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Lakeside
10-01-14, 06:16
Will be in HKG the coming weekend. Are the protest having a big impact on the Wanchai nightlife? Are there any girls in NM and HKG cafe or are these places dead because of the road blockages and transportation problems? Hope the situation will improve and not spoiling the coming weekend!

Little Jared
10-01-14, 14:53
As far as I know, there is a kind of strange atmosphere at Wanchai right now. The bar area around Lockhart St. Is living its life as usual, only a few hundreds metres away from the protesters.

Boarer
10-01-14, 15:35
Are the protest having a big impact on the Wanchai nightlife? Are there any girls in NM and HKG cafe or are these places dead because of the road blockages and transportation problems? Hope the situation will improve and not spoiling the coming weekend!


Are the current problems having an affect in the Wan Chai area?The endurance and staying power of the worlds oldest profession has no equal. Its resilience has been carried on the backs (or earned on the backs) of many SYTs over several millennia.

NM and Insidders were packed. First time inside Insiders and actually like the smoke free environment. Mate abandoned me soon after entering Insiders so did not check out other venues as I had auditions to do.

Assume there will be great deals on hotels close to the action. Many SYT could use a sanctuary to freshen up!

Taxis are a problem but MTR is running so use it to get out of the mess. The streets are pretty empty because everyone is staying away and many roads are blocked. No problem if you are within walking distance.

Boarer
10-01-14, 15:37
If anyone knows a Indo regular in Makati calling herself Lily or Jessica please send me a pm. A mate brought himself in trouble. Hopeless in love. She tells him works as domestic helper only coming there for drinks every now and them. The usual. He describes her as very small girl curled hair pouted lips. Sounds a bit older. Just saw a photo wearing a blue dress, sorry.Think someone has success recently on this board. Picture would help.

JackTheLad2
10-01-14, 15:53
The streets are pretty empty because everyone is staying away and many roads are blocked. No problem if you are within walking distance.Good news!

My hotel is only 10 minutes walk away from the action. Just need to make sure my companion does not have high heels on for the walk home. Don't want to tire her out.
Alternatively, room service could be on the cards.

Chantik
10-01-14, 19:11
I have been away for the last week and a bit on a shopping expedition. I guess things are ok because I have a busy weekend planned.

Boarer
10-01-14, 21:42
NM and Insidders were packed.Sorry. Not NM but NIII and Insidders were packed. Amazonia was dead as I walked by. So tired I cannot see and type straight.


Good news!

My hotel is only 10 minutes walk away from the action. Just need to make sure my companion does not have high heels on for the walk home. Don't want to tire her out.
Alternatively, room service could be on the cards.Many ladies are not adverse to taking their heels off and walking barefoot. I for one would never recommend it. Had escorted many barefoot ladies down Lockhart Road.


I have been away for the last week and a bit on a shopping expedition. I guess things are ok because I have a busy weekend planned.You should spearhead a make love not war campaign.

NOZ2215
10-02-14, 01:26
Think someone has success recently on this board. Picture would help.I think Boarer may have been referring to me with regards to finding a young lady in HK, Yes I was successful and things are continuing to work out well for both of us, with regard to tracking someone down its very difficult unless you on have someone on the ground putting in the leg work.

If they live in HK and regularly go to the same place it maybe a little easier, in my case the lady had returned home, so the help of a friend who did kept on going back and asking after her paid dividends for me, but it took 3 or 4 visits and buying plenty of shots before HE gained the confidence of a few girls who also jumped on the case ha ha ha.

I'll also be back in HK soon with my lovely girl in tow, however we won't be hitting any of the bars, no need to cover old ground.

So happy hunting to all.

Indy Hundred
10-03-14, 06:44
First of, I think the women in HK are seriously beautiful. They have that exotic eastern look but the way they dress and the way they walk with that confidence is so beautiful.

On a slightly different topic, I am a little surprised at how few comments there are about the girls at the foot rub massage parlous and SW on Temple Street. I was on Shanghai Street in Kowloon and I was impressed with how good looking some of the foot rub girls were. Especially the ones on the street level handing out pamphlets. 6, 7's, and 8's. No super knockouts but still better than average. And wearing such low amazing wonder bras. So, a question, are my standards different than others here? I would appreciate a calibration from one of you.

Jimthomas
10-04-14, 19:21
I had a similar experience to a previous post where I went to K-Pressure around noon but they were closed. I think the whole building was out of electricity though. I couldn't get Cialis next door because the pharmacy was closed as well. BTW, if anyone knows the cheapest place to get Cialis let me know. I thought 500 for 4 tabs was expensive at K-Pressure, but places in Wan Chai wanted 900+!! With no luck in Jordan, I jumped back on the train and headed up to MongKok.

At Dundas, I was shown 4 girls. They were all young but 3 out of 4 were not smiling or looking at me, so I took the 4th one who was probably the least my type but she was smiling. Paid the usual 500 for girl and room. Went upstairs and headed for the shower. Tried my best at conversation but she didn't speak English. She was from Shenzhen so we could at least speak a little in Mandarin. She was giggly and playful the whole time. Eventually moved to the bed. She spent a lot of time on BJ which was fine. No DFK which was disappointing. Eventually moved to FS and hit it in multiple positions until popped. Afterwards we had about 15 minutes to cuddle and nap. Overall I had a good time.

Afterwards I headed back to Wan Chai looking for Cialis. Ended up getting some generic Viagra for 380 which worked well for my marathon session that night with a lady friend from Wan Chai.

BeijingCbc
10-07-14, 11:45
Hey guys, just copy and pasting my report from the 141 forum. I'm sure most members here also frequent that one but just in case, sharing the report here as well.

Date & Time of Session: Tuesday Oct 7 - 15:00.

Location: Coronet Court, North Point.

Name: Ally or Allie (Link: No Link.

Nationality & Language: Polish. English (Barely).

Age: Early to mid 20's.

Face: 4/5 Easy on the eyes, long light brown hair with reddish highlights on the ends.

Body: 4/5 slim, be cup, around 5"5 without heels.

Skill: 3/5 average skill, nothing to write home about but got the job done.

Service: 2/5 cold and mechanical but could be because of trouble communicating due to her lack of English.

GFE: 1/5

Price & Session Length: 800.

Repeat: No.

After reading a report on here about "Tasha" the Ukrainian at Coronet Ct. In North Point, decided to go check it out for myself.

I'm working up in the Mainland these days so been a while since I've had a punt here in HK and first report ever on this forum. But since I'm here for a few more days, hope I'll be able to share more reports before I go.

Back to the business at hand. Arrived at Coronet Ct. Around 1:30 pm, up the stairs and packed with at least 5 or 6 Chinese punters ringing on random doors. Just to the right of the stairs, you'll see a large sign on the door reading "Ukrainian 800" and one beside it reading "Poland 800". Rang on the Ukrainian door, no answer, rang on the Poland door, no answer. Figured they were out since there were no welcome signs either. Anyway, did a lap around the floor and caught glimpses of the Chinese girls opening up for the 5 or 6 Chinese punters. Nothing caught my eye.

Went back outside, had some lunch at a nearby Vietnamese pho place and continued down the street to the Starbucks across from the Fortress Hill MTR. Enjoyed a coffee while catching up on work emails, lots of cuties coming in and out including a tall blonde Eastern European girl. I wondered to myself if she may be Ms. Ukrainian or Ms. Poland since she left walking in the direction of Coronet Ct.

Now it's about 3 pm and started my way back. Back up the stairs I went, empty this time and still no welcome sign on the "Ukrainian" door. But now there was a welcome sign on the "Poland" door. Rang the bell and out came a pretty brunette with light red highlights. She was dressed in a see through nightie and invited me in.

Once inside, I asked if she spoke English and she said in a heavy accent yes. Tried to strike up some small talk while undressing but she really couldn't understand what I was saying. She undressed too and we proceeded into the shower where she washed me squeaky clean. Again tried to talk with her but was met with a puzzled looked and silence which make it a bit awkward. From what I could get from her, she said her name is Ally or Allie, and she's been in HK for a week.

With the shower finished, moved to the bed where she began the usual cat bath, nipple sucking with occasional pecks to the neck and ear. While she was on top, got to play with her be cups and got her nipples ripe and hard. After that, on goes the wrapper for a CBJ, pretty regular technique and nothing to write home about. The CBJ lasted 5 minutes or so, and then she got on top for some CG, good up / down and grinding front to back action. Changed to doggie for a while but flipped her over to finish in mish looking at her pretty face. Cleaned up in the shower again and still very little conversation. After drying off, she invited me to stay for a cigarette which I thought was strange since the communication was poor and we ended up smoking in near silence. Entire session was just about 30 minutes. Didn't try to kiss her or ask for BBBJ since she seemed a bit cold from the beginning but maybe other guys can get more of a GFE out of her. Wanted to ask her for some photos to post as well but from the mechanical session and poor communication, didn't even try to ask.

This girl is definitely easy on the eyes, pretty face, above average body, perky be cups and a shaved kitty. But the service was too mechanical and cold so don't think I will be repeating. Better bang for your buck elsewhere for 800. Maybe if communication was better, it would have been a better session. Think I'll just stick with locals / Chinese who I can speak with in Cantonese or Mandarin (I'm an ABC but can speak fluent Cantonese and working in the Mainland, I can communicate efficiently in Mandarin also).

Well, that's my first report on this forum. I posted a few reports about K-Pressure and 37 Dundas on another forum a few years back when I was last in HK, so will probably check those places out again soon and report back here.

Enjoy!

Jopj1
10-09-14, 11:58
Not sure it s been reported here but the KTV / bordello at the intersection of Butt Street / shanghai street has recently moved.

Now located right out of Yaumatei subway station exit see.

You go out and look up and you will find it.

Prices are still the same 450 hkd for 45 minutes.

Girls are the same as wellspring those who have not been there, it offers a good alternative to Dundas and kpressure.

Happy hunting!

J.

Jimthomas
10-10-14, 08:30
I might be in Hong Kong for Halloween. Any suggestions on interesting events? I'm thinking LKF if the coworkers come. WanChai if they don't. Or maybe wander TST.

Chantik
10-10-14, 15:49
You will need luck fitting into LKF. Wanchai is a better option.

Boarer
10-11-14, 17:16
You will need luck fitting into LKF. Wanchai is a better option.Yeah. Gets very crowded. Was crowded today.
Now it's about 3 pm and started my way back. Back up the stairs I went, empty this time and still no welcome sign on the "Ukrainian" door. But now there was a welcome sign on the "Poland" door.Some of the girls can be quite stunning and cruise LKF. I need to check out the place you mentioned.

Bonzo1
10-14-14, 11:01
Recommendations? Favorites?

Chantik
10-14-14, 14:11
You have Villa Victoria, Beverley Hotel, Ming Court, Excellent park and the hotel above Neptune 3.

Boarer
10-14-14, 20:02
Was watching the Sunday news about the current fights on HK streets. Lo and behold, a tall young western guys crosses a street in the background, holding hands with a SYT half his size.

OrionWyn
10-16-14, 14:24
Flying in and have 22 HR layover, 10 to 15 hrs to play, where can I get a quickie?

Kar2692
10-16-14, 18:26
I am travelling to Hong Kong & China from 9 days from 29th. Will be in hk for the weekend before I move to China Shenzhen for 3 days. I am attending an exhibition at Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre. I have to book a hotel still, Tickets done. Basically I am in HK from 29th to 2nd any help on girls in call to hotel or massage parlors or any kind of help to places seniors recommend will be gr8 ly appreciated. Please Pm me for the same.

Thanks

Ebauche
10-17-14, 00:57
Flying in and have 22 HR layover, 10 to 15 hrs to play, where can I get a quickie?Mongkok, K-pressure or 141's. Read the forum. This isn't India.

Boarer
10-17-14, 03:43
Will be in hk for the weekend before I move to China shenzen for 3 days.


Flying in and have 22 HR layover, 10 to 15 hrs to play, where can I get a quickie?RTFF.

10/15 hrs is not a quickie. Question is whether you want one or several. If you do not want a hotel, you can check your luggage in and travel light and sleep in ST hotels. Problem is security with your travel documents. Look at the post below. IMHO, I would spend on a cheap hotel to keep the luggage and to get some good sleep; without worrying about whether the person next to you is a psycho.

Kar2692. If I were you, I would base out of a Wanchai hotel and use the subway to avoid the current unrest. Then you can unwind close to your hotel and not have to worry about transport, assuming you are ambulatory. Game is plenty and easy around the area.

There are hotels attached to the couple convention centers but they are $$$$. Wanchai has cheaper options; look 2 post down.

Vompat
10-17-14, 08:18
Dear fellow mongerers,

Time for a yearly HK / Macau trip is coming in few weeks time.

Anyone knows if Mira Moon hotel if girl friendly?

My report will follow if I find something good.

Thanks in advance.

V

Mighty Spearsman
10-17-14, 13:58
Flying in and have 22 HR layover, 10 to 15 hrs to play, where can I get a quickie?Try 37 Dundas Street (walk up one flight from the street) or else K-Pressure or the other options mentioned by Ebauche below. I had a short layover in HK several years ago and was able to get into town, have a nice session at 37 Dundas, then get back to the airport in time to take my next flight with no problems, thanks to the Airport Express,

Just curious. Only one post? Haven't you ever mongered at the place that you're flying into Hong Kong from, or at the place you're flying to? Why haven't you posted about your experiences before now? Or are you a virgin, planning to pop your cherry here in HK?

At the very least, you should post a decent field report about your Hong Kong experiences. And Boarer is correct, 10 to 15 hours is not a quickie. RTFF to discover your many options!

JackTheLad2
10-17-14, 14:08
Was watching the Sunday news about the current fights on HK streets. Lo and behold, a tall young western guys crosses a street in the background, holding hands with a SYT half his size.LOL.

Hope his wife / partner / GF was not watching the news as well!

Sammon
10-17-14, 14:17
I am travelling to Hong Kong & China from 9 days from 29th. Will be in hk for the weekend before I move to China shenzen for 3 days. I am attending an exhibition at Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre. I have to book a hotel still, Tickets done. Basically I am in HK from 29th to 2nd any help on girls in call to hotel or massage parlors or anykind of help to places seniors recommend will be gr8 ly appreciated. Please Pm me for the same.

Thanks.My suggestion is wait till you get to Shenzhen. Plenty of nice looking girls half the price there. HK is tough. You can hang around wanchai bars and hope to get lucky with some domestics. Domestic workers from other countries give you a better service. But most of them are older, fatter.

There are plenty of hotels for any price structure. Transportation is easy with subways.

Rockabilly77
10-18-14, 05:20
I will be in HK on 30th and usually stay at the Metropark Wan Chai.

We the protests happening currently, can anyone give me a suggestion of where to stay and if I should avoid Wan Chai?

I will be needing to get to and from the convention and exhibition centre all week and some bar / clubs at night.

Any help would be great.

JackTheLad2
10-19-14, 15:34
We the protests happening currently, can anyone give me a suggestion of where to stay and if I should avoid Wan Chai?
Surely you don't need to avoid Wan Chai?

My own visit is fast approaching and I'm looking forward to visiting the usual haunts. Can someone with local knowledge / experiences confirm all is well and there is no problem? Otherwise "room service" will be on the cards.

Ramn HK
10-19-14, 18:11
Your hotel is okay. The protests are happening by the police station on Arsenal Street which is the next block west (ie heading towards Central) after Fenwick street on Lockhart Road. Its also on Gloucester Road too.

Where you are at is safe, no worries and you can comfortably use the overhead bridge over O'Brien road to go to the Convention Centre.

Have fun, do business, stay safe and enjoy!


I will be in HK on 30th and usually stay at the Metropark Wan Chai.

We the protests happening currently, can anyone give me a suggestion of where to stay and if I should avoid Wan Chai?

I will be needing to get to and from the convention and exhibition centre all week and some bar / clubs at night.

Any help would be great.

Ramn HK
10-19-14, 18:14
Yes all is well. Stay away from Arsenal street where the police station is and Gloucester Road.

If you do use your special "room service", please allow extra time for your masseuse to arrive.

Looking forward with anticipation to your well written reports.


Surely you don't need to avoid Wan Chai?

My own visit is fast approaching and I'm looking forward to visiting the usual haunts. Can someone with local knowledge / experiences confirm all is well and there is no problem? Otherwise "room service" will be on the cards.

JackTheLad2
10-19-14, 20:33
Yes all is well. Stay away from Arsenal street where the police station is and Gloucester Road.

If you do use your special "room service", please allow extra time for your masseuse to arrive.

Looking forward with anticipation to your well written reports.Many thanks. Much appreciated.

Rockabilly77
10-19-14, 22:44
Your hotel is okay. The protests are happening by the police station on Arsenal Street which is the next block west (ie heading towards Central) after Fenwick street on Lockhart Road. Its also on Gloucester Road too.

Where you are at is safe, no worries and you can comfortably use the overhead bridge over O'Brien road to go to the Convention Centre.

Have fun, do business, stay safe and enjoy!Thank you so much for the heads up.

I will probably book that hotel then.

Any other suggestions closer the convention centre would be helpful also.

Erasmus B Dragin
10-20-14, 03:10
I'm sure senior members here are quite familiar with this area but thought I'd write this for the benefit of tourist and visitors who may be less acquainted with the HK scene. Though this is my first post on the HK board, I'e been an infrequent visitor for years. I've tried Wanchai bars, 141 girls and other options, but none have come close to the balance of quality of service and attractiveness to Kowloon SWs and walk ups, IMHO. This post will cover SWs around the Temple St night market area. Even better are the Kowloon walk ups, but I'll save that for another post.

Last week I was in HK for a few days and stayed on the Kowloon side (to the chagrin of colleagues). I strolled the Temple St night market area a few times and found things little changed since my first visit yrs ago: abundant supply of older, "experienced" providers and a few younger &/ or more attractive ones. 90% are mainlanders but I also met groups of Thai's on 2 occassions (young and pretty), 2 Pinays and a few africans. One of the Pinays was young, slim and quite attractive, while the Africans were all overweight and, well, past their prime.

The active zone is bordered by Jordan (south), Kansu (north), Woosung (east) and Shanghai (west) Sts. It measures 360 M (N to S) by 100 M (E to W) so is easily covered on foot. Shanghai St has both walk up MPs (girls handing out flyers for massage) and street walkers, all mainlanders. It's rare to find one younger than 30, but they can be found, and some of the 30 somethings still look OK to me (esp at this price point). Prices are undoubtedly cheaper for the veterans, but the most attractive girls ask 4-500 for ST.

I had a go with a truly gorgeous 30 yr old from Wuhan who was standing in a doorway on the western side of Shanghai St. Slim and busty, I could have easily believed she was in her mid-twenties. Her plunging neckline displayed a fantastic set of the cups which, much to my relief, did not succumb completely to gravity once the kilt was off. She had a child back home but had given birth via see-section, which meant that the plumbing was still firm & tight. Her tummy was flat and the waistline was really skinny. Service was complete and attentive; she undressed me, lots of oral (I had just bathed) and as many positions as I wanted. The fly in the ointment was that, like most of these places in the Temple St area, there was no shower. Yes, I thought about that while we were in 69, but I simply couldn't help myself. I still hold fond memories of her squatting over me, twin ICBMs in my face while she bounced up and down. I asked for her number but it was her last night in HK, having been there for 4 weeks. Shower or not, good value at 500 HKD.

Ladies are available at all hours in the area, though the best quality and quantity tend to be found in the evening. All are in HK on tourist visas and some really are amateurs. If you are staying in a hotel nearby they'll accompany you to your room. Otherwise they all have a place nearby. 2 yrs ago I found one I really liked and got her number, after which she came to my hotel every evening. They tend to disappear when police stroll the area, though the police usually just tell them to move on and not to loiter. On my last trip to HK in the spring I saw a couple of pimps marketing 4 young Thai girls on Ning Po as I passed by on my way to the 7-11. When I returned minutes later police had the pimps in hand cuffs and let the girls go.

Ikksman
10-20-14, 04:29
I'm sure senior members here are quite familiar with this area but thought I'd write this for the benefit of tourist and visitors who may be less acquainted with the HK scene. Though this is my first post on the HK board, I'e been an infrequent visitor for years. I've tried Wanchai bars, 141 girls and other options, but none have come close to the balance of quality of service and attractiveness to Kowloon SWs and walk ups, IMHO. This post will cover SWs around the Temple St night market area. Even better are the Kowloon walk ups, but I'll save that for another post. {S N I P} Congratulations on an excellent report of the Temple St area!

I am guessing that you can speak a little Mandarin. As most mainland girls don't speak any English, and I think come from areas in China where there are few western punters, it can be a little difficult for tourists to negotiate price and services (without any knowledge of Mandarin). Sign language is of course the answer here and a good tip is for tourists to learn the hand signs for cardinal numbers 1 thru 10.

Ikks.

P.S. My recent experience of the Temple St market (post 2014 yanda and mainly during the daytime) is that there are early 20's Chinese girls if you look around. Not all are 30 something girls.

Ramn HK
10-20-14, 06:55
Here are some news websites to get up to date information on the Occupy Central movement so that you can plan your stay and movements accordingly.

1) South China Morning Post - http://www.scmp.com/frontpage/hk . Note this is a paid subscription site so don't know how much information you can get.

2) The Standard - http://www.thestandard.com.hk/ . Note this newspaper is free, so no subscription needed.

For a map of the hotspots on Occupy Central, you may refer to - http://www.scmp.com/infographics/article/1608683/timelapses-major-protest-sites-hong-kong . If this does not work, you can refer to the Transport website of the HK Government.

At: http://www.gov.hk/en/theme/psi/datasets/trafficsnapshot.htm.

Have fun and stay safe.

Fast Eddie 48
10-20-14, 11:09
Here are some news websites to get up to date information on the Occupy Central movement so that you can plan your stay and movements accordingly.

1) South China Morning Post - http://www.scmp.com/frontpage/hk . Note this is a paid subscription site so don't know how much information you can get.

2) The Standard - http://www.thestandard.com.hk/ . Note this newspaper is free, so no subscription needed.

For a map of the hotspots on Occupy Central, you may refer to - http://www.scmp.com/infographics/article/1608683/timelapses-major-protest-sites-hong-kong . If this does not work, you can refer to the Transport website of the HK Government.

At: http://www.gov.hk/en/theme/psi/datasets/trafficsnapshot.htm.

Have fun and stay safe.To Ramn Hk.

I was at the Bangkok shut down back in FEB this yr now Hong Kong there are only a few trouble spot if you stay away from it you will be ok, I going back next week for the Mega show if they don't closed the airport or the subway we be ok.

Fast eddie 48.

Chantik
10-20-14, 16:23
Problem is mis-reporting by the media. I was in Thailand at the beginning of the occupy movement and it was number one or 2 story on Al Jazeera / BBC World / Fox News and CNN. Watching the reports made you think that HK was out of control. The news services have unfairly given wrong information about HK. Yes it is an inconvenience in certain parts of HK but its nowhere out of control. Thumbs down to the media.

Ebauche
10-21-14, 00:05
Last week I was in HK for a few days and stayed on the Kowloon side (to the chagrin of colleagues).I always stay Kowloon side specifically because it is presents a target rich environment, in which it is rather easy to avoid the prying and sensitive eyes of nosey colleagues.

Weben
10-21-14, 06:25
I used stay at hotels near Pacific Place, like the JW, before I got an apartment in Causeway Bay. From the JW, you can walk underground to the Admiralty metro stop, and just walk to the convention center for that matter. Not much further than Wan Chai and frankly probably more comfortable, in my opinion. The metro seems a little more crowded these days, so I tend to walk more, but not as bad as it was a week ago.


I will be in HK on 30th and usually stay at the Metropark Wan Chai.

We the protests happening currently, can anyone give me a suggestion of where to stay and if I should avoid Wan Chai?

I will be needing to get to and from the convention and exhibition centre all week and some bar / clubs at night.

Any help would be great.

Rockabilly77
10-21-14, 08:20
Congratulations on an excellent report of the Temple St area!

I am guessing that you can speak a little Mandarin. As most mainland girls don't speak any English, and I think come from areas in China where there are few western punters, it can be a little difficult for tourists to negotiate price and services (without any knowledge of Mandarin). Sign language is of course the answer here and a good tip is for tourists to learn the hand signs for cardinal numbers 1 thru 10.

Ikks

P.S. My recent experience of the Temple St market (post 2014 yanda and mainly during the daytime) is that there are early 20's Chinese girls if you look around. Not all are 30 something girls.Signs are very handy to know when in a bar on the mainland.

I always seem to forget to study prior to going and up crawling out of the bar very quickly.

Saving this to my phone to practice up.

Thanks

Rockabilly77
10-21-14, 08:27
Problem is mis-reporting by the media. I was in Thailand at the beginning of the occupy movement and it was number one or 2 story on Al Jazeera / BBC World / Fox News and CNN. Watching the reports made you think that HK was out of control. The news services have unfairly given wrong information about HK. Yes it is an inconvenience in certain parts of HK but its nowhere out of control. Thumbs down to the media.Agreed, I have been in Thailand during unrest and it was no problem to navigate around and I felt perfectly safe by avoiding the hot spots.

Much easier to deal with then songkran.

I booked the Regal Iclub.

Ikksman
10-22-14, 12:23
Signs are very handy to know when in a bar on the mainland.

I always seem to forget to study prior to going and up crawling out of the bar very quickly.

Saving this to my phone to practice up.

ThanksDon't forget that different hand signs are used in various parts of China. In particular, Hong Kong and Guangdong (the Cantonese areas) use different hand signs for 7 & 8 from Northern areas of China.

Ikks.

Boarer
10-23-14, 04:34
Hope his wife / partner / GF was not watching the news as well!One can never be certain to not get captured on camera when surrounded by cameras. Worse yet if one takes a selfie in the wrong situation. Kenny G for example.

Agreed, I have been in Thailand during unrest and it was no problem to navigate around and I felt perfectly safe by avoiding the hot spots.Several post were about the same situation. Foreign countries are not the object of the protest so foreigners are safe as they are not the focus of the protesters. However, they might be the focus of big brother.

As a general rule, if one is a target, take precautions. If one is not a target, the only precaution is just stay out of the line of fire. In other words, don't go looking at the trouble spots. FWIW, traffic is actually better as more people are opting for public transport. A problem spot might add 10 to 30 minutes to a journey. In other countries, a traffic jam can add an hour to 3 hours to a journey. Also, LKF and area have been packed.

The situation is fluid, so keep an eye on the news. Get the English language Radio III app to get news updates.

Pablo1955
10-23-14, 21:30
My 3 friends and I went there recently on a Sunday afternoon about 5 pm. We were immediately hanging out with 4 cute, flirty Filipinas, average age of 30+/ We all danced and partied with them for about 2 hours. The girls were draped over us, and we could grind and hump them easily while dancing. They enjoyed themselves and we were in heaven. The girls had such great attitudes. We did buy them drinks which seemed much higher priced than our own beverages. We wondered what the deal was with the girls and the bar. Are they getting a kickback or credit? It really didn't matter other than we were curious on their deal.

We did wonder how we could score with them back to the flat we rented through AirBNB in Central. My buddies split but I stayed in hopes of bedding my 8/10 cutie. However, I could not get her to go. She sounded and acted very sincere in explaining that she had to be home by 8 pm, otherwise, she risked getting in trouble with her employer. There was no mention of money by her, and I don't know that it would have made a difference. She seemed genuinely sad that the time did not permit for strapping it on.

Questions:

What do those with experience know about the girls at Players? Are there some who charge and others who don't? If so, what is the breakdown percentage wise?

Any thoughts on how much the fare is?

Also, what is their deal with the bar in terms of drinks, etc?

Where else would you recommend beside Players?

Ikksman
10-24-14, 00:02
{S N I P} Foreign countries are not the object of the protest so foreigners are safe as they are not the focus of the protesters. However, they might be the focus of big brother. {S N I P} I don't think that there is much to worry about, but if you are concerned, then do not use Wechat (Weixin) or Firechat. They are closely monitored. Although Firechat does not use a server per se, it is easy for others to 'join' the mesh network.

Line and Kakaotalk are OK as their servers are secure in Korea. Not sure about WhatsApp.

Ikks.

Mighty Spearsman
10-24-14, 01:42
My 3 friends and I went there recently on a Sunday afternoon about 5 pm. We were immediately hanging out with 4 cute, flirty Filipinas, average age of 30+/ We all danced and partied with them for about 2 hours. The girls were draped over us, and we could grind and hump them easily while dancing. They enjoyed themselves and we were in heaven. The girls had such great attitudes. We did buy them drinks which seemed much higher priced than our own beverages. We wondered what the deal was with the girls and the bar. Are they getting a kickback or credit? It really didn't matter other than we were curious on their deal.

We did wonder how we could score with them back to the flat we rented through AirBNB in Central. My buddies split but I stayed in hopes of bedding my 8/10 cutie. However, I could not get her to go. She sounded and acted very sincere in explaining that she had to be home by 8 pm, otherwise, she risked getting in trouble with her employer. There was no mention of money by her, and I don't know that it would have made a difference. She seemed genuinely sad that the time did not permit for strapping it on.

Questions:

What do those with experience know about the girls at Players? Are there some who charge and others who don't? If so, what is the breakdown percentage wise?

Any thoughts on how much the fare is?

Also, what is their deal with the bar in terms of drinks, etc?

Where else would you recommend beside Players?If you had RTFF'd before your visit, you would have quickly learned that the Filipina girl was not lying when she said that she had to be home by 8 pm, since it was Sunday. It's too bad that you didn't run into that young lady earlier in the day; if you had made your move at 5:30 or 6, she probably would have gone back to your room for a quick shag before going home before the 8 pm curfew time. And, depending on the girl, she may have charged very little or even done it for free, as long as she can get home on time. These domestic helpers work hard 6 days a week and Sunday is their only chance to have some fun.

You also would have learned about the higher-priced "lady drinks" also that in most cases those girls are drinking plain iced tea, with no alcohol at all in it. That racket can be found in other cities as well as Hong Kong; I've experienced it in places as diverse as Tunis, Tunisia and Innsbruck, Austria.

Boarer
10-24-14, 03:26
Anyone familiar with Players bar on Lockhard Rd in Wanchai? I am not but you might try RTFF. Been several posts. But its sounds like you guys were big swinging dixxks and were a big hit the ladies!
FirechatRead the CNN and SCMP articles on the methods of communications used when traffic is blocked / censored.

Ikksman
10-24-14, 05:19
{S N I P} Read the CNN and SCMP articles on the methods of communications used when traffic is blocked / censored.I am unsure as to which SCMP article you refer (I do subscribe to SCMP).

HK security and China PSB personnel were and still are listening to all Firechat messages internal to the Occupy Central movement. Firechat is a very primitive mesh network that does not even have private messaging functionality. The OC people were very foolish to concentrate on using this app. They may as well have just sent every message directly to the HK and PRC security organisations. And yes, I know that people were sending disinformation messages, some of it likely to be coming from local security personnel.

Ikks.

Ray Black
10-24-14, 06:02
Questions:

Take a stroll around the streets in Wanchai, e. G. Near rail station in the early evening is my favourite, and watch for the eyes of those approaching. Smile, say goodday, and stop. If they are available, the will stop and chat. Suggest going to a love hotel or to your hotel. Works every time, and saves a lot of time and heaps of dollars on drinks, fees etc.

Ray.

Sky Ryder
10-24-14, 10:30
Having written a couple of items on the "FF", I hope the brethern will not mind if I ask a seemingly silly question. I have the better part of an afternoon or evening in the "Fragrant Harbour" city next week. I am trying to find a moderate to higher end Spa or massage location where I can enjoy a relaxing oil massage in a nice setting (private room, shower, and a real door) with the high probability of at least a happpy ending.

All input is appreciated, and if you prefer to reply via PM I will respect your privacy.

TIA.

Sky.

Boarer
10-25-14, 03:25
Take a stroll around the streets in Wanchai, e. G. Near rail station in the early evening is my favourite,Any surprises? Word is that there are some pre / post operation WG(?) in that area.
I am unsure as to which SCMP article you refer (I do subscribe to SCMP).Then I would suggest Google. Also, you might want to look up a recent of arrest of a protester, aka Captain America. LOL.

Ikksman
10-25-14, 07:52
Then I would suggest Google. Also, you might want to look up a recent of arrest of a protester, aka Captain America. LOL.No need to be so condescending! I have read a number of articles, and in fact one of the SCMP articles is 90% media bulls**t.

Perhaps you could be helpful instead of being condescending.

And I do know about the security and censorship situation in HK and PRC WITHOUT having to read plagiarised crappy media reports.

Ikks.

No need to expose fools, they expose themselves

Erasmus B Dragin
10-25-14, 08:36
Congratulations on an excellent report of the Temple St area!

I am guessing that you can speak a little Mandarin. As most mainland girls don't speak any English, and I think come from areas in China where there are few western punters, it can be a little difficult for tourists to negotiate price and services (without any knowledge of Mandarin). Sign language is of course the answer here and a good tip is for tourists to learn the hand signs for cardinal numbers 1 thru 10.

Ikks.

P.S. My recent experience of the Temple St market (post 2014 yanda and mainly during the daytime) is that there are early 20's Chinese girls if you look around. Not all are 30 something girls.Correct, Ikksman, I do indeed speak Mandarin. I should have mentioned this. Even so, for those who speak little to no Chinese, I think most of the girls in that zone would make an effort to communicate and the dialogue is pretty simple. After all, you won't be discussing particle physics. When they see me coming most of the girls say "massaggee? So most of them are not averse to dealing with westerners. The exceptions are the young, petite ones. I have been turned down on a couple of occassions by young cuties in that area, both of whom told me I was "too big", but this happens all over China to us westerners from time to time.

As I mentioned in the post, perhaps 90% are 30 ish and beyond. Amongst the remaining 10%, though, can be found some as young as 19-20. For younger, more attractive girls, in my experience, the walk-ups a bit further north are a surer bet.

Chantik
10-25-14, 14:24
The more posts that I read and the greater my experience, convinces me that the average of working ladies in Hong Kong is around 30, if not higher.

Ikksman
10-26-14, 02:10
The more posts that I read and the greater my experience, convinces me that the average of working ladies in Hong Kong is around 30, if not higher.I wonder why there are so few younger PRC WGs in Hong Kong (versus the predominance of over 30's).

In Chang Ping even the mamasans were likely to be under 30. And following the 2014 CNY yanda, a continual flow into HK of girls, trained to CP ISO standard, would have boosted the HK economy. And all those thousands of Hongkongese, who previously frequented CP, would instead spend their hard earned dollars locally. Just a thought (mostly tongue in cheek)!

Ikks.

Chantik
10-26-14, 11:20
I wonder why there are so few younger PRC WGs in Hong Kong (versus the predominance of over 30's).

In Chang Ping even the mamasans were likely to be under 30. And following the 2014 CNY yanda, a continual flow into HK of girls, trained to CP ISO standard, would have boosted the HK economy. And all those thousands of Hongkongese, who previously frequented CP, would instead spend their hard earned dollars locally. Just a thought (mostly tongue in cheek)!

Ikks.Well it can be tricky for mainlanders to get a visa. That probably answers your question. And its a world-wide trend for escorts to be older. Certain that on average more are over 30 than under 30. Older escorts are more experienced and skilled and will often give a better service.

Ikksman
10-26-14, 13:53
Well it can be tricky for mainlanders to get a visa. That probably answers your question.I wondered about that. But I could not reason why older PRC girls could get visas, and only a few younger girls could. I think there may be other answers.

There are often 30+ girls in the Shenzhen escort and some massage places. Many of these services are controlled by Triad / Black Society organisations. Maybe they use their 'influence' to get visas for their girls.


And its a world-wide trend for escorts to be older. Certain that on average more are over 30 than under 30. Older escorts are more experienced and skilled and will often give a better service.The young girls trained to CP's "ISO standards" quickly became quite expert, but did not necessarily provide a better GFE experience.

Ikks.

Goatboy55
10-26-14, 14:33
My 3 friends and I went there recently on a Sunday afternoon about 5 pm. We were immediately hanging out with 4 cute, flirty Filipinas, average age of 30+/ We all danced and partied with them for about 2 hours. The girls were draped over us, and we could grind and hump them easily while dancing. They enjoyed themselves and we were in heaven. The girls had such great attitudes. We did buy them drinks which seemed much higher priced than our own beverages. We wondered what the deal was with the girls and the bar. Are they getting a kickback or credit? It really didn't matter other than we were curious on their deal.

We did wonder how we could score with them back to the flat we rented through AirBNB in Central. My buddies split but I stayed in hopes of bedding my 8/10 cutie. However, I could not get her to go. She sounded and acted very sincere in explaining that she had to be home by 8 pm, otherwise, she risked getting in trouble with her employer. There was no mention of money by her, and I don't know that it would have made a difference. She seemed genuinely sad that the time did not permit for strapping it on.

Questions:

What do those with experience know about the girls at Players? Are there some who charge and others who don't? If so, what is the breakdown percentage wise?

Any thoughts on how much the fare is?

Also, what is their deal with the bar in terms of drinks, etc?

Where else would you recommend beside Players?I've never been to players but most of the bars around that area there operate a similar MO.

Most DHs live in and even on their sundays off most have a 'curfew' to be back at their employer residence by 8 or 9 pm.

Because these girls only make $4000 HK a month, which most gets sent home, the bars generally offer a 'token' scheme where drinks bought for girls will usually be double the price of the normal drink and the girls take home HK25 per drink or something like that. Good for the bar, good for the girl. They normally ask for a white russian or something which is mainly milk, so they don't end up getting too smashed before they get home. How do you score with these chicks? Get their numbers and arrange to meet them earlier on their day off would be my advice. A lot are bored out of their minds, sex-starved and will go for free, although a little taxi fare is always appreciated.

After curfew time the 'normal' girls disappear and the pros move in. They will definitely expect to be paid!!

Boarer
10-26-14, 18:24
No need to be so condescending! I have read a number of articles, and in fact one of the SCMP articles is 90% media bulls**t.

Perhaps you could be helpful instead of being condescending.

And I do know about the security and censorship situation in HK and PRC WITHOUT having to read plagiarised crappy media reports.

Ikks.

No need to expose fools, they expose themselvesAgreed, since you consider yourself a big tool, do not use Google.


The more posts that I read and the greater my experience, convinces me that the average of working ladies in Hong Kong is around 30, if not higher.There was a post about a punter being shocked that a WG he was banging was not in her twenties but the same age as his mother. In general, Asian women tend to age more gracefully and do not show their age as much (please correct me if I am wrong) as women from other countries. I am always surprised at how some punter still go with really rough looking WGs.


I've never been to players but most of the bars around that area there operate a similar MO.IMHO, the drink scam, to some degree, is worldwide.

Daddy San
10-27-14, 20:00
Well it can be tricky for mainlanders to get a visa. That probably answers your question. And its a world-wide trend for escorts to be older. Certain that on average more are over 30 than under 30. Older escorts are more experienced and skilled and will often give a better service.Hear hear!

And even though Chantik is only 28 - she is the epitome of fantastic service already.

Chantik
10-28-14, 14:50
Hear hear!

And even though Chantik is only 28 - she is the epitome of fantastic service already.What!

I am 99 !

Daddy San
10-30-14, 10:30
What!

I am 99 !Hard to believe.

Best grand-grannyfuck ever.

DukeOfHazzard
10-30-14, 10:52
Hi guys,

I have been to Hong Kong many times and have always had to resolve to the internet to find WG or massage girls. As I was never in Hong Kong for more than 1-2 days at a time for meetings I didn't really have time to be adventurous and seek out places. I've had some fairly good experiences there but as you all know with the internet it most often more a miss than a hit.

A couple of months ago I was there again and one of my friends told me that I absolutely had to check out Escape Bar in Wanchai. I landed late and by the time I was checked in to the hotel and got something to eat it was nearing 2 am. But as I was there only short time I decided to at least go and have a look. I was not disappointed. Apparently it is a hangout for Latina WG and even though it was nearing closing time I saw at least 3 girls I would rate as 9/10. Ended up taking one to the hotel and she gave a super service. Really nice to talk to and frisky in bed. Price was 2500 HKD for 1 hour. Don't know it is expensive for HK but compared to what I have paid other countries she was definitely worth it.

I've only been there once but from that one experience can definitely recommend Escape Bar.

Duke

Mighty Spearsman
10-30-14, 15:14
Hi guys,

I have been to Hong Kong many times and have always had to resolve to the internet to find WG or massage girls. As I was never in Hong Kong for more than 1-2 days at a time for meetings I didn't really have time to be adventurous and seek out places. I've had some fairly good experiences there but as you all know with the internet it most often more a miss than a hit.

A couple of months ago I was there again and one of my friends told me that I absolutely had to check out Escape Bar in Wanchai. I landed late and by the time I was checked in to the hotel and got something to eat it was nearing 2 am. But as I was there only short time I decided to at least go and have a look. I was not disappointed. Apparently it is a hangout for Latina WG and even though it was nearing closing time I saw at least 3 girls I would rate as 9/10. Ended up taking one to the hotel and she gave a super service. Really nice to talk to and frisky in bed. Price was 2500 HKD for 1 hour. Don't know it is expensive for HK but compared to what I have paid other countries she was definitely worth it.

I've only been there once but from that one experience can definitely recommend Escape Bar.

DukeI'm not going to knock you, but the reality is that if you had RTFF'd first, you would have known that the "Price was 2500 HKD for 1 hour. Don't know it is expensive for HK" yes, it is in fact too expensive.

"compared to what I have paid other countries she was definitely worth it" - many travelers make this mistake. You can't compare HK prices with London or New York, you also can't compare HK with Jakarta or some African cities. Each city has its own price scale, simple as that.

Pcpc1688
10-30-14, 20:28
Got in tonight to my fav city next to LA, Hong Kong. Too Temple St night market and many SWs lurking. Anywhere from 5 to a 7 yung and old alike. I passed on them all although the 7 I passed twice looked interesting. Any idea of costs for SW these days as I read before 200-300 for ST.

Walked into a foot place on Woosung St. Got a MILF type and into the room we go. Ok massage then 400 for FS for first pop. Then she wanted me to add 30 minutes so ok but you have to BBBJ me LOL.

Ok no problem but she says she never sucks dick. Ok I will teach you hehe. Anyway she learns rather quickly and I get my 2nd pop after a long 22 HR flight. Told her I want to fuck her ass next time. Who knows 530 hkd out the door and 90 minutes session.

PC out.

RogerThis
10-31-14, 10:12
I've been using http://161sex.com/ and http://go141.com/ but the standard seems to have gone down over the last couple of years, particularly with the latter. I'm thinking of number of listings, reliability of photos etc. Are there any other similar sites out there?

Ramn HK
10-31-14, 17:34
Go to timway.com. Press English then do a search for one floor one. There's also a miss148.com .

Have fun!


I've been using http://161sex.com/ and http://go141.com/ but the standard seems to have gone down over the last couple of years, particularly with the latter. I'm thinking of number of listings, reliability of photos etc. Are there any other similar sites out there?

Boarer
11-01-14, 01:13
What! I am 99 !Hard to believe.Best grand-grannyfuck ever.Gerontophilia? Asians do age well. LOL. Check out the 70's film Harold and Maude.


Got in tonight to my fav city next to LA, Hong Kong. Who knows 530 hkd out the door and 90 minutes session.I always prefer mine in residence. If the gal is good, some are willing to come to your hotel. Get her digits and prearrange.


I've only been there once but from that one experience can definitely recommend Escape Bar.
Congrats! Good to hear. IMHO, the latina girls here are expensive. Think service is better in areas with a Latina population. Only problem is not letting the BF find out and bring his posse after you!

Esceo
11-01-14, 18:08
Are there any actions here?

JackTheLad2
11-01-14, 21:32
Are there any actions here?Plenty. Go to top of page and click on "Abbreviations". Then scroll down to the letter "R". Then look at "RTFF".

Ebauche
11-01-14, 23:23
Plenty. Go to top of page and click on "Abbreviations". Then scroll down to the letter "R". Then look at "RTFF".It's times like this I long for a "Like" button.

Pcpc1688
11-02-14, 08:01
Are there any actions here?Due to protests in HK, all action has stopped. I would move on to Macau.

PC out.

Tiger 888
11-02-14, 08:02
Due to protests in HK, all action has stopped. I would move on to Macau.

PC out.Mongolia is a good place too I heard. Especially now when it is not hot there.

Chantik
11-02-14, 09:26
I actually had a drink at Neptune 3 late on Wednesday night. It was like old times with crowds on the street outside Mes Amis, Typhoon and Carnegies. A decent crowd in Neptune 3 with lots of ladies. A number of Indo ladies now seem to go to Nep 3.

Good news for Jack The Lad.

Red Kilt
11-02-14, 10:25
Mongolia is a good place too I heard. Especially now when it is not hot there.Mongolia is dead now.

Bit of a crackdown there too.

It used to be great. Check out some of my FRs from 2 to 4 years ago.

FreeWillyBruh
11-02-14, 12:32
Guys,

Is there any action in and around Hong Kong airport to pass a few hours of layover?

Pcpc1688
11-02-14, 13:03
Mongolia is dead now.

Bit of a crackdown there too.

It used to be great. Check out some of my FRs from 2 to 4 years ago.Shucks guess it's on to Tibet maybe he can get some Monk action.

PC out.

JackTheLad2
11-02-14, 14:40
I actually had a drink at Neptune 3 late on Wednesday night. It was like old times with crowds on the street outside Mes Amis, Typhoon and Carnegies. A decent crowd in Neptune 3 with lots of ladies. A number of Indo ladies now seem to go to Nep 3.

Good news for Jack The Lad.Thanks Chantik for the heads up. Neptune 3 is one of my favourite places. Will be coming there this Thursday (excuse the pun).

Can't wait.

Tiger 888
11-02-14, 16:16
Terrible news, Jessica (Indonesian), one of the regulars in Makati and Queen Victoria has been murdered by a British Banker in J's residence on Friday night.
Another girl regular in Wan Chai has been found dead with her head almost completely cut off in a suitcase on the balcony already been dead for a few days.

Tiger 888
11-03-14, 02:02
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2818080/Banked-chopped-prostitutes-Briton-called-insane-psychopath-faces-two-murder-charges-Hong-Kong.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/brit-rurik-jutting-charged-after-4555679

Stykler
11-03-14, 05:48
Terrible news, Jessica (Indonesian), one of the regulars in Makati and Queen Victoria has been murdered by a British Banker in J's residence on Friday night.
Another girl regular in Wan Chai has been found dead with her head almost completely cut off in a suitcase on the balcony already been dead for a few days.Fuck me dead. It really is an unpleasant world sometimes.

Chantik
11-03-14, 14:48
RIP to the two lovely Indonesian ladies.

Been to J Residence a few times. It is considered a safe place with the level of security.

Though there was a crazy guy who used to live in J Residence.

Chantik
11-03-14, 14:50
Guys,

Is there any action in and around Hong Kong airport to pass a few hours of layover?There are a few ladies who will visit airport hotels. Expect to pay more. Check the classifieds section.

Big Ass Eater
11-03-14, 14:58
Guys with money are often times the biggest losers!

It's obvious that many girls are attracted to this kind of guys since they can pay for nearly everything, but any girl who thinks rationally understands it's better to hang out with a normal guy than phonies acting like big shots. When they don't get their way they simply go mad, like in this case.

RIP to the girls!

Chantik
11-03-14, 18:53
Can I break my post up into two parts.

Part One.

- The ladies (esp Indo's) are attracted to the young, well off Banker types. And a number of Indo's have actually married bankers. So the profile of the gent is fine.

Part two.

From a working girl perspective. Banker guy who lives in J Residence with its security features is considered safer than a guy who lives in a fifth floor walk up with no lift or security.

Though many working ladies will not go to private residences or they insist a first time meeting happen in a hotel. I follow this thought.

The risk comes because some ladies have the mentality of wanting to go with gents who are drunk or stoned, thinking it will be easy money. The problem is that something can go wrong (not just from the ladies side) and if the GENT has a problem then the lady maybe in trouble. One has to only think of the Grand Hyatt.

It's important to work in a safe environment.

Anyway life will continue as normal, though the ladies may be more cautious.

Stykler
11-03-14, 23:38
Can I break my post up into two parts.

Part One.

- The ladies (esp Indo's) are attracted to the young, well off Banker types. And a number of Indo's have actually married bankers. So the profile of the gent is fine.

Part two.

From a working girl perspective. Banker guy who lives in J Residence with its security features is considered safer than a guy who lives in a fifth floor walk up with no lift or security.

Though many working ladies will not go to private residences or they insist a first time meeting happen in a hotel. I follow this thought.

The risk comes because some ladies have the mentality of wanting to go with gents who are drunk or stoned, thinking it will be easy money. The problem is that something can go wrong (not just from the ladies side) and if the GENT has a problem then the lady maybe in trouble. One has to only think of the Grand Hyatt.

It's important to work in a safe environment.

Anyway life will continue as normal, though the ladies may be more cautious.Chantik. It's times like this when your insight and knowledge of the industry in HK is a mutual benefit to all of us.

Kudos to you big time. Well done and thanks.

Styk.

Hilo77
11-04-14, 02:47
Can I break my post up into two parts.

Part One.

- The ladies (esp Indo's) are attracted to the young, well off Banker types. And a number of Indo's have actually married bankers. So the profile of the gent is fine.

Part two.

From a working girl perspective. Banker guy who lives in J Residence with its security features is considered safer than a guy who lives in a fifth floor walk up with no lift or security.

Though many working ladies will not go to private residences or they insist a first time meeting happen in a hotel. I follow this thought.

The risk comes because some ladies have the mentality of wanting to go with gents who are drunk or stoned, thinking it will be easy money. The problem is that something can go wrong (not just from the ladies side) and if the GENT has a problem then the lady maybe in trouble. One has to only think of the Grand Hyatt.

It's important to work in a safe environment.

Anyway life will continue as normal, though the ladies may be more cautious.The UK Daily Mail is saying that the suspect paid $1000 for the girls that ended up dead. The girls seem like your normal sweet-natured, run-of-the-mill Indonesian single mums that you could have in Jakarta for about fifty bucks, is this really the going rate or is the Daily Mail living up to its usual standards of journalistic integrity?

FreebieFan
11-04-14, 03:06
The UK Daily Mail is saying that the suspect paid $1000 for the girls that ended up dead. The girls seem like your normal sweet-natured, run-of-the-mill Indonesian single mums that you could have in Jakarta for about fifty bucks, is this really the going rate or is the Daily Mail living up to its usual standards of journalistic integrity?Given that we know HK prices are generally HK $ 1000- 1500, then you can assume the DM is talking crap. As usual.

They are also calling J Residence "luxury residences". Have you seen the size of the apartments. Compact would be a better term.

And of course talking abuot "sex hungry expats" is sure to generate more readers. Most of us I think are normal guys who like a bonk now and again, same as the rest of the world.

Zircon
11-04-14, 03:19
Given that we know HK prices are generally HK $ 1000- 1500, then you can assume the DM is talking crap. As usual.

They are also calling J Residence "luxury residences". Have you seen the size of the apartments. Compact would be a better term.

And of course talking abuot "sex hungry expats" is sure to generate more readers. Most of us I think are normal guys who like a bonk now and again, same as the rest of the world.The DM was pricing in British pounds, so this would be a great deal more than in local HK curreency.

FreebieFan
11-04-14, 05:08
The DM was pricing in British pounds, so this would be a great deal more than in local HK curreency.Duh, yes. HK $ 1,000 = GBP 80.

80 pounds or HK $ 1000 would be the same.

The mad money quote of GBP 900 for a girl would be HK $ 11,250. No-one, not even some public schoolboy banker would pay that for a shag.

Daily Mail fail.

Hilo77
11-05-14, 02:02
They are also calling J Residence "luxury residences". Have you seen the size of the apartments. Compact would be a better term.

I was struck by the line that when police arrived they found the first girl badly injured and after "an extensive eight-hour search" they found the other girl with her legs sticking out of a suitcase on the apartment balcony. The apartment certainly didn't look like it was that big that it would take eight hours of searching before you'd get round to the balcony.

LongLunches
11-05-14, 07:06
I was struck by the line that when police arrived they found the first girl badly injured and after "an extensive eight-hour search" they found the other girl with her legs sticking out of a suitcase on the apartment balcony. The apartment certainly didn't look like it was that big that it would take eight hours of searching before you'd get round to the balcony.When you are forensically examining a location, in this case an apartment, you move very very slowly cataloging everything, taking samples etc.

Surprised it wasn't noticed before the forensic team moved in tho.

Such a terrible tragedy.

Chantik
11-05-14, 16:48
I understand the Indonesian consulate was unhappy with their late notification from the Police.

There may be more bad news on the way. Hope I am wrong.

Johnny Rocket
11-05-14, 18:11
Not sure it s been reported here but the KTV / bordello at the intersection of Butt Street / shanghai street has recently moved.

Now located right out of Yaumatei subway station exit see.

You go out and look up and you will find it.

Prices are still the same 450 hkd for 45 minutes.

Girls are the same as wellspring those who have not been there, it offers a good alternative to Dundas and kpressure.

Happy hunting!

J.How is it different exactly? What's on the menu? Shower and bed or KTV room?

Mighty Spearsman
11-05-14, 23:21
Latest article about the horrible murders, both girls now identified as Indonesian:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/horror-hits-hong-kongs-famed-red-light-district/ar-BBd7ZKt

May these two young ladies rest in peace.

JackTheLad2
11-06-14, 19:21
As keen as mustard, I make my way along the yellow brick road to the hotspots of Wanchai. First impressions at 10.30 pm look promising. Plenty people in and around the streets and bars at the likes of OCH and the nearby other bars.

The velvet curtain places have the usual girls hanging around looking to get you in for a beer. First stop Joe Bananas. The renovations make it look a bit more upmarket but no girls there and only Chinese people in. Don't even buy a drink.

Head for Neptune 3. Fairly busy and the usual carry on of not being left in peace for a minute. Have a couple of beers and nothing interests me.

Mamasan Pearla is sick according to Sam the Manager.

Leave and head for New Makati. At 11.00 pm there are only 2 girls in the place along with 3 guys. It is early but I wonder if the recent unfortunate events are having an effect on the place. I about turn and are heading for HK Café. Amazonia looks only half full. I venture into Borocay and are immediately approached by a tiny Philippine girl named Bhebz. She is cute and all over me like a rash.

A couple of ladies drinks later (150 $ each from which she gets 90 $ from each drink) and I have persuaded her to see the room in my hotel. Price down from 1500 to 1000 HK $.

We leave in the pouring rain.

What a disaster! Total change of character in the room. Passive and I could not get her going at all. I cut my losses and she is out the door 1/2 hour later, saying that she hoped to see me tomorrow night. No chance. The name is Bhebz. Remember that and don't get caught out.

I'm off to bed to get rid of the jet lag.

Hope tomorrow is better.

L.

Dimi09
11-07-14, 03:33
Escape had a more international mix. Met a familiar Mongolian, it is a small world. She was engaged so could not elaborate if they apply the same ridiculous pricing as in Beijing now. .It's funny, I was just reading back through this thread, I am sure I met her the following Saturday night. She was a Maggies regular who is now moving to Shanghai and told me that she had met friends from Beijing during the week in Escape. Not the best looking but very chesty and a really nice, friendly personality, speaks decent Mandarin and has very good English. We negotiated when I was blackout drunk and I ended up paying 2000 in the morning so it was expensive enough.

JackTheLad2
11-07-14, 19:31
I could walk blindfolded along the roads from my hotel now and would not get lost. 10.30 pm start in the rain. 1st stop Neptune 3. Busy busy. Soon approached by an attractive 28 year old Philippian who sits beside me at the bar. Talks for a while. Nice girl by the name of Nicole. Getting on well. Buy her a drink. HK150 for a tequila!

Get round to negotiations and she will not budge from $1500st - 2 hours max.

Cut my losses but intend returning. Tries Insiders. Almost empty. Go to HK Cafe - busy and the all-girl band is attracting some interest. More guys up dancing than girls. Then the lights go up and the band stop as the local LE visit to check on visas. They are mob handed and there for quite a while with a message being repeated constantly to say be quiet as they are checking visas. An attractive Thailand girl sidles over and joins me. She obviously wants to be seen as with me. She is not approached by the LE and breathes a sigh of relief.

Then tries NM. There are more bar staff and bouncers than punters. Dead but slowly fills up but only with guys. Have a look in Amazonia. Mostly guys. A look in Joe Bananas reveals about 90% guys.

Decide to cut my losses when my hotel massage girl from last year phones to say she is not . I hurry back along the road and she comes over to the hotel for just under an hour of bliss.

Must be getting old as I could hardly match her enthusiasm. Or maybe too much beer.

Meant to say in Boarocay last night LE also appeared. Obviously they are making their presence known.

Need my sleep as a working day tomorrow.

Big Ass Eater
11-08-14, 11:27
HK is great for shopping and strolling around. Even though the city is full of people I don't feel any stress. Most people in HK are polite and friendly, even though it's somewhat difficult getting close to them.

However, when it comes to the sex market I simply don't know where to go except for Wanchai and some expensive strip clubs. The entire Wanchai scene seems like a rip off, mostly average Filipinos giving you fake smiles on the street. I just don't feel comfortable with the place.

What else is there except for Wanchai? Help me out. I might go to HK next year and want to know other alternatives.

Chantik
11-08-14, 15:43
Police have been in wanchai on Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday. Tuesday was checking girls on the street and Wednesday and Friday were visiting bars. Think the unfortunate events have got police out more often.

Steven Jones
11-08-14, 18:16
HK is great for shopping and strolling around. Even though the city is full of people I don't feel any stress. Most people in HK are polite and friendly, even though it's somewhat difficult getting close to them.

However, when it comes to the sex market I simply don't know where to go except for Wanchai and some expensive strip clubs. The entire Wanchai scene seems like a rip off, mostly average Filipinos giving you fake smiles on the street. I just don't feel comfortable with the place.

What else is there except for Wanchai? Help me out. I might go to HK next year and want to know other alternatives.Not sure if it is still there, but the TST night market became a red light area once the stalls packed up. It depends on what quality woman you are after, also there is the Kwaloon mansions where the lower end of the market operates.

JackTheLad2
11-10-14, 02:50
Wanchai Friday was nothing for me as I worked to after 8. 00 pm and did not feel like venturing out. I did contact my nympho DH friend who I met in NM last year was only too pleased to come over to the hotel. Four hours of solid sex ensued leaving me totally wrecked. She wanted to stay the night but I persuaded her to leave before heart attack problems could possibly have ensued from the exertions of the night. Some girl. Unfortunately from a health viewpoint, I will need to see her again as she left her watch in the room.

Sunday dawns but the lure of the weekly DH day off had to be put on the back burner because of work again. However about 10.30 pm went to Neptune3. Quite busy and some new talent of a reasonable standard seem to have come in but the ones I spoke to said they had been in HK for a week or so.

Being pestered by 3 or 4 is not my cup of tea, particularly when you are asked to buy drinks for them all. That is a turn off for me. Next stop Escape. Quite a few head turners in there and by the looks of it not doing too much business. I did not even ask the going rate but the eye -candy rate was high. Insiders next. Empty.

Cafe HK looked good again but talent on the average scale. Amazonia busy one minute empty the next. Some persistent ladies there but nothing turns my head. By this time the beer goggles are on. A quick trip to Borocay and my presence I almost doubled the numbers, it being so quiet.

To cut a long story short, a group of Vietnamese outside on the road opposite Amazonia made a group approach / attack and were very persuasive, bearing in mind we are headed now for 3. 00 am. One caught my eye and against my better judgement I agreed HK $1000 for LT. Very pretty and young. At my hotel, we are in the undressing stage when she asks for the money up front. I refuse but let her see it (the money that is) and leave the cash on the dressing table. This seems to be OK with her. Needless to say the promises made on the street corner were never fulfilled and after a ST she said she had to go as her friend was waiting for her. Kept asking if I'd come which is always a bad sign. I know she did as my DATY performance makes her night. Too much drink had the effect of struggling to perform despite Vit V. I cut my losses as it was partly my fault, having had too much to drink. She promised to make amends the following night. What I did manage to achieve nevertheless was relatively pleasant. Goes by the name of Moon but I would avoid unless you get it in writing what she will do and for how long. I know I could have held her to her word on LT and paid her less but that only makes matters worse in the long run.

I will never learn.

Macau81
11-10-14, 08:09
Any recommendations for a cheap place that I can bring a WG for overnight?

Chantik
11-10-14, 15:05
Caught up on Sunday morning with a friend visiting HK who previously ad lived in Hk for a long time. Went to a couple of the regular bars and the poor guy got the shock of his life. He's a real ladies man. Chatted up two DH at different venues and both asked for 2000ST. This is more than professionals charge. Thing the ladies may have been dreaming.

Chantik
11-10-14, 15:07
Lady may refuse unless hotel has decent security.

JackTheLad2
11-10-14, 20:27
Working to 11.00 pm.

Headed for the hot spots at 12 midnight. Streets almost empty. Passing by NM, went upstairs. One girl and no guys! I kid you not.

Neptune 3 fairly busy and I meet Jiesel, a 30 year old Filipina on her first visit to Hong Kong (she says). Very nice girl but I do not make a commitment at this stage. Have a couple of beers.

Go to Amazonia. Very quiet as are the streets outside.

Head back to Neptune 3 - getting busier. Meet Jiesel and barter down from $2000 to $1000. I'm happy and off we go. Was not disappointed but again she decides to go after the first session. I'm not bothered to be honest.

The Vitnamese, Moon, from last night interrupts my session on a couple of occasions and I have to switch off my phone. She has probably had an early finish herself and is looking for another punter. It's not going to be me.

It's now 3. 30 am and time to retire to sleep alone.

Chantik
11-11-14, 15:05
This is very much the thing with bar ladies. Short time = 1 pop and run, as opposed to one hour of fun.

Bar ladies are becoming like 141 girls.

Boarer
11-11-14, 19:40
Any recommendations for a cheap place that I can bring a WG for overnight?Many of the hourly guest houses offer overnight rates; from $160 on up. Just walk up and ask the guest houses in Causeway Bay. RTFF, someone mentioned a while back about the Walden (offering $200 overnight after midnight. Someone else mentioned a site that does short term rates at business hotels. Some girls are quite familiar with the available hotels and are willing to guide you. Some of the WGs will thumb their noses at lower end hotels that semipros and DH are happy to accompany you to. IMHO, some of the pros are quite snooty about the location. A DH regular would really relish and appreciate an opportunity to spend a day in a luxury hotel room and order room service and live a little fantasy.

Think most of the northern neighbors like to spend overnight in one of the small guest houses as opposed to a hotel. So you should book in advance if you have plans.
Passing by NM, went upstairs. One girl and no guys! I kid you not.Always like reading your posts. Been like that the couple times I took visitors around the past several months. Also found many of the drink girls want to move to Boracay, Players, and HK Cafe. Maybe more commissions? Supposedly the demand for drinks intensifies.
Working to 11.00 pm.At this hour, most if not all the girls are hard core pros.

Boarer
11-11-14, 20:05
I am travelling to Hong Kong & China from 9 days from 29th. Will be in hk for the weekend before I move to China Shenzhen for 3 days. I am attending an exhibition at Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre. I have to book a hotel still, Tickets done. Basically I am in HK from 29th to 2nd any help on girls in call to hotel or massage parlors or any kind of help to places seniors recommend will be gr8 ly appreciated. Please Pm me for the same.

ThanksJust noticed your PM; me bad. Your box is full. Do you have a post about what you eventually decided to do?

JackTheLad2
11-11-14, 20:52
Working again until 11.00 pm so did not get to the hotspots until 12 midnight. Streets are strangely quiet and no one hanging around the usual bars in Lockhart Rd as I make my way to Neptune 3. Busy and plenty familiar faces at the bar. Jiesel makes her presence known but I remember last night and tell her so. She apologies for leaving early and says it will not happen again. She is right. It won't.

Spend a pleasant hour or so there and then depart for Amazonia. It is heaving! Jam packed.

Great band and plenty girls making themselves available. One or two offered their company but started at $2500. I did not even start to negotiate. The ones that ask for drinks are ignored. Moon from a couple of days ago contacts me and wants to see me. Probably rather wants to see my wallet but I play her along and tell her where I am. Cut a long story short, she will not come into Amazonia for some unknown reason and waits at the door for me for over an hour before I ventured out. She is looking great and I am sorely tempted but I excuse myself and tell her I'm going home alone. Sad to say I feel she is not overly disappointed. I salve my conscious by thinking that they screw you when it suits them, its a business after all, so why not return the favour.

Jiesel also phones at the same time and I let her know of my intentions ie home alone.

Should have mentioned I had room service in the afternoon. My nympho collects her watch. But she was looking for more than the watch and after 2 hours of hard labour, I was left totally shagged out.

Ramn HK
11-12-14, 06:55
Moon from a couple of days ago contacts me and wants to see me. Probably rather wants to see my wallet but I play her along and tell her where I am. Cut a long story short, she will not come into Amazonia for some unknown reason and waits at the door for me for over an hour before I ventured out.Thanks for your great reports Jack. Always a pleasure to read them. I suspect that these bars may have some issue letting in girls the bouncers don't know or perhaps there is something deeper in it. Seems management can't refuse entry to a punter if he brings in the girl himself as opposed to the girl walking in by herself. Several months back I took a guest to NM and all the 7 drink girls there asked to be taken to Amazonia. Maybe our esteemed Chantik can shed some light on this.

Amazonia is hit or miss, but I have seen the crowds seriously coming in when Rapunzel plays.

Have fun and stay safe!

Chantik
11-12-14, 14:02
It could be due to the girl causing trouble in the bar, it could be the girl not having the right I'd to go into that bar. Different bars have different rules. From memory Jack meet Moon on the street.

Guest Houses. I only go to hotels where I can actually check that the guy is in room X. Many guys will make fake bookings. And there is also a security issue with guest houses.

NM - Business levels have been going down since the beginning of the year - Possibly less Indo Refugee ladies. hear that Filipina's are now using this tactic.

Anyway I am off for a weeks holiday.

Camieleke
11-12-14, 16:22
Just back from a week Hong Kong.

A lot of massage action and more around Temple Street. Especially in one street next to Temple Street.

Did not went with them because my agenda was fully booked with my 2 Phil girls I met on DIA.

Spend some fantastic days and nights with them. Real good freebies.

I can recommend DIA to everybody. Be patient, chat for a while and you always win.

Sorry guys but I keep those contacts for me because soon I will be there again.

JackTheLad2
11-12-14, 19:45
What a difference a day makes. After a very nice evening at the local Happy Valley races, I manage to "escape" from my hosts and venture down to Wanchai about 12 midnight. The streets are heaving and outside the bars like Mes Amis, Typhoon and Carnegies there are literally hundreds of people enjoying themselves. It's an effort to get by them.

Neptune 3 gets my custom again and after a few drinks I spy Jeisel from my earlier escapades looking very lost and on her own. I buy her a drink to cheer her up but have second thoughts on inviting her back and we amicably agree to go our separate ways for the time being.

Plenty of suits around. HK Caf on the radar and it again is full of suits with their business female colleagues all having a good time on the dance floor. I noticed bottles of champers being brought to their tables. In addition, plenty girls looking for business.

Met one of the Vietnamese girls from the other night and she asks if I am interested in Moon, who is out on the streets somewhere but I politely decline.

Next stop Amazonia full of guys. Looked into Borocay empty. Had a look in Escape and again, the vast majority of customers are men. The same at Insiders.

Back to Neptune3 but only had a drink and decided to call it a day. Too much to eat and drink at the races and I'm ready for bed. Looks like I will be on my own.

Unusually, quite a few girls hanging about the streets near to the MTR offering all sorts of services.

Must be something on in HK that has brought so many out onto the streets / bars.
Just as I upload this Jeisel texts me - can she come over. I agree to help her out. More tomorrow

Boarer
11-13-14, 08:21
Guest Houses. I only go to hotels where I can actually check that the guy is in room X. Many guys will make fake bookings. And there is also a security issue with guest houses.ROFLMFAOYSST! Thanks for confirming; owe you another one! Think AirBNB shares just went down.

Dirty Hog
11-13-14, 22:56
HK is great for shopping and strolling around. Even though the city is full of people I don't feel any stress. Most people in HK are polite and friendly, even though it's somewhat difficult getting close to them.

However, when it comes to the sex market I simply don't know where to go except for Wanchai and some expensive strip clubs. The entire Wanchai scene seems like a rip off, mostly average Filipinos giving you fake smiles on the street. I just don't feel comfortable with the place.

What else is there except for Wanchai? Help me out. I might go to HK next year and want to know other alternatives.So many opportunities to have sex in Hong Kong almost better than Bangkok and Manila. Hone Kong offers a much more varied palate. A few opportunities as follows I have experienced over the years;.

Wanchai discos; working girls or domestic helpers.

Wanchai through the curtain places / pole dancing; rip off joints be careful. Can take the girl away and bar fine her for couple of hours / the night / or have drink with her in dark corner she jerk you off in premises, these place I like to just sit quietly and drink beer and not pay for girl drinks, they are expensive places but good for half hour and couple of drinks before going to discos.

Wanchai street action; can chat up girls on the street then take away.

Wanchai back alleys; had blow job action myself near Lockhart road down back alleys, often can make contact with street girls near MTR.

All over Hong Kong HK. Massage parlours; sauna / Jacuzzi / luxury places, can pay at end of massage for jerk off or full sex.

All over HK. 141. To ditch the smart acronym and make people understand ******.com. Go to these places old Chinese buildings. If a westerner with no Chinese just choose the buildings with most girls.

TST street girls. Tsim Sha Tsui. Near midnight lots of street girls on Nathan Road.

Escort girls. Look on internet / telephone directory / have them to your hotel. More expensive.

Temple Street, Kowloon near night market, lots of girls hanging around in doorways need servicing, cheap and quick, have done a few.

K Pressure. 1,2, hours soap and fuck. Good, showers. Beer, near Temple street nearby.

37 Dundas. Another place in Kowloon with lots of girls and rooms brothel style. Recommended.

#annoyances. You get price from girl in disco. She says all night 1500.200 o hkdollar. Then after first fuck she wants o run for it, becomes half HR or one HR at most. I give half agreed amount up front, then show her other half and show her putting it in safe for morning to have. What usually happens I'd s she says ok, then vanishes like a fart in the wind after the first half hour proving my point that she was going to do short time anyway. But there are girls there that stick to their word and do long time to breakfast, they are out there.

# if taking a shower valuables in safe / or with you in shower with wallet / rolex.

# if they try to offer you a drink don't take it, careful of drink spiking. See can opened. I had a girl persevere with me try to get me to have can after returning from shower. Vietnamese girl, seemed too pushy about it, declined, was ok chose a nice beer from the fridge instead unopened drank that. She disappeared after half hour also. Sometimes rarely, they spike drink go to sleep then take watch and wallet, very rare but does go on. Most girls a lot nicer than that fortunately, but odd bad apple. Most times after 5- 10 pints most guys fall fast asleep anyway, after continual loops of beer drinking in wacnahi.

#careful of girl drinks suddenly appearing in dancing pole places in wanchai that you did not order. Once ai did a runner after three girls suddenly landed around me and insisted I was buying them girl drink, pieces of paper bills everywhere. I paid for my other drinks. 2. By slamming down 150 HK dollars or thereabouts and ran for it out of club 88 in calculated manoeuvre. In and instand. I heard shouts after me. I buried myself in New Makati and soon settled down again.

#I get annoyed by all this pushiness about buy me a drink carry on in normal discos now. It never used ti happen, you could just sit there few years go and have chat whether they were working girls or not, but now they suddenly surround you. Buy me drink.

#negotiate. They offer terrible amounts at first sometimes.

Jut a few things to look out for. Generally all will be great, lots of sex opportunities, plenty pussy. Its often also hairy Bush also which is nice. None of this shaven raven rubbish happens too much these days.

Ramn HK
11-14-14, 07:46
Was out with a couple of buddies and headed to Joe Bananas on Thursday night. Nice band, good music. Mixture of people from civvies to WG. From locals to tourists.

At about 11:30, police come in with a drug sniffing dog, and the dog was looking to get high but no drugs found among the patrons. Then they started asking for Id's from all the customers. First time in the 25+ years that I have been coming to Wanchai that I have been carded. There was a tourist who luckily had his passport with him. So for HK visitors it might be a good idea to carry a copy of your passport. I have only seen LE carding the girls before looking for over-stayers, first time I have seen LE carding the guys.

According to the manager, they have been raided on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, yesterday being Thursday and they expect a visit on Friday as well. Hope things settle down soon.

JackTheLad2
11-14-14, 09:35
Walking along the road just before 12 midnight, compared to last night, I thought I was in the wrong place. The streets were all but empty at the usual spots. Walked into Neptune3 and there was only a few girls there. Was informed that the place was about to be visited in about 10 minutes and lo and behold in 10 minutes in comes 17 LE and a dog. I counted them in. Looking for drugs but did not find any. There were hardly any girls in to check their I'd's but they did not ask any of the guys as it appears they did in Joe Bananas which is the report just before this. I don't carry my ID with me. What would happen should I have been asked for it?

Left intending to go into Amazonia but the LE beat me to it so proceeded to HK Cafe. Girl band being watched by many guys but only a sprinkling of WG's there.

Returned to Neptune3. It was heaving now and a girl told me that they had all been waiting in the 7/11 shop until the LE visit was over.

The jungle drums must have been beating.
Had a few beers and bumped into Jeisel and agreed to let her try to get some drink money in from potential customers and she would phone me later. My previous report ended by me saying that Jeisel had phoned me asking if she could come to my hotel. She did and left at 11.30 am the next morning. Enough said!

Went on to HK Cafe which was fairly full and I bumped into my Vietnamese friend, Moon. She was scared still of the LE. Negotiated down to $1000 and we were off, A nice night and she offered to stay LT for another $1000. I politely declined. At one point in the night I am being cow girl ridden silly by this very attractive 25 year old girl and I thing what it must be like to be in heaven. Down side was that Jeisel phoned to break the spell but I lied and told her I was finished for the night. Not quite a lie. Moon leaves about 4.00am and I get some well earned sleep.

Mighty Spearsman
11-15-14, 05:01
Was out with a couple of buddies and headed to Joe Bananas on Thursday night.

So for HK visitors it might be a good idea to carry a copy of your passport.Ramn HK mentions an old travel tip that is worth repeating. When you're out on the town for the evening (in Hong Kong and elsewhere in Asia), keep your passport locked up in the hotel safe, but carry a photocopy of the face page of your passport with you for ID purposes.

Another tip is to scan the face page of your passport as a PDF file, then e-mail the file to yourself. If you ever do have your passport stolen / lost, you can go to an Internet cafe, print out the attachment and use it as a temporary ID and to expedite getting another passport issued.

Ramn HK
11-15-14, 10:06
Did the Wanchai tour again with a friend. I wonder what it is when you tell a buddy that your wife is out of town, and they want to take you to each and every bar. Still feeling fragile at 1600 on Saturday. Had fun though.

Roughly 11:20 pm, police had a raid on Insiders which is normally an empty bar except for weekends. This time there were 2 drug sniffing dogs, and lots of LE disappointed that they didn't find anything. Several Western gentlemen were carded, and a few of the girls. We weren't carded. Heavy LE presence on the streets of Wanchai.

Visitors should heed Mighty Spearsman's advice on carrying a photocopy of their passport.

Wonder when this will all stop and we can continue to have unabated fun.

Chantik
11-15-14, 14:16
I believe that the building that houses Mes Ami will be demolished in April 2015.

I understand that some type of hotel will be built on the premises.

I am unsure this is a great location for a hotel.

Dirty Hog
11-15-14, 17:17
Ramn HK mentions an old travel tip that is worth repeating. When you're out on the town for the evening (in Hong Kong and elsewhere in Asia), keep your passport locked up in the hotel safe, but carry a photocopy of the face page of your passport with you for ID purposes.

Another tip is to scan the face page of your passport as a PDF file, then e-mail the file to yourself. If you ever do have your passport stolen / lost, you can go to an Internet cafe, print out the attachment and use it as a temporary ID and to expedite getting another passport issued.Yes a good idea. I do find if you walk around with the actual passport in your pocket all the time it tends to start getting a bit crumpled and ruins it. Also there is this fear that your actual passport will be lost. I always keep UK driving licence on me which has photo I'd anyway, should hope that this may suffice in an event or I'd check. It is basically always in the wallet. One way or another a person must have some I'd on them if travelling.

JackTheLad2
11-16-14, 15:09
Sorry, but no report for Friday night other than to say room service was booked with my nympho friend who came over about 11.00 pm and left at 9. 00 am.

I was very lucky to be able to get out of bed which tells you about the night.

On Saturday I was making my way out for dinner about 8. 00 pm and I bumped into a couple of colleagues worse the wear from drink as a result of attending the local rugby event at Happy Valley. I joined them and we headed for a Thai restaurant located beside NM. At 9. 00 pm they were keen to see / listen to the all-girl band at HK Café but before we went there we paid a visit to Neptune3. It was amazingly busy at 9. 00 pm but did not see any of my lady friends. After a couple of beers, headed for HK Café. Busy again with some very attractive recent arrivals in situ. Got talking to a few and was very impressed with quality. My colleagues soon had made their arrangements. One of the girls, a trainee midwife from the Philippines was in the stunning category.

I got talking to a girl standing on her own who had just arrived. Her first night in HK. 31 years old from Philippines (where else). Very chatty and friendly with an awesome figure and got round to pricing and she asked me what I would pay. I mentioned my usual $1000 and she immediately agreed and wanted to go there and then, early as it was. I had to ask her to leave at 11.00 am as I was going out and she performed like a trooper with BBBJ her speciality. If I had let her, she would have done this all night.

Incidentally LE paid the café a visit but were only in the place for no longer than 5 minutes before leaving. Never saw anyone being asked for I'd.

My new found friend is desperate to see me tonight as this is my last night but I am in a quandary as to who to say cheerio to.

Life is hard.

Osuul
11-16-14, 18:24
Hi,

I am looking for some advice for a 4:30 hour stop over. I have a flight arriving at 16:25 and will take off again at 21:00.

I want to go too Kowloon for some shopping and maybe a quick dundas fix.

I am expecting something like this.

1. Land.

2. Transfer desk for my connecting flight (so I shouldn't have to handle my check in luggage).

3. Immigration.

4. Some luggage drop off? Anyone know where?

5. Expressway to Kowloon.

6. Shopping.

7. Back to Airport.

8. Get my Carry on back.

9. to my gate.

Hope that work in the time available. Any advice on the luggage service?

Pelon74
11-16-14, 22:19
When you exit customs in the far right there is a luggage service per hour or per day.


Hi,

I am looking for some advice for a 4:30 hour stop over. I have a flight arriving at 16:25 and will take off again at 21:00.

I want to go too Kowloon for some shopping and maybe a quick dundas fix.

I am expecting something like this.

1. Land.

2. Transfer desk for my connecting flight (so I shouldn't have to handle my check in luggage).

3. Immigration.

4. Some luggage drop off? Anyone know where?

5. Expressway to Kowloon.

6. Shopping.

7. Back to Airport.

8. Get my Carry on back.

9. to my gate.

Hope that work in the time available. Any advice on the luggage service?

Stykler
11-17-14, 07:07
Hi,

I am looking for some advice for a 4:30 hour stop over. I have a flight arriving at 16:25 and will take off again at 21:00.

I want to go too Kowloon for some shopping and maybe a quick dundas fix.

I don't understand why you would even bother:

1. You will be too rushed to enjoy the experience.

2. Only one small thing has to go wrong and you could miss your connecting flight.

3. If your flight in is late, your plans are fucked.

For that length of time I would be staying at HKIA.

Ikksman
11-17-14, 08:07
Hi,

I am looking for some advice for a 4:30 hour stop over. I have a flight arriving at 16:25 and will take off again at 21:00.

I want to go too Kowloon for some shopping and maybe a quick dundas fix. {S N I P} I recommend you forget about the Dundas fix, but if you are desperate to do some shopping (at much reduced prices compared to the HKIA stores), it is only 5 minutes by taxi from HKIA to the Tung Chung Citygate outlet stores. Sometimes there is a bit of a wait for local taxis, in which case you can use a red HKI taxi (the driver can get a ticket, which enables him to get back at the front of the queue after he drops you off). But if you are cheeky, you can use the Novotel transfer bus that goes straight to the Citygate Novotel hotel (after dropping off a few pretty young aircrew at one or two of the surrounding apartments). There is an easily recognisable entrance from the hotel lobby area directly into the shopping concourse.

Ikks.

P.S. this is also a good way for cheap charlies to get into HKI by MTR rather than the relatively expensive airport express (but of course it is much slower, and often crowded).

JackTheLad2
11-17-14, 12:51
Quandary mentioned in my last report solved.

Working to 9. 0 pm but I wanted to have one last visit to one or two bars. Contacted my nympho friend who does not need a lot of persuasion to come over and as I give her a small present / gift, she repays in spades. I have to ease her, almost literally, out about 12.30 and make my way to the action. The streets are quiet and there are very few punters in the bars along Lockhart Road. I head for Neptune3. It is fairly quiet so automatically you are surrounded by the "buy me a drink?" brigade. Jeisel appears out of the blue and I have a pleasant ½ hour with her before I inform her I need to go home (alone) but a couple of ladies drinks keeps her happy. We promise to stay in touch. She has had no customers the previous two nights. It can be a hard life.

My intention was to make for HK Café to see my new "friend" Aileen and to go out with a bang with her, but for some unknown reason I chicken out. After a session with nympho, there is no way I could keep Aileen happy.

I get a reasonable night's sleep.

Overall impressions? HK is still a great place but I have no doubt that the numbers of available girls is on the decrease, hence the upward movement in price. There are fewer Filipinas and the DH, usually a freebie in the past, has cottoned on there is some money to be made. Price of ladies drinks is extortionate. Overall quality varies but IMHO is down a bit over the years. There is an increase in the number of WG's working off the streets, particularly around the MTR and outside Amazonia. Borocay continues to be crap and I don't know how Insiders survives. NM is only a shadow of the place it used to be. Escape (probably expensive to get a carry-out from there), Neptune3 and the HK Café are probably the best places, closely followed by Amazonia.

My next visit is only a few months away and already, sitting in the airport lounge, I am looking forward to it.

Keep the reports coming in – its bedtime reading for me.

Boarer
11-18-14, 02:30
Had a few beers and bumped into Jeisel and agreed to let her try to get some drink money in from potential customers and she would phone me later. My previous report ended by me saying that Jeisel had phoned me asking if she could come to my hotel. She did and left at 11.30 am the next morning. Enough said!OMG, did she drug you? Clean out your room as well as you? Pump you full of C? Details mate!! LOL All 50 shades!


I am looking for some advice for a 4:30 hour stop over. I have a flight arriving at 16:25 and will take off again at 21:00. I want to go too Kowloon for some shopping and maybe a quick dundas fix.You probably have time to do one but not both. As a visitor to HK and if you already have your boarding pass, you should be at the airport immigration at 8 P at the latest as the lines and walk to the gates could be long. That means that you have to be at the Kowloon Airport Express Station before 7:20 P. That means that you might have a little under an hour at Dundas if you know your way. IMHO. Remember, some places close their gate 20 minutes before departure and start giving away no show seats.

JackTheLad2
11-18-14, 16:41
OMG, did she drug you? Clean out your room as well as you? Pump you full of C? Details mate!! LOL All 50 shades!
Certainly did not drug me! Did not clean out the room, either! She did clean me out however!

She is a girl that, in my view, just should not be in WanChai. She is the girl next door type. She has been caught up as many of them are, trying desperate ways to make money to keep them and their family going. She has tried the word's oldest profession.

Want to know the details? Great sex but had to work hard at it. Took a while to get her going but, as usual, DATY can work wonders. It did. Treating them nice and with respect invariably works wonders. It relaxed her, she got into it and we both had a great time. Mish, cowgirl etc etc. She is back home this Thursday and I don't think she will be back. She is not the pushy type, making the first move and asking for ladies drinks, and I found her just siting at the bar on her own. It's a hard life for some of them.

NOZ2215
11-20-14, 06:43
She is a girl that, in my view, just should not be in WanChai. She is the girl next door type. She has been caught up as many of them are, trying desperate ways to make money to keep them and their family going. She has tried the word's oldest profession.

Treating them nice and with respect invariably works wonders.Glad you enjoyed your return to HK, possibly Nicole you went at NEP3 was one of the girls who assisted me in reconnecting with my little Gem, I can report that so far things are working out between us, she has traveled with me to Singapore, China and back to HK, but we do venture into WanChai, since we are both leaving the passed behind it maybe pushing our luck that neither of us would bump into someone that would cause an uncomfortable moment, more that some drunken bozo would try there luck and me having a short fuse would do something I may regret.

I've meet a few of her friends in Makati, and as you say about the girl you meet they're very much next door type girls (very pretty and attractive also) that have found themselves in a situation which making the trip to HK / Singapore etc seems like the only way out, most of them said: the were told by friends they can make enough just through drink tips, but we know that's not the case.

Most guys have treat them nicely but there's always 1 or 2 who think because they've thrown a couple of dollars on the bed then they can do anything with them (tend to be the younger guys), these girls are young and inexperienced in that situation so they don't know what to do and it makes them more withdrawn, many making only 1 trip because of this.

Anyway, I'm sure others will have a different thought, I enjoyed reading you latest trip reports, and maybe one we'll be in HK the same time and I'd gladly buy you a beer or three.

Cheers and to all other punters out there, treat the ladies nicely, and if you don't get what you want put down as a learning experience, don't take it out on the next lady you meet.

Boarer
11-23-14, 06:22
She is a girl that, in my view, just should not be in WanChai. She is the girl next door type. She has been caught up as many of them are, trying desperate ways to make money to keep them and their family going. She has tried the word's oldest profession.It is not an uncommon story and I can say it is true with at least several of the ladies I knew.


Want to know the details? Great sex but had to work hard at it. Took a while to get her going but, as usual, DATY can work wonders. It did. Treating them nice and with respect invariably works wonders. It relaxed her, she got into it and we both had a great time. Mish, cowgirl etc etc. She is back home this Thursday and I don't think she will be back. She is not the pushy type, making the first move and asking for ladies drinks, and I found her just siting at the bar on her own. It's a hard life for some of them.LOL, this is a common story. I for one am really turned off by the drink vampires but I play along because it is a business and if they at least make it fun for me, I do not mind. Most of the girls are not financial wizes and do not figure out the game for a while or consistently make bad decisions. They are taken advantage by everyone. It is pretty sad but some never learn and dig a deeper and deeper hole and need to keep coming back. Sad thing for the nice innocent ones is that the other ladies and kuyas are constantly trying to rip them off. Then there are the punters who demand they reimburse the drinks money if the ladies refuse to go with them or the punters who do not pay or the punters who hit them. The list goes on. IMHO, not a easy situation but hard to save everyone. Then again, beware, there are the black widows.

Despite the recent events, the mention in the news of how much money was spent is luring many DH / girl next door into the area. You can't stop them and they will keep going to Wanchai.

Glad to hear that you found some gems. They are getting harder to find. IMHO, keep them happy till your next trip! Nice set or reports.


my little Gem, I can report that so far things are working out between us
Most guys have treat them nicely but there's always 1 or 2 who think because they've thrown a couple of dollars on the bed then they can do anything with them (tend to be the younger guys), these girls are young and inexperienced in that situation so they don't know what to do and it makes them more withdrawn, many making only 1 trip because of this.I for one do not throw as much money as Bill Crosby but I do expect service. Glad you found your gem. Some of the girls can be very sweet and know how to play you like a fiddle!

Pcpc1688
11-23-14, 06:56
I recommend you forget about the Dundas fix, but if you are desperate to do some shopping (at much reduced prices compared to the HKIA stores), it is only 5 minutes by taxi from HKIA to the Tung Chung Citygate outlet stores. Sometimes there is a bit of a wait for local taxis, in which case you can use a red HKI taxi (the driver can get a ticket, which enables him to get back at the front of the queue after he drops you off). But if you are cheeky, you can use the Novotel transfer bus that goes straight to the Citygate Novotel hotel (after dropping off a few pretty young aircrew at one or two of the surrounding apartments). There is an easily recognisable entrance from the hotel lobby area directly into the shopping concourse.

Ikks.

P.S. this is also a good way for cheap charlies to get into HKI by MTR rather than the relatively expensive airport express (but of course it is much slower, and often crowded).I took A22 from HKIA to Shanghai St in Jordan in 35 minutes. Its was the 3rd or 4th stop. Well worth the 39 hkd and just a few minutes walk to hotel. Other way by Airport express is more and still have to take a cab from Kowloon Station.

PC out.

Chantik
11-24-14, 14:50
Victoria Hotel in Wanchai has started charging $480 (short time = 2 hrs) from late in the evenings. I've given this place a miss and ask my GENTS to go to Beverley Hotel or Excellent Park Hotel.

Question for the gents.

Noticed a number of posts where the guys write that ladies send SMS's (after a meeting) requesting further meetings. Is this a common thing?

Dirty Hog
11-24-14, 21:36
Lonely Man Island or Ling Ding Dao in Chinese, Is meant to be a little Chinese island very close to Hong Kong waters territory, but is mainland China. Apparently you can get a small sampan hired from Aberdeen harbour and get across there. There are meant to be loads of hair dressers shops, that are cover as working girls, hookers galore apparently, absolutely everywhere, have been told this by one or two expats and Chinese also, but yet to meet someone that has actually gone there, one HK Chinese I met said he had been but went quiet would not give details, perhaps other people know of this little island crawling with working girls all over the place. It is not meant to take too long from Aberdeen Harbour. Also Lamma sampans when hired may get you there someone said. I did find it on a map once, but can't seem to find it on google maps. Pussy everywhere they say. Women dropping there knickers in an instant.

Tiger 888
11-25-14, 04:56
Lonely Man Island or Ling Ding Dao in Chinese, Is meant to be a little Chinese island very close to Hong Kong waters territory, but is mainland China. Apparently you can get a small sampan hired from Aberdeen harbour and get across there. There are meant to be loads of hair dressers shops, that are cover as working girls, hookers galore apparently, absolutely everywhere, have been told this by one or two expats and Chinese also, but yet to meet someone that has actually gone there, one HK Chinese I met said he had been but went quiet would not give details, perhaps other people know of this little island crawling with working girls all over the place. It is not meant to take too long from Aberdeen Harbour. Also Lamma sampans when hired may get you there someone said. I did find it on a map once, but can't seem to find it on google maps. Pussy everywhere they say. Women dropping there knickers in an instant.Are you sure this is the island you are looking for? Looks to me more like a family vacation place.
Legally not accessible from HK. Has ferries from Zhuhai.

http://www.asievue.com/fr/article/index/view/id/686/
http://www.chinahighlights.com/zhuhai/attraction/wai-lingding-island.htm

Dirty Hog
11-25-14, 17:45
Are you sure this is the island you are looking for? Looks to me more like a family vacation place.
Legally not accessible from HK. Has ferries from Zhuhai.

http://www.asievue.com/fr/article/index/view/id/686/
http://www.chinahighlights.com/zhuhai/attraction/wai-lingding-island.htmInteresting links, thank you. Not sure if that is the Island or not, has the same sounding name. From what I can gather the Island is very close to Hong Kong, just a quick boat trip. No other info on it unfortunately. I thought it was to NW of HK territory waters, Macau sort of direction.

VaderDarth
11-26-14, 22:31
I am due to travel to Hong Kong and Macau with my friends in December. I am curious about the following:

- place to stay. I have previously stayed in Kowloon, but wondering if there is some other area I should stay at?

- in the area, what is a girl friendly hotel? Budget is no more than 120 usd per night.

- I am aware of scene in Wanchai, Temple Street etc. , but want slightly upscale one night at least. .

- is there a chance to hook up with non Asian / non African WGs? I'd like CIS / Russian. Would they be more expensive?

Many thanks.

Brown Rail
11-27-14, 02:50
I am due to travel to Hong Kong and Macau with my friends in December. I am curious about the following:

- place to stay. I have previously stayed in Kowloon, but wondering if there is some other area I should stay at?

- in the area, what is a girl friendly hotel? Budget is no more than 120 usd per night.

- I am aware of scene in Wanchai, Temple Street etc. , but want slightly upscale one night at least. .

- is there a chance to hook up with non Asian / non African WGs? I'd like CIS / Russian. Would they be more expensive?

Many thanks.Morning Vader,

Welcome to Hong Kong, enjoy our community. Please behave and treat others as you would like to be treated.

I would suggest that you stay on the HK side. The most convenient will be Wanchai, Causeway Bay, Tin Hau, North Point, maybe Quarry Bay. As long as your hotel is near an MTR stop you are only 5-15 minutes from the action by MTR, less at night by taxi.

For hotel I suggest you use Trivago to book. It is a meta-search so you save a few extra dollars by seeing what all the other sites are offering. If you want to stay in Wanchai itself, Metropark, Empire, Warney are in the thick of it, and in your price range. JJ is a boutique, $80, about 5 minutes walk. The Charterhouse is maybe 10 minutes' walk. In Causeway Bay look for Rosedale. In Tin Hau, L'Hotel. As far as I know, all hotels in HK are girl friendly.

I don't know that there is a particularly upscale district in HK with "girls". Lan Kwai Fong (LKF) is arguably more upscale. There are more non-working girls, and more Chinese working girls. Lots of bankers and lawyers. Better to bring your own girl. If you want an upscale experience, better to find your own girl (online Badoo, in wanchai, etc.) and take her out on the town. If you are traveling with your buddies, this will be more fun. There are lots of great places to take them, but you have to bring your own: wooloomooloo in Wanchai or TST is an upscale steak house / bar on top of buildings with amazing views, and good buzz. Felix on top of the Peninsula, Ozone on top of the RitzCarlton at the ICC (the highest bar in the world).

Best place to find non-Asians is either online Badoo or Escape in Wanchai. There you will find Russians and Colombians. But why come to HK looking for western women? Yes they are more expensive. And in HK you rarely get what you pay for. You get what you deserve! Note also that since the murder the police have been checking the girls' IDs more, so fewer are out. The girls are also more selective.

Last thought, you could try to book Chantik as an escort your first night. She knows more than anyone. Her knowledge could probably be worth the price as it will set up the rest of your trip. And from what I hear, she is amazing.

Do let me know if you want to hang out when you are here.

Ikksman
11-27-14, 08:58
Lonely Man Island or Ling Ding Dao in Chinese, Is meant to be a little Chinese island very close to Hong Kong waters territory, but is mainland China. Apparently you can get a small sampan hired from Aberdeen harbour and get across there. There are meant to be loads of hair dressers shops, that are cover as working girls, hookers galore apparently, absolutely everywhere, have been told this by one or two expats and Chinese also, but yet to meet someone that has actually gone there, one HK Chinese I met said he had been but went quiet would not give details, perhaps other people know of this little island crawling with working girls all over the place. It is not meant to take too long from Aberdeen Harbour. Also Lamma sampans when hired may get you there someone said. I did find it on a map once, but can't seem to find it on google maps. Pussy everywhere they say. Women dropping there knickers in an instant.There are 2 LingDing dao (Linton Islands). These are:


1. Inner LingDing Island: 内 伶 仃 岛 Nèi língdīng dǎo (between Zhuhai and Shenzhen).

2. Outer Lingding Island: 外 伶 仃 岛 Wài língdīng dǎo (closer to Aberdeen Harbour and Lamma Island).

I have not heard reports of WGs at either of these islands previously and I am reasonably certain there are not loads of BBS's (barber shops that don't cut hair) at either island. They are PRC islands and I doubt that Laowai would be able to hire sampan to get to either island from HK.

MvuLane
11-27-14, 15:12
I have been yesterday for the first time at Neptune, HK caf, etc.

At the beginning, it felt nice to be surrounded by cute young girls (most of them). After the third round of drinks for all, the fun stops and it becomes seriously annoying. 150 HKD for a drink, times the number of girls, times the number of rounds and it can quickly escalate to a considerable amount.

I do not wonder any more why most do not want to come back to your hotel (for less than a ludicrous price): they probably make more money with drink commission than ST / LT. Most seem actually to enjoy the attention, it's like a never-ending party.

It certainly beats my cubicle job, apart for the occasional business trip.

It's a business, so next time I will not hesitate to turn down the 'buy me a drink' herd. Sorry, I go to these places to have fun and I didn't have much yesterday (unless you call fun spending 1,000 HKD / HR for 'talking' to girls).

FYI I have been told regular price is HKD 3,000 (by many, like if they created a cartel or something) but freelancers still sometimes appear and can be taken out for 1-2,000 HKD (ST, but also LT).

I did ended up going back home with one of these freelancers, at 5 am and after negotiating 1,500 for the rest of the night. Sex was passionate, but I realized I spent 3,000+ for it! Dundas budget for a whole week of fun.

Yes, here I am, about to go there again. More later.

Dirty Hog
11-28-14, 10:05
I have been yesterday for the first time at Neptune, HK caf, etc.

At the beginning, it felt nice to be surrounded by cute young girls (most of them). After the third round of drinks for all, the fun stops and it becomes seriously annoying. 150 HKD for a drink, times the number of girls, times the number of rounds and it can quickly escalate to a considerable amount.

I do not wonder any more why most do not want to come back to your hotel (for less than a ludicrous price): they probably make more money with drink commission than ST / LT. Most seem actually to enjoy the attention, it's like a never-ending party.

It certainly beats my cubicle job, apart for the occasional business trip.

It's a business, so next time I will not hesitate to turn down the 'buy me a drink' herd. Sorry, I go to these places to have fun and I didn't have much yesterday (unless you call fun spending 1,000 HKD / HR for 'talking' to girls).

FYI I have been told regular price is HKD 3,000 (by many, like if they created a cartel or something) but freelancers still sometimes appear and can be taken out for 1-2,000 HKD (ST, but also LT).

I did ended up going back home with one of these freelancers, at 5 am and after negotiating 1,500 for the rest of the night. Sex was passionate, but I realized I spent 3,000+ for it! Dundas budget for a whole week of fun.

Yes, here I am, about to go there again. More later.The drinks issue has ruined it, "buy me drink! All the time, I just don't, hardly ever at all anyway, going back 10 years or more you could talk to whoever you wanted, without that, this issue seems to have appeared in last 5 - 10 years, it is incredibly annoying, and hugely expensive if not careful, it is almost as bad as the pole dancing curtain places. I often pick up on the street to keep it cheaper, you can just stand there watching them all go by and chose the one you want, tons of choice.

JackTheLad2
11-28-14, 12:26
The drinks issue has ruined it, "buy me drink! All the time, I just don't, hardly ever at all anyway, going back 10 years or more you could talk to whoever you wanted, without that, this issue seems to have appeared in last 5 - 10 years, it is incredibly annoying, and hugely expensive if not careful, Could not agree more. It has got worse over the years, compounded by the fact the price of a ladies drink has gone through the roof. 150 HK $ for a fruit juice! (The girl gets $90 of that).

I have a rule which I stick strictly to. If a girl asks me for a drink I just say NO. If I am talking to a girl who does not ask, then I will probably buy her a drink or two depending on the vibes. Some places are more expensive than others. From memory, Nept3 is the worst but HK Caf is nearer $75 a drink. And when they want a tequila, its even worse!

In my last trip earlier this month I saw a couple of suits surrounded by girls in Nept3 buying them drinks as if it was going out of fashion. Must have cost a fortune. I know girls that on a good night can get $800 - $1000 on drinks alone.

Dirty Hog
11-28-14, 20:41
Could not agree more. It has got worse over the years, compounded by the fact the price of a ladies drink has gone through the roof. 150 HK $ for a fruit juice! (The girl gets $90 of that).

I have a rule which I stick strictly to. If a girl asks me for a drink I just say NO. If I am talking to a girl who does not ask, then I will probably buy her a drink or two depending on the vibes. Some places are more expensive than others. From memory, Nept3 is the worst but HK Caf is nearer $75 a drink. And when they want a tequila, its even worse!

In my last trip earlier this month I saw a couple of suits surrounded by girls in Nept3 buying them drinks as if it was going out of fashion. Must have cost a fortune. I know girls that on a good night can get $800 - $1000 on drinks alone.Wow, think I might tan my face up a bit, put some lipstick and a mini skirt on and try it myself, just the drinks bit I mean.

Double Shooter
11-29-14, 07:23
The Shooter has a 1-day stopover 11 am Sunday to 8 am Monday. Planning to try the DH scene in Wanchai.

Plenty of info via RTFF and Google, but is it up to date? Recent reports suggest that many DHs have cottoned on to the possibility of getting paid while having fun!

Any tips from seasoned members? Slight preference for non-Fili because next stop is Angeles! FR to follow.

TexJake
11-30-14, 01:56
The Shooter has a 1-day stopover 11 am Sunday to 8 am Monday. Planning to try the DH scene in Wanchai.

Plenty of info via RTFF and Google, but is it up to date? Recent reports suggest that many DHs have cottoned on to the possibility of getting paid while having fun!

Any tips from seasoned members? Slight preference for non-Fili because next stop is Angeles! FR to follow.Yes it is almost completely a for profit endeavor for the DHs at this point -- starting with the drinks (they make HKD100 for each overpriced drink you buy them) and then onwards. But everyone knows the rules and it can still be a good time. So enjoy and let us know how it goes.

Chantik
11-30-14, 09:45
Think you'll find the DH are less into drink commissions. They prefer P4 P. Posted two weeks ago that out one Sunday with a long time friend, who was visiting HK for the first time in over a year. This guy lived in Hk for many years and knew the scene. He chatted up an INDO Dh who asked for 2000 for S / T. My mate thought he misheard and asked me to repat the question. My mate heard right. There is one certainty. Say you are visiting (girls can usually work it out) and you will be charged.

Dirty Hog
11-30-14, 22:26
There are 2 LingDing dao (Linton Islands). These are:


1. Inner LingDing Island: 内 伶 仃 岛 Ni lngdīng dǎo (between Zhuhai and Shenzhen).

2. Outer Lingding Island: 外 伶 仃 岛 Wi lngdīng dǎo (closer to Aberdeen Harbour and Lamma Island).

I have not heard reports of WGs at either of these islands previously and I am reasonably certain there are not loads of BBS's (barber shops that don't cut hair) at either island. They are PRC islands and I doubt that Laowai would be able to hire sampan to get to either island from HK.Yes has to be one of these, thank you, Outer Lingding Island perhaps is the one.

WalterWhite
12-01-14, 03:07
It was Wednesday night and Wan Chai seemed pretty quiet. I got to Neptune 3 fairly late around 1 am.

About 15 Filipino girls and 5 white Westerners.

Pretty slow night. Some of the Westerners were dancing with the young girls, but most girls just played on their phones. I ordered a coke (around 60 HKD) since I have already had a lot to drink that night.

The girls would come by my table with the usual questions:

What's your name? Where are you from? How long are you in Hong Kong? Where are you staying in Hong Kong?

We have all heard these questions so many times. Right?

They would come in pairs, and often just flat out ask for drinks after just a few minutes. No lookers, at best 6's and 7's, so I would be polite but eventually chase them away. But then I saw her. A PYT. She said her name was Sella. Blonde / dirty blonde hair, amazing large the natural breasts, very short, in her mid 20 ies age-wise. She was here for 2 weeks from the Philippines. It was already getting late so she quoted me first a 1000 HKD LT. She sat in my lap while we watched a live band, and I eventually agreed on 800 HKD LT (about $100 USD). I also ordered a drink for her. Of course the waitress gave her a voucher to collect her kick-back later on. No surprise there. That is the norm with these drinks, so inquire before what they plan to order since there are different prices / drinks.

I did not feel like going back to my hotel since it is far away. So we decided to go to her place around the corner. Let me just saw that the accommodations were *very* modest. A small room 5 meters x 3 meters. The conditions for these girls on tourist visas are tough. Luckily, her roommate was out.

We each showered (separately since it was a very small bathroom) and then got into her twin-size (single) bed. She gave me a great BBBJ while watching herself in the mirror (almost porn star like experience. It was very sexy). It is almost as she was practicing the skill. After that the condom comes on and we go to CG. It was a very hot experience and it did not take long for me to cum. Of course, since this is a LT, I am entitled to a second pop (tip: negotiate this ahead of time when agreeing on price! But it has been a long day, and I just called it a day giving her 800 HKD at the end. Great girl and great experience 9/10, I hope some of you will find her.

Brown Rail
12-01-14, 08:16
The Shooter has a 1-day stopover 11 am Sunday to 8 am Monday. Planning to try the DH scene in Wanchai.

Plenty of info via RTFF and Google, but is it up to date? Recent reports suggest that many DHs have cottoned on to the possibility of getting paid while having fun!

Any tips from seasoned members? Slight preference for non-Fili because next stop is Angeles! FR to follow.Hi Shooter,

I am not sure which Sunday / Monday, perhaps you have come and gone.

The site is pretty up to date, though experiences and opinions vary. First, in the morning and early afternoon you can head to Bar 109; it hops till about 4 pm. If you have not been there before, don't worry when you feel a hand in your pocket, she is not looking for your wallet, she is checking your other valuables. Say "Hi" and start dancing. It is mostly Indonesians. Most either want to drink / play or will go with a tourist / business man for $500 short time to nearby Ming Court Hotel. I have seen some order expensive bar-girl drinks, but most just want a beer. Do be careful that you order her drink, don't let her be the one to order from the waitress. And the waitresses are on their side.

Afterwards, you can check out Queen Victoria. For a few hours. Most women are there are just for fun. Not so much looking to make money. If you are good looking or golden tongued many are free, they just like fun too. A mix of Indonesians and Filipinas. My experience is that Indonesians have a surprisingly relaxed attitude about sex, they like to have fun and if they like you are really game. I don't believe that Queen Vic offers bar girl drinks.

Around 4 pm girls start flowing into Makati and Hong Kong Café. I think Makati is about 70% Indonesians, HK Café about 70% Filipinas. Until about 9 pm, most are there for fun, not for profit. Both bars do offer bar-girl drinks, but on Sundays it is pretty rare for a girl, except some of the hard cores at the bar itself in both places. Most just want to dance, enjoy their off day. And if they meet a nice guy, they are so happy.

Around 6, the band at Insiders comes on. Then the crowed there swells, mostly with Filipinas. Again, rarely would a girl ask for a bar-girl drink on Sunday. If you have the right look / talk, you can definitely get laid gratis. Some girls will be insulted if you offer money, a few might be happy.

If you like to watch a parade, grab an outside table at Sticky fingers. Lots of girls will walk by, and are happy to stop and chat.

Bottom line is that you don't have to pay on Sundays, but it can work. Be sensitive, I would be aggressive about asking your girl out – you don't have a lot of time – but wait for her to ask for money. Most DHs don't look for it and some will be upset that you think they are working girls. (Then they will walk over to me and tell me what a jerk you were.).

Around 9 pm the working girls come back, tough there are still some DHs there till about 11 pm.

Enjoy!

Brown Rail
12-01-14, 10:13
I have been yesterday for the first time at Neptune, HK caf, etc.

At the beginning, it felt nice to be surrounded by cute young girls (most of them). After the third round of drinks for all, the fun stops and it becomes seriously annoying. 150 HKD for a drink, times the number of girls, times the number of rounds and it can quickly escalate to a considerable amount.

I do not wonder any more why most do not want to come back to your hotel (for less than a ludicrous price): they probably make more money with drink commission than ST / LT. Most seem actually to enjoy the attention, it's like a never-ending party.

It certainly beats my cubicle job, apart for the occasional business trip.

It's a business, so next time I will not hesitate to turn down the 'buy me a drink' herd. Sorry, I go to these places to have fun and I didn't have much yesterday (unless you call fun spending 1,000 HKD / HR for 'talking' to girls).

FYI I have been told regular price is HKD 3,000 (by many, like if they created a cartel or something) but freelancers still sometimes appear and can be taken out for 1-2,000 HKD (ST, but also LT).

I did ended up going back home with one of these freelancers, at 5 am and after negotiating 1,500 for the rest of the night. Sex was passionate, but I realized I spent 3,000+ for it! Dundas budget for a whole week of fun.

Yes, here I am, about to go there again. More later.I am glad you enjoyed, and feel your frustration.

You can simply say no when they ask for a drink, or better still ask what they drink. Tell them you are not their ATM. You would be happy to buy them a normal drink, but not a bar-girl drink. After all, a bar girl drink is simply taking money out of your pocket and putting into her's. Often for sugar water. With the bar taking a commission. "I am not your ATM".

The real hard core girls will leave. The others will likely respect you for it. You can even tell them you are happy to pay them for long time but not for silly drinks, cutting to the chase.

ThedStar143
12-01-14, 14:22
Hi,

This was my first ever trip Hong Kong. I first wanted to try one woman places, but could not understand, how to enter the buildings, they look so residential and I see no one coming in or going out from those places as mentioned in the websites. Any ways wanted to try 37 Dundas, but the place was full. So was roaming around and find this wai wah building in nearby Portland street. Entered the lift, saw the ad of different saunas, preferred 4th floor. Entered the spa, he said flat 650 HKD. I said OK. Took shower entered a dark room with massage bed and dim red light. Then comes the girl, rather lady, but she had a very smooth fair skin (aged around 33). I was enjoying the skin touch and this made me much hornier and slid on the rubber for the deed. Wanted to DFK, but she didn't allow. I found out she was Hong Kong local Cantonese woman. Anyways I had great pleasure and confessed your my first Hong Kong lady I ever had. She felt happy. I don't think there was any place for tips as I left all my belongings in locker. Hence had a great hug and said Good Bye.

Rocky

Viajando Musico
12-02-14, 01:55
Going to Escape bar tonight with the intention of finding a Latina or Non Asian. I am not familiar with the Wan Chai scene. Any suggestions for not overpaying, ST and LT?

Koliflaver
12-02-14, 05:21
Hello everyone,

I will be passing thru HK on 7th December night (staying at Wanchai) and then again on 10th December (probably will stay around Wanchai / Causeway Bay). I don't really enjoy going to the mongering joints alone, so if any member is around town on those dates, please PM me and we can go out together for a couple of Beers. Please note I am 40, so the younger guys on the forum might find me to be a bit old.

Cheers

MvuLane
12-02-14, 09:51
I am glad you enjoyed, and feel your frustration.

You can simply say no when they ask for a drink, or better still ask what they drink. Tell them you are not their ATM. You would be happy to buy them a normal drink, but not a bar-girl drink. After all, a bar girl drink is simply taking money out of your pocket and putting into her's. Often for sugar water. With the bar taking a commission. "I am not your ATM".

The real hard core girls will leave. The others will likely respect you for it. You can even tell them you are happy to pay them for long time but not for silly drinks, cutting to the chase.Hi Brown Rail,

Thanks for the advice, I 'll have to agree with you because that's what happened.

I think I was just taken by surprise the first time, I just did not expect the drinks to cost so much and the girls (some of them) to be so pushy. Some left as soon as the flow of money stopped. It was a WTF moment I'll never forget!!

Anyway, despite the first bad impression and the fact that I was HKD 3,000 down on the first night, I decided to give it another try. Never stop believing!

So I went there last Friday, sat at the bar looking for a nice looking gal. Before I could even order a drink I was already surrounded by 'buy-me-a-drink' ladies (rule #1: the uglier the pushier). I refused politely to pay them a bar-girl drink and. Most left, but those who stayed turned out to be super friendly, good looking. Basically hot girls looking for some fun in HK!

Did not take any home (yet) but exchanged numbers & FB with a few (definitely 8+, at least in my scale).

Oh, I actually offered to buy something to them at some point; guess what, they asked for (cheap) food instead of tequila! Second night: less than HKD 500 (including my beers), a helluva night and 3 contacts for next time.

Weben
12-02-14, 10:09
You shouldn't need to pay more than 1,000 HK for short term. The girls tend to ask a lot more, $2 K usually. You can find Russian women on call (hotel) for just under 1 k.


Going to Escape bar tonight with the intention of finding a Latina or Non Asian. I am not familiar with the Wan Chai scene. Any suggestions for not overpaying, ST and LT?

Chantik
12-02-14, 17:36
There is a difference between a resident of Hk who gets to know the the / H in WANCHAI over a period of time, who may have bought the lady a number of drinks over the journey. And may be able to offer something in the long term, compared to a tourist who is visiting for one day.

The DH's will quickly work out if you are a visitor (unless you have a good story) and you will be charged.

A visitor getting a free DH on Sunday will be a lucky man.

NOZ2215
12-03-14, 01:46
I for one do not throw as much money as Bill Crosby but I do expect service. Glad you found your gem. Some of the girls can be very sweet and know how to play you like a fiddle!Yes, a very late reply as I've been travelling non stop for the last few weeks, anyway I not sure how much money Bill Crosby throws around but I'm guessing buy you comment it's a lot more than most of us. We all except good service but as "Jackthelad2" often says in he's reports is about building a connection with the girl, sometimes that requires having a few drinks with them, not there 10 friends.

My little Gem and I are working out pretty well, I'm sure if your comment about being played like a fiddle was directed at her or just a general comment, from my own experience I not only been the fiddle but every other instrument in the orchestra also, mostly my own stupidity of being blinded by a very pretty face (and great body), do I feel cheated by girls no, I was the one who let myself get in the situation and I look back and laugh about it today.

I see many guys over the last few weeks are complaining about buying expensive drinks for the girls, I can understand but just say no it's that simple, the girls aren't twisting your arm, also remember most of the girls who come over to HK the first time are told by there friends that they can make plenty of money just drinking with guys, they soon find out that there is much more to it.

Just enjoy yourselves with your own budget. Happy Hunting.

Weben
12-03-14, 03:47
There is a difference between a resident of Hk who gets to know the the / H in WANCHAI over a period of time, who may have bought the lady a number of drinks over the journey. And may be able to offer something in the long term, compared to a tourist who is visiting for one day.

The DH's will quickly work out if you are a visitor (unless you have a good story) and you will be charged.

A visitor getting a free DH on Sunday will be a lucky man.I recently met a woman from Indonesia working in a restaurant and we met for lunch during the week when she had a day off. We chatted a bit after that after that and I was looking to met her again. I suggested we have lunch again during her next day off, and I suggested a hotel as my apartment is small (that and I don't want her to know where I live). She replied that she would come to my apartment and that I should give her the money I save on getting a hotel room. So, even the casual non domestic helpers might expect something.

In my experience, there are only two women who won't expect anything. First, the casual hookup at LKF with a working professional (some still go there for a one-night stand), or SOHO. Second, a Chinese woman looking for a relationship or committed partner. The latter takes a little more time, but I have met a few educated, professional women looking for a steady sex partner. However, this is probably only feasible if you are 30's-40's and in relatively good shape and don't mind a woman also in her 30's-40's.

ThedStar143
12-03-14, 05:32
Hi.

I finally visited 37 the on Sunday, but what do I see, most of the girls are MILF, no young girls. After changing 2 ladies, had to settle with a lady for 650 HKD flat. Once we go upstairs, she take room from a counter girl and these rooms can be used by anyone for a price. Many locals had sweet girls in their arms entering the rooms (a very jealous feeling). Anyways once we enter room, go to birthday suits and she was trying to turn me on with horny words. But some how I entered her pumping and during the deed I found at that she is above 40 years and she had a 17 year old boy. I don't if its her loose pussy or these words. I don't like doing the deed. I took an excuse and left the scene. I don't know if I entered the wrong time or what, but it was a bad day. Moral of the story. I don't like MILF.

Rocky.

Brown Rail
12-04-14, 04:38
Hi Brown Rail,

Thanks for the advice, I 'll have to agree with you because that's what happened.

I think I was just taken by surprise the first time, I just did not expect the drinks to cost so much and the girls (some of them) to be so pushy. Some left as soon as the flow of money stopped. It was a WTF moment I'll never forget!!

Anyway, despite the first bad impression and the fact that I was HKD 3,000 down on the first night, I decided to give it another try. Never stop believing!

So I went there last Friday, sat at the bar looking for a nice looking gal. Before I could even order a drink I was already surrounded by 'buy-me-a-drink' ladies (rule #1: the uglier the pushier). I refused politely to pay them a bar-girl drink and. Most left, but those who stayed turned out to be super friendly, good looking. Basically hot girls looking for some fun in HK!

Did not take any home (yet) but exchanged numbers & FB with a few (definitely 8+, at least in my scale).

Oh, I actually offered to buy something to them at some point; guess what, they asked for (cheap) food instead of tequila! Second night: less than HKD 500 (including my beers), a helluva night and 3 contacts for next time.That is terrific. It sounds like you are on your way to having an approach that works for you. I have not purchased a bar girl drink. On purpose. In years. If I have a real date, of course I pay. It is only polite. But when I meet someone new that I an interested in, sometimes I buy regular drinks or sometimes I let them keep buying their own. It feels much more normal, like we are getting to know each other. If they are really working, interested in my money, they walk away early. Less invested (money and time), less wasted.

Offering dinner is a great way to take it to the next step. For the price of a lady's drink, you get dinner together, can talk, see her in real light, someone to keep you company, and it moves things along to the next step. Taking them to dinner will set you up really well to take them home or for a date later. Hey Hey, corner of Luard and Lochhart is perfect for this.

So on a typical night, my budget will be for my drinks, and a few for the guys or girl friends. I am not a big drinker. It would be unusual for me to spend more than a few hundred dollars. At this spend rate I have no hesitation going out. If I were spending a few thousand each time I went out, I would have to limited nights out.

A good time can be had in Makati Saturday afternoons. From 4 pm there will be 10-20 DHs, and almost no guys (maybe more after this post). The girls are looking for dance partners, no more, and would love dinner. You can certainly get good phone numbers. If you want to get laid first time, time dinner early as they have curfews. Makati used to give free food on Saturdays, but sadly no more. But it is happy hour, so drinks are $25-35. Anyway, it is a bit quiet, but nice way to spend a lazy Saturday afternoon.

Brown Rail
12-04-14, 05:06
I recently met a woman from Indonesia working in a restaurant and we met for lunch during the week when she had a day off. We chatted a bit after that after that and I was looking to met her again. I suggested we have lunch again during her next day off, and I suggested a hotel as my apartment is small (that and I don't want her to know where I live). She replied that she would come to my apartment and that I should give her the money I save on getting a hotel room. So, even the casual non domestic helpers might expect something.

In my experience, there are only two women who won't expect anything. First, the casual hookup at LKF with a working professional (some still go there for a one-night stand), or SOHO. Second, a Chinese woman looking for a relationship or committed partner. The latter takes a little more time, but I have met a few educated, professional women looking for a steady sex partner. However, this is probably only feasible if you are 30's-40's and in relatively good shape and don't mind a woman also in her 30's-40's.It is interesting. You described one relationship that did not go exactly as you would like. I think one aspect you might consider is having parallel efforts. DHs are only off one day a week. Even ones who live out are not always available. If you have only one relationship at a time you will find yourself alone a lot. So you need to have a few GFs to fill your week. A rotation.

I find that if I just date a woman here, you don't have to be pushy about sex. If she is not ready, my next date will be. If you feel they want it, by all means go for it. But on or about the third date, they all become really aggressive.

The other reason is that they are a bit unreliable. Ok, no surprise. Filipino time. So they are often late or don't show up at all. Always with a good reason. So I will often have a number of conversions going at the same time. If you make a date to see three woman on a Saturday or Sunday, it is likely that at least one will show up. Maybe this is a bit exaggerated. But the lesson is to make a number of plans and then be fluid. Most of the time you will be fine, having at least one great date. Sometimes you will need to slide one a bit later. Some times, even with three, none will show. Make sure that you schedule them at different but nearby places. And it is often good to keep non-Wanchi girls out of Wanchai. This helps limit collisions.

A warning though. The girls expect this. But they don't like it. You might get called a Wanchai boy or Babarero. Best to be "honest" and not to promise monogamy. Better to refer to your relationship as dating and special. Most will be unhappy at first, but they realize they are not regularly available themselves either, and most come to terms with it.

Lucky 88
12-04-14, 08:46
You shouldn't need to pay more than 1,000 HK for short term. The girls tend to ask a lot more, $2 K usually. You can find Russian women on call (hotel) for just under 1 k.Hi Weben, How do you find the Russians on call for under 1 K? Did you try them?

Weben
12-04-14, 14:43
It is interesting. You described one relationship that did not go exactly as you would like. I think one aspect you might consider is having parallel efforts. DHs are only off one day a week. Even ones who live out are not always available. If you have only one relationship at a time you will find yourself alone a lot. So you need to have a few GFs to fill your week. A rotation.

I find that if I just date a woman here, you don't have to be pushy about sex. If she is not ready, my next date will be. If you feel they want it, by all means go for it. But on or about the third date, they all become really aggressive.

A warning though. The girls expect this. But they don't like it. You might get called a Wanchai boy or Babarero. Best to be "honest" and not to promise monogamy. Better to refer to your relationship as dating and special. Most will be unhappy at first, but they realize they are not regularly available themselves either, and most come to terms with it.My point was, even when you think you might have a freebie, more women seem to be direct about what they want in return; that being some sort of compensation / gifts / etc. The original poster made a comment about domestic helpers realizing they can get a little compensation if they ask, I was just saying it is more than just a DH these says that realizes they can get a little more than just companionship.

I am with you. I never promise love or monogamy unless it is actually there, I am totally up front with women. I had girlfriends in Singapore (flight attendant), Malaysia and Indonesia at the same time and never promised love or marriage. And, I generally do have a few women I chat with regularly, but finding that I have less time to maintain those friendships and get out to meet. I should say, some of my best casual encounters have been here and in Vietnam with nice, attractive educated women just looking for a decent, polite, professional guy near their age. Actually, Viet women can be some of the most conserved in public but amazingly sexual and are still my favorite choice for casual dating.

Weben
12-04-14, 14:44
Hey,

If anyone is in Wan Chai and up for a beer, drop me a message. I am stuck in HK longer than usual and need to get out and have a drink and maybe chat up a few women.

Topnotch100
12-04-14, 17:25
I had a couple of friends telling me that 37 dundas has gone downhill so I didn't visit for a while. I finally decided to try it out again last week and this week and both times were terrible experiences. I mean what the hell happened? Learned my lesson. Will listen to my friends going forward.

So last week, I visited after a long time away. First of all, you can't see the ladies at all under the extremely dark lighting they have inside. The first 4-5 ladies they showed me were hideous so I turned them all away. I finally picked a girl. I can't remember her name. She was OK friendly in the intro room so I picked her. Anyway, we go upstairs and very quickly it became clear that she was trying to delay the session so that our time would ran out. Anyway, just as I was starting to fuck her, the clock ran out and she insisted that I pay up for extra time. Knowing this game, I immediately told her I'm leaving. Anyway. Didn't get to cum and I got dressed quickly and got the fuck out of there.

This week, I was in the area and thought I'd give 37 dundas another try. Thought maybe last week's girl was just a bad exception. After looking at 8 girls, I picked apple, the least bad looking of the 8. She was probably a 6 in the intro room. Once we got upstairs and she got out of her clothes, I felt like she was like a 3-4. Big face. Bad complexion. Belly hanging out. Her tits were her saving grace. Anyway, she was very unenthusiastic and didn't even feign her boredom, told her to just jerk me off and I left quickly afterward. So hope you bros don't come across this working girl. You are forewarned if you do.

This establishment is on its way out clearly. Save your time and money.

Lucky 88
12-05-14, 04:13
I had a similar experience in K-Pressure at the beginning of this year. Bad choices of ladies, when I asked if they had any better quality the mamasan replied they do not have young girls. The lady I picked did not turn me on very much once we were in the room, she made loud fake moans as soon as we started and pretended to come within one minute. In the end I just left.


I had a couple of friends telling me that 37 dundas has gone downhill so I didn't visit for a while. I finally decided to try it out again last week and this week and both times were terrible experiences. I mean what the hell happened? Learned my lesson. Will listen to my friends going forward.

So last week, I visited after a long time away. First of all, you can't see the ladies at all under the extremely dark lighting they have inside. The first 4-5 ladies they showed me were hideous so I turned them all away. I finally picked a girl. I can't remember her name. She was OK friendly in the intro room so I picked her. Anyway, we go upstairs and very quickly it became clear that she was trying to delay the session so that our time would ran out. Anyway, just as I was starting to fuck her, the clock ran out and she insisted that I pay up for extra time. Knowing this game, I immediately told her I'm leaving. Anyway. Didn't get to cum and I got dressed quickly and got the fuck out of there.

This week, I was in the area and thought I'd give 37 dundas another try. Thought maybe last week's girl was just a bad exception. After looking at 8 girls, I picked apple, the least bad looking of the 8. She was probably a 6 in the intro room. Once we got upstairs and she got out of her clothes, I felt like she was like a 3-4. Big face. Bad complexion. Belly hanging out. Her tits were her saving grace. Anyway, she was very unenthusiastic and didn't even feign her boredom, told her to just jerk me off and I left quickly afterward. So hope you bros don't come across this working girl. You are forewarned if you do.

This establishment is on its way out clearly. Save your time and money.

Uncle Junior
12-05-14, 18:38
That is terrific. It sounds like you are on your way to having an approach that works for you. I have not purchased a bar girl drink. On purpose. In years. If I have a real date, of course I pay. It is only polite. But when I meet someone new that I an interested in, sometimes I buy regular drinks or sometimes I let them keep buying their own. It feels much more normal, like we are getting to know each other. If they are really working, interested in my money, they walk away early. Less invested (money and time), less wasted.

Offering dinner is a great way to take it to the next step. For the price of a lady's drink, you get dinner together, can talk, see her in real light, someone to keep you company, and it moves things along to the next step. Taking them to dinner will set you up really well to take them home or for a date later. Hey Hey, corner of Luard and Lochhart is perfect for this.

So on a typical night, my budget will be for my drinks, and a few for the guys or girl friends. I am not a big drinker. It would be unusual for me to spend more than a few hundred dollars. At this spend rate I have no hesitation going out..I have not been to HK yet, but expect to visit in January and would like to ask and learn from other's experiences. When in Shanghai, I have been to girl bars, and as others have said, you feel like the ATM with a bunch of pushy girls asking you to buy them drinks. Like others have said, it goes from expensive girl drinks to shots of tequila.

I have offered to just pay the girls $300-500 RMB to hang out if they would stop pushing to buy the drinks. I was very surprised that they refused. Now I realize that in the bars in Shanghai I was at they actually work for the bar, where it sounds like these girls in HK are freelancers.

Has anyone done this in HK? Do you think these SYTs would be welcome for being compensated directly for their time in the bar rather than indirectly through pushing you to buy overpriced drinks, which they don't really want anyway. Of course the bar would not be happy about this.

Any feedback or comments would be appreciated.

Uncle Junior.

MvuLane
12-06-14, 11:46
I have not been to HK yet, but expect to visit in January and would like to ask and learn from other's experiences. When in Shanghai, I have been to girl bars, and as others have said, you feel like the ATM with a bunch of pushy girls asking you to buy them drinks. Like others have said, it goes from expensive girl drinks to shots of tequila.

I have offered to just pay the girls $300-500 RMB to hang out if they would stop pushing to buy the drinks. I was very surprised that they refused. Now I realize that in the bars in Shanghai I was at they actually work for the bar, where it sounds like these girls in HK are freelancers.

Has anyone done this in HK? Do you think these SYTs would be welcome for being compensated directly for their time in the bar rather than indirectly through pushing you to buy overpriced drinks, which they don't really want anyway. Of course the bar would not be happy about this.

Any feedback or comments would be appreciated.

Uncle Junior.I do not think that'll work in HK. I asked a few if they wanted to go to another bar for a "gift" and they said they cannot, the "manager" won't allow it. I think there's a gentlemen's agreement among bar owners in the area (if not an actual contract) whereby girls get drink commission only from one bar, the one they "work" for. Technically they are all freelancers; in practice, they are employees.

I was at Crazy Horse one night and there was one girl I liked, but the place was otherwise terrible and totally empty. I asked the girl if she wanted to go to Escape, she said either I pay the fee to take her home or I stay there (I refused and left).

I later saw the same girl with a friend, they were sitting some 25-30 meters from the entrance of the bar; they asked me straight away: don't go to CH, just take us home.

In hindsight, I should have take them, or one of them, and I feel I should share an advice with yall: if you want to quickly take a girl out from a Wan Chai bar go to the lamest, most empty ones. Girls will be much more willing to be taken home there where the bar-girl commissions are not flowing like in successful bars like HK cafe, Neptune, etc.

How did I not think of that before. Silly me.

Got to be for the next time I'm in HK!

Chantik
12-06-14, 13:20
I have not been to HK yet, but expect to visit in January and would like to ask and learn from other's experiences. When in Shanghai, I have been to girl bars, and as others have said, you feel like the ATM with a bunch of pushy girls asking you to buy them drinks. Like others have said, it goes from expensive girl drinks to shots of tequila.

I have offered to just pay the girls $300-500 RMB to hang out if they would stop pushing to buy the drinks. I was very surprised that they refused. Now I realize that in the bars in Shanghai I was at they actually work for the bar, where it sounds like these girls in HK are freelancers.

Has anyone done this in HK? Do you think these SYTs would be welcome for being compensated directly for their time in the bar rather than indirectly through pushing you to buy overpriced drinks, which they don't really want anyway. Of course the bar would not be happy about this.

Any feedback or comments would be appreciated.

Uncle Junior.I doubt this will work because when the lady is at the bar she always has a chance to go with a guy. Why accept $300 from a guy to hang around when there is a chance to get 1, 2 or 3 K from a guy for a visit to the hotel.

You'd be better to go to a non worker girl bar.

Uncle Junior
12-06-14, 15:49
I doubt this will work because when the lady is at the bar she always has a chance to go with a guy. Why accept $300 from a guy to hang around when there is a chance to get 1, 2 or 3 K from a guy for a visit to the hotel.

You'd be better to go to a non worker girl bar.Thank you Chantik and Mvulane for continuing my education.

Chantik- I guess I should have been more clear on the end game. The $200-$300 fee would be just to compensate her directly for the money I would be dumping on lady drinks. I still would have every intention of negotiating a trip to the hotel if we were enjoying each other company.

Also, does the bar get a bar fine if you leave with the girl or are you just negotiating directly with her and she will keep all the fee? I was under the assumption the ladies are freelancers and they aren't kicking back to the bar or I don't have to pay the bar directly for anything other than my drink tab.

Thanks in advance.

Uncle Junior.

Charles Dickin
12-06-14, 19:23
Have been planning this trip for long time. Have read the forum and everything. Some posts two times. I have no problem learning stuff from reading but as you will see I have problem remembering it in the field. I'd like to be Natty Bumpo but don't think I can but will try. I have questions and need advice but from what I;ve seen newbies posting only questions can be unpopular. So rookie report coming up with some questions inside.

Had booked flight carefully although a little more expensive but arriving late afternoon so could check in, go out, have body slide, eat, and sleep ready for day 2. Perfect! Trip started bad with cancellations and delays so arrived very early on the third morning after 2 days without sleep. Took 3 hours from airport to hotel due to tiredness and travel sickness and confusion with trains, name of subway station, names of roads, directions, traffic, tall buildings blocking the view, tall people blocking the view, short people blocking sidewalks, big buses blocking roads, that sort of thing.

Was still up for a body slide as thought it would fix all my body problems in one session. Stiff neck, stiff back, stiff erm, ahem. Have been wanting to body slide for ever. Had read about Dundas 37. Two places in one so originally thinking might do the double. Was stressing what floor to do first in case have to walk past first place with lady from the other place.

After eventually checking in checked forum for directions and found new reports saying Dundas is now Grade the. Heart sank. Had even thought maybe K Pressure as backup but more fresh reports saying crap and middle aged, like me.

I panic easily and hadn't anticpated Dundas problems. Kinda wishing now I had gone to Bangkok instead. I had expected my Sunday afternoon and night planned for FL finding going wrong but not body slide on day 1 which was now day 3 already. As emergency measure decided to try 141 which had been original day 2 plan. But nearly everyone is phone appointment. I hadn't got a phone yet. Decided to leave own phone at home accidentally on purpose for security reasons. Ok so thought I'd check out a walk up online. But looked on website and couldn't find any one walk upthat definitely aroused interest.

I had read that Phoenix Apartments and Fuji Building have many opportunities but according to 141 website there are little. So am confused. Do any experienced hands reading this know the real situation?

Spent so long looking at 141 web that it was now way way past lunch time and was too tired and weak. So tried to sleep for a few hours but the curtains always have a gap. Didn't bring hammer and nails because I thought the airline might not like it so stuck with gappy curtains. Should have kept the sleeping mask.

Somehow despite being super tired, I managed not to sleep. Fail. Maybe I was distraught about long held Plan Body Slide and panicking about Plan be. So after wasting more hours not sleeping and more time not knowing how to fix things decided to go to Wan Chai. I've heard about a Filipino place with good food. Thought that might be a good place to start with Filipinas. Food was good and place full of what I assume to be Filipino families. The people next to me where Chinese maybe Hong Kong I don't know how to tell. I do know that mainland Chinese think of it as one country but people from Hong Kong feel they are Hong Kong not Chinese. I think I'm right. Any ways the guy kept touching my leg with his. I was too nervous to tell him it wasn't his girlfriends. I assume that's what he meant to do. I'm kind of prone to panick. Do any experienced hands reading this know how to break it gently to a guy that that's still your leg not his girlfriends? Not my night. I decided neither he nor his girlfriend were my type, her legs were too hairy, so I tried to pay and leave. I TOLD my credit card company that I was going abroad. But the card was declined. How embarrasing. Lucky I had just enough cash. I was surprised that Filipino food was so expensive. Maybe because it's Hong Kong. Any more expensive and it would be cheaper to commute to the Philippines to eat right?

Food was enjoyable, company so far less so. Walked around and around and around and around trying to decide where to go. I couldn't remember reading anything about the places with curtains. Finally decided I probably couldn't afford them. After 3 laps of Lockhart and Jaffe I finally decided on Hong Kong Cafe. Somehow panicked at the door and walked about a lot more and finally finally decided on New Makati instead. Was trying to enter but got pounced on by pushy shouty woman from curtain club next door. Bottled it and walked away leaving Mrs Mouth shouting after me. Not sure what she shouted. Reading you guys reports on here it all seems to easy but not for me. But we're all beginners to start with right guys?

Did another 2 laps full of Lockhart and Jaffe including a clever figure of 8 movement. That was unplanned just a panick attack crossing the road and turning back to avoid angry beeping taxi driver. Managed to approach New Makati from the other direction and used a large drunk man as a shield to hide from Mrs Pushy. He was also trying to get into New Makati. I don't think security saying no mattered because I don't think he could have climbed all the stairs any ways. I sure wasn't going to carry him over the threshold. I did that once with a girlfriend years ago and bashed her head on the door frame, backed up tried again and this time hit her feet. So some improvement second attempt. Had a similar problem with inner door but this time somehow managed to hit her knees. Never figured out how I did that and never did see her again. And after all the painkillers I gave her. Ah such memories.

Sorry, where was I? Oh yeah, Makati. I couldn't get between Drunken Sailor and the security box so had to risk going around him and between him and Mrs Next Door. Easier said than done. I never knew drunk people could stagger so much side to side and stay standing. Do any clever people reading this know how that is done? On third attempt made it past drunk man and security man gave me stern look. Brief moment of panic but was waved through. I went past quickly, probably out of panic.

Yes! Success! Climbed the stairway to heaven and went in. Was now looking forward to the Natty Bumpo experience where a gaggle of gorgeous girls approach and throw themselves at you.

The place was not busy so no welcoming committee. I had a quick look but didn't see any ladies that I would want to carry over the threshold for one night only, door frames allowing. But I can hardly see anyway so could have been wrong. Walked to the bar scanning left and right. This is mainly to avoid tripping over something but also to scout. I was trying to be subtle. I think it worked because nobody seemed to notice me. Just as I got to the bar the lights went up and the music went down. Didn't remember tripping on any power cables so hoped it wasn't me. But this did make ordering the drink much easier. Definitely no problem ordering a drink with no ice. No need because the place itself is like an ice box. Bar lady apologised for the high visibility situation but I was happy. Could order drink and actually see talent. Unfortunately no talent in sight range but for once getting the drink I ordered as I ordered it was a bonus for me. Normally this is a problem. It surprisingly difficult to get a drink with out ice in the modern world.

Right back to Makati. Lights went down, music went up and I'd just bought the world's most expensive drink. At first I thought I'd heard wrong because I'm a bit deaf. But on the third time of asking she wrote it down. Unfortunately too small to read with what's left of my eye sight but by now she was angry enough to shout over the music so I handed over a million and twenty bucks and retreated to the far end of the room for safety. For anyone doing research I can say that a small chest does not mean lady cannot shout loud.

Made a second lap of the dance floor but legs were hurting from all the walking earlier. So decided to sit down. Sat ina corner away from the music but couldn't see anything except another sad looking solo guy like me opposite. Not the one in the mirror! Him too though. Felt very cold after just a few seconds sitting. There were two girls sitting diag opposite and they stood up. I was hoping the Natty Bumpo experience was about to begin. They put their coats on which I thought was sensible given the weather. Then they left.

I then made my first sensible decision for the night. Went and sat where they had been for the warmth left in the seats. Normally hate that on buses but tonight was already under emergency measures.

Do any clever people reading this know why New makati is like an ice box? Is it to make people dance more or cuddle more or sell more coffee? Maybe they sell zip up wooly tops with their logo. There's a market for them.

I sat and waited for my drink to melt a bit so I could get it up the straw without sounding like an industrial suction pump. There were few girls and only one not cuddling a guy. I can't see so well but I had a feeling she was Latina going by the pronounced shapes. She was wearing clothes that were too small for her size which emphasised her belly. Not a good look. She also had some kind of cape thing. Is anyone else here old enough to remember the old Batman? Like that but in white and wider and shorter. Some time later she did approach me although I actually think she was just coming out of the rest room. But I didn't want to be Robin to her batman so I politely ignored her. Now I feel I was maybe rude but I was a bit panicked at the time. It's a running theme.

Before brushing off batgirl there was a point when two other girls came in. One was wearing shorts made for someone smaller although the bouncing effect when she danced was kinda interesting. I was trying not to look because I felt I was being rude. My female friends encourage me never to look below the neck line. This they say is the right way to go about complimenting a lady. I think secretly ladies must like it when someone tells them they've got great breasts or a beautiful butt. Butt maybe they only like such compliments from another woman. I don't know. Does any one here more knowlegeable know?

Bouncing Bombs girl friend was elegantly dressed and was the only one of interest so far. I didn't want to spend another million dollars on another drink so I thought I'd better go for it now. Strange motivation I suppose but desperite times. As I was thinking about what Mr Bumpo would do, Miss Elegant glided into the middle of the dance floor. She then reappeared shortly by being shoved backwards by Very Tall Mr Very Very Angry. He had her arm twisted up her back and was hustled her all the way to the door. Now it was other people's turn to panic. It's very contagious.

Is anyone here old enough to remember the first original Star Wars? This was like the scene in the cantina though with less strange looking drinkers. Within a few seconds of the fight disappearing through the door everyone went on as if nothing had happened. I've led a sheltered life so maybe this is normal.

As my only possible target had now been thrown out I thought I should leave too. Then quite a few girls arrived and some looked very hot. Natty Bumpo Experience here I come! Then the guys they were with followed them in. Fail. The same thing happened again a few minutes later. I stood around in a few places had to keep walking around every few minutes. Mainly to keep warm but also because taller people kept standing in the way. Tall people reading this please be more considerate. I am tall too just not as tall as you.

At some point the lights came on again and the music stopped. Girls started grabbing their coats but there was no stampede. After a few minutes it went back to noisy darkness and the coats came off. Does anyone know what that was about? Is it some kind of emergency drill to make sure people can dress quickly enough if there's a sudden ice storm?

I did see four girls I liked and three others I nearly liked and two I really really liked. But they were all with someone. Seeing how attractive some of them were I thought they could have done better for themselves but maybe they like hopeless guys. Hope so because that's hope for me yet. Two of them were dancing really sexily. Oh, I mean two of the girls not two of the guys. The guys weren't dancing. Just standing there while the girls danced in between their arms and legs and accidentally brushed or banged into them every few seconds. Such carelessness. I think it was deliberate.

There were now so many more bodies in the place that it had warmed up and I'd thawed out enough to start feeling something. But what I was feeling was frustration and probably jealousy. Sorry guys if that was you. It was surprisingly painful watching a couple of girls I was taken with being taken by someone else. I read somewhere recently that with these types of girls you; re not losing your girlfriend, just missing your turn. But I've been out of the dating game for a long time and found it a bit painful. I'm on holiday not in hospital so I decided to leave.

I was thinking of going home but thought I'd give Hong Kong Cafe another go. The nerves of earlier had gone and I breezed in. I was becoming more Nattyer Bumpier by the moment. I had a welcoming chat with an older gentleman who works there. What a job! That's what I want to do when I retire. Surely it's got to be a job where you actually like going to work right?

I decided to order a cheaper drink so the bank wouldn't ring up and complain again. I also didn't think my credit card any more likely to work now than it had earlier. I'm sure I made it clear NO ICE. But what I got was A LOT OF ICE with some liquid filling the few gaps. I sent it back. Do any clever people reading this know if non alcohol drinks really are that expensive or did they make me pay for the one I sent back as well? Is ice now trading more expensive than crude oil?

Only half a million dollars down this time and with another angry bar server notced up I walked towards the dance floor. I immediately saw super sexy short lady. Yes! Instant joy! And then a guy came up to her and started cuddling her. No! Instant sadness!

I did a quick circle but didn't see anyone of interest, well as best as I can see that is. Finding a standing spot was hard because of where every one else was standing. People please be more considerate. Either stand closer together to make more space or stand further apart to make gapes for others. Last night's lot had it all wrong. You couldn't get through or go around.

I had a few attempts at finding a vantage point and accidentally ended up standing near to super sexy short lady. I kept glancing at her subtlely. Mr Cuddles had done but I didn't know where. He might be cuddly but he's also bigger than me. I waited what I was thought was a safe time. Then I edged closer to Sex On Legs Lady. Nice ass ma'am! As she was dancing away she moved closer to me and then spotted me. I didn't panic. Well not too much. I meant to compliment her on her dancing but mistakenly complimented on her body. Not that I didn't mean it, I just didn't mean to say it. At least not out loud in actual words. I was told by female friends that this is not a good opening move. Not my night then.

Anyway she didn't mind if I bought her and her friend a drink. Keen to make amends I agreed. I realised too late that I'd just done exactly what the recent posts on this thread said not to do. Don't let them order their own drinks, waitresses are also in the enemy camp. Too late now. Anyway the drinks were only $160. I was expecting 10 times that. I couldn't hear sexy lady's name over the music. It could have been Sunny. Then again it could have been Cher for all I could hear. She was half naked with a crop top and tasteful flowers tattooed on her left upper arm. Short skirt with just the right amount of material to fill it properly. Same with the crop top though the belly could do with a little restraining. She's from Sumatra with long hair and pouty lips.

Her friend is definitely called Jenny. She has the kind of expensive hair cut that woman think are stylish and men think are too short. It's swept across. I suppose it is stylish but if there are any ladies reading please please please keep your hair long until you need to give your husband grounds for a divorce. Short hair will do it every time. I don't know much about women but I do know you have a different definition of short hair. For women it's Sinead Oconner but for men it's above the shoulder line.

Jenny is from Java. So that's Sunny Sumatra with perfect ass and Jenny Java with perfect boobs. If only you could get the two into one. As you will see, I tried.

Sunny was very forward about asking to go for fun. She's obviously the boss of the pair. Thinking about it now she's probably very pro fessional. I should have realised the warnings from the forum but panick and sexy ladies and expensive drinks do funny things to my heads. At this stage there was also a girl in a slinky black dress doing some pole dancing. This was another distraction and put me in an unfair disadvantage. In the confusing conversation that followed I somehow managed to let them order two more drinks even though the first were barely touched. I don't mind the making money part so much as the wastefulness. There's people short of water in this world. This time it was the older waiter who currently has my future job so I let him have the change. I figured it wasn't going to make much different to me percentage wise and it might encourage him to retire sooner so I can have his job.

I'm not comfortable with choosing people. Never have been. I guess it comes from always being the last to be picked for sports at school. Actually not picked but the last one left. That always hurt my feelings and figured it would hurt someone elses. Besides how do choose between impressive boobs and impressive butt? So I did the sensible thing and asked if both Indonesian islands would be up for international relations. I had to answer a lot of questions about which hotel, how long I'd been in Hong Kong, where I lived, my job. I realise now it was phishing but I didn't give out any passwords or bank accounts details.

Rookie mistake! If any rookies reading this then learn from my mistake. Don't tell them anything. Do any experienced hands reading this know how to have a conversation and make this kind of deal without actually giving up any information?

I failed the next question too. I was asked how much I wanted to pay. I panicked and asked what the charge was. I don't think I could haggle to save my own life. I got quoted $4 thousand for 2 hours. Now there's a reason only half of my friends wear the 'I'm with Stupid' tee shirt. I'm not that stupid all the time. So I laughed. Actually I think I choked but tried to disguise it as a laugh. I cried Too Much! A few years ago I paid a Filipina $1000 for overnight. That's HK dollar from my only other time visiting which was just a few days. Even I'm not that stoopid. But that wasn't a good night either because I spent nearly all of it cleaning up blood from the hotel sheets. Their instruction book said there was a big charge for damaged sheets. Would be cheaper to buy a new bed. How can one petite little lady bleed so much? It wasn't like the condom had any sharp corners. I only even got one and a bit thrusts in before I struck red oil. I think Filipinas call it mens. It was more like all the performers of the Beijing olympics opening ceremony. What a mess. Could have done with all their help cleaning up.

Sorry, where was I? Oh yeah, choking on $4 thousand dollars. I told Boss Sunny about the Filipina for $1 k for all night. I didn't mention the mess because I don't want to go through that again. Sunny was a little bit angry saying That Filipina but we Indonesia. Do any experienced hands reading this know how to tell the difference? I know not everyone might not look stereotypical of their nationality but I think, could be wrong, that Filipinas and Indonesians are different ethnicity.

Right, so I'd made Sunny a bit angry and she wasn't even working behind the bar. Thinking about it she was justified but thinking about it some more maybe she was pretending to make me feel bad and pay more. I don't know. I said 4 too much and I must have looked like I meant it so she offered 3 for 2 hours. I asked if that was in total because I didn't want the same situation as sending the drink back and paying double. Boss Sunny said yes. Feeling things were finally going slightly my way I asked if that was 2 together not tag team. She said ok. I remember Sir Natty's advice about not negotiating because it creates ill feeling. So I thought I had enough of a bargain and agreed. I was also tired and desperate and probably panciking. Oh and a rookie.

You see I thought 2 hours meant 2 hours in or on bed. I didn't expect the clock to start the moment the price was agreed. Do any experienced hands reading this know if that's when the stopwatch starts? It took forever to get a cab. Many drove past but wouldn't stop. Maybe angry taxi driver from earlier had put out an all cars warning for someone answering my description.

Eventually we got to the hotel. I couldn't exactly remember where it was. I knew it was a tall building near a big road. I did know the name but the taxi driver didn't so he rang someone to ask. They didn't know either. I don't speak Chinese but I could tell by the names that he was asking for help. Jenny knew exactly where it was though. So now I was thinking maybe she has done this before like Sunny. Maybe Jenny is the secret boss.

We did eventually get to the hotel and eventually got in through the door. How was I to know I'd been using the back entrance all day? A door is a door to me. The only attention I ever pay to doors is to asses whether its wide enough to carry someone of a carryable weight, so not too tall, through without bashing both ends of the body.

So inside and into the room and off with the clothes and on to the fun.

Anyone more experienced than me, which is probably all of you, will have already guessed this next part. In the end it was tag team one at a time of course. It is safer that way. But for just once before retirement and working as a waiter in HK Cafe I would like to have proper threesome. Any suggestions? I know is risky but as I get older I'm getting more fed up with my always safe life. I think I'm missing out. Maybe it isn't as good as I think it will be. I think over anticipation spoils the actual event. But I keep reading some of your reports and you do seem to have a lot of fun. Yesterday I even read a blog where a guy got two Filipinas for free and threesome and they even bought him a drink.

Well I hope that's ok for a first report. I've given up my Saturday night in Wan Chai to write it instead. I felt a bit nervous about going back. I'm also walking badly because of the 10 k I did round Wan Chai last night and something else that happened today. But that's another report for another day.

JackTheLad2
12-07-14, 00:36
Have been planning this trip for long time. Have read the forum and everything. But that's another report for another day.Well, I hope your other report is a lot shorter than this dribble I have just read, partly out of curiosity.

What a load of rubbish. Do us all a favour and go back home. Are you sure you should be out and about on your own?

Fast Eddie 48
12-07-14, 00:55
Well, I hope your other report is a lot shorter than this dribble I have just read, partly out of curiosity.

What a load of rubbish. Do us all a favour and go back home. Are you sure you should be out and about on your own?To Jackthelad2.

I think Charles just crawl out from his cave if he have so much problem in Hk he cannot survive in other country in Asia, HK is one of the easy country for tourist in Asia most people are friendly and speak English, maybe he should go to China instead don't think he can make it out alive.

Fast eddie 48.

Charles Dickin
12-07-14, 04:50
Sorry guys. Another rookie mistake, first report was.


dribbleAnd.


load of rubbishAgreed! So short version.

After a problematic start made it to Hong Kong cafe and found Indonesian duo. Jenny from Java, busty, short hair. Sunny or similar name, quite busty, great butt, long hair, pouty lips, flower tattoos left shoulder.

Hit me for 2 sets of drinks and quoted me $4000 for 2 hours. I refused and got $3000 second offer. Agreed. On eventually arriving at hotel they got undressed immediately then Sunny asked for money now. Based on forum advice, thank you, I refused and offered taxi money and started getting dressed. Sunny agreed for money later. They were sexy but Sunny maybe too professional for rookie.

Hope that report is short enough. Some short reports have been criticized for lack of detail. Not sure how to get the balance right.

Yes I am just out of my cave. No probably shouldn't be out and about on my own. I know I am not cut out for this type of thing but wanted to try. Reading some reports it all seemed like fun. But I am not a confident person so struggled first time. Not being able to see and hear well makes life more difficult especially in new places. So read the forum as preparation and was grateful for advice. Thought it fair to contribute back but seem to have got that very wrong first post. Very sorry. How does a new poster get started? Is there a template? Looking through the forum I see if you only ask questions you get criticized. I understand that type of post is annoying. If you get the report wrong you get criticized. The criticism of my original post makes sense so I asked for it to be deleted. I hope that's ok. Just trying to break into the circle.

I had two 141 experiences yesterday which were much easier for a rookie. 1 medium, 1 super.

Ikksman
12-07-14, 05:43
Have been planning this trip for long time. Have read the forum and everything. Some posts two times. I have no problem learning stuff from reading but as you will see I have problem remembering it in the field. I'd like to be Natty Bumpo but don't think I can but will try. I have questions and need advice but from what I;ve seen newbies posting only questions can be unpopular. So rookie report coming up with some questions inside. {S N I P} I appreciate that you are trying to write an entertaining post, so thanks for your first effort.

I suggest that you could learn from Natty Bumpo's posts. He really knows how to write lengthy entertaining posts. Read his recent trip reports from PI.

Additionally, your questions and requests for advice will likely go unnoticed in the midst of a very long post.

Don't get discouraged! We all have to learn!

Ikksman

Red Kilt
12-07-14, 11:16
Does anyone have any experiences related to finding Korean girls in HK?

I will be visiting HK soon and I want to try.

I live in Manila and I see so many cute K girls (and some very attractive older women too) around my condo and in the malls but no matter what I do I cannot manage to separate any of them from their K-Pop friends.

They seem to work in groups.

Cannot find anything on the forum.

Melor
12-07-14, 14:09
Have been planning this trip for long time.A lot of funny stuff, I really liked it. Thanks for the report.

Chantik
12-07-14, 16:33
Maybe Dickens is best served by trying agencies or independent escorts.

Chantik
12-07-14, 16:35
Many K Girls work in Australia because the money is good.

Pelon74
12-07-14, 20:42
I had a dream that spend three nights in HK, the first night arrived late night on a Sunday about 12 PM still many expats at the bars, went to the four typical wanchai places, in my opinion only HK cafe and escape are worth of visiting, new makati to loud and neptune 3 to annoying with the pressure to buy drinks.

At the end found a Mongolian girl in escape she was nice she offered me some of her dumplings that she was eating and didn't ask for a drink, we agreed for GFE ST for 1000 K. When we arrived at the hotel she wanted the money in advance and I refused and offer-her some taxi money to go back, I was not going to budge, then she told me that she has been cheated many times and I say so do I, so because it was late and I was tired we agree in a compromise to pay half now and half at the end. In all good GF experience, nice face and boobs but a belly and flat ass.

Next day only wanted a HJ because needed to rest as next day needed to work, went to Kowloon side for hotel and found a massage place that gave regular massage and HJ, paid total of 700 but the girl went nude and gave me a boob massage and HJ, The masseuse ha a pretty face an boobs but a mother body, gave her my whatsaap number and kept texting me for the next 4 days.

It happened that the day I had to work in Shenzhen was also my bday so at night went back to wanchai looking for a girl to spend the whole night until my return flight next day. Again did the rounds and again found my girl in escape, she was a vietnamese and she was dressed very elegant, we started to talk and she said if I buy her a drink and I said I don't buy drinks and she said what do you buy and I said dinner because I was hungry so she goes with me to a thai restaurant, she didn't eat much and aske herd how much for the whole night and she said 2000, I said no way for my bday and said that I will give her 100 which is the amount she will get for two drinks and bye bye, then she said she likes me and will go for 1500 until I leave to airports and full GFE. So we go to hotel, and to my surprise a birthday cake was waiting for me at my room and the girl sang happy bday to me, which was nice situation, the girl was very nice lady, her company was nice and she left as promised.

In conclusion, don't buy drinks to the girls, approach girls that are alone and Asians and avoid makati and neptune and non Asians. And suddenly I wake up wanting to go to Hong Kong but damm it is so far away.

Beijing4987
12-07-14, 21:18
Charles, you made my ignore list. Next time send you post to Penthouse Letters. Do you seriously think you have contributed anything positive to the Hong Kong thread? ISG is about offering information about meeting women for sex!

Melor
12-07-14, 21:30
Interesting to note that posters in this thread were pretty satisfied with K-Pressure and 37 Dundas while recent reports in neighboring one suggest that quality of providers in these establishments has declined and ladies are closer to their 40's and overweighted.

Wonder if it was a matter of each poster's luck or personal taste.

JackTheLad2
12-07-14, 21:40
Maybe Dickens is best served by trying agencies or independent escorts.Trust me Chantik. You don't want to even think of volunteering!

Makeupaname
12-08-14, 02:20
Common guys give Charles a break. His first report on what seems like his very first ever trip abroad.

Charles. No need to panic, or be nervous. Relax you're on vacation. The bar and clubs are there for a reason, and its very normal for a man to enter. You don't need to scout the entrance 2-3, or make laps before entering.

Lakeside
12-08-14, 02:36
In conclusion, don't buy drinks to the girls, approach girls that are alone and Asians and avoid makati and neptune and non Asians. And suddenly I wake up wanting to go to Hong Kong but damm it is so far away.Each one to his own. I have had a great time last weekend in Makati and pulled two nights nice Indonesian DH for overnight at 1200 HKD each. It is just a matter of smart negotiations and not letting junior doing the haggling!

Idler31
12-08-14, 04:02
After a problematic start made it to Hong Kong cafe and found Indonesian duo. Jenny from Java, busty, short hair. Sunny or similar name, quite busty, great butt, long hair, pouty lips, flower tattoos left shoulder.
Charles, I think from your vivid description that Jenny Java might be a regular semi-freebie that I've been servicing for some time. Name and location are right. Short hair, busty.... If only I could PM you, I'd send a photo for your comparison. She's much cheaper if you catch her during the day. If it's the same one, I get two hours of very decent service in return for a meal and a shopping trip. Never costs me more than $800 a time.

Pipe Layer99
12-08-14, 05:13
Sorry guys. Another rookie mistake, first report was. ..........
Agreed! So short version.
Hope that report is short enough. Some short reports have been criticized for lack of detail. Not sure how to get the balance right.
Yes I am just out of my cave. No probably shouldn't be out and about on my own. I know I am not cut out for this type of thing but wanted to try. Reading some reports it all seemed like fun. But I am not a confident person so struggled first time. Not being able to see and hear well makes life more difficult especially in new places. So read the forum as preparation and was grateful for advice. Thought it fair to contribute back but seem to have got that very wrong first post. Very sorry. How does a new poster get started? Is there a template? Looking through the forum I see if you only ask questions you get criticized. I understand that type of post is annoying. If you get the report wrong you get criticized. The criticism of my original post makes sense so I asked for it to be deleted. I hope that's ok. Just trying to break into the circle.
You will develop your own style of writing and reporting. Just post what you want, when you feel like you want to contribute. You can read some other posts to give you an idea of what information is of value. Things such as where you found the lady, her looks, her performance, and price are important (the other details are up to you). You can also ignore some of the critics. And they can choose to skip over your posts if they don't want to read it. Some criticism might serve a new guy well, but take from it what you want and ignore the ones that are not helpful to you. We were all rookies in the past.

Get out and enjoy yourself. You went all the way to China for fun, so get at it.

FreebieFan
12-08-14, 07:22
Get out and enjoy yourself. You went all the way to China for fun, so get at it.China. ? I thought he went to HK. LOL. For some its China for others its HK.

In Taiwan vbe careful how you describe the same situation, they are very sensitive about that in some southern cities.

Charles, good on ya. Totally different "boy in the woods" style to the usual. Was good for a first report, but I hope you get the lay of the land soon. And get laid!

Ikksman
12-08-14, 07:53
China. ? I thought he went to HK. LOL. For some its China for others its HK.
In Taiwan vbe careful how you describe the same situation, they are very sensitive about that in some southern cities.
Charles, good on ya. Totally different "boy in the woods" style to the usual. Was good for a first report, but I hope you get the lay of the land soon. And get laid!I think he could develop into a Natty Bumpo Jr. What do you reckon?

Ikksman
"No need to expose fools. They expose themselves!"

Red Kilt
12-08-14, 09:33
Many K Girls work in Australia because the money is good.Yes I have heard that's true Chantik but most are on "student visas" and they run the risk of getting found out because there is a quite tight monitoring system in Australia.

I live and work in Manila and move around SE Asia including to HK so that's why I asked specifically about HK.

Ramn HK
12-08-14, 10:53
According to the staff at K-Pressure, they are about the service and not the looks. A visitor friend of mine was there 2 months back and reported crap service back then. Last week he went there again and had the time of his life. As for 37 Dundas, there are two places there. One on the first and one on the second floor. The one on the second floor I am told has older providers. Reports on local forums have some good things to say about some of the providers in these two places. There are however providers who prefer against being with a Westerner and this may affect the choices available to non Chinese.


Interesting to note that posters in this thread were pretty satisfied with K-Pressure and 37 Dundas while recent reports in neighboring one suggest that quality of providers in these establishments has declined and ladies are closer to their 40's and overweighted.

Wonder if it was a matter of each poster's luck or personal taste.

Pelon74
12-08-14, 13:31
Agree with your point, for me makati is to laud to stay there long time and the days and times I went there were no toy hardcore Indonesian.


Each one to his own. I have had a great time last weekend in Makati and pulled two nights nice Indonesian DH for overnight at 1200 HKD each. It is just a matter of smart negotiations and not letting junior doing the haggling!

Brown Rail
12-08-14, 13:45
Have been planning this trip for long time. Have read the forum and everything. Some posts two times. I have no problem learning stuff from reading but as you will see I have problem remembering it in the field. I'd like to be Natty Bumpo but don't think I can but will try. I have questions and need advice but from what I;ve seen newbies posting only questions can be unpopular. So rookie report coming up with some questions inside...That's so funny. Finally someone who really writes.

Chantik
12-08-14, 14:50
I actually dropped into Makati last night about 9 pm. It was busy, the busiest since last month. Guys outnumbered the women. Good for the women.

Chantik
12-08-14, 14:52
Yes I have heard that's true Chantik but most are on "student visas" and they run the risk of getting found out because there is a quite tight monitoring system in Australia.

I live and work in Manila and move around SE Asia including to HK so that's why I asked specifically about HK.You are allowed to work 20 hrs a week while on a Student Visa. Of course I guess some work more than 20 hrs.

Member #4698
12-08-14, 18:41
Does anyone have any experiences related to finding Korean girls in HK?

I will be visiting HK soon and I want to try.

In my opinion Korean girls are very attractive and they are most certainly available in HGK as 141 Hotel Reservation girls. Although it has been 3 years since I was last in HKG and I had the pleasure of a Korean girl's company, I do not think the method for finding them has changed and I am pretty sure they will show you a good time. You can find these girls on the www.Go141.com/en web site.

When you are perusing the Go 141 web site select the KLN: Tsim Sha Tsui neighborhood. This is where most of the northern import girls stay when they are in town. Then in the "Gal's Search" window screen for "service HK greater than hkg $1000." A whole bunch of attractive Korean and Japanese reservation girls will subsequently pop up along with a brief description and their corresponding phone numbers. Once you have narrowed your search down to a couple of girls go ahead and call your first choice. Her manager will answer the phone in passable English. Tell him the name of the girl you wish to rendezvous with and what time you want to see her. Give yourself at least an hour to travel to her hotel if you are staying on Hong Kong Island. The girls stay in reasonably nice 3. 5* tourist hotels. The manager will ok the time and then tell you where your girl is staying. When you arrive at her hotel call the manager back and tell him where you are. He will put you on hold while he checks with the girl to make sure she is ready to see you. He will then inform you of her room number. Go up and knock on the door. Your girl will welcome you inside with a demure smile. If you are unhappy with the girl you can cancel the appointment at this time without penalty, but you have to make up your mind quickly. I never had to do this because all the Korean and Japanese 141 girls I have met this way were attractive and reasonably close in appearance to their on line photos. They all possessed friendly attitudes as well. I have never had a bad session with the girls in this price range so I wholeheartedly recommend Japanese and Korean 141 Hotel Reservation girls, especially if you have a hankering for Korean girls. Some very attractive mainland Chinese girls are also available on this website in the 700 to 899hk dollar and 900 to 1000hk dollar price range, but my "very satisfied" success ratio was less than 100% with the mainland girls. I never felt ripped off, but I just didn't click with a couple of the Chinese gals.

Traveler1234
12-08-14, 21:36
You can find these girls on the www.Go141.com/en web site.

When you are perusing the Go 141 web site select the KLN: Tsim Sha Tsui neighborhood. This is where most of the northern import girls stay when they are in town. Then in the "Gal's Search" window screen for "service HK greater than hkg $1000."Just to supplement NP's excellent explanation:

1. Price inflation!

2. Search function. Filter for 'race' - menu gives option to choose Korea, Japan, China, Taiwan, Thai and Mixed.

3. Koreans 1200++, Japanese 2000++.

4. 99% Walk-in rather than Walk-up [needtogothroughagent].

5. Agents are hit and miss, some will switch [notinthebadsenseofbait / switch]if your particular girl not available. At least this was the case with girls from China.

YMMV but well worth the try!

Shedrain
12-09-14, 02:21
Hello everyone,

I am a CBC (Canadian born Chinese), arriving in Hong Kong on Dec 19-23, looking for someone fun to hang to go hunting with I am 24 years old.

What are some places to go? I am hearing mongkok is good, but not sure. Interested in just one to two timers fuck and leave (brothels).

Let me know which place is the best to go and economically friendly.

I want to try, but I can only speak and understand can't. Can't read the site haha, if anyone want to meet up or give me pointers on what best options I have for these few days that would be great!

Viajando Musico
12-09-14, 03:11
So finally I spent a night in Wan Chai to explore the bar scene in HK. I have been in HK numerous times, but never visited these bars in Wan Chai. Got there in the early evening hour and checked in to my hotel. Since I am not familiar with this area, I took advice from the forum and booked myself an executive room at the Wharney Hotel. Room is updated but very tiny which reflects the pricey real estate in HK. The hotel location is right in the middle of the action, short walking distance to many bars. I took a tour to New Makati, Neptune, Amazonia, Joe Banana. And many others, my first impression, good activities but lack of quality.

Started my walking tour around 9 PM, but it was too early for Escape, my main focus of the night. So went back to my hotel for a short break. Went out again at 11 PM, it was more lively at this hour, so make no sense to go there early. Girls started rolling in after 11 PM, I think it peaked at 1 PM, and started thinning out after that till early morning hours. In Escape, it is more of an international scene. I saw probably 6-7 Colombianas, many Filipinas and Vietnamese's as well as some Russians and Mongolians. Girl quality was higher than other clubs in the area, but as well as the opening bid. I will discuss that in a minute. I saw one tall fake blond Colombian who I would rate an 8. 5. , the rest I would say mostly in the 6-7 range, and a very small number of 7-8's. From my observation, girls on the higher side of the scale were very hard core and business like. I sensed low GFE possibility. I conversed with 3 of the Colombians, and within 3 min. Of our conversation, 2 out of the 3 except the fake blond were asking for a drink. So I didn't even bother asking the price for taking them back to the hotel. Based on the attitude, I gave up the idea of the going with a Colombian, and turned my attention to a beautiful Filipina who just arrived from Manila earlier that day and was chatting with 2 of her friends at the bar. Her friends got me to buy them 2 rounds of tequila, and came to the point of negotiating, HKD 3000. Yes, you heard it right. With Manila a 1 hour flight away, it is very difficult to justify the price she is asking. I laughed and left. There were some girls outside walking in between different bars, soliciting prospects. Chatted up with a beautiful Ethiopian who wanted 1000 HKD. I replied with 800 just to see how low she would go, but wouldn't bulge. A couple of the black girls outside the clubs were very attractive and with very tempting physical appearance. I don't understand why they don't work in the clubs, maybe some old hands here could shed the light.

For HK, unless you work and live here and for convenience, I would say it is not a good cost to value mongering destination. There are many better choices close by. Even Macau, a short ferry ride away provides better entertainment, not mentioning what one could get in neighboring South East Asian countries. For Latinas, I would stick to Kama in Guangzhou, better selection at lower cost and better opportunity of GFE.

Red Kilt
12-09-14, 05:57
You are allowed to work 20 hrs a week while on a Student Visa. Of course I guess some work more than 20 hrs.Just to extend this further for clarification Chantik.

To work in Australia for the valid 20 hours you MUST have a tax file number. You cannot get a tax file number if you do not have a valid visa that allows you to undertake any sort of work at all.

Most employers will not employ anyone without a tax file number since they will lose so much if they are "caught".

There are frequent raids on restaurant kitchens in Chinatown in Sydney and Melbourne because low class jobs like washing dishes are the only jobs that illegal immigrants without visas can get but the restaurant can be closed down if it is found to be breaking the law.

This is why I used the word "monitoring", because employers know that some industries are monitored more than others.

This means that Korean girls on a student visa cannot claim working in the legal brothels / massage joints as valid work. If they do it as a sideline as FLs then they also risk having their visas revoked (if caught).

Red Kilt
12-09-14, 06:02
Does anyone have any experiences related to finding Korean girls in HK?

I will be visiting HK soon and I want to try.
Sensational information from NattyB and complemented by Traveler.

Thanks so much guys; your responses restores my "faith" in ISG as a information sharing forum instead of a place for guys to. . . . (don't get me started).

Charles Dickin
12-09-14, 07:14
I think he could develop into a Natty Bumpo Jr.That's very kind of you sir. Natty has the style and the experience so I don't think I'll reach those heights. Thank you for your earlier kindness too.

Charles Dickin
12-09-14, 07:19
Charles, I think from your vivid description that Jenny Java might be a regular semi-freebie that I've been servicing for some time.It could be. Sunny said she was here on holiday but later Jenny said she or maybe they, was hard to understand, had been here a year.

Doesn't matter. Jenny is a nice girl with a killer body but the short hair puts me off.

Doesn't matter though. Sunday I managed to have a good time with some other Indonesian DHs in Kowloon Park. I'm finding my feet. I now see Fast Eddie was right in post 9827.

Charles Dickin
12-09-14, 07:35
First and most important though thanks to Ikksman, Makeupaname, Pipe Layer99, Brown Rail, Melor, Idler 31, and Chantik for the support and encouragement and advice.

Here's another report, ignore buttons at the ready. Some people seem to like shorter reports, others longer. So I'll try to please both sets.

In short:

141 Miss HK, James Lee, TST. Middle aged, good service but stops to answer the phone a lot. $1000 basic, though with interesting variations in missionary, $200 extra for uniform, $300 extra for BBBJ. 70's style super pubes included in the price. Seems to be into facials.

End of short report. You can stop reading now if you want. Really you can if you like. The management takes no responsibility for anyone reading further.

More meat version:

I've found that 141 is good for rookies. No confusion about intention. Kind of point and pick. I guess the time may be shorter but does that really matter? If you can bothered to keep reading, you'll see that a good way to choose the girl is by listening rather than looking. But you don't have to keep reading if you don't want.

I started online and picked two girls from James Lee because it had the most choice of the buildings I browsed. The photos were obscured but seemed promising. I sent SMS. I got a quick reply from one but nothing from the other. Looking again today the second has been showing Day Off since Sunday any way. So I confirmed an appointment with the first and headed over. She wasn't at home when I arrived but she turned up maybe 5 minutes later. Miss HK turned out to be Mrs HK. She wasn't what I expected but she's very nice and tries hard with her service.

The website gives her bra and cup size as 35 E. This seems accurate enough. But we need to introduce a third measurement for vertical drop. They were probably really good for that size and her age though. They're much bigger than mine. She has beautiful eyes which I think is more important. I love Asian eyes the best. She also has beautiful skin.

After an assisted shower she tried to up sell a BBBJ for $300. No thanks. She then insisted on wearing a uniform. I thought that might help. Most people in the world look better in clothes than out of clothes. Another thing I like about Asian girls is the cute little butt. Mrs HK is too generous in that area for my taste but from reading this forum there's a lot of you guys who prefer that. Fair enough. She's also too hairy down front for my taste. Again I know some of you really into that. The uniform would have helped me by hiding the bits I didn't want to see but her office lady clothes were scratchy and put me off. Also she stopped a few times to answer the phone which finished me off but in the wrong way. Miss HK was very disappointed. 'I lost' she said. I was thinking the same. She showed that she likes the end product as facial cream. This might explain the beautiful facial skin.

I wouldn't repeat but I think if she's your type you will have a good time, phone permitting. She likes to put her legs in different positions during missionary which has potential. If you can avoid the scratchy fish nets.

Bonus for those who've kept reading. Still no obligation to continue.

I felt disappointed especially for $1200 so I wandered around James Lee. I was the only foreigner and simply by being there seemed to make some of the other customers nervous. I know that feeling. I've got the diploma.

Some appartments have pictures outside but my experience with Miss / Mrs HK had taught me that actual product may differ from one advertised. I found one picture in a corner that looked promising and pressed the bell. The lady opened the door, shook her head and closed it again. That took me by surprise so stood there a few moments to recover. The door to the right opened and the lady invited me in. I was still in a little shock so I didn't move and because of my hesitation the lady closed the door. I've no idea what she looked like because I wasn't paying attention. I can't remember which floor but it must probably have been one of the 01 flats. Out of the stairs and keeping turning right and go to the end apartment. Go in and it'll be the door on the right hand side at the tee junction inside. Hope that helps.

While walking around I heard a couple of ladies who were very noisy but in a good way. I noted the numbers and thought I would return if nothing else. I didn't find anyone else so went back to the noisy places. One was now available so I rang the bell and hoped the picture would be as good as the sound.

Bulls eye!

You know how us guys like to categorize. Sexy or beautiful or pretty or cute. I've never thought it possible for a girl to be cute and sexy. This one is. Cute face, sexy body. Sold! Super friendly, gave me a big hug and a bigger smile soon as I stepped over the threshold. Assisted shower was great too.

I know some forum members think I'm a loser and in some ways I am. I may not know too well how to get a girl into bed but I do know my way around when I do. She offered me the massage table but I pointed at the bed. She said 'no massage?' and I said 'yes. ' So she offered me the massage table again. I pointed to the bed again. It took a bit of creative sign language but I eventually got what I wanted.

I got her to lie down and I gave her a massage (it's awesome what you can learn from the internet). She absolutely loved that. Then I gave her a cat bath all over and lots of DATY. The interenet said girls like this kind of thing. Her smile was even bigger so maybe the internet was right. So I thought I'd go for a record bigggest smile and gave her some more DATY. It really is awesome what you can lean from the internet.

Eventually she was too exhausted to continue lying there having screaming orgasms. She was so noisy that the neighbours must have heard. When scouting earlier I heard her from half way down the corridor. This I think is a better way of picking 141 girls than the photos.

Two times her phone had rung so far. The first was during the massage so I just stopped. The second was during DATY. I didn't want a repeat of earlier so I paused for 10 seconds in case it was an emergency or family so she could quickly but politely end the call. It didn't seem to an emergency or mom so I carried on any way. If you ever need an effective way to end a girl's phone call, then that's one. She didn't bother answering the phone again even though it rang a few times more. Maybe it was mom after all.

After the extended dining, she insisted on giving head. Fair enough. She insisted on her using her own condom, also fair enough. But would use mine for intercourse, Japanese technology where you need it most in a relationship.

She kept shifting position during the BJ and eventually I managed to get her into 69. Up to that point the BJ had been good but as 69 started she couldn't concentrate any more. Seemed to have difficulty keeping her mouth closed and the volume down. So I guess it wasn't a true 69. So is that a 6? Maybe a 9?

When the screaming stopped, she changed me into my Japanese man kimono and we went at it properly. I enjoyed every position especially the 3 where she was on top. She got great breasts and a cute face so anything face to face was always going to be fun. She does have a scar which I guess is Csection but I don't know and don't care. Nobody's body is perfect. Doggie was great too as she has the kind of ass I'm really in to. Big enough to bubble but small enough to be cute.

As we cycled through the positions she was getting hotter and hotter and at some point opened the window. Now she could probably be heard on the street! After the usual set of positions she was exhausted. But that didn't stop me going through a second time the ones where I do the work. She doesn't like facials. Fair enough. But was happy for me to milk her breasts as it were.

The assisted shower afterwards was difficult because neither of us could walk or even stand properly. It probably looked funny. But it sure felt good.

The best bit was the chemistry. Though her cute AND sexy body and face were also excellent. As a bonus she would not let me pay because she'd had such a good time. She wouldn't even let me insist so there was no confusion. In the end I did sneakily leave a tip. Partly to cover the extra laundry bill because she made quite a mess of several towels. Also partly because she has a big sign which when you translate the English into English says non-payment equals 18 months jail.

I hope that was entertaining enough for you. I enjoyed reliving it. I've made plans to see her again. Because of the play 4 free offer, I'm not giving her details out in case she gets in trouble with the 141 management. I don't know their rules. I also don't want to share a hospital bed with her. I hope you understand. She's not on the 141 site but in the 141 building.

If you still don't like my reporting then Beijing4987 kindly pointed out that there's an ignore button. Fair enough.

Weben
12-09-14, 15:44
Charles,

Long posts, but entertaining. Just some advice, you shouldn't be spending more than 600-800 for attractive young Chinese girls. You can get a hotel girl through an agent for $800, they are generally younger and from the mainland so a few phrases in Mandarin is helpful but not needed. You already mentioned one of the other sites with information on girls, but not all girls pay for that service. You could just start at the top of the Fuji building and walk down looking at pictures; nearly the whole building is filled with women compared to Phoenix Apartments were you only have two floors. The rest is a hostel, a love hotel and some private flats. Personally, I have a nice little spinner near my apartment in Causeway Bay who I see for $500 per visit and she is damn near a GFE.

Frankly, I find HK more convenient that Bangkok as you can not only find walk-ups in nearly every neighborhood, it is easy to get freebies with the domestic helpers (if you are there on a Sunday); sometimes they might hint for a little compensation. Rates are low if you know where to go and service can be great if you speak a little Putonghua. Otherwise, you can generally find some nice English speaking Filipino women for $1,000 - $1,500 located in decent hotels; which is worth the little extra money if you don't like showering while standing over a toilet.

Chantik
12-09-14, 16:33
Just to extend this further for clarification Chantik.

To work in Australia for the valid 20 hours you MUST have a tax file number. You cannot get a tax file number if you do not have a valid visa that allows you to undertake any sort of work at all.

Most employers will not employ anyone without a tax file number since they will lose so much if they are "caught".

There are frequent raids on restaurant kitchens in Chinatown in Sydney and Melbourne because low class jobs like washing dishes are the only jobs that illegal immigrants without visas can get but the restaurant can be closed down if it is found to be breaking the law.

This is why I used the word "monitoring", because employers know that some industries are monitored more than others.

This means that Korean girls on a student visa cannot claim working in the legal brothels / massage joints as valid work. If they do it as a sideline as FLs then they also risk having their visas revoked (if caught).Why are brothels full of Asian Girls. Because they are in OZ on student visas. Do you think that the legal brothels that employ Asian girls have them employed illegally. Do this and the brothels will lose their licence. Now there may be some tweaking of girls working more than 20 hrs and some may not always attend their classes BUT the ladies are here on valid visas. After all Australia doesn't offer 461 visas for sex work.

And Korea / Singapore / HK has reciprocal arrangments which allow a select few to get 12 month working visas which allow them to work for one employer for a maximum of three months. So some of the girls in parlors may be on 12 month holiday working visas.

And we are discussing escorts, not kitchen hands.

Teltel
12-10-14, 02:38
You are allowed to work 20 hrs a week while on a Student Visa. Of course I guess some work more than 20 hrs.Also South korean girls can be eligible for a twelve months working holiday visa, also Hong Kong, Taiwan and Japan nationals can get these visas.

Working in a brothel here can be 10 am to 2 am or 4 am if they work double shifts which many do.

The number of customers in a busy brothel at 30 minutes a time, or an hour for some, can mean a lot of work. I know one girl who has serviced twenty five customers in a double shift.

Teltel.

FreebieFan
12-10-14, 03:00
Also South korean girls can be eligible for a twelve months working holiday visa, also Hong Kong, Taiwan and Japan nationals can get these visas.

Working in a brothel here can be 10 am to 2 am or 4 am if they work double shifts which many do.

The number of customers in a busy brothel at 30 minutes a time, or an hour for some, can mean a lot of work. I know one girl who has serviced twenty five customers in a double shift.

Teltel.And now the HK ISG board has morphed into the Australian visa board and how many hours Lee Cum Park can legally work.

Too bad for guys who are actually searching for information about HK.

Maybe the Sydney brothel board has some info on HK sex? Big LOL.

I actually love the tangents these boards go off on, and have no problem with it at all.

Ikksman
12-10-14, 07:42
{S N I P} As a bonus she would not let me pay because she'd had such a good time. She wouldn't even let me insist so there was no confusion.{S N I P} Entertaining report until I got to the 2 sentences above. This type of claim will always raise huge doubts in readers as to the veracity of the rest of the post.

It has never happened to me, but if it by some miracle did occur to me, I would not report it in a forum like ISG, as I would fear becoming a target for ridicule.


{S N I P} it is easy to get freebies with the domestic helpers (if you are there on a Sunday); sometimes they might hint for a little compensation. Rates are low if you know where to go and service can be great if you speak a little Putonghua. {S N I P}There are plenty of DH girls who have days off other than Sunday. Yes, one does need to know where to go (RTTF). My favourite place is Shatin.

I was confused with your reference to Putonghua. I did not know there were numbers of PRC girls working as DHers.

Ikksman
"No need to expose fools. They expose themselves!"

Charles Dickin
12-10-14, 07:55
Sensible advice again Ikksman. It is really true but now you mention it I guess I shouldn't have. Won't make that mistake again. Live and learn. Thanks again. You're a good man.

Charles Dickin
12-10-14, 08:02
I need to change my mind a bit about 141. Walks up seem more reliable than call ups.

Short.

141 Betty, Young Buddies, TST. 1200 for foreigners for 20 min. Mainly terrible service. The 60's BBBJ is good while it lasts. No touching or kissing but plenty of talking on the phone.

'Long'.

Thought I would try a hotel girl because she looked so hot in the pictures. She's Betty from Young Buddies. Young yes, buddy no. Made an appointment by SMS. She's operating out of the Ramada. When I arrived a different girl opened the door gave me a stern look and then left the room and up the stairs. I guess another Young Buddy.

I knocked again and Betty opened it this time. She did a twirl and asked 'ok'? Yes more than ok. Very hot. She invited me in. She took out her phone and typed in 1200. The website said 1000 but as most everything else I've tried has been higher than the advertised price I said ok.

When I undressed she started making comments in Chinese about the Dickins quill and ink pots. I had a shower while she stood by the bath and helped a little. She made sure the quill was clean. That felt very good. On to the bed for me while she spent a few minutes unnecessarily rearranging the box of tissues. That was when the first phone call happened. Immediately followed by another. Then another. She also sent a few messages. She finally joined me on the bed and gave what turned out to be a very good BBBJ. I think she's really hot looking so that helped. But the BJ was interrupted by a knock at the door. So total BJ time was max 2 min. But a very good 2 min.

When Betty returned to the bed she lay down next to me. I then discovered no kissing anywhere. No touching. I was expecting no sex allowed also. But she handed me my condom and indicated missionary. She made a few more comments. I didn't understand but they sure didn't sound very encouraging. I went slowly and carefully for 30's, there was plenty of room, then went a bit quickr. After a couple of minutes she indicated change so she went on top. This was also enjoyable mainly because of the view. But more phone calls. Then she spent a few minutes typing messages.

When she returned to the bed I had gone half limp. So she grabbed me with one hand and reached behind with the other and grabber her phone. She was then talking on the phone while trying to give me a HJ. Hopeless. When she finished her call she asked 'more time one thousand'? I think of the 25 min I was there she was on the phone nearly 20 of them.

I took a half hearted shower mostly alone, again she stood outside the bath and used her hand to clean the equipment. She was back on the phone while I dressed. I put 1200 on the desk and left. As I opened the door the stern looking girl was just arriving. She gave me another stern look and entered the room.

I'll stick to door to door sales. Thanks to Weben for answering my question about Fuji building. I will give that a try.

Teltel
12-10-14, 12:05
And now the HK ISG board has morphed into the Australian visa board and how many hours Lee Cum Park can legally work.

Too bad for guys who are actually searching for information about HK.

Maybe the Sydney brothel board has some info on HK sex? Big LOL.

I actually love the tangents these boards go off on, and have no problem with it at all.Sorry FF, just some info related to Chantik's post, I will be more careful in future.

Teltel.

Weben
12-10-14, 13:40
Entertaining report until I got to the 2 sentences above. This type of claim will always raise huge doubts in readers as to the veracity of the rest of the post.

I was confused with your reference to Putonghua. I did not know there were numbers of PRC girls working as DHers.

Ikksman
"No need to expose fools. They expose themselves!"That should have been a new sentence. A poster a while back stated how (in his opinion) HK is not that great to monger and I tend to disagree. It is just a little more diverse; the walk-ups are good deals, some with very attractive women, but if you want to build a little rapport you need to be able to chat and most don't speak good English, if at all. For me the convenience factor is great as there are probably at least half a dozen places from my apartment on the island site and TST is just a short trip on the metro.

The DH girls are different as those from the Philippines nearly always speak great English.

Chantik
12-10-14, 16:31
It's a simple request as to why there are few Korean girls in HK. Many go to OZ. Nothing more to it.

Chantik
12-10-14, 16:32
I must live in a different world. My phone is on silent during meetings. Wouldn't dream of answering a call. Gents need to be stronger with this issue.

JackTheLad2
12-10-14, 20:13
I need to change my mind a bit about 141. Walks up seem more reliable than call ups.
Short.
141 Betty, Young Buddies, TST. 1200 for foreigners for 20 min. Mainly terrible service. The 60's BBBJ is good while it lasts. No touching or kissing but plenty of talking on the phone.
.I'm beginning to warm to CD's reports after having slated him on his 1st lengthy report. (I read War and Peace quicker).

However, I feel he is being screwed more often than he is screwing but good luck to him.

MvuLane
12-11-14, 00:13
I need to change my mind a bit about 141. Walks up seem more reliable than call ups.

Short.

141 Betty, Young Buddies, TST. 1200 for foreigners for 20 min. Mainly terrible service. The 60's BBBJ is good while it lasts. No touching or kissing but plenty of talking on the phone.

Hello CD,

I'm sorry for what happened to you. Many posters here said that 141 websites ("Young Buddies") are a hit and miss, but I've personally never had a single bad experience (luck?

I usually target the girls on the 700-900 range.

Below that point you get sub-pars, or blurred photos. Many may try to compensate by trying hard, but you get a similar friendly experience from the DH market for free so.

Above the 1,000 point (Japanese and Korean aside), they're all divas.

I've usually got the same girl I chose on the website. Photos are (heavily) photoshopped, so I usually select those that have a video.

The experience is usually great: friendly gals, willing to please and good looking.

On one occasion the gal I asked was not there (the person on the phone told me after I insisted it must be {can't remember her fake name} or else I'd leave) so I asked (in Cantonese) if I could see the others and she invited me in to the main room. I got the line up, choose one I liked and I went to another room.

- Has any one else got line ups from 141's? Way better than choosing on a website (it always takes me hours!

Charles Dickin
12-11-14, 07:25
This is a courtesy post to respond to the kind and helpful members. There's no lady contact information or lady review, good or bad.

I've put all the thanks into one post, so you've only one post to skip. I hope that's OK. I've put my flak jacket on already.

Jackthelad2, I actually welcomed your initial response. It was honest and made me change for the better. Initially I was over tired and over excited. With hindsight I think that too much anticipation of something only leads to disappointment. I've had different experiences from what I planned.

I owe FreebieFan an apology because first time round I missed his help underneath the HK / China debate. Sorry!

Thank you too Mvulane. If Betty Young Buddy had been my first 141 she would have been my last. Betty does have a video and I enjoyed looking at it more than once. Again I think I built up too much expectation. She looked different in real life but still very hot and my taste so I wasn't disappointed in that respect. May be the video difference was just the makeup. I looked again afterwards at that video and some more and all the girls seem to have the same makeup style.

I have learnt that for rookies who don't speak Chinese that going round a good sized 141 building yourself is the best. No photoshop tricks and you can see right away if the lady is your taste and you are hers. When the very first door I tried refused me I was a bit shocked. Good that I changed my initial plans from visiting Japan. But thinking about it now that was way better than what happened with Betty. I think the lady also has a right to choose / refuse customers. It's only fair as the customer is also choosing a lady.

I did find all the many signs on some 141 doors overwhelming especially as I could not read most of it. Some of the signs are funny.

I haven't made so many attempts so I don't know if I've been unlucky or not. Mainly I made dumb choices for me, phone booking without seeing the full picture and another phone booking without speaking Chinese and Makati where I couldn't hear or see. After my first post there were others saying that Makati is not so suitable right now. It was perfect during the spot checks because the lights were on, the music off, and everybody standing still. Unfortunately the girls I really liked arrived with guys already. I wonder where they met.

Instead I should have had dinner with an Escape girl but that advice wasn't available at the time. But I always knew I'm a bad pick up artist so I shouldn't have ever gone down that road. But you guys make it seem so easy!

Also thanks for Mvulane's advice about Fuji. If I have time I will try to climb Mt Fuji. Before I saw your post I had just tried Phoenix Apartments and they were exactly as you said. I went there because I read somewhere else that Phoenix had many choices. This is why ISG is the best!

Chantik
12-11-14, 15:20
Be wary of reviews on the 141 site. I am talking about the 141 site, and not the 141 forum. Girls pay to advertise on the 141 forum and the reviews can be questionable. And bad reviews can cause ladies lots of grief. And good reviews are not necessarily that good. You will find out more in the cantonese section of 141 site.

Melor
12-12-14, 23:58
According to the staff at K-Pressure, they are about the service and not the looks. A visitor friend of mine was there 2 months back and reported crap service back then. Last week he went there again and had the time of his life. As for 37 Dundas, there are two places there. One on the first and one on the second floor. The one on the second floor I am told has older providers. Reports on local forums have some good things to say about some of the providers in these two places. There are however providers who prefer against being with a Westerner and this may affect the choices available to non Chinese.Thanks. Looks like a matter of customer's luck then. I will probably opt for hunting on a bar scene instead of these establishments.

Shedrain
12-13-14, 06:12
Is there consensus that K pressure and dundas isn't very good? I am in my early 20's looking to go on crazy spree and I don't think it can do too old or bigger ladies. First time in Hong Kong. Any suggestion where to go or what my best options are? I can speak fluent English and Cantonese, but unable to read Chinese so not sure if 141 is a good choice. Any advice for a fellow newbie would be greatly appreciated.

Uncle Junior
12-13-14, 17:01
Is there consensus that K pressure and dundas isn't very good? I am in my early 20's looking to go on crazy spree and I don't think it can do too old or bigger ladies. First time in Hong Kong. Any suggestion where to go or what my best options are? I can speak fluent English and Cantonese, but unable to read Chinese so not sure if 141 is a good choice. Any advice for a fellow newbie would be greatly appreciated.Your in your early 20's and speak fluent Cantonese? If this is the case, why don't you invest a little time and try talking to the million of pretty girls that are everywhere?

It might take a little effort, but if you have any game at all, and are willing to invest the money you would be using for P2P, you will probably have a much more rewarding experience.

If that doesn't work, you can always fall back on 141 to get your needs fulfilled.

My $.02.

Uncle Junior

Weben
12-13-14, 18:42
I'm sorry for what happened to you. Many posters here said that 141 websites ("Young Buddies") are a hit and miss, but I've personally never had a single bad experience.
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I usually target the girls on the 700-900 range.
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I've usually got the same girl I chose on the website. Photos are (heavily) Photoshopped, so I usually select those that have a video.
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- Has any one else got line ups from 141's? Way better than choosing on a website (it always takes me hours!Yes, photos are touched up and / or older. However, you can read the forum for some very thorough reviews on the girls. I usually pick a few and if they are not what I am looking for when I see them in person, I just move on to the next girl on my list. Don't feel bad, the girls turn away guys all the time. And, many Chinese men just walk entire building knocking on doors. If you spend a little time looking, you can get a nice clean, pretty and enthusiastic 141 women for $500-600. I only go higher with the hotel girls, but what you are getting is younger girls from the mainland who usually don't provide great service. However, their nice tight 19-20 year old bodies will turn you on, if only someone would explain to them they should shave.

Ikksman
12-14-14, 00:31
{S N I P} but what you are getting is younger girls from the mainland who usually don't provide great service. However, their nice tight 19-20 year old bodies will turn you on, if only someone would explain to them they should shave.I remember on a visit to Vietnam, where offering a tip to a Vietnamese (outside of the major cities) was regarded as an insult, and 2 Americans were trying to force a SYT to accept a tip saying "This is the way we do it back in the States"! F*ckwits!

Please learn a little about the traditions and culture of the countries that you visit. My hint to you in this case is the term 'white tiger' (白虎 / bái hǔ).

And yes, it is possible to get great service from many PRC girls if you have the right attitude. Not everyone wants to do things the way they do it "back in the States" or by some other ethnocentric western standard.

Ikksman
"No need to expose fools. They expose themselves!"

P.S. An interesting sidenote to the above is that orphanages in rural China receive many baby girls born in the year of the Tiger. And if a rural girl born in that year grows up to be a natural 'white tiger' she will be very unlikely to find a husband (unless she goes to a Tier 1/2 city).

Shedrain
12-14-14, 02:35
Your in your early 20 and speak fluent Cantonese? If this is the case, why don't you invest a little time and try talking to the million of pretty girls that are everywhere?
It might take a little effort, but if you have any game at all, and are willing to invest the money you would be using for P2P, you will probably have a much more rewarding experience.

If that doesn't work, you can always fall back on 141 to get your needs fulfilled.

My $.02.

Uncle JuniorI am only here for a week, and I'm by myself. Going clubbing alone? Haha I'll give it a shot, but you're right. I can do way better.

Tiger 888
12-14-14, 14:35
I remember on a visit to Vietnam, where offering a tip to a Vietnamese (outside of the major cities) was regarded as an insult, and 2 Americans were trying to force a SYT to accept a tip saying "This is the way we do it back in the States"! F*ckwits!

Please learn a little about the traditions and culture of the countries that you visit. My hint to you in this case is the term 'white tiger' (白虎 / bi hǔ).

And yes, it is possible to get great service from many PRC girls if you have the right attitude. Not everyone wants to do things the way they do it "back in the States" or by some other ethnocentric western standard.

Ikksman
"No need to expose fools. They expose themselves!"

P.S. An interesting sidenote to the above is that orphanages in rural China receive many baby girls born in the year of the Tiger. And if a rural girl born in that year grows up to be a natural 'white tiger' she will be very unlikely to find a husband (unless she goes to a Tier 1/2 city).You are spot on. The Yanks believe they rule the world. Travel responsibly is the secret.

Ikksman
12-14-14, 21:13
You are spot on. The Yanks believe they rule the world. Travel responsibly is the secret.My example of the two Americans was not meant to indict all citizens of that country. There are "Ugly Americans" in all societies. And the Chinese tourists are the new Uglies, particularly the second generation rich and the peasants who all of a sudden have money (after selling their land or whatever. Did you know that the Chinese government has issued a 36 page booklet telling its tourists how to behave! LOL!

Anyway, a member has PM'd me and told me to "stop beating around the bush" haha.

So here is my understanding why most traditional PRC girls dislike shaving their pubes, and their beliefs should be respected. I have also included some additional knowledge about pubes that you can use to compliment WGs and increase chances of receiving good service.

Traditionally, a girl with no pubic hair was considered to be probably infertile. She was thus considered to be bad luck as the family lineage was (and is) so important to Chinese. Later, the superstition became broader to include that guys would have bad luck if they slept with girls without pubes.

The rare white tiger is related to the symbol of jinx in China history, and in Feng shui a white tiger picture or statue can cause extreme bad luck if ill-positioned. If you follow Chinese astrology you will know that 2010 was a white tiger year (metal = white) and was considered, by many traditionalists, a very unlucky year (the mainly wooden tiger would fight with the metal element).

Thus, girls without pubic hair became known as 'white tigers' - ie bad luck!

Interestingly, many types of pubic hair carry traditional meanings:

• no pubes - may be infertile
• abundant pubes - sensuous and passionate
• black pubes - strong and passionate
• brown, gold tints - easy and generous
• fine, silky - quiet and retiring
• upward growth - sign of beauty.

Chinese are still very superstitious and many girls still wear the red string around their waist every 6 years (good way to check a Chinese girl's age). But, fairly naturally, these superstitions are dying out, particularly in the cities, however most PRC WGs come from rural areas.

The global spread of PRC WGs continues to astound me, and I reckon that this type of knowledge can be used to one's advantage when mongering in many different countries, not just China (including HK).

Ikksman
"No need to expose fools. They expose themselves!"

Double Shooter
12-14-14, 21:15
The Shooter arrived in Hong Kong on a Sunday morning. This was a 1-day stopover en route to Angeles, but he was determined to try out the notorious DH (Domestic Helper) scene.

After checking in to his hotel, he freshened up and did some work emails before hopping on a tram to Wanchai (HKD 2. 50 only! Actually it was a mistake to dawdle because he got to Wanchai by 3:30 pm, which is a bit late for the Sunday scene!

First stop was Bar 109, a small bar that stays open 24 hours. It was a visceral experience to step from the quiet street in bright sunlight to this dark pulsating club. Everyone seemed inebriated. 3 girls were dancing on the bar coyote ugly style. A cute Fili immediately pounced on the Shooter. She didn't take long getting up close and personal. She was indeed a DH on her day off. It proved impossible to get a drink in this bar, so they decamped to Players Bar nearby.

The Shooter asked about her curfew hour. She replied honestly that it was early, 6:30 pm. That left very little time for hanky panky, so he should have cut her loose. Nevertheless he enjoyed her perky personality so he went with the flow. He was soon enjoying her perky tits as she shoved them into his face while she massaged his cock through his trousers. Not only her but her friend also. Later a 3rd friend came along and the Shooter groped her delightful arse under her mini-skirt.

Of course this came at a cost in the form of ladies drinks on which the girls get a commission. The Shooter kept it fairly frugal and spent about HKD 600 in about 90 minutes. Old hands would baulk at such expenditure but the Shooter judged it fair recompense for a first-time experience.

By now it was 5 pm and already too late for the take-out. The Shooter regretted his "late" start at 3:30 pm! She offered a romp in the hay in an ST hotel for HKD 1500. WTF. That quickly went down to 1000. The girls were not hard core but such mercantile negotiations were not part of the DH fantasy for which the Shooter aspired. So he ditched the DH with a plan to hit New Makati.

First he hit the head to take a leak. Coming out of the john he saw a small girl waiting her turn. She was not beautiful but exotic-looking and with a shy but enticing demeanour. The Shooter struck up a conversation. She was an Indo DH called Vivien. Sweet and unpretentious, she seemed to genuinely enjoy the Shooter's company. She asked him to dance. That was fun, giving him a chance to cop a feel here and there, and also check out the other ladies in the bar. He was surprised to see some Fili MILFs, dressed to the nines, boogying on down while gazing forlornly at the Shooter as an unattainable goal LOL. There were also some beautiful younger hotties, very well dressed. Their direct stares indicated WG status.

The Shooter noted with approval that Vivien did not request a drink. When he offered, she took a beer, which did not incur an LD commission. The bill for 2 beers was HK150. He asked her about her curfew. "8:30 pm" she said. "Well, we'd better go to my hotel"; he said. "OK" she replied. That was easy, he thought. They jumped in a cab and 10 minutes later they were in his room.

No small talk, no shower, they started grappling on the bed. After all, time was of the essence. Right up front she asked him "not to come inside". WTF. They were still fully dressed. The clothes came off gradually as they smooched and groped like teenagers. Her pussy was very wet. The Shooter could not resist and went downstairs for DATY. Tasty stuff. Oddly enough she showed no inclination to reciprocate. He feared the worst: a failure to fellate. He asked politely for a BJ and she immediately complied. It was pretty good albeit a tad toothy.

Soon it was time for the main course. BBFS was on offer but the Shooter took a condom, not least because he feared premature ejaculation. A wise precaution as she was very tight. They cycled through several positions before he finally came in mish. It was a real turn-on to see how much she enjoyed it. There wasn't enough time for a second round, especially considering the Shooter's lengthy refractory period, but she was keen to give it a go. She said she could get away with extending her curfew by 30 minutes or so.

He popped a 5 MG Cialis and fooled around a bit. She was very sweet and it was easy to relax with her (no pressure to perform). Fortunately his cock elected to erect and they were able to get it on. This time he went in unstrapped. A wet, tight pussy does wonders even to a jaded monger and he was able to achieve climax with relative ease. He blew his load onto her stomach, rubbing his cock against the soft skin of her thigh. Great stuff.

They exchanged numbers and she begged him to contact her on his next trip. At no time did she ask for money. RTFF suggests that an appropriate tip is about HKD 500. He gave her HKD 600 for her taxi, which she accepted without counting.

He escorted down to the lobby and ordered her a taxi. His DH fantasy had been fulfilled.

Member #4698
12-14-14, 23:02
I am a pussy lover and although my preference is for shaved or trimmed nice Asian pussy, I can certainly enjoy bushy or stringy Chinese pussy too, It never stopped me from picking a pretty Chinese girl out of a Macau Sauna line up and going down on her. Variety is the spice of life!

And in the interest of full disclosure, I am an American. 555. Born and raised in the land of Lincoln.

JackTheLad2
12-15-14, 02:16
The Shooter arrived in Hong Kong on a Sunday morning. This was a 1-day stopover en route to Angeles, but he was determined to try out the notorious DH (Domestic Helper) scene.
What can I say?

Brilliant!

Brown Rail
12-15-14, 07:05
The Shooter arrived in Hong Kong on a Sunday morning. This was a 1-day stopover en route to Angeles, but he was determined to try out the notorious DH (Domestic Helper) scene..It all sounds good, but I think the beers are HKD55 each. Maybe you left a large tip for the waitress? It was nice of you, but not necessary. Probably not the HKD600 "taxi" money either. But if it leaves your conscience clear. So be it.

Double Shooter
12-15-14, 15:30
The Shooter considered his options after the Indo DH left at 8:45 pm. The wise choice was to take an early night and get a good night's rest in preparation for his 8 am flight to Angeles. He had already achieved his two shots for the day, which is his target as well as his nom de plume, and the running costs of boobs & booze are a hell of a lot less in AC.

Yet there is an experiential value to be weighed against that. Why not check out the scene? After all, with empty balls there was no pressure to take a lady. So he rested for two hours then hit the road back to Wanchai. Again he took the tram, which is incredibly slow, but also incredibly cheap. As a tourist you don't care much about the time, and it was very pleasant to sit upstairs in the open air.

He got off and wandered up and and Lockhart Road and Jaffe Road, stretching his legs and enjoying the night air. There were a few bars that opened onto the street. No action there but they seemed like convivial spots for a pint and a chat. Some interesting place names, e. G. The Fook Yee Building. He wondered if that was named by a Scotsman. He picked up the pace when he walked past the Fook Gay Mansion.

He stuck his head into Delaneys. It was crowded with Westerners watching the footy, but no action except for an African of Amazonian proportions waiting outside. That was his cue to pop into Amazonia across the road. There were some pretty girls inside so he stopped for a drink.

Unfortunately the lookers were already occupied. There was a Chinese GILF who stared at the Shooter as if she wanted to gobble him up. Nicely dressed but born 3 decades too early. In another context the Shooter might have engaged her in discussions about Mao's Cultural Revolution and life in China in the 60's, but that is simply not a Wanchai topic.

He left after 1 beer. He wanted to try the notorious New Makati but he couldn't see it. A quick consultation of Google Maps and lo & behold, there it was right in front of him. Up the stairs and to the right. Into an almost deserted bar! This was midnight on a Sunday night.

He skedaddled out and popped into Neptune 3, another famous venue. This was more promising, but by no means busy. Mostly Filis. He was immediately approached by a moderately attractive Fili, but he brushed her off in search of more interesting fare.

He went to the bar for a drink, and struck a conversation with a busty Indo. She was well-dressed and vivacious. A bit too hefty for the Shooter's taste, but for him the personality is an important factor. She also had a hint of nympho about her.

Looking around, there were one or two points of interest. The best alternative was an Ava Devine lookalike (young version). After that there was a Fili with Kardashian curves squeezed into leather pants. Wowser!

The Shooter opted to stick with the Indo and leave the Filis for his AC trip. He spent HKD 550 on drinks and in his tired state he negotiated badly her fee at USD 200. USD 100 + HKD 100 for taxi was probably the right price for that lady at that time (2 am) in that place (no other customers). She might even have gone for taxi money, she was certainly game for a good shagging! Still, USD200 is about HKD1500, which is quite a common rate in the HK scene.

Basically the Shooter wasn't bothered either way but wanted to try the experience. There was a raw sexual energy about her that he could not resist.

Back in the hotel, she was all over him like a rash. The foreplay is probably the best part of a bar pickup when it emulates boy-meets-girl. It gets boring when they just strip off and shower and go straight into the heavy stuff. It's great to smooch and grapple and struggle out of clothes in awkward clinches.

After some great foreplay, she eventually went for a shower then got on top and basically fucked him to death in Cowboy position for 2 hours. He laid back and provided the tent pole upon which she impaled herself with incredible energy. She came countless times.

The Shooter had taken another 5 MG Cialis, which did the trick in terms of maintaining wood over such a long period. Afterwards he had bruises on his shoulders where her elbows dug in. It was a unique experience for the Shooter, albeit a bit monotonous at times! Occasionally she allowed him to use some different positions, but she always went back to cowboy.

Finally at 4:30 am he insisted on coming so that he could get a snippet of sleep, and relief for his poor old dick, which was started to feel chafed. A quick bit of BB mish did the trick and he splurged over her stomach.

She admitted that she had taken Ice beforehand and that was the secret of her Energizer-bunny performance. The Shooter was glad to be flying to Angeles so that he could take a rest. He snoozed for an hour, then packed, checked out of the hotel and kissed her farewell.

He couldn't be fucked to take the metro so he splashed out on a taxi to the airport (HKD350). It was 20 hours in Hong Kong well spent.

YellowFevers
12-15-14, 19:15
Great report there DS!

It's been a long time since I visited HK and your report has given me the urge to get back there for the DH Funday. When I do, hope to be writing a similarly enjoyable report with as many doubles! Did you make your flight after your marathon visit?

Cheers,

Yf.


The Shooter considered his options after the Indo DH left at 8:45 pm. The wise choice was to take an early night and get a good night's rest in preparation for his 8 am flight to Angeles. He had already achieved his two shots for the day, which is his target as well as his nom de plume, and the running costs of boobs & booze are a hell of a lot less in AC.

Yet there is an experiential value to be weighed against that. Why not check out the scene? After all, with empty balls there was no pressure to take a lady. So he rested for two hours then hit the road back to Wanchai. Again he took the tram, which is incredibly slow, but also incredibly cheap. As a tourist you don't care much about the time, and it was very pleasant to sit upstairs in the open air.

He got off and wandered up and and Lockhart Road and Jaffe Road, stretching his legs and enjoying the night air. There were a few bars that opened onto the street. No action there but they seemed like convivial spots for a pint and a chat. Some interesting place names, e. G. The Fook Yee Building. He wondered if that was named by a Scotsman. He picked up the pace when he walked past the Fook Gay Mansion.

He stuck his head into Delaneys. It was crowded with Westerners watching the footy, but no action except for an African of Amazonian proportions waiting outside. That was his cue to pop into Amazonia across the road. There were some pretty girls inside so he stopped for a drink.

Unfortunately the lookers were already occupied. There was a Chinese GILF who stared at the Shooter as if she wanted to gobble him up. Nicely dressed but born 3 decades too early. In another context the Shooter might have engaged her in discussions about Mao's Cultural Revolution and life in China in the 60's, but that is simply not a Wanchai topic.

He left after 1 beer. He wanted to try the notorious New Makati but he couldn't see it. A quick consultation of Google Maps and lo & behold, there it was right in front of him. Up the stairs and to the right. Into an almost deserted bar! This was midnight on a Sunday night.

He skedaddled out and popped into Neptune 3, another famous venue. This was more promising, but by no means busy. Mostly Filis. He was immediately approached by a moderately attractive Fili, but he brushed her off in search of more interesting fare.

He went to the bar for a drink, and struck a conversation with a busty Indo. She was well-dressed and vivacious. A bit too hefty for the Shooter's taste, but for him the personality is an important factor. She also had a hint of nympho about her.

Looking around, there were one or two points of interest. The best alternative was an Ava Devine lookalike (young version). After that there was a Fili with Kardashian curves squeezed into leather pants. Wowser!

The Shooter opted to stick with the Indo and leave the Filis for his AC trip. He spent HKD 550 on drinks and in his tired state he negotiated badly her fee at USD 200. USD 100 + HKD 100 for taxi was probably the right price for that lady at that time (2 am) in that place (no other customers). She might even have gone for taxi money, she was certainly game for a good shagging! Still, USD200 is about HKD1500, which is quite a common rate in the HK scene.

Basically the Shooter wasn't bothered either way but wanted to try the experience. There was a raw sexual energy about her that he could not resist.

Back in the hotel, she was all over him like a rash. The foreplay is probably the best part of a bar pickup when it emulates boy-meets-girl. It gets boring when they just strip off and shower and go straight into the heavy stuff. It's great to smooch and grapple and struggle out of clothes in awkward clinches.

After some great foreplay, she eventually went for a shower then got on top and basically fucked him to death in Cowboy position for 2 hours. He laid back and provided the tent pole upon which she impaled herself with incredible energy. She came countless times.

The Shooter had taken another 5 MG Cialis, which did the trick in terms of maintaining wood over such a long period. Afterwards he had bruises on his shoulders where her elbows dug in. It was a unique experience for the Shooter, albeit a bit monotonous at times! Occasionally she allowed him to use some different positions, but she always went back to cowboy.

Finally at 4:30 am he insisted on coming so that he could get a snippet of sleep, and relief for his poor old dick, which was started to feel chafed. A quick bit of BB mish did the trick and he splurged over her stomach.

She admitted that she had taken Ice beforehand and that was the secret of her Energizer-bunny performance. The Shooter was glad to be flying to Angeles so that he could take a rest. He snoozed for an hour, then packed, checked out of the hotel and kissed her farewell.

He couldn't be fucked to take the metro so he splashed out on a taxi to the airport (HKD350). It was 20 hours in Hong Kong well spent.

JackTheLad2
12-15-14, 20:49
He couldn't be fucked to take the metro so he splashed out on a taxi to the airport (HKD350). It was 20 hours in Hong Kong well spent.What can I say again?

Pure dead brilliant!

Mighty Spearsman
12-16-14, 15:28
The Shooter arrived in Hong Kong on a Sunday morning. This was a 1-day stopover en route to Angeles, but he was determined to try out the notorious DH (Domestic Helper) scene.

He feared the worst: a failure to fellate.

his cock elected to erectGreat report!

FF (failure to fellate)? I do believe that we have a new term for the "Abbreviations" list.

"elected to erect" - both poetry and alliteration. A buddy of mine teaches English at a local university, I think I'll forward this post to him.

Weben
12-16-14, 19:05
Please learn a little about the traditions and culture of the countries that you visit. My hint to you in this case is the term 'white tiger' (白虎 / bi hǔ).

And yes, it is possible to get great service from many PRC girls if you have the right attitude. Not everyone wants to do things the way they do it "back in the States" or by some other ethnocentric western standard...Having worked, lived and traveled nearly all over the world I am very aware of cultural differences. I find your example of Vietnam interesting as I lived there and had an amazing Viet girlfriend who was proud of the fact she had very little public hair (which was perfect). Maybe her view was like that because she was educated, wealthy and not from the countryside. Actually, I hooked up with a woman from District 8 who was more from the countryside and even she was nicely trimmed. Speaking of which, I was lucky to have my passport card as my passport was at my residence and you cannot get a hotel room without proper I'd and I it was too late to get back to my place from District 8 (so, remember you passport card fellas).

So, I have also had Chinese women with both nicely trimmed / shaved and very bushy ones. And these are not ABC (American born Chinese) women. I don't need completely bare, I just like to have a clear path and less obstruction when I DATY. Also, the Chinese women I have asked to shave / trim actually tend to find it more comfortable, continue with the grooming, and have told me they feel more attractive. And this is from one in particular who is very traditional Chinese. As you know, they have theories on wealth and success, or the adverse, based on attributes like the size of a woman's nose, large moles, small ankles, etc. But, that doesn't mean they all believe or follow every tradition or superstition; particularly in HK where many Chinese women desire the more western style customs.

And, along with learning to speak Mandarin and Vietnamese when I worked in those countries, being a history buff I am very aware of traditions and culture. In fact, I usually know more about the root or history of Asian traditions than some of the Chinese people I have meet. That is why I do generally get great service from 141 girls, even as a gwei lo, because I can hold a bit of a conversation if their English is not great.

Ikksman
12-17-14, 01:38
Having worked, lived and traveled nearly all over the world I am very aware of cultural differences. {S N I P} Interesting that you did not dispute the well-documented Chinese traditions and superstitions I gave that related to pubic hair. That is, unless you were stereotyping half a billion rural Chinese based on a few examples that you happened to meet, who I bet were not "fresh off the farm" (otherwise you would have said so).

And the topic of this discussion is not personal preferences but your statement "if only someone would explain to them they should shave".

Ikksman
"No need to expose fools. They expose themselves!"

P.S. If you want to start a "my dick is bigger than your dick" competition, please have consideration for other members and do it via PM.

Acejack
12-17-14, 02:33
Has anyone else been done?

It makes sense to lock up your money and valuables before you go out but I was a victim last year via pair of Wanchai ladies drugging me.

Because I only carry 1 card and enough cash for the night it probably only cost me around 1500 rmb but never the less its a weird feeling waking up in the morning.

Without having a clue as to what transpired the night before.

A friend of mine was less fortunate recently and had some computer equipment taken from his room.

Obviously the girls will only take the stuff that easily fits in a purse like an iPhone or something similar as they will need to avoid attention when leaving a 5 star hotel.

But HK I think has more than its fair share of predators looking for their next victim.

If you are speaking with 2 girls who appear to be friends in Wanchai make sure to purchase your own drinks and never take your eye of them for even the slightest moment.

But other than that have fun and a Merry Christmas to all.

FreebieFan
12-17-14, 02:58
Has anyone else been done?

It makes sense to lock up your money and valuables before you go out but I was a victim last year via pair of Wanchai ladies drugging me.

Because I only carry 1 card and enough cash for the night it probably only cost me around 1500 rmb but never the less its a weird feeling waking up in the morning.

Without having a clue as to what transpired the night before.

A friend of mine was less fortunate recently and had some computer equipment taken from his room.

Obviously the girls will only take the stuff that easily fits in a purse like an iPhone or something similar as they will need to avoid attention when leaving a 5 star hotel.

But HK I think has more than its fair share of predators looking for their next victim.

If you are speaking with 2 girls who appear to be friends in Wanchai make sure to purchase your own drinks and never take your eye of them for even the slightest moment.

But other than that have fun and a Merry Christmas to all.Read about the two expats who went to Wanchai but left the city in body bags. Maybe 2-3 years ago. They were given too much of whatever the drug used was.

Acejack
12-17-14, 03:14
Read about the two expats who went to Wanchai but left the city in body bags. Maybe 2-3 years ago. They were given too much of whatever the drug used was.Freebie.

Wonder what drug they are using?

Can tell you I woke up not hungover and feeling disoriented.

Uncle Goober2
12-17-14, 05:34
Freebie.

Wonder what drug they are using?

Can tell you I woke up not hungover and feeling disoriented.Word at the time was that it was cocaine.

Perhaps cut with a less than ideal or even contaminated substance.

But they were not given the drug in a scam. They reportedly bought the drugs and just over-indulged.

Cheers.

YellowFevers
12-17-14, 09:43
Last time I was in HK both wingmen with me got done. One was totally KO, and was woken up by the Police banging on the door, as they had been following her for a while- managed to catch her with some of his stuff. I think the other girl had put it on her nipples, possibly as well as the drink route, but he didn't get stung that time as he is a very big fella, and only felt very groggy and disorientated, apparently. This was a while ago, and had forgotten about it until read this, but it still pays to be careful and keep alert for the obvious signs from the start. In hindsight, surprised there is not more reporting of this as it is a very easy way to some $, for the ladies. If they don't get caught by regular use of the tactic!

Stay safe and keep alert.

Yf.


Has anyone else been done?

It makes sense to lock up your money and valuables before you go out but I was a victim last year via pair of Wanchai ladies drugging me.

Because I only carry 1 card and enough cash for the night it probably only cost me around 1500 rmb but never the less its a weird feeling waking up in the morning.

Without having a clue as to what transpired the night before.

A friend of mine was less fortunate recently and had some computer equipment taken from his room.

Obviously the girls will only take the stuff that easily fits in a purse like an iPhone or something similar as they will need to avoid attention when leaving a 5 star hotel.

But HK I think has more than its fair share of predators looking for their next victim.

If you are speaking with 2 girls who appear to be friends in Wanchai make sure to purchase your own drinks and never take your eye of them for even the slightest moment.

But other than that have fun and a Merry Christmas to all.

AngeelK
12-18-14, 11:54
Hi everyone,

My first post here. My fiend, a Spanish monger and I, Venezuelan monger went to HK to get our visas to Mainland China done. We had few days to spent while we were waiting for that. So on a Sunday night we decided to check what was going on.

Sorry I don't remember the first place name but it is on Sai Yeung Choi st with Mong Kok street, this place is right on the corner, you will see pictures of lovely Asian girls in Bikini, similar to dundas entrance.

There are two floors, we went to the first one and the guy who opened the door told us it was a karaoke club and closed the door. Damn! Ok that's it we are leaving. I thought but the Spanish monger said to go upstairs and try. And yes, probably is the same place.

An older lady opened the door, "what do you want" I replied we want girl!! Ok come in. She said. Good! This place was quiet, nice bar, the lady took us to a. Yes a karaoke room, big TV a table in the middle, an en suite toilet and a semi circular seat. She came back quickly and explained the prices: 300 HKD for the girl, 1 hour. 400 HKD for the table (to use the place basically) and we would get two drinks. Nice! We asked for a bottle of whisky and she brought a Chivas regal for 300 HKD (probably not CR but it was fine, still cheap) This 3 weeks ago.

She came back with the ladies, 5 very beautiful girls, she said it was Sunday so there were not many girls working. I immediately chose the best I think. A stunner! Big tits, nice body, lovely face she was 11/10! The Spanish monger also chose one very pretty with a hot body maybe 8/10. She took him to another room. I couldn't believe my fucking eyes I was paying the equivalent of 30 euros for 1 hour fun with this hottie. Con, no English at all and some fake moan. No problem she gave me a BJ of my life, I thought she was going to rip my dick off at some point, hot and cold BJ, she licked my nipples like there was no tomorrow. Well BBBJ, DATY 69, she was OK with fingering, she had a Bush and I played with the hair, she liked it haha. But to be honest this was my very first time in a place like this, yes I'm a newbie so I couldn't blow my load, I had this tension. Whatever. I have to say the girl had a super good attitude, very willing, nothing mechanical, this girl wanted to eat me alive! She genuinely seemed to like me.

Well I was happy, the Spanish monger had finished before so I met him at the bar and we went to the first room to drink our bottle of whisky. He said to me "you have to the the girls I just saw outside when I was waiting for you! Like 15/10! Trust me!

Anyway he had another brilliant idea!, let's get another girl! Well same procedure, 300 HKD 1 hour and again 400 HKD for the "table".

Another line up, this time 4 girls, good looking but the first line up was better. I chose one maybe 9/10 also big tits, less ass than the first one but also very willing, and immediately grabbed my cock. She was a bit crazy, loud! But in a positive way. This time I was the one taken to another room. Japanese porn on TV, I told her to turn the tv off. That shit distracted me. Well same excellent BBBJ, DATY, awesome 69, I fucked her in different positions but still my load was absent haha.

She was determined to get it out, another BJ directly looking at me with that lovely face until I couldn't resist any more and exploded CIM. She cleaned me and I called it a day.

I really think that this place do not accept foreigners, but it was a quiet Sunday and maybe they needed some customers. We left for M. China and returned but this time on the first floor the same BS, this is a karaoke club only", 2nd floor "this place is full" and closed the door. We didn't try anything in M. China, we went to Shenzhen and Shanghai to visit some factories and came back tired all the time. But in Shanghai we were offered sex maybe times. Also a lot of scams going on there.

We wanted more so we decided to go to K-pressure.

AngeelK
12-18-14, 13:43
After been bounced! From that amazing place I reported before the second time we try to get in, we went to K- Pressure. I had done my research about this place and I kinda knew what to expect. There are reports of how to get there so I will skip that part. Once inside this lady very friendly takes us to a room, she explains that we need to pay 380 HKD for 45 minutes with the WG. And another 180 HKD for the room. More expensive than our loved first place and less time, anyway ok fine bring the girls. No line up here, she will bring one by one. Jesus Christ! The first two they brought were horrible, sorry but that is the best word to describe them. Mine was wearing baggy clothes!, face was like 2/10, The Spanish monger's girl was better, face was 4/10 but body was 7/10, we both said to mamasan NO. Second girl was better, mamasan says my girl "speaks English" but the other one doesn't. Spanish monger says again no and tells me if this bullshit continues we leave. We were not happy with these girls, when we got there we saw some lovely girls so why are they bringing these ones? But I wasn't picky today I took this girl, face 7/10 but body 6/10 big tits, completely flat butt. Hongkonese 30 yo aprox.

Same procedure described in other posts,. She takes you to take a shower, there BBBJ, good one but nothing very special. After showering more BJ, better technique now. Japanese porn on TV, this time that doesn't distract me. Nipple suck, HJ etc she was professional not really GFE but still good. Her nipples were like if she had breastfeed 500 children in her life. Still no problem. I told her to put her little bum on my face for a 69 but I realised she was not wet. And her pussy was a bit strange. Anyway she puts the condom on and I fucked her, while doing it I could see it hurt a bit so she told me to change position, missionary. Ok then things got better. She started to enjoy it and after a while my cock was soaked with her juice. She was moaning a lot, seemed genuine, although she could be a good actress. Thing turned even better she hugged me like she was in love or some shit. This tiny girl, no better looking than the previous two was doing it for me, didn't DATY though. After a while of GFE fucking the time is almost up so she said she was going to make me cum with her hand, so a HJ then. Ok I have to say it has been the best HJ in my life. In 3 minutes I was shooting my load. She put a lot of baby oil and she had that technique of grabbing my balls and tugging my cock at the same time, in a different way, dunno. It was really good! I was finally happy with this place and the service. I went outside I met the Spanish monger. He went downstairs and the girls were better (I think is the same place or maybe a night club) he did one there.

We left and on the way to our place we saw some "walking" girls in the same area. There was a price list, Russians were the most expensive ones 880 HKD but we finally went home.

Overall, good place, but I tell you if you can try that place I can't remember the name but it is on Mong kok road with Sai Yeung Choi on a corner.

This Venezuelan monger is off to Berlin for new years eve, I haven't decided what to do yet, Bordello, GB party, Saunas. I will report latter.

Traveller747
12-18-14, 18:54
Last time in Hongkong I tried a hotel walk-up from go141.com. I chose a nice girl in Wanchai for 800 HKD and called the manager, asking specifically for that girl. Yes, I was assured the picture is real and the girl is available. So I walked to the given hotel. Reaching the lobby I called again for the roomnumber. In the room I found 2 girls to choose from, none of them resembled the one I had in mind!

But one was a goodlooking, tall and slim girl from mainlandchina; she had a big, natural chest with cherrysized nipples, a flat butt and she even spoke some english. So my decision was easy.

The other girl left the room while I took a shower. On the bed we started caressing each other, she enjoyed DFK and was fascinated by the hair on my chest and belly. The size of an average western male equipment seemed uncommon to her, but she appreciated it. We did CBJ, CG, Miss. And Doggy. It was so good, that I returned the next day for the same girl!

Makeupaname
12-19-14, 08:50
Does anyone if the DH disco scene happens during the day on Christmas eve or Christmas day?

Chantik
12-19-14, 15:34
Christmas day is the best day of punting because most guys, whether married or single have commitments. It's impossible to miss out on Christmas day.

Tiger 888
12-19-14, 23:51
Does anyone if the DH disco scene happens during the day on Christmas eve or Christmas day?Christmas eve is not a public holiday in HK, but the 2 following days are. They are not statutory holidays though so not all DHs will have a day off.

http://www.labour.gov.hk/eng/news/latest_holidays2014.htm

Makeupaname
12-20-14, 02:14
Ok, so yes it seems some DHs will have Christmas day off, but will the discos (new makiti, neptune 3, hk cafe, bar 109, etc.) be open during the day on the 25th?

i have no commitment that day, and will head to HK if i know its comparable to a sunday.