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festival of pleasure
organized by national network of sex workers
1st 2nd and 3rd march
vjt hall, thiruvananthapuram
kerala, india
your questions our answers
sex workers’ forum kerala
this is an exploration we invite you to take through the multi-dimensions of sexuality and our society. we are answering it with our experience of life and as we perceive it. you may disagree, fight and oppose it but this exploration will never be boring. whatever you encounter on the way, please record and send us a copy. let us together explore the hidden labyrinth of our society and then build a more egalitarian one. bon voyage…
how can you term sex as ‘work’? is that a profession?
yes, it is a profession. in the ancient times, it was known as ‘vesyavriti’ in sanskrit; ‘vriti’ means work. any work is profession. we know it is work, because we do it. it was known before as prostitution.
why now it is called ‘sex work’?
as time passed by and values changed, the word ‘prostitute’ became derogatory. it is now used to stigmatize a person. in order to remove that stigma, the word ‘prostitution’ has been replaced with ‘sex work’. sex workers themselves coined the term sex work.
is not sex an expression of love?
sex, of course, is an expression of love. cooking, teaching, singing, writing a poem etc., are also expressions of love as much as they are self-expressions.
in that case, is it right to sell sex?
we are part of a society where all services have been commercialized. knowledge, talent, health services, etc., are bought and sold. even meditation and yoga are taught for payment. then, what is so special about sex?
so, sex can be sold?
definitely, yes, it can be sold. sex work is paid service.
what ever you would say, sex work is a shameful job.
no, you are mistaken. the working conditions are shameful. not the work. usually, an activity when declared illegal, will be carried out in secret and in disgusting situations, and then it will appear very shameful.
is it so? but then nothing seems as shameful as sex work.
there are many. take the case of alcohol. arrack is banned in kerala. if you consume it, it is illegal and you can be booked. but, if you consume alcohol in a bar, it is legal and has social status even. consuming alcohol in train is a punishable activity in india but in the flight, it is served as a delicacy.
so you are saying it is the situation that makes the act shameful?
of course. besides that, the human tendency is to do what is forbidden or prohibited. again, organized criminal groups emerge around the forbidden. violence and injustice become part and parcel of it. all this is applicable now in the case of sexwork, that is why it seems a criminal activity and shameful.
how can we redeem this situation?
in the case of sex work, it has to be decriminalized.
do you mean that sex work has to be legalized?
no, there is a subtle difference between decriminalization and legalization. when it is decriminalized, that work can be carried out by anyone (for example, agricultural activities, where licenses are not necessary). but, legalization will bring authorities along with it.
so what?
there is a problem. usually, legalization means the state stepping in, which will bring on its heel the licensing authority, then, the doctor who give fitness certificate and the police who execute law and they all have to be bribed. this will pave way for the emergence of a new section of unauthorized sex workers also. but then, decriminalization means appropriate changes in law also or it will remain a lip-talk.
so you want a free for all situations?
no, it was only an attempt to highlight the possibility of corruption that could emerge as a result of license raj. on the other hand, better control and order can be ensured through sex workers’ organization itself.
what does that mean?
the organization will be able to check whether the new entrant is an adult, whether s/he is entering the field on her/his own will, whether the person maintains physical and mental good health, etc. this way, the existing inhuman conditions in the profession can be eliminated. but to do this, we need a decriminalized situation.
whatever it is, isn't it an act that causes and spreads diseases?
there are many jobs with risky working conditions. a driver, a doctor, a nurse or a mine worker, all have to be extremely alert and careful in their work to be safe and assure safety for others. a doctor or nurse can become carrier of contagious diseases and infect lot of persons, remember typhoid mary. all that a sex worker has to do is to learn and practice ‘safe sex.’
‘safe sex’, what is that?
it means to adopt and practice non-penetrative sex or, if it is penetrative sex, to use condoms.
is that sufficient to prevent aids?
of course. this is the only possible way to prevent almost all the sexually transmitted infections. at the same time, it is unfortunate that sex workers alone are alert in practicing it.
what do you mean?
the sex workers are the only persons who learn and practice safe sex now. so coitus with sex workers is safe. but during casual sex, nobody bothers to adopt safety measures.
what evidence do you have to support that statement?
look at the number of aids patients in kerala. most of them (98%) are men and housewives. so you could see the modus operandi of the spread of this disease.
it is said that there are many aids patients among the sex workers of mumbai. what about that?
it is true. when aids reached india, there was none practicing safe sex. another important point to be considered is that the sex workers of mumbai did not go anywhere to bring the illness. it is those men, who constantly travel, transmitted the disease to the sex workers and to their own wives.
are you accusing your own clients?
we are only stating the fact and not intended as an accusation. men take initiative in sex act. so, those who shaped a male dominated society have more responsibility to practice safe sex.
why can't the women take initiative?
only sex workers, not wives, can demand the use of condoms during sex. in a society, where sexuality is suppressed and a culture of silence reigns, women who take initiative for using condoms will be put to shame.
is that the reason for stigmatizing the sex workers?
no doubt. in only sex work, women who have the right over their body to decide on how, where and with whom to have sex. in fact, free and safe sex happens only in sex work.
if that is the case, how did aids spread fast among the sex workers of mumbai?
good question. you should know that in the present situation, sex work and its premises are criminalized. hence the brothels are all unauthorized. and, those in it, like the wives, are not free. the bonded sex workers’ fate is to become wives to many.
are you not countering your own statement that sex workers are more free than wives?
true, there is a contradiction. all sex workers are not free. there are two sections among them. one section sells themselves, while the other is sold. the former is comparatively more free and safe. the latter is in slave trade. nobody could do anything because everything is criminalized. when the sex workers are sold by others, shouldn't that be prevented? of course. it is a priority of our organization. no one should sell another. it has to be treated illegal.
is not closing all the brothels a better option?
no, that wouldn't do. brothels are not only just prisons; they are work places as well. to close the work place is like closing down a factory. would you close down a factory when the workers ask for the improvement of the working conditions, such as safety and health measures, raising the salary and reducing the workload and improving the facilities?
what a comparison! you mean brothels should be continued?
they need not be continued in the present form. at the same time, it is a safe shelter for the sex workers. its absence will affect them.
it is ridiculous! social workers are working hard to close down the brothels and you argue for them?
it is true. they consider brothels as exploitative structures only and try to close them. then the sex workers are rehabilitated, by sending them back home or put in a remand home, so that the social workers could sleep peacefully. rehabilitation usually ends up with solitary confinement with hard labor with minimum payment for the rest of a sex worker’s life. if we talk to somebody, they will accuse us of starting the old business. rest of our life, we will be forced to live a ‘moral’ life according to our saviors. are you ridiculing? why such a contempt towards rehabilitation? it is not contempt. isn't it those who are unemployed need to be rehabilitated? we are employed. ours is a profession. it is true that we are being exploited. instead of ending that exploitation why should we be treated as unemployed persons? have they ever thought what our plight will be at home or remand home? in rehabilitation who will provide companionship in our life? we never see these social workers again. they treat us with disdain; we need love and affection, which is a forgotten chapter in their bible. we need sex, who will provide it? will they? this profession has no dignity. why do you want to continue in it? in our opinion, this is a decent profession. how many people are there on queue for our service! those who seek our services return with contentment. that is why they come in search of us again and again. scum of the society is coming in search of you. isn't it so? is it? head-load workers to engineers and politicians to priests are our clients. are they all bad people? in that case, we are ready to become bad with them.
anyway, this profession is not apt for a decent person.
here, the question concerned is who is decent, and what decency is. how can sex become indecent when it is carried out with mutual consent? committing sex as a right, without the consent of the partner, is considered decent? wonderful!
whom are you hinting at?
why doubt! it is the husband-wife relationship. most husbands [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) their wives. can there be a worse relationship than this? what else is more shameful than to share one’s life with a person who [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) you?
you are exaggerating too much. it is not fair.
is it so? is it decent to become the slave of a man whom you bought with dowry? can it be denied that husband-wife relationship does not exist on the foundation of money? which relationship is there without money transaction? why court orders maintenance payment in divorce cases? why wives plead for maintenance by ex-husbands? what service did they do for them? even then isn't it preferable than to share life with many? here the question is about freedom. what is the use of having a miserable life with one person? no wife has the right over her body. she is her husband’s property forever.
what about you? you accept money from anyone and are obliged to do whatever he or she demands.
that is only a myth. we decide on how to relate, with whom and where to have sex. we control the situation. only sexual relationships which we like take place.
i don't believe you. do those who are in brothels also enjoy this freedom? certainly not. since sex work is criminalized, such an atmosphere remains in the brothels. we have to add that, all brothels are not of the same type. there are brothels run by the sex workers themselves. exploitations, to the scale in mumbai, do not exist there. bengal has a different atmosphere than that of mumbai.
are you then justifying sex work and the need for brothels in the society? in our opinion, sex work is a necessity. those who are denied sex and those who want to enjoy variety/methods of sex should have an opportunity to fulfill their desire. what we need is recreation homes and not brothels. recreation homes? what are they?
brothel is the degenerated form of a rich cultural legacy. it is a product of what was denied. it is not necessary to sustain them. it can be compared to bootleg instead of pure alcohol.
you were saying about recreation homes...
yes, there should be recreation homes as expression of sophistication in culture. every man and woman should be able to come and enjoy the spring of life over there. recreation homes are necessary in the context of money-based and reproduction-based family relationship.
i don't understand.
every home has a kitchen, then why do hotels exist? as the hotels offer different varieties of food, provide space to rest and hold parties with friends and cater to your stomach when you are away from your home, likewise the recreation home also have its own functions.
you mean brothels, like hotels, are necessary?
not brothels, but recreation homes. certainly they are necessary. when the job requirements of a section of the society demand mobility; for e.g. sales representatives, delegates of conferences, truck drivers etc, there should be ways to meet their needs. in the absence of such a system, the inhuman acts like [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) happen.
you were referring about those who are denied of sex, who are they? the blind, the handicapped, the ugly, the aged and those who desire variety are those who are denied of sex. the men who doubt about their capacity for erection and cowards also come under this group. does anyone bother about their need for sex? they form a big chunk of our clients.
does it mean that only those who have some kind of handicaps approach you?
not that way. since the society does not care about these people’s need, we were only trying to bring them to your attention. again, those who undergo stress and having strained relationships also seek us out.
i don't understand what you say. i used to consider the brothels as places for the satisfaction of those with sexual obsession.
that’s where you went wrong. if they were the only clients, the existing laws would have been sufficient to control them. if people come in search of us, in spite of the present suppression, there should be some deeper reasons.
can you elaborate on that?
when we are children, our sexual instincts are controlled in every step by family, neighbors, society, teachers, priests and institutions like school and religion. thereafter, further control is imposed on by the police and the court. monogamy is projected as the ‘right’ model. our clients are coming to us after and irrespective of all these taboos and barriers. then you should understand the reality behind this need. as the saying goes, “there is more to it than the eyes can meet”.
this is surprising. i thought that it leads to sexual anarchy only. do your clients love you?
certainly, yes. many of them propose to marry us. we know the meaninglessness of a married life. hence we know that we would turn to be mutual oppressors in such a system. after experiencing the warmth in the relation, the clients want to marry us, hoping to perpetuate it. they don't understand that it will not remain or continue in a prison like atmosphere. let me ask you frankly, will you send your daughter to this profession? in the present situation, never. who would send another person to go through the trauma, shame and imprisonment? but this does not mean that the profession itself is indecent. this question is quite similar to asking whether one would seek job in iraq while the americans are bombing there. if no war, one would surely go.
your answers are peculiar ones. so, you are afraid to send your daughter to this profession?
it is nothing to do with fear, but of choice. again the present condition is not conducive for working that is all what i meant. we have to further analyze this question. i should not decide upon what my daughter should become. but, if she selects this profession, i will explain the risks, problems, advantages, freedom and conveniences of it. the ultimate choice will be her.
but doctors and engineers do push their children to take up the same profession.
that only means they are making a mistake and oppressing their children. if my daughter takes up this profession, i will instruct her how to manage the society. we are also working for a more free society for her generation. instead of creating oppressive husband-wife relationships, we aim at creating mutually loving friends-relationships.
does that mean we don't need families?
no; not that way. families will be there, as a historical truth, as there are many types of families. but in the present family system and relationship, there is no democracy. the ‘husband’ is the one who rules. the ‘wife’ is the ruled and the children are slaves. this pattern has to give way to love and respect in the relationship between man and woman.
if loving and respecting relationship exist in families, what is the role of sex workers?
it’s a good question. here, it is not an authoritarian relationship based on sexuality. now women are considered only as a receptacle to receive and sustain the sperm. the morality is exclusively attached to the paternity. ‘virginity’ has to be ensured only by the women.
my question was regarding the role of sex worker…
yes, yes, in the new system the role of a sex worker is similar to that of any other service provider, such as a doctor, a policeperson or a musician. sex work will not be a question of morality. people can seek it out without any blame or shame.
are you then advocating that there is no need for morality?
not at all. presently morality is a value that affirms the power of men. hence, whether it is wife or sex worker she is a commercial product for the men. we are speaking of a new morality.
can you explain it?
just like food and shelter, sexuality is a taste that humans have developed. it is not merely a reproductive activity. nor is it a process to ensure the paternity of the children. on the other hand, it is a vast world of tastes, which has not yet been completely explored, developed or enjoyed. when it is understood in that way, the present suppressive morality will have no place in our society.
i did not follow!
in other words, sex work will be an area of service like bringing up and educating the children for the qualitative development of a family. in such case, there will not be any need to suppress sexuality. can you elaborate further?
like we nurture any skill and develop it with proper control measures, sexuality also can be developed. it is like learning to drive safely. just because there will be accidents, we do not leave our car at home and walk. we learn to drive safely with expertness.
i suppose, you are trying to say something different.
yes. it is a complex issue. it has to be approached through different points of view. then only even provisional clarity can be achieved. maybe another angle can help us.
isn't it better to love and to live with one person alone?
it is not a question of good or bad. we have people with different interests and tastes in our society. the issue is how to live together with mutual respect in the context of variety.
do you mean that there is no right and wrong? right and wrong are relative concepts. when a mutually agreed contract is violated, rights and wrongs emerge as a rule in it and it is valid to that particular context. there is neither eternal truth nor eternal right.
will you explain this further?
all our traditions and customs we practice today were the rights and wrongs formulated according to the needs of the society at a given point of time. just like the laws, that are redundant need to be amended or updated, the rights and wrongs also have to be brought to the present and contextualized. but, it does not happen that way. even the difference in context and the power structure determine the ‘right and wrong.’ for e.g., it is wrong to kill a person inside the country, but right and honorable to kill an enemy soldier.
kindly elaborate
we just accept and absorb traditions with sensitivity. in this process, we don't reason them out. great people like buddha, christ and narayana guru were able to revalue them radically. this has taken us forward from the culture of ‘eye for an eye’ and ‘tooth for a tooth’ to the culture of loving one’s neighbor as one self.
i couldn't understand your ideology.
yes, it is convenient not to understand. if you understand, you will have to change your life’s perspective. it is easier to ignore or forget it. so we don't blame you, as it is the usual case for people to pretend. just a minute, how did you mobilize the finance for your activities? the money which was entrusted to durbar mahila samanwaya committee (dmsc) of kolkata, by various charitable institutions was distributed to the national network of sex workers (nnsw). we are part of the network, so we use that money for this conference.
that means you are rolling in foreign funds?
sex worker’s services are not region-bound. we are international citizens. we are against boundaries and wars. we stand for love and service. so, we have no contempt for foreign money the way it is reflected in your question. don't try to slip away. tell me the truth.
the distinguished service of dmsc in the area of hiv/aids brings worldwide help to them. they are ‘workers of the world.’ so, there is no question of national and foreign. besides, we realize that such discrimination can only result in unending hatred and war.
big talk! you are only trying to justify your foreign fund connection. we accept financial support from any institution, local, national or international. just as we entertain all our clients without the discrimination of poor or rich. we accept the helps too. your patriotism can bring only death to millions and result in immense destruction.
are you stating that patriotism is bad?
in the present form, it is bad. in the light of the philosophy of loving your neighbor and in front of the ideology of international workforce, yes of course, it is bad. present patriotism is too bad compared to the approach, service and love, we, the sex workers offer. we respect and recognize the patriotism that is proud of one’s nation while loving one’s neighbor too. we don't subscribe to that patriotism, which propagates hatred and war.
are you supporting the suppression and oppression the imperialist forces perpetuate on the third world countries?
no. we are trying to unite the first, second and third world countries to sow the seeds of a democratic culture in them. imperialism can never buy us. we stand against war and oppression.
how can you boast after accepting their funds?
we don't consider it as their money. we use the money for our freedom and the development of the society. we can never be influenced for any other involvement.
is this possible? any country in the world borrows from the existing financial institutions. but other than meeting their needs, do they agree to destroy their country according to the demands of such financial institutions? government of kerala does that by accepting loan from asian development bank (adb).
that is a subject which requires further discussion. anyway, our funds have no such conditionality attached. therefore, even according to your criterion, our situation is better than that of the government of kerala.
it is bad to receive foreign funds?
is “foreign” bad? in that case, the things that you use, from pen to the plane are all foreign. what about that? it is only a political position. it is also an emotional issue related to tradition. it was a strategy developed by gandhi for the freedom fight at that time. now, when we hear ‘foreign’, the social psyche is disturbed.
when we accept funds, we are accepting slavery.
not exactly. it is the conditionality along with the fund we receive, that is what is important. that is why adb is different from other institutions. we cannot equate the funds from the people of a country with the state instituted funds.
foreign forces are trying to mislead and control us through their financial support.
we have to distinguish between the american government and the people of america. we should be clear on what is politics. it is political myopia to equate the help of a charitable institution in america with the strings-attached help from bush.
whatever you say, i do not consider getting funds from foreign countries as good.
today foreign fund is used as a political weapon to attack each other. the asian social forum at hyderabad was organized with foreign fund. the organizers belonged to various left parties, including communist party of india (m). were they all enslaved by imperialism?
is there any doubt?
yes, we do doubt. in the changing world situation the old equations are not correct. therefore, we should evaluate the foreign help and fund on the basis of the conditionality attached to them. it is not an emotional question. it is the conditionality of adb loan which differentiates it from other financial institutions. when adb finance, they interfere with the governing system of that country.
are we not deviating? i think this system of selling women should be stopped. again you are mistaken. it is not a women’s issue. it is a profession carried out by men, women, transgender and intersex people. what?! men? intersex? what are you saying?
yes, this is a profession where maybe majority (60%) of the workers is women. the remaining consists of men and transgender or ‘hijaras’. so, don't see it as a system which exploits only women. my god! are men working as sex workers for women?
there are people like that. they are called ‘gigolos’. but they are a minority in our country. 99% of the male sex workers are for men.
what about others?
transgender and intersex sex workers render service also for men. therefore, to approach this issue as a women’s exploitation area will not help to understand this profession.
even if it is in sex work, isn't it man-woman relationship that we should encourage?
it is due to your narrow perspective that you are asking such a question. the sexual dimension is wide and diverse. there are men who love men (gays), women who love women (lesbians), people in love with both men and women (bisexuals), there are trapped identities in opposite sex’s body (transgender) and neither man nor woman or both (intersex) by birth.
you are not joking, is it true?
true as our own existence. besides the above mentioned groups, if you take into consideration, the men and women with varied sexual tastes and different methods they adopt, you would see how intricate and colorful the sexual dimension is.
i can't believe it!
there is one more thing you have to take into consideration. historically, to ensure the paternity of men, women were forced to remain chaste. this has hampered the development of women’s sexuality to take root and bloom. along with it sexuality was confined to the needs of the powerful and it remained in the narrow realm of succession rights. if condoms were invented before kingdoms were formed, the whole idea of morality would have been a different story. not many have to wait for their masters to come or commit suicide out of shame. so it has remained a suppressed area.
so…?
nothing become nonexistent just because it was suppressed, rather it adopts more complicated and varied forms for survival. just as ‘life’ which learns to develop different forms and techniques for survival in unfavorable conditions.
i don't understand anything?
what we are trying to communicate is that sexuality has a history, which is not linear. like human language it has a diverse history. a language becomes more intricate, complex and subtle as time pass by and also by the depth and vastness of the subjects it handles. similarly, sexuality is a basic need, which was made into an intricate and complicated one through the production relationships and power structures that existed in history.
can you explain a little more?
the diversity in the case of cooking food is another example at hand. taste differences among different cultures are immense but again if you come to the same culture, the differences are countless. from pudding to pork roast, french fries to salad and so on. the richness of sexual tastes is something akin to this. as sexuality’s history is of suppression, it made people to pretend otherwise, discretion is the password and whatever done is done covertly.
everything other than man-woman relationship was considered a crime by me! hold on! you are not alone. almost all the governments and societies of the past or present see it that way and call it coyly ‘against the order of nature’. meaning, coitus for procreation is ‘right’ and the rest as wrong, hence illegal. but if we take this reasoning as our criterion, immediately we will find that given the number of children being two or three, a couple has to make love maximum four or five times in their lifetime. what they do in the rest of their life is criminal.
the way you explain, presents a picture of sexual anarchy before me. this doesn't limit to sexuality alone. take the case of democracy itself. this fear you express, even when we explore theoretically, prevented people who went to wield power, to share it with people at large. however oppressive the present system be, it is still a ‘familiar’ one for us. so, even when we try to change or create a new system, it still remains unknown and unfamiliar, hence terrifying. so, even after the representatives of the people came to power, the real devolution of power has not happened. mainly because of the inherent apprehension mentioned here and along with the privileges of power enjoyed by the selected few.
you are digressing too much.
no, not digressing, we were only fetching an example to make you understand. like monarchy, the sexual practice familiar to patriarchal society is followed as the only ‘right’ with diligence by us. actually, what we call anarchy is the real democratic system, but there is no model or precedence for it to follow. we have to create and formulate the details of it as time and process goes by. with the new democratic value and its criterion we could determine the limits of the freedom exercised and can draw a new code of conduct.
will you, please, explain a little more?
coitus with mutual consent, whether between man and man, man and women, women and women, transgender and others, intersex and others and between more than one couple etc. should be accepted. and also the varieties of sexual intercourse and tastes should be accepted. the criterion of ‘right’ exercised here is of ‘mutual consent’. in public perception, coitus outside marriage contract still remains a ‘criminal’ act. no one really knows who is the criminal and to whom against the crime has been committed. sex workers remain criminals without anyone complaining!
then, should we see exploitation of children as ‘mutual consent’? certainly not, it has to be stopped. we encourage only the adults to enter this field, that too as a free decision taken by them. but here we have to be careful in drawing conclusions. sexuality and sex work should be understood in two different ways. like child labor we have to understand it deeply and subtly. everybody is against child labor now. but, to the poor, the labor done by a child is also a means of sheer existence. and also what we call traditional work, like handicrafts, all start at home at a young age.
what do you mean, shouldn't children go to school?
yes, they should. but we should understand that today’s education is also another form of labor. the culture of seeing carpet or coir making, fishing and cattle rearing and the likes only as child labor and the rest as education, is not a sane or welcome one.
i didn't get your point?
the above all are learning also. we practice to be a good musician, gymnast or dancer from our childhood. a nadia comaneci and sachin tendulkar all entered their fields of expertise in their childhood. but we never see these as child labor or exploitation. if you delve deep using the same criterion we use today, we could see that all these can also be termed as child labor.
what you are hinting at?
to be specific, the above criterion is not a good one. what is deplorable and fearsome is our effort to make everyone uniform and same. education is not part of freedom or liberation but is only a tool for someone, especially the rich and powerful, to use others. but we call that education. to sum up, the things we consider, abuse and trying to eliminate as child labor is not to be understood the way we do now.
what is the relevance of telling all this here?
we should understand sexuality like child labor. nobody considers or even remembers the sexual rights of children. sexuality, out of blue, does not appear at the age of eighteen. it is an ongoing process from childhood in every living being. we are not handling this in a healthy manner, instead we are trying to suppress it and instill fear of sin in children.
why should we encourage or consider sexuality in children?
sexuality is also knowledge. like language, we should grow learning it. at the age of eighteen, suddenly we are not talking and eating but everything is practiced on the road to adulthood. so, in the sphere of sexuality, the condition of absolute ignorance and suppression is terrible. the sexually oppressive atmosphere we see around is our own creation.
but does this mean children should enter sex industry?
no. what we are trying to convey is that because of the fear of children entering sex work, we suppress all sexual feelings in children. everybody is sensitive about children and even the topic of sexuality can never be opened surrounding children, so we are using this instance for the need of sexual education for children rather than the heavy silence around it. as we said earlier, like all other profession, only adults, with their conscious decision, should enter the sex profession.
is it possible for you to prevent the entry of children into sex work?
our organization is able to check the entry of not only children, but also the entry of trapped or unwilling women. here lies the importance of our organization. if a new person enters the field, we are able to keep a watch over him/her.
what do you mean?
if we are united we could do it easily. since this profession is criminalized, no one is able to do anything. in the case of labor unions, when a new head-load worker enters the field, the union is able to identify him, help him out in fixing his rate of the wage and also exercise some control over him. this kind of self-regulatory system is possible only in a crime-free atmosphere. by forming self-regulatory committees of sexworkers we could find solutions to the ills now plaguing the sex industry. this is the deepening democracy in the field of sexwork. we always forget that those who are involved directly in a field are the right persons to find solutions and are responsible also. instead we always go with home made solutions and oppress the needy.
let me ask you a different question, why do feminists oppose you?
it is yet another misunderstanding. they don't oppose us. some of them are a bit confused. whenever a woman tries to do any social or political service, she is stigmatized as ‘prostitute’ by men. then the women are forced to hide their own sexuality and to prove that they do not have any sexual instinct.
i do not understand.
when women enter in the social field and involve in public activities, the male chauvinistic society opposes it. in order to control such woman, the men and other domesticated women, use morality and sexuality as their weapons. this forces the women activists to show over prudence regarding sex. are you saying that feminists are showing over prudence regarding sex? not just showing, they are trapped into it. it is a very delicate and subtle issue. it is like the communists in india who opposed gandhi turned out to be better gandhians. the model politician for the public remained a gandhian and the communists had no choice but live a life of oppressive simplicity.
your arguments are peculiar.
not peculiar, but complex ones. we are just trying to show how the social situation in which you live can form and mold us irrespective of our belief system or ideology. feminists are our friends and stand with us in our fights. i do not think that they will agree to that.
those who do not agree today will join us tomorrow. we will ensure the freedom and liberation of all sex workers and all women. the freedom of the most oppressed is the freedom of all. due to this same reason, the freedom of men also is our concern.
freedom of men? what do you mean?
though the men shaped it, the present society is a prison to men also. ask the men whether they are free. they are not. we know that very well. the tears of our clients prove to us how terrible our society is. do you equate sexual anarchy as freedom?
certainly not. it simply means egalitarian male-female relationship, female-female relationship, male-male relationship and sexual minority relationship. just ask any man whether he has got a good female friend. a man longs for such a friendship.
i do not understand what you are saying.
an unequal society creates people without freedom. today’s human beings are like flowers half bloomed and then fade away. they do not become flowers with fragrance. by creating a free society can only we have complete human beings.
okay, okay but what is the role of sex workers in it?
sex workers exist in the area of sexuality and sexuality is suppressed. therefore, any act to attain sexworker’s freedom would speed up the liberation process of the whole society. that is why our liberation is the liberation of the society.
isn't there more to feminist’s disagreements with you than what you have described?
yes. they oppose commercialization of women in a patriarchal society. in their view sexwork is only an extension of this commercialization. logically, it is true. but commercialization is not exclusive to sex alone. as we mentioned in the begin everything from spirituality to politics and food to space are sold in our society.
are you then supporting commercialization?
no, commercialization is the present condition of our society. the liberation from it is neither easy nor an issue of women alone. this was the focal point of socialism, which failed world over. no nation could so far overcome the power of the market. perhaps, it is possible that humans can have freedom only within the limits of the market.
so, you justify selling women to the tourists as in thailand?
your question brings us back to square one. this is not only an issue of selling women. but then thailand is not our model. it is the condition of the broiler chicken. the shift from the brothels of mumbai to the brothels of thailand is only a shift from the dark cage to a clean one. this never was/is our choice. again there is a perception that all women sitting in the glass houses are all trapped. but there are instances of people lending it. probably it is only culture shock we experience, which leads to exaggerated experiences. we have to sift through to get to reality. aren't your activities a prelude for sex tourism?
this question has another side. we, the sex workers, existed before the concept of tourism developed. the majority of the clients of sex workers are from the same nation. studies have shown that the clients of the sex workers of thailand, the so called sex-tourism center, are from thailand itself.
does it mean that there is no relationship between sex work and tourism?
just like any other service or product’s relationship, sex work also has a relation to tourism. our traditional art forms such as kathakali, theyyam and other handicrafts depend on foreign markets and tourism for their existence now. tender coconuts are served to the tourists. but then, does it mean kathakali and tender coconuts are created and made for tourism? your arguments are tit for tat. are you trying to defeat me?
we are not trying to defeat you. this is a social intervention, so your defeat is also our defeat. either we win together or fail together. this discussion was meant to make us united to break the chains that bind all of us. these answers are relative in nature, not absolute ones.
okay, okay. by discussing we wandered all over. one more question does government support you in your activities?
we expect the government to help us. what we address is not only our problem, but of everyone in the society. we are just taking the initiative. again, we are not here to fight the government. but one thing for sure, we will be constantly reminding that we are here, and unless and until this issue is resolved the society cannot move forward.
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this is not an end to this dialogue. if you have any more questions, do write to us in the address below. we will try to answer you personally and also will try to bring out another leaflet answering you in the next conference. you can also record your criticisms. this dialogue we began now should not end here. it has to continue. perhaps that could show the door to freedom of our society. we have to accelerate the democratization process by delving deep into the contradictions our society hold.
sex workers’ forum
kerala anasooya,
ptpn-e-31 ptp nagar,
thiruvananthapuram kerala, india-696038
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e-mail swfk@asianetindia.com
very long Q&As. If I go there to that part of India, can you arrange sex for me? Please give a short answer. Thanks.
besides sex, india is amazingly interesting for a visitor. though kama sutra is dead and professionalism is missing a bit if you compare with latin america or east asia. one can be very fond of them nevertheless. india's prostitution scene is all underground but has a huge range of choices with prices starting from 1 up to 500 usd or more. my information refers to bombay and to india in general. this report may be most helpful if you didn't make much experience in india so far.
perceptions:
do yourself a favor by dressing more formal. dressing is important in india. there is not much appreciation for walking with flashy t-shirts and shorts through towns and cities. you may want to avoid being put into the wrong category right away. as a white coming from abroad you are considered a bag full of money from the majority of people but by being well-dressed you run into more sincere people in general. if you don’t want to be constantly bothered by touts always make the impression or actually being determined in where you are going and what you are doing.
at popular sex destinations of the (east) europe, asia and latin america it may be common roaming around with the girl (wife, hooker or whoever) without being bothered too much. in india it is different. any indian girl being seen with a westerner for whatever reason is considred to have sex with him, one indian friend told me. apart from that you have narrow-minded, frustrated or jealous men and women who will openly pass bad comments to the women and possibly throw some hateful looks if an indian woman is seen with you. in mega-cities like bombay, delhi or bangalore this hardly applies but in provincial cities, even in larger ones, this can be an annoying experience. if you have ever asked yourself why indian and middle eastern women are hardly available to foreigners as a girlfriend or a wife, it is because few are so courages to rebel against sick attitudes and the possible will of their family.
bargaining:
even if it seems ridiculously cheap sometimes, if you pay carelessly more or don't bargain, they will try to charge foreigners excessive rates all the time and you give following visitors a disadvantage.
the price in brothels as well as in hotels is pretty fixed, so it is usually ok when you pay what is asked. but even there, discount is possible.
when looking for a hotel room they often show you the worst ones first but if you are staying and insisting on seeing some beter rooms, they will show better ones, if available. i experienced that the same is done in some brothels with the girls. they show you an average selection. if you conclude there needs to be something more inspiring, have a chat with the pimp and make him aware that you are about to come an other day if he doesn't have anything else. in up-market brothels this applies to a lesser degree and you may have to believe what the pimp is saying.
in almost every brothel you can expect a room boy who wants to offer towels. some kind of employment-measure and a way to press some more out of you. those guys however only receive a tiny share out of the business. either you tip them or an elegant way out of it, is to have your own tissues/towel and condoms. it is advisable to have your own condoms. the ones offered by the brothel don't seem to be of highest quality. if it is advisable or expected to give a tip depends on the circumstances. the culture of tipping seems imported and i cannot see any consistent rules, except for waiters, drivers and roomboys. i would tip prostitutes for exceptional service, for advance agreement on extra activity or if you suspect she is working under a poor contract.
the women:
among a lot of indians women are often considered nymphomanical or vulgar if they have a female shape . believe it or not, an indian woman can consider her appearance as decent (seems like an important bride selection criteria) if she has no visible tits and buttocks. when choosing a hooker of course things are entirely different as you will find out. the modern generation has an awareness for keeping a body in shape as well as the means to work out. this is lacking for the common people and prostitutes except for high class escorts who have also have the awareness and financial means to fight age and thus are working longer in business than the other ones. then there is this issue about skin color. in asia fair is considered beautiful. the pimps getting more money for fair-skinned girls, actresses are made up so that their skin appears like china bone and indian parents advertising their daughters for marriage by mentioning her light-skinned color.
the standards and prices:
in india you may get it for 2 usd but especially in big cities the hygenic conditions (or the atmosphere itself) may make you wanna puke. in small towns or bigger villages the conditions for low-budget are better. according to my experience there seem to be independent service providers whom you only come to know through locals.
in mumbai (bombay) or delhi there are people who are very rich by western standards and the property prices are partially reaching new york, paris or tokio standard. this way any close to exclusive experience cost a few thousand rupees at least. the medium range is between 500-2000 rs for 30 minutes at which women usually don't do or don't know bj, are rather unexperienced and most of the time don't speak english. for 5.000-10.000 rs. you should expect a few hours with a real beauty who knows all the tricks, communication skills and english. there may be a failed actresses, models or materialistic college girls to choose from. to my mind anything above 100 usd an hour is simply good marketing or using the carelessness of the customer. if you are asked to pay 150 usd/hour you could find the same quality and service for 100 as well. i guess however the internet escort agencies or those agencies and hookers affiliated with the luxury hotels still find customers for ridiculous exorbitant prices. the business man or sheikh from the middle east who can pay 400 usd for a night in a hotel, may not mind to squander the same amount for a fuck with an indian call-girl, regardless if a monthly middle-class income of an indian family is about the same.
a clean room with good-looking professionals who do blowjob cost me 3000 rs. for 45 minutes. my favourite driver would not recommend me any experience costing 100-200 rs. only once i have being offered a 300 rs fuck when i walked up to place where all the banks are located. some girls where standing under big pillars but i don't remember the exact location. though it was a 20-25 min walk from gateway of india somewhere ahead of prince of wales museum. the 500-2000 rs. experiences can include some beautiful women but often a rather dirty, gloomy atmosphere. also consider there is a lot of forced labor in india. but it is fairly easy to make out if you don't want to support it.
according to my experience it is a usual habit of the pimps to do the negotioations and collect the money but he will be invisible once you leave or have a complaint. if you want to complain you have to deal with the assitants first. i suppose if you make your case serious enough there will be some kind of cooperation. most of the time there is no reason to get irritated though you can come across those deals which promise you a lot of time but the hooker gets dressed after you cum.
if you like a place make sure to ask for a "visiting card" otherwise you will not find this place again. there are hundreds of anonymous brothels in big cities and thus every taxidriver or tout seems to have a different stock of adresses. there are also a lot of bars with red light activity and escort agencies but i havn't experienced them yet
if you go by taxi make sure the driver knows that this is a “girl’s place” so that the driver can ask the “right” people for direction if he doesn’t know.
dealing with the middlemen:
in early years i wandered the streets evening in colaba and in some cases touts will approach you either for weed or girls. if you don't have a connection with locals, it doesn’t need to be a bad choice to go with them. make always sure you are agreeing on terms, condition and his comission in advance ! if the communication works out you may let him know you prefered choice of brothel and price with some easy keywords. the touts comission can be around 100 rs or less, it depends on the circumstances. if the tout tries to fool or threaten you with police, there is no need to worry, pay what was agreed and leave possibly by vehicle so that he can't follow.
taxi-drivers can be very helpful. i went with drivers who hardly had any clue but there are those who know much more than others. i met some in the tourist areas who spoke enough english , who had a good taste and were cooperative. if you cannot rely on other sources, it is luck and your own experience or judgement to find the right driver or middlemen
security:
indians are usually peaceful and that makes a even a city of 16 mio residents quite safe. there are regional differences however. the situation in delhi in general is much more challenging for a foreigner, people are more pushy and you have to be more alert. there may be theft and all kinds of attempts cheating you but that someone takes out a gun or a knife to threaten a tourist is unheard of. i have been in awkward situations and with common sense you are getting out of them.
like in many other countries, prostitution is officially illegal but the law itself is hardly enforced.
I'm thinking about maybe living in India sometime in the near future, however I'm concerned that I won't find Indian women attractive. Are they all dark skinned with thick eyebrows or are there some light skinned women who look more like white girls? What percent of the girls are attractive? Yes, I prefer light skinned women.
Are western men highly desired by the Indian women, so that it's easy to get it gratis?
Also, do almost all Indian women speak English?
Thanks.
Charlie XP
02-24-04, 11:59
Tomorrow I go to Goa (calangute). Would like any help where in the area of Goa I can find girls (call-girl ore brodel's etc).
Please PM me with.
Charlie
(Thanks guys.)
For first time visitors to this country and more specifically Mumbai, I am willing to offer my services as a SIN CITY guide for a fee. I am not a pimp. I am a facilitator, you will be seeing this country through my eyes. You will not waste time hunting for your requirements. I have a network which covers almost the whole of Mumbai. The highs the lows name it. I will also ensure that you do not overpay for anything. Which is what is happening with most foreigners out here.
John Peter
05-12-04, 22:43
Dear Pals,
Any info about Indore City in Madhya Pradesh?
Thanks,
John Peter
Amen to That
06-15-04, 15:04
This is my first report on this board. I just read this article on rediff.com and thought it would make interesting reading.
http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/jun/15sex.htm
Government considers licences for prostitutes
Anand Mohan Sahay in Patna | June 15, 2004 16:30 IST
The Centre is considering a proposal to introduce licences for sex workers in the country, Union Minister of State for Human Resources Kanti Singh said on Tuesday.
Singh told reporters in Patna that the move is part of the measures contemplated by the government to bring sex workers into the social mainstream and improve their standard of living by giving them a formal status.
There are nearly two million sex workers in India, almost half a million of them living in subhuman conditions.
Technically, prostitution itself is not a crime in India, though soliciting for clients, advertising prostitution, living off the earnings of prostitutes, recruiting prostitutes, or trafficking in women are crimes.
There are many countries which have accorded legal sanction to prostitution, not only to bring it under the purview of rules, but to also play a more proactive part in enforcing safe sex for the benefit of both the prostitute and the client, and by extension the client's family.
Non-governmental organisations working with prostitutes strongly feel that licences will give the trade a formal status and help remove the stigma associated with it.
Freddy One Eyed
07-18-04, 09:29
I am from UK and visit India quite reguarly on business.
My take on the 'scene' in India is that it's pretty shit, and, unless anyone can guide me as to how to "unlock the doors to the golden honeypot" I have pretty much given up looking around in India.
I mean, where's the middle ground there?
You can get $1or2 *****s with guaranteed aids thrown in, or else it's US$100-200 *****s who are the so called advertised call-in girls that service hotels. My experience with them is that they are generally over-priced, over-rated, money grabbing *****s who screw you around and don't perform well at all.
In short, a complete waste of time, better to keep you pecker in your trousers and your dollars in your pocket until you get to Dubai or the Far East!
Now I have said that, does anyone know where is the middle ground ? Where do you find the nice young college girls who do it for fun, like having a good time, are not greedy, and are greatful for the $40-50 bucks they get on top of a good night out ? I mean who in India makes $50 a day anyway for chrissakes?
There, you have my take on India, does anyone think they can convince me otherwise, or do I save it all up for Thailand!
Freddy
Freddies report, while direct, matches most of my experience with India. I hope there's a secret to unlock the door because there certainly are plenty of beautiful and charming women.
Guys, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. It will help to expand the network.
Man In Search
07-19-04, 09:29
Freddy One Eyed,
Save both for your home country, your pecker and your dollars (or will be the pounds). Asian countries does not need mongers like u buddy.
Your attitude (as it comes across in your note) sure sucks for chrissake. :-)
Man In Search
Hi Guys,
Have to admit there are alot of attractive women in India, and there are some escort agency's listed for Mumbai and Delhi but unfortunately, I can not find any internet escort listed for Calcutta. I would hope that someone could let me know how to contact an attractive escort in Calcutta as I am planning to be here for some time. I call one escort agency listed in the paper and agreed to the US$ 200 dollar fee but after 2 hours of waiting, I received a call from a guy saying he was on his way over, I told him there must be a misunderstanding since I specifically asked for a woman. Anyway, the error was not corrected and it was a lonely night. Also, I've tried the Tantra Disco but I arrived fairly early and from what I saw there were only regular girls hanging out with friends, maybe things change at a later time. My local friends tell me the real action is in Mumbai (Bombay) Unless someone comes through with some information, there be no Shagging in Calcutta.
Yeah Baby
Your Guest
07-20-04, 22:07
Dear Man in Search,
Freddy has just shared his experiences, so has Draco. So there is no point in getting so terrible upset. May be if you go to the UK and somebody picks your pocket on the tube I'm sure you would say that the whole fucking country is full of pickpockets.
Freddy you c***sucker,
Please do not bloody generalise.
Yogesh
Man In Search
07-21-04, 11:50
Yogesh,
Thanks for the response, but it is precisely the generalisation that I objected to.
Take care
Hey,
Checking this site reqularly for info on the booty. I would be in Delhi next month and would like some info or contact nos or information on young college girls.
Checking out the site one can say that it is either very cheap ($1-2) or very expensive. Paying $200 for a piece of brown ass aint my cup of tea.
What about hooking up and hunting together. I would be in town the first week of August.
Thanks in advance and Cheers.
Man In Search
07-22-04, 04:38
Hunk G,
Your comments have racial overtones. Please refrain. If you do not like brown then dont monger in brown places.
The colour of the ass or pussy should not determine the price. It is the level of service that should determine the price.
As I see it when you cheong / monger across countries you come into contact with various cultures which broadens your horizon.
Happy mongering and please no comments with such racial undertones.
Take care.
As they would say in India, Hunk G is just another gora choot.
To man in search,
I think you're overreacting. Would you be so disturbed if somebody says black ass or white ass etc...? I don't think so.
To everybody,
What are places other then India where person can get taste of brown/red (if it offends some people) then indian ass and pussy? and I'm not asking about expensive/western countries.
I'm really confused after reading this thread. Sounds like it't hard or bothersome to get good quality indian/bangladesh/nepal asses in such generally poor country.
Enlight me please...What's a big deal? I work with indian females (I didn't fuck them yet) and sometimes I wonder what is all fuss about except they are rigid re other cultures and somewhat ego centric most of the times. Most important I think they're really suffering in arranged marriage traps. It seems that they are willing to go this way for the kids and tradition...
Please don't start discussion about racial overtones and bs like that. I RESPECT and LOVE INDIAN CULTURE AND INDIANS. Thanks.
Freddy One Eyed
07-26-04, 10:36
To 'Man In Search'
Sorry brother, but your attitude sucks, and frankly if you haven't got anything useful to contribute you have no place in this forum.
Apart from slagging members off, what do you contribute ? I have read some of your other postings too, and it seems that you do this all the time - SHAME ON YOU! Please don't clog this site up with criticism. Contribute for the good and benefit of all !
I mean, this is a mongers site and we try to help eachother out.
I have had several members contact me with useful tips and contacts for Delhi in response to my posting.
Hey guys,
I do not know what the fuss is all about. I mean we say white ass, black ass and so on. I just want me some action, the bottom line goes.
So will anyone oblige me?
Thanz
News Item: Food for thought.
India’s Skin Route crowding up Srinivasa Prasad
Bangalore, August 1
India's booming infotech industry may have robbed software engineers in the United States and Britain of their jobs, but the wealth created here is throwing up big business for a different breed in rich nations — call girls.
Finding India flush with new millionaires, an increasing number of shapely call girls from developed countries are making a beeline for places like Bangalore, Delhi, Mumbai and Kolkata, say pimps and star hotel executives.
After the Soviet Union disintegrated in 1991, hustlers from newly independent — and poor — countries like Ukraine and Uzbekistan began trickling into India. In recent years, this trickle has turned into a flood with thousands of girls from many Asian and European nations flooding Indian towns and cities.
And now, with the number of people with huge disposable incomes rising in India, women from rich nations like the US, UK, Germany, Australia and Japan are beginning to find a lucrative market in the country.
According to 'Anjan,' a Bangalore pimp, these women arrive in India on tourist visas, do quick business and go back home only to return later.
A certain class of American girls who charge $200 to $500 an hour in the US get easily the same amounts in India in dollars or the Indian equivalents of Rs 10,000 to Rs 25,000. They can even get paid more, depending on the client's fancy for white skin. In fact, many classy Indian call girls too earn this much.
"I can give you a tall, fair and nice-looking British girl who looks like an FTV model," a Mumbai pimp who runs a website to peddle Indian girls, promised this correspondent. "Make up your mind, she is in India only till August 15." He claims she is in India on a "modelling assignment."
Most British and American girls put up their provocative photographs, vital statistics and phone numbers on the net and strike deals with Indian clients directly, steering clear of agents. "They seem perfectly able to handle their clients or any situation quite well," a top hotel executive says.
'Andy' of "Delhi Escorts" offers Japanese or Korean girls, claiming that they are working in call centres in Gurgaon. Karan of Delhi's "Koyna Escorts" offers an "elite class package of beautiful females" from Australia and Germany for Rs 30,000 to Rs 50,000.
Says 'Sanjay' of Mumbai who calls himself 'coordinator for dames,' "I can give you excellent girls from Romania and Greece, not cheapskates from Russia or Uzbekistan who finish a round in Dubai and Bangkok and then come to India. Now we get better and original stuff from other countries.''
Police across India have been regularly arresting girls from central Asia. In the last three months alone, the Delhi police have arrested about a dozen, the latest being a Ukrainian and an Uzbek arrested on July 9 from a house in Anand Niketan.
"It's hard to detect traffic from the US and UK because they look like rich tourists and visit five-star hotels only," says a Bangalore police officer.
Hi Duniawala,
Thanks for the info. How does one get in contact with Karan of koyna escorts. Need a good shagging.
Yeah Baby
YB
I have no idea. My mongering in India has always been as gifts from friends and never paid anything yet. I personally feel the rates are too high for a country like this (even though I am originally from there), so I don't bother with the escort agencies.
Perhaps you can Google search.
Have fun.
I planning a vacation to the Maldives and was wondering if anyone had any contacts there or even recomendations about resorts.
I posted here because there is no board on the Maldives.
Bowled Over
08-05-04, 15:35
Hi Everyone,
The "famous" Samson should be in trouble soon !!
Please see the past posts regarding brothers being cheated by him. Someone seems to be getting to him:
Conman lays sex trap on Net
Hyderabad, Aug. 4: It is a weird invitation into a lurid world. Enter at your peril.
“Welcome to the sophisticated world of pretty babes,” the hidden host says. “This is the world where everybody needs to have sex with a pretty babe… We have put up a site ‘Hyderabadxguide’ in geocities.com to guide you. I have… beauties working in MNCs, glamour world, air hostesses, models. Just transfer the cash to my account in ICICI Bank and enjoy them in Hyderabad…”
Net surfers looking for a good time may be tempted by the offer. But beware. You may be duped and cheated by a Mumbai-based “prostitution racket,” run by a suspected conman. The funny thing about this “prostitution racket” is that there are no prostitutes in it. Just empty promises.
The mystery conman has duped many people from the twin cities after taking Rs 10,000-Rs 25,000 from them. Of course, the promised ‘beauties’ never landed up. The same person and his gang have hosted ‘sex guides’ to Goa, Chennai, Bangalore, Mumbai and Delhi on the Net. Photographs of several young women — “our successful escorts” — have been put up on the sites.
This reporter called up the mobile number given in the website (09819437751) and spoke to a person who identified himself as Jitesh. He gave his name as Anil on one site and Raj on another site.
The conversation ran like this:
Reporter: Hi, I am speaking from Hyderabad. I was browsing your site and would like to have a girl.
Jitesh: OK… who are you and what is your name?
Rep: I am Satya, a businessman from Jubilee Hills.
Jitesh: That’s good. We have a private house at Banjara Hills. You can have the girl there. We have babes ranging from 10,000-Rs 20,000.
Rep: A friend of mine is coming from Warangal. You have to accommodate both of us. He wants to have a good time with an air hostess.
Jitesh: It will cost you Rs 20,000.
Rep: Are air hostesses available in Hyderabad?
Jitesh: Of course, even models and girls working for MNCs are available. You need to pay the cash in my ICICI account number 001801505498.
Rep: The rates are a bit high.
Jitesh: I am sorry, Satya. If you need a good babe, you pay big money. Immediately after I receive the cash in my account, my man will secretly meet you.
Rep: OK.
Cyber Crime Police Station Superintendent of Police M Shivanand Reddy said that he had received several complaints regarding the conman. “Many youth are falling prey to him,” Reddy said. “There is no prostitution racket. After getting the cash, he vanishes.”
Enquiries revealed that the ICICI account number is in the name of Samson Paul, C-108, Om Jaisree, Gurukrupa, Carker Road, Borivili (East) in Mumbai. The balance in the account was only Rs 96. Police said that it could be a fake address. “The mobile numbers seems to be on a fake name. He can easily make the web pages as it is of free of cost on Geocities offered by Yahoo. We will write to Yahoo to give the details of the man who runs the site,” said sub-inspector Ravi Kiran of Cyber Crime Police. Posting obscene literature on the web is an offence according to the IT Act, police added.
Hope they get rid of such pests !!
Enjoy,
Bowled Over
Off Topic. I'm looking into IT jobs in Asia and there hundreds if not thousands of listings in India. How many of these jobs are for expats? I am American but want to live and work overseas. Please PM if you can help. I have 20 years experience in IT mainly with Wide Area networks. Thanks
Sprokit69
Dude, China is not the place unless you Speak,read and write Chinese (Mandrain and Cantonese) thats why India has so many listings they speak read and write english.
My 2 cents
Hi,
Can one get Viagra or similar other drugs in India easily in the retail market? Is a prescription mandatory? What is the local brand equivalent?
Any specific shop recommendation in Mumbai/Delhi would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance for any inputs.
Prince,
Local equivalent of Viagra is easily available over the counter in many pharmaceuticals. they are available in 25 mg, 50 mg, and 100 mg doses. The 25 and 100 mg don't seem to be that effective as per the reports that have reached me. I would recommend that you take 2, 50 mg tablets at one go. You must also try the herbal version which is a more expensive but absolutely no side effects. Do let me know the effects if you decide to use that.
Regards
Can any one help me? I have a friend who is Indian and for Christmas I would like to get him an Indian porn magazine from india with hot chick on it. Does anyone know of any popular Indean erotic magazines I can order on online. Or who I may contact that can get a couple copies and ship them over to the states for me.
Thanks
Prince,
The local version of Viagara is Caverta or Penegra.
I also believe that the local version of Cialis is Apcalis (manufactured by Ajanta laboratories)
The prices of these would be mentioned on the strip itself or the box they come in. Dont let the Chemist overcharge you.
Also you can buy them over the counter.
Happy Mongering
Toranaga,
There are a couple of soft porn magazines,though a watered down version of Playboy
Go to any magazine or book shop and ask for "Debonair" or "Chastity"
Good luck
BodyRockerForU
09-22-04, 09:59
Ajanta Pharma is also making Generic "C" under name Tadalis.
2 pills pack of 10 mg each costs INR 36.
Member #2625
10-12-04, 09:03
Hello Friends,
I want to ask a question:
Is it safe to have BJ with a SW or a Eunuch without using condoms?
Also if there is any risk what is the level of risk and how can we minimize it. I am asking this because although I do FS with condoms but I do not like BJ with condoms. I mean there is no feeling. I think most members will agree with me that BJ can be enjoyed only without condoms and that too if you cum in the mouth of the SW or Eunuch.
give your comments and advice.
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Member 2625,
There is no problem in Bj without condom.
Member #2126
10-22-04, 09:26
Member 2625
I agree with what u say about getting a blowjob with a condom. There is absolutely no feeling.Personally i always get a blowjob without using a condom. I think that there is a risk of getting infection if the person giving the blow job has some ulsers or cuts in her mouth otherwise it is perfectly safe. So before u get a blowjob make sure that her mouth is ok.
Cheers
It may be unlikely, but if you come mainly for mongering, come during off-season.
Police is particularly active the more foreigners roam around in the typical tourist areas.
Brothels in India run on bribe, discretion and residents who shut up.
I wonder how one can find a balance of being discrete and helpful at the same time. But the indian police does not need to learn english, those who are covering a brothel get, depending on their rank, between 10.000 to 1 Lakh a month as bribe my taxi wallah told me.
It is very easy to make out for everyone who sees a non-indian being led into some building at night or waiting in taxi and having some sleazy guy(s) outside calling on his mobile.
This results in some brothels only willing to entertain indians to minimize the risk.
You can make a lot of valueable connections if she thinks there is more to share than fucking. Being invited to a girls hostel or so called Paying Guest Accomodation in which the hookers are residing in cramped, gloomy rooms away from their families. You are getting introduced to lot of other female friends though I had the feeling that it is all too natural if the one with whom you came doesn`t promote you in fucking the whole hostel.
As we have learned through out the forum. Blow Jobs are the least favourite women jobs in India, not to mention anything kinky which is probably out of question as well. Even though it does not really offer compensation but it seems that out of this aversity they may suck your nipples instead of your dick and think that might excite you equally. Whereever I went so far in India, nipple sucking was quite frequent.
Quite a few indian hookers know well it is worth to spread the legs for some good pussy stroking. If you make them wet you may get you some good bye kisses.
In most places the so called college girls are to my believe village girls made to look modern with some second-hand tight cheap brand jeans and out of fashion tops.
By experience I should say it is almost always a waste for you and the girl to pay the pimp for two fucks. Go for the short time and negotiate the second time with the girl directly.
Member 2625
I think that there is a risk of getting infection if the person giving the blow job has some ulsers or cuts in her mouth otherwise it is perfectly safe. So before u get a blowjob make sure that her mouth is ok.
CheersI can tell you from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE that girls with Ghonorea can look perfectly normal, esp in the mouth, and believe me when pus is coming out of your tool your going to wish you didnt go for that bbbj. Curable but a major pain in the ass. And my girlfriend of course found out. Be careful, AIDS does show up in saliva as well.
Deep Diver
11-20-04, 18:47
i can tell you from personal experience that girls with ghonorea can look perfectly normal, esp in the mouth, and believe me when pus is coming out of your tool your going to wish you didnt go for that bbbj. curable but a major pain in the ass. and my girlfriend of course found out. be careful, aids does show up in saliva as well.the following "bodily fluids" are not infectious:
saliva
tears
sweat
[CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113)
[CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109)
(source: san francisco aids foundation)
http://www.aids.org/info/faqs.html#oralsex
mate get your facts strieght or you just perpetuate the myths. you can not get aids from saliva. but you can get it from cuts or sores in the mouth if the man has aids and ejaculates, hence potentially giving aids to the woman or if the man has an open sore on his penis and the woman has blood from sores or gums.
sorry to hear about your incident and your girlfriend.
contiue the education
editor's suggestion: this is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the safe sex topic in the special interests section of the forum where it will benefit the forum members who are specifically looking for this type of information. thanks!
Due to the requests I received during the last days I thought to come up with something which should answer some questions.
To some extent it is understandable that people are not willing to sit hours on the forum to filter what they need in their specific circumstances. Though reading the reports or picking out the ones who seem to be valuable is best insurance against fraud and increases the chance of you having a good time.
Especially in big cities I do not know how much it really helps to name tell a specific hotel, brothel or contacts (being often a matter of taste) if you need over an 1 hour to get there. And that can happen in Mumbai or Delhi easily. (I hope one day big cities will be given new categories and divided into sections/quarters on wsgforum)
100 % guaranteed action ? There are plenty of credible reports which give you exact locations. A specific request of phone numbers is something else. I personally prefer to check out the location through the adress not through the phone as there is no safety- or fraud risk in India by just checking out the place and seeing girls and making my own judgement.
There are few opportunyties during the day. 90 % of the Hooker action starts when the sun goes down.
The easiest and least stressful for a first timer and/or foreigner is to find a taxi/riksha driver who speaks sufficient english to explain your needs. You will meet them where a lot of tourists stay. They will usually hang out in front or around of the hotels at the beach side or point of interests.
The worst (leaving fraud or a police raid aside for later) which can happen is someone disapproving of your intentions, looking at you with disdain or someone who pretends to know and takes you to the worst fuck-houses imaginable.
If you do not want to ask them they will sure ask you. If you go out for a stroll in the evening, some know pretty well what some single males are looking for when they are on a stroll seemingly without any specific purpose.
Lot of taxi drivers have mobile numbers these days and if you find a good driver or agent take their number and meet them next time.
If you do not mix up the general sleaziness with friendliness or mixing up their ambition to earn with the intention of taking as much out of you as they possibly can, then there will be very few disappointing experiences.
There is a member from mumbai who posted in the general india section under Santa3 and calling himself a sin city guide or a facilitator in Mumbai. I have no idea if he is reliable or if he can do more than a taxi driver and what he charges but maybe you want to consider.
Hotels
Basically any taxi driver or hawker (Though hawkers who get in touch with you on the street are much more difficult to negotiate with and far more pushy, so a frist timer is better off with a taxi driver) who is into this field (and there are countless of them) can show you dozens of girl-friendly hotels. (In regard of Mumbai I should not have mentioned Hotel Celeste as compared to Hotel Blue Bird it is a run down place.)
A girl-friendly Hotel does NOT mean a hotel for fucking only or a pick-up joint with a bar downstairs and rooms/Hotel upstairs. A hotel with a bar does not mean you meet a girl in there unless it is a bar mainly for this purpose. The Hotel bars I have encountered were usually pretty empty and at best you can chat to the waiter and ask if they can do anything for you. Girl-friendly Hotels simply means that these hotels allow you to bring guests from outside. Some do and some don’t. Some are very strict and some are not. If you do not ask and act as if you think it is birth-right to bring a girl inside they may not mention a word.
You can take a hooker to hotels on hourly basis (which are usually lower standard). The hooker, the pimp, or the taxi driver will know an alternative if you cannot take her back to your own hotel. Several hotels where you can take women on hourly basis and normal girl friendly hotels are somewhere written in the forum. If you do not want to rely on third persons there is nothing illegal by calling any hotel before you travel to India and ask straigth away if it is allowed to bring guest from outside or your indian “girl-friend” inside.
Locations, Prices, Tips and Fraud
In 99 % of all brothels you can bargain. If you don’t, others pay more as well and you have paid 20-30% more for nothing.
Negotiate one session with the pimp and negotiate the second fuck with the girl inside. Sometimes for free and sometimes you pay the girl some tip. That is usually cheaper for you and better for the girl.
You do not need to tip the girls but of course it is welcomed and 10 % will do. Noone will insist if you do not want.
If you like the girl ask for her mobile number and if you would meet her again with the pimp cut out her rates should be 30-50 % less than the price you have initally fixed with the pimp.
Do not pay more than 200 Rs. commission to a street-hawker. If you did not fix any agreement before expect to make big effort to shake him off. For them 50 Rs. is money and they go long ways for it. If they have annoyed you with his selection, you might as well shed out 10-100 Rs. take the next risksha and get out of his sight as soon as possible and he will not follow you.
The taxi-driver, though of course always denying, will possibly get commission from the place to where he is taking you and he earns by paying the taxi fare. So there should be no extra request unless you like to tip voluntarily.
Lot of people in India working their ass off for 2000-3000 Rs. or 50-70 US$ (taxi-driver salary in big city india) per month, so consider that when you are giving out tips or when you are happily mentioning you are paying 200-300 USD/night for your five-star hotel. If you present yourself rich, expect to pay the highest prices and attract the highest degree of greed.
Table-Dance Bars or Pick-Up Discos are to my mind medium risk in terms of hassle and fraud. As in the forum there are mixed reports. Often these places are referred to as to be more pushy and too many other people around to push you or to present ridiculous charges. Acoording to Yogesh who posted a recent report in the mumbai section they are the places to find the better quality.
Resident brothels are usually low risk in terms of fraud or hassle (Besides the service charge 30-100 Rs.) if they are not raided by the time you are there.
Trying to make hookers contacts through internet in India is with high fraud risk. 100 % loss of money insured with bombaysexguide.
Rob,
Excellent synopsis of what you can expect in India. Nothing much to add to that except a couple of things. As far as myself is concerned I can do much much more than a cab driver. And i think i have got enough reviews to substantiate my claim. Just one other thing it is not safe for a foreigner to go to any of those hotels which charges by the hour. All these hotels attract raids. And if you get caught the Lord help you. You will be down at least 50 - 100 $. Because you wont be able to prove that you know the female and that sex is by mutual consent. Which is what we locals do if caught in a raid. In which case all they can do is file a case and present you before court and you are absolved of all charges. So it is better in todays scenario to take the girl back to your hotel. And as you said "Walk in with the female as if it's your right to do so" the hotel guys will not have the balls to stop you.
Love Taipei
01-03-05, 11:15
60 Minutes ran a piece on an Indian female movie star last night dubbing her the most beautiful woman in the world. She was quite pretty but extremely arrogant. She will now soon make Hollywood movies. In India, she will not do kissing scenes, asked if she will in H-Wood, she said "we will cross that bridge later".
Anyone know about this star?
Any skeletons in her closet?
60 Minutes ran a piece on an Indian female movie star last night dubbing her the most beautiful woman in the world. She was quite pretty but extremely arrogant. She will now soon make Hollywood movies. In India, she will not do kissing scenes, asked if she will in H-Wood, she said "we will cross that bridge later".
Anyone know about this star?
Any skeletons in her closet?This star is Aishwarya Rai, whose pics can be seen in kakiseks.com
60 Minutes ran a piece on an Indian female movie star last night dubbing her the most beautiful woman in the world. She was quite pretty but extremely arrogant. She will now soon make Hollywood movies. In India, she will not do kissing scenes, asked if she will in H-Wood, she said "we will cross that bridge later".
Anyone know about this star?
Any skeletons in her closet?This star is Aishwarya Rai, whose sexy pics can be seen in www.kakiseks.com
LT,
I did not see that piece, but I am guessing it is Aishwerya Rai (sp). She was the former miss universe (world?). She is beautiful. As for skeletons, everyone's got some.
guess you are talking of aids here. granted that aids does not spread thru' saliva, tears etc. however the risk of other diseases like gonnohrea and syphllis are always present if you are going for a bbbj. i used to have bbbjs many times from multiple sws before a sw gave me gonnohrea. she had no visible marks anywhere and looked quite healthy overall. we had the shower/cleanups ..the usual precautions etc..but this was of no use.
i had to face embarassing situations at work/home (yea it smells real bad)..and the puss oozes out like hell. was on medication for a month. so guys please be careful. i am not trying to spoil the fun here. but a little restraint goes a long way.
the following "bodily fluids" are not infectious:
saliva
tears
sweat
[CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113)
[CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109)
(source: san francisco aids foundation)
http://www.aids.org/info/faqs.html#oralsex
mate get your facts strieght or you just perpetuate the myths. you can not get aids from saliva. but you can get it from cuts or sores in the mouth if the man has aids and ejaculates, hence potentially giving aids to the woman or if the man has an open sore on his penis and the woman has blood from sores or gums.
sorry to hear about your incident and your girlfriend.
contiue the education
editor's suggestion: this is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the safe sex topic in the special interests section of the forum where it will benefit the forum members who are specifically looking for this type of information. thanks!
Chili Palmer
04-05-05, 08:38
Can some Hindi-speaking monger post a glossary for us? Words and phrases that might come in handy for our hobby, but which don't show up in the standard traveller's dictionary?
Thanks in advance,
Chili
Grand Pollo
04-11-05, 23:48
Was on medication for a month. So guys please be careful. I am not trying to spoil the fun here. But a little restraint goes a long way.
Some doctor you have: Here is the actual required treatment for GH, courtesy CDC (note except for Doxy for a week for Chlamydia, which is likely to be present):
I take 500 Mg Levofloxacin on my final day any mongering location.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends the following medications for adults and children over 99 lb(44.9 kg).
Ceftriaxone 125 mg IM Single dose (needle - ouch)
Ciprofloxacin 500 mg orally Single dose
Ofloxacin 400 mg orally Single dose
Levofloxacin 250 mg orally Single dose
Medication added if chlamydia is also present
Azithromycin 1 g orally Single dose
Doxycycline 100 mg orally twice a day 7 days
Spectinomycin 2 g in a single IM dose is an alternative medication given to people who cannot take the cephalosporin and quinolone medications recommended above.
A Diploma in Sex Trade? That will be among the several qualifications on offer when a government-sponsored school for prostitutes opens in the capital on Friday.
The move to encourage sex workers who are fully trained in their craft comes just days after the US threatened to impose sanctions unless the administration did something to regulate the flesh trade in the country.
Giving details of the scheme, Kamal Kishore, spokesperson for the Ministry of Human Resource & Development says only those who received training at the Institute for Carnal Studies (ICS) would be granted a license to operate legally. The government, he claims, would be providing the best infrastructure possible at the Institute.
"We have decided to hire sex workers with at least 10-12 years of experience as teachers. They will give students a first-hand account of how they made their way in the trade. Besides modern-day porn, the Institute will also have lessons from the Kamasutra so that lovemaking is pleasurable rather than being just about money," he says.
The girls will learn everything from seduction to handling finances. "It will be an honour to teach. Besides giving the girls useful tips about sex, we will also tell them how to seduce clients and extract maximum money. I am glad that the government is finally thinking about our needs," says Kamala, one of those on the ICS faculty.
While the Institute will offer a basic two-year degree programme for just Rs 2000, there will be advanced courses for those wishing to specialise as high-society call girls. With a growing demand for same-sex partners, ICS also has an option six-month crash course in 'Lesbian Relationships and Practices.' Special classes for gigolos could begin as early as next year.
"The students will get a lot of practical exposure. They will do a month-long internship in various red light areas of the country where they will practice what they have learnt. We also expect them to produce feedback from clients. The student who scores the highest in terms of client satisfaction will get a cash prize of Rs 1 lakh and also a chance to represent India at an international meet in Phuket, Thailand," says Kishore.
According to a senior official in the HRD Ministry, there could be a number of spin-offs from a bold initiative like this. "Look, we have failed to clamp down on prostitution despite our best efforts in the past. Doesn't it make better sense to open a school and bring the flesh trade out in the open? It will help us in many ways - first, prostitution will become a legitimate profession; the girls in the trade will no longer be looked down upon and ostracized from society. Second, ICS will produce highly trained individuals who will know all about safe sex, hygiene and the use of condoms. Our biggest hope is that the school will play a pivotal role in the fight against AIDS. Lastly, it is also our intention to eliminate pimps and others who exploit sex workers. Those found operating outside the purview of the ICS will be prosecuted," he says.
Application forms will be available from April 10 at select government offices. The forms can be also be downloaded from the ICS website (www.indianprostitute.org).
Source : http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7242_1301379,00180007.htm
Recently I made a trip to India and toured India quite a bit. Here are the details:
1. Departure from the US - Non-Indian passport holders do need Visas. The Visas can be obtained at any Indiam Mission and is a routine procedure.
2. Packed 2 suitcases with personal items, gifts, etc., a carryon, a Camcorder and a Laptop. Make sure to carry at least one quart of bottled water since you will get dehydrated due to the low humidity on the long flight.
3. The destination was Mumbai. Wore a suit and would advise others to do the same. Commands more respectability. In India, the clothes make the man.
4. Mumbai Immigration was quite efficient and professional. Indian officials do tend not to smile; this is mainly because of the culture and do not take this personally.
5. Baggage Claim was just like in the US - not good, but not bad either.
6. Indian Customs was quite efficient and professional. Luggage was screened for contraband; no question about the Camcorder or the Laptop.
7. Keep in mind, the flight arrives in the middle of the night. Once you are outside, be careful of the very aggressive taxi operators. Before, you know it, they have loaded your baggage in one of their cabs and will demand an exorbitant amount of money (in Indian terms). I would recommend a limo ride which can be arranged at the exit end of the terminal. Check into this.
8. Go to your hotel or wherever you plan to stay. To combat jetlag, do not sleep during the daytime.
9. Goodluck and enjoy yourself.
10 While I was in India, I visited Aurangabad (Ajanta & Ellora caves), Jaipur (Fort), Delhi, Ranthambhor (Tiger preserve), Khajuraho (Erotic Temples), Jammu, Dharamsala, Cochin, Munnar (tea estates), Kannur (Ayurvedic massage).
If any of you need any specific info about any of the places, please PM me.
Cecil Newbee
10-18-05, 10:44
I was recently in Delhi. I bought the Ayurvedic medicine Basant-Kusumakar Ras made by Shree Baldyanath, Jhansi. The description is Hindi. Can anyone tell me from the attachment files what the dosage is, and what side effects there might be? Many thanks.
Strong Bull
10-19-05, 15:57
Dear Cecil,
Ayurvedic System of Medicine has been prevalent for about 5 thousand years. However, it is advisable to take medication under a Ayurvedic 'Vaid' or a Doctor.
What you have is an all in one medicine of doubtful credentials. It is an all in one for Diabetese, Cardivascular, Renal, Memory, you name it ailments.
Caution is the word. It is however said that Ayravedic medicine such as these do no great harm except to your pocket. Unless ofcourse, it has a mix of steriods or Allopathic formulations, in it on the sly.
Again the word is caution.
Take care,
Strong
Companies like Baidyanath, Himalaya Drugs are pioneers and generally very safe and effective products. Rest assured you wont be taken for a ride.
We should all stop using the so called high class escorts and automatically their prices would come down and their pimps would chase us for business and not the other way round.They are all same between the legs, why give them class and increase their demand and the price. Bangkok is 4 hours and costs US$200 return,why not spend alternate weekend their and have your monies worth at least they are clean and satisfying and you dont across any pimps or pickpocketing or fraudsters.
BigthDikth
01-22-06, 04:03
hello all, in india you can get generic viagra under the brand names edegra, penegra, and silagra. it costs under 100 rupees per pill.
i am not in india but would like to buy some generic viagra. any of you know of a honest company that has a website that i can buy some gv from?
thanks in advance bd
i wont be able to give you website addresses but these pills are pretty good. i like penegra most. it makes you rock hard but i need to have only 1/4th! also next day hangover is really bad
when you take viagara, you feel like a zombie. your body lags behind brain mostly and sexual enjoyment is decreased but hardness is classic adult movies star like. white light appears magenta for time!
anyone else wanna share their experience.
hello all, in india you can get generic viagra under the brand names edegra, penegra, and silagra. it costs under 100 rupees per pill.
i am not in india but would like to buy some generic viagra. any of you know of a honest company that has a website that i can buy some gv from?
thanks in advance bd
Looking for information on train travel from Delhi to Katmandu Napal, any web sites ?
Thanks so much
Shamas O'Dognasty
There is no direct train service to Nepal from India. You can go up to Gorakhpur, Uttar Pradesh from Delhi. From there, you can take regular bus to Kathmandu. Or, you can go to Virgunj, cross the border on foot, or by bicycle Rickshaw, and then take bus on Nepal side.
All of the above are quite inconvenient, as border areas are not that safe at evenings or nights. It is much better to take a 45 min. flight from Delhi to kathmandu. There are at least 3-4 airlines competing for limited tourists. It is not that expensive, if booked at least 2 weeks before.
Kathmandu is connected by the railway yet. You can take a train from Delhi to Gorakhpur (check out www.indianrail.gov.in ; there are plenty of options) and pick a cab/ local bus for Sunauli (pretty run-down place with mostly truckers). Cross over the border into Bhaiwara which is much nattier and neater than the Indian side. From Bhaiwara, you can take any tourist bus/ taxi (depending on your budget) for Kathmandu - the road between Bhaiwara and Kathmandu is a treat, especially after the bumpy and dusty ride from Gorakhpur to Sunauli.
Hope that helps and have a safe and pleasant trip to Nepal.
Gos
Looking for information on train travel from Delhi to Katmandu Napal, any web sites ?
Thanks so much
Shamas O'Dognasty
Bowled Over
02-05-06, 15:47
Looking for information on train travel from Delhi to Katmandu Napal, any web sites ?
Thanks so much
Shamas O'Dognasty
No trains to Katmandu...but you can get close to Nepal by going to a station called Gorakhpur, which is close to the Nepal border.
Try www.indianrail.gov.in and the link which says "train between important stations"...
Better to fly from Kolkatta or Delhi.
Enjoy !
Bowled Over
Thanks guys for the info.
I went to Cambodia last year and there are a few web sites with very detailed reports on overland travel, I'm surprised at the lack of simular info on Napal.
I've read a few web sites on India and so far I'm not impressed by the amount of available info. N O T saying I'm not impressed by India, just the web sites don't impress me. Some of the Cambodia sites listed extensive reviews on hotel and resturants.
Well, looks like I have an opportunity to get a site started dedicated to the other things we have to have, a roof over our heads and nourishment beyond the big V or Micky Ds.
Again guys thanks
Shamas O'D
You can also enter into Nepal from Siliguri (Railway Station Name: New Jalpaiguri / Airport Bagdogra). One entrence point is just near to Siliguri via panitanki and the other is Near Mirik (near Darjeeling).
This is route will help you if you are want to touch Calcutta. From Calcutta it is overnight journey by trains or "Racket" buses.
Looking for information on train travel from Delhi to Katmandu Napal, any web sites ?
Thanks so much
Shamas O'Dognasty
In some countries you can see the forums with detailed info. But here in India it is not possible. If you post some information in public websites, the places will be raided by police quickly. So, normally people pass on info through PM mostly.
Thanks guys for the info.
I went to Cambodia last year and there are a few web sites with very detailed reports on overland travel, I'm surprised at the lack of simular info on Napal.
I've read a few web sites on India and so far I'm not impressed by the amount of available info. N O T saying I'm not impressed by India, just the web sites don't impress me. Some of the Cambodia sites listed extensive reviews on hotel and resturants.
Well, looks like I have an opportunity to get a site started dedicated to the other things we have to have, a roof over our heads and nourishment beyond the big V or Micky Ds.
Again guys thanks
Shamas O'D
The type of info I'm talking about concerns hotels, eating, transportation, city maps and so on. I'm well aware of the threats to the providers who service our wants, needs and desires.
I did find a great web site dealing with train travel which answered so many of my questions.
I've been on the official Indian tourism web site and IMHO it leaves much to be desired. It just doesn't have as much info as I expected.
I have a good idea about hotels but I feel each city on this board should have hotel and restaurant sections.
Thanks so much
Shamas
Just a quick rundown for those of you who have not yet made arrangements for a visa.
All foreign nationals, require a visa to enter India. If you do not hold an Indian Passport, you will need a visa to enter the country.
You can make an application for a visa to your nearest Indian Mission (embassy or consular office). Applications can be made in person or by post. You cannot apply for a visa when you arrive in India: make sure you arrange your visa before you travel.
Whichever country you are based in, the embassy will require the following:
1. Correctly completed application form in BLACK INK AND BLOCK CAPITALS.
2. Original passport. It must be valid for AT LEAST SIX MONTHS and have AT LEAST 4 FREE PAGES.
3. Correct visa fee, payable only in CASH or by BANK DRAFT.
4. Minimum of two passport-size photographs.
5. If you do not hold a passport for the country you are resident in, you must supply proof of residency (e.g. National ID Card, Driver's Licence). You are likely to be charged extra for your visa, and processing time may be longer (allow 3 weeks minimum).
Pakistani and Bangladeshi nationals need to apply on special application forms, and provide 5 passport-size photographs.
Applications in person are often dealt with on the same day. You need to arrive at the embassy before a certain time in the morning. Cut off times vary from embassy to embassy. If you have a straightforward case (e.g. you are applying for a Tourist Visa in your home country, and your application has no errors), then generally your passport and visa will be ready to collect the same afternoon. Some Missions require collection the following day, so you may need to make more than one journey to the embassy.
Applications by post are suitable when you live a considerable distance from the nearest Indian Mission. Many US citizens will find this to be the case. With postal applications, you should allow a minimum of 3 weeks for processing. You should send all relevant documents via recorded delivery. Make sure you put your name and address on the outside of the envelope. You will also need to include a pre-paid self-addressed envelope, which can be used to return your documents to you.
Tourist Visas
The Tourist Visa is a multiple entry visa valid for a period of 180 days, granted for the purpose of tourism. Visits to family and friends are covered by this visa. The six month Tourist Visa is valid from the date of issue. Tourist Visas can also be given for 3 months, but are gradually being phased out.
The general requirements are:
1. A correctly completed application form in BLACK INK AND BLOCK CAPITALS.
2. The applicant's original passport. It must be valid for AT LEAST SIX MONTHS and have AT LEAST 4 FREE PAGES.
3. Correct visa fee, payable only in CASH or by BANK DRAFT.
4. Two passport-size photographs.
5. If you do not hold a passport for the country you are resident in, you must supply proof of residency (e.g. National ID Card, Driver's Licence). You are likely to be charged extra for your visa, and processing time may be longer (allow 3 weeks minimum).
By the way, can anybody tell me how to enable BBCode? This report would be a lot neater if I could format it.
Cheers. :)
i thought ranbaxy's caverta was pretty good. got the 50ml tabs for about 80 rupees. i chose ranbaxy as they are the largest pharmaceutical company in india, and a lot of their stuff goes for export.
only ever took half or less than half at a time, otherwise the side effects are the flushes, and a cock that just won't go to sleep! never got 'hangovers' from it though.
i wont be able to give you website addresses but these pills are pretty good. i like penegra most. it makes you rock hard but i need to have only 1/4th! also next day hangover is really bad
when you take viagara, you feel like a zombie. your body lags behind brain mostly and sexual enjoyment is decreased but hardness is classic adult movies star like. white light appears magenta for time!
anyone else wanna share their experience.
In Coimbatore we are all of a sudden not getting the Indian versions of Cialis likeTadlafil, Tadalis, Apcalis etc. Also, they are claiming that Caverta, Penegra, Kamagra etc have stopped being manufactured. Is this true?
What is the situation in other cities like Bangalore, Chennai etc.
Not true. They are available. None of brands that you have said has stopped manufacturing.
Not true. They are available. None of brands that you have said has stopped manufacturing.That's interesting. I read something last year that India had signed a patent agreement which would spell the end of many generic drugs. But Viagra generics are such big business - who would seriously kill that cash cow?
If you’re going to monger in India, you’ll almost certainly need a mobile phone with you. However, the last thing you want to do is use your home network for calls, as you’ll waste a huge amount on roaming costs, when you could be spending it on pussy.
Indian cellular networks work under the GSM900 and GSM1800 standards. GPRS is also widely available. If you have a dual band phone that works in Europe (GSM1800) and in the UK (predominantly GSM900), then your mobile phone will work all over India. Delhi and most of Northern India is on the GSM900 standard, though some northern states run on GSM1800. If your current phone is compatible with these networks, make sure you bring it with you.
SIM cards are widely available throughout India, at shopping malls, markets and even at road stalls. It’s fairly easy to buy a SIM card, and they are very cheap – local calls and calls to other mobiles (within India) cost around USD 0.04 per minute. If you don’t own a GSM dual band phone, they are also widely available – a cheap one shouldn’t cost you more than USD 50.
Also note that if you have an India SIM in your phone, incoming calls, from any country, are free.
GUYS one more fraud I found at a chat site.
Please beware of this guy.
They wil ask u 50% payment advance so dont deposite OK.
ITS 100% Fraud
http://www.geocities.com/monika_callgirls_01/call.html
Happy Pussy Hunting.
Cheers
Well the mystery is solved friends..it is Savi :). The confirmation would have been the massage she gives...apart from her enthusiastic all inclusive fun in the bed...cheers to all those in Mangalore - Goa belt..Yes, the girl we are talking about gives an excellent massage, might put you to sleep :). I am not sure why is she saying that you need to provide an accomadation. When she used to visit Hyderabad, the charge was all inclusive of room too. I believe she must be staying there. That is something I am not able to figure out. By the way, JFS can you PM me her email id. I would like to check her.
BTW, if it's really Savi it's really a great news for fellow mongers at Goa and Mangalore. Enjoy!!! I can assure she was the most satisfying lady I have ever met in my life time. No offence met to anyone else though!
i thought ranbaxy's caverta was pretty good. got the 50ml tabs for about 80 rupees. i chose ranbaxy as they are the largest pharmaceutical company in india, and a lot of their stuff goes for export.
only ever took half or less than half at a time, otherwise the side effects are the flushes, and a cock that just won't go to sleep! never got 'hangovers' from it though.i tried caverta as the follwoing doses:
- 50 ml half tab
- 50 ml full tab
- 100 ml full tab
nothing happened!! i was horny anyway so i was able to do it 3 times, but i expected the pills to do at least something extra for me - it didn't!
i wonder if it was just me?
Hello mates!
I need your gr8 help to know about THis web site
www.dreamsndesires.com
Because I'm watching this website frm 2 yrs but still now I havant taken any services, In their photo gallary all are good model photo's are there! rate is also little high. But for quality PUXXSSY's are wanted every where...right
Kindly give me a feed back if any body uses this services
Thanks
sss forUWell, something is up with their membership login, a failed login redirects to a yahoo page: https://s.p3.hostingprod.com/@www.dreamsndesires.com/ssl/index.html
Anyone know why this would happen?
Chico Charlie 1
08-29-06, 07:58
Hi sss,
It is always better to use HT or TOI ads. The websites are never sure. Also with several webistes showing photos of the same girl, it is almost non-existant. Just they would provide females of any stuff who could pass of as a schoolgirl, housewife, model, TV actress etc. depending on the amount you wish to pay. I have known a professional who was friendly with me as I used to take his group for services regularly. His told me the tricks were to negotiate the prices as per the requirement of the client. The prices would be jacked up for the same girl who would be then passed on as a model or an actress. Suddenly a 3K girl would get 12K and it would be 60% for the pimp.
Still there may be some genuine websites as well. However, I believe in seeing the goods and negotiating with the option of sending the goods back without usage if not as per liking. It is always better.
Just my two bits
Have a nice time.
Charlie
Chico Charlie 1
08-29-06, 14:04
Dear Sss,
In addition to my earlier report of today, I would also like to add that as you have already paid as a member, it is not bad to try out some of them. Your feedback would be appreciated and if it really is good, some of us would add to the fold of membership.
Have a nice time
Charlie
I have seen that the reports from India are rather infrequent. In fact even the Srilankan reports are more interesting to read.
I hope some members do write more frequently and make this section exciting and also help all of us in the bargain.
I, for one,would be looking for information regarding females in Delhi having their own place, available during day times (not nights).
I have seen that the reports from India are rather infrequent. In fact even the Srilankan reports are more interesting to read.
I hope some members do write more frequently and make this section exciting and also help all of us in the bargain.
I, for one,would be looking for information regarding females in Delhi having their own place, available during day times (not nights).Look, my friend - the reason is simple: India is a wasteland for mongering. But moreover, some chaps here actually write something - but with no meaning to follow up. F. E. "I saw a girl at that bus sation and we went to the hotel and I shagged her until morning". Do you think anyone can - or will - follow up?
Then there is the other category of blokes, telling of their contacts. But if you ask then by PM, either they require advance payment or they show a quite strange way of communication - smell some scam.
Finally - poke on your own nose: seems from your style of writing that you are a local. Then, why not offering your contacts and expertise first? Guess why? There is none!
India is the only country in the world, where a free exchange of contacts is not availble: in India a brotherhood of mongers does not exist. Sad folks.
India is the only country in the world, where a free exchange of contacts is not availble: in India a brotherhood of mongers does not exist. Sad folks.The brotherhood is quite strong, but not everyone's welcome apparently :)
[QUOTE=Botaki6]Look, my friend - the reason is simple: India is a wasteland for mongering. But moreover, some chaps here actually write something - but with no meaning to follow up. F. E. "I saw a girl at that bus sation and we went to the hotel and I shagged her until morning". Do you think anyone can - or will - follow up?
Well Botaki
You are absolutely correct about India but the reason is there is hardly any organised scene here and cops are a pain. Then locals like me who stay with family are more free to monger during trips abroad to Thailand and Singapore than nearer home.
However reading back in this thread I am astonished to read your comments about budhwar peth in Pune. Now, I gather today you are in Pune. So go to Budhwar Peth but don't sit in the car--get out of it. Cab can only go to the main road which has only shops and offices.
You enter any side lane of the main road---it will lead you to serpentine rows of houses--like the windows of Netherland. Only here it is more disorganised--the girls come outside the houses and call out to you. I am talking about atleast 50 thousand girls in the area.
For better girls you have to enter the houses--they have big 'welcome' written on them and their lighting makes it apparent what they are. Best is no cops will trouble you.
The houses are upto 3 storied and you can go to the upper floors. The girls sit in a large drawing room seeing t. V. , sipping tea, eating paan. You can chose anyone---no rip off.
Come on venture out---sitting in Taj will not get you the girl. If you are still not able to find the bylanes--just ask any paan shop---which way to the kothas?
I agree with everything you say about India but if you are not able to get a fuck in budhwar peth, Pune then all your mongering experience has come to nought.
All the best.
[QUOTE=Botaki6]I agree with everything you say about India but if you are not able to get a fuck in budhwar peth, Pune then all your mongering experience has come to nought.
All the best.Balanced view my friend. I'll give it another try following your hints - sure - I was never afraid of any adventure.
The "best" scene I found was in Sonargagi (sp?) Kolkata. Clean and without hassles - but the ladies un-inspirational. Just pure service providers..and for that overpriced comparing to countries with a similar low GDP.
I'm not sure if the police is the real problem. In many countries police is fighting the endless battle against P4P. In India I feel it's more the attitude of the pimps. Every little idiot near girl-houses is asking for his cut. They are the real pain in the ass and most likeley also hands-on against their "slaves" Same refers to possible "providers" of the so called high-class girls: asking for 5..or 10.000 Rps upfront with no comittement to deliver..
Yes - I also would every monger suggest to safe the money for a cheap ticket to Bankok or any other place and then enjoy.
Hi Friend,
Thank you for your report on the situation at Budhwar Peth. Can you give more light on the situation on Budhwar Peth for the information of mongers from outside?
(a) even though you have not mentioned, I doubtl there will be more pimps than the girls.
(b) What is the cost involved for the better ones and can we reach them without pimps?
(c) Last what about the service levels?
Thank you.
Raj
[QUOTE=Botaki6]Look, my friend - the reason is simple: India is a wasteland for mongering. But moreover, some chaps here actually write something - but with no meaning to follow up. F. E. "I saw a girl at that bus sation and we went to the hotel and I shagged her until morning". Do you think anyone can - or will - follow up?
Well Botaki
You are absolutely correct about India but the reason is there is hardly any organised scene here and cops are a pain. Then locals like me who stay with family are more free to monger during trips abroad to Thailand and Singapore than nearer home.
However reading back in this thread I am astonished to read your comments about budhwar peth in Pune. Now, I gather today you are in Pune. So go to Budhwar Peth but don't sit in the car--get out of it. Cab can only go to the main road which has only shops and offices.
You enter any side lane of the main road---it will lead you to serpentine rows of houses--like the windows of Netherland. Only here it is more disorganised--the girls come outside the houses and call out to you. I am talking about atleast 50 thousand girls in the area.
For better girls you have to enter the houses--they have big 'welcome' written on them and their lighting makes it apparent what they are. Best is no cops will trouble you.
The houses are upto 3 storied and you can go to the upper floors. The girls sit in a large drawing room seeing t. V. , sipping tea, eating paan. You can chose anyone---no rip off.
Come on venture out---sitting in Taj will not get you the girl. If you are still not able to find the bylanes--just ask any paan shop---which way to the kothas?
I agree with everything you say about India but if you are not able to get a fuck in budhwar peth, Pune then all your mongering experience has come to nought.
All the best.
Well Rajarao,
I do not remember any pimps approaching us during atleast 4 visits to budhwar peth. The madams incharge used to be inside the room only. The desperate girls used to come and bare their tits or even lift up their skirts.The older or uglier the female ,more she would expose.
The younger and better girls would stick inside the rooms. Looks wise wide variety--from Bihar,Nepal, Maharashtra and Kerala. I used to like the duskier girls --more passionate. I do not remember seeing any punjabis infact.The girls were mostly attractive but not well educated. The action was mostly missionary and hurried. The rate then used to be 11 bucks--late 1970s but I gather from Daftfuzz's report that he now paid 200 bucks for that level of girls. He has also written that fresh girls costing upto 1500 rs are also available.
One can take the girls out .
However, I feel that the independent call girls in Pune are better than the girls of budhwar peth. Some 4 years back,I was on the e-mail list of an agency which was Pune based and used to send me photos and details of girls available in Pune. Some great educated young girls were available for 5 k a night. Since I never visited Pune and did not use their service,they stopped posting to me. Unfortunately, I did not save the details of that contact but I think I found it using the paid option of the kamasutra site.The standard of those girls was deluxe and I would not mind paying upto 15 k for a night if I can get hold of one of them. If I ever find the details I will let you know.
I agree to every bit of what Adhin has said. There are hardly any pimps there. It's a meat-mart. A supermarket. No over the counter sales people there. You just walk to the aisle that has what you want, and you pick it up, put it in your shopping bag, pay and use ! :)
...and I would not mind paying upto 15 k for a night if I can get hold of one of them. If I ever find the details I will let you know.
...couldn,t make it as my stay was cut short to 1 night only. But be back to Pune in Oct...will certainly try my luck!
To go on here in the general section on facilities all over India, perhaps our local investigators may chip in to create a listing of "walking streets" in India.
To me, known areas are:
Mumbai: Fakland Road
Pune: Budhwar Peth
Kolkata: Sonargachi
Now, what about all of the other bigger towns like Delhi, Chennai, Nagpur, Bangalore, Hyderabad..name it. Any input here to complete our database?
And also, if there's a professional pimp here on the board, I am convinced he may be able to make a good cut for honest service by international standard for sending service gals to the hotel room. Preconditions are:
-there shall be a pic - can be faceless- of the gal through e-mail provided.
-the gal shall come direct to the room of the hotel, namely 4 or 5 star places
-the payment will be made direct to the gal
-if the gal is not acceptable, then a local taxi fare (200Rps) will be given.
BUT - sorry - 15.000 Rps as you are prepared to pay, is out of any discussion. For that amount (350.-US$) one can get in a country with a similar GDP like Phillipines or Cambodia a Virgin girl. Even in Japan or Korea I pay less for an escort. Consider, the fee shall reflect the economical situation in the country. A good sectretary may have an income of 10.000 Rps a month= 200 $. 100$ should be the ultimate escort fee - comparable with similar countries like China.
Otherwise better buy a tiket to Bangkok......
Hi Guys,
May be travelling to India soon from Europe. Just wondering if I need to get jabs and if so which ones.
Thanks
D
Hi Guys,
May be travelling to India soon from Europe. Just wondering if I need to get jabs and if so which ones.
Thanks
DYes --typhoid,hepatitis A. Also start ant-malarial pill before coming.
Creature Comfort
10-06-06, 08:49
Hi,
I have 2 hand luggages full of clothes that I wish to keep in Pune, or Mumbai even, for long periods of time like several months. Are there any lock up storage places around? Any in a hotel/airport that would have my luggage for this length of time?
The idea is to avoid carrying so much on my trips to India whenever I'm flying. As one can only carry so much cos of restrictions in carry-on luggages etc. Really need advice soon as I'm travelling to Pune next week.
Oct-Dec I'll be in Pune, any devotees are welcome for a meet up.
Shivaji Maharaj
10-27-06, 14:27
I hope your suitcase are strong made to suit the government cloakroom in Pune and Mumbai. The poor conditions of it and the amazing number of rats.
But I guess you would not request it manage by your own with a reliable fellow to keep it.
i have found a lady from a well known asian dating site.
after two days we were talking of meeting, and have arranged to do so in early december.
she explains that she lives with her parents and is longing to loose her virginity. firstly i am no adonis, and 48 years old, she is in her late twenties.
am i opening myself up to a possible problem with the lady (false [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) charge) or am i being teased by a frustrated lady.
secondly as i have no experience of indian ladies am i opening myself up for big problems with her culture, is she expecting more than a lover?
any advice good or bad is appreciated.
budgie, it all depends on which website you have browsed. the only ones that you can trust is indiatimes and indianfriendfinder. if that be the case, you will more or less be ok. have a meeting in an open place and take it ahead from there. the possibility of crying [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is less. it is always better if you befriend a localite who knows what you are doing. this, just in case u get conned. anyother websites, the possibility of ripoff is strong. and any indian woman who has access to internet and puts herself up for cyber dating, will not be having anything other than sexual related things in mind. so u can rest easy on the cultural front.
Thanks Santa3,
I am arriving on monday (11th) for 6 weeks and I am seriously looking to have several experiences with ladies in India.
Only safe sex.
I would like to meet the younger college ladies and would be prepared to meet the higher class escorts ladies.
If anyone here has a reliable contact for College girls I would be very greatfull.
How hard is it to hook up non-pro pussy in India?
She explains that she lives with her parents and is longing to loose her virginity. Firstly I am no adonis, and 48 years old, she is in her late twenties.If something seems to good to be true, it usually is. Re-read your own statement above, and tell me what you think!
How many 20-somethings do you know that want to lose their virginity with firstly, a perfect stranger, and secondly someone old enough to be their father?
You're either talking with a professional (which isn't so bad, considering) or you're setting yourself up to be ripped off. Keep your eyes open. :-)
How hard is it to hook up non-pro pussy in India?
Easier than most think, but harder than it is in the west. For the most part it takes a greater time investment, and being introduced through the right crowd certainly helps.
Casual sex in the way of one-night stands are uncommon. Having said that, sex with a non-professional is emminently doable if you have even a little time to invest, and is getting easier with each passing year.
Easier than most think, but harder than it is in the west. For the most part it takes a greater time investment, and being introduced through the right crowd certainly helps.
Casual sex in the way of one-night stands are uncommon. Having said that, sex with a non-professional is emminently doable if you have even a little time to invest, and is getting easier with each passing year.How hard are we talking here? Hard as in you have to speak the language and stay for like a year or change religion or something?
Just give an example.
[QUOTE=Aurangzeb]Easier than most think, but harder than it is in the west. QUOTE]
I am visiting India for 14 days in June, and am interested in the same topic. I dont want to find non-professional girls per se. But I would love to find the semi-pro types that f*ck to make ends meet. Can you pick these girls up in bars or cafes or malls in the same way you can in Latin America? Exchange cell numbers and meet up later?
I guess what I am looking for is akin to a place like Brazil. I can go and find a working girl anytime I want in the newspapers, online, at a parlour, on the street, or in a nightclub. But in places outside of Rio, I've found girls in malls, cafes, stores, etc. as well that are less hardcore (and some freebies)...I do speak Portuguese and Spanish.
In a place like Mumbai, is the same opportunity available? Or would I be relegated to finding p*ssy in the red-light district. And what about cities like Bangalore and Chennai...how easy is it to find P4P in those cities for a foriegner like me? What about some of the beach cities? Is it worth checking out dating sites and chatting with girls for weeks beforehand?
monger 3,
you have to forget / unlearn latin america when you come to india. what you want is just not happening regularly. yes there are college going lower middle class girls who frequent malls / discos, with the intention of hoping to make good money quickly to take care of their cosmetics and other peer group things. else they feel that they dont fit in with the rest. but this is not an organised sector. and we are looking at a minimum amount of 110 usd for st. now the biggest problem of them all, there is no way for a non regular to identify them. because they dress just like everyone else their age does. they seamlessly fit in with the crowd. but there are more chances of a foreigner getting such kinda pussy in the discos, as the least you will do is pay for her drinks and food, that too is acceptable for most girls. the trick is to look for girls who are w/o boys. and when you approach them and strike a decent rapport, you can tell that you are looking for a guide to show you around and that you would love it if she could do that. then take it from there. the only other option for you is to request the senior members to help you with service providers. the same applies to blr and chennai too. regards
Dear Mongers,
I have a question not related to sex scene for now. I have been offered Sales Manager job to be based here for 1 year before moving Middle East and the remuneration is only USD3,500 per mth. All other perks ie car, fuel, shared apartment, maid etcc will be provided.
What is the Sales Manager's pay here for expat from Asia and the salary offer sufficient? Otherwise, what is the average local Sales Manager of Industrial equipment gets in a month?
Pls adv.
Guy M,
Its a good deal. take it. Altough you could get about another 500 $. But still it is not bad at all.
regards
dear santa3,
to be more specifically, i'll be based in hyderabad and like many expat's, i'd like to reserve something like usd1,000 for food especially.
in m'sia, my daily expenses for food is abt rm30.00 or indian rupee 370.00. take this as an example for my budget.
kindly adv will ya? tks!
Dear Guy M,
You can get a cook (if not already provided by the company - in most cases they are) for about 35- 45 $ a month in HYD. You should not be set back by more than 800 $ even if you eat out (not 3 star hotels) with daily drinks.the best is to eat and drink at home. your m'asia budget is valid here too. 400 inr includes 2 meals and 3 round of indian blended whisky for a localite. Take it easy you are quite safe and will also be able to save a decent amount.
regards
for usd 1000(i.e. 45k per month, 1500 per day), you can have food at 3/5 star hotels everyday in hyderabad.
decent food in hyderabad will cost around 200-300 per day(or even lesser).
mistyboy
dear santa3,
to be more specifically, i'll be based in hyderabad and like many expat's, i'd like to reserve something like usd1,000 for food especially.
in m'sia, my daily expenses for food is abt rm30.00 or indian rupee 370.00. take this as an example for my budget.
kindly adv will ya? tks!
Dear Santa3,
It is clear now. Cheers Mate!
Dear Fellow mongers,
Is any one seen this website and I appriciate if you give me it is genune or?
Please share your experience.
http://www.tour69.com/sisters.html
Happy and safe hunting
Sss forU
Dear fellow mongers
Today on yahoo chat I got this link: http://www.slook.9k.com/
This person claims he provide call girls at 3k and he want advance payment, so be alert and don't loose your money.
His chat id is sonia_sharma_00014
Have good luck and safe hunting
Sss forU
Dear mongers,
Could someone advice me some hotels in Mumbai with conditionning air (I'll go in summertime), decent food (I have fragile stomach), and of course close to the action. Price no more than $100 if possible.
Decent girl : no less than $100 in massage parlour?
Punteroid,
I can help u but apparently you dont have PM. So cant as am not going to put such info in public.
This isn't a report but a request for info/advice on taking a 7 month old baby to live in Bombay is ok, whilst I work on a project there for 6-10 months. I've worked in India 10 years ago but at that time I was on my own. I'm not allowed to post a new string for some reason (?)
Punteroid,
I can help u but apparently you dont have PM. So cant as am not going to put such info in public.Santa, I just ask for comfortable hotels less than $100 / night, and where are the best places to be. I think you can put this info in public.
Maybe if I don't find enough good infos, I'll subscribe to the PM and contact you.
Thanks
Don't post new string, add new report.
This effort is to intimate other fellow mates that advts given in the name of maria john an indpendent escort is fake. She is cleverly using her indentity as a executive working in a reputed hotel or a airhostess or a vj and each time she dupes us with lot of analytical emails of how she is better than the rest. She says deposit of 50% is mandatory as the same is for assurance and booking her own flight tickets and room in a luxury hotel and she prefers to spend overnight for somethg like 20k inclusive of all. She never leaves her account detials anywhwere and the moment you transfer the funds she is done with. I had transfered funds in name called pooja nair an icici account and that she claims as her friends. But I guess the nexus is bigger and theres more to this. I have been abused when called up or she never attends the call. But her ip addresses have been traced and she keeps moving around or the person who replies the mail uses a reliance infocomm connection and most probably connects using a laptop. Well she has forged her advts in different websites and for heavens sake never ever pay the advance and I rests assured you would be cheated just like me.
Please never ever make advance deposits when an escort may look however convincing. I am takin up the case with the cyber cell and yes the frauds would be traced down soon. I haev ample evidence and I guess she would be behind bars sooner are rlater. But I request no other monger ever get duped for money.
Cheap Meat
12-05-07, 01:41
is this true? what do these girls look like? and what if i wave a bundle of ruppees in a waitresses' face? i'm also looking for freelancers! are those types of girls available? i hate using condoms, so i want to screw non-pros.
now, i only have $80 usd a day to spend, so i'm looking low end here. i'll need to find some cheap digs too (around $10 a night or so). can't wait to get to india. i'm just dying to shag some indian girls!
thanks!
cheap meat
Nanga Nachi
12-09-07, 09:08
$2 pussy, comes with a package "fs+std's"
is this true? what do these girls look like? and what if i wave a bundle of ruppees in a waitresses' face? i'm also looking for freelancers! are those types of girls available? i hate using condoms, so i want to screw non-pros.
now, i only have $80 usd a day to spend, so i'm looking low end here. i'll need to find some cheap digs too (around $10 a night or so). can't wait to get to india. i'm just dying to shag some indian girls!
thanks!
cheap meat
Ok and for my next question.
How promiscious are the indian non-pro girls?
My friend from India tells me they never have sex and stay pure virgins till they are married. I even read that Shilpa Shetty is still a virgin so I guess it must be true.
Thanks
Enigma84,
Thats load of crap that you've heard. Shilpa Shetty definitely is not a virgin and nor is her sister. The girls here these days are experimenting with sex from the age 13 onwards.
Expert Linguist
12-29-07, 12:05
is this true? what do these girls look like? and what if i wave a bundle of ruppees in a waitresses' face? i'm also looking for freelancers! are those types of girls available? i hate using condoms, so i want to screw non-pros.
now, i only have $80 usd a day to spend, so i'm looking low end here. i'll need to find some cheap digs too (around $10 a night or so). can't wait to get to india. i'm just dying to shag some indian girls!
thanks!
cheap meatit is rather sad that you have very little money to spare for your pleasure time. i am a foreigner here and let me tell you that i have seen no waitresses even in places where the obvious reason for customers coming in is a good time with a willing woman. all "waiting" jobs are by men here. if you wave money in their faces they may find you pussy which will cost you at least twenty dollars in really seedy places, and maybe up to fifty in most.
having sex without condoms is so risky that no "commercial" woman would agree to do that with you. anyone who would is either downright careless or already has a whole range of stds as someone else has suggested.
in summary, if you want to spend only two bucks, you could spend that money at a cyber cafe and watch porn sites with your headset on, and hope that you have a dark enough corner and enough kleenex to get yourself off with a hj.
Hi any body are familier with this fun club? is is genune ?
She posted this link on faceparty
www.faceparty.com/riakhatri222
I appriciate your feed back
SssforU
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Expert Linguist
12-30-07, 17:11
Hi any body are familier with this fun club? is is genune ?
She posted this link on faceparty
www.faceparty.com/riakhatri222
I appriciate your feed back
SssforUThis promises so many things, doesn't it? And the so-called testimonials from "happy members" beckons the unsuspecting. Anyway, I should know in a few days how genuine this is, having signed up for it and also written to the email address that has been provided on the website.
Stay tuned. Anything to help fellow mongers.
P.S.: Your picture files in the gallery are very interesting too. Thank you.
Enigma84,
Thats load of crap that you've heard. Shilpa Shetty definitely is not a virgin and nor is her sister. The girls here these days are experimenting with sex from the age 13 onwards.Well, not according to her.
On BIG BROTHER TV show she claimed she was still a virgin and has never been fed a sausage before in her life.
Anyway is it easy to meet and bed non-pros in that country?
Enigma84,
It is hard in the beginning, but once you give it time and get the hang of it, it's pretty easy. It takes time because of the culture thing. But once into it, you can easily as a white guy pick up non pros.
regards
Hi,
This is a new guy here. I have been reading your reports a lot and decided to act upon them. This report is just a recount and might sound boring to some of you seniors, sorry!
Last Friday I went to atahisar as it was being mentioned a lot. However I didn’t got to the immediate ones after check naka. There is one orchestra bar ‘Meera’, immediately after the Meera Bhayinder junction signal, to the right side. I went there around 9:30 and stayed till 1:30. Good place
Girls 5-6/10
Beeer 200 bucks
I called the waiter and he quoted 2k for ST, inclusive of room. We settled at 1300 and took one good looking girl. The rooms are on the top, pretty decent and clean with quite friendly staff. Paid 200 to waiter and 50 to condom boy. Overall, pretty good place, good looking girls and friendly and easy. However girls are not very educated, mostly from Rasjasthan, and youcan’t expect much (she refused BJ even for money)
Monday, went to voodoo, another place mentioned quite often in this place. However, I was really at a loss to understand anything, as there is no middle man I guess. Girls were coming to all other guys except me!
Anyways, girls are good, a bit fat though, there were 5 Indian and 3 foreign chicks. Place is quite dim lit, so I guess the idea is to dance with any of the girls there and do whatever you want. Lots and lots of groping all around. I approached one girl but she said no. May be I m missing something here? !
Yesterday, went to two places in Dadar recommended by a senior here. First a salon opposite to Veesava Hotel, Dadar east. Only hair cut happened there, nothing else? I went at 8, may be too early?
Then went to another place called Tandoor. It’s an orchestra bar opposite to Badal bijili, (now known as start city). Now, this place is really strange. Girls there are a minimum of 8/10. Almost all of the line up was awesome, clean beautiful and well dressed girils. But the funda is the waiters don’t do middleman there. Basically you call a girl, give some money, and then she goes back!
People were giving 100, 50 bucks just for that. Still in my Dahisar mode, I called a stunning girl, gave 50 bucks and straight away asked her out. She behaves like I have insulted her, says I don’t go out, what makes you think that I am ‘that’ kind of girl!
Called another, but same thing, guess they just want money given to them and acc to the waiter if you throw in a lot of it perhaps they give you their no. And may be things go on from there. Asking it straight is a big NO.
There is another bar with the same profile right to the Dadar east station called Baywatch. I might check it tonight and let you guys know. Seriously, mongering is kind of very easy becasue of this forum, thanks to all of you guys who ever contributed to this forum.
Starchild2012
01-11-08, 22:16
hi,
this is a new guy here. i have been reading your reports a lot and decided to act upon them. this report is just a recount and might sound boring to some of you seniors, sorry!
last friday i went to atahisar as it was being mentioned a lot. however i didn’t got to the immediate ones after check naka. there is one orchestra bar ‘meera’, immediately after the meera bhayinder junction signal, to the right side. i went there around 9:30 and stayed till 1:30. good place
girls 5-6/10
beeer 200 bucks
i called the waiter and he quoted 2k for st, inclusive of room. we settled at 1300 and took one good looking girl. the rooms are on the top, pretty decent and clean with quite friendly staff. paid 200 to waiter and 50 to condom boy. overall, pretty good place, good looking girls and friendly and easy. however girls are not very educated, mostly from rasjasthan, and youcan’t expect much (she refused bj even for money)
monday, went to voodoo, another place mentioned quite often in this place. however, i was really at a loss to understand anything, as there is no middle man i guess. girls were coming to all other guys except me!
anyways, girls are good, a bit fat though, there were 5 indian and 3 foreign chicks. place is quite dim lit, so i guess the idea is to dance with any of the girls there and do whatever you want. lots and lots of groping all around. i approached one girl but she said no. may be i m missing something here? !
yesterday, went to two places in dadar recommended by a senior here. first a salon opposite to veesava hotel, dadar east. only hair cut happened there, nothing else? i went at 8, may be too early?
then went to another place called tandoor. it’s an orchestra bar opposite to badal bijili, (now known as start city). now, this place is really strange. girls there are a minimum of 8/10. almost all of the line up was awesome, clean beautiful and well dressed girils. but the funda is the waiters don’t do middleman there. basically you call a girl, give some money, and then she goes back!
people were giving 100, 50 bucks just for that. still in my dahisar mode, i called a stunning girl, gave 50 bucks and straight away asked her out. she behaves like i have insulted her, says i don’t go out, what makes you think that i am ‘that’ kind of girl!
called another, but same thing, guess they just want money given to them and acc to the waiter if you throw in a lot of it perhaps they give you their no. and may be things go on from there. asking it straight is a big no.
there is another bar with the same profile right to the dadar east station called baywatch. i might check it tonight and let you guys know. seriously, mongering is kind of very easy becasue of this forum, thanks to all of you guys who ever contributed to this forum.
enjoy, be careful with those baywatch girls in dader and other places ..they are real beauties but with very high demands and moods.....most of the people who spend money are from outside mumbai for a business trip..they comes once or twice every other month and spend a fortune on these girls..due to it..the girls have got status and they figured they don't even have to dance or go out to make millions..
most of these girls have admirer's around india, so they don't come easy..yet..there is always a posibility if you have money and time to kill..:)
if you visit the same place for more than 5 times on a regular basis :)....these statue girls will become as soft as gelly and be yours....they will smile at you and will give you numbers eventually and will sleep with you :) at the end.
if you are young and single..the more speed to you....
in the bar worlds too..nothing is impossible for a patient and persistant man :d
Master Yoda
01-30-08, 03:20
hi, i have laterly been feeling like taking a break from latin america and see some hotties in asia. i dont like oriental looking women so i decided to try india instead to see what its like. i hear many girls in india are pretty but i wanted to hear the opinion of the posters. of course not every woman is shilpa shetty but if there are atleast 7's and up thats good. i am looking for 7s and above for both pro and non-pro ventures. probably will stay for a 3 month holiday. any info.
thanks
I am an independent Housewife with silky skin and my curiosity and eagerness to see others enjoy themselves make me the best at what I do. I could be the girl next door so; I understand the importance of discreetness. I'm very open minded and enjoy trying new things. I'm 28 yrs old 107lbs 5'7" 36C-30-36, yes small but, GOOD come in small packages. I can come over or you may visit me. I am a great companion for any occasion! Whether you looking for a modest dinner date or a wild night on town, I will make it happen! I will make your come true, have no doubt about that! I am forward to meeting you! Call my manager SONU at [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]
EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to remove personal telephone numbers in the text. Please do not post personal telephone numbers in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you for this information directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. Thanks!
I am an independent Housewife with silky skin and my curiosity and eagerness to see others enjoy themselves make me the best at what I do. I could be the girl next door so; I understand the importance of discreetness. I'm very open minded and enjoy trying new things. I'm 28 yrs old 107lbs 5'7" 36C-30-36, yes small but, GOOD come in small packages. I can come over or you may visit me. I am a great companion for any occasion! Whether you looking for a modest dinner date or a wild night on town, I will make it happen! I will make your come true, have no doubt about that! I am forward to meeting you! Call my manager SONU at [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]Sanya, provide me your contact info, I am interested in meeting you.
PM Me
StopSmoking
06-14-08, 20:10
Just was curious to know weather any of the other members face this issue. I read the same problem in china reports and now I do face the same. "Page cannot be Displayed" This message comes up quite often now, is that just for me or for other Users also?
Jackson,
Is there any kind of maintenance happening in the server end or do we have to install any updates in the browser for the same?
King Prawn
06-18-08, 08:26
Hi Dude,
Nice to know that you have almost become Jacksons assistant.Anyways there are so many reports and so many pictures that one cant realy know if the images are fake or the reports are fake too. So why worry abt that so much. you are a senior member and im sure you will have the pm facilty.If in doubt pm him and get a few contacts check them out and then decide.Ims ure that will work well and will not wound any ones feelings.
Cheers
Jackson's way of warning people like you to post ONLY authentic material in here. It is just a warning prior to banning you.
Many others require this treatment, Jackson. You know who, of course. These teenagers come here and make a mess with their 'cooked up' contributions.
Adiwhatsup
06-18-08, 18:30
Sanya, provide me your contact info, I am interested in meeting you.
PM MeThese ads are all bull shit and they charge a lot of money and they might send you the profile and when you see the girl there might be a risk that you would vomit. eeeeeks.
I did a google search and tried three all of them were crap, they would tell a lot of stories and at the end of the day it is a turn down.
Probably you would be lucky, not all of them are like that i suppose, probably mine was a case of rotten luck.
Moral of the story be careful with these ads.
Greetings everyone,
After receiving several complaints over the past year, I reviewed Aganguly80's posting history.
In three years he has posted 56 "reports", all of which are criticisms about other forum members, and not one of them providing any actionable information.
Apparently he was one of the older members who were grandfathered into Senior Member status three years ago, and thus his BS was never subject to review.
Eventually, I'll eliminate all of these unqualified members.
Anyway, enough is enough.
Thanks,
Jackson
Going through the posts of Aganguly, he seemed to be a mentally retarded, sick asylum seeker. Good riddance.
Greetings everyone,
After receiving several complaints over the past year, I reviewed Aganguly80's posting history.
In three years he has posted 56 "reports", all of which are criticisms about other forum members, and not one of them providing any actionable information.
Apparently he was one of the older members who were grandfathered into Senior Member status three years ago, and thus his BS was never subject to review.
Eventually, I'll eliminate all of these unqualified members.
Anyway, enough is enough.
Thanks,
Jackson
Love The Ladies
07-27-08, 23:59
Born Loser, Santa,
Do I need to come back to India to make sure you guys are still having sex!
I went back 4 pages and was reading reports from 2006. What's up guys?
Anyhow, are the bars open yet? What about my favorite city of Pavel?
Love The Ladies
07-28-08, 00:09
Though it may be easier to have sex with Indian Non-Pro's, it still isn't like having sex in the west or in The Philippines.
4 years ago I had an Indian girl friend whom I had sex with. She still calls me from India about once a month hoping I will marry her. Its been 3 years since I saw her. She even claims she hasn't had sex since me. (I believe her)
In contrast, I go to Manila and within a week of being there, I have 2-3 girlfriends that I meet in the shops, hospitals, banks etc..... I still stay in touch with them for some webcam sex, yet they really don't expect marriage. They just like me and like having sex!!!
Love The Ladies
Expert Linguist
08-30-08, 14:32
We are adding too many "reports" to the nice pictures of Anita that BatWings sent (presumably from Bombay, though he did not say). Could we all add our comments in the appropriate city forum instead?
What would happen, otherwise, is that people would keep attaching BatWing's original report also, and that would make the Photo Gallery threads so long that we may need to scroll down several pages to see the pictures.
It would so convenient if the Photo Gallery forum had just photos, not several screens of people's comments. Also, where possible the members who post pictures could also add the name of the city the provider was, so that the comments could be added to the appropriate city's forums. That way anyone wanting to make contact for that specific city could make a request for contact details by PM to the member directly.
Any thoughts or comments?
Mr HumpYou
08-30-08, 15:24
We are adding too many "reports" to the nice pictures of Anita that BatWings sent (presumably from Bombay, though he did not say). Could we all add our comments in the appropriate city forum instead?
What would happen, otherwise, is that people would keep attaching BatWing's original report also, and that would make the Photo Gallery threads so long that we may need to scroll down several pages to see the pictures.
It would so convenient if the Photo Gallery forum had just photos, not several screens of people's comments. Also, where possible the members who post pictures could also add the name of the city the provider was, so that the comments could be added to the appropriate city's forums. That way anyone wanting to make contact for that specific city could make a request for contact details by PM to the member directly.
Any thoughts or comments?I totally second that. There are way too many comments in the pix forums. Need to put a tab on that.
Mr HumpYou
09-03-08, 14:34
"India Forum has the dubious distinction of having the most number of members attempting to post email addresses in the forum against the Forum's rules. ". Wow.- wasn't this supposed to happen sometime. LOL.
What surprises me more is that people are more than willing to spend Rs 900/- on booze, parties etc and yet still are hesitant to pay for the membership! Come on lads, its a very wise investment!
This appeared in the Madras thread, but since I thought it was general in nature I am responding here.
When you trade information to anyone on the Internet you are giving it away "no questions asked/answered", and with no guarantee against misuse. By exchanging information with fellow mongers, you find out whom you can trust quickly enough from the experiences following the exchange.
So what, in fact, is the issue you have in mind?
I don't know whether it is recommendable to share your contact details or more details to fellow members. In fact old members can guide me when to trust a member in the forum or when not for disclosing details (One can do on the basis of the type of report they post).
Any way in the past, I have done PM to many fellow mongers with contacts. What I generally do.. is that i ask the fellow monger when exactly he is planning to visit or contact the provider and also by what name. Once I get the date, time and name; I call up my provider for same and give him all the details.
Yes, this do cost me a phone call and my time; but it's very minuscule as compared to the trust, contact and help I get from the fellow member.
Cheers and Safe mongering,
Babaji
Luckyguy7198
09-24-08, 21:52
When you trade information to anyone on the Internet you are giving it away "no questions asked/answered", and with no guarantee against misuse. By exchanging information with fellow mongers, you find out whom you can trust quickly enough from the experiences following the exchange.I'll second that.
I guess Babaji is just going the extra mile to keep his providers safe from snoopy agents.
Expert Linguist
09-29-08, 02:44
I do not want to get into an argument with you Slov.- because I have been reading up on some good stuff that you posted in the past.- I wanted to give my $. 02 and that's it.- I find it funny that you had to make me respond and 'rake' it up again.- anyway, your point is noted and if it makes you feel slightly better, you can consider my last post as my way of thanking Jackson. You won't be hearing about this from me now on. Peace.Why rake this up again?
You could have helped by not raking up a report that was debated almost one year back, and by not adding it to the photo gallery pages!! Sorry, Linguist!!The pretty ones
Don't need to be out on the streets.
Trust me, I have had my share of fun in Bangalore, Coimbatore, Chennai, Mumbai, Delhi and Singapore.- the non-workers in India took my breath away. As always, YMMV and depends on what social strata you are dealing with. Just my $. 02.
Also wanted to thank Jackson for maintaining this (especially the Indian) forum clean.- I am a long time observer of your other cool forum as well.
Peace!
Are the majority of indian women ugly? Thats what i gather from this site.
More the 1billion indian and no pretty sexy ones.
Its really sad!
JustSumFun
10-12-08, 11:58
I have noticed some guys posting really awesome pictures of the girls they interview ( ;) ) and obviously it is exciting to see such pictures. All to the good. BUT!!!!!
Are we not exposing the girls to a lot of anxiety and stigma? We must remember that we are in India. And in India sex is not something which is openly exhibited as say for instance in Amsterdam. There you can take a girl to the park and jump her bones in sight of the whole world and no one will object. But in India a kiss on the lips is frowned upon.
So why do we expose these girls,who are providing service to the mongering fraternity, to harrassment from her neighbours. I am sure that these girls dont just crawl under a rock after they service us. They must be going some place that they call home. I am sure that whichever place they call home will have Cyber cafes too.
What am I getting at? Well there are lots of young guys who like porn. Dont we all? And if one young guy stumbles across this forum ( I wager many already have) and sees the picture of a girl who looks familiar. His thought processes will be "Wow isnt that Suhila/Renu/Asha etc. Wow She is naked.
Wow what lovely hooters. Wait till I tell the others. show this to all my buddies. Wow I am going to get her r else I will tell her (husband/brother/father etc) She will have to give me nookie." And then the blackmail will start until some other group stmbles upon these pictures.
These guys are hypocrites and they will probably get her to move out of the neighbourhood. The witchhunts will start.
Do we really want these girls to go through all that? Is it too much trouble to hide their faces? Look at pictures posted by Bat Wings. He has made sure the face is not visible.
Grow up guys. Take care of the good contacts you have. Enjoy with them. Posting pictures is great. But let's keep our wits about us. Dont go over board.
Just my 0.02 cents
Any brickbats are welcome. But on the forum. Not on the pm.
JSF
Expert Linguist
10-12-08, 12:06
Dear JSF,
You are the "mostest". You could not have out it any better. The least anyone can do is to post the pictures with the faces cropped or otherwise hidden. How could we all respect these wonderful providers of a "valuable" service?
Cheers ... EL
I have noticed some guys posting really awesome pitures of the girls they interview ( ;) ) and obviously it is exciting to see such pictures. All to the good. BUT!!!!!
Are we not exposing the girls to a lot of anxiety and stigma?
Do we really want these girls to go through all that? Is it too much trouble to hide their faces? Look at pictures posted by Bat Wings. He has made sure the face is not visible.
JSF
Maverick49
10-18-08, 16:05
i wantt to know, if i subscribe, will the same be charged in dollars or indian rupees.
never subscribed to any site so the question.
secondly, how will the transaction reflect in my statement.
thirdly, i hope there is no auto renewal or any cr card fraud here.
senior membs please advise.
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hi maverick49,
please read the subscription faq.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-subscriptions.php?
1. your card will be charged in your local currency.
2. the charge will be in the name of a fake charity.
3. there is no auto renewal. subscriptions can only be renewed manually by you.
thanks,
jackson
There is absolutely no credit card fraud from Jackson's side of the transaction. I can vouch for that. He has answered all your other questions.
Thirdly, I hope there is no Cr Card fraud here.
I’ve been around since the days of the old World Sex Guide. That forum finally died, and was resurrected by Jackson. He bore the full cost of the forum for a long time, until he could no longer afford to do it single-handed. He has always been above reproach, and all serious mongers owe him a debt of gratitude for give us a place to share our experiences.
There is absolutely no credit card fraud from Jackson's side of the transaction. I can vouch for that. He has answered all your other questions.In a sector where credit card fraud and auto renewal are the norm, it is worth emphasizing that Jackson's business practices are beyond reproach.
Amazingly the activation of PM took just a couple of minutes! I was under the impression that it usually takes days if not weeks (as said by some fellow mongerers in the forum).
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Hi Play Pal,
I have no idea where you heard that it "usually takes days if not weeks" to get a subscription activated, because we activate new subscriptions and subscription renewals every day, without fail, 365 days a year.
Subscriptions sent by snail mail do sometimes take up to two weeks to be received, forwarded to me in South America, and then activated, but it's snail mal, so what did you expect?
Thanks,
Jackson
Expert Linguist
11-01-08, 02:25
The recent experience posted by Do It I and the flurry of sympathetic and advisory responses are of interest to mongers in all areas of India (and also other countries, for sure). Do our fellow-members here believe that we could shift the discussion to the General Info section, or whether a new thread exclusive to STDs should be created?
By doing so, we could focus the city threads for mongering reports and use the other thread for STDs and similar topics of general interest.
Be safe and happy mongering!
Hi Maveric,
I am in Sydney and have used credit card to pay for the subs. Absolutely no problem in using. Jackson has full integrety as would not hesitate to recommend to anyone.
Cheers
Expert Linguist
11-05-08, 07:55
So how is it that you do not have a current subscription, considering that you became a member of the forum only on July 31 this year? Just wondering.
I am in Sydney and have used credit card to pay for the subs. Absolutely no problem in using. Jackson has full integrety as would not hesitate to recommend to anyone.
Just happened to log on this morning and to find that you have joined your friend JSF as the two mongers here who have crossed 500 in reports count for the India forum. Just for the heck of it I read a lot of your reports (both of you guys, and Santa's also) and I can see how helpful the insight that young blokes like us get about the mongering business in India and how you guys always seem to stay ever so cool and calm, even under serious provocation by some nitwits like us.
Here is a toast to you guys. Keep on guiding us. Thank you all.
Just happened to log on this morning and to find that you have joined your friend JSF as the two mongers here who have crossed 500 in reports count for the India forum. Just for the heck of it I read a lot of your reports (both of you guys, and Santa's also) and I can see how helpful the insight that young blokes lPlease accept my gratitude and wishesh for all 3 EL, JSF and Santa.
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Expert Linguist
11-21-08, 16:38
VRod, what I said was Visa Debit card. There are many types of debit cards (some of them may not be Visa)and I always use my Visa debit card without any problem at all. As long as the Visa debit card number, the CCV code at the back of the card, the expiration date and the address on the record of the card issues all tally, the card is always accepted. The issuer must allow international use of your card, though. HDFC, ICICI and lots of public sector banks allow this. Woth an account at HDFC you can even create a "Netsafe" one time use credit card online for Rs. 1100 and whatever is not used will revert to your account after fur working days.
Trust this helps.
You had earlier mentioned that debit cards can be used to register. Well I'm not able to do that; I always get a "DECLINED" message. I go through the usual registration process for payment through credit cards and enter my debit card number instead. Is this the way you do this too or is there some other process? I've tried with 3 different debit/ATM cards already :/.
Beer Belly
12-04-08, 13:18
Why is it that the India Forum is flooded with people who post the same kind of responses to pictures on the photo gallery postings that only take up space, add very little value and then even sneak in a plea for the number of the girl? Read what Santa and EL have said today about not sharing numbers with anyone in three different postings.
Please keep the photo gallery reserved for photos only, dudes. Thnx.
Expert Linguist
12-11-08, 03:22
Here is his very well written explanation for all newbies. I can vouch for its authenticity and safety.
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Hi Manna,
I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "safe to use credit card"?
If by "safe" you mean is there any danger that your credit card data might be stolen, then I can tell you that both the shopping cart service and the credit card service I use to process the credit card transactions are both conducted on secure, encrypted websites, so your credit card information is secure.
If by "safe" you mean is there any danger that your credit card statement will show that you've purchased a membership to this forum, then I can tell you that the credit card charge will be made under another name (which I won't write here because I don't want it being found by search engines) that looks like it's a contribution to a charity.
If by "safe" you mean is there any danger that a law enforcement agency might force me to divulge your forum username, then the answer is no because I delete the shopping cart transaction data every few days, and that's the only connection between your credit card charge and your username. In other words, the credit card charge doesn't include your username, only the shopping cart database has this info, and I have total control over the shopping cart's database.
In addition, the forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada, safely outside the USA legal system.
If by "safe" you mean is there a possibility that I will take your money and dissapear, then then answer is no. This has been a membership website for two years, and nobody here has ever reported a single problem with using their credit card to purchase a subscription. Believe me, if there had ever been a problem, it would have been reported it here.
Thanks,
Jackson
PS: There is also an option to purchase a subscription by mail using cash.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/subscriptions.php?#subscriptionbymail[/QUOTE]
Pankaj Parag
12-15-08, 11:28
Do ICICI provide such services?
Expert Linguist
12-15-08, 20:19
The ICICI Visa Gold debit card is accepted by the Forum's bill payer system.
Do ICICI provide such services?
The ICICI Visa Gold debit card is accepted by the Forum's bill payer system.Well there must be some mesmerism involved cos I've tried a thousand times with my ICICI Visa (international) debit card with no luck and given up :(. It works fine with online shopping and stuff.
Expert Linguist
12-19-08, 01:00
The system works if every detail you enter (card number, expiration date, billing name and address, billing phone number and the CCV code) tallies with what ICICI have on their files. Computers are stupid in a way, and think that VRod is different from Vrod, and that may be the reason. I tried it again just now and the card was accepted by the Forum's system.
Well there must be some mesmerism involved cos I've tried a thousand times with my ICICI Visa (international) debit card with no luck and given up :(. It works fine with online shopping and stuff.
Predator 4
02-16-09, 01:57
Hi,
I'm planning a trip to India in the next few months but am wary about the Monsoon season.
Dates are fixed for May and June so, after researching the rainfall patterns I'm thinking that we'll do the west of the country in May and June we'll head east, to minimise getting stuck in areas when the rain hits.
http://www.worldtravelguide.net/country/120/climate/Indian-Subcontinent/India.html
Obviously this is the start of the Monsoon season and not the absolute hardcore rainy season so I'm hoping we'll be lucky, but can anyone tell me if this rain is like elsewhere in tropical climates? i.e does it happen largely in concentrated bursts in late afternoon?
Or does it just [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) it down all day?
Thanks in advance
P4
Well, normally the rains hit coastal areas down south (Kerala) by may end ad travel towards the west (Mumbai) and by the end of June towards North.
In the coastal areas it can be heavy downpour but no fixed timings can be predicted.
Except exceptions, it cannot rain to a point where it deters the movement, and exceptions can be few hours at most a day.
But then it depends on Nature.
[QUOTE=Predator 4]Hi,
I'm planning a trip to India in the next few months but am wary about the Monsoon season.
Hi, can anyone tell me if this rain is like elsewhere in tropical climates? i.e does it happen largely in concentrated bursts in late afternoon?
Or does it just [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) it down all day?
The rains here does happen in concentrated bursts at any particular time and can also pour for more than a couple days at a stretch too.
Strong Bull
02-16-09, 14:01
May can be a hot and humid month on the coast, East or West. Monsoon hit West coast by end May (Kerala) early June (Goa) mid June (Mumbai). It would also start to rain in the East by Mid June though not as torrential as on the west coast. The North ie Delhi and Punjab have rains in July.
These months are not the best months to visit India, unless you want to hit the Simla / garhwal hills, but then mongering would be tough
Cheers
Strong
Hi,
I'm planning a trip to India in the next few months but am wary about the Monsoon season.
Dates are fixed for May and June so, after researching the rainfall patterns I'm thinking that we'll do the west of the country in May and June we'll head east, to minimise getting stuck in areas when the rain hits.
Thanks in advance
P4
Expert Linguist
03-17-09, 04:50
There have been many private messages in my inbox but I have not been checking on the Forum for two weeks. I am now in the US and will return to India only mid-June. Since my database information is all in India I will not be able to help anyone much till then.
Meanwhile, I am sure that fellow mongers in the India forum will find plenty of helpful members and have a fun time as the summer heat raises temperature in all ways.
Safe and happy mongering!!
This is a request to the admin or any senior guys. It's about subscribing using debit cards. Can anyone please put up a guide on how to do this? Me and many others have tried several times and have failed.
EL, I understand you use debit cards in this site. Can you help please - a simple guide.
Please don't ask to use CC. There's a reason I don't have CCs.
This is a request to the admin or any senior guys. It's about subscribing using debit cards. Can anyone please put up a guide on how to do this? Me and many others have tried several times and have failed.
EL, I understand you use debit cards in this site. Can you help please - a simple guide.
Please don't ask to use CC. There's a reason I don't have CCs.
Please read report # 152 . That is the only way to it. That was meant for you anyways.
Santa,
I know. But it's not working. I get a "rejected" error, even though I'm able to transact just fine on other sites. That's why I wanted to know what I'm doing wrong. Another guy in the Banaglore forums has the same problem. EL says it works for him.
Please read report # 152 . That is the only way to it. That was meant for you anyways.
Does anyone have any information the mongering if any in this area. This is the abreviated name of the city, which is located on the Bay of Bengal
Santa,
I know. But it's not working. I get a "rejected" error, even though I'm able to transact just fine on other sites.
I think the best option for you is to use the HDFC netcard which is mentioned by EL. If you dont have an HDFC account then get a friend with an account to do the needful for you and you pay him the cost involved.
I think the best option for you is to use the HDFC netcard which is mentioned by EL. If you don't have an HDFC account then get a friend with an account to do the needful for you and you pay him the cost involved.Well, you know we try to be as secretive as possible with our hobby, unless it's with another monger. So, asking someone else to do it is out of question. Anyway, I'll apply for a credit card (after all these years).
Well, you know we try to be as secretive as possible with our hobby, unless it's with another monger. So, asking someone else to do it is out of question. Anyway, I'll apply for a credit card (after all these years).
You really need to be spoon fed dont ya ? You can lie about why you need the internet transaction to your friend (as it cant be traced back) cant ya ?
Hi Santa,
I had posted two links in mumbai forum plz let me know ur view.
Dear all,
I have come across the web sites was wondering any one used their services before I am thinking could utilize or any better options do plz let me know.
http://www.freewebs.com/sweetaish/index.htm
http://escortsindia.biz/aboutus.php
Kmleo
Hi,
This is Mathew. I have been reading the articles on this site from the past 3 years, and I have reached a conclusion that what most of the tourists require is a proper local guide. I have been around the Bombay night life for more than a decade. Dance bars, massage services, women, private shows. You name it, it can be arranged.
I am willing to offer my services as a SIN city guide. Those interested may contact me with "Bombay Guide Service" in the Subject line. This way you can ensure that you will not be cheated and also will get value for money spent here.
EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to remove the multiple periods at the ends of sentences. To avoid delays in future reports, please use just one period followed by a blank space at the end of sentences. Thanks!
Srivaralakshmi
05-20-09, 09:44
Hi Santa,
I had posted two links in Mumbai forum please let me know your view.
Dear all,
I have come across the web sites was wondering any one used their services before I am thinking could utilize or any better options do please let me know.
http://www.freewebs.com/sweetaish/index. Htm
http://escortsindia. Biz/aboutus.php
KmleoThese sites are ripoff and cheaters
I tried the numbers last Sunday.
First they said they would arrange.
Then later said not possible.
After a long time they called and said they would be sending a girl from another city thru air and quoted huge sums for that.
As I wanted to try I agreed for a punjabi girl for 50K.
Around 8. 30 pm they again called and described abouth the gal and the services offered by her.
By 10. 30 pm they called to say that airfare from the girl's place was costly, so asked me to send 50% advance thru some bank.
I smelled something fishy and denied and asked them not to bother me anymore.
I think the pics even should be fakes.
Do not fall prey to this type of web ads
Rgds
Suresh
Hi Santa,
I had posted two links in mumbai forum plz let me know ur view.
Dear all,
I have come across the web sites was wondering any one used their services before I am thinking could utilize or any better options do plz let me know.
http://www.freewebs.com/sweetaish/index.htm
http://escortsindia.biz/aboutus.php
Kmleohttp://escortsindia.biz/aboutus.php surely is a rip off. With none of the pictures showing faces you are not sure of what you will get. Price quoted are from 13K to 100K. Wonder why one should go for 100K model since pictures show 13K models have better boobs in many case and face is hidden anyway. Also package deal is offered , what deal is needed to screw a girl other than price. Do they give you to press her boobs for few extra minutes in package deal?? It appears to be a site to order girls for extra rich politicians or celebrities who do not know "aloo-pyas ka daam " in market. At these price you can get to screw many so called pornstars in Vegas.
Dear kmleo,
They all are cheat and you will be ripped off by them. Just simply exit without any loss.
Bye and take care.
Hi Santa,
I had posted two links in mumbai forum plz let me know ur view.
Dear all,
I have come across the web sites was wondering any one used their services before I am thinking could utilize or any better options do plz let me know.
http://www.freewebs.com/sweetaish/index.htm
http://escortsindia.biz/aboutus.php
Kmleo
Expert Linguist
06-19-09, 02:16
Dear friends on the India Forum,
It has been a wonderful time communicating with everyone here about our favorite pastime, and responding to private messages.
Having accepted a full-time teaching position at a university here in California, I will be based here for the next few years, so I would not be contributing to the India Forum any longer.
Let me wish you all the very best in your pleasurable times and safe and healthy times ahead.
Cheers ... EL
Dear EL,
Sad to see you go away, but looks like it is doing good to you and your career. It looks you are already in CA. Are you in Bay Area? I may be traveling soon that side.
Thanks a lot from all of us in India for your valuable contribution and wish you all the very best in your new assignment!
Cheers,
Shaukeen
Dear friends on the India Forum,
It has been a wonderful time communicating with everyone here about our favorite pastime, and responding to private messages.
Having accepted a full-time teaching position at a university here in California, I will be based here for the next few years, so I would not be contributing to the India Forum any longer.
Let me wish you all the very best in your pleasurable times and safe and healthy times ahead.
Cheers ... EL
Black Python
06-19-09, 10:31
EL,
Your contributions to the Indian forums will always be appreciated. Thanks for all the advice and useful reports/information. You will be missed!
Cheers
Dear friends on the India Forum,
It has been a wonderful time communicating with everyone here about our favorite pastime, and responding to private messages.
Having accepted a full-time teaching position at a university here in California, I will be based here for the next few years, so I would not be contributing to the India Forum any longer.
Let me wish you all the very best in your pleasurable times and safe and healthy times ahead.
Cheers ... EL
Dear EL,
You have been contributing in this space like no other.You were most notable for your sincerity in helping others .
I hope , even while in CA , you can scrap a post or two in this forum, just to make your presence felt.
ISG india forum will miss you a lot.
Dear friends on the India Forum,
It has been a wonderful time
Cheers ... EL
Zedra Nunye
06-22-09, 23:00
Hi guys!
I'm new to this specific forum. If you could help with my situation I would really appreciate.
I am coming to Banglore in the next few weeks. I wanted to meet-up with interesting, beautiful women for a 'good' time. My question (s) for you are as follows.
1. Where do I start?
2. How can I meet them and spend 'fun" time with them?
3. What sort of/how much compensation is the norm?
Any help will be very good.
Thanks!
Dear friends on the India Forum,
It has been a wonderful time communicating with everyone here about our favorite pastime, and responding to private messages.
Having accepted a full-time teaching position at a university here in California, I will be based here for the next few years, so I would not be contributing to the India Forum any longer.
Let me wish you all the very best in your pleasurable times and safe and healthy times ahead.
Cheers ... ELIt is very sad you are going from this forum but I am sure you will re emerge in CA forum with a bang and Banging. You really chose a good place to work, LA and Vegas so near by, your appetite will really be fulfilled.
Also as EL goes it leaves a void for someone else to fill in. I am sure we will get someone take his position here and continue to give us all a good information treasue on mongering in India.
To end with I will Quote for the movie song :
Har janam mein rang badal ke, Kyobon ke pardoon pe Hum milate hain, Hum hain rahi pyar Ke, Phir Milenge, Chalte - Chalte (or- chodate- chodate).
Bye to EL, he's a jolly good fellow. he's a jolly godd fellow, and so says all of us.
We will miss you for sure, more so for the very valuable advice and counsel you shared via private messaging. Since I am moving to Singapore myself, we should get together when you travel home to KL on vacation.
Keep in touch, friend. And all the best teaching in the UC system.
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JustSumFun
09-25-09, 16:56
Sorry. Just was browsing the general section and noticed your post about shifting to California. Mate it was a pleasure corresponding with you. I have been more or less semi retired and was not so frequent on the forum until recently when someone asked me to help a young lady. Since then been a bit more frequent.
Your posts always made a good read and will be missed by one and all I am sure.
We will all miss you on the indian forum mate. Wish you the best in your new assignment and environment.
Cheers
JSF
Dear friends on the India Forum,
It has been a wonderful time communicating with everyone here about our favorite pastime, and responding to private messages.
Having accepted a full-time teaching position at a university here in California, I will be based here for the next few years, so I would not be contributing to the India Forum any longer.
Let me wish you all the very best in your pleasurable times and safe and healthy times ahead.
Cheers ... EL
Hi everyone!
Have been reading the forum a lot but can't decide where to go!
Been all over Asia but never India and maybe you guys can help me to decide where to go for a week in May for some fun?
Mumbai, New Delhi or Bangalore?
Any help is much appreciated!
Magic Moments
10-19-09, 07:09
Hi everyone!
Have been reading the forum a lot but can't decide where to go!
Been all over Asia but never India and maybe you guys can help me to decide where to go for a week in May for some fun?
Mumbai, New Delhi or Bangalore?
Any help is much appreciated!
You are planning your trip in May 2010. As a first time visitor to India, I would recommend Mumbai. In May, Delhi would be REALLY HOT: Temperature around 42C. Mumbai would be cooler around 35C.
From the hobby perspective Mumbai is a lot easier, with all kinds of options at various locations. You get pointers from all corners, like taxi drivers to hotel room boys. Delhi scene is more covered up and results may vary from good to Really BAD.
Magic M
Magic Moments
10-19-09, 07:13
Dear friends on the India Forum,
It has been a wonderful time communicating with everyone here about our favorite pastime, and responding to private messages.
Having accepted a full-time teaching position at a university here in California, I will be based here for the next few years, so I would not be contributing to the India Forum any longer.
Let me wish you all the very best in your pleasurable times and safe and healthy times ahead.
Cheers ... EL
Dear EL,
I visited this thread after a very long gap. Will miss you on the India forum. Your reports were great and informative. Wish you all the very best. CA is a great place both for work and pleasure.
Magic M
Luckyguy7198
10-19-09, 23:56
...I would recommend Mumbai...From the hobby perspective, Mumbai is a lot easier, with all kinds of options at various locations. You get pointers from all corners, like taxi drivers to hotel room boys...Magic M
I will second MM's recommendation. However, I wish to also add Kolkatta to the list. Very few places in India can match SG for organization and variety.
The weather may not be so much concern if you have been all over Asia, and if you are from Rio :). And if you intend to spend most of your time in bed ;), air conditioning and back-up power is available at most locations.
If you are planning a long trip (>10 days) and love to explore, do not forget the North-East (Guwahati, Shillong).
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Cranky Som
10-30-09, 16:34
I came to know of this site from a friend.
This is my first time in India, and Delhi to be specific.
Would be here for two weeks or so.
Any pointers/contacts would be appreciated.
Hi,
I am going to be in Mumbai for 4 days (incl weekend) mid-Dec
Can someone firstly recommend a good location, and then also a hotel (must have wifi internet)?
I want to be close to the P4P and nightclub scene.
Appreciate your help and would be happy to meet some of the local mongers.
Dude Dashing
11-17-09, 11:51
Hello guys,
I'm based in Pune and new to the forum. I wonder if any action happens in Pune apart from amrut. I was out of Pune for a few months and back now. Had quite good contacts then but all of them have either changed numbers or shofted else where. Could anybody please tell me which are other places to look for in Pune? I tried calling some nos from classified but seems these people are asking for exorbitant prices and everytime some guy answers the phone which is very irritating.
Luckyguy7198
12-14-09, 22:02
Interesting article: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-5334754,prtpage-1.cms
Avoid it if the stone is old. In the winter months.
Good way to catch a cold.
i had a bad experience in bangalore. i thought i will share with fellow members.
few months back i was in bangalore. walking in majestic bus station overpass.
i saw few girls on the steps but all are below average. while coming down the steps(slope) usually some girls stand there. one girl was attractive i just casually talked to her. since i was not comfortable with them i moved on.
late i stud there at the bus station and monitored the environment. one guy came and approached me. he told me he has girls in hostel i can use them in the hostel asked me to pay rupees. 1k. i was excited. he said i need to pay for the auto which will comes around rupees 70. i agreed.
he asked me 5 minutes time so that he can get one more guy.
in 5 minutes he brought another guy. i thought it is genuine.
we all took auto. 3 of us. after travelling 45 minutes some where in mysore road we got down. since i was not having change the guy who approached me paid for auto.
while going other guy (3rd person) whether want to buy drinks. then then first guy told me drinks are available at reasonable cost at the hostel.
when we crossed some street and construction site. he told us we need to go via back door as front door has security guard. so we agreed. he took us via some dark place. i was skeptical. no light and dark. after walking 3 minutes the area was totally dark.
i told him i am going back. he requested me walk another 5 minutes.
then we walked 2 minutes i was afraid then i told him i am going back. then this guy try to catch me i kicked him and i ran escaped.
so be careful if you are going with strangers and in dark place.
How big share of the girls will agree to anal sex in your experience?
Thanks.
Boy Oh Boy
07-16-10, 20:33
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV-Prevention/Vaginal-fluid-on-hand-touched-inside-of-condom-and-head-of-penis/show/1119533
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Kumar Arun
08-20-10, 13:33
I think we will be struggling to get good items for next few weeks.
Source: Yahoo India.
It is no secret why and where several hundred thousand condoms got consumed during the Beijing Olympics in 2008. An international sports event such as the Olympics or the FIFA World Cup is just an excuse for the sex industry to smell a lucrative business opening. This holds true for the upcoming Commonwealth Games in the Capital in October as well.
The Games may have been dogged by controversies so far, but for pleasure-seeking tourists, there is something tempting. Beauties are already being flown to the Capital to make it a thriving sex industry during the fortnight-long sports event.
If the escort agents whom HEADLINES TODAY contacted are to be believed, then it is clear: you name a country. Britain, Spain, Germany, Poland, former USSR countries, Afghanistan and Turkey. And the brokers, numbering about 450-500 in the city, would arrange these at your doorstep in the garb of escorts.
"There are over 450 brokers working overtime to put the business in order as each has about 15-20 escort girls under their charge, " said one of the biggest escort agents operating in Delhi for the past decade, who called himself Rohan Kapoor.
After being tipped off by reliable sources, HEADLINES TODAY's special investigation team went undercover to expose several escort agencies, which have set their eyes on the Games for a lucrative business. After several meetings, the team met 26-year-old Russian Anna.
The stunning woman, who is one of the major agents of a huge sex syndicate, is doing business in South Delhi. She said: "Escort agencies are operating in Europe and Russia and are now looking for lucrative business during the Commonwealth Games. " To check her claims, the team asked her how many girls she could arrange. "Fifty to one hundred, " she replied confidently. "Any problem in arranging the demand? " a reporter asked. "No problem, " Anna said. What about the nationality of these girls? "Of course, all foreigners, " she said, adding, "but a mix from different countries. "
Another interesting thing was that these girls would be available all day and night and for 10-12 days. Each broker has to pay between 1-2 lakh for a girl from the former USSR countries and about 5-7 lakh for someone from Britain or Spain. "The Brits command the highest price, " Anna said.
But Anna is just one player in the intricate web of this illegal flesh trade. Someone like Kapoor has more inner details to offer. "The net is spread far and wide. High-class escorts from London cost about 7 lakh while those from Spanish-speaking countries charge around 6 lakh. Turkish escorts are relatively cheaper at about 2 lakh, " he said.
Eyeing the major chunk of this business are the syndicates from the former USSR countries. All of them are hired under a contract for a fortnight. Getting into India is not a big deal for these escorts.
Diana, from Moscow, and Saira from Uzbekistan are both operating in Delhi now. These two women also confirmed that the number of escort girls will rise manifold during the Games. When asked how many girls from her country (Uzbekistan) are currently present in the Capital, Saira said: "about three hundred". How do they make it work? Perhaps Kapoor has all the answers. "Under the garb of escort services, illegal flesh trade continues unchecked. The local broker first contacts foreign escort agencies and then a rate is fixed for the whole trip, " he said. A girl gets about 50- 60 per cent of the total contract money, depending on the broker. They do not come on work permits, but on a tourist visa, for which they pay about $1500.
Apart from the foreign escort syndicates, the Indian syndicates would be operating too during the Games. But do not forget that behind all these sex syndicates, the Russian mafia is allegedly giving the backup cover of security to these brokers and escort agents.
Kumar Arun
08-24-10, 02:33
Tollywood-drug mafia link exposed, 2 actresses held
Close on the heels of exposing the alleged Tollywood-drug mafia link, the Hyderabad police on Monday claimed to have busted a high-profile prostitution racket and arrested eight persons, including two Telugu film actresses, and a woman from Uzbekistan.
The actresses were arrested on charge of indulging in flesh trade.
The other arrested include four men and a woman, who have been accused of running the racket, police said.
For full report
http://news.rediff.com/slide-show/2010/aug/23/slide-show-1-tollywood-drug-mafia-link-exposed-2-actresses-held.htm
I hope my links are safe.
ISG forum is very beneficial for buyers like us when we have to face organised suppliers out there. This is like good innoculation.
Thanks
Hi Guys,
While surfing thru the internet i stumbled upon the following note!
The guys writing this seems to have done some extensive mongering in terms of finding out joints. The rates mentioned however do no match. Still its worth a read to figure some new joints.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/12434030/Mumbai-Area
Taepo Dong
09-12-10, 02:15
Hmm, I have never been to India but am planning on a trip.
Came across this interesting article on Bollywood "actresses" availabilities:
http://www.slate.com/id/2266410/pagenum/all/#p2
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Beer Belly
09-12-10, 05:30
if you have an account with either icici or hdfc bank, you can generate a netsafe card which is a one time use credit card. set it up for 1000 rupees and you are good to go. lots of guys i met in india do this regularly. your bank statement will only show that you bought a netsafe card and not what it was used for. best of luck.
hey guy i need a help. i want to buy the subscription but don't have a credit card.
Naughtyboy2
09-12-10, 13:07
if you have an account with either icici or hdfc bank, you can generate a netsafe card which is a one time use credit card. set it up for 1000 rupees and you are good to go. lots of guys i met in india do this regularly. your bank statement will only show that you bought a netsafe card and not what it was used for. best of luck.
there are lot of prepaid credit cards are now widely available which is same as normal credit card and allows you to buy the subscription of isg
if you have an account with either icici or hdfc bank, you can generate a netsafe card which is a one time use credit card. set it up for 1000 rupees and you are good to go. lots of guys i met in india do this regularly. your bank statement will only show that you bought a netsafe card and not what it was used for. best of luck.thanks a lot l have the icici bank account will surely look for the netsafe card and will be the subscription asap.
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If you would have been really an independent one, even today I don't mind trying you out at least once. But unfortunately it is not the case.
If you (or your middle man) remembers, around a year & half back I had contacted you. My only condition was that I will pay the money if the girl in picture is send. It was one of the * hotels on Man Singh road.
Finally when the girl arrived, I was shocked to see that some 3rd grade girl was send. Fortunately it was decided to meet outside the hotel, so I could avoid taking her, in spite of lot of nuisance created by your driver/middle man.To the extent I was threatened by that man. Somehow with my good LE contacts I could manage to circumvent the situation.
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10-07-10, 07:40
http://www.jiyasen.com Is a sham. Once I had email conversation with this Jiay. Bad experience and attitude.
She's asking for 30K per night. And not sure the girl will be same as you see in the site.
Avoid
Member #4171
11-16-10, 17:21
<A place holder report to compare ISG popularity by the year>
ISG Statistics:
OCT2010 (?) data:
Unique visits/day: 27,930
Income per day: $83
Income per month: $2,490
Income per year: $30,295
Site value: $45,650
Alexa Rank: #19,852
These days i have been seeing a lot of members terming themselves as "Newbie" and asking for contacts referring others as "Seniors".
Question is who is a newbie and who is a senior? Is a newbie someone with less number of posts and a senior with more number of posts ?
Well IMHO, this is how i differentiate a newbie and a senior. I "Newbie" for me is someone who firstly has less number of posts (usually less than 5 or 10) and second and most importantly has almost no field reports (FR). "Seniors" on the other hand are members with quite bit of field reports.
One might now ask i do have many field reports but i still do not get help from seniors. Well my simple answer for them would be. "Have Patience" and DO NOT let this forum be your ONLY route to the mongering world. I still have friends who are not even aware of this forum but still good at mongering and have really good contacts. There could be so many ways we can monger and satisfy our "having sex with other women" needs. I have a friend who doesn't believe in paid sex and only prefers sex by "Patofying" the other chick. Thats his way !
Coming back to the point, FR again will not be the only way to differentiate a senior and a newbie. The quality of FR's also matter. I have seen FR with as so good to be true. It's like the author is some kind of a writer and should start publishing his own books. But then one might doubt the reports genuineness. So at times members attach pictures of the so said their hunt for the day, which at times are doubtable. So as its easy to write a report and increase your post count but that will not at all confirm you from receiving contacts from other members. Its easy to make out reports which are genuine and reports which are not. (Works out atleast for me)
I have also seen members cribbing about seniors not helping them. Well trust me, genuine mongers DO help others regardless their post counts, but from what i have learned is that these days its hard to trust a member coz members(usually) with low post counts just take the contact and messes it up! (shere due to lack of inexperience) I would like to remind all those who are new in mongering, getting contacts might be easy, but maintaing them is the tougest job! Members spend their time and money to find GEM's and maintain them only to realise someone whom he trusted scrwed up the contact !
So guys be honest to yourself and the forum when you are putting up your report or asking for contacts from others.
There are NO seniors, juniors or newbies on the forum. We all have a dick which needs to be satisfied !!
So keep exploring this mongering world!
Cheers,
UD
Member #4171
11-17-10, 13:28
UD. ...and you missed an important aspect of this forum.
Small groups of close friends that are formed over time, who communicate via phones and also meet in groups just for good times sake, to share notes and to introduce their "newfound" contacts in person!. This forum becomes just a secondary option to brag, keep scores, check for 'new promising markets' and to find other folks with similar tastes, interests AND wave length, apart from mongering aspects :)
.. and thinking, should I get personal (and knife-edge sarcastic) on the "insult" to some "writer" reference? Nah... maybe, you should "speak up like a man on the members and their FRs, when it is warranted, or forever hold your peace", rather than putting all the 'writers' (full-time/part-time/hobbyist/pathetic) on the same chopping block!! :)
. I have seen FR with as so good to be true. It's like the author is some kind of a writer and should start publishing his own books. But then one might doubt the reports genuineness. So at times members attach pictures of the so said their hunt for the day, which at times are doubtable. So as its easy to write a report and increase your post count but that will not at all confirm you from receiving contacts from other members. Its easy to make out reports which are genuine and reports which are not. (Works out at least for me)
UD
Just came across this video and it really shows the attitude of society towards women who either are SW or victim of prostitution.
The only message i want to pass via this is that treat women with respect and not a sex object. Althou this forum is to help each other and share the sexual experiences we have with the "other women", it also is against humanity to abuse such women either verbally, physically or sexually.
SW too are human beings and deserve respect just like the way you and me do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeOumyTMCI8
Thanks,
UD.. And you missed an important aspect of this forum.
Small groups of close friends.
The 'writers' (full-time/part-time/hobbyist/pathetic) on the same chopping block!I agree on that. It about helping each other and not bragging about the scores and hotties you've got lucky with. Writing a full page report with Oxford English is not going to earn you respect or "fan followings". Its about how genuine those reports and how well you help each other for their sexual needs. I miss reports by few members who not only were a major part of this forum by their contribution but were also kind enough to help those in needs. Its just sad to know that these guys now no longer either contribute or share with people they don't know only because the contacts were misused.
We all agree it is damn hard to trust someone you know only by an internet ID and share a hard earned contact only to realize the contact no longer wishes to either be in business anymore or completely break contacts with us. Thanks to the window shopping, sexual abuse, bargaining, disrespect, etc shown by those fellows who literally "BEG" for a contact. This is the reason why the small groups are formed who remain in touch offline and move on, keeping the forum dry.
If this continues, one day this forum too will be filled of members who too are fakers just like the ones on the escorting websites. Nyways, many would know the members I am talking about and yes this forum does miss them!
Mate, your kind of posting is rather typical and to everyone who has been a real monger it would even sound rather lame. It is possible that you have lost her contact details, but there are so many ways to get them, some of which are covered in the posting by AllSaints.
If you have already met her in Colombo (as I have), you know who she is, her age, her looks and her performance as a bed-mate. However, your posting appears so much like that of a newbie, who is suddenly aroused at the prospect of meeting her. As AllSaints has said RTFF the Sri Lanka threads (one of them today even has a link to AllSaints report!!) and believe me there is enough info there to get what you need. If you subscribe we can discuss this via PM.
I had met Ev0nne while I was on a short stint of 2yrs in SL. But subsequently I lost her mail ID and contact, it would be nice if you can share here mail id
Member #4171
11-25-10, 15:40
One of the cool gadgets for a monger is a (multiple) dual-SIM phone(s), without a doubt.
The easiest way to get SIM is to walk over to a nearby nondescript place/shop, submit a copy of the documents, and walk out with a prepaid SIM. The only issue? it is possible to use the copy of the same documents that you had submitted for getting SIMs for other folks; which would mean, other folks using SIMs, in YOUR name, that you are not even aware of!. Yeah. some serious procedural issues, on the way SIM cards are issued - and it can get quite confusing, when the LE knocks, and you are quite confused, if it is about mongering charges or some other issue. :)
Bowled Over
11-28-10, 18:13
The only issue? it is possible to use the copy of the same documents that you had submitted for getting SIMs for other folks; which would mean, other folks using SIMs, in YOUR name, that you are not even aware of!.
Just cross all the documents and scribble on 2 or 3 uneditable places:
"Submitted for a mobile connection with XXXXX (name of operator) for mobile nr. yyyyyy"
This will give you some limited amount of protection.
using what i was amused to hear the first time the term was used, "speed money", you can get connected without submitting any paperwork at all.
this will give you some limited amount of protection.
Kattar Puneri
12-17-10, 03:23
For type of ads Sitting Duck directs to Google, here is sample. Search by girl name and get to many leads. Follow your instinct however. It worked for me once with girl called Mallika. 12K for ST but she was there three hours saying she having good time. Must be my single malt whisky.
I am attracted to Indian girls in general, at least the ones that aren't too chubby.
However, looking over this board, I really don't understand:
- The relatively high prices (compared to SE Asia) mongers are paying for what often does not look like attractive girls.
- How seldom anyone talks about picking up 'free' or 'semi-pro' girls.
I know India, with Sri Lanka and Bangladesh is a significant supplier of maids to other countries. So I do not think the income and employment levels are that high.
Hmm well I just checked.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_pop_bel_pov_lin-economy-population-below-poverty-line
India has 25% below poverty line (2007 data) , better than Philippines (with 30%). OTOH, Indonesia, and Vietnam have fewer below poverty line, yet also have tons of girls looking for action at discount prices.
So what gives? Why is it hard [For a White Guy, not a local] to pick up a free-lancer / semi-pro looking for a little college money, or a meal?
Beer Belly
12-20-10, 02:26
okay, here is a caucasian american's viewpoint, after years of mongering worldwide and now with an indian from kerala as a girlfriend living with me in ceder rapids. if you have seen how india is going over the last few years, you will find that there is so much corruption in public life that one needs to pay bribes for getting even the smallest of services on time, which is why another monger here used the term "speed money" in this thread. with pretty much everyone making easy money, no one is ashamed to ask for as much as they can get. you will read reports here that even friends and colleagues charge 25 dollars or more for letting a monger use the room for a short while.
white guys like us stick out even in thick crowds, so we are easy marks for an even bigger demand on our funds. unless you live in india long enough just forget about picking up any "free-lancer" or so-called "college girl" types. they will not come with a white guy, not even in cities like bombay. it may be a bit easier if you have a local guy who vouches for you, but then if things do not go well he will owe the woman big time. so, pay a little more, go to one of those escort sites that advertise for foreigners and for about 200 dollars get very good company for about two hours of terrific time. the women are usually well read and fairly well educated and can actually have a decent conversation while making you feel like a king. that level of "intellect" you cannot get in asean countries, except perhaps in singapore, unless what you want is just sex.
just my one cent's worth.
so what gives? why is it hard [for a white guy, not a local] to pick up a free-lancer / semi-pro looking for a little college money, or a meal?
White guys like us stick out even in thick crowds, so we are easy marks for an even bigger demand on our funds.Ok thanks for the info. I am not going to live there, so I will give India a pass I guess. Plenty of other fish from NW Africa to the PI.
I may look to hook up with Indian girl in Malaysia.
Princearain
01-06-11, 09:47
For type of ads Sitting Duck directs to Google, here is sample. Search by girl name and get to many leads. Follow your instinct however. It worked for me once with girl called Mallika. 12K for ST but she was there three hours saying she having good time. Must be my single malt whisky.The attached image is that of a telugu actress. Her name is anushka. And if I am not wrong it is one of the recently released movies where she plays a pro!
Kattar Puneri
01-06-11, 10:49
The ad said "Sakshi Verma" as image shows. And Anushka is more buxom than woman in the image. But what you have said is very possible. I just posted what Google displayed. The Mallika I met was different lady.
The attached image is that of a telugu actress. Her name is anushka.
Princearain
01-07-11, 10:00
The ad said "Sakshi Verma" as image shows. And Anushka is more buxom than woman in the image. But what you have said is very possible. I just posted what Google displayed. The Mallika I met was different lady.Yep got that mate that you were just sharing it as an example. Have fun. Cheers!
KalahariSandsMan
01-21-11, 03:34
Hi all. First time contributor, long time reader. Anyway, have just relocated to Delhi for work and getting pretty frustrated with the lack of action so far, though have yet to check out Bacchus and Addiction, which seem to be ripe for some fun. Anyway, was just hoping to canvas some opinion on Indian domestic staff and whether they are potentially up for some daytime fun if you know what I mean. We have taken on this really pretty Nepali chick who is young with a nice ass (not flat like too many of these Indian women). She is constantly smiling at me (though I've been fooled already by Indian women, thinking they are making eye contact when actually they are just staring!) and gets me horny as hell when she's doing the cleaning with her ass crack showing. She doesn't seem to care. She is unmarried. Obviously no shitting on your own doorstep comes into play, especially with my family here, but if I play it cool, giving her some extra cash here and there is she needs it, do you think there are possibilities for action or am I just wasting my time? Would be grateful for advice, I have just moved here from a country where sex is available for the price of some airtime for their phone, so really need to get my bearings.
Thanks in advance people!
Hi all. First time contributor, long time reader. Anyway, have just relocated to Delhi for work and getting pretty frustrated with the lack of action so far, though have yet to check out Bacchus and Addiction, which seem to be ripe for some fun. Anyway, was just hoping to canvas some opinion on Indian domestic staff and whether they are potentially up for some daytime fun if you know what I mean. We have taken on this really pretty Nepali chick who is young with a nice ass (not flat like too many of these Indian women). She is constantly smiling at me (though I've been fooled already by Indian women, thinking they are making eye contact when actually they are just staring!) and gets me horny as hell when she's doing the cleaning with her ass crack showing. She doesn't seem to care. She is unmarried. Obviously no shitting on your own doorstep comes into play, especially with my family here, but if I play it cool, giving her some extra cash here and there is she needs it, do you think there are possibilities for action or am I just wasting my time? Would be grateful for advice, I have just moved here from a country where sex is available for the price of some airtime for their phone, so really need to get my bearings.
Thanks in advance people! IMHO. Play it carefully and you can have some fun. Especially with women from the NE and Nepal. They are more open and receptive. But always watch out for the emotional hangups that usually follow. Was that useless advice?
Beer Belly
01-21-11, 10:00
Play it carefully is absolutely right, and frankly doing the maid is recipe for a disaster, especially in Delhi where it could be a set-up. You read several news stories of maids making accusations and the new Indian laws about sexual harassment could make it rather "expensive" if you do get booked by the police. It is far cheaper to fly to Calcutta for the weekend and enjoy legitimate bliss at Sonagachi!
IMHO. Play it carefully and you can have some fun. Especially with women from the NE and Nepal. They are more open and receptive. But always watch out for the emotional hangups that usually follow. Was that useless advice?
Obviously no shitting on your own doorstep comes into play, especially with my family here, but if I play it cool, giving her some extra cash here and there is she needs it, do you think there are possibilities for action or am I just wasting my time?
Peter Patros
01-22-11, 15:12
Hi all. First time contributor, long time reader. Anyway, have just relocated to Delhi for work and getting pretty frustrated with the lack of action so far, Would be grateful for advice, I have just moved here from a country where sex is available for the price of some airtime for their phone, so really need to get my bearings.
Thanks in advance people! I Wouldn't even think about it, if I were you! Too close to home for comfort. The risks are too many. Possible accusations of sexual harassment, and the family getting to know are two of the main ones. Just smile back at her and look for action elsewhere, at a safe distance from home!
KalahariSandsMan
01-23-11, 18:17
I Wouldn't even think about it, if I were you! Too close to home for comfort. The risks are too many. Possible accusations of sexual harassment, and the family getting to know are two of the main ones. Just smile back at her and look for action elsewhere, at a safe distance from home!Thanks guys for the advice, will take it on board. Whilst my head says you are right, the little fella is still hopeful. Will probably just ply her with cash gifts here and there and see where that takes me. Off to Calcutta in a couple of weeks, so will see if I can grab myself a lookalike in SG!
Cheers
My first instinct is to say you'd be wasting your time and setting yourself up for serious problems, but I also know of several cases where an employer has had a mutually beneficial arrangement result from exploring this avenue. I wouldn't dismiss it completely, but be careful. There are plenty of maids in Delhi that perform sexual favors in return for some type of consideration (usually cash, obviously).
Easy enough to test. Let her accidentally see you naked and see how she reacts. I'd suggest you allow her to save face the first time, so do it in a way that she's unaware that you know she saw anything. She could see you sleeping in the buff or something. Gauge her reaction to you after that.
Then let her see you with your knowledge, but by accident. Towel drop, robe come undone, walk in on you masturbating, there are a million ways to do this. It has to look like it was an accident though. Her reaction to this is the key. If she's not interested at all, she's likely to leave your employment. Most other responses, especially those with humor, are signs that you may have an opportunity brewing.
I'd love to know how this pans out. Do share!
but if I play it cool, giving her some extra cash here and there is she needs it, do you think there are possibilities for action or am I just wasting my time?
KalahariSandsMan
01-29-11, 11:32
I'd love to know how this pans out. Do share!Thanks for all of the advice on this one. Upped her wages by Rs1,000 per month on Saturday but she more or less ignored me and went off to thank my wife! Thought I could have at least got a hug and a grope out of it. Never mind. Will see how it goes and report back any success.
Chico Charlie 1
01-30-11, 07:10
I have had the bad experience of calling the girl from Jiya Sen. A thrid grade girl was sent.
However, I had the good luck of knowing a senior who informed me about the girl. So after two deeds of CIM + COB, I paid the girl only 3k and sent her off. She tried to create a scene at the 5* I was staying at in Delhi. However, I showed her some ids and some numbers which caught her and she willingly accepted the 3k + 500 tip and went off. By the way, she has silicone implanted in her.
Looks 3. Attitude 7 CIM 8.
Have a great trip mongering. Keep Safe.
Charlie.
I am delighted you have found me within this wonderful world of discrete companionship. My name is JIYASEN, I would like to take this opportunity to introduce myself to you as an international travel companion and a private leisure hostess. A few words of importance I wish to mention before you proceed any further. It is only my intent to cater to those gentlemen who value exclusivity and the utmost discretion responsibly in a companion; therefore it is also imperative to mention that I will not simply agree to meet based on our corresponding schedules. Choosing the right companion should not be a rushed decision or based solely on absolute physical attraction, nor do I believe in meeting anyone and everyone who requests it. Every rendezvous should be special and be deserving of individual attention. I am open to having a few exchanges of email or phone conversations to make certain we are well-suited for each other.
Log on:
http://www.jiyasen.com
Beer Belly
02-04-11, 15:10
The fellow who recommends a daily dose of Viagra asks people for contacts all over this country, promising them some in exchange. You guys read the following from three different cities and decide for yourself who you may be dealing with.
will u exchange her cell no in return for sombody in Ban'lore or Mubai ?
Good FR! Can pm me her cell for exchange with another! You don't have pm facility?
How to share with you? You don't have PM facility? Pm me that contact for an exchange or your email.
Member #4171
02-20-11, 18:05
Here's to MP mongers who are lazy to pick up a Chennai DC in the mornings and to do the dialings. Now, it comes to ISG. Trying out different ideas. Escorts advts are mixed in with massage advts. (Do we need a separate Chennai classified section, if some mongers want to try uploading the classified scans atleast once in a month?). Uploading the scan as a pdf as there are no restrictions on the height and width; had to forsake some clarity to be within the specified file size, but then the file is readable.
Introduction: In Maharashtra liquor permit is necessary for the purchase, possession transport, and consumption of liquor. Any person above the age of 25 years is eligible for obtaining the liquor permit for preservation and maintenance of his health. Purchase and drinking without a liquor permit is an offence under Bombay Prohibition Act 1949.
A) Under what Act / Rules the permit is issued :
Rule 70-D of Bombay Foreign liquor Rules 1953, which are issued under Bombay Prohibition Act 1949. One who desires to purchase foreign liquor and country liquor for possession transport, use and consumption shall apply under this rule.
B) Whom to Apply :
A person above the age of 25 years who desires to purchase foreign liquor for possession, transport and use, consumption shall apply to the Collector of Mumbai City / Superintendent of State Excise Mumbai or officer authorized by the State Govt.
In case of Mumbai City a person can apply to the area Excise Officer, at Boribunder Excise Station, Opera House Excise Station, or the office of the Superintendent of State Excise, Old Custom House, Mumbai. Tel No. 2266 4801.
C) How to Apply :
Application should be made in prescribed form.
Affix Re. 1 Court Fee Stamp and present personally to the Authorized Officer.
D) Time Limit within which the permit will be delivered :
The liquor permits are issued for one year on recovery of Rs. 25- and Rs. 75- for a period of three years. The permits can be obtained immediately on submission of application.
E) Complaint Redressal Authority :
The Collector, Mumbai City District or The Superintendent of State Excise, Mumbai City.Source:
http://mumbaicity.gov.in/htmldocs/liquor.htm
Yellow Bus
03-06-11, 01:06
i heard but i doubt its try but are there idols for the ****. god and things in india?
Member #4171
03-12-11, 21:30
Some statistics for the statistically inclined:
Cases registered in India in 2010 under Imm0ral Traffic (Pr3vention) Act.
Source: Stat3 for W0m3n and Chi1d D3v3l0pment. Kri5hna Tira+h in R. Sabha.
Statistical conclusion: Whatever you want to interpret this as (and stay away from the LOW-4s states? And that there is actually a large number of operators in the 4 south states, when compared to others?)
THE Hi-4s:
Andhra Pradesh: 438.
Kerala: 281.
Tamil Nadu: 235.
Karanataka: 250.
THE LOW-4s:
Orissa: 0.
Arunachal Pradesh: 0.
Nagaland: 0.
Tripura: 0.
THE SUMMARY:
2007:3568.
2008:2659.
2009:2474.
Pussycheck
03-15-11, 06:58
If you want to f*ck very good looking Indian girls (pretty faces, slim) with a good performance with no risk of being cheated by the girl or by someone else to which place should you go to? The place can be inside as well as outside of India.
Intersting stats Allsaints.
We indians irrespective of north south or east devide are a sexually oppressed lot, but then the attitude of the
People / Govt differs. Kolkota has the best RLD & there is hardly any LE. Arunachal& meghalaya between them has the
Highest HIV incidence (one can conjecture the mongering scene there though unhealthy) but then no LE.
Govts down south may be wanting to play to the Galleries (Forgeting their Priorities) or Policemen wants to make a Faster Buck &all the 4states down south attracts lots of Visitors be it for Tourism or Business. One can go on surmising.
To find out the reason of this interesting stats. Any takers?
Some statistics for the statistically inclined:
Cases registered in India in 2010 under Imm0ral Traffic (Pr3vention) Act.
Source: Stat3 for W0m3n and Chi1d D3v3l0pment. Kri5hna Tira+h in R. Sabha.
Statistical conclusion: Whatever you want to interpret this as (and stay away from the LOW-4s states? And that there is actually a large number of operators in the 4 south states, when compared to others?)
THE Hi-4s:
Andhra Pradesh: 438.
Kerala: 281.
Tamil Nadu: 235.
Karanataka: 250.
THE LOW-4s:
Orissa: 0.
Arunachal Pradesh: 0.
Nagaland: 0.
Tripura: 0.
THE SUMMARY:
2007:3568.
2008:2659.
2009:2474.
Good question. Never struck me.
Well, would ask them babes about this from now on. Right from the 'horse's mouth', no?
Champak Lal
03-16-11, 15:55
If you want to f*ck very good looking Indian girls (pretty faces, slim) with a good performance with no risk of being cheated by the girl or by someone else to which place should you go to? The place can be inside as well as outside of India.The god is in the middle of creating this place. Not fully done yet. Usually the best bet is the places where prostitution is legal.
Has anyone been to Aurangabad and can provide any details on action there? I will be traveling there on business next month and every other month until next April. Would appreciate some info in anyone has any.
Thanks,
Dviking
It appear so, after seeing Shakeela movies!
Intersting stats Allsaints.
We indians irrespective of north south or east devide are a sexually oppressed lot, but then the attitude of the
People / Govt differs. Kolkota has the best RLD & there is hardly any LE. Arunachal& meghalaya between them has the
Highest HIV incidence (one can conjecture the mongering scene there though unhealthy) but then no LE.
Govts down south may be wanting to play to the Galleries (Forgeting their Priorities) or Policemen wants to make a Faster Buck &all the 4states down south attracts lots of Visitors be it for Tourism or Business. One can go on surmising.
To find out the reason of this interesting stats. Any takers?
Hey everyone,
I've gone through a fair amount of the India section of ISG but there seems to be absolutely nothing mentioned about Goa. I find this to be a little surprising given how popular a tourist destination this place is. Due to new work commitments, this year I expect to be traveling atleast once if not twice a month to Goa, specifically Panjim.
My requirement is info about massage joints (that have happy endings and maybe more on offer) and independents. Can anyone provide me with information about what the scene is like in and around Panjim? Would also like information about North Goa and South Goa places as well.
Thanks,
Max
MailOrderCondoms
02-10-12, 01:23
Hi,
I would like to know if Kamagra Fizz (effervescent tablets) are readily available in medical stores in India.
Thanks
Then let her see you with your knowledge, but by accident. Towel drop, robe come undone, walk in on you masturbating, there are a million ways to do this. It has to look like it was an accident though. Her reaction to this is the key. If she's not interested at all, she's likely to leave your employment. Most other responses, especially those with humor, are signs that you may have an opportunity brewing.All this is fine. But it doesn't save you if the chick has laid a trap.
Given that the Indian laws for sexual harassment are highly biased against the tougher sex, I'd bang a maid only after taking written consent from her.
Hi Newbees,
Note: Read completely, even though it may seem to be a bit long.
I am going to do a "show me how, once" for the benefit of all of you.
Firstly, believe me and understand that it is not necessary to have contacts and referals to start mongering in *commercial in-call places* viz. DBs, MPs, popular pick-up joints etc. All the required information is available in the relevant thread, may be in bits and pieces, because blatant and overt information display may (& mostly will) attract LE attention and land us / may be the website owner Mr. Jackson also, in trouble. Hence you need to exercise some discretion. Given all the bits and pieces, you just have to collect all of them, join them together and arrive at the complete picture.
Only when you want to enter the area of independents, you need contacts & referals. Again believe me, it is very time consuming and difficult to cultivate an independent contact but very easy to loose it by indiscriminate / indiscrete usage. Very recently one of my independent contact has gone dead, though I had not given it to anybody else. I know, I was not that lady's only client. May be, some other client's indiscriminate / indiscrete bevaviour upset her and hence she changed her no. If this is the case even when the information was not leaked by me, you can imagine what could happen when the information is freely distributed. This is the reason, why the experienced members / seniors are apprehensive about freely distributing the information to newbees.
To overcome this inhibition, you have to first demonstrate your intent and credibility. Then you yourself will see that information will flow to you just as easily as waterflow.
I hope you all will understand.
Actually all the above are thoughts and wisdom of JustSumFun (of Bombay thread). I have only re-worded them here.
Now, here is the stepwise run-down on how to go about mongering in a commercial in-call place. Mind you, I will only show you the road, you have to walk the distance, better still run!
1. The place. Fisrt you need to know the place.
- read the thread of your interest, atleast for the past 1-year. Note down any thing that symantically sounds like the name of a place / location. It may not have been spelt completely, don't worry.
- In case of MPs, go through the classifieds of all the local news papers, especially the health & fitness, and escorts sections. Try to connect the place given in the post to something simillar in the ad. Actually, trying to pronounce the 2 helps, if they sound the same, then most probably they are. This way you have isolated the preferred MP (that given in the post) from all those advertised in the news paper. Rest all is kids-play. Note the phone no from the ad, call them, make enquiries, ask directions etc.
- In case of DBs, pick-up joints the task is only a little more difficult, because they are not advertised in news papers. You may have to dig deeper in the relevant thread. Again try to connect names of places in 2 or more different posts. Some-times "*"/alphabet replacement helps, some other times phonetics helps, yet other times translation of the english word into regional language helps. Eg. Gold could stand for Sonu, Sony, Sonia in Maharashtra and Hindi speaking states. Tuesday could be a stand-in for "Mangalwar" in Karnatak, Maharshtra and hindi speaking states.
- Some of the members also have a presence on other forums. Google their user IDs and find the URLs of likely websites. Now read the posts in these other websites and you could be surprised to find that some of the names have been fully spelt-out there.
- I suggest the above only to decipher the name of the place. For all other things I strongly suggest that you use only ISG. I have done this and found that the quality of posts, in terms of language, content and presentation, is far better on ISG.
2. The Price. Now you have to know the services available and their prices.
- Here again forum posts are your best friends. But now you have to read only the relevant posts and could skip all others.
Alternative to 1+2.
- As a last resort, straight away call the contact person in the MP / escorts ads and ask them about the quality of the stock, services, price and finally what if you don't like their stock. Then try to negotiate, about 20-30% discount on the first quote should be reasonable for the first encounter. Then ask about the system to be followed. Usually they will ask you to check-in into a hotel and call them and give your room number. I *strongly* suggest you ask them for hotel suggestions and check into that only. Their suggested hotels have business relations with the local LE and the possibility of you getting into trouble are less. One more suggestion. Before check-in ensure that the hotel is not seedy, preferably in a commercial locality / building. If you check-in to a cheap hotel, you could be in for some nasty surprises on your very first outing. This method is most likely to be a bit costly, but you will have atleast one experience under your belt. Procedure could be improved upon at a later date.
3. The Action.
- With the above information, place-services-price, you are all ready with a loded gun for the first hunt. Now, be bold, go out to the jungle, aim and shoot; *pun intended*
4. The Network Building.
- Note the name and contact of the girl (also confirm with her if you can call her directly, mostly she will not say no) and the person who delivered her to your room. These girls shift bases periodically, and next time if you call her directly you could probably land with a new agent. Now you have one more contact and so it goes.
5. Announce the conquest.
- Don't forget to post your experience. Which method worked for you, how was the experience etc for the benefit of newbees.
Congratulations, now you are no longer a newbee.
So, all newbees,
Best of Luck (F*K.) and happy mongering
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