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I've heard that they have now blocked DIA within Indonesia.Why should they do that? It is just a dating website.
I'm in Papua and can't open it with a Telkomsel Flash Modem as it keeps stating Access Denied.
But, you also ended up selling those same reports on your site, right? And was the Philippines report pulled from ol' Tom's site?
Firstly, thank you very much for providing me with so much great information to help me plan my forthcoming trip. I will be in Jakarta in three weeks time and have RTTF to such a degree, my eyes are nearly bleeding. I have trawled through over 50 pages of information and have got lots of good tips. Nevertheless, I have some questions. In return for your help, I will post lengthy reports, as I did after my trip to Philippines last year.
Traveler1234
02-07-11, 13:13
But, you also ended up selling those same reports on your site, right? And was the Philippines report pulled from ol' Tom's site?Tell us more about Sir Lancelot.
Sir Lancelot
02-08-11, 01:24
But, you also ended up selling those same reports on your site, right? And was the Philippines report pulled from ol' Tom's site?Yeah, that's right. Thommo decided that he wanted his site to be just his own words which is completely understandable. My Philippines diary was initially posted on his site (am I allowed to post a link?) but he recommended that I start up my own site, which is exactly what I did. Although it has my diaries from Thailand / Phils, the main bit of the site is the 'Secret Diaries of a Sex Tourist' weekly blog. Have you been reading? Sometimes it feels like I'm talking to myself on there.
I don't think I'm allowed to post a link. I personally don't regard my site as competition to this forum. Indeed, I even posted huge chunks of my Philippines diary (including photos) in the Philippines thread.
Danibbler, here's what Thommo said:
"I expect in time, Sir Lance, a former journalist, to become an internet front runner on the subject of sex tourism. Stick with him, for I believe in the not too distant future he is about to take off and plunder yet again the Maidens of the Far East and report in graphic detail. Oh to be young again. Thommo :)"
And that's why I'm on this forum now, researching my next trip. I'll be in Indonesia in three weeks time, writing my next 'secret diary'. I wanted to go somewhere new and exciting. That is why I posted below, to find information about the must-see places I have read about on this very forum. If you can help answer any of my questions, I'd be extremely grateful.
Regards,
Sir Lancelot.
Ps. Thommo exaggerated with the 'front runner' bit. There are about seven million people better qualified for that accolade here on ISG!
These shots were taken a couple of years ago and the last time I saw her was around 1 year ago when she was working for some mamasan in kota somewhere. She used to be a Top Gun regular and hang out with Ria. First time I grabbed the two of them for a double show back to the Grand Kemang. Ria was more experienced or so it seemed the first night as Imel seemed a bit shy and not wanting to give a BJ so Rita performed the deed with relish. Boned the 2 of them in my drunken bourbon stupor for a couple of hours until I offloaded my second shot and Imel really didn't make an impression besides her cute looks and nice body. Anyway before they left I got Imel's number as I decided I wanted to try her out the next day by herself. During the day ring her up and get her back that evening and WOW she sucked my otong like a ravenous cannibal. Really blew my mind what a different girl she was from the night before. Ended up not even going out to TG but stayed home the whole night and boned her 5 times with 2 BBBJCIM. One of the most experienced sex machines I have been with for such a young chick. She also worked at Highway to Elle for a couple of months as a dancer. The reason I'm showing her face is so if anyone has seen her around kota way please PM me as I would love to catch up with her again. Last time I saw her she had put a bit of weight on tho and she may not have the pony cut anymore.
Playboy2001
02-08-11, 08:40
Recently I went to an Apotek to check the availability of Vit-V or C, but they didn't have, instead offered me a tablet called Exo-X, produced at Indonesia and said it is a herbal product for vitality & stamina of men. Have any one tried that?
Yup, bar was crap! Walked into where the band played and left 2 seconds later with shattered ear drums.
Spent a while talking to "anti?" around 28 good English, went to room for uncovered BJ and DATY. Tasty but pricy.
Will check out other hotels next time.
Hi, I personnally think the bar is crap.
I stayed twice in the Meridien. Shopped one time for a FL there. Reported a month ago or so. Most of the girls look either old or have had kids etc.
IMHO, if you can spare the time, nothing works better than DIA or other dating sites. Hookers in Indonesia, unlike in the Phils, deliver poor performance and limited enthusiasm. Freebies, even not 100% free, are much more interesting.
Costs a bit, but much more satisfying. Spend a little time on the sites. Date in Asia is free. Chat on yahoo or msn. Exchange pics. Cam. Half of them end up showing their tits or whole body. Those are 99% sure hit. With most of them, with a little finesse and some time spent talking, conversation goes about sex. How I will tie them with the belt of the bathrobe etc. Am currently working 3. Next time will have to bang two.
Enjoy.
Robert Long
02-09-11, 18:28
Recently I went to an Apotek to check the availability of Vit-V or C, but they didn't have, instead offered me a tablet called Exo-X, produced at Indonesia and said it is a herbal product for vitality & stamina of men. Have any one tried that?Ok so waiting for a followup report on this product.
Did you buy them and how much did you pay?
Did they work?
RL
Hookers in Indonesia, unlike in the Phils, deliver poor performance and limited enthusiasm.I disagree with that. But I guess everyone has different experiences. I can speak Bahasa though so maybe that makes a difference. I do think the Flips speak english better than the indos. I won't say the indo hookers are better than the flip hookers in bed, but I will say that the indo hookers compared to the chicks on DIA are every bit as good in bed in my opinion. If you are saying indo hookers at places like hotel travel are lame fucks, I agree. In my experience, most of the north jakarta girls are like that. But I've had some fantastically wild sessions with girls from places like Bats and Blok M.
Spent a while talking to "anti?" around 28 good English, went to room for uncovered BJ and DATY. Tasty but pricy.May I ask how much she charged?
On a side note, the band at Le Meridien is currently my favorite in Jakarta. I love their rendition of Keong Racun. That's the only bule band I've heard in town play that song.
Playboy2001
02-10-11, 07:34
Ok so waiting for a followup report on this product.
Did you buy them and how much did you pay?
Did they work?
RLPrice: Rp. 45, 000 for 2 pills. Took 1 and did find some effect. I think its made in Indonesia with an instruction lefalet in both Bahasa and English. Still have one more left. Its long time since I took Vit-V, so unable to compare the effects of these two. Can try once!
After a four year absence, I finally made it back to Jakarta. The first time I was there, I spent four days chasing tail from Blok M to Atrium Mall and had success in both places. This time, I was intent on extending my experiences to the well-discussed hunting grounds of DIA, Red Square and the good ole streets.
I launched a profile on DIA about a week or two before landing and got a fair bit of interest. It wasn't hard to get them once they'd shown an interest, usually it just meant setting up a date. Of the two that I finally selected, one was a rich girl who just wanted to get away from daddy and the other a sweet virgin who was looking for Mr. Right. The first took a little more wooing, as she was 21 and not very used to the whole scene and the other was itching to stay with me from the first date. Trouble is, I know what virgins are like and I knew everything wasn't on the menu, so I only saw her once, sweet though she was.
Red Square. Now that's a place to go if you've got a little game. Second night, a girl just comes up to me and says "I want sex with you." I try to play it cool and figure out if she's on the game, but it seems that this is just your average **** who needs some dick. She had rich friends who did boring stuff with their rich husbands. This little vixen just loved sex. Harder and harder she begged for it until morning broke and I was too tired to go on. I told her a little rest and a little food would help. So I went out, grabbed a morning donut and popped a Cialis that I procured from my friendly neighbourhood apotek. An hour later and I was burying it deep inside her while she screamed into the pillow. Lovely girl.
I got lucky three times in all at RS, though after the third it started to get blurry. They play the same music and after four years of nothing, then to have all these skinny little girls in their sexy dresses jumping around, well I was disoriented and had to take a night off.
Well, I tried to take a night off, but I ended up at Blok M (as you do). I browsed for a long while, then chose a cute Bandung girl who was around 5'4" and 24 years old. 400K plus 30 for a taxi. She reminded me of my ex-girlfriend and had one of those supple round asses that I'd been looking for.
Things started to get confusing when I saw her in Red Square. She was just there for fun, she said. Ok, said I, but didn't try taking her again. I was on a no-repeat policy. I didn't end up finding anyone that night, so I headed up to Stadium. My memory of Stadium was hookers, hustlers and strobe lights and I must admit, not much has changed. I was courted by two girls, one of whom turned physical when it became obvious that I was taking the other one home. The one I took home told me her parents were away and she wanted to go out and do something. That something turned out to be me. To be honest, I think there is a very strong bule-fetish in Indonesia, one which I think only the Philippines can rival. They literally throw their pussies at you. I love it!
It had been a week and I'd been on a bit of a bender, a fact that I felt rather conscious of every time I walked through the reception of my hotel. So I set up a date with the spoiled rich girl from DIA. First date, dinner and chatting, with no prospect of sex. Second date lunch and it felt like we were moving backwards. So I just put it all out there. Come back to my hotel with me now. She said she'd think about it. An hour later, I was sliding off her panties and looking at the tight box of a 21 year old. Yee-ha! Sometimes it's best to put it all out there. You can go so far with courtship and the high quality girls definitely need a bit of this, but to waste time on something that is not going to go anywhere is not worth it. Holidays are only so long. For amateurs, it's all about trust. If you can show that you're a decent guy, then it's up to her to find a good excuse not to have sex.
I set up the other date from DIA a few days later, after extending my stay and changing my hotel (the walk of shame was getting too much to bear). The virgin was, to her account, a strict Muslim who was waiting for the right guy. She didn't mention that she loved to suck cock too. But later, as I was rubbing her body all over and she writhed about naked on the bed, I thought that Indonesian conceptions of religion are somewhat different to what I had expected.
The next day, I was in Blok M again exploring the terrain. Blok M mall is good if you're looking for a wifi zone, but in terms of mongering, I never saw any opportunities. Blok M Plaza was a little better, but never did I see a target that I could have honed in on. That night, I went back to Top Gun and was introduced to two sexy girls in black dresses, one with hair down past her ass. I spent the night giving her shit, which she really responded to. I told her I didn't want to take her home. She stormed off. She looked wild and that's fun, but I like sweet. However, when sweet didn't appear and I was heading home, I popped over to My Bar and there she was. I said sorry and that I did want her after all and things were sweet. A few drinks later and click click click, she was walking across the foyer of my new hotel.
This one was a firecracker. She wanted everything, oral, pussy, anal, CIM. I missed her mouth and gave her the Something About Mary, but she was a good sport about it. No discussion of money had taken place. I gave her 200 "for the taxi" and she said she normally got more for taxi. I asked her what kind of taxis she's been taking. No comment. When you add in all the drinks I bought her, I'd say it was easily a 400K investment. I was fine with it.
In conclusion, Jakarta was all I wanted it to be and more. There were opportunities that I passed up, such as when a car full of girls stopped me on Jalan Jaksa and asked me to come party. It was too late / random and I was too hungry, but that could have been a great story. Then there were the cafes, girls on the street, girls shopping, girls with other guys who made my head spin and wish that I had more weeks to spare. Sadly, I didn't. But Jakarta is definitely on my next travel itinerary.
I envy all of you here who call this city home.
Mighty Spearsman
02-10-11, 16:37
Firstly, thank you very much for providing me with so much great information to help me plan my forthcoming trip. I will be in Jakarta in three weeks time and have RTTF to such a degree, my eyes are nearly bleeding. I have trawled through over 50 pages of information and have got lots of good tips. Nevertheless, I have some questions. In return for your help, I will post lengthy reports, as I did after my trip to Philippines last year.
4. I'm a big fan of massage parlours. The best I have ever been to is Nataree massage parlour in Bangkok (never seen so many pretty girls in the same place at the same time) although I also loved the soapy treatment I got at Cristins in Phuket. It seems Jakarta has many good options:
- Is it fair to say that Travel Hotel has the largest selection of pretty girls? It gets many good reports but what time should I be aiming to arrive? Travel seems to have lots of young pretty girls but I'm reading that Maribaya girls give better service (similar to Annie's in Bangkok?).
- Kartika and Berlian are two others I will certainly visit, although by the sounds of it there are a lot fewer girls than Travel Hotel. What time would be best to arrive? Do they both offer soapy massage?
Finally, if anyone has any other tips or recommendations, please let me know.
Regards,
Sir LancelotIMHO there's no question. Kartika is the best place in Jakarta for a soapy massage, especially a 2-girl session. The soapy massage is automatice here, you don't have to ask for it.
Berlian also provides a soapy massage, but you have to ask ahead of time, and not all of the girls are good at it.
An alternative to Hotel Travel is Hotel Malioboro, which has been discussed extensively here on ISG
Don't forget Oasis for soapy massage. The girls there are better looking than the ones at Kartika or Berlian.
Sir Lancelot
02-11-11, 00:16
IMHO there's no question. Kartika is the best place in Jakarta for a soapy massage, especially a 2-girl session. The soapy massage is automatice here, you don't have to ask for it.
Berlian also provides a soapy massage, but you have to ask ahead of time, and not all of the girls are good at it.
An alternative to Hotel Travel is Hotel Malioboro, which has been discussed extensively here on ISGI've read a number of your posts on these boards and it seems that yours is an opinion I can trust, so thank you very much in advance for your help.
What is the best time to visit? I remember going to Sayuri in Chiang Mai and it was obvious I got there too soon (4pm) because the number of girls was limited but when I went to leave 90 minutes later, there were lots more pretty girls in the fishbowl. I've learnt that timing is everything at these massage parlours.
So what time is it best to visit Berlain, Kartika and Hotel Travel, how many girls approximately will there be and which has the prettiest? I will visit them all, I just want to make sure I get the optimum experience (which of course I will write about on here, with photos).
Also can you tell me more about Malioboro? Despite the fact I read 50+ pages on this thread alone, I only once made notes about Malioboro. Then again, it's quite possible I might have missed reports since there was a lot of info to try to take in. Similar set-up to Hotel Travel, with a large lounge and lots of girls to pick from?
Smoothy. I haven't heard of Oasis. Where is that?
Gonad Man. Thanks for the report. Really, really useful for someone who will be in Jakarta in two weeks. Red Square is on my shortlist but your report has persuaded me to visit. It seems from reports to be a bar / nightclub, so I'm guessing that the time to visit is after 10pm?
Don't forget Oasis for soapy massage. The girls there are better looking than the ones at Kartika or Berlian.Smoothy, where is oasis as I wasn't impressed with Berlian or Kartika as the time I was there it was mainly older fat ugly puglys. There were a couple and I did indulge and it was great for a novelty thing but overall quality of talent below par. Maybe I went on a bad day.
Sir Lancelot, Hotel Travel & Hotel Classic are sofa brothels with in my opinion Hotel Classic better than HT due to the 2 for 400k special package. I always religiously went to Hotel Travel from 2005. Start of 2010 then after HT was renovated and started the 2 4 400 trick I converted to HT. Be prepared to be knocked back by some of the girls as they don't want to be with a Expat / bule as they prefer Chinese / japanese punters. It helps if you can speak Indo as I have always been able to sweet talk 80% of the ones who initially refuse me by talking to them, cracking jokes telling them your not a rough guy and also most of the mamasan's know me and sweet talk the girls for me. These places open at 13. 00 till 02. 00 but the best time for that WOW factor is around 16. 00. 18. 00 as you will walk into the place and all of the sofas are chockas brimming with trim. Usually the new girls who have the most debt will be working from 13. 00. 02. 00 to pay off their debt whereas the longer term ones who don't have much debt can start 16. 00 17. 00 18. 00 depending on the girl. Most of these girls are virtually sex slaves where their parents or in a lot of cases the girls themselves have borrowed money from the roaming agents going from village to village looking for talent. Most of these girls live in a supplied apartment building (mess) and are driven to and from their residence straight to work. There are some girls who have the own kost and these are the ones to try and hook up with after work. I have hooked up with these types before and usually their kosts are a honeycomb of wall to wall pussy, so you finish boning her then when your walking out of the building you front any other talent that tickles your fancy as they are all working girls. Most of those apartment building especially the ones 4-5 storeys high and no elevator cheaper are beehives of talent. If you go to 6th Floor. 5+1, Maribaya all the same place they are more experienced and hard core but after going to HT & HC you will notice the difference. If you go at night time ask for Rosa as she is a really nice chick with a hot bod and perky tits. She has quite large [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) flaps tho and had a see section but otherwise one of the better ones there.
I always get her to drop into my hotel after she knocks off work as she lives just near where I stay when I'm in Jakarta. Generally the soap houses have pretty average talent but follow Smoothy's advice and try the Oasis.
Playboy2001
02-11-11, 05:13
I took the second pill yestreday, must say its really good!
Smoothy, where is oasis as I wasn't impressed with Berlian or Kartika as the time I was there it was mainly older fat ugly puglys. There were a couple and I did indulge and it was great for a novelty thing but overall quality of talent below par. Maybe I went on a bad day.Go to mangga besar and it's almost right across the street from lokasari. You mentioned you frequent hotel travel. HT is not a very far walk from oasis. In oasis, the ground floor has the sauna and the soapy girls are sitting on the first floor.
follow Smoothy's advice and try the Oasis.Keep in mind that Jakarta is nothing compared to Bangkok for a soapy massage. Kartika is where you can get the best soapy massage in Jakarta, but the girls are not exactly stunners. You can find cuter ones in Oasis on occasion for sure but it's a bit hit and miss there. They don't have many girls who give a soapy there. But they do have a few cute girls.
My top recommendation in Jakarta is Malioboro for non-soapy fun. Ask the mamasan which girl can give a body to body massage. The girls oil themselves up and slide all over you. Those are fun as well.
Playboy2001
02-11-11, 06:54
Keep in mind that Jakarta is nothing compared to Bangkok for a soapy massage. Kartika is where you can get the best soapy massage in Jakarta, but the girls are not exactly stunners. You can find cuter ones in Oasis on occasion for sure but it's a bit hit and miss there. They don't have many girls who give a soapy there. But they do have a few cute girls.
My top recommendation in Jakarta is Malioboro for non-soapy fun. Ask the mamasan which girl can give a body to body massage. The girls oil themselves up and slide all over you. Those are fun as well. Smoothy,
At what time Oasis closes (soapy section). Also, at Malio, is the 350K gilrs who provide body-body oil massage?
Thanks for your reply.
Playboy2001
02-11-11, 09:53
Smoothy,
At what time Oasis closes (soapy section). Also, at Malio, is the 350K gilrs who provide body-body oil massage?
Thanks for your reply.OK, I got the info. Soapy (Oasis) is open until 11. 30 PM
I'm not sure what time Oasis closes, I always go in the afternoon.
Yes, it's the 350k girls who give the body / body massage. But only some of them do it. The mamasan will tell you which ones. Normally the "stunners" do not do it, but there are plenty of nice looking ones who do.
Just come back from jaGatal.
The King Cross is expensive than hotel travel and stadium. They charge 150k++ for st rooms, the girls have several price. 300k. 400k etc. Overall the environment, show and music is good.
Oasis Spa not worth it, the girl quality is bad, and the body massage is not included sex. 80k for spa facility. 160k massage. 360k body massage, near Astika Hotel.
Classic Hotel is a must try if you want a threesome for 400k only, many girls and big place, but very crowded. Just go to the 2nd floor, Terminal Club. Sometime there is some extra charges like condoms and cigarette.
Stadium disco on 4th floor is too dark, and I agree the music sucks. Better go to the 3rd floor, lounge with live music, mamasan will come to you. Beside it is the ST room and counter, you can request the mamasan to parade the girls for you to choose if you come in a group. I saw some japanese do that.
So what time is it best to visit Berlain, Kartika and Hotel Travel, how many girls approximately will there be and which has the prettiest? I will visit them all, I just want to make sure I get the optimum experience (which of course I will write about on here, with photos).
Also can you tell me more about Malioboro? Despite the fact I read 50+ pages on this thread alone, I only once made notes about Malioboro. Then again, it's quite possible I might have missed reports since there was a lot of info to try to take in. Similar set-up to Hotel Travel, with a large lounge and lots of girls to pick from?
Smoothy. I haven't heard of Oasis. Where is that?Stay at the Astika Hotel or Peninsula Hotel in mangga besar, these place is all near by.
Berlian and Kartika is very run down place. Turn left when you come out from the hotel above, after 10min walk reach the t-junction, then turn left again, you'll see the Berlian Kartika at your left within 3min. It is inside a small alley. Go further, you'll see the starbucks, domino, turn left again before the starbucks, domino, you are at the Stadium now, have fun. The stadium lounge start around 5:30pm, disco start at 10pm.
Oasis Spa is almost next to the peninsula hotel, mangga besar. Not recommend, unless you plan to spend 600+ for a soapie. The body massage is not including sex, you pay extra for sex. Minimum expenses is 80k for the spa facility. 160k for traditional massage. 360k for body massage. Most soapie girl is 25+. The ground floor is jaguzzi and sauna, go up 1 floor to choose the girl. The soapie girl sit at the front row sofa, wearing blue shirt, have about 12 girls. Traditional massage girl is better looking. They have some show start from 6:30.
I didn't go inside the Mille's Lokasari and Millenium Gajah Mada even it is near by. Is it same as the stadium with mamasam or freelance place like blok-m. The stadium mamasan want to charge 1M+ for overnight.
I'm looking for freelance place with 500-600k for overnight near the mangga besar. Any info will be very appreciate.
Thank you.
I strongly suggest that if you're going to sell an Indonesian sex tourism guide that you get the girls to sign a model release form. I don't know what the laws are in Indonesia with regards to this sort of thing but in North America the situation is that if you are taking someone's picture and then use it in a commercial undertaking you are supposed to inform them of that and they may be entitled to recompense.
In the case of Indonesia, the consequences of you taking a girl's picture and identifying her as a hooker may be far-reaching and fatal.
As for selling a guide, I just think that it's a bit contrary to the ethos of this forum which is for people to freely help one another out. That's just me.
Yeah, that's right. Thommo decided that he wanted his site to be just his own words which is completely understandable. My Philippines diary was initially posted on his site (am I allowed to post a link?) but he recommended that I start up my own site, which is exactly what I did. Although it has my diaries from Thailand / Phils, the main bit of the site is the 'Secret Diaries of a Sex Tourist' weekly blog. Have you been reading? Sometimes it feels like I'm talking to myself on there.
I don't think I'm allowed to post a link. I personally don't regard my site as competition to this forum. Indeed, I even posted huge chunks of my Philippines diary (including photos) in the Philippines thread.
Danibbler, here's what Thommo said:
"I expect in time, Sir Lance, a former journalist, to become an internet front runner on the subject of sex tourism. Stick with him, for I believe in the not too distant future he is about to take off and plunder yet again the Maidens of the Far East and report in graphic detail. Oh to be young again. Thommo."
And that's why I'm on this forum now, researching my next trip. I'll be in Indonesia in three weeks time, writing my next 'secret diary'. I wanted to go somewhere new and exciting. That is why I posted below, to find information about the must-see places I have read about on this very forum. If you can help answer any of my questions, I'd be extremely grateful.
Regards,
Sir Lancelot.
The King Cross is expensive than hotel travel and stadium. They charge 150k++ for st rooms, the girls have several price. 300k. 400k etc. Overall the environment, show and music is good.
Oasis Spa not worth it, the girl quality is bad, and the body massage is not included sex. 80k for spa facility. 160k massage. 360k body massage, near Astika Hotel. King's Cross is more like a Malioboro type of place in my opinion. I think KC and Malio are nicer than Hotel Travel and Stadium so I don't mind paying a little extra.
You are right that Oasis is more expensive than Kartika or Berlian. It's not really the same type of experience though given that you can relax in the spa downstairs first. There are not "many" real cuties working at Oasis, but there are a few young and cute ones (in high demand so they are busy and may need to be booked by telephone in advance) , however, I find that there are no cuties at all working at Kartika or Berlian. I'd actually forgotten that the sex wasn't included in the massage price at Oasis. But that is 100% the case and depending on the girl you get, the negotiations can be a pain. I've always paid the extra for the sex there but the girl was so cute I didn't mind. I find that to even get a nice girl, you have to hang out in the lounge area for a while to see if you can happen upon a cute one in between rounds. The ugly ones will always be sitting on the couch there, but the cute ones will only be seen for a few minutes in between customers. I do agree that Oasis "is not worth it" if you are looking for value for your sex dollar. Soapies in Jakarta are rare to find and they are horrible value in comparison to Thailand. If you want bang for your buck with a nice girl, getting a soapy is one of the worst options in Jakarta.
John Marigold99
02-13-11, 14:22
Thanks to all for the valuable intel on KC, Mal, Oasis, HT, etc. I usually limit my hunting to Blok M (Jalan Paletehan). My only visits to the "spas" were to Alexis early last year and Total Country more than 10 years ago. I strongly prefer to stay in South Jakarta now, so I just don't venture up north much. But I'm thinking about doing that on Sunday. Tuesday nights when I return, as Top Gun and My Bar are quite slow on those nights. I'm assuming these places are still "well-stocked" on Sundays and Mondays? Hope so. My Alexis experience was great, but I don't think it is great value for the money compared to other places. One time last year I had a 12 noon checkout in my south Jakarta hotel and a 10PM flight to Seoul, and I found Alexis to be much better hangout than any VIP lounge at the airport.
King's Cross is more like a Malioboro type of place in my opinion. I think KC and Malio are nicer than Hotel Travel and Stadium so I don't mind paying a little extra.
You are right that Oasis is more expensive than Kartika or Berlian. It's not really the same type of experience though given that you can relax in the spa downstairs first. There are not "many" real cuties working at Oasis, but there are a few young and cute ones (in high demand so they are busy and may need to be booked by telephone in advance) , however, I find that there are no cuties at all working at Kartika or Berlian. I'd actually forgotten that the sex wasn't included in the massage price at Oasis. But that is 100% the case and depending on the girl you get, the negotiations can be a pain. I've always paid the extra for the sex there but the girl was so cute I didn't mind. I find that to even get a nice girl, you have to hang out in the lounge area for a while to see if you can happen upon a cute one in between rounds. The ugly ones will always be sitting on the couch there, but the cute ones will only be seen for a few minutes in between customers. I do agree that Oasis "is not worth it" if you are looking for value for your sex dollar. Soapies in Jakarta are rare to find and they are horrible value in comparison to Thailand. If you want bang for your buck with a nice girl, getting a soapy is one of the worst options in Jakarta.
Thanks to all for the valuable intel on KC, Mal, Oasis, HT, etc. I usually limit my hunting to Blok M (Jalan Paletehan). My only visits to the "spas" were to Alexis early last year and Total Country more than 10 years ago. I strongly prefer to stay in South Jakarta now, so I just don't venture up north much. But I'm thinking about doing that on Sunday. Tuesday nights when I return, as Top Gun and My Bar are quite slow on those nights. I'm assuming these places are still "well-stocked" on Sundays and Mondays? Hope so. My Alexis experience was great, but I don't think it is great value for the money compared to other places. One time last year I had a 12 noon checkout in my south Jakarta hotel and a 10PM flight to Seoul, and I found Alexis to be much better hangout than any VIP lounge at the airport.Try King's Cross or MTR2 at Kelapa Gading.
John Marigold99
02-14-11, 23:05
Try King's Cross or MTR2 at Kelapa Gading.Is MTR2 an acronym or is it actually the name of the place? I did a search of the thread and came up with 11 hits, but all refer to it as MTR2 (not surprising given that I typed in MTR2 to do the search). Any help would be appreciated. I will certainly post on any mongering activities I enjoy there.
I went up to Kelapa Gading last March to meet a young (early 20s) girl that I had met on DIA. We met at one of the malls there where she worked, but quickly went to another closeby mall (probably because she had a bf and didn't want to be seen with me there). Both malls were nice and I liked the area. After enjoying a bite to eat, we headed off to my hotel (Atlet) and decided to hang out for awhile before going to CJs. So we watched a movie. Before long, we were making out and had an incredible time making love together. She has one of the prettiest faces I have ever seen in Jakarta and a great petite build. After making love, we showered and went to CJs and danced and got totally drunk before going back to my hotel for the night. Because she had a bf, I never followed up with her. My loss. She is married now (to her bf) and living somewhere in Europe. Lucky guy.
I've been cruising thru DIA and was curious if anyone has some war stories on Rena Ayu (Nice Tits) and Sera Wati (Gorgeous)? I don't want to join just in case the wife or the girlfriend find out. And I couldn't be fuc*ed with the lying and deception as I always tell all the girls I meet face to face that I'm married and have a girlfriend. I may be a scumbag but at least I'm not a lying scumbag. Hehehehe, anyway if anyone has anything on these two honeys please share.
Is MTR2 an acronym or is it actually the name of the place? I did a search of the thread and came up with 11 hits, but all refer to it as MTR2 (not surprising given that I typed in MTR2 to do the search). Any help would be appreciated. I will certainly post on any mongering activities I enjoy there.The first MTR is at Pangeran Jayakarta. The former name of it was Mutiara.
I've been cruising thru DIA and was curious if anyone has some war stories on Rena Ayu (Nice Tits) and Sera Wati (Gorgeous)? I don't want to join just in case the wife or the girlfriend find out. And I couldn't be fuc*ed with the lying and deception as I always tell all the girls I meet face to face that I'm married and have a girlfriend. I may be a scumbag but at least I'm not a lying scumbag. Hehehehe, anyway if anyone has anything on these two honeys please share.Haven't met either of them, tried to get contact details from one but no response. I suspect they get a lot of messages.
I also always tell them that I am married, my profile on DIA says I'm married and I have no pictures there. I always refuse to send pics when they ask for them. Sorts out the husband hunters from the fun lovers.
Sir Lancelot
02-16-11, 00:39
I strongly suggest that if you're going to sell an Indonesian sex tourism guide that you get the girls to sign a model release form. I don't know what the laws are in Indonesia with regards to this sort of thing but in North America the situation is that if you are taking someone's picture and then use it in a commercial undertaking you are supposed to inform them of that and they may be entitled to recompense.
In the case of Indonesia, the consequences of you taking a girl's picture and identifying her as a hooker may be far-reaching and fatal.
As for selling a guide, I just think that it's a bit contrary to the ethos of this forum which is for people to freely help one another out. That's just me.I understand the point you make. The truth is that I only charge a fee for my diaries so that the girls contained within remain anonymous to the casual visitor (I hardly make any money). It's similar to this forum. There are thousands of pictures of girls but they are hidden away only to be seen by those who pay a subscription. It's my experience that girls are wary of the internet in case it reveals to their friends / family that they're hookers, so if a cost / subscription is introduced, it means that the photos only get seen by mongers.
In terms of sharing information and the 'ethos of the forum', again, I take your point. However, I would like to point out that I posted 8 HUGE field reports following my trip to Philippines last year and my 'Secret Diaries' blog contains lots of free information.
Sir Lancelot
02-16-11, 01:05
Malibu21.
KangK.
Smoothy.
Mighty Spearsman.
Thank you for your help about the massage parlours. I plan to be in Jakarta for about a week and will stay in Kota area, possibly Mercure Hotel. Absolute certainties to visit are Hotel Travel and Classic Hotel for the 3some. I will also pop my head in to Oasis, Kartika and Berlain. Then there are other places like Red Square, Malioboro and Stadium that sound interesting, that I will visit if I have time. It's my understanding that 4pm. 6pm is the time to visit the massage parlours. At night I will sample the delights of Blok M and some of the discos.
Does this sound a reasonable itinerary? Are there any glaring omissions?
I also have a few more questions:
- What type of setup is Malioboro? I've heard it mentioned as a good option but despite searching the last 50 pages on this page, I can't find too many details.
- I read somewhere that "Kota Indah in Jakarta is gold star in terms of quality of girls". I think it was from another website but I haven't read anything about it on this forum. Is it out-of-date information?
- If you had to choose your favourite place in Kota to pick up girls at night-time (say, after 9pm) where would it be?
Once again, thanks for your help and I will certainly post a report.
Master Diver II
02-16-11, 01:28
I've been cruising thru DIA and was curious if anyone has some war stories on Rena Ayu (Nice Tits) and Sera Wati (Gorgeous)? I don't want to join just in case the wife or the girlfriend find out. And I couldn't be fuc*ed with the lying and deception as I always tell all the girls I meet face to face that I'm married and have a girlfriend. I may be a scumbag but at least I'm not a lying scumbag. Hehehehe, anyway if anyone has anything on these two honeys please share.I always tell the girls the truth. It makes for a much simpler time. If they still agree to proceed, you both know where you stand. However, this doesn't mean they won't end up investing their emotions. It's happened to me a few times before. I'm not sure how your wife will find out - unless you are careless and leave your computer on. I register under a pseudonym (as do half the girls anyway) have a separate email and yahoo messenger under my alter ego. So a search under my name will not garner any results. I also surf these sites and ISG using the Google Chrome incognito window so there's no history or cookies stored. Better to be safe and keep the computer clean.
Are you an Indonesian resident? Incidentally, I gather you must be able to travel quite extensively as the first girl is in Jakarta and the second is in Semarang. That's quite some distance between the two places. But then again I note your range of conquests and remain in envy of the girl in the bikini and the sister in Pelabuhan Ratu.
MD II
MD2, I haven't had any pleasure with those 2 girls from DIA but was merely asking has anyone had any dates with them as I'm a tit and ankle guy and Rena Ayu's tits look pretty inviting whereas Sera Wati just looked absolutely gorgeous. I actually went thru the motions and joined up to DIA with the main purpose on fronting RA but when I was filling in my profile I decided not to as I'm like you, you tell the girls the truth that way they know exactly where you stand and if they proceed you know exactly where they stand. With your wife finding out is pretty easy especially when our dial is plastered up on DIA and the wives have friends who may be a member to DIA. I've worked extensively throughout Indo and not planning on going anywhere else as it is as good as it gets. I'm totally biased as I love the diversity of Indo women especially Sundanese women. Anyway on my next R&R I have my hot 21 yr old GF with the second best set of tits I have ever been gangster slapped with to hang out with and have arranged to meet this other hot regular of mine from Bogor. Tall slender hot 18 yr old Sunda girl with extra hard firm tits and great BBBJCIM's. Not camera shy either so hopefully will have some more photos to come next month.
First went to HT (Hotel Travel) for a late afternoon session. It was hard as hell to find, I just assumed every taxi drive should know such a place but it's not so. Searched and couldn't find the address in the forum so here it is.
Address: Jl. Mangga Besar VIII / 21.
Phone: 021-6012721.
The entrance for spa or whatever the place with the girls is to the left of the main hotel entrance.
For those not familiar it's a large lounge where you can eat, drink, have the company of a girl, and take her to a room for shag.
There was at least 30 girls available but IMHO they were not the greatest looking. Something like pudgy brown little oompa loompas. A few looked younger and cuter though.
I took a girl. They required payment in advance, no chance for later. It was 300k for an hour including the room.
Ream was clean and decent.
The girls I took while really cute ended up being incredibly annoying. Beyond the constant yammering that I couldn't understand she kept trying to put on the condom after 5 seconds of sucking. After about 15 minutes I was greatly annoyed and kicked her out and fetched managment. They offered that I could keep the room but would need to pay 150k for a new girl. Good enough. New girl was slightly less attractive but 1000% more enthusiastic. Finished in her mouth. I appreciate the customer service from management. Pretty good and patient by skeezy brothel standards.
A few nights later to CJs club in Hotel Mulia.
Girls here were better looking on average than at HT and a few really attractive ones but in general still not great.
A few oompa loompas approached me but I had 0 interest. I approached a few of the more attractive girls but basically got the brush off from all of them. Towards the end of the night (30 min before closing) I spotted a new one. Conversation was nice and friendly. But. She wanted one million (good enough, I'm horny and it's late) and. Wasn't even willing to stay 3 hours. Her exact words were 'you finish and then I go'.
So I went home alone.
Not the best introduction to mongering in the Jakarta. I just didn't see alot of great looking girls.
BTW, Bluebird group taxi's are great. Always ran the meter. Never any hassle. Every other type of cab I tried was terrible.
malibu21.
kangk.
smoothy.
mighty spearsman.
thank you for your help about the massage parlours. i plan to be in jakarta for about a week and will stay in kota area, possibly mercure hotel. absolute certainties to visit are hotel travel and classic hotel for the 3some. i will also pop my head in to oasis, kartika and berlain. then there are other places like red square, malioboro and stadium that sound interesting, that i will visit if i have time. it's my understanding that 4pm. 6pm is the time to visit the massage parlours. at night i will sample the delights of blok m and some of the discos.
does this sound a reasonable itinerary? are there any glaring omissions?
i also have a few more questions:
- what type of setup is malioboro? i've heard it mentioned as a good option but despite searching the last 50 pages on this page, i can't find too many details.
- i read somewhere that "kota indah in jakarta is gold star in terms of quality of girls". i think it was from another website but i haven't read anything about it on this forum. is it out-of-date information?
- if you had to choose your favourite place in kota to pick up girls at night-time (say, after 9pm) where would it be?
once again, thanks for your help and i will certainly post a report. sl, you can start off at kota indah around 14. 00 and its easier to go to lokasari shopping centre jl mangga besar, which is just near ht and oasis then jump on a ojek (motorbike) to kota indah 10, 000rp. there are 4 main wh's mtr, royal, sari ayu and la. these are mainly fishbowls but well worth it as i've scored some absolute honeys there. watch out for mtr as i was date raped there by some chick who was trained up by some fat american guy who works in singapore and frequents the place. i'm always doing it to the girls myself so i sensed it as karma! hehehehe
Hey guys.
Finaly I can contribute something useful, hehehe.
Don't know about Sera Wati. The pic of Rena Ayu is fake. Not really fake, but it's an indonesian artist.
Behind this profile are about 6 Malioboro girls, each logging in with this profile, trying to make some extra income.
I got 2 mails from her (them).
I kept asking and after about 5 more email, she (they) told (wrote) the story.
Et voila, case closed.
DIA = Dis Is Awesome.
I've been cruising thru DIA and was curious if anyone has some war stories on Rena Ayu (Nice Tits) and Sera Wati (Gorgeous)? I don't want to join just in case the wife or the girlfriend find out. And I couldn't be fuc*ed with the lying and deception as I always tell all the girls I meet face to face that I'm married and have a girlfriend. I may be a scumbag but at least I'm not a lying scumbag. Hehehehe, anyway if anyone has anything on these two honeys please share.
Malibu21.
KangK.
Smoothy.
Mighty Spearsman.
Thank you for your help about the massage parlours. I plan to be in Jakarta for about a week and will stay in Kota area, possibly Mercure Hotel. Absolute certainties to visit are Hotel Travel and Classic Hotel for the 3some. I will also pop my head in to Oasis, Kartika and Berlain. Then there are other places like Red Square, Malioboro and Stadium that sound interesting, that I will visit if I have time. It's my understanding that 4pm. 6pm is the time to visit the massage parlours. At night I will sample the delights of Blok M and some of the discos.
Does this sound a reasonable itinerary? Are there any glaring omissions?
I also have a few more questions:
- What type of setup is Malioboro? I've heard it mentioned as a good option but despite searching the last 50 pages on this page, I can't find too many details.
- I read somewhere that "Kota Indah in Jakarta is gold star in terms of quality of girls". I think it was from another website but I haven't read anything about it on this forum. Is it out-of-date information?
- If you had to choose your favourite place in Kota to pick up girls at night-time (say, after 9pm) where would it be?
Once again, thanks for your help and I will certainly post a report.Try the Millie's Disco at Lokasari, it is at the back of your hotel, a 10 min walk, near the 24 hours McDonald.
The Millenium Disco at Gajah Mada, further down after stadium.
I miss the opportunity to visit these place, write a report when you come back.
I think Kota Indah is lousy version of stadium which visit by local, but I never been there.
The malioboro is high class spa type place like alexis, with sauna jaguzzi lounge. If my memory serve me right, the cheapest is 3XXk, then 8XXk. 1. XxM++, very expensive place. Above 1M is import stock from China, russia, korean. I'm not sure.
Hey Sabbath, thanks for the info as I don't feel so bad now and I bet there is a bit more of that same thing going on.
Another one there is christy69 which I'm positive I used to see at Top Gun all the time and who is / was married to an Expat. I'm sure its her as my mate boned her one night because she looked like his wife.
If you had to choose your favourite place in Kota to pick up girls at night-time (say, after 9pm) where would it be?I like Golden Crown. It's a stadium type of environment but without the short time rooms upstairs like in Stadium. But I find the local girls nicer and more naive than the Stadium chicks. They also have the topless dancers every couple of hours so that's nice as well. The main drawback for the place is the pain in the butt getting a decent taxi out of there. And it helps to speak bahasa there.
ChipAndDales83
02-17-11, 07:40
I heard in Malioboro they conduct a HIV test to the girls twice a year. Does anyone know about this for a fact?
I had a girl from malioboro frustated cause I could not ejaculate with condom on and she took it out and I'm done within 2 minutes. I am uncircumsized and I kinda freaking out a little right now about HIV.
Anyone here did HIV test after unprotected?
Christy 69 is real.)
Pretends to be a "good girl", no tax (I) money.
Don't think I've ever seen her in blok m. On the other hand when I visited blok m, my eyes were all on menteng, hehehe.
Bless up.
Hey Sabbath, thanks for the info as I don't feel so bad now and I bet there is a bit more of that same thing going on.
Another one there is christy69 which I'm positive I used to see at Top Gun all the time and who is / was married to an Expat. I'm sure its her as my mate boned her one night because she looked like his wife.
FreebieFan
02-17-11, 14:48
I always tell the girls the truth. It makes for a much simpler time. If they still agree to proceed, you both know where you stand. However, this doesn't mean they won't end up investing their emotions. It's happened to me a few times before. I'm not sure how your wife will find out. Unless you are careless and leave your computer on. I register under a pseudonym (as do half the girls anyway) have a separate email and yahoo messenger under my alter ego. So a search under my name will not garner any results. I also surf these sites and ISG using the Google Chrome incognito window so there's no history or cookies stored. Better to be safe and keep the computer clean.
MD IIWhen I first saw the message to which you replied, I was going to state exactly what you wrote. False name, false email, different and false name on YM, only thing real is the pic. Never leave business cards in the room, TV on a non intro channel (so they don't see the intro screen that has name on) , hide baggage tags that may have business cards inserted.
Guess we all play the same game. I love it when I see a repeat girl and she calls me by my totally made up name. And I'm thinking whos he? Ooops thats ME!
I like Golden Crown. It's a stadium type of environment but without the short time rooms upstairs like in Stadium. But I find the local girls nicer and more naive than the Stadium chicks. They also have the topless dancers every couple of hours so that's nice as well. The main drawback for the place is the pain in the butt getting a decent taxi out of there. And it helps to speak bahasa there.I heard this is a very good place too, too bad I don't have much time to check it.
So this one is a freelance place without any mamasan?
Try the Millie's Disco at Lokasari, it is at the back of your hotel, a 10 min walk, near the 24 hours McDonald.
The Millenium Disco at Gajah Mada, further down after stadium.
I miss the opportunity to visit these place, write a report when you come back.
I think Kota Indah is lousy version of stadium which visit by local, but I never been there.
The malioboro is high class spa type place like alexis, with sauna jaguzzi lounge. If my memory serve me right, the cheapest is 3XXk, then 8XXk. 1. XxM++, very expensive place. Above 1M is import stock from China, russia, korean. I'm not sure. Malioboro definitely is not up to par for presentation if we are comparing it with Alexis. I never tried the stocks in Malioboro. I will do that next visit maybe.
My information is not up to date. Last visit was over a year ago. Seniors with more information please update.
For Alexis, it has entry fee of Rp 140, 000. 00 paid after you are done. They will give you a locker key upon entry.
I will skip the luxurious looking bath, nice sandals, trunks and towels + pajama thats given with excellent service.
You walk to the main lounge, you will be approached by one of the managers. Have a seat and tell what you want.
Last time I checked, Indonesian girls (All pricing include room) go for Rp 800, 000. 00. Thailand has Normal Division, goes for Rp 1, 500, 000 and Model Division that apparently appears on Magazines Rp 1, 800, 000. 00. Chinese girls go for Rp 1, 800, 000 and Korean girls Rp 2, 100, 000. I forgot whether korean girl's price include the room or not. Please correct me. There were some Russians around. The good ones were picked out and the monstrous ones were left. I did not bother to inquire the price.
Well. After you picked your girl, go for the hot pool for a soak. The girl of your pick will follow soon in their bikini. I was indecisive and the manager asked the girl of my pick to strip out of her Pajama to show off her body. I was sold for a Thai model. Half hour of 'massage' thats pretty much flirting introduction, you are up for the room for one and half hour. You are through, feel free to soak again until you are ready to get out.
I did not order any drink then. But trust its going to be expensive. I hope this helps. Have fun!
Master Diver II
02-19-11, 01:23
When I first saw the message to which you replied, I was going to state exactly what you wrote. False name, false email, different and false name on YM, only thing real is the pic. Never leave business cards in the room, TV on a non intro channel (so they don't see the intro screen that has name on) , hide baggage tags that may have business cards inserted.
Guess we all play the same game. I love it when I see a repeat girl and she calls me by my totally made up name. And I'm thinking whos he? Ooops thats ME! Hahahahahaha. So true, so true. Most know me by my pseudonym although some who have become friends do actually know my name. Where are you now after leaving Malaysia? I do the same thing business cards in the room safe, everything kept away except for a small amount of cash for taxi money. And with most of the girls it really is taxi money or not at all (especially if they drove or had a chauffeur).
MD II
Mighty Spearsman
02-19-11, 06:14
Malibu21.
KangK.
Smoothy.
Mighty Spearsman.
Thank you for your help about the massage parlours. I plan to be in Jakarta for about a week and will stay in Kota area, possibly Mercure Hotel. Absolute certainties to visit are Hotel Travel and Classic Hotel for the 3some. I will also pop my head in to Oasis, Kartika and Berlain. Then there are other places like Red Square, Malioboro and Stadium that sound interesting, that I will visit if I have time. It's my understanding that 4pm. 6pm is the time to visit the massage parlours. At night I will sample the delights of Blok M and some of the discos.
Does this sound a reasonable itinerary? Are there any glaring omissions?
I also have a few more questions:
- What type of setup is Malioboro? I've heard it mentioned as a good option but despite searching the last 50 pages on this page, I can't find too many details.
- I read somewhere that "Kota Indah in Jakarta is gold star in terms of quality of girls". I think it was from another website but I haven't read anything about it on this forum. Is it out-of-date information?
- If you had to choose your favourite place in Kota to pick up girls at night-time (say, after 9pm) where would it be?
Once again, thanks for your help and I will certainly post a report. I sincerely appreciate your "thank-you's" and your promise to post a report.
But then you go ahead and once again ask a lot of questions. While it's tempting to answer your latest set of questions, or at least to tell you to RTFF and read 2007 posts by me (and others) about Malioboro, the reality is that there comes a time when one has to stop asking questions and actually do something & post about it! You've received more than enough info as it is.
The reality is that Jakarta is filled with good places, with a variety of different types of places to visit, from high-end to medium-end to low-end to soap-places to night clubs to smaller pick-up bars. Every place has at least a few pretty girls working there, even places like Kartika. You just have to be there when they're available.
By the way, I've had good luck at Kartika as early as 1 pm and as late as 9 pm. Some girls work only the day shift (ask for Cindy) and others don't arrive at work until 5 pm. My favorite girl at Berlian, Inna, doesn't start until 3 pm, but there's some cute girls there as early as 12 Noon.
So, stop asking questions and go out and have some fun! Then write a report here about what happened to you.
Last time I checked, Indonesian girls (All pricing include room) go for Rp 800, 000. 00. Thailand has Normal Division, goes for Rp 1, 500, 000 and Model Division that apparently appears on Magazines Rp 1, 800, 000. 00. Chinese girls go for Rp 1, 800, 000 and Korean girls Rp 2, 100, 000.I'm not sure I get why they charge prices based only on where the girl comes from. Chinese girls are 1. 8 million? Some of those girls are really hot, and some are very mediocre. What they should do is charge based on how good looking the girl is. Some of those Chinese girls should be 1. 8 (not many of them) , but most should be less.
DogBoy1976
02-19-11, 17:38
Does anyone know what time the 6th floor opens and closes? Does it open later on a Sunday?
Thanks in advance
That won't help you if she picked up something the day after the test. Sorry to add to your worries but I would suggest getting tested.
I had a girl from malioboro frustated cause I could not ejaculate with condom on and she took it out and I'm done within 2 minutes. I am uncircumsized and I kinda freaking out a little right now about HIV.
Anyone here did HIV test after unprotected?
Wow, sorry to hear about the bad experience but thanks for the report.
First, yes, don't expect every taxi to know every spot. One visit to Classic had my Bluebird taxi driver asking if this was the right one? I was wondering if there was more than one?
Second, I was not too impressed with Hotel Travel either. I will write a report later. Too busy and too sick.
Third, am surprised at your experience with CJs but maybe the girls are not as hungry there? I had initially said that a million was way too much but have a look at the General Info thread for Indonesia and there is a recent post about pricing.
Was that your whole trip or is there more?
First went to HT (Hotel Travel) for a late afternoon session. It was hard as hell to find, I just assumed every taxi drive should know such a place but it's not so. Searched and couldn't find the address in the forum so here it is.
The entrance for spa or whatever the place with the girls is to the left of the main hotel entrance.
For those not familiar it's a large lounge where you can eat, drink, have the company of a girl, and take her to a room for shag.
There was at least 30 girls available but IMHO they were not the greatest looking. Something like pudgy brown little oompa loompas. A few looked younger and cuter though.
I took a girl. They required payment in advance, no chance for later. It was 300k for an hour including the room.
Ream was clean and decent.
The girls I took while really cute ended up being incredibly annoying. Beyond the constant yammering that I couldn't understand she kept trying to put on the condom after 5 seconds of sucking. After about 15 minutes I was greatly annoyed and kicked her out and fetched managment. They offered that I could keep the room but would need to pay 150k for a new girl. Good enough. New girl was slightly less attractive but 1000% more enthusiastic. Finished in her mouth. I appreciate the customer service from management. Pretty good and patient by skeezy brothel standards.
A few nights later to CJs club in Hotel Mulia.
Girls here were better looking on average than at HT and a few really attractive ones but in general still not great.
A few oompa loompas approached me but I had 0 interest. I approached a few of the more attractive girls but basically got the brush off from all of them. Towards the end of the night (30 min before closing) I spotted a new one. Conversation was nice and friendly. But. She wanted one million (good enough, I'm horny and it's late) and. Wasn't even willing to stay 3 hours. Her exact words were 'you finish and then I go'.
So I went home alone.
Not the best introduction to mongering in the Jakarta. I just didn't see alot of great looking girls.
BTW, Bluebird group taxi's are great. Always ran the meter. Never any hassle. Every other type of cab I tried was terrible.
The point is you are taking their photos with the expectation that you will be making a profit (whether or not you do make a profit is irrelevant) and you cannot hide behind the idea that because there is a fee that only hardcore mongers will see the pics and not the girls themselves or people who know them. Who knows who's a monger. Let's face it, you're not going to put your face in the pics would you? Of course not, because you don't know who among your friends and family will recognize you.
You're in the UK, right? You better make sure that you are in the legal clear here because what I've realized is that the laws are much more strict the more "developed" a country becomes. I'm on an American forum and they're talking about pics being "private" or not depending on whether there is an expectation of privacy and whether or not you're on public or private property. Sheesh.
As for this site and the pics? Well, I am pretty sure that if one of the girls complained about their photo being up then this site will take it down. Have a look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_release
It pertains primarily to Americans but this site can be open to a suit if they even publish a photo without a model release. It's charging a fee for people to look at girls' pics and I am pretty sure that most of those girls don't know that their pics is going up on a site like this. Anyways, look it up. I am rambling because I am down with the flu.
I understand the point you make. The truth is that I only charge a fee for my diaries so that the girls contained within remain anonymous to the casual visitor (I hardly make any money). It's similar to this forum. There are thousands of pictures of girls but they are hidden away only to be seen by those who pay a subscription. It's my experience that girls are wary of the internet in case it reveals to their friends / family that they're hookers, so if a cost / subscription is introduced, it means that the photos only get seen by mongers.
In terms of sharing information and the 'ethos of the forum', again, I take your point. However, I would like to point out that I posted 8 HUGE field reports following my trip to Philippines last year and my 'Secret Diaries' blog contains lots of free information.
I'm not sure I get why they charge prices based only on where the girl comes from. Chinese girls are 1. 8 million? Some of those girls are really hot, and some are very mediocre. What they should do is charge based on how good looking the girl is. Some of those Chinese girls should be 1. 8 (not many of them) , but most should be less.In a way it sort of makes sense. When you think about just goods, imported products are more expensive than local produces naturally. This logic is totally flawed. But grading girls is just as flawed in my opinion. This is actually pretty neutral choice. Beside, it is up to you to pick the hot ones, no matter where they come from. They parade the girls in front of you anyway.
Have fun.
John Marigold99
02-20-11, 15:27
In a way it sort of makes sense. When you think about just goods, imported products are more expensive than local produces naturally. This logic is totally flawed. But grading girls is just as flawed in my opinion. This is actually pretty neutral choice. Beside, it is up to you to pick the hot ones, no matter where they come from. They parade the girls in front of you anyway.
Have funMaybe not a good comparison: Imported goods are typically more expensive because of import tariffs imposed by the gov't which (supposedly) protect local producers and (usually) help gather a few more votes in the next election. I am assuming that bottles of wine in Indonesia are so damn expensive because of these tarriffs. (I made the mistake of ordering a glass of merlot of TopGun last month; it tasted like pure vinegar. But anyways, I don't think of TopGun as the kind of place to drink wine.) Imported goods may also be more expensive because of transportation costs. This could possibly be somewhat of a factor, but I doubt it. I think it goes back to simple supply and demand. There is a limited supply of foreign working girls (relative to indonesian working girls) and there must clearly be enough demand for them to warrant the higher price. For those of us bule who don't find the extra value in the foreign girl, we simply pay the lower price for the lovely indo girls. Econ 101 I think.
Member #2041
02-20-11, 19:12
Econ 101 I think.If you're willing to explore some more advanced economic concepts, consider that in Indonesia, a low end high volume Indonesian hooker is probably what is known as a Giffen Good, and a foreign hooker at a place like Alexis would probably be known as a Veblen Good. These concepts are named for the economists who first identified them, as unusual products because they have positive price elasticity rather than the normal negative slope (I. E the consumption goes up as the price goes up, and consumption drops as the price drops). In the case of a Giffen Good, it's a low-end item where consumption increases as the price does due to a decreasing ability to afford better substitutes and a certain repulsiveness associated with doing the very cheapest hookers in any market, and in the case of a Veblen Good, it's a high end item where consumption increases as the price does due to greater status and prestige being attached to it and it's consumers because of it's known higher price.
John Marigold99
02-20-11, 20:44
If you're willing to explore some more advanced economic concepts, consider that in Indonesia, a low end high volume Indonesian hooker is probably what is known as a Giffen Good, and a foreign hooker at a place like Alexis would probably be known as a Veblen Good. These concepts are named for the economists who first identified them, as unusual products because they have positive price elasticity rather than the normal negative slope (I. E the consumption goes up as the price goes up, and consumption drops as the price drops). In the case of a Giffen Good, it's a low-end item where consumption increases as the price does due to a decreasing ability to afford better substitutes and a certain repulsiveness associated with doing the very cheapest hookers in any market, and in the case of a Veblen Good, it's a high end item where consumption increases as the price does due to greater status and prestige being attached to it and it's consumers because of it's known higher price.I agree that a Veblen effect is entirely possible here. Maybe we can continue this conversation over a beer at Top Gun sometime.
Sir Lancelot
02-21-11, 02:05
Danibbler,
Firstly, get well soon. I'm struggling a bit with a heavy cold too. Looking forward to some sunny weather in Indonesia. Secondly, I take on board what you are saying. I work in an industry that uses model-release forms but in this instance, I don't think they are at all practical or indeed worth the paper they're printed on as most hookers I've met don't give their real names anyway.
I read the link that you provided as it's an issue that has given me plenty to think about in the past. One line that stands out is that "Liability rests solely with the publisher", so the example I gave earlier. About ISG making money from subscriptions, one the benefits of which is seeing lots of photos of girls (none of whom have signed a model release form). Is a similar position to mine.
I presume that legally I'd be safe because otherwise surely sights like youtube, who publish videos of gogo bars for example, or even wikipedia who use photos on prostitutes, would be legally threatened. I'm guessing their legal teams are pretty clued up.
I'd be really interested to hear Jackson's take on this in terms of the legal situation.
Sir Lancelot
02-21-11, 02:16
I sincerely appreciate your "thank-you's" and your promise to post a report.
But then you go ahead and once again ask a lot of questions. While it's tempting to answer your latest set of questions, or at least to tell you to RTFF and read 2007 posts by me (and others) about Malioboro, the reality is that there comes a time when one has to stop asking questions and actually do something & post about it! You've received more than enough info as it is.
The reality is that Jakarta is filled with good places, with a variety of different types of places to visit, from high-end to medium-end to low-end to soap-places to night clubs to smaller pick-up bars. Every place has at least a few pretty girls working there, even places like Kartika. You just have to be there when they're available.
By the way, I've had good luck at Kartika as early as 1 pm and as late as 9 pm. Some girls work only the day shift (ask for Cindy) and others don't arrive at work until 5 pm. My favorite girl at Berlian, Inna, doesn't start until 3 pm, but there's some cute girls there as early as 12 Noon.
So, stop asking questions and go out and have some fun! Then write a report here about what happened to you.Don't worry, I intend to go out and have some fun. I just need to make sure I'm clued up beforehand, hence the blitz of questions!
I assure you though, that I RTFFTSAEMEB (read the f*ing forum to such an extent my eyes bled) and as such the only questions I have asked are because I wasn't able to find the relevant answers on the forum. I went back over 50 pages in the jakarta section alone, making notes, although admittedly it's quite possible that in my trance-like state, I missed stuff on Mariobolo. And while there is a LOT of great information on this site (about the massage parlours for example) , not many reports say what time they visited, a really key bit of information.
So anyway, where is the best place to stay in Jakarta?
That was a joke BTW.
Member #2041
02-21-11, 02:22
I agree that a Veblen effect is entirely possible here. Maybe we can continue this conversation over a beer at Top Gun sometime.I would love to, but alas, I am presently stuck in sex prison here in the USA.
I'm not sure I get why they charge prices based only on where the girl comes from. Chinese girls are 1. 8 million? Some of those girls are really hot, and some are very mediocre. What they should do is charge based on how good looking the girl is. Some of those Chinese girls should be 1. 8 (not many of them) , but most should be less.I went to a low-middle end place in Solo once that had a so-called "Chinese" girl working there. She might have had a grand-mother who was a local Chinese, but she was as dark as any Javanese. And butt ugly to boot. But she worked non-stop, queues outside her door. A local friend said that the local clientele just wanted to be able to say that they'd tried a Chinese girl.
Upon arrival at the airport, I notice they moved the immigration lines for foreigners to having to cue on the left of the walkway prior to arriving in the actual arrival hall. What a clusterfuck.
I went to a low-middle end place in Solo once that had a so-called "Chinese" girl working there. She might have had a grand-mother who was a local Chinese, but she was as dark as any Javanese. And butt ugly to boot. But she worked non-stop, queues outside her door. A local friend said that the local clientele just wanted to be able to say that they'd tried a Chinese girl.Now. That would be just cruel joke. For Chinese I mentioned in Alexis, it is Chinese as Chinese from China. Speaks not a single word of English, most of them. And they have very distinctive Chinese feature that mixed blood will fail to mimic most of the time. Their skin colour would be so milky that it might as well shine a little LOL!
Tough luck on you. Good luck for next one.
Those Chinese girls are from China. That is so true. But some of them are really really hot and others are mediocre. I don't understand how they can expect to charge the same for all of those Chinese girls. By the way, the mamasan who peddles those girls is hot. I'd like to have an hour and 1/2 in one of those rooms with her sometime.
I would welcome the views of fellow members.
I am currently in Cambodia and have some Singapore Airline air miles to use up and am considering a visit to Jakarta as I have never been there before what do you all think?
Where is the best places to visit for our hobby?
How much on average would one expect to pay for all night?
Where would you suggest I stay.
If not Jakarta I am open to suggestions, I have worked in Cambodia, Vietnam and Thailand so am looking for somewhere different.
Thanks
Nutty Smith
02-22-11, 14:20
Riverstar,
Suggest the South, near Blok-M. Gran Marakam is very nice but plenty of options at all price levels. Lots of info to be found on this thread. Enjoy!
NS.
I would welcome the views of fellow members.
I am currently in Cambodia and have some Singapore Airline air miles to use up and am considering a visit to Jakarta as I have never been there before what do you all think?
Where is the best places to visit for our hobby?
How much on average would one expect to pay for all night?
Where would you suggest I stay.
If not Jakarta I am open to suggestions, I have worked in Cambodia, Vietnam and Thailand so am looking for somewhere different.
Thanks
MrBill1963
02-22-11, 14:28
upon arrival at the airport, i notice they moved the immigration lines for foreigners to having to cue on the left of the walkway prior to arriving in the actual arrival hall. what a clusterfuck.smoothy, will have to disagree, the last few times i've gone through immigrations with the new system it went much quicker as you didn't have all of the tourist standing in the same lines. in the past those getting a visa on arrival needed to queue at the kiosk near the airside and then re-queue at the other immigration lines. now they purchase their visa on arrival and clear immigrations all at the same spot. from my experience this has speeded up the process. but then again maybe i was just lucky with my time of arrival.
smoothy, will have to disagree, the last few times i've gone through immigrations with the new system it went much quicker as you didn't have all of the tourist standing in the same lines. in the past those getting a visa on arrival needed to queue at the kiosk near the airside and then re-queue at the other immigration lines. now they purchase their visa on arrival and clear immigrations all at the same spot. from my experience this has speeded up the process. but then again maybe i was just lucky with my time of arrival.maybe just lucky. i was probably about person number 300 in the line. there were 3 lines open, but no organization. the distance between the immigration stand and the walkway allows about 15 people. people kept pushing in trying to get into one of the lines rather than creating one long cue and the next available being served. total clusterfuck. i've been coming to indonesia for 13 years and i've never had to wait so long. and i already have a work visa. i will say that if you are a permanent resident, it's better because you can go through the indonesian line in the main atrium as before. and it's also better for the people who are getting visa on arrival. but for those who already have a visa, the line was excrutiating. maybe i was just unlucky since i was taking the early morning sq flight from singapore and basically the entire flight was businessmen who already had visas.
I've always been a cheeky bastard and go to the Indonesian lines if the bule lines are too full even though I have a temporary resident visa much to the disdain of other bules. Always get hassled by a Indo official before I make it to the counter but he always lets me pass after he checks my visa.
Just a comment on the walk of shame that comes up from time to time.
The Intercontinental Hotel is located near the Meriden. It is not visible from the main road, and some of the older taxi drivers still think it is named Kampinsky. The hotel is 5-star just like the other big names in town, but it does not have a night club (it does have a quite nice massage spa, and those girls are willing to add the happy ending). The downside is that you have no choice but to go out, even if you'd rather just slide downstairs (like Meridien or Shangri-La.
The plus side is that it shuts down after 1-2am. The lights are off, the lobby is completely vacant, and even the night clerk is busy in the back room (busy sleeping, probably). Zero walk of shame. If she is leaving the next morning (hopefully she has a change of clothes) , no need to escort her down, as the doormen do not tend to hassle the girls. Most of them are young girls anyway.
It doesn't seem to be terribly secure like that, but the elevator will not run without a valid room key inserted.
Christy 69 is real.)
On the other hand when I visited blok m, my eyes were all on menteng, hehehe.
Bless up. Well. I do hope the other members will interprete this as: "I like to watch the way the girls treat Menteng". .
First, yes, don't expect every taxi to know every spot. One visit to Classic had my Bluebird taxi driver asking if this was the right one? I was wondering if there was more than one?There is (was?) another Classic almost in front of the main entrance of Hotel Jayakarta in Kota. It is not a hotel though, but with a lot of girls inside.
Is TC open now?Last Saturday night I was in Locasari Plaza and I noticed that the stairs going to up to TC have been torn out and the club is now part of a large parking deck. Not a trace of the TC is remaining. Oh Well!
Sky Dog
Member #3439
02-24-11, 05:23
I would welcome the views of fellow members.
Where is the best places to visit for our hobby?
How much on average would one expect to pay for all night?
Where would you suggest I stay.
ThanksThis is my idea of a good time:
Visit Hotel Travel in the mid afternoon, pop, eat dinner and then head to Berlain for cheap soapy massage, pop, then about 11 pm hit the Blok M bars.
500k-600k IDR to a Blok M girl for all night.
Stay at Mercure Rekso Hayum Waruk in the Mangga Besar area. No problem to bring a girl back. It is a good place to stay, close to the MP scene.
There is a nice restaurant at the Jayakarta Hotel down the street, check it out for duck, century eggs, etc.
Any incidentals can be purchased at Glodok/Lindeteves Trade Center or the Lokasari Plaza nearby. It's convenient.
Have fun in JKT. -pp
Fast Eddie 48
02-24-11, 07:17
Last Saturday night I was in Locasari Plaza and I noticed that the stairs going to up to TC have been torn out and the club is now part of a large parking deck. Not a trace of the TC is remaining. Oh Well!
Sky DogTo Sky dog,
No one will miss that place at all its been going down hill anyway and Hotel travel is just around the corner.
Fast Eddie 48
Last Saturday night I was in Locasari Plaza and I noticed that the stairs going to up to TC have been torn out and the club is now part of a large parking deck.. Damn!
It will be missed.
I first went to TC's around '95 and stopped going there around 2 years ago as there were too many girls there my daughters age and also too dark and bloody noisy. End of an era but something else always pops up elsewhere.
Travelin Dog
02-26-11, 09:20
[QUOTE=Dogboy1976; 1125026]Does anyone know what time the 6th floor opens and closes? Does it open later on a Sunday?
DB1976.
The Maribaya in Hotel Melawai 6th floor is open every day from 10 am Until about 1 in the morning. Shift change occurs at 5 pm Price is 450, 000 for 1 hour, all included. (+maybe 50, 000 tip). They are usually not very strict on the 1 hour time limit.
I was there last week, and the cewek told me they are soon to be closing down for renovations for a long time. Maybe call 1st to check if they are still open. Tel 021 739 7233.
Happy hunting.
P. S. Nice moniker!
Travelin Dog
02-26-11, 09:23
I sincerely appreciate your "thank-you's" and your promise to post a report.
But then you go ahead and once again ask a lot of questions. While it's tempting to answer your latest set of questions, or at least to tell you to RTFF and read 2007 posts by me (and others) about Malioboro, the reality is that there comes a time when one has to stop asking questions and actually do something & post about it! You've received more than enough info as it is.
The reality is that Jakarta is filled with good places, with a variety of different types of places to visit, from high-end to medium-end to low-end to soap-places to night clubs to smaller pick-up bars. Every place has at least a few pretty girls working there, even places like Kartika. You just have to be there when they're available.
By the way, I've had good luck at Kartika as early as 1 pm and as late as 9 pm. Some girls work only the day shift (ask for Cindy) and others don't arrive at work until 5 pm. My favorite girl at Berlian, Inna, doesn't start until 3 pm, but there's some cute girls there as early as 12 Noon.
So, stop asking questions and go out and have some fun! Then write a report here about what happened to you. Last week in HT, mamasan told me they also have a 2 girl special: 2 girls for 1. 5 hours for 450, 000. I will try it out next time.
Thanks for the info Travelin Dog as I'm going on R&R next Friday so I will try it out when I'm back from my 10 day surfing, sailing, & diving trip. Its been a while since I've been to HT's and about time I spread my pocket full of personality around the traps.
John Marigold99
02-26-11, 16:38
Last week in HT, mamasan told me they also have a 2 girl special: 2 girls for 1. 5 hours for 450, 000. I will try it out next time.Thanks for letting us know about this special. Life is good.
2 girl special: 2 girls for 1. 5 hours for 450, 000.Indeed, thats a very good deal since I love to take 2 girls.
Greetings from Angeles City! .
Has anyone every ventured into the "Korean Massage" place near Fortune and Delta in Grand Wijaya complex? I think there are actually two right next to eachother, but one offers hair cuts and the like.
Anway, what is offered there? It looks kind of interesting.
Thanks in advance.
Bbfs Hunter
02-28-11, 02:04
This is my idea of a good time:
Visit Hotel Travel in the mid afternoon, pop, eat dinner and then head to Berlain for cheap soapy massage, pop, then about 11 pm hit the Blok M bars.
500k-600k IDR to a Blok M girl for all night.
Stay at Mercure Rekso Hayum Waruk in the Mangga Besar area. No problem to bring a girl back. It is a good place to stay, close to the MP scene.
There is a nice restaurant at the Jayakarta Hotel down the street, check it out for duck, century eggs, etc.
Any incidentals can be purchased at Glodok / Lindeteves Trade Center or the Lokasari Plaza nearby. It's convenient.
Have fun in Jakarta..ppGood advice here except I would not hit up BlokM if you're staying in Kota area. Get the full experience and stick to the north area, you have places in Hayam wuruk, lokasari, gajah madah, etc.
Last week in HT, mamasan told me they also have a 2 girl special: 2 girls for 1. 5 hours for 450, 000. I will try it out next time.At Classic I think it's 400, 000 for the 2 girl special. End of last year.
Member #3439
03-02-11, 06:13
Good advice here except I would not hit up BlokM if you're staying in Kota area. Get the full experience and stick to the north area, you have places in Hayam wuruk, lokasari, gajah madah, etc.I find Kota great for daytime mongering, hence my recommendation of the Mercure, but at night time I found little to do except Hotel Travel or Stadium. So at night, I hit Top Gun, D's, etc in Blok M. But it's a looong taxi ride when you bring a girl from the Blok to Mercure Rekso!
Can you recommend some places to party at night in Kota, other than HT and Stadium?
Puta Playa, While I've only been there once, Malioboro is in that general area and blew me away the one time I went there, with JAD around midnight. I'll be returning the next time I'm in Jakarta. I wrote a short description in the following,
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1115339&viewfull=1#post1115339
Hey everyone! After reading all these amazing reports, Southeas Asia is definitely where I'm heading in 10 days. I just can't decide between Thailand, Philippines, and Idonesia. I've lived in Thailand and love it! I landed a non pro girlfriend right away though, and never experienced the P4P scene. I'm wondering in which country are the girls less inhibited, willing to do dirtier things. I'm for sure an Ass man, so which girls are more receptive to backdoor action? Philippine, Indonesian, or Thai women?
Thanks everyone!
Satyr
I would stay in hotel mulia there you have cjs and then you do not even have to go out you bring the girl directly from cjs up to your room. For me that was always the best place! And if you want to go other places you can always take a taxi!
I plan to bring my own big toys (a big vibrator eg rabbit vibrator) to have some fun when I come back to jakarta next time. I used to bring some small vibrator like bullet / egg size without any problem to most country. The problem is the size is too big and easy attract some custom guy to check it.
Anyone have some experience of bringing this big boy toys in.
Bbfs Hunter
03-05-11, 19:42
I find Kota great for daytime mongering, hence my recommendation of the Mercure, but at night time I found little to do except Hotel Travel or Stadium. So at night, I hit Top Gun, D's, etc in Blok M. But it's a looong taxi ride when you bring a girl from the Blok to Mercure Rekso!
Can you recommend some places to party at night in Kota, other than HT and Stadium? If you're not a budget monger, you got Malioboro, Millenium, Golden Crown, (MILLES! My favorite) , Sun City, etc.
Beyond that you've got streetwalkers in Hayam wuruk and lokasari. Also brothels in mangga besar and lokasari. Not to mention all the other places I've yet to explore beyond hayam wuruk and manga besar.
Bbfs Hunter
03-05-11, 19:46
Of course, it all depends on your taste. BlokM will always be cheaper and more comfortable for foreigners due to the crowd and freelancers. No house tax and all that.
Forgive me fellow mongers for I have sinned. I paid 1 juta for a CJs girl. Granted it was long time, she stayed until 1pm the next day but still I should know better. My little head, her gorgeous figure, little impish smile and the vast quantity of beer consumed got the better of me.
For my penance I promise to get a Blok M girl soon any pay no more than 400k.
Of course, it all depends on your taste. BlokM will always be cheaper and more comfortable for foreigners due to the crowd and freelancers. No house tax and all that.More comfortable for bules who don't speak any BI and are afraid to explore outside their comfort zones but by no stretch of the imagination could Blok M be described as "cheap".
The girls in Blok M charge approximately double what you'd pay in the Kota knocking shops and if those places aren't your scene then hook up with "ordinary" girls just looking to earn a little bit extra on the side, much fresher and more fun than the hardened pros of the Blok.
The hotels arond Blok M are much pricier too, you can get a transit room (six hour stay) in north or east Jakarta for less than 200k and the quality of room will be just the same as the cheapest option in Blok M, almost 500k in the Melawai if I'm not wrong.
FreebieFan
03-06-11, 13:07
I plan to bring my own big toys (a big vibrator eg rabbit vibrator) to have some fun when I come back to jakarta next time. I used to bring some small vibrator like bullet / egg size without any problem to most country. The problem is the size is too big and easy attract some custom guy to check it.
Anyone have some experience of bringing this big boy toys in.Have taken a 9inch (she requested it in black!)"toy" for a friend before. The guy asked me to open my bag and in one of those funny scenes I thought " Oh shit". No he just wanted to check that the tube of KY jelly wasnt bigger than 100mgs or whatever the liquid allowance.
But he did have a good root around the "bag" containing a few other smaller toys but didn't have anything to say except to check the KY jelly size.
So given the flight liquid restrictions these days, I assume one is better off separating the KY from the toys. Maybe but the toy inside a sock? Have been thinking about how to accomplish this myself.
Have taken a 9inch (she requested it in black!)"toy" for a friend before. The guy asked me to open my bag and in one of those funny scenes I thought " Oh shit". No he just wanted to check that the tube of KY jelly wasnt bigger than 100mgs or whatever the liquid allowance.
But he did have a good root around the "bag" containing a few other smaller toys but didn't have anything to say except to check the KY jelly size. They check liquid allowance AFTER the landing? I assume you flew in from abroad and they checked your cabin luggage before departure.
Mighty Spearsman
03-07-11, 15:28
The Maribaya in Hotel Melawai 6th floor is open every day from 10 am Until about 1 in the morning. Shift change occurs at 5 pm Price is 450, 000 for 1 hour, all included. (+maybe 50, 000 tip). They are usually not very strict on the 1 hour time limit.
I was there last week, and the cewek told me they are soon to be closing down for renovations for a long time. Maybe call 1st to check if they are still open. Tel 021 739 7233. I had to chuckle at the hidden message in the girl's statement, as it will certainly take "a long time" to properly do renovations at this place! Heck, even the carpeting dates back to the Sukarno era, LOL.
Seriously, I'll miss this place, it was always nice to have this place as a mid-afternoon option if I was in the area. I'm curious as to where the girls will end up working.
Mighty Spearsman
03-07-11, 15:41
Don't worry, I intend to go out and have some fun. I just need to make sure I'm clued up beforehand, hence the blitz of questions!
I assure you though, that I RTFFTSAEMEB (read the f*ing forum to such an extent my eyes bled) and as such the only questions I have asked are because I wasn't able to find the relevant answers on the forum. I went back over 50 pages in the jakarta section alone, making notes, although admittedly it's quite possible that in my trance-like state, I missed stuff on Mariobolo. And while there is a LOT of great information on this site (about the massage parlours for example) , not many reports say what time they visited, a really key bit of information.
So anyway, where is the best place to stay in Jakarta?
That was a joke BTW. I will immodestly suggest that you do a search on my posts between 2006-08 in the Jakarta thread, as I wrote several extensive posts on virtually every interesting place in Jakarta (except Hotel Alexis, which I've never visited) from the high-end girls at Malioboro & Sumo Shiatsu to the lowest-end girls inside the Kali Jodo brothels and the 50, 000 rupiah street girls near one of the train stations. I also posted "summary reports" every 6 months or so. Other than the price info, and the names of some of the young providers who have since moved on to somewhere else, most of what I wrote still applies.
Beyond that you've got streetwalkers in Hayam wuruk and lokasari. Also brothels in mangga besar and lokasari..Plan on Jakarta later this year. Just to clarify. Seems all like the Kota area for daytime activities. I'm familiar with local brothels in other countries where the brothels are very obvious. Always some pimps outside waving you in, is that the case here in places like mangga besar etc. Or does one need to know the exact address of the houses as they are more hidden?
Seem to have read somewhere prices for locals or those speaking the local language and able to negotiate pay about 100, 000r for a one shot deal here.
Stay at Mercure Rekso Hayum Waruk in the Mangga Besar area. No problem to bring a girl back. It is a good place to stay, close to the MP scene.Any other recommendations for hotels in this area besides the Mercure that are cheap in price and have ok rooms. Luxury not needed.
Seems alot on the Jakarta hotel thread deals with Blok M area and maybe the Hotel Blue Pacific would fit the bill at about $35 if I wanted to stay near Blok M. But trying to stay closer to Mercure hotel areas instead.
Could always go to Jalan Jaksa but heard this was not recommended area for our hobby even as the rooms maybe cheap.
Thanks.
PM me if you like.
FZ
Member #2041
03-08-11, 02:51
Any other recommendations for hotels in this area besides the Mercure that are cheap in price and have ok rooms. Luxury not needed.
Seems alot on the Jakarta hotel thread deals with Blok M area and maybe the Hotel Blue Pacific would fit the bill at about $35 if I wanted to stay near Blok M. But trying to stay closer to Mercure hotel areas instead.
Could always go to Jalan Jaksa but heard this was not recommended area for our hobby even as the rooms maybe cheap.
Thanks.
PM me if you like.
FZIf you have at least Starwood Gold status, The Sheraton is not bad. But I have heard that the regular rooms are nowhere near as well maintained as the SPG preferred rooms.
Sstudent01
03-09-11, 08:37
When I was on my way back home passing Arteri Pondok indah, I saw a new spa next to shell gas station. It's called The Magnolia Shiatsu & Sauna. I decided to drop by after looking at their giant ads for 50% off for all treatment. The first floor is the lounge. The interior is quite nice with comfy sofa, the good news they sell cheap beer for Rp. 18. 000 (U$1. 90). They sell food and snack like apple pie, brownies, danish, caldavos tart, cheesecake. I tasted caldavos tart and pies they are really tasty. I'd say the taste is close to the food sold by Starbuck's with only half the price of that Starbuck's.
Well let's move on to the fun part. Looking at their brochure, they provide all treatment from deep tissue massage, swedish massage, hot stone massage, herbal steam massage, body scrub to reflexology.
The price is starting from 58. 000 rupiahs ($5. 80) and the body massage is starting at 98. 000 rupiahs ($9. 80) for 90 minutes.
They open from 10. Am till 12 midnight.
Their phone # 7291182.
I haven't had a chance to try the treatment but I would give a try sometimes this week.
If you have at least Starwood Gold status, The Sheraton is not bad. But I have heard that the regular rooms are nowhere near as well maintained as the SPG preferred rooms.Thank you and Jk after dark for the replies.
Truth is if I had any status with any programs and score a cheap room (maybe even a free one) I would'nt have even mention the possibility of staying at places in Jalan Jaksa area-ha ha,
Trying to be a cheapy with the hotels so have the extra money for fun instead, but also don't want to be staying all the way outside of everything. Ah, trying to find the right balances in life.
Cheers.
FZ
Thank you and Jk after dark for the replies.
Truth is if I had any status with any programs and score a cheap room (maybe even a free one) I would'nt have even mention the possibility of staying at places in Jalan Jaksa area-ha ha,
Trying to be a cheapy with the hotels so have the extra money for fun instead, but also don't want to be staying all the way outside of everything. Ah, trying to find the right balances in life.
Cheers.
FZJl. Jaksa itself (not the mainstreets to and fro) is the cheapest. You might even bump into some chicks there. The best option however is I think hotel Olimpic and hotel Lokasari. Though TC has closed, there are still places within a five minutes walk or less from those hotels. Sierra, Madona, Bintang Mawar, Miles, Oasis spa, if they are still there, are next-door. You might even try your luck, hunting in the mall or on the premises of the Lokasari block.
Have taken a 9inch (she requested it in black!)"toy" for a friend before. The guy asked me to open my bag and in one of those funny scenes I thought " Oh shit". No he just wanted to check that the tube of KY jelly wasnt bigger than 100mgs or whatever the liquid allowance.
But he did have a good root around the "bag" containing a few other smaller toys but didn't have anything to say except to check the KY jelly size.I can't imagine what will happen if they try to test the big toys in front of all the people of airport.
It is worst than the "walk of shame".
Tenth Legion
03-11-11, 19:31
Alexis: a classy establishment- no drunken louts making fools of themselves, no seedy pimps, no pushers, no track marks on arms, no menacing bouncers and the other "atmospherics" you associate with bordellos.
The SOP must have been explained a dozen times here but here goes: Walk into the lobby and head towards the lift which are behind the reception desk. There's a curved corridor leading you there and you need to head right ahead without standing there and let any staff make "best offers". Take the lift to the Spa on the 7th floor; you will be given a numbered wrist band with an RF I'd which lets you open / close the locker with the same number as your wrist band.
Next you head to a hall packed with mongers and groups of girls herded about by Mamasans. Every stag entry / group is approached by a mamasan who lists the choices. Indonesians, Indonesian Models, Thai, Thai Models, Chinese, Korean and Uzbek / Russians. Price (excluding room,"spa charges", tip etc) ranges from 0. 8M to 1. 9M. I was about to choose this tall Thai model (beautiful eyes, high cheek bones, dangerous curves) when I noticed this cutie-pie girl (early 20s) in the Indonesian lineup this Aussie was reviewing. Waited out with bated breath as I firmly believe in "Bros before H0es" rule. Luckily that guy picked up this buff eight foot tall buxom Indonesian lady and left me free to select my girl. Mamasan tells me her name is Ratna and asked me to wait at the pool after changing.
Adjacent to this hall there's a mirrored locker room with a whole platoon of uniformed staff who will assist you in any way. You have to find your locker, put your clothes and belongings (except maybe cellphones and wallets) in the locker and change into the bathrobes provided. Get into the pool and wait for the girl to join you. Yes, she'll be wearing a flimsy bikini. Mine wore that Phoebe Cates bikini from Fast Times at Ridgemont High. After a bit of frolicking in the pool you can towel yourselves dry, change into a fresh robe and head to your room. Relax, the girls knows the drill and the way around the labyrinths.
The room is 3-star: The interior decorations, fixtures, themes were pretty tastefully done. No wonder they charge a hefty price on this too. Anyway, first you had the mandatory shower and towel down and then we get to the main event. Now this girl was quite sweet, clean, energetic. Quite GFE. Lots of heavy petting and kissing. Maybe it's because we hit off right away or maybe she's got an oral thing. Anyway, I remember our tongues did way more work than our plumbing with lots of DFK. 69, BBBJ, DATY and catbath.
After the time is up you got to fill in a form (no kidding) and enter tip amount, wristband number and give feed back. I tipped the girl a 100K and yes, it's an affirmative to WIR.
PS: BTW my spidey senses tell me this girl kinda new to this line and still young-and-naive. So it might be worth your time if you DON'T take the wham-bang-thank-you-ma'am approach with her.
Is Jakarta an easy place to find motobike rentals and explore on my own or is it a place where everyone hails a taxi?
I always like the option of going around on my own and at my own pace.
FZ
Alexis: a classy establishment- no drunken louts making fools of themselves, no seedy pimps, no pushers, no track marks on arms, no menacing bouncers and the other "atmospherics" you associate with bordellos. [. ]
After the time is up you got to fill in a form (no kidding) and enter tip amount, wristband number and give feed back. I actually did find them rather pushy and snide at times. We left a couple of bags with reception, and they asked us something like 100K rupiah for the privilege when we came down. Our bill was several million rupiah for the two of us, so not gouging a bit extra for the bags would have been classy. Also the guys hanging around the entrance are pretty aggressive about getting a tip as you leave. And I don't appreciate getting a form with a field for a tip amount, to be filled out on the spot. What and whether I tip is up to me, especially after I just paid around 1M. As it happens, I have had better sessions with girls in Stadium and Travel, among other places, so I didn't feel eager to give a tip. In fact, my girl was hung-over and coughing, and chatting to her I learned that she spent the previous night at Stadium in the disco. I took the form and said I'd think about it and give it to the mamasan afterwards. The mamasan never dropped by, though we spent another two hours in the lounge area.
Tenth Legion
03-12-11, 07:33
I actually did find them rather pushy and snide at times. ..... The mamasan never dropped by, though we spent another two hours in the lounge area.The heavies were quite courteous when I went last week. Maybe they got some complaints about the staff and the muscle running their own shows. The mamasans I dealt with had the air of an art dealer; I. E. Unlike your usual used-car-salesman mamasans. Maybe they take customer feedback very seriously.
Anyway, can you take home the ladies? I saw a couple of Japanese business men fill a whole van with the choicest WGs as I left the place. If that's an option there are a couple of stunners in the Thai lineup who are well worth a 2. 5M (extrapolated figure. No idea of takeout LT rate) LT session.
The girl I selected didn't have any idea of "fire and ice" service. Not even when I used the magic words "will give lot more tip, yes". Well, as I said I think she's new to this line. I guess you have to ask the mamasans on the services offered, eh?
Berguling Lagi
03-12-11, 08:31
I had to chuckle at the hidden message in the girl's statement, as it will certainly take "a long time" to properly do renovations at this place! Heck, even the carpeting dates back to the Sukarno era, LOL.
Seriously, I'll miss this place, it was always nice to have this place as a mid-afternoon option if I was in the area. I'm curious as to where the girls will end up working. I checked out Maribaya today. Still open and not closing until May or June according to the girls I spoke to. One of them will keep me updated by SMS if there is any change to that. New girl there today name of Dila. 19 years old, slim, nice body but a bit 'inexperienced' so as is my usual practice in this situation I take a double and make sure the other is an experienced girl who can give the 'newbie' some tutoring.
The girls are complaining about lack of customers. MS maybe your post about the place closing down has turned a few mongers away. Well there is still the odd gem there for a few more months at least so guys get back there.
Berguling Lagi
03-12-11, 08:37
Fot the last few weeks I can only access ISG through a proxy site while I'm in Indonesia.
I'm curious if others are having this problem generally or whether it is just the hotel I'm staying in that is block the site. Whatever, it is a pain in the neck because I also have to keep changing proxy sites because they are getting blocked as well.
(Alexis: a classy establishment- no drunken louts making fools of themselves, no seedy pimps, no pushers, no track marks on arms, no menacing bouncers and the other "atmospherics" you associate with bordellos.
The SOP must have been explained a dozen times here but here goes: Walk into the lobby and head towards the lift which are behind the reception desk. There's a curved corridor leading you there and you need to head right ahead without standing there and let any staff make "best offers". Take the lift to the Spa on the 7th floor; you will be given a numbered wrist band with an RF I'd which lets you open / close the locker with the same number as your wrist band.)
Better to do is open the locker with your wrist band put your clothes in te locker put on the grey shorts on and put on the green alexis bathcoat then put slip your feet in the blue slippers than you walk to the main hall were you can see the bar and front of them are the black sofa's where the lokals sit on the left on the right side the Chinese and far to the left the thai girls. Choose your girls go to the swimming pool do your girlf friend experience than go to the rooms downstairs you can choose normal with only a tv or deluxe suite with jacuzi and big tv and do you job haahahha
Tommy Suharto
03-12-11, 13:07
Whatever, it is a pain in the neck because I also have to keep changing proxy sites because they are getting blocked as well.Berguling lagi, I guess there will also be some other good unblocking software available, but have you tried UltraSurf? You can find it by typing it in Google. It is freeware and has good reviews. It allows you to overcome blockage and gives you some privacy in the form of anonymous surfing, cheers.
Is Jakarta an easy place to find motobike rentals and explore on my own or is it a place where everyone hails a taxi?
I always like the option of going around on my own and at my own pace.
FZYour best bet would jalan Jaksa. I remember a travel agency renting those.
Your best bet would jalan Jaksa. I remember a travel agency renting those.Ha, I had thought of avoiding staying here even though the room prices are cheapest but read somewhere it was not preferred because most P4P girls won't go back with you if you stayed here.
But if motobikes are available at JJ, then I may end up finding a room here as well.
FZ
BTW, has anyone ever stayed here before (Jalan Jaksa)?
John Aldrich
03-13-11, 01:08
Fot the last few weeks I can only access ISG through a proxy site while I'm in Indonesia.
I'm curious if others are having this problem generally or whether it is just the hotel I'm staying in that is block the site. Whatever, it is a pain in the neck because I also have to keep changing proxy sites because they are getting blocked as well. Am in Africa and I find that many websites are blocked here. Would appreciate if you could help me in accessing proxy websites.
Am in Africa and I find that many websites are blocked here. Would appreciate if you could help me in accessing proxy websites.When I was in Jakarta last month, ISG was blocked, but I can access it from Cambodia, where I am now. As with the other requests, I would like to learn more about proxy sites to get around the censors. Thanks.
Bule2004
Berguling Lagi
03-13-11, 04:32
Berguling lagi, I guess there will also be some other good unblocking software available, but have you tried UltraSurf? You can find it by typing it in Google. It is freeware and has good reviews. It allows you to overcome blockage and gives you some privacy in the form of anonymous surfing, cheers.TS haven't tried that one but have tried many others and the usual pattern is that they are only good for a few days because the internet blockers are actively chasing proxy sites so all we can do is try to stay a step or two ahead.
To that end I would suggest you don't post details of any useful proxy sites because on the assumption that this forum is being monitored that will only hasten their demise. I suggest passing the information around by PM instead.
Berguling Lagi
03-13-11, 04:54
Am in Africa and I find that many websites are blocked here. Would appreciate if you could help me in accessing proxy websites.JA I have sent you a PM with some info.
Tenth Legion
03-13-11, 05:02
I have used Hotspot Shield from AnchorFree in the Middle East; the big banner which appears on top of every page is an eyesore but the program *always* gets you to the sites you want.
BTW, which ISPs are banning ISG etc?
Berguling Lagi
03-13-11, 05:18
When I was in Jakarta last month, ISG was blocked, but I can access it from Cambodia, where I am now. As with the other requests, I would like to learn more about proxy sites to get around the censors. Thanks.
Bule2004Bule2004 I have also sent you a PM
Ha, I had thought of avoiding staying here even though the room prices are cheapest but read somewhere it was not preferred because most P4P girls won't go back with you if you stayed here.
But if motobikes are available at JJ, then I may end up finding a room here as well.
FZ.
BTW, has anyone ever stayed here before (Jalan Jaksa)? I have stayed there in the past. Why don't you stay in a hotel of your preference and rent a bike in JJ? Do keep in mind however, that thieves prey on motorbikes!
BTW, if you focus on mongering in the northern part: the Kota, Lokasari and Pangeran Jayakarta area. 95% of the action is in-house.
The girls that are reluctant to come to your JJ hotel are from the Blok M area or gather in the five star hotel bars, like CJ, BATS or Tigapuluh. They are more expensive anyway.
Third option is finding a girl in the JJ area itself.
John Aldrich
03-13-11, 23:13
JA I have sent you a PM with some info.Thanks a million. Really appreciate
Hi Guys,
Going to be in Jakarta for one night later this month My question is that I have one night which happens to be a Monday night (I fly out around lunch time the following day) What is a good spot on Monday nights? Are the Blok M bars busy? Is there any place nearer the airport that has some good ayam bars? What is a good hotel to stay? I prefer the bar pick-up scene as opposed to MPs. Any help is appreciated!
Third option is finding a girl in the JJ area itself.There are girls on the street at night. You don't have to go looking, just stroll down the road and they'll make you an offer. They'll even shout across the street at you or bang on the side of your taxi to attract your attention. Or try Memories for a (very slightly) more upmarket experience. That's probably the best reliable place, but I'd have to say, the cost-for-value ratio isn't really that good.
Tenth Legion
03-14-11, 15:30
Near the junction of Mangga Besar and Hayam Wuruk (down Hayam Wuruk Road) I have seen like 4-5 girls (range 5-7 of 10) , always dressed casually, scanning the passerbys. This was like 10-11 PM, on three or four nights when I went to Royal / Berlain / Kartika. They always stand near the entrance of the businesses that have closed for the night. In rather dim light. Thing is they don't look like your average street walker (well they wear little denim shorts and T-shirt / tops but that's pretty much the favored dress of the Orient) but they are actually "chaperoned" or watched over by guys on bikes. They ain't got silver canes and shades and bling bling and mink coats nor look like leg-breakers either. I watched the girls for some time one night and I noticed they walk up the bikes once in a while, talk to the men and return to their stations.
One could easily I'd the WGs in h*e paint and dress (and maybe the odd p1mp watching from a nearby ill-light spot) in JJ and a couple of squares up north Jakarta. But these ladies in Hayam Wuruk kinda confuse my radar. Anyone got a handle on this phenomena? At least noticed this pattern elsewhere? Is this place another pick-up lane? And what is the business model. Biker notes car numbers or chaperons the clients and his charge to their den?
Ibn Buttita
03-16-11, 00:28
I liked that class on Comparative Politics in college. Or was it Comparative Literature? Anyway, I love ISG and have read plenty, but sometimes it's hard to compare different mongering destinations without getting some direct expert input. So my solution is to just ask. I'm planning one last major mongering bender in mid April (10-14 days). I hope not to give up the hobby, but in a few months I'll have to pursue it on 'l little here, a little there' basis. In short, one last full-on sex vacation coming up. Sooo. . .
Where to go? I know we have some well-traveled mongerers on the board, so I'm looking for some comparative perspective from guys who have been to the places on this board plus the others I list below. Here are my options; they seem like gaps in my mongering resume I need to fill. (One factor: I have to justify the trip as tourism, so for example a strictly Bangkok trip would definitely raise red flags). Here goes:
Jakarta – Cost to travel $650 – Pros: Wild girls (threesomes) at Jakarta places, prices seem fair, would like to visit Sumatra so Jakarta a good launch point. Cons: Been to Jakarta and didn't love the city, and that seems like the only place to really monger on the trip; Indo girls nice, but may want more diversity.
Macau, Changping, Hong Kong (with possible Bangkok layover). Cost to Travel $1000 to $1400 – Pros:; like the idea of trying KTV and Chinese saunas; Can visit a relative in Macau so I have a good pretext to go; Want to go now before scene gets shut down or too pricey; Bangkok layover chance a big plus. Cons: US visa issue, no Chinese language, Macau saunas seem a bit pricey, lots of reports about Chinese girls being too mechanical, though I have contradictory experience in KL and elsewhere. . .
Brazil (Rio) – Cost to travel about $1400 – Pros: I generally love Latinas and tan lines and diverse looks, and what I hear about Brazilian girls in bed (confirmed at an FKK and LMP) ; Cons: I would be there around and during holy week; Termas seem expensive and exchange rate to dollar not great; No Portuguese but I've managed with no Spanish in other countries and so maybe can fake it; Been there once (pre mongering days) and want to do non-mongering activities but trip not long enough to see lots of Brazil.
Other options: Colombia, Manila: been to both places recently, great sex / price, but don't have lots of time to see new parts of country to justify going.
Thanks for indulging my indecision!
Playboy2001
03-16-11, 02:39
Fellow Mongers might now be knowing that the system has been changed at Tropical Spa. New system is massage+FS all in 90 minutes (which was previously separate sessions of 90+60 minutes with seperate girls) for RP 410, 000.
Now question is: Is there any spa at Jakarta which offers services where in massage of 90 minutes plus FS of 45-60 minutes with a separate girl? Thanks for the feedback.
The Frenchman
03-16-11, 11:35
Hi All.
About 2. 5 years ago I was fortunate enough to have layby in Jakarta for 4 days
At that time I managed to have a great deal if fun with a couple of girls from Topgun / myplace in blok m.
They were called sita and shita (perhaps assumed names) , they lived in the same large house not far away with several other wg.
One was darker and one was lighter skinned and very slim.
I would plan to go back to Jakarta in the near future and would like to know if they are still on the circuit to re-live the fun
Any news is appreciated
The frenchman
Vageterian
03-16-11, 20:48
Seeing alot of posts about jalan jaksa lately so will throw in my experience from there. Was with a friend in the area looking for a late night travel agency. No agencies able to do international flights after 10pm so my friend and I sat at a local watering hole. Can't remember the name but they had uniforms like the Jco coffee place.
Started to get my drink on and decided I wanted a get my freak on. While this is not my usual venue I wanted to sample what this famous street had to offer. Probably over paid but was offered 2 girls a room with a shower for 650000. Finally got up to the room and it wasn't a shower but a bucket of water with a scoop and the girls were definately not up to par. Spent a little more than an hour with them. I was given BBBJ and passed on any kind of kissing. FS with both and was offered bareback but laughed at that idea, I really want to double up actually. In my 4 months in jakarta I have mongered out in the city solo and used advice from this site. Since I am young I usually never have a problem finding the freebies. But in the end thats the shit that ends up costing more in the long run. I would advise anyone new to jakarta to take the jakarta after dark tour. I will when I return. This city is all about who you know and I am sorry I never booked that tour when I first got to town. Someone that can provide connections is a valued friend in jakarta for sure.
Also I don't know if the horrible rumour I read is true that the 6 th floor melawai is closing down, but that is a damn shame
I have stayed there in the past. Why don't you stay in a hotel of your preference and rent a bike in JJ? Do keep in mind however, that thieves prey on motorbikes!
BTW, if you focus on mongering in the northern part: the Kota, Lokasari and Pangeran Jayakarta area. 95% of the action is in-house.
The girls that are reluctant to come to your JJ hotel are from the Blok M area or gather in the five star hotel bars, like CJ, BATS or Tigapuluh. They are more expensive anyway.
Third option is finding a girl in the JJ area itself. Thanks for the reply.
Sucks that they eye the motobike as it is my usual method of local travel almost anywhere in SEA.
When you said 95% of action up north is in-house, are you referring to local brothels?
Drop me a PM if you don't wish to post any local sites. Thanks.
FZ
Primo Bolan
03-18-11, 09:02
Read the forum and some of you recommend this guy. I'm not a heavy drinker is he still a good investment to a Jakartanewbie?
I'm a bit tired of LOS and Phils massageparlours and GoGos. But I'm to pussy to try new things. And it all ends up with the same countries to visit. Same thing last month. Now I have to try something else.
I think that he can help me in only two of his tour-things.
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Jakarta
3. Help dealing with situations
Menteng! Do you have a course in how to hook up with women in the Jakarta-malls? Thats a new thing for me.
PB
TL,
Keep away from these bitches as I have asked several taxi drivers over the years and these are scam artists where the ***** takes you back to a pre arranged hotel where you do the deed but halfway thru you get busted by a fake cop or someone pretending to be the husband. You end up being extorted for them to keep quite. Look but don't indulge.
Near the junction of Mangga Besar and Hayam Wuruk (down Hayam Wuruk Road) I have seen like 4-5 girls (range 5-7 of 10) , always dressed casually, scanning the passerbys. This was like 10-11 PM, on three or four nights when I went to Royal / Berlain / Kartika. They always stand near the entrance of the businesses that have closed for the night. In rather dim light. Thing is they don't look like your average street walker (well they wear little denim shorts and T-shirt / tops but that's pretty much the favored dress of the Orient) but they are actually "chaperoned" or watched over by guys on bikes. They ain't got silver canes and shades and bling bling and mink coats nor look like leg-breakers either. I watched the girls for some time one night and I noticed they walk up the bikes once in a while, talk to the men and return to their stations.
One could easily I'd the WGs in h*e paint and dress (and maybe the odd p1mp watching from a nearby ill-light spot) in JJ and a couple of squares up north Jakarta. But these ladies in Hayam Wuruk kinda confuse my radar. Anyone got a handle on this phenomena? At least noticed this pattern elsewhere? Is this place another pick-up lane? And what is the business model. Biker notes car numbers or chaperons the clients and his charge to their den?
Just arrived back at work after 5 days in the Sunda Strait surfing and fishing and another 5 days in Bali with my GF. Arrived back Jakarta on Wednesday 16th and sent the GF back to Kalimantan straight from Sokaerno-Hatta and I went straight to the Grand Kemang and checked in around 13. 30 with my pre-arranged regular Frida dropping around 14. 00 to perform her BBBJCIM magic. Unfortunately my other regular. 18 yr old tall slender full rounded breasts and tight pussy was on the rags so around 15. 00 caught a taxi to go to Hotel Classic but unfortunately on Wednesday Jakarta experienced a really windy heavy rain squall which made me change my itenary. Fell asleep in the taxi near Pasar Raya and woke up around 30 minutes later about 200 metres from Pasar Raya as the road near the Main Cop Shop was flooded with numerous trees blocking the roads so I told the driver to take me to 5+1 so I can have a beer and indulge myself whilst waiting for the kaos on the road to be maintained. The 6th Flr is very sad indeed as the quality has certainly diminished to the worst I have ever seen it. Good news for the mongers is that Shela is back working there. I fronted Shela for a massage but she knocked me back with an excuse that she was still 'meriang' feverish.
Getting knocked back by a working girl certainly made me feel great. Hehehehe, about 2. 2 1/2 years ago I picked Shela up from Top Gun and used to aquire her services quite regularly until I got the dreaded green drip from her as she was the only one I had screwed recently without using a beret. Anyway I rang her up to tell her she needs to see a doctor and she straight away got irrationally upset with me and told me that I was a dirty disgusting maggot and that I was the problem and she never wanted to see me again. I even offered to pay for her medical myself at SOS but she told me to Fu*k Off. Anyway foolish me for thinking that time would heal old injuries and even working girls are corruptible with a pocket full of personality. So there I was stuck in the 6th Floor wirh a horde of ugly fuglies and the only hot one there still hating my guts. Thank god for alcohol to make a bad situation bearable. Finally left 5+1 around 17. 15 and surveying some of the new shifters but still very disappointing so jumped in a cab without indulging and headed off to Kota. Still kaos aand carnage on the roads but luckily the cab driver used the bus lane from Ratu Plaza to just before the Semanggi overpass as it was macet city. Ended up getting stuck in traffic kaos again in Jl Thamrin so after around 1/2 hour of moving 100m I paid the taxi and jumped out ans started walking several kms up until the museum near Monas where I jumped on a ojek who took me to Hotel Classic. Hotel Classic is rocking and has by far the best looking girls on average anywhere plus with the 2 for 400 trick is icing on top.
Ended up doing a double act (Tia & Yani) then 1 single Lisa, and left around 22. 00 as I wanted to get back to Sportsmans for 1/2 a baby back ribs and some beef jerky. After having a feed I checked out D's place which is still the same, pretty damn average then shot across to TG where things were pretty disappointing also as I'm pretty damn picky and only want chicks with nice tits, nice looking and no kids. I then went across to My Bar and that was pretty quiet too so I decided to go home alone after working out why I was feeling so rooted. That morning in Bali I had got my morning glory with my GF then flew to Jakarta and got a great BBBJCIM from Frida then went to the Classic which produced 3 Classics for me. So I went home and had a good mornings sleep 02. 00. 08. 00.
Next day get to my office around 10. 00 sort out my business then take off and arrive at Kota Indah around 14. 30. Start off at Royal with average looking girls in the Fish Bowl, my average is probably HOT for a lot of punters, don't stay long then head over to Sari Ayu without any stunners also so I head over to LA where I have my first beer while purveying the goods on offer. Still no bites so check out MTR with the same result. Jump on a ojek and head straight to HT unfortunately as I walk in the one that I want walks right in front of me with her bag heading off upstairs to perform her duties with some other punter. She is tall slender and full well rounded plump beautiful breasts as far as one can tell with clothes on. How many times have we been fooled by the wonder bra.
I'm getting fussier and fussier as I leave HT withour indulging also so head straight to HC where my dreams are fulfilled again with a bevy of beauties. HC absolutely rocks and always satisfies my very very fussy and particular requirements.
Now I'm back at work suffering and celibant until I get to go back to Another Typical Day in Jakarta again.
I'm glad I have a steady GF as there is only so much pussy you can poke without getting sick of it and the scene. Next time I go to the Block I willl take my GF so I end up going home with the hottest chick and not sitting there complaining on how good it was in the Good Old Years.
Dear all,
Planning a trip to Indonesia in May / June, and would like to spend some time in Jakarta as well. Which clubs, privates, escort agencies offer Russian or Ukraine girls? You might think I am stupid trying to find these type of nationalities in Jakarta, but don't have the intention to visit Moscow or Kiev. Was just wondering therefore. Any of you who could help me out?
Thanks!
Vogel
Read the forum and some of you recommend this guy. I'm not a heavy drinker is he still a good investment to a Jakartanewbie?
I'm a bit tired of LOS and Phils massageparlours and GoGos. But I'm to pussy to try new things. And it all ends up with the same countries to visit. Same thing last month. Now I have to try something else.
I think that he can help me in only two of his tour-things.
2. Advice on the most interesting places in Jakarta
3. Help dealing with situations
Menteng! Do you have a course in how to hook up with women in the Jakarta-malls? Thats a new thing for me.
PBJAD can also prevent you from being ripped off and he knows a lot of things beyond mongering.
You're a foreigner, so follow the Master in mall-hunting: Bulai69. He wrote about his tactics in the past (use the search function to find his postings).
Primo Bolan
03-18-11, 16:46
JAD can also prevent you from being ripped off and he knows a lot of things beyond mongering.
You're a foreigner, so follow the Master in mall-hunting: Bulai69. He wrote about his tactics in the past (use the search function to find his postings). Thanks Menteng! Well he wrote this some time ago:
"I say that with some trepidation because I'm not an accomplished mall hunter like some here." He must be joking.
I will follow in his and your steps like a maniac. I had my ticket today, feels like victory.
PB
Dear all,
Planning a trip to Indonesia in May / June, and would like to spend some time in Jakarta as well. Which clubs, privates, escort agencies offer Russian or Ukraine girls? You might think I am stupid trying to find these type of nationalities in Jakarta, but don't have the intention to visit Moscow or Kiev. Was just wondering therefore. Any of you who could help me out?
Thanks!
VogelYou can find Russian girls (most of them are from Uzbekistan) in clubs such as Malioboro, Alexis, Classic hotel SPA, Sumo (Kelapa Gading). IMHO the hottest ones are in Malioboro.
Well the quality of te uzbeks in Alexis are so so you can better opt for the Chinese (chungko) or the thai models in Alexis and the most important is that the service of the uzbeks is sometimes bad and from the chines+thai are always good even the vietnam are good I can recommend that you try MIE from vietnam she has nice boobs and pussy is tight as hell she gives very good GFE.
Vageterian
03-19-11, 03:02
Thanks Menteng! Well he wrote this some time ago:
"I say that with some trepidation because I'm not an accomplished mall hunter like some here." He must be joking.
I will follow in his and your steps like a maniac. I had my ticket today, feels like victory.
PBWell I can add a recent perspective. I was meeting a internet lady at plaza semanggi for lunch and and we went into the American grill for lunch and I noticed this cutie working one of the stalls outside, great body, good tits and a knee length skirt. I took the seat so I could look out and maintain eye contact. She kept looking and smiling. My date couldn't see anything. When my date went to the toilet this sales ladies obviously gay friend pointed to her and motioned if I wanted her handphone number. So I smiled and nodded and pointed to my dates empty chair and laughed. After lunch and we left my date went to fix her make up and I got the digits. Called her that night and took her out for dinner the next night and fucked her. Other than dinner and taxi money it was a freebee. Just if you see something you like watch her, play it cool and make lots of eye contact and smile. Indonesia is the land of smile, use it to your advantage
I forgot to mention when I was at Hotel Travel I asked about the double act and it is 2 girls for 500k for 1. 5 hrs.
I'm very biased as I still reckon HC is the best.
EagerBeaver8
03-19-11, 14:43
You can find Russian girls (most of them are from Uzbekistan) in clubs such as Malioboro, Alexis, Classic hotel SPA, Sumo (Kelapa Gading). IMHO the hottest ones are in Malioboro.Mojito, I'm 100% with you. They have the most samples of any kind to suit everybody's budget. From 300k locals at the Wine Bar across the Malio Lounge to the 1. 7 mil Colombian beauty. Great place to be. From Spa to FJ and then later resign to the discos with exuberant live table top strip tease show. What a place to be!
A pic of eternal pleasure with a Colombianos.
John Aldrich
03-20-11, 02:14
Well I can add a recent perspective. I was meeting a internet lady at plaza semanggi for lunch and and we went into the American grill for lunch and I noticed this cutie working one of the stalls outside, great body, good tits and a knee length skirt. I took the seat so I could look out and maintain eye contact. She kept looking and smiling. My date couldn't see anything. When my date went to the toilet this sales ladies obviously gay friend pointed to her and motioned if I wanted her handphone number. So I smiled and nodded and pointed to my dates empty chair and laughed. After lunch and we left my date went to fix her make up and I got the digits. Called her that night and took her out for dinner the next night and fucked her. Other than dinner and taxi money it was a freebee. Just if you see something you like watch her, play it cool and make lots of eye contact and smile. Indonesia is the land of smile, use it to your advantageHi vegetarian. Keep this info confidential. If not Jakarta will become like Bangkok and we will shell out much more than what we do in other places. Jakarta is a secret and let it remain a secret. It's beneficial for you, me and other regular mongers. Why get others into the game and Jack up the price. So. Hssssssshhhhhhhhh.
Vageterian
03-20-11, 03:19
Hi vegetarian. Keep this info confidential. If not Jakarta will become like Bangkok and we will shell out much more than what we do in other places. Jakarta is a secret and let it remain a secret. It's beneficial for you, me and other regular mongers. Why get others into the game and Jack up the price. So. Hssssssshhhhhhhhh.Does that mean we should close the thread. The services I recieved were free and no money exchanged hands. That can be done in any country of city in the world and does not influence the prices.
Primo Bolan
03-20-11, 07:47
Well I can add a recent perspective. I was meeting a internet lady at plaza semanggi for lunch and and we went into the American grill for lunch and I noticed this cutie working one of the stalls outside, great body, good tits and a knee length skirt. I took the seat so I could look out and maintain eye contact. She kept looking and smiling. My date couldn't see anything. When my date went to the toilet this sales ladies obviously gay friend pointed to her and motioned if I wanted her handphone number. So I smiled and nodded and pointed to my dates empty chair and laughed. After lunch and we left my date went to fix her make up and I got the digits. Called her that night and took her out for dinner the next night and fucked her. Other than dinner and taxi money it was a freebee. Just if you see something you like watch her, play it cool and make lots of eye contact and smile. Indonesia is the land of smile, use it to your advantageThanks V! Great report, it seems though that Jakarta is only for the supermongers.
PB
Jkt After Dark 2
03-21-11, 05:45
Does that mean we should close the thread. The services I recieved were free and no money exchanged hands. That can be done in any country of city in the world and does not influence the prices.Hmm, very interesting. But let me ask you a question. Since when it's not about the money? I'm surprise it never crossed in your mind that she was actually expecting but reluctant to discuss upfront. And in the end, she was also reluctant to ask before parting. Anyway, if you succeed doing what you did to the same girl at least for the second time then I'll agree with your "free pussy" statement.
Please be reasonable with this girl. Like the rest of them, she's just trying to survive under impossible conditions.
Primo Bolan
03-21-11, 07:38
Do you have your pic on DIA or do you send it sep. In mail or HP to them or not at all? Advice.
PB
I remember back when I was in my 3T days (3T = Trim, Taut & Terrific & 30 yrs old) being a young lean mean surfing machine, I never ever used to pay for pussy except for buying dinner or taxi money. Nowadays I can't remember the last piece of free pussy I had and to be quite honest I don't really want it as when I'm in Jakarta my time is very limited and I just want it black and white. Thats why I thoroughly enjoy places like Hotel Classic. If Vage is a 3T sort of guy and got some free pussy good on him but I also understand where JAD is coming from also. A mate of mine once told me that once we leave Oz you fly across that invisible line called the Handsome Line where all of us blokes turn handsome and even more so if you have a pocket full of personality to boot, speak the lingo and understand Indo dynamics.
Pussycheck
03-21-11, 12:32
Is it easy in Jakarta to get a very good looking freelancing Indo girl there? With good looking I mean 7. 5 up on a scale from 1 to 10. How much do these good looking girls usually want for a night? Where are the places to meet these good looking girls in Jakarta?
Vageterian
03-21-11, 12:53
Do you have your pic on DIA or do you send it sep. In mail or HP to them or not at all? Advice.
PBGiving out your HP number can be a risky task if you are trying to maintain secrecy. I just usually give a yahoo address and say I can recieve instant messages and that is the best way to reach me. I don't like having my phone ringing when I am out with the GF. Best results are always gained with using a pic in the profile. Not all women on these dating sites are working and the vast majority are just normal average women looking for a long term relationship or dating.
Vageterian
03-21-11, 13:03
Hmm, very interesting. But let me ask you a question. Since when it's not about the money? I'm surprise it never crossed in your mind that she was actually expecting but reluctant to discuss upfront. And in the end, she was also reluctant to ask before parting. Anyway, if you succeed doing what you did to the same girl at least for the second time then I'll agree with your "free pussy" statement.
Please be reasonable with this girl. Like the rest of them, she's just trying to survive under impossible conditions.
JAKARTA AFTER DARKI definately understand your position. I can assure you the taxi money was more than ample. I think i realized at 6 years old . No pussy is ever free
A mate of mine once told me that once we leave Oz you fly across that invisible line called the Handsome LineMust be true, because the sheilas get a whole lot better looking too!
WestCoast1
03-22-11, 04:28
Is it easy in Jakarta to get a very good looking freelancing Indo girl there? With good looking I mean 7. 5 up on a scale from 1 to 10. How much do these good looking girls usually want for a night? Where are the places to meet these good looking girls in Jakarta?Quite a few FL in Block M. Also check large discos. Mall pickups can be had on occasion. RTTF.
Jkt After Dark 2
03-22-11, 06:43
I definately understand your position. I can assure you the taxi money was more than ample. I think i realized at 6 years old . No pussy is ever freeOkay. Real taxi money is 50k-100k Rp. And when you are talking about "taxi money" then it is 300k. 1,000k Rp.
FrenchTouch
03-22-11, 15:25
Hi All.
Was in Jakarta for three nights some time ago.
Arrived from Malaysia in the evening, early enough to catch up with friends for dinner and drinks. Dinner was at Koi (?) in Blok M, reasonable in terms of prices, remarkable in terms of quality for who likes a mixture of Asian and Western food. Good wines at affordable rates for Jakarta standards.
After dinner, went to CJs. The usual bench of piranhas, did not se anything that really struck my eye (s) so went back alone to hotel. In the lobby of the Meridien, was noticed by two Wgs who were hanging out there. Winked, mimicked suking action etc. So invited them to "have a drink in my room". Followed a bit of kissing, groping on the couch (thanks to the hotel designer, this proved handy) until one went on her knees and started to unzip me while the other one let me suck on her nipples and finger her shaved pussy. Had a quite enjoyable moment until I sprayed in the mouth of the one who was BJing me. Sorry, did not note names. I gave them 40 000 and wished them well on their way. One must have been 27 30, fair skin, reasonably sexy figure and cute face. Her friend must have been younger, claimed 21, short har, dark skin. And a nice body with sweet tits and tight ****.
I had already arranged with meeting my regular. See posts before. Who was supposed to arrive at 6AM for my wake up call, which is our customary arrangement now. Due to some mixup with the time on my phone, woke up one hour too early. KL time.. And waited for a while. But she did not show up. So slept again. Until I woke up. Knock knock on the door. It so happened that she did arrive on time, even a little advanced, but since I was sleeping she had been nowking for around 30 minutes. Oops. I had told her I wanted skirt and no panty. To be sure she was really as horny as she promised. Felt up her skirt, and yes she was not wearing. And the long knocking on the door did not apparently stop her from being wet. So I felt a little sorry ofr course, she was really nice and to cut it short this did not stop us from having a once again very nice session with two shots within two hours. Two ending with CIM for which she really seems to have a passion. I ordered breakfast for her, then went to take breakfast with staff. I had made it clear that I was not going to see her the next night.
Had planned a meeting with one of my DIA contacts. Only saw her one time on cam. But lots of sexy talk and the special mention of her being able to wake up a dead man with her tongue. Seemed promising. So we confirmed meeting after dinner, since I was having dinner with staff. Which happened at a Starbucks in Kuningan around 10 30 PM. Gave her the agreed perfume. Talked for a while while she was conspicuously sucking on the straw on her latte. Then she asked me : what are your plans. I said go watch tv in my room. Where we went. A little of groping and kissing in the cab. Then the customary welcome sir at the entrance of hotel (these guys always seem to admire my being able to come back with so many different women) then up to my room. Then, a little of kissing and hop to shower. She did not want to have sex since she just finisehd her period. So we sticked to her promise of giving me one of the best BJs. Which happened with a wonderful finale in her mouth. I slept after that, feeling a bit tired and more than happy. She slept too, and left at 530 AM. I hardly woke up. Once again DIA delivered.
Next day, going down for breakfast, was greeted by a woman in the elevator. Obviously a WG who stayed overnight. So I said Hi with a grin. And then she said : I know you, you are french and your name is. Oops. I don't know you. And left.
Agenda was busy with meetings until 7PM. Ordered a massage from the hotel. Very nice, was dosing for half of the 55 minutes. No special service offered, none asked. Good massge anyway. Went down, had a club sandwich at the bar. Then weighed my options. And decided to go to the famous Melawai hotel. Had read very nice reports here. So was quite disappointed. Setting is quite run down. I was there anyway, so decided to see if the service was as bad as it looked. Took mimi (from jawa) reasobaly cute, small frame. She took me to a shabby room. Strange, there is this window at eye level that they cover with a towel? Anyway, two resonably good sessions, but no CIM, no anal, all covered and a lame massage inbetween. Left some 50 000 including tip. Room was clean but the spartian type. Anyway, I will not return.
After that went bar hopping a little then back to Le meridien. In my room, read through mails, and decided to go down. Saw one of the two whom I invited to my room. Not the good looking one. And then the WG from the morning. Which I recognized, suddenly, and reasonably, since she was wearing her hunting attire : short skirt, and plunging view in her fake D cup cleavage. I gently shewed her away.
I then looked at the crowd. Listened to the band. Until I started exchanging smiles and winks with a small spinster who was with her friends. We had a few drinks, danced, groped, grinned, until it was 1 30 or 1 45 AM. Time where I took the bill, including afew drinks with her friends. And up to my room. 24 (or maybe 27) under 155 cms, must have weighed 43 or 44, and reasonably fit given the motherhood. We had sex twice. She was good, not extravagantly so, but quite ok. She made me come twice and I think she did too. She very much sounded so. Worth the two shags anyway. I let her go at 4 or so, her choice since she has a 3 year old and needed to be there when he wakes up. Exchanged emails. And gave her taxi money. Well also milk money since she asked, all in all I think 200 000. With the drinks I spent around 700 000. Fun anyway.
Jakarta still delivers. Will be back soon. But no to Melawai or Maribaya.
Is it easy in Jakarta to get a very good looking freelancing Indo girl there? With good looking I mean 7. 5 up on a scale from 1 to 10. How much do these good looking girls usually want for a night? Where are the places to meet these good looking girls in Jakarta?Since everyone rates girls differently, you would need to post a pic of a girl you consider to be a 7. 5 for us to know what minimum type of quality you are looking for.
Never been but heard about these places. I am usually a visitor to Hotel Travel but wanted to try this out.
I walked into Berlian, about 6 girls there around 1:30pm. None of them were my type, so walked out and went to Kartika.
Kartika, had a choice of about 20 girls. You walk in and they are all there and crowd around you immediatly "pick me, pick me!".
I picked one, but ask I was walking to the stairs, saw this nice ass in a dress, asked her to turn around and them picker her. Her name was Sari.
Had to pay the house fee of 350K upfront. Then went up. Small dark room with a plastic covered bed and bathtub. Got undressed and was instructed to lay down on the bed. She undressed, soaped herself up and then began the slipy slidy. It was my first time so was amusing and fun. After a shower to get the soap off, she wiped the bed, put on a sheet and then got me to lie down and started a CBJ. Got me hard then FS.
Tipped her 50K, she was asking for 100K. I refused and said, maybe next time.
Compare to Hotel travel, I would rather go there than this place again. HT is much cleaner and nicer experience.
-JM
I gave them 40 000 and wished them well on their way.
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Left some 50 000 including tip. Room was clean but the spartian type. Anyway, I will not return.
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And gave her taxi money. Well also milk money since she asked, all in all I think 200 000. With the drinks I spent around 700 000. Nice summary of your trip FT. But you must have been overwhelmed by the experience that you forgot a zero in the first 3 figures. BTW, I think you overpaid the last one. About Rp. 1.300. 000, = even including milk money, is much.
Pussycheck
03-23-11, 19:15
Compared to other asian cities like Bangkok and Manila in which city do you find more stunners?
Vageterian
03-23-11, 19:39
Compared to other asian cities like Bangkok and Manila in which city do you find more stunners?I like the thin thai and indonesian women, but on average the selection and prices are much better in the Philippines
FrenchTouch
03-24-11, 06:53
Nice summary of your trip FT. But you must have been overwhelmed by the experience that you forgot a zero in the first 3 figures. BTW, I think you overpaid the last one. About Rp. 1.300. 000, = even including milk money, is much.Coorect : I got mixed up. For the two I picked up in the lobby. 400 000; in the massage place 500 000. For the last one together with drinks I paid 700 000 which I guess was fair.
And as I think I said once, if you don't want to overpay, or want to save, don't go out. BUt that's another topic, no pun intended.
Best
I like the thin thai and indonesian women, but on average the selection and prices are much better in the PhilippinesManila really sucks for mongering. Even BKK and Jakarta are far better.
Your statement might be true if you compare Angeles with the rest, but to be fair you should compare Angeles with Pattaya (Indonesia has nothing that comes close).
The total costs for a trip are about the same for Angeles and Pattaya.
My recommendation: Don't go to Manila (what an expensive shithole) , BKK (expensive but nice) or Jakarta (expensive shithole). Go to Angeles or Pattaya.
All mongers listen to BigCebu and go to Thailand and Flipland and don't come to Indo as its an expensive shithole with ugly chicks and blood thirsty headbangers wanting to cut your head off. Little head that is! Hehehehe
Hung Man 1808
03-24-11, 12:31
don't come to Indo as its an expensive shithole with ugly chicks and blood thirsty headbangers wanting to cut your head off.Plus, they have bombs! Another lot set off last week. Ok, so they were trying to blow up Indonesians, but you never know who will be next! Leave the place to the suicidal and crazy. I'm completely nuts and don't value my life, so I keep going. Don't know why.
Vageterian
03-24-11, 12:46
Plus the traffic is the shits. At least someday the MRT will be completed. Oh wait, guess not
Coorect : I got mixed up. For the two I picked up in the lobby. 400 000; in the massage place 500 000. For the last one together with drinks I paid 700 000 which I guess was fair.
And as I think I said once, if you don't want to overpay, or want to save, don't go out. BUt that's another topic, no pun intended.
BestYou can go out without overpaying, but you can't help it when little head does the thinking.
Also I don't know if the horrible rumour I read is true that the 6 th floor melawai is closing down, but that is a damn shameI hope it is a horrible rumour? The 6th floor Melawai institution closing down? Can any recent visitors confirm or deny?
So many fond memories of lazy afternoons or early evenings. Where will a brother recommend newbie friends to Jakarta to visit? Where do you take your little brother when he is in town?
Frankie555
03-25-11, 18:08
[QUOTE=Rogue Wan; 1137503]I hope it is a horrible rumour? The 6th floor Melawai institution closing down? Can any recent visitors confirm or deny?
QUOTE]
Barman assured me that it was not closing down, except as usual during Ramadan
One of my regular DIA / Tagged (can't remember which, we first connected about 3 years ago)"Good Girls" (lives at home with mom & dad, not on the scene, works in a good job in one of the Jakarta glass towers) is a good looker, loves a good rodgering, but have never been fantastic in the BBBJ department, but I never complained.
After an absence of about 3-4 months we got together for a tryst and a sensational improvement. Fantastic BBBJ + full CIM. I didn't press the point, but I suspect some monger has taken her in hand and taught her the finer points. Nice job.
THANKS MATE.
Perhaps I am getting old, but after about 25 years mongering in SE Asia I have really tired of doing the rounds looking for gals and have settled into regular trysts with my stable of DIA / Tagged gals. I now much prefer the regular and predictable routine than the chase.
I can see that my regulars all fit into the same mold."Good Girls" with regular good jobs, late-20s to mid-30s, not on the scene, and living at home with their parents, and not really chasing to get married.
The usual routine is that drop by my hotel room after they knock-off from their office. On their knees for a BBBJCIM before we head off for dinner. One admitted that she had a perverse delight being with me in a crowded lift of a 5-star hotel with the taste of my cum in her mouth as we go out to dinner, and knowing that after acouple of hours she would be on all-fours with me pounding her from behind doggie style. These gals are all smart enough to realise that if they can have the old boy let off a head of steam, that later on when he recovers they are going to pounded rather hard.
Perhaps I will tire of this routine, I don't know. But what I do know the sex is good and an added bonus is that by 11 PM I can get my head down for a good sleep. I'm one of those poor sods who actually has to get up in the morning and work. When I was doing the rounds, I would rarely be asleep before 2:00 AM and I'm sure my work suffered.
A repost of one of my regular "good girls".
A repost of one of my regular "good girls".And now she is tagged: bad girl! Or worse! Couldn't you blur her face since she's no pro? Even with pro's I take precautions.
Member #2041
03-26-11, 17:53
And now she is tagged: bad girl! Or worse! Couldn't you blur her face since she's no pro? Even with pro's I take precautions.She looked pretty darn good to me.
And now she is tagged: bad girl! Or worse! Couldn't you blur her face since she's no pro? Even with pro's I take precautions.With respect, I don't think she is can be identified from this foto. Her full face is not showing.
Primo Bolan
03-27-11, 07:00
DIA is nice, they usually ask how long time I will be in Indonesia. However they want very long time I think.
John Marigold99
03-27-11, 12:20
DIA is nice, they usually ask how long time I will be in Indonesia. However they want very long time I think.Yes, so tell them you will be there for 2-3 months. Worked well for me
Primo Bolan
03-27-11, 14:01
Yes, so tell them you will be there for 2-3 months. Worked well for meYes I know it works that way but I'm a bad liar. It works really good.
Master Diver II
03-28-11, 01:31
Plus, they have bombs! Another lot set off last week. Ok, so they were trying to blow up Indonesians, but you never know who will be next! Leave the place to the suicidal and crazy. I'm completely nuts and don't value my life, so I keep going. Don't know why.Wow. Really? Me too. I've been trying to figure out why. Maybe they slipped something into my Aqua last time I went. I seem to be suffering some kind of withdrawal symptoms. ;)
Master Diver II
03-28-11, 01:40
And now she is tagged: bad girl! Or worse! Couldn't you blur her face since she's no pro? Even with pro's I take precautions.Do you take precautions bro? Oh you mean about the photos? How are you and when will we be graced by your presence? We all love seeing you in action. I have to admit that I do prefer the dating website scene. So much GFE, so much wetness. Some of them actually get very wet during dinner when you start to flirt. Drives me nuts when I "find out later.
MD II
Member #4537
03-28-11, 10:54
Does Travel Hotel have the same quantity and quality of girls during Ramadan time? (August-September)
FoxesHunter
03-28-11, 15:20
Hi, I'd like to know more about Jakarta and Pattaya and if you know both, I hope you will answer to my questiuons:
1) Is it easier to find willing girls for overnight (10pm-7am) in Jakarta or Pattaya?
2) Where is it cheaper for overnight?
3) Where cheaper for 2 hours of full fucking?
I thank you.
Do you take precautions bro? Oh you mean about the photos? How are you and when will we be graced by your presence? We all love seeing you in action. I have to admit that I do prefer the dating website scene. So much GFE, so much wetness. Some of them actually get very wet during dinner when you start to flirt. Drives me nuts when I "find out later.
MD IIHaven't been doing P4P for quite a while now. In Medellin you don't have to. A lot of lonely and forsaken wives / girlfriends here. Every three months I'm really, deeply, sincerely and forever in love.
Bro, you're a real gentleman. I usually try to find out if my table-lady is wet during dinner. It's only a fingertip away (grin)!
Primo Bolan
03-28-11, 18:49
Jack Mgl asked for directions and I gave them. In addition MDII pointed at BATS and Delila. Expensive or cheap wasn't mentioned and BigCebu qualified them as expensive, to which I agree. Although, it depends on your oral skills (pun?) how much money is going to be traded. And of course, if you look like MDII, things will go a lot easier.
But to stick to the subject, I rely upon the best nightlife guide of Jakarta: Jakarta After Dark IIIs that if you speak a some bahasa? If I can show them that I have been there before, I don't see much about that subject in the threads or maybe I'm blind, it should be obvious and I only know one juta? Where did JAD I go?
PB IV
Fast Eddie 48
03-28-11, 23:36
Hi, I'd like to know more about Jakarta and Pattaya and if you know both, I hope you will answer to my questiuons:
1) Is it easier to find willing girls for overnight (10pm-7am) in Jakarta or Pattaya?
2) Where is it cheaper for overnight?
3) Where cheaper for 2 hours of full fucking?
I thank you.To FOX.
I think Pattaya is much easier to find actions everything is in the open jarkata is a big city 10 time bigger and you need to look harder, about cost Pattaya is cheaper than Jarkata but overall Qualtiy is much better and you get at international staff here in Jarkata.
Fast eddei 48
Is that if you speak a some bahasa?Not necessarily to know how to speak bahasa.
If I can show them that I have been there before, I don't see much about that subject in the threads or maybe I'm blind, it should be obvious and I only know one juta? Where did JAD I go?
PB IVShowing that you've been there before doesn't help if that previous time you paid over the top. They will know. Reread this thread or do a search on CJ, BATS and / or Tiga Puluh. You'll learn that 1 juta or more is their opening bid.
You can find Jakarta After Dark 2 in the Classified Ads section or else use the search function in this thread.
Primo Bolan
03-29-11, 18:14
Not necessarily to know how to speak bahasa.
Showing that you've been there before doesn't help if that previous time you paid over the top. They will know. Reread this thread or do a search on CJ, BATS and / or Tiga Puluh. You'll learn that 1 juta or more is their opening bid.
You can find Jakarta After Dark 2 in the Classified Ads section or else use the search function in this thread. OK thank you Menteng I am reading and reading. My Q about where JAD ONE have gone? Now his name is JAD TWO.
Did someone else take over number ones business? I have read the forum about Jakarta so much that I already understand about the opening bid, but I wrote that I only know one word in bahasa and thats "Juta". Thank you for taking your time Menteng.
As Always Primo
Master Diver II
03-30-11, 02:33
Haven't been doing P4P for quite a while now. In Medellin you don't have to. A lot of lonely and forsaken wives / girlfriends here. Every three months I'm really, deeply, sincerely and forever in love.
Bro, you're a real gentleman. I usually try to find out if my table-lady is wet during dinner. It's only a fingertip away (grin)! Likewise bro, I'm not really into the P4P in Jakarta anymore. I've been busy on the dating websites. Jakarta has been very good for me so no complaints:D. But you are making me curious about Medellin. Maybe I need to take up Spanish again. Anywhere that can keep you away from this city must have something to offer.
I have read the forum about Jakarta so much that I already understand about the opening bid, but I wrote that I only know one word in bahasa and thats "Juta". Thank you for taking your time Menteng.
As Always Primo
Time for you to learn some new words then: satu, dua, tiga, empat, lima, enam, tujuh, lapan, sembilan - 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9; sepuluh, dua puluh, tiga puluh...etc - 10, 20, 30... etc; ratus - hundred; ribu - thousand; then you put it all together: lima ratus ribu - 500,000 or tiga ratus lima puluh ribu - 350,000. That's a quick lesson, I'm sure you can manage the rest. Have fun...
MD II
Hi guys!
Just got back from jakarta last week (I usually have trips to Jakarta a couple of times during a year). As per usual I visited places like alexis, malioboro, and v2. To my astonishment however, I noticed that most of the places only have very limited selection of Russian (uzbek-ukrain) girls. Most of the places now only have some latin girls (mostly columbians).
- in alexis, which was once a haven for the Russian girls, now literally only have 3 or 4 girls only (and not the beautiful ones mind you) and even then I suspect half of them are columbians. So dissapointing.
- in malioboro (which facilities and charge rates below alexis) , suprisingly they have more Russian girls now than alexis (around 5 to 7 girls) and I. M. O. Also reasonably more beautiful than alexis. Not only that, they even have more latin girls (around 8 to 10 girls) which also have better qualities than what you'd find in alexis.
I won't even bother to report what I found in V2.
So I was wondering if there's somewhat shifting of power between Russian and latin girls in general, or maybe all those beautiful Russian girls have moved to some other places that I don't know of. Any thoughts or lights in this matter?
P. S. When I was in jakarta some friend told me about a new place called "illigals", which now running at where the 1001 club was (if you've been around in Jakarta you'd know 1001). Any reports pertaining the new establishment?
JR
Tenth Legion
03-30-11, 12:16
This Tovarisch visited Alexeis (sic) for a second time this weekend. It was around 8:00PM and the punters were just milling up so I could see the entire lineups. Noticed that the Mamasans repeated "Uzbek-Kassak" (sic) instead of "Russian"; however these ladies were still in the high roller slot. Like other members here said the Uzbeks ain't lookers. Kinda glum and dumpy and the selection pales with even the Dubai cohort.
This time went for a Thai "model" who's in the 1. 4M IDR slot; okay service. The one I marked for encounter the last time was with someone else and my favorite girl was missing from the Indonesian lineup. BTW, the bill for the service is charged for "bottle of wine L-xxx"; guess it is to help those coming in on expense accounts heh heh. Wonder how you explain a bottle of wine costing up to three times the room cost.
BTW, I've never been to Malioboro Club. I have RTFF but could someone give a detailed Standard Operating Procedure. I. E. What to expect when you step in (like in Classic you got to go to the Atrium actually) , lockers, changing rooms, billing, the dreaded "extra charges" some girls enter etc. Exact directions would also help. I mean, I once barged into the manager's / annex room of Star Massage. Well, it was partly due to the papasan's poor Engris and partly due to my impatience to get the best BBBJ in Jakarta (this little wisp called Atin. Not the best looker but a real trooper, 'specially if you have been with her at least twice).
OK thank you Menteng I am reading and reading. My Q about where JAD ONE have gone? Now his name is JAD TWO.
Did someone else take over number ones business?
PrimoHe used to run a diiferent site as "one".
Primo Bolan
03-30-11, 15:37
He used to run a diiferent site as "one".Ok. It just seemed to be an inflation in putting numbers behind the names. Anyway I'm going to use his service when in Jakarta later.
Primo V
Likewise bro, I'm not really into the P4P in Jakarta anymore. I've been busy on the dating websites. Jakarta has been very good for me so no complaints. But you are making me curious about Medellin. Maybe I need to take up Spanish again. Anywhere that can keep you away from this city must have something to offer.
MD IIMedellin is supposed to have the most beautiful women of Colombia. True or not, at least you can find from pitch black to snow white girls / women. Me being an Asian is an advantage here, it tickles their curiosity and opens doors to a possible next level. I'm tempted to say: "like a bule in Jakarta", but without being considered a walking ATM.
Primo Bolan
03-30-11, 18:20
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Time for you to learn some new words then: satu, dua, tiga, empat, Lima, enam, tujuh, lapan, sembilan. 1,2. 3,4. 5,6. 7,8. 9; sepuluh, dua puluh, tiga puluh. Etc. 10, 20, 30. Etc; ratus. Hundred; ribu. Thousand; then you put it all together: Lima ratus ribu. 500, 000 or tiga ratus Lima puluh ribu. 350, 000. That's a quick lesson, I'm sure you can manage the rest. Have fun.
MD II[/QUOTE]Thanks for teaching me a lesson!
FoxesHunter
03-30-11, 21:33
To FOX.
About cost Pattaya is cheaper than Jarkata but overall Qualtiy is much better and you get at international staff here in Jarkata. I'm sorry but I don't understand fine. In Jakarta there is a much better quality of girls?
Thanks
TigerWoods
03-31-11, 09:27
Hi to everybody. I am pretty new in gear and have been following your reports for some time. Although I am travelling to Jakarta for a couple of years now, I usually went to CJ's and Bats and another place which is in Manga Dua (but I forgot the name). Also Red Square is not too bad.
However, I have never been to Alexis, Malioboro or V2.
Can one of you let me know where these places are since I go to Jakarta Mid April and I would like to follow up on these places as well.
Thanks a lot and please do not get upset since my first comment here is a question. I will for sure submit a report after my next visit.
Thanks
and you get at international staff here in Jarkata.Tons of Russian hookers (actually from Uzbekistan) , black hookers. In Pattaya.
Apartments from US$150 a month, motorbike rental for US$ 2, 50 a day, food for a few cents, a beach.
For a monger holiday. Nothing beats Pattaya. There is no place in the world where you get a package like that.
Yes, it is pretty boring if you keep going there for many years and really everybody makes holiday there, but for a newbie in Asia it is the place to go.
Primo Bolan
03-31-11, 19:30
Tons of Russian hookers (actually from Uzbekistan) , black hookers. In Pattaya.
Apartments from US$150 a month, motorbike rental for US$ 2, 50 a day, food for a few cents, a beach.
For a monger holiday. Nothing beats Pattaya. There is no place in the world where you get a package like that.
Yes, it is pretty boring if you keep going there for many years and really everybody makes holiday there, but for a newbie in Asia it is the place to go. Yes and the beach is pretty nice. Try to swim in the garbage or take a ride on the jetski.
I recently had another trip to our favorite mongering city. Finally got my lazy ass out of the CJs / BATS scene and visited Hotel Classic. Took a friend with me who has not spent much time in jakarta, and a good time was had by all. The 2 girls for 400, 000 is still available, a single girl was 270, 000.
We went to the second floor place in Hotel Classic. As has been reported before, the girls are all sitting around on couches, they are grouped together based on the color of their dresses, each color dress has a different mamasan as far as I could tell. Some mamasans kept approaching our table with a group of their girls, some of the girls really look like they do not want to be there, and some are smiling and have that special look in their eye that tells you they will be good in the room. Use your mongering experience and pick wisely. I grabbed 2 girls, they sat with us at the table while we had a few drinks, allowed touching / rubbing etc while they grabbed my cock through my pants. In the room they were great, one was willing to do a bit of lesbian action but the other would not allow. Gave them each a 50, 000 tip for their efforts.
Unfortunately my friend did not make as good a selection and his single girl was kind of boring in the room, kept complaining about being tired, so he walked out and she did not get a tip.
Interestingly I think we were the only bules there, we thought about checking out the ground floor place but decided we were hungry and went to Blok M instead. Hit the usual places, TG, D's, MB, and the selection was not great. Ended up back at TG where we each found our take away for the night. They claimed to be sisters, good service from mine, had a good night with her in my hotel room, had a great morning session and sent her on her way while I went to work. Total damage 600, 000. I love this place.
I recently had another trip to our favorite mongering city. Finally got my lazy ass out of the CJs / BATS scene and visited Hotel Classic. Took a friend with me who has not spent much time in jakarta, and a good time was had by all. The 2 girls for 400, 000 is still available, a single girl was 270, 000.
We went to the second floor place in Hotel Classic. As has been reported before, the girls are all sitting around on couches, they are grouped together based on the color of their dresses, each color dress has a different mamasan as far as I could tell. Some mamasans kept approaching our table with a group of their girls, some of the girls really look like they do not want to be there, and some are smiling and have that special look in their eye that tells you they will be good in the room. Use your mongering experience and pick wisely. I grabbed 2 girls, they sat with us at the table while we had a few drinks, allowed touching / rubbing etc while they grabbed my cock through my pants. In the room they were great, one was willing to do a bit of lesbian action but the other would not allow. Gave them each a 50, 000 tip for their efforts.
Unfortunately my friend did not make as good a selection and his single girl was kind of boring in the room, kept complaining about being tired, so he walked out and she did not get a tip.
Interestingly I think we were the only bules there, we thought about checking out the ground floor place but decided we were hungry and went to Blok M instead. Hit the usual places, TG, D's, MB, and the selection was not great. Ended up back at TG where we each found our take away for the night. They claimed to be sisters, good service from mine, had a good night with her in my hotel room, had a great morning session and sent her on her way while I went to work. Total damage 600, 000. I love this place. The second floor place is named 'The Terminal" and the basement place is called "The Bunker"
The second floor place is named 'The Terminal" and the basement place is called "The Bunker"So is The Bunker the one on the ground floor, as you walk in the hotel entrance, turn right and it is ahead of you at the end of the corridor on the same level as the entrance? This is the place with imports right?
The Terminal name makes sense now, I wondered why they were talking about terminal 1, terminal 2 to go shag in and giving us boarding passes to get out of the place.
So is The Bunker the one on the ground floor, as you walk in the hotel entrance, turn right and it is ahead of you at the end of the corridor on the same level as the entrance? This is the place with imports right?
The Terminal name makes sense now, I wondered why they were talking about terminal 1, terminal 2 to go shag in and giving us boarding passes to get out of the place. Mate its been around 5 years since I've been to the bunker but it has the imports and also where you have the sauna spa setup. I must have some kiwi in me as I don't indulge in the imports anymore as I always think afterwards 1. 8 jta = 4 double acts and 4 coronas. Besides I'm very bias when it comes to Sundanese girls.
So is The Bunker the one on the ground floor, as you walk in the hotel entrance, turn right and it is ahead of you at the end of the corridor on the same level as the entrance? This is the place with imports right?
The Terminal name makes sense now, I wondered why they were talking about terminal 1, terminal 2 to go shag in and giving us boarding passes to get out of the place. The Bunker located in the same area with the spa & massage place in the basement and they open from noon (1pm) till close (1am) , while The Terminal (2nd floor) starting open at night (9pm) till close (4am). So actually the WLs are the same in both places, they just stay in Bunker during daylight and later when Terminal open they'll (esp. The imports, some locals will still hang around the bunker untill it's close) move to Terminal.
Some insights if I may:
My last time to classic htl, I think, was 2-3yrs ago. Now I'd rather go to malioboro, which's actually owned by the same guy who owns classic (happen to know the guy). And from what I've gathered so far, the arrangement works like this: newer girls (local and imports) will be put to work in malioboro first, and if after a while they're gettin less and less customers (because of their look or have worked for long time whatever.) then they will be sent to classic (which charges less then in malioboro).
So if you're looking for newer (younger) wl-s shaggin actions then better you go to malioboro, but if budget is your issue then go to classic.
Hope that helps
- in alexis, which was once a haven for the Russian girls, now literally only have 3 or 4 girls only (and not the beautiful ones mind you) and even then I suspect half of them are columbians. So dissapointing.
- in malioboro (which facilities and charge rates below alexis) , suprisingly they have more Russian girls now than alexis (around 5 to 7 girls) and I. M. O. Also reasonably more beautiful than alexis. Not only that, they even have more latin girls (around 8 to 10 girls) which also have better qualities than what you'd find in alexis.
I won't even bother to report what I found in V2.
So I was wondering if there's somewhat shifting of power between Russian and latin girls in general, or maybe all those beautiful Russian girls have moved to some other places that I don't know of. Any thoughts or lights in this matter? When I was at Alexis with JAD a couple of months ago, there were no latinas. We asked the Mamasan. There were about 8-10 latinas at Malioboro, and, like you, I didn't spot any attractive Russian women at either places. I believe all the Latinas except one were from Colombia. Colombian hookers are everywhere. I've run across them in Singapore, Bangkok, Mexico, Panama, Mexico and Costa Rica. And from what I've read, they're also in the Caribbean, Europe, Hong Kong and Japan. The group at Malioboro were B-Team, although a couple of weeks later I ran across a couple of Colombian hotties at BRIX in Singapore. They told me they were making a circuit, spending time in various Asian countries and working on their college funds. One of them wanted to hang out with me for free for a couple of days, but I didn't have time. That was a new one for me.
FoxesHunter
04-02-11, 09:07
Apartments from US$150 a month, motorbike rental for US$ 2, 50 a day, food for a few cents, a beach.How much an apartment with conditioned air costs every week?
Thanks
FoxesHunter
04-02-11, 09:11
Tons of Russian hookers (actually from Uzbekistan)Are they costing more?
John Aldrich
04-03-11, 01:31
Tons of Russian hookers (actually from Uzbekistan) , black hookers. In Pattaya.
Apartments from US$150 a month, motorbike rental for US$ 2, 50 a day, food for a few cents, a beach.
For a monger holiday. Nothing beats Pattaya. There is no place in the world where you get a package like that.
Yes, it is pretty boring if you keep going there for many years and really everybody makes holiday there, but for a newbie in Asia it is the place to go. Go to Pattaya, where you ought to be. Why think of Jakarta. Pataya is your place.
There is no doubt in my mind that if I were on a 2 week vacation, I would choose Pattaya over Indonesia for mongering. It's cheaper and the girls are so much more available. Jakarta is a good place to live or visit on business trips and monger, but to visit somewhere for a week or two on vacation, Pattaya and Angeles City are the places to hit. Jakarta is a bit expensive relative to the other places and isn't really as convenient for pure mongering.
You can get Uzbek chicks in Jakarta for about 1. 8 million for an hour at Malioboro. (although I heard recently that they raised it to 2 million. Not confirmed).1. 8 million is about $200 USD for one hour.
I haven't taken the Russian chicks in Pattaya, but in Bangkok at CM2, they were asking for 4, 000 to 5, 000 baht which is about $130 to $170 USD to go to the hotel room. I would assume they would be a bit cheaper in Pattaya since the Thai girls are cheaper in Pattaya.
Jkt After Dark 2
04-03-11, 07:55
Like Malioboro, Sumo, Stadium, Rajamas, Medika, Rasa Sayang and Athena, King Cross is also a subsidiary company of Raja Group.
At King Cross, local girls are available at 300k and 550k. Dancers (all are locals) are available at 1. 100k. A couple weeks ago I went there with a client and found out PRCs are available at 650k. Papasan F told me they will offer Russians at the same price soon.
FoxesHunter
04-03-11, 09:31
There is no doubt in my mind that if I were on a 2 week vacation, I would choose Pattaya over Indonesia for mongering. It's cheaper and the girls are so much more available. Jakarta is a good place to live or visit on business trips and monger, but to visit somewhere for a week or two on vacation, Pattaya and Angeles City are the places to hit. Jakarta is a bit expensive relative to the other places and isn't really as convenient for pure mongering.May be sex in Jakarta is funnier? May be are girls more girlfreindly? May be is it easier to find girls for overnight? May be is it easier to find a sweetheart for one week?
What differences between Jakarta and Pattaya?
Thanks
WestCoast1
04-03-11, 16:23
May be sex in Jakarta is funnier? May be are girls more girlfreindly? May be is it easier to find girls for overnight? May be is it easier to find a sweetheart for one week?
What differences between Jakarta and Pattaya?
ThanksGosh I thought Smoothy explained the differences rather well?
FoxesHunter
04-03-11, 16:41
Gosh I thought Smoothy explained the differences rather well?Not enough. . Why many people go to Jakarta?
How much an apartment with conditioned air costs every week?It depends, start at about 400 Baht a day in the Soi Buakao Area.
Oh my, oh my! Foxeshunter is on the prey again with his fricking questions and the goodhearted members of this forum are fooled again. Me and others have warned you. He only asks those kind of questions and has never contributed. Even when I dared him about Jakarta and Lima (Peru) places he told he has visited. I think he only quotes from FR's and post them like his own experience. He only travels in his fantasies!
May be sex in Jakarta is funnier?Why?
May be are girls more girlfreindly?No.
May be is it easier to find girls for overnight?It is a million times more easy in Pattaya.
May be is it easier to find a sweetheart for one week?It is far more easy (and far cheaper) in Pattaya.
What differences between Jakarta and Pattaya?- Pattaya is cheaper an less anoying.
- Pattaya has no traffic jams for several hours.
- Pattay is on the beach.
- Pattaya is a tourist destination while most tourists avoid Jakarta.
- Pattaya is a monger destination with tenthousands of girls while Jakarta is just a big city with limited mongering opportunities.
- Thai food is far better than Indonesian food.
For a vacation with mongering I would never go to Jakarta.
Tenth Legion
04-03-11, 17:59
Okay. I have heard Malioboro is the best in town and the service and lineups are legendary. So it was with great expectations that I chose to try Maliobor instead of the tried and tested Alexis. I think you can guess where the report is going but here goes. BTW, I might have gone to wrong lounge or missed some step but the following is what happened to me this weekend.
Enter the lobby past friendly security guards and valets and you get a plastic bracelet for your locker. Unlike Alexis with fancy-shmancy waterproof RFID bracelets you got the locker key tucked into the sleeved of your bracelet. Go up one floor to the lockers, put your mobiles and wallet etc in and change into khaki color shorts. Now there are three pools facing giant screens; one of the pools has cold water and the others are bubbling warm. Unlike Alexis where you have couples cooing and washing each other this is sausage-only-territory. Actually there's this flowchart etched to wall suggesting you to take the sauna first (after changing in the locker).then the pools-hit the sowers-go upstairs for massage.
Once you have showered you can go upstairs to the landing where there's another lobby; the ladies there directed me to a lounge that was deserted save one old Indonesian guy who was sipping a beer. Across the wide hall I could see the girls milling about. Then a mamasan approaches me and tells me 380, 000 for room+girl. I was surprised to hear Kartika rates in Malioboro and asked her if this was the Malioboro spa. Now I know zero Bahasa and the Mamasan's English wasn't good either. I ask her "Russia?". She says "No Russia". I ask "Arab? Africa", she says "No Arab. No Africa". I ask "Uzbek? Kazhak?" and she says "Yes. 1.8M rupiah". I saw a 'stani across the hallway and no way I was going to pay this much money for that Borat's daughter-cum-niece. Not even if she won 3rd Best Sex in Mouth Award of Kazhakhstan.
I tried to ask her (in english and pantomime) to show the different levels available like they do in Alexis, like Indonesian local, Indonesian model, Thai / PRC and Thai / PRC model but couldn't get through at all. All she did was show four random Indonesian women tagged at 350, 000 out of the multitudes; I simply wasn't shown any more up close. Also, the Mamasan had this impenetrable, stern aura. Something like that landlady in Kung Fu Hustle. Anyway I chose what I perceived to be the best of the four; a late 20s something called Rosa with a nice bod.
Once we were in the room she was so businesslike, proper decorum and all that. When I tried to inch close during the shower she kinda snapped saying "Later". The shower itself was perfunctory, something like washing your terrier. Then came the "body massage" with oil. Apparently the Libyan crisis and Nuclear-Financial meltdowns have hit the management hard and she was very conservative with the oil. The rubdown was with tits only and nothing like the body-body massages you get everywhere. Once things got too boring I asked her to do the BJ.
The rubber pops out of nowhere and I request her to do a BBBJ; the refusal was flat and stern and she started rolling the rubber on the boner immediately.
I understand if the girl is not comfortable with a BBBJ (the ones that refuse plead "No safe meester. Please meester." and I melt instantly) and always do covered FS if I am punting but this kind of response was a big turn off. I took off the rubber and asked her to do just massage. She silently complied and started a pretty decent massage. Cpl of minutes later she asks me if I am angry and I tell her softly "Girls and service in Alexis much better". This girl started engaging me in small talk, apologized repeatedly and suggested FS a cpl of times but I was kinda bummed off by the whole thing. I tell her "it's ok but I won't be tipping you 'because I took no extras" in a neural tone. Took a lonely shower and walked away while she was still dressing. Met the mamasan at the landing who acknowledged me with a slight nod.
Okay, can someone tell me if I did something wrong? Should I have gone to another floor or said some magic words / secret handshakes? Or was it all just due to poor communication or something else like Sunday is day off or something? Well, I am 29 and OK looking (for my ethnicity.) and I click instantly with people but this experience was a big let down. BTW, damages were only 381, 000 and at least I wasn't ripped off. Not going back to Malioboro unless I have some veterans with me or somebody tells me wherei went wrong.
So was in Jakarta last week. Was trying to arrange with JAD but was unable due to work constraints.
Went to colliseum on my own and it is by far one of the most fun places I have seen and been to in a long time. That being said. I saw a lot of the strippers on the 2nd and 3rd floors taht I wanted to take out and not so many in the discoteque.
My question to them was direct are they available and I was told out flat no. Any you guys pull them directly without the pretense of drinking and LD and such?
W.
FoxesHunter
04-03-11, 18:58
Even when I dared him about Jakarta and Lima (Peru) places he told he has visited. I think he only quotes from FR's and post them like his own experience. He only travels in his fantasies!You are false.
Jejejeje, I have posted 4-5 my experiences about Colombia some days ago. Jejejeje
FoxesHunter
04-03-11, 19:00
It depends, start at about 400 Baht a day in the Soi Buakao Area.But are they with kitchen? I like to cook some quick meals.
Master Diver II
04-04-11, 05:37
Medellin is supposed to have the most beautiful women of Colombia. True or not, at least you can find from pitch black to snow white girls / women. Me being an Asian is an advantage here, it tickles their curiosity and opens doors to a possible next level. I'm tempted to say: "like a bule in Jakarta", but without being considered a walking ATM.Being Asian is an advantage?:D Now what excuse can I give the Home Minister for travelling to Columbia? Hmmm.
Why? No.
It is a million times more easy in Pattaya.
It is far more easy (and far cheaper) in Pattaya.
- Pattaya is cheaper an less anoying.
- Pattaya has no traffic jams for several hours.
- Pattay is on the beach.
- Pattaya is a tourist destination while most tourists avoid Jakarta.
- Pattaya is a monger destination with tenthousands of girls while Jakarta is just a big city with limited mongering opportunities.
- Thai food is far better than Indonesian food.
For a vacation with mongering I would never go to Jakarta.
I think we got the message. Enjoy Pattaya - have a safe trip and take Foxes Hunter with you...:p
BTW, I might have gone to wrong lounge or missed some step but the following is what happened to me this weekend.
Once you have showered you can go upstairs to the landing where there's another lobby; the ladies there directed me to a lounge that was deserted save one old Indonesian guy who was sipping a beer. Across the wide hall I could see the girls milling about. Then a mamasan approaches me and tells me 380, 000 for room+girl. I was surprised to hear Kartika rates in Malioboro and asked her if this was the Malioboro spa. Now I know zero Bahasa and the Mamasan's English wasn't good either. I ask her "Russia?". She says "No Russia". I ask "Arab? Africa", she says "No Arab. No Africa". I ask "Uzbek? Kazhak?" and she says "Yes. 1.8M rupiah". I saw a 'stani across the hallway and no way I was going to pay this much money for that Borat's daughter-cum-niece. Not even if she won 3rd Best Sex in Mouth Award of Kazhakhstan.
I tried to ask her (in english and pantomime) to show the different levels available like they do in Alexis, like Indonesian local, Indonesian model, Thai / PRC and Thai / PRC model but couldn't get through at all. All she did was show four random Indonesian women tagged at 350, 000 out of the multitudes; I simply wasn't shown any more up close. Also, the Mamasan had this impenetrable, stern aura. Something like that landlady in Kung Fu Hustle. Anyway I chose what I perceived to be the best of the four; a late 20s something called Rosa with a nice bod.
Once we were in the room she was so businesslike, proper decorum and all that. When I tried to inch close during the shower she kinda snapped saying "Later". The shower itself was perfunctory, something like washing your terrier. Then came the "body massage" with oil. Apparently the Libyan crisis and Nuclear-Financial meltdowns have hit the management hard and she was very conservative with the oil. The rubdown was with tits only and nothing like the body-body massages you get everywhere. Once things got too boring I asked her to do the BJ.
The rubber pops out of nowhere and I request her to do a BBBJ; the refusal was flat and stern and she started rolling the rubber on the boner immediately.
I understand if the girl is not comfortable with a BBBJ (the ones that refuse plead "No safe meester. Please meester." and I melt instantly) and always do covered FS if I am punting but this kind of response was a big turn off. I took off the rubber and asked her to do just massage. She silently complied and started a pretty decent massage. Cpl of minutes later she asks me if I am angry and I tell her softly "Girls and service in Alexis much better". This girl started engaging me in small talk, apologized repeatedly and suggested FS a cpl of times but I was kinda bummed off by the whole thing. I tell her "it's ok but I won't be tipping you 'because I took no extras" in a neural tone. Took a lonely shower and walked away while she was still dressing. Met the mamasan at the landing who acknowledged me with a slight nod.
Okay, can someone tell me if I did something wrong? Should I have gone to another floor or said some magic words / secret handshakes? Or was it all just due to poor communication or something else like Sunday is day off or something? Well, I am 29 and OK looking (for my ethnicity.) and I click instantly with people but this experience was a big let down. BTW, damages were only 381, 000 and at least I wasn't ripped off. Not going back to Malioboro unless I have some veterans with me or somebody tells me wherei went wrong.
It's difficult to comment without witnessing first hand what actually happened from a neutral standpoint. There are however two lounges at Malioboro - one being the cheaper lounge (the one you walked into) and the other with the more expensive and imported girls. When I went, both lounges had a wide variety to choose from, so I am puzzled by the lack of choice presented to you. What time of the day did you go there? Your lack of communication doesn't help matters. i always find that a little banter goes a long way to making things more comfortable and obtaining the all important (at least to me) GFE.
Incidentally, I'll be in town from Tuesday to Friday for a bit of work and a lot of "stress management" :D
MD II
My question to them was direct are they available and I was told out flat no. Any you guys pull them directly without the pretense of drinking and LD and such?
W. If you intend to book a stripper (for st or lt) actually you can ask their agent (s) about them. Those agents are quite easy to spot if you really look enough, or you can ask the waiters (tip'them please) to introduce you to them.
Got to remind you though, the dancers cost a lot more then the reg wls (as stated by Jakarta After Dark 2, it's around rp1m-1. 5m). And don't ask as if you're a drunk or something, do ask seriously. Had you asked the dancer nicely and showed serious intention to book her, and if you're charming enough, I'm sure they could even make some "cheaper arrangements after work" for you, or at least point you to their agent.
FoxesHunter
04-04-11, 09:07
Master Diver II,
I know Colombia very fine and if you ask me some questions I will happy to reply you. Being Asian you will get advantage if you only have moeny to spend. Like in every other country. I can tell you Colombia is wonderful because there are wonderful and cheap girls.
Medellin is the best option because it is a big town but also Cali (with more dark complexion), Pereira, Bucaramanga, Barranquilla, etc. etc. I know every town of Colombia and every town has a different characteristic.
Why?
No.
It is a million times more easy in Pattaya.
It is far more easy (and far cheaper) in Pattaya.
- Pattaya is cheaper an less anoying.
- Pattaya has no traffic jams for several hours.
- Pattay is on the beach.
- Pattaya is a tourist destination while most tourists avoid Jakarta.
- Pattaya is a monger destination with tenthousands of girls while Jakarta is just a big city with limited mongering opportunities.
- Thai food is far better than Indonesian food.
For a vacation with mongering I would never go to Jakarta. Mate, I agree with you on those facts. However, you seem forgot to mention one last fact:
- In Pattaya, they have more "impossible-to-tell shemales". In fact around 25% of the so-called WLs in Thai are shemales (which with their natural smooth complexions and better crossover surgery makes it almost impossible, esp. For non-asian foreigners, to differ). So say you've fucked 4 wls in Pattaya, there's a good chance that 1 one of them is (or was) actually a male. And if you've stayed for mongering holidays in Pattaya for 1 month, then do make your own calculation.
Good luck.
To Tenth Legion.
At what time did you go there? The wls will start working around 1pm, even then some will only start showing around 4pm. So for best time to go there is around 4 to 5 pm.
Also, in malioboro they have mamasans that actually speak decent english. You can ask for "mandy" +62818119136, or "sammy" +6285814398166. Tell them you're a friend of Ben from Singapore, I'm sure they'll be happy to assist you with whatever you need.
Regards
Jkt After Dark 2
04-04-11, 13:33
So was in Jakarta last week. Was trying to arrange with JAD but was unable due to work constraints.
Went to colliseum on my own and it is by far one of the most fun places I have seen and been to in a long time. That being said. I saw a lot of the strippers on the 2nd and 3rd floors taht I wanted to take out and not so many in the discoteque.
My question to them was direct are they available and I was told out flat no. Any you guys pull them directly without the pretense of drinking and LD and such?
W.
If you intend to book a stripper (for st or lt) actually you can ask their agent (s) about them. Those agents are quite easy to spot if you really look enough, or you can ask the waiters (tip'them please) to introduce you to them.
Got to remind you though, the dancers cost a lot more then the reg wls (as stated by Jakarta After Dark 2, it's around rp1m-1. 5m). And don't ask as if you're a drunk or something, do ask seriously. Had you asked the dancer nicely and showed serious intention to book her, and if you're charming enough, I'm sure they could even make some "cheaper arrangements after work" for you, or at least point you to their agent. 9 out of 10 dancers at upmarket spas are not available while 9 out of 10 dancers at bordellos are available. Unlike agencies supplying dancers to upmarket spas and nightclubs, agencies supplying dancers to bordellos recruit talents who are willing to do more than just stripping.
The dancers cost Rp. 1,300k at upmarket spas and Rp. 1,100k at bordellos.
50k tequila shot (I think it's a lemon tea) is for topless lap dancing (you can touch). 100k-150k lady's drink is for sitting next to you and tell you how good looking you are.
Being Asian is an advantage. Now what excuse can I give the Home Minister for travelling to Columbia? Hmmm.
MD IIExploring new markets for your product or ask brother Panya what excuse he used to come here ;)
Tenth Legion
04-04-11, 17:31
Thanks for the responses Jritz and Master Diver II.
Guess I walked into the wrong lounge. There was another door on that floor and perhaps that led to the "money room". I'll check out the other lounge, speak to the mamasans named and go for the girl wih a real smile / twinkle in her eye other than the one with the perfect a$$. Got to work on my bahasa too.
BTW, I went at 7:00 PM Sunday. It was kinda deserted with only 4-5 clients.
Oh, I did NOT end that night in this sour note. I walked a brisk mile to Star Massage for a quick one and it was chock full of girls and a sizable number of clients. This time tried a new girl called Nieken who has a nice bod, clean, gave pretty good service (not GFE though). Good eye contact during the deed too. Would have gone for my regular there if they had turned up that night.
Only one thing kinda puts me off at the Kota Knock Shops: from evening there are little kids playing right in front of the parlors watching as men come and go, seeing the girls soliciting and all. Well, not as bad as Sonaganchi or Tijuana or the other Red Light Areas of the world but still kinda difficult to walk into such an establishment while a 10 yr old kid is looking at you with a frayed old football in hand. Kinda beyond the walk of "shame" thing, eh?
Mate, I agree with you on those facts. However, you seem forgot to mention one last fact:
- In Pattaya, they have more "impossible-to-tell shemales". In fact around 25% of the so-called WLs in Thai are shemales (which with their natural smooth complexions and better crossover surgery makes it almost impossible, esp. For non-asian foreigners, to differ). So say you've fucked 4 wls in Pattaya, there's a good chance that 1 one of them is (or was) actually a male. And if you've stayed for mongering holidays in Pattaya for 1 month, then do make your own calculation.
Good luck. Most bars have it's ladyboy, but that makes still less than 5% of the working girls (or things). And most of them aren't good looking. Maybe 0, 5% are really look like good looking girls, but you still notice it very quick when you talk with one. I fucked 100s of girls in Pattaya and I seriously doubt that I ever fucked a ladyboy.
Most bars have it's ladyboy, but that makes still less than 5% of the working girls (or things). And most of them aren't good looking. Maybe 0, 5% are really look like good looking girls, but you still notice it very quick when you talk with one. I fucked 100s of girls in Pattaya and I seriously doubt that I ever fucked a ladyboy.First of all, I meant no harm about my statement. Just stating a fact, and gentle warning.
I didn't mean about ladyboy or shemale, I was talking about those who had done "complete" sex reassignment surgery (SRS). They won't stand in the ladyboy / shemale line, they will joining the WLs line.
Facts:
- Thai is now considered the center of world sex reassignment. Their hospitals and surgeons are among the best in the world (for just a country in South East Asia, Thai is on par with US and Canada for the best and most skilled sex reassignment surgeries). Feel free to do your own research, it's just a wikipedia away.
- For an asian country with population just around 60m, how do you think Thai can beat China (population 1, 3 billion) for their transgender reputation and ranks 1 in all Asia for the most People who's undergone the sex reassignment operations?
- Tell me how can you be that confident to tell the differences of wls who's undergone the SRS or not, while even the thai people themselves can't really tell the difference? FYI, I'm of Chinese-indonesian origin and I have some good friends who're native Thais. They actually the ones who warned me about this stuff, and have experienced it first-hand with these so-called "ladies" themselves. Now if the native Thai themselves can be fooled, how much chance would a foreigner (esp westerner) coming first time to Thai have?
- Just for an eye opener, take a look at this Official Thailand Medical Tourism Cluster's Blog:
http://thailandmedicaltourismcluster.wordpress.com/2011/01/20/they-are-all-males/
Again, I'm just stating this as a precaution (among all the better things you've mentioned about Pattaya compared to Jakarta) to fellow mongerers visiting Pattaya (or Thai in general) so not to just go blindly shaggin all the ladies they met, and I absolutely has nothing against Thai people or anything.
And again, good luck.
First of all, I meant no harm about my statement. Just stating a fact, and gentle warning.
I didn't mean about ladyboy or shemale, I was talking about those who had done "complete" sex reassignment surgery (SRS). They won't stand in the ladyboy / shemale line, they will joining the WLs line.
Facts:
- Thai is now considered the center of world sex reassignment. Their hospitals and surgeons are among the best in the world (for just a country in South East Asia, Thai is on par with US and Canada for the best and most skilled sex reassignment surgeries). Feel free to do your own research, it's just a wikipedia away.
- For an asian country with population just around 60m, how do you think Thai can beat China (population 1, 3 billion) for their transgender reputation and ranks 1 in all Asia for the most People who's undergone the sex reassignment operations?
- Tell me how can you be that confident to tell the differences of wls who's undergone the SRS or not, while even the thai people themselves can't really tell the difference? FYI, I'm of Chinese-indonesian origin and I have some good friends who're native Thais. They actually the ones who warned me about this stuff, and have experienced it first-hand with these so-called "ladies" themselves. Now if the native Thai themselves can be fooled, how much chance would a foreigner (esp westerner) coming first time to Thai have?
- Just for an eye opener, take a look at this Official Thailand Medical Tourism Cluster's Blog:
http://thailandmedicaltourismcluster.wordpress.com/2011/01/20/they-are-all-males/
Again, I'm just stating this as a precaution (among all the better things you've mentioned about Pattaya compared to Jakarta) to fellow mongerers visiting Pattaya (or Thai in general) so not to just go blindly shaggin all the ladies they met, and I absolutely has nothing against Thai people or anything.
And again, good luck. Guaranteed a good blowjob thats for sure but one you wouldn't be telling your mates. Hehehehe
Most bars have it's ladyboy, but that makes still less than 5% of the working girls (or things). And most of them aren't good looking. Maybe 0, 5% are really look like good looking girls, but you still notice it very quick when you talk with one. I fucked 100s of girls in Pattaya and I seriously doubt that I ever fucked a ladyboy.Back in Jakarta, a lot of Blok M clubs have a policy of keeping them out. And if a drunken customer straight off the plane can't tell the difference, the other girls sure can. A word to the security guy and they are history.
Lucky enough to be in Jakarta for business on Monday. Having discovered the delights of Jakarta in 2010 I have always wanted to go back. I thought I would depart from Alexis my usual haunt and I'm glad I did.
Took a taxi to Maliboro spa at about 11. 30pm. Walked past the driveway and greeted by some guards who directed me in through a door on the right. 120, 000 for admission, you pay at the end. Stuck on my wristband and walked through the doorway and the sight that I was met with left me with my mouth wide open. Beautiful dancers on a stage in the middle of the room. I took a seat near the stage and sat transfixed as many really beautiful girls danced away, showing their tits and eventually stripping naked. It was amazing, had a great time.
Apart from the dancers on the stage the room is filled with girls who basically come around and touch you to start conversation. They talk and flirt with you. Kiss, you can see and fondle tits and in return you buy girl drinks. Frankly, I was too busy looking at the beauties on the dance stage to care much about these girls though some of them were decent.
I noticed an upper floor which looked like a viewing gallery which seemed to offer better views. I went up and noticed some private seating areas with curtains. Some guys take the dancers and chat and feel them up here.
Now, I reaally wanted a few of these dancers but really didn't know how to go about it? Are the dancers available? Anyone had any success here?
Had a good couple of hours and then went to VS which was rubbish a few ok girls pole dancing in poor surroundings.
So though I didn't fuck I will definately go back and try if someone can advise. The best thing from my short trip was meeting a really beautiful 24 year old jakarta girl, really pretty with a killer body. Recently finished university. Had a good time with her and I am working on making her my sweet freebie when I go back soon. Pretty confident from the signals I was getting.
Fast Eddie 48
04-05-11, 23:50
I will be back in Jarkata next week is the Emporiurm still open, I know it was raided 2 yr ago and closed didn't check it out on my last trip see if it was reopen.
Fast Eddie 48
Here's the deal in Malio Club also known as Malioboro Club
Located in the same building as the Spa is the Malioboro Club.
Malio Club is open from 2100 until 0400 the next morning.
Its tha best place in Jakarta.
To enter Malio you have to pay 121, 000 rupiahs.
Entertainment comes in the form of sexy dancers starting from 2100hrs and every 30 minutes a different group takes over. The dancers do more dancing here than those you see at the spa. IMHO, they are also prettier and serious in their "performance". The dancers are fully cloth at the begining and as the minutes pass by, pieces after pieces are removed. However the fully naked performances are after 12midnight where the g-string is also removed.
The club is a good place to relax and entertain. There are local FL on the take and the price is between 800. 1.2mil rupiahs. Quality is good too. A small pool of local fashion models are also available but it cost 2. 25mil rupiahs. But I wouldn't go for any of them as I find the standard below par. Imports are available but they the same group you see at the spa.
The sexy dancers, some are also available at 1. 3mil rupiahs.
The sexy dancers main source of income is the LD that customers buy at
50K per glass for them. The girl will approach the customer and if agreed, she will climb up your lap and give up a lap dance while exhorting you to squeeze her boobs while she consume the glass of sprite / tequila. The girl receives 20% commission for every glass.
Enjoy the good life
Here's the deal in Malio Club also known as Malioboro Club
Located in the same building as the Spa is the Malioboro Club.
Malio Club is open from 2100 until 0400 the next morning.
Its tha best place in Jakarta.
To enter Malio you have to pay 121, 000 rupiahs.
Entertainment comes in the form of sexy dancers starting from 2100hrs and every 30 minutes a different group takes over. The dancers do more dancing here than those you see at the spa. IMHO, they are also prettier and serious in their "performance". The dancers are fully cloth at the begining and as the minutes pass by, pieces after pieces are removed. However the fully naked performances are after 12midnight where the g-string is also removed.
The club is a good place to relax and entertain. There are local FL on the take and the price is between 800. 1.2mil rupiahs. Quality is good too. A small pool of local fashion models are also available but it cost 2. 25mil rupiahs. But I wouldn't go for any of them as I find the standard below par. Imports are available but they the same group you see at the spa.
The sexy dancers, some are also available at 1. 3mil rupiahs.
The sexy dancers main source of income is the LD that customers buy at
50K per glass for them. The girl will approach the customer and if agreed, she will climb up your lap and give up a lap dance while exhorting you to squeeze her boobs while she consume the glass of sprite / tequila. The girl receives 20% commission for every glass.
Enjoy the good lifeThanks for the info. SO I guess those are ST rates? And rooms in same building?
I'll try and go for some of the better looking dancers I saw last time, you said some are available so take it others are not available?
I'm back in Jakarta Wednesday and can't wait to hit Malio again. Anyone care to join let me know.
Just curious if anyone has had any luck in loewy or the dragon fly?
Just curious if anyone has had any luck in loewy or the dragon fly?Loewy is a place where you can find party girls at the bar when their husbands are out of town. They are late 20's, early to late 30's, well taken care of and married but will go home with you if you are young and good looking or if you offer them enough money to make it worth their while.
Dragon Fly has those same girls, but also has some younger girls. Mostly girls who consider themselves too good to go to places like Blok M. These girls are just as likely to go home with an indo guy as a bule guy and prefer the young guys and will go for free. Money isn't as much of an object. But there are a few girls who happen in there who are hard core hookers and will go with you for a decent price.
Either place is pretty much a waste of time if you are over 50. But there are exceptions.
Thank you. I will give it a shot next time I am in town. One gal I have known for a while sort of mentioned the places this is where she hangs around with her friends. They are exactly what you described. Rich spoiled brats in their late 20's some married some not good looking and sort of "pretending" not to be interested when they really are. They all "hate" the hot spots as there are plenty of DOM (dirty old man) there. LOL.
Loewy is a place where you can find party girls at the bar when their husbands are out of town. They are late 20's, early to late 30's, well taken care of and married but will go home with you if you are young and good looking or if you offer them enough money to make it worth their while.
Dragon Fly has those same girls, but also has some younger girls. Mostly girls who consider themselves too good to go to places like Blok M. These girls are just as likely to go home with an indo guy as a bule guy and prefer the young guys and will go for free. Money isn't as much of an object. But there are a few girls who happen in there who are hard core hookers and will go with you for a decent price.
Either place is pretty much a waste of time if you are over 50. But there are exceptions.
Thanks for the info. SO I guess those are ST rates? And rooms in same building?
I'll try and go for some of the better looking dancers I saw last time, you said some are available so take it others are not available?
I'm back in Jakarta Wednesday and can't wait to hit Malio again. Anyone care to join let me know. Yes these are ST rates just 1 hour all in and the rooms are in the same building and yes not all of the dancers are avaible but you can always aks the mamasan if you want to be very sure.
Primo Bolan
04-14-11, 17:16
I'm posting this in the Jakarta thread because its a Q about the Jakarta airport (Soekarno-Hatta).
Maybe I should try to post it in some travelforum instead, but I'm taking a chance anyway.
Sometimes when I pass Bankok I get a small amount of painkillers and sleepingpills (about 10 of each) , on prescription from a hospital. Its all about an old accident I had. Well however when I read about Jakarta customs and the druglaws in Indonesia I'm getting the feeling that it can be some problems if they catch me with these medications in my bag, even if it is a small amount. How strict is it? Does anybody had some problems with anything like this or for example porn etc? Viagra? Bringing my laptop also but I have time to clean it before I go.
Primo Bolan
Member #4194
04-14-11, 17:22
I'm posting this in the Jakarta thread because its a Q about the Jakarta airport (Soekarno-Hatta).
Maybe I should try to post it in some travelforum instead, but I'm taking a chance anyway.
Sometimes when I pass Bankok I get a small amount of painkillers and sleepingpills (about 10 of each) , on prescription from a hospital. Its all about an old accident I had. Well however when I read about Jakarta customs and the druglaws in Indonesia I'm getting the feeling that it can be some problems if they catch me with these medications in my bag, even if it is a small amount. How strict is it? Does anybody had some problems with anything like this or for example porn etc? Viagra? Bringing my laptop also but I have time to clean it before I go.
Primo BolanBro, not to worry on that. You know why? Because I'm a frequent flyer to Jakarta and normally I bring my Synflex 550mg (one strip 20 pills) and Xanax (one strip 12 pills) with doctors prescription. Normally I just put inside hand luggage. Normally Indonesian customs only check on the cargo luggages. With the prescription, there is no problem at all. Unless you showed them that you are shivering during the custom inspection. Relax bro, nothing will happen. It was just a law.
Br,
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Vageterian
04-14-11, 18:56
I'm posting this in the Jakarta thread because its a Q about the Jakarta airport (Soekarno-Hatta).
Maybe I should try to post it in some travelforum instead, but I'm taking a chance anyway.
Sometimes when I pass Bankok I get a small amount of painkillers and sleepingpills (about 10 of each) , on prescription from a hospital. Its all about an old accident I had. Well however when I read about Jakarta customs and the druglaws in Indonesia I'm getting the feeling that it can be some problems if they catch me with these medications in my bag, even if it is a small amount. How strict is it? Does anybody had some problems with anything like this or for example porn etc? Viagra? Bringing my laptop also but I have time to clean it before I go.
Primo BolanPB I would not worry. As long as the prescriptions are clearly marked you will not have a problem. Even with over the counter they rarely check unless they are super bored.
As far as the laptop porn is concerned I would not worry. Zip file it and send it to your email. I hate to see a man lose his porn. The most I think they would do is ask you to power on any electronic device. To see if it is functioning.
I would be more concerned if they opended my suitcase and found my toys I bring for extra curricular activities. Could be quite embarrassing. But a mans got to play
Primo Bolan
04-14-11, 20:28
Thanks both Vagetarian and Fisherman! It meant alot. PB
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May be sex in Jakarta is funnier? May be are girls more girlfreindly? May be is it easier to find girls for overnight? May be is it easier to find a sweetheart for one week?
What differences between Jakarta and Pattaya?
ThanksI've been passing through Jakarta 4-6 times a year for almost 20 years, and there have only been 3 girls who didn't want to spend the night, and one of those backed out of that night because my hotel was too far away and she wanted to be at home when her daughter woke up, but came in the afternoon and stayed until 10pm. Another was an afternoon assignation with a dangdut singer who was being picked up by her mother after her evening performance. The other time was 3 girls. It was quite early and I think they went back out on the prowl.
I don't know, but I doubt, that my experience is unusual. I've always got the feeling that most girls wouldn't be that happy if I asked them to leave in the middle of the night. Some leave early in the morning to get back to their kids, some leave later and see their kids after school. The ones without kids: depends on whether they work, don't work, how tired they are, etc. And some don't look like leaving unless you make it plain that you need some downtime.
so this is going to be my first report on my last trip to jakarta, apr 14 to 17. since it was rather massive i shall tell it in two parts.
a little bg about myself: i'm a 32 yo indo-chinese. i don't come from or live in jakarta however. for some time now i've taken residence in singapore (mostly) , and also in bintan-batam area. i never do any mongering in singapore though, for obvious reasons: i don't shit where i eat. so far my mongering activities were done in south east asia (mostly indonesia, vietnam, thai) and china (macau and taiwan incld).
thu, apr 14.
took early flight from spore and arrived at jakarta around 11. 00am local time. picked up by business colleagues and straight away swept to lunch followed by other boring business stuffs.
around 5pm, after finished all the business craps, someone suggested it's time to take me out for 'entertainments'. now these are what the so-called business entertainments for chinese, japanese, and korean always consists: spa, dinner, and karaoke (not always in the same order). and the thing about it, the acting host will always insist on paying all the accommodations (it's got to do with honor or sumthing) , and since i'm the acting guest, it's definitely a good thing for me. so we (5 guys) went to sun city spa (8th floor) at glodok area. i've been there couple of times but was still amazed by their luxurious spa facilities (and free foods!). all of my colleagues took prc therapists and recommended one for me too, but i wanted local (for a good massage always go with local therapists). so i talked to the local gro and tipped her 50k to find a therapist in accordance to my likings (lean, pretty and young). went to the room, i was blown away, the therapist was just what she promised, ddg and model material. her name is hesti, around 21yo; tag number is 78 by the way (if you decided to meet her). anyway, her massage was quite good and we had lively conversations during the session. after bathing i asked for other services she might provide, and she replied that she doesn't offer it with just anybody (right.) , but she'll perform cfs with me for rp800k. i quickly consented, because i didn't want to break the overall atmosphere, i wanted a making love experience, not just some duty-call fj. and it really paid off. she let me cim first, and patiently fondled me again to build the game for our big finale (had to add another session time though). after extra-session done, i asked if she'the go out with me to have some fun (movie, dinner, clubbing, whatever.). she said she'the love to and gave me her cell number (can't share the number sorry) , and told me she'the be free around 9pm. i said i was occupied for the night, but i might ask her out for some other nights. she said to call her anytime and we finished the session in a happy note.
around 7. 30pm we decided to have dinner at 5th floor chinese resto and later karaoke on the 6th floor. so basically for time-saving reason, we would complete our business entertainment in sun city.
around 8. 30pm we hit the karaoke room (reserved already by the host apparently) , and shortly brought before us was long line ups of prc lcs. this place only has local lcs (600k) and prc lcs (1m) , top quality though i must say. mind you that the rate's just to accompany you during karaoke time only, and not all the lcs (local or prc) available for 'additional services'. some are always available (ask the mamasan first) and some would only decide upon meeting with the client. my host for the night seemed to have made arrangements with a prc mamasan, and shortly after entering the room a long line up of prcs was brought before us. i had the honor to pick first and so i chose a lovely lady in short black name mimi as my companion for the night. she's just gorgeous and strangely not chinese-like, maybe just 20yo, sweet dimple, big round eyes, tall (170 with shoes off) and claimed she came from sichuan area, overall definitely my type. thus the karaoke course began. a karaoke course usually consists: drinking, singing, a lot of laughing (occasionally crying) , drinking games (dices or hands) , and some might involve using of happy pills (or even drugs). but that night i specifically asked not to. after having somewhat a fun perverted guys bonding time and finishing 2 black labels, we all gladly called it time to go (around 11. 30 i guess). and while the other guys started to get it together i noticed that none of them were taking home their lcs (most i understand were married and had to go back to their families, and others because their lcs refused to follow them back). now i had a bit of dilemma, mimi had been hinting all night long that she wanted to follow me back for further 'activities', but i don't want the other guys to see me taking her out (i esp. didn't feel good if my host knew and then insisted on paying the whole deal). so i made excuse to my friends saying i wanted to wind up a bit at the bar on the 6th floor (now that i think about it, sun city really offers one stop entertainment) and made appointment for tomorrow noon to further meetings. so i sit in the bar with mimi, enjoying the live music and she told me to wait until 1am till her working time finished and then i could take her out. apparently if i take her out during her working time, i have to pay / open vouchers for her for around rp. 3 to 4m (later she told me that she didn't want her mamasan and friends come to think that she's available for booking out, because if you opened voucher one time to a girl for booking out, next time around the girl cannot refuse if other customers wanted to book her out). and she wanted her 'freewill' option to stay open and said she only went out with me because she liked me (really.). so around 1am she excused herself to collect her things and to meet me again at the bar's entrance. i was pleased to see her changed to casual black t-shirt and lovely jean, in my opinion she looked absolutely lovelier than the working dress she's been wearing. man if only it wasn't too late and thursday night i definitely would love to take her around town for proper date, maybe dinner and clubbing. instead we went back to my hotel and ordered some hot tea and food to brush the whiskey off the system a bit and to fill the gas. we started with a nice fooling around, that led to a passionate kiss, and burning sex. we did two rounds that night, first time was done half and half. the second time was much (much) rougher, we explored more positions before erupted in doggy style. in the end we slept cuddling, naked and out of breath. and so end of day 1 for me.
fri, apr 15.
woke up around 8. 30am. got minor headache from whiskey and lack of sleep from last night activities. xing yu still slept very soundly and she looked just as gorgeous as last night (i was secretly scared that all of her gorgeousness was just some alcohol tricks). decided to take a shower and planned for breakfast later because i got appointments started at 11, and i planned to let mimi sleep until 10 (since she told me she usually wake-up around 11 or 12am because her working hours) but while i was showering guess who decided to wake and joined in. so we started rubbing each other's bodies and moved our way to another f-round in the bathtub. afterward we both felt very hungry and decided to take breakfast first before i sent her back to sun city. believe it or not, she never mentioned to me even once about payments, or gifts or taxi fares. nonetheless i decided to put $300 (thinking that's around what'the cost me had i taken her via open-vouchers in sun city anyway) in an envelope and gave it to her, which she took without even looked inside and kissed my cheek. she really impressed me that way. we changed contact (still now) and promised to meet again on my next visit (she texted me however that she'd be back to china end of this month).
a pic of mimi.
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around 4pm i finished all the business nonsense and politely rejected another 'business entertainment' they offered, saying i was tired-not feeling well-excuses. in fact, i already made another plan for tonight, which was taking a night tour with jad (known as jakarta after dark 2 in the isg).
around 7pm we met at the hotel (i was surprised to see him as much as he surprised to see me i reckoned) and had a little briefing over dinner. around 9. 30pm after contended with dinner and introductory we decided to start our tour at the blok m bars area. it was still early though and things a pretty much quiet. according to jad these places will come to a full erect (pun intended) around 12pm up to closing time around 3-4am. it was okay since this is my first tour and i only want to know the mongering places and not come to look for wls. so we went first to a cozy small bar opposite to top gun (forgot the name of the bar) , grabbed a beer and observed the place a bit. during our observation, we somewhat discussed about differences in girl's taste / type between asian (esp. yellow skins like me) and westerner mongerers. in that bar i only found one girl (dancer) that somewhat interested me, the rest i must say were downright ugly (for my taste anyway). and after we checked on the other bars (incld top gun) i concluded that's true, because jad told me this area (blok m) was somewhat a mongering heaven for the westerners. though i didn't like what the girls have to offer there, i did found the atmosphere was friendly and cozy for hang out to drinks with friends. i also was showed a place in the inner bar area which jad pointed out as a place to have a nice bjs (and sts sometimes) , which were an open lounge so you can share those exp (bjs or sts) with your fellow friends or even strangers. i was flabbergasted because that's definitely something out of my cultural range (we always do our business privately and we don't share playground with other guy or guys). but jad explained to me that it was common business to do at the place and encouraged me to try it for myself, which i quickly declined. i had not reached that level yet i said and wondered if i ever will.
at around 11. 30pm we decided to visit hotel travel. but since it was friday night the place was so packed that we couldn't even get a seat. it was my first time there so i was rather taken aback by the atmospheres and wet market-like system inside. i definitely saw some stunners among the wls though and made a mental note to come back here again tomorrow since now all of them are basically occupied (and even if they're available i hated the thought of there's another fellow's dick inside this v just 5 minutes ago). so we went out after satisfied with sight-seeing and paid absolutely nothing. jad told me that this place is value-for-money and i quickly see that it's true. we decided to kelapa gading area next, to a place called king cross. the place is also packed at the time we went, first floor is for local wls and second floor is for imports wls (prcs) and also has bigger lounge area with complete live music and sexy-dancers. in my opinion the quality of prcs was lower than what'the be found at malioboro (later jad told me that this place is owned by same group that owns malio). i decided just to look around and so we squeezed to seat and enjoying the sexy-dancers. we found some were really still at tender age (jad pointed of one that could be no more than 17). we discussed about my girl's type and i pointed two of the dancers that fall into my category. i asked him whether those dancers would be available for st and he immediately went to ask a papasan (apparently he seemed to know all the people and vice versa). i was told that my first choice wasn't available (she's the only one who's not available actually) but the second one is. so we arranged for a st session with her and told to wait a bit till her stage dancing's over. afterward she came to our seat and whether there was a miscom or not, told me that she's not available but asked me to buy her shot-drinks instead. jad interfered and said no way and later told me that she was trying to hassle me (thanks again jad). we then cancelled the whole thing and went out shortly after.
it was around 0. 30am i think, and i was ready to call it a day but jad wanted to show me one place behind hotel travel. it was some kind of a store-house with wls (around 30 girls, most came from west java) where you pick the one you like for takeout (either st or lt). apparently the wls actually live in this house and when customer came, a guy will call them and lined them up to be picked. from what i saw the girls are just average to below average and maybe occasionally stunners, couldn't really tell since we came rather late and most of them were taken-out already. jad told me however, that they're value for money and their services are guaranteed because they're living in the house and not just random freelancers. the storehouse itself has no sign or board or anything to show that they're in the business (from outside it looked just like ordinary storehouse) , so it's known only from mouth to mouth basis or if you know people-in-the-know like jad. he told me there're many places like this around the area and on another areas of jakarta, but since it was quite late and i was quite sleepy (took a red-bull but not helping) , we decided to finish the tour and hit home.
so i went back to the hotel and communicated with a guy (fisherman in isg forum) who provides high-class models / artists for escort services. i picked one of his model selections and the appointment was set for 2pm tomorrow. i ended the night alone but since i'm tired i saw it as a welcomed rest (i got a packed day ahead anyway) and thus ended day 2 for me.
(continued to part 2.)
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