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Hong Kong Boy
04-06-08, 05:35
Hi,
I have not been to Hong Kong since 1989 but know but know I'm taking wife and two kids on a one month backpacking trip to south-east Asia (like being 20 again)...anyway we will have 2-3 day stop over in Hong Kong. I hope I will be able to sneak out for a quick pop :-) with a nice young Asian girl. It is not easy to find reasonable priced quality Asians in UK, Germany, Scandinavia, Spain, US east coast etc.
Therefore, suggestions appreciated on:
• Hotels close to the “Yellow sign” places e.g. 37 Dundas or 8 Mong Kok, which makes it possible to go on a 1 hour walk or electronic shopping tour
• It also important that these hotels accept 4 people (since I can’t leave one of the kids alone if we have to stay in two rooms). I’m a bit of a night person so it is normal that stay up 2-3 hours longer than the rest of the family
Or should I plan this in a another way?
Thanks in advance,
Peter
Try Langham Hotel or Metropark Hotel both are in Mong Kok.
Qwerty On88
04-06-08, 12:43
All the electrical shops, computer, night market on Tung Choi Street etc. , stay open until at least 10. 00 pm. And it id easy to " get lost " inn the maze of streets. Definitly the norm for you to stay up late. There are also snacks stands open until 2 or 3 am so can get a curry flavoured snack to hide that " love hotel soap " smell!
Hi,
I have not been to Hong Kong since 1989 but know but know I'm taking wife and two kids on a one month backpacking trip to south-east Asia (like being 20 again)...anyway we will have 2-3 day stop over in Hong Kong. I hope I will be able to sneak out for a quick pop :-) with a nice young Asian girl. It is not easy to find reasonable priced quality Asians in UK, Germany, Scandinavia, Spain, US east coast etc.
Therefore, suggestions appreciated on:
• Hotels close to the “Yellow sign” places e.g. 37 Dundas or 8 Mong Kok, which makes it possible to go on a 1 hour walk or electronic shopping tour
• It also important that these hotels accept 4 people (since I can’t leave one of the kids alone if we have to stay in two rooms). I’m a bit of a night person so it is normal that stay up 2-3 hours longer than the rest of the family
Or should I plan this in a another way?
Thanks in advance,
Peter
Qwerty On88
04-06-08, 12:47
Are there just Chinese girls at this club? Any other nationalities?
[QUOTE=Aynak]Last night I have visited Club Paris at the address 96, Granville Road, 3/F., Hilton Tower, Tsim Sha Tsui East, Kowloon, Hong Kong
Hi guys,
I am new to this board and can say that its unbeliveble resource for p4p information. I will be in Hong Kong later in the month and would like to know if there good quailty latin girls available there. I saw a few last year and was wondering if there are still available.
Thanks in advance
You should be able to find some in Fenwicks in Wanchai
I am sure much of the following has been written over an over but here is a short summary of places I checked out
Hari's Bar - Holiday Inn Golden Mile - TST
Heavy presence of "Russian" talent, Mongolian, Mainland Chinese and Pinoy talent. Mostly "older" stock late twenties early thirties. Band is good and easy on the ear.
Sticky Fingers - TST
If you like loud ear-shattering music where you must shout to speak to your partner this is the place for you. Talent on the 5-6 range
141 "option"
The Hotel reservation girls are available to come to your hotel room - HKD100 will be added to the charges posted on the web. When you call, mostly you will receive a non-English speaker or one that know only a few words. Be patient and try other numbers, you can find someone that you will be able to communicate with you. Last week I "ordered" three girls. One for two hours was good - the goal of the two I ordered for one hour was to get it done as soon as possible. Remember - their task is "volume" - get in, get it done, get out. Overall this is not a good value. Be careful since the bait and switch game is strong here.
Paris Club
If you want Chinese talent that does speak English this is the place to go BUT it will cost you. Since their job depends on it, as has been written, they will perform and give you that GFE "feeling".
Wanchai
The best value by far would be the clubs in Wanchai like Neptune and Fenwicks. Last week I found a wonderful Thai spinner all of 40kg that I kept for three nights. Avoid the "girlie" clubs at all costs.
Unfortunately with the recent Rubgy matches and lasts week's visit by the Navy, these clubs were packed.
All the electrical shops, computer, night market on Tung Choi Street etc. , stay open until at least 10. 00 pm. And it id easy to " get lost " inn the maze of streets. Definitly the norm for you to stay up late. There are also snacks stands open until 2 or 3 am so can get a curry flavoured snack to hide that " love hotel soap " smell!Thanks Qwerty On88 and Hongkong Boy for these suggestions on where to stay and how to hide an hour of fun!
Eyebrow777
04-07-08, 23:16
Wanchai,
The best value by far would be the clubs in Wanchai like Neptune and Fenwicks. Last week I found a wonderful Thai spinner all of 40kg that I kept for three nights. Avoid the "girlie" clubs at all costs.
Unfortunately with the recent Rubgy matches and lasts week's visit by the Navy, these clubs were packed.Firebird,
Thanks for the report.
Odd (or not) question for the folks here. I'll be traveling through HK in a couple of months and have some flexibility on the exact dates. Fenwick's is on my short list (along with some of the Macau saunas) and I want to avoid being there when the Navy is in port. Is there public info on Navy port of call schedules?
Thanks,
EB
Timewaster
04-08-08, 00:53
I am sure much of the following has been written over an over but here is a short summary of places I checked out
Hari's Bar - Holiday Inn Golden Mile - TST
Heavy presence of "Russian" talent, Mongolian, Mainland Chinese and Pinoy talent. Mostly "older" stock late twenties early thirties. Band is good and easy on the ear.
Sticky Fingers - TST
If you like loud ear-shattering music where you must shout to speak to your partner this is the place for you. Talent on the 5-6 range
141 "option"
The Hotel reservation girls are available to come to your hotel room - HKD100 will be added to the charges posted on the web. When you call, mostly you will receive a non-English speaker or one that know only a few words. Be patient and try other numbers, you can find someone that you will be able to communicate with you. Last week I "ordered" three girls. One for two hours was good - the goal of the two I ordered for one hour was to get it done as soon as possible. Remember - their task is "volume" - get in, get it done, get out. Overall this is not a good value. Be careful since the bait and switch game is strong here.
Paris Club
If you want Chinese talent that does speak English this is the place to go BUT it will cost you. Since their job depends on it, as has been written, they will perform and give you that GFE "feeling".
Wanchai
The best value by far would be the clubs in Wanchai like Neptune and Fenwicks. Last week I found a wonderful Thai spinner all of 40kg that I kept for three nights. Avoid the "girlie" clubs at all costs.
Unfortunately with the recent Rubgy matches and lasts week's visit by the Navy, these clubs were packed.What do you mean by "girlie" clubs? what type of clubs to avoid?
I want to avoid being there when the Navy is in port. Is there public info on Navy port of call schedules?
Sorry, cannot help you with this one - unless you know someone who has the "hot line" to the Admiral.
What do you mean by "girlie" clubs? what type of clubs to avoid?
You will know these clubs. You will pass scantily clad girls with mini-skirts size of belts and the mamasans trying to pull you into the club for you to purchase an overpriced beer. Once you are in, your are LOST...so stay OUT unless you have $$$ to "burn"
Well, I had a last day in Hong Kong and stayed at The Holiday Inn Golden Mile on Nathan Rd. 'cuz I had to get an early flight and wanted to take the bus early in the morning so I only had to pay $33.00 HKD, rather than $80.00 HKD using the Airport Express. After check-in and going to my room, I decided to pay an early afternoon visit to TST Sauna across the street. I always wanted to try the place.
Some monger on this board a long while back said there was a pool inside the place. Well, there wasn't. Man, I can't stand it when people lie or exaggerate (unless there was one and it was no longer used). The place was really clean, but there was no pool. Just a shower section, a sauna, a steam room (which was cool) and then a small lounge, a long corridor for massage rooms and quite pretty girls. Had I known there wasn't a pool, I would have jumped down to Noble Sauna instead or popped on the Ferry and back to Macau.
It would be great if someone knows which saunas in Hong Kong have pools and special services and which ones don't.
After I used the facilities, the manager asked me what I wanted. I said, I'll pay for the full boat, but I don't want "ML", but want the girl naked. They only had 2 options. The $786 HKD ML option and a $586 HKD HJ option. I went with the $786 HKD option. When the guy got my orange juice, this girl behind the counter gets a straw and when she's about to put it in the glass, he takes it away and she just stands there holding the straw over the counter. HEY! WE HAVE A WINNER!
The massage girl was really a pretty one. Skinny model material, cute face and decent massage skills. I'd give her an 8.5 in looks. Really hot. She was from Hong Kong and spoke decent English. She kept breathing like she was Michael Myers from "Halloween 2" however, and that gave me the chills. Only to find out 75% into the massage she has a cold. And with reports of the flu going around, I was then shitting bricks! But before I knew that, she gave me a super ball massage, boy I should have just had her do that. On turn over time, she tried too hard, not much sexual emphasis unlike just before. But still good enough in the end, I'm sure it will satisfy you blokes.
After I left, back into the steam room and shower to kill off anything. I never got sick, so I lucked out, she may have been at the after stage recovering. Gee wiz. It's not a bad place, but Noble Sauna with the larger facilities is my choice over TST Sauna. Now if I could get saunas like those in Macau to be in Hong Kong, let me know!
Gyaos.
Neuromancer
04-08-08, 16:49
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It would be great if someone knows which saunas in Hong Kong have pools and special services and which ones don't.
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Gyaos.You already know about Noble Sauna. Carnival in North Point has a very nice pool (it has recently re-opened! ) which is nicer than Noble IMO. Sun Hot Sauna in East TST has one as well, though I think that there have been recent reports about Sun Hot going "veggie" (ie. No happy ending). Another place in Jordan (directly behind National Court. Directly across from the car park entrance if I remember correctly) has a tiny pool, more like a hot tub really (sorry can't remember the name, Queen Sauna I think).
Other saunas which I've tried which do NOT have pools. Ocean King in North Point, Blue Sky in Causeway Bay.
You should be able to find some in Fenwicks in Wanchai
Fenwicks has a bunch, but watch out for some of the Colombian girls. I hear, although I do not know for sure, that they also deal Coke. Someone also told me that Fenwicks was shut down for a day to clean up the Coke trade from the Colombians. Do not know if this is accurate or not, just beware.
I have taken several Colombian girls and never had a problem.
Forcejam,
Hong Kong is not the place if you want viet girls. Macau is Viet heaven. they have shops lined up with 30 or more each place for you to choose. I forgot the last shop i went to, but they hand out those business cards all the time, jsut say viet girls available and they'll point you to the right direction.
MACAU is 1 hour 15 minutes by boat.
Good luck
Hello Mate,
I will be going HK soon.
May I know where can I find Viet, Thai girls for happy beside ******.COM where all are mainly china or hk girls?
You already know about Noble Sauna. Carnival in North Point has a very nice pool (it has recently re-opened! ) which is nicer than Noble IMO. Sun Hot Sauna in East TST has one as well, though I think that there have been recent reports about Sun Hot going "veggie" (ie. No happy ending).
Yes, that's right. I was going to go to Sun Hot, but I read the report they bellied up and didn't go there. Thanks for the Carnival recommendation, will try that next time (unless I'm just stuck in Macau as that place is getting super).
Gyaos.
Hi guys,
Thanks a lot for all your pictures and report I was wondering if anyone could help me here?
I would like to know where is the best place to meet with Filipino, Thai, Indonesian girl on a week day afternoon?
Hummer Bird
04-10-08, 01:41
This may seem like a DUH!, but does anyone know about short term visas issues if one is traveling through HK with an overnight layover. I am dreading 14hrs in the HK airport, and having one of the great pussy resources go to waste.
How about a short time mongering VISA eh?:=)
Please contribute any info.
Cheers
Hummer Bird
Crazy Jim Wood
04-10-08, 02:37
Where you from? As far as I know, Americans don't need visas in HK, I assume it's the same for the EU, Australia, NZ, UK, etc but I would guess that many third world countries need visas.
This may seem like a DUH!, but does anyone know about short term visas issues if one is traveling through HK with an overnight layover. I am dreading 14hrs in the HK airport, and having one of the great pussy resources go to waste.
How about a short time mongering VISA eh?:=)
Please contribute any info.
Cheers
Hummer Bird
Beijing Lover
04-10-08, 03:17
Hi guys,
Thanks a lot for all your pictures and report I was wondering if anyone could help me here?
I would like to know where is the best place to meet with Filipino, Thai, Indonesian girl on a week day afternoon?
Try World Wide House in Central.
There is a shopping mall on the 1st floor that is full of filipinas during all day.
The best choice is to seat at Delifrance and make eye contact with them.
I would like to know where is the best place to meet with Filipino, Thai, Indonesian girl on a week day afternoon?
For Indos, go to Victoria Park in Causeway Bay. That's the location of choice for Indonesian maids to hang out on their day off.
Traveler1234
04-10-08, 12:30
I am dreading 14hrs in the HK airport, and having one of the great pussy resources go to waste.
Hummer Bird
My vote would be a sauna trip to Macau - go to Macau sauna review thread for more details. Perfect venue for 14 hrs - wash up, get massage, eat,relax, fuck, sleep, eat, fuck some more, wash up and back to airport.....;) Total cost equal to one night in HK hotel!
Traveler1234
04-10-08, 12:33
For Indos, go to Victoria Park in Causeway Bay. That's the location of choice for Indonesian maids to hang out on their day off.
I usually stay at Park Lane Hotel, right next to the Park. On Sunday both the Park and good part of Causeway Bay near the MTR/Park Lane area is jammed packed with maids - twosomes and threesomes probably available if you're up for it!
Most of the passports can get at least 14 days tourist stay permit on arrival in HK. Even most third world country passports are under this category as HK does not have Embassies outside. For more details see
immd.gov.hk/ehtml/hkvisas_4.htm
This may seem like a DUH!, but does anyone know about short term visas issues if one is traveling through HK with an overnight layover. I am dreading 14hrs in the HK airport, and having one of the great pussy resources go to waste.
How about a short time mongering VISA eh?:=)
Please contribute any info.
Cheers
Hummer Bird
Can anyone recommend a hotel close to the Hong Kong Macau Ferry Terminal, Sheung Wan?
I will be arriving late in the evening and want to catch an early morning ferry out.
Can anyone recommend a hotel close to the Hong Kong Macau Ferry Terminal, Sheung Wan? I will be arriving late in the evening and want to catch an early morning ferry out.
You can get the ferry to Macau before HKG immigration at Chep Lap Kok (duh, that's Hong Kong International Airport). Talk to your airline about how that can be done. Info is also at HKGs own website too.
Gyaos.
You can get the ferry to Macau before HKG immigration at Chep Lap Kok (duh, that's Hong Kong International Airport). Talk to your airline about how that can be done. Info is also at HKGs own website too.
Gyaos.Thanks for your reply but I arrive after the last ferry of the night. As a result I have to stay overnite in HK and catch the ferry in the morning.
Kiwistickman
04-11-08, 00:26
You already know about Noble Sauna. Carnival in North Point has a very nice pool (it has recently re-opened! ) which is nicer than Noble IMO. Sun Hot Sauna in East TST has one as well, though I think that there have been recent reports about Sun Hot going "veggie" (ie. No happy ending). Another place in Jordan (directly behind National Court. Directly across from the car park entrance if I remember correctly) has a tiny pool, more like a hot tub really (sorry can't remember the name, Queen Sauna I think).
Other saunas which I've tried which do NOT have pools. Ocean King in North Point, Blue Sky in Causeway Bay.Carnival is very nice with good pool. No full service but good CBJ/HJ.
Sun Hot has pool but very "veggie" now.
Ocean King no pool but I had good "Full body massage" in fact when I was asked if I wanted full body massage the provider nearly fell over herself thanking me for requesting! Sorry, no detail but she was one of 2 I saw and both were an 8 IMHO.
Can anyone recommend a hotel close to the Hong Kong Macau Ferry Terminal, Sheung Wan?
I will be arriving late in the evening and want to catch an early morning ferry out.
If you arrive very late, there are no direct ferries from the airport.
If you make it to Sheung Wan, I believe there are ferries around the clock. No need to stay in HK. My vote would be to get to Macau and have fun right away. Check into a hotel or sauna in Macau instead. I often just stay in the casino and give them all my money (but that is another story altogether)!
Have fun.
On a Sunday you should go in the New Makati Club in Wanchai. from 2 p.m. until evening it is packed with all kind of maids celebrating their day off. i picked up several of them for free in the past. Good Luck!
Hi guys,
Thanks a lot for all your pictures and report I was wondering if anyone could help me here?
I would like to know where is the best place to meet with Filipino, Thai, Indonesian girl on a week day afternoon?
SE Asia Joe
04-11-08, 04:24
Thanks for your reply but I arrive after the last ferry of the night. As a result I have to stay overnite in HK and catch the ferry in the morning.
Ferries SheungWan- Macau runs 24/7
SEAJ
Bob Builder
04-11-08, 10:07
Ferries SheungWan- Macau runs 24/7
SEAJ
You can catch A11 or E21 bus to Hong Kong Island which the first stop after crossing the tunnel onto Hong Kong Island is Shun Tak ferry terminal where the ferries run just about all night but the sailings get further apart later in the night.
A11 is the Express Bus and costs $40.00 HKD. The E11 is the overnight bus and costs $22.00 HKD, but makes many more stops. So the buses also run 24/7. If you want to go quick, the Airport Express train will still be running 'til 1am, take it to Hong Kong Station, hop on the train one stop to Sheung Wan (they run 'til just before 1am), walk to the Ferry Terminal, Terbojet is 24/7. In fact, you can just stand by for the nearest time Ferry, even if you buy a ticket for a Ferry 1 hour from that time. Or take a taxi from the airport to the Ferry Terminal. They'll get you there.
A note to the board, big thanks for the S1 bus tip to the Tung Chung line! Only $3.5 HKD, small walk to the train and it's only $20.50 to Admiralty from there! Transfer from Hong Kong Station to the MTR underground was a walk, but a free transfer! It was fun!
Gyaos.
You can catch A11 or E21 bus to Hong Kong Island which the first stop after crossing the tunnel onto Hong Kong Island is Shun Tak ferry terminal where the ferries run just about all night but the sailings get further apart later in the night.Thanks but this doesnt work for me. I am going to Shenzhen airport and ferry service does not run 24 hours. I need to spend the night in HK and want to be close to the ferry for an early morning departure.
Airport buses are notoriously slow because of the traffic and all the traffic lights in Hong Kong.
If you are going to centra, wanchai , ferry to Macau take the train.
If you are going to your hotel in mongkok,tst onthe kowloon side take the A21 bus which goes along nathan road.
Brain Damaged
04-12-08, 03:17
Thanks but this doesnt work for me. I am going to Shenzhen airport and ferry service does not run 24 hours. I need to spend the night in HK and want to be close to the ferry for an early morning departure.
Cross border van service is available 24 hours at Hong Kong airport. You can go to either Shenzhen or to Shenzhen airport. Lots of hotels in SZ, don't know about hotels near SZ airport.
Cheers,
BD
Firebird,
Thanks for the report.
Odd (or not) question for the folks here. I'll be traveling through HK in a couple of months and have some flexibility on the exact dates. Fenwick's is on my short list (along with some of the Macau saunas) and I want to avoid being there when the Navy is in port. Is there public info on Navy port of call schedules?
Thanks,
EBJust as a heads up from a fellow mongerer, the navy is coming late april to early May as lomg as they US doesnt boycott the olympic games and China lets them pull in.
Thanks but this doesnt work for me. I am going to Shenzhen airport and ferry service does not run 24 hours. I need to spend the night in HK and want to be close to the ferry for an early morning departure.
You should have said you were going to Shenzen in your original post, rather than have us overindulge you with information. I recommend the Conrad at Admiralty.
Gyaos.
If you are going to shenzhen airport from HKG airport,
1. Take A 43 bus to the kcr station , sheng shui
cost - 28 RMB. time -approx 45 min.
2. Take kcr train to louhu.
cost - 20 RMB time - 3 min.
3. When you come out of louhu station go to where the buses are. There is a van going to Shenzhen airport.
cost- 20 RMB time- 45 min approx
This route is good only between 7 am to 11 pm.
Thanks but this doesnt work for me. I am going to Shenzhen airport and ferry service does not run 24 hours. I need to spend the night in HK and want to be close to the ferry for an early morning departure.
Agree with Gyaos' sentiment, when asking for advise, please be more precise. Whatever the case, if you want to stay in Admiralty (2 MTR stops away), my personal favorite is actually the Shangri-La, right next door to Conrad. If you really want to be close to the ferry, the Mandarin Oriental (newly renoveated removing the useless balconies, walking distance) is closer and the Four Seasons is the closest (of the major hotel chains, might be some smaller ones even closer).
Since you don't seem familiar with the geography, I'll mention the obvious that SZN itself is a major city with plenty of accomodations (and entertainment). The ferry is not necessarily the best route to the airport. There have been plenty of opinions here, to each their own. Personally, my original opinion still holds true, go to Macau and party all night, then catch a ferry directly from Macau to SZN airport! Best advice ever!
Traveler1234
04-12-08, 23:53
2. Take kcr train to louhu.
cost - 20 RMB time - 3 min.
Do you mean "30" minutes from Kowloon Tong Station to LuoHu?
Do you mean "30" minutes from Kowloon Tong Station to LuoHu?
I think he meant what he said! See part 1 of his reply.
1. Take A 43 bus to the kcr station , sheng shui
That is the last station before LuoHu and about 3 minutes ride!
APAC Man
Brain Damaged
04-13-08, 15:30
Can anyone recommend a hotel close to the Hong Kong Macau Ferry Terminal, Sheung Wan?
I will be arriving late in the evening and want to catch an early morning ferry out.
Oh yeah, there is also the ferry from TST to Shenzhen Airport. Marco Polo has two hotels close by. Ten minute walk from the hotel to the ferry.
Saves you from having to go to HK Island and try to get to the Macau ferry terminal!
I think that the closest big hotel near the Macau ferry terminal is the Island Pacific. Ok hotel, about USD100 per night, including taxes and service charges.
Cheers,
BD
Hi guys,
Thanks a lot for all your pictures and report I was wondering if anyone could help me here?
I would like to know where is the best place to meet with Filipino, Thai, Indonesian girl on a week day afternoon?What I menat was working girls where can I find those on a weekday afternoon?
If you have a fat wallet or company covered trip, try private limo (cross border van), 100us, door to door, 24/7. At the border you just hand in your passport and open the door show your face and get lasered for temperature check. 3 min stop at border, 60 min HK-SZ. That's how I roll. J/K, I'm always behind the farmers with the odd smelling veggies.
PM me I'll call you one.
HT
SE Asia Joe
04-15-08, 08:00
Jeez Lobo - will you please get with it?!
Guys here are trying their best to help you out with information - and you come back with incomplete responses and sparse information on what you really want.
In fact, all your 11 previous posts had ALL just been questions questions and more questions.
Are you saying you are arriving in HK Airport, want to check in to a hotel close to the Sheung Wan Macau Ferry piers and then go to that pier to catch the 1st ferry to the Airport in Shenzhen? (not to Macau??).
If so, the first question I have is WHY?? why would you want to spend on expensive hotel in HKG (which these days during all these conventions will run you a MINIMUM of HK$1,200 or US$150/night - whatever grade hotel!) when you could easily just hop on a bus at the HKG airport when and where you arrived at, and go to Shenzhen directly. Take a Taxi to any Hotels there - even one close to the SZ airport - and you'd not only be saving bucks but also a lot of hassles and travel time.
Anyway, please tell us what is it exactly you wanna do - otherwise, I really think you're wasting everybody's time and really taking advantage of our generally good nature/willingness to advise.
SEAJ
Hello,
I am new to this forum. I will be going to Hong Kong in May and from there to Macau and than to Shen Zhen (SheKou). I will be arriving at the Hong Kong airport around 7 ish in the evening and I am thinking that the best thing for me to do would be to go to Macau right away and try to find a place to stay there as I have heard that Hong Kong is very expensive.
Anyway, I was hoping that I could get some good advice about how to go to Macau and any other information you guys might have. I am a White American, but I speak Manderin pretty well.
Thanks a lot for any help you guys are willing to give!
More sauna reports please! :)
More sauna reports please! :)
No problem!
As a semi-regular in the past at Ocean Dragon at Causeway Bay, last Saturday I decided to go and try out its successor in the same premises, Blue Sky Sauna. Many thinks are unchanged: the same effusive welcome, the same clean and hygienic showers and changing area, and the helpful staff. I spent half an hour relaxing with cigarettes and tea in the sitting area, and was then escorted through to the massage area, where Eva was waiting for me.
The massage rooms are also very clean, and the towels smell fresh. The massage itself was average but not incompetent in any way, and lasted about 45 minutes. Then Eva turned off the lights, tugged off my towel, and provided a few minutes of gentle erotic touching around the butt and ballsack before pausing to find out whether I wanted a simple happy ending ($88x) or FS ($1048). I opted for the latter, because she was definitely a fuckable lady.
Service was perfectly decent: CBJ, cowgirl, mish, followed by a cleanup and a few minutes alone to recoup.
Overall I'd recommend Blue Sky. It's not cheap, but it's conveniently located, very clean, and has a good service ethic.
Idler,
Thanks for that report. I tried Ocean Dragon once a while back and walk by the Blue Sky sign probably twice a week. Your report just might motivate me to give it a try one day.
Acer
No problem!
As a semi-regular in the past at Ocean Dragon at Causeway Bay, last Saturday I decided to go and try out its successor in the same premises, Blue Sky Sauna. Many thinks are unchanged: the same effusive welcome, the same clean and hygienic showers and changing area, and the helpful staff. I spent half an hour relaxing with cigarettes and tea in the sitting area, and was then escorted through to the massage area, where Eva was waiting for me.
The massage rooms are also very clean, and the towels smell fresh. The massage itself was average but not incompetent in any way, and lasted about 45 minutes. Then Eva turned off the lights, tugged off my towel, and provided a few minutes of gentle erotic touching around the butt and ballsack before pausing to find out whether I wanted a simple happy ending ($88x) or FS ($1048). I opted for the latter, because she was definitely a fuckable lady.
Service was perfectly decent: CBJ, cowgirl, mish, followed by a cleanup and a few minutes alone to recoup.
Overall I'd recommend Blue Sky. It's not cheap, but it's conveniently located, very clean, and has a good service ethic.
SE Asia Joe
04-16-08, 06:46
Hello,
I am new to this forum. I will be going to Hong Kong in May and from there to Macau and than to Shen Zhen (SheKou). I will be arriving at the Hong Kong airport around 7 ish in the evening and I am thinking that the best thing for me to do would be to go to Macau right away and try to find a place to stay there as I have heard that Hong Kong is very expensive.
Anyway, I was hoping that I could get some good advice about how to go to Macau and any other information you guys might have. I am a White American, but I speak Manderin pretty well.
Thanks a lot for any help you guys are willing to give!
I'd say your best bet would be just to go to the Hong Kong Macau Ferry pier building (ShunTak Centre, that Red diagonally striped building in Sheung Wan, within walking distance from Hong Kong Station of the airport Express, and where bus A11 airport bus stops at) and do comparison shopping. Match your own requirements with what is on offer or even ask to 'customize' a package for you - depending on your own requirements re Hotel rating, cost, planned activity in Macau etc.
Within the 2 floor proximity of the tickweting office, you will find a variety of travel agents offering you different "packages" which usualy includes a round trip ticket on the HKG-Macau Ferry and either 1 pop Sauna, or KTV experience.
Some agents specializes in getting bargain hotel accomodations - which can be as cheap as HK$300/weekday night and run all the way up to multi HK$ thousands for a suite at the Venetian (so much for cheap hotels in Macau these days!).
You can even go to a shop there and arrange to be "comped" first class all the way, just by depositi g a certain amount of $$ which you get back in player's chips at the casino. Like I said, it all depends on your own budget and what your planned activity would be in Macau.
there is only 6 daily ferries Macau-Shekou - check
http://www.turbojetseaexpress.com.hk/eng/schedule/prd_4.html
for more details.
anything else?
SEAJ
First of all I want to thank all the regulars here, thanks to your posts I had a list with several option for play, when I visited Hongkong last month. I had a look at Wan Chai first, but then decided to try the New Lucky house on the intersection of Jordan and Nathan. I had checked it on 141, but couldn't really remember the names, room numbers, etc. of all the girls, so I just walked along the corridors. It was a weekday evening around 10 pm, and many appartments seemed to be empty, but in some places the doors would open, if I stopped in front of them. I chose Apple, a slim cutie with a very inviting smile. I have no idea how they managed to give her a cleavage on her photos on 141...
She asked me to undress and shower, and then gave me a massage. She didn't ask anything about what service I wanted, or how much she'd want. Being in Hongkong for the first time and not knowing the local habits and rules, I was already beginning to wonder if a massage was going to be all that I would get. But after the massage, she quoted her price list, 300 for handjob, 400 for "mouthjob", 500 for full sex, same as the prices she has on 141. I chose full sex, but, even though she had offered that option herself, she didn't seem to want to do it. She tried to convince me to take handjob or blowjob, or to pay 600 for full sex, since, according to her, I was too big. So I settled for a blowjob, which turned into a mixture of blowjob and handjob, since I didn't do her the favor of finishing as fast as she had hoped.
The service wasn't all that great, as you can guess from what I wrote above, but she was very friendly and very naturally sexy the whole time, allowed me to touch her wherever I wanted, and we had a fun conversation, even though her English is rather limited and my Chinese non-existant.
Btw, most of you probably know it already, but here is an observation that I thought quite interesting. When I entered the room she still had the images from the surveillance cameras on her tv. She changed it quickly to some regular channel, but for me it was a little bit a surprise to find out that the girls could be watching you closely, as you wander through the seemingly deserted corridors...
Has any one tried K-Pressure recently? I used to go a lot, but lost interest when the quality of the girls dropped too low to fuck. It has probably been 1 ½ or 2 years since I have been there. Anyone had any recent experience at K-pressure; good or bad?
Netter,
I'll tell you why apple and many 141 girls are really uptight about the whole surveillance camera issue. The reason is because about 3 weeks ago, there's been a mass murder of these 141 girls. 4 girls were brutally murdered in those apartments. So a lot of girls are quite scared, and extremely vigilant about customers coming to their apartment. So you can't blame apple for being a bit more cautious. In addition, as i believe apple is quite small and a spinner i think. A lot of smaller girls are like that. If you pick the taller ones they usually don't complain as much. In addition, it also depends on when you go, when you go too late, the girls get worn out by all the previous customers and they get tired and or lazy.
So, keep it up, eventually you'll find one that you'll enjoy. the more times u come back as repeat customers, 141 girls usually treat you fairly well.
AsnDragon
First of all I want to thank all the regulars here, thanks to your posts I had a list with several option for play, when I visited Hongkong last month. I had a look at Wan Chai first, but then decided to try the New Lucky house on the intersection of Jordan and Nathan. I had checked it on 141, but couldn't really remember the names, room numbers, etc. of all the girls, so I just walked along the corridors. It was a weekday evening around 10 pm, and many appartments seemed to be empty, but in some places the doors would open, if I stopped in front of them. I chose Apple, a slim cutie with a very inviting smile. I have no idea how they managed to give her a cleavage on her photos on 141...
She asked me to undress and shower, and then gave me a massage. She didn't ask anything about what service I wanted, or how much she'd want. Being in Hongkong for the first time and not knowing the local habits and rules, I was already beginning to wonder if a massage was going to be all that I would get. But after the massage, she quoted her price list, 300 for handjob, 400 for "mouthjob", 500 for full sex, same as the prices she has on 141. I chose full sex, but, even though she had offered that option herself, she didn't seem to want to do it. She tried to convince me to take handjob or blowjob, or to pay 600 for full sex, since, according to her, I was too big. So I settled for a blowjob, which turned into a mixture of blowjob and handjob, since I didn't do her the favor of finishing as fast as she had hoped.
The service wasn't all that great, as you can guess from what I wrote above, but she was very friendly and very naturally sexy the whole time, allowed me to touch her wherever I wanted, and we had a fun conversation, even though her English is rather limited and my Chinese non-existant.
Btw, most of you probably know it already, but here is an observation that I thought quite interesting. When I entered the room she still had the images from the surveillance cameras on her tv. She changed it quickly to some regular channel, but for me it was a little bit a surprise to find out that the girls could be watching you closely, as you wander through the seemingly deserted corridors...
Dear AsnDragon, thank you for your reply. I didn't know about those murders, that is terrible.
...
In addition, it also depends on when you go, when you go too late, the girls get worn out by all the previous customers and they get tired and or lazy.
So, keep it up, eventually you'll find one that you'll enjoy. the more times u come back as repeat customers, 141 girls usually treat you fairly well.
Indeed, I was her last customer for the day. When I left, she was also removing her make-up and packing.
But I am sorry if I gave the impression that I didn't enjoy it. The service, let's say, left room for improvement, so I am hesitating to recommend her to others. But I had fun and enjoyed my time with her.
Unfortunately, it'll be a while before I will be able to return to Hongkong...
Fast Eddie 48
04-21-08, 07:40
Has any one tried K-Pressure recently? I used to go a lot, but lost interest when the quality of the girls dropped too low to fuck. It has probably been 1 ½ or 2 years since I have been there. Anyone had any recent experience at K-pressure; good or bad?Eye spy,
I was there 2 months ago.
This place is getting worst and worst everytime I go.
I don't think I will be going back again.
Just go north across the border to mainland Changping or Shenzhen.
Fast eddie 48
Guitardude
04-21-08, 10:30
Eye spy,
I was there 2 months ago.
This place is getting worst and worst everytime I go.
I don't think I will be going back again.
Just go north across the border to mainland Changping or Shenzhen.
Fast eddie 48I respectfully disagree. I have been going there 3-4 times per month for some 18 mos. now and find that generally they are good although not spectacular; only a few times have they tried to pass off a dog on me. If you are there strictly for beauty then go to one of the East TST Clubs or Rio or 18 in Macau.
What keeps me returning is the consistency of service. I have a list of 3-4 regulars that I always ask for, which changes every few mos. as providers leave. When on a given visit none of them are available I ask for a new one, and usually see three before settling on one. It is a good idea to remember the name of candidate 1 so that when you are looking at candidate 3 and candidate 1 looked better, you can go back to that one.
Hi all,
Great forum here. I've been reading through most of the posts here and have gained quite a lot of knowledge about the Hong Kong scene. That said, there are still some questions around 141 girls as that's most likely where I'll monger when in HK next month.
1) I've been on the 141 site (at least, I think it's the right one), and it seems you can filter those that are 141 vs. Massage. However, when I look at the profiles for those that are classified as Massage, you still see rates for whole package, which I assume to be FS. Am I interpreting this correctly? If yes, is there really any distinction between 141 vs. Massage girls?
2) The majority of the reviews that I've read related to 141 girls have seemed to indicate that it's basically 1 pop and done. Now, this could be because the reviewer was only interested in 1 pop. But is that generally the case with the rates advertised? If I'm interested in multiple pops, this would have to be discussed upfront? Or could I wait to see whether I'm up for a second pop. The reviews that I read where one guy got off 3 times and almost had a fourth paid about 900 HKD when the base was 500. In general, would you say the rate is based on pops rather than time? For instance, where I'm from (US), I usually pay for the hour, and even if I pop, I still spend time with the provider until my hour is up. I didn't get that impression in the reviews that I read.
3) I haven't seen too many instances of this mentioned, but do you tip and if yes, how much? Where I'm from, it's typically 15-20% of the rate.
Thanks in advance for any clarification you can provide.
I'll try to briefly answer your questions.
1) There may be a difference in the type of establishment but most if not all of the gals on 141 are in the business of FS so in that sense not much difference.
2) Usually its for one pop and depending on the gal you can negotiate for another 1,2 or more after the fact or up front. Your success and the cost will depend on her attitude and the rapport you establish with her. At least thats been my experience.
3) Generally, no need to tip but if she has done you right and you feel like it, 5-10% extra would be more than she would expect. I sometimes leave 500 if her price is 480. I have asked and the gals tell me most punters, don't leave a tip.
I hope this helps. Please report back about your fun and good luck.
Acer
Hi all,
Great forum here. I've been reading through most of the posts here and have gained quite a lot of knowledge about the Hong Kong scene. That said, there are still some questions around 141 girls as that's most likely where I'll monger when in HK next month.
1) I've been on the 141 site (at least, I think it's the right one), and it seems you can filter those that are 141 vs. Massage. However, when I look at the profiles for those that are classified as Massage, you still see rates for whole package, which I assume to be FS. Am I interpreting this correctly? If yes, is there really any distinction between 141 vs. Massage girls?
2) The majority of the reviews that I've read related to 141 girls have seemed to indicate that it's basically 1 pop and done. Now, this could be because the reviewer was only interested in 1 pop. But is that generally the case with the rates advertised? If I'm interested in multiple pops, this would have to be discussed upfront? Or could I wait to see whether I'm up for a second pop. The reviews that I read where one guy got off 3 times and almost had a fourth paid about 900 HKD when the base was 500. In general, would you say the rate is based on pops rather than time? For instance, where I'm from (US), I usually pay for the hour, and even if I pop, I still spend time with the provider until my hour is up. I didn't get that impression in the reviews that I read.
3) I haven't seen too many instances of this mentioned, but do you tip and if yes, how much? Where I'm from, it's typically 15-20% of the rate.
Thanks in advance for any clarification you can provide.
My wallet not so fat. Recently i went from HKIA to Crowne Plaza Landmark SZE and back using a shuttle service the hotel suggested. 200CNY (RMB) about 35US$ - each way - it does not run 24 hour but was very efficient and i did have to pay cash - they take hong kong dollars. There are a variety of these services for similar price. See attached jpegs for service sent to me by hotel.
Sunchit Cross-Border Limo Service
Booth A13 in arrivals hall HKIA
They then take you to hsop 21 is the Regal airport hotel (walkway) from which shuttle leaves.
ph +86 0755 861 00222
0930 - 2030 departures
In Shenzhen JL Tour in CP hotel buidling ph + 86 755 822 00565
If you have a fat wallet or company covered trip, try private limo (cross border van), 100us, door to door, 24/7. At the border you just hand in your passport and open the door show your face and get lasered for temperature check. 3 min stop at border, 60 min HK-SZ. That's how I roll. J/K, I'm always behind the farmers with the odd smelling veggies.
PM me I'll call you one.
HT
My wallet not so fat. Recently i went from HKIA to Crowne Plaza Landmark SZE and back using a shuttle service the hotel suggested. 200CNY (RMB) about 35US$ - each way - it does not run 24 hour but was very efficient and i did have to pay cash - they take hong kong dollars. There are a variety of these services for similar price. See attached jpegs for service sent to me by hotel.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the hotel shuttle passengers have to get off at the border custom hall, wait in line, pass customs, exit HK, then run to the shuttle waiting for you before it leaves, then get off after a 200m ride to wait in line again to enter China, then finally exit hall to catch the hotel van.
Am I right?
The 100us cross border van has dual plates (GD and HK) and will drive you straight across the border. The plates costs something crazy like 80K usd for 2 years and you need to have half a mill usd investment in China to wait in line for the plates.
200CNY each way? Please tell me its true.
Actually departing from Luohu or Futian bus stations its 150CNY to HKIA via HuangGang border. 45HKD from HK (Mongkok) to HuangGan border, then 10 or 15 bucks to FuYong or BaoAn.
HT
...The plates costs something crazy like 80K usd for 2 years and you need to have half a mill usd investment in China to wait in line for the plates.... Or buy an apartment in Zhuhai for 1 mio RMB and you get them for free. Still need to wait for 2-3 years.
200 RMB each way, no way.
Joe Banana
04-23-08, 17:57
Please excuse this report which to some will read like a porn mag letter but it really was such an exceptional night that I have to tell you all. Beats any of that 141 stuff anyday.
Well, I was as usual feeling horny so went to Wanchai late with the intention of a quick pick up and home. Into Neptune quick look around and jest about to leave to try fenwick when I spotted her, Filipina, white shorts, cracker. Usual chat and started the negotiating. She wanted 1500 as they all usually do, got her down to 800, deal done, all night two times come. Back home within half an hour. Gents there is no need to overpay.
Got here back to my place and discovered no tits to speak of but lovely ass. Little bit of kissing then asked her where she worked in Manila, sales assistant in Robinson dept store. Well that got me thinking and I asked her if she would like to watch a little porn. I had my favourite Evil angel vid where a bird is wearing tights (pantyhose to yanks) and the guy makes a little hole in them, which gets bigger, and fucks her. Well I tell her I have just such a pair of tights which I bought in Manila for just such an occasion as this. She just didn't believe it when I showed her a new packet of tights still in a Robinson bag. She was very keen to put them on and I was soon fingering her through the tights and her juices were seeping through the material, she really was getting very turned on. I was soon reenacting what was on the vid and had a hole made and shagging her with the tights still on, what a fuck and one I'll remember for the rest of my life. I then slept and had a repeat session in the morning minus the tights, brilliant.
Some of these Filipinas are excellent value and really are the girl next door type that have an ordinary job in the Fils and come up to HK to try and make a bit extra. I hope that the trouble they are currently having with China visas which they need to extend their stay by going to Shenzen for a day or so and then getting another two weeks in HKG doesn't cause the supply to dry up.
Remember that 800 honkies is just over 4000 peso which is a months wages for a sales assistant in Manila, they are very happy with that and the bus fare back to Wanchai. Treat them well and you can get excellent service.
Just an FYI for some who might be interested. The colombian population seems to be increasing at fenwick. I was there last week and there seems to be close to a dozen compared to less than a handful about a year ago. I was also surprise to see so many black girls or girls from brazil.
I do have a question though. There was this one Russian. She's about 5'2-5'4 busty with black hair. I tried to talked to her but was always interrupted by her friends. Anyways, anyone has any info on her. Is she GfE.
Thanks
Acer V,
Many thanks for your response. Much appreciated. Looking forward to my visit.
Cheers
I'll try to briefly answer your questions.
1) There may be a difference in the type of establishment but most if not all of the gals on 141 are in the business of FS so in that sense not much difference.
2) Usually its for one pop and depending on the gal you can negotiate for another 1,2 or more after the fact or up front. Your success and the cost will depend on her attitude and the rapport you establish with her. At least thats been my experience.
3) Generally, no need to tip but if she has done you right and you feel like it, 5-10% extra would be more than she would expect. I sometimes leave 500 if her price is 480. I have asked and the gals tell me most punters, don't leave a tip.
I hope this helps. Please report back about your fun and good luck.
Acer
Hi Joe Bannana,
Do you have her contact?
Rick Hunter
04-24-08, 05:05
I have not posted much lately as things have pretty much been the usual in Wan Chai, TST East, Mong Kok. I did however find an interesting event last Sunday. I was invited by an Indo maid to a school near Causewaybay for "Dancing Queen 2008".
There were somewhere between 300-400 maids there, about half were dressed as Tomboys and half as proper women. There was a stage at the end of the room and for most of the morning and afternoon either an individual or group would get up on stage and dance for three minutes. There were some real hotties there, and a few girls I recognized who often in the later part of a Sunday afternoon hang out in Wan Chai.
I was one of only two gweilos there so I got tons of attention. It would have been so easy to pick up multiple girls, alot of whom I do not think head out to Wan Chai. Alot of the ladies were really dressed up for the competition. I would have loved to have taken my pick for who to pick up but the lady who invited me got great "face" out of it and it would have caused a real loss of "face" if I left with someone else. She made my appearance worthwhile. She also let me know that these sorts of dancing competitions happen once or twice a month. If you ever hear about one I would suggest going, besides being a surreal experience it would be a great place to grab a sunday freebie. I think much easier than Wan Chai as you are showing an interest in something a girl likes and you are not automatically assumed to be a "bad guy" as you are when you are in Wan Chai. Plus the shows were pretty good too.
CNY200 paid, window down in the back of the shuttle bus wave at customs no exit no queue.
I will try to upload pdfs of the flyer i was sent by Crowne Plaza Hotel. It took hour and half each way.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the hotel shuttle passengers have to get off at the border custom hall, wait in line, pass customs, exit HK, then run to the shuttle waiting for you before it leaves, then get off after a 200m ride to wait in line again to enter China, then finally exit hall to catch the hotel van.
Am I right?
The 100us cross border van has dual plates (GD and HK) and will drive you straight across the border. The plates costs something crazy like 80K usd for 2 years and you need to have half a mill usd investment in China to wait in line for the plates.
200CNY each way? Please tell me its true.
Actually departing from Luohu or Futian bus stations its 150CNY to HKIA via HuangGang border. 45HKD from HK (Mongkok) to HuangGan border, then 10 or 15 bucks to FuYong or BaoAn.
HT
Website's staff guilty of living off prostitutes
Loretta Fong
Apr 25, 2008
scmp.com
A man who established an online prostitution website, the site's
contractor, and employees including a programmer and
photographers were found guilty of conspiring to live off the
earnings of prostitutes yesterday in the District Court.
It is the first case of its kind in which employees involved in
running advertisements for sex workers on the internet have been
prosecuted.
Chan Yuk-bun, 48, Peterson Wong Tze-wing, 45, Lam Yiu-chung, 35,
Kwan Yiu-cheong, 30, Lee Yiu-keung, 31, Andy Kwok, 31, and Chan
Chik Ying, 31, were each convicted of a count of conspiracy to
live off the earnings of prostitutes.
The money came from advertisements that appeared on the
Best161.com between March 2003 and May 16, 2006.
Sentencing was adjourned to May 14, pending background reports
on the defendants.
Community service reports were sought for six defendants, with
the exception of Chan Yuk-bun.
Prosecutor Anita Ma Wing-cheung told the court earlier that the
website mainly helped women at brothels advertise on the
internet.
Details such as the prostitutes' names, ages, services offered,
fees, addresses and pictures could be found there.
Chan Yuk-bun, who set up the company, iChannel Media, said
earlier under caution that he had expanded the business
operation since early 2004 and recruited the employees.
The company would send the photographers to the brothels to take
pictures of prostitutes, which would be uploaded to the website
and included in the advertisements.
The prostitutes were charged HK$600 a month.
The seven men were arrested on May 16, 2006, after police
officers had monitored the website for several months.
Delivering the verdict, Deputy Judge David Dufton said the
prosecution witness, a police officer who had been monitoring
the website, was considered a reliable and truthful witness.
The judge rejected the claim that there was no evidence the
money the defendants received had come from the earnings of the
prostitutes as he said this was obvious.
The judge said that Chan Yuk-bun knew that the money came from
the prostitutes' earnings.
He was also satisfied that these earnings also paid for the
running of the website.
The court heard that the company made a profit of HK$90,000 to
HK$100,000 a month.
The judge said the other six defendants must have known where
the money came from.
They knew that the details of the prostitutes were put on the
website to attract paying customers.
Meanwhile, legislator James To Kun-sun expressed concern that
the conviction might have implications for other fields.
He gave as an example a case where a construction worker helped
renovate a flat owned by a prostitute. If he knew his client was
a prostitute, could we say he was relying on the earnings of the
prostitute?
The laws were still vague concerning this area, he said.
Johnny Rocket
04-25-08, 20:53
Rick Hunter,
This sounds smashing. Can you give some more detail on where it is? And do you know the schedule or when the next one is?
Thanks!
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket
I have not posted much lately as things have pretty much been the usual in Wan Chai, TST East, Mong Kok. I did however find an interesting event last Sunday. I was invited by an Indo maid to a school near Causewaybay for "Dancing Queen 2008".
There were somewhere between 300-400 maids there, about half were dressed as Tomboys and half as proper women. There was a stage at the end of the room and for most of the morning and afternoon either an individual or group would get up on stage and dance for three minutes. There were some real hotties there, and a few girls I recognized who often in the later part of a Sunday afternoon hang out in Wan Chai.
I was one of only two gweilos there so I got tons of attention. It would have been so easy to pick up multiple girls, alot of whom I do not think head out to Wan Chai. Alot of the ladies were really dressed up for the competition. I would have loved to have taken my pick for who to pick up but the lady who invited me got great "face" out of it and it would have caused a real loss of "face" if I left with someone else. She made my appearance worthwhile. She also let me know that these sorts of dancing competitions happen once or twice a month. If you ever hear about one I would suggest going, besides being a surreal experience it would be a great place to grab a sunday freebie. I think much easier than Wan Chai as you are showing an interest in something a girl likes and you are not automatically assumed to be a "bad guy" as you are when you are in Wan Chai. Plus the shows were pretty good too.
FreebieFan
04-29-08, 07:58
Hi to Joe B,
Good report. Liked your fantasy. Lived in Phils for 5 years and have been going there on an off for past 25. Yes all the gals will always say that they were shop assistants. As they may once have been. Go to any bar in Burgos in Makati and they will always say they worked in a mall. Always. And always they will say its first time in a bar.
Reality is they once worked in a mall or dept store. Then started making little extra income maybe from a mall customer. Then more. Then regular HK or Singapore or KL trips as a means of easy money.
Anyways they did always work in a mall. Just not as their last job.
Also they rotate. Check their passports. They have gone for Singapore to KL. After than to Shanghai. Or HK. I know of many who I have seen in HK who then told me their travel plans. In fact one day I was in Orchard Towers in Singapore when one girl calls out my "bar name I. E. Not my real name. Was a gal Id been bonking in a private booth in a Makati bar not one week before. Great report tho!
Guys,
I've read a good subset of the info on the forum but haven't found specific answers to the following questions. Any input you can offer is appreciated!
With regard to the s_x141 site, and the girls therein. When I look under a specific building, if the girls are listed under 'Massage' and not '141', does that truly mean massage only? I noticed almost all of the girls for 'Hotel Reservation' are 141, but most of the girls listed under the names of the buildings are 'Massage'. Discretion for the sake of the police? Any enlightenment here is appreciated.
Re the 'Hotel Reservation' girls. Any tips for non-Mandarin speakers on how to best hook up? And, if I am able to communicate with them enough to direct them to my hotel, do I need to meet the girl in the lobby or just have her come to the room?
Finally, any areas of the city to stay out of due to safety issues. Day or night. For a tall, white, obviously american guy, but who knows the 'safety rules' of traveling in a foreign country?
Thx in advance
HKG is SAFE! Very safe any time day or night. Any where! Except maybe Wan Chai when USS Kitty Hawk is in town!! Just joking!
Hotel Reservation girls have their own hotel rooms most of the time. Just call and you will be speaking to their 'Agent'. He will give you instructions as to which hotel. He will ask you o go there and call again. He will then ask you to call again.
Most of the time they DO NOT come to your hotel.
If you insist they will most likely ask for extra charge. They will ask for your room number. They will call before coming up. If security allows they will come direct to your room. They maybe stopped if its after midnight. The front desk will then call you and ask if you are expecting a visitor. Its for your own protection. They will then record the ladies details. No problem for you.
Enjoy HKG
PM me if you need more info.
Johnsmithdoe852
05-01-08, 17:08
i've been reading these posts for quite a while and wanted to join the scene a bit, but found one little pocket of the scene missing some info. the strip clubs / girlie bars. in particular, and wanted to know: what's the deal? as i was passing by the area, and had an older mamasan try to pull me into a bar where i got just a glimpse of a girl dancing just inside (8-9 body but couldn't make out the face). i've read on the forums that these places will basically bleed you dry, but can anyone elaborate? from what i can see, the bar will [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you with the woman's drink and the mamasan will try to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you with a charge to take a girl out. is there any way to just go in and watch the girls shake their thing while enjoying a beer?
and on a separate note, are any of the girls willing to let you take pics/vids of them during the act as a souvenir? are the thais/filipinos, say, more willing than their dundas street counterparts? do you ask up front?
Timewaster
05-01-08, 22:48
HKG is SAFE! Very safe any time day or night. Any where! Except maybe Wan Chai when USS Kitty Hawk is in town!! Just joking!
Hotel Reservation girls have their own hotel rooms most of the time. Just call and you will be speaking to their 'Agent'. He will give you instructions as to which hotel. He will ask you o go there and call again. He will then ask you to call again.
Most of the time they DO NOT come to your hotel.
If you insist they will most likely ask for extra charge. They will ask for your room number. They will call before coming up. If security allows they will come direct to your room. They maybe stopped if its after midnight. The front desk will then call you and ask if you are expecting a visitor. Its for your own protection. They will then record the ladies details. No problem for you.
Enjoy HKG
PM me if you need more info.Do most of the agents speak english?
How easy/difficult is it to get an appointment with the hotel girls, especially if you are a foreigner?
The info on the site varies in accuracy. Most 141 girls provide all services up to FS or the full package. On the site under services for each gal, you sometimes see Massage only or NO FS, in which case its only massage perhaps with BJ or HJ.
Some girls use the massage thing as a way of refusing to service, for example, the old Asian girl dance of "my GOD thats the biggest cock on earth!" - so pay me extra Or can i do HJ and/or BJ (with lower price accordingly).
Most Hotel res girls don't speak English - mainly Mandarin but the papa or mama on the phone will or will find someone who does. A lot of 141 girls in the TST and WC areas speak English to some degree, although I must say that lack of English has never meant the service was bad.
Guys,
I've read a good subset of the info on the forum but haven't found specific answers to the following questions. Any input you can offer is appreciated!
With regard to the s_x141 site, and the girls therein. When I look under a specific building, if the girls are listed under 'Massage' and not '141', does that truly mean massage only? I noticed almost all of the girls for 'Hotel Reservation' are 141, but most of the girls listed under the names of the buildings are 'Massage'. Discretion for the sake of the police? Any enlightenment here is appreciated.
Re the 'Hotel Reservation' girls. Any tips for non-Mandarin speakers on how to best hook up? And, if I am able to communicate with them enough to direct them to my hotel, do I need to meet the girl in the lobby or just have her come to the room?
Finally, any areas of the city to stay out of due to safety issues. Day or night. For a tall, white, obviously american guy, but who knows the 'safety rules' of traveling in a foreign country?
Thx in advance
i've been reading these posts for quite a while and wanted to join the scene a bit, but found one little pocket of the scene missing some info. the strip clubs / girlie bars. in particular, and wanted to know: what's the deal? as i was passing by the area, and had an older mamasan try to pull me into a bar where i got just a glimpse of a girl dancing just inside (8-9 body but couldn't make out the face). i've read on the forums that these places will basically bleed you dry, but can anyone elaborate? from what i can see, the bar will [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you with the woman's drink and the mamasan will try to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you with a charge to take a girl out. is there any way to just go in and watch the girls shake their thing while enjoying a beer?
and on a separate note, are any of the girls willing to let you take pics/vids of them during the act as a souvenir? are the thais/filipinos, say, more willing than their dundas street counterparts? do you ask up front?
as a good old friend used to say, when you go to strip club in wan chai, you may not get laid, but you definitely will get fucked! your assumption is 100% correct, between the lady drinks and bar fine, and the girl price, you will be spending a lot of money for something that you can get a lot cheaper at fenwick.
apac man
JackTheLad2
05-02-08, 17:19
i've been reading these posts for quite a while and wanted to join the scene a bit, but found one little pocket of the scene missing some info. the strip clubs / girlie bars. in particular, and wanted to know: what's the deal? as i was passing by the area, and had an older mamasan try to pull me into a bar where i got just a glimpse of a girl dancing just inside (8-9 body but couldn't make out the face). i've read on the forums that these places will basically bleed you dry, but can anyone elaborate? from what i can see, the bar will [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you with the woman's drink and the mamasan will try to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you with a charge to take a girl out. is there any way to just go in and watch the girls shake their thing while enjoying a beer?
and on a separate note, are any of the girls willing to let you take pics/vids of them during the act as a souvenir? are the thais/filipinos, say, more willing than their dundas street counterparts? do you ask up front?
don't even think about going in to one - total rip-offs which will cost a fortune - both for your drink, the girl's drink, the bar fine and the fee to the girl. as apac man says you will get everything you want in fenwicks/neptunes/galaxy or any other place. yes, it is possible to go in an watch the girl dancing but you will be under pressure to buy drinks at least. if you have to go in, go with a crowd and stand at the back to watch but you will be approached. the girls are no better than you can find in any of the bars mentioned.
as for photos, i don't know but i doubt it. ask them, but if you don't buy them a drink i would suspect the answer is "no".
Nasty Nate 87
05-03-08, 00:20
Hi All,
I was wondering what time and place is best for getting a quality lineup? I'm sick of getting girls one by one and denying them all, and then leaving. It feels like such a waste of time.
I've been to HK many times before but I haven't gone in a while. But, this summer I'm going back and hopefully I can find someone nice to keep me "busy".
Don't even think about going in to one - total rip-offs which will cost a fortune - both for your drink, the girl's drink, the bar fine and the fee to the girl. As APAC Man says you will get everything you want in Fenwicks/Neptunes/Galaxy or any other place. Yes, it is possible to go in an watch the girl dancing but you will be under pressure to buy drinks at least. If you have to go in, go with a crowd and stand at the back to watch but you will be approached. The girls are no better than you can find in any of the bars mentioned.
As for photos, I don't know but I doubt it. Ask them, but if you don't buy them a drink I would suspect the answer is "no".I had to go to those bars with customers when I was working in HK. One day, it may be 10 years back, my boss asked me to go back there and check last nights bill of 15000 (no girls taken out). I went with a friend and that turned out top be the chreapest girlie bar visit ever. (I should mention that my boss and friend was a regular to this bar and blew loads of money there).
We had one beer each and didn't envite the girls. The bill came 140 for 2 drinks and I paid by card to keep the slip as a memory.
The girlie drinks ran 220 at that time. And a takeout for a regular customer very late at night was at least 2500. For others more like 4500.
I am not sure about the prices today, since I haven't been in such a bar for ages.
Johnsmithdoe852
05-04-08, 01:18
Hi All,
I was wondering what time and place is best for getting a quality lineup? I'm sick of getting girls one by one and denying them all, and then leaving. It feels like such a waste of time.
I've been to HK many times before but I haven't gone in a while. But, this summer I'm going back and hopefully I can find someone nice to keep me "busy".From reading the forum it should be pretty obvious, but it may not have been explicitly stated (recently anyway). You can check out 37 Dundas as well as various places in Macau; of which, to the latter I've never been. The streetwalkers in Mong Kok and TST East may also give you a lineup feeling. Finally, there are the 141 girls. It's kind of like shopping on line.
Hey all!!
Am new to the scene in HK. Will be down in 2 weeks time & staying at the Parklane Hotel. Any ideas of how I can find a nice girl around the area or if better a girl that I could overnight wid me. Thanks would really appreciate some help here.
Nasty Nate 87
05-04-08, 09:16
Ok So I made a post earlier about where to get a good lineup. I read that 37 Dundas has lineups. But I have read mixed reviews on that place. Is Dundas my best bet? Or is there somewhere else that will have better lineups (as far as quality/beauty of the women).
Thanks,
Nate
HKG is SAFE! Very safe any time day or night. Any where! Except maybe Wan Chai when USS Kitty Hawk is in town!! Just joking!
Hotel Reservation girls have their own hotel rooms most of the time. Just call and you will be speaking to their 'Agent'. He will give you instructions as to which hotel. He will ask you o go there and call again. He will then ask you to call again.
Most of the time they DO NOT come to your hotel.
PM me if you need more info.Sometimes the agents will insist on calling YOU!
If I don't have a cell phone in HK, what do I do?
Sometimes the agents will insist on calling YOU!
If I don't have a cell phone in HK, what do I do?Buy one, it's maybe cheaper than the girl.
Drfcarpenter
05-05-08, 13:48
During the last 5 days I spend my nights in the Bars of Wan Chai. Here is the report of night one (May 1).
The US Navy was in town. So the streets were swarming with sailors. All of the boozed up. All in all the atmosphere was not to friendly.
Arrived in Fenwicks at about midnight, when the ambulance rushed the victim of a clash between to sailors to hospital. MP was there and quieted everything down.
Place hat mostly Philippina and some Russians? and 4 or 5 black girls. But the quality of the girls was rather low, at least compared to previous trips.
Talked to a few girls and apparently they are still afraid of undercover cops who negotiate with the girls and then take them out and arrest them.
After some time I ran into a girl I met before in Shanghai. Decided to stick with something I know and took her home at about 03:00h.
Drfcarpenter
05-05-08, 13:49
US Navy still around. But this night they didn't let the riffraff out. I guess most sailors this night were of some rank as they behaved civilized.
Went to Laguna at about midnight. Place was packed, but mainly blokes. Not many girls around and the quality was rather low again. Drank a couple of beers and went over to Fenwick's.
Here again, mostly Philippina but nothing struck me. Seems the girls are not that much into going home with customers that much, but rather getting them to pay "Tequila Rock 'n' Roll" for which they get a kickback of HKD 60 from the bar. The rate at which some of those girls knock those drinks down and get their gentlemen to buy them more is admirable...
Left at about 3:00 to get some snacks in the food stall opposite Fenwick's. Chatted up a Phili girl who ate there as well, and brought her back to hotel. She performed well, but nothing out of the ordinary.
Drfcarpenter
05-05-08, 13:50
The US Navy finally left.
It's Saturday night and I started at Neptune 2 at about 23:30. Nice selection of Philippina with a few stunners. Approached them, but they were only interested in guys buying them Lady Drinks.
Placed myself om a stool at the bar and enjoyed the show. Those girls were good in getting drinks out of guys. As I said before, admirable.
Talked to a small girl that just arrived, but after a drink realized that the "chemistry" didn't work and abandoned her.
Moved to Laguna. Not packed and a lot of black guys there. The door gives those guys a hard time and makes them pay an entry fee. (Same in the other bars as well).
Sat down at the bar in the back and chatted to some Thai girls. One of them decided to come with me to Fenwick's. So had a couple of drinks and left with her for Fenwick's.
In Fenwick's was great party atmosphere. Met an old friend of mine we drank and talked about "good old times". That Thai girls kind of got lost somehow :)
At about 5:00 those two rather cute (after lot's pf beer) girls attached themselves to us. They kept ordering beers instead of Lady Drinks. I like that. I took one of them home and my friend the other one.
Quite a good session and some sleep until 15:00 hours.
Drfcarpenter
05-05-08, 13:51
Again started at Neptune 2. Same as last night. Some stunners aiming for Lady Drinks and the rest fairly ordinary.
After a beer or two this Chinese girl from Sanya came my way. I talked to here a bit (I speak some very limited Putonghua and she spoke some English) and asked her to move on with me.
We went to Fenwick's were I met my friend again. He was still with that girl from last night :)
We kept drinking and generally behaving stupid until about 3:00 and went home.
There are 2 types of Wan Chai Bars. I will assume we are talking the 'freelance' type bars such as Neptunes/Fenwicks. The filipina's especially (Thais are more independant) generally pay an arranger to get them the visa and accomodation. Any day not working means they have less of a chance to pay back the agent. There is no 'bar fine' that I have ever heard of on the freelance scence.
Most likely if a Filipina, her manager assumes she has had some revenue and charge her their share.
It does not go to the bar, so it is no barfine. But I am sure she still had to pay, unless she is in HK on her own (usually they come on their own after the first or second trip when they have enough money for the ticket.
Eric Cartman
05-08-08, 17:50
Hong Kong bars in Wan Chai.
Wan Chai has 2 streets that we found with the recommended bars: the main street has Fenwicks as well as Dreams II. One street closer to the water has Joe Bananas and Neptune II.
On a Monday night at 11pm, Fenwicks actually was pretty busy with a decent selection of Thai, Filipino, and Columbian girls. Dreams II was completely empty. Joe Bananas was pretty empty too. Neptune II was pretty full, seemed more friendly than Fenwicks, and got packed by 1am. Prices quoted by Filipina girls was about HK$1000.
English-language skills were at best mediocre. Surprising from Filipinas, who I thought learned English in school. Left without selecting anyone, having talked to 4 girls and bought drinks for 2.
-Cartman in Asia
Eric Cartman
05-08-08, 17:51
K-Pressure, Hong Kong
Directions:
MTR (Metro) to Jordan stop. Take “Exit A” from station, turn right onto Jordan, take 2nd right onto Woosung Street (7-11 on corner), K-Pressure is 2nd building on left.
Landmarks:
You’ll know Woosong as there is a 7-11 on the corner with Jordan, next to this on the right on Woosong St. is the famous Pharmacy near K-Pressure (genuine Cialis for sale at reasonable prices, without prescription), and next to the Pharmacy (on the right), is the narrow entrance to K-Pressure. K-Pressure’s signs suck – it’s all in chinese characters with just an English letter K. Also when you go in the narrow hallway under the signs, K-Pressure entrance is in the back of the hallway, past the elevators, up the stairs. Don’ t take the elevators.
Upstairs, you’re greeted and ushered into a private room where they will explain the pricing: $390 to the house, plus $100 to the “hotel” upstairs that rents you the rooms. These are actually K-Pressure’s rooms. Like Terma rooms – small bed, shower next to it. Relatively clean actually. The ushers then bring the girls in 1 at a time, and leave them in the room with you for 2 minutes or so. I had to tell them (in very broken English) to hurry the fuck up and stop leaving me with hags for 2 minutes. Finally I got her to rotate through 4 girls before she told me I’d seen enough and should pick. I picked an OK looking Chinese gal.
Took me upstairs to pay the Hotel, and lead me into a room. Undressed me and into the shower. There was a large inflatable air mattress in the shower, which she put down diagonally on the floor (it barely fit). She had me lay down on it to soap me up and body slide. While the shower was clean, I had little interest in being close to the floor staring at the tiles so I quickly ended that.
Onto the bed for a light massage and BBBJ and onto business (covered).
Wasn’t sure if I was supposed to tip the girl or not. Ended up tipping her way too much – smallest bill I had was a $500 and I couldn’t communicate “change” with her. On the way out I asked the hostess if you’re supposed to tip, and she said no. *shrug*
If what you’re after is a convenient, clean quickie with 5s-7s, $500 isn’t too bad.
Note on the Pharmacy next to K-Pressure: It was $390 for a 4-pack of 20mg Cialis. They seemed to have all the right hologram seals on them. Real deal.
-Cartman in Asia
Day 1
Hit Lan Kwai Fong then the pubs at Wan Chai. Mostly Filipinos, had a excellent Thai girl called Jang at Joe Bananas the last time I was here. She wasn’t that pretty but she was slim and her tongue was pierced which I really like, got great bbbj out of that mouth. I was lucky because her target punter had no interest her. This time there were a lot people around but way too many punters and way too little hotties. The market is not in the favour of punters here so I decide to give this night a miss and save my money for Macau where I will heading next.
Day 2 & Day 3
Stayed at my hotel room and watched TV, I'll save my money for Macau
Check out my reports there
Hey guys,
I have twice reported on Sunday afternoons at Laguna being one of my favorite days of the week in HK based on all the hot Indonesian Domestic Helpers having fun on their day off.
If I remember correctly, you needed to grab a date by 5:00-6:00 or so as the girls had to report to work later on Sunday night.
My next trip I'll be arriving later on Sunday and won't be able to get to Laguna until 8:00 PM or so. How are the pickings at that time?
Many thanks.
News Article - SCMP - 16th May
The operator of a popular online prostitutes directory that "encouraged prostitution on a large scale" was jailed for 18 months yesterday.
Chan Yuk-bun, 48, was sentenced in the District Court after earlier being convicted of conspiring to live off the earnings of prostitution.
The site's designer, Peterson Wong Tze-wing, 45, programmer Chan Chik-yin, 31, photo processor Andy Kwok, 31, and three photographers - Lam Yiu-chung, 35, Kwan Yiu-cheong, 30, and Lee Yiu-keung, 31 - were each ordered to perform 180 hours of community service. They were also fined HK$20,000.
The court had heard the seven made money by charging for adverts on the website, which they ran for three years until their arrest in May 2006.
It is the first conviction of staff involved in advertising sex workers on the internet.
Chan Yuk-bun had admitted the company made HK$90,000 to HK$100,000 a month by charging each prostitute HK$600.
His personal bank account showed HK$6.5 million in deposits during the years the site operated.
Deputy Judge David Dufton said a deterrent sentence was needed because such websites might allow syndicates to hide other criminal activity.
The company sent photographers to brothels to take pictures of the women, which were uploaded to the website and included in the adverts, which included the prostitutes' names, age, service offered, fees and addresses.
Judge Dufton accepted the prostitutes in this case were not subjected to control, influence or direction, unlike if they were involved with a pimp.
But he said the case was serious because it was "a sophisticated operation" and "encouraged prostitution on a large scale" for three years.
Also, despite a disclaimer, the website employed no measures to prevent access by the under-aged.
Hong Kong law does not prohibit prostitution. But it is illegal to solicit for business or advertise it using signs, or for third parties to derive income from someone's employment as a sex worker.
The judge rejected the defendants' plea of being ignorant of the law. He said anyone should know that involvement in vice-related activities risked prosecution.
Judge Dufton said advertising sex services was allowed under British law unless the prosecution proved those prostitutes were being controlled for gain. But he said Hong Kong was "reluctant" to hold a similar stance, given it was more conservative than a western country when it came to prostitution.
He said the website encouraged prostitution on a large scale and involved many women from the mainland, who were in the city illegally
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Just sharing my POV:
There are tons of websites providing these kind of services. Just hope that this sentecne will not give too much impact on their existens. It these websites where not availabe, it will definetly give us more difficulties to find the relevant information. But even this sector of the service industry need to keep up with the technology. Long gone is the day when you needed to buy a local news paper (you know which ones) and read the ads (text only) where little visual information of the girl was available (non existing). I just can not understand that it is ok to advert in the newspaper, where they also charge for these kind of ads (meaning they "earn"/profit from these sex workers?), but as soon you publish these kind of information, available and made much easier to a larger public, it become illegal?
No doubt these websites/services has changed the way of mongering and made our life a lot easier. They not only list the services provided, body measure, price, but most important and their largest advantage of them all, providing a picture of what you could expect of the goods!!! Although occasionaly these might not be 100% accurate. Anyway, I am glad to see many sites still are operating as usual, especially the one I consider the largest one.....Just had to quote: "Why we are the best?! Most accurate, most updated, largest database!!!"
Keep on happy mongering, Jazziton
We no longer accept right and wrong from the wise or higher beings. Today we set margins of right and wrong by limits of our tolerance. Matters have become so diverse and precipitous we don't even understand why anymore.
Half of Hong Kong is guilty of living off prostitution, according to this judgement. Travel, hospitality, retail, food, and all the freaking saunas and night clubs.
I don't think anyone will do it non-profit and risk prosecution from this point, guess it is ripe to go underground to the maffia, if they hadn't already.
"Hong Kong is more conservative than a western country when it came to prostitution." Really?? Please pass whatever it is you're smoking.
His personal bank account showed HK$6.5 million in deposits during the years the site operated.
I must be in the wrong business.
Gyaos.
John Smart
05-17-08, 04:48
News Article - SCMP - 16th May
Despite LE 'cracking down' on websites a couple years back and managing to shut a few down -- Best161 etc, one remained resolutely open thru'out -- 161 s e x -- the one being prosecuted, and referred to in the Moron Post article. And its still going strong. It wd therefore seem a reasonable assumption that we face no imminent threat of losing such websites ...
JS
AsiaTraveler2
05-17-08, 19:04
"Hong Kong is more conservative than a western country when it came to prostitution." Really?? Please pass whatever it is you're smoking.
Yeah, with the exception of a few States, I'm almost 100% positive it's against the law in the U.S. to even to pull your zipper down in a room with a woman unless she's your wife. ;)
AT2
My pleasure to help. I wrote the report you a refering to maybe 1 to 2 years ago to as it is a scene that is very prevalent in Hong Kong but not so easy for tourists to learn the ropes about in the short time they are usually in HK for.
Hello Rick,
I read your report on these clubs near Hilton Towers area. http://www.internationalsexguide.in...&postcount=2838
Sounds like a good way to start my first night in HK although it looks like a pricey way to start might trip. But, WTF. I would prefer an exceptional first experience with a Chinese girl rather than something less. Your post and a follow-up post by Le Licheur are the only ones I have found about this type of venue.
I am hoping that you might answer a couple (or more) questions.
1. Where is the Hilton Towers area? A Street name and address would be a great help. I did a google search and came up with nothing useful.
2. You mentioned the New Paris Club and China Club. Where are they located (street and address or some form of directions from Hilton Towers would be helpful). Are there other clubs that you would be willing to suggest?
3. I won't be arriving until 6:45 PM; so I will miss the Cha Mo (Tea dancing) time. Doesn't sound like first timers get a break in price for Cha Mo anyway. Do you have any idea of the charges for the post Cha Mo times that allow taking the girls out until 4AM.
I think that is enough to ask for now. I will appreciate anything you can offer on this subject.
If anyone else would like to contribute on this subject, please do.
Take care,
N1
Hi everyone. Yah. I been away fr too long but when you consider tht been busy cleaning up the house with an ex. Etc etc. Smetimes takes long. LOL
Okie. Now about business. I am in HK fr exactly 3 days. My second time. And been trying to hook up smething fr this eve. Everyone seems to quote 1200 HK$ for basic servuce and 600-700 frm the girls other services? Is tht a fair deal. Seems high to me because its US$250 almost.
May be my mind is skewed because juz rtrnd frm 15 days in Bali, jakarta and KL so you tend t get a bit spoiled.
Can smeone please please help. Good MP with services. WG / freelancing or any websites that have certain sevice level as experienced by fellow mongers. Will be a great great help.
Will update on recent escapades in other forums. And await some inputs for HK. Soon. Thanks all.
Keen Eye Joe
05-21-08, 10:12
Hey folks, I’m back from another trip to Asia, and I was able to spend a few days in HK. I met up with a 40 year old Filipina working as a domestic helper and she did a fine job of lowering my sperm count. But Joe likes variety, so during the hours she was working, I went out on the prowl. Here’s a compilation of what I found:
Before I go into much detail, let me remind everyone that we all have our unique preferences in what we like from the P4P hobby. For me, I love streetwalkers, especially ones dressed up in short skirts and wearing big "CFM" high heeled shoes. Stockings are a plus, too. Also, I’m not the kind of guy who wants a working girl to spend the night with me. Once I’m done, I want to send the girl packing and then head to sleep. One cum and I’m done, ha ha.
Another prerequisite of mine is that I don’t want to spend a fortune in my pursuit of happiness. I love the $1, 000 Wanchai Filipinas as much as the next guy, but that equals $125 USA of my hard-earned money. And since I was heading the Philippines after departing HK, I wasn’t about to pay that much knowing I could easily find a cutie in Manila or Cebu that would cost me between $30 and $40 USA for an all-night encounter.
When I’m in HK, I never ever pay more than $300 HK for a short-time session with a streetwalker. Usually I end up paying between $200 and $300. If I knew the language, I might be able to negotiate even lower prices.
Finding Chinese streetwalkers isn’t all that easy unless you know where to go find them. I’m sure they hang out in several places in the city, but I have found one tried and true place where you can always find pretty decent-looking Chinese streetwalkers who will provide adequate service. (Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so don’t flame me if you go there and think the women are ugly, ha ha).
I heartily recommend heading to the Temple Street market area of Kowloon. The best hours to find streetwalkers there are between 9 pm and 1 am, with the largest number of them out between 10 pm and midnight. After 2 am they pretty much all disappear.
For those of you know who do not know HK geography very well, the best way to get there is to take the MTR to the Jordan stop, then walk to the corner of Nathan and Jordan Roads. Cross Jordan Road and follow it to the left (west), so you will be walking on the right hand side of the road. If you see a lighted McDonalds sign, you know you’re going in the right direction.
Heading west from Nathan Road, you will begin crossing some small side streets. Parke is the first one, followed by Woosung. The third street is Temple Street, and if you turn right you will see this is where one of the large night markets is located. You need to walk north for a couple of blocks before you run into the wall to wall line of vendors selling all kinds of crap we can all live without.
Temple Street is closed to motor traffic and is pedestrian only. You can walk along the street in one of three ways. Most tourists walk up the center row of the market to gawk at the merchandise. But you can also walk along the two sidewalks between the backsides of the stalls and the storefronts.
What you need to do is walk along the left sidewalk, and on just about every street corner after 10 pm there are groups of two or three streetwalkers all the way up to the end of the market at Kansu Street. Prices asked by these girls are usually either $400 or $500. I always offer $100 less than they are asking, and I’ve never had a $400 girl who would not accept my $300 offer.
If you travel one block directly to the west of the market, you will find Shanghai Street. There are lots of streetwalkers who hang out here too, between Jordan Road and Kansu Streets. Prices here range from $300 to $500, but most of the $300 girls will accept $200.
Don’t expect any of these girls to speak any English, except the word "Massagie". But the language of lustful commerce is easy to speak. If you have a mobile phone, just type in the price you are willing to pay. Both of the women I had on this trip had their own rooms, so you won’t have to pay extra for accomodations. I was really nervous the first time I went upstairs with one, but I‘ve never had any problems. But I keep my credit cards and passport in the hotel room safe, and only bring a minimal amount of money with me.
The condition of the rooms varies from crappy to shitty. Oh this trip both women had the air conditioner going, so I didn’t get overheated. But these are not pleasant accomodations, and are strictly for "get it out, get it up, get it in, get it on, and get away" encounters.
Both women had condoms available, but I always bring my flavored Durex condoms from the USA. I don’t trust my little friend with "Made in China" protection.
The first woman I dated was standing along Shanghai Street half way between Jordan road and Kansu Street. I would guess she was in her late twenties in age, with a pretty cute face and shoulder-length wavy hair. This Chinese cutie was dressed in a short black dress with a slit up the side, fish net stockings, and cute 3 inch sandal heels. She was as sultry-looking as the day is long, and I knew I had to have her.
I walked up to her and said hello, and asked "how many dollars? ". She held up 3 fingers, which of course was $300. Normally I would negotiate down to $200, but I didn’t want to risk pissing off this lustful creature, so I nodded my head and we walked up the stairs located right behind where she was standing. She opened a locked entry door and we walked up another flight of stairs to her third floor sleeping room. The hallways were really skuzzy looking but the room was actually quite decent.
We both got undressed and she washed my member with a clean wetted wash cloth, then she took a quickie shower and we got down to business. She gave me a covered BJ for a minute, then began to suck my nipples as she stroked Mister Stiffy. I leaned forward and began to kiss her neck and blow in her ear, and she stopped licking and began to moan. Shortly after I motioned for her to start sucking again, and she did so for about 2 minutes. Then I indicates I wanted to start "the deed", so she rolled over and I pushed myself in. Missionary and cowgirl were the two positions we did, and after about 5 minutes I blew my wad. She then cleaned me up, and we both got dressed and walked down the stairs together so she could get back to work. As I was leaving, she gave me a hug and said, "I love you". Awwwww, of course I believe in love at first sight, ha ha.
A couple of nights later I had the evening to kill, so I went back to find another gal. The Filipina had done a good job of draining my balls, so I wasn’t really desperate to find anyone. But I stumbled across a true girl friend experience, and it was one of the highlights of my trip.
I’m guessing that not many Western men frequent this area. I’ve found that many Chinese women are not all that interested in white men, but some Asian women are really really are attracted to me, probably because of my blonde hair and blue eyes. Well, I stumbled across a woman who really wanted me.
She was around 25 years old, short black hair, wearing a short black skirt with some cute sandal heels. She wasn’t gorgeous or even necessarily pretty, but she had a sweet "girl next door" look about her. She seemed out of place standing on a Hong Kong street corner. But when I passed by, she smiled widely at me and said hello. I said Hello, back and started walking away. But she walked after me and started jabbering at me in Chinese as she grabbed my arm. I asked her what the price was and she held up 3 fingers. But I held up 2 at her, and she nodded her head in agreement. So off we went to her place, which was a short walk away.
As we walked, she reached out and held my hand and we crossed the street like boyfriend and girlfriend. She kept smiling at me too, and I sensed she really was happy to be "dating" a Caucasian man.
When we entered the room, she immediately put her arms around me and gave me a big hug, and then moved her mouth over to mine and started deep French kissing me. Of course I reciprocated and we spent about 10 minutes kissing away while sitting on the side of the bed.
I wanted to move things along, so I undressed and so did she. She cleaned me up, and then took a short shower. Afterwards we resumed kissing, which got me all hot and bothered. I then motioned for her to suck me, so she took my Durex out, slipped it on, and started licking away. After a couple of minutes she pulled her head up and said "Kiss", which was the only English word she spoke during the session. So we spent a few more minutes smacking away on the bed. But finally I was ready to get down to business. I was tired and knew I wasn’t going to cum too easily, but she didn’t mind the extra time I spent pounding her. We probably spent about 15 minutes screwing and she kept moaning like a woman giving birth, haha. From her body shudders I could tell she climaxed at least twice. Finally I blew my gasket, and got dressed. We walked hand in hand across the street back to her corner, and I gave her a big hug as I left.
$500 for two girls. No tips asked, no tips given. No money spent on short-time hotel rooms. In the past I have had some mediocre service given by Chinese women in Singapore, but so far I’ve had about 6 Chinese women on my HK trips and all have been satisfactory.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
MassPilot27
05-22-08, 01:58
After 5 trips to HKG in 6 months last year, I've had almost a year with no travel. Finally I'm heading back for a few days.
I ususually stop by K pressure as my post transpac flight reward. I'm short on time so want to maximize the fun.
I was wondering if anyone has ever tried to get 2 girls at once at K pressure?
Rick Hunter
05-22-08, 03:06
Nuevo,
To answer your questions
1). A good map site for Hong Kong is www.ypmap.com/en - with it you can look up any building or address in Hong Kong. Most of the places are located in the same couple of blocks in East Tsim Tsa Tsui.
2) The address for the New Paris Club is
96 Granville Road, 3/F Hilton Tower,
Tsim Sha Tsui East
Kowloon Hong Kong
The China Club is kitty corner across the square from it.
There are also a few clubs on Hong Kong side, most are harder to find though.
3) Take out charge varies but it is usally around $1,500 for the club and $1,500 for the girl. This is normally for about 2 hours but can be negotiated.
Hello Rick,
I read your report on these clubs near Hilton Towers area. http://www.internationalsexguide.in...&postcount=2838
Sounds like a good way to start my first night in HK although it looks like a pricey way to start might trip. But, WTF. I would prefer an exceptional first experience with a Chinese girl rather than something less. Your post and a follow-up post by Le Licheur are the only ones I have found about this type of venue.
I am hoping that you might answer a couple (or more) questions.
1. Where is the Hilton Towers area? A Street name and address would be a great help. I did a google search and came up with nothing useful.
2. You mentioned the New Paris Club and China Club. Where are they located (street and address or some form of directions from Hilton Towers would be helpful). Are there other clubs that you would be willing to suggest?
3. I won't be arriving until 6:45 PM; so I will miss the Cha Mo (Tea dancing) time. Doesn't sound like first timers get a break in price for Cha Mo anyway. Do you have any idea of the charges for the post Cha Mo times that allow taking the girls out until 4AM.
I think that is enough to ask for now. I will appreciate anything you can offer on this subject.
If anyone else would like to contribute on this subject, please do.
Take care,
N1
That was a most excellent report.
Funny thing...... I've been to HK a few times. I went to Temple street last visit and was a bit intimidated as I've never been there before and didnt know my way around or what the vibe was.
Your report put it in perspective. Many thanks for taking the time to share as it will be most useful to me on my next visit!!!!
Cheers.
John Smart
05-22-08, 08:02
Hey folks, I’m back from another trip to Asia, and I was able to spend a few days in HK. I met up with a 40 year old Filipina working as a domestic helper and she did a fine job of lowering my sperm count. But Joe likes variety, so during the hours she was working, I went out on the prowl. Here’s a compilation of what I found:
Further to Keen Eye Joe's good report on Kln SWs, I've found that while the girls can be good looking the rooms are often such a shithole, as Joe sez, and, well, it just aint pleasant. But anyway ...
On the issue of SWs I was walking along Woosung St (where K Pressure is) last Sat af'noon at about 1 pm. On the same side as KP, but about no. 69 (natch), there were some good looking SWs hanging around -- outside a shuttered shop. They all smiled and said hi, so they were obv up for it. I didnt enquire about price or where ever, as I was off elsewhere, but just add to the SW info in that area.
Further, on the SW scene, there used to be a lot of SWs hanging around at the Temple St / Kansu St junction -- as well as often in the corridors of the somewhat manky Alhambra Bldg. LE seems to be keeping that area clear now.
JS
Good N Plenty
05-23-08, 01:16
Any reason why there is not T & A (travel plan & announcements) thread here? I would like to meet up for a couple days to scout Macau with someone. I've RTFF, so I'm not lazy. Be there mid July. PM me.
Any reason why there is not T & A (travel plan & announcements) thread here? I would like to meet up for a couple days to scout Macau with someone. I've RTFF, so I'm not lazy. Be there mid July. PM me.Do you have subscription to receive PM here. I tried to send message to you for a possible meet up. I could not as it says you dont have permission. I am visiting HK soon. Will be there mid July.
Good N Plenty
05-24-08, 01:59
Do you have subscription to receive PM here. I tried to send message to you for a possible meet up. I could not as it says you dont have permission. I am visiting HK soon. Will be there mid July.I just tried to PM you & was denied. Maybe in a week or so.
I just tried to PM you & was denied. Maybe in a week or so.================================================
Hi Guys,
Subscriptions purchased by credit card are activated every day, without exception.
Subscriptions purchased by postal mail sometimes take two or more weeks for activation as there is a delay for the mail to reach me here in Buenos aires.
Thanks,
Jackson
I just tried to PM you & was denied. Maybe in a week or so.Your subsription is not yet active. As Jackson mentioned it might take time depending on how you paid the fees. Let me know when i is active. Mine will expire in another 11 days. I will renew it a day before expiry as I use CC.
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Can someone please tell me what the 'Hotel Reservation' means for the Address field for the gals on ****** dot com?
Is it the hotel reservation for the gal's room or is it reserving the gal for my hotel room?
This is my first time and am kinda confused... and this trip is a last minute planning so could not RTTF much although I did read a lot of reports of distinctions for a quick dump of sorts - which was pretty good...
Thanks,
-R.
Can someone please tell me what the 'Hotel Reservation' means for the Address field for the gals on ****** dot com?
Is it the hotel reservation for the gal's room or is it reserving the gal for my hotel room?
This is my first time and am kinda confused... and this trip is a last minute planning so could not RTTF much although I did read a lot of reports of distinctions for a quick dump of sorts - which was pretty good...
Thanks,
-R.Hotel reservation is for you to meet the girl in her hotel place. When you call the number, manasan will answer. Mostly they speak english. When you book the girl, they will tell the hotel name and time. When you arrived at the hotel you can call them again to inform that you have arrived. Then they will inform you about the room number. This service is quite common in HK. Enjoy.
Your subsription is not yet active. As Jackson mentioned it might take time depending on how you paid the fees. Let me know when i is active. Mine will expire in another 11 days. I will renew it a day before expiry as I use CC.
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Hi Naxnax,
There's no need to wait to renew your subscription.
Subscription renewals are automatically ADDED to the end of your existing subscription.
Thanks,
JacksonHi Jackson
You mean my CC will be automatically used to pay for the renewal.
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JACKSON
I just read some more of the pages here...
Read and printed Tiger888's maps... quick doubt here - is K Pressure located at address 37 Dundas? Or is it somewhere else?
I ask this coz one of Distinction posts says - addresses of 37 Dundas & KP - but the 2 pdfs' names do not have KP in it ... hence the query...
Thanks again,
-R.
If you are still there, google hong kong sex and onefourone and site will come up.
Hi everyone. Yah. I been away fr too long but when you consider tht been busy cleaning up the house with an ex. Etc etc. Smetimes takes long. LOL
Okie. Now about business. I am in HK fr exactly 3 days. My second time. And been trying to hook up smething fr this eve. Everyone seems to quote 1200 HK$ for basic servuce and 600-700 frm the girls other services? Is tht a fair deal. Seems high to me because its US$250 almost.
May be my mind is skewed because juz rtrnd frm 15 days in Bali, jakarta and KL so you tend t get a bit spoiled.
Can smeone please please help. Good MP with services. WG / freelancing or any websites that have certain sevice level as experienced by fellow mongers. Will be a great great help.
Will update on recent escapades in other forums. And await some inputs for HK. Soon. Thanks all.
Hi Jackson
You mean my CC will be automatically used to pay for the renewal.
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NO, NO, NO!
I DO NOT HAVE AUTOMATIC RENEWALS!
I DO NOT HAVE REOCCURING SUBSCRIPTIONS!
I DO NOT KEEP YOUR PRIOR CREDIT CRAD INFORMATION!
TO RENEW YOUR SUBSCRIPTION, YOU MUST BUY ANOTHER SUBSCRIPTION AND ENTER YOUR CREDIT CARD INFORMATION EACH TIME!
WHAT I MEANT WAS THAT ANYTIME SOMEBODY BUYS A SUBSCRIPTION, WE LOOK TO SEE IF THEY HAVE AN EXISTING ACTIVE SUBSCRIPTION, AND IF THEY DO HAVE AN EXISGING ACTIVE SUBSCRIPTION, THEN WE ADD ANOTHER YEAR TO THE END OF THAT SUBSCRIPTION.
PLEASE DON'T SPREAD RUMORS THAT THIS WEBSITE HAS AUTOMATIC, REOCCURING SUBSCRIPTIONS!
THANKS,
JACKSONThanks for the clarification.
Hummer Bird
05-25-08, 19:11
Hello,
Does anybody know of a very good wholesale dealer or megaplex in HK or Macau where you can buy camcorders at very good/cheap prices?
I will have a long layover that I am hoping will be productive.
Thanks
Hummer
Thanks buddy!
Appreciate your support and help,
-R.
Hotel reservation is for you to meet the girl in her hotel place. When you call the number, manasan will answer. Mostly they speak english. When you book the girl, they will tell the hotel name and time. When you arrived at the hotel you can call them again to inform that you have arrived. Then they will inform you about the room number. This service is quite common in HK. Enjoy.
Fast Eddie 48
05-25-08, 22:42
Hello,
Does anybody know of a very good wholesale dealer or megaplex in HK or Macau where you can buy camcorders at very good/cheap prices?
I will have a long layover that I am hoping will be productive.
Thanks,
HummerHummer,
Tsim sha tsui Nathan rd has many shops that you where you buy cameras and camcorders.
This is a heavy tourtist area and many shop have the HK goverment aprroved shop.
I's a good place to start.
Fast eddie 48
Hello,
Does anybody know of a very good wholesale dealer or megaplex in HK or Macau where you can buy camcorders at very good/cheap prices?
I will have a long layover that I am hoping will be productive.
Thanks,
HummerBetter buy either from Fortress or Broadway. All other place will definitely quote lesser price then these two trustable places. But they will cheat you somehow.
Better buy either from Fortress or Broadway. All other place will definitely quote lesser price then these two trustable places. But they will cheat you somehow.
One place where you can get a good deal and will not be cheated (most of the places around this area do cheat) is
New Sankyo Camera Ltd.
in the building of the Holiday Inn, entrance from Mody Road. The owner Tony really knows his job (also a rare finding).
I buy from him since 15+ years and never paid more than 50 HKD over the best realistic quote I got for any item, and I talk prices in the 10000's.
But you need to ask what warranty you get. Some items don't have any, others worldwide or only Hong Kong.
This may be out of date but contact details for Tony
Tony Leung
newsanky@hkstar.com
New Sankyo Camera Co, Ltd. Shop G-19 Golden Mile Holiday Inn 50 Nathan Rd. Kowloon HK Ph: +852-2367 0350
Get model numbers and call ahead.
He sold me a minolta SLR in 1986 and has helped several other friends. One of them had warranty problem with a Nikon and he shipped it to Tony who send new model replacement by return courier.
One place where you can get a good deal and will not be cheated (most of the places around this area do cheat) is
New Sankyo Camera Ltd.
in the building of the Holiday Inn, entrance from Mody Road. The owner Tony really knows his job (also a rare finding).
I buy from him since 15+ years and never paid more than 50 HKD over the best realistic quote I got for any item, and I talk prices in the 10000's.
But you need to ask what warranty you get. Some items don't have any, others worldwide or only Hong Kong.
Nuevo,
To answer your questions
1). A good map site for Hong Kong is www.ypmap.com/en - with it you can look up any building or address in Hong Kong. Most of the places are located in the same couple of blocks in East Tsim Tsa Tsui.
2) The address for the New Paris Club is
96 Granville Road, 3/F Hilton Tower,
Tsim Sha Tsui East
Kowloon Hong Kong
The China Club is kitty corner across the square from it.
There are also a few clubs on Hong Kong side, most are harder to find though.
3) Take out charge varies but it is usally around $1,500 for the club and $1,500 for the girl. This is normally for about 2 hours but can be negotiated.
Thanks Rick!
I love the map. Its an excellent resource. SUPER!!!! I even found Hilton Towers on the map. BTW, I had to add a "g" to the end of the web site link you provided to get it to come up.
Take care,
N1
Hong Kong bars in Wan Chai.
Wan Chai has 2 streets that we found with the recommended bars: the main street has Fenwicks as well as Dreams II. One street closer to the water has Joe Bananas and Neptune II.
On a Monday night at 11pm, Fenwicks actually was pretty busy with a decent selection of Thai, Filipino, and Columbian girls. Dreams II was completely empty. Joe Bananas was pretty empty too. Neptune II was pretty full, seemed more friendly than Fenwicks, and got packed by 1am. Prices quoted by Filipina girls was about HK$1000.
English-language skills were at best mediocre. Surprising from Filipinas, who I thought learned English in school. Left without selecting anyone, having talked to 4 girls and bought drinks for 2.
-Cartman in Asia
Paid a first visit to Neptune's II the other night, after being an occasional visitor of Fenwick's for several years. I have to agree that Neptune's II looked much more friendly. It seemed Fenwick's was not what it used to be, darker atmosphere with most of the girls appearing to be hardened pros, vs. semi-pros at Neptune II.
I would not draw any definite conclusions from this one visit but just wanted to share this experience. As far as a report of what happened that night, I know something happened, for at 4AM I had some naked girl in my bed doing a great BBBJ, however that is all I remember! Sorry, too many drinks...
Temptation
05-26-08, 17:51
Hotel reservation is for you to meet the girl in her hotel place. When you call the number, manasan will answer. Mostly they speak english. When you book the girl, they will tell the hotel name and time. When you arrived at the hotel you can call them again to inform that you have arrived. Then they will inform you about the room number. This service is quite common in HK. Enjoy.Sometimes though, you can have the girl come to you. That's more available on an overnight term, as opposed to ST. I had that experience, but I paid 200 more for the privilege (taxi fare++).
Finding Chinese streetwalkers isn’t all that easy unless you know where to go find them. I’m sure they hang out in several places in the city, but I have found one tried and true place where you can always find pretty decent-looking Chinese streetwalkers who will provide adequate service. (Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so don’t flame me if you go there and think the women are ugly, ha ha).
I heartily recommend heading to the Temple Street market area of Kowloon. The best hours to find streetwalkers there are between 9 pm and 1 am, with the largest number of them out between 10 pm and midnight. After 2 am they pretty much all disappear.
For those of you know who do not know HK geography very well, the best way to get there is to take the MTR to the Jordan stop, then walk to the corner of Nathan and Jordan Roads. Cross Jordan Road and follow it to the left (west), so you will be walking on the right hand side of the road. If you see a lighted McDonalds sign, you know you’re going in the right direction.
Heading west from Nathan Road, you will begin crossing some small side streets. Parke is the first one, followed by Woosung. The third street is Temple Street, and if you turn right you will see this is where one of the large night markets is located. You need to walk north for a couple of blocks before you run into the wall to wall line of vendors selling all kinds of crap we can all live without.
Temple Street is closed to motor traffic and is pedestrian only. You can walk along the street in one of three ways. Most tourists walk up the center row of the market to gawk at the merchandise. But you can also walk along the two sidewalks between the backsides of the stalls and the storefronts.
What you need to do is walk along the left sidewalk, and on just about every street corner after 10 pm there are groups of two or three streetwalkers all the way up to the end of the market at Kansu Street. Prices asked by these girls are usually either $400 or $500. I always offer $100 less than they are asking, and I’ve never had a $400 girl who would not accept my $300 offer.
If you travel one block directly to the west of the market, you will find Shanghai Street. There are lots of streetwalkers who hang out here too, between Jordan Road and Kansu Streets. Prices here range from $300 to $500, but most of the $300 girls will accept $200.
Don’t expect any of these girls to speak any English, except the word "Massagie". But the language of lustful commerce is easy to speak. If you have a mobile phone, just type in the price you are willing to pay. Both of the women I had on this trip had their own rooms, so you won’t have to pay extra for accomodations. I was really nervous the first time I went upstairs with one, but I‘ve never had any problems. But I keep my credit cards and passport in the hotel room safe, and only bring a minimal amount of money with me.
The condition of the rooms varies from crappy to shitty. Oh this trip both women had the air conditioner going, so I didn’t get overheated. But these are not pleasant accomodations, and are strictly for "get it out, get it up, get it in, get it on, and get away" encounters.
Excellent report and directions. I could follow everything regarding directions on the YPMap.
Regarding safety; is the area safe and would it be a bad idea to bring a camera and take flash pictures on the street in the market area. Its bad enough that I would stick out like a sore thumb as a white guy; but taking pics would certainly pinpoint me as a target in a potentially bad way.
Thanks,
N1
JackTheLad2
05-26-08, 18:33
Excellent report and directions. I could follow everything regarding directions on the YPMap.
Regarding safety; is the area safe and would it be a bad idea to bring a camera and take flash pictures on the street in the market area. Its bad enough that I would stick out like a sore thumb as a white guy; but taking pics would certainly pinpoint me as a target in a potentially bad way.
Thanks,
N1
You are as safe as houses in the Temple Street area - it is a bit of a tourist trap because of the night market. As a white man, you are even safer than others. Remember you are in one of the safest cities in the world and unless you are stupid you will be in no danger. I have been in and out of the many places there including "massage" rooms and always treated like royalty, and I don't speak one word of Chinese. You should still take the normal safety steps as in all cities and watch for pickpockets etc but really I have never heard of anything untoward there and I have been going for years. Taking pictures is fine - there will be plenty of others doing the same! I have it on good authority from the local LE there that crimes against white Europeans are almost non-existent. They don't bite the hand that feeds them.
Gentlemen,
I’ve never been to HK but will be soon this Summer. I’ll plan to stay there for 2 days. I’ve been reading the HK thread for the past few weeks, but it’s impossible to read all of them dating back the past few years. Many of you have talked about street walkers. I wonder if there are any legitimate (not ripped off) high class escort agencies there. For example, are the ones below legit? They look too good to be true though.
www.hongkongescort.com/gallery.html
www.escorthongkong.com/gallery.html
www.hongkongescortandmore.com/mainpage.html
www.delightgirls.com/mainpage1.htm
Do these agencies provide any GFE service you know of? If you just assume that money is not a major issue, how much would it cost for a high class lady that provides DFK and BBBJ, say for an hour and/or over night? I’ve emailed these agencies but got no response.
I’m not into massages that much. My preferences lie in the model looking type of tall women with natural tits like some of the ones shown in the websites above. I also see some white girls there. Are they for real? The delightgirls’ service page was taken out directory from a porn movie. It looks very suspicious to me. If these websites are not what they claim to be, what/where would you advise?
Many thanks
Gentlemen,
I’ve never been to HK but will be soon this Summer. I’ll plan to stay there for 2 days. I’ve been reading the HK thread for the past few weeks, but it’s impossible to read all of them dating back the past few years. Many of you have talked about street walkers. I wonder if there are any legitimate (not ripped off) high class escort agencies there. For example, are the ones below legit? They look too good to be true though.
www.hongkongescort.com/gallery.html
www.escorthongkong.com/gallery.html
www.hongkongescortandmore.com/mainpage.html
www.delightgirls.com/mainpage1.htm
Do these agencies provide any GFE service you know of? If you just assume that money is not a major issue, how much would it cost for a high class lady that provides DFK and BBBJ, say for an hour and/or over night? I’ve emailed these agencies but got no response.
I’m not into massages that much. My preferences lie in the model looking type of tall women with natural tits like some of the ones shown in the websites above. I also see some white girls there. Are they for real? The delightgirls’ service page was taken out directory from a porn movie. It looks very suspicious to me. If these websites are not what they claim to be, what/where would you advise?
Many thanks
All those websites are complete bullshit. They get their photos from other websites in the UK and US.
Just walk into Fenwicks or Neptunes after 11pm and you will have a vast selection of nationalities and prices.
Gentlemen,
I’ve never been to HK but will be soon this Summer. I’ll plan to stay there for 2 days. I’ve been reading the HK thread for the past few weeks, but it’s impossible to read all of them dating back the past few years. Many of you have talked about street walkers. I wonder if there are any legitimate (not ripped off) high class escort agencies there. For example, are the ones below legit? They look too good to be true though.
www.hongkongescort.com/gallery.html
www.escorthongkong.com/gallery.html
www.hongkongescortandmore.com/mainpage.html
www.delightgirls.com/mainpage1.htm
Do these agencies provide any GFE service you know of? If you just assume that money is not a major issue, how much would it cost for a high class lady that provides DFK and BBBJ, say for an hour and/or over night? I’ve emailed these agencies but got no response.
I’m not into massages that much. My preferences lie in the model looking type of tall women with natural tits like some of the ones shown in the websites above. I also see some white girls there. Are they for real? The delightgirls’ service page was taken out directory from a porn movie. It looks very suspicious to me. If these websites are not what they claim to be, what/where would you advise?
Many thanksAs HK dog mentioned do not ever try these websites. In HK better try the night clubs, saunas 141 gals. If you really want to have a different experience then Macau saunas and night clubs are good options as well. I myself will be in HK after 15th June for 7 weeks. If you do not mind joining me to get some help to go around then you are welcome. You need paid membership in ISG to send PM to me.
Muutseeker
05-28-08, 09:34
Paid a first visit to Neptune's II the other night, after being an occasional visitor of Fenwick's for several years. I have to agree that Neptune's II looked much more friendly. It seemed Fenwick's was not what it used to be, darker atmosphere with most of the girls appearing to be hardened pros, vs. semi-pros at Neptune II.
I would not draw any definite conclusions from this one visit but just wanted to share this experience. As far as a report of what happened that night, I know something happened, for at 4AM I had some naked girl in my bed doing a great BBBJ, however that is all I remember! Sorry, too many drinks...Scouted the area Tuesday night. Fenwicks, had the usually array of Columbians but not much else. New Makati was dead, Joe Bananas almost dead. Hit paydirt in Neptunes - the place was jumping.
Stood next to a group of thai girls - one was particularly hot so going with my standard modus operandi I chose the next hottest one to strike a conversation with. Turns out she just got into town (bonus points) and was returning to the game after a lay-off in the US.
No discussion on price, just took her to my hotel and had a BJ, FJ and CIM that will go down in my all time top ten.
Will venture out tonight late. Hoping New Makati will have something more to offer - a year ago had a most memorable night with some "sisters" from there and would be sad if it's really as bad as it was on Tuesday.
Enjoy!
So, I was in Hong Kong last week and tried my first 141 girl. Kit, Champagne Court B, Tsim Sha Tsui. I'm ABC, and she spoke very little English. I asked for her whole package rate, and she replied HK$500. Despite knowing that the site said HK$480, I was ok with proceeding because I was eyeing her large tits.
So we showered up and she gave an ok massage for about 10 minutes. A bit too hard on the lower back, but I bore it in stride and waited for the more exciting part. Once she finished, I flipped over and she started kissing me all over, though not LFK/DFK. She eventually got down to where she was going to give me a BJ, and to my surprise, it was a BBBJ. From what I read in previous posts, I think it's rare that a 141 girl will blow a guy BB. So I enjoyed that for about 10 minutes. She then put on a cover and hopped on for some CG. While she was riding me, I asked her how much for 2 pops. She quoted HK$900. I wasn't in the mood for negotiating (probably cause we were fucking and my little head was overriding my big head), so I agreed. Soon after, I popped. She cleaned me up a bit, but not too thoroughly. So there was still some cum on my dick.
We cuddled for a short bit, but then proceeded to try to get me hard again. She went straight for a BBBJ, even with the residual cum all over my dick. Now, in the US, I typically have a decent break between pops. This is more because most encounters are a combination of time and pops. So if you schedule an hour, you get 2 pops. Half an hour = 1 pop. So you have time to recover. Unfortunately, with Kit wanting to get started so quickly, things didn't pick up. Finally, I started getting hard after a while, but not hard enough to fuck. Nonetheless, Kit stuck on a cover and I tried to fuck her in mish. I didn't stay hard long, so I pulled out and was going to call it a day.
But Kit was a trouper. She said for HK$1000, she would let me cum in her mouth. I figured she could be at this for a while considering my dick wasn't up for it yet, so I wasn't considering passing. But I figured why not? So she went back to blowing me, and she was really at it. She then swung her legs around, and we proceeded to 69. For some reason, I really love eating out a girl's pussy while she's blowing me. In no time at all, I was hard, and Kit put on a cover, to which we then fucked in missionary position. I'm sure it was just a facade, but she really looked at me while we were fucking, and I slowed down to a pace that was more loving than fucking (if you know what I mean). I really enjoyed it. She was moaning and wrapping her legs around me. Pretty soon she started cumming and that got me off. I laid on top of her for a while kissing. She still had her legs around me for a while until I finally push myself up off her. She cleaned me up, and we took a shower together.
Although I didn't cum in her mouth, I still gave her the HK$1000 plus an extra $100. I wish I could have gone back while I was in HK, but I was with a lot of friends who don't hobby. So I didn't have time. But I certainly enjoyed my time with her.
FreebieFan
05-30-08, 02:21
Used to live in HK and go there every 6 months. Often do a nromal take out from all the places we know and love and have a lot of numbers on my phone for when I'm in need.
Bu this trip decided to be a bit different. And have me a busy sked.
Will arrive and soon thereafter meet an Indo girl on her day off. Known her four years. Weve had many Sunday afternoons doing the dirty. Haven't seen her for a while but she always shows up pantieless so its fine and fun.
From there hopefully can get to Laguna for some beers and dirty dancing whch is always fine. And then to airport to go meet Ms Makati. Bedded her in Manila a few months back and shes been begging (great for the ego! ) for me to go back. CAn quite schedule it so invited her and paid half her ticket.
Is a bank clerk there, not a player, but think wil lintroduce her to the dirtier side of HK.
She will leave on Tuesday night and from there have an appointment with another Indo. Gorgoeus girl whos married, but husband is away. Shes very dirty and was wanking me of one night during Rugby 7's in New Makati. Then home to hubby. Anyways promises to be a few days of fun. An whilst I'm paying for hotel, and food and drinks at least the fucks will be free. And plentiful!
Gentlemen,
I’ve never been to HK but will be soon this Summer. I’ll plan to stay there for 2 days. I’ve been reading the HK thread for the past few weeks, but it’s impossible to read all of them dating back the past few years. Many of you have talked about street walkers. I wonder if there are any legitimate (not ripped off) high class escort agencies there. For example, are the ones below legit? They look too good to be true though.
www.hongkongescort.com/gallery.html
www.escorthongkong.com/gallery.html
www.hongkongescortandmore.com/mainpage.html
www.delightgirls.com/mainpage1.htm
Do these agencies provide any GFE service you know of? If you just assume that money is not a major issue, how much would it cost for a high class lady that provides DFK and BBBJ, say for an hour and/or over night? I’ve emailed these agencies but got no response.
I’m not into massages that much. My preferences lie in the model looking type of tall women with natural tits like some of the ones shown in the websites above. I also see some white girls there. Are they for real? The delightgirls’ service page was taken out directory from a porn movie. It looks very suspicious to me. If these websites are not what they claim to be, what/where would you advise?
Many thanks
Investor:
HK Dog gave you the best advice of all. Ignore the websites and go directly to Fenwicks!
Woodman
I am arriving in Hong Kong on Sunday night. I have done Sauna 18 in Macau and 37 Dundas, but I would like to expand my mongering horizons. If anybody is interested in joining me for an evening or two of heavy mongering in Hong Kong or Macau, drop me a PM please.
Question: do you generally tip the girls at 37 Dundas?
Got to HK late Saturday and decided I wanted to replenish my supply of performance enhancers. I had read some earlier posts about buying either viagra or cialis in HK. Went into a small Chinese pharmacy midway between the Holiday Inn and Shangri La in Kowloon and asked if they sold either. The guy there had no problems with providing it. Never was any conversation about a prescription. I asked him if it was real or fake. He pulled out another box that looked fake and said he had both but swore what he was giving me was real.
I ended up buying 4 tablets of Cialis for $300HK. The packaging looks real to me. If it is a fake, it is a very good one. All in all, the purchase was no problem. Based upon previous posts, I was worried about being asked for a prescription, but the subject never came up.
I have done the RTFF bit not a problem.
just want to know the bar situation in Wan Chai, either Neptunes II or Fenwicks will be in HK in June, how are the prices stacking up I have been paying about HK$1500 for LT but at about 11pm to midnight..
Thanks,
Wizard
Question: do you generally tip the girls at 37 Dundas?I usually tip 100 for good service or if I received extras (e.g. CIM).
Got to HK late Saturday and decided I wanted to replenish my supply of performance enhancers. I had read some earlier posts about buying either viagra or cialis in HK. Went into a small Chinese pharmacy midway between the Holiday Inn and Shangri La in Kowloon and asked if they sold either. The guy there had no problems with providing it. Never was any conversation about a prescription. I asked him if it was real or fake. He pulled out another box that looked fake and said he had both but swore what he was giving me was real.
I ended up buying 4 tablets of Cialis for $300HK. The packaging looks real to me. If it is a fake, it is a very good one. All in all, the purchase was no problem. Based upon previous posts, I was worried about being asked for a prescription, but the subject never came up.
If that is real Cialis, then you paid a very good price. Back in January Cialis was sold in HK for HKD360 and later in April it went up to HK$380. This is at a few pharmacies that had been mentioned here. What is called "real" is distributed by a local company and has a hologram on the box and the logo on the inside two pill holders changes color at different angles.
APAC Man
If that is real Cialis, then you paid a very good price. Back in January Cialis was sold in HK for HKD360 and later in April it went up to HK$380. This is at a few pharmacies that had been mentioned here. What is called "real" is distributed by a local company and has a hologram on the box and the logo on the inside two pill holders changes color at different angles.
APAC Man
It looks real to me. As I said, he showed me the fake version, which is as you described. The box I got looks identical to stuff I have bought in the US. If if it is a fake, they copied it down to the last detail, including a perfect rendition of the informational brochure inside.
As HK dog mentioned do not ever try these websites. In HK better try the night clubs, saunas 141 gals. If you really want to have a different experience then Macau saunas and night clubs are good options as well. I myself will be in HK after 15th June for 7 weeks. If you do not mind joining me to get some help to go around then you are welcome. You need paid membership in ISG to send PM to me.Hey, thank you for the advice. You guys confirmed my suspicion about those websites. They look too good to be true. I’ll pass. Naxnax, I would not mind to join you, but I won’t be there until August or September. I may try Macau too. Do you speak Cantonese or Mandarin? I guess I’ll read some more posts on the Macau thread.
I will definitely check out Fenwicks and Neptunes. Regarding to the night clubs, I read about how the mamisan brought in the girls one by one for you to choose from. What happens after mamisan brings in 3 or 4 ladies, and you still don’t like any of them? Would she get pissed and show you the door? I’m afraid that may end up happening to me. I wish they would show you 20+ girls at once and allow you to pick one. You see. I tend to be extremely picky when come to women, granted that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I checked out the 141 gals websites. I found only 2 or 3 (out of 50 I’ve looked at) that I like, but my concern is that those 3 may not be available when I get there. I figure I need a backup plan. How likely would you say I can find a 9 or 10 model or playboy looking types in Fenwicks or Neptunes? I don’t mind to pay little bit more if I can find the right type. I guess my philosophy is that if one is gonna pay to get some, why not pay for the cream of the crops. Do you think I get a better chance to find my type in HK or Macau? Would you guys mind telling me the names of the specific clubs (in HK and Macau) that you think I'll have a very good chance to find a 9 or 10? I will keep on RTFF.
. I checked out the 141 gals websites. I found only 2 or 3 (out of 50 I’ve looked at) that I like, but my concern is that those 3 may not be available when I get there.
Whats more likely is that 2 out of those 3 would have been heavily photo shopped and you will still be disappointed!!!
Wan Chai has some top talent (Fenwicks/Neptunes) and the 1 or 2 extreme hotties are picky who they go with but cash is always King.
Macau nightclubs also have top talent but unless you speak Mandarin don't count on any stimulating conversation.
Naxnax, I would not mind to join you, but I won’t be there until August or September. I may try Macau too. Do you speak Cantonese or Mandarin? I guess I’ll read some more posts on the Macau thread.I will be in HK until the first week of August. If you happen to be there then we could meet. I do not speak Cantonese or Putungua. But I know the places in HK and Macau.
You can be picky in selecting the gals. As HK dog mentioned many 141 gals photos are photoshoped. So when you see them in person, you may have different opinion. So it might be hit and go for you. More young and beautiful looking 141 glas are not walk-ups. Only in hotel reservations you find the good looking one. Try Neptunes in the night or Paris club in the evening for your choice.
In Macau definitely you will find interesting good looking ones in Saunas like D1, 18 and Rio. They call it as model gals. Sometimes in Macau night clubs you can find interesting gals. But languague might be a problem there. If you got money you can always try there to wait until you find your gals within few round-ups. As far as I know if you do not like any gals in the nightclubs you can just pay the bill (might go anywhere up 1800) and get out. If you get a gal then another 1800 may be to pop. At saunas you can get a gla for only 1800 with some extra services as well.
Let me tell, somebody could classify 37 Dundas as a national treasure. I’ve been to 37 Dundas several times and I just love everything about the place.
First of all the prices are a little higher. The bang session is now 390 and the room rental is 100. I still consider it a bargain though.
After walking up to the second story, I am greeted by a very welcoming and enthusiastic mama-san who spoke very good English. She made me feel very welcome.
She asked me if it was my first time. She didn’t ask to make small talk, but instead was prepared to give me a thorough explanation of how things work. Rookies would find that very useful.
She then escorted me into a small room with a comfortable leather-covered bench to wait while she brought me a lineup of girls. She asked me what I wanted to (free) drink and I requested beer. A young waitress showed up 2 minutes later with not 1 but 2 free beers. I settled back and watched some American porn that was playing on the TV.
About 3-4 minutes later, the mana-san showed up with 4 girls. All of them were above average 6 to 7’s but one was very, very cute. Her name was Eileen or Ah-Lynn or something like that. Awesome body, skinny legs, tight ass, nice B-sized tits, cute face, and beautiful curled hair. I’d say she was a solid 8 and couldn’t wait to bang her.
The mama-san dismissed all the girls and asked me for payment. I gave her a $1,000 note and she returned in less than a minute with my change of $510. At first, I was worried that I was getting ripped off the price was $390…not $490. What happened though was the mama-san gave $100 room rental to the girl. No ripoff whatever; just a slightly different procedure than before.
Ah-Lynn took me hand-and-hand up 2 flights of stairs to the hotel part of the building and paid the attendant $100 for the room rental. All this time, she was smiling at me, hugging me, and giving me the total GFE.
We went into the room and she launched into a total GFE. Deep French kissing, rubbing me, disrobing me, and smacking her lips at the sight of my member.
She undressed and she had beautiful, large tits, a rock-hard ass, long slender legs, and a nice little partially--shaved snatch.
She took me into the shower, washed me thoroughly, used her tits a wash cloth, stroked my meat, and then gave me an awesome BBBJ in the shower.
After 15 minutes in the shower, we moved to the bed which has a very useful mirror above it. I then got the full catbath, some more BBBJ, and then a wild enthusiastic cowgirl. The sight of her tits bouncing around plus her pleasingly tight pussy and Merryl Streep-type acting performance almost made me blow my wad right away.
I banged her in almost every imaginable position and did everything I wanted to her. It was great.
I’d give Ah-Lynn an 8 for looks and 10 for skill. I highly recommend her and I highly recommend 37 Dundas!
I prefer the saunas on Macau such as Sauna 18 or Darlings...but those are three times the price. 37 Dundas is the first place I go when I arrive in Hong Kong and I highly, highly recommended it. Especially for newbies!
I am arriving in Hong Kong on Sunday night. I have done Sauna 18 in Macau and 37 Dundas, but I would like to expand my mongering horizons. If anybody is interested in joining me for an evening or two of heavy mongering in Hong Kong or Macau, drop me a PM please.
Question: do you generally tip the girls at 37 Dundas?
Glad you enjoyed the 37D experience. I agree that it is a great experience at the right price and convenience (ie not getting on a boat or train). Despite what some members might say, tipping is not the norm in Asia and HK. Not at restaurants or mongering locations. No tipping required at 37D. Period.
Was in Hong Kong and with sometime left before getting the cross border bus back to a China, went to a Starbucks in the corner of Pak Hoi Street and Nathan Road to use the wifi to check out the 141 and 161 websites. Look around for any nearby identifiable place and saw one advertised as ‘Body Massage’ in the 161 website. Called up and walk the short distance up the stairs and on to a mezzanine floor. I was met by a mainland girl who was on the phone earlier. Not much on looks but made up for any flaw by being very friendly and providing fairly decent massage. After the usual back massage, the turn over was quickly followed by a menu of extra services which cost from 100 for a handjob to 300 for the full works. Having declined her offer for extras, came the normal story that the girls do not make anything from the advertised fee of 138 but have to rely on the extras. Tend to believe her as 138 is not much in an expensive place like Hong Kong, so I offered her 100 to complete the one hour and left. While I went to this place to pass the time waiting for the bus and not met any girl which I would like to go with all the way, the visit to this place though basic could have been very different by having some other girl who may just cause me to miss the bus.
Rick Hunter
06-04-08, 05:11
The last couple months I have been traveling for work and not in Hong Kong to much and when I have been back here I have mostly been playing around with Chinese girls or in Wan Chai on Sunday afternoons.
Last night was the first time in a few months when I was looking to pick up in Wan Chai. While it was a little early, 10pm, the bars were empty. I was shocked as I have never seen it so empty at 10pm. There was almost no one in Neptunes, Fenwicks or New Makahti. Laguna did not have too many girls either. I picked the best looking girl from Laguna, although that was not saying much (she did have a tonge stud and nice breasts though) and took her nearby for a shorttime with CIM and full service.
Are the all the new mainland China visa restrictions that are causing business people headaches also affecting all the working girls? I had figured with the whole, and hopefully only temporary until the Olympics are over, visa situation with mainland China that girls would just start doing a visa run to Macau instead. Sure the ferry tickets cost more but there is no visa fee. Or is it that the Hong Kong dollar keeps dropping in value relative to the Baht and Peso?
It was quite disappointing. I may have to get my brown skinned fix while traveling and on Sunday afternoons and just have Chinese girls during the week
Last night was the first time in a few months when I was looking to pick up in Wan Chai. While it was a little early, 10pm, the bars were empty. I was shocked as I have never seen it so empty at 10pm. There was almost no one in Neptunes, Fenwicks or New Makahti. Laguna did not have too many girls either. I picked the best looking girl from Laguna, although that was not saying much (she did have a tonge stud and nice breasts though) and took her nearby for a shorttime with CIM and full service.
Are the all the new mainland China visa restrictions that are causing business people headaches also affecting all the working girls? I had figured with the whole, and hopefully only temporary until the Olympics are over, visa situation with mainland China that girls would just start doing a visa run to Macau instead. Sure the ferry tickets cost more but there is no visa fee. Or is it that the Hong Kong dollar keeps dropping in value relative to the Baht and Peso?
It was quite disappointing. I may have to get my brown skinned fix while traveling and on Sunday afternoons and just have Chinese girls during the week
I will be heading over to Wan Chai tonight - hope I don't see the same thing. I guess I better head on down to Bangkok a day early.
As far as I know, Hong Kong visa rules are unaffected by what the mainland Chinese are doing. But you are right about the hassle now of getting a Chinese visa. Anyone planning a trip to the mainland needs to know that the rules have been changed and it is a real pain getting a chinese visa. Luckily I renewed mine in January under the old rules. Another guy from my company had to get a new one for this trip and it was a pain. He only finally got the visa the day before we left. You now need all sorts of extra documentation and approvals from government agencies in China.
Rick Hunter
06-04-08, 09:02
I will be heading over to Wan Chai tonight - hope I don't see the same thing. I guess I better head on down to Bangkok a day early.
As far as I know, Hong Kong visa rules are unaffected by what the mainland Chinese are doing. But you are right about the hassle now of getting a Chinese visa. Anyone planning a trip to the mainland needs to know that the rules have been changed and it is a real pain getting a chinese visa. Luckily I renewed mine in January under the old rules. Another guy from my company had to get a new one for this trip and it was a pain. He only finally got the visa the day before we left. You now need all sorts of extra documentation and approvals from government agencies in China.
Thor93 you are right Hong Kong visas have not been affected by what it going on with the mainland visas. What I was refering to is flippers only get 14 days on arrival in Hong Kong so they typically do a few runs to the mainland border to exit and reenter Hong Kong but they need a mainland visa to do so. (Same for Thai girls but they get 1 month visas when they arrive in Hong Kong so they only need to do the border run half as often). Most girls do not make enough to be happy going back home after only 2 or 4 weeks.
I couldn’t help myself. I went back to 37 Dundas again!
I went at 1:00 in the afternoon this time. The procedure was the same as before.
Enthusiastic welcome, ushered into private room, watch some porn, drink a free beer, and wait 4-5 minutes for the lineup of girls to show up.
The mama-san brought in 4 girls, but all of them were older than I prefer (30-plus) and not as slender as I prefer. I would say all of them were 5’s and 6’s.
I rejected the entire group and after another 4-5 minutes, she returned with 3 new girls. This time, every one of the 3 girls was very, very attractive, slim, and full of smiles toward me. This new group was 7’s and 8’s.
I think there is a lesson to be learned from my experience --- it pays to be picky at 37 Dundas.
I think the mama-san brought me the girls that don’t get picked a lot because (a) it was in the early afternoon and/or (b) she assumed an old fart like me would fuck anything she put in front of me.
If you don’t see what you like, ask to see another group of women. Being picky pays off at 37 Dundas.
Has anybody else had a similar experience?
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Thor93 you are right Hong Kong visas have not been affected by what it going on with the mainland visas. What I was refering to is flippers only get 14 days on arrival in Hong Kong so they typically do a few runs to the mainland border to exit and reenter Hong Kong but they need a mainland visa to do so. (Same for Thai girls but they get 1 month visas when they arrive in Hong Kong so they only need to do the border run half as often). Most girls do not make enough to be happy going back home after only 2 or 4 weeks.
Right, this is going to cut down on the filipino contingent since they like to make that quick trip across the border to get the HK visa renewed.
I did go over to Fenwicks and Neptune II last night. Both places had a decent crowd. I hooked up with a nice Thai girl in Neptune. It was a pleasant enough encounter, but nothing really outstanding and today I wish I had not bothered. But it was a decent stress relief. Still it was silly of me to spend the money in HK when I am going to be in Bangkok tonight.
Easy Rider 2
06-05-08, 21:26
Hi Guys,
I have looked but cannot quickly find the answer.
I know that there was another web site similar to 141. Is it still in existence? Would someone please reply with the # or PM me?
Thanks,
ER2
Right, this is going to cut down on the filipino contingent since they like to make that quick trip across the border to get the HK visa renewed.
I did go over to Fenwicks and Neptune II last night. Both places had a decent crowd. I hooked up with a nice Thai girl in Neptune. It was a pleasant enough encounter, but nothing really outstanding and today I wish I had not bothered. But it was a decent stress relief. Still it was silly of me to spend the money in HK when I am going to be in Bangkok tonight.So what was the damage, for the Thai girl, ST or LT?
Wizard
i had 3 days of work in hk this week and my hotel was langham in mongkok. walked a few blocks to 37 dundas and tried both places (1st and 2nd floor). the first floor is definately the lower quality girl and i always seem to get some gal that wants to wash me for 15 min and suck my toes for 10 min. the upper floor girl was a littler better, but overall this place is for if you are really in need of some release.
the street action was being cleaned up by the hkpd. saw a few pimps being interviewed while the girls rep001tered.
i don't like the yellow sign places as it is hard to get comfortable in a room not so clean and 3-4 guys waiting outside.
i tried a place called the massage place on portland st just a few steps from kfc. after being told the whole menu i decide to take the 2 girl massage for 930hk$. this is will get your 45 min with 2 girls massage and then 1 girl leaves so the other girl can finish the last 45 min however you like.
next time in hk i will try 141 girl. i would have tried this long ago but i am not chinese and cannot speak the cantonese.
now i am off to pattaya!
da
The sites use the number 161 sometimes.
Hi Guys,
I have looked but cannot quickly find the answer.
I know that there was another web site similar to 141. Is it still in existence? Would someone please reply with the # or PM me?
Thanks,
ER2
I had 3 days of work in HK this week and my hotel was Langham in Mongkok. Walked a few blocks to 37 dundas and tried both places (1st and 2nd floor). The first floor is definately the lower quality girl and I always seem to get some gal that wants to wash me for 15 min and suck my toes for 10 min. The upper floor girl was a littler better, but overall this place is for if you are really in need of some release.
now I am off to Pattaya!
DAIf you're not into toe-sucking or anything else, don't be shy in letting them know. It's your time and money. I think the girls are trained to go through a certain regiment with us, whether they want to or not. For example, it's compulsory at some places that the girl licks your ass. Now I'm not comfortable with that at all and I'll tell the girl to just go straight to BJ. I'm sure the girl would rather keep her tongue away from my smell crack anyways.
I was just in Pattaya last month. Now that's the supreme place for mongering!
Nasty Nate 87
06-08-08, 17:32
Hi All,
I'm new to the 141 scene. So I have a question. If I go to a 141 building and I knock on a door and the girl that opens up isn't what I was looking for, what do I do? I mean, is she gonna be pissed that I'm rejecting her? Because I'm pretty she would know what is going on (I don't find her attractive enough). I guess it's kind of a silly question, and maybe I'm just not good at rejecting women. But what should I say/do?
Thanks
StraightFlush
06-08-08, 22:02
There's a number of different ways to monger, but my recent preference has been the bar scene, as opposed to the saunas, 141's, escort services, massage parlors, KTV's, etc. While having tried most of the different varieties of entertainment I guess that I tend to gravitate back to the bar/disco scene. In HK where I will likely visit more than other Asian cities in the near future, wondering what other top bars/disco's in HK that some of the members here will recommend.
As I'm travelling on business and staying typically is 4-5 star hotels, I've found good times in JJ's (Hyatt); Lobster Bar (Shangrila); Hari's (Holiday Inn). I'm still a relative newcomer (language is a problem) so the hotel bars are the easiest, although choice and variety is sometimes limited. There also ones you can easily go with business associates to find out their interests in co-mongering.
Wanchai bars are fun, and will need to do more exploring there, but not sure if they're appropriate to bring my associates until further assessment
Cheers
Vedado Fun
06-08-08, 22:33
Just say no thank you. She will close the door and you go ring the bell on another door. They're very used to this.
Hi All,
I'm new to the 141 scene. So I have a question. If I go to a 141 building and I knock on a door and the girl that opens up isn't what I was looking for, what do I do? I mean, is she gonna be pissed that I'm rejecting her? Because I'm pretty she would know what is going on (I don't find her attractive enough). I guess it's kind of a silly question, and maybe I'm just not good at rejecting women. But what should I say/do?
Thanks
Coming to HK as from the 12th for a week, and looking for a partner to look around and have some fun. Also interested to go to Macau for a day / night. Please PM me if you are interested to join and we can arrange to meet.
Have read most reports very informative. Thank u. From the reports it suggests that if you go to one of the big saunas, eg 18 etc, you don't need a hotel room, could somebody clarify whether you actually get your own room for free there, because I don't fancy sleeping on a chair or a recliner, however comfy this is.
Aris.
P.S. Anybody knows if you need extra visa for Macau.
When you go all, you will have a hit list from the websites for a given building. In addition, there will be some girls with rooms on other websites (Chinese only) or that were once on website and now are not etc. As you walk around if you buzz and don't find what you want, ask about one on your list, they will sometimes shrug, other times say "holiday" (out) or give directions. Some girls will come out to talk to you even if you don't buzz - its just business for them. Also if you get in the room and are not sure about sex, you can ask to start with Massage only.
Hi All,
I'm new to the 141 scene. So I have a question. If I go to a 141 building and I knock on a door and the girl that opens up isn't what I was looking for, what do I do? I mean, is she gonna be pissed that I'm rejecting her? Because I'm pretty she would know what is going on (I don't find her attractive enough). I guess it's kind of a silly question, and maybe I'm just not good at rejecting women. But what should I say/do?
Thanks
I will be heading over to Wan Chai tonight - hope I don't see the same thing. I guess I better head on down to Bangkok a day early.
As far as I know, Hong Kong visa rules are unaffected by what the mainland Chinese are doing. But you are right about the hassle now of getting a Chinese visa. Anyone planning a trip to the mainland needs to know that the rules have been changed and it is a real pain getting a chinese visa. Luckily I renewed mine in January under the old rules. Another guy from my company had to get a new one for this trip and it was a pain. He only finally got the visa the day before we left. You now need all sorts of extra documentation and approvals from government agencies in China.
I just did a trip to HK and on to Shenzen (June 7-9). I am not sure what are the new headaches for business visa but while applying for a Chinese business visa in Los Angeles the counter girl changed the request to a Tourist visa, even though I had a letter from the Chinese company. Even though I did not understand at that time, looks like I lucked out.
On the P4P front I was in the Murphy's Bar (basement Imperial Hotel, Nathan Road) when about four Fillipinas dropped by my table. Well, to be honest they were after the hansum young German guy at the next table.:(
Anyway, struck up conversation with one of them named Sheila. Apparently they had paid a manager (?) 7K (HKD) for a two week run and they had to raise that much to pay him off. Anything extra was theirs. They were hungry and broke (sob story?). Being generous (and drunk) bought her a meal. At least she was hungry as she cleaned off her plate. Then the obvious question came up.
Want company?
How much?
1500 dollars.
I may have had a few too many. But am I that stupid. Of course not. My brain goes to a calculator mode. Hmmmm, thats about 200 USD. No Way.
You know what, dear?
What?
I think I had too much, so I think I will pass.
Disappointed look.
So I squeeze her butt (discretely, of course and say) Ok, how about you come tomorrow morning to my room. Say about 9 a.m.?
OK
Next morning, wake up at 6 a.m. with a headache and the pounding rain on the windows isn't helping much. (I learn later that they had declared a Red Alert condition, which means all of HK is pretty much shutdown).
Guess what. Promptly at 9 am, there is a knock on the door. There stands Sheila with a friend of hers, both soaking wet. The friend is cute, but Sheila definitely looked prettier the night before.
Now, fellow mongerers. Who would have thought that they would really come. In all the torrential rain with a Red alert nonetheless?
To make a long story short, paid them 150 HKD to leave after promising them I would call her (Sheila) in a couple of weeks when I return. Yes, I felt guilty having deprived them of some earnings.
Lessons learnt:
They always look georgeous when you are drunk.
Never underestimate them and so don't give out your room number.
Ace of Spades
06-09-08, 14:33
I stayed at the Chunking Mansion a few months ago.
The postings about needing extra documents are correct. China gov wants proof of hotel booking and a return air ticket. I went to an agent who could arrange everything, including a hotel/air ticket that is conveniently cancelled after you enter China. I paid 1200 HK dollars but this was for TWO people, so about 600 HK dollars a piece. I got a receipt and returned the next day to collect my passport with new visa, no problems. I got a 3 month double entry visa, but I have to leave every 30 days. My visa will expire again very soon, I will be repeating the same process.
Considering the expensive nature of traveling in HK and the long lines to get a visa, it is best to have an agent do all the work.
If you get a single entry visa, the price will be lower than what I stated.
If anyone wants to know the name of the agent, please send me a PM.
Good N Plenty
06-09-08, 16:58
July 14-15 - want stunners.
To make a long story short, paid them 150 HKD to leave after promising them I would call her (Sheila) in a couple of weeks when I return. Yes, I felt guilty having deprived them of some earnings.
Dude are you gay? That was a terrible story.
Two filipa girls shows up at your door soaking wet ready to party, in a HK hotel room with the entire HK island shut down at 9am in the morning. Dude are you gay?
After confiding in you that they're hungry and broke, looking for honest work and shelter, you invite them there then send them out into the rain like dogs with nothing but scraps?
Remind me not to party with a party animal like you, dude. You're a worse drunk than that dude lost the phone in the SZ thread.
Did you even offer towels or something to drink? Next time find them and buy them a nice dinner and apologize.
HT
William Tellhk
06-10-08, 01:21
Dude are you gay? That was a terrible story.
Two filipa girls shows up at your door soaking wet ready to party, in a HK hotel room with the entire HK island shut down at 9am in the morning. Dude are you gay?
After confiding in you that they're hungry and broke, looking for honest work and shelter, you invite them here then send them out into the rain like dogs with nothing but scraps?
Remind me not to party with a party animal like you, dude. You're a worse drunk than that dude lost the phone in the SZ thread.
Did you even offer towels or something to drink? Next time find them and buy them a nice dinner and apologize.
HT
I am sorry, but i have to fully agree. What a missed opportunity.
Its what we do...
...Lessons learnt:
They always look georgeous when you are drunk.
Never underestimate them and so don't give out your room number.
We never do ugly girls. but occasionally wake up besides one.
FreebieFan
06-10-08, 10:22
Have been visiting Hk hundreds of times in past 20 year and have a set routine of scoring with an Indon who I know (if shes not theres always Plan B and C) and as she has to leave by 6pm then I have time to get to Laguna.
(Ok the perfectionists will state Laguna hasnt ben there for 20 years. True. But before that there was always Makati and Big Apple.
(Side note. New Makati is called New Makati as old one burnt down in early 1990's)
Anyways was in Laguna groping and getting groped the way we all are on a Sunday. Met (bumped into) a Filipina, tall and clearly a helper and not a player. She was a little giggly and I found out she was new to Laguna. We talked for at least one minute, kissed, and then my phone started ringing in vibrate mode. Next thing I knew, as the lady had a short revealing dress on, I had my vibrating phone on her nipple. Id put it down her dress. Don't ask why. Too many beers. She loved it and gave me a real strong reaction.
So after this episode, I called my own phone from my spare phone, and managed to place this against her pussy, whilt on vibrate mode. We were in the dark area near the toilets. Anyways from there lots of mad and probably quite visible groping. But she had to go home somewhere in Mid levels.
She will be sourced and located on the next trip!
Dude are you gay? That was a terrible story.
Two filipa girls shows up at your door soaking wet ready to party, in a HK hotel room with the entire HK island shut down at 9am in the morning. Dude are you gay?
After confiding in you that they're hungry and broke, looking for honest work and shelter, you invite them there then send them out into the rain like dogs with nothing but scraps?
Remind me not to party with a party animal like you, dude. You're a worse drunk than that dude lost the phone in the SZ thread.
Did you even offer towels or something to drink? Next time find them and buy them a nice dinner and apologize.
HT
Hey, anyone who knows me that I am a sucker for sob stories. You missed my last line. "They look more beautiful, hell, even gorgeous when you are drunk." No, sir they weren't worth $400 USD for a couple of hours.
And no, I did not send them out cold and wet. They dried themselves off, blow dried their hair and were warm and toasty when I sent them out. Even gave them taxi money (though I doubt they took a taxi back).
If you are in HK and want them, PM me and I will give you their number.
Hi All,
I'm based in Taipei and my company's secretary let my visa expire without warning me, so I now have to do that visa trip to Hong Kong on Friday. My company bought me this cheapest ticket they could find, as well, so I'm flying in at 9:00 AM and flying out at 8:00 PM.
What I'm hoping you guys can recommend is a sauna-type place where I can kill time. I sometimes go to the sauna on top of the AsiaWorld Dept. Store in Taipei and that's what I'd like. A place I could nap, lounge, soak in a hot tub, eat and get a good FS with a 7-9 type younger girl. I can pass for a Chinese and speak Mandy reasonably well, but no Cantonese, if that matters.
I've been to HK a few times but never mongered there, so I'm unsure of prices. I'm willing to spend, at most, equivalent to US$200, which is a bit more than AsiaWorld's damage. Also, if someone wants to join me, let me know. Otherwise, throw me a bone so I can use mine?
Hi All,
I'm based in Taipei and my company's secretary let my visa expire without warning me, so I now have to do that visa trip to Hong Kong on Friday. My company bought me this cheapest ticket they could find, as well, so I'm flying in at 9:00 AM and flying out at 8:00 PM.
What I'm hoping you guys can recommend is a sauna-type place where I can kill time. I sometimes go to the sauna on top of the AsiaWorld Dept. Store in Taipei and that's what I'd like. A place I could nap, lounge, soak in a hot tub, eat and get a good FS with a 7-9 type younger girl. I can pass for a Chinese and speak Mandy reasonably well, but no Cantonese, if that matters.
I've been to HK a few times but never mongered there, so I'm unsure of prices. I'm willing to spend, at most, equivalent to US$200, which is a bit more than AsiaWorld's damage. Also, if someone wants to join me, let me know. Otherwise, throw me a bone so I can use mine?Sorry mate, can't help you on the sauna. But my recommendation is - change the employer
Have a good time in HK
You have several to choose from on Kowloon side.
Regency Spa was good when I visited. see website here: http://www.man169.com/default.php?shop=154
I haven't been but my local friends say the Kings Sauna is quite good
http://www.man169.com/default.php?shop=176
Both are likely to compare well with the Asiaworld in Taipei. FS should set you back less than HK$1000.
Have a good time and be sure to report back!
Acer
Hi All,
I'm based in Taipei and my company's secretary let my visa expire without warning me, so I now have to do that visa trip to Hong Kong on Friday. My company bought me this cheapest ticket they could find, as well, so I'm flying in at 9:00 AM and flying out at 8:00 PM.
What I'm hoping you guys can recommend is a sauna-type place where I can kill time. I sometimes go to the sauna on top of the AsiaWorld Dept. Store in Taipei and that's what I'd like. A place I could nap, lounge, soak in a hot tub, eat and get a good FS with a 7-9 type younger girl. I can pass for a Chinese and speak Mandy reasonably well, but no Cantonese, if that matters.
I've been to HK a few times but never mongered there, so I'm unsure of prices. I'm willing to spend, at most, equivalent to US$200, which is a bit more than AsiaWorld's damage. Also, if someone wants to join me, let me know. Otherwise, throw me a bone so I can use mine?
Sorry mate, can't help you on the sauna. But my recommendation is - change the employer
Have a good time in HKI hear you Zuzon, but when shit happens, sometimes the turd has a golden hue! This is off-topic, but it was just a girl not long out of college in a clerk position who blew my visa. The boss fired her, but I got him to take her back on probation, which makes me look good to the office ladies. The boss also offered me a better ticket, but I said don't bother (so I'll have time for the Regency Spa). And get this, the boss gave me NT$5, 000 (about US$150) for the airport train and meals, but guess what most of that will subsidize The company's also driving me to and from the airport and paying the piddling visa overstay fine. Change your mind yet? Tomorrow will beat the hell out of sitting on my leather ass in a cubicle.
Acer V, thanks a lot for the links. I'm going to hit the Regency Spa, as the directions say it is a 5-minute walk from a mass transit station. From the pics, it looks like the place and the ladies are just what I'm looking for. Thanks again, and you'll get a full report on my first mongering adventure in Hong Kong.
My favourite sauna (tried already 3 or 4) is in Sunshine Building 607 Nathan Road. Have been there last year, was happy and yesterday the same.
Went up to the 3rd floor, 400HKD for 90min Happy End. No full service but this is okay.
After cleaning up it starts: First one hour very good body massage. Hong Kong massage I like very much. You are lying with your front on this special bed with the hole for the face. Then t first massage from top to end without oil. The girl also does massage with her feeth. Later on you will be oiled and again a massage. This last about 50 minutes or one hour or so. Then the girl asks you toilette? (she must) and returns with hot towels. You will be cleaned with them and second important part starts.
The light will be reduced, you still lay on front. The girl straddles your legs and sit between them behind you. Then she starts the massage from your best parts of your body. An intensive oil massage from your balls, the ass crack, your scrotum. Would say, this area is a more sensitive area than the dick. Beautiful about 15 minutes or more. Only this part, very very good.
After finishing these parts of body you may turn and the final round starts. Also with oil a good sensitive slow handjob starts. Also stimulating done by kissing your nipples and touching your body with her tits. While see's doing it, this girl allows some investigation of her body. I may touch and press her boobs and slowly my hand goes down under her skirt. Good thing that Chinese girls wear short skirts with not so tight slips. So I may touch her holy area and also do some investigation of her vagina. Very wet, very nice and in the meantime she is still busy with my best part.
Overall: Sex with girl is very nice, but such a massage I will never miss. It is really relaxing, you feel other parts of your body and you can enjoy being touched very nice.
A really Happy End!
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I stayed at the Chunking Mansion a few months ago.
The postings about needing extra documents are correct. China gov wants proof of hotel booking and a return air ticket. I went to an agent who could arrange everything, including a hotel/air ticket that is conveniently cancelled after you enter China. I paid 1200 HK dollars but this was for TWO people, so about 600 HK dollars a piece. I got a receipt and returned the next day to collect my passport with new visa, no problems. I got a 3 month double entry visa, but I have to leave every 30 days. My visa will expire again very soon, I will be repeating the same process.
Considering the expensive nature of traveling in HK and the long lines to get a visa, it is best to have an agent do all the work.
If you get a single entry visa, the price will be lower than what I stated.
If anyone wants to know the name of the agent, please send me a PM.Can you give me the contacts for this agent? So every 30 days you have to return to HK to re apply for a visa and go back?
My favourite sauna (tried already 3 or 4) is in Sunshine Building 607 Nathan Road. Have been there last year, was happy and yesterday the same.[/blue][/size]Thanks for the nice report. Can you please let me know the name of the sauna.
I hear you Zuzon, but when shit happens, sometimes the turd has a golden hue! This is off-topic, but it was just a girl not long out of college in a clerk position who blew my visa. The boss fired her, but I got him to take her back on probation, which makes me look good to the office ladies. The boss also offered me a better ticket, but I said don't bother (so I'll have time for the Regency Spa). And get this, the boss gave me NT$5, 000 (about US$150) for the airport train and meals, but guess what most of that will subsidize The company's also driving me to and from the airport and paying the piddling visa overstay fine. Change your mind yet? Tomorrow will beat the hell out of sitting on my leather ass in a cubicle.
Acer V, thanks a lot for the links. I'm going to hit the Regency Spa, as the directions say it is a 5-minute walk from a mass transit station. From the pics, it looks like the place and the ladies are just what I'm looking for. Thanks again, and you'll get a full report on my first mongering adventure in Hong Kong.I am glad that things turned your way so that you can truly enjoy the trip to HK and the extra perks that will be available for you in HK. One last tip: keep your own diary about expiring visa , permits tax deadlines etc and use secretarial assistance only as backup for such important matters.
Enjoy our service here in HK despite th shitty weather today
My favourite sauna (tried already 3 or 4) is in Sunshine Building 607 Nathan Road. Have been there last year, was happy and yesterday the same.
Just a correction that this is "Sun Hing Building" 新興大廈 not "Sunshine Building". Sunshine building is in Argyle Street.
APAC Man
Just a correction that this is "Sun Hing Building" 新興大廈 not "Sunshine Building". Sunshine building is in Argyle Street.
APAC ManYes your are right. Also there are two saunas there:
East Lake Sauna , 10/F, Sun Hing Bldg., 607 Nathan Road, Mong Kok, Kowloon
FAIRY-TALE ISLAND SAUNA, No. 801-804 & 816-820, 8/F, Sun Hing Bldg., 607 Nathan Rd, Mong Kok, Kowloon
No idea which one he went for a massage with HE for $400.
Yes your are right. Also there are two saunas there:
East Lake Sauna , 10/F, Sun Hing Bldg., 607 Nathan Road, Mong Kok, Kowloon
FAIRY-TALE ISLAND SAUNA, No. 801-804 & 816-820, 8/F, Sun Hing Bldg., 607 Nathan Rd, Mong Kok, Kowloon
No idea which one he went for a massage with HE for $400.As I wrote already, 3rd floor!
The Frenchman
06-14-08, 07:57
Hi All,
Following on from my macau report I try to add some value to the HK board.
I have been luck enough to go to HK about 10 times in the last 5 years.
As usual it takes about 2 visits to get familiarised with the lay of the land and where to go, then you start to understand how things work and have real fun.
I usually stay in mongkok hotels, cheaper and nearer the real shopping areas.
Some tips.
For computers golden shopping mall, probably cheapest on the planet.
Copy software, just across the street upstairs, along with illicit naughty dvds (stocked in the roof panels).
Anyway back to the main event.
Ok thereare some quick fix massage places on the side streets near dundas and argyle streets, good if that is your wish.
There is also the 141 site where you can arrange a girl in a time shared appartment or you can go to the epson building and stroll though the floors.
Sorry fellows this is all too mechanical for me and doesnt cut it.
Me wants the real deal gfe.
So lets go find it.
Solution head to wan chai and look around fenwick street and the cross streets do not go into the nichclubs (identifiable by the screened doors and girls begging you to come in).
Instead go to the disco bars named.
Boracay, neptune 2, fenwick, dreams, ex strawberry (damn alzheimers kicking in again I forgot the name as it changed), also some bars have philly girls hanging around.
The system.
The girls are enticed to make some quick money to come to HK on a 2 week visa, they stay 5 to a room in flats in north point and wan chai areas.
The mamasan controls about 5 girls and send them to prc on a visa run at 2 weeks the girls pay for the flight in and back (indebted) and try to work it off.
The girls get commission on the lady drinks (about 1/2 the price) and of course a service fee from you dear reader How to play the game to win.
I pick up a newbie (look at the passport entry date).
Be kind and dance and buy a few (not too many) drinks.
Offer some nosh at the philly sidewalk cafe (will cost you about 25 hkd).
Then once softened up hop into the taxi to your local hotel.
Treat then softly and get them warmed up and you will have a whale of a time usual fee is 500 hk per nite.
Usually if they are responsive I invite them out for a several day stint and the relationship can become quite intense.
Indeed you will get heir phil cell nr and be able to visit if oyu go there.
Have fun and play safe.
The frenchman
As I wrote already, 3rd floor!Thanks for the floor number. I find other few saunas in the same buliding. Can you tell me which one you went if it is one of the following:
Ginza Women's Sauna
Tel: 2625 5766
Sun Hing Building
Mong Kok
Prince Silver Spring Sauna
Tel: 2332 456
Sun Hing Building
Mong Kok
Silver Spring Sauna
Tel: 2770 2123
Sun Hing Building
Mong Kok
Sun Hing Kok Sauna Steam Bath
Tel: 2332 0185
Sun Hing Building
Mong Kok
Crazy Jim Wood
06-14-08, 14:24
I pick up a newbie (look at the passport entry date).
You just ask to see her passport and she's ok with that?
Be kind and dance and buy a few (not too many) drinks.
Offer some nosh at the philly sidewalk cafe (will cost you about 25 hkd).
The frenchman
Never bought a girl a drink in HK, it's bullshit, they don't appreciate the drinks you buy them , and they dont get angry if you refuse. In fact they probably think you're stupid for buying them drinks. But I am egalitarian: sometimes I don't even buy myself a drink. Why waste money? I go to Fenwicks to pick up a girl, not to drink. I might buy a beer if thirsty, or if I am in high spirits, but I never buy a beer just to have something in my hand or to make the waitress leave me alone. Never bought a girl (or myself) a philly snack either.
I just talk to girls, see what's availalbe, select one, check belly for baby damage, and it's off to the races.
Save your money, don't offer anything at the bar or on the way back home, and put the minibar off limits. The girls just don't care about the snacks and drinks, they'll take them if offered, but they really don't appreciate the gesture. All they care about is the money they get, not the money you spend.
thanks for the floor number. i find other few saunas in the same buliding. can you tell me which one you went if it is one of the following:
ginza women's sauna
tel: 2625 5766
sun hing building
mong kok
prince silver spring sauna
tel: 2332 456
sun hing building
mong kok
silver spring sauna
tel: 2770 2123
sun hing building
mong kok
sun hing kok sauna steam bath
tel: 2332 0185
sun hing building
mong kokhm, don´t know the name.
you go out the elevator, 90 degree left the first double door, dark wood.
have been there again yesterday but was a complete another experience.
the girls name was xingxing or kingking. massage itsself was not so good. happy ending okay. also she was talking a lot and at least her boyfriend called her.
so we had a lot of time left because it was a high speed massage. then she offered me to touch her. she layed down and straddled her legs and i made her happy with some oil and my fingers. she enjoyed it.
chinese girls are the best. they are not corrupted by the church and the feminism. they have a lot of heart.
JackTheLad2
06-14-08, 18:01
Never bought a girl a drink in HK, it's bullshit, they don't appreciate the drinks you buy them , and they dont get angry if you refuse. In fact they probably think you're stupid for buying them drinks.
Save your money, don't offer anything at the bar or on the way back home, and put the minibar off limits. The girls just don't care about the snacks and drinks, they'll take them if offered, but they really don't appreciate the gesture. All they care about is the money they get, not the money you spend.
What absolute crap - its people like you that give mongers a bad name!!
I'm a regular at the Wan Chai bars and have met many girls there. If you read the forums from all over the world - be nice to them, show them a bit of respect and you get paid back in spades. You say the girls "dont appreciate the gesture" - absolute nonsense - what planet have you come from? You say they "dont appreciate the drinks you but them". How do you think they make money? - one way is for you to buy them drinks from which they get their cut. So don't tell me thay don't appreciate it - of course they do.
I'm surprised at you, particularly with the number of posts (341) recorded against you.
Never bought a girl a drink in HK, it's bullshit, they don't appreciate the drinks you buy them , and they dont get angry if you refuse. In fact they probably think you're stupid for buying them drinks. But I am egalitarian: sometimes I don't even buy myself a drink. Why waste money? I go to Fenwicks to pick up a girl, not to drink. I might buy a beer if thirsty, or if I am in high spirits, but I never buy a beer just to have something in my hand or to make the waitress leave me alone. Never bought a girl (or myself) a philly snack either.
I just talk to girls, see what's availalbe, select one, check belly for baby damage, and it's off to the races.
Save your money, don't offer anything at the bar or on the way back home, and put the minibar off limits. The girls just don't care about the snacks and drinks, they'll take them if offered, but they really don't appreciate the gesture. All they care about is the money they get, not the money you spend.You must be a barell of fun to spend time with, but its your money and your time.
However I dont share the same view as you in this matter and all of my Wan Chai pickups have been a great GFE expirience and non want to leave in the morning and I have to push them out and all will give me their CP numbers includuing their PI ones.
To each his own, but it just means that I and people that think like me just have more options at Fenwicks or Neptunes II
Wizard
Crazy Jim Wood
06-15-08, 13:07
I didn't say you should be mean or disrespectful. I just said there's no reason to buy drinks the first time that you meet a girl at Fenwicks. After all, in the 141 you can be nice and respectful without recourse to buying drinks and snacks.
If you hae long term relationships with girls in HK and you take the girl out on a date that is different. But there is no reason to buy a bar girl drinks the first time that you meet her: she'll go home with you for the take-out price whether you buy drinks or not.
I get numbers from the bar girls as well, also have to push them out the door, because, like I said: they really don't care one way or the other about drinks.
Well, I guess they may care a little, but do the math: if half of the drink goe to the bar and the girl gets half, she is only half as happy as if you gave her the same money as a "tip" after a ST in your room.
Depending on how much you spend on drinks for her and her friends, you might be able to get a LT instead of ST for the money you save not buying drinks. She will be twice as happy, and so will you!
I used to buy bar girls drinks, then I experimented and stopped. No change in their attitude. I assume that it is because they get much more money from you during the take-out than from the drinks. I never had a girl refuse take out because of drinks, that's for sure.
I used to feel nervous myself without a drink, then I experimented, no one cared if I had a drink in my hand or not either.
If you like to drink, drink. If you have money to throw around, buy a round for everyone. But it is not required.
Depends on the place.
If you at Bar/clubs in 5 star hotels, it is customary to court the girls at the table with drinks.
At Fenwicks or Neptunes pick up joints, the girls need to hustle drinks for the bar in order to come in and work the customers. But I don't see bars taking down the girl's names or anything, so not sure what the agreement is.
Depends on the place.
If you at Bar/clubs in 5 star hotels, it is customary to court the girls at the table with drinks.
At Fenwicks or Neptunes pick up joints, the girls need to hustle drinks for the bar in order to come in and work the customers. But I don't see bars taking down the girl's names or anything, so not sure what the agreement is.Fenwicks: They get secretly slipped a ticket and receive 40 on a drink for 65 and 80 on a drink for 120 (Thats why they all go for tequila on the rocks).
Fenwicks: They get secretly slipped a ticket and receive 40 on a drink for 65 and 80 on a drink for 120 (Thats why they all go for tequila on the rocks).Tequila Rock and Roll is the double commission drink. They do not mind if you say 'no' to that and 'yes' to just a Tequila.
I do not see the point of paying the double commission unless it is well deserved!
Crazy Jim Wood
06-16-08, 13:18
Fenwicks: They get secretly slipped a ticket and receive 40 on a drink for 65 and 80 on a drink for 120 (Thats why they all go for tequila on the rocks).
Yeah, that sounds right.
I was taking a Cololmbiana out of Fenwicks, once she asked me to buy her a drink, then she asked me to buy her friend a drink, then I said fuck this and never bought another girl a drink there.
The girls all ask for a drink, I say no, and they don't have a problem.
Why buy a girl a drink if you're not going to bar fine her? You're blowing 65-120 for nothing, who cares what she thinks.
If you are going to barfine her, why buy a drink? You're blowing 65-120 since she's coming home with you anyway. Since she only makes a max of 80 on a drink, versus a barfine of say 800, she's not going blow a barfine by getting uppity about a drink. If she keeps asking for a drink, just tell her to fuck off and find another girl.
If you buy yourself, her, and a friend a few rounds, you're already looking at the difference between ST-LT or the cost of a second ST after one ST with the current girl.
To make her happy, if that's your thing, give her a tip for pictures or anal or whatever makes you happier, she keeps it all instead of giving the bar a cut and you get some actual increase in service.
Call me crazy for wanting to maximize my happiness instead of the bar's, and also give her the most out of it as well, by cutting the bar out.
Ralph Kramden
06-16-08, 14:15
I agree with Crazy Jim all the way.
Why give the house your money instead of the girl? If you intend to take a girl out, then just tell her, "I would rather give you the money as a tip instead of the house as a lady-drink". I have done that before and they all agreed and appreciated it.
There is also a gentlemanly way to decline buying a lady-drink........Just say, "Not right now maybe later." It has worked for me many times. And when they come back to pester you again, just give them the same line and they get the message.
And I certainly would not buy a lady-drink for any woman I had no intention of taking out, especially if they continue to pester me.
I think we have a difference of opinion as I like to spend at least an hour or two in those places and prabobly speak with 3 or 4 girls just to get the right vibe and if one of them spends 45 min talking to me then the 50HK$ she makes of the drink is small compersation for her time.
But like I said thats just my view of the world, good luck in yours.
wizard
Sorry to ask this, i tried using the search function to no avail here.(I am new to the forum). I am desperate and if any of you can help me i would really appreciate it. I am heading to HK in a few days and need to get a visa to go to Guanzhou. Anyone know of a agency that can get me a visa same day?
Thank you!
...And I certainly would not buy a lady-drink for any woman I had no intention of taking out...Well, yes and no.
I had a story a couple of years back. There was a girl I would rate the most attractive I have ever seen in Fenwicks (I felt shy to approach her). Just as a coincindence a moment later she was standing next to me and we started talking. I met her again a few days later and she was real fun talking to. Not in HK with an agent, but one of the very few who was smart enough to be there on her own. I must have spent something like 500 on drinks only that night (don't ask me why, I normally never do this), but we somehow clicked. She told me she would not go with customers, since she makes 15 tequila on the rocks a night (net 1200 HK$) on average. I asked her how she refuses customers, she said by charging 3000 ST. Then she encouraged me to come with her to Shenzhen on her visa run. And she ended up being a freebie for several weekends in China and Macau over a year. But it was strictly outside HK, because when in HK she was on business.
I had several Filipines who would appreciate me accompany them to China just for the comfort of having soneone around who is familiar with the place. Unfortunately that is on hold now since they don't get visas anymore.
Will Smith69
06-17-08, 20:58
Hi,
I will be the first tim in HK with a little time for the fun. I hafe read the forum, but I still have no real plan and view on where to stay best, and where to go or look. I would like to stay in a niche hotel, I am not on a budget, and will get some fun in the hotel. And I like to see how the mongering scene wi "working" in HK.
I will have time to check the digfferent options.
Can someon help me with tips?
I realy would be happy abote some help.
Thanks
Will
There are plenty of hotels on the island and you can stay in Wanchai or Central etc.
I prefer to stay in Kowloon or TST and Mody Rd is good as its just on the entrance to the harbour tunel. The Intercontinetal is great if budget is not a high priority. And there is also stocky fingers on Mody Rd if you dont want to go far for your P4P bar fun, the band is not bad and although the talent is slightly older there are some real gems every now and again coming through the place.
Well as for mongering as I am not a sauna, KTV kind of guy I usually start the night off at Lan Kwai Fong, lots of expat bars lining the main drag, about 80% regular girls including tourists and the rest FL that are trying a different location for the evening.
If there is nothing that takes your fancy there then just jump in a cab and head to Wanchai, I like Fenwicks and Neptunes II as my favourite mongering spots, lots of talent mostly Thai and Filipina with a smothering of Sth Americans and Eastern Europeans thrown in. have fun and enjoy the night.
Hope that helps
Wizard
Crazy Jim Wood
06-18-08, 01:36
Here's a tip: RTFF
Hi,
I will be the first tim in HK with a little time for the fun. I hafe read the forum, but I still have no real plan and view on where to stay best, and where to go or look. I would like to stay in a niche hotel, I am not on a budget, and will get some fun in the hotel. And I like to see how the mongering scene wi "working" in HK.
I will have time to check the digfferent options.
Can someon help me with tips?
I realy would be happy abote some help.
Thanks
Will
SE Asia Joe
06-18-08, 04:04
.
Call me crazy for wanting to maximize my happiness instead of the bar's, and also give her the most out of it as well, by cutting the bar out.
Yeah - I can agree with what you're saying.
On the other hand, perhaps you should also consider the fact that the bars do need to make some money....especially from those who do not mind spending a bit or wanting to act a bit like a BSD. We need these guys to keep on doing this - otherwise places like Fenwicks are gonna close down! And where would that put us mongers??
So I would suggest that the we do NOT tell others here to strongly never buy lady drinks. Keep to your own habits - whatever it may be in regards to these lady drinks - but cool it a bit about telling others NOT to buy 'em.
Good idea??
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
06-18-08, 04:09
Sorry to ask this, i tried using the search function to no avail here.(I am new to the forum). I am desperate and if any of you can help me i would really appreciate it. I am heading to HK in a few days and need to get a visa to go to Guanzhou. Anyone know of a agency that can get me a visa same day?
Thank you!
I should just tell you to RTFF - but from your posting, you are really clueless aintcha??
Go to the China - General Info thread, go back 3 or so pages and you'll find all the info you'll need - which is that unless you're pretty damn lucky or a miracle happens, you ain't gonna get a China visa in Hong Kong. You need to apply for it from your home country/country of residence.
SEAJ
Will Smith69
06-18-08, 05:44
Here's a tip: RTFFHi CJW,
Thanks for the tip! I have RTFF, and I am not familiar with the area, so I thourt that someone would give me a hint. But sorry if I ask.
Will
I should just tell you to RTFF - but from your posting, you are really clueless aintcha??
Go to the China - General Info thread, go back 3 or so pages and you'll find all the info you'll need - which is that unless you're pretty damn lucky or a miracle happens, you ain't gonna get a China visa in Hong Kong. You need to apply for it from your home country/country of residence.
SEAJJoe, it's not that bad. And since rules change on a daily basis, in this case RTTF is useless.
I know of an agency who at least a week ago could get a visa the next day for around 800 HK$ (same day impossible). Not sure if they still can. The were also ale to take care of the ticket and hotel reservation, so that this is not needed. But it depends on your passport as well if they can do it. Not available for the 30+ coutries on that infamous list.
If someone PMs me with email address and nationality I will mail you the contact if you still can get the visa (I'll check that first).
SE Asia Joe
06-18-08, 06:21
Joe, it's not that bad. And since rules change on a daily basis, in this case RTTF is useless.
I know of an agency who at least a week ago could get a visa the next day for around 800 HK$ (same day impossible). Not sure if they still can. The were also ale to take care of the ticket and hotel reservation, so that this is not needed. But it depends on your passport as well if they can do it. Not available for the 30+ coutries on that infamous list.
If someone PMs me with email address and nationality I will mail you the contact if you still can get the visa (I'll check that first).
Hey Tig - no if he RTFF the china info thread, he will get to the official PRC website on the matter and be fully informed and updated. He can AND SHOULD do his own checking on his own particulars versus the official web site.
And as far as an agency still being able to get a visa - I don't know about that for those that are NOT residents of Hong KOng.
anyways......
SEAJ
Hey Tig - no if he RTFF the china info thread, he will get to the official PRC website on the matter and be fully informed and updated. He can AND SHOULD do his own checking on his own particulars versus the official web site.
And as far as an agency still being able to get a visa - I don't know about that for those that are NOT residents of Hong KOng.
anyways......
SEAJNo way will they tell him the details I know. Yes, last week they could, not sure about today. Coincidentally a friend met the guy in the China visa office in HK in the same queue. You know better than me that in this part of the world Guanxi goes the longest way.
I have a friend who even managed to get 2 Americans into China for a 2 day business trip without visa.
Thank you for your help... I did check out the china forum and found what i needed. There was some conflicting information between what i read earlier in the forum and what different travel agencies have told me here in the U.S.
Blue Diamone
06-18-08, 16:11
Need information. I have ben trying to acess the 141.com web page but with out seccess. Really appreciate if some brother can help me out here. i am now in HK and have been trying for 2 days but without seccess. I have use both the yahoo and google but still unable to get to the site.
NormanBrightside
06-18-08, 20:16
I'm coming to Hong Kong for the first time in a couple of weeks. I've RTFF but can't seem to find anything information on whether there's any issues bringing girls back to your room. I'm going to be staying in the Eaton and Metropark Wan Chai, so any information on these hotels in particular would be gratefully received.
Cheers
Norman
I'm coming to Hong Kong for the first time in a couple of weeks. I've RTFF but can't seem to find anything information on whether there's any issues bringing girls back to your room. I'm going to be staying in the Eaton and Metropark Wan Chai, so any information on these hotels in particular would be gratefully received.
Cheers
NormanIt seems you are not familiar with the search function. Do a search on the Hong Kong forum with "girl friendly" and you will find the explicit answer.
Go to www.google.com.hk and search for "sex". Its the first choice. By the way, this has beem mentioned before, so searching really saves time.
Have fun!
Need information. I have ben trying to acess the 141.com web page but with out seccess. Really appreciate if some brother can help me out here. i am now in HK and have been trying for 2 days but without seccess. I have use both the yahoo and google but still unable to get to the site.
NormanBrightside
06-19-08, 06:34
Cheers Tiger 888. Not the most helpful BUT you did help me re-look at the search function. I'd been using the default search by threads which brings up every report highlighting the words in red. Used that for 30 minutes originally before posting the request and found nothing. However if if you click search by reports instead it brings up those nearest your search criteria. Found what I was looking for in 5 minutes.
The point of the thread (apart from showing my ignorance....) was to share that according to the reports all Hotels in Kowloon and Wan Chai should be girl friendly.
Cheers
Norman
It seems you are not familiar with the search function. Do a search on the Hong Kong forum with "girl friendly" and you will find the explicit answer.
Cheers Tiger 888. Not the most helpful BUT you did help me re-look at the search function. I'd been using the default search by threads which brings up every report highlighting the words in red. Used that for 30 minutes originally before posting the request and found nothing. However if if you click search by reports instead it brings up those nearest your search criteria. Found what I was looking for in 5 minutes.
The point of the thread (apart from showing my ignorance....) was to share that according to the reports all Hotels in Kowloon and Wan Chai should be girl friendly.
Cheers
NormanYou feed someone for a day by giving him fish, you feed him for a lifetime by showing him how to fish. I am glad it worked for you.
Go to www.google.com.hk and search for "sex". Its the first choice. By the way, this has beem mentioned before, so searching really saves time.
Have fun!I believe that all old posts that mention the side look like this www.******.com, so in this very case searching is not so useful. Google in most cases does miracles. Important: In order to get it as the first result you have to go to the above mentioned HK google site.
US navy ships are docking in HK for a little R&R this weekend. Thousands of guys on leave according to SCMP.
Maybe not a good time to be in Wanch.
QH
Blue Diamone
06-20-08, 14:37
Thank RAMM HK
Manage to get to both the web sit. I am now in NT, will try to find something here. If I score I will wirte a review.
I will be arriving in HK this sunday night and have been to 37D, KPressure, and 8MK before, but would like to check out new places this time. If anyone wants to join up for some mongering please PM me.
Thanks
US navy ships are docking in HK for a little R&R this weekend. Thousands of guys on leave according to SCMP.
Maybe not a good time to be in Wanch.
QH
Absolutely correct. Last night was a complete waste of time with the better gals at Fenwicks wanting HK$3000 for ST.
Fast Eddie 48
06-21-08, 07:06
[QUOTE=Sudsoz]Absolutely correct. Last night was a complete waste of time with the better gals at Fenwicks wanting HK$3000 for ST.[/QUOTE
Sudso
They are crazy 3000 hkd for ST Go to China You can get an orgy with virgin for that price ,They must be high on drugs Just offer them pesos instead of HKD .
Fast eddie 48
Member #4378
06-22-08, 02:05
I'm coming to Hong Kong for the first time in a couple of weeks. I've RTFF but can't seem to find anything information on whether there's any issues bringing girls back to your room. I'm going to be staying in the Eaton and Metropark Wan Chai, so any information on these hotels in particular would be gratefully received.
Cheers
Norman
Metropark WanChai is GF - I have stayed there several times. You will find that the folder in the room explicitly writes that no guests are allowed after 11(?)pm, but dont let that fool you. You can try to book directly through hotel's website and you can find some very good deals. Internet will cost you extra (120 a day). They provide VERY short cable, so bring your own cable OR ask the hotel manager to borrow a wireless router. I digress. Let me know if you need more info.
Rick Hunter
06-22-08, 03:28
While I agree HKD 3,000 is crazy for a short time it is a question of both supply and demand and that a lot of the girls do not like going with folks from the Navy. Supply and demand is quite bad right now, lots of flippers are not coming, as we have already observed because of the Chinese Visa issues and with the Navy in town there are tons of guys.
Just more confirmation on the decrease in working girls - from today's newspaper:
Olympic visa curbs put visitors off the game
Nick Gentle
Updated on Jun 22, 2008
The mainland's pre-Olympics visa crackdown is even hurting the world's oldest profession.
Beijing's new rules have led to a sharp drop in the number of freelance prostitutes operating in Wan Chai, sources said.
The women, mostly Filipinos who ply their trade illegally while on 14-day tourist visas, have been forced to journey to Macau to renew their stay. Previously they would simply go to Shenzhen and back for visa renewals.
The increased cost of the trip and closer scrutiny by immigration authorities upon return has reportedly made staying on less attractive.
"You know, with the Olympics and the visa-restriction stuff, most of the girls would prefer to go to Singapore," where they can stay for 30 days visa-free, one bar owner said. "It's just become too hard for them."
A doorman at another bar that is frequented by freelancers said their numbers had dropped since the new measures came into force.
"We check their passports before we let them in, and there are less of them," he said. "But I think it is only temporary - for the Olympics. Instead, we are seeing more Vietnamese and, recently, Ugandans."
Vietnamese must apply for a visa before they enter, while Ugandans receive a 30-day visa free on arrival.
One freelancer, "Vivian", confirmed that it was becoming increasingly difficult to go back and forth between Hong Kong and Macau.
"The immigration guys know what is going on, so they are making it harder for us," she said. Several of her colleagues had left the city as a result.
The Immigration Department denied there was any deliberate targeting of Filipinos. "When people come into Hong Kong we only concentrate on the purpose of their visit, not their nationalities," a spokesman said.
"Working as a prostitute while on a tourist visa is a breach of stay and is punishable by a fine of HK$50,000 and two years in prison."
Noel Smyth, chairman of the Wan Chai Alliance, a business group aimed at promoting and revitalising the district, welcomed any reduction in the number of prostitutes working illegally in the area.
"The last thing we want to do is harm anyone's business," Mr Smyth said.
"But there has been a bit of a problem with some of these girls with the drugging and robbing of people ... Wan Chai is Suzie Wong. We don't want to take the fun out of the place, but we do want to clean it up."
Mark Cholewka, operations manager for Igor's Group, which runs a number of bars in the area, said: "People don't generally talk in open conversation about the number of freelancers around. But I'm happy to hear that numbers are decreasing."
Mimi, a manager at one of Wan Chai's "red-velvet curtain" hostess bars, said the new regulations had not affected her business. "It doesn't concern us, because all our girls have working visas," she said.
Nasty Nate 87
06-22-08, 10:24
Hi Everyone,
I'm 21 and I'm in HK for a summer internship. I'll be staying until August. I don't really have any friends here, and not very many ways of meeting people my age. Everyone at my internship is old, and I'm not a big drinker, so the bars aren't exactly my thing. But, I do love women, dating, sex, just conversation, I like it all.
I hadan interesting thing happen to me the other day. I went to 37 Dundas for the first time. I had a pretty good session. And after we finished, we talked for a while. The girl said that she was 25. She said that most girls don't like doing things with guys that are younger than them. They say that it's kinda embarrassing, or awkward. She said it kinda bothered her, but because it was my first time at Dundas she didn't want to disappoint me. She suggested that I either try to just date someone, or if I really want to go to 37D a lot, just as for girls younger than myself.
Maybe she was just saying this to make me feel like she was special and get me to keep coming back for her, or something like that. But, I get the feeling that what she said was right. I don't know how many people my age, local or foreign, go to these types of places. But for the most part, I see younger people like me just dating regular girls. And from what I get, the patrons of 37D and places like it, are more of the older businessmen type people. But I'm not really sure, cuz I'm definatly a newbie to all of this.
So what do you guys think? Was she right? No was it BS? And what should I do? Not worry about what she said? Try to ask Yellow Sign places for girls younger than me? Should I try to meet regular girls and just try to get a normal girlfriend? Is that possible or worth it in the time frame of my stay? O and is anyone else on here in their early 20s? (just curious)
Thanks Everyone,
Nate
Hi all,
I´ll be in Hong Kong in the Harbour Plaza Hotel next week.
Could anybody advise where to go to find some cheap good girls for BBBJ GFE?
Thanks to all for your support in advance.
Tom
Depends on the place.
If you at Bar/clubs in 5 star hotels, it is customary to court the girls at the table with drinks.
At Fenwicks or Neptunes pick up joints, the girls need to hustle drinks for the bar in order to come in and work the customers. But I don't see bars taking down the girl's names or anything, so not sure what the agreement is.
All of the main FL bars give the girls tickets for lady drinks and they are paid a portion of the drink price. Some girls, particularly new ones, try to make this their main source of income. Eventually they conclude that it is not sufficient.
Johnny Rocket
06-23-08, 15:24
From the SCMP article by Nick Gentle:
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Noel Smyth, chairman of the Wan Chai Alliance, a business group aimed at promoting and revitalising the district, welcomed any reduction in the number of prostitutes working illegally in the area.
"The last thing we want to do is harm anyone's business," Mr Smyth said.
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Oh yeah Mr. Smyth? Well you're hurting our business, which is conveniently finding girls for sex. Get stuffed, fuck off, and please pull your lower lip over your head and swallow. There's nothing wrong with Wan Chai as is, ya busybody gweilo. And I say that as a gweilo, but one who knows how to live and let live.
NormanBrightside
06-23-08, 20:20
Dimension. Appreciate the information.
Thanks
Norman
Metropark WanChai is GF - I have stayed there several times. You will find that the folder in the room explicitly writes that no guests are allowed after 11(?)pm, but dont let that fool you. You can try to book directly through hotel's website and you can find some very good deals. Internet will cost you extra (120 a day). They provide VERY short cable, so bring your own cable OR ask the hotel manager to borrow a wireless router. I digress. Let me know if you need more info.
Metropark WanChai is GF - I have stayed there several times. You will find that the folder in the room explicitly writes that no guests are allowed after 11(?)pm, but dont let that fool you. You can try to book directly through hotel's website and you can find some very good deals. Internet will cost you extra (120 a day). They provide VERY short cable, so bring your own cable OR ask the hotel manager to borrow a wireless router. I digress. Let me know if you need more info.If you dig intot the recent history of the hotel, you will find some interesting info. Remember SARS, the flu like symptoms that kill quite a few people about six years ago, well I believe that the Metropark was one of the ground zero hotels. The other hotels I think in the area was Luk Kwok Hotel and the Metropole. Granted, they are nice but knowing the history about the ground zero hotels, I will pass and think about other accomodations. Check it out you will find some info on it. I think the Metropole has changed its name to fool future residents. They never found an antidote to the flu. They claimed to have sanitized those places, but I will take my chances elsewhere.
I have stayed at the Luk Kwok before the epidemic and it is a nice place.
J
Hello to all people
i ask information about Lan Kwai Fong?
Thanks in advance
bye
xmen6900
I would like know good topless bar in HK. I am not looking for the place to finally pick the gal. Just to go with a client to have drinks and watch the gals. Would like to know such a place with reasonable price for the drinks. I know the drinks will be costly in such a place compared to normal bar.
Jimmy Boy 99
06-24-08, 05:33
Went to the Fuji Building (381-383 Lockhart Road near Marsh Street) at about 10:30PM, trying to get there before the place closed (a post seemed to indicate that the place shut down at 11PM. Is this true?). Took the elevator to the top floor. All busy except for one. Rang the bell. A girl in a bikini opens the door and asks "Am I OK? 450 HKD). She was not bad but had a three-inch scar with the stitches still in it on the front of her thigh. I did not want to deal with that so I pretended I didn't understand her and left. Went down to the 19th floor. All busy except for 19-A1. Rang the bell. Pretty, friendly girl in blue-jean short-shorts, nice smile, opened the door. 500 HK$. No English. I motioned actions for fuck and suck. She smiled and nodded. Didn't want top haggle over HK$ 50 so I nodded OK. She gave me a shower, then she took a bath. Nice tits, not much of an ass, but OK.
She motioned me to lay down, did nippple suck for a few minutes, then started BJ (covered at my request. Looked like she was going to BBBJ until I motioned for the cap). Nice CBJ for 5 or so mintes, then CG, missionary, doggie, then finished with a HJ while massaging her pussy and sucking her tits. Shower, get dresssed, give her the money, a peck on the lips, and out the door. Nice session with a nice girl. As I got on the elevator an Asian guy rang her bell. Gave him a thumbs-up for the girl.
Got to Neptune II about 11:45PM. About 50 girls, mostly 6s, a handful of 7s, and 3-4 8s. A lot more older women than I had expected. As I had just finished at 19-A1, I was not really on the prowl so I just looked around. Got accosted by a few ladies, smiled at by others, but didn't follow-through with any of them. About 2 hours later, I'm getting sleepy and semi in the mood for another round. One of the 8s, a Thai girl with blond hair, had been smiling and flirting with me for a while so I call her over and tell her I like her and would she like to go to my hotel with me. She asked "How much you pay me?" I said how much do you want? She said ST 1,000HK$. I told her that I thought that much was for LT and that ST was 500HK$. She said no. Since I was tired and not that horny, I let her go and left.
My question is, is there a standard rate for LT and ST at Neptune II, and if so, what is it? Or does each girl set her own rate?
Something that I don't understand is that the girl in question was not approached by a single customer in the 2 hours I was in the bar. Further, most of the other 8s were also not approached by anyone during those 2 hours. Are guys reluctant to approach them because of being perceived as too expensive?
Johnny Rocket
06-24-08, 15:48
Xmen, there's not much about Lan Kwai Fong in here, because LKF is not a place for mongering. It's a place for drinking a lot and acting like a fool, and unsuccessfully flirting with the snobby bitches who go clubbing there.
Johnny Rocket
06-24-08, 15:57
Guys, what's your success rate for freebies at these places on Sunday afternoons? Or is it mostly paying a typical $800/ST kind of thing?
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket
The Wanderer
06-24-08, 16:27
Xmen, there's not much about Lan Kwai Fong in here, because LKF is not a place for mongering. It's a place for drinking a lot and acting like a fool, and unsuccessfully flirting with the snobby bitches who go clubbing there.
Unless you try Bar George, seem to be flippers there most nights
Hi All,
Sorry for posting off topic, but there is no "living in HK" thread.
I posted this in the Bangkok forum, but thought it may be better in the HK section.
Expats working in Asia, particularly Thailand, I believe, often keep their meney in a bank account with HSBC or such in HK or Singapore.
And it seems there are quite a few people do stock trading from Thailand.
Who would be a good firm to have a brokerage account with? specifically if I want to trade US options such as covered calls online from Thailand? I can use US Fidelity from Bangkok, but will have to remit money back into the US.
From their website, HSBC HK has an investment account, but it looks mainly for trading stocks only. In the US, I can open an account with Fidelity.
If I work in Thailand and get paid there and park my money in HK or Sing, I would like to buy US stock and try to sell some covered calls. (US stocks because I am familiar with Microsoft and Yahoo and such, but nothing to limit me to the US market, just I don't know anything about Europe or HK or China or Thailand...)
Thanks
fly
PS. I found interactivebrokers.com, will take a look to see what they offer. Would appreciate comments if anyone has experience with them.
Rick Hunter
06-25-08, 06:48
Usually it is pretty easy to pick up and usually it is for free. Although sometimes I slip the girl $300-$500 or she requests a little bit of money.
edit - just want to add remember these girls make $3,500 a month from there job as a maid so even an extra $300 is equal to almost 10% of their monthly wages.
Guys, what's your success rate for freebies at these places on Sunday afternoons? Or is it mostly paying a typical $800/ST kind of thing?
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket
SE Asia Joe
06-25-08, 07:29
Hi All,
Sorry for posting off topic, but there is no "living in HK" thread.
I posted this in the Bangkok forum, but thought it may be better in the HK section.
Expats working in Asia, particularly Thailand, I believe, often keep their meney in a bank account with HSBC or such in HK or Singapore.
And it seems there are quite a few people do stock trading from Thailand.
Who would be a good firm to have a brokerage account with? specifically if I want to trade US options such as covered calls online from Thailand? I can use US Fidelity from Bangkok, but will have to remit money back into the US.
From their website, HSBC HK has an investment account, but it looks mainly for trading stocks only. In the US, I can open an account with Fidelity.
If I work in Thailand and get paid there and park my money in HK or Sing, I would like to buy US stock and try to sell some covered calls. (US stocks because I am familiar with Microsoft and Yahoo and such, but nothing to limit me to the US market, just I don't know anything about Europe or HK or China or Thailand...)
Thanks
fly
PS. I found interactivebrokers.com, will take a look to see what they offer. Would appreciate comments if anyone has experience with them.
Just about all the major US - and International brokerage houses/investment banking firms are in Hong Kong - Goldman, Merril, Morgan Stanley, Fortiss, Deutsche Bank, UBS, Credit Suise, Lehman, Royal Bank of Canada, Schwabb etc etc.
Depending on the size of your account, they'd all open an account for you to trade either by phone or on the internet.
SEAJ
Hi all,
I am coming Hong Kong soon. I am staying at the panda hotel and metropark at Causeway Bay.
Could you give me some info on where to go and what is the going rate. and info that could help me when i go for action.
thank you
Qwerty On88
06-25-08, 12:35
Regret those days are gone, all thats left are a few " clip " joints that will try sting you for HK$ 2000 for a few beers and then argue down to whatever they can get out of you. As they have no other clients they don't care how long it takes. You may have somewhere to go though!
Qwerty On88
06-25-08, 12:40
Most of the bars will go topless if you spend enough, but then you end up with a titless freak like this!
Guys, what's your success rate for freebies at these places on Sunday afternoons? Or is it mostly paying a typical $800/ST kind of thing?
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny RocketI agree with Rick Hunter and his comments, but I would go to Laguna on Sunday afternoons rather than Fewicks or Makati.
I would like know good topless bar in HK. I am not looking for the place to finally pick the gal. Just to go with a client to have drinks and watch the gals. Would like to know such a place with reasonable price for the drinks. I know the drinks will be costly in such a place compared to normal bar.There are a whole bunch of girlie bars on Lockhart Rd. in Wan Chai, but beware, as they are expert at running drink scams. Same with the few "topless" clubs in TST. Other than those bars, the entertainment options in HK are more Asian than Western. If you want to entertain a client with drinks and girls, I would recommend one of the KTV clubs in E. TST.
Member #4378
06-26-08, 02:29
My question is, is there a standard rate for LT and ST at Neptune II, and if so, what is it? Or does each girl set her own rate?
Something that I don't understand is that the girl in question was not approached by a single customer in the 2 hours I was in the bar. Further, most of the other 8s were also not approached by anyone during those 2 hours. Are guys reluctant to approach them because of being perceived as too expensive?Some girls are not very practical:) and dont go below a certain amount. Once, I have tried to negotiate with a Russian girl in Fenwick at 5:30am. After lowering her price to 1000 (which I found usual for Russians even after 4-5am), I tried to lower ST price to 900. We talked 10-15 minutes about ST prices around the world and economy, but she just refused to go for 900. I watched her to walk to her hotel (near Fenwick). By the way, it wasnt a matter of 100HKD, my goal was to lower her price below 1000HKD. I told her that she is being un-practical. She gave me some silly reason like if she lowers her price little bit everyday, then she will be asking 500 HKD soon like some others. Anyway, I think that some girls consider themselves higher than others and set lower threshold for themselves.
There are a whole bunch of girlie bars on Lockhart Rd. in Wan Chai, but beware, as they are expert at running drink scams. Same with the few "topless" clubs in TST. Other than those bars, the entertainment options in HK are more Asian than Western. If you want to entertain a client with drinks and girls, I would recommend one of the KTV clubs in E. TST.Thanks for the info. Could you please any particular KTV in East TST where two guys can go and speak no Cantonese or Putungua.
Wine Guy 247
06-26-08, 13:40
Hi All,
Sorry for posting off topic, but there is no "living in HK" thread.
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PS. I found interactivebrokers.com, will take a look to see what they offer. Would appreciate comments if anyone has experience with them.I use interactive brokers out of HK and find it is pretty good. It isn't meant for the beginner but it doesn't sound like you are. More reasonable price than HSBC in my opinion.
MJ
Wine Guy 247
06-26-08, 13:50
I would like to hear if anyone has had a useful experience at any of the girlie bars in Wan Chai. Ever one to take up a challenge, one Friday afternoon I thought I would try and find out the cheapest I could get some. I ended up paying for a beer and 500 for a quick BJ at the back of the bar (don't recall which place, aren't the all the same? ) This was after much annoying negotiation and arm tugging. Some of the women are beautiful so maybe the exorbitant bar fine makes sense to some or maybe you have access to a better expense account than I do. I just think with all the other options this should be last on the list.
MJ
Brown Rail
06-26-08, 15:32
Went to the Fuji Building (381-383 Lockhart Road near Marsh Street) at about 10: 30PM, trying to get there before the place closed (a post seemed to indicate that the place shut down at 11PM. Is this true? ). Took the elevator to the top floor. All busy except for one. Rang the bell. A girl in a bikini opens the door and asks "Am I OK? 450 HKD). She was not bad but had a three-inch scar with the stitches still in it on the front of her thigh. I did not want to deal with that so I pretended I didn't understand her and left. Went down to the 19th floor. All busy except for 19-A1. Rang the bell. Pretty, friendly girl in blue-jean short-shorts, nice smile, opened the door. 500 HK$. No English. I motioned actions for fuck and suck. She smiled and nodded. Didn't want top haggle over HK$ 50 so I nodded OK. She gave me a shower, then she took a bath. Nice tits, not much of an ass, but OK.
She motioned me to lay down, did nippple suck for a few minutes, then started BJ (covered at my request. Looked like she was going to BBBJ until I motioned for the cap). Nice CBJ for 5 or so mintes, then CG, missionary, doggie, then finished with a HJ while massaging her pussy and sucking her tits. Shower, get dresssed, give her the money, a peck on the lips, and out the door. Nice session with a nice girl. As I got on the elevator an Asian guy rang her bell. Gave him a thumbs-up for the girl.
Got to Neptune II about 11:45PM. About 50 girls, mostly 6s, a handful of 7s, and 3-4 8s. A lot more older women than I had expected. As I had just finished at 19-A1, I was not really on the prowl so I just looked around. Got accosted by a few ladies, smiled at by others, but didn't follow-through with any of them. About 2 hours later, I'm getting sleepy and semi in the mood for another round. One of the 8s, a Thai girl with blond hair, had been smiling and flirting with me for a while so I call her over and tell her I like her and would she like to go to my hotel with me. She asked "How much you pay me? " I said how much do you want? She said ST 1, 000HK$. I told her that I thought that much was for LT and that ST was 500HK$. She said no. Since I was tired and not that horny, I let her go and left.
My question is, is there a standard rate for LT and ST at Neptune II, and if so, what is it? Or does each girl set her own rate?
Something that I don't understand is that the girl in question was not approached by a single customer in the 2 hours I was in the bar. Further, most of the other 8s were also not approached by anyone during those 2 hours. Are guys reluctant to approach them because of being perceived as too expensive? Prices is a difficult topic. Having lived in HK a while here is my take on it.
Most girls want to get HK$1, 500 for all night (long time, usually in your hotel). Some will ask for up to HK$2, 500 but few will refuse HK$1, 500. As it gets later, if they like you, if it is slow, if they are less than prime, they will accept $1, 000.
Some girls look for short time, usually in a short time hotel on Lockhart Road (note their rates also change depending on time of day ranging from about HK$100-300 for 1-3 hours). Most girls really want HK$1, 000. If you offer this and stick to it you will probably get it, and they will be happy after (ask for your phone number, look for you next time, etc.) If it is really slow, she is not prime, it is morning or they think you are local, they might accept HK$500, but they are not likely to be happy (won’t give you phone, or won’t answer when you call).
You can see beautiful, especially Thai, girls who seem to be there all night alone, and paying for their own drinks (note that the bar charges the girls much less for drinks when they buy their own than they do guys even for their own drinks. If a girl buys her own drink it costs I think HK$20/beer). If you go several nights in a row you might notice the same girl drinking the same drink, chatting with her friends, and never with a guy. For some girls it just works, for some it does not. Some also seem to have their pride and would rather go broke than negotiate.
I struck up a conversation with one of these Thai girls. Tall, beautiful face, hair, breasts. Yummy. She said she did not know why guys did not seem to like her. Eventually I left. The next day I saw her and her friends in Bridge. We chatted for a while and at the 10am closing she asked if I wanted to go with her friends to play pool, which I agreed. We went to Joe’s and spend the morning playing. Everyone paid his own way and it was a blast. At the end I walked them to their boarding house, but made no move. I saw her again a few nights later, still alone in Neptune. I asked her to join me at Dusk till Dawn, and we had a great time. After I told her that I really wanted to make love, but that I did not like turning our relationship commercial. She said it was not important. I could have either played dumb and tried not paying her, gone short time and offered her something after or warned her upfront what I would pay. We all know these girls are there for work, so not paying something is pretty dishonest. I told her I would give her $1, 000, as an exception. She said it was totally up to me. So off we went. We spent the night, at the end I gave her $1, 000 and I think that was the first really money she had made. I have to say she was really, really great in bed. In the next weeks I showed her other bars (Laguna in the afternoon, Fenwick – which I hate, LKF and more). We would occasionally meet and if we fucked I would slip her $1, 000. Then the games began. I would leave her to work in Neptune so she can make some money, then she would get hurt that I was not attentive to her. So I guess I became her easiest and most reliable money. Next she had to leave HK because they would not extend her visa, and she could not afford to pay her boarding house. I gave her an extra $1, 000. Then, surprise, she got her visa extended. Then she had to go and did not have money for the flight. Then she really, really needed a bit more as she had not made any money in HK and would have to pay her rent back in BKK. Then when she got home her dad was sick, and she needed more. So in the end, and I have now stopped communicating with her, the price was $1, 000 but soon I felt that I had adopted her and was slipping additional amounts and increasing my average cost. Hell, I did not want a girl friend.
What is the moral of the story? Dammed if I know. I have seen some girls so good at pulling drinks that they can do 20 in a night (of those ridiculous tequila rock and rolls at Fenwick – never mind sweetie, here is my ATM card), and that is all they do. No fucking. I have seen beautiful girls go night after night and get nowhere (as far as I can see) and go home broke. (And I have seen some of those come back to HK a few months later.) Because I live here I am not in a hurry or in need of scoring on any given night, so if there is someone l want I usually offer HK$500, and take it and keep coming back. There are even some who don’t ask for money and really mean it. Note that Filipinas come with 14 day visas and then try to extend by going to Shenzhen or Macao, hoping to get another 14 days when they return. It is more difficult lately with China refusing border visas and the HK authorities giving regular 14 day entries less often. The Thai girls get a month, and then do the same. (Most Indonesian girls seem to be domestic helpers out for some extra cash or looking for boy friend, mostly Laguna or Makati Saturday and Sunday) This cycle drives the new faces and also the economics as when they get close to visa expiry they are more flexible.
Bottom Line:
$1, 000-$1, 500 over night
$500-$1, 000 short time
Be careful about paying so little that she is mad, she will not be a great fuck. (and if you are not sure, if she does not give you her phone after, she thinks you are cheap Charlie and is mad, but she needed something)
If you are local or she thinks you will be regular, you can pay less and she will still be happy.
Don’t get tricked into becoming her boyfriend, unless of course that is what you want. It will increase your average cost.
Forget Russians, Colombians, Africans. They are exotics here and know it. Filipinas for true love, Thais for awesome sex and Indonesians for, well, both. But I digress.
PS this applies to Neptune, Makati, Laguna, Fenwick, Amazonia. Dreams and Galaxy seem to be a bit less. Joe Bananas, Dusk till dawn are more unpredictable.
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Brown Rail
06-26-08, 16:02
Prices is a difficult topic. Having lived in HK a while here is my take on it.
Most girls want to get HK$1, 500 for all night (long time, usually in your hotel). Some will ask for up to HK$2, 500 but few will refuse HK$1, 500. As it gets later, if they like you, if it is slow, if they are less than prime, they will accept $1, 000.
Some girls look for short time, usually in a short time hotel on Lockhart Road (note their rates also change depending on time of day ranging from about HK$100-300 for 2-3 hours). Most girls really want HK$1, 000. If you offer this and stick to it you will probably get it, and they will be happy after (ask for your phone number, look for you next time, etc.) If it is really slow, she is not prime, it is morning or they think you are local, they might accept HK$500, but they are not likely to be happy (won’t give you phone, or won’t answer when you call).
You can see beautiful, especially Thai, girls who seem to be there all night alone, and paying for their own drinks (note that the bar charges the girls much less for drinks when they buy their own than they do guys even for their own drinks. If a girl buys her own drink it costs I think HK$20/beer). If you go several nights in a row you might notice the same girl drinking the same drink, chatting with her friends, and never with a guy. For some girls it just works, for some it does not. Some also seem to have their pride and would rather go broke than negotiate.
I struck up a conversation with one of these Thai girls. Tall, beautiful face, hair, breasts. Yummy. She said she did not know why guys did not seem to like her. Eventually I left. The next day I saw her and her friends in Bridge. We chatted for a while and at the 10am closing she asked if I wanted to go with her friends to play pool, which I agreed. We went to Joe’s and spend the morning playing. Everyone paid his own way and it was a blast. At the end I walked them to their boarding house, but made no move. I saw her again a few nights later, still alone in Neptune. I asked her to join me at Dusk till Dawn, and we had a great time. After I told her that I really wanted to make love, but that I did not like turning our relationship commercial. She said it was not important. I could have either played dumb and tried not paying her, gone short time and offered her something after or warned her upfront what I would pay. We all know these girls are there for work, so not paying something is pretty dishonest. I told her I would give her $1, 000, as an exception. She said it was totally up to me. So off we went. We spent the night, at the end I gave her $1, 000 and I think that was the first really money she had made. I have to say she was really, really great in bed. In the next weeks I showed her other bars (Laguna in the afternoon, Fenwick – which I hate, LKF and more). We would occasionally meet and if we fucked I would slip her $1, 000. Then the games began. I would leave her to work in Neptune so she can make some money, then she would get hurt that I was not attentive to her. So I guess I became her easiest and most reliable money. Next she had to leave HK because they would not extend her visa, and she could not afford to pay her boarding house. I gave her an extra $1, 000. Then, surprise, she got her visa extended. Then she had to go and did not have money for the flight. Then she really, really needed a bit more as she had not made any money in HK and would have to pay her rent back in BKK. Then when she got home her dad was sick, and she needed more. So in the end, and I have now stopped communicating with her, the price was $1, 000 but soon I felt that I had adopted her and was slipping additional amounts and increasing my average cost. Hell, I did not want a girl friend.
What is the moral of the story? Dammed if I know. I have seen some girls so good that they can sell 20 drinks in a night (of those ridiculous tequila rock and rolls at Fenwick – never mind sweetie, here is my ATM card), and that is all they do; no fucking. I have seen beautiful girls go night after night and get nowhere (as far as I can see) and go home broke. (And seen some of those come back to HK a few months later.) Because I live here I am not in a hurry or in need of scoring on any given night, so if there is someone l want I usually offer HK$500, and take it or leave it. There are even some who don’t ask for money and really mean it.
Note that Filipinas come with 14 day visas and then try to extend by going to Shenzhen or Macao, hoping to get another 14 days when they return. It is more difficult lately with China refusing border visas and the HK authorities giving regular 14 day entries less often. The Thai girls get a month, and then do the same. (Most Indonesian girls seem to be domestic helpers out for some extra cash or looking for boy friend, mostly Laguna or Makati Saturday and Sunday) This cycle drives the new faces and also the economics as when they get close to visa expiry they are more flexible.
Bottom Line: $1, 000-$1, 500 over night $500-$1, 000 short time
Be careful about paying so little that she is mad, she will not be a great fuck. (and if you are not sure, if she does not give you her phone after, she thinks you are cheap Charlie and is mad, but she needed something) If you are local or she thinks you will be regular, you can pay less and she will still be happy.
Don’t get tricked into becoming her boyfriend, unless of course that is what you want. It will increase your average cost.
Forget Russians, Colombians, Africans. They are exotics here and know it. Filipinas for true love, Thais for awesome sex and Indonesians for, well, both. On the other hand, if you all offerd $500 the girls would start accepting it more often, and save me a fortune. But I digress.
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You can see beautiful, especially Thai, girls who seem to be there all night alone, and paying for their own drinks (note that the bar charges the girls much less for drinks when they buy their own than they do guys even for their own drinks. If a girl buys her own drink it costs I think HK$20/beer). If you go several nights in a row you might notice the same girl drinking the same drink, chatting with her friends, and never with a guy. For some girls it just works, for some it does not. Some also seem to have their pride and would rather go broke than negotiate.
me a fortune. But I digress.
The extremely attractive girls you see not talking to guys and buying their own drinks are most likely just hanging out and having a good time. They probably have 1 or 2 regular guys (usually married) who pay them a stipend so they are just fine financially. They obviously can't see the married guys at night so they just hang out with their friends. They will off course go with other guys but money won't be the motivating factor.
Brown Rail
06-27-08, 04:18
The extremely attractive girls you see not talking to guys and buying their own drinks are most likely just hanging out and having a good time. They probably have 1 or 2 regular guys (usually married) who pay them a stipend so they are just fine financially. They obviously can't see the married guys at night so they just hang out with their friends. They will off course go with other guys but money won't be the motivating factor.From my experiance this happens, but it is rare. And you can spot the girls who are "already committed" quickly, they will be dancing a lot with other girls and not with guys, and when guys approach them they usually don't flirt. (I say usually because sometimes these girls still sell drinks) If you hang out with a group of Thais or Pinays for a bit they will tell you what each of the other's is up to.
Brown Rail
06-27-08, 06:00
Well, yes and no.
I had a story a couple of years back. There was a girl I would rate the most attractive I have ever seen in Fenwicks (I felt shy to approach her). Just as a coincindence a moment later she was standing next to me and we started talking. I met her again a few days later and she was real fun talking to. Not in HK with an agent, but one of the very few who was smart enough to be there on her own. I must have spent something like 500 on drinks only that night (don't ask me why, I normally never do this), but we somehow clicked. She told me she would not go with customers, since she makes 15 tequila on the rocks a night (net 1200 HK$) on average. I asked her how she refuses customers, she said by charging 3000 ST. Then she encouraged me to come with her to Shenzhen on her visa run. And she ended up being a freebie for several weekends in China and Macau over a year. But it was strictly outside HK, because when in HK she was on business.
I had several Filipines who would appreciate me accompany them to China just for the comfort of having soneone around who is familiar with the place. Unfortunately that is on hold now since they don't get visas anymore. When I started seeing posts about $3, 000, my first reaction was that she must not like you. But when I got to your post it all made sense. I too have met a few girls who make a living on drinks, but it is a rare talent. Occasionally you meet someone who can pull 15-20 drinks in a night. But most girls are too shy or not subtle enough and just consider drink commissions consolation money while they are looking for a "customer" for long or short time. This girl clearly had a good head for business. She likes sex with guys she likes, like you, and for the others she sets a super high price. That keeps the punters at bay, and if someone is crazy, horny or rich enough to pay, well it is worth the compromise. I like her already.
As for buying girls drinks, I understand the argument that the bar has to sell drinks to survive, but let some other punter be the one to support the bar. There are plenty of sailors and business men passing through, I would rather not do it with my own money. If I chat with a girl for a while, maybe dance, I think I should give her something for her time. I know why she is there and what her life is probably like. I will usually buy her a drink (supporting the bar too) or slip her HK$50 if I just want to toss her back. If I am with someone for the night of course then I buy as well, but probably not "lady’s drinks" (Margareta, Kailua and milk, or, God forbid tequila-rock-and-roll). With the "lady’s drink the girls get a commission. If you watch carefully, after they are served the waitress will come back and discretely slip the girl a ticket, which she can later trade for some money. I think it is HK$20, but not sure. This whole commission thing is supposed to be between the bar and the girls, secret from the guys. If you get involved in it the bar people will get surly. A few weeks ago I was with a girl who was new. After the drink we wanted to go to another bar, but I had not seen the waitress slip her the chit. I asked and my girl did not understand the system. I suggested she ask the waitress in Tagalog how it worked, but the waitress did not come back. Finally I just asked one of the waiters to get her the ticket. The guy got angry and started talking very sternly to the girl. Then he waived to the waitress who brought a HK$20 and gave to the girl, but everyone seemed mad at me, and at the girl. So it is best to pretend that you don’t know what is going on.
Usual drink prices (standard drink or beer) are about:
• Your drink: HK$ 40
• Her drink (lady’s drink): HK$60
• Her drink (not lady’s drink): HK$40
• Her drink (she buys own): HK$20
Happy hour drinks are about half. It has happened quite a few times that when I am with a girl several times, and she likes me, she will start saying that she will buy her own drinks, I should save my money. The underlying message is that as a GF I am already taking care of her and we should be more careful with "our" money. LOL
As for tequila-rock-and-roll at Fenwick, it just pisses me off. It costs twice a usual lady’s drink, basically it is a way to supercharge the movement of funds from your bank account to the girl and bar. None of the Lady’s drinks have much alcohol – could you drink 15 real drinks in a night and still work? With tequila-rock-and-roll they get one glass of [imitation] fruit juice and a separate shot of tequila. It is really one real drink in two glasses.
You might as well hand over your ATM card, or wear a name tag that says sucker. If I offer a girl a drink and she orders a beer or other non-lady’s drink I think, hum, girl friend experience. (Maybe this is not fair as they do have to earn a living. And girls who do this tend to be the Thais who are more confident in ultimately pulling a customer.) When the girl orders a "lady’s drink" I think, well I am helping her kids in school, sick parents, etc. I won’t usually do more than one or two of these before I think I should be paying her something directly and not supporting the bar. But, when a girl orders tequila-rock-and-roll, I feel insulted. She does not like me, she does not respect me. She is in cahoots with the bare to scam me. She is bold faced taking money out of your pocket without giving you anything of value in return, and waiting to see if you have the courage, or are not too drunk, to realize she is hustling you. You are not a BF and not even a customer, you are a mark.
Last time it happened I was with this totally cute, totally self assured Filipina. I told her to order what she liked. When the drinks came it was five tequila-rock-and-rolls. She had taken the liberty of ordering for her and her friends. I was so angry at myself for letting my guard down, letting them take advantage of me by treating me like a sucker that I told the waitress to take the drinks back, and kissed the girl good bye. She laughed, probably thinking Cheap Charlie. But at least I had s bit of self esteem, and HK$500, left.
Don’t let some 22 year old prostitute treat you like a chump. Every time I see a guy getting suckered into buying these I want to take him outside and give him a lecture. So here you have it. Instead of several tequila rock and rolls, save your money and go short time. That is what you both really want. You will be much happier. You have been warned.
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The extremely attractive girls you see not talking to guys and buying their own drinks are most likely just hanging out and having a good time. They probably have 1 or 2 regular guys (usually married) who pay them a stipend so they are just fine financially. They obviously can't see the married guys at night so they just hang out with their friends. They will off course go with other guys but money won't be the motivating factor.
So true, and their asking price will remain high. Nice take HK Dog.
Brown Rail
06-28-08, 04:53
Can anyone do a good write up of short time hotels or point me to one? (I still can't figure out the search function)
Like the drinks prices, I have trouble seeing the pattern as to exact pricing, so am always a bit surprised. In Wanchai I usually use Ming Court or Beverly.
Name: MING COURT HOTEL
Address: Flat A, B & C,2/F, Hong Kong Mansion,137-147 Lockhart Road, Wanchai, Hong Kong
District: Wan Chai District
Type: Tourist Guesthouse
Room: 9
Tel: 2135 8692
Fax: 2866 3963
Ming Court is located on the north side (same and block as Bridge, but towards the eastern end) of Lockhart Road. It is cheap and cheerful. It costs about HKD230/2 hours prime time HKD130/2 hours off peak (afternoons?). I actually know someone who comes in from Shenzhen for R&R on weekends, and he sleeps there over night. I don’t know the rate. The rooms are very small some have well placed mirrors (walls and ceilings). Sometimes hot water, sometimes not. The bathrooms are tiny, with the Asian-style hand shower over the toilet. Always give a single condom (in case you forget). They are pretty strict about time. About 15 minutes before time’s up you will get a call. Then 5 minutes, then when it is up, then about every 2 minutes! This will definitely not impress the girls, but it is functional.
Name: BEVERLY HOTEL LIMITED
Address: 4/F, Capital Building,175-191 Lockhart Road,Hong Kong.
District: Wan Chai District
Type: Tourist Guesthouse
Room: 17
Tel: 2507 2026
Fax: 2376 3495
Beverly is a bit more upscale, though still zero stars. The rooms are much larger, some 3 times the size of Ming Court, as are the bathrooms. It seems to rent for HKD330/2 hours. Real bathrooms with a tub. Hot water generally ok. If you go after midnight the rate is HKD380 until noon the next day, pretty good value. Some rooms have little mirrors angled in the ceiling (I find myself moving the girl around trying to place her where I can see her). Problem with staying overnight is that there is a lot of noise. I don’t know if it is the restaurants below or construction (in the middle of the night), but you keep getting woken up. Aircon can be difficult to figure out and TV has about 5 channels, if you can find them, 2 porn and 3 local Chinese. By the way, if you like Korean food, the restaurant below has a pretty good value barbeque buffet. Girls used to Ming Court like being taken here. It is not the Shangre La, but is ok. And if you take the room till noon, she can sleep the night through even after you leave.
I have used hotels in Causeway Bay, across the street and up the hill from Sogo, but none I would recommend. Same in Mong Kok. In both cases I was "dating" girls who work in HK (Domestic Helpers), not Wanchai girls.
What other hotels do you use?
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