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John Smart
12-05-07, 04:54
Thought we'd dried up a bit recently and drifted into trivialities about money exchange and hotels...

Then I see NgHoWan revived things a bit even if he is for the most part simply wrong about the bit that all girls under $1,500 are either mainlanders or dogs. Neither is true. Altho a lot of his points are useful.

Anyway ... here’s a quick run down on purple sign places (which are way below No Fun's $1,500 threshold), with a few of the places (some mentioned in prev posts) that me and me mate have been researching. The purple signs are places a bit down market from 37 Dundas and K Pressure in that its an all in one, ie, you don’t go upstairs to a ‘hotel’. Service is consistent, however, the girls try to please, and the mama usually checks after that service was good!

The girls are not stunners, most are mid to late 20s; some are a bit past their use by date, but many can be quite attractive. In comparison with the 141 individual places where service is often very hit and miss, and with the hotel girls where it’s often a CWOT apart from seeing a beautiful girl underneath you, you will basically never leave a purple sign place without a smile on your face. They are all very happy humping grounds.

Most places claim they’re open 24 hours, which is probably true, but few worthwhile girls come on shift before 2 pm, although there’ll be some hanging round all the time.

All the girls are legal in that they have Hong Kong ID cards – unlike 8 Mong Kok Rd.

They’re probably all triad run, but they’re all upfront and straight and many of the mamas and papas at the front desk speak often quite good English. You wont get ripped off, have gear stolen etc, in any of these places.

The charge at most of em is $360 more or less, for 45 mins. This is an all-in charge (puns are free), there’s no extra charge for the room, nor are you expected to tip. You pay afterwards at the front desk. Give em $400, they’ll put down two 20s; leave a $20 tip on the tray.

Most have a small generally very clean room with plastic covered bed and mirrors all around; shower toilet attached; TV with porno film on; you get ice and fire in many of em

The Routine is standard: Shower, BBBJ in shower; onto bed, back licking, AR; turn over, body massage, BBBJ, the works

Four I’ve tried out (all up on 2/F):

Club Meeting, 392 Portland St, mama is Nancy, no shit and v straight woman; good service, no hassle place; problem with rooms there at the moment, however, in that you now need to go to a sister place on Portland on the other side of Prince Edward Rd. (one of Nancy’s guy leads you the 100 meters; its no prob)

Gam Tin, 457 Shanghai St; friendly service

Sam Chuen, 685 Shanghai St; friendly service; friendly mama who speaks good English

Ging Wah, 398 Portland St – Surly service by guys at the front desk; quite a long wait for past her use by date girl who eventually turned up (I’d avoid this one, but that may have been just an off day!)


http://www.man169.com/
is the site for many of them although they don’t update that regularly some of them; its also all in Chinese. To orient you a bit re. man169, go down the left side bar, click the drop down under Massage. You’ll see 9 entries – below and above the diamonds essentially.
Click on one and you get taken to the site’s ‘Photo Album” with 6 tabs.
The first is the building; the second the girls; ignore the rest.
For each site, you can see the address in the fifth box down at the left, with price.


Happy humping and find us a few more purple signs worthy of visiting

JS

AsnDragon
12-05-07, 10:25
John Smart,

Nice report. But sticking with 141 or 161 would be better of- www.******.com

These triad run places, i hear have higher percentage of raids by cops. That's what my HK local friend told me. With the 141 places, it's at their apartment, so it's a little bit less risky. As HK laws are a bit strange in itself. You can be in a room with one girl even if they are a prostitute. But more than one girl you can be arrested because multiple girls would signify prostitution ring. That's what I heard. Perhaps I am wrong. Please correct me if I have the wrong information.

In terms of the 141 apartments. I feel that it's a bit better because most of the women are independents. As opposed to the triad run places, not all girls are willing to be in that line of work.

Just my two cents. But the places you described, I have heard give wonderful service though.

Rick Hunter
12-06-07, 08:41
AsnDragon you are correct in your understanding of the law. The purple sign places are still quite safe for punters although I do not venture out to them often, although I did last night for the first time in quite a while.

John has recommended some good places in the past and I have found out about a few good places from him.



John Smart,

Nice report. But sticking with 141 or 161 would be better of- www.******.com

These triad run places, i hear have higher percentage of raids by cops. That's what my HK local friend told me. With the 141 places, it's at their apartment, so it's a little bit less risky. As HK laws are a bit strange in itself. You can be in a room with one girl even if they are a prostitute. But more than one girl you can be arrested because multiple girls would signify prostitution ring. That's what I heard. Perhaps I am wrong. Please correct me if I have the wrong information.

In terms of the 141 apartments. I feel that it's a bit better because most of the women are independents. As opposed to the triad run places, not all girls are willing to be in that line of work.

Just my two cents. But the places you described, I have heard give wonderful service though.

Cappy
12-06-07, 12:02
Just wanted to say thanks to Scorpio33 for the "Zuji" lead. I'd never heard of them and zuji.com looks to be a fairly complete and useful travel site and company.

Customer Service has no problem dealing with an off-continent traveler. All correspondence has been cordial and business-like.

One concern I have is that in contrast to some of the Mainland agencies (like c-trip, etc.) they don't have a "meet & greet" desk at HKIA nor do they offer a direct to hotel service. This means that if you're not able to book and receive an e-ticket, one has to go to their HK office to pick up your paper-work.

Beyond that they look to be great! Does anyone know if "Zuji" advertises in the local media and are there any other groups like them in HK?

Many thanks,
Cappy


Have you given zuji.com a try? The full HK version of their site is at: http://www.zuji.com.hk

Typically they have some decent online deals all over Asia. However, there are often some strict limitations for the cheapest tickets - ie: must use Visa card; must travel with 2 people; must stay 3 days, but no more then 5; etc. It just really depends on where you're going and the time of year. Several weeks ago, they had a return fare from HKG to XMN for HK$588 plus tax.

Neuromancer
12-06-07, 14:20
Just wanted to say thanks to Scorpio33 for the "Zuji" lead. I'd never heard of them and zuji.com looks to be a fairly complete and useful travel site and company.

Customer Service has no problem dealing with an off-continent traveler. All correspondence has been cordial and business-like.

One concern I have is that in contrast to some of the Mainland agencies (like c-trip, etc.) they don't have a "meet & greet" desk at HKIA nor do they offer a direct to hotel service. This means that if you're not able to book and receive an e-ticket, one has to go to their HK office to pick up your paper-work.

Beyond that they look to be great! Does anyone know if "Zuji" advertises in the local media and are there any other groups like them in HK?

Many thanks,

CappyI've found that priceline.com.hk has slightly better pricing, and they also have some pretty good hotel/airfare deals - ie, I once booked a package to Shanghai where the hotel + airfare was actually about the same or slightly cheaper (don't remember exactly) than just buying the air ticket outright (not quite sure how that works?).

Strike1
12-06-07, 20:53
I am staying at the Peninsula in a few weeks and have trouble bringing anyone back with me to the hotel. Other then hari's, is there anywhere else to go close by in Kowloon that anyone can reccomend?

Firebird
12-06-07, 22:49
I am staying at the Peninsula in a few weeks and have trouble bringing anyone back with me to the hotel. Other then hari's, is there anywhere else to go close by in Kowloon that anyone can reccomend?

Strike - get out of Holiday Inn (Hari's) onto Nathan, make a right turn, make another right turn onto Mody and walk several blocks to STICKY FINGERS - should find some talent there. If you do a search in the forum you will find further information on Sticky Fingers

Hk Dog
12-07-07, 03:02
Strike - get out of Holiday Inn (Hari's) onto Nathan, make a right turn, make another right turn onto Mody and walk several blocks to STICKY FINGERS - should find some talent there. If you do a search in the forum you will find further information on Sticky Fingers


Why anyone would travel 10+ hrs on a plane and not want to travel 15min thru the tunnel to Wan Chai is beyond me. Sticky Fingers has girls there. The word 'talent' is debatable.

MegaPoint
12-07-07, 11:35
Generally agree with most of what Nghowaan said and it provides a summary of part of the scene in HK from a local perspective.

I have to disagree with him somewhat about local HK girls and expats. I think for those just passing through town in would be hard to have a one night stand but not if you live here. Many of my staff comment on how lucky I am to be a gwielo and the advantages that it provides.

I agree with HKDog it seems the size of ones wallet is a huge attraction here. Some girls seem to get wet here as soon as they see your business card or hear where you live.

Also there are many HK girls that have gone overseas for schooling and some come back with a thing for white guys. I have more than one HK female friend who will pick up a white guy for fun. I will agree that Nghowaan that those who are pretty and have great English tend to have good jobs (I have some working for me) so they will not be looking for any poor slob.

Other than pay for play I tend to stay away from HK girls for one night stands. Central is too small and you never know when you are going to be walking into a bank or law firm and have to deal with an awkward situation. Too many other options.

My two cents on this: I have had a number of HK girlfriends, but I have been here almost 20 years, and have made friendships which led to something else. There is one category of HK woman which hasn't been mentioned: Women who were born on the Mainland, and came to HK as teens or later. My best experiences have been with such women, whether for one night or one month or a year or more. For someone just passing through, it could be hard to tell who's who in this way, but for expats who live here, I wonder if any of them have had the same experience. The truly local girls are still sleeping with Hello Kitty in their 30s, if you know what I mean.....

Stonk
12-07-07, 18:02
Gentlemen

For mongering purposes, should I come to HK.

- a week before Chinese New Year
- during Chinese New Year (I presume not - girls home with family?)
- the week after Chinese New Year
- further away from Chinese New Year
- Chinese New year doesn't matter at all

Thks

GherkinPicking up Gherkins' question again. I'm planing to visit HK during Chinese New Year as well. Has anybody experienced HK at that time? How is mongering (and of course sightseeing as well)?

Thx in advance,

Stonk

Pointpanic
12-07-07, 21:52
Why anyone would travel 10+ hrs on a plane and not want to travel 15min thru the tunnel to Wan Chai is beyond me. Sticky Fingers has girls there. The word 'talent' is debatable.


HKDOG I plan to spend one day in HK, heading for Changping. Am lazy and have hotel in Kowloon. In addition to 141 action am looking for good bar in Kowloon. I would say "why travel 10+ hours on plane and spend much time in Hong Kong when Macau and Dongguan are so close?"

MegaPoint
12-08-07, 01:26
Picking up Gherkins' question again. I'm planing to visit HK during Chinese New Year as well. Has anybody experienced HK at that time? How is mongering (and of course sightseeing as well)?

Thx in advance,

Stonk

Mongering opportunities will be quite limited during CNY. I suggest giving it a week clear on either side. CNY, and any of those 'Golden Week' holiday periods is also typically when there are crackdowns of a half-hearted but annoying sort to show the powers in Beijing how 'serious' the HK government is about, well, cracking down.

Basically the first half of February 2008 may be quite dull, and only the most expensive chicks, or the horror stories, will be around. Of course, FLs from non-Chinese countries will still be working Wanchai, etc., with the exception of Filipinas, who will go back to the the Flipps en masse to live like queens for a week.

Gherkin
12-08-07, 06:43
Thanks very much MegaPoint. This is exactly the info I was looking for last week.

Gherkin


Mongering opportunities will be quite limited during CNY. I suggest giving it a week clear on either side. CNY, and any of those 'Golden Week' holiday periods is also typically when there are crackdowns of a half-hearted but annoying sort to show the powers in Beijing how 'serious' the HK government is about, well, cracking down.

Basically the first half of February 2008 may be quite dull, and only the most expensive chicks, or the horror stories, will be around. Of course, FLs from non-Chinese countries will still be working Wanchai, etc., with the exception of Filipinas, who will go back to the the Flipps en masse to live like queens for a week.

Ez Going One
12-08-07, 15:51
I made the trip from New Terr where I am in town for a couple of nights down to TST area this afternoon for some delight. I called Karen from the 161 site and found that her English speaking claim was not exactly true but Hell, who was there to talk?

She is a pretty young spinner and able to understand she is from ShenZhen and returning at the end of the month. I suppose her work visa expires. Anyway, she has a very good attitude and open to any and all positions. I totally enjoyed the time with her and will certainly see her again on another visit to the area.

Ez.

The World
12-09-07, 09:10
Was wondering what are the best times to go to the above places in terms of choice and quality of women?

I'm guessing its going to be during a week day time.

Reason i ask is cause i'm working, this is pretty much impossible for me to do and i can only really go on the weekends or after work (btw any idea when these places close).

Shyguy123
12-09-07, 12:16
What is the url of that 141 website?


John Smart,

Nice report. But sticking with 141 or 161 would be better of- www.******.com

These triad run places, i hear have higher percentage of raids by cops. That's what my HK local friend told me. With the 141 places, it's at their apartment, so it's a little bit less risky. As HK laws are a bit strange in itself. You can be in a room with one girl even if they are a prostitute. But more than one girl you can be arrested because multiple girls would signify prostitution ring. That's what I heard. Perhaps I am wrong. Please correct me if I have the wrong information.

In terms of the 141 apartments. I feel that it's a bit better because most of the women are independents. As opposed to the triad run places, not all girls are willing to be in that line of work.

Just my two cents. But the places you described, I have heard give wonderful service though.

Jbourne1234
12-09-07, 12:24
Can anyone recommend a place where you can find 2 bi girls?

Thanks

Big Mao
12-09-07, 16:14
Yes, I've been there during weekdays and weekends. Usually the pm of weekdays will give you lots more choices. According to the mamasan, so far as my memory serves me right, around 2-5pm. I've been unable to go for the same reason as yours. So recently I've been to Dongguan/Shenzhen more often during weekends. It needs more time, but the quality of girls makes it worthwhile!


Was wondering what are the best times to go to the above places in terms of choice and quality of women?

I'm guessing its going to be during a week day time.

Reason i ask is cause i'm working, this is pretty much impossible for me to do and i can only really go on the weekends or after work (btw any idea when these places close).

J Lover
12-09-07, 19:44
Hong Kong chicks starting from $1500 and up. They are not cheap. Anything below $1500, they are from mainland China. This is a golden rule in Hong Kong, if the price tag is lower than $1500, 99.9% the chick you are screwing is not from Hong kong. For those mainland China chicks, do not expect they say a word of English. However, you should have no problem to communicate with a Hong Kong girl in English. They might speak with accent, but at least you don't need to use your hand to communicate like you do with mainland China girls...A brilliant post, Nghowaan, you should get a medal for this!

I am considering going over there in January, and I specifically want local gals, not MLC. I was aware of that 141 site already, but the number of gals on there charging 1500 or more is severely limited. I could only find a handful, and most of them had no pics. Could it be that because HK is so small, most local gals are too afraid to do that type of work? I'm thinking of also spending some time in Macau. I've already been there a few times, but not in recent years.

I was surprised to learn most of the pics on 141 are provided by the piaoke.

Nghowaan
12-09-07, 19:58
Then I see NgHoWan revived things a bit even if he is for the most part simply wrong about the bit that all girls under $1,500 are either mainlanders or dogs. Neither is true. Altho a lot of his points are useful.Perhaps you are right, may be I didn't really look into the late 20s category. I tend to stay away from any chicks older than 26. I am paying anyway...I would like to have something fresh~ =P

Nghowaan
12-09-07, 20:03
Most places claim they’re open 24 hours, which is probably true, but few worthwhile girls come on shift before 2 pm, although there’ll be some hanging round all the time.

All the girls are legal in that they have Hong Kong ID cards – unlike 8 Mong Kok Rd.

They’re probably all triad run, but they’re all upfront and straight and many of the mamas and papas at the front desk speak often quite good English. You wont get ripped off, have gear stolen etc, in any of these places.One more thing I forgot to tell you guys. A girl with a Hong Kong ID cards do not make them a Hong Kong girls. A lot of mainland China girls pay to get marry with some Hong Kong dudes to get ID card. Once they got the ID card, they will work in those places you mentioned. Of course, there are some late 20's to early 30s ex-club girls work there also. They *are* Hong Kong girls.

You can't really tell unless you understand Cantonese and able to tell by their accent.

Web Connect
12-10-07, 05:36
I was surprised to learn most of the pics on 141 are provided by the piaoke.What is the piaoke?

Xdentx
12-10-07, 07:54
I'm currently in Hong Kong at the start of a multi country trip. Since the Philippines is not on my agenda, I've been focusing on the Philippina ladies of the Wan Chai bars like Laguna, Makati, and Fenwicks. I've had three LT so far, all Philippina, and all very nice, and all 1000HK for the night. However, one girl in particular stood out for her oral service. The interesting thing is that this girl is an undiscovered gem in my opinion. She's not particularly popular because she's a little shy and perhaps a 6 in looks. However, in attitude and performance, she's a 9. We began the evening with an extended shower. She was very proactive in helping me wash and probably would have been content to stay there and wash me as long as I wished. She is a spinner...about 5 feet tall, 100 lbs,and long dark hair. An "A" cup no doubt with nice responsive dark nipples. We proceeded to the bed and she entertained me with a very, very talanted BBBJ complete with lots of licking and ball sucking (no AR however). It's such a pleasure to watch a woman who not only is good at BBBJ, but obviously enjoys it. Some women are willing to do a little BJ and then move on to other things, but she was content to please/serve me for as long as I wished. We eventually moved on to other activities and spent the rest of the night snuggling in bed. The morning was a repeat performance.

We spent the next morning and afternoon exploring the city together. She confided that I was her first "guest" in four nights. She returns to the Philippines in several days...so shelf life is limited. I'd like to make her number available to anyone who is interested. Since she works out of the Wan Chai bars, not sure how you'd meet her, but when there's a will, theres a way. PM me for "May's" number and be nice to her.

J Lover
12-10-07, 12:35
What is the piaoke?嫖客: A coarse, but fave word of mine which doesn't have a direct English translation, so I use it as-is. Basically means "p4p customer".

Softy
12-10-07, 17:00
Can anyone recommend a place where you can find 2 bi girls?

Thanks


You will not find a prevalence of bi-girls in HK. The only semi-reliable option is the Thai girls in Neptunes. I have taken out a couple of twosomes that were into it in the past.

Nghowaan
12-10-07, 17:47
A brilliant post, Nghowaan, you should get a medal for this!

I am considering going over there in January, and I specifically want local gals, not MLC. I was aware of that 141 site already, but the number of gals on there charging 1500 or more is severely limited. I could only find a handful, and most of them had no pics. Could it be that because HK is so small, most local gals are too afraid to do that type of work? I'm thinking of also spending some time in Macau. I've already been there a few times, but not in recent years.

I was surprised to learn most of the pics on 141 are provided by the piaoke.If you get on the 141 website and search by "Local", you should get a lot of results. And a lot of them are dirty cheap and below $400. Some chicks *are* locals, but you should expect they are 30+. The picture usually look way younger than she actually is. I have learned my lesson the hard way.

Some others who cliam they are "locals" are actually Mainlanders who has HK ID card. They speak Cantonese with accent.

There are some young locals there, and most of them are in the range of $1200+ with no pictures provided. And they will *not* give you pictures, so don't even ask. Imagine if you are young and you are actually a local, I think you will not be stupid enough to post your picture up there to tell everyone and their friend she is a freaking hooker. They just want to make some fast cash, being a hooker is not their *primary* job.

JuiceGuy
12-11-07, 02:46
I'm currently in Hong Kong at the start of a multi country trip. Since the Philippines is not on my agenda, I've been focusing on the Philippina ladies of the Wan Chai bars like Laguna, Makati, and Fenwicks. I've had three LT so far, all Philippina, and all very nice, and all 1000HK for the night. However, one girl in particular stood out for her oral service. The interesting thing is that this girl is an undiscovered gem in my opinion. She's not particularly popular because she's a little shy and perhaps a 6 in looks. However, in attitude and performance, she's a 9. We began the evening with an extended shower. She was very proactive in helping me wash and probably would have been content to stay there and wash me as long as I wished. She is a spinner...about 5 feet tall, 100 lbs,and long dark hair. An "A" cup no doubt with nice responsive dark nipples. We proceeded to the bed and she entertained me with a very, very talanted BBBJ complete with lots of licking and ball sucking (no AR however). It's such a pleasure to watch a woman who not only is good at BBBJ, but obviously enjoys it. Some women are willing to do a little BJ and then move on to other things, but she was content to please/serve me for as long as I wished. We eventually moved on to other activities and spent the rest of the night snuggling in bed. The morning was a repeat performance.

We spent the next morning and afternoon exploring the city together. She confided that I was her first "guest" in four nights. She returns to the Philippines in several days...so shelf life is limited. I'd like to make her number available to anyone who is interested. Since she works out of the Wan Chai bars, not sure how you'd meet her, but when there's a will, theres a way. PM me for "May's" number and be nice to her.



Just curious, did you pick her up at Highway?

Hk Dog
12-11-07, 04:33
Just curious, did you pick her up at Highway?


Highway is a go go bar. Ain't no way, no matter even how ugly the girl is, the price is going to be 1000HKD for LT.

MegaPoint
12-11-07, 10:42
嫖客: A coarse, but fave word of mine which doesn't have a direct English translation, so I use it as-is. Basically means "p4p customer".

I wonder if this is the same as the Cantonese 'pok kai', which means approximately 'sonofab*tch'...especially when used intensely...

Tiger 888
12-11-07, 12:06
I wonder if this is the same as the Cantonese 'pok kai', which means approximately 'sonofab*tch'...especially when used intensely...
No, it is in cantonese "piu4(low tone falling) haak3(middle tone)"

The World
12-11-07, 15:12
Yes, I've been there during weekdays and weekends. Usually the pm of weekdays will give you lots more choices. According to the mamasan, so far as my memory serves me right, around 2-5pm. I've been unable to go for the same reason as yours. So recently I've been to Dongguan/Shenzhen more often during weekends. It needs more time, but the quality of girls makes it worthwhile!

I'm in SZ this weekend, but won't have to oppurtunity to partake.

Thanks for the info re timings.

Now if only they had something like K-Pressure on HK Island. But then again if they did, prices would be higher.

Yes, I know I could go with the 141's, but for some reason I've preferred K-Pressure / 37 Dundas.

Xdentx
12-11-07, 16:50
HK dog: No I found May at the Laguna or Makati. Can't remember. Have never done the go-go places. Haven't heard of the Highway.

Timps
12-11-07, 18:32
I have a lay over in Hong Kong from 7am to 4pm.

I don't want to sit in the airport all day. What is the best bet to monger and see a little of the city. Any suggestions?

Bradley
12-11-07, 19:28
Hey Fellas,

Been a while since I've had a chance to travel abroad. I'm heading to China in a few weeks.

I'll be connecting thru HK and arriving in the evening. My connection is the next morning so I need to find a place to stay.

Does anybody know of a good but cheap hotel near the HK airport? If not, any recommendations for hotels in Mongkok?

Thanks y'all!

BB

Playboy2000
12-12-07, 00:39
I've made a number of contributions to this site over the years. I have a very specific question - I hope someone can help me out.

I was wondering if there is any activity at Laguna in the late afternoons on Fridays or Mondays (non-holiday days)? I went to Laguna about 4 years ago on a Monday afternoon and there were about 15 domestic helpers dancing there. Is it still the case that there is some light activity during the daytime (4-6PM) during the week?

Stargm
12-12-07, 01:51
I've made a number of contributions to this site over the years. I have a very specific question - I hope someone can help me out.Its still the case!! More on Fridays than Mondays! Packed on Sundays!

Hk Dog
12-12-07, 02:30
I was wondering if there is any activity at Laguna in the late afternoons on Fridays or Mondays (non-holiday days)? I went to Laguna about 4 years ago on a Monday afternoon and there were about 15 domestic helpers dancing there. Is it still the case that there is some light activity during the daytime (4-6PM) during the week?


Those time slots are excellent if you and your mates are up for a game of 'hogging'. Look it up if you don't know the rules.

JackTheLad2
12-12-07, 04:51
I am coming to the end of a weeks mongering in HK which I will report on later but the following story is strange - at least to me. I contacted zdentx (see his concise report No. 1294) to get the phone number of May which he kindly supplied and I phoned her and arranged to meet her in Fenwicks last night. Through txts etc I finally located her in Fenwicks - those of you who have been there will know tht is not the easiest of things to do as it was very busy. When I eye-balled her I knew she was not for me - everyone's tastes are different - so I did not approach her but did txt her to say sorry but no (I now regret this as I should have least have at least spoken to her but I did not want to build up expectations on her part).
A couple of hours later I got one of about 6 txts from "Jane" asking if I wanted to meet a girl. Intrigued, I asked how she got my name but she would not say. Further intrigued, I agreed to meet her and her friend outside Amazonia in about 1/2 hour time. I'm reasonably street wise and when I got a further text from her I suggested meeting outside the bar in the street. She told me what she would be wearing so I would recognise her and eventually she came up to me with a young pretty girl. She asked to confirm my name which I denied initially but she was sharp enough to have dialled my cell phone and of course it rang in front of her. Don't ask me why but I suspected a scam/set up. She asked me if I liked her friend - very pretty but looked about 14 although she said she was 22. I told Jane I was not interested as nice as possible - I would have taken Jane but she told me she was not a prostitute. Then about 4/5 other very young girls suddenly appeared on the scene and I decided to take my leave. Two more calls were then made to me by Jane calling me all sorts of bastards etc. One of the calls came early in the following morningm when I was entertaining and this did not go down too well as she was a regular of mine.

I now suspect she was an agent touting for business for her girls but I prefer to make my own selection based on looks dress etc.

Did I do wrong?

JackTheLad2
12-12-07, 12:30
Further to the report below, I got another call from "Jane" and arranged to meet her for a coffee in Times Square. I was right - she is the agent for 10 girls and looks after them. She was curious as to how I got May's phone number and I explained the position - she had never heard of the ISG site but I did confirm that "May" had given her permision for the number to be released. We had a very enjoyable 2 hour coffee break and she provided me with a lot of useful information on the sex scene in HK - more later. Suffice to say all girls in Fenwicks and Neptune are WG's and their price varies consiiderably depending on supply and demand but it is unlikely that a visitor will get LT for less than HK$1000. One of the girls I met earlier in the week told me she never went for less than $2000 and that she had no problem getting this. She simply did not go out for less - more about her in a later report but she was a stunner.
I have arranged to meet "Jane" and one of her girls later (at her suggestion)in the day and will see what transpires. At least the air has been cleared.
If anyone wants to contact "Jane" direct for one of her girls then I can PM the number. As I am still regarded as a bastard because of last night, I am hoping to rectify this.

Jbourne1234
12-13-07, 00:38
How does it work with the hotel reservation girls on s_x141, do you book a hotel or you ring them & they take you to one of those hourly places?

Thanks

Uncle Goober
12-13-07, 01:53
... she had never heard of the ISG site ...Jack, I hope you didn't release the ISG site details to this lady?

Cheers,

Goober

Hklover
12-13-07, 08:02
Looking for what price ranges I should be shooting for ST and LT when mongering in Neptune, Lagunas, etc.

I've read the threads and it seems folks are saying 500-700HK is a good price for ST. Is that about right?

I haven't been to HK for a while and visiting pretty soon.

Thanks for any advice and you gotta love this forum! It rocks!

JackTheLad2
12-13-07, 09:50
[QUOTE=Uncle Goober]Jack, I hope you didn't release the ISG site details to this lady?

Lets face it - she can access the site in the same way as anyone can if she wants.
She did make a comment she might use it as a vehicle to supply/advertise her girls to potential punters. After all, one of her girls gave permission to be contacted through the site.
Overall I don't think any harm has been done.

JackTheLad2
12-13-07, 09:59
How does it work with the hotel reservation girls on s_x141, do you book a hotel or you ring them & they take you to one of those hourly places?

I have used the hotel reservations. I phone the number - usually a male voice answers. I tell him who I want and that I would like her to visit my hotel, giving the details. I have never had a problem although at times the girl you want is not available at the time you want. At least you have an opportunity to view his suggested replacement before agreeing. They phone you at the hotel to check you are a resident and just before the girl arrives. My experience is that they send "better quality" in case you send them back. Expect to add something for the taxi fare. None I have had spoke any English, no kissing and limited touching. Otherwise no problem. Some stunners have been sent and great service with the exagerated moaning.

I gather the other alternative is for you to be directed to the hotel the girl is in but I have never used this service. As far as I know ther is no problem with this arrangment. After all, if you don't like her, you don't need to continue.
Hope this helps.

Hk Dog
12-13-07, 10:33
[QUOTE=Uncle Goober]
She did make a comment she might use it as a vehicle to supply/advertise her girls to potential punters. After all, one of her girls gave permission to be contacted through the site.
Overall I don't think any harm has been done.


I was under the impression that this is flagrantly against the rules of the site.

Uncle Goober
12-13-07, 10:43
Lets face it - she can access the site in the same way as anyone can if she wants.Jack. We will have to agree to disagree on this one.

This site is for mongers. Not for the agents. If agents start to use the site, the quality and veracity of posts becomes suspect. If girls start visiting the site, the number and quality of photos dries up. Nothing good ever comes of letting the girls know that the site exists or how to access it.

Anyways. What is done is done.

Cheers, Goober

PS. I always enjoy your reports. Keep up the good work.

Le Licheur
12-13-07, 11:37
I wrote this on another forum so if you belong to both, you'll see this twice!

I finally made it to HK and although I managed to have a good experience earlier, I’ll write about it later since I have to get this off my chest. I almost feel that I have a duty to report this girl. In my opinion, she should not be in this business.

I was relaxing in my hotel room this afternoon and I was debating about whether I should try one of the 141 gals or invite "Sexy" to come for a visit. I had read 2 reviews about this girl. One of them was quite negative but the other was the opposite. After looking at her info and focusing on the positive review, I decided to call her up. I just had to find out for myself! I should have known better.

I called her number and was told that for an additional $200, she would be available to come to my hotel later in the afternoon. I agreed and she came at the scheduled time. To start with, I wasn’t sure the girl who showed up was her so I questioned her about it. She assured me that it was really her. I did see some similarities so it could very well have been her although the girl who came to my room seemed to have bigger tits than the girl in the photos. She also had a tooth on the left side of her mouth which needed some work and I don’t think that’s obvious with the girl whose photos appear on the web. Photoshop pisses me off sometimes!

I was horny so I said ok, what the hell. As soon as she saw my dick, she said "too big". I’m sure I’m no bigger than average so it went downhill from there. In the shower, she kept repeating that I was too big. She spent more time lathering herself up than me.

We made our way to the bed where she quickly licked my nipples, then quickly put the rubber on me, then quickly took my dick in her mouth for a few seconds and then inserted it in her well lubricated pussy. Did I mention I hate these fu***** lubricants? Almost immediately, she started with the fakest fu***** moans I’ve ever heard and she’s telling me to hurry! That was a real turn-off for me. I lost my erection and I knew this wasn’t going to work for me. I took the rubber off and told her to put her clothes on and leave. She seemed surprised so I told her that if she wanted to be in this business, she needed to at least put some effort into learning how to please a customer.

Now that I had told her to leave, I had to decide what to do next. By this time, she had only been with me for 15 minutes including intro time and shower. Do I refuse to pay her? I’m in a new city, don’t know anyone here and she knows where I am so I figured I had to give her something. I offered her $500 but she told me how $1000 was not much money for her "services". She spoke English but not well and I didn’t want to start debating what she did and/or didn’t do. I decided it was worth $1000 to get her to leave so I gave it to her and opened the door.

I was really pissed and I figured I should at least call the person who handled her book so I called her number after she left. Who answers? She did! I hung up.

I know full well that YMMV but after my experience, I know how the other negative poster felt and although the girl I saw may be fully capable of making some guys happy (she had a real nice pair of tits), I would caution anyone else who might be tempted by her ad to go for it at your own peril.

I don't think I can add her link here but I can add what she advertises on her ad. She advertises herself as 19 yrs old, 5'6", 34c and goes for $800.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

BionicMan
12-13-07, 16:29
[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]
I was under the impression that this is flagrantly against the rules of the site.

There are rules on not posting email addresses, phone nos., but there are also quite some specific "advertising" sections in many countries in here.
So... There are rules..and there are rules!

BionicMan
12-13-07, 17:07
I have a lay over in Hong Kong from 7am to 4pm.
I don't want to sit in the airport all day. What is the best bet to monger and see a little of the city. Any suggestions?

Take the airport express train to TST, take a cab or metro to Nathan Rd area nearby the Holiday Inn and you will not be far from a mongering area.
Have a breakfast! and then be ready for the action.
Plenty of information on that location and what services are offered if you RTFF.
Set your alarm clock to leave in time to catch your 4pm flight so that you do not pass the check in time getting some BJ quite far away from the flight gate!
Enjoy!

Manfest
12-13-07, 19:42
I have a lay over in Hong Kong from 7am to 4pm.

I don't want to sit in the airport all day. What is the best bet to monger and see a little of the city. Any suggestions?

Take the airport express train to TST, take a cab or metro to Nathan Rd area nearby the Holiday Inn and you will not be far from a mongering area.
Have a breakfast! and then be ready for the action.Plenty of information on that location and what services are offered if you RTFF.
Set your alarm clock to leave in time to catch your 4pm flight so that you do not pass the check in time getting some BJ quite far away from the flight gate!
Enjoy!

I agree with Bionicman, plenty of time for some mongering, but you'll have to RTFF to have all the info ready to go. If not, then you don't have enough time to randomly fish for some 'tang. There are acutally several entertaining posts over the last year that discuss such a game to get as much mongering in between flights as humanly possible. Some advice: no Wanchai bar action available at that hour, saunas sometimes are 24 hours, but often less quantity, possible less quality at early hours. Same applies to 141 situation. Best bet is to hit the Shanghai, MongKok, Nathan street locales early; then hit K and 37D after 10AM. That way you can get at least two rounds in before heading back to the airport. In terms of sightseeing, there are great pictures on the internet that will suffice. And you can eat on the plane... :)

Cheers, have a great time

Noman2
12-14-07, 02:06
This will be my first trip to HK, anyone can recommended a good hotel in midle range (around $70-80) close to action?

Le Licheur
12-14-07, 02:23
I don't want to get in trouble so I may as well ask the question. The rules say posting photos from escort websites is ok but it's not clear if that means from an individual escort's site or from a group site like 141.

Guidance please.

Scribe
12-14-07, 04:32
Looking for what price ranges I should be shooting for ST and LT when mongering in Neptune, Lagunas, etc.
For a Thai or Flip, I think 500 for short time is acceptable to most of them, unless they are really stunning.
2 years back, I had a quickie with a 22 year old Filipina from Neptune 2 for only 300 HKD. She was coming on to me strongly, and 300 was all I had in my pocket, so I offered that to her thinking she would then leave me alone. However, she persisted. I stuck to my guns, and after a while she agreed the price! She was happy to repeat the experience for the same price a week later too.

Hk Dog
12-14-07, 07:41
For a Thai or Flip, I think 500 for short time is acceptable to most of them, unless they are really stunning.
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There aren't many 'stunning' flippers in tunes but I may be jaded. No self respecting Thai would ever go ST for 500 due to loss of face. There may be some Thai who will do it but she would most probably have the looks of someone who should pay you!

JuiceGuy
12-14-07, 14:46
I was wandering from bar to bar Wednesday night and was having a hard time finding what I wanted. I went to Fenwicks, then Neptunes, Highway, Fire House, and Joe Bananas. I must have hit Fenwicks, Neptunes and Joey B's at least 5 or 6 times. I even hit New Makati once (It was totally dead). Damn was I being picky.

Here is my rundown. New Makati, Fire House, and Highway were totally dead. Firehouse (unfortunately the shower was not working) had a few nice lookers, but you could tell they were hardened as hell. Definitely no GFE experience. At one point, I was the only guy in there.

I was the only person in Highway. They had 3 girls total. Slim pickings.

I was very surprised that Joe Bananas had almost no working girls. There were a few, but not like the last time I was there.

Fenwicks and Neptunes were happening, but, overall, the girls were not amazing. Interestingly there were only 3-4 Colombian girls working at Fenwicks. Someone told me the Police want to shut Fenwicks down because the Colombian girls keep selling cocaine out of there. There have been several police raids in the past few weeks, according to my friend, and many of the Colombian girls were arrested.

Anyway, I kept going from bar to bar, with a couple stops at Ebenezers for some energy, for several hours. About 2:00 AM this pretty filipino girl with braces (she is 27) approached me. She was REALLY cute. She wanted 2000 HK for LT.

We went back to my hotel and she absolutely provided the best GFE experience. Massage, back scratch, BBBJ, DATY (which she totally loved and was very forceful about it pushing my head deeper and deeper), FS in multiple positions. The only thing she would not do was A, but that was fine.

Once we finished she turned into the GFE, massaging and scratching my body until I fell asleep. I took her number I told her that I would call her on Thursday. She didn't believe me. I called around 4:30 on Thursday and arranged to meet at my hotel at 7:00. She was actually early! That has never happened to me. In fact, I am still waiting for the girl I called Tuesday night in Bangkok to show up. Obviously she was too drunk to find the hotel.

Anyway, Sandra and I had a blast Thursday night again. Had dinner together, watched some TV (her English was PERFECT). Repeated everything from the night before. Great, great BBBJ. She even gave me the scoop on how many guys the better looking girls have sex with each night. She said it is usually about 3 ST per night. When everyone was in to watch the Rugby championships a few months ago, her friend was doing 7 ST a night. She said she hurt like hell in the morning. I wonder why. LOL

Anyway, I would recommend Sandra from the Philippines to anyone in HK. Lots of fun a great in the sack.

Strike1
12-14-07, 16:39
When I visited China many of the hotels have ladies in the lobby or bar areas. Does anyone here know if the same is true for places like the Peninsula in Kowloon or if that is simple not going to happen there? What about the Sheraton across the street. It would be nice to find something nice in Kowloon and not have to go to Wan Chai or other areas.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Johnny Rocket
12-14-07, 21:12
Back in HK after several business trips and eager to get going and get reporting!

Already been to 37D. Avoid Bo Yee. Not very enthusiastic for a 37D girl, and didn't seem to enjoy it so much. Wanted to hurry. Unusual for 37D. I should have chosen Ah Mei, who was making eyes at me during the selection process. I'll try to find her again and report.

Anyone know of a YS where I can get Flippers/Malays? Been a while since I had a Flipper but I hate the rigamarole of the WC bars. I want to fuck, pay and leave.

Thanks guys!

Timewaster
12-15-07, 01:17
Heading to HK next week.

Do you get a lineup and choose the girl you want at 37D?

Gren62
12-15-07, 07:53
Heading to HK next week.

Do you get a lineup and choose the girl you want at 37D?They'll send in one girl at time to sit and chat with you. Then it's up to you to decide which you prefer. The last time I was there, it was a busy night and they only had one girl available for me. The manager was very honest and said if I wasn't comfortable with not having a choice, he'd understand. I went with the only unoccupied girl at the time and she was great. Young, sweet, and eager to please. Thanks to everyone on this forum for the tips.

Daddy San
12-15-07, 13:15
As a tourist, can you buy Prepaid SIMs in Hong Kong for cash, i.e. without a local bank account or local address?

What are the denominations?

How much is a local call to a mobile?

Where are the SIM sold?

Reason for asking is, that in some countries in Europe, one needs a bank account and an address, in order to purchase the first one, i.e. the phone number. (Before someone flames me, I do know that there are workarounds, but they are bothersome)

JackTheLad2
12-15-07, 14:52
Anyway, I would recommend Sandra from the Philippines to anyone in HK. Lots of fun a great in the sack.[/QUOTE]

By any chance does she spell her name "Zandra" as well as "Sandra" as I had met a girl with this name on the Friday before you and had a fantastic time but in the morning the enthusiasm had waned quite a bit. I had met her last March also when in HK and had kept in touch with her. She also used the name "Alexandra"

JackTheLad2
12-15-07, 17:09
I have already written a few comments earlier, some of which have drawn comment. First of all advertising is allowed as far as I can see - look, for example, at the UK forum and it is full of adverts. Today in a report, the famous LadyMarmalade parties get a mention. All I was trying to say was that an agent thought it was a good idea if a punter wanted a girl - she looks after/organises 10 of them - if they contacted her she would fix up a meeting. The cost would be purely between the punter and the girl. In HK this would be in the region of HK$1000 LT. As for not telling the girls about ISG site - it is in the public domain and I know many even contribute. Anyway we agree to disagree on this.
I arrived Thursday 6th December via Dubai from the UK. Straight to hotel in Kowloon, shower, change and make my way to Fenwicks. When over in March I met a girl Sandra, had a great time with her and kept in touch by e-mail. She arrived on the same day from the Phil and had indicated she wanted to stay with me for the week at my hotel. No problem about this but this would tie me down I thought, so I arranged to meet her at Fenwicks. This we duly did and had a few drinks and then returned to the hotel. Suffice to say nothing was a problem - all positions, GFE, mish, DATY, doggie, etc but I detected in the morning somewhat less enthusiasm so I thought no way is she staying for a week. Parted with the agreed $1000 and a promise I would see her later. Surprisingly she did not mention staying at the hotel. Had a look round the 141 places in the afternoon. There was a building round the corner (New Lucky House) that had about 30 girls listed. Never been to one before but took the advice of the forum, went up to the top floor and made my way down. Plenty of signs on the doors so you can't go wrong. Although on my own I felt reasonably safe and a few punters were about who were quite chatty and showed me where to go. I rang several bells (door ones that is) and spoke to a few girls although communication was difficult as none speak English. I had a list with me of the girls but the list did not correspond to the girl in the flat many times. Quality overall varied from 4 - 7 but not too bad.

Made my way to Wan Chai later with a bunch of lads I was with. I like Fenwicks mainly because you can't fail there. I'm not one for making the first move normally because in Fenwicks, stand for 10 seconds at the bar near the back door and you will be approached, Nothing surer. You then decide yes or no. However I still had an arrangment to meet Sandra in Tunes so I went over there. Lo and behold she gas a punter. Relief to me and all I get from her was the cold shoulder. Ironically I knew the girl sitting right next to her (Joy) from a previous visit to HK and was tempted but decided to see what else was on offer. Back to Fenwicks. There she is a the bar, on her own. An 8.5 in my book (I am a hard marker). This time I unusually make a move with the time honored "Hi". Quiet response but started to chat and I bought her a drink. Things started to get better and I suggested a walk round to Galaxy which is much quieter and has a great band. She agrees and when I get there I am greeted like a long lost friend by the Manager who remembered me from earlier in the year. This impresses madam. Even more when I am shown to a seat where one of my friends has met a young lady. A round of free drinks are put up by the bar (it shows to frequent a place pays dividends now and again). Come the bewitching hour I ask Renzie (her name) if she would like to come back to my hotel. No problem. I always say "How much is this going to cost me?" She asks how much do I want to pay. I say HK$1000 LT and she agrees. Off we all go. I tell you guys this was unbelievable. Everything you could wish for and more. For me, you also must get GFE otherwise something is missing. I certainly got it. Interestingly she has to return to Phil the next day because her visa runs out. She added she never goes for less that $2000 and she always gets it. She never goes with Asians or blacks (please - I am not a racist, just reporting the facts) and she can make plenty in drinks. During the rugby sevens she and others can make $1000 a night. Many choose to do this and don't have tpo go with punters for sex. The best payers are Germans and English. One German punter gave her $7000 for one night! When I asked why she only took $1000 from me, she said she liked me, I had bought her a couple of drinks and was "nice" to her. There you go. I'm sorry she is not going to be there the next night but we exchange e-mail addresses and off she goes.
Don't worry guys - things get better as you will see in the next report which included LE raids in Fenwicks and Galaxy.

Tiger 888
12-16-07, 00:45
As a tourist, can you buy Prepaid SIMs in Hong Kong for cash, i.e. without a local bank account or local address?

What are the denominations?

How much is a local call to a mobile?

Where are the SIM sold?

Reason for asking is, that in some countries in Europe, one needs a bank account and an address, in order to purchase the first one, i.e. the phone number. (Before someone flames me, I do know that there are workarounds, but they are bothersome)After the excellent report from Jackthelad2 I almost don't want to answer a general question not to spoil the atmosphere, but here we go: In HK all you need is a 7/11 and the fees are so low that there is no need to mention it.

Traveler1234
12-16-07, 02:14
As a tourist, can you buy Prepaid SIMs in Hong Kong for cash, i.e. without a local bank account or local address?

What are the denominations?

How much is a local call to a mobile?

Where are the SIM sold?


Saw your posts splattered through Asia - go to prepaidgsm.net for complete (but not updated) list of providers and general cost.

Thailand, HK, China, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Taiwan - need a passport in some cases but most times just cash will do. I've got one for each country, almost all are pre-paid and as long as they're topped off, will last 6-12 months (except Malaysia, needs quarterly top offs).

Benjao
12-16-07, 03:11
Hi guys,

Just wondering where would be the best place in hk to go during the day to find a hot filipina,thai,or indonesian girl to spend the afternoon with?

Any phone number or reference for me?

Tiger 888
12-16-07, 08:27
Hi guys,

Just wondering where would be the best place in hk to go during the day to find a hot filipina,thai,or indonesian girl to spend the afternoon with?

Any phone number or reference for me?If you had read the forum a bit you would know that they only have sundays off. Since it is abit too late now (Already 3:30pm) I don't expect you to read and get there too late. Head for Laguna or New Makati in Wan Chai right now and you are in the middle of the action. (Don't search for it, go and ask someone for directions once there). They start returning home around 6 pm.

Whomer
12-16-07, 11:43
I'm just now in Hong Kong and -totally unscheduled- have a free evening.
If anybody is in HKG right now and wants to join me for happy mongering please give me a PM. Will leave my hotel in Mongkok in 45 mins.

whomer

Benjao
12-16-07, 16:03
Sorry but I was talikng about week day as I cannot be there on week end.

JackTheLad2
12-16-07, 16:50
I must keep a note of what I do, who I do and where I go as I have lost a day in my HK travels – Saturday. There is no way I was resting so I have not a clue what happened – must have been good.

Paid a visit to Galaxy in Sunday afternoon for a quiet beer. This place is usually quiet but you could hardly get near it. Hundreds of young Indonesians having an absolute ball. The oldest looked about 12 but obviously must have been older. Average height was well under 5 feet. Most in the 1-2 category and that is being kind. Dress sense was non existent, but were they enjoying themselves. As for mongering, forget it. Laguna has to be a better place.

At night returned about 11pm. Place was dead. 15 people in it –, 3 men and 12 women. I had just looked in Fenwicks and it was not much better. My mate has a theory that 4 in 5 girls go home at night with nobody – he could be right. Fenwicks in particular always seems to have more girls than men, IMHO, with the same ration in Tunes.
Anyway this girl comes up and says “Good evening Sir, my name is “F…”. How are you today” Words that were to change for me the next five days in HK. Starts chatting the usual crap and I asked her age. I always ask – there is no way I am going to be caught with someone at or near the minimum age. More than often they say “what age do you think I am? I reply (taking the obligatory 4/5 years off what you really think) about 22. She laughs and says 38. I don’t believe her, tell her so and out comes the passport. Sure enough – born in 1969.
Cutting out all the bullshit, she agrees to come back to my hotel for my $1000 LT limit.
What a night – probably the best ever. Starts with the combined shower and I know I have won a watch. Everything you could ask for except anal which I am not really into anyway. GFE in spades, kissing, DATY, mish, doggy, cowgirl – the lot. Wakes me at 6am for more and again at about 9.00am. I’m totally bushed. Thank god for help from Vit V. Before each session she is in showering making sure she is clean. We shower again in the morning. She even put the toothpaste on my brush and fills the tumbler with water. My wife had not done that ever in 35 years. She even insists on drying me first.
Not one for letting such a prize get away we arrange to meet the following night. Took her to Dusk till Dawn for a change because of the great bands there. Was in Fenwicks for a short time just as it got raided but the LE were only looking at the passports. Men were not even bothered by them. The dogs were obviously looking for drugs. We then paid a visit to Galaxy, her favourite place. Would you believe – raided but again no problem for men. Back to the hotel – not the same level of performance – better. I am starting to get hooked. And so it continued until I left at midnight on Thursday. We started of with an early meal in an Italian restaurant in Knutsford Terr. By this time I have given her a room key. She changed in the room and I can only say she looked stunning. After the meal back to the hotel for our last session before being picked up at 10.00pm. The night was only “spoiled” by the tears from her about me leaving.

I have read many stories in the various forums about guys that get hooked on the girls,. I’m not daft – I know they are interested in one thing only – your money. I will concede they are very good at disguising this undisputed fact, however. I parted with $5000 over the few days with “F….”. On the last two occasions she did not want the money and I had to insist on her taking it. She has 2 children back in Manila and has no alternative but to do what she does. I was the 1st guy she had sex with in 4 weeks. Normally she makes enough from the drinks in the bar to avoid having sex – no less that $500 per night which she wires home the next day – she showed me a pile of the white Western credit pay in slips. Another thing in my favour is that she, and the others, prefer older men. What I have learned over the years is that in their culture and in some others, age does not play a part as it does in Western socities.

Can you fall for them? Its difficult not to get emotionally involved, particularly when you seem to have struck a chord with them. Some of the past reports from guys that have become smitten are heart rendering. Before I leave she gives me her e-mail address and a small gift. On the way to the airport I get 2 texts from her and since my return home 2 e-mails and a phone call. She is missing me. No wonder guys fall for them. My experiences indicate a servile type nature. She insisted in doing everything for me – even folded my socks and put them away. She handed me my napkin in the restaurant and wiped my lips when needed. She caught me taking medicine one morning, was inquisitive as to why and even in her e-mails is reminding me to take it! I ask you. As a side issue, in the same restaurant there were 4 other couples having a meal at the same time. Everyone was an older guy with a young flipper.

I am returning in February – what’s the bets she will be waiting for me?

I have always held the view that you have to treat them with respect, Be nice to them and they will be nice to you. They are vulnerable people with really nothing much to live for. My “F….” was married and lived in Tokyo for 10 years. When she had her 2nd child the husband bombed her out and she had to return to Phil to live with her parents. No contact since, nor any money.

In between times during the day, my mate and I paid a visit to one of the many MSP's in Temple street. In the second I went for the HJ. A pretty young Chinese girl with the smallest of mini skirts gave me a good massage, allowing me to have my hand up and down her leg and all over the place the whole time. When it came to a finish, I was all over her pussy, backside and tits. All for $250.
Can’t be bad.

Roll on February.

Wild Child 1
12-17-07, 00:13
Been a while since I have been to Hong Kong, although the forum helped me a lot a few years back when I ended up staying in HK for 6 weeks and I still have the filipino "Hellllo Sirrrrrr" ringing in my ears :)

Having read through the forum and got lots of updated info, I wonder if I can ask for a bit of advice for a planned trip in 2 weeks time with 3 clients who have never been to HK and ones that I have promised the best time of their life.

a, Absolute best Sauna/Bath House in HK (I read Jordan / K Pressure / 37 Dundas) however is there anything mind mind blowing in terms of decor, service and experience.

b, KTVs , my favourite and only 1 I have been to is New Paris Club, and I am quite happy with what 1 gets there in terms of quality and service, in face I have kinda dated 2 of the girls from there in the past, however reading between the lines in the forum I sense that there are some better places for Chinese Big Spenders (I am NOT chinese but speak Mandarin so usually have no probs getting into ChinaMan only places)

And I apologise if it sounds like all I wanna do is blow money, far from it, just quite happy to look after these guys as they enjoy the finer things in life just like the rest of us ...

I shall be taking em on the usual crawl in WanChai just for the sheer fun of it, but seriously the Filipino squeeky voice and Hello Sir is still ringing in my ears

Thanks in Advance

Tiger 888
12-17-07, 01:25
Been a while since I have been to Hong Kong, although the forum helped me a lot a few years back when I ended up staying in HK for 6 weeks and I still have the filipino "Hellllo Sirrrrrr" ringing in my ears :)

Having read through the forum and got lots of updated info, I wonder if I can ask for a bit of advice for a planned trip in 2 weeks time with 3 clients who have never been to HK and ones that I have promised the best time of their life.

a, Absolute best Sauna/Bath House in HK (I read Jordan / K Pressure / 37 Dundas) however is there anything mind mind blowing in terms of decor, service and experience.

b, KTVs , my favourite and only 1 I have been to is New Paris Club, and I am quite happy with what 1 gets there in terms of quality and service, in face I have kinda dated 2 of the girls from there in the past, however reading between the lines in the forum I sense that there are some better places for Chinese Big Spenders (I am NOT chinese but speak Mandarin so usually have no probs getting into ChinaMan only places)

And I apologise if it sounds like all I wanna do is blow money, far from it, just quite happy to look after these guys as they enjoy the finer things in life just like the rest of us ...

I shall be taking em on the usual crawl in WanChai just for the sheer fun of it, but seriously the Filipino squeeky voice and Hello Sir is still ringing in my ears

Thanks in Advance
If you have promised them to have the time of their life, want it affordable and don't want to get messed up in China, I suggest that you take an evening in Macau. It's a bit over an hour's boat ride with boats running 24 hours, from 7am to 1:30 am almost every 15 minutes. And in Macau itself everything is reachable within minutes.

You can buy packages that include Sauna or KTV and the ticket fare. See the Macau thread for details.

Neuromancer
12-17-07, 05:44
If you have promised them to have the time of their life, want it affordable and don't want to get messed up in China, I suggest that you take an evening in Macau. It's a bit over an hour's boat ride with boats running 24 hours, from 7am to 1:30 am almost every 15 minutes. And in Macau itself everything is reachable within minutes.

You can buy packages that include Sauna or KTV and the ticket fare. See the Macau thread for details.I would concur. If you're looking for the "bling-bling" factor, you can get far more in terms of service/quality by going to Macau or Dongguan without necessarily paying that much more.

Sauna's in Macau are FAR better than anything you can find in HK. While New Paris KTV is decent, the one's which I've been to in DG put it to shame (never been to a Macau KTV).

HK for me is more about convenience. Can't be running over to Macau or DG all the time, do it more as a personal treat. If you must stay in HK, then I personally prefer Ocean King in North Point (sauna).

Wild Child 1
12-17-07, 06:55
If you have promised them to have the time of their life, want it affordable and don't want to get messed up in China, I suggest that you take an evening in Macau. It's a bit over an hour's boat ride with boats running 24 hours, from 7am to 1:30 am almost every 15 minutes. And in Macau itself everything is reachable within minutes.

You can buy packages that include Sauna or KTV and the ticket fare. See the Macau thread for details.

Tiger 888

Macau is defo on the agenda, and I have been reading up there and seems like 18 or RIO are the places to go, along with a visit to Darlings and possibly 1 of the clubs, or am I missing something.

Their tour is Shanghai, Hong Kong and Macau ...

Peter Eastwest
12-17-07, 10:19
On one of the evenings I was in Fennies last week I saw an old guy come in with an entourage of young "heavies" surrounding him. He looked like some kind of Chicago Mafia boss. Smart casual and VERY expensive-looking

The staff all seemend to know him and fawned around him. He took a drink and eyed the girls up and down and spoke to a couple of them - all south Americans. They seemed to know him. Suddenly they left as quick as they arrived but I did not see any girls leave with them.

A guy sitting beside me at the bar said he was the Saudi head of delegation or consul or something and that he is coming into such bars regularly.

Surprizing that such person woud come to a girlie bar but I suppose the urge is strong whoever you are.

Back in US of A now and missing Asia, like I always do. Happy days. (Back in February for more fun, though. I can't wait.)

PE

Xdentx
12-17-07, 11:38
I had some interesting conversations with two Philippina ladies which I employed long time from the Wan Chai district bars regarding the agent/manager situation. Our conversations extended over a period of a couple of days. Initially they were reluctant to talk about how this system worked, but ultimately warmed to the topic and shared some interesting information. This report is based solely on information these two provided...independently of each other. I will comingle the two accounts to create a composite.

Girls who live in the Philippines, but are not necessarily WL there, find an "agent/manager" there by networking. The managers buy the girls a round trip plane ticket to Hong Kong. The agent/manager travels frequently between the Philippines and Hong Kong, usually escorting the new girls to HK. In this case the agent is a female. The new girls are expected to pay back the agent $4000 HK for their plane ticket. They pay $50 HK per day directly to the flat owners for their room. These two girls decribed very similar flats in Wan Chai which consisted of two bedrooms and a "salon" (living room). Currently there are 15 girls living in each place. The owners of the flat, a married couple, use one bedroom. The girls, who don't get employed overnight, have to share the remaining space. Multiple bunkbeds are provided. Gnerally, two girls share one mattress with a total of four per bunk. There is only one bathroom with a shower for the girls. The girl telling the story laughed as she told me that sometimes 3 of the girls have to shower together because they're all going out around the same time in the evening. Everyone keeps their belongings and earnings in a locked suitcase. Alternatively they keep their earnings in their purse, which they carry with them at all times...even to the bathroom.

The agent or manager runs the place and tells the girls when to get showered, dressed, and out. The girls are expected to pay the agent half of their earnings daily, until the $4000 HK is paid off. Once the debt is paid, the girls become "freelancers". The girls are also responsible for buying their own food. The agent keeps close tabs on the girls who owe money for their ticket (which the agent holds). The girls are allowed to keep their own passports. The agent wants to make sure that she gets her 50% before the girl spends the money on herself or sends it home. The agent knows, of course, who had an "overnight". During my morning sightseeing with my "date", the agent called her literally five times to ask/tell her to bring home the money.
Once a girl has paid off the $4000 "ticket" the agent no longer keeps close tabs on her. Of the 15 girls, the 3 most experienced might do 4 short times per night. The less experienced/attractive girls might not have any work for 4 days.

There are always girls coming and going, due to the 14 day visa requirement. In this case, the agent/manager is close friends with the ticket agent. The manager leaves someone in charge to oversee the operation when she has to return to the Philippines. I got the impression that this one agent always ran just the one operation and oversaw the one house. BTW, "guest" has now replaced the term "john".

One of these two girls was on her second visit to HK. She told me that she is not a working girl at home, but that her family borrowed money to help her get to Hong Kong. She laughed with embarisment when she confessed that she did not make enough to repay the debt. So now she was on her second tour, but this time with a manager. And still struggling to pay back the ticket.

Timewaster
12-18-07, 00:05
Heading to HK next week.

I vaguely remember reading that 37Dundas has 2 floors with 2 different owners.

Which is the recommended floor?

Le Licheur
12-18-07, 03:07
The info on this board helped me prepare for my visit to HK and now I’ll try to share some info that I hope will help someone down the line.

Before I forget, thanks to my boss too for sending me on an Asian expedition and footing the bill for my “work”. I managed to get in a few meetings in between other activities so I think the new business will cover the expenses.

This was my first time chasing the beautiful women of HK and after considering the options, I was willing to spend a few extra dollars. I don’t mean I was willing to overpay (I hope I didn't) but I was prepared to expand my budget if I had to in order to enjoy myself. I considered a lot of options including the walk-up 141’s. I phoned one who hung up on me I suppose because I couldn’t communicate with her. I was also on the verge of visiting another one when I read a not so flattering report on her which made me decide not to go.

In the end, I relied on the info I got from reading this forum and on another HK board but there is one piece of info in particular that caught my eye. I was inspired by Rick Hunter’s notes about the clubs in East TST http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=421850&postcount=2838 so I made that my first stop. There are a few clubs near the Hilton Tower area and I assume they all offer similar services.

I found a club that seemed like a good place to start. I walked in, was greeted by at least 3 women who passed me on from one to the other until I found myself in a room and was told that the terms would be explained to me with no obligation. The papa came in and did the explaining and asked if he could suggest a girl. I said sure.

It cost me very close to what Rick said it would. The damage was $550 to the house to start with. Basically, this is to meet the girl and pick one you like. If you decide to take the girl out, it’s another $550 to the house. The papasan told me that the going rate for the girls is $1500 for one hour but the girl I picked told me she would stay with me for 3 hours which again is bang on with what Rick had said. I picked the first one I saw (Jen 23 yr old b cup, about 5’3” and 100 lbs). She looked pretty good and had her tongue in my mouth before the papa left us alone in the “meeting room” so how could I not stick with her?

I took her back to my hotel. I won’t go into a whole lot of detail about the session itself since we all have our own opinions and preferences about what is good and what is not. I will say that she seemed to enjoy it and I know I did. Lots of dfk and dined at the Y. The total damage was $2600 for 3 hours. I know it’s possible to get laid for a lot less but at least this option gives you a good idea of what you’re going to get before you buy and she was just like a real gf. Works for me!

But there is more. She asked how long I was in town for and when she found out I was here for a few days, she offered her phone number. I told her I was going to Macau while here so she asked if I would like her to come along on her day off. How much I asked? She said “I come to your hotel in morning, make love, stay with you all day, come back to hotel, make love some more. $2000 for whole day, ok?” I figured since I had spent $2600 for around 3 hours, $2000 was ok for the whole day.

She came to the hotel at 7:30 AM and we started the day off with another roll in the sack before leaving. She took charge at the ferry terminal, got the tickets, got me through the lineups and then through customs, showed me around Macau and took good care of me, even making sure that I got some HK dollars back for Macau dollars that a cabby had given me.

When we returned, she took me to her favorite restaurant for dinner and then came back to the hotel and stayed with me until 10 PM. She was very friendly throughout, always smiling, cuddling, leaning her head on my shoulder and sneaking the occasional kiss. She had me thinking she liked me but I think it’s more likely she enjoys being with men in general. Her English was not good but we got along well anyway.

She acted like a real gf. I hadn’t been looked after like this for a long time. I don’t know how she did it. When we were eating, she would always make sure I had something on my plate. Seems she was thinking of me more than herself.

The only negative was that she didn’t give me a bj but everything else was good enough that I didn’t mind. Then again, I suppose even some real gf’s don’t give bj’s! I didn’t push it. She said she would if I saw her again. Don’t they all say that? She offered to call me the next day after work but even though I enjoyed my time with her, I declined. I wanted to sample some other delicacies.

As a side note, I hit it off with the cabbie who took me to this club area. He had spent quite a bit of time in the US so he spoke decent English. Since this club area is not far from Mongkok, the driver offered to show me some of the spots in that area. I can’t remember the street names but the area he showed me was full of massage parlors, saunas and those purple sign places I read about on this forum. For a while, I was tempted to change my mind and try one of these places but decided to stick to my original plan.

All in all, I’m happy with what I got and I want to thank Rick again for his info which worked out real well for me. If I remember right, he even offered the notes about the clubs without being prodded. It’s a relief to those of us who don’t have as much experience to occasionally have notes offered freely instead of always being told to RTFF. If not for Rick’s notes, this would likely not have been an option for me!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Beijing Lover
12-19-07, 05:46
Pinays await verdict in HK on trafficking charge
SMILEY D. JULVE, GMANews.TV

12/18/2007 | 09:30 PM

Being on trial appears to have taken its toll on a Filipina accused of trafficking persons into Hong Kong. As Angelita David took the witness stand on the ninth day of hearing the case, she all but admitted the charges against her.

David is jointly charged with Jennifer N. Balibat, or Nicki, with two counts of trafficking persons into Hong Kong for the purpose of prostitution and five counts each of aiding and abetting the alleged victims to work here without valid employment visas.

David, who was referred to in court as Ampy, agreed during the cross examination of the prosecution on Dec. 13 at the District Court in Wan Chai that her role was to look for girls to work in Hong Kong which meant getting commissions from customer’s drinks and if they chose to, earn money from sex.

“Sariling diskarte na nila iyon. I didn’t tell them directly that they have to do that [have sex]."

Because of this, her defense counsel Peter Chow didn’t bother to challenge the credibility and reliability of the prosecution witnesses which relate to the aiding and abetting charges.

“Had D2 (David) told me the whole story like what she testified in court, I would not have spent so much time in cross-examining any of the PWs [prosecution witnesses] and I would have advised her to plead guilty to at least charges 3-7," he said.

But Chow submitted that the prosecution didn’t get its charge right.

This is not the case of trafficking persons for the purpose of prostitution, he said, but for fraud because of the inducement to repay the loan.

“In fact, they don’t need to find customers for sex… just drinks. They could make $1,000 a night in 12 to 14 days to repay the loan." He submitted that they would even have pocket money from their earnings.

“Prostitution was mentioned only as an option," said Chow. “In order to convict D2, the prosecution must prove beyond reasonable doubt that D2 did some act or acts to enable that these girls could work as prostitutes."

Such an act, he said for example, was introducing the girls to potential customers.

He submitted that the real intention of the defendants was for the girls to buy air tickets from them on credit and profit from it. In promoting the air tickets, the defendants “might have painted a rosy picture for them" on ways to earn in Hong Kong.

But since they couldn’t find any customers, he said, “The girls felt cheated."

Edward Laskey for the prosecution replied that it is not whether prostitution takes place, but the fact that the girls were brought to Hong Kong for that purpose is enough to find the defendants guilty. “It shall not be a defense… that the other person consented."

Five alleged victims took to stand and corroborated the story on how a certain person named Loida in the Philippines, Ampy, and Nicki were in a joint enterprise to recruit them into Hong Kong as “entertainers… to work as prostitutes." They were told to pay Php60,000 for their ticket, food, and hotel accommodations which the girls should pay by installment once they get to Hong Kong. They weren’t given food, nor did they stay in a hotel. Their one-way tickets only cost $800 apiece.

Laskey said that “it had to be pre-arranged" and it was Nicki’s role to guide the girls from the airport and make necessary accommodations. He told the court to “draw inference from that," and added, “D1 exactly knew what was going on."

In a briefing in the Philippines, Laskey said, “They were being enticed… but it was much untrue." The sweetness was used as a bait, he said. “When they come here, the situation is different… The reality either way is to work in clubs by drinks… then sex afterwards with customers."

“The divider between drinks and sex is unrealistic. Drinks were prelude to sex," claimed Laskey and submitted that this was not clearly mentioned in the briefing.

Meanwhile, the counsel for Nicki, Gordon Wong, crushed the testimonies of each witnesses and said, “The fact that they failed to mention these to the police… significantly affect their credibility."

It was not contested that Nicki picked up the girls at the airport, but Wong submitted that Nicki never briefed the girls on how to choose customers, asked them for repayment of their loans saying she lost money on buying their tickets, or threatened them by saying “send you to prison if you do not pay."

The question to be answered, he said, was whether Nicki knew that the girls were coming here as prostitutes. “Had she known, would she have rendered her assistance?"

He also went on to say that the court should be skeptical in assessing statements made by Ampy who pointed Nicki as the mastermind and said, “Clearly, D2 has her own purpose to serve."

The verdict will be out on Thursday, Dec. 20.

Le Licheur
12-19-07, 06:18
This is my second hotel girl. If you saw my previous post about "Sexy", you’ll know that the first one didn’t work out well but this one went quite well.

I called another TST hotel girl from the 141 site, this one goes by the name of LG. Her ad says she is 5’5" and speaks English. The girl who showed up was maybe 5’2" and she understood a little bit but couldn’t speak a word of English. She also had a tattoo of a rose between her belly and her puss and the LG on the ad does not. But she was a nice little package so I didn't complain. Don't know her name so I call her LG's pinch hitter! I'll post a photo in case someone runs into her.

I think she was quite pretty with a nice spinner figure. I’d say 5’2" 90 lbs. Skill level was so so and I think she needs to work on her BJ technique and she did not provide dfk but all in all, I was happy with her.

I asked her name and she showed me the case which held her mobile phone and it had the initials LG on it. She laughed, which led me to believe that there must be a few girls working this LG name game. When the papa called my hotel back to confirm, the hotel operator identified the caller as someone from LG company.

This girl was a little shy but still a lot friendlier than my first hotel girl. She gave me a hug when she came in, spun herself around and said ok? I think she was asking me if I thought she was ok! Yes! We fooled around for a little bit before jumping in the shower together. She washed me good and let me wash her and play a little with her pussy too. Her tits were "enhanced" (but not as big as the girl in the ad) and sensitive with nice nips that stood at attention. She gave me a few kisses but no dfk. What made my day, or night, was she was tight. I mean nice and tight but she took it like a real trouper. No fake moans here! She held on tight when I was giving it to her and she was really good at using her pussy muscles to squeeze my dick. Felt great! In the end, she was quite willing to let me splash all over her tits.

Damage was $1000. The advertised price was $700 (for LG) and the papa said another $200 for the cab to my hotel. Before she left, she was saying something that I couldn’t understand but then I realized she wanted another $100. I took the opportunity to ask for a photo. She agreed so I gave her the extra $100.

Conclusion: Not the same as the advertised LG but I think she’s pretty nice so I ain’t complaining! Had fun with her even tho we could not understand each other very well. I think if someone wanted to spend some time with this girl, she could be a real gem. Soooooooo tight! Problem is, I wouldn’t know how to get her again. If I called the number, the real LG might show up! Photo coming up in photo section.

Le Licheur
12-19-07, 06:44
Name: Yupi
East TST street girl 20 y/o is what she said
Related Link in 141: sorry, no link for this one
Face: 3.75/5 no raving beauty but cute, all depends what you like
Body Shape: 4/5 if you like spinners, maybe 5’ tall and 90 lbs tops, small tits but nice nipples
Skill: 3.75/5 had such a good time, I’m tempted to give her higher but realistically, this is probably fair
Service: 5/5 willing partner, tight pussy, bbbj, dfk, massage after the deed, what else can a man ask for?

Got a call tonight from the girl I took to Macau earlier in the week. She wanted to come over in the morning and stay the day (and night) but I didn’t want to commit right away. Told her I had something to do during the day but I might call her in the evening.

I went back to the club area I had been to earlier in the week in East TST with the intention of going into one of the clubs again. The cabby dropped me off in a different place but I think I recognized one of the clubs I had seen before so I thought I was in the right area. I don’t know what it’s called but there is a section that is sort of like a small park or pedestrian mall. I remember seeing a large sign for the Hilton Tower last time and I was looking for that again but couldn’t see it. Looks like the kind of place people go to hang out. Some were sitting outdoors having dinner, some just walking around.

I was walking around too, trying to find the place I had been to earlier in the week. At one point, I slowed down to look around to get my bearings when this woman approached me and asked me if I wanted a girl. I looked at her and thought no thanks but then I realized she was the mama. Turns out she had at least 2 girls. That’s all I saw. I didn’t care for the first one but the second one kind of caught my eye. I have this thing for the petite types and she fit the bill. She looked kind of cute too and I was trying to get a better look at her while listening to what the mama had to say. The more the mama talked, the more interested I became in this little cutie. Her name was Yupi and she said she was 20 yrs old. The mama wanted the money then and there. I said no way, I pay after. We went back and forth and finally she agreed. We found a cab and it was off to the hotel.

When we got to the hotel, Yupi seemed to balk at something and I realized she wanted the money. I said no way, the mama agreed I would pay after. I had a hard time explaining this to her but finally, she called the mama. I got on the phone with her and we “discussed” this matter. Mama argued that later meant when I got to the hotel with the girl. My position was that later meant when the girl went home. Finally, I told her that I was paying after the deed and that was it, all the while thinking she would insist on payment up front. Yupi hung up the phone and said ok, let’s have a shower.

She took good care of my jewels in the shower and I reciprocated by giving her a good scrub too. After a few minutes in there, we moved to the bed and the fun continued. This little thing was a real treat. She gave me a bbbj and although I can’t say it was a great one, she did her best and she looked like she was enjoying it too. I fully intended on eating her puss until I realized that she had juiced it up with lubricant. I got the towel out and cleaned it off and then fingered her until she got all wet. When she went to put the rubber on, I got my own and gave it to her. She grinned and said it was bigger than the one she was going to use.

We had a pretty good session. Well I thought so anyway and I think she did too judging from the look on face! This girl seemed to enjoy her “work”. She was a gamer for all the dfk I could handle, when she was on top and on the bottom! Her tits were just barely a handful but you can’t usually expect more with a small girl like her unless they’re fake. After the deed, she didn’t rush me to take my dick out. We just laid there hugging and kissing for a while. Then she went to clean up a bit and came back, cleaned me up and then she asked if I wanted a massage! Wow! Why not? She gave me a full massage for about 10 or 15 minutes. Holy geez, I wasn’t expecting that. Then more kissing and hugging.

I gave her the $1200 for 3 hours I had agreed on with the mama and an extra $300 for the massage, the cab back and a couple of photos although she was shy and did not want to show her face. Enjoyed myself so much I invited her back for another session the next day! The price might seem high but I really didn’t have much to compare it to. I was in an area full of clubs and I knew it cost me $2600 last time so I thought $1200 was ok for 3 hours and she turned out to be the best lay I’ve had since I’ve been here.

Conclusion: had to use the English/Mandarin dictionary to understand each other at least a few words but this was the most fun I’ve had since I got here, taught her how to say “fuck me” and have the mama’s number if anyone is interested, if you like spinners, I think you’d like this girl. She’s pretty sweet and seems to want to please. Treat her nice and she’ll do the same.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Le Licheur
12-19-07, 06:46
Knock, knock, knock! It’s 10 PM. I open the door and there’s Yupi. I had been napping while waiting for her so she took off her clothes and jumped in the shower. When we finished, we lay on the bed hugging and kissing. It was a continuation of the previous night.

We had another good session but for some reason, it wasn’t quite as good as the previous night. Maybe it was because she had pulled a fast one on her mammy and had booked a date on the side with me. The biggest difference is that after doing it all over the bed, I asked her if I could finish in her mouth. She smiled and gave me the ok so I pulled out and let her have it. It was obviously not the first time for her. She laid there with her mouth open and was sticking her tongue in and out until I came. Then she licked me good without rushing but eventually went to the washroom to spit it out.

Left me $1200 poorer but still a happy man. She seemed a bit disappointed with that since I had given her $1500 the previous night but I said no photos, no more. Besides, she didn’t have to share this with her mammy. In the end, she agreed and seemed to be happy. And so was I!

Rick Hunter
12-19-07, 07:31
All in all, I’m happy with what I got and I want to thank Rick again for his info which worked out real well for me. If I remember right, he even offered the notes about the clubs without being prodded. It’s a relief to those of us who don’t have as much experience to occasionally have notes offered freely instead of always being told to RTFF. If not for Rick’s notes, this would likely not have been an option for me!

My pleasure to help. I wrote the report you a refering to maybe 1 to 2 years ago to as it is a scene that is very prevalent in Hong Kong but not so easy for tourists to learn the ropes about in the short time they are usually in HK for.

Rick Hunter
12-19-07, 07:58
These two girls decribed very similar flats in Wan Chai which consisted of two bedrooms and a "salon" (living room). Currently there are 15 girls living in each place. The owners of the flat, a married couple, use one bedroom. The girls, who don't get employed overnight, have to share the remaining space. Multiple bunkbeds are provided. Gnerally, two girls share one mattress with a total of four per bunk. There is only one bathroom with a shower for the girls. The girl telling the story laughed as she told me that sometimes 3 of the girls have to shower together because they're all going out around the same time in the evening. Everyone keeps their belongings and earnings in a locked suitcase. Alternatively they keep their earnings in their purse, which they carry with them at all times...even to the bathroom.


I can confirm this as I had a rather unusual experience this week in that I visited one of these places first hand for the first time. I met up with a girl on Monday night at Laguna. I called her before hand to see where I could meet her. I have seen her a few times over the past 3 or 4 months. Normally we would have a drink and then go off to a short time hotel for two or three sessions over 2 hours. I always gave her $500 to help with her rent. She has insisted that she is not a working girl but simply in Hong Kong to find a real job, of which she does not consider the servitude of committing to being a maid a real job. Of course she has done the visa runs to China and going back to her country before coming back here when that runs out.

I have played along with her that she is not hooker as to answer her question in the affirmative when she asks me would be a huge loss of face for her. Last week we met up and we had a drink in a nice place in Causewaybay before having some fun. It just kind of worked out that I did not slip anything into her pocket as when we were having the drink before hand she wanted to make sure that I did not just meet her for sex (yeah I know). To let her save face I said of course not. Regardless when we were done it just did not work out well for me to pay her.

So back to this Monday. I met her at Laguna, bought myself a drink and regular, not ladies drinks for her and a couple of her friends. It was early and this helped give her face. After doing a bit of dancing we left. She wanted to go to her place which was fairly nearby. After trying to think if there was any reason why she would want to kill and not being able to think of any other than my clothes, shoes and watch I wearing were worth more than she would make in a few year I decided against my better judgment to agree to go to her place.

The flat was rather interesting. It was in a 20something story regular housing establishment in Wan Chai. (For those not from HK most people here live in abysmal housing conditions). This flat had a hallway maybe 3 feet wide at the most. As soon as you come inside there is a super tiny washroom in the flat to one side. Further down the hallway there is a ledge with two hotplate, almost impossible to squeeze past. Once you walk past the kitchen there were 5 bedrooms, two on each side and one at the end of the hall.

She unlocked her bedroom. It was a small room with just enough space for the door to open and a double bed. At the foot of the bed was a small TV, a small fridge and a few drawers to put clothes in. On the wall by the door were the pictures of the three girls sharing the bed each night. Taped on the door of a fridge was a calendar listing when people were coming and going, along with some court dates for one girl. (The story did not seem convincing to me but one girl sharing the room had been in jail for dealing a year or two back and some expat had held her laptop while she was in jail and would not give it back when she got out. She thus decided when she saw him in a bar to take a glass and smash it into his face).

The lady told me I was the first person she had brought back to her room, which I believe. We watched the evening news on Pearl, did the deed and then went out for a bite to eat after which I went home alone, even though she offered to come with me.

It was an interesting experience but not one that I think I shall repeat. It was yet another eye opening asian experience that helps me appreciate how lucky most of us have it in life.

I do need to let this lady down as I am beginning to feel that she views me as her knight in shining armor to let her live out a Cinderella dream. I have not really done anything to really justify such a dream but best to cut things off before problems develop.

J Lover
12-19-07, 08:22
Saw your posts splattered through Asia - go to prepaidgsm.net for complete (but not updated) list of providers and general cost.

Thailand, HK, China, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Taiwan - need a passport in some cases but most times just cash will do. I've got one for each country, almost all are pre-paid and as long as they're topped off, will last 6-12 months (except Malaysia, needs quarterly top offs).If someone asked me for a passport when buying a SIM, I'd tell them to suck an egg! In Vietnam, I bought mine at the airport, no questions or ID.

JackTheLad2
12-22-07, 13:02
in my report number 1340 dated 16th december i said:-

can you fall for them? its difficult not to get emotionally involved, particularly when you seem to have struck a chord with them. some of the past reports from guys that have become smitten are heart rendering. before i leave she gives me her e-mail address and a small gift. on the way to the airport i get 2 texts from her and since my return home 2 e-mails and a phone call. she is missing me. no wonder guys fall for them. my experiences indicate a servile type nature. she insisted in doing everything for me – even folded my socks and put them away. she handed me my napkin in the restaurant and wiped my lips when needed. she caught me taking medicine one morning, was inquisitive as to why and even in her e-mails is reminding me to take it! i ask you. as a side issue, in the same restaurant there were 4 other couples having a meal at the same time. everyone was an older guy with a young flipper.

i am returning in february – what’s the bets she will be waiting for me?

all bets are off.

following on my arrival back home e-mails, texts and phone calls continued. she missed me, she was longing for me. she loved me. crying for me to come back. "i miss you honey" reverbated around. "i will wait for you", "i don't want anothe man", "i keep myself for you".

then the "can you send some money so i can go home for christmas - i miss you honey". the warning bells peel out loudly. a short but polite "no" and the entire attidude changes. i am a proper bastard. the tone of her voice goes from a pleading, soft, loving, caressing gentle one to a bitter monotone with not a scrap of endearment.

luckily i have been through all this before so it is not the bitter pill it once was. nevertheless it is frustrating and i don't know how oftern i have said to myself "fuck and forget" rather than see the same person continually and inevitably become emotionally involved. having said that, i had the best 5 days ever with her but paid well for my enjoyment.

what do others think? fuck and forget?
at the end of the day they are like the number 9 bus, there is always another one coming.

Tiger 888
12-22-07, 15:30
What do others think? Fuck and forget?
At the end of the day they are like the number 9 bus, there is always another one coming.As I always said:
1. Find them before they find you,
2. Fuck them before they fuck you
3. Forget them before they forget you.

Thats the hard reality of life. The exceptions are so few and those falling for them so many.

JackTheLad2
12-22-07, 18:59
As I always said:
1. Find them before they find you,
2. Fuck them before they fuck you
3. Forget them before they forget you.

Thats the hard reality of life. The exceptions are so few and those falling for them so many.


Could not agree more Tiger, but it is still hard to take
Women in general are the same the world over but the flippers seem to excel in the con of making you believe you are the only one for them in the world. Don't get me wrong, we use them for our pleasures but they are good at what they do - you have to hand it to them. Over the years I have met many and had had prolonged contact vie e-mails and texts. It always invariably ends when they ask for money. I lose interest very quickly then. THey are pros in the true sense of the word.
Can't wait unti February when I return. HK is the best!

JackTheLad2
12-24-07, 20:23
I do need to let this lady down as I am beginning to feel that she views me as her knight in shining armor to let her live out a Cinderella dream. I have not really done anything to really justify such a dream but best to cut things off before problems develop.

Interesting story Rick. Tell me, you have seen her a few times over the past 3/4 months and you give her $500. She is not working. How does she survive for the rest of the time? Living in the circumstances you describe can only lead you to the conclusion she is making money in the same way as the other girls. The very fact that she goes to Laguna would seem to back this up. As you well know you don't go there for a quiet drink with friends. Not that I am saying she is sleeping around - she may well make her money from the drinks as I know a lot of them do.

As for being her knight in shining armour, what is wrong with this? You might be giving her hope and she certainly does not seem to be demanding of you. If you like her why not continue the way you are doing but gently explain there is no long term future for her in it. I am the right one to give out advice but sometimes it is easier to give out advice than it is to receive and react to it.

Rick Hunter
12-27-07, 02:45
Jack:

Of course she is a working girl I have been around long enough to know that. She just likes to "pretend" that she is not and I was fine to "pretend" along with her. The real story is of course she started out as a maid here in HK but being young and pretty discovered quite quickly that she did not like being a maid and could make more money selling herself. I do believe that she would like to find a "real" non maid job in Hong Kong but realistically that is not going to happen.

As for letting her think me her knight in shining armour - better to end it - I do not need the hassle. There are plenty other women around her. I do not want to lead her on too much in case she goes crazy at some point. I have been around long enough to know when it is better to just walk away.


Interesting story Rick. Tell me, you have seen her a few times over the past 3/4 months and you give her $500. She is not working. How does she survive for the rest of the time? Living in the circumstances you describe can only lead you to the conclusion she is making money in the same way as the other girls. The very fact that she goes to Laguna would seem to back this up. As you well know you don't go there for a quiet drink with friends. Not that I am saying she is sleeping around - she may well make her money from the drinks as I know a lot of them do.

As for being her knight in shining armour, what is wrong with this? You might be giving her hope and she certainly does not seem to be demanding of you. If you like her why not continue the way you are doing but gently explain there is no long term future for her in it. I am the right one to give out advice but sometimes it is easier to give out advice than it is to receive and react to it.

JackTheLad2
12-27-07, 15:54
i am returning in february – what’s the bets she will be waiting for me?

all bets are off.

following on my arrival back home e-mails, texts and phone calls continued. she missed me, she was longing for me. she loved me. crying for me to come back. "i miss you honey" reverbated around. "i will wait for you", "i don't want anothe man", "i keep myself for you".

then the "can you send some money so i can go home for christmas - i miss you honey". the warning bells peel out loudly. a short but polite "no" and the entire attidude changes. i am a proper bastard. the tone of her voice goes from a pleading, soft, loving, caressing gentle one to a bitter monotone with not a scrap of endearment.guess what readers - my girl is back. suddenly she misses me again and is longing to see me in february when i return.

should i?

should i ignore her?

should i tell her "f... off?"

or should i renew a visit to the best 5 days of sex i have ever had in a fairly long career, now assisted in no small way by vit v?

my heart says go for it. my mind says "plenty of other fish in the sea & variety is the spice of life". forget her.

what do the readers say?

Benjao
12-28-07, 09:43
Hi Brothers,

Where would be the best place to enjoy a week day afternoon and meet some filipino thai or indonesian girl to have some fun with?

Downundaman
12-28-07, 16:53
Hi,

Does anybody know if/where/how I find nice, affordable, shaved, young (20-25) girls in Hongkong when I stay only 2 nights?

Where does it happen? In my hotel room (unobtrusive) or in a club or so?

Thanks for your help,

D.

Johnny Rocket
12-28-07, 17:55
Guys,

There was a post about a girl named Anna or Enna at Flat #3, 1/F, Coronet Court, 323 Kings Road North Point, who gave the poster a really good time. I can't seem to find it now. Was it erased?

No matter, because I visited and had quite the opposite experience. No kiss, no BBBJ as the poster had said, no DATY allowed, and she hurried me after only a very short time.

I won't question what another poster said about his own experience, but YMMV.

Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket

Johnny Rocket
12-28-07, 18:03
Guys,

I visited 37D and was presented with 6 girls (!). Two I would have taken, and I chose Ga Yan. Am I ever glad I did!

First of all, the ST hotel where they take you was apparently full, which meant I got to sit in the karaoke room with her for about 15-20 minutes. I wish that happened more often, at least when the girl is very friendly, as Ga Yan was. We chatted for a while, DFK, I fingered her and she was really digging it. She was stroking my cock and even pulled it out a little but then came the knock at the door.

So we moved the proceedings up to the hotel and did the normal routine. Great BBBJ. She was very good at the sort of gentle, tickling ball massage that I like. She was into the DATY, but stopped me before I came. I figured maybe she was the type who liked to get off during fucking, and I was right. When she was on top she ground her clit into me and eventually had a very nice orgasm with a lot of muscle clenching.

We went CG, mish, corkscrew (lying down), doggy, back to CG, then back to mish for me to come. As usual I was still pounding away when the phone rang and I had to hurry it up. What are you going to do huh.

She had a great attitude and was very cute. I will repeat and I recommend her to you too. Treat her well.

Have fun and stay safe!
Johnny Rocket

Qiao Han
12-29-07, 08:54
Anybody having problems logging into ISG from China? I live in Shenzhen and it's suddenly blocked yesterday and again today. I've never had this problem before and I have no trouble getting to other sites, and I can still get to ISG through a proxy server

Is it just Shenzhen or is it just me?

QH

Shafted
12-30-07, 10:16
Anyone been to level 2 in 37 dundas?

Are they the same company, same routine etc?

Oliver 0205
12-30-07, 17:59
Hi,

Forget her. I think she wants to give it a second try to get money. She knows you will come again to HK and she knows / feels you like her. If you deny again to give her money she has the same situation like before. Nothing will change for her, but for you a lot if you once started to pay extra. I don't know how her business is when you are not in HK, maybe she just wants to make sure that in Feb. She has a time where an income is sure. Unfortunately we men fall sometimes in love during we have sex with a girl. I know what I am speaking about and I paid a lot.

Girls are much more clever. They look at you, the say the need and miss you and we feel like we have to protect this poor girl. The day after you are left she is looking in the same way to the next.

The above might not be true for 100%, but at least for 99.9%

Oliver


Guess what readers - my girl is back. Suddenly she misses me again and is longing to see me in February when I return.

Should I?

Should I ignore her?

Should I tell her "F... off?"

Or should I renew a visit to the best 5 days of sex I have ever had in a fairly long career, now assisted in no small way by Vit V?

My heart says go for it. My mind says "Plenty of other fish in the sea & variety is the spice of life". Forget her.

What do the readers say?

JackTheLad2
12-30-07, 20:22
quote "costomer come with me apoarch me and give drinks,you know he pretending costomer he is cid,police catch me on oct.26 at wan chai,i figth i say im not guilty but case must not be done if i say guilty they send me back on dec 5,but its became dec, 21 finish then i wait in imigation but holiday i buy my on tiket you know the last money of me i buy my own tiket to go back phil as soon as posible if not may be 2nd week of jan i came here,my suite case in my guest not with the owner of the canot contack hey im so so upset im cry everyday in jail my god its ver bad expirence..i feel that i die that time..if you have time call me i lost everything my things my money i just go home only my self..its ok important im back" quote


i have copied an e-mail i received today from a wg i befriended last year and who i met in galaxy in wan chai. she was a 7 in my book and was good fun under the sheets and worth a return visit. other than anal she was up for anything at hk $1000 lt. i lost touch for a while and tried to contact her before i visited hk earlier in the month. no wonder she did not reply| i have not heard of this approach by le before and maybe some of the regulars that frequent hk can comment. frankly, although i have not spoken to her yet, i have a feeling there is more to it than meets the eye. i don't think she was into drugs or anything else but you never know. i know she was up to speed on the validity of visas so i would rule this out. i was in fenwicks and galaxy this month when it was "visited" by le but they were only interested in the girl's visas and looking for drugs. males were not inconvenienced.

Tony Gables
12-30-07, 21:13
Hi,

Does anybody know if/where/how I find nice, affordable, shaved, young (20-25) girls in Hongkong when I stay only 2 nights?

Where does it happen? In my hotel room (unobtrusive) or in a club or so?

Thanks for your help,

D.There are quite a few places that you can find girls in HK. There's a place called Sticky Fingers behind the Royal Garden Hotel in Kawloon. Looks like a regular bar from the outside, but when you sit the girls will start approaching or stare at you from the other side of the room. They will come to your hotel room, they usually ask for 1000HKD but you can always bargain.

Or even when you're walking back to your hotel, some woman will approach you and ask if you want a girl. Tell her what you want and give her your room number. In 30 mins there will be a girl at your door, if you don't like her send her back and she will send you another one.

As you see, it's quite easy to get laid in HK.

Rick Hunter
12-31-07, 03:44
i have heard this story a few times recently that police are pretending to be customers and once they get the girl to the place the deed is supposed to occur in they arrest her for working in hk with out a visa. i have only heard this second hand, as in not from any girl who has been arrested, but i have heard it a number of times and i know the girls who have told me this were quite worried about it and asking whether i thought it was true. if this is happening it seems to be concentrated around neptunes and fenwicks.

to be honest i am not sure. there are very few white cops left in hk, and in all stories it was white cops arresting the girls. on the other hand in hk it would be legal for the cops to do what the girls are concerned about. also most stories seem to have occured between nov 15 - dec 15 so it could have been associated with a clean up before the holidays (similar to how there were massive clean ups of people selling fake goods) or the cops trying to appear they are doing something after all the negative press surrounding the two businessmen that od on heroin and all the stories about girls drugging guys being relayed in the press. i have not heard from any guys whether this has actually been happening or not. also rumors run like wildfire through wan chai so it can be hard sometimes to distinguish truth from rumor.

as for girls getting arrested. it does happen. i know a few girls how have been arrested, including one who seemed to think it was my duty to try and get her out. no way was i getting involved in that. i doubt your girl was lying about going to jail - it is not really the type of thing a bar girl lies about plus it would be really easy to verify. as an fyi close to 80% of the females in jail in hk are not hk chinese girls.


quote "costomer come with me apoarch me and give drinks,you know he pretending costomer he is cid,police catch me on oct.26 at wan chai,i figth i say im not guilty but case must not be done if i say guilty they send me back on dec 5,but its became dec, 21 finish then i wait in imigation but holiday i buy my on tiket you know the last money of me i buy my own tiket to go back phil as soon as posible if not may be 2nd week of jan i came here,my suite case in my guest not with the owner of the canot contack hey im so so upset im cry everyday in jail my god its ver bad expirence..i feel that i die that time..if you have time call me i lost everything my things my money i just go home only my self..its ok important im back" quote


i have copied an e-mail i received today from a wg i befriended last year and who i met in galaxy in wan chai. she was a 7 in my book and was good fun under the sheets and worth a return visit. other than anal she was up for anything at hk $1000 lt. i lost touch for a while and tried to contact her before i visited hk earlier in the month. no wonder she did not reply| i have not heard of this approach by le before and maybe some of the regulars that frequent hk can comment. frankly, although i have not spoken to her yet, i have a feeling there is more to it than meets the eye. i don't think she was into drugs or anything else but you never know. i know she was up to speed on the validity of visas so i would rule this out. i was in fenwicks and galaxy this month when it was "visited" by le but they were only interested in the girl's visas and looking for drugs. males were not inconvenienced.

Purple 2006
12-31-07, 07:58
Hello All,

Will be in HK next month. Have gone through the reports and conclude that 141 is the best option. (On-site or Hotel Reservation).

However, I see that most of the girls available are Chinese / Local.

If I want to have the option of Ebony / East Europe / Latina girls, what is the option?

I do not see any in the 141 site.

I see that there are some listed in the Escort sites. Is it worth it to try the Escort babes? Is there any specific place where Latina / Ebony girls are available? Awaiting some advice.

Purple

Shady Slim
12-31-07, 09:01
Popped into HK just after xmas, and straight to 37D, 1st floor, picked up Elaine, had her before a couple of months back so decided to stick to the same, mamasan tried to sell me a 3some but i stuck firmly to waiting for Elaine, she showed up 20 mins later, she from Shaoguan, speaks a few words of english but i have had a before and ehsw is well worth the wait.

Was ever so happy when she realized i had waited for her and didnt choose anyone else offered, started with the body massage in the shower followed by a nice long BBBJ, on to the bed for the back body massage and kissing all over, right down to some serious rimming... turned me over and i was about to blow there and then, she followed that with more BBBJ, DATY, and i just couldnt take it any more so blew my load, she very gently cleaned me up, and said she wanted more... so got showered, back in bed.. and aroused me again for all the regular positions, bloody surprised i could still blow a full load again, think its the way she uses her vagina muscles on me to control.. had a great time and fully recommend this great fuck.

Anyways back in Shanghai now.

Cheers

JackTheLad2
12-31-07, 13:32
[quote=rick hunter]i have heard this story a few times recently that police are pretending to be customers and once they get the girl to the place the deed is supposed to occur in they arrest her for working in hk with out a visa.


more information. i spoke to the girl - she was very upset and distressed and it was difficult to make out everything she was saying. she was in galaxy and a white male approached her. they talked and he bought her a couple of drinks. i think she then said they were leaving the bar and out on the street she was stopped by a police car. it gets a bit hazy from then on but she was taken to the police station and, if i picked her up right, she had a passport belonging to someone else. it was not very clear but obviously not straightforward. it is surprising as she is up to speed with visas etc, the upshot is that she spent 2 months in jail and just got back to phil at the weekend with more or less the clothes she had on. she is now not able to go back to hk and is thinking of going to china instead to "make a living". surprisingly she did not ask me for any money which i fully expected her to do. she wants to meet me in shenzhen in february when i return to hk for a couple of weeks. i might just miss that one out.

nothing is as straightforward as it seems!

Producer
12-31-07, 15:41
Following info is meant for Hong Kong travelers with limited time (about 3 hrs) and knowledge about Hong Kong “market”. What I did to get a nice massage and release:

Starting point: Hong Kong airport.

Step 1: Check the 141 website for goodies. You can access the internet for free with your laptop (wireless) at the airport. Info on that website is pretty up-to-date. Remember the location of the building and the floor / room numbers of the girls of your choice. I went to New Lucky House located at Jordan MTR station because it was very easy to find without speaking Mandarin, just at the exit of the MTR station, downtown.

Step 2: Store your luggage. There is a serviced luggage storage facility on the arrival level to the far-right (coming from the customs area). Costs HKD 50 per piece per day; need passport to check luggage in and out. Quick and safe.

Step 3: Go to restroom, change/obtain money from ATM, grab a bite etc. – all readily available in the arrival hall.

Step 4: Buy a ticket for the airport express train at vending machine (accepts HKD bills). Costs HKD 100 for same day return. Go to airport express train boarding area in the middle of the arrival hall. Trains leave every few minutes. Train takes you to Central station (Hong Kong island) in about 25 minutes which is faster and cheaper than any other transportation.

Step 5: Arrival at Central station on Hong Kong Island. Unless you have coins to buy ticket for the MTR (underground), go to the customer service desk just a couple of meters away when disembarking the airport train and buy for example a 1-day ticket (HKD 50) good for unlimited use on MTR. You can only use coins to buy tickets for the MTR once you take the escalator downstairs to get to the trains.

Step 6: Proceed to MTR. If you want to go to New Lucky House in Jordan, follow the signs for the red line MTR direction Tsuen Wan. Note: You have to walk for about 10 minutes as Central is one of the biggest stations but the signs are easy-to-follow (also to get back again – you can see the airport express/Disneyland train signs everywhere). Board the red line MTR bound for Tsuen Wan.

Step 7: Exit at Jordan MTR station (third stop). Follow the signs that lead you to Exit B and then exit B1. Exit B1 leads you up a staircase. Turn right and you are immediately in front of the New Lucky House No. 13 (name in English on black board).

Step 8: Proceed to the floor / room where the girl of your choice is located. You can take the elevators (note that not all elevators go to the same floor!) or staircase. The rooms on the respective floors have signs like “H1” relating to the website. Many doors also have pictures of the girl. Note: There is always a sign that says “please wait” or “welcome/ring the bell” in English to indicate the current availability. Also note: The building hosts private apartments as well and you will come across many Hong Kong guys doing the same as you do – but nobody gives a s*** about you– some even asked me for some hint to which girl they should go. Because the elevator is often busy, it is easier to go around the different floors using one of the staircases. I recommend going there in the early afternoon because favorite girls are very busy (some men even line up in front of the rooms!).

Step 9: Ring the bell. Once you have found the room/girl of choice and she is not busy, ring the bell. They might even open the door if you linger around their room because they have CCTV camera. No problem if you don’t like what you see, just go to another room. Expect to pay about HKD 500 for massage and full sex lasting about 60-90 min (one shot). They speak enough English to fix a deal.

Step 10: Enter the room and have fun. Rooms are small and certainly not of hotel standard, contain however the necessities and Asians are certainly cleaner than prostitutes from other countries. Process: She will ask you to take of cloths and do the same. She will wash you in a small shower and provide you with towel. Then follows a full body massage (girl naked) but no soapy, lasting for about 30 min. Girl will then ensure that your little friend is awaken and fix condom. Followed by BJ and FS in several positions. After finish, again shower with the girl. Get dressed, pay the negotiated fee and good-bye; tip not requested and didn’t seem to be expected. I was happy with what I got but I guess one could negotiate specials (anal, fetish play…) depending on the girl. Uncovered work also for BJ rather unlikely but the girl I had was very skilled and I would also recommend being careful in such a high “usage” environment.

Step 11: Explore / shop around the area or board the MTR to get back to the airport; just take red line direction of Central and follow the signs leading you to Airport Express / Disneyland train.

Summary: Was a perfect hassle-free, time-saving, satisfying experience (both massage and FS) before boarding a plane, in particular if one has no hotel room in HK to fix a date or order room service.

Pointpanic
12-31-07, 21:55
Hello All,

Will be in HK next month. Have gone through the reports and conclude that 141 is the best option. (On-site or Hotel Reservation).

However, I see that most of the girls available are Chinese / Local.

If I want to have the option of Ebony / East Europe / Latina girls, what is the option?

I do not see any in the 141 site.

I see that there are some listed in the Escort sites. Is it worth it to try the Escort babes? Is there any specific place where Latina / Ebony girls are available? Awaiting some advice.

Purple Not expert on HK but you may have better chance in Macau.

Rosco4444
01-01-08, 16:51
Called into Hari's early at 7. 15pm and not much on offer. New Years Day after all. ! After two hours and 4 Black Russians or so an 8/10 a white Russian sweetie comes in and sits alone. Med length dark hair nice B. C cup amd trim chassis. As the pickings were slim I decided to move in and after 1 hour of chat we got down to business and after a lengthy negotiation settled on $1500. 2 hrs. Pricey but she was an 8/10 with a great accent and loads of promises. Well, back to the hotel and every one of those promises was lived up to.

After a lengthy foreplay BBFS was offered which was, of course, declined but settled for a BBBJCIM after banging her in every conceivable position [COVERED] until she was pleading for mercy. I think the 20mg dose of C and 7 Black Russians hade something to do with that! She was a total GF experience with DFK but was out the door after 2 hours which incidently suited me fine as I was totally shagged and looking foreward to posting the experience and lapsing into the land of Nod. Only drawback was the constant bleating for extra $$ which was declined.

Body 6.5/10 [It should be noted I am a 3/10]
Face 7.5/10
BBBJCIM 10/10 Failed to score the 11 for the spit in the sink.
FS 9/10 An energetic performance wih loads of DFK and definitely a feel good experience.
WIR? Absolutely. Ranks amongst the best of them.

Overall, whilst a tad expensive it was a total GF experience and beat the mechanical BBBJ/FS at 37D hands down albeint at 3 times the cost. IMHO well worth it. Incidently she paid for her own drinks at Hari's (a pleasant surprise when it came to setttling my account!)

Happy Punting.

Idler31
01-01-08, 23:06
A little off-topic, but I think someone around here might be able to help. My freebie and I have had a condom failure, the odds have not been favourable, and there seems to be a little Idler on the way. It's very early days. Does anyone have any experience of pharmaceutical termination in HK? Can we get RU486 or an equivalent here? Would it be better to head over to SZ for quicker processing? Any tips gratefully received?

Owl_
01-01-08, 23:11
[It should be noted I am a 3/10]


Oh come on Rosco4444! You got to be a 3.5 at least!!! LOL

Thanks for the nice report on your night in Hong Kong!

TheGun
01-01-08, 23:24
Producer,

Great report. Wish I would have this when I visited HK, Shenzhen 2 years ago. Appreciate it.

BruceTea
01-02-08, 03:31
Anybody having problems logging into ISG from China? I live in Shenzhen and it's suddenly blocked yesterday and again today. I've never had this problem before and I have no trouble getting to other sites, and I can still get to ISG through a proxy server

Is it just Shenzhen or is it just me?

QhYeah, this is problem.

Even the hotel rooms are firewalled. I heard there 's a way around it, but it's techstuff.

I think you'll have to do your homework and bring out the saved files.

Rick Hunter
01-02-08, 04:54
Idler

I am not advocating anything one way or another but HK has all the modern medical facilities you would need one way or another.

What I would like to say, and it may sound harsh, is make sure your freebie was not looking for a father/paycheck. I know of a few cases where a freebie (and by freebie I assume you mean maid) has been pregnant and then has gone looking to find the best man to either be the "father" or help her pay for the termination. I am not saying that this is what happened in your case but it is something you might want to keep in mind. In one case it was a good friend of mine this happened to. The lady really tried to make him think the child was his but she was already pregnant first. It turned into an ugly situation.




A little off-topic, but I think someone around here might be able to help. My freebie and I have had a condom failure, the odds have not been favourable, and there seems to be a little Idler on the way. It's very early days. Does anyone have any experience of pharmaceutical termination in HK? Can we get RU486 or an equivalent here? Would it be better to head over to SZ for quicker processing? Any tips gratefully received?

FreebieFan
01-02-08, 05:37
Most doctors will take care of this for you. They do a quick medical check with the girl to make sure shes sane etc. And its certainly not cheap. But most places will do.

Idler31
01-02-08, 09:56
What I would like to say, and it may sound harsh, is make sure your freebie was not looking for a father/paycheck. I know of a few cases where a freebie (and by freebie I assume you mean maid) has been pregnant and then has gone looking to find the best man to either be the "father" or help her pay for the termination.

Thanks for the input. Yes, it's the maid (fairly obvious, I guess) and the obvious priority is keeping the wife in the dark! I'm pretty damn sure it's mine, to be honest. Based on replies here I think we'll be taking Sunday to visit a few GPs some distance from home to see if they can find an RU486. It's still early enough for that.

Let it be a lesson, guys! Don't play too close to home!

Haam Sap Lo
01-02-08, 10:14
Rosco4444,

Sorry for being ill-educated but what is 20mg dose of 'C' - some type of Viagra?

Haam Sap Lo

Rosco4444
01-02-08, 11:32
You are right. I actually looked a million dollars, green and wrinkled.

Sanptn
01-02-08, 19:34
I will be visiting HK for the first time... need some help in getting around, to get to good places. I have heard about 37D. Can anyone share about how to get there from the airport or the central station.

Also, is there a place where there are more bars and greater possibility of picking up girls?

Thanks in advance.

Pointpanic
01-03-08, 00:12
Rosco4444,

Sorry for being ill-educated but what is 20mg dose of 'C' - some type of Viagra?

Haam Sap Lo He was probably referring to Cialis

Twisted Monkey
01-03-08, 02:57
Regarding step 4. Just take airport express to TST/ Kowloon will cut off 15 min and you won't need to take the metr to jordon. Just tell the taxi jordan MTR when you get out of the kowloon airport express. Find the proper exit and it is right there. Or mongkok or whereever you nose or other areas point ya. Just wanted to shave some time off for ya.

Is your 3 hours including to have to check back in? it is gonna be tight.


Following info is meant for Hong Kong travelers with limited time (about 3 hrs) and knowledge about Hong Kong “market”. What I did to get a nice massage and release:

Starting point: Hong Kong airport.

Step 1: Check the 141 website for goodies. You can access the internet for free with your laptop (wireless) at the airport. Info on that website is pretty up-to-date. Remember the location of the building and the floor / room numbers of the girls of your choice. I went to New Lucky House located at Jordan MTR station because it was very easy to find without speaking Mandarin, just at the exit of the MTR station, downtown.

Step 2: Store your luggage. There is a serviced luggage storage facility on the arrival level to the far-right (coming from the customs area). Costs HKD 50 per piece per day; need passport to check luggage in and out. Quick and safe.

Step 3: Go to restroom, change/obtain money from ATM, grab a bite etc. – all readily available in the arrival hall.

Step 4: Buy a ticket for the airport express train at vending machine (accepts HKD bills). Costs HKD 100 for same day return. Go to airport express train boarding area in the middle of the arrival hall. Trains leave every few minutes. Train takes you to Central station (Hong Kong island) in about 25 minutes which is faster and cheaper than any other transportation.

Step 5: Arrival at Central station on Hong Kong Island. Unless you have coins to buy ticket for the MTR (underground), go to the customer service desk just a couple of meters away when disembarking the airport train and buy for example a 1-day ticket (HKD 50) good for unlimited use on MTR. You can only use coins to buy tickets for the MTR once you take the escalator downstairs to get to the trains.

Step 6: Proceed to MTR. If you want to go to New Lucky House in Jordan, follow the signs for the red line MTR direction Tsuen Wan. Note: You have to walk for about 10 minutes as Central is one of the biggest stations but the signs are easy-to-follow (also to get back again – you can see the airport express/Disneyland train signs everywhere). Board the red line MTR bound for Tsuen Wan.

Step 7: Exit at Jordan MTR station (third stop). Follow the signs that lead you to Exit B and then exit B1. Exit B1 leads you up a staircase. Turn right and you are immediately in front of the New Lucky House No. 13 (name in English on black board).

Step 8: Proceed to the floor / room where the girl of your choice is located. You can take the elevators (note that not all elevators go to the same floor!) or staircase. The rooms on the respective floors have signs like “H1” relating to the website. Many doors also have pictures of the girl. Note: There is always a sign that says “please wait” or “welcome/ring the bell” in English to indicate the current availability. Also note: The building hosts private apartments as well and you will come across many Hong Kong guys doing the same as you do – but nobody gives a s*** about you– some even asked me for some hint to which girl they should go. Because the elevator is often busy, it is easier to go around the different floors using one of the staircases. I recommend going there in the early afternoon because favorite girls are very busy (some men even line up in front of the rooms!).

Step 9: Ring the bell. Once you have found the room/girl of choice and she is not busy, ring the bell. They might even open the door if you linger around their room because they have CCTV camera. No problem if you don’t like what you see, just go to another room. Expect to pay about HKD 500 for massage and full sex lasting about 60-90 min (one shot). They speak enough English to fix a deal.

Step 10: Enter the room and have fun. Rooms are small and certainly not of hotel standard, contain however the necessities and Asians are certainly cleaner than prostitutes from other countries. Process: She will ask you to take of cloths and do the same. She will wash you in a small shower and provide you with towel. Then follows a full body massage (girl naked) but no soapy, lasting for about 30 min. Girl will then ensure that your little friend is awaken and fix condom. Followed by BJ and FS in several positions. After finish, again shower with the girl. Get dressed, pay the negotiated fee and good-bye; tip not requested and didn’t seem to be expected. I was happy with what I got but I guess one could negotiate specials (anal, fetish play…) depending on the girl. Uncovered work also for BJ rather unlikely but the girl I had was very skilled and I would also recommend being careful in such a high “usage” environment.

Step 11: Explore / shop around the area or board the MTR to get back to the airport; just take red line direction of Central and follow the signs leading you to Airport Express / Disneyland train.

Summary: Was a perfect hassle-free, time-saving, satisfying experience (both massage and FS) before boarding a plane, in particular if one has no hotel room in HK to fix a date or order room service.

Owl_
01-03-08, 06:50
You hansum man!! As the girls in Thailand would say!!!


You are right. I actually looked a million dollars, green and wrinkled.

Chinfly
01-03-08, 07:19
I think the quickest way from the airport to the TST/Jordan/Mongkok area would be to take the airport express to TsingYi. Take the TungChung line to LaiKing. Then take the TsuenWan line to the stop you want. No taxi needed for most 141 destinations.

See the map here : http://www.mtr.com.hk/eng/train/system_map_pop_up.html


Regarding step 4. Just take airport express to TST/ Kowloon will cut off 15 min and you won't need to take the metr to jordon. Just tell the taxi jordan MTR when you get out of the kowloon airport express. Find the proper exit and it is right there. Or mongkok or whereever you nose or other areas point ya. Just wanted to shave some time off for ya.

Is your 3 hours including to have to check back in? it is gonna be tight.

Producer
01-03-08, 09:48
Regarding step 4. Just take airport express to TST/ Kowloon will cut off 15 min and you won't need to take the metr to jordon. Just tell the taxi jordan MTR when you get out of the kowloon airport express. Find the proper exit and it is right there. Or mongkok or whereever you nose or other areas point ya. Just wanted to shave some time off for ya.

Is your 3 hours including to have to check back in? it is gonna be tight.

Thanks for this and other comments. Yes, there are certainly different options even when taking the airport express / MTR. To me, taking a taxi adds some uncertainty to the equation in terms of time required to get to the destination (rush hour or not, bad weather hence no taxis or not) and my experience with taxis in HK was so far not the best if you can't speak Mandarin/Cantonese. I second that anyone taking a taxi should tell the driver to go to Jordan MTR and not the mongering location; don't know about HK drivers but one should never indicate a mongering place as final destination.

Check in time: That's difficult to calculate in. I'd say that 3 hours are good for making the turnaround to the check-in but not completing it and making it to the plane. I made the experience that check-in in HK for my airlines opens about 2,5 to 3 hours before boarding time. When flying business class, it takes about 15 minutes to check in. When flying eco, people tend to line up before opening of the counters - better to come later then but consider a 30 minutes buffer for that.

Lionking7
01-03-08, 15:09
just back from a fun-filled 48 hours in hong kong and macau. what a trip! i have been a regular visitor to bangkok and used to consider that as the ultimate place for mongering and gfe. after this trip i would put hk/macau ahead of bkk in terms of quality as well as service.

arrived at the hkia early afternoon and took the bus to macau ferry terminal (shun tak center). located the left luggage facility near the mtr station (not the ferry company facility, which is much more expensive) to leave my luggage and took the mtr to jordan station. came out through the exit for temple street and soon i was at k pressure. the english-speaking lady offered me water and explained the cost, which was hkd 390 for 45 minutes.

soon she ushered in a pretty mainland chinese girl about 22/23 years. the girl was smiling and i took an instant liking for her. she could not speak any english, but was smiling at me all the time. her hands were all over me trying to make me say yes. a quick pat of her ample breasts convinced me they were not enhanced.

in about 5 minutes i said ok to her and she went out of the room and the mamasam returned. i made the payment and confirmed from her that the time can be extended against extra payment of the same amount.

we walked up one floor to the hourly hotel where i paid hkd 100 more. once inside the room i spent several minutes kissing and caressing her, which she really seemed to enjoy. we had a quick shower. i declined the air matress bed massage in the bathroom and we proceeded to the bed. some more deep kisses and caresses followed. it was really like meeting a gf after a long gap.

the lovemaking was superb. the chemistry was just right. she was very wet. she did whatever i asked, including anal rimming. both came just about the same time and it was just heaven.

even though we did not communicate much it was one of my best gfe. she was an 8 in looks and a 10 in service. overall, i would rate this experience as one of my very best. her name was sasa.

after the most wonderful experience went back to the shun tak centre and bought a sauna package for golden dragon for about hkd 1550, that included return ferry ticket. checked into my hotel at macau and went into the golden dragon sauna.

the sauna facilities at golden dragon are of very high standard. thoroughly refreshed myself before it was the time for the line up. the gd line up is huge and very high quality. there were more than 100 girls of various nationalities and most of them were 8s and 9s. at no other place in the world i have come across a better line up of such numbers. i would be happy to bed practically all of them and some were really outstanding.

i always enjoy watching the punters, when the girls line up. guys in various shapes and sizes draped in towels watch in amazement as the beautiful girls walk past. many of the girls are quickly taken. some of the guys pace up and down trying to get a better look and trying to identify the best and at the same time the good ones are going fast. there is a frenzy to be quick to get a good one and yet not to miss a better one.

the crowd at the gd almost entirely consists of orientals. i have hardly come across whites and blacks. i am of indian origin and had never faced any discrimination. there are a few english-speaking managers and waiters at the place and language is not an issue.

after much deliberation i picked up a very beautiful vietnamese. while the service was quite good, including the standard ice and hot water treatment, the passion was missing. she did all she was supposed to do, but somehow the experience was not fulfilling.

nevertheless, the time was well spent at the sauna. did manicure, pedicure and some other services on offer. food and beverages were unlimited. internet was free and above all the line up was there every hour. overall, time well spent.

next day i decided to visit the famed lisboa shark pit. as reported earlier, lots of eye candy. but, decided not to proceed further in view of adverse reports. instead i walked down to the big boss sauna nearby.

the facilities at big boss were equally good, though smaller. enjoyed the wash offered in a room by a bikini-clad woman. the hot water cleaned every part of my body and had never felt cleaner.

after retiring to the lounge enjoyed the food and some of the treatments on offer. but, sadly there was no line up. about a year back when i had last visited there was a nice show. the papasam explained there was no show or line up and he will bring a few girls if i specify my requirements. when i said i would like to take a look at all the available girls he said that will take time. i preferred to wait.

after about half an hour he took me upstairs and paraded about 15 girls. quality was quite good, but the thrill of 100+ girls walking around in throbbing music at gd the previous night was missing at bb.

i settled for a beautiful vietnamese girl, who was very playful and seemed like a bundle of joy and energy. we walked in to the allotted room hand in hand. when she took of her clothes and stood before me i stood mesmerized. she was so beautiful. every part of her body was perfectly formed. she was enjoying the attention i was lavishing on her and was giggling.

the lovemaking was ecstatic. i had a mind-blowing orgasm and rested for a while. surprise! just by looking at her i had a stiffy in no time and she was giggling away enjoying every minute. second round over and time was also up. i asked her phone number. she ran out and came back carrying cell phone. she scrolled down in the contacts and showed me number. i was not in a position to remember and asked for a pen. she again ran out. the papasam was getting impatient and came knocking at the door after making a couple of phone calls. she wrote down a number. her name is cindy/amy and her number was 703.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Twisted Monkey
01-04-08, 01:54
Hi guys,

Just some friendly advice or pointer. I take Vit C(ialis) in a recreational way and I usually pick it up at the pharmacy in Wan Chai across from Empire hotel.

Twice now they have tried to screw me (financially) I can always pay 1500 HKD for 30 tablet bottle (I have been known to bring christmas prsents of these back home to the usa for buddies.

The last purchase, I knew something was off as soon as I got home the tablet color was not quite right. Also, I never take a full pill and to split them I usually bite them so I know the bitter taste they have. Well I go ahead bite, hmm not the same taste. Hmmm, no effect.

So I go down the next day (I have no shame mind you) and say Hey! WTF! To the reply oh sorry sir we gave you the wrong one, standard nonsense. I didn't make a scene but I let them know I was not pleased. So I had a date that night opened the new bottle (color right) and bit a pill right there. Taste was right. Later the reaction was right as well. OK NO problem.

So a few months later I have clients in town and it ends up they want a bottle. I take them over to the pharm and the bottle looks all wrong again. I let them know I am going to open the bottle and they say oh wait can you come back in 30 min we will get you another bottle. WTF! Of course the new bottle when we came back everything was OK.

Just watch yourselves guys. If anybody has a pharmacy they have had a good reaction from and decent service I would be appreciative. Because though I get what I want I am tried of all the issues each time I go there now. I don't like doing business with people who act like this.

TM

Rosco4444
01-04-08, 05:54
Try the pharmacy next to K Pressure. Original packaging available over the counter 390HK for 4 x 20mg. Original and works fine. Most Mongkok pharmacies supply without a problem.

Neuromancer
01-04-08, 20:05
A little off-topic, but I think someone around here might be able to help. My freebie and I have had a condom failure, the odds have not been favourable, and there seems to be a little Idler on the way. It's very early days. Does anyone have any experience of pharmaceutical termination in HK? Can we get RU486 or an equivalent here? Would it be better to head over to SZ for quicker processing? Any tips gratefully received?Don't have any first hand experience, but my impression is that terminations on the SZ side would be quite easy, whether you prefer the pill form (there's a time limit here isn't there?) or surgical form.

I'd brought up this question with WG's in the past and the reaction was always something along the lines of "no big deal"... but I think that they mostly head over to SZ (seems like they all spend their free time there). Maybe you have a WG friend you could ask for more detailed info?

Miguel56
01-05-08, 01:24
Please forgive the noobie question but these sound like what I am looking for. To be honest I have tried the 141 girls and the KTV but was looking for a sauna kind of like you see in the movies. I think there was one in Rush hour 3 or in a video for the movie. Basically they show you like 15 girls in silk robes and you get massage and whatever service you like after.

Are these those type of places?

Thanks


For those who are interested in saunas, here is a list. I cannot take credit for the list, I obtained it from another source. Note that the building called Wai Wah Comm. Bldg at 109-113 Portland st Mongkok has 4 saunas. I have only been two one sauna at this location (Long to Court). There are saunas on the 11, 9, 6, and 5 floors. Each one is a different sauna with different girls as I was told by the mama.

My friend likes G/F-3/F, Portland House, 194-196 Portland St, Mong Kok, opposite Langham Hotel. I have never been here so I cannot give you any info. But, as I said, he likes it. I not big on saunas, but my Chinese friends love them (eat, drink, get a massage, watch TV, get laid, I guess it is like a boys club).


Big Shot Steam Bath Flat A & B, 1/F, 190-192 Tai Po Rd, Sham Shui Po, Kln
Carnival Message Steam Palace 318-328 King's Road, Whole 3/F, North Point, HK.
CYBER SAUNA 3/F, CYBER PLAZA, 237-247 TEMPLE STREET, YAU MA TEI, KLN
Dragon Palace Sauna 1/F, Wah Shing Bldg., 17-23 Castle Peak Rd., Sham Shui Po, Kln
DRAGON WAVE JAPANESE MASSAGE Flat C & D, 1/F., Fuk Ying Bldg., 379-381 King's RD., North Point, HK
Dynasty Sauna 10/F Wing Kee Comm. Bldg., 156-162 Castle Peak Rd., Kln
East Lake Sauna 10/F, Sun Hing Bldg., 607 Nathan Road, Mong Kok, Kowloon
Empire Sauna & Massage 2/F, Booman House, 37U Jordan Rd, Yau Ma Tei, Kln
FAIRY-TALE ISLAND SAUNA No. 801-804 & 816-820, 8/F, Sun Hing Bldg, 607 Nathan Rd, Mong Kok, Kln
Fuji Sauna 98-104 Reclamation St, 1/F Yau Ma Tei, Kln
Global Massage Centre 2/F, Kam Bong Bldg, 14 Wing Kut St, Central, HK
Gold Sand Sauna 4/F, Wai Wah Commercial Bldg, 109-113 Portland St., Yau Ma Tei, Kln
Golden Jasper Sauna 3/F, Manly Comm Bldg, 11-17 Soy St, Mong Kok, Kln
Golden Lake Sauna 46-54 Temple St, Basement, Yau Ma Tei, Kln
Golden Treasure Sauna Knapwood Comm. Bldg., 253-255 Temple Street, Yau Ma Tei
Grand Arch Sauna 3/F, Golden Era Plaza, 39 Sai Yee Street, Mong Kok, Kln
Happy Sauna G/F, Shop G, 1/F & 2/F, FT A-F, Ealing Court , 259A Temple ST, YMT
Island Sauna Units B01& B40-B42, Basement, Lai Sun Comm. Ctr, 680 Cheung Sha Wan Rd, Sham Shui Po, KLN
Jade Lake Sauna 9/F, Wai Wah Comm. Bldg, 109-113 Portland St, Yau Ma Tei, KLN
Jordan Sauna 5/F, Jordan Plaza, 28-28A Jordan Road & 86-94 Shanghai Street, Yau Ma Tei, Kln
Kam Bik Sauna 1/F & 2/F, Hydan Place, 228-234 Shanghai Street, Yau Ma Tei, Kowloon
Kam Po Loy Sauna 1/F, Haven Mansion,106-112 Woosung St, YMT, KLN
Kam To Kwok Sauna 3/F, Wai Wah Comm. Bldg, 109-113 Portland St, YMT, KLN
KAM TO SAUNA 3/F, HANG SHING BLDG, 44 KWEILIN ST, SHAM SHUI PO, KLN
King's Sauna M/F, State Theatre Building, 289-291 King's Rd, North Point, HK
King's Sauna 4/F-5/F, 698-710 Shanghai St, Mong Kok, Kln
Lung To Kok Sauna G/F (Portion) & 1/F, 479 Shanghai St, Mong Kok, KLN
Massage Place G/F-3/F, Portland House, 194-196 Portland St, Mong Kok, Kln
Mong Kok Sauna Bath Part of G/F & 1/F, 30-36 Mong Kok Rd, Mong Kok, Kln
NEW DRAGON SAUNA BATH 2/F, KNAPWOOD COMMERCIAL BUILDING, 253-255 TEMPLE STREET, YAU MA TEI, KLN
New Hsin Kok Sauna Rm 901-910, Sun Hing Bldg, 607 Nathan Rd, Mong Kok, KLN
New Temple Street Sauna Shop E, 1/F-2/F, Liberty Mansion, 26E Jordan Road, Yau Ma Tei, Kln
North Point City Sauna Shops 1 & 2, 2/F, Sentact Bldg, 347 King's Rd, North Point, HK
Ocean King Sauna 338 King's Rd., 1/F & Portion of G/F., North Point, HK
Oriental Palm Spring Sauna Spa Shop1, G/F, 1/F & 2/F & G/F Entrance at Ning Po St, Kensington Plaza, 98 Parkes St, YMT, KLN
Pacific Sauna Basement, Wing Kee Comm Bldg, 156-162 Castle Peak Rd, Cheung Sha Wan, Sham Shui Po, Kln
Prince City Sauna Shop M on G/F, 1/F & 2/F, Mainway Count, 15-33 Kwong Wa Street & 126-128 Soy Street, Mong Kok, Kln
Prince Silver Spring Sauna Portion of Upper Basement, Sun Hing Bldg, 607 Nathan Road, Mong Kok, Kln
Queenie Court Sauna Basement & Portions of G/F, Pollock Bldg, 9-10 Tak Hing St, Yau Ma Tei, Kln
Repulse Bay Sauna 9/F, 317 Nathan Rd, Yau Ma Tei, Kln
San Diego Hotel De Sauna 169-189 Woosung St, 1/F & 2/F, Yau Ma Tei, Kln
SANDS SAUNA G/F (PORTION), 2/F & 3/F(PORTION) INCL. FLAT A OF LUCKY HOUSE, 18-24 JORDAN ROAD, YAU MA TEI, KLN
Sapphire Lagoon Sauna 1/F, Kent Bldg, 39 & 39A Jordan Rd, Yau Ma Tei,
Seashore Palace Health Spa Shop No. 5, G/F., 24 Wai Ching St. & Whole 1/F., 14-44 Wai Ching St., Yau Ma Tei, Kln.
Sun Do Wui Sauna Bath 11/F, Wai Wah Building, 109-113 Portland Street, Yau Ma Tei, Kln
Sunshine Sauna Basement 2, Chong Hing Square, 593-601 Nathan Rd, Mong Kok, Kln
SUPREME SAUNA 6/F, WAI WAH COMMERCIAL BUILDING, 109-113 PORTLAND STREET, YAU MA TEI, KLN.
Swan Lake Sauna Shop No. 6, G/F. 1/F & 2/F, Nam Cheong Centre, 81-95 Nam Cheong Street, Sham Shui Po, Kln
TAI WAH KWOK Sauna Flat 1,2,3,16,17, 1/F Ping On Bldg, 383-385 Nathan RD., Yau Ma Tei, Kln.
Telbo Sauna Rm 304-308, 3/F, Sun Hing Bldg, 603-609A Nathan Rd, Mong Kok, Kln

Beijing Lover
01-05-08, 05:45
Just buy a package at the Macau Ferry Terminal / Shun Tak Center and go directly to Macau.
You will find the place you are looking for...


Please forgive the noobie question but these sound like what I am looking for. To be honest I have tried the 141 girls and the KTV but was looking for a sauna kind of like you see in the movies. I think there was one in Rush hour 3 or in a video for the movie. Basically they show you like 15 girls in silk robes and you get massage and whatever service you like after.

Are these those type of places?

Thanks

Sparky Boy
01-05-08, 08:14
Just buy a package at the Macau Ferry Terminal / Shun Tak Center and go directly to Macau.
You will find the place you are looking for...

I agree, more specifically, buy a package to sauna 18 at Shun Tak (the ferry terminal), you won't miss these travel agents, they have lots of posters that will catch your eye.

It was just reported on a few posts down by Lion King 7. He called it Golden Dragon sauna, it is the same as sauna 18, sauna 18 is located on level 6 of Golden Dragon casino/hotel.

I cant remember if its on level 6 of the hotel or casino but it is very easy to find, say 18 to a taxi driver and your there in less than 5 minutes from the ferry terminal.

So for the rush hour movie experience, definitely give 18 a try.

BTW, the saunas in HK are nowhere near macau saunas, if HK sauna is C grade then macau sauna is A+ grade. Besides, macau is only 1 hour away from HK.

One Eyed Monger
01-05-08, 16:36
Yup .. 18 is nice, for sure. Here is a walk-through I did for the sauna mid 2007.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=600583#post600583

That should help getting the lay of the land (and the women).

OEM


I agree, more specifically, buy a package to sauna 18 at Shun Tak (the ferry terminal), you won't miss these travel agents, they have lots of posters that will catch your eye.

It was just reported on a few posts down by Lion King 7. He called it Golden Dragon sauna, it is the same as sauna 18, sauna 18 is located on level 6 of Golden Dragon casino/hotel.

I cant remember if its on level 6 of the hotel or casino but it is very easy to find, say 18 to a taxi driver and your there in less than 5 minutes from the ferry terminal.

So for the rush hour movie experience, definitely give 18 a try.

BTW, the saunas in HK are nowhere near macau saunas, if HK sauna is C grade then macau sauna is A+ grade. Besides, macau is only 1 hour away from HK.

Manfest
01-05-08, 19:03
---cut---
I take them over to the pharm and the bottle looks all wrong again. I let them know I am going to open the bottle and they say oh wait can you come back in 30 min we will get you another bottle. WTF! Of course the new bottle when we came back everything was OK.
---cut---

Hi TM,
Thanks for the info. Would you mind taking pictures of the "correct" bottle and posting? Whether we (collectively) make a difference and change their behavior depends on knowing the right from wrong bottle. I have a good idea of the color of pill and taste. I'm interested in purchasing some as well, obviously. Thanks.
-M

JackTheLad2
01-05-08, 20:56
Hi TM,
Thanks for the info. Would you mind taking pictures of the "correct" bottle and posting? Whether we (collectively) make a difference and change their behavior depends on knowing the right from wrong bottle. I have a good idea of the color of pill and taste. I'm interested in purchasing some as well, obviously. Thanks.
-M


I'm a vitamin V man myself. I usually take a supply with me (properly prescribed on a private prescription from my Dr.) I assume vit V is available and on sale in the chemist shop. What are the chances of getting the real viagra as opposed to some fake crap? If they do this with vit C then they can do it with other medication. I need to be careful that I get the right stuff due to other medication I take.
Thanks for any info.

Sanptn
01-06-08, 20:32
I will be visiting HK for the first time... need some help in getting around, to get to good places. I have heard about 37D. Can anyone share about how to get there from the airport or the central station.

Also, is there a place where there are more bars and greater possibility of picking up girls?

Thanks in advance.Even after diligent searching of the forum, I am unable to find the location and directions to 37D, need help since I am already here in HK. Also, I was surprise to see that some of 141 girls do not work after 11:30 PM. Has any one tried them at later time?

HenryV
01-06-08, 20:52
I will be in Hong Kong for the first time next month and will have a Sunday afternoon free.

As my significant other will be with me (she is visiting her niece), any suggestions on a good massage parlor. I will be staying at the Eaton Hotel.

Thank you.

Toki Jo
01-06-08, 21:27
Can anyone point me in the right direction to a straight massage centre without the "extras" in the Tsim Tsai Tsui area please. Thanks

Tiger 888
01-07-08, 02:02
Even after diligent searching of the forum, I am unable to find the location and directions to 37D, need help since I am already here in HK. Also, I was surprise to see that some of 141 girls do not work after 11:30 PM. Has any one tried them at later time?Come on, use the search function of this thread, enter 37D, browse the results to get the street name, then go to a map site, e.g. www.centamap.com , enter the street name, find it, go there, find No. 37D and done.

Tiger 888
01-07-08, 02:04
Can anyone point me in the right direction to a straight massage centre without the "extras" in the Tsim Tsai Tsui area please. Thanks
I don't know which places don't offer extras, but the places that do extras also offer straight massage. And in most places the girl for the massage and the girl for the extras is not the same. So just skip the extras and only buy the basic package. Sun Hot Sauna on Prat avenue is a place you could try. Just ask the guy/girl sitting at the entrance desk.

Sanptn
01-07-08, 02:20
Come on, use the search function of this thread, enter 37D, browse the results to get the street name, then go to a map site, e.g. www.centamap.com , enter the street name, find it, go there, find No. 37D and done.Thanks ! Agreed I did not look at the maps thread and I know now that 37D is located on Nathan Road.

Traveler1234
01-07-08, 03:47
Even after diligent searching of the forum, I am unable to find the location and directions to 37D, need help since I am already here in HK.

1. Report of distinction has at least 3, maybe more post, re location of 37D
2. Search for "37 Dundas"

If you still can't find the place, pay Jackson for subscription and pm me.


Also, I was surprise to see that some of 141 girls do not work after 11:30 PM. Has any one tried them at later time?

Doesn't the 141 website list their working hours?

Ramn HK
01-07-08, 06:44
Can anyone point me in the right direction to a straight massage centre without the "extras" in the Tsim Tsai Tsui area please. Thanks

There are lots of foot massage places in Tsim Sha Tsui and they offer other massages as well. No "extras" provided. You can't walk the area without getting handed a flier for massages. A place where some friends go to is next to Harilela Mansion which is on the same side of Nathan road as the mosque, between the Haiphong road and Peking road.

Have fun and stay safe!

Sanptn
01-07-08, 15:07
Day 1:

Checked into the hotel and logged onto the web to look for mongering information. First off, I had to find a nearest ATM and found one on Lockhart.

After withdrawing sufficient funds, got onto to my trek. First stop, a foot reflexology place for a good massage to take care of fatigue and travel stress. Got a decent 45 min massage for $128 HKD.

Following that took a taxi to Dreams II and decided to browse through the bars around the block. It was quite disappointing to see empty bars with girls in skimpy dressses and pushy solicitors outside the bar. Decided to check out Fenwicks but was deterred by the steep cover charge of $300. Waited outside Fenwicks and notice quite a few girls soliciting. Apparently due to the color of my skin [brown] no one approached. Also, found out that you needed to be dressed business casual to get some attention but I was dressed very informal and in jeans. No luck picking up any girl around that area and decided to head back to the hotel for a good night's sleep.

Sanptn
01-07-08, 15:16
Day 2

Woke up a little late and after breakfast and a good amount of info from the forum on 141 girls, I headed for my adventure. Since I had arrived very late in HK the previous late night, I had not tried any of 141 girls since most of them operated only till 12 AM.

Found Hop Yee bldg on 474 -476 Lockhart with the help of centamap info and started with the top floor. None found on the top till I came down to the 7th floor. To my good fortune, I encoured Eva and Chinese girl with nice breasts [ I am the breast kind of guy and don't mind some flesh elsewhere too]. She quoted $400 and after some initial caressing and hugging, she lead me to the shower. She gave me a nice shower and out of the shower, she gave me a good back massage. On the flip, she gave a very good nipple licking and the crotch area, followed by a CBJ. Got into full mode in multiple positions and a great release. All in all, a nice 141 experience with an amazing girl.

Highly recommend Eva !

Rancher Joe
01-08-08, 10:09
Can anyone point me in the right direction to a straight massage centre without the "extras" in the Tsim Tsai Tsui area please. ThanksI go to a place called Chung Wah just off of Nathan Road. Room 6, 1/F Hai Phong Mansion 53-55. This is the road that goes from Nathan to Ocean Terminal by the park. Ask for Angel. She had six years massage training in Beijing and does an excellent straight massage with no extras.

World Guy Sh
01-08-08, 14:13
Just had my first 141 experience. Perhaps a little like the BBS scene in Shanghai in that it is quick and straightforward, but in those you see the girls available all lined up, pick the one you want and off you go. And there is no website of course.

So, ploughed through the 141 site, selecting girls that I liked the look of in the Fuji Building. Got there and it was rush hour. Men going up an down the stairs, bells going. Don't bother going through the site. Just select a building and go for it. What to do is written well enough on here. Even so, thought I would tackle a few I had hosen, non available but realised I was walking up. Kept on going. Rang one bell, pretty girl answered but rejected ME (ha ha! ). Then I turned down a couple of others. A bit old. Finally found myself on the 16/f and went for one with a "Welcome" sign up. Atttractive girl with great breats answered with a smile so in I went.

Shirely, Flat B3 16/f for reference. Turned out to be Mongolian / Korean and spoke excellent English (along with a range of other languages). A great plus.

Strip, nice shower, onto the bed, perfuntory massage on back, better on front. CBJ (brief) and then FS. She was happy to ride around on top until I blew (which, quite frankly wasn't long). Shower, and then dress.

OK, but wasn't up for number 2 (even with indication of payment), fairly mechnical on the whole. But then, money was walking up and down the stairs, so you would be I guess. In Shanghai take out and LT is a possible with many FS BBS girls. She said I could see her again 'in my dreams' so you get the message. She even asked where I was staying which was around the corner.

Overall. Not a GFE, but was a bit too processed like. But then the wole place is something of a **** factory. HK$500. Perhaps need a 300 away from central area.

May wander off to try Laguna or something. Just to see the scene if nothing else.

WGS

Sanptn
01-09-08, 16:57
My first visit to 37D. Mmm, the thought of my first experience give me a hard-on. Wow what an experience.

After the thorough research and location lookup on the map, I headed to Dundas street but got out of MTR at Jordan and ended up walking a long mile to get to Dundas street. I would recommend to get out at Yau Ma Tei [exit A1]. At first glance, I was not sure that I had arrived at the right place and got out after being asked to get into a room. On proper validation of the location, I got in and was ushered into a room. A little while later the lineup and I chose a girl with the largest breasts amongst the line up and paid the std $$$$. The girl's name sounded something like Soumi and she escorted me to the room two floors up.

This girl was kind of strange, she helped me to remove my clothes and lead me to shower. She seems to have some kind of fetish, she spend a quite long washing me and herself. She gave the soapie experience in a stand-up shower and gave good wash of my private area. When we got out of the shower, she started kissing all over my body and in another strange twist, she started licking (almost blowing) two fingers at a time and repeated the same for all 10 fingers. She then proceeded to suck my toes and leaving none touched by her nice tongue. While she was working on my toes, I gave here a good cunnilingus and fingered her a-hole quite a bit. She was moaning at the magic of my tongue on her clit and a-hole.

She asked me to turnover and started licking my a-hole, I have never had such a good licking & tongue cleanup there. I was absolutely at a climax with her tongue working on a-hole. When I flipped, she put on a condom and gave a nice CBJ. She rode on my saddle to completion and what an amazing overall experience at my first visit to 37 D !

Toki Jo
01-09-08, 19:27
Rancher Joe, thanks for advice but are the massages carried out by females, is the decor decent with sauna and steam rooms?

Softy
01-09-08, 20:09
Hi guys,

Just some friendly advice or pointer. I take Vit C(ialis) in a recreational way and I usually pick it up at the pharmacy in Wan Chai across from Empire hotel.

Twice now they have tried to screw me (financially) I can always pay 1500 HKD for 30 tablet bottle (I have been known to bring christmas prsents of these back home to the usa for buddies.

The last purchase, I knew something was off as soon as I got home the tablet color was not quite right. Also, I never take a full pill and to split them I usually bite them so I know the bitter taste they have. Well I go ahead bite, hmm not the same taste. Hmmm, no effect.

So I go down the next day (I have no shame mind you) and say Hey! WTF! To the reply oh sorry sir we gave you the wrong one, standard nonsense. I didn't make a scene but I let them know I was not pleased. So I had a date that night opened the new bottle (color right) and bit a pill right there. Taste was right. Later the reaction was right as well. OK NO problem.

So a few months later I have clients in town and it ends up they want a bottle. I take them over to the pharm and the bottle looks all wrong again. I let them know I am going to open the bottle and they say oh wait can you come back in 30 min we will get you another bottle. WTF! Of course the new bottle when we came back everything was OK.

Just watch yourselves guys. If anybody has a pharmacy they have had a good reaction from and decent service I would be appreciative. Because though I get what I want I am tried of all the issues each time I go there now. I don't like doing business with people who act like this.

TM

Great post and information. Thanks as I have used that pharmo in the past.

Diver69
01-12-08, 01:45
Asked this question about a year ago and only got one response. Hope better response this time.

How easy is it to get Plan B (or generic) or Emergency Contraceptive Pills in HK?

The response I received last time gave a website, but I am looking for direct purchase in HK.

Can anyone help?

The World
01-12-08, 20:36
Day 1:

Checked into the hotel and logged onto the web to look for mongering information. First off, I had to find a nearest ATM and found one on Lockhart.

After withdrawing sufficient funds, got onto to my trek. First stop, a foot reflexology place for a good massage to take care of fatigue and travel stress. Got a decent 45 min massage for $128 HKD.

Following that took a taxi to Dreams II and decided to browse through the bars around the block. It was quite disappointing to see empty bars with girls in skimpy dressses and pushy solicitors outside the bar. Decided to check out Fenwicks but was deterred by the steep cover charge of $300. Waited outside Fenwicks and notice quite a few girls soliciting. Apparently due to the color of my skin [brown] no one approached. Also, found out that you needed to be dressed business casual to get some attention but I was dressed very informal and in jeans. No luck picking up any girl around that area and decided to head back to the hotel for a good night's sleep.

re fenwicks and the cover. cause you are brown, they are going to do that. if you walk in with a white dude, they won't charge you cover. This has been my experience every time there.

The World
01-13-08, 06:03
Prices are roughly the same, however which one would you guys recommend?

Thanks!

BruceTea
01-13-08, 09:09
Woot,

Good stuff.

Thank you for sharing.

Mombasa123
01-13-08, 10:09
re fenwicks and the cover. cause you are brown, they are going to do that. if you walk in with a white dude, they won't charge you cover. This has been my experience every time there.That's my experience too at Fenwicks, Neptune and Laguna. Walk in with white mates (i'm UK indian) and no worries. On my own, been asked for a cover charge though not always. Last time I was showing my cousin and his chinese supplier around - fenwick asked 100HKD each which included a drink. Paid up 'cos needed to show my cousin the place. Normally I would decline or object and work my way thru it. It's not the money but the principle of it all. Hell, I spend shed loads on drinks in these places.

Also, you'll find it's more difficult for asians to pick up - some girls obviously don't go with indians - helps if you are with a group of white mates.

It's not nice and always upsets me. Live with it 'cos there's not much one can do.

Mind you, I was in Fenwick just b4 Xmas with mates and pretty tipsy. Got approached by the very pretty pino and her mate. I was standing there without a girl (having just blown out a thai girl I really fancied but who looked like trouble after a convo with her). They were both a double act and very friendly. Had a great time with them in the bar and took them both back. Not really into the 2 girl thing - was feeling self-consious and asked the less attractive girl to go into the spare room. Had an absolutely fab time with the other one and exchanged numbers. She was very GFE and quite obviously taken with my apartment and where I live.

Unfortunately I was going back to Uk for Xmas and she was only there for 2 weeks. Got a text from her asking when I was back. Got back on New Years eve but she was flying back an hour after I got in. Ah well, next time.

Manfest
01-13-08, 19:19
Prices are roughly the same, however which one would you guys recommend?

Thanks!

It really depends on many factors. I think the only obvious fixed difference is that 37D tries to do a line up (varies based on day of week, time of day, etc) while K let's you "interview" them one at a time. The obvious variables such as the type of girl you happen to be looking for, the body type, and all the other personal preferences make it impossible to accurately make a recommendation. Your impression is correct, they are comparable. Beyond that, any recomendations are personal opinions.

The World
01-14-08, 16:40
It really depends on many factors. I think the only obvious fixed difference is that 37D tries to do a line up (varies based on day of week, time of day, etc) while K let's you "interview" them one at a time. The obvious variables such as the type of girl you happen to be looking for, the body type, and all the other personal preferences make it impossible to accurately make a recommendation. Your impression is correct, they are comparable. Beyond that, any recomendations are personal opinions.

Have to say, I've been to both (K Pressure probably more than 37D) and have generally been more impressed with K Pressure. Find the K Pressure girls are more GFE and a bit more fun.

However I think I've gone at funny times to 37D, as my line ups have normally been one or two girls. It may just be timing for me, i.e. having to go at peak (weekend or after work).

Johnny Rocket
01-14-08, 19:17
I went to 37D. Was much busier than I expected it to be. I was shown 3 girls, all with some extra meat on their bones, which I don't mind so much, and they were attractive enough but I've seen a lot better there. The mamasan said, "I bring you 3 girls, all big ball [tits]." As we all know, in HK "big tits" means chubby.

However Elaine looked okay and seemed to have a good attitude and I wasn't in the mood to argue. So I took her. And she did have big tits for a Chinese.

The experience was nothing remarkable, except that when we finished she tried to encourage me to give her a second shot. I declined because I knew I wouldn't be able to do it in time... the phone rang as we got into the shower, as I always take the whole time to fuck the girl.

Won't repeat but I wouldn't kick her out of bed either.

Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket

Mr Fork
01-15-08, 03:35
For members who have used the 141 website -- are the photos generally accurate? I know a lot of them are taken by a professional photographer, or in a studio, or photoshopped and so forth. But how good a representation is it?

StuBaby22
01-15-08, 03:46
Can enybody give me the court ruling that was handed down on 20Dec. Ref thread 1350 on Dec 19.

Am interested to know as my girlfriend lives nder these conditions and could even be the same manager.

Rancher Joe
01-15-08, 06:13
Rancher Joe, thanks for advice but are the massages carried out by females, is the decor decent with sauna and steam rooms?This is a reflexology type of place but you get a private room (not curtains) and the staff are all female unless you get a foot rub. Mostly in thier late 20's to 30's. Not skimpy outfits, just plain clothes. No sauna and no steam room.

Tom Hay
01-15-08, 08:22
Went to 37D second after losing my way from exit A1 at Yau Ma Tei. Took me around 15 minutes to find it. Found it eventually and took the lift to 2nd floor. I got there at around 8am and it was fairly quiet. Got ushered into a room by an enthuasiastic papasan and told to sit down. A minute later in came a girl. She had a massive rack and look early 30s. Good attitude, grabbed my cock as she was talking. Like her but I wanted someone younger. Second one came in, smaller rack, around the same age. Looked a bit disinterested so I rejected her. At this point the papasan was getting a bit impatient but I stood my ground. In came Michelle next. Late 20s, nice rack and nice face. A bit shy and passive, didn't like what I saw so I demanded a next girl despite of a bit of pushing from the papasan. Next in came Lok-Ee. Not a pretty as Michelle, but had a nice persoanity. She was bubbly and hugged me as soon as she came in. I would prefer Michelle look but Lok-Ee looks like a more complete package.

Settled on her, paid $360 to the papasan and she took me up to 5th floor I think. Paid $80 for the room and she hugged me as soon as we got in the room. We then stripped and got into the shower together. In the shower and scrub me clean everywhere. She kept cleaning my ass and junior. I was thinking enough of the ass cleaning already. I am clean but I let her do her thing not wanting to disappoint her. She looked around 25 but she told me she's 30. She has a slightly saggy B-cup but still nice to play with. Nice ass and attractive eyes. She gave me some BBBJ in the shower which was nice but not spectacular. I then jumped out of the shower and she continued to clean herself. I like the room with the mirror on the side and on the top. You can see everything which is a real turn on.

Finally she cleaned herself and asked me to lie on my chest. She then proceed to take out some wet wipes and started wiping her hand and then my ass a few times. She then stuffed a wet wipe between my arse cheek and left it there. I felt strange but let her do her thing. She then cat bath my all over and rubbed my back with her pointy long nipples which felt good. She did this for around 5 minutes. She then took the wet wipes off and checked my goods. Nodded in approval and gave me the best rimming I have ever had in my life. She was there for ages, not that I am complaining. Finally after around 10-15 minutes she told me to turn around and started to give me a great BBBJ. She was bobbing her head up and down with the right amount of pressure producing the right amount of saliva. I was really enjoying myself and thought I would have cummed if I didn't slow her down on a few occasion. She tried to deep throat me but couldn't. (Not that I am big or anything) but I appreciate her effort. She continued doing this for 10 minutes when the phone rang and said times up. I was like fuck!! She then asked me if I wanted an extension. Of course I said yes. She then continue to suck me off for the next 5-10 minutes. She said you are enjoying this aren't you and I said yes. she said you don't wanna fuck me? I said of course, let's do it now before you suck me dry. Put on a condom and did a cowgirl. Man this girl has one tight pussy and knows how to move. Plus the image in the mirror turned me on even more. She was humping and grinding like no tomorrow. She got really wet and I started to play with her ass and inserting half of a finger in. she said it hurt but let me do it gently anyway. We then switch to her favourite position, the missionary. She starting to moan real loud and started bucking her hips real hard and fast. I couldn't stand it and came. She didn't care and continue to hump and grind and she refused to let me stop. She kept asking me to continue humping and don't stop. She then asked me to assume a missionary position that gets in contact with her clit a bit more and asked me to hold it there and she started to move really vigorously. After around 3 minutes she came with a loud scream and a strong judder. Her face was all shrivelled up and she was grabbing the sheets for dear life with her hands. She had a massive orgasm and I loved it. We then just collapsed trying to gasp for air. We finally made it to the shower and I got out and got dressed. She asked me why am I dressed? Don't I want to go for another round? I would have and loved to but I had other comittments that night so I can't.

Got dressed when out of the room around 9.20pm. Piad the papasan another $180 for the extension. Had a cup of tea and got out with weak knees. Before I left, I saw a real hottie who was around 21, 5'6, drop dead gorgeous body. Will have to do her next time.

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Rick Hunter
01-15-08, 09:06
Stubaby at any given time there are likely close to 1,000 girls living in these sorts of boarding houses and that is only counting Indos, Filas and Thais so I doubt your gf has the same manager. As for the verdict I forget but it believe it was guilty with some insignificant penalty.


Can enybody give me the court ruling that was handed down on 20Dec. Ref thread 1350 on Dec 19.

Am interested to know as my girlfriend lives nder these conditions and could even be the same manager.

The World
01-15-08, 14:53
For members who have used the 141 website -- are the photos generally accurate? I know a lot of them are taken by a professional photographer, or in a studio, or photoshopped and so forth. But how good a representation is it?

lets just say the guy who does the photo shopping knows his way round the software ;-)

the girls that i have gone to on the 141 sites are the girls on in the photos, but in real life don't look as stunning as in the photos.

ManonsanBoy
01-15-08, 17:32
By the way, guys, if you have in your possession Viagra without a prescription, you may be charged with unlawful possession of a poison in Hong Kong.

FL Wingman
01-15-08, 17:48
I am coming in on FEB 14 around 10pm and was wondering if I should proceed to CP or spend the night in HK. Anyone have any advice on this issue? It looks like the trains have stopped at this point. If I do stay in HK where should I stay? I have read extensively but not found anything on this.

Thanks,

Wingman

Timewaster
01-16-08, 01:01
Was in SE Asia for a few weeks and had about 5-6 days in HK.

8 Mongok road

Managed to find the address, but didn't see anything looking like a brothel. Most likely I was not at the right spot

Shanghai&Soy Street street walkers

Walked over there a few times and they're usually 2-3 girls. Usually one is very hot. Was quoted 350 HKD for everything by the pimp. Some girls were very young and tempting but did not partake since I was scared where they would take me. So are there more girls later on? I went there around 9-11 PM and saw at most 3 girls.

WanChai

Went there one night. Saw 2 white guys coming out of a club. Tried to go in, but the mamasan stopped me and said "they are full". Is this normal? I'm asian, but definitely look western.

37 Dundas

Went up 1 flight of stairs.

Went there about 4pm. Was told they were very busy. Waited about 5-10 mins and was showned 2 girls. One younger and one a little older but with bigger tits. Chose the bigger tit one. She sat with me for about 5 mins while waiting for a room to be free up. DIdn't speak any english, so had to use my limited cantonese to speak with her. Wasn't particularly friendly or talkative, but since I had limited opportunity to monger during my time in HK, decided to continue anyway.

Once room was free, she showered/cleaned me. Gave me bbj. Had a whole bunch of napkins next to the bed and kept spitting during the bbj. Gave me bbjtocim, but pulled out and used her hand to finish. She then went into the bathroom and heard very deep throated-spits from her. Tried to go at it for a 2nd with cowgirl, but wasn't able to. To summary, it was a so-so experience since she was not very affectionate and didn't really talk much.

141 girl

Went to champaign court in TST. Rang a few bells and got a real winner. Found a local HK girl who spoke english. Quoted me 450 for 40 mins. She says she's 23 and she definitely looks it. Very slim with nice firm boobs. She was very friendly and easy to talk to. Took off my clothes and she giggled at my huge boner I got just from looking at her naked. Showered me up and then went on to cbj and fs. Had alot fun with her and was definitely the best experience I've ever had. Her name is appuru. She is in Champaigne court A 7th flr. Apt 5A. When I got home, I looked her up in 141. For a change, I think she looks much better in person than her pics since her face is pixeled out and in person she is an extremely cute girl next door look. Too bad it was my last day there, otherwise I would be going back to her everynight!

Damn, I will miss HK.

Hat Trick
01-16-08, 06:01
I am coming in on FEB 14 around 10pm and was wondering if I should proceed to CP or spend the night in HK. Anyone have any advice on this issue? It looks like the trains have stopped at this point. If I do stay in HK where should I stay? I have read extensively but not found anything on this.



Wingman,

If you need to be in CP next day, try stay in a nice sauna overnight in HK, SZ, or Macau. Deposit your luggage at the ferry port or nearby hotel concierge.

Much more fun and better value than a HK hotel.

Cheers

HT

Hat Trick
01-16-08, 06:16
For members who have used the 141 website -- are the photos generally accurate? I know a lot of them are taken by a professional photographer, or in a studio, or photoshopped and so forth. But how good a representation is it?

The 141 photos are real working girls, but the problem is they are rarely updated. The girls move around constantly, norm for the industry, better job, another location, etc, so it is hit and miss, mostly miss. Some are just baits try to lure guys in.

The hotel incall photos are mostly baits and nothing more. What can you do once you get there? leave?

If you check 5 places you're lucky if you find one from the pic that's working at the time, and luckier if she looks like you imagined from the pic.

Just goto a 141 building and start knocking on doors and see who is behind door #1. Some have names and pics and hours posted outside. You won't get the same girl twice in one week.


HT

Noman2
01-16-08, 07:05
Going to HK first time in March and looking for hotels advice.

Anyone stayed in Metropark Kowloon (Formerly known as "The Metropole Hotel") How it is?

Wadman
01-16-08, 09:13
True. Just about all the massage joints in Shenzhen will allow you to stay overnight for free, if it's late and you spend enough. Typical is if you start you massage around midnight, and get a 2 hour oily massage. Typical bill for a small place is around 150 rmb or so. Great value if you just need a place to crash for the night. And you get a massage too.

Note: this does not apply to Queen's sauna, it's much more expensive there.



Wingman,

If you need to be in CP next day, try stay in a nice sauna overnight in HK, SZ, or Macau. Deposit your luggage at the ferry port or nearby hotel concierge.

Much more fun and better value than a HK hotel.

Cheers

HT

HenryV
01-16-08, 16:41
Was my initial post asking for help ignored on purpose?

Sammon
01-16-08, 18:48
Most of Shenzhen massage places will let you stay overnight if you get a massage for min 3 hours.
Let us say you go in at 9 pm and get 3 hour massage and even if you fall asleep they will put the comforter on you after the massage, turn the light off and close the door. There is no need to hurry out in the morning. Take your time , use the sauna facilities, shave, brush your teeth etc. All the rooms are really clean. But going for unwanted massage to get a room to sleep is not wise. You can get equally good rooms for 60-80 RMB at some small hotels. You can even bring in a girl.

Pointpanic
01-16-08, 19:58
I will be in Hong Kong for the first time next month and will have a Sunday afternoon free.

As my significant other will be with me (she is visiting her niece), any suggestions on a good massage parlor. I will be staying at the Eaton Hotel.

Thank you.

I am not a Hong Kong expert and do not know the locations of Hong Kong massages. If I had the afternoon free I would go to harbor and buy a trip to Macau and go the 18 Sauna in the Golden Dragon Hotel in Macau. Please go to Macau on ISG to get info.

Or I would try the 141 girls. There is a building at 81 Nathan Road called Harilela Mansion that has a group of girls.

The Hong Kong experts must tell you about massages in Hong Kong.

Timewaster
01-17-08, 01:03
Has anyone been able to get pics from 37Dundas or 141 girls?

I asked the girl at 37D, but she adamantly refused.

I was so mezmerized by the 141 girl, i forgot to ask her.

Timewaster
01-17-08, 01:05
Going to HK first time in March and looking for hotels advice.

Anyone stayed in Metropark Kowloon (Formerly known as "The Metropole Hotel") How it is?I just came back from HK and stayed there.

It is the one on Lai Chi Kok road.

Very convenient and clean, the airport bus stops right in front of it.

Make sure you get a VIP room on the 9th or 10th flr.

Chan James
01-17-08, 17:10
Hello all,

Recently I noted there are some girls (looks like Columbian) stayed at the staircase behind Fenwicks. Anyone know what are they doing? Or any price for them?

Thanks!!

Neuromancer
01-17-08, 17:34
I am not a Hong Kong expert and do not know the locations of Hong Kong massages. If I had the afternoon free I would go to harbor and buy a trip to Macau and go the 18 Sauna in the Golden Dragon Hotel in Macau. Please go to Macau on ISG to get info.

Or I would try the 141 girls. There is a building at 81 Nathan Road called Harilela Mansion that has a group of girls.

The Hong Kong experts must tell you about massages in Hong Kong.More familiar with HK side. Tons in North Point and a good one in Causeway Bay (called Blue Sky). On Kowloon side, there's Sun Hot Sauna (you can find the place in one of those tourist maps that they pass out) in TST (nice facilities but the only two times I've been there had sort of bad service). There are few more in East TST, Noble Sauna and can't remember the name of the other one.

HenryV
01-17-08, 22:05
Can someone give me the exact location of K Pressure.

Yes, I have searched previous post and all I came up with were comments prefaced with: "its about here."

Also, I noticed someone called it "Man's Paradise," what is the correct name.

Any information would be helpful.

Thank you.

Stargm
01-18-08, 02:03
Can someone give me the exact location of K Pressure.

Yes, I have searched previous post and all I came up with were comments prefaced with: "its about here."

Also, I noticed someone called it "Man's Paradise," what is the correct name.

Any information would be helpful.

Thank you.Suggest you look at Maps section. Pictures of the entrance and location maps have been provided. A lot of work done by Tiger 888

HenryV
01-18-08, 15:51
Thank you.



Suggest you look at Maps section. Pictures of the entrance and location maps have been provided. A lot of work done by Tiger 888

HenryV
01-18-08, 22:23
I would like to make a quite public response to the following:


learn how to use the PM function. The entire board does not need to see your "thank you".

With 308 posts, you should know better, but then again, looking at your old posts, it looks like not knowing better is how you got to 308 posts anyhow.

Also, please do not demand that people on the board help you. Especially since the information you were seeking could have been found on the ROD section.

1.Good manners (i.e., Thank you) - public or otherwise - is never inconvenient.

2. Thank you researching my previous posts, and giving your sage conclusion. I think you need a hobby.

3. Lastly, I never "demanded" anything. Notwhithstanding, I believe the purpose of this board is to assist each other.

Oliver 0205
01-19-08, 08:54
Hello all,

Recently I noted there are some girls (looks like Columbian) stayed at the staircase behind Fenwicks. Anyone know what are they doing? Or any price for them?

Thanks!!Sometimes some Colombians sell colombian food at these stairs and the girls go there to eat. Next day they sell some clothes which somebody brought from Shenzen or Guangzhou. If you close with a colombian and she takes you there it is nice, because the food really tastes good.

Trouble79
01-19-08, 09:48
Hi,

I have a few friends coming to HK from the 7th to the 10th Feb. I understand that's not the very best time to visit HK, but this was a good match for all of them. This is the first time I am in HK during Chinese New Year and I am getting a little scared that everything is closed. To cut it short, any idea if the likes of Fenwick and Neptune are going to be open during those days? Or at least onfriday/saturday? What abt the 141?

Any idea about non chinese restaurant and normal bars during those days?

I think my friends would kill me if everything is shut down!

Thanks,

Trouble

Pointpanic
01-19-08, 17:01
On Feb 29 and March 1 my brother and his friend will be in HK, staying in Kowloon hotel. That is a Friday and Saturday. My brother has been in HK twice and knows the general area of Kowloon but not HK Central. They want to go bar hopping and I gave them three bars to go to: Hari's, JJ's in Hyatt and Sticky Fingers(do not know if he can find SF) It will be the other man's FIRST night in Asia.

I told them to go to Macau on Saturday for 18 Sauna and my brother knows about the 141 situation.

Are there any other tips to give him? Tsieh tsieh.

BTW I thank you guys for mentioning the three bars in your posts. I would not about them but for ISG.

Lilojo
01-20-08, 16:48
Went to 37D second after losing my way from exit A1 at Yau Ma Tei.
Settled on her, paid $360 to the papasan and she took me up to 5th floor I think. Paid $80 for the room.

She continued doing this for 10 minutes when the phone rang and said times up. I was like fuck!! She then asked me if I wanted an extension. Of course I said yes.
She asked me why am I dressed? Don't I want to go for another round? I would have and loved to but I had other comittments that night so I can't.

Piad the papasan another $180 for the extension.

This was a trick to get an extension. A few years ago, the papasan/mamasan actually used to discourage this behaviour. However, with the decrease in business volume, I guess it is now tolearted. A really good deal of $440 become $620. Of course, that all depended on the girl and whether you had a really goood time or not. If the service was poor, then beware that the girl was just spending a long time on the prliminaries to get the extra $180 for the extension.

Acer V
01-21-08, 02:59
Don't worry, most if not all of the bars and businesses in Hong Kong maintain normal operating hours during the Lunar New Year. The New Year's eve is a traditional 'stay at home with family day' for the locals. Some shops and restuarants may close early on that day. Most remain open. Fenwicks and Neptunes will definitely be open.


Hi,

I have a few friends coming to HK from the 7th to the 10th Feb. I understand that's not the very best time to visit HK, but this was a good match for all of them. This is the first time I am in HK during Chinese New Year and I am getting a little scared that everything is closed. To cut it short, any idea if the likes of Fenwick and Neptune are going to be open during those days? Or at least onfriday/saturday? What abt the 141?

Any idea about non chinese restaurant and normal bars during those days?

I think my friends would kill me if everything is shut down!

Thanks,

Trouble

Tiger 888
01-21-08, 04:26
don't worry, most if not all of the bars and businesses in hong kong maintain normal operating hours during the lunar new year. the new year's eve is a traditional 'stay at home with family day' for the locals. some shops and restuarants may close early on that day. most remain open. fenwicks and neptunes will definitely be open.there are two days in the year where the hordes are out downtown and i try to avoid being there if possible. that's christmas eve and the second day of chinese new year in the evening (between 6 and 10 pm) when they do the fireworks. tst will be closed for traffic, mtr entries are one way only and you can't decide the direction and the speed you walk at. but even then bars and restaurants are mostly open.

Mr Blister
01-21-08, 20:17
there are two days in the year where the hordes are out downtown and i try to avoid being there if possible. that's christmas eve and the second day of chinese new year in the evening (between 6 and 10 pm) when they do the fireworks. tst will be closed for traffic, mtr entries are one way only and you can't decide the direction and the speed you walk at. but even then bars and restaurants are mostly open.will there be girls at 37d and k-pressure on the night of the 9th of feb?

Mr Blister
01-21-08, 20:20
there are two days in the year where the hordes are out downtown and i try to avoid being there if possible. that's christmas eve and the second day of chinese new year in the evening (between 6 and 10 pm) when they do the fireworks. tst will be closed for traffic, mtr entries are one way only and you can't decide the direction and the speed you walk at. but even then bars and restaurants are mostly open.will there be girls the night of feb 9th in 37d/k-pressure?

Thor93
01-22-08, 07:44
i landed in hong kong after 11pm on monday night. rushed through immigration, changed some money, ran to the train, and finally ended up in my hotel on the kowloon side around 12:30. so now here i am, wide awake and horny.

i figured my options were to call for a hotel reservation on 141, walk over to either sticky fingers or the holiday inn, or bite the bullet and take a cab to fenwicks in wanchai. i did call 141 and spoke to a guy who spoke english, but the terms did not thrill me and it would only be for 45 minutes and he was quoting a lot for an overnight. my past experiences at sticky fingers or holiday inn were never great, so fenwicks won.

got there around 1:15am and the place had a good crowd. so i did my usual stroll around the place to see what might interest me. i had one vietnamese girl try to latch on to me, but it just didn't feel right. and then i started talking to a really nice looking girl from laos. she wanted 1500 for st. since it was almost 2am by then, i countered with 1000 until morning since i was over on the kowloon side. she didn't counter, but gave me a kiss on the cheek and moved off.

so i strolled around some more looking. my feeling is that when a good one comes along you will know it. and sure enough, she came along. i am just standing there minding my own business and suddenly this nice looking girl comes up to me, wraps her arms around me, and says she wants to fuck me tonight- a very aggressive approach.

i was trying to figure out if she was drunk or what, but she did seem to be in control of herself. it was really easy to have a real conversation with her. she told me she was 29, but the body looked solid and she told me she had never had any kids. i found out she was from the philippines but spoke excellent english. she had been married to a dutch guy and was working to keep her house in the philippines

she was definitely pushing hard for me to take her. i asked how much for overnight and she said 1500. i countered with 1200 and she accepted. and off we went in the taxi.

and the taxi ride was something. we get in and the first thing i know she is on my lap facing me. and then she is on the floor ready to pull the zipper open and give me a bj right there. i calmed her down a bit, figured it best to wait until we got back to the room.

in the room, the only word i can use to describe is that she essentially raped me. with no hesitation she immediately goes into an incredible bbbj that ended with a cim. this girl was really good . we manged two more pops before she finally left in the morning.

all in all a really good evening. i have only been to fenwick's twice now and both times have pulled out winners. i hope third time will be just as good.

SE Asia Joe
01-22-08, 10:11
On Feb 29 and March 1 my brother and his friend will be in HK, staying in Kowloon hotel. That is a Friday and Saturday. My brother has been in HK twice and knows the general area of Kowloon but not HK Central. They want to go bar hopping and I gave them three bars to go to: Hari's, JJ's in Hyatt and Sticky Fingers(do not know if he can find SF) It will be the other man's FIRST night in Asia.

I told them to go to Macau on Saturday for 18 Sauna and my brother knows about the 141 situation.

Are there any other tips to give him? Tsieh tsieh.

BTW I thank you guys for mentioning the three bars in your posts. I would not about them but for ISG.
JJ's is at the Hong Kong side Grand Hyatt, at wanchai North - and if they can make it to Hong Kong side, then they can manage to go to Lockhart Road, wanchai (where most P4P action for Foreigners are to be found) nearby or to Lan Kwai Fong in Central district where its more of a pick up scene - but of course still interspersed with some ladies of the night prowling around. A sort of similar but toned down area in Kowloon that is "inspired" by Lan Kwai Fong is the Knutsford Terrace area in Tsim Sha Tsui parrallel to Kimberley Road cross of Observatory road. BTW - kimberley rd is where Champagne Court A and B - where there are a lot of 1441's are.
Se Asia Joe

Essi
01-22-08, 10:32
Hi

A very nice report.

The fenwik do you mean the shopping centre? which floor are the girls in coffe shops?/ or they just walk around????? whats the origin of this horny girl????

Thanks for info.

ESSI

Thor93
01-22-08, 14:45
Hi

A very nice report.

The fenwik do you mean the shopping centre? which floor are the girls in coffe shops?/ or they just walk around????? whats the origin of this horny girl????

Thanks for info.

ESSI

Fenwicks is a bar on Lockhard Street in Wanchai. It is filled with lots of freelance girls. Basically it is shooting ducks in a barrel. Impossible to miss as long as you have money.

The lady in question was from the Philippines and she was about as horny as they come. I am still recovering, but I will probably see her again on Thursday night. I am feeling lazy tonight and also not very horny, so I may just pop into Sticky Fingers for a look.

Neuromancer
01-22-08, 16:03
With the cratering of the Hang Seng over the past few days, maybe it's a good chance to go bargain shopping!

Not very familiar with the Flipper scene, but many of the 141 girls I've know like to play the market. When the market goes down so severely, they realize that they need to work harder!

Thoughts?

Thor93
01-22-08, 23:58
ok, so night #2 and i am still not really feeling like doing anything. out to a business dinner and back to the hotel around 9:30. i do some work in the room and decide it is time to check out what is happening around the shangri la where i am staying.

i peek into the hotel bar and see what looks to be a working chinese girl sitting alone in the bar with an empty chair next to her. i consider taking the seat but figure if she is working the shangri la she is looking for megabucks. she is not really the greatest looking, more like a 6 or 7 on a scale of 10. not really my type, but not totally rejectable.

so i go out to check out sticky fingers. as usual they have a great band in there playing. i manage to stand there for a whole set with no one, including the waitresses bothering me. but in the sparse crowd i don't see any girls of interest.

i meander on out and am now debating whether i want to walk over to the holiday inn. but i am lazy and not really horny and decide to go back to the hotel. i can't resist checking on my one chinese working girl to see how she is doing. and guess what, she is still sitting there alone. i can't resist and take the stool next to her.

at first she is pretty quiet but then we get to talking. she is 25, from beijing and has been in hk for a week. so now i figure it is time to get the pitch to take he up to the room. but when i ask what she is doing in hk, she tells me she is here working on a film. she is the director's assistant. i am naturally suspicious but just maybe there is a freebie in here. she tells me she has to work the next day at 9am - a real working girl maybe.

she keeps telling my how she really likes to mixed race babies and wants one of her own. this gets repeated several times and she is telling me how she wants a western nose like mine. am i being set up to be a sperm donor? the thought does cross my mind.

she sticks to the film story although i keep trying to shake it. we talk and close the bar in the hotel. i suggest we heard over to sticky fingers and see the band for one more drink. she agrees and even tells me she is willing to just go up to the room. but i figure if this is going to be a freebie, i should not appear too anxious.

over in stickly fingers the place is now more filled up with filipino working girls. but as per my previous observations there the clientel is older and the girls equally over the hill. i only saw one or two i would bother with.

we do one drink there and then it is back to the room. i think this is going to be something, a freebie in hk. but alas, back in the room just when the action is about to begin, she asks if i am going to give her money. what the f**k?

she wanted $2000 hk and after the previous night, there was no way she could have compared to that at much less for overnight. she only wanted the money to go shopping. since i was not thinking of doing any mongering i had not changed any money and was low on hk money. she offered to take my us cash, but in the end i decided it wasn't worth it. it was late and i had to get up early.

i gave her $100hk for generous cab fare. i told her she can't spring the money thing at the last minute. if she had been upfront downstairs, i would have told her no thanks and been on my way, but she stuck to this story that she was an normal girl and never talked about money . i kind of knew all along that this would be the outcome and maybe i should have brought up the money myself, but when she claims she is there on normal business, i am not going to insult her by offering money. i know that is a good way to get a drink thrown in your face with many non-working girls.

so the freebie in the end wasn't. i had a good time though for a while. if i had not had the great night before, i might been angry. but all in all this made for a soft adventure and story - i probably would not have been any good last night anyway. i don't think there was much left from the first one.

Eee 888
01-23-08, 10:31
My past experiences at Sticky Fingers or Holiday Inn were never great, so Fenwicks won. Have always been interested in the wan chai scene.

But whats it like for Chinese. Are the girls more reluctant to approach locals?

Are there many Chinese in places like Fenwicks and Neptune?

Sanshiro
01-23-08, 11:27
Selling Short Against the Box ;-)


With the cratering of the Hang Seng over the past few days, maybe it's a good chance to go bargain shopping!

Not very familiar with the Flipper scene, but many of the 141 girls I've know like to play the market. When the market goes down so severely, they realize that they need to work harder!

Thoughts?

Gren62
01-24-08, 04:01
have always been interested in the wan chai scene.

but whats it like for chinese. are the girls more reluctant to approach locals?

are there many chinese in places like fenwicks and neptune?there a very few chinese in these places, be it men or working girls. fenwicks charges non-whites a cover charge. neptune and laguna welcomes all, but it seems local chinese men seem to prefer karaoke bars, massage parlors, and other more local-oriented establishments. by speech and appearance, i'm obviously american born chinese and the girls in wan chai don't have any hesitation of leaving with me. it's only when they hear me speak cantonese to the taxi driver or someone else do they ask to see my u.s. passport to make sure i'm not a cop.

Eee 888
01-24-08, 08:16
there a very few chinese in these places, be it men or working girls. fenwicks charges non-whites a cover charge. neptune and laguna welcomes all, but it seems local chinese men seem to prefer karaoke bars, massage parlors, and other more local-oriented establishments. by speech and appearance, i'm obviously american born chinese and the girls in wan chai don't have any hesitation of leaving with me. it's only when they hear me speak cantonese to the taxi driver or someone else do they ask to see my u.s. passport to make sure i'm not a cop.thanks for the reply gren. i'm actually a british born chinese. its a bit crap that fenwicks will ask for a cover charge! once heard they asked a fella for an exit fee on his way out, instead of an entrance fee! he got away with it at the end. but i'm not a big chap so i might not be so lucky. must have a gander at neptunes i guess.

Joe Banana
01-24-08, 09:27
Trouble 79. Public holidays can be the best times to go to Fenwick, Laguna or New Makati. All the maids will be there from 2pm onwards as they will have the day off. Good chance of a freebie. Enjoy.

SE Asia Joe
01-24-08, 10:31
there a very few chinese in these places, be it men or working girls. fenwicks charges non-whites a cover charge. neptune and laguna welcomes all, but it seems local chinese men seem to prefer karaoke bars, massage parlors, and other more local-oriented establishments. by speech and appearance, i'm obviously american born chinese and the girls in wan chai don't have any hesitation of leaving with me. it's only when they hear me speak cantonese to the taxi driver or someone else do they ask to see my u.s. passport to make sure i'm not a cop.
actually for a chinese, lockhart road area is not "necessary." you see, this area caters to and is mostly patronized by foreigners who do not speak chinese. consequently, most of the gals there are filipinos and thais with a smattering of english speaking gals from other s.e. asian cuntries. and most chinese do not favor the darker skinned girls - especially if one has to pay such an extra premium which the foreigners seems to not mind paying.

and i'm talking about hk$1,000, 1,500 for girls that you wouldn't pay thb1,500 in thailand or pp3,000 for in pi. and these prices does not include the drinks one usually buys - cheaper if they're at one of the 'independent bars' and much higher priced "ladies drink" (hk$110 or $220 for special ladies drinks!!) at these bars with gals on staff - plus they many times got the gall to charge "bar fines" on top of that!

i've been w/foreigner friends - local ones even - who doesn't blink an eye after spending a total of hk$4 or 5,000 during the evening for a short roll at victoria hotel before going home. ridiculous prices to me!

i can get much better, lower priced and satisfying action away from lockhart rd. - and that is the reason why most chinese will not go there. and besides the action we can find in hong kong we also have the choice of hopping on a train/bus/ferry and get to shenzhen, chang ping, zhuhai and macau within the hour!

se asia joe

Trouble79
01-25-08, 00:19
Thanks Tiger888,AcerV and JoeBanana for your comments.

I feel much more reassured.

Does anyone have any idea abt Macau? Is it possible to do anything interesting over NY?

Thanks,

Trouble

Acer V
01-25-08, 04:21
The best way for the non-whites to avoid the cover charge - walk in with a couple of white guys. If the meatheads on the door try to stop you just point and say "I am with them". On more than a couple of occasions I have seen either a chinese guy or some Indians being hassled as I was walking into Neptunes or Fenwicks. I have helped them out by just telling the doorman that they're with me. The door dick always backs down. I hate racism.



Thanks for the reply Gren. I'm actually a British born Chinese. Its a bit crap that fenwicks will ask for a cover charge! Once heard they asked a fella for an exit fee on his way out, instead of an entrance fee! He got away with it at the end. But I'm not a big chap so I might not be so lucky. Must have a gander at neptunes I guess.

Hk Dog
01-25-08, 05:56
And I'm talking about HK$1,000, 1,500 for girls that you wouldn't pay THB1,500 in Thailand or PP3,000 for in PI. And these prices does not include the drinks one usually buys - cheaper if they're at one of the 'independent bars' and much higher priced "ladies drink" (HK$110 or $220 for special Ladies drinks!!) at these bars with gals on staff - PLUS they many times got the gall to charge "Bar Fines" on top of that!

SE Asia Joe


What a girl asks for and what she gets are 2 different things. If you are looking at the top 10% of girls working the scene, they don't 'work' in their home country. They would never accept local Thai or Phil prices. In fact alot of them supplement their income back in the home countries when customers in HK and Sing fly into BKK or Manila and STILL pay them offshore prices.

I agree there are alot of girls who are not worth the price they ask for but you don't give us what the alternative is.

Are you suggesting the guy just go home and jack off? Are you suggesting he take the Airport Express and take the first flight in the morning to go to BKK or Manila on a crappy airline so that his 'breakeven' fuck cost comes down?

Why do you live in HK? Don't you know that it is cheaper to live in Uganda? Are HK people stupid for paying such high rents?


I prefer SE Asian women over N Asian women for sex. You have to respect that view if you don't agree. So your suggestions of going to Shenzen etc just don't interest me.

Eee 888
01-25-08, 09:43
The best way for the non-whites to avoid the cover charge - walk in with a couple of white guys. If the meatheads on the door try to stop you just point and say "I am with them". On more than a couple of occasions I have seen either a chinese guy or some Indians being hassled as I was walking into Neptunes or Fenwicks. I have helped them out by just telling the doorman that they're with me. The door dick always backs down. I hate racism.Thanks for the tip Acer.

Just for the record, I didn't know the majority of locals frowned on darker skinned women. I for one love bit butts and dark women. Well, a bit of everything actually.

Now where can I find some white friends hehe.

Neuromancer
01-25-08, 17:27
-- cut --

I prefer SE Asian women over N Asian women for sex. You have to respect that view if you don't agree. So your suggestions of going to Shenzen etc just don't interest me.Well, if Joe's suggestion's don't interest you, then you could just ignore them couldn't you? It's not like he called you out for preferring SE Asian women. Seems to me that he was responding to a post by "Gren62", not "HK Dog". And maybe Joe's suggestion's interested some of the other readers on this board.

If you prefer SE Asian women, then why don't you live in a SE Asian country?

Your preferences for SE Asian women just don't interest me.

Johnny Rocket
01-25-08, 20:54
I tried to see 1-4-1 girl Appuru who has been mentioned on this forum before, on 7/F of Champagne Court A.

First, note that Champagne Court A isn't clearly marked. Only B is. However if you walk deeper in you will see that they connect. The elevator for A is closer to the Kimberly Inn sign.

Anyway, Appuru was not only busy, she yelled through the door that she had an appointment later, and there was another guy waiting outside. Jesus.

Didn't have a backup plan, but there were a couple of girls milling around on the other side of the elevator. So I saw one, Ah Sa. She was cute, and spoke excellent English so guys who don't speak Chinese, consider her. She started fucking me without a shower. After about 10 min. I told her I wanted to shower. So after we showered she didn't want to keep going, even though I hadn't finished. She thought I was done and wanted to go again, and wanted me to pay her twice. WTF? I don't think so. So we kept going and I paid the normal price but let her keep the change.

Nothing special but did the trick.

Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket

PS there are some new 1-4-1-type sites on the internet. Anybody have any luck with them?

Timewaster
01-26-08, 01:15
I tried to see 1-4-1 girl Appuru who has been mentioned on this forum before, on 7/F of Champagne Court A.

First, note that Champagne Court A isn't clearly marked. Only B is. However if you walk deeper in you will see that they connect. The elevator for A is closer to the Kimberly Inn sign.

Anyway, Appuru was not only busy, she yelled through the door that she had an appointment later, and there was another guy waiting outside. Jesus.

Didn't have a backup plan, but there were a couple of girls milling around on the other side of the elevator. So I saw one, Ah Sa. She was cute, and spoke excellent English so guys who don't speak Chinese, consider her. She started fucking me without a shower. After about 10 min. I told her I wanted to shower. So after we showered she didn't want to keep going, even though I hadn't finished. She thought I was done and wanted to go again, and wanted me to pay her twice. WTF? I don't think so. So we kept going and I paid the normal price but let her keep the change.

Nothing special but did the trick.

Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket

PS there are some new 1-4-1-type sites on the internet. Anybody have any luck with them?Yeah, she's very busy.

While I was there, her door bell rang alot even with the please wait sign and as I was leaving, she answered her phone for an appointment.

But she is definitely worth the wait.

Thor93
01-26-08, 01:51
Fenwicks is a bar on Lockhard Street in Wanchai. It is filled with lots of freelance girls. Basically it is shooting ducks in a barrel. Impossible to miss as long as you have money.


Last night in HK and I proved myself wrong about it being impossible to miss. It must have been all the guys coming in from some formal affair dressed in kilts. It seems to have upset the balance of things in there.

I met two very nice, very young, very inexperienced filipino girls. One was 18 and it was her very first night. You could see she was shy and the two of them were basically hiding in the corner. I finally got them off on the side and got to talking to them.

It was the usual story you get when you listen. No money back in the philippines. They need to work but hate it. The older one shows me a picture of her baby and starts crying. The younger one is overwhelmed by the whole thing. It was enough to make me feel guilty.

Anyway I tried to talk them into leaving with me, but they were quite content to just wander around and avoid anything serious. The younger one said next time. I watched them repeat the same act with other guys. They were there to work but weren't really into it. I guess they thought if they gave me a good enough sob story I would slip them some money.

It was that kind of night though, I wandered around between Fenwicks, Laguna, and Neptunes, but never found the right girl. I finally gave up at 4:30 and reluctantly headed back to the hotel alone.

Some nights even the best of us can't hit one of the ducks in the barrel.

Hk Dog
01-26-08, 03:52
Well, if Joe's suggestion's don't interest you, then you could just ignore them couldn't you? It's not like he called you out for preferring SE Asian women. Seems to me that he was responding to a post by "Gren62", not "HK Dog". And maybe Joe's suggestion's interested some of the other readers on this board.

If you prefer SE Asian women, then why don't you live in a SE Asian country?

Your preferences for SE Asian women just don't interest me.


Yes he did. Reread his post. It says the 'premium' is something only foreigners pay which implies it is wrong.

His whole argument makes no sense. Why does he live in HK? Doesn't he know it is alot cheaper to live in Shenzen and commute? That is the same argument he gives for not paying a Thai girl in HK a 'premium' since its cheaper in BKK.

If he doesn't do the same on his housing situation then he is just being hypocritical.

Wadman
01-26-08, 11:51
HK Dog,

Has it not occurred to you that SEA Joe (and others) may have reasons to live in HK that are not mongering related? It may be because of family, business/job, safety, whatever. Mongering is only a hobby.



Yes he did. Reread his post. It says the 'premium' is something only foreigners pay which implies it is wrong.

His whole argument makes no sense. Why does he live in HK? Doesn't he know it is alot cheaper to live in Shenzen and commute? That is the same argument he gives for not paying a Thai girl in HK a 'premium' since its cheaper in BKK.

If he doesn't do the same on his housing situation then he is just being hypocritical.

Pointpanic
01-26-08, 18:06
Yes he did. Reread his post. It says the 'premium' is something only foreigners pay which implies it is wrong.

His whole argument makes no sense. Why does he live in HK? Doesn't he know it is alot cheaper to live in Shenzen and commute? That is the same argument he gives for not paying a Thai girl in HK a 'premium' since its cheaper in BKK.

If he doesn't do the same on his housing situation then he is just being hypocritical.

I do not understnad why you are arguing with SE Asia Joe. Maybe he wants or needs to live in HK for business or family reasons. Like many HK residents, he goes to CP for short visits. He has the best of many worlds. He liveis in bustling HK and takes a train or van to CP whenever he wants.

He is right. Wanchai is not the local Chinese

Neuromancer
01-27-08, 07:07
Yes he did. Reread his post. It says the 'premium' is something only foreigners pay which implies it is wrong.

His whole argument makes no sense. Why does he live in HK? Doesn't he know it is alot cheaper to live in Shenzen and commute? That is the same argument he gives for not paying a Thai girl in HK a 'premium' since its cheaper in BKK.

If he doesn't do the same on his housing situation then he is just being hypocritical.Re-reading his post, he said "especially if one has to pay such an extra premium which the Foreigners seems to not mind paying". That's a far cry from saying that "only foreigners pay" and that it is "wrong". I (and I assume many other Asians) pay a hefty premium in Macau (relative to 141 girls) and I don't see anything wrong with it as I view it as a much higher quality product.

Don't be so sensitive dude.

Joe Banana
01-27-08, 10:27
SEJ, I don't know Chang Ping. Can you elaborate a bit please.

Neuromancer
01-27-08, 16:28
SEJ, I don't know Chang Ping. Can you elaborate a bit please.Check the China-Dongguan thread. Tons of info on Chang Ping. Seems like there have been alot of crackdowns lately, so probably not the best time to go right now.

Basically, CP has alot of cheap pussy and also some higher end ones. Personally prefer the higher end ones, but don't mind going a little ghetto once in a while.

Have only been to the Dongguan area three times so it's not like I'm an expert or anything, but happy to help if you have any questions.

Hk Dog
01-28-08, 01:59
Re-reading his post, he said "especially if one has to pay such an extra premium which the Foreigners seems to not mind paying". That's a far cry from saying that "only foreigners pay" and that it is "wrong". I (and I assume many other Asians) pay a hefty premium in Macau (relative to 141 girls) and I don't see anything wrong with it as I view it as a much higher quality product.

Don't be so sensitive dude.


Why is it justified for you to ask me why I don't live in a SE Asian country when I like SE Asian woman? When I asked why SE Asia Joe why he doesn't live in Shenzen or Uganda because the rent is cheaper that apparantly isn't the same argument.

I never complained about the cost of pussy and understand that if you live in HK you have to pay the higher price for pussy and rent because of other factors.



There is NO premium for SE Asian pussy. It shows a total lack of understanding of basic economics that the hookers seem to have figured out but some mongerers are still scratching their heads.

If you were a Thai hooker and you can get a 14 visa to HK, they can figure out the choices.

Fuck 1 guy every day in Thailand for 1,500 Baht netting you 5,300 HKD profit.

Or go to HK where SE Asia Joe thinks they should charge the same price.

So they make 5,300 but then subtract the plane ticket (-2,000) subtract the rent (100 HKD per day , 1,400) subtract food (50 per day 700) which leaves you net 3,200.

For Flippers the costs are even higher since they usually have to pay an 'agent' to get into the country.

Why would someone in their right mind take a 40% paycut? You have to fuck 6 more guys just to make the same money if you stayed in Thailand.

The premium is the fixed costs that must be amortized over time. If I am in HK and I want to fuck a SE Asian chick I have 2 choices. Pay the price in HK or fly down. The cost for 1 fuck when you include plane fare and hotel is far higher than just paying the price in HK. .

Chinese pussy is cheaper since the girls are to fucking up to 10 guys per day. There marginal cost for a fuck goes down dramatically. Thai's and Flippers can't get into the assembly line fuck machine (like 141's etc) so their marginal cost of a fuck remains high.

I have things to do on the weekends in HK and am not willing to fly to Thailand/Phillipines for the weekend every time I want to get laid. So it is far cheaper for me to fuck in HK.

Qwerty On88
01-28-08, 14:20
New bar similar Sticky Fingers , Knutsford terrace , Tsim Sha Tsui.

Have fun - but watch out for the Thais.

Neuromancer
01-28-08, 14:32
Why is it justified for you to ask me why I don't live in a SE Asian country when I like SE Asian woman? When I asked why SE Asia Joe why he doesn't live in Shenzen or Uganda because the rent is cheaper that apparantly isn't the same argument.

I never complained about the cost of pussy and understand that if you live in HK you have to pay the higher price for pussy and rent because of other factors.

There is NO premium for SE Asian pussy. It shows a total lack of understanding of basic economics that the hookers seem to have figured out but some mongerers are still scratching their heads.

If you were a Thai hooker and you can get a 14 visa to HK, they can figure out the choices.

Fuck 1 guy every day in Thailand for 1,500 Baht netting you 5,300 HKD profit.

Or go to HK where SE Asia Joe thinks they should charge the same price.

So they make 5,300 but then subtract the plane ticket (-2,000) subtract the rent (100 HKD per day , 1,400) subtract food (50 per day 700) which leaves you net 3,200.

For Flippers the costs are even higher since they usually have to pay an 'agent' to get into the country.

Why would someone in their right mind take a 40% paycut? You have to fuck 6 more guys just to make the same money if you stayed in Thailand.

The premium is the fixed costs that must be amortized over time. If I am in HK and I want to fuck a SE Asian chick I have 2 choices. Pay the price in HK or fly down. The cost for 1 fuck when you include plane fare and hotel is far higher than just paying the price in HK. .

Chinese pussy is cheaper since the girls are to fucking up to 10 guys per day. There marginal cost for a fuck goes down dramatically. Thai's and Flippers can't get into the assembly line fuck machine (like 141's etc) so their marginal cost of a fuck remains high.

I have things to do on the weekends in HK and am not willing to fly to Thailand/Phillipines for the weekend every time I want to get laid. So it is far cheaper for me to fuck in HK.Well, I think that you've completely convoluted the whole argument. I don't see where anybody is disputing your economic case. From my interpretation of previous posts, all Joe said was that:

1) In HK, relative to other options in HK, there is a premium for Flipper p*ssy. There's nothing wrong with this if you prefer Flipper p*ssy. There are numerous examples of mongerers paying a premium to get what they want. Think about all the Chinese running to KTVs. The premium there is much higher than the Flipper premium. And I fully admit that I'm happy to pay that premium because I get a different product. One that I am willing to pay for. Of course, I you can't have filet mignon every day. Gotta mix it in with the fast food burgers.

2) Wan Chai is not for Chinese. I've only been to the WG bars a couple times. If I go there, I usually prefer the cheap drinking holes. But of the times I've been there, the ratio of Chinese men to White men is what. 1: 9? Something like that? So CLEARLY, Chinese men do NOT like Wan Chai. As a Chinese man, I DO NOT like Wan Chai action. Hey, no problem. I'm sure most white dudes DO NOT KTV. It's not a statement of what is "better". It's just a simple observation.

Ok, I'm done wasting my time on you.

Pointpanic
01-28-08, 16:21
Why is it justified for you to ask me why I don't live in a SE Asian country when I like SE Asian woman? When I asked why SE Asia Joe why he doesn't live in Shenzen or Uganda because the rent is cheaper that apparantly isn't the same argument.

I never complained about the cost of pussy and understand that if you live in HK you have to pay the higher price for pussy and rent because of other factors.



There is NO premium for SE Asian pussy. It shows a total lack of understanding of basic economics that the hookers seem to have figured out but some mongerers are still scratching their heads.

If you were a Thai hooker and you can get a 14 visa to HK, they can figure out the choices.

Fuck 1 guy every day in Thailand for 1,500 Baht netting you 5,300 HKD profit.

Or go to HK where SE Asia Joe thinks they should charge the same price.

So they make 5,300 but then subtract the plane ticket (-2,000) subtract the rent (100 HKD per day , 1,400) subtract food (50 per day 700) which leaves you net 3,200.

For Flippers the costs are even higher since they usually have to pay an 'agent' to get into the country.

Why would someone in their right mind take a 40% paycut? You have to fuck 6 more guys just to make the same money if you stayed in Thailand.

The premium is the fixed costs that must be amortized over time. If I am in HK and I want to fuck a SE Asian chick I have 2 choices. Pay the price in HK or fly down. The cost for 1 fuck when you include plane fare and hotel is far higher than just paying the price in HK. .

Chinese pussy is cheaper since the girls are to fucking up to 10 guys per day. There marginal cost for a fuck goes down dramatically. Thai's and Flippers can't get into the assembly line fuck machine (like 141's etc) so their marginal cost of a fuck remains high.

I have things to do on the weekends in HK and am not willing to fly to Thailand/Phillipines for the weekend every time I want to get laid. So it is far cheaper for me to fuck in HK.


Everything you said is true. Thais and Viet girls are more expensive in HK or Macau than in Thailand or Vietnam One has to pay the shipping costs. SEA Joe is correct when he says that local Chinese men do not want to pay the shipping costs and do not really appreciate SE Asian girls.

Thor93
01-28-08, 17:38
After reading a lot of different and very useful posts here about the 141 girls, I finally did the Hotel Reservation route. Saw a really nice looking Chinese, non-english speaking girl. Called the number, they told me to get to the hotel in half an hour.

The hotel was probably a 2-3 star hotel with an english name. Lots of tourists there, so I felt very safe and comfortable.

Called again from the lobby of the designated hotel and got the room number. Went upstairs and got greeted by the girl who was every bit as good as her picture. The room while small, was clean.

All in all, very good value for the money. She could not speak any english, but that was no problem. I did bring my own condom which was a good thing. Hers looked awfully small. The session was really good though as she appeared to really get into it also.

The trick in setting this up for us non-Chinese speakers is to make sure you find someone on the phone that speaks decent english to guide you to the hotel. The first number I called, I could not understand what hotel they were directing me to. They offered to talk to the taxi driver, but I was not comfortable with that. Called another number and had no difficulty understanding them. Found out I could actually walk to the hotel rather than have to take a cab.

Macho Dik
01-28-08, 18:28
dear mate,

as i still have 1 plance ticket to hk whihc is soon to be expired. i wish i can visit macau and evetually to hsia chuan tao.

i need your guidance on the following questions;

1) i will only enroute to macau thru hk airport, i understand their is the speed boat but i don't. know how much it cost and how frequent the schedule/ per 30 mins or per hours in every hours? and how many mins for the journey?

2) when i get to macau, how can i get to the next and final destionation of my trip which is hsia chuan tao "下川島". i understand there are busses from macau to that place but i want to know if i can take speed boat to the said island, since i was there only 1 times and last time was accompanied by some friends, which i wont be asking their giudance for some reason.

i wish to visit that place this coming march after the chinese new years and i need to start workinjg on the plan very soon.

will appreiciate for your guidance.

cheers,


md

Manfest
01-28-08, 20:15
--cut--

1) i will only enroute to macau thru hk airport, i understand their is the speed boat but i don't. know how much it cost and how frequent the schedule/ per 30 mins or per hours in every hours? and how many mins for the journey?

2) when i get to macau, how can i get to the next and final destionation of my trip which is hsia chuan tao "???". i understand there are busses from macau to that place but i want to know if i can take speed boat to the said island, since i was there only 1 times and last time was accompanied by some friends, which i wont be asking their giudance for some reason.

i assume you know how to get to the ferry desk in the airport. at that desk, last i saw about 3 weeks ago, there were ferries starting around 10:40 am until 10 pm, every 1-2 hours depending on time of day (ie less frequent early and late, more frequent middle of day). the cost was less than hkd 200, don't recall exactly. reminder that if you have check in luggage, you usually cannot catch the very next ferry, but rather one that has at least an hour wait time. no luggage = immediate departure. there is a line to get through the gates, bus ride, other terminal entry, etc. this boat takes just under an hour, but still the most convenient imho.

if you arrive at some odd hour (read 11pm - 6am), just get to either kowloon or central macau ferry terminal and catch one of the 24 hour ferries (about hkd 150 plus cost of getting to the terminal). there are cabs (about hkd 300-400), train (airport express, about hkd 90), bus (a11, about hkd 40, another cost of 40 minutes).

last few details: the bus and cab gets you directly to the macau terminal, the train is far and must be walked or cabbed. the ferries are no longer as empty as they used to be, and during weekends, may require waiting for the next boat. the time cost when added up is quite high, take the boat if you can, otherwise cab it to the terminals.

in return for this info, what is hsia chuan tao? please tell us more about it... a new mongering site?

Manfest
01-28-08, 20:30
In return for this info, what is HSIA CHUAN TAO? Please tell us more about it... a new mongering site?


MachoDik,
It seems you've asked numerous times how to get to Macau or Hsia Chuan Tao, but provided no information about it. Tiger888 seemed to answer your questions already a few months ago... Your serial requests for help without contributing is not the purpose of the board. Nevertheless, I'll leave the info as it may help others. Cheers.
M

SE Asia Joe
01-29-08, 10:26
Everything you said is true. Thais and Viet girls are more expensive in HK or Macau than in Thailand or Vietnam One has to pay the shipping costs. SEA Joe is correct when he says that local Chinese men do not want to pay the shipping costs and do not really appreciate SE Asian girls.
Point Panic, Neuromancer, Wadman et al - thanks! I haven't looked at the Hong Kong thread for a week or so and just found all THIS!! Incredible! and I thought that all I was doing was replying Gren62 and giving a vanilla flavored write up about really - really - general stuff!
Hey HK Dog - what is the problem man?
I've read some of your past postings and hey - You like SE Asia Women - go for it. You don't like Chinese gals - that's fine also. Just please don't get on my case coz I ain't got nuthin' to do with you and never even refered to you before. OK?
Peace and Chill! OK?
SE Asia Joe

Neuromancer
01-29-08, 14:58
Point Panic, Neuromancer, Wadman et al - thanks! I haven't looked at the Hong Kong thread for a week or so and just found all THIS!! Incredible! and I thought that all I was doing was replying Gren62 and giving a vanilla flavored write up about really - really - general stuff!

Hey HK Dog - what is the problem man?

I've read some of your past postings and hey - You like SE Asia Women - go for it. You don't like Chinese gals - that's fine also. Just please don't get on my case coz I ain't got nuthin' to do with you and never even refered to you before. OK?
Peace and Chill! OK?

SE Asia JoeLol, it's sort of funny how it's only those dudes who prefer the SE Asian/Wan Chai girls tend to get up in a tizzy when accused of "paying a premium". Seem to recall plenty of posts calling out "foolish Chinese mongers" who pay ridiculous sums of money for KTV and not getting much in return (hey, that sounds like me! ). But don't see anywhere near the defensive reactions to these accusations.

As a disclaimer, I haven't done a detailed study of past posts to count the accusations and defensive remarks. My above comment is merely a reflection of my un-scientific impressions.

Neuromancer
01-29-08, 15:08
Point Panic, Neuromancer, Wadman et al - thanks! I haven't looked at the Hong Kong thread for a week or so and just found all THIS!! Incredible! and I thought that all I was doing was replying Gren62 and giving a vanilla flavored write up about really - really - general stuff!

Hey HK Dog - what is the problem man?

I've read some of your past postings and hey - You like SE Asia Women - go for it. You don't like Chinese gals - that's fine also. Just please don't get on my case coz I ain't got nuthin' to do with you and never even refered to you before. OK?
Peace and Chill! OK?

SE Asia JoeThe price for Flipper and other SE Asian p*ssy in Mong Kok is quite a bit lower isn't it? Seem to remember HKD300-500 or so. Ok, I have absolutely zero idea what these girls look like, but it sort of implies that the economic/shipping fee argument is not correct? Or maybe that the type of girls you would find in MK would be rejected upon application in their home country and that the earnings in HK is just slightly more than the shipping fee since the opportunity cost back home is essentially nil (hence the girl still makes more money from working in HK)?

Of course, you don't get the drinking, flirting, stolen kisses that you'll get from playing in Wan Chai. In the end, I'm thinking that Wan Chai is not so different from KTV. You pay a premium for the flirting and gamesmanship. Same game, different skin color.

Thoughts?

Hk Dog
01-30-08, 01:17
. Ok, I have absolutely zero idea what these girls look like, but it sort of implies that the economic/shipping fee argument is not correct?
Thoughts?


Those SE Asian girls working in MKK are not your typical freelancer in Wan Chai. I know a few of them on the HK side (Vietnam). They have HK ID cards from fake marriages to local men. Also some of them got involved in the assemblyline mass market scence since they owed the Triads some gambling debt.

An average working girl in Thai/Philipines would not usually be sucked into this sort of slave sex labor.

Hk Dog
01-30-08, 01:21
Point Panic, Neuromancer, Wadman et al - thanks! I haven't looked at the Hong Kong thread for a week or so and just found all THIS!! Incredible! and I thought that all I was doing was replying Gren62 and giving a vanilla flavored write up about really - really - general stuff!
Hey HK Dog - what is the problem man?
I've read some of your past postings and hey - You like SE Asia Women - go for it. You don't like Chinese gals - that's fine also. Just please don't get on my case coz I ain't got nuthin' to do with you and never even refered to you before. OK?
Peace and Chill! OK?
SE Asia Joe

I admit I got overdefensive in my first posting. But you have to understand that you initial posting COULD be read a different way than you intended.

And I never said I don't like Chinese chicks. I fuck them just as much as SE Asian. I just prefer SE Asian since they seem to be bred to fuck.

SE Asia Joe
01-30-08, 06:27
I admit I got overdefensive in my first posting. But you have to understand that you initial posting COULD be read a different way than you intended.

And I never said I don't like Chinese chicks. I fuck them just as much as SE Asian. I just prefer SE Asian since they seem to be bred to fuck.
OK - now that we've got THAT out of the way...

IMHO (and its only IMHO, HK dog - before you get all upset at me) and from chit chatting with quite a few and varied WG, KTV, Sauna, SW etc gals, the reason for the differing prices/modus operandi is simply a matter of preference and/or what the gal thinks is their best way to make money, according to their own temperament.

A 141 gal does it as they figure they can get multiple clients per day - and if they're good, they can even chalk up to as many as 12 or even 16 a day (think of those gals with guys lining up outside their door!). At say $400 @, she could make up to $6400/day or $160,000/month counting 5 red days. Wow!!, that's a lot!! A more realistic number would be say 6 a day - which still adds up to $2,400/day or $60,000/month. Less the rent and advertisement at approx $15,000, they can still clear $45,000/month.


The KTV gals - and the Wanchai Filipino/Thai/Vietnamese etc charges an average of say $1,200 per shot (and say, averages 1-1/2 client/day plus probably make a bit from Ladies drinks and/or the "drinks coupons" at the 'independent bars' of another $2 or 300, thus bringing their 'take home pay" to approximately $2,000@day/50,000@month.

But these gals only has to do the dirty a lot less frequently. Some gals i.e. the 141 gals - can do it multiple times using KY jelly, good HJ/BJ's etc, whilst others go Tong Tong Tong even once a day! And then there is the Alcohol tolerance abilities of the particular gal. Some can easily out-drink you and I - plus LOVE getting high, whilst others really suffer when drinking. And thus a non-drinker will go the 141 or Sauna way.

OK, sauna - a lot of these gals go the sauna way as they feel (not sure if correct or not!) that they have more of a choice as to whether they will only do Veggie/HJ/BJ or FS sauna - with no demands being made one way or the other - and according to what they want to do or not do that particlular day.

There are a myriad other reasons why a gal would go one way or the other - but let it suffice to say that most (of course not all, before anyone here jumps on me), prostitution - and the way one chooses to prostitue oneself - is strictly a matter of personal choice. There is hardly any more "Slave Gangers" and thus the choice of how to operate their own business is just that - their own choice. They go into contracts with their handlers with eyes at least NOT firmly shut, and they know what they are getting into BEFORE they sign or agree to their part of the bargain. And don't think that these als do not shop around for the best deal/term that suits them best. They DO!

From the above (again its only IMHO) there are as many different quality/type of gals in each category as there is Johns in the industry! It's got little to do with which particular kind of gal is superior to another. Each Gal is different - the same with each John.

So for us ISG'ers - go with what you want - the same as what these gals would do.
SE Asia Joe

BionicMan
01-30-08, 11:11
OK - now that we've got THAT out of the way...
IMHO (and its only IMHO, HK dog - before you get all upset at me) and from chit chatting with quite a few and varied WG, KTV, Sauna, SW etc gals, the reason for the differing prices/modus operandi is simply a matter of preference and/or what the gal thinks is their best way to make money, according to their own temperament.

A 141 gal does it as they figure they can get multiple clients per day - and if they're good, they can even chalk up to as many as 12 or even 16 a day (think of those gals with guys lining up outside their door!). At say $400 @, she could make up to $6400/day or $160,000/month counting 5 red days. Wow!!, that's a lot!! A more realistic number would be say 6 a day - which still adds up to $2,400/day or $60,000/month. Less the rent and advertisement at approx $15,000, they can still clear $45,000/month.


The KTV gals - and the Wanchai Filipino/Thai/Vietnamese etc charges an average of say $1,200 per shot (and say, averages 1-1/2 client/day plus probably make a bit from Ladies drinks and/or the "drinks coupons" at the 'independent bars' of another $2 or 300, thus bringing their 'take home pay" to approximately $2,000@day/50,000@month.

But these gals only has to do the dirty a lot less frequently. Some gals i.e. the 141 gals - can do it multiple times using KY jelly, good HJ/BJ's etc, whilst others go Tong Tong Tong even once a day! And then there is the Alcohol tolerance abilities of the particular gal. Some can easily out-drink you and I - plus LOVE getting high, whilst others really suffer when drinking. And thus a non-drinker will go the 141 or Sauna way.

OK, sauna - a lot of these gals go the sauna way as they feel (not sure if correct or not!) that they have more of a choice as to whether they will only do Veggie/HJ/BJ or FS sauna - with no demands being made one way or the other - and according to what they want to do or not do that particlular day.

There are a myriad other reasons why a gal would go one way or the other - but let it suffice to say that most (of course not all, before anyone here jumps on me), prostitution - and the way one chooses to prostitue oneself - is strictly a matter of personal choice. There is hardly any more "Slave Gangers" and thus the choice of how to operate their own business is just that - their own choice. They go into contracts with their handlers with eyes at least NOT firmly shut, and they know what they are getting into BEFORE they sign or agree to their part of the bargain. And don't think that these als do not shop around for the best deal/term that suits them best. They DO!

From the above (again its only IMHO) there are as many different quality/type of gals in each category as there is Johns in the industry! It's got little to do with which particular kind of gal is superior to another. Each Gal is different - the same with each John.

So for us ISG'ers - go with what you want - the same as what these gals would do.
SE Asia Joe

very well done, SEAJ!
hope this opens the eyes to lots of people and keep on mongering with awareness as well as doing a sustainable mongering.
So much fashion to have everything sustainable nowadaythat also mongering has to be!
Probably those going bareback are "greens" as they do not use rubber and plastic, lol

Johnny Rocket
01-30-08, 19:24
Guys, arguing between Chinese and SE Asian girls is like arguing between gold and platinum. Let's be lucky we have such opportunities available to us whatever our tastes.

Question: every Mong Kok brothel I've been to for the past year doesn't have Flippers. Where in Mong Kok can I get a Flipper? Been a while since I had one. Thanks!

BTW, I tried to see Appuru again because I happened to be in the neighborhood. Again she was busy, and I figured, I'll come back another time. Did not try another door as no girls were milling about and most had the cages on their doors shut.

Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket

Hk Dog
01-31-08, 02:22
There is hardly any more "Slave Gangers" and thus the choice of how to operate their own business is just that - their own choice. They go into contracts with their handlers with eyes at least NOT firmly shut, and they know what they are getting into BEFORE they sign or agree to their part of the bargain. And don't think that these als do not shop around for the best deal/term that suits them best. They DO!


Yes, for the most part that is true but there still is a significant proportion where that is not the case. In fact in HK just recently there was a Filipina 'mamasan' jailed for 3yrs for bringing in girls to 'work' but telling them they are going to be working in restaurants etc etc.

I know of a Thai girl (about 5 yrs ago) that used to work in Nana Plaza and her friend told her to go work in Macau. She signed up (went in with eyes wide open) but then when she got there the terms of the contract changed (i,e what they promised to pay her per client). They took her passport and she had to work twice the number of men than she thought to make the same money her original contract told her.

I also knew a Chinese girl in a 141 in TST (massive titties and spoke English and Japanese) who had to work in HK since she owed debts to gangsters in her home town. When she made enough money (pretty quickly) and went back home the gangsters still wouldn't leave her and her family alone until she went back and worked in HK some more. I guess the triads don't want to lose a good producer.


So this stuff is still happenning right now.

Thor93
01-31-08, 04:33
Yes, for the most part that is true but there still is a significant proportion where that is not the case. In fact in HK just recently there was a Filipina 'mamasan' jailed for 3yrs for bringing in girls to 'work' but telling them they are going to be working in restaurants etc etc.

I know of a Thai girl (about 5 yrs ago) that used to work in Nana Plaza and her friend told her to go work in Macau. She signed up (went in with eyes wide open) but then when she got there the terms of the contract changed (i,e what they promised to pay her per client). They took her passport and she had to work twice the number of men than she thought to make the same money her original contract told her.

I also knew a Chinese girl in a 141 in TST (massive titties and spoke English and Japanese) who had to work in HK since she owed debts to gangsters in her home town. When she made enough money (pretty quickly) and went back home the gangsters still wouldn't leave her and her family alone until she went back and worked in HK some more. I guess the triads don't want to lose a good producer.


So this stuff is still happenning right now.

In Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, and Hong Kong I have met girls who told me they were tricked into working in the bars. They claim they were told they would be working in a restaurant and only found out what was expected afterwards. Of course it is possible they could be just saying that to make me feel sorry for them. And many of them do repeat visits, so we know they are not all being coerced.

Still I think some of the girls really did end up there under rather sinster circumstances. I think about the 18 year old I met this last trip. She did not tell me she had been tricked into coming, but it was obvious she was having a hard time with what she was doing working in Fenwicks.

I do often wonder about the Chinese girls that show up in all of these places. Compared to the filipinas, I thiink more of them are there under some sort of duress, although compared to the filipinas, they don't talk about it.

SE Asia Joe
01-31-08, 05:41
Yes, for the most part that is true but there still is a significant proportion where that is not the case.

So this stuff is still happenning right now.
Yes - like any business, there are also "bad" operators in prostitution. On the other hand, most well organized prostitution/triad/mafia gangs know that it is much easier to operate with willing participants. Their main motive in operating is profits and as such, they do go out of their way to avoid controversy.

In most areas of Asia, prostitution is pretty well "left alone" by the police and well meaning community groups as the challenges in tackling it is just too much - plus its pretty well perceived as being a victimless crime here. (probably unlike in the U.S. and/or other more developed parts of the world) What instead happens is just a bit of control to steer it to 'acceptable areas and acceptable practices.' These prostitution gangs knows to keep as low a profile as possible for not only will it keep the status quo with the LE's but also, it is good for business in that the Johns are re-assured that things are safe and that they are not willing participants to nefarious going ons with enslavement, coercion etc.

As far as stories goes - well.... there are as many 'stories' as there are gals wanting to have pity, extra monetary help/tips, making themselves feel better in that they're not "really doing this on their own volition," making the john feel they are special by sharing/confiding their worse fears (GFE??!!!) and/or making the john feel as if the gal is actually a decent gal forced into this and thus deserving of his sympathy/more money etc. etc.

Look-it, I ain't sayin' that there ain't no such thing as sex slavery etc - and probably there is hearing the 'stories' about gals in Eastern Europe, Africa, middle east etc etc - but one has to take it all with quite a big grain of salt and NOT become a sucker.

Monger safely and sensibly - and although I would doubt that YOU would come accross actual cases of "sex slavery" in this part of the world, I'm pretty sure that you would be able to know if it is really true or not. Just don't become a sucker to it and never, never get too drunk or too high to be rational when out mongering!
SE Asia Joe

Hk Dog
01-31-08, 08:19
As far as stories goes - well.... there are as many 'stories' as there are gals wanting to have pity, extra monetary help/tips, making themselves feel better in that they're not "really doing this on their own volition," making the john feel they are special by sharing/confiding their worse fears (GFE??!!!) and/or making the john feel as if the gal is actually a decent gal forced into this and thus deserving of his sympathy/more money etc. etc.




I am a long time monger who has lost count of girls but it is easily a number over 1,000. I can tell a sob story from the moment they open their mouth.

The HK court case is true , lets just say I know insiders in that case.

The Thai girl asked nothing from me. She called me up the day after she arrived in Macau asking for advise on how to get her passport back but in the end she really had no power.

The Chinese girl only disclosed her info after I saw her a couple of times. She didn't ask anything of me and in fact I got a couple of nice emails from her in China when she eventually left her forced 2nd tour.


Go into any of the go-go's in Wan Chai (which I don't recommend) and I would say at least 25% of the girls were misled of what they would actually be doing. I know one girl who intentionally put on alot of weight so customers wouldn't take her out. When she first came she was a stunner. Of course the mamasan could not force her to go out with customers but they witheld many priveleges and deducted penalties from their salary when they didn't. So they really had no choice. In the end the only leverage she had to being sent back was her attractiveness.

SE Asia Joe
02-01-08, 05:00
I am a long time monger who has lost count of girls but it is easily a number over 1,000. I can tell a sob story from the moment they open their mouth.

The HK court case is true , lets just say I know insiders in that case.

The Thai girl asked nothing from me. She called me up the day after she arrived in Macau asking for advise on how to get her passport back but in the end she really had no power.

The Chinese girl only disclosed her info after I saw her a couple of times. She didn't ask anything of me and in fact I got a couple of nice emails from her in China when she eventually left her forced 2nd tour.


Go into any of the go-go's in Wan Chai (which I don't recommend) and I would say at least 25% of the girls were misled of what they would actually be doing. I know one girl who intentionally put on alot of weight so customers wouldn't take her out. When she first came she was a stunner. Of course the mamasan could not force her to go out with customers but they witheld many priveleges and deducted penalties from their salary when they didn't. So they really had no choice. In the end the only leverage she had to being sent back was her attractiveness.
3 or 4 out of over 1,000. Probably about right
SE Asia Joe

Hk Dog
02-01-08, 05:47
3 or 4 out of over 1,000. Probably about right
SE Asia Joe


Mate, its alot more than 3 or 4, I don't want to bore you with the entire list.

My point is that it is alot more common than you think. I would put an estimate at around 3% (your estimate is around .4%)

Frequent Flier
02-01-08, 07:12
Mate, its alot more than 3 or 4, I don't want to bore you with the entire list.

My point is that it is alot more common than you think. I would put an estimate at around 3% (your estimate is around .4%)


Seems to me that this discussion includes go-go girls and the girls working the disco in the same group. I do not think this is the case.

I used to spend lots of time in Hong Kong and most of the night cruising I did for mongering was in Wan Chai at the go-go bars. This was because I had customers from the USA, UK or Europe with me 99% of the time.

I would stay in Hong Kong for months at a time and I would have different customers there every week. The reason I would take them to the go-go bars is for safety reasons. I never had a problem at the go-go bars and never had to worry how the girls would treat the guy back at the hotel room or if they would try to drug them or steal from them.

One thing I did discover was that I would have one customer fancy a certain girl and take her out sometimes multiple times during one trip to Hong Kong. Then the next week after the customer left another customer would come and sometimes pick the same girl. Of course I would never say anything about a previous customer picking the same girl as it is all about the fantasy isn't it?
Well the interesting thing is that the customers would get different stories from the same girl. Seems the girls in the go-go bars were very good at figuring out what story the guy wanted to hear to get them to take them out. If the guy felt like he was rescuing her for even just one night because he liked the feeling of being her knight in shinning amour, even for one night, that is the story he heard. The next customer would hear that she has been to Hong Kong on multiple trips and likes her works there. That is why she does it. Good money and she likes sex. So the girls really are experts at feeling the guy out as to what story they want to hear. They are taught well and know their business very well. I know one girl who was a virgin when she signed up, so before she left the Philippines had a next door neighbor take her cherry so she would have some experience before she arrived in Hong Kong for her job. Lucky neighbor huh. Then when she got there she asked her roommates and co-workers to teach her how to give blow jobs properly.

Now I know that there are still girls that are lied to as there are independent agents in the Philippines who get these girls to sign up. Most tell the girls the truth or they know from friends who have been there working in the go-go bars what to expect. Some of the agents lie for sure, but from what I have experienced it is a very small number of girls who go to work in the go-go bars who do not know the truth about what their jobs is. Agents who lie to the girl and then send girls over who are trouble to the go-go bars or do not want to work will not be agents for very long. The go-go bars do not like the trouble.

As for the disco's, there are many girls in the disco's that are being held against their will by having their passports taken. I'm not sure how involved the triads are in this and from what I have seen I think it is mostly a Filipino operated organization. It is done quite unprofessionally if you ask me. There are also many girls in the discos there on their own or visiting relatives or friends in Hong Kong that are working the go-go bars and not there against their will. I'm not sure of the ratio to forced girl in the disco, but I do know it was rapidly increasing when I was last there. I would say about 40% of the disco girl were working girls under contract. The number of those being forced was probably about 20% of that 40%. So I guess I am saying about 8% of the girls in the disco's are working there because someone is forcing them. Maybe more

Just my observation and I could be way off or it could have changed since I was last there.

FF

SE Asia Joe
02-01-08, 08:09
. I would put an estimate at around 3% (your estimate is around .4%)
OK 3% - or even MORE%age - whatever - but certainly a helluva lot less than the practically universal stories of woe and desperation one most times hear from these gals.

The point being - OK, there MAYBE real stories of horror and enslavement etc but as a monger, always, and I mean ALWAYS, take all their stories with a large grain of salt and NEVER - Never ever be a sucker. After all, you're only mongering and not trying to find the love of your life. And if you happen to find the love of your life whilst mongering - wellllll.... that's a double NO NO and double trouble!!

Keep Mongering safe and smart!
Treat 'em good and they'll treat you good -
but never be a sucker.
IMHO

(Do what I say, don't do what I do)SE Asia Joe

Hk Dog
02-01-08, 09:03
One thing I did discover was that I would have one customer fancy a certain girl and take her out sometimes multiple times during one trip to Hong Kong. Then the next week after the customer left another customer would come and sometimes pick the same girl. Of course I would never say anything about a previous customer picking the same girl as it is all about the fantasy isn't it?

FF


I would say in any go go in Wan Chai with young flippers you will find one who is a 'problem' girl for the mamsan. i.e. she doesn't want to go out with customers and just sulks there. They are usually the ones that were brought over on false pretense and not willing to accept the new role. They get shipped back when the mamasan's realize they can't break them in even with all the penalties they impose.

The ones that do go out, of course learned the great skill of bullshitting. The WHO would declare the Phillipines having an epidemic of brain tumors if you believe the sucker stories of the pro's.

RonJeremy101
02-01-08, 12:29
I will be in HK, Shenzhen, Dongguan, Zhu Hai and Guangzhou for the month of Feb and early March. Anyone interesting in hooking up for some mongering in those cities, please PM me. I am quite familiar with the cities except never explore Zhu Hai before.

Ron

Zuzon X
02-02-08, 02:30
Most of us know the disco scene in Wanchai on a Sunday afternoon/evening. Is there a similar scene on Kowloon side - bars/discos full of maids having a good time? Couldn't find any hint here in the forum.

Member #4168
02-02-08, 04:26
Guys,

I'm a new member and have been reading through these forums to get a better understanding of what the scene is like here. I've been through the Wan Chai scene and done the Thai, Phillipino and Indonesian take away, but I wanted to savour the delights of the local girls.

Where can you find some eager local beaver (apart from the 141 girls) I'm more into a GF experience so I'm looking for a decent bar where you can chat them up, work out if you can bear to wake up next to them and then take them away?

FreeWolf66
02-03-08, 06:46
Thor93,

I wish you guys would state Hong kong dollars or US.

Johnny Rocket
02-03-08, 15:06
Guys,

...

Where can you find some eager local beaver (apart from the 141 girls) I'm more into a GF experience so I'm looking for a decent bar where you can chat them up, work out if you can bear to wake up next to them and then take them away?

If you can find this McRockDundee, be sure to let us know where! :)

However, you can always try Lang Kwai Fong--so long as you look like you spend 9 hours a day in the gym, dress like a homosexual and/or investment banker, and flash a ton of cash, and can deal with some pretty bitchy attitudes, you may get lucky. Otherwise 37D is your best bet.

Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket

Pointpanic
02-03-08, 20:46
Guys,

I'm a new member and have been reading through these forums to get a better understanding of what the scene is like here. I've been through the Wan Chai scene and done the Thai, Phillipino and Indonesian take away, but I wanted to savour the delights of the local girls.

Where can you find some eager local beaver (apart from the 141 girls) I'm more into a GF experience so I'm looking for a decent bar where you can chat them up, work out if you can bear to wake up next to them and then take them away?

Mr. RockDundee, Good luck trying to pick up a local Cantonese lady. They are not easy and not really interested in one night stands. BTW most of the 141 girls are not local girls. Most speak Nandarin and come from all over China.

Hk Dog
02-04-08, 04:55
Guys,

I'm a new member and have been reading through these forums to get a better understanding of what the scene is like here. I've been through the Wan Chai scene and done the Thai, Phillipino and Indonesian take away, but I wanted to savour the delights of the local girls.

Where can you find some eager local beaver (apart from the 141 girls) I'm more into a GF experience so I'm looking for a decent bar where you can chat them up, work out if you can bear to wake up next to them and then take them away?


It is possible but I wouldn't waste time if you are a tourist. I see the same group of girls hanging around LKF who are known for one nighters. I didn't find them attractive 10 yrs ago so you can imagine what they look like now.

Take it from me (who has had a few 'one nighters' with locals). The sex will be very bad. I have long lost the need to 'boost' my ego. I'd rather go with someone who knows what they are doing (i/e pro's) for a short time.

Long time girl friends are ok but they often have to be trained so it is a bit of a burden.

Also remember that HK is concentrated with male models and guys that make millions so that is your competition on a super hot local freebie. They know how to play the game very well.

Chaos Theory
02-04-08, 07:20
thought it was time i gave a bit back to the forum after a few years of mainly being a lurker. i live in london but my job mainly involves work in asia. i go on month long trips to se asia and china, heaven for someone like me who greatly favors asian women.

anyway, the following is a report on my activities since mid december 2007. it covers hong kong, malaysia and cambodia. future reports, if i get round to writing them, are likely to include vietnam, singapore, and indonesia as well.

i will post the whole report in each relevant section so please skip over any bits not relevant to the particular thread. for malaysia (kl) and cambodia (phnom penh) scroll down.

hong kong

i was in hk about a week before christmas. stayed at the novotel century on lockhart road, wanchai. very well placed relative to the wanchai bars, totally girl friendly and reasonably priced (not usually a major concern for me as my work is paying).

my favorite venue here is fenwicks. as someone noted recently mongering here is like shooting fish in a barrel. things don’t really get started until 10pm so no point turning up earlier than that – go to one of the other bars or get a good mexican meal in coyotes. between 10pm and midnight a huge number of girls come in. a mix if filipina, thai, mainland chinese and a handful of russians and africans. bar closes at 3am i think.

on this trip i hooked up with a bunch of filipina girls who hung around the table near the dance floor. great bunch of girls, lots of fun and were not too pushy for drinks. i quickly focused a young, slim and, imho, very pretty one. turned out to be 19 years old and very new to the game. loved dancing and had a great time. asked her if she wanted to come back with me lt and she jumped at the chance. her friends were cheering her as they said it was her first hook up (she had arrived in hk two days before). back in the room it became clear that while she was no virgin i would say she wasn’t experienced either. however had a lot of fun and she was also good to talk to too. in the morning i gave her hk$1000 and she looked delighted and off she went. this seems a bargain to me and evidence of her newness to the scene. i hooked up with her again every night for the rest of the trip, lt every night and just $1000.

returned to hk end of january. same hotel and wandered down to fenwicks at about 10pm on a thursday night. was quite quiet. kind of hoped the girl from before would be there but no luck. however spotted another filipina i thought was very attractive. good figure, pretty face. called her over, had a few drinks and a dance. she had arrived in hk two days before. however she didn’t play the innocent but said back home she worked in bars called mascara and ivory. having made it clear that i would be taking her back to the hotel with me we then settled down to some partying. popped over to neptune 2 which she hadn’t seen (very busy, good music and a lot of good quality girls), then to laguana (sp? ) (rubbish) and the back to fenwicks to see her friend. by now it was 1. 30am and much busier. i have to say i thought the quality of available talent was exceptional. what i would call 8’s and 9’s were available for anyone interested. my girl’s friend was complaining there were too many girls and too much window shopping by the men – not enough genuine customers.

anyway took my girl back to the hotel and have to say, what ensued was the best p4p experience i have ever had. she was fantastic. great body, enthusiastic and very accommodating. i wanted to cim but got carried away and shot early while getting into position. fired all over her face. we laughed about it and she actually complained that she preferred me to cim as she didn’t like having the ’sticky stuff’ on her face! never had someone complain about me not cim’ing before! another session when we woke up and then took her for breakfast. overall excellent and gfe. paid her hk$2, 000 because i was just so pleased.

unfortunately i can’t remember the names of either of the girls! i have an email address for the second but her name is not part of it.

malayisa

i was in kl for a few days in mid january. favourite hotel here is the concorde and, as i’m sure you can guess, favourite bar is the beach club.

arrived late on sunday night. given a great suite in hotel with separate sitting room, bedroom, dressing room and two bathrooms! went straight to beach club (via garage to buy condoms, girls don’t carry in malaysia so be prepared). quickly spotted the nights target, a hot bodied, reasonably pretty filipina called grace. was instantly attracted to her when she said to me "my names grace, and you should have grace before breakfast". couldn’t agree more! she was a great dancer, as was her cute friend kyla. their easy to find. generally hang out near the platform where some of the girls "table top" dance. took her back st as i was tired and wanted some sleep. she put on a great performance though once clothes off did reveal some stretch marks but sexy none the less. rm300 for the st.

next night by the time i got to the beach club grace was busy and i hadn’t made any plans to meet up with her so fair enough – she has a living to make. hooked up with another cute filipina (slightly fuller body but sweet face) called vanessa. took her lt (rm400). she got all shy back in the room. then all of a sudden she turned into a wild women, practically raped me, had a massive orgasm (or faked it well) and then went all shy again! a bit bizarre. continued shy act until left in morning. wouldn’t take her again but the 20 mins of ‘action’ were pretty fantastic.

final night was grace again. met up early. left beach and checked out rum jungle for a bit. good bar but not many, if any, fl’s just some hot local girls having a good time. back to room, fell asleep but had a good session in the morning. (rm400)

as an aside i would expect grace and her friend kyla to make a great double act. will be my objective if they are still there next time i am in kl. overall quality of girls at beach 6.7 but with some gems if you look. also you have probably guessed by now that i am a filipina fan.

cambodia

i was in phnom penh in mid jan. stayed at himawari. good price (us$90) and very gf. the security guards stop girls when they leave and call you in your room to make sure you are ok to let them leave. problem with himawari is that you need to book early as it gets very full.

unlike previous trips i didn’t make it to cyrecee this time. however based on my previous experience i would recommend it if you get the chance.

i spent my time this visit in bar 104. can be hit and miss here but i just got lucky on my first night and tied up with a group of girls who were very chatty and good fun. they had a friend who was very pretty, good body but spoke no english, mom i think her name was. while the chatty girls didn’t seem available (though i didn’t try very hard) mom was very willing. i had two nights of great gfe with her, despite the lack of english. sure i will be flamed but gave her us$40 per night in recognition of great performance.

one night i took the girls down to bar 136 which is 104’s sister joint. they were very excited by having a trip out and i think we all had a good time.

that’s it for now

ct

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Member #4168
02-04-08, 11:39
Well thanks for your words of wisdom, I'm not a male model, not earning $$millions nor do i work out in the gym.

I was wanting to know if there's really a chance to "get to know" the local girls and from your posts it seems like there's not much point.

The locals i've met are not particlarly interested in wetsern guys and if they are it's only because we operate like an ATM giving out money for drinks etc.
Ok well i'm off to wanchai for the evening night delights.

I guess an experienced pro is better than an inexperienced insecure local girl.

Now on another point - i'm heading to Japan for work in March, hw's the scene compare to HK?

Thanks

Jax Dude
02-04-08, 16:20
I've traveled to HK/Macau several times over the last year. This time I'm going with the wife. We want to have some fun.

I don't see it talked about here much cause we mongers mostly play solo, but I'm in a new, unique position. My wife and I have been experimenting with swinging over the last few years and she's getting petty comfortable. Now, she wants to watch me with another woman. In short, we're looking for the typical threesome (MFF), and while she is bi, the girl doesn't need to be. My wife is willing to just watch.

So does anyone have any ideas? Fenwicks? KTVs? I'd rather have some "sure thing" options than rely on just chance by going to regular bars/clubs.

We're visiting in few weeks and I hope to have lots to write about.

Hk Dog
02-05-08, 01:48
Now on another point - i'm heading to Japan for work in March, hw's the scene compare to HK?

Thanks


Japan, is a whole different story. You don't need to meet pro's there. The local girls are up for anything. I always come back with a good story when I go to Tokyo.

However, its best if you know some guys and get invited to private parties and such.

Softy
02-05-08, 02:11
I've traveled to HK/Macau several times over the last year. This time I'm going with the wife. We want to have some fun.

I don't see it talked about here much cause we mongers mostly play solo, but I'm in a new, unique position. My wife and I have been experimenting with swinging over the last few years and she's getting petty comfortable. Now, she wants to watch me with another woman. In short, we're looking for the typical threesome (MFF), and while she is bi, the girl doesn't need to be. My wife is willing to just watch.

So does anyone have any ideas? Fenwicks? KTVs? I'd rather have some "sure thing" options than rely on just chance by going to regular bars/clubs.

We're visiting in few weeks and I hope to have lots to write about.

Jax Dude:

I travel sometimes with a part time GF I have that lives in Beijing. Every once in awhile, we also get a girl for play as she is a bit bi at times. My advice in HK is to stay away from Fenwicks and Laguna as these bars are mostly Filippina. The Fillipina's are more reluctant to go with another woman. If they do, they are shy in the room and may not want to be watched. Rarely have I found in in HK to go both ways.

I would try the Thais' at Neptune. Almost all of them are willing to be as adventurous as you wish - YMMV.

Thor93
02-05-08, 02:13
I've traveled to HK/Macau several times over the last year. This time I'm going with the wife. We want to have some fun.

I don't see it talked about here much cause we mongers mostly play solo, but I'm in a new, unique position. My wife and I have been experimenting with swinging over the last few years and she's getting petty comfortable. Now, she wants to watch me with another woman. In short, we're looking for the typical threesome (MFF), and while she is bi, the girl doesn't need to be. My wife is willing to just watch.

So does anyone have any ideas? Fenwicks? KTVs? I'd rather have some "sure thing" options than rely on just chance by going to regular bars/clubs.

We're visiting in few weeks and I hope to have lots to write about.


You might want to try something like Adultfriendfinder. Lots of girls post there that they are looking for women or else looking for couples. Just be careful though as there are many fakes there. You would have to take a shotgun approach, but it might be worth a try.

I tried that route for a solo hook-up on my last trip to HK. Basically the good looking women on there were really hookers and asking a lot more than the going rate. The one non-professional I met, was nice but middle aged and a bit on the chubby side so I passed even though it would have been a freebie.

There were some nice looking pictures though of girls looking for couples or another woman.

I suppose you could take the wife into a place like Fenwicks and find something, but that would probably be real hit or miss.