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Smoothy
12-14-13, 12:59
On one of the nights I choose a girl in Hotel Travel, she asked whether I wanted her friend to join, for a total of 475 000 rupiah (USD 40, not bad eh). I was very in doubt, I have hardly ever enjoyed a threesome. But in the end I let her invite her friend over so I could have a look. Man was she gorgeous. I almost wanted to exchange the first girl for the second, but in the end I gave in to the threesome proposition. I tried to clear all details in advance, cunnilingus, kissing, be loving, but it was difficult without much language. And Indos always say yes-yes with a smile no matter what. It was a big mistake. The girls were ice cold. They talked continuously among themselves. They checked their mobile phones. Blowjob was only covered. They wanted me to fuck only one of them (I ultimately managed to get the other one too, but both were starfish). I tried to get one to sandwich me while I fucked her friend, but she couldn't / wouldn't really understand what I wanted. They used disinfectant napkins to disinfect my nipples before sucking them (!). I tried many times to say, both before cutting the deal and as things spiralled downwards in the room that I would tip if they treated me nice, not tip if not."Yes-yes." Then in the end I cut it off after about 30 minutes, put on my clothes and got out. They were very upset. They half tried to hold back the bracelet with my number, which you need to get out of the complex again. I know from other girls that they only get 80 rupiah out of the 325 (when you have one girl) , so they are totally dependent on the tip. I would not have insisted on the BBBJ since it does have a medical rationale, but the total disrespect, lack of even a little massage or anything kind of friendliness etc. Was unreasonable.In my opinion, that's a pretty good description of a standard experience at Hotel Travel. The girls are young and good looking, but they are indifferent once they get in the room. Of all the knock shops in town, I think that place almost without fail has the girls who provide the worst service in Jakarta. It's an indication that management there does not train the girls well. And it's not because of the "language barrier", I speak Indonesian and still find the service there to be crap. Between the bad service from the girls and the local Indonesian guys there singing karaoke poorly at a loud volume in the main room, I find Hotel Travel to be a place to be avoided.

Cucumber
12-14-13, 20:31
In my opinion, that's a pretty good description of a standard experience at Hotel Travel.Just spent five hours in Hotel Classic, had four girls. It was better than last night in Hotel Travel. All girls were ok in bed, one gave great GFE and one was not so expert, but 18, a little shy and quite curious with a body that was so perfect it was surreal, in spite of tattoos (which are not my taste). All except one did BBBJ, all we happy or very happy about DATY. The mamasan's were not so pushy, some of them let me do a little interviewing. All the girls had listerine for mutual mouth rincing before action. Which I think is a good idea for someone with my (or their) turnover rate if you don't want to come down with the flu or something worse.

But if Travel sucks, what is the best knock shop in town then?

Mighty Spearsman
12-15-13, 00:00
. i found the girls in hotel travel and hotel classic very beautiful. .

but that is as long as you don't require tall girls, which there not that many of. most have firm breasts, tight young bodies, pretty faces.

the rooms are clean and well kept, but have no windows. each has a shower cubicle with a glass wall. it is a delight to watch a sexy young thing through the glass as she soaps her self in, sticks a couple of fingers up her pussy for a thorough wash, perhaps squats and [CodeWord133] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord133). fine art as far as i am concerned.

a nice thing i enjoyed both in the hotel classic and travel and stadium is that you pass by small crews of cleaners and managers going about their work in the maze of corridors. all in uniforms, some fat or old, but some young, plain but attractive. sometimes they would flirt, say you have a nice nose or something (seems indos have a thing about white noses, nothing special about mine). i tried to hit on a couple of them. no success, but it did not seem impossible. and after all i was on my way to fuck a very beautiful 20-year old, so leeway was limited.

i used the services of jakartaafterdark. com. it was helpful to have him along, especially in hotel classic and and travel, which can be challenging to negotiate without bahasa.i enjoyed your excellent, well-written report and wanted to comment on some of your points:

- yes, there are usually very few tall girls, as the average javanese girl appears to be 4' 10" to 5 feet tall. and while most have small to medium, sized breasts, their breasts are definitely nice and firm until they have a child.

- loved the image of watching the girl take a shower, brings back great memories.

- if you saw an attractive female cleaner / manager / employee in either place and wanted to hit on her, give her your cell phone number and its a guarantee that she'll call you later for a rendevous after her shift is over.

- glad to read that you used jad (jakarata after dark). money well spent for any visitor on a tight schedule.

Cm6363
12-15-13, 11:32
Gents, thank you for informative posts on Jakarta. I hope people don't mind if I ask for insight on how best to manage a short time frame.

I am flying from Bangkok to Jakarta to Yogyakarta (for the temples) to Bali covering only four days / nights. I have found flights that work if this itinerary makes sense, so I welcome any and all input.

Fly late morning to Jakarta Day 1, spend two nights and 1 day in Jakarta.

Fly early morning to Yogyakarta, spend 1-1/2 days. 2 nights seeing temples.

Fly early morning to Bali.

(It may be a better idea to leave Yogyakarta on the last night, but getting a hotel in Bali on Friday of New Years week could be difficult)

I am concerned about traffic in Jakarta, especially getting to and from the airport. What would be the best area / place to stay for access to the fun and getting into and out of Jakarta? I was going to just book at Mercure Kota, but now I am wondering if it is better to stay in Sanur. (Kudos for the excellent Sanur map BTW.) Budget is (nice) 1 star to (inexpensive) 3 star.

If anyone has a suggestion for a girl friendly hotel in Yogyakarta and suggestions for finding ladies there, that would be helpful too.

John Aldrich
12-15-13, 21:44
Gents, thank you for informative posts on Jakarta. I hope people don't mind if I ask for insight on how best to manage a short time frame.

I am flying from Bangkok to Jakarta to Yogyakarta (for the temples) to Bali covering only four days / nights. I have found flights that work if this itinerary makes sense, so I welcome any and all input.

Fly late morning to Jakarta Day 1, spend two nights and 1 day in Jakarta.

Fly early morning to Yogyakarta, spend 1-1/2 days. 2 nights seeing temples.

Fly early morning to Bali.

(It may be a better idea to leave Yogyakarta on the last night, but getting a hotel in Bali on Friday of New Years week could be difficult)

I am concerned about traffic in Jakarta, especially getting to and from the airport. What would be the best area / place to stay for access to the fun and getting into and out of Jakarta? I was going to just book at Mercure Kota, but now I am wondering if it is better to stay in Sanur. (Kudos for the excellent Sanur map BTW.) Budget is (nice) 1 star to (inexpensive) 3 star.

If anyone has a suggestion for a girl friendly hotel in Yogyakarta and suggestions for finding ladies there, that would be helpful too.The schedule is fine. But Sanur is in Bali and not in Jakarta. Mercure Kota is in the heart of mongering district of North Jakarta.

Have fun,

Cheers

Kadoma
12-24-13, 09:46
I know this information is probably buried deep in a thread somewhere, but not too recent as I've tried to check.

Can anyone give me the name and address of a shop in Jakarta (as opposed to an online supplier) that sells good quality dildos and vibrators? Especially interested in double dildos.

Many thanks, any advice appreciated.

Member #4537
12-24-13, 16:54
I know this information is probably buried deep in a thread somewhere, but not too recent as I've tried to check.

Can anyone give me the name and address of a shop in Jakarta (as opposed to an online supplier) that sells good quality dildos and vibrators? Especially interested in double dildos.

Many thanks, any advice appreciated.Not sure what makes a quality dildo or vibrator, but I bought some last year in one of the many stalls that sell Viagra in Jln Hayam Wuruk opposite Stadium. It's not in plain view so you have to ask the guy and he'll bring them out.

Mighty Spearsman
12-24-13, 18:45
I know this information is probably buried deep in a thread somewhere, but not too recent as I've tried to check.

Can anyone give me the name and address of a shop in Jakarta (as opposed to an online supplier) that sells good quality dildos and vibrators? Especially interested in double dildos.

Many thanks, any advice appreciated.Go to the 2nd floor of Mal Ambassador (on Jalan Prof. Dr. Satrio, in the Kuningan section of Jakarta, near the Marriott) and walk to the bridge where it connects to the adjacent mall known as ITC Kuningan. On your right hand side is a booth / stall that sells what you're looking for. You shouldn't have any problems finding the booth / stall, as one of the attractive young sales girls will probably approach you as you walk by and try to sell you Viagra.

Good luck! And Happy Holidays to all.

Manfield04
12-24-13, 20:36
I stayed at Hotel Batik in Yogyakarta. I think I had paid 425 000 Rupiah for a double room / cottage. It was a nice hotel with swimming pool. You can get a free airport pick up. It's GF.

You can find many GF hotels along Jalan Sosrowijayan, which is perpendicular to Jalan Maliaboro.


If anyone has a suggestion for a girl friendly hotel in Yogyakarta and suggestions for finding ladies there, that would be helpful too.

Gonzo Two
12-26-13, 07:14
Go to the 2nd floor of Mal Ambassador (on Jalan Prof. Dr. Satrio, in the Kuningan section of Jakarta, near the Marriott) and walk to the bridge where it connects to the adjacent mall known as ITC Kuningan. On your right hand side is a booth / stall that sells what you're looking for. You shouldn't have any problems finding the booth / stall, as one of the attractive young sales girls will probably approach you as you walk by and try to sell you Viagra.MS, I've bought stuff from that stall, but I didn't have such proactive sales staff. The first time I went, I wasn't sure I had the right place and there were no signs that they were selling anything other than general bric-a-brac. I just took the risk of looking slightly foolish and asked, no problem, but it wasn't THAT easy to find the right place.

Member #4537
12-26-13, 19:31
So not only did they get rid of the wine cellar room girls at 350k, which was a bad idea, they've now upped the price for import chicks regardless of nationality at 2,000,000 a pop. To make matters worse, the quantity and quality of girls particularly from China has gone way down more than I have ever seen in the past 4 years. Looks like I won't be able to get the odd China doll anymore.

I haven't checked Alexis or Bunker yet, but my guess is they probably raised the price there too. Will have to check and report later.

Member #4410
12-27-13, 01:23
So not only did they get rid of the wine cellar room girls at 350k, which was a bad idea, they've now upped the price for import chics regardless of nationality at 2. 000. 000 a pop. To make matters worse, the quantity and quality of girls particularly from China has gone way down more than I have ever seen in the past 4 years. Looks like I won't be able to get the odd China doll anymore.

I haven't checked Alexis or Bunker yet, but my guess is they probably raised the price there too. Will have to check and report later.Which only asserts my question: why go to Indonesia to score an expensive Russian, Uzbek, Chinese or whatever girl when Indonesian girls are so pretty and so readily available?

Regards,

Ko

Bkk212
12-27-13, 02:52
Back in Jakarta for a few weeks and already had sticker shock. Girls and there are few of quality are now quoting me 800K, some even 1M for short time.

Wow has the prices changed that much.

At first didn't feel up to haggling but eventually had to as the going rate seems to be fixed. Negotiated down to 400k for short time, she stayed the night and then asked for me to help her out with her rent, so in the end I paid 800k.

Hopefully this w / e the choices will be a bit more delicious.

Plan to try out Hotel Classic if I can ever find it, will report later on.

Smoothy
12-27-13, 03:04
Back in Jakarta for a few weeks and already had sticker shock. Girls and there are few of quality are now quoting me 800K, some even 1M for short time.

Wow has the prices changed that much.

At first didn't feel up to haggling but eventually had to as the going rate seems to be fixed. Negotiated down to 400k for short time, she stayed the night and then asked for me to help her out with her rent, so in the end I paid 800k.Have any photos? I'm curious about quality.

Hilo77
12-27-13, 04:47
Back in Jakarta for a few weeks and already had sticker shock. Girls and there are few of quality are now quoting me 800K, some even 1M for short time.

Wow has the prices changed that much.

At first didn't feel up to haggling but eventually had to as the going rate seems to be fixed. Negotiated down to 400k for short time, she stayed the night and then asked for me to help her out with her rent, so in the end I paid 800k.No need to negotiate up front, if they stay for short time give them 400 as they are leaving, if long time 800, some might pout and say "tambahin dong", just smile, ask them for their HP number (implying that you'd like to meet them again) and show them to the door.

Hotel Classic is in Pasar Baru, north of Harmoni but south of Mangga Besar, it is a big hotel complex within a shopping mall, it's well sign-posted and any Bluebird taxi will take you there. Basement is pricey and up market, second and fifth floor are basically warehouses. You should have no difficulty locating it and the services you require.

Hola Mundo
12-27-13, 05:47
This is a soapy massage type place like in Thailand. It is easy to find with the directions provided in this forum. There are few places before it, and they tried to flag me down, but I continued.

Compared to the normal Indonesian girls in hotel Classic or Travel, girls here are on the larger side, I have to ask for a small (kecil) and the had one. I probably was the only customer around 8:00pm among 20 or so girls. Most were interested.

Massage and sex were excellent, and the only negatives were girls insisting on more tip and condom charge in the end.

Total Damage: 510k.

Girl.

100k (tip) +

10k (condom charge)

Mamasan

350k+

40k (Bintang) +

10k (tip)

Horncheong
12-27-13, 06:33
So not only did they get rid of the wine cellar room girls at 350k, which was a bad idea, they've now upped the price for import chics regardless of nationality at 2. 000. 000 a pop. To make matters worse, the quantity and quality of girls particularly from China has gone way down more than I have ever seen in the past 4 years. Looks like I won't be able to get the odd China doll anymore.

I haven't checked Alexis or Bunker yet, but my guess is they probably raised the price there too. Will have to check and report later.Went to Alexis 2 weeks ago. Price for all foreign ladies increased to 2. 35mil per pop. Even local ladies also increased to 1. 35mil. When asked why the increase, the reply from mamasan was due to drop in rupiah currency. Damn.

TimTimGuy
12-27-13, 08:02
Back in Jakarta for a few weeks and already had sticker shock. Girls and there are few of quality are now quoting me 800K, some even 1M for short time.

Wow has the prices changed that much.In the ISG forum, I do not to get into discussions about payments or tips or anything about financial transactions between men and women, but for international travelers, I don't see the 'sticker shock'. The real cost of sex in Indonesia for visitors, or those paid in foreign exchange is actually a bargin. The rapid depreciation in the Indonesian rupiah (relative, for example, to the US dollar) is a real factor (positive) for tourists to keep in mind.

First, for the record, I agree that 800k IDR is too much to pay, based on the existing market. Second, again for the record, what you pay or tip is none of my business, and what I pay or tip is none of your business.

Having said all that, the 800k IDR that the girls may be looking to get is about US$65 currently, but was US$88 and change in December 2011. A more realistic 'ask' of 500k IDR is worth about US$41 today, as opposed to US$55 two years ago.

I travel back and forth to Thailand and that US$65 is about 2k THB, which is probably on the high end of the fee scale for short-term arrangements, but not an unusual asking price. (And, I think, often paid.) So, Indonesia is currently 'on sale' for tourists. The hundred dollar bill brings about 1. 2 million at the money exchange, not 880k as in the recent past.

Happy new year. Selamat tahun baru. TTG

Member #4537
12-27-13, 10:47
Which only asserts my question: why go to Indonesia to score an expensive Russian, Uzbek, Chinese or whatever girl when Indonesian girls are so pretty and so readily available?

Regards,

KoAs someone who lives here and not on holiday, an import girl once or twice a month doesn't hurt when one has local nearly everyday.

Smoothy
12-27-13, 11:40
If it was true that you can pull "quality" girls for 400k short time and 800k long time, then I'd agree. But I don't see that in Jakarta these days. I would compare the quality of the blok m girls to the Beirgarten girls in Bangkok or the girls in front of Nana plaza. The gogo girls are more comparable to the girls you find in CJs. The prices in Thailand are cheaper than in Jakarta. Beirgarten and Nana girls go for 1000 baht short time and 1500 baht long time. It's the gogo girls who are getting 2000 baht short time and 3000 to even 4000 baht long time. A girl from CJs wants over 1 million rupiah even for a short time. The last time I was in CJs, I couldn't get a top quality girl to agree to go home for all night for less than 2 million rupiah. And even then, they were wanting to go home at 6am. It seems they are factoring the devaluation of the rupiah into their price because that is about 165 USD for the night (about 5000 thai baht).

Mighty Spearsman
12-27-13, 19:27
This is a soapy massage type place like in Thailand. It is easy to find with the directions provided in this forum. There are few places before it, and they tried to flag me down, but I continued.

Compared to the normal Indonesian girls in hotel Classic or Travel, girls here are on the larger side, I have to ask for a small (kecil) and the had one. I probably was the only customer around 8:00pm among 20 or so girls. Most were interested.

Massage and sex were excellent, and the only negatives were girls insisting on more tip and condom charge in the end.

Total Damage: 510k.

Girl.

100k (tip) +

10k (condom charge)

Mamasan

350k+

40k (Bintang) +

10k (tip) Glad you made it to Kartika and had a good time there.

I don't recall being asked for a condom charge but that may be new.

I'm not surprised that the girl asked for a bigger tip, sometimes that would happen to me but it was always done good-naturedly. 100K is all you need to give as a tip. I've never had any problems as a result of saying no, so don't be afraid to leave 100, 000 rupiah and no more. Remember, most local guys would leave less than that as a tip.

Keep in mind that the girl doesn't get to keep most of the house fee (I believe they get to keep 80K or 100K) so they will always want to get a good tip. Plus, many of the girls here may only have one or two customers a day, depending on business. Since you were there around 8 pm and your session lasted an hour, there's a good possibility that you would have been the last customer of the night (unless she has an outcall appointment afterwards) , so she was motivated to ask for a little extra.

Smoothy
12-27-13, 20:48
I don't recall being asked for a condom charge but that may be new.I'm not sure about Kartika, but I've noticed most places don't have a condom charge anymore. In the past, if I wanted a condom, they charged 10, 000 extra for that. I'm guessing because it was rare for anyone to want to wear a condom in those places. Nowadays, the norm is for the girl to come to the room with a condom of her own provided by the place. Then again, if you ask her not to use it, she normally will still bareback, but at least there isn't a condom fee for those who do want to use it.

Kadoma
12-30-13, 06:26
Go to the 2nd floor of Mal Ambassador (on Jalan Prof. Dr. Satrio, in the Kuningan section of Jakarta, near the Marriott) and walk to the bridge where it connects to the adjacent mall known as ITC Kuningan. On your right hand side is a booth / stall that sells what you're looking for. You shouldn't have any problems finding the booth / stall, as one of the attractive young sales girls will probably approach you as you walk by and try to sell you Viagra.

Good luck! And Happy Holidays to all.Thanks to all those that replied. I've been in the Sumatran jungle for a while so no Internet.

Will give those places a try when I'm next in Jakarta in mid January.

I'm also not sure what comprises a 'quality' toy, and don't intend to be inserting them in myself to find out! That judgement I'll leave to the girls who are keen for me to find one. They've certainly done it all before so should be good judges!

Cheers,

Kadoma

Bkk212
12-31-13, 05:17
No need to negotiate up front, if they stay for short time give them 400 as they are leaving, if long time 800, some might pout and say "tambahin dong", just smile, ask them for their HP number (implying that you'd like to meet them again) and show them to the door.

Hotel Classic is in Pasar Baru, north of Harmoni but south of Mangga Besar, it is a big hotel complex within a shopping mall, it's well sign-posted and any Bluebird taxi will take you there. Basement is pricey and up market, second and fifth floor are basically warehouses. You should have no difficulty locating it and the services you require.Your advice worked fine, this is my new modus operandi from now on. Saves a lot of unnecessary talking in My Bar. Seems as though they expect that amount because they think I know the ropes. The first night I guessed I looked like a rookie in the bar, thanks dude. Will try Classic in the New Year, thanks for the directions.

I don't have any pictures but the choices are very slim, I will rarely approach the sexy girls but the average ones are quite below average.

Bkk212
12-31-13, 05:22
Bought some V in Blok M, there is a 24hr pharmacy that sells them. I tried to find those other places listed in the forum, Ie. Lokarisi Plaza, outside Stadium but couldn't find these places. So tried exploring on my own and found this location.

Smoothy
12-31-13, 07:53
Photos please. Price is meaningless unless we see quality.

Bkk212
12-31-13, 11:42
Photos please. Price is meaningless unless we see quality.Yes I agree photos are helpful, however I don't have a camera nor a cell phone with a camera. And yes many have tried to convince me to get an upgrade.

But my argument is need / wants etc. Etc.

I am just not the photo type of person. If I can get the girls to take pics I will upload to the forum.

Happy New year 2014 to all the forum members

Smoothy
12-31-13, 14:59
No camera at all? Seems a waste of prime opportunities. If you are interested, I can loan you an old kodak camera that uses film that I never use anymore. It still works if they still sell and develop film these days.

I'll post a pic of a chick from My Bar here. Is she the one you took home? She's popular. She had her own car and driver waiting there just outside My Bar already rented out so she could make quick short time runs, thus I didn't have to pay for a taxi or "parking". That was a savings. That works great for me since I never want them to stay more than an hour anyway. The old joke is "How do you define eternity in Jakarta? When you have cum, but the taxi has not come."

Psychman
01-02-14, 00:03
No camera at all? Seems a waste of prime opportunities. If you are interested, I can loan you an old kodak camera that uses film that I never use anymore. It still works if they still sell and develop film these days.

I'll post a pic of a chick from My Bar here. Is she the one you took home? She's popular. She had her own car and driver waiting there just outside My Bar already rented out so she could make quick short time runs, thus I didn't have to pay for a taxi or "parking". That was a savings. That works great for me since I never want them to stay more than an hour anyway. The old joke is "How do you define eternity in Jakarta? When you have cum, but the taxi has not come."Of course the man can afford a camera; he chooses not to. I have zero desire to ever take a picture while mongering. It is not about trophy hunting for others, its about enjoying each and every moment to the fullest. If for you that includes pictures, great. But for many of us, it just detracts from the experience. Don't assume your way of mongering is THE way.

Menteng
01-02-14, 09:52
Of course the man can afford a camera; he chooses not to. I have zero desire to ever take a picture while mongering. It is not about trophy hunting for others, its about enjoying each and every moment to the fullest. If for you that includes pictures, great. But for many of us, it just detracts from the experience. Don't assume your way of mongering is THE way.Don't you take pictures on vacation etc, to enjoy afterwards?

Member #4698
01-02-14, 14:46
There are three main reasons I like to take photos of my girls. The first reason I like to take photos of the girls is in order to preserve the memories. I shag 30 plus women per trip. There is no other way to remember the girls accurately. The memory fades if I just leave it in my head. The second reason I photograph the girls is for quality control. The camera does not lie. When I take a look at the photos of girls starting 6 months after a trip I get an accurate reading of how well I scored. I stopped taking girls out of MBC in Manila because of the after trip horror show I saw with too many of my girls from there. Ha! Ha! They were all really nice girls who always gave me a good time, but if I were to rate them honestly, I would have to say they were all 4. 5* out 10, maybe a couple 5*out of 10 at best and that is being very kind. Point: If you are too embarrassed to show a girl's photo to a friend, then you know you have sunk a little too low unless you are into that sort of thing. The third reason I like to take photos is that it is a lot of fun. Some girls really love to pose for the camera. It can really jump start a session. In certain bars I know, the girls go wild as soon as I take out my Canon pocket camera. They all want to get in on the fun. On the other hand, I will put the camera away if a girl is uncomfortable with it.

So do your own thing, but I highly recommend giving it a try. It is all about having a good time and preserving the memories.

Smoothy
01-02-14, 16:00
I stopped taking girls out of MBC in Manila because of the after trip horror show I saw with too many of my girls from there. Ha! Ha! They were all really nice girls who always gave me a good time, but if I were to rate them honestly, I would have to say they were all 4. 5* out 10, maybe a couple 5*out of 10 at best and that is being very kind. Point: If you are too embarrassed to show a girl's photo to a friend, then you know you have sunk a little too low unless you are into that sort of thing.I find that my standards drop or raise based on the quality of the girls wherever I may be. In a bar with all ugly girls, the best looking of the uglies will likely be my date for the evening if I'm lucky. Haha. I think Blok M is a good example of that. I don't think there is much quality on Blok M these days. It's still good fun though.

Member #4698
01-02-14, 17:19
I find that my standards drop or raise based on the quality of the girls wherever I may be. In a bar with all ugly girls, the best looking of the uglies will likely be my date for the evening if I'm lucky. Haha. I think Blok M is a good example of that. I don't think there is much quality on Blok M these days. It's still good fun though.That was my experience at MBC, the OT, and Soi Six. You know; you walk into a joint, sit down, have a beer, get acclimated and pretty soon your viewpoint starts to get anchored to the standards of the bar. This behavioral phenomenon usually has its strongest effect on me the first night of a trip or the first night in a new town. I will be visiting Jakarta for the first time in less than 60 days. The Blok M bars are definitely on my must do list, but I will not be starting out there. I plan on hitting the higher end brothel places first and get my tastes anchored at these establishments before I venture further a field. I have been with some very pretty Indonesian girls in Batam, Singapore, Macau, HKG, and even Amsterdam of all places. I expect to hit the mother lode in Jakarta! I sure hope there will be some pretty girls in Blok M by the time I visit. Your Hany looks good. But if I don't see any attractive Blok M girls, I will barhop a little and then just move on. I am really looking forward to Jakarta. I think it is going to be great.

Bkk212
01-02-14, 17:23
No camera at all? Seems a waste of prime opportunities. If you are interested, I can loan you an old kodak camera that uses film that I never use anymore. It still works if they still sell and develop film these days.

I'll post a pic of a chick from My Bar here. Is she the one you took home? She's popular. She had her own car and driver waiting there just outside My Bar already rented out so she could make quick short time runs, thus I didn't have to pay for a taxi or "parking". That was a savings. That works great for me since I never want them to stay more than an hour anyway. The old joke is "How do you define eternity in Jakarta? When you have cum, but the taxi has not come."Ok about the camera thanks for the loan, but I am just not a picture person. I saw someone wrote that he takes pics for memories, well I don't really want memories of these 'below average ' girls. If I find a gem I will try my best to get a photo.

About your friend I didn't seen her in My Bar on 31st I know as I scouted all 17 girls that were there, the 2 cute ones got taken very early. But I did go to Top gun on 1st and there she was standing in the doorway, she propositioned my friend but he wasn't interested. So she is still around.

Member #4698
01-02-14, 17:34
I don't really want memories of these 'below average ' girls. If I find a gem I will try my best to get a photo.If a girl is "below average," why do her?

Smoothy
01-02-14, 18:02
Ok about the camera thanks for the loan, but I am just not a picture person.No worries.

As far as taking below average chicks, I think that goes back to the fact that there really aren't that many lookers on the Blok. So you end up taking the best of what's available. As long as you enjoy yourself, it's all good. I'm just saying that whatever money you give these girls isn't a set rate. It's not a given that any girl on the Blok is 400k for a short time. It depends on the popularity of the girl and the amount of competition that night. That Hany girl is nothing special, but she's young and firm and has nice breasts. Unfortunately, she's one of the better girls on the Blok these days from what I see. After a few beers, many of the uglier girls turn into gems anyway.

Fast Eddie 48
01-02-14, 21:11
There are three main reasons I like to take photos of my girls. The first reason I like to take photos of the girls is in order to preserve the memories. I shag 30 plus women per trip. There is no other way to remember the girls accurately. The memory fades if I just leave it in my head. The second reason I photograph the girls is for quality control. The camera does not lie. When I take a look at the photos of girls starting 6 months after a trip I get an accurate reading of how well I scored. I stopped taking girls out of MBC in Manila because of the after trip horror show I saw with too many of my girls from there. Ha! Ha! They were all really nice girls who always gave me a good time, but if I were to rate them honestly, I would have to say they were all 4. 5* out 10, maybe a couple 5*out of 10 at best and that is being very kind. Point: If you are too embarrassed to show a girl's photo to a friend, then you know you have sunk a little too low unless you are into that sort of thing. The third reason I like to take photos is that it is a lot of fun. Some girls really love to pose for the camera. It can really jump start a session. In certain bars I know, the girls go wild as soon as I take out my Canon pocket camera. They all want to get in on the fun. On the other hand, I will put the camera away if a girl is uncomfortable with it.

So do your own thing, but I highly recommend giving it a try. It is all about having a good time and preserving the memories.To Natty Bumpo.

I do mongering all over the World most girl will allow me to take Picture except for China and S Korea most PRC are very shy about having their picture taking, I pick a girl at Millie disco few month ago she love having picture even allow video on my smart phone she love to show off her hot body.

Fast Eddie 48

Bkk212
01-03-14, 05:15
No worries.

As far as taking below average chicks, I think that goes back to the fact that there really aren't that many lookers on the Blok. So you end up taking the best of what's available. As long as you enjoy yourself, it's all good. I'm just saying that whatever money you give these girls isn't a set rate. It's not a given that any girl on the Blok is 400k for a short time. It depends on the popularity of the girl and the amount of competition that night. That Hany girl is nothing special, but she's young and firm and has nice breasts. Unfortunately, she's one of the better girls on the Blok these days from what I see. After a few beers, many of the uglier girls turn into gems anyway.Ha Ha how true after a while everyone looks good. How about this for a turnaround in My Bar. Went there last night 2nd and it had a lot of girls, at one point (1:00am) there were 16

Girls and one guy (me). Quite a few different ones at that also. So it just shows it always is a hit and miss situation (at least in MB anyway). Not sure about other places. And now that I have been seen around the quotes I am receiving (without asking or haggling) is now 400k, I do understand that it's not a set rate but if they think you don't know the setup or figure you are new prices are different.

Okay for the new guys in town (not the regulars) be careful in Top Gun when you order drinks (this has happened to me twice before, years ago). You order a drink and all of a sudden there are a whole lot of other unordered drinks next to you. I questioned the bartender and he said that I ordered them (me, myself) , which I didn't. Now I am not a regular in TP so no one knows me, this is also a frequent occurrence in Patpong, Bangkok (BKK, my I'd).

Maybe I was just unlucky and they thought that I was a sucker just bring drinks and I would pay for it. Just be careful in some of these bars if you are a new face in the crowd. Hence the reason I always go to MB, girls or no girls I fancy the dance music and never had been cheated on my bill, although I exclusively use only one waitress.

D Cups
01-04-14, 03:19
If a girl is "below average," why do her?Well she might have extra large tits on a small frame and gives an exceptional blowjob.

Robert Long
01-04-14, 03:38
If a girl is "below average," why do her?Looking back I can truthfully say that I have been f*cked better by "below average" women than by the ones that know they are HOT. I agree with Smoothy in that when you enter an environment with many women, that we normally focus our attention on the best we see. We each have different taste and one that might not please you, I might love.

It all comes down to "What ever turns you on".

Aloha.

RL

Betong
01-04-14, 07:57
Looking back I can truthfully say that I have been f*cked better by "below average" women than by the ones that know they are HOT.Me too. I spend a lot of time looking for good-looking women, and I'm especially picky about bodies. But once in a while I've taken women who wouldn't usually meet my standards, just because something about them promised a good time. And almost always they've delivered, including some of the most memorable shags of my life. I don't make a habit of it, but when it comes along and feels right, why not?

NeverJerkOff
01-04-14, 17:54
Living in Thailand I meet plenty of pretty girls but when I want my big tits and ass fix, I come to Indonesia. Returning to Jakarta for the 2nd time after 7 months, as the rupiah is at a 5 year low. First time I was here, all I did was hit Terminal Classic located in cheaper North Jakarta and mostly frequented by locals. This place never fails me and have no desire to hit up other spots in the city including the iconic Blok B, which seems to be full of older girls and foreigners. Not be my scene. Yes you have to wrap it up at Terminal but this is one country I don't play around. Having also barebacked in Medan and Bali this last year, I am at 40% getting funky shit on my dick the following day in this country, compared to 1% in Thailand.

After touchdown, I go straight to Terminal and no time to connect with the online dates I had lined up. The 3rd floor opens at 2:30 pm with prices of 315, 000 rupiah for 1 girl for 60 minutes and 460,000 rupiah for 2 girls for 90 minutes. Now it is very tempting to go with another girl for slightly more and an extra 30 minutes but you are better off going with one girl for better service. The threesomes are generally lame as fuck and they will rush you. I arrive at 3:30 pm and disappointed with the slim pickings as the girls start packing in 4:00 pm. Turned down 4 girls mamasan brought me and then see one I like as she returns with her customer. Pretty grimy but I choose her right away with no shame and it turns out to be a fun session. I wind up tongue kissing and giving her a facial which can be difficult here.

The next day I'm still in Pasar Baru in a hotel down the street from Terminal. My online dates are becoming more trouble then they are worth and return to Terminal for a threesome. I picked 2 young girls and the service was abysmal. They were playing games with the wrong guy as I was in no mood for that shit. I had a temper tantrum and slammed the wall scaring the one girl out the room. The other girl was cool and laughed it off but succumbed to the pressure of giving shitty service in threesomes which they love to do. So not speaking any Indonesia, I made a big stink of it Pictionary style to 3 of the employees. I showed them my empty condoms, imitated the girls giving me 2 pumps and giggling and was just pissed. They were cool and sent me up 2 more girls. Below average of the bunch but I was happy with the solution. Got to fuck 4 girls for $38 but still left aggravated.

The next 2 nights I relocated to more expensive South Jakarta near Plaza Semanggi. Besides good shopping, this is where many of the girls on the dating sites can access easily, which was helpful in me meeting girls that way. It was becoming too hard to get them to come up to North Jakarta. If you are going to play around with online dating here, I suggest first trying to get a girl to meet you without mentioning money. If she will not meet you, mention money and will be surprised how many will meet you thereafter, as there is a high percentage p4p girls on the sites here.

Had some good dates along with bad but find the mongering and online dating to be very limited in quality here. If you have it in you, I think this is a great country to approach women the traditional way as there are some great looking women walking around and Indonesian girls seem to be very friendly and approachable. Many women who would love to be with a foreigner but with the cultural pressure have not explored it. If you want to turn it into P4P could help or hurt depending on the girl.

Menteng
01-04-14, 17:58
Sometimes in the game of keeping the chain of fucking friends of friends unbroken,"below average looking" girls / women crossed my path. My good buddy JAD, calls it a charity fuck when I dedicate myself to the duty. That way I encountered a squirter and the loudest screamer. It means, they gave their utmost, unlike most of the "more than the average looking" ones.

Aziat
01-04-14, 18:54
Ha Ha how true after a while everyone looks good. How about this for a turnaround in My Bar. Went there last night 2nd and it had a lot of girls, at one point (1:00am) there were 16

Girls and one guy (me). Quite a few different ones at that also. So it just shows it always is a hit and miss situation (at least in MB anyway). Not sure about other places. And now that I have been seen around the quotes I am receiving (without asking or haggling) is now 400k, I do understand that it's not a set rate but if they think you don't know the setup or figure you are new prices are different.

Okay for the new guys in town (not the regulars) be careful in Top Gun when you order drinks (this has happened to me twice before, years ago). You order a drink and all of a sudden there are a whole lot of other unordered drinks next to you. I questioned the bartender and he said that I ordered them (me, myself) , which I didn't. Now I am not a regular in TP so no one knows me, this is also a frequent occurrence in Patpong, Bangkok (BKK, my I'd).

Maybe I was just unlucky and they thought that I was a sucker just bring drinks and I would pay for it. Just be careful in some of these bars if you are a new face in the crowd. Hence the reason I always go to MB, girls or no girls I fancy the dance music and never had been cheated on my bill, although I exclusively use only one waitress.Yes, it is a common scam. I usually ask for a price and pay upfront when ordering. Looks strange a wee bbit, but effective.

Hilo77
01-05-14, 04:11
I am at 40% getting funky shit on my dick the following day in this country, compared to 1% in Thailand.Wow 40 percent, dude you must be hitting on some serious yeast factories!

I've lived here 10 years and gone bareback, well I have no idea but it would be well into triple figures. I can't say I never got a dose because there was one time a few years ago when I had a bit of a dull throbbing down there but as it went away without treatment after 24 hours I don't know what it was but to the best of my knowledge I haven't caught anything more than a bit of a cold off a cewek here.

Now I'm not an idiot, I don't plunge my dick into any passing piece of skan& and I have had check ups and am inoculated against Hep B (a doctor here warned me about that very early in my career, and I recommend everyone get it done) , maybe I'm just lucky or maybe I am headed for a serious fall, but I am truly shocked at your hit rate. Almost half of every bareback you've had in Indonesia has led to the nasties? That really is bad luck on a monumental scale, are you naturally prone to illness in everyday life?

MasBule
01-07-14, 02:00
Big fan of the charity fuck. I kind of see it as my civil duty.

Give me an average looker who performs stunningly, to a stunner who performs averagely anyday.


Sometimes in the game of keeping the chain of fucking friends of friends unbroken,"below average looking" girls / women crossed my path. My good buddy JAD, calls it a charity fuck when I dedicate myself to the duty. That way I encountered a squirter and the loudest screamer. It means, they gave their utmost, unlike most of the "more than the average looking" ones.

MasBule
01-07-14, 02:16
I so agree.

Even when I've had work vendors pay. With a free tab at Alexis or Malio, and any girls I can choose, I always go for the indo girls. Their service is just so much better, and Indo's seem to genuinely enjoy a good fuck.

Worse on my list without doubt is the Chinese for service.


Which only asserts my question: why go to Indonesia to score an expensive Russian, Uzbek, Chinese or whatever girl when Indonesian girls are so pretty and so readily available?

Regards,

Ko

Stykler
01-07-14, 06:49
Give me an average looker who performs stunningly, to a stunner who performs averagely anyday.Never a truer word written!

Jonster
01-08-14, 16:19
Gents,

I'm a long time lurker here and shamefully have only ever posted one report (Shanghai) but hope to start making amends. I was in Jakarta a few weeks ago for a couple of nights and decided to take the easy way by going to TG based on other posts. Sorry if this is boring for Jakarta old hands!

First night was a Tuesday but it was still packed when I turned up after 11pm. Late flight. I hate the arm pulling shit so I went to the back of the bar by the pool table to get a beer and a smoke and chatted to the bar staff for a bit, but after a couple of looseners I headed to the main bar. Couple of expat guys there and a spare seat so I plonked myself on it, chatted, and surveyed the scene. Lots of girls, maybe 10% of them very cute. I'm a bit picky.

Then a smoking hot girl walks up and asks me for a light. Pure sex in her eyes, but no "what's your name","where are you from", just "got to light, thanks" and a big smile. That got me twitching. 20 mins later she sidles up, tells me her name and asks me if I want to dance. I say I'm a terrible dancer and need far more to drink before venturing onto the floor. Which leads to sharing a bottle of Uncle Jack and over an hour of conversation. I hear about her family and her kids, how she's in her late 30s (I'd have put her 10 years younger. And remember, I'm picky!) and I'm thinking this is not the usual WG modus operandi.

Long story short we end up kissing at the bar and she gets me dancing. As the bar is closing I made the move and asked her back to my hotel and she said yes. No mention of money.

Back there we had awesome GFE sex, I mean really awesome. Amazingly more oral than FS as we both seemed to know exactly what to do. Much mutual pleasure!

We woke at 11am and had more sex then breakfast after which she said it was time for her to go and could I give her the taxi fare, at which point, having RTFF, I knew (if I didn't before) that this was the soft touch WG style. I gave her 1m rupiah and she seemed more than happy. So was I. 80 bucks for an all night GFE.

Next night I was there early. I didn't care if I scored as I was kinda jetlagged. I just wanted to hang out and play pool, which I did for a while and was about to leave when a tiny, beautiful thing walked in and came straight up. Usual "what's your name" crap but she was so cute I couldn't say no. I told her I was just leaving and she asked if she could come with me. I said sure and she came straight back with 2m rupiah. Um, no thanks. So I said come back to my hotel for 1 hour and I'll give you 500k, which she agreed to straight away.

Back in the room she showered and slid into bed. Oh God what a beautiful little body and cute face. And she was a v sweet girl. Said she was from Java and 23 yo. The sex was ok and she got quite wet after a some DATY, but she wasn't the GFE from last night. But oh boy what a sight on her knees taking it doggy. She left soon after, pleasant enough and I gave her a tip.

So, like I said, sorry if this is all a bit old hat for some but I thought it was worth posting as such a positive experience. I guess it's why guys head to TG.

Cheers and happy mongering.

Member #4410
01-09-14, 10:20
Sounds like you must've struck Raney out of TG. Sit her there cowgirl and she will ride all night or as long as you can take it, orgasming countless times, the archetypical 'happy hooker'. A real bonus is she's always fun and never greedy. Never met anyone like her in 30 years! As she leaves, always asking with a smile 'you sure you don't want one more. ? ' Our kind of gal.I had the pleasure of meeting Rani (she says that is how you spell her name). Incredible.

I love eating bald pussy and she just Loves Being eaten. Multi-orgasmic and still very tight despite having a child, so she absolutely wanted to follow up with a good shag.

Unfortunately she could not stay the night because she had to take care of her child.

She promised to return soon for a couple of repeats.

Regards,

Ko

Member #4410
01-09-14, 10:41
I could not resist and went to D's a few times (yes, weak knees, etc.).

Started chatting up one of the barmaids (Riry, she's the lively one) and had a pleasant time. She even hinted that she might come to my room to add to her salary (850, 000 a month, often paid late). I was soon picked up by one of the young dancers and taken to the VIP room. Had a pleasant BBBJ and shag and paid 6000, 000.

Yesterday evening suddenly the MILF with an Attitude (you know who I mean) was grinding her butt in my lap. When I asked her if her tits were real she put my hands in her bra and let me inspect them. Yup, real. Then she asked me "do you want to fuck me?" Personally I had never seen her go into the VIP room and she had gotten me horny, so I agreed (did not talk about money, yes stupid).

In the VIP room she quickly got naked, unbuttoned my pants and shirt and started DFK and licking my nipples. I did some inspecting of her pussy which went wet pretty quickly. Then she started an excellent BBBJ with lots of tongue, during which she kept looking me in the eye. After a while I put her on a barstool and slowly slid into her. Took a bit of effort because she is pretty tight. Eventually I was in completely and had a good shag before coming inside her. Excellent service. The shocker came when she asked for 900, 000. She had given excellent service and had made me come very nicely so I didn't even haggle.

Later in the bar she came back to snuggle up to me and I asked her name. She said it is Mellisa.

Regards,

Ko

Solenoid
01-10-14, 19:31
A while back, I had the pleasure of being in Jakarta for the weekend and stayed at the Marriott Exec Apartments. IMHO a great place to spend a weekend and very impressive when you bring the girls back to the place.

On a Friday evening went to BATS at the Shangri La and paid the usual entrance fee and was amazed already at the great meat standing in line.

Anyway, after enjoying a couple of drinks made the rounds and spotted a beautiful Kim Kardashian look a like (body style) and but more Indian looking in the facial features than local Indonesia. In any case I would classify as a 7/10 or 8/10. Depends on your scale.

We hooked up at the bar and she was amazingly friendly and we have some drinks and got drunk as we dance the night away. BEST GFE ever.

Made it back to the Exec. aparment at the Marriott and starting to do incredible GFE sex with BBBJ and CIM. What was amazing that she was a Squirter! At first I was not sure how to react when we were doing 69, but wow did it turn me on. She squirted intensely onto the bed and I swear onto the walls of the room. At one point she was screaming so loud that I had a concern a neighbor would call someone, but it seems the walls were very well insulated. It was great to know her moans and screaming were not fabricated due to her intense squirting.

She spent the night as is customary in Indonesia and I woke up to a BBBJ with CIM.

Needless to say, one of my best mongering experiences ever and thus I chose this to be my first real report that I have posted after years of being and avid ISG reader.

I had not agreed to a price before hand so when it was time for payment I gave her 500K IDR. She was not that happy, but made a joke " You fuck like a young guy and pay like a young guy".

The next evening we agreed to go to a nightclub together (Dragon fly?) but she canceled as she was extremely hungover from our previous adventurous night. The SMS she sent was " Thanks for the great sex last night". Another feather in my cap.

In my future trips to Jakarta I tried to hookup with her, but she was never in Jakarta as she lived outside in another village. Maybe I should have paid more and should would have been willing to meet up again, but I think it is best in memory as it was that evening, squirting and all.

Member #4410
01-10-14, 21:01
I could not resist and went to D's a few times (yes, weak knees, etc.).

<SNIP

Later in the bar she came back to snuggle up to me and I asked her name. She said it is Mellisa.

Regards,

KoLast evening I went to D's just for a few drinks and was immediately tackled by Mellisa (see previous post) who did a good job of getting me horny in between her dancing stints. She invited me to the VIP room again but I politely declined which was accepted in good humour and did not result in less butt-grinding. She re-introduced me to her colleague Titi who I already had a few times in the VIP room and who is just as good at butt-grinding and offering various body parts for physical inspection.

Ended up inviting Mellisa to my room for this afternoon and Titi for Monday afternoon. We'll see how this turns out. I made a few pictures of the dancing crew but I need to resize them before posting and it's 3 o'clock now. Later.

Regards,

Ko

Eugene22
01-10-14, 23:45
Hello there!

Can you tell me what's the rates in CJ at that moment, to have a fun with a girl for all night.

Going to stop in Hotel Mulia for a week.

Menteng
01-11-14, 09:03
I had not agreed to a price before hand so when it was time for payment I gave her 500K IDR. She was not that happy, but made a joke " You fuck like a young guy and pay like a young guy".

The next evening we agreed to go to a nightclub together (Dragon fly?) but she canceled as she was extremely hungover from our previous adventurous night.

Maybe I should have paid more and she would have been willing to meet up again.Can't blame her!

Solenoid
01-11-14, 10:44
Forgot to mention my experience at TG at the Block M from my previous post. While this place is a very run down bar, it seem everyone here has a great fun even the shady looking hookers who hide in the shadows. Overall during my time in Jakarta, I took home several times two girls at once and enjoyed great service each time paying around 700K for the night with 2 girls. The main difference I should say between TG and BATS is the quality of the girls. In TG I would rate them more 3/10 to maybe 6/10, where at BATS the average is around 6/10 to 7/10 with the potential on finding a stunner and having a "magical" night as I reported in my earlier report. I terms of service surely it depends on the girl but always have had great GFE with alot of BBBJ and CIM.

Also getting in and out of Block M is not that easy even for a seasoned taxi driver who sometimes seems to take extra time to find the place. I have not been there in a while as my last trip to Jakarta is some time ago, but if you are on a budget for the night then it is certainly worth the time for some fun.

Hilo77
01-12-14, 03:43
So Ken paid almost double the going rate for his super-sexy girl and when he comes back the next night she's on to him like glue, as are her friends who no doubt have got the word about Ken's generous nature. He will find that to be the case from now on until he has to face the pouting petulance when he politely but firmly informs her that there are actually other girls in the bar whose wares he would like to sample. Ken's an old hand and I'm sure this will cause him little inconvenience.

Solenoid on the other hand paid almost half the going rate for his super-sexy girl and by a remarkable coincidence discovered that she was no longer available when he tried to contact her again. He's not bothered, it was a memorable experience and there's plenty of other fish in the sea.

Lesson to be learned? None actually, I'm a firm believer in the free market and make no judgement on how my fellow man chooses to spend his hard-earned money.

I do note in passing however that this game runs a lot more smoothly when you just pay the going rate.

Solenoid
01-12-14, 12:24
I do note in passing however that this game runs a lot more smoothly when you just pay the going rate.Great post! I have been on both sides of the fence as you mention, and I agree fully with your last statement.

Kadoma
01-13-14, 13:52
Go to the 2nd floor of Mal Ambassador (on Jalan Prof. Dr. Satrio, in the Kuningan section of Jakarta, near the Marriott) and walk to the bridge where it connects to the adjacent mall known as ITC Kuningan. On your right hand side is a booth / stall that sells what you're looking for. You shouldn't have any problems finding the booth / stall, as one of the attractive young sales girls will probably approach you as you walk by and try to sell you Viagra.

Good luck! And Happy Holidays to all.Just half an hour ago I went to the booth. It's actually on the ITC Kuningan side of Jembatan 1, 2nd floor as you said. Mainly sells junky magic stuff that kids would like, masks, dopey toys, tricks etc.

Stood there wondering for all of 10 seconds when one of the girls shone a laser pen at me and asked if I wanted to buy it. I said 'no, tapi ada apa lagi? ' quick as a flash she said 'Oh. Kamu mau sex toy? ' Obviously done it all before.

I was then invited to sit in very close proximity to this rather sexy lady as she presented a variety of products, only one of which was really worth buying. No double dongs available, but truckloads of Viagra and Cialis on internal display.

It certainly looks dauntingly efficient, with enough moving parts to entertain a kid for hours, and it does things that neither your nor my appendages could ever achieve, it would be painful to even contemplate, let alone attempt. Unfortunately, she didn't demonstrate it in the way that I would've preferred but you can't have everything.

Rp 450,000 lighter, I proudly returned to my hotel with its personal X-ray entry, eliciting quite a knowing smirk from the lady on duty. Shades of trying to buy condoms at age 16.

Many thanks for the tip, she will be trying out her birthday present tomorrow night.

Member #4410
01-14-14, 12:06
<SNIP> He will find that to be the case from now on until he has to face the pouting petulance when he politely but firmly informs her that there are actually other girls in the bar whose wares he would like to sample. <SNIP>The girls are a lot more professional than Hilo gives them credit for. There is remarkably little jealousy among them and when you elect not to go to the VIP rooom this is accepted in good spirit. Yesterday I took a few drinks expecting to chat a little with Riri the bargirl (who happened to have her day off). Mellisa did some butt-grinding in between her dancing stints and of course invited me to the VIP room. When I said to her "Not tonight dear, I have a headache" she almost choked on her Coke. Her English is good enough to understand a remark like that. Whe had a good laugh and a relaxed rest of the evening. D's can also be used just as a bar.

Regards,

Ko

Mighty Spearsman
01-15-14, 16:10
Just half an hour ago I went to the booth. It's actually on the ITC Kuningan side of Jembatan 1, 2nd floor as you said. Mainly sells junky magic stuff that kids would like, masks, dopey toys, tricks etc.

Stood there wondering for all of 10 seconds when one of the girls shone a laser pen at me and asked if I wanted to buy it. I said 'no, tapi ada apa lagi? ' quick as a flash she said 'Oh. Kamu mau sex toy? ' Obviously done it all before.

I was then invited to sit in very close proximity to this rather sexy lady as she presented a variety of products, only one of which was really worth buying. No double dongs available, but truckloads of Viagra and Cialis on internal display.

It certainly looks dauntingly efficient, with enough moving parts to entertain a kid for hours, and it does things that neither your nor my appendages could ever achieve, it would be painful to even contemplate, let alone attempt. Unfortunately, she didn't demonstrate it in the way that I would've preferred but you can't have everything.

Rp 450, 000 lighter, I proudly returned to my hotel with its personal X-ray entry, eliciting quite a knowing smirk from the lady on duty. Shades of trying to buy condoms at age 16.

Many thanks for the tip, she will be trying out her birthday present tomorrow night.You're welcome! I look forward to reading about the results of her "try-out".

Member #4410
01-16-14, 14:51
The girls are a lot more professional than Hilo gives them credit for. There is remarkably little jealousy among them and when you elect not to go to the VIP rooom this is accepted in good spirit. Yesterday I took a few drinks expecting to chat a little with Riri the bargirl (who happened to have her day off). Mellisa did some butt-grinding in between her dancing stints and of course invited me to the VIP room. When I said to her "Not tonight dear, I have a headache" she almost choked on her Coke. Her English is good enough to understand a remark like that. Whe had a good laugh and a relaxed rest of the evening. D's can also be used just as a bar.

Regards,

KoFor those unfamiliar with D's Place here are few pictures of a number of the dancers. Both the girl on the right in picture 823 and the girl on the right in picture 877 are firmly on my to-do-list the next time I'm in Jakarta. I had Mellisa and Ayu in the VIP-room (Ayu more than once). Melisa and Titi were pleasant company in my hotelroom. Maybe this will bust this curious myth about the dancers not being up for action anywhere.

Regards,

Ko

Member #4410
01-16-14, 15:19
A couple of posts ago the remarkable Indonesian type of massage was mentioned that results in red marks across the back of the subject. While looking for some electronics in Plaza Glodok (the bridge-like structure over the road where Jl. Hayam Wuruk transforms into Jl. Pintu Besar Selatan) I saw this type of massage being performed. It is indeed performed using a sort of coin and the subject is not screaming in agony. On the original picture, pre-resizing, you can see that the masseur is not drawing blood, but only just. I squirmed while watching and then asked permission for a picture.

Regards,

Ko

UsPete
01-16-14, 16:42
A couple of posts ago the remarkable Indonesian type of massage was mentioned that results in red marks across the back of the subject. While looking for some electronics in Plaza Glodok (the bridge-like structure over the road where Jl. Hayam Wuruk transforms into Jl. Pintu Besar Selatan) I saw this type of massage being performed. It is indeed performed using a sort of coin and the subject is not screaming in agony. On the original picture, pre-resizing, you can see that the masseur is not drawing blood, but only just. I squirmed while watching and then asked permission for a picture.

Regards,

KoIt's called Kerokan. I requested it a few weeks ago as I had a bad flu virus. It's not that painful and really gets the blood circulation going ("lifts the wind"). It's impossible to do without oil or balm.

More effective than a hot cup of tea.

In Vietnam it's called Gua-Sha so is likely to be of Chinese origin.

Hilo77
01-17-14, 03:49
The girls are a lot more professional than Hilo gives them credit for.Oh fear not, I am well aware of just how professional the VIP girls are, let me give an example to illustrate. The night before last I was in D's and picked up one of the dancers, one of the younger, prettier, ones. I never fancied Melissa she's a bit long in the tooth and looks too much like my ex-wife (and apparently knows how to gouge cash like her too). I've had this particular one before and always enjoyed her performance, she was giving me the usual BJ and then suggested "pom-pom", sure why not I replied. She asked how much, I said "biasa", and she suggested 900, 000. Wow, that was a big price hike from before, and then I thought hang on. 900, 000 that rings a bell. I politely replied that I wasn't Melissa's rich boyfriend and I would prefer to pay the going rate if she didn't mind, she laughed and agreed.

Congratulations Ken, you're now officially a legend in the VIP room of D's. Enjoy your status because you might not be aware but the place is closing down in a few months' time to be replaced with a disco apparently. You and I will just have to go to BATS or CJ's to enjoy the company of older women with an over-inflated idea of their value from now on.

Dkooau
01-17-14, 08:07
I'll be arriving at Jakarta around midday to afternoon. What's the best place to pickup good quality girls. If you have any contacts, even for brothels please PM me.

Thanks in advance

Dkooau
01-17-14, 08:54
Is B. A. T. S. Is any good. What's the best time to get there. Picking up, is it something like Brix at Grand Hyatt in Singapore.

Any information is great. It's very hard to find good info about this place.

Kadoma
01-17-14, 10:00
You're welcome! I look forward to reading about the results of her "try-out".Mighty Spearsman,

A last minute cancellation left me with a toy but no playground. Staying at Le Meridien it seemed only reasonable to pop downstairs and find a volunteer for a test run. Teamed up with Liah, who informed me she'd seen me many times over the years and why had I always ignored her? I rarely venture into Tiga Puluh and even more rarely ever savour the goods on offer (we all know just how tired that poor bar has become) but she obviously has a better memory for faces than I do.

I would never call Liah beautiful but not the opposite either, and to my delight a most fetching body was hidden under rather unsexy clothes. A strange night, her in mourning for her Finnish 'boyfriend', a hard core girl should know better than to fall in love with a customer of 6 weeks. Tears alternated with extreme horniness several times over the course of the test as we tried to put his memory to rest. Apparently he'd been in Tiga Puluh that night and totally ignored her. You've got to love the drama!

She claimed she'd never used a vibrator before and was scared of it's size. More than twice as thick as the average fella and definitely could not be described as small. Some persuasion saw the vibrating tip on the lips and minimalist clit and suddenly she was awash and all in favour. Absolutely no trouble with the size and soon in right to the hilt. When I hit the rotate button and it started waving around in all directions inside her, she went right off. Another happy convert! Took a couple of minutes for the pussy to dilate back to normal penis dimensions, after which she was at it hammer and tongs with the real thing, which she coyly described as 'better', possibly just a business decision designed to make myself feel adequate and appreciated. But the way she kept eyeing the vibrator for the rest of the night. Not to mention a request that I donate it to her and buy a second one for the regular girlfriend.

A good night was definitely had by all.

Needless to say, the next evening the girlfriend was just as happy but I'm far too shy to recount the details.

Well. You did say you want to read about the results!

Member #4410
01-17-14, 14:11
Oh fear not, I am well aware of just how professional the VIP girls are, let me give an example to illustrate. The night before last I was in D's and picked up one of the dancers, one of the younger, prettier, ones. I never fancied Melissa she's a bit long in the tooth and looks too much like my ex-wife (and apparently knows how to gouge cash like her too). I've had this particular one before and always enjoyed her performance, she was giving me the usual BJ and then suggested "pom-pom", sure why not I replied. She asked how much, I said "biasa", and she suggested 900, 000. Wow, that was a big price hike from before, and then I thought hang on. 900, 000 that rings a bell. I politely replied that I wasn't Melissa's rich boyfriend and I would prefer to pay the going rate if she didn't mind, she laughed and agreed.

Congratulations Ken, you're now officially a legend in the VIP room of D's. Enjoy your status because you might not be aware but the place is closing down in a few months' time to be replaced with a disco apparently. You and I will just have to go to BATS or CJ's to enjoy the company of older women with an over-inflated idea of their value from now on.I suppose you mean me, although I don't like being called Ken. I don't go around calling you Henry, do I?

Have fun in BATS.

Member #4410
01-17-14, 14:38
Rates in Maribaya have gone up to IDR 600,000 per girl per hour. At first glance this is outrageous and for locals this may indeed be the case.

What can be taken into account for foreigners, however, is the exchange rate. In June the rate was near 12,500 per Euro. In December the IDR had slumped to nearly 17,000 per Euro, which hugely softens the blow. IDR 500,000 at 12,500 works out at EUR 40; IDR 600,000 at 17,000 works out at approx. EUR 35. For a guy from Europe not much pain. Don't know how it works out in the case of the USD.

Regards,

Ko

TimTimGuy
01-18-14, 01:13
Rates in Maribaya have gone up to IDR 600, 000 per girl per hour. At first glance this is outrageous and for locals this may indeed be the case.

What can be taken into account for foreigners, however, is the exchange rate. In June the rate was near 12, 500 per Euro. In December the IDR had slumped to nearly 17, 000 per Euro, which hugely softens the blow. IDR 500, 000 at 12, 500 works out at EUR 40; IDR 600, 000 at 17, 000 works out at approx. EUR 35. For a guy from Europe not much pain. Don't know how it works out in the case of the USD.

Regards,

KoIf you go back about 4 pages, I posted on exchange rates:The rapid depreciation in the Indonesian rupiah (relative, for example, to the US dollar) is a real factor (positive) for tourists to keep in mind.

" First, for the record, I agree that 800k IDR is too much to pay, based on the existing market. Second, again for the record, what you pay or tip is none of my business, and what I pay or tip is none of your business.

Having said all that, the 800k IDR that the girls may be looking to get is about US$65 currently, but was US$88 and change in December 2011. A more realistic 'ask' of 500k IDR is worth about US$41 today, as opposed to US$55 two years ago. *snip* The hundred dollar bill brings about 1. 2 million at the money exchange, not 880k as in the recent past."

I also added some blather about Jakarta vs Bangkok. For my money Maribaya is like Tulip in Bangkok. Good value for the money for a PSE! Best for 2014, TTG

Hilo77
01-18-14, 03:43
I suppose you mean me, although I don't like being called Ken. I don't go around calling you Henry, do I?

Have fun in BATS.My apologies, I have no idea how I made such an error in your name when it was written in black and white in front of me, no offence intended. By the way how did you guess my name was Henry? You are very astute.

Bajuaku
01-21-14, 05:08
Hello all,

I will be going to Jakarta on 22nd and will be back on 27th Jan. I heard that there is a massive flood going on overthere. I seek your opinion whether or not should I cancel my trip. The trip has been planned for quite sometime but I do not want to be stuck in the flood.

I will be based in either All Season Gajah Mada, Mercure Harmoni or Mercure Kota. Haven't decide but I guess these hotels are close proximity to classics and travel. Does the flood affects the area?

I have RTFF and understood the going rate was 310k for ST. Does this rate still prevail? I wonder if I can get an all-nighter from these places? If so, what would be the rate that I should pay (800k?). I don't want to spoil the market.

As for the club scene, I also understood that Jalan Falatehan is quite far from my base and it is not recommended during this rainy and floody season. Please advise if otherwise. I don't mind at all to take a taxi for 30-40 mins ride. If not, I will venture out to Millie's. I don't think I have the guts to venture into Stadium after reading all the reports.

Promise will write a detailed report once the trip is completed.

Thanks

MasBule
01-22-14, 02:56
Hi,

You will be fine int hose areas. Although the trip from the airport will take longer because the bottom toll road out of the airport is closed. Forcing traffic into 2 not 4 lanes.

Kota fine at present, no problem where you are staying.

ST 400-500k, LT 800-1000k depends on your bargaining and balls. You won't get a girl from classic or travel, most likely to stay overnight. For that you will need FL's from the hotel bars, or BlokM, or try your hand in Nth Jakarta with locals bars (but more language problems and a bit more of a FL mongering challenge).

The rate in Classic is 330k from memory for 1hr. But be sure you choose the 2nd floor, as the basement (bunker) and 5th floor are higher prices, but better girls. 2nd floor is an Indo meat market designed for high turnover locals fucking cheaply, whereas the others floors are a bit more classy (hehehe classy yeh right I hear you say).

Yes Falatehan is BlokM, it is far, but don't worry about flooding, from where you stay it is one straight road almost, which is flood free this year. Just depending on the time of day could take an hour or more.

Milles good, Stadium also good. Just the problem with both of them is that the music, the venue is designed for the drug user. If your not ON, their both pretty average places IMHO and hard to have a good time in. But always good to have a look. If your don't partake in that scene, then I recommend stadium for the experience. Go 3rd floor, sit back and have a beer and watch the gogo dancers. Very safe. If you goto 4th floor. Thats the disco where the drug taking and dance music is played. Definitely worth spending 30mins there, just to experience it. The music system and light show really are very very good. But go after 1am for it to be busy. BUT unless your a pussy, I highly recommend going there to experience it, I have never felt unsafe and have been there in all states of intoxication. Just be smart.

Just remember BlokM, Stadium, Classsic are 3 very different types of venues. BlokM is lower level FL's (most mothers, but good fun and sexually experienced) with lots of expats. All having a good time. Classic is a local house full of Indo men with hokers who are young and usually starfish. Stadium / Milles are trance type nightlcubs, full of drugs and girls either wanting you to buy them drugs or hookers.

If you like Fl's and don't mind spending high drink prices, the hotel bar scene is ok. BATS, CJ's, Tiga Pulu etc.

Let us know if you want info on a specific scene. Advise your age, tastes etc then we can narrow it better.


Hello all,

I will be going to Jakarta on 22nd and will be back on 27th Jan. I heard that there is a massive flood going on overthere. I seek your opinion whether or not should I cancel my trip. The trip has been planned for quite sometime but I do not want to be stuck in the flood.

I will be based in either All Season Gajah Mada, Mercure Harmoni or Mercure Kota. Haven't decide but I guess these hotels are close proximity to classics and travel. Does the flood affects the area?

I have RTFF and understood the going rate was 310k for ST. Does this rate still prevail? I wonder if I can get an all-nighter from these places? If so, what would be the rate that I should pay (800k?). I don't want to spoil the market.

As for the club scene, I also understood that Jalan Falatehan is quite far from my base and it is not recommended during this rainy and floody season. Please advise if otherwise. I don't mind at all to take a taxi for 30-40 mins ride. If not, I will venture out to Millie's. I don't think I have the guts to venture into Stadium after reading all the reports.

Promise will write a detailed report once the trip is completed.

Thanks

Mighty Spearsman
01-22-14, 02:58
Hello all,

I will be going to Jakarta on 22nd and will be back on 27th Jan. I heard that there is a massive flood going on overthere. I seek your opinion whether or not should I cancel my trip. The trip has been planned for quite sometime but I do not want to be stuck in the flood.

I will be based in either All Season Gajah Mada, Mercure Harmoni or Mercure Kota. Haven't decide but I guess these hotels are close proximity to classics and travel. Does the flood affects the area?

I have RTFF and understood the going rate was 310k for ST. Does this rate still prevail? I wonder if I can get an all-nighter from these places? If so, what would be the rate that I should pay (800k?). I don't want to spoil the market.

As for the club scene, I also understood that Jalan Falatehan is quite far from my base and it is not recommended during this rainy and floody season. Please advise if otherwise. I don't mind at all to take a taxi for 30-40 mins ride. If not, I will venture out to Millie's. I don't think I have the guts to venture into Stadium after reading all the reports.

Promise will write a detailed report once the trip is completed.

ThanksIt's difficult to tell you to cancel or not, as the situation changes daily. While some parts of Jakarta are under massive amounts of water, such as Kelapa Gading and Pluit, other parts of Jakarta are in pretty good shape. A couple of the Transjakarta bus lines, including Line #3, are closed, but other lines, including the important north-south Line #1 are still open (although there are some delays).

Assuming it's too late to cancel, I think you'll be ok when you get here. The girls have not left town, in fact you might find more choices as many people won't bother to venture out.

I look forward to reading your trip report!

Hilo77
01-22-14, 03:11
The floods, while bad in some locations mostly residential areas on the peripheries, are by no means as bad they were in previous years when you could take a boat trip down Jalan Thamrin in the city centre. However as Mighty Spearsman says the situation could change from day to day but even in the worst of flooding in the past I found I was merely inconvenienced at worst for maybe a day or two. Anyone staying in a decent hotel (which are filling up with people whose homes have been effected so you might want to get booking) will suffer no great hardships.

If anything at the moment traffic is flowing even better than usual as people stay at home, motorcyclists don't venture out and the trucks are held up at factories and ports. This certainly reduces the number of punters about but as the girls tend to live in low-income housing in the less developed parts of town many of them are also inundated and unable to get out (but think of how desperate for cash they're going to be to fix everything when they are back in business. What? I'm not heartless, I'm an economist by training and that's how I see the world).

If you're already booked I certainly wouldn't let a few inches of excess rainwater put me off.

Member #4263
01-22-14, 14:13
Hello Jakarta veterans,

May I ask if any of you has a Jakarta travel guide for newbies like me?

I'm planning 10 days in BKK in May. It'll be first sex trip, other than Amsterdam (I'm W. European).

I know that Indonesia and The Phillippines are better suited for experienced mongers so I opted for Thailand.

Liggi1
01-22-14, 19:10
I just came back from Stadium. I had a very good "sleep" there. Before I looked Block M, bur there was it very quiet. I stay Mercure Kota until 25. January. Yes we have rain in the night but no big problem.

AnywhereInAsia
01-23-14, 09:50
I just came back from Stadium. I had a very good "sleep" there. Before I looked Block M, bur there was it very quiet. I stay Mercure Kota until 25. January. Yes we have rain in the night but no big problem.What did you partake in at stadium? I'll be there in a few weeks. Sounds interesting with the different levels, can one take a dancer or a FL from the disco to the ST room floor for a quickie, or is this exclusive for the girls on that floor?

Traveler1234
01-23-14, 13:52
Hello Jakarta veterans,

May I ask if any of you has a Jakarta travel guide for newbies like me?Highly recommended the services of Jakarta After Dark [JAD]. Check the classified section for his contacts, or send him a pm.

Mighty Spearsman
01-23-14, 16:02
Highly recommended the services of Jakarta After Dark [JAD]. Check the classified section for his contacts, or send him a pm.Yes, I know JAD, so I'm biased, but I agree with Traveler1234. The best bet for any newbie (especially someone who's only going to be here for a few days) is to contact Jakarta After Dark.

The easiest way is to go to the Classified section and go directly to the last page, where you'll find one of his ads.

If you want further assurance, there are several posts here on ISG by other mongers who have used JAD's services and are satisfied customers.

I look forward to reading your trip reports!

Traveler1234
01-23-14, 16:49
Yes, I know JAD, so I'm biased, but I agree with Traveler1234.We got to coordinate our travel so that next visit, the three of us finally get together. ;)

Mighty Spearsman
01-24-14, 05:05
We got to coordinate our travel so that next visit, the three of us finally get together. ;)I agree!

I fondly recall having lunch back in 2005 with JAD, Bulai69, Menteng, KL Guy and some other esteemed Senior Members at a cafe at Sarinah Plaza. JAD had brought two young lovelies, one of whom was enjoyed by Menteng, as shown in the photo below (taken by Menteng). It's too bad that you can't see her pretty face, although you can certainly see her shapely, larger-then-average (by Indonesian standards) breasts.

I later ran into this young lady a couple of times in 2006, not sure what she's doing know.

Master Diver II
01-24-14, 07:09
Yes, I know JAD, so I'm biased, but I agree with Traveler1234. The best bet for any newbie (especially someone who's only going to be here for a few days) is to contact Jakarta After Dark.I know JAD too and fully concur. I got to know him after doing a tour with him quite a few years back. It was educational and, as with clearly quite a few of us, we're still friends now.

MD II

Pita123
01-24-14, 15:27
I know JAD too and fully concur. I got to know him after doing a tour with him quite a few years back. It was educational and, as with clearly quite a few of us, we're still friends now.

MD III used him on my first trip. He is great! Don't get down here enough to see him again, but great guy and money well spent.

I'm here now and will use the knowledge I got from him to have a great time! Happy to meet up with other punters this weekend.

Amadeuss
01-25-14, 01:33
ST 400-500k, LT 800-1000k depends on your bargaining and balls. You won't get a girl from classic or travel, most likely to stay overnight. For that you will need FL's from the hotel bars, or BlokM, or try your hand in Nth Jakarta with locals bars (but more language problems and a bit more of a FL mongering challenge).

Just remember BlokM, Stadium, Classsic are 3 very different types of venues. BlokM is lower level FL's (most mothers, but good fun and sexually experienced) with lots of expats. All having a good time. Classic is a local house full of Indo men with hokers who are young and usually starfish. Stadium / Milles are trance type nightlcubs, full of drugs and girls either wanting you to buy them drugs or hookers.

If you like Fl's and don't mind spending high drink prices, the hotel bar scene is ok. BATS, CJ's, Tiga Pulu etc.A very good compilation of the present scene! Fully agree.

You are a resident of Jakarta?

MasBule
01-25-14, 03:07
Hi Botaki6,

Yes, I am a resident of Jakarta at present.

This forum really only scratches the surface, there is so much going on in the city, if you have enough time to discover it.

Have fun guys.


A very good compilation of the present scene! Fully agree.

You are a resident of Jakarta?

Dkooau
01-25-14, 09:17
What is the going rate at BATS for overnight?

Is it somewhere 800k. 1000k or over?

Smoothy
01-25-14, 11:06
What is the going rate at BATS for overnight?

Is it somewhere 800k. 1000k or over?I don't know the going rate, but the girl I chatted up last time I was there wanted 2 million. She was going to settle for 1. 5 earlier in the night, but it seems some other guy was offering more later in the night. I let her leave me and go with him.

Dkooau
01-25-14, 20:31
So from all this what I can gather is there are better looking and younger girls in BATS. Please correct me if I'm wrong. .


I don't know the going rate, but the girl I chatted up last time I was there wanted 2 million. She was going to settle for 1. 5 earlier in the night, but it seems some other guy was offering more later in the night. I let her leave me and go with him.

Smoothy
01-25-14, 22:55
Not really. But that particular girl was pretty damn hot.

MasBule
01-26-14, 01:32
1m overnight is just fine, best read the posts below and don't even discuss numbers, just get her home and pay her that in the morning. She won't argue with 1m.


What is the going rate at BATS for overnight?

Is it somewhere 800k. 1000k or over?

Smoothy
01-26-14, 05:19
1m overnight is just fine, best read the posts below and don't even discuss numbers, just get her home and pay her that in the morning. She won't argue with 1m.I don't know. That girl I was talking with tried negotiating before we left. That's why I ended up not taking her.

Amadeuss
01-26-14, 09:24
This forum really only scratches the surface, there is so much going on in the city, if you have enough time to discover it.True.

But its a big difference if you go there for a short while on biz or vacation (what most of us here on ISG do). Or if you stay there in your own appartment and car and also speak some of the local language. Opens many more doors and opportunities to the thousands of local ladies eager to meet foreigners for a "longer" relationship (whatever that means)

Irish Mongrel
01-26-14, 14:43
I don't know. That girl I was talking with tried negotiating before we left. That's why I ended up not taking her.They will always try to negotiate. I probably spent see. 8 weeks a year in the Hotel Mulia over a 4 year period and never gave more than 1M. There's plenty of girls in there that will go for that, some that think they are way above that, some will go for less at the end of the night, but I just stuck to the 1M. I made friends with a newbie who knew nothing of this site and he had been paying 3M to one girl, now wonder she was all over him every night he came to town. His jaw dropped when I told him the going rate. Led to a really funny situation where the girl kept asking me where he was on all the future trips I made, but never asked me if I was interested. Guess she knew my rates and she had hers. Plenty of fish in the ocean, throw it back if it's overpriced and chat up the next one.

FunTimez222
01-27-14, 06:17
Visited all three. Concur with most of recent posts. TG is more casual / friendly girls. No pressure. No tactics. Not the best lookers, but likely not commercial. I did not partake at TGs, as the couple of girls I spotted were taken, and it was a slow night. CJs does have a mix of "veterans" and FLs. So does Bats, but latter probably has more "veterans". One girl told me only crazy types go to CJs. She was at Bats, so I don't know what that means. I had an ok take out at CJs and a decent one at Bats. Luck of draw. Never offer more than 1 mil guys. Unless you are compelled by circumstances. I am amazed at promiscuity of gals in Indo. I did not expect this scene in this country.

Bajuaku
01-28-14, 09:18
Day 1:

Went to classic at around 4pm all by myself. Settled down at one of the tables and had a look around. There were not many people there and the supply was quite abundant I'd say.

Even though supply was higher than demand, I think this rule did not apply in classics as it is not really a free market (Note to Hilo77). Prices are fixed.

The were about 20 customers there, only 2-3 bule and 2-3 Japs and Koreans. Made a rookie mistake since this was my first time in classics. Had an eye with a girl.

Which was very attractive and immediately decided that I wanted to do her. Paid IDR315k and off we went to the room. This was true mistake as the girl was a complete starfish!

No kissing and no licking on the nipples. Did a few positions and settled within 50 mins. No tips for this girl as I'd rate her service as 2/10.

I wanted to go out by the time we were done. But upon going out, I was quite impressed with the new supply. It seems many more chicks were coming in. Decided to hang around.

And ordered a drink. Was seated at the table while enjoying the panoramic view. I was approached by a few mamasans. This time I swore that I would not make the same mistake

Again. So, I outlined all my requirements to the mamasans and all of them kept on introducing me with their supplies. I had about 8 interviews before finally made my decision.

Was offered a threesome at IDR460k. Judging from the earlier performance, I decided not to partake and stick to only one. But again, later in the room, the girl was a complete starfish!

This time, however, she allowed me to lick the tits and fingering. Was done with her after about 5-6 positions, tipped her 50k and decided to call it a day in Classics.

Went to Hotel Travel at around 10pm and needless to say the mechanics were the same but choices are much better in classics. Did one pop and called it a day.

Day 2:

Was quite busy with work. Right after work I decided to try my luck again in Classics. It was around 9pm when I got there.

There were a lot of people, mostly Indonesians, and I did not have the mamasans' attention as I had the day before.

Took my time in selecting the girl and had my selection after about 4 interviews. Price was still IDR315k. This time the girl was quite OK. We had a good conversation.

And took my time to do her until the phone rang. Tipped the girl IDR50k and off I went out of Classics. Decided to try Mille in Lokasari. Went there for about 30 mins,

Didn't like the musics and tried Stadium. It was somehow a weird place for me and music was really loud. So, HardMatMat, I am not a pussy! Heheheh.

By the time I got to the hotel it was around 2am. I could not sleep and decided to go down to the lobby for a smoke. Chatted with one of the taxi drivers and he offered me.

To show where the cewek kost were. Agreed with the offer and off we went for a ride (total ride cost after showing several places for about 45 mins was IDR70k).

I had no idea where he brought me but roughly it was still in Mangga Besar vicinity.

We were stopped by one of the papasans along a very quite road. Asked for cewek and he said he got a plenty. I asked how much and the opening price was IDR 1mil. He offered.

To show me the chicks and I agreed but I stressed out that there was no commitment from me. If I like the girl, yes, we re-nego the deal. Otherwise no deal. He got in my taxi and.

We took a ride for about 10 mins. At the destination, there were about 5 Kijangs with about 6 cewek inside each of it. I took my time to choose and had a chat with the shortlisted.

Candidates. Decided to go for a village type of 19 yrs old. Nego was done in Bahasa and I managed to bring it down to 600k for a long term. But it was quite a tough one!

Sex was just normal, nothing to boast, ok GFE. 2 pops, tipped her IDR50k and she went off at around 6am.

Day 3:

Finished meeting around 3pm. Decided to go to Classics for cheap starfish fuck, zero GFE but great bodies. Spent my time around 1 hour cruising and interviewing.

Decided to go with 18 yr old from Bandung. Learning from the past experience that the service here is purely mechanical, I declined the offer for threesome and lowered.

My expectation to purely cheap starfish fuck. The price this time was IDR350k. I was like what the fuck? But calculating it backwards, it was just about additional.

Increase of USD2. I guess it was because of the inflation. Paid the mamasan and get into the room. This time the GFE was good and sex was fun. Finished her off and tipped.

Her IDR50k.

Went back to the hotel, showered and got ready for bar hopping. Took a taxi to Top Gun in Jalan Falatehan. Oh my. This bar really sucks Big time! I was in for about.

15 mins before deciding it was time to leave. The quality of the girls, IMHO, is just between 5-6 with one or two in the 7. Walked along Jalan Falatehan and got into a.

Passing blue bird taxi to CJs. Now, this was the real bar! Excellent music and expensive drinks. Cover charge was IDR130k. Drinks starts from IDR80k. A little bit on the.

Expensive side. But I personally think that it was worth it.

The quality of the girls is CJ is excellent! Mostly around 7-8 scales (I ignored overweight. 35 yrs old). Occasionally I could spot a few 8 and 9. Had a few drinks and.

Headed to the dance floor. Chat around with a few chicks before heading back to the bar. Ordered a drink and waited if any of the chicks that I had chat had any interest.

After about a few minutes, a chick of scale 8 came. She asked me if I'd like for her company for the night. I asked how much and it seemed that she was pissed off and

Moved on. Not a pro I guess, just some girl who wished to have fun. Later came another girl (scale 9) and same conversation took place. Opening Price was IDR1.5mil.

Did not nego as I decided to wait. I had a chat with a few more and it seems the opening price was IDR1. 5mil. Finally, I decided that I wanted one of the girls.

Scale 9 of course and the opening price was again IDR1. 5mil. She's 28, 32C-23-36 from my judgement. After a few minutes of chat, I managed to bring the price down to

800k and agreed to stay until 6am but only 1 pop. This was around 2am. I was like what the heck, let's go as I needed to unload!

It turned out that she was a bisexual. Sex was wild in the bed. Pounding continued for around 45 minutes before I released my load. She was soooo good at the start-stop technique.

And I swear I could feel 3-4 squirts while I was pounding. Round one settled and we cuddled, chatted and had some coffee. Unexpectedly, she was aroused again and we went for a second round,

Which was even better than the first round. Finished the second round and we cuddled and chatted again. She had to go off at 6 am and she had to be in the office by 8am.

I paid her 800k as agreed, no complaints, she did not even count the money (I could just slip IDR500k and short-changed her. Hahahaha but I didn't). Got her number.

And agreed to meet up again next time I am in Jakarta.

Conclusion:

Go to Classics, travel etc for just quick release or cheap starfish fuck with zero GFE and high mileage girl (heck, they serve 8-10 customer per day what do you expect?)

Go to the bars for some excellent GFE but be prepared to pay higher price. It is quality vs. Quantity and for me, it is always the quality.

Go to the taxi driver for kost girls. Village and innocent type. But if your Bahasa is not good, I would not recommend. Haggling would be tough. If I were to pay.

IDR 1 mil and above, I'd stick to the bar scenes.

Thank you HardMatMat for the benchmarking on the prices and tips.

I left Jakarta as a happy man and already planning my next trip. .

Signing off from Jakarta.

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Member #4235
01-28-14, 12:02
Guys,

I'm hitting the indo dating sites now preparing for my next trip this coming Easter for 10 days. I'm getting a lot of hits from girls who are from Bekasi. A few have asked if I can visit them there. Is it worth staying in that area for two nights of my 10 day visit? If the dates go bad are there any clubs with FLs around to entertain me? Or. Should I just forget the idea and concentrate on Jakarta? This will be my third visit and I prefer meeting local girls, not so much places like Classic or Travel.

This time I just want to try something a bit different and try a place not frequented by bules so often.

UsPete
01-28-14, 17:50
Guys,

I'm hitting the indo dating sites now preparing for my next trip this coming Easter for 10 days. I'm getting a lot of hits from girls who are from Bekasi. A few have asked if I can visit them there. Is it worth staying in that area for two nights of my 10 day visit? If the dates go bad are there any clubs with FLs around to entertain me? Or. Should I just forget the idea and concentrate on Jakarta? This will be my third visit and I prefer meeting local girls, not so much places like Classic or Travel.

This time I just want to try something a bit different and try a place not frequented by bules so often.Bekasi is actually joined to Jakarta. The hotels in Bekasi are more family getaway type facilties. It would take a girl about 90 minutes to come and meet you at a Mall in Thamrin area. And 100 000 Rp to her for the taxi home. The girls would also expect you to be staying in central Jakarta and may not be comfortable if you were meeting them to close to their family home.

So if you stay in central Jakarta / Mentang you'll have no problems. Different if you based yourself down south in Blok M.

Don't advise inviting the girl who lives in Bekasi that has been to Ireland that's on all the dating sites. She's a real 1/10 in the flesh.

Muzungufotsy
01-29-14, 01:17
Thnks for the report Bajuaku.

It seems that Classic and Travel don't provide good service anymore and this even after telling the mamasan what you want. Wow that s a big no for me since I would pay for a service not a starfish.

And 1 million as an asking price from village girls? I would say that the papasan and the taxis are quite greedy here. Wonder if you come by urself how much would the price be?

Maybe half of it? What do experienced Jakarta mongers think?

CJ seems to have been a winner for you. Any pics to share?

Hilo77
01-29-14, 02:28
Even though supply was higher than demand, I think this rule did not apply in classics as it is not really a free market (Note to Hilo77). Prices are fixed.Dude, I was obviously referring to freelancers (note the use of the word "free" in regard to both the market and the girls). You didn't seriously expect to go to one of the industrial-sized meat markets like Classic and think you could negotiate your own personal rate did you?

Asian MP Lover
01-29-14, 06:34
introduction

on my latest business trip to jakarta i stayed at mahakam hotel in blok m. even though i am a frequent jakarta visitor, it was a first time for me to stay in blok m. but it gave me the opportunities to explore a new section of the city and its spa scene. in this report i will mention a few places that normally get very little exposure in this forum. the purpose with this report is to share some insights i gathered during my trip. hopefully it can guide others who wants to explore south of blok m. please don't ask for therapist recommendations as i have far too little experience with each place to be able to provide any guidance.

after spending some time in this area i noticed the spa scene is different from the one in central / north jakarta. in the south most places are massage+he oriented. some places offer bj and fs but typically at higher prices than in central / north. typical fs price is 500-800 k idr. bj 300-500 k, and hj 100-300 k. all depending on quality and nego skills.

grand wijaya complex

this area is just besides the darmawangsa square mall. about a 10 min taxi ride from blok m. for map, please refer to.

http://www.streetdirectory.co.id/indonesia/jakarta/travel/travel_id_351/travel_site_167/travel_no_/.

all establishments are located at the eastern part of the center. inside the center, walk up and down the two streets closest to darmawangsa square and you will see plenty of outlets.

this area contains mainly two types of establishments:

- massage+he (e g at my place, delta, persona sehat, blue ocean). my place and delta includes hj as part of sop providing you do three sessions. other places the cost and services are negotiated in the room with the therapist.

- full service (e g fortune, hidup sehat). official package includes massage only. everything else negotiated in the room with the therapist. fortune is very sleek with a nice pool area and big lounge targeting expat and wealthy locals. rooms high standard with proper doors. h s is more locally oriented and lacks facilities except shower room. rooms basic with ac and massage bed, and door sealed off with curtains.

golden plaza, fatmawati

this area is located along jl rs fatmawati. about a 15 min taxi ride from blok m. for map, please refer to.

http://www.streetdirectory.co.id/indonesia/jakarta/travel/travel_id_365/travel_site_236/travel_no_/.

the direct taxi driver to go to lotte mart, jl fatmawati.

this area contains mainly two types of establishments:

- massage+he (e g galaxy). galaxy includes hj as part of sop providing you do three sessions.

- full service (e g mawar). official package includes massage only. mawar is locally oriented and lacks facilities except shower room and a ground floor lounge. rooms small but with proper doors.

conclusion

in summary i had a great time exploring these areas close to blok m. fortune is by far the most upmarket place in terms of facilities and atmosphere. but in terms of service providers looks looks and performance i didn't really notice much difference. english proficiency is mainly with the front staff. most therapists have very limited or no english skills. but i found it quite amusing to use a big smile and hand language to interact with the girls.

at delta, my place and galaxy they will all ask if you want to extend (meaning a third session). answering 'yes' is typically the cue for triggering the extras. don't forget to tip them 100 k for a job well done.

at fortune, hidup sehat and mawar all therapists i sampled offered me extras. younger girls typically have a higher opening price, but my average price for full service was 500 k. a few young stunners tried to get 1 m, but i just laughed them off. as always, young and beautiful girls have a tendency to be starfish experience, with limited massage- & service skills. my top 5 experiences have all been with 25+ why o who could leverage from their years of experience. they are typically more relaxed, better at engaging with the customers and more eager to please.

i hope this report can inspire other to try out these areas and share their experiences. remember, sharing is caring!

asianmplover

Possessed Seoul
01-29-14, 09:39
Can't imagine for the life of me why you would stay in the Islamic Republic of Bekasi. Sure its not a bad place to meet normal girls, but there is fuck all else out there. If she's keen, she'll come to Jakarta to meet you. Plus, you have bars, clubs and malls where you can meet regular girls in far greater numbers in Jakarta proper than in the satellite cities. But if that doesn't dissuade you, jump on a bus or train and go out there for the day. Just don't tell me I didn't tell you not to bother.


Guys,

I'm hitting the indo dating sites now preparing for my next trip this coming Easter for 10 days. I'm getting a lot of hits from girls who are from Bekasi. A few have asked if I can visit them there. Is it worth staying in that area for two nights of my 10 day visit? If the dates go bad are there any clubs with FLs around to entertain me? Or. Should I just forget the idea and concentrate on Jakarta? This will be my third visit and I prefer meeting local girls, not so much places like Classic or Travel.

This time I just want to try something a bit different and try a place not frequented by bules so often.

MasBule
01-29-14, 10:01
great write-up, thanks for sharing.

fyi. also wijaya grand there are also a few 'family' massage places, such as mitra sehat. so if you need to explain your existence there for any reason, its because you were going to a legit family massage place.


introduction

on my latest business trip to jakarta i stayed at mahakam hotel in blok m. even though i am a frequent jakarta visitor, it was a first time for me to stay in blok m. but it gave me the opportunities to explore a new section of the city and its spa scene. in this report i will mention a few places that normally get very little exposure in this forum. the purpose with this report is to share some insights i gathered during my trip. hopefully it can guide others who wants to explore south of blok m. please don't ask for therapist recommendations as i have far too little experience with each place to be able to provide any guidance.

after spending some time in this area i noticed the spa scene is different from the one in central / north jakarta. in the south most places are massage+he oriented. some places offer bj and fs but typically at higher prices than in central / north. typical fs price is 500-800 k idr. bj 300-500 k, and hj 100-300 k. all depending on quality and nego skills.

grand wijaya complex

this area is just besides the darmawangsa square mall. about a 10 min taxi ride from blok m. for map, please refer to..

Wine Guy 247
01-29-14, 12:00
True.

But its a big difference if you go there for a short while on biz or vacation (what most of us here on ISG do). Or if you stay there in your own appartment and car and also speak some of the local language. Opens many more doors and opportunities to the thousands of local ladies eager to meet foreigners for a "longer" relationship (whatever that means) I'd love to hear more. I'm thinking of moving to Jakarta and this could push me over the ledge!

WG

Michelangelo
01-30-14, 05:26
Went to Classic Monday evening at about 8. 00 pm. Not many customers but a fair selection of girls. Several mamasans came to present their girls but I turned them all down until one came up with a very young (19 years) cutie from Bandung. Young, but up to standards. Very GF attitude and a nice session with her which I would certainly repeat. But there are so many more to be entertained.

Fast Eddie 48
01-30-14, 10:49
Thnks for the report Bajuaku.

It seems that Classic and Travel don't provide good service anymore and this even after telling the mamasan what you want. Wow that s a big no for me since I would pay for a service not a starfish.

And 1 million as an asking price from village girls? I would say that the papasan and the taxis are quite greedy here. Wonder if you come by urself how much would the price be?

Maybe half of it? What do experienced Jakarta mongers think?

CJ seems to have been a winner for you. Any pics to share?To Prison break.

I never get good service at Hotel travel been going there for over 5 yr now for 350k you are not going to get GFE and very good service, if you want good service go to Club like CJ, red Square and royal crown even that is a hit and miss you don't alway get GFE but your chance is much better.

Fast Eddie 48

DanTheMan
01-31-14, 16:01
Hi guys,

Jakarta newbie here. Off to Jakarta in about 3 weeks for a week. Some great info to be found off this forum!

I was wondering what this Blok M was, thinking, maybe its like Walking St in Pattaya, but when I goggled it, its a plaza, (am I right?)

Anyway, I'm booking my flight next week, then I'll book accommodation. I'll book for 1, so I don't get asked who is "guest 2". Also Im looking at a more resort style accomadation so I can relax and use their spa facilities.

Some questions,

Are he massage places easy to spot? Will the majority give Hjs or FS?

Are the majority of hotels GF?

Thanks.

Dan

Traveler1234
01-31-14, 16:12
Are he massage places easy to spot? Will the majority give Hjs or FS?Only the Stadium provides a Thailand like soapie massage, all others more typical FS shop.


Are the majority of hotels GF?Yes. 99. 99999% are GF

JkMoore777
01-31-14, 16:20
Went to Classic Monday evening at about 8. 00 pm. Not many customers but a fair selection of girls. Several mamasans came to present their girls but I turned them all down until one came up with a very young (19 years) cutie from Bandung. Young, but up to standards. Very GF attitude and a nice session with her which I would certainly repeat. But there are so many more to be entertained. Classic is my favorite place to go when I'm in Jakarta, I normally get the topless girls as the quality is much better than the ones sitting at the couch. The topless ones are 1.2M normally plus tip (if they are really good).

Mighty Spearsman
01-31-14, 17:28
Hi guys,

Jakarta newbie here. Off to Jakarta in about 3 weeks for a week. Some great info to be found off this forum!

I was wondering what this Blok M was, thinking, maybe its like Walking St in Pattaya, but when I goggled it, its a plaza, (am I right?)

Anyway, I'm booking my flight next week, then I'll book accommodation. I'll book for 1, so I don't get asked who is "guest 2". Also I'm looking at a more resort style accomodation so I can relax and use their spa facilities.

Some questions,

Are the massage places easy to spot? Will the majority give HJs or FS?

Are the majority of hotels GF?

Thanks.

DanBlok M is both a mall and an area. The best drag for meeting girls in Blok M is known as Jalan Falatehan (jalan means street in Bahasa Indonesian) and there are several bars where you can pick up girls, including Top Gun and others. Many of the girls rotate from one bar to the next in searching of a male companion who has money in his wallet. These bars are somewhat lower-end than the hotel bars such as CJs (Hotel Mulia) , BATS (Hotel Shangri-La) and Tiga Puluh or 30 Bar (Hotel Le Meridien), which also means that their rates for ST and LT should be lower.

The best mall for picking up girls during the day in Blok M is actually Pasar Raya Mall. There's also a pretty good FS massage place in the Blok M area known as Maribaya Spa (Hotel Melawai) although the place looks run down, most of the girls are mid-20s are higher in age, and the prices have recently gone up there.

Most massage places are FS. Many of the FS massage places are in Kota at the northern end of town, near the intersection of Jalan Mangga Besar and Jalan Hayam Wuruk. These places include Kartika (highly recommended) , Berlian and Royal Mas (all on the same alley. Photo below) , Stadium (3 alleys south) and several other massage places in-between. Also somewhat nearby are Hotel Travel and Classic, both of which have been written about extensively. Two higher-end mps in this general area are Hotel Maribaya and Alexis.

Be careful if you go to Stadium late at night - it's an interesting and unique place but there's often trouble there (plus it apparently has a big drug scene).

A couple of the high-end spas, such as Fortune (opposite Hotel Le Meridien) and the several spas in the Delta chain, are not necessarily FS, but all will be at least HJ. As far as I know, about he only massage places that does not give any extras are the in-call massage places inside the Somerset and Harris hotels.

There are a couple of low-end areas but I wouldn't recommend them for a newbie visitor who's just here for a few days and does not speak the local language.

Virtually every hotel is GF.

Good luck with the traffic! The best taxi service is Blue Bird / Silver Bird, also the white taxi (Express? not sure about the name) and the green one (Gamya). The TransJakarta Busway can sometimes be the fastest way to travel across town, especially Line #1, which takes you from the Kota area (where Kartika is located) to Blok M.

A few final tips:

- no need to overpay if you meet a girl in a bar. She may ask for a ridiculously high price at first but will usually drop her price quickly. There are several posts discussing this here. If the girl sticks to her guns and continues to insist on over 1 million rupiah, just move on to another girl. There are plenty of hot ladies in Jakarta!

- some of the girls who are working the higher-end hotel bars at 10 pm (and asking for 2 million) can be found at the Jalan Falatehan bars at 1 am, asking for 1 million rupiah, LOL.

- all massage place girls will expect a tip on top of the house fee, in part because they personally receive very little of the house fee themselves (often 100,000 rupiah or less). A tip of 50,000 rupiah or 100,000 rupiah will be much appreciated; I usually gave 100,000 rupiah at the Kota spas unless the service was terrible. Remember, 100,000 rupiah is around US $8 or under 6 Euros these days.

- in many massage places, such as Travel and Classic, the really young girls (barely-18) often do not provide very good service, but the mid-20s girls usually provide great service.

- I personally highly recommend that you try Kartika Spa at least once during your visit. It's one of the few mps that regularly offers a body-to-body nuru-style massage. IMHO, every man should experience a two-girl 1-hour session at Kartika at least once in their life! Hint. Pick one girl and let her pick the second girl.

- if you need a local guide, several mongers including me highly recommend Jakarta After Dark, whose particulars can be found as one of the first posts in the Commercial Ads section of this board.

DogBoy1976
01-31-14, 18:18
The best mall for picking up girls during the day in Blok M is actually Pasar Raya Mall.Excellent advise MS.

Just wondered where is best to hunt within the mall, down in the food court or above ground in the shopping areas (which in my experience tend to be fairly deserted)?

Thanks in advance.

D Cups
01-31-14, 19:06
.Thanks, Spear. I have only been to Jakarta once but am going back next year and this will help. Are you aware of any establishments that feature particularly busty girls? .

Mighty Spearsman
02-01-14, 03:15
Thanks, Spear. I have only been to Jakarta once but am going back next year and this will help. Are you aware of any establishments that feature particularly busty girls? .That's a hard question to answer. When I lived more-or-less full-time in Jakarta (2004-08) , I used to joke that Indonesia was the land of the A-cup, especially amongst the Javanese girls (2/3rds of the population) who average 4 foot 11 inches. 95 to 100 pounds and are probably wearing a padded A-cup bra.

Having said that, I ran across a fairly decent amount of larger-breasted women during my mongering there, but it's hard to generalize as to any one place. At Kartika one could find two Javanese girls, the (now-deceased) Cynthia, who weighed only 100 lbs but was a firm, solid C / D cup sitting on a sofa next to 95-lb. Cindy, who had a drop-dead beautiful face but was barely an A-cup. Maribaya Spa (6th floor of Hotel Melawei) had a decent number of larger-breasted women, in part because they were usually mid-to-late 20s and had had a child, or because they came from Sumatra or Ambon, not Java. One girl at Classic (back in 2008) was barely 20 and had rock-solid D-cups, and a barely-legal girl at a flea-bag brothel in Kali Jodo had monstrous firm breasts but was a total starfish in bed (it was fun to play with those tits, however).

The one valid generalization might be that the high-end spas such as Alexis and Malioboro will feature more firm, busty girls, but you will have to pay accordingly.

All massage places, even the low-end places, will probably feature a few busty girls, all you have to do is ask the mamasan. It took me a while to learn that it's perfectly ok to tell a mamasan that you want a teenage girl with big firm tits who gives a great BJ, or a spinner with a tight twat, or a girl from Madura who specializes in the muscle-contracting thing that those women are famous for, or whatever you're looking for. Don't be shy!

If you're having trouble finding what you're looking for, contact Jakarta After Dark (JAD) as he certainly will be able to hook you up with what you're looking for.

Hilo77
02-01-14, 03:17
the best mall for picking up girls during the day in blok m is actually pasar raya mall. there's also a pretty good fs massage place in the blok m area known as maribaya spa (hotel melawai) although the place looks run down, most of the girls are mid-20s are higher in age, and the prices have recently gone up there.

most massage places are fs.a very comprehensive report ms and i'm sure dan will return the favour with a long and well-written account of his activities, giving the latest info on service, prices etc and pitfalls to be avoided for other newbies.

one or two small points i would raise. blok m mall hunting, i am now convinced there are two alternative blok m mall universes, the one where a bule has merely to show his face in blok m plaza or indeed pasaraya to find himself bedding a voluptuous young javanese or sundanese beauty within the half hour and the one in which i reside and have resided for the best part of ten years when i can count the number of mall pick-ups i achieved in blok m on the fingers of one finger (on a saturday afternoon, three girls, mid-twenties, hanging around outside). any help enlightening witless fools like me in uncovering the mysteries of the blok m malls would be appreciated. location; food court, shops, coffee shops or cinema? time; afternoon or evening?

massage places and fs, for a new arrival the expectation of fs in the well-known massage joints (with exception of fortune and delta, and of course bersih sehat) is probably fair enough although not always guaranteed.

however, long-term residents, particularly those living in the suburbs of south jakarta, who frequent the massage joints advertised by means of little flyers handed out at various traffic junctions every now and again will know that you almost never get fs in these places. these joints are located in commercial buildings or in suburban houses and invariably have a pretty receptionist who will quote a reasonable price for a 90-minute massage (nb you'll rarely get 90 minutes) and lead you back to a room to await your therapist. the room, which you will have plenty of time to observe awaiting your lady's arrival, will be fairly grotty with a manky old bath tub (no doubt bought second hand from mangerrai) and partitions that don't reach the full way up so you can listen to the slap and tickle of your neighbour getting done.

when your therapist arrives she will greet you with a polite smile and ask you to undress and lie on the mattress on the floor. your therapist will be 25-35, plump and the mother of a couple of kids. she will give you a reasonably satisfying massage and after 45 minutes ask you whether you want himself taken care of. negotiations will begin but will centre around whether she will give you a handjob or a blowjob (the latter being only infrequently available). she will take off her top and allow you to fondle her full, if well-used, breasts for extra. full service is almost never available (i say almost as i don't know for certain, only that it has never been available to me). after you have concluded you'll get a rub down in luke-warm water in the tub but the smell and feel of the cheap massage lotion will linger for the rest of the day. extras amount to about 300, 000 or 400, 000 on top of the massage, usually about 150, 000 to 200, 000.

something to do i suppose if you have root-canal surgery you want to put off in the afternoon, otherwise not worth the time, effort or cash.

Hilo77
02-01-14, 03:22
All massage places, even the low-end places, will probably feature a few busty girls, all you have to do is ask the mamasan. It took me a while to learn that it's perfectly ok to tell a mamasan that you want a teenage girl with big firm tits who gives a great BJ, or a spinner with a tight twat, or a girl from Madura who specializes in the muscle-contracting thing that those women are famous for, or whatever you're looking for. Don't be shy!Our posts appear to have crossed each other MS. I would only add to your point of asking very specifically what it is you are looking for that in my experience you can ask for every factor and detail you like, initially the mami will still bring you the girl she's been trying to fob off for weeks (either newly arrived from the kampung and needs broken in or crap attitude and foisted on the mami because she's been kicked out of all the other establishments in the chain). A few polite but firm refusals are required before the mami gets the message you aren't a chump just off the flight from Singapore.

Mighty Spearsman
02-01-14, 03:29
a very comprehensive report ms and i'm sure dan will return the favour with a long and well-written account of his activities, giving the latest info on service, prices etc and pitfalls to be avoided for other newbies.thanks! although dan is new to jakarta, he's not an isg newbie, so i'm confident he'll be writing some informative and entertaining posts about his adventures.


however, long-term residents, particularly those living in the suburbs of south jakarta, who frequent the massage joints advertised by means of little flyers handed out at various traffic junctions every now and again will know that you almost never get fs in these places. these joints are located in commercial buildings or in suburban houses and invariably have a pretty receptionist who will quote a reasonable price for a 90-minute massage (nb you'll rarely get 90 minutes) and lead you back to a room to await your therapist. the room, which you will have plenty of time to observe awaiting your lady's arrival, will be fairly grotty with a manky old bath tub (no doubt bought second hand from mangerrai) and partitions that don't reach the full way up so you can listen to the slap and tickle of your neighbor getting done.

when your therapist arrives she will greet you with a polite smile and ask you to undress and lie on the mattress on the floor. your therapist will be 25-35, plump and the mother of a couple of kids. she will give you a reasonably satisfying massage and after 45 minutes ask you whether you want himself taken care of. negotiations will begin but will centre around whether she will give you a handjob or a blowjob (the latter being only infrequently available). she will take off her top and allow you to fondle her full, if well-used, breasts for extra. full service is almost never available (i say almost as i don't know for certain, only that it has never been available to me). after you have concluded you'll get a rub down in luke-warm water in the tub but the smell and feel of the cheap massage lotion will linger for the rest of the day. extras amount to about 300, 000 or 400, 000 on top of the massage, usually about 150, 000 to 200, 000.

something to do i suppose if you have root-canal surgery you want to put off in the afternoon, otherwise not worth the time, effort or cash.you paint a bleak picture of the south jakarta scene. luckily i had very few experiences such as what you described, despite visiting over 30 different mps during my time in jakarta.

perhaps the best advice is to tell dan to visit the tried and true places for fs, such as kartika / berlian / royal mas, maribaya spa in hotel melawai, hotel malioboro and hotel alexis, travel and classic, maybe sumo shiatsu if he's adventurous enough to travel out to kelapa gading. too bad lokasari plaza is closed.

our posts appear to have crossed each other ms. i would only add to your point of asking very specifically what it is you are looking for that in my experience you can ask for every factor and detail you like, initially the mami will still bring you the girl she's been trying to fob off for weeks (either newly arrived from the kampung and needs broken in or crap attitude and foisted on the mami because she's been kicked out of all the other establishments in the chain). a few polite but firm refusals are required before the mami gets the message you aren't a chump just off the flight from singapore.
good advice! maybe one way to persuade the mamasan to listen to you is to tell her that you'll give her a tip afterwards if she provided you with the girl who was exactly what you were looking for?

Dkooau
02-01-14, 04:09
What have you there during the day time?

Mighty Spearsman
02-01-14, 04:28
What have you there during the day time?A few possibilities:

1) Every MP mentioned in my previous post is open by 11 am / 12 Noon, and many feature two shifts of girls; for example, the day shift girls at Maribaya Spa work until 5:30 pm or so, while the evening shift girls arrive around 5 pm.

Some of my best MP experiences have been with the day shift girls, many of whom work all day and then go home to their child at dinnertime. One young lovely who worked the day shift at Royal Mas said that she tells her family and neighbors that she works in a stall in a shopping mall and they believe her (or pretend to) since she's always home by 6 pm.

2) Hooking up with girls you've met through the Internet dating sites, such as DIA. I personally have not done this, but there have been a lot of posts written here about this.

3) Book "Jakarta After Dark" for a day-time cruise through the mongering sights of Jakarta. I know for a fact that a decent number of his clients book day-time-only tours since they're busy with the missus or business associates in the evening time.

4) Mall hunting at any of several malls; I've had luck at Sarinah Plaza, Plaza Indonesia, Grand Indonesia, Atrium, Plaza Semanggi, Plaza Senayan and Citra Land (Ciputra Mall? It's the one near the highway near the FM Hotel) , as well as riding on the TransJakarta busway. Smile and say hello in Bahasa Indonesian and you'll be surprised at what might happen.

I've even had luck when I wasn't looking, one day at lunchtime I was at Plaza Senayan on the 3rd floor at the French-bread-bakery / cafe, waiting for a lunchtime appointment with esteemed senior member Bulai69, watching people riding on the escalator, when a beautiful 20-ish girl riding up the escalator caught my eye, walked up to me, gave me her cell phone number, said 'call me' and walked away. Another time I was at Starbucks in Plaza Indonesia (near the south entrance) , with a 2-year-old boy sitting in my lap no less, when a office-professionally-dressed woman in her late 20s stopped, gave me her cell phone number and walked away. And I'm old and fat!

TimTimGuy
02-01-14, 04:49
Are you aware of any establishments that feature particularly busty girls? .Aw, D Cups, I've told you that you won't be disappointed! TTG

D Cups
02-01-14, 05:08
The one valid generalization might be that the high-end spas such as Alexis and Malioboro will feature more firm, busty girls, but you will have to pay accordingly. All massage places, even the low-end places, will probably feature a few busty girls, certainly will be able to hook you up with what you're looking for.Thanks, Spear, for the photo, too. Been to Alexis and had a great time. Last time I was in CGK two years ago I also had a DIA three-some with two pair of the biggest knockers I have ever seen on Asian women. One was early 30s and the other, her girlfriend, was early 20s. Together they were magnificient!

Cooldoe
02-01-14, 17:20
A couple of posts ago the remarkable Indonesian type of massage was mentioned that results in red marks across the back of the subject. While looking for some electronics in Plaza Glodok (the bridge-like structure over the road where Jl. Hayam Wuruk transforms into Jl. Pintu Besar Selatan) I saw this type of massage being performed. It is indeed performed using a sort of coin and the subject is not screaming in agony. On the original picture, pre-resizing, you can see that the masseur is not drawing blood, but only just. I squirmed while watching and then asked permission for a picture.

Regards,

KoYou should try bekam.

They draw your blood by punture your skin with needle then force it out with a suction cup

Pak Mike
02-01-14, 22:31
A few possibilities:

2) Hooking up with girls you've met through the Internet dating sites, such as DIA. I personally have not done this, but there have been a lot of posts written here about this.Has always been my approach, and has produced good results

Menteng
02-02-14, 19:07
Here are some samples. I didn't look for them, but like my friend MS wrote, they are out there!

Offshore Swell
02-03-14, 05:39
Well I have to say that it has got me baffled how any long term mongers get any work done in Jkta.

Now here is poor old OS, first day into his mongering break and the BBM and phone just won't leave me alone. Got one 19yo facebook friend on the train on the way in from Bogor. Another who is menstruating has kindly offered to go to Bekasi tomorrow morning and bring me her 18yo friend. And the last one I haven't even told her am in town. This is the kind of logistical challenge that could see me running Federal Express. Ah that reminds me, got to get some extra towels from housekeeping.

Stay tuned folks. Maybe this afternoon we will have some photo's of OS with his big thing in one more facebook friend.

Man I love Indonesia.

OS

D Cups
02-03-14, 15:05
Here are some samples. I didn't look for them, but like my friend MS wrote, they are out there!Nice! Thanks, Menteng!

Simsalabim272
02-05-14, 15:43
Was in Jakarta from Saturday to Monday. For the first time ever. Read a lot of the posts here and came as well-prepared as one can be. Decided to stay at Hotel Ambhara. Perfect GF hotel – no problems whatsoever. Friendly staff, even though they were fully aware of what was going on. They see it every night with many of the guests, I guess.

Saturday, I was quite horny, couldn't wait and went hunting in the nearby malls right away. Many girls sent me eyes and said hello and laughed in a sweet way, and I am sure I could have taken a couple of them with me home, but I was simply too shy to go further down that road and returned empty-handed.

At 22pm I went to Top Gun. It was exactly what I expected after reading the reports here. Mostly women in their 30's, most of them single mothers, but a few of them pretty good looking. Was soon talking with 25-year-old Erna – with a good body and a nice smile. Also her friend, whose name I forgot, and who had a stunning body. Chose Erna though, because of the face, and I did not regret. BBBJ, DATY, several positions and came three times. After that she told me about herself – something I always enjoy listening to, maybe because it makes me feel I am making love to a girlfriend. We made love again and then I sent her home.

Sunday, I went to Top Gun again to pick up Erna's friend. But unfortunately she was not there, and the night was a real disappointment. Went to D's Place and My Bar, but they were empty – only a few scary old women. Went back to Top Gun to wait for the friend, but she never appeared. I was in a bad mood. But then came in a small, tiny and fragile girl. She did not look a day more than 18. Sent her eyes, but she seemed to be in the same mood as I and she was not really up to something – probably because of my size compared to hers. What a pity.

About 1am I just went to a girl and asked her to come with me. There was heavy rain outside, so we had to take the so-called (fake) 'Bluebird'-taxi outside. And of course the driver went in the wrong direction, and the girl did not say anything, in fact she seemed to know the driver. But I knew what this was all about, so I led him in the right direction, and when we came to the hotel, he showed me a sign on the door saying that the minimum was 40,000 IDR. I didn't care at all – we had avoided the rain. The girl was actually good in bed, but – OMG – she had the most terrible breasts I have ever seen in my entire life. Poor woman – she was also ashamed herself. But she gave a good ride and swallowed several loads. I don't think she expected much money, and I gave her for a ST.

Monday I had decided to go to BATS – that should be the grand final. Unfortunately, I had meetings at the hotel and they took a long time, and it was impossible for me to be at BATS before 0:30. But what a place. Totally packed with stunning girls. Unfortunately the best girls were already taken – even though I had decided beforehand to take the very best no matter the price (sorry guys!). Because of all the sex the previous days, I was not quite in the mood, but then came Lia (her real name) or Sammy (working name). She was small and maybe she did not have the best body ever, but she had the most beautiful face – and that is always no. 1 for me. And then she was full of energy, which is also something I like. We went. At the hotel she told me she expected 2 million for LT and 1,5 million for ST. But I told her that I knew from the Internet that nobody ever paid more than 1 milllion. It was late and she accepted. What a deal. This was my best fuck EVER! Afterwards she told me here whole life story in perfect English (at least better than mine). She was very talkative and in such a sweet way. That turned me on and we fucked again. This was the perfect final, and I smiled all the way home on the KLM airplane – what a wonderful girl and what a perfect final.

I have now landed in Amsterdam. I want to take a look at the girls here before I go last kilometers back to Scandinavia. But the girls here are to masculine and cold in my eyes. Nothing compared to those amazing Indonesian girls.

So far, I have only been with hookers (including Thai) in Europe and working girls in China (Chinese and Vietnamese) – but Indonesia was the best and wildest I have ever tried. I have simply fallen in love with the exotic looking, feminine and smiling Indonesian girls. Now, I am already trying to come up with an excuse to go back again. Or maybe to the Philippines and Thailand. Can anyone tell if there are differences (good and bad) between the girls there and the girls in Jakarta? Where do you get the best experience if you – like me – simply cannot live without Asian girls? Where should I go next?

Hilo77
02-06-14, 04:49
Well I have to say that it has got me baffled how any long term mongers get any work done in Jkta.In all seriousness that is actually a problem here. I have often found myself slacking off at times in this town because of my habit, indeed a few years back I did have to pull myself together a bit. I had been put in charge of a small branch away from head office and I found I had long hours with not a hell of a lot to do, with minimal supervision and well, let's just be honest and admit my employer wasn't getting full value from me. After a few months it got so bad that I got a polite but formal warning over the phone that my absences were being noted and I'd need to buck my act up. It was the first time in a quarter of a century in business and employment that I had ever been reprimanded for my work (or lack of it).

Even now I have to shut off one of the SIM cards on my phone (dual-SIM phones, you know if I didn't know any better I'd think they were invented especially for Jakarta, I don't recollect ever seeing such devices in the west) while I'm at work as the constant buzzing of SMS's was driving my colleagues crazy.

I called it a habit above and that's what it is, you spend too much money, you let it affect your work and home life, you think about it constantly, you even post updates and photos on the internet about it!

Is there a twelve steps program for mongers?

TimTimGuy
02-06-14, 08:00
Was in Jakarta from Saturday to Monday. For the first time ever. *snip*

Indonesia was the best and wildest I have ever tried. I have simply fallen in love with the exotic looking, feminine and smiling Indonesian girls. Now, I am already trying to come up with an excuse to go back again. Or maybe to the Philippines and Thailand. Can anyone tell if there are differences (good and bad) between the girls there and the girls in Jakarta? Where do you get the best experience if you – like me – simply cannot live without Asian girls? Where should I go next?Nice first report Simsalabim. You can start a LONG discussion in this Forum about the various merits / flaws of Indonesian, Thai, and PI ladies. Personally, I vote for the Indonesians, but Thailand is really something to be experienced. I don't have much experience in PI, but the little experience was good! TTG

Fast Eddie 48
02-06-14, 08:58
I arrive IN Jarkata last night from Bangkok no rain but I still saw alot of water on the st, staying at the Olympic hotel behing Lopkosari plaza at 435k a night with breakfast it was late check out hotel travel at 11pm not many girl avalible so take a taxi to royal crown disco it was not many people take to a few girl all want one Juta counter 500k they all said no way, finally find a cute girl a little older 30 yr old with a hot body back to the hotel great BBBJ and AR very GFE stay 3 hr with 2 shot one CIM for 500 k she is very happy she want to stay til morning but I was tried want to get some rest going to check out MTR at kota Indah tonight the USD is still strong 100 USD to 1. 21 mil Juta but everything have gone up alot from last yr.

Fast Eddie 48

Member #4410
02-06-14, 23:11
I guess business in Kota etc. must be suffering. When I was in Jakarta in January I could reach Kartika without using a boat but the Jakarta Post showed a picture that now Jalan Medan Merdeka Utara is under water. Are Jl. Hayam Wuruk and Jl. Gadjah Mada accessible?

Regards,

Ko

Mighty Spearsman
02-07-14, 00:08
Was in Jakarta from Saturday to Monday. For the first time ever. Read a lot of the posts here and came as well-prepared as one can be. Decided to stay at Hotel Ambhara. Perfect GF hotel – no problems whatsoever. Friendly staff, even though they were fully aware of what was going on. They see it every night with many of the guests, I guess.

Saturday, I was quite horny, couldn't wait and went hunting in the nearby malls right away. Many girls sent me eyes and said hello and laughed in a sweet way, and I am sure I could have taken a couple of them with me home, but I was simply too shy to go further down that road and returned empty-handed.

At 22pm I went to Top Gun. It was exactly what I expected after reading the reports here. Mostly women in their 30's, most of them single mothers, but a few of them pretty good looking. Was soon talking with 25-year-old Erna – with a good body and a nice smile. Also her friend, whose name I forgot, and who had a stunning body. Chose Erna though, because of the face, and I did not regret. BBBJ, DATY, several positions and came three times. After that she told me about herself – something I always enjoy listening to, maybe because it makes me feel I am making love to a girlfriend. We made love again and then I sent her home.

Sunday, I went to Top Gun again to pick up Erna's friend. But unfortunately she was not there, and the night was a real disappointment. Went to D's Place and My Bar, but they were empty – only a few scary old women. Went back to Top Gun to wait for the friend, but she never appeared. I was in a bad mood. But then came in a small, tiny and fragile girl. She did not look a day more than 18. Sent her eyes, but she seemed to be in the same mood as I and she was not really up to something – probably because of my size compared to hers. What a pity.

About 1am I just went to a girl and asked her to come with me. There was heavy rain outside, so we had to take the so-called (fake) 'Bluebird'-taxi outside. And of course the driver went in the wrong direction, and the girl did not say anything, in fact she seemed to know the driver. But I knew what this was all about, so I led him in the right direction, and when we came to the hotel, he showed me a sign on the door saying that the minimum was 40, 000 IDR. I didn't care at all – we had avoided the rain. The girl was actually good in bed, but – OMG – she had the most terrible breasts I have ever seen in my entire life. Poor woman – she was also ashamed herself. But she gave a good ride and swallowed several loads. I don't think she expected much money, and I gave her for a ST.

Monday I had decided to go to BATS – that should be the grand final. Unfortunately, I had meetings at the hotel and they took a long time, and it was impossible for me to be at BATS before 0:30. But what a place. Totally packed with stunning girls. Unfortunately the best girls were already taken – even though I had decided beforehand to take the very best no matter the price (sorry guys!). Because of all the sex the previous days, I was not quite in the mood, but then came Lia (her real name) or Sammy (working name). She was small and maybe she did not have the best body ever, but she had the most beautiful face – and that is always no. 1 for me. And then she was full of energy, which is also something I like. We went. At the hotel she told me she expected 2 million for LT and 1, 5 million for ST. But I told her that I knew from the Internet that nobody ever paid more than 1 milllion. It was late and she accepted. What a deal. This was my best fuck EVER! Afterwards she told me here whole life story in perfect English (at least better than mine). She was very talkative and in such a sweet way. That turned me on and we fucked again. This was the perfect final, and I smiled all the way home on the KLM airplane – what a wonderful girl and what a perfect final.

I have now landed in Amsterdam. I want to take a look at the girls here before I go last kilometers back to Scandinavia. But the girls here are to masculine and cold in my eyes. Nothing compared to those amazing Indonesian girls.

So far, I have only been with hookers (including Thai) in Europe and working girls in China (Chinese and Vietnamese) – but Indonesia was the best and wildest I have ever tried. I have simply fallen in love with the exotic looking, feminine and smiling Indonesian girls. Now, I am already trying to come up with an excuse to go back again. Or maybe to the Philippines and Thailand. Can anyone tell if there are differences (good and bad) between the girls there and the girls in Jakarta? Where do you get the best experience if you – like me – simply cannot live without Asian girls? Where should I go next?Great report, and proof that a first-time poster can write a post with useful information instead of just asking questions.

A few comments:

- paying 40, 000 rupiah at 1 am in the pouring rain may have seemed like an overcharge but in reality you paid just over US $3, I'm glad you realized that it wasn't a big deal. By the way, I've lived or traveled in several countries where a late night (post-midnight) taxi ride would cost more simply because there's no guarantee that the driver will get another fare quickly at that hour.

- that same girl, the one with the terrible breasts, reminded me of a girl who I had a few sessions with at Stadium's 3rd floor MP back in 2008. That girl claimed to be 24, looked younger, but had had two kids who must have been breast-fed 24/7 and had totally wiped out her breasts. I remember that she always wore a skimpy bandeau (strapless) bra during sex and even in the shower as she was too embarrassed to go bare-chested. No problem, she was great in bed!

- I'm impressed that you stood your ground with Lia / Sammy about not paying more than 1 million, and I hope that other readers will note how quickly she agreed to meet your price.

- I'm not sure I have the courage to enter the "who's better: Thai Filipina or Indonesian girls?" argument as all 3 have their charms. My vote would be for Indonesian girls, however, as the most likely to give a nice GFE experience. Of course I have to always remind myself that it's still a business.

OmBule
02-07-14, 05:31
prelude.

i wish i was an asian rain, with photos of girls with see*m dripping down their faces. i wish i was a dorman, busy with my friday (and thursday!) follies. i wishi was more like all of you, my distinguished betters on this forum. however, unfortunately, i'm easily distracted by out-of-the-way experiences and i lack that get-down-to-business attitude. i like roaming around my personal game of gta: jakarta armageddon and am not focused on leveling up.

i visited medika, classic spa and scorpion recently. here follows a field report.

i: medika.

the other afternoon, with or nothing or little to do and a few rupiah in my pocket, i thought i would venture to mal ciputra to see if it could rival mal atrium. it did not, unfortunately. i saw no likely candidates, although i don't think many bules venture there. ymmv. however, i received many, many smiles that i could have followed up on from the spgs working at the toko toko and department stores. (in comparison to other malls in the scbd).

around jam pulang, just after maghrib, i ventured to medika, the club behind mal ciputra. there was supposed to be sexy dancing there. i took the long way, on foot, along jl daan mogot, as opposed to the back way from ciputra. there's also short cut you can take from the mall before the big gate closes at 10 pm i read on an indonesian forum that women assembled on jl. daan mogot at rush hour and could be taken to the short-time hotels that were a little further to the west. i saw no one, save jakarta's teeming masses, eager to catch their mikrolets and bis kota for the voyage home, and i was not eager to stand there and wait.

walking down jl. daan mogot 1, i reached medika and checked my bag with the black-clad burly ambonese and betawi security guards. i saw a sign that said dangdut, second floor.

hey, i thought, i missed that the first few times i was here. i now had a mission. i entered.

the club was dark and the music was blaring. i heard before that there was dancing at 6 pm 8 p. m, and 10 pm but there was no one there and no signs that a show had just ended.

where's the dangdut, i asked. second floor, a mami replied. she directed me to the stairs on the left.

before i reached the stairway i found a huge fishbowl. one i had not seen before. full of 30 or so girls. each had one redeeming trait. a huge bosom, or a sexy ass, for example. which was complimented by a fatal flaw. bad teeth or a less-than-pretty face. ces't la vie. i know that its about rp 350,000 all-in for those girls. their quality is just biasa, and i would rather go to classic or travel for that amount.

then, another surprise: next to the fishbowl was a large room full of tables where you could sit with girls and buy them drinks. i never saw this before. this room makes the club huge. forgive me, i was probably addled with lust and alcohol on my last trip here.

anyway, i made it to the second floor. the lights were on, the band was setting up. no girls. no singers. two indonesian fellows. customers, like me. just entered, too. we came, we saw, we left. the mami there said dangdut would start at 10 pm

another time, mami. another time.

ii: classic spa.

i went to classic spa the next day. i was not in the mood for a rp 400,000 three-way on the second floor. just a massage plus plus. i have had two or three such massages there before. maybe i could negotiate a little bit more this time. not fj or bj or whatever. just something more erotic. maybe topless from the start, or with more frisky touching.

i got my little number tag (no. 1!) at the front desk. i went to my locker and changed into the shorts provided. the lads took my shoes to be shined. (i tipped them rp 20,000 later). i showered, changed again, went into the hot pool, steam room and sauna for about 45 minutes. i showered again, asked one of the lads for a robe and went into the bar / lounge off of the sauna area.

the bar is the gateway to the massage area. it's dark, not noisy or smokey, with many comfortable chairs and a lot of privacy. the girls sit in a sofa area along one wall about 7 meters away. they are well lit. it's possible to sit and look at the television and make a measured decision about the girls.

i hear that these girls are rp 800,000, but have never tried them. these are not the massage ladies, but full-service ladies. some look pretty, most of them look tired. maybe these are girls from the first floor club on a break; maybe it's overflow seating.

i walked straight back and to the right to the front desk for massages. there are three or four attendants there. one handles the scheduling, two handle the paperwork, i think. the scheduler was a tall, friendly betawi girl. i asked for a hard massage and she said, ok, number 35, she's very good.

bagus sekali, i thought in indonesian, ordered a drink and sat down to wait.

the betawi cewek then took me to the private rooms.

we passed a second area of ceweks, waiting waiting waiting.

i was escorted to tiny room. it's larger if you request a lulur (scrub) or the two-girl special (both of which are rp 450,000 for two sessions), but i requested a massage biasa.

there's a shower and a raised area for the massage in the room. it's a clean, well-lighted place, but no radio or television. fortunately, the music blaring from the first-floor club was enough to cut the silence.

i stripped, wrapped myself in a towel and lay down. several minutes later my massage girl walked in: 18 years old, east javanese. holy crap! a gadis hitam manis with smooth skin and a sweet face. she said she had been working there for three weeks and was obviously a bit uneasy, although she was not shy.

i shelved my plans for the super-erotic massage as to not freak her out. her massage was great. number 35 had strong hands.

she did something that i don't know how it worked. i was on my back. i think her hand was wrapped in a towel. she applied pressure to my ass several times with her knuckles. along my legs and then putting pressure right there, on the prostate. wow. awesome.

she took her time, sometimes sliding her hand along the inside of my leg up to my cock. but not touching it. almost, but no. she kept adjusting the towels as she did the massage. when she did my legs, it would cover half my ass. when she did my front, the towel would just cover my cock (until my erection knocked it aside). yes! this is what i wanted!

eventually, i went for a third session (rp 95,000) for "special massage". she asked for rp 300,000. i said no thanks, thinking that i could be on the second-floor in 15 minutes and pay rp 270,000. she immediately dropped to rp 200,000. it was still too much, but what the hell. the massage girl was sweet and beautiful. as she took control i undid her shirt and bra to see her small, firm light brown breasts and soft skin with dime-sized dark nipples.

after finishing things up, number 35 let her hair down. she was pretty. next time i think i will negotiate at the start: hair down, sexy massage, play with little man, topless. i think it is better to be direct up front.

i cleaned up, showered again and left. we agreed on her tip, which was added to my bill as i left. the attendants up front asked me if the massage girl and i had agreed to rp 200,000. i said yes. i was glad they checked with me.

i gave my "paid" card to the guard and walked out of the hotel.

and then i remembered dangdut.

oh yeah, my original mission.

iii permata / skorpion.

the hotel permata, which has a stuffed tiger in the lobby, is just steps away from classic. it also has club skorpion for "dank dhut". dank dhut, not dangdhut. ha! i arrived at 10 pm just as the club got underway. there were about 30 girls, a nine-member band, one or two mamis, an emcee, waitresses and a few customers.

it's run down. think lone star as opposed to asmoro on jl. blora. i ordered a beer and sat down. the emcee had a blazer thrown over a tee-shirt (style!) and was happy to talk to me (in indonesian (. after we spoke, he took to the stage and made a long speech welcoming everyone to the club, thanking me for arriving, told everyone about the fake job and fake background information i gave him, spoke a little about the songs and the band.

the girls then came on to sing, three at a time. after singing, the girls all came through the crowd (which was growing) , shaking hands with everyone in a friendly way. welcome, mister, they would say. some spoke a few words of english, most spoke only indonesian. one girl, a little older and chunkier sang a javanese-style dank dhut song.

intrigued, i invited her to have a drink with me.

the woman was nonie. 32, from yogyakarta but living in jakarta with her adik. she claimed that she and the girls rotated between three clubs: skorpion, some place in ancol and puri mega near jl pramuka in jakarta timur. most of the girls were janda, either widowed or divorced. some had children, some had none. nonie said that no one was paid a salary and that they relied on tips. i am not sure if i believe that, but it makes sense, given how anxious they were to sit for a drink.

the ladies' drinks, by the way, were the same price as my drink. there was no hidden charge. i bought a few dancers drinks and they were happy to have a hand on their leg and to flirt. i got a light kiss once.

i was ready to go home after a few beers. the emcee came over and asked if i had gotten the nomor hape from all the girls. wow. i forgot, but next time i will. i imagine that a nice, generous guy could make arrangements to see the girls during the day (they work from 10 pm to 3 am). a more intent man could probably make arrangements to meet directly after work. you'd need some indonesian language skills. the girls said they were hesitant to talk to me before they know i could speak indonesian. if you don't speak indonesian, i am sure you could dance with the girls and have fun in the dark. although nothing too nakal.

i walked over to jl peconogan and had some food. it's a culinary hotspot, you know. my free tip to you all. then i was full and tired, so i went home and slept.

fin

MasBule
02-08-14, 02:23
Great post HHH, I really enjoyed reading it. Love your analogy about the city a bit like your own little version of GTA.

Its like that sometimes, at night in the shadows, discovering the city and finding little gems.


Prelude.

I wish I was an Asian Rain, with photos of girls with see*m dripping down their faces. I wish I was a Dorman, busy with my Friday (and Thursday!) follies. I wishI was more like all of you, my distinguished betters on this forum. However, unfortunately, I'm easily distracted by out-of-the-way experiences and I lack that get-down-to-business attitude. I like roaming around my personal game of GTA: Jakarta Armageddon and am not focused on leveling up.

I visited Medika, Classic Spa and Scorpion recently. Here follows a field report.

I: Medika.

The other afternoon, with or nothing or little to do and a few rupiah in my pocket, I thought I would venture to Mal Ciputra to see if it could rival Mal Atrium. It did not, unfortunately. I saw no likely candidates, although I don't think many bules venture there. YMMV. However, I received many, many smiles that I could have followed up on from the SPGs working at the toko toko and department stores. (In comparison to other malls in the SCBD).

Around Jam Pulang, just after Maghrib, I ventured to Medika, the club behind Mal Ciputra. There was supposed to be sexy dancing there. I took the long way, on foot, along Jl Daan Mogot, as opposed to the back way from Ciputra...

Hilo77
02-08-14, 03:46
Prelude.

I wish I was an Asian Rain, with photos of girls with see*m dripping down their faces. I wish I was a Dorman, busy with my Friday (and Thursday!) follies.There are eight million stories in the Nakal City, this has been one of 'them.

Excellent report Om, great to hear news from the lesser trodden paths of this delightfully wicked town.

By the way whatever happened to that Dorman guy, did his heart finally give out after one East Jakarta student threesome too many?

Fast Eddie 48
02-08-14, 08:17
I am in Jarkata for a week for business it is been 8 month from my last trip everything is higher with inflation in Indo, check out Marabaya at Blok M price is up to 600k and girl are ugly even cherry sauna at Lokasari is now 700k, the best deal is still at hotel travel and classic terminal price is still 350k also check out MTR Grand and royal at kota Indah near Mangar dua price is 300k for the girl very young and service is lousy and the music is too damn loud will check out the disco tonight royal crown and stadium.

Fast Eddie 48

Golfinho
02-08-14, 08:29
I never get good service at Hotel travel been going there for over 5 yr now for 350k you are not going to get GFE and very good service.If you never get 'good service' why you keep going back there. For over 5 Years! Just asking.

Smoothy
02-09-14, 00:17
I've also never gotten good service at Hotel Travel. I kept trying it occasionally off and on for over 5 years in hopes that it might improve and would be another good option for variety. But it never did. I stopped going there altogether about 3 years ago. Although the girls are nice looking and the price is cheap, I consider that place to be a waste of time.

Smoothy
02-09-14, 00:26
I visited Medika, Classic Spa and Scorpion recently.Interesting report. Not many bules make the venture over to Medika. JAD took me there on his "Adult Disneyland Tour" many years ago, but you rarely hear about it on this forum. I'd never even heard of Scorpion before. You are obviously more adventurous than the average foreigner.

Michelangelo
02-09-14, 02:34
Walking around Mangga Besar and not in the mood to hit Travel Hotel, I walked into Oasis Spa, opposite Lokansari Place. They run a 40% discount promotion on packages, which include 1 hour standard massage and 45 minutes B2B.

Regular massage girls are mostly 3-5 in the looks, but there was one which was above the lot and certainly 8 in the looks. Gave me a great massage, very professional which I enjoyed a lot. Communication was a bit difficult (I do not speak Bahasa) , but as massage went on she directed my hands towards her boobs (nice C Cup) which she eventually released from her bra when giving me a nice and soft HJ.

After that went back to the group for second selection (standard massage girls wear blue dresses, B2B girls wear green dresses). Mamasan recommended a girl for good service, but she looked to be on the heavy side, so I declined and picked a slim cutie with a nice smile. Good looking girl, petite, perfect body with a nice "C" cup and eager to please. Shower, B2B, shower again, BBBJ and covered FS in multiple positions. Her name is Putri and can only be recommended.

Total damage 395. 000 IDR for a good 2 hours of entertainment.

Member #4410
02-09-14, 03:10
Walking around Mangga Besar and not in the mood to hit Travel Hotel, I walked into Oasis Spa, opposite Lokansari Place. They run a 40% discount promotion on packages, which include 1 hour standard massage and 45 minutes B2B.

Regular massage girls are mostly 3-5 in the looks, but there was one which was above the lot and certainly 8 in the looks. Gave me a great massage, very professional which I enjoyed a lot. Communication was a bit difficult (I do not speak Bahasa) , but as massage went on she directed my hands towards her boobs (nice C Cup) which she eventually released from her bra when giving me a nice and soft HJ.

After that went back to the group for second selection (standard massage girls wear blue dresses, B2B girls wear green dresses). Mamasan recommended a girl for good service, but she looked to be on the heavy side, so I declined and picked a slim cutie with a nice smile. Good looking girl, petite, perfect body with a nice "C" cup and eager to please. Shower, B2B, shower again, BBBJ and covered FS in multiple positions. Her name is Putri and can only be recommended.

Total damage 395. 000 IDR for a good 2 hours of entertainment.Just a matter of curiosity: the Jakarta Post reported flooding of Jakarta as far as Monas (see attachment Jakarta Post February 06). Mangga Besar is reported as being flooded. Why does nobody over the past week say anybody about this? Are they related to Jesus and thus can walk on the water? The mind boggles.

Regards,

Ko

Traveler1234
02-09-14, 03:36
JAD took me there on his "Adult Disneyland Tour" many years ago,. Nice characterization. Typical JAD with his mickey mouse ceweks :D

Michelangelo
02-09-14, 03:42
Just a matter of curiosity: the Jakarta Post reported flooding of Jakarta as far as Monas (see attachment Jakarta Post February 06). Mangga Besar is reported as being flooded. Why does nobody over the past week say anybody about this? Are they related to Jesus and thus can walk on the water? The mind boggles.

Regards,

KoNo need to be Jesus. I did not see any water in the area where I was walking.

Hilo77
02-09-14, 08:06
Just a matter of curiosity: the Jakarta Post reported flooding of Jakarta as far as Monas (see attachment Jakarta Post February 06). Mangga Besar is reported as being flooded. Why does nobody over the past week say anybody about this? Are they related to Jesus and thus can walk on the water? The mind boggles.

Regards,

KoWhile my wife does frequently accuse me of having messianic tendencies I haven't quite developed any miraculous powers yet (it's a miracle that I can get out of bed some mornings but that's another story).

However if you actually read the article you will see the money quote.

"As of 3 PM, he [the Monas satpam] only reported minor flooding surrounding the park."

In other words there was a little bit of localised flooding around the Monas area for an hour or two on Wednesday morning, nothing more.

I was only ever once prevented from getting around Jakarta due to flooding and that was in February 2008 when boats were being used to transport people down Jalan Thamrin. Nothing this year has even come close to that.

I was in Mangga Besar myself on Wednesday afternoon and whilst the mamasan of the Cherry Spa did utter "Oh Christ, not you again!" I doubt if she was referring to my Sea of Galilee pedestrian abilities.

Asian Rain
02-09-14, 08:08
I wish I was an Asian Rain, with photos of girls with see*m dripping down their faces. I lack that get-down-to-business attitude.Nice report. Good to hear something outside of the usual bule haunts.

Here is a tight and pert North Jakarta talent opening her buffet at the Prinsen Park. No cum dripping yet, but definitely ready to get-down-to-business. Just as I prefer. Enjoy Jakarta, AsianRain

Canyon
02-10-14, 05:47
I didn't care for Travel, Top Gun, Classic, Maribaya or any of the places in Blok M. They seemed somewhat run-down and I didn't find the girls attractive. I liked three of the bars: BATS in the Shangri-La, Tiga Puluh at the Meridien and CJ's. My favorite was BATS. Girls

asked 1. 5 million for two hours, and I usually countered with 1 million with a bonus of up to 500K for excellent service. They worked hard for the bonus and it seemed to be the right strategy. I usually don't like overnight, but the one time I asked for it, I got it for 1. 5 million. Hotel Alexis was one of my favorites, but it was expensive. Girls are grouped by nationality. I think Indonesians were around 1. 2 million for one hour and foreigners (Chinese, Vietnamese, Eastern Europeans) cost around 1. 8 million. Quality was high in terms of looks, but service was only average. They also have straight massage and the service was great. For massage parlors, both Fortuna near the Meridien and Sun City were both excellent and offered full sex as well as the massage. Some people like Marlioboro, but I was underwhelmed.

I'm going back in May. I would appreciate any suggestions for places I have not named here-especially high-end places.

Fast Eddie 48
02-10-14, 07:17
I've also never gotten good service at Hotel Travel. I kept trying it occasionally off and on for over 5 years in hopes that it might improve and would be another good option for variety. But it never did. I stopped going there altogether about 3 years ago. Although the girls are nice looking and the price is cheap, I consider that place to be a waste of time.To Smoothy.

I check ut Millie disco last night around midnight pick up a girl with hot body very GFE stay 3 hr 500 k, the girl quality at hotel travel is going down hill girl at classic terminal have better girl but none of them are happy to be there and sex is ok but the attuide is not.

Fast Eddie 48

Madvic
02-10-14, 07:19
It's been 14+ years since I've been to Indonesia, I can still remember those great days of US$1 = Rp65, 000.

I'm finally in town for a few days, staying at Le Meridien, and was wondering what's the typical rate for the ladies downstairs at Tiga Puluh? A quick look at recent posts shows Rp400K-500K is about right for a short time and maybe Rp 1 Million for all night, am I in the ball park here? Is there a "walk of shame" from the bar or is it a straight shot from the bar to my room?

Thanks very much.

MadVic

FreebieFan
02-10-14, 09:19
? Is there a "walk of shame" from the bar or is it a straight shot from the bar to my room?

Thanks very much.

MadVicAs many more local brothers here will tell you, if you get the rooms on the same tower as TP, then its up the escalators from the club, and almsot immediately your in the elevator to your room. I think I've done the club to the room route, in about 2 minutes max on many ocassions.

Gonzo Two
02-10-14, 10:44
It's been 14+ years since I've been to Indonesia, I can still remember those great days of US$1 = Rp65, 000. I'm finally in town for a few days, staying at Le Meridien, and was wondering what's the typical rate for the ladies downstairs at Tiga Puluh? A quick look at recent posts shows Rp400K-500K is about right for a short time and maybe Rp 1 Million for all night, am I in the ball park here? Is there a "walk of shame" from the bar or is it a straight shot from the bar to my room?Tiga Puluh is a very pale shadow of its former self, totally unlike the way it was when you were here. You might well find the place completely deserted on a weekday, and not much better on the weekend. Also, prices have gone up dramatically all over Jakarta, you'll be lucky to get the prices you mention even at Top Gun in Blok M, let alone the hotel bars. In those bars, it's closer to a million for ST, and 1. 5 to 2 for all night. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but those days have gone.

Madvic
02-10-14, 12:39
Well, I've never been to Tiga Puluh before, that's why I asked. I did find it this afternoon and see that it is a quick walk to the lift and upstairs. My fun times in Indo before were over at the Shangri-La in Surabaya and over on Sulawesi (I think the city is now called Makkasar?).

Thanks for the update on pricing. When I was doing some research here, a few months ago, I thought I saw ST rates were around Rp400-500K. I guess, I'll have to budget more.

Thanks!

MadVic

Fast Eddie 48
02-11-14, 15:54
Tiga Puluh is a very pale shadow of its former self, totally unlike the way it was when you were here. You might well find the place completely deserted on a weekday, and not much better on the weekend. Also, prices have gone up dramatically all over Jakarta, you'll be lucky to get the prices you mention even at Top Gun in Blok M, let alone the hotel bars. In those bars, it's closer to a million for ST, and 1. 5 to 2 for all night. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but those days have gone.To Gonzo two.

I was at Blok M last night most girl are dog not like the good old days 300k for all night, most good looking girl asking 1 juta for 3 hr will not drop the price even with the strong USD that is still very high.

Fast Eddie 48

Fast Eddie 48
02-11-14, 15:59
While my wife does frequently accuse me of having messianic tendencies I haven't quite developed any miraculous powers yet (it's a miracle that I can get out of bed some mornings but that's another story).

However if you actually read the article you will see the money quote.

"As of 3 PM, he [the Monas satpam] only reported minor flooding surrounding the park."

In other words there was a little bit of localised flooding around the Monas area for an hour or two on Wednesday morning, nothing more.

I was only ever once prevented from getting around Jakarta due to flooding and that was in February 2008 when boats were being used to transport people down Jalan Thamrin. Nothing this year has even come close to that.

I was in Mangga Besar myself on Wednesday afternoon and whilst the mamasan of the Cherry Spa did utter "Oh Christ, not you again!" I doubt if she was referring to my Sea of Galilee pedestrian abilities.To Hilo 77.

I was at Cherry last week too the girl there are dog and want 700k are they trying to price themself out of business, Classic Terminal and hotel travel is still 350k two girl for 525k.

Fast Eddie 48

Golfinho
02-11-14, 17:52
To Hilo 77.

Classic Terminal and hotel travel is still 350k two girl for 525k.Is it still you never got good service there since you been going there 5 years and you keep going back.

Member #4410
02-11-14, 22:18
Is it still you never got good service there since you been going there 5 years and you keep going back.You will not get an answer from this onehanded typist. I doubt if he ever leaves the safety of his keyboard.

Regards,

Ko

Hilo77
02-12-14, 02:04
To Hilo 77.

I was at Cherry last week too the girl there are dog and want 700k are they trying to price themself out of business, Classic Terminal and hotel travel is still 350k two girl for 525k.

Fast Eddie 48At least you got a quote for the job, last time I was there I got a perfunctory massage after which the girl asked "ada lain?", yes there very much was ada lain so could she kindly get on with it.

"Gak bisa mister, lagi mens".

Well she damn well might have brought that piece of information up before we went to the room.

I get the impression that bules actually aren't that welcome in Cherry, maybe I'm just being paranoid.

Member #4235
02-13-14, 16:29
Can't imagine for the life of me why you would stay in the Islamic Republic of Bekasi. Sure its not a bad place to meet normal girls, but there is fuck all else out there. If she's keen, she'll come to Jakarta to meet you. Plus, you have bars, clubs and malls where you can meet regular girls in far greater numbers in Jakarta proper than in the satellite cities. But if that doesn't dissuade you, jump on a bus or train and go out there for the day. Just don't tell me I didn't tell you not to bother.Thanks for the advice. Glad I asked. Don't think I'll be going out there!

Fast Eddie 48
02-13-14, 18:06
At least you got a quote for the job, last time I was there I got a perfunctory massage after which the girl asked "ada lain?", yes there very much was ada lain so could she kindly get on with it.

"Gak bisa mister, lagi mens".

Well she damn well might have brought that piece of information up before we went to the room.

I get the impression that bules actually aren't that welcome in Cherry, maybe I'm just being paranoid.To Hilo77.

They show me the price down stair on the front desk after I went upstair and look at the girl and turn around and left, don't know why they are still in business so many place around the area have much better girl at a lower price.

Fast Eddie 48

John Marigold99
02-14-14, 12:38
You remember US$1 = Rp65, 000? I don't think so. In 1995-96 the Rupiah traded at about Rp2, 300 per USD. The Asian currency crisis in 1997-98 severely affected the Thai Baht and the Rupiah. In June 1998, the Rp hit bottom at Rp16, 800. It has never come close to Rp65, 000.


It's been 14+ years since I've been to Indonesia, I can still remember those great days of US$1 = Rp65, 000.

I'm finally in town for a few days, staying at Le Meridien, and was wondering what's the typical rate for the ladies downstairs at Tiga Puluh? A quick look at recent posts shows Rp400K-500K is about right for a short time and maybe Rp 1 Million for all night, am I in the ball park here? Is there a "walk of shame" from the bar or is it a straight shot from the bar to my room?

Thanks very much.

MadVic

Smoothy
02-14-14, 14:50
To Hilo77.

They show me the price down stair on the front desk after I went upstair and look at the girl and turn around and left, don't know why they are still in business so many place around the area have much better girl at a lower price.

Fast Eddie 48The last time I went to Cherry was about a year ago. But at that time there were a few real gems there.

Hilo77
02-15-14, 06:41
i popped into d's for a quickie (drink) on the way home from work the other night. i noticed the door of the vip room was propped open and all the lights were on inside. thinking this odd i mentioned it to the bar maid, she replied that it was because of a police raid, i asked her when the raid was and she replied "later tonight". you really have got to love a town where the peelers give advance notice to the knocking shops that there will be a raid.

speaking of d's, surely i can't be the only one who has impure thoughts about the mother / daughter team of waitresses? they could easily pass for sisters and are as sexy as all get out. unfortunately as the older lady is the missus of one of d's owners (lucky bar steward) i am pretty certain that is one particular sick fantasy i won't be fulfilling, but a man can dream can't he?

Fast Eddie 48
02-16-14, 15:21
I was in Jarkata last week visit Hotel Travel and Classic Terminal a few time, I find girl attuide is down from last yr price is the same as last yr 350k but girl are more pushy on tip than before the last girl at hotel travel is so pushy she will not open the door unless I tip her.

Fast Eddie 48

Fast Eddie 48
02-16-14, 15:27
You remember US$1 = Rp65, 000? I don't think so. In 1995-96 the Rupiah traded at about Rp2, 300 per USD. The Asian currency crisis in 1997-98 severely affected the Thai Baht and the Rupiah. In June 1998, the Rp hit bottom at Rp16, 800. It has never come close to Rp65, 000.To John Marigold 99.

Many Indonesia businessman I talk to think they will have another bank and enconomy crsis the next few yr not as bad as the one in 1998, after the riot in Jarkata the Rp hit bottom and I remember the government reissue new currency I have to go to the bank to exhange my old currency.

Fast Eddie 48

Joel Goodsen
02-19-14, 02:05
Talk about money. The continuous price rises in the most popular bars (blok M, CJ's, Bats) can be a bit hard to watch for long term Indonesian visitors like myself.

As an example. Just a few years ago, ST prices in the bars of Blok M ranged from 300k to 350k. I was happy with that. Then it became 500. Still ok. But I found myself negotiating it back to 400k every time, as it takes less than an hour to spill my yoghurt, and 500k I found a price to be inflated by tourism.

But then came the IDR depreciation, late last year. 2013. The Indonesian account balance was in trouble and at exactly the same time, ST prices jumped up to 700k.

Now, inflation and cost of living have remained stable over the time period. Showing tourism being the main factor to drive ST price hikes.

Either visitors (tourists) coming to Jakarta do not have much of a clue about the current rates or they convert to their own currencies. It must be that.

Because, if I go out to either Jakarta's North, West or East and pick up a freelancer there, prices have remained the same, give or take 50k, for about the last 10 years.

The other week, I was in the back alleys of KaliJodo. Historically, one of the oldest, if not the oldest, monger area in Jakarta. Not entirely safe, but I love being there. It is a completely local scene. No tourists. And a freelancer over there, still charges the same as about 10 years ago. Same quality, but about a third of the new, blok M price.

How much tourism has taken hold of mongering Jakarta, was shown a while back here in the forum. A guy posted that he had paid 250k for a freelancer. Being considered stingy, he got flamed for that. By many.

So even here, when it comes to pricing, most still don't understand what they are talking about. Anyway, I go to blok M for drinks only nowadays. Enjoy Jakarta.

Hilo77
02-19-14, 11:18
Because, if I go out to either Jakarta's North, West or East and pick up a freelancer there, prices have remained the same, give or take 50k, for about the last 10 years.

The other week, I was in the back alleys of KaliJodo. Historically, one of the oldest, if not the oldest, monger area in Jakarta. Not entirely safe, but I love being there. It is a completely local scene. No tourists. And a freelancer over there, still charges the same as about 10 years ago. Same quality, but about a third of the new, blok M price.

How much tourism has taken hold of mongering Jakarta, was shown a while back here in the forum. A guy posted that he had paid 250k for a freelancer. Being considered stingy, he got flamed for that. By many.

So even here, when it comes to pricing, most still don't understand what they are talking about. Anyway, I go to blok M for drinks only nowadays. Enjoy Jakarta.Couldn't agree more, when I first went to Marabaya on the 6th Floor 10 years ago, it was Rp 300, 000 for an hour, nowadays it's what 500, 000, 550, 000? Plus tips and over priced beer that's beginning to be a serious chunk of change for a place that's barely had lick of paint in all that time and where quite a few of the same girls who serviced me back then are still working there.

Meanwhile my freelancers who I use to recruit other girls from North and West Jakarta are still looking for pretty much the same as they have over the past six or seven years, and as Joel says that's because they aren't servicing bules.

Someone's messing with the market chaps.

UsPete
02-19-14, 11:57
Talk about money. The continuous price rises in the most popular bars (blok M, CJ's, Bats) can be a bit hard to watch for long term Indonesian visitors like myself.

As an example. Just a few years ago, ST prices in the bars of Blok M ranged from 300k to 350k. I was happy with that. Then it became 500. Still ok. But I found myself negotiating it back to 400k every time, as it takes less than an hour to spill my yoghurt, and 500k I found a price to be inflated by tourism.

But then came the IDR depreciation, late last year. 2013. The Indonesian account balance was in trouble and at exactly the same time, ST prices jumped up to 700k..When I first drank in TopGun the girls would ask for Rp50 000 LT and 1 US$ was about 2800 RP. I was a combination of 23 years old, niave and stingy so saw no reason to pay. Pentagon bar was over the road where later on the rich girls would be looking for bule meat anyway.

Last year on a trip to Jakarta I realised it was 21 years since I last pulled in TopGun so decided to reward myself a present from there. With low expectations of the quality and the fact that some of the girls were still in residence from 21 years ago (bought them soft drinks) I was actually quite impressed by the quality (about 9pm).

Took out a Sundanese lass, very good manners so went to a Sports bar in Menteng to catch some football. She'd been working hard in the Japanese bars south of the blok m bus station and fancied a change of work venue. No complaints about her service and attention to detail after the match. As she got ready to leave the hotel room I thought shit what's the going rate for this. As I'm now old enough to understand these girls need the money. I offered Rp 600 000 as a guess. She gave me back RP 100 000 and said 1/2 mill was cukup.

Fast Eddie 48
02-19-14, 16:25
Talk about money. The continuous price rises in the most popular bars (blok M, CJ's, Bats) can be a bit hard to watch for long term Indonesian visitors like myself.

As an example. Just a few years ago, ST prices in the bars of Blok M ranged from 300k to 350k. I was happy with that. Then it became 500. Still ok. But I found myself negotiating it back to 400k every time, as it takes less than an hour to spill my yoghurt, and 500k I found a price to be inflated by tourism.

But then came the IDR depreciation, late last year. 2013. The Indonesian account balance was in trouble and at exactly the same time, ST prices jumped up to 700k.

Now, inflation and cost of living have remained stable over the time period. Showing tourism being the main factor to drive ST price hikes.

Either visitors (tourists) coming to Jakarta do not have much of a clue about the current rates or they convert to their own currencies. It must be that.

Because, if I go out to either Jakarta's North, West or East and pick up a freelancer there, prices have remained the same, give or take 50k, for about the last 10 years.

The other week, I was in the back alleys of KaliJodo. Historically, one of the oldest, if not the oldest, monger area in Jakarta. Not entirely safe, but I love being there. It is a completely local scene. No tourists. And a freelancer over there, still charges the same as about 10 years ago. Same quality, but about a third of the new, blok M price.

How much tourism has taken hold of mongering Jakarta, was shown a while back here in the forum. A guy posted that he had paid 250k for a freelancer. Being considered stingy, he got flamed for that. By many.

So even here, when it comes to pricing, most still don't understand what they are talking about. Anyway, I go to blok M for drinks only nowadays. Enjoy Jakarta.To Joel Goodsen.

I agree Inflations hit Indo hard the last 5 yr most freelancer in Jarkata has raise their price is double from 7 yr ago, I was at Millie disco most girl want one Juta now all all nighter when I was there a few month I pick one up 300k stay 3 hr 2 shots but not this trip, you can still get girl at Stadium in house for 350k same as Hotel travel and Classic terminal even Bitang Mawar drop their price to 325k it was 400k on my last trip, place like Cherry massage and melawi hotel 6th sauna is pricing themself out of the market will be out of business very soon.

Fast Eddie 48

Michelangelo
02-21-14, 01:50
Inflation has indeed hit Blok M but the quality of girls has gone downhill. Top Gun had nothing to be considered for take out when I was there a couple of weeks ago, D's Place was a bit better. Finally ended up on the other side of the city and had a great time with a little spinner at Classic for 350k.

Member #4537
02-21-14, 13:47
There's no inflation. My plate of soto ayam still costs the same as it did 3 years ago and the rent did not change for even longer.

If they even know what it inflation is, it's all just an excuse to get more money. The other side of town where freelancers of the same quality look for Asian clients, for example, are still charging the same they've been charging since 5 years ago so it's obviously a Bule-only thing. Besides, we're not in Thailand and the economy, demographics and salaries here all work to our benefit.

If you get a price higher than average (4/500k ST and 800 LT) at the Blok, just bargain her down then walk away if she doesn't budge. With an overly saturated market like here they will be back in no time coming looking for you to go with them for your price once they figure out they would be better with money than no money at all. And it'll work in places like BATS and CJ's too, if they aren't popular enough, because it costs them 150K to get in and another 50k or so to get there.

Madvic
02-21-14, 14:54
You remember US$1 = Rp65, 000? I don't think so. In 1995-96 the Rupiah traded at about Rp2, 300 per USD. The Asian currency crisis in 1997-98 severely affected the Thai Baht and the Rupiah. In June 1998, the Rp hit bottom at Rp16, 800. It has never come close to Rp65, 000.OK, it's been a long time, but that is what I seem to recall from back then. If I'm wrong, sorry.

By the way, I thought Tiga Puluu wasn't too bad. I finally bedded a cutey named Erin. Kept her all night for USD$100. Now I know the guys who know Jakarta will blast me for paying that much, but I'm not real familiar with the local activities and didn't have much time to go exploring.

I was happy, she was happy. That's all that matters.

MadVic

OmBule
02-24-14, 03:58
I have a question for those here in the republic for the long-haul: Do you find it better to tone up or tone down your local savvy when playing the game?

I have some profiles on social networking sites where I completed the "about me" section in Indonesian (although my Indonesian is meh, maybe). And I've noticed that since I've done that, I've got less replies. Or more Zzzzz nicey-nice girl replies.

Similarly, I wear batik, which goes over well professionally. And I think that the ladies go huh, om bule, and walk on by.

It's like I'm too local, with all of the negative things that that implies. When I wear Western dress, it feels different.

So I am thinking: I should tone down the localness, maybe pretend to be passing through. Simplify the social media profile with only a dash of local language and bust out the Sundanese, gaul and Javanese (mongo!) later.

I wonder how long-haul residents have changed their game over the long haul. And I wonder if it is just me getting to reflective and melancholy as I get older.

PS Thank you to the members like Hilo77 and AsianRain, who had kind words about my last report. And thanks everyone for the information on the board.

Master Diver II
02-24-14, 08:30
OK, it's been a long time, but that is what I seem to recall from back then. If I'm wrong, sorry.

By the way, I thought Tiga Puluu wasn't too bad. I finally bedded a cutey named Erin. Kept her all night for USD$100. Now I know the guys who know Jakarta will blast me for paying that much, but I'm not real familiar with the local activities and didn't have much time to go exploring.

I was happy, she was happy. That's all that matters.

MadVicMost FLs in Jakarta would be happy if they get USD100 for overnight. I'm not going to blast you, but I will chide you. The fact is that we have this site so that we can discuss local pricing in order that we don't spoil the market for others. The bottom line is that if enough people come in and start paying these prices without a thought as to the effect, you get the current situation where it becomes the normal price in that location. I myself haven't been to Tiga Puluh for years. Much as I enjoyed going there at one point in time. This is a regular topic that crops up on the forum and everyone seems to have their opinion. However, I recall when I first joined some years back that one of the primary purposes would be so members would know where to go for our hobby, and how much we should pay. This was so that we wouldn't be overpaying and creating problems for ourselves. The other confusing factor that comes in is that some members quote in USD and some in Rupiah. I would suggest, due to fluctuating forex rates, that we should also stick to pricing in Rupiah and add the pricing in USD / Euro / Sterling etc in brackets after. Any thoughts?

Just as an aside, I have paid 1 million rupiah in Tiga Puluh some time back, but then again it was for almost 24 hours so she did deserve it. The normal rates back then (circa 2006) were 300-500k LT. I also had 4 girls for 1 million from Tiga Puluh for about three hours back then. They were friends and shared transport costs (and it was ladies night) so it made economic sense to them. That was when Bulai69 and Menteng were regular posters in this forum. Damn I'm starting to show my age if I'm going to go on reminiscing about "the good old days".

MD II

Canyon
02-24-14, 21:27
I don't think there are enough of us on this board to influence pricing in Jakarta, since it's a huge market. The market controls pricing; we don't, so all the admonitions to bargain and keep down the price are probably useless. You can't really blame the girls. They're right to get the best deal for themselves as they can. If their prices are too high, no one will buy their services and they will have to lower their prices. The same thing applies to us. If we aren't willing to pay the going rate, no one will go with us. It's pointless to complain. The market is the market, and you better understand that.

In my own pursuits, I like to read what others are paying to get a sense of the market. However, the market is not one price. The sexier, younger, more attractive girls can get better prices. Also, the same girl may hold out for more money earlier in the evening and drop her price if she can't find a customer. Similarly, she may go for a lower price if she really needs the money badly. Personal chemistry is also a factor. If she finds you attractive, she may charge you less. All this means one price is not the market for all situations.

I'm pretty demanding, so I'm willing to pay a bit more, if I really like the girl. One problem with bargaining real hard is that it can result in a lower level of service. If you don't pay her price, you can get a rushed service and of lower quality. I've found that I get much better service if the girl likes me and I'm paying a fair price. Tough bargaining can really spoil the mood. Here is an example of what I would do. At BATS, the going rate for two hours of service is around $100 US from someone who is pretty attractive. All-night can go up to $150. By reading ISG, I can get a sense of the market. Let's say I see a stunner at BATS who I would like to take to my room. After a nice conversation, I tell her what I want. I try to be pretty specific. She quotes me $200 for two hours. I don't walk away, because I really like her. I don't make a low-ball offer either. I tell her that her price seems pretty high and that I usually pay $100 for good service for two hours. She'll say that she's worth more. I'll tell her that she is definitely worth more, but $200 is pretty high. After a while, she may come down to $150. I'll say that I have a proposal for her: I'll give her $100, but if the service is really good, I'll include a $50 tip for a total of $150. Most of the time, she will accept the offer. This accomplishes a number of things. First of all, she doesn't lose any face that she might if I were a hard bargainer. Second, I can limit my downside to $100 if she gives me mediocre service. Third, I will probably get great service, because she'll be thinking about the $50 incentive. She will also feel good about me, since I've affirmed her value.

Now, some of you may say that I'm ruining the market and that I could get a girl to go with me for short-time for $50 or $75. That may be true, but it's probably not true for the girl that I want. Also, there's no bad feeling. She'll work really hard, because I've been polite with her and she wants to get that $50 bonus.

Member #4537
02-25-14, 03:06
You can't really blame the girls. They're right to get the best deal for themselves as they can.You're absolutely right that we can't control the market, but why do you have to add fuel to the fire by overpaying and making it appear as though Westerner Bule are walking ATMs that can be tricked and manipulated? You paid $150 the other night, that's nearly a solid 2 juta.

With local and Asian clients, because they haven't been over paying them, they still get lower prices than Westerners for the exact same thing and sometimes for better quality and girls. Do you get my point?

A lot of these FLs add 100% or even 200% when they are in a Westerner Bule-only zone. For example, a girl who used to hang out at Lokasari and charges 400K to the local guys and even foreigner, suddenly asks 1.5 and even 2 juta at BATS. Has she changed one bit? Nope, but maybe a little genuine worn out Gucci handbag she borrowed from her friend that she brings everyday to make it appear as though she's high-class enough that you need to over pay her.

Let's not forget another thing. These girls unless they are from a rich family would probably be making a salary between 1.8 juta to 3 juta a month working 15 hours a day. If they're graduates from the average university here they'll be making 5 to 7 juta tops. So I can't understand why some guys here are saying "$100 is not a lot of money for them"?

Hilo77
02-25-14, 10:22
i have a question for those here in the republic for the long-haul: do you find it better to tone up or tone down your local savvy when playing the game?i find it's horses for courses. when you're visiting your "dank-dut" clubs a proficiency in bi is not only useful it's pretty damn near essential. on the dating and other sites you're looking to meet a different type of woman though aren't you? the sort of girl who's online, if she's interested in bules, is interested in them because they are seen as a bit exotic a bit of a change, and hopefully without the bad attitudes that the girls might associate with local guys. to put it another way, if you lived in the states and were looking to meet indonesian girls online because the sweet indonesian girl is your ideal, well then you'd probably avoid an indonesian girl who had lived long-term in the us and had assimilated all the characteristics and speech patterns of a valley girl.

one other point is that an indonesian woman will associate long-term residence in indonesia and proficiency in the lingo with what they endearingly term a "playboy". they will assume with perhaps some justification that you mastered the language through your wide range of long-haired dictionaries. i know my missus gets automatically suspicious if i use some bahasa expression (god forbid i should use sundanese, that would be a dead giveaway) or make reference to some local cultural thing or "artis" (and at this point it might be worth warning all you married guys that if you normally converse with your wife in english try not to let slip "oh iyah sayang, kaya begitu aja!" when she starts performing a particular act of lovemaking, not only will the act end suddenly without fulfillment the chances are you'll be spending the rest of the night on the couch. i know of which i speak).

on the batik thing, again it depends on the batik, if you have a fine selection of batik outfits carefully collected from your travels around the archipelago then they certainly would be a nice touch, a little idiosyncrasy associated with yourself. if however you wear batik like a bule kampung, you know the type, the english teacher eating his mie goreng at the warung with two batik shirts to his name, which he wears constantly because he can't be bothered washing and ironing a proper business shirt every day, then it might not come across so successfully.

so to answer your question i usually downplay the length of time i am here but that is mainly because i speak bahasa pidjin and i don't want to come across as a complete numpty. but like every thing else, the less they know about you and the more things you know about them the better by far.

Menteng
02-25-14, 12:51
I don't think there are enough of us on this board to influence pricing in Jakarta, since it's a huge market. The market controls pricing; we don't, so all the admonitions to bargain and keep down the price are probably useless. You can't really blame the girls. They're right to get the best deal for themselves as they can. If their prices are too high, no one will buy their services and they will have to lower their prices. The same thing applies to us. If we aren't willing to pay the going rate, no one will go with us. It's pointless to complain. The market is the market, and you better understand that.

In my own pursuits, I like to read what others are paying to get a sense of the market. However, the market is not one price. The sexier, younger, more attractive girls can get better prices. Also, the same girl may hold out for more money earlier in the evening and drop her price if she can't find a customer. Similarly, she may go for a lower price if she really needs the money badly. Personal chemistry is also a factor. If she finds you attractive, she may charge you less. All this means one price is not the market for all situations.

I'm pretty demanding, so I'm willing to pay a bit more, if I really like the girl. One problem with bargaining real hard is that it can result in a lower level of service. If you don't pay her price, you can get a rushed service and of lower quality. I've found that I get much better service if the girl likes me and I'm paying a fair price. Tough bargaining can really spoil the mood. Here is an example of what I would do. At BATS, the going rate for two hours of service is around $100 US from someone who is pretty attractive. All-night can go up to $150. By reading ISG, I can get a sense of the market. Let's say I see a stunner at BATS who I would like to take to my room. After a nice conversation, I tell her what I want. I try to be pretty specific. She quotes me $200 for two hours. I don't walk away, because I really like her. I don't make a low-ball offer either. I tell her that her price seems pretty high and that I usually pay $100 for good service for two hours. She'll say that she's worth more. I'll tell her that she is definitely worth more, but $200 is pretty high. After a while, she may come down to $150. I'll say that I have a proposal for her: I'll give her $100, but if the service is really good, I'll include a $50 tip for a total of $150. Most of the time, she will accept the offer. This accomplishes a number of things. First of all, she doesn't lose any face that she might if I were a hard bargainer. Second, I can limit my downside to $100 if she gives me mediocre service. Third, I will probably get great service, because she'll be thinking about the $50 incentive. She will also feel good about me, since I've affirmed her value.

Now, some of you may say that I'm ruining the market and that I could get a girl to go with me for short-time for $50 or $75. That may be true, but it's probably not true for the girl that I want. Also, there's no bad feeling. She'll work really hard, because I've been polite with her and she wants to get that $50 bonus.I understand the second part of what you have stated. But there's no huge market involved. It's about CJ's, BATS, Tigapuluh and the bars at Faletehan. Places, frequented by foreigners.

Because the supply is not huge, the girls can maintain their high price or even increase it because they know they are rare. And they manipulate foreigners who fall for their charms, thus raising the prices. And once they know a foreigner is willing to pay their new price, they will continue doing so: marketforces! You are willing to pay $150 when you get good service. Next time the girl will try again to get the $ 200 and one day, an eager guy will be willing to pay that. So, next time you want the same good service you have had with her, you'll have to pay $ 200. For $ 150 you'll get a basic treatment.

It's different in the northern part of Jakarta. There's a huge supply there. So the girls have to keep their lower prices to survive the competition.

Pita123
02-25-14, 12:56
Just arrived and will be here until Saturday. If anyone wants to grab a drink and swap stories that would be cool. Always find it funny to be alone at Classic Terminal or Alexis while all these groups of guys are sitting around joking with one another. I use the place like an in / out brothel rather than a place to relax.

Canyon
02-26-14, 05:02
Just arrived and will be here until Saturday. If anyone wants to grab a drink and swap stories that would be cool. Always find it funny to be alone at Classic Terminal or Alexis while all these groups of guys are sitting around joking with one another. I use the place like an in / out brothel rather than a place to relax.I'll be in Jakarta from May 3-9. If you're there at that time, let's get together.

OmBule
02-26-14, 18:43
I read Hilo77's very entertaining, inspiring and well-illustrated (!) report about Cherry Spa in Lokasari Plaza and remembered my less-exciting but hopefully interesting trip to Jl. Mangga Besar.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy," would be my advice to the uninitiated."We must be cautious." Of course, I'm joking. There is scum and villainy there, naturally. We bring it along with us. But nothing for the average visitor who has spider-sense to worry about. And, of course, everybody has already been there already because of Hotel Travel.

One recent afternoon, I wanted to check out Bintang Mawar, which, according to old reports on other Indonesian-language boards, was an exciting bopping place open for business around 12 noon and full of working girls and freelancers. I was there previously during a slow night and wanted to know if the daytime scene was different.

It's located on the left on a side street that you will pass if you walk toward Lokasari Plaza on the way from the TransJakarta stop. BM is only 30 meters from the main street, however. Just charge on.

At night, the place looks seedy from the outside. During the day, it looks seedier and rundown. There are a few toothy scraggily parking men out front, directing traffic for Bintang Mawar and the dangdut club next door (I forget its name). At night, the sad sign for the Hotel Safari is illuminated. Only some of its letters still function.

Inside it is dark. While the girls sit right by the door, you cannot see them when you enter: Your eyes are adjusting to the low light inside. There looked to be about 15 when I entered. The place is not too big: Maybe 25 tall tables and stools and a wall mounted television that shows pictures of the girls identified by number (although none were wearing visible numbers).

At 12 noon, there were about four other dudes there, all middle-aged Indonesians. None looked too happy. I guess they had their game scowls on. Actually, they were probably just anxious.

The mami made a few minutes of small talk with me and then brought over a girl: A pretty petit 19-year-old from Tasikmalaya with a slim body, long hair, a sweet face and some crooked teeth.

This is what the girl told me about how things worked at BW: They work from about 11 in the morning to 11 at night. There were 15 girls working at the moment, although in the evening there would be about 75 girls (which would make the club full to the point of swelling, if true). The youngest girl was 19, the oldest 28. She had been working in Jakarta for a month (naturally) and would go back home in another three: Apparently, her co-workers were all from the same area and were all recruited here on contract. During their off time, she and the 7 other girls in her nearby dormitory room would watch television.

The girl said that there were indeed bule guests at the Bintang Mawar. People spoke English "little-little", she said. So come on down!

The price was 325, including the room, which was unchanged from the last time I visited. The room, by the way, is accessed by a dark, narrow stairway that leads to a mysterious corridor the ends up in the Hotel Safari next door.

BTW, Hotel Safari, or S-f-ri at night, since some of the neon letters on the sign are burned out, is where the ladies who hang about inside Lokasari Plaza after the sun goes down will offer to take you for short time fun.

Kalau saya tidak salah, because I can't remember clearly from that last trip, the hotel rooms are smaller than a kost, coming with a single bed, a television, a glass-enclosed shower cube and lacking full walls (meaning they stop with about a foot from the ceiling).

What special hell, I wonder, would it be to stay as an overnight guest in the Bintang Mawar.

In the short term, it was fine. There was even a clean, if threadbare, towel.

I think the draw of the place is for middle-class Javanese men who might not get a warm reception at the Chinese-focused Hotel Travel and who are looking for gadis desa.

But no, I didn't feel like repeating the experience this time. I tipped the petit 19-year-old Rp 50.000, tipped the mami Rp 10.000, paid my bill and went on my way. To Kimochi Spa, which deserves a separate report.

Fin

HimKoi
02-27-14, 07:30
When I first drank in TopGun the girls would ask for Rp50 000 LT and 1 US$ was about 2800 RP. I was a combination of 23 years old, niave and stingy so saw no reason to pay. Pentagon bar was over the road where later on the rich girls would be looking for bule meat anyway.

Last year on a trip to Jakarta I realised it was 21 years since I last pulled in TopGun so decided to reward myself a present from there. With low expectations of the quality and the fact that some of the girls were still in residence from 21 years ago (bought them soft drinks) I was actually quite impressed by the quality (about 9pm).

Took out a Sundanese lass, very good manners so went to a Sports bar in Menteng to catch some football. She'd been working hard in the Japanese bars south of the blok m bus station and fancied a change of work venue. No complaints about her service and attention to detail after the match. As she got ready to leave the hotel room I thought shit what's the going rate for this. As I'm now old enough to understand these girls need the money. I offered Rp 600 000 as a guess. She gave me back RP 100 000 and said 1/2 mill was cukup.Hey its my first trip to Jarkata. I read the post and it seems as though that bars are the hunting grounds in the city would you agree? If so what would you recommend. I am there only for a 2 days and want to make the most of it. Thanks for your help

HimKoi
02-27-14, 07:35
Hey all. Am visiting Jarkata for the first time and by reading the post it seems that bars are the best places for mongering. I am only in the city for 2 days and wanted to get advise which areas I should stay because its not fun to be away from the action. Also any recommendation on bars or night clubs. I also read somewhere that one fellow hunter took back a sudanese beauty. Is it a mixed scene in terms of cultural looks. I know I may sound like a fool and I usually do my research but thi strip just sort of popped up in my schedule so would appriciate any help! Thanks all

Mighty Spearsman
02-27-14, 21:14
Hey all. Am visiting Jakarta for the first time and by reading the post it seems that bars are the best places for mongering. I am only in the city for 2 days and wanted to get advise which areas I should stay because its not fun to be away from the action. Also any recommendation on bars or night clubs. I also read somewhere that one fellow hunter took back a sudanese beauty. Is it a mixed scene in terms of cultural looks. I know I may sound like a fool and I usually do my research but this strip just sort of popped up in my schedule so would appreciate any help! Thanks allThe gentleman was with a "Sundanese" beauty (note the letter 'and' after the letter 'you') , not a Sudanese beauty from Sudan in Africa. That refers to the Sundanese people, who inhabit the western part of the island of Java; there are several million Sundanese people although it is not the largest tribal group in Indonesia (the largest by far are the Javanese people who are dominant in the central and eastern parts of Java).

Yes, bars are the easiest place to monger, especially for someone like you who's only here for a couple of days and (presumably) does not speak the local language. No, it's not a mixed scene here in terms of cultural looks, over 90% of the women you could potentially hook up with would be Indonesian.

Hilo77
03-01-14, 02:03
(note the letter 'and' after the letter 'you')I do appreciate the administrator of this site is a stickler for proper grammar and punctuation but the spellchecker he has installed does lead to some really dumb stuff coming up on people's posts, see above. Furthermore the insisted upon space after a comma makes it difficult to properly write out prices given the denominations of the Indonesian currency. The law of unintended consequences strikes again.

By the way did anyone else notice that the net censors blocked this site a day or so ago? It's nice to see it back again, I wonder why they changed their mind.

Menteng
03-02-14, 10:34
By the way did anyone else notice that the net censors blocked this site a day or so ago? It's nice to see it back again, I wonder why they changed their mind.What a coincidence. Even here in Spain, ISG could not be approached.

Indonam
03-03-14, 05:48
=Hilo77; 1536521]One other point is that an Indonesian woman will associate long-term residence in Indonesia and proficiency in the lingo with what they endearingly term a "playboy". They will assume with perhaps some justification that you mastered the language through your wide range of long-haired dictionaries. I know my missus gets automatically suspicious if I use some bahasa expression (God forbid I should use Sundanese, that would be a dead giveaway) or make reference to some local cultural thing or "artis" (and at this point it might be worth warning all you married guys that if you normally converse with your wife in English try not to let slip "Oh iyah sayang, kaya begitu aja!" when she starts performing a particular act of lovemaking, not only will the act end suddenly without fulfillment the chances are you'll be spending the rest of the night on the couch. I know of which I speak).I everytime get that too when speaking bahasa to girls here. However some do appreciate that as you are in their country of host and we would expect the same thing if they were in our country. Also the assumed educated people here are not different then their poor brothers and sisters who pollute the sewages and streets. Saw some rich kids binning some bottles during car free day which I call care free day with all the garbage on a regular Sunday.

Lion55
03-04-14, 00:14
Longtime lurker, first time poster, so forgive any mistakes in abbreviations or style of report.

I recently spent a week in Jakarta with some hobby time available. Not my first visit, but in the past I've always been tied up with business commitments in the evenings. Following recommendations from others on this Board, I got in contact with Jakarta After Dark (JAD) in advance and arranged for a nightlife orientation the evening of my arrival (a Saturday night). Most definitely a good investment! Too bad there aren't similar services available in other cities in Asia. JAD picked me up from my hotel at 8:00pm and after some discussion we decided to work from low-priced end of P2P spectrum upwards. First stop was Travel. The set up has been described in many other posts, so I won't repeat. Went with the recommendation of one of the Mamasans for a 19-yr old from Bandung. 8/10 with thin build and nice figure. Got to the room and started with a shower, wherein she gave nice attention to my cock while I admired her body. On to the bed where things quickly went down hill. She started with a somewhat half-hearted BBBJ which went on for only a couple of minutes. I kissed her neck, which she didn't seem to mind, but also wasn't reacting to. When I tried to move down to her breasts, she pushed my head away; ditto when I tried to move down her stomach towards her pussy. On with the cover and she motioned for mish (her English was limited). I motioned instead for CG. She climbed on reluctantly and slid my cock inside of her. No motion at all from her side as I moved my hips up and down. Pulled out and switched to mish. Again, total starfish action from her. I decided this wasn't going anywhere, so I finished in mish and let her clean me up. I showered and gave her 100K, which was probably more than she deserved. Next stop was Classic. Same routine as Travel, but this time I got really lucky. Based on the experience at Travel as well as advice from several posters on this Forum, I was planning to go with a somewhat older girl this time. However, as I was checking out the girls, a petite thing gave me a huge smile (whereas most of the others looked bored or gave no reaction when I looked at them). Parentheses here to say that while I'm certainly no model or movie star, I'm not bad looking either. Anyway, the girl turned out to be an 18-yr old from Jakarta, named Ainee. Hardly any English, but an infectious smile. She seemed totally excited when JAD called over the Mamasan and told her I wanted to go with this girl. She took my hand and led me to one of the rooms. I ordered a beer for myself and a soda for her (her choice). While waiting for the drinks to come, she started kissing me, which was rather unexpected (but still welcome!). LK quickly moved to DFK, which she was totally into. When the drinks showed up she motioned that we should share the beer. Cool with me. We each took a few swigs and she then pointed to the shower. Once she had undressed, and in particular had taken off her high heels, I realized how tiny she was. I'm 6'1" and she barely came up to my chest. Perfectly rounded little ass and tits with raisin like nipples. She giggled when she saw me admiring her body and grabbed my cock, which was getting hard just at the sight of her. She took her time soaping me up in the shower, paying special attention to my cock, and laughing when I had to bend down so that she could wash my hair. On to the bed and more DFK. She then moved down to an amazing BBBJ. I was about to burst, so I pulled her head up and gently pushed her down on her back and began to lick her neck and then moved down to suck on her nipples. She was soon moaning and squirming. She let out a gasp when I moved down to her pussy, but was soon totally into it, with her hips raised to meet my lips. I put in a finger and she came almost immediately. From the look on her face, I think it was unexpected. She started to lean down for more BBBJ and I swung her around so that we could go with 69, which she again was very much into. After about 10 minutes she pointed to a condom and I nodded OK. On with the cover and she straddled me and slide down my cock. Her pussy was very tight, so I let her control the pace initially. Soon she has bouncing up and down and was moaning and squealing. We moved through several positions, ending with me facing her standing on the side of the bed and her legs (or should I say her feet, as her legs barely reached) on my shoulders. I popped in that position, but kept pumping for a minute or so, as she was bucking her hips to meet my thrusts. After I finally pulled out, she cleaned me up and we finished the beer together. We then lay down on the bed and she put her head on my chest while I caressed her tiny ass. Wasn't too long before I was hard again and she had put on another cover. Again, we went through several positions, including with me standing and holding her (hands under her ass, with she facing me). She was so light that I was able to bounce her up and down on my cock. I'd never done this before, and it was a total turn on. She was moaning and pressing her mouth to my lips. I came again and we lay down on the bed again and began kissing each other all over. Total GFE action. The phone soon rang to signal time up, but I told her I wanted to go on. She gave me a smile of delight and said something in Bhahasa. She then handed me the phone and I confirmed that yes, I wanted to go on, and yes I understood it would cost extra. After about 10 minutes of caressing and kissing, she started another slow BBBJ. I wasn't sure whether I'd be able to go another round, but sure enough, I was soon hard again. On with the cover again and back through a series of positions. This time I tried to finish in K9, but couldn't manage. She seemed worried that I was upset, but I smiled and told her that I was too old for three pops (I didn't say that I'd already dome one earlier at Travel). I doubt whether she understood what I was saying, but nodded OK when I pointed to the shower. We hugged for a while letting the water run over us, and then she cleaned me up. I got dressed while she cleaned up herself and waited for her to dress. I gave her one last long kiss and $200K which elicited a big smile. Told her I'd come see her again, but I wasn't sure that she understood, and by the time I found JAD (I realized that I had totally lost track of time and had forgotten that he was waiting for me) , she had disappeared.

I apologized to JAD, but he said it was cool, and was glad that I'd had a good time. He suggested that we go to either BATS or CJs. After describing the scene at each, I oped for CJs. We took a taxi over, paid the entry, and I bought each of us a beer. He suggested that I walk around and check out the action. Several local ladies caught my eye, and I talked to one from Bali for a few minutes, but decided to move on. I went back over to where JAD was and realized that one of the ladies with whom I'd exchanged glances had followed me over. From her looks, I figured she was probably from Northern or Western China (I lived in Beijing for a few years, so know the looks) ; her face was not SE Asian, and her bust was too big to be local either. Face / body about a 7/10. Turned out she was from Mongolia. We chatted for a bit in Mandarin (I can carry on a basic conversation) and then in English (hers is excellent). She was soon all over me, but I knew that I was pretty well spent for the evening, so that taking her to my hotel would be a waste of $$. I asked her how much for overnight anyhow, just to get an idea of what she was asking. She said 3 million. I said way too high and countered with 1.5 million. She said OK, but just for ST. I told her that I would come back the following Saturday, and that we would talk again.

JAD suggested that we go check out Alexis, but I was at this point pretty exhausted. I'd arrived around noon after 20 hours of travel with very little sleep; plus the fact that Ainee had worn me out. We headed back to my hotel and JAD dropped me off. Like I said earlier, he is a great resource. Not only about the P2P scene in Indonesia, but also about the economics of the business in general, and it was interesting to hear his perspective.

I had business obligations and work to catch up on on Sunday and Monday evenings, so no play those nights. On Wednesday evening, I decided to go back over to Classic. Thanks to JAD, I was pretty clear on the routine, so had not worries about going on my own, despite lack of Bhahasa. I went in and headed to the same area where Ainee's group had been sitting. I didn't see her, but another cute girl from Jakarta came up to me and asked whether I wanted to go with her. I asked if she knew Ainee; she said yes, but that she (Ainee wasn't working that night). Maybe so, or maybe she was with another customer, so I decided to go with this girl instead. Very upbeat girl by the name of Jali. Not as tiny as Ainee, but also short and thin. 6/10 on looks / body, but again a nice GFE experience, although not nearly up to the level of Saturday night. I was certainly satisfied, and gave her $150K tip. She gave me her phone number and asked whether I wanted to call her to come to my hotel another night. I was a bit surprised, as I'd asked JAD about this and he'd told me that the girls from Classic generally aren't allowed to do overnights.

Thursday night I went back to Classic again. I walked in and after about 15 seconds ran into Jali. She gave me a smile and a big hug. But when she saw me looking around, she asked whether I wanted Ainee. I asked whether she was there, and Jali said yes, and called over the Mamasan. I though for a few seconds about doing a threesome, but decided against it. Instead, I gave Jali 50K. She seemed shocked, but soon gave me a big hug and a kiss. I won't repeat details of that night's session with Ainee, but will say that it was almost as good as Saturday night, although this time I only went two rounds. Before I left, I asked her whether she wanted to come to my hotel that coming Saturday night. She siad yes and gave me her phone number, making sure that I put it into my phone correctly.

Friday night I was out of town, but arrived back in Jakarta in the late afternoon on Saturday, which was going to be my last night. I thought seriously about calling Ainee, but then decided that it probably wasn't too smart to show up at my hotel with a waif looking girl who speaks hardly any English. Instead I took a nap until 10:00pm and then headed over to CJs. As soon as I went inside, I ran into the Mongolian girl from the previous visit. She gave me a big hug, telling me that she didn't think I'd be back. I told her that I'd said I would (although frankly I was by no means sure at the time). At this point, I figured that my bargaining position with her was somewhat limited (yes, I know that there were a lot of other women there, but to tell the truth I'd gone back mainly because I did want to fuck her. She again asked for 2. 5 million for all-night but eventually agreed on 1.75 for 2 hours. Headed over to my hotel. Fortunately she was wearing a dress that, while sexy, didn't scream WG, so I was cool walking through the hotel lobby to the elevator. Up to the room and I offered her a drink (I'd skipped this at CJs, as I didn't see a reason to pay their prices when I was pretty sure we'd be heading back to the hotel fairly quickly). What followed was an enjoyable, but not sensational session. Her boobs turned out to be enhanced and she didn't like having them caressed. She did enjoy DATY (which I enjoy performing) and was OK with several different positions when it came time to do the deed. We went two rounds and then showered, and I walked her down to the lobby. I took her phone number, and send her a nice text the next morning, but probably wouldn't repeat with her next time I'm in Jakarta.

For fellow members who might want to try out Ainee (or Jali, as I'd recommend both) , their Mamasan had them situated (at least the week that I was there) , in the right hand corner of the room from where you enter the club, near the door that goes back to the bedrooms on that side. If you happen to spend a session with either of them, treat them well. I expect that you don't find a GFE at Classic every day.

TimTimGuy
03-04-14, 01:32
Longtime lurker, first time poster, so forgive any mistakes in abbreviations or style of report.

*snip* I expect that you don't find a GFE at Classic every day.Good writing and glad you had a great time. TTG

Mighty Spearsman
03-04-14, 02:39
Longtime lurker, first time poster, so forgive any mistakes in abbreviations or style of report.

I recently spent a week in Jakarta with some hobby time available.

Friday night I was out of town, but arrived back in Jakarta in the late afternoon on Saturday, which was going to be my last night. I thought seriously about calling Ainee, but then decided that it probably wasn't too smart to show up at my hotel with a waif looking girl who speaks hardly any English.Quite possibly the best first-time post ever!

I'm also glad to read that you took our advice and used JAD's services, definitely a wise decision. As you pointed out, he can both take you to the right places and can give you inside tips that you'd never figure out as a short-time visitor.

Only one minor point of disagreement. There would not have been any problem with the hotel if you showed up "with a waif looking girl who speaks hardly any English", the only possible problem might have been being seen by a co-worker, but the hotel would not have cared.

Lion55
03-04-14, 04:13
Good writing and glad you had a great time. TTGThanks for the encouragement.

Lion55
03-04-14, 04:14
Quite possibly the best first-time post ever!

I'm also glad to read that you took our advice and used JAD's services, definitely a wise decision. As you pointed out, he can both take you to the right places and can give you inside tips that you'd never figure out as a short-time visitor.

Only one minor point of disagreement. There would not have been any problem with the hotel if you showed up "with a waif looking girl who speaks hardly any English", the only possible problem might have been being seen by a co-worker, but the hotel would not have cared.Yeah, I know that the hotel wouldn't have minded about the girl; it just didn't feel right.

Canyon
03-04-14, 08:10
Lion55,

Are girls at Classic available for takeout and, if so, what is the price?

Fast Eddie 48
03-04-14, 20:25
Lion55,

Are girls at Classic available for takeout and, if so, what is the price?To Canyon.

I ask the Mamasan that a few time they told me no you might want to ask the girl directly if her can come to your hotel on her dayoff, I don't think you want to pay more than one juta for overnighter.

Fast Eddie 48

Medanboy
03-06-14, 00:30
I'm pretty demanding, so I'm willing to pay a bit more, if I really like the girl. One problem with bargaining real hard is that it can result in a lower level of service. If you don't pay her price, you can get a rushed service and of lower quality. I've found that I get much better service if the girl likes me and I'm paying a fair price. Tough bargaining can really spoil the mood. Here is an example of what I would do. .I don't agree that hard bargaining changes the mood. Atleast not in her mind. I tend to notice they are businessminded enough in indonesia not to make it a difference. If she accepts its almost always her price. Good looking seems to influence almost nothing. Being relaxed and smile and showing you are in no hurry seems to get acceptable negotiations. If it all seem to affect her mood it is just a playing card to make you reach for one bill more. How I see it. The bonus idea is interesting though. Thanks for sharing your style, I still haven't found one that works consistent for me.

MasBule
03-06-14, 05:16
She did something that I don't know how it worked. I was on my back. I think her hand was wrapped in a towel. She applied pressure to my ass several times with her knuckles. Along my legs and then putting pressure right there, on the prostate. Wow. Awesome.Yeh I love that outside prostate pressure too. Gives me an instant boner.

Speaking of prostate massage, I know from my time in Singapore a prostate massage can be easily be obtained and seems quite socially acceptable (in massage venues that is. But I don't seem to see any sign of a prostate massage available in Jakarta. Does anyone have any recommendations in Jakarta for this? Any MP's that offer the service?

And / or a good testicle rub is nice too, now I think of it. Now that's an artform when its done right.

Cheers HHM

Member #4410
03-08-14, 04:55
Longtime lurker, first time poster, so forgive any mistakes in abbreviations or style of report.

I recently spent a week in Jakarta with some hobby time available. .Great post. Keep up the good work.

Regards,

Ko

KnightSky
03-11-14, 18:10
Hi,

I will be in Jakarta next week with some prospective corporate clients from Malaysia (aged 50+). Intend to take them out for some entertainment as it is their first time there. This is my rough plan, need some suggestions on places:

On the 1st night approx 1030pm, we will have a short business talk over drinks, before going for one round of play. The place shouldn't be too loud and have too many interruptions from mamasans / girls, but it should be clear to my clients that this is a place to have fun. Also, I will need to pick up the total tab, so payment should be to the establishment rather than directly to the girl (other than tips). Can be something like a spa, but there should be option to remain clothed in case they are conservative and don't feel comfortable enough to jump into a jacuzzi together.

On the 2nd day, we will have a longer business discussion in the late morning, followed by lunch. Prefer to have somewhere private, where we can talk first say for about an hour or 90 minutes, before lunch is served. It should be exclusive and posh.

2nd night, intend to take them to a place where they can pick up girls for the night. I will pay for drinks, but overnight activities will be on their own accounts. From what I read so far, I am probably looking at CJs or BATS, any other choices?

Master Diver II
03-12-14, 10:00
Hi,

I will be in Jakarta next week with some prospective corporate clients from Malaysia (aged 50+). Intend to take them out for some entertainment as it is their first time there. This is my rough plan, need some suggestions on places:

On the 1st night approx 1030pm, we will have a short business talk over drinks, before going for one round of play. The place shouldn't be too loud and have too many interruptions from mamasans / girls, but it should be clear to my clients that this is a place to have fun. Also, I will need to pick up the total tab, so payment should be to the establishment rather than directly to the girl (other than tips). Can be something like a spa, but there should be option to remain clothed in case they are conservative and don't feel comfortable enough to jump into a jacuzzi together.

On the 2nd day, we will have a longer business discussion in the late morning, followed by lunch. Prefer to have somewhere private, where we can talk first say for about an hour or 90 minutes, before lunch is served. It should be exclusive and posh.

2nd night, intend to take them to a place where they can pick up girls for the night. I will pay for drinks, but overnight activities will be on their own accounts. From what I read so far, I am probably looking at CJs or BATS, any other choices?Knightsky,

Had you been a regular poster (as oppose to this being your very first post) I'm sure you would have had a flood of responses by now. I will however try and give some small guidance with whatever little knowledge that I have. You haven't specified any budget so I'm assuming that your corporate entertainment has a rather flexible one. Perhaps you could either look at Alexis on your first night or, alternatively, perhaps a KTV Karaoke. Since you'd have your own room, you would be able to control the noise levels - at least until you all decide to up the fun level. As for your lunch, any of the upmarket hotels could cater to your needs (Ritz Carlton, Mulia, Kempinski, Grand Hyatt etc). It's also pleasant to sit in the Cafe in Plaza Indonesia at almost any time of day and have a discussion over coffee / tea and light food. If you look at CJs or BATS, do get a table booked so your clients have seats. Incidentally, it's easier to talk in BATS, but I tend to think that the way you sit at the low tables on the raised level in CJs lends for a more "endearing" view of the ladies. YMMV.

MD II

Member #4235
03-14-14, 22:30
Guys,

I've booked my trip in after reading many posts here so thank you. Mid April I'll be in Jakarta staying at fx Harris senayan then Kemang icon (I'll write a report specifically about this one as I've seen it talked about here in the hotels thread).

Whatever has been said I like the vibe of Blok M. This time I'd like to try an alternate area. Is there anything up North similar to Blok M where I'd not feel like I stick out like a sore thumb? I'm not into the travel or classic hotel type places and like the idea of a few drinks (as we all do) and getting to know the girls. I prefer low end places so am trying avoid places like BATS.

I'm aware my hotel locations are good for red sq which I've had great fun in the past at and Kemang is not so far from blok m.

I'm 41 yr old Bule with no Bhasa skills.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you

Ps. During my trip I'll write up a report. It's my third time to Jakarta but have only recently been a member here.

Smoothy
03-15-14, 13:10
Guys,

I've booked my trip in after reading many posts here so thank you. Mid April I'll be in Jakarta staying at fx Harris senayan then Kemang icon (I'll write a report specifically about this one as I've seen it talked about here in the hotels thread).

Whatever has been said I like the vibe of Blok M. This time I'd like to try an alternate area. Is there anything up North similar to Blok M where I'd not feel like I stick out like a sore thumb? I'm not into the travel or classic hotel type places and like the idea of a few drinks (as we all do) and getting to know the girls. I prefer low end places so am trying avoid places like BATS.

I'm aware my hotel locations are good for red sq which I've had great fun in the past at and Kemang is not so far from blok m.

I'm 41 yr old Bule with no Bhasa skills.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Ps. During my trip I'll write up a report. It's my third time to Jakarta but have only recently been a member here.North Jakarta is mostly knock shops like Travel, Malioboro, Classic, etc. There are discos like Golden Crown and Stadium, but they aren't really environments conducive to sitting and chatting up a girl. Especially if you don't speak bahasa.

If you are looking for low end places where the girls can speak some English, Blok M is the way to go. However, I find it odd that say you want to avoid high end places like Bats, yet you enjoy Red Square. I don't see a lot of difference between Red Square and Bats. There are a lot of the same girls in those 2 places. I consider Bats, Cjs, Red square, Dragon Fly, Immigrant and all of those type of places to be high end.

Member #4235
03-15-14, 22:20
If you are looking for low end places where the girls can speak some English, Blok M is the way to go. However, I find it odd that say you want to avoid high end places like Bats, yet you enjoy Red Square. I don't see a lot of difference between Red Square and Bats. There are a lot of the same girls in those 2 places. I consider Bats, Cjs, Red square, Dragon Fly, Immigrant and all of those type of places to be high end.Hi Smoothy,

Thanks for the response. I guess in my mind I consider Reds a place to go where I can pick up a non paid girl as I have done on every occassion (granted, it was only 4 times so far!). Out of the places you've mentioned, BATS & CJs I've read here on the forum its mostly (if not all) P4P whereas I found Immigrant and DragonFly to be normal girls which too be honest when I'm in Jakarta and easier options surround me I couldn't be bothered with. Stunner or not, I don't like girls with attitude and avoid them. Red Square seemed to be a nice mix of the two with the last one I took from there I was convinced was a P4P but when I offered her money in the morning literally only wanted the taxi money of 70k to get back to her place. One thing I haven't quite mastered yet is distinguishing the party girls from the hookers at times! Amateur, I know.

But your advice noted. Thank you. I think I'll pop into BATs just to check it out on easter Saturday followed by Reds and always Blok M as a backup.

HappilyMarried

Smoothy
03-16-14, 06:01
I consider Reds a place to go where I can pick up a non paid girl as I have done on every occassion (granted, it was only 4 times so far!).That's almost amazing. Are you spending a fortune on drinks for these girls or something? I've never pulled a chick for free out of red square. You must have more game than me. Given that you pull freebies out of red square, you should try X2, Dragon Fly, Immigrant and Blowfish. (None of those are up north) Bats and Cjs are all hookers (like Blok M).

Member #4537
03-17-14, 06:43
That's almost amazing. Are you spending a fortune on drinks for these girls or something? I've never pulled a chick for free out of red square. You must have more game than me. Given that you pull freebies out of red square, you should try X2, Dragon Fly, Immigrant and Blowfish. (None of those are up north) Bats and Cjs are all hookers (like Blok M).If he can go to Red Square on any given day and pick up "on any occasion" with the girls knowing full well the guy is simply here on holiday (based on the fact he is staying in a hotel) , not a long-term expat, then he must be filthy rich or look like Tom Cruise.

Member #4235
03-17-14, 22:30
If he can go to Red Square on any given day and pick up "on any occasion" with the girls knowing full well the guy is simply here on holiday (based on the fact he is staying in a hotel) , not a long-term expat, then he must be filthy rich or look like Tom Cruise.I'm certainly no Tom Cruise or filthy rich (but I'm not poor). On the occasions I've been there I've been in a small group with a mix of local girls and my ex pat friends. My scores have been with the girl who managed the table reservations there (I won't name her) and a few nights later her friend. The other two were with girls the group befriended on the night. This is why in my initial post I tried to point out the difference between red sq and places like bats due to my experience there. And yes, I still end up paying whether it's in the morning or buying drinks.

MasBule
03-18-14, 04:01
Agree with Smoothy, BlokM is probably at the lower end of the spectrum if you want to communicate in English at ease.

Probably lower than that is Jl Jaksa and Wahid Haysim bars, large bintangs 30k. But its a diverse crowd of expats who been in Asia far too long, hookers, guys from Africa, old ugly girls, PNG alcoholics, drug dealers, ladyboys. Anyway, if your a backpacker at heart its fine.

PS. Bats last week. 1 large beer was 125k (thats inc the tax). Ouch.


North Jakarta is mostly knock shops like Travel, Malioboro, Classic, etc. There are discos like Golden Crown and Stadium, but they aren't really environments conducive to sitting and chatting up a girl. Especially if you don't speak bahasa.

If you are looking for low end places where the girls can speak some English, Blok M is the way to go. However, I find it odd that say you want to avoid high end places like Bats, yet you enjoy Red Square. I don't see a lot of difference between Red Square and Bats. There are a lot of the same girls in those 2 places. I consider Bats, Cjs, Red square, Dragon Fly, Immigrant and all of those type of places to be high end.

Canyon
03-19-14, 05:03
Hi,

I will be in Jakarta next week with some prospective corporate clients from Malaysia (aged 50+). Intend to take them out for some entertainment as it is their first time there. This is my rough plan, need some suggestions on places:

On the 1st night approx 1030pm, we will have a short business talk over drinks, before going for one round of play. The place shouldn't be too loud and have too many interruptions from mamasans / girls, but it should be clear to my clients that this is a place to have fun. Also, I will need to pick up the total tab, so payment should be to the establishment rather than directly to the girl (other than tips). Can be something like a spa, but there should be option to remain clothed in case they are conservative and don't feel comfortable enough to jump into a jacuzzi together.

On the 2nd day, we will have a longer business discussion in the late morning, followed by lunch. Prefer to have somewhere private, where we can talk first say for about an hour or 90 minutes, before lunch is served. It should be exclusive and posh.

2nd night, intend to take them to a place where they can pick up girls for the night. I will pay for drinks, but overnight activities will be on their own accounts. From what I read so far, I am probably looking at CJs or BATS, any other choices?KnightSky.

My advice for the first night where you pay is to go to Hotel Alexis. You can sit around a table and talk, as it's fairly quiet. The girls are in the background. Different groups of girls sit together by nationality: Chinese, Vietnamese, Indonesian, etc. Your clients can remain dressed and talk and drink or they can go to the room with a girl if they like. You can also ask for a line-up of the girls to come to your table. For the night on their own, BATS is the best, but the music is too loud to talk, so go there when you're ready to pick. They also have a lounge at the Shangri-La Hotel where you can talk before going to BATS.

Smoothy
03-19-14, 13:17
I'm certainly no Tom Cruise or filthy rich (but I'm not poor). On the occasions I've been there I've been in a small group with a mix of local girls and my ex pat friends. My scores have been with the girl who managed the table reservations there (I won't name her) and a few nights later her friend. The other two were with girls the group befriended on the night. This is why in my initial post I tried to point out the difference between red sq and places like bats due to my experience there. And yes, I still end up paying whether it's in the morning or buying drinks.If you have a group of expat friends who regularly book a table at red square buying bottles of alcohol and are well known there, that's a big advantage. Especially if they have local girlfriends and are known to treat those girls "royally". In that case, the girls will see you as a prime target since you are their friend. That's a big difference between going there alone and milking a beer all night.

Another place that isn't too bad is the bar at the JW Marriott. Sometimes that place has nice girls out for a good time and it's normally fairly crowded on the weekend and ladies night after 11pm.

McMaiden
03-27-14, 12:36
My experience in Red Square is that its mostly a hooker joint. If you want normal girls, rarely do you find them there.

I travel atleast 15 times a year for work in Jakarta and hit BATS every night (easy and safe). Glad to report that over-nighters are always available at 1mn. No need to pay over that. Only once have I spent 1. 5mn but that was for a university party girl. And I NEVER choose the older / fat ones.

Was there 2 weeks back and did the usual rounds of the club. One petite hot girl in a red dress was the one who attracted me. She wanted 2 mn. No way.

More rounds at around 1 AM, asked her what she wanted to do. Offered her 1 mn and off we went to my room. Good sex. Speaks great English and had a French boy-friend. She had said that she was from Bali but now said that she is from the very east of Java. Don't remember the name.

Good figure with nice small tits and good performance. Only problem was that she did not perform in the morning. She said that I did not ask for it in the club. My fault! Anyway, since it was not agreed, off she went.

Once again. 1 mn for a reasonably good looking girl is the max you should pat at BATS. I have pulled for even 600K. I am not the price police (I hate that) and if you are happy to spend a couple of mill, then that's your choice.

Cheers,

McM.

P. S. Why is the board so quiet

Freque
03-28-14, 06:39
Hi,

I will be visiting Jakarta next month. I wanted t know if Hotel Santika Taman Mini is a Girl friendly hotel. Is jakarta similar to pataya where you can take the girl straight to your room without informing anyone or do you have to inform the front desk about it. Also can anyone suggest a nice place to find girls in that area.

Cheers

Mighty Spearsman
03-28-14, 14:41
Hi,

I will be visiting Jakarta next month. I wanted to know if Hotel Santika Taman Mini is a Girl friendly hotel. Is Jakarta similar to Pattaya where you can take the girl straight to your room without informing anyone or do you have to inform the front desk about it. Also can anyone suggest a nice place to find girls in that area.

CheersRTFF and you'll quickly learn that virtually every hotel in Jakarta is girl-friendly, no need to inform the front desk about anything.

A nice place to find girls in that area? Unfortunately, your hotel is not located close to any of the best mongering spots. The classic pick-up spots (Red Square, CJ's at Hotel Mulia, BATS at the Hotel Shangri-La) are all quite a distance from the Taman Mini area. There are a lot of bars and clubs in the Kemang area, which is a bit closer, but still a decent taxi ride away.

You're a long, long way away from the places in the northern part of town, such as Hotel Alexis, Hotel Travel, Hotel Classic, Malioboro, plus Kartika Spa, Berlian Spa, the Stadium Night Club (risky!) , etc.

Don't underestimate Jakarta traffic. You could be in a taxi cab for an hour or more each way, depending on what time of day you're travelling.

Just curious. Why did you pick this hotel? It's obviously close to the well-known tourist attraction Taman Mini Indonesia, but it's nowhere near downtown. It's on the way to Bogor, if you have business there.

Freque
03-28-14, 20:59
RTFF and you'll quickly learn that virtually every hotel in Jakarta is girl-friendly, no need to inform the front desk about anything.

A nice place to find girls in that area? Unfortunately, your hotel is not located close to any of the best mongering spots. The classic pick-up spots (Red Square, CJ's at Hotel Mulia, BATS at the Hotel Shangri-La) are all quite a distance from the Taman Mini area. There are a lot of bars and clubs in the Kemang area, which is a bit closer, but still a decent taxi ride away.

You're a long, long way away from the places in the northern part of town, such as Hotel Alexis, Hotel Travel, Hotel Classic, Malioboro, plus Kartika Spa, Berlian Spa, the Stadium Night Club (risky!) , etc.

Don't underestimate Jakarta traffic. You could be in a taxi cab for an hour or more each way, depending on what time of day you're travelling.

Just curious. Why did you pick this hotel? It's obviously close to the well-known tourist attraction Taman Mini Indonesia, but it's nowhere near downtown. It's on the way to Bogor, if you have business there.Hi Mighty Spearsman,

Actually my client had suggested that place. His office is in Bogor and I would have to go Bogor everyday. Any suggestion about where or which hotel I should stay so that I could easily travel to the office and enjoy the evening also. I guess I am asking for too much but can't help as I am new to this place.

MasBule
03-29-14, 02:14
Hi Mighty Spearsman,

Actually my client had suggested that place. His office is in Bogor and I would have to go Bogor everyday. Any suggestion about where or which hotel I should stay so that I could easily travel to the office and enjoy the evening also. I guess I am asking for too much but can't help as I am new to this place.Possibly hotels in Kemang could work for you. Yes you will need to add a little bit more for the commute to Bogor. But you have choice of Kemang bars / pubs and also being close to BlokM.

As Spearsman said. Taman Mini / Halim area has nothing going on and will add a decent commute to the popular bars you mention, and a very long way from Nth Jakarta.

Dogend
03-29-14, 13:56
I have a question for those here in the republic for the long-haul: Do you find it better to tone up or tone down your local savvy when playing the game?

I have some profiles on social networking sites where I completed the "about me" section in Indonesian (although my Indonesian is meh, maybe). And I've noticed that since I've done that, I've got less replies. Or more Zzzzz nicey-nice girl replies.

Similarly, I wear batik, which goes over well professionally. And I think that the ladies go huh, om bule, and walk on by.

It's like I'm too local, with all of the negative things that that implies. When I wear Western dress, it feels different.

So I am thinking: I should tone down the localness, maybe pretend to be passing through. Simplify the social media profile with only a dash of local language and bust out the Sundanese, gaul and Javanese (mongo!) later.

I wonder how long-haul residents have changed their game over the long haul. And I wonder if it is just me getting to reflective and melancholy as I get older.

PS Thank you to the members like Hilo77 and AsianRain, who had kind words about my last report. And thanks everyone for the information on the board.As someone who's spent a total of over 3 years in Indonesia, just passing thru, I don't see any need to tone anything down. Speaking the language has a lot of advantages. There are plenty of girls with very poor or non-existent English who tag along with friends who do speak English. If they can't find someone who wants 2 girls they're left out in the cold. When they find someone who speaks Indonesian they're delighted (even if, like me, you're not that far off hitting the big 60. Though, thank god, Asian girls don't seem to have cottoned on to the fact that a lot of grey hair is an indication that senility is not so far away). They're generally not as demanding and don't have the airs and graces of some of the English speakers who think that you're demeaning them if you offer a normal rate or refuse to buy them a juta rupiah dress. If you come across 2 of them together they'll probably be happy to go together for just a little more than the cost of one on her own (had 2 for 600 000 recently). I also wear a fair amount of batik (Western clothes are just too hot when you've recently come from a much colder place) and have never had any negative reaction from it. To them you're just a bule wearing batik. I wear whatever I want, even to business meetings, and it doesn't make a scrap of difference. Once ate Padang in a company boardroom pake tangan. Firstly, they were relieved that I wasn't a fussy bule who needed to be taken to a western restaurant, and they were tickled pink that the bule was eating pake tangan while they were all eating pake sendok.

Ceegee
03-31-14, 08:38
I am looking for some information for a horny little female friend of mine. We were talking about me going to ++ massage places, and she asked me where she could go to get a similar service. I have no idea, and while it might be a long shot asking here, who knows what you fellow mongers might know.

Anybody have any insight as to where the females in this city go to get some naughty massage service?

Smoothy
03-31-14, 10:39
I am looking for some information for a horny little female friend of mine. We were talking about me going to ++ massage places, and she asked me where she could go to get a similar service. I have no idea, and while it might be a long shot asking here, who knows what you fellow mongers might know.

Anybody have any insight as to where the females in this city go to get some naughty massage service?A massage place to service women? I don't think there is such a place like that in town. However, if you really want your girlfriend to get drilled by some massage guy, you could go to Red Square or Sun City and ask one of the sexy dancer chicks there for a phone number of one of the male dancers who also duals as a gigolo. I'm sure he would be happy to come to your place and massage and screw your girl for a fee if you want. Another way to find those kind of guys is the personal trainers in the gyms around town. Many of those guys work as strippers for parties and ultimately gigolos if the ladies slip them an extra tip. I know this because I used to date some of the sexy dancer chicks over the years and have talked to some of those guys and listened to their stories, not because I have ever paid them to screw my girlfriends.

Mighty Spearsman
03-31-14, 14:20
I am looking for some information for a horny little female friend of mine. We were talking about me going to ++ massage places, and she asked me where she could go to get a similar service. I have no idea, and while it might be a long shot asking here, who knows what you fellow mongers might know.

Anybody have any insight as to where the females in this city go to get some naughty massage service?Are you looking for your girlfriend to get ++ service from a guy or another girl? If you're looking for your girlfriend to enjoy some girl-on-girl action, several spas, such as Maribaya, have a couple of truly bisexual girls working there. Some of the girls working the night club scene may also be bisexual (or lesbians who are just trying to make money).

Esteemed Senior Member Smoothy has some good suggestions. Another option is to contact Jakarta After Dark (JAD) ; if any one knows the answer to your question, it will be him. JAD is an advertiser and long-time member of this board (his member name is "Jkt After Dark 2"); go to the Classified Ads section and go to the "last" (earliest) posts and you'll find his contact info.

Good luck! And I look forward to reading a post from you if you have any success.

Ceegee
03-31-14, 23:00
Thanks Smoothy and Spearsman for the responses.

Good point on the male or female MS, I did not think of that, I will find out and it could go either way with her, she is into pretty much everything.

So there would be no issues taking her into a place like Maribaya? That could be kind of fun.

I will definitely report back if anything happens. Not sure how far this will go, she says she is from an important respectable family and does not like to be seen entering or leaving hotels with me which is an interesting role reversal.

Narrah
04-01-14, 02:16
For fellow members who might want to try out Ainee (or Jali, as I'd recommend both) , their Mamasan had them situated (at least the week that I was there) , in the right hand corner of the room from where you enter the club, near the door that goes back to the bedrooms on that side. If you happen to spend a session with either of them, treat them well. I expect that you don't find a GFE at Classic every day.If I remember right, Classic has 3 levels (basement, level 2 and level 5). Which level was this? Planning to visit later this week.

Master Diver II
04-01-14, 03:34
I am looking for some information for a horny little female friend of mine. We were talking about me going to ++ massage places, and she asked me where she could go to get a similar service. I have no idea, and while it might be a long shot asking here, who knows what you fellow mongers might know.

Anybody have any insight as to where the females in this city go to get some naughty massage service?
Thanks Smoothy and Spearsman for the responses.

Good point on the male or female MS, I did not think of that, I will find out and it could go either way with her, she is into pretty much everything.

So there would be no issues taking her into a place like Maribaya? That could be kind of fun.

I will definitely report back if anything happens. Not sure how far this will go, she says she is from an important respectable family and does not like to be seen entering or leaving hotels with me which is an interesting role reversal.It sounds like your friend is looking for good discreet fun. I'm sure there are several members willing to go the extra mile and provide a massage:p - or perhaps she was hinting for you to give her a massage?;)

I can understand the issue of entering hotels and a major issue is that she doesn't want to be seen by people she may know. You need to look at what hotel you go to and who frequents that hotel. It becomes much more difficult if she has a high profile. That's where alternative entrances make a difference. Eg Citadines can be entered through the rumah sakit; Akmani can be accessed directly from the car park avoiding the reception area; Ritz Carlton through Pacific Place; Harris through FX; Hyatt and Kempinski similarly through their respective shopping malls. I've run through this kind of problem many times and there's always a solution. Of course, I've also had the old baseball cap and big sunglasses routine too:D.

MD II

Freque
04-01-14, 18:06
Possibly hotels in Kemang could work for you. Yes you will need to add a little bit more for the commute to Bogor. But you have choice of Kemang bars / pubs and also being close to BlokM.

As Spearsman said. Taman Mini / Halim area has nothing going on and will add a decent commute to the popular bars you mention, and a very long way from Nth Jakarta.Hi,

How good is Fav hotel and can you suggest a good place in a walkable distance around Fav hotel where I can find some good girls to pickup.

Cheers

Narrah
04-02-14, 01:32
Hi,

How good is Fav hotel and can you suggest a good place in a walkable distance around Fav hotel where I can find some good girls to pickup.

CheersWhich Fave hotel are you referring to? Their website lists 9 of them.

Lower priced, clean, but nothing fancy.

The fave hotels at Glodok and Pasar Baru are near the North Jakarta monger area (Alexis, Malioboro, Travel, Classic close by).

Fave hotel at Melawai very near the Blok M area; Fave at Kemang and Gatot Subroto not too far off. The Senayan area (Red Square etc.) also not too far.

Personally, I prefer to pick up bad girls. Good girls don't want to be picked up.

SailSingapore
04-02-14, 02:42
Hi,

How good is Fav hotel and can you suggest a good place in a walkable distance around Fav hotel where I can find some good girls to pickup.

CheersFaveHotel Pasar Baru is excellent value for money. Neat & clean.

About a 15 minute walk from the great Classic Hotel (3 floors of working girls).

Master Diver II
04-02-14, 04:35
FaveHotel Pasar Baru is excellent value for money. Neat & clean.

About a 15 minute walk from the great Classic Hotel (3 floors of working girls).I think he's referring to Fave Hotel in Kemang.

MD II

Narrah
04-02-14, 05:33
I visited Medika, Classic Spa and Scorpion recently. Here follows a field report.

And then I remembered dangdut.

Oh yeah, my original mission.

III Permata / Skorpion.

FinGreat report. And thanks, brought back memories of times in Jakarta (97-2002) when there were a bunch of interesting dangdut bars. Bintang in Blok M, Pangheghar and Sinagar at the Tebet / Pasar Rumput area, a big bunch on Daan Mogot plus half a dozen at Blora. Most of them seem to have withered away, the last two times in Jakarta I didn't even bother to look around.

From a quick google search looks like the scene is still pretty low key. Will check out Skorpion and the Blora area, also saw one called Istana Dangdut in Angke and one at the Mega Matra Hotel. If anyone knows of others and can recommend, thanks in advance; planning to visit this week + weekend.

Freque
04-02-14, 05:40
I think he's referring to Fave Hotel in Kemang.

MD IIHi Master Diver,

Yes I am asking about the Fave Hotel in Kemang. Hope this would be a good place to find girls around.

Cheers

TimTimGuy
04-02-14, 05:57
Hi,

How good is Fav hotel and can you suggest a good place in a walkable distance around Fav hotel where I can find some good girls to pickup.

CheersHi Freque. There are bars aplenty near that hotel, but I'm not a Kemang expert. You are, however, within a short taxi ride from Blok M. In Jakarta,"short taxi ride" is a relative description, because traffic jams are common. It might, for example, take 45 minutes or more to get from that location (the Fav Hotel) to Blok M (I'm not totally ignorant of Kemang). Also, the street where Fav Hotel is located is one-way, if my memory serves me, and that can add minutes to a return taxi ride. Good luck! TTG

Robert Long
04-02-14, 06:58
Hi Freque. There are bars aplenty near that hotel, but I'm not a Kemang expert. You are, however, within a short taxi ride from Blok M. In Jakarta,"short taxi ride" is a relative description, because traffic jams are common. It might, for example, take 45 minutes or more to get from that location (the Fav Hotel) to Blok M (I'm not totally ignorant of Kemang). Also, the street where Fav Hotel is located is one-way, if my memory serves me, and that can add minutes to a return taxi ride. Good luck! TTGI've had the experience in Jakarta to get a Taxi and it take 20 minutes to get there and over a hour to get back.

RL

Smoothy
04-02-14, 07:45
I've had the experience in Jakarta to get a Taxi and it take 20 minutes to get there and over a hour to get back.

RLDepends on the time of day and which day it is. At 5pm on a Friday, it could take almost 2 hours to get to Blok M from there.

TimTimGuy
04-02-14, 10:39
I post 4 or 5 pictures of knock-out women posing nude, with nary a comment. But mention TRAFFIC in Jakarta and the comments roll out! LOL, that's our fair city.

Lucky 7
04-02-14, 13:48
Has anyone had experience around the National Monument area? I'm visiting next week and think that this may be an alternative haunt to the usual bar scene, or even a daytime excursion. Any insights welcome!

I'll let you know how it goes. Or doesn't if turns nothing up!

Smoothy
04-02-14, 13:51
Appreciated the pics, Timtim. Wasn't that a Maribaya girl you were posting? Wasn't sure why you wouldn't show her face. I wouldn't know who to take at Maribaya just from the body pics.

Narrah
04-02-14, 14:53
I post 4 or 5 pictures of knock-out women posing nude, with nary a comment. But mention TRAFFIC in Jakarta and the comments roll out! LOL, that's our fair city.Nope. Not the city. K O Women are a dime a dozen on this forum. Traffic is unusual.

Member #4410
04-03-14, 00:07
Has anyone had experience around the National Monument area? I'm visiting next week and think that this may be an alternative haunt to the usual bar scene, or even a daytime excursion. Any insights welcome!

I'll let you know how it goes. Or doesn't if turns nothing up!I was once picked up at Taman Fatahillah by a quite attractive and very horny lady.

On the way to my hotel in a taxi she couldn't keep her hands off me. Nice and very satisfying in my room.

Regards,

Ko

Dbuko
04-03-14, 00:46
Has anyone had experience around the National Monument area? I'm visiting next week and think that this may be an alternative haunt to the usual bar scene, or even a daytime excursion. Any insights welcome!

I'll let you know how it goes. Or doesn't if turns nothing up!I'm also going to stay in this area in few months. Due to its central location and relative convenience to the north (Hotel Classic / Terminal) and clubs that aren't too too far (BATS / CJs) at least at night when traffic eases slightly. Wasn't thinking of the location in these terms however, just as a convenient "base" to explore nightlife both to the north and south.

Master Diver II
04-03-14, 11:21
Hi Master Diver,

Yes I am asking about the Fave Hotel in Kemang. Hope this would be a good place to find girls around.

CheersKemang has mainly normal bars barring maybe Eastern Promise (I'm not sure I got the name right) which a friend told me might have possibilities. OTOH if you're in the dating scene, it's quite often easier to meet up with the girls in Kemang. Food abounds within walking distance, and the alcohol is a lot cheaper than the hotel bars by a country mile. If you're younger and decent looking, you can do well in Kemang. Otherwise Blok M isn't far but as the others said, it does depend on the time of day. Of course since the Blok M bars only really get started very late (go well after 11pm IMHO) I don't think you'll get hit with the traffic quite so badly unless it gets flooded. Since you're going to be having work in Bogor, I guess you'll be used to sitting in a taxi for a long time. For massage places, there are a range of massage places in Grand Wijaya (not far from Blok M either) which cater to a variety of massage and "other needs".

MD II

UsPete
04-03-14, 13:05
Hi Master Diver,

Yes I am asking about the Fave Hotel in Kemang. Hope this would be a good place to find girls around.

CheersFreque,

I have regular meetings in Bogor and I always use them as an excuse to stay in Kota or Pasar Baru (Gambir Station). The reason being is that there are very good air conditioned trains up to 4 per hour at these stations that run to Bogor Station in just over an hour without traffic jams. Most of the action is around these rail stations in the Centre and North of Jakarta.

You'll get a flavour of Jakarta around Kota, whereas Kemang has turned itself into a pretty mundane stockbroker belt type suburb. If you were attracted to the Fave Kemang because of the roof-top pool. It's soaked in chlorine. But having aired my thoughts. Girls can be found anywhere in Jakarta as I recently picked one up on her way home from work at the bus stop near that Fave Hotel in Kemang.

Enjoy

Lucky 7
04-04-14, 13:26
I was once picked up at Taman Fatahillah by a quite attractive and very horny lady.

On the way to my hotel in a taxi she couldn't keep her hands off me. Nice and very satisfying in my room.

Regards,

KoWow! You picked up at the History Museum! That's a great way to explore multiple cultural experiences! I'll give the area a go & report back!

Member #4410
04-05-14, 02:04
Kemang has mainly normal bars barring maybe Eastern Promise (I'm not sure I got the name right) which a friend told me might have possibilities. <SNIP

MD IIYou got the name right. Eastern Promise is one of the multiple venues started by Bartele Santema (the well known Bule Gila from Bugils). EP is what you want it to be. It is popular with the straight expat crowd who just want to have a drink and / or a meal with their wife in the front bar and restaurant but I understand that in the rear bar there are serious pick up possibilities in the weekend. I quite like it for just getting pleasantly sloshed once in a while.

Regards,

Ko

Yomama99
04-05-14, 17:31
You got the name right. Eastern Promise is one of the multiple venues started by Bartele Santema (the well known Bule Gila from Bugils). EP is what you want it to be. It is popular with the straight expat crowd who just want to have a drink and / or a meal with their wife in the front bar and restaurant but I understand that in the rear bar there are serious pick up possibilities in the weekend. I quite like it for just getting pleasantly sloshed once in a while.

Regards,

KoYou're right, on weekdays, it is a straight expat restaurant and bar. No local girls waiting to be picked up. In fact, if you don't have a drinking buddy, its pretty boring on a weekday. On weekends with the live music, it can be a blast.

Yomama99
04-05-14, 17:51
Went to Millenium Disco at 11 pm. Rp 50K cover which includes a bottle of water. The place was quite empty. As I walked in looking a little lost as it was my first time, two girls came up to me and asked me my name. Since I was alone, I chatted with them and bought them drinks. Quite pleasant and fun chatting with one on each side and cuddling. Then one girl asked me for Rp400K to buy extacy for all of us. They said we could party all night. This was a real turn off. I am not into drugs, and would never consider it in a new place in a foreign city. I tried to dissuade them but they were persistent. Told them I was more into cewek than drugs and they suggested we could go to my hotel first then party all night. By this time, I was turned off. Realizing I was not going back with them, they said they would find me another girl of my choice. It was getting late and I had a flight the next day so I ditched them and went back to my hotel.

The place is interesting and my impression it would be easy to pick up wild girls who are looking for a party. I don't think they are working girls like in Top Gun in Blok M but more just out for a good time. I will probably go back but better to go when you can start at 1 am or so.

Joel Goodsen
04-06-14, 14:56
You're right, on weekdays, it is a straight expat restaurant and bar. No local girls waiting to be picked up. In fact, if you don't have a drinking buddy, its pretty boring on a weekday. On weekends with the live music, it can be a blast.It has been be picking up as a venue recently. Last Wednesday staying late, there where some hot looking, available Cewek (girls) in the front bar and it felt a bit like the blok M bars. But on weekdays, yes, pick-up possibilities are quite limited and where the blok M bars are a sure bet for pulling girls, Eastern Promise is not. The rear bar opens on weekends when there are live bands, available ayam tends to be slightly older (35 plus).

I have seen the pointed out girls in front of Fave hotel, but I think they are only there sporadically, hardly ever. Lone girls trying there luck in hunting tourist bule. If there's one, they sometimes sit at that little warung opposite the hotel's main entrance. "kemang pizza pasta" (if I remember the name correctly) offering massage around 9-10pm.

Mighty Spearsman
04-06-14, 16:35
Went to Millenium Disco at 11 pm. Rp 50K cover which includes a bottle of water. The place was quite empty. As I walked in looking a little lost as it was my first time, two girls came up to me and asked me my name. Since I was alone, I chatted with them and bought them drinks. Quite pleasant and fun chatting with one on each side and cuddling. Then one girl asked me for Rp400K to buy extacy for all of us. They said we could party all night. This was a real turn off. I am not into drugs, and would never consider it in a new place in a foreign city. I tried to dissuade them but they were persistent. Told them I was more into cewek than drugs and they suggested we could go to my hotel first then party all night. By this time, I was turned off. Realizing I was not going back with them, they said they would find me another girl of my choice. It was getting late and I had a flight the next day so I ditched them and went back to my hotel.

The place is interesting and my impression it would be easy to pick up wild girls who are looking for a party. I don't think they are working girls like in Top Gun in Blok M but more just out for a good time. I will probably go back but better to go when you can start at 1 am or so.Smart move! The potential for bad things happening would have risen exponentially if you had given them money to buy extacy / extasy. As a stranger in a foreign city, it's just not worth the risk.

Yomama99
04-07-14, 04:04
Went to Malio club last week while in Jakarta. Entry fee around Rp 160K which does not include any drinks. Sat myself by the stage and watched the show. Two skimp clothed girls came up to me and asked me to buy them drinks. Each drink costs Rp 50K and you have to buy two. The drinks are just shot glasses with soda in them. Before I could say no. They had their drinks and were sitting on my lap. Can't say I objected as they were very cute. The stage girls were stunners. 9 and 10s. It was all it was reported to be with topless and briefs episodes of full topless and bottomless. The girls were so beautiful and had great bodies. Music was pretty good too. Girl DJs and the music was not too loud. The scene was pretty upscale. Lots of people on the Friday night. All the girls are employed by the club. No FLs. And you can't take girls out by paying a bar fine.

Few more girls came by and asked for drinks. I am a sucker. What can I say? It was worth it. After a couple of hours, I had racked up Rp 500K and decided I better leave. It was worth it. Few beers, nice show, and good music.

Michelangelo
04-08-14, 16:09
Just came out of Hotel Travel which I last visited about two years ago.

Not many customers when I arrived. 5 or 6 groups of of about 15 girls in each group sitting on the left side as you come in. Mixed groups of big, small, good looking and so so girls. A good selection for everybody's taste.

Mamasans are very pushy and it did not take more than 30 seconds after I walked in that one of the mamas already pushed a girl to me saying that she speaks good English. Did I come to Travel to have a great conversation on English? Anyway, she was kind enough and smiling, rather on the heavy side and willing to chat, which I did for a couple of minutes before sending er back. Not my taste.

Walked around to look at the display, but the pushy mama kept sending me one after the other. With finally a good looking slim girl was brought forward. A good 8 in the looks and friendly with enough of basic English to have some small talk. Paid her a drink and she asked whether she could bring her friend to a 3some. I am not really into that, but then I thought why not and off she went to get her friend. Surprise, surprise. Even better looking and a solid 9 in the looks. Paid her a drink as well and we sat together on a sofa to warm up a bit. And what was going to come looked promising.

Indeed, they did not disappoint. Perfect bodies, willing to please, fun to be with. The "friend" actually seemed to be rather new to the business and was a bit directed by the other one. Started with the one I picked, took her in different positions, but somehow it did not really click. Switched to the "friend" and she was really into it and seemed to enjoy being f. The in different positions. Ended up in a long doggy and when the deed was done, she said "very good mister".

Definitely a recommended duo for a nice 3some.

Names: Cipa and Diana, first group on the left side as you walk in. Damage 525. 000 for the pair + drinks and well deserved tips.

Would definitely look out for them if I return to Travel.

Fast Eddie 48
04-08-14, 23:07
went to millenium disco at 11 pm. rp 50k cover which includes a bottle of water. the place was quite empty. as i walked in looking a little lost as it was my first time, two girls came up to me and asked me my name. since i was alone, i chatted with them and bought them drinks. quite pleasant and fun chatting with one on each side and cuddling. then one girl asked me for rp400k to buy extacy for all of us. they said we could party all night. this was a real turn off. i am not into drugs, and would never consider it in a new place in a foreign city. i tried to dissuade them but they were persistent. told them i was more into cewek than drugs and they suggested we could go to my hotel first then party all night. by this time, i was turned off. realizing i was not going back with them, they said they would find me another girl of my choice. it was getting late and i had a flight the next day so i ditched them and went back to my hotel.

the place is interesting and my impression it would be easy to pick up wild girls who are looking for a party. i don't think they are working girls like in top gun in blok m but more just out for a good time. i will probably go back but better to go when you can start at 1 am or so.to yomama.

the disco in jarkata don't get going until after midnight most girl ask you for money for drug and you don't see them again, i like royal crown at glodok and millie at lokasri plaza for pick up girl at the stadium are mostly **** and on drugs.

fast eddie 48

Fast Eddie 48
04-08-14, 23:13
Went to Malio club last week while in Jakarta. Entry fee around Rp 160K which does not include any drinks. Sat myself by the stage and watched the show. Two skimp clothed girls came up to me and asked me to buy them drinks. Each drink costs Rp 50K and you have to buy two. The drinks are just shot glasses with soda in them. Before I could say no. They had their drinks and were sitting on my lap. Can't say I objected as they were very cute. The stage girls were stunners. 9 and 10s. It was all it was reported to be with topless and briefs episodes of full topless and bottomless. The girls were so beautiful and had great bodies. Music was pretty good too. Girl DJs and the music was not too loud. The scene was pretty upscale. Lots of people on the Friday night. All the girls are employed by the club. No FLs. And you can't take girls out by paying a bar fine.

Few more girls came by and asked for drinks. I am a sucker. What can I say? It was worth it. After a couple of hours, I had racked up Rp 500K and decided I better leave. It was worth it. Few beers, nice show, and good music.To Yomama.

The Maliboro club is a rip off now with the new entry fee for 500k you can go to Hotel travel, hotel classic and most brothel in Panjay get FS for 350k.

Fast Eddie 48

Member #4537
04-09-14, 02:35
To Yomama.

The Maliboro club is a rip off now with the new entry fee for 500k you can go to Hotel travel, hotel classic and most brothel in Panjay get FS for 350k.

Fast Eddie 48Looks like you're the one getting ripped off. None of the Panjay places are 350k and Malioboro never imposed a 500k entry fee.

Offshore Swell
04-09-14, 14:13
Looks like you're the one getting ripped off. None of the Panjay places are 350k and Malioboro never imposed a 500k entry fee.Am never quite sure if FE48 is a real person, a highly trained parrot that has learned to write or is just some automated computer sitting in a back room somwhere programmed to randomly regurgitate bland sentences that everybody knows already.

Come on FE48, tell us all some wild story about some real pussy that you bonked. Maybe really get really funky and post a photo. Or is it all just the secret life of Walter Mitty?

OS

MarkIII
04-09-14, 18:47
Am never quite sure if FE48 is a real person, a highly trained parrot that has learned to write or is just some automated computer sitting in a back room somwhere programmed to randomly regurgitate bland sentences that everybody knows already.

OSI must admit that his remarks on girls asking money for drugs are spot on. I have been to millennium many times and girls do ask you money to buy drugs. They call it "on", mau on mister (want to get high) and they don't buy it or they're gone. It's a great place to go with a buddy and have a drink. On Saturday evening it is always packed and I never feel not safe even I am the only bule there.

MarkIII

Fast Eddie 48
04-09-14, 20:26
Looks like you're the one getting ripped off. None of the Panjay places are 350k and Malioboro never imposed a 500k entry fee.To EGY.

I never said entry fee is 500k Yomama pay that total amount included drink I know how much the entry fee is do you, read my post again before you make any comment sorry for your lack of knowledge.

Fast Eddie 48

Member #4410
04-10-14, 21:48
Am never quite sure if FE48 is a real person, a highly trained parrot that has learned to write or is just some automated computer sitting in a back room somwhere programmed to randomly regurgitate bland sentences that everybody knows already.

Come on FE48, tell us all some wild story about some real pussy that you bonked. Maybe really get really funky and post a photo. Or is it all just the secret life of Walter Mitty?

OSI agree with you that it is highly doubtful if Eddie has ever left the safety of his keyboard. Zero field reports and zero photos. Just poorly spelled and even more poorly punctuated comments on other members' posts. Maybe it's time for some minimum requirements for members, like a minimum amount of FR's and / or pictures per year (only originals of course). It is equally doubtful whether he understands what you mean by your Walter Mitty comment. "Whoosh" over his head, "Splat" against the wall behind him :-)

Regards,

Ko