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Fast Eddie 48
03-27-12, 05:19
I am going to Manila for 1 week then to Bali for 1 week. I have been to Phillipines before and never had a problem with just my passport. I was checking my flight details and seen I need a visa to enter Indonesia well I went into a panic I am leaving for my trip in April. Then I calmed down and read old posts and seen I just need a passport with 5 blank pages and 25 USD for a temporary visa. My question is did I forget anything else I have money and a passport and viagra am I good to go thanks for any adviceTo Bonker
You need be make sure your passport is good for 6 month, Indonesia custom they check if you have a onward ticket leaving Indonesia, I know at manila they don't alway check but in Indo they do.
Fast Eddie 48
I was staying at the Hyatt last week and for the first couple of days I could access ISG then it was blocked for the last day I was there. That was my first trip to jakarta in about a year and the site was always accessable before.
CheersJust use a proxy servers, find them with google. Cheers!
John Aldrich
03-27-12, 17:55
I am going to Manila for 1 week then to Bali for 1 week. I have been to Phillipines before and never had a problem with just my passport. I was checking my flight details and seen I need a visa to enter Indonesia well I went into a panic I am leaving for my trip in April. Then I calmed down and read old posts and seen I just need a passport with 5 blank pages and 25 USD for a temporary visa. My question is did I forget anything else I have money and a passport and viagra am I good to go thanks for any adviceAl nationalities do not have the facility of Visa on Arrival. It depends on the citizenship that you have. Just google and check out whether citizens of your country to which you belong to can avail of Visa on arrival facility. Hope you are entitled to avail that facility.
Cheers
My question is did I forget anything else I have money and a passport and viagra am I good to go thanks for any adviceMaybe condoms?
Maybe condoms?Ok got condoms and I am from USA so I should be able to get a VOA. Any advice of a nice club I can go with my gf to.
John Aldrich
03-28-12, 10:29
Ok got condoms and I am from USA so I should be able to get a VOA. Any advice of a nice club I can go with my gf to.Yes, you can get VOA. Try Mistere at Ritz Carlton or CJ's at Mulia or BATS at Shangrila, if you are keen on listening live bands. You can try Imigran at Plaza Indonesia or Dragon fly at Graha BIP in Jalan Gatot Subroto. These are all top end places.
I am going to Manila for 1 week then to Bali for 1 week. I have been to Phillipines before and never had a problem with just my passport. I was checking my flight details and seen I need a visa to enter Indonesia well I went into a panic .
Yes, you can get VOA. Try Mistere at Ritz Carlton or CJ's at Mulia or BATS at Shangrila, if you are keen on listening live bands. You can try Imigran at Plaza Indonesia or Dragon fly at Graha BIP in Jalan Gatot Subroto. These are all top end places.
Something wrong with the geography?
NO
Ok got condoms and I am from USA so I should be able to get a VOA. Any advice of a nice club I can go with my gf to.Depends where in Bali. If you stay in Kuta, try ViAiPe, Sky Garden, Bounty, Mbargo and all the other clubs at Jalan Legian
John Aldrich
03-28-12, 17:34
Something wrong with the geography?
NOOoooops. Being a Jakarta bloke, I did not register the fact that he is landing in Bali. Thanks for pointing it out Non Olet.
Cheers
Transmuter
04-24-12, 04:41
I stay in Swiss-Belhotel Mangga Besar, Jl Kartini Raya, Jakarta Central. Where can I go not too far away for opportunities?
T
In Borneo, a foundation in favour of the protection of primates organized the release of a young ourang-outan female used during several years as prostitute in a brothel of campaign.
The news is in french : http://asie-info.fr/2012/05/02/pony-une-ourang-outan-prostituee-53163.html
Do you mind to tell where can I find the Golden bird?
It is inthe terminL or out side of the terminal.
Thanks much.
JbAs far as I remember they are all outside. Simply make sure that you get the correct one avoiding the touts.
Do you mind to tell where can I find the Golden bird?
It is inthe terminL or out side of the terminal.
Thanks much.
JbIt is still in the terminal, just pass the doors after customs and you see several boots (golden bird, avis, etc). Conveniently located before you hit the masses. (at least I assume that you arrive at the international terminal.
Silver Bird and Blue Bird are just outside the terminal.
Have fun,
NO
Member #4410
05-03-12, 21:25
In Borneo, a foundation in favour of the protection of primates organized the release of a young ourang-outan female used during several years as prostitute in a brothel of campaign.
The news is in french :
http://asie-info.fr/2012/05/02/pony-une-ourang-outan-prostituee-53163.htmlJust nit-picking here: the animal is called orang utan (litterally "forest man") in the Indonesian language.
This spelling is used in most other languages. Don't know about French; didn't check the link.
Regards,
Ko
In Borneo, a foundation in favour of the protection of primates organized the release of a young ourang-outan female used during several years as prostitute in a brothel of campaign.
The news is in french :
http://asie-info.fr/2012/05/02/pony-une-ourang-outan-prostituee-53163.htmlI think that is just bullshits. It's okay to protect orang utan, but sometimes the foundations too many hoax and without understand the culture here, they just become reactive.
In Borneo, a foundation in favour of the protection of primates organized the release of a young ourang-outan female used during several years as prostitute in a brothel of campaign. The news is in french :
http://asie-info.fr/2012/05/02/pony-une-ourang-outan-prostituee-53163.htmlIf this ever has a degree of truth (ie it really happened) no wonder why certain diseases spread around the world. And no wonder why some urban (or jungle in the case) mythes or legends go around (HIV firstly originated from apes in Africa). Pay attention to the bit mentioning the shaving, resulting in insects easily biting the poor animal and causing additional infections on its skin. Could be safer to drinking an HIV bacteria drink cocktail than having sex (oh weird. I know!) with such an individual.
I think that is just bullshits. It's okay to protect orang utan, but sometimes the foundations too many hoax and without understand the culture here, they just become reactive.I don't think so. I hear it from several sides in Indonesia and I have seen some disgusting photograps of a shaved female orang utan chained to a bed.
TonyIndian
10-18-12, 02:50
Hi,
Where should I go in Indonesia if I want a clean beach with lots of mongering nearby?
John Aldrich
10-18-12, 22:33
Hi,
Where should I go in Indonesia if I want a clean beach with lots of mongering nearby?Head to Lombok islands. From there take ferry to Gilli Travangan islands. They are three small islands with pristine beaches with lots of water games. The airport to land in for Lombok is Mataram. You can pick up a girl from Bali or Jakarta and take her there with you. You can google for details regarding Gilli Travangan.
Or head to Bali and you will find beaches and girls.
Have fun.
Cheers
Heading for Jakarta in a couple of weeks. Please provide latest info on VOA. How much? Currency? Cash?
Thanks!
Hi,
Where should I go in Indonesia if I want a clean beach with lots of mongering nearby?Bali is the place to go if you want that
Heading for Jakarta in a couple of weeks. Please provide latest info on VOA. How much? Currency? Cash?
Thanks!US$25 for 4 weeks. Has to be cash from memory, didn't see any card facilities. Try to have exact change, don't make the mistake I did of handing over $100 and expecting US$ change, or the first screwing for the visit will be via the FX rate when they hand your change back in rupiah! Other currencies accepted, at very poor FX rates, can't remember the list, sorry.
John Aldrich
11-06-12, 22:30
Heading for Jakarta in a couple of weeks. Please provide latest info on VOA. How much? Currency? Cash?
Thanks!Hi Menteng, welcome back home. The VOA charges are USD 25 and you will get a 30 days Visa. In case you want to extend it, you could visit the nearest immigration office and get it extended for another 30 days. Am not sure of the charges, but I believe it must be less than 50 bucks. When are you landing in Jakarta and for how many days. Am leaving for Africa early next week. As of now return is open. Hope you will be around till am back, so that we could catch up for a beer.
It's nice to see one of the mates excited about home coming. Lots have changed after you left. Tanamour and JJ's, I believe have closed down. Not sure whether it closed before you left or after you left Jakarta. But some exciting options have opened up and am sure you will have a memorable trip.
Cheers mate.
Have fun.
Tommy Suharto
11-07-12, 05:04
Heading for Jakarta in a couple of weeks. Please provide latest info on VOA. How much? Currency? Cash?
Thanks!Hi, yes, in addition. Payable in cash, USD. Other major currencies like the Euro are also accepted, but not all currencies. Like the Malaysian Ringgit. It's a bit funny. At Terminal 3, the one that is used by AirAsia, MYR is not accepted there.
Also for VOA, the passport has to be valid for at least 6 months. They have become quite strict. Nowadays they send travelers back if it is less. The old habit of adding a bit of uang rokok, as to straighten things out, doesn't work anymore and has disappeared all together. They calculate it on the day, precisely.
BTW, the best disco in the world closed it's doors in 2004, cheers.
US$25 for 4 weeks. Has to be cash from memory, didn't see any card facilities. Try to have exact change, don't make the mistake I did of handing over $100 and expecting US$ change, or the first screwing for the visit will be via the FX rate when they hand your change back in rupiah! Other currencies accepted, at very poor FX rates, can't remember the list, sorry.Thanks for the input, bro!
Hi Menteng, welcome back home. The VOA charges are USD 25 and you will get a 30 days Visa. In case you want to extend it, you could visit the nearest immigration office and get it extended for another 30 days. Am not sure of the charges, but I believe it must be less than 50 bucks. When are you landing in Jakarta and for how many days. Am leaving for Africa early next week. As of now return is open. Hope you will be around till am back, so that we could catch up for a beer.
It's nice to see one of the mates excited about home coming. Lots have changed after you left. Tanamour and JJ's, I believe have closed down. Not sure whether it closed before you left or after you left Jakarta. But some exciting options have opened up and am sure you will have a memorable trip.
Cheers mate.
Have fun.Thanks John! Will stay at least till the end of February. Hope we can meet before I leave.
BTW, Tanamur and JJ's closed before I left but I'm sure, with the help of others, I will have a memorable trip again.
Hi, yes, in addition. Payable in cash, USD. Other major currencies like the Euro are also accepted, but not all currencies. Like the Malaysian Ringgit. It's a bit funny. At Terminal 3, the one that is used by AirAsia, MYR is not accepted there.
Also for VOA, the passport has to be valid for at least 6 months. They have become quite strict. Nowadays they send travelers back if it is less. The old habit of adding a bit of uang rokok, as to straighten things out, doesn't work anymore and has disappeared all together. They calculate it on the day, precisely.
BTW, the best disco in the world closed it's doors in 2004, cheers.Thanks for the reaction TS. I didn't realize you're a veteran in Jakarta. I'm sorry we've never met during my Jakarta period. Maybe this time?
Tommy Suharto
11-08-12, 01:14
Thanks for the reaction TS. I didn't realize you're a veteran in Jakarta. I'm sorry we've never met during my Jakarta period. Maybe this time?That will be great. I'll be much looking forward to it. I'll be back in January, perhaps we can PM then? I just got back from a month in Jakarta, it was great. Jakarta veteran. No, but since the late eighties already, more like a regular visitor of this warm and beautiful city. I hope you'll have fantastic and fun trip.
That will be great. I'll be much looking forward to it. I'll be back in January, perhaps we can PM then? I just got back from a month in Jakarta, it was great. Jakarta veteran. No, but since the late eighties already, more like a regular visitor of this warm and beautiful city. I hope you'll have fantastic and fun trip.Thanks! Keep in touch and enjoy wherever you are.
Fast Eddie 48
11-08-12, 19:50
Thanks for the input, bro!To Menteng,
They use to offer a 7 day VOA for 10 USD but no more only 30 days for 25 USD now most of the time I only stay a few days, most money changer in Kota ask if I have any RMB because I am Chinese they want RMB over USD or Euro now.
Fast Eddie 48
Cooze Hound
11-09-12, 08:59
Hi Menteng, welcome back home. The VOA charges are USD 25 and you will get a 30 days Visa. In case you want to extend it, you could visit the nearest immigration office and get it extended for another 30 days. Am not sure of the charges, but I believe it must be less than 50 bucks. When are you landing in Jakarta and for how many days. Am leaving for Africa early next week. As of now return is open. Hope you will be around till am back, so that we could catch up for a beer.
It's nice to see one of the mates excited about home coming. Lots have changed after you left. Tanamour and JJ's, I believe have closed down. Not sure whether it closed before you left or after you left Jakarta. But some exciting options have opened up and am sure you will have a memorable trip.
Cheers mate.
Have fun.Some general VOA info. You can pay in IDR if you have it on you, and then you can wind up the officer by paying the USD equivalent as posted on the currency exchange rate at the counter. But they are obliged to accept it, and they will argue because they pocket the difference. Can be a bit of fun but only if the exchange rate makes it worth a go.
VOA extensions are quite the norm, just for 1 month extra. Cost is 250, 000 if you do it your self but its really time consuming and can take up to 3 trips to the Immigration, although it varies which office you go to.
Agents typically charge around 600, 000 IDR and take the pain out. But don't leave it until the last minute. In theory 7 working days prior to expiry you need to start the process.
You will need a photocopy of your passport main details page, a copy of the current VOA visa stamp and a copy of your ticket out.
That's about it, enjoy your stay Menteng.
Cooze and Eddie: Thanks for the (detailed) information. Any chance to meet?
FriendlyPlanet
11-10-12, 07:36
Some general VOA info. You can pay in IDR if you have it on you, and then you can wind up the officer by paying the USD equivalent as posted on the currency exchange rate at the counter. But they are obliged to accept it, and they will argue because they pocket the difference. Can be a bit of fun but only if the exchange rate makes it worth a go.Not sure what you are talking about- they are under no obligation to accept anything but US$25, exact change. For anything else, it seems like it's at the discretion of the officer.
Last trip, I first tried paying with a $50, and they claimed no US change and tried to give me back IDR 230, 000. So then I said that I'd pay in IDR, and they said it was IDR260, 000. Small amount of money, but I could not find one officer willing to budge at either desk. Eventually someone came up who was paying US$25 with exact change, and I just took their money and paid for 2 with my $50.
Not sure what you are talking about- they are under no obligation to accept anything but US$25, exact change. For anything else, it seems like it's at the discretion of the officer.
Last trip, I first tried paying with a $50, and they claimed no US change and tried to give me back IDR 230, 000. So then I said that I'd pay in IDR, and they said it was IDR260, 000. Small amount of money, but I could not find one officer willing to budge at either desk. Eventually someone came up who was paying US$25 with exact change, and I just took their money and paid for 2 with my $50.Anyway, do they insist on crispy clean notes or is the condition of the notes not important?
Fast Eddie 48
11-12-12, 00:16
Anyway, do they insist on crispy clean notes or is the condition of the notes not important?To Menteng.
It depend on the money changer agent some want only new 100 USD with no mark, they will still exhange the bill for a lower rate but if you go to a bank or a larger money changer they are not too picky, all the country that I been to China and Cambodia is the worst they will reject any bill with just a small mark.
Fast Eddie 48
Cooze Hound
11-12-12, 06:31
Not sure what you are talking about- they are under no obligation to accept anything but US$25, exact change. For anything else, it seems like it's at the discretion of the officer.
Last trip, I first tried paying with a $50, and they claimed no US change and tried to give me back IDR 230, 000. So then I said that I'd pay in IDR, and they said it was IDR260, 000. Small amount of money, but I could not find one officer willing to budge at either desk. Eventually someone came up who was paying US$25 with exact change, and I just took their money and paid for 2 with my $50.Each to their own mate, for 2 years I was on VOA until I re established a KITAS. I exited and re entered Indonesia both from Bali and Jakarta numerous times.
I always used IDR to pay my VOA.
Not trying to say what the law is, just how it worked for me.
To Menteng.
It depend on the money changer agent some want only new 100 USD with no mark, they will still exhange the bill for a lower rate but if you go to a bank or a larger money changer they are not too picky, all the country that I been to China and Cambodia is the worst they will reject any bill with just a small mark.
Fast Eddie 48Thanks for the feedback, but I was referring to the money for the VOA.
Fast Eddie 48
11-14-12, 01:35
Thanks for the feedback, but I was referring to the money for the VOA.To Menteng.
I alway have 25 USD with me when I arrive but there are money changer near by can change money if you don't have USD or IDR the rate at the airport are not very good.
Fast Eddie 48
FriendlyPlanet
11-14-12, 18:01
Hey Cooze Hound,
You are right, you can always pay at immigration in IDR. And it's probably not worth getting in a fight with the immigration people over a few dollars exchange difference. And I just didn't understand what you meant about winding up the immigration guy, because it was me getting wound up, not him!
Menting- they accept all but the most tattered dollars. I always bring $25 in US currency on me now- am flying into Jakarta almost every week. Since this is after getting off the plane, but pre-immigration, there are no money changers available- I don't even remember seeing an ATM. Best to bring the US$ cash on you for entry.
Hey Cooze Hound,
You are right, you can always pay at immigration in IDR. And it's probably not worth getting in a fight with the immigration people over a few dollars exchange difference. And I just didn't understand what you meant about winding up the immigration guy, because it was me getting wound up, not him!
Menting- they accept all but the most tattered dollars. I always bring $25 in US currency on me now- am flying into Jakarta almost every week. Since this is after getting off the plane, but pre-immigration, there are no money changers available- I don't even remember seeing an ATM. Best to bring the US$ cash on you for entry.FP, thanks for the info!
Member #4410
12-13-12, 22:29
US$25 for 4 weeks. Has to be cash from memory, didn't see any card facilities. Try to have exact change, don't make the mistake I did of handing over $100 and expecting US$ change, or the first screwing for the visit will be via the FX rate when they hand your change back in rupiah! Other currencies accepted, at very poor FX rates, can't remember the list, sorry.The last time I went with a VOA, after a year of regular travelling in and out with a Kitas, the alternative amount to USD was EUR 20. Condition of the bill was not important. They take your money and hand you a receipt, then you go to the left of the arrival hall, hand over the receipt and receive your VOA on any empty page in your passport. Simple, really.
Regards,
Ko
Member #4410
12-14-12, 22:57
The last time I went with a VOA, after a year of regular travelling in and out with a Kitas, the alternative amount to USD was EUR 20. Condition of the bill was not important. They take your money and hand you a receipt, then you go to the left of the arrival hall, hand over the receipt and receive your VOA on any empty page in your passport. Simple, really.
Regards,
KoSmall addition to the earlier message.
The Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs (BuZa) warns that you should have an entire empty page available in your passport since the Indonesian VOA is a page-sized sticker. More countries have adopted this type of visa since it contains information electronically read from your passport.
Regards,
Ko
FriendlyPlanet
12-18-12, 15:42
Small addition to the earlier message.
The Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs (BuZa) warns that you should have an entire empty page available in your passport since the Indonesian VOA is a page-sized sticker. More countries have adopted this type of visa since it contains information electronically read from your passport.
Regards,
KoThankfully, they reduced the VOA down to 1/4 page sticker about a year ago, otherwise even my 3rd extension on my passport would not be enough!
Always good to have extra blank pages available, though, because you never know what they might object to in the immigration.
John Aldrich
12-20-12, 00:12
Hi,
Heading to Bali next year, any help on best sex hotspots in Sanur-Lovina?Yes. Sure. RTFF.
Cheers
FrenchTouch
02-17-13, 16:53
Hi All,
Was in Jakarta for two days two weeks ago.
Had been chatting with that indo sweetie more or less one year ago when she was still a caregiver in SG. Due to our mutual schedules and possible lack of interest on my end. Had to choose another one I guess. We did not meet at that time.
I took contact again upon going to SG, thinking I was goig to see what was possible. Pics were nice, she seemed open to quite a lot of things. To my surprise, she said she was not in SG anymore.
SO decided to see her when I was going to be in Jakarta, skipping other contacts.
Bought a sim in the airport and we started texting. She was ok to come see me, but then changed her mind, and said she would like to meet near her freinds place in Season mall. Quite north compared to my Jala Gatot Sobroto hotel. (Kartika Chandra, by the way. Near to a dump.).
Decided to go. She was there with her friend, which we agreed before. Friend was quite cute, but in the sumo wrstler division, so no further plans.
I had to do some errands (buy charger for my laptop, withdraw cash) so did it there. Then we headed to Taman Anggrek, and had dinner the three of us. Nice and relax, in a japanese sushi place, which at the end cost around 500 K rupiah.
No issue until then. Small talk, it's hard to find a job here, etc. WELL SWEETIE PIE, you did not graduate, I don't think you will land a bank exec job soon.
UNtil I picked up the tab and realized I had forgotten my visa card in the ATM. Had happened to me before, am not used to this thing that they give the money first and the card afer. I Guess am still surprised that banks give me money. So here I go, spending cash instead of card, and starting to plan on how to manage later. Went back with cab to Seasons mall. Which was good cause it gave us the opprotunity to drop sumo friend. Talked to security (bank was closed, around 930 PM) took the phone number of the bank. Told cutie, let's call her Y, that I was not in the mood for much more, she could stay with her friend, or come with me, but tonight no more outing.
She said ok just wanted to get her stuff in the appartment of her friend. So here we go, through a parking lot and up two different elevators, and reach a well maintained if quite small appartment with mini bedroom and mini living area, maybe 20sqm. Dunno for how much it goes to stay there but decent.
Miss Y had obviously planned to stay away from home. With me. Since she had quite a lot of stuff in a backpack.
20 minutes after we were at the hotel.
I was still a bit pissed at myself, but some hands holding and groping in the cab had made for the tension to lower down or grow, depending what part of my body were referred to.
Once in the room, we talked a bit, then started kissing and groping. Well let me say that Y looks like a ****, tigh short dresses, high heels, etc. And she is a real ****. Ten minutes later at the max, after some groping of her small yet quite cute boobies, she went down on me all of a sudden and started gaving me a wornderful BBBJ, with lots of succion and very expert hand moves, trying to deepthroat even. I was ok with that. She made me climax and took a big load (stay in sg the days before was not a success in that department) like a champ, swallowing all and cleaning my thing throughly after. Please note that in the meantime she was naked up from her waist and sort of refused that I even touched her pussy.
Once I was done spraying her tonsils and she subsequently went to gargle and freshen her breath (my guess) , she came back. Hugged her, kissed her and laid her down with me. I smoked a cig, and then started to kiss and see how I could pay back the favor. She then started to be quite nervous and finally told me she was so sorry but she had her period. Bummer. Well more for her I guess than for me, I could do with her blowing me for the next two days.
I said it's ok, we can play etc. Which we did, I even thought of fucking her with a condom but it was obviously tsunami time.
She nevertheless gave me another awesome BBBJ and I again finished in her mouth. I then slept with a happy smile.
Next morning, I had to go for meetings. I had asked for a quite early wake up call. 630. Which (when I asked was before I know she was on the red side) would allow for a morning session. As I said, hotel is a disaster, and I had the call at 530. Bummer bummer.
Could not sleep again. Short after she woke up too, and I fixed ourselves some coffee. She seemed genuinely happy that I did that. She said never did a guy do that for her. Well am not the kindest person on earth, but offering coffee? Anyway, we talked a bit, and she suddenly asked "when do you need to leave?". I said well since it's one hour earlier than should be, I still have lots f time. I was expecting that she wanted to go breakfast or something. She had in fact another idea and told me to lie down on the bed. She gave me a short massage, which was really a pretext to have me lying down, and short after she was at it again, blowing me to death while I was fondling her tits and rubbing her pussy through her panty.
It took me a while but I finally managed to come for the 3rd time in lesss than 10 hours, which is not so often the case with me. And retrospectively tells about her abilities in the vacuum department.
I took off for work in time, with a much happier face than a normal day.
I had told her I would need to work, and I did not want her to be there all the time since I needed to focus.
Meanwhile, the card issue was not one anymore, bank had retreived the card from the atm and I was told I could pick it up anytime. They would leave it with the security guy.
So we agreed to meet much later in seasons, I gave her 100 K for taxi and food. She took off when I came back around 3PM, visiting her freind in seasons thing again.
I worked for the next 5 hours or so. Then texted her and we agreed to meet in seasons. Which happened around 930. I had told her I would nothave dinner (was not in the mood for picking up the tab for her freind again).
When I arrived, finally got my card. We went a bit through the mall. She was looking at the stalls. I said you want to try a dress? I finally ended paying for a dress that cost like 200K. Which seemed to make her really happy. Which together with the perfume I bought in CDG (sale. 30€) brought my contribution to her wardrobe and accessories to an incredible 50€.
Then I asked what you guys want to do? Relieved from the card stress, I was in a much jollier mood. She said we'll bring you to a nice place. I said fine. We stepped into a cab, and she gave the directions to the guy. I did not listen, since I could not understand.
To my. Pleasant surprise. We landed in Hotel Classic and were just on time for two rows of naked dancers.
Paid entry (75K for me, none for the two girls). Had two or so scotch sodas, friend had pineappel juice and miss Y had a martini. Once sitted, she said something "like it here? I tought you will like it." I asnwered "would you believe me if I said no?" she laughed.
I noted quite a few very good looking and well proportioned naked dancers. I do not know about the system there (yes I know rtff). But if some are going out, might be good. If not, well then just grab a drink and Watch. GROs on the other end are not good looking, et least the ones I laid yes on to.
Once the naked show was done, there was a lousy band playing, and it was time to go back to the hotel.
We arrived like midnight, and of course, I had the mandatory BBBJ. Since her period was not that strong anymore, I banged her wigh a rubber, came on her breasts, and slept, again, with a big smile.
Next morning, I had the Wake up call at asked time. Which allowed for my last BBBJ and tonsil finish. She was even apologizing that I had to use condom the last night, being frightened that it might have hurt me.
I then took off for my SG flight.
Awesome experience and a few lessons learnt :
- never travel without at least one spare CC
- never give up on reviews on agoda for bookings (I had thought it was a smart move to book there since my meetings were nearby and there were these rumors about floods). I did pass the reviews and ended in a really crappy hotel.
- never give up on a Asiandating chatmate when she is promising.
Enjoy
PS : might want to trade info to senior members, since I might not repeat with her, she has been a bit pushy on the BF GF exclusive thing in the weeks after and it might become a bit lasting for me. Especially when her FB activities (I think she forgot she accepted one of my ghost accounts) tend to make me think she is not much less promiscuous than me.
- never travel without at least one spare CC
- never give up on reviews on agoda for bookings (I had thought it was a smart move to book there since my meetings were nearby and there were these rumors about floods). I did pass the reviews and ended in a really crappy hotel.
- never give up on a Asiandating chatmate when she is promising.
EnjoyI second that totally. Lost (well ya forget, I know.) my visa twice. And at the time they had mastercard debit cards disabled outside of europe by standard. I can not say I was happy about that move at the time. .
Thanks for the story, was a good read.
I know it is not the most interesting question but I was wondering. I read the last fifty pages but didn't find an up to date answer.
Every time I went to jakarta I always took a blue bird taxi at the "departure" area just upstairs. I just watch a blue bird in the eyes, throw my little bag in (I travel light) and they put on the meter. Sometimes a security guys seems to take offense and in agreement with the driver I throw 2000 rupiah outside the window. So easy to lose money. And they pick it up and everything goes fine. I notice lately they have more and more police there. Anyone experienced any problems with them?
I guess thats the cheapest way to go taxiwise? Or is it just the same at the arrivals? Bluebirds enough?
As I never tried another way I would like to ask:
- What do you guys do?
- Any fast / easy / very cheap public bus or train transport to thamrin or mangga dua area as I usually stay there?
- What is the usual good negotating price for private drivers?
Thanks
Member #4410
02-22-13, 23:33
I know it is not the most interesting question but I was wondering. I read the last fifty pages but didn't find an up to date answer.
Every time I went to jakarta I always took a blue bird taxi at the "departure" area just upstairs. I just watch a blue bird in the eyes, throw my little bag in (I travel light) and they put on the meter. Sometimes a security guys seems to take offense and in agreement with the driver I throw 2000 rupiah outside the window. So easy to lose money. And they pick it up and everything goes fine. I notice lately they have more and more police there. Anyone experienced any problems with them?
I guess thats the cheapest way to go taxiwise? Or is it just the same at the arrivals? Bluebirds enough?
As I never tried another way I would like to ask:
- What do you guys do?
- Any fast / easy / very cheap public bus or train transport to thamrin or mangga dua area as I usually stay there?
- What is the usual good negotating price for private drivers?
ThanksThe last couple of times I got fed up with the queue for the Bluebird taxis, so I went for the Silver Birds. Same company, only slightly more expensive and no queing. Besides that, arriving at your hotel in a Mercedes is of course mor stylish.
Regards,
Ko
As I never tried another way I would like to ask:
- What do you guys do?
- Any fast / easy / very cheap public bus or train transport to thamrin or mangga dua area as I usually stay there?
- What is the usual good negotating price for private drivers?
ThanksWell there's express taxi but the line obviously equally long.
There's some public transport (damri) but I never used them.
The train is not build yet, soon though.
Don't use one of private driver / black market taxi, there's no guarantee of your safety.
If you are with some company and want private driver go the golden bird counter right when you are exiting, they offer private car with driver.
Cooze Hound
03-01-13, 09:54
- Any fast / easy / very cheap public bus or train transport to thamrin or mangga dua area as I usually stay there?
ThanksGet the Damri Bus one route goes to Mangga Dua Square, I think its the Kemayoran bus. 25, 000 IDR and very comfortable.
They also go to Blok M, stop by Blok M Plaza. Get the ticket at a kiosk at the terminals, just cross the first lane and you will see the booths.
there is a Damri.co.id website, and navigate to the trayek\tarif page for more info.
Fast Eddie 48
03-13-13, 10:59
Get the Damri Bus one route goes to Mangga Dua Square, I think its the Kemayoran bus. 25, 000 IDR and very comfortable.
They also go to Blok M, stop by Blok M Plaza. Get the ticket at a kiosk at the terminals, just cross the first lane and you will see the booths.
There is a Damri. Co. I'd website, and navigate to the trayek\tarif page for more info.Cooze,
I have a late flight a few weeks ago got to Gambri around 8. 30 pm but they told me the last bus is 8pm, I have taking bus from airport as late as 10pm before to Gambri not sure they change the time and the website info is not alway correct so I take a taxi 100k to the airport from Gambri.
Fast Eddie 48
Mighty Spearsman
03-14-13, 00:43
I know it is not the most interesting question but I was wondering. I read the last fifty pages but didn't find an up to date answer.
Every time I went to Jakarta I always took a blue bird taxi at the "departure" area just upstairs. I just watch a blue bird in the eyes, throw my little bag in (I travel light) and they put on the meter. Sometimes a security guys seems to take offense and in agreement with the driver I throw 2000 rupiah outside the window. So easy to lose money. And they pick it up and everything goes fine. I notice lately they have more and more police there. Anyone experienced any problems with them?
I guess that's the cheapest way to go taxiwise? Or is it just the same at the arrivals? Bluebirds enough?
As I never tried another way I would like to ask:
- What do you guys do?
- Any fast / easy / very cheap public bus or train transport to thamrin or mangga dua area as I usually stay there?
- What is the usual good negotiating price for private drivers?
ThanksThere was a flurry of posts on this subject about 5 years ago, but nothing recently.
Esteemed Senior member Bulai69 had written several posts advocating that one should go to the departures level and hop into a cab that had just dropped off someone. However, I'm not surprised to read that there's now more security than before.
Taking a bus can be iffy in Jakarta if you're new to the scene, and risky if you arrive after dark.
I agree with Koperen Karel. The best way to get into town (unless you're really broke) is by Silver Bird. It's only 10-20 thousand more rupiah that Blue Bird, there's usually little or no wait for a taxi, the ride is more comfortable, there's more room in the trunk for luggage, and the drivers speak better English.
Mighty Spearsman
03-14-13, 00:52
Hi All,
Was in Jakarta for two days two weeks ago.
PS : might want to trade info to senior members, since I might not repeat with her, she has been a bit pushy on the BF GF exclusive thing in the weeks after and it might become a bit lasting for me. Especially when her FB activities (I think she forgot she accepted one of my ghost accounts) tend to make me think she is not much less promiscuous than me.Great story. I especially chuckled at the last sentence, since yes these young ladies are in reality quite promiscuous, despite their protestations to the contrary. As long as a monger keeps that thought in his brain, and keeps things in perspective, things will go ok.
Romello Skuggs
03-22-13, 02:52
http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/unmarried-sex-in-indon-could-be-illegal/story-e6frfq80-1226602939850
Member #4410
03-22-13, 22:22
http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/unmarried-sex-in-indon-could-be-illegal/story-e6frfq80-1226602939850Looks like a really reliable source to me :-D.
Regards,
Ko
Master Diver II
03-25-13, 12:36
http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/unmarried-sex-in-indon-could-be-illegal/story-e6frfq80-1226602939850Let me see now: isn't this the same country with the anti-porno laws that also don't allow women to walk around in mini skirts? No wonder everyone has been so dressed up in CJs / BATS / Jln Falatehan. Even if it's the law, enforcement is another thing.
MD II
Can anyone recommend a cheap call card to call Indonesia from the UK?
Robert Long
04-03-13, 07:00
Can anyone recommend a cheap call card to call Indonesia from the UK?Download Skype. Video is free or just calling is usually the best price. I talk to Bali everyday by video and it is usually a good conection, sometimes not so good but on average ok. And it is free. You do need to be conected to the internet so we use Smart in Bali. Reasonable at 100, 000 a month.
RL
[QUOTE=Awesome experience and a few lessons learnt :
- never travel without at least one spare CC
- never give up on reviews on agoda for bookings (I had thought it was a smart move to book there since my meetings were nearby and there were these rumors about floods). I did pass the reviews and ended in a really crappy hotel.
- never give up on a Asiandating chatmate when she is promising.
Enjoy
PS : might want to trade info to senior members, since I might not repeat with her, she has been a bit pushy on the BF GF exclusive thing in the weeks after and it might become a bit lasting for me. Especially when her FB activities (I think she forgot she accepted one of my ghost accounts) tend to make me think she is not much less promiscuous than me.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the nice report about the Tsunami time :P. I liked the lesson learned part you added. Really a quick reminder.
Thanks / Gajith.
Download Skype. Video is free or just calling is usually the best price. I talk to Bali everyday by video and it is usually a good conection, sometimes not so good but on average ok. And it is free. You do need to be conected to the internet so we use Smart in Bali. Reasonable at 100, 000 a month.
RLThe girl In Bali has no broadband or 3G, so was looking for cheap call card.
FieldMouse
04-11-13, 19:15
I have not been to jak for a couple of years but coming back again soon.
I have heard that the sporties bar on Paletehan is closing, can anyone confirm this? This is a tragedy! Are any of the other bars in the street also closing?
The other question is, I am travelling with 2 friends and we are all bringing golf clubs. Are there any taxis now operating out of the airport big enough for 3 guys, a few bags plus golf clubs?
Thanks for any info.
Fieldmouse
The girl In Bali has no broadband or 3G, so was looking for cheap call card.I have been using PLANET NUMBERS. You text a message to a given number and it bills your mobile account with £5. I think the charges are about 1. 5p per minute to Indonesia.
To use it you dial a UK number and enter a pin number before dialling your GF number. I've used this for Indonesia and my UK based Thai GF uses it to call home to Thailand (better rateat1p / min)
Google them to find number.
SK
I have not been to jak for a couple of years but coming back again soon.
I have heard that the sporties bar on Paletehan is closing, can anyone confirm this? This is a tragedy! Are any of the other bars in the street also closing?
The other question is, I am travelling with 2 friends and we are all bringing golf clubs. Are there any taxis now operating out of the airport big enough for 3 guys, a few bags plus golf clubs?
Thanks for any info.
FieldmouseI think Blue Bird Taxi group (Silver Bird or Golden Bird) have a big cab, like Toyota Alphard. It would meet your need, I guess.
About the bar, I don't know, never go there.
AussieDoug
04-12-13, 11:23
I have not been to jak for a couple of years but coming back again soon.
I have heard that the sporties bar on Paletehan is closing, can anyone confirm this? This is a tragedy! Are any of the other bars in the street also closing?
The other question is, I am travelling with 2 friends and we are all bringing golf clubs. Are there any taxis now operating out of the airport big enough for 3 guys, a few bags plus golf clubs?
Thanks for any info.
FieldmouseSportsman Club closed at least a few years now. Pretty the waitress has moved down to D's place.
Sportsman Club closed at least a few years now.I had to meet someone in Sportsman's last November, so it was still kinda open then. I noticed the security had changed (no longer the marines) and the service was awful.
Jl Pelatehan is a graveyard. Got hassled in one of the newish pubs by an old hag who must have drunkenly mistaken me as her ex. D's was so short of punters they asked me to do the lucky draw for a measly 50, 000 Rp prize. Even the decent Satay stalls have moved out. So I would advise anyone wanting some fun in Jakarta to learn some basic bahasa and stick to the North / Kota area
Member #4410
04-12-13, 23:18
I have not been to jak for a couple of years but coming back again soon.
I have heard that the sporties bar on Paletehan is closing, can anyone confirm this? This is a tragedy! Are any of the other bars in the street also closing?
The other question is, I am travelling with 2 friends and we are all bringing golf clubs. Are there any taxis now operating out of the airport big enough for 3 guys, a few bags plus golf clubs?
Thanks for any info.
FieldmouseI was there in December / January. Top Gun and D's were open and busy. My Bar was quiet, but that is not unusual before 12. Highway to Elle was open but Quiet. Oscars was open but quiet. Did not go to Sportsman.
The VIP-room in D's Place was in "full" swing and I had a few pleasant BBBJ's there as well as shagging one of the young dancers.
I don't know if and / or why thing should have gone downhill so quickly.
Regards,
Ko
I have not been to jak for a couple of years but coming back again soon.
I have heard that the sporties bar on Paletehan is closing, can anyone confirm this? This is a tragedy! Are any of the other bars in the street also closing?
The other question is, I am travelling with 2 friends and we are all bringing golf clubs. Are there any taxis now operating out of the airport big enough for 3 guys, a few bags plus golf clubs?
Thanks for any info.
FieldmouseGet tiara express or silver bird ask for alphard taxi.
Or you can ask the booking for golden bird to get you a car and driver to get to your hotel
Cooze Hound
04-17-13, 13:39
Sportsman Club closed at least a few years now. Pretty the waitress has moved down to D's place.It closed about 3 weeks ago, on a Sunday night, they had a "bash" to see it off. Not that I managed to attend.
Member #4414
04-17-13, 19:18
It closed about 3 weeks ago, on a Sunday night, they had a "bash" to see it off.D's place, closed? Or Sportsman Club?
Cooze Hound
04-18-13, 07:01
D's place, closed? Or Sportsman Club?Sportsmans.
HELLO. Taking gF out for a night at a club. She has actually never been to one! Looking for club that is fun and MOST IMPORTANTLY pick a girl to go home with us. I am in the south and not a lot of clubs under my belt.
Choices (add to it please)
X2-heard here and other sites. Plastic people. Mostly indo Chinese. Very few working. I have never been.
BATS-I love it but too old for her I think.
Red Square-Fun for people watching but never picked one up here.
Stadium-never been here. Is it safe?
Advice gentlemen. You have 5. 6 hours to answer this!
HELP!
Member #4410
05-28-13, 22:32
This is from the website of the Indonesian Embassy.
National Holiday for 2013.
No Date Day National Holiday.
1. January 1 Tuesday New Year 2013.
2. January 24 Thursday Islamic Prophet Muhammad's Birthday.
3. February 10 Sunday Lunar / Chinese New Year.
4. March 12 Tuesday Balinese New Year 1935 (Balinese 'Day of Silence')
5. March 29 Friday Good Friday.
6. May 9 Thursday Jesus Christ's Ascension Day.
7. May 25 Saturday Vesak Day 2557 (Buddha's Bithday)
8. June 6 Thursday Prophet Muhammad's Ascension Day (Isra Mi'raj)
9. August 8 & 9 Thursday– Friday Eid al- Fitr (1-2 Syawal 1434 H)
10. August 17 Saturday National Independence Day.
11. October 15 Tuesday Eid al- Adha (Islamic Feast of the Sacrifice)
12. November 5 Tuesday Islamic New Year 1435.
13. December 25 Wednesday Christmas Day.
Regards,
Ko
John Aldrich
06-03-13, 20:20
Reading this report gave a scare.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/Oral-sex-caused-my-mouth-cancer-Michael-Douglas-says/articleshow/20402970.cms
It shook the shit out of me.
Cheers
Reading this report gave a scare.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/Oral-sex-caused-my-mouth-cancer-Michael-Douglas-says/articleshow/20402970.cms
It shook the shit out of me.
CheersWhat, you did not know? Other than human papilloma virus you could also attract herpes which also can give nasty stuff if you are unlucky. It is mostly risk calculation and knowing what you are willing to accept, same counts for BBJ. As for virusses there is really still no real treatment.
Towelboy2010
07-09-13, 03:02
I have the opportunity to work at a Flight School in Cilacap, Central Java, for 1 year.
I am 58 and enjoy Asian women.
I am American and speak only English.
Have been to SEA (mainly Philippines) about 10 times in 7 recent years.
What are the chances of meeting women in an obscure place like Cilacap? I am not necessarily looking for quick P4P. I would have plenty of time to get to know the women there. Perhaps what I am wondering is it possible to develop a part time girlfriend here as it is in the Philippines. I have been to the Phils a few times from 2003 to 2011.
What is the standard of living in a place like Cilacap? I was told I could rent a house for $2000 for a year. I am wondering what type of house it is for that little money and would I be happy living there. A / C? TV? Internet?
ANY insight would help me decide whether or not to take the job.
Thanks, Bob
I have the opportunity to work at a Flight School in Cilacap, Central Java, for 1 year.
I am 58 and enjoy Asian women.
I am American and speak only English.
Have been to SEA (mainly Philippines) about 10 times in 7 recent years.
What are the chances of meeting women in an obscure place like Cilacap? I am not necessarily looking for quick P4P. I would have plenty of time to get to know the women there. Perhaps what I am wondering is it possible to develop a part time girlfriend here as it is in the Philippines. I have been to the Phils a few times from 2003 to 2011.
What is the standard of living in a place like Cilacap? I was told I could rent a house for $2000 for a year. I am wondering what type of house it is for that little money and would I be happy living there. A / C? TV? Internet?
ANY insight would help me decide whether or not to take the job.
Thanks, BobHave no experience directly in Cilacap, but have lived for a few years in 4 other cities in Indonesia. Every chance that you can set yourself up with a nice house and part-time girlfriend. Been there, done that. My advice is to take it slow and steady and think everything out. For example if you take a large house you will require staff. May complicate your gf activities, so think this one through. Long term in a hotel may be an option as some have suites that can be rented long-term at reasonable rates and you gf comings and goings are easier to manage.
LordOfTheFlies
07-31-13, 12:05
Have no experience directly in Cilacap, but have lived for a few years in 4 other cities in Indonesia. Every chance that you can set yourself up with a nice house and part-time girlfriend. Been there, done that. My advice is to take it slow and steady and think everything out. For example if you take a large house you will require staff. May complicate your gf activities, so think this one through. Long term in a hotel may be an option as some have suites that can be rented long-term at reasonable rates and you gf comings and goings are easier to manage.I am familiar with Cilacap. It is a small place but as in all Indo towns monger friendly. You could pick up a girl friend from elsewhere in Indonesia and have her live with you in Cilacap.
Member #4537
10-08-13, 14:13
Just read that there is a high possibility the new Rupiah banknotes will be in circulation from January 2014 and will have three zeros chopped from. So a 100,000 Rupiah banknote will. Now become a 100 banknote.
Let's hope it doesn't mean inflation for our favourite nightspots especially those in Kota.
Joel Goodsen
10-16-13, 10:42
Just read that there is a high possibility the new Rupiah banknotes will be in circulation from January 2014 and will have three zeros chopped from. So a 100, 000 Rupiah banknote will. Now become a 100 banknote.
Let's hope it doesn't mean inflation for our favourite nightspots especially those in Kota.Inflation. Yes well, I believe this is still under debate. The way I understand it, it will never be implemented until after the election, pending agreement, may be in 2016.
BTW, correct me if I am wrong, but as you mentioned 750k as the standard ST rate for blok M in the Jakarta thread a couple of times (maximum ST rate is 500k).
Hope you don't mind, but you warning about inflation is the same as a bajaj driver warning about pollution and the environment.
Daan Mogot
10-28-13, 06:01
I have a question for the forum about Nikah Siri. I guess, it will be more a question for the Indonesian residents and long-time travelers.
Nikah Siri stands for secret marriage, nikah di bawa tangan ("marriage in the lower hand"). You can Google it if you don't understand what it means.
As a foreigner, a bule, I just would like to know if there are any pitfalls doing so. The situation is, I am married overseas and have been traveling to this beautiful country for more than 2 decades. Had heaps of fun, many gf's, but with the latest one a little accident. Unplanned pregnancy.
Nikah siri was mentioned as a possible solution. The way I understand it, with Nikah siri, the marriage does not get officially recorded. And doing so, it may save the girl's respect to her family, fiends and colleagues. At the same, I would not be recorded as married in two different countries. Which technically, in my home country I believe, would be illegal.
If you have any helpful thoughts or suggestions on this, much appreciated, please post back.
Thank you
Offshore Swell
10-28-13, 16:37
I have a question for the forum about Nikah Siri. I guess, it will be more a question for the Indonesian residents and long-time travelers.
Nikah Siri stands for secret marriage, nikah di bawa tangan ("marriage in the lower hand"). You can Google it if you don't understand what it means.
As a foreigner, a bule, I just would like to know if there are any pitfalls doing so. The situation is, I am married overseas and have been traveling to this beautiful country for more than 2 decades. Had heaps of fun, many gf's, but with the latest one a little accident. Unplanned pregnancy.
Nikah siri was mentioned as a possible solution. The way I understand it, with Nikah siri, the marriage does not get officially recorded. And doing so, it may save the girl's respect to her family, fiends and colleagues. At the same, I would not be recorded as married in two different countries. Which technically, in my home country I believe, would be illegal.
If you have any helpful thoughts or suggestions on this, much appreciated, please post back.
Thank youMy understanding on this is that if you are married at the time of birth it assists with the registration of the child and entry into schools etc etc. My other understanding is that nikah siri can only be done if you are both muslim. It is not a great situation for the girl but I think it is far more preferable than being completely unmarried. For her. I am far from an expert on these matters though.
Hope that helps.
Regards.
OS
Daan Mogot
10-30-13, 13:35
My understanding on this is that if you are married at the time of birth it assists with the registration of the child and entry into schools etc etc. My other understanding is that nikah siri can only be done if you are both muslim. It is not a great situation for the girl but I think it is far more preferable than being completely unmarried. For her. I am far from an expert on these matters though.
Hope that helps.
Regards
OSThank you for the kind reply, OS.
Yes, I agree, normally Nikah Siri ('secret marriage') would be far from ideal for a girl. But in this instance, the girl suggested it herself. The reason for her to do so, is that she is a bit shy with the situation. I would not say she was necessarily planning for it, but 'hoping' would perhaps be a better description.
I am actually not sure, if both have to be Muslim for Nikah Siri. Christens can do this as well. I think.
The way I understand it, it is just a simple ceremony where members of the RT (Rukun Tetangga. Neighborhood area) join in and where a copy of the kartu identitas (Copy passport for foreigners, I guess) is handed over to the "Ketua RT" (local community chairman). But I much welcome any helpful information on this. May be it is not as simple as I think it is?
Cooze Hound
10-31-13, 07:29
Thank you for the kind reply, OS.
I am actually not sure, if both have to be Muslim for Nikah Siri. Christens can do this as well. I think.Essentially for a foreigner to marry a Muslim girl in Indonesia, the guy is legally obliged to convert to become Muslim.
The fly in the ointment, to have the simple type of ceremony in a Muslim setting but avoiding the civil registry is that you will have to show a Certificate of No Impediment, I. E you are legally able to marry and do not have a wife in England or any place.
Mind you I am sure a "gratuity payment" would get you around that.
There a specialist legal firm who advises on these matters, maybe it is worth considering? Wijayaco dot com
Hey all,
Going be travelling through Indonesia for a few weeks fromSunday. Just wondering if someone could give an update on current prices for FLs ST / LT in Jakarta? Also are prices much cheaper outside of the capital, I'll be in Sumatra as well as other spots on Java. Finally how are local girls with threesomes? In Thailand most don't go for it, how are the Indonesian ladies in comparison? Thanks for any help, I promise to put up a few reports when in.
Daan Mogot
11-01-13, 16:02
Essentially for a foreigner to marry a Muslim girl in Indonesia, the guy is legally obliged to convert to become Muslim.
The fly in the ointment, to have the simple type of ceremony in a Muslim setting but avoiding the civil registry is that you will have to show a Certificate of No Impediment, I. E you are legally able to marry and do not have a wife in England or any place.
Mind you I am sure a "gratuity payment" would get you around that.
There a specialist legal firm who advises on these matters, maybe it is worth considering? Wijayaco dot comThank you for the much needed pixie dust, Cooze Hound. You are awesome. I could have never worked it out by myself, thank you.
Talking to the experts, these are some of my findings.
1. Nikah Siri. If you are married overseas and can't divorce in the short term, is a workable solution.
2. It is marriage in the eyes of god, only. Nothing else. You just make sure that nothing get's registered during the ceremony.
3. Yes, correct, you need to convert to Muslim for Nikah Siri. But that is quite easy.
Look, just to prevent any misunderstanding with readers of this forum, I just would like to say, I am doing this for the girl, not for myself. The girl knew I was married overseas and I have repeatedly told her I was not available and have asked her to look for a nice boyfriend.
She didn't want to hear about it and we spend two weeks together. During which she got pregnant. She may have seen it as an opportunity for a better life. I don't know. She suggested herself Nikah Siri. And now that I know the facts, I am willing to help with that.
Thank you.
Nika sirih is not a "secret" marriage as such, merely a marriage that is not registered with the state and is in fact very common in Indonesia where people don't want to bother / can't afford a state-sanctioned marriage with all the bureaucracy and cost that entails. You simply pop down to the mosque and get married and to the family that is fine, you're married in the eyes of God and that's good enough and if the girl is up the duff, no problem she's married and that's an end of it (you can divorce ten minutes later, just as long as the girl was married everyone's happy).
This gets taken advantage of in places like Puncak when hypocritical Muslim tourists, mostly Arabs, who would never dream of hiring a prostitute, heaven forbid such women should be stoned to death,"marry" a local girl for a fortnight for a fee to ease their conscience and then divorce her before going to the airport. Everything's above board and not a hint of prostitution to the deal at all, no siree.
However the problem comes if you are not actually a Muslim, the ustad might raise an eyebrow about performing a marriage in those circumstances asking for proof you are a Muslim or asking you to convert prior to the ceremony. Converting is a piece of cake, you'll need to confirm you are circimcised but they don't actually check. Because it is not a state-approved marriage they have no means of asking you about prior wives but as Islam permits polygamy this might not be a big deal.
If you want to go down this route, and I agree that it saves the girl and her family a lot of "face", it should not present too many obstacles to anyone prepared to grease the palms of the requisite mosque official, it is something however that you should let the girl and her family handle and pay up whatever is asked (it will amount to less than you'd pay for a night out in a top class bordello). In the eyes of the state, both Indonesia and your home country, the marriage will not count so have no fears about later problems but to the girl and her family it will mean everything and save her and them from a great deal of shame.
Daan Mogot
11-02-13, 13:30
In the eyes of the state, both Indonesia and your home country, the marriage will not count so have no fears about later problemsMaybe. Just making sure nothing get's recorded, won't harm.
but to the girl and her family it will mean everything and save her and them from a great deal of shame.Yes, very much so. Local Indonesian communities can be unforgiving, it will mean a big difference for the family.
Yes, very much so. Local Indonesian communities can be unforgiving, it will mean a big difference for the family.In my opinion for what it's worth as a mangy old immoral monger, you're doing the right thing. We all have fun here, occasionally things don't go according to plan and we end up hurting someone or putting them in a very bad spot, some of us run away, some of us try to put it right.
If you get married you will be helping this girl out immeasurably at little or no cost to yourself, marriage is Indonesia are contracted and broken at a whim. They in themselves count for little other than the fact that the marriage took place. It means the difference between a girl being a respectable housewife with a child and being a wh0re and moral danger to the youth of the village who must be shunned along with all her family. Call it stupid hypocrisy, call it bigotry, call it what you like but it's the way it is.
Once married she has the pride of knowing she had a western husband and her child had a father. You can then bugger off and enjoy yourself after the divorce which is even easier than the marriage and nothing more need be said about it.
Or, who knows, you might like the idea of having a wee wifey and a kid down the kampung and pop in every so often to see how junior's getting along.
Daan Mogot
11-04-13, 06:39
In my opinion for what it's worth as a mangy old immoral monger, you're doing the right thing. We all have fun here, occasionally things don't go according to plan and we end up hurting someone or putting them in a very bad spot, some of us run away, some of us try to put it right.
If you get married you will be helping this girl out immeasurably at little or no cost to yourself, marriage is Indonesia are contracted and broken at a whim. They in themselves count for little other than the fact that the marriage took place. It means the difference between a girl being a respectable housewife with a child and being a wh0re and moral danger to the youth of the village who must be shunned along with all her family. Call it stupid hypocrisy, call it bigotry, call it what you like but it's the way it is.
Once married she has the pride of knowing she had a western husband and her child had a father. You can then bugger off and enjoy yourself after the divorce which is even easier than the marriage and nothing more need be said about it.
Or, who knows, you might like the idea of having a wee wifey and a kid down the kampung and pop in every so often to see how junior's getting along.Yes, I guess so, it is about making an effort to do the right thing. And it's as you say, at almost no cost to oneself. Dumping the girl would be the easy option. Looking around in the Jakarta bars, it happens quite frequently. So maybe some information on nikah siri should be getting out there?
On a personal note, the whole thing put me in severe depression. For three weeks. Until posting here. So please stop being so intelligent and nice, otherwise I'll invite you guys to the wedding party. Happy mongering, much enjoy Jakarta.
Buddies,
01. Got several PMs enquiring as to what are the basic "Tarzan Bahasa Indonesia" usable on my various "huntings".
02. Got several useful words / sentences for your usage.
03. Appreciate if other buddies can extend the Listing, accordingly.
Ciao,
Pete33.
Bahasa Indonesia Starter
Bahasa Indonesia. English
Selamat pagi. Good morning.
Selamat siang / sore / malam. Good afternoon / evening / night
Apa kabar?. How are you?
Baik-baik! (most common greeting and response). Good!
Ya. Yes
Mereka. They, them
Tidak. No
Terima kasih. Thanks
Tolong!. Help!
Tidak, terima kasih. No, thanks
Tolong. Please
Sama-sama. You're welcome
Tidak apa-apa. No problem
Okey. OK
Maaf. Excuse me
Maafkan saya. I'm sorry
Apakah ada. – Is there. .
Saya tidak punya!. I don't have any!
Tidak apa-apa!. That's right!
Sedikit saja. A little bit
Banyak sekali. A lot
Banyak sekali ada. . There are a lot of. .
Sini. Here
Sana. There
Semua beres?. Is everything OK?
Tidak sekarang. Not now
Dimana-mana. Everywhere
Tidak ada. Nothing
Hampir. Almost
Awas!. Attention / Watch out!
Cepat!. Hurry!
Api!. Fire!
Berhenti!. Stop!
Sekarang. Now
Saya cari. – I am looking for. .
Tolong beri saya. . Please give me. .
Bagi-bagi yah. Divide this among you
Kemarin. Yesterday
Hari ini. Today
Besok. Tomorrow
Pagi ini. This morning
Siang ini. This afternoon
Malam ini. This evening
Senin. Monday
Selasa. Tuesday
Rabu. Wednesday
Kamis. Thursday
Jumat. Friday
Sabtu. Saturday
Minggu. Sunday
Kamu tidak apa-apa?. You OK?
Saya kurang sehat. I'm not too well
Saya sakit. I'm sick
Ada kecelakaan. There was an accident
Mohon dokter / bidan segera. We need a doctor / a nurse right now
Dimana rumah sakit?. Where is the hospital?
Sakitnya dimana?. Where does it hurt you?
Dia hamil. She's pregnant
Saya tidak bisa makan / tidur. I cannot eat / sleep
Saya sakit perut. I have diarrhea
Saya pusing. I feel nauseated
Badan saya panas. My whole body is hot
Kita butuh pelester / kapas. We need bandages / cotton
Saya butuh sesuatu untuk robekan ini. I need something for this cut
Kamu ada HIV-AIDS. You have AIDS
Saya lapar- I'm hungry
Saya haus. I'm very thirsty
Kami mau makan / pesan makanan. We would like to eat.
Berapa?. How much?
Kenapa?. Why?
Dimana?. Where?
Apa?. What?
Kapan?. When?
Siapa?. Who?
Bagaimana?. How?
Yang mana?. Which?
Ada kah. ?. Is / Are there. ?
Apakah punya. ?. Do you have. ?
Bisa kah saya di tolong?. Can you help me please?
Dimana saya dapat beli?. Where can we buy?
Dapat kah Anda tunjukan?. Can you tell me?
Tunjuk. Show.
Beri. Give.
Siapa di situ?. Who is there?
Apa Anda mau?. What do you want?
Apa Anda inginkan?. What would you like?
Apa Anda lakukan disitu?. What are you doing there?
Apa itu?. What is that?
Ada apa?. What's the matter?
Apa yang harus kita perbuat?. What must we do?
Apakah Anda lihat?. Have you seen?
Bisa Bahasa Inggris?. Do you speak English?
Siapa bisa Bahasa Inggris disini?. Who speaks English here?
Anda mengerti?. You understand?
Apa ini dalam Bahasa Indonesia?. What do they call this in Indonesian?
Anda butuh apa?. What do you need?
Apa terjadi pada kamu?. What happened to you?
Kamu kemana?. Where did he go?
Berapa umur kamu?. How old are you?
Tinggal dimana?. Where do you live?
Sudah punya anak?. Do you have any children?
Kita dimana?. Where are we?
Beli. To buy
Panggil. To call, name
Bersih. To clean
Tutup. To close
Paksa. To coerce, force
Selesaikan. To finish
Menurut. To obey
Percaya. To trust
Mati. To die
Menggambar. To draw, sketch
Minum. To drink
Jatuh. To drop, fall
Naik. Embark, load, board
Kamu. You, your
Saya. I, me, my, mine
Kita. Us, our, you (plural)
Dia. Him, her
PRONUNCIATION GUIDE.
Bahasa Indonesia is written phonetically.
Each letter is pronounced, and each word is spelled as it is pronounced.
Member #4410
11-08-13, 02:33
I have inserted some comments on pronunciation, as this can sometimes be a little confusing.
Buddies,
01. Got several PMs enquiring as to what are the basic "Tarzan Bahasa Indonesia" usable on my various "huntings".
02. Got several useful words / sentences for your usage.
03. Appreciate if other buddies can extend the Listing, accordingly.
Ciao,
Pete33.
Bahasa Indonesia Starter
Bahasa Indonesia. English
Selamat pagi. Good morning. <insert: selamat is pronounced as "slamat", one of the many examples of silent vowels
Selamat siang / sore / malam. Good afternoon / evening / night
Apa kabar. How are you?
Baik-baik! (most common greeting and response). Good!
Ya. Yes
Mereka. They, them
Tidak. No <insert: in this case the "k" is silent so it is pronounced as "tida" (or "tidah" if you prefer)
Terima kasih. Thanks <insert: "terima" is usualy pronounced as "trima", another example of silent vowels
Tolong. Help!
Tidak, terima kasih. No, thanks
Tolong. Please <insert: can be replaced by "silahkan"
Sama-sama. You're welcome
Tidak apa-apa. No problem
Okey. OK
Maaf. Excuse me
Maafkan saya. I'm sorry
Apakah ada. – Is there. .
Saya tidak punya. I don't have any!
Tidak apa-apa. That's right! <insert: I'm not sure about this. I think the above translation is better. For "That's right" I have always used "betul" (pronounced "betoel")
Sedikit saja. A little bit
Banyak sekali. A lot
Banyak sekali ada. There are a lot of. .
Sini. Here <insert: I think this should be "disini"
Sana. There < "disana"
Semua beres. Is everything OK?
Tidak sekarang. Not now
Dimana-mana. Everywhere
Tidak ada. Nothing
Hampir. Almost
Awas. Attention / Watch out!
Cepat. Hurry! <insert: pronounced "tsjepat"
Api. Fire! <insert: "api" is not always alarming. For instance "kerata api" is simply a train, harking back to the days of the steam locomotive
Berhenti. Stop!
Sekarang. Now
Saya cari. – I am looking for. .
Tolong beri saya. Please give me. .
Bagi-bagi yah. Divide this among you
Kemarin. Yesterday
Hari ini. Today
Besok. Tomorrow
Pagi ini. This morning
Siang ini. This afternoon
Malam ini. This evening
Senin. Monday <insert: strictly speaking this should be "hari senin (or senen) , hari meaning day ;
Selasa. Tuesday
Rabu. Wednesday
Kamis. Thursday
Jumat. Friday
Sabtu. Saturday
Minggu. Sunday
Kamu tidak apa-apa. You OK?
Saya kurang sehat. I'm not too well
Saya sakit. I'm sick
Ada kecelakaan. There was an accident
Mohon dokter / bidan segera. We need a doctor / a nurse right now
Dimana rumah sakit. Where is the hospital?
Sakitnya dimana. Where does it hurt you?
Dia hamil. She's pregnant
Saya tidak bisa makan / tidur. I cannot eat / sleep
Saya sakit perut. I have diarrhea <insert: or generally: stomach ache / pain
Saya pusing. I feel nauseated
Badan saya panas. My whole body is hot
Kita butuh pelester / kapas. We need bandages / cotton
Saya butuh sesuatu untuk robekan ini. I need something for this cut
Kamu ada HIV-AIDS. You have AIDS <insert: this is slightly dubious; are you a qualified doctor?
Saya lapar- I'm hungry
Saya haus. I'm very thirsty
Kami mau makan / pesan makanan. We would like to eat.
Berapa. How much?
Kenapa. Why?
Dimana. Where?
Apa. What?
Kapan. When?
Siapa. Who?
Bagaimana. How?
Yang mana. Which?
Ada kah. Is / Are there. ?
Apakah punya. Do you have. ?
Bisa kah saya di tolong. Can you help me please?
Dimana saya dapat beli. Where can we buy?
Dapat kah Anda tunjukan. Can you tell me?
Tunjuk. Show.
Beri. Give.
Siapa di situ. Who is there?
Apa Anda mau. What do you want? <insert: shouldn't this be: Anda mau apa?
Apa Anda inginkan. What would you like?
Apa Anda lakukan disitu. What are you doing there?
Apa itu. What is that?
Ada apa. What's the matter?
Apa yang harus kita perbuat. What must we do?
Apakah Anda lihat. Have you seen?
Bisa Bahasa Inggris. Do you speak English?
Siapa bisa Bahasa Inggris disini. Who speaks English here?
Anda mengerti. You understand?
Apa ini dalam Bahasa Indonesia. What do they call this in Indonesian?
Anda butuh apa. What do you need?
Apa terjadi pada kamu. What happened to you?
Kamu kemana. Where did he go?
Berapa umur kamu. How old are you?
Tinggal dimana. Where do you live?
Sudah punya anak. Do you have any children?
Kita dimana. Where are we?
Beli. To buy <insert: pronounced "bli", another silent vowel
Panggil. To call, name
Bersih. To clean
Tutup. To close
Paksa. To coerce, force
Selesaikan. To finish
Menurut. To obey
Percaya. To trust <insert: Also used in the sense of "to believe" (as in religion)
Mati. To die <insert also used in the sense of "died" or "dead")
Menggambar. To draw, sketch
Minum. To drink
Jatuh. To drop, fall
Naik. Embark, load, board
Kamu. You, your
Saya. I, me, my, mine
Kita. Us, our, you (plural)
Dia. Him, her
PRONUNCIATION GUIDE.
Bahasa Indonesia is written phonetically.
Each letter is pronounced, and each word is spelled as it is pronounced.
<insert: not completely; the letter see is pronounced as "tsj", I can probably find some more examples (not dramatically) but not today. I hope my additions were useful.Regards,
Ko
Member #4410
11-08-13, 21:11
Buddies,
<SNIP>
Tidak. No
<SNIP> Tidak (pronounced tida, remember?) does indeed mean "No", but is very direct and so is often regarded as impolite by Indonesians.
Instead many people use the word "belum", with a silent "e". This literally means "not yet" but is understood by all as meaning "no".
So if you meet an 80 year old lady and you ask her if she has children she may reply "not yet".
Regards,
Ko
Member #4410
11-09-13, 03:46
Tidak (pronounced tida, remember?) does indeed mean "No", but is very direct and so is often regarded as impolite by Indonesians.
Instead many people use the word "belum", with a silent "e". This literally means "not yet" but is understood by all as meaning "no".
So if you meet an 80 year old lady and you ask her if she has children she may reply "not yet".
Regards,
KoOn the subject of silent vowels, take a look at the attached picture. Even some Indonesians have problems with this. Picture taken in June near Harmoni.
Regards,
Ko
My preferred book to anyone who would want to learn bahasa indonesia would be the:
- Periplus editions: bahasa indonesia introduction to indonesian language and culture (by Yohanni Johns)
They have a "book one" (blue) and "book two" (orange / yellow).
I found book 1 quite easy to learn bahasa. After 10 lessons you have enough basics to find your way, negotiate and understand what they usually are talking about.
I didn't found the "rosetta stone" online CD's that helpfull. The book got me motivated till lesson 10, rosetta stone till lesson 2.
You can usually find the books at the periplus stores in the airports. They seemed to be short on "book one" last time though.
On a side note, in the MP's in mangga dua area their seem to be a lot of girls only to be able to speak javanese (or pretending)
Fellow Mongers,
I have been mongerin' all over latin america and my home the USA for some time now. Mexico, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Colombia, Ecuador (where I was born). I have contributing posts in the respective countries. My fav of all time is Medellin. Been there 4 times. Tryin to do Peru the summer 2014.
But before I go to Peru. I want to hit up a asian country. I do a lot of MP in the states like Dallas TX, California just so I can get my asian fix. Mainly Korean and Thai beauties and some Chinese.
So my questions is which asian country do I go too. My main countries I'm looking at are Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia.
I don't really have a body type that I prefer. I usually like spinners with a little curves and thick girl with Phat booties. My requirements to going to a asian country is:
Price of serivces, GFE, and convenience of going from one place to the other for service. I like to do multiple pops a day. Thats why I like go to Medellin. (go from brothel to brothel then to the centro strip club) Love it!
Where do I get more bang for my buck? Correct me if I'm wrong. Thailand seems to have a lot of MP and bars which I like, but you end up pay $80 US for for an hour so. I might as well stay in the states.
The Philippines has a lot of skinny ladies with no shape. But the appeal of the ladies knowing some english does help.
I don't know what I get with the Indonesian chicks.
I would like to do all-nighters on this trip. Which place is better for this?
Please guys help a fellow mongerer out!
Fellow Mongers,
So my questions is which asian country do I go too. My main countries I'm looking at are Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia.
*snip. My requirements to going to a asian country is:
Price of serivces, GFE, and convenience of going from one place to the other for service. I like to do multiple pops a day. Thats why I like go to Medellin. (go from brothel to brothel then to the centro strip club) Love it!
*snip*
Please guys help a fellow mongerer out!Hi Dcfan,
How long will you spend in the target country? Will you be staying in top-of-the-line hotels?
I think the key requirement you list that will NOT lead to Jakarta or Bali is "convenience of going from one place to the other for service." Jakarta (and to some extent, Bali) has a rotten and well deserved reputation for traffic jams. You might think about Sanur in Bali if you want an Indonesian experience.
Atbody types- For my taste, Indonesian women have the best bodies from among the countries you list."Pretty" and "beautiful" are good descriptions for ladies in all three countries, but "voluptuous" comes to mind only in Indonesia. ALL of the best boobs I've seen / touched are made-in-Indonesia.
Others may chime in, but if a dense selection of bars and MPs is a top priority, you are probably headed to Pataya or Bangkok (Nana or Soi Cowboy) or to Angeles City in Phils.
Hope this helps, and I eny you the choice (s) you have to make. Have fun and report back. TTG
Thanks for the intel man.
Hi Dcfan,
How long will you spend in the target country? Will you be staying in top-of-the-line hotels?
I think the key requirement you list that will NOT lead to Jakarta or Bali is "convenience of going from one place to the other for service." Jakarta (and to some extent, Bali) has a rotten and well deserved reputation for traffic jams. You might think about Sanur in Bali if you want an Indonesian experience.
Atbody types- For my taste, Indonesian women have the best bodies from among the countries you list."Pretty" and "beautiful" are good descriptions for ladies in all three countries, but "voluptuous" comes to mind only in Indonesia. ALL of the best boobs I've seen / touched are made-in-Indonesia.
Others may chime in, but if a dense selection of bars and MPs is a top priority, you are probably headed to Pataya or Bangkok (Nana or Soi Cowboy) or to Angeles City in Phils.
Hope this helps, and I eny you the choice (s) you have to make. Have fun and report back. TTG
Fellow Mongers,
I have been mongerin' all over latin america and my home the USA for some time now. Mexico, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Colombia, Ecuador (where I was born). I have contributing posts in the respective countries. My fav of all time is Medellin. Been there 4 times. Tryin to do Peru the summer 2014.
But before I go to Peru. I want to hit up a asian country. I do a lot of MP in the states like Dallas TX, California just so I can get my asian fix. Mainly Korean and Thai beauties and some Chinese.
So my questions is which asian country do I go too. My main countries I'm looking at are Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia.
I don't really have a body type that I prefer. I usually like spinners with a little curves and thick girl with Phat booties. My requirements to going to a asian country is:
Price of serivces, GFE, and convenience of going from one place to the other for service. I like to do multiple pops a day. Thats why I like go to Medellin. (go from brothel to brothel then to the centro strip club) Love it!
Where do I get more bang for my buck? Correct me if I'm wrong. Thailand seems to have a lot of MP and bars which I like, but you end up pay $80 US for for an hour so. I might as well stay in the states.
The Philippines has a lot of skinny ladies with no shape. But the appeal of the ladies knowing some english does help.
I don't know what I get with the Indonesian chicks.
I would like to do all-nighters on this trip. Which place is better for this?
Please guys help a fellow mongerer out!
Early 40s Singapore-born Canada-raised contributor here. Have also lived and worked in the US and in Vietnam. Have mongered in all the aforementioned countries, as well as in most ASEAN countries, with the exception of Myanmar, Brunei and East Timor.
Always pleased to share my 0.02 cents on such a question.
Based on the info provided in your post, I would suggest the following based firstly from a purely logistical standpoint:
Depending on how much time you have allocated for this trip (clarification also as requested by the previous post), and considering you are flying in from the US for a first time visit to Asia purely for mongering, why not do all three on your list - Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia? I would first shop around for fare deals from your city of departure in the US to any one of the three capital cities in the 3 countries on your list and use it as a 'hub' for trips to the others.
FYI Bangkok to Manila is a 3.5 hour flight (budget: Cebu Pacific, flag carriers Thai and Philippines Airlines) , Manila to Jakarta is about 4 hours (budget: Cebu Pacific, flag carriers Philippines Airlines and Garuda) , Jakarta to Bangkok is 3.5 hours (budget: Air Asia, flag carriers Garuda and Thai).
Alternatively, based again purely from a logistical standpoint, you could fly in to Singapore (United, Northwest, SQ, ANA, JAL, Korean, Asiana, etc. all have deals occasionally) and use it as your base since it is well connected to pretty much everywhere:
Singapore to Manila is a 3 hour flight (many airline choices) , Singapore to Jakarta is about 1.5 hours (many airline choices) , Singapore to Bangkok is 2.5 hours (many airline choices).
For this alternative, plan your itinerary well to spend the minimum time as possible in Singapore as it is not cheap for hotels, however there is a stopover deal offered by Singapore Airlines if you fly with them. More details on their website.
Bottom line: I think what is key is what deals you can get from your departure city in the US. For example, if you can get a good deal on Philippines Airlines for LAX MNL and don't mind flying with them, then it makes sense to start your fun in Manila then look at flight options from there to the other cities.
Ok. Now for my objective point of view. You're Ecuadorian descent and have mongered all over Latin America. You have an affinity for mujeres Colombianas.
I have a feeling you will naturally be quite pleased with Filipinas, as they are as close as we can get to a 'Latin' Asian. But thats just my opinion. Oh yeah and three-and-a-half centuries of Spanish colonization probably helped with that.
Indonesia. Since you are already on this thread, I don't suppose any hard sell on Indonesia is required. All I'll say is, for the world's most populous muslim country, be prepared to be amazed. This is a country as diverse as its 18,000+ islands and its ironies, juxtapositions and extremes (... and women!) never cease to amaze me with every trip.
Growing up in Singapore and with a strong SGD, Thailand has always been the destination for cheap and good eats, shopping, massages and sex (not necessarily in that order) for us 18-21 year old army boys with raging hormones. Not to mention everyone else around the world!
But that was in the 90s. Gone are the days of the full 100-200 strong fishbowl lineup at the soapys (Ap-ob-nuat), ONS pick-ups at the RCA clubs (freebie or 'taxi money' only very possible), invitation to after-after parties by beautiful strangers, THB 1000 ST and THB 1500-2000 LT at Soi Cowboy / Soi Nana, and most importantly, IMHO, gone is any semblance of the Thai GFE.
Of course there are, as always, exceptions. But that just my opinion. I invite you to draw your own conclusions.
TonyIndian
12-06-13, 02:29
What's a relatively safe girl friendly hotel in Batam near the red light district?
Is internet connectivity fast & reliable?
Is it possible to take day trips to Singapore on the ferry?
Member #4410
12-08-13, 18:42
What's a relatively safe girl friendly hotel in Batam near the red light district?
Is internet connectivity fast & reliable?
Is it possible to take day trips to Singapore on the ferry?Check the Batam thread.
Shoebridge
12-15-13, 19:26
OK, this is a strange question.
I'm not new to this, have traveled to mongering destinations around the world. But am planning my first trip to Indonesia, and have been chatting to some girls online.
One girl in particular is stunning, and seems to be a good girl, and claims she is a virgin (who knows, maybe this one actually is). She clearly wants a western guy to sponsor / marry her. This is not a bargirl, but a girl who I met via facebook, who seems somewhat traveled (has a passport!) , and somewhat educated.
Before I attempt to do sordid things to her, assuming she is a virgin, am I on the hook to (locally) marry / support her after? I don't want to be a total ass here, if I'm going to ruin her life by busting a nut, then I can just bang a pro instead. However, this girl seems nice, and I'd like to "know" her, but have just finished reading the thread in this forum about the guy who knocked his girl up out there, and is trying to figure out what to do.
Keen to hear what you guys think, I am not some sappy guy who's in love with anyone, I just don't quite feel the need to potentially fuck a person over just to get my rocks off. Or a I overthinking it, everyone's playing the game, and I should just play it too?
Thanks
OK, this is a strange question.
I just don't quite feel the need to potentially fuck a person over just to get my rocks off. Or a I overthinking it, everyone's playing the game, and I should just play it too?
ThanksHi Shoebridge. I think there's a high probability that you are overthinking it. You don't mention how old this lady is, but I'm guessing that she's not a virgin or, if she is, there's something not quite right. Just my humble opinion.
I scored very well via Tagged when I used to work in or transit Bali. I would be much more direct in my Tagged communications, if I were re-living that period. I recommend the same to you: ask this lady if she's willing to share your room (and your bed) and see what her response is. You aren't fucking over someone who knows what she's getting into.
If you get a strong push-back, move on. You can tell her you are sorry and all that be. S, but move on. There are millions of stunning women in Indonesia.
And let us know how this all works out! TTG
Master Diver II
12-16-13, 07:51
OK, this is a strange question.
I'm not new to this, have traveled to mongering destinations around the world. But am planning my first trip to Indonesia, and have been chatting to some girls online.
One girl in particular is stunning, and seems to be a good girl, and claims she is a virgin (who knows, maybe this one actually is). She clearly wants a western guy to sponsor / marry her. This is not a bargirl, but a girl who I met via facebook, who seems somewhat traveled (has a passport!) , and somewhat educated.
Before I attempt to do sordid things to her, assuming she is a virgin, am I on the hook to (locally) marry / support her after? I don't want to be a total ass here, if I'm going to ruin her life by busting a nut, then I can just bang a pro instead. However, this girl seems nice, and I'd like to "know" her, but have just finished reading the thread in this forum about the guy who knocked his girl up out there, and is trying to figure out what to do.
Keen to hear what you guys think, I am not some sappy guy who's in love with anyone, I just don't quite feel the need to potentially fuck a person over just to get my rocks off. Or a I overthinking it, everyone's playing the game, and I should just play it too?
ThanksI have been with two virgins who genuinely wanted to lose it. That being said, do be careful. I was very clear and explicit with both as to what they could expect from me. It would be best to be upfront about any concerns if you're both communicating openly about such things. In my case, one was 19 and the other was 25. I have come across a couple more who wanted an adventure but didn't want to lose their virginity until marriage (or at least a very serious relationship). I was clearly not into that so we ended up doing almost everything but that and still had a good time in the end. Just keep it friendly and straightforward. I didn't give them any BS or promise anything that I did not or could not stick to.
MD II
PussyFeelsGood
12-28-13, 00:50
Hi guys,
Just a few questions, I'd like to spend a month or so in Indonesia at some point but from reading the thread it sounds out of my budget.
Are girls really like $50+? What about for short time? (I am young will I be able to get cheaper, something like $30 for short time?)
Where is the cheapest city to monger?
How much would hotels there cost? Would it be possible to rent an apartment or hotel room for one month at a time? Could I get a furnished one for under $500 a month?
I've been to Pattaya, Angeles, and Cambodia and spent a month or more in each city and never spent more than $1200 while getting girls roughly every other day, would that be possible in Indonesia? I don't drink and don't pay barfines so please remember that when answering, if I can live on that much in Pattaya could I also somewhere in Indonesia?
Hi guys,
Just a few questions, I'd like to spend a month or so in Indonesia at some point but from reading the thread it sounds out of my budget.I am not an Indonesia expert, but I have just been there and have fresh impressions. In the major brothels of Hotel Classic and Hotel Travel an hour with an attractive girl ca. 19-22 years old costs 28 USD. In both places there is a very big choice, and everything is clean and orderly and regulated, but it can also be a bit sterile and oppressive. If you go for freelancers (expect) you may get away with a similar price if you are attractive, but you are likely to be paying a bit more. I found that very cheap. I am afraid I don't know the answers to you other questions.
Cucumber
PussyFeelsGood
12-28-13, 22:05
I am not an Indonesia expert, but I have just been there and have fresh impressions. In the major brothels of Hotel Classic and Hotel Travel an hour with an attractive girl ca. 19-22 years old costs 28 USD. In both places there is a very big choice, and everything is clean and orderly and regulated, but it can also be a bit sterile and oppressive. If you go for freelancers (expect) you may get away with a similar price if you are attractive, but you are likely to be paying a bit more. I found that very cheap. I am afraid I don't know the answers to you other questions.
CucumberThanks 28 USD is less than I was expecting, can you do 2 pops in the hour?
28 dollars an hour plus a 9 dollar tip. You can get off 2 shots in an hour if you tip them, but I find most times they want to put on their clothes and get out of there after the first pop.
Fast Eddie 48
12-30-13, 00:20
28 dollars an hour plus a 9 dollar tip. You can get off 2 shots in an hour if you tip them, but I find most times they want to put on their clothes and get out of there after the first pop.To Smoothy.
I have done two shots at Hotel travel and Kota indah sauna before some girl ask for tip some will do it if they like you.
Fast Eddie 48
Member #4537
12-30-13, 02:04
To Smoothy.
I have done two shots at Hotel travel and Kota indah sauna before some girl ask for tip some will do it if they like you.
Fast Eddie 48Lately I find it rare for anyone to do a second shot. Are they getting lazier or is it just me?
To Smoothy.
I have done two shots at Hotel travel and Kota indah sauna before some girl ask for tip some will do it if they like you.
Fast Eddie 48I guess none of them ever like me.
2 shots is the standard at Maribaya and other places in Jakarta, but not at Hotel Travel or Hotel Classic or Malioboro.
PussyFeelsGood
12-31-13, 01:19
Never been to Indonesia I always ask for 2 pops before closing the deal and if they say no find one that will say yes.
Fast Eddie 48
01-02-14, 21:15
I guess none of them ever like me.
2 shots is the standard at Maribaya and other places in Jakarta, but not at Hotel Travel or Hotel Classic or Malioboro.To Smoothy.
I think for Maribaya two shots is standard they also charge more than hotel travel for their below average girl 500k right, I will in town end of this month might check it out.
Fast Eddie 48
DogBoy1976
01-03-14, 16:37
To Smoothy.
I think for Maribaya two shots is standard they also charge more than hotel travel for their below average girl 500k right, I will in town end of this month might check it out.
Fast Eddie 48500k was price back in October.
I think that is the set charge for all girls.
Price now is 600k. 2 pops. 1hr or more if you need.
Inflation in Indonesia for 2014 was over 8, so I guess it makes sense.
500k was price back in October.
I think that is the set charge for all girls.
PussyFeelsGood
01-07-14, 21:56
No one has any guess on apartment costs?
Hi guys,
Just a few questions, I'd like to spend a month or so in Indonesia at some point but from reading the thread it sounds out of my budget.
*snip* How much would hotels there cost? Would it be possible to rent an apartment or hotel room for one month at a time? Could I get a furnished one for under $500 a month? *snip. Somewhere in Indonesia?Indonesia is, by population, the 4th largest country in the world. Something like 25 million people are in metro Jakarta, and few of them are paying US$500 per month. I doubt very much if you would like to stay in those accomodations, and unless you are able to use buses, you would not be able to get around. All that assumes someone would rent to you. If you are a bule, most landlords will assume you are rich and ask for outrageous rents. With a year's rent in advance, of course.
In Bali, I think you would spend more than a few days trying to find somewhere for under $500, but it's possible. (I've visited girls who lived in basic accomodations had a bedroom, a bathroom, and something that passed for a small kitchen, and that was no where near $500.)
Unless you speak Indonesian, it will be tough for you to set up anything before or immediately after arrival, and you might factor in the cost of your time. And, you may not find anything. All up to you. TTG
Fast Eddie 48
01-08-14, 21:41
Indonesia is, by population, the 4th largest country in the world. Something like 25 million people are in metro Jakarta, and few of them are paying US$500 per month. I doubt very much if you would like to stay in those accomodations, and unless you are able to use buses, you would not be able to get around. All that assumes someone would rent to you. If you are a bule, most landlords will assume you are rich and ask for outrageous rents. With a year's rent in advance, of course.
In Bali, I think you would spend more than a few days trying to find somewhere for under $500, but it's possible. (I've visited girls who lived in basic accomodations had a bedroom, a bathroom, and something that passed for a small kitchen, and that was no where near $500.)
Unless you speak Indonesian, it will be tough for you to set up anything before or immediately after arrival, and you might factor in the cost of your time. And, you may not find anything. All up to you. TTGTo Tim Tim.
There are many condo ad apartment in Jarkata this is a big city so price is not cheap at Metro Jarkata, the price can be from 1000 USD to 2200usd a month try this web site for more info.
www.apartment-jarkata.com
Fast Eddie 48
Joel Goodsen
01-11-14, 00:24
Hi guys,
Just a few questions, I'd like to spend a month or so in Indonesia at some point but from reading the thread it sounds out of my budget.
Are girls really like $50+? What about for short time? (I am young will I be able to get cheaper, something like $30 for short time?)
Where is the cheapest city to monger?
How much would hotels there cost? Would it be possible to rent an apartment or hotel room for one month at a time? Could I get a furnished one for under $500 a month?
I've been to Pattaya, Angeles, and Cambodia and spent a month or more in each city and never spent more than $1200 while getting girls roughly every other day, would that be possible in Indonesia? I don't drink and don't pay barfines so please remember that when answering, if I can live on that much in Pattaya could I also somewhere in Indonesia?Are girls really like $50+?
Yes. For freelancers. In most Jakarta freelancer bars, give or take a few dollars. For freelancers in Bali, on average, expect double the amount.
-What about for short time?
$25 to $30.
- (I am young will I be able to get cheaper, something like $30 for short time?)
Yes, that is pretty much the average price for ST. Age is irrelevant, BTW. But you may get some more attention on dating sites. However. Dating profiles may look appetizing, in real life most girls are unattractive and you may be better of with freelancers from bars.
-Where is the cheapest city to monger?
Medan.
-How much would hotels there cost? Would it be possible to rent an apartment or hotel room for one month at a time? Could I get a furnished one for under $500 a month?
For hotels, quiz the internet. The cheapest accommodation you could rent for a month would be a kost. There are some reasonable kosts that would only set you back $400 to $600. But privacy in kosts may be an issue. Apartments tend to be a little more expensive.
-I've been to Pattaya, Angeles, and Cambodia and spent a month or more in each city and never spent more than $1200 while getting girls roughly every other day, would that be possible in Indonesia?
Those are the best monger holiday destinations in Asia. No contest, really. In Indonesia you will not find an equivalent. Batam perhaps. Generally, Bali is for holidays and major cities, like Jakarta, for business.
John Aldrich
01-13-14, 08:19
Is Maribaya and other spots open tomorrow or is there a holiday on account of the Muslim festival. Any info would help.
Cheers
Hi John,
I am not sure specifically, but you'll generally find the places with 'hotel' int heir name will be open. Well thats the deal over Ramadan anyway.
So, Alexis for example should be a definite yes, I reckon your standing a fairly good chance at Hotel Melawai for it to be open.
Is Maribaya and other spots open tomorrow or is there a holiday on account of the Muslim festival. Any info would help.
Cheers
PussyFeelsGood
01-14-14, 21:38
Thanks for the responses, it sounds like living in Indonesia would be quite a bit more expensive than any of the other places I have been.
I don't have very high standards so I wonder if I could find something in the $300-$400ish a month range that would be good enough for me, I'm assuming money would go farther in Batam than in Jakarta?
Can you find hotels for $20ish a night?
Member #4537
01-15-14, 13:37
Hi PussyFeelsGood,
It'll take a lot of time to find an apartment and, if you do, the landlord will demand 12 or 24 months rent paid in advance. The good news is there are apartments in the range you described. I rented a small 1-bedroom in Medit Gajah Madah, right smack dab in the center of Kota arguably the best place in town for pussy for $400.
Oh, and you can find budget hotels in the $20 range, try Manggis Inn in Mangga Besar V. Surprisingly clean and chic for the price. And only a few minutes away from the nice places to monger.
Mighty Spearsman
01-15-14, 16:07
Thanks for the responses, it sounds like living in Indonesia would be quite a bit more expensive than any of the other places I have been.
I don't have very high standards so I wonder if I could find something in the $300-$400ish a month range that would be good enough for me, I'm assuming money would go farther in Batam than in Jakarta?
Can you find hotels for $20ish a night?There are several inexpensive "backpacker" hotels on a street known as Jalan Jaksa, in the downtown area, northeast of Plaza Sarinah and southeast of MONAS (the tall phallic monument in the center of town, known informally to Indonesians as "Sukarno's Last Erection").
Many of the girls in the hotel bars and in Blok M may be reluctant to join you there; on the other hand, there are some low-end girls working the cheap bars / restaurants on that street.
There are some very inexpensive options for mongering in Jakarta, however they are usually not recommended to newbie visitors because of safety & language reasons. Back in 2007, I wrote about my adventures in the Kali Jodo area and near the train station. Feel free to search the forum for those posts, however, if you ever go to those places, be careful!
Thanks for the responses, it sounds like living in Indonesia would be quite a bit more expensive than any of the other places I have been.
I don't have very high standards so I wonder if I could find something in the $300-$400ish a month range that would be good enough for me, I'm assuming money would go farther in Batam than in Jakarta?
Can you find hotels for $20ish a night?In Jakarta there's plenty of options for about $150 per month in boarding houses / kos especially near university kampuses. Jalan jaksa is fairly poor value for money. Easiest thing to do is to hitch up with some rich girls at the trendy disco who'll sponsor your stay for a few weeks in their family apartments. There's 25 million people in the Jakarta conurbation so you should be able to roam from apartment to apartment easily.
Batam is a small industrial town today of about 300,000 mainly factory workers. Within one month all the sweet young things will know you or know about you. It's more of a place for RnR than to stay for mongering. If I was on a tight budget, not seeking work, and expecting to monger every night I would choose either Jogyakarta or Malang to abode.
Fast Eddie 48
01-16-14, 23:05
Price now is 600k. 2 pops. 1hr or more if you need.
Inflation in Indonesia for 2014 was over 8, so I guess it makes sense.To HardHatMat.
That is way too much you can go to Terminal Classic and get two Girl for about 500k 90 min but again you might not get BBBJ, I just check exchange rate 100 USD get you 1. 28 Mil rp now best I see for a while Jarkata is still much better bargin than China, Malayasia and Thailand.
Fast Eddie 48
Anyone know the minimum age for heterosexual sex in Indonesia?
Cooze Hound
02-12-14, 06:38
Anyone know the minimum age for heterosexual sex in Indonesia?17 yrs is the legal age for girls.
Towelboy2010
02-13-14, 16:25
I have been hired to teach flying in Cilacap in Central Java for one year.
Bank of America is in Jakarta and the US. But after visiting a BOA branch here in PA, the manager told me they are actually 2 separate entities so money in BOA USA is not accessible thru BOA INDONESIA.
How do I get my money from an Indonesian bank to a USA bank?
I am used to using debit cards here in the US, How do you pay for things there without incurring all sorts of fees and charges (I. E. US debit card in Indo ATM). I also hate to carry much cash. For fear of losing it.
THANKS, BOB
17 yrs is the legal age for girls.Age of consent has to take into account also the age (gap) of the partners.
I do not think that a 25, or over, yo man bedding a 17 yo girl will be rated as legal.
Anyhow, each one his own choice, but a warning should always be given
Mighty Spearsman
02-13-14, 23:28
Anyone know the minimum age for heterosexual sex in Indonesia?I'm always cautious with this topic, as the age of consent is 17, and ISG follows an 18+ policy.
My experience is that the legit MPs in Jakarta (the ones most widely discussed here) would not have an under-age girl working there, they don't want to get busted. Luckily most Indonesian girls, especially the Javanese girls, could pass as teen-age even though they're more likely to be 21, 22 or 23 years old, so a monger who wants to fulfill the fantasy of being with a young-looking girl can do so without breaking either Indonesia's or ISG's rules.
Whenever I've run across a "young" girl, I've always described her as "barely-legal" in a post just to be safe. They may have just turned 18 the day before, but they may have also been 22 years old.
The low-end street scene and super-low-end MPs such as the ones in Kali Jodo may be a different story, but I always recommend that anyone who is not an experienced Jakarta hand to stay away from those places.
Mighty Spearsman
02-13-14, 23:35
Age of consent has to take into account also the age (gap) of the partners.
I do not think that a 25, or over, yo man bedding a 17 yo girl will be rated as legal.
Anyhow, each one his own choice, but a warning should always be given
Not sure I agree with you. I regularly saw Indonesian male customers at Kartika, Berlian, Royal mas, Maribaya, Sumo Shiatsu, etc. who were clearly in their late 60s/early 70s.
Back in late 2007-early 2008 a monger who was in his late 50s (me) regularly had great sex with a certifiably 18-year-girl at Royal Mas MP (same alley as Kartika and Berlian). Those sessions ended only because she was married off by her parents in an arranged marriage the week of her 19th birthday.
A humorous side note. Towards the end of one of those great sessions, when we were both lying there recovering, her phone rang. She apologized, saying I have to take this call, then spent a couple of minutes talking with her father who was back home in the village. After the call ended, I asked her if her father knew what she was up to, and she said "no, he thinks I work at a stall in Lokasari Plaza Mall."
Mighty Spearsman
02-13-14, 23:46
I have been hired to teach flying in Cilacap in Central Java for one year.
Bank of America is in Jakarta and the US. But after visiting a BOA branch here in PA, the manager told me they are actually 2 separate entities so money in BOA USA is not accessible thru BOA INDONESIA.
How do I get my money from an Indonesian bank to a USA bank?
I am used to using debit cards here in the US, How do you pay for things there without incurring all sorts of fees and charges (I. E. US debit card in Indo ATM). I also hate to carry much cash. For fear of losing it.
THANKS, BOBI regularly used my US Debit card throughout my stay in Indonesia (2004-09) and never had any problems, nor was I ever charged any excessive fees.
Biggest problem with ATMs is that most of them disburse only 50, 000 rupiah notes with a max of 1, 500, 000 so I always ended up having to do two withdrawals and carrying around a big wad of money in my pocket. Eventually I found an ATM at Bank Danamon in Kuningan (across from Mal Ambassador / ITC Kuningan) that dispensed 100, 000 rupiah notes, but even there the limit was 2, 000, 000 rupiah at a time.
Regarding banks, Indonesia is a legitimate member of the world financial community, so you shouldn't have any problems moving money back and forth between Indonesian and US bank accounts. Most of the major US banks have branches in Jakarta.
I would also recommend that if possible, that you use your debit card only for ATMs and use a separate credit card for shopping in the malls, etc. I had two credit cards' numbers stolen from me during my stay (identity theft!) and it was a hassle having to resolve both times.
I have been hired to teach flying in Cilacap in Central Java for one year.
Bank of America is in Jakarta and the US. But after visiting a BOA branch here in PA, the manager told me they are actually 2 separate entities so money in BOA USA is not accessible thru BOA INDONESIA.
How do I get my money from an Indonesian bank to a USA bank?
I am used to using debit cards here in the US, How do you pay for things there without incurring all sorts of fees and charges (I. E. US debit card in Indo ATM). I also hate to carry much cash. For fear of losing it.
THANKS, BOBI don't know if there are any problems with specifically US credit / debit cards but I have been using UK-issued cards without any problem for 10 years here, the only qualifications being those mentioned by MS; the limited amount of cash issued (I recommend HSBC ATMs which allow withdrawals up to 4 million) and the transaction fees charged by the overseas bank.
However if you are going to be working in the country for a year the obvious solution is to open a bank account here with one of the big banks, probably BCA would be best. The range of banking services that can be done online or by ATM (paying utilities, credit cards, making transfers etc) is very wide and certainly far advanced compared to my experience back home.
Member #4410
02-16-14, 02:11
I regularly used my US Debit card throughout my stay in Indonesia (2004-09) and never had any problems, nor was I ever charged any excessive fees.
Biggest problem with ATMs is that most of them disburse only 50, 000 rupiah notes with a max of 1, 500, 000 so I always ended up having to do two withdrawals and carrying around a big wad of money in my pocket. Eventually I found an ATM at Bank Danamon in Kuningan (across from Mal Ambassador / ITC Kuningan) that dispensed 100, 000 rupiah notes, but even there the limit was 2, 000, 000 rupiah at a time.
Regarding banks, Indonesia is a legitimate member of the world financial community, so you shouldn't have any problems moving money back and forth between Indonesian and US bank accounts. Most of the major US banks have branches in Jakarta.
I would also recommend that if possible, that you use your debit card only for ATMs and use a separate credit card for shopping in the malls, etc. I had two credit cards' numbers stolen from me during my stay (identity theft!) and it was a hassle having to resolve both times.There is apparently a lot of difference between banks around the world in their treatment of ATMs in other countries.
When I'm in Indonesia I use my credit cards only for hotel payments and the occasional airline tickets for local flights, if I have not paid for them beforehand on internet.
When I need cash from ATMs I can use my normal bank-card (in my case the Dutch ING "pin-pas") that I use in the Netherlands for paying in shops and cash withdrawals. Due to the fact that my credit card (Mastercard) is also issued by ING I am not charged for these withdrawals. Bank charges are not huge amounts of money, but not having to pay them is still nice.
As for the problem of the small bills, in most clusters of ATMs there are usually 1 or 2 that discharge IDR 100, 000 bills; I found them in the ATM malls in Pasaraya, Plaza Indonesia and Grand Indonesia. The withdrawal limits still slightly baffle me, since they vary between banks. As I recall BCA and Danamon allow IDR 2, 000, 000 withdrawals.
Regards,
Ko
Joel Goodsen
02-16-14, 07:50
When I need cash from ATMs I can use my normal bank-card (in my case the Dutch ING "pin-pas") that I use in the Netherlands for paying in shops and cash withdrawals. Due to the fact that my credit card (Mastercard) is also issued by ING I am not charged for these withdrawals. Bank charges are not huge amounts of money, but not having to pay them is still nice.That is an exception, Ko. Most mongers are probably not as lucky to have a bank account with ING. Dutch banks have always been cheap to use, compared to other international banks.
For example, Australian banks would typically cut around 90k IDR, on a 1, 5 million IDR Indonesian ATM withdrawal.
To counter this, there some Australian ATM's you can use (airport as well as in Kemang) and withdrawal fee would only be 2 AUD per transaction, but using foreign cards to make withdrawals on Indonesian ATM's is generally expensive.
Member #4410
02-16-14, 22:34
That is an exception, Ko. Most mongers are probably not as lucky to have a bank account with ING. Dutch banks have always been cheap to use, compared to other international banks.
For example, Australian banks would typically cut around 90k IDR, on a 1, 5 million IDR Indonesian ATM withdrawal.
To counter this, there some Australian ATM's you can use (airport as well as in Kemang) and withdrawal fee would only be 2 AUD per transaction, but using foreign cards to make withdrawals on Indonesian ATM's is generally expensive.Well, lucky old Dutchmen. The amounts you mention are plain robbery. Reminds me of the long-passed days when you had to pay when you used an ATM on Sunday. As if there was a little guy inside that was being paid overtime.
Regards,
Ko
Joel Goodsen
02-17-14, 09:02
Well, lucky old Dutchmen. The amounts you mention are plain robbery. Reminds me of the long-passed days when you had to pay when you used an ATM on Sunday. As if there was a little guy inside that was being paid overtime.
Regards,
KoHaha. Likely not a Dutch banker sitting in that ATM on Sunday. He would do it for free. And yes, plain robbery.
You know, if you transfer US dollars from Australia to Indonesia, this goes via intermediary banks. Like the bank of New York. On top of the Australian bank charge, they charge their own additional fee of 25 USD per transfer. And all they have to do, is click a button. Isn't that fantastic?
You know, what they do with all that money. Some scholars say that one variables in the GFC was the heavy use of cocaine amongst bankers. It made them over-confident, so they claim.
Member #4410
02-17-14, 20:58
Haha. Likely not a Dutch banker sitting in that ATM on Sunday. He would do it for free. And yes, plain robbery.
You know, if you transfer US dollars from Australia to Indonesia, this goes via intermediary banks. Like the bank of New York. On top of the Australian bank charge, they charge their own additional fee of 25 USD per transfer. And all they have to do, is click a button. Isn't that fantastic?
You know, what they do with all that money. Some scholars say that one variables in the GFC was the heavy use of cocaine amongst bankers. It made them over-confident, so they claim.
Yes. And seeing how easy the bankers got away after creating the latest mess it's unlikely the coke usage will decrease.
The reason the Dutch banks stopped charging for Sunday ATM use was that one bank refused to cooperate. It was the good old Postbank (predecessor of ING). When they refused to budge, despite pressure from the other banks, the others had to mend their ways because it cost them hoge amounts of clients.
Regards,
Ko
Master Diver II
02-18-14, 12:08
Well I'd recommend anyone who comes from Malaysia to use CIMB as you have access to ATMs through CIMB Niaga in Indonesia. The exchange rate for withdrawals is the median rate so you won't lose compared with going to a moneychanger (better rate in fact) and they don't charge you more than a nominal sum for the privilege. In fact they also have ATMs in KLIA LCCT which dispense rupiah so you can get your currency at the airport without being ripped off (that's got to be unusual).
MD II
I joined Indonesian cupid a couple of weeks ago. When I put 1960 as year of my birth, I received a message everyday. But when I put 1950 as year of my birth, which is more true, I haven't received a single message.
Does this mean that Indonesian women are not eager to meet 60+ men?
Master Diver II
02-26-14, 10:19
I joined Indonesian cupid a couple of weeks ago. When I put 1960 as year of my birth, I received a message everyday. But when I put 1950 as year of my birth, which is more true, I haven't received a single message.
Does this mean that Indonesian women are not eager to meet 60+ men?Hahahaha bro, you know that's not true. There are quite a few who have a very broad age range that they seek. Sometimes you should send them a message first. I find quite a number who put in a range of 20-29/30 that are still willing to meet me even though I'm listed as 45/46. Did you join because you're coming over again soon?
MD II
Hahahaha bro, you know that's not true. There are quite a few who have a very broad age range that they seek. Sometimes you should send them a message first. I find quite a number who put in a range of 20-29/30 that are still willing to meet me even though I'm listed as 45/46. Did you join because you're coming over again soon?
MD IINot very soon, but I will be there at the end of the year for three months. Actually I joined IC out of curiosity and I would like to follow your footsteps. But, as I'm no competition to you, I aim at women in the 45 and older group. There also might be less professionals in that group.
Master Diver II
03-01-14, 02:54
Not very soon, but I will be there at the end of the year for three months. Actually I joined IC out of curiosity and I would like to follow your footsteps. But, as I'm no competition to you, I aim at women in the 45 and older group. There also might be less professionals in that group.More than enough to go around bro. Look forward to meeting up again. Take care bro. Plenty of women even younger than that who are open to meet up with men up to 70.
MD II
DiscoRicky
03-10-14, 14:35
First post, so probably in the wrong place.
I have a 12 hour layover in Jakarta and have a plan, need help with execution. Ideally would like to find a nice little hotel / resort not too far from airport, country setting. Check in for the day, hang out by the pool and find a GFE to enjoy before heading home. Usual stuff BBBJ anal and CIM, Ideas and suggestions are welcome.
DR
First post, so probably in the wrong place.
I have a 12 hour layover in Jakarta and have a plan, need help with execution. Ideally would like to find a nice little hotel / resort not too far from airport, country setting. Check in for the day, hang out by the pool and find a GFE to enjoy before heading home. Usual stuff BBBJ anal and CIM, Ideas and suggestions are welcome.
DRRicky,
Your ideal doesn't exist in Jakarta. Read the forum posts, please! You are looking at a couple of hours each direction from airport to anywhere (maybe one hour if you're lucky). The nice little hotel I would recommend is Alexis, but it's pricey. Don't know about Alexis? RTFF. TTG
FreebieFan
03-11-14, 04:44
I joined Indonesian cupid a couple of weeks ago. When I put 1960 as year of my birth, I received a message everyday. But when I put 1950 as year of my birth, which is more true, I haven't received a single message.
Does this mean that Indonesian women are not eager to meet 60+ men?A few months ago I went from late 50s to late 40's. The amount of traffic on the sites I use in Asia didn't materially increase. I've had to obviously change my Chinese sign too. Suddenly I'm a horse. LOL. Interestingly I invited one lady to join me on a trip recently and to book her ticket with mine I needed her passport. I noticed that she's 7 years older than she told me she was. I guess we all do the same thing for as long as we can get away with it.
DiscoRicky
03-11-14, 08:08
Ricky,
Your ideal doesn't exist in Jakarta. Read the forum posts, please! You are looking at a couple of hours each direction from airport to anywhere (maybe one hour if you're lucky). The nice little hotel I would recommend is Alexis, but it's pricey. Don't know about Alexis? RTFF. TTGI'll keep looking, ever hopeful.
Thanks TimTimGuy for the rec,
DR
Mighty Spearsman
03-11-14, 14:19
First post, so probably in the wrong place.
I have a 12 hour layover in Jakarta and have a plan, need help with execution. Ideally would like to find a nice little hotel / resort not too far from airport, country setting. Check in for the day, hang out by the pool and find a GFE to enjoy before heading home. Usual stuff BBBJ anal and CIM, Ideas and suggestions are welcome.
DRTim Tim Guy is correct, your ideal doesn't exist in Jakarta.
For regular travelers who have a long lay-over, there's a decent Sheraton hotel that's 5 minutes away from the airport, has a nice pool, good restaurants. Can't guarantee you'll find a GFE girl there. The in-house massage service is a possibility but the masseuse would probably demand a big tip for FS and CIM. Anal would be even tougher.
If you were a Senior Member of ISG with lots of useful posts, either me or someone else would probably feed you a phone number to call to get a young lovely to come out to the Sheraton for the day to spend time with you at the pool and in bed, etc. The problem is that you've only written one post and no one knows who you are.
Since the Alexis Hotel is in the northern part of Jakarta, you can probably get there in 30-45 minutes if it's not rush hour. Other option is to contact Jakarta After Dark (JAD). His contact info is located as one of the oldest posts in the Classified section of this board.
Now, since you've already received useful info from more than one poster, I look forward to you reciprocating by posting a detailed report of your exploits here.
P.S. There is a small hotel/brothel located northeast of the airport, maybe a 10-minute taxi ride, it was discussed here several years ago, can't remember any details. RTFF!
Master Diver II
03-12-14, 09:42
A few months ago I went from late 50s to late 40's. The amount of traffic on the sites I use in Asia didn't materially increase. I've had to obviously change my Chinese sign too. Suddenly I'm a horse. LOL. Interestingly I invited one lady to join me on a trip recently and to book her ticket with mine I needed her passport. I noticed that she's 7 years older than she told me she was. I guess we all do the same thing for as long as we can get away with it.You're absolutely right FF. I personally remove about 4-5 years from my age and I've come across some ladies doing just the same. As long as everyone is happy with each other, it doesn't become an issue at all.
MD II
You're absolutely right FF. I personally remove about 4-5 years from my age and I've come across some ladies doing just the same. As long as everyone is happy with each other, it doesn't become an issue at all.
MD IIBro, even if you ad more than 10 years to your age, the girls will still swarm around you!
BTW, still no personal reaction received, except for the recommended matches.
Guys,
01. I totally agree with you, Menteng Buddy.
02. At my current age of 62, I am NOT facing any problem whatsoever getting "cewe" in Jakarta, more so when I am in Balikpapan, Surabaya or other cities in Indonesia.
03. Ofcourse, one most always remember the very famous sentence of Richard Gere,"I pay woman NOT for the sex, but for leaving my hotel room".
04. Just remember, always, that "You can take the girl out of the bar, but you can not take the bar-mentality out of the girl".
05. Enjoy Indonesia, Land of Paradise, whilst you can.
Ciao,
Pete33.
Bro, even if you ad more than 10 years to your age, the girls will still swarm around you!
BTW, still no personal reaction received, except for the recommended matches.
Master Diver II
03-14-14, 05:49
Bro, even if you ad more than 10 years to your age, the girls will still swarm around you!
BTW, still no personal reaction received, except for the recommended matches.I wish that was the case bro. Perhaps it's how you structure your profile. Some of them don't want to feel that that's the only thing. That's why I say I'm open to anything - even becoming a curhat (JAD's idea). They like the idea that someone listens to them.
Guys,
03. Of course, one most always remember the very famous sentence of Richard Gere,"I pay woman NOT for the sex, but for leaving my hotel room".
Pete33.
Wasn't that Charlie Sheen?
MD II
Guys,
01. I totally agree with you, Menteng Buddy.
02. At my current age of 62, I am NOT facing any problem whatsoever getting "cewe" in Jakarta, more so when I am in Balikpapan, Surabaya or other cities in Indonesia.
03. Ofcourse, one most always remember the very famous sentence of Richard Gere,"I pay woman NOT for the sex, but for leaving my hotel room".
04. Just remember, always, that "You can take the girl out of the bar, but you can not take the bar-mentality out of the girl".
05. Enjoy Indonesia, Land of Paradise, whilst you can.
Ciao,
Pete33.thanks Pete, for the encouraging words. Thing is, in real life I never have a problem. Hmm, I suppose in IC they don't know how charming I am.
I wish that was the case bro. Perhaps it's how you structure your profile. Some of them don't want to feel that that's the only thing. That's why I say I'm open to anything. Even becoming a curhat (JAD's idea). They like the idea that someone listens to them.
MD III'll adjust my profile bro. Thanks for the tip. They might be attracted now because where else do one turns to to curhat than to a lansia? (wink)
Hi,
I am travelling next month to Jakarta for 10 days. Is Hotel Santika Taman Mini girl friendly. Also can anyone suggest where can I find girls around that hotel.
Cheers
Greeting everyone,
I'm planning on travelling to Indonesia. Probably starting with 1 week Jakarta then 2 weeks Bali. Well any kind of suggestions / ideas would be really appreciated since this is my first time to this country. Would like to know what are the best areas to stay for nightlife since I'm into discos mostly along with other girly activities. Would be nice to know which are the best discos at the moment with a good crowded atmosphere. I like to find nightlife areas for my hotel and obviously the hotel should be girl friendly. So that's about it and thanks in advance for any replies, much appreciated!
Mstdion
Mighty Spearsman
04-06-14, 16:39
Greeting everyone,
I'm planning on travelling to Indonesia. Probably starting with 1 week Jakarta then 2 weeks Bali. Well any kind of suggestions / ideas would be really appreciated since this is my first time to this country. Would like to know what are the best areas to stay for nightlife since I'm into discos mostly along with other girly activities. Would be nice to know which are the best discos at the moment with a good crowded atmosphere. I like to find nightlife areas for my hotel and obviously the hotel should be girl friendly. So that's about it and thanks in advance for any replies, much appreciated!
MstdionOnly one post. Who are you? Assuming you've mongered before, why have you never posted about your experiences?
RTFF! You don't need to read very far to discover that the Hotel Mulia (CJs) and Hotel Shanfrei-La (BATS) have busy night clubs inside of them, or that the Ambhara Hotel is located near the Blok M clubs on Jalan Fatahillah. A well-known disco / club in Bali is the Sky Garden in Kuta (and there are many others).
Now start reading!
Its my only post till now cause just joined today. My first visit planning for Jakarta & Bali hopefully.
Thanks for the reply.
I'm new here just joined in. I've been to Thailand several times but never to Indonesia. Just wanted to have a quick info reply and thanks for the reply I appreciate honestly. I'm sure I`ll come on this website frequently since very much interested in mongering travel around the world.
Only one post. Who are you? Assuming you've mongered before, why have you never posted about your experiences?
RTFF! You don't need to read very far to discover that the Hotel Mulia (CJs) and Hotel Shanfrei-La (BATS) have busy night clubs inside of them, or that the Ambhara Hotel is located near the Blok M clubs on Jalan Fatahillah. A well-known disco / club in Bali is the Sky Garden in Kuta (and there are many others).
Now start reading!
Mighty Spearsman
04-07-14, 14:17
I just joined today. Yes I've mongered before but Only in Thailand
Its my only post till now cause just joined today. My first visit planning for Jakarta & Bali hopefully. Thanks for the reply.I'm pleasantly surprised to read your response. Good luck with your upcoming trip, look forward to reading some detailed posts of your experiences.
A friendly comment for you and all newbies. New members will get more respect and more feedback if they post at least one informative report instead of just asking questions (assuming that they've mongered before and are not virgins).
In your case, a report or two about your mongering experiences in Thailand would add a lot of credibility. For example, have you ever been to the Kangaroo Bar in Patpong? I went twice during the same evening (8 pm and again just before closing), around 15 years ago, and still have fun memories. Same girl both times, then I ended up treating her to a snack at the nearby McDonalds after the Patpong bars had closed down. She wanted to come back to my hotel with me, but at that point I was drained for the night and said no.
Matthew4004
04-10-14, 17:45
Hi guys,
From what I've read Jakarta seems to be more expensive for girls than Bali, would you agree?
What about other big cities in Indonesia, how do they compare, what would the average price be for ST and LT?
Offshore Swell
04-11-14, 17:30
Hi guys,
From what I've read Jakarta seems to be more expensive for girls than Bali, would you agree?
What about other big cities in Indonesia, how do they compare, what would the average price be for ST and LT?Hi Matthew 4004.
Indonesia is now making a push to standardise prices, the Sharia police have recently been tasked with enforcing this.
This means big savings for you, the punter. In the bad old days, when you were salivating over the apple of your eye in the fishbowl and papasan invented a number. You had to negotiate. Fortunately now. These things are standardised. Presidential decree number 46097/225 last week stated that bules, local's, Chinese, korean's and germans must now pay the gazetted PSK (sex worker) price of 450 000 per pop. Regardless of location in Indonesia. According to the Economists at the Sharia ministry, this should introduce 900 billion rupiah of new money to the economy next year.
So in answer to your perceptive question. You now do not need to worry about minor details like price. It is standardised across the country. Even in the high end clubs like CJ's where you can buy quality English speaking aromatic pussy for the same price as a piece of rather beaten up pussy in Kalijodo. The Sharia ministry have advised police posts nationwide of this policy. So If papasan or mamasan or that winsome looking girl in CJ's are quoting you some astronomical bule price. You just look for the nearest police post and they will be able to assist you with this. Just look for the green PSK priceaware sticker on the window that the ministry has printed up. It looks a little bit like a penis with a question mark around it.
The detractors of this project are saying in the media that it is socialising pussy. I will leave you to make up your own mind on this for you are obviously an intelligent fellow
Anyway. Thanks for your valuable input, the sharia ministry monitor these pages and questions like yours are particularly helpful for them to guage public response. Please post more. I personally really appreciate these brave fighters for transparency at the Sharia ministry. That they would take a concept as old as mankind itself IE "I have a part of me that I want to put in a part of you and I am not thinking clearly just now because I want you so badly" and then strip all of the variables out of the market to standardise the price. Which for you now and inthe foreseeable future will be 450 000 RP. A great step forward.
Hope that helps.
Regards.
OS
Member #4410
04-11-14, 19:32
Hi Matthew 4004.
Indonesia is now making a push to standardise prices, the Sharia police have recently been tasked with enforcing this.
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Hope that helps.
Regards.
OSO. S,
You, Sir, have a very mean streak inside you.
Best regards,
Ko
Master Diver II
04-16-14, 11:58
Hi Matthew 4004.
Indonesia is now making a push to standardise prices, the Sharia police have recently been tasked with enforcing this.
Presidential decree number 46097/225 last week stated that bules, local's, Chinese, korean's and germans must now pay the gazetted PSK (sex worker) price of 450 000 per pop. Regardless of location in Indonesia. According to the Economists at the Sharia ministry, this should introduce 900 billion rupiah of new money to the economy next year.
So If papasan or mamasan or that winsome looking girl in CJ's are quoting you some astronomical bule price. You just look for the nearest police post and they will be able to assist you with this. Just look for the green PSK priceaware sticker on the window that the ministry has printed up. It looks a little bit like a penis with a question mark around it.
Hope that helps.
OSOS,
Unfortunately the economists just did another study and found that the injection of new money into the country will leave just as quickly as the girls buy new mobile phones and other assorted electronic devices. They are now suggesting that the amount be paid by purchasing local Indonesian goods as oleh oleh plus a balance as real taxi money. Oleh oleh in the form of imported goods will be deemed an incomplete and illegal transaction, even if accepted by the girls.
Look for the nearest police post? Man you're evil. LOLOLOLOLOLOL followed by ROTFLMFAO.
MD II
Internationalsexguide buddies,
01. Please find hereunder a detailed very excellent of the various Immigration, Visa $ Work Permits, available at the following URL http://livinginindonesia.info/item/immigration-visas-work-permits.
02. To all of you buddies, who has never been to Indonesia, please do come and enjoy one of the best "hospitality" available all over the +- 17, 000 islands of Indonesia.
Ciao,
Pete33.
Immigration, Visas & Work Permits.
Among the most frustrating issues for foreigners of living in Indonesia are the obtaining and maintaining of visas and work permits.
The amount of red tape and bureaucracy in involved in obtaining certain of these visas can be quite extraordinary.
These are the most common types of visas currently available in Indonesia:
&9702; Visa-On-Arrival (VOA)
&9702; Tourist Visa
&9702; Single Entry Social Visa (Sosbud)
&9702; Single Entry Business Visa (Business)
&9702; Multiple Entry Social Visa (MESV)
&9702; Multiple Entry Business Visa (MEBV)
&9702; Temporary Residence Visa (KITAS)
&9702; Retirement Visas.
&9702; Permanent Residence Visa (KITAP)
Other specialised visas for diplomatic staff, NGOs, journalists and artists are also available.
All of these visas have their own special requirements, however common to all of them is the requirement that passports have at least six month's validity past the expiry of the issued visa. Thus, a 12-month Temporary Residence Visa would require a validity of at least 18 months at the time of application.
Laws, regulations, procedures and requirements for Indonesian visas and work permits change constantly. (You may wish to re-read that last sentence.) For qualified and up-to-date advice, consult a trusted and qualified agent that specializes in such matters.
Visa-On-Arrival (VOA)
As their name implies, Visa-On-Arrival (VOA) are issued directly upon arrival into Indonesia. They are mainly used by tourists.
VOA can only be issued to citizens of the following countries:
Algeria, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Bahrain, Belgium, Brazil, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Canada, China, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Egypt, Estonia, Fiji, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, India, Iran, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Kuwait, Laos, Lativa, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Maldives, Malta, Mexico, Monaco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Oman, Panama, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, South Korea, Spain, Suriname, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United States.
The VOA costs US$25 for a 30-day visa, and US$10 for a 7-day visa, which must be paid in cash.
Having paid the fee for the visa, visitors can then proceed to a special immigration counter where passports will be stamped with the VOA. You may sometimes be asked to produce an onward or return trip ticket.
It must always be remembered that a VOA cannot be extended under any circumstances. Before it expires, you must leave the country. Many people wanting to extend their visit to Indonesia simply get a cheap flight to Singapore and return to Indonesia often on the same day. There is no problem with Indonesian immigration authorities with you doing this, as long as they do not suspect that you are illegally working here.
VOAs are only issued through these international gateways:
By Air: Bali, Balikpapan, Jakarta, Kupang, Lombok, Medan, Makasar, Manado, Mataram, Padang, Pekanbaru, Solo, Sulawesi, Surabaya and Yogyakarta.
By Sea: Batam, Bintan (Tanjung Uban) , Medan (Belawan) , Sumatra (Sibolga) , Dumai, Padang (Teluk Bayar) , Bali (Padang Bai) , Jayapura, Bitung, Semarang (Tanjung Mas) , Kupang (Tenau) , Pare Pare, Tanjung Pinang (Bintang Pura) and Makassar.
Tourist Visa.
Embassy-issued Tourist visas are valid for 60 days, and are not extendable.
Citizens of countries that are not on the VOA or Visa Free lists are required to apply for a tourist visa at an Indonesian Embassy / Consulate before entry to Indonesia.
Also, tourists from any country wanting to stay in Indonesia for longer than allowed by the VOA may also wish to consider this type of visa.
Single Entry Social Visa (Sosbud)
The Social Visa, or what was formally known in Indonesia as a sosial-budaya (social-cultural) visa, or sosbud, is issued for the purposes of:
&9702; Visiting family members / relatives in Indonesia.
&9702; Visiting social organization in the same field of endeavor.
&9702; Exchange visits for education and training in Indonesia.
&9702; To give a lecture or join a non-commercial seminar / conference in social, cultural or governmental fields, with permission of a related agency / institution / department.
This visa is issued by an Indonesian embassy / consulate upon production of a letter from a sponsor from within Indonesia, and is for an initial period of 60 days upon entry. Unlike VOA or tourist visas, sosbud visas can be extended within the country. Four 30-day extensions can be obtained, giving a total possible stay of six months.
Single Entry Business Visa (Business)
Business visas are issued for the following purposes:
&9702; To discuss matters within the framework of trade transactions.
&9702; To make on the spot observations and to discuss trade terms for import-export business.
&9702; Any business activity where person is not engaged as an employee.
&9702; To attend international shows / exhibitions.
&9702; To attend meetings held by a head office or representative in Indonesia.
&9702; To discuss with Indonesian enterprises matters related to capital or commodity production by overseas enterprise.
&9702; To investigate commercial possibilities within the framework of capital investment with prospective partners in Indonesia.
&9702; To make a journalistic visit with the permission of a related agency / institution / department.
&9702; To make a film for non-commercial purposes with the permission of a related institution.
This visa is issued by an Indonesian embassy / consulate upon production of a letter from a sponsor from an Indonesian company, and is for an initial period of 60 days upon entry. Unlike VOA or tourist visas, sosbud visas can be extended within the country. Four 30-day extensions can be obtained, giving a total possible stay of six months.
Multiple Entry Social Visa (MESV)
Although Multiple Entry Social Visas are a theoretical possibility under current regulations, in the past year the immigration has made obtaining such visas difficult or impossible.
Normally, they are valid for 12 months from the date of issuance at the embassy, and are for visits of a maximum 60 days duration.
Visas such as these must be processed by the Immigration Office in Jakarta. Once processed. Usually taking three to five working days. A "telex" of the visa approval letter is sent to the Indonesian embassy where you wish to pick up the visa. You then take a copy of the telex, your passport and passport photos to the Indonesian embassy on the approval letter, where the pre-approved visa will be stamped into the passport. This process can take up to three working days, and from the Embassy varies from US$100 to US$150.
Multiple Entry Business Visa (MEBV)
Multiple Entry Business Visa (MEBV) are commonly used by people backwards and forwards doing business in Indonesia. It is strongly stressed that the MEBV does not entitle you to work in Indonesia. The term "work" is defined very broadly by immigration officials, thus great care should be taken when describing your activities while here. The word "work" should be temporarily expunged from your vocabulary.
MEBV are valid for 12 months from the date of issuance at the embassy, and are for visits of maximum 60 days duration.
Visas such as these must be processed by the Immigration Office in Jakarta. Once processed. Usually taking three to five working days. A "telex" of the visa approval letter is sent to the Indonesian embassy where you wish to pick up the visa. You then take a copy of the telex, your passport and passport photos to the Indonesian embassy on the approval letter, where the pre-approved visa will be stamped into the passport. This process can take up to three working days, and from the Embassy varies from US$100 to US$150.
Thanks to the people at Okusi for assistance with this section.
Most excellent summary Pete, thanks for offering the info. One final comment on the VOA.
Garuda now offers VOA as an in-plane service on its popular international routes. I think SYD-DPS, SYD-CGK, Tokyo-CGK etc.
All this does is saves you the line-up time at the airport, so saves an hour sometimes, an hour that could be better used for other purposes of course.
Before I got my Kitas I flew Garuda purely for this purpose (well plus the hostesses are much better than Qantas old ugly women).
This might help short-stay tourist mongers, makes immigration a breeze when you arrive.
Cheers HHM.
Visa-On-Arrival (VOA)
As their name implies, Visa-On-Arrival (VOA) are issued directly upon arrival into Indonesia. They are mainly used by tourists.
VOA can only be issued to citizens of the following countries:
Algeria, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Bahrain, Belgium, Brazil, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Canada, China, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Egypt, Estonia, Fiji, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, India, Iran, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Kuwait, Laos, Lativa, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Maldives, Malta, Mexico, Monaco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Oman, Panama, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, South Korea, Spain, Suriname, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United States...
Cooze Hound
05-05-14, 10:43
Internationalsexguide buddies,
It must always be remembered that a VOA cannot be extended under any circumstances. Before it expires, you must leave the country. Many people wanting to extend their visit to Indonesia simply get a cheap flight to Singapore and return to Indonesia often on the same day. There is no problem with Indonesian immigration authorities with you doing this, as long as they do not suspect that you are illegally working here.Thanks for posting this for the guys. However VOA's are easily and legally extendable, for another 30 days. A couple of things to take care of. Start the process about 10 days before it expires. Cost is 25 USD.
It involves 2-3 trips to the immigration office so easier to pay a bit more and use an agent thus more time for mongering.
In Bali you can often extend illegally for another month depending on your agent but cost rises.
Also another possible trap, if you are doing the one day turn around you should hold an onward ticket back out because the immigration can and will turn you back on those grounds if they are suspicious that you are working.
Good luck all.
Member #4537
05-05-14, 10:58
the immigration can and will turn you back on those grounds if they are suspicious that you are working.
Good luck all.I've been turned away myself after doing the visa run thing 5 months in a row with the normal Visa-on-Arrival + 30-day extension. It's worth noting though that I am still in my early 20s and they may have a bigger reason to suspect I am working than a 50 year old.
Some guys go from one country to another to evade this issue. But I like to keep my base in one country only.
Fortunately I did find an agent in Jakarta who got me a bogus KITAS with 12 months validity renewable once every year and I've not had any trouble with the immigration guys since then. It's not cheap though but it gives me peace of mind I won't be refused entry.
Immigration Increases Visa-On-Arrival, Passport Fees.
Jakarta Globe 2nd July.
Jakarta. The Indonesian immigration office on Wednesday announced an increase in fees for some of its services, including visa-on-arrival application fees for foreign nationals and new passports for Indonesians.
"The price for immigration charged on the public will change starting July 3, 2014, in line with the issuance of the 2014 government regulation. On the types of non-tax revenues and the tariffs imposed on them as regulated by the Ministry of Justice and Human Rights," the immigration office said in a statement signed by its spokesman Heriyanto.
The price for a seven-day visa-on-arrival has been set to $15 from the initial $10, while the price for a 30-day visa-on-arrival will be increased to $35 from the initial $25.
Fast Eddie 48
07-07-14, 22:49
Immigration Increases Visa-On-Arrival, Passport Fees.
Jakarta Globe 2nd July.
Jakarta. The Indonesian immigration office on Wednesday announced an increase in fees for some of its services, including visa-on-arrival application fees for foreign nationals and new passports for Indonesians.
"The price for immigration charged on the public will change starting July 3, 2014, in line with the issuance of the 2014 government regulation. On the types of non-tax revenues and the tariffs imposed on them as regulated by the Ministry of Justice and Human Rights," the immigration office said in a statement signed by its spokesman Heriyanto.
The price for a seven-day visa-on-arrival has been set to $15 from the initial $10, while the price for a 30-day visa-on-arrival will be increased to $35 from the initial $25.To USpete.
Are you sure the 15 days visa is still being offer I have a US passport and I been to Jarkata twice the last 10 month the 15 days visa is not offer anymore only 30 days is avalible at the airport.
Fast eddie 48.
Immigration Increases Visa-On-Arrival, Passport Fees.
Jakarta Globe 2nd July. *snip* The price for a seven-day visa-on-arrival has been set to $15 from the initial $10, while the price for a 30-day visa-on-arrival will be increased to $35 from the initial $25.I'm not sure where the Globe got that info, but the only visa-on-arrival option is 30 days for US $35. I just sent a consultant through the process. The seven-day option may exist but the enterprising Immigration officials may just be ignoring it. Why sell something for $15 when you can collect $35? TTG.
The $15,- 7 day visa is still available but only in Special Economic Zones like Batam, Bintan and Tanjung Karimun Balai. Besides the very limited locations where it is available you also need to exit the country from the same port as you got the visa.
Greetings,
Brand new to your forum here so thought I would post a quick introduction before jumping in.
I am an older guy from the US living in Thailand for the last few years. I don't live in BKK but get there on a regular basis for a bit of enjoyment.
Posting here instead of the BKK forum as I am planning a trip to Indonesia in a couple of months and am sure I will have some questions as the time gets closer.
I know the proper etiquette says to post a couple of trip reports before asking specific questions. However having never been to Indonesia no reports to post but can post a bit about.
Thailand if anyone is interested or should I just post in the BKK forum.
Regards
I'm not sure where the Globe got that info, but the only visa-on-arrival option is 30 days for US $35. I just sent a consultant through the process. The seven-day option may exist but the enterprising Immigration officials may just be ignoring it. Why sell something for $15 when you can collect $35? TTG.The USD 15 (until recently USD 10) s / t visa is only available for certain locations such as Bintan or Batam Islands. For Jakarta and Bali you need to bite the bullet and buy the 30 day one.
Chickenhawk31
07-08-14, 17:31
Lots of great info here wanted a wingman to do Bali don't have much experience in Bali.
Can someone take me under their wing to get used of the area first time travelling by myself.
Would be excellent to have another Aussie with experience over there.
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The $15,- 7 day visa is still available but only in Special Economic Zones like Batam, Bintan and Tanjung Karimun Balai. Besides the very limited locations where it is available you also need to exit the country from the same port as you got the visa.I've used the 7 day visa to enter Batam and leave through Semarang and Surabaya. At Batam you present the officers with the correct amount of money in US $ and they issue the visa without question. I think it's 9 years since the last rise in visa prices so can't really complain. Wish the price for P&P hadn't risen in 9 years.
Master Diver II
07-09-14, 03:36
Greetings,
Brand new to your forum here so thought I would post a quick introduction before jumping in.
I am an older guy from the you S living in Thailand for the last few years. I don't live in BKK but get there on a regular basis for a bit of enjoyment.
Posting here instead of the BKK forum as I am planning a trip to Indonesia in a couple of months and am sure I will have some questions as the time gets closer.
I know the proper etiquette says to post a couple of trip reports before asking specific questions. However having never been to Indonesia no reports to post but can post a bit about.
Thailand if anyone is interested or should I just post in the BKK forum.
RegardsYes you should post in the BKK forum. At least get something down. Incidentally most of us are older guys, although that is a very subjective term. I'm 50 to give you a benchmark.
MD II.
I've used the 7 day visa to enter Batam and leave through Semarang and Surabaya. At Batam you present the officers with the correct amount of money in US $ and they issue the visa without question. I think it's 9 years since the last rise in visa prices so can't really complain. Wish the price for P&P hadn't risen in 9 years.Fair enough, then again anyone who has spend some time in Indonesia knows that with some money nearly everything is possible.
In case anyone is interested, here a complete list of the revised visa charges:
VOA- 7 days (only valid in designated Special Economic Zone): $15
VO - 30 days: $35 (this is the most common one in use for tourist entering Indonesia).
Visitor Visa: $50
Multiple Entry Visitor Visa: $110
Visitor Visa extension: Rp 300,000
VITAS.
6 months: $55
1 year: $105
2 years: $180
Telex approval for the above: Rp 100,000
ITAS (regular / electronic).
6 months: Rp 450,000/ Rp 650,000
1 year: Rp 800,000/ Rp 1,000,000
2 years: Rp 1,400,000/ Rp 1,600,000
ITAP (regular / electronic).
5 years: Rp 3,500,000/ Rp 3,700,000
Unlimited: Rp 10,000,000/ Rp 10,200,000
MERP.
6 mo: Rp 600,000
1 year: Rp 1,000,000
2 years: Rp 1,750,000
Overstay (under 60 days).
Rp 300,000 per day.
... Incidentally most of us are older guys, although that is a very subjective term. I'm 50 to give you a benchmark.
MD II.50? Ah, youth! Much is yet to come, young jedi. Best, TTG.
Member #4410
07-09-14, 20:24
I'm not sure where the Globe got that info, but the only visa-on-arrival option is 30 days for US $35. I just sent a consultant through the process. The seven-day option may exist but the enterprising Immigration officials may just be ignoring it. Why sell something for $15 when you can collect $35? TTG.So probably for us Europeans it will be EUR 30.
Regards,
Ko.
Member #4410
08-15-14, 22:31
So probably for us Europeans it will be EUR 30.
Regards,
Ko.Just read on the website of the Indonesian embassy that the new price is indeed EUR 30.
Regards,
Ko.
Member #4410
08-15-14, 22:40
Now that the dreaded Ramadan is over, here's this handy little table I found to help you in planning your trips for the coming years. A long-time view never hurts.
Regards,
Ko.
I am planning my first trip to Indonesia after 5 trips to Thailand.
I have RYTFF and here are my queries:
1) Total budget for 1 month trip food, drinks and girls only 4000 $ am I ok or need to raise it?
2) Jakarta. Duration 15 days I was thinking of renting apartment but now opted to hotel apartment where you don't need to worry about cleaning the room also nice to have a swimming pool. My list now is limited to Mercure conventionb rate 47 $, Mercure Dakota 35 $ and Novotel Gaja Mada 74 $ which is close to Blok M CJs and top gu and other nihht spots. Any other recommendatoon is most appreciated prefer to keep my budget for accomodation from35 to 50 $.
3) Island now I am lost which ia better as far as beach girls and night life are concerned Bali or Batam? Also is there anything similar to patong or walking street where you can stay close to the beach and nightlife.
Thanks a million!
Robert Long
08-23-14, 18:56
Just read on the website of the Indonesian embassy that the new price is indeed EUR 30.
Regards,
Ko.Yes $35.00 US VOA, and now 200,000 airport fee to leave. Also when you arrive and you see the 1 hour line at immigration, approach one of the men with the jacket that has Immigration written on the back. Put a $20.00 in your passport and ask him for the express line. He'll walk you to the last window and hand your PP to the attendant. You'll be happy as money well spent.
This is a must in Bali as 4 747's just landed ahead of you and you face the madding crowd with all of their kids, the Chinese that don't understand what to do, and the many closed windows.
RL.
I assume there are several different mobile providers. What company do people think is the most value for data and voice. 3 G is good enough for me.
HAPPY HUNTING FRED.
Mighty Spearsman
08-29-14, 16:58
I assume there are several different mobile providers. What company do people think is the most value for data and voice. 3 G is good enough for me.
HAPPY HUNTING FRED.I use Excel (XL) but you are right, there are many good choices.
Fellow mongers,
Can you please reply to my queries in my earlier post.
Thanks
Member #4410
09-02-14, 00:21
Yes $35.00 US VOA, and now 200,000 airport fee to leave. Also when you arrive and you see the 1 hour line at immigration, approach one of the men with the jacket that has Immigration written on the back. Put a $20.00 in your passport and ask him for the express line. He'll walk you to the last window and hand your PP to the attendant. You'll be happy as money well spent.
This is a must in Bali as 4 747's just landed ahead of you and you face the madding crowd with all of their kids, the Chinese that don't understand what to do, and the many closed windows.
RL.Immigration at Cengkareng is pretty efficient; once you have paid the fee you get your visa and you can walk straight through to baggage retrieval. Arriving by KLM from Amsterdam also helps, since at that time no other wide-bodies arrive. Furthermore I make sure I'm seated in the front of the plane so I'm one of the first after business class to get out of the plane. All together I spend more time waiting for my luggage than waiting for my visa.
Regards,
Ko.
My opinion only.
1) ok lets say you drop a load everynight, ok sometimes it might be 2 in a night and a night off, sometimes a massage plus plus, sometimes a high class one. I reckon average 700 k for the banging. That equates to 700 x30= 21 m rupes.
Add to that some beers, some smokes, late night siomay. Whatever add another 100 k, so that's another 3 m rupiah.
Daytime food, you can get by with 50 k, but most likely 100 k for lunch if you don't eat the local food, so that's another 3 m rupiah.
Accommodation I guess around the 500 k a night, that's a 2-3 star hotel, so that's 15 m rupiah.
Add taxis of maybe 30 k a trip, at least every second day and its 1 m rupiah.
An occasional bender, or a quiet sessions at BATS / CJ's add 2 x2 m.
So I calc 21+3+3+15+4=46 m rupiah.
For me, that wouldn't work because the alcohol component would be alot higher, and the meals also, and I don't really dig 2 star hotels for a month at a time (mostly the breakfast is just crap).
So equate that to your USD and it at 4 kUSD.
Those hotels are Kota area which is north. BlokM is south, and a good 2 hrs between them at peak times. Look up hotels around the 'melawai' area for similar in the BlokM / CJs area.
Theres no comparison Bali to Batam IMHO.
For me Batam has nothing going for it, it is just like any other indo city, but with a small bar district. The girls are used to expats but, its full of Singaporeans on the weekend (if ever there was a reason to stay away from a place its because of winging precious Singaporeans there! I would not do Batam.
Bali. Well where to start, do you want good surf, cheap beer and food, world class restaurant, balinese culture, sanur fuck shops, cheap massages everywhere, ripoff clothing, full of drunken aussies in Kuta / Legian at night, drugs, partying in private villas and nightclubs, I could go on and on. I won't even start about the rest of the island. For me, Bali it is. But it isn't for everyone.
I'd love to hear others opinions of Batam v Bali.
Thanks HHM.
I am planning my first trip to Indonesia after 5 trips to Thailand.
I have RYTFF and here are my queries:
1) Total budget for 1 month trip food, drinks and girls only 4000 $ am I ok or need to raise it?
2) Jakarta. Duration 15 days I was thinking of renting apartment but now opted to hotel apartment where you don't need to worry about cleaning the room also nice to have a swimming pool. My list now is limited to Mercure conventionb rate 47 $, Mercure Dakota 35 $ and Novotel Gaja Mada 74 $ which is close to Blok M CJs and top gu and other nihht spots. Any other recommendatoon is most appreciated prefer to keep my budget for accomodation from35 to 50 $.
3) Island now I am lost which ia better as far as beach girls and night life are concerned Bali or Batam? Also is there anything similar to patong or walking street where you can stay close to the beach and nightlife.
Thanks a million!
Asian MP Lover
09-03-14, 02:04
I assume there are several different mobile providers. What company do people think is the most value for data and voice. 3 G is good enough for me.
HAPPY HUNTING FRED.3 G is the best you can hope for. There is no 4 G in Indonesia yet.
In my experience, Telkomsel and XL has the best plans. XL is said to have the best data service in Jakarta area, whilst Telkomsel in general has the best nationwide coverage. Right now XL has an Unlimited data plan for 49.000 Rp / m. Good value for money.
Stay away from Indosat and the other smaller providers as their networks have the quality standard catering for those who are spending a dollar a month.
Also note that all telkom providers do content blocking (legal requirement). So sites like this may not be possible to access.
4 G was launched yesterday, saw it on TV last night, I think only in Jakarta for now. Can't comment if it any good though.
And yes, Telkomsel is the best coverage.
3 G is the best you can hope for. There is no 4 G in Indonesia yet.
In my experience, Telkomsel and XL has the best plans. XL is said to have the best data service in Jakarta area, whilst Telkomsel in general has the best nationwide coverage. Right now XL has an Unlimited data plan for 49.000 Rp / m. Good value for money.
Stay away from Indosat and the other smaller providers as their networks have the quality standard catering for those who are spending a dollar a month.
Also note that all telkom providers do content blocking (legal requirement). So sites like this may not be possible to access.
Micky Mouse
09-10-14, 05:34
Hi.
A US company based in Singapore looking for distributors in Indonesia for sex supplements for male and female.
These supplements are sold in Singapore and Malaysia.
Please PM for contact details.
Hi.
A US company based in Singapore looking for distributors in Indonesia for sex supplements for male and female.
These supplements are sold in Singapore and Malaysia.
Please PM for contact details.I'm interested in the name of these supplements.
I am on a short shedule so I could not rtff this time.
Could anyone tell me how much strong liquor are we allowed to bring into immigration in indonesia? It is mentionned on the immigration card when you arrive, so if somebody remembers I would appreciate it. Thanks.
Robert Long
09-14-14, 02:19
I am on a short shedule so I could not rtff this time.
Could anyone tell me how much strong liquor are we allowed to bring into immigration in indonesia? It is mentionned on the immigration card when you arrive, so if somebody remembers I would appreciate it. Thanks.I always pick up a liter of Cognac before I enter Bali. They never check, but they have 3 bozos on the scanning belt. The only country I know that scans incoming baggage. You could get a couple of liters and ask the person behind you to put it thru with their baggage. And then collect on the other side.
Indonesia is the most greedy country when it comes to taxes or duty. A bottle of Australian wine that I can but in Hawaii for $6 or $7, sells for 400,000 rp in Bali. Just pure greed.
RL.
Could anyone tell me how much strong liquor are we allowed to bring into immigration in indonesia? It is mentionned on the immigration card when you arrive, so if somebody remembers I would appreciate it. Thanks.Legally you can bring one liter.
Cooze Hound
09-15-14, 06:56
I am on a short shedule so I could not rtff this time.
Could anyone tell me how much strong liquor are we allowed to bring into immigration in indonesia? It is mentionned on the immigration card when you arrive, so if somebody remembers I would appreciate it. Thanks.As mentioned 1 litre but in Jakarta I usually bring 2 litres, never an issue but it will be one day, Bali is stricter in my experience.
One thing is for sure if you did have a problem some discreet cash will sort it out.
Member #4410
09-20-14, 01:16
As mentioned 1 litre but in Jakarta I usually bring 2 litres, never an issue but it will be one day, Bali is stricter in my experience.
One thing is for sure if you did have a problem some discreet cash will sort it out.And if you are of a nervous disposition: many supermarkets in Jakarta have a discreet corner where you can buy wodka, whiskey, cognac, etc. Various brands of beer are sold in the regular area.
Regards,
Ko.
Thanks for the reply's.
I did get my 1 liter of whisky in no problem.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2838843/Welcome-Sex-Mountain-remote-religious-site-people-sex-strangers-bring-good-fortune.html?ito=social-facebook
Joel Goodsen
11-18-14, 14:03
Sex mountain. For me, a case of cheap sensationalism done by the Australian news program "dateline" to get the viewers in.
It is in the media every where. I guess they named it "Sex mountain" for best effect. As if the influx of sex-tourists from Australia is not high enough.
I remember the area / sex scene was covered here in ISG without the sensationalism. Please find below a link to a great field report by Gonzo Two, posted 11 years ago.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?969-Other-Areas&p=96466&viewfull=1#post96466.
Here's a bit on what worked for me negotiating cab prices in Ubud and Kuta. I stayed four days in a hotel near the southern end of Ubud and four days in one near the eastern end of Kuta (under two km from the chaos, as the pig flies).
In Ubud, there are no meters, and everything is negotiable. Normal "around-town" hops I just paid the 50 K they asked for, without trying very hard to get that any lower. (I'm 66 years old and not in particularly good shape, but I can assure you that walking works in Ubud, if you can take the heat.).
In Kuta, the taxis all have meters, but almost all the drivers want to negotiate a fixed price. It's easier to gouge you that way, and if they put it on the meter, the taxi company gets bigger cut.
I made several trips between my hotel and the intersection of Jalan Legian and Jalan Raya Kuta (one and a half or two km):
- The first time, the driver wanted 50 K, and I paid it.
- The second time, the driver actually wanted to put it on the meter (I don't know why) and it was under 20 K.
- Thereafter, I started negotiating a fixed fare. 30 K turned out to be a "win-win" most often. But in downtown Kuta, a lot of drivers open with a 100 K bid. If they started there, I just walked away.
Bottom line: I strongly recommend figuring out what the meter would be for a given trip, and using that as a basis for your negotiation. If you simply pay the meter, you'll see a lot more of the "scenic route".
Like I mentioned before, I will be staying in Jakarta for almost 4 months. For that, the most common visa will be the social culture one that can be extended until a stay of a total of six months.
But I'm considering a different way and please share your personal or near personal experiences. No"hear say" please.
For the first two months I plan to get a VOA for 30 days and extend it with another 30 days. So that makes 60 days on one VOA.
At the end of those first 60 days I plan to leave RI and return ASAP to collect my second VOA. This one I will also extend with 30 days, thus covering about 4 months with two VOA's.
My questions are: is it true that a VOA is extendible and how long do I have to leave the RI before collecting my second VOA? If the first VOA is extendible, so will be the second one?
I have found the answers but can't find a way to delete the former posting.
Consider it non-existent.
I have found the answers but can't find a way to delete the former posting.
Consider it non-existent.Maybe this is redundant but can I make another suggestion that is somewhat hassle free compared with having to extend a VoA? Before I got my yearly visa I used to go to Singapore early in the morning, visit a travel agent and ask them to arrange a visa for me at the Indonesian embassy there, that way you could get 60 days in one go. The travel agent usually got this done in one day, you hand over your passport in the morning and collect it in the late afternoon so you didn't even have to stay over, although I always took advantage of an over-nighter in Singapore back then. After your 60 days are up you simply hop over to Sing and repeat the process. It always worked for me, although I haven't had to do it in over five years now but it might be worth checking out.
Maybe this is redundant but can I make another suggestion that is somewhat hassle free compared with having to extend a VoA? Before I got my yearly visa I used to go to Singapore early in the morning, visit a travel agent and ask them to arrange a visa for me at the Indonesian embassy there, that way you could get 60 days in one go. The travel agent usually got this done in one day, you hand over your passport in the morning and collect it in the late afternoon so you didn't even have to stay over, although I always took advantage of an over-nighter in Singapore back then. After your 60 days are up you simply hop over to Sing and repeat the process. It always worked for me, although I haven't had to do it in over five years now but it might be worth checking out.Thanks for the suggestion. I will consider doing it. Can you PM me the phone number of your man in Singapore? However, due to circumstances, I won't be able to avoid the first VOA.
Hi Gents.
As its quiet, I thought I'd post a few questions / comments.
1. Does anyone know of a vibrator / toys supplier in Jakarta? I know there was some discussions on the forum about Mal Ambassador previously, but I can't find the place. I assume it is no longer there?
2. Has anyone else had success with taking Triple Lecithin? I have found it quiet useful to increase the ejaculate volume, there is info on the internet about this topic if you do your research. Why I hear you ask. Well 2 reasons, first hers-indoors doesn't suspect as much when you can dump a big load after you have performed earlier in the day, and also an increase in volume means an increase in sensation, or so I personally believe.
3. Anybody have any luck with the herbal viagra type product. Usually the bottle says something about 'mens stamina' I get offered these alot when I am in the apotek buying condoms. I am happy to pay for the real thing, but I am curious. Anyone have experience with this, does it work?
Thanks HHM.
1. Does anyone know of a vibrator / toys supplier in Jakarta? I know there was some discussions on the forum about Mal Ambassador previously, but I can't find the place. I assume it is no longer there?
Damn, I had read those posts too and was planning on going to that place on my next trip. Hopefully somebody has some recent intel.
2. Has anyone else had success with taking Triple Lecithin?
3. Anybody have any luck with the herbal viagra type product..2. Can you buy Triple Lecithin in Jakarta?
3. If you with 'herbal viagra' mean Jamu things; yes. I have used Urat Madu more than 1 year now, work good with me. 20 k for pack with 2 capsules, I pay 100 k for 7 packs.
Thanks for the suggestion. I will consider doing it. Can you PM me the phone number of your man in Singapore? However, due to circumstances, I won't be able to avoid the first VOA.I didn't have a particular agent as such I merely used a travel agent, in my case the one in Lucky Plaza, and they called up their guy. If you went direct to the embassy you could do it yourself but I dare say you'd soon meet frustration and confusion as you wandered around among the hordes of domestic workers trying to find the right form or join the right queue. As with all Indonesian bureaucracy it's best to pay someone else to do the work for you while you enjoy the day strolling around Singapore admiring the pretty Chinese girls in their hot pants or enjoying the view from a few steps below them on the escalator as a breeze lifts their flimsy short summer dresses. Not that I would ever do a thing like that you understand, perish the thought.
Master Diver II
11-28-14, 02:25
Hi Gents.
1. Does anyone know of a vibrator / toys supplier in Jakarta? I know there was some discussions on the forum about Mal Ambassador previously, but I can't find the place. I assume it is no longer there?
Thanks HHM.I haven't been, but did you ask anyone nearby there. My general experience in Jakarta is that it will never be overtly sold. If you don't ask, you won't see it sort of thing.
As with all Indonesian bureaucracy it's best to pay someone else to do the work for you while you enjoy the day strolling around Singapore admiring the pretty Chinese girls in their hot pants or enjoying the view from a few steps below them on the escalator as a breeze lifts their flimsy short summer dresses. Not that I would ever do a thing like that you understand, perish the thought.LOLOLOLOLOLOL Indeed - shocking that anyone could conceive of such a notion;):D.
MD II.
Mighty Spearsman
11-28-14, 05:00
Hi Gents.
As it's quiet, I thought I'd post a few questions / comments.
1. Does anyone know of a vibrator / toys supplier in Jakarta? I know there was some discussions on the forum about Mal Ambassador previously, but I can't find the place. I assume it is no longer there.Go inside the front door of Mal Ambassador, go up to the second floor and then head towards the western building (ITC Kuningan) where Carrefour is located. There's a bridge-way between the two buildings, you can tell by the floor sloping downwards. As you are walking through the bridge-way part, there's a booth on the right-hand side that sells all that sort of stuff. There's usually at least one cute 20-ish female who will come up to you to try to get you to visit her booth. You'll have to walk behind the booth to buy the more risque stuff, but I believe you should be able to find vibrators there.
And don't be shy. Speak up and let her know exactly what you are looking for. Good luck!
2. Can you buy Triple Lecithin in Jakarta?
3. If you with 'herbal viagra' mean Jamu things; yes. I have used Urat Madu more than 1 year now, work good with me. 20 k for pack with 2 capsules, I pay 100 k for 7 packs.2. Yes. At GNC.
3. Ok, I'll check that out, thanks for the help.
Go inside the front door of Mal Ambassador, go up to the second floor and then head towards the western building (ITC Kuningan) where Carrefour is located. There's a bridge-way between the two buildings, you can tell by the floor sloping downwards. As you are walking through the bridge-way part, there's a booth on the right-hand side that sells all that sort of stuff. There's usually at least one cute 20-ish female who will come up to you to try to get you to visit her booth. You'll have to walk behind the booth to buy the more risque stuff, but I believe you should be able to find vibrators there.
And don't be shy. Speak up and let her know exactly what you are looking for. Good luck!Thanks MS. I'll check it and report back.
As with all Indonesian bureaucracy it's best to pay someone else to do the work for you while you enjoy the day strolling around Singapore admiring the pretty Chinese girls in their hot pants or enjoying the view from a few steps below them on the escalator as a breeze lifts their flimsy short summer dresses. Not that I would ever do a thing like that you understand, perish the thought.Two VOA's is the solution. Since I have to leave RI for the second one, I might as well enjoy chili crab and, since I'm a bad guy, look for the views you described. (wink).
Member #4410
01-04-15, 06:42
Curious. I am now at the Century Park Hotel (previously Atlet Century) and accessing ISG through the in-room wifi poses no problem at all. Have the authorities come to their senses?
Curious. I am now at the Century Park Hotel (previously Atlet Century) and accessing ISG through the in-room wifi poses no problem at all. Have the authorities come to their senses?I can't answer that directly, but in my experience the degree to which ISG and other similar websites are blocked varies greatly from hotel to hotel. And even at hotels where it is usually blocked, such as the Grand Hyatt, every now and then I have been able to get through only to later find it is being blocked again.
But wouldn't it be great if the blocking has stopped altogether. I haven't been in Indonesia since the new President took office in October; maybe things have changed in the name of freedom of speech (but I somehow doubt it).
You should be able to access the site via a proxy.
It works in China.
I can't answer that directly, but in my experience the degree to which ISG and other similar websites are blocked varies greatly from hotel to hotel. And even at hotels where it is usually blocked, such as the Grand Hyatt, every now and then I have been able to get through only to later find it is being blocked again.
But wouldn't it be great if the blocking has stopped altogether. I haven't been in Indonesia since the new President took office in October; maybe things have changed in the name of freedom of speech (but I somehow doubt it).
Hi MS.
I forgot to report back, yes spot-on with the location description. They have 3 types, a rabbit, a standard cock shaped one and a little clit one. They also sell procomil for delaying the man juice, should one be so inclined.
Thanks buddy.
Cheers
Go inside the front door of Mal Ambassador, go up to the second floor and then head towards the western building (ITC Kuningan) where Carrefour is located. There's a bridge-way between the two buildings, you can tell by the floor sloping downwards. As you are walking through the bridge-way part, there's a booth on the right-hand side that sells all that sort of stuff. There's usually at least one cute 20-ish female who will come up to you to try to get you to visit her booth. You'll have to walk behind the booth to buy the more risque stuff, but I believe you should be able to find vibrators there.
And don't be shy. Speak up and let her know exactly what you are looking for. Good luck!.
Member #4410
01-16-15, 14:50
Go inside the front door of Mal Ambassador, go up to the second floor and then head towards the western building (ITC Kuningan) where Carrefour is located. There's a bridge-way between the two buildings, you can tell by the floor sloping downwards. As you are walking through the bridge-way part, there's a booth on the right-hand side that sells all that sort of stuff. There's usually at least one cute 20-ish female who will come up to you to try to get you to visit her booth. You'll have to walk behind the booth to buy the more risque stuff, but I believe you should be able to find vibrators there.
And don't be shy. Speak up and let her know exactly what you are looking for. Good luck!Thanks for the roadmap MS. I went there and bought a vibrator and a vibrating egg for my freebie (previously known as Novi Tinggi from Maribaya). The girl first showed a sort of horse-sized example but later more sensible sized examples came on the counter. This counter is a courious showcase of boxes of Cialis, handcuffs, leather mini-skirts, etc. And this in a Muslim country.
Novi was very pleased with the toys but would not let me take pictures of her playing with them.
Health and Safety Warning: this girls gets extremely wet when excited, to the point of making wet spots in the sheets, and is very noisy when she comes.
Pictures to come in the Photo Gallery.
Regards,
Ko.
I was preparing for my next trip to Indonesia so I checked out the Indonesia thread and, of course, the Photo Gallery.
Inappropriate title methinks.
Between Post 2090 and 2108 on that thread, there are only 3 posts with pics and 16 comments.
I suggest you need a Photo Gallery Chit Chat thread like on the Philippines board. I don't go to PGs to read comments unless they are attached to the pics.
Splitting chat and photos into separate thread might have been nice a few years ago. But Jackson added that feature where you can simply click the "forum photos" tab and see only the photos.
Mighty Spearsman
01-28-15, 02:01
Thanks for the road map MS. I went there and bought a vibrator and a vibrating egg for my freebie (previously known as Novi Tinggi from Maribaya). The girl first showed a sort of horse-sized example but later more sensible sized examples came on the counter. This counter is a curious showcase of boxes of Cialis, handcuffs, leather mini-skirts, etc. And this in a Muslim country.
Novi was very pleased with the toys but would not let me take pictures of her playing with them.
Health and Safety Warning: this girl gets extremely wet when excited, to the point of making wet spots in the sheets, and is very noisy when she comes.
Pictures to come in the Photo Gallery.
Regards,
Hi MS.
I forgot to report back, yes spot-on with the location description. They have 3 types, a rabbit, a standard cock shaped one and a little clit one. They also sell procomil for delaying the man juice, should one be so inclined.
Thanks buddy.Happy to read that my directions were understandable.
Ko, I had to laugh when you wrote that Novi wouldn't let you take pictures of her with the toys, since she clearly didn't mind you taking pictures of her using her BJ skills.
And yes, it does seem strange to see all of those products in a Muslim country, but Indonesians always seem to have a healthy (and earthy) attitude when it comes to sex.
RuffNTuff88
01-28-15, 12:32
Try with a proxy site. It will work, as its working now as I type sitting in a hotel in indo.
Curious. I am now at the Century Park Hotel (previously Atlet Century) and accessing ISG through the in-room wifi poses no problem at all. Have the authorities come to their senses?
Member #4410
02-05-15, 22:13
Try with a proxy site. It will work, as its working now as I type sitting in a hotel in indo.As I mentioned in my post, I had no problems at all. Why should I resort to a proxy?
LifeSavour
02-16-15, 22:01
Long time in Ukraine. Last 5 years in Saudi. Now going out on final exit and may want to visit / stay long term around Bali. I am a futures trader and need great internet. What are my prospects?
Thanks!
LSGuy
Member #4716
02-24-15, 21:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLnzD42u7lU
Has anyone been here? I'm in. Let's go? Any wingmen want to come along?
Tommy Suharto
02-25-15, 00:56
It has been closed down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLnzD42u7lU
Has anyone been here? I'm in. Let's go? Any wingmen want to come along?
Cooze Hound
02-25-15, 06:54
Long time in Ukraine. Last 5 years in Saudi. Now going out on final exit and may want to visit / stay long term around Bali. I am a futures trader and need great internet. What are my prospects?
Thanks!
LSGuyBali has 4 G LTE, its not super fast but better than 3 G, and depending on where you end up there are some fibre optic options.
Tommy Suharto
02-26-15, 00:11
It has been closed down.Funny. In my post, I had put a link in to a Wikipedia article. I guess it has been removed from the forum, but I don't quite understand. Youtube links are allowed and Wikipedia links are not allowed?
Anyway for anyone who wants to read about sex mountain, just type it in Google. The Central Java Governor has banned it and effectively closed it down.
Big Ass Eater
04-11-15, 21:54
Hi there,
I'm curious about South East Asia since I've never been there. How much money would I need and where can I find cheap hostels in Jakarta? Would 1,000 dollars cover basic expenses for a month? Which other places outside Jakarta are worth checking out and not too expensive? I'm not fanatic about beaches so that is not a priority to me.
Appreciate some tips from Indonesians or expats living there!
I arrived in Bali a few days ago and began renting a villa a bit away from the action on the beach. Basically, I plan to be here for a few months and don't want to pay the high hotel prices for property near Seminyak and Legian Beach so decided to rent on a monthly basis and reduce my living costs.
Where I am staying is on a quiet road where taxis or cycles don't drive by so tonight I tried Uber for second time ever. The other time was last year in San Francisco to get a ride to airport from the city. First, the Uber site indicated they had a promotion until this Saturday evening, which was listed as qfree at certain times of the day. Actually, it gives you 100,000 rp credit or about $8 USD. I missed out on that rate as the evening or peak times has a charge but it was a very reasonable 15 k rp (about $1. 20 USD) from my villa to the Sky Garden in Kuta. The guy picked me up in in a nice Toyota in about five minutes from my location. The traffic was awful as we approached the Sky Garden and the driver told me someone else owns all these Uber vehicles in Bali and he is an employee, so not exactly in the spirit of independent entrepenuership that Uber likes to represent. Though at that fare price I wonder how anyone can make money. Because of the traffic, it took 20 minutes.
So I entered Sky Garden around midnight, which had a cover cost of 150 k rp with one mixed drink included. It had some sort of cirque Soliel knock off going on but somewhat entertaining for this type of venue. It was packed with tourists and shortly after I arrived, the local ladies of the evening started to arrive. The real hot ones were ignoring me (looking for Mr. Right?) though no problem with the chubbies coming over and pestering me. There was a mix of really attractive girls and some not so much. Some were young and quite a few were pushing the 40 yo barrier. Finally, a girl from Surubaya came over who was cute and owned a nice figure. After exchanging pleasantries, I asked her price and she said that she wanted $200 for all night! And she did not say 2 m rupees as I had told her I was an American. Maybe I need to return to my old strategy of being Icelandic.
Basically told her she was too expensive for me and let it ride but not before exchanging numbers. Might call her at a later date and renegotiate her ask price. Joked with her that I would have to eat rice for a week but would call her.
On my return, I walked several blocks away from the traffic, which was still quite heavy at 2 am. Then, I contacted Uber again. This ride with a new Toyota SUV, took a bit longer, maybe 10 minutes for the pickup, but was pleased to find that the charge was free due to their promotion though thought it was peculiar that they were offering a free price at this time of the evening.
My driver took me to La Vida Loca on Legian Beach, which was packed with overweight hookers and MILF's. Nary a '7' there. Around 3:45, it seemed to pick up a bit with more girls arriving probably looking for a second score for the evening but there did not seem to be a lot of punters. Naturally, they were pretty aggressive towards me as I looked like new meat though politely brushed them off. I like the SYT's and they were just not there. The night before a local guy told me the girls want a minimum of 2 m rp for all night ($150 US) and 500 rp for short time. And it's funny, at 3:30 am, it's considered long time if they stay to dawn. Kind of ridiculous given the triple weak talent there. The guy tried to justify their prices because he said they had expenses related to going to the club. Right: no cover charge, they drink soda, and try to get guys to buy them drinks.
After nursing a beer, I contacted Uber again. However, this time I (3:30 am) I could not find a ride even though the site indicated drivers were available but they never appeared to get any closer on the Google map so I cancelled a few times. Finally, gave up and decided to walk back (about 20 minutes) but was relentlessly pursued by what appeared to be several different long legged chicks on motorcycles (gender not completely determined).
But Uber did indicate the price of 15000 to 18000 rupees from the club to my villa so quite reasonable as it's about a five minute drive. Finally a taxi stopped and wanted 50 k rupees. Using the Uber pricing model, I countered with 20 rp when he asked me what I wanted to pay. He got pissed off and drove off but quickly turned around and agreed to my price so there you have it as these taxi guys are always quoting me 50 rp here to basically go across the street.
Anyway, now that I am sharpening my negotiating skills and getting adjusted to a new locale, I hope to have more dynamic reports in near future.
Member #4410
06-01-15, 10:45
As I mentioned in my post, I had no problems at all. Why should I resort to a proxy?I am now in Atlet Century and the connection to ISG is fine using the in-room wifi, albeit not particularly high-speed.
Regards,
Ko.
John Aldrich
06-04-15, 16:27
Hi there,
I'm curious about South East Asia since I've never been there. How much money would I need and where can I find cheap hostels in Jakarta? Would 1,000 dollars cover basic expenses for a month? Which other places outside Jakarta are worth checking out and not too expensive? I'm not fanatic about beaches so that is not a priority to me.
Appreciate some tips from Indonesians or expats living there!It depends on what sort of lifestyle you want. You maybe able to get some stinky Kost accommodation for USD 100 to USD 150 a month. And you can eat out of Warung's which are roadside restaurants. Or you could go to the backpackers place in Jalan Jaksa and get a room and use the common toilets. Your major expense is going to be accommodation. In case you desire not to hire a cab and instead use the motorcycle taxi's which is known as the Ojeks and eat out of warung's, then I guess USD 1000 should suffice. But for not to be taken for a ride, you need to know the local language. But, do not bother to look for mongering with the USD 1000 for a month, unless you want to go to the sidelines of the railway lines and screw a female which the low end locals do. But, its not safe though for a foreigner to explore such nocturnal activities.
Better to come in with USD 3 K, hire a decent hotel, which you could possible get between USD 15 to 20, (Search in booking.com or in rajakamar.com) and eat in cheap restaurants and monger maybe twice a week or ten days.
Have fun,
Cheera.
Member #4410
06-14-15, 14:22
President Joko Widodo has signed a law making visa on arrival again free of cost for a number of countries. Not a large saving (USD 35 or EUR 30) but every little bit helps.
Regards,
Ko.
President Joko Widodo has signed a law making visa on arrival again free of cost for a number of countries. Not a large saving (USD 35 or EUR 30) but every little bit helps.
Regards,
Ko.It's not only about the amount, but it will save a lot of time. In what category is NL now?
It's not only about the amount, but it will save a lot of time. In what category is NL now?I'm guessing a visa will still be issued but the payment counter can be skipped. As with all things in life the devil is in the detail. The good news is this new visitors visa is not just officially for tourists but also for those on social and business trips.
Unfortunately the number of entry points has been limited. I've drawn the short straw as my two common points of entry have been excluded HarbourFront, Batam and Semarang The Indonesian Embassy In London are trying to help me with this but they have told me to be patient. I can see this being a huge money spinner in Batam when weekend visitors are told they've arrived at the wrong harbour. If the Batam Immigration officer can conjure up a solution I expect it to be a very very expensive one.
The entry points are Soekarno-Hatta International Airport in Jakarta, Ngurah Rai International Airport in Bali, Kualanamu International Airport in Medan, Hang Nadim International Airport in Batam and Juanda International Airport in Surabaya. The seaports are Sri Bintan Pura International Port and Tanjung Uban International Port in Riau Islands as well as Sekupang International Port and Batam Center International Port in Batam. - See more at: www.setkab.go.id.
Joel Goodsen
06-17-15, 06:37
It's not only about the amount, but it will save a lot of time. In what category is NL now?NL is in the list of visa-free countries.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/06/13/jokowi-signs-visa-fee-exemptions.html
The new policy aims to attract around a million additional tourists per annum to Indonesia and make Jakarta more attractive for visitors.
As an implication, I guess we can expect some price hikes in the most popular Jakarta venues within the next few years.
I'm guessing a visa will still be issued but the payment counter can be skipped..The entry now is possible with "visa exempt" so you don't get a visa but just a stamp with entry date and most probably latest departure date.
In any case you still can buy the VOA if you want to stay more than 30 days and get this prolonged.
Dee
Member #4410
06-17-15, 11:49
It's not only about the amount, but it will save a lot of time. In what category is NL now?NL is in this category. The separate payment counter had already been abolished; in my last two visits I paid my EUR 30 at the counter where I received my visa, so this will not save huge amounts of time. It's just a friendly gesture, I guess.
Member #4410
06-17-15, 11:59
A more useful change in immigration policy is the abolishing of the immigration card. On my last entry (May 31) the cabin staff on the plane only handed out the blue customs forms. When I asked for the immigration form I was told they didn't have any. In KL ground staff confirmed that the form is no longer with us. Saves the bother of keeping it safe for your exit from the country.
A second change was announced on landing at Cengkareng. The airport tax has been abolished for tickets bought after a certain date (February, if I recall correctly). I bought mine in January, so just to be sure I will keep 150,000 at the ready, but who knows. Another friendly gesture.
IllusionHeart
06-17-15, 19:03
A second change was announced on landing at Cengkareng. The airport tax has been abolished for tickets bought after a certain date (February, if I recall correctly). I bought mine in January, so just to be sure I will keep 150,000 at the ready, but who knows. Another friendly gesture.Koperen, The aiport tax is now included in the tickets purchased after February. I has purchased my Air Asia ticket from Jakarta to Singapore in January. When I tried checking online it wouldn't let me do it. I called up Air Asia customer care and they told me that I needed to pay the airport tax and then will be able to check in. I asked them if I could pay at the airport to which they declined. I had to pay the same online through credit card 2 days prior to flight date post which I checked in and flew back on 8th May.
I would suggest you call and check with your airline in advance regarding payment of the airport tax and not wait till the travel date.
Member #4410
06-18-15, 08:36
Koperen, The aiport tax is now included in the tickets purchased after February. I has purchased my Air Asia ticket from Jakarta to Singapore in January.
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I would suggest you call and check with your airline in advance regarding payment of the airport tax and not wait till the travel date.I thought as much regarding the inclusion in the ticket price. As for checking in, I already have a seat reserved, so I can do it at the airport as well, but I normally did it for convenience's sake from my hotel. I can use the priority lane, so not much time will be lost.
President Joko Widodo has signed a law making visa on arrival again free of cost for a number of countries. Not a large saving (USD 35 or EUR 30) but every little bit helps.
Regards,
Ko.The Jakarta post article says the Indonesian tourist minister expects the waiver of VOA fees to result in at least 500,000 more tourists during the remainder of this year alone. Does this make any sense to anyone?
Member #4410
06-18-15, 14:38
The Jakarta post article says the Indonesian tourist minister expects the waiver of VOA fees to result in at least 500,000 more tourists during the remainder of this year alone. Does this make any sense to anyone?Not to me. At least, I was not deterred by a visa costing EUR 30. That's peanuts compared to ticketprice, hotel cost and daily costs. But it sounds good if nobody does the calculation.
The Jakarta post article says the Indonesian tourist minister expects the waiver of VOA fees to result in at least 500,000 more tourists during the remainder of this year alone. Does this make any sense to anyone?I guess that depends on the definition of the word tourist. If it's a money spending tourist on vacation, they won't care much about the 35 usd when considering Indonesia as a vacation spot. If it's someone looking for a cheaper visa run, they will love it.
IllusionHeart
06-18-15, 15:35
I thought as much regarding the inclusion in the ticket price. As for checking in, I already have a seat reserved, so I can do it at the airport as well, but I normally did it for convenience's sake from my hotel. I can use the priority lane, so not much time will be lost.I also had a reserved seat but the call centre guys were insisting that I pay through card online and it was not possible to pay at the airport. I didn't want to take chance hence I did. You can try your luck at the airport.
I guess that depends on the definition of the word tourist. If it's a money spending tourist on vacation, they won't care much about the 35 usd when considering Indonesia as a vacation spot. If it's someone looking for a cheaper visa run, they will love it.Sure?
Then the visa runner didn't do the maths.
The visa exempt is not possible to prolong, so you have to do a visa run every 30 days instead of every 60 days.
Dee
Sure?
Then the visa runner didn't do the maths.
The visa exempt is not possible to prolong, so you have to do a visa run every 30 days instead of every 60 days.
DeePerhaps visa runners from other countries that now might consider to do the visa run TO Indonesia?
What a target could be are expatriates living in other Asian cities. They are usually with a family, so 2 adults with 2/3 kids coming to Bali for a weekend are now saving at least US 140.
Sure, perhaps it's a small amount in the bigger scheme of things, but it could be that with that small "saving" some families might pull the trigger on doing that 1 additional trip down to Bali for the long weekend where they usually just stayed home in Singapore / Hong Kong / Shanghai / Beijing / Taipei etc etc.
Not that I see them reaching 500.000 additional pax with that alone but ah well, it's a start.
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