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Master Diver II
07-19-13, 01:53
Bro,
You are great. Even I am younger than you, I have never ever achieved what you have mentioned above. A long list!It's easier for a bule on dating sites Smallbird (I hope that that name is not overly descriptive of yourself BTW). However I do agree with Wild Wind and far prefer the non-P4P. I'm older than you but younger than him and it really isn't all that difficult (I am 49 and not a bule either). The girls appreciate you being honest and straightforward. I'm absolutely sure that it is cheaper to do non-P4P and you have them lined up before you arrive. If you're lucky and they drop by where you live (I've had a few come to KL and enjoyed passing an afternoon in their hotel room) it adds to the benefits:p.
Falling in love is the biggest mistake you can possibly make. If you fall in love with an Indonesian girl (any girl really) you are like putty in her hands and she will use and abuse you any way she sees fit. Actually many girls will leave you right away if they sense you are needy or head over heels in love with them because it turns them off big time.I'm not quite sure I agree with you mate. It's not the falling in love that's the problem, but the keeping control of yourself. I've fallen in love a few times and it's funny still being friends even after they've gone and gotten married. You just need to be realistic. I do agree with you about not being needy - but that's a whole other kettle of fish. Yes you do need to stay in control (and no, it's not easy) but it's amazing the GFE you get when they feel some reciprocation.
I guess you consider your time not to be worth anything. It takes time to scour the internet dating sites and send message after message to a girl to get her to meet you. The reason I don't prefer the dating sites is that it is time consuming. I prefer just to go to the bar or massage place and pick out a girl. You always pay in some way, whether it's cash, your time, or emotionally.I don't entirely agree with you. Yes, you do need some time, but if you discipline yourself to 15 minutes a day for scouring and messaging, you can accomplish a whole lot. Short of that time cost (surely not the greatest expenditure as going to a club / bar will take time in itself, as well as money) it's possible to get complete freebies or at worst the cost of dinner. Since I'm pretty sure most of us eat meals at some point, it's really only half the dinner cost you're paying for the girl:). I'm certain that it's more pleasant having dinner with attractive company than eating alone as well (can that be considered another fringe benefit?;)).
But sometimes I also met girls who weren't not my cup of tea, and though I'd love to run, I still tried to be polite, invited them to drinks before making up some excuses to leave. Jakarta is sure one of the best places on earth for mongering.That's why my standard meeting place is over a cup of coffee / tea. If I have to bale, then I don't waste too much time or expenditure unnecessarily. You can carry on to a meal or drinks (or the hotel room:D) should you wish to get to know her better. It's amazing how many will be perfectly happy to opt for the hotel room immediately after the coffee.
MD II
I don't entirely agree with you. Yes, you do need some time, but if you discipline yourself to 15 minutes a day for scouring and messaging, you can accomplish a whole lot. Short of that time cost (surely not the greatest expenditure as going to a club / bar will take time in itself, as well as money) it's possible to get complete freebies or at worst the cost of dinner. Since I'm pretty sure most of us eat meals at some point, it's really only half the dinner cost you're paying for the girl. I'm certain that it's more pleasant having dinner with attractive company than eating alone as well (can that be considered another fringe benefit.).
That's why my standard meeting place is over a cup of coffee / tea. If I have to bale, then I don't waste too much time or expenditure unnecessarily. You can carry on to a meal or drinks (or the hotel room.) should you wish to get to know her better. It's amazing how many will be perfectly happy to opt for the hotel room immediately after the coffee.
MD III agree here. Time could but shouldn't always or necessarily be compared or converted into cost or money. It's also part of the fun, and actually you don't need much time for searching and massaging as well.
To me freebees can't be compared to P4P girls, and I always prefer freebees than P4P. Of course you can choose the P4P girls as well but your options, depend on what you pay, are not unlimited (for example, at the massage plus plus parlours, by standard you can get 1h or 1,5h of fun, with BJ either CBJ or BBJ then FS. While CIM or additional are not always available.). I myself rarely accepted BBJ by WGs since I always care about health issues; and I also didn't often meet a WG who accepted CIM. Meanwhile, with my freebees, since almost all of them were normal, clean girls so health didn't really a matter here and I could always enjoy their BBJs; and always ended with CIM.
I also usually meet them over coffee / tea or, depend on how much I am willing to spend with a particular girl, lunch or diner at a good but not expensive restaurant inside the malls.
The only hindrance with me is that I don't bring girls back to my place to avoid gossips, therefore I need to either bring them to a hotel or other places (in some cases, to the girls' home). But it is not always easy to ask a normal girl to hotel with you in the first date. So you must think first whether she will accept it (in my experiences so far. 8 out of 10 of the girls who I asked agreed).
Dating sites are fish in the barrel. It does not take long, but, it is way easier if you live here. Never more than a second date for most to end up in bed. The older ones (late 20's-mid 30's) are there a lot quicker and most are fantastic in bed. I literally have to keep a separate calendar just for dating. I do tend to keep them too long though. I have one now that is in love and has started to dictate terms. If she was not so damn sexy would have been gone long ago. MD does that mean I am in love? LOL
Taking her on a trip next week and will lay down the law (and some pipe).
Falling in love is the biggest mistake you can possibly make. If you fall in love with an Indonesian girl (any girl really) you are like putty in her hands and she will use and abuse you any way she sees fit. Actually many girls will leave you right away if they sense you are needy or head over heels in love with them because it turns them off big time.
You just got to act like the MAN. That is what girls want. You got to be cool in any situation and you got to be cool with her. Just act like you don't need her and you have scores of other girls waiting for you. I always show my new girls my whatsapp list of pretty girls (about 30 now) and it makes them only more interested in me. Girls really love bad boys and Indonesian girls love them even more. Be confident, be cool and be funny, be an allround nice person to be around with and the girls will come with you almost without any exception, even the ones that are initially not into you, they will change their mind and come with you.
Also when you are with a girl for instance in a cafe or whatever, talk to the other people around you too, don't only focus on her, show her that you can talk and joke with anybody and she will think, wow that guy is fun, I cannot wait to check out his spring bed later.
My god I should not be giving all these advices, believe me most of the regulars on this forum know exactly what I am talking about because they do this every day.
I am not giving away more secrets to you, the rest is for you to find out yourself.
Goodluck SmallbirdBro,
Thank you for your advise. Your advice is precious for me.
It's easier for a bule on dating sites Smallbird (I hope that that name is not overly descriptive of yourself BTW). However I do agree with Wild Wind and far prefer the non-P4P. I'm older than you but younger than him and it really isn't all that difficult (I am 49 and not a bule either). The girls appreciate you being honest and straightforward. I'm absolutely sure that it is cheaper to do non-P4P and you have them lined up before you arrive. If you're lucky and they drop by where you live (I've had a few come to KL and enjoyed passing an afternoon in their hotel room) it adds to the benefits.
MD IIBro, thank you for your precious suggestion. Self control, as you and other expert mention are crucial, not only on hunting, but also on any other area.
Dating sites are fish in the barrel. It does not take long, but, it is way easier if you live here. Never more than a second date for most to end up in bed. The older ones (late 20's-mid 30's) are there a lot quicker and most are fantastic in bed. I literally have to keep a separate calendar just for dating. I do tend to keep them too long though. I have one now that is in love and has started to dictate terms. If she was not so damn sexy would have been gone long ago. MD does that mean I am in love? LOL
Taking her on a trip next week and will lay down the law (and some pipe).I always avoided the ones who state in their profile that they have kids. Because I always think girls with kids have horrible bodies. However the other night I got a message from a really pretty girl who had one kid. I met her, bedded her and she had one of the most beautiful bodies I have ever encountered, slim, sexy and great boobs. She is 25 years old and her body is trim and firm like an 18 year old, and no stretchmarks whatsoever.
Maybe I missed out on a lot of beautiful girls the last couple of years.
no taxis. anywhere.
in jakarta for the first time (see day 1 and day 2 reports #7381 and #7384 if you are interested) , i am learning first hand what happens when it rains on a saturday afternoon.
i am at the mall. there's a long line of optimistic souls stoically waiting for a taxi but of course, none is in sight. i want to get back to the hotel: there are reports to read, emails to reply, calls to make.
i decide to call for my jakarta host's company car to come pick me up, when i hear tinkling feminine laughter behind me. i turn around to look and find myself facing two gorgeous, long haired beauties, gleefully chattering in bahasa. the girls seem pleased with my attention and also halt their chatter to look at me.
their complexion is the palest i have seen so far on any indonesian girl; probably an eclectic indo / japanese / korean mix.
the shorter of the two (late teens?) has a cute oval face, soft chin and pouty, pink lips. she is also the more curvaceous (but not overly so) and is wearing a patterned, blue tank top over her (b cup?) breasts. this is matched off by a pair of casual tie dye denim shorts apparently painted on to her gorgeously coquettish and protuberant ass.
the taller girl (perhaps also 19 or maybe slightly older?) could easily be a dead ringer for a younger, [personal name deleted by admin]. (for those of you who perhaps don't travel as frequently to japan and want to know what nozomi looks like, search in google for "flickr groups /,[personal name deleted by admin] "). the jakarta nozomi is wearing a white, lacy boobtube freely exposing her delicate shoulders and porcelain midriff. the lacy, bra vest coupled with her (fake) j crew animal print, shorts of linen canvas magnificently showcase the round slope of her slim belly descending erotically and sharply from the navel to her tiny, mound of venus.
what a gorgeous two set on a rainy day! i greet them in bahasa.
this promptly brings fresh peels of laughter from both girls and pouty lips sympathetically asks me in english "not speak bahasa indonesia?" (i had intended to wish them "good day" but god knows what i actually said!) i hastily switch to english but quickly learn that their knowledge of english is worse, somewhere between atrocious and abysmal.
in such moments, trust technology to lend a hand! translator app! it's not perfect but hey, it's something!
"no taxis. i will call my driver and ask him to come. your driver is here? no, he is at the office maybe you can ask him in bahasa to come to the mall. your driver says he will come immediately but. traffic. tell him it's way better than waiting indefinitely for a taxi here. giggle. your driver says he is coming soon. hey, when the car gets here, do you want me to give you a ride? you will? yes, no trouble at all. giggle. sure? sure! terima kasi. hey, want to grab something inside while we wait. giggle. oh! ok!"
safely inside from the muggy heat and the heavy downpour, they tell me they are sisters; the older one with the boobtube is lia and the younger one with the pouty lips is diah. but mall pickups using technology have their capricious side: for one, the translator apps are notoriously inconsistent and then there's all that pesky typing although, their double thumbed typing can easily set a world record.
so, staccato style, i slowly learn the following about them: "we are sisters. but wait in facebook your birthdays are only 7 months apart? oh! i see, that means you are cousins, not sisters. so, both your parents, chinese? your mothers are korean? no? only her mother? but not yours? what? yours also? huh?"
at the foodcourt, with much giggling they choose to sit on either side of me, instead of opposite me. maybe this is to help read the translator app screen, but whatever the reason this happy seating arrangment also allows me to have my legs press up against their creamy, smooth thighs. and each time they lean across me to talk in bahasa, there is a trail of floral scented perfume which lingers.
the girls' strongly accented english adds to the hilarity of our puzzled, conversation:
"you like rihanna?"
"yes, some of her songs"
"you like. ' i like nicky damon'?"
"never heard it. how does it go?"
they both sing the chorus in unison "i likey nicky damon. i likey nicky damon"
"oh! diamonds? that actually goes 'shine bright like a diamond"
"yes, yes, that one. you like?"
i also notice a competition of sorts between them. each trying to be more seductive than the other: if one runs her fingers though her hair and twirls it, the other would straighten her posture and thrust her breasts out. this would make the first one to ostentatiously cross her legs and let her feet dangle to rub against my leg. upping the ante the other one would lean so close to talk to me, her lips almost touching my cheek and earlobe.
we are having ice cream, chocolate for them, vanilla for me. the talkative twosome are quiet only when eating their ice cream; but even with mouthfuls of ice cream, every time they catch me looking at them, they giggle shyly covering their mouths with the back of their hands.
i am intoxicated by their sensual body language; but their cheeky playfulness is even more appealing. my mind fills with deviant images of sinful threesomes with these two. oh, the things we could get up to! but in my defence the depravity of my thoughts are not entirely, unprovoked.
for instance, what i am about to describe. i swear. took less than 10 seconds. but even now, i can replay the whole scene frame by frame.
their icecream almost finished, i offer them some of mine. diah accepts immediately and grabs my fist holding the spoonful of icecream with both hands. but instead of directing the spoon to her mouth, she moves her head seductively towards it with her pouty lips open. i watch mesmerised with lia pressed close to me with her finely chiselled chin on my shoulder.
diah's tongue darts out and slowly licks the smooth underside of the spoon before her soft mouth closes over it. the delicate hands tighten around my fist while her mischeivous eyes are locked into mine. ever so slightly, she now moves her pretty head in and out, as if she is sucking. all done fleetingly fast, but long enough to leave an indelible impression. diah then pulls away at a 45 degree angle from the waist, laughing with her hands covering her mouth.
not to be left out, lia shakes me by the shoulder and mock-pleadingly points to her mouth. i scoop up some icecream for her. lia starts off by giving a half moon of a lick to the spoon before sticking out her tongue to receive the icecream. it's a bit messy as some of the white cream smears her lips and dribbles down her chin. there's much laughter from both girls as lia daintily wipes off the smeared cream, with the back of her hand. she then opens and closes her mouth and says "look, all gone!" and smiles prettily. diah guffaws.
as i say all of this took no more than 10 seconds but did any of the shoppers in that crowded foodcourt notice this erotic performance? i doubt it but there's no doubt about my raging hardon!
back at my hotel, they delightedly run around the largish suite, posing for each other and taking photos. they are obsessed with their looks. not once did they walk past a mirror without glancing to look at their own reflection, straighten their hair or adjust their posture.
i am hungry, so i order room service. when the food arrives they both sit on the floor at the lounge coffee table sharing nasi goreng from the same plate. this time, i get the r rated version of 'sucking the spoon schtik' but with the sate skewers as props. it is not however done with full on horniness but with a cheeky playfulness and a lot of gigles.
diah lifts up the skewer and bends own under to lick the whole length of the underside of the meat before proceeding to rub the sides with her pouty lips. lia amazes me by throwing her head back to deep throat almost half the skewer. has a sate ever been taken into such small mouths more erotically or more seductively?
afterwards, they sit on either side of me in the sofa and watch imovies on my ipad, squealing appreciatively. by now, diah sitting to my right has her right leg draped over my outstretched legs, my palm freely running over the silkiness of her thighs. my other hand is wrapped around lia's waist, who helpfully repositions herself to let my hand slide inside the waistband of her shorts.
taken up with those silly imovie horror trailers, diah pleads with me, her pouty lips pouting even more "please! do imovie with lia and me"! i let her beg some more before suggesting that i might consider it if she gives me a kiss. lia lasciviously coos "ayyyy".
without missing a beat, diah throws her arms around me and kisses me. i draw her close to prolong the kiss and hungrily suck on those sexy, pouty lips! after i let go, diah wipes her lips with the back of her wrist and asks. still on point."you will do imovie?"
without answering i turn to lia, who with her hand on my left shoulder gets up and sinuously straddles either side of my knees. i am now staring at that porcelain smoothness of her exposed midriff. with her arms on my shoulders lia draws me to her. my lips and tongue need no further encouragement, as i start to lick and kiss her silky belly; lia sexily slithers down, hugging my face tightly to her torso and letting my mouth trace its contours over the lacy boobtube as she sits down on my lap, cowgirl style. she offers to my eager mouth first her left tit and then the right.
not to be left out, diah climbs on to the sofa on her knees and wraps my right arm around her waist. my hand reaches for her spectacular ass, squeezing each of those magnificent orbs.
still writhing sensously on my lap, lia is visbly turned on by my tonguing her perky tits. she lifts up my face to kiss me passionately. as i rub her tiny mound i feel the heat of her crotch. lia bites my lower lip and then runs her tongue over it. i too bring my tongue into play and lia eagerly opens her mouth to receive it.
outside, rain is falling down in buckets on sinners and saints alike; inside, the two young things wrapped around me are taking me to seventh heaven. at that point, i was blissfully ignorant about the disastrous curve ball fate was about to throw at me!
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How much you guys pay for indonesiancupid subscription? You guys choose 1 month package or?
Is 1 month package sufficient?
Mighty Spearsman
07-20-13, 17:10
I always avoided the ones who state in their profile that they have kids. Because I always think girls with kids have horrible bodies. However the other night I got a message from a really pretty girl who had one kid. I met her, bedded her and she had one of the most beautiful bodies I have ever encountered, slim, sexy and great boobs. She is 25 years old and her body is trim and firm like an 18 year old, and no stretchmarks whatsoever.
Maybe I missed out on a lot of beautiful girls the last couple of years.For what it's worth, during my busy mongering period in Jakarta (August 2004 to June 2009) , the best set of tits I ever found were on Cynthia, who worked at Kartika (up until her death in November 2007) and who had given birth to a son in August 2004. I wrote about her extensively, including a story about my visit to her family 6 months after she had died. Cynthia was medium-build by Indonesian standards (by Western standards she would have been considered slim) but had an unusually large, firm set, also with no stretchmarks. Plus, for most of 2005 (she returned to Kartika around February 2005) I got some free milk as well!
Three of the eight women I was with on my June trip to INDO had kids and there was no impact on their bodies. Each had a great bod, and 2 had pretty big tits and there was no sag problem there either.
Master Diver II
07-20-13, 20:36
How much you guys pay for indonesiancupid subscription? You guys choose 1 month package or? Is 1 month package sufficient?It's enough if you're looking at a one time trip, but if you intend to go a few times, it's more economical to take a longer subscription. I do the 12 months Gold subscription.
I always avoided the ones who state in their profile that they have kids. Maybe I missed out on a lot of beautiful girls the last couple of years.Yes you have mate. One of the best girls I've been with was a widow with a kid. I was always near the edge of falling for her. It took a lot of self control not to.
Dating sites are fish in the barrel. It does not take long, but, it is way easier if you live here. Never more than a second date for most to end up in bed. The older ones (late 20's-mid 30's) are there a lot quicker and most are fantastic in bed. I literally have to keep a separate calendar just for dating. I do tend to keep them too long though. I have one now that is in love and has started to dictate terms. If she was not so damn sexy would have been gone long ago. MD does that mean I am in love? LOLNot necessarily bro, I don't live there and it's not an obstacle; BBM, whatsapp and viber help a lot. No you're not in love mate, it's just brain no. 2 doing your thinking for you. ROFLMAO :D. I've been there before and you just need to be a little bit careful. I have almost fallen a couple of times and the trouble was that it was both the brains thinking. In those cases, they didn't dictate terms, but took the trouble to see what stress level or mood I was in, and then made me feel better. Take care bro and watch the proverbial step.;)
MD II
I am just planning 2 trips so I did Platinum for 1 month, two times. If any of you are on IndoCupid, check out #1633889, she is called Ina and is hungry for see*ck. I passed because my plate is full.
On IC I make it very clear in my profile that I am from US, that I am married and that I am looking for physical intimacy with a beautiful young Indonesian woman. That way there is no question. My pics are good so they attract a lot of attention, so make sure you lead with a good pic. A lot of the women just click Interest based on the pic, so I always make sure they read the profile and get the program. Some (like the devout Islamic women) bail out after that. But if they say they read my profile", I put them in the Yes column. Then its a matter of whether or not I want to do them, not of they want to do me. Pretty amazing role reversal.
The women on IC in their late 20's and 30's are, generally speaking, ready to rock 'and roll. At least with e bule like me. And there are a lot of good looking ones (7-9). They don't require much convincing. I had a couple of very good ones in early 40's as well, but ones any older than that generally aren't very attractive (and remember, I'm in my 60's so I shouldn't be picky, but on IC I can afford to be very picky).
The ones in late teens to mid 20's are mostly reluctant to commit to meet me and do the things I want, so I have stopped working on them. There's also a cultural gap. I did a 20 year old on my first trip and she began the session by lying on my bed chewing gum and focusing attention on her cell phone. I finally had to ask her if she remembered what she said she would do with me, and she said yes, so I just started taking her clothes off. Things improved when we got going and now she is asking me to see her again on this upcoming trip. But I didn't like how it started, and she also had about 3 days crotch stubble from a previous shave job. All the others I met were immaculately groomed. So I am not geoing to do her again.
There are a few obvious pros on IC too (one is named Barbie. Her tag line is "Let's meet for fun". I stay away from those.
As it has been mentioned on here before, although their profiles say they want marriage, long term, etc, I just ignore that and most end up being interested in a high quality one-time with me in a 5 star hotel.
I'm staying 3 nights on this upcoming trip (July 27-30) and have arranged 3 overnights with a 27, a 31 and another 31, all single working women with no kids. I think this may be the sweet spot for me with youthful bodies and energy, and enough maturity to be interesting to spend the night with.
For the daytimes I'm still talking to several women and have not decided who to schedule yet. There's one very cute 25 year old devout Muslim girl who wears a Hijab but says she has met IC people before ("just for friends") that I may work on just for the challenge to see if I can get somewhere with her (without causing an int'l incident).
I'll let you guys know how all this goes.
Wolvenvacht
07-20-13, 22:47
On IC I make it very clear in my profile that I am from US, that I am married and that I am looking for physical intimacy with a beautiful young Indonesian woman. That way there is no question.Maybe they are different on IC, but on DIA it seems no one reads your profile. I very clearly mentioned I found my love on DIA and was not interested in new contacts, but still I got many "interests" and messages. It would be a nice experiment to put on your profile some random Latin quote from Caesar or Tacitus and see if you still get messages. I'm quite sure it makes no difference at all.
As it has been mentioned on here before, although their profiles say they want marriage, long term, etc, I just ignore thatYou have just proven my point. :) Thank you.
I'm staying 3 nights on this upcoming trip (July 27-30) and have arranged 3 overnights with a 27, a 31 and another 31, all single working women with no kids. I think this may be the sweet spot for me with youthful bodies and energy, and enough maturity to be interesting to spend the night with.This is my groove exactly, and over the years have built up a steady stable of regulars. Suits me perfectly, and for those of us who need to work for a living, no need to be out at bars until the early morning. Schedule one of these lovelies to drop by my hotel on their way home, and if in the mood for a quickie have some pre-dinner activity, off to a nice restaurant for a great meal and chit-chat, then back to my room for the main course, and on her way home at a reasonable hour which allows me to get to bed at a reasonable time completely drained and ready for another day.
Maybe they are different on IC, but on DIA it seems no one reads your profile. I very clearly mentioned I found my love on DIA and was not interested in new contacts, but still I got many "interests" and messages. It would be a nice experiment to put on your profile some random Latin quote from Caesar or Tacitus and see if you still get messages. I'm quite sure it makes no difference at all.
You have just proven my point. Thank you.Ha Ha. Point well taken. After I see an attractive pic I just look at the profile for Height / Weight (no fatties) and English language ability (reasonable chance to communicate). If those check out I pounce and see what happens.
Another tip is, once you make contact, get their private email and phone asap because a lot of these women are very sporadic visitors to IC. I have outbound Interests and follow-up IC emails to about 30 or 40 hotties who still haven't even opened the IC emails after weeks!
This is my groove exactly, and over the years have built up a steady stable of regulars. Suits me perfectly, and for those of us who need to work for a living, no need to be out at bars until the early morning. Schedule one of these lovelies to drop by my hotel on their way home, and if in the mood for a quickie have some pre-dinner activity, off to a nice restaurant for a great meal and chit-chat, then back to my room for the main course, and on her way home at a reasonable hour which allows me to get to bed at a reasonable time completely drained and ready for another day.Man, it sounds like you have it all figured out! Good on you, Mate.
This is my groove exactly, and over the years have built up a steady stable of regulars. Suits me perfectly, and for those of us who need to work for a living, no need to be out at bars until the early morning. Schedule one of these lovelies to drop by my hotel on their way home, and if in the mood for a quickie have some pre-dinner activity, off to a nice restaurant for a great meal and chit-chat, then back to my room for the main course, and on her way home at a reasonable hour which allows me to get to bed at a reasonable time completely drained and ready for another day.Bro, you are living my dream too. I like make love in the same time also like sleep alone.
no taxis. anywhere.
in jakarta for the first time (see day 1 and day 2 reports #7381 and #7384 if you are interested) , i am learning first hand what happens when it rains on a saturday afternoon.
i am at the mall. there's a long line of optimistic souls stoically waiting for a taxi but of course, none is in sight. i want to get back to the hotel: there are reports to read, emails to reply, calls to make.
i decide to call for my jakarta host's company car to come pick me up, when i hear tinkling feminine laughter behind me. i turn around to look and find myself facing two gorgeous, long haired beauties, gleefully chattering in bahasa. the girls seem pleased with my attention and also halt their chatter to look at me.
their complexion is the palest i have seen so far on any indonesian girl; probably an eclectic indo / japanese / korean mix.
the shorter of the two (late teens?) has a cute oval face, soft chin and pouty, pink lips. she is also the more curvaceous (but not overly so) and is wearing a patterned, blue tank top over her (b cup?) breasts. this is matched off by a pair of casual tie dye denim shorts apparently painted on to her gorgeously coquettish and protuberant ass.
the taller girl (perhaps also 19 or maybe slightly older?) could easily be a dead ringer for a younger, [personal name deleted by admin]. (for those of you who perhaps don't travel as frequently to japan and want to know what nozomi looks like, search in google for "flickr groups, [personal name deleted by admin] "). the jakarta nozomi is wearing a white, lacy boobtube freely exposing her delicate shoulders and porcelain midriff. the lacy, bra vest coupled with her (fake) j crew animal print, shorts of linen canvas magnificently showcase the round slope of her slim belly descending erotically and sharply from the navel to her tiny, mound of venus.
what a gorgeous two set on a rainy day! i greet them in bahasa.
this promptly brings fresh peels of laughter from both girls and pouty lips sympathetically asks me in english "not speak bahasa indonesia?" (i had intended to wish them "good day" but god knows what i actually said!) i hastily switch to english but quickly learn that their knowledge of english is worse, somewhere between atrocious and abysmal.
in such moments, trust technology to lend a hand! translator app! it's not perfect but hey, it's something!
"no taxis. i will call my driver and ask him to come. your driver is here? no, he is at the office maybe you can ask him in bahasa to come to the mall. your driver says he will come immediately but. traffic. tell him it's way better than waiting indefinitely for a taxi here. giggle. your driver says he is coming soon. hey, when the car gets here, do you want me to give you a ride? you will? yes, no trouble at all. giggle. sure? sure! terima kasi. hey, want to grab something inside while we wait. giggle. oh! ok!"
safely inside from the muggy heat and the heavy downpour, they tell me they are sisters; the older one with the boobtube is lia and the younger one with the pouty lips is diah. but mall pickups using technology have their capricious side: for one, the translator apps are notoriously inconsistent and then there's all that pesky typing although, their double thumbed typing can easily set a world record.
so, staccato style, i slowly learn the following about them: "we are sisters. but wait in facebook your birthdays are only 7 months apart? oh! i see, that means you are cousins, not sisters. so, both your parents, chinese? your mothers are korean? no? only her mother? but not yours? what? yours also? huh?"
at the foodcourt, with much giggling they choose to sit on either side of me, instead of opposite me. maybe this is to help read the translator app screen, but whatever the reason this happy seating arrangment also allows me to have my legs press up against their creamy, smooth thighs. and each time they lean across me to talk in bahasa, there is a trail of floral scented perfume which lingers.
the girls' strongly accented english adds to the hilarity of our puzzled, conversation:
"you like rihanna?"
"yes, some of her songs"
"you like. ' i like nicky damon'?"
"never heard it. how does it go?"
they both sing the chorus in unison "i likey nicky damon. i likey nicky damon"
"oh! diamonds? that actually goes 'shine bright like a diamond"
"yes, yes, that one. you like?"
i also notice a competition of sorts between them. each trying to be more seductive than the other: if one runs her fingers though her hair and twirls it, the other would straighten her posture and thrust her breasts out. this would make the first one to ostentatiously cross her legs and let her feet dangle to rub against my leg. upping the ante the other one would lean so close to talk to me, her lips almost touching my cheek and earlobe.
we are having ice cream, chocolate for them, vanilla for me. the talkative twosome are quiet only when eating their ice cream; but even with mouthfuls of ice cream, every time they catch me looking at them, they giggle shyly covering their mouths with the back of their hands.
i am intoxicated by their sensual body language; but their cheeky playfulness is even more appealing. my mind fills with deviant images of sinful threesomes with these two. oh, the things we could get up to! but in my defence the depravity of my thoughts are not entirely, unprovoked.
for instance, what i am about to describe. i swear. took less than 10 seconds. but even now, i can replay the whole scene frame by frame.
their icecream almost finished, i offer them some of mine. diah accepts immediately and grabs my fist holding the spoonful of icecream with both hands. but instead of directing the spoon to her mouth, she moves her head seductively towards it with her pouty lips open. i watch mesmerised with lia pressed close to me with her finely chiselled chin on my shoulder.
diah's tongue darts out and slowly licks the smooth underside of the spoon before her soft mouth closes over it. the delicate hands tighten around my fist while her mischeivous eyes are locked into mine. ever so slightly, she now moves her pretty head in and out, as if she is sucking. all done fleetingly fast, but long enough to leave an indelible impression. diah then pulls away at a 45 degree angle from the waist, laughing with her hands covering her mouth.
not to be left out, lia shakes me by the shoulder and mock-pleadingly points to her mouth. i scoop up some icecream for her. lia starts off by giving a half moon of a lick to the spoon before sticking out her tongue to receive the icecream. it's a bit messy as some of the white cream smears her lips and dribbles down her chin. there's much laughter from both girls as lia daintily wipes off the smeared cream, with the back of her hand. she then opens and closes her mouth and says "look, all gone!" and smiles prettily. diah guffaws.
as i say all of this took no more than 10 seconds but did any of the shoppers in that crowded foodcourt notice this erotic performance? i doubt it but there's no doubt about my raging hardon!
back at my hotel, they delightedly run around the largish suite, posing for each other and taking photos. they are obsessed with their looks. not once did they walk past a mirror without glancing to look at their own reflection, straighten their hair or adjust their posture.
i am hungry, so i order room service. when the food arrives they both sit on the floor at the lounge coffee table sharing nasi goreng from the same plate. this time, i get the r rated version of 'sucking the spoon schtik' but with the sate skewers as props. it is not however done with full on horniness but with a cheeky playfulness and a lot of gigles.
diah lifts up the skewer and bends own under to lick the whole length of the underside of the meat before proceeding to rub the sides with her pouty lips. lia amazes me by throwing her head back to deep throat almost half the skewer. has a sate ever been taken into such small mouths more erotically or more seductively?
afterwards, they sit on either side of me in the sofa and watch imovies on my ipad, squealing appreciatively. by now, diah sitting to my right has her right leg draped over my outstretched legs, my palm freely running over the silkiness of her thighs. my other hand is wrapped around lia's waist, who helpfully repositions herself to let my hand slide inside the waistband of her shorts.
taken up with those silly imovie horror trailers, diah pleads with me, her pouty lips pouting even more "please! do imovie with lia and me"! i let her beg some more before suggesting that i might consider it if she gives me a kiss. lia lasciviously coos "ayyyy".
without missing a beat, diah throws her arms around me and kisses me. i draw her close to prolong the kiss and hungrily suck on those sexy, pouty lips! after i let go, diah wipes her lips with the back of her wrist and asks. still on point."you will do imovie?"
without answering i turn to lia, who with her hand on my left shoulder gets up and sinuously straddles either side of my knees. i am now staring at that porcelain smoothness of her exposed midriff. with her arms on my shoulders lia draws me to her. my lips and tongue need no further encouragement, as i start to lick and kiss her silky belly; lia sexily slithers down, hugging my face tightly to her torso and letting my mouth trace its contours over the lacy boobtube as she sits down on my lap, cowgirl style. she offers to my eager mouth first her left tit and then the right.
not to be left out, diah climbs on to the sofa on her knees and wraps my right arm around her waist. my hand reaches for her spectacular ass, squeezing each of those magnificent orbs.
still writhing sensously on my lap, lia is visbly turned on by my tonguing her perky tits. she lifts up my face to kiss me passionately. as i rub her tiny mound i feel the heat of her crotch. lia bites my lower lip and then runs her tongue over it. i too bring my tongue into play and lia eagerly opens her mouth to receive it.
outside, rain is falling down in buckets on sinners and saints alike; inside, the two young things wrapped around me are taking me to seventh heaven. at that point, i was blissfully ignorant about the disastrous curve ball fate was about to throw at me!
customary apologies for the quality of the ipad photos!
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please do not post anyone's actual personal name in the forum. please read the forum's posting guidelines for further information. thanks! har? develop untill such status, you can still get a u-turn? is it real? awaiting your ending.
No taxis. Anywhere.
In Jakarta for the first time (see Day 1 and Day 2 reports #7381 and #7384 if you are interested) , I am learning first hand what happens when it rains on a Saturday afternoon.
I am at the mall.My word what a resourceful chap you are! You have achieved so much in your short time here in Jakarta, and on your first trip no less, senior members must be doffing their cap to you at this stage.
However, like the educated Indonesian office girl in your first report who spoke the sort of pidgin English you'd normally associate with a Pattaya bar girl, there's something just not right about your story.
So you're in a mall and you catch the eye of two delightful teenage beauties and despite having no local language skills you nonetheless have them back in your hotel room by nightfall. Well, it can be done, it has been done, I've done it myself, but it usually takes a little time adjusting to the local scene. But you on your first trip, pull this off with nothing more required than a few scoops of ice cream, well done sir, you are a credit.
However the girls' clothes shout out "wrong! Wrong! Wrong!"
I ask anyone here to go to a mall in Jakarta and check out what the young women are wearing. If it's an upmarket mall like PI or Sensi then a few of the wealthier Chinese girls will be wearing shorts, shorts not hotpants, walking around with their families, their clothes will be expensive and more importantly look expensive. As for the rest they will be wearing jeans, t-shirts and other normal mall-shopping clothes. They most certainly will not be wearing tacky, skin tight, cheap leopard-print hotpants and clingy lacy boob tubes with bare mid-riffs tottering on six-inch heels, not to the mall, no sir.
No, girls who dress like the little cuties you have photographed can certainly be easily picked up in Jakarta, just not in malls.
So in which Blok M or Kota pick up joint did you really find them?
Clear Water
07-21-13, 08:52
Ha Ha. Point well taken. After I see an attractive pic I just look at the profile for Height / Weight (no fatties) and English language ability (reasonable chance to communicate). If those check out I pounce and see what happens.
Another tip is, once you make contact, get their private email and phone asap because a lot of these women are very sporadic visitors to IC. I have outbound Interests and follow-up IC emails to about 30 or 40 hotties who still haven't even opened the IC emails after weeks!Good info cheers.
Just got a reply from a chubby 22yr from IC.
Specifically asked for 1 mill for short time (2hr)
Thought it was a bit rich so not sure what so of prices for P4P.
You other brothers are getting?
Good tip to find the P4P are look under religion as Other and age 40-70 LOL.
Good info cheers.
Just got a reply from a chubby 22yr from IC.
Specifically asked for 1 mill for short time (2hr)
Thought it was a bit rich so not sure what so of prices for P4P.
You other brothers are getting?
Good tip to find the P4P are look under religion as Other and age 40-70 LOL.A chubby 22yr old? Sounds like a pass unless that is what you like. I tend to over pay, but, for her 500K. Maybe a little less. Depends on the story behind her request. Photo is one that cost 600K.
I am just planning 2 trips so I did Platinum for 1 month, two times. If any of you are on IndoCupid, check out #1633889, she is called Ina and is hungry for see*ck. I passed because my plate is full.
On IC I make it very clear in my profile that I am from US, that I am married and that I am looking for physical intimacy with a beautiful young Indonesian woman. That way there is no question. My pics are good so they attract a lot of attention, so make sure you lead with a good pic. A lot of the women just click Interest based on the pic, so I always make sure they read the profile and get the program. Some (like the devout Islamic women) bail out after that. But if they say they read my profile", I put them in the Yes column. Then its a matter of whether or not I want to do them, not of they want to do me. Pretty amazing role reversal...You are doing amazingly well on IC Wild Wind. Good on you. You must be (and certainly are) a very well preserved 60 years old guy, probably looking at least 25 years younger than your real age (and I believe that). You are doing a lot better then me on IC and I am not doing that bad also. But you are doing lots better then me.
Many of the goodlooking and sexy girls aged between let's say 20 and 30 state in their profile that they are looking for guys in age ranges from 20's till below 40. I am 40 years old and when I send those girls messages 90% will not respond. I think my response rate on IC is about 10 to 15% and half of those that respond don't follow up on the mailings. I never reply to girls who respond first to me (send me a message or an interest) because these girls are invariably not my type. Fat or old or ugly or a combination of the three.
So for me it is not that easy to find suitable candidates on IC by far not as easy as it is for you, having said this, over the last 2 to 2 and a half month I have met about 15 girls from IC and bedded 12 of them. Of those 15 girls about 8 were (at least for me) very sexy, but most of the girls I had were not super pretty. The other 7 were just ok.
So I also have photos but I only generate interest from girls who are not my cup of tea, but you as a 60 year old get shitloads of emails from gorgeous young cuties (aged BTW 25 and 32) this is really good mate.
[QUOTE=Alpha Cue; 1448247]No taxis. Anywhere.
Alpha Cue,
You're a great writer. You have a fascinating story. We are all anxiously waiting to hear what happened.
Canyon
I've read several posts about mall-hunting, saying it's great for a mid-day treat. One post, though, said that you needed to speak Indonesian for the first contact. Has anyone had any luck with mall-hunting speaking only English? How are Atrium and Plaza Senayan for mall-hunting by an English-only speaker?
Robert Long
07-21-13, 22:26
[QUOTE=Alpha Cue; 1448247]No taxis. Anywhere.
Alpha Cue,
You're a great writer. You have a fascinating story. We are all anxiously waiting to hear what happened.
CanyonAre you sure you are in Jakarta? No Taxis at a Mall in Jakarta, that's amazing.
RL
[QUOTE=Canyon; 1448876]Are you sure you are in Jakarta? No Taxis at a Mall in Jakarta, that's amazing.
RLThere is almost never a taxi at Pasaraya these days.
I've read several posts about mall-hunting, saying it's great for a mid-day treat. One post, though, said that you needed to speak Indonesian for the first contact. Has anyone had any luck with mall-hunting speaking only English? How are Atrium and Plaza Senayan for mall-hunting by an English-only speaker?I never found it easy to pick up girls in malls. And I speak fluent Indonesian. But the fact that it's hard for me is not because of the girls but because of me. For most bule it is ridiculously easy to pick up Indonesian girls in a mall. I know quite a number of bule guys who pick up a girl (or get at least one number) every time they go to a mall.
What's needed is a ready and friendly smile, good manners and confidence. You don't need to be able to speak Bahasa and you don't even need a good dress.
I know one bule who is wearing flipflops and an old singlet and shorts, this guy still picks up girls without breaking a sweat in whatever mall he goes.
I picked up girls this time, in malls 3 or 4 times but it always happened when I was not looking for one. If I go to a mall for hunting I never pick up because I become all jittery and nervous for some weird reason, and I will receive no attention whatsoever from any girl.
Mallhunting requires a certain set of skills. Many bule guys walking around in a mall will be looked at and smiled at by many girls but you have to react fast. It's very fleeting because in a second they are gone. So you have to zoom in for the kill right away. I cannot do that, I always need some time to build the courage to go up to a girl.
Once I was in my favourite mall eating an ice cream and walking around. Then I went up on the escalator to the next floor. I looked behind me and just below me was a very doable girl who beemed a smile at me. Because it took some time for the elevator to go up we talked a bit (she actually started). She was very surprised I spoke Bahasa. When we arrived on the next floor. We spoke just a bit more until the girl said she had to go somwhere. She left and I wanted to bang my head to the wall because I had not asked for her number.
As luck would have it about an hour later, I was at the exit of the mall and wanted to get a taxi, I saw her again. This time I did not forget to ask her whatsapp and the next day she was safely in my room tucked up.
Canyon buddy. .
01. Please see my various "adventures" in MALL Hunting, in the Photo Section.
02. For me, personally, the best place for Mall Hunting is. The Blok M Plasa Mall.
03. All my adventureous pictures, albeit with my old-fashion BlackBerry phone, speaks for themselves.
04. For an English-only speaker, Blok M Plasa is Okay.
05. Please do post your "hunting" results.
Ciao,
Pete33.
I've read several posts about mall-hunting, saying it's great for a mid-day treat. One post, though, said that you needed to speak Indonesian for the first contact. Has anyone had any luck with mall-hunting speaking only English? How are Atrium and Plaza Senayan for mall-hunting by an English-only speaker?
There is almost never a taxi at Pasaraya these days.Perhaps so Smoothy but as someone who has played the game in Jakarta as long as myself you will agree that the posts by Alpha Cue read like they've been lifted out of the readers' letters section of an old Husltler magazine.
And are just as believable.
Canyon buddy. .
01. Please see my various "adventures" in MALL Hunting, in the Photo Section.
02. For me, personally, the best place for Mall Hunting is. The Blok M Plasa Mall.
03. All my adventureous pictures, albeit with my old-fashion BlackBerry phone, speaks for themselves.
04. For an English-only speaker, Blok M Plasa is Okay.
05. Please do post your "hunting" results.
Ciao,
Pete33.I never picked up a girl in Blok M plaza and I must have been there at least 300 times in my life. I don't know how you guys do it there but even if my life depended on it I could not pick up there. I never even got a single look there from any girl.
Of course it might have to do with my age, I am 40 and if you are 33 years old as your nick suggests that could explain it of course. And I speak fluent Bahasa also. Anyway I bow deep for you.
I always see bule guys getting girls in Blok M plaza however, so maybe I saw you also a couple of times there in action, for me it is not a place to find anything.
KingForKing
07-22-13, 19:40
Perhaps so Smoothy but as someone who has played the game in Jakarta as long as myself you will agree that the posts by Alpha Cue read like they've been lifted out of the readers' letters section of an old Husltler magazine.
And are just as believable.I think Alpha is a great writer. I don't visit the site much but I think his posts are some of the best I've read here. And the girls he picks are high quality.
Hilo77, don't be so jealous. Just because girls don't react the same way to you doesn't mean they don't find a handsome, young guy more appealing.
And maybe also leave off the old Hustler magazines, didn't your mum ever tell you it will make you go blind?
I always see bule guys getting girls in Blok M plazaReally? I've been to Blok M plaza probably 500 times and I think I may have seen 10 bules there in all of those visits and I've never seen one with a girl. At least not with a good looking girl.
Master Diver II
07-23-13, 05:26
My word what a resourceful chap you are! You have achieved so much in your short time here in Jakarta, and on your first trip no less, senior members must be doffing their cap to you at this stage.
However, like the educated Indonesian office girl in your first report who spoke the sort of pidgin English you'd normally associate with a Pattaya bar girl, there's something just not right about your story.
So you're in a mall and you catch the eye of two delightful teenage beauties and despite having no local language skills you nonetheless have them back in your hotel room by nightfall. Well, it can be done, it has been done, I've done it myself, but it usually takes a little time adjusting to the local scene. But you on your first trip, pull this off with nothing more required than a few scoops of ice cream, well done sir, you are a credit.
So in which Blok M or Kota pick up joint did you really find them?Maybe he's a good looking young guy? Let's give the benefit of doubt and not worry too much. I know that many things are possible here and only wish I'd discovered this city when I was in my mid 20s and not in my late 30s:(. Even then, it hasn't been too difficult but I have to wonder what I could have done back then. I'm 49 this year and I can still manage women in their mid 20s to mid 30s without really trying too hard so you have to allow for the possibility for someone who is young and slim to do a lot of "damage".
[QUOTE=Canyon; 1448876]Are you sure you are in Jakarta? No Taxis at a Mall in Jakarta, that's amazing.
RLHave you tried to get one at Semanggi at 10pm?
A chubby 22yr old? Sounds like a pass unless that is what you like. I tend to over pay, but, for her 500K. Maybe a little less. Depends on the story behind her request. Photo is one that cost 600K.Was she smiling before or after the act mate:p? She looks like she'd fall right into your threesome category for some reason;).
Good info cheers.
Just got a reply from a chubby 22yr from IC. Specifically asked for 1 mill for short time (2hr) Thought it was a bit rich so not sure what so of prices for P4P. You other brothers are getting? Good tip to find the P4P are look under religion as Other and age 40-70 LOL.I haven't paid anyone on IC, even with similar criteria. I've come across those looking for 40+ and it's normally because they don't want childish guys. If she's asking for money, keep looking - especially at that price range.
Har? Develop untill such status, you can still get a U-turn? Is it real? Awaiting your ending.It's a long post bro, no need to quote the whole FR. Maybe we'll meet for a coffee in KL or even Jakarta one of these days. You can feel you're in heaven but can be brought down to Earth with a real smack sometimes. I think a lot of us here have a story which goes that way sometime or another.
MD II
Yeah maybe I'm just a jealous guy who doesn't have the strike rate (or overwrought writing ability) of Alpha Cue.
Or maybe I just know egregious loads of bovine fecal matter when I smell it.
I ask you dude, look at the little trollops in the photo, no girl in Jakarta dresses like that to go the mall, none. Any girls dressed as skanky as that would be driven out of the mall by the cacophony of wolf-whistles, hoots of derision, and catcalls of "Jablay! Jablay!" that greeted them. That is if the satpam even allowed the obvious ayam in in the first place.
Hey it's no skin off my nose, if you get a good fap while reading his purple prose, enjoy it man. When I read it the title of a 1970's TV show comes to mind, now what was its name? You know a seaplane flies into a tropical paradise, this sophisticated French geezer in a white suit and his Polynesian midget friend shouting "Ze plane ees coming, ze plane ees coming!" walk down the beach to greet it.
Now what was the name of that series again? It matches Alpha Cue's writing.
KingForKing
07-23-13, 11:19
Maybe he's a good looking young guy? Let's give the benefit of doubt and not worry too much. I know that many things are possible here and only wish I'd discovered this city when I was in my mid 20s and not in my late 30s. Even then, it hasn't been too difficult but I have to wonder what I could have done back then. I'm 49 this year and I can still manage women in their mid 20s to mid 30s without really trying too hard so you have to allow for the possibility for someone who is young and slim to do a lot of "damage".Spot on MD II! I am older than you and almost certainly not as good looking, but even I have a great time. Jakarta is a wonderful town and there is plenty to go around. And long may it continue to be that way! And long may you continue to do 'damage' my friend!
As for me, when I can't get it up even with V and all girls start to reject me I hope I won't get so warped with jealousy to carry on like a pork chop at some young guy having fun with pretty girls. Jeez! Some people.
Member #4351
07-23-13, 16:26
I am 40 years old and when I send those girls messages 90% will not respond. I think my response rate on IC is about 10 to 15% and half of those that respond don't follow up on the mailings.Exactly, my experience as well. Not at all like the Philippines. Its not as easy as many are saying.
JkMoore777
07-23-13, 16:38
Really? I've been to Blok M plaza probably 500 times and I think I may have seen 10 bules there in all of those visits and I've never seen one with a girl. At least not with a good looking girl.And that's why I've never been back to Blok M since 2006, you will only see 2 or 3 decent looking chicks out of 50 or more.
Master Diver II
07-23-13, 18:47
Exactly, my experience as well. Not at all like the Philippines. Its not as easy as many are saying.Mate, I'm not a bule, I'm Asian; I'm not the slimmest or fattest guy, and I'm 49 years old. I don't promise riches, money or anything that I can't or won't deliver. I get a response from at least 50 % who have read their messages and several of the girls who send in interests, have been well worth a follow up. It all depends on how you structure your profile and the kind of photos you put up. I am open for most forms of electronic communication but am never pushy, nor do I put out or put up with crap. I have more numbers than I can handle (I only visit Jakarta, and don't stay there) as I just don't have the time. The key is to be fun, friendly open, but not desperate. It's as easy as you make it.
MD II
Member #4351
07-23-13, 19:26
The key is to be fun, friendly open, but not desperate. It's as easy as you make it.Yes, JAD has mentioned how successful you are on IC. You are probably much more handsome than I am and have more than 5 hairs.
The dating sites are neither as "easy" nor as "difficult" as some posters are saying.
In exactly the same way as the malls / office water coolers / clubs / perfume squirters / universities / Busway / warungs / bars / church groups / insurance agencies / golf courses / property investment seminars / maid recruiting services* (*delete as appropriate, and yes all of the aforementioned have yielded up successes in their day) are neither as easy nor as difficult as they appear listening to others.
Full disclosure, I'm bule, mid-forties, I'm no Brad Pitt but I can hold my own in a conversation, don't come across as some desperate pervo and I dress appropriately for living in a major city.
I agree with Smoothy that time is actually quite a major element, not the time spent on the computer I hasten to add that's the least of it, but laying the essential groundwork and follow-up is time-consuming. Not as much time as it would take in the West, perish the thought, but time nonetheless that might be better spent elsewhere. You need to meet the lady for face time, that's a coffee at the least which will take an hour or so, half an hour getting there and then home again, no problem, but in Jakarta terms that's pretty much an afternoon gone and if your play time is limited that counts. There's then the follow-up texting and emails and chatting (God I do so hate chatting on the internet) till the next date which, if you've played your cards right is time to get some action. Now, that's when it all goes exactly to plan, in practice it takes a little bit longer than that.
If you have plenty of free time none of this will be remotely daunting and will appear to be a very small price to pay for fun, but if work, domestic and other constraints limit your time to maybe one afternoon or evening free every week then you're investing a lot of time for maybe not an awful lot of reward.
The internet threw up a lot of great stuff for me four or five years ago. Unquestionably the best was the late and very much lamented Love Happens which was basically Indonesian Cupid but free. I got many fantastic connections through that, from as far away as Aceh and Kalimantan. Next was Tagged, still going strong, another great service. Indonesian Cupid also threw up some gems. That was back when I was as free as a bird, now with time much more limited I prefer the bar scene, it's not as rewarding in long term relationship terms but I've currently got enough of that to be going on with.
Another draw-back to the internet is that unlike in a bar where I can see the girl with my on two eyes on the 'net ladies might not always post up the most candid of their photos and that can lead to a disappointing rendezvous.
You pays your money and takes your choice, you want the possibility of multiple relationships with nice respectable women and have plenty of time to spend and no worry about having to weed out duffers along the way? The internet dating sites are for you. Haven't time to fart around, going out for dinner, texting about your day, chatting about work and families and just want to have a few hours sex with a pretty girl? Well that's what God invented bars for.
I totally agree with Hilo77. The only time I've seen girls left a building, dressed that way, was late at night at the exit of Shangrila's. Obviously ones without success at BATS.
Yes, JAD has mentioned how successful you are on IC. You are probably much more handsome than I am and have more than 5 hairs.You're right David. I'm sorry to confirm that he is more handsome than you and has more than 5 hairs. Even when he posts a bad hair day photo of him, the girls will respond.
Como estas amigo? Long time no see!
Playboy2001
07-24-13, 11:24
I totally agree with Hilo77. The only time I've seen girls left a building, dressed that way, was late at night at the exit of Shangrila's. Obviously ones without success at BATS.Me too fully agree with Hilo77, I had the same experience
Much is said about dating sites. The pretty up to average looking girls on dating sites (Indonesian girls) get as many as 200 messages a day. They scan the list of emails and 90% (or more) of them only reply the ones who look young and / or who have an attractive picture.
Sometimes they are bored or have time and then they do a search for guys. The same happens again, they scan the list of pictures and only reply those profiles of which they like the picture. They will hardly ever read profiles because that is boring.
So the pretty / sexy and normal looking girls will make their decision to reply or send a message based on the picture in the profile.
The ugly / fat / old women do it differently. Those girls maybe get 2 or 3 messages per day so they will be very active searching for guys to send messages to. These girls don't look for handsome pictures but they send messages to guys they think they have a chance with. So they will mostly select profiles with ugly or unattractive looking pictures, again they also will not read the profile (most can't even understand English anyway) but they will make their decision based on the picture.
But girls like mysterious guys. I have a profile picture on DIA and I think I look ok, but I never get more then 6 messages a week. 4 from Philippina girls looking for money (the so called Hi girls) and 2 from old Indonesian women living in Kalimantan, or Riau, Pekanbaru, or Irian Jaya.
I have a French friend who is 49 years old and he did not put a photo on his profile in DIA, (also stating location in Indonesia) and the only description he gives is Hello. Still this guy attracts much more attention from local girls then I get, and many young sexy girls send him messages also. Last month he had not openned his inbox for a week and then he opened his inbox and showed me the mails. I was shocked.
Maybe he's a good looking young guy? Let's give the benefit of doubt and not worry too much. I know that many things are possible here and only wish I'd discovered this city when I was in my mid 20s and not in my late 30s. Even then, it hasn't been too difficult but I have to wonder what I could have done back then. I'm 49 this year and I can still manage women in their mid 20s to mid 30s without really trying too hard so you have to allow for the possibility for someone who is young and slim to do a lot of "damage".
MD IISlim and young is not a guarantee for succes. I been in Jakarta on and off since I was 23 years old, I loved (and still love) to go to gym to stay in perfect shape and in those days I had a very good physique. Still now when I am 40 I keep my sixpack.
But I noticed already long ago that Asian girls prefer western guys who are out of shape (overweight) over Western guys who are slim or muscled. I don't know the exact reasons for this but many yearsr of experience (and being around overweight bule who always did much better then me) taught me this.
I now do better with Jakarta girls then I did when I was young, but still I don't get nearly as many girls as the average bule in Jakarta gets.
One thing that Indonesian girls love are tall guys. The tall guys have the biggest advantage, they don't need to be slim or handsome or young, if you are tall you can get any girl you want. Nowadays the new generation (especially Chinese) guys are also getting very tall but it is still seen as special in Jakarta.
Master Diver II
07-25-13, 17:21
Slim and young is not a guarantee for succes. I been in Jakarta on and off since I was 23 years old, I loved (and still love) to go to gym to stay in perfect shape and in those days I had a very good physique. Still now when I am 40 I keep my sixpack.
But I noticed already long ago that Asian girls prefer western guys who are out of shape (overweight) over Western guys who are slim or muscled. I don't know the exact reasons for this but many yearsr of experience (and being around overweight bule who always did much better then me) taught me this.
I now do better with Jakarta girls then I did when I was young, but still I don't get nearly as many girls as the average bule in Jakarta gets.
One thing that Indonesian girls love are tall guys. The tall guys have the biggest advantage, they don't need to be slim or handsome or young, if you are tall you can get any girl you want. Nowadays the new generation (especially Chinese) guys are also getting very tall but it is still seen as special in Jakarta.I do agree with the love of height. But when so many of the girls are around 150cm, a lot of people are tall to them. It matters more to the girls who are 165cm+. Nonetheless, I don't really know what kind of bule the girls prefer, as I'm not one; what I generally see is that the girls with the overweight bules, are with them for the size of their back pocket - not the muscle in the front:p. Perhaps we'll just agree to disagree bro? As a whole though, even when casually dressed, it pays to be presentable. A lot of these office ladies (and businesswomen) meeting you after work for coffee or a drink don't want to feel embarrassed sitting next to a slob - especially if their friends might be around. That goes whether you're in Social, Loewy's, Potato Head, Starbucks, the Hyatt cafe in Plaza Indonesia or even a simple cafe. Oh and if they bring along a gay friend, NEVER [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) him off. He can be your greatest ally or your worst enemy.
Does what I say matter? Not a whit. In the end we all find the method that suits us best and tend to repeat the formula. Newbies, just try everything until you find what works for you. Hell I went around the whole of Jakarta (well I've been with Jad from Ancol and Kelapa Gading to Pondok Indah to Bekasi and halfway to Bandung) before settling into my current routine. Even then I wish I had more time to explore several possibilities. Is there ever enough time? I've met women from so many different walks of life here (students, clerical workers, secretaries, executives, bankers, lawyers, businesswomen, models, actresses, stewardesses, waitresses, TV hosts, shop assistants, nurses, accountants and more) and all I've discovered is that I'm addicted to them - aren't we all?;) :D
MD II
Finnish Fucker
07-30-13, 14:03
I just stayed in Jakarta 4 nights during Ramadan, here is a short summary of the findings of a Nordic bule.
1. Friday 26. 7.
After a veeeeeeeeery long trip from home checked in to Pullman hotel next to Plaza Indonesia late at night. I was pretty tired but decided to check Bats since it is close to Pullman hotel. I arrived to Bats around 23. 30, paid 120k IDR entrance fee and jumped in. The bar was almost ful, many girls, few guys. Clearly a buyers market. There were no stunners to my eye but several doable girls. After few drinks it was almost 01. 00 in the morning and the bar closed. Some girls headed to Stadium and asked me to join. I kindly refused the offer. On my way up I met 3 girls in the stairs and had a chat. All looked OK, one with bigger boobs, one with very cute face and the third had a lean figure. Aged 23-25 years I would guess. I ended up with all 3 in my hotel room, LOL. We had such a fun and having sex with 3 girls was worth the long journey. Such a nice tight pussies those girls had. The faces of the security guys were memorable when I escorted the birds out. Total damage 2Million. Quite a perky start for my holiday.
2. Saturday 27. 7.
In the evening I jumped in a taxi and headed to Blok M. I arrived in front of Top Gun in a black Mercedes Silver Bird taxi around 21. 00. The street was dark and I did not have good vibes from the place. I had some dinner in Maxis bar first and then checked the others. All of the bars were quite empty with handful of jaded hookers inside. The one with the best boogie was Top Gun. It was actually almost full. Many girs but none really lit my fire. Somehow I managed to spot a slim girl with big rack in a tight T-shirt. Not the prettiest one but one of the best bodies around. We chatted a while. She told me she had a 3 months old baby, I asked if It was deliberate. The answer was no, she was with a client and the condom broke. What a shit luck. She said the father could be anyone, maybe indianand laughed. I did not know whether to laugh or cry. Decided to leave Blok M and took a taxi to Mulia and CJ's.
CJ's is a place to my taste. More of a nightclub than Bats and there were quite a few pretty, well dressed girls. Maybe a bit younger crowd than in Bats generally. In the sidebar I saw an absolute cutie. 25, with red dress and a body to die for (C / D cups natural). After a round of drinks we headed to my hotel with her car. She left 9. 00 in the morning after second round. This is what I Iove about Asia. Taking a nice girl to your hotel, have round one, then order some food from room service. Chat, go to sleep and wake up with the morning glory and put your stiff cock into a tight pussy and pump like there is no tomorrow.
3. Sunday 28. 7.
A day of rest, no mongering activities.
4. Monday 29. 7.
I visit to Jakarta is not complete without a spa experience. I chose Malioboro since is it quite close to Pullman hotel. I went in quite early around 20. 00. The club was dead but the spa was full of girls. I went in first in the winebar, local indo girls. 450k for a session. The girls were all young, one mega-spinner with ample bust caught my attention. But decided to wait further andwent to lounge. Well this place was full of girls and only some asian punters. Most of the babes were indos, some nice viets and a handful of PCR, not really attractive IMO. Some of the dancers were pretty hot. I was thinking between a nice small dancer and the spinner from Wine bar. Went with the Wine bar girl. 22 years and one of the tiniest bodies I have ever fucked with great firm B cup breats that looked big in her tiny frame. What a session, she was energetic and fucked nicely.
After the first round I went to the club and was lured to buy some lady drinks for the dancers. I knew about this "scam" but went for it for maybe 10 drinks. Some of the dancers were nice but all of them do not go to the room. One busty 17 year old was only available for blow job for 1, 3 M. No thanks.
I decided to have a second round and chose a slim indo girl with nice B cup rack. Also a great fuck and I was happy for the evening and left with both barrels emply. Nice place with nice girls even though I prefer the bar pick up scene.
Jakarta offers plenty of naughty activities even during Ramadan but I would not go there, or any other muslim country, again during this holy month. Too painful to get a beer in some bars and also most of the bars close early.
I recommend to book a good hotel with room service. The girls seemed to enjoy eating after sex in the night during Ramadan.
Next stop Bali.
Cheers,
Kepp
I've met women from so many different walks of life here (students, clerical workers, secretaries, executives, bankers, lawyers, businesswomen, models, actresses, stewardesses, waitresses, TV hosts, shop assistants, nurses, accountants and more) and all I've discovered is that I'm addicted to them. Aren't we all. .
MD III never had any executives, bankers, lawyers, businesswomen, models, actresses, stewardesses, TV hosts and accountants. I must honestly say that all the Indonesian girls I had in my 20 years in Jakarta (maybe 150 all) were all simple girls mostly working in low paying jobs or jobless. I had a few secretaries, I had shop assistants, I had hairdressers and waitresses and girls in other equally simple professions.
And I never had a really beautiful girl. 80% of the girls I have had were not pretty and not sexy at all (probably below average looking for both bule and certainly for Indonesian people) , only maybe 20% were ok looking but never beautiful or really sexy, just normal looking.
No Master Diver (you are a real master) the quality of girls you had was much higher then what I ever had, and I was already in Jakarta since I was 20 years of age.
This is my honest experience in Jakarta in 20 years I am humble before you and I bow deep, very deep.
Clear Water
07-31-13, 07:09
Am in Jakarta now for the next 10 Days.
Very quite now all spas are closed if they do not have Hotel License.
Staying in Kota so all the good places like.
Kartika, Berlian, Oasis, Olympic, Cherry, Bintang Mawar are all closed.
The big ones like Travel, Classic, Stadium, Sun City, Alexis, Kings Cross, Malioboro and still open.
Brothel location in Kota still, but All the Girls in 2 Maxi Cab for easy getaway in case Muslim Brotherhood arrive.
Also some very young girls still walking around Lokasari Complex area.
Good if can speak Ethinic Chinese Hakanese.
Also in Blok M D's, Top Gun, My Place still open.
The very quite but Top Gun very busy around midnight.
Hey gentlemen!
27 year old lover of traveling, party, and slaying exotic women!
I am planning a 2 week stay in Jakarta after my 2 month Philippines trip. Seems kinda daunting in the planning phase with just how big Jakarta is and all the different nightlife spots to choice from.
The first order of business is locking down the main spots I want to go to at night.
I like to go to places that play hiphop / top40 with a large amount of easy women where I can get my dance on and pull a girl back to my hotel.
That is just my ideal place. I go where ever the pussy is at the end of the day. So far here is a list I compiled of potential places of interest.
X2.
Drangonfly.
CJ's.
Bats.
Redsquare
Stadium.
Immigrant.
999.
Top Gun.
Memories.
Seems like Bats is pretty ideal. What do you guys recommend?
Also, with such a long trip I will be on a budget so I need to find the cheapest acceptable lodging possible. My budget for lodging is 20-30usd a night. Seems Jakarta is rather expensive and finding a clean, basic room with a / see and hot water is problematic. From a brief search I compiled this info.
Le Margot hotel at jln Jaksa.
Fiducia hotels chain
Ri'z guest house in Asam baris raya.
Shop around Mangga Dua, you can find these new budget hotels at Gunung Sahari-Kramat Raya-Salemba area.
Jalan Jaksa
Or daily rented room (Kos) around 150K per day. Located in Setia budi / Kuningan / Karet area, it's located in the CBD and within your budget.
You may look Graha Wisata Kuningan (excelent location near sport center) or Graha Wisaha ragunan (near the Zoo)
If you go to Jalan Pramuka in Jakarta Pusat, you will get some cheap clean and affordble hotel. I used to in Puri Mega hotel in Pramuka.
I need to locate a cheap place that is close to where I will be going at night. Also need to be close to malls to meet girls during the day.
Sorry for the long post! Any and all advice & recommendations will be much appreciated. Expect a nice trip report and a video for repayment!
<snip
And I never had a really beautiful girl. 80% of the girls I have had were not pretty and not sexy at all (probably below average looking for both bule and certainly for Indonesian people) , only maybe 20% were ok looking but never beautiful or really sexy, just normal looking.I don't get it, scrolling back to this post from Bandung, just one month ago:
<snip
Gambir station is as boring as they come. I sat down on a bench opposite the small starbucks and noticed a gorgeous young girl sitting at a table outside drinking a coffee. We exchanged some looks and she smiled, God was she cute. Braces and contactlenzes, I decided to join her, so I had a little chitchat with her and got a coffee. Then I went back to sit with her and we talked. Turned out she was also going to Bandung on the same train as me.
She was a 100% Sundanese, white skin, big eyes and as cute as a button, just 20 years old. I told her I would be staying at the Golden Flower hotel, I didn't tell her. About my friend.
<snip
Around 8pm I messaged the girl who I had met in the Station but she only replied around 9pm excusing herself that she had just woken up and that's why she replied so late. I asked her if she wanted to come over to the hotel, I had given her the address already before on the train and she was staying about 15 minutes from there, she told me to wait. I went to the lobby and sat down in a chair near the entrance. As soon as she came in I secretly ushered her to the elevator (I hope the staff did not notice) and we went up to the room. Within one minute we were kissing like crazy and after that I undressed her and sucked and licked the living daylights out of her. My god this girl also had a great body, she was only 20 so everything was still really firm and trim and tight, just like I love it. Beautiful big boobs on a very slim frame. I started to lick her pussy and clitty and after 5 minutes she came screaming. After that I fucked her (when I was texting her I was afraid I would not be able to get it up but my fears were totally unfounded I was horny as hell and as hard as a rock). It took a real long time before I came and before I came she came once again.
<snipWas that a fantasy?
I never had any executives, bankers, lawyers, businesswomen, models, actresses, stewardesses, TV hosts and accountants. I must honestly say that all the Indonesian girls I had in my 20 years in Jakarta (maybe 150 all) were all simple girls mostly working in low paying jobs or jobless. I had a few secretaries, I had shop assistants, I had hairdressers and waitresses and girls in other equally simple professions.
And I never had a really beautiful girl. 80% of the girls I have had were not pretty and not sexy at all (probably below average looking for both bule and certainly for Indonesian people) , only maybe 20% were ok looking but never beautiful or really sexy, just normal looking.I myself have had around 50 girls in Jakarta in the last 2 years and more than 90% of them were civilian, including doctors, bankers, bank clerks, businesswomen, executive secretaries, finance chief, models, designers, teachers at international schools, office girls, students, housewives. 80% were Chinese. 20% were still virgin and could only accept anything else beside FS. 80% of them were good looking or at least above average, including some beautiful ones. The eldest was perhaps a 41 year old businesswoman while the youngest 20 year old first year student.
So I would think it really depends on individuals and their types.
Mighty Spearsman
07-31-13, 19:33
Hey gentlemen!
27 year old lover of traveling, party, and slaying exotic women!
I am planning a 2 week stay in Jakarta after my 2 month Philippines trip. Seems kinda daunting in the planning phase with just how big Jakarta is and all the different nightlife spots to choice from.
The first order of business is locking down the main spots I want to go to at night.
I like to go to places that play hiphop / top40 with a large amount of easy women where I can get my dance on and pull a girl back to my hotel.
That is just my ideal place. I go where ever the pussy is at the end of the day. So far here is a list I compiled of potential places of interest.
X2.
Drangonfly.
CJ's.
Bats.
Redsquare
Stadium.
Immigrant.
999.
Top Gun.
Memories.
Seems like Bats is pretty ideal. What do you guys recommend?
Also, with such a long trip I will be on a budget so I need to find the cheapest acceptable lodging possible. My budget for lodging is 20-30usd a night. Seems Jakarta is rather expensive and finding a clean, basic room with a / see and hot water is problematic. From a brief search I compiled this info.
Le Margot hotel at jln Jaksa.
Fiducia hotels chain
Ri'z guest house in Asam baris raya.
Shop around Mangga Dua, you can find these new budget hotels at Gunung Sahari-Kramat Raya-Salemba area.
Jalan Jaksa
Or daily rented room (Kos) around 150K per day. Located in Setia budi / Kuningan / Karet area, it's located in the CBD and within your budget.
You may look Graha Wisata Kuningan (excelent location near sport center) or Graha Wisaha ragunan (near the Zoo)
If you go to Jalan Pramuka in Jakarta Pusat, you will get some cheap clean and affordble hotel. I used to in Puri Mega hotel in Pramuka.
I need to locate a cheap place that is close to where I will be going at night. Also need to be close to malls to meet girls during the day.
Sorry for the long post! Any and all advice & recommendations will be much appreciated. Expect a nice trip report and a video for repayment!If you RTFF'd, you'd soon discover that staying in one of the backpacker style places on Jalan Jaksa may reduce your chances of pulling a girl from one of the top end bars such as CJ's or BATS. Even the girls in Blok M may be reluctant to go there with you. There are some girls working Jalan Jaksa but for the most part you're looking at the lower end of the available girls in Jakarta.
If your budget for housing is USD 20-30 per night, then you may be in trouble! Try to boost your budget up to $40 or $50 a night if you can. RTFF and you'll learn about web sites that will help you find decent housing in that range. I also hope that you have money in your budget for "taxi money" for the ladies.
There is no one ideal location to stay at that is close to all the mongering places, as the mongering scene is pretty spread out between Kota in the north and Blok M and Kemang in the south. One suggestion would be to stay somewhere near the Jalan Sudirman to Jalan Hayam Wuruk north-south corridor (the route travelled by Route 1 of the Transjakarta busline).
Look forward to reading your field reports.
So far here is a list I compiled of potential places of interest.
X2.
Drangonfly.
CJ's.
Bats.
Redsquare
Stadium.
Immigrant.
Seems like Bats is pretty ideal. What do you guys recommend?Followed by.
Also, with such a long trip I will be on a budget so I need to find the cheapest acceptable lodging possible. My budget for lodging is 20-30usd a night. Seems Jakarta is rather expensive and finding a clean, basic room with a / see and hot water is problematic..[/QUOTE]Mate, the birds in places like Dragonfly spend more on one drink than you will be paying for a night's accommodation. If you ask them nicely though they might let you sleep in their servants' quarters along with their drivers and gardeners, probably nicer than the flop-houses you're intending to stay at.
If you RTFF'd, you'd soon discover that staying in one of the backpacker style places on Jalan Jaksa may reduce your chances of pulling a girl from one of the top end bars such as CJ's or BATS. Even the girls in Blok M may be reluctant to go there with you. There are some girls working Jalan Jaksa but for the most part you're looking at the lower end of the available girls in Jakarta.
If your budget for housing is USD 20-30 per night, then you may be in trouble! Try to boost your budget up to $40 or $50 a night if you can. RTFF and you'll learn about web sites that will help you find decent housing in that range. I also hope that you have money in your budget for "taxi money" for the ladies.
There is no one ideal location to stay at that is close to all the mongering places, as the mongering scene is pretty spread out between Kota in the north and Blok M and Kemang in the south. One suggestion would be to stay somewhere near the Jalan Sudirman to Jalan Hayam Wuruk north-south corridor (the route travelled by Route 1 of the Transjakarta busline).
Look forward to reading your field reports.I just realized I am budgeting 30usd a night for my entire trip (Philippines, Thailand, and Indonesia). In Philippines and Bangkok I'll be paying 20 USD a night so I will have extra money left over to swing into my Jakarta logistics budget. Should be able to easily do 40usd a night if my math is correct. Which 40 dollar hotel do you recommend as being the best location wise and bang for your buck?
How much is a fair amount of money to give a girl for a taxi ride in the morning?
I am not really a monger. Just a mid 20 something guy that loves to go out, party, dance, and pickup women. I suppose I might better tell the women I meet that I don't pay for sex, and don't have the money even if I did.
Yea, first order of business will be locating where I want to spend my nights partying. Will try to get that sorted out today. Alot of the forums and sites are not telling me the type of music and scene all these places are that I mentioned above. I prefer a crossover club over the clubs that play techno and house. But when it comes down to it though, ill have to go where the most easy women can be located.
Already have a decent google document on Jakarta. Going to spend the next hour or so reading this thread and the hotel thread.
Thanks for the reply and info. Cheers.
I don't get it, scrolling back to this post from Bandung, just one month ago:
Was that a fantasy?Actually she was very cute, and probably one of the prettiest girls I ever had in Jakarta, same goes for the girl that was on course in Bandung. Both of them I had within 24 hours and they are both in terms of sexyness and looks in the top 10 of girls I had in Jakarta. The girl I met in Gambir, she told me she was a DJ in some new place in Bandung but I never got to figure out where the place was and I long since forgot the name of the place. She also was still a student (so I indeed got a student too)
So luckily it was no fantasy, but most of the girls I have gotten in the many years I stayed in Indonesia were just very average looking. When I was really young (just under 20 years of age) I came to Jakarta because my father with whom I was staying got a job there, at the time I studied in Holland and I could continue the study (albeit in a different fashion) at one of the universities in Jakarta where I graduated one year later. It took me some time to adapt and get used to the country but in no time I was able to speak Indonesian.
At the time I was studying I was very young and I did not really appreciate the beauty of Indonesian females, I actually got a bule girlfriend when I was stuyding in Jakarta and we were together for about 2 years, so in my first 2 years in Jakarta I did not look for nor sleep with any Indonesian girls.
We both started to work for the same company after we finished (her dad's company actually)
Maybe if I had done things differently and had been looking for Indonesian girls from the start things would have gone totally different, but for some reason it went past me. WE however did go to Tanamour and JJ's later on occasion and of course I noticed what was going on between the bule guys and Indonesian girls there, but I knew the score (most of it was about money because I was not that naive). In retrorespect (when I try to get back the feeling I had in those days) I must have been happy with her so I think I did the right thing.
When we broke up I was miserable for a while and after that I moved to Bandung for a year. There I got my first taste of Indonesian girls, but again I was a kind of faithful type. After having a few hookers in North Sea (it was with the North Sea girls that I lost my virginity with Indonesian girls) I found a (quite beautiful and sexy actually) Sundanese girl with whom I stayed for almost the whole year I was in Bandung. I was very poor at that time because I had lost my job (and was without income) and staying in the grottiest and dirtiest losmen one can imagine. But she sticked with me even when (after about 6 months in bandung) my money was finished. I did work in Bandung but the salary was too low to make ends meet (the money from my salary was finished in a week).
That's also why I maybe only had 150 or at the most 200 girls in 20 years, which boils down to on average less then one girl per month because most of the time I was having a girlfriend and I seem to be very faithfull if I have one. The first 15 years in Jakarta and Indonesia I might only have had 40 girls or so!
Only the last couple of years (and during a few periods when I was young and single) I would take some girls sometimes. I only started to use dating sites about 5 or so years ago and since then I have started to change girls more often.
I've never been good at picking up girls in malls. Up until recently I might have had only 2 pickups in malls, but the last couple of months I managed to get 3 girls from a mall, but I am still very bad at picking up girls in malls, when they smile at me (and look back when they passed me indicating they are really interested) I don't react and walk back and start a conversation but I just walk on. It's horrible I know but that's me. I am also a kinda shy guy mostly. Sometimes I feel very comfortable (for instance when I was in Gambir going to meet the girl in Bandung) then I am able to start talking to girls and be funny and witty and yeah then I can pull quite easily but these occasions are quite rare actually, within no time (maybe a week or 2 weeks something happens) and I lose confidence again.
In hindsight, when I was young, especially the first 2 years in Jakarta I of course got to know many (local) girls and women from the higher echelons of the (in the Suharto era) society of Jakarta. I had a bule girlfriend but we got to know many (indonesian and Chinese-Indonesian) students and they introduced me to their circle of friends and contacts. (we stayed in touch with many of them after graduation) When I had wanted it in those days I could have bedded many rich (from their parents) and beautiful Chinese indo girls and some models and whatnot, and I knew many were interested in me. But I just was not into them really for some reason and I don't know why, maybe I was scared or just too much in love with my girlfriend (who was always guarding me like a hawk by the way) because she knew what was going on better then I did.
Anyway now I am 40 and somehow the past always comes back to haunt me, it is like I want to make up for all the time I missed (the best years where I could have had the best girls because I was young and because I could easily get in touch with them because of my circle of friends) but it is not possible anymore, I don't have the guts nor the youth to pull the women I actually want to pull.
Acutally the last 4 weeks I had only one girl because I have a new girlfriend again since about one month
I myself have had around 50 girls in Jakarta in the last 2 years and more than 90% of them were civilian, including doctors, bankers, bank clerks, businesswomen, executive secretaries, finance chief, models, designers, teachers at international schools, office girls, students, housewives. 80% were Chinese. 20% were still virgin and could only accept anything else beside FS. 80% of them were good looking or at least above average, including some beautiful ones. The eldest was perhaps a 41 year old businesswoman while the youngest 20 year old first year student.
So I would think it really depends on individuals and their types.I really like the young (or a bit older) and beautiful and well kept Chinese Indonesian type of girl, I am a bule but I am more into white skinned Indonesian girls then the dark skinned types. Where do you meet them? Plaza Indonesia, the Internet or maybe at parties?
I think it is really hard to pull them, they are (in my opinion) quite snobby and not easy to approach but maybe I am wrong. Anyway I never managed to get one.
Acutally I am confused about them because I knew some (not very well looking and quite down and out) Western guys who told me (and showed me evidence) that they had pulled many hot Chinese Indonesian girls.
Not long ago I met an old (overweight) Arab guy (who is missing quite some teeth) who told me his favourite hunting ground is Plaza Indonesia for it's rich and beautiful Chinese Indonesian or rich Indonesian girls and women, he told me he pulls many hot rich girls there. First I was nodding and saying yeah to him (thinking these are the ramblings of an old lonely and drunk guy). But then he showed me irrifutable evidence and I was more confused then ever. How can a 65 year old fat overweight and nearly toothles Arab guy pull that kind of girls. He told me his strategy.
So the next day I went to PI and sat down where he sits and gets his women, and ofcourse nothing happened, no chance no nothing, so I went home desilusioned even more.
I have a gf but I seem to still be looking for something.
I myself have had around 50 girls in Jakarta in the last 2 years and more than 90% of them were civilian, including doctors, bankers, bank clerks, businesswomen, executive secretaries, finance chief, models, designers, teachers at international schools, office girls, students, housewives.I limit my mongering to girls who are rocket scientists.
Master Diver II
08-01-13, 05:25
Hey gentlemen!
27 year old lover of traveling, party, and slaying exotic women!
I am planning a 2 week stay in Jakarta after my 2 month Philippines trip. Seems kinda daunting in the planning phase with just how big Jakarta is and all the different nightlife spots to choice from.
The first order of business is locking down the main spots I want to go to at night.
I like to go to places that play hiphop / top40 with a large amount of easy women where I can get my dance on and pull a girl back to my hotel.
That is just my ideal place. I go where ever the pussy is at the end of the day. So far here is a list I compiled of potential places of interest.
Seems like Bats is pretty ideal. What do you guys recommend?
Also, with such a long trip I will be on a budget so I need to find the cheapest acceptable lodging possible. My budget for lodging is 20-30usd a night. Seems Jakarta is rather expensive and finding a clean, basic room with a / see and hot water is problematic. From a brief search I compiled this info.
I need to locate a cheap place that is close to where I will be going at night. Also need to be close to malls to meet girls during the day.
Sorry for the long post! Any and all advice & recommendations will be much appreciated. Expect a nice trip report and a video for repayment!I note that you're 27, may I assume that you're good looking? MS is right, you'll have to be someone very attractive to the girls to pull one back to a Jalan Jaksa lodging. The chances of pulling a "civilian" in CJs is very slim. I do know a few who do go there but they're not easy to get. There's a higher chance in BATS but still, the chances are they are working girls who will ask for at least twice (probably more) the cost of your accommodation budget. Dragonfly, Immigrant, X2, Red Square are all potentials but not easy - especially when they find out where you're staying. Dragonfly also has something of a dress policy. Take note that there is also P4P available (very pricey) in these places albeit less obviously so, and the price you're going to pay in drinks in any of the aforementioned places will easily outstrip your accommodation budget by the time you even feel the slightest buzz. To me, your best bet is to hit the bars of Kemang (like 999) and target the student and young affluent crowd. Drinks are much cheaper and you'll be more of a novelty. The main issue will be that quite a lot of the crowd have their own cliques which you'll need to break into. The potential is there though and if I was your age, that's where I'd be. Your biggest barrier will be your accommodation however - do try and do something about that. Good luck mate.
MD II
Master Diver II
08-01-13, 05:50
No Master Diver (you are a real master) the quality of girls you had was much higher then what I ever had, and I was already in Jakarta since I was 20 years of age.
This is my honest experience in Jakarta in 20 years I am humble before you and I bow deep, very deep.I've been in and about Jakarta since 2003 and started to move into the dating market around 2005. I've been almost fully in the dating market since 2008 (barring a few occurrences when my other brain was doing the thinking). I've not done anything extraordinary, I'm sure many others have had similar experiences. Maybe we'll catch up for a drink one of these days and have a chat and reminisce.
I limit my mongering to girls who are rocket scientists.ROFLMFAO.
I myself have had around 50 girls in Jakarta in the last 2 years and more than 90% of them were civilian, including doctors, bankers, bank clerks, businesswomen, executive secretaries, finance chief, models, designers, teachers at international schools, office girls, students, housewives. 80% were Chinese. 20% were still virgin and could only accept anything else beside FS. 80% of them were good looking or at least above average, including some beautiful ones. The eldest was perhaps a 41 year old businesswoman while the youngest 20 year old first year student.
So I would think it really depends on individuals and their types.I have to agree with this albeit I haven't found quite as many virgins (a total of five and I can guarantee that two of those aren't virgins anymore) and I would say in my case the mix is maybe 25% Chinese and the rest either mixed or Malay. I have had some stunners but my current preference is for the "attractive girl next door" which I have to say seems to have yielded the most fun by far. I have almost fallen in love a couple of times, and it's still painful when some of the girls move on and get married. Yes I've been warned by JAD many a time, but it's difficult to advise an addict.
MD II
I note that you're 27, may I assume that you're good looking? MS is right, you'll have to be someone very attractive to the girls to pull one back to a Jalan Jaksa lodging. The chances of pulling a "civilian" in CJs is very slim. I do know a few who do go there but they're not easy to get. There's a higher chance in BATS but still, the chances are they are working girls who will ask for at least twice (probably more) the cost of your accommodation budget. Dragonfly, Immigrant, X2, Red Square are all potentials but not easy. Especially when they find out where you're staying. Dragonfly also has something of a dress policy. Take note that there is also P4P available (very pricey) in these places albeit less obviously so, and the price you're going to pay in drinks in any of the aforementioned places will easily outstrip your accommodation budget by the time you even feel the slightest buzz. To me, your best bet is to hit the bars of Kemang (like 999) and target the student and young affluent crowd. Drinks are much cheaper and you'll be more of a novelty. The main issue will be that quite a lot of the crowd have their own cliques which you'll need to break into. The potential is there though and if I was your age, that's where I'd be. Your biggest barrier will be your accommodation however. Do try and do something about that. Good luck mate.
MD IIHow much is entrance and a price of a local beer at the main places people go to? (X2, Bats, Redsquare etc).
Seems I will have to smart with my nights out to avoided over spending. Will only have a budget of 40 dollars a day for food / fun.
Good intel on Kemang. Wonder if there is any dance clubs there playing top40.
I just made a map of all the nightlife areas and it appears Plaza Indonesia is the central most point.
Appears the most northern venue of note is Stadium and the most southern venue of note is Club 999.
How long and pricey of a trek is it from Plaza Indonesia area to the above clubs?
SilverBird
08-01-13, 13:18
Hearing a story that Jokowi (mayor of Jakarta) is looking to ban working girls from top hotels in the city.
Does that mean that CJ's, Bats, etc will soon be empty?
Master Diver II
08-01-13, 17:07
I just made a map of all the nightlife areas and it appears Plaza Indonesia is the central most point.
Appears the most northern venue of note is Stadium and the most southern venue of note is Club 999.
How long and pricey of a trek is it from Plaza Indonesia area to the above clubs?I did look on Agoda as a matter of curiosity and found a few acceptable places to stay in the USD30-40 price range (my search was for the start of September) so you might be able to fit it into your budget. If your target is clearly on pick ups, may I suggest you that you really work out your logistics and locate yourself to minimise your travel costs. If you're looking top40, I wouldn't have thought that Stadium is the place to go to. Stick with the Kemang clubs and find a kost type of hotel / residence nearby. There's plenty of food in Kemang and the only downside is that you're a distance away from the shopping malls like Grand Indonesia / Plaza Indonesia / Pacific Place. There are still a few malls within reach to arrange your rendezvous with various girls so you're still good. You need to research the clubs in the area and target accordingly. I don't think that BATS / X2 / Red square will be on your radar unless you're able to boost your budget.
My advice is to hit the dating sites and line them up to meet for coffee / lunch / tea and work it from there. Budget to go to clubs maybe two/three nights a week and relax with the girls on the other nights. Then you'll stay well within your financial limits. The difference between the price of drinks in a nice club in Kemang and somewhere like CJs / BATS is huge (I remember a bottle costing something like half the price you'd pay in CJs / BATS). If you find the right club, buy a bottle of vodka / whisky (or whatever) and go easy. That bottle will buy you a few free entrances to the club. You'll just have to buy the mixers after you get in. Be wary that you might get stuck buying a long Island Iced Tea sooner or later. It's almost inevitable. I've been busy dating rather than clubbing of late (I'm getting a bit too old to be out clubbing) ; I'm more interested in the bedroom activities than the clubbing, but the occasional outing can be fun enough. I hope that that helps with your budget and enjoyment.
Good luck with your research.
MD II
I did look on Agoda as a matter of curiosity and found a few acceptable places to stay in the USD30-40 price range (my search was for the start of September) so you might be able to fit it into your budget. If your target is clearly on pick ups, may I suggest you that you really work out your logistics and locate yourself to minimise your travel costs. If you're looking top40, I wouldn't have thought that Stadium is the place to go to. Stick with the Kemang clubs and find a kost type of hotel / residence nearby. There's plenty of food in Kemang and the only downside is that you're a distance away from the shopping malls like Grand Indonesia / Plaza Indonesia / Pacific Place. There are still a few malls within reach to arrange your rendezvous with various girls so you're still good. You need to research the clubs in the area and target accordingly. I don't think that BATS / X2 / Red square will be on your radar unless you're able to boost your budget...How much would a taxi from Plaza Indonesia to Stadium and from Plaza Indonesia to Kemang cost? Also how many minutes. 30-40?
I plan to set up at least 1 date a day through online. I won't be buying any bottles. I just stick to cheap domestic beer.
Top Gun and Red Square look fun. CJ's and BATs seems like a place to go any see if I can get a hot girl to take a night off from work LOL Also have to check out Immigrant, X2, and the Stadium at least once. Along with the scene at Jl Jaksa.
I should have extra funds to break out if need be, but def looking to keep things within a 70-80 a day budget.
I had to break down all the main neighborhoods of Jakarta to get a better feel for the city.
Jakarta Neighborhood Guide.
North / Kota. Ancol, Glodok, Mengga Dua, Menga Basar, Gajah Mada, Roxy, Pasar Baru, Monas, Grogol, Kemayoran.
Central. Thamrin, Menteng, Senayan, Sudirman, Kuningan, Tebet.
South. Blok M, Mampang, Kemang, Pasar Minggu.
With the night life concentrating in Glodok, Pasar Baru, & Gajah Mada in the North. Thamrin, Senayan, & Sudirman in the Center. Blok M & Kemang in the South.
I found 2 really cheap hotels in the North for around like 18 USD pre tax / fees (Wow Hotel & City Icon). Then there are a lot of 25-30 USD hotels pre tax / fees around the Center.
So the question now is go for the really cheap places in the North or the moderately cheap place in the Center.
I read how you can take Transjakarta buses that run from along the main road ie can go from Plaza Indonesia to Kota for very cheap and it has its own dedicated lane to avoid traffic.
http://www.jakarta100bars.com/2007/11/best-transportation-means-in-jakarta.html
So from a cost point of view might be better to stay in the north and use cheap day transportation to get to the Center / South.
Does that type of transport run 24/7?
Still on the fence as of the angle to play here.
FreebieFan
08-02-13, 06:17
Followed by.
Also, with such a long trip I will be on a budget so I need to find the cheapest acceptable lodging possible. My budget for lodging is 20-30usd a night. Seems Jakarta is rather expensive and finding a clean, basic room with a / see and hot water is problematic.Mate, the birds in places like Dragonfly spend more on one drink than you will be paying for a night's accommodation. If you ask them nicely though they might let you sleep in their servants' quarters along with their drivers and gardeners, probably nicer than the flop-houses you're intending to stay at.[/QUOTE]Nice reply to the boy. Hes been all over the Philippines boards recently too. Someone smartly suggested he stay home, get a job, and come back when hes got some more $$.
Anyways he seems to think hes gods gift, and is happy to advise that he generoulsy donates up to US$5 for taxi fare when he kicks them out. I think he doesn't really have any idea that Asia isn't a backwater jungle but that we have international cities with international pricing.
Then again, its always good to have an ideal. But I think hes in for a big dissapointment.
Imagine having to nurse that one drink all night. But smiling happily at every girl. Just not being able to get her a drink.
Mate, the birds in places like Dragonfly spend more on one drink than you will be paying for a night's accommodation. If you ask them nicely though they might let you sleep in their servants' quarters along with their drivers and gardeners, probably nicer than the flop-houses you're intending to stay at.Nice reply to the boy. Hes been all over the Philippines boards recently too. Someone smartly suggested he stay home, get a job, and come back when hes got some more $$.
Anyways he seems to think hes gods gift, and is happy to advise that he generoulsy donates up to US$5 for taxi fare when he kicks them out. I think he doesn't really have any idea that Asia isn't a backwater jungle but that we have international cities with international pricing.
Then again, its always good to have an ideal. But I think hes in for a big dissapointment.
Imagine having to nurse that one drink all night. But smiling happily at every girl. Just not being able to get her a drink.[/QUOTE]Same story every trip. Guys tell me I'm being to cheap, girls this and that, and I will be disappointed or in for a surprise.
Well, after 4years and around 10 countries later (all on a shoe string budget) I am still waiting on the above to happen. Haven't had one trip where I didn't have fun and bang girls.
I appreciated your concern tho old sport.
Hung Man 1808
08-02-13, 10:49
Hearing a story that Jokowi (mayor of Jakarta) is looking to ban working girls from top hotels in the city.
Does that mean that CJ's, Bats, etc will soon be empty?LOL.
Will they be issuing "Tidak Ayam" cards for entry for the good girls?
Actually she was very cute, and probably one of the prettiest girls I ever had in Jakarta, same goes for the girl that was on course in Bandung. Both of them I had within 24 hours and they are both in terms of sexyness and looks in the top 10 of girls I had in Jakarta. The girl I met in Gambir, she told me she was a DJ in some new place in Bandung but I never got to figure out where the place was and I long since forgot the name of the place. She also was still a student (so I indeed got a student too)
So luckily it was no fantasy, but most of the girls I have gotten in the many years I stayed in Indonesia were just very average looking. When I was really young (just under 20 years of age) I came to Jakarta because my father with whom I was staying got a job there, at the time I studied in Holland and I could continue the study (albeit in a different fashion) at one of the universities in Jakarta where I graduated one year later. It took me some time to adapt and get used to the country but in no time I was able to speak Indonesian.
At the time I was studying I was very young and I did not really appreciate the beauty of Indonesian females, I actually got a bule girlfriend when I was stuyding in Jakarta and we were together for about 2 years, so in my first 2 years in Jakarta I did not look for nor sleep with any Indonesian girls.
We both started to work for the same company after we finished (her dad's company actually)
Maybe if I had done things differently and had been looking for Indonesian girls from the start things would have gone totally different, but for some reason it went past me. WE however did go to Tanamour and JJ's later on occasion and of course I noticed what was going on between the bule guys and Indonesian girls there, but I knew the score (most of it was about money because I was not that naive). In retrorespect (when I try to get back the feeling I had in those days) I must have been happy with her so I think I did the right thing.
When we broke up I was miserable for a while and after that I moved to Bandung for a year. There I got my first taste of Indonesian girls, but again I was a kind of faithful type. After having a few hookers in North Sea (it was with the North Sea girls that I lost my virginity with Indonesian girls) I found a (quite beautiful and sexy actually) Sundanese girl with whom I stayed for almost the whole year I was in Bandung. I was very poor at that time because I had lost my job (and was without income) and staying in the grottiest and dirtiest losmen one can imagine. But she sticked with me even when (after about 6 months in bandung) my money was finished. I did work in Bandung but the salary was too low to make ends meet (the money from my salary was finished in a week).
That's also why I maybe only had 150 or at the most 200 girls in 20 years, which boils down to on average less then one girl per month because most of the time I was having a girlfriend and I seem to be very faithfull if I have one. The first 15 years in Jakarta and Indonesia I might only have had 40 girls or so!
Only the last couple of years (and during a few periods when I was young and single) I would take some girls sometimes. I only started to use dating sites about 5 or so years ago and since then I have started to change girls more often.
I've never been good at picking up girls in malls. Up until recently I might have had only 2 pickups in malls, but the last couple of months I managed to get 3 girls from a mall, but I am still very bad at picking up girls in malls, when they smile at me (and look back when they passed me indicating they are really interested) I don't react and walk back and start a conversation but I just walk on. It's horrible I know but that's me. I am also a kinda shy guy mostly. Sometimes I feel very comfortable (for instance when I was in Gambir going to meet the girl in Bandung) then I am able to start talking to girls and be funny and witty and yeah then I can pull quite easily but these occasions are quite rare actually, within no time (maybe a week or 2 weeks something happens) and I lose confidence again.
In hindsight, when I was young, especially the first 2 years in Jakarta I of course got to know many (local) girls and women from the higher echelons of the (in the Suharto era) society of Jakarta. I had a bule girlfriend but we got to know many (indonesian and Chinese-Indonesian) students and they introduced me to their circle of friends and contacts. (we stayed in touch with many of them after graduation) When I had wanted it in those days I could have bedded many rich (from their parents) and beautiful Chinese indo girls and some models and whatnot, and I knew many were interested in me. But I just was not into them really for some reason and I don't know why, maybe I was scared or just too much in love with my girlfriend (who was always guarding me like a hawk by the way) because she knew what was going on better then I did.
Anyway now I am 40 and somehow the past always comes back to haunt me, it is like I want to make up for all the time I missed (the best years where I could have had the best girls because I was young and because I could easily get in touch with them because of my circle of friends) but it is not possible anymore, I don't have the guts nor the youth to pull the women I actually want to pull.
Acutally the last 4 weeks I had only one girl because I have a new girlfriend again since about one monthBro,
Thank you for your sharing.
LOL.
Will they be issuing "Tidak Ayam" cards for entry for the good girls?The Ritz Carlton did a good job keeping the ayam out. That's why their night club went bankrupt.
I've been in and about Jakarta since 2003 and started to move into the dating market around 2005. I've been almost fully in the dating market since 2008 (barring a few occurrences when my other brain was doing the thinking). I've not done anything extraordinary, I'm sure many others have had similar experiences. Maybe we'll catch up for a drink one of these days and have a chat and reminisce.
MD III would not mind but this board does not let people exchange contact info.
The Ritz Carlton did a good job keeping the ayam out. That's why their night club went bankrupt.LOL, the most boring club in Jakarta, although the former No Name Club in the Marriott ran it close but at least they let working girls in.
Mighty Spearsman
08-03-13, 16:06
I would not mind but this board does not let people exchange contact info.Actually this board does allow exchange of contact info. Use the PM (private messages) function!
I've met several other Senior Members for a drink and/or Starbucks coffee over the last 10 years by using this feature.
LOL, the most boring club in JakartaI thought the Ritz was the best club in Jakarta. Nicest venue and the best bands. The only problem with it was there were not a bunch of hot prostitutes in it like BATS or CJs.
Hi,
Planning a trip to Jakarta from 9-11 August. As this period is right after Ramadan. 8th being the Eid holiday, I wanted to know if I will be walking into a ghost town? Will my regular hanuts, places like Malio and Maliboro be open and will the girls be around or with family in holiday season?
I was last in town in May, notices that the girls at Malio don't strip nakes on the podium anymore, have they stopped doing this?
Thanks. And if anyone wants to join me for a drink, please shout.
Master Diver II
08-03-13, 18:25
How much would a taxi from Plaza Indonesia to Stadium and from Plaza Indonesia to Kemang cost? Also how many minutes. 30-40?
I plan to set up at least 1 date a day through online. I won't be buying any bottles. I just stick to cheap domestic beer.
Top Gun and Red Square look fun. CJ's and BATs seems like a place to go any see if I can get a hot girl to take a night off from work LOL Also have to check out Immigrant, X2, and the Stadium at least once. Along with the scene at Jl Jaksa.
I should have extra funds to break out if need be, but def looking to keep things within a 70-80 a day budget.Looking for a freebie in Top Gun? Good luck mate. CJs and BATs? I've managed it a couple of times but more by luck than anything else.
MD II
WestCoast1
08-03-13, 18:46
How much would a taxi from Plaza Indonesia to Stadium and from Plaza Indonesia to Kemang cost? Also how many minutes. 30-40?Depends on the time of day. Traffic in Jakarta is similar to Manila. After 10pm you can buzz around town with much less traffic. Still, even in the late evening, with traffic zipping right along, a taxi might take 30 minutes to go from south (Block M) to north (Manga Besar). The bus, even if still running, will take much longer, as it makes multiple stops. Taking the bus during the day might be faster, but my experiences on the busses is that the aircon is usually weak, and they can be very crowded (unlike Manila jeeps, never worried about pickpockets). While it might be faster to take the bus during the day (30 minutes north-south, vs 45 minutes taxi) , I'm not sure its worth parboiling yourself in the bus, as opposed to a more secure taxi with aircon.
MD, Spear?
Hi,
Planning a trip to Jakarta from 9-11 August. As this period is right after Ramadan. 8th being the Eid holiday, I wanted to know if I will be walking into a ghost town?You will be walking into a ghost town, the only thing missing will be the tumbleweeds blowing across Jalan Thamrin. If you want to enjoy the novel experience of driving around Jakarta with zero traffic then you'll have fun.
As to anything else, well I suggest you buy a few beers from any Indomaret you find open and take them back to your hotel room and surf for porn on your laptop (if the ISPs aren't all blocked). You have picked the absolute worst days of the year to visit Jakarta for sex. Change the dates now, even if you have to pay extra.
I thought the Ritz was the best club in Jakarta. Nicest venue and the best bands. The only problem with it was there were not a bunch of hot prostitutes in it like BATS or CJs.You and I have different priorities when it comes to nightclubs in Jakarta. The three most important factors for me deciding on which club I want to drink over-priced booze in are the quality of girls available, the quality of girls available and the quality of girls available. Once those three issues are sorted I'll worry about the decor or how good the glorified karaoke singers are on stage.
Looking for a freebie in Top Gun? Good luck mate. CJs and BATs? I've managed it a couple of times but more by luck than anything else.
MD III am thinking being a fit 27 year old with charm will work in my favor.
We will see!
Depends on the time of day. Traffic in Jakarta is similar to Manila. After 10pm you can buzz around town with much less traffic. Still, even in the late evening, with traffic zipping right along, a taxi might take 30 minutes to go from south (Block M) to north (Manga Besar). The bus, even if still running, will take much longer, as it makes multiple stops. Taking the bus during the day might be faster, but my experiences on the busses is that the aircon is usually weak, and they can be very crowded (unlike Manila jeeps, never worried about pickpockets). While it might be faster to take the bus during the day (30 minutes north-south, vs 45 minutes taxi) , I'm not sure its worth parboiling yourself in the bus, as opposed to a more secure taxi with aircon.
MD, Spear?So from Blok M to the North during the day will take roughly 45 minutes in a taxi and 30 on the bus?
I imagine the bus to be really cheap.
How much will a taxi cost from the South to the North?
Some girl told me it took 1.5 hours to go from South to North. I thought that sounded kinda crazy.
Continuation of Day 3 report #7507.
I hear the shrill sound of phones ringing. Within seconds my cellphone also starts to vibrate. Oh! Oh! This can't be good.
I untangle myself from Lia and Diah (refer Day 3 Midday report #7507) to answer the phones. Two of my clients (client #2 and client #3. Refer Day 1 report # 7381) are calling simultaneously in high dudgeon. The deal has hit a major roadblock, possibly even a deal breaker.
We go over the issue in a hastily arranged conference call. At length I am able to convince them that all is not lost; both clients commit to sending me a marked up version of the counterparty's deed if I can draft a palatable alternative. Not a five minute job!
I hang up and look at the two sexy little things sprawled out on my sofa. They have both been watching me intently with childlike wonder throughout the call. Perhaps intrigued by the cut and thrust of a business discussion. I detect a sense of awe in their voices when they ask me "Are you the big boss?"
I explain to them using the translator app that we have to break up our little soirée (yes, I have a heart of stone). The call and the posibility of losing my hefty success fee have in any case drastically reduced my ardour. The girls are surprisingly very mature about it and ask me whether I would like for them to come back tomorrow (Sunday) and spend the day with me."We can maybe bring our bikinis and go to the pool?" types Lia; Diah eagerly suggsts "And do iMovies!"
We set up the date for Sunday. And when I stretch out my arms to hug them, they both rush in at the same time. Embracing them, I DFK each girl while the other nestles her face kissing my neck and chest.
My hands slide down their waist to cup their asscheeks, and fondle and squeeze them. My fingers traverse the inviting valley that separates those delectable mounds. Marvelling at the uniqueness of each girl's tight crevice, I can't help myself having evil thoughts. Simultaneously I feel the tiny hands of both girls reach down to size up the length and girth of my swollen member.
We break off laughing as we realise without a word being spoken that we've all had the same wicked thought at exactly the same time! I reluctantly escort them down to the lobby and arrange with my company driver to drop them off. Outside the Jakarta skies are mourning my hideous fortune!
Fortified by shots of whisky, I work feverishly. It's late night by the time I send out the new draft. When I get the email saying "Hey we are good to go with this. Can we call you, your time Tuesday." I snap shut my laptop. Enough work for the day!
I pour myself another shot of Johnnie Walker noticing how much of the bottle has gone down in just the last few hours. Drink in hand I prowl the suite and look out of the picture windows. The heavy rain has ceased but it is still drizzling, and way down below traffic is still heavy.
I have a nice buzz from the whisky and don't feel like going out but still need something to unwind. I call to arrange an in room massage.
By the time I shower and change into my robes, the suite bell chimes.
The slim girl standing at the door is carrying a small cane basket full of massage accoutrements. She looks young for her age (22 they had said over the phone). She is in a long sleeved white shirt sporting silver buttons worn over black leggings, channeling a younger version of Uma in Pulp Fiction.
She smiles brightly as she sees me but walks shyly past me through the living room to the bedroom. Walking behind her, I watch the sway of her apple bottom. Biggish for a slim girl.
She prepares the bed for the massage before reaching to untie my bathrobe sash. I hold her hands by the wrist and ask "aren't you going to undress too?"
She smiles and obediantly proceeds to unbutton her shirt. She is wearing a short white camisole top under but no bra. Her dark nipples. The size of a largish coin each. Are clearly visible under the flimsy fabric. As she pulls down her tights her round bottom jiggles inside a pair of salmon-peach-pink coloured knickers.
She walks over to the wardrobe and neatly places the discarded clothes. I see that her panty has ridden up her ass crack. She climbs on to the bed and sits on her haunches with her legs folded under. Her midriff is flat and taut. She again reaches for the sash of my robe to untie it. I notice her frequent, furtive glances at my groin.
I let the robe slip off my shoulders to the floor and stand naked in front of her. Her eyes involuntarily dart again to my groin where there is an early sign of a coltish erection. When she realises that I had caught her stealing glances at my waxed body she feigns to fan herself with the fingers of her right hand held together and laughs to hide her evident embarrassment.
I stretch out and lay down on my front. She pours oil on to my back and starts to massage me. I am surprised at the strength behind her slight frame. Her massage skill quickly relaxes me.
Her name is Michelle she says. She comes from a large family. Her mother is divorced, she is the third born and has to work to look after herself and her younger siblings. Both her elder sisters are married. She however, is not married. She had the same boyfriend since she was 15 and thought he was going to marry her. But late last year she found out he was cheating on her with another girl, so she broke off with him.
"Don't you have a boyfriend now?"
"Noooo!" She says vehemently."I don't want any more headaches!"
"Are you married?" She asks me in return.
I say I am not; with evident skepticism she leans forward to pick up my left hand and to closely scrutinise the ring finger for any tell tale signs of a wedding band.
By now she's sitting on my butt with her smooth thighs on either side of me. I feel the heat of her crotch through her thin knickers as it rubs up against my ass. The rubbing is rhythmical and prolonged, I begin to wonder whether it is for my benefit or hers.
"You have girlfriend in Indonesia?" She asks me panting slightly from her exertions. I explain that this is my first visit and only my third day in Jakarta."So I haven't had anytime for a girlfriend!"
"Bullshit" She says, momentarily pausing her pussy rubbing of my ass "when I came to your room, I smell lot of perfume!"
"Oh! That! That's from two girls I met at the mall" I say."They only came because they wanted to see my suite!"
"Aha," she stretches the last syllable. There's evident distrust in her voice.
My ipad with photos of Lia and Diah is lying next to me. Michelle stretches forward almost lying full stretch on my back to look at these photos with curiosity. I feel her tits pressing on my back. She flicks through the photos, her breath hot on my neck and cheek. She exclaims "They are very beautiful!"
She then lifts off my back, smacks my ass hard and says "Turn over please!"
I turn over, my cock slightly swollen but still not fully erect. This time she does not attempt to hide her ogling. Rubbing my thighs and staring at my dick she says "Hello! Sexy Boy!" And laughs.
"In Jakarta don't you greet your friends with a kiss?" I ask.
She laughs and stretches herself between my outstretched legs, holding my dick in her right hand in front of her mouth, like a microphone.
"You want me to kiss him? Like this?" She forms an O with her lips and plants a noisy kiss on the purple crown, letting her lips linger for awhile as if glued before slowly opening her lips to let her mouth swallow the whole head. Inside the mouth her tongue licks the crown in quick strokes, like a thirsty cat lapping up milk fom a bowl.
She starts to suck rhythmically, using a lot of saliva to wet the shaft. Her mouth is velvety soft. Her BJ technique is very Japanese, wet with lots of moans, and steady eye contact.
In between each suck she tries to negotiate but I am in no mood for that. It has been a long day and the last thing I want is a long drawn out negotiation session with a 20 some thing girl who has got my dick in her mouth for much of the time. Anyway, what would this negotiaton save me in the end? Perhaps the price of a mediocre bottle of wine in a restaurant back home. Fuck that! So I indulge her negotiation just long enough for her to realise that I am not naive but generous.
With the negotiations happily concluded, she spits on the crown to noisily resume her sucking while her hand strokes the slippery shaft. For the next 10 minutes or so, I let her lick and suck to her heart's content. She doesn't neglect the balls, taking each one in turn into her mouth before reaching down with her tongue to also explore my ass crack.
Once I have a raging hardon thanks to her ministrations, she sits up straddling my thighs,
Turning 180 degrees, into a 69 position.
Her ass is thrust up, with her pink panties scrunched up between her round cheeks. I squeeze the proffered cheeks before sliding the panties to one side to reveal her tiny asshole and shaven pussy. She continues to suck me but her moans grow louder as my tongue gets to work. Soon she is wet enough for me insert my fingers into both holes and finger fuck them. Her pussy is just as tight as her asshole for someone who does this for a living.
It is still drizzling outside and I can see the reflections of multi coloured, blinking lights on the picture windows. I imagine the gridlocked Jakarta traffic down below is thinning by now. And I set about getting to know Michelle by all three of her mouths.
You will be walking into a ghost town, the only thing missing will be the tumbleweeds blowing across Jalan Thamrin. If you want to enjoy the novel experience of driving around Jakarta with zero traffic then you'll have fun.
As to anything else, well I suggest you buy a few beers from any Indomaret you find open and take them back to your hotel room and surf for porn on your laptop (if the ISPs aren't all blocked). You have picked the absolute worst days of the year to visit Jakarta for sex. Change the dates now, even if you have to pay extra.Thanks for that advice. How long after the holidays shall I leave it. Nothing booked yet, perhaps 14- 16th will be back to normal?
Mighty Spearsman
08-04-13, 16:17
So from Blok M to the North during the day will take roughly 45 minutes in a taxi and 30 on the bus?
I imagine the bus to be really cheap.
How much will a taxi cost from the South to the North?
Some girl told me it took 1. 5 hours to go from South to North. I thought that sounded kinda crazy.No. 1.5 hours is not crazy, could be even longer depending on what time of day you are travelling.
The TransJakarta bus costs around 50 cents US but only runs until around 10 pm.
The cost of a taxi depends on both the distance and the time that you are physically inside the cab, similar to most cities around the world.
Since you're on a tight budget, either take the bus or else consider riding on an "ojek" which is a motorcycle taxi. However, you need to negotiate the price up front, and safety could be an issue.
Good luck! I am respectfully looking forward to your field reports; like many other senior members, I'm curious as to how well you make out on your proposed budget.
Mighty Spearsman
08-04-13, 16:22
You will be walking into a ghost town, the only thing missing will be the tumbleweeds blowing across Jalan Thamrin. If you want to enjoy the novel experience of driving around Jakarta with zero traffic then you'll have fun.
As to anything else, well I suggest you buy a few beers from any Indomaret you find open and take them back to your hotel room and surf for porn on your laptop (if the ISPs aren't all blocked). You have picked the absolute worst days of the year to visit Jakarta for sex. Change the dates now, even if you have to pay extra.If you can't change the dates, consider going to Bali! The air fare is not that much, although the hotels may be fairly full from the other people who have fled Jakarta for the holiday.
Alpha Cue:
Great Report! You're a great writer. I like the narrative mixing the business deal with the two visitors and the massage girl. It reads like a novel.
Canyon
Master Diver II
08-05-13, 04:11
depends on the time of day. traffic in jakarta is similar to manila. after 10pm you can buzz around town with much less traffic. still, even in the late evening, with traffic zipping right along, a taxi might take 30 minutes to go from south (block m) to north (manga besar). the bus, even if still running, will take much longer, as it makes multiple stops. taking the bus during the day might be faster, but my experiences on the busses is that the aircon is usually weak, and they can be very crowded (unlike manila jeeps, never worried about pickpockets). while it might be faster to take the bus during the day (30 minutes north-south, vs 45 minutes taxi) , i'm not sure its worth parboiling yourself in the bus, as opposed to a more secure taxi with aircon.
md, spear?no guarantees on the length of time you might have to spend in a taxi mate. jakarta is jakarta. i've spent three and a half hours in a vehicle from pasaraya blok m to semanggi because of heavy rain and hence some flooding. it all depends on the time of day and the weather. that doesn't take into account the potential protest/demo about something or another. i would however normally budget an hour let's say from plaza indonesia to kemang - but not during rush hour (or is that hours?). and be grateful if it takes less time. i am definitely a fan of being in an aircon taxi (even if i always have to ask them to increase the fan speed) rather than the bus, but that might affect the budget somewhat.
md ii
i have been meeting up with a chat acquaintance while i am in jakarta but i don't think i want to go there, so when she goes home. i go out. i don't mind it, a daytime companion, i can do touristy things with. nighttime is my own.
i got here saturday night, late, very late for my timezone and went directly to top gun. it was good but i was so tired that i am glad i didn't partake. i don't remember the drive home because i fell asleep so i would have been pretty useless in any case.
spent the day at jakara bay sunday, had lunch and a few beers. went to jalan jaksa to have a beer, and totally dry. can't even buy a beer from circle k. bugger. went back to the room and opened the cask of chardonnay i had bought with me and enjoyed the afternoon with my friend in a totally non sexual way. she left. i went to bed and had a nap.
i set my alarm for midnight and was duly woken at this time. caught a cab to blok m with the driver achieving speeds of 130 kph on the motorway and went directly to top gun. i know that there has been some recent discussion about the beauty of the girls in indonesia. my bias is that i think asian girls (in general) look beautiful. so for me is a 10, may very well a 7 for someone else. i like it like this, i get more 10s than others, lol.
i was feeling great. i had just had 3 hours sleep, not drunk and closing time was fast approaching. one girl rather forcefully introduced herself to me and wanted to invite her friends over. i had a closer look at her and decided that she would do, bought her some drinks (man, some of these muslim chicks can put it away). declined to buy her friends drinks.
my error was setting the alarm for 12:00. top gun shuts at 1:30 am so i didn't really have enough time to fully appreciate myself. i have set my alarm for 11:00 malam ini.
the interesting thing about the girl last night was i asked her how much, and expected to hear some astronomical figure and she said 500k. i sort of looked at her in disbelief (i am far from trim, fit and young) and i said "long time", she said yes, so i am ok, cool lets do this. caught the taxi to the hotel, which was surprisingly expensive despite using the meter. she had her period, so i assume this was why she had priced herself so low, but she was a trooper and took everything i gave her and was very girlfriendly about it. i have had better sex and the blowjob as nothing to write home about, but she did try. i did her 3 times during the night and morning and i gave her the 500k and i though, this is where things are going to go bad. i must have misheard and it will be 5 juta. but i gave her the $500k and she took it and said terima kasih. we went to breakfast, she came back to the room and played with my ipad, she cuddled and kissed me. i asked for blowjob, she refused ("finished").
she then said she had to go, packed up and was ready to leave and she didn't mention taxi money or a tip or anything. so i had to tip her, i had had a super beautiful, lithe young thing (27) for the night. to round up 500k for the night + tip. the fat street girls were asking for more than that the night before for short time. colour me surprised, dan bahagia.
no guarantees on the length of time you might have to spend in a taxi mate. jakarta is jakarta. i've spent three and a half hours in a vehicle from pasaraya blok m to semanggi because of heavy rain and hence some flooding. it all depends on the time of day and the weather. that doesn't take into account the potential protest / demo about something or another. i would however normally budget an hour let's say from plaza indonesia to kemang. but not during rush hour (or is that hours?). and be grateful if it takes less time. i am definitely a fan of being in an aircon taxi (even if i always have to ask them to increase the fan speed) rather than the bus, but that might affect the budget somewhat.
md iiyou can take ojek, and it will cut your travel time more than 50 pct. i have taken taxi for long time (always during the first 2 years in jakarta) , but realized ojek even with different comfort are as good and very efficient, but safety risk and pollution impact are more severe. find your own ojek driver in front of your hotel and pay him a little extra and make him your regular driver. then he will get you safe and fast to all places. i pay the same as for taxi, even i know locals pay lesser.
enjoy
I have always been a tits lover (not big) , hard and full, and this weekend I was over-welcomed by a good looking 30 year girl in bar, and I took her home. Great tits to hold in hand. I felt they were normal, but later she told me she had operation as her tits before were not even and not good looking. Very good implants and difficult to see operation (a small scar inside the arm). After feeling for long time (2nd day) I could feel and see it. I have no picture of her, but I have from a Philippino, I meet last year. Also that girl I thought had normal tits, but now I think they are implants?
Clear Water
08-06-13, 07:14
I have been meeting up with a chat acquaintance while I am in Jakarta but I don't think I want to go there, so when she goes home. I go out. I don't mind it, a daytime companion, I can do touristy things with. Nighttime is my own.
I got here Saturday night, late, very late for my timezone and went directly to Top Gun. It was good but I was so tired that I am glad I didn't partake. I don't remember the drive home because I fell asleep so I would have been pretty useless in any case.
Spent the day at Jakara bay Sunday, had lunch and a few beers. Went to Jalan Jaksa to have a beer, and totally dry. Can't even buy a beer from Circle K. Bugger. Went back to the room and opened the cask of Chardonnay I had bought with me and enjoyed the afternoon with my friend in a totally non sexual way. She left. I went to bed and had a nap...Yes approaching Idul Fitri this week was offered ST 300 and LT 500 at D's.
BlokM closed from This Wed 7th Aug so the girls are making the most of it.
Clear Water
08-06-13, 07:51
I have been meeting up with a chat acquaintance while I am in Jakarta but I don't think I want to go there, so when she goes home. I go out. I don't mind it, a daytime companion, I can do touristy things with. Nighttime is my own.
I got here Saturday night, late, very late for my timezone and went directly to Top Gun. It was good but I was so tired that I am glad I didn't partake. I don't remember the drive home because I fell asleep so I would have been pretty useless in any case.
Spent the day at Jakara bay Sunday, had lunch and a few beers. Went to Jalan Jaksa to have a beer, and totally dry. Can't even buy a beer from Circle K. Bugger. Went back to the room and opened the cask of Chardonnay I had bought with me and enjoyed the afternoon with my friend in a totally non sexual way. She left. I went to bed and had a nap...Yes approaching Idul Fitri this week was offered ST 300 and LT 500 at D's.
BlokM closed from This Wed 7th Aug so the girls are making the most of it.
Ever hear of the story about the politician campaigning for votes in a remote part of Kalimantan?
He tells the locals, mostly farmers that he's going to give them a new school, they cry out 'Magumbu! ', he promises them a new hospital, 'Magumbu! ' they shout, on a roll he promises them new roads and a new bridge 'Magumbu! Magumbu! ' they cry out.
Pleased with his reception he asks the headman to show him around the place and he is shown the main dairy field full of cattle grazing and he goes in to walk around, 'careful you don't stand in the magumbu, ' says the head man.
Reading Alpha Cue's tales of Jakarta I can only mutter 'magumbu! '
Come on, a hotel masseuse who strips off without question or negotiation immediately she enters the room? Yeah right. And why would she give a toss whether her client was married or not?
Most of all why would a hotshot businessman (who wows teenage hookers from Kota with his tough, no-nonsense negotiating skills) take photos with such a crappy camera? It's not an I-Pad, it seems to be some knock-off Chinese handphone he picked up in Glodok before he met the girls.
Oh, and how did the two girls he 'picked up in the mall' mange to change their clothes? And in the three days he's had Yeni the secretary, the mall sisters and the masseuse, so who are the girls in the red and the black? Very strange.
Anyway he's challenged me to a pissing contest, I have risen to the challenge in the photo-gallery, I leave it others to decide whether Alpha Cue is the big swinging billiard stick he rather pathetically wants us to think he is.
Clear Water
08-06-13, 12:53
Bloody Hell everything shutting down.
Went to the Maribaya in Melawei this afternoon but 6th floor shut.
Was shown some girls in 2 rooms on the 3rd floor 4 girls but not my cup of tea.
So legged it as fast as I can.
Back to D's and Top Gun as last night as closed next 4 days.
Well Ramadhan is nearly over and once again (tenth time and counting for me) we got through it. What were your strategies?
I overfilled my phone book with contacts before the month but surprisingly I didn't really need most of them. The Blok was open as usual and there was no shortage of girls available and the empty and darkened VIP room in D's came in handy even with those ladies who normally never venture in there.
The big meat factories of North Jakarta were open for business with plenty of stock available. Only without the titty dancers, just as well I always over pay with those lassies. If anything I have more prospective meet-ups ahead over the next few months than before.
Only once was I caught out. Thursday night in the middle of Ramadhan. I spent the afternoon with an old friend from Bogor, two-and-a-half months pregnant so no fasting (not that it would bother her) and looking well for it too. Hubby was out of town on business she claimed, a likely story, more likely he sent her up to get some THR. You've got to love the Sundanese, the sexiest, funniest, smartest and prettiest girls in Indonesia and the most good-for-nothing lazy men, truly the Irish of Indonesia (I can say that I'm a Mick meself).
Anyway I left her off at the Lebak Bulus bus terminal (the last of the great romantics me) and headed through the breakfast traffic to Falatehan when I arrived to find it completely deserted. Mid-month shutdown. Here I was with a hotel room and no one to share it with and too late to call up the reserves. Oh well, one bad night hardly counts.
Be warned however in 40 days we have Idul Adha which always catches out the unwary (including myself on no fewer than three occasions) the bars are shut the night before and not a taxi to be had.
Anyway that's it, roll on Christmas and New Year. What a great town!
First off three cheers for Hilo77 I am with you brother!
I picked up a meeting off one of the dating sites. 30 yo and an aerobics instructor. She is a wild one from one of the eastern islands. Teaches classes 5 days per week. She comes to my place which is over an hour from her home near the docks. That is one hour during Ramadan so you know it is a long distance. She crushed me last night with some very hot sex. Claims I am only the second man to get between her legs. Hard to believe with her aggression during sex. I am thinking a one hit wonder with an amazing body. I think she is looking for more.
So I now have been I have a major problem now! The aerobics instructor. Is beyond insane! Ok slight exaggeration. She fits the too much testosterone female. Very intense personality. She is funny but. Hard to describe.
She is very heavily muscled at 5-5 or 5 6 and about 130 lbs. Legs and body are only a few pounds away from serious cuts.
That is not the problem. Her bother and cousin are in the military.
In the counter intelligence service. They are part of an elite anti terrorist group that is well known.
How the government deals with terrorist. They send one guy to the door. They pretend to knock and then the rest of the group opens fire with everything.
The terrorist refused to cooperate is a common headline. Followed by a body count.
Yep. Stuck my dick someplace I should not have!
Any advice? LOL
. and headed through the breakfast traffic to Falatehan when I arrived to find it completely deserted.No wonder mate! Even for Jakarta that is a little early.
I am coming to Jakarta on 19th for a couple of nights. Have been busy cultivating some contacts on DIA etc recently. If things don't work out with them hoping its long enough after Ramadan for the clubs to be back in action? I hope?
I am really into freebies now since I picked up a smoking hot model a year ago via the internet. Hard to find a replacement for her to be honest.
Now, I've been looking at booking hotels and I have a question to those of those of you who have been in the game in Jakarta longer than me. Is it worth to get a really expensive luxurious hotel to impress the girls I will be meeting?
When I met the hot model, I was staying at Kempinski which is grand and I think that might have impressed her enough to see me as worthy to enter into her pussy. Albeit only after the 3rd time I saw her. And I suppose I'm after the quality girls who might be picky like this. Of course I can't be sure that I would have got the same action if I had met her at a B&B. I'm average looking. 35, from the UK but not caucasion but many more good looking guys I'm sure she could have had, so got a feeling with Indon girls they care more about being the GF of someone with some status and money.
So, is it worth spending a bit of money to impress the girls or does not make much difference guys?
Value your opinions on this.
I am coming to Jakarta on 19th for a couple of nights. Have been busy cultivating some contacts on DIA etc recently. If things don't work out with them hoping its long enough after Ramadan for the clubs to be back in action? I hope?
I am really into freebies now since I picked up a smoking hot model a year ago via the internet. Hard to find a replacement for her to be honest.
Now, I've been looking at booking hotels and I have a question to those of those of you who have been in the game in Jakarta longer than me. Is it worth to get a really expensive luxurious hotel to impress the girls I will be meeting?
When I met the hot model, I was staying at Kempinski which is grand and I think that might have impressed her enough to see me as worthy to enter into her pussy. Albeit only after the 3rd time I saw her. And I suppose I'm after the quality girls who might be picky like this. Of course I can't be sure that I would have got the same action if I had met her at a B&B. I'm average looking. 35, from the UK but not caucasion but many more good looking guys I'm sure she could have had, so got a feeling with Indon girls they care more about being the GF of someone with some status and money.
So, is it worth spending a bit of money to impress the girls or does not make much difference guys?
Value your opinions on this.I did two Jakarta trips this year and had in-room dates with a total of 15 women, all from IndoCupid. I have Rewards Points accounts with Marriott and Hyatt that I used to stay at JW Marriott in Kempang, and Grand Hyatt (near Kempinski). I think those luxury hotels had a positive impact on the women (aged 20 to 44). They generally dressed very well for our dates and seemed to like the ambience of beautiful rooms and luxurious bathrooms (for showering together). It may give the impression that you are wealthy though, and in my case one woman (23) tried to talk me into giving her a lot of money after our session (didn't work of course).
My report on massage parlours in Manga Besar area. Few months old but still worth reading. Tried to find Travel hotel and eventually did after about 30 ins of walking around. Tried to get taxis to go ther but many said they didn't know where it was. Anyway got there and went inside was met by a lady who didn't speak any English she tried to tell me the price but I couldn't understand her. She tried her calculator but it was working then to write but her pen wasn't working. Got a bit turned off so I left, really wanted to try the 2 girls here.
So I decided to walk around a bit and see what around the area, walked back to the main road and there were a few local shops offering massages, so I decide to venture in. First one had only 1 lady available so I decided to try the shop on the next lane. Got there and saw pics of many ladies available. Looked very young and slim. So I chose 2 and asked for the rate which was 300, 000 for 2 ladies 1 hour. Great went upstairs and 2 ladies showed, seemed as though in the ten minutes I waited for them they aged about 20 years, They were bot about 40 and on the heavy side (this was the turn off for me). So I left.
Ended up at Staduim and went in and up to the massage floor. Only 1 lady working so I decided to try. 200, 000 + 50, 000 for the room. Forgot her name but it was not that great, she was ok but in a hurry. But quick to ask for a tip, so gave her 50, 000 and bolted from the room.
Would try again but when there are more ladies available.
I am venturing back to Jakarta next month after a long absence. I used to enjoy visiting the Kartika Massage.
Although the place seemed grubby it holds that strange attraction for me.
Would anyone like to offer me an update on the establishment please?
Best time to visit, preferred ladies, current rateper lady, correct tip amount etc.
I will certainly write a report on my return.
Continuation of Day 3 report #7507.
I have a nice buzz from the whisky and don't feel like going out but still need something to unwind. I call to arrange an in room massage.Do you have the number you used?
Thanks
Master Diver II
08-13-13, 16:38
I am coming to Jakarta on 19th for a couple of nights. Have been busy cultivating some contacts on DIA etc recently. If things don't work out with them hoping its long enough after Ramadan for the clubs to be back in action? I hope?
So, is it worth spending a bit of money to impress the girls or does not make much difference guys?
Value your opinions on this.There will be plenty of "new" girls in Jakarta by the 19th and things will be back to normal. As for the spending money to impress, it's not what I'm into. I've managed without the grand hotels - as long as the accommodation is decent. I prefer chic boutique hotels to big 6 star joints. I'm not into spending to impress, but balancing out having fun without being a cheapskate. I'd just go with the flow. I've been out and opened a couple of bottles, and I've been to simple cafes for a date (or even just direct to my hotel room). All yielded the same results. The most important thing is that the girls feel some sense of adventure / fun and have a grin on their face at the end of the night.
MD II
There will be plenty of "new" girls in Jakarta by the 19th and things will be back to normal. As for the spending money to impress, it's not what I'm into. I've managed without the grand hotels. As long as the accommodation is decent. I prefer chic boutique hotels to big 6 star joints. I'm not into spending to impress, but balancing out having fun without being a cheapskate. I'd just go with the flow. I've been out and opened a couple of bottles, and I've been to simple cafes for a date (or even just direct to my hotel room). All yielded the same results. The most important thing is that the girls feel some sense of adventure / fun and have a grin on their face at the end of the night.
MD IIHey Master Diver,
How about the scene in Greater Eid, Eid of Sacrifice? It will be on mid October. How will be the scene during Eid? Still fun or girls go to their hometowns? Also how about the establishments? Open or closed?
Thanks in advance.
Hey Master Diver,
How about the scene in Greater Eid, Eid of Sacrifice? It will be on mid October. How will be the scene during Eid? Still fun or girls go to their hometowns? Also how about the establishments? Open or closed?
Thanks in advance.See my post below. Girls don't go their hometowns but all the bars and clubs are shut for two days.
Called in late yesterday but closed and looks like for some time now.
Any news on a reopening.
Scotsdale
KingForKing
08-17-13, 21:14
Anyway he's challenged me to a pissing contest, I have risen to the challenge in the photo-gallery, I leave it others to decide.Hey Hilo! What's gotten into you lately? Like a jilted school girl, you seem to be obsessed with Alpha in every forum. I have read Alpha's reports, where did he challenge you to anything, let alone a pissing contest? His reports don't even mention you.
Why run yelping like a stray dog after the exhaust pipes of a Maserati? Even if you can catch up, what are you going to do? Lick it to death?
Is this another instance like when you told KK that because the dancers at D's rejected you, you don't believe KK could have had the hot ones in the VIP room? I remember you told KK then that he should also, like you, stick to the old hags at the bar. Just because some girls behave one way towards you doesn't mean that all girls behave the same way towards everybody. So, no need to get into a pissing contest, blind Freddy can see Alpha's girls are in another league to yours. But the more important point is so what if they are?
Me? I'd be happy that, like you, when the day comes I can still pull the old hags in the bar. Keep your photos of them, if they still make you happy, there's nothing wrong with the kind of 'value for money' girls evidently you and I like. We have our memories. Isn't that what matters in the end? That's the great thing about Jakarta. There's something for everyone. Like others in the forum, just enjoy Alpha's reports. You and I don't have to compete with him to prove our self worth to anyone.
Put away those old Hustler magazines, wipe your hands off and read Othello instead. Might help to get over the jealousy part.
JohnnyGolfr
08-18-13, 22:37
Faaris,
You should pick a decent hotel that is clean and GF. You didn't mention what area you wanted to stay in. I prefer the Senayan area, so the Mulia is my choice. I have stayed at the Shanghri-La, the Crowne Plaza, and the Gran Melia. All but the Gran Melia would be worth staying in again. I stayed at the Gran Melia twice, got strep both times. And not from the ladies. If you are thinking of another area, let me know. I'll try to help with suggestions.
Girls from dating sites (the non-pros) are just like any other woman. They want to be treated nice, have a nice dinner, and most are open to some fun. By nice dinner, I'm talking dropping $50. $75 for dinner, depending on where you go. Doesn't have to be a $200+ dinner, by any means.
If you act like you only want sex, they may want to end the night early.
Some want an LTR. So don't make promises just to get them in bed. They can get squirrelly after the act. Nothing gets hotel security's attention like a crying, upset woman leaving the hotel. There are plenty of other girls on there, and other similar sites, that are cool with ONS and short term dating. Just takes a little subtle questioning to rule out the ones looking for LTR.
Let me know if you need more info and feel free to PM me.
I am coming to Jakarta on 19th for a couple of nights. Have been busy cultivating some contacts on DIA etc recently. If things don't work out with them hoping its long enough after Ramadan for the clubs to be back in action? I hope?
I am really into freebies now since I picked up a smoking hot model a year ago via the internet. Hard to find a replacement for her to be honest.
Now, I've been looking at booking hotels and I have a question to those of those of you who have been in the game in Jakarta longer than me. Is it worth to get a really expensive luxurious hotel to impress the girls I will be meeting?
When I met the hot model, I was staying at Kempinski which is grand and I think that might have impressed her enough to see me as worthy to enter into her pussy. Albeit only after the 3rd time I saw her. And I suppose I'm after the quality girls who might be picky like this. Of course I can't be sure that I would have got the same action if I had met her at a B&B. I'm average looking. 35, from the UK but not caucasion but many more good looking guys I'm sure she could have had, so got a feeling with Indon girls they care more about being the GF of someone with some status and money.
So, is it worth spending a bit of money to impress the girls or does not make much difference guys?
Value your opinions on this.
Cooze Hound
08-20-13, 06:19
Called in late yesterday but closed and looks like for some time now.
Any news on a reopening.
ScotsdaleSportsmans closed permanently earlier this year, at least that was the word at the closing bash they held. However thats not to say someone may try to resurrect it.
This is my second crew from a city south of Jakarta. Rub a dub 4 on a bed. I do hate the white face mask. Ages 19, 19, and 21. Cost for overnight. 2 million. Yes I over pay, but I do get very personalized service.
Can anyone recommend a good place to visit, see the girls and then bring a good one back to the hotel? I would be interested in hearing from anyone that has had a good experience with take-out. I know there are escort services, but you never know who will show up at your door. I like to visit her first, see her and talk to her and check out the vibes.
I picked to stay close to Indonesia Mall hoping to get some local action. I did not see too much of action going on there. I took a taxi and went to Alexis hotel around 7pm and I was pleasantly surprised. The were about ten different sections. The Indonesian section, Vietnam, Chinese, Russian etc. The problem was that the client section was in the middle of this huge room and you could not see well the girls. Of course there were some assistants who were trying to help and based on your likes they would bring some girls over. One assistant I believe has name was Isa or something like that brunette with glasses was realy nice and helpfull. First I picked an Indonesian girl maybe 18-23 spoke a little English but she was happy. I went to the lockers to change and then we went to the pool and hot jacuzzi. There for about half an hour she would massage and hug me a pleasant GF experience. After that was done she took me to the rooms downstairs. The rooms nice, spacious and modern. She took me to the shower were she washed my whole body and make a funny face when she saw my dick. In bed she started with a BJ and enjoyed being fingered, she became wet realy fast. I always start missionery style to warm them up and after a while I turn her around to do doggy style. She took a pounding with no complains and her pussy was very tight. After I came she continued with a massage. Again a shower and back to the main floor. A pleasant experience cost 1.2mil.
I drunk a beer and waited half an hour to reenergize. The assistant came and asked me. If she can help. I really would have prefer to take her but I do not think she was available. She brought me a Vietnam girl with straight long black her. I took her, same routine, pool, shower and in the bed. This girl was also very active, enjoyed sex and since I had already come half an hour ago, she took quite a pounding. She did not complain, she was active and I made her sweat it out. Good experience for sure this particular girl is a repeat. Damage 2.0 mil.
Second day in Jakarta. I go back to Alexis around 7pm. I picked another Vietnam girl. I was told she was new and she really was. My eyes though were in a Chinese girl that some other guy had already picked. Wow what a girl. Anyway same routine, pool, shower, bed. This girl was ok bur in comparison with my prior day's experience no good. I desided to leave because I wanted to see the club BATS. I went there around 11pm. A lot of girls, some really nice. As you come down the stairs to the corner of the bar usually hang out too girls. One is tall and pretty. The other one with large glasses secretary style and nice tits. After having a couple beers and vodka shots I realized that the pretty one was gone with another client. I therefore took the one with the glasses to the hotel. Attention you must settle to the price before you leave the club. A friend of mine had to kick the girl out of the hotel because she was asking 3mil. I was therefore prepared and settled to 1.2mil. This girl in the hotel was so horny I can not describe it. She liked her tits bitten and her ass slapped. She took quite a pounding with no complaints. She actually came at least twice. Really horny girl.
Can anyone recommend a good place to visit, see the girls and then bring a good one back to the hotel? I would be interested in hearing from anyone that has had a good experience with take-out. I know there are escort services, but you never know who will show up at your door. I like to visit her first, see her and talk to her and check out the vibes.The girls in the jalan Faletehan bars (Blok M) are as well are the girls in the hotel bars like BATS or CJ. JakartaAfterDark knows houses for take-outs in different parts of Jakarta.
Sorry, may be a stupid question:
What means with BATS and CJ?
AdventureSeeke
08-26-13, 02:40
Hi MD:
I did get the hint and I did post an FR. Sorry if I am not as eloquent as others. I just shared my experience in KL on that thread. In response to yours.
I do agree that I should contribute first before seeking help and will do my best to do so going forward.Guys,
This is a much delayed report. I just want to say thank you for a wealth of information.
I spent 2 nights in Jakarta (I know too short). In July and had an amazing time. The price performance was among the best in the world.
First night I was at BATS and the place was perfect for what I was looking for. Met one that was an 8 in my books (I prefer petite ones) and negotiated 1 million. She had a friend and she insisted on bringing along (was too tired for a threesome) , but she asked for a combined 1.5Million and I decided to go for it. The friend was about a 4 or a 5 and I was not super excited about her. We went back to the hotel and the 'friend' stayed in the living room (had a suite) and did my original pick. Had a fantastic time.
Next day, I corresponded with someone via craigslist and we agreed to meet up at Sky bar. She wanted USD 300 and the description was very intriguing. We agreed to meet for drinks and take it from there. Unfortunately, she kept me waiting for over 45 minutes and I started chatting up a local girl (non-working) and by the time she showed up, I was already irritated and the looks were average (around a 6. At best a 7). So, I politely walked off and went to CJs.
Boy, this place was hopping. Met someone at around 1 pm and negotiated 800K. Unfortunately, I was wasted and picked up someone that was a 5. The looks was average and experience was average. I spent too much time stuck in traffic and at Sky bar and did not take my time.
Overall, had a fantastic experience. Can't wait to go back.
AdventureSeeke
08-26-13, 02:44
Sorry, may be a stupid question:
What means with BATS and CJ?These are clubs with plenty of 'working girls'. Bats is located within Shangir-la hotel. CJs is located in hotel Mulia.
Pahllus Maximus
08-26-13, 06:52
Indonesia is new to me. I see that exchange rate is about 11, 000 to USD 1. 00, and rates (apparently) start at 1 million or USD 92.
That is expensive compared to LOS.
Have I got the rates rights?
Indonesia is new to me. I see that exchange rate is about 11, 000 to USD 1. 00, and rates (apparently) start at 1 million or USD 92. That is expensive compared to LOS. Have I got the rates rights?I'm a cheapskate. A million is a lot more than I'd pay for P4P. Simple bordellos like Berlian, Kartika, Hotel Travel, etc, charge around 300-400. Maribaya Bar charges 500. In all cases, if you ever want to go back, you'd be advised to leave a tip of 50-100. Been ages since I've picked up a girl from Blok M bars, but I used to pay 500 for all night. If I went back now, I'd aim for 600. I speak Indonesian well and have been here for a good long while, which might effect pricing in the bars (it shouldn't affect prices in the bordellos).
Traveler1234
08-26-13, 14:09
I'm a cheapskate. A million is a lot more than I'd pay for P4P. Simple bordellos like Berlian, Kartika, Hotel Travel, etc, charge around 300-400. Maribaya Bar charges 500. In all cases, if you ever want to go back, you'd be advised to leave a tip of 50-100. Been ages since I've picked up a girl from Blok M bars, but I used to pay 500 for all night.Except for the high end spas with fixed menu prices, most cewek FL start at 1 juta+ but with some patience and a smile, should negotiate down to 500-600K level. If you speak some bahasa, helps smooth things over....
Afrolover2000
08-26-13, 16:17
Some time ago I had the ooprtunity to visit Jakarta in Indoensia again. During previous visits I didn't had the time to enjoy some of the lovely local girls. This time I had more luck. I surfed the net a bit and found a few promising escorts. I went for a good looking girl whose body seemed to be nice and slender but still rounded at the right spots who also offered anal sex. We had an exchange via email and sms and she sounded nice.
She smsd me when she had arrived and I picked her up from the lobby. She looked quite good though not pretty in a European sense – very Asian. She turned out to be 26, her body seemed to be even younger- very nice and with good skin. In my room we settled on the sofa, I offered her a drink (only water) and she started snuggling up on me, kissing me (open mouth, French kissing) and – of course – didn't mind when I cupped her tits and slowly unpacked them from her blouse and bra. She had nice ones (which were already shown on her internet side) and her nipples became hard the instant I licked and sucked them.
It didn't take us long to get naked and me licking her pussy, which smelled very clean. She became very moist very fast and when I started fingering her pussy and biting her clit she came. But she didn't want me to stop here and urged me to also put a finger into her ass and fingerfuck her hard with three fingers in her pussy and one in her ass – until she came again. This time she lifted herself up on her feet and head pushing her pussy and ass – still stuffed with my fingers . Towards me. After that I took a few photos of her. She didn't mind as long as wouldn't take her face but in the heat of what followed that became no longer important and I was able to make a series of good photos with her face fully visible.
It was my turn then: I asked her to kneel in front of me and suck me off. After a short while she slowly pushed me over and we sank back on the bed where she attended to my close to bursting dick with even more vigour. At times she would only play with her tongue then she would deep-throat me before she would suck me hard. It didn't take too long and I exploded in her mouth. I had told her before that I would like her to take my full load in her mouth and she had promised: 'No problem'! And no problem it was: she kept on sucking and licking the tip of my dick until I softened up. Only then did she go to the bathroom and spit it out and cleaned her mouth.
The next round after I had recovered and was hard again was then good ol' fucking. At first she came on top of me and rode me by squeezing her pussy muscles around my shaft which send a lot of pleasure up my spine. When I felt after some minutes that I would no longer be able to hold back much longer we changed position and I entered her in doggy-style position. In this position her ass was open to me and I started caressing her tight little asshole. She immediately encouraged me to push my finger in deep; I could feel my dick inside her pussy through the thin membrane. Then she told me to get my finger out as she wanted to push hers in. I could also feel her finger on my dick. This made me very, very randy and making her withdraw her finger I grabbed her slightly meaty ass cheeks and pumped hard into her until I came again. I don't know if she came again but I was too much lost in my own pleasure to relay care at this moment – selfish me!
We rested for a while and she told me that she liked being with two men at the same time and even tried a sandwich a few times. To prove it she showed me some pictures of her with two guys on her cellphone, which seemed to have quite a collection of naughty pics with her in action. All the sucking and fucking had made her apparently randy again. When I started playing with her pussy she was dripping wet and urged me to have another round of fucking. When I was after some caressing and sucking hard again I entered her from behind and fucked her slowly to a climax. For myself I had other plans: I wanted to fuck her tight little ass. Although she came prepared for that (Vaseline) and we had worked on her sphincter with our fingers before I was unable to penetrate her with a condom on. As I didn't want to risk fucking her without one we aborted the assfucking idea. I urged her to give me another heavenly blow job. She straddled my chest presented me with her quim in a classic 69 position and worked on my dick with her mouth and hands. As I had indicated earlier on that I enjoyed being assfingered myself she also attended to my brown hole. I got more and more aroused and despite my two previous cums I produced another real mouthful she had trouble to keep inside. But she dutifully sucked up all I could produce and only then disappeared into the bathroom.
By then we had been at it for more than an hour and I felt slightly exhausted but just lying next to her and playing with her beautiful body (and especially her wet pussy) made me against all expectations hard again. Dian was quite surprised to see my dick standing up again and proposed that we did another round of fucking. She came on top this time and rode me very slowly. She seemed to be concentrating on her own climax so I let her do what she wanted just encouraging her to take all of my dick inside her greedy pussy. She became more hectic and increased her pace and eventually produced another come herself. When she rested against my chest I could feel her skin having become sweaty despite the good air con – she must have really worked hard to climax.
I had kept on making slow fucking moves with my dick inside her pussy just to remind her that I still wanted to cum as well. When she caught her breath I gently pushed her off and told her to kneel in front of me to receive a face shot. She worked hard on my dick with both hands and mouth; I tore my dick out of her mouth in the last moment to shoot across her face; the next shot went back into her wide open mouth apparently hitting the back of her throat and forcing her to swallow it. I managed to squeeze one photo out of my camera showing her face marked by my cum.
This time was the only time she complained a bit because I not only made her swallow some of my cum but also because my face shot had also gone straight into one of her eyes and she was concerned it would cause a red eye and show. So she rushed to the bathroom and rinsed her eye. We talked some more before she left me after more than 2, 5 pleasurable hours. The price? For some serial mongers probably too high for me worth it: 150 USD.
Can anyone recommend a good place to visit, see the girls and then bring a good one back to the hotel? I would be interested in hearing from anyone that has had a good experience with take-out. I know there are escort services, but you never know who will show up at your door. I like to visit her first, see her and talk to her and check out the vibes.The regular location is Bats, CJ or Blok M Area.
There are some house in taman sari that provide take out service, but a lot of them closed down already.
Indonesia is new to me. I see that exchange rate is about 11, 000 to USD 1. 00, and rates (apparently) start at 1 million or USD 92.
That is expensive compared to LOS.
Have I got the rates rights?Depend on location.
If you are looking for in-call that is a regular rate.
For in-house spa classic is around 300k so around USD 28.
Pick up joint in blok m could be around 400-600
And the "salary" for pick up ladies in Bats or CJ?
Hi guys,
I am planning a trip next year with a couple of Friends and Jakarta is really high on our Radar (has to be with so much information available). Anyway I have RTFF and have a very good idea of what we are going to do and stay and how to get laid.
On reading most of the posts, the girls all seem to have a liking for bule's (western tourists). I am a citizen of a western country but of Indian origin. I have also read somewhere on the forum, that dressing smart will increase your chances or scoring working girls. I am wondering if being of Indian origin is going to hamper our chances at scoring with the girls in the bars or pick-up joints. I am also very interested in trying out the various malls to see if we can get something going from there, but am skeptical that we would not get a lot of responses, not being a bule.
Also is Easter a good time to visit, in terms of availability of girls as well as activities. Thanks.
Hi guys,
I'm going to be in the city for a while with work, and looking for some company. I'm more interested in the FL / part time crowd, especially students trying to earn their tuition fees. Anyone got some good recommendations on a few likely spots / sites?
Thanks in advance,
Cheers!
Siepko Bach
08-30-13, 00:34
Spent three nights in Jakarta, staying in Kota. Three different nice experiences.
The first night I went into Berlian where I saw a handful seemingly uninterested girls. So went on to Ksrtika. Lots of girls there, all willing to go with me (at a price, of course). I chose Yanti who spoke some English. We had a nice massage and good sex afterwards. 350 plus 50 tip.
Second night: hotel Travel. Chose Linda and let her choose a companion. Excellent session in the room. The girls had clearly decided before who does what. Linda showered with me, the other (forgot her name) did the same afterwards. Linda concentrated on my niplles, the other on my balls. Everything was clearly explained to me by Linda and I don't mind as long as both deliver (and they certainly did).475K plus two times 50 tip.
Third and last night. The nights before I noticed Nia with her mamasan at Lokasari mall. On the third night, there was no mamasan and Nia approached me. Agreed on 500K for all night, excellent.
Traveler1234
08-30-13, 02:02
And the "salary" for pick up ladies in Bats or CJ?They will ask for satu juta+, up to your skills to market rate 500-700K LT. Same ceweks from BATS / CJ end up moving over to Blok M for 500K
Master Diver II
08-30-13, 04:39
Hi guys,
I am planning a trip next year with a couple of Friends and Jakarta is really high on our Radar (has to be with so much information available). Anyway I have RTFF and have a very good idea of what we are going to do and stay and how to get laid.
On reading most of the posts, the girls all seem to have a liking for bule's (western tourists). I am a citizen of a western country but of Indian origin. I have also read somewhere on the forum, that dressing smart will increase your chances or scoring working girls. I am wondering if being of Indian origin is going to hamper our chances at scoring with the girls in the bars or pick-up joints. I am also very interested in trying out the various malls to see if we can get something going from there, but am skeptical that we would not get a lot of responses, not being a bule.
Also is Easter a good time to visit, in terms of availability of girls as well as activities. Thanks.Are you targeting P4P or non-P4P? The dressing is more important for the non-P4P. If I may ask, are you a dark skinned or fair Indian? There are girls for everyone, just that it's easier for some. Take note that Bollywood movies have a large following here, so being Indian is not necessarily a bad thing (and some girls may be fascinated. Depending on how you present yourself). Forget worrying about the times of the year like Easter as there should be no problem. Check Indonesian holidays like the two Eids, National day, Nyepi and especially if they happen to cause long weekends. The worst time has just passed (Ramadhan and the week after Idul Fitri). You have so much time before coming, why don't you hedge your bets and check some of the dating sites. Incidentally, I'm Asian, and sometimes mistaken for Indian.
MD II
Are you targeting P4P or non-P4P? The dressing is more important for the non-P4P. If I may ask, are you a dark skinned or fair Indian? There are girls for everyone, just that it's easier for some. Take note that Bollywood movies have a large following here, so being Indian is not necessarily a bad thing (and some girls may be fascinated. Depending on how you present yourself). Forget worrying about the times of the year like Easter as there should be no problem. Check Indonesian holidays like the two Eids, National day, Nyepi and especially if they happen to cause long weekends. The worst time has just passed (Ramadhan and the week after Idul Fitri). You have so much time before coming, why don't you hedge your bets and check some of the dating sites. Incidentally, I'm Asian, and sometimes mistaken for Indian.
MD IIHi MD II,
Thanks for you are reply. We are average, not too dark and not too fair, say light brown. We are primarily going to go for P4P, but also try our hand at the non-P4P, as we will be staying for about 2 weeks. Got to look for something else to justify the trip and take some touristy stuff and stories back for the missus. You can only bullshit that much.
Reading the forum, hunting in the malls seems to be very active, so definitely try that as well. I will try DIA and Indocupid before we come.
They will ask for satu juta+, up to your skills to market rate 500-700K LT. Same ceweks from BATS / CJ end up moving over to Blok M for 500KTraveler,
I heard the price was a lot more-usually around $1 million for ST and $1. 5 million for all night. This, of course, was for a younger woman who was very good-looking.
Traveler1234
08-30-13, 11:40
Traveler,
I heard the price was a lot more-usually around $1 million for ST and $1. 5 million for all night. This, of course, was for a younger woman who was very good-looking.I've never paid more than 500K ST and 800K for LT. YMMV
Mighty Spearsman
08-30-13, 16:11
Traveler,
I heard the price was a lot more-usually around $1 million for ST and $1. 5 million for all night. This, of course, was for a younger woman who was very good-looking.
I've never paid more than 500K ST and 800K for LT. YMMVMy experience is similar to Traveler1234's experience. Always remember that there's usually a difference between what a young lady's original asking price is and what she's eventually willing to settle for, depending on the laws of supply & demand (what time of night it is, how much competition there is, whether she's at CJ's or Blok M, etc.)
My experience is similar to Traveler1234's experience. Always remember that there's usually a difference between what a young lady's original asking price is and what she's eventually willing to settle for, depending on the laws of supply & demand (what time of night it is, how much competition there is, whether she's at CJ's or Blok M, etc.)Thank you. I'll keep that in mind when I negotiate.
Canyon
Does anyone have any ideas on how to find University students in Jakarta who might want to come back to your hotel for a session?
Mighty Spearsman
09-03-13, 04:38
Does anyone have any ideas on how to find University students in Jakarta who might want to come back to your hotel for a session?As you are entering the congested part of Jakarta, there's a big mall on the right, Mal Ciputra/Citra Land I think the name is, that's near several universities (Trisakti University, Tarumanagara University) and is usually crawling with students. Plaza Semanggi often has students from the next-door University Atma Jaya. Hopefully some of the other posters will have better recommendations.
As you are entering the congested part of Jakarta, there's a big mall on the right, Mal Ciputra/Citra Land I think the name is, that's near several universities (Trisakti University, Tarumanagara University) and is usually crawling with students. Plaza Semanggi often has students from the next-door University Atma Jaya. Hopefully some of the other posters will have better recommendations.Thank you, Mighty Spearsman.
On reading most of the posts, the girls all seem to have a liking for bule's (western tourists). I am a citizen of a western country but of Indian origin. I have also read somewhere on the forum, that dressing smart will increase your chances or scoring working girls. I am wondering if being of Indian origin is going to hamper our chances at scoring with the girls in the bars or pick-up joints. I am also very interested in trying out the various malls to see if we can get something going from there, but am skeptical that we would not get a lot of responses, not being a bule.
Also is Easter a good time to visit, in terms of availability of girls as well as activities. Thanks.Unfortunately it does for some girl depend on the location.
We do have many local indian in Indonesia so make sure you dress nicely so you can fall in the good category.
Hi guys,
I'm going to be in the city for a while with work, and looking for some company. I'm more interested in the FL / part time crowd, especially students trying to earn their tuition fees. Anyone got some good recommendations on a few likely spots / sites?
Thanks in advance,
Cheers!Those girl is actually not very open for pick up.
There used to be some mall you can pick up but not too easy now.
Try atrium senen around the movie studio.
Other than that you can try golden crown.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to find University students in Jakarta who might want to come back to your hotel for a session?That is actually not a easy task.
Most of them not very open about it.
So don't expect to score up some student from trisakti or tarumanegara in citraland.
It is easier to look for them in clubs such as Alexis 4Play or golden crown.
You can also try the club scene at citiyloft sudirman
Traveler1234
09-03-13, 20:21
Thank you, Mighty Spearsman.When are you actually visiting -- so that we can get a FR?
When are you actually visiting -- so that we can get a FR?I'll be there from September 8-15, and I'll try to write a report toward the end of that period.
FrenchTouch
09-06-13, 12:27
Am in Jakarta for a three days.
1st night arrived at 920 PM from Singapore with Garuda. Since the prices are equivalent to the low costs and no addtl charges for luggage food etc thought it was a good deal. Well it is, planes are new, service is ok for economy, food edible. The only donwturn is the time at immigration, this time took around an hour to clear the VOA thing.
Arrived at my hotel in Kuningan at 11 something. Time to depile mails and give a few scalls, shower, put the mandatroy dark jeans white shirt and hop to TopGun.
Had quite a good time there, chatted with a few girls, bought a drink to two of them, one of them eating me litterally with her eyes. She was definitely too chubby, although her face, smile and eyes were just awesome.
No problem for her friend, whom I could have banged but seemed reluctant, she started to introduce me girl after girl. Took a long while to decide, until finally settled for Septy. 25 (most likely true) , sweet face, nice body although could be toned more, strange tatoo on her right arm.
Had two shots, BJ quite nice, various positions. Worth the 600 000 she would not budge from. Left at 8AM as agreed. No time in the morning since second drive was already on her way.
One of my old faves, married, one kid, bule husband neglecting her, works in finance, quite smart and a good shag. She arrived at 925, bed was cleaned up by myselt (hair can be anywhere, trust me.) and I did not need to hurt her feelings or face any questions. When she arrived she announced the bad news of the day, her period just started. So she could exert her favorite exercise, which is to blow me. I supposed I already reported, she gives what I call hungry head, like there is no tomorrow. And she managed to drain me, after a time that seemed to never end, of a few ctl of cum. Just nice. Then hop to work for both of us.
Night came after a good day of work, meetings then work with team in Paris. I was a bit tired, so decided not to go out. Pro.
Today schedule went a bit bersekr, and I had time in the afternoon. So headed to Hotal Classic 2nd floor, which was a first for me.
Honestly I was not that impressed. I find the place a bit gloomy, and tihe quality of the grils not much better than the low end massage places I have seen in BKK. LOud karaoke music. Dim lights. Girls extermely made up. Some good looking but looking so bored that they did not inspire me. Rooms are clean though. I got the 46000 combo thing, with two girls who seemed to get along well. Or so they promised. Well there was not much to say. Quite mechanical BJ from both of us, then average sex from the cutest. My not knowing bahasa was for sure not to my advantage. I would give it (the experience) a 5 at max. Seems that place is not my thing. I still tipped them. 50K each, since I could not blame them for much. They had been very friendly so I guess they deseerved it. To each his own, I guess. Might try again another time to see if I was not lucky this time.
Tonight might meet with one of the Blendr contacts. Or haunt the usual hunting places. After all it's Friday.
Prestigejy
09-07-13, 02:24
i went to jakarta with a friend of mine last week with the aim of sexploration. the traffic was horrible during the day time. thus most of the day time we spent in dreamland. this is my second trip to this lovely land of indonesia. decided to stay near the place of actions. mangga besar. mangga besar is a place where you don't see a lot of white men. mostly asian.
1st night- stadium jakarta.
its located at one of the lane at hayam wuruk opposite the paragon shopping mall. reach there around 12am. obviously 12 am is still early as the patrons only come around 3-4am. directly enter the disco place with the entrance fee of 100 k rupiah with a drink. this is a place with lots of people on drugs and the music suits them. don't be surprise if you see many customer only drink mineral water there. the mummy were very aggresive in trying to hook you up with their girls. keep calm and just sit back. enjoy the music while you slowly choose the girls. many of the girls here were on drugs too. i choose one with thick lips and friendly. the sex took place at upstair and the cost was 350 k plus 100 k tips. the room also equiped with disco music. and the sex was great as i have the feeling being raped by a girl high on drugs.
2nd night-
supposed to meet up with a dia girl but later i started to feel something wrong with the profile picture posted on dia. it was like too good to be true type. i requested a recent photo of her and since then she disappear just like fart in the air. she requested 600 k for st which is a bit pricey. another thing is that she did not want to pick up the phone and that make me more suspicious. who knows who will appear in front of your door step. no worry. jakarta is full of chances. just give it a miss. i ended up in classic 2nd floor. paid an ojek 10 k for a short trip from mangga besar. there are dozen of girls to choose from. 2 girls cost you 450 k. great place with many beautiful girls. the karaokie was good too if you know bahasa.
final day.
went to kartika on sunday evening. it was at the intesection between mangga besar and hayam wuruk. 1st lane on the left after u-turn left. this place mostly are milf with big boobies. i think it is necessary as they provide the soapy massage with their boobies. it won't be fun if the girl who massage you only has a cup boobies. i was the only customer there at the time. the pressure is on me as the mamasan and girls keep pushing me choose a girl fast. i choose a b cup sweeties who claimed to be still haven't gave birth to a child. the service was enjoyable and the cost was 350 k plus 100k tips. make sure you talk about how much tips you got to pay before you go in. its common many of them ask for 200 k tips with their sad story. i stand on my ground and insist of 100 k tips.
FrenchTouch
09-07-13, 12:56
Lack of preparation made it not possible to meet the blendr contact.
So I went to CJs. Had been a while. Did not change much. Maybe more indonesian men than usual, but that's only my guess.
Had quite a few drinks. Was starting thinking going elsewhere when this tall slim girl gave me the eye and "accidentally" bumped into me. I had noticed her and one of her friends, the face looked familiar. Not one I had bonked ever, I think I would remember. I was quite interested she must me 170 cms and quite slim which is rare in Jakarta.
Anyway, once the bumping had occured, we started to talk the usual BS your name your country your hotel. More and more the face looked familiar and then the big light shone on me : for the second time in a few months I meet one of my ex chatmates from dating sites in a bar (1st one happened in SG a few months back).
So I asked her you are on dateinasia right? Remember we chatted? Then gave her my I'd there and she was the one.
We had a drink, then two, that helped dissipate the awkardness, on my side cause I definitely not brag about about paying for sex when I address supposed good girls, on her side she certainly did not profess her sideline as piranha in CJs and others. We started making out. And hoped home. By then it was already past 2 am.
Arrived in hotel, had a quite nice session, lasted for what like seemed hours, even if stupid drunk me "forgot" to use plastic. Nice BBBJ, I tried to DATY but she had not shaved so did not stay long. She was extremely wet all through out. We both came (well me am sure, might be she is just and award nominee in the process. She should hurry being 32 now.). And slept soundly.
Woke up at 830 or so. I was up for another round. But during the night a few spots of blood had appeared. My heavy driling seemed to have hurried what according to her was supposed to happen only later.
She still gave me a long session of alternate BBBJ and wanking which ended happily a good 45 minutes later.
Time to pack, insert a few notes (800 still but at the current exchange rate it's still a bargain) in her purse, which she thanked me for without counting and hop in two separate cabs. Her back home, me to the airport.
Not bad for a 3 days stay all in all.
Am in Jakarta for a three days.
1st night arrived at 920 PM from Singapore with Garuda. Since the prices are equivalent to the low costs and no addtl charges for luggage food etc thought it was a good deal. Well it is, planes are new, service is ok for economy, food edible. The only donwturn is the time at immigration, this time took around an hour to clear the VOA thing.
Arrived at my hotel in Kuningan at 11 something. Time to depile mails and give a few scalls, shower, put the mandatroy dark jeans white shirt and hop to TopGun.
Had quite a good time there, chatted with a few girls, bought a drink to two of them, one of them eating me litterally with her eyes. She was definitely too chubby, although her face, smile and eyes were just awesome.
No problem for her friend, whom I could have banged but seemed reluctant, she started to introduce me girl after girl. Took a long while to decide, until finally settled for Septy. 25 (most likely true) , sweet face, nice body although could be toned more, strange tatoo on her right arm.
Had two shots, BJ quite nice, various positions. Worth the 600 000 she would not budge from. Left at 8AM as agreed. No time in the morning since second drive was already on her way.
One of my old faves, married, one kid, bule husband neglecting her, works in finance, quite smart and a good shag. She arrived at 925, bed was cleaned up by myselt (hair can be anywhere, trust me.) and I did not need to hurt her feelings or face any questions. When she arrived she announced the bad news of the day, her period just started. So she could exert her favorite exercise, which is to blow me. I supposed I already reported, she gives what I call hungry head, like there is no tomorrow. And she managed to drain me, after a time that seemed to never end, of a few ctl of cum. Just nice. Then hop to work for both of us.
Night came after a good day of work, meetings then work with team in Paris. I was a bit tired, so decided not to go out. Pro.
Today schedule went a bit bersekr, and I had time in the afternoon. So headed to Hotal Classic 2nd floor, which was a first for me.
Honestly I was not that impressed. I find the place a bit gloomy, and tihe quality of the grils not much better than the low end massage places I have seen in BKK. LOud karaoke music. Dim lights. Girls extermely made up. Some good looking but looking so bored that they did not inspire me. Rooms are clean though. I got the 46000 combo thing, with two girls who seemed to get along well. Or so they promised. Well there was not much to say. Quite mechanical BJ from both of us, then average sex from the cutest. My not knowing bahasa was for sure not to my advantage. I would give it (the experience) a 5 at max. Seems that place is not my thing. I still tipped them. 50K each, since I could not blame them for much. They had been very friendly so I guess they deseerved it. To each his own, I guess. Might try again another time to see if I was not lucky this time.
Tonight might meet with one of the Blendr contacts. Or haunt the usual hunting places. After all it's Friday.
SirMarjAlot
09-08-13, 14:20
Bangkok to Jakarta.
Flew into Jakarta from Bangkok with Air Asia, return fare was £270, flight time a little over 3 hours. At Jakarta airport you have to pay for a visa on arrival VOA which costs $25.
Blue bird taxi from airport to hotel in Kota, North Jakarta costing 110, 000 Rupiah including tip.
Jalan Mangga Besar.
I was staying at the Sparks hotel along Jalan Mangga Besar the heart of the mongering action in Kota. My first night in Jakarta I find Lokasari plaza and then some bars like My Madonna and Bintang Mawar.
My Madonna had some nice house girls and Bintang Mawar was very busy early evening with local Indonesian guys drinking and some drunk.
Sparks Hotel, Thematic Sex.
My first night mongering in Jakarta I played safe and indulged in some thematic sex back at the Sparks hotel. For 700,000 Rupiah, you choose a theme. I chose office and then your girl. I chose a busty mid twenties Indonesian girl.
She then takes you to a room done out like an office and then gets dressed up as a secretary and calls you boss. Good session with her on the office table. Beware Indonesian condoms are really on the small side and you should carry your own.
Hotel Travel.
My second day mongering in Jakarta I try the Hotel Travel a 5 minute walk from Sparks Hotel. Hotel Travel opens around 2 pm and you enter the Spa through a side entrance. Inside some really nice house girls sat around in a lounge area.
Mamasans are trying to get you to choose one of their girls. Eventually I choose a sexy curvy 19 yo Indonesian girls who leads me to a really nice room, very clean and large.
Good session with the girl in the Travel Hotel, she was fun, enjoyed it a lot more as had taken my own condoms.
Some real stunners in the Travel hotel I could have spent all my time in the hotel travel but wanted to experience other options in Jakarta. Total bill including a few beers was under 500,000 Rupiah which you settle on exit.
That night the bar in Sparks hotel had some nice Indo dancers on stage going topless.
Pen J Sari Ayu.
Not a lot to do in a place like Kota during the day when your not mongering. I make my way through Lokasari plaza and catch a Bajaj to the bars clubs down Pen J. Bajaj fare was 15,000 Rupiah.
Sari Ayu is just opening and the guy inside is keen I take a girl. He introduces me to this real slim young Java beauty and I have to take her. The short time rooms in Sari Ayu are small and a little dirty but I make do.
The girl gives excellent service, I leave a happy monger.
Stadium.
That night I enjoy some topless dancing in the lounge bar at the Stadium disco and hotel. House girls not see anything special. The disco night club in Stadium was very impressive, but I not have a second pop.
Blok M.
My final day and night mongering in Jakarta I want to get out of Kota. So take blue bird taxi to central Jakarta and plaza Indonesia. Later I take a second taxi to Blok M, south Jakarta to experience the bars down Palatehan.
Both taxi fares were around 50,000 Rupiah. The most lively bars in Blok M, were Top Gun and D's Place, the other bars were empty almost. The bars down Blok M have lots of Indonesian freelancers inside them.
Most alot older than the girls working in Kota and most have children to support. These bars are also popular with Western expats. I got some really good offers in both bars for threesomes long time back at my hotel in Kota.
Eventually I settle on two girls in Top Gun and take them back to Kota all night for 700, 000 Rupiah total. Good girls, well behaved, did whatever I wanted to do.
Summary.
Really enjoyed mongering in Jakarta, lots of cheap quality pussy on offer in Kota. Not much to do in the day though, Its difficult to get around due to there being no MTR and the city is one big traffic jam.
Alcohol is expensive. Local food is very tasty and cheap. Hotels were very good and reasonable priced in Kota. Be careful to avoid Ramadah as most bars shut, I was leaving one week before the onset of Ramadan.
If you like Asian girls with more curves, Indonesian girls have it all, often called the latinas of Asia. Most girls I had were natural down below too which I also love on Asian girls.
Indonesians were friendly and helpful, no problem with muslim culture and could get by with minimal English.
EastCoast11
09-10-13, 00:01
Fellow mongers,
Can anyone advise a good, girl friendly hotel with nice pool in N. Jakarta?
As a newbie thinking of first trip in mid October. Would rather stay close to hotel for action, if hotel has bar / club also preferable.
Fellow mongers,
Can anyone advise a good, girl friendly hotel with nice pool in N. Jakarta?
As a newbie thinking of first trip in mid October. Would rather stay close to hotel for action, if hotel has bar / club also preferable.I recommend the Shangri-La which is in central Jakarta-not north. It has a great pool. BATS nightclub is in the basement. It has great-looking girls. It is a five-star hotel and guest-friendly.
Canyon
SirMarjAlot
09-10-13, 08:06
Fellow mongers,
Can anyone advise a good, girl friendly hotel with nice pool in N. Jakarta?
As a newbie thinking of first trip in mid October. Would rather stay close to hotel for action, if hotel has bar / club also preferable.The Sparks hotel and the Mecure are both good in north Jakarta.
Which is closed to Top Gun and the M-Block bars? Le Meridien or Shangri-La.
Last time I stayed in the Le Meridien. But this time want to try Shangri-La and Bats below. Though I would suspect that girls in Bats would charge much more than ones from Top Gun.
Is that a correct conclusion?
Sorry. The message below should have read "which is closer".
Thanks for feedback
Though I would suspect that girls in Bats would charge much more than ones from Top Gun.
Is that a correct conclusion?Kind of. As many visitors to both establishments know, while it's true that you will be asked for more in BATS than in Top Gun, it's often exactly the same girls! It's possible that the most successful girls at BATS almost always score, but many don't, or don't always. So, they go to Top Gun afterwards, where they'll accept half the price. Admittedly, it's a bit of a left over sale, but still. At about two or three in the morning, it's even possible that the ones who didn't score in Top Gun will make their way to Jalan Jaksa for a few drinks at Memories. While they will probably have resigned themselves to not finding anyone by that stage, they will still take a client for a further discount. I had a girl at Berlian, which is one of the cheaper bordellos in Kota, say that she often went to BATS on the weekend. In Jakarta, with so many things, it's not what you buy, it's where you buy it that determines the price.
Which is closed to Top Gun and the M-Block bars? Le Meridien or Shangri-La.
Last time I stayed in the Le Meridien. But this time want to try Shangri-La and Bats below. Though I would suspect that girls in Bats would charge much more than ones from Top Gun.
Is that a correct conclusion?Le Meridien is a bit closer to Top Gun and the other Blok M bars, but it doesn't make much difference since both are in central Jakarta, while Blok M is in the south. Girls at BATS are better-looking and charge more. Although some BATS girls may move on to Top Gun, I think the two groups are different.
Traveler1234
09-10-13, 13:55
I recommend the Shangri-La which is in central Jakarta-not north. It has a great pool. BATS nightclub is in the basement. It has great-looking girls. It is a five-star hotel and guest-friendly. CanyonWe're waiting to read your FR!
When are you actually visiting -- so that we can get a FR?OK, Traveler. Here's my take on Jakarta. My favorite bordello in Jakarta is Hotel Alexis in north Jakarta. You go up to the 7th floor and there are maybe a hundred girls all nicely dressed in evening gowns. You can sit down at a table, order a drink and watch them. They are in different groups with different color gowns. For example, all the Vietnamese girls sit together and have white gowns on, the Indonesians sit together and have blue gowns, the Chinese have red gowns, Thai girls have their own color, etc. Most of them are very attractive. You can ask for a line-up of any group or go over and look at them. Prices are relatively high by Indonesian standards. Indonesian girls charge 1. 3 million rupiah (about $115 US) , Vietnamese are 2 million rupiah and I think Thai and Chinese were about the same. In general, I would go for the Indonesians, since there are a lot of pretty ones and the lower price means a better value. However, I picked a Vietnamese for 2 million, because she had a nice smile, a nice body and was really cute. Once you pick a girl, you both go to your respective locker rooms and change clothes-girls into bikinis and guys into shorts and a short robe. For up to 25 minutes, you both go into the big Jacuzzi with other couples and she gives you a light massage in the water and you play around a bit. Then, it's off to the room, which is nice. You shower, then hit the bed. Service for me was pretty good, but not great. She had nice skin, a pretty face and a very good body. Take-out to your hotel is available, but it's three times the price of in-call. Alexis is the most expensive one I visited. Most of the others were 350, 000 to 800, 000 rupiah, but the girls were better at Alexis. For me, the price difference was worth it. At 1. 3 million, that's only about $115 which is not much by Western standards, so that's what I recommend for better girls and nicer facilities. Of course, for $35, you can get an hour with someone perfectly acceptable, so bargain-hunters will want to go in a different direction. I also liked Alexis, because the music is soft and you can hear yourself think.
Hotel Classic is a bargain by comparison-350, 000 rupiah plus 100, 00 tip for a total of 450, 000 for one hour. It's one-third the price of an Indonesian girl at Alexis. Classic has no take-out-only in-call. I didn't care too much for Classic. Facilities were not as nice as Alexis and the music was way too loud for my tastes. It was just not as comfortable. Most of the girls here were fairly plain. There were more than a hundred girls available, but I only saw three or four that I thought were cute. Classic was not my cup of tea, but it may be a great deal for bargain-hunters.
The same thing applies to Stadium. There's a third floor bordello and a fourth floor disco. Music was way too loud for me. Girls were rather plain for the most part. There were a couple of cute ones, but most of the girls looked bored, so I didn't think they would be much fun. Price of 325, 000 plus 100, 000 tip is a bargain, but I would rather pay up for quality.
The girls at Malioboro were better than Stadium or Classic, but not as good as Alexis. Again, music was too loud for me. I was tempted to take one of them, but in the end, I passed. There is a 125, 000 entry fee, which cannot be applied to service. Girls in the wine bar cost 400, 000. A few were young and cute, but they looked bored. The girls in the lounge cost 800, 000 or 1 million, depending on quality. Some dancers are available, but cost 1. 4 million. Take-out is available for three times the price of in-call.
The only hotel bar I visited was BATS (Bar at the Shangri-La). Here again, the music was too loud and lights were so dim that I had a hard time focusing on my target. I regretted my first night's pick, as she was a little too heavy for me, and her features looked better in the dark than in the light. I should have taken more time and been more careful, but I was tired and agreed to a female that came over and hugged me right away. I did not get a good look at the others.
I was much more successful the second night. I spent about half an hour looking around, seeing who was available. After a while, my eyes adjusted to the dark, and I could make out figures and features with the help of the flashing lights. There were probably about 50 girls there, and I found at least a dozen that were relatively attractive. A few were even more attractive than the average Alexis girl, but most were not. In any case, there were enough lookers around to capture my interest. My eyes focused on one slim, young lady with Chinese features and a nice smile. She was wearing a very pretty form-fitting gown that was low-cut and hit her legs about mid-thigh. She looked delicious with a pretty face. She accepted my invitation to step away from the dance floor, so we could talk in relative quiet. After my previous night's mistake in the dark, I looked her over carefully, and she was, in fact, beautiful, sexy and had a slim body. She was also articulate and had a good sense of humor. I couldn't believe my good fortune. She asked for $150 US and I didn't bargain her down. At $150, she was a great value. We went upstairs to my room, and the session was great-very erotic and satisfying. It was also fun, because of her intelligence and sense of humor. I arranged another rendez-vous the following evening. It turned out that she was not Chinese, but pure Indonesian. The session was so good that I gave her $200.
That's my report! I hope you find it useful.
Traveler1234
09-10-13, 14:28
OK, Traveler.
That's my report! I hope you find it useful.Sounds you're having a good time, which is the most important thing.
BTW, you're overpaying at BATS. But as well as know, YMMV.
Enjoy the rest of your stay.
Member #4698
09-10-13, 15:11
Canyon, I enjoyed reading your concise very interesting trip report. I am all geared up for my first trip to Jakarta in late February. I have been doing my homework for some time and Hotel Alexis and the Malioboro Spa are at the top of my list. I also want to check out Bats, Hotel Travel, Classic Hotel, and Blok M if time permits, but I am going to leave myself open to whatever happens. For example, I plan to start my odyssey the first night at the Alexis. If I find that the girls in Alexis are really hot and my time spent there is indeed rewarding, then I will probably want to visit the place a couple more times. On the other hand, if my experience at Alexis is just OK – nothing really outstanding, then that will give me more incentive to check out the other establishments. I am staying 6 nights in Jakarta, so I figure I will get around to at least 3 or 4 places on my list. I am not going to try to do everything. That is impossible. But if I like Jakarta as much as I think I am going to like it, this will not be my last trip.
I am staying for free at the JW. Thank you Marriott Rewards.
I have a question about Alexis and Malioboro: when is the best time to go? I am assuming around 7pm is a good time to take a taxi from the Marriott.
Traveler1234
09-10-13, 16:00
I have been doing my homework for some time and Hotel Alexis and the Malioboro Spa are at the top of my list. I also want to check out Bats, Hotel Travel, Classic Hotel, and Blok M if time permits, but I am going to leave myself open to whatever happens.Keep in mind Alexis and Malioboro Spa are high-end whereas Hotel Travel and Classic Hotel are mid-end. The former more like your Macau sauna experiences.
BATS and Blok M are about same. They just try to charge at Bats.
Member #4698
09-10-13, 17:02
Keep in mind Alexis and Malioboro Spa are high-end whereas Hotel Travel and Classic Hotel are mid-end. The former more like your Macau sauna experiences.Sounds really good to me. Actually I am foremost looking forward to hooking up with some beautiful and passionate Indonesian girls while I am in Jakarta. They are at the top of my list although I am sure I can be swayed if I see some beautiful PRC girls at Hotel Alexis. Anyway, I am going to visit Macau later in my trip after BKK and Phnom Penh so I know I am going to be spending time some luscious Chinese girls soon enough and so there is no need to go gaga over them in Jakarta. In Jakarta, Indo girls are my #1 target.
I hear what you are saying about Classic Hotel, but those Terminal 5:8/1hr sessions with any of the Classic girls between 6pm-3am for 600k sounds sick. I think I have to go over there and see what it is all about and if the girls are worthy. It reminds me of one of those Texas eat our famous 76 once steak in an hour and it is free kind of deals. I don't think I can do 8 girls in 8 hours, but it might be fun to see how far I get provided the girls are friendly and attractive.
BATS and Blok M are about same. They just try to charge at Bats.As to Bats and Blok M, it sounds like a similar situation in Singapore with Brix and the OT. After a night at the Alexis, I think I might want to stop by Blok M on the way back to my hotel for a late night nightcap and see what's up or something. Bats on the other hand, sounds like a bar I would start my night out with after dinner and see what happens. One thing for sure, I am not going to go to Bats and pay Bats prices for any girl less than stunner quality. It goes without saying.
Anyway, as you can see, I am practically salivating in anticipation of my trip to Jakarta. After all my trips to South East Asia, it feels great to be on the verge of hitting a new and as yet undiscovered by me fertile hunting ground. From my limited experience with Indonesian girls that I met in Batam, Hong Kong, Macau, and Amsterdam, this should be one humdinger of a trip.
EastCoast11
09-10-13, 17:49
OK, Traveler. Here's my take on Jakarta. My favorite bordello in Jakarta is Hotel Alexis in north Jakarta. You go up to the 7th floor and there are maybe a hundred girls all nicely dressed in evening gowns. You can sit down at a table, order a drink and watch them. They are in different groups with different color gowns. For example, all the Vietnamese girls sit together and have white gowns on, the Indonesians sit together and have blue gowns, the Chinese have red gowns, Thai girls have their own color, etc. Most of them are very attractive. You can ask for a line-up of any group or go over and look at them. Prices are relatively high by Indonesian standards. Indonesian girls charge 1. 3 million rupiah (about $115 US) , Vietnamese are 2 million rupiah and I think Thai and Chinese were about the same. In general, I would go for the Indonesians, since there are a lot of pretty ones and the lower price means a better value. However, I picked a Vietnamese for 2 million, because she had a nice smile, a nice body and was really cute. Once you pick a girl, you both go to your respective locker rooms and change clothes-girls into bikinis and guys into shorts and a short robe. For up to 25 minutes, you both go into the big Jacuzzi with other couples and she gives you a light massage in the water and you play around a bit. Then, it's off to the room, which is nice. You shower, then hit the bed. Service for me was pretty good, but not great. She had nice skin, a pretty face and a very good body. Take-out to your hotel is available, but it's three times the price of in-call. Alexis is the most expensive one I visited. Most of the others were 350, 000 to 800, 000 rupiah, but the girls were better at Alexis. For me, the price difference was worth it. At 1. 3 million, that's only about $115 which is not much by Western standards, so that's what I recommend for better girls and nicer facilities. Of course, for $35, you can get an hour with someone perfectly acceptable, so bargain-hunters will want to go in a different direction...Canyon,
You mentioned you went to Bats at Shangri-La, . Did you also get a hotel room there? If so, what was the price / night and also your session with the girl- the price you paid was it for over night?
Traveler1234
09-10-13, 18:00
Sounds really good to me. Actually I am foremost looking forward to hooking up with some beautiful and passionate Indonesian girls while I am in Jakarta. They are at the top of my list although I am sure I can be swayed if I see some beautiful PRC girls at Hotel Alexis.Right on . When in Rome, do what the Romans do. The local ceweks are great fun. And Travel/Classic better value, IMHO.
Learn some simple Bahasa and it will go a long way. Enjoy!
The Sparks hotel and the Mecure are both good in north Jakarta.Mercure kota is gf and the inhouse masseuses are FS orientated. They ask at start or after 20 mins so you don't go unnecessary in the 2nd hour. First time I had a gorgeous 8/10 cute 21 why old. Agreed on 700k all include (hotel massage too which was excellent for 30 mins). Didn't negotiate longtime but considering the hotel upper mid-range segment quite a good deal (although guess you could get to 500-600k). No need for transport. Only time cheaper I got was in orchadz for 400k which they normally don't do as they have their spa. I knew the girl from the spa; so she got the same 300k as in the spa where a full package is 680k.
2nd time in kota I was so stupid not to message the 1st girl. I got an "older" lady. Cost 500k for BBBJ and a HJ. Well maintained. Good face and boobs but wouldn't want all whifh she knew.
Hotel Classic is a bargain by comparison-350, 000 rupiah plus 100, 00 tip for a total of 450, 000 for one hour.I know the location of Hotel Travel. But where is Hotel Classic please?
Is there again any action in Lokasari Plaza?
How is the action nowadays at BintangMawar?
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The Massage girl from Mercure Kota girl stay also for LT?I doubt so. Atlhough the first shift go home at 15:00. In many accor hotel chains its forbidden to enter or stay in guestrooms if you work there. I used ro date the GRO at a similar hotel. One time she sneak in but I noticed she was uncomfortable. So I picked a similar hotel closeby. Also more discrete when I dated another one at the same time. My guess counts for the masseuses to. Any other girl you bring in is fine. On a side note spa in grand mercure (and inroom massage) offers FS to but it is onthe expensive side. In novotel only some of them do. The problem is they know how much you pay for the room. If you go opposite of the street of novotel (kota) by taking the pedestrian bridge you will have some ladys calling thenselves mamasan and offering girls. Haven't tried but should be much cheaper and LT. (Close to pizzahut / the aryaduta or jayakarta hotel? Well only1 big hotel there can't recall the name. You will see many taxis on standby. My guess is that they sell the suncity thai / Chinese ones for a better price.
Prestigejy
09-11-13, 10:22
I know the location of Hotel Travel. But where is Hotel Classic please?
Is there again any action in Lokasari Plaza?
How is the action nowadays at BintangMawar?There are some street "ayam" at night at Lokasari Plaza. Just beware of "wani" ladyboy.
Canyon,
You mentioned you went to Bats at Shangri-La, . Did you also get a hotel room there? If so, what was the price / night and also your session with the girl- the price you paid was it for over night?I stayed at the Shangri-La. It's a 5-star hotel, so a room runs about $300 per night. The $150 I paid was for two hours and included a nice massage, a wonderful BBBJ and sex in several positions.
Canyon, I enjoyed reading your concise very interesting trip report. I am all geared up for my first trip to Jakarta in late February. I have been doing my homework for some time and Hotel Alexis and the Malioboro Spa are at the top of my list. I also want to check out Bats, Hotel Travel, Classic Hotel, and Blok M if time permits, but I am going to leave myself open to whatever happens. For example, I plan to start my odyssey the first night at the Alexis. If I find that the girls in Alexis are really hot and my time spent there is indeed rewarding, then I will probably want to visit the place a couple more times. On the other hand, if my experience at Alexis is just OK – nothing really outstanding, then that will give me more incentive to check out the other establishments. I am staying 6 nights in Jakarta, so I figure I will get around to at least 3 or 4 places on my list. I am not going to try to do everything. That is impossible. But if I like Jakarta as much as I think I am going to like it, this will not be my last trip.
I am staying for free at the JW. Thank you Marriott Rewards.
I have a question about Alexis and Malioboro: when is the best time to go? I am assuming around 7pm is a good time to take a taxi from the Marriott.Natty,
Both Alexis and Malioboro are open in the early afternoon. However, I think your plan to go around 7 pm is a good one.
Canyon
I know the location of Hotel Travel. But where is Hotel Classic please?
Is there again any action in Lokasari Plaza?
How is the action nowadays at BintangMawar?Hotel Classic is in north Jakarta not too far from Malioboro or Hotel Travel, The exact address is KH Samanhuudi 43-45 Pasar Baru Sawah.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;
BTW, you're overpaying at BATS. But as well as know, YMMV.
Enjoy the rest of your stay.[/QUOTE]Traveler,
I don't think you're clear on the concept, or at least, we have different views on the subject. There is no one set price at BATS, so you really can't make a judgment on what's overpaying or what's not overpaying without knowing who the girl is. There is a wide range of women at BATS ranging from an overweight "plain Jane" in her late 30's to a beautiful 22-year old stunner with a great personality. Clearly, the prices are very different for these two individuals, so saying that someone overpaid based on a certain dollar figure makes no sense at all, if you don't know who the girl is. I think the goal of any sensible person is to get the most pleasure out of sex-not to get the lowest price possible. In my situation, paying $150 instead of $100 is irrelevant, because the extra $50 is not very much by western standards. It's much more important to have a great experience. I've found that you get much better service if you're generous than if you fight for the last dollar. In my situation, the $150 I paid for the 22-year old stunner who gave great service and had a great personality was a great value and was not overpayment in any sense of the word.
By comparison, one would pay about $200 for one-hour service at Alexis for a good-looking Vietnamese, Chinese or Thai. For only $150, I had twice as much time with the stunner who was more attractive than most of the women at Alexis. I think when you post that someone overpaid, you're giving people the wrong idea on how to enjoy themselves. The idea is not to pay the least, but to get the most enjoyment.
Traveler1234
09-11-13, 14:08
Traveler, I don't think you're clear on the concept, or at least, we have different views on the subject. The idea is not to pay the least, but to get the most enjoyment.
No flame intended but......
1. Before your trip, you asked multiple times for pricing guidelines. Which many of us shared with you.
2. These are guidelines, and only that.
3. In my last post, I said the same thing you are now saying. Enjoyment is the key.
You merely paid the retail price, not the street / market price. In fact, you paid full retail plus a premium at BATS. You're right, by western standards $150 isn't much but than again you're in Rome and not LA. It's your money. It's like pay private escort prices for picking up someone at Nana Parking Lot. Next time just don't waste your time and ask 'how much is the street price'.
And just for the record, those 20+ stunners can be had for under $100 and LT, but again YMMV. Enjoy the rest of your stay in Jakarta and have fun!
No flame intended but.
1. Before your trip, you asked multiple times for pricing guidelines. Which many of us shared with you.
2. These are guidelines, and only that.
3. In my last post, I said the same thing you are now saying. Enjoyment is the key.
You merely paid the retail price, not the street / market price. In fact, you paid full retail plus a premium at BATS. You're right, by western standards $150 isn't much but than again you're in Rome and not LA. It's your money. It's like pay private escort prices for picking up someone at Nana Parking Lot. Next time just don't waste your time and ask 'how much is the street price'.
And just for the record, those 20+ stunners can be had for under $100 and LT, but again YMMV. Enjoy the rest of your stay in Jakarta and have fun!atCanyon: Its your money and ofcourse anyone is free to do as he want. But it does affect all the rest of us; well I will not speak for anyone so I will say it does affect me. Perhaps she won't settle that easy when I negotiate next time. Or her friends will try to. Overpaying does exist. As to much money doesn't always makes the service better. I admit I overpay several times but thats more out of negotiation weakness then out of full free choice. I just want to say a good negotation will not necessarily change the service you get and benefit other people like me. Up to you.
atCanyon: Its your money and ofcourse anyone is free to do as he want. But it does affect all the rest of us; well I will not speak for anyone so I will say it does affect me. Perhaps she won't settle that easy when I negotiate next time. Or her friends will try to. Overpaying does exist. As to much money doesn't always makes the service better. I admit I overpay several times but thats more out of negotiation weakness then out of full free choice. I just want to say a good negotation will not necessarily change the service you get and benefit other people like me. Up to you.Medanboy,
I have a different view. I don't think it's my responsibility to hold down the prices for you. You're on your own. If a girl can command more money for her services, I say "congratulations." I believe in a free market economy, where each individual is free to sell her services or for a man to purchase her services. Whatever they agree on is fine. I don't believe in price-fixing-I. E. Guys joining together to hold down prices or girls joining together to hold up prices. Each person should make the best deal for herself or himself. If a girl can get more money out of you and you agree to it, that's fine with me. Also, if you can get a girl for less money, that's fine with me, too.
My experience has been that hard bargaining can take some of the pleasure out of the session. If a girl quotes me a price that is reasonable, I take it without negotiation. It works better that way for me. If I think it's way too high, I decline. Sometimes she'll make a reduced offer that I may accept. If the amounts are not significant, I rarely drive a hard bargain. It's not worth it to me.
Before I go in, I like to have some idea of the market price or at least the range. That's why I asked Traveler what the going rates were and he was very helpful. That doesn't mean that I won't pay more than the average rate if I think the quality is there. Face, body and personality are all important to me. Also very important is chemistry. If we have a lot of rapport, I may pay somewhat above the average rate, just because I like her.
There's also the concept of the marginal utility of money. What this means is that an extra dollar to me is worth less than it would be worth to a girl in Jakarta. So $50 extra to me would not be significant, but it would be to her. To maximize pleasure for her, I'm happy to pay more, since the extra money that I pay will not reduce my pleasure significantly. I find that it makes me happier to treat other people well.
Robert Long
09-12-13, 07:53
Medanboy,
I have a different view. I don't think it's my responsibility to hold down the prices for you. You're on your own. If a girl can command more money for her services, I say "congratulations." I believe in a free market economy, where each individual is free to sell her services or for a man to purchase her services. Whatever they agree on is fine. I don't believe in price-fixing-I. E. Guys joining together to hold down prices or girls joining together to hold up prices. Each person should make the best deal for herself or himself. If a girl can get more money out of you and you agree to it, that's fine with me. Also, if you can get a girl for less money, that's fine with me, too.
My experience has been that hard bargaining can take some of the pleasure out of the session. If a girl quotes me a price that is reasonable, I take it without negotiation. It works better that way for me. If I think it's way too high, I decline. Sometimes she'll make a reduced offer that I may accept. If the amounts are not significant, I rarely drive a hard bargain. It's not worth it to me.
Before I go in, I like to have some idea of the market price or at least the range. That's why I asked Traveler what the going rates were and he was very helpful. That doesn't mean that I won't pay more than the average rate if I think the quality is there. Face, body and personality are all important to me. Also very important is chemistry. If we have a lot of rapport, I may pay somewhat above the average rate, just because I like her.
There's also the concept of the marginal utility of money. What this means is that an extra dollar to me is worth less than it would be worth to a girl in Jakarta. So $50 extra to me would not be significant, but it would be to her. To maximize pleasure for her, I'm happy to pay more, since the extra money that I pay will not reduce my pleasure significantly. I find that it makes me happier to treat other people well.I decided on this exact approach in my buying items for import many years ago. If it is not out of the ball park and will make the supplier feel better about his product and his profit then it is a win-win situation for both parties. The same applies to the quality of the WG. You get what you pay for.
RL
There's also the concept of the marginal utility of money. What this means is that an extra dollar to me is worth less than it would be worth to a girl in Jakarta. So $50 extra to me would not be significant, but it would be to her.I neither work on a drilling rig nor as gambling broker. For me 50-$ is a significant amount and not a small tip.
Remember: Enron, Lehman Bros, WorldCom did glamour over a short period only. Wish you enjoy the time you still got and don't flash your fortune: it does not impress anyone. Not even the girls. Most are too pragmatic to see in a big spender a great lover but soemone who can be taken for a ride.
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The same applies to the quality of the WG. You get what you pay for.With pros from escort services: Yes, probably, but absolutely not necessarily with FLs.
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Most are too pragmatic to see in a big spender a great lover but soemone who can be taken for a ride.Well put, Botaki6.
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Perhaps she won't settle that easy when I negotiate next time. Or her friends will try to. Overpaying does exist. As too much money doesn't always makes the service better.Well put, Medanboy.
Besides, I don't think western market 'rules' necessarily apply on street level in poor countries.
/Barri
Traveler1234
09-12-13, 13:34
I have a different view. I don't think it's my responsibility to hold down the prices for you.I agree.
My experience has been that hard bargaining can take some of the pleasure out of the session.
If a girl quotes me a price that is reasonable, I take it without negotiation. It works better that way for me. If I think it's way too high, I decline. Sometimes she'll make a reduced offer that I may accept. If the amounts are not significant, I rarely drive a hard bargain. It's not worth it to me.
I also agree, but there is a difference BTW hard bargaining and merely 'smiling and saying, how come so high? '. They had you picked as a newbie, LOL.
There's also the concept of the marginal utility of money. What this means is that an extra dollar to me is worth less than it would be worth to a girl in Jakarta. So $50 extra to me would not be significant, but it would be to her. To maximize pleasure for her, I'm happy to pay more, since the extra money that I pay will not reduce my pleasure significantly.Yep, you sure made her financially happy! But in no way means you get better or worse service.
Apologies in breaking the flow of recent posts.
This is my first time in Jk and I thought I'd post on my first day's sex-perience for other noobs to learn from.
Taxi-tastic.
Right off the plane things started to go wrong. These guys can see noobs or soft touches and I must be the poster boy. Taxi hawkers descend like a plague of locusts. I rebuff with a smile and a laugh and say I want only bluebird taxi, meter taxi. I RTFF you see, thanks all for those pearls BTW, spot on. I should have written it down instead of just mentally recording the good taxis. It's about 9:30 pm after a long flight and I'm exhausted. They know it. I wait in line for bluebird, there is a que. The hawkers know I want to get the f out ASAP.
"Hey mista you want silver bird taxi?"
Silver bird? That sounds like one of the safe companies. Is it meter taxi?" yes meter" I'm walking with him. How much is it to the city?" about 200, 000" right there I think shit that's the scam they're skimming 50, 000. Fuck it, I'm tired and I want to get to hotel, shower and get some feminine attention. I get in the silver bird black merc taxi. Alarm bell 2. A Mercedes taxi. Alarm bell 3 the driver sets the meter up and it already shows 150, 000. That's the total price from bluebird. Shit, I'm in a scam situation but we re moving on the express way. The meter is ticking up waaaay too fast, we are only a km or so down, not even to the toll booths and the meter says 600, 000! Fuck this. I'm already planning that this is going to go bad, I speak no Indonesian at all, I've got no back up, I don't know where I am.
"Err. Meter, meter too much 600, 000 too much, it should be 150, 000 to city"
We get into an argument with him saying why I chose silver bird that's blue bird price etc. So I went into very sorry very sorry I'm tired I made a mistake, I told him I only have 200, 000 on me, I haven't been to the bank because the Internet said the taxi would be x amount. Very sorry. I'll get out. Stop. I made him pull over on the hard shoulder of the expressway and was going to get out. He calls his head on the radio. They're talking. This is where I think I'm truly fucked. Either they bail me out and I have to hitch hike, or I get roughed over by a gang. So I sit with my head in my hands resigned to it. Then I offer him to stop the meter and pay he driver 200, 000 everything I have (it's not but I figure an extra 5 dollars might get this shit over with). He bites, we are on our way again. Phew. We get the hotel. I pay 200, 000 then bizarrely he says sorry for the misunderstanding on the highway and gives me 20, 000 change. Yeah he's smiling tho, maybe he just wanted to fuck with a whitey, feel superior, whatever, I'm here, only 3 dollars out of pocket and I got a ride in a merc! First for me! (I'm scum you see).
What do you guys make of that? I thought maybe that was the game, just squeeze an extra 50, 000 each time by scaring the passenger into forcing an agreed settlement to get off the crazy meter figure.
Part 2 of my sex-perience soon. In this episode I visit illegals and stadium and have my first ever indo girl!
"Hey mista you want silver bird taxi?"Very surprised to hear of your experience with Silver Bird. They are indeed more expensive than regular taxis, almost double, but the cars are considerably better and the drivers are usually experienced and polite. They are operated by the same company as Blue Bird as their "premium" line. You said that the meter was already at Rp150k as soon as you got in. Now, with crappy taxis, it's not unknown for the driver to leave the meter on before a passenger gets in and then "forget" to reset it, but it would be most unusual for a Silver or Blue Bird to do that. Not impossible, but very unusual. I think what happened is that the meter showed 15, 000 (which is what the Silver starts at) , but you were slightly jet-lagged and saw the extra zero. The other possibility is that the taxi was not really a Silver Bird. The drivers usually don't just go up to people and offer their services, there's a special queue. These days, I don't usually consider Silvers worth the extra price, although I'll take them from the airport after a long flight if it means jumping the queue over the people lining up for a blue.
If you think airport taxis are bad now, you should have been here ten years ago. Used to be a major effort to find one that would use a meter. These days most of them will, with a bit of persuasion. If they start groaning and moaning and asking for unrealistic sums, I just ask them to use the meter and tell them I'll give them a good tip. An extra thirty or so from the airport usually results in a satisfied smile. Maybe you're right, maybe they can smell the newcomer -- where you're REALLY going to have fun is when you pick up a taxi outside Stadium, the Blok M clubs, or somewhere like that. Those places are the last vestige of the old "President Taxi" system, where the drivers thought that if the girl you were with is going to get a few hundred thousand for the night, then they should share in the financial benefits for providing transportation.
EDIT: The fact that the driver actually had a radio and gave you some change at the end makes me think it was really a Silver. 180k would be about right from the airport to North Jakarta. Next time, if you're feeling generous, let him keep the change for 200k. Also, you have to pay the tolls yourself and there's an official surcharge from the airport, something like 15k. Drivers ***** because they say they have to wait there for hours before they get a passenger. I don't get that, myself, but they do feel entitled to a bit extra for going to the airport.
EXTRA EDIT: Haha! I can't say the "driver b1tched". Nice to see the administrator of ISG taking such care to prevent foul language. Almost like being at Church, isn't it?
Took one of my regulars to Singapore for a weekend. Way too much whining. But she has a fantastic body and oh so tight. A 50 year old with a 20 year old girlfriend. Most did not even notice. Got to love Asia.
I agree that you most likely had a silverbird. That is a normal fare to the north side. I have noticed a bit more of a crush at the airport with Express offering a stand and being approached by white horse. I negotiated a price with white horse twice and was very happy. A car as nice as silverbird and about 25% discount. No meter but made sure that the price was what was listed.
One more item: Google maps now has traffic on it and I find it is accurate to within 100 meters for areas of heavy traffic. Really helpful in Jakarta traffic.
I agree that you most likely had a silverbird. That is a normal fare to the north side. I have noticed a bit more of a crush at the airport with Express offering a stand and being approached by white horse. I negotiated a price with white horse twice and was very happy. A car as nice as silverbird and about 25% discount. No meter but made sure that the price was what was listed.
One more item: Google maps now has traffic on it and I find it is accurate to within 100 meters for areas of heavy traffic. Really helpful in Jakarta traffic.Personally I just go up to the departure level and take one of the bluebirds who dropped someone off. Last time however as the bluebird I chose seened to be parking the security took out his name / photo plate and didn't want to give it back for a small fee. We drove off and tge driver said we gad to do a small circle so he could get it bit back. I said no I get out. No problem and he stopped another empty bluebird for me. Quite kind. Guess it is the risk they willing to take. Happened 1 in 15 timed. Never had to wait more then 5 seconds.
Hi again,
Yeah now that I'm over the jet lag and can think about the situation it must have been me being a bit "hyper aware" of being ripped off and seeing an extra zero. After the argument when we were back on the road I did notice the guy fiddle with the meter for a second or two and then later, about 5 min when I looked back the meter seemed to be reading correctly and also advancing up correctly. The weird thing with the experience was the rate the meter was clicking up, seriously I was watching the meter jump 20,000 rupiah every 20 seconds! I don't know. So silver bird are a series of black pimped out mercs right?
Anyway I'll crack on with my main post about the mongering scene as I experienced it.
Firstly, I would like to point out that I am a total newbie to the Jakarta scene. But I must say, while very different to Thailand and also Cambodia, I love it. Why? I can have a threesome with two 20-something slim buxom Javanese honeys for 60 dollars and that includes ST room and the damn drinks for me and the girls! It's insane. (Travel hotel BTW).
DAY 1.
Right, after the debacle of my taxi ride I'm now settled in the Mercure Kota as per mongerplanet advice. Good work matey. It's fine. Big room, clean, comfy bed. Great view from window. Downside is the aircon is pretty noisy, it doesn't bother me but would light sleepers.
I dump my gear, shower change and head out. It is about 10:30pm. There were two closely places I had pegged to try out as I imagined it would be too late to get to any other places so late on. Illegals and stadium. From Mercure U-turn left and head about 300 meters down the main drag. When you see a Starbucks you've gone about 20 meters too far. You have to turn left into a car park driveway and head around the back side of the complex. I go into the bar / club. Inside it is dark, loud and dead. There is a funky terminator figure in the middle of the room but zero girls. I drink a beer hoping the situation might change. It doesn't. I guess this is just a normal bar? Anyway it was totally dead and naff so I left.
Stadium. I go in and head to the live music bar not the disco. I pay the 40,000 entry fee and enter. Bang, girls dancing on stage in things with their tits out. I know that from now on everything is going to be just fine. Phew. May I just say at this point that these Indonesian girls do have exceptionally exquisite breasts. And I'm not even a breast man (dyed in the wool botty fanatic) oh but did I forget to mention they have rumps too? Defo the Latinas of the east. Yummy.
Anyway I get ushered to the bar stool and grab a beer. Dancing girls come over and poke and prod and pout trying to get a drink from you. You can feel them up if you do but call me old fashioned, I'm just not comfy doing that in front of others, let alone in front of a room full of indo blokes who are looking my way because I'm the only whitey. Bit later mamas an plonks a girl next to me. Not bad, quite shy, pale skin, big jugs. We get chatting (not really, her English s basic, my bhasa nil). I think, yeah she'll do the job for tonight as I'm tired and maybe trying some big jugs might be a change of pace. Mamas an comes over and wants 1. 8 million. Haha! I literally laugh from shock, I say no, too much, no thanks. I don't even try to negotiate. I'm horny but not desperate. Girl disappears. I'm on my own for a bit more watching the dancers who are now totally naked.
It's nice to watch but the girls do seem awfully coy about being up there naked, I can't say I blame them. It's all a bit wishy washy. I'd rather watch lovely sexy girls dance clothed and comfortable with their sexiness tbh. That is what would sell more IMO, there would be a buzz about the place. Shut up I hear you cry, get to nasty-ness. All in good time reader.
Mamas an brings over (or should I say forces a girl onto me) another one. Cuter still buxom. Almost zero English but cute. Mamas an says ok this one 325 or 345 (can't remember exactly) including room. That's more like it. I have a beer and a think. Ok I say, so we go to the pay desk and I put it on my card (how good is that! You can put this stuff on credit, hahaha eat that credit crunch). Get to a ST room in a warren of corridors and rooms. On the way we hear sex noises from the other patrons and have a giggle. She's pretty giggly, I like them when they're like that. In the room, it's down to business, she gives me a proper soap up and shower and then sorts herself out. It was pretty un sexy having to watch a girl squat in the shower and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) / douche herself out. At one point I was watching her with her foot up over her head braced against the shower wall while she was cleaning herself out. That would have been less amusing were I not jet-lagged and a bit drunk let me assure you.
"The deed" I shall spare you of other than to say she was very nice and enthusiastic. Great tits and ass. Bit of a stocky thick frame but lovely none the less. They have lovely smooth skin. Color or tone does not bother me one jot, I can't understand these guys who get into the white vs dark skin, better girls rubbish. If she's got a nice botty, attitude and cute I close my checklist.
I think the total for stadium that night was something like:
Entry 40,000.
Drinks x 2 beers maybe 75,000 each bit pricey there.
Girl, room 345,000.
Girl tip 100,000.
You can't beat that for value for money! It's insane, I don't ever need to go back to Bangkok again!
Part 3. Hotel travel and my first ever threesome.
Comments welcome.
On my last day in Jakarta, I decided to try Sun City-an upscale place which is not suitable for bargain-hunters. It's located in Kota in north Jakarta. I have some reservations about recommending it, but I must say that it was a great experience-one of the best sessions I've had in a long time. There are a lot of restrictions and rules I learned and this is problematic. First of all, they have a lounge, but I went to the spa. You can sign up for a massage, which can turn into full sex if you negotiate a deal with the masseuse. One wrinkle is that if you pick an Indonesian, there is no line-up. They bring you a girl and you can exchange her twice if you're not satisfied. If you pick a Chinese, you can see the line-up, but you have to pick one of them. You cannot switch to Indonesians. The price varies with the room. At the low end, an Indonesian costs 275, 000 and the Chinese costs 350, 000 for 90 minutes of massage. I have to see the girl, so I picked the Chinese with the deluxe hotel room which ran about 400, 000 for 90 minutes of massage. Fortunately, there were three I liked in the eight-women line-up. I picked a tall, shapely Chinese girl with a nice smile.
The room was very nice. She undressed me and I laid down. She started the massage fully-clotherd. As it turned out, the 400, 000 only included the room and the massage. You had to negotiate separately for the sex. The massage was great and I was very relaxed. After about half an hour, she started massaging my private parts and asked if I wanted full sex. I said that Iwanted the full 90 minutes massage. At that point, you have to call the office and request 45 minutes more, which would cost 200, 000 more (half). Her massage was great and she was very sexy, so I entered negotiations. She spoke no English, so we had to use a translator on her phone. We agreed on 1 millionm Rp for 45 minutes of sex after the 90 minutes massage. At that point, she undressed and continued with the massage. It was very erotic.
After the 90 minutes, she started the sex. The blowjob was great-one of the best I've ever had. It lasted a full 25 minutes. She ran her tongue around the edge of my shaft, then took me deep into her mouth, teased the tip of my cock with her tongue, then licked and sucked my balls. I was in heaven with the combination of the great massage and the wonderful BBBJ. I kept changing postions during the BJ, first standing up while she kneeled in front of me, the on my knees, while she sucked me bent down, then laying on my back while she engulfed my cock. Pleasure ran through my whole body, as she gave me the BJ.
After a while, she applied the condon and jumped on top, performing an enthusiastic cowgirl. It was very erotic and a lot of fun. I got her in several other positions-from the back, on top and sideways. I finished on top with a huge explosion. All in all, it lasted over two hours. It was very satisfying.
On the way out, there was another line-up of the Chinese girls, but I did not see the good-looking ones. I consdidered myself lucky with the earlier line-up. As you can see, there are a lot of restrictions and the price is higher than average. However, the service was among the best and the surroundings were nice. I posting this in detail for reference of those who go to Jakarta and hear about Sun City. They seemed to have plenty of customers, so I guess the service must be at a level leverl and the surroundings nice. If you go, have fund and be warned about all the rules and regulations.
Mighty Spearsman
09-16-13, 04:57
On my last day in Jakarta, I decided to try Sun City-an upscale place which is not suitable for bargain-hunters. It's located in Kota in north Jakarta. I have some reservations about recommending it, but I must say that it was a great experience-one of the best sessions I've had in a long time. There are a lot of restrictions and rules I learned and this is problematic. First of all, they have a lounge, but I went to the spa. You can sign up for a massage, which can turn into full sex if you negotiate a deal with the masseuse. One wrinkle is that if you pick an Indonesian, there is no line-up. They bring you a girl and you can exchange her twice if you're not satisfied. If you pick a Chinese, you can see the line-up, but you have to pick one of them. You cannot switch to Indonesians. The price varies with the room. At the low end, an Indonesian costs 275, 000 and the Chinese costs 350, 000 for 90 minutes of massage. I have to see the girl, so I picked the Chinese with the deluxe hotel room which ran about 400, 000 for 90 minutes of massage. Fortunately, there were three I liked in the eight-women line-up. I picked a tall, shapely Chinese girl with a nice smile.
The room was very nice. She undressed me and I laid down. She started the massage fully-clotherd. As it turned out, the 400, 000 only included the room and the massage. You had to negotiate separately for the sex. The massage was great and I was very relaxed. After about half an hour, she started massaging my private parts and asked if I wanted full sex. I said that Iwanted the full 90 minutes massage. At that point, you have to call the office and request 45 minutes more, which would cost 200, 000 more (half). Her massage was great and she was very sexy, so I entered negotiations. She spoke no English, so we had to use a translator on her phone. We agreed on 1 millionm Rp for 45 minutes of sex after the 90 minutes massage. At that point, she undressed and continued with the massage. It was very erotic.
After the 90 minutes, she started the sex. The blowjob was great-one of the best I've ever had. It lasted a full 25 minutes. She ran her tongue around the edge of my shaft, then took me deep into her mouth, teased the tip of my cock with her tongue, then licked and sucked my balls. I was in heaven with the combination of the great massage and the wonderful BBBJ. I kept changing postions during the BJ, first standing up while she kneeled in front of me, the on my knees, while she sucked me bent down, then laying on my back while she engulfed my cock. Pleasure ran through my whole body, as she gave me the BJ.
After a while, she applied the condon and jumped on top, performing an enthusiastic cowgirl. It was very erotic and a lot of fun. I got her in several other positions-from the back, on top and sideways. I finished on top with a huge explosion. All in all, it lasted over two hours. It was very satisfying.
On the way out, there was another line-up of the Chinese girls, but I did not see the good-looking ones. I consdidered myself lucky with the earlier line-up. As you can see, there are a lot of restrictions and the price is higher than average. However, the service was among the best and the surroundings were nice. I posting this in detail for reference of those who go to Jakarta and hear about Sun City. They seemed to have plenty of customers, so I guess the service must be at a level leverl and the surroundings nice. If you go, have fund and be warned about all the rules and regulations.Great report! Thanks for writing an extensive field report about a place that is rarely discussed here on ISG.
Yes, it wasn't cheap, but paying 400, 000 + 1 million = 1, 400, 000 rupiah total for a great massage+sex session with a pretty Chinese girl is comparable (if not cheaper) to similar sessions with Chinese girls at places like Malioboro, Sumo Shiatsu & Alexis.
Great report! Thanks for writing an extensive field report about a place that is rarely discussed here on ISG.
Yes, it wasn't cheap, but paying 400, 000 + 1 million = 1, 400, 000 rupiah total for a great massage+sex session with a pretty Chinese girl is comparable (if not cheaper) to similar sessions with Chinese girls at places like Malioboro, Sumo Shiatsu & Alexis.Thank you, Spearsman. It was actually more than 1. 4 million. The extra 45 minutes was an additional 200, 000 (half the 400, 000 90-minute fee). That was fine with me, since I wanted the full two hours and 15 minutes-90 minutes of massage and 45 minutes of sex. Also, she charged me an extra 400, 000 for the BBBJ. The total was 2 million which is about the same as Alexis, but I got over two hours of service-more than twice as much as Alexis or Malioboro. To me, it was worth it.
I hear what you are saying about Classic Hotel, but those Terminal 5:8/1hr sessions with any of the Classic girls between 6pm-3am for 600k sounds sick.I have scrolled back several pages now and used the search function extensively but for the life of me I cannot find what this refers to, can anyone enlighten me as to what this is?
Haggis Man
09-17-13, 23:10
I have scrolled back several pages now and used the search function extensively but for the life of me I cannot find what this refers to, can anyone enlighten me as to what this is?Level 5 within Classic hotel. 8 different cewek cewek for 8 hours in total for a total cost of 600K. 1 cewek at a time it is.
Level 5 within Classic hotel. 8 different cewek cewek for 8 hours in total for a total cost of 600K. 1 cewek at a time it is.Interesting concept, Haggis. Does it mean, every hour they will send a new cewek to your room? If its so, its a bargain!
I think it's just for a limited time during promotion on Classic 2 and 5.
If its so, its a bargain!Kind of sounds like hard work to me, locked up in a room for eight hours, having to deal with a girl every hour. I'm not sure who should be paying whom.
Interesting. Is this promotion still good? This is very much similar to the PartyTreffs clubs in Germany. Let me know, Please.
Kind of sounds like hard work to me, locked up in a room for eight hours, having to deal with a girl every hour. I'm not sure who should be paying whom.
Thank you Haggis Man.
Fascinating, I'm a regular visitor to the fifth floor and never heard anything about this before. Just last week I splashed out and bought myself a bottle of Black Label and I have a free day coming up next week for which I have no plans so it sounds like fun but like other posters I would be interested in the logistics. Do I stay in the room or can I come back and forth as I feel like it (eight girls would be too much even for me, four or five would be sufficient)? Do I get a choice or is it Mama's picks? I'd be interested to hear of anyone who has taken on this challenge.
Yes I know it is Friday already. These were taken last weekend. Girlfriend keeps bringing me extra girls.
I really need a new hobby. And yes all are over the age of 20.
Second set is my mid week girlfriend. Got to love the brown butt!
VagigiLover
09-22-13, 02:56
fellow vagigilovers!
time to venture to the orient. trip plan is hong kong with a 19:05 landing and a ferry to macau for the night. then jakarta because it is inexpensive hotel-wise. two days in singapore which is becoming the very expensive.
i have frequented several of our favorite spas. last time. april 2013. i stayed overnight at 18. construction was still occurring. ran into the indo girl with the nice body and rack at the chair wash. i do love that first encounter. something about getting all cleaned up by a hot asian girl and her small hands on my cock is amazing! cock on a cock ring and viagra. full hard erection she enjoys teasing. and the line-up girls all seem to wink if they like what they see!
i have been to 18 twice and will probably hit it again. i did seven thigh massages last time and they were intense. one girl had to rush me to a backroom to finish the job. thank goodness! in the 10 visits to various saunas i have not taken a girl. not sure why other than i relish thigh massages and giving the girls peeks from under the towel and watching their reaction!
i did sanado the previous time through the area. expensive as hell but i liked the environment. i want to check out east but it is the same gig. way too expensive. i stayed the night at familia and enjoyed that and again indulged and thigh massages and blew three times. ear cleanings are awesome too.
i did emperors and the chicks were snobs. had the best pedicure ever though. never went back.
also tried rio twice. enjoyed the pool side korean bath. had two hot ones cleaning every orifice. one had a great natural rack and she gave me her number. but of course i left the next day. she was viet. had a great facial and thigh massage at the same time at it was overwhelming. it is the only spa i know that allows the two-headed tag team. does anyone recall the thigh massage price at rio? if they are priced same as fn or 18 then i will probably check it out if not 18. big boss may be an option too.
now to jakarta. i was there on my way to bali a few years ago. i stayed three nights at le meridian. i stumbled on fortuna on the west side of the freeway. the hosted was smoking hot. got her number and tried to call her and we chatted but no close. as for my indo masseuse, she was a 9. beautiful face, legs, and nice tits. i did a massage and hj and did not know what else was on the menu. she did ask me what i wanted. i think fs is possible and with her i would have. she was smoking! i went back a second time mid-day and got a decent one. older, good massage, hj. she was probably early 30s.
also hot bats and tried to steal away one from another dude who was not at all impressive but could not get it done. had girls grabbing my cock and pre-loaded on a 100mg viagra i was walking the crowd with wood. banana was the term the girls used. lol! i bailed but in the lobby of the le meridian was a girl and we crossed paths. we chatted a bit and 30 minutes later she was being deep probed. i remember her beautiful pussy, i like lips out, aka extrovert. we showed first and we did a nice 69 session, fucked in many positions. she asked for no money, which actually led to me giving her about $50usd. i prefer when it happens that way!
i have five nights in jakarta and then *** before my weekend departure. i would love to go back to phnom penh or maybe vientiane. i fucked the brain out of a prc girl in pp that i met on the street. one of the best bodies i've ever penetrated. 24, c-cups, and the perfect thickness. her pussy was glorious with the little tuft of hair which i used to pull the hood up and expose her clit. i didn't let her sleep much. inserted around eight times throughout the night. once it was in there was not stopping it! and the massage places in vientiane had very hot women. i found a petite one and she had my cock stoked within a few glides around the area. the remaining 40 minutes of the session focused on my cock with a release that kept coming! i gave her all the credit! saw her two more times and the final time she came to my hotel with asian-size condoms in her little back pocket. well i knew those would not fly! the unfortunate thing about that was i could not get in. she would not allow me to use the cock ring and i was still good and hard but she was so tight i could not get in. she was frustrated as much as i was. she allowed a picture after we showered. if i had one more day there i would have tied again.
for this trip i wanted to do the eastern block in europe but changed my mind to asia. i hope it was the right call!
ciao boys!
vagigilover
Alas we have no field reports from anyone who has tried out the all-you-can-eat buffet at Terminal 5 so I will just have to go there myself and find out.
I have however being doing some back of the envelope calculations. The deal would involve 16 showers (need to bring moisturiser) and 32 fresh towels (I hope!) , you'd spend 40 minutes in preliminary small talk finding out which part of Bandung or Indramayu the ladies hailed from, how old they were, how long they've been working in Jakarta and just why their husbands left them. You would have a choice of a maximum of 24 orifices to explore with tongue, c0ck or fingers; I dare say they'd get kinda samey after a while.
On past form at that establishment I estimate seven of the girls, average age 23, would be single mothers but only two would admit it, one might even still be lactating, always a heap of fun. Two would be complete starfish, two would be great GFE's and the other four would be solid reliable, if a bit mechanical, performers. You'd also have to ask six of them not to use condoms for the blowjob and only two of them would relent. The number of tissues spat into and thrown on the floor in the course of the blowjobs might approach triple figures.
And you'd have to add Rp400, 000 to the final bill for tips.
Have I got that about right, is there anything I've left out?
I will be staying at the Shangri-La and hope to find a good local masage spa nearby.
Found the following list in the forum. Any of there near the hotel?
Or perhaps someone could recommend something nearby?
1) Sun City Luxury Spa.
2) Alexis.
3) Malioboro Hotel & Spa.
4) Fortune.
5) Delta Spa.
6) Sumo Spa.
7) Beverly Hills spa.
8) MyPlace.
9) Emporium.
10) Sands Spa.
Mighty Spearsman
09-22-13, 22:43
I will be staying at the Shangri-La and hope to find a good local masage spa nearby.
Found the following list in the forum. Any of there near the hotel?
Or perhaps someone could recommend something nearby?
1) Sun City Luxury Spa.
2) Alexis.
3) Malioboro Hotel & Spa.
4) Fortune.
5) Delta Spa.
6) Sumo Spa.
7) Beverly Hills spa.
8) MyPlace.
9) Emporium.
10) Sands Spa.Your choices are spread all over the city, if you did visit all 10 you'd probably know Jakarta better than the Mayor!
For example:
Fortune Spa is probably the closest to you, a couple of blocks south of Shangri-La, across from Le Meridien. 5 minutes by taxi (assuming not rush hour) 10-15 walking.
There are several Delta Spas, the one closest to you would be 10-15 minutes south-east.
Maribaya Spa in Blok M is 10-15 minutes south.
Malioboro is due north, maybe 15-20 minutes by cab or 10-15 minutes on the TransJakarta Busway. Another 5 minutes north and you're at Kartika-Berlian-Stadium area, then another 5 minutes by cab to Hotel Travel.
Alexis is in the far north, could be 30 minutes or more.
Sumo Shiatsu Spa is in Kelapa Gading, in the far northeast of Jakarta, at least 45 minutes away, possibly 75-90 minutes each way.
All of the above times assume you are not travelling during the afternoon rush hour.
I'll let someone else tell you how far away the rest of your list is.
Look forward to your field reports.
Your choices are spread all over the city, if you did visit all 10 you'd probably know Jakarta better than the Mayor!
For example:
Fortune Spa is probably the closest to you, a couple of blocks south of Shangri-La, across from Le Meridien. 5 minutes by taxi (assuming not rush hour) 10-15 walking.
There are several Delta Spas, the one closest to you would be 10-15 minutes south-east.
Maribaya Spa in Blok M is 10-15 minutes south.
Malioboro is due north, maybe 15-20 minutes by cab or 10-15 minutes on the TransJakarta Busway. Another 5 minutes north and you're at Kartika-Berlian-Stadium area, then another 5 minutes by cab to Hotel Travel.
Alexis is in the far north, could be 30 minutes or more.
Sumo Shiatsu Spa is in Kelapa Gading, in the far northeast of Jakarta, at least 45 minutes away, possibly 75-90 minutes each way.
All of the above times assume you are not travelling during the afternoon rush hour.
I'll let someone else tell you how far away the rest of your list is.
Look forward to your field reports.Mighty Spearsman. Many thanks for such a detailed reply. I have two week trip coming up in October. Manila KL Jakarta HK. Lot of planning before hand. Will definitely reply with report.
Hilo77, I think you covered everything (I was trying to figure out also). In addition you need to add a lot of drinks and probably food, my main concern will be, if we're able to choose the girl every hour, that one will be very important for me.
Alas we have no field reports from anyone who has tried out the all-you-can-eat buffet at Terminal 5 so I will just have to go there myself and find out.
I have however being doing some back of the envelope calculations. The deal would involve 16 showers (need to bring moisturiser) and 32 fresh towels (I hope!) , you'd spend 40 minutes in preliminary small talk finding out which part of Bandung or Indramayu the ladies hailed from, how old they were, how long they've been working in Jakarta and just why their husbands left them. You would have a choice of a maximum of 24 orifices to explore with tongue, c0ck or fingers; I dare say they'd get kinda samey after a while.
On past form at that establishment I estimate seven of the girls, average age 23, would be single mothers but only two would admit it, one might even still be lactating, always a heap of fun. Two would be complete starfish, two would be great GFE's and the other four would be solid reliable, if a bit mechanical, performers. You'd also have to ask six of them not to use condoms for the blowjob and only two of them would relent. The number of tissues spat into and thrown on the floor in the course of the blowjobs might approach triple figures.
And you'd have to add Rp400, 000 to the final bill for tips.
Have I got that about right, is there anything I've left out?
Been away for Jakarta for a while. Used to hang sometimes with Ana, a regular at TG for a couple of years, the number 1 sexy dancer, very short dresses sexy dancer, always up on the plinth, Rp 1 m girl but still very popular and busy. Haven't seen her about and old hp number inactive. Heard she might have a boyfriend and dropped out, but then they never do really, do they? Anybody seen her about this year or know what her story is? Like to find her again if I can, but then lots of others out there if I can't.
Level 5 within Classic hotel. 8 different cewek cewek for 8 hours in total for a total cost of 600K. 1 cewek at a time it is.I've never heard of that, but sounds like a fantastic bargain. Then again, that's 8 different girls you have to tip from 50 to 100k each.
Member #4537
09-24-13, 12:12
I've never heard of that, but sounds like a fantastic bargain. Then again, that's 8 different girls you have to tip from 50 to 100k each.You don't have To tip them. But if there's something you want them to do they'll definitely do it. Hell, if a creampie is what you're after, that 100k will do wonders.
You don't have To tip them.Come on dude. Are you saying you don't tip the girls pretty much every time? Unless the girl is complete garbage or insists on a condom for the bj, 50k is about the minimum tip. For sure, the more you tip the more bargaining power you have. But I don't want guys here to think it's normal to not tip these girls, because it is not.
If the deal is 8 girls for 600k, you can easily add 400 to 800k to that for tips. Depending on service. So I guess in your example, it would be 800k in tips if you were looking for cream pies from all the girls. So total damage would be 1,400,000 rupiah for the experience.
I will say I'm a bit surprised you can easily get cream pies at classic. I haven't been there in over a year. But in my experience, that is not a good venue if you expect that kind of service. There are other venues where that is not a problem, but unless things have changed, classic is not a good place for that.
Been away for Jakarta for a while. Used to hang sometimes with Ana, a regular at TG for a couple of years, the number 1 sexy dancer, very short dresses sexy dancer, always up on the plinth, Rp 1 m girl but still very popular and busy. Haven't seen her about and old hp number inactive. Heard she might have a boyfriend and dropped out, but then they never do really, do they? Anybody seen her about this year or know what her story is? Like to find her again if I can, but then lots of others out there if I can't.She was one of the best on the blok the last few years for sure. I don't visit the blok much, but saw her in Eastern Promise not too long ago. She has a guy taking care of her now. He seems to take her with him outside Indonesia as well. I'd consider her off the market for now. Ever since her old cohort Cweety got into a relationship and had that kid, Ana has settled down as well. Those 2 were fun. But time moves on and new girls show up.
Member #4537
09-25-13, 04:12
I will say I'm a bit surprised you can easily get cream pies at classic. I haven't been there in over a year. But in my experience, that is not a good venue if you expect that kind of service. There are other venues where that is not a problem, but unless things have changed, classic is not a good place for that.It's not a big deal. I've discovered over the years that one is guaranteed to get creampies pretty much everywhere in town if a little time to build rapport with the girl is spent before booking her. Of course, speaking Bahasa would be essential. And don't forget to offer to buy her or her friends a Pocari or pack of Sampoerna in addition to the tip you would give later. The only time it would be an issue is if the girl is exceptionally popular that her time is so precious and your tip would mean nothing (let's be honest, only a tiny few are) or if you go with the European imports. But if you go for Chinese, Thai or Vietnamese imports it's the same MO.
Member #4537
09-25-13, 04:18
Heard she might have a boyfriend and dropped out, but then they never do really, do they?That's true. As they say, you can take the girl out of the bar but not the bar out of the girl, especially if she's a popular girl so the money's too damn good.
Come on dude. Are you saying you don't tip the girls pretty much every time? Unless the girl is complete garbage or insists on a condom for the bj, 50k is about the minimum tip. For sure, the more you tip the more bargaining power you have. But I don't want guys here to think it's normal to not tip these girls, because it is not.My general rule is to tip 50k pretty much regardless, unless the service is really frankly bad. If it's just so-so, I still tip the 50k, I just don't go back to that girl again. If they are really good, then it's 100k. But I make an exception at Hotel Travel, I can't be bothered tipping if the girls aren't even going to try a bit. In fact, it happened one too many times, so I just don't bother with the place anymore.
Ah, Jakarta! I haven't used dating sites for a while, but I got back online a week or so again. Met the very first girl I chatted with, went and had coffee with her and a friend, she seemed a bit too sweet, young and well brought up, so I didn't think it was going to go anywhere. No problem, she was fun enough to have coffee with. I got an sms yesterday afternoon, saying "Gonzo, are you gay?" "Hahahaha. No, why do you ask?" "because you didn't ask me back to your place the other day." I apologized for the oversight, and there was a brief, pregnant pause."I've got my PMT, I'm really in need. Can we meet up?" A very good fun few hours, although she had to leave by 10pm. Curfew at home. I should say that she even made a big point about wanting to pay for her own coffee when we first met. Isn't this city an amazing place?
* Name changed to protect the guilty.
She was one of the best on the blok the last few years for sure. I don't visit the blok much, but saw her in Eastern Promise not too long ago. She has a guy taking care of her now. He seems to take her with him outside Indonesia as well. I'd consider her off the market for now. Ever since her old cohort Cweety got into a relationship and had that kid, Ana has settled down as well. Those 2 were fun. But time moves on and new girls show up.Thanks for that Smoothy. It's Ana from Bogor I was talking about, I know there are a few Ana's about. I'm a bit of a sentimentalist so might give Eastern Promise a try if she's plying her trade there, otherwise forget it and move on.
Have a few pictures / stories I'm trying to put up (not Ana!) and will eventually work out the bloody system! Till then, cheers.
This is the Ana I was thinking about.
Perhaps Smoothy has posted up a picture of a different girl but I can well imagine that there is some idiot out there, who of all the lovely, sweet, clever girls in Indonesia who would only love to marry and settle down with a western guy bringing in a good salary, chose to get married to a Blok M bar girl, tattoos and all.
There is really nothing as cringe-making as seeing a middle-aged mixed race couple and the wife, in her forties, plump and rough looking with faded tattoos announcing to the world (and their kids)"I was a prostitute doing tricks in a bar when I met my husband".
The husband introduces his wife to his friends and colleagues and Indonesian associates and everyone of them smiles politely while sniggering as they think "Seriously dude, that's the best choice you could make out of all the amazing girls in this country?" And a few of his male friends think to themselves "I wonder does she still do that brilliant trick she did with her tongue now that she's married".
Look guys, here's the deal, there are loads of great, smoking hot girls in Jakarta's bars and bordellos, there are literally tens of thousands of them. They are willing to provide all manner of sexual gratification, and they don't charge a lot either. Every night you can choose one, or two, or seventy-three if you like, you pay them and walk away. If you feel like a repeat performance you can come back another night, she'll still be there and if she's not, guess what? There will be at least another hundred just as hot as her willing to do the same stuff.
For heaven's sake don't be a complete d1ckhead and marry one of them! Are you insane? Do you really want to spend the rest of your life looking at her and wondering how many other blokes, how many of your friends, she sucked c0ck for? How many of them she swore was a handsome man too?
Get on a dating site and find a nice girl, with a bit of an education, in her twenties holding down a job and looking for a good husband to look after her and who she can spoil. Trust me there's a gazillion of them out there. After you've married her, you'll still be able to fcuk the pole dancers in tattoos that can drink industrial quantities of ice teas and best of all you can wander off and leave them when you're done and go back home to the decent respectable lady who is rearing your kids.
This is the Ana I was thinking about.Hmmm. Different Ana, but very nice! 'My' Ana, shorter, sexy body. 4 nights a week girl (nearly always successful) at TG for the last few years up to Jan this year, virtually no English. 4 yrs ago I was, according to her, only her second customer. Totally believable. Shy, lights off, sheets over, missionary position only, didn't know what a BJ was, scared and nervous. So bad in fact, I dunno why I ever went there again. A far cry from the exhibitionist and enthusiastic vixen she became by the end of last year when I last saw her. We've always been 'friends' of a sort since the early days which is why I'd like to see her again. But I guess I'll forget about it unless chance throws us together again. Thanks for your help, Smoothie, much appreciated.
For heaven's sake don't be a complete d1ckhead and marry one of them! Are you insane? Do you really want to spend the rest of your life looking at her and wondering how many other blokes, how many of your friends, she sucked c0ck for? How many of them she swore was a handsome man too?
Get on a dating site and find a nice girl, with a bit of an education, in her twenties holding down a job and looking for a good husband to look after her and who she can spoil. Trust me there's a gazillion of them out there.Fully agree:
I did observe a former Blok-M girl, hottie at that time, got married to an Aussie bloke, had 2 kids with him, she never took care of the kids but was self-centered and had some flings on the side. Not known by the bloke.
Then a friend of the bloke got involved with her. The husband finally realized that she was a *****. She moved in with the other guy, also because he got more money. It did work for 2 years. Then he got hit by the financial-market crisis, lost his job as investment advisor. Shortly after she found another guy and moved on to him.
That all happend in a period of 10 years. She's now end thirties, tits sagging and a fat face from smoking and drinking. Once she's joining our group, she is annoying loud. No ones fav anymore.
Well the mystery of Terminal 5's eight girls / one night promotion is at and end, or should I say the promotion is at an end. It was just a special offer when the place first opened and is no longer valid. Oh well, I'm sorry I never got the chance to try it out just for the heck of it.
Added to the fact that the titty dancers don't get their kit off until 11 pm now (previously it was 7pm) and the mamasans seem incapable of following plain, simple instructions when you tell them what you want (new girl, just up from the kampung and slim) and instead simply grab the first one they find (invariably a bit on the distaff side, new to Classic but only after working for three years in Terminal and Malioboro) I'll probably be giving the place a miss for a while.
Not quite sure where to set my sights now. By the way I see the Olympic, always a reliable spot for a good mid-afternoon massage, has shut down, what's the score there?
Anybody got any recommendations for something a bit new? I'm getting tired of all the same old-same-old joints.
Perhaps Smoothy has posted up a picture of a different girl but I can well imagine that there is some idiot out there, who of all the lovely, sweet, clever girls in Indonesia who would only love to marry and settle down with a western guy bringing in a good salary, chose to get married to a Blok M bar girl, tattoos and all.
There is really nothing as cringe-making as seeing a middle-aged mixed race couple and the wife, in her forties, plump and rough looking with faded tattoos announcing to the world (and their kids)"I was a prostitute doing tricks in a bar when I met my husband".
For heaven's sake don't be a complete d1ckhead and marry one of them! Are you insane? Do you really want to spend the rest of your life looking at her and wondering how many other blokes, how many of your friends, she sucked c0ck for? How many of them she swore was a handsome man too?
Get on a dating site and find a nice girl, with a bit of an education, in her twenties holding down a job and looking for a good husband to look after her and who she can spoil. Trust me there's a gazillion of them out there. After you've married her, you'll still be able to fcuk the pole dancers in tattoos that can drink industrial quantities of ice teas and best of all you can wander off and leave them when you're done and go back home to the decent respectable lady who is rearing your kids.Hilo,
I ain't that silly, first went to Blok M in 1994 and been around off and on ever since, and am not naive about what happens. I do have a 'nice' Indonesian wife, my vice and regret is that despite that I can't stay away from the good time girls for too long, try as I might, when I visit Jakarta alone! Sometimes develop soft spots for particular girls as in this case, and prefer to keep a regular on tap rather than ganti ganti terus. Usually ends when they get the possessives or drop off the scene. I'm always happy to move on and wouldn't dream of marriage.
Over the years have witnessed about 10 friends marry Blok girls. I'd say the success rate runs at about 30% based on my sample, bottom line problem is that trust can never really ever be there, no matter how good the intentions, both remember how and where they met and what that says about the possibility of fidelity. What tickles me are the cases where the guy expects the wild on-going carnal sex to continue, meanwhile the new wife wants to be a respectable Ibu and put all that behind her and not act like a hooker anymore. Sad in a way, both end up disillusioned. Easier if the girl just goes on with the lies and behind the back tricking and the guy continues to philander whenever he gets the chance until the inevitable break up!
Perhaps Smoothy has posted up a picture of a different girl but I can well imagine that there is some idiot out there, who of all the lovely, sweet, clever girls in Indonesia who would only love to marry and settle down with a western guy bringing in a good salary, chose to get married to a Blok M bar girl, tattoos and all. There is really nothing as cringe-making as seeing a middle-aged mixed race couple and the wife, in her forties, plump and rough looking with faded tattoos announcing to the world (and their kids)"I was a prostitute doing tricks in a bar when I met my husband".I'm just pausing to reflect to see if I can remember a case where it turned out well. Hmmm, nope. On the other hand, I don't hold out much hope for the marriages with the lovely, sweet, clever girls, either, but perhaps I'm being too cynical.
I'm just pausing to reflect to see if I can remember a case where it turned out well. Hmmm, nope.I know a few, but not many. There are some Pretty Woman stories from the blok where the girl remained faithful and the marriage worked out well, believe it or not.
Fully agree:
I did observe a former Blok-M girl, hottie at that time, got married to an Aussie bloke, had 2 kids with him, she never took care of the kids but was self-centered and had some flings on the side. Not known by the bloke.
Then a friend of the bloke got involved with her. The husband finally realized that she was a. She moved in with the other guy, also because he got more money. It did work for 2 years. Then he got hit by the financial-market crisis, lost his job as investment advisor. Shortly after she found another guy and moved on to him.
That all happend in a period of 10 years. She's now end thirties, tits sagging and a fat face from smoking and drinking. Once she's joining our group, she is annoying loud. No ones fav anymore.The hot ones are trouble. The mixed marriages do not work well unless there really ugly and know there on a good wicket. But if I'm going to be taken for a ride, let it be with a young hot one. I think about 1% of all girls are any good and so you marry a ugly one or pay the price. I sit at Christmas time and at parties with x pats and there all married to party girls. What a nightmare and always arguing over nothing. Guys are grass cutting each other all the time. Like I said 99% end badly and they takes years to get over it. But really your off the hook. Play the field and keep hunting. Photo of a great player and still playing everyone . I support her buy sharing her with other guys and she would lie to me all the time : But like banging her and keep playing along and fuck her for years . Hope u find a 1% or play the game .
What tickles me are the cases where the guy expects the wild on-going carnal sex to continue, meanwhile the new wife wants to be a respectable Ibu and put all that behind her and not act like a hooker anymore.Just like Ambrose Bierce said: the great tragedy of marriage is that the woman expects her husband to change, and he doesn't. And the man expects his wife never to change, but she does.
This is the Ana I was thinking about.Guys, I got this girl in my facebook, she has a really old boyfriend (65-70) , he brings her to the Maladives etc.
He spoils her and she "spoils" him. Not bad for a 70 year old guy. So who is stupid? .
If I am 70 and a cute girl like that rides my dick every day (or week) I would be really happy. I guess he knew she wasn't a virgin.
Mark
Guys, I got this girl in my facebook, she has a really old boyfriend (65-70) , he brings her to the Maladives etc.
He spoils her and she "spoils" him. Not bad for a 70 year old guy. So who is stupid? .
If I am 70 and a cute girl like that rides my dick every day (or week) I would be really happy. I guess he knew she wasn't a virgin.
MarkWell, I am older monger, and there is nothing sweeter than to take a cute cewek to exotic places. Life does not end at 40!
Bule2004
On the topic of older mongerers, earlier this month, I joined Indonesian Cupid (IC) earlier this month. I was somewhat apprehensive that my age, mid-60s, would be a turnoff to the cute ceweks I sought. I need not have worried!
Yes, I got a few "interests" from tubby old females, but, by far, most of the interests were from ceweks in their 20s, some still teenagers! I chatted with the handfull I found most attractive, and met most of them at Starbucks for coffee. Ninety percent (9 out of 10) of these initial meetings resulted in our checking into a local hotel to get to know one another better. I now infrequently go to kota to find chicks, and never the
Amazing country, try to do this in the United States. Exhibit 1 is the photo I received this morning from a chick trying to lure me in.
I often think that if the average American male over 40 years of age knew what I know, there would be a mass migration of males to Indonesia.
Bule2004
I do have a 'nice' Indonesian wife, my vice and regret is that despite that I can't stay away from the good time girls for too long, try as I might, when I visit Jakarta alone!You and me both mate, we're in precisely the same boat. However, as Bule2004 says below this isn't the west with all their ridiculous, anal-retentive attitudes to sex (and to listen to smug westerners you'd think they were the "liberated" ones and people in Indonesia were all ignorant, uptight, sexual prudes). Indonesian women aren't stupid, they know what's out there and they know damn well that given half a chance their men will be making out like tom cats if they can.
But provided we don't do anything stupid like getting ourselves caught or bring shame on the wife and family what an Indonesian wife doesn't know about she chooses not to ask. If she catches you then woe be tide you for a week or so, you'll be sleeping in the spare room while she thinks up her revenge but it will be endurable. Think about an American wife who caught her husband messing around with dolly birds, she'd be on the phone to her lawyer in a heartbeat and you'd be living in a miserable little apartment for the rest of your days, only seeing your kids on a Saturday morning for a trip to the zoo or MacDonalds and handing over two thirds of your salary and savings to keep her (and no doubt her new boyfriend) in the style to which she's grown accustomed in the house that you bought and now never see.
God I love this country.
On the topic of older mongerers, earlier this month, I joined Indonesian Cupid (IC) earlier this month. I was somewhat apprehensive that my age, mid-60s, would be a turnoff to the cute ceweks I sought. I need not have worried!In my experience, the girls who say they are open to men "18. 70" are pretty much always hookers. I'm just getting to the age where I notice I'm being excluded from a lot of women's "acceptable age range." Even so, if you send them a note to say hi, they often find they'll make an exception for you. I wish we had a special section of this forum just for online dating forums in Indonesia. Completely different ball game from P4P, really. I'm beginning to think that there's been a bit of a sexual revolution in Indonesia over the past fifteen years, when I first got here. I'm sure it wasn't that easy to meet nice, well brought up women who frankly just want a good shag back then. Or does it actually get easier when you get older? Well, perhaps I was a bit more naive and idealistic about life back then.
EDIT: I wish the automated punctuation police on this forum would lighten up a bit! I meant "18 to 70", I used a dash, and it got automatically edited into a full stop! I can't use both an exclamation mark and a question mark at the end of a sentence! No big one, but really!
In my experience, the girls who say they are open to men "18. 70" are pretty much always hookers. I'm just getting to the age where I notice I'm being excluded from a lot of women's "acceptable age range." Even so, if you send them a note to say hi, they often find they'll make an exception for you. I wish we had a special section of this forum just for online dating forums in Indonesia. Completely different ball game from P4P, really. I'm beginning to think that there's been a bit of a sexual revolution in Indonesia over the past fifteen years, when I first got here. I'm sure it wasn't that easy to meet nice, well brought up women who frankly just want a good shag back then. Or does it actually get easier when you get older? Well, perhaps I was a bit more naive and idealistic about life back then.
EDIT: I wish the automated punctuation police on this forum would lighten up a bit! I meant "18 to 70", I used a dash, and it got automatically edited into a full stop! I can't use both an exclamation mark and a question mark at the end of a sentence! No big one, but really!I have lived in Indonesia longer than 15 years, and I think you made two excellent points:
1. There has been a "sexual revolution in Indonesia" after the 1997/98 KrisMon. I will leave it up to someone with a higher pay grade to corrolate the economics and sex; and.
2. It does get easier, as a guy gets older, to increase his hit rate with non pros (and the occassional pro). My experience with IC women who state they are "open to men "18. 70"" is that they really want a more mature, oftentimes more inteligent man, so typically makes more money that the stud (no offense to the studs out there).
Honestly, I think I can continue to do this for the next twenty years, and I am in my mid 60s. Would I look foolish doing that? Or would the pleasure I would get make up for looking foolish.
Bule2004
Guys, I got this girl in my facebook, she has a really old boyfriend (65-70) , he brings her to the Maladives etc.
He spoils her and she "spoils" him. Not bad for a 70 year old guy. So who is stupid? .
If I am 70 and a cute girl like that rides my dick every day (or week) I would be really happy. I guess he knew she wasn't a virgin.
MarkI have all the respect in the world for a guy like that. Life is to be enjoyed. There's nothing wrong with having a Blok M tart for a companion (or even wife) at that age.
Robert Long
09-28-13, 18:21
I have lived in Indonesia longer than 15 years, and I think you made two excellent points:
1. There has been a "sexual revolution in Indonesia" after the 1997/98 KrisMon. I will leave it up to someone with a higher pay grade to corrolate the economics and sex; and.
2. It does get easier, as a guy gets older, to increase his hit rate with non pros (and the occassional pro). My experience with IC women who state they are "open to men "18. 70"" is that they really want a more mature, oftentimes more inteligent man, so typically makes more money that the stud (no offense to the studs out there).
Honestly, I think I can continue to do this for the next twenty years, and I am in my mid 60s. Would I look foolish doing that? Or would the pleasure I would get make up for looking foolish.
Bule2004Your right. A good woman looks for a man that can provide for them and give the security of a good life. In Indo where life can be very hard, securing an older man that has the funds to take care of them is a bonus.
Now with mongering the woman are attracted to the older men because they know they have money and that they do not have the energy to wear the ladies out. One good pop session and relax until the next morning. The older guys are not going to fu*k the girls for hours, which In my experience most ladies do not care for. They all like a short and sweet session and the security of making a good living without 4 customers a night.
I am 67 and have a life time of experience with Asian woman. I also would like to recommend that you older guys get acquainted with testosterone regiments. It works and makes you feel like your in your 30's. You can throw away your Blue jamu, you won't need it anymore.
RL
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I am 67 and have a life time of experience with Asian woman. I also would like to recommend that you older guys get acquainted with testosterone regiments. It works and makes you feel like your in your 30's. You can throw away your Blue jamu, you won't need it anymore.
RLI am 67 also but have no experience "with testosterone regiments." Where can you get the treatment?
Bule2004
I am 67 and have a life time of experience with Asian woman. I also would like to recommend that you older guys get acquainted with testosterone regiments. It works and makes you feel like your in your 30's. You can throw away your Blue jamu, you won't need it anymore.If you want to get all organic and natural, Indonesia produces an excellent product from a wood root, called pasak bumi, that promotes testosterone production without some of the side effects of testosterone supplementation. There's an outfit on Medan that produces a high grade extract (200:1). If you pay in rupiah and are having it shipped within Indonesia, they offer significant discounts. I don't know about the policy of linking to websites offering such products, but PM if you want to know more. Usual disclaimers about no commercial interest, just a satisfied customer, etcetera.
Robert Long
09-29-13, 23:23
If you want to get all organic and natural, Indonesia produces an excellent product from a wood root, called pasak bumi, that promotes testosterone production without some of the side effects of testosterone supplementation. There's an outfit on Medan that produces a high grade extract (200:1). If you pay in rupiah and are having it shipped within Indonesia, they offer significant discounts. I don't know about the policy of linking to websites offering such products, but PM if you want to know more. Usual disclaimers about no commercial interest, just a satisfied customer, etcetera.Sounds good. But I prefer being under the eyes of a doctor that monitors and tests the prostrate levels to assure it maintains a normal size. They test the blood every 3 months and adjust the amount of the injection to maintain the testosterone level around 1100. When I first applied for the program my testosterone level was 285. Had a difficult time keeping it up. Now no problem, and I am always horney.
I haven't noticed any side effects except the mussel tone has improved and the energy level has climbed. Nothing negative as far as I can see and I have been on the regiment for 6 months.
We have clinics that specialize in male health and provide the tests and instruction on usage. They also have a sublingual tablet that is somewhat like Viagra that's works in 15 minutes, as it gets right into the blood system instead of having to travel thru the intestinal tract. I love what science has accomplished for the modern man.
RL
Member #4410
10-03-13, 22:13
This is the Ana I was thinking about.I think there was another Ana about (I thought it was spelled Anna). In 2009 I took her from Top Gun an had a few enjoyable nights with her. She didn't want nude pictures but compromised on a few while wearing my shirt. See attachment. Do you think this was the same one? In December 2012 I saw her in Eastern Promise. She still wore the same style of short dress made of very sheer fabric that caught my attention in the past. She was with a bule and looked happy. I toasted her from a distance and she aknowledged with a broad smile.
Regards,
Ko
Zeppelin029
10-04-13, 04:13
Hey guys.
I'm jumping ahead and posting about my first experience in Jakarta, have not yet posted about my time in Angeles but I thought I'd share what happened last night.
I decide on BATS to open my time here, thinking that despite the price, if I get lazy later on I could get access to some action quickly without having to go out.
Arrive, music is way too loud. Band is reasonable. Few girls around. Circle circle, particularly taken by one girl in a Burberry dress who's giving me the eye but by the time I get to wanting to approach her she's with another gent. I begin chatting yo another lovely with a flower in her hair for the next hour or so. Eventually she says she has to go "working" as she has to find customers, alias I ask "what about me". The price quoted is US$150 for ST! I ask if she can go LT and she ponders the thought, telling me she doesn't want to stay.
At this point I don't think I'm winning, however there is another shapely girl who has appeared next to me, and she immediately begins talking, hugging blah blah. Meanwhile the first girl ends up off with someone else. Oh well, good for her.
So, I'm quoted US$100 or 1 Mil IDR. Given the exchange rate, her maths isn't the greatest. I ask about LT, which she agrees to for a price of 1. 5 million. She says she has to leave by 630-7 as she has a regular job to go to. I agree, zip to the bathroom, but when I Come back, cask "2 shots yes?" To which she agrees.
Back to the room, shapely body, BBBJ, few positions, fake moaning / compliments. Sleep.
Awake at 630am and she's dressing to leave? I ask about round 2 and she agrees. Lacklustre missionary but I appreciate time constraints and was still planning to grab some details for a return experience.
So, all done and she's saying "because we sex twice maybe you give me more money, maybe 2 mil". Now I'm not adverse to tipping if I've had a good time, but it was a little mechanical so I give her 1. 7 mil. At this point she starts whining "100000 more? Need money for my daughter. God will give you more money. I need money for taxi, food etc"
I stand my ground, on principle, and say I'm not paying anymore and that I've already given her US $150. Finally she realises she can't win and storms out threatening me saying "maybe if I see you in the club again I call my brother to punch you etc"!
Ok, so some of you might think I'm an idiot for arguing over $10, but I refused on principle. Yes I can easily afford it, but when you've agreed to a price, and number of shots, it gets very irritating when you start hustling for more cash.
Also clearly she was trying to nick off without round two, maybe she agreed without actually planning to follow through. What exactly do you think LT entails sweetie? Sharing my bed for fun?
Especially whee someone the girls ask for extra cash for eating, taxi etc it gives me the shits. I ate at a small nasi Padang place yesterday, I know you can eat for Rp. 15000 so don't tell me you need 100000.
Now as for the threat of being bashed, well I hope I'm ok the rest of the time here. I'm not staying at the Shangrila nor planning to return to BATS so from rust perspective I should be alright. Just hope she's not vindictive enough to have someone waiting outside my hotel to follow me, but given a lack of specific threat as such, I hope to be ok.
I had some questionable experiences with LT in Angeles too which is making me wonder whether I should keep persisting. Unfortunately it's starting to boil down to the three how's,"how much, how long, how many times".
May give Blok M a whirl later on.
Wish me luck! And safety!
I think there was another Ana about (I thought it was spelled Anna). In 2009 I took her from Top Gun an had a few enjoyable nights with her. She didn't want nude pictures but compromised on a few while wearing my shirt. See attachment. Do you think this was the same one? In December 2012 I saw her in Eastern Promise. She still wore the same style of short dress made of very sheer fabric that caught my attention in the past. She was with a bule and looked happy. I toasted her from a distance and she aknowledged with a broad smile.
Regards,
KoDoesn't look like the Ana Smoothie posted but could be. And still not the Ana I originally asked about! Surprises me no-one knows her as she was popular, active, non stop dancer, very sexy and so regular in Top Gun. Since been told she had a motor cycle accident a couple of months ago and still recuperating, but she seemed to haver dropped off the scene before then anyway.
In summary, too many Anas are never enough!
Wish me luck! And safety!Good luck down at the Block. Don't worry about the BATS experience, sometimes you get a bad experience, particularly if they think you're new and don't know the ropes. Forget it. But there's no need to tip a girl if you meet her in a club and agree on a price. You CAN, if you want, but only if she's really fun and you want to go out of your way to express your appreciation. I don't buy the extra for "taxi money" in that situation, either. That's a non-reimbursable overhead cost on her part, unless there's some special circumstance (like you take her out to Depok or Tangerang, without telling her first). On the other hand, you should always tip in bordellos, at least 50k. The girl's cut at those places is pretty small and often comes late with all sorts of deductions, so a bit extra is really the right way to go. On the Block, aim to pay at least half what you paid at BATS and preferably a third. Be confident about it, don't bargain, just offer a reasonable price and if she doesn't like it, give her a polite smile and a pat on the arse and try another one.
Member #4698
10-04-13, 19:06
Hey guys.
So, I'm quoted US$100 or 1 Mil IDR. Given the exchange rate, her maths isn't the greatest. I ask about LT, which she agrees to for a price of 1. 5 million. She says she has to leave by 630-7 as she has a regular job to go to. I agree, zip to the bathroom, but when I Come back, cask "2 shots yes?" To which she agrees. Back to the room, shapely body, BBBJ, few positions, fake moaning / compliments. Sleep.
Awake at 630am and she's dressing to leave? I ask about round 2 and she agrees. Lacklustre missionary but I appreciate time constraints and was still planning to grab some details for a return experience. So, all done and she's saying "because we sex twice maybe you give me more money, maybe 2 mil". Now I'm not adverse to tipping if I've had a good time, but it was a little mechanical so I give her 1. 7 mil. At this point she starts whining "100000 more." I stand my ground, on principle, and say I'm not paying anymore and that I've already given her US $150.This is why I prefer ST the first time I am with a girl. I would rather not make the big investment before I sample the goods. If the 1st round is great and there is some chemistry, I can usually extend the session or definitely make another date for later. If the session is less than great, I am better off to keep it short time and let her go. The only time I don't arrange ST the first time is in AC and Subic where LT is the default. But even in AC and Subic, I will cut a girl loose if I am not 100% satisfied with her. I would rather sleep alone or go out hunting again. There are plenty more fish in the sea.
Member #4537
10-04-13, 19:11
Also clearly she was trying to nick off without round two, maybe she agreed without actually planning to follow through. What exactly do you think LT entails sweetie? Sharing my bed for fun? !I've never seen the point in trying to negotiate with a freelancer over LT because they will almost certainly give you the "capek" excuse after the first shot, so if you want a proper LT, go book them on-site at King's Cross, Stadium etc, because this way she knows you can complain if she didn't service you but it's expensive.
By the way, Blok M ST is 750, 00k + taxi, if they won't budge then try later before closing time they might change their minds and in my experience always worked especially if it's a weekday not a weekend.
Member #4537
10-04-13, 19:54
By the way 750k which I wrote about on my previous post was referring to Top Gun and MyBar.
While we're on the topic of ST and LT prices, here's the system in D's place.
BBBJ / w CIM inside the VIP room: 300k.
FS inside the VIP room 500k (yes, even for that beautiful tall fair skinned odd one out with the attitude who isn't a MILF).
This is why I prefer ST the first time I am with a girl. I would rather not make the big investment before I sample the goods. If the 1st round is great and there is some chemistry, I can usually extend the session or definitely make another date for later.Apart from girls signing up for LT and then wanting to scoot off early, you also get the opposite situation, where a girl agrees to ST and then can't be bothered going home before subuh. A lot of boarding houses and even residential zones frown on women coming home between about midnight and dawn, it looks better for them to come home after subuh anyway. So it's not always such a big difference. To be honest, I never specify ST or LT (and quite often don't talk money upfront, either) , and it seems to work out okay, mostly they leave at about five to get home to cook for the kids and so on.
Hey guys.
I'm jumping ahead and posting about my first experience in Jakarta, have not yet posted about my time in Angeles but I thought I'd share what happened last night.
I decide on BATS to open my time here, thinking that despite the price, if I get lazy later on I could get access to some action quickly without having to go out.
Arrive, music is way too loud. Band is reasonable. Few girls around. Circle circle, particularly taken by one girl in a Burberry dress who's giving me the eye but by the time I get to wanting to approach her she's with another gent. I begin chatting yo another lovely with a flower in her hair for the next hour or so. Eventually she says she has to go "working" as she has to find customers, alias I ask "what about me". The price quoted is US$150 for ST! I ask if she can go LT and she ponders the thought, telling me she doesn't want to stay.
At this point I don't think I'm winning, however there is another shapely girl who has appeared next to me, and she immediately begins talking, hugging blah blah. Meanwhile the first girl ends up off with someone else. Oh well, good for her.
So, I'm quoted US$100 or 1 Mil IDR. Given the exchange rate, her maths isn't the greatest. I ask about LT, which she agrees to for a price of 1. 5 million. She says she has to leave by 630-7 as she has a regular job to go to. I agree, zip to the bathroom, but when I Come back, cask "2 shots yes?" To which she agrees.
Back to the room, shapely body, BBBJ, few positions, fake moaning / compliments. Sleep.
Awake at 630am and she's dressing to leave? I ask about round 2 and she agrees. Lacklustre missionary but I appreciate time constraints and was still planning to grab some details for a return experience.
So, all done and she's saying "because we sex twice maybe you give me more money, maybe 2 mil". Now I'm not adverse to tipping if I've had a good time, but it was a little mechanical so I give her 1. 7 mil. At this point she starts whining "100000 more? Need money for my daughter. God will give you more money. I need money for taxi, food etc"
I stand my ground, on principle, and say I'm not paying anymore and that I've already given her US $150. Finally she realises she can't win and storms out threatening me saying "maybe if I see you in the club again I call my brother to punch you etc"!
Ok, so some of you might think I'm an idiot for arguing over $10, but I refused on principle. Yes I can easily afford it, but when you've agreed to a price, and number of shots, it gets very irritating when you start hustling for more cash.
Also clearly she was trying to nick off without round two, maybe she agreed without actually planning to follow through. What exactly do you think LT entails sweetie? Sharing my bed for fun?
Especially whee someone the girls ask for extra cash for eating, taxi etc it gives me the shits. I ate at a small nasi Padang place yesterday, I know you can eat for Rp. 15000 so don't tell me you need 100000.
Now as for the threat of being bashed, well I hope I'm ok the rest of the time here. I'm not staying at the Shangrila nor planning to return to BATS so from rust perspective I should be alright. Just hope she's not vindictive enough to have someone waiting outside my hotel to follow me, but given a lack of specific threat as such, I hope to be ok.
I had some questionable experiences with LT in Angeles too which is making me wonder whether I should keep persisting. Unfortunately it's starting to boil down to the three how's,"how much, how long, how many times".
May give Blok M a whirl later on.
Wish me luck! And safety!It's unfortunate that you had such a bad experience but I do think that you are right in holding your ground. If you have given in then it would be expected all of the time. I can't say I have had any such experience in Jakarta as I tend to be firm at the beginning. After negotiating I suggestively tell them that's all I have.
I usually don't to LT with a new girl, always try ST and feel them out as to their method of operation. You can tell the hustlers from the others very quickly.
Even though you met here at BATS she may still be around in Blok M so just be a bit careful. I have never had any issues with girls in Jakarta but that doesn't mean that there aren't any incidents. Be safe and stay alert I don't think you would have any issues.
There's nothing to worry even if you go to BATS. Security is pretty tight there. They don't want shit to happen on their premises.
I have thrown out women who did not honour their part of the agreement and been threatened. Those are just empty threats. Complain about the broad to security at BATS if she really threatened you and they will ban her.
I really don't like to treat women bad or argue for USD20 but like you, I stand by 'principles' LOL.
I normally stay at a 5* hotel and no one is going to come into your room without your permission in South East Asia! PERIOD!
Hey guys.
Wish me luck! And safety!
Usual trip to Jakarta. Was staying at the Mulia. Went down to CJ's to check out the scene. Was there on a Wednesday (Ladies Nite). Really crowded and sorry to say that CJ's has seen much better days with regards to the girls available. Ratio of 60:40 / men:women. Not a good ratio for punting.
Just casually walked around and surveyed the scene. Got talking to a few. One girl was slim and was chatty. Just continued chatting until 2 and she said that she was sleepy. I said that she could sleep in my room. Unfortunately, both of us were not carrying condoms. So just went to sleep. Little McM woke a few times in the nite but somehow goaded him to sleep.
Could not do for long. Played around with her tits and she 'woke up'. Handjob for me. Tried to push her head down but no luck. Finished and went back to sleep. In the morning, gave her 200K for the privilege of her company. She said 'All pay 1 Juta'. I said that they pay for sex while she should be paying me for sleeping in a nice room. Anyway, gave her 300K. I should not have paid but I was really in no mood to argue and wanted to go back to sleep.
On Friday, tried Red Square at Senayan Arcadia. Entry was 130k cover for 1 drink (I think). Really crowded and the girls are worse than at CJ's. Too much of the smoking crowd and fat bules trying to muster dance moves. Stood against a wall until Jasmine showed up with her friend. She was half from Pontianak and half from Aceh. 28, Nice face, good body. Initially she showed some interest but it was getting nowhere but there were no fall-back options too. Around 2, asked her if she wanted to go back with me. She said 1. 5 mil. I countered with 1 mil. Anyway, some other guys started chatting with her and I asked her how much till morning. She said, that now its 2 mil for short time and 3 mil till morning. Well, she was good but I have never paid more than 1. 5mil. So good-bye and back to hotel for snooze.
First trip to Jakarta without sampling the local produce LOL.
I have heard a lot about Red Square from my friends and how its a nice place to pick up normal girls. From my experience, there were not too many normal girls there. Its CJ's with more smoke, less girls and more crowd.
Cheers,
McM
Zeppelin029
10-07-13, 21:00
There's nothing to worry even if you go to BATS. Security is pretty tight there. They don't want shit to happen on their premises.
I have thrown out women who did not honour their part of the agreement and been threatened. Those are just empty threats. Complain about the broad to security at BATS if she really threatened you and they will ban her.
I really don't like to treat women bad or argue for USD20 but like you, I stand by 'principles' LOL.
I normally stay at a 5* hotel and no one is going to come into your room without your permission in South East Asia! PERIOD!
There's nothing to worry even if you go to BATS. Security is pretty tight there. They don't want shit to happen on their premises.
I have thrown out women who did not honour their part of the agreement and been threatened. Those are just empty threats. Complain about the broad to security at BATS if she really threatened you and they will ban her.
I really don't like to treat women bad or argue for USD20 but like you, I stand by 'principles' LOL.
I normally stay at a 5* hotel and no one is going to come into your room without your permission in South East Asia! PERIOD!Good point. Could be applied to anywhere (eg, HK). Threaten the source of their income and watch them go pale. Obviously, agreement over services is a bit different then say, getting the plumber to come in, but a deals a deal. Unfortunately, you can't really take your issues to arbitration. Haha.
Thanks for the replies guys. Anyway it's night 6 and 2am, not sleepy yet so I may as well write a bit.
Day 2
Wandered down to One of the Delta spa branches. For those who don't know, it's has spa / sauna facilitates and massage for 2 hours with HE. Variations of mud therapy, hot stone, shiatsu, body scrub. Ended up with a lovely 19 year old girl, and with her limited English and my hazy Bahasa managed to get by. Actually the highlight of my trip I reckon. I returned twice more, buying her chocolate and some jewellery, little bit attached, alas she gave me her number. Will stay In touch, tho I have no idea when I'll be back. Oh yeah, price is about 580-620k for basic room. ++for drinks, tips, etc.
After this, ended up at Hotel Classic, level 2. Pounced on by a shapely, tall, pretty girl. Average session, over pretty quickly. Suckered into the 2 for 1 Bali Hai deal. I can see why there's a deal, what a terrible beer.
Made my way up to level 5. Not as busy. Made my way over to the far end as there were more girls there, asked Mamasan for girl who can "cakap inggris". Good result, petite, pretty young thing. (Both 20 years old!). Anyway, to the room, she lights up a smoke, tell her it's bad for her health, she tells me drinking is bad. LOL, good point. Nice session.
Money is still 315k for one girl. 450k for two.
Day 3.
Was supposed to meet a girl from DIA who normally works in Medan, but was coming back to Jakarta for the weekend. Had been chatting over what'sapp for few weeks before I left home, anyway she seem keen enough to meet. Mix up earlier in the day, meant I was at Plaza Senayan and she at Grand Indonesia, with her expecting me to meet her there. Unfortunately because my phone was playing up I went home and only got her msgs later saying she was waiting for me. OOP. Profusely apologetic. Anyway, the pm catch up was a spur of the moment thing, was supposed to meet her and friends out that night. I need to add at this point she had said she was looking for a bf, and I fun. I'd already resigned myself to spending lots of money without much in the way of return, but I though why the hell not, least I could say I checked out the legit Jakarta scene, and I spend money on normal clubbing anyway back home.
Initial plan was 11pm at X2. Enquire at about 1015 if that's still on, told more like 1130-12 (she's at the Marriott with her friend BTW) , I say no problem. 1115 I walk out of my hotel and head to 7-11 to grab some gum, msg asking when they're leaving, now I'm told 12. Apparently her friend is there and it's dead. Goes on to say we might be changing venues before saying no, x2 is on. Ok fine, by this time it's 1145. I ask what time they're leaving, now I told in 30 mins. And venue is now Dragonfly.
Getting very jack of this I write that I will be getting into a cab at 1220 and will msg to see if they've left, if not, I say I will not be coming and to have a good night. Alas. 1220 comes and goes, no reply. And nothing since. No apology, nothing. I'm too old to let girls fuck me around like this.
So all dressed up and nowhere to go, I decide to try Blok M. Top Gun busy, everywhere else pretty dead. BTW, what's with the dancing girls periodically being dragged around to various guys in My Bar? Back at Top Gun, one woman introduces me to her "sister". She is 20, from Yogyakarta, slim big eyes, few crooked teeth, and a look which I can best describe as "provincial". Anyway, the other woman is not her sister but her friend, and appears to be pimping her out. Two annoying older women start massaging my back, and require 5k (2 would've been sufficient I guess but I wanted to make sure they would leave) to get rid of. Anyway, we come to terms. 800k for LT (clearly I didn't learn my lesson). Nice enough session in hotel, agreement was to stay til 9-10am. 2 shots. Well, she kos til 11am until I wake her for round 2, snoring being a feature. But s nice girl, I find out her friend is taking a 100k cut so my tip covers that.
Day 4.
Return visit to Delta.
In the evening, decide initially on Hotel Travel, but as I'm passing Sparks Hotel on Mangga Besar I hop out to try the "thematic sex". Room is 850k for 75 mins, and as the name implies, is themed. You have royal suite, doctors office, CT scanner, jail, jungle, train, strip club and a few others. Pick an average size girl, lacklustre session, hampered by complete lack of English. Oh well, did her multiple positions on the couch and desk so fun enough. Damage. 850k for the room so pricey. One other bule guy there wasn't impressed that his requested girl had been allegedly sick for 8 days. Oops.
Was considering kicking on to Ckassic but was shagged (literally) so back home.
Day 5.
Return visit to Delta. I say my goodbyes, I think she is really sad I won't be back. Me too actually, I really do like her.
Return to Classic. Try level 5 first in an attempt to find the girl from before, no such luck. Down to level 2, not a great deal, one Mamasan has me talking to a girl from Bandung, echo then abruptly leaves and is replaced by another girl from Bandung, but not very friendly.
Go for a wander, settle elsewhere. Ask for English speaker, told level 5 is better, considering a return upstairs when a nice girl is plonked in frontof me. A from Jakarta, the tender age of 19, and only her second day at Terminal Classic. Chatty enough girl, retire to room, session not the best, BBBJ for a matter of seconds but I let it pass. I could tell she was new as she couldn't find our room initially haha. She did seem a bit wide-eyed and bushy tailed about everything, asking if I was coming back tomorrow, how many other girls ID been with. Now, I feel I'm nice enough, treat the girls well, show them respect, and was actually worried that being day 2, some douchebag is going to ruin her outlook on everything. I tell her to try and get out when she can, but she tells me her parents need to eat. This isn't me being sanctimonious, just genuine concern for her. Alas, what to do.
So ends my time here, on the whole, the Indonesian girls I've been with seem to have been more attractive than in the Philippines, though that could just be bad choices. Hard pressed to say who is more attractive.
Not sure why so many Indo guys go to places like Classsic, most don't seem to be doing much banging. And how do they seem to keep the girls forever and ever without being hassles to take them?
So, Jakarta, good place for good fun, though not much else to do here. Not as well spelled out as in somewhere like Thailand or Angeles, but then where is? If you like your girls pretty and brown, moderate build, long black hair, Indonesia is a good place. Only thing you will struggle with is the language, unless you stick to the bule orientated places of Bats etc and Blok M.
Next stop, Pattaya! Land of more slim Brown girls. Yes I doing the Brown girl black hair tour of Asia. Huzzah!
Member #4410
10-07-13, 22:02
I've never seen the point in trying to negotiate with a freelancer over LT because they will almost certainly give you the "capek" excuse after the first shot, so if you want a proper LT, go book them on-site at King's Cross, Stadium etc, because this way she knows you can complain if she didn't service you but it's expensive.
By the way, Blok M ST is 750, 00k + taxi, if they won't budge then try later before closing time they might change their minds and in my experience always worked especially if it's a weekday not a weekend.It's been two years since my last take-away from Blok M, so thanks for the update. In these two years I have gone for Maribaya girls who are happy to make house calls and occasionally bring along a non-Maribaya friend.
Rates for BBBJ's in the VIP room have gone up last year, but seeing your other Blok M post this looks to be depending on the individual girl.
Will see next time.
Regards,
Ko
Member #4410
10-07-13, 22:10
I know a few, but not many. There are some Pretty Woman stories from the blok where the girl remained faithful and the marriage worked out well, believe it or not.Agree. I haven't seen either Sari or Novi Kecil back in Blok M. The Maribaya mamasan says they are both married and I wish them both well. They fully deserve it, although as the selfish bastard that I sometimes am I would love to see them back. As I would love to encounter Shella.
Regards,
Ko
I've never seen the point in trying to negotiate with a freelancer over LT because they will almost certainly give you the "capek" excuse after the first shot, so if you want a proper LT, go book them on-site at King's Cross, Stadium etc, because this way she knows you can complain if she didn't service you but it's expensive.
By the way, Blok M ST is 750, 00k + taxi, if they won't budge then try later before closing time they might change their minds and in my experience always worked especially if it's a weekday not a weekend.Its all about attitude and chemistry. Some girls are straight liars for money and say anything to get into your room. Once in, their surface of friendliness is changing and you deal with a starfish or crack-w#re. Some are selective on their partner and may forego a good offer if they not feel comfortable with the guy.
Last week I did roam TopHat and the alikes. Pulled 2 times girls out on different dates before midnight. All did ask for 1Juta. And both finally agreed on 600. 000 to stay LT at least till 8:00 am next morning, and they did!
One of them a real nymphomaniac: got sore and had to pause one day because of her.
One of them a real nymphomaniac: got sore and had to pause one day because of her.Sounds like you must've struck Raney out of TG. Sit her there cowgirl and she will ride all night or as long as you can take it, orgasming countless times, the archetypical 'happy hooker'. A real bonus is she's always fun and never greedy. Never met anyone like her in 30 years! As she leaves, always asking with a smile 'you sure you don't want one more. ? ' Our kind of gal.
Master Diver II
10-08-13, 10:33
Day 3.
Was supposed to meet a girl from DIA who normally works in Medan, but was coming back to Jakarta for the weekend. Had been chatting over what'sapp for few weeks before I left home, anyway she seem keen enough to meet. Mix up earlier in the day, meant I was at Plaza Senayan and she at Grand Indonesia, with her expecting me to meet her there. Unfortunately because my phone was playing up I went home and only got her msgs later saying she was waiting for me. OOP. Profusely apologetic. Anyway, the pm catch up was a spur of the moment thing, was supposed to meet her and friends out that night. I need to add at this point she had said she was looking for a bf, and I fun. I'd already resigned myself to spending lots of money without much in the way of return, but I though why the hell not, least I could say I checked out the legit Jakarta scene, and I spend money on normal clubbing anyway back home.
Initial plan was 11pm at X2. Enquire at about 1015 if that's still on, told more like 1130-12 (she's at the Marriott with her friend BTW) , I say no problem. 1115 I walk out of my hotel and head to 7-11 to grab some gum, msg asking when they're leaving, now I'm told 12. Apparently her friend is there and it's dead. Goes on to say we might be changing venues before saying no, x2 is on. Ok fine, by this time it's 1145. I ask what time they're leaving, now I told in 30 mins. And venue is now Dragonfly.
Getting very jack of this I write that I will be getting into a cab at 1220 and will msg to see if they've left, if not, I say I will not be coming and to have a good night. Alas. 1220 comes and goes, no reply. And nothing since. No apology, nothing. I'm too old to let girls fuck me around like this.
Day 5.
Return visit to Delta. I say my goodbyes, I think she is really sad I won't be back. Me too actually, I really do like her.Menteng and Jad advised me several years back to make at least one back up date and never to wait more than half an hour for a girl (that's why you need a back up). Mind you it does sound like your girl was using you as a back up plan too. It's happened to more of us than we'd care to admit. The Plaza Senayan / Grand Indo sounds like a convenient excuse too if you ask me. You should probably have tried to get your Delta girl out in the daytime sometime. It might just have reaped some rewards. I almost fell down laughing when you mentioned chocolates as that's my MO too:D.
Usual trip to Jakarta. Was staying at the Mulia. Went down to CJ's to check out the scene. Was there on a Wednesday (Ladies Nite). Really crowded and sorry to say that CJ's has seen much better days with regards to the girls available. Ratio of 60:40 / men:women. Not a good ratio for punting.
Just casually walked around and surveyed the scene. Got talking to a few. One girl was slim and was chatty. Just continued chatting until 2 and she said that she was sleepy. I said that she could sleep in my room. Unfortunately, both of us were not carrying condoms. So just went to sleep. Little McM woke a few times in the nite but somehow goaded him to sleep.
Could not do for long. Played around with her tits and she 'woke up'. Handjob for me. Tried to push her head down but no luck. Finished and went back to sleep. In the morning, gave her 200K for the privilege of her company. She said 'All pay 1 Juta'. I said that they pay for sex while she should be paying me for sleeping in a nice room. Anyway, gave her 300K. I should not have paid but I was really in no mood to argue and wanted to go back to sleep.
First trip to Jakarta without sampling the local produce LOL.
I have heard a lot about Red Square from my friends and how its a nice place to pick up normal girls. From my experience, there were not too many normal girls there. Its CJ's with more smoke, less girls and more crowd.
McMI know how it is to stick to your guns and go back empty. CJs prices have long since become very inflated and hardly worth it. Most of the P4P girls there are pretty mercenary. I'm not surprised the girl asked you for 1 juta. Red Square depends on the ratio and your luck. Those other guys must have been desperate as well as rude. I wouldn't cut in on a negotiation like that, or accept those prices. That's why I've given up this "fishing" for some time now and moved into the dating scene.
MD II
Viet Lover
10-08-13, 13:55
Sorry to pose a question my first time on the Indonesia board, but I have contributed on the Vietnam and Macau board. I haven't gone to Jakarta yet, but may plan a trip soon. I wanted to know if they have saunas much like Macau. Especially looking for saunas that would have Vietnamese girls working. Not looking to pick up from the street or clubs. Just my preference. I enjoy the sauna atmosphere. Much appreciated.
Member #4537
10-08-13, 14:15
Last week I did roam TopHat and the alikes. Pulled 2 times girls out on different dates before midnight. All did ask for 1Juta. And both finally agreed on 600. 000 to stay LT at least till 8:00 am next morning, and they did! .I assume you meant TopGun. Yes. 600k for LT is definitely a good deal. Which day of the week was it and what time?
Fast Eddie 48
10-08-13, 18:56
Sorry to pose a question my first time on the Indonesia board, but I have contributed on the Vietnam and Macau board. I haven't gone to Jakarta yet, but may plan a trip soon. I wanted to know if they have saunas much like Macau. Especially looking for saunas that would have Vietnamese girls working. Not looking to pick up from the street or clubs. Just my preference. I enjoy the sauna atmosphere. Much appreciated.To Viet Lover.
The Sauna in Macau is much better than in Jarkata girl Quality is better but Jarkata also have some nice KTV and club much larger than the Macau sauna place like Alexis, Mailboro and Sumo are entertainment center with everything price is cheaper than Macau.
Fast Eddie 48
Mighty Spearsman
10-09-13, 06:21
To Viet Lover.
The Sauna in Macau is much better than in Jakarta girl Quality is better but Jarkata also have some nice KTV and club much larger than the Macau sauna place like Alexis, Mailboro and Sumo are entertainment center with everything price is cheaper than Macau.
Fast Eddie 48.
Sorry to pose a question my first time on the Indonesia board, but I have contributed on the Vietnam and Macau board. I haven't gone to Jakarta yet, but may plan a trip soon. I wanted to know if they have saunas much like Macau. Especially looking for saunas that would have Vietnamese girls working. Not looking to pick up from the street or clubs. Just my preference. I enjoy the sauna atmosphere. Much appreciated.As Fast Eddie said, your best bets for a true sauna are Malioboro (more-or-less in central Jakarta), Alexis (in the northern part of Jakarta near the ocean, and the most expensive of the 3 places) and Sumo Shiatsu (located in northeastern Jakarta in Kelapa Gading, a good 30 minute ride by taxi). I like all 3 places but Malioboro may be the easiest to deal with, both location and price-wise.
But I doubt if you'll find many Vietnamese girls in any of those places. If you're really set on finding a sauna in Jakarta with Vietnamese girls, you should contact Jakarta After Dark 2, who's most likely to know (you can find him at the beginning of the Classified Ads section, his member name is "Jkt After Dark 2").
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