Bali

[Loose Cannon]

I have been largely a silent observer of this forum for the past 2-3 years. I have effectively utilized the information I gathered in this forum in my conquests of south east Asia. I have mongered in Bangkok, Pattaya, Singapore and Bali and found the information in this forum adequate. All the hrs and hrs of RTFF helped me understand the best price and where to get good pussy. I am an Indian. Early 30, fit, tall, dark with decent personality. I normally travel alone. As much as people appreciate and are excited about meeting an Indian and acknowledging its great culture, it did not win me any easy / free pussy unlike a white Caucasian male however old he is. (its just an observation. Looks greener on that side) I have tried the Indonesian cupid way, and have not got received any response at all (not a paid subscriber, only verified). I have learnt to live with it and so pay for pussy is my only way available. This is exactly where this forum helps. I got great information, up to date pricing and where to go and what to look for. Normally in a year, as a part of my vacation. I travel for 2 weeks with 1 week reserved for socially approved activities and 1 week in my own pleasure. I will post my FR here soon. Please forgive as it is 2 months old. Better late than never.

[Loose Cannon]

After a visit of Flores, which was my holiday to show to friends I landed in Bali. I have always noticed that Kuta, Legian / Seminyak has a better exchange rate for my dollar than Sannur or any other location. So after landing I got my money exchanged in Legian area. Now that I now have the money, I wanted to experience the famous Balinese massage. I got hijacked by 3 girls on the street close to Bintang supermarket, who offered Balinese full body massage for 70 k per hour. I knew what it will lead to based on the suggestive massages I got during the time when they tried to entice me to get massage from them. Was led into a side road with a small massage parlour with beds and curtains as separators. Was asked to strip to my underwear for the massage to start. First half HR consists of back-rub which was without any incident. Once I turned facing upwards, massage started taking a backseat and slow tease started getting regular. At one point of time, one of the other girls walked in and whispered if I wanted extra, giving my dick a squeeze. I asked for price, she said 1 junta for a fuck. I laughed it off and asked to complete the massage well as I can't pay for more. Then started the haggling, with me holding on to 200 and they demanding 800. Soon I was surrounded with five girls trying to work out a deal with me. My masseur was relatively elder compared to the other girls and did not participate eagerly as the other girls. Enter a sixth girl who looked cute and this tipped the scale in their favor. After some time, we agreed upon price of 400 k. Once I paid the money, I was asked to remove my underwear. Again the haggling started that I need to pay extra for BJ / sex. I asked what did I pay for. They told I only paid for the owner of parlour to looks the other way while I have fun here. I told I am not paying anything extra, asked them to continue with their hand jobs. I also told them that unless I have access to any of their boobs or have sex I won't be cum soon. Since they wanted more for themselves and I was not giving, they all took turns to shag me to cum early. It was a lovely experience. Felt like a king getting shagged by 5 PYT, Only drawback was I didn't get to touch any boobs / ass. Basically I did not see skin and was only given a hand job albeit by 5 different girls, after 15 min of heavenly bliss, I finally came and thanked them and left for Sannur my stay for 3 more days.

Rookie mistake was not to confirm what I am paying for. Had I been clear that I am paying 400 k for a pop, I could have nailed one. Instead I was had to get satisfied only with hand job.

Damage - 400 K for hand job.

[AndrewZGrant]

Hi there,

First time going to Bali and interested in hooking up with a (or a few) Russian / Euro girls. Saw some comments on Bali back page. How legit is that and any other places you guys will recommend? Any advice for a newbie would be greatly appreciated!

[Shuga]

Going to Moscow next week. Any info where I can pick up Balinese / Indonesian girls?


Hi there,

First time going to Bali and interested in hooking up with a (or a few) Russian / Euro girls.

[Chimera29]

Dear brothers,

I'm travelling to Bali this month end, Need your help with trusted and tried contacts for FS in Bali. I searched in Backpage and Locanto and little skeptical to trust those days. So seeking fellow mongers valuable help with contacts. Please do PM the contacts. It would be really helpful.

[Robert Long]

After a visit of Flores, which was my holiday to show to friends I landed in Bali. I have always noticed that Kuta, Legian / Seminyak has a better exchange rate for my dollar than Sannur or any other location. So after landing I got my money exchanged in Legian area. Now that I now have the money, I wanted to experience the famous Balinese massage. I got hijacked by 3 girls on the street close to Bintang supermarket, who offered Balinese full body massage for 70 k per hour. I knew what it will lead to based on the suggestive massages I got during the time when they tried to entice me to get massage from them. Was led into a side road with a small massage parlour with beds and curtains as separators. Was asked to strip to my underwear for the massage to start. First half HR consists of back-rub which was without any incident. Once I turned facing upwards, massage started taking a backseat and slow tease started getting regular. At one point of time, one of the other girls walked in and whispered if I wanted extra, giving my dick a squeeze. I asked for price, she said 1 junta for a fuck. I laughed it off and asked to complete the massage well as I can't pay for more. Then started the haggling, with me holding on to 200 and they demanding 800. Soon I was surrounded with five girls trying to work out a deal with me. My masseur was relatively elder compared to the other girls and did not participate eagerly as the other girls. Enter a sixth girl who looked cute and this tipped the scale in their favor. After some time, we agreed upon price of 400 k. Once I paid the money, I was asked to remove my underwear. Again the haggling started that I need to pay extra for BJ / sex. I asked what did I pay for. They told I only paid for the owner of parlour to looks the other way while I have fun here. I told I am not paying anything extra, asked them to continue with their hand jobs. I also told them that unless I have access to any of their boobs or have sex I won't be cum soon. Since they wanted more for themselves and I was not giving, they all took turns to shag me to cum early. It was a lovely experience. Felt like a king getting shagged by 5 PYT, Only drawback was I didn't get to touch any boobs / ass. Basically I did not see skin and was only given a hand job albeit by 5 different girls, after 15 min of heavenly bliss, I finally came and thanked them and left for Sannur my stay for 3 more days.

Rookie mistake was not to confirm what I am paying for. Had I been clear that I am paying 400 k for a pop, I could have nailed one. Instead I was had to get satisfied only with hand job.

Damage - 400 K for hand job.If your getting a higher exchange rate you are going to the street vendors that always advertise a higher rate but rip you off. They are similar to the guy on the street in most major cities that uses cards or walnuts and bets you can't find the pea.

Quick change artists. Be sure to count your money after they finish and give to back to you.

RL.

[Robert Long]

Dear brothers,

I'm travelling to Bali this month end, Need your help with trusted and tried contacts for FS in Bali. I searched in Backpage and Locanto and little skeptical to trust those days. So seeking fellow mongers valuable help with contacts. Please do PM the contacts. It would be really helpful.RTFF. There is not trusted contacts in Bali. Everything changes constantly. People come and go. They change location and island. The taxi drivers are the best source for getting laid without getting fucked.

RL.

[Wimble]

If your getting a higher exchange rate you are going to the street vendors that always advertise a higher rate but rip you off. They are similar to the guy on the street in most major cities that uses cards or walnuts and bets you can't find the pea.

Quick change artists. Be sure to count your money after they finish and give to back to you.

RL.Really not worth the hassle or risk. Over the years have tried several times by showing my money and ask them to count out theirs, put in on the counter, take a step back and put their hands in their pockets. No takers at most places so no exchange. Only a couple restaurants were willing to do it.

[Eszpresszo]

The taxi drivers are the best source for getting laid without getting fucked.

RL.That is actually some very helpful advice there. In many places (if not most), taxi drivers are the last people you would want to trust on those matters.

[Franga]

Really not worth the hassle or risk. Over the years have tried several times by showing my money and ask them to count out theirs, put in on the counter, take a step back and put their hands in their pockets. No takers at most places so no exchange. Only a couple restaurants were willing to do it.Yes, anyone offering above market rate exchange are ripoffs. They are all over Kuta with their "Authorised Exchange" signs. Some rates I saw offered were 5% above market rates. Avoid all exchange places offering these types of rates as they are all short change artists. All have a sidekick who will stand next to you and talk and distract you while the dealer removes a few 100 k Rupiah notes before you accept it and take off. You cannot win at these places. Either they win, or they don't transact. Those are the only two possible outcomes. Do your research on the internet on where to find a trusted exchange place in Kuta. Its amazing that the stupid tourist board doesn't do something to fix this problem, and protect tourists. Indonesia is one phucked up country. And don't even get me started on the taxi drivers.

[HomunCulus820]

Hey guys,

I've been lurking for a year now and finally planning a month tour through SEA. Singapore, Bali, Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand, HK. Looking forward to contributing some solid intel on here for a change.

I've been RTFF here for many pages with no answer to this question, so here goes: Is it ever feasible to do to-go orders from Sanur X for LT? Or is that just generally prohibited / ill-advised?

I originally booked a 2-night stay at a Sanur hotel for convenience but after learning there's not much else to do in Sanur (for a young bachelor), I'm considering switching to another part of the island.

[Ashish80]

Went to Bali last month. The place was quite slow and dry. I personally did not find Bali a attractive place in comparison with Thailand.

It is tough to find good meat there and where it is available it is very expensive. First night went to star Bugar hopeless place had fishbowl setup and very tough to see the girls managed one and had to pay whooping 1 million rupiahs for hopeless service.

Next day went to river view nice setup expensive but nice service. 1.2 million rupiah but worth looking at the facilities. The chick was nice and claimed to be a DJ. Had tattoos to which were good.

Overall Bali is very slow.

[Roger Sideways]

Went to Bali last month. The place was quite slow and dry. I personally did not find Bali a attractive place in comparison with Thailand.

It is tough to find good meat there and where it is available it is very expensive. First night went to star Bugar hopeless place had fishbowl setup and very tough to see the girls managed one and had to pay whooping 1 million rupiahs for hopeless service.

Next day went to river view nice setup expensive but nice service. 1.2 million rupiah but worth looking at the facilities. The chick was nice and claimed to be a DJ. Had tattoos to which were good.

Overall Bali is very slow.And to think, if you had just taken the time to RTFF, perhaps ask for some local advice, you could have had a much better time for a quarter of the price.

The papasan at Star Bugar must have loved you if you paid 1 million there for just one girl. LOL.

1 km up the road at Salon Mawar you could have had an enthusiastic threesome with two lovelies for 600 k.

Or 200 k for a fresh young thing in a fishbowl in Sanur.

Bali is not slow. But maybe we cannot say the same about some of the tourists who come here.

[Roger Sideways]

I've been RTFF here for many pages with no answer to this question, so here goes: Is it ever feasible to do to-go orders from Sanur X for LT? Or is that just generally prohibited / ill-advised?
You can negotiate LT with the papasan. No problem. Most girls will be available.

Another strategy that works well in Sanur is to have a massage in a regular massage place. Mention that you are there on your own. At least 2/3 times the girl will offer to come to your room later. Or she will offer her friend. Or both.

And in those situations the cost will usually be the lovely words "up to you".

[HomunCulus820]

You can negotiate LT with the papasan. No problem. Most girls will be available.

Another strategy that works well in Sanur is to have a massage in a regular massage place. Mention that you are there on your own. At least 2/3 times the girl will offer to come to your room later. Or she will offer her friend. Or both.

And in those situations the cost will usually be the lovely words "up to you".Genius! Thanks for the input. I'll definitely try that out and report. Call me weird but I generally don't mind TOFT if the price isn't too steep and there's no major safety risk. And the massage strategy seems like the perfect situation to experiment.

I actually opted for Seminyak over Sanur (not looking to monger the whole trip), but maybe I'll switch it up for a night and stay in Sanur to try this out.

[Roger Sideways]

Genius! Thanks for the input. I'll definitely try that out and report. Call me weird but I generally don't mind TOFT if the price isn't too steep and there's no major safety risk. And the massage strategy seems like the perfect situation to experiment.

I actually opted for Seminyak over Sanur (not looking to monger the whole trip), but maybe I'll switch it up for a night and stay in Sanur to try this out.There is plenty of action in Seminyak, but keep in mind it is also the centre of ladyboy activity in Bali. So unless you are into that option check carefully what you are getting.

I had a girl the other day who was offended by the question 'wanita or waria?' But that's rare. Most girls, especially in the Seminyak area, would get the same question every day.

Have fun.

[Captainb]

1 km up the road at Salon Mawar you could have had an enthusiastic threesome with two lovelies for 600 k
Went to the Mawar Salon today.

Took a girl named "Baby".

She asked for 350000 but when I complained she asked what I was willing to pay?

I agreed to the 350000.

She's a nice girl with a smooth and flawless body. Titties are small and a bit soft.

I liked her and the sex with her very much.

BBBJ was not the best but OK.

Enthusistic DFK's.

The pussy tasted good while DATY. She did not like it long time because she didn't like to come.

Pussy was dripping wet after DATY, so no need for additional lubrication.

Fucking in various positions and in missio she took my dick very deep while giving DFK's again.

CIM after I promised her to give good tip.

Yeaaaa.

I liked it.

WIR? Yes 100%.

I gave a really good tip.

Captain be.

[Kodja]

I paid a visit here the other week around 1:00 PM was met enthusiastically at the door but about 4 ladies. I was told to negotiate price in the room only so I chose a girl that I thought was the best on offer and once in the room she wanted Rp500 K. She said that included all services massage, BJ, FS and the room cost. I haven't been to Angels for a few years and thought the price was a little steep as I had been in Sanur the week before and Rp200 K was the asking price there in the X houses.

The girl worked out to be really good in the end. Her name was Lia from Java. I haggled for Rp400 K and that's what I ended up paying. Did I pay over market value? I left a happy lad anyway.

[Roger Sideways]

I paid a visit here the other week around 1:00 PM was met enthusiastically at the door but about 4 ladies. I was told to negotiate price in the room only so I chose a girl that I thought was the best on offer and once in the room she wanted Rp500 K. She said that included all services massage, BJ, FS and the room cost. I haven't been to Angels for a few years and thought the price was a little steep as I had been in Sanur the week before and Rp200 K was the asking price there in the X houses.

The girl worked out to be really good in the end. Her name was Lia from Java. I haggled for Rp400 K and that's what I ended up paying. Did I pay over market value? I left a happy lad anyway.Close. I paid 350 on my last visit to Angel. But I find the girls next door at Mawar more friendly and slightly cheaper. There I pay a flat 300 k per girl, and usually take two.

[Spider916]

Are you sure it was really Zuueva?

She must make 1000's of dollars in Russia or the Uae.


Have been keeping an eye on the Bali back-page which has a number of FL advertising on there as has been mentioned here many times. Ranging from nice Indos at 1 jt / HR to high class European escorts at 5 jt and up.

I've contacted a few of them on whatsapp to get the menu and prices, but nothing has really peaked my interest. Maybe I'd like to spend a little time nestled up to Pearl's massive titties, but haven't gone there yet as she is expensive.

There is however one Euro girl that just popped up however that peeked my attention; working name is 'Sveta'. However I know her modelling name as Ekaterina Zuueva.

Her instagram is 'Zuueva' or 'Zuuevalife'. Just check out those pics.

This is one piece of ass I would pay handsomely to take out for wine, dine and 69.

She's in Bali for 14 days, which doesn't line up with my dates. However if you have the cash to splash, I would love to read a report on that adventure!

[Flyer98]

Hello,

I am making a first trip to Bali in September. I am a little older, so non-stop mongering is no longer my thing. Something that I have done in Thailand in recent years is to go through a dating site and meet a MILF for companionship that way. In Thailand there are a fair number of FLs on these sites, if you know how to spot them. I was wondering if anyone was aware of a corresponding site for Indonesia and particularly for Bali.

[Roger Sideways]

Hello,

I am making a first trip to Bali in September. I am a little older, so non-stop mongering is no longer my thing. Something that I have done in Thailand in recent years is to go through a dating site and meet a MILF for companionship that way. In Thailand there are a fair number of FLs on these sites, if you know how to spot them. I was wondering if anyone was aware of a corresponding site for Indonesia and particularly for Bali.Indonesian Cupid.

You can't go wrong there.

Best of luck!

[AMG222]

Quick Note about those two massage places.

New management, a lot of Chinese in waiting room and new price of 1.5 M.

This is getting really expensive.

[Spectre42]

Hi guys,

Just off to my fourth trip to Bali, but need a little more advise please.

Last time I was there, I hooked up on Cupid with a bird of 41. Not bad looking, and an absolute legend in the sack. Couldn't get enough.

Anyway, since I've been back home, past few weeks she's become difficult. And since that time, I've met 2 others, one 31, the other 27, neither of whom have any issues. They all know when I get back to Bali (29th) but don't know my flight.

So, my question is, should I bother with the 41 year old? She's given me some grief the last few weeks, and has a bit of an ego. Do Indo girls reach a stage where they feel "left on the shelf"? She wants me to bring her to Aus, but no way is that.

Going to happen. LOL. Shall I give the older one the push? What would you guys do? Maybe I should just ignore them all and stay by myself in Kuta?

Thanks for all advice.

[AMG222]

So this is my first review on ISG so please be easy on me.

Over the past 2 weeks, I've visited 3 times River View Spa & Lounge.

Round 1:

When everything is new to you, you always have this feeling.

The place is very clean, next to a river (a really small one). Once you get in, you are given the choice between 90 min for 1.2 M with one girl or 2 hours with 2 girls for 2.5 M. I know this price seems really expensive for Bali but you get for this price a good quality place and a big choice of girls.

Once you agree on what you settle for (I always choose 1 girl at a time), you have a line-up of girls. I think there was between 15 & 20, with most of them being 7/10 or 8/10, and one or two 9/10) . I forgot the name if the girl I chose the first time. She was cute with large breasts. Once you chose the girl, you got back to the reception & pay. I like this as you don't pay before you see the girls. After giving my 12 red notes, you meet the girl up stairs in a really nice and big room. You are offered a soft drink and a fruit plate.

The lady starrs to undress and start filling the huge jacuzzi (it will take the full hour to fill it up). After a quick shower you face down on the bed and the lady starts a quite good massage. She then add cream (no oil & this is much better) that is a bit cold but warms up with strokes.

She then pour some cream on her breasts and starts a body to body massage that was really nice. The game then continues with covered BJ and FS.

You then can enter the jacuzzi and relaxed with the therapist in the bath while she clean every part of you.

Round 2:

Same scenario and I chose in the line-up of maybe 25 girls the girl with name *Jee*. Unfortunately not a great choice. Massage was fast forward and the was rushing. Sex was good but she did everything to make me cum ASAP. I was disappointed and decided to try other places.

Round 3:

Came back to River View Spa & Lounge because other places were more expensive and did not inspire me quality. I decided to look closely at the line-up this time to make sure I don't do any mistake. I chose a Bali girl with name I forgot. She was cute and all but had a cold and was sniffing every 20 seconds. When she started massage, she rushed so quickly and did it so bad that I stopped her and told her she could not continue & ask her to check with manager for another girl. After a few min, manager knock and told me a new line-up was ready for me outside the room. I redressed up, chose a new girl by the name of Stacy from Jakarta who happened to be a real gem.

I was so happy I tipped her 300 K.

For conclusion, it is a really nice place. You just have to be lucky on who you get.

[Offshore Swell]

Hi guys,

Just off to my fourth trip to Bali, but need a little more advise please.

Last time I was there, I hooked up on Cupid with a bird of 41. Not bad looking, and an absolute legend in the sack. Couldn't get enough.

Anyway, since I've been back home, past few weeks she's become difficult. And since that time, I've met 2 others, one 31, the other 27, neither of whom have any issues. They all know when I get back to Bali (29th) but don't know my flight.

So, my question is, should I bother with the 41 year old? She's given me some grief the last few weeks, and has a bit of an ego. Do Indo girls reach a stage where they feel "left on the shelf"? She wants me to bring her to Aus, but no way is that.

Going to happen. LOL. Shall I give the older one the push? What would you guys do? Maybe I should just ignore them all and stay by myself in Kuta?

Thanks for all advice.Whether women like it or not. Sex is, has been, and probably for quite a while to come, can be a commercial transaction. Particularly in Indonesia. Your lady friend, at 41 may have identified you as a finishing line. Succesfull mongering is always about managing expectations, just like management of any group of people. And the maxim that rings so true is that you didn't pay them to have sex. You paid them to go away afterwards. You don't need to be brutal with that message but it is important to manage expectations. And probably fairer to these ladies too.

Hope that helps.

OS.

[Grrrr]

Contacted "Bella" from Bali Backpage and was quoted 3 million rup for short time. As you can see from the pics she is very cute but 3 M is outrageous in my view. Somebody must be paying it because she's not up for any negotiations.

On the upside, I went to La Favella the other night and wouldn't have been in there for 10 minutes before I walked out with a very young and hot African girl. African girls are certainly not what I'm usually into although I do have some experiences with them. This girl, Pauline, was very good looking with an exceptional body and after a slow start she was really passionate in bed. Cost 1. 5 M rup for 2. 5 hours and 2 shots.

[Robert Long]

Whether women like it or not. Sex is, has been, and probably for quite a while to come, can be a commercial transaction. Particularly in Indonesia. Your lady friend, at 41 may have identified you as a finishing line. Succesfull mongering is always about managing expectations, just like management of any group of people. And the maxim that rings so true is that you didn't pay them to have sex. You paid them to go away afterwards. You don't need to be brutal with that message but it is important to manage expectations. And probably fairer to these ladies too.

Hope that helps.

OS.Cut the presser loose. The 41 is hoping for meal ticket and has her eyes on you. Let it go and move on. OS advice is right on. Move on to greener pastures.

RL.

[Spectre42]

Thanks for all of the advice guys, I only realized that I had answered my own question as I submitted my post. LOL.

Off again this Saturday for five days, will be staying at Hotel Neo+ in Kuta. Can anybody recommend me a place for girls in Kuta where the prices will not be in the millions?

Thanks again, I appreciate all of the help.

[AffMat]

There now not out and about looking but I can say there aren't many tourist about and the massage parlors seem packed with cute girls so I would guess buyer's market.

[AffMat]

Just left Sanur I visited 18 and 41 x the current batch of girls are pretty good looking. I had an great time at 41 x with where they brought in two slim young ladies to choose from both very acceptable and of much better standard than I've experienced elsewhere. Price at 18 was 250 k just handed the money. 41 x was told 300 k for new girls. Off elsewhere now enjoying freebie (you always pay in other ways).

[Gorgon]

The previous reports by Avoloz and Aussie Fella have been revisited and I agree with both reports. Don't mention the internet though, Julia is not thrilled with being mentioned.

#5170 , #5173.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?962-Bali&p=1990694&viewfull=1#post1990694 http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?962-Bali&p=1989419&viewfull=1#post1989419.

[Smoothy]

Don't mention the internet thoughWhy in the hell would any monger on this forum ever mention to any girl that they read about them here on the internet? I would hope that nobody is doing that.

[Gorgon]

Why in the hell would any monger on this forum ever mention to any girl that they read about them here on the internet? I would hope that nobody is doing that.I casually said "private internet friend" as she knows it's unlikely you just find her place by chance. She started on a rant about a blog by some guy just to be sure.

[Kodja]

Why in the hell would any monger on this forum ever mention to any girl that they read about them here on the internet? I would hope that nobody is doing that.Speechless!

[Smoothy]

I casually said "private internet friend" as she knows it's unlikely you just find her place by chance. She started on a rant about a blog by some guy just to be sure.I would just say a guy I met at the hotel told me about the place. These girls are terrified by the word "internet".

[Metso]

So this is my first review on ISG so please be easy on me.

Over the past 2 weeks, I've visited 3 times River View Spa & Lounge.

Round 1:

When everything is new to you, you always have this feeling.

The place is very clean, next to a river (a really small one). Once you get in, you are given the choice between 90 min for 1.2 M with one girl or 2 hours with 2 girls for 2.5 M. I know this price seems really expensive for Bali but you get for this price a good quality place and a big choice of girls.

Once you agree on what you settle for (I always choose 1 girl at a time), you have a line-up of girls. I think there was between 15 & 20, with most of them being 7/10 or 8/10, and one or two 9/10) . I forgot the name if the girl I chose the first time. She was cute with large breasts. Once you chose the girl, you got back to the reception & pay. I like this as you don't pay before you see the girls. After giving my 12 red notes, you meet the girl up stairs in a really nice and big room. You are offered a soft drink and a fruit plate.

The lady starrs to undress and start filling the huge jacuzzi (it will take the full hour to fill it up). After a quick shower you face down on the bed and the lady starts a quite good massage. She then add cream (no oil & this is much better) that is a bit cold but warms up with strokes..Was the girl flexible enough so you could do DFK or DATY etc.

[darklurker]

Would love to try Thailand one day, and trying to avoid Phils visa stamp in my passport so people don't think I am a sex tourist ha ha!. But please enjoy those places very much for me.Who really looks at the inside of your passport other than the guy in customs? Do you care what they think? IMHO They will let you into the country anyway.

Don't miss out on fun things in life because of what people think is what I'm trying to say.

[Metso]

All,

I have RTFF for quite some days and have gone up to page 105, no more to read as the information keeps getting too old. So I will start PM'ing now to seniors whom I have noted down.

Summarizing the take away from the Forum, recently tested and tried spa's in Kuta are River view spa and Onasis Spa which have a fixed price of 1. 2 Mil. May try both of these and post report. I will be in Kuta for 2 days. I did read tried cheaper Spa but it seems you need bargaining skills which I am terrible at. But do let me know if I have missed something near Kuta here. Planning one evening visit to Jimbaran Bay, will try to check out the local SPA's there but nothing seems to be promising might do some window shopping there.

Next 2 days in Sannur, dedicated to the Xxbuildings- Looks like collections are mainly available from 5 PM to 1 AM, will plan to visit by 7 or 8 PM, 39, 41 is mostly spoken so will be on top of the list and others will also be visited. Some information say these xx houses has only fan, but some I have seen having A/C. Will check briefly with the seniors.

Do PM me if you would like to join me in any of these visits, will be happy to meet.

Cheers,

Metso.

[Eszpresszo]

Who really looks at the inside of your passport other than the guy in customs? Do you care what they think? IMHO They will let you into the country anyway.

Don't miss out on fun things in life because of what people think is what I'm trying to say.Agreed. When I told people I was going to Medellin, they looked at me like I had a death wish or I was a drug trafficker. Now, I can tell them about the superb year-round weather, visits to the country, different architecture and landmarks, interesting people, and the best coffee in the world. After visiting the Dominican Republic, I could show them photos of the Colonial Zone of Santo Domingo, beautiful beaches, and lovely villas. My facebook page is plastered with a mural of the ruins of old Sukhothai. The only downside is now my sister wants me to take her along, as well as some other local chicks who want me to take them to Thailand (not going to happen!

The only thing I don't do is go to the same place twice in a row, for my family's sake. The last time I did that I ended up importing my ex-wife. That would probably cause my mom some needless concern if I returned to the same destination in such short period of time (my folks have traveled abroad a bit and have never gone to the same place twice).

[AffMat]

All,

Some information say these xx houses has only fan, but some I have seen having A/C. Will check briefly with the seniors.


Metso.18 shares rooms with a the others in the street fan only no A / C same as 41 no A / C but wasn't too hot in the evening when I was there.

[Calaretu]

Hi,

I will come to Bali next month and I want girls for fun.

[PaulAlbert]

So I thought I'd send a report of my latest trip to Bali, just got back tonight and had some good success. Sorry I'm bad with names so you'll have to forgive me. Went to Mawar Salon and had a nice little 25 year old for 350 k, full service massage, went to Angel 2 times also, same price, different girls, around the same ages, between 25-27, same good service. Then onto Sanur and had 2 different girls one a plain Bali housewife, next was Dede, had her 2 x and was fantastic service, each was 350 k per. Also had a decent massage with HJ at Tantangan for 200 k. All in all a solid trip with young fine Bali babes. Until next time Bali!

[Pedros Needs]

Hi,

I will come to Bali next month and I want girls for fun.Plenty of information on here if you spend a little time researching, or if you become a contributor I am sure you will get some good advise.

Pedro.

[Pita123]

So I thought I'd send a report of my latest trip to Bali, just got back tonight and had some good success. Sorry I'm bad with names so you'll have to forgive me. Went to Mawar Salon and had a nice little 25 year old for 350 k, full service massage, went to Angel 2 times also, same price, different girls, around the same ages, between 25-27, same good service. Then onto Sanur and had 2 different girls one a plain Bali housewife, next was Dede, had her 2 x and was fantastic service, each was 350 k per. Also had a decent massage with HJ at Tantangan for 200 k. All in all a solid trip with young fine Bali babes. Until next time Bali!Where / How did you find the housewife in Sanur and Dede there?

[PaulAlbert]

Where / How did you find the housewife in Sanur and Dede there?At 11 X the pimp got on his bike and brought them to the house within 15 minute.

[RokSon]

Hello,

Any info on the availability of a massage spa in the Ubud area which is similar to the RiverView Massage spa in Seminyak. I would be staying in Ubud for 5 days and would like super therapist with massages and extras. Have read good FRs of the RiverView. Any other massage spa in Ubud area would anyone suggest?

If I rent out a Villa, can I get an escort in for a few hours? 1 a day.

Thanks bros.

[Roger Sideways]

Hello,

Any info on the availability of a massage spa in the Ubud area which is similar to the RiverView Massage spa in Seminyak. I would be staying in Ubud for 5 days and would like super therapist with massages and extras. Have read good FRs of the RiverView. Any other massage spa in Ubud area would anyone suggest?

If I rent out a Villa, can I get an escort in for a few hours? 1 a day.

Thanks bros.Sadly, Ubud is not monger friendly at all. I was there for four days recently and despite working the apps and asking the question in massage places, not a thing. I did get one nice massage in my room but it was strictly just massage. On my last day I had one girl from wechat offer more (she was up from Kuta and waiting for her friend) but the timing didn't work out. If you look back over this forum you will see that the prevailing wisdom is resign yourself to a few days of celibacy, or get take-out from an x house in Sanur to keep you company for a few days.

[Roger Sideways]

Had a pleasant encounter yesterday via Badoo. Made friends in the usual way, asked about meeting up, and then suggested a threesome. Could she bring a sexy friend? All no problem, the friend and the girl I was chatting were both lovely and very accommodating. CBJ was my only slight disappointment. DATY was delicious. 300 k for each lady plus 100 k for a short time room in Sanur.

Much better than paying 2 million or more off backpage.

[Metso]

So I thought I'd send a report of my latest trip to Bali, just got back tonight and had some good success. Sorry I'm bad with names so you'll have to forgive me. Went to Mawar Salon and had a nice little 25 year old for 350 k, full service massage, went to Angel 2 times also, same price, different girls, around the same ages, between 25-27, same good service. Then onto Sanur and had 2 different girls one a plain Bali housewife, next was Dede, had her 2 x and was fantastic service, each was 350 k per. Also had a decent massage with HJ at Tantangan for 200 k. All in all a solid trip with young fine Bali babes. Until next time Bali!Do share some pointers.

[Kodja]

Do share some pointers.Located a building apart from Mawar at the large roundabout close to the Ball Galleria shopping Mall in Kuta.

[Pita123]

Went to 10 x last night around midnight. Within 3 minutes he brought a spinner from Bandung. 400 including room and girl. Place was serious dump. Now shower head even. She had a killer body, be-cups, but no BJ or DATY and more than a second of sucking her nipples made her uncomfortable.

Maybe it was the lateness of the hour? Is this really a daytime sport in Bali?

[HomunCulus820]

Hey guys,

After avoiding options in Singapore I landed in Bali on Saturday. Stayed in Sanur around the X houses, which in hindsight was a mistake seeing as how the more touristy east coast area of Sanur has better food, more massage places, and better nightlife.

Before going into reports, let me just say that Grab is your friend on this island. Instead of renting a scooter (though I may do this later to explore the island), I just ordered a Grab bike and got all around Sanur for 30 cents a ride. More importantly, I've saved tons of cash and headaches dealing with stupid transport touts at the airport and around the island. So annoying the way they honk and ask if we're interested in massage boom boom. I got to Kuta from Sanur for around $1.60. So remember, when you get to the airport, bypass those guys and walk straight out through the alleys and you'll end up on a main road where you can call a Grab car / taxi (since you'll need it for luggage). Uber works too. Gojek surprisingly isn't too reliable. And then Grab bike your way around if you'd rather not rent a scooter.

After arriving around 9 pm and settling in I walked around Sanur, visiting the fishbowls down the Circle K alley. Saw some 7's but I hesitated to jump right in. The experience was a bit jarring for me. There were around a dozen Balinese guys at each location looking into the glass, and the girls hardly seem enthusiastic about being picked (not just by me but in general). Some are smoking and others are on their phones or singing karaoke. I decided to go down the street to 11 B and 3 B. Both were less populated -- both girls and mongers. At 11 B, I made the mistake of asking the guy there to show me some other options of girls. He had me hop on his scooter with him and as he brought me around (back to the fishbowls haha), it struck me that he's going to get commission out of this.

After taking me to another house I didn't know about (forgot the number), I saw a 7 with nice assets (tall, be cups). Later learned she's a 27 year old girl from Jakarta. The guy brought me back to 11 B and showed me to a dirty, dingy room with a fan, and then went to go pick her up. Guys, I thought I knew what I was getting myself into but these rooms really are dumps. Get ready to go home and shower twice. He comes back with her and asks for 500 k (WTF) to which I state 250. He counters with 300 and since I know he's getting a bit of commission I concede since that's literally less than $4.

Anyway, long story short, girl does a rush job, giving a 30 sec BJ and asking, "Okay?" every 10 seconds. Then mounts me for 15 seconds and asks me to get on top. At around the 4 min. Mark she asks me to cum, which if I could cum on demand I would because sometimes I tend to last longer than I'd like. So nope, I don't cum for about 20 min. Or so and not after going through several positions. She's pissed which I totally understand because she's probably used to short sessions.

All in all, could I have had a better night? Maybe. But luck is a major factor, as well as keeping your cool under pressure and knowing when to say no to the hosts (and to your little man).

SIDEBAR: The next day I wandered Danau Poso and Tamblingan getting massages and eating cheap food. After two legit massages with no real connection made (and also some crappy massages since this industry is so saturated), I ended up at Chloe Spa off Tamblingan. I've heard good things about this place. Got a 1 HR full body massage from Keszia. GUYS. Sometimes you gotta take a break from mongering and enjoy a real massage (esp if you can get it for $6). Keszia gave me the best massage of my life, no joke. I wasn't even attracted to her but with the way she massaged me with her small hands, if she offered plus I would've paid for it and kept my eyes closed (not plus plus though haha).

Later on, I took a Grab bike out to Salmon Mawar. About five girls there and none caught my eye (they're a bit older), so I walked over to Angel. Saw a stunner and chose her immediately. I forgot her name (sorry guys), but mainly because she looked like a girl I knew back home so of course in my mind her name is Michelle (anyone else here do this? And yeah, Angel's rooms are dumps as well. After she brings me to one room, I request another and it's a little better but still pretty bad. Then begins the upsell: 500 k. I counter with 300 k which I know is standard at Mawar. She returns with 400 k and cites the room upgrade. I concede because I know Angel charges more and plus it's only $7.50 extra. Sorry to you regulars but there's a limit to how cheap I'm going to be since this is their livelihood.

"Michelle" is 22 years old, average height and skinny fat with be cups and a bubble butt. Hit it from behind and had a much better experience than the day before. I lasted long again of course (because dammit I forgot to bring my Sagami condoms). She kept saying, "Money tips, okay?" but in a playful manner so it didn't kill the mood. I teased her throughout and in between positions noticed she creamed several times. At the end she asked for an extra 100 k because I made her work hard, but I resisted (aren't you glad? I just gave her some extra change to keep her from pushing (10 k, which later I remembered is only 75 cents; whoops. Kinda an insult). She took it and said thanks, because at the end of the day it's a business and sometimes you win sometimes you lose.

All in all, my first impressions of Bali are not too different from other reports here. I don't think my perspective will apply to everyone, but all of us are different and so for some of you who prefer more sanitary environments (E. G. I've been spoiled by K-spas), be sure to keep your expectations low.

Headed to Seminyak today where I plan to do more barhopping and general nightlife. Maybe I'll report later if anything happens.

[Kodja]

Hey guys,

After avoiding options in Singapore I landed in Bali on Saturday. Stayed in Sanur around the X houses, which in hindsight was a mistake seeing as how the more touristy east coast area of Sanur has better food, more massage places, and better nightlife.I'm not sure I know what you mean about Sanur having better night life. What kind of night life do you mean and what are you comparing it to?

[HomunCulus820]

I'm not sure I know what you mean about Sanur having better night life. What kind of night life do you mean and what are you comparing it to?East coast Sanur off Tamblingan < Sanur X area off the west side of Danau Poso. It's no Kuta shitshow but beach bars, cafes, etc. Are nice to have at a stones throw.

Update: In Seminyak now, an overpriced tourist trap (everything, not just women). Perhaps I'm just spoiled by cheap prices I've gotten elsewhere in SEA. Wish there was a Thermae-like bar here.

[HomunCulus820]

Guys,

I finally found it. A happy ending AMP in Ubud. JK. I didn't try and don't plan to. I just arrived in Ubud for a 2-day celibacy retreat before heading to Canggu for Old Mans which I've heard has some nice FL action.

Yesterday I finally rented a scooter in Seminyak for the remainder of my Bali tour. I've had experience riding in Chiang Mai and was warned that Bali is more challenging, but it really isn't as long as you play it safe and know when to pass and when not to pass. There are also less traffic lights and so at intersections you got to feel out when to turn, merge, etc. Anyway.

Rode to Maharani for the 450 k snake massage after reading a little about it on this forum. I love nuru and look to experience it every chance I get. Turns it it wasn't nuru, but more on that later.

When you go to Maharani, you won't see it right away. There's a parking lot in the adjacent building on the right where there's a grocery store and convenient access to an air-conditioned ATM. I saw lots of expats / tourists at this grocery store so I'm guessing it has imported western items. Back at the address where Maharani is listed, you have to go around to the back of the building (where I should've parked!) and Maharani is the first door of two on the left.

The attendant lists out the services, two of which I remember: Snake massage for 450 k and then Kama Sutra for 1 m (I think). I choose snake massage and he directs me to a window and pulls back a curtain to a small fishbowl with about 10 girls. I choose Nikita, a young and pretty 8 who unfortunately knows it. She also has RBF, but I couldn't resist that banging body. Plus I tend to be drawn toward the challenge of sexing hot mean girls. Attendant directs me to my room and after a few moments in walks Nikita.

Long story short (because this is the second time I'm writing this due to the login timeout): Snake massage is nothing more than rubbing lotion on her tits and sliding up and down your back for 30 seconds before offering to "make love" for 700 k extra. After some playful but firm negotiating I bring it down to 400 k, so my overall tab came out to 950 k. Oh well. YOLO in Bali. Turns out I'm the one who gave her the real snake massage Of course she tries her best but being the pretty princess she is, she's not a good lay and I couldn't help but compare her to my girl from the day before at Angel.

After our session we go in the shower and she escorts me to the front desk, mumbling something to the attendant (probably that she only got 400 k more out of me).

BTW, compared to my visit to Angel and Sanur X, Maharani is way cleaner (for those of you who really care about that). In the end you get what you pay for in my opinion.

[Titleist19]

Appreciate all the feedback this forum has given, so it's time to give back. Spent a week in Sanur in mid May and had a great time with the X houses and fishbowls. I did not get a chance to visit all of them, but will give my thoughts on the ones I did get to see. To preface, for those who have never been to Sanur, it is a rather small and quiet beach town east of Denpasar, where there are more family and couples vacationers than anything else. Jl Danau Poso, a 2-3 km stretch, is where you can find most of the fishbowls and X houses and there's also lots of bars and restaurants. Jl Danau Tambligan (intersects Danau Poso at the roundabout) also has a decent stretch of restaurants. I really recommend renting a bicycle or scooter, it's not a big town, but it's damn hot and makes getting around a lot easier. There are taxis around, but minimum charge (at least for bluebird is 30 k). I rented a bicycle for 30 k per day, and stayed on Danau Poso and at first was hesitant to leave the bike outside of restaurants, bars, and fishbowls, but it was always there when I got back. They gave me a bike lock, but there isn't exactly a lot of things to anchor your bike to. That or use Grab motorcycles, they are dirt cheap. After reading the prices in Kuta, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me paying 5 x the cost versus Sanur, although I'm sure some of the Kuta club girls are classier. Fishbowl girls are certainly from poorer backgrounds, but there were some stunning girls and I can be a harsh judge on talent. That said, a week in Sanur is probably the most I can handle as it can get quite boring and I'the estimate there are probably between 150-200 at all the fishbowls combined and that number might be generous.

Summary of fishbowls and X houses:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?962-Bali&p=1819671#post1819671.

Bali Monger Map: Credit to user Barri, a really incredible resource.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?962-Bali&p=1388625&viewfull=1#post1388625.

Fishbowls:

18: The first of 3 fishbowls (18, 66 X, 67 X) near the circle K on Danau Poso. There were few girls here each time I went, but more at night. If you take a girl from here, they'll bring you to 67 X, which is a very short walk north, as they have ST rooms.

66 X: Has a large fishbowl, but very few girls, more at night which is a common occurrence. Again, taking a girl here means you'll use the ST rooms at 67 X.

67 X: small fishbowl, but was packed with about 20 or so girls at night. There were quite a few lookers, all young, slim, very likely some young moms in there but I found the selection quite good. There are quite a few pimps at 18,66 x, 67 x. They were not hostile to foreigners but act like you know what you are doing. Prices quoted to foreigners 300 k for ST.

3 b: The most popular fishbowl, not large, but there were about 40 or so tight bodies packed into the room. The fishbowl window is small so it is tough to get a good look, but they do keep the door open as well. There were 3 or 4 rows. I ran into a Japanese monger outside of the place and we decided to check things out together. We presumed that the newer girls were seated in the front row and the older girls at the back, not necessarily in age, but to the scene. There were about 12 pimps, about 11 too many, and I'm not a fan of going through the middlemen, quite pushy, but hold your ground and you'll be fine. Took a girl from here, their rooms are pretty horrid and scummy, dirty sheets, although you get a towel and there's an in room bathroom with a hose and a bucket to wash down. She was terrible, lots of no this no that BS in the room. Took the 300 k on the chin and did not even waste a nut on her, told her to gtfo. Terrible session, and with so many girls available, damn shame. Japanese monger waited for me and we continued on our journey of visiting more fishbowls in the area. We traded stories of our tours in Columbia.

29 X: big fishbowl, about 10 girls. Papasan speaks Japanese, I could not pick up the entire conversation but did pick up a few things like BBBJ and no rushed sessions. A few cuties here but nothing really took my interest. While touring the fishbowls with my Japanese friend, they are treated with a bit more respect than other foreigners. I know this to be true in most of SE asia.

14 A: North of the passway, it's a bit of a walk and I likely would not have ventured here on my own. Fishbowl had about 15 girls, some were very cute. Because of the location, I can't see many bule coming here, but business is open.

11 be: large fishbowl, but with very few girls, quite a few on the thicker side.

505: only saw 4 girls here, none to my liking. I rode my bike into the place during the daytime, and the guys there were surprised, as in, who are you and what do you want LOL.

X houses:

The X houses do not have any line ups only ST rooms. Now why would anyone go to the X houses when you can just go to the fishbowls? Fishbowls don't get started until about 8 pm and so the X houses can come in handy for daytime action and I also found there are less pimps and willing to accept lower prices. I would commonly pay 250 k at X houses and 300 k at fishbowls for the same girl. You can also see the girls stand up and talk to them. At fishbowls they sit down and it's really difficult to get a get look at their figures. The X houses and fishbowls all operate together, they know each other, and the X house pimps will pull girls from fishbowls (at night) or from the girls' homes (daytime). You tell the papasans your preference and he will go off on his motorbike and bring them back. If you don't like them, tell them and they'll find another girl or just leave. It's a bit hit and miss, but I had some good success with the papasans that I developed a rapport with. If you had a session with a girl before, and know her name, just tell them to go get her. Rooms in pretty much all the fishbowls and X houses are half star smut shacks, but you can bring your girl back to your hotel room for ST, noted 2 to 3 hours max (same price), LT I'm sure is available but I'm unaware of the costs. For a 2 to 3 HR session with a hot young girl all for 250 k, I have not paid better prices in Asia. I did not go to too many X houses as I do believe that it is better to develop a rapport with the papasan, they will get to know your style and the recommendations become better, and they will appreciate the repeat business. They will also recommend newer girls that have just arrived from Java (or wherever), had a few brought to me that had apparently only been working a few weeks (believe whatever you want to believe) but this is the way locals are treated. Had a few conversations with local punters, they told me prices are generally 150 to 300 k depending if the girls are young, hot and new. So there probably is a foreigner tax, but it is small and reasonable imo. The papasans I'm sure take a healthy cut and so girls are doing sessions for what, like 10 to 15 bucks? And the girls in Kuta ask for 1 to 2 million? The pricing differences are absurd, particularly when it's 30 minutes of travel. I tipped each of the girls and they were all very thankful for a 50 k tip. Other than the 1 bad session, all the girls were really sweet, smiley and friendly. I really enjoy it more when the layer of fun is thicker than the layer of business.

41 X: Developed a relationship with the younger guy here, paid 300k for my first session here with a girl named Ora. 21, some baby damage, soft body, very pretty face, tiny little spinner, very low English. She had quite a bizarre personality as she couldn't stop playing with my belly button (an inny, but wtf LOL), but friendly and I had a good session with her. She was a bit submissive, not a starfish, but she let me have my way with her with no resistance, which is what I like. From then on, I paid 250 k, as I was passing by one night where it was probably slow and he countered with 250 k when I was with the Japanese monger (damn I got to hang onto this guy). One night I came, and papasan was there and the relationship I had built up with the other guy was no longer there. He brought me an apparent new girl, after I said no, he got really pissed off, cussing at me in Bahasa, and I walked out of the place and did not return. Pretty stupid if you ask me, there's tons of these X houses so if you don't want my business that's fine with me. I did not feel threatened as I remained polite, but it was something I really could've done without.

11 X: went during the day and there were only 2 guys and 4 or 5ST rooms that looked in better shape than 41 X, so 0.75 stars out of 5, if anyone is counting. We hit it off as I was joking around with him and he was ok with 250 k.

My best experience of the trip was via one of the X houses. Not going to give a name but, 19, Javanese, no baby damage, absolutely fantastic tight body, 19 inch waist, a tight a curvy bum, decent bee boobs, pretty face, great sloppy BBBJ, and willing to take a good pounding in multiple positions. It was so hot in the room (fan cooled) that I paused to take a break and chatted with her for a bit before resuming, was probably an hour and a half session. Did not feel rushed at all. Got her line. A few days later, she took the day off work (from one of the fishbowls) to come spend the night at my hotel. So it was really nice to not have to negotiate LT with one of the papasans. She arrived with no makeup and I thought it was a different girl! LOL. Some serious talent with the makeup brush. She still looked good but I had to inspect a few tattoos to confirm her identity LOL. Odd demeanor this time, would reject my advances, play with her phone, and generally act like she didn't want to be there, wtf. After 2 hours of this, I fell asleep with a raging hard on, woke up after an hour and finally got her to fool around and proceeded to stuff her like a thanksgiving turkey. When I came, she squeezed her pussy so tight and made sure to milk me for everything. It was a long built up nut and it was fantastic. She didn't sleep, and left in the morning while I was half asleep. Didn't ask for money and none given. In my mind, it's just better to pay and move on but she was out like lightning. Quite a strange but wonderful encounter.

[Cheech Chong]

Question. I am curious as to the girl / dating scene in Bali.

I'm late 50's, have done the Angeles City / Bangkok thing a lot just playing around. But. Never been to Bali. So, any advice would be appreciated. I've got a trip planned next April and trying to decide whether to stay for 3 days for a week, but not sure where to stay and where to go.

Any help or advice would be good.

[Robert Long]

Question. I am curious as to the girl / dating scene in Bali.

I'm late 50's, have done the Angeles City / Bangkok thing a lot just playing around. But. Never been to Bali. So, any advice would be appreciated. I've got a trip planned next April and trying to decide whether to stay for 3 days for a week, but not sure where to stay and where to go.

Any help or advice would be good.Sanur is the best city in Bali for relaxation. Great smaller hotels on the beach. Great restaurants and girls if you want them. Kuta is a shit hole, Ubud is a nice place to visit but not to stay. Sanur has it all. Great for walking the beach and walking the main road.

RL.

[Kodja]

Sanur is the best city in Bali for relaxation. Great smaller hotels on the beach. Great restaurants and girls if you want them. Kuta is a shit hole, Ubud is a nice place to visit but not to stay. Sanur has it all. Great for walking the beach and walking the main road.

RL.Totally agree with you about Kuta. I still like parts of Seminyak and Canggu but Sanur is the best place for relaxation and girls particularly if your age is past the 40's.

[Blacka0]

https://foursquare.com/v/angel-bali/515e930fe4b0fd9ec950971a?openPhotoId=5263b65e11d2d6de4c84280b

A few days ago I went tot Angels 2nd floor I was quoted 1.000.000 rp and I was really shocked because of this high price can somebody tell me If I have been scammed.

I met this young stunner Daisy. She has very nice boobs and a very small pussy.

She started with sucking it really good after this put her on her back and slammed that little pussy very nice.

It was a good session I gave her 100.000 rp tip and she was very happy.

The rooms have air conditioner and nice bathroom.

[Roger Sideways]

https://foursquare.com/v/angel-bali/515e930fe4b0fd9ec950971a?openPhotoId=5263b65e11d2d6de4c84280b

A few days ago I went tot Angels 2nd floor I was quoted 1.000.000 rp and I was really shocked because of this high price can somebody tell me If I have been scammed.

I met this young stunner Daisy. She has very nice boobs and a very small pussy.

She started with sucking it really good after this put her on her back and slammed that little pussy very nice.

It was a good session I gave her 100.000 rp tip and she was very happy.

The rooms have air conditioner and nice bathroom.Well, if you were happy then that's the main thing. But you could have had 3-5 girls (together or one at a time) elsewhere for the same money.

In the x houses of Sanur you can still get a satisfactory experience for 200,000. Did it myself last Tuesday.

Elsewhere in massage places that offer 'extras' you might be asked for 1 millon up front but you should be able to get service for 300,000 or 400,000 with a bit of hard bargaining.

Try Angels Salon and Mawar, both near the Dewa Ricci statue and not far from where you went. Some nice girls there who will do massage plus plus for 300 k or 400 k.

[Cheech Chong]

Totally agree with you about Kuta. I still like parts of Seminyak and Canggu but Sanur is the best place for relaxation and girls particularly if your age is past the 40's.Thanks for the advice. I've got myself reserved into the Hilton Garden Inn by the airport. Should I travel to Sanur and back or would it be better to just stay in Sanur? Any recommendation for a safe place to stay?

Thanks again!

[Robert Long]

Totally agree with you about Kuta. I still like parts of Seminyak and Canggu but Sanur is the best place for relaxation and girls particularly if your age is past the 40's.Yes it used to be nice over there. But the roads are bad and the traffic is terrible. To pricey and to many Euros. Not that there is anything wrong with them.

RL.

[RedTibetan23]

Well, if you were happy then that's the main thing. But you could have had 3-5 girls (together or one at a time) elsewhere for the same money.

In the x houses of Sanur you can still get a satisfactory experience for 200,000. Did it myself last Tuesday.

Elsewhere in massage places that offer 'extras' you might be asked for 1 millon up front but you should be able to get service for 300,000 or 400,000 with a bit of hard bargaining.

Try Angels Salon and Mawar, both near the Dewa Ricci statue and not far from where you went. Some nice girls there who will do massage plus plus for 300 k or 400 k.I've had a sudden change of plans with my trip to Bali in less than 2 days and no longer am staying with a (now ex-) friend who lives there and knows the scene. So now I'm scrambling a bit in a condensed period of time. Trying to decide between staying in Kuta and Sanur. At the top of my priority list is ease of spending time with girls (ease = walking from hotel, or maybe a short taxi ride). In Kuta, Angels and Mawar (300-350 k range) seem to be to go-to places and accessible. But Kuta not as nice. There seems to be a lot of x-houses and fishbowls in Sanur, at lower prices (200 k range). I am assuming an x-house is effectively a brothel. But her's my question. Are they mostly located in the same area? I ask because they seem to be referred to as 27 x, 41 x, etc. If so, can someone please provide a more specific area, as I can't seem to find that info (if I missed that RTFF, my apologies). And Is my general understanding accurate? Thanks in advance.

[Cheech Chong]

I've had a sudden change of plans with my trip to Bali in less than 2 days and no longer am staying with a (now ex-) friend who lives there and knows the scene. So now I'm scrambling a bit in a condensed period of time. Trying to decide between staying in Kuta and Sanur. At the top of my priority list is ease of spending time with girls (ease = walking from hotel, or maybe a short taxi ride). In Kuta, Angels and Mawar (300-350 k range) seem to be to go-to places and accessible. But Kuta not as nice. There seems to be a lot of x-houses and fishbowls in Sanur, at lower prices (200 k range). I am assuming an x-house is effectively a brothel. But here's my question. Are they mostly located in the same area? I ask because they seem to be referred to as 27 x, 41 x, etc. If so, can someone please provide a more specific area, as I can't seem to find that info (if I missed that RTFF, my apologies). And Is my general understanding accurate? Thanks in advance.I would also be interested in this, as well as a recommendation as to a safe place to stay. I. E, leave luggage in room, safe in room, etc. Maybe I'm asking a lot! Right now I am booked into the Hilton Garden Inn at the airport, but that is about 30 minutes away I think.

Thanks!

[Roger Sideways]

I've had a sudden change of plans with my trip to Bali in less than 2 days and no longer am staying with a (now ex-) friend who lives there and knows the scene. So now I'm scrambling a bit in a condensed period of time. Trying to decide between staying in Kuta and Sanur. At the top of my priority list is ease of spending time with girls (ease = walking from hotel, or maybe a short taxi ride). In Kuta, Angels and Mawar (300-350 k range) seem to be to go-to places and accessible. But Kuta not as nice. There seems to be a lot of x-houses and fishbowls in Sanur, at lower prices (200 k range). I am assuming an x-house is effectively a brothel. But her's my question. Are they mostly located in the same area? I ask because they seem to be referred to as 27 x, 41 x, etc. If so, can someone please provide a more specific area, as I can't seem to find that info (if I missed that RTFF, my apologies). And Is my general understanding accurate? Thanks in advance.That's about right. X houses are brothels. Some have fishbowls, others bring in a girl (usually from a fishbowl) to your specifications. 200 k for cheap and nasty (but often good fun) and never pay more than 500. Most of the x houses are on or near Jalan Danau Poso. There are cheap hotels right on the street, and the Mercure is very close by. Before I lived here I used to stay at the Mercure. Girl friendly, nice hotel, and a range of options within 5-10 minutes walk.

PM if you want to catch up for a drink while you are here.

[LifeIsABeach]

Thanks for the advice. I've got myself reserved into the Hilton Garden Inn by the airport. Should I travel to Sanur and back or would it be better to just stay in Sanur? Any recommendation for a safe place to stay? Thanks again!If you want some pussy in Sanur, then stay right in the action. Both Mercure and Taksu Sanur Hotel are very close to Sanur action. Walking distances. Mercure has music in the bar / lobby in the evening and Taksu does not. Look up Agoda for prices. You could spend half and half time between Sanur and Kuta. If you read back quite a few posts, you will find the X houses and fish bowels map. A few places missing, but most still there.

[Kodja]

Thanks for the advice. I've got myself reserved into the Hilton Garden Inn by the airport. Should I travel to Sanur and back or would it be better to just stay in Sanur? Any recommendation for a safe place to stay?

Thanks again!I like the Swis-Bel Batur Jimbar. It may be a scooter ride from the action but there are some good bars nearby. Closer to the action is The Art hotel or the others mentioned below.

[Kodja]

Yes it used to be nice over there. But the roads are bad and the traffic is terrible. To pricy and to many Euros. Not that there is anything wrong with them.

RL.I tend to avoid it on my scooter but it does annoy me during busy periods. I only ever go it to Kuta to visit Delta massage or sometimes Angel.

[Blacka0]

Please brothers for those who have never been in the x houses. These houses are mostly very simple don't expect luxurious beds and hot water and sometimes not even soap. I've been a lot in those houses. They perfect for cheap pussy and a quick fuck but that's it it just a warning for the brothers who never been to Sanur x houses. The girls on the other hand are quite nice and young and have tight pussies. If you want luxurious style rooms like Alexis in Jakarta style just go to Royal Palace Denpasar you pay 1.000.000 rp just for local pussy https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/1016726730/.

[RedTibetan23]

Please brothers for those who have never been in the x houses. These houses are mostly very simple don't expect luxurious beds and hot water and sometimes not even soap. I've been a lot in those houses. They perfect for cheap pussy and a quick fuck but that's it it just a warning for the brothers who never been to Sanur x houses. The girls on the other hand are quite nice and young and have tight pussies. If you want luxurious style rooms like Alexis in Jakarta style just go to Royal Palace Denpasar you pay 1.000.000 rp just for local pussy https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/1016726730/.Thanks and noted. I like to generally bounce between a more grungy atmosphere (especially if I can walk to it) and higher end (in this case, Royal Palace which seems like it needs more planning to head out to). Going to look for the map an earlier poster noted.

[LifeIsABeach]

Thanks and noted. I like to generally bounce between a more grungy atmosphere (especially if I can walk to it) and higher end (in this case, Royal Palace which seems like it needs more planning to head out to). Going to look for the map an earlier poster noted.Attached maps were produced by Barri, in 2010. Thanks to him. Some places not around but enough still around to play.

[Roger Sideways]

Attached maps were produced by Barri, in 2010. Thanks to him. Some places not around but enough still around to play.Some of those places are closed. Also 99 X is in the wrong place on the map. It is actually at the end of Jl Sudamala near the highway.

[Cheech Chong]

I've got to split a few days between Hong Kong and Bali.

It looks like the best place for me in Bali in Sanur, and I appreciate the comments! For those of you who have been both to Hong Kong and Bali, should I book any time at all to have fun in HKG or just maximize my time in Bali and forget HKG?

[Cheech Chong]

I'll be arriving late night into Bali. Actually a little after midnight into DPS airport. By the time I collect luggage, etc, it is going to be probably 1 or so. If I go directly to Sanur, is there going to be any action at all. Will there be bars open, girls around, etc? Suggestions and recommendations greatly appreciated! I could stay right at the airport I guess and head to Sanur in the morning. Just undecided and need some recommendations.

Thanks All.

[Blacka0]

I've got to split a few days between Hong Kong and Bali.

It looks like the best place for me in Bali in Sanur, and I appreciate the comments! For those of you who have been both to Hong Kong and Bali, should I book any time at all to have fun in HKG or just maximize my time in Bali and forget HKG?Why don't do both hey bro last week I was in HKG I stayed in Holiday Inn Express Hong Kong Monkok its location is very good within 5 minutes you are near the hooker street which you can recognize with the pink neons.

I was quoted 250 HK that's about 30 euro for ST https://singlemansparadise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/HK6_Brothel-Menu-e1468465912163-768x1024.jpg..

You can see the hookers sit outside and you can talk to the pappy, he will be happy to help you.

I fucked this you Chinese hooker named My Lee she was very nice with big boobs and small figure.

She sucked my dick very good and had a nice tight pussy. I came quite quickly in her.

But if you want cheap indo pussy just go to Sanur its cheap.

[Offshore Swell]

I'll be arriving late night into Bali. Actually a little after midnight into DPS airport. By the time I collect luggage, etc, it is going to be probably 1 or so. If I go directly to Sanur, is there going to be any action at all. Will there be bars open, girls around, etc? Suggestions and recommendations greatly appreciated! I could stay right at the airport I guess and head to Sanur in the morning. Just undecided and need some recommendations.

Thanks All.Not 100% sure but I think you will find action in Sanur untill 3 or 4 AM.

Hope that helps.

OS.

[Kodja]

Not 100% sure but I think you will find action in Sanur untill 3 or 4 AM.

Hope that helps.

OS.I hear many Aussies refer to Sanur as "Sa'nore" as in zzzzzzzzzzz.

They claim everything closes at 8:00 PM.

I know a bar or two that's open to about midnight.

[TimTimGuy]

I'll be arriving late night into Bali. Actually a little after midnight into DPS airport. By the time I collect luggage, etc, it is going to be probably 1 or so. If I go directly to Sanur, is there going to be any action at all. Will there be bars open, girls around, etc? Suggestions and recommendations greatly appreciated! I could stay right at the airport I guess and head to Sanur in the morning. Just undecided and need some recommendations. Thanks All.Hi Cheech. I haven't been to Bali in, well, too long, but I suspect that my info is ok. As background, I used to transit Denpasar a lot. "A Lot" is a couple times a month, sometimes more frequently. Anyway, the first couple times I stayed in Kuta / airport area, I complained to friends that Bali was really dead. My friends asked what time I was prowling around and I said 9 or 10 p. M, after dinner. They laughed at me and said (correctly) that none of the bars even woke up until midnight, which I found to be true (Mbargo and the like, others in Semenyak).

I think you'd do well to get a room in Kuta the first night and move elsewhere (or not) the next day. Good luck! TTG.

[LifeIsABeach]

I hear many Aussies refer to Sanur as "Sa'nore" as in zzzzzzzzzzz. They claim everything closes at 8:00 PM. I know a bar or two that's open to about midnight.Sanur is not know for night life. But there are quite a few bars open till midnight or later. You have to look for them. Thankfully you are not in Ubud where there is NO night life. City trying to be too cool. I spent 2 nights there. May not too bad if you brought company there otherwise no place to meet anyone. Places do close by 8 or 9 pm.

[Kodja]

Hi Cheech. I haven't been to Bali in, well, too long, but I suspect that my info is ok. As background, I used to transit Denpasar a lot. "A Lot" is a couple times a month, sometimes more frequently. Anyway, the first couple times I stayed in Kuta / airport area, I complained to friends that Bali was really dead. My friends asked what time I was prowling around and I said 9 or 10 p. M, after dinner. They laughed at me and said (correctly) that none of the bars even woke up until midnight, which I found to be true (Mbargo and the like, others in Semenyak).

I think you'd do well to get a room in Kuta the first night and move elsewhere (or not) the next day. Good luck! TTG.If you are after clubbing to the early hours head to Seminyak. Plenty to choose from at this part of the island.

[OsakaGin11]

G'day everyone.

I am on my way to Bali over the northern summer, for the first time since 1983. I am sure it has changed just a dot since then!

Actually I have the read the forum but I haven't seen a lot of information about reasonably priced hotels in the down town Kuta beach area.

Sorry to trouble any of you long time users, but I would appreciate if some of you old Bali hands could point me in the right direction of a nice girl friendly centrally located hotel with good buffet breakfast.

[Eszpresszo]

I hear many Aussies refer to Sanur as "Sa'nore" as in zzzzzzzzzzz.

They claim everything closes at 8:00 PM.

I know a bar or two that's open to about midnight.I have repeatedly read on different sources, that Kuta is the place to pick up drunk Aussie girls late at night. Sometimes they may be lying the street. Maybe that is what those Aussies are after. But, I've got Yellow Fever and I am not travelling 6 k miles across the Pacific to hook up with large Anglo women. I'm usually in bed by midnight, anyways and sometimes earlier if I started drinking before the sun gets low.

So is there a most pleasant time to visit Bali? When is the weather most advantageous? Any period to avoid? I will be starting a new job next week and I think my mongering will be off for a full year. But, my plan is to hit Indonesia in July (when the weather is supposedly the coolest) and they are done with their Ramadan nonsense.

[Robert Long]

I hear many Aussies refer to Sanur as "Sa'nore" as in zzzzzzzzzzz.

They claim everything closes at 8:00 PM.

I know a bar or two that's open to about midnight.Let's hope that the Aussies believe this rumor and stay in Kuta. A party town, Kuta is for the young and restless, like when we were all in collage. Sanur is more mellow and laid back. Kuta is full of hustlers and con men always trying to sell you something you do not want. The WG's are the same everywhere with the exception that in Kuta they wear sexy clothes and makeup and charge 5 times what you pay in Sanur.

Take your pick.

RL.

[Offshore Swell]

I have repeatedly read on different sources, that Kuta is the place to pick up drunk Aussie girls late at night. Sometimes they may be lying the streetHeh Heh, you ever notice those little lever operated water hoses in Indonesian toilets? Well Aussie girls don't know what they are for. Big mouths, big arses, big attitudes and a bad smell "down there". Every country has a place for their trailer park trash to holiday. The English go to Ibiza, Americans to Mexico. Aussies go to Kuta. Why would you bother helping a stranded whale when you could meet a SYT in Sanur for 250 000 and then go home and have a quiet beer afterwards?

Hope that helps.

OS.

[Robert Long]

Heh Heh, you ever notice those little lever operated water hoses in Indonesian toilets? Well Aussie girls don't know what they are for. Big mouths, big arses, big attitudes and a bad smell "down there". Every country has a place for their trailer park trash to holiday. The English go to Ibiza, Americans to Mexico. Aussies go to Kuta. Why would you bother helping a stranded whale when you could meet a SYT in Sanur for 250 000 and then go home and have a quiet beer afterwards?

Hope that helps.

OS.A great analogy. You said it perfectly.

RL.

[Eszpresszo]

Heh Heh, you ever notice those little lever operated water hoses in Indonesian toilets? Well Aussie girls don't know what they are for. Big mouths, big arses, big attitudes and a bad smell "down there". Every country has a place for their trailer park trash to holiday. The English go to Ibiza, Americans to Mexico. Aussies go to Kuta. Why would you bother helping a stranded whale when you could meet a SYT in Sanur for 250 000 and then go home and have a quiet beer afterwards?

Hope that helps.

OS.Never been to Indonesia yet, (hence my questions) but I'm assuming you are referring to a "bum gun." BTW, I lived in a house with some Aussies (and they are wonderful folks) in North London, way back in 1981. They told me that Bali was becoming the popular destination for young Aussies way back then. I can only imagine what it has become over these decades.

Sanur sounds great though. Any suggestions on a good time to go and good time not to go? I start a new job next week, and my team is in startup mode. I might not get free for another year (though the last 20 months have seen four mongering destinations in four countries and it was a good run). Trying to learn Bahasa Indonesia in the meantime, as it is supposed to be very easy to learn (it least it seems that way). Do you guys suggest a stopover in Jakarta first to taste the fruits there, or fly straight to DPS?

[Offshore Swell]

A great analogy. You said it perfectly.

RL.You could say that the true heroes of the story are the Balinese "Beach Boys", the ones who take the time to chat up these sunburned blocks of lard while they are wallowing on the beach, take them back to the chalet and then dive down into the cellulite in the hope of getting a better life.

Hopefully some of you get the irony in that. It's why I like to treat Indonesian WG's with respect.

Unfortunately those tattooed BBW's from the South as they like to so euphemistically call themselves are beyond salvation. And OS has a no cellulite rule.

Hope that helps.

OS.

[AffMat]

Just got back from and while I wasn't looking as I was meeting a young Indonesian GF I did hear that there are raids happen ATM including places like Riverview. I didn't have much luck with a RnT in Kuta and the girl spoke too was a bit worried about it. Likely something to do with Ramadan and new president.

[PolyOrchid]

I spent 28 days in Bali. My first visit in almost 20 years. Since it was a working holiday, I confined myself to Denpasar. Or more accurately, Seminyak.

I'd love to regale you with tales of lusty nights, but I'm not up to creating fiction today, so you'll be fed the truth, cold soup as it is.

Let me say right now, I have plebian tastes. I was raised on a farm in Wisconsin and was almost 18 before I discovered by chance (thanks Annie P) that one could copulate with females, and not just female farm animals. It was a wonderful awakening since I was days away from entering Holy Cross Seminary and a life of abiding tragedy.

Enough of that. Back to Bali. I liked the place. Except for its San Francisco-like retail and restaurant prices and filthy beaches. Actually, I highly recommend two Seminyak restaurants: The Corner House and The Organic Cafe (it's actually in Petitinget). Food generally there is delicious, lots of vegetarian choices and a fair good bit of Indian and Italian, though as noted, not cheap.

To pussy. I'd forgotten how sweet the Balinese are. Truly they are, especially the women, but then, I can only speak of surface interactions. I did make a trip to a massage parlor out in Sanur. A total waste of a trip. I'd better entertained my hand at home than taken the perilous 30-minute motorcycle trip to partake of that beyond the pale mindge.

Ah, but there's redemption. Being of a certain age, I still scan Craigslist. This trip was no exception. Out of 3 responses I made, only one replied, but it might take the Czech Chowder for these first 5 months. The details: A 40-ish North Sea oil rig worker offered a good time with his 22 year-old East Java GF. He was mostly a voyeur and Felliniesque director and enjoyed seeing the beautiful young lass roundly rogered (wishing she could have been rogered by the Wicked Roger).

She was about 5'4", slim, long legs, and hair blacker than the south side of Chicago at midnight. With piercing eyes and bullet-pointed nipples on a solid chest, she was the best sweat I worked up on the whole trip. While her English was limited, my Japanese-trained fingers elicited all the communication we needed. Grunting and panting is as universal as Esperanto, and this little princess exhibited fluency unseen in months by me.

We went a worthy two rounds and I made my required double deposits (they insisted on bareback and the through the wall deposit). I left a happy man.

The funny thing: the friendly and kind mick said he'd send me pics the following week. Three weeks have passed, and I'm still waiting. Oh well.

Poly.

[LifeIsABeach]

Just got back from and while I wasn't looking as I was meeting a young Indonesian GF I did hear that there are raids happen ATM including places like Riverview. I didn't have much luck with a RnT in Kuta and the girl spoke too was a bit worried about it. Likely something to do with Ramadan and new president.Nothing to worry about. It's time to squeeze some money from the owners. You may find a X house or a Aquarium closed on a night and that is the day the raid is supposed to be. The owners get tipped off.

[LifeIsABeach]

Sanur sounds great though. Any suggestions on a good time to go and good time not to go? I start a new job next week, and my team is in startup mode. I might not get free for another year (though the last 20 months have seen four mongering destinations in four countries and it was a good run). Trying to learn Bahasa Indonesia in the meantime, as it is supposed to be very easy to learn (it least it seems that way). Do you guys suggest a stopover in Jakarta first to taste the fruits there, or fly straight to DPS?How long is your trip? Jakarta has a lot to offer but traffic is horrendous. You have to decide where to stay and monger in that area. I did split my trip between Jakarta and Bali. Two totally different mongering destinations. Do you do some sight seeing or just deep diving 24 hours / day? LOL If you have a couple of weeks, you could spend a week in Jakarta and a week in Bali. Flights are cheap.

[Robert Long]

Nothing to worry about. It's time to squeeze some money from the owners. You may find a X house or a Aquarium closed on a night and that is the day the raid is supposed to be. The owners get tipped off.Yah, remember when they would raid the DVD shops? Funny because the shops would get the word the day before and clear out all the copies. Two days later they are all back on the racks.

RL.

[Eszpresszo]

How long is your trip? Jakarta has a lot to offer but traffic is horrendous. You have to decide where to stay and monger in that area. I did split my trip between Jakarta and Bali. Two totally different mongering destinations. Do you do some sight seeing or just deep diving 24 hours / day? LOL If you have a couple of weeks, you could spend a week in Jakarta and a week in Bali. Flights are cheap.Thanks for your response. I am looking at trying to squeeze in at least 9 days and possibly two full weeks. However, I am starting a new job next week, so I don't see myself going anywhere for a year. It will take me two days to get there, but you probably know how that works. I am a man who likes his variety, and would like to try both scenes. And yes I would like to do some sightseeing, though I understand Jakarta is not the place for that.

I understand that July is the coolest (or rather, least hot) month in Indonesia and right after Ramadan. Some other poster noted that at the end of Ramadan, the fresh girls from the small towns make their way to Jakarta to being their new careers in the sex trade. Any comments on the better months to visit? In any case, I have a year to plan this, though I had originally hoped to visit Asia again, this fall. Guess, I will have my nose to the grind instead. But, it has been a nice mongering streak for me in the past 20 months. Trips to four countries.

[LifeIsABeach]

Thanks for your response. I am looking at trying to squeeze in at least 9 days and possibly two full weeks. If it's only 9 days and your travel time included, then you have limited time. Try just Bali or Jakarta. More time, then split and do both places. For Jakarta, there is a wealth of information on that thread and some very experienced mongers to help. Decide where to monger and then get a hotel close to it. Enjoy.

[Traveling John #2]

Let's hope that the Aussies believe this rumor and stay in Kuta. A party town, Kuta is for the young and restless, like when we were all in collage. Sanur is more mellow and laid back. Kuta is full of hustlers and con men always trying to sell you something you do not want. The WG's are the same everywhere with the exception that in Kuta they wear sexy clothes and makeup and charge 5 times what you pay in Sanur.

Take your pick.

RL.I went with a girlfriend and thought it would be better to base out of Kuta for the party scene and was done with it after the first night. It was difficult to sleep at night as the music does not stop till late into the morning. The streets are filled with shady characters after 10 pm and did not feel very safe, even if it was. Ended up spending the rest of the time driving out to Sanur as the food was better, less dealing with the constant hassle of dudes offering whatever they were selling.

[VisitUSA]

https://coconuts.co/bali/news/bali-happy-ending-raids-continue-spa-therapist-caught-still-serving-customer-legian-massage-parlor/

I went there toward the end of June, but would probably have refrained doing so if I had read this article before.

The visit was pretty mediocre.

I also went to Bliss Massage in Jimbaran based on something I read last year, but there was no suggestion that any extras were offered. It might be because of the recent police activity or because what I read was inaccurate.

Good massage though.

[Roger Sideways]

https://coconuts.co/bali/news/bali-happy-ending-raids-continue-spa-therapist-caught-still-serving-customer-legian-massage-parlor/

I went there toward the end of June, but would probably have refrained doing so if I had read this article before.

The visit was pretty mediocre.

I also went to Bliss Massage in Jimbaran based on something I read last year, but there was no suggestion that any extras were offered. It might be because of the recent police activity or because what I read was inaccurate.

Good massage though.I've been to Riverview before and after the raid. Business as usual.

There are some very lovely ladies there; nice busty Balinese. Current rate is 2. 5 mill for 2 in the pool room or 2. 3 in the jacuzzi room.

[GreenRoamer]

It took taxi driver a while to find River View Spa. Classy place, nicely fitted out. When I was there the pool was not heated, and the girls would not get in with me. Not bad service, but they had minimal English and this was definitely not a GF experience. First time on Bali, probably the last. Back to Samui for me!!

[CannonCam]

Hello to all,

I have been reading the forum for a quite a lot but new to Bali forum.

I would appreciate of seniors can advice me.

I'm travelling to Bali in the month of Sept. 2017 Actually backpacking but I intend to take up a hotel for mongering.

I will be going to seminyak, canggu & gili. T.

I don't know how to get the girls here like they have some apps like thaifriedly, tinder what works here in Bali, is it same like Pattaya?

Is the mongering scene as good as p\Pattaya or after my travel I should head to Thailand for few days?

Guys need help.

[Rob Jones]

Hello to all,

I have been reading the forum for a quite a lot but new to Bali forum.

I would appreciate of seniors can advice me.

I'm travelling to Bali in the month of Sept. 2017 Actually backpacking but I intend to take up a hotel for mongering.

I will be going to seminyak, canggu & gili. T.

I don't know how to get the girls here like they have some apps like thaifriedly, tinder what works here in Bali, is it same like Pattaya?

Is the mongering scene as good as p\Pattaya or after my travel I should head to Thailand for few days?

Guys need help.Hi,

I have had success with Badoo and Tagged in Bali. I managed to get 3 days to myself before meeting the family on Java last July and scored 3 very different girls. All 3 were my first choices so I didn't need to use my back ups. One was a part time hooker which cost me about 500,000 for an afternoon and she had just turned 22. Hearing about the unreliability of girls on these apps I had about 6 back ups. I would start to make connections soon and if need be maybe book a couple of different hotels just in case they get clingy and want to hang out with you all the time. I am planning my first trip to Pattaya for next February so I take it Thaifriendly works ok there?

All the best and I hope you score some stunners.

[GreenToad]

I will be in Bali for four days in December (I haven't been there in many years). I'm thinking of spending two days in Sanur at either Takso, Akana boutique, Nutah Bale, or Mercur and then Kuta / Legian for two days. Sanur seems like it might be a bit quiet for me but I like the idea of X houses and fishbowls. I would ideally like to select a girl at a fishbowl or X house and bring her back to my hotel for an unrushed 2 or 3 hours. Will girls be willing to do this (I expect this will cost me a bit more)? Can anyone comment on my hotel choices?

Thoughts and suggestions much appreciated.

[Roger Sideways]

I will be in Bali for four days in December (I haven't been there in many years). I'm thinking of spending two days in Sanur at either Takso, Akana boutique, Nutah Bale, or Mercur and then Kuta / Legian for two days. Sanur seems like it might be a bit quiet for me but I like the idea of X houses and fishbowls. I would ideally like to select a girl at a fishbowl or X house and bring her back to my hotel for an unrushed 2 or 3 hours. Will girls be willing to do this (I expect this will cost me a bit more)? Can anyone comment on my hotel choices?

Thoughts and suggestions much appreciated.I've stayed at the Mercure. Girl friendly, although a lot of families stay there too. There are two pools and beach access if you want to spend some time with your friends outside the bedroom. It's also walking distance (less than 10 minutes) to several x-houses.

Getting take-out from the fishbowls is possible, but the papasan will charge you a bit more than the standard 200 K (eg 250 or 300) and the girls will expect a tip.

There are lots of girls on wechat in the Sanur area as well who are happy to visit hotels for 300 k or thereabouts. Let me know if you would like some contacts.

[GreenToad]

I've stayed at the Mercure. Girl friendly, although a lot of families stay there too. There are two pools and beach access if you want to spend some time with your friends outside the bedroom. It's also walking distance (less than 10 minutes) to several x-houses.

Getting take-out from the fishbowls is possible, but the papasan will charge you a bit more than the standard 200 K (eg 250 or 300) and the girls will expect a tip.

There are lots of girls on wechat in the Sanur area as well who are happy to visit hotels for 300 k or thereabouts. Let me know if you would like some contacts.Thank you, Roger! I don't mind paying a bit more, and giving tips for good service. What would be the best time to find a good selection at the fishbowls? Do you have any favorites (I have most of the addresses noted from the forum and the X house map)? I'm assuming that all hotels in the area are girl friendly so for the reason you noted, I might skip the Mercur. I'm not really a beach person and I can't decide if I want to spend four days in Sanur, or spend 2 nights in Sanur and 2 in Kuta / Legian. I would like to have at least one evening out in Kuta to see the action but I guess I can always take Uber or Grab back to Sanur at 2:00 AM.

I have sent $ in for a membership. As soon as it is activated (approx. 2 weeks), I would will PM you for some contacts.

Thanks!

[Albert9989]

Thank you, Roger! I don't mind paying a bit more, and giving tips for good service. What would be the best time to find a good selection at the fishbowls? Do you have any favorites (I have most of the addresses noted from the forum and the X house map)? I'm assuming that all hotels in the area are girl friendly so for the reason you noted, I might skip the Mercur. I'm not really a beach person and I can't decide if I want to spend four days in Sanur, or spend 2 nights in Sanur and 2 in Kuta / Legian. I would like to have at least one evening out in Kuta to see the action but I guess I can always take Uber or Grab back to Sanur at 2:00 AM.

I have sent $ in for a membership. As soon as it is activated (approx. 2 weeks), I would will PM you for some contacts.

Thanks!Hi,

Regarding hotel in Sanur area, I can advise Hotel Jati and Home Stay on Jl. Danau Tamblingan 168 - 170, I stayed there last year, less than 40 €, very nice typical Balinese villas, may be it could be a good option.

[Chalmers]

Talking about accommodation, can anyone tell me what I should pay for a couple of months in Sanur? I checked Airbnb and it looks like about US $650-800 per month for clean, modern 1-room that has ac and WiFi and is within walking distance of the fishbowls and a few bars / convenience stores. This is for March / April next year.

Will I do better than that booking a short stay and then doing a deal for the rest of the time? Do many of the hotels there have kitchens you can use?

I'd like to pay about $400 if possible but at that price I'm seeing "be aware there is no hot water", "fan cooled", "only 30 minutes to the nearest bar", "must like roaches" etc.

Grateful for any local info / pointers.

[Ryo Saeba]

Hello Indonesian experts,
I'll be visiting Bali again next week after a long long time, and in the process of setting myself up with the chance to get to know Indo/Balinese culture better, I struck a few Tinder dates with girls who are not prostitutes (at least according to my p4p-sense and/or what they say about themselves).

So my question is: in order to present yourself as friendly yet proper, what's the best way to greet a "regular" Indonesian girl who you're meeting for the first time in a public place?
Kiss on the cheek, handshake, respectful distance, somersaults?

If it matters, I'm a younger looking 39 years old and they're in the 24 to 32 age range.

You can count on me posting a full report of my experiences.
thank you,
Ryo.

[Robert Long]

Talking about accommodation, can anyone tell me what I should pay for a couple of months in Sanur? I checked Airbnb and it looks like about US $650-800 per month for clean, modern 1-room that has ac and WiFi and is within walking distance of the fishbowls and a few bars / convenience stores. This is for March / April next year.

Will I do better than that booking a short stay and then doing a deal for the rest of the time? Do many of the hotels there have kitchens you can use?

I'd like to pay about $400 if possible but at that price I'm seeing "be aware there is no hot water", "fan cooled", "only 30 minutes to the nearest bar", "must like roaches" etc.

Grateful for any local info / pointers.Negotiations are well accepted in Bali. You can work it and get it down to $400. A month.

RL.

[Pak Mike]

Hello Indonesian experts,
I'll be visiting Bali again next week after a long long time, and in the process of setting myself up with the chance to get to know Indo/Balinese culture better, I struck a few Tinder dates with girls who are not prostitutes (at least according to my p4p-sense and/or what they say about themselves).

So my question is: in order to present yourself as friendly yet proper, what's the best way to greet a "regular" Indonesian girl who you're meeting for the first time in a public place?
Kiss on the cheek, handshake, respectful distance, somersaults?

If it matters, I'm a younger looking 39 years old and they're in the 24 to 32 age range.

You can count on me posting a full report of my experiences.
thank you,
Ryo.I have had a few years living in various parts of Indonesia and would suggest a handshake, or respectful distance with eye contact and a friendly smile.

[Rob Jones]

Hello Indonesian experts,
I'll be visiting Bali again next week after a long long time, and in the process of setting myself up with the chance to get to know Indo/Balinese culture better, I struck a few Tinder dates with girls who are not prostitutes (at least according to my p4p-sense and/or what they say about themselves).

So my question is: in order to present yourself as friendly yet proper, what's the best way to greet a "regular" Indonesian girl who you're meeting for the first time in a public place?
Kiss on the cheek, handshake, respectful distance, somersaults?

If it matters, I'm a younger looking 39 years old and they're in the 24 to 32 age range.

You can count on me posting a full report of my experiences.
thank you,
Ryo.Hi,

Last year using Badoo and Tagged (Hi-5) I met 3 local girls and after some conversations they knew why I was there and what they could expect. In regards to meeting in public a handshake is fine. Dressing well and displaying good manners will score you brownie points. Referring to them as M'Bak pronounced like mmaaa is respectful and they may call you Mas, if not Balinese and Bli if Balinese. Pretty much other then holding hands any public displays of affection is frowned upon if they are "good girls". Good behaviour in public will be rewarded as by my experience the longest I was in my room with any of them clothed was about 5 minutes.

Be careful not to fall for the girls or lead them on that you are marrying material as it will cause them to lose face or you may have a fairly ferocious stalker on your hands.

Good luck and waiting to read your reports.

Rob.

[Member #4551]

Been there before, and will be going again around Eid hols with a Occasionally partner who will go off on excursions and mountain trekking and so on.

Seems a bit of a sleepy place, but wondered if there were any hidden gems for massage with extras!? I've also heard about 'beer massage' in Bali, and again keen to know if there's such a thing in Ubud.

[Rob Jones]

Been there before, and will be going again around Eid hols with a Occasionally partner who will go off on excursions and mountain trekking and so on.

Seems a bit of a sleepy place, but wondered if there were any hidden gems for massage with extras!? I've also heard about 'beer massage' in Bali, and again keen to know if there's such a thing in Ubud.Hi,

I think the Eid holidays are over for the year, probably late June early July this year, my wife is Muslim so I know they are over. Maybe you are going when the Independence day, 17th August.

[Always09]

Will be in Bali for a couple of days. Staying at Nusa Dua. Any mongering places close by. Fishbowls, massage parlous would be helpful.

Last time around was with a group so couldn't explore much.

Thanks.

[Irishal]

Been in Bali a few days, pretty disappointed to be honest. I'm not much into working girls, but I love having a massage with a happy ending.

Been to over seven spas and not so much as a sniff of a handjob. The best I have been offered is a bum massage, that didn't lead anywhere.

So does anyone know how it works here, for a happy ending? Its the only place I've been in Asia where a happy ending is not the norm after a massage.

Going to try Onassis spa in the next day or two. Will post a FR after that.

[Member #4551]

Been in Bali a few days, pretty disappointed to be honest. I'm not much into working girls, but I love having a massage with a happy ending.

Been to over seven spas and not so much as a sniff of a handjob. The best I have been offered is a bum massage, that didn't lead anywhere.

So does anyone know how it works here, for a happy ending? Its the only place I've been in Asia where a happy ending is not the norm after a massage.

Going to try Onassis spa in the next day or two. Will post a FR after that.I'm in Ubud at beginning if Sept, and not holding out much hope.

[Roger Sideways]

Will be in Bali for a couple of days. Staying at Nusa Dua. Any mongering places close by. Fishbowls, massage parlous would be helpful.

Last time around was with a group so couldn't explore much.

Thanks.Some of the massage places might offer more than a massage, and plenty of girls on wechat. For fishbowls head over to Sanur which is about 20 minutes away across the toll road.

[Roger Sideways]

Been in Bali a few days, pretty disappointed to be honest. I'm not much into working girls, but I love having a massage with a happy ending.

Been to over seven spas and not so much as a sniff of a handjob. The best I have been offered is a bum massage, that didn't lead anywhere.

So does anyone know how it works here, for a happy ending? Its the only place I've been in Asia where a happy ending is not the norm after a massage.

Going to try Onassis spa in the next day or two. Will post a FR after that.Onassis is full service and very expensive. There are several full service places that offer just as good service at around 1/3 the price.

Swell in Kerobokan and Body Arum in Renon (close to Sanur) are two places that specifically offer happy ending massages only.

[Goferring]

Onassis is full service and very expensive. There are several full service places that offer just as good service at around 1/3 the price.

Swell in Kerobokan and Body Arum in Renon (close to Sanur) are two places that specifically offer happy ending massages only.Don't forget that there is also a Delta Spa in Bali.

[Hiete]

Been in Bali a few days, pretty disappointed to be honest. I'm not much into working girls, but I love having a massage with a happy ending.

Been to over seven spas and not so much as a sniff of a handjob. The best I have been offered is a bum massage, that didn't lead anywhere.

So does anyone know how it works here, for a happy ending? Its the only place I've been in Asia where a happy ending is not the norm after a massage.

Going to try Onassis spa in the next day or two. Will post a FR after that.Try RTFF or have a look at Barry's monger map.

As Roger mentioned there's Swell and Body Arum plus a Body Arum reopened again in Sanur at Jl Pantai Sindu near the Bypass in front of resto Kayu Manis. BA gives happy ending but they don't go naked but it's relatively cheap with prices going to 250 k-300 k.

You probably can get a massage and blow job and more for that price in Chloe Spa on Jl Danau Tamblingan near pasar Sindu.

Swell has another joint named Flame Spa on Jl Patih Jelantik near Kuta. Women go butt naked but you pay the price. About 650 k for one hour and most likely the only place that is adding tax and sevice on top of their prices. Ridiculous. Touching and groping allowed. Perhaps titty sucking. Nothing more.

You want to have a massage and go the whole 9 yards there are joints nearby Flame. Area is Kuta Central Park with places like Ofis Spa and Delapan Spa. No idea what they charge in Delapan but I have read on Kaskus you can have it all in for 650 k instead of 850 k if you tell them you've heard about the price on Kaskus forum.

If you're more into Flame type of SOP then perhaps you can go to Refrezzz also situated on Kuta Central Park. Bikini, monokini or full nude. No all in. Another Refrezzz is situated in Denpasar, Jl Tukad Batanghari not that far away from BA in Renon. It's another Sensation Spa like the Refrezz in Kuta Central Park. Two more of such sensation type of Spa's are Kretya and Sriya Spa in Jl Merta Sari if I'm not wrong.

Want to have more Spa with full service then you have Zona Spa which is also on the Bypass not far away from Onasis. Another one named Riverview on Jl Kresna and Maharani on Jl. Merta Nadi nearby Sunset road where Snake Massage is available for 450 k with a girl who goes topless and whatever else you want as long as you pay the price.

I can go on and on depending on what you're exactly looking for (Kuta Bugar, Oriental Massage, Mawar, Angels, Wisata, Praja Spa, the'ladera Spa, Melati if it still exist, Delta Spa, Royal Palace,.). Don't forget that in most places they speak barely English.

[Kelbrol]

Onassis is full service and very expensive. There are several full service places that offer just as good service at around 1/3 the price.

Swell in Kerobokan and Body Arum in Renon (close to Sanur) are two places that specifically offer happy ending massages only.In Swell, you can have blow job as extra and the service is very good in general.

[Irishal]

In Swell, you can have blow job as extra and the service is very good in general.I went to flame which is a sister spa of swell.

It was clean tidy and very professional. I had a 2 girl body to body for 890. This included a handjob, but there was an offer of 1 girl BJ for 500 or 2 girl for 800. I didn't take this up. The girls where 6 and 7 and the handjob was excellent one girl on shaft the other on the balls.

[Jlaz87]

Hi,

Does anyone have knowledge or experience with an all inclusive place in Bali, referred to on their internet website as Balivillasales.net? They indicate that you can stay in their villas for multiple days and have over 100 girls to choose from for 12 hours / day. Sounds kind of like the all inclusive places in the DR. They also advertise outcall to your hotel should you not want to stay with them, but the price is about $200 for a couple of hours, whereas the all inclusive is $300 for the day, including accommodations, meals and the girl.

Thanks much.

[OsakaGin11]

I went to flame which is a sister spa of swell.

It was clean tidy and very professional. I had a 2 girl body to body for 890. This included a handjob, but there was an offer of 1 girl BJ for 500 or 2 girl for 800. I didn't take this up. The girls where 6 and 7 and the handjob was excellent one girl on shaft the other on the balls.Do Swell or Flame spas take Visa or MasterCard. Or is it an all cash transaction?

Thanks in advance.

[Kelbrol]

Do Swell or Flame spas take Visa or MasterCard. Or is it an all cash transaction?

Thanks in advance.They accept card, but charge 2,5%.

[Wimble]

Try RTFF or have a look at Barry's monger map.

As Roger mentioned there's Swell and Body Arum plus a Body Arum reopened again in Sanur at Jl Pantai Sindu near the Bypass in front of resto Kayu Manis. BA gives happy ending but they don't go naked but it's relatively cheap with prices going to 250 k-300 k.

You probably can get a massage and blow job and more for that price in Chloe Spa on Jl Danau Tamblingan near pasar Sindu.

Swell has another joint named Flame Spa on Jl Patih Jelantik near Kuta. Women go butt naked but you pay the price. About 650 k for one hour and most likely the only place that is adding tax and sevice on top of their prices. Ridiculous. Touching and groping allowed. Perhaps titty sucking. Nothing more.

You want to have a massage and go the whole 9 yards there are joints nearby Flame. Area is Kuta Central Park with places like Ofis Spa and Delapan Spa. No idea what they charge in Delapan but I have read on Kaskus you can have it all in for 650 k instead of 850 k if you tell them you've heard about the price on Kaskus forum..Nice list and breakdown. I have not strayed far from my old haunts and nice to have options to branch out to as my time is usually tight.

[Pedros Needs]

I went to flame which is a sister spa of swell.

It was clean tidy and very professional. I had a 2 girl body to body for 890. This included a handjob, but there was an offer of 1 girl BJ for 500 or 2 girl for 800. I didn't take this up. The girls where 6 and 7 and the handjob was excellent one girl on shaft the other on the balls.I visited here last week.

Turned my nose up at the price and was offered a % rate of 520.000. Offered a BJ for an extra 200 in the room.

Very clean place good 1 hour massage with body slide, not bad all be it not FS.

Close to where I stay so I will use from time to time, 7's the one I saw.

Pedro.

[TiaMoman]

I am visiting Bali in first week of Sept. Any direct contacts or references will be much appreciated from the seniors. I have gone through RTFF and the Map as well, I still have some queries your inputs will help me to sort out things.

1. How safe is Fishbowls visits? (from the point of view of Medical and LE).

2. Whats Fleapit? (Sorry if I missed out something while RTFF).

3. How well the App called 'Easy Spa Deals' works?

4. A general charges for the FS at Spa (Price range Min-Max) to be paid.

Your inputs will help a lot, Thanks a Lot in Advance.

P.S: PM is activated.

Just for your reference I will be Staying in Sanur (2 Nights) And Kuta (3 nights).

Regards,

Tiamoman.

[Roger Sideways]

I am visiting Bali in first week of Sept. Any direct contacts or references will be much appreciated from the seniors. I have gone through RTFF and the Map as well, I still have some queries your inputs will help me to sort out things.

1. How safe is Fishbowls visits? (from the point of view of Medical and LE).

2. Whats Fleapit? (Sorry if I missed out something while RTFF).

3. How well the App called 'Easy Spa Deals' works?

4. A general charges for the FS at Spa (Price range Min-Max) to be paid.

Your inputs will help a lot, Thanks a Lot in Advance.

P.S: PM is activated.

Just for your reference I will be Staying in Sanur (2 Nights) And Kuta (3 nights).

Regards,

Tiamoman.Fishbowls are a bit seedy, but there are some gems there. For standard price of 200 K or tourist price of 250 k - 1 Juta you can sometimes find a nice litle spinner. They are places to go for a quick fuck, and that is all. I've never been concerned for my safety there, and I always insist on BBBJ but sex with a condom.

Fleapits are dingy bars with girls and rooms out the back. Very cheap (50-150 K) but neither the girls nor the other patrons are very welcoming of foreigners unless you speak Bahasa Indonesia and splash a bit of money around. They are really mainly for locals.

I haven't tried Easy Spa Deals but at first sight it looks like a legit spa site and not a way of finding massage plus.

FS at spas that are really brothels will set you back 500,000 - 1200000 per girl.

FS as an add-on to a massage can be much cheaper, but it is not offered everywhere.

In Kuta, cheap places for massage plus FS are Mawar and Angels salons near Dewa Ruci.

In Sanur the lovely Julia at Chloe's salon on Jalan Tamblingan near the market will take care of you.

300 - 400 K for massage plus plus in each of the above places is fairly standard.

Happy to PM if you want more information or to meet up while you are here.

[TiaMoman]

Hey,

Thanks a lot for your help and your insight.

Good to know that you are a local and ready to help. I will PM you once I reach there.

Regards.


Fishbowls are a bit seedy, but there are some gems there. For standard price of 200 K or tourist price of 250 k - 1 Juta you can sometimes find a nice litle spinner. They are places to go for a quick fuck, and that is all. I've never been concerned for my safety there, and I always insist on BBBJ but sex with a condom.

Fleapits are dingy bars with girls and rooms out the back. Very cheap (50-150 K) but neither the girls nor the other patrons are very welcoming of foreigners unless you speak Bahasa Indonesia and splash a bit of money around. They are really mainly for locals.

I haven't tried Easy Spa Deals but at first sight it looks like a legit spa site and not a way of finding massage plus.

FS at spas that are really brothels will set you back 500,000 - 1200000 per girl..

[Rick Steves]

In Sanur the lovely Julia at Chloe's salon on Jalan Tamblingan near the market will take care of you.Can you provide more details on the location of Chloe's? I'd like to try it, but I'm striking out so far. I walked down to the market this evening and could not find a Chloe's Salon. I couldn't find it on the monger map or on Google, either. I did see a place near the market named "Julia's Massage." Could that be the place you meant?

[Empire1]

Can you provide more details on the location of Chloe's? I'd like to try it, but I'm striking out so far. I walked down to the market this evening and could not find a Chloe's Salon. I couldn't find it on the monger map or on Google, either. I did see a place near the market named "Julia's Massage." Could that be the place you meant?It's 2 doors down from the well signed Bali Organic Pharmacy and Spa. Up close to the entrance to the markets than Julia Spa.

[Manfield04]

Chloe's Salon is at 10 Jalan Tamblingan. It is about 50 metres from Julia's Massage, on the same side, if you walk towards the North. You just have to open your eyes, walk slowly and read the sign on each shop.


Can you provide more details on the location of Chloe's? I did see a place near the market named "Julia's Massage."

[The Red Baron]

Hi,

I think the Eid holidays are over for the year, probably late June early July this year, my wife is Muslim so I know they are over. Maybe you are going when the Independence day, 17th August.Actually there are two Eid's every year. Eid al-Adha holiday is coming up on 1 September.

[Rob Jones]

Actually there are two Eid's every year. Eid al-Adha holiday is coming up on 1 September.The Abraham one? Not as big as the Eid al Ftr and not as disruptive. I'm sure it will be easy to score anyhow. Last year I was in Bali the 3 days before Eid al Ftr and had 3 different girls and one was a Muslim so not impossible.

[Loose Cannon]

As mentioned in my previous report, I booked my stay in Sannur. The purpose of the rest of my stay was to monger during the night and visit places of interest during the day. To minimise the cost factor, and ease of access to fishbowls, I had taken accommodation in a dormitory, in the danau poso area. I did not expect myself to charm any locals / tourists back to my room nor did I feel that paying close to 1 junta for a FL worth. I felt that its better to pay 250 k at the fishbowl and get a confirm fuck. I became a regular at 11 X and fixed a rate of 250 K. I specify my requirements like Balinese / Javanese etc and shape, he fetches one as per his choice (mostly matching my requirement).

Most of the nights 1 take 2 girls for a night. One late evening around 7 and one by night by 11 pm. I felt the services fairly OK to good. I tend to give 50 K as tip if service is good and if I hear complaining, I reduce it 30 k or even nothing.

The only problem I faced was that if the session goes beyond 15 min, the girl starts complaining and it goes to the point of irritation beyond half HR. After half HR the girl is unwilling to have sex and insists on finishing with a hand job only. The whole complaining takes the fun out of the fuck. I sometimes rudely tell them that they are there to be fucked and so stop whining. (All this bravado with my balls in their hands. LOL. One extra hard squeeze, I am out of business. Hehe). Looks like they are mostly used to folks who finish off in 5 minutes. I once had a WG in poppy street who asked if I was done on my 5th thrust. I told her, I am just getting to know the playground, there is lots of play left.

(Extremely sorry for huge time gap between my last post.).

[Loose Cannon]

Sanur is relatively quieter than Legian / Seminyak part of Bali. Primary places of mongering are fish bowls. Numerous X houses are available. Some are fishbowls who maintain a bevy of girls to be chosen, others are run by papasans who fetch girls from these fishbowls as per requirement of mongers. You are generally quoted 400 or even 500, but you can negotiate it to 200 k if you are very good or 250 k to 300 k. These seem to be the price at both fishbowls and the ones where girl gets delivered. I believe that these papasans pay 100 k for the girl to the fishbowl and keeping the rest with himself for providing with the room. 18/66 X and 29 have a collection of girls in their fishbowl. I generally used the services of 41 x paying him 250 k and 200 k during the last 3 times. He brought me my girls and also introduced me to a guy from whom I hired a motorbike for rent at 50 k per day against the going rate of 60 k per day. The only problem with this arrangement was that every time I walked along the road near his place, he greets me loudly becoming me to enter which was kinda embarrassing.

Sanur also has a lot of massage places. 90% of them don't provide extra services. Normally you get hints of extras provided, after they finish massaging your back massage and make you lie on your back. None of the places seemed to provide. After a wonderful massage with happy ending in legion, I wanted a similar experience. I was duly disappointed. I was of the impression that if the massage centre did not have employees wearing a uniform, you are more likely offered extra services. Boy was I wrong. Only good thing was that the massages were pretty good and very cheap.

If Sanur veterans are able to provide us with locations where you do get extras it would be helpful. I felt the massage center next to 41 x does provide with extras, but I did not try it. Others may comment / confirm. I don't remember the name as well.

In Kuta region, you sometimes find girls sitting in a dark SUV. I did not notice any such services in Sanur. Anyway I find that these services a bit risky and not worth the effort and money. It would be great if other mongers shed more light on these SUV girls, like what not to do so that you don't regret these experiences.

LC.

[Loose Cannon]

I refer mostly to seminyak and especially legian when I mean Kuta. One aspect of this region is that it is much more lively and noisy. While Sanur is known for fishbowl and proper brothels, Kuta is served by numerous massage parlours which front other activities. Again not every parlour offer these services. I was of the opinion that if a massage parlour had its employees wear some kind of uniform, it is most likely be a genuine parlour without extra offerings. I may be wrong in that aspect. I had company with me when I was in Kuta last time and I had to be careful while choosing parlour to maintain a clean image. Parlours which offer these services will set you back by 400 k to 1 juta based on how you negotiate.

Skygarden also happens to be another spot where you can meet girls. These girls are much better dressed that the WG which are available in popply lane. I was approached by a couple of WG, but as I had company and I could not take it forward. I think these girls will also demand anyway close to 1 juta. It helps if you have a room where you can bring these girls back.

Anytime you walk around in Kuta, you are given the same proposition. You want mushroom / drug, or girl. I don't do drugs and have no intention of staying in any of the South east Asian jails. Girls are a much safer option. Depending on where you are you are either taken to a SUV / VAN with girls or you are taken to a hotel near zero point. Based on your requirement, they will bring a girl, you may choose or reject. You are mostly charged 400 or higher. I did not feel the van setup to be safe. Desperate johhny was the reason I used the van setup. Once while waiting for a friend and enquiring the whereabouts of a shop, I made conversation with a guy, who offered a girl from the van setup for 200 k. I could not take it up as I had other things planned up. I am sure it would have been a scam and I may be asked to pay for more once we choose the girl or make us pay extra for room.

One more way is to hook up with other tourists. I have not attempted that. While I look athletic and in better shape, me being indian does not put me high in pecking order. So I tend to ignore these avenues. I have also not tired wechat or other social media apps to hook up with locals. Maybe next time.

LC.

[Empire1]

If Sanur veterans are able to provide us with locations where you do get extras it would be helpful. I felt the massage center next to 41 x does provide with extras, but I did not try it. Others may comment / confirm. I don't remember the name as well.

LC.RIACA spa, almost next door to 41 x on Sudamala, it has extras. There are 2-3 ladies there that will do BBBJ + massage for 250 K (massages not that great though).

[Gargamon]

I'll be in Sanur next week for about a month and need somewhere reasonable to rent. Can anyone give me pointer to a clean, safe, furnished place that will rent for the month at a reasonable cost? I would think 4 million would be a reasonable rate. My plan is to get a hotel the first night while I look around for something for the rest of the month. I spend 4 or 5 months there 7 or 8 years ago, so I know my way around.

Thanks.

[Loose Cannon]

RIACA spa, almost next door to 41 x on Sudamala, it has extras. There are 2-3 ladies there that will do BBBJ + massage for 250 K (massages not that great though).Yes I vaguely remember that is the name of the massage parlor next to 41 x. I too heard that the massage is poor. Also that they were relatively old. But if you need a good massage, there are loads of places in sanur. Hehe.

[Always09]

Did venture out in Kuta and it's not as dry as the forum is. Tried sky garden and it has 4 dance floors. One at the top crowded and mostly couples and guys looking to dance. Second floor 3 dancers good if you just want to drink beer and enjoy the girls no strips. Ground floor and 1st floor. DJ and girls dancing on the stage. Completely full after 12. Can definitely get WG's ground floor. Picked up one but for the next day after taking her #. Looks 6. 5/10 but service top notch.

Walk around the street and you'll see lot of offers but be careful.

[Loose Cannon]

I missed mentioning this hotel. I find that it is not mentioned much in this forum. I chanced upon this place on my first visit to sanur, having visited 29 and paying 400 (including taxi commission), the taxi guy took me to barokah hotel. Again I was made to pay 250 of which the taxi guy would have got commission. I am sure my 'that' sanur visit was a windfall for the taxi guy and I must have been the one who got screwed.

At Barokah hotel, the girl collection was not great. They were kind off WG who have reached their shelf life. The right price must be 150 k - 200 k for a bule. Having said that, the WG I had worked her jaws off with almost 15 min of BBBJ with balls sucking and multiple condom change sessions miss / doggy and WOT with CBJ and a good 15 min of hand-job. I definitely used up the entire hour allocated. It was one of my most satisfying session. I took this long because I had just emptied my balls in 29 half hour ago. This WG happened to work in Singapore and the best thing about her was that she did not complain 1 bit of me taking this long. I tipped her 50 k and also gave her some 20 Thai bahts I had in my wallet as she collects currencies. Some of these WG know how to satisfy men in spite of not being eye candy. I was lucky to catch her just as she reached for work and I was her first client of the night.

P.S. I don't know her name and this FR is easily 2 and half years old. Situations might have changed I have not been to that hotel again in-spite of staying in Sanur the very next year. I have also become more aware and don't let taxi guys act as middlemen.

[Rob Jones]

Did venture out in Kuta and it's not as dry as the forum is. Tried sky garden and it has 4 dance floors. One at the top crowded and mostly couples and guys looking to dance. Second floor 3 dancers good if you just want to drink beer and enjoy the girls no strips. Ground floor and 1st floor. Dj and girls dancing on the stage. Completely full after 12. Can definitely get wg's ground floor. Picked up one but for the next day after taking her #. Looks 6. 5/10 but service top notch.

Walk around the street and you'll see lot of offers but be careful.I think the differences between Bali and other SEA destinations is that in Bali there are not the bars like in Thailand and sex isn't openly on offer but it is obvious that you can get it easily. When I go to Bali I usually arrange thru Badoo and Tagged (hi5 in some places) and meet semi pros or amateur's. The sex is usually enthusiastic. Keep in mind my wife is Indonesian and has friends in Kuta etc so I have to be discreet so this method suits me. Other then Skygarden there are plenty of bars where you can meet FLs and have a good time. What is there to be careful about? I haven't had feet on the ground there for 12 months.

Thanks Rob.

[Kater100]

Did venture out in Kuta and it's not as dry as the forum is. Tried sky garden and it has 4 dance floors. One at the top crowded and mostly couples and guys looking to dance. Second floor 3 dancers good if you just want to drink beer and enjoy the girls no strips. Ground floor and 1st floor. Dj and girls dancing on the stage. Completely full after 12. Can definitely get wg's ground floor. Picked up one but for the next day after taking her #. Looks 6. 5/10 but service top notch.

Walk around the street and you'll see lot of offers but be careful.Thank you Always for the report. I am in Bali / Kuta next month I was looking for reports about freelancer in the Clubs / Bars but I didn't find much. Is Sky Garden the only place where I can find one or there are WG also in other clubs?

What nationality are the girls? All from Bali or from other countries?

[Loose Cannon]

I was facing issues in accessing this forum during my last visit to Bali. I think the internet is heavily restricted and lot of sites are not accessible. Faced the same issue in Jakarta as well. Is there any way I can bypass this and connect.

LC.

[Empire1]

I was facing issues in accessing this forum during my last visit to Bali. I think the internet is heavily restricted and lot of sites are not accessible. Faced the same issue in Jakarta as well. Is there any way I can bypass this and connect.

LC.I have found that different internet providers censor differently here in Indo, I have a VPN that I can use on my Mac or iPhone when I need to get around any local ISP blocking. I pay about $50 a year for mine. I use PIA Private Internet Access: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/.

[TiaMoman]

I have found that different internet providers censor differently here in Indo, I have a VPN that I can use on my Mac or iPhone when I need to get around any local ISP blocking. I pay about $50 a year for mine. I use PIA Private Internet Access: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/.Hi,

Thank you for the link.

I faced same issue. I Bought the local sim card with data only from Telkomsel (4 G) with 4 gb data. But many a times it use to show me an error while PM'ing or Replying to the post. Hotel's Wi-Fi had some filters as well. So this link will help people travelling around the world.

*Detail FR about my encounter in Bali coming up soon.

[Loose Cannon]

I have found that different internet providers censor differently here in Indo, I have a VPN that I can use on my Mac or iPhone when I need to get around any local ISP blocking. I pay about $50 a year for mine. I use PIA Private Internet Access: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/.Thank you for your suggestion. I will find out more about this and use it on my next trip. Thanks a lot.

LC.

[TiaMoman]

As I was Staying in Sanur thought of hitting the hot stone first. So went there around 7:30 pm, I just crossed to check the grounds and one man called me asked that Do you want "Ladies, Ladies" "Massage-Massage" First I ignored and just kept walking in a small lane adjacent to it. Just going ahead I found closed doors of Risca Spa. Turning back he again approached me, thought of asking the Rates he welcomed me and asked me to wait in the semi closed area of the house while he will get the Girls.

He quickly went and came back with 2 girls. One with the braces teeth! Little plum on the size. Second one was in good figure, tall but bit dark. Both were not of my taste. Still going further I asked the Rates he quoted me exuberant rates 500 k for 1 hour. I tried Negotiating, Max he gave the best rates of 400 K and was not ready to come down. I just walked off and even he got pissed off. My asking rate were 250 K and to break the Ice I was ready to come to 300 K. To this his explanation was only for Locals he gives these rates.

Starting of the Bali monger scene was on a rejection!! Never mind.

Regards.

[TiaMoman]

Day 2.

Closest to 41 X was 35 X. But it was dry and no movement was seen at any point of day or night. So skipped this and headed to 29 X.

From the main road there is a lane which turns towards the Fishbowl building and there are lot of rooms on the other side. This is the only entry and exit point from the main road. You can find many motobikes and Cars / Taxis ferrying the customers. Once entered you might feel that you are in the wrong house / Compound. But be confident and just walk in from the main road and towards your right the big glass wall is there and all the Girls are sitting on a bench. Take your time and choose from it.

Just a word of Caution: Make sure you confirm with the person incharge out there, (There are atleast 2-3 incharge) weather she is good in the service, and won't do the tantrums in middle of the act.

I choose one and finalised the Rate. After negotiation from 300 k to 175 K (Need to negotiate hard, but with a smiling face of course) They get pissed of very soon. I really wonder why?

Just waited for 5 minutes for the room allocation. We entered the room and hugged each other without DFK! With in no time we were in our birthday suit. Now the really face came up of the girl. She started throwing tantrums, like no touching or pressing the melons while she was giving me CBJ. This was first disappointment. Next was 2-3 minutes she was out of the CBJ mode and ready for the action in Miss. Position. I asked her for more CBJ but bluntly refused. This was the second Disappointment.

Entered into her in Miss. Banged her hard taking out my disappointment on her. She got furious and asked me to stop in between and changed her position to Doggy. At this I felt she is paying for the sex. Third Disappointment. Still I tried to be patient, and continued the act. Now the final blow came when she started complaining that I am taking too much time. (Please note till this point of the action it was just 15 mins from the point of entering the room). This was the peak of my temper. I just left her there and walked off to clean myself, got dressed and walked towards the person incharge who took money from me.

I discussed the whole scenario with him and express my disappointment. Then one more person walked towards me and asked me what is the problem and try to cool down me. By this time the girl was back in the Fishbowl room. Then he called her and asked what had happened, they spoke in local language and he got bit disappointed with her and had some verbal exchanges and she was send back. Second person told me that was I too harsh with her and consulted me to be gentle with the Ladies. I just said I have been mongering around the world so don't tell me how to handle the girls. To this he offered me Pay 50K more and choose another. At the first place I asked him to suggest the girl which won't do the tantrums. He pointed the girl in the green Dress. Nice in figure with good assets.

Again the room was allocated and we were in. She gave me nice hug and started with DFK and undressing me. Within no time we were on bed and I was enjoying her Melons and racks. Next 5 minutes was good deep CBJ followed by WOT and then exploded in Miss. After the act she kept talking about her life like where she came from and how long she is here and in this business. She cleaned me and we were out. She was beauty of the lot it seems and she gave good service as well.

Overall: First Girl: Nice Melons but never tasted. Lot of tantrums and attitude.

Second girl: Nice figure with handful of melons with nice and tight hole. Attitude was really good comparing the first one.

Damages 175 K + 50 K.

[TiaMoman]

Day 3.

It was the last day in Sanur before moving to Kuta. I had located the place well before on the google Map. So after the day trip to Ubud I got down at Mac Donald's and walked towards the spa. After waking for 10 minutes, I reached the place and saw the door was locked. So I waited for 45 mins and I did asked about the whereabout of the Julie, but no one knew where is she going to. As it was 7:30 they told me that she is out for dinner and she will return in 15 minutes. After waiting for 45 minutes let's wait for the 15 minutes more. In the meantime I was wandering in nearby shopping area collecting some Souvenirs!! By the way if you want to exchange the Money there is BMC Money Exchanger which gives you best rates without any commission.

After 15 minutes she arrives on her motorbike and enters the Spa. I asked her is she free now and give me the service now. But unfortunately she was book for the last appointment for the day and she promised me for next 10 am appointment. Exchanged the digits. So that before coming to her all the way I will confirm as I was moving to Kuta and had to check out the hotel by 12 pm. So the window was too small for me to take the risk.

Next day before leaving the Hotel I tried calling her she didn't reply so whatsapp her reminding the appointment. She replies to me and then I left the hotel. Reached there she was waiting for me with open arms and smile on her face. We entered the spa and she locked the door. This spa is a small single room divided into front counter and the Spa bed and a toilet at the end. She was bit surprised to know that how come I know her name and she also enquired that did I mentioned anything about her services to the neighbouring shops. I said of course not. Then without wasting time she asked me that what I want Massage or something more!! And we were into DFK mode and after that it was no looking back. I must say this was the best experience in Bali till now. She is in to proper GFE and takes care of you in fact she pampers you.

The action started with BBBJ and it was so heavenly feeling I just can't put it in words. Then WOT then Miss and then came in Doggy. We both were sweating and like pigs even though the AirCon was on Blast. In between we tried 69 as well and she was clean and non smelly at all. She gives you all the pleasure what a Man is looking for.

Overall: Body: 9/10.

Melons:10/10 Nice big with perky tits.

Hole: 9/10 Tight enough to give you pleasure.

Attitude: 10/10 Total GFE.

Damages: 250 K.

No need to carry packet.

[Loose Cannon]

As I was Staying in Sanur thought of hitting the hot stone first. So went there around 7:30 pm, I just crossed to check the grounds and one man called me asked that Do you want "Ladies, Ladies" "Massage-Massage" First I ignored and just kept walking in a small lane adjacent to it. Just going ahead I found closed doors of Risca Spa. Turning back he again approached me, thought of asking the Rates he welcomed me and asked me to wait in the semi closed area of the house while he will get the Girls.

He quickly went and came back with 2 girls. One with the braces teeth! Little plum on the size. Second one was in good figure, tall but bit dark. Both were not of my taste. Still going further I asked the Rates he quoted me exuberant rates 500 k for 1 hour. I tried Negotiating, Max he gave the best rates of 400 K and was not ready to come down. I just walked off and even he got pissed off. My asking rate were 250 K and to break the Ice I was ready to come to 300 K. To this his explanation was only for Locals he gives these rates.

Starting of the Bali monger scene was on a rejection!! Never mind.

Regards.I was able to negotiate with the 41 X guy for 250 K by telling him I will be back after 2-3 hrs for second shot. He initially took 300 k and for second one took 200 k only. Later on, he took only 250 k for every visit. Only problem was anytime I walk down the road, I get called to utilize his services. Kinda embarrassing if people who knows you are around you and you want to keep your mongering a secret. He also helped me get a scooter for local travel from a neighboring shop.

BTW the rates you paid in 29 is much less compared to what I paid. I paid 300 on one occasion and 250 on next visit. Next time I will negotiate better and also find out the one who provides good service from the papasans.

Thanks for your FR. Happy mongering.

LC.

[Rikiz]

I am visiting bali this weekend. As I read sanur is the best place to monger I have booked my stay there. Would really appreciate any contacts around the area for some good action for the days. Also is there a possibility for getting a chick for the whole day to bang? Thank you in advance.

[TiaMoman]

I am visiting bali this weekend. As I read sanur is the best place to monger I have booked my stay there. Would really appreciate any contacts around the area for some good action for the days. Also is there a possibility for getting a chick for the whole day to bang? Thank you in advance.Hi,

Just refer to my recent FR about Sanur. Secondly Look for the Monger Map which is a very useful map and which works offline as well giving you the exact location of the place.

Getting a girl for a day is easy but it all depends how much are you ready to shell out. And of course the safety is also concern. Rest many pointers are with in the forum just go through it.

Play safe and be safe.

Regards.

[TiaMoman]

Kuta:

Firstly Many thanks to Roger Sideways for all the pointers and Kuta as well as Sanur.

As I have heard and read a lot of Riverview Spa so thought of trying out then the rest.

The place where I was staying it was bit far so took a Taxi (Please read My Traveler's Information on Bali in the Next FR) Reached the place. I asked the driver to drop me on the main road just after the small bridge. I just walked 300 mtrs from the Main road to reach this place. First feeling while walking towards it is bit scary but once you enter the compound then you don't feel like that. As I enter one of the manger made me comfortable on the couch and offered me a welcome drink while he got in to explaining the different formats available. I was sure that I wanted two girls and 90 minutes. Which I made him clear in the beginning only. (Make sure you look and feel confident while Negotiation or other wise they take you for a ride.).

Requirement- 2 Girls 90 minutes of full service with both.

The negotiation started First quote (for Convenience purpose I will quote in USD) 220 USD for 2 Girls 2 hours. My reply 180 USD. Reply to this NO.

Next offer was 180 USD 2 Girls 60 minutes. My reply 150 USD 90 minutes. Reply to this Too less.

Then he tried to divert my Mind by showing the room in which you would like to enjoy. Saw two rooms one with the Pool and the other with Jacuzzi. Opted for the second one. Again negotiations started.

Final offer as per the room - 160 USD 90 minutes for the Jacuzzi and 200 USD 90 minutes My reply - (After the calculations) 140 USD 90 minutes 2 Girls for Jacuzzi room. And the deal was sealed. Now it was the Show time.

He lined up the available girls. Almost 8-9 girls were there with all the shape in and sizes. Choose Fifi and Miss X (Don't know remember the name).

Then made the payment and I was directed to the room with the beauties standing at the door with a welcome smile. Once we entered the door was locked and we hugged each other and the all the naughtiness begin. We all got undressed and where on the bed DFK with both one by one. That was time I felt I am in heaven. Playing with all the melons they have, Fingering deep inside while Pressing others melon and DFK with one of them. Felt like all my Senses are so busy!

Then after 10 minutes Fifi asked me to lie down so that they give some massage and CBJ as well. Before this I had to Choose from both with whom I would like to bang first. I choose Miss X over Fifi as later was the best and wanted to keep the best for the best ending. So the Massage started a basic dry massage. Miss X started the CBJ. It was nice and deep asked her to do the 69 which she obliged and asked Fifi to come close to my hand so that I can do some fingering. We all were hot with pumping heart so it was time to move on to the next step. So asked Miss X to start with WOT and then Miss. And ended in Doggy. I did asked them to kiss each other, the offer was declined softly. They don't like doing it with each other.

Next round of Massage was about begin I asked for the Beer (which is included in the Package) Had some sips and I was playing with them, which they also enjoyed. We were almost at the half time. They said they will complete the massage first. Nice 15-20 minutes of Massage Back and legs with the cream and they cleaned me with towel. Now this was Fifi's time take over for CBJ. Oh my this was much better then last one. And Miss X was close to me and was playing with her tight hole making her wet again. Asked Fifi to be WOT. She has very tight and had some special skills to hold my jonny between her legs. Then came in Miss position while enjoying her melons.

It was the time for enter the Jacuzzi. They Cleaned me bubbly soap and we had good time there as well. Wiped ourself and got dress for the final goodbye Kiss.

The Overall experience was absolutely heavenly and I was nicely pampered through out.

So the crux of the Riverview spa:

Damages 140 USD for 2 girls 90 minutes in Jacuzzi Room.

Package includes: Local Beer Bottle and Small fruit plate (which I didn't touched! Massage with cream B2 be, 1 Shots with 2 Girls each. Jacuzzi Cleaning. Clean Room with Clean Towels and 2 Packets for the deed.

Some More Info. : They to take USD as well but the change s given in IDR only. Make sure you know the Exchange rates of your currency its easier to calculate the damages in your local currency. And lastly try to be close the deal close to the exchange rate as per the Rates offered at the Authorize counter. Although they won't give you the exact rate but try to bring him close to it so that you don't lose while taking the change in IDR.

Regards,

T.

[TiaMoman]

Tips which I used and helped me to save money while traveling to Bali.

1. Carry USD or UK. Easily exchanged.

2. Exchange at the authorized counters ONLY. (Like BMC) - There are shops and some local establishment they offer very attractive rates but they charge a bomb as commission. They trick you by diverting with some thing and hand over less currency / IDR. (This was about to happen to me but I got saved with my alertness).

3. Buying a Local SIM card: Buy it from the Convenient stores like Coco Market / M-Mart / Alpha Mart / Circle K outlets which are almost open 24 hrs they give you good rate with good Data Pack. Do not buy it at Hardy's mall in Sanur. He charges 300 k for the SIM and 2 GB data. Telkomsel is the best service provider. 4 GB is good for 15 days of full usage (Data surfing, Google Maps, Whatsapp and other Social Media apps) (Frankly speaking you might NOT need Calling minutes including in the SIM as most of the Tourist Bali Drivers are on Whatsapp and you can Call / Message through that.) No identification needed to buy the SIM Card. Don't leave the place, before you have received the confirmation SMS of activation. (Local's can correct me on this or add some more details to it).

4. Download My Blue Bird Taxi App Which works efficiently. These are Metered Taxis so no issues getting into Negotiation on the road like with the other local taxis which are look a like the Blue bird and goes with the name of Bali Taxis. They ask any amount for a short distance.

5. Carry medicines from your home especially for the Stomach related issues. Drinking Water has to be bought from the above mentioned Convenient stores.

6. Packet, Cigarettes, Beers and many more things can be bought from mentioned stores.

7. While walking on the streets there will be locals will keep you asking for Ladies, Massage, and Drugs. Ignore all of them. Its Risky job and it might end you up in trouble.

8. Walking on the Famous street of Jl. Legian Kaja where there is Sky garden and Paddy's Pub is there, There are FL / WG waiting for the customers once you cross they will start the offer with massage and other FS. If you plan to take try to Negotiate hard or just walk off. (if taking her Make sure you are not carrying many valuables or loads of cash).

9. There are WG / FL sitting in Paddy's Pub outer section facing road. You can choose from them as well. WG are in plenty in Sky Garden ground and first floor (You need that eye to look for it!) Entry for the Sky Garden is 150 K with 2 beers.

10. All the activity starts post 12:30 1 am you can find many road side pick ups and the Pubs are full by this time as well.

11. Poppies I and II Lanes. Nothing much activity is happening now a days.

[Ryo Saeba]

My second time in the Island of the Gods, 21 days in August, 10 of which in Seminyak.

All opinions and comments reflect and are the result of:
1- me being a tourist in town for a few days only, no Bahasa spoken
2- my own preferences: slim girls with a pretty face and a cheerful disposition

After careful research and planning, before departure I made up my mind that I would rely on spa/massage joints and maybe freelancers for paid sex, and hopefully Tinder for regular girls.
I ended up using only one spa and Tinder, both to my satisfaction, and no freelancers at all.


BARS AND CLUBS IN KUTA

CRUSOE
Stepped inside once around 00.30 am, didn't see any girl at all, stepped right out.

SKYGARDEN
I went there only once, towards the end of my holiday, with the idea to pursue something only if I saw a stunner and if I could strike a good price.
The biggest group of available ladies was easily identifiable: on the lowest floor, at the entrance of the club, in front of the bar.
I didn't see anyone better looking than the girls I had already slept / has sex with, so I gave them all a pass.


SPA / MASSAGE JOINTS
I had collected all the available info on a number of them, such as Onasis, Pelangi, Zona, Sriya and so on, but my first stop was Riverview Spa, and felt I didn't need to look any further.

RIVERVIEW SPA
There are some mixed reviews here on ISG about this place, but my overall experience, repeated three times, was very positive.
Quiet location, a nice entrance with a proper reception desk, professional looking cashier and papasan: the first impression was good.
Cost for 90 minutes with 1 girl: 1.054.000 Rupiah (1 beer included), so actually less than some rates mentioned here, which seemed to have ballooned out my price range.
Lineups of 10 to 15 girls, of which in my opinion only 2 or 3 each time were worth my money, but that's my opinion, and anyway 1 is enough (each time I only chose 1 girl, skipping the double option).
Rooms very nice, just like you see them on their website.

Once in the room, your time is divided in 3 stages of roughly equal length: massage, sex, and jacuzzi.
The massage was always quite good, didn't feel at all like a perfunctory part of the deal, and the final bit of it is a kind of nuru style with the girl, oiled, sliding up and down your body.
The jacuzzi part, I found it to be more enjoyable and relaxing than I thought, with the girls still very playful and chatty and dedicated to your full satisfaction: an extra massage here, a caress there, some more kissing, and so on.

As for the girls and sex.
The first one, which I actually repeated with on my second visit, was Gee, fresh from Bandung. If you dont mind a burn scar on the left side of her torso, she's young, slim and lovely. Covered BJ, which is not good, but she made up for it with some serious dedication to French kissing.
Open to all positions, and both times took a hard pounding in stride.

The other girl, whose name I failed to note and have since forgotten, was a little older, Balinese according to her, a lot of tattoos. Again slim but with bigger boobs, and very good at pleasuring a man: allowed a little spanking, then actively went for BBBJ, deepthroat, and ended with CIM.

Each time I tipped them 100.000 rupiahs for good service, and they were thankful.

http://www.riverviewspabali.com


TINDER
In case you're not familiar with Tinder, you can google all the info you need about it, and give it a go yourself: I certainly won't try to explain it to you.
I will only say that I normally use it at home in Italy where I live, and that it has provided me with a reliable and very diverse source of extra dates.
I have never used it to meet with those escorts who occasionally post on it, nor did I do so during my holiday.

I started to swipe 15 days before getting to Seminyak, and in the course of six weeks I checked on about 900 girls, and found that:
A- 95% of Tinder girls live either in Denpasar or in the Jimbaran-Canggu stretch of coast.
B- in Bali they can be roughly divided into 7 main categories:

- regular Indonesian girls on the island for short stints (for business or a quick holiday with friends or a wedding and so on), therefore not necessarily looking to match with someone in Bali: even if do you match with them, the time factor and their previous engagements make it very difficoult to successfully arrange a date.

- regular foreign tourists: hit or miss, success depending on too many variables.

- Muslim ladies looking for marriage: if youre interested.

- ladyboys: if that's your thing.

- prostitutes very open about being on Tinder looking for customers, mentioning payment and/or posting their phone number. None of them appeared to be Balinese, and my impression was that on average their English was very limited.
If you go that route, it would appear to be the easiest and most straightforward way to get laid using Tinder.

- girls who present themselves as regular, but who at some point during the message exchange will come clean asking for money or some sort of indirect compensation, like an absurd amount of cash for a much cheaper transportation: on average they seem a little upper class, a little better looking than the previous category, but if I opted to meet with one of them I would also want to clarify in advance what services does she exactly provide

- regular girls and ladies living in Bali, some of them actually Balinese, about half of them with children, using Tinder the regular way: in my experience they are quite open to chat and meet.

So how did I do?
Of the roughly 50 matches I got, in 14 cases the chatting led to a phone number exchange, end I met with 4. I could have probably met with 2 or 3 more, but distance or other engagements on my part made it impossible to pursue every girl.

My 4:
- one (Sumatran living in Bali) was very tall and quite pretty but her English nonexistent, so I ended our date rather quickly.

- one (Balinese) was a little rounder than I like them, but with a very pretty face and a fantastic smile. 26 years old and single, works for an international company, has travelled extensively outside Indonesia, and speaks excellent English.
I offered her dinner, but after that we went to both Motel Mexicola and La Favela and she paid for her own drinks. We didn't go beyond kisses, and couldn't meet again, but as a standalone date it was great.

- one (foreign tourist) I matched with while in Ubud and spent 3 days and nights with her, which was good since, as most of you know, Ubud and the immediate surroundings are free of any paid sex options.

- one (Javanese living in Bali) was in her early 20s, slim and relatively fair skinned, with a serious job, spoke good English. I paid for dinner and drinks on our first date and we had sex that same night. Then I told her I would like to see her again, but couldn't afford to pay for everything, and she was ok with that. I saw her 2 more times, another evening and a full day on the beach, and she paid for her own. Weirdly enough, she didn't French kiss at all, but had no problems with blow jobs, handcuffs, even a bit of soft anal sex. Go figure!


ACCOMODATION
I opted for Seminyak Square Hotel, which:
- is located very close to the beach and the shops and more importantly to many of the trendy bars, restaurants and clubs of the Seminyak area. La Favela, Motel Mexicola, Potato Head, Ku De Ta, La Lucciola, Mamasan, Bistrot, Revolver Espresso... all these establishments can easily be reached on foot, and just as many are a quick mototaxi ride away.
- is girlfriendly
- has in-room private safe and good wi-fi

Around 900.000 rupiahs a night for the deluxe room (booked long in advance)
http://www.seminyaksquarehotel.com


VITAMINS
I relied on the Kimia Farma chain of chemists to get the official goods, even though the prices seemed a bit on the expensive side
CIALIS: about 450k rupiahs for a pack of 2 (?? mg)
VIAGRA: about 900k rupiahs for a pack of 4 (100 mg)


So, is Bali a worthy mongering destination?
To anyone who takes the time to do some basic research ahead (here or anywhere else on the net) it should be obvious that Bali is NOT the place to go if fucking is priority #1, or for those guys who are on holiday with their regular partner and want some easily accessible side distraction.

It does offer p4p options, but sex is not as readily available as in some other holiday destinations around the world, and anyway it's time consuming: for freelancers you have to stay up until late at night, the naughty massage parlors are not at walking distance from the beach, the X houses in Sanur require GPS coordinates, and so on.

Assuming you are a single tourist on holiday in Indonesia, my recommendation would be to spend at least a couple of days in Jakarta before getting to Bali. The capital is one of those places where you can get sex 24/7 without much effort, and you can easily fuck so many times you'll get friction burns on your dick.
Once happily sedated your lustful needs, you can start your island experience calmer and relaxed, without the self-imposed pressure of having to get laid in the first few hours, giving yourself time to get the ladies you really like, in the settings you are comfortable with.
Here's my Jakarta report http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2084791&viewfull=1#post2084791

As always, a big THANK YOU goes to all the brothers who posted good info during the years, and to those who replied to my public and private messages: your help was invaluable.

Ryo

[Rikiz]

Hi as I informed I have booked a room at abion harmony hotel for this weekend. Would be open to meet up any monhers around here if possible tomorrow and maybe have some fun. Also would appreciate any contacts for a girl to spend the day with. Thank you.

[TimTimGuy]

My second time in the Island of the Gods, 21 days in August, 10 of which in Seminyak. *snip*
a big THANK YOU goes to all the brothers who posted good info during the years, and to those who replied to my public and private messages: your help was invaluable. RyoNice report Ryo!

[Ryo Saeba]

Nice report Ryo!Thank you TTG!, actually some of your reports inspired my first trip to Bali years ago, and I still have some private messages we exchanged back then, in which you kindly took the time to answer me.

You're definitely one the "brothers" I was referring to.

[Rikiz]

Met the wonderful julia and had a quick session as she was expecting someone. Have to say it was really good ans I came within 5 or 10 minutes. Her DFK and fuck is really great. Planning on visiting her once again later to go for it for longer. Thank you for the info guys. Also planning ti hit some x houses. Would appreciate if any other contacts AR available.

[Aussie Fella]

Day 3.

She was bit surprised to know that how come I know her name and she also enquired that did I mentioned anything about her services to the neighbouring shops. I said of course not. First off. Great FRs. Thanks very much for posting. They're well written, informative and useful.

Out of interest, when she asked how you knew her name, what did you say? Obviously no-one is going to tell her that we read her name here, but she must be wondering given how many blokes traipse up to her little spa for a 'massage'. Also, 250 k for all that is a fantastic deal. I'm hoping to be in Sanur in about 5 weeks so I'll have to go and see her.

[TiaMoman]

First off. Great FRs. Thanks very much for posting. They're well written, informative and useful.

Out of interest, when she asked how you knew her name, what did you say? Obviously no-one is going to tell her that we read her name here, but she must be wondering given how many blokes traipse up to her little spa for a 'massage'. Also, 250 k for all that is a fantastic deal. I'm hoping to be in Sanur in about 5 weeks so I'll have to go and see her.Hey,

I just told her a good friend of mine from Singapore helped me to locate you, to this she did asked his name I just took a common name in from Singapore. And it worked! May be you should try this with a different close by countries from where the tourists frequently visit her. And try not to get in to details much by diverting her by appreciating her beauty. And go ahead with the deed.

Regards.

[BushRusher]

Tips which I used and helped me to save money while traveling to Bali.

2. Exchange at the authorized counters ONLY. (Like BMC) - There are shops and some local establishment they offer very attractive rates but they charge a bomb as commission. They trick you by diverting with some thing and hand over less currency / IDR. (This was about to happen to me but I got saved with my alertness).

3. Buying a Local SIM card: Buy it from the Convenient stores like Coco Market / M-Mart / Alpha Mart / Circle K outlets which are almost open 24 hrs they give you good rate with good Data Pack. Do not buy it at Hardy's mall in Sanur. He charges 300 k for the SIM and 2 GB data. Telkomsel is the best service provider. 4 GB is good for 15 days of full usage (Data surfing, Google Maps, Whatsapp and other Social Media apps) (Frankly speaking you might NOT need Calling minutes including in the SIM as most of the Tourist Bali Drivers are on Whatsapp and you can Call / Message through that.) No identification needed to buy the SIM Card. Don't leave the place, before you have received the confirmation SMS of activation. (Local's can correct me on this or add some more details to it).FWIW, someone else mentioned the short changing. I found some restaurants will change and the cashiers don't play hide and seek and palm money. Most are better than hotel rates and sometimes better than ATM rates.

Also, someone else mentioned getting SIMs Telekomsil (fairly inexpensively and then loading with data. I usually get the one month plan and the base SIM has cost me from 15 K to 300 K depending on purchasing location. Some of the hotel Internet really suck so I expense it as a backup nowadays. Just my 2 cents.

[Loose Cannon]

With the impending volcanic eruption of mount aging, is it safe to plan a holiday in the month of November? I intend to visit Bali and adjoining islands. Bros in Bali currently who are aware of ground realities kindly advice. I am more worried about the disruption of flights due to volcanic ash / clouds etc than the danger of lava.

LC.

[Crocodilexp]

With the impending volcanic eruption of mount aging, is it safe to plan a holiday in the month of NovemberNobody can answer a simple "yes" or "no" to that.

The volcano has heightened activity, probably signalling imminent eruption. It might erupt tomorrow, it might erupt next week, it might erupt in November while you're there, it might not erupt at all.

Tourist areas (Kuta, Sanur etc) are relatively far, about 50-70km from Mount Agung, so the main hazard there is earthquakes. If the volcano does erupt, ash fall is a major hazard, and all flights are likely to be suspended for a while. Even in case of eruption, it's highly unlikely you'll die or get injured, but your holiday might be a mess or you might not be able to reach Bali at all.

If you're going it might be a good idea to get travel insurance, BUT be careful and read the fine print carefully, the weasels sometimes exclude "known hazards" at the time you got it, and high probability of volcanic eruption was known since September 15th or so.

[Loose Cannon]

Nobody can answer a simple "yes" or "no" to that.

The volcano has heightened activity, probably signalling imminent eruption. It might erupt tomorrow, it might erupt next week, it might erupt in November while you're there, it might not erupt at all.

Tourist areas (Kuta, Sanur etc) are relatively far, about 50-70km from Mount Agung, so the main hazard there is earthquakes. If the volcano does erupt, ash fall is a major hazard, and all flights are likely to be suspended for a while. Even in case of eruption, it's highly unlikely you'll die or get injured, but your holiday might be a mess or you might not be able to reach Bali at all.

If you're going it might be a good idea to get travel insurance, BUT be careful and read the fine print carefully, the weasels sometimes exclude "known hazards" at the time you got it, and high probability of volcanic eruption was known since September 15th or so.Agree and point taken. I can only wait and monitor the situation. Thanks for you suggestions on the travel insurance. I will keep that also in mind.

LC.

[SlowAndEasy]

My second time in the Island of the Gods, 21 days in August, 10 of which in Seminyak.

ACCOMODATION
I opted for Seminyak Square Hotel, which:
- is located very close to the beach and the shops and more importantly to many of the trendy bars, restaurants and clubs of the Seminyak area. La Favela, Motel Mexicola, Potato Head, Ku De Ta, La Lucciola, Mamasan, Bistrot, Revolver Espresso... all these establishments can easily be reached on foot, and just as many are a quick mototaxi ride away.
- is girlfriendly
- has in-room private safe and good wi-fi

Around 900.000 rupiahs a night for the deluxe room (booked long in advance)
Thanks for the great information. Was the Seminyak Square Hotel girl friendly?

[SurfDoggy]

Hello everybody,

How to get to Julia?

Many thanks.

[Stykler]

Hello everybody,

How to get to Julia?

Many thanks.After one post you ask this question.

Good luck!

[SurfDoggy]

Hello everybody,

My favorite is Grahady spa, massage & Karaoke.

When you get to the property, go through and the massage building on the far right.

You can choose girls in photos.

Most of the time, I'm fond of thin girls, so far I've always been lucky.

Should it not fit times, then I change.

An hour Massge is about 150 - 200 depending on the relationship.

In the room everything is possible, a good blowjob without condom is about 400.

Full service also possible.

Have fun.

P.S. I'm still looking for Julia or other pretty young girls for a short time: the.

[Manfield04]

After paying IDR 250,000, you can get her.


Hello everybody, How to get to Julia? Many thanks.

[Empire1]

Hello everybody,

How to get to Julia?

Many thanks.You RTTF and use the search function. So much as been said about her over the past 6 months.

BTW I think Julia is great. But, she is not slim nor is she young. I'm shocked when she gets rated more than 5/10 for her body. However, she sure is a hell of a lot of fun and passionate.

[Ceegee]

Seems like the volcano could actually be a benefit for those who are already on the ground in Bali. Girls who do babysitting, massage, tour guides or anything else for all the tourists are complaining that people are cancelling trips and Bali is very quiet. They still have bills to pay and are turning to the world's oldest profession to make ends meet. Popping up on the various apps, and willing to negotiate, it seems to be a buyers market at the moment. I typical get opening offers of 1 million, but I tell them that is too much and the price drops quickly from there.

Looking at the pictures of one girl, I was sure she was an office type girl with a regular paying job and she was going to get offended if I offered cash for some time alone in my hotel room, but of course I made the offer anyway. Not offended, all good but she asked for 800 and wants me to go to her place. I passed, lots of other babysitters willing to come to my hotel for 400 now.

[SummerTime1985]

Hi,

Going to Bali from 15th to 22nd Nov. For a week.

Thinking of splitting days into Bali and Gili islands.

Looking for cheap and clean girl friendly hotels. Mostly looking for hotel where I can a FL guest with me for overnight. I read lots of reports which got confused me on choosing hotel. And I see there is no action at gili islands.

Please recommend some cheap, clean hotels in Bali. Kuta legian area.

Thanks in advance.

[Ceegee]

Just book any hotel online, they are not going to tell you that you cannot bring your 'girlfriend' in. Especially if you are looking for cheap, that is what they are used for anyway.


Hi,

Going to Bali from 15th to 22nd Nov. For a week.

Thinking of splitting days into Bali and Gili islands.

Looking for cheap and clean girl friendly hotels. Mostly looking for hotel where I can a FL guest with me for overnight. I read lots of reports which got confused me on choosing hotel. And I see there is no action at gili islands.

Please recommend some cheap, clean hotels in Bali. Kuta legian area.

Thanks in advance.

[Pullings]

Hi people,

I am going to Bali in March. What would be the best way to meet girls? I heard that shopping malls are a good place to get phone numbers?

What do you mean exactly by babysitters? How and where to meet them?


I passed, lots of other babysitters willing to come to my hotel for 400 now.Thank you for your help!

Dan.

[Pullings]

Hi people!

I am going to Bali in March '18. I have got a few questions:

-how easy is it generally to find girls.

-what are the best places? I heard that shopping malls are a good place to meet locals?

-what about these babysitters that are mentioned earlier in this thread? How and where to find rhem?

Thank you for your answers!

Dan.

[Rob Jones]

Hi people,

I am going to Bali in March. What would be the best way to meet girls? I heard that shopping malls are a good place to get phone numbers?

What do you mean exactly by babysitters? How and where to meet them?

Thank you for your help!

Dan.Hi Pullings,

The best way to meet girls in Bali are at the bars and clubs. You are going in March then I would recommend that you go on Badoo and / or Tagged (Hi 5 in some places) and make some contacts there. If you go on these sites earlier you will get the " long time" . On these sites you will meet hookers, girls looking for husbands and girls from other parts of Indo on holiday looking for a quick no strings fuck that they wouldn't dream of doing in there home town. I have half assed tried the shopping mall thing but with no luck but to be fair being half pissed probably didn't help LOL, but on that note instead of hitting on the shoppers try the shop assistants. I have seen some of the looks I get in the department stores but on those occasions I have been with my wife who has no sense of humor regarding me hitting on other women.

Are you after a babysitter for kids? I have organised reliable babysitters thru the hotel either by using an agency or sometimes there staff, the Indos love kids, and I have also used a GF of a guy selling tours at the front of our unit once buy that was for an older child who had a phone and we were only gone for about 2 hours. I wouldn't try hiring a babysitter with the intention of sleeping with her as usually they are only older kids themselves.

Enjoy Bali.

Rob.

[Rob Jones]

Hi people!

I am going to Bali in March '18. I have got a few questions:

-how easy is it generally to find girls.

-what are the best places? I heard that shopping malls are a good place to meet locals?

-what about these babysitters that are mentioned earlier in this thread? How and where to find rhem?

Thank you for your answers!

Dan.Hi Dan,

The best way to meet girls in Bali are at the bars and clubs. You are going in March then I would recommend that you go on Badoo and / or Tagged (Hi 5 in some places) and make some contacts there. If you go on these sites earlier you will get the " long time" . On these sites you will meet hookers, girls looking for husbands and girls from other parts of Indo on holiday looking for a quick no strings fuck that they wouldn't dream of doing in there home town. I have half assed tried the shopping mall thing but with no luck but to be fair being half pissed probably didn't help LOL, but on that note instead of hitting on the shoppers try the shop assistants. I have seen some of the looks I get in the department stores but on those occasions I have been with my wife who has no sense of humor regarding me hitting on other women.

Are you after a babysitter for kids? I have organised reliable babysitters thru the hotel either by using an agency or sometimes there staff, the Indos love kids, and I have also used a GF of a guy selling tours at the front of our unit once buy that was for an older child who had a phone and we were only gone for about 2 hours. I wouldn't try hiring a babysitter with the intention of sleeping with her as usually they are only older kids themselves.

Enjoy Bali.

Rob.

[BobLou]

Thanks Rob.

You have given a very good direction for mongers.

Appreciate your help.

Usually people reply by saying RTFF.

Thanks again.


Hi Dan,

The best way to meet girls in Bali are at the bars and clubs. You are going in March then I would recommend that you go on Badoo and / or Tagged (Hi 5 in some places) and make some contacts there. If you go on these sites earlier you will get the " long time" . On these sites you will meet hookers, girls looking for husbands and girls from other parts of Indo on holiday looking for a quick no strings fuck that they wouldn't dream of doing in there home town. I have half assed tried the shopping mall thing but with no luck but to be fair being half pissed probably didn't help LOL, but on that note instead of hitting on the shoppers try the shop assistants. I have seen some of the looks I get in the department stores but on those occasions I have been with my wife who has no sense of humor regarding me hitting on other women.

Are you after a babysitter for kids? I have organised reliable babysitters thru the hotel either by using an agency or sometimes there staff, the Indos love kids, and I have also used a GF of a guy selling tours at the front of our unit once buy that was for an older child who had a phone and we were only gone for about 2 hours. I wouldn't try hiring a babysitter with the intention of sleeping with her as usually they are only older kids themselves.

Enjoy Bali.

Rob.

[Shuga]

-what about these babysitters that are mentioned earlier in this thread? How and where to find rhem?

Thank you for your answers!

Dan.Jl. Nusa Kambangan seems to be a safe bet, see attached picture.

(If required I can post this twice).

[BushRusher]

Looking at the pictures of one girl, I was sure she was an office type girl with a regular paying job and she was going to get offended if I offered cash for some time alone in my hotel room, but of course I made the offer anyway. Not offended, all good but she asked for 800 and wants me to go to her place. I passed, lots of other babysitters willing to come to my hotel for 400 now.Hmmm. Have to try that approach sometime. Once in private, the girls can be quite playful. Just have to find one will to look after a really old baby with heavy balls!

[Bushes]

Jl. Nusa Kambangan seems to be a safe bet, see attached picture.

(If required I can post this twice).Are you joking? I have had it organized by the hotels but never ended up with a baby sister. That would have been interesting. Usually ended up with more mature ladies.

[Rob Jones]

Thanks Rob.

You have given a very good direction for mongers.

Appreciate your help.

Usually people reply by saying RTFF.

Thanks again.BobLou,

I read the forum all the time and sometimes you just can't find the information you require and we are all "brothers in arms". I don't get away very often to pursue my "sport" and I get enjoyment out of reading some of the other members exploits and I hope by sharing knowledge we will all gain knowledge. I am a little lost regarding the baby sitter angle? Is it for sex or genuine baby sitting duties and if it is for genuine baby sitting I suggest the Bali Travel Forum LOL. If you won't an amateur or 'good girl" try the social media path but in my experience they are not innocent nor (thankfully) that "pure" LOL.

If I have helped get at least on f at ck in Bali I'm happy for you.

Don't forget to post about your trip.

Rob.

[Ceegee]

I think my babysitter comment was taken out of context. What I actually wrote was "Girls who do babysitting, massage, tour guides or anything else for all the tourists". So basically all the girls around that are not just hard core hookers, but do various jobs to make ends meet. They are not above trading sex for money, but they are also not out trawling the bars every night for men to have sex with. One who had ignored my messages for a couple of weeks suddenly had to pay her rent and she was keen to meet. Too late for me to meet her, but she might have found somebody else to pay her rent.

The more time I spent in Indonesia the more blurry the lines between prostitutes and normal girls gets. Some 'normal' girls are very happy to have sex with a foreigner in a hotel room, especially if their privacy is assured. Some of them want money, some just want their travel costs covered, others have jobs (or husbands!) and are not in need of cash so they get offended when even taxi money is offered. I find it a bit of a mine field to navigate, but it sure is fun.

[Bushes]

I think my babysitter comment was taken out of context. What I actually wrote was "Girls who do babysitting, massage, tour guides or anything else for all the tourists". So basically all the girls around that are not just hard core hookers, but do various jobs to make ends meet. They are not above trading sex for money, but they are also not out trawling the bars every night for men to have sex with. One who had ignored my messages for a couple of weeks suddenly had to pay her rent and she was keen to meet. Too late for me to meet her, but she might have found somebody else to pay her rent.

The more time I spent in Indonesia the more blurry the lines between prostitutes and normal girls gets. Some 'normal' girls are very happy to have sex with a foreigner in a hotel room, especially if their privacy is assured. Some of them want money, some just want their travel costs covered, others have jobs (or husbands!) and are not in need of cash so they get offended when even taxi money is offered. I find it a bit of a mine field to navigate, but it sure is fun.Yeah. I agree. I like practical ethics in Indo, regardless of the religion. I am usually generous so there is usually no pre coital financial negotiations. I have had the girls go through the intrusive security interrogation since I have not found a reliable way around it.

[SmokinMojo]

Hi all,

So I have an upcoming trip to Bali in a weeks time. This will be my 5th time in the land of the gods though my first time travelling solo. I am staying for 7 nights in South Kuta. A 40th Bday present from the better half. We have an open relationship. My plan is to surf all day and party all night. So a week ago I began researching girls in Bali. With mixed results and contradicting information. That is untill I came across this forum. I must give you all props for providing practical and straight forward information with personal insight into what I now know to be "Mongering". This is a whole new world to me and to say I am intrigued is an understatement. I have read the last 60 pages with gusto and have learnt so much. Though I have more questions for the group. These will follow. Nice to be on board!

[Rob Jones]

Hi all,

So I have an upcoming trip to Bali in a weeks time. This will be my 5th time in the land of the gods though my first time travelling solo. I am staying for 7 nights in South Kuta. A 40th Bday present from the better half. We have an open relationship. My plan is to surf all day and party all night. So a week ago I began researching girls in Bali. With mixed results and contradicting information. That is untill I came across this forum. I must give you all props for providing practical and straight forward information with personal insight into what I now know to be "Mongering". This is a whole new world to me and to say I am intrigued is an understatement. I have read the last 60 pages with gusto and have learnt so much. Though I have more questions for the group. These will follow. Nice to be on board!I hope you have a good holiday mate. By South Kuta I assume you are meaning around the Discovery Shopping Mall? I have stayed around there regularly over the years and I find the location pretty good. Download Badoo and Tagged (maybe Hi5) in some countries. On these sites you have a mixture of full time professional girls to Indonesian tourist looking for some holiday fun, and everything in between. A week out is a great time to meet girls on these platforms as any longer they either lose interest or "fall in love". Of course you have Paddy's Pub and the Bounty on Jalan Legian and Sky Garden all conveniently located next to each other. There are some upmarket places at Double 6 like Potato Bar and Cocoon Club. Also Legian has quite a few bars to visit. The longest I have been able to be off the leash in Kuta is 3 days and I found it easier for me to meet the girls on line and go from there. I usually go for the non WG and look for girls who want to experience a western guy or who know that a tourist will show them nice restaurants and bars and enjoy the good times.

Another avenue I would like to explore are the girls working in the department stores. I'm mid 50's over weight but I usually get good eye contact when I'm shopping there but I am always got the wife nearby so not a safe option for me LOL.

I hope this helps. Learn some basic Bahasa if you can like Hello, and ordering drinks and terms of endearment as the effort is appreciated and goes a long way.

Have a good time and I'm looking forward to reading your post.

Rob.

[MrSwede]

New to this site. I am going to Padangbai föare diving I February. Is there any action in Padangbai?

[TongueTornedo]

Hi forum,

I and my friends are coming to Bali in few weeks, we are planing girls for mongering for whole night and some time massage in day time,please help me with contact and best places for mongering.

Please PM me.

Thanks for your support in advance.

Tongue Tornedo.

[Sydpat]

Hi forum,

I and my friends are coming to Bali in few weeks, we are planing girls for mongering for whole night and some time massage in day time,please help me with contact and best places for mongering.

Please PM me.

Thanks for your support in advance.

Tongue Tornedo.Hi,

Just subscribed to badoo and log in to wechat and moment you land you will get request to contact them. Standard price for short time 2 hours 2 shots are Rs. 500 K and long time will be 1 million, for massage you can walk down the street and you will find plenty a small seedy massage place to high end professional massage place and also massage are done at your hotel too.

The best place to be Kuta, Legian, Semiyak Sanur, Sanur brothel will be Rp 350 K.

So enjoy your stay and give your report afterwards.

Sydpat.

[Aussie Fella]

Yesterday I visited the famous Julia. It took me a few passes before I found the place as it is very small and you'd miss it if you weren't specifically looking for it. As others have said, it's on Danau Tamblingan approaching the Sindhu Markets. It's on the opposite side of the road as you pass Randy's Cafe and just near (can't remember if it's before or after) the largish organics shop.

My first impression was that she has an attractive face but is far larger than I was expecting. Nevertheless, I went in to give it a go. Right off the bat she told me that she offers happy ending. She asked if someone had referred me but, as I wasn't expecting the question and couldn't think of a good lie quickly, I just said no. Of course she would know that's not true. So we got down to the massage and I was surprised to find that it was actually really good. A lot of rub and tug places are really shit at the 'rub' part because they're really only there to perform the 'tug'. Julia gives a really firm massage which gets into the muscles. A win to start with.

I don't know how long the massage went for, but it was nowhere near an hour. I guess she assumes everyone is there for the happy ending and makes sure she leaves time for that. At the end of the massage she asked if I wanted the happy ending and, of course, I said yes. She said that she offers HJ, BJ and sex. Given I didn't find her body too attractive I wend for the BJ. She was quite playful and went to start if whilst still fully clothed and then asked if I'd like her to take off her dress. I replied that I would and she then said that I had to take charge and she'd do what I told her to so, at my instruction, off came the bra and g-string. Now she was fully naked she came back to the BJ. OMG. She's very good at it. She hadn't been at it all that long when I could feel the pressure building up and, not wanting to blow so quickly, asked her to kiss me. She moved up the bed and started a good DFK. It got quite passionate and she moved to straddle me and grind my cock with her pussy. Of course, the inevitable happened and my cock slid up inside her which felt great but I warned her that I was close to cumming so she got off and moved back down to finish me off in her mouth. It was a very good BJ and one that I'd recommend to anyone.

Once I'd blown she told me to wait on the bed whilst she went to spit and brush her teeth. She then came back naked and lay next to me on the bed for a cuddle and chat which I thought was a really nice touch.

Overall it was a great experience with the only down side for me being that she's too fat for me to find overly attractive. If you're a chubby-chaser and appreciate women with some 'meat on their bones' then this is definitely the lady for you as she will make you feel very, very good.

Cost- 75 k for massage and 250 k for BJ (which I offered, she doesn't really quote a price).

Face- 6/10.

Body- 3/10.

WIR. Probably.

[ThreeLilBirds]

Firstly I must apologize as I have been to Bali 3 times since my last FR in April and I have a few more FR's to write home about.

I have a long Bali stay ahead of me, pretty much all of December so there will be fresh FR's on the way too.

I will be staying all over the Island for a few days at a time, maybe even trek out to Lombok or even Yogya for some touristy things.

PM me if you need / want to catch up for mongering or just a beer!

Planning a few days in Sanur and will be sure to check out plenty of X houses. Was thinking if anyone was interested in a particular one that hasn't been mentioned in a while post it up and I'll see if I can get there and get a FR!

I've taken the liberty of using Barri's Monger map and screen shotting it and adding the names so I can just use it as a picture instead of opening up google-maps every time.

I'll share it here when finished, it may help some people. All credit goes to the original owner of course.

[ThreeLilBirds]

Yesterday I visited the famous Julia.
Face- 6/10.
Body- 3/10.Thanks for the FR and your honesty. I was planning a visit. However regardless of the fantastic GFE and quality of service, I just can't get in the mood with fatties.

[ThreeLilBirds]

Considering I had some good success with Badoo as I previously reported earlier in 2017 and gave my review of the app which was a good one.

Well fast-forward to now and the app has changed considerably. And for the worst. You can no longer let the app use your mobiles' GPS location to 'find who is near' and it only works off the city that you put in as your location. Not to mention there is sweet f. A. Talent on there at the moment.

And Bali Back page is absolutely wall to wall with balls. Trannys all over the place.

Will try out this wechat tomorrow.

[Rob Jones]

Considering I had some good success with Badoo as I previously reported earlier in 2017 and gave my review of the app which was a good one.

Well fast-forward to now and the app has changed considerably. And for the worst. You can no longer let the app use your mobiles' GPS location to 'find who is near' and it only works off the city that you put in as your location. Not to mention there is sweet f. A. Talent on there at the moment.

And Bali Back page is absolutely wall to wall with balls. Trannys all over the place.

Will try out this wechat tomorrow.What a difference a year makes. Last year in Bali I used Badoo with great success but I did all my contacting here in Australia with my location set on Denpasar and I didn't need to bother when I was there as I had solid leads for the 3 days of wife free time I had. I have also used Tagged and it is effective too. My next trip is to Pattaya and I'm having success again with both Badoo and Tagged.

Selamat Hari.

Rob.

[Aussie Fella]

I think we all know about Julia at Chloe Salon now, but I'm wondering if there's any other rub and tug places in Sanur that people would recommend. Previously I went to the one next to 41 x when Shinta was working there but she's given it away now and is basing herself at Sky Garden over in Kuta. Any good tips and applicable prices there would be appreciated.

[Aussie Fella]

I think we all know about Julia at Chloe Salon now, but I'm wondering if there's any other rub and tug places in Sanur that people would recommend. Previously I went to the one next to 41 x when Shinta was working there but she's given it away now and is basing herself at Sky Garden over in Kuta. Any good tips and applicable prices there would be appreciated.So, to try and answer my own question I've tried two places over the past two days with vastly differing results.

First I went to Tantangan which used to be on Danau Poso but is now a short way down a gang on Jl Cemara. I don't remember the name of the lady I had but I'm pretty sure she's the one whose face graces the street signage with a claim that she was a Balinese actress. Hmmmm. Well, it wasn't a great experience. As with many rub and tug places, the massage wasn't the best. I'd say it was below average. When I'm paying for a massage, even if we both know I'm going to want the extra at the end, I expect the massage to be of a decent quality. Otherwise forget the massage and just wank me off! She rushed through the massage and got to the business end. For a HJ she asked 300 k which included the massage price. I figured that was OK and agreed. She slathered enough oil on my dick to run a taxi fleet for a year and then proceeded to furiously jerk away. Yes, I did cum but it was not a particularly happy ending and the whole thing was over and done with within 30 minutes!

Face: 3/10.

Body: I didn't ask her to take anything off as I felt no attraction whatsoever but with clothes on 5/10.

WIR: No.

Then yesterday I decided to go back to Riska Spa / Salon (next to 41 x) even though I know Shinta isn't working there anymore. I was greeted by an older lady named Ilu who still has an attractive face and is slim enough for my tastes. I agreed to go with her and she proceeded to give a top notch massage. To make it better, whilst I was still face down and she was doing the upper leg I arched my back a bit to give her access and she took the cue and spent a bit of time gently caressing balls and between butt cheeks. It was divine and had me rock hard. Eventually she had me turn over and did the other side, concentrating a bit on caressing around the balls. She then asked if I wanted extra and quoted 300 k for a HJ which included the massage price. I asked about a BJ and she quoted 400 k, including the massage price. A pretty good deal to me. She gave a pretty decent BBBJ and wasn't shy about a bit of anal play for extra stimulation, with the only negative being that there was the occasional teeth contact. She didn't offer to remove clothes and I didn't ask but I'm sure that would be available if wanted. It finished with CIM and I left a very happy customer.

Face: 6/10 (always hard to know what rating to give as she's above average for rub and tug ladies in Sanur but not a hottie that would turn your head on the street).

Body: From what I could see with clothes on 6/10.

WIR: Definitely. ASAP!

[ThreeLilBirds]

So this FR comes from back in early August, yes I know it's super-late but one I have to re-cap on as the first visit was memorable.

I had been chomping at the bit to get back to this massage+ place on Bukung Sari since my last report #5232 in April. I walked with gusto up to the front of the place and there were two young girls out the front. As I got closer however my joy soon turned to shock as I did not recognise either of them.

I thought I'd get a simple pedicure to put the feelers out. (I definitely needed one).

Once inside the boss lady appeared from behind some curtains. She wasn't the same one as before either. Ah crap I thought and sat down on the chair to begin proceeding.

The one girl started the foot bath and the other young girl knelt down beside me asking did I want a massage. I played it cool and politely declined.

I asked how long the girls had been working there and they both said one year. (which I knew to be false) but I didn't let on that I knew just yet.

During the pedicure the young girl, who BTW, had a very small frame and super-fantastic tits just waiting to be set free) kept asking me to give her 'a job'. I knew which one I wanted to give her. She said only 60 k for massage from the two girls, Must have been my perceived lack of interest that got her to offer so low. I had to get upstairs to the massage area if there was to be any further negotiations on anything. So I agreed and 15 mins later the pedicure was done and we headed upstairs.

When we got up there, they told me to undress and lie face down. When I did, I took off the pants and jocks in front of them to gauge any interest. They both gasped in shock and turned away which to me says this would be a challenge.

Fast forward. The massage was terrible. Then negotiating extras. These girls couldn't and so they had to call the boss lady in.

This is where she tried extorting me and I had to let her know that I was not a stranger to this establishment and the former costs.

They couldn't tell me where the previous tenants had moved to. Which is a shame.

The boss lady agreed to both girls, touching, but clothed he for 350 k total. Thats as low as I could get her.

Unfortunately for me, the HJ was worth nothing as it was the most lackluster HJ I have ever had.

Both girls totally uninterested, both quite reserved Balinese and would only touch my cock with one hand each. (their non-eating hand).

I kept trying to negotiate to get the girls to get their tits out, but they would have no part of it.

They allowed a fair bit of groping, but not right on the puss. I had to fantasize that they were enjoying it just to get the deed done.

Needless to say, won't be making that mistake again.

(goddamn, I'm going to have to do some serious leg-work to find the last girls that worked there).

Damage: 350 k.

WIR: f no.

[VonderJohn]

Hello everyone,

So I've been reading around the Bali forum and noticed some good action going on. But I'm fairly new to Bali and I'm planning to visit in the coming weeks. A few answers to the below basic questions would be helpful:

1) I'm using Tinder to pick up girls in Bali. I receive so much 'likes' on Tinder everyday from Indonesian / Asian girls than any other location. Is it because I'm a westerner and they prefer western / white men over Asian ones?

2) The Indonesian / Asian girls on Tinder who are upfront and open about going out and dating. Do they do this in hopes of getting money in return? (escorts) or is it the norm there to date, have a ONS, and move on? What should I expect in a date in Bali? That she turns out to be a trans? Or that she wants money? Or simply harmless fun?

3) Beyond Tinder, let's talk about picking up girls on the ground in Bali. What are some top hot spots for picking up girls for dates? (nightclubs, bars, hotel lounges. Etc).

Thank you in advance.

[DonaldDhaka]

Hello fellow mongers,

I have come to Bali today morning for the first time. Kindly share me details info about fun, FS, and all details. I'm particularly interested about mongering in famous Spa like riverview and taking freelancers in my hotel room.

Thanks in advance.

[Pedros Needs]

Hello fellow mongers,

I have come to Bali today morning for the first time. Kindly share me details info about fun, FS, and all details. I'm particularly interested about mongering in famous Spa like riverview and taking freelancers in my hotel room.

Thanks in advance.I think with respect you might need to have made some contribution, not be a first time poster before people give to much information, reasonable that you have to earn information being made freely available on this site.

Pedro.

[Ceegee]

1) I'm using Tinder to pick up girls in Bali. I receive so much 'likes' on Tinder everyday from Indonesian / Asian girls than any other location. Is it because I'm a westerner and they prefer western / white men over Asian ones? Yes, exactly. Often you will see on their profile that they are not interested in asian men. As a white man, you are in high demand and you hold all the cards.



2) The Indonesian / Asian girls on Tinder who are upfront and open about going out and dating. Do they do this in hopes of getting money in return? (escorts) or is it the norm there to date, have a ONS, and move on? What should I expect in a date in Bali? That she turns out to be a trans? Or that she wants money? Or simply harmless fun?
Depends on the girl. Depends on what you want to do. If just want sex and don't want them to hang around, just tell them that, but be prepared to pay. If you are up front about money before you meet them, you might scare a couple away, but there are so many that it is not an issue. If you want to take one out for a nice dinner, you could meet her in a coffee shop first for a coffee to check her out. She might even want to come back to your room after coffee. Make sure she matches her photos, and get a feel for her. 80% of them will be wanting some money, a few might be too shy to say anything. If a good time is had by all, you can always offer some 'taxi money' and she how she reacts. It really is all up to you and how you want to spend your time.

Trannys seem to tell you up front on the dating app if it is not already on their profile. Many have it on their profile, most will admit it pretty quickly because they don't want to waste their time either. Only once out of many many girls coming to my room did a tranny turn up pretending to be a girl. It left sadly disappointed and without a cent.

[Rob Jones]

Hello everyone,

So I've been reading around the Bali forum and noticed some good action going on. But I'm fairly new to Bali and I'm planning to visit in the coming weeks. A few answers to the below basic questions would be helpful:

1) I'm using Tinder to pick up girls in Bali. I receive so much 'likes' on Tinder everyday from Indonesian / Asian girls than any other location. Is it because I'm a westerner and they prefer western / white men over Asian ones?

2) The Indonesian / Asian girls on Tinder who are upfront and open about going out and dating. Do they do this in hopes of getting money in return? (escorts) or is it the norm there to date, have a ONS, and move on? What should I expect in a date in Bali? That she turns out to be a trans? Or that she wants money? Or simply harmless fun?.Hi John,

I haven't used Tinder at all anywhere in the world but I have used apps like Badoo and Tagged with success in Bali. The girls do prefer "bule" over Indonesian guys due to many reasons mostly income based. Some will want money because they are hookers or supplementing low wages and some will be happy with the experience and good times you show them. Ladyboys are usually upfront. Any bars around Kuta, Legian and Seminyak will have plenty of girls. Also don't be shy to approach girls in shopping centres etc. Particular if they are making eye contact with you.

Have fun and write a report.

Rob.

[VonderJohn]

Yes, exactly. Often you will see on their profile that they are not interested in asian men. As a white man, you are in high demand and you hold all the cards.

Depends on the girl. Depends on what you want to do. If just want sex and don't want them to hang around, just tell them that, but be prepared to pay. Thank you Ceegee, and also an equal thank to Rob Jones. From what you guys said, here is my conclusion:

1) Do not hesitate to approach Asian girls in Bali, wherever you may find them, since they would be open to going out with you as a non-Asian guy. You just have to be upfront and decent.

2) Most of the girls go for dating driven by money-related reasons, and expect a westerner to be able to provide this. Yet it doesn't have to be 'prostitution style' I. E: let's have sex and I pay you for it. It can simply be an invitation for a fancy dinner, in a fancy place, along with a decent / sweet / enjoyable treatment. It may end up in sex, it may not, it all depends.

3) Use Badoo and Tagged for better chances than Tinder.

That being said, I guess Bali deserves a whole month of a vacation stay, otherwise I'd be missing out LOL.

[Rob Jones]

Thank you Ceegee, and also an equal thank to Rob Jones. From what you guys said, here is my conclusion:

1) Do not hesitate to approach Asian girls in Bali, wherever you may find them, since they would be open to going out with you as a non-Asian guy. You just have to be upfront and decent.

2) Most of the girls go for dating driven by money-related reasons, and expect a westerner to be able to provide this. Yet it doesn't have to be 'prostitution style' I. E: let's have sex and I pay you for it. It can simply be an invitation for a fancy dinner, in a fancy place, along with a decent / sweet / enjoyable treatment. It may end up in sex, it may not, it all depends.

3) Use Badoo and Tagged for better chances than Tinder.

That being said, I guess Bali deserves a whole month of a vacation stay, otherwise I'd be missing out LOL.Hi John,

You will need a holiday from your holiday after 4 weeks. LOL I haven't used Tinder anywhere so I can't say whether it is better then Badoo and Tagged so use all 3. Another tip is to learn a little Bahasa Indonesian before you go and it will take you a long way. Before you commit to taking the girl for dinner get a feel if she will have sex with you first, I usually try for a morning to early afternoon meeting and to be honest if I haven't fucked them after 1 hour I don't take them anywhere. If I have met the girl online before I get to Bali they will know my expectations. If you are staying for 4 weeks you will have plenty of fish to fry my friend. If you are going to be there around Christmas and New Year look out for girls from other islands, usually Java, who are on holidays, they will be curious about meeting westerners and you will score well.

Thanks,

Rob.

[VonderJohn]

Hi John,
Before you commit to taking the girl for dinner get a feel if she will have sex with you first, I usually try for a morning to early afternoon meeting and to be honest if I haven't fucked them after 1 hour I don't take them anywhere. If I have met the girl online before I get to Bali they will know my expectations.
Rob.How exactly would someone "get a feel" if she wants to have sex or not, without being too blunt about it? In other words, I don't want to be straightforward in this and ask: "We go for dinner then we have sex OK? As it sounds too prostitution-like and cheap, at least this is how she would perceive it. Second, it would trigger the "conservative" side of some of the girls who would go like "I'm not into one night stands, thanks!" " if you're looking for sex go find someone else!" or feel offended by merely being asked / hinted about it.

A lot of these girls are not prostitutes or escorts, they simply come from a decent background and are well educated but they're looking for an adventure. But its sometimes challenging to know how to detect the limit of their adventures. Any tips on how to navigate that?

Thanks.

[Goferring]

How exactly would someone "get a feel" if she wants to have sex or not, without being too blunt about it?I frame it as a question about if she is not too shy to be with a foreigner. It's a legitimate question and any Indonesian girl will understand that many inexperienced girls would have reservations about being with or seen with a foreign guy.

Also remember that Indonesians are very comfortable with questions that westerners would consider far too direct and impolite for a new acquaintance. Direct questions regarding race, religion, sexuality etc are considered perfectly acceptable.

[Rob Jones]

How exactly would someone "get a feel" if she wants to have sex or not, without being too blunt about it? In other words, I don't want to be straightforward in this and ask: "We go for dinner then we have sex OK? As it sounds too prostitution-like and cheap, at least this is how she would perceive it. Second, it would trigger the "conservative" side of some of the girls who would go like "I'm not into one night stands, thanks!" " if you're looking for sex go find someone else!" or feel offended by merely being asked / hinted about it.

A lot of these girls are not prostitutes or escorts, they simply come from a decent background and are well educated but they're looking for an adventure. But its sometimes challenging to know how to detect the limit of their adventures. Any tips on how to navigate that?

Thanks.Hi John,

I must admit I am pretty straight forward and I don't have time when I do get my "alone" time in Bali to muck around too much. I will flirt outrageously and will imply that sex is going to be on the agenda. I ask questions if it is OK for them to stay out all night and if they like to stay over in my hotel telling them there is room for them, what would they like for breakfast etc. I do a lot of work online before I go so some level of familiarity is created and in some cases I will have naked photos from some of them and also even have a video sex session with them.

The conservative side of the Indo girl is usually when in public where kissing, hugging and even hand holding is considered impolite, but in private these girls are more progressive.

I think the best solution is to just ask what you want to know and they will tell you, they will openly discuss their menstrual cycle which doesn't happen in the west, and unless you are looking for the love of your life don't worry if you offend as there are plenty out there.

Have fun.

Rob.

[Rob Jones]

I frame it as a question about if she is not too shy to be with a foreigner. It's a legitimate question and any Indonesian girl will understand that many inexperienced girls would have reservations about being with or seen with a foreign guy.

Also remember that Indonesians are very comfortable with questions that westerners would consider far too direct and impolite for a new acquaintance. Direct questions regarding race, religion, sexuality etc are considered perfectly acceptable.The other thing is that if they are on Tinder, Badoo, Tagged or any other online dating service they either know what they want sexually or are open to experiment otherwise they wouldn't have their profile online. In Bali they are exposed to westerners regularly and know that many single men are on the hunt so they know what to expect.

[Eszpresszo]

The other thing is that if they are on Tinder, Badoo, Tagged or any other online dating service they either know what they want sexually or are open to experiment otherwise they wouldn't have their profile online. In Bali they are exposed to westerners regularly and know that many single men are on the hunt so they know what to expect.An excellent point that makes perfect sense. I will bear that in mind, as I'm planning to visit in March. To be honest I was dubious of these apps because what I've seen on them locally are some really scary women. And I live in a city known for its good looking (but high maintenance) women. I had to wonder if these apps were places for the local trailer trash and ghetto bitches to hook up. I am assuming the selection on these apps is going to be different in Asia? I notice a lot of guys here talk favourably about using dating and hookup apps.

[Pedros Needs]

Many methods, if you don't have wee chat you need to download the app as they will contact you or you can find by searching near by, just need be cautious as many that contact you will be ladyboys.

I also have a number of business cards with me with my local phone number written on it, if I get I contact or see a stunner I will give a card AMD say contact me if you would like to meet on your day off, from ID say 6 give away 4 have come up trumps.

Fair to say most realize you didn't intend to meet for a coffee, my approach to be certain they know that is to ask do you have a Kost (room) we can meet in or should I book a room, that makes it all pretty clear then.

Got to love Bali.

Pedro.

[Rob Jones]

An excellent point that makes perfect sense. I will bear that in mind, as I'm planning to visit in March. To be honest I was dubious of these apps because what I've seen on them locally are some really scary women. And I live in a city known for its good looking (but high maintenance) women. I had to wonder if these apps were places for the local trailer trash and ghetto bitches to hook up. I am assuming the selection on these apps is going to be different in Asia? I notice a lot of guys here talk favourably about using dating and hookup apps.Hi Eszpresszo,

I live in Australia and I haven't used any of these apps locally as I find it easier and more convenient to use hookers when I feel the need for a different pussy other then the wife's. I'm sure on all of the apps in any country there are "trailer trash" and crazy girls, met 1 Islamic Jihadist who was looking to cut off some infidels head first chance she got, as well that's why I will use a 1 to 2 month vetting period before I arrive so I have my girls lined up and I'm not wasting time when I'm on the ground. I have had success using this method in Bali and I will be in Thailand for the first time in February and I have just started to look at putting a team together for my week there.

Good luck in Bali.

Rob.

[Empire1]

Today I had the pleasure of visiting Village Arum Day Spa in Sanur for the first time. I had seen from other posters that this place existed, but just never got the vibe to go there, Now I wish I had earlier.

This little pace is pretty easy to find. At the top end of Sanur, on Jl. Danau Tandakan or Jl. Panti Sindu (depending on which map you look at) , close to the by-pass and right next door to the well known Kayu Manis restaurant.

I found this to be a great massage+ spa. The rooms pretty clean, and the VIP room I paid an extra 25 K for was very dark, but OK.

The SPA has a decent massage menu of massages to choose from and you instantly know its a rub and tug place. So, I took the 90 min oil massage, and it was a lot of oil, and choose the VIP room just for a bit of extra privacy. I had a shower (almost in the complete dark) and got ready.

Not only was I surprised about the quality of the massage, but the touching started almost immediately. With lots of ass and ball rubbing while I was on my stomach. Which lasted for a good 40 minutes. So I was hard in no time. And she was ok with my rubbing her legs and ass during the massage too.

So when I turned over, it was on. She gave a really HJ, with ball and ass rubbing and she kept blowing on my cock at the same time. Needless to say, I did not last that long.

After I exploded and she cleaned me up, then the rest of the massage continued, and it finished with a really decent head massage (The top head LOL).

During the massage she kept her clothes on, but I will be back and see if she is open to more.

I have forgotten the girls name that massaged me (It could be Deta I think), she is from East Java, 27 years old and about 50 kg, quite slime and cute, said she is divorced and has a kid. Quite friendly and it was a most enjoyable time.

Damage 250 K + 100 K tip (yep it was that good).

Looks 7/10.

Body 7.5/10 (from what I could see and feel).

WIR Yes. Probably tomorrow.

[VonderJohn]

Thank you all for the feedback and tips. Two quotations, one from Rob and another from Pedros are specifically important and useful for everyone to follow:

"My approach to be certain they know that is to ask do you have a Kost (room) we can meet in or should I book a room, that makes it all pretty clear then".

Discussing room-related issues early sure sends the right signal. Will follow this.

"I will use a 1 to 2 month vetting period before I arrive so I have my girls lined up and I'm not wasting time when I'm on the ground".

This is exactly what I'm doing. The problem is, I'm ending up with 20+ girls in less than a month. I'm thinking I should do 2/3 dates a day in order to finish the line up Or how about I book a suite and organize an orgy with the entire line up?

[Rob Jones]

Thank you all for the feedback and tips. Two quotations, one from Rob and another from Pedros are specifically important and useful for everyone to follow:

"My approach to be certain they know that is to ask do you have a Kost (room) we can meet in or should I book a room, that makes it all pretty clear then".

Discussing room-related issues early sure sends the right signal. Will follow this.

"I will use a 1 to 2 month vetting period before I arrive so I have my girls lined up and I'm not wasting time when I'm on the ground".

This is exactly what I'm doing. The problem is, I'm ending up with 20+ girls in less than a month. I'm thinking I should do 2/3 dates a day in order to finish the line up Or how about I book a suite and organize an orgy with the entire line up?John,

The orgy sounds good LOL. If you are up for multiple partners in one day go for it. If you have 20+ time to vet even further on what is good for you whether it be age, chemistry, cost, experience, whatever floats your boat also keep in mind not all girls will come and if you have 20 girls there will be a 25% chance or so that they could be on their period! It's better to have too many and "disappoint" a few then not having enough and disappointing you. When do you hit Bali?

Good luck.

Rob.

[Jjuky]

Anyone have any tips for the most high end hotel that is very girl friendly.

If I want to bring back multiple different girls per day (at night) as well as WeChat girls to arrive to hotel during day.

Prefer an upscale hotel, but hard to find info on this.

Would also prefer good location to be able to reasonably walk to the bars and clubs at night.

[Manfield04]

You can try Four Seasons Resort at Sayan. It is very high end if only you can afford.


Anyone have any tips for the most high end hotel that is very girl friendly.

[Dickster]

After RTFF thought I would give my feedback on this short trip.

Bali takes a little getting use to but if you've travelled at all in SE Asia you'll find it a breeze. Easy to get around and for the most part a cheap destination and there are not many left now for those from the UK.

I approached Bali with a three pronged attack with varying degrees of success. Massage parlours, Bar girl FLs and dating apps Badoo & Tinder.

I'll start with my personal favorite massage places. Now Bali is packed with spas and massage places but if you want something extra you have to search them out, there's a few to choose from.

Sriya Spa in Denpasar. From what I've read this is similar to Riverview. You pick the package, then the girl (or girls) then head to a room. It's not easy to chose which package based on their description. However, my indecision seemed to work in my favor as this prompted a discounted offer. Finally was offered 800 k for 90 minutes with 1 girl, reduced from 950 k. 6 girls on offer and it was an easy choice as 1 girl was easily cuter than the others, petite Javanese called Moira (or close to this), turns out I chose well. She was instantly in to it with lots of sexy eye contact, into the jacuzzi and we disappear into a mass of bubbles and heavy fondling with some decent BBBJ thrown in. Quick shower and on to massage with oil, massage was just moving the oil around and some body sliding, turn over and I get some cold cream sprayed on me, more body sliding and it gets pretty close to penetration which would normally concern me without a cover but by this stage so into it I'm not going to stop. Just a few minutes of this and I can't hold out any longer. She wipes me off and exclaims 'finish'. Now in Bali, once you've come you're done I as learnt pretty quickly. It was not 90 minutes but was over 1 hour, tipped her 100 k. All in all probably the best session of my trip. WIR? Yes.

Village Arum Body Spa, Sanur.

I've been to this place before so knew what to expect. This is a massage place with he but what I like about their massages is they give plenty of attention to the ass, balls and dick throughout, you're practically hard or semi hard for the whole session which builds things up nicely. Masseur is cute enough and slim but keeps cloths on, some touching is allowed but I didn't explore much TBH. I was offered the VIP room with shower for extra 25 k, if that's the VIP room would hate to see the normal rooms! This place is pretty grimey. After the massage I was asked to use the shower across the hall? Didn't I just pay for the VIP shower? OK, there goes your tip! WIR? Maybe but doubt it.

Bali Exotique Spa, Denpasar.

Not easy to find this one, but on google maps as are all these massage places. Arrived to find fairly cute busty girl at reception but scuttled off to find the real receptionist who's English was better. Again offered fairly mixed bag of choices but took the standard package 350 k for 1 hour incl. He. Asked which girl I wanted but only seen 1 who was fine so went with her. Bed on floor set up with shower room and bath, girl came in and stripped before covering me in oil, followed by some body to body including a bizarre nipple to base of my foot rub, first time for that! Plenty of access for me but as usual no kissing. Massage was poor and was well short of 1 hour so again no tip, service was bland. Wasn't thinking I would return here as experience was barely OK until I saw a couple of the other masseuse, I clearly picked the wrong one, I saw 2 others girls who were IMO much sexier, so on the maybe list to see if other girls are better.

Freelancers in Kuta & Sanur.

Don't bother with Sanur, very little here. If you want Aquarium (fish bowl) then Sanur is the place there are loads of them but not my thing, just ask a taxi driver they know them.

Kuta, tried Sky Garden for curiosity, it's an expensive 200 k to enter and it's all very slick with different levels and music. Best room was the live band on the 1st floor, when they stop player some sexy dancers come out on an extended platform, the dancers mingle between dancing sets and I got chatting to some of them and was very interested in one of them but was told by another dancer she has thrush! Fair enough, time to move on thanks for being honest. Not many FL to be had here if any but there were some local girls and foreigners if that's your game. Moved to Paddys almost next door, now here there are plenty of FL options, from locals to African or even a deaf Ladyboy if that's your thing. Most were in the 1 m to 2 m range but negotiations are open of course. I really didn't see anything that great here and got the impression most were there to take advantage of drunk westerners. There maybe a better scene in Seminyak but was long way from my hotel so didn't go.

Dating apps.

Loads of matches. As usual, half don't reply or go no further than Hi. Got 2 offers but in Seminyak and neither party was prepared to travel so that ended. Having put in a fair amount of time in to this was thinking it was all a big waste of time then in last day finally arranged a mid-20's Javanese girl called Ayanna to come over to my hotel 1 m all-in BJ, FS, CIM over 1 hour (doubt that! She arrived late but no big deal and she was as pretty as her pictures if a tad older, and a nice shape too. Nice friendly attitude but on undressing, well. Not quite she kept her mid drift covered due to baby damage, body was not as good as packaging made out, still didn't put me off enough and she was pretty enthusiastic to make up for it, in fact she might well have enjoyed it a bit more than me, that's ok I find that a turn on. As I suspected we finished up in about 40 minutes, at least she offered to stay on but I didn't see the point, I wasn't going to go again so quickly.

So there are options to be had in Bali, great for massage but the rest leaves a bit to be desired depending on your preference of course. I'm not going to rush back that's for sure but if travel tales me out this way again I would return for another 'cheap' trip.

[VonderJohn]

After RTFF thought I would give my feedback on this short trip.

So there are options to be had in Bali, great for massage but the rest leaves a bit to be desired depending on your preference of course. I'm not going to rush back that's for sure but if travel tales me out this way again I would return for another 'cheap' trip.Thank you for a well-written report. You've given us good insight on the choices regarding the massage places. I will use what you said as a reference for sure!

As for the dating apps, my experience was very different in Tinder! I received many likes and matches, and 90% of them wanted to meet and make-out quick. But that was back in October. I guess the timing of your trip wasn't the best. December is a low season and very rainy. That being said, what does everyone think is a good time to go to Bali to fish for some good females (Asians and Europeans)?

[Dirk67]

Freelancers in Kuta & Sanur.

Don't bother with Sanur, very little here. If you want Aquarium (fish bowl) then Sanur is the place there are loads of them but not my thing, just ask a taxi driver they know them.

Kuta, tried Sky Garden for curiosity, it's an expensive 200 k to enter and it's all very slick with different levels and music. Best room was the live band on the 1st floor, when they stop player some sexy dancers come out on an extended platform, the dancers mingle between dancing sets and I got chatting to some of them and was very interested in one of them but was told by another dancer she has thrush! Fair enough, time to move on thanks for being honest. Not many FL to be had here if any but there were some local girls and foreigners if that's your game. Moved to Paddys almost next door, now here there are plenty of FL options, from locals to African or even a deaf Ladyboy if that's your thing. Most were in the 1 m to 2 m range but negotiations are open of course. I really didn't see anything that great here and got the impression most were there to take advantage of drunk westerners. There maybe a better scene in Seminyak but was long way from my hotel so didn't go.
Maybe it's the season, but last time I was at Sky Garden in October, there were dozens of FL on the first floor that usually plays EDM / House and has a DJ on stage, vs. The outdoor rooftop area that plays hip hop / are&be. The FLs were all congregated by the bar and by the bathrooms, all lined up awkwardly in groups of 2-3. If you missed them maybe it was too early (the didn't seem to show up until after 11 pm-midnight) or too late?

[Smoothy]

Maybe it's the season, but last time I was at Sky Garden in October, there were dozens of FL on the first floor that usually plays EDM / House and has a DJ on stage, vs. The outdoor rooftop area that plays hip hop / are&be. The FLs were all congregated by the bar and by the bathrooms, all lined up awkwardly in groups of 2-3. If you missed them maybe it was too early (the didn't seem to show up until after 11 pm-midnight) or too late?How much do those free lancers charge?

[Eszpresszo]

Don't bother with Sanur, very little here. If you want Aquarium (fish bowl) then Sanur is the place there are loads of them but not my thing, just ask a taxi driver they know them.Do you realize your first sentence was contradicted by your second sentence? How can there be very little there in Sanur if there are loads of fishbowls? Loads mongers enjoy fishbowls. Therefore, that would mean if Sanur had loads of fishbowls, there would be loads of monger action there. That's a simple syllogism.

[Questner]

Can anyone please sum up FL venues, time frames and free lance scene in Kuta, Legian and Seminyak areas?

[Dirk67]

How much do those free lancers charge?Based on my recollection, anywhere from 700 k-1. 5 m for ST. I don't usually do LT so I'm not sure about that but I think it can be done for 1-2 m. I didn't partake from here last time as for almost the same money, I can have a much nicer experience at Riverview or some place similar.

[Dirk67]

Do you realize your first sentence was contradicted by your second sentence? How can there be very little there in Sanur if there are loads of fishbowls? Loads mongers enjoy fishbowls. Therefore, that would mean if Sanur had loads of fishbowls, there would be loads of monger action there. That's a simple syllogism.I think he may be referring to quality.

I only tried a fishbowl in Sanur once, and it felt like you were wandering into a collection of abandoned houses, and suddenly a pps appears who takes you to see the girls (2-3 girls available in my case, but I understand there can be more). The room feels pretty dirty, but the girl I got was sweet and actually quite cute, though no stunner.

Amazing that for about the same price (250-350 k, upper end for foreigners or if you can't speak Indo), you can get pretty amazing quality and nicer facilities in Jakarta.

[Dirk67]

This time in Bali, I didn't bother checking out Sky Garden or Sanur, as I found the best value for money (it's all relative) to be the spas, where you don't need to bring girls back to your place and worry about people seeing or theft or any drama, you can pay by credit card, and you can get relatively nice facilities-- at least in the case of Riverview.

I recall Riverview was 1. 3 m for 90 minutes, but that was a year ago. Not sure if prices went up, or if my recollection was wrong, because I checked out Onasis and it was 1. 5 m. Onasis is also much sketchier looking from the outside, and all the taxi drivers know about it-- they would proactively mention it to me as we drive past (like from the airport and such, without any prompting). "Very good spa. Wink wink".

The interesting thing about Onasis is that you select girls from a fishbowl, vs. The girls coming out to line up for you like at Riverview. I picked a girl that was kind of hiding in the back, but she was definitely only one or two out of the 25 girls there that were doable for me.

She ended up being a good choice-- very little English but fun and playful. Decent massage as well.

I'd say between Riverview and Onasis, Riverview definitely wins. Onasis facilities were much older, darker, and dirtier feeling. The valve to turn on the water for the tub was directly on the pipe under the tub behind some broken tiles. It was barely acceptable, and only a slight upgrade from the Sanur fishbowls. I might go back if it was convenient (like a session on the way to the airport, as it's about 10 min away), but otherwise would recommend Riverview.

[Eszpresszo]

I think he may be referring to quality.

I only tried a fishbowl in Sanur once, and it felt like you were wandering into a collection of abandoned houses, and suddenly a pps appears who takes you to see the girls (2-3 girls available in my case, but I understand there can be more). The room feels pretty dirty, but the girl I got was sweet and actually quite cute, though no stunner.

Amazing that for about the same price (250-350 k, upper end for foreigners or if you can't speak Indo), you can get pretty amazing quality and nicer facilities in Jakarta.Thanks for chiming in on that. I could see the OP wasn't being very objective, but I had to point out that glaring contradiction. As I have tentative plans to do Bali, including Sanur in March, I will do my own assessment when that happens.

But, where can you get better a better value at those prices in Jakarta? Members on these forums have said the opposite, that Bali is the value destination.

[Dickster]

Do you realize your first sentence was contradicted by your second sentence? How can there be very little there in Sanur if there are loads of fishbowls? Loads mongers enjoy fishbowls. Therefore, that would mean if Sanur had loads of fishbowls, there would be loads of monger action there. That's a simple syllogism.I was referring to FLs only, not mongering in general.

[Kodja]

Some time ago I read there was a raid on this spa and I presume they closed down afterwards. Has anyone been there recently? Is it still operating as in the past?

[Eszpresszo]

I was referring to FLs only, not mongering in general.Thanks for clarifying that. I wasn't trying to be contentious. But, as someone looking for precisely that kind of intelligence from someone on the ground, it was a confusing statement. But, at least it gave me a chance to use a syllogism. First time in a long time since my Logic 101 class back in college.

[PayForIt]

Some time ago I read there was a raid on this spa and I presume they closed down afterwards. Has anyone been there recently? Is it still operating as in the past?Have 3 days only in Bali on stopover to Perth. Having read several pages of this forum I see that Riverview was popular but was concerned to read about the raid and I too wonder if its closed. Rather than making a wasted journey. Also, other than this one and Onasis (great review Dirk67) are there any others were there is a line up (whether in fishbowl or not)? Many thanks to any senior members of this forum who reply.

[Roger Sideways]

Have 3 days only in Bali on stopover to Perth. Having read several pages of this forum I see that Riverview was popular but was concerned to read about the raid and I too wonder if its closed. Rather than making a wasted journey. Also, other than this one and Onasis (great review Dirk67) are there any others were there is a line up (whether in fishbowl or not)? Many thanks to any senior members of this forum who reply.Riverview and Onassis still trading as usual. The raid didn; t even slow them down. I was there next week.

Those two places are at the high end price-wise, but you get a lineup and good service, including massage etc. If you are just after a quick fuck the fishbowls in Sanur are probably the place to go. Venus spa in Jalan Pendidikan, Bali exotique spa and Kretya spa are other possibilities for mid range massage plus plus with a choice of girl (s).

[Tomasb]

One thing not mentioned about Onassis Spa is its proximity to the immigration office. It's across and up the street from this spa. When I went to extend my visa, I visited the spa for the first time. Pretty convenient after wasting half the afternoon at the immigration office.

There are two entries to the spa: the building's main entrance, which has a separate interior walkway on the left side to the spa with the fishbowl, and a reception desk in the lobby where one can get a legit massage and no extras. There is a side pathway outside the building (on your left as you face the building. A short walk on this path takes you to a glass door. Upon entry, the fishbowl is direct on your right and the reception on the left. I found a nice pretty girl and had a good time and did not notice any infrastructure issues with the rooms. As usual, YMMV.

Also, the Onassis has small interior hotel rooms past the lobby. The rooms were inexpensive but the one I viewed did not have windows. The spa is very close to the airport too if seeking last minute relief before your flight.

[Member #4551]

Will be in Ubud this weekend.

Does anyone know if there's any play here!? Mainly interested in AMPS, and like the sound of Beer Massage.

Cheers, Gron.

[Rob Jones]

Will be in Ubud this weekend.

Does anyone know if there's any play here!? Mainly interested in AMPS, and like the sound of Beer Massage.

Cheers, Gron.Not much action in Ubud. I would take my one from Kuta or elsewhere.

[PayForIt]

For the prompt responses. I'm based just north of Seminyak so will head down to Riverview. Onasis is a it of hike from there and Sanur too far. I had a wander around Seminyak square last night and the surrounding roads but didn't see any action. Which was a surprise. Asked a taxi driver who said Riverview but then of course he would! Unlike in Bangkok it seems the average AMP on the street with the girls outside ready to do massages don't offer HJ. At least the 2 I visited yesterday both said no. Hence Riverview it is for me today unless you guys have other Seminyak suggestions. Much appreciate the quick reply yesterday.

[Wimble]

Have 3 days only in Bali on stopover to Perth. Some places have a full staff including driver. I would look at that if I were you. Alternatively, ask the taxi or person driving / picking you up cost of hiring them for several hours at a time or half day. Some restaurants will offer pickup service. I find that more convenient and safer.

[Hiete]

One thing not mentioned about Onassis Spa is its proximity to the immigration office. It's across and up the street from this spa. When I went to extend my visa, I visited the spa for the first time. Pretty convenient after wasting half the afternoon at the immigration office. Not sure when you extended your visa. Immigration office has been moved to Mumbul area (Jl Taman Jimbaran) perhaps about 6 months ago and probably even longer. No spa's with services like Onasis in that area for those who would ask.

[Tomasb]

Not sure when you extended your visa. Immigration office has been moved to Mumbul area (Jl Taman Jimbaran) perhaps about 6 months ago and probably even longer. No spa's with services like Onasis in that area for those who would ask.I stand corrected as did not know the immigration office moved.

[Bhav44]

Was on a family holiday for New Years. Sneaked our for a bit of fun at Riverview Spa. Was shown a lineup of 10 odd girls. Picked up a young Javanese named Dera (if I am correct) 22 years.

Routine Massage, boom boom & jacuzi followed by shower.

Damages 1060000/- IDR.

WIR. Maybe not.

[Kodja]

In my many travels to Sanur I have only been able to locate the fishbowl in the lane behind the Circle K store. Each time I have been there I have had great service but I want to visit other fishbowls. I know there are many in the area but cannot find them. I've tried reading the map found on here but it's not that clear for me. Can anyone clearly direct me to at least another really good one please. I don't want to ask a taxi driver as I ride around on a scooter.

[Eszpresszo]

In my many travels to Sanur I have only been able to locate the fishbowl in the lane behind the Circle K store. Each time I have been there I have had great service but I want to visit other fishbowls. I know there are many in the area but cannot find them. I've tried reading the map found on here but it's not that clear for me. Can anyone clearly direct me to at least another really good one please. I don't want to ask a taxi driver as I ride around on a scooter.You know there are various versions of the Bali Monger Map out there, complete with addresses. For grins, I looked up the addresses on Google Maps, got down to "Street View" and found they were pretty obvious, thanks to the X marked next to the number. I actually came across the X address on places that were not on the monger map by just scrolling through the streets on Google Maps. My plan is to rent a bicycle, ride around in daylight on a recon mission to scope out the alleged locations, and catch a cab back when they are open in the evening (I'm told they open later after dark).

[Wimble]

In my many travels to Sanur I have only been able to locate the fishbowl in the lane behind the Circle K store. Each time I have been there I have had great service but I want to visit other fishbowls. I know there are many in the area but cannot find them. I've tried reading the map found on here but it's not that clear for me. Can anyone clearly direct me to at least another really good one please. I don't want to ask a taxi driver as I ride around on a scooter.I think you mean the Bali monger map. It is still a great source and most things do not move much. Even if they do, you have a starting point on what to ask for by name. As for the the fish bowls in Sanur, they are on the map. If you have a bike you can ride around and find most of them. There are house numbers and some are easier because of landmarks.

If you don't want to ask a taxi, ask a bemo driver or one of the shop keepers. Bemo will most likely not charge but they will get a kickback from the establishment, to which you will pay a little more, maybe. So do it once and think of the time it will save and the future opportunities. Enjoy the fishing.

[Wimble]

Can anyone clearly direct me to at least another really good one please. I don't want to ask a taxi driver as I ride around on a scooter.I think the map is from an ISG member Barri. Just take a look. It is all there. Google is your friend. You can also follow his directions and update any missing or incorrect information. Or post the correct information and maybe some helpful reader will update the map.

[Thampi62]

Hi friends,

I am travelling to Bali from Jan 20th 24th and staying in Mercure, Sanur. This is my fourth visit and I usually stayed in Legian street. I wish to explore Fish bowls in Saur following Baris map. Expecting a helping hand from senior members to recommend few active fishbowls near Mercure. Of course I will share my experience in the forum.

Thanks in advance. Happy mongering.

[VonderJohn]

Hello all,

I've read that most of the reports in this forum discuss how to target and date Asian ladies. But what about the western, European ladies?

I've noticed tons of European 'backpackers' who are spending weeks, if not months in Bali, wandering around the scenic nature and enjoying the stress-free environment. Many of their dating app profiles start with "I left my corporate job and now travelling the world" or something similar.

But it seems these ladies aren't as easy to date as the Asian ladies. How should they be approached? What kind of guys do they usually date? (I know the Asians look for western guys who are willing to spend money on them). What about the european ladies? There are plenty of them but I think they need a different "strategy" to get a date with them.

Your input based on your experience is highly appreciated!

[Rob Jones]

Hello all,

I've read that most of the reports in this forum discuss how to target and date Asian ladies. But what about the western, European ladies?

I've noticed tons of European 'backpackers' who are spending weeks, if not months in Bali, wandering around the scenic nature and enjoying the stress-free environment. Many of their dating app profiles start with "I left my corporate job and now travelling the world" or something similar.

But it seems these ladies aren't as easy to date as the Asian ladies. How should they be approached? What kind of guys do they usually date? (I know the Asians look for western guys who are willing to spend money on them). What about the european ladies? There are plenty of them but I think they need a different "strategy" to get a date with them.

Your input based on your experience is highly appreciated!I don't know! If I wanted to sleep with western backpackers I would venture to Coogee and Bondi in Sydney. I haven't had sex with a western woman for 16 years and I have no desire to in the foreseeable future. I know a lot of younger Aussies will go to Bali for European backpackers but I can't see the point.