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{S N I P}Vacation Rentals in Hong Kong are broken down into subcategories. Hong Kong Island, Kowloon, Sai Kung, and Tsim Sha Tsui. At the risk of embarrassing myself again, can you recommend which of those locations I should be looking in?
SimonDifficult to recommend without knowing your preferences and $ painpoints. But prices are always a bit cheaper further out from the main areas (but still less that 30 minutes by taxi). Just avoid crossing the harbour by taxi. Check hotels on tripadvisor and be aware that HKI hotel prices jump when there is a big convention in town.
I have had a look at some travel websites, seems this hotel (and possibly others) are advertised as in Shenzhen, Hong Kong. Perhaps a ploy to get customers who actually intend to travel to Hong Kong. Maybe this is the reason the OP thought he was staying in Hing Kong.
Teltel.You are right! There seems to be a whole bunch of vacation rentals available at Futian Port all near the Sheraton FourPoint and all having the location shown as in Luohu about 12 Km away (possibly so that the HK / PRC border does not show on the map)? And the prices are double what one would pay if one booked the same apartments direct (but even so, quite cheap compared to HK). Smells fishy to me!
Ikksman
P.S. The location of the apartments is close to both Futian Port (1 hour 35 minutes to Hung Hom / TST by train) and Huanggang Port (1 hour 10 minutes to Wanchai by bus). So still pretty close to HK areas of interest. Huanggang Guan is the only 24 hour entry point. I have stayed at the Sheraton Four Point (business tower suites are really nice) and commuted daily to HK for one third of the cost of staying at an equivalent hotel in HKI).
Hello all,{S N I P}
Here till Wednesday, will probably go out again each night to see what I can find but I'm not holding my breath since the DHs will most likely not be around during the week.
Thoughts?I have posted previously (more than once), how to find DHers during the week (such as at World Wide Plaza). But be aware most DHers need to get home by 8 or 9 pm, and their home may be one hour away in the New Territories (train then bus).
If only visiting HK for a few days mid-week it is best to use dating sites to get DHers who have free time that meets your schedule. Again, the methodology has been posted here previously.
Ikksman
AzGunRunner
04-27-15, 16:14
I have posted previously (more than once), how to find DHers during the week (such as at World Wide Plaza). But be aware most DHers need to get home by 8 or 9 pm, and their home may be one hour away in the New Territories (train then bus).
If only visiting HK for a few days mid-week it is best to use dating sites to get DHers who have free time that meets your schedule. Again, the methodology has been posted here previously.
IkksmanRight on, thanks for the feedback. I'll search for the earlier posts.
Brown Rail
04-28-15, 07:20
Finally I had the opportunity to visit bar 109 on a Sunday! I showed up around 4 pm, from what I heard a little late maybe, but I couldn't get out of bed earlier.Great report. Thank you!
Yes, 109 on Sunday morning can be wild. More than a few times I have caught a girl's hands in my pocket, but I have never had anything stolen! And occasionally the girls will have no panty under that short skirt. It can be great fun. The downside is that most of the girls there want to be paid and the drinks are expensive. But it is still a blast and Ming Court is nearby.
Best tough is to arrive earlier. I think it gets going about 11, and by 3 the crowd starts to move to other bars.
Hi guys,
Please could anyone recommended any good massage parlor that offers tantric / nuru massage, try the 141 web site but it is fake and to be honest, most of the pics in 141 are fake.. So please be aware of that.
Hi guys,
Please could anyone recommended any good massage parlor that offers tantric / nuru massage, try the 141 web site but it is fake and to be honest, most of the pics in 141 are fake.. So please be aware of that.Also note that all the pics on the HK Craigslist "Therapeutic" section are fake. The Google reverse-image-search tool is so useful.
Search here for Daily Spa. It's nuru, full-service, very high quality, but expensive. I've also tried Coral Spa in TST, which is tantric with HE, no BJ / FS, nice looking girls in a good environment, but again, premium prices.
Just a couple of thoughts. YMMV.
Also note that all the pics on the HK Craigslist "Therapeutic" section are fake. The Google reverse-image-search tool is so useful.
Search here for Daily Spa. It's nuru, full-service, very high quality, but expensive. I've also tried Coral Spa in TST, which is tantric with HE, no BJ / FS, nice looking girls in a good environment, but again, premium prices.
Just a couple of thoughts. YMMV.Thanks for the information, will definitely try the places you have mentioned. Is there any other place you can recommend?
Thanks
I think the original poster was using "troll" as a verb, meaning to fish using a baited line, in which case the usage is not at all pejorative and refers only to trolling for companions.
GE.
I am extremely tolerant wrt bad spelling and grammar, but sometimes poor English can impart the wrong meaning or at least confuse the reader.
Troll
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll
Perhaps "trawl" was the word intended to be used. Some (many?) readers would not pick this up, and thus the esteemed JacktheLad2 could hereafter be labelled a "troll" in the minds of those readers.
Or perhaps the writer deliberately labelled our Lad as a "troll"? But who knows, unless the question is raised!
Other common potentially misleading errors include:
Using the word "inciteful" when "insightful" was the intended meaning.
Failing to distinguish between HKD and USD (or other $) - might be obvious to HK residents and frequent visitors, but . . .
Ikksman
Yikes! There be a troll (or Troll) in this here forum with a big pole sticking out of its eye (maybe arse) and a foot in its mouth (or both feet)!
To paraphrase something else written a couple millennia ago, we are fishermen. IMHO, JTL might have better luck with a handsum wallet as a lure. Good for catching ladies and sailfish. Though, for the latter, the captain usually takes a much bigger bite than many ladies.
Many ladies will ask you to buy them a dildo later, in private.
(HKD, HK$ or the official currency of the HKSAR) 15.
Remember, Google and RTFF are your friends.
Now, back to our regular programming... Where did Lancelot leave off....Think someone was asking about meeting DH on weekdays. Friday is actually a holiday so there would be many DH who have the day off. For various reasons, I have arranged for a DH I know to get permission to stay out Friday and maybe Saturday night. A good mate is in town and I plan to have her bump into us at NIII mid afternoon. Hopefully that will put a smile back on his face before his flight. LOL.
JackTheLad2
04-30-15, 16:20
Think someone was asking about meeting DH on weekdays. Friday is actually a holiday so there would be many DH who have the day off. .Bear in mind quite a few DH only work during the day and have the evening off. I met a couple recently who basically had the evening off, only working during the day.
They could be found in NM (have not tried there since it got quiet after the murder) but I also got lucky in Insiders where a couple of DH were regularly there every night. The usual DH rates applied!
Johnny Rocket
04-30-15, 17:51
I enjoy your post Mvulane, but a "gift" of 0-500 HKD as payment for sex is only possible if the girl really like you. Some of the Philippine or Indonesian DH's might be happy with this arrangement for one night, but believe me this is rare! You must be lucky, good looking, well behaved etc. Maybe you are. And then you could try your luck in some of the bars in WanChai or LanKwaiFong. But with such skills. You might have luck with some of the western girls there also.
Working girls are there mainly for the money. 2000 HKD seems to be the standard asking price these days, but I always manage to negotiate down to 1000 HKD for sometimes an all-night. Take your time if you find a girl you like, give her some drinks. She will get tipsy, like you better, perform better in bed etc. If there is a good chemistry she will likely lower her bid! And you will get to know her better also and enjoy a good time in the bar. In my opinion the Philippine girls and the Indonesian girls are most likely to lower their price. Girls from Thailand and Vietnam is less desperate and will stick to their high price (not to mention the Columbian ladies.). It is up to you and your wallet, but please always remember to treat the girls nice even the price is low or high.This is true if you pick up in the bars, because the DHs in the bars are there to work. However in the past month I have picked up no fewer than 3 DHs off the street at various times of the day / week and been fucking them at an hourly within 20 minutes with no mention of money. They all accepted what I chose to give them (500) without complaint (one was reluctant to take anything!) and all gave me their numbers and wanted to meet me again. Lots of DHs between contracts or who are off on days other than Sunday or who live out (illegally) visit agencies or go to the Immigration Department or stay in boarding houses many of which are clustered in Wan Chai. If you have the guts to walk up to a girl who makes eyes at you and go for the gold straight away the hit rate is relatively high. I don't consider myself good looking, but I am a nice guy and I think that shows through quickly. YMMV.
Question: Is it a common habit with Filipinas that they just stand you up when you schedule a date with them? 2 different Filipinas have done this to me in the past few months. One I made a date to meet her and she didn't show after half an hour and couldn't reach her by text, phone, e-mail, anything. She finally got in touch with me 2 weeks later from a different number and claimed to have been in a taxi accident that destroyed her phone. Gave her the benefit of the doubt and fucked her a couple more times then she did it again a few weeks ago and I haven't heard from her. So even if I hear from her again I won't make plans with her. But another Filipina did the same thing last week. Didn't show up and not reachable by text, phone, whatever, finally contacted me saying she'd lost her phone, but she'd texted me the day before and what a coincidence she loses her phone the day we are to meet then texts me later from the same number. Is losing a phone really that common? If I made as little money as they do I'd hold on to that fucking thing for dear life. Anyway that girl was not hot enough to get a second chance. Do any of you guys regularly get this line of BS from Filipinas? I thought they only told sob stories for money, what's in it for them to stand you up when you have a date planned? No Indo has ever done this to me.
Anyway. Enjoy the holiday weekend, have fun and stay safe.
Is losing a phone really that common?Filipinas never REALLY lose their phone, because that would require them to let go of the fucking thing for a moment.
Yes a few DH live out and work during the day. But do you think they have enough energy to work 10 to 12 hrs a day, and go out every night. I doubt it.
Johnny Rockets is accurate.
JackTheLad2
05-01-15, 13:25
Yes a few DH live out and work during the day. But do you think they have enough energy to work 10 to 12 hrs a day, and go out every night. I doubt it.You do your girls an injustice! They seem to have plenty energy and stamina. Ay least, the ones I have met.
Yes a few DH live out and work during the day. But do you think they have enough energy to work 10 to 12 hrs a day, and go out every night. I doubt it.
Johnny Rockets is accurate.I generally agree, but I have met DHers who illegally live out and they have 2 or more part-time jobs (often just cleaning for single people or childless couples). These girls do not necessarily work 10 to 12 hours per day, and may go out some nights if they feel the urge. And, of course they do not need to be home by 9:00pm!
Ikksman
Question: Is it a common habit with Filipinas that they just stand you up when you schedule a date with them?..Filipinas in general have no consept of "agreed time to meet". They always show up late for a date. I really don't know why but I think it has something to do with the so called "Phillipine Time"; the clock has no indicators whatsoever! It might not be true for all, but I have experienced this on at least 10 dates with Filipine girls. And yes, they do loose their phones at an alarming rate. Both in Hong Kong and at home. Very strange indeed.
Three Lions
05-02-15, 01:14
Does anybody feel like meeting up tonight and going for a few drinks, showing a newbie to Hong Kong the ropes in Wan Chai? Please do message if interested!
Seems to be a lots of talk about DHs here in the HK forum. So here goes.
I have only met one DH in my life ever. I never had any thoughts about having sex with her but quite early she was very flirty. She wanted to hold hands in public, making jokes about sex etc. I knew where this was going.
I honestly told her that we can be friends and she seemed surprised. " You do not want to have fun? " - she asked. I told her no. But we can be friends.
After our relationship grew (friends only) we have been talking about this Wanchai and LKF bar scene. She admitted that she had sex with men (mainly foreigners) for money. 1500 a night, or gifts or whatever. She told me that at least I must get something out of it first, - I am not going to let anyone take advantage of me for free. I got the impression that she got hurt previously by men when she involved her feelings in relationships.
Now she had multiple relationships with men at the same time, that either paid her or gave her gifts. All men she said only wanted her for sex. She did not have anything good to say about these men except that she made money from them. When describing it she seemed to enjoy it, but after talking about it more the happiness was just a facade. I am not going in to details about this one but lets just say she had been treated very bad a few times. Even so, money talks and had no plans to ending it.
This girl has a very charming personality, looks good and dress sexy. While working as a helper she did not make much money. Most of that money went back to her home country. The extra money she made, as I understood it she used herself to eat, to live, and buy clothes. The funny thing was that she had no problem spending 1500 HKD on sexy underwear but spending 80 HKD on a meal was " crazy expensive."
Working Monday to Saturday, she did not have much free time. The salary was bad, really bad. She could make more money in one night in Wanchai than in a whole month working as a helper. The free time was spent with friends partying, shopping or being on " dates ". She felt like her life was going nowhere, the same kind of friends, the same kind of men, the same kind of life. Everyday I asked if she wanted to start a new life and quit this all for once but she just looked at me with hopeless eyes. " I need the money ". Her only option was to find real love, Mr right. To marry and to live in a foreign country. The dream many girls dream of, but to most are just a dream. I been living in Europe all my life and I do not like it but I did not want to crush her dream so I kept quiet.
We had a walk down the harbor and talked about other more happy things. She told me about her family back home and I shared some of my life. After this day we met up a few more times and who knows I might end up having a good friend for life.
Anyway, I really enjoy talking to her. She is very open about everything and allowed me to get a glimpse into a world that I had no idea about before I met her.
I generally agree, but I have met DHers who illegally live out and they have 2 or more part-time jobs (often just cleaning for single people or childless couples). These girls do not necessarily work 10 to 12 hours per day, and may go out some nights if they feel the urge. And, of course they do not need to be home by 9:00pm!
IkksmanI wonder if you are discussing ladies who are here illegally (overstayed dh visa) or ladies who have applied for asylum. They often have part time jobs during the day and at night.
My post was referring to DH who have a legal visa.
As Johnny Rocket posted there are many different situations.
Seems to be a lots of talk about DHs here in the HK forum. So here goes.
I have only met one DH in my life ever. I never had any thoughts about having sex with her but quite early she was very flirty. She wanted to hold hands in public, making jokes about sex etc. I knew where this was going.
Anyway, I really enjoy talking to her. She is very open about everything and allowed me to get a glimpse into a world that I had no idea about before I met her.Very interesting insight about DH. The behind the scenes about the life of what we can call a P4 PDH. It might be a pretty common situation showing also the internal conflicts these girls go through. From spending "lots of money" in lingerie (does she rate that as an investment?) to being super saver on food (which, for a girl theoretically finding hard to make ends meet, should be the priority). Life on the edge with poor concern of future as sooner or later she will find out that her shelf life will be over and she will be left to the daily struggle of the pure DH income, with no Mr Love in sight.
Seen also the lack of free time, during which she gets her main income, wasn't she "wasting" her time with you, aware you were in target either as a sponsor or as a possible future Mr Love?
Johnny Rocket
05-03-15, 05:22
Filipinas in general have no consept of "agreed time to meet". They always show up late for a date. I really don't know why but I think it has something to do with the so called "Phillipine Time"; the clock has no indicators whatsoever! It might not be true for all, but I have experienced this on at least 10 dates with Filipine girls. And yes, they do loose their phones at an alarming rate. Both in Hong Kong and at home. Very strange indeed.Yes but I was in contact with that girl via e-mail too so there's really no excuse. She just disappeared. Ah well plenty of fish in the South China Sea.
Johnny Rocket
05-03-15, 05:55
I have posted previously (more than once), how to find DHers during the week (such as at World Wide Plaza). But be aware most DHers need to get home by 8 or 9 pm, and their home may be one hour away in the New Territories (train then bus).
If only visiting HK for a few days mid-week it is best to use dating sites to get DHers who have free time that meets your schedule. Again, the methodology has been posted here previously.
IkksmanI'm less keen on World Wide House. Almost all the girls there are there with friends and it's harder to get them to leave their friends and come with you. I also have less balls to walk up to a group of girls than I do to walk up to a girl that's on her own.
It's also very crowded so it's harder to be discreet, and you are likely to be the only gwailo there and you get a lot of weird looks.
But if anyone has a successful technique they use for such situations at WWH or elsewhere please feel free to share. .
I wonder if you are discussing ladies who are here illegally (overstayed dh visa) or ladies who have applied for asylum. They often have part time jobs during the day and at night.
My post was referring to DH who have a legal visa.
As Johnny Rocket posted there are many different situations.I understood that you were referring to DHers who have legal visas, and yes, as JR says that are many different situations.
Most DHers that I have met over the years have been with families with children and work from 6:00 or 7:00 am to 10:00 or 11:00 pm. They could never go out at night even if they wanted to.
I'm less keen on World Wide House. {S N I P}
But if anyone has a successful technique they use for such situations at WWH or elsewhere please feel free to share. .I simply give a very slight smile to a girl, whether or not she is with friends or alone, and only approach those who respond positively in some way. If they are with friends, I often only get a mobile number (and chat with them later), but I have also found plenty of girls who have been alone. I think being crowded just increases one's chances of success.
I also approach DHers in the immediate vicinity of WWH. And not just at street level or in the MTR exits, but in the surrounding covered walkways connecting Chater House and Alexandra House etc.
Perhaps you might feel less pressure in some of the less crowded outlying areas where DHers meet. I do recommend Shatin New Town Plaza where I have met both Pinays and Indos. There are often girls who are simply waiting to meet another DH for some reason other than spending the rest of the day with them (such as repaying a loan. Haha).
Take a deep breathe and go for it. The rewards are worthwhile. I even have Pinay and Indo ex-freebies who I still chat to (on Wechat and Whatsapp), and they even introduce me to new friends. And I admit that I have helped a few financially who I knew were in genuine need (no sick carabao tho' - haha).
Ikksman
Very interesting insight about DH. The behind the scenes about the life of what we can call a P4 PDH. It might be a pretty common situation showing also the internal conflicts these girls go through. From spending "lots of money" in lingerie (does she rate that as an investment?) to being super saver on food (which, for a girl theoretically finding hard to make ends meet, should be the priority). Life on the edge with poor concern of future as sooner or later she will find out that her shelf life will be over and she will be left to the daily struggle of the pure DH income, with no Mr Love in sight.
Seen also the lack of free time, during which she gets her main income, wasn't she "wasting" her time with you, aware you were in target either as a sponsor or as a possible future Mr Love?The lingerie part just made me laugh, she was dead serious about it. She usually send me pictures of her new sexy underwear and complains about how much it costs. But still feel a need to buy it rather than good food. LOL.
I think that she saw me as a potential "customer " in the beginning but then realized that our conversations actually had more depth in it than just sex. That's when I feel she start opening up more about her life. She still trying from time to time but more as a joke. Then she calls me boring because I do not respond to it. Now when I know about her life, I think she feel comfortable that she do not have to lie about anything while talking to me. I kind of feel the same way.
After the last time we met, (yes in my hotel room) she texted me and said. You really don't think I am sexy right? I asked why? - Because you do not get horny after seeing me in underwear. I told her that I could not do that to a friend but even if I wanted to I did not have much money anyway. She said, well I would give you for free stupid! Do you think I am a hooker?!
Ehhh, no. What can I say in that kind of situation? LOL. Then I just told her that I felt she was very sexy and beautiful but we better remain friends. To find a good man to take care of her bla bla bla.
Yes she is a strange one but always puts a smile in my face. .
Johnny Rocket
05-03-15, 18:07
I understood that you were referring to DHers who have legal visas, and yes, as JR says that are many different situations.
Most DHers that I have met over the years have been with families with children and work from 6:00 or 7:00 am to 10:00 or 11:00 pm. They could never go out at night even if they wanted to.
I simply give a very slight smile to a girl, whether or not she is with friends or alone, and only approach those who respond positively in some way. If they are with friends, I often only get a mobile number (and chat with them later), but I have also found plenty of girls who have been alone. I think being crowded just increases one's chances of success.
I also approach DHers in the immediate vicinity of WWH. And not just at street level or in the MTR exits, but in the surrounding covered walkways connecting Chater House and Alexandra House etc.
Perhaps you might feel less pressure in some of the less crowded outlying areas where DHers meet. I do recommend Shatin New Town Plaza where I have met both Pinays and Indos. There are often girls who are simply waiting to meet another DH for some reason other than spending the rest of the day with them (such as repaying a loan. Haha).
Take a deep breathe and go for it. The rewards are worthwhile. I even have Pinay and Indo ex-freebies who I still chat to (on Wechat and Whatsapp), and they even introduce me to new friends. And I admit that I have helped a few financially who I knew were in genuine need (no sick carabao tho' - haha).
IkksmanI know you're right and I just need a little more balls.
About them introducing you to friends, I've had that happen. The Filipina who recently disappeared on me said she wanted to watch me fuck her friend. She said the friend had met some old white guy who lasted only 2 minutes and left her unsatisfied (Hopefully it wasn't one of you guys! Whereas I had been in the habit of giving this girl a solid hour (just of penetration, that's after dining at her why, that's right boys, there is some advantage to aging!) and she wanted her friend to have some too. Too bad I never got to meet the friend before the girl disappeared. Sigh.
Sexy underwear! - Indo ladies are competitive when it comes to clothes and the like. One has $4000 shoes and the next one will buy $5000 shoes and it continues on and on. Someof the Indo ladies wear expensive foot-wear.
Sexy underwear! - Indo ladies are competitive when it comes to clothes and the like. One has $4000 shoes and the next one will buy $5000 shoes and it continues on and on. Someof the Indo ladies wear expensive foot-wear.Not a very smart move when the kids need money for school. Luckily there are plenty with a sense for reality.
Brown Rail
05-04-15, 02:25
Question: Is it a common habit with Filipinas that they just stand you up when you schedule a date with them?
Anyway. Enjoy the holiday weekend, have fun and stay safe.Yes, it is true. Filipinos have a well earned reputation for being unreliable. They are usually late, keeping "Filipino Time" often change plans at the last minute and sometimes don't show at all. I find that even when I am with them, if we have a schedule to keep I am constantly pushing them to get going. If our meeting is at 3, there is no getting them out of the house till at least 3. No matter how far in advance you ask them to get ready. No matter how far our event is. As an aside, just try doing business in the Philippines. It requires the utmost flexibility and patience. After a few weeks there I just want to scream! But I keep going back. Which says something.
Of course not all. With new girls I have in the past practiced lining up 2-3 dates on a Saturday or Sunday, just to make sure that I was going to have a good day. Just line them up a few hours apart and in different locations. Then you are flexible. If the first one does show, you can put the second one off a few hours. It is unlikely all three will show, so you will have 1 or 2 good dates. The good news is that there are 150,000 of them. It takes practice, but good luck!
Sexy underwear! - Indo ladies are competitive when it comes to clothes and the like. One has $4000 shoes and the next one will buy $5000 shoes and it continues on and on. Someof the Indo ladies wear expensive foot-wear.Very competitive it seems. I noticed the expensive shoes and clothes but I do not get the point of the underwear. Not many people would see those anyway. I think her dress (very classy look) cost around 2000 HKD, shoes I have no idea but it looked expensive, MK watch (not sure if it was real or fake) etc. To most people it might seem stupid to waste money on those type of things but then I am guessing that is one of the few things in life that they enjoy.
I can remember when I was around 20 something years old, everything I wanted was a beautiful car. Wasted around 35 K on a set of nice rims, and on it went. Stupid, but I enjoyed it at the time until I realized I just lost around 200 K in depreciation.
Has anyone been to Sun Hot Sauna on Prat St recently? I was looking for it last week, but could only find a sauna with lots of neon signage saying Daily Spa, so I don't know if it's the same place. The elevator doors street entrance put me off from going in, as I don't want to be hanging around in public waiting for the elevator.
Has anyone been to Sun Hot Sauna on Prat St recently? I was looking for it last week, but could only find a sauna with lots of neon signage saying Daily Spa, so I don't know if it's the same place. The elevator doors street entrance put me off from going in, as I don't want to be hanging around in public waiting for the elevator.The name of the street is prat avenue and the name of the sauna is not daily spa, but daily sauna. What I have heard it is purely veggie now. Daily spa is the place with extras.
If you are willng to fork out 2000 plus tips, that is the place to go.
http://www.dailyspahk.com/
Hello all,
I am new to this forum and want to thank everyone for sharing their experiences in Hong Kong. I will be in Hong Kong for a couple of days later this week. I would like to try a spa in the TST area that's less expensive that the daily spa. I looked on go 141 and saw a bunch of different spas. Can anyone suggest some of those to me. I was looking at dream spa because they say the have nuru. Also was looking at angel spa and the best spa. Any recommendations would be great. Thank you. I also read about 6 years worth of this thread and some of the other threads. I didn't see to much on spas besides the daily spa. Should I just stick to the massage on the 141 walk ups? I just wanted to try some new on my second trip to Hong Kong.
I got a good flight deal to go from L. A. To Hong Kong. I took a side trip to the P. I. , then ended the trip in Macau. Only had two day in Hong Kong so much of the time was doing the tourist stuff. With such little time to play, I had to decide between K pressure or a 141 girl.
I decided to visit a 141 girl. Gigi from the King Hing building. 10th floor A3. The building is easy to find, 52 - 54 Argyle st. Mong Kok. Near the mtr station. As I walk into the building, two guys are waiting for the elevator. Two other guys were waiting but then decided to walk up the stairs. I took the stairs also. Man, was it hot and humid climbing those stairs. By the time I got to the 10th floor, my tee shirt was soaked. I go to A3 but the wait sign was up. Figures, the other two guys were knocking on doors so I tried to see what the girls look liked when they answered the door. None to my liking. I'am thinking, maybe I should just head out to K Pressure. But then I remember, there was another girl with good reviews on the 10th floor. Her name is Carmen and she is in A5.
I ring the bell and a decent looking lady opens the door. I'am thinking early to mid 30's. She does have a little gut but I was all in, and had a great time. Once the door closes, she helps me undress and hangs my clothes on some hangars. Her room is pretty small. She then leads me to the shower, where she washes me everywhere. I really needed this shower. In the shower she gave me a preview BBBJ which felt great and my hands were roaming all over her body.
After the shower, I get on the bed waiting for her to finish up her shower. Once out of the shower, she gives me a good massage. Then while still facing down, she gives me a full body cat bath with plenty of rimming. After a while I DATY on her which turns into 69 and she gets very wet. From there we go to CG, then finish off in mish. The only thing that would have made this session better for me, more dfking. She did DFK, just not a lot.
After getting dressed, I asked her how much. She said $500. I think Gigi was $400 but what the heck, I had a good time with her. Paid and left with a smile, until I hit the hot and humid staircase. If interested, my trip continues in the P. I.
Finally had some time on my hands to do some mongering last week.
It has been a long time so I thought, what the heck we only live once, I will spend all the money I saved on some treat.
After long deliberations, I found an escort which I could book directly for out-call.
We had some email exchanges about the services a. S. o. Which all sounded swell and promising so I booked her for 3 K HKD, she did not really offer anal and BBBJ, but that was OK for me this time.
Long story short we met up in Victoria Hotel (still my favourite short term romp place).
She arrived and although she was of course not exactly the age advertised she was in good shape, very hot and VERY friendly, which totally works for me.
We chit chatted relaxed and without rush and proceeded to the deed. She turned out to be a light skinned Brazilian.
Wow, was I in for a treat. Absolutely the best P4 P I ever had. Total passion for 45 minutes non stop until we both collapsed sweating and exhausted. She 110% gave me the feeling she enjoyed this and wanted more! Wow.
Looks 8-9.
Face 8.
Body 9.
Service 10+.
Overall 9-10.
Would repeat. Absolutely if I win the mark 6 .
So the next day I settled for something cheaper.
Called some hotel booking Chinese from 141 site in Wan Chai.
Was directed to a small hotel and went upstairs to the room number they gave.
Of course I did not get the advertised girl, but they gave me a parade of 4 young Mainland Chinese who spoke 100% only Mandarin, not even Cantonese (I can speak very basic Canto).
I picked a really nice and friendly young and skinny girl.
Although the girl was very good looking and skinny this was the 100% opposite to my escort experience.
For these pro Chinese girls this is a business transaction!
You paid for it, so they will deliver the goods. Get on with it and she will give you some fake moans.
Really not much GFE involved.
PM me if you want to know the escort girls details.
BTW. The escort girl mentioned she worked for an agency before, but stopped because the advertise fake model pictures and she usually got into big arguments when she arrived, because she was not the girl the customer booked.
Ciao.
JackTheLad2
05-13-15, 09:21
Which all sounded swell and promising so I booked her for 3 K HKD, she did not really offer anal and BBBJ, but that was OK for me this time.
Long story short we met up in Victoria Hotel (still my favourite short term romp place).
Ciao.$3000 for 45 minutes in a short time hotel? WOW!
$3000 for 45 minutes in a short time hotel? WOW!Big swinging dicks wherever you look these days. Tomorrow they will ask 5000 as long as there is someone stupid enough to agree.
Johnny Rocket
05-14-15, 17:36
If she was a long time chat friend why didn't you arrange to meet her somewhere where you didn't have to drop a ton of money on ripoff drinks and bar fines? Speaking of not the smartest egg in the nest. The reason "Wanchai bars think they can have a long term business based on ripping off customers" is because of people like you.
A long time chat friend. I broke my rule of not going into a Wanchai bar just to meet her. She is very nice looking. Firm to the touch, sweet personality, not the smartest egg in the nest. The damage was huge. Why Wanchai bars think they can have a long term business based on ripping of customers is beyond me. One round of drinks alone is more than a weeks worth of 141. Then a negotiated bar fine which gives the girl just 800-900 HKD for the whole night (she gets 300-400 for short time). It's nuts.
She reports Wanchai bars are very slow since the 7's tourney closed. With just 1 or 2 customers a week. It's not enough to cover her costs. Comparatively, this same girl walked home with over $25 k usd 5 years ago after a 6 month contract (that's 300-400 customers).
Very nice, not the sexiest thing, a bit stiff in bed. She reports that most bar girls are just the lay there type, lube is a requirement. I sent her packing by 9:00 the next morning. She's nice, but I'm not going to pay the huge bar fees.
Earlier that night, I visited Dragon Club. I'd heard so much about it, I wanted to see what the famous Wanchai BJ bar was like. For those of you that like a good BJ bar, stick with Thailand. Just 4 nit so great dancers there when I arrived (she said there were usually 6 girls working). With the beer, they take you over to one of two booths up front by the door. There's a mirror so while enjoying your beer and blow, you can see the girls dance. The blow itself is very staged. Enough to get you going, then time for a cheers and drink with the girl. Another short go and another drink. Then time for another round. It's strange to be negotiating with a mamasan while the girl is hard at work with your little John. But I can see how that bar makes it when the others are starving. Overall, I found the BJ rather poor. And staged to drive more lady drinks only made me upset. So after a few drinks, and more than 5 days of 141, I left. The girl said she would not let me cum in the bar. That was reserved for out all. I've seen reports to the contrary.
Okay I'm a frequent visitor to HK, I must be as I have a HKIA frequent visitor card.
This post is part whine, part asking for suggestions. I've been punting in HK for several years and unf I find the value for money going down. Used to get quit regular good punts from 141 walk ups and 20-something year old girls at K-Pressure. Now I've had several ordinary / rushed / unenthusiastic 141 punts in a row and K-Pressure, while still good service, is full of 30-early 40's MILFs. As an FYI K-Pressure is about $40 cheaper if you turn up before 1 pm. I've had some truly spectacular experiences at Shanghai / Portland St, but they were at least 8 years ago.
I usually try out the lower price range of the market (not just in HK) as I've found in the past paying more doesn't guarantee anything except having even less money left afterwards.
May try one of the Shanghai / Portland Street places with PRC girls next or still haven't been to 37 Dundas.
Anybody know prices of the street pickups around Temple St Night Market or where you end up afterwards? Any other ideas?
I just got into Hong Kong this afternoon. Got to the hotel and showered and went to the Foremost Building in Jordan with a list. Half of the people on the list were busy and 2 of the was not working. 1 was booked all day. Might have to check her out if she's that popular. The other half on the list I didn't like. So I went to the 15th floor and knocked on doors that was available. That took a good 15 minutes if not more. So went back on the 141 site from my phone and called Lu Lu and she said she will be free in 15 minutes. OK I said so I waited for the time and went to the 4th floor room 3 D. It was 580 for massage and while package. She was tall about 5' 7" and skinny and pretty face so I glad I took the chance and booked her on the phone. She gave an excellent hard massage after I showered by myself first. On the flip it was a cover BJ, no kissing on the lips, no DATY which a lot of 141 walk ups I experienced won't offer. We did cowboy, doggie and mish when I came. Cleaned and showered and chatted. She is from Canada. I not sure where I am going to go tomorrow. I would like to hit at least two places. I enjoyed the massage from Lu Lu. Sucks there was no DATY.
I'm typing on my mobile phone when posting on this forum so I notice a few spelling mistakes. Also after I left Lu Lu at the Foremost Building, walking down Portland street back to my hotel I saw 3 street ladies in front of a small park on Portland street between waterloo and pitts street. They were all over the age of 30 for sure might even pushing for 40.2 of them look very nice and pretty. Didn't ask to see how much because I need I need some rest after Lu Lu and traveling and flying for over 20 hours. Also on my to Foremost Building while walking to Jordan road on Shanghai street, there were many older ladies maybe mamasans, looks to be in their 40's, trying to get people into their massage places upstairs. I try to dress like a Hong Kong citizen but most still targeted me. I'm not sure about going up to those places.
back on the 141 site from my phone and called Lu Lu and she said she will be free in 15 minutes. OK I said so I waited for the time and went to the 4th floor room 3 D. It was 580 for massage and while package. She was tall about 5' 7" and skinny and pretty face so I glad I took the chance and booked her on the phone. She gave an excellent hard massage after I showered by myself first. On the flip it was a cover BJ, no kissing on the lips, no DATY which a lot of 141 walk ups I experienced won't offer. We did cowboy, doggie and mish when I came. Cleaned and showered and chatted. She is from Canada. Nice write up, WorldHop. I'm going to Jordan this evening so may see if I can bjork Lu Lu too!
Johnny Rocket
05-17-15, 19:32
I just got into Hong Kong this afternoon. Got to the hotel and showered and went to the Foremost Building in Jordan with a list. Half of the people on the list were busy and 2 of the was not working. 1 was booked all day. Might have to check her out if she's that popular. The other half on the list I didn't like. So I went to the 15th floor and knocked on doors that was available. That took a good 15 minutes if not more. So went back on the 141 site from my phone and called Lu Lu and she said she will be free in 15 minutes. OK I said so I waited for the time and went to the 4th floor room 3 D. It was 580 for massage and while package. She was tall about 5' 7" and skinny and pretty face so I glad I took the chance and booked her on the phone. She gave an excellent hard massage after I showered by myself first. On the flip it was a cover BJ, no kissing on the lips, no DATY which a lot of 141 walk ups I experienced won't offer. We did cowboy, doggie and mish when I came. Cleaned and showered and chatted. She is from Canada. I not sure where I am going to go tomorrow. I would like to hit at least two places. I enjoyed the massage from Lu Lu. Sucks there was no DATY."She is from Canada" must have been one of your spelling mistakes. I am very skeptical that there are any Canadian WGs in HK, at least not at low-end places like 141's.
"She is from Canada" must have been one of your spelling mistakes. I am very skeptical that there are any Canadian WGs in HK, at least not at low-end places like 141's.Lots of Chinese live in Canada now don't they, Vancouver especially, quite possible this I would think. If we are talking about a Chinese Canadian. Perhaps a lot also have Canada passport and live in HK for the time being also.
After spending few days in Singapore with a girl I met in Bali last November I had a Saturday night in HK before my return home Sunday, msg decided to venture in our beloved wanchai.
As we know Saturday night is not the best night for good deals as they are more guys than girls or about the same ratio. Went first to Makati as an always I didn't last there long as the music was extremely loud and no good quality available. Also stopped in Neptune 3 and left in 5 minutes as the pressure to buy drinks is very intense from everyone.
The next 4 hours I was walking back and forward between HK cafe and escape, with a nice legit Thai massage in between to rest my legs.
Escape is a nice bar with medium to low pressure to buy drinks, but that night the girls were very expensive, The Asians wanted at least 2000 HK, a gir from Spain wanted 3000 HK for one hour, and the Colombians 2500 for one hour. Sure you could negotiate and probably lower some the price but for me that expensive is a mood killer.
I like HK cafe as there also not that much pressure to buy drinks, met some girls but nothing special, it was 4 am and had to make a decision, I saw an indo girl dressed nice and we negotiate 200 USA as a gift. In the room very nice performance but very disappointed on her body, Its amazing how clothing can hiide a bad body. However, most importantly good performance and friendly, actually wanted to stay with me but for the night but I usually don't like to sleep with girls that meet on the street.
Also in my between walkings I spoke with a desperate African woman outside escape that was willing to go for 1000 hk but Iim just don't trust African girls, also spoke with phil girls at the bars and all afte 2 min of conversation wanted drinks, which annoys me. If I knew that I will end with them it will be ok but most of these girls just want to dry you up with drinks.
So my conclusion is that Saturday night in wanchai is really difficult to find good deals but if you have money to throw away in drinks or don't mind overpaying for girls you can end up with a quality girl.
Johnny Rocket
05-18-15, 17:42
Lots of Chinese live in Canada now don't they, Vancouver especially, quite possible this I would think. If we are talking about a Chinese Canadian. Perhaps a lot also have Canada passport and live in HK for the time being also.Yes there is a reason they call it Hongcouver. But if they have obtained a Canadian passport or grew up in Canada they have many more options open to them to make good money aside from being a WG. And if they want to be a WG they could do it in Canada where they can easily charge 4-6 times as much as a 141 walkup, work in better conditions and have (mostly) nicer customers and be protected by the law. Even if they want to be a WG in HK they have better options. 141 walkups are almost all mainlanders and a few assorted other third world countries mixed in here and there. Maybe some of the expensive 141 hotel girls, though even there the Asians are mainlanders or occasionally Korean or Japanese, and the whites are from the former Soviet bloc.
I'm not saying it's impossible I'm saying I'm extremely skeptical that there is a Canadian working in a 141 walkup.
No difference in prices on a Saturday. Ladies will charge what the gent will pay. Mon or Sat prices will be the same.
Can say that the prices you quoted seem to be accurate. The days of getting a Wanchai Bar lady for 1000 all night are long gone. And I stress a Wanchai bar lady.
Agree with Johnny's post - Never heard of a Canadian/HK Lady working in 141 place for 500 a pop. As Johnny says there are so many options in Canada.
Brown Rail
05-19-15, 02:35
Hello all,
I am new to this forum and want to thank everyone for sharing their experiences in Hong Kong. I will be in Hong Kong for a couple of days later this week. I would like to try a spa in the TST area that's less expensive that the daily spa. I looked on go 141 and saw a bunch of different spas. Can anyone suggest some of those to me. I was looking at dream spa because they say the have nuru. Also was looking at angel spa and the best spa. Any recommendations would be great. Thank you. I also read about 6 years worth of this thread and some of the other threads. I didn't see to much on spas besides the daily spa. Should I just stick to the massage on the 141 walk ups? I just wanted to try some new on my second trip to Hong Kong.I am not sure there is much of a spa experience in HK. I suggest you head over to Macau where there are lots.
Big swinging dicks wherever you look these days. Tomorrow they will ask 5000 as long as there is someone stupid enough to agree.Hi Tiger,
Not sure were you are going with this?
Keep in mind other people have other priorities. For me time to have fun is VERY limited!
So when I get the rare chance I make 100% sure it counts!
If you have a way to get very good sex for 1,000 HKD with guranteed results and this can be.
Wrapped up in 90 minutes - please share this with the forum - because I have not found a way to do that in Hong Kong yet.
No difference in prices on a Saturday. Ladies will charge what the gent will pay. Mon or Sat prices will be the same.
Can say that the prices you quoted seem to be accurate. The days of getting a Wanchai Bar lady for 1000 all night are long gone. And I stress a Wanchai bar lady.
Agree with Johnny's post - Never heard of a Canadian/HK Lady working in 141 place for 500 a pop. As Johnny says there are so many options in Canada.Chantik you are the expert, but in January was in wanchai on a Tuesday and got a very pretty indo for the night for 1000 HK, and she was very happy. Even the Colombians went down to 1400 HK, I belive that during the week there are less guys drinking and therefore less drinking money for the girls and more opportunities for better deals and service.
I finally got back to the US. On my second day in Hong Kong, I finally go to hook up with Gi Gi. Some of you know who this wonderful Indonesian beauty is. She had just finished her time of the month thing. So I been texting her and was afraid I would not be able to hook up with her this time because when I booked my plane ticket several months ago, I was not planning her having her period during my trip. Lucky it started for her 5 days before I arrived. She told me she would go back to work on Saturday, so I booked her early. I picked up her some Starbucks from around the corner because last time she told me she loves caramel machiato with extra caramel on top. She greeted me with a kiss and nice hug. She just colored her hair a nice shade of red and she told me she really loved it and I told her I loved it too. She was in a lovely red lace bra with matching thong which made her look hotter. We undress and both just cuddle up on the bed and was talking about different stuff and playing with each other. Finally we go into the shower and she cleans me and gives me one of those BJ with warm water in her mouth. I was in heaven. I get out of the shower so she can finish showering herself. On the bed she just attacks me by jumping on me and tells me she so horny because she hadn't had sex in 5 days. So we cuddle and I play with her tits and ass while she rubs my cock. Next she starts with a BJ and that feels so good because she can take the whole thing in her mouth. After a while I had to stop her so I don't cum in her mouth. She puts on a condom. I'm going to have to bring my own. The ones she has are small and tight. So she like missionary and I pound away while sucking on her nipples. She is getting really loud and wild. I'm trying not to cum but she is grabbing my ass and squeezing it tight and I told you going to make me cum if you don't stop that. She laughs and squeeze harder and tells me she wants me to cum in her mouth. I not going to argue with her there. So she digs her nail really good, and I said that's it and pull out and she takes off the condom and starts sucking and I'm cumming and she is sucking so good that my legs are actually starting to cramp. I was surprised I was cramping because that never happened to me before and I just let her keep sucking. Finally she stops and ask if I was OK. I had a hard time speaking so I just nodded. We lay there together and talk about her life my life. I told her if she came to the US, she would make a killing. People would really pay to see her. She laughs and said she would love to visit but not to work. I give her 500 but her fee is 450 now due to the increase of rent where she works. It was 400 before. So guys don't complain about me giving her more and saying people like me raising up the price. She would not raise up her price because how good and popular she is, she would only raise her prices when her rent go up. She keeps her price low so people that don't make a lot of money can see her. I think she is a sweet and lovely person. I also came back that night to see her again. She told me she has not left the apartment since I saw her earlier that day. She said she was hungry and I don't mind bringing her food. I got her some sushi from a place that's not too far. We shower and repeated just about everything we did earlier again except I came while she was bent over on her bed. Man that was nice. I paid her and we hug and kissed. She is located in the King Hing Building. I didn't want to leave Hong Kong the next morning, but I will be back.
I'm sorry guy if this is so long. You can yell at me, I don't care.
I wasn't sure if I put the correct build in my review. I wonder how many other people have had Gi Gi before.
"She is from Canada" must have been one of your spelling mistakes. I am very skeptical that there are any Canadian WGs in HK, at least not at low-end places like 141's.Hi JR,
Well that's what Lu Lu told me. I would visit her again just for the massage. It did wonders on me. If you are in Hong Kong, you should visit her and see if what she says is true. I do make spelling mistakes from time to time as well.
Nice write up, WorldHop. I'm going to Jordan this evening so may see if I can bjork Lu Lu too!Cheers and report back even if you didn't see Lu Lu.
AussieDoug
05-19-15, 14:11
Anticipating an editorial comment from the HK master, she is a bar girl from SB bar. She lost her virginity there a few months back. Sweet, tight, and loves to fuck. 21 Yo pinay.Could you be so kind as to translate SF and SB? Thanks.
Johnny Rocket
05-19-15, 17:52
Hi JR,
Well that's what Lu Lu told me. I would visit her again just for the massage. It did wonders on me. If you are in Hong Kong, you should visit her and see if what she says is true. I do make spelling mistakes from time to time as well.Not a problem whatsoever! Reporting what a girl says here is perfectly fine and can be useful. All contributions appreciated!
Johnny Rocket
05-19-15, 17:58
I finally got back to the US. On my second day in Hong Kong, I finally go to hook up with Gi Gi. Some of you know who this wonderful Indonesian beauty is. She had just finished her time of the month thing. So I been texting her and was afraid I would not be able to hook up with her this time because when I booked my plane ticket several months ago, I was not planning her having her period during my trip. Lucky it started for her 5 days before I arrived. She told me she would go back to work on Saturday, so I booked her early. I picked up her some Starbucks from around the corner because last time she told me she loves caramel machiato with extra caramel on top. She greeted me with a kiss and nice hug. She just colored her hair a nice shade of red and she told me she really loved it and I told her I loved it too. She was in a lovely red lace bra with matching thong which made her look hotter. We undress and both just cuddle up on the bed and was talking about different stuff and playing with each other. Finally we go into the shower and she cleans me and gives me one of those BJ with warm water in her mouth. I was in heaven. I get out of the shower so she can finish showering herself. On the bed she just attacks me by jumping on me and tells me she so horny because she hadn't had sex in 5 days. So we cuddle and I play with her tits and ass while she rubs my cock. Next she starts with a BJ and that feels so good because she can take the whole thing in her mouth. After a while I had to stop her so I don't cum in her mouth. She puts on a condom. I'm going to have to bring my own. The ones she has are small and tight. So she like missionary and I pound away while sucking on her nipples. She is getting really loud and wild. I'm trying not to cum but she is grabbing my ass and squeezing it tight and I told you going to make me cum if you don't stop that. She laughs and squeeze harder and tells me she wants me to cum in her mouth. I not going to argue with her there. So she digs her nail really good, and I said that's it and pull out and she takes off the condom and starts sucking and I'm cumming and she is sucking so good that my legs are actually starting to cramp. I was surprised I was cramping because that never happened to me before and I just let her keep sucking. Finally she stops and ask if I was OK. I had a hard time speaking so I just nodded. We lay there together and talk about her life my life. I told her if she came to the US, she would make a killing. People would really pay to see her. She laughs and said she would love to visit but not to work. I give her 500 but her fee is 450 now due to the increase of rent where she works. It was 400 before. So guys don't complain about me giving her more and saying people like me raising up the price. She would not raise up her price because how good and popular she is, she would only raise her prices when her rent go up. She keeps her price low so people that don't make a lot of money can see her. I think she is a sweet and lovely person. I also came back that night to see her again. She told me she has not left the apartment since I saw her earlier that day. She said she was hungry and I don't mind bringing her food. I got her some sushi from a place that's not too far. We shower and repeated just about everything we did earlier again except I came while she was bent over on her bed. Man that was nice. I paid her and we hug and kissed. She is located in the King Hing Building. I didn't want to leave Hong Kong the next morning, but I will be back.
I'm sorry guy if this is so long. You can yell at me, I don't care.
I wasn't sure if I put the correct build in my review. I wonder how many other people have had Gi Gi before.I've seen her and she is fantastic but the number I have for her doesn't seem to work anymore. You say King Hing Bldg, is she on 10/ F? I see her on 141's web site but she didn't have dyed red hair the last time I saw her so just want to confirm it is the same girl. Thanks.
Anybody know prices of the street pickups around Temple St Night Market or where you end up afterwards? Any other ideas?Temple street street walkers from 100-250 HKD for short time. Very small and dirty rooms. Street walkers can also be found around Portland street. The rooms are even worse there.
Chantik you are the expert, but in January was in wanchai on a Tuesday and got a very pretty indo for the night for 1000 HK, and she was very happy. Even the Colombians went down to 1400 HK, I belive that during the week there are less guys drinking and therefore less drinking money for the girls and more opportunities for better deals and service.I noticed that you quoted the time 4 am to 5 am. For me this is not an overnighter. And many a lady agrees to do an overnighter and runs out after one pop I do overnighters all the time and that is for 12 hrs. And I referred to Wanchai bar girls in my post. Not Indonesian or Phillipine DH who may have a day or two off work.
Christian G
05-19-15, 21:34
I've seen her and she is fantastic but the number I have for her doesn't seem to work anymore. You say King Hing Bldg, is she on 10/ F? I see her on 141's web site but she didn't have dyed red hair the last time I saw her so just want to confirm it is the same girl. Thanks.This is the address on her profile: Flat A3, 10/ F, King Hing Bldg. , 52 - 54 Argyle St. , Mong Kok.
http://go141.com/en/1564-MK-141Walk-ups-GiGi.html
Johnny Rocket
05-20-15, 07:54
I saw Sharlyn, the Filipina who advertises on CL. Her number is in her ad. She's staying in a cheap but decent hotel in Wan Chai. Quoted me 2 k, I said 1 k and she quickly agreed. Nice girl, pleasant conversationalist, pretty, nice tits, adorable and fairly tight pussy with a little tuft of coarse Filipina hair (love it! Allowed DATY but not DFK. The sex was not enthusiastic and she rushed me, in a nice way by saying if it lasts too long she gets dry (so how about investing in a little lube? But rushed nonetheless. Didn't rush at all before or after, just during. Would not repeat due to lack of enthusiasm and rushing. But a genuinely nice girl.
I saw Sharlyn, the Filipina who advertises on CL. Her number is in her ad. She's staying in a cheap but decent hotel in Wan Chai. Quoted me 2 k, I said 1 k and she quickly agreed. Nice girl, pleasant conversationalist, pretty, nice tits, adorable and fairly tight pussy with a little tuft of coarse Filipina hair (love it! Allowed DATY but not DFK. The sex was not enthusiastic and she rushed me, in a nice way by saying if it lasts too long she gets dry (so how about investing in a little lube? But rushed nonetheless. Didn't rush at all before or after, just during. Would not repeat due to lack of enthusiasm and rushing. But a genuinely nice girl.I wonder if this is the same lady who was reviewed on 141. Poster answered add for3 k, bargained her down to 1 K, and then suddenly her friend joined in for no extra charge.
Headed into HK in late June and could use some advice. I am from the US and spent a decent amount of time as a hobbies here and in Europe. But it seems like this is a whole new ball game. Been reading through these posts, but not sure what my best options are.
I am looking for younger, high quality, Asian spinners. Wouldn't mind an overnight experience or double girl action if possible. Don't want to get ripped off, but don't mind paying for a quality experience. I will be in town for 4 nights with a possible night or 2 in Macau (also a hobby option).
Please let me know if there is a better part of town to stay in or avoid, and how to pack as much fun into this week as possible. All advice is welcome and I will report back post trip.
Thanks
Thomas Jefferson
05-21-15, 14:23
I knew I will be in Hong Kong soon, so I contacted a few DIA (date in Asia, website) girls.
Usually with one or two out of 10 it will be nice chatting, which fast can be getting to naughty chatting.
These girls need work 24 h, can only go out on Sundays, they feel so boring at night, that's why they like chatting.
If you nice to them (and don't talk about sex! They will be nice too, and start naughty chat by their own.
Philippine girls are usually horny, so just wait, they will start usually haha.
She had a Monday off (changed from Sunday to Monday, because I was there that day), we met early morning at hotel lobby.
Soon went to my room and not even 5 min later we landed on the bed. She knew how to do it, really hot girl.
After first round, we went out for some sightseeing and lunch, these girls love that.
Afternoon back to hotel, for round no 2 and no 3.
She liked it and I enjoyed it a lot.
At 6 pm she had to go back home, I brought her to taxi which I paid for her.
Great day for a start in Hong Kong.
Here 2 fotos of her, no clear face of course.
Thomas Jefferson
05-21-15, 15:24
After my day with the manila girl, I needed to do some business.
The evening I went to 141 girl in Fuji building.
Knocked a few doors and suddenly in 17th floor there opened one girl.
She was hot, no question I had to go in, whatever money she wanted, but she wanted 500 hkd only.
We had nice small talk, shower together followed by some massage and great sex.
After shower again, we continued talking, she wanted go home, so she dressed in her street clothe.
Sexy but still normal to go out. After 1 hour we left the house together.
One week later I was back in Hong Kong, and my first visit was Fuji building, to see that girl again.
She was there, we had a nice 1 hour session, she was really happy to see me again.
After we had small talk again and I invited her for dinner. She was surprised and after a short hesitation she agreed.
She took me to a small local spicy sichuan restaurant nearby, we had nice dinner and good talking, 250 hkd for that dinner only.
After dinner she had to go back to Fuji building and I went for a beer. 2 hours later she messaged me, that she will finish work.
We met again and I invited her to my room for relax, some drink, TV etc.
To my surprise she agreed, so up we went. Bought some drinks in 7-11.
That was a great night, relaxed on bed, followed later by some real GF sex, and a nice night sleep in my arms.
We slept long until 11 am. Than we slowly got up and she had to go, and I had to check out anyway.
That was an amazing adventure in Hong Kong, which I did not expect at all.
BTW, I stayed in Wharney hotel Wanchai, nice location, good 4 star hotel.
Best feature is a mobile phone in room for use, free call in hkg and to many countries and free internet in Hong Kong.
All included in the room rate.
Sorry no fotos of that girl.
She is from Hong Kong and doesn't want any foto, even she is not in 141 etc websites.
Aint you Lucky! LOL.
Nice FR buddy.
Thanks for the update on the hotel.
Cheers,
FunkySexy.
The evening I went to 141 girl in Fuji building.
She was hot, no question I had to go in, whatever money she wanted, but she wanted 500 hkd only.
We met again and I invited her to my room for relax, some drink, TV etc.
To my surprise she agreed, so up we went. Bought some drinks in 7-11.
That was a great night, relaxed on bed, followed later by some real GF sex, and a nice night sleep in my arms.
Johnny Rocket
05-22-15, 08:25
Thomas Jefferson, excellent work on the DH and the 141 girl. That's getting shit done right there.
Nice work on that whole founding America thing too.
Johnny Rocket
05-22-15, 08:38
I often find myself in North Point so I visited the Southern Building you can find on the 141 site. At the end of a hallway on 1/ F there is a room that seems to be reserved for Thai girls. They only stay 2 weeks at a time so the 141 folks must have a constant supply of them coming from somewhere because there's always a Thai girl in there. Anyway the name on the door is Yoko but she said she was name Kie or something like that. Large fake tits that once she got undressed I could tell were poorly done. Oh well. Room was also dirty with empty food containers. Is it really that hard to keep it basically tidy? I know this is cheap 141 but how can the girls themselves stand it when it's messy.
Standard shower, BBBJ, then condom goes on and I start fucking her in doggy but I couldn't get her into the right position somehow, so after about a minute I told her lay down on the bed. I pull out, she lays down, I look down and my cock is covered in blood. Always a little scary but hey that happens, so I pointed it out to her and she apologized profusely. Immediately I showered it all off and she said "you come in my mouth ok?" I said ok. So I come back out of the shower and she didn't even bother to put on underwear she just squatted down to suck me off. I said don't you think you should put on a pad? But either she didn't understand or didn't care. Okaaaaaay. So she BBBJ me again and when I'm about to blow she takes it out and jerks me off. Uh no I thought I was coming in your mouth, and her sign lists a price for that. But instead it was hand finish although I managed to get one shot onto her chin. Pretty disappointing. And when she stood back up there was some blood that had dripped out of her onto the floor. Then she finally figured out she should probably put on a pad.
After showering and dressing she asked for the price listed on her sign for fuck plus "blowjob no condom. " Well I fucked her for about 1 minute and didn't even finish in her mouth but I was not going to be an asshole about it. So I paid which was 620 but only had 2 500's and then it turned out she didn't have change. She honestly didn't have it as I saw her look in her purse and a couple of different drawers, so she wasn't just scamming me out of extra money. I said never mind keep it, I took what change she had which meant I ended up paying 760.
And the coup de grace. As I'm walking out, in among the food containers atop the fridge I see two dead cockroaches.
Win some, lose some.
Thomas Jefferson
05-22-15, 08:51
Last night in Hong Kong.
Went to some of the Wanchai bars. Weekday and not too much business there. Getting a bit full after midnight.
Saw some sweet girls, one wanted 2000 short time and did not go down even on dollar, wtf.
She flirted with many men, but still after midnight she was alone, and later I saw her jump in a taxi. Alone! Haha, no business for that price.
Nice to see that nobody paid that much. I saw a nice girl, but when I wanted to approach her, she was gone. Shit.
Went out for some food, had a beer in the corner open air bar. Talked to some other men. Just enjoyed my evening.
When it was time to go to bed, I took another round to see, if any girl was interested to join and BINGO there was that nice girl from before on the street.
Obviously wanted to go home. I smiled and she quickly came over, she was from Indonesia, nice look, friendly talk.
I offered her 700 for short time and we agreed to 800 hkd. Up to the hotel and we had nice shower together first. Than on to the bed.
She was a volcano in bed, specially after some nice DATY. Great fuck. Shower again and she did not dress, instead she went back to bed.
OK good for me, so I joined her. She asked me if I could do 2nd time because she was still horny (her words). I am a gentleman of course.
And cannot refuse a girl's wish. That was a great 2nd round. Total we spend around 3 hours in my room.
That were my Hong Kong adventures this time, I addition I had been to Macau and Taiwan, more in that threats.
Attached some fotos of the Indonesia girl. She should be around in the bars somewhere.
Uncle Goober2
05-22-15, 09:53
Could you be so kind as to translate SF and SB? Thanks.If velvet curtain bars, would be.
SF = San Francisco.
SB = Show Biz.
Both on Lockhart Road.
Cheers.
Anticipating an editorial comment from the HK master, she is a bar girl from SB bar. She lost her virginity there a few months back. Sweet, tight, and loves to fuck. 21 Yo pinay.Reckon, I'd be removing these pics if they are REAL. Doubt that the management of a Go Go bar would be unhappy with a customer publicly showing nude pics of one of their employees. And they know about these type of forums. We are not discussing an independent escort.
After my day with the manila girl, I needed to do some business.
The evening I went to 141 girl in Fuji building.
Knocked a few doors and suddenly in 17th floor there opened one girl.
She was hot, no question I had to go in, whatever money she wanted, but she wanted 500 hkd only.
We had nice small talk, shower together followed by some massage and great sex.
After shower again, we continued talking, she wanted go home, so she dressed in her street clothe.
Sexy but still normal to go out. After 1 hour we left the house together.
One week later I was back in Hong Kong, and my first visit was Fuji building, to see that girl again.
She was there, we had a nice 1 hour session, she was really happy to see me again.
After we had small talk again and I invited her for dinner. She was surprised and after a short hesitation she agreed.
She took me to a small local spicy sichuan restaurant nearby, we had nice dinner and good talking, 250 hkd for that dinner only.
After dinner she had to go back to Fuji building and I went for a beer. 2 hours later she messaged me, that she will finish work.
We met again and I invited her to my room for relax, some drink, TV etc.
To my surprise she agreed, so up we went. Bought some drinks in 7-11.
That was a great night, relaxed on bed, followed later by some real GF sex, and a nice night sleep in my arms.
We slept long until 11 am. Than we slowly got up and she had to go, and I had to check out anyway.
That was an amazing adventure in Hong Kong, which I did not expect at all.
BTW, I stayed in Wharney hotel Wanchai, nice location, good 4 star hotel.
Best feature is a mobile phone in room for use, free call in hkg and to many countries and free internet in Hong Kong.
All included in the room rate.
Sorry no fotos of that girl.
She is from Hong Kong and doesn't want any foto, even she is not in 141 etc websites.So you post a pic of a Phillipine DH (who is not a f / t wl) but refuse to post a pic of a HK girl who is a WL. And pics should be in the picture gallery thread.
Ha Ha Ha. I know this Indo girl. Will have to ask how how horny she is next time I bump into her.
A few times to HK but never really did 141 and only did the bar scene once (slim pickings last time I was there, and I'm not super into Pinays or Indos. Usually save my money for Macau). I'm on HK Island so I look around Wan Chai and went to 105 Queens Road. Walked around 3, 4, 5th floors. Most were busy. I decided to wait a few minutes, and Isabella freed up. She has a cute anime look to her, especially when she wears glasses. Tits are fake, and not the best job in the world but not bad, and generally slim. I think she only eats oranges because there were oranges all over the place, including one in the stairwell. Says she is mixed Chinese and Eastern Russian, and speaks some Canto, Russian and English as well as native Mandarin.
While the room was tiny, the shower was tiny, things were generally tidy and clean enough. I felt like this was a step above BBS in China.
After shower, we lay down and she gets straight to business chatting and playing with the goods. I flip her around and go for DATY, and she resists at first, but gives in willingly and has an O. Then we get to CBJ and then the main attraction. Good 20-30 minutes session, for a total time of 45-50 minutes. For $500 HKD it's a nice way to wind down, but nothing like Macau spa experience. Maybe I'll have to find a really hot one and try what ThomasJefferson did and pull her to the hotel. .
I've seen her and she is fantastic but the number I have for her doesn't seem to work anymore. You say King Hing Bldg, is she on 10/ F? I see her on 141's web site but she didn't have dyed red hair the last time I saw her so just want to confirm it is the same girl. Thanks.Hi JR,
Christian G got the correct info. My modem when down so I wasn't able to go online for a week. I thought it was the internet company but later found out it was the modem. Also do you live in Hong Kong? I won't be back to there til early September. Airfare is really expensive in the summer time. When I was walking to East Mong Kok subway station from the Mong Kok station on the foot bridge, I notice a lot of women sitting in groups on the side. It was a Saturday. Are they DH's? Anyway keep up the great reports.
ClitLover2012
05-24-15, 17:31
Hi guys, visiting HK in the first week of June. Is there any high end bar like Brix in Singapore where you can pickup model quality chicks at a price?
Would greatly appreciate any feedback via PM.
Thanks.
Ash.
LongLunches
05-24-15, 17:32
Hi guys, visiting HK in the first week of June. Is there any high end bar like Brix in Singapore where you can pickup model quality chicks at a price?
Ash.Try Escape.
Hi seniors.
Newbie in HK here.
Appreciate some classy contacts at a decent price.
Looking forward to couple of good nights.
Anyone know of any girls that do CIM?
Johnny Rocket
05-28-15, 18:43
Anyone know of any girls that do CIM?Gigi in Mong Kok who has been discussed in the last few pages does. Any of the 141 girls from SE Asia usually do but YMMV. I believe Chantik does, not going to speak for her though. .
Big Ass Eater
05-29-15, 00:22
Hi seniors.
Newbie in HK here.
Appreciate some classy contacts at a decent price.
Looking forward to couple of good nights.The days of cheap fun are over. Everywhere in Asia is expensive now.
Perhaps Philippines or Indonesia still got cheap hookers, but nowhere in China and certainly not in HK.
How to get in contact with you Chantik? Where can I get your number?
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Jackson
I was in shenzhen for a job, and decided to head to Hong Kong for a few days. Unfortunately I didn't have time to check out gigi. I was in the causebay area to eat at a 1 star michelin place, din tai fung, a shanghainese dim sum (it was pretty good), so I decided to check out the phoenix apartments. It's located on a pretty crowded street, but pretty nondescript. Anyways, I make my way up and check out each floor. I should have checked the 141 site first, I assumed it was going to be like the fuji building. But the girls are only on floors 2-5 I believe. Not a lot of options. The building is pretty wide, so you have to do a bit of walking to get from one side to the other to look at what's on tap. A lot of the girls post their real (maybe photoshopped, but not blurred) photos on the outside doors and walls. Most of the girls have advertisements on the 141.
I wasn't happy with the options, but many of the girls were available. There's a local girl, Fi Fi and next to her, a former nurse named lydia, that advertised CIM. I might come back here another time. I decided to go over to the fuji building for better and more options.
My last time here, I wanted to try a hk girl. But I was told that there were no hk girls at k-pressure by a girl that I wasnt not interested in. She might have been lying or telling the truth. And the girl that I ended up going with might have been lying to make the money. So, just in case, I wanted to find another local girl. I've seen a few at the fuji building, so I head over to there. This time, the same number of hk girls were available once again, and some of the same exact girls that I remember seeing are still here 3 months later.
The problem with hk girls, is that hk is such an affluent place and has high purchasing power, that it would be really rare that someone would need to turn tricks to make a living. It's looked down upon and with many job opportunities, you wouldn't need to sell your body. It's the opposite in mainland China, little opportunities and very low wages, turning tricks is a better option. So the hk girls who are WGs, aren't exactly the best looking or have the best bodies compared to their mainland counterparts.
I went up and down the fuji building probably 4 times, even walking all the way up at one point, last time I thought the girls were only on floors 8-22, i stopped because there were no providers on floor 7. Turns out it's all of the floors, still none on floor 7 though. It was super hot, humid, muggy, was raining before I got there, and I was exhausted and soaked in rain and sweat. The other two hk girls weren't available, but I found one on the 8th floor. Her name is Ki Ki, apparently pronounced "kay kay". She spoke very little english and an okay amount of mandarin, we conversed in cantonese. She's 28 and wanted 500. She wasnt the best looking, she had a cute chubby face, with thick pouty pink lips. Her body was on the thick and chunky side (has a belly), big real breasts, and an average behind. Her personality was warm, welcoming, and bubbly.
We take a shower, which I needed badly. And then she has me lay down on the bed and proceeded to work both of my nipples for a while. Then she does a laying down side CBJ (no access to her vag or bum), and spend a good amount of time on it. Then I get on top in mish, working her breasts with my mouth, then I enter. We're aboard the pound train, destination: pleasantville. She has her eyes closed the whole time (I hate this), moaning with each thrust. She's caressing my body, while I kiss her face and neck. After a bit, I wanted to switch to doggy. While I grab my tool for insertion, it's covered in cream, she got really wet from the mish. I pound her in doggy, and she's enjoying this much better. I pull her up so I can massage her breasts, but she's too short and I'm too tall. The position is uncomfortable, so we switch back to mish. I pound away, and when I was about to cum, I drill her like I was mining for gold, and she takes it like a champ. I blast everything I had, everything I've saved up for the past few days into her, and won't stop until even drip is out. Exhausted, She cleans me up and takes me into the shower, and I stand in the shower needing to hold onto the wall to keep myself from fainting. She washes me, and I get dressed and leave.
There's still a lot left I want to do in hk, but with limited time, this was just going to be a quick give and go trip. I'll be back pretty soon
I've written FRs here before about Daily Spa, and seen other FRs, and it's mostly been positive.
But be aware. They just implemented a "stealth" price increase.
Incall used to be HK $2,000/90 minutes. Cunningly, they haven't changed the price shown. But the web site now says HK $2,000/75 minutes. I guess if you're keen to get through the massage to the action at the end, this won't make much difference for you.
Hi Pals,
I am a young 30 yr old Indian guy visiting HK next month. Though I have been RTFF to get a lot of insight from a P4 P perspective. I would like to know if women have any bias for skin colour in HK. I have faced one such incident sometime back with a girl in Europe. Have had amazing experience in Bangkok and Pattaya though but was just wondering if any of you have seen such incident or could enlighten me.
I would be very keen to meet any seniors out in HK during this trip as well.
Thanks.
AngryCock.
If you have had good experiences in Thailand, then you should be fine in HK. However, you should be aware already that in parts of Asia there are places that don't view individuals that look like they could be from the Indian subcontinent in a positive way. It's typically due to the reputation they have as being cheap, not treating the girls well, and hygiene issues as well. Unfortunately when there is a bit of a trend with complaints towards a certain skin color, there is a good chance that discrimination occurs. In HK it can happen even if you look clean and are more westernized. Don't take it personally, there are so many girls that you will be able to find one that wants to service you and has no problem at all. This happens everywhere, North America, South America, Europe, or Asia etc. Many times the thinking is you are the customer and the girl needs to impress you, but clearly how you make an impression towards a girl that is willing to let you stick it in her, matters.
Hi Pals,
I am a young 30 yr old Indian guy visiting HK next month. Though I have been RTFF to get a lot of insight from a P4 P perspective. I would like to know if women have any bias for skin colour in HK. I have faced one such incident sometime back with a girl in Europe. Have had amazing experience in Bangkok and Pattaya though but was just wondering if any of you have seen such incident or could enlighten me.
I would be very keen to meet any seniors out in HK during this trip as well.
Thanks.
AngryCock.
JackTheLad2
06-08-15, 18:26
Hi Pals,
I am a young 30 yr old Indian guy visiting HK next month. Though I have been RTFF to get a lot of insight from a P4 P perspective. I would like to know if women have any bias for skin colour in HK. .I would also add that you might find you are restricted as to what bars in Wan Chai you can get into, assuming you are going to try the bar scene.
It would be easier if you were with someone of Western origin. I have seen guys from your part of the world refused admission, mostly for the reasons explained in the previous report.
Uncle Goober2
06-09-15, 03:56
I would also add that you might find you are restricted as to what bars in Wan Chai you can get into, assuming you are going to try the bar scene.
It would be easier if you were with someone of Western origin. I have seen guys from your part of the world refused admission, mostly for the reasons explained in the previous report.Jack is right, unfortunately, AC.
Some of the discos will ask you for an entrance fee, which will not be asked of Europeans. The reason for this is that punters from the sub-continent are regarded by some venue owners as being there only to stand around and watch rather than buy drinks.
As for the girls, you will always be able to find company as long as you are prepared to pay the going rate. You might get a few knock backs, but all of us do. Some girls have told me that they steer clear of punters from the sub-continent because such punters are "hungry", meaning that after buying a girl a drink they start feeling them up regardless of how the girl likes this. So, remain a gentleman and you will be fine.
Enjoy your time in HK.
Cheers.
The US Navy were out in numbers all over the weekend which changes the Wan Chai dynamic considerably I think. Friday hit my usual Wan Chai spots which are Amazonia, Joe Banana's and HK Café. Also stopped in for one drink only at New Makati and Escape. All were in one way or another disappointing. Quality well down I would say (I am 5- times a year visitor) in all locations. Prices seem to show no bounds! Amazonia has tended to be fertile hunting for me but place seems to have lost its edge. The band more of a side show than a focus as before and sparse pickings to be had. Joe Bananas' always been a bit hit and miss for ladies and this time clear miss. HK Café had a few 7-8 Thai ladies but they are serious pro's and present a poor value proposition IMHO while at HK prices. Escape and New Makati are both places I visit under sufferance. New Makati is way too loud and thumping for me and Escape is filled with ladies who put themselves in the silly price bracket again IMHO. So pretty disappointing and not difficult to see why most discussion these days in HK concern Dundas and the like..
Sunday hit Bar 109. For anyone unfamiliar the place is taken over by Indo DH's. Not sure what time it all starts but I arrived at 11 am and place was rocking. I think if you are prepared to stand quite a few drinks this is the closest thing you will get to an orgy with your clothes on. Really no very good looking ones but plenty of 6-7's and all very enthusiastic and almost anything go's. Makes for a unique and surreal experience I think. But my opinion is that if you are a lingerer or spectator then you will be roundly ignored so can be an expensive few hours. Majority of these ladies are up for ST take away if the price is right I believe. Finally, given the size of this place and the atmosphere.there is a very high chance that a drink will be spilled on you. I have heard others comment that this whole scene is a bit hit and miss and I am sure that is correct. Also it's not a scene I would attend regularly more like a once or twice a year itch that needs scratching.
Thanks Guys. I was anticipating the suggestions mentioned in the reports. Yes, I do intend to explore the bar scene as well as the 141 walkups in Wan Chai. I believe I have a good easy going relationship in past by treating women with due respect. Hopefully, I shall not have a terrible experience given that I plan to travel HK frequently as I establish my business there.
Cheers.
AngryCock.
I plan to travel HK frequently.
Some of the discos will ask you for an entrance fee, which will not be asked of Europeans. The reason for this is that punters from the sub-continent are regarded by some venue owners as being there only to stand around and watch rather than buy drinks.
easier if you were with someone of Western origin.IMHO, it is a business. If you flash money (be it an entrance fee or reputation for buying drinks / shots) you will get in to the discos and girls. I have seen Western guys get asked to leave or buy a drink.
The young lads who usually wear uniforms are often denied entry or charged a fee too. You are not alone. Some girls actually do not go with these young lads because they don't want to spend a couple hours or a whole night with their feet up in the air or on all fours. Oorah... Your best bet are the semipros and work through their group if you are a frequent visitor. Some are really into marathon sessions.
The local paper reported today another suspected case where an Indo lady was killed by male (s) from the Asian subcontinent. I am unsure what impact this will have on AC's quest.
FreebieFan
06-12-15, 01:55
Sunday hit Bar 109. For anyone unfamiliar the place is taken over by Indo DH's. Not sure what time it all starts but I arrived at 11 am and place was rocking. I think if you are prepared to stand quite a few drinks this is the closest thing you will get to an orgy with your clothes on. Really no very good looking ones but plenty of 6-7's and all very enthusiastic and almost anything go's. Makes for a unique and surreal experience I think. But my opinion is that if you are a lingerer or spectator then you will be roundly ignored so can be an expensive few hours. Majority of these ladies are up for ST take away if the price is right I believe. Finally, given the size of this place and the atmosphere.there is a very high chance that a drink will be spilled on you. I have heard others comment that this whole scene is a bit hit and miss and I am sure that is correct. .Last trip I stopped by 109 about 1 pm. One slim normal Indon lady sort of latched onto me. We had a drink, hovered around each others bodoes for a bit, the hand in hand went back to my hotel No money was discussed, was just nice and natural and sweet. She stayed for the 2 days of my business trip. 109. Recommended. Or maybe I was just the right guy, right time place.
Last night was the first night out in Wanchai for a LONG time and it showed. Started off in Escape about midnight and it was filling rapidly. I wasn't in the mood to dally, so approached this tall shapely lass that was for sure not the usual fare. As it turns out my inclination was correct. It seems the "Northern Sisters" have discovered HK. I had visions of some superb evenings in a Mongolian lady's company in Beijing and so asked her to give me a "quote" for a ST romp. She replied $3000, I thought she missed heard me so I repeated "short time" and she replied $3000. I told her I didn't want to insult her if that was her price, but that she had just priced herself right out of my evening's plans. She asked me to counter and we did the dance and settled on 1200, with a tip for "extra good service" ie a trip to Greece which was to be determined once she was able to ascertain the size of the manhood to be inserted into her. I wasn't worried.
I then told her that I would only pay upon her leaving, she said no, I said how about 1/2 upfront, the rest on delivery. She said not again, I shook her hand said thanks for your time and the conversation and walked away to her bewildered expression. Find a REALLY cute Thai morsel and bought her a drink and was ready to close the deal when some half drunk AH came up and put his arms around her and asked her to dance. She was trying to be diplomatic and tell him she was talking to someone, but he didn't get the hint. There was a bit of back and forth between the two of them and by that time I had lost interest. She had done nothing to bring this on, unless you count looking really cute and moving to the music in a most alluring way, but it wasn't worth the hassle factor to me.
Went to HKC and walked in, say a 28-32 ish Cambodian, great smile and nice curves. Talked, agreed on the price which included the extras I was in the mood for, she was happy, I was happy. Off to the hotel, everything I wanted and a lot more. I didn't overpay, but did add a little for good service and taxi back. Got the digits in case I ever go to Cambodia or she is in HK again.
All in all, Escape had more than a few stunners, but the pricing (at least the asking price) has gotten silly. At least the girls in the other clubs start at a realistic asking price!
I expect the Mongolian would have been delicious.
Living in PH. First time in HK. ! am a bit fucked up from a accident so just looking, staying in Jordan. No playing on this trip ,but this place is Awesome. PH is the shit for cheap and good pussy, can't beat it. Pinas fuck like crazy and you can pretty much do what you want when you want. But fuck HK is Awesome, Civilization! Fucking nice. PH is the shit hole of SE ASIA. It is more money here but it is so many times nicer and cleaner here. Can't wait to return.
You guys living here are in a pretty awesome place!
I have an overnight stopover, staying near the airport. Has anyone used an escort from escortgirlshongkong. I am considering this option as time is short. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
So I'd just like some advice for my first trip to Hong Kong. I'm not attracted to Chinese girls so I'll mostly be looking for Filipinas. Preferably Filipinas who aren't full on working girls. What's the best way to find them and ones who will be GFE and do bareback? Craigslist? I'm reasonably good looking and young so I'd be willing to try for freebies but I want a sure thing.
Finally got a chance to visit HK. Due to work commitments, did not have a chance to do a lot during my time there but below are some of my observations if it does help people on here.
- Mobile apps are filled with part timers and DH looking to meet and take it to a next level. I must admit I did not get into it much earlier than my visit to build the rapport to line up a few alternatives. I only tried a day before my visit (app starting with B) and still managed to talk to this real cute PH, big eyes, tall for PH (5'7) and nice rack. Turns out she left her work as DH and is trying to do her own thing. I was very impressed with her aspiration and met her for a drink. She was shy but we got along well and spent 1. 5 hrs together. She seemed the kind who wanted something a bit more committed so we didn't really take it any further but it was interesting to get to know their lives and what they face.
- I happen to visit Jordan area for some other reasons and noticed K pressure right away from the descriptions here on the site. Was tempted but had work to complete For those who have not been, its very easy to find.
- I was in LKF area on the weekend nights late and saw plenty of nicely dressed girls hanging around. The impression I got was that they maybe WG or part timers as they didn't seem the type waiting for someone and were making eye contact with passerby including me. Any comments from experienced HK mongers on this?
Overall, HK is buzzing and there is plenty of opportunity to have fun. For those who are going there or planning to, give it a go. The quality I saw was pretty good.
So I'd just like some advice for my first trip to Hong Kong. I'm not attracted to Chinese girls so I'll mostly be looking for Filipinas. Preferably Filipinas who aren't full on working girls. What's the best way to find them and ones who will be GFE and do bareback? Craigslist? I'm reasonably good looking and young so I'd be willing to try for freebies but I want a sure thing.Lots of info on this forum about what you want but be aware that Filipinas may be willing to do bareback but it will cost you a wedding certificate.
Teltel.
FreebieFan
06-16-15, 07:34
. Preferably Filipinas who aren't full on working girls. What's the best way to find them and ones who will be GFE and do bareback? Craigslist? I'm reasonably good looking and young so I'd be willing to try for freebies but I want a sure thing.Some of us are older, (but of course still looking like a cross between Brad and George) and we still hit a high number of freebies.
Maybe your a tad less experienced with Filipinas at the moment. But they really don't have "hes young so I will give it to him " " hes old so he will have to pay " thing. They will generally like you for who you are, not the date on birth cert. There are many professionals so everyone pays for them, and many sweet young things who like a nice time with a nice guy.
I wouldn't look on CL for freebies. You may be better to check dating type applications but no guarantees.
Could you elaborate more about the mobile apps and dating sites. DIA is not available in my country. Will use it when I am there. Please PM me your insights. It could help me during my visit.
Cheers.
AngryCock.
Finally got a chance to visit HK. Due to work commitments, did not have a chance to do a lot during my time there but below are some of my observations if it does help people on here.
- Mobile apps are filled with part timers and DH looking to meet and take it to a next level. I must admit I did not get into it much earlier than my visit to build the rapport to line up a few alternatives. I only tried a day before my visit (app starting with B) and still managed to talk to this real cute PH, big eyes, tall for PH (5'7) and nice rack. Turns out she left her work as DH and is trying to do her own thing. I was very impressed with her aspiration and met her for a drink. She was shy but we got along well and spent 1. 5 hrs together. She seemed the kind who wanted something a bit more committed so we didn't really take it any further but it was interesting to get to know their lives and what they face.
- I happen to visit Jordan area for some other reasons and noticed K pressure right away from the descriptions here on the site. Was tempted but had work to complete For those who have not been, its very easy to find.
- I was in LKF area on the weekend nights late and saw plenty of nicely dressed girls hanging around. The impression I got was that they maybe WG or part timers as they didn't seem the type waiting for someone and were making eye contact with passerby including me. Any comments from experienced HK mongers on this?
Overall, HK is buzzing and there is plenty of opportunity to have fun. For those who are going there or planning to, give it a go. The quality I saw was pretty good.
Last night was the first night out in Wanchai for a LONG time and it showed. Started off in Escape about midnight and it was filling rapidly. I wasn't in the mood to dally, so approached this tall shapely lass that was for sure not the usual fare. As it turns out my inclination was correct. It seems the "Northern Sisters" have discovered HK. I had visions of some superb evenings in a Mongolian lady's company in Beijing and so asked her to give me a "quote" for a ST romp. She replied $3000, I thought she missed heard me so I repeated "short time" and she replied $3000. I told her I didn't want to insult her if that was her price, but that she had just priced herself right out of my evening's plans. She asked me to counter and we did the dance and settled on 1200, with a tip for "extra good service" ie a trip to Greece which was to be determined once she was able to ascertain the size of the manhood to be inserted into her. I wasn't worried.
I then told her that I would only pay upon her leaving, she said no, I said how about 1/2 upfront, the rest on delivery. She said not again, I shook her hand said thanks for your time and the conversation and walked away to her bewildered expression. Find a REALLY cute Thai morsel and bought her a drink and was ready to close the deal when some half drunk AH came up and put his arms around her and asked her to dance. She was trying to be diplomatic and tell him she was talking to someone, but he didn't get the hint. There was a bit of back and forth between the two of them and by that time I had lost interest. She had done nothing to bring this on, unless you count looking really cute and moving to the music in a most alluring way, but it wasn't worth the hassle factor to me.
Went to HKC and walked in, say a 28-32 ish Cambodian, great smile and nice curves. Talked, agreed on the price which included the extras I was in the mood for, she was happy, I was happy. Off to the hotel, everything I wanted and a lot more. I didn't overpay, but did add a little for good service and taxi back. Got the digits in case I ever go to Cambodia or she is in HK again.
All in all, Escape had more than a few stunners, but the pricing (at least the asking price) has gotten silly. At least the girls in the other clubs start at a realistic asking price!
I expect the Mongolian would have been delicious.Speaking of Mongolian women, I had one in Shanghai years ago that would have put all these Wangchai girls to shame. I wanted to marry her but she wanted 100 k US LOL. I passed.
PC out.
I have an overnight stopover, staying near the airport. Has anyone used an escort from escortgirlshongkong. I am considering this option as time is short. Any info would be greatly appreciated.Dessie,
I am in HK next week and was looking at their site as well as hk-glamourgirls. What was your experience? Thanks.
Johnny Rocket
06-22-15, 19:23
I wouldn't look on CL for freebies. You may be better to check dating type applications but no guarantees.Freebies are available on CL but the success rate is low even for legit ads. These girls get hundreds of replies.
You can also try posting your own CL ad and let the girls come to you. Again the hit rate is low, but with some patience it does work.
SportMongr
06-25-15, 05:58
I knew I will be in Hong Kong soon, so I contacted a few DIA (date in Asia, website) girls.
Usually with one or two out of 10 it will be nice chatting, which fast can be getting to naughty chatting.
These girls need work 24 h, can only go out on Sundays, they feel so boring at night, that's why they like chatting.
If you nice to them (and don't talk about sex! They will be nice too, and start naughty chat by their own.
Philippine girls are usually horny, so just wait, they will start usually haha.
She had a Monday off (changed from Sunday to Monday, because I was there that day), we met early morning at hotel lobby.
Soon went to my room and not even 5 min later we landed on the bed. She knew how to do it, really hot girl.
After first round, we went out for some sightseeing and lunch, these girls love that.
Afternoon back to hotel, for round no 2 and no 3.
She liked it and I enjoyed it a lot.
At 6 pm she had to go back home, I brought her to taxi which I paid for her.
Great day for a start in Hong Kong.
Here 2 fotos of her, no clear face of course.So. This girl meets you after some chats. Bangs you minute 1 or so. Yes you feed her go out on a GFE date. Bang her more times. How many here believe it's right to give her some work money? I do. She didn't bang you for lunch and taxi ride paid to go home. I have a bud who does this. He claims he won't pay a girl for sex. But he travels to sex- poor countries. Goes on "dates" buys some food and drink. Bangs the girl and sends her on for minimal taxi fare. I can't be the only one who thinks that is not kosher. Comments?
Thomas Jefferson
06-25-15, 08:54
So. This girl meets you after some chats. Bangs you minute 1 or so. Yes you feed her go out on a GFE date. Bang her more times. How many here believe it's right to give her some work money? I do. She didn't bang you for lunch and taxi ride paid to go home. I have a bud who does this. He claims he won't pay a girl for sex. But he travels to sex- poor countries. Goes on "dates" buys some food and drink. Bangs the girl and sends her on for minimal taxi fare. I can't be the only one who thinks that is not kosher. Comments?Believe it or not, I spent a lot of money for working girls around the world, much in China and Hong Kong and Macau, but I love to have the hunt for a freebie too.
I still in regular contact with that freebie girl, she is not a working girl at all and it would have insulted her if I offered to give some money.
I know these girls are poor, there are around 500.000 Philippine poor girls in Hong Kong. That girl just wanted to have a nice day and with some luck you can get in their panties.
She still thanks me from time to time for the nice day I gave her and hopes to repeat it soon.
That doesn't stop me to go to some bars the very same evening and pick up another girl who I paid 1000 for short time, and next day to 141 building to pay another girl.
I try to treat girls nice, so even the 141 girl went out with me for dinner, and we still have contact over wechat.
Oh, and I met some DIA girls, with whom I had no chance to get into her panties at all, still I enjoyed a nice day with them.
The most important thing is, don't tell any lies to that freebie girls, e. G. That you love them or make them hope to get married etc.
Be honest with them. I always say that I am searching a friend for my free time in Hong Kong and even tell them that I am married.
SportMongr
06-26-15, 19:53
Believe it or not, I spent a lot of money for working girls around the world, much in China and Hong Kong and Macau, but I love to have the hunt for a freebie too.
I still in regular contact with that freebie girl, she is not a working girl at all and it would have insulted her if I offered to give some money.
I know these girls are poor, there are around 500.000 Philippine poor girls in Hong Kong. That girl just wanted to have a nice day and with some luck you can get in their panties.
She still thanks me from time to time for the nice day I gave her and hopes to repeat it soon.
That doesn't stop me to go to some bars the very same evening and pick up another girl who I paid 1000 for short time, and next day to 141 building to pay another girl.
I try to treat girls nice, so even the 141 girl went out with me for dinner, and we still have contact over wechat.
Oh, and I met some DIA girls, with whom I had no chance to get into her panties at all, still I enjoyed a nice day with them.
The most important thing is, don't tell any lies to that freebie girls, e. G. That you love them or make them hope to get married etc.
Be honest with them. I always say that I am searching a friend for my free time in Hong Kong and even tell them that I am married.That's cool, yes I agree. Not all DIA ladies are working girls etc. I seem to get the impression that most are not but still have this 1 foot in the door. Maybe a bit in denial idea about 1 nighter dates. Def not cool to lie. Sadly not too many like you. The guys I know usually have no intention of keeping in touch.
SportMongr
06-26-15, 20:06
My first night in HK. Wanchai bar scene. Wow? Amazed at the scene. Not in a good way. Not at all sure what the myth about fun to be had in HK. I would like to shed light on the myth. If you ever visited thailand or pilipines. . you will be very dissapointed with HK. Mamasan from AC. Tried to sell me a $40 lady drink and told me that I could choose a girl for around 1 HR. $150 and up to 450 all night usa. Oh the girls to choose 6-7 cute pinay. The 1 that would only be worth the consideration. Was on the phone etc. With attitude like. I want my sister's to eat. I'm ok to sit back. And make you beg for a premium. Africans on the street. Prob want insane rates as well. Not my thing. Wow! And discos. Filled with sausage. And a few pro's in the crowd. Many. Drunk foreigners dressed up in 95 f heat acting as if they are the ceo of google. Going to be a slow tourist visit for me. Unless a taxi driver could point me to building 141. I guess that's the st spot. For reasonable $. Any directions. Or hours of operation would be appreciated. Hopefully night 2 more excitement.
My first night in HK. Wanchai bar scene. Wow? Amazed at the scene. Not in a good way. Not at all sure what the myth about fun to be had in HK. I would like to shed light on the myth. If you ever visited thailand or pilipines. . you will be very dissapointed with HK. Mamasan from AC. Tried to sell me a $40 lady drink and told me that I could choose a girl for around 1 HR. $150 and up to 450 all night usa. Oh the girls to choose 6-7 cute pinay. The 1 that would only be worth the consideration. Was on the phone etc. With attitude like. I want my sister's to eat. I'm ok to sit back. And make you beg for a premium. Africans on the street. Prob want insane rates as well. Not my thing. Wow! And discos. Filled with sausage. And a few pro's in the crowd. Many. Drunk foreigners dressed up in 95 f heat acting as if they are the ceo of google. Going to be a slow tourist visit for me. Unless a taxi driver could point me to building 141. I guess that's the st spot. For reasonable $. Any directions. Or hours of operation would be appreciated. Hopefully night 2 more excitement.Sport,
I do not know were you are from, but I find your report quite funny. My first experience as a monger was in HK and it still have this special feeling about the city. Later on I have been to Philliphines and Thailand and other destinations, so I understand your point if view. Hong Kong is definitely not a cheap option anymore but the nightlife here is beyond comparison. There is a special "vibe" about it and you can only appreciate it if you are a part of it. I have been lucky to make friends with a lot of working girls, mainly from the Philippines. I know their attitudes and they way they look at the types like us. In my experience, most of them are quite laid back and takes what comes. We are an asset to them as customers! They are mostly nice and they do not ask much. Most girls from from Phillippines and Indonesia are from poor conditions. It does not mean they are bad in any way. They just try their best to survive. But these day HK has mostly older girls. A few years ago, the scene had 18-25 years old girls in bars like Dusk Till Dawn and Amazonia, but now that is rare. I still love Wan Chai because of the special blend of party atmosphere for both Asians and Europeans. If you only looking for sex; try the walk ups (all over town). It will give you a "release" but a boring experience. Why not try an inflatable doll instead!! It is almost the same. Wan Chai will provide you the vibrancy you need. Wake up and enjoy your life!
My first night in HK. Wanchai bar scene. Wow? Amazed at the scene. Not in a good way. Not at all sure what the myth about fun to be had in HK. {S N I P}You are obviously a guy who does not worry about doing research before visiting a place. Did you really try to board a flight to China without researching visa requirements?? Wow!!
However, if you want to enjoy HK, you need to RTFF. A bit of reading can pay dividends! Wanchai has different types of venues, and it is not the only mongering destination in HK, or even HKI. And yes, world class cities like HK are of course different to poverty stricken AC or Pattaya.
Ikks
You are obviously a guy who does not worry about doing research before visiting a place. Did you really try to board a flight to China without enquiring about visa requirements?? Wow!!
However, if you want to enjoy HK, you need to RTFF. A bit of research can pay dividends! And Wanchai is not the only mongering destination in HK, or even HKI.
Ikksman.If he really finds the mystical 141 building, there fun is guaranteed.
SportMongr
06-27-15, 04:39
You are obviously a guy who does not worry about doing research before visiting a place. Did you really try to board a flight to China without researching visa requirements?? Wow!!
However, if you want to enjoy HK, you need to RTFF. A bit of reading can pay dividends! Wanchai has different types of venues, and it is not the only mongering destination in HK, or even HKI. And yes, world class cities like HK are of course different to poverty stricken AC or Pattaya.
IkksYes. Brother. I still can't believe that China error LOL. Wow. I'm still amazed at the stupidity of that. Cost me an extra $500. I'm traveling with a friend and thought he had that info covered. He has a chinese roommate (giving him advice) for christ sake! Spilled milk. I have been doing research all morning. Joined the 141 and after hours reading etc. Still not sure about things. I'm on vacay and very busy during work time.
Hong Kong is an interesting place from last night. I get the vibe. I live in LA it's similar. Prob more so to NY. And yes. The quick brothel fun. Is similar to a blow up doll. But I have learned to appreciate that venue. After years of the club scene and all nighter route. To me why travel to Asia for that $150-$500 when I can stay in la or go to vegas. I come to Asia for the value. Obviously was not expecting that in HK. Just was surprised at the offerings here. So my views are from someone with a short stay. Not having time to uncover the local road less traveled by. God bless you guys that have this place wired. This seems like the asian Rio de Jan. The variety is nice.
Hey guys,
I'm an experienced monger, but this is my first time in HK. I was jazzed about having fun here, but right after I arrived (don't laugh) I had a little medical problem flair up. While it's entirely cosmetic, it's damping my enthusiasm for interacting with the ladies. I'm hoping it will get better in the next few days.
Meanwhile, I have nobody to get a beer with, I'm happy to be a wingman if someone needs one. Just PM me.
I'm staying in Kowloon. I'll probably go up to this Jordan area tonight, since it's not too far from my home base.
SportMongr
06-27-15, 10:49
Hey guys,
I'm an experienced monger, but this is my first time in HK. I was jazzed about having fun here, but right after I arrived (don't laugh) I had a little medical problem flair up. While it's entirely cosmetic, it's damping my enthusiasm for interacting with the ladies. I'm hoping it will get better in the next few days.
Meanwhile, I have nobody to get a beer with, I'm happy to be a wingman if someone needs one. Just PM me.
I'm staying in Kowloon. I'll probably go up to this Jordan area tonight, since it's not too far from my home base.1st) medical issue: I'm responding because I just had a similar situation. Last night while walking miles in 98 f humid heat I got a rash around my belt line. It looks bad. Was worried a bit. But it's cosmetic and the ladies are well skilled at telling the difference. My advice. Don't worry! They need the work as well. And as long as your not overly concerned or worried they won't be. I would not address it unless they do and then give them the honest truth they want your $.
2nd) newbie must for a 1st trip to HK! Check out the walk ups. I googled fugi building location after a full morning of research. Sad I have 3 days in Hk and 1/2 a day spent researching. When you can just google the F building and go!
I arrive. Take elevator to top there are 21 floors. 3 other Asian dudes jump in small tiny elevator with no AC. Now I'm sweating my ass off. Just what I want to do before a romp. The get out the lift and there is like 5 doors on each floor. Some have lights on,some dark, some with signs " I am currently getting dicked" so.
1st door level 20. I had singing and music so I knock. Door opens and a smoking hot white girl blond hair in a bathing suit opens. I was shocked. Was expecting Asian persuasion. Due to my research I heard the White Russians were extra. I kindly said wow,but I'm looking for Chinese food. Ni head down a floor.
Now the Asians in the elevator are on my floor knocking on doors as well. It reminds me of when I was a kid during a Halloween candy hunt, I want to say " trick or treat!. Give me something good to eat! Only they are wearing the costumes. I ditch the 2 man group competing with my candy hunt. After all they are my competition. And I can tell they are trying to jump in front of my doors. And floors as we make are way down. I'm Skip a floor to get ahead. Uh oh More Asian dudes. I notice they just knock. Door opens. They look and walk away. Not sure why? Most these girls are smoking hot I at least like to say "Hi. What's on the menu". Sometimes this doesn't work. Door no. 2 girl doesn't want to talk. In or out? I say bye. Door 3. Smoking out Korean looks no girl. Say's Hi. 600. Ouch! I was trying to make this a bargain. Adios. Door 3 another korean looking lady but this time late 20's early 30's she seems friendly. Says 600 45 min. I said too much. She wants an offer. I said 300? I get the no thank you and door to my face. I was going low to elicit a 400 450 offer.
So Asian dudes all around knocking on doors and playing ding dong ditch. Also hovering behind as I knock and talk.
Get to 11th floor A1. Girl opens up with nice smile and French maid costume. Beautiful white skin and face looks like an anime character. Looks Chinese. Who know's she doesn't speak English. Just laughs at my questions "what is your name, where are you from?" Answers none of them with a nice vibe. But says 480. Well I take the bait. I am here for the experience not to play knock on every door. I get in and she takes on an erotic vibe. Starts to un dress me. Feels on my soaking wet back and abs and is not repulsed by the sweat. Onto her showering me. I get a chance to relax. Get out and start the play. Upset a bit because I smell a tinge of smoke on her lips. But I guess non- smokers are rare in this profession. She lets me play suck on titles feel on ass. She has a hairy muff like in those Japanese porns. Like a black troll doll is growing out from between her legs. It was hot! I like variety and the shaved Bush is cool but gets old. Before I get a chance to DATY she must have thrown 1/2 a tube of KY on as my hands slipped right off her snatch! Dam there goes my clam chowder meal. I was not about to gargle KY. So she throws me back takes a bit of control and starts licking my nipples. I start wondering if she will jump when she see's this rash right on my belt line above my crank as she moves down. She doesn't. Moves to suck real well. Licks balls. But not very long. It's ok because I was at full salute and any more would have compromised the moment. She jumps on top and her vagina is nice. Not tight as a 21 yr. Old newbie but not full blown potatoe salad. Just right. She's real into it. Kissing on top. Flip her to missionary where I can easily unload. She starts screaming and I can tell she wants me to finish. The only downer about these types of operations. But no I. Getting my $ worth. Doggy is my favorite and she has this cute tiny but curvy lower body. Not a spinner. But just 2 nice ass handle to grab onto. In my opinion much better then the spinners. You get more of a smack from the back. Finish after looking at her juiced up snatch fro. The back. And mirrors to see her face at the same time. Whhhooooooooaaaaaa. Too bad I couldn't rest and hit it again 20 minutes. Later I could have with her performance and talent.
When finished I ask her. Will you be here tomorrow? Thinking maybe I get an even better experience the 2nd time around. In my experience this is usually the case. But she at least acts like she doesn't understand me. I pull out my phone show her a calendar and she points it out that she is here until next Thursday. But not goi g to work Sunday. Agh. But then think probably many others here I. The building. I commented that she speaks English and that she is just pretending not to speak to me. And she laughs and I think in her eyes 90% that she does and just doesn't want to speak English. To customers. It's to her advantage as most of you vets understand.
As I do the math in my room 500/7 is 70. Wow. I had my math wrong I thought it was around 50 going in. It was a cool experience. Definitely recommend it for anyone visiting HK at least once. But at that rate I do not think I will be going back soon. I have Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam, philipines all next on the stopping grounds in the next month. And my 70 will be better used else where. But dam that chick was Hot! Can't find that in t land or PI. Actually maybe she was Vietnamese for all I know. She did have the milk skin and dark Bush. Now to think of it.
Anyway. Pressure relieved. Someone mentioned. It's like banging a blow up doll. Well I beg to differ. Correct there is not a 2nd and 3rd. And talks etc. But for (350-500 American $) not sure that is necessary when this can be had for the 300- to tourist rate 480-500 HK dollar rate.
That's quite a story there! I googled Fuji building and watched a video of some guy going all the way down the floors knocking on doors as he went. Never seen that before.
Hello Gents.
This one should be very easy. I was hoping someone might have a suggestion for a lass to come to my hotel for a nice massage, with or without a long list of extras.
I know there are a lot of "offers" on craigslist and backpage, but thought I would see if anyone could share a name or contact.
While I am begging for info, I haven't been in HK on a Saturday in forever, are the DH's out very much on Sat. Afternoon, or is that reserved for Sunday's only?
Thanks in advance for the info!
Sky.
JackTheLad2
06-30-15, 09:48
I was hoping someone might have a suggestion for a lass to come to my hotel for a nice massage, with or without a long list of extras.
While I am begging for info, I haven't been in HK on a Saturday in forever, are the DH's out very much on Sat. Afternoon, or is that reserved for Sunday's only?
Sky.Plenty hotel massage girls available. Google it. I have used several different ones in the past and never been disappointed. There is one site that you deal with online and they guarantee a girl within 20 minutes. Extras always available for a reasonable price. One of my regular girls now dispenses with the massage if you know what I mean.
As for DH's, they are around nearly all the time now but very much on Saturdays and Sundays at the usual haunts.
Reckon I may be free Saturday.
JackTheLad2
06-30-15, 16:07
Reckon I may be free Saturday.LOL!
And worth looking forward to!!
Reckon I may be free Saturday.
Hello Gents.
This one should be very easy.Your right. One sure thing already! LOL.
Another regular poster recently posted about successful random meets in Wanchai. IMHO, it is true all over. Was in Bali a couple weeks ago had an interesting time with a couple cougars that wanted a go. Took a waitress a quarter of their age instead!
Unless a taxi driver could point me to building 141. I guess that's the st spot. For reasonable $. Any directions. Or hours of operation would be appreciated. Hopefully night 2 more excitement.RTFF here for an interesting read and directions.
Day 7, Hong Kong to Guilin.
Thanks to people who have posted positive feedback and also big thanks to those people who answered my questions on here prior to my trip. Your help was very useful and enabled me to have a really memorable time in Hong Kong.
Finally if you'd like to continue reading, I will be posting the rest of my diary on the Manila and Angeles threads.
I am extremely tolerant wrt bad spelling and grammar, but sometimes poor English can impart the wrong meaning or at least confuse the reader.
Troll
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll
Perhaps "trawl" was the word intended to be used. Some (many?) readers would not pick this up, and thus the esteemed JacktheLad2 could hereafter be labelled a "troll" in the minds of those readers.
Or perhaps the writer deliberately labelled our Lad as a "troll"? But who knows, unless the question is raised!
Other common potentially misleading errors include:
Using the word "inciteful" when "insightful" was the intended meaning.
Failing to distinguish between HKD and USD (or other $) - might be obvious to HK residents and frequent visitors, but . . .
Ikksman
I think the original poster was using "troll" as a verb, meaning to fish using a baited line, in which case the usage is not at all pejorative and refers only to trolling for companions.
GE.
Yikes! There be a troll (or Troll) in this here forum with a big pole sticking out of its eye (maybe arse) and a foot in its mouth (or both feet)!
To paraphrase something else written a couple millennia ago, we are fishermen. IMHO, JTL might have better luck with a handsum wallet as a lure. Good for catching ladies and sailfish. Though, for the latter, the captain usually takes a much bigger bite than many ladies.
Many ladies will ask you to buy them a dildo later, in private.
(HKD, HK$ or the official currency of the HKSAR) 15.
Remember, Google and RTFF are your friends.
Now, back to our regular programming... Where did Lancelot leave off....
Somewhere15
07-04-15, 06:40
So. This girl meets you after some chats. Bangs you minute 1 or so. Yes you feed her go out on a GFE date. Bang her more times. How many here believe it's right to give her some work money? I do. She didn't bang you for lunch and taxi ride paid to go home. I have a bud who does this. He claims he won't pay a girl for sex. But he travels to sex- poor countries. Goes on "dates" buys some food and drink. Bangs the girl and sends her on for minimal taxi fare. I can't be the only one who thinks that is not kosher. Comments?I only have similar experience in Bangkok, and I act more or less like your bud and also have the stand I don't pay for sex.
In Bangkok and over the years I have a handfull off working girls who are fine with this.
Probably you can look also different to this: if the girl don't go out she stays the whole day at her room and watching tv.
No other social contacts, by having a Farang who great her well and give attention to here she is willing to have sex with them.
Many of these girls even enjoy the sex too.
My experience and there are always people who immediately say "cheap charly" or similar but I just have time and switchend some years ago from pickimg up girls from a disco and pay them a lot with also the risk that back in the room she turnster out not the most willing person you thaumaturg she was before.
My standard for a DIA or ThaiFriendly contact which I use in Bangkok is always, meet in a public place like a shopping mall and around eating time. Mostly in the first 5 minutes I judge already yes or no. When it is a yes we first go to look which movie we want to see, buy tickets for 1 or 2 hours later then have some food and afterwards we see the movie.
Specially in the cinema you can lay your arm around her sholder and if she gives in much more touching kissing and more can followed. For me with the right girl that's always a kind of foreplay.
So you I believe that the story you reactie to is and was happend and from Many experiences I now that the girls (in BKK) are happy with that (at least I have a handfull of repetor).
Dessie,
I am in HK next week and was looking at their site as well as hk-glamourgirls. What was your experience? Thanks.I had to change the trip dates now won't go thro until September. I am still waiting for feedback or info about the agency. Let me know if you use them. Thank you in advance.
Hi guys,
I plan to travel to HongKong for a few days next week. It's mainly a mongering trip (with added sight-seeing) as I am really get fed up of the overpriced market in Dubai (where I live). Discovering 141 was what really motivated me to go on this trip. I am not really a bar person, so picking someone up is not on the top of my list. I prefer incall locations, with no hassle of finding girl-friendly hotels etc.
I will only be focusing on Asian girls, as after RTFF I have come to the conclusion that non-Asians are over-priced with poor service, just like how WGs from Russia and EE in Dubai are.
I have narrowed the search down to flats in the HK Island area (Causeway Bay etc.) and also girls that speak English. Even after the mentioned parameters, the search led me to a plethora of girls. Is it safe to assume that the photos (especially ones with the 141 watermark) are genuine photos? I take it that I just call the number, book a slot and turn up? Any other pointers would be greatly appreciated!
TIA!
How many here believe it's right to give her some work money? I do. She didn't bang you for lunch and taxi ride paid to go home. I have a bud who does this. He claims he won't pay a girl for sex. But he travels to sex- poor countries. Goes on "dates" buys some food and drink. Bangs the girl and sends her on for minimal taxi fare. I can't be the only one who thinks that is not kosher. Comments?You're right of course, and in certain poor countries girls will allow themselves to be done treated this way. Other countries (especially in Africa) not at all, the norm is girls wouldn't let a guy away with that. BTW, its not 'work money', rather a gift you'd be giving, a token of appreciation.
Traveler1234
07-11-15, 01:24
I have narrowed the search down to flats in the HK Island area (Causeway Bay etc.) and also girls that speak English. Even after the mentioned parameters, the search led me to a plethora of girls. Is it safe to assume that the photos (especially ones with the 141 watermark) are genuine photos? I take it that I just call the number, book a slot and turn up? Any other pointers would be greatly appreciated!
TIA!Most don't speak English, especially if they're from China.
All, repeat ALL photos are photoshop.
Having said that, you'll enjoy yourself with 141. I only have done HK Island but another highly rated area is Mongkok. Supposedly more bang for the buck. You can find more reviews and info at the 141 forum.
Hi guys,
I plan to travel to HongKong for a few days next week. It's mainly a mongering trip (with added sight-seeing) as I am really get fed up of the overpriced market in Dubai (where I live). Discovering 141 was what really motivated me to go on this trip. I am not really a bar person, so picking someone up is not on the top of my list. I prefer incall locations, with no hassle of finding girl-friendly hotels etc.
I will only be focusing on Asian girls, as after RTFF I have come to the conclusion that non-Asians are over-priced with poor service, just like how WGs from Russia and EE in Dubai are.
I have narrowed the search down to flats in the HK Island area (Causeway Bay etc.) and also girls that speak English. Even after the mentioned parameters, the search led me to a plethora of girls. Is it safe to assume that the photos (especially ones with the 141 watermark) are genuine photos? I take it that I just call the number, book a slot and turn up? Any other pointers would be greatly appreciated!
TIA!
Hi guys,
I plan to travel to HongKong for a few days next week. It's mainly a mongering trip (with added sight-seeing) as I am really get fed up of the overpriced market in Dubai (where I live). Discovering 141 was what really motivated me to go on this trip. I am not really a bar person, so picking someone up is not on the top of my list. I prefer incall locations, with no hassle of finding girl-friendly hotels etc.
I will only be focusing on Asian girls, as after RTFF I have come to the conclusion that non-Asians are over-priced with poor service, just like how WGs from Russia and EE in Dubai are.
I have narrowed the search down to flats in the HK Island area (Causeway Bay etc.) and also girls that speak English. Even after the mentioned parameters, the search led me to a plethora of girls. Is it safe to assume that the photos (especially ones with the 141 watermark) are genuine photos? I take it that I just call the number, book a slot and turn up? Any other pointers would be greatly appreciated!
TIA!The girls operate out of "1 woman brothels" which are legal. There can only be 1 girl per apartment. To get around this someone organized a ton of apartments on a single floor of a building and then just rents the rooms out to these girls as independents. So they have to pay to use the room.
Anyways, the buildings are all spelled out on go141.com. The buildings and girls on the island are more expensive, but may have more English speakers than the ones on theKowloon side, but that doesn't mean better quality or service, it's just a factor of cost of rent.
In my experience the photos on the website match the girls well, but of course if they hide their stomachs in the photo that can mean stretch marks, etc.
You don't need an English speaker in my opinion. These aren't GFE girls. They want you in and out. A lot of them are mechanical. I have found one that was a bit more GFE, spoke good English, etc. But she was Indonesian (GiGi).
You don't need an appointment, however expect the hotter girls on 141 to be more occupied if you don't. The dilemma is how to make an appointment with a non English speaker and I'd just say don't bother.
Just go to one of the floors of one of the buildings and look to see if your desired girl is available, if so knock on the door. If she doesn't match the photos then just walk away. People do it constantly so no big deal. Anyways, if your girl isn't available (they flip a sign over when occupied) then just walk around and look at the other 20 apartments on the floor and see if you can find something you like. There will be a few other mongers walking around, just ignore them, they are harmless and just looking to get laid just like you.
Expect a 30 minute session, including shower before and after, no kissing, etc.
So to be honest, if your goal is to monger just the 141 girls, it doesn't really matter where you say, you can take a 10 min subway ride and have as much access to any area as you would if they were down the street.
Now, by limiting yourself to the 141 girls, you are honestly missing out on the best part of HK which is the freelancers in the Wan Chai bars.
My advice: go to the 141 girls during the day when everyone else is busy at work. A lot of them open at noon and get busy at 5 pm after work.
Then, take a break for dinner and hit Wan Chai in the evening. There are several short term motels right there by the bars, don't be afraid to use them, all the girls know where they are. Alternatively, get a private room in Wan Chai walking distance from the bars. None of the hotels care and if you are worried then just get an AirBNB or something.
Have some drinks and chat up a girl, then when you find one you like take her up to your room. The prices vary by race / nationality and quality.
You can get a hot Indonesian for as cheap as $500-1000 HKD (70-150 USD) for short time and $1500-$2500 ($200-300 USD) for all night (don't pay ahead of time or leave any valuables out, ha). I've had Spanish, Colombian, etc. Girls ask for $4000-$6000 overnight, just up to you really.
Anyways, the point is don't come all the way here to limit yourself to 141 girls who speak English, waste of time in my opinion.
Go for two 141 hot girls during the day, and 1-2 Wan Chai girls in the evening depending if you are looking for numbers or quality.
Then repeat. All in, you will spend like $300 USD per day and have sex with 4 hot girls.
$1500 HKD overnight is a sort of going rate.
Spend some time on the 141 forums and it is all pretty well spelled out for you.
Lastly, Sunday is fun day. All of the domestic helpers that live in HK are off on Sundays so they all go to the bars in Wan Chai to get drunk. They will go home with you for free, some will hit you up for $500 for like 2 hours.
Bottom line, get a room in Wan Chai!
Does anyone know if freelancers have disappeared from Hari's bar at the Holiday Inn Golden Mile Tsim Sha Tsui? I read something on Trip Advisor that indicates management may have banned them, but it's hard to tell from the post. I'm trying to decide whether to reserve a hotel in Kowloon and the answer to the question would have a bearing on that. Thanks!
I'm assuming it's because the trade is legal and with sites like 141, and the Wan Chai area being so upfront that there is little reason to report on it? Personally, I find Kowloon (near Tsim Sha Tsui) more exciting than Wan Chai. You can find Africans, Mainland Chinese, Thai, Russian. Hell, even a couple fugly Indians in the TST area. The Mong Kok area is better for walk ups than the Fuji Building (IMO). The one thing that Wan Chai is good for, aside from the pubs, is if you want the GFE, BUT if you really want the GFE from a Pinay you're much better off going to a place like Angeles or Cebu. I live in, and am new too, the Guangdong province. I'm sure there is some sort of monger scene here, but why bother when I've got HK two hours away.
I had to change the trip dates now won't go thro until September. I am still waiting for feedback or info about the agency. Let me know if you use them. Thank you in advance.Check 141 sites, there are few agencies with pictures of girls (most quite accurate) and prices ranging from 900 HK to 1200 HK for visit.
CC.
PukiMonster
07-15-15, 03:07
...Lastly, Sunday is fun day. All of the domestic helpers that live in HK are off on Sundays so they all go to the bars in Wan Chai to get drunk. They will go home with you for free, some will hit you up for $500 for like 2 hours.
Bottom line, get a room in Wan Chai!Wow! Unbelievable! Every Sunday, 300,000 domestic helpers filling the Wanchai bars to overflowing, all getting drunk and willing to go home with me! Absolute paradise!
Hang on; who are those Pinay and Indo girls I see all over HK on any day of the week? I suppose they must be tourists as there are many older women amongst them! But if there were 300,000 drunk domestic helpers in Wanchai on a Sunday, there would not be room for anyone else to move? Unbelievable!
According to one of the local forums, yes you are correct. They have been banned. Years ago I was told that they moved around from Hari's to Sticky Fingers to some of the bars in Knutsford Terrace. Now there are a lot more bars in TST so most likely they go to other places as well. One time I dropped off a couple of girls from Hari's to Escape, and I have seen freelancers in Lan Kwai Fong as well.
Does anyone know if freelancers have disappeared from Hari's bar at the Holiday Inn Golden Mile Tsim Sha Tsui? I read something on Trip Advisor that indicates management may have banned them, but it's hard to tell from the post. I'm trying to decide whether to reserve a hotel in Kowloon and the answer to the question would have a bearing on that. Thanks!
Wow! Unbelievable! Every Sunday, 300,000 domestic helpers filling the Wanchai bars to overflowing, all getting drunk and willing to go home with me! Absolute paradise!
Hang on; who are those Pinay and Indo girls I see all over HK on any day of the week? I suppose they must be tourists as there are many older women amongst them! But if there were 300,000 drunk domestic helpers in Wanchai on a Sunday, there would not be room for anyone else to move? Unbelievable!Looks like you have no clue about Sunday afternoons in Wanchai and have never been to HKG. Sunday afternoons there are a pussy heaven and if you don't manage to get laid there is something wrong with you!
Does anyone know if freelancers have disappeared from Hari's bar at the Holiday Inn Golden Mile Tsim Sha Tsui? I read something on Trip Advisor that indicates management may have banned them, but it's hard to tell from the post. I'm trying to decide whether to reserve a hotel in Kowloon and the answer to the question would have a bearing on that. Thanks!I saw a couple girls there when I was in Hong Kong in late May. It was pretty early and I didn't stay late so I'm not sure if it picked up later on. In my (very limited) experience in Hari's over the years it's always been hit and miss. I've seen anywhere from no girls to 10-15 girls.
But to your greater point: stay where you like; the taxi to / from Kowloon to Wanchai is cheap, subway even cheaper, and believe me girls won't have any problem coming back to your Kowloon hotel from the Wanchai bars if you choose to stay there. They may / will likely ask for a bit of extra taxi fare, but that's nominal IMO and not a reason to stay in Wanchai. I personally much prefer Kowloon and have never had a girl refuse me because of the location.
I'm a Guangzhou expat and I made a spur of the moment trip to HK. I arrived in by train at 9 PM and took a taxi to Mong Kok. Walked around looking for a cheap hotel. I saw plenty of hourly ones. I tried one and spoke to the lady in Mandarin. She wanted to sell me the room for two hours, but I told her I want to stay the night. She said I could stay until 12 PM the next day for the price of two hours.
I took a shower and walked around. There were many hostess bars. In fact there was one right next to my hotel. I saw some pink signs on Reclamation street and knew this was a place to monger. I went upstairs, and saw the line up. A young fit girl walks into the room. I'm thinking not bad. Then to my surprise, about 10 other girls follow her. They are old and fat, so I choose the first one. The tout wants the money up front. She was very mechanical, and would not let my body touch hers during missionary. After about 3 minutes, she complains it hurts too much. She offers to give me a HJ, but I give her a stern look and tell her to get out. I was going to ask for another girl, but I didn't want to start any trouble. This guy could be a Triad for all I know.
Having a case of blue balls, I go to the next brothel. I choose a cute girl with large tits. She is a real trooper but still a little mechanical for my tastes. I'm use to the GFE / PSE service I get here in Guangzhou.
After that, I head to Wan Chai for drinks. Many SWs and girls in bars proposition me, but I've already shot my goo for the night. I saw many what looked like strip clubs on Lockehart road. I was curious, but something was telling me these places were a clip joint. I went to a bar, used their WiFi and did some research on the internet to find out it basically it is.
Here's some questions to the local HK expats. What kind of service will I get from the Bar Girls / SWs in Wan Chai? Will it be more GFE?
I saw many Thai Massages, in Wan Chai. Do these places offer extra services?
How about the Hostess bars in Mong Kok? What can I expect from those?
After that, I head to Wan Chai for drinks. Many SWs and girls in bars proposition me, but I've already shot my goo for the night. I saw many what looked like strip clubs on Lockehart road. I was curious, but something was telling me these places were a clip joint. I went to a bar, used their WiFi and did some research on the internet to find out it basically it is.
Here's some questions to the local HK expats. What kind of service will I get from the Bar Girls / SWs in Wan Chai? Will it be more GFE?
How about the Hostess bars in Mong Kok? What can I expect from those?I think the strip club type bars along Lockhart Road aren't exactly clip joints, but they're overpriced and you're pressured to buy lady drinks for the girls. I ventured into one once for the adventure, knowing full well what I might be getting into, and it wasn't half as bad as I expected. I forget what I paid for a beer but it was maybe 2 x normal price, and I did manage to surreptitiously get the phone number of a cute girl who was sitting with me. When I left there were no ridiculous charges on my tab or anything like that, so again, I wouldn't really call it a clip joint. I never followed up with the girl; no need really since there are plenty of other options in the working girl bars in the area which are available for immediate delivery, as it were. The girls in the strip clubs I think are available for takeout but at some ridiculous price like 3000/ hour.
BTW service levels from girls in the "normal" bars vary, but I've never been disappointed with take out from places like Escape, New Makati, etc. Much depends on you. Not only on your demeanor but just as importantly on your ability to choose wisely.
PukiMonster
07-15-15, 23:52
Looks like you have no clue about Sunday afternoons in Wanchai and have never been to HKG. Sunday afternoons there are a pussy heaven and if you don't manage to get laid there is something wrong with you!Actually I do have a clue. I lived in HK for 3 years in the 90's, and again for 2 years in 2003/4, and currently live in SZ and go to HK 2 or 3 times per week. I also speak Tagalog and some Cebuano (I have lived PI as well).
I am aware that:
O a significant number of DHers have other days of the week off as their employers work at weekends.
O many of the Indo girls do not drink alcohol.
O many of the DHers meet and gather at other points around HKI, Kowloon and the NTs.
O many DHers want to spend their precious free time with their friends, and not some drunken gweilo.
However, HK (and not just Wanchai) is a great place to meet pussy (my favourite place to meet pinay pussy is around World Wide House).
You have just been watching the flowers whilst riding on horseback (Chinese proverb).
Regarding the thai massages in wan chai my experience is that mos are legit and most of the times I got an excellent massage for a decent price for HK. The installations are not luxurios but the massages are good.
I'm a Guangzhou expat and I made a spur of the moment trip to HK. I arrived in by train at 9 PM and took a taxi to Mong Kok. Walked around looking for a cheap hotel. I saw plenty of hourly ones. I tried one and spoke to the lady in Mandarin. She wanted to sell me the room for two hours, but I told her I want to stay the night. She said I could stay until 12 PM the next day for the price of two hours.
I took a shower and walked around. There were many hostess bars. In fact there was one right next to my hotel. I saw some pink signs on Reclamation street and knew this was a place to monger. I went upstairs, and saw the line up. A young fit girl walks into the room. I'm thinking not bad. Then to my surprise, about 10 other girls follow her. They are old and fat, so I choose the first one. The tout wants the money up front. She was very mechanical, and would not let my body touch hers during missionary. After about 3 minutes, she complains it hurts too much. She offers to give me a HJ, but I give her a stern look and tell her to get out. I was going to ask for another girl, but I didn't want to start any trouble. This guy could be a Triad for all I know.
Having a case of blue balls, I go to the next brothel. I choose a cute girl with large tits. She is a real trooper but still a little mechanical for my tastes. I'm use to the GFE / PSE service I get here in Guangzhou.
After that, I head to Wan Chai for drinks. Many SWs and girls in bars proposition me, but I've already shot my goo for the night. I saw many what looked like strip clubs on Lockehart road. I was curious, but something was telling me these places were a clip joint. I went to a bar, used their WiFi and did some research on the internet to find out it basically it is.
Here's some questions to the local HK expats. What kind of service will I get from the Bar Girls / SWs in Wan Chai? Will it be more GFE?
I saw many Thai Massages, in Wan Chai. Do these places offer extra services?
How about the Hostess bars in Mong Kok? What can I expect from those?
Ramn / Jsxyz, Thanks for the replies. I'm not staying at the Holiday Inn but did swing by at about 10:30 PM last night. There were roughly 25 male customers. And 6 women, at least 3 of which did not appear to be on the game.
Ramn / Jsxyz, Thanks for the replies. I'm not staying at the Holiday Inn but did swing by at about 10:30 PM last night. There were roughly 25 male customers. And 6 women, at least 3 of which did not appear to be on the game.So that means 3 WERE on the game?
Most likely they were; that's not the kind of bar where single girls will hang out for a glass of wine after a hard day's work at the office.
I'll be in HKG myself in a few weeks, and as always I'll make a point to stop by. I've never had any luck there, except if you count pulling a beautiful black girl from Madasagar who demanded up front payment back at my hotel, and then refused to leave when I deferred. Security called, etc. Etc. Not a pleasant night! Still I do always try to stop in to check the lay of the land. It's a nice change of pace from the Wanchai bars, and I'm ever hopeful I'll get TRULY lucky one of these visits.
What are the places you would recommend in Guangzhou for GFE. I could not even find anything when I was in Guangzhou the last two times. Much help appreciated.
I'm a Guangzhou expat and I made a spur of the moment trip to HK. I arrived in by train at 9 PM and took a taxi to Mong Kok. Walked around looking for a cheap hotel. I saw plenty of hourly ones. I tried one and spoke to the lady in Mandarin. She wanted to sell me the room for two hours, but I told her I want to stay the night. She said I could stay until 12 PM the next day for the price of two hours.
I took a shower and walked around. There were many hostess bars. In fact there was one right next to my hotel. I saw some pink signs on Reclamation street and knew this was a place to monger. I went upstairs, and saw the line up. A young fit girl walks into the room. I'm thinking not bad. Then to my surprise, about 10 other girls follow her. They are old and fat, so I choose the first one. The tout wants the money up front. She was very mechanical, and would not let my body touch hers during missionary. After about 3 minutes, she complains it hurts too much. She offers to give me a HJ, but I give her a stern look and tell her to get out. I was going to ask for another girl, but I didn't want to start any trouble. This guy could be a Triad for all I know.
Having a case of blue balls, I go to the next brothel. I choose a cute girl with large tits. She is a real trooper but still a little mechanical for my tastes. I'm use to the GFE / PSE service I get here in Guangzhou..
What are the places you would recommend in Guangzhou for GFE. I could not even find anything when I was in Guangzhou the last two times. Much help appreciated.Guangzhou is not the place for full service, but you can get the most amazing HJs there that are sometimes better than sex.
For Full service with great GFE, I go to the street walkers, they are hard to find nowadays because the police chase them from their working spots on random nights. So it is hit or miss finding them. The best way to get them, is to find one the rare night they are working, take her back to your place. If you like her, get her number and she will be available anytime you need her.
You can also get them at the night clubs like Kama, or Tru Color. Some of the street walkers I've seen said they will work the club when the police are on the streets. I imagine they charge a higher price in the clubs.
My experience with Gunagzhuou SW is that there is no clock watching, they are friendly, just about everything is on the menu, and they stay for an average of two hours. Usually a second pop is offered. Unlike other cities, these ladies aren't looking for another customer after she's done with you, so they are willing to stay longer.
You should post this in the Guangzhou section.
However when in Guangzhou I only go to the Kama club. Full of Columbian, however other nationalities can also be found. Prices about about RMB 1000 upwards. Can be a lot of fun, however they play a lot of Arabian music which I'm not a fan off.
What are the places you would recommend in Guangzhou for GFE. I could not even find anything when I was in Guangzhou the last two times. Much help appreciated.
I just landed in HK and this will be my 4th trip here. Previously I've used walkups exclusively and I've read a little about the wan chai bars, but just curious, how old are the FLs there? I'm guessing the Sunday DHs are usually 30+? I've also read a report a while back that said 18-25 are extremely rare? Then I'm guessing attractive 18-25's are even rarer?
I prefer girls in their early / mid 20's at most, will I have any luck in these bars or should I stick with walkups / appointments?
I just landed in HK and this will be my 4th trip here. Previously I've used walkups exclusively and I've read a little about the wan chai bars, but just curious, how old are the FLs there? I'm guessing the Sunday DHs are usually 30+? I've also read a report a while back that said 18-25 are extremely rare? Then I'm guessing attractive 18-25's are even rarer?
I prefer girls in their early / mid 20's at most, will I have any luck in these bars or should I stick with walkups / appointments?You can definitely find some hotties in the clubs, some in their 20's, most not. Sundays of course are usually going strong but there are lots that are hard on the eyes. If I were you, I would stick with the 141 ladies and then head over to Lockhart Road clubs in the evening.
Hari's Bar changed management and escorts aren't welcome.
DH on Sunday. Many of the ladies look younger than their age. Many who you think are 25 are actually in their 30's.
So that means 3 WERE on the game?
Most likely they were; that's not the kind of bar where single girls will hang out for a glass of wine after a hard day's work at the office.
One of the women in a group of three was smiling at me, a lot. Since Hari's no longer allows working girls, I figure she was attracted to my handsome, debonair good looks. Or there's an outside chance she's a Scientologist or beer-drinking Mormon who wanted to meet me, convert me and have my children.
Joking, she was probably a hooker who slipped through or a good time party girl looking to make a few bucks outside her regular job. She wasn't attractive enough for me to want to find out.
What are Sunday DHs?The D stands for desperate, not sure about the H though. You may find the solution by reading a few posts back.
The D stands for desperate, not sure about the H though. You may find the solution by reading a few posts back.Tiger is being a bit too subtle for you methinks, although his advice to read back a few posts is still good.
DH refers to domestic helpers of which there are 1000's in HK, primarily from Philippines and Indonesia.
Most contracts allow the girls (women?) a day off, and it's usually Sunday so the filipinas can go to Mass and then meet their friends at those raucous, chicken-shed type of gatherings at a few spots in the city and around Admiralty where they virtually take over a whole city block to picnic, play cards and chatter chatter chatter. Many of the pinays go to the bars instead (after Mass of course lol) and try to supplement their income with a willing foreigner. In most cases they will have a curfew time and may need to leave early to get back to the employer, especially if they are working out in Sha Tin or somewhere distant like that. Not all girls in the bar / discos are looking for a guy, but you will soon work out which are interested and which are there just to dance and have fun.
Sadly for me on my last two visits to Hong Kong I wasn't able to sample any take-out cuisine from the Wanchai bars, so can any of the locals or frequent visitors let me know what current pricing is like? I think the last time I actually had a chance to bring a girl back to my hotel it was 1200 LT, and that was a couple years ago (plus, it was late and it was from New Makati, both of which may have contributed to a lower than average price).
I know some of the stunners in Escape start negotiating at 3 k for ST, but aside from that silliness, what are gents paying for top quality LT from Escape, Hong Kong Cafe, or NM? Is my sense that those 3 bars are generally going to be HIGH to LOW in that order when it comes to pricing?
Many thanks in advance. I managed to finagle a work trip for early next month and I'm really looking forward to it. On my last trip just a few months ago I came down with a bit of a cold so I didn't get any play time at all, just a miserably dejected few hours in Escape nursing my beer and wishing I wasn't sick!
Folks and Seniors,
I would be in HK this evening and was hoping to have a senior / wing man for this evening. It would be my first time in HK and I could definitely do with some help.
You could PM me if anyone would be interested!
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DH on Sunday. Many of the ladies look younger than their age. Many who you think are 25 are actually in their 30's.Sad but true.
Sad but true.What is wrong with an older girl if the looks are up to your expectation? Anyway I value experience and performance over looks.
Sadly for me on my last two visits to Hong Kong I wasn't able to sample any take-out cuisine from the Wanchai bars, so can any of the locals or frequent visitors let me know what current pricing is like? I think the last time I actually had a chance to bring a girl back to my hotel it was 1200 LT, and that was a couple years ago (plus, it was late and it was from New Makati, both of which may have contributed to a lower than average price).
I know some of the stunners in Escape start negotiating at 3 k for ST, but aside from that silliness, what are gents paying for top quality LT from Escape, Hong Kong Cafe, or NM? Is my sense that those 3 bars are generally going to be HIGH to LOW in that order when it comes to pricing?
Many thanks in advance. I managed to finagle a work trip for early next month and I'm really looking forward to it. On my last trip just a few months ago I came down with a bit of a cold so I didn't get any play time at all, just a miserably dejected few hours in Escape nursing my beer and wishing I wasn't sick!Go to the 141 girls all over HK. For that LT 3 k price you can fuck at least 4 nice ones and 2 fat ones. Anyway after 4-6 pops, I want to sleep alone haha.
PC out.
Go to the 141 girls all over HK. For that LT 3 k price you can fuck at least 4 nice ones and 2 fat ones. Anyway after 4-6 pops, I want to sleep alone haha.
PC out.I do. I do both bars and walk-ups. Frankly, I'm a drinker and I love a WG bar scene. It's pretty much my favorite activity so I tend to focus my energies there when I'm in a city where there IS a WG bar scene.
HongKongFan
07-27-15, 16:18
I was planning my first solo trip to HK and wanted some advice from members on the exact time frame and their impact on general Wanchai and 141 action.
I was planning for either the week of October 5th or 19th. The week of the 5th seems hotter and closer to the October 1 holiday. The 19th seems more expensive but further from the holiday and may cooler and more comfortable. Thoughts?
Also, I was looking at staying at the Fleming, Novotel or Wharney. Am I overlooking any?
To scratch that midday itch, I went to the Swatow street joint where I've had success in the past. This time, however, I had a pretty good massage and absolutely nothing else. Not even stray hands anywhere near the little dude.
So, to balance out my disappointment, looked up go 141 and went to 163 Hennessy. Got a pretty good massage, and a very good handie. All was not lost.
-HF.
Bill Arnold
07-29-15, 21:18
Sadly for me on my last two visits to Hong Kong I wasn't able to sample any take-out cuisine from the Wanchai bars, so can any of the locals or frequent visitors let me know what current pricing is like? I think the last time I actually had a chance to bring a girl back to my hotel it was 1200 LT, and that was a couple years ago (plus, it was late and it was from New Makati, both of which may have contributed to a lower than average price).
I know some of the stunners in Escape start negotiating at 3 k for ST, but aside from that silliness, what are gents paying for top quality LT from Escape, Hong Kong Cafe, or NM? Is my sense that those 3 bars are generally going to be HIGH to LOW in that order when it comes to pricing?
Many thanks in advance. I managed to finagle a work trip for early next month and I'm really looking forward to it. On my last trip just a few months ago I came down with a bit of a cold so I didn't get any play time at all, just a miserably dejected few hours in Escape nursing my beer and wishing I wasn't sick!Everyone's version of top quality is different. But I agree the women at Escape do start off much higher because the clientele is probably more the trade show crowd on an expense account rather than expats.
The day and time of time also plays into negotiations. If you are prime time 11 pm-1 am on a week day (Think trade shows in town) $2000-$2500ST easily. This is for a 8-10 girl. A lot of Colombian and Russian women also tip the scales to the higher end.
What is wrong with an older girl if the looks are up to your expectation? Anyway I value experience and performance over looks.IMHO, it is attitude and GGG. The more experienced gals are more mercenary and hardened. Also, if there is an overlap with your like list with their don't like and don't want, it will be no. Period.
Like someone else, I like a guitar that tune good and a firm feeling woman.
Visited Lai chi kok 56-58 a few days ago, shagged a lady on the 5th floor, room 58 c.
Have to say that she's got the biggest tits I've even seen, also firm and soft.
Unfortunately she doesn't provide BBBJ, only CBJ. Sex is good, didn't complain even I changed positions a couple times.
Worth the money.
Face: 7/10 (she actually looks very much like the TVB actress Priscilla Wong).
Body: 10/10
Service: 8/10 everything is good except CBJ only.
I must say that the Africans in HK are a much nicer lot than those in BKK (I don't even look at the ones on Sukhumvit). I found the African gals are generally pleasant to the point that I've hung out with a few in the TST area drinking beers in front of 7/11. I do have the "when in Rome" mentality when it comes to working girls, BUT I am curious as to how much these broads cost. Does anyone have clue?
Traveler1234
08-07-15, 13:25
Was on a 48 HR stop over before flying home last night and office put me next to Fortress Hill MTR, new iClub by regal hotel. Good location as 5 minutes to office. Equally interesting as 5 minute walk to several 141 buildings on Electric Rd and Kings' Rd. So after calling it quits early at 4 pm, decided to do some exploration.
First stop, Kings Rd locations. Forgot name of the 300's number, second was Southern building. Each floor had anywhere from 3-4 rows of rooms, each 4-6 rooms. Rang a few bells, didn't find anything of interest. More of exploratory trip so moved on to 119-125 Electric Rd.
Two floors, each with about 6-10 rooms, knocked on a few, nothing. So walked up a flight and most of the rooms had waiting sign. Business was brisk apparently although didn't see anyone in the halls. 3 F,the, rang the bell, short, slightly plump but young one answered. She just got in the day before, spoke only Mandarin. Had a super round with her, very very GFE but needed some coaxing and patience to get her to relax. Everything except A+ was offered and accepted, nice 1 full hour session for HK380 plus well deserved 100 tip.
Got her wechat, woke her up the next morning, popped over for 9 am session, another full hour before she fell back to sleep and I slipped away, 500 less in my wallet.
Don't think she'll stay long and claims to do only Asians. Rejected a few gweilo from night before, YMMV. Pix on the photo gallery thread.
TempStories
08-09-15, 18:14
I am in city end of August. How reliable are escort ads on CL?
I am in city end of August. How reliable are escort ads on CL?Hi Buddy,
If you will be in town either Wednesday (=Ladies night) or on Sunday (DH day-off) I would rather stroll around in WanChai to see what will be on the menu.
CL is not really reliable. I had more success with DIA so far.
Have fun. I will be back in town in 2. 5 weeks.
Brown Rail
08-10-15, 04:38
Sadly for me on my last two visits to Hong Kong I wasn't able to sample any take-out cuisine from the Wanchai bars, so can any of the locals or frequent visitors let me know what current pricing is like? I think the last time I actually had a chance to bring a girl back to my hotel it was 1200 LT, and that was a couple years ago (plus, it was late and it was from New Makati, both of which may have contributed to a lower than average price).
I know some of the stunners in Escape start negotiating at 3 k for ST, but aside from that silliness, what are gents paying for top quality LT from Escape, Hong Kong Cafe, or NM? Is my sense that those 3 bars are generally going to be HIGH to LOW in that order when it comes to pricing?
Many thanks in advance. I managed to finagle a work trip for early next month and I'm really looking forward to it. On my last trip just a few months ago I came down with a bit of a cold so I didn't get any play time at all, just a miserably dejected few hours in Escape nursing my beer and wishing I wasn't sick!Sorry to hear you were not well.
You know it is really all over the map. It depends on the day of the week, time of night, which bar, your ability to negotiate, local or tourist.
Escape, Joe Bananas and HK café will probably have the most professional and expensive. I would say HKD2,000-5,000 - though some guys don't care and I have heard higher (I have seen guys blow through HKD10,000 at Dragon Club). Makati, Neptune, Insiders, Amazonia, Boracay and mostly HKCafe too are probably HKD1,000-3,000.
These are my estimates for a non-local, in a hurry, convention in town, top girl.
For all others, it would be HKD0 to HKD1,500.
Most of the locals I know don't pay. But they have time, knowledge and are known by the girls.
Some locals pay small amounts when they want something special: specific girl, threesome, etc. That could be HKD300-1,000.
For a particular girl at a particular time, you might have to pay up. For any beautiful girl and with time to cruse, still very cheap.
Good luck on your next trip.
AirlineCrew
08-14-15, 11:08
Hey guys I will be in HK soon.
Of course I RTFF and I saw some reports on the hop yee building. There is not much info on the 141 site and this would apparently be because it's mostly mainland chinese that rotate in and out quite often. So no point on posting adds for the girls.
But I just can't remember what the adres is of the hop yee building and I can't find the reports that posted it.
I found this on the 141 site: 474 - 476 Lockhart Road. I remember that the entrance should be next to a seveneleven, that seems to match this adres on google maps.
Anyone can confirm? And if it's still operational with floors full of girls?
Don't know if I can actually visit it, I've set up freebies every night I'm there, but who knows maybe during the afternoon some day.
Been to the Fuji building once and I had a good experience (if you like this sort of thing).
Thanks for anyone that can help out.
Cheers.
ALC.
Sorry to hear you were not well.
You know it is really all over the map. It depends on the day of the week, time of night, which bar, your ability to negotiate, local or tourist.
Escape, Joe Bananas and HK caf will probably have the most professional and expensive. I would say HKD2,000-5,000 - though some guys don't care and I have heard higher (I have seen guys blow through HKD10,000 at Dragon Club). Makati, Neptune, Insiders, Amazonia, Boracay and mostly HKCafe too are probably HKD1,000-3,000.
These are my estimates for a non-local, in a hurry, convention in town, top girl.
For all others, it would be HKD0 to HKD1,500.
Most of the locals I know don't pay. But they have time, knowledge and are known by the girls.
Some locals pay small amounts when they want something special: specific girl, threesome, etc. That could be HKD300-1,000.
For a particular girl at a particular time, you might have to pay up. For any beautiful girl and with time to cruse, still very cheap.
Good luck on your next trip.Thanks, sounds like pricing hasn't gone up TOO terribly. The last time I had LT I might have paid 1500 vs. the 1200 I originally thought, and that was from NM. 1500 is about what I think is a "fair" price.
At any rate, I'm leaving next week and really looking forward to the trip! I'll hopefully have some adventures to report back.
Erasmus B Dragin
08-15-15, 07:50
..................This post will cover SWs around the Temple St night market area. Even better are the Kowloon walk ups, but I'll save that for another post. OK, it's been awhile but, being a man of my word, I must follow up on this previous post.
A few yrs ago it seemed that hand written signs / posters listing prices for girls of various nationalities could be found in every alleyway and back st in Kowloon (pics attached). Nowadays these low end brothel-type places are seemingly far fewer in number, though some are probably operating more stealthily. It would seem that the signs are clearly in violation of the law against solicitation and, in practice, the establishments themselves are in violation of laws against pimping / pandering, but they've nonetheless been around for decades.
The MO of these places is like this: after walking up one or more flight (s) of stairs, you enter a reception area. Although the signs may list 6-8 nationalities, on my recent visits (within the last 2 yrs) only PRCs and local HK girls have been available promptly, while several times Thais and / or Pinays were available but would involve more waiting (ie. 30 minutes). The girls are then brought in for a line up (either in reception area or in your room). Line ups have varied from 1-4 girls. If you're unmoved by anything in the line up you can go next door or across the st, though in practice, I've found it's better to wait awhile (20-30 min) before hitting another place or you're likely to see the same girl (s) again. In practice I usually am happy with someone in the first line up. A couple of yrs ago I chose the first girl that showed up, not even bothering to wait for a line up as she was so cute.
Over the years I've had fairly consistent results at several places on one block of Reclamation St. I'm not certain, but I think it's the block north of Dundas St. If you walk the area, they're easy to find. This block has 3 doorways on the west side of the st and 2 on the east, but ea doorway may lead up to brothels on more than one floor. In the evenings there may be a hawker sitting out front who will lead / follow you up (for a commission). This doesn't bother me as any effect it has on pricing is nominal.
On my most recent visit I chose the second doorway on the left (walking north from Dundas), one flight up (the same bldg has at least one more place on the 3rd floor; I've visited it previously). I was escorted to a room which was typical of these places; clean, large bed with clean linens, attached shower, various channels of porn on small TV. Within minutes 5 girls were brought in. The first one was dressed in a way to expose her ample bosom, which made such an impression on me that I found it difficult to evaluate the others (in retrospect, had I been a bit less gobsmacked I would have chosen another taller, prettier girl). As quickly as the last of the others had exited the room she began undressing, which revealed a rather loose, flabby belly that made me want to kick myself for not taking a bit more time during the lineup. Once she got the bra off, though, I felt it was worth the trade-off offsetting her rather loose midsection was a plump set of full the cups. She then helped me out of my clothes and into the shower, where she was quite thorough at soaping & scrubbing me down. Then onto the bed and down to business. After maybe 5 min of uncovered (& competent) BJ, I produced my own cap which she installed before climbing on top. Then came the weird part; as she squatted on top, I latched onto her udders. As she bounced up and down I gradually became aware of a faint warm, slightly sweet taste. I pulled her tit out of my mouth to check it out and realized that she was lactating. Of course, I should have suspected it from the beginning; full, plump breast, puffy nipples and obvious (in retrospect) stretch marks. She confirmed that her baby was 5 months old and she had been nursing right up until her departure from her hometown in Guangdong earlier that morning (this was around 10 pm at night). Overall I give her a 7/10 for looks (pretty face, thin but with droopy belly & plump melons) and an 8/10 for service / attitude (very much into it, accommodating and unrushed. No need for lube, she got quite wet while doing the BJ).
As for the damage, I think it was HK $ 400 all in (prices in the doorway do not include the room charge), which buys you an hour. If you want 2 pops you should offer the girl a little extra; in my experience they're all happy to accommodate.
For some reason these places don't get much coverage on this board, though IMHO they offer excellent value compared to many options and better service than the typical 141 session. I would be interested in hearing other's impressions of these walk ups on Reclamation & Shanghai Streets, Mongkok.
OK, it's been awhile but, being a man of my word, I must follow up on this previous post.
A few yrs ago it seemed that hand written signs / posters listing prices for girls of various nationalities could be found in every alleyway and back st in Kowloon (pics attached). Nowadays these low end brothel-type places are seemingly far fewer in number, though some are probably operating more stealthily. It would seem that the signs are clearly in violation of the law against solicitation and, in practice, the establishments themselves are in violation of laws against pimping / pandering, but they've nonetheless been around for decades.
The MO of these places is like this: after walking up one or more flight (s) of stairs, you enter a reception area. Although the signs may list 6-8 nationalities, on my recent visits (within the last 2 yrs) only PRCs and local HK girls have been available promptly, while several times Thais and / or Pinays were available but would involve more waiting (ie. 30 minutes). The girls are then brought in for a line up (either in reception area or in your room). Line ups have varied from 1-4 girls. If you're unmoved by anything in the line up you can go next door or across the st, though in practice, I've found it's better to wait awhile (20-30 min) before hitting another place or you're likely to see the same girl (s) again. In practice I usually am happy with someone in the first line up. A couple of yrs ago I chose the first girl that showed up, not even bothering to wait for a line up as she was so cute.
Over the years I've had fairly consistent results at several places on one block of Reclamation St. I'm not certain, but I think it's the block north of Dundas St. If you walk the area, they're easy to find. This block has 3 doorways on the west side of the st and 2 on the east, but ea doorway may lead up to brothels on more than one floor. In the evenings there may be a hawker sitting out front who will lead / follow you up (for a commission). This doesn't bother me as any effect it has on pricing is nominal.
On my most recent visit I chose the second doorway on the left (walking north from Dundas), one flight up (the same bldg has at least one more place on the 3rd floor; I've visited it previously). I was escorted to a room which was typical of these places; clean, large bed with clean linens, attached shower, various channels of porn on small TV. Within minutes 5 girls were brought in. The first one was dressed in a way to expose her ample bosom, which made such an impression on me that I found it difficult to evaluate the others (in retrospect, had I been a bit less gobsmacked I would have chosen another taller, prettier girl). As quickly as the last of the others had exited the room she began undressing, which revealed a rather loose, flabby belly that made me want to kick myself for not taking a bit more time during the lineup. Once she got the bra off, though, I felt it was worth the trade-off offsetting her rather loose midsection was a plump set of full the cups. She then helped me out of my clothes and into the shower, where she was quite thorough at soaping & scrubbing me down. Then onto the bed and down to business. After maybe 5 min of uncovered (& competent) BJ, I produced my own cap which she installed before climbing on top. Then came the weird part; as she squatted on top, I latched onto her udders. As she bounced up and down I gradually became aware of a faint warm, slightly sweet taste. I pulled her tit out of my mouth to check it out and realized that she was lactating. Of course, I should have suspected it from the beginning; full, plump breast, puffy nipples and obvious (in retrospect) stretch marks. She confirmed that her baby was 5 months old and she had been nursing right up until her departure from her hometown in Guangdong earlier that morning (this was around 10 pm at night). Overall I give her a 7/10 for looks (pretty face, thin but with droopy belly & plump melons) and an 8/10 for service / attitude (very much into it, accommodating and unrushed. No need for lube, she got quite wet while doing the BJ).
As for the damage, I think it was HK $ 400 all in (prices in the doorway do not include the room charge), which buys you an hour. If you want 2 pops you should offer the girl a little extra; in my experience they're all happy to accommodate.
For some reason these places don't get much coverage on this board, though IMHO they offer excellent value compared to many options and better service than the typical 141 session. I would be interested in hearing other's impressions of these walk ups on Reclamation & Shanghai Streets, Mongkok.I wandered very drunkenly into one of those type of establishments a bit further north on Portland Street a couple years ago and had probably the best sex I've had in Hong Kong. As you report the girls on offer were all cute, the establishment was clean and accommodating, the price was beyond fair (400 I believe, and no funny stuff like extra charges or room charges, etc.), and the service was outstanding.
I'm also a bit jealous of your lactating girl. That's one of my twisted fetishes that I've not yet been able to satisfy in the flesh! =).
Christian G
08-15-15, 15:52
I would be interested in hearing other's impressions of these walk ups on Reclamation & Shanghai Streets, Mongkok.If you can waiting till December, you will read my impressions about HK after my first trip there.
Erasmus B Dragin
08-16-15, 02:27
You remind me that what I neglected to emphasize, and what makes these places worthwhile, is that the girls are young, (allowing for occasional exceptions) cute and very service oriented. Most are tourists out to finance their trip to HK, a few have been residents. Perhaps my best experience was with a 23 yr old Sichuanese girl working as a sales clerk at a department store on Nathan. She told me she had been doing this infrequently to supplement her modest income as she supported her family back home; a solid 8 in my book, with firm "see" cups, nice flat tummy and round butt. This girl (as are many of them) was much more attractive than anything you are likely to find in WanChai (imo, guys. Don't flame me), and she acted like a long lost GF, enjoying the act (s) every bit as much as I did.
Every time I ask they are happy to share wechat IDs / phone numbers. On one occasion a girl came to my hotel the following day and we stayed in touch (via Weixin) until she married early this year.
As for the milk thing, I have to admit it added something different to the experience. Once I got over the initial shock, she encouraged me to nurse, guiding her tit with one hand into my mouth. Even after I pulled my mouth away it kept dripping until my chest was covered in milk. After finishing in doggie there were 2 big wet spots under her dripping mams, LOL.
Someone recently commented in this thread about price increases in HK. It's been more than a decade since I first wandered into one of these walk ups. I honestly can't recall the exact prices from any particular visit, but I'm sure it has always been 350 - 400 (on those occasions that I have gotten 2 pops, I've tipped the girl an extra 200), zero inflation over a decade or more. Compared to Beijing, where equivalent service would have been roughly the same price a decade ago, today it's less than 1/2 price.
I wandered very drunkenly into one of those type of establishments a bit further north on Portland Street a couple years ago and had probably the best sex I've had in Hong Kong. As you report the girls on offer were all cute, the establishment was clean and accommodating, the price was beyond fair (400 I believe, and no funny stuff like extra charges or room charges, etc.), and the service was outstanding.
I'm also a bit jealous of your lactating girl. That's one of my twisted fetishes that I've not yet been able to satisfy in the flesh! =).
Mehedi Khan
08-17-15, 03:36
Can someone comment on the 141 Phone Reservations girls? I would like the comfort of browsing girls from my hotel room instead of sharing elevator rides with smelly Asian dudes. BUT, what are the chances of getting the girl in the pictures and getting the services mentioned in the description?
Also, how to communicate with the 141 girls regarding service? Is it wham-bang-thank-you-mam or you can massage etc too? The 141 site lists different "packages" at different rates & time duration. But if the girls don't speak English, how do you communicate which one you want?
Traveler1234
08-18-15, 01:39
If your nose can't distinguish smelly from Asian, you better stay where you are.Well said Tiger.
Mehedi Khan
08-18-15, 03:47
Well said Tiger.LOL. Sorry, it was not meant to be a racial slur. Please read it as "Asian dudes some of whom are smelly".
Hari's Bar changed management and escorts aren't welcome.It's the general manager at Holiday Inn that has changed and she is a lady (first female hotel GM I come across within 30 years of travelling). She has instructed to cleanup Hari's Bar. But now she complains to the F+B director why business in Hari's has dropped more than half. Wonder what planet she is coming from if she as a hotel GM doesn't understand how things work in hotel bars.
Hello,
Can you recommend me some escort agency for outcall meetings?
Many thanks!
I arrived a few days ago, Friday night, and wow. Is it just me or is the scene a lot quieter than a year or two ago? I don't get to HKG often enough, but it definitely seems different this time. New Makati was completely empty all Friday night (but was somewhat busier Saturday, when I was fortunate to meet a lovely Indo girl). And Hong Kong Cafe was better, but still not that many good quality girls (IMO). And it seems even the 5's and 6's are quoting 2 k ST, and not budging from that price. Escape of course is the place to be for the real lookers, but there the prices start at 3 k ST. I had a gorgeous Mongolian / Russian girl come up to me and practically hump my leg while standing there. She was pretty drunk and apparently took a liking to me. But she wouldn't come down below 2500ST, so I deferred. IMO that's just crazy money for pussy and while I don't begrudge anyone a living, I never see any girls from Escape leaving with gentleman friends, so it makes me wonder how they can keep their prices so high. I guess someone must be paying or prices would drop.
I've got a couple more nights in town, hoping for better luck; but thank goodness for the 600 walk-ups and the 400 brothels. They are likely to get my business after I get my fill of beer in Wanchai.
I arrived a few days ago, Friday night, and wow. Is it just me or is the scene a lot quieter than a year or two ago? I don't get to HKG often enough, but it definitely seems different this time. New Makati was completely empty all Friday night (but was somewhat busier Saturday, when I was fortunate to meet a lovely Indo girl). And Hong Kong Cafe was better, but still not that many good quality girls (IMO). And it seems even the 5's and 6's are quoting 2 k ST, and not budging from that price. Escape of course is the place to be for the real lookers, but there the prices start at 3 k ST. I had a gorgeous Mongolian / Russian girl come up to me and practically hump my leg while standing there. She was pretty drunk and apparently took a liking to me. But she wouldn't come down below 2500ST, so I deferred. IMO that's just crazy money for pussy and while I don't begrudge anyone a living, I never see any girls from Escape leaving with gentleman friends, so it makes me wonder how they can keep their prices so high. .Well done not to entertain these ridiculous prices and to stay firm. Hopefully more of us will do the same as you did and not let the little brain take over the thinking and surrender to these surreal prices (for HK standards). It's us who control the demand and thus the prices.
Continuing my researches into expensive venues in TST (see Daily Spa, Coral Spa etc), I visited Luxury Spa (details on the one-four-one web site that Jackson does not allow us to name). The web site made it look interesting, and I became curious about it. Booking by SMS message was easy enough, despite a little language barrier that required a couple of questions to be repeated.
The location isn't so good, as it involves an irascible doorman who kept shouting at me in Cantonese. I didn't understand a word of it and ignored him, but it's not exactly an inconspicuous way to enter a building. But once in the "spa", it's very pleasant. Spa isn't really the right word. It's a small apartment that contains a single room that includes a double bed (in ludicrous Disney Louis Quinze styling), a little shower room, and a gigantic jacuzzi tub.
Only one girl was there; no choice, no mamasan, just one girl. Luckily she was lovely, young, slim and pretty, and called herself Celia. She helped me undress, and then joined me in the shower for a bit of a scrub.
I read a write-up of this place that said the girl then joins one in the jacuzzi for some pre-penetration fun. Celia didn't do that. She had me straight from the shower to the bed, and went straight into the action. This wasn't bad at all, apart from CBJ, and she was happy to accept fingers, DATY, and eventually a good session in a variety of positions, ending in mish. Nothing to complain about.
Then she led me to the tub, and I got in and relaxed. She just sat there next to the tub and watched me. I asked if she was getting in, and she said no. This was extremely uncomfortable. Relaxing in a jacuzzi with a lovely naked girl leaning on you would be heaven. TRYING to relax while the lovely naked girl sits nearby looking bored is exceptionally hard. I gave it five minutes and then gave up, got out, dried myself and got ready to leave. Big black mark there; they are not using their resources well at all.
Total cost HK $2,000, for an hour, which is pretty poor value for money, even given the high quality of the girl's physical attributes and her overall nice attitude.
Also there's no massage here.
Not likely to return; and that's why I'm doing a field report. Taking one for the team is no use if you don't write it down!
FreebieFan
08-25-15, 07:53
It's the general manager at Holiday Inn that has changed and she is a lady (first female hotel GM I come across within 30 years of travelling). She has instructed to cleanup Hari's Bar. But now she complains to the F+B director why business in Hari's has dropped more than half. Wonder what planet she is coming from if she as a hotel GM doesn't understand how things work in hotel bars.There are many female general managers out there. The head of Raffles / Swissotel is / a very formidable singaporean lady. Owner of Mulia in Jakarta is a formidable Indonesian lady. Four Seasons, Raffles, Hilton, Hyatt, Sheraton etc all have a successful rosta of female general managers. Many of them have all worked in less senior positions so all know where a bars money comes from.
There are many female general managers out there. The head of Raffles / Swissotel is / a very formidable singaporean lady. Owner of Mulia in Jakarta is a formidable Indonesian lady. Four Seasons, Raffles, Hilton, Hyatt, Sheraton etc all have a successful rosta of female general managers. Many of them have all worked in less senior positions so all know where a bars money comes from.I may swing by Hari's tonight; it's my last night in town and I've got to get up relatively early for my flight home tomorrow, so I think I'd best avoid Wanchai. Will report back if I make it.
Agree with Jy's post. The prices quoted are about right. Have posted for about a year that prices have gone up in the Wanchai Bar areas. Had a friend re-enter the industry after time away and the prices she wanted to charge in Wanchai bars was similar to JY's post.
There is always a different rate for a visitor and a local. Locals always have an advantage in this area.
Prices go up all the time for any service / goods. Sometimes its like guys wish they were in 1975 and not 2015.
Agree with Jy's post. The prices quoted are about right. Have posted for about a year that prices have gone up in the Wanchai Bar areas. Had a friend re-enter the industry after time away and the prices she wanted to charge in Wanchai bars was similar to JY's post.
There is always a different rate for a visitor and a local. Locals always have an advantage in this area.
Prices go up all the time for any service / goods. Sometimes its like guys wish they were in 1975 and not 2015.Indeed, it just seems like a lot of money for Hong Kong; I expect those prices in Singapore at Brix, but it seems the inflation here has hit pretty quickly. I'm relatively quite new to the game, having made my first foray into the HKG scene maybe 3 years ago - 4 at most. I'm pretty sure 1200 was the going LT rate back then. And I don't really understand how the prices have gone up so much here, since there are so many bars and so many lovelies packing in each one night after night. But. Who knows!
Another question for you. What's up with New Makati? It was absolutely dead on Friday, and only slightly crowded on Saturday. On past trips it's been jam packed every night I've visited. It still remains my favorite venue, as I seem to have taken a fancy to your countrywomen and they're usually there vs. Other clubs! =).
I will not be paying these prices, methinks I will stick to 141 girls, Temple St and surround walk ups, K pressure, Mongkok walk-ups, I will be in Wanchai just for beers and dance. Also Macau side trips.
I arrived a few days ago, Friday night, and wow. Is it just me or is the scene a lot quieter than a year or two ago? I don't get to HKG often enough, but it definitely seems different this time. New Makati was completely empty all Friday night (but was somewhat busier Saturday, when I was fortunate to meet a lovely Indo girl). And Hong Kong Cafe was better, but still not that many good quality girls (IMO). And it seems even the 5's and 6's are quoting 2 k ST, and not budging from that price. Escape of course is the place to be for the real lookers, but there the prices start at 3 k ST. I had a gorgeous Mongolian / Russian girl come up to me and practically hump my leg while standing there. She was pretty drunk and apparently took a liking to me. But she wouldn't come down below 2500ST, so I deferred. IMO that's just crazy money for pussy and while I don't begrudge anyone a living, I never see any girls from Escape leaving with gentleman friends, so it makes me wonder how they can keep their prices so high. I guess someone must be paying or prices would drop.
I've got a couple more nights in town, hoping for better luck; but thank goodness for the 600 walk-ups and the 400 brothels. They are likely to get my business after I get my fill of beer in Wanchai.
Indeed, it just seems like a lot of money for Hong Kong; I expect those prices in Singapore at Brix, but it seems the inflation here has hit pretty quickly. I'm relatively quite new to the game, having made my first foray into the HKG scene maybe 3 years ago - 4 at most. I'm pretty sure 1200 was the going LT rate back then. And I don't really understand how the prices have gone up so much here, since there are so many bars and so many lovelies packing in each one night after night. But. Who knows!
Another question for you. What's up with New Makati? It was absolutely dead on Friday, and only slightly crowded on Saturday. On past trips it's been jam packed every night I've visited. It still remains my favorite venue, as I seem to have taken a fancy to your countrywomen and they're usually there vs. Other clubs! =).HK prices and Singapore prices have always been similar. That's why a number of Singapore based escorts travel to HK and vice versa. Hk prices have gone up a little in Wanchai, but there hasn't been a dramatic increase. Long term prices? It depends on your definition. Some guys take a girl at at 5 am and the girl is gone by 9 am or 10 am. And guys call that long term. Other gents consider long time to be a 12 hour booking.
Makati. Started to lose business 18 months ago when the Indo overstay / refugee ladies had to leave HK. Then with the unfortunate events of September 14 business dropped off even more. Business at makati is slowly improving but it still only 50% of two years ago. Also more Indo ladies are working online instead of going to bars.
JackTheLad2
08-26-15, 21:32
Another question for you. What's up with New Makati? It was absolutely dead on Friday, and only slightly crowded on Saturday. On past trips it's been jam packed every night I've visited. It still remains my favorite venue, as I seem to have taken a fancy to your countrywomen and they're usually there vs. Other clubs! =).NM was always a favourite of mine as well. Frequented by DH's who were more than happy to keep you happy and for very little financial return as I have reported often in the past. The DH price norm was in the region of $500, gratefully received. Always presented and seen as a "gift".
I'm glad I have a few DH phone numbers that I can still use for my next visit coming up, but I am aware the price has gone up slightly. I have a feeling that the NM venue suffered following on the murder last year and it seemed to me that the DH's were frequenting some of the other bars more often. At least many I spoke to in other bars purported to be a DH, maybe to save face of course.
It's still a great place to monger, but supply / demand always seems to be a factor as well. I recollect breaking the bank earlier in the year in Escape and paying $2000 - but she was worth it! Hope I don't have to repeat too often.
Agree with Jy's post. The prices quoted are about right. Have posted for about a year that prices have gone up in the Wanchai Bar areas. Had a friend re-enter the industry after time away and the prices she wanted to charge in Wanchai bars was similar to JY's post.
There is always a different rate for a visitor and a local. Locals always have an advantage in this area.
Prices go up all the time for any service / goods. Sometimes its like guys wish they were in 1975 and not 2015.Hmmm. A commodity that consistently increases in price, easy access and entry, and recession proof. Need more at these times. LOL.
I arrived a few days ago, Friday night, and wow. Is it just me or is the scene a lot quieter than a year or two ago? I don't get to HKG often enough, but it definitely seems different this time. New Makati was completely empty all Friday night (but was somewhat busier Saturday, when I was fortunate to meet a lovely Indo girl). And Hong Kong Cafe was better, but still not that many good quality girls (IMO). And it seems even the 5's and 6's are quoting 2 k ST, and not budging from that price. Escape of course is the place to be for the real lookers, but there the prices start at 3 k ST. I had a gorgeous Mongolian / Russian girl come up to me and practically hump my leg while standing there. She was pretty drunk and apparently took a liking to me. But she wouldn't come down below 2500ST, so I deferred. IMO that's just crazy money for pussy and while I don't begrudge anyone a living, I never see any girls from Escape leaving with gentleman friends, so it makes me wonder how they can keep their prices so high. I guess someone must be paying or prices would drop.
I've got a couple more nights in town, hoping for better luck; but thank goodness for the 600 walk-ups and the 400 brothels. They are likely to get my business after I get my fill of beer in Wanchai.Agreed! Although a Mongolian / Russian does sound delicious, $2500 is way too much. The walk up / brothel scene in Kowloon is a no brainier IMO. About 10 days ago I had a cute mainland gal at a Soy street brothel for just $380, hell I could've taken all 5 of the girls they showed and still not racked up a bill for $2500!
Mainland Chinese prostitute stabbed to death in frenzied brothel attack had only been in Hong Kong 24 hours.
http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-crime/article/1852647/mainland-chinese-prostitute-45-chopped-death-brutal-hong
PUBLISHED: Wednesday, 26 August, 2015,9:30 am.
UPDATED: Thursday, 27 August, 2015,10:12 am.
News›Hong Kong›Law & Crime.
CRIME.
Clifford Lo.
A mainland prostitute was allegedly killed in a frenzied knife attack by her client in a Yau Ma Tei brothel on Wednesday, less than 24 hours after arriving in the city.
The 20-year-old suspect is accused of having sex with another mainland prostitute next door before stabbing the 45-year-old woman. He allegedly fled the brothel in his underpants and jumped into the sea in an apparent suicide attempt.
A passerby called police and the man was arrested on the Kwun Tong promenade after swimming ashore.
"he was wearing underpants and a cloth bag was also wrapped around his waist at the time of the arrest," a police source said.
It is understood he found the bag after running out of the flat, and jumped into a taxi that took him to Kwun Tong. On Wednesday night, police were questioning the man, a new mainland immigrant.
The killing happened in a second-floor subdivided flat in Reclamation Street at about 3. 45 am. Police said the motive remained unknown. The victim. Li Jianfeng. Suffered multiple stab wounds, and a bloodstained knife was found at the scene.
"Initial examination showed she suffered more than 20 stab wounds to the neck and chest," said Superintendent Calvin Mohammed, acting assistant Yau Tsim district commander (crime). He said the suspect was believed to be a customer who went to the flat to buy sex.
"A woman heard the victim screaming and went to check. She found a man running out from the flat," the source said.
Li was found unconscious on the floor inside the flat. She was taken to Kwong Wah Hospital in Yau Ma Tei, where she was declared dead at 4. 18 am.
Li, holder of a two-way permit allowing travel from the mainland to Hong Kong and Macau, came to Hong Kong on Tuesday. The woman who found the body is a friend and also from the mainland. It is understood she alerted a male brothel-keeper, who called police.
Another police source said many subdivided flats in Yau Ma Tei, Tsim Sha Shui and Mong Kok were used as brothels for mainland prostitutes. "Each pays about HK $350 a day to rent a subdivided flat for the purpose of prostitution during their seven-day visit," he said. "They solicit clients on the street and offer sex services in such flats, which are used as their accommodation. ".
Immigration figures show that 2,502 sex workers, mostly from the mainland, were arrested in the first seven months of this year. A total of 2,685 were nabbed in the same period last year.
Police figures show there were 11 reports of homicide in the first six months of the year, compared with 13 in the same period last year. There were two reports of homicide in July and this month.
I will not be paying these prices, methinks I will stick to 141 girls, Temple St and surround walk ups, K pressure, Mongkok walk-ups, I will be in Wanchai just for beers and dance. Also Macau side trips.Your going to pay way more in Macau. Only cheap ones I had in Macau are the horney Viet Massage girl that comes over after shift, 141 Macau gals at MetroPark, Casa Real and other mid range hotels for 700-800 mop for 1 HR maybe or more like one pop and done.
The cheaper ones are definitely in Mongkok and surrounding areas.
PC out.
... Need more at these times. LOL.Wow -- posts by Chantik, Jack the Lad 2 and Boarer, and all in row at that. Seems almost like good times. And yet the news makes it seem like HK will be a quick stopover (an escape from SexPrisonUSA) on the way to BKK, or AC or Jakarta / Bali, a side dish.
And not much in the way of the full meal, if even Wan Chai is lacking in talent.
Agreed! Although a Mongolian / Russian does sound delicious, $2500 is way too much. The walk up / brothel scene in Kowloon is a no brainier IMO. About 10 days ago I had a cute mainland gal at a Soy street brothel for just $380, hell I could've taken all 5 of the girls they showed and still not racked up a bill for $2500!For sure, so much talent and opportunity there. I had a (relatively) early flight home to the US on my departure date, so the night before rather than go back to Wan Chai I took a walk up to a place on Shanghai Street and had a lovely time. I was turned away by the first door I knocked on (which was a first for me at a walkup), I declined the 2nd, but the 3rd time was the charm. Completely lovely little spinner who was enthusiastic and wonderful, all for 400 (plus 50 tip because I liked her so much!)
Agreed! Although a Mongolian / Russian does sound delicious, $2500 is way too much. The walk up / brothel scene in Kowloon is a no brainier IMO. About 10 days ago I had a cute mainland gal at a Soy street brothel for just $380, hell I could've taken all 5 of the girls they showed and still not racked up a bill for $2500!It makes you think, 141 girls or walk-ups around Mongkok, or K pressure etc. 2500 for a short time Wanchai girl, that's 6 separate sessions with other girls, lets just say only wanted to pay 2500 in one week, you could guarantee the excitement of one shag a day almost for that each day for pretty much a week, then sit there happily in Wanchai drinking beer afterwards and listening to the music. I have done just that, even told a couple of girls I had done that, they ask how much, I tell them in the past, they get annoyed with me, so what, drop your price then. I always feel quite special "beating the market". I am smug with that knowledge. The market I always think seems somewhat fixed in Wanchai anyway, almost that they will not undercut each other. That's fine but the 5 or 6's end up with no business and only on a special occasion is a 7 plus taken away, unfair on all the girls, I am sure in the past I would see many guys leaving continually with girls, now just on occasion I see a takeout. Even that may be a with wife or girlfriend.
Then you have the issue that they say long time, you get to the hotel, I tell them theres half now, theo ther half in the morning, so the Viet girl couple of years ago gets annoyed, she was a looker, maybe 8, so she then gives me half hour, a decent shag, but then pissed off saying she was going to the Neptune to find another. Oh nice thank you. Then she slammed the door. That just proved my point, I always pay half in the morn, other half, also I was suspect she was trying to get me to have a drink, somewhat forcefully, strange that, probably to knock me out with something then nick my Rolex and cash perhaps. Little did she know they were already in the safe.
Anyway these games are played with this long time short time issue, whether they will look after you till morning etc, go for the one hour girls in Mongkok and places, can get guaranteed sex without all that hassle. There are benefits. But I do like Wanchai cannot beat the music, the dance, the drinks, the atmosphere, going from place to place in a circle people watching, getting drunk within reason, love all that, would not miss it for the world. Sadly apart from occasional, I push most of my financial investment in that particular working girl market elsewhere recently. Usually to Kowloon or 141's all over.
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Most of the locals I know don't pay. But they have time, knowledge and are known by the girls.
Some locals pay small amounts when they want something special: specific girl, threesome, etc. That could be HKD300-1,000.
For a particular girl at a particular time, you might have to pay up. For any beautiful girl and with time to cruse, still very cheap.
Good luck on your next trip.Why would girls go with locals without some consideration? How does time fix this? I guess you're suggesting some of the pro girls will take a liking to the guys and take up more of a FB relationship? Or do you mean locals have more time to work on the non-pros?
AirlineCrew
09-03-15, 10:14
Gents,
So the first time I did p4 p in HK I did not write a TR, sorry about that, it was just after I did a report in the Nairobi section where I was ridiculed and honed away just because I was apparently overpaying the girl. I did not feel like reporting again for quite awhile. Eventhough the HK section had nothing to do with it of course.
Back then I went to the Fuji building and had a great experience with a chubby middle aged Vietnamese Girl named Candy. Was a lot of fun, so this time I wanted to try another place and see what happens.
First day in HK I met up with a DH from the philipinnes, actually my first pinay that I ever did. I went to manila many times before I ventured into the p4 p world and everything started there in the hotel spa where the massage lady did something to me that I had only heard of before. I was quite green.
I'm not in HK a lot, over the past years I've visisted maybe 4 times? So it's not really worth my time keeping up relations with girls like I do in other places. And this shows in the quality of my freebies that I manage to date. In other countries I'm dating models, cabincrew (which I realise is much easier if you are working in aviation yourself) but this time I had a short, a little chubby 25 y / o mom of 2 with a pretty face from borocay. Never fucked another man besides her lowlife husband, never did a BJ, never been licked herself, never did any positions and her last time was 3 years ago. Now I could have gone p4 p, but I'm on an extreme low budget at this moment. So what the heck. I had some good stuff on the way later. Met her on tagged and chatted a bit, did not really see her as a prospect but after she responded really well to one of my sex invite questions I thought why not. (girls I usually see as backup I pretty much ask right away if they want to meet for fun) When I met her she was very shy and nervous. Am I the only one that thinks pinay girls have a weird leg to upperbody ratio? Like their legs are just a little shorter then other asian girls. Maybe it's just this girl or maybe it's the way she was dressed but i really noticed it right when i saw her.
Did her 2 times, before I fell asleep and one more after I woke up again, all bareback no problem as long as I was absolutely 100% postively sure she would not get pregnant. Since I'm sterile that wouldn't be a problem. While I was sleeping she would just lay there and read her book. Saying she liked looking at me while I slept and I snored a little. LOL She also attempted a BJ on me, which was fun, mostly she giggled a lot and it was just great seeing her make one of her wishes come true. Gave her a good orgasm too by licking her and she was truly greatful.
Next day she texts me that she had a great time but her clit was swollen en her pussy felt sore and she had musclepains from spreading her legs so far. LOL guess she did have a good time, as did I. But sadly no repeats although she wants that badly.
DAY 2.
I'm not feeling that great, just a bad night and lots of jetlag. Normally I handle it well but this time I could not get myself out of bed. I had a meeting setup with another pinay DH that morning better body but not such a great face. Getting one on Monday during the day is hard since most have to start work again, but her boss was away on vacation so she had all the time in the world. I wasn't that sad to cancel on her and sleep. She was a little bummed out but did not get too much drama. Then I contacted my best and last girl to see if we were still on for tonight. Local office girl, sexy slim body, long legs and OK face. Met her on craigslist. Now I know most guys here on ISG don't consider CL as a viable option, and I agree it's full with gays and hookers but I have had some great meetups from CL. It's all about how you present yourself in your advertisements. I use it a lot and apparently so do quite a bit of married bored women cause it's quite anonymous, they don't have to register or make a profile like on tagged or badoo etc. Still I wish CL would remove the flag option, cause everytime I put: "Married or attached ladies are welcome" I get flagged for removal by some zealots that see this as too sinnful even for CL. Jees.
Back on topic: she texts back that she is not feeling well, getting a cold etc. Well that sucks. Guess that door swings both ways. She probably has found another hot guy to bang, or maybe she is truly under the weather but she wants to keep in touch until next time. Doubt I'll be back in time to hold her interest, we will see.
So now I'm free to spend my budget money intended to wine and dine these ladies for a p4 p hookup. I had about 700 to spend total. I did lookup the Hop Yee building but a last minute hotel change messed that up. I could have easily gone there on foot from wanchai but I chose another venue to visit. 10 minutes away on foot was 115 Queen's road, you can look up the exact location on the 141 site. (my GPS app puts it at: 22.2757676, 114.1705297) It has 4 floors with about 5 rooms each. Started knocking on doors but quite a few stayed closed, don't know if it was because I'm white but it happens a lot, happend to me last time in the Fuji builiding too. So I work my way down to 3rd floor. The room in the back said Didi. Pretty pics on the door but cleary those were in her younger days (as most of the time) It said good blowjob on the door. She is a chubby mainland chinese from Shenzen (I think) spoke basic english.
She is cuddly and touching me all over through my pants, bit giggly too, just good fun. We get undressed and I help her and she helps me. Finger her a bit through her panties and she is wet. (I like to think this is not leftover from the last guy LOL) She has a great rack for an asian girl but also probably because she is chubby. Trimmed pussy. Onwards to the shower, which as always is just the toilet. Soaps me up and starts a nice back and shoulder rub. Did not ask for it but enjoyed it a lot and my back is full with knots, she clearly noticed it and spends quite a time kneading those away. I'm actually considering going for the massage option as well. I dry off with a dry decent sized towel. And she has a closet full of clean towels so I like to think every John gets a fresh one. Then I see her pricelist and prices are steep considering the other girls on 141 at this location. FS is at 600 while massage only is at 500. Hmmm guess the massage is off the table did not try to negotiate since I hoped FS would be under 500 like with the other ladies, then I would have tried 600 for massage and FS. I want to keep 100 for dinner later. So FS only it is. After payment she starts a cathbath on me which I like. I finger her, and she starts to get wet again. She wants to give me a CBJ but instead I ask her if I can lick her. She smiles and says yes to my surprise. I put her on her back and suck her nipples and work my way down. Start licking her pussy and she starts to moan loudly. I know guys outside would have heard that. This is no fake moaning like I've experienced a lot with other p4 p girls and when she cums she lifts her lower half violently of the bed, almost ramming her pelvic bone up my nose. She is out of breath and curls up in a fetal position. So I ask for the condom that she still holds in her hand and she just half tosses it to me LOL. I dom up and actually have to roll her on her back again and pry her legs apart. She is not unwilling or anything just out of breath hahaha. I enter her easy, no lube needed since she is really wet. Towel has a nice wet spot (I do hope she changed that for the next guy, sorry man if she didn't) I just go all out, she is not working with or against me, just laying there still breathing heavily, I feel her heartbeat against my chest. And easilly I just blow my load. She has regained some of her senses and stops me from taking of the condom myself and gets some tissues and helps me. Clothes on and I say goodbye. The next John is already outside the door. He actually jumps when he sees this 6. 2 foot guy come out the door. I look back at the door and I still see her eyes look back at me and a big smile and hear her say: bye before she slams the door in the poor guys face. I see him ring the bell but I don't wait to see if she opens again. I like to think she needs to sit down and catch her breath but that's just ego and vanity on my part LOL.
Name: Didi.
Body: 6, big boobs but chubby (really my limit).
Attitude: 8, really nice girl, made me feel welcome and gave me massage in the shower.
Blowjob: Great, it says so on the door and since I did not experience it I just believe the sign.
Damage: 600 HK dollars.
English: 6.
WIR: no, not because of her but because there is still so much out there and before I'm in HK again she has probably moved away already.
Got a lot of flak from one of my coworkers on the trip home, she saw me with the pinay girl on the first day. Shit I need to be more careful. Of course I denied I was with anyone but of course women will be women (and the fact that she is right) she did not believe me, I might have made her doubt a little and I hope it does not bite me in the ass somewhere in the future. (with my luck that can always happen. For instance what are the chances of meeting a girl on tinder that has a seat booked on the flight that I have to work on? I don't know but it happend to me, so all bets are off) I always try to look like I'm alone and the girls follow me meekly to my room or back outside but as much as you try to make them understand that it's important that it looks like we don't know eachother it just surprises me what these girls do when I run into a coworker on my way through the lobby. They will stand right next to you and wait for you to finish your conversation while I told them before that when this happens to just wait outside for me, or at the elevator or go straight up to my room (if they have a key) Or when you ask them to wait 2 minutes and then follow me in and I'm waiting and waiting and I text what's keeping them and they text: I thought you did not want me to come inside. AAARGH wish I could take them to another hotel but that cuts into my budget again while I have access to a great 5 star hotel anyways. Just wish these girls would understand better sometimes.
Cheers.
ALC.
1st one was on Sai Yee Choi in Mongkok. Very pretty, natural be cups with hard nipples great for pinching which she loved. Milfy nympho, fcuked her 15 ways to Sunday. 2nd time was BBFS CIP which I loved hehe.
2nd one was from earlier this year I met in YMT, another BBBJ, fucked her for 30-40 minutes 17 ways to Sunday and I was sweating my ass off LOL. Great tits and smooth ass in her 40's but no babies and nice petite body. She is a freak if the chemistry is right. Both were 400 hkd and I told them next time they are tipping me. They both agreed haha.
PC out.
Brown Rail
09-09-15, 08:58
Why would girls go with locals without some consideration? How does time fix this? I guess you're suggesting some of the pro girls will take a liking to the guys and take up more of a FB relationship? Or do you mean locals have more time to work on the non-pros?Hi Dirk, that is kind of a funny question. Most people don't look for payment for intimacy. Turning the question around, why do some women look for payment? It is because in that case they are having sex primarily to make money. It is because the guy is not mate material for one reason or another (e. G, he is not attractive, not wealthy, he is married, he is a tourist only available for short time or she does not want a BF).
Lots of the girls in the bars are working in HK and just there for fun and relaxation, and hopeful that they will meet a BF – like in the rest of the world. A big difference in HK is that there are 300 k extra women, like this, working here as DHs with little chance for a normal social or sex life. In this way they are unusually needy. They are just human and want comfort and affection like everyone else. They are also financially needy, which is why they are DHs. So if they meet a guy who is at all attractive it is quite easy to have a non-financially driven relationship.
Most who will go out for pay from this group are opportunistic. They would prefer a BF, or at least a friend with privileges. So if you are local it is a great opportunity for you. On the other hand if you are not local while you might not be a potential BF, you might be able to address her financial need, or for a bit of money speed up the process. These girls can go either way.
Of course there are the mostly-pros. They might be live-out DHs who have discovered a second source of income; but they too are probably on the lookout for a BF.
Or they might be over-stayers. These have lost their original jobs and should have found another job to renew their visas, or else left for home. Instead they are illegals in need of a source of income. If they get caught the will be deported. So they need to make as much as quickly as they can.
Or they might be tourists themselves. Girls from Thailand, China, Vietnam, the Philippines and Indonesia come for "holiday" but work in the bars for their visa's 14 day validity. They need to make as much as they can as fast as they can. They have to earn back their airfare, their boarding house and food and still have a profit to send home. They can exit to China or Macau to get an extra 14 days, but HK Immigration will not let them go on for too long, (unlike prior to around 2008 when they could just keep exiting and returning with unlimited new visas – one of the big causes of change in Wan chai). These girls are most in need and pretty much must charge. If they find a BF, he will be on the side.
So when a local guy walks into a room and surveys the women, he organizes them into working and non-working, and then figures out what he wants tonight. Most locals know lots of the girls. Some as friends. Some as GFs. Some as friends with privileges. Rarely would a local buy a bargirl drink, and even rarer pay for sex.
There are exceptions. If a local wants a specific girl, or something special, he might pay. On the other hand if you met a local who always pays, there is probably something undesirable about him. Remember Rurik Jutting? People tell me he, a local, always paid. Just goes to show you.
So if you want a cool game to play, next time you visit HK make up a story that makes you reasonably local. See how much you can score with out pay!
Sorry Dirk, I thought I was going to write a line or two, but got carried away.
Asian Lover Oz
09-09-15, 12:23
Got a lot of flak from one of my coworkers on the trip home, she saw me with the pinay girl on the first day. Shit I need to be more careful.
ALC.Brave man!! Taking girls back to the crew hotel. Must be good at making up excuses when your other crew inevitably catch you out.
Next time you are in Hkg, PM me and we can go exploring. Although you are already quite adventurous going into the 141 places. Well done.
I often visit airline staff in their hotels. They are usually open about their adventures.
Will be back in Hong Kong next week and will be staying at the Holiday Inn. I have read reports that there has been a clamp down on the WGs in Hari's Bar. Does anyone know other spots where these girls might move to. Always loved the scene at Hari's but will need to explore other venues. Hoped to meet a lady from Thailand May (Mai) who I have been with in the past.
Mehedi Khan
09-11-15, 17:05
I often visit airline staff in their hotels. They are usually open about their adventures.Hi Chantik!
Which hotels do you suggest in HK to pickup Airline staff?
Hi Chantik!
Which hotels do you suggest in HK to pickup Airline staff?Ha Ha Ha. The airline pay me for naughty times. And pilots are very naughty.
So when a local guy walks into a room and surveys the women, he organizes them into working and non-working, and then figures out what he wants tonight. Most locals know lots of the girls. Some as friends. Some as GFs. Some as friends with privileges. Rarely would a local buy a bargirl drink, and even rarer pay for sex.
There are exceptions. If a local wants a specific girl, or something special, he might pay. On the other hand if you met a local who always pays, there is probably something undesirable about him. Remember Rurik Jutting? People tell me he, a local, always paid. Just goes to show you.
So if you want a cool game to play, next time you visit HK make up a story that makes you reasonably local. See how much you can score with out pay!
Sorry Dirk, I thought I was going to write a line or two, but got carried away.Thanks for the detailed explanation of what this means. I guess bottom line is locals don't *explicitly* pay for sex. But just like any relationship, they pay for it somehow, with dates, with gifts, with time, with drama. Still probably much less than the explicit ST or LT arrangement. I might be wrong, but I would guess a local would still offer 500-1000 HK to one of their FWB or treat them out to a similar amount? If not, and the girl just comes for a f* and then leaves, that is truly interesting but I think a bit unfair for the girl if the guy provides zero friendship / emotional fulfillment to the girl.
Hi Dirk, that is kind of a funny question. Most people don't look for payment for intimacy. Turning the question around, why do some women look for payment? It is because in that case they are having sex primarily to make money. It is because the guy is not mate material for one reason or another (e. G, he is not attractive, not wealthy, he is married, he is a tourist only available for short time or she does not want a BF).
Lots of the girls in the bars are working in HK and just there for fun and relaxation, and hopeful that they will meet a BF like in the rest of the world. A big difference in HK is that there are 300 k extra women, like this, working here as DHs with little chance for a normal social or sex life. In this way they are unusually needy. They are just human and want comfort and affection like everyone else. They are also financially needy, which is why they are DHs. So if they meet a guy who is at all attractive it is quite easy to have a non-financially driven relationship.
Most who will go out for pay from this group are opportunistic. They would prefer a BF, or at least a friend with privileges. So if you are local it is a great opportunity for you. On the other hand if you are not local while you might not be a potential BF, you might be able to address her financial need, or for a bit of money speed up the process. These girls can go either way.
Of course there are the mostly-pros. They might be live-out DHs who have discovered a second source of income; but they too are probably on the lookout for a BF.
Or they might be over-stayers. These have lost their original jobs and should have found another job to renew their visas, or else left for home. Instead they are illegals in need of a source of income. If they get caught the will be deported. So they need to make as much as quickly as they can.
Or they might be tourists themselves. Girls from Thailand, China, Vietnam, the Philippines and Indonesia come for "holiday" but work in the bars for their visa's 14 day validity. They need to make as much as they can as fast as they can. They have to earn back their airfare, their boarding house and food and still have a profit to send home. They can exit to China or Macau to get an extra 14 days, but HK Immigration will not let them go on for too long, (unlike prior to around 2008 when they could just keep exiting and returning with unlimited new visas one of the big causes of change in Wan chai). These girls are most in need and pretty much must charge. If they find a BF, he will be on the side.
So when a local guy walks into a room and surveys the women, he organizes them into working and non-working, and then figures out what he wants tonight. Most locals know lots of the girls. Some as friends. Some as GFs. Some as friends with privileges. Rarely would a local buy a bargirl drink, and even rarer pay for sex.
There are exceptions. If a local wants a specific girl, or something special, he might pay. On the other hand if you met a local who always pays, there is probably something undesirable about him. Remember Rurik Jutting? People tell me he, a local, always paid. Just goes to show you.
So if you want a cool game to play, next time you visit HK make up a story that makes you reasonably local. See how much you can score with out pay!
Sorry Dirk, I thought I was going to write a line or two, but got carried away.And when Brown Rail talks about "locals", he most likely means people who live in HK which can be Chinese from HK as well as foreigners living in HK.
Decided to check out the Wanchai bar scene again since I've only been a couple times before.
Previously only been to Escape really. Other places were dead.
Wanted to see what Hong Kong cafe, but at 1 am on Sat night they were asking $250 HKD entrance (including a drink), which translates to about a $150-170 HKD cover. Went again around 4 pm Sunday and was asked to pay the fee again. Neptune was asking $500HKD... No cover at Escape though. Is this standard?
JackTheLad2
09-13-15, 17:16
Wanted to see what Hong Kong cafe, but at 1 am on Sat night they were asking $250 HKD entrance (including a drink), which translates to about a $150-170 HKD cover. Went again around 4 pm Sunday and was asked to pay the fee again. Neptune was asking $500HKD... No cover at Escape though. Is this standard?Unfortunately some places charge for non-whites to enter. Discriminatory rules / laws don't apply here. This has been well discussed and commented on in the past. If you are non white, then one way to avoid a charge is go in with a girl or with a crowd of guys and you might get away with it.
Never known Neptune 111 to charge however and as for $500, that is obscene. Maybe a new policy for them.
Johnny Rocket
09-14-15, 00:07
Hey guys long time no talk. I've got a girlfriend now and she is fantastic in every way and I'm completely loyal to her so I've suspended the hobby for as long as I can hold on to her. Only thing is I can't keep up with her. I'm still relatively young but she can go 3, 4, 5 times a day and often wants to if we have a whole day free like on weekends. But the pops are not immediate, they're spread over the day, we cuddle and talk a lot or have meals in between or whatever.
Can anyone tell me a reliable source for real (not fake) vitamin V or see or L? In your experience, can it help you go multiple times in a day? I was thinking of taking it after 2 pops to be ready for pops 3 and beyond. Is this a good strategy? Is V or see or L better and why?
Any comments and experiences appreciated.
NorthSouth
09-14-15, 14:57
I'm assuming it's because the trade is legal..... I have read this and other similar statements in the forum. I don't know if those are true. I was in Hong Kong and read an old newspaper article about a vice squad raid in 2 hotels in Kowloon on September 1. They busted up 2 prostitution rings and arrested 24 girls from China along with the two guys who ran the operations. .
I have read this and other similar statements in the forum. I don't know if those are true. I was in Hong Kong and read an old newspaper article about a vice squad raid in 2 hotels in Kowloon on September 1. They busted up 2 prostitution rings and arrested 24 girls from China along with the two guys who ran the operations. .The issue vis-a-vis the girls is lack of visa, overstaying visa, or "working" without a proper visa. The guys they get on procuring / pimping.
Hey guys long time no talk. I've got a girlfriend now and she is fantastic in every way and I'm completely loyal to her so I've suspended the hobby for as long as I can hold on to her. Only thing is I can't keep up with her. I'm still relatively young but she can go 3, 4, 5 times a day and often wants to if we have a whole day free like on weekends. But the pops are not immediate, they're spread over the day, we cuddle and talk a lot or have meals in between or whatever.
Can anyone tell me a reliable source for real (not fake) vitamin V or see or L? In your experience, can it help you go multiple times in a day? I was thinking of taking it after 2 pops to be ready for pops 3 and beyond. Is this a good strategy? Is V or see or L better and why?
Any comments and experiences appreciated.Bought some today at Fanda in Worldwide House in Central. Branded (authentic) was $400 a box of 4. Over the counter, no questions asked. Generic is cheaper. Branded has anti counterfeit stuff on it you can check on Phizer website.
JackTheLad2
09-17-15, 14:48
Can anyone tell me a reliable source for real (not fake) vitamin V or see or L? In your experience, can it help you go multiple times in a day? I was thinking of taking it after 2 pops to be ready for pops 3 and beyond. Is this a good strategy? Is V or see or L better and why?
Any comments and experiences appreciated.Man Sang Dispensary (2 minutes from Times Sq) in Tin Lok Li at the corner of Wan Chai Road sells genuine Viagra.
Hey guys long time no talk. I've got a girlfriend now and she is fantastic in every way and I'm completely loyal to her so I've suspended the hobby for as long as I can hold on to her. Only thing is I can't keep up with her. I'm still relatively young but she can go 3, 4, 5 times a day and often wants to if we have a whole day free like on weekends. But the pops are not immediate, they're spread over the day, we cuddle and talk a lot or have meals in between or whatever.
Can anyone tell me a reliable source for real (not fake) vitamin V or see or L? In your experience, can it help you go multiple times in a day? I was thinking of taking it after 2 pops to be ready for pops 3 and beyond. Is this a good strategy? Is V or see or L better and why?
Any comments and experiences appreciated.Don't use personally but would recommend to check with your doctor first. Read it went generic either this or last summer so there should be good generics out there. Less probability of fake if generic.
Heard it works so well sometimes that a visit to the emergency room is required to relieve the stiffness. LOL
Johnny Rocket
09-17-15, 23:35
Don't use personally but would recommend to check with your doctor first. Read it went generic either this or last summer so there should be good generics out there. Less probability of fake if generic.
Heard it works so well sometimes that a visit to the emergency room is required to relieve the stiffness. LOLThat's not funny! As far as I know they have to make an incision in your dick to drain the blood out. :-O.
Thanks everyone for the replies in sources. If anyone has experience on strategy, using it for multiple pops, when to take it, etc that would also be great.
I doubt you need V. Maybe your GF needs to be considerate. And you don't just have to f. To have fun.
I doubt you need V. Maybe your GF needs to be considerate. And you don't just have to f. To have fun.In my experience, if you are with the right girl, V is not necessary for an almost unlimited number of times. If you are with the wrong girl, V is no use. Furthermore a hard on without fun is pain.
Johnny Rocket
09-19-15, 19:08
I doubt you need V. Maybe your GF needs to be considerate. And you don't just have to f. To have fun.She's being considerate. She's not demanding anything. We have lots of fun apart from fucking! I do appreciate your perspective though.
Johnny Rocket
09-19-15, 19:10
In my experience, if you are with the right girl, V is not necessary for an almost unlimited number of times. If you are with the wrong girl, V is no use. Furthermore a hard on without fun is pain.Unlimited? After 3 it takes more work, even though I have the mental and emotional desire and it's still fun. I'm just looking to reduce the refractory period.
There are basically 2 boosters Tadalafil. Most famous brand is Ci. And Sildenafil used in Vi.
Tadalafil is better for your body when used together with alcohol and the half-life is 17 hours compared to Sildenafil with a half-life of 4 hours.
So T lasts much longer (also called the weekender), but I find S gives a little harder result.
You can buy many no names with 100% the same ingredients and I found this place inhousepharmacy. Vu (same as the. Biz ending, but biz is somehow US based, so they stopped shipping abroad) where you can order them, they do ship everything they have.
On offer without any prescription to Hong Kong (at lest the still did so the beginning of 2015), but it takes about 2 weeks to arrive by mail.
The cost is for Sildenafil tablets for big volumes down to 2. 30 USD / tab and for Tadalafil tabs down to 1. 65 USD / tab for BIG volumes.
Tadalafil can help you go several times a day, but how often you can shoot depends on you.
I enjoy it with a little boost, just makes things much more relaxed and personally I do get more fun out of it compared to without. Unless you have the whole weekend in front of you.
It is best not to take a whole tab, try to just take 1/8 or so.
Enjoy the GF!
Hey guys long time no talk. I've got a girlfriend now and she is fantastic in every way and I'm completely loyal to her so I've suspended the hobby for as long as I can hold on to her. Only thing is I can't keep up with her. I'm still relatively young but she can go 3, 4, 5 times a day and often wants to if we have a whole day free like on weekends. But the pops are not immediate, they're spread over the day, we cuddle and talk a lot or have meals in between or whatever.
Can anyone tell me a reliable source for real (not fake) vitamin V or see or L? In your experience, can it help you go multiple times in a day? I was thinking of taking it after 2 pops to be ready for pops 3 and beyond. Is this a good strategy? Is V or see or L better and why?
Any comments and experiences appreciated.
Hey guys long time no talk. {S N I P} Only thing is I can't keep up with her. I'm still relatively young but she can go 3, 4, 5 times a day and often wants to if we have a whole day free like on weekends. {S N I P}
Any comments and experiences appreciated.WRT your situation, I suggest that you take a 2.5mg Cialis/Tadalafil tab daily, for play on demand (within reason). A daily dosage of either 2.5mg or 5mg is approved by medical practitioners and also minimises any side effects.
The 2.5mg and 5mg Cialis tabs are difficult to find in the typical Rx shops in HK (the other strengths are commonly available). Best bet is to purchase online, or use a tab cutter on the 10mg tabs.
Cheers,
Ikksman
P.S. Note that Viagra/Sildenafil and Cialis/Tadalafil comes in various strengths - 25mg, 50mg, 100mg, and 2.5mg, 5mg, 10mg, 20mg respectively. This was not mentioned by previous posters.
P.P.S. There are a number of other erection boosters in the market, such as Levitra and Spedra.
I've written FRs here before about Daily Spa, and seen other FRs, and it's mostly been positive.
But be aware. They just implemented a "stealth" price increase.
Incall used to be HK $2,000/90 minutes. Cunningly, they haven't changed the price shown. But the web site now says HK $2,000/75 minutes. I guess if you're keen to get through the massage to the action at the end, this won't make much difference for you.Just came across your post. Just FYI the time you spend in the room at daily is totally up to you to organize, I usually get 15 minutes massage first and the rest after to relax. .
SE Asia Joe
09-22-15, 16:25
Hmmmm. Wondering if we are witness to a sea-change in mongering activities in Southern China?
Somebody must have done some kind of SWOT analysis to figure out that compared to China, Hong Kong now is attractive for the legions of high-spending PRC businessmen, politicos and others who now no longer can afford to be seen / perceived as high-spending. The deluxe KTV at Coda plaza have been operating very successfully for years, I guess they must have realized the potential and decided to branch out.
After all, Hong Kong is:
-100% safe. Prostitution per se is totally legal and arrests are based only upon breaches to tourists not being allowed to work. Patrons are usually just told to leave.
-Now value for money compared to the ridiculous prices on the mainland.
-Quality proven the article states locals, Mainlanders and Taiwanese, but I am very sure that any nationality / physical attributes can be provided / sourced from the throngs of providers of all nationalities just a couple streets down.
-Renowned for high service standards as opposed to how things are in China.
http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-crime/article/1859449/62-mainland-chinese-and-taiwanese-prostitutes-arrested-hong.
South China Morning Post
62 mainland Chinese and Taiwanese prostitutes arrested as Hong Kong police raid karaoke bar run by triads
PUBLISHED : Friday, 18 September, 2015, 5:57pm
Sixty-two suspected prostitutes were arrested at a karaoke bar in Hong Kongs red-light district last night in an operation one veteran police officer believed was the biggest bust of its kind the city has seen in recent years.
The women, from mainland China and Taiwan, were held along with five Hongkongers. About HK$300,000 in cash was also seized at the three-storey venue on Lockhart Road in Wan Chai, which was previously used as an elderly home. The bar is next to the former Wan Chai police station.
One police source said the sex ring was controlled by the Sun Yee On triad society and generated more than HK$1 million in turnover per month.
According to police, the karaoke bar had been open for business for more than a year, but intelligence indicated the sex ring started its business there about two months ago.
To attract more clients, the gang brought in Taiwanese women to service them, the source said.
Our investigation showed that (in addition to alcohol charges,) clients were charged up to HK$3,000 each to drink and sing with the women.
He said clients were charged up to HK$10,000 each to take a woman for sex in nearby love hotels.
It is understood the karaoke bar only served regular clients and most of them were businessmen from the mainland..SEAJ
Unlimited? After 3 it takes more work, even though I have the mental and emotional desire and it's still fun. I'm just looking to reduce the refractory period.IMHO, 3 is good and nothing to worry about. I would suggest consulting your doctor. (Be careful as if you follow the advice at the bottom, the problem is between your ears) Or a least get a cheap dildo from locations posted here. I have had many ladies ask for and gladly receive a dildo gift for play with and without me.
I doubt you need V. Maybe your GF needs to be considerate. And you don't just have to f. To have fun.JR, I agree with Chantik. Most women are understanding, at least in front of you, and don't want you prepping for a trip in an ambulance or hearse. I had some funny moments when a girl wants to keep going after my release and keep trying to stuff a deflating little J into herself.
I suggest that you take a 2.5mg Cialis/Tadalafil tab daily, for play on demand
Johnny Rocket
09-22-15, 20:48
WRT your situation, I suggest that you take a 2.5mg Cialis/Tadalafil tab daily, for play on demand (within reason). A daily dosage of either 2.5mg or 5mg is approved by medical practitioners and also minimises any side effects.
The 2.5mg and 5mg Cialis tabs are difficult to find in the typical Rx shops in HK (the other strengths are commonly available). Best bet is to purchase online, or use a tab cutter on the 10mg tabs.
Cheers,
Ikksman
P.S. Note that Viagra/Sildenafil and Cialis/Tadalafil comes in various strengths - 25mg, 50mg, 100mg, and 2.5mg, 5mg, 10mg, 20mg respectively. This was not mentioned by previous posters.
P.P.S. There are a number of other erection boosters in the market, such as Levitra and Spedra.Thanks for your advice. I'm not going to take one daily as on normal days when we are both busy we do it somewhere between 0-2 times and I have no difficulty going once or twice. The potential use of vitamin V would be on completely free days when we decide a whole day indoors would be nice. Especially when the weather is shitty which seems to be most of the time around here lately.
I know this is really a question for a doctor but for a guy who has no problem going 1-2 times and just wants to be able to go later on that day for the 4th or 5th time are we suggesting the small medium or large dose? I'm a fairly big (not really fat) guy if that matters. I think I'll start with the smallest and see what happens. Don't want to get priapism.
Johnny Rocket
09-22-15, 21:00
IMHO, 3 is good and nothing to worry about. I would suggest consulting your doctor. (Be careful as if you follow the advice at the bottom, the problem is between your ears) Or a least get a cheap dildo from locations posted here. I have had many ladies ask for and gladly receive a dildo gift for play with and without me.
JR, I agree with Chantik. Most women are understanding, at least in front of you, and don't want you prepping for a trip in an ambulance or hearse. I had some funny moments when a girl wants to keep going after my release and keep trying to stuff a deflating little J into herself.I'm with you. I think we are sort of making up for lost time as it took nearly half our life expectancy to find each other. She doesn't dig toys. Sex is practically a religious experience for her and she thinks of toys as interfering with the sacred connection between the two of us. I'm not that into toys either so no big loss.
I may not even use the vitamin V I just want it on hand in case of need.
I suppose I am dense but I didn't get your comment about the problem being between my ears if I were to take a Cialis daily.
Met up with Ashley for a two hour appointment at hotel near the airport. Trouble free arrangements with the agency, Escortgirlshk. She arrived at the appointed time and I enjoyed an excellent 2 hour session. Very pleasing and rewarding experience Her english is excellent and sh has a very pleasing personality. 1500 HK $ for the session including taxi fare. Ashley will be leaving to return to Thailand in October.
Well I don't think Freebies are only for locals, you are right on most of the part and also the amount of DH working in Hk, I have been visiting HK and SZ on very regular bases 4 times past year maybe a bit more, I usually stay at wanchai and have been Enjoying a lot of freebies, well to be frank I am a Singaporean Indian guy, and all the chicks I have met they think I am gud looking but that's them. I am just about avg according to me, But what I have done is I spend a gud amount of time chatting, talking with these girls on sites or skype or wechat. I have met 4 girls till now and ended up in bed with all 4 in about an hours time.
All very nice looking girls, but As a gentleman I took them out for lunch / movie / coffee whatever they wanted. I went to ruby's Tuesday with a chick I spent good amout on food but what happened next was worth it.
I am going to be there in Hk again next month and there are 3 chicks wanting to meet me, I will meet 2 atleast.
I am just saying that having been to so many countries the best place to get freebies for me atleast is HK and Lot of DH, nannies, nurses want gud guys to have fun over the weekend and the guy treating them nicely. Non of the chicks who I am still in touch with asked me for money once.
Its a simple case of Demand vs Supply. Treat them nicely and you will be treated the same way.
Hi Dirk, that is kind of a funny question. Most people don't look for payment for intimacy. Turning the question around, why do some women look for payment? It is because in that case they are having sex primarily to make money. It is because the guy is not mate material for one reason or another (e. G, he is not attractive, not wealthy, he is married, he is a tourist only available for short time or she does not want a BF).
Lots of the girls in the bars are working in HK and just there for fun and relaxation, and hopeful that they will meet a BF like in the rest of the world. A big difference in HK is that there are 300 k extra women, like this, working here as DHs with little chance for a normal social or sex life. In this way they are unusually needy. They are just human and want comfort and affection like everyone else. They are also financially needy, which is why they are DHs. So if they meet a guy who is at all attractive it is quite easy to have a non-financially driven relationship.
Most who will go out for pay from this group are opportunistic. They would prefer a BF, or at least a friend with privileges. So if you are local it is a great opportunity for you. On the other hand if you are not local while you might not be a potential BF, you might be able to address her financial need, or for a bit of money speed up the process. These girls can go either way.
Of course there are the mostly-pros. They might be live-out DHs who have discovered a second source of income; but they too are probably on the lookout for a BF.
Or they might be over-stayers. These have lost their original jobs and should have found another job to renew their visas, or else left for home. Instead they are illegals in need of a source of income. If they get caught the will be deported. So they need to make as much as quickly as they can.
Or they might be tourists themselves. Girls from Thailand, China, Vietnam, the Philippines and Indonesia come for "holiday" but work in the bars for their visa's 14 day validity. They need to make as much as they can as fast as they can. They have to earn back their airfare, their boarding house and food and still have a profit to send home. They can exit to China or Macau to get an extra 14 days, but HK Immigration will not let them go on for too long, (unlike prior to around 2008 when they could just keep exiting and returning with unlimited new visas one of the big causes of change in Wan chai). These girls are most in need and pretty much must charge. If they find a BF, he will be on the side.
So when a local guy walks into a room and surveys the women, he organizes them into working and non-working, and then figures out what he wants tonight. Most locals know lots of the girls. Some as friends. Some as GFs. Some as friends with privileges. Rarely would a local buy a bargirl drink, and even rarer pay for sex.
There are exceptions. If a local wants a specific girl, or something special, he might pay. On the other hand if you met a local who always pays, there is probably something undesirable about him. Remember Rurik Jutting? People tell me he, a local, always paid. Just goes to show you.
So if you want a cool game to play, next time you visit HK make up a story that makes you reasonably local. See how much you can score with out pay!
Sorry Dirk, I thought I was going to write a line or two, but got carried away.
Personally, I don't think it would be that hard to get freebies from the DH crowd. All it takes is a little effort. My experience with chicks born and raised in PI are that they are quite easy to please and even easier going. Lets face it though, HK is a fast paced city where the mind set of time is money is prevalent. So who has time for effort?
I think the reason for the high prices is that most of the guys simply don't care.
1. They either work in HK and are making a shit-ton and aren't worried about it.
2. They are on holiday and are there to spend money and, once again, aren't worried about it.
3. A lot of guys don't want to feel like they are fucking a hooker and Wan Chai can offer that, where as the walk ups in Kowloon YOU KNOW you are a nothing more than a punter. I believe this is the one that is most over looked. I come from the belief that no sex is free, its a matter of whether you feel like you are paying for it. Some guys prefer to flirt, take time seducing a broad before he gives her money, LOL.
I suppose I am dense but I didn't get your comment about the problem being between my ears if I were to take a Cialis daily.Wasn't meant to offend. Just saying, get professional advice. It is your life and many men have gone while doing the deed. Not a bad way to go, but make it maybe further down the line.
Non of the chicks who I am still in touch with asked me for money once.
Treat them nicely and you will be treated the same way.IMHO, better to pay (if you can) to underscore the arrangement. No misunderstanding and no tears.
Was in Hongkong recently and went to New Makati in Wanchai. Got a drink and was listening to the band when I was approached by a nice lady. Her artist name was Lili, she came from Indonesia. She was 1 m55 small, slim, A-cups, long black hair. I guess her age was around end 20.
We had a drink, some small talk for around one hour and as I liked her, asked if she would come to my hotel. She accepted and when I asked how much she wanted, she said "you decide how much you want to give me". So we went to my hotel which was just a short walk away.
We took a shower together and hopped onto the bed.
We started with kissing, then I worked on her nipples what she liked a lot. Then it was time for stimulating her clit and fingering her pussy. She got more and more wet.
Then she asked me to lay on my back, gave me a good blowjob, them licking my balls and my asshole. She went further and put her tongue inside my ass. Great feeling.
After some time, she got on top of me, grabbed my cock and put it inside her tight pussy, all bareback. We did not even talk about condom. So she was riding my cock while I worked again her nipples which were very hard. She rode herself to orgasm (or she is a good actress), her pussy juice was running down my cock.
Then I pounded her in missionary before turning her around and doing her doggystyle. What a great feeling to fuck that wet and tight pussy having her small ass in my hands. I could not resist for long and I shot my load deep inside her pussy.
We went to refresh under the shower, got back into bed and fell asleep.
Around 8 AM, I woke her up and we did a second hot round ending with a second pussy creampie.
We showered, she dressed up and before she left she gave me a long kiss. As I was really happy with her performance, I gave her 1500 HKD, which she seemed to make her happy.
Johnny Rocket
09-27-15, 04:35
Wasn't meant to offend. Just saying, get professional advice. It is your life and many men have gone while doing the deed. Not a bad way to go, but make it maybe further down the line.No offense taken at all, I just didn't catch your meaning. Hen you say many have died doing the deed, do you mean because of vitamin V / see / L? Or too much, or too intense? I know it happens but I've never heard of a specific case.
PeterPowers99
09-29-15, 06:06
Was in Hongkong recently and went to New Makati in Wanchai. Got a drink and was listening to the band when I was approached by a nice lady. Her artist name was Lili, she came from Indonesia. She was 1 m55 small, slim, A-cups, long black hair. I guess her age was around end 20.
We had a drink, some small talk for around one hour and as I liked her, asked if she would come to my hotel. She accepted and when I asked how much she wanted, she said "you decide how much you want to give me". So we went to my hotel which was just a short walk away.
We took a shower together and hopped onto the bed.
We started with kissing, then I worked on her nipples what she liked a lot. Then it was time for stimulating her clit and fingering her pussy. She got more and more wet.
Then she asked me to lay on my back, gave me a good blowjob, them licking my balls and my asshole. She went further and put her tongue inside my ass. Great feeling..Great summary of a night's adventure. Wish more punters could provide such an excellent summary of a night on the town. Keep up the good work Tommy Sued. Sound as though you got value for money here.
Decided to check out the Wanchai bar scene again since I've only been a couple times before.
Previously only been to Escape really. Other places were dead.
Wanted to see what Hong Kong cafe, but at 1 am on Sat night they were asking $250 HKD entrance (including a drink), which translates to about a $150-170 HKD cover. Went again around 4 pm Sunday and was asked to pay the fee again. Neptune was asking $500HKD... No cover at Escape though. Is this standard?Indeed, stopped by Neptune this past weekend with my mate (we are 2 Asians), the dude wanted HK $500. I told him "have a nice day".
Brown Rail
09-29-15, 07:21
Well I don't think Freebies are only for locals, you are right on most of the part and also the amount of DH working in Hk, I have been visiting HK and SZ on very regular bases 4 times past year maybe a bit more, I usually stay at wanchai and have been Enjoying a lot of freebies, well to be frank I am a Singaporean Indian guy, and all the chicks I have met they think I am gud looking but that's them. I am just about avg according to me, But what I have done is I spend a gud amount of time chatting, talking with these girls on sites or skype or wechat. I have met 4 girls till now and ended up in bed with all 4 in about an hours time.Yes Kar, I think you have got HK exactly. Make a small effort, threat them like the GF experience you yourself want, and you will be rewarded with a terrific time.
I wish you the best travels here.
Brown Rail
09-29-15, 07:31
IMHO, better to pay (if you can) to underscore the arrangement. No misunderstanding and no tears.I get your point Boarer. You are going to pay regardless. And misunderstandings are best avoided. I guess the question is what is the "arrangement".
If the arrangement is PFP, then yes, of course pay. But HK offers so much more than that. You can go to 141, or pay a working girl in Makati, HK Cafe, Escape, Neptune III, etc. There the commercial arrangement is clear.
But giving money to girls who did not expect it is a pleasant surprise at best, at worst it is insulting, rude, unnecessary. Not to mention the old argument about teaching them to hook. And I have seen that there is some truth to that. And the mixing of the pros with the out for fun girls in the same bars adds to the confusion.
HK offers different experiences. While there are lots of commercial offerings, there are also a large number of women who just want a nice guy, not be be bought. And the meeting, dating and opening are just. Fun.
Brown Rail
09-29-15, 10:48
No offense taken at all, I just didn't catch your meaning. Hen you say many have died doing the deed, do you mean because of vitamin V / see / L? Or too much, or too intense? I know it happens but I've never heard of a specific case.I know of one: Nelson Rockefeller. Not drugs, but heart attack doing is GF: http://www.reformation.org/megan-marshak.html.
Never heard of one specifically connected to chemistry.
Brown Rail
09-29-15, 14:14
Great summary of a night's adventure. Wish more punters could provide such an excellent summary of a night on the town. Keep up the good work Tommy Sued. Sound as though you got value for money here.I was also enjoying the story. But is there a band at New Makati? Don't think so.
Paying is often more convenient for partnered men who want to keep a secret. It's usually a safer option and cuts down UNWANTED calls etc, though its not 100% safe. Also partnered men have a lot to lose if found out by their partner.
But is there a band at New Makati? Don't think so.Have you been there on the same night?
There was a band playing live music on that particular night.
Is this new or was it a special that night? I don't know.
So far it was my first visit there. Will be back in HKG in a few weeks.
No offense taken at all, I just didn't catch your meaning. Hen you say many have died doing the deed, do you mean because of vitamin V / see / L? Or too much, or too intense? I know it happens but I've never heard of a specific case.
I know of one: Nelson Rockefeller. Not drugs, but heart attack doing is GF: http://www.reformation.org/megan-marshak.html.
Never heard of one specifically connected to chemistry.If you believe what you read, there was a SCMP article recently about research indicating that people don't die while having or immediately after sex.
HK offers different experiences. While there are lots of commercial offerings, there are also a large number of women who just want a nice guy, not be be bought. And the meeting, dating and opening are just. Fun.IMHO, I just pay to keep things simple and enjoyable for me. Even the offended ones come back. LOL.
But seriously, most are in need of money or are in HK to make money, so the stars kind of align.
WarmStone25
10-01-15, 15:52
I was in HK for a few days and decided to try saunas not to far from my hotel in TST. I went to Kobe Sauna, which is in the basement of the Regal Kowloon Hotel on Mody Road. I thought the price was steep at $2000.00. The woman at the front door said I would get full service for this. On entering staff are attentive and really take care of you. After waiting in the comfortable lounge I was shown to a room where an attractive girl in her twenties awaited. A good massage was given followed by a good sensuous massage and good hand job. I waited for her to complete the job but she showed no advance on the hand job. I asked her if she would get on top but she said I was to big and she could not. Her entire body posture indicated that she did not want me to touch her pussy or tits. This was not a full service. Although the things that she did do were good this was a disappointing start and not worth the money. A couple of days later I tried Sunny Island Sauna at Podium Plaza, 5 Hanoi Road, Tsimshatsui. I entered the lifts direct from the street and got off at the next floor up. The price was a more reasonable $850 for full service and 90 minutes. I received the same kind of attentive service as before and was shown to a similar comfortable lounge. I was shown to a room where an attractive girl in her twenties awaited. I thought my luck was in but 5 minutes into the massage the manager took the girl away because a regular customer had asked for her. A new girl arrived about 30+, nice legs and acceptable. Good enthusiastic massage and no problem with full service to completion. I did not even have to ask. I got the full time except for her leaving the room a couple of times to get some things. A couple of days later I repeated the exercise. Similar result, but the massage was a little more tired and when I worked it out I thought I had had 60 minutes service. This allows for leaving the room and finishing a little early. This was much better value for money, I enjoyed the experience. The staff were happy to receive a foreigner although the other customers were all Chinese by appearance. Was really close to the hotel that I was staying in.
Gannaton48
10-01-15, 16:23
I was in HK for a few days and decided to try saunas not to far from my hotel in TST. I went to Kobe Sauna, which is in the basement of the Regal Kowloon Hotel on Mody Road. I thought the price was steep at $2000.00. The woman at the front door said I would get full service for this. On entering staff are attentive and really take care of you. After waiting in the comfortable lounge I was shown to a room where an attractive girl in her twenties awaited. A good massage was given followed by a good sensuous massage and good hand job. I waited for her to complete the job but she showed no advance on the hand job. I asked her if she would get on top but she said I was to big and she could not. Her entire body posture indicated that she did not want me to touch her pussy or tits. This was not a full service. Although the things that she did do were good this was a disappointing start and not worth the money. A couple of days later I tried Sunny Island Sauna at Podium Plaza, 5 Hanoi Road, Tsimshatsui. I entered the lifts direct from the street and got off at the next floor up. The price was a more reasonable $850 for full service and 90 minutes. I received the same kind of attentive service as before and was shown to a similar comfortable lounge. I was shown to a room where an attractive girl in her twenties awaited. I thought my luck was in but 5 minutes into the massage the manager took the girl away because a regular customer had asked for her. A new girl arrived about 30+, nice legs and acceptable. Good enthusiastic massage and no problem with full service to completion. I did not even have to ask. I got the full time except for her leaving the room a couple of times to get some things. A couple of days later I repeated the exercise. Similar result, but the massage was a little more tired and when I worked it out I thought I had had 60 minutes service. This allows for leaving the room and finishing a little early. This was much better value for money, I enjoyed the experience. The staff were happy to receive a foreigner although the other customers were all Chinese by appearance. Was really close to the hotel that I was staying in.Hi there!
What was the price for FS in the second sauna? Did you egt BBBJ? Will be there in 10 days, thanks for info!
WarmStone25
10-01-15, 19:05
Hi there!
What was the price for FS in the second sauna? Did you egt BBBJ? Will be there in 10 days, thanks for info!As stated the price was 850 HKD for 90 minutes. Everything was covered. Did not ask for BBBJ.
You should allow for another 20 HKD. You are expected to put this in the box in the changing room as a tip for the staff.
Was in Hongkong recently and went to New Makati in Wanchai. Got a drink and was listening to the band when I was approached by a nice lady. Her artist name was Lili, she came from Indonesia. She was 1 m55 small, slim, A-cups, long black hair. I guess her age was around end 20.
We had a drink, some small talk for around one hour and as I liked her, asked if she would come to my hotel. She accepted and when I asked how much she wanted, she said "you decide how much you want to give me". So we went to my hotel which was just a short walk away.
We took a shower together and hopped onto the bed.
We started with kissing, then I worked on her nipples what she liked a lot. Then it was time for stimulating her clit and fingering her pussy. She got more and more wet.
Then she asked me to lay on my back, gave me a good blowjob, them licking my balls and my asshole. She went further and put her tongue inside my ass. Great feeling.
After some time, she got on top of me, grabbed my cock and put it inside her tight pussy, all bareback. We did not even talk about condom. So she was riding my cock while I worked again her nipples which were very hard. She rode herself to orgasm (or she is a good actress), her pussy juice was running down my cock.
Then I pounded her in missionary before turning her around and doing her doggystyle. What a great feeling to fuck that wet and tight pussy having her small ass in my hands. I could not resist for long and I shot my load deep inside her pussy.
We went to refresh under the shower, got back into bed and fell asleep.
Around 8 AM, I woke her up and we did a second hot round ending with a second pussy creampie.
We showered, she dressed up and before she left she gave me a long kiss. As I was really happy with her performance, I gave her 1500 HKD, which she seemed to make her happy.Giving women money, Makes them happy, dunno why that is LOL.
PC out.
JackTheLad2
10-02-15, 16:51
As stated the price was 850 HKD for 90 minutes. Everything was covered. Did not ask for BBBJ.
You should allow for another 20 HKD. You are expected to put this in the box in the changing room as a tip for the staff.That's a good bit cheaper than spending a fortune in the Wan Chai bars on drinks etc and then paying the WG rate of at least $1000 - $1500 for ST.
Might just try that on my visit next month.
Charlie Shine
10-03-15, 04:07
I only have similar experience in Bangkok, and I act more or less like your bud and also have the stand I don't pay for sex.
In Bangkok and over the years I have a handfull off working girls who are fine with this.
Probably you can look also different to this: if the girl don't go out she stays the whole day at her room and watching tv.
No other social contacts, by having a Farang who great her well and give attention to here she is willing to have sex with them.
Many of these girls even enjoy the sex too.
My experience and there are always people who immediately say "cheap charly" or similar but I just have time and switchend some years ago from pickimg up girls from a disco and pay them a lot with also the risk that back in the room she turnster out not the most willing person you thaumaturg she was before.
My standard for a DIA or ThaiFriendly contact which I use in Bangkok is always, meet in a public place like a shopping mall and around eating time.They are not happy because you are with holding money that will go t their families. The fact is they have enough pride not to ask and you don't have enough class to offer.
You think they are staying in their rooms watching tv. Just happy to be on a date with a farang? Keep dreaming. Most of these tv. Girls have online accounts (wechat etc.) whereby they offer services for money.
A date might seem like you are doing them a favour but resting in a room in front of a tv. With the potential for a paying client is more preferably then dating a cheap charley with no chance of compensation.
The girls you talk about are either desperate for affection and the hope of a relationship or they are playing the game in the hope of money in the morning, giving you the benefit of the doubt.
I know lots of people who use this tactic and the fact is you guys just don't have any respect for them or any understanding of their circumstances. Go to their villages and see how they live, this will change your mind.
To be honest I have done similar. I dated a barmaid from a bar in A / C. Had a nice dinner, great sex, took her home in the morning and never gave her a peso. When I mentioned it to a girl I took out of a bar she was absolutely.
Shocked at my behavior. She couldn't believe it. After the shock, she called me charlie the rest of the night and joked about how I already paid the mamasan so she was a lucky girl! In the morning she joked that she won't ask.
For tip because I might get heart attack to give her money.
Honestly, no matter how good looking you are or how much you spend on dinner, almost all Asian working girls are poor and need money to support the intricate network of family they belong to.
Unless you are dating them and in a mutually gratifying (gift giving) relationship you should give them money. Its as simple as that.
Robinsmart
10-04-15, 13:31
Dear mongers,
I plan to visit Hong Kong in Nov 1st week. Are there any places to pick up Russians in Hong Kong. Apologies If it is a repeat question for the forum.
Thanks
Hi,
I have gone through the forum posts and HK does look like a promising place. The only problem is that I will be there only for a day and that too starting a Monday -means I will miss the Sunday fun.
Given the less time, I am looking for an easy way out. Can someone let me know if there are reputed agencies that I can go with? I am looking for someone young and GFE. Are there sites where trusted independents advertise? Are BP and CL / locanto safe to go with?
Thanks a lot for the help.
Dear mongers,
I plan to visit Hong Kong in Nov 1st week. Are there any places to pick up Russians in Hong Kong. Apologies If it is a repeat question for the forum.
ThanksWhen in Rome, fuck Romans, when in HK fuck indentured Pinoy, Indo, Malay or Chinese so why don't you go to Russia to fuck Ruskie women? Like going to candy store to buy beef jerky.
JMHO or course.
PC out.
Yeah, I always scratch my head at guys who go to ASIA looking for white women and why must they always be Russian? Or is Russian, just slang for white prostitute? LOL.
HK still, technically, being a part of China means that Chinese is the way to go. The supply is in abundance and it's very affordable. I love the Indos and Pinays, but I save them for Angeles and Jakarta where (once again) the supply is there and extremely affordable.
If you really want white women in ASIA, Singapore or Dubai would be your best bet. Well, OK and I guess the two go-go bars in Pattaya on Walking Street count as well. In all three locations you're going to have to pay to dollar for them. I can say from personal experience that most of the white women you see on the P4P scene in Asia have only two things going for them, they're white, available and not much else. I assume he's Asian, Middle Eastern or Indian and if that's the case anything white will do. But seriously, if you want top notch white talent, go to Europe not only will it be (A lot) cheaper, but you will have way more to choose from.
Robinsmart
10-06-15, 16:18
Yeah, I always scratch my head at guys who go to ASIA looking for white women and why must they always be Russian? Or is Russian, just slang for white prostitute? LOL.
HK still, technically, being a part of China means that Chinese is the way to go. The supply is in abundance and it's very affordable. I love the Indos and Pinays, but I save them for Angeles and Jakarta where (once again) the supply is there and extremely affordable.
If you really want white women in ASIA, Singapore or Dubai would be your best bet. Well, OK and I guess the two go-go bars in Pattaya on Walking Street count as well. In all three locations you're going to have to pay to dollar for them. I can say from personal experience that most of the white women you see on the P4P scene in Asia have only two things going for them, they're white, available and not much else. I assume he's Asian, Middle Eastern or Indian and if that's the case anything white will do. But seriously, if you want top notch white talent, go to Europe not only will it be (A lot) cheaper, but you will have way more to choose from.I live in Singapore and have access to Asians for P4P readily available. So always look for Russians / other white women. Agree with you Europe is the place to seek white women. Was in London last year and tried few English girls and they were all great, though a bit more expensive than Hungarians / Romanian / Polish. Best thing is the deal is pretty transparent and you get everything they put in there profile. Can't go to Europe every day, so I look for white women in Asia. Is there any reliable escorts I can reach out to for Russian women in HK.
Thanks again,
Brown Rail
10-06-15, 17:47
Hi,
I have gone through the forum posts and HK does look like a promising place. The only problem is that I will be there only for a day and that too starting a Monday -means I will miss the Sunday fun.
Given the less time, I am looking for an easy way out. Can someone let me know if there are reputed agencies that I can go with? I am looking for someone young and GFE. Are there sites where trusted independents advertise? Are BP and CL / locanto safe to go with?
Thanks a lot for the help.Look at Chantik's posts. She seems to be a professional escort, and knows lots. And if I were in your shoes, with only one day to play, I would take her out.
Good luck!
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