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Fast Eddie 48
04-24-12, 23:51
I'm new to Indonesia. When I saw a post about hotel travel I realised it is walking distance to my hotel and hence I walked there.
I understand they are local, only limited capability to communicate in english. It was difficult to convince them to show me the types of beer before I order (I'm German.
In the entrance I got two number tags. One was for the bag I brought with me, the other was "to order". It took a while until I understood it is not about food or beverage.
Anyway, I had a few beers and watched the scene. Normally I go to pick-up bars and see what happens. In Hotel Travel it seems very well organised and I have a few questions about it:
1. What's the difference between the green, red, blue skirted girls?
2. Once I want to engage what do I have to tell the brown-dressed elder ladies?
3. What is a reasonable rate?
4. What do I get for the monies?
5. Where does the action taking place. No take out I guess, right?
Thanks for guidance, guys.
TTranmuter,
Either you cannot read or you are an idoit there are many report about Hotel Travel here you just need to RTTF, if you cannot get laid at hotel Travel you got a big problem, you don't need to pick up at this place just ask the mamasan which girl you want and she will answer all your question, I am not sure why are you asking all this question if have already been there.
Fast Eddie 48
Master Diver II
04-25-12, 01:38
I'm new to Indonesia. When I saw a post about hotel travel I realised it is walking distance to my hotel and hence I walked there.
I understand they are local, only limited capability to communicate in english. It was difficult to convince them to show me the types of beer before I order (I'm German.
In the entrance I got two number tags. One was for the bag I brought with me, the other was "to order". It took a while until I understood it is not about food or beverage.
Anyway, I had a few beers and watched the scene. Normally I go to pick-up bars and see what happens. In Hotel Travel it seems very well organised and I have a few questions about it:
1. What's the difference between the green, red, blue skirted girls?
2. Once I want to engage what do I have to tell the brown-dressed elder ladies?
3. What is a reasonable rate?
4. What do I get for the monies?
5. Where does the action taking place. No take out I guess, right?
Thanks for guidance, guys.
TI'm guessing but the difference between the colours would probably be to identify which captain / mummy the girls are under. Most of your other questions have been covered here in abundance. Please use the search function. There is take out available but it take note that it is cheaper just after midnight.
MD II
2. Once I want to engage what do I have to tell the brown-dressed elder ladies?Under different Mammy. If you want a particularly girl and are talking to one of the Mami's, she will always steer you to one of HER girls, she can't do a transfer deal with the other groups. Once one of the Mamis has got your attention, the others will tend to respect her turf and not butt in and compete, unless you really insist.
FreebieFan
04-25-12, 05:13
What's with Filipino women on these sites? They seem to be as organized, systematic and persistent as Avon or the Scientologists. I set all my preferences to make it clear that I'm only looking for Indonesian women, but they still spam me. Do they teach them how to hit on foreign men in special classes at school?
DIA is good fun. I've managed to pull a few women through it. Oddly enough, I actually like hanging out with women, having dinner with them, talking to them, so I'm quite happy to meet a few loss leaders who won't put out, for a date or two. I guess the hit rate is around 50% for women I actually meet. I had one real sweety who gave me a shag and then got all guilty after it because of her American boy-friend. After that, she decided she could give me blow jobs, but her pussy was off limits. She swallowed, too. Weird.First up, on DIA no one reads anything. Thats too difficult, so if the pic looks goo, they may send a hello to 100 guys and if a few replies, then the game is on.
DIA is indeed great fun as are a few similar sites.
Picked up many many many both within Philippines, Hong Kong, China, Thailand (freebies in Thailand, yes, thanks DIA!) and of course Jakarta courtesy of DIA. SEveral had the obligatory bule bf, but as he was always "out of town" on "sales trips", at a "convention" I didn't realyl care if they were real or imagined bfs. One obviously was real enough tho, as the girl wh was a sweet secretary (but who blew me in a taxi going down Sudirman one rainy night) sent me her traditional Javanese wedding videos, with her Aussie BF.
All local girls here. All shapes and sizes and qualities. Some do speaks English, just ask the Mummy which girl can. Open daily from 2pm to 2am.
1. Each dress colored girls are assigned to different Mummy, I think two Mummies for each color group. Each colors have 15-20 girls rotated each time customers picked a girl. Most will go back home after servicing a minimum of 5 customers each.
2. If you don't want the Mummy to pick for you. Choose your pick from the selections and find the Mummy for that group. You can go straight to the room to fuck or chat and buy the girl some drink (optional). You might get better service if the girl likes you. Always worked out for me, I prefer good services. If you think that the girl is not suitable for you, you can always request for a new one.
3. It's a fixed rate system. I think it's IDR370k for an hour inclusive room and condom. Tipping is optional starting from IDR50k, you can give more if you like the girl's service, all up to you. I never gotten a bad service so far but maybe because I speak their language and I chat them up and buy them a drink before the fucking.
4. From what I experienced with about 15 girls there for 3 nights (including my threesome and foursome) , catbath, BBBJ (all I had but not all girl do this) , DFK (not all) , all fucking positions I requested, no anal. I got three shots for my threesome (2 hours) and four shots for my foursome (3 hours). Single girl will be 1 shot (1 hour) unless if you want to extend the session.
5. Rooms are upstairs. I always requested for the bigger room with mirrored walls and ceiling so I can see myself banging the girls. Not sure if there's any extra charges for that particular room (still dirt cheap). Takeout only possible if the girl or Mummy trust or like you. They can decline if they wanted. I did took one 18 years old Sundanese girl back to my room after 10pm because her pussy is so damn tight and GFE was really high. Brought her to CJ Mulia for some live music and also supper at Burger Kings. Banged her four times and sent her to the lobby around 8am next day with a IDR300k tip. Takeout will cost you about IDR1. 2Mil after 10pm.
It's almost the same as Hotel Classic but with different pricing. I've gotten better service at Hotel Travel compared to Level 3 & 5 of Hotel Classic girls. Hope this'll help all newbies considering Hotel Travel for some action. So far, the place never disappoints me.
Cheers!
I'm new to Indonesia. When I saw a post about hotel travel I realised it is walking distance to my hotel and hence I walked there.
I understand they are local, only limited capability to communicate in english. It was difficult to convince them to show me the types of beer before I order (I'm German.
In the entrance I got two number tags. One was for the bag I brought with me, the other was "to order". It took a while until I understood it is not about food or beverage.
Anyway, I had a few beers and watched the scene. Normally I go to pick-up bars and see what happens. In Hotel Travel it seems very well organised and I have a few questions about it:
1. What's the difference between the green, red, blue skirted girls?
2. Once I want to engage what do I have to tell the brown-dressed elder ladies?
3. What is a reasonable rate?
4. What do I get for the monies?
5. Where does the action taking place. No take out I guess, right?
Thanks for guidance, guys.
T
John Marigold99
04-26-12, 10:31
Trying to call someone an "idiot" loses its punch when you can't even spell it! Idoit? Try RTTD (reading the fucking dictionary)
Tranmuter,
Either you cannot read or you are an idoit there are many report about Hotel Travel here you just need to RTTF, if you cannot get laid at hotel Travel you got a big problem, you don't need to pick up at this place just ask the mamasan which girl you want and she will answer all your question, I am not sure why are you asking all this question if have already been there.
Fast Eddie 48
Fucking A, indeed.
Trying to call someone an "idiot" loses its punch when you can't even spell it! Idoit? Try RTTD (reading the fucking dictionary)
Trying to call someone an "idiot" loses its punch when you can't even spell it! Idoit? Try RTTD (reading the fucking dictionary)
Try RTTD = reading the fucking dictionary? (nice punch)
NO
Try RTTD = reading the fucking dictionary? (nice punch)
NORTTD should be RTFD (Read The Fucking Dictionary)? So don't judge unless ******
Double Shooter
04-28-12, 14:57
Trying to call someone an "idiot" loses its punch when you can't even spell it! Idoit? Try RTTD (reading the fucking dictionary)Well, the word "idoit" is in one dictionary:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=idoit
Sadly there is no RTTD, try RTFWBG instead, totally irrelevant but fun:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=RTFWBG
Well, the word "idoit" is in one dictionary:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=idoit
Sadly there is no RTTD, try RTFWBG instead, totally irrelevant but fun:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=RTFWBGIf it isn't a case of neurological impairment, there's some keyboard keys backwards, and a missing plural key. With the right meds, eddie gets faster and we're done with this topic.
According to one nightlife website, this place (located above the lobby of the Hyatt) is 'lesbian friendly. ' I saw no signs of that, but it is also 'hooker tolerant' although they are discreet and, and least with me, will await your approach.
Perhaps a little more mature and a little more. Robust than most available Indonesian girls, but that is perhaps an appeal to the Hyatt demographic.
Anyways, for $60 (minor negotiations only) I was pretty comprehensively blown, ridden and drained by Sandra. Mid-thirties, maybe 120 lbs and decent looking with good english.
She was there the next night too, along with maybe 4 'co-workers'. I was just drinking though!
Gentlemen,
I have done a good deal of reading, so please don't say RTFF. From what I have read in the Jakarta thread, it is hard to get a sense of the freelancer scene. I will be coming within the next few months or so, and want to get a sense of how easy it is to find GFE, long time sessions in my hotel with good looking 20-30 year old women. My preference is freelance discos and bars. Not a newbie, vet of most many Latin American countries, the PI and LOS.
A quick paragraph on the "Feel" of the scene and the places would be most appreciated.
Gentlemen,
I have done a good deal of reading, so please don't say RTFF. From what I have read in the Jakarta thread, it is hard to get a sense of the freelancer scene. I will be coming within the next few months or so, and want to get a sense of how easy it is to find GFE, long time sessions in my hotel with good looking 20-30 year old women. My preference is freelance discos and bars. Not a newbie, vet of most many Latin American countries, the PI and LOS.
A quick paragraph on the "Feel" of the scene and the places would be most appreciated.The hotel bars (cj's and bats) and blok M bars are full of what would technically be called freelancers. They can also be found at other places (sometimes Red Square) and at Stadium late if they couldn't pick anyone up earlier. YMMV and you'll surely overpay at the hotel bars but those and Blok M are the core of the Jakarta freelancer scene.
Master Diver II
04-30-12, 07:25
Gentlemen,
I have done a good deal of reading, so please don't say RTFF. From what I have read in the Jakarta thread, it is hard to get a sense of the freelancer scene. I will be coming within the next few months or so, and want to get a sense of how easy it is to find GFE, long time sessions in my hotel with good looking 20-30 year old women. My preference is freelance discos and bars. Not a newbie, vet of most many Latin American countries, the PI and LOS.
A quick paragraph on the "Feel" of the scene and the places would be most appreciated.
The hotel bars (cj's and bats) and blok M bars are full of what would technically be called freelancers. They can also be found at other places (sometimes Red Square) and at Stadium late if they couldn't pick anyone up earlier. YMMV and you'll surely overpay at the hotel bars but those and Blok M are the core of the Jakarta freelancer scene.Well yes, but to add to that, FLs are available ANYWHERE you might see them. Hotel lobbies, shopping centres, restos. Take your pick. If you're a more experienced person in this field, you can spot them more easily. For shooting fish in a barrel, then it's easy enough to go to all the standard bars. Incidentally, I'm not sure how you can have done a great deal of reading here and still not get a feel of the FL scene here.
MD II
According to one nightlife website, this place (located above the lobby of the Hyatt) is 'lesbian friendly. ' I saw no signs of that, but .Probably just means there is a table in the corner where three dykes sit and drink regularly. I don't think there are any dedicated lesbian bars in Jakarta, maybe they have a small corner in some of (mainly male) gay bars around town.
Well yes, but to add to that, FLs are available ANYWHERE you might see them. Hotel lobbies, shopping centres, restos. Take your pick. If you're a more experienced person in this field, you can spot them more easily. For shooting fish in a barrel, then it's easy enough to go to all the standard bars. Incidentally, I'm not sure how you can have done a great deal of reading here and still not get a feel of the FL scene here.
MD IIThanks for the information. As far as your question, there is a difference between knowing the locations and reading a great trip report that gives you a "feel" or "sense" of what a scene is like. Guys are very helpful on the Jakarta site, but I have not seen too many comprehensive trip reports that paint a picture of what it is like. Not a dig, just a comment.
I do apreciate the information.
there is a difference between knowing the locations and reading a great trip report that gives you a "feel" or "sense" of what a scene is like. Guys are very helpful on the Jakarta site, but I have not seen too many comprehensive trip reports that paint a picture of what it is like.Would you be so kind as to include the links of the comprehensive trip reports you have written that give a feel and sense of what a scene is like, that paint a picture? Seeing your great reports would be most helpful, so that we can see the standard. Thank you. This is not a dig.
How can I get this book: Jakarta X-Plorer by Moammar Emka?
Publication date is 2009. No matter how I try to search and find it seems to be unavailable.
Any pdf's? Or links?
Would you be so kind as to include the links of the comprehensive trip reports you have written that give a feel and sense of what a scene is like, that paint a picture? Seeing your great reports would be most helpful, so that we can see the standard. Thank you. This is not a dig.Mostly I post on a my home board- although I have posted a couple of long reports on Peru, and maybe Colombia and TJ. However, that is not very fair, is it? So, here is a long post in the PI is just posted. I am not saying this is "the standard," and I was not trying to be critical, the guys in the Jakarta thread are very helpful, and I have gotten some great PMs.
Here is a link to my PI report. You can tell me if it paints a picture or not.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=1275271&viewfull=1#post1275271
It is in multiple parts, 10183-10191.
The Psychman definitely put up there!
The Psychman definitely put up there!Thanks- I really was not meaning to bust balls here; I just love to read a good trip report that gives me a flavor for a scene, and really hope to get to Jakarta within the next few months.
Oh. Here is also a Tijuana report that is a bit less intensive, but than again only covers a four day trip, and not the best local, so that is what I was working with.
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?2221-Tijuana-Reports&p=998366&viewfull=1#post998366
Again, in multiple posts, so scroll up.
Master Diver II
05-03-12, 08:15
Thanks for the information. As far as your question, there is a difference between knowing the locations and reading a great trip report that gives you a "feel" or "sense" of what a scene is like. Guys are very helpful on the Jakarta site, but I have not seen too many comprehensive trip reports that paint a picture of what it is like. Not a dig, just a comment.
I do apreciate the information.Yes perhaps several of us aren't painting with the same verve and detail we once did. But there have been a few reports over the last few weeks that were pretty detailed. Perhaps you might have missed them.
MD II
Gentlemen,
I have done a good deal of reading, so please don't say RTFF. From what I have read in the Jakarta thread, it is hard to get a sense of the freelancer scene. I will be coming within the next few months or so, and want to get a sense of how easy it is to find GFE, long time sessions in my hotel with good looking 20-30 year old women. My preference is freelance discos and bars. Not a newbie, vet of most many Latin American countries, the PI and LOS. A quick paragraph on the "Feel" of the scene and the places would be most appreciated.I think the real feeling can be achivede only by being there. The forum is superb for the knowledge, preparation work. Great to make you aware of what it is like when you are there, ie you know where to go, you move like you have been there forever and you know what to expect in many ways. But being there is really up to each one to get HIS feeling. Homework shuld be done through ISG as then one cuts a lot of ways and BS that surrounds the mongering areas. One knows the sad stories of the girls are fake etc. First time I went to Nana (BKK) I was with friends and I moved around like I owned the place: they thought I had been there tons of times and indeed I was entering the go-go bars first time as them! Did I knew the feeling already? I think so or, let's put it this way, I had a feeling of what it was going to be.
Long time not visiting this spa, finally last week I went there. Located at Lindeteves Trade Center (LTC) Glodok, jl, Hayam Wuruk. A bit difficult to find the way to the spa at 8th floor if you don't use a car, asking security at 1st floor and found it. They have local and Chinese massaseur.
First I choose Chinese massaseur (350 K / hour). Pick number 83 (name SanSan or CHanChan from Shenzen) as papasan suggested (good massage and can speak english). Massage's so so, but what I don't like was she try to upselling. For extra services like FJ normally for PRC about 800. 1000 K, but she ask for 1200 K. Other service also more expensive. So I just choose massage only.
Unsatisfied, after ate some free food and order (pay) drink, I again choose the 2nd session. This time with no 25 (Fen Fen from Hubei). Face 7, white skin, body 7, 5 but small boob. I read on local forum that she's quite popular and have a good service. After about 15 minutes massage, we discussed about the service. Agreed at 1000 K, then she open her chlotes. Ritual as usual foreplay, BBBJ, MOT, WOT, scissor and finished in doggie. Not bad but not very good, I will give FJ = 7, 5.
Went out poorer but happy.
Went to Classic Terminal. 4 Pm and already at least 50 girls. Mostly young. Prices are the same 271k for one girl and 400k for twosome. I went with an 18yo local. Pretty but poor service. She basically lay there. Well, thats what happens with the young ones on many occasions.
BBBJ and CFS.
Any suggestions in Bandung? I am going to be there for a week?
Cheers
Hey Hbengkok do you Play 1000k direct to the girl or do you pay it at the end at the receptionist / cashier?
Long time not visiting this spa, finally last week I went there. Located at Lindeteves Trade Center (LTC) Glodok, jl, Hayam Wuruk. A bit difficult to find the way to the spa at 8th floor if you don't use a car, asking security at 1st floor and found it. They have local and Chinese massaseur.
First I choose Chinese massaseur (350 K / hour). Pick number 83 (name SanSan or CHanChan from Shenzen) as papasan suggested (good massage and can speak english). Massage's so so, but what I don't like was she try to upselling. For extra services like FJ normally for PRC about 800. 1000 K, but she ask for 1200 K. Other service also more expensive. So I just choose massage only.
Unsatisfied, after ate some free food and order (pay) drink, I again choose the 2nd session. This time with no 25 (Fen Fen from Hubei). Face 7, white skin, body 7, 5 but small boob. I read on local forum that she's quite popular and have a good service. After about 15 minutes massage, we discussed about the service. Agreed at 1000 K, then she open her chlotes. Ritual as usual foreplay, BBBJ, MOT, WOT, scissor and finished in doggie. Not bad but not very good, I will give FJ = 7, 5.
Went out poorer but happy.
Went to Hotel Travel at about 11 o'clock in the evening last night. It was heaving, almost like the subway in Tokyo at peak hour, people lining up for rooms. I had no less than three girls say "Nggak mau!" (I'm not fat, disfigured, or unusually ugly) to a bule customer. Never had anything like that before, maybe it was so busy that they'd all reached their quotas or whatever, they were being more picky. One of them said she'd do it, but only with another girl there too. In the end, I went down to Jaksa and pulled a girl there instead, at least I wasn't going to cop flack for being a bule there. I won't cross Hotel Travel off my list, but I'm not going back on Friday night.
I won't cross Hotel Travel off my list.I crossed it off years ago. I'm about as much bule basi as you get and I think it's a crap place for a westerner to go. I do speak bahasa, but I've had nothing but bad experiences there. It's a fine place for locals or Malaysians, but I don't recommend it to any of my western friends. Bad service from the girls and the rooms are not nice. The locals loudly singing karaoke in the main room is annoying as well.
Member #2041
05-05-12, 18:40
I crossed it off years ago. I'm about as much bule basi as you get and I think it's a crap place for a westerner to go. I do speak bahasa, but I've had nothing but bad experiences there. It's a fine place for locals or Malaysians, but I don't recommend it to any of my western friends. Bad service from the girls and the rooms are not nice. The locals loudly singing karaoke in the main room is annoying as well.Really? I'm a big fat bule, and I've had maybe 10 sessions there, ranging from good to spectacular. Never less than good. I do tend to go earlier in the day, maybe mid-late afternoon, or before 10 PM.
I'll be in Jakarta in 2 weeks. Any good experience on cif and of so whas it included or with extra kost?
Went to Classic Terminal. 4 Pm and already at least 50 girls. Mostly young. Prices are the same 271k for one girl and 400k for twosome. I went with an 18yo local. Pretty but poor service. She basically lay there. Well, thats what happens with the young ones on many occasions.
BBBJ and CFS.
Any suggestions in Bandung? I am going to be there for a week?
CheersI spent a week at Classic hotel last month, and visited Terminal and Terminal 2 every night. The lookers arrive after 8pm and the rate is R270, 000 plus tip around R50, 000 for a session lasting around 45 minutes. Wait at the ground floor restaurant and watch the girls come in and head to the elevators. Try to make eye contact and if lucky chat up a girl that you have the hots for and catch up with her later at the Terminal she works at. Huge selection of gals, some good performers, the others need to be guided. Once you set up a rapport with a girl you like, take her cell number and shag her during the daytime for R 200, 000 tip plus a lunch. Visit the ground floor karaoke bar if you like to enjoy Russian and Kazakh women. Some are stunners, asking for R2 million, negotiated down to R1. 5, but performance was basic. Locals go for this flesh as a status symbol. Tried Hotel Travel, but girls at Classic are much better. Alexis is expensive and you waste time sitting in the Maanga Dua traffic. English is not a popular language. Tell the hotel bell hop where you need to travel and he will get the Blue Bird cab to drop you off. Keep a hotel card and get a Blue bird cab to get you back. Beware of the other cabbies. Negotiate before you get in.
Hey Hbengkok do you Play 1000k direct to the girl or do you pay it at the end at the receptionist / cashier?This time I paid at cashier with my credit card. There's a form that the massage girl want you to sign, one column is about the tip, that you can fill / write how much you want to give. Before I know, I bring cash for tip, but because wearing robe / short without pocket, it; s difficult to hide the money.
I spent a week at Classic hotel last month, and visited Terminal and Terminal 2 every night.
Visit the ground floor karaoke bar if you like to enjoy Russian and Kazakh women. Some are stunners, asking for R2 million, negotiated down to R1. 5, but performance was basic.Are they freelance or work at karaoke?
Where exactly the place? At the Classic Club they charge about 1, 7 million for the imported lady, but since you can negotiate maybe they aren't from there.
Thank you.
Member #4537
05-06-12, 08:50
The lookers arrive after 8pm and the rate is R270, 000 plus tip around R50, 000 for a session lasting around 45 minutes. Wait at the ground floor restaurant and watch the girls come in and head to the elevators. Try to make eye contact and if lucky chat up a girl that you have the hots for and catch up with her later at the Terminal she works at. Huge selection of gals, some good performers, the others need to be guided. Once you set up a rapport with a girl you like, take her cell number and shag her during the daytime for R 200, 000 tip plus a lunch. Visit the ground floor karaoke bar if you like to enjoy Russian and Kazakh women. Some are stunners, asking for R2 million, negotiated down to R1. 5, but performance was basic. Locals go for this flesh as a status symbol. Tried Hotel Travel, but girls at Classic are much better. Alexis is expensive and you waste time sitting in the Maanga Dua traffic. English is not a popular language. Tell the hotel bell hop where you need to travel and he will get the Blue Bird cab to drop you off. Keep a hotel card and get a Blue bird cab to get you back. Beware of the other cabbies. Negotiate before you get in.Actually, the girls from Terminal are there from as early as 4 PM on weekdays and weekends. And the Terminal girls use a backdoor entrance go get in, not the one through the ground floor restaurant.
I'm also not sure how you could negotiate down the price of the import girls at Bunker (the ground floor KTV area with an entrance fee) , as it's 1, 700, 000 Rp. Per hour regardless of your bargaining skills. As far as I know, and I've been there quite a few times, none of the imports go for above 1, 700, 000. And they get pretty pissed off if you don't give them more than 200, 000 Rp. Of tips. The only place I've known that charges higher than 1, 700, 000 for imports (such as Koreans) is Alexis.
Oh, and the Travel Girls are no different than Classik. Once the contract at one venue is over for the girl, they rotate between the two. I've seen the same girls rotate between the two venues for years.
I crossed it off years ago. I'm about as much bule basi as you get and I think it's a crap place for a westerner to go. I do speak bahasa, but I've had nothing but bad experiences there. It's a fine place for locals or Malaysians, but I don't recommend it to any of my western friends. Bad service from the girls and the rooms are not nice. The locals loudly singing karaoke in the main room is annoying as well.I wouldn't go as far as "nothing but bad experiences". The girls tend to be young and inexperienced, and often just go starfish. If they can get the job finished in 15 minutes, they'll be back on the couch texting granny back in the village all that much quicker to check on junior. On the other hand, it's one of the only on-site knocking shops open til late at night, which fills a niche need. I've had good service there a few times, including the first time I went, which put me in a favorable state of mind. Still, I prefer slightly older girls who have a better repertoire.
I crossed it off years ago. I'm about as much bule basi as you get and I think it's a crap place for a westerner to go. I do speak bahasa, but I've had nothing but bad experiences there. It's a fine place for locals or Malaysians, but I don't recommend it to any of my western friends. Bad service from the girls and the rooms are not nice. The locals loudly singing karaoke in the main room is annoying as well.As some of you may know, I'm not exactly a bule. But me too, I've never but once, had a good session at Travel. It was with a girl I knew from jl. Industri, and maybe the exception was due to a "please don't tell the mamasan I've worked in a brothel before".
Primo Bolan
05-07-12, 13:01
As some of you may know, I'm not exactly a bule. But me too, I've never but once, had a good session at Travel. It was with a girl I knew from jl. Industri, and maybe the exception was due to a "please don't tell the mamasan I've worked in a brothel before".300k is still pretty cheap. Young slim girls from what I remembered, and it was pretty clean. I don't even think if I know how to define good sessions anymore. Give me a pretty girl that knows how to suck and fuck and thats fine with me.
Pb
Give me a pretty girl that knows how to suck and fuck and thats fine with me.Well, that's the problem. They don't really seem to know or they aren't enthusiastic about putting what they know into practice.
Not a report, but a question. Is genuine Apcalis for sale in Jakarta? Cialis is available in the pharmacies for about Rp350,000 for a two-pack which I can buy worldwide. One would think that there is a sales opportunity here, but I've never been offered it or seen it. I really need a reliable retailer and I don't travel via India. Any suggestions?
Not a report, but a question. Is genuine Apcalis for sale in Jakarta? Cialis is available in the pharmacies for about Rp350,000 for a two-pack which I can buy worldwide. One would think that there is a sales opportunity here, but I've never been offered it or seen it. I really need a reliable retailer and I don't travel via India. Any suggestions?John, I've bought some at hole in the wall type vendors before, although I didn't ask for it by name, it was just what they had on offer. The guy just said it was "Indian viagra" and that it was good quality and reasonable price (but not dirt cheap, like in India. My favorite brand there was called "Pop-Up", available for about 20 cents a. Pop. We'll talk about population issues on another thread).
Diverging slightly, has anyone come across an Indonesian herb called "pasak bumi" or "tongkat ali"? It's the active ingredient in a lot of the male strength jamu, but is also sold in its pure form by some online vendors. Interesting.
John, I've bought some at hole in the wall type vendors before, although I didn't ask for it by name, it was just what they had on offer. The guy just said it was "Indian viagra" and that it was good quality and reasonable price (but not dirt cheap, like in India. My favorite brand there was called "Pop-Up", available for about 20 cents a. Pop. We'll talk about population issues on another thread).
Diverging slightly, has anyone come across an Indonesian herb called "pasak bumi" or "tongkat ali"? It's the active ingredient in a lot of the male strength jamu, but is also sold in its pure form by some online vendors. Interesting.Years ago a friend gave me a piece of pasak bumi he bought in Banjarmasin. I had to keep it in whiskey and every day I was supposed to drink a small glass of it. Then, after a week my erection would be able to break a coconut. I've never tried the latter one, not the least for lack of an impressive erection.
Then, after a week my erection would be able to break a coconut. I've never tried the latter one, not the least for lack of an impressive erection.Just ask the waitress to open it up for you. It always works for me.
Master Diver II
05-11-12, 09:11
Not a report, but a question. Is genuine Apcalis for sale in Jakarta? Cialis is available in the pharmacies for about Rp350,000 for a two-pack which I can buy worldwide. One would think that there is a sales opportunity here, but I've never been offered it or seen it. I really need a reliable retailer and I don't travel via India. Any suggestions?That sounds expensive, I can get Cialis in Kuala Lumpur for USD47-50 for a pack of four from the pharmacy.
Years ago a friend gave me a piece of pasak bumi he bought in Banjarmasin. I had to keep it in whiskey and every day I was supposed to drink a small glass of it. Then, after a week my erection would be able to break a coconut. I've never tried the latter one, not the least for lack of an impressive erection.
Hahahahahaha You forget we've seen your photos bro. :p I have some friends who do swear by Tongkat Ali as well, and I have tried one of the concoctions with it. It worked quite well but my doctor has issued strict instructions not to consume anything which has not had proper clinical trials. This was after an episode with some supposed Macca extract where I ended up with a bleeding nose and blood in the semen (after a strenuous session;)). Scared the living daylights out of me.
MD II
Hi, I'm going to Thailand for a month starting July 13. I had the plan of going to Indonesia around July 24 and stay for a week, just to experince a different mongering scene compared to Bangkok, but notice ramadan starts July 20? My luck hehe.
Now I'm thinking of going to Jakarta July 15 and stay until 19. What do you guys think, is it worth going to Jakarta for those few days and to hopefully have a good time or will it be too much hassle? What I really want is to expernce something different compared to the mongering scene in Thailand.
Hi, I'm going to Thailand for a month starting July 13. I had the plan of going to Indonesia around July 24 and stay for a week, just to experince a different mongering scene compared to Bangkok, but notice ramadan starts July 20? My luck hehe.
Now I'm thinking of going to Jakarta July 15 and stay until 19. What do you guys think, is it worth going to Jakarta for those few days and to hopefully have a good time or will it be too much hassle? What I really want is to expernce something different compared to the mongering scene in Thailand.Any time other than Ramadhan, I'd do it. But not during Ramadhan. Maybe try the Philippines?
Any time other than Ramadhan, I'd do it. But not during Ramadhan. Maybe try the Philippines?Thanks for the reply. I have been considering going to Angeles in the Philippines, but after reading on the forum, it is not so much to do beside fucking.
I will think about going to Jakarta July 15, and go back to Bangkok the day before Ramadan starts; July 19. The days just before Ramadan should be ok, right?
This was after an episode with some supposed Macca extract where I ended up with a bleeding nose and blood in the semen (after a strenuous session.). Scared the living daylights out of me.
MD IIAre you sure it was the Macca? I've never touched that, but during a session at Knight1001's place I bleeded like a pig while the girl was giving a BBBJ. I was scared like hell but imagine the girls reaction!
BTW, any of you know about bro Knight's whereabouts? Have lost track.
Thanks for the reply. I have been considering going to Angeles in the Philippines, but after reading on the forum, it is not so much to do beside fucking.
I will think about going to Jakarta July 15, and go back to Bangkok the day before Ramadan starts; July 19. The days just before Ramadan should be ok, right?The day before ramadan should be OK. But keep in mind that people start fasting at the sunrise so maybe only July 19 can slightly problematic.
Traveler1234
05-12-12, 23:49
BTW, any of you know about bro Knight's whereabouts? Have lost track.He was in the area around Nov 2011 for a month or so, traveling and having good time. I suspect he's back home and planning a trip later this year?
Member #4351
05-13-12, 03:34
after an episode with some supposed Macca extract where I ended up with a bleeding nose and blood in the semenI take a lot of highly concentrated Maca every day since it comes from here in Peru. Its innocuous and just gives you more energy and a greater quantity of semen.
Master Diver II
05-14-12, 02:13
I take a lot of highly concentrated Maca every day since it comes from here in Peru. Its innocuous and just gives you more energy and a greater quantity of semen.
Are you sure it was the Macca? I've never touched that, but during a session at Knight1001's place I bleeded like a pig while the girl was giving a BBBJ. I was scared like hell but imagine the girls reaction!
BTW, any of you know about bro Knight's whereabouts? Have lost track.I believe the basis is that most things that help in terms of erections, do so by dilating blood vessels. The key is correct dosage and how your body reacts to it. Either my macca extract included something else or it's not suitable for me. The incident occurred during the second round, which incidentally followed shortly after the first round; little bro woke up while showering after round 1 - this was not normal for me as I was already in my 40s!:p Anyway, it's safer for me to stay away rather than risk other health issues.
Knight was here around November (I think) but he's based in Europe or Middle East now. I think JAD should know, as I heard they met up. I have his email address somewhere and will forward to you if I find it bro.
Hi, I'm going to Thailand for a month starting July 13. I had the plan of going to Indonesia around July 24 and stay for a week, just to experince a different mongering scene compared to Bangkok, but notice ramadan starts July 20? My luck hehe.
Now I'm thinking of going to Jakarta July 15 and stay until 19. What do you guys think, is it worth going to Jakarta for those few days and to hopefully have a good time or will it be too much hassle? What I really want is to expernce something different compared to the mongering scene in Thailand.Normally the first couple of days, the two days in the middle and the last few days of Ramadhan may be difficult. Ironically, some of the girls don't mind having fun during the night so it's not all bad; you do need to know your way around though. Alternatively, if you're into it, the internet dating scene can still reap dividends.
MD II
SE Asia Joe
05-14-12, 03:48
A doctor friend of mine told me that a lot of guys who are on daily Aspirin treatment for their heart condition do not even know that their blood gets to be so thin that they freak out when they get uncontrollable bleeding I. E. Even from just overly aggressive dental flossing.
SEAJ
More tits!Where is this sir?
Member #4385
05-14-12, 17:29
I wonder if any of you know of any establishments like spa`s or bordellos here in Jakarta that have girls who offer anal sex, and that you might be able to request this from the management / mamasan. In my experience I only had a few girls who agreed on anal sex in 2012, a couple of girls in-house girls at the stadium bordello and a few freelancers at the bars in blokm. However there should be establishments which can offer services like this, anyone has any light to shed on anal sex in Jakarta?
I wonder if any of you know of any establishments like spa`s or bordellos here in Jakarta that have girls who offer anal sex, and that you might be able to request this from the management / mamasan.In my limited experience, that approach doesn't go down well, or certainly not until you are a known regular with a good reputation. In fact, I tried it at Berlian a while back, and I had a bit of a bad reputation for a visit or two, one or two of the girls whispered to each other and turned me away, even when I didn't ask for anything like that again. After a visit or two, the word got around that I don't push for weird stuff or get "kecewa" when they say no and, more importantly, I tip. So now I'm back in favor again. I find if you have a good time with a girl and then go back, she's much more likely to offer more the second time. Had that with Michelle the other day, quite good the first time around but way better the second, a great AR performer. She doesn't take it up the ass, though.
John Aldrich
05-15-12, 19:45
I wonder if any of you know of any establishments like spa`s or bordellos here in Jakarta that have girls who offer anal sex, and that you might be able to request this from the management / mamasan. In my experience I only had a few girls who agreed on anal sex in 2012, a couple of girls in-house girls at the stadium bordello and a few freelancers at the bars in blokm. However there should be establishments which can offer services like this, anyone has any light to shed on anal sex in Jakarta?I had in the past posted about Ibu Linda's massage parlor in Hayam Wuruk area. It's a couple of streets before the street where Berlian is. Almost every girl offers Anal, since almost all are 30+. At Maribaya, there is a girl by name Yeni. She is from Surabaya and have seen her there for over 10 years there. She is game with anything including Anal. I guess, if you try and pick up a girl who is 30 and above in any bordello, you are most likely to get Anal. That's what has been my experience.
Cheers,
MurphyLove
05-16-12, 15:27
Jakarta FR.
I simply love jakarta for the quality and ease of carrying out my activities. First night in CJs was a Sunday and the number of girls were less than normal. Saw several old timers but was attracted to a very good looking girl who quoted 2 juta for ST. Tried to bring her down but no luck so ended up taking another girl for 1 juta for LT.
2nd night back in CJ, picked up a girl who I had tried during my earlier visit. I had found the experience good and was happy to repeat her. She did not disappoint and was great fun for the next 3 hours. After that let her go and went to sleep as I had to travel early next morning.
After 2 days, again found the same girl I had missed on the 1st night and offered her 1. 5 million to which she agreed. Apparently she has half arabic lineage and was absolutely GFE in bed. The only problem is the high cost for ST. She does not stay LT or thats what she told me.
Last night in jakarta wanted to try out Hartono about which I had heard so much. Took a taxi to his place and it was really tough finding the address. Also used google map to trace the address but several roads had detours as they were closed. Finally found the place and was welcomed by the mamasan. She arranged the lineup of about 8 girls out of which I only found one of the girls to be worth the money. The standard rate is 3 mill for 4 hours. Paid the cash and took the girl to my hotel. One of the best experience I would say. Although expensive the girl was absolutely GFE and took lot of efforts to make me satisfied. Stayed for almost 4 hours and we made full use of it. Had 3 pops and the girl did not mind going for another one. She said if she is late beyond the 4 hours she has to pay hartono 3 mill (not sure if thats true)
Hope to be back soon and try out more of the hartono pearls. Also wanted to check out Alexis / Travel this time but did not get the chance so planning to do that next time.
Thanks MurphyLove for that Hartono report. I've heard of the name before but never realized that it was a take out house.
One mill, one and a half mill, two mill, three mill, before you know it you're talking serious money.
Am I too long out of the bar scene? Is that the sort of money that's being thrown around these days?
No wonder my never-ending supply of students from East Jakarta always insist on an extra fifty thou "buat ongkos" when I pay them my going rate of three hundred thou.
I used to think I was a big spender too, pelit buanget mister!
One mill, one and a half mill, two mill, three mill, before you know it you're talking serious money.
Am I too long out of the bar scene? Is that the sort of money that's being thrown around these days?Absolutely not. At least I would hope you guys aren't paying those kind of prices.
Hartono's has always been over priced. In my opinion, paying $300 in Jakarta for a short time girl who is not some kind of star is a bit nutty. You can find hot girls all over town!
Here's a story about my last visit to Hartono's: (I've only been there 3 times and have never taken a girl from there.) About 4 years ago, I had taken a very hot girl from Tiga Puluh the night before. I must say she was a stunner and a very rare find. I shagged her 3 times that night and paid her 700k in the morning. At that time, it was the most I had ever given any girl in Jakarta, but she was really nice so I thought it was worth the money. We ended up hanging out the next day and going to a movie together. After the movie, we took a taxi and I dropped her off at home in a silverbird taxi. After dropping her off, the taxi told me she was a very nice girl and asked me how much I paid for her. I didn't tell him how much, but he then asked me if I wanted to have another girl even better than her. I said "sure" and off we drove. He took me to Hartono's. At first I was disappointed to see where we landed because I had been there before and not seen any girls I thought worth that kind of money. He guaranteed me that they had many girls in there as nice or better than the girl I had just been with. So I went in and checked. There were about 8 girls in there at the time and ONE of them was in the same league as the girl I had just dropped off. But I chatted with that girl and she didn't have an attitude that I appreciated so I took a pass. I then went outside and told the taxi that he was wrong about the girls being better than the other one, but thanked him for trying.
A few weeks later, I saw that hotty from Tiga Puluh at Bats standing in front of the elevators outside Bats arguing with a Japanese guy. She was demanding 2 million for the night and he was telling her it should only be 1 million since he just paid 2 million for her drinks and dinner inside Bats. I'm not sure how that worked out, but it's obvious that these girls ask whatever rate they think they can get.
I will say that even though girls at Blok M and CJs and Bats have upped their rates, Hartono's still charges 3 million. And from what they claim, these are not girls who are as hard core as the Bats or Cjs girls.
For my taste and value for money, I'd prefer Dorman's student girls over the hartono's chicks.
Master Diver II
05-22-12, 02:43
Absolutely not. At least I would hope you guys aren't paying those kind of prices.
Hartono's has always been over priced. In my opinion, paying $300 in Jakarta for a short time girl who is not some kind of star is a bit nutty. You can find hot girls all over town!
Here's a story about my last visit to Hartono's: (I've only been there 3 times and have never taken a girl from there.) About 4 years ago, I had taken a very hot girl from Tiga Puluh the night before. I must say she was a stunner and a very rare find. I shagged her 3 times that night and paid her 700k in the morning. At that time, it was the most I had ever given any girl in Jakarta, but she was really nice so I thought it was worth the money. We ended up hanging out the next day and going to a movie together. After the movie, we took a taxi and I dropped her off at home in a silverbird taxi. After dropping her off, the taxi told me she was a very nice girl and asked me how much I paid for her. I didn't tell him how much, but he then asked me if I wanted to have another girl even better than her. I said "sure" and off we drove. He took me to Hartono's. At first I was disappointed to see where we landed because I had been there before and not seen any girls I thought worth that kind of money. He guaranteed me that they had many girls in there as nice or better than the girl I had just been with. So I went in and checked. There were about 8 girls in there at the time and ONE of them was in the same league as the girl I had just dropped off. But I chatted with that girl and she didn't have an attitude that I appreciated so I took a pass. I then went outside and told the taxi that he was wrong about the girls being better than the other one, but thanked him for trying.
A few weeks later, I saw that hotty from Tiga Puluh at Bats standing in front of the elevators outside Bats arguing with a Japanese guy. She was demanding 2 million for the night and he was telling her it should only be 1 million since he just paid 2 million for her drinks and dinner inside Bats. I'm not sure how that worked out, but it's obvious that these girls ask whatever rate they think they can get.
I will say that even though girls at Blok M and CJs and Bats have upped their rates, Hartono's still charges 3 million. And from what they claim, these are not girls who are as hard core as the Bats or Cjs girls.
For my taste and value for money, I'd prefer Dorman's student girls over the hartono's chicks.I'm with Smoothy on all points. I took a Hartonos girl once (9 years ago) and while the "service was good, it wasn't mind blowing. At that time I was charged 3 million LT. Not my choice really but my managing director insisted that we all partake. It was on expenses so at least my pocket wasn't hit. During the same trip, he had someone bring some girls to our roomsat2 million LT. The girl gave me her number and came over the next night; she was happy to leave in the morning with 500k. Sometimes the "arrangers" or pimps are taking a huge cut. Since then I've become a lot more seasoned and seen much the same thing as Smoothy: the girls will assess you and take what they think they can get. Hence, I always stay in smaller boutique hotels (favourite question: where are you staying = how much you can afford) and let them know very early that I have been to Jakarta many times and know my prices.
Even now that I have moved to the dating scene, a similar scenario is at play; so I will always stay somewhere decent but not overly expensive, and go out to simple as well as nicer restaurants. It sets the "oleh oleh" and general expectation levels accordingly. One might not be averse to the odd penniless student though. ;)
MD II
I came in as a newbie. I discovered Jakarta's lack of infrastructure and mass transit. Its a miserable city but the people who live there are proud just like anywhere else they probably think they live in the best place in the world. There are not so many foreigners around. I found the local people are nice. In many respects nicer and not jaded or spoiled like the Thais.
In the day time it was miserably hot and polluted. Traffic is bad and its doesn't seem like there is much to do. I rarely saw a park or a nice place. There are some interesting narrow streets and ghettos. The Girls are nice. There are places all for around for pay and play. I can't recall any addresses but I even got laid in the Stadium Disco aswell as the Dojo ghetto brothel area where you get a cheap screw in a nasty little room and can wash after with a pail of water and a ladle. The girls were not expensive and in my experience they were enjoyable. Yeah Jakarta has some sweet poontang but a bit of a torturous place to live. I think 3 nights is enough time for a visit to Jakarta.
. I can't recall any addresses but I even got laid in the Stadium Disco aswell as the Dojo ghetto brothel area where you get a cheap screw in a nasty little room and can wash after with a pail of water and a ladle. The girls were not expensive and in my experience they were enjoyable.I wouldn't call that exactly a hard sell, but even so, it's interesting, I don't think we've heard much about Dojo on this forum. Care to tell us a bit more? Prices?
The trouble with seedy brothel districts in my view is that they tend to be only slightly cheaper than Kota bordellos, but not as good value, in my experience, but prove me wrong.
I'll second Giobotto's sentiments on the people and physical environment of Jakarta. I took the bus a lot which was hot but fun. The young people there give their seat to elderly and women which is very polite. I had one of the best DIAs ever in Jakarta. She had HUGE knockers and we banged 5X in 24 hours. A recent record for me. On our second date she brought a girlfriend who was younger, hotter and even bustier! The three of us had a fantastic time. One of my best times ever! When I go back in October I'm going to take her to Bali, possibly with another of her girlfriends. Sorry, guys, no contact info. I'm keeping this one for me.
I came in as a newbie. I discovered Jakarta's lack of infrastructure and mass transit. Its a miserable city but the people who live there are proud just like anywhere else they probably think they live in the best place in the world. There are not so many foreigners around. I found the local people are nice. In many respects nicer and not jaded or spoiled like the Thais.
In the day time it was miserably hot and polluted. Traffic is bad and its doesn't seem like there is much to do. I rarely saw a park or a nice place. There are some interesting narrow streets and ghettos. The Girls are nice. There are places all for around for pay and play. I can't recall any addresses but I even got laid in the Stadium Disco aswell as the Dojo ghetto brothel area where you get a cheap screw in a nasty little room and can wash after with a pail of water and a ladle. The girls were not expensive and in my experience they were enjoyable. Yeah Jakarta has some sweet poontang but a bit of a torturous place to live. I think 3 nights is enough time for a visit to Jakarta.
Master Diver II
05-24-12, 02:18
I'll second Giobotto's sentiments on the people and physical environment of Jakarta. I took the bus a lot which was hot but fun. The young people there give their seat to elderly and women which is very polite. I had one of the best DIAs ever in Jakarta. She had HUGE knockers and we banged 5X in 24 hours. A recent record for me. On our second date she brought a girlfriend who was younger, hotter and even bustier! The three of us had a fantastic time. One of my best times ever! When I go back in October I'm going to take her to Bali, possibly with another of her girlfriends. Sorry, guys, no contact info. I'm keeping this one for me.I can totally understand that bro. A lot of these girls are not the type you can necessarily pass around. You need to get to know them and let them like you. There are some straight up P4Ps on the dating sites, but those are a different kettle of fish. Thinking about the Jakarta environs, yes it's not easy to find parks (ok there is one around Monas and whatever happened to Taman Ria Senayan) but the city grows on you in a funny way and you learn to find little havens here and there; you also learn to time yourself to avoid the worst of the traffic. Is it strange to find myself having withdrawal symptoms if I haven't come back here for a month?
MD II
I came in as a newbie. I discovered Jakarta's lack of infrastructure and mass transit. Its a miserable city but the people.In the day time it was miserably hot and polluted. Traffic is bad and its doesn't seem like there is much to do. I rarely saw a park or a nice place. There are some interesting narrow streets and ghettos. a bit of a torturous place to live. I think 3 nights is enough time for a visit to Jakarta.More so than most cities, Hotel in Jakarta makes a big difference. One that's like an oasis is what you need. IF you want to go cheap, or you're just low budget, you're liable to conclude something like this guy did. There's a new Sofitel that's being built near to the Mercure, Looking forward as soon as it's ready.
More so than most cities, Hotel in Jakarta makes a big difference. One that's like an oasis is what you need. IF you want to go cheap, or you're just low budget, you're liable to conclude something like this guy did. There's a new Sofitel that's being built near to the Mercure, Looking forward as soon as it's ready.Great city to live in, lousy city to pass through.
Member #4410
05-24-12, 20:50
I can totally understand that bro. A lot of these girls are not the type you can necessarily pass around. You need to get to know them and let them like you. There are some straight up P4Ps on the dating sites, but those are a different kettle of fish. Thinking about the Jakarta environs, yes it's not easy to find parks (ok there is one around Monas and whatever happened to Taman Ria Senayan) but the city grows on you in a funny way and you learn to find little havens here and there; you also learn to time yourself to avoid the worst of the traffic. Is it strange to find myself having withdrawal symptoms if I haven't come back here for a month?
MD III know exactly what you mean. Jakarta is a dirty, smelly place with way too many cars (although during Idul Fitri the streets are mercifully empty and you can actually see the mountains that surround the town). But it is like you say: it grows on you and you can never really leave.
Regards,
Ko
Now the next day I was at Ambaraukmo Plaza, the swankiest mall in Jogjakarta. There's a newish star-rated hotel next to it, the Hotel Ambarukmo. On the opposite side of the street, just before where the warung nasi kambing is, there is a seafood restaurant.
I.Well as you wrote such a nice detailed report I remember some practical yogyakarta info.
If you pass Ambarukmo plaza (it is on your left side) , just continue straight on and you will see a pertamina station (really not far). Just behind the station turn left and follow the road for a few minutes (I am talking about a motorized vehicle). This road will lead you to some nice local music bars where local students hang out. I never saw any bule (especially the usual lucifer / ruiz crowd) hang around there. It could be interesting to see what you can get there, especially if you are around for more then a few days. If you would like something more organized. Just sit down at the family karaoke in this street (your left side / big sign / parking place / an ATM inside the sportcomplex nextdoor). No way you can miss it) and a guy speaking english quite well will approach you to offer girls. Pictures are provided on his cellphone. I do not know the prices but as it is hard to find in yogya some organized FS this could be your place.
Absolutely not. At least I would hope you guys aren't paying those kind of prices.
Hartono's has always been over priced. In my opinion, paying $300 in Jakarta for a short time girl who is not some kind of star is a bit nutty. You can find hot girls all over town!
HI almost got a heart attack when I read those prices.
Most I paid in jakarta was around 1. 4 juta, which included 1 hour excellent roomservicecallmassage and 1 hour FS in a 4-5 star jakarta hotel for quite perfect looking local midtwenty girls. Which is still to much in my opinion but they know what you pay for the room and they know the massage heated you up (2 hours massage in a 4-5 star hotel should be around 400. 000 ). On the other hand it includes you just staying in your room without having to face traffic, getting hot outside and lose time. Short term, less girlfriendfeeling though. But o so perfect bodies and face. Excellent service.
Most I payed in Bali kuta was 700. 000 for a full (well 4 hours.) night.
Streetwise full night in medan around 600. 000 total. But watch out what you pick up qualitywise, they may look good but are drugged most of the time.
Nowadays I prefer dating websites and if I do not have time or just want a professional treatment without hassle afterwards I go to the more "little" jakarta massage spa's which cost around 500. 000 for spa and 1. 5 hours of FS. Perhaps still not the cheapest choice timewise but pratical.
MurphyLove
05-26-12, 08:01
One mill, one and a half mill, two mill, three mill, before you know it you're talking serious money.
Am I too long out of the bar scene? Is that the sort of money that's being thrown around these days?
No wonder my never-ending supply of students from East Jakarta always insist on an extra fifty thou "buat ongkos" when I pay them my going rate of three hundred thou.
I used to think I was a big spender too, pelit buanget mister!Well, I have spent that and also paid 400, 600 to others during my earlier stays. It all depends on the girl and whether your johny has developed the hots for her in which case, brain stops working. On a more serious note, people like me visit jakarta for 3. 4 days and attend meetings all through the day. So its difficult to really spend time trying to hook up girls and have to do the best with whatever is easily available. Maybe at a higher cost because the window of time is so short. The downside of waiting too long to bring down the price is that you may end up missing the girl and going alone for the night cursing that you should have agreed to the price, which has happened to me. This is the first time I spent 3 mill or for that matter even 1. 5 mill in jakarta. I have always stayed within 700 to 1 mill which is more or less the going rate for LT of better looking girls in CJs.
I wish I could stay longer and develop my own supply of students from east jakarta but not everyone is as lucky as you.
Has somebody participated on one of the JakartaAfterDark-Tours recently? Can those tours be recommended?
Giotto
TheAfricanBoy
05-29-12, 12:49
Hi Giotto,
You may remember me as the Rev. Spent a week at your wonderful place about 2 years back from south africa.
I found JAD tour absolutely brilliant and as a new guy in jakarta would not have been able to negotiate my way without this help from JAD.
Not only does he know his way around he is fun to be with and has a broad understanding of all things worldly and exp of the city and its delights. Spend the money you won't be disappointed.
The rev
Has somebody participated on one of the JakartaAfterDark-Tours recently? Can those tours be recommended?
GiottoHe wants 200 hundred bucks to go around with you for 3 hours. In a public cab. With you paying the fare.
Primo Bolan
05-29-12, 15:14
Has somebody participated on one of the JakartaAfterDark-Tours recently? Can those tours be recommended?
GiottoGetting to lazy Giotto? Do some research. Yes JAD has been recommended by many here.
Getting to lazy Giotto? Do some research.Yep,
I am very lazy by nature. Did a search of JAD, found nothing. Search of JakartaAfterDark returned some results in 2011.
I thought there should be some more recent tour reports or recommendations. May be not.
Giotto
Primo Bolan
05-29-12, 16:30
Yep,
I am very lazy by nature. Did a search of JAD, found nothing. Search of JakartaAfterDark returned some results in 2011.
I thought there should be some more recent tour reports or recommendations. May be not.
GiottoFrom David_33
"I just spent a week and a half in Jakarta and used Jakarta After Dark's service. JAD was extremely knowledgeable and made my trip a much easier and enjoyable one. I would highly recommend his assistance."
13/5-12.
PB
From David_33
"I just spent a week and a half in Jakarta and used Jakarta After Dark's service. JAD was extremely knowledgeable and made my trip a much easier and enjoyable one. I would highly recommend his assistance."
13/5-12.
PBFound it. Classified ads section. Nothing here in the Jakarta thread?
Reports from the guy Jakarta After Dark 2 obviously deleted, links don't work. Was there an incident here in the Indonesia forum?
Giotto
He wants 200 hundred bucks to go around with you for 3 hours. In a public cab. With you paying the fare.Ahhh.
I begin to realize why he might have disappeared...the "Cheap-Charly" discussions. 50 USD for LT in Phnom Penh is - too much. I know. And please - DO NOT TIP!
Basically - I would NOT drive around in a taxi in Jakarta for 200 USD / 3 hours, even if YOU paid for the taxi fare.
Giotto
Hi Giotto,
You may remember me as the Rev. Spent a week at your wonderful place about 2 years back from south africa.
I found JAD tour absolutely brilliant and as a new guy in jakarta would not have been able to negotiate my way without this help from JAD.
Not only does he know his way around he is fun to be with and has a broad understanding of all things worldly and exp of the city and its delights. Spend the money you won't be disappointed.
The revTheAfricanBoy,
Thanks - that's the kind of reply I had hoped for.
Get back to the Lodge one day - that I can invite you for a beer.
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
Ahhh.
I begin to realize why he might have disappeared. The "Cheap-Charly" discussions. 50 USD for LT in Phnom Penh is. Too much. I know. And please. DO NOT TIP!
Basically. I would NOT drive around in a taxi in Jakarta for 200 USD / 3 hours, even if YOU paid for the taxi fare.Don't need to tell me. You need a chaperone for 200 bucks plus cab fare, with JAD you got one.
Member #4351
05-29-12, 20:03
I would NOT drive around in a taxi in Jakarta for 200 USD / 3 hours, even if YOU paid for the taxi fare.GiottoHe isn't around any more because Jackson had a problem with him posting his videos all over the forum. JAD has apologized and is awaiting reinstatement.
You pay once and from then on he helps you during your trip for nothing (at least that is what happened with me). I did invite him to eat with me a couple of times, but mostly in the executive lounge so it didn't cost me anything. For someone on his own its nice to have help with the money changing, Sim card purchasing and getting around in Jakarta which is for me, a completely confusing city. He also txt´d for me in Indonesian when I had a communication breakdown with a cutie.
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You pay once and from then on he helps you during your trip for nothing (at least that is what happened with me). I did invite him to eat with me a couple of times, but mostly in the executive lounge so it didn't cost me anything. For someone on his own its nice to have help with the money changing, Sim card purchasing and getting around in Jakarta which is for me, a completely confusing city. He also txt'the for me in Indonesian when I had a communication breakdown with a cutie.Thanks, David.
Looks like a good deal to me then.
I just realize that my 200 USD / 3 hours comment will most likely be misunderstood. I would not suffer Jakarta in a taxi for USD 200 / 3 hours - I would take much more.
Giotto
Master Diver II
05-30-12, 03:42
Has somebody participated on one of the JakartaAfterDark-Tours recently? Can those tours be recommended?
GiottoAs with most things in life, it's what you make of it that matters. I took JAD's tour some 8 years ago. We've been friends since then, and he's a really helpful guy. He can give you a crash course on Jakarta and it does give you a head start; In the long run, you do save money and he does help in more ways than one. We still meet up for coffees and meals when I'm in town, but I'm more than capable of finding my own ceweks nowadays.
MD II
He wants 200 hundred bucks to go around with you for 3 hours. In a public cab. With you paying the fare.Business must have changed then. He used to drive his own car. Anyway, his "aftersales" activities are great!
Traveler1234
05-30-12, 15:29
Business must have changed then. He used to drive his own car. Anyway, his "aftersales" activities are great!JAD now takes the bus. LOL.
I'll be in Jkt around mid July and looking forward to having a drink and stroll to a few hot spots with him.
He isn't around any more because Jackson had a problem with him posting his videos all over the forum. JAD has apologized and is awaiting reinstatement.I remember watching this videos last year. About places in Jakarta, if I remember correctly. Somebody walking with a hidden camera through various massage / KTV / SPA places. What was wrong with that? I really liked the videos, found them highly informative.
If I read all the positive statements, JAD was obviously adding some value for many of the readers of this forum. Why is such a member AWAITING REINSTATEMENT? Do we have so many members that add this kind of value to the forum?
Obviously yes.
Giotto (shaking his head in disbelieve)
Member #4351
05-30-12, 19:16
Why is such a member AWAITING REINSTATEMENT?The way I understand it, there wouldn't have been any problem if JAD had just posted on the Jakarta threads, but he posted all over the forum and Jackson got irked. Its too bad.
The way I understand it, there wouldn't have been any problem if JAD had just posted on the Jakarta threads, but he posted all over the forum and Jackson got irked. Its too bad.Understand.
Now - it would have been possible to leave the info at least there where it belongs. And send a message to JAD: "You are bad. You are so very bad. You are contributing TOO MUCH to my site! Don't do that! Only do that in the Indonesia forum. Got it???"
That would do the trick. But no. Not even in the Jakarta thread or the classified ads in Indonesia.
All ok for me. No smileys. A stupid auto-correction system, that permanently forces me to correct the auto-correction system. But useful contributions in the Indonesia forum are deleted. That's the way it goes. That's the future of the forum?
Thanks.
Giotto
That's the way it goes. That's the future of the forum?Thr future of the forum is no different than the present of the forum: to continue making profits for whoever is running it. That's the way it goes. Easy to lose sight of, huhn.
The way I understand it, there wouldn't have been any problem if JAD had just posted on the Jakarta threads, but he posted all over the forum and Jackson got irked. Its too bad.I think not everybody is aware about the contents of those particular rants of JAD.
Master Diver II
05-31-12, 10:57
I think not everybody is aware about the contents of those particular rants of JAD.Yes bro, myself included. It's a pity because he is a great guy. Incidentally, when are you coming back for a visit my mentor? I'll never forget the advice you gave to a friend of mine about "not doing anything". It has become a classic anecdote.
MD II
Tratnguyen1
05-31-12, 14:07
Gents,
I just visited Jakarta city 7days in May. 2012. During this period, I visited several hotel clubs and bath houses, MP. In the alley of Kartika. However, the outstanding place that was really impressed me the most was Classic terminal. Classic club is also at the ground floor of the hotel. However, this club are Not worth with over charge girls at 800, 000 rp Indo and 1. 6million rp. Import. The Classic terminal is located at the second floor of hotel. At the entrance door, you will be given a wrist band. All drinks and charges during you visit this club will use your wrist band number. Exception is the cost for girl only cash up front. The Classic terminal rooms are big and have enough tables to hold 500customers. Also, there are billiards halls with 9tables. The girls with differents color dress sitting on many sofas around the club rooms. I come to this club everynight and always see at least 100 girls, the busy night, I counted over 200 girls sitting, just amazing to me that I never see that many working girls anywhere in one room, Not even in Bangkok. There are many mamasans working and hunting customers around the club for her girls. Each mamasan works for her own group and dressing color identified her girls. However, all girls are charging at the same rate 270, 000rp. An hour or 400, 000rp. If you take 2girls. What's a bargain here. 45usd is all that cost for 2girls. I use the exchange rate 1usd=9100rp. The girl session was Not really outstanding, just basis FS. And BJ. For one thing. Indo. Girl will only do B. J. With cover. That was fine to me. There was Not any GFE. Even though the girl let me play beforehand. Girls always take me to shower and bath me through out before laying in the bed for actions. I also noticed that Indo. Girls are most smokers than other SEA. Nations. The only downside was cigarettes smoking fill up the air in this Classic terminal. The Tobacco companies do a great job here in Jakarta as over 80% of Indo. People smoking. People can light up the cigarette just about anywhere they want from the toilet to bars, restaurants, any place in hotels, shopping malls, . So, Jakarta is smokers heaven as people say and it is true. Back to the Classic terminal, the value is just awesome great. I also was enjoy the dancing girls on stage nightly and the live band starting from8pm til midnight. The Classic terminal is very honest with No padding bills, No hidden charge, No surprise cost added to your bill. You must go to the cashiers queu to clear the bill and receive a pass to get out the front door. I think this Clasic terminal is the Best club in all SEA. And totally unique.
Master Diver II
06-01-12, 01:20
Gents,
The girl session was Not really outstanding, just basis FS. And BJ. For one thing. Indo. Girl will only do B. J. With cover. That was fine to me. There was Not any GFE. Even though the girl let me play beforehand. Girls always take me to shower and bath me through out before laying in the bed for actions.I'm glad you enjoyed yourself overall bro, but I have to say that I'm surprised: I seldom have bad "sessions" in Jakarta and the last time I had a CBJ there was 2003. GFE is also in abundance here as a whole. Maybe your luck was out or you got complacent sitting in Classic. There is so much more to this city.
MD II
Tratnguyen1
06-01-12, 04:31
Gents,
Besides visiting Classic terminal which was a clear top of club in Jakarta city in term of value and quantity working girls here. I also managed to make a visit to Malio club and Spas with sauna room in Malioboro hotel. Again, this Malioboro hotel use the wrist band system just like Classic terminal. The club girl charges 800000rp. For local Indo. I had a session for 1 hour. The girl was little better GFE. Than Classic terminal but Not by much. So, I gave a tip 200, 000rp. Add to my wrist band tap. I must bring the attention to all of you to be aware that Malioboro is Not honest for all charges and padding the bill with a lot of hidden charges without any descriptions. If you need to do money changer in Malioboro then the rip off rate will be happen 1usd=8000rp in lieu of open market rate 1usd=9100rp. The other day, I went to Alexis bath house on the 7th. Floor of Alexis hotel. I chose a local Indo girl 1. 2million rp. The session was Not something to write about, very much a routine BJ. With cover and FS. With no GFE. At the end, I gave her a token 100000rp. Tip. I do think Alexis bath house is over rated and very expensive for girls here.
I'm glad you enjoyed yourself overall bro, but I have to say that I'm surprised: I seldom have bad "sessions" in Jakarta and the last time I had a CBJ there was 2003. GFE is also in abundance here as a whole. Maybe your luck was out or you got complacent sitting in Classic. There is so much more to this city.
MD III have had about 20 girls in Classic in the past year. 3 of them insisted on condom for the BJ. Those 3 got no tip at all from me and I warned them about that up front when they brought out the condom for the BJ. I've gotten GFE 2 times there. All the rest were not GFE. I find the service to be sub par. But the price is cheap as hell. An hour with a young girl even though she provides crap service is still a pretty good deal at under 300k. It's better than Hotel Travel. The rooms are nicer.
Yes bro, myself included. It's a pity because he is a great guy. Incidentally, when are you coming back for a visit my mentor? I'll never forget the advice you gave to a friend of mine about "not doing anything". It has become a classic anecdote.
MD IIPlease say hello to JAD and your friend when you see them. I'm settling down in Spain (Palma de Mallorca) now. Planning to stay for about a year. After that, Colombia again. But before Colombia, first I intend to pulang kampung.
Well, finally made it to Jakarta last week, and booked with Lady Panache.
I cannot say it was bad, but it was below my expectations. She is kind and talkative, has a good perspective, but while I was expecting a energetic lady, she didn't have initiative, and I had to drive the whole thing.
A nice person, but not te best experience. I will think about the other poular lady on the website for the next time.
Cheers.
Sauro
Member #4537
06-02-12, 14:16
I have had about 20 girls in Classic in the past year. 3 of them insisted on condom for the BJ. Those 3 got no tip at all from me and I warned them about that up front when they brought out the condom for the BJ. I've gotten GFE 2 times there. All the rest were not GFE. I find the service to be sub par. But the price is cheap as hell. An hour with a young girl even though she provides crap service is still a pretty good deal at under 300k. It's better than Hotel Travel. The rooms are nicer.I've tried way more than 20 girls at Classik, possibly at least 50, and 3/4 of them were pure GFE (DFK, hugging, BBBJ, optional bareback and so on). In fact, I got to say I've overall found more GFE here than Thailand and Singapore combined. Maybe it has to do with my age though. I don't know.
Tratnguyen1
06-02-12, 19:00
I've tried way more than 20 girls at Classik, possibly at least 50, and 3/4 of them were pure GFE (DFK, hugging, BBBJ, optional bareback and so on). In fact, I got to say I've overall found more GFE here than Thailand and Singapore combined. Maybe it has to do with my age though. I don't know.Gents,
If you can have GFE in Classic terminal than It is great for you and more for your power in Jakarta. I found out, all girls that I have been with were just more standard FS. And all BJ. With cover. That was okay to me and I still think at the cost of 270000rp. An hour that is great bargain in everywhere SEA. With quantity of almost 200 girls nightly, there are a lot of above average looking Indo. Girls working. However, I alway have more GFE. In Bangkok because I know the landscape in BKK much better and frequently go to the MP. That people know me quite well.
Maybe it has to do with my age though. I don't know.I thought the problem was to do with their age, not the customers. Most of them just barely squeeze past the 18+ line. Either they don't know what to do with their assets yet or they are used to men lusting after their young flesh without having to do much. Give me the 25+ group in Gajah Mada / Mangga Besar gangs any day.
Can someone please guide me where to buy at Jakarta and the present costs.
Thanks
Cooze Hound
06-05-12, 06:31
Can someone please guide me where to buy at Jakarta and the present costs.
ThanksThis has been covered many times but basically any Pharmacy (Apotek) will sell you the original product. If you want a generic then keep an eye out for stalls that say "Obat Perkasa" or "Obat Macho" or Pil Biru. If you are in Kota, those guys are around outside the mongering places.
If you want it delivered, PM me and I will pass you on a number and hey presto a delivery guy will discreetly drop it off to you and you pay him.
Original Viagra is around 480,000 IDR for 4 tablets but delivery of a bottle of 10 50mg Cialis is around 250,000 IDR
Cheers
Potentie45
06-05-12, 11:54
This has been covered many times but basically any Pharmacy (Apotek) will sell you the original product. If you want a generic then keep an eye out for stalls that say "Obat Perkasa" or "Obat Macho" or Pil Biru. If you are in Kota, those guys are around outside the mongering places.
If you want it delivered, PM me and I will pass you on a number and hey presto a delivery guy will discreetly drop it off to you and you pay him.
Original Viagra is around 480, 000 IDR for 4 tablets but delivery of a bottle of 10 50mg Cialis is around 250, 000 IDR.
CheersBe careful with generic medicine in Indonesia, especially bought at the street.
You don't have any control on quality or content.
I saw on television an undercover program that there is a widespread business that people re use bottles. They clean it and fill it with an inferior liquid and sell it like the original brand. Buyers got terrible sick. The so called business men got perhaps 5, 000 Rp per bottle profit; but that is enough profit and reason for them to cheat, even people almost die. And they know it!
My advice: buy you support act at a decent apotek.
Thanks mate. I have bought it before at Mall Amba but was not sure of the originality.
This has been covered many times but basically any Pharmacy (Apotek) will sell you the original product. If you want a generic then keep an eye out for stalls that say "Obat Perkasa" or "Obat Macho" or Pil Biru. If you are in Kota, those guys are around outside the mongering places.
If you want it delivered, PM me and I will pass you on a number and hey presto a delivery guy will discreetly drop it off to you and you pay him.
Original Viagra is around 480, 000 IDR for 4 tablets but delivery of a bottle of 10 50mg Cialis is around 250, 000 IDR.
Cheers
He wants 200 hundred bucks to go around with you for 3 hours. In a public cab. With you paying the fare.While I believe he advertises something like 3 hours, he spent 5 hours chaperoning me around, and probably would have gone 8 or 9 hours if I hadn't conked out. I believe he treats his other customers similarly.
While I believe he advertises something like 3 hours, he spent 5 hours chaperoning me around, and probably would have gone 8 or 9 hours if I hadn't conked out. I believe he treats his other customers similarly.5 hours? How many shags did you get in during those 5 hours?
Hi,
Will be in Jakarta for the Month of July.
Wanted to check if its going to be active or things will have slowed down because of Ramadan during that time. Sorry if this has been discussed before. Cudnt find the details though.
Thanks
Irish Mongrel
06-07-12, 10:27
Ah hell, this has been a long time coming, but it is also a long time over due. Been a while since I posted anything, but I may as well cover in general terms my thoughts on the night life around Jakarta. I guess you can split the 'nightlife' that I've visited in Jakarta into 3 groups – Business Hotels, the Blok, a few bars and the 'Bordellos'!
I tend to be in Jakarta for one week, about once a month on average, so get to play around quite a bit and do enjoy the hell out of the place. The only thing I'll mention about money is I generally tend to pay between 500, 000 to 1, 000, 000 and it is all based on the girl's performance. I've paid 1 mill to girls from the blok, and also thrown girls from CJ's or BAT's out of my room with 500K in their hand and not much of a smile! I find Indonesia girls to be some of the best and some of the worst in Asia. But certainly I have a hell of a lot more fun here than in Thailand or Vietnam, so I would classify Indonesia as my favorite playground.
Hotel Bars
I stay in the Mulia when I am in town (where CJ's is located) , but if I do go to one of the two big hotel bars it tends to be BAT's in the Shang-Ri-La. That is probably going to be exclusively BAT's from now on since CJ's has put their drink prices up again – it will soon be more expensive to have a beer than shag a girl. Both bars have pretty good bands and loads of girls. BAT's is smaller but CJ's is generally dark and it's hard to see what the girls really look like unless you're standing in front of them. I feel the set-up in BAT's is also a lot better for interacting with the girls, quicker to circulate around, and a lot easier to see what's available. As for choice, hard to say, even fat girls get laid – in my view BAT's has the better looking girls, I've never walked out of their empty handed – can't say the same about CJ's. Could be the factor that if you take a girl from BAT's to the Mulia she's not in a rush to get back to the bar, where as take a girl out of CJ's too early and immediately she starts factoring in the possibility of a two in one, night.
One other bar I'll put in here is the Satu Lagi Bar in the Hotel Kristal. This is out in the Cilandak area. There are girls in the bar, have only stayed there once, so can't really comment apart from – go look elsewhere, there's better pickings. Although the girl I did pick had the biggest set of tits I have ever had my hands on in Indonesia!
Blok M – 'The Blok'
Love this place, it's got everything, even a new layer off tarmac on the road, so it's not that bad looking. There are probably around 6 bars on the Blok which have girls in them, but I tend to rotate around 3 – D's Place, My Bar and Top Gun. The Blok has everything from 18 yo SYT up to 81 yo hopefuls the whole gambit of humanity and generally a good range of good looking girls in amongst the cannon fodder. My Bar is my favorite, but doesn't get going till late, but the good thing about it – it's the last to close (4am) so you can party thru the night if you wish. D's place has got dancers on the stage – and they can certainly get it on (or off) as the night goes on, there's the "VIP" room down the back and all-in-all has a good atmosphere with a good assortment of freelancers roaming in and out. Top Gun, well it's another institution bar, with an OK live band and lots of girls. You find the girls will rotate from one bar to the next – especially the good looking ones, so I tend to sit in D's for a while, watch the dancers, chat to the girls there and wait to see what walks through the door. By 11pm, if nothings caught my eye I'll head to My Bar. One point of note – girls from BAT's and CJ's may pop up in My Bar after 1am, that's when the hotel bar's start to wind down, so you can pick them up for half price there. If you want to totally escape the rat race – head to the Sportsman's at the top of the street – no working girls allowed and got good food – I suspect I'll be watching some of Euro 2012 in their prior to heading out for fun.
Other Bars
There's a lot of bars out in the Kemang area that do have a mixture of working and relationship looking girls, mostly hangouts for the expats living and working in Jakarta – Eastern Promise, Murphy's, Star Bar, De Hooi, V-Door. You may find one or two girls on the game in there, but mostly they are girlfriends or looking to be girlfriends!
Aphrodite is another mixture bar. A few of the good looking girls I know who hang around the blok will also go there – only been once.
Red Square – I've heard so much about Red Square, but it's never lived up to its promise. I have a feeling this is a Friday / Saturday night bar. Been there till closing on a couple of Thursday nights and would have been very lonely if I hadn't taken a few friends with me. There were some working girls there but the place just never got started the nights I've been there. Again, as per Aphrodite's, I know a lot of girls who bum around the Blok also go to here – but I get the feeling that's when they want to have a 'girls' night out – but are they ever not working?
Bordellos / Spa's.
Melawi Hotel – 5+1 – 6th Floor.
Walk in the front door of the hotel, go straight to the lift in front of you and head to the 6th Floor – you'll come across a long winding corridor at the end of which is a 'reception desk', small bar, and some woman of varying quality. Only been here twice – first time was paid for by somebody else, the second time I walked in, took one look at the slim pickings and left. The girl I picked the first time was up for everything – and before anybody asks, that does mean all three holes, but spoke little English.
The Alexis.
To experience the Alexis fully you need to go with somebody who is paying the bill. There is a walk up spa where you can grab a girl from the line up. But the Karaoke rooms with naked dancing girls, spa bath and all the rest have to be the best night out available in Jakarta – although I did find the girls pretty mechanical. Basically you rock up with a bunch of friends (book the room well ahead) , order bottles of booze, pick as many girls from the line ups that keep coming into the room until you've got enough – then party. You've got rooms with a spa pool where you can have fun, you can get a room in the hotel, or you can just do whatever you want as long as you're not shy. The girls are also available to take away at the end of the night. Back to my first sentence, this can clock up a lot of dollars very, very quickly – in the thousands – but, as I said, if somebody else has deep pockets, it's certainly an experience. I woke up the following morning with two metronomes beside me – yes you could fuck, but are you finished yet – so if you're completely into GFE, don't even bother for the Spa.
A couple of other comments. I have had fun, I have yet to have issues with any off the girls taking stuff from my hotel room or any other crazy things, and I have left the hotel early in the morning and told girls they can leave when they want (never on the first night with me) – maybe I'm just good at picking honest girls. I do have a number of regular girls now who take care of my every whim, but I always leave my last night completely free to have some variety.
Beware the girls that run in swarms, especially in BAT's – you could end up buying drinks for 3 or 4 girls and be the owner of a rather hefty bar bill. If you want to become everybody's friend, buy a bottle, if you want to become BFF – buy two!
Beware the taxi's in the Blok – the ones out front of the bars will charge way over the going rate. If you're leaving before midnight go up to the taxi rank at the top of the road and get a metered cab.
And finally – Ramadan, we're getting there, the questions will start to arise, so here's my experience. The main days of no fun are the first two days of Ramadan, the day two weeks in (don't ask me why) and the first day of Eid. Most of the main girl friendly bars are closed (The Blok, CJ's, Red Square etc.). BATS is the only one that I know is open, but all the lights are on and there is only some soft music playing in the back ground. There are a limited number of girls, not a lot, but there are some, so if you are in need of some fun, it can be found.
Aloha,
Wow, I've been so busy here that I haven't checked the Jarkarata section out. Mostly spend time in the Hawaii section. I was in Jakarta last October and spent three days with JAD. I had a blast. He can save you a lot of headaches and wasted time figuring out where to go and what places has the best girls. Like anywhere else,"local" knowledge is so valuable. I'm not sure what he's out for, but for anyone that wants a great time, he's the real deal. Next time through I'll be looking him up again. If you guys ever come through here, check out the Hawaii section Honolulu. Its nothing like Jakarta but hey. When you have lemons, make lemonadge.
Happy mongering, OM
Hungry Expat
06-08-12, 12:58
Î have been to Hotel Travel last week.
I still paid the old price of 300. 000 Rupiah and not more.
But I also arrived already at 3:30 pm so it was still empty.
This time I have had one of my best times.
I entered and sit down at a table. The first Mama I send back because
I wanted to check the selection of girls first. Then another Mama came.
With a very nice young girl. She immediatly smiled at me and I could not resist.
She is wearing a blue skirt and her name was Nina or so.
But she will only work one more week and then stop and go home.
She was very good and it was one of my best GFE experiences with a working girl.
Also she is only 22 years old and she is really not older then that she has a lot of experience.
Especially she knows how to use her tongue and get you horney (Lick my body and a very good BBJ without any hand).
I convinced her after the first round to a second round for an extra tip.
It is a pity that she will stop working because I would even book her for a whole night.
And take her back to my room.
I do not know anything about a price increase at Travel.
Maybe because I was too early there or because they liked me.
Member #4410
06-08-12, 14:23
Was in Jakarta again and decided to visit Blok M' s bars.
Top Gun was quiet so crossed the street and went to D' s.
It wasn't long before one of the stage dancers was introduced to me as being a new girl and she was happy to take me to the VIP room. The rooom has been remodelled slightly, with an extra 'private' corner.
The girl (forgot her name, but she has her hair cut in a bob) quickly stripped and started to open my pants. To my surprise she immediately asked if I wanted 'pompom'. This was still a no-no last year. I was tempted by her very attractive bum, but politely declined and chose the BBBJ, which she performed very good after some DFK and me fingering her pussy. After I came in her mouth she cleaned my parts and I closed up and paid her 400, 000.
I then went back to the bar and after a few beers returned to my hotel for a well-earned sleep.
I will be in Jakarta again in 10 days and seeing how attractive her body was I will certainly re-consider the 'pompom' offer.
Regards,
Ko
Member #4410
06-08-12, 14:43
I also invited my good friend Wulan to my room to celebrate my return to Jakarta after more than 6 months (!). Still as delightful as ever. She mentioned that she had a new 'teman' in Maribaya and suggested that I come the next day for a threesome.
I always (well, usually) follow good advice so next afternoon I took the familiar elevator to the 6th floor. Business was quiet, with about 20 girls and only one other customer. Wulan introduced her friend Dila to me. Slim and fairly new to the game; only 2 months. Without much ado we went to the room and had a good time. Dila may be new, but her BBBJ is just as good as Wulan's and her teamwork is also excellent.
She is still fairly young so it took some additional oil (and some extra time, pelan-pelan) for me to enter her. After that, when I was in up to the hilt, she provided a very enjoyable experience and an excellent orgasm. Niice and tight and she said she liked it too (according to Wulan).
Pictures will come later, when I am on a less slow connection.
After we had showered Wulan told me that our favourite girl Shella has quit and has gone 'pulang kampung'. Probably made enough money to settle down. All the best to her (bangs head against the wall and howls to the moon).
B. T. W. : I am now on a wifi connection in Jakarta and don't seem to have any problem connecting to ISG. Already posted another report on D's. No blocking AFAIKT.
Regards,
Ko
Had an interesting 3 days in Block M. First night stopped by Top Gun and saw several very good looking ladies who were dancing on the floor. I noticed that most of the clientele are Bule (white) and the girls are quite focused on hooking them. I tried to talk to a couple of the cutest girls but all I was got polite smiles but no bites. I have dark skin but noticed this cold shoulder also happened to some Chinese looking guys. Went home alone.
The next night I decided to be more focused and approached one of the pretty girls I tried the night before. Offered her a drink which led to a few rounds and went back to my hotel with her. I must say, it was a fantastic GFE experience with lots of cuddling, smooching and several rounds that night and the next morning. One time in the morning we just chatting and she gave me a slow sexy BBBJ and CIM. I came back to Top Gun that night and she ran up to me and I bought her friends a couple of rounds and some food. Soon I had three girls all over me. I went back with my first friend again and had another wonderful night. I must say, can't wait to get back there again. Indonesians are really quite sexy.
I knew that last year TC (Today Country) at lokasari closed and the place was undergoing repairs. Does anyone know whether this has been re-opened or whether TC has re-surfaced anywhere else. Are there any other places like TC where they had very young once.
Thanks
Soon I had three girls all over me.Uh oh. That's a sign that you overpaid. These girls talk. They know exactly how much you paid the last girl.
After we had showered Wulan told me that our favourite girl Shella has quit and has gone 'pulang kampung'. Probably made enough money to settle down. All the best to her (bangs head against the wall and howls to the moon).My guess is she has a "sponsor" now. She traveled to KL for a formula 1 event with some guy and after that her status on BBM was frequently "I love you darling" or "I miss you honey", always in English. In all my years knowing her, I never saw her put a status like that before. It wasn't long after that, she quit the 6th.
You had your chance...
Uh oh. That's a sign that you overpaid. These girls talk. They know exactly how much you paid the last girl.I think it was cause I did not skimp on the drinks and food at my table. The bar bill was 500, 000. Hell, I was having fun, dancing and eating so that's fine with me for about 3 hours of entertainment. Also, I must I like the fun loving GFE style which I find better than in other parts of South East Asia.
Member #4410
06-09-12, 13:28
My guess is she has a "sponsor" now. She traveled to KL for a formula 1 event with some guy and after that her status on BBM was frequently "I love you darling" or "I miss you honey", always in English. In all my years knowing her, I never saw her put a status like that before. It wasn't long after that, she quit the 6th.
You had your chance.My main regret is that another good girl left Maribaya. Some good ones left, though, and occasionally a little gem arrives. Will try Dila a few more times. First impression was favourable.
Regards,
Ko
Member #4410
06-11-12, 09:51
My guess is she has a "sponsor" now. She traveled to KL for a formula 1 event with some guy and after that her status on BBM was frequently "I love you darling" or "I miss you honey", always in English. In all my years knowing her, I never saw her put a status like that before. It wasn't long after that, she quit the 6th.
You had your chance.She is still using her original Indonesian hp number, though. When I sent her an sms for confirmation of the end of her presence in Jakarta she answered within a few minutes. Perhaps she's keeping it as a fall-back option. Her phone must contain a lot of contacts.
But whatever the case, I wish her well.
Regards,
Ko
I'll be making my first trip to Jakarta last week of Jun. I've been RTFF the forum and doing my research.
One of my planned stops will be to partake the action at CJ's. I have seen a number of posts regarding prices and pricing strategy. Some of this is a little dated now. I would request a couple of seniors provide some informed comment on how or if prices haved moved at places like CJ's (or BATs).
Inflation in Indo seems to be about 5 to 10% a year. Is this reflected in the Jakarta P4P markets.
Many thanks in advance. I'll be sure to post a report on any notable experiences.
5 hours? How many shags did you get in during those 5 hours?Three shags, two women, four clubs. The shags were perfunctory. Going to places I'd never been before was what really made it worthwhile for me. Before meeting JAD, I was familiar with Blok M, bars in the downtown hotels, and some lower-to-medium end places in Kota. The places we went, west Jakarta, Alexis, and Malioboro were totally new to me, and I would have never seen them without Jakarta After Dark. His web site is http://www.jakartaafterdark.com/. I hope it's O.K. to put that here -- it's not a competitor to ISG.
Traveler1234
06-16-12, 18:14
I'll be making my first trip to Jakarta last week of Jun. I've been RTFF the forum and doing my research.No changes in pricing. If you've RTTF, then you should be familiar with the 'street prices'. CJ and Bats girls will all start at satu juta and up to you to negotiate down to a reasonable level.
Member #4537
06-16-12, 23:01
One of my planned stops will be to partake the action at CJ's. I have seen a number of posts regarding prices and pricing strategy. Some of this is a little dated now. I would request a couple of seniors provide some informed comment on how or if prices haved moved at places like CJ's (or BATs).Rampant inflation aside, the girls in CJ's first like to first see how much they can get from you. Do you look like the typical 2-week millionaire, are a businessman or look Japanese and staying in the hotel, or are you already an experienced Expat living in the city. Your dress sense and ability to speak Bahasa gives that away. I was able to get 800k from all the girls who I picked up there these past couple months (for 1-3 hrs. Short-Time) , although one time there was a real Indo-Chinese stunner I could not resist who not budge below 1. 5 juta for Short-Time (I have seen her go countless of times with other customers, so I understand why she would not budge even when it was near 3:00AM, the closing time).
Remember, most of these girls come all the way from South Jakarta and it would be a waste of their 100k or so plus all the drinks and transportation costs to go home empty handed. And there is definitely more girls than guys whenever I am at CJ's. Buyer's market.
Hi all!
I'm cross posting from the Bali section cause I think there's more traffic here, and this is a non-location specific question. I'm hoping someone on here has experience with this sort of thing.
So, I met a young lady the other day who wants to "borrow money" from me. I know I know. I wasn't at all surprised, she had "part-time freelancer" written all over her and I believe this is how it's supposed to go. Basically I'd look at it as a gift, in return for sex. Preferably regular sex. The amount she's asking for is about the same as a LT session (in Bali, anyway) , and I'm guessing I'd probably get a certain number of "freebies" in return. Now, I've always avoided this kind of thing in the past, but if the arrangement were to work out as I imagine it might, it would be worth it. I've passed up opportunities like this in the past, and regretted it, plus I'm between girlfriends, tired of mediocre ST sessions in sanur, and too busy to haunt the nightclubs at 1am looking for a hit-or-miss experience. When I've had private (but more up front, pay-as-you-go) arrangements with girls, it's nice. One quick text message and some cute 20ish girl rides her motorbike over to your place for an afternoon sesh. No late night hunting necessary, and she's only screwing so many people (maybe only 1 or 3 other dudes, or even none) so the sex can be a little more enthusiastic.
So anyway I know that this kind of deal ("lend" a girl some rp and she becomes your part time mistress) is Something That Is Done here in indonesia. But I've never done it myself and would be curious to hear the ins and outs from someone who has. Any advice? Say I "lend" her enough money for an LT session, but I don't have time for LT right then and there, and would really prefer to have her come over a few times for afternoon ST's instead. How likely is it that I ever see this girl again after she's got my money? Also, how to word the negotiations: indonesians never speak directly about anything, and this girl is fresh off the boat from flores. I suppose I could Just say "I'll lend you this money, if you'll have sex with me, let's say 3 or 4 times for this 1j" but I feel like there must be a smoother, more indonesian euphemistic way to say this. Like "taxi money" but different (she already has her own bike)
I live in Indonesia by the way, so this could be ongoing (both in good ways and bad)
Hi all!
I'm cross posting from the Bali section cause I think there's more traffic here, and this is a non-location specific question. I'm hoping someone on here has experience with this sort of thing.
So, I met a young lady the other day who wants to "borrow money" from me. I know I know. I wasn't at all surprised, she had "part-time freelancer" written all over her and I believe this is how it's supposed to go. Basically I'd look at it as a gift, in return for sex. Preferably regular sex. The amount she's asking for is about the same as a LT session (in Bali, anyway) , and I'm guessing I'd probably get a certain number of "freebies" in return. Now, I've always avoided this kind of thing in the past, but if the arrangement were to work out as I imagine it might, it would be worth it. I've passed up opportunities like this in the past, and regretted it, plus I'm between girlfriends, tired of mediocre ST sessions in sanur, and too busy to haunt the nightclubs at 1am looking for a hit-or-miss experience. When I've had private (but more up front, pay-as-you-go) arrangements with girls, it's nice. One quick text message and some cute 20ish girl rides her motorbike over to your place for an afternoon sesh. No late night hunting necessary, and she's only screwing so many people (maybe only 1 or 3 other dudes, or even none) so the sex can be a little more enthusiastic.
So anyway I know that this kind of deal ("lend" a girl some rp and she becomes your part time mistress) is Something That Is Done here in indonesia. But I've never done it myself and would be curious to hear the ins and outs from someone who has. Any advice? Say I "lend" her enough money for an LT session, but I don't have time for LT right then and there, and would really prefer to have her come over a few times for afternoon ST's instead. How likely is it that I ever see this girl again after she's got my money? Also, how to word the negotiations: indonesians never speak directly about anything, and this girl is fresh off the boat from flores. I suppose I could Just say "I'll lend you this money, if you'll have sex with me, let's say 3 or 4 times for this 1j" but I feel like there must be a smoother, more indonesian euphemistic way to say this. Like "taxi money" but different (she already has her own bike)
I live in Indonesia by the way, so this could be ongoing (both in good ways and bad) I've never done it, but what comes into my mind is this: Tell her it's your pocketmoney, to be used several times when you're feeling lonely and need company of a girl. And ask her, when you lend her the money, would she be so kind as to accompany you when you need it?
BTW, how can you be sure that after receiving the money, she will not disappear?
Offshore Swell
06-17-12, 12:29
[QUOTE=DJ Monger; 1293946]Hi all!
I'm cross posting from the Bali section cause I think there's more traffic here, and this is a non-location specific question. I'm hoping someone on here has experience with this sort of thing.
So, I met a young lady the other day who wants to "borrow money" from me. I know I know. I wasn't at all surprised, she had "part-time freelancer" written all over her and I believe this is how it's supposed to go. Basically I'd look at it as a gift, in return for sex. Preferably regular sex. The amount she's asking for is about the same as a LT session (in Bali, anyway) , and I'm guessing I'd probably get a certain number of "freebies" in return. Now, I've always avoided this kind of thing in the past, but if the arrangement were to work out as I imagine it might, it would be worth it. I've passed up opportunities like this in the past, and regretted it.
DJ Monger.
"I would say follow your gut feeling. To ask a bunch of morally compromised mongers such as we all are may not be that wise as the advice coming back may be right across the spectrum.
If you like her why not, to show somebody some trust can be tremendously rewarding. Not always, but that is the human nature part of the deal that you signed up for when you went mongering in the first place. The key quote to remember here is this."with expectation comes disappointment"
OS
Hi all!
I'm cross posting from the Bali section cause I think there's more traffic here, and this is a non-location specific question. I'm hoping someone on here has experience with this sort of thing.
So, I met a young lady the other day who wants to "borrow money" from me. I know I know. I wasn't at all surprised, she had "part-time freelancer" written all over her and I believe this is how it's supposed to go. Basically I'd look at it as a gift, in return for sex. Preferably regular sex. The amount she's asking for is about the same as a LT session (in Bali, anyway) , and I'm guessing I'd probably get a certain number of "freebies" in return. Now, I've always avoided this kind of thing in the past, but if the arrangement were to work out as I imagine it might, it would be worth it. I've passed up opportunities like this in the past, and regretted it, plus I'm between girlfriends, tired of mediocre ST sessions in sanur, and too busy to haunt the nightclubs at 1am looking for a hit-or-miss experience. When I've had private (but more up front, pay-as-you-go) arrangements with girls, it's nice. One quick text message and some cute 20ish girl rides her motorbike over to your place for an afternoon sesh. No late night hunting necessary, and she's only screwing so many people (maybe only 1 or 3 other dudes, or even none) so the sex can be a little more enthusiastic.
So anyway I know that this kind of deal ("lend" a girl some rp and she becomes your part time mistress) is Something That Is Done here in indonesia. But I've never done it myself and would be curious to hear the ins and outs from someone who has. Any advice? Say I "lend" her enough money for an LT session, but I don't have time for LT right then and there, and would really prefer to have her come over a few times for afternoon ST's instead. How likely is it that I ever see this girl again after she's got my money? Also, how to word the negotiations: indonesians never speak directly about anything, and this girl is fresh off the boat from flores. I suppose I could Just say "I'll lend you this money, if you'll have sex with me, let's say 3 or 4 times for this 1j" but I feel like there must be a smoother, more indonesian euphemistic way to say this. Like "taxi money" but different (she already has her own bike)
I live in Indonesia by the way, so this could be ongoing (both in good ways and bad) DJ,
While I concur with Offshore Swell, my own experience is that this is the first of many such requests. They can get bigger, bolder and more frequent, depending on how you respond.
Good luck with her. Let us know how it turns out.
Lucky21
BTW, how can you be sure that after receiving the money, she will not disappear?Probably not. If the guy "lends" money once, he might do it again, so he's worth cultivating. Personally, I'd say go for it. You said it was only the same as an LT session. Well, at least get a shag when you hand the money over, and everything else is profit. My guess is the gratitude will fade pretty fast unless it's followed up with more cash, but make hay while the sun shines.
Master Diver II
06-19-12, 02:23
So anyway I know that this kind of deal ("lend" a girl some rp and she becomes your part time mistress) is Something That Is Done here in indonesia. But I've never done it myself and would be curious to hear the ins and outs from someone who has. Any advice? Say I "lend" her enough money for an LT session, but I don't have time for LT right then and there, and would really prefer to have her come over a few times for afternoon ST's instead. How likely is it that I ever see this girl again after she's got my money? Also, how to word the negotiations: indonesians never speak directly about anything, and this girl is fresh off the boat from flores. I suppose I could Just say "I'll lend you this money, if you'll have sex with me, let's say 3 or 4 times for this 1j" but I feel like there must be a smoother, more indonesian euphemistic way to say this. Like "taxi money" but different (she already has her own bike)
I live in Indonesia by the way, so this could be ongoing (both in good ways and bad) I think Menteng has the right approach - then again, he is very smooth:). You need to make a judgement on the girl and what your gut feel is though. Yes, this kind of arrangement can work out quite economically, depending on how well you manage it. It can also pay dividends in other respects. I'm a big fan of GFE and prefer it over PSE; on the other hand, if you get both GFE and PSE in one package... ;) :D
MD II
I wonder if any of you know of any establishments like spa`s or bordellos here in Jakarta that have girls who offer anal sex, and that you might be able to request this from the management / mamasan. In my experience I only had a few girls who agreed on anal sex in 2012, a couple of girls in-house girls at the stadium bordello and a few freelancers at the bars in blokm. However there should be establishments which can offer services like this, anyone has any light to shed on anal sex in Jakarta?Sophie. Groundfloor. Took it gladly doggy style. A bit plump but in a sexy way. 700k. I did not ask in advance or before the act, just on the spot inspiration. Very unusual for me.
Visited TP and MB last night, a few ladies in TP that were top quality but didn't approach any of them. MB has changed a bit inside, quite a different look, for those of you who know this fine, but I haven't been there in a while. Not very many girls at MB, guess it was a slow night. Did see a few cute girls that seemed to be distant. Did end up with a karaoke girl who wanted 1M for short time, however got her to 400k for ST. Can't figure out the prices for these girls, definitely don't think any of them is worth 1M. Will return on the w / e so maybe a bit more girls will lower the prices.
Greetings. I am planning to visit CJ later next month. Can any brothers here share some advice on the ladies at CJ? How much do they charge for ST? Any additional tips to share is highly appreciated. Thank you.
Member #4385
06-21-12, 12:43
Greetings. I am planning to visit CJ later next month. Can any brothers here share some advice on the ladies at CJ? How much do they charge for ST? Any additional tips to share is highly appreciated. Thank you.I think 700. 000idr to 1. 000. 000idr is the going rate, but some might try to ask for higher. Don't give in to easy for higher rates, since this will cause inflation.
I have picked up many times from BATS and CJ's. The max is 1 million for over night (+ taxi money depending on performance) and minimum is 500, 000 (for ST).
As many punters have said before, the fixing price also depends (even if slightly) on how much the girl likes you.
All the best!
McM.
QUOTE=ZapMan; 1293561]I'll be making my first trip to Jakarta last week of Jun. I've been RTFF the forum and doing my research.
One of my planned stops will be to partake the action at CJ's. I have seen a number of posts regarding prices and pricing strategy. Some of this is a little dated now. I would request a couple of seniors provide some informed comment on how or if prices haved moved at places like CJ's (or BATs).
Inflation in Indo seems to be about 5 to 10% a year. Is this reflected in the Jakarta P4P markets.
Many thanks in advance. I'll be sure to post a report on any notable experiences.[/QUOTE]
Double Shooter
06-21-12, 20:13
I have picked up many times from BATS and CJ's. The max is 1 million for over night (+ taxi money depending on performance) and minimum is 500, 000 (for ST).
As many punters have said before, the fixing price also depends (even if slightly) on how much the girl likes you.
All the best!
McM.
I'll be making my first trip to Jakarta last week of Jun. I've been RTFF the forum and doing my research.
One of my planned stops will be to partake the action at CJ's. I have seen a number of posts regarding prices and pricing strategy. Some of this is a little dated now. I would request a couple of seniors provide some informed comment on how or if prices haved moved at places like CJ's (or BATs).
Inflation in Indo seems to be about 5 to 10% a year. Is this reflected in the Jakarta P4P markets.
Many thanks in advance. I'll be sure to post a report on any notable experiences.Interesting to hear McMaiden's voice of experience. I assume that these prices are after negotiation in the bar itself? One wonders how the girls manage to make a living, given that:
1) They typically don't score a John every night.
2) It costs IDR150K to enter CJ's.
3) Taxi costs may be high of she lives far away.
4) Cost of dress, make up etc to be able to enter an upscale hotel bar.
The Shooter paid $130 for a night of debauchery with a CJ lass on his last visit, overpaying by about $26, but he has no regrets. FR below.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1267247&viewfull=1#post1267247
Irish Mongrel
06-22-12, 03:11
Interesting to hear McMaiden's voice of experience. I assume that these prices are after negotiation in the bar itself? One wonders how the girls manage to make a living, given that:
1) They typically don't score a John every night.
2) It costs IDR150K to enter CJ's.
3) Taxi costs may be high of she lives far away.
4) Cost of dress, make up etc to be able to enter an upscale hotel bar.
The Shooter paid $130 for a night of debauchery with a CJ lass on his last visit, overpaying by about $26, but he has no regrets. FR below.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1267247&viewfull=1#post1267247Man, you overpaid, I'm sure you'll survive. I'd put the cost of CJ's at anywhere between 1M & 2M (you got to be kidding) for a LT. I basically stick to around the 1M$ mark for high end hotel girls for LT. Some may still say I overpay, but 10 or 15$ is not going to break the bank. Crap I'll have to drink one less beer next time. They'll try for the high prices for a ST if you're staying in the hotel and pick them up early. Hell they may get somebody who says yes and they have a chance for two in one night. Bonus. As you say, it's expensive for them to get in, expensive for me to drink in, and when all is said and done you can get girls just as good looking elsewhere in town for a lot less. I did pay 500k for an ST once, but that was as I kicked the girl out the door after 30 mins of crap service, or maybe it was just false advertising! That put the first table off limits for a while. Maybe that's the other reason I went elsewhere. CJ's is my least favorite place in Jakarta when all is said and done, but do need to go back every now and again just to confirm, and when I do I've normally got a girl in tow. Hey a little bonus for her as she has possibly never been there before.
I think 700. 000idr to 1. 000. 000idr is the going rate, but some might try to ask for higher. Don't give in to easy for higher rates, since this will cause inflation.Thank you Bro Wamena and for the info. And Bro. McM for sharing your experience.
Well, hopefully can get a night of excitement.
Cheers and thanks again.
Master Diver II
06-22-12, 07:50
Interesting to hear McMaiden's voice of experience. I assume that these prices are after negotiation in the bar itself? One wonders how the girls manage to make a living, given that:
1) They typically don't score a John every night.
2) It costs IDR150K to enter CJ's.
3) Taxi costs may be high of she lives far away.
4) Cost of dress, make up etc to be able to enter an upscale hotel bar.
The Shooter paid $130 for a night of debauchery with a CJ lass on his last visit, overpaying by about $26, but he has no regrets. FR below.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1267247&viewfull=1#post1267247That's why a lot of them like to target at least one hotel guest, sometimes more before scoring an LT. I once sat with a couple of friends (over drinks) and watched one girl run through three Mulia Hotel guests (I assumed they were because she was back within 45 minutes each time. And in one case back out within 5 minutes of returning) within the one evening. That's also why ladies night (Wednesdays) is pretty packed. I even know a couple of normal girls (non-P4P) who come in for the free entrance, drinks and the band.
MD II
[QUOTE=Double Shooter; 1295797]Interesting to hear McMaiden's voice of experience. I assume that these prices are after negotiation in the bar itself? One wonders how the girls manage to make a living, given that:/QUOTE]I have read with interest, the Shooter's soujorns across Jakarta. Well written prose, I must say.
I am not the price police and I don't care what anyone paid though I do like to pay depending on the perceived value (might be right or wrong after the deed is done). I don't like to overpay and will never under-pay since its the girl's livelihood.
If its LT, I do pay some taxi-money. The runners can ask somebody else for their taxi-money. I girl I paid a million was with me from around 11 till next morn so highly unlikely that it was the second round for her.
Even if she can make IDR400, 000, its still not bad pocket-money.
I must admit that the IDR 500, 000 was not for a Category 1 ayam.
McM
Hello Mongers, I need some help.
First, let me say that I am not a monger. I am a traveler. But I do like sex, and on every trip I try to dedicate one day to such a diversion. But I am also pretty old now. 72. So it is not that easy. Also, I do not like bar hopping, late at night. But I am willing to go to one specific place if I have a near certainty of getting what I want.
I would prefer to see a girl at my hotel, but I know how chancy agencies can be. But with a recommendation I could go for that too.
I am a senior member and have used this guide for useful advice (e. G. In Bali, Philippines, Canada) But this will be my first time in Jakarta. I will have my sex day there on Sept 29. I have all the day and night too, but do not want to be hunting late at night. I have my air ticket already, but no hotel yet.
I did read a lot of the postings already, but frankly I find them somewhat confusing because most assume you already know the places. Well, I did find Block M on the Google map, and also the Melawai hotel. But is the 6th floor bar of Melawai the same as Malioboro? This is just an example, but I would like a clarification on this.
So I would welcome any help. This is what I am looking for:
BBBJ and DFK are a must. I also like DATY if the girl is very clean, and I also enjoy a shower together to start. As for the fucking, at my age I am strictly a one pop person and it can happen that I cannot keep it up during straight sex which I do like to do. So I may want to finish with another BBBJ and possibly (but not required) CIM.
I am willing to pay up to around 1, 000 000 if I get these with girl at least 7. 5 in looks (preferably higher).
I will be grateful for any help. (I) Clarify Melawai / Malioboro and suggestions for other similar places and how to do it (ii) a useful recommendation for a good agency for a girl to come to my hotel (iii) a recommendation for a specific person you might know (send me contact info by private message). (iv) whatever else you might think useful.
You can post your suggestions and / or send me private message.
Thanks a lot, from an old guy.
Additional questions.
1.) A previous report mentioned a place called Maribaya. Is that different one fro Malioboro? Also near block M?
2.) Are Spas a good place for what I want? Which one you would suggest after reading my post below?
Traveler1234
06-22-12, 19:16
Additional questions.
1.) A previous report mentioned a place called Maribaya. Is that different one fro Malioboro? Also near block M?
2.) Are Spas a good place for what I want? Which one you would suggest after reading my post below?God bless you. I hope when I'm 72 still posting!
Sent you a pm.
Additional questions.
1.) A previous report mentioned a place called Maribaya. Is that different one fro Malioboro? Also near block M?
2.) Are Spas a good place for what I want? Which one you would suggest after reading my post below?Maribaya is a bar within the Hotel Melawai on Jalan Melawai on the south end of Blok M in South Jakarta. There's also decent Money Changers & Restaurants on this street. Expect the girls in Maribaya (often referred to as the 5th floor) to speak some English.
Malioboro is in the North of Jakarta and probably quite tough to negotiate if you don't speak much bahasa.
Member #4410
06-23-12, 19:35
Additional questions.
1.) A previous report mentioned a place called Maribaya. Is that different one fro Malioboro? Also near block M?
2.) Are Spas a good place for what I want? Which one you would suggest after reading my post below?Yr. 1. : No, Malioboro is in North Jakarta, not too far from the National monument. Action there is mostly in the evening, but during the day you can visit the spa (not my piece of cake, but to each his own).
Maribaya is the bar on the 6th floor of hotel Melawai in Blok M. Price is now 450, 000 per girl per hour. Opening hours are 11:00 a. M. Until 11:00 pm, but the first girls are on standby from 10:00 a. M. Shift change is around 5:00 pm The bar is open 7 days a week, but availability of girls varies per day. I spent many enjoyable hours there with one or two and sometimes three girls.
Yr. 2. : You will have to wait for answers from other contributors. Sorry.
Choice of hotel is entirely up to you. In 20 years of visiting Jakarta I never came across a hotel that was not Girl Friendly.
Regards,
Ko
Choice of hotel is entirely up to you. In 20 years of visiting Jakarta I never came across a hotel that was not Girl Friendly.
Regards,
KoA small addition: avoid the Sofyan hotels! They are not girl friendly and you can't get a decent drink there!
atNabradi: Where are you going to stay? If we know, we might direct you to places nearby to get what you want. Certainly at 1 million you can have fun the way you like.
I would avoid agencies but if you have to, try to contact JakartaAfterDark.
Mighty Spearsman
06-26-12, 00:07
Interesting to hear McMaiden's voice of experience. I assume that these prices are after negotiation in the bar itself? One wonders how the girls manage to make a living, given that:
1) They typically don't score a John every night.
2) It costs IDR150K to enter CJ's.
3) Taxi costs may be high if she lives far away.
4) Cost of dress, make up etc to be able to enter an upscale hotel bar.
The Shooter paid $130 for a night of debauchery with a CJ lass on his last visit, overpaying by about $26, but he has no regrets. FR below.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1267247&viewfull=1#post1267247Please don't feel too sorry for these girls! Even if they only land a customer once a week, they still will make out ok.
Few if any of the working girls travel long distances by taxi. Instead, they take the bus, minivans, train or ojek (motorcycle taxi) to get around.
If a monger spends the night of LT with a young lovely, walks her downstairs in the morning, shoves 50, 000 extra rupiah into her hand and then deposits her in a BlueBird and watches her be driven away, chances are the girl will then tell the taxi driver to drop her off down the street (before the meter fare has increased past the minimum amount) , so she can get out and take the bus / minivan / train / ojek home.
The basic cost of living for these girls is a lot lower than one might think. They may share a one-room apartment with other girls and eat for 10, 000 rupiah or less per day.
As a benchmark, a (non-working girl) Indonesian who earns 1, 200, 000 rupiah a month is in the top 25% of wage earners in the country.
A small addition: avoid the Sofyan hotels! They are not girl friendly and you can't get a decent drink there!
AtNabradi: Where are you going to stay? If we know, we might direct you to places nearby to get what you want. Certainly at 1 million you can have fun the way you like.
I would avoid agencies but if you have to, try to contact JakartaAfterDark.I do not have a hotel yet. Only my air ticket. I was thinking maybe the Crown Plaza. But I will look on the posts on the hotel thread.
Do you have a recommendation? Something decent, not too expensive, but clean and friendly.
As a benchmark, a (non-working girl) Indonesian who earns 1, 200, 000 rupiah a month is in the top 25% of wage earners in the country.I hate to be pedantic, but I don't think that's right. The average income, across Indonesia, is around $3000 per year. That comes in at a bit more than double the figure you mention. And the kind of girls that we want to hang out with are a bit above the average in terms of education, earning ability and so on, if you consider that the average includes a lot of rural folk of the kind who don't have the initiative to get on a bus and come to Jakarta. This is getting off the subject of cewek / nyewek a bit, but since we are talking about the economics of the trade, it's slightly relevant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
I hate to be pedantic, but I don't think that's right. The average income, across Indonesia, is around $3000 per year. That comes in at a bit more than double the figure you mention. And the kind of girls that we want to hang out with are a bit above the average in terms of education, earning ability and so on, if you consider that the average includes a lot of rural folk of the kind who don't have the initiative to get on a bus and come to Jakarta. This is getting off the subject of cewek / nyewek a bit, but since we are talking about the economics of the trade, it's slightly relevant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capitaAgreed. I think the average CJ's type of girl spends between 10 and 15 million rupiah a month.
Wine Guy 247
06-27-12, 06:25
Just visited Jakarta and had a great time. Visited Top Gun. Not that many true lookers but really enjoyed playing pool with some of the girls and watching the band. Eventually crossed the street to D's. I remember reading in the forum that there was a room at the back where you could get a private dance an a BJ. Never would have found this without the forum. Thanks!
WG
Agreed. I think the average CJ's type of girl spends between 10 and 15 million rupiah a month.I helped a girl find a kos a few weeks ago. She couldn't find anything in central Jakarta that met her (not particularly high) standards for less than a juta. Even the ones at a million were pretty ratty (literally!). She wanted AC, for which she had to pay a minimum of 1. 5. Some of them share a room to cut costs, but even so. She also talked about the economics of picking up guys at BATS. She said she needed to invest about 200 thou for a night out looking for a guy. Considering that there is almost always 2-3 girls for every guy in any happening bar, you have to assume that the average pick up success rate is only around 33, even assuming every guy goes home with a girl. Which means they'd need to charge 600k just to break even. Of course, some girls manage to pull almost every time, but they are the really hot ones. I suppose it drives a selection process: if you can't meet your target, you better find another way of earning a living. No point wasting pity, but good to be realistic about the dynamics of it.
Master Diver II
06-28-12, 10:17
She said she needed to invest about 200 thou for a night out looking for a guy. Considering that there is almost always 2-3 girls for every guy in any happening bar, you have to assume that the average pick up success rate is only around 33, even assuming every guy goes home with a girl. Which means they'd need to charge 600k just to break even. Of course, some girls manage to pull almost every time, but they are the really hot ones. I suppose it drives a selection process: if you can't meet your target, you better find another way of earning a living. No point wasting pity, but good to be realistic about the dynamics of it.Interesting analysis but that's why the girls get smart very quickly: they'll take note which bar is having ladies night and schedule their week accordingly. That will change the financial commitment aspect quite drastically. Incidentally, I think the ratio varies a lot from the beginning of the night to the end. They are also very savvy how to minimize their transport costs. In addition, that's why there is a take up of last minute offers even while on the way out in the hotel lobbies. They don't necessarily just go to the one place either: Sometimes various combinations of bars like CJs / BATS / Falatehan / Stadium / Delilah / Three Horse / Red Square / Tiga Puluh etc. Let's just be smart about not killing the market and have fun.
MD II
They don't necessarily just go to the one place either: Sometimes various combinations of bars like CJs / BATS / Falatehan / Stadium / Delilah / Three Horse / Red Square / Tiga Puluh etc. Let's just be smart about not killing the market and have fun.For sure. And they have different price strategies in different venues. There's a regular I meet in Jaksa, she was quite happy with 300k for a few hours, she still chases up for further meetings. I know she goes to CJs a lot and gets a lot more than that when she pulls there. But I often meet her in the afternoon, which is low season rates. Maybe I get a regular client discount. I know Jaksa is sneered at a bit by most of the regulars here, but it's certainly a good place to go shopping for seconds. Ha! I mean the ones who didn't pull. Must be said, the really hot ones are probably above that and they don't get left on the shelf anyway.
the really hot ones are probably above that and they don't get left on the shelf anyway.On any given night in CJs, there may be 2 or 3 of those "really hot ones". They are a rare commodity.
I read this year Ramadan will begin at 20 JUL.
After that days, the bars in blok M will be open as they are now?
And the places like Malioboro, Alexis and so?
Thanks!
I read this year Ramadan will begin at 20 JUL.
After that days, the bars in blok M will be open as they are now?
And the places like Malioboro, Alexis and so?
Thanks!It's always a bit hard to tell what's going to happen until it does. On past record, most pubs and clubs will shut, except (in some cases) those based in star-rated hotels and / or those with extra special protection. When they are open, they often have to or choose to compromise a bit, often a bit farcically. For example, one resto I went to refused to serve me a LARGE beer in Ramadhan ("But I can have a small one?" "Certainly, Sir." "And the small one costs half as much as the large one? And I can order two?" "Of course, Sir". I'm not joking! Which chapter of al-Quran did THAT come from?). Most bordellos shut, although sometimes they operate under reduced circumstances. The Fifth Floor is famous, for another example, for closing but offering girls from hotel rooms instead.
Alexis would be interesting. I bet you that has some major backing. I don't usually go there, I'm too much of a tight-wad.
Last year, the Blok M bars still opened most of the time, but closed earlier. Otherwise, it was business as usual. I preferred it, the girls all wanted to get out of the bar well before one, although on the flip side, they also wanted to leave earlier to go home for saur.
A lot of gf type girls will be fasting. They don't usually have sex while doing so, that counts as breaking the fast. Very few girls feel strongly about not having sex after buka, though. In some cases, they go home to their kampungs. The girls who are going home want more money, so they will either be greedy or eager to please and or both. Some girls who operate in bordellos will be enthusiastic about giving you their number so you can visit them somewhere, so they don't lose an income for the whole month.
Food is slightly more difficult to get in the day time, but doesn't affect most travelers who eat in western or upmarket places.
Taxis and useful members of the working classes are difficult to find and employ.
People are generally a bit lazy and sleepy, it's not a good time for business.
If you live here, it's kind of a pain in the arse, but not a total waste of time or a bad time necessarily.
Hope this post covers all the details, and hope no-one else needs to come out with the string of Jakarta / Ramadhan questions that we always get. Cheers.
. If you live here, it's kind of a pain in the arse, but not a total waste of time or a bad time necessarily.
Hope this post covers all the details, and hope no-one else needs to come out with the string of Jakarta / Ramadhan questions that we always get. Cheers.Very good overview, thanks. As an addition: bars in e.g. Bandung and Surabaya are completely closed, so avoid being outside Jakarta during this time. Also, be aware that many girls consider during Ramadan a Long Time as until 4 o'clock in the morning, because than they have to go home to cook breakfast.
Bali is generally OK, except for the week before and after Idul Fitri, because then all Java girls have gone home!
Have fun.
NO
Irish Mongrel
06-30-12, 10:18
I read this year Ramadan will begin at 20 JUL.
After that days, the bars in blok M will be open as they are now?
And the places like Malioboro, Alexis and so?
Thanks!With regards to the high end hotels:
BATS in the Shang-ri-la is open thru out, but has no live music and all the lights are on for the first couple of days of Ramadan. There's also a day two weeks in which is off significance and the same regime applies. No live music and all lights on. There is no covercharge for those days and you'll find a few girls down there, but not too many. The rest of the time, it's business as usual.
CJ's in the Hotel Mulia is closed the three days mentioned above. Business as usual the rest of the time.
I also thinks the first day of Eid is treated as above, but have never been there for that as the whole country just about shuts down and not worthwhile being there for business.
They're not all from Indramayu. I've seen Ayam from the likes of Bogor, Bandung and Surabaya at Pangeran Jayakarta and some of the Kota places. Oh, and the girl can still refuse a customer. I've seen it happen many times.
You?For sure, I was refused service by girl in travel
The one and only time I'll go there.
Ftr I'm not unattractive or unclean, getting way more free action these days.
She just wasn't keen, saying too big.
185cm is All
I won't comment on KK, because I am local. But from what I read, looks like more difficult to bang girls in their home country (I. E. In Usbek) , because selling sex's discreet. .True. It's damn near impossible to get Japanese in Japan, but in Australia it's easy.
Besides if you live here sometimes it's worth spicing it up.
As much as I do love our divine brown beauties
So tipping.
Certainly not customary where I'm from
And while I see it's value.
It's what? 10% if bill in a resto.
But I see guys throwing around 100's like it's monopoly money.
Even for shit service!
Even for private hire!
May well be for you? But not for bule who live here outside oil and gas.
I know what life costs here, I live like a decent paid local.
I know exactly how valuable 50rb is.
And that's the biggest tip I'll give,
It's enough really.
If she gives bad service, or pads the charges, she gets none.
I know how hard a masseur works in their hour for far less money.
So I'm not giving out candy for aspic.
I also don't buy girls drinks.
What's your policy?
So
=Koperen Karel; 1290826]Was in Jakarta again and decided to visit Blok M' s bars.
Slightly, with an extra 'private' corner.
The girl (forgot her name, but she has her hair cut in a bob) quickly stripped and started to open my pants. To my surprise she immediately asked if I wanted 'pompom'. This was still a no-no last year. I was tempted by her very attractive bum, but politely declined and chose the BBBJ, which she performed very good after some DFK and me fingering her pussy. After I came in her mouth she cleaned my parts and I closed up and paid her 400, 000.
Hmmm.
Plenty of good lookers there.
BBBJ in the's is 200. Don't negotiate.
FS is 300-400 covered optional BTW.
In the corner go for it
Regards,
Ko[/QUOTE]
Sorry about the last post.
I'm posting from an iPhone and it's pretty limiting for being able to edit and post.
Member #4537
07-02-12, 05:03
What's your policy?If I am at Classik, Travel, Pangeran etc. I usually tip 100k but that's because I always do two shots and / or ask for BBBJ and / or bareback.
I also thinks the first day of Eid is treated as above, but have never been there for that as the whole country just about shuts down and not worthwhile being there for business.Yes, often the first day and perhaps the day before and the day after the first days are particularly strict. I'm not really sure if Idul Fitri itself is "strict" or if it's just a matter of logistics, everyone's gone home.
So tipping.Do what you want to do. I always laugh when guys say "Don't tip too much, you'll spoil the market." If I want to tip or pay more than the going price, that's between me and the girl. I'm not out there as a signed up representative of the Mongers Community. I think being slightly generous gets you much better service next time if you go back to the same place, even if it's a different girl. And if you don't, well, it just makes me feel good to give a girl who's done a good job a bit of extra money and see her smile. I get my rocks off AND I go away feeling like a generous guy. I usually tip 50k regardless, unless it's wilfully bad service or seriously bad attitude. If it's just a lack of skill or enthusiasm, she gets 50k extra and no repeat service.
You talk about making the same salary as a well-off Indonesian. Indonesian guys tip girls, often quite a lot if they like them. They also tip golf caddies, waiters and other useful proles. I used to go out mongering with a local Chinese guy, young and wealthy family, but not rolling in it personally. He gave crazy amounts to girls if he thought they were a bit special (we often disagreed: the usual breakdown, he was into pale skin and mancung noses). Golf caddies also tell me that locals are better tippers than bules. I think locals understand that no-one really lives on their wages in this country.
I'm not in gas and oil, either.
I usually tip 50k regardless, unless it's wilfully bad service or seriously bad attitude. If it's just a lack of skill or enthusiasm, she gets 50k extra and no repeat service.I give about the same at the cheapo short time places like Classic, Travel, etc. 100k for a girl who does a good job. 50k for mediocre. Nothing if she pisses me off and is horrible (very rare that happens).
I see no problem with tipping those girls 100k. They spend an hour in there servicing you and almost always let you get off 2 shots in that hour. It's less than 300k for that hour. I don't mind giving them that extra 100k. As a matter of fact, I think that's pretty much the standard tip these days even for the locals.
Where I see the problem to be is not the tip at those type of places, but the prices guys are paying to take girls out of places like CJ's, BATS, etc. I keep hearing about guys giving 1. 5 million for all night. That's too much in my opinion.
Where I see the problem to be is not the tip at those type of places, but the prices guys are paying to take girls out of places like CJ's, BATS, etc. I keep hearing about guys giving 1. 5 million for all night. That's too much in my opinion.Agreed. But the beer in those bars is overpriced, too. Obviously there's a market for all available products in that price range. I spose a newcomer to town might feel safe in the hotel bar and think that going down to Palatehan or Kota was slightly too edgy or something.
Irish Mongrel
07-02-12, 15:13
Where I see the problem to be is not the tip at those type of places, but the prices guys are paying to take girls out of places like CJ's, BATS, etc. I keep hearing about guys giving 1. 5 million for all night. That's too much in my opinion.I have a GFE regular who occasionally works in BATS. I give her 1M a night, but a night starts at 6 pm when she arrives at my hotel and finishes when she gets up late in the morning. If we go to BATS together she may meet up with a couple of friends. Stunners, in my view, whose minimum is 2M, and they do get it. They do not go for anything less according to my regular. Would I pay it? Probably yes, if I knew it was going to be money well spent. Certainly have the body and a good personality, and that's always a start. I've certainly paid a lot more in other places, and it's just like buying a good bottle of single malt that you've never tried before. You may not like it, but you're sure as hell going to try it. These girls target the guys staying in the hotel, easy to spot in hotel bars. They're the ones signing off on every drink.
whose minimum is 2M, and they do get it.I agree with a lot of your post. But I seriously doubt that any girl in BATS has a "minimum" of 2M. They may get it on occasion, but I've taken the top stunners (in my opinion) home from there and never paid anywhere near that. I do think they target guys staying at the hotel. And that's mainly for short times. On any given night in BATS, there may be 2 or 3 girls of high enough quality to consider worthy of paying $100 USD. I've seen a handful of girls there in the last 10 years who would be worthy of 2M, but they have always come there with guys and weren't freely on the market. I can understand why guys who stay there overpay, because they don't know any better. I still remember the first girl I ever met from BATS. A little cutie named Intan. She ended up marrying a Brit and moved away. But the first time I met her, she went with me for 300k (that was the rate back then). She told me that she normally looked for guys new in Jakarta who had just arrived at the hotel and didn't know anything about Jakarta. She said she would ask them for 2 million rupiah and they would be so happy a beautiful girl was available to them that many times they would say yes. Since that price was similar to the price they would pay in their own country, they would pay it.
I completely understand why a guy who is new in town would pay that much. But there's no excuse for anyone who reads this forum to pay that much.
Very good observation. Thanks. As for me, an all-nighter out of Balikpapan or Samarinda, would cost me Rp. 450, 000. 00 at the most. Nothing as beautiful as those available stock out of Jakarta. But, cann't be too choosy.
Ciao,
Pete33.
I agree with a lot of your post. But I seriously doubt that any girl in BATS has a "minimum" of 2M. They may get it on occasion, but I've taken the top stunners (in my opinion) home from there and never paid anywhere near that. I do think they target guys staying at the hotel. And that's mainly for short times. On any given night in BATS, there may be 2 or 3 girls of high enough quality to consider worthy of paying $100 USD. I've seen a handful of girls there in the last 10 years who would be worthy of 2M, but they have always come there with guys and weren't freely on the market. I can understand why guys who stay there overpay, because they don't know any better. I still remember the first girl I ever met from BATS. A little cutie named Intan. She ended up marrying a Brit and moved away. But the first time I met her, she went with me for 300k (that was the rate back then). She told me that she normally looked for guys new in Jakarta who had just arrived at the hotel and didn't know anything about Jakarta. She said she would ask them for 2 million rupiah and they would be so happy a beautiful girl was available to them that many times they would say yes. Since that price was similar to the price they would pay in their own country, they would pay it.
I completely understand why a guy who is new in town would pay that much. But there's no excuse for anyone who reads this forum to pay that much.
I agree with a lot of your post. But I seriously doubt that any girl in BATS has a "minimum" of 2M. They may get it on occasion, but I've taken the top stunners (in my opinion) home from there and never paid anywhere near that. I do think they target guys staying at the hotel. And that's mainly for short times. On any given night in BATS, there may be 2 or 3 girls of high enough quality to consider worthy of paying $100 USD.
I completely understand why a guy who is new in town would pay that much. But there's no excuse for anyone who reads this forum to pay that much.There are some girls that are star quality that hit BATS between 10/12 at night. I was down last November, spent 2 weeks at a hotel near there. I would go down and eat some noodle soup at night and watch them getting out of the cabs going in. Heading down again next week for a few weeks, I'll probably try my hand there.
I spent all of my time in Blok M, My last visit I had fun but the girls were not as pretty as the ones going to BATS. I actually got a couple of phone numbers.
The ones I was chatting up were early 20's and could not have weighed more than 45kg. If that, banging bodies and looked to be decent in the titty department.
I'll post a report next week. Hopefully get some pics.
It's always a bit hard to tell what's going to happen until it does. On past record, most pubs and clubs will shut, except (in some cases) those based in star-rated hotels and / or those with extra special protection. When they are open, they often have to or choose to compromise a bit, often a bit farcically. For example, one resto I went to refused to serve me a LARGE beer in Ramadhan ("But I can have a small one?" "Certainly, Sir." "And the small one costs half as much as the large one? And I can order two?" "Of course, Sir". I'm not joking! Which chapter of al-Quran did THAT come from?). Most bordellos shut, although sometimes they operate under reduced circumstances. The Fifth Floor is famous, for another example, for closing but offering girls from hotel rooms instead.
Alexis would be interesting. I bet you that has some major backing. I don't usually go there, I'm too much of a tight-wad.
Last year, the Blok M bars still opened most of the time, but closed earlier. Otherwise, it was business as usual. I preferred it, the girls all wanted to get out of the bar well before one, although on the flip side, they also wanted to leave earlier to go home for saur.
A lot of gf type girls will be fasting. They don't usually have sex while doing so, that counts as breaking the fast. Very few girls feel strongly about not having sex after buka, though. In some cases, they go home to their kampungs. The girls who are going home want more money, so they will either be greedy or eager to please and or both. Some girls who operate in bordellos will be enthusiastic about giving you their number so you can visit them somewhere, so they don't lose an income for the whole month.
Food is slightly more difficult to get in the day time, but doesn't affect most travelers who eat in western or upmarket places.
Taxis and useful members of the working classes are difficult to find and employ.
People are generally a bit lazy and sleepy, it's not a good time for business.
If you live here, it's kind of a pain in the arse, but not a total waste of time or a bad time necessarily.
Hope this post covers all the details, and hope no-one else needs to come out with the string of Jakarta / Ramadhan questions that we always get. Cheers.Thanks for your update Gonzo 2.
I was planing to visit from 28/7 to 5/8 and base on your info it's not the right time.
Can you please advise.
Thanks
here is my experience from a recent sampling of various aspects of the nightlife in jakarta.
let me preface it with a comment: i prefer tall young indonesian girls wearing short skirts and natural breasts, i generally seek gfe and i usually let the girls approach me, which admittedly is not the best way to score the aforementioned tall young indonesians. i do it because i like to fantasize that i seduced the girl and that if she likes me we will both enjoy. back to real life, at closing time i may end up with any girl who is not fugly because i don't want to go back empty handed but i am just too drunk and too tired to enjoy or know what i am doing. somehow i still manage to have fun in the process.
don't get me wrong, i am an experienced monger and i know the choices i will be faced with at the end of the night, after the beauties i have been looking at all evening will be long gone with more enterprising guys who walked up to them. will it be one of the leftover hardened pros, or perhaps the ugly short fat girl who kept following me all night? no. i will still be looking for the unlikely chance encounter with my dream girl, and chances are some time i will find her because in jakarta the night does not end.
day 1: jalan falatehan in blok m is a rather small and low class street, i got there late around 1am. a pretty (or maybe i was looking through my glass) but short girl chatted me up at topgun, then brought me to mybar across the street. at closing (4am) i decided she was not so bad after all and at least she spoke english. i asked her for a price at the club and she replied whatever you want. she was very good in bed but her pussy smelled of something, maybe condom, which was a real turnoff. i verified several times that it was not my condoms which smelled but it was her juices. when i gave her 500k she said the minimum price is 750k, i paid and she left after st.
on jl falatehan i have also visited highway to elle, which did not have any attractive girls, and d's place, which must be where the highway girls retire. one of them followed me on the street, begging me to take her. not cool. also i found it hard to get a blue bird or express taxi in the area late at night.
day 2: hit red square at 11:00pm. this is an upscale place, a bit small and crowded, many pretty girls there but hard to know if they are wg, none of them came to me so i moved on to stadium at 4:00am. as previously reported it is huge disco playing techno and full of weird and ecstatic people. place was packed, i was immediately approached by a flabby, old indian girl asking me to join her table, one of the few around the bar. some of her friends looked ok, i made the mistake of ordering long island ice tea, they passed my glass around and drank it all, the next one was stolen while i was not looking. in most bars i noticed that long island is disproportionately expensive and very popular with the girls. around 7am i hooked up with a soft lady who did not appear to be taking drugs, she had some nice story about being a forex agent, but could not quite answer questions on the matter, anyway she provided a nice bbbjtc and stayed with me until 7pm the next day without ever mentioning money. i resorted to bj because like the previous girl her pussy smelled of something reminiscent of a bad quality condom. i think i gave her 800k or so, she told me she is 37 but her body looked much younger and she was very gentle and personable. she even called my room to let me know she got home.
note: if there was ever a fire at stadium i would expect a great number of casualties, just getting out of the place at closing (7am) is chaotic and takes forever.
day 3: bats at shangri la (110k entrance includes 1 drink) , nice place, good band and girls, but all seasoned pros in my opinion; i. e. they work every night, at shangri la or cj's (mulia hotel) , ask for 1. 5m and only do short time. took a very pretty young 1. 5m lady back to my room, service was mediocre, fully covered, and then again that smell. i still don't know what was up with that, could not finish.
day 4: cj's. nice music too but 40% more expensive drinks (and girls?) than bats, entrance fee with 1 bacardi coke set me back 160k. many pretty ladies (including my bats date who recognized me from the night before) standing around. finally a young thing, a bit short, a bit plump but with beautiful eyes started staring in my directions and eventually danced with me. she says she is 19 and a student. needs 2 million to buy books. i am like. what? 2 million? her story is: her friend brought her to cj's 2 weeks ago for the first time and i am her 6th customer ever, she just needs the money, won't go below 1. 7m, which i reluctantly agree to because of her eyes, smile and the fact that she is so new. but no. back in the room the smell again. her service was not so good, she would not give cbj because "she never did", no kissing and semi starfish experience. despite my efforts to teach her i remained unconvinced but not unsatisfied. note: sunday morning she wanted to bring me to church with her family. expensive experience and not entirely gratifying, but with a freshness not found with a hardened pro at almost the same price.
day 5: went back to block m and reconfirmed my first impressions. due to a barfight at mybar headed back to bats and engaged the most beautiful girl there, stole her from a fellow monger who was already sealing the deal. we spent the evening dancing and she was just so gorgeous. then all hell broke lose, at 2am she brought me to the bathroom area to talk, asked if i wanted to go with her and how much i would give her. i offered 1m because that is the maximum many on on the forum say they pay, she would not go below 1. 5m for st, that is at 2am and i could tell she somewhat liked me. so how do you guys do it? of course back to the bar some other girls asked "where is your girlfriend" and probably they might have gone for 1m. but then for me being cheaper has never been the same as being sexy. so i left and went to mille's (lokasari plaza. 8th fl in kota) , a disco open until noon. not a bad place though quite dark and a bit strange because it is full of "ecstatic flies", girls and some men loaded with ecstasy wearing large sunglasses that make them look like flies shaking their heads from left to right to the music. at 9am inda comes to me, pretty, sexy, just what i was looking for. she says "mister can you give me some ecstasy?". what the fuck. i send her away and she comes back and dances on me for like an hour. we go back to my hotel.
on the way she explains that she works at alexis, has her day off and asks if i will give her some money. i assure her i will, she wants 60 usd. in short she was fantastic, bbbj alone lasted over an hour, total gfe with her moaning, cuddling and asking for another round. we agreed to meet again at 8pm the next day for an evening out.
day 6: terminal at hotel classic. i first stopped for a drink at the bar on the ground floor of hotel terminal, couple girls dancing topless on stage and a couple came to me asking for drinks, but the place looked dead and i moved up to the 2nd floor. terminal is a big place with a center stage for music / dancers, many girls sitting in couches and the mamasan will hook you up with one of her girls. the 400k promo for 2 girls is a bargain, i let one chose the other but only the one i chose was good, her friend did not do anything the whole time, except being the first one to ask for tips. overall not a bad place if you don't go late and just want one hour of fun with 2 girls, not much interaction otherwise though you can always buy them a drink. i was the only non-indonesian in the place when i went.
day 7: since i am only meeting inda at 8 i decided to go visit her workplace in the afternoon. traffic was bad and it took 1 1/2 hour to get to alexis from my hotel in kota.
alexis (7th fl lounge) is a very high end place that has been described several times. many very beautiful girls there, but the mamasan only presented 2 out of maybe 80+ after i told her my preferences. i picked one, whom i really liked and we went to the warm pool for 30 minutes, followed by a disappointing 1 hour session in the room. she seemed to be trying hard but always complained that "you are too big" so nothing happened. bj was brief and covered, she tried to wank me but i was not really interested in that option. damage: 1. 5m for 1. 5 hours, in the end the sex part and cost are not so different from the freelancers, and ymmv too, so i suppose the choice of entertainment between sauna and disco boils down to a matter of preference and time constraints.
when inda did not show up at 8pm i was surprised, somehow i was expecting her. i blamed myself for being so naive, believing a beauty from alexis met in a disco at 9am while she was tripping on ecstasy would still remember me the next day, let alone show up in my room. i called the phone number she gave me and got her mother, it was her home phone, this girl is so extra-ordinary she does not own a cellphone. mother speaks no english, me no indonesian, we were both clueless but she sounded nice, for one thing she did not hang up on me. then it all went very fast, at 8:40pm i was making alternate plans, at 8:45 inda was at my door, at 8:50 i was receiving the best bbbjtc of my life at 11:00 we were having dinner and at midnight she took me to a disco of her chosing called "pujasera" not sure of the spelling since there is no name on the door.
pujasera disco is in a roman-style building very near lokasari plaza that would ressemble a strip club in the us from outside. inside it is creepy, quite large, completely dark with a few strobe lights, the music is just anything played at accelerated speed to create a high pitched voice effect combined with bass. i left this place 10 hours ago and i still can' t hear well. the service is awful, waitresses always discard your glass still half full and i had to fight with them, i don't recommend the place unless you are into techno / trance. what made it bearable is that inda danced and grinded for 6 hours non-stop without ever sitting down. what a performance she put on and then another glorious round back at the hotel. a real trooper. she volunteered that she actually did not take ecstasy that night out of respect for me, whereas she normally would have, like everyone else at the disco. i will miss her and i will miss jakarta.
Great report Mahal, thanks!
Day 2: Hit Red Square at 11:00PM. This is an upscale place, a bit small and crowded, many pretty girls there but hard to know if they are WG, none of them came to me so I moved on to Stadium at 4:00AM.Most of them probably not. Many of my "nice" female friends go there for a fun night out. They may pull, but it's not usually primarily a commercial workers zone. This is one place where you may actually have to suck your gut in and put on a clean shirt and show a bit of charm if you want to get anywhere.
Then all hell broke lose, at 2AM she brought me to the bathroom area to talk, asked if I wanted to go with her and how much I would give her. I offered 1M because that is the maximum many on on the forum say they pay, she would not go below 1. 5M for ST, that is at 2AM and I could tell she somewhat liked me. So how do you guys do it?You did exactly as I would likely have done. Dump her, find another girl or go to another venue, and find some girl who isn't only out to rip guys off. When those girls pull me aside like that and ask how much I will pay, I normally tell them I'm not interested anymore. I hate it when they negotiate price, but it doesn't happen that often. I try to avoid the girls who are so hard core. I think maybe because I've been in Jakarta so long, I can usually figure out which girls are hard core hookers who only really care about money and which ones are actually out to have some fun in life and are sweeter. I can also speak bahasa well enough for them to know I've been in town a while. I will say I had one girl surprised me at BATS not too long ago and negotiated price after we had a very lovely evening prior to that. By that time of night, I was horny and the remaining selection was quite poor, so I made the mistake of taking her home and had a horrible experience. But it's an extremely rare occasion that I will take one home who pulls me over and tries to negotiate an absurd price prior to going home with me. It always seems a bad move.
Day 1: Jalan Falatehan in Blok M is a rather small and low class street, I got there late around 1AM. A pretty (or maybe I was looking through my glass) but short girl chatted me up at TopGun, then brought me to MyBar across the street. At closing (4AM) I decided she was not so bad after all and at least she spoke English. I asked her for a price at the club and she replied whatever you want. She was very good in bed but her pussy smelled of something, maybe condom, which was a real turnoff. I verified several times that it was not my condoms which smelled but it was her juices. When I gave her 500K she said the minimum price is 750K, I paid and she left after ST.I saw Smoothy's comment that he doesn't like negotiating the price beforehand, which probably works if you are known as a regular and as a Jakarta-based expat. Also, it's still not that uncommon to find a semi-pro or opportunist who really will just take whatever notes you thrust at her on her way out the door. It works so long as both parties are reasonable. My "up to you" price for an all nighter is 500k, which works at Blok M and Jaksa, I can't be bothered with BATS or CJs. Still, I'd recommend against a newcomer accepting the "up to you" offer. It never really is just "up to you". If she's a hard-core professional, get the price clear first.
Master Diver II
07-05-12, 11:44
Here is my experience from a recent sampling of various aspects of the nightlife in Jakarta.
I asked her for a price at the club and she replied whatever you want. She was very good in bed but her pussy smelled of something, maybe condom, which was a real turnoff. I verified several times that it was not my condoms which smelled but it was her juices. When I gave her 500K she said the minimum price is 750K, I paid and she left after ST.She ripped you off I'm afraid. You don't pay 750k for a cewek from Falatehan for ST - least of all if you got her at 4am when they're as desperate too. Funny thing is I have come across the condom smell before, and asked the girl if she had been with someone earlier. I'm still not sure what it was til today. If anyone out there has any ideas, let me know.
Day 2: Hit Red Square at 11:00PM. This is an upscale place, a bit small and crowded, many pretty girls there but hard to know if they are WG, none of them came to me so I moved on to Stadium at 4:00AM.You need to put some effort in at Red Square. I can spot the odd "ayam" but there are a lot of civilians just looking for a night of fun too. An ex-gf took me there and she was with a group out to drink and dance like maniacs the whole night.
I made the mistake of ordering Long Island Ice Tea, they passed my glass around and drank it all, the next one was stolen while I was not looking. In most bars I noticed that Long Island is disproportionately expensive and very popular with the girls.Yes they love it. I end up buying it for a couple of friends every other time I'm in one of these clubs, and it is horribly overpriced.
Day 3: Bats at Shangri La (110K entrance includes 1 drink) , nice place, good band and girls, but all seasoned pros in my opinion; I. E. They work every night, at Shangri La or CJ's (Mulia hotel) , ask for 1. 5M and only do short time. Took a very pretty young 1. 5M lady back to my room, service was mediocre, fully covered, and then again that smell.
Day 4: CJ's. Finally a young thing, a bit short, a bit plump but with beautiful eyes started staring in my directions and eventually danced with me. She says she is 19 and a student. Needs 2 million to buy books. I am like. What? 2 million? Her story is: her friend brought her to CJ's 2 weeks ago for the first time and I am her 6th customer ever, she just needs the money, won't go below 1. 7MI would have walked away at the mention of these prices, and maybe laughed when they quoted them. I have been to CJs and BATS regularly and never paid these amounts. Even to help with books. Chalk that up as another story from the ceweks, as oppose to the usual sick / accident / hospital fees story.
Day 5:. Headed back to BATS and engaged the most beautiful girl there, stole her from a fellow monger who was already sealing the deal. We spent the evening dancing and she was just so gorgeous. Then all hell broke lose, at 2AM she brought me to the bathroom area to talk, asked if I wanted to go with her and how much I would give her. I offered 1M because that is the maximum many on on the forum say they pay, she would not go below 1. 5M for ST, that is at 2AM and I could tell she somewhat liked me. So how do you guys do it? Of course back to the bar some other girls asked "where is your girlfriend" and probably they might have gone for 1M. Interestingly you didn't have a single good experience by paying the silly money. Perhaps it just shows that throwing money doesn't necessarily get you the best service? Maybe you lucked out by walking away.
So I left and went to Mille's (Lokasari Plaza. 8th fl in Kota) , a disco open until noon. At 9AM Inda comes to me, pretty, sexy, just what I was looking for. She says "Mister can you give me some ecstasy?". What the fuck. I send her away and she comes back and dances on me for like an hour. We go back to my hotel.
On the way she explains that she works at Alexis, has her day off and asks if I will give her some money. I assure her I will, she wants 60 USD. In short she was fantastic, BBBJ alone lasted over an hour, total GFE with her moaning, cuddling and asking for another round. We agreed to meet again at 8PM the next day for an evening out.It's always the unexpected ones that manage to blow your mind somehow.
Day 7: since I am only meeting Inda at 8 I decided to go visit her workplace in the afternoon. Many very beautiful girls there, but the mamasan only presented 2 out of maybe 80+ after I told her my preferences. I picked one, whom I really liked and we went to the warm pool for 30 minutes, followed by a disappointing 1 hour session in the room. She seemed to be trying hard but always complained that "you are too big" so nothing happened. BJ was brief and covered, she tried to wank me but I was not really interested in that option. Damage: 1. 5M for 1. 5 hours.You seem to have very deep pockets bro, but you'd be better off just having a massage at Delta IMHO just to warm up for an evening.
When Inda did not show up at 8PM I was surprised, somehow I was expecting her. I blamed myself for being so naive, believing a beauty from Alexis met in a disco at 9AM while she was tripping on ecstasy would still remember me the next day, let alone show up in my room. I called the phone number she gave me and got her mother, it was her home phone, this girl is so extra-ordinary she does not own a cellphone. Mother speaks no English, me no Indonesian, we were both clueless but she sounded nice, for one thing she did not hang up on me. Then it all went very fast, at 8:40PM I was making alternate plans, at 8:45 Inda was at my door, at 8:50 I was receiving the best BBBJTC of my life at 11:00 we were having dinner and at midnight she took me to a disco of her choosing called "Pujasera" not sure of the spelling since there is no name on the door. I don't recommend the place unless you are into techno / trance. What made it bearable is that Inda danced and grinded for 6 hours non-stop without ever sitting down. What a performance she put on and then another glorious round back at the hotel. A real trooper. She volunteered that she actually did not take ecstasy that night out of respect for me, whereas she normally would have, like everyone else at the disco. I will miss her and I will miss Jakarta.You're very lucky. As a whole, the girls are very unreliable but 45 minutes late is actually pretty good for Jakarta. Menteng used to advise me to make at least two dates and only cancel one when the other showed up. But a great, and very honest FR bro. Perhaps you need to chat with JAD on your negotiation skills. Incidentally just for reference, there are very few fixed lines in Jakarta. Quite often the "home" phone is a CDMA phone that they will still carry with them. It is normal for girls to have at least two phones: one CDMA and one GSM. The CDMA numbers will start with the prefix 021 just like the fixed lines and the GSM prefix is 08. Just something to note when you receive numbers from the girls. It's highly unlikely that an Alexis girl did not have a GSM phone.
MD II
I saw Smoothy's comment that he doesn't like negotiating the price beforehand, which probably works if you are known as a regular and as a Jakarta-based expat. Also, it's still not that uncommon to find a semi-pro or opportunist who really will just take whatever notes you thrust at her on her way out the door. It works so long as both parties are reasonable. My "up to you" price for an all nighter is 500k, which works at Blok M and Jaksa, I can't be bothered with BATS or CJs. Still, I'd recommend against a newcomer accepting the "up to you" offer. It never really is just "up to you". If she's a hard-core professional, get the price clear first.I absolutely agree with "It works so long as both parties are reasonable." I think the problem these days is too many of these girls have been screwed over by guys who refused to pay them decently, so they now ask a price up front. I'll never forget one time when these 2 girls called me one morning and told me they had just finished a double up on some guy who took them home and he only gave them 125k for the 2 of them. The girls wanted me to explain to him that they wanted 300k each and that 125k for both (62. 5k each for those who don't want to do the math) was unfair. I'd been with the girls many times so I knew they provided good service, but they could not speak English. They put the guy on the phone and I simply explained to him that Jakarta was such a wonderful and special place. That you could get a unique GFE experience here because the girls were not so hard core to demand a certain fee up front. That the going rate for 2 girls like those was 300k each and no less than 250k each if the girls provided good service, and us guys kind of had a code of honor to pay the girls a fair rate. I asked him if the girls did something wrong. He told me,"nothing wrong, they were a good fuck. But if they don't have the common sense to negotiate up front, they'll get what I give them."
It's guys like that who have ruined the GFE scene in Jakarta. And the pricing.
I absolutely agree with "It works so long as both parties are reasonable." I think the problem these days is too many of these girls have been screwed over by guys who refused to pay them decently, so they now ask a price up front. I'll never forget one time when these 2 girls called me one morning and told me they had just finished a double up on some guy who took them home and he only gave them 125k for the 2 of them. The girls wanted me to explain to him that they wanted 300k each and that 125k for both (62. 5k each for those who don't want to do the math) was unfair. I'd been with the girls many times so I knew they provided good service, but they could not speak English. They put the guy on the phone and I simply explained to him that Jakarta was such a wonderful and special place. That you could get a unique GFE experience here because the girls were not so hard core to demand a certain fee up front. That the going rate for 2 girls like those was 300k each and no less than 250k each if the girls provided good service, and us guys kind of had a code of honor to pay the girls a fair rate. I asked him if the girls did something wrong. He told me,"nothing wrong, they were a good fuck. But if they don't have the common sense to negotiate up front, they'll get what I give them."
It's guys like that who have ruined the GFE scene in Jakarta. And the pricing.Hehe. What an arsehole. Still, quite an entertaining scenario. Good on you for attempting to negotiate for them. I had a regular a while back who came round to my place with eyes flashing and chest heaving one night, she said she and four other girls had gone around to a guys place to make him pay what he'd agreed to one of the girls. She, at least, was quite wiry and strong, labor in the fields as a young girl no doubt, and quite fierce. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during the confrontation. She said the guy called the satpam, but the satpam listened to both sides and supported the girl. As we said, "so long as both parties are reasonable."
It's always a bit hard to tell what's going to happen until it does. On past record, most pubs and clubs will shut, except (in some cases) those based in star-rated hotels and / or those with extra special protection. When they are open, they often have to or choose to compromise a bit, often a bit farcically. For example, one resto I went to refused to serve me a LARGE beer in Ramadhan ("But I can have a small one?" "Certainly, Sir." "And the small one costs half as much as the large one? And I can order two?" "Of course, Sir". I'm not joking! Which chapter of al-Quran did THAT come from?). Most bordellos shut, although sometimes they operate under reduced circumstances. The Fifth Floor is famous, for another example, for closing but offering girls from hotel rooms instead.
Alexis would be interesting. I bet you that has some major backing. I don't usually go there, I'm too much of a tight-wad.
Last year, the Blok M bars still opened most of the time, but closed earlier. Otherwise, it was business as usual. I preferred it, the girls all wanted to get out of the bar well before one, although on the flip side, they also wanted to leave earlier to go home for saur.
A lot of gf type girls will be fasting. They don't usually have sex while doing so, that counts as breaking the fast. Very few girls feel strongly about not having sex after buka, though. In some cases, they go home to their kampungs. The girls who are going home want more money, so they will either be greedy or eager to please and or both. Some girls who operate in bordellos will be enthusiastic about giving you their number so you can visit them somewhere, so they don't lose an income for the whole month.
Food is slightly more difficult to get in the day time, but doesn't affect most travelers who eat in western or upmarket places.
Taxis and useful members of the working classes are difficult to find and employ.
People are generally a bit lazy and sleepy, it's not a good time for business.
If you live here, it's kind of a pain in the arse, but not a total waste of time or a bad time necessarily.
Hope this post covers all the details, and hope no-one else needs to come out with the string of Jakarta / Ramadhan questions that we always get. Cheers.Thank you Gonzo Two. Very good answer!
When I arrive to Jakarta on my trip to Irian Jaya, I have to stay at the Sheraton Bandara near the airport, due to an extremely early flight. Because of the schedule I only have a late afternoon and early evening.
Two questions: 1.) Is anything available in that immediate area? 2.) The hotel has a Spa. They also say that in room massage is available. On the Spa menu is a "Gentlemans Service" (or something like this) for 900K. 2 hours. Any chance that all this means I could get sex right on the premises?
Greatly appreciate any answer on this.
Traveler1234
07-08-12, 02:56
Two questions: 1.) Is anything available in that immediate area? 2.) The hotel has a Spa. They also say that in room massage is available. On the Spa menu is a "Gentlemans Service" (or something like this) for 900K. 2 hours.Can't help re that area but you have plenty of time to visit Hotel Travel or Classic for enjoyable 2-3hrs
Two questions: 1.) Is anything available in that immediate area? 2.) The hotel has a Spa. They also say that in room massage is available. On the Spa menu is a "Gentlemans Service" (or something like this) for 900K. 2 hours. Any chance that all this means I could get sex right on the premises?There's a grubby, low budget red light district right near the airport filled with East Javanese hookers, forget the name. Might be a bit basic and rough, I think they're aiming at the local workers' market. Something costing 900k and labelled "Gentlemans Service" definitely sounds promising, doesn't it? I'm just surprised that they put it explicitly on the menu like that. Let us know how it goes.
PS Whoops! I thought you were talking about Jayapura. Other members may know more about the situation near the airport in Jakarta. A few years ago, someone said that the hotel actually based in the airport has a full-service, on site knocking shop. Only in Jakarta!
Andy Russett
07-10-12, 13:57
Does anyone have favorite central Jakarta lunchtime venues where you can also get a meal in addition to dessert?
Primo Bolan
07-10-12, 17:33
Does anyone have favorite central Jakarta lunchtime venues where you can also get a meal in addition to dessert?4 posts since 07? And now you are hungry?
Andy Russett
07-11-12, 00:02
4 posts since 07? And now you are hungry?What generated the interest is I recently completed the two books entitled Jakarta After Hours or something. The books are dated, but they discussed more meal options, e. G. Sushi, than I have seen on this forum over that past two years. Many of the MP's open before lunch and there are restro's near by and also many of the hotels (classic, alexis etc.) have on site restuarants. However, it seems like there may be more options out there and I wanted to hear the senior members opinions. Were those books discussed extensively when they first came out? It sounds like some things have changed and maybe not for the better. What is your view on them?
What generated the interest is I recently completed the two books entitled Jakarta After Hours or something. The books are dated, but they discussed more meal options, e. G. Sushi, than I have seen on this forum over that past two years. Many of the MP's open before lunch and there are restro's near by and also many of the hotels (classic, alexis etc.) have on site restuarants. However, it seems like there may be more options out there and I wanted to hear the senior members opinions. Were those books discussed extensively when they first came out? It sounds like some things have changed and maybe not for the better. What is your view on them?Imperial Chef, near the Olimo bus station, is good for duck and pork, and conveniently located near the Mangga Besar. Hayam Wuruk bordello area.
Madrid2000
07-11-12, 21:28
Went to Hotel Classic for the first time due to many positive reviews. Stepped in at level 5 and asked mamasan to recommend a girl.
Since I didn't know any of them.
The girl choosen was pretty but didn't say a word. We went to the room were she was showing no interest at all to shower together.
Do a BJ or do anything to arouse me. She was obviously straight from the kampung and it took her 10 minutes to figure out what was outside and inside.
Of the condom. I asked her for a BJ, but she refused why I went out and cancelled the whole thing.
I experienced the same thing last year in HT. The people there were very friendly and asked if I wanted to change the girl or if I wanted the money back.
I though Classic had a similar policy, but not. They forced an unattractive girl on me as a replacement and angrily refused any kind of refund of the money.
I wasn't interested in that girl and all the other girls the mamasan had were all newbies just like the first catastrophe.
I told them that HT would have helped me to get a refund if the girl was too inexperienced to do a satisfying job, the guards were polite, but the old.
Chinese mamasan (with her hoarse whisky voice) was starting to be aggressive. The money is small and not important. The important thing is for the
Establishment to show that they care for their customers.
I left the place before things went sour. But will never return.
A warning to all members. This place don't care * about you if they send you a inexperienced girl.
I have been to classic two times: The first and the last! Tomorrow HT.
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I experienced the same thing last year in HT. The people there were very friendly and asked if I wanted to change the girl or if I wanted the money back.Yeah, well. Hotel Travel does have young, inexperienced girls. I've more or less given up, last time I went, admittedly on a busy Saturday night, two of the girls said no, they didn't want to serve a Bule, and the third said she'd only do it as part of a double act. I lost interest and went home after a beer. I bet you they wouldn't have been so fussy on a Tuesday afternoon. I much prefer joints where you can chat and mingle with the girls, I hate the whole fish bowl concept. The best you can try to do is to tell the Mamasan to step back and give you some space, then look at the girls, try to make eye contact. Some of them will smile or wink or blow a kiss, then you know they are going to be ok. I've given up trusting Mamasan's recommendations, maybe if you're a regular, favored customer it works, but usually they have their own motivations for recommending someone, and your personal satisfaction seems to be quite low on their list of priorities.
Siepko Bach
07-13-12, 10:01
A short stop over in Jakarta wsas used to visit Travel & Berlian.
At hotel Travel, on Sunday evening, followed my standard recipe. Choose one girl, let her choose another one. It is not that I am too fond of threesomes but I cannot resist bargains & I find that two girls are usually more at ease with a bule. Worked fine this time. The chubby onbe was good during sex and the other one talkative. The fact that me no bahasa and they no english did not really hinder the conversation. Value for money.
Next afternoon Berlian. Chose the friendliest smiling girl. Good choice, was friendly during the whole process.
her pussy smelled of SOMETHING reminiscent of a bad quality condom. I think I.I know the smell you are talking about, I too, always thought it was a condom odor but finally figured it out. The girl has thrush. Take her to the pharmacy and buy her a course of Canestan oral. The thrush will clear up in a week and you can go back to a nice fresh sweet smelling pussy.
Hi coming to Jakarta in late August is Stadium night club still happening / Any police raids lately? Any member know any other clubs play good techno are good party place?
Hi any one been to the Stadium lately? Any police raids? Looking to be in town late August I want to go check out.
Belgianguy
07-19-12, 00:21
Just came back from a trip to jakarta.
Stayed at a friend's house near jatinegara station.
Very busy area during the day, traffic jams all along.
At night, the place quiets down, but some interesting things happening there, just strolling along the main road, away from the station, noticed several big holes in the wall along the tracks. And behold, lots of hookers there! Doing there business in little makeshift shacks, or even in the open!
Great for kicks. And the sight of a white tourist like myself was surely not a usual thing there, I got a lot of 'hello mister'.
Back at the house, I asked my local friend about that scene. He told me the going rates there are 50. 000 rp for a fuck in one of the huts, or 20. 000 to 30. 000 for a blow-job! No doubt very local scene with very local prices. But for the thrill-seekers among you, how's that for kicks?
At night, the place quiets down, but some interesting things happening there, just strolling along the main road, away from the station, noticed several big holes in the wall along the tracks. And behold, lots of hookers there! Doing there business in little makeshift shacks, or even in the open!Make sure they don't have dicks! The area is a pretty notorious lady boy zone, although there are real girls there, too. They tend to hang out in slightly different areas.
Yearly issue but from what I heard most bars and clubs are closed during the fasting month, the owner of some of the venues I go said they are open. Most hotels and plaza will function normally however bars restaurants in Kemang will be closed as the Bangka area is close to there for the first three days of Ramadhan. In Central Jakarta
BATS is open being a (steak restaurant) as same as Face Bar (opposite Mandarin Oriental) although they tone down alcohol display and music. Other stand alone venues I'm not sure about.
Fast Eddie 48
07-20-12, 23:30
Hi any one been to the Stadium lately? Any police raids? Looking to be in town late August I want to go check out.To Paulb.
I was in Jarkata last month did go to Stadium for 2 night no police raid just a few flight broke out, but there might be a police raid when you are in town you can call the police station and ask them about that.
Fast eddei 48
. but there might be a police raid when you are in town you can call the police station and ask them about that.Haha. But seriously, if you tip the bar staff five or ten thou for your first drink, by the second, you'll be their friend. Just ask them if there's going to be a raid that night. They usually know. In fact, since they are the ones that usually sell whatever it is that the police are looking for, that's another clear signal: if nothing is available that night, it's usually because they are expecting a raid. I used to go there with a gang of friends, mixed bunch, about half Indonesians. One of them always used to call ahead and check with his mates there. I don't think raids ever happen there without the prior knowledge of management.
I stayed recently at MyHotel in Glodok on Jl Gajah Mada. Very basic hotel, but new, clean and cheap: under USD 25 when booking through Agoda. From there the MPs Berlian and Kartika and the disco Stadium are within walking distance, as well as the Lokasari / Mangga Besar brothels, and even the Pangeran Jayakarta MPs (15 min walk if you're in good health).
On the west side of Jl Gajah Mada, near the intersection with JL Mangga Besar Raya, there are several street vendors (they appear after sunset) that sell enhancement pills of various kinds, Cialis etc. I bought a 4-pack of the Chinese version (as it has always served me well) for 50 kRp, and true enough it gave the "rush" in the face after 20 minutes and was good for 5 sessions: An IndoCupid contact came to the hotel directly after her work and we had two sessions before dinner, two sessions after dinner and finally a glorious morning session.
The location of MyHotel is good in also another way since it is along the Koridor 1 Busway, so one can quickly go to BATs, Tigah Pula and Block M, at least before 11 pm (when I think the last bus runs). I have marked the route in the Jakarta Monger map in green colour.
Thanks Shuga for this information. Good to know. You mention about the Jakarta Monger Map. Where can I find it? Did you get girls from the places you mentioned or did you always have freelancers from dating sites? I like a LT just as you can get in Pattaya or BKK.
I stayed recently at MyHotel in Glodok on Jl Gajah Mada. Very basic hotel, but new, clean and cheap: under USD 25 when booking through Agoda. From there the MPs Berlian and Kartika and the disco Stadium are within walking distance, as well as the Lokasari / Mangga Besar brothels, and even the Pangeran Jayakarta MPs (15 min walk if you're in good health).
On the west side of Jl Gajah Mada, near the intersection with JL Mangga Besar Raya, there are several street vendors (they appear after sunset) that sell enhancement pills of various kinds, Cialis etc. I bought a 4-pack of the Chinese version (as it has always served me well) for 50 kRp, and true enough it gave the "rush" in the face after 20 minutes and was good for 5 sessions: An IndoCupid contact came to the hotel directly after her work and we had two sessions before dinner, two sessions after dinner and finally a glorious morning session.
The location of MyHotel is good in also another way since it is along the Koridor 1 Busway, so one can quickly go to BATs, Tigah Pula and Block M, at least before 11 pm (when I think the last bus runs). I have marked the route in the Jakarta Monger map in green colour.
You mention about the Jakarta Monger Map. Where can I find it?In Reports of Distinction Ryo Saeba put a link to the map, see post #87.
Did you get girls from the places you mentioned or did you always have freelancers from dating sites?This was only a 3 day visit so I kept the girl from IC, who was not a freelancer but a freebee: she cost me nothing but a dinner each night and was happy with that and the good sessions. Actually, the first night I woke up just as she finished her first prayer (4.30 am), she was horny so we had a thorough session then. :)
Prestigejy
07-23-12, 16:21
Steet hookers noted at opposite KFC on the road to Olympia hotel Mangga Besar. Didn't try it as I heading to Travel hotel.
Siepko Bach
07-23-12, 17:21
Spent another two nights in Kota just before the start of Ramadan. Went to Hotel Travel both nights. And used my 'standard' procedure. Pick a girl, not a skinny one. And let her pick a companion. First night service was excellent. Wanted to have the same girls next night bu alas were occupied. Two others were also good.
During the daytime went to Blok M just to check it out. Jalan Falatehan is easily found from the busway end halt. But nothing going on there, as to be expected during the day. And the night activity is much too late for me.
No signs of Ramadan activity, unlike Solo where I was before.
FriendlyPlanet
07-23-12, 21:27
Yearly issue but from what I heard most bars and clubs are closed during the fasting month, the owner of some of the venues I go said they are open. Most hotels and plaza will function normally however bars restaurants in Kemang will be closed as the Bangka area is close to there for the first three days of Ramadhan. In Central Jakarta
BATS is open being a (steak restaurant) as same as Face Bar (opposite Mandarin Oriental) although they tone down alcohol display and music. Other stand alone venues I'm not sure about.Indonam,
Thanks for the update- I booked a trip for Aug 3-5, forgetting about Ramadan. Does anyone know if the bars in the Kota area, like Bintang Mewar, etc, will also be closed?
Friendly
Fast Eddie 48
07-24-12, 21:40
Haha. But seriously, if you tip the bar staff five or ten thou for your first drink, by the second, you'll be their friend. Just ask them if there's going to be a raid that night. They usually know. In fact, since they are the ones that usually sell whatever it is that the police are looking for, that's another clear signal: if nothing is available that night, it's usually because they are expecting a raid. I used to go there with a gang of friends, mixed bunch, about half Indonesians. One of them always used to call ahead and check with his mates there. I don't think raids ever happen there without the prior knowledge of management.To Gonzo two.
Oh well Paulb ask a dumb question and he got a dumb answer, if you keep your nose clean and don't carry any drug you should be ok, police Raid they are looking for drug and bust the drug pusher even the Management kno about the raid he wouldn't tell all the staff.
Fast Eddie 48
Member #4410
07-24-12, 21:57
Spent another two nights in Kota just before the start of Ramadan. Went to Hotel Travel both nights. And used my 'standard' procedure. Pick a girl, not a skinny one. And let her pick a companion. First night service was excellent. Wanted to have the same girls next night bu alas were occupied. Two others were also good.
During the daytime went to Blok M just to check it out. Jalan Falatehan is easily found from the busway end halt. But nothing going on there, as to be expected during the day. And the night activity is much too late for me.
No signs of Ramadan activity, unlike Solo where I was before.Lack of daytime activity in Jalan Pelatehan has nothing to do with Ramadan. The street is always dead during the day.
In daytime the only Blok M mongering activities can be deployed in Hotel Melawai (Maribaya Bar) and in the "Hookers Graveyard" (name escapes me as a result of late hour).
Regards,
Ko
I was been in Jakarta some days ago.
Berlion and Kartika are closed, and a man in front of them said: "Augustus!". If it is true, may be they don't work all Ramadan long.
Hotel Travel has the entrance door locked, but it is open and fully working: it needs enter by hotel. The girls wear jeans&t-shirts, but they work as usual.
Hi guys!
After having adventures in Russia, Ukraine and other Europe country I would like to try something new and different. Even I simply love EE dievuskas! So I thought Asia would be perfect of this matter.
The big question is where to go Philippines, Indonesia or Thailand? So I hope someone with a little experience can help me out.
The sunny beach is not a must for me. I also don't enjoy having st sex in bordellos or on street corner.
What I do like is total GFE (this is must for me). Also things like taking few drinks, talking, eating dinner together etc.
I also like comfortable hotels, quality strip clubs, bars and casinos with poker but the last one is not a must. I prefer girls with nice ass, breast no need to be big and not to low.
Any suggestions guys?
I also like comfortable hotels, quality strip clubs, bars and casinos with poker but the last one is not a must. I prefer girls with nice ass, breast no need to be big and not to low.
Any suggestions guys?To summarize 5 to 10 years of readily available and accessible posts on this forum, Jakarta does indeed have comfortable hotels. Also, no shortage of girls with nice asses and small-to-medium sized breasts. Suggestions? I'd suggest reading through some of the previous posts on this very forum to get a sense of how this wonderful city works and then, if you still need it, to come back with much more specific requests for information.
FreeLancester
07-25-12, 06:17
Hi There,
I'm playing with the thought of visiting Jakarta in the next few days, however, I'm still a little bit unsure.
As I was reading through your reports, I noticed that you mostly refered to girls which you booked for an hour or so.
But how about a whole night?
The following is my intention:
In the afternoon, I hire a taxi and I check out the different locations where the girls "work". After getting a rough overview, I book a nice, beautiful girl till next morning. I'm looking for a girl friend experience.
My intention:
I go out with her. We shop around. I take her out for dinner. And finally we end up in my hotel room and enjoy ourselves.
Is Jakarta the wrong place to do this stuff? How about during Ramadan?
Where do you advise me to go? Bangkok, Pattaya?
. And in the "Hookers Graveyard" (name escapes me as a result of late hour).
Regards,
KoBali Hai.
NO
Thanks for replay!
Jakarta indeed seems to have all my heart would desire. I do have ONE BIG concern tho and want to ask.
WG you guys find on Bats, Cj`s and etc. Now I got impression these girls come from very poor / uneducated background. For me good level of communication is very important, I don't say I need to have conversation with the girls about European economic crisis.
But I do want to have a normal conversation. Things like "no money, no honey baby" or "do you want bom bom" dose not do it for me. Hope I can have an answer on this. Since I rly don't know what to expect in asian scene.
My plan B.
I registered on indo cupid today and have found one smart and educated "possible girlfriend" during my stay in Jakarta. She have a high end job and dose not have any money concerns whatsoever.
Funny thing was she claims on her profile seeking just for friendship. We get a great conversation going and she tells me that she is avergine and will do this just with her future husband (I know not good). What became even bigger shock after this she wrote me I like sex and I need sex but just don't take away my virginity. I hope she did meen oral and anal so I can live with that.
So either way trip to Jakarta will it be.
Thanks for replay!
Funny thing was she claims on her profile seeking just for friendship. We get a great conversation going and she tells me that she is avergine and will do this just with her future husband (I know not good).Had this many times, and is just a way of maintaining a facade of respectability and letting you know that she is a "good girl." Mmmm, my favourite type and have had a handfull of these on permanent standby in Jakarta for a few years. Some of the best sex I have experienced, and these days I do not bother "hunting" at the usual Jakarta venues.
One of my favourite "good girls" has a good job, lives with mum & dad, and on her way home will drop into my hotel for session. On arrival she will drain me dry with a CIM BBBJ (she knows that by letting off the head of steam she is guaranteed of a good long pounding later) then its off to a nice place for dinner and a couple of glasses of wine. Then back to my hotel for a good round of sex. OK, its a routine and may not have the excitement of "the hunt," but is good quality sex, and she is usually on her way by 11 PM which means I get a decent nights sleep and can work the next today (yep, some of us need to earn a living).
Had this many times, and is just a way of maintaining a facade of respectability and letting you know that she is a "good girl."
I was chatting with a good girl on Asiandating earlier. A few days ago, she gave me the "good girl" routine. The next day, she sent me photos of her just wearing her bra and undies. Of course, she doesn't use her real name on Asiandating, but she sent me the images by email, which contains her real name. I googled and searched a few other forums, and for a good girl, she's pretty active. Haha. I'm the first guy she's ever chatted with on a forum like that, she said. Nope, she's never actually met a guy on a forum in real life before. Haha. Going to take her out later tonight.
The one bit I did believe was when she said she hates guys on the forum (see, we've already forgotten the bit about never having chatted on a forum before) talking to her about sex within the first few minutes of going online. Definitely don't ask them how much they charge for anal, or something like that. The ones I've met on Asiandating have never actually asked for or taken cold, hard cash, although the restaurants they like to be taken to charge twice as much for a bottle of wine as the cost of a shag down in Kota. At least you get to drink half of it.
In daytime the only Blok M mongering activities can be deployed in Hotel Melawai (Maribaya Bar) and in the "Hookers Graveyard" (name escapes me as a result of late hour).
Regards,
KoI think you mean My Place, also known as Bali Hai.
I also like comfortable hotels, quality strip clubs, bars and casinos with poker but the last one is not a must. I prefer girls with nice ass, breast no need to be big and not to low.
Any suggestions guys?Forget about gambling, unless you know an insider.
Cooze Hound
07-26-12, 11:35
I think you mean My Place, also known as Bali Hai.Which has now closed up permanently, according to my friend. I will check soon though as I drive past every day.
Which has now closed up permanently, according to my friend. I will check soon though as I drive past every day.Pretty sure that is true. I was told it will be renovated into a nicer "hotel." As to what that means I have no idea. It could be normal hotel. Or it could continue as a brothel.
Had this many times, and is just a way of maintaining a facade of respectability and letting you know that she is a "good girl." Mmmm, my favourite type and have had a handfull of these on permanent standby in Jakarta for a few years. Some of the best sex I have experienced, and these days I do not bother "hunting" at the usual Jakarta venues.
One of my favourite "good girls" has a good job, lives with mum & dad, and on her way home will drop into my hotel for session. On arrival she will drain me dry with a CIM BBBJ (she knows that by letting off the head of steam she is guaranteed of a good long pounding later) then its off to a nice place for dinner and a couple of glasses of wine. Then back to my hotel for a good round of sex. OK, its a routine and may not have the excitement of "the hunt," but is good quality sex, and she is usually on her way by 11 PM which means I get a decent nights sleep and can work the next today (yep, some of us need to earn a living).You just got to love it LOL! Just in two days this girl developed from "looking for friendship" and saving my self for my future husband to a sex starving women)
This is high educated chick who was claiming to be a very good girl) Now she is literally asking me to come and fuck her brains out. Discussing what kind of sex will we have and asking 100s of times if I think her body is good naff for me and if I promise her not to fuck other girls)
I have no experience with asian culture and women, but I guess this is a part of the tradision / religion just to have sex with the man you love. Or I might be wrong. Because even she totally change her attitude she still claims to be mother theresa. And that she only will have sex with the guy she loves LOL.
This is high educated chick who was claiming to be a very good girl) Now she is literally asking me to come and fuck her brains out. Discussing what kind of sex will we have and asking 100s of times if I think her body is good naff for me and if I promise her not to fuck other girls)I think there's a few things at work. The biggest thing is that they want you to talk to them nicely and not treat them like they think men treat kampung hookers. If you show them that "treating with respect" and "having casual sex with" are not mutually exclusive, they are all for it. Then, they really are looking for a husband, if they can find someone who will sign up. If they thought that not putting out was the way to get one, they'd definitely keep you waiting. My usual MO with the dating sites is to meet up with 'them, then tell them, with a touch of sorrow, that I feel that I'm just not suited for the matrimonial state, but they seem really nice and I wouldn't mind staying in touch, meeting for a cup of coffee, chatting every now and again. Just as friends. Strictly platonic. Usually melts their hearts, they usually decide that there's no need to emphasize the "no physical contact" rule, and the game is on. I'm quite happy to wait for the second meeting before getting a shag, but maybe I'm a slow worker, some people here seem to get it on the first time as a matter of course.
After doing some reading on Asia forum I am starting to get an impression of what to expect in different destinations. But still its hard to determine which would be the best place to go to for my first visit in Asia.
Now I am thinking to go to one of the places for two weeks period. As I wrote in previous post I am more of a long term guy for whom GFE are important, professionalism, comfortable hotel, some nice cafes and dining places.
So after weighing my options I came up with two destinations that I think would probably sue me which are Bangkok or Jakarta.
Now from these two places where would you say is higher quality of the girls, where is more lt GFE possible.
Jakarta seems to have terrible traffic making it hard to come places for a noob and things are more spread but got things for different taste and price. Bangkok p4p scene seems to be huge where you got a red light districts for foreigners making it look like and easy travel destination for a first time traveler.
So taking in consideration my needs and that I would go for two weeks, first time traveler to Asia. What would you think guy would be better choice?
PattayaTony
07-27-12, 13:05
After doing some reading on Asia forum I am starting to get an impression of what to expect in different destinations.
So taking in consideration my needs and that I would go for two weeks, first time traveler to Asia. What would you think guy would be better choice?Jakartas extremely dangerous, hotels are not value for money, immigration staff at airport hassle western travellers, I've been to jakarta once and couldn't stomach the place and left after 3 days, but can easily handle Thailand no pompem!
Traveler1234
07-27-12, 13:08
Your analysis is dead on. For a newbie to mongering in Asia, LOS is a much easier place to navigate. More central pink zones, you can easily get around by BTS / foot to most of all the hot spots [although if you're into soapies, need a taxi at times]. And getting laid is as easy as ordering room service [literally!].
For those with more experience and a little bit of Bahasa, Jakarta remains the place to go. But you need to know your way around the city, deal with traffic, and a little bit of patience. I prefer the women here, little less commercial but that's my own personal opinion. Also I was fortunate to live here for several years back in early '90's.
For your first trip, I'd suggest Bangkok and Pattaya (or Philippines, where English is spoken everywhere). But keep in mind two weeks in one place is an awful long time, no? You do have enough time to spend few days in Bkk, few days in Pattaya (where I haven't been in over 30 yrs), and then take a short hop over to Jkt? If you do head to Jkt, set up with JAD first for one of his 'tours'...well worth the time and money.
Member #4537
07-27-12, 13:09
As I wrote in previous post I am more of a long term guy for whom GFE are important, professionalism, comfortable hotel, some nice cafes and dining places.My advice would be to stay in Europe.
Your analysis is dead on. For a newbie to mongering in Asia, LOS is a much easier place to navigate. More central pink zones, you can easily get around by BTS / foot to most of all the hot spots [although if you're into soapies, need a taxi at times]. And getting laid is as easy as ordering room service [literally! ].
For those with more experience and a little bit of Bahasa, Jakarta remains the place to go. But you need to know your way around the city, deal with traffic, and a little bit of patience. I prefer the women here, little less commercial but that's my own personal opinion. Also I was fortunate to live here for several years back in early '90's.
For your first trip, I'd suggest Bangkok and Pattaya (or Philippines, where English is spoken everywhere). But keep in mind two weeks in one place is an awful long time, no? You do have enough time to spend few days in BKK, few days in Pattaya (where I haven't been in over 30 yrs) , and then take a short hop over to Jakarta? If you do head to Jakarta, set up with JAD first for one of his 'tours'. Well worth the time and money.Thank you for informative feedback!
Yes you are right, I do like an idea of not just staying in one place for two weeks, since it might get very monotone. Think I will go for two / three week tour BKK to start with, then Pattaya since I read that buses departure every 30 min and its only abut 130km between places. And will head towards either Philippines or Jakarta. Still need to think what is more convenient traveling from Pattaya. Good thing is in this way I will gain more experience of Asia scene and will know better what to expect.
Member #4698
07-27-12, 15:39
Thank you for informative feedback!
Think I will go for two / three week tour BKK to start with, then Pattaya since I read that buses departure every 30 min and its only abut 130km between places. And will head towards either Philippines or Jakarta. Still need to think what is more convenient traveling from Pattaya.Tiger Air has flights from Phuket to Jakarta with a short stop in Singapore. It's very convenient to fly from Phuket to Jakarta one way and Jakarta to BKK the other way. Air Asia has non stops BKK to Jakarta. Tiger and Cebu Pacific have round trips BKK to AC.
Three weeks makes for a very good itinerary. I recommend roughly a week in 3 destinations of your choosing. I don't think you should try to spread yourself out too thin and try for 4 destinations. Basically you can flip a coin about Jakarta or AC. Both destinations have plenty of girls and won't disappoint. It is a matter of personal taste as to which is better. AC has practically no learning curve for a newbie. Girls are super friendly and speak English. All the bars are located on one long street. It is comparable to Pattaya in this regard. Jakarta on the other hand is a far more complex and a more interesting major city. Jakarta girls are pretty spectacular and the food is great. Jakarta is comparable to BKK. AC and Pattaya are cheaper than BKK and Jakarta. If you only have two weeks, then stay in LOS and spit your time between BKK and Pattaya.
Here is an idea of 2 sample trips: Plan 1. BKK 3 days. Pattaya 6 days. Jakarta 6 days. BKK 6 days. Or Plan 2. BKK 4 days. AC. 5 days. Pattaya 6 days. BKK 7 days. If you prefer resort towns over cities then spend a more days in Pattaya over BKK and forget about Jakarta and visit AC.
There is no bad choice among these 4 destinations. They are all insane! Yet they are all very different. You are going to have the time of your life.
Tiger Air has flights from Phuket to Jakarta with a short stop in Singapore. It's very convenient to fly from Phuket to Jakarta one way and Jakarta to BKK the other way. Air Asia has non stops BKK to Jakarta. Tiger and Cebu Pacific have round trips BKK to AC.
Three weeks makes for a very good itinerary. I recommend roughly a week in 3 destinations of your choosing. I don't think you should try to spread yourself out too thin and try for 4 destinations. Basically you can flip a coin about Jakarta or AC. Both destinations have plenty of girls and won't disappoint. It is a matter of personal taste as to which is better. AC has practically no learning curve for a newbie. Girls are super friendly and speak English. All the bars are located on one long street. It is comparable to Pattaya in this regard. Jakarta on the other hand is a far more complex and a more interesting major city. Jakarta girls are pretty spectacular and the food is great. Jakarta is comparable to BKK. AC and Pattaya are cheaper than BKK and Jakarta. If you only have two weeks, then stay in LOS and spit your time between BKK and Pattaya.
Here is an idea of 2 sample trips: Plan 1. BKK 3 days. Pattaya 6 days. Jakarta 6 days. BKK 6 days. Or Plan 2. BKK 4 days. AC. 5 days. Pattaya 6 days. BKK 7 days. If you prefer resort towns over cities then spend a more days in Pattaya over BKK and forget about Jakarta and visit AC.
There is no bad choice among these 4 destinations. They are all insane! Yet they are all very different. You are going to have the time of your life.Very informative and great post, so thank you!
I can't wait to enter Asian soil for the first time in my life and explore some of what Asia has to offer. Either it will be two or three weeks I am sure I will have a great time.
Y few days in Pattaya (where I haven't been in over 30 yrs)You need to visit Pattaya again. It's far nicer than it was years ago. The improvements just in the last 10 years are pretty remarkable. If I were a rookie sex tourist, I'd head straight to Pattaya and stay there for the full 2 weeks. Hell, even living in Jakarta over 10 years, I would probably rate Pattaya as the best place in the world to go. The only problem is it's not as cheap as places like Angeles City or Cambodia when it comes to prices for the girls. But it's so comfortable staying there with all of the conveniences, I think it's worth the more expensive price the girls charge. Still cheaper than Bangkok or Jakarta.
Traveler1234
07-28-12, 19:23
You need to visit Pattaya again. It's far nicer than it was years ago.LOL! Unfortunately there is no way I can 'sneak' off for even 48 hours. My wife stayed in BKK with me for 3 months couple of years back and her girlfriends own some legit spas there. So if I was ever to find an excuse to visit, she'd wonder why I wouldn't stay at her friend's place. In my next life. :D
Member #4410
07-28-12, 23:52
Jakartas extremely dangerous, hotels are not value for money, immigration staff at airport hassle western travellers, I've been to jakarta once and couldn't stomach the place and left after 3 days, but can easily handle Thailand no pompem!Immigration at Cengkareng (Jakarta airport) is completely hassle free. Pay the USD 25 (or EUR 20) charge for Visa on Arrival, take the receipt to the second desk for your visa and get in one of the queues for immigration. If you were hassled you probably behaved like an ass. In over 20 years of regular entry I was never hassled. Whatever gave you the idea that Jakarta is dangerous, or even extremely dangerous, is a mystery to me (and I expext to many regular visitors). Hotels are what you select. They vary from 0-star to 5 star + with accompanying price rates. Value for money is in the eye of the beholder. One negative side of Jakarta: traffic."If you're not in a traffic jam, you're not in Jakarta".
But if you are happy in Thailand, goood for you. More Indonesian girls for the rest.
Regards,
Ko
PattayaTony
07-29-12, 02:25
Immigration at Cengkareng (Jakarta airport) is completely hassle free. Pay the USD 25 (or EUR 20) charge for Visa on Arrival, take the receipt to the second desk for your visa and get in one of the queues for immigration. If you were hassled you probably behaved like an ass. In over 20 years of regular entry I was never hassled. Whatever gave you the idea that Jakarta is dangerous, or even extremely dangerous, is a mystery to me (and I expext to many regular visitors). Hotels are what you select. They vary from 0-star to 5 star + with accompanying price rates. Value for money is in the eye of the beholder. One negative side of Jakarta: traffic."If you're not in a traffic jam, you're not in Jakarta".
But if you are happy in Thailand, goood for you. More Indonesian girls for the rest.
Regards,
KoImmigration hassled every westerner on my plane, other westerners next to me even pointed out to me how much trouble it was, one guy was held up for over 20 minutes and had to make a cellphone call to get through, for me the pen I used wasnt blue enough and I had to write out the card again and of course I was grilled with stupid questions. I suggest you travel a bit more around asia and see how hassle free other countrys are.
Yes jakarta is dangerous, some dirty fucker tryed to rip my back pockets off, in broad daylight, I suggest you read western governments travel safety websites a bit more and use google a bit as they all back me up and say safety is a issue in Indonesia.
Friends,
I am planning a trip to Jakarta from SIN (where I have a 2. 5 days stopover) enroute my final destination.
With reading pages from Jakarta & Batam threads, I am up with some questions.
1) Tickets from SIN to CGK on Aug 26th (Sunday) are very expensive ( 300-400 USD) , any suggestions?
2) I read at places (forgot whether it was Batam or Jakarta thread) that one can get 24 hour LT gals. Can someone re-point me to that info / places where I can do so, pref. In Jakarta?
3) Been talking to a couple gals from Jakarta who work in their daytime but would love to F* around in off hours, do you think it would be safe to indulge with any such ones found on DIA? In particular, getting them to my hotel room, etc?
4) Do you guys have your favorite places in Jakarta where you have had the highest GFE-hit ratio?
5) Can I expect all sexual activities in Hotel Classic & Hotel Travel alone? Or should I look for other places?
Remember, this is my first time to Indo. So any good sampling would be fine.
Regards,
-R.
In over 20 years of regular entry I was never hassled. Whatever gave you the idea that Jakarta is dangerous, or even extremely dangerous, is a mystery to me (and I expext to many regular visitors).About 15 years ago, I regularly used to get minor grief for having too many Indonesian stamps in my passport and a lot of requests for a ten dollar donation. I've got much better documents these days, but even so, I haven't heard of anything like that happening for well over a decade. If you are from a developed nation, the only money you will be asked for is for official fees (I hear it's different for African and Chinese passport holders). Jakarta is "extremely dangerous"? Pffffft. What words would you use to describe Brazzaville, or even Dar es Salaam or Nairobi, then? It may be slightly less user friendly than Bangkok for a completely inexperienced traveler, but the worst most people suffer is a slightly padded taxi fee. Even then, it's been years since I've had a real "argo kuda" problem or even a taxi driver deliberately going a really long way around (some drivers don't know the city as well as they should, it must be said, even Blue Bird has it's share of drivers just in from Indramayu. Most of them will ask you if you know how to direct them where you want to go, if that's the case. Poor bastards, I feel a bit sorry for them, I always wonder if they are going to make it safely back to the base in time).
Primo Bolan
07-29-12, 12:27
Jakartas extremely dangerous, hotels are not value for money, immigration staff at airport hassle western travellers, I've been to jakarta once and couldn't stomach the place and left after 3 days, but can easily handle Thailand no pompem!Are you serious? Take a look at Crime News Pattaya. As a westerner I feel that Jakarta is a very safe and friendly place if comparing to P.
PB
Recently spent a weekend in Jakarta. Must say that despite Ramadan this place does allow for a fantastic mongering weekend:
Friday evening: started off at Top Gun in Block M. Decent band and quite some *lookers around. But many of them had hilarious price expectations: was quoted IDR 1. 5mn for s / t. After some beers over the street to D's P. Which is a very interesting venue. Front part is a Sportsbar with various activities, in the back part a separate room caters to more intimate activities starting at IDR 100k; an experience not to be missed, highly recommended *. (PM me is further details are needed). A few attractive girls next to some more average looking ones. After experiencing some good services time to bid farewell and move down the road to MyBar, which get's active post 12 am (during Ramadan closes at 1:30am). The quality of girls was similar to Top Gun, but (possibly also later hour) the price level in a different league and all seemed to be more friendly, more in a party mode. Also good band, had a great time and s / t take out ended up being only IDR 500k all in. Very enjoyable time with a stunner, who knew how to perform.
Saturday: Evening activities started at Hotel Classic, again a *very interesting *venue. Forget what is on Floor 1 (said to be a total rip-off) , Floor 3 (if I remember correctly) is what you are looking. A huge hall with an un-imaginable selection of beauties (and some less so, but all in the 20. 30yr range I wld guess). Very pushy Mama-sans, but they do get the message if you want to go slower on the selection process. Quality is great. Maybe my friend and I simply got*very lucky. And prices very reasonable at below IDR 300 (incl. Room and protective gear). Had a great looking 20 yr old, excellent GFE experience (cannot forget her cfm look at me while she was blowing me.) with the works in a modern decent room with shower. Very well spent IDR's, this was real value for money. Rest of the evening again in Top Gun, which was a bit disappointing as the ratio of below average ladies was far too high compared to other venues and those who did have the looks behaved like bitches. Which they probably are. Finished off again at MyBar with a s / t take out with a friend of the previous night's babe, who again did know the art of performance.
Jakarta during Ramadan might be slightly slower and bars might be closing a bit earlier than normal, but this activity beats many other places anytime of the year. Always provided you are into the Indonesian / Malay looking type gals.
To some earlier mails on Indonesia hassels. I have been to Indonesia countless times, never had any really noteworthy negative experience; but hey this is Southeast Asia and at the end of the day you never know. If you can't take it, simply stay home and leave the beauties to those who like this place.
John Aldrich
07-29-12, 18:21
Every year, when Maribaya closes for Ramadan, a few girls take rooms in Melawai and operate from there. I normally went to Maribaya on the last day and connected with those girls who tend to rent rooms and take their HP numbers and give them mine. They would then sms me the room numbers. It was mongering as usual for me in Maribaya even during the holidays. But, this time, unfortunately, I have had to be away from Jakarta for a longer time on account of being deputed to some God forsaken country for the past 4 months. Just landed today. Obviously could not connect to any girl in Maribaya to know their room numbers. I have an option of going to Melawai and finding out the details from the guys down and will be led there. But, the girls would have to pay commission to those guys. I would not want want the girls to loose out, since they are staying back during holidays to make some extra buck for their families.
In the past, I used to PM the details to regulars. But, this year I have to be dependant on our friends on the board here. Would anyone know the room numbers or have the HP numbers of the girls operating from there. Would appreciate if you could PM me the details.
Cheers
John Aldrich
07-29-12, 18:24
Immigration hassled every westerner on my plane, other westerners next to me even pointed out to me how much trouble it was, one guy was held up for over 20 minutes and had to make a cellphone call to get through, for me the pen I used wasnt blue enough and I had to write out the card again and of course I was grilled with stupid questions. I suggest you travel a bit more around asia and see how hassle free other countrys are.
Yes jakarta is dangerous, some dirty fucker tryed to rip my back pockets off, in broad daylight, I suggest you read western governments travel safety websites a bit more and use google a bit as they all back me up and say safety is a issue in Indonesia.Yes. You are obviously right. Please do not venture out into Jakarta. Its not a place to be in. Getting girls is very difficult. And hunting for mongering places is an ardous task. You may not get any girl. Suggest Pattaya is better off. Jakarta is not a friendly place and the people are not friendly. Neither are the girls. Nor are their any bars or pubs.
.friday evening: started off at top gun in block m. decent band and quite some *lookers around. but many of them had hilarious price expectations: was quoted idr 1. 5mn for s / t. after some beers over the street to d's p. which is a very interesting venue. front part is a sportsbar with various activities, in the back part a separate room caters to more intimate activities starting at idr 100k; an experience not to be missed, highly recommended *.................to some earlier mails on indonesia hassels: i have been to indonesia countless times, never had any really noteworthy negative experience; but hey this is southeast asia and at the end of the day you never know. if you can't take it, simply stay home and leave the beauties to those who like this place.
maybe you look like a newbe or you met a selfoverrating chick. as a regular visitor to jakarta (and top gun & d's place) i pay 300 k for short time (2 or 3 hours) and 500 k for long time (all night) plus 50 k taximoney. the girls know and accept that (except some girls with star allures). ....................about the horrors of jakarta: i also have been to indonesia countless times, i realy look very caucasian with blond hair (what is left) and my worst experience was that i had to have a girl removed by security that anticipated on vomiting on my clean shirt.
yes. you are obviously right. please do not venture out into jakarta. its not a place to be in. getting girls is very difficult. and hunting for mongering places is an ardous task. you may not get any girl. suggest pattaya is better off. jakarta is not a friendly place and the people are not friendly. neither are the girls. nor are their any bars or pubs.
i absolutely agree with john, please don't come to indonesia, too dangerous and absolutely not fit for mongoring foreigners (leave the place to us :) ).
have fun,
no
Member #4698
07-29-12, 19:51
Yes. You are obviously right. Please do not venture out into Jakarta. Its not a place to be in. Getting girls is very difficult. And hunting for mongering places is an ardous task. You may not get any girl. Suggest Pattaya is better off. Jakarta is not a friendly place and the people are not friendly. Neither are the girls. Nor are their any bars or pubs.
Maybe you look like a newbe or you met a selfoverrating chick. As a regular visitor to Jakarta (and Top Gun & D's place) I pay 300 K for short time (2 or 3 hours) and 500 K for long time (all night) plus 50 K taximoney.I absolutely agree with John, please don't come to Indonesia, too dangerous and absolutely not fit for mongoring foreigners (leave the place to us :) ). Have fun,Ha! Hide all the women in town! Natty (Bangkok) Bumpo is coming to the big durian. And I am looking forward to it.
Captain Beefheart: "Better watch out there's ah man eater around. Hide all the women in town. When it blows its stacks."
Friends,
I am planning a trip to Jakarta from SIN (where I have a 2. 5 days stopover) enroute my final destination.
With reading pages from Jakarta & Batam threads, I am up with some questions.
1) Tickets from SIN to CGK on Aug 26th (Sunday) are very expensive (300-400 USD) , any suggestions?
2) I read at places (forgot whether it was Batam or Jakarta thread) that one can get 24 hour LT gals. Can someone re-point me to that info / places where I can do so, pref. In Jakarta?
3) Been talking to a couple gals from Jakarta who work in their daytime but would love to F* around in off hours, do you think it would be safe to indulge with any such ones found on DIA? In particular, getting them to my hotel room, etc?
4) Do you guys have your favorite places in Jakarta where you have had the highest GFE-hit ratio?
5) Can I expect all sexual activities in Hotel Classic & Hotel Travel alone? Or should I look for other places?
Remember, this is my first time to Indo. So any good sampling would be fine.
Regards,
-R.Indeed prices are high on all airlines around that date. Take the metro from Changi airport and then the ferry to Batam and use Lion Air to fly to Jakarta for around 1mil IDR, s on same day.
Or stay overnight at Batam for a lower rate on the next day. About 600k. Use that difference to hire an overnight gal at Batam. Believe me it's very easy and straight forward to get to Batam. You'll need about 2, 5 to 3 hrs from the airport.
Forget DIA girls for such a short time and stick to Hotel Travel and Hotel Classic 3rd floor up the mechanical escalator (not ground floor) for afternoon delights. They used to have a promo for a 3some around 400k at Classic.
Use the other venues described here for the evening / night activities. Do not expect to find the woman of your life in only 2 days. Simply enjoy cheap and easy sex.
Next time I'll charge you for such info! LOL
I truly, honestly appreciate your response. I owe you one for sure!
The route you suggest to get to Jakarta looks interesting. Doesn't sound as pale as flying in a plane. Looks like I will do that!
It could be just me, but did not realize that the Hotel Travel & Classic are closed at nights. Is that really so?
Or are you simply suggesting I go to the other venues for the LT fun?
Thanks again!
-R.
Indeed prices are high on all airlines around that date. Take the metro from Changi airport and then the ferry to Batam and use Lion Air to fly to Jakarta for around 1mil IDR, s on same day.
Or stay overnight at Batam for a lower rate on the next day. About 600k. Use that difference to hire an overnight gal at Batam. Believe me it's very easy and straight forward to get to Batam. You'll need about 2, 5 to 3 hrs from the airport.
Forget DIA girls for such a short time and stick to Hotel Travel and Hotel Classic 3rd floor up the mechanical escalator (not ground floor) for afternoon delights. They used to have a promo for a 3some around 400k at Classic.
Use the other venues described here for the evening / night activities. Do not expect to find the woman of your life in only 2 days. Simply enjoy cheap and easy sex.
Next time I'll charge you for such info! LOL
I truly, honestly appreciate your response. I owe you one for sure!
The route you suggest to get to Jakarta looks interesting. Doesn't sound as pale as flying in a plane. Looks like I will do that!
It could be just me, but did not realize that the Hotel Travel & Classic are closed at nights. Is that really so?
Or are you simply suggesting I go to the other venues for the LT fun?
Thanks again!
-R.Try Jl Palatahan in Blok M. A string of bars with many girls, that are willing to stay the night (or even longer) with you in your hotel and start with Ds Place or with Top Gun. Just tell them straight away that you are not in for short time. Come to good agreements about price and duration, pay in the morning, because otherwise some familymember might get ill during the night (500 to 700 K for LT until breakfast after some negotiations is fine)
Have fun,
NO
MrBill1963
07-30-12, 15:24
Every year, when Maribaya closes for Ramadan, a few girls take rooms in Melawai and operate from there. I normally went to Maribaya on the last day and connected with those girls who tend to rent rooms and take their HP numbers and give them mine. They would then sms me the room numbers. It was mongering as usual for me in Maribaya even during the holidays. But, this time, unfortunately, I have had to be away from Jakarta for a longer time on account of being deputed to some God forsaken country for the past 4 months. Just landed today. Obviously could not connect to any girl in Maribaya to know their room numbers. I have an option of going to Melawai and finding out the details from the guys down and will be led there. But, the girls would have to pay commission to those guys. I would not want want the girls to loose out, since they are staying back during holidays to make some extra buck for their families.
In the past, I used to PM the details to regulars. But, this year I have to be dependant on our friends on the board here. Would anyone know the room numbers or have the HP numbers of the girls operating from there. Would appreciate if you could PM me the details.
CheersI have a few room numbers and hp numbers, PM if interested
Thanks NO. That is useful info!
I will follow your tips. Since you have quoted the LT price, let me ask. How much barfine should I expect to pay?
Also - is it safe to venture in that area in late evening / night time? And take a taxi from there to my hotel in Central Jakarta?
Try Jl Palatahan in Blok M. A string of bars with many girls, that are willing to stay the night (or even longer) with you in your hotel and start with Ds Place or with Top Gun. Just tell them straight away that you are not in for short time. Come to good agreements about price and duration, pay in the morning, because otherwise some familymember might get ill during the night (500 to 700 K for LT until breakfast after some negotiations is fine)
Have fun,
NO
Cooze Hound
07-31-12, 07:55
Pretty sure that is true. I was told it will be renovated into a nicer "hotel." As to what that means I have no idea. It could be normal hotel. Or it could continue as a brothel.Speaking of Hotels, the owner of Top Gun is constructing a hotel on the corner where Oscar's used to be on Paletahan. Or so he tells me. I have noticed a building rising there so time will shortly tell.
Rabame (?) no bar fines for the girls in Blok M as they are freelancers.
And on the Immigration hassle front, a couple of guys have mentioned a particular younger officer on the immigration counter after VOA whom does all he can to thwart admission. Asking for proof of money, air ticket back out etc.
Thanks NO. That is useful info!
I will follow your tips. Since you have quoted the LT price, let me ask. How much barfine should I expect to pay?
Also. Is it safe to venture in that area in late evening / night time? And take a taxi from there to my hotel in Central Jakarta?Indeed, no bar fines in Blok M. All girls are independant entrepreneurs. The only additional cost (if the girl performed satisfactory) is to give her 50 000 rups ($5-) extra for a taxi home as a courtesy. On the way to your hotel: do not take the taxi's in Jl Palatehan but ask at the bar of D's Place or Top Gun to call for a Blue Bird taxi. Or walk out of the street (against the traffic) and turn right. There are generally some Blue Birds and Silver Birds waiting.
Jl Palatehan is very safe, but to go to your hotel after midnight I strongly advise to take a cab. Price to central Jakarta hotels: between 20 000 and 40 000 rups by Blue Bird and 200 000 to 400 000 if you take a non metered cab waiting outside the bars. Moreover you have to pay the parking guy in Palatehan 2 000 rups ;) so keep some small money ready and remember, if you have a white skin, taxidrivers never can change large bills and you better have some smaller bills in your pocket.
Have fun,
NO
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