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Traveler1234
05-14-07, 16:40
Many of the girls will also try to turn you into a boyfriend. And trust me, you will spend so much more money on this new "girlfriend" than if you had just paid her 1 Juta for each pop.

Totally agree.

I'm old school and said it a million times. Nothing is free, even Charles Sheen and Brad Pitt pay ;)

Better to leave taxi money and keep it arms length. Too freakin many hot ones around to be tied to a freebie!

Smoothy
05-14-07, 22:04
If you want a free challenge then don't go to bats, try something harder like Dragon Fly and see if you can pick up an actress, now thats a standard to set.

If someone picks up a girl from Dragon Fly and gets a "freebie" from her, that is a different story altogether. I have a feeling you won't see many posts of guys getting "freebies" from there. That would be impressive.

Taking advantage of a girl from one of the "chicken" spots like Bats, CJ's, 30 or Blok M is nothing to brag about. I really feel it just causes the girls to eventually negotiate up front and spoils it for the rest of us. I try not to go with the girls who negotiate up front. But I can understand why they do it these days.


Most of the time, if she is in it for the money, she will allude to $$$ at the end of the session.

Most times I will not repeat with a girl if she even mentions money after the session. I find that the girls who don't ask for money are always the best for GFE. Many times I'll walk the girl down to the taxi without giving her any money just to see if she says anything. I'll then hug her goodbye and slip her some money. If she didn't complain about money up to that point, I consider them a girl I'll take a second time. Like I mentioned before, that still happens about 50% of the time with the girls I take home. (I will admit that I'm selective at the bars and that the number of girls overall who ask for money is more than 50% now. I'm referring to the ones who I actually end up taking home.) Unfortunately, it used to be almost 90% who didn't ask for money 7 years ago. But back then I didn't need to do the taxi test. It was just a fact that the girls didn't mention money - with rare exceptions.

There are a few girls who have a sugar daddy who will go with guys for free. But it's pretty easy to pick those girls out after you've talked to them a bit. Those girls are bad news anyway and I avoid them. For someone visiting town for a week, they are fine. But if you live in Jakarta, you are asking for trouble going with those girls.

I look forward to some reports of guys getting freebies from the hotties at Dragon Fly....

Menteng
05-14-07, 22:52
If you want a free challenge then don't go to bats, try something harder like Dragon Fly and see if you can pick up an actress, now thats a standard to set.

Oh, yes! In the morning she said:"I have no shooting these couple of days and frankly I can not be seen with you here in Jakarta, so let's go to KL. There is this nice hotel, Palace Of Golden Horses, where they have Rolls Royces at the guest's disposal and the shops at KLCC are great! Better than those at Plaza Indonesia".

Well it is said before. There are no freebies!

Mighty Spearsman
05-15-07, 03:58
Kartika is at Jalan Hayum Wuruk No. 114/32
Phone 639 7211
Open 11am to 11pm

There are two shifts, day and evening although I reckon many girls hang around all day there.

Two mamasans work there, one each shift. Ibu Yayuk is the best. Tell her exactly what you want and she will suggest a few options.

Once I decided to not take her advice and chose my own girl.

As I climbed the stairs with my chosen girl, 'Yuni' a lovely tall thing from Ciribon, I glanced over my shoulder and saw Bu Yayuk standing at the bar staring at me with a frown on her face.

Yuni turned out to be like the 'Ciribon Express' and when I returned to the bar less than an hour later Bu Yayuk came up to me and whispered in my ear "She was very fast wasn't she? Next time take my advice." Spot on Bu!

If you phone Kartika you better be able to speak Indonesian otherwise you will be wasting your rupiah.

And if you do meet up with Bu Yayuk, please give her a tip too. Rp20K will put a big smile on her face and she will look after you like your mum!

'Silahkan'

I telephoned Kartika the other day to see if my favorite would be there during my upcoming visit to Jakarta. I spoke with the mamasan and asked about 'Tuti' and she said which one, number 25 or 43?

It got me thinking now - how to solve the mystery/identity of the famous 'Cynthia' seeing there are more than one Cynthia that works there.

Anyone know her (the original Cynthia's) number so I can at least have the pleasure of inspection on my next visit?
Some interesting new posts by Bebek about Kartika, my all-time favorite MP in Jakarta.

Bebek, there is only one female named Cynthia working at Kartika, although several other girls may pretend to be "Cynthia," especially if she's upstairs with a client or not on duty. So don't ask the girls "where's Cynthia today?," instead ask the mamasan or the guy behind the payment counter (towards the back, just before the stairs and the men's room) for "Cynthia, Number 90" and you'll get the real Cynthia, if she's available.

A place like Maribaya (Hotel Melawai 6th floor) has a fairly rigid "two shifts" schedule, with a changeover at 5 p.m. from the day to the evening shift. Most evening shift girls arrive just before 5 p.m., and virtually every day shift girl is gone by 5:30 p.m. unless she's with a client.

But Kartika's "two shift" schedule is much more fluid, with the girls wandering in between 12 Noon and 3 p.m. and virtually all there until 9:30 p.m. or so. And although closing time is 11 p.m., the place is usually empty by 10:30 pm if not earlier, so a monger needs to arrive by 9:30 p.m. to guarantee a session with one of the better girls.

Nothing wrong with tipping the mamasan. I also suggest tipping the towel lady upstairs 5,000 rupiah, especially if you plan to be a repeat customer here. All of the folks working here have extremely good and extremely long memories!

Speaking of memories, I had a two-girl session with Cynthia and Sonia in mid-February 2005. After two other visits later that month (neither of them with Sonia), I then went back to the US and did not visit Kartika again until December 2005 (10 months later) and was shocked when a smiling Sonia (# 146, one of the few Chinese girls working there) came up to me and said "Hi, XXX" using my real name, and asked if I would have a session with her. More recently, I saw Rista (# 115, just back from time off to have a baby, but her pussy is still tight) for the first time since February 2005 and she also remembered my name. Amazing!

Mandiri
05-15-07, 04:07
A note to Asian Rain: Wear a condom.Most the girls I see with your pics have given my friends clyamidia and not to mention other stuff.Interesting, now it's chlamydia. I reported a few months ago a case of genital Herpes in Blok M -- most likely uncapped BJ. So keen BBBJ-ers, do so at your own risks now in Blok M. So we now have reports of herpes, chlamydia in the Blok M area, anything else, guys ?

Be safe!

Mandiri
05-15-07, 04:24
No offense Mandiri, I too once used to do what u did, i.e. free shag with glee, but it doesnt go too far.

I completely agree with Smoothly that its good to try take a judgement call if they are in for the cash, rather than wait to hear from them or make them change their style the next time around. Of course we dont want to offend the ones who dont want money, but will definitely make the ones who do need money regret ever going out with you. Mostly, one can get a sense of that after a night filled with conjoined loins and lips?

besides, the ones who are not in for the money have tell-tale signs that they already have a sugar daddy and are in just for the fun. They may have a car, expensive cellphones, clothes, jewellery, etc that she cant really afford peddling her ass for 300K thrice a week. In my experience, they are mainly married or have a boyfriend out of town and looking for stress relief or hunting a new boyfriend. There are plenty like these, but are the choosy/picky ones ( a good indicator by itself, compared to the ones who are easy to hook). If u get one of these, u will get PLENTY of hints that they are not the P4P types from the conversation (if u have time for that!)

There's no such thing as a free lunch... You will only not pay the first time. And its people like us who play a role in making them think commercial or remain GFE, something that used to be unique only to Indonesia and is fast diminishing.

My standard policy is, try and get a sense if the girl wants something or not, and then decide on taking her back or not.Totally agree with you, Zackforfun. 90% of my freebies are from girls looking to have fun (or/and having a good job/benefactor), the rest is from FL/WG or girls on the border who happen to give me a freebie.

And again, I agree that in the Blok M's Jalan Falatehan area, whether asked or not, the rate os 300-400k, no discussion.

Master Diver II
05-15-07, 04:43
Oh, yes! In the morning she said:"I have no shooting these couple of days and frankly I can not be seen with you here in Jakarta, so let's go to KL. There is this nice hotel, Palace Of Golden Horses, where they have Rolls Royces at the guest's disposal and the shops at KLCC are great! Better than those at Plaza Indonesia".

Well it is said before. There are no freebies!

Spot on! But a lot of them are going for Hilton, Meridien, Westin, Mandarin Oriental now - more convenient:). Not that I fell into this trap but you do see quite a few Indonesian stunners now and then at KLCC (accompanied protectively by their companions) - how did you find out Menteng?:D

MD II

Smoothy
05-15-07, 05:04
So we now have reports of herpes, chlamydia in the Blok M area, anything else, guys?

Definitely stay safe. Sexual diseases are finally starting to become prevalent on the block. I think the internet and sex tourism is mostly to blame.

Menteng
05-15-07, 10:48
Spot on! But a lot of them are going for Hilton, Meridien, Westin, Mandarin Oriental now - more convenient:). Not that I fell into this trap but you do see quite a few Indonesian stunners now and then at KLCC (accompanied protectively by their companions) - how did you find out Menteng?:D

MD II

You're right MDII. The location of Golden Horses is not ideal, and the shopping center at Mines (?) is nothing compared to KLCC. Maybe she has been there before and was impressed by the lake and the beach, not to mention the special means of transportation.

I met this "actress" (I don't consider a girl, reading out phrases in one of the countless Indonesian soap-series, an actress) at Club 27 in blok M. The Club doesn't exist anymore, but, do I have memories of the place!

Kodja
05-15-07, 11:54
Some interesting new posts by Bebek about Kartika, my all-time favorite MP in Jakarta.In the vicinity of Kartika and Berlian are several other MPs I have heard about but have never visited. Has anyone tried these situated in the surrounding lanes of Kartika?

Hawai Massage, Melinda massage, Tin Tin Massage and Maharaja Massage.

Joel Goodsen
05-15-07, 12:41
Interesting, now it's chlamydia. I reported a few months ago a case of genital Herpes in Blok M -- most likely uncapped BJ. So keen BBBJ-ers, do so at your own risks now in Blok M. So we now have reports of herpes, chlamydia in the Blok M area, anything else, guys ?

Be safe!
There have always been reports of Chlamydia in the blok, it seems to be endemic to pro area's as it is so easily transmitted.. Herpes cases I have not heard about before but it won't be surprising as it seems to be on the rise worldwide, some countries are currently active campaigning against it.

I don't visit the blok too often anymore but in 2005 there were 2 cases of the slims, i know about. Both were drug users that also frequented the Kota area, one passed away, I don't know of the fate of the other one... so yes pls be safe!

Joel Goodsen
05-15-07, 12:43
See my response on the subject to Smoothy. I have been in Jakarta for about 2 years, so I am well aware of the local circumstances that you describe, thanks.
Well..and I have known some Indonesian ceweks for all my life and I'm over 18.. hehehe. I think Smoothy's post is spot on.. Please note that generally girls are much more polite and respectful than any were else. It will be quite easy to take advantage by ignoring the hints, but it is not a very honorable thing to do.

Liondale
05-15-07, 17:52
Where is Dragon Fly?
I wanna step up to the challenge, but have no idea where it is, what would be a convenient hotel to stay in to go there?
Preferably one that houses Tigah, CJ or Bats so I have a plan be if needed :)

Bulai69
05-15-07, 23:39
I reported on action in the airport hotel a couple of months ago. On my recent trip I confirmed what I have believed for some time, that many of the girls apparantly waiting for someone coming in off incoming international flights are merely there to be picked up.

As always, I was quick of the flight and into the arrivals area where I saw at least four girls (not together) amongst the usual crowd waiting for people coming in. I looked at them and they all smiled back so I simply picked the best one, walked up to her and said "are you waiting for me?". (This is a pretty safe approach as you could always pretend you were new in and had someone waiting for you.). The girl was around 22, very pretty and "my type" of body. She replied "maybe", so I just said "OK, perhaps we can go for coffee somewhere". She said "OK", I said "back to my hotel?" and that was it. Could not have been easier; back at my hotel we showered together and got straight down to business, a couple of hours later she was in a taxi heading home (or back to the airport for the next flight), happy with with 300k in her bag.

Later that night (Wednesday) I had a look in 30Bar: absolutely dreadful - that place has really declined in the past couple of years or so; there was nothing in there I would have had, even if I had been desperate.

1Ball
05-16-07, 00:16
What a great story B69, I can't wait to try that one myself. I am flying in next week end, though I wonder if i will achieve the same result, as I am flying domestically. I could of course hop over to Int'l arrivals.
It also makes for a far more interesting ride into town.......

Mandiri
05-16-07, 02:25
Where is Dragon Fly?

I wanna step up to the challenge, but have no idea where it is, what would be a convenient hotel to stay in to go there?

Preferably one that houses Tigah, CJ or Bats so I have a plan be if needed :)On Jalan Gatot Subroto, Graha BIP. Don't go there before 11pm. Busy days are Friday, Saturday and Wednesday. Convenient hotels to achieve your purpose: Mulia (10mn away by cab at that time of the night). Other hotels in vincinity: The Sultan, and also Ritz Carlton, the Marriott.

Enjoy!

Smoothy
05-16-07, 03:31
Now I know why my girlfriend wasn't there to meet me at the airport. Bulai picked her up before I arrived.

Ekspat
05-16-07, 03:57
So, next time you take a girl back for sex in Indonesia, remember the above and be fair to her: put at least 500,000 Rups in her purse before she leaves in the morning:

Don't be mean.
Very well said.
I think there is no girl in Indonesia, who follows you for free to the hotel after knowing you for an hour or so.
She expects money for sure, and deserves it.

Paying her nothing or 50k for taxi is CC attitude at it's extreme.

Cheers!

Menteng
05-16-07, 09:42
On Jalan Gatot Subroto, Graha BIP. Don't go there before 11pm. Busy days are Friday, Saturday and Wednesday. Convenient hotels to achieve your purpose: Mulia (10mn away by cab at that time of the night). Other hotels in vincinity: The Sultan, and also Ritz Carlton, the Marriott.

Enjoy!

Crowne Plaza and Kartika Chandra are on jalan Gatot Subroto.

Hk Dog
05-16-07, 10:04
I reported on action in the airport hotel a couple of months ago. On my recent trip I confirmed what I have believed for some time, that many of the girls apparantly waiting for someone coming in off incoming international flights are merely there to be picked up.
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The most logical explanation is that they were there to meet up with some mongerer getting off the plane. When she went with you , she probably called the guy with some lame excuse why she couldn't be at airport.

Mandiri
05-16-07, 10:31
Very well said.

I think there is no girl in Indonesia, who follows you for free to the hotel after knowing you for an hour or so.

She expects money for sure, and deserves it.

Paying her nothing or 50k for taxi is CC attitude at it's extreme.

Cheers!I respecfully disagree. Many girls going out for fun (and knowing you for an hour or so) will have sex with you and expect no $$ in return. Same with chicks you hook up with using IM Messager chat rooms etc you may have barely chatted with for an hour or so, they will get banged (as has been reported many times before on this Board) and they don't expect $$ in return.

Smoothy
05-16-07, 15:27
I respecfully disagree. Many girls going out for fun (and knowing you for an hour or so) will have sex with you and expect no $$ in return. Same with chicks you hook up with using IM Messager chat rooms etc you may have barely chatted with for an hour or so, they will get banged (as has been reported many times before on this Board) and they don't expect $$ in return.

Can you explain to me how the girls can afford to buy the nice clothes they wear to Bats, the entry fee, the price of drinks, the taxi money, the cost of makeup, beauty salon, food, rent, etc if the guys who screw them are not giving them any money at all?

I stick with my opinion in my previous posts. I basically believe it's unethical to not give the girls something in Indonesia. In the usa, europe, etc, it's not a problem - those girls have their own money. But these girls need that money and will eventually start demanding it up front if they are stiffed by cheapstakes. I seriously think it serves no other purpose than ruining the scene for the rest of the guys in town. Is $40 - $50 alot of money to slip them for servicing you all night long? Jesus christ.

You remind me of a guy I knew who would pay $700,000 to take a girl out of Stadium for all night "because he had to", but if he took a nice girl home from Tigah Puluh and she didn't ask for money, he'd give her 50,000 for taxi money. Then that girl would ask me the next day why my friend didn't give her any money. It didn't register in his brain that if he didn't give her money, she might end up working at stadium herself.

Bulai69
05-16-07, 19:35
1 Ball - maybe a long shot but if you go to arrivals about 5.30pm when LH778 comes in from Frankfurt (via Singapore) you might find the same girl(s). By the way, she wasn't up for photos so no photo to post I'm afraid.

As others have implied, she may have been just "looking" or waiting for a specific "boyfriend" and went with me on the "first come, first served principle".

Last Saturday morning I had to go to Atrium mall to buy some car spares (another story) and I had no time for hunting. However, even though it was early (11.00 - 11.15) I spotted three girls who were "looking". One was hanging around the cinema and I spoke to her and she asked if I would take her in to see the film. The other two I watched for max 2 minutes and they were pounced upon by local guys within that short period of time. I saw maybe 2 or 3 others who might have been "looking" but I didn't have time to approach them or watch them.

So nothing new there - just worth confirming that it's easy to find a girl in Atrium but you have to be QUICK.

Mandiri
05-16-07, 19:39
Can you explain to me how the girls can afford to buy the nice clothes they wear to Bats, the entry fee, the price of drinks, the taxi money, the cost of makeup, beauty salon, food, rent, etc if the guys who screw them are not giving them any money at all?Smoothy, no need to get into that kind of tone please.

Yes, the girls I am referring to here either already have a (well-paid by local standards ie one I have in mind 6.5 M Rp per month) job, or/and a husband / benefactor, and / or are students living with their parents. They would have felt insulted if I had offered them $$.

Bulai69
05-16-07, 19:46
I agree with Smoothy about paying and another point relating to this is that over time, it will drive the behaviour of girls in a direction that will destroy what is good about Jakarta: the best "girl friend experience" you will get anywhere. What will happen is that girls will start demanding an agreed price up front and eventually, demanding money up front and the whole process will degenerate into a purely commercial transaction as it is almost everywhere in the West. Indeed I have to say that there is evidence of this creeping in already. Quiet often - as evidenced in this forum, girls talk about how much money they want. 10 years ago I never experienced that.

Also, non payment by some, quite obviously, simply puts the price up for others. As Smoothy says they have to fund their lifestyle and they sure as hell won't do it by working in a shop or office on 1 juta (100USD) a month or less.

The only exception which provides a "legitimate" reason to not pay is when you find a girl who is wealthy in her own right because she has some mug of a "boyfriend" who throws money at her: most BATS girls are not in that category.

Menteng
05-16-07, 21:48
The most logical explanation is that they were there to meet up with some mongerer getting off the plane. When she went with you , she probably called the guy with some lame excuse why she couldn't be at airport.

Hmmm, I think they were there to accompany the only person they really, really love, who's just left for the periodical journey to Europe/the States ;).

Pak Mike
05-17-07, 00:42
The only exception which provides a "legitimate" reason to not pay is when you find a girl who is wealthy in her own right because she has some mug of a "boyfriend" who throws money at her: most BATS girls are not in that category.

I disagree, and am on side with Mandiri. There is another category of girls, the "good girls" as I call them, who are absolutely not interested in payment. I have three of these in Jakarta, all early thirties, living at home with parents, do not hang around places like BATS, working (usually office job or managerial position), on reasonable salaries but not brilliant, have been in a few relationships (including with foreigners) that have gone sour, and are basically looking for good sex without too many strings. I feel as if I am doing them a service!!!! The usual routine s that they drop by after work for a romp, and are on their way home by 9:30 PM. Sometimes on weekends they can queeze in an overnighter. These girls are sexually demanding, orgasmic, and know what they want, and each seems to have her own little sexual quirk. To offer these girls money would be the ultimate insult, they see themselves as "good girls", and the involvememnt of money would make them feel dirty.

BTW, these relationships I refer to have been ongoing for 2-3 years, and they are all happy to wait while I am out of Jakarta. Also, they ae not so possessive , and I think each suspects they are not "the only one", but do not raise the issue as hey don't want to soil a good thing.

OK, just my experience!

Smoothy
05-17-07, 02:34
I disagree, and am on side with Mandiri. There is another category of girls, the "good girls" as I call them, who are absolutely not interested in payment. I have three of these in Jakarta, all early thirties, living at home with parents, do not hang around places like BATS, working (usually office job or managerial position), on reasonable salaries but not brilliant, have been in a few relationships (including with foreigners) that have gone sour, and are basically looking for good sex without too many strings. I feel as if I am doing them a service!!!! The usual routine s that they drop by after work for a romp, and are on their way home by 9:30 PM. Sometimes on weekends they can queeze in an overnighter. These girls are sexually demanding, orgasmic, and know what they want, and each seems to have her own little sexual quirk. To offer these girls money would be the ultimate insult, they see themselves as "good girls", and the involvememnt of money would make them feel dirty.

BTW, these relationships I refer to have been ongoing for 2-3 years, and they are all happy to wait while I am out of Jakarta. Also, they ae not so possessive , and I think each suspects they are not "the only one", but do not raise the issue as hey don't want to soil a good thing.

OK, just my experience!

There are girls like that out there. But like you say, they aren't going to places like Bats. They consider those places to be places for "chickens" and they don't want to hang out there. I think you'll also find that those type of girls will own a car. Those type of girls are also not normally the most attractive looking. (relative to the 18-25 year old hotties you'll find at the clubs)

These are the type of girls who will yell "what do you think I am? a hooker?" when you offer them money. I wouldn't say that's the "ultimate insult" because I can think of many other things that you could say where they would never forgive you. However, they quickly forgive the money offer when you give some lame excuse like the money was just so that they had money up front to buy you pulsa or something in an emergency because you don't know where to get it.

I still say any response other than "what do you think I am? A hooker?" and they are looking for money regardless of whether they demand it or not. And basically any girl under 30 years old and not a scrag going to any of the places known to have alot of prostitutes is a girl who should have 350-500k slipped into her bag on the way out the door. Either that or pretty soon every girl in those places is going to be demanding 700k to 1 million up front. I was recently in Argentina. The girls were hot, but negotiating was a pain in the ass. I had to bargain with every girl up front about every friggin detail. How much money, how long, what kind of sex would be involved, on and on and on. Once they got to my room they were fine, but the negotiations were ridiculous. I much prefer the sweet girls in Jakarta who just leave it up to me to decide how much I give them. I'd hate to see the girls in Jakarta start negotiating like those Argentine girls.

Me Brownies
05-17-07, 17:09
Well..and I have known some Indonesian ceweks for all my life and I'm over 18.. hehehe. I think Smoothy's post is spot on.. Please note that generally girls are much more polite and respectful than any were else. It will be quite easy to take advantage by ignoring the hints, but it is not a very honorable thing to do.Am from Jakarta. And really surprise that this kinda block exist, and obviously yo'll know jakarta very well. But remember, not all women in Jakarta are bats!

Me Brownies
05-17-07, 17:22
There are girls like that out there. But like you say, they aren't going to places like Bats. They consider those places to be places for "chickens" and they don't want to hang out there. I think you'll also find that those type of girls will own a car. Those type of girls are also not normally the most attractive looking. (relative to the 18-25 year old hotties you'll find at the clubs)

These are the type of girls who will yell "what do you think I am? A hooker? " when you offer them money. I wouldn't say that's the "ultimate insult" because I can think of many other things that you could say where they would never forgive you. However, they quickly forgive the money offer when you give some lame excuse like the money was just so that they had money up front to buy you pulsa or something in an emergency because you don't know where to get it.

I still say any response other than "what do you think I am? A hooker? " and they are looking for money regardless of whether they demand it or not. And basically any girl under 30 years old and not a scrag going to any of the places known to have alot of prostitutes is a girl who should have 350-500k slipped into her bag on the way out the door. Either that or pretty soon every girl in those places is going to be demanding 700k to 1 million up front. I was recently in Argentina. The girls were hot, but negotiating was a pain in the ass. I had to bargain with every girl up front about every friggin detail. How much money, how long, what kind of sex would be involved, on and on and on. Once they got to my room they were fine, but the negotiations were ridiculous. I much prefer the sweet girls in Jakarta who just leave it up to me to decide how much I give them. I'd hate to see the girls in Jakarta start negotiating like those Argentine girls. You guys are good, I didn't even know such a blog or website exist. M from Jakarta, but guys not all indo girl are the same, these bats are just waiting some bule to take'em out from jakarta, because they thought that you guys can change their life, so before they meet the right person, they; ll be just doing this. Bellieve me!

Me Brownies
05-17-07, 17:35
I disagree, and am on side with Mandiri. There is another category of girls, the "good girls" as I call them, who are absolutely not interested in payment. I have three of these in Jakarta, all early thirties, living at home with parents, do not hang around places like BATS, working (usually office job or managerial position), on reasonable salaries but not brilliant, have been in a few relationships (including with foreigners) that have gone sour, and are basically looking for good sex without too many strings. I feel as if I am doing them a service!!!! The usual routine s that they drop by after work for a romp, and are on their way home by 9:30 PM. Sometimes on weekends they can queeze in an overnighter. These girls are sexually demanding, orgasmic, and know what they want, and each seems to have her own little sexual quirk. To offer these girls money would be the ultimate insult, they see themselves as "good girls", and the involvememnt of money would make them feel dirty.

BTW, these relationships I refer to have been ongoing for 2-3 years, and they are all happy to wait while I am out of Jakarta. Also, they ae not so possessive , and I think each suspects they are not "the only one", but do not raise the issue as hey don't want to soil a good thing.

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Bulai69
05-17-07, 19:10
I agree with Pak Mike about the kind of girl you describe but they don't go to BATS either - I think that's what you said too. I have also found exactly that kind of girl but generally they are not my type in most respects, but of course "each to his own".

The fact is: 999/1000 girls in BATS who spend the night with a guy (even if it's Brad Pitt) after knowing him half an hour, do so because the expect, and need, the money.

Smoothy
05-18-07, 00:06
Smoothy, no need to get into that kind of tone please.

Yes, the girls I am referring to here either already have a (well-paid by local standards ie one I have in mind 6.5 M Rp per month) job, or/and a husband / benefactor, and / or are students living with their parents. They would have felt insulted if I had offered them $$.

Sorry if I went a little overboard with my tone. But I think you are way off base here. You mention the girl admitted she goes to bats often. So no way does she have a 6.5 million rupiah per month job but is still going to Bats every night till 2am. The likelihood that she's a student living with her parents is very slim, as mentioned previously, those type of girls are not girls who go to bats alot. She MAY have a husband/benefactor, but again, that possibility is slight. The most likely scenario is that the girl was not quite as hard core as the other girls yet so she didn't demand money. A few more guys like you, and she will start demanding money up front.

Seriously, if you want a freebie from a girl who is going with you because she likes you and not just hoping for money, I suggest going to Dragon Fly, Hard Rock or other such places. However, my guess is you will get zero freebies because in reality the girls are not going with you to give you a freebie, they are going with you hoping for money. But I hope you can prove me wrong by scoring there. There are FAR more girls in those places with 6.5 million rupiah a month jobs, students living with their parents, and with husbands/benefactors than you will ever find at Bats. So theoretically, they would be quite target rich environments by your standards.

I look forward to your next report of your freebie from Dragon Fly or Hard Rock Cafe. Good luck!

Sabbath
05-18-07, 04:25
Went to Dragonfly a few weeks back, to meet a friend over there..
As soon as I came in a girl approached me and asked if she could buy me a drink. At first I thought I understood wrong. SHE bought ME a drink..
After some serious drinking and kissing, she took me in her car to her place. And what a place that was, mamma mia..What was I suppossed to do in the morning?? Leave some money on the kitchen table??
Went to CJ' with a guy..., He started to talk to a girl.., They exchanged numbers.., After that I started to chat with the girl as well.. She said she doesn't like me..Never the less, she gave me her number.., The next day me and my friend started to exchange sms's with her.., Surprisingly she wanted to see me, the other day. Met in F- bar, had some sushi, went to burgundy and after that to my place.. Hmmm, she drove in her pimped up volvo, hehehe.. What was I suppossed to do in the morning. Give her some money..?
My friend called me. He had an appointement with a girl and asked me to join, since she brought her friend with her..
We met in mistere.., Her friend never seen me before. That wan's a reason to take out my dick behind the bar after, hmmmmm 15 minutes we met..
Went to my friends place. He and the other girl in the bedroom. Me and her in the living room. What need to be happen, happend..
What was I suppossed to do?? Leave some money???
Have been at a housewarming party last week.. About 300 people, Dj's, drinks. food etc... It was great!!!
Met a girl which works at SOS as a ....... We talked the whole evening and at 3 in the morning she decided to come to my place, since here place was " too far" away.... hmmmm again. What was I suppossed to do??
Belive me, I not that kind of guy who turns every rupiah around. I have a good salary, stay by myself and get most of the things paid by my company.. I support a few aid projects financially.., Not an orang pelit.., I know that I have to pay for girls I pick up in " nightspots"..., but my experience shows me, that there are so many girls which like to have a good time, and that, if they like you, follow you...
Red square!!! You cannot imagine how many girls are there, by now unfortunalety quite a few hookers too, who are just looking for fun.. They open bottles, drink, dance and look for some guys they like..
The other ( bad) thing about it is, that some of them consider you as your boyfriend after that.. Something that cannot happen in blok m, hehehe.. But of course, there you pay..

Just my toughts.., There is a bit of truth in both (smoothy's and mandiri's) threads..

Smoothy
05-18-07, 05:23
Sabbath, those are great experiences! But I think all of your scenarios are totally different from the one Mandiri had described. In his, he was most likely stiffing a working girl who was too nice to force the issue. In yours, you were going with girls casually. There's a difference. (by the way, taking a girl to Sushi and Burgundy will cost more than paying her straight away, so that was far from a freebie - but there's nothing wrong with that.)

Are you under 30 and good looking? I can't imagine a girl buying you a drink at Dragon Fly if that isn't the case. There are definitely hot party girls there looking for fun. But they are not easy to get if you are over 40 and not providing them with drugs.

Cervello
05-18-07, 10:27
Are you under 30 and good looking? I can't imagine a girl buying you a drink at Dragon Fly if that isn't the case. There are definitely hot party girls there looking for fun. But they are not easy to get if you are over 40 and not providing them with drugs.You damn right Smoothy, but then again Mandiri could be under 30 and good looking (by girls standard, NOT mine). Sabbath must have one of those, judging from his exp. For bules, is not essential to have both, just one will do.

I am fully agree with Smoothy, but i am not fully against Mandiri either. You see, me myself are over 30 (although i am still good looking, repeat good looking, not good body) but it is refreshing to read Mandiri or Sabbath kind of report, made me remembered my good old days, dont we had those good old days Smoothy? We cant stay young and good looking forever, by understanding this you will understand why they want to SHARE their glory.

I believe we cant stop the globalization that reaching here, merely by slipping 300 to 500 into their purse. So... why dont we make our point and get done with it, I really dont wanna make those youngster thing twice before share their glory. I still need the alternative place to go out and have some fun with a chance to have GFE sex, there's so many post about Blok M and Melawai I am sure we wont lost our way.

One last thing I would like to add, whether we should or not give them money, it's absolutely our call, although Smoothy and others senior member who stay long enough in Jakarta make their point very clear, many girls in Indonesia are just to shy to ask for money especially from the foreigner, but there's also many girls in Jakarta who can afford their ways of living. So please.. make your judgement (and post) correctly, right Smoothy?

Joel Goodsen
05-18-07, 14:36
Nice FR Sabbath.. Obviously you have a comparative advantage somewhere, girls buying you drinks and picking up freebees from Dragon Fly is nothing something that's for everyone ..
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Non-commercial sex, even with pro's, is great, i'm a firm believer, but hey.. there is a difference in getting a freebee and tricking working girls - that's not ok.

She did not conceil the fact that she is at BATS almost daily and that this was her bread-earner. Hearing this (and disliking the prospect of having to P4P), I soon used a trick ..

I hope my tactics can work for some of you guys and you can enjoy the same terms and conditions (LOL!).

Menteng
05-18-07, 16:43
Sabbath, those are great experiences! But I think all of your scenarios are totally different from the one Mandiri had described. In his, he was most likely stiffing a working girl who was too nice to force the issue. In yours, you were going with girls casually. There's a difference. (by the way, taking a girl to Sushi and Burgundy will cost more than paying her straight away, so that was far from a freebie - but there's nothing wrong with that.)

Are you under 30 and good looking? I can't imagine a girl buying you a drink at Dragon Fly if that isn't the case. There are definitely hot party girls there looking for fun. But they are not easy to get if you are over 40 and not providing them with drugs.


Well, I think you might categorize Sabath in the "good looking" department. Besides, he is tall, slim, young and single and I think those are advantages too! :( :(

Sabath, now I now the reason(s) why I haven't seen you around in Blok M :)

Smoothy
05-19-07, 04:51
but then again Mandiri could be under 30 and good looking

I'm not saying that might not be the case. My initial intent was to point out that just because the girls aren't asking for money doesn't mean that they intended it to be a freebie. I've met guys in the past who think that just because the girl wasn't demanding money, that she didn't want any - when really that was far from the case. Like Bulai mentioned, the GFE you get in Jakarta (even from working girls) is what makes it so special. When they are forced to demand money up front, that spoils the GFE environment for all of us. I'm just suggesting that everyone be considerate of the girls and make sure that they truly would not need that money before deciding to give them nothing.

Mandiri, perhaps your experience was a unique one where the girl thought she wasn't going to make any money that night and found you to be good looking enough that she wanted to give you some free sex. However, if you really are young and good looking, Bats isn't one of the better places to be hanging out in Jakarta. There are different subcultures in this city. If you are single, young, tall and good looking, you are wasting your time at places where the working girls hang out like Bats. You can be easily getting laid for free at other places in the city.

Time to move on to another more interesting topic. I think a Sabbath fan club is in order here. I want to hang out with Sabbath just to try to pick up some of his left overs!

Cervello
05-19-07, 06:26
Time to move on to another more interesting topic. I think a Sabbath fan club is in order here. I want to hang out with Sabbath just to try to pick up some of his left overs!Thats my point, this topic is getting dull.

Please note Smoothy point, when the girls dont ask for money it doesnt mean she doesnt need it.

I think Sabbath should post his night activities, can Jackson open this special threat? Perhaps under the name of Freebies? Many women will appreciate this. :D

Can I join the Sabbath fan club too? Please.

Martin6
05-19-07, 06:30
Hi Every one,

I'm new to this forum. I'm planning to go to Jakarta for my first time. Any idea which hotel I should stay and the happening scen with the best girl?

I appreciate for any help here on the info. You are much welcome to send me any contact nr as well.

Thanks

Gonad Man
05-19-07, 07:07
If you are single, young, tall and good looking, you are wasting your time at places where the working girls hang out like Bats. You can be easily getting laid for free at other places in the city.And where might this young, tall single male find these places?

Mandiri
05-19-07, 10:09
Apologies in advance, this report may get me flamed again by Smoothie and others, but that's OK, this is a free world, Smoothie brings some valuable points though the tone is a little condescending as I find it.

I spent the evening at BATS with a (guy) friend the other night and an absolute stunner showed up about 1. 30am, just before the close (this being a Monday). She was so stunning that I simply did not dare to go and talk to her. Upon leaving the place, I sat in the couch in the lobby and. There she is, on her way out alone. This is where I jumped on her and said how I like her, how much I'd like tospend time with her bla bla bla. Off we go with an exchange of hp numbers promising to each other tomeet the following day. Over the course of the following day, we exchange SMS and agree to meet at Mistere (Ritz Carlton), this being a Tuesday night therefore salsa night. Was at Mistere with a friend well before her, she calls me when her taxi approaches the hotel, I go to meet her in the main lobby and when she comes in, the whole flippin' lobby stares at her, 3 bule businessmen almost choke. She is so beautiful!

Off we go to the salso bar, then the other disco with the (great) band, and we have drinks, dance together. Next thing I know is I am on my way to my hotel with Alexa, 24 yo, who does some modelling jobs occasionally (thats her), and delightful night of GFE love-making. It goes without saying that I did not pay, and will meet her again soon.

Another great experience in JKT, you've got to love it!

Smoothy
05-19-07, 10:22
And where might this young, tall single male find these places?

Your target chicks should be the upper class indos who are trying to be cool by dating a hot bule. Dragon Fly, Vertigo (at Semanggi), Mistere (I've never been, but heard it's good), Retro (crowne plaza), Embassy (taman ria), Barbados (kemang), Red Square would all be likely hunting grounds.

Also, the new place at Senayan seems to be the hot place now. I've never been there, but everyone tells me that's the place to go. X2 or something like that, I forget since I've yet to visit. Honestly, if you are a young good looking bule, there are not many places in Jakarta where you can't pick up girls. But if you're wanting one night freebies, I think you should target those upper class indo party girls.

Anyone have any success at that new place in Senayan?

Mandiri
05-19-07, 10:24
I thought I should bring the matter of the freebie I got from a WG (Zita) at BATS to a conclusion. It raised quite a bit of anger from such members as Smoothie on the theme of "GFE's will disappear in JKT and all gals will ask $$ upfront".

Since my freebie night with Zita, I met her at BATS a couple of times (of course, she is there about 6 nights a week). And on those two occasions, she wanted to go with me (though she is obviously very well aware (! ) that she only got semen from me and no $$ the first time we met), and was very jealous (giving me mean looks) when I was talking to other gals.

Point is made and I too sugget we move on to other topics.

And yes, to answer some of the questions on the Board, I happen to have the luck of gals liking me a lot in SE Asia in general.- this is no bragging, the reality of my (lucky) circumstances. I am no brad pitt, but in my 30's, bule, fit, tall, very white skin, the Indo gals seem to like me. Recently a receptionist of a prospective (business client) was trying to get my hp digits when I was at the reception announcing myself to the prospect (! ). I was shocked.

Bulai69
05-19-07, 11:48
"there is a difference in getting a freebee and tricking working girls - that's not ok." - 100% agree, that's the whole point

Menteng
05-19-07, 12:01
Your target chicks should be the upper class indos who are trying to be cool by dating a hot bule. Dragon Fly, Vertigo (at Semanggi), Mistere (I've never been, but heard it's good), Retro (crowne plaza), Embassy (taman ria), Barbados (kemang), Red Square would all be likely hunting grounds.Embassy and Retro? Less challenge than at the other ones you mentioned.

Sabbath
05-19-07, 13:21
Well, I think you might categorize Sabath in the "good looking" department. Besides, he is tall, slim, young and single and I think those are advantages too! :( :(

Sabath, now I now the reason(s) why I haven't seen you around in Blok M :)Hey Menteng,

Thanks for the flowers.

Well, tall and single is correct. Not sure about the slim and young, hehehe. The Jakarta lifestylie is putting some weight around my waist. And I will be 35 soon. I just look younger, thanks to my healthy lifestyle. Sex, drugs and reggae music, hehehe.

Let me know, when you are back. I own you one is D's

For the others. It is not my intention to SHARE my glories. Check all my reports. I never mentioned any freebies in any other FR's. Since we had this topic, I just wanted to tell my point of you.

Joel Goodsen
05-19-07, 16:23
Many of the richer kids, especially within the Indo-Chinese crowd, are not that keen on dating bules, i find. I'm not too old either, but at times lack patience and tend to opt for a surer bet..
If you're up for a challenge, maybe add Babyface - Jakarta theatre building, to the mentioned Vertigo/X-Lounge plaza Semanggi, Dragon Fly, Mistere in the Ritz.. Barbados in Kemang has lovely life music, but will be a relatively safe place to go out and take gf to.

Mandiri
05-20-07, 09:50
Hi,

Out of curiosity, I recently went to Bugils with a friend to check this place out -- it was my first time there. Looks like a place with a lot of regular folks having a beer after work and most of whom seem to know one another. Lots of guys compared to gals. There's a couple of very nice and good looking bar girls. The live band was OK. I talked to a couple of girls, but not much came out of it. Does anyone have good experiences of chatting up girls there ?

PS, anecdote: there is a bule guy there who seems tobe a regular and who plays pools with a single hand and keeps winning. Incredible, very talented.

Exit93
05-20-07, 19:44
Hello Guys,

New here. Just registered a few minutes ago. I have been to Jakarta once I think about 3 weeks back. Stayed at a screwed up hotel. So far away from everything. Was wondering where to stay and where can I find beautiful ladies example models. I'll pay for it. I have been to BATS only during my 1st visit. Heard about this HAILAI discotheque. Didn't go there cause alot of people say that place is not safe: (.

Please advise me guys

Cheers.

Vahaza Be
05-20-07, 22:33
Hello Guys,

New here. Just registered a few minutes ago. I have been to Jakarta once I think about 3 weeks back. Stayed at a screwed up hotel. So far away from everything. Was wondering where to stay and where can I find beautiful ladies example models. I'll pay for it. I have been to BATS only during my 1st visit. Heard about this HAILAI discotheque. Didn't go there cause alot of people say that place is not safe: (.

Please advise me guys

Cheers.
Spend a little time reading. Tons of information here.

Smoothy
05-20-07, 22:43
Does anyone have good experiences of chatting up girls there ?

PS, anecdote: there is a bule guy there who seems tobe a regular and who plays pools with a single hand and keeps winning. Incredible, very talented.

I don't know of anyone who has gotten lucky there. That's a place to have a few beers and chat up the waitresses, but don't expect to get very far with them.

I've never seen the one handed pool guy. That sounds like an attraction in itself.

Knight 1001
05-21-07, 18:19
Hi,

Out of curiosity, I recently went to Bugils with a friend to check this place out -- it was my first time there. Looks like a place with a lot of regular folks having a beer after work and most of whom seem to know one another. Lots of guys compared to gals. There's a couple of very nice and good looking bar girls. The live band was OK. I talked to a couple of girls, but not much came out of it. Does anyone have good experiences of chatting up girls there ?

PS, anecdote: there is a bule guy there who seems tobe a regular and who plays pools with a single hand and keeps winning. Incredible, very talented.

A guy kept telling me i should go there, so i did, once, and I think I came out of it faster than I got in: definitely NOT a place for the monguerer that I am ...
This is a kinda semi-straight place where, as smoothy puts it, buddies hang out to get thrashed on beer and booze, and certainly not to get the adrenaline shoot up gradually by screening the incoming and moving chicks and their asses, (like we do), weighing our chances of a good lay or a wild night; those guys are not hunters: they're like sitting ducks (well, that's the impression i got anyway)... even the girls there seemed only interested by the regulars they were waiting for.

Hope i did not offend anyone here as I did not mean to.

Cheers.

Ebowan
05-22-07, 11:11
A guy kept telling me i should go there, so i did, once, and I think I came out of it faster than I got in: definitely NOT a place for the monguerer that I am ...
This is a kinda semi-straight place where, as smoothy puts it, buddies hang out to get thrashed on beer and booze, and certainly not to get the adrenaline shoot up gradually by screening the incoming and moving chicks and their asses, (like we do), weighing our chances of a good lay or a wild night; those guys are not hunters: they're like sitting ducks (well, that's the impression i got anyway)... even the girls there seemed only interested by the regulars they were waiting for.

Hope i did not offend anyone here as I did not mean to.

Cheers.

Your comment bout sitting ducks is excellent, I know this place either and I straight went out again with the same impression.

They should be lucky that former minister of defense Dick Cheney didn't show up there hahaha.

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU

Ebowan

Smoothy
05-22-07, 11:52
As bad a place as Bugils is to try to pick up chicks, I wouldn't be suprised if Sabbath has the waitresses there slipping him free drinks and giving him BJ's behind the bar.

Some guys have all the luck. :)

Mandiri
05-22-07, 13:39
Yesterday was the grand opening of the Blackpearl in Senayan -- a new high-end bar/lounge a la Dragonfly. Obviously too early to call how good this place will be. Obviously also unlikely to become a pick-up joint a la CJ's, however could be a good place to meet some high-end chicks and bang them soon afterwards (courting here is rarely a several weeks/months affair like in the West, as we all know) so the bang could come pretty fast for those who can afford to have one date before the shag.

A place to be put on the watch-list.Talking about challenges, Black Pearl in Senayan should be a good place for that. I was talking to one of their waitresses the other night whom I met by chance in a bar, she said that Black Pearl is busy mostly on Fridays and Saturdays, lady's night is on Wednesday nights. I went to their opening night a month ago (see quoted report) and this is very high-end stuff indeed. Will try to go there soon and will report back if anything meaningful comes out.

Exit93
05-23-07, 06:05
I don't see any reports on HaiLai D: (. But well. I'm going to JKT on the 10th June. 13th June. Any of you guys wanna meet up? We can go fishing together. I really need to fuck models. I guess been watching too much porn: (. LOLZ. Got 3000 titles haha: (. Well. Where is the best place to stay>? How bout 1 night drinks on me.

Ex

Mongerxx
05-23-07, 09:20
Halai is all the way north at the front of Ancol. But that place is old, well ancient, news. You are not going to find the "model" stocks there. If you truly are a guy who needs models and you don't have the right agent connection, the you should go to Zen. Zen is more of a Karaoke - lounge place than straight p4p. Here you will book a girl to drink with you and keep you company only. Then its up to you and her wether your booking will extend tothe bedroom. However, you can tell the mommy you only want girls who are willing to go back to your room. The are usually some girls of very high quality here, and a lot of fun. While not really any models you will find certainly high quality SPG type girls. Many of the hostesses here are truly in the semi pro mode. Also if you book a karaoke room here, you can get some wild and nasty strippers in the room. These girls will give you an hour of titillation that will usually end up with bathroom BJ, HJ, and other shenanigan's for tips. I have a regular girl who works as one of these strippers, and she gives some of the best deep throat ever. Alas she is no model type. And of course she swears she doesn't give any customers extras! hehehehe. I arrived in Jakarta at night, just not last night. Don't waste your time PM'ing request for her name and contact. Find your own dam girls!


I don't see any reports on HaiLai D: (. But well. I'm going to JKT on the 10th June. 13th June. Any of you guys wanna meet up? We can go fishing together. I really need to fuck models. I guess been watching too much porn: (. LOLZ. Got 3000 titles haha: (. Well. Where is the best place to stay>? How bout 1 night drinks on me.

Ex

Panya
05-23-07, 11:40
Also, the new place at Senayan seems to be the hot place now. I've never been there, but everyone tells me that's the place to go. X2 or something like that, I forget since I've yet to visit. Honestly, if you are a young good looking bule, there are not many places in Jakarta where you can't pick up girls. But if you're wanting one night freebies, I think you should target those upper class indo party girls.

Anyone have any success at that new place in Senayan?

Hi Brothers,

The place is called X2, and it is made up of 3-4 different concepts (in terms of music), with a dining area as well. I had a meeting with the Marketing Manager to discuss a propsective promotional event for one of our clients. At that time, they had not fully launched the full concept yet, and I had a chance to do a walk-through of the place, where I could see that renovation/construction was still going on in some areas -- it was in the afternoon that I went.

According to him, there's usually a queue of "... thousands of people ..." on weekends, and they sell memberships of Platinum - Rp 50 million, Gold - Rp 7 million, and Silver (I think ) Rp 1.8 million. There's a cover charge of Rp 80,000 to get in, which gets you the 1st drink free.

There's 12 shareholders in all, and one of them is the owner of Red Square.

Anyway, just to let Bros JAD and Menteng know that I'm "back in circulation" on the mongering scene. Was involved with a single, cute, career lady in her late 20s for 6 months, and it got too heavy as she wanted a long term commitment, and was pretty mad that I couldn't comply. What followed was not pretty ... the usual tears, hysterics, and accusations. :(

I do envy Bro Mandiri for his ability to love 'em and leave 'em where the classy babes are concerned, but I guess that's what you get for being a long cool john :)

To tell the truth, I got into this relationship after being jaded with the P4P, as after 4 years of monthly visits to Jakarta, I felt I needed familiarity with someone who's classy and intellectual (besides being good in bed).

I have learnt my lesson ... until the next time, that is. ;)

Best,
Panya

Mandiri
05-26-07, 18:18
guys,

i know this post will make quite a few of you (inlcuding me! ) freak out but this is the reality sadly. as i am writing these lines, i am in bed with a wg from bats who has just told me of the story of santi (her bats name), a 24 yo javanese girl (her real name: kasuci), who's been in the business for about 11 years including working in malaysia, batam and who setteled to bats until about 1 month ago. 1 month ago, she went to hospital because of her disastrous state (bronchytis etc) with the wg i am with tonight (her neighboor). santi was diagnosed with hiv and aids at the hospital one month ago. upon hearing this, "my" wg called santi’s family in java who came to jkt to fetch her. santi is now in her kampung, most likely dying or close to it from the description i have just heard. she has been active at bats (every bloody night or almost) until about 1-2 months ago. apparently, she had a regular client from bosnia

i am franctically writing this post as, having just heard the story of santi, i am afraid of a potentially massive contamination. santi has been active at bats for the longest time and the fact that she has developed aids now means she’s had hiv for quite some time. conclusion: there could be a bunch of people contaminated already in the bats community.

sorry to be a party-pooper here but i wanted to circulate this information soonest.

Smoothy
05-27-07, 02:55
Mandiri, that's sad news indeed. I don't know that girl, but I've known other working girls in Jakarta who have died of aids in the last couple of years. It always amazes me when I see guys posting pictures of themselves having sex with working girls and not wearing a condom. In discussions, some guys will tell me they think it's impossible to transmit hiv through normal sex with a woman. I think they are dead wrong, but they are grown men and can make that decision for themselves. I don't know of any studies that prove any other way of transmitting hiv rather than blood to blood contact, but a study like that would be close to impossible to verify anyway. Since there's no way to be sure who has what illness, I take precautions as if all working girls are hiv positive. I believe there's no way to be completely safe while sticking your dick inside an hiv positive girl, but I feel safer wearing a condom.

Mandiri
05-27-07, 05:16
To add to that point, there is apparently a bule guy who is frequently at BATS and may have shagged pretty much all of (certainly most of) the BATS' regular WG's and who makes a point of shagging them without protection. He sometimes takes 6 or 7 of them at one go, bring them to his place, lines them up on the bed and shags them condom-less one after the other.

So risk of contamination of STI's at BATS (and anywhere else for that matter) is HIGH.This guy keeps asking to shag the WG I was with the other day and, upon her refusing time after time (she is scared of his bareback ways), he gets very angry. This is not AR (this one does not take videos of his feats!).

It makes me sad to think that the mindset of girls in Indo being to genuinely please men they do not push back on this type of male behaviour described above.

Mandiri
05-27-07, 16:01
I** is 24 years of age. She comes from a large city of Java and now lives in Jakarta. She has two half-sisters. A couple of years back she met a young European guy (26 yo) at the Stadium discotheque– both were high on pills then. He was on a vacation in Jakarta and from the happy weeks they spent together I** became pregnant. She did not want this child with him but her boyfriend, though he lives in a European capital city, insisted on her keeping the child. Anti-abortion laws in Indonesia not making it easy for women to abort, she had to keep the child, despite a few attempts at doing « self-abortion » with pills. A wonderful baby girl was born in August 2006. I** then went to spend three months in Europe, in the midst of the European winter, where the father lives. She tried hard to get used to her new circumstances but, not speaking the local language, having no local friends and not getting on well with her boyfriend she left Europe after 3 months, in February 2007. The whole in-law family were in tears then to see the baby girl head back to Indonesia.

I** is now back in Jakarta. She is on a 9-months hairdresser’s training school in Blok M. She is 2 months into this programme and has 7 months to go to complete the course. She can’t wait to complete the course and be able to start having an income from this occupation. Her father, who did not want to have a daughter but a boy and who spends money on girls, does not support her financially – she has not seen him in 4 years. Her boyfriend seems to be sending her some money every month for child support. This is not enough to live though. So she hangs out 2-3 times a week at Shangri La’s club, BATS, and when she fancies the guy who approaches her (she prefers Europeans she says) she goes with him and makes love in return for money which she needs to keep her and her daughter going.

I** is a very attractive slim girl with a beautiful dark skin, a beautiful shy smile. When she lived in Europe all the guys were after her to the point where her ex-boyfriend almost had to fight with them to keep them away from her.

Though she is only 24, one can already feel her intense experience of life and her sense of responsibilites for her child and also towards other working girls whom sometimes she helps financially with her modest pennies. She hates what she has to do for a living (she starts crying when she talks about it) and can’t wait to start her hairdresser’s career to get a regular income. She says she’s been with about 30 men to date, all seem to have treated her well. She exclusively goes with Bule guys and insists that she prefers European men.

I recently spent a full day with I**, about 20 hours or so in total. We went to a restaurant for lunch, then to a spa, then had dinner together and spent time together at my place – it was a great date day. I was little by little falling for I**.- so attractive and gracious, so sweet, so caring, so much sense of her responsibilities and such a big heart. When she finally opened up to me to share the other side of her story (freelance prostitution), I felt an intense sense of outrage and injustice inside of me, initially directed at the irresponsible attitude of her unsupportive father. The case of I** is sadly far from being isolated in Jakarta and many such wonderful human beings are having to « do what they need to do » to survive. They are so easy to fall in love with: despite the circumstances they are in, they are so genuine, naturally caring and generous. A situation like this always feels awkward of couse: in particular because in the West, an angel like I** would find herself a boyfiriend (to become husband) with a good income in no time at all. Here in Jakarta, she has to meet men to make ends meet, which certainly takes care of her short-term money needs but not of her long-term situation. Once I** becomes a hairdresser, I would not be surprised if she has to continue to be a freelance prostitute to complement her modest income – sadly.

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The Corn Hole
05-27-07, 21:43
I am franctically writing this post as, having just heard the story of Santi, I am afraid of a potentially massive contamination. Santi has been active at BATS for the longest time and the fact that she has developed AIDS now means she’s had HIV for quite some time. Conclusion: there could be a bunch of people contaminated already in the BATS community.


This one individual case is really no cause for such hysteria. While some STI's are easy to pass on the HIV virus has proven to be a difficult one to pass on from heterosexual sex. Certainly from female to male it's very difficult. With all the condomless play going on in asian cities like Jakarta, Manila, AC, Bangkok, Pattaya ect you would think there would be an epidemic among WG's in these places but it hasn't happened. Contrast the rates of HIV/Aids with the rates of other STDs like gonoreah which are soaring in every one of those cities. Only a handful or so of reported cases of bargirls in A.C. being diagnosed with HIV in a year? That is really quite astonishing considering the vast majority of WG's there are not using condoms with legions of men passing through there all the time. Jakarta recieves far less foreign sex tourists than AC does, so you can imagine how low the danger of a widespread outbreak of this virus in Jakarta really is. Use a rubber and there's absolutely NOTHING to worry about.

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

Panya
05-28-07, 02:54
So risk of contamination of STI's at BATS (and anywhere else for that matter) is HIGH.

Oh maaannnn, just when I posted to declare I'm back in circulation!! :( That's it ... I'm calling my girl, go down on my knees, tell her I'm sorry and ask whether we can pick up relationship where we left off.

Seriously, though, this is one of the things that made me jaded over P4P. Practically a different girl each time, trying to get a hard-on whilst drunkenly reeling from the alcohol consumed, sometimes even going bareback for the first 5 minutes to get the hard-on, and then withdrawing to put on the hat, while telling myself (oh yea ...) it's only for awhile to get the erection going.

There's something to be said for long-term relationships where the sex is good, and you (think) know that it's safe.

Well, I guess that the moral of the story is to cap it!!

Smoothy
05-28-07, 03:04
While some STI's are easy to pass on the HIV virus has proven to be a difficult one to pass on from heterosexual sex. Certainly from female to male it's very difficult.

You really believe that? I'm just curious, can you explain to me how HIV is so rampant in Africa? If it's not from heterosexual sex, maybe it's some kind of voodoo or magic? Or maybe they are all having anal sex with green monkeys?

Smoothy
05-28-07, 05:05
I thought I should bring the matter of the freebie I got from a WG (Zita) at BATS to a conclusion. It raised quite a bit of anger from such members as Smoothie on the theme of "GFE's will disappear in JKT and all gals will ask $$ upfront".

Since my freebie night with Zita, I met her at BATS a couple of times (of course, she is there about 6 nights a week). And on those two occasions, she wanted to go with me (though she is obviously very well aware (! ) that she only got semen from me and no $$ the first time we met), and was very jealous (giving me mean looks) when I was talking to other gals.

I apologize for overreacting. If this Zita girl is still wanting to go with you, she must like you. ;)

If you feel comfortable giving her nothing given her circumstances, that's obviously your decision.

Pute Nut
05-28-07, 05:06
Or maybe they are all having anal sex with green monkeys?

Basically, yes. Almost. Add some razorblades & detergent...

Tesco Nigel would feel at home.

Jijjy
05-28-07, 05:26
I think something that most members here don't fully realize is how/why it is that gay men transmit the HIV virus. While I'm not a doctor, early on in the advent of AID's I did some work (photography) for the CDC (Center for Disease Control) in the 'states and had lengthy talks with the experts there: When any two people have anal sex, there is a very slight (microscopic) tearing of the skin, since AID's is transmitted via blood, this transfers the virus from one person to another. Rubbers are NOT always a sure fire way to stop it, as it's possible for the virus to microscopically permeate the rubber, though it's certainly better than nothing. Guys here seem to always be looking for girls who'll do bareback-anal, possibly not knowing this is the very highest risk that one can possibly take sexually. In oral sex there has to be an actual open sore in the girls mouth and that needs to come in direct contact with the opening of your john thomas or an open sore on your penis, which is highly unlikely. Yes, AID's is extremely hard to pass along via vaginal sex, but with anal it's a whole different ball game.

On another note, I'm down here in Ubud-Bali and I've found that lots of ladies want to have sex with we white monkey's for free. A girl told me long ago that the local guys tend to talk too much about it to their friends and it's just too small of a community for them to have sex with the locals. If they only knew we were here talking to the whole world! I also see that generally speaking they're not treated nearly as nice by the local guys. I was amazed that this girl was amazed that I stood up and walked across the room to get her a soda, rather than telling her to get it herself. I'm 55 and I've had plenty of free sex from locals here all in their 20's and 30's, though most of it rather bad. Rushing seems to be the order of the day. The minute I'm hard, they want it in and want it over. Getting them to slow down is a real challenge.

That's All Folks

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.


- jF

Smoothy
05-28-07, 06:51
I would not be surprised if she has to continue to be a freelance prostitute to complement her modest income – sadly.

That's a sad story of course. However, I'm not sure how you consider this story to be much different from most of the girls at Bats. They all have similar stories. Alot of them give up on a career as a hairdresser, etc and start going to Bats every night. Many of them have far worse stories than that one. The bottom line is that these girls don't have any way to make decent money so they sell themselves. It sounds like I** is still in the early phases. I'd expect her to either start frequenting Bats more often or get lucky and find a new boyfriend.

The rough life these girls have is why I believe it's always good to give all the working girls at least something. I can't live with myself not giving the girls at the prostitute bars at least 350k for a night of sex. These girls have hard lives and need the money. If they don't need the money, they would be going to places like DragonFly.

You say you've been in Jakarta 2 years? I'd expect you have heard a story similar to I** 100 times by now. I'm not saying it's not a true story. Because I have no doubt that it is. But that's the way it is for these girls. They don't have the cushy life western women have. That's the reason I cringe everytime I see someone using the word "freebie" in reference to a working girl in Indonesia.

That being said, the girl who currently cuts my hair used to work Bats and Hard Rock about 7 years ago. She took the money she made there and went to hair styling school. She makes good money now working at the salon so doesn't sell herself anymore. She recently even bought a car for herself. She's still quite a hotty and I'd give 500k at the drop of a hat to sleep with her if she were interested. LOL! So there is hope for I**.

Menteng
05-28-07, 10:16
That being said, the girl who currently cuts my hair used to work Bats and Hard Rock about 7 years ago. She took the money she made there and went to hair styling school. She makes good money now working at the salon so doesn't sell herself anymore. She recently even bought a car for herself.


With all due respects brother, but do you really believe that she was able to buy that car with her hairdressers income?

Years ago, salons were THE pick-up places by local men and it wouldn't surprise me when there are still spots like that. Writing this, I remember reading an Indonesian book about Jakarta nightlife, where the author described those places.

Smoothy
05-28-07, 10:44
With all due respects brother, but do you really believe that she was able to buy that car with her hairdressers income?

You never know. She may have an indo boyfriend helping her out. It's a piece of crap car that she bought 2nd hand. I doubt the thing is worth more than 30 million.

I've watched that girl work. She's continually busy. The other hair stylists there have few customers, but there's always a waiting line for this girl. She works 11-7 every day except Wednesday. I bet she makes at least 5 million a month. It took her 5 years to save for that car, so I wouldn't doubt she bought it herself.

But again, who knows? I've suggested to her many times that if she wants to make some extra money like in the past that I'm always willing. :) She hasn't taken me up on that yet. She has said she'd go out with me if I'm looking for a girlfriend, but not just to pay her for sex. I haven't figured her out yet.

ProfDesigner
05-28-07, 10:49
I really need to fuck models.
Ex

I just had the biggest shock and totally surprised me, I needed some professional models for a real photoshoot, not just a fun shoot and wanted to book the model for one day. The prices they came back with for good looking girls but not what i would call supermodels floored me.

The cheapest was 30 juta and the dearest 60 juta, then to add insult to injury they insisted on garuda flights and that I pay for a chaperone and 5 star accommodation. These people have no Idea. In all honesty I now am bringing a top Australian model up for the day, she will stay for 4 days as well as the flight for 15 juta max and noone to hold her hand.

I honestly think they just saw the bule name on the email and thought theycould get someone who wouldnt know better. I've played this game too long and i know the girl wouldnt be getting even half of that fee in indonesia... I love the way they just think we are complete idiots who have no idea about what happens in the real world. Oh well makes me want to open a modelling agency and fix the market.

Mandiri
05-28-07, 13:03
That's a sad story of course. However, I'm not sure how you consider this story to be much different from most of the girls at Bats. They all have similar stories. Alot of them give up on a career as a hairdresser, etc and start going to Bats every night. Many of them have far worse stories than that one. The bottom line is that these girls don't have any way to make decent money so they sell themselves. It sounds like I** is still in the early phases. I'd expect her to either start frequenting Bats more often or get lucky and find a new boyfriend.

The rough life these girls have is why I believe it's always good to give all the working girls at least something. I can't live with myself not giving the girls at the prostitute bars at least 350k for a night of sex. These girls have hard lives and need the money. If they don't need the money, they would be going to places like DragonFly.

You say you've been in Jakarta 2 years? I'd expect you have heard a story similar to I** 100 times by now. I'm not saying it's not a true story. Because I have no doubt that it is. But that's the way it is for these girls. They don't have the cushy life western women have. That's the reason I cringe everytime I see someone using the word "freebie" in reference to a working girl in Indonesia.

That being said, the girl who currently cuts my hair used to work Bats and Hard Rock about 7 years ago. She took the money she made there and went to hair styling school. She makes good money now working at the salon so doesn't sell herself anymore. She recently even bought a car for herself. She's still quite a hotty and I'd give 500k at the drop of a hat to sleep with her if she were interested. LOL! So there is hope for I**. Well, it is good to hear that some of them, like the one you portray, get out of this career. As for I**, though her story is sadly true, it really touched my heart which is why I wanted to share it here. I usually do not have this type of conversation with girls I know are WG's because I do not necessarily want to hear all the misery behind the fact that they are WG's. In I**'s case, I did not know she was a WG, it is only at the very end of a wonderful date day together that she opened up to me and told me of her circumstances which touched me even more as I was not expecting it and as I was little by little falling for her. As you say, for I**, as for many of these girls, there is a crossroad at some point where they either continue to sell themselves or they decide to move on with a more regular life.

Mandiri
05-28-07, 16:12
Hi Brothers,

The place is called X2, and it is made up of 3-4 different concepts (in terms of music), with a dining area as well. PanyaGuys,

I too have done a little bit of a survey with my Indo gal contacts and most of them say the same thing: it looks like X2 is mostly frequented by local Chinese Indo folks. I went passed it saturday night and there was a long line of people queuing to get in -- certainly a very hip place right now.

For those of you looking for a rich Indo chinese gal, that might be the place to go.

Mandiri
05-28-07, 16:15
Bulai69,

There is a report for you in the Restaurant section!

Exit93
05-28-07, 19:51
Hey Prof,

I have been watching you and your Bali escapades. Love them. Hehe. Maybe I'll go Bali and look for you! Well. I think those internet escorts are really crap. I did get to score at JKT during my last visit. But didn't take any pictures or I didn't know you guys would actually take pictures and post it. LOLZ. I frequent Thailand last time. I do really pay girls to be with me. The most I have paid is like RM4000 = slightly more than 1000USD. I'm kinda a crazy nut crack. Waste my money on these girls. But lolz. Cause of my fussyness. I GUESS I gotta settle for this and pay: (. I kinda like one of your MBARGO PICTURES. The lady wearing WHITE. Oh my lord.

Oh yes. During my last visit I have been to SUMO. Paid around 90k rupiah just to meet those girls. Anyways. The europeans / russians are not tat good looking. But those girls from China are quite hot. The freaking mama pimp told me that 1 night would cost me 3. 5 million rupps. LOLZ. YES. I'm a dick head and I paid. 10pm. 6am. Oh well. I'm going jkt and reaching at night on the 10th. GOING back to KL ON THE 13th. Any of you mongerers wanna meet up? you can than show me.

Ex

Zamziv
05-28-07, 21:15
My favorite in Jakarta.

I am talking about the one in Jl. Jend, gatol Subroto kav. 42-43

I visited the establishment more then 10 time withing last year. Always great Took the fuul service. Including 90 minutes of massage, hote stones and happy ending at the VIP room

All around cost 375000

Exit93
05-29-07, 03:50
Hey

Wondering what Jalan is this new place in Senayan called X2? It's good to find rich indo chinese girls :)

Mandiri
05-29-07, 07:13
Hey

Wondering what Jalan is this new place in Senayan called X2? It's good to find rich indo chinese girls :)It's located in Plaza Senayan, go to P4 and you'll find it there!

Good luck and please do report back.

Quim Reaper
05-29-07, 08:47
Guys,

I know this Post will make quite a few of you (inlcuding me! ) freak out but this is the reality sadly. As I am writing these lines, I am in bed with a WG from BATS who has just told me of the story of Santi (her BATS name), a 24 yo Javanese girl (her real name: Kasuci)Did Kasuci ever go by the name Suci at places other than BATS? I met a Suci working as a hostess/GRO at Jaya pub a couple of years ago and she would be about that age now - of course many of the girls in the bars are about that age.

Pussy Master78
05-29-07, 12:19
Hi Exit 93,

X2 is located on the 4th floor in Plaza Senayan. Just tell the taxi driver to bring u to the X2 entrance lift behind Plaza Senayan, he will know the place. The usual entrance fee is 80k and u r entitled to enter 4 different clubs in the establishment. Equinox is another club in this establishment which has live band and very nice decor and environment. Vintage is also another club in this establishment which plays house music and a more relax place. X2 opens only certain days and NOT everyday and it plays Trance music. Pls bear in mind that the drinks are not cheap. Bought Long island for approx 97k per glass. But IMHO, thats the most happening place in Jakarta!

Menteng
05-29-07, 13:05
She has said she'd go out with me if I'm looking for a girlfriend, but not just to pay her for sex. I haven't figured her out yet.

Careful!! ;)

Menteng
05-29-07, 13:08
I just had the biggest shock and totally surprised me, I needed some professional models for a real photoshoot, not just a fun shoot and wanted to book the model for one day. The prices they came back with for good looking girls but not what i would call supermodels floored me.

The cheapest was 30 juta and the dearest 60 juta, then to add insult to injury they insisted on garuda flights and that I pay for a chaperone and 5 star accommodation. These people have no Idea. In all honesty I now am bringing a top Australian model up for the day, she will stay for 4 days as well as the flight for 15 juta max and noone to hold her hand.

I honestly think they just saw the bule name on the email and thought theycould get someone who wouldnt know better. I've played this game too long and i know the girl wouldnt be getting even half of that fee in indonesia... I love the way they just think we are complete idiots who have no idea about what happens in the real world. Oh well makes me want to open a modelling agency and fix the market.

I think Bulai69 can help you out, if you still want an Indonesian model!

Mighty Spearsman
05-29-07, 16:33
...I do really pay girls to be with me. The most I have paid is like RM4000 = slightly more than 1000USD. I'm kinda a crazy nut crack. Waste my money on these girls. But lolz. Cause of my fussyness. I GUESS I gotta settle for this and pay: (I kinda like one of your MBARGO PICTURES). The lady wearing WHITE. Oh my lord.

During my last visit I have been to SUMO.... those girls from China are quite hot. The freaking mama pimp told me that 1 night would cost me 3.5 million rupps. LOLZ. YES. I'm a dick head and I paid. 10pm. 6am. Oh well...
I see that we've moved from last week's discussion about freebies to the opposite extreme - overpaying!

I don't want to flame you, Exit93, you're welcome to be a high-end roller, but it's really not necessary.

For example, the "lady wearing white" in one of Bali Semut's photos would probably be happy to spend a whole week with you, multiple pops per day, for RM4000, which comes out to about 10 juta (10 million) rupiah, or over US $1,100. Heck, she'd probably spend a whole month with you, and give you an uncovered BJ at every meal!

Regarding the Chinese girl at Sumo, keep in mind that 3.5 million juta works out to US $400 at the current exchange rate - ouch! Remember, those prices at Sumo are negotiable. And I'm curious - once the lights went out, could you really tell the difference between the 3.5 million rupiah Chinese girl and the local girls here? If so, please post some details here!

XXL
05-29-07, 21:17
... once the lights went out, could you really tell the difference between the 3.5 million rupiah Chinese girl and the local girls here? I for one could tell the difference, because the Chinese girl would have me wear a condom for my jutas and I wouldn't be able to sustain an erection. JKT is a strange place, one of its strangenesses is that quality doesn't follow prices.Beyond a certain price quality of service even drops because you get imported goods and they don't compare to the local goods. I remain convinced that the best a bule can get at present in JKT is to be had for exactly 220 kRp, not a penny less, not a penny more.

Menteng
05-29-07, 22:20
I remain convinced that the best a bule can get at present in JKT is to be had for exactly 220 kRp, not a penny less, not a penny more.

I think it's 223K ;). That's what I paid there last time.

Smoothy
05-30-07, 05:32
I met a Suci working as a hostess/GRO at Jaya pub a couple of years ago and she would be about that age now - of course many of the girls in the bars are about that age.

Suci at Jaya pub was a little charmer! I haven't seen her around anywhere in a long time.

Exit93
05-30-07, 07:25
Heyz,

Thanks on the whereabouts of X2. Really appreciate it guys. Hope those rich indo Chinese are not like asking for more than 500k haha. Well on the price of girls. I'm extremely fussy about ladies I plan to have the night with. Usually if I can't get those pretty ladies I rather go back lonely to my hotel and wank myself to sleep or maybe just sleep. LOLZ. Well on that " Girl in White " I hope she is still around. Plannin to go Bali and bring her back to my home country. LOLZ. Is she still at Mbargo. Bali semut aka Proff. Please get her contact or her name. Hehehe. Maybe I can spend you a whole night of drinks

Now. Lets say if I plan to play with those girls longer and plan to bring them to my home country, do you think they would follow for NO PAY? Cause I think I paid for their trip to and fro and lodging and food? Would you think that would be fair or you think I have to give them extra tips before sending them back off to the airport? Have any of you tried that?

As for Sumo, the bloody mama pimp told me that the 3. 5 mill rupp is not negotiable. Sigh. Quite sad though. LOLZ. The girl which I had a night with "the Chinese" didn't use condoms with me. But I opt for it as I'm quite scared LOLZ. AIDS AND STD'S: (.

Will report back on my stints in jkt when I'm there from 10th. 13th nex month. Any of you wanna meet up? We can go fishing together?

EX

Hotel Man
05-30-07, 10:03
Regarding the Chinese girl at Sumo, keep in mind that 3.5 million juta works out to US $400 at the current exchange rate - ouch! Remember, those prices at Sumo are negotiable. And I'm curious - once the lights went out, could you really tell the difference between the 3.5 million rupiah Chinese girl and the local girls here? If so, please post some details here!Coming all the way to Indo and Chinese girls? Man please go for the local (indo) natives, they are are best and friendly people.

Brandon88
05-30-07, 17:35
I reported on action in the airport hotel a couple of months ago. On my recent trip I confirmed what I have believed for some time, that many of the girls apparantly waiting for someone coming in off incoming international flights are merely there to be picked up.

As always, I was quick of the flight and into the arrivals area where I saw at least four girls (not together) amongst the usual crowd waiting for people coming in. I looked at them and they all smiled back so I simply picked the best one, walked up to her and said "are you waiting for me?". (This is a pretty safe approach as you could always pretend you were new in and had someone waiting for you.). The girl was around 22, very pretty and "my type" of body. She replied "maybe", so I just said "OK, perhaps we can go for coffee somewhere". She said "OK", I said "back to my hotel?" and that was it. Could not have been easier; back at my hotel we showered together and got straight down to business, a couple of hours later she was in a taxi heading home (or back to the airport for the next flight), happy with with 300k in her bag.

Later that night (Wednesday) I had a look in 30Bar: absolutely dreadful - that place has really declined in the past couple of years or so; there was nothing in there I would have had, even if I had been desperate.

Very interesting! I used to avert my eyes and rush through the pack so as to minimize the bother of the taxi touts. Next time I go, I'll be scanning the crowd a bit more closely.

Exit93
05-30-07, 18:59
Hey Hotel Man,

I think you misunderstood. If look and track back. I'm looking for indonesian MODELS or pretty ones. So please get your facts right AND TRACK back before you flame.

I'm just relating a few incidents where I'm willing to pay thats all. GEez

Ex

James 006
05-30-07, 23:30
Do you know where to find a good price from Bali to Bangkok?
Do anyone know if there is a budget agency/flights.
Any boats?

The only tickets I found on the net was bussiness flights. More than the ticket from Europe to Bankok!

Thanks!

1Ball
05-31-07, 01:30
Do you know where to find a good price from Bali to Bangkok?
Do anyone know if there is a budget agency/flights.
Any boats?

The only tickets I found on the net was bussiness flights. More than the ticket from Europe to Bankok!

Thanks!
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=603071&postcount=3516
I guess you didn't like my help? I have only flown this route 10 times a year, for the last 5 years.
Of course, now that you mention you are flying from Europe, the no brainer thing to do is the buy a ticket Europe Bali, on TG. It stops in BKK.

Or you could ask for a third time, somewhere else !

Ekspat
05-31-07, 01:50
Do you know where to find a good price from Bali to Bangkok?
Air Asia with one stop in Kuala Lumpur.
http://www.airasia.com/site/en/home.jsp

Cheers!

Exit93
05-31-07, 18:35
Guys,

If i want to hunt at the new hot place in town X2. Which is the best nearby hotel i can stay. Cheap budget ones around 30 USD?? :). And what is the walking distance like>?

Can't wait for my trip. 9 more days and counting before touchdown.

Hey any of you mongers wanna fish together?

Hotel Man
06-01-07, 04:43
Hey Hotel Man,

I think you misunderstood. If look and track back. I'm looking for indonesian MODELS or pretty ones. So please get your facts right AND TRACK back before you flame.

I'm just relating a few incidents where I'm willing to pay thats all. GEez

ExHi Exit,

Accepted. Take it easy.

HM

Knight 1001
06-01-07, 04:45
Guys,

If i want to hunt at the new hot place in town X2. Which is the best nearby hotel i can stay. Cheap budget ones around 30 USD?? :). And what is the walking distance like>?

Can't wait for my trip. 9 more days and counting before touchdown.

Hey any of you mongers wanna fish together?

I don't know of cheap hotels in the plaza senayan area. The two nearest ones I can think of are the Mulia, (where CJ's is), and the Athlet Century Park, which is within walking distance (5 minutes) from Senayan, and unless they went broke, they are much more than 30 USD per night.

RTTF and you will find info on Blok M which is 2 busway stops from the senayan / ratu plaza area.

X2 is probably not the right place for you: it costs 80,000 Rups (9.2 USD today) to get in as cover charge, though you get a drink ...

Enjoy Jakarta

Exit93
06-01-07, 15:25
[QUOTE=X2 is probably not the right place for you: it costs 80,000 Rups (9.2 USD today) to get in as cover charge, though you get a drink ...

Enjoy Jakarta[/QUOTE]Hey Knight,

I think you havent been reading my previous post. I do not pay for the place I stay. LOLZ. I JUST wanna have more firepower to have the girls that I want Those "model" types which makes you drool. LOLZ. Well those hotels at senayan that you mentioned what is the cheapest room rates there?

By the way I would be arriving at jkt at night. How much is it from the airport to senayan?

Ex

Bulai69
06-01-07, 23:48
Do not get a taxi from the desks in front of you after you passed through the last customs check, they will be asking 35USD or more pre-paid Go outside, ignore the taxi touts and get a Silver Bird which will cost you about 10USD on the meter plus a small charge for the toll road. Atlet Century Park is the nearest hotel to Senayan, check price on net (I use asiarooms) but it will be more than 30USD.

I should add that if you are trying to impress up market girls/models they won't be impressed with the Atlet or any other similar or cheaper hotel; you will need to be paying circa 100USD minimum. Jakarta girls are very well tuned in to the price of everything.

Also see my report on what you can find before you leave the airport!

Mongerxx
06-02-07, 03:38
Do not get a taxi from the desks in front of you after you passed through the last customs check, they will be asking 35USD or more pre-paid Go outside, ignore the taxi touts and get a Silver Bird which will cost you about 10USD on the meter plus a small charge for the toll road. Atlet Century Park is the nearest hotel to Senayan, check price on net (I use asiarooms) but it will be more than 30USD.

I should add that if you are trying to impress up market girls/models they won't be impressed with the Atlet or any other similar or cheaper hotel; you will need to be paying circa 100USD minimum. Jakarta girls are very well tuned in to the price of everything.

Also see my report on what you can find before you leave the airport!Actually you can save a couple bucks more than that now on airport taxis. For a while now the international arrivals have developed the same taxi system as the domestic arrivals. JUst walk to curbside and different taxi companies are assgined different parking spots marked with yellow signboards. So usually you can just grab a bluebird that is sitting there. If the blueburd space is empty there is usually a bluebird dispatcher who will call you one.

Also, an equally honest yet even cheaper cab is "Taxi Express." The taxis are all white with "Taxi Express" written on the side. They still use the 4000 meter down rate rather than the 5000 meter down date. Granted you will be getting a better car with Silver Bird. But hey you never know when you will need that extra 20K firepower to close the deal on a model type?

Knight 1001
06-02-07, 06:06
Hey Knight,

I think you havent been reading my previous post. ...... I JUST wanna have more firepower to have the girls that I want Those "model" types ..... what is the cheapest room rates there?
Ex

2 quick points Exit:

- When someone asks a question to this forum for help, and unless there a compelling reason to do so, I don't go back checking their previous posts. So no I did not read them: I reacted to whatever you said and implied.

- As Bulai put it later, you will not impress anyone by wanting to take a model type girl to a cheap hotel: chances are she'll drop you to go back if she sees where you're taking her. Those girls may not be the brightest but they sure know the value of things and relate it to what they can expect to get from you. Why do you think that the girls ALWAYS ask you as a second question ¨"Where do you stay" within 10 seconds after you meet them? Think about that.

If you want to be coherent with your search and intent, the Mulia is probably the best solution for you. I heard you could get it for around 120 USD. From my days when I used to travel here for business, I always found that the hotel booking desk at the airport, just near the bagage delivery belts, had very good rates for 5 star hotels.

Hope above will help and welcome to Jakarta. Let us know how you do with models: I'm curious.

Cheers.

Exit93
06-02-07, 14:28
Hello,, guys,

Thank you very much bulai. Let me relate what happened on my 1st trip. It was an incident where I was screwed over by airasia cause I was slightly late on my flight to medan. They do not allow me to check in. So I thought what the heck chose and later flight and off I flew to jkt. The jakarta trip was unintended and not expected. And so I didn't make any guide checks on the jakarta trip and went there like a blind man. Lolz.

As usual cause that place is my 1st time I'm blind and saw the 1st sign of indo hotel bookings. So I booked: (. Jln jaksa. Forgot what hotel is it. But it was cheap tho. 150k rupiah. But the taxi to that place is another 150k. Fuck. Got conned I presume.

That is my comment on my trip. I'm smarter now.

Knight. Thank you once again for all your help. Maybe we got off on a wrong footing. I meant those well. I guess you are right as well on the hotel issue. I don't care if I am staying at a motel. Just want good girls hehehe.

Bulai, I have been following your reports and lurking. I know you have picked up a girl "waiting for you at the airport" lolz

I'm planning to be at x2 on my 1st night and then to plaza atrium in the afternoon then sumo in the evening the bats the next day

Ex

Samchad
06-02-07, 15:06
Hi,

I'm hoping to be in Jakarta this month or July. Have heard about BLOK M. What is the rates for short and long stay? Is there chance of getting oral service in one of the bars in Blok M? Thanks for your replies.

Rimzalia
06-03-07, 01:08
Good Day,

I am a Newbie for this forum. Due to that, I seek your kind opinions.

I am planning to go Bandung and Jakarta, Indonesia in July. So, I hope that some of you can provide me some guide in where to stay in both cities where the actions are.

My current initial plan is to stay in Bandung first during the weekends, with minimal clothes and jeans because you can buy those in Bandung. My friends told me it is reasonable there. While there for 3~4 days, I'll will do normal sightseeing, nature, day to day life and girls (Yes, I did not forget). Then, I plan to go to Jakarta via 3 hours trains ride from Bandung because the ride give out a great view. I stay in Jakarta for another 3~4 days. I like to stay where it is easy to get to the Sokerno-Hatta Airport because they told me the traffic jam is really bad and might caused you to miss your flight.

As you see, I got some idea in Bandung but when come to Jakarta. My mind just totally blow off. Any suggestion to make my trip more enjoyable.

10 Q

Rimza Lia

Knight 1001
06-03-07, 07:32
Good Day,

I am a Newbie for this forum. Due to that, I seek your kind opinions.

I am planning to go Bandung and Jakarta, Indonesia in July. So, I hope that some of you can provide me some guide in where to stay in both cities where the actions are.

..... I like to stay where it is easy to get to the Sokerno-Hatta Airport ......

........ but when come to Jakarta. My mind just totally blow off. Any suggestion to make my trip more enjoyable.

10 Q

Rimza Lia

Rimza,

I am assuming that because you are new, you probably are not aware of what is already here in this forum in terms of information: let me tell you then, there's enough to keep you busy monguering for the next 5 years non stop ... so go to the definition of terms page then find out what RTTF means then, well, just RTTF.

A good hint would be that you probably should start with the reports of distinction. The rewards should follow soon.

Enjoy Jakarta

Knight 1001
06-03-07, 07:33
Hi,

I'm hoping to be in Jakarta this month or July. Have heard about BLOK M. What is the rates for short and long stay? Is there chance of getting oral service in one of the bars in Blok M? Thanks for your replies.

Your answers are all over this forum, if only you RTTF.

Why are you guys so lazy ?

Adam C Day
06-03-07, 10:41
Rimza,

I am assuming that because you are new, you probably are not aware of what is already here in this forum in terms of information: let me tell you then, there's enough to keep you busy monguering for the next 5 years non stop ... so go to the definition of terms page then find out what RTTF means then, well, just RTTF.

A good hint would be that you probably should start with the reports of distinction. The rewards should follow soon.

Enjoy JakartaHe might find it difficult to locate RTTF.

Read The Ticklish Forum
Read This Tiny Forum
Rate That Titillating Fuck

:D

Bulai69
06-03-07, 12:15
Certainly you are right and searching for a taxi in arrivals it can be a way of saving time if there is a queue at Silver Bird. However, for those new to Jakarta there is a risk of being ripped off so new comers need to be careful.

Personally I always pre-book a silver Bird through the hotel which costs about 30% more but saves time and it's chargeable but if I was paying myself I would certainly do as mongerxx suggests

Joel Goodsen
06-03-07, 14:04
Is there chance of getting oral service in one of the bars in Blok M? Thanks for your replies.
You'll find the Bali Hai a place of interest, it is renown and has quite a reputation for this type of action.. Key it in and do a search in this thread, you'll get many hits.

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Exit, I've been reading, but you're a funny poster. 1 trip, staying in a hotel in Jalan Jaksa and then paying 3,5 million for a girl at Sumo.. (?) with all the best intentions in the world, that doesn't add up. Best of luck in X2.

Exit93
06-03-07, 16:53
Heyz,

I know I'm kinda screwed up in terms of stayin at the hotels. But if its the love box I'; ll pay. Haha. When it comes to girls my pocket grows big and in terms of where I'm sleeping it goes so small. Lolz.

Well. Indonesia here I come

Ex

Mighty Spearsman
06-03-07, 17:58
Good Day,

I am a Newbie for this forum. Due to that, I seek your kind opinions.

I am planning to go Bandung and Jakarta, Indonesia in July. So, I hope that some of you can provide me some guide in where to stay in both cities where the actions are.

My current initial plan is to stay in Bandung first during the weekends, with minimal clothes and jeans because you can buy those in Bandung. My friends told me it is reasonable there. While there for 3~4 days, I'll will do normal sightseeing, nature, day to day life and girls (Yes, I did not forget). Then, I plan to go to Jakarta via 3 hours trains ride from Bandung because the ride give out a great view. I stay in Jakarta for another 3~4 days. I like to stay where it is easy to get to the Sokerno-Hatta Airport because they told me the traffic jam is really bad and might caused you to miss your flight.

As you see, I got some idea in Bandung but when come to Jakarta. My mind just totally blow off. Any suggestion to make my trip more enjoyable.

10 Q

Rimza Lia
Knight 1001 is correct, RTFF!

But I'll help you out in one area where the info on the subject may not be clear. There is one good hotel near the airport, the Sheraton Bandara, but the problem here is that you're far away from town and where most of the action is.

Yes, there are many horror stories of people missing their flights because they got stuck in traffic on their way to the airport. One reason for this traffic is the heavy rains and flooding here, luckily we are now at the end of the rainy season. A second reason is the in-town traffic just to get from your hotel to the toll road to the airport. I live within walking distance to the toll road entrance, but one day last week at 5 p.m. it took me 45 minutes to get from my apartment complex to the toll road and only 25 minutes more to reach the airport.

So if you're worried about getting to the airport, here's a compromise - stay at the old Hilton, which is now called the Sultan Hotel. It's located next to an entrance to the toll road, so even in times of heavy traffic you are fairly sure of reaching the airport in less than one hour from the Sultan. The Sultan is also located on Jl. Sudirman and the main north-south Transjakarta busway, convenient to Blok M, Plaza Indonesia, and fairly close to the three infamous bars BATS at the Shangri-La, 30 Bar at Le Meridien, and C.J.'s at the Mulia, as well as this new place X2 that's been discussed a lot all of a sudden.

I look forward to some good posts from you about your experiences here in Jakarta - that's the least you can do in return for all of the free information to be found here!

Left unsaid is why Jakarta doesn't have an "Airport Express" train similar to that in Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur and many other cities. Supposedly one is planned but won't be open until 2012 or later.

********************

Knight 1001 and others are correct is suggesting that any newbie "RTFF" especially the "Reports of Distinction" section, which should help you answer most of your questions within 5 minutes.

Exit93
06-04-07, 00:51
Hey Guys,

Since I've booked a hotel at Senayan area 50USD ++ atlet century park: D internet rate. Wondering where can I monger DURING THE AFTERNOONS? Any place in particular? Heard alot about atrium. Is atrium near senayan?

And regarding the issues about taxis. Since silver bird or blue bird are the more reliable taxi's. To get from 1 place to another using silver or bluebird taxis usually where do I get them? Or I ask them to wait? Lets say I wanna go to plaza senayan for mongering, should I ask these taxi's to wait or there would be alot of bluebirds or silverbirds waiting near the taxi stands?

Your info and recommendation is much appreciated. Will try to get pics starting from now. Have been screwing around for years and didn't take any pictures: (. And give FR.

Ex

Mighty Spearsman
06-04-07, 05:04
Hey Guys,

Since I've booked a hotel at Senayan area 50USD ++ atlet century park: D internet rate. Wondering where can I monger DURING THE AFTERNOONS? Any place in particular? Heard alot about atrium. Is atrium near senayan?

And regarding the issues about taxis. Since silver bird or blue bird are the more reliable taxi's. To get from 1 place to another using silver or bluebird taxis usually where do I get them? Or I ask them to wait? Lets say I wanna go to plaza senayan for mongering, should I ask these taxi's to wait or there would be alot of bluebirds or silverbirds waiting near the taxi stands?

Your info and recommendation is much appreciated. Will try to get pics starting from now. Have been screwing around for years and didn't take any pictures: (. And give FR.

Ex
Unfortunately the Atrium Mall is nowhere near the Senayan area. It's located a bit northeast of the MONAS Monument (the phallic monument in the center of downtown, also known as "Sukarno's Last Erection") whereas the Senayan area is a few miles south of MONAS, near the Youth Monument (also known as the "Pizza Man" statue).

But yes, the Atrium Mall is good for daytime mongering, and Plaza Senayan should also be good. Or you could hop down to the Hotel Melawai at Blok M, take the elevator to the 6th floor, and have a 1-hour daytime session with one of the cuties there, 300,000 rupiah plus a small tip (50,000?). Ask for Evie, Citra or Sandra.

Bluebird taxis are easy to find virtually everywhere. All of the big malls such as Plaza Senayan, Senayan City (where the new X2 is supposedly located, it's across the street from Plaza Senayan, same owner as Plaza Senayan, different mix of shops), Plaza Indonesia, etc. will have Blue Birds waiting at the taxi stand outside the main entrance. No need to keep a BB waiting for you at any of these malls.

One warning - make sure you are in a real Bluebird taxi! Unfortunately there are some competing taxi cab companies whose cabs are also painted blue. This is actually a serious matter - about once a month a passenger gets robbed while inside a taxi, and it is always a blue-colored taxi cab but never a Bluebird. A real Bluebird will have the words "Blue Bird" on the front windshield, up top.

I take taxis 4-5 times a day, and I always take either Bluebird, Express (white) or Gamya (forest green color). In a pinch I'll take Koperasi taxis (ugly orange and green), which are ok but all of them seem to be cabs from the 1980s.

I rarely take Silver Bird taxis in town, but I always take a Silver Bird going to and from the airport. And Bulai69 is right - if you're a newbie to Jakarta, your best bet is take a Silver Bird to avoid getting ripped off. The price to go from the international airport to Atlet Century Park should be whatever is on the meter (probably 100,000 to 120,000 rupiah), plus 9,500 rupiah for the tolls and an 8,000 rupiah airport surcharge, which is a legitimate charge (you only pay it on the way into town). plus a small tip (around 10,000?).

Yes, my fellow members and I are all looking forward to some actual reports and photos from you (instead of questions) :)

Exit93
06-04-07, 13:38
Unfortunately the Atrium Mall is nowhere near the Senayan area. It's located a bit northeast of the MONAS Monument (the phallic monument in the center of downtown, also known as "Sukarno's Last Erection") whereas the Senayan area is a few miles south of MONAS, near the Youth Monument (also known as the "Pizza Man" statue).

But yes, the Atrium Mall is good for daytime mongering, and Plaza Senayan should also be good. Or you could hop down to the Hotel Melawai at Blok M, take the elevator to the 6th floor, and have a 1-hour daytime session with one of the cuties there, 300,000 rupiah plus a small tip (50,000?). Ask for Evie, Citra or Sandra.

Bluebird taxis are easy to find virtually everywhere. All of the big malls such as Plaza Senayan, Senayan City (where the new X2 is supposedly located, it's across the street from Plaza Senayan, same owner as Plaza Senayan, different mix of shops), Plaza Indonesia, etc. will have Blue Birds waiting at the taxi stand outside the main entrance. No need to keep a BB waiting for you at any of these malls.

One warning - make sure you are in a real Bluebird taxi! Unfortunately there are some competing taxi cab companies whose cabs are also painted blue. This is actually a serious matter - about once a month a passenger gets robbed while inside a taxi, and it is always a blue-colored taxi cab but never a Bluebird. A real Bluebird will have the words "Blue Bird" on the front windshield, up top.

I take taxis 4-5 times a day, and I always take either Bluebird, Express (white) or Gamya (forest green color). In a pinch I'll take Koperasi taxis (ugly orange and green), which are ok but all of them seem to be cabs from the 1980s.

I rarely take Silver Bird taxis in town, but I always take a Silver Bird going to and from the airport. And Bulai69 is right - if you're a newbie to Jakarta, your best bet is take a Silver Bird to avoid getting ripped off. The price to go from the international airport to Atlet Century Park should be whatever is on the meter (probably 100,000 to 120,000 rupiah), plus 9,500 rupiah for the tolls and an 8,000 rupiah airport surcharge, which is a legitimate charge (you only pay it on the way into town). plus a small tip (around 10,000?).

Yes, my fellow members and I are all looking forward to some actual reports and photos from you (instead of questions) :)My fello comrade Spearman..,

Thank you for your kind reports. I'm SURE I'll give you my reports. BUT ONE THING. Just wondering. LOLZ. ITS WEIRD taking pictures during sex. Havent done it. LOLZ. Another thing. I have been to Blok M before. Who is Evie, Citra or Sandra? Are they mama pimps?

By the way from Atlet hotel is it a walkable distance to X2 or to the mall areas which you mentioned? Sorry if I asked too much. I'm too noob. LOLZ.

EX

Mongerxx
06-04-07, 19:44
Certainly you are right and searching for a taxi in arrivals it can be a way of saving time if there is a queue at Silver Bird. However, for those new to Jakarta there is a risk of being ripped off so new comers need to be careful.

Personally I always pre-book a silver Bird through the hotel which costs about 30% more but saves time and it's chargeable but if I was paying myself I would certainly do as mongerxx suggestsActually, there is no time saving difference except for the difference for seeing the bigger Silverbird sign at the curbside. Seriously, just walked to the curb and look at the small orange (or yellow?) signs with the name of taxi company at the entrance to every taxi parking space. There will be a bluebird taxi within no more than 150 feet of the silverbird stand, and it may even be closer to the door they exit from. Also it appears the bluebird stand has an attendent just like the silverbird stand.

Taxis are not nearly as cheap as they were a couple of years ago in Jakarta. So while not saving time you may save yourself four or five bucks going to town doing as I recommend. However, if you are afraid that you can't actually read these signs, strongly prefer a slightly vehicle, or strongly prefer a slightly new vehicle then splurge on the silverbird. I just think the uniform tale the Silverbird from the airport reccomendation is dated infromation and doesn't reflect the current taxi setup at the international arrivals.

Tiny 12
06-04-07, 23:23
If you want to go to Plaza Senayan, just walk out the back door of the Atlet. You don't need a taxi. And, BTW, if you want to avoid the walk of shame with your date, walk back in through the same door.

But I don't think Plaza Senayan is a good place for mall hunting. I say that with some trepidation because I'm not an accomplished mall hunter like some here. I've run across more available women in Plaza Indonesia and Pasaraya, even though I've spent a lot more time in Plaza Senayan.

Spearsman's suggestion of 6th Floor Melawai was my favorite daytime option when staying at the Atlet and the Mulia, although I haven't been by there since the trouble with the police. There are a lot of daytime options around the area where Jalan Hayam Wuruk and Jalan Mangga Besar intersect -- just look through this thread -- but it can be a long haul from the Atlet if the traffic is bad, and you better be happy porking women you can't communicate with, because not many speak English. That said, in the afternoon you'll run across a lot of young hotties at Tiara Ceria and other places, something you won't find in the Melawai hotel.


Hey Guys,
Lets say I wanna go to plaza senayan for mongering, should I ask these taxi's to wait or there would be alot of bluebirds or silverbirds waiting near the taxi stands?

Exit93
06-05-07, 00:04
Heyz

Thanks Tiny for your kind advice.. One last question .. After much research :) wasted alot of time and effort just to find nice tight love boxes and stumbled upon this web address.

http://www.webdonline.com/fr/services********message.asp?id=615107&msgid=4115938&poster=0&ok=0....

It says in JKT there is this under Hi class escorts Hartono escort agency, EKA , and Kamasutra which you need to pay thru your nose to get high class models or actresses.. Im quite interested... any comments on these?

Will still check on price though. as the LT price around 20 million rups and that is year 2000 :( I think..

I await comments :D

Ex

Memekman
06-05-07, 04:10
My grateful thanks to the brothers for providing information on Sentral at Pasar Mayestik. For guys like me who have a wife in town and don't have many opportunities to sneak off and need to monger during the day, this place is a godsend. On my last visit I asked for the "pake love" with Mona since on of the brothers had recommended her services. She wasn't available but the old harpy at the counter suggested Dewi and after seeing her photo, I agreed.

Dewi was cute slim bodied with small budding perky tits.She was extremely GFE. She gave me a massage and a lovely BBBJ. I followed it up with a missionary and doggie style in the time that remained. I'd give her 8 or even 9/10 on all counts.Sure I plan to be back as soon as I can and ask for her again.

Smoothy
06-05-07, 04:32
Or you could hop down to the Hotel Melawai at Blok M, take the elevator to the 6th floor, and have a 1-hour daytime session with one of the cuties there, 300,000 rupiah plus a small tip (50,000?).

As far as I know, the price is 350,000 plus tip, not 300,000 plus tip. It's been that way a few years now.

Rainman 2108
06-06-07, 19:37
Your answers are all over this forum, if only you RTTF.

Why are you guys so lazy ?


Hi Buddy..... At last... got my connection at home.... Now I am back...

Call me ya....

Cheers

Bulai69
06-06-07, 21:49
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]" If you want to go to Plaza Senayan, just walk out the back door of the Atlet. You don't need a taxi. And, BTW, if you want to avoid the walk of shame with your date, walk back in through the same door.

But I don't think Plaza Senayan is a good place for mall hunting. I say that with some trepidation because I'm not an accomplished mall hunter like some here. I've run across more available women in Plaza Indonesia and Pasaraya, even though I've spent a lot more time in Plaza Senayan."

I think it's more difficult to find a girl in Plaza Senayan than, at the other extreme, Atrium, but if you do find one she is likely to be much more up-market. Whereas girls certainly go to Atrium specifically in order to be picked up, I think this is rarely the case in PS. Plaza Indonesia is similar to PS in this respect but certainly some girls go there just to be picked up; this applies anytime day or night and at night there are a variety of pimps hanging around which I've never seen in PS. This is just a very general view and of course there are exceptions. As for picking up sales assistants, this is just as easy (or hard) in PS or PI though I've never tried that in Atrium (never needed to!)

Tiny 12
06-07-07, 01:53
[ Whereas girls certainly go to Atrium specifically in order to be picked up, I think this is rarely the case in PS. Plaza Indonesia is similar to PS in this respect but certainly some girls go there just to be picked up; this applies anytime day or night and at night there are a variety of pimps hanging around which I've never seen in PS.

I've noticed some that appeared to be on the game at PI, but have only picked up one. I'm not sure to this day whether she was a semi-pro or a "good girl". She worked at an insurance company in downtown Jakarta where she said she made about 1.7 million Rupiah/month. She never directly asked me for cash, but did insist we go shopping, and ended up extracting about a month's salary (hers) from me over a couple of days.

1Ball
06-07-07, 02:00
I've noticed some that appeared to be on the game at PI, but have only picked up one. I'm not sure to this day whether she was a semi-pro or a "good girl". She worked at an insurance company in downtown Jakarta where she said she made about 1.7 million Rupiah/month. She never directly asked me for cash, but did insist we go shopping, and ended up extracting about a month's salary (hers) from me over a couple of days.
You bring up an excellent point, Tiny. A WG who asks for cash ALWAYS is cheaper than a non WG. the non WG will milk you dry (pun intended). And since you met her at PI, she probably knows the place inside out, and knows EXACTLY what oleh2 she wants at any given time.

Mighty Spearsman
06-07-07, 04:19
As far as I know, the price is 350,000 plus tip, not 300,000 plus tip. It's been that way a few years now.
You're absolutely right, it's 350,000 rupiah plus a suggested tip of 50,000 for a girl at Maribaya Spa in Hotel Melawai. Sorry for the typo.

Who is Evie, Citra or Sandra? Are they mama pimps?
Evie, Citra and Sandra are 3 of the young lovelies who work at Maribaya Spa during the day shift.


Actually, there is no time saving difference except for the difference for seeing the bigger Silver Bird sign at the curbside. Seriously, just walked to the curb and look at the small orange (or yellow?) signs with the name of taxi company at the entrance to every taxi parking space. There will be a Bluebird taxi within no more than 150 feet of the Silver Bird stand, and it may even be closer to the door they exit from. Also it appears the Bluebird stand has an attendent just like the Silver Bird stand.

Taxis are not nearly as cheap as they were a couple of years ago in Jakarta. So while not saving time you may save yourself four or five bucks going to town doing as I recommend. However, if you are afraid that you can't actually read these signs, strongly prefer a slightly vehicle, or strongly prefer a slightly new vehicle then splurge on the Silver Bird. I just think the uniform "take the Silverbird from the airport" recommendation is dated information and doesn't reflect the current taxi setup at the international arrivals.
Mongerxx's post about the improved taxi set-up at the airport is correct. But my comments were intended for a newbie, and I would still recommend that a pure newbie to Jakarta take Silver Bird from the airport their first trip if possible, the Silver Bird driver is more likely to speak at least some English and will not rip you off.

Unfortunately I still hear stories on a regular basis of newcomers getting ripped off; the normal trick is that the driver refuses to use the meter and instead tries to negotiate a fixed price that is much higher than the fare that would result from using the meter. Two weeks ago a newbie took one of the no-name taxis from the airport to the Marriott in Kuningan and was charged (and paid) an off-meter rate of 500,000 rupiah (almost US $60), which is five times the normal price.

While I usually take a Silver Bird, it's partially because (a) my company is paying or (b) I'm with several other people including kids. If any of you are alone and paying out of your pocket, then you might consider taking Blue Bird, Express or Gamya as a cheaper option to Silver Bird - it's up to you.

Panya
06-07-07, 06:16
You bring up an excellent point, Tiny. A WG who asks for cash ALWAYS is cheaper than a non WG. the non WG will milk you dry (pun intended). And since you met her at PI, she probably knows the place inside out, and knows EXACTLY what oleh2 she wants at any given time.

Just to add-on to 1Ball's astute comments to Tiny, I re-established contact with a mama-san at a karaoke that I used to frequent. This is the sms that she sent me this morning.

“ Ok no problem Babe, I just booring at hm … No Money, no boy friend n I want work again but not as shit girl, maybe As Recept. Or As Ass manager. Sorry Babe, last time with u I was love someone, but I like u too, one day I must control my self n decided not c u again. 3 months ago I found him with 3 shit girls n no more chance 4 him, even he wanna buy car 4 me. Sorry Babe, I just need someone to share my problem. Now I’m drunk from last nite. Actually I wanna c u 4 sure last time when u here. Give me time again Babe. I knew u and I’m scare to know the other man. I miz u …”

I really hope to meet the guy who "dumped" her ... 3 girls + her at the same time !!! I have a lot to learn from him LOL !!!!

Best,
Panya

Smoothy
06-07-07, 11:54
Panya, I think we may be seeing the same girl.

Rimzalia
06-07-07, 12:05
10 Q to Might Spearman and Knight for your advice.

Since, nothing in life is free and this forum work because we trade information. I just like to inform members in this forum that the new BKK airport will have its own Airport Express which they called "Airport Link". If we are lucky, it will be operational in before X'mas this year. When I was in BKK early May this year, they are still assembling the overhead railway.

Panya
06-07-07, 13:10
Panya, I think we may be seeing the same girl.

Smoothy,

If you're the guy with her plus 3 others all at once ... all hail, Esteemed Brother Smoothy!! :D But, why offer her a car??? RTFLMAO !!!

Seriously, though, don't expect fidelity when we are infidels -- I remembered that she asked me for a new Nokia N70 for her birthday last year. She never wanted any money from me, and felt insulted the 1st time I offered, even throwing it on the floor and said she's not that kind of girl. Now the cat's out of the bag that she was in luv with someone else at that time!! (And I'm certainly no Brad Pitt .. actually, I prefer George Clooney.)

So, does the (perceived) GFE of (so-called) non-WG compensate for the presents and shopping that we end up paying for? Or is it cheaper to pay off a WG for the deed each time?

Best,
Panya

Mighty Spearsman
06-07-07, 13:37
...is it cheaper to pay off a WG for the deed each time?

Best,
PanyaIMHO, it is much cheaper to pay a WG for the deed each time, especially here in Jakarta, where not all but many of the WGs will provide a GFE as well. That's why I've been with Cynthia of Kartika an estimated 20 times since early 2006, and I also visit certain lovelies at Maribaya 6th floor on a regular basis.

Exit93
06-07-07, 18:00
Hey Guys,

Don't know if we are from the same wave length. I think around a month ago. I went to Blok M, at hotel Melawai. I do not see any spa over there. But just a bar. Of course I ended calling one of the girls that work over at the bar called Nensy.

Is there a spa on the same floor? Or you guys meant a bar?

Sorry if we are not talking about the same hotel!

Ex

Sapperken
06-07-07, 21:14
Hi guys,

How great is this? I've managed to blag 6 days and nights in Jakarta in early July. I'll be like a dog with 2 dicks (or I reckon I'll need 2 dicks). I'm busy planning my agenda already: Maribaya spa, Kartika, BATS etc. So many ways to have fun. Might even try a trip with brother JAD. And to cap it all I get 2 nights in Surabaya at the end of it. Life is goooood

My apologies for this smug post but I needed to share

SK

Knight 1001
06-08-07, 12:38
Exit,

Sorry but I can't resist this : it's called a spa because that's where you get your dick head licked, kissed and washed clean, hehehe ...

Does it do it for you ?

Ciao


Hey Guys,

Don't know if we are from the same wave length. I think around a month ago. I went to Blok M, at hotel Melawai. I do not see any spa over there. But just a bar. Of course I ended calling one of the girls that work over at the bar called Nensy.

Is there a spa on the same floor? Or you guys meant a bar?

Sorry if we are not talking about the same hotel!

Ex

Smoothy
06-08-07, 14:02
Smoothy,

If you're the guy with her plus 3 others all at once ...

Being with 3 girls in Jakarta isn't exactly difficult.

But that's not me. The girl I see occassionally gave me that EXACT same sob story about coming home and finding her boyfriend in bed with 3 girls, etc etc etc. Either it's the same girl or that's the story of the month for these girls. They do like so find a story they like and share it among friends.

Mandiri
06-08-07, 16:01
Based on some of the reports posted here recently, decided to go to the Central massage place at Mayestik. Came in and asked for the "pake". I was quoted 485k for an hour. I declined because 485k for an hour of massage/FS is above market rates ! The Dewi and Monna mentioned in earlier posts were not working on that very day.

I then went to "Bersi Sehat" next door -- a very clean massage joint (no extra's) but great massage for 120k (90mn).

Mandiri
06-08-07, 16:32
I have not been to Tiga Pulu in a while. Has the place really gone down the drain, or is it still alive and rocking? I seem to meet quite a few folks who used to hang out at Tiga Pulu and who now have changed quarters (BATS, CJ's etc.).

Liondale
06-08-07, 19:01
Was back in Jakarta last week. Started off well by being tricked in the airport. Was looking for a Silver Bird taxi and refused a lot of other offers, did not tell anyone I was looking for Silver B, but a guy came up and asked if I was looking for that so I confirmed. He pulled out his wallet and showed a Silver B logo, but think it was just a paper copy or something. Anyways, followed him to his car and it was def not SB, but it was new and clean so I thought what the heck, ended up paying 350k, which I guess is totally overprice... I usually get picked up at the airport so it was the first time I had to manage by myself. Guess I will do better next time.

The driver did get me safely to Hotel Muliah though, and well inside I was happy to see that this is also the hotel for a lot of aircrews so I thought I might get lucky with a stewardess later. My first meeting with CJ's made me forget all about aircrews though, what a happening place :)
Only downside is that there were more than enough guys, so it was crowded and not that easy to really get around and see all the girls. Settled on one that met my standards though, and was happy to find that she could communicate reasonably well in English. She also had a bunch of friends there. Wasn't sure if she was WL or not, so took it slow, bought her a drink etc. She told me her ex-boyfriend was also from my country, which I figured was a nice pickup line.
Later when I took her up to my room, things went haywire though. First she seemed very drunk. Then she started crying! I wasn't exactly sure why, but I think it was because of her ex or something. Anyway, I decided not to push it, so actually offered her to sleep it off in her own bed (there were two beds in my room), but she soon found the strength to get going on me. However, the sobbing/crying was on and off more or less the whole time, so it wasn't really pleasant. I asked her repeatedly if she was ok, which she confirmed though. In the end I got tired of it, so just stopped and said that we should sleep. She called a friend and gave the phone to me, the friend said she was sorry, that it was this girl's first time in "town" but that she would like some money :) I just said ok, ok, ok, and we went to sleep.
Next morning I did pay her - 500k which I understand should be the going rate? And wished her luck. Not going to seek her out again.
Sadly that was my only night. So already looking forward to the next time.

One amazing thing happened though. I while back I did hook up with a real freebie, an upper class girl who I am quite sure would not accept any of my donations. But through some very unfortunate events I managed to lose her number. As I was leaving Jakarta I ran into her again - daytime - in a totally different place than we had met earlier. What's the odds for that?! So exchanged numbers again and at least there is a chance for repeat now.

Ok, not the best of stories but they can't all be sunshine.

Bulai69
06-08-07, 23:34
My experience is that it has definitely gone down the drain - sadly, as I always stay at the Meridien. As always, some nights are better than other (weekend) but it's nothing like it was a couple of years ago. It was at its best when BATS closed down a few years ago but declined when BATS re-openned and really declined after it was "renovated" last year. I have been in the some mid-week nights recently and there hasn't been one single girl I would take even if I was desperate - and that is a serious indictment!

Bulai69
06-08-07, 23:47
Panya, my friend, although you ask this question: "So, does the (perceived) GFE of (so-called) non-WG compensate for the presents and shopping that we end up paying for? Or is it cheaper to pay off a WG for the deed each time? - I think you already know the answer!

Tiny 12's story is very typical of what happens with "non WG's" who you find in the up-market malls: without doubt you always pay much much more "per occassion" over the long term with this kind of girl buying "presents" etc. "Long term" in this context can be a few days or weeks or months.

Objectively, as I sit here in UK, it's clear to me that it's lunacy, in Jakarta, to do anything other than go with WG's, pay them around 500k (plus or minus a bit depending on quality) and get as good an experience as you'll get anywhere with stupendous value for money. However, when I'm there, objectivity rapidly goes out of the window! The trick is to make sure the presents are chargeable to clients and/or tax deductable......

Smoothy
06-09-07, 06:11
The problem 30 has is that it kept that black band around too long and it seemed to attract the "black" crowd. Not that black people are bad worldwide, but I think we all know that many of the blacks hanging around in Jakarta are best to be avoided. They are most often dealing drugs, and are basically up to no good. They used to be mainly at JJ's in the old days. I don't think it's a coincidence that JJ's is out of business. They are still in 30, but you don't see them in Bats or CJ's very often. It's killed their business, yet they do nothing about it.

Case in point, the recent incident in 30 where the hitam guy was supposedly robbed of over 10,000 usd he was carrying in 30. 30 and My Bar are the two places those people are hanging out, so I avoid both for the most part.

I think the current band in 30 may be the best one in town right now, it's a shame the place doesn't have the crowds anymore.

Jaimito Cartero
06-09-07, 06:58
Have you figured out how to have a new car or apartment expensed? :)


Panya, my friend, although you ask this question: "So, does the (perceived) GFE of (so-called) non-WG compensate for the presents and shopping that we end up paying for? Or is it cheaper to pay off a WG for the deed each time? - I think you already know the answer!

Tiny 12's story is very typical of what happens with "non WG's" who you find in the up-market malls: without doubt you always pay much much more "per occassion" over the long term with this kind of girl buying "presents" etc. "Long term" in this context can be a few days or weeks or months.

Objectively, as I sit here in UK, it's clear to me that it's lunacy, in Jakarta, to do anything other than go with WG's, pay them around 500k (plus or minus a bit depending on quality) and get as good an experience as you'll get anywhere with stupendous value for money. However, when I'm there, objectivity rapidly goes out of the window! The trick is to make sure the presents are chargeable to clients and/or tax deductable......

Ekspat
06-09-07, 07:47
Anyways, followed him to his car and it was def not SB, but it was new and clean so I thought what the heck, ended up paying 350k, which I guess is totally overprice...
Yes, totally overpriced but finally you should consider yourself lucky by getting out of the car at the right place with "just" paying 350k.
Such stories can end up in much worse scenarios. It's simply not worth the risk to drive with those guys for saving 20k or so.
Don't feel safe because you're in a car. You aren't safe.

Cheers!

Blunderer
06-09-07, 10:43
Case in point, the recent incident in 30 where the hitam guy was supposedly robbed of over 10,000 usd he was carrying in 30. 30 and My Bar are the two places those people are hanging out, so I avoid both for the most part.


Am I the only one to wonder what sort of business someone carrying 10k US around in a bar in Jakarta at night is likely to be into?

A leap of logic perhaps, but not a huge one, to suggest that perhaps he was a target irrespective of which bar he visited?

Tamurlane26
06-09-07, 16:41
The stories of yesteryear bring back such sweet memories. My first night out in Jakarta was in JJ's following a short trip to Tanamour where I was involved in a dirty dancing that was on the top stage and nearly cost me my trousers ! From there to JJ's - to show how old it is it was when Leeds United were in the Champions League - what a strange memory to have.

The place would rock around the clock and we even had the driver sleeping in the car until we were ready to leave. Next morning my boss forgot his wake up call and missed his flight to Singapore.

Sadly all good things come to an end and when the drugs gang starting hitting it up was the time to stop going there. Next stop was 30 but that has sadly declined to the point where I have to agree with B69 in that the quality in there now is way below the past.

From there it moves to Mulia and when you have a rate of 70USD on thehotel it makes you lazy to move out and about. Much to my amusement one of the girls called me all sorts one night as they thought I lived in Jakarta - they overlooked the fact that i have business in Jakarta and therefore regularly frequent the place - sadly this means you realise after a while the limitations of the fishbowl and perhaps it is time to move on. Then again Batz is full of the expense account brigade who alas have a tendency to push the price up much to my amusement.

Life is becoming far too drole these days and perhaps am not the only one wondering where have all the beauties gone. Perhaps it is a sign of age or more likely we are faced with a current crop who are not as worthy as their predecessors - who are now all enjoying themselves at the expense of those who pay the regular bills.

There are the choices of the Panya approach - long term relaxed relationship - against the B69 approach and confess am of the opinion that it is the latter that is in the end more cost effective. What you need to do is find a nice circle of steadies in case another member has cast his net and hit on the same one and therefore you are left short for the night. This is a tactic that serves me well - on a recent occassion dulled by the poor crowd saw one of the steadies and even as she was being chatted up texted her to meet me outside and the rest as they say was history. Even had her ironing the shirt for the meeting the next morning - that is the beauty of Jakarta for you !!

Happy Weekend to all

Jilat Meki
06-09-07, 19:18
I will be soon visiting Jakarta and Bali for several weeks with my bisexual gf, who is into asian women as much as I am. We would really like to hook up with one or more bisexual women, preferably for all-night or more than I day. Anyone have any leads or suggestions?

Menteng
06-10-07, 01:10
Have you figured out how to have a new car or apartment expensed? :)

I guess you don´t know about the Range Rover and the country-house Bulai owns out there in the country-side. Not to mention the Ferrari and apartment in Belgravia, London ;).

Menteng
06-10-07, 01:16
I will be soon visiting Jakarta and Bali for several weeks with my bisexual gf, who is into asian women as much as I am. We would really like to hook up with one or more bisexual women, preferably for all-night or more than I day. Anyone have any leads or suggestions?


Maybe she´s still there, but pearlycurl (or was it curlypearl?) at yahoo and AFF might be the one you are looking for. Brother Ebowan might also know how to contact her.

Baldmale
06-10-07, 09:17
Yeah, 30 is very empty. They've changed the band last week or so. Do not know if it good or not. Too many troublesome african guest. Friday is the best day to visit though, some nice girls, especially the twins.

Smoothy
06-11-07, 03:38
Hi Guys,

Was invited to boys night out party, would anyone be interested to go any file a report? Because I will out of town that weekend.

I'll go if I can hook up with the girl you posted the other day.

Memekman
06-11-07, 04:22
Based on some of the reports posted here recently, decided to go to the Central massage place at Mayestik. Came in and asked for the "pake". I was quoted 485k for an hour. I declined because 485k for an hour of massage/FS is above market rates ! The Dewi and Monna mentioned in earlier posts were not working on that very day.

I then went to "Bersi Sehat" next door -- a very clean massage joint (no extra's) but great massage for 120k (90mn).Then they've hiked their rates. As I remember, it used to be 410k till quite recently. May be that's more than Hotel Melawai 6th floor but for guys like us, it's worth paying that amount for the safety factor and not being seen. By the way, talking of rates what's the "going" rate for Bintang Mawar. Last time I paid 270k incl room as the mamasan would not negotiate. Is that OK?

Panya
06-11-07, 04:32
There are the choices of the Panya approach - long term relaxed relationship - against the B69 approach and confess am of the opinion that it is the latter that is in the end more cost effective.

However, when I'm there, objectivity rapidly goes out of the window! ......

Guys,

You took the words right out of my mouth. Heck! I'd go for the WGs everytime, but I am a sucker for GFE .. no, I NEED GFE (or some semblance of it) in order to perform.

I get tired of ploughing dry, barren fields, being turned down for BBBJ, and the inhibition of LT/overnite with a stranger next to you, wondering whether she's gonna slit your throat in the middle of the night.

Quite awhile ago, I had an arrangement with a WG from a karaoke, and would give her a call everytime I touched down. The last time, she was actually on a day-outing with her kid, but she parked him somewhere and came to my hotel. She actually told her kid that "Mama got to go get some money to take you shopping." Needless to say, I couldn't perform, and just gave her some money (I'm a real softie ;)) -- and that was the last time I went for pick-ups.

At least in KTVs, we have 3-4 hours with the girl, confirm that there's some chemistry, before we go ST.

You know, I think the best is to have non-WGs for 1-2 outings, i.e. before they start thinking of sinking their claws into you, and just move on. This way, we can POSSIBLY :) avoid the unpleasantness of breaking up. I do envy Menteng's "projects" and Tamurlane's circle of steadies.

As Bulai rightly put it, we may all be well-prepared, but once a non-WG is in front of us and looks like the recent one on the Photo Gallery from Alvinyanto ... it all goes out the window.

Enough said ... anybody feel like a beer together this Wed or Thu night? I'll be in town, and would love some company. Please PM me if you feel like meeting up.

Best,
Panya

Ebowan
06-11-07, 04:32
Maybe she´s still there, but pearlycurl (or was it curlypearl?) at yahoo and AFF might be the one you are looking for. Brother Ebowan might also know how to contact her.

Hi brudder,
we know how we can get the ladies... hahaha...
Bro actually I know how to contact her but I am quite reluctant to promote that lady since she is probably married already ;) .

Some WG are willing to do a lesbian act with another lady, still we are friendly to ask these first.

Best regards to you

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU

Ebowan

Exit93
06-11-07, 07:30
Hey guys,

Like I said I'm gonna be in JKT from the 10th to 13th. To my disappointment X2 are usually closed on Sunday's till Tues or Wed. That is what the security guard told me. ARGH! Still in JKT. Any other recommendations?

Well. Hope you guys take note

Ex

Joe Marieg
06-11-07, 08:18
I am a big ISG fan and Golf Fan, i am planning to go to Cengkerang this week, have thursday and friday early morning, planning to tee up around sunrise, and return to the city after lunch, wondering if there are any folks who would like to play golf as well.

I heard that the golf course is nice, and the extra holes are nicer. looking forward.

Any word of advice will be appreciated as well

Mighty Spearsman
06-11-07, 17:16
My experience is that it has definitely gone down the drain - sadly, as I always stay at the Meridien. As always, some nights are better than other (weekend) but it's nothing like it was a couple of years ago. It was at its best when BATS closed down a few years ago but declined when BATS re-openned and really declined after it was "renovated" last year. I have been in the some mid-week nights recently and there hasn't been one single girl I would take even if I was desperate - and that is a serious indictment!
Just wanted to write a quick report to confirm what Bulai69 wrote about the declining quality to be fou8nd at 30 Bar.

A buddy who stays in the same apartment building as me is moving to Singapore, so last Wednesday evening I dragged him over to Le Meridien for drinks in the lobby bar, from 9:30 to 11:10 p.m. We sat in the front "no smoking" section, right by the bartender, which meant that we had a good view of the young ladies walking by on their way to the escalator down to 30 Bar.

Within 15 minutes the parade had started. The first group of 4 girls featured 3 plain-looking girls plus one very pretty short thin girl in a white blouse and black mini-skirt who appeared to be 19 years old. A minute later a fairly tall, stunning-looking girl walked by alone, this one looked to be 23 years old or so. But after that the quality plunged, with the girls passing by getting more ugly by the minute.

Atr 11:10 pm my buddy and I decided to head out, since we both had to work the next morning. As we headed to the front door, the 23-year-old, fairly tall stunner emerged from 30 Bar, hanging onto the arm of a 50-ish white male. Lucky guy! They hopped into a Silver Bird and rode off into the night.

So, the bottom line was - any guy walking into 30 Bar at 11:11 p.m. would have found only one good-looking 19 year old and the rest of the bar filled with "fugglies." Chances are the 19 year old would have been grabbed a few minutes later, and that would have been it! Slim pickings indeed.

Panya
06-12-07, 03:03
I am a big ISG fan and Golf Fan, i am planning to go to Cengkerang this week, have thursday and friday early morning, planning to tee up around sunrise, and return to the city after lunch, wondering if there are any folks who would like to play golf as well.

I heard that the golf course is nice, and the extra holes are nicer. looking forward.

Any word of advice will be appreciated as well

JM,

Tried to send you a PM, but you have either not turned it on or subscribed to it. Have fun, though!

Best,
Panya

Smoothy
06-12-07, 03:31
Slim pickings indeed.

I was there last Friday night. I sat there alone for 1 hour from 11pm to 12 and there wasn't a single attractive girl in the place. Probably 10 different dogs took their shot at me in that hour "what's your name, where you come from" but I wasn't interested in the least. At around 12, a stunner walked in and I jumped on her 2 seconds after she walked in the door. 3 other guys followed her in from the outside area to take their shot, but they were too late - she was off the market. LOL! Thank God I moved so quickly because when we left together at 1:30am there still wasn't another attractive girl in the place. Quite sad considering that is supposedly their peak night and 5 years ago there would have been 30 stunners in the place fighting over the bules.

Laksi1234
06-12-07, 07:42
Dear all experienced members,

I have a plan to go to JKT at the end of this month, I'm looking for some good massage parlor with Bj on the side can you recommend some place and names, would be appreciated. I'm gonna stay at Mulia and work around Ratu plaza.

Thanks a million.

Laksi1234
06-12-07, 09:04
Dear all writer,

I'm going to JKT at the end of this mo. will be staying at Mulia, and i'm looking for Massage parlor with bj can i get some recommendations?

Place and name?

Thank you

Menteng
06-12-07, 19:34
Enough said ... anybody feel like a beer together this Wed or Thu night? I'll be in town, and would love some company. Please PM me if you feel like meeting up.

Best,
Panya

Would´ve love to gentleman Panya, but I´m working on a project here in covered country: Colombia. I found out that "a project" is the best bet to go uncovered. The way I like it. :D

BTW, you may have found a compatriot with similar hobbies in Joe Marieg!

Menteng
06-12-07, 19:40
Bro actually I know how to contact her but I am quite reluctant to promote that lady since she is probably married already ;) .

Some WG are willing to do a lesbian act with another lady, still we are friendly to ask these first.

Best regards to you

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU

Ebowan

Brother Ebo,

I saw her profile in AFF with her preferences, after she got married.
Are you still traveling by train from Bekasi ? ;)

Smoothy
06-13-07, 05:59
Dear all experienced members,

I have a plan to go to JKT at the end of this month, I'm looking for some good massage parlor with Bj on the side can you recommend some place and names, would be appreciated. I'm gonna stay at Mulia and work around Ratu plaza.

Thanks a million.

I recommend reading prior posts in this forum. There are literally hundreds of suggestions.

Mighty Spearsman
06-13-07, 19:24
A few weeks ago I posted a report that there was a 'returnee' girl working at Kartika to recommend. Her name is Rista (pronounced "Krista"), # 115. She started working at Kartika in 2003 (when she was just 20 years old), then she left work in mid-2005 to have a baby, then just returned to work in April 2007. I had three sessions with her in 2004 and one more in February 2005, and I'm glad to see that she's returned to work.

Not a stunner by any means, but she has a cute face, is very very short, small breasted but decent figure, her ass looks great when she wears her thong under a miniskirt. The best part is that she easily has the tightest pussy I've ever found on any working girl in Jakarta - hard to believe she's given birth or has been working in MPs for as long as she has. Not quite a GFE (although she's getting close), but a very good service provider - great oral attention and cowgirl finish, just lie back and enjoy the show.

I've now had three sessions with her since her return, each better than the ones before - great oral attention followed by a great cowgirl performance to the (covered) finish each time. I would now rate her as one of the "Top 5" girls in Jakarta for her oral skills, and recommend that any of you at least consider her the next time you're at Kartika. Only drawback is that her English, which was decent in 2004/05, has completely disappeared from being back home in her kampung to have her baby.

Left unsaid is the story about becoming pregnant while working in a massage parlor, and not knowing for sure who the father might have been.

Brandon88
06-13-07, 21:08
A few weeks ago I posted a report that there was a 'returnee' girl working at Kartika to recommend. Her name is Rista (pronounced "Krista"), # 115. She started working at Kartika in 2003 (when she was just 20 years old), then she left work in mid-2005 to have a baby, then just returned to work in April 2007. I had three sessions with her in 2004 and one more in February 2005, and I'm glad to see that she's returned to work.

Not a stunner by any means, but she has a cute face, is very very short, small breasted but decent figure, her ass looks great when she wears her thong under a miniskirt. The best part is that she easily has the tightest pussy I've ever found on any working girl in Jakarta - hard to believe she's given birth or has been working in MPs for as long as she has. Not quite a GFE (although she's getting close), but a very good service provider - great oral attention and cowgirl finish, just lie back and enjoy the show.

I've now had three sessions with her since her return, each better than the ones before - great oral attention followed by a great cowgirl performance to the (covered) finish each time. I would now rate her as one of the "Top 5" girls in Jakarta for her oral skills, and recommend that any of you at least consider her the next time you're at Kartika. Only drawback is that her English, which was decent in 2004/05, has completely disappeared from being back home in her kampung to have her baby.

Left unsaid is the story about becoming pregnant while working in a massage parlor, and not knowing for sure who the father might have been.


Have you not yet met Ella in Bats? I thought that was the tighest despite being busy.

Joe Marieg
06-14-07, 02:58
JM,

Tried to send you a PM, but you have either not turned it on or subscribed to it. Have fun, though!

Best,
PanyaHi Panya,

Actually I just logged in today, also dont know how to use the PM.

JM

Mighty Spearsman
06-14-07, 04:13
Have you not yet met Ella in Bats? I thought that was the tightest despite being busy.
Sorry to say, I have not yet met Ella. Believe it or not, I've only been in BATS once, and then only briefly, around dinner time on a weeknight when the place was almost empty. Due to family considerations, I am rarely out in the evenings. Virtually all of my reports posted here since the beginning of 2006 relate to afternoon mongering activities; in all that time I've been out in the evenings on only three occasions, including last week's visit to the lobby bar at Le Meridien.

Having said that, now I'll have to figure out a way to hook up with Ella, to make a detailed comparative study between her pussy and Rista's pussy! :)

Smoothy
06-14-07, 08:36
now I'll have to figure out a way to hook up with Ella, to make a detailed comparative study between her pussy and Rista's pussy! :)

That shouldn't be hard. Just go to BATS. She's there quite frequently. Ella's been on the scene a long time now. I did both her and her sister 6 or 7 years ago and she's still in Bats almost every night. (I prefer her sister because of her big breasts, but she is lower profile than Ella for some reason). They both still say hello to me everytime I see them anywhere in Jakarta even though I haven't been with either of them in years.

I definitely would not rate either Ella or her sister as the tightest pussy in Jakarta. But both are a fun ride.

Mandiri
06-14-07, 16:43
Hi,

I have RTFF on this and other forums and found very valuable info on Yahoo Messenger chatrooms, Camfrogs and some others. I have not yet found reviews of dating sites with a good Indonesia focus. Can anyone shed some light as to what are the best ones as of today?

Appreciate the pointers,

Genpao
06-15-07, 18:33
Anyone can tell me which massage palour can find Local Chinese girl (not PRC Chinese) in Jakarta, thanks a lot !!

Genpao
06-15-07, 18:39
Anyone knows in which massage palour I can find local Chinese girl (not PRC Chinese girl)?

Thanks a lot!

Bulai69
06-15-07, 20:57
Mandiri - have you tried friendster.com? It's not a dating site per se but there are literally thousands of girls from Jakarta (especially) and elsewhere in Indonesia. If you ask any girl in Jakarta if she is on friendster 9/10 will say "yes". They usually just call it "fs". If you chat on Yahoo messenger and you are not sure if they are what they say they are just ask if they are on friendster. Just say "ada fs".

The vast majority are NOT on fs specifically to find a "boyfriend", though some certainly are and a small number are clearly hookers. I never have the time (or the requirement!) to use it when I'm in Jakarta but when I've nothing better to do in UK I often use it and 7 or 8/10 girls will reply favourably if you send them a (polite) message. This can lead to what I rather suspect you are looking for; I've met 2 or 3 girls on this basis and "scored" each time.

Mandiri
06-16-07, 04:04
Mandiri - have you tried friendster.com? It's not a dating site per se but there are literally thousands of girls from Jakarta (especially) and elsewhere in Indonesia. If you ask any girl in Jakarta if she is on friendster 9/10 will say "yes". They usually just call it "fs". If you chat on Yahoo messenger and you are not sure if they are what they say they are just ask if they are on friendster. Just say "ada fs".

The vast majority are NOT on fs specifically to find a "boyfriend", though some certainly are and a small number are clearly hookers. I never have the time (or the requirement!) to use it when I'm in Jakarta but when I've nothing better to do in UK I often use it and 7 or 8/10 girls will reply favourably if you send them a (polite) message. This can lead to what I rather suspect you are looking for; I've met 2 or 3 girls on this basis and "scored" each time.Many thanks Bulai. Yes I have just tried this Friendster thing for about 48 hours and it seems to give good (initial) results. Will report back when anything more meaningful happens.

Thanks again

Hari Hari
06-16-07, 06:42
Was looking for a Silver Bird taxi and refused a lot of other offers, did not tell anyone I was looking for Silver B, but a guy came up and asked if I was looking for that so I confirmed. He pulled out his wallet and showed a Silver B logo, but think it was just a paper copy or something. A.Taxi counter just located at the exit point of arrival hall. I took a Silver Bird taxi to Mangga Dua for RP150,000. They issue a resit at the counter and the girl from the counter with walkie-talkie will direct you to the taxi. Last time they use a MPV (without silver bird logo) and the driver very friendly.

Don't ever get taxi from road side at airport, especially not a taxi. In town area, always look for blue bird group taxi.

Safety is more important.

Jackyung
06-16-07, 07:29
The vast majority are NOT on fs specifically to find a "boyfriend", though some certainly are and a small number are clearly hookers. I never have the time (or the requirement!) to use it when I'm in Jakarta but when I've nothing better to do in UK I often use it and 7 or 8/10 girls will reply favourably if you send them a (polite) message. This can lead to what I rather suspect you are looking for; I've met 2 or 3 girls on this basis and "scored" each time.Wow brother its a very good piece of information. I am from malaysia. Heard that even at shopping complex the chance of a guy score with a girl is very high here in Jakarta. Is that true?

Smoothy
06-16-07, 13:30
Did Kasuci ever go by the name Suci at places other than BATS? I met a Suci working as a hostess/GRO at Jaya pub a couple of years ago and she would be about that age now - of course many of the girls in the bars are about that age.

I knew I had a picture of Suci taken by hand phone. Here's Suci from Jaya Pub.

Hatze
06-16-07, 14:59
I for one could tell the difference, because the Chinese girl would have me wear a condom for my jutas and I wouldn't be able to sustain an erection. JKT is a strange place, one of its strangenesses is that quality doesn't follow prices.Beyond a certain price quality of service even drops because you get imported goods and they don't compare to the local goods. I remain convinced that the best a bule can get at present in JKT is to be had for exactly 220 kRp, not a penny less, not a penny more.XXL,

It's stupid enough that you refuses to take condoms - but please dont use this as an argument to go for local girls.

I dont care if you get infected with HIV, but every girls you force to uncovered FJ is of my serious concern. Do yourself a favor and visit one of the many HIV or TB clinics in Jakarta ! Even an obvious ignorant guy like you will learn about the true picture in Jakarta. Threats like yours should be excluded from this forum as it gives the impression that there is no risk involved.

If you have problems with getting an erection, see a doctor or buy some blue pills - or be happy with getting BBBJ´s, which consequenses can at least be treated relatively easily.

Hatze
06-16-07, 15:35
hi folks,

the amount of ads for call-in massages in jp gets bigger and bigger.

of course, i dont want to talk about any "for man-by man" shit...

does anybody of you have some experience ? especially how it works with the galleries which some of them mention sometimes. (any link to share ?)

to share my experience:

i tried it once some time ago. there was a guy who picked up the phone and could not speak much english. i told him my address, we agreed on the price (500 tidr for 3 hours) and i asked him to send the therapist fast as i did not have a big time-window.

90! minutes later, the girl was delivered by a driver who entered the parking area of my house (which i did not like) and who asked for the money. the girl did not look too bitchy but of course my security guys knew what this visit is about (what i did not like either).

however, i let her in and she told me that i have one hour. i got a bit pissed and called the number again. finally the girl gave in and we had 3 hours as initially discussed with the big pimp. we went to the the work room and as expected there was not much about massage involved (beside the balls).

after the action she went home by taxi.

i did not gave her any tip because of the incident in the beginning.

the girl was in average 4/10 - pretty standard.
bbbj: 6/10
fj: 5/10
cim: -

my executive summary would be:

nothing special for a reasonable price, in case of a private-house delivery, it is too obvious, hotel delivery should be better.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Liondale
06-16-07, 19:55
Taxi counter just located at the exit point of arrival hall. I took a Silver Bird taxi to Mangga Dua for RP150,000. They issue a resit at the counter and the girl from the counter with walkie-talkie will direct you to the taxi. Last time they use a MPV (without silver bird logo) and the driver very friendly.

Don't ever get taxi from road side at airport, especially not a taxi. In town area, always look for blue bird group taxi.

Safety is more important.

Thanks for the tip. Checked my receipt and found that it said Silver Cab :)
Guess I should be glad I got out in one piece and with all my belongings.

Bulai69
06-16-07, 23:59
"Heard that even at shopping complex the chance of a guy score with a girl is very high here in Jakarta. Is that true?" - it certainly is! Look back at recent postings or search on mall hunting. The situation in JKT is not like KL.

Menteng
06-17-07, 01:29
Left unsaid is the story about becoming pregnant while working in a massage parlor, and not knowing for sure who the father might have been.


You had covered sex with her recently, but how was it back in 2005? :D

Jackyung
06-17-07, 07:52
"Heard that even at shopping complex the chance of a guy score with a girl is very high here in Jakarta. Is that true?" - it certainly is! Look back at recent postings or search on mall hunting. The situation in JKT is not like KL.Thanks once again. Hehe. My next destination surely is Jakarta hehe.

Janturr
06-17-07, 16:37
Hi mongres,

This afternoon, I stopped by at My place, a nice massage place in Senayan. I just want to have a relaxed massage there. Pretty busy. Got directly to the second floor, where you would chose your masseurs. But, you can only choose from numbers listed there. Got number 42. Waiter told me to wait about 5 minutes, then I ordered a drink.

Then, a beautiful lady escorted me to the massage room on the forth floor, and the masseus was already waiting in front of the room. The room was nice, with shower attached.

Got a real good massage, and the lady was nice in her handling. She continued to touch my private parts, and it was nice. At the end of the massage, she asked if I wanted a hj, saying it was part of the service. Wow, it's wonderful. It's really beyond my expectation. I thought I had to pay additional cost for hj, but it's not. As I said okay, she started the hj slowly. But, unfortunately, she would not undress, but she allowed me to touch hers. After coming, I had shower, and she washed me there. Fishing all the session, I went downstair, and changed cloth. (I did not tip her because my wallet was left in the locker). The damage is the price list 280k plus the drink, and I left the place hapily.

Location: If you are from Semanggi, go in the direction to Slipi, and before Slipi, turn left at Manggala Wanabakti, and go straight and you will find a traffic light, and still go straight, and you will find Hotel Mulia on your left and go straight still, and right before the traffic light, you will see new shop houses complex there, and get into this complex, and you will easily find My Place.

Genpao
06-17-07, 23:01
Looking for local Chinese, look at Halai, but beware bring a local friend, it not you will hit for a ride

AlvinCan you tell me where is 'Halai'? Is it a good massage place?

Dom Perignon
06-18-07, 03:29
I will be in JKT tonight.

A girlfriend of mine suggest me to go to BATS

Is it quite or still ok on Monday nights?

Someone want to join for a drink?

Ildom

Panya
06-18-07, 04:20
After years of prowling the Sudirman and Blok M area, frequenting Korean and Japanese style karaokes, I have been following with great interest comments about Hai Lai.

My very first visit to Hai Lai was in 1996, and at that time, I felt that it was pretty run-down compared to KTVs in Kuala Lumpur and Singapore. I opened a "package" that gave me a total of 5 bottles. I remembered during one of my trips that it had a fire, and of course, my bottles went up in smoke as well.

Last week, a local friend took me to a newly opened karaoke in Pangeran Jakarta (I think) area, located in the Lindeteves Building. The place is called SUN CITY, and it was very, very impressive.

Walking in, you are immediately wowed by the decor, and sense of exclusivity. From the front entrance, there is a small stage in front of an extended bar, where a local band is playing. There are various GROs seated and they look very sultry, eyeing you as you walk-in.

We walked through the entire place on the way to our KTV room, and everything was plush and luxurious, very similar to what I saw in X2, only much bigger and grand.

The room we were assigned to had an attached bathroom, and the door to the room proper was thickly padded -- sound-proofed! There were 3 plasma displays, one for the song selections, one for the singinging, and the next one showing ESPN programs. The amazing thing is that the room had a split level, with a staircase that led upstairs to a small balcony, from which you could look down on your friends as they were singing and dancing, and this was the smallest room in the entire place! At the balcony, there was a leather divan, the size of a large single bed, and I was told to avail myself with the girl I was with, if I was so inclined.

The entire establishment was very skewed towards Chinese, mama-sans were all pattering away in Mandarin, and you had selections of PRCs and local girls to choose from. They even had PRC mama-sans who could speak Bahasa Indonesia.

The prices are sky high -- it cost Rp 500,000 for a local girl, and Rp 600,000 for a PRC just to sit with you. For FS, they had an adjacent hotel that you could go to, and it cost Rp 1.5 million for a local, and Rp 1.9 million for a PRC.

I opted for a local girl, and we were shown 3 parades of about 10 girls each, before I selected one girl. My observation is that despite the high-class ambience, the local girls available were just so-so, averaging 5 to 6 in terms of looks. Most of them were quite chubby, and the only good thing was that they were dressed in gowns and proper attire. But, as the saying goes, you can bring the girl out of the 'kampung' but you can't bring the 'kampung' out of the girl.

Compared to Korean-style establishments, I think the girls in Sun City are below expectations. In Korean and Japanese style places, we had slimmer and sexier bods to choose from. The girls are also more wanton in allowing caresses and "playing" with you.

My girl in Sun City was quite frigid, as even after a couple of hours and many drinks, I couldn't even cop a feel of her breasts.

In summary, I would frequent these places (I was told that Sands and K-7 are similar) only if I had a very big potato of a client to entertain, and needed to splurge on him to get a huge contract.

Other than that, I don't think the prices are in any way reasonable -- we seem to be paying more for the decor, and what the hell for?

Best,
Panya

Smoothy
06-18-07, 04:26
Thanks once again. Hehe. My next destination surely is Jakarta hehe.

I was in Pattaya about 6 months ago and met a guy there who when I mentioned I lived in Jakarta, he let me know that he had recently visited Jakarta because he'd read online on this site that you can easily pick up girls at the malls. He said he tried several malls and had zero success. He also said he never could find the Atrium mall that had been mentioned so often. (It's not the easiest place to find, I'll admit.)

Please do not be misled by the statement that "you can easily pick up girls at the malls". It's not as easy as you'd think at most malls. If you go to Atrium mall, it's no problem because that's a down market shopping plaza known for that kind of thing. If you go to a place like Senayan City, you can expect to have a rough time of it picking up any girls. It's possible, but not easy. Senayan City is a nice, modern shopping mall and is more like the malls you'll find in KL. Any mall in Jakarta is still a better pick up spot than in KL, but it's only certain ones where it's easy. The quality of girls you'll find at a place like Senayan is about 10 times better than at Atrium, but the girls at Atrium are much easier to pick up.

Those of us who have been to Jakarta many times will easily be able to pick out the girls who are possible pick ups. But someone new on the scene will not be able to pick them out so easily. A place like Atrium mall, they are basically all there to be picked up so it's like shooting fish in a barrell. But I dont know of another mall in town like that and the quality of the girls is low to average at best. And if you do see a good one, move immediately or you will not have a chance at her 5 minutes later since she'll be taken by some local.

Panya
06-18-07, 04:40
Before going to Sun City, I was out with a Japanese business associate, and decided to visit Cosmos again. The last time I was there, a Singaporean friend took this girl by the name of Sharon, and I had made a mental note to try her on my next trip. She was 7.5 in looks, about 5ft 2 in, and B-cups -- my favourite ... slurp!

I called up the place and made reservations, and we arrived at about 10.30pm.

Mama-san informed that Sharon was not working that day (sometimes they let another customer take your girl, ya), so we had the parade. As the hour was quite late - by Cosmos standrads, we had only 8 girls to choose from.

I selected Tari, who had a lithe body, standing about 5ft 5in, with legs that went on forever, and looks 7 out of 10. My associate selected my 2nd choice, with C-cups and but was more chunky, although she looked more pretty.

We both ended up with the 2 girls in my hotel room, and I had to wait in the bathroom with my girl, while he had his session first. In the bathroom, Tari and I took a shower together. As we removed our clothes, I found that the A-cups on her body were just so sexy, as she had a super model figure. Her face was much prettier than I expected. During the shower, we played with one another, she gave me a BBBJ and I reciprocated with DATY with her resting against the shower cubicle, with her pelvis thrust outwards for me to lick her.

We adjourned from the shower to the counter-top, where I slipped on the condom, and she turned around for doggy-style. As she was almost the same height as I am, her pussy was higher than Little Panya could reach. So, after numerous unsuccessful attempts to slip it in, coupled with the amount of liquor consumed earlier, Little Panya let me down ... I didn't have any Vitamin C or Acer pills with me! :(

So, we decided to stop, and go out to join the other pair in the bedroom. We all chit-chatted for awhile, and I copped a feel of the C-cups of the other girl -- soft and droopy! After they left, Tari and I started DFKs and caressing each other on the bed.

I managed a semi-hard erection, and started pumping away, hoping to kick-start the hormones. After about 15 minutes, decided to give up, and asked her to give me a HJ, and shot my protein over her abdomen.

She was very understanding and considerate over the entire experience -- how sweet. Managed to get her phone number, and will definitely call her next time, as she's off on Tuesdays.

My observation of Cosmos, is that every girl who goes for an FS with the customers, somehow, they either do not turn up for work the next day, or actually stop work for awhile. It's been quite difficult for me to have a repeat session with the girls, especially when I find one that is a willing participant, and the sex is just great!

Could it be that they are pretty 'innocent', and feel traumatized when they are expected to follow customers back for FS? ;)

Best,
Panya

Master Diver II
06-18-07, 05:09
My observation of Cosmos, is that every girl who goes for an FS with the customers, somehow, they either do not turn up for work the next day, or actually stop work for awhile. It's been quite difficult for me to have a repeat session with the girls, especially when I find one that is a willing participant, and the sex is just great!

Could it be that they are pretty 'innocent', and feel traumatized when they are expected to follow customers back for FS? ;)
Best,
Panya

Only if the customer has a little Panya and forces them to work hard to wake "him" up!:D When are we meeting for TT/coffee/drinks bro?

MD II

Panya
06-18-07, 09:29
Only if the customer has a little Panya and forces them to work hard to wake "him" up!:D When are we meeting for TT/coffee/drinks bro?

MD II

Oooh yeaaa ... touche!

The great MDII finally re-surfaces, eh? Don't forget, our penile prints are supposed to be the same, if you believe what a famous FL in Malaysia said. ;)

Yes, let's do TT -- how about Monday 25th at Coffee Club in Plaza Senayan, say, 6.30pm, okay? Cannot? Why, why why? :p

Joe Marieg
06-18-07, 10:04
hi folks,

the amount of ads for call-in massages in jp gets bigger and bigger.

of course, i dont want to talk about any "for man-by man" shit...

does anybody of you have some experience ? especially how it works with the galleries which some of them mention sometimes. (any link to share ?)

to share my experience:

i tried it once some time ago. there was a guy who picked up the phone and could not speak much english. i told him my address, we agreed on the price (500 tidr for 3 hours) and i asked him to send the therapist fast as i did not have a big time-window.

90! minutes later, the girl was delivered by a driver who entered the parking area of my house (which i did not like) and who asked for the money. the girl did not look too bitchy but of course my security guys knew what this visit is about (what i did not like either).

however, i let her in and she told me that i have one hour. i got a bit pissed and called the number again. finally the girl gave in and we had 3 hours as initially discussed with the big pimp. we went to the the work room and as expected there was not much about massage involved (beside the balls).

after the action she went home by taxi.

i did not gave her any tip because of the incident in the beginning.

the girl was in average 4/10 - pretty standard.
bbbj: 6/10
fj: 5/10
cim: -

my executive summary would be:

nothing special for a reasonable price, in case of a private-house delivery, it is too obvious, hotel delivery should be better.i have had several calls to these ads as well. some were asking for 3m rupiah, for models. i have tried 2-3 times.

my first experience i got a lady around 30s but she was wearing a really sexy shirt which was my to my liking. the cost was 180k rupiah. can really do a massage. so i ended up getting her number and contacting her directly a couple of more times in the next several months. but i only did hj with this girl.

then i decided to call other services, which was not satisfactory.

the most recent one was 500k for 3 hours to my hotel, the girl did not speak any english, and seemed to be young. the experience was really bad.

and there was no really massage as well.

Mandiri
06-18-07, 14:21
I** is 24 years of age. She comes from a large city of Java and now lives in Jakarta. She has two half-sisters. A couple of years back she met a young European guy (26 yo) at the Stadium discotheque– both were high on pills then. He was on a vacation in Jakarta and from the happy weeks they spent together I** became pregnant. She did not want this child with him but her boyfriend, though he lives in a European capital city, insisted on her keeping the child. Anti-abortion laws in Indonesia not making it easy for women to abort, she had to keep the child, despite a few attempts at doing « self-abortion » with pills. A wonderful baby girl was born in August 2006. I** then went to spend three months in Europe, in the midst of the European winter, where the father lives. She tried hard to get used to her new circumstances but, not speaking the local language, having no local friends and not getting on well with her boyfriend she left Europe after 3 months, in February 2007. The whole in-law family were in tears then to see the baby girl head back to Indonesia.

I** is now back in Jakarta. She is on a 9-months hairdresser’s training school in Blok M. She is 2 months into this programme and has 7 months to go to complete the course. She can’t wait to complete the course and be able to start having an income from this occupation. Her father, who did not want to have a daughter but a boy and who spends money on girls, does not support her financially – she has not seen him in 4 years. Her boyfriend seems to be sending her some money every month for child support. This is not enough to live though. So she hangs out 2-3 times a week at Shangri La’s club, BATS, and when she fancies the guy who approaches her (she prefers Europeans she says) she goes with him and makes love in return for money which she needs to keep her and her daughter going.

I** is a very attractive slim girl with a beautiful dark skin, a beautiful shy smile. When she lived in Europe all the guys were after her to the point where her ex-boyfriend almost had to fight with them to keep them away from her.

Though she is only 24, one can already feel her intense experience of life and her sense of responsibilites for her child and also towards other working girls whom sometimes she helps financially with her modest pennies. She hates what she has to do for a living (she starts crying when she talks about it) and can’t wait to start her hairdresser’s career to get a regular income. She says she’s been with about 30 men to date, all seem to have treated her well. She exclusively goes with Bule guys and insists that she prefers European men.

I recently spent a full day with I**, about 20 hours or so in total. We went to a restaurant for lunch, then to a spa, then had dinner together and spent time together at my place – it was a great date day. I was little by little falling for I**.- so attractive and gracious, so sweet, so caring, so much sense of her responsibilities and such a big heart. When she finally opened up to me to share the other side of her story (freelance prostitution), I felt an intense sense of outrage and injustice inside of me, initially directed at the irresponsible attitude of her unsupportive father. The case of I** is sadly far from being isolated in Jakarta and many such wonderful human beings are having to « do what they need to do » to survive. They are so easy to fall in love with: despite the circumstances they are in, they are so genuine, naturally caring and generous. A situation like this always feels awkward of couse: in particular because in the West, an angel like I** would find herself a boyfiriend (to become husband) with a good income in no time at all. Here in Jakarta, she has to meet men to make ends meet, which certainly takes care of her short-term money needs but not of her long-term situation. Once I** becomes a hairdresser, I would not be surprised if she has to continue to be a freelance prostitute to complement her modest income – sadly.I heard the sad news that Kasuci, also known as Santi, ex working girl in Malaysia, Batam and BATS, died of AIDS two months ago. She was in the business of providing pleasure to men like us, unfortunately she died of being too generous and of some selfish guys not wearing a condom..

Mighty Spearsman
06-18-07, 15:29
You had covered sex with her recently, but how was it back in 2005? :D
She's shown me numerous photos of the little one and, sad to say, the baby doesn't look like me at all, although he does have your eyes :)

For better or worse, with the exception of my significant other, I haven't had uncovered sex with anyone since December 1986 (and that was with a big-boobed young lovely named Lin, who is still alive and healthy)

Asian MP Lover
06-18-07, 15:40
Some time ago I found myself at the airport with time to kill.

I remembered reading in various forums about the transit hotel being a front for short time activities, and decided to try it out. The deluxe room is USD 50 for up to 6 hrs (?). The guy at the front desk mentioned the in-room massage service which I took as a positive sign. Went to the room, freshened up and ordered a one hour session for 175 000 Rp.

After a good 20 min a got a knock at the door. Expected a young hottie, but got a ~35 y o well past her expiration date. She gave me the worst body massage ever, which I at first took as a sign that she wasn't there cos of her traditional massage skills.

But the session when on and did not improve. She tried some lame ball and cock touching but seemed very inexperienced. In the end I declined her proposal for special massage and just sent her on her way.

So I took one for the team, just so you don't have to.

If anyone has any good experiences from the transit hotel, pls share. It would be a good place to get prepared before flying out, providing they had quality service providers.

Mighty Spearsman
06-18-07, 15:46
anyone can tell me which massage parlour can find local chinese girl (not prc chinese) in jakarta, thanks a lot !!
easier said than done, there aren't that many working girls who are local chinese, although there are some, primarily in the higher-end mps in kota.

the reasons why most of the chinese girls working here in jakarta are from mainland china are (1) there's a mystique about them, especially their pale skin and (2) they are easy for the mp owners to control, as the owner will confirep001e their passports. and (3) if the mp ever gets busted, the girls are deported instead of sent to jail, and the owner can import a fresh crop a week later!

the quickest answer to your question is to go to kartika and ask for sonia, who is definitely chinese, and local (from semarang, i think). she's not the youngest girl working there, she's in her late 20s, but she's fairly cute, has short bright red hair and will provide good service. like many chinese girls, she has those great pencil-eraser-tip nipples, and i've always enjoyed my sessions with her, going back to february 2005.

she seems to prefer working in a two-girl session with another kartika girl (let her pick the other girl!) although she's fun to be with alone as well. note: she's currently not on speaking terms with the famous cynthia, so don't expect that particular two-some.

plus, she speaks excellent english, one of the very few girls at kartika who knows more than two or three words of english.

Necro24
06-18-07, 23:28
easier said than done, there aren't that many working girls who are local chinese, although there are some, primarily in the higher-end mps in kota.

the reasons why most of the chinese girls working here in jakarta are from mainland china are (1) there's a mystique about them, especially their pale skin and (2) they are easy for the mp owners to control, as the owner will confirep001e their passports. and (3) if the mp ever gets busted, the girls are deported instead of sent to jail, and the owner can import a fresh crop a week later!

the quickest answer to your question is to go to kartika and ask for sonia, who is definitely chinese, and local (from semarang, i think). she's not the youngest girl working there, she's in her late 20s, but she's fairly cute, has short bright red hair and will provide good service. like many chinese girls, she has those great pencil-eraser-tip nipples, and i've always enjoyed my sessions with her, going back to february 2005.

she seems to prefer working in a two-girl session with another kartika girl (let her pick the other girl!) although she's fun to be with alone as well. note: she's currently not on speaking terms with the famous cynthia, so don't expect that particular two-some.

plus, she speaks excellent english, one of the very few girls at kartika who knows more than two or three words of english.good to see that you are finally being helpful in the jakarta thread md ii.

Seqoya
06-19-07, 09:45
Mandiri,

Just a question this lady that you are talking about sounds like a girl I know from Jakarta. Was she in France last winter? The story sounds so familiar with the story the girl I know told me.

If that is her then it is really unbelievable that we know the same person of all these people in jakarta.

But this girl's name is starting with an E and not an I

Curious to hear more from you

Thanks man

Seqoya
06-19-07, 10:52
I am just back from a business trip to jakarta and as usual stayed at the MULIA. I used to live in jakarta for a few years so I speak the language very well which helps in talking to the ladies. They like it when a white guy talks indonesian.

I am always more busy with the girls than with my work. I have a hard time getting my programme done. As I have so many girls to see. Through the years I know many girls there and some are always good to 'see' but we also like to try some new meat. Anywayzzz I went to CJ's most of the evenings and scored some really nice girls. One night I brought 2 girls home. This one girl is a model (she has pics in many sexy pics magazines) I knew her already for a few years. And lost track of her. I saw her kissing with a girl that looks almost the same as she. The other girl was a model too. I know that Nadya likes girls too so I when I approached her she was very happy to see me. Both were already quite drunk so I was standing with them and both girls started rubbing against me. These girls both look amazing. Many of the guys in the club were looking at me like: wow you are doing a good job. Anyway I was getting quite hot as the girls kept kissing eachother in front of me. So I suggested to go up to my room.

We did and coming up both the girls undressed and went for a shower. In the shower they started to kiss again and feeling eachother. Damnzzzz I was getting so horny. I went in bath to clean up so I am ready to jump in bed together with the girls no time to waste.

So when we went to the bed. The girls both started to suck my dick. That was already hard as a rock. Then I started to lick and. Man we had a night just like a porn movie. We didn't sleep at all. These girls kept on and on also with eachother. This was one of the best nights I ever had in jakarta.

The next day I was so tired that I hardly could work but a night without going out in jakarta is not possible. I have been in so many countries but Indonesia is a dream for man. The company I worked for had many white guys working but all these guys were divorced within a year as they could not resist the indonesian girls.

I was luckily still single at that time. But I cannot bring my girl to jakarta as I have to many girls that I know there. This would be way too dangerous for me. Hahahahahahahaha

Also I agree with an earlier writer that www.friendster.com is a good way to find nice girls in jakarta.

Good luck guys!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Mandiri
06-20-07, 05:52
Mandiri,

Just a question this lady that you are talking about sounds like a girl I know from Jakarta. Was she in France last winter? The story sounds so familiar with the story the girl I know told me.

If that is her then it is really unbelievable that we know the same person of all these people in jakarta.

But this girl's name is starting with an E and not an I

Curious to hear more from you

Thanks manHi,

Unfortunately since I do not know you and I want to ensure I**'s integrity and potentially shield her from the wrath of the father of her child if he were to discover what she does for a living,I am unable to answer your requests. Apologies for that.

To answer the second part of your comments, yes indeed it is interesting that we (may) know the same girl, however since many of these girls form the core of BATS/CJ's etc that many of us ISG forum members patronize, it is not too surprizing at the same time.

Mandiri
06-20-07, 06:02
After the many posts on the subject by Mr Bulai69, well I can proudly say that I did spot them on Monday ! I am talking about the Indo girls waiting for prospects at the airport. I arrived Monday at the airport about 7.30pm and there were about 3 of them, nicely dressed up and make up obviously anxiously looking for someone, they looked quite nice. They were certainly easy to spot. I was in a rush to head to the city so I did not attempt anything.

Joe Marieg
06-20-07, 16:28
Some time ago I found myself at the airport with time to kill.

I remembered reading in various forums about the transit hotel being a front for short time activities, and decided to try it out. The deluxe room is USD 50 for up to 6 hrs (?). The guy at the front desk mentioned the in-room massage service which I took as a positive sign. Went to the room, freshened up and ordered a one hour session for 175 000 Rp.

After a good 20 min a got a knock at the door. Expected a young hottie, but got a ~35 y o well past her expiration date. She gave me the worst body massage ever, which I at first took as a sign that she wasn't there cos of her traditional massage skills.

But the session when on and did not improve. She tried some lame ball and cock touching but seemed very inexperienced. In the end I declined her proposal for special massage and just sent her on her way.

So I took one for the team, just so you don't have to.

If anyone has any good experiences from the transit hotel, pls share. It would be a good place to get prepared before flying out, providing they had quality service providers.I was there too last week. I had an open schedule before flying out and decided to head out to the airport early and try it out, as I have read good things. It was my first time. Took the same package room and 1 hour service, the lady that arrive was in her mid 30s. The massage was not that great but ok. I would rate the lady at 4 out of 10.

I feel that it is hard to get a girl from massage service that is to my liking every time, it is like a batting average. Would I go back, maybe not for a while. I think there are lots of other choices in Jakarta.

Smoothy
06-20-07, 22:15
If that is her then it is really unbelievable that we know the same person of all these people in jakarta.

Actually the girls on the "bule circuit" are not that many. The same girls go to Bats, Cj's and 30 every night (the bule circuit) for years. It doesnt take long to know most of them. It's more likely than you think that many of us may know this girl if she's a regular at Bats. There was a period of time about 5 years ago where I could go to any bar on the bule circuit and I would have already slept with every decent looking girl in every one of those bars. I had to finally exit the bule circuit and go to north jakarta to find new girls.

Menteng
06-20-07, 23:15
She's shown me numerous photos of the little one and, sad to say, the baby doesn't look like me at all, although he does have your eyes :)

For better or worse, with the exception of my significant other, I haven't had uncovered sex with anyone since December 1986 (and that was with a big-boobed young lovely named Lin, who is still alive and healthy)

Oops, I feel relieved! More Indonesians have eyes like mine, so it´s easy to have it denied that I´m the father.


AIRPORT TRANSIT HOTEL:

Guys, I think you should do what the great Bulai69 has done. Bring or call a girl you know with special skills, to kill those last hours in Jakarta.

Cervello
06-21-07, 12:41
I had to finally exit the bule circuit and go to north jakarta to find new girls.Looking forward your reports :)

Been to Alexis?

Seqoya
06-21-07, 15:43
Mandiri,

I think we talk about the same girl. I know her as E. Anyway, I am not the father I am from another part of the world. And I think the father definetely will know that she was a working girl. I have no doubts to believe that the first dates she had with him were paying dates. After she may fell in love with him and maybe other way around. But it is still a very sad story for her. That guy is really a pain in the ass. And she deserves so much better than that. She is really a very nice and sweet girl!

When I go to jakarta I Will defintely meet up with her.

She is one of the few that I keep seeing after I had them.

But you are right and also the others that a lot of the girls we had. We maybe have shared; ))

Anyway keep up the good work!

Take care

XXL
06-21-07, 16:51
Actually the girls on the "bule circuit" are not that many.True. Girls on the bule circuit stay there until they've married a bule, followed a bule to another part of Indonesia/Asia or got themselves pregnant and gone back to kampung to become a kampung girl again. Kota girls stay in kota for the duration their kota shelf life which is dertermined by their managers and seldom exceeds 5 years, I would say. Once kicked out of kota some may start a career on the bule circuit.

Mighty Spearsman
06-22-07, 04:16
Stopped by Maribaya Spa (Hotel Melawai 6th floor) in Blok M earlier this week. Two of my favorites, Evie and Citra, no longer work there, and a third favorite, Sandra, was busy being chatted up by a white guy (a fellow ISG-er?).

Tried out a new girl, Ayu, who’s only 20 years old, has only worked there for one month. Very short, very thin (43 kgs), nice shoulder-length straight brown hair, face nothing special, but a nice smile, and a dynamite body from the neck down – she has the type of model-thin body that Bulai69 or Bali Semut would go crazy over. Very small but firm breasts. Has one child who's just around a year old.

Turned out to be a great choice. Once in bed she showed a lot of energy and enthusiasm to provide good service, not yet burnt-out or “professional” in the way that some of these girls tend to be after a few years working at an MP. She very much enjoyed sitting on my face for DATY, claiming to have come at least once, then she moved down for a cowgirl FS session with condom. Very tight, no surprise there. Ended the hour with some nice cuddling and an abbreviated second round (got another erection, used a second condom, but no second shot). 350,000 rupiah plus a very much appreciated 50,000 rupiah tip.

Highly recommended if you like tiny girls and don’t mind the just-average face.
mind

Dr. Beat
06-23-07, 12:27
Dear Gents!

Desperately trying to search if Azerty left a telephone number for the so called Mr. Don for massage service in hotel......so far no luck. I am just here for an overnight trip and am destitute without this contact! Can anyone of the veteran members of this forum help me out?? Any suggestions?

Many thanks....

Frankie555
06-23-07, 12:56
Dear Gents!

Desperately trying to search if Azerty left a telephone number for the so called Mr. Don for massage service in hotel......so far no luck. I am just here for an overnight trip and am destitute without this contact! Can anyone of the veteran members of this forum help me out?? Any suggestions?

Many thanks....Have left Dons No in Yr Private Messages as believe posting publicly will only result in deletion of message.

Samchad
06-23-07, 15:32
Sorry, I'm new to the mall pick up scene. I will be in Jakarta soon. I'll be around Pasaraya mall most of the time. Has anyon had success in picking up ladies at Pasaraya? If so is there a certain part of the mall to go to, or things to notice? When I get there, I'll be sure to give a report here. Thanks.

Chad

Adam C Day
06-23-07, 16:55
Dear Gents!

Desperately trying to search if Azerty left a telephone number for the so called Mr. Don for massage service in hotel......so far no luck. I am just here for an overnight trip and am destitute without this contact! Can anyone of the veteran members of this forum help me out?? Any suggestions?

Many thanks....I've been able to use Mr. Don's services and found the massage satisfying. I still have his number on my phone book so hope this helps. +62 813 8526 1701.
Cheers

El Culion
06-24-07, 12:40
Sorry, I'm new to the mall pick up scene. I will be in Jakarta soon. I'll be around Pasaraya mall most of the time. Has anyon had success in picking up ladies at Pasaraya? If so is there a certain part of the mall to go to, or things to notice? When I get there, I'll be sure to give a report here. Thanks.
Chad

There are definitely some girls who are on the hunt in Pasaraya. Several were pointed out to me by one of my Indo girlfriends. They seem to roam around the area at the Coffee Shop near one of the entrances (Starbucks?), and the Food Court. If they fancy you they’ll seek eye contact and smile invitingly.

However, I don’t know whether they are working girls or girls looking for a steady relationship with a foreigner to improve their lives. She just commented that they were 'girls looking for Bule.'

If you want to score a working girl go to Atrium Mall in Senen. Lots of opportunities there. Mind you, most of these girls don't speak English.

Tiny 12
06-24-07, 20:01
Samchad, like El Culion I've run across pros in and around the Food Court at Pasaraya. Also a few in an internet cafe where some working girls run their traps prior to hitting the bars and karaokes in Blok M. I could tell because they were alone or in groups of two, sometimes dressed a little on the slutty side, and would smile back when you smile at them. In that area though, I much prefer Hotel Melawai massage during the daytime and the bars on Jalan Falatehan late at night. But then I've only got about a 200 word vocabulary in Bahasa Indonesia, and much prefer shooting fish in a barrel to sport fishing.

Cooze Hound
06-24-07, 22:33
Sorry, I'm new to the mall pick up scene. I will be in Jakarta soon. I'll be around Pasaraya mall most of the time. Has anyon had success in picking up ladies at Pasaraya? If so is there a certain part of the mall to go to, or things to notice? When I get there, I'll be sure to give a report here. Thanks.

ChadWell if you are in the area you can try the Blok M Mall beside Pasaraya, it is under the Bus Terminal, also there is Melawai Plaza just behind Pasaraya and also close by the Blok M Plaza.

All these are possibilities. As a contributor pointed out the internet cafe below the Pasaraya food court ( beside Ace Hardware ) can be fruitful.

Samchad
06-25-07, 14:29
Thanks for the pointers on Pasaraya mall. I'll check out the internet cafe. It sounds like the easiest spot to spot a pickup. I'll make a report when I get a chance to try it out.

Seqoya
06-25-07, 14:44
If you go to Pasaraya or other malls you can definitely pick up girls. There are working girls but also normal students that like orang bule. You can also get these girls they will like to have a relationship with you. So they want to go out shopping diner that kind of things. I have picked up many girls like this in Jakarta and you can fuck them also quite easy but they will try to be your real girlfriend in order to come to europe with you. If you play these girls you can easily keep them satisfied without bringing them home. Just be friendly with them and keep in touch once in a while by msn yahoo or sms. I have played many girls like this. Sometimes I met 3 on a day. I was more busy with playing the girls and keeping everything running smoothly then with my business meetings.

Then another thing. I was always wondering why a lot of bule guys like the kampung girls so much the real kampung girls. With the babu faces. I still can't get it. You can get almost every girl there without any problem if you pay them so why pick out these ugly ones and pay for them too. I sometimes see them walking together in mulia or in the mall and think why why why? My indonesian friends always ask me too. Why are all these bule guys always picking out the ugly ones. That was a question I could not answer too. It is certainly not my taste but maybe some of our colleagues can answer this question.

Anyway I have travelled a lot and have been with many girls in many countries. Indonesia is still for me the best and my absolute favourite.

Although the FKK clubs in Germany are really great too.

Smoothy
06-26-07, 00:31
I was always wondering why a lot of bule guys like the kampung girls so much the real kampung girls. With the babu faces. I still can't get it.

I'm not sure what a babu face is. But I do know that the local indonesians will find girls attractive only because they are tall or have white skin that I think are mediocre. While they will think girls are not attractive with dark skin that I think are fantastically hot looking. I find the indonesian "actresses" to be fairly plain for the most part. But the indos go gaga over them.

I was recently in cj's and an indian guy was with me. He didn't like any of the girls in there even though there were alot of nice ones. Then in walks this tall white skinned girl who was somewhat chubby and had a big nose. That was the one he was attracted to. I thought he was nuts thinking she was nicer than the other girls, but I noticed all the arabic and indian guys where throwing themselves at this girl. I wouldn't have thrown her out of bed, but there were at least 20 better looking girls than her in that bar that night.

One man's garbage is another man's treasure.

Crypton
06-26-07, 01:17
Sorry, I'm new to the mall pick up scene. I will be in Jakarta soon. I'll be around Pasaraya mall most of the time. Has anyon had success in picking up ladies at Pasaraya? If so is there a certain part of the mall to go to, or things to notice? When I get there, I'll be sure to give a report here. Thanks.

Chad

To identify mall girls, make sustained eye contact and smile. Regularly girls may make some eye contact but when it gets uncomfortable they turn away. If you see someone making a lot of eye contact just talk to them. Be aware that many of these girls speak no English.

Cheers

Expatriate Guy
06-26-07, 01:37
Went to the Maribaya Bar on the 6th floor of Hotel Melawi yesterday evening around 6.30 pm. The selection was quite good with 15-20 girls, with some 7-8s. Picked a SYT and the others tried to get me to do a threesome or even a foursome at IDR350K per girl. Tempting offer.

Found the room was quite dingy by my standards. Started with a shower and decided to skip the massage (dingy room turned me off). She gave the usual cat bath with BBBJ/AR, followed by cowgirl FS and finished with missionery. Overall experience 5-6 only. She became a bit wild and started biting me as I was pounding her.

Caution of warning about taking non-Silverbird/Bluebird taxis...the stupid taxi couldn't find my 5-star hotel and took me for a IDR60K ride. Also, only Silverbird/Bluebird taxis issue receipts, so I couldn't get one for an expense claim.

Master Diver II
06-27-07, 04:32
Oooh yeaaa ... touche!

The great MDII finally re-surfaces, eh? Don't forget, our penile prints are supposed to be the same, if you believe what a famous FL in Malaysia said. ;)

Yes, let's do TT -- how about Monday 25th at Coffee Club in Plaza Senayan, say, 6.30pm, okay? Cannot? Why, why why? :p

Bastard, bastard, bastard!! You know why but it looks like it wont be long now:D.


Good to see that you are finally being helpful in the Jakarta thread MD II.

Hmmm.... Mighty Spearsman would be MS. Perhaps you need to go through the alphabet again with your nursery teacher - I think you've got the wrong identity Necro! When are you going to make yourself useful before you make this kind of comment about Seniors who have posted numerous informative posts including many photo posts? You have maybe 3 posts with some useful information!

MD II

Bulai69
06-27-07, 18:29
Asian MP Lover - I am sorry you had a bad experience at the Transit Hotel. I've written reports on that following extremely favourable experiences there. But I would suggest that it is very imporant to stress what kind of girl you want - you need to be very firm about that with the guy on reception and if such a girl doesn't arrive, respectfully ask for another one.

KL Guy
06-27-07, 19:34
Dear Necro24, I believe your getting MDII mixed up with the original poster "Originally Posted by Mighty Spearsman"

KL Guy ;)


Good to see that you are finally being helpful in the Jakarta thread MD II.

Samchad
06-28-07, 04:34
Is getting rimmed by a girl common in Jakarta? How do you ask for it? Is there a Bahasa Indo term to use? Thanks in advance for your advice?

Dom Perignon
06-28-07, 08:27
Is getting rimmed by a girl common in Jakarta? How do you ask for it? Is there a Bahasa Indo term to use? Thanks in advance for your advice?Try with this: "saya mau main dengen pantat kamu"

Can be translated with: I would like to play with your ass

This is what I use, .and be sure she will get the point and you will make her laugh also.

Ildom

Ozirob
06-28-07, 08:34
Not a worthwhile report and no hard info because i didn't partake but feel its worth saying that i found Cj's a great bar, with a lot of excellent talent on display and available! I was staying at Aryaduta but next time in Jakarta will be at Mulia.

Got there reasonably early 10 ish, it was ladies night, and things steadily hotted up from there. I really like the way everything happens a bit different to, say, OT Singapore. Everyone knows why they are there, but no-one making moves until around 11:30 midnight. I found myself having dialogue with a group of 5 young sweeties, any one of whom i would happily take away! once it became clear i was not going to take anyone, they really put the pressure on - some close holds and tongue kissing :-)

Enjoyed and will be back! Would reccomend Cj's as an easy spot

Ozirob

Goferring
06-28-07, 12:03
Nothing unusual in having coitus interuptus because of a SMS/Hp call but to combine Cowgirl with Reply to All on her Blackberry was a new one.

How things have changed.

Time to head downmarket again.

Smoothy
06-28-07, 12:23
i didn't partake but feel its worth saying that i found Cj's a great bar, with a lot of excellent talent on display and available!

The 3 popular 5 star hotel bars are mentioned many times in this forum. BATS in the Shangri La, CJ's in the Mulia, and Tiga Puluh in Le Meridien. Those 3 have been the most popular 5 star hotel bars for at least 10 years now. Burgundy at the Hyatt is more upscale, but also a pickup spot. Mistere at the Ritz Carlton is a similar setup to CJ's, but it doesn't get as big of crowds and is more upscale. Even your Aryaduta Tavern bar has some action, but not as much as those other spots. Park Lane hotel has Stix which has a similar amount of action to Aryaduta. Crowne Plaza Hotel has Retro disco which has more techno music while all the others have pop with the exception of Stix which has Salsa. Retro is a later night place. Those are the main popular pickup places in 5 star hotels for expats. But there are so many other places in town not in 5 star hotels. References to all of them have already been posted in this forum as far as I know.

I will say that CJ's is greatly improved since they remodelled. It's much easier to survey the bar than it used to be. Glad you enjoyed CJ's, but don't limit yourself to that one place. There are so many good places to try throughout the city.

Just up the road from CJ's in Taman Ria is Embassy disco (mainly a techno, ecstacy place). Just down the street from CJ's in the other direction is Red Square and X2. Those are 2 upscale bars where the upper class girls like to hang out.

Blok M is about a 5 to 10 minute drive from CJ's as well and we all know the pleasures that can be found there...

In the past, the hot late nightspot and most infamous bar in all of southeast asia was Tanamur. (it's a damn shame that place isn't around anymore) But now that Tanamur is gone, the infamous late night place in Jakarta is Stadium in north Jakarta. I know people in Singapore who fly to Jakarta just to go to Stadium for the weekend, then fly back to Singapore to go back to work. It's open 24 hours and has an in house *****house as well as the disco. It's a techno/ecstacy place, the waiters will actually offer to sell you ecstacy when they take your drink order. It's not a place you'd want to go by yourself if you are new in town, but it can be fun if you go with someone who has been before. I don't ever do ecstacy, but I still enjoy myself there.

I had some friends who stayed at the Mulia recently for 3 weeks. Due to typical warnings from their company about dangers in Jakarta, they were scared to go anywhere other than 5 star hotels. Even though I told them those dangers were greatly exaggerated and offered to take them to other areas of town, they refused. So we ended up meeting at the Mulia or BATS when we met. They told me they were paying the girls 1 million rupiah a night. I informed them that was too much and that they should try to negotiate them down to 500-600k for the night, but they claimed none of the girls would go for less than 1 million. I even offered to negotiate for them, but they said they didn't want that because they didn't want to look cheap in front of the girls. I guess if you're on a nice expense account, $100 usd doesn't seem like so much. The sad thing was I saw some of the girls they were taking and those girls weren't even worth 400k for the night in my opinion. A couple of them I wouldn't have taken for free.

Menteng
06-28-07, 22:52
Is getting rimmed by a girl common in Jakarta? How do you ask for it? Is there a Bahasa Indo term to use? Thanks in advance for your advice?

The common expression in Jakarta is "mandi kucing" (mandee koocheeng).
To make sure she will do AR, you can ad "sampai lubang pantat" (sampay loobang pantat" where the letter "a" sounds like the "u" in "much".

Tiny 12
06-29-07, 02:42
I had some friends who stayed at the Mulia recently for 3 weeks. Due to typical warnings from their company about dangers in Jakarta, they were scared to go anywhere other than 5 star hotels....The sad thing was I saw some of the girls they were taking and those girls weren't even worth 400k for the night in my opinion. A couple of them I wouldn't have taken for free.

That's ironic, after the bomb in the Marriott Hotel a few years ago --it seems like they should be staying away from the 5 star hotels, considering they're paranoid. I can tell where they're coming from, about the women, having spent a couple of weeks in the Mulia myself. If your Indonesian language skills are minimal, like mine, the most approachable women in C.J.'s are ugly sharks that will try to stick it to you, price-wise. I had a lot better luck, getting better service, cheaper prices, and hotter women by going to Blok M. It sounds like things have improved there though, based on your and Ozirob's reports.

Smoothy
06-29-07, 06:54
To make sure she will do AR, you can ad "sampai lubang pantat" (sampay loobang pantat" where the letter "a" sounds like the "u" in "much".

That might not "make sure" she will do it, but it will let her know what you want. It basically translates to "Until the anus".

Unfortunately i was about to have lunch. I think I'll skip it now.

Make sure you don't engage in any DFK after the AR. LOL!

Panya
06-29-07, 10:53
Managed 2 rounds at different KTVs last week.

The first was a place called Melody, located in Blok M Plaza (opp. Grand Mahakam hotel). KTV rooms are small, but notorious for having about 45 girls literally screaming for your attention when you walk through the door.

I had previously eyed this girl sitting with one of my clients the last time, and she really had a body to die for. Standing at 5ft. 6in., larger than B-cups (less than C, as I found out later), long sturdy legs, and abs that hinted of the vagina sqqqquuuueeezzze ...

As the night progressed, she informed that it's 15 hours at Rp 35,000 per hour for the establishment, and she wanted Rp 1 million for herself. Yes ... total of Rp 1.5 million -- I said NO! Actually, it was negotiated down to Rp 500,000 for her, and I very, very nearly said 'Yes' -- not enough to drink, so was in control of my big brain. :D

So, I went back alone.

The next night decided to hit Cosmos -- it's really the best in terms of getting laid with KTV girls who know what it's all about. As I was feeling tired and really, really drunk -- went out with Korean clients this time -- decided to opt for the attached washroom bang. I must have pumped her forever, and could not cum ... well, I really overdid the liquor, and only had myself to blame.

Anyway, since she is quite a looker (and a groaner to boot), I will be following up with her outside of the KTV on my next trip. What was it that Brother Tamurlane said about "long term, relaxed relationships" ?? ;)

Best,
Panya

Panya
06-29-07, 10:58
The common expression in Jakarta is "mandi kucing" (mandee koocheeng).
To make sure she will do AR, you can ad "sampai lubang pantat" (sampay loobang pantat" where the letter "a" sounds like the "u" in "much".

Hehehe ... you guys just make me crack up, especially Menteng with the "bule" guide on how to enunciate.

So, if someone's being a real asshole, would calling him "lubang pantat" be too polite, or is there a more appropriate street lingo for this?

Seqoya
06-29-07, 10:59
Panya, never take a girl home directly from KTV. You will pay for the KTV service too.

These girls will love to see you outside the KTV so just ask their phone nr and ask what time they are ready. This is my strategy and it worked always. When they are ready they go directly to your hotel or you can decide to do it another day and you still have the nr.

Also prices are better to negotiate then.

Good luck

El Culion
06-29-07, 11:58
So, if someone's being a real asshole, would calling him "lubang pantat" be too polite, or is there a more appropriate street lingo for this?

Mandipantat

Joel Goodsen
06-29-07, 12:54
Mandipantat
haha.. yes, that's actually quite funny. I guess that would be something to ask for before the anilingus, it would make things slightly more hygienic. The impolite version for Panya would be brengsek or bejad.. but better stick to the lubang pantat, you make more friends, as it definitely will raise some smiles.

Seqoya
06-29-07, 13:01
I always call it Jilat bintang.

1Ball
06-29-07, 15:52
So, if someone's being a real asshole, would calling him "lubang pantat" be too polite, or is there a more appropriate street lingo for this?
you might also try
KURANGAJAR SIALAN

But if I wanted some AR, I might ask.
TOLONG MAKAN PANTAT

or do it to her first, then say
SEKARANG KAMU

or sit on her face, LOL

Adam C Day
06-29-07, 17:49
or sit on her face, LOLBwahahahaha ROFLOL :D

Samchad
06-30-07, 02:02
Thanks guys for the pointer. Maybe this bule will write it down on a paper and show it to the Blok M girls instead of trying to pronounce it. Do many girls in Blok M rim, or is it going to be tough to find?

Mandiri
06-30-07, 05:48
I have to say I am impressed with Mr Bulai69's claimed friendster track-record of about 100% hit ratio.

I've hit the dating sites quite heavily lately and the results, while encouraging, are certainly nowhere near what Mr Bulai has achieved. From the immediate-bang chick to the very serious accountant who may need a few weeks' proper courtship before getting porked, I've met a bit a everything (about 10 chicks in total). The very good thing about it is that you can build a list of prospects whose varying bang cycles wil lead you to score them one after the other at various timeframes, thereby keeping you with lots of options open at any given time. All in all, strongly recommended, however the bang on the spot is, from my experience, not a sure thing. A bit of work, but worth it and so much more satisfying once you've put your flag on since you've had to work (only a little, this is JKT after all!) for it.

Enjoy!

Bulai69
06-30-07, 16:40
Mandiri - just to be clear: I mean't almost 100% send a reply. I didn't mean I fucked 100% of them!! Many of the replies were politely pointing out that they already had a boyfriend and just used the site for exchanging stories with their friends. However, a lot of girls use it as a way of "showing off" by posting photo's of themselves in (perceived) glamorous locations or photo's of boyfriends with impressive cars etc etc. It's a way of up-ing their status. Jakarta girls are BIG on status and materialism. This is a worthwhile angle to exploit when "hunting" on friendster - although of course they will expect you to "deliver" if you catch one that way.

Bulai69
06-30-07, 16:51
You ask "Why are all these bule guys always picking out the ugly ones." I have often wondered that, but it has been explained to me many times, by my various "girlfriends", it is because girls who are "jelek" will be considerably less likely to be get screwed by the likes of those who contribute to this forum when their benefactor bule is not around. It's a bit like owning a crappy old car on the grounds that it's less likely to get stolen or vandalised I suppose. Each to his own....

Bulai69
06-30-07, 16:57
Very amusing contributions on how to ask for AR! Technically the most accurate from Menteng of course but I find it somewhat bizarre even having this discussion "in advance". Actually I think the only word you need to know is "sini" (here) if she doesn't go there without explicit direction!

Acerboy
06-30-07, 17:01
Bastard, bastard, bastard!! You know why but it looks like it wont be long now:D.Bastard I'll be there end of July.:D Will you been there soon MS...oops MD?Plan to go shopping to Blok M with gf. Staying at the JW. Hope to pick up girls who be willing to do 3some with me and gf.

Panya - [Non-English text deleted by Admin] should do it too. LOL

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Menteng
06-30-07, 23:48
Hehehe ... you guys just make me crack up, especially Menteng with the "bule" guide on how to enunciate.

So, if someone's being a real asshole, would calling him "lubang pantat" be too polite, or is there a more appropriate street lingo for this?

Try "bangsat", where the letters "a" are pronounced like the "u" in "much".
But I would advice to run away as fast as you can after saying it :)

Menteng
06-30-07, 23:56
Thanks guys for the pointer. Maybe this bule will write it down on a paper and show it to the Blok M girls instead of trying to pronounce it. Do many girls in Blok M rim, or is it going to be tough to find?

There´s a MILF, who frequents D´s Place in blok M with the name of RIMA (what´s in a name :D). Very good rimming!

TWIMC: I think brother Panya was not asking for more info about the Indonesian words for AR, but what word to use when you´re dealing with an asshole (so to speak).

Juddo
07-01-07, 10:18
Other than Block M, where else is happening on a Sunday night?

MarkIII
07-01-07, 11:17
To all of you: D´s place will close in 2 months. So enjoy the place, like there´s no tomorrow.

One of my favorite places. I am sorry to hear it’s closing.
Are you sure about it ?? Lets hope something similar will return in it’s place.

Mark

Bulai69
07-01-07, 12:00
CJ's at Mulia is probably the best place on Sunday night; maybe 30% of girls in there are semi-pro hookers and many of the rest "amateurs", i.e. girls with jobs looking to supplement their income.

Nero X
07-01-07, 13:00
At the Novotel right now, wifi on my phone, tired, I will go check out CJ's after a little nappy. Thx for the suggestion as I was also thinking about what to do.