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Hilo77
09-06-14, 04:10
I usually adopt the fake-honest approach.

I admit that when I first arrived in Jakarta I was an awful player, but hey come on, It wasn't my fault was it?

You know what they're like in this town, the women throw themselves at the bules, in the gym, the supermarket, on the Busway, it's terrible and well, I admit I gave into temptation and was like a kid in a sweetshop for a year or two. But you know, you soon grow out of all that, you realise that there's more to a relationship than just meaningless sex (yeah right!) and I gave that sort of thing up. I realised I was not only demeaning and disrespecting those poor women, I was demeaning myself too, so I stopped it and now I just like to meet women for their friendship, to enjoy their companionship and if there's a bit more, if there's a spark of passion, well obviously that's fantastic but that's not really what I am looking for these days.

Half an hour later you'll be bouncing the headboard off the hotel bedroom wall.

Never fails.

Smoothy
09-06-14, 07:18
"I'm on Candy Crush level 259. Which level are you on? Unless they ask even one question about Candy Crush then realize I have no idea what that is.

Ceegee
09-08-14, 08:54
Making a quick trip to this fine city later this week, and looks like I will be staying up north in Pluit near Emporium Pluit mall. Never realised just how far north this is, had meetings in the area but never stayed there before.

Any recommendations for some action close to my location? I have read that Alexis is north, I might go RTFF some more and figure out exactly where that is.

MasBule
09-08-14, 09:51
I don't think you will find much in Pluit itself.

But. Your not far from the road Hayum Waruk.

There's lots of massage places located in the Kota area on that street.

Some that spring to mind are;.

Left side from Pluit;.

Illegals, Kartika, Berlian.

Right side from Pluit;.

Malioboro, Sun City.

The list goes on and on, for whose located on that street.

So RTFF on Kota, Hayum Waruk for more info.

As far as recommendation go. Malioboro and Alexis are top shelf. Got to do Alexis 7th floor at least once in your lifetime. Aim to take your beauty into the pool on the rooftop.

Its also has a good resto, and a nude dancers in the bar "foreplay" on the ground floor (similar to Malio at the back of the Malioboro).

HHM.


Making a quick trip to this fine city later this week, and looks like I will be staying up north in Pluit near Emporium Pluit mall. Never realised just how far north this is, had meetings in the area but never stayed there before.

Any recommendations for some action close to my location? I have read that Alexis is north, I might go RTFF some more and figure out exactly where that is.

Smoothy
09-08-14, 10:55
Making a quick trip to this fine city later this week, and looks like I will be staying up north in Pluit near Emporium Pluit mall. Never realised just how far north this is, had meetings in the area but never stayed there before.

Any recommendations for some action close to my location? I have read that Alexis is north, I might go RTFF some more and figure out exactly where that is.Alexis is good.

There are tons of places in Pluit. Anywhere that has local Chinese men will have places for sex. I don't go up there because it's so damn far, but the biggest area in all of Jakarta for prostitution is supposedly in that area somewhere.

I went to Tematik Spa once. You could try that. They had sexy dancers and whatever you wanted there.

Tematik Spa:

Jln Jembatan III Raya No. 35 Jakarta-Utr, Phone: 021-66690566.



This place is supposed to be new and nice, and the girls supposedly dress as Japanese schoolgirls.

Gran Magnolia SPA Pantai Indah Kapuk.
Jalan Pantai Indah Utara 2.
Komplek Ruko Galeri Mediterania no. N8 k + N8 L.
(eks daihatsu dealer) MASUK LEWAT PINTU KEDUA (RUKO MEDIT 2).
Pantai Indah Kapuk-Pluit.
021.5880. 895 (hunting).

My recommendation is ask some of the local Chinese guys up there, they will know where to go.

UsPete
09-08-14, 12:35
i don't think you will find much in pluit itself.hhm,

have you been to pluit apart from zipping along the tol road on the way to the airport?

pluit / pik has dozens of hotels, bar and clubs probably on a par for prices with kelapa gading.

while great clubs like malioboro in gajah maja do the vanilla sex stuff very successfully pluit is more catering for those into fetishes.

highly recommended is:

- the famous thematic spa jl. jembatan tiga no. 35, jakarta utara.

it does "fun games" evenings with the therapists. theme rooms include a back to school library. bondage, cleopatra, beach and a kinky fire station (recommended).

- alternativelly the gran magnolia spa pantai indah kapuk, jalan pantai indah utara 2, komplek ruko galeri mediterania no. n8 k + n8 l has the titilating magno's angels and their costume evenings.

you can actually phone these places, bit like any hotel reception to find what's happening on different nights of the week. when i had a blackberry bbm they sent me a long list of facilities and prices which didn't leave anything to the imagination.

my only word of caution is don't go in the wet season as pluit is prone to terrible flooding.

Acerboy
09-08-14, 19:12
i've not used badoo for mobile but have used it using my laptop. while there are some areas which make it easier if you're a paying member, there is no real impediment as long as you have a bit of patience. there's no charge for messaging and that, to me, is the key function. i met a pa on badoo who was similar to hhm's girl, albeit without the scarf. i recall there were a couple of times she was tempted to shove me in and to hell with the whole virginity status. it must be the effect of my 50th just around the corner to make me reminisce like this.

md ii.looks like i need your guidance oh guru since i have been away for such a long time. i'll be in jakarta next month for pleasure. need to get up to speed & thank god i have you. i'll check out badoo.

thanks bro.

Ceegee
09-09-14, 03:09
Thanks guys, Alexis is on my bucket list, but I figure I can get there pretty much anytime, so have not made it yet.

UsPete, that Thematic Spa sounds like fun, will definitely put that on the todo list.

One of my regular freebies messaged me and said she has been watching some rimming porn movies and wants to practice on me. I have not told her I will be in town yet, as much fun as she is, I like variety so typically see her every 2nd or 3rd trip.

Oh the decisions we have to make in this town.

Smoothy
09-09-14, 05:58
One of my regular freebies messaged me and said she has been watching some rimming porn movies and wants to practice on me.A freebie who rims? I've never heard of such a thing. I'm sure everyone would want that. Please share her contact information with the entire forum.

Ceegee
09-09-14, 07:17
Ummm, no.

I've posted about her before, she is exploring her wild side.

Master Diver II
09-09-14, 08:20
on a different note, and i need advice from those who have been around a bit with non-p4 p's.

when a non-working girl (you know the one you'd happily take out for breakfast the next morning) asks "so how many girls have you been with before me".

i never know what's the correct answer:

welcome any input on my friday afternoon rant?

hhm.


the music is on, the lights are soft, the kissing is hot, her clothes are half on and half off, and she says " so freebie, do you have any other girlfriends".

its the same question as" how many have you had ".

it leaves us scurrying through our brains trying to find an answer that might or might not work.
anyways hopefully you found the right answer. me, i failed miserably with the puny answer of " well i have half a gf, who i see out of habit once a week ". she put her shoes on and left. darnnnnnn.


i like to say something romantic and corny like, "i have been with many girls, but i haven't found the right girl yet. " that works pretty well. never put a number on it because it will never be right.i make it pretty clear on the dating sites that i'm married but still rather naughty. this clears up any likelihood of ending up in a serious relationship. in spite of that, i still have had a few who wanted something more serious (some even offering to be a second wife. i am a muslim). i always make it clear that that is not an option for me (although it is sometimes a great strain saying no). as such, i do come across the question as to if i've met anyone else from the dating site, to which the answer is a few; if they ask if i have any girlfriend, i'd reply that at this moment she's the only one (absolute truth there;)). i don't deflect as that makes the more intelligent ones very alert (i prefer intelligent horny women, but brain no.2 is somewhat less discerning at times:p). if you set the basic situation out for them, there really are no difficult questions. the main problem is that it's so easy to get addicted to some of them.


looks like i need your guidance oh guru since i have been away for such a long time. i'll be in jakarta next month for pleasure. need to get up to speed & thank god i have you. i'll check out badoo.
thanks bro.
acer, you are my mahaguru: i couldn't bring a gf to jakarta to hunt other women together. i bow before your greatness bro. i'll give you a call and we can chat.


a freebie who rims? i've never heard of such a thing. i'm sure everyone would want that. please share her contact information with the entire forum.they are out there smoothy. i remember one who did the lot: anal, rimming, and bisexual to boot. cost of a threesome was two whopper meals from bk for the girls. she didn't need the money, her mum promised her a mini cooper if she got engaged to someone she approved of (this was while she was still in college).

md ii.

Smoothy
09-09-14, 11:49
her mum promised her a Mini Cooper if she got engaged to someone she approved of Unfortunately, that would have disqualified me.

Offshore Swell
09-09-14, 13:44
Jembatan Dua, Opposite Robinson. A small complex, sign says Sehat Gembira. Down the alley between the buildings. Couple of bars with services upstairs. Typical and Jakarta shitbox joint. Iceblocks to make the beer cold. But what the hell, it works for me. Girls all seem to be from Indramayu, which has for a very long time supplied concubines to the emperors courts.

So just consider yourself the emperor and ignore the rats and the trash and the flooding and it all works out just fine.

Hope that helps.

OS.


Making a quick trip to this fine city later this week, and looks like I will be staying up north in Pluit near Emporium Pluit mall. Never realised just how far north this is, had meetings in the area but never stayed there before.

Any recommendations for some action close to my location? I have read that Alexis is north, I might go RTFF some more and figure out exactly where that is.

Menteng
09-09-14, 15:58
A freebie who rims? I've never heard of such a thing. I'm sure everyone would want that. Please share her contact information with the entire forum.Statistically you must find one one of these days. Maybe you should look for it in the group 30 years.

BTW, still no reaction on FB.

Member #4698
09-09-14, 18:23
Day 8, Thursday March 69,2014 Jakarta Day 5:

Sadly, this was my last day in Jakarta so I went cultural in the morning by walking around the National Monument (Monas Tower) and then I visited the National Museum. The National Museum has an enormous collection of Indonesian ethnic costumes, bronze statues, temple carvings and ceramics to name just a few of the many galleries. It is really a worthwhile place to check out. After touring the museum I walked south down Jalan Medan Merdeka Barat, one of the main drags in town, towards Selamat Datang and the high end shopping malls. I was hungry so I was looking for an Asian Fusion restaurant called Social House that I had heard was supposed to be great. It is located in the Grand Indonesia Shopping Mall, but I almost did not make there because I spotted a Carl Jr's in the basement of the same mall. Carl Jr's was tempting, but I wasn't away from the USA long enough to have an urge for an American fast food cheeseburger and I was glad I passed it by. The Social House turned out to be great. I had Korean ribs with hand cut fries and washed it down with a cold beer. Everything was so good and I enjoyed watching the Hi-so eye candy on display in the restaurant as well. A lot of pretty girls were having lunch here. Later I relaxed by the pool.

I had an early morning flight scheduled to Singapore the next day. The Marriott concierge strongly advised me that I should leave the hotel no later than 4:15 am to guarantee my arrival at the airport by 5:15 am which I thought was a little overcautious, but I did not want to take a chance missing my flight, so I decided to make my last night an early one and so I headed back to Alexis one last time. I really regretted not scheduling more time for Jakarta. I would have liked to have seen Aulia again and to have checked out Malio Club as well as a few other bordellos and bars. It will have to wait until next time.

When I arrived at the Alexis I decided to check out the 5th floor (with the Chinese girls and their infamous helicopter ride), but could not get off the elevator because the floor was packed with so many Chinese customers. No problem. I headed up to the 7th floor spa / lounge. I ordered a drink and started talking to Wilda, one of the "Marketing Bathouse" mommies again. Over on the Indonesian side I spotted "NA". She looked so cute and when she saw me, she gave me one of her come hither looks. I knew I had to have her again even though I was sorely tempted by several other Indonesian girls and also by that very pretty Vietnamese girl I was attracted to the night before who was smiling at me again tonight. This was my 3rd trip to Alexis and the girls seemed to be warming up to my recurring appearances. I was getting a lot of smiles and coaxing looks from the Indonesian section. "NA" and I had a drink by the bar and talked a little. I told her I wanted her. Wilda took down my number and "NA" led me down the stairs to a room.

She was so cute and affectionate. She posed us in front of a mirror in the bedroom and suggested that we made a good looking couple. LOL. I had to agree. I would take this girl anywhere and proudly be seen with her in most any company (most). We casually made out and stuff and then we took a soapy shower together. This time the sex was slower and a little more intimate. After our shower I started gently kissing her again and I slowly worked my way down to her pussy taking my time kissing her beautiful small breasts. She giggled as I started licking her pussy. Then after she became lubricated a little, she reciprocated by cat licking me, and we ended up in a 69 position for a long time. Looking up at her pretty little bottom, I could not help but notice that "NA" had the cutest little bum hole. There was a perfect circle around it of darker pigment tan skin color. I placed the tip of my tongue squarely on her little hole. She flinched for a second, but I held her thighs tightly and placed my tongue back on her a little "A" hole. I just left the tip of my tongue there and "NA" became accustomed to it and she resumed smoking me. After a while I noticed that my tongue was slowly entering her without any prodding or pushing on my part. She must have relaxed her sphincter muscle and gravity had taken over. I did not penetrate her very deep; just enough to let her (and myself) know I was there. This of course combined with what "NA" was doing with my prick turned me on a hell of a lot and I almost came in her mouth. So I had to withdraw my tongue from its tender position and take a time out. When I resumed I moved my mouth back under and found her clit. "NA" was sopping wet by the time we finished with the 69. She turned around, gave me a naughty smile, and got on top. Her pussy felt as great as it had the first night and I was really digging my shag with "NA". What a great girl! After a while I gently rolled her over onto her back and we continued in missionary until I came.

After sex we cuddled and kissed. I told "NA" that I was unfortunately leaving Jakarta tomorrow. She acted like she would miss me. I half seriously asked her if she wanted to come with me to Singapore. If she had said yes, I would have taken her. Damn and I think it would have been a gas. But I knew her answer even before I asked the question. She said she had to work and that her shift at Alexis was 3 weeks on and 1 week off. I found this to be an interesting piece of information. I am sure these Spa girls will readily come to a punters hotel or apartment and stay LT or ST on their days off for considerably less money than they cost in Spa once they become comfortable with a customer and he has established a good friendly relationship with them. In this respect, Jakarta could be as good as Bangkok.

I took some very intimate pictures of "NA" which she made me promise never to show anybody, and before I knew it, my time with her was up. We said our goodbyes and kissed in the hallway outside the lounge area and then parted. I ordered a beer and hung around the lounge for a while. The really pretty Vietnamese girl whom I had wanted, but never got around to, gave me a knowing smile. She had seen it all before. All I could do was smile back and tell her, "I wish I had more time, darling. I would have loved shagging you. " She was one of the girls that got away this trip.

After re-doing her make-up, "NA" reappeared back in the lounge and we exchanged knowing glances at each other from time to time. I finished my beer and then waved a goodbye to the lovely girl. I hope I see her again next time.

I arrived back to my hotel around midnight. The night had worked out well. I packed up and slept for a few hours until 3:30 am. Then it was off to the airport. There was no traffic and I slept most of the way.

Summary:

I really liked Jakarta. I think the trip was a huge success, but I did make a few mistakes. Number one mistake was staying in the south part of the Golden Triangle. The JW Marriott is an elegant 5* hotel all the way and the service was impeccable, plus it was all free thanks to my Marriott reward points, but location, location, location. I mean 60 minutes to drive to Alexis! 40 minutes to Malioboro! COME ON! Furthermore, it was a big hassle to go to many of the local restaurants and places of interest again, because of the traffic situation during the daytime. This recurring daily problem really cut down on what I wanted to do and forced me to pretty much hang around the upper class refined Marriott ghetto neighborhood during the hot daylight hours. Next time I will stay further north so I will be more in the thick of things and it will take only 25 minutes max to drive to Alexis and 15 minutes to drive to Malioboro. Late night traffic is not a problem, so it seems to me that if you stay further north it is not a hassle to taxi south to Bats or Blok M at around 11 pm plus further north is more colorful with more local Indo restaurants, markets, and just a lot more to do in the daytime. I am considering the Hotel Alila Jakarta, the Morrissey Hotel, the Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni, and possibly the Borobudur Hotel for next time. They are all reasonably priced hotels, have good reviews on Trip Advisor, have outdoor swimming pools, and most importantly are GF.

My strategy was never to try to visit every worthy nightspot in Jakarta. That would have been impossible in 5 nights. All I really wanted to do was meet and get it on with a few really pretty, high quality, Indonesian girls and have a good time, which I think I accomplished with flying colors. I always planned to start exploring the Jakarta nightlife scene at the top of the food chain and to work my way down as my experiences dictated. Of course I didn't get too far down my list on this trip and that is fine with me. In fact I anticipated that this would probably happen. You know, I have been to Bangkok over 30 times and I know that town pretty well, but I have still not been to all the soapy's or G-Clubs and Discos on my to do list, so every time I return to the big mango, I try to check out at least one new place. That is what I going to try to do on my next visits (plural) to Jakarta. For sure, I will hit Alexis and Malioboro (Malio Club) again and I hope I bump into some old friends. LOL. But, I will also hit at least one new spa / bordello like Hotel Travel, Hotel Classic, Kartika, or Maribaya Massage and see what they are all about. I will also be sure to check out CJ's at the Mulia Hotel and try a couple of the Blok M bars. And if I do all that on the next trip, I would still be leaving out a lot of great places to see for the next time. So what I am saying is I will be returning to Jakarta not one more time, but a many more times in the coming years. It all sounds good to me.

Update:

I was cruising around the internet airline web sights late one night a couple of weeks ago. For some reason the two major carriers servicing South East Asia from my home in South Florida, ie United and Delta, jacked up their round trip rates to South East Asia over 30% from last year which translates into a $400 increase on flights to Manila or Bangkok round trip. Just for the hell of it, I plugged in a round trip flight from Fort Lauderdale to Jakarta on the United Airlines site and guess what? The rate was $1024 round trip coach which was $500 less than essentially the same flight to MNL or BKK so I booked it. I am stoked! My 2015 South East Asia trip will begin and end in Jakarta. The flight is a couple of hours longer than the flight to Manila, but I don't care. I will take some prescription Ambian along for the flight and it won't be too bad. I will land in Jakarta around 11:30 pm an I will be ready to meet some nice girls.

On top of that good news, I have scheduled nearly double the amount of time that I will spend in Jakarta on my second trip, so I am looking forward to having an even better time here the 2nd go round. I also found a low no penalty if cancelled rate with Booking DOT Com at the Morrissey Hotel, so it looks like I am all set.

I don't think there is anything more positive I can say about Jakarta than that I am returning and staying longer than the first visit. To me, Jakarta was like discovering an unknown Asian planet inhabited by beautiful, sexy and charming girls. I found Jakarta girls as pretty as BKK girls and as friendly as Manila girls. And that is saying quite a lot.

Traveler1234
09-09-14, 21:06
I really liked Jakarta. I think the trip was a huge success

But, I will also hit at least one new spa / bordello like Hotel Travel, Hotel Classic, Kartika, or Maribaya Massage and see what they are all about. I will also be sure to check out CJ's at the Mulia Hotel and try a couple of the Blok M bars. And if I do all that on the next trip, I would still be leaving out a lot of great places to see for the next time.

I also found a low no penalty if cancelled rate with Booking DOT Com at the Morrissey Hotel, so it looks like I am all set.
Congrats on great first trip; you've now discovered the best kept secret in SE Asia. ;)

You visited some of the nicer 'higher-end' places and the others will appear a little down market. But still enjoyable. Recommend you learn a little Bahasa before your next trip, the local girls luv bules who speak a little local lingo.

And you will enjoy Morrissey Hotel.

Hilo77
09-10-14, 03:03
i make it pretty clear on the dating sites that i'm married but still rather naughty. this clears up any likelihood of ending up in a serious relationship. in spite of that, i still have had a few who wanted something more serious (some even offering to be a second wife. i am a muslim). i always make it clear that that is not an option for me (although it is sometimes a great strain saying no).
md ii.we appear to have a very similar background and modus operandi. i actually explicitly put on my tinder profile that i'm not looking for anyone serious as i am already well-got and have no intention of changing my status, furthermore i've posted a nice clear picture of myself; a bap-faced bule who won't see his 45th birthday again. result? ping! ping! ping!

i mean wtf? are indonesian women so [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)-ed off with being jerked around by phonies and playboys that they're now targeting the honest-to-god, decent, wholesome married dudes (who are in fact phonies and playboys pretending to be honest-to, oh forget about it, my head's beginning to hurt following all this stuff).

anyway for those who are interested and are in my situation here's what i look for on the online sites, if you've different tastes or have more time, good for you, go your own way this is how i work it and if it's of use to anyone then knock yourself out.

first of all the photo; number one importance, and the more the merrier. she has to be a looker, not stunning but in good shape and kinda respectable looking. for me tattoos are out as that means p4 p (yeah i know i'm a tattoo-phobic bigot, so shoot me) if i want that i'll look elsewhere. next no air-brushed studio photos, it's amazing how many of them are posted, it's like a neon-sign saying "i'm so ugly i had to pay someone to photo-shop my appearance". next the travel photos, no problem with bali or singapore, but too many pictures of her in holland or the us tells me she's wise to the bs (although the very fact she's on tagged, dia or tinder tells you she struck out there, so it could be fun playing with her mind). safest option is the nice clear full-length shot of her at work or the mall. selfies taken in the back of the car wearing sun-glasses tell me nothing other than she's a typical indonesian woman.

next age; simple 25-35. why the arbitrary upper limit? well i have a perfectly beautiful indonesian woman of 36 (give or take, i've never got a direct answer to that question yet) at home i can have for free so why would i bother hunting it outdoors? the lower limit? this all comes down to time, which i'll come back to, there's plenty of 18-25's out there, but let's face it they're going to want to party, stay out late, yadda-yadda, i haven't the time or energy for that so i can't be bothered. the women in my age range are past the party phase, they've got a decent job, they've been messed around in love at least twice and they've had enough of the scene and are looking for a "nice" guy who's got himself a good job and is settled.

third profile; slightly controversial here but it's only my personal choice. key to me is time, it's limited for me. i want one date to lay the essential groundwork (leg), that's a chat and coffee in some nice mall. after that i want to be bouncing the head-board in the next hook-up. if i have to do more than that then i've lucked out. in the first date i get all the leg work done so reading the profile beforehand is essential. i don't want a bored rich girl, i'm not saying i won't score, the probability is that i will but it will be too much time and effort. i'm at a stage in my life where i don't need challenges anymore. i remember dating a lovely chinese divorcee who i met in grand indonesia mall for coffee regularly and who spent the entire afternoons telling me how sick she was of married men who played around, and how she'd never go for that. i took her at her word eventually and quietly dropped her, only to have her contact me a year later asking me why we never made love back then. i've no time for all that.

so i'm leaving out rich girls, girls that express their love for jesus (the come-to-jesus lot are harder to convince than the head-scarf wearers, i don't need the hassle), p4 p girls, party animals etc. what am i left with? the medium hanging fruit. the big fat middle of the bell curve. the twenty-something girl, living in a kos-kosan in town, or with her family in depok, she's got a good job in the city but is bored with her hum-drum life of work, home, work, home, she's had at least two romances that have gone wrong and is now resigned to just having an uncomplicated relationship with a reasonably respectable guy who treats her well, buys her a few nice things, takes her to good bars and restaurants and bangs the hell out of her every other tuesday afternoon just to ease the boredom.

that's my way of doing it, it won't appeal to everyone but i put it out there for what it's worth.

Stykler
09-10-14, 08:15
Natty. I've really enjoyed reading your recent posts.

Well done, and thanks for taking the time.

Styk.

FreebieFan
09-10-14, 08:48
we appear to have a very similar background and modus operandi. i actually explicitly put on my tinder profile that i'm not looking for anyone serious as i am already well-got and have no intention of changing my status, furthermore i've posted a nice clear picture of myself; a bap-faced bule who won't see his 45th birthday again. result? ping! ping! ping!

i mean wtf? are indonesian women so [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)-ed off with being jerked around by phonies and playboys that they're now targeting the honest-to-god, decent, wholesome married dudes (who are in fact phonies and playboys pretending to be honest-to, oh forget about it, my head's beginning to hurt following all this stuff).

anyway for those who are interested and are in my situation here's what i look for on the online sites, if you've different tastes or have more time, good for you, go your own way this is how i work it and if it's of use to anyone then knock yourself out.

first of all the photo; number one importance, and the more the merrier. she has to be a looker, not stunning but in good shape and kinda respectable looking. for me tattoos are out as that means p4 p (yeah i know i'm a tattoo-phobic bigot, so shoot me) if i want that i'll look elsewhere. next no air-brushed studio photos, it's amazing how many of them are posted, it's like a neon-sign saying "i'm so ugly i had to pay someone to photo-shop my appearance". next the travel photos, no problem with bali or singapore, but too many pictures of her in holland or the us tells me she's wise to the bs (although the very fact she's on tagged, dia or tinder tells you she struck out there, so it could be fun playing with her mind). safest option is the nice clear full-length shot of her at work or the mall. selfies taken in the back of the car wearing sun-glasses tell me nothing other than she's a typical indonesian woman.

next age; simple 25-35. why the arbitrary upper limit? well i have a perfectly beautiful indonesian woman of 36 (give or take, i've never got a direct answer to that question yet) at home i can have for free so why would i bother hunting it outdoors? the lower limit? this all comes down to time, which i'll come back to, there's plenty of 18-25's out there, but let's face it they're going to want to party, stay out late, yadda-yadda, i haven't the time or energy for that so i can't be bothered. the women in my age range are past the party phase, they've got a decent job, they've been messed around in love at least twice and they've had enough of the scene and are looking for a "nice" guy who's got himself a good job and is settled.

third profile; slightly controversial here but it's only my personal choice. key to me is time, it's limited for me. i want one date to lay the essential groundwork (leg), that's a chat and coffee in some nice mall. after that i want to be bouncing the head-board in the next hook-up. if i have to do more than that then i've lucked out. in the first date i get all the leg work done so reading the profile beforehand is essential. i don't want a bored rich girl, i'm not saying i won't score, the probability is that i will but it will be too much time and effort. i'm at a stage in my life where i don't need challenges anymore. i remember dating a lovely chinese divorcee who i met in grand indonesia mall for coffee regularly and who spent the entire afternoons telling me how sick she was of married men who played around, and how she'd never go for that. i took her at her word eventually and quietly dropped her, only to have her contact me a year later asking me why we never made love back then. i've no time for all that.

so i'm leaving out rich girls, girls that express their love for jesus (the come-to-jesus lot are harder to convince than the head-scarf wearers, i don't need the hassle), p4 p girls, party animals etc. what am i left with? the medium hanging fruit. the big fat middle of the bell curve. the twenty-something girl, living in a kos-kosan in town, or with her family in depok, she's got a good job in the city but is bored with her hum-drum life of work, home, work, home, she's had at least two romances that have gone wrong and is now resigned to just having an uncomplicated relationship with a reasonably respectable guy who treats her well, buys her a few nice things, takes her to good bars and restaurants and bangs the hell out of her every other tuesday afternoon just to ease the boredom.

that's my way of doing it, it won't appeal to everyone but i put it out there for what it's worth.that was exactly my mo when i lived in a neighbouring country to the north. its truly a workable way of doing things and its really easy to successful within the parameters you so eloquently state. the other thing is that theres a fairly endless supply within your target audience and we all like / need / want some rotation along the way.

Master Diver II
09-10-14, 09:07
i am considering the hotel alila jakarta, the morrissey hotel, the grand mercure jakarta harmoni, and possibly the borobudur hotel for next time. they are all reasonably priced hotels, have good reviews on trip advisor, have outdoor swimming pools, and most importantly are gf.

update:

i also found a low no penalty if cancelled rate with booking dot com at the morrissey hotel, so it looks like i am all set.

i don't think there is anything more positive i can say about jakarta than that i am returning and staying longer than the first visit. to me, jakarta was like discovering an unknown asian planet inhabited by beautiful, sexy and charming girls. i found jakarta girls as pretty as bkk girls and as friendly as manila girls. and that is saying quite a lot.welcome to the club. i'm a confirmed jakarta addict. i've been here over 100 times and still feel like i'm scratching the surface. i wish i'd discovered this place in my mid twenties, not my late thirties. as traveler said, you will enjoy morrisey (one of my favourite places) as it's pretty convenient in many respects. i always find a need to keep large bottles of water and juice in my room and appreciate the small fridge that's there instead of a mini bar. the only thing is that they don't have taxis waiting there, although there doesn't seem to be much wasted time waiting as the road is frequented by taxis that they'll hail for you. they will target bluebirds unless you tell them otherwise. i normally tell them, bluebird, express, gamya or taxiku are fine. there's also plenty of food and potential meeting locations nearby if you're going to get together with a date. the rooms are minimalist in design but very functional. the shower area is big enough for two. all hotels short of syariah hotels are girl friendly but take note that you do need a card to get up the lift. borubudor is a bit tired and i didn't like alila (although it is closer to alexis and malioboro). i haven't stayed at mecure before.


we appear to have a very similar background and modus operandi. i actually explicitly put on my tinder profile that i'm not looking for anyone serious as i am already well-got and have no intention of changing my status, furthermore i've posted a nice clear picture of myself; a bap-faced bule who won't see his 45th birthday again. result? ping! ping! ping!

i mean wtf? are indonesian women so [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)-ed off with being jerked around by phonies and playboys that they're now targeting the honest-to-god, decent, wholesome married dudes (who are in fact phonies and playboys pretending to be honest-to, oh forget about it, my head's beginning to hurt following all this stuff).

so i'm leaving out rich girls, girls that express their love for jesus (the come-to-jesus lot are harder to convince than the head-scarf wearers, i don't need the hassle), p4 p girls, party animals etc. what am i left with? the medium hanging fruit. the big fat middle of the bell curve. the twenty-something girl, living in a kos-kosan in town, or with her family in depok, she's got a good job in the city but is bored with her hum-drum life of work, home, work, home, she's had at least two romances that have gone wrong and is now resigned to just having an uncomplicated relationship with a reasonably respectable guy who treats her well, buys her a few nice things, takes her to good bars and restaurants and bangs the hell out of her every other tuesday afternoon just to ease the boredom.

that's my way of doing it, it won't appeal to everyone but i put it out there for what it's worth.mate, we do indeed have a similar mo with perhaps some subtle differences. perhaps my age range is slightly broader, but only slightly. i will go for the party type if i'm in the mood, but i do prefer the lunch, coffee and dinner type. i agree with banging the headboard by the second date but have had a surprising amount of success on the first (especially since i'm clearly not a bule). you're right that they're sick of the bs and appreciate something that's straightforward and "honest" for a change. perhaps we'll meet someday and exchange notes.


that was exactly my mo when i lived in a neighbouring country to the north. its truly a workable way of doing things and its really easy to successful within the parameters you so eloquently state. the other thing is that theres a fairly endless supply within your target audience and we all like / need / want some rotation along the way.that was when you were in my neck of the woods - where are you now freebie?


unfortunately, that would have disqualified me.
me too mate, i'm older than her mother. fortunately that was never the idea.:d:p

md ii.

FreebieFan
09-10-14, 10:24
That was when you were in my neck of the woods - where are you now Freebie?




MD II.In that very large country much further north. The large one with a red flag, pandas and dumplings and some very fair maidens.

Ceegee
09-11-14, 01:50
We appear to have a very similar background and modus operandi. I actually explicitly put on my Tinder profile that I'm not looking for anyone serious as I am already well-got and have no intention of changing my status, furthermore I've posted a nice clear picture of myself; a bap-faced bule who won't see his 45th birthday again. Result? Ping! Ping! Ping!
I use the same approach, it works a treat. One slight tweak, my picture is not actually of me, but a very similar looking guy I found through google images. The intent is not to make me look better, in fact I deliberately picked a guy that is fatter and older than me. No women have never noticed (or at least commented on) the differences and if my significant other is cruising the dating sites looking for me I cannot be found! A stage name and well rehearsed cover story helps too.



Third profile; slightly controversial here but it's only my personal choice. Key to me is time, it's limited for me. I want one date to lay the essential groundwork (LEG), that's a chat and coffee in some nice mall. After that I want to be bouncing the head-board in the next hook-up. If I have to do more than that then I've lucked out. In the first date I get all the LEG work done so reading the profile beforehand is essential. I don't want a bored rich girl, I'm not saying I won't score, the probability is that I will but it will be too much time and effort. I'm at a stage in my life where I don't need challenges anymore. I remember dating a lovely Chinese divorcee who I met in Grand Indonesia mall for coffee regularly and who spent the entire afternoons telling me how sick she was of married men who played around, and how she'd never go for that. I took her at her word eventually and quietly dropped her, only to have her contact me a year later asking me why we never made love back then. I've no time for all that.
Time is also of the essence for me, once I am on the ground in whatever country. I have had reasonable success getting through the "first date" step remotely by using some sort of instant messenger, chat politely for awhile and gradually bringing the conversation around to the task at hand. Some drop off at this point, but others have similar motives we do which allows us to go straight to head board banging on the first in person meeting.



So I'm leaving out rich girls, girls that express their love for Jesus (the come-to-Jesus lot are harder to convince than the head-scarf wearers, I don't need the hassle)I had my first head scarf wearing experience in the provinces recently, this has been a target market I have seriously overlooked. Needs much more investigation on my part.



They are out there Smoothy. I remember one who did the lot: anal, rimming, and bisexual to boot. Cost of a threesome was two Whopper meals from BK for the girls. She didn't need the money, her mum promised her a Mini Cooper if she got engaged to someone she approved of (this was while she was still in College).Perhaps not surprisingly I decided to go with the freebie last night. While we did not get around to rimming we did make a video of me blowing my load all over her face. For round 2 she wanted me to video her taking it in the ass, so of course I obliged. Then after wake up sex this morning she started telling me how tired she was and how long it had been since she had a holiday and casually dropped into conversation how I should buy her an airline ticket to a foreign country. WTF. So much for that freebie, she is crossed off the list now.

Hilo77
09-11-14, 02:02
Me too mate, I'm older than her mother. Fortunately that was never the idea.:D:p

MD II.Hmmm, now why does that put a thought in my head about a particular item on my bucket list? Actually truth be told I achieved it a few months back, mom was my own age but in a lot better shape, the daughter took the pictures.

Oh dear, I've been living in this town waaaaay too long, I need to get back to the real world.

Hilo77
09-11-14, 02:09
The other thing is that theres a fairly endless supply within your target audience and we all like / need / want some rotation along the way.Isn't that the truth? They keep changing but we remain the same.

The crazy young party things are now the career girls, a bit disillusioned with the scene and looking for a wiser, older man for advice and some slow loving. The career girls are now bored housewives frustrated with their dull lives out in the burbs, the yummy mummies are now divorced cougars out to rediscover the joys of life again while their daughters are now old enough to be out hitting the party scene, and so the wheel turns.

Life in Jakarta, it really doesn't get any better than this.

Pipe Layer99
09-12-14, 14:30
I like to say something romantic and corny like, "I have been with many girls, but I haven't found the right girl yet. " That works pretty well. Never put a number on it because it will never be right.Clear some of your old PMs from your inbox. I sent you another msg but you are full.

Random photo.

Medanboy
09-14-14, 00:35
Oh Yeh. That's the other question, a little more direct too.

Another tough one to answer and get right. Either way you answer its a difficult situ to be in.Well I always say with badoo girls that I used to play around a lot but that I am getting tired of it. Then I tell that now fun is still ok but that if it becomes serious it is fine too. Seems to work all the time. Gives them a challenge to convince me I guess.

ABCinLA
09-14-14, 15:42
Well back after several years with reduced options in Southern China a strong motive. Currently staying at Orchardz Jayakarta as I think its in a good central location. In fact I headed to the spa located in a back

building where I saw several hot hostesses dressed in pink. But they were there just to tease me. I soon found out they weren't service providers. I was a bit disappointed when I soon found out my assigned girl was a big step down but still decent looking who more or less met my requirements except for a heavy chest. It was 650,000 full service which included a very long decent oily massage followed by prolong body rubbing. Not quite down and dirty but good enough. Now on to the other places I've been reading about since I knew I had to find additional options instead of mainly CP.

Terwagne
09-15-14, 12:21
Late at night, Alexis is surprisingly close to Soukarno Hata: 10 minutes.

Indonesians of the 7th floor looked bored, no eye contact and a sexy one even refused to go with a bule. Good choices in the Vietnamese contingent and I decided to splurge. I was the first ever western customer of Sunny from Hanoi. After the pool, the shower together started full of promises: BJ and good cleaning of my bum. Good kissing, DATY, very long BBBJ, then 69, then BBBJ again. Sunny admitted it was the first time ever she came with DATY.

ABCinLA
09-17-14, 14:45
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ABCinLA
09-17-14, 15:05
Well finally made it down to Travel and Classic both IMHO is comparable to a BBS experience in China but that's ok as its only like $30 versus $25 to $50 in Southern China. I really like the six girl topless show. (2 fl) with other topless ladies selling lap dances for a shot fee at Classic. I think both have enough good looking women but who can tell in Travel based on the extremely dark lighting. Both places were a

covered BJ experience. Prior to going to Classic I had dropped by M Star Spa in Mangga Dua but saw the most homely line up. Needless to say I bolted out of there fast. I did get a long oil and soapy rub in the Kimochi near my area. Funny the two places which gave long professional rubs both gave BBBJs.

I really like the central location of Orchardz Jayarta and in fact took a train down to Mangga Bessar for Travel. Some people may think Orchardz is in a dump area; however, I've had to go to San Fernando, Pampanga, PI for 20 straight years (non mongering reasons) and its no different and the back alleys of CP which I walk is no better. I can walk over to Mangga Dua Square but can't recommend anyone else

doing it. Oh yes, I've been looking for a thin very heavy chested women partly somewhat for the benefit of someone coming over next month. I've yet to find anyone memorable.

So far given the various price points Jakarta looks very favorable compared to South China. Lastly, what is the difference between 2nd floor Classic versus the 5th floor?

ABCinLA
09-17-14, 15:26
Well finally made it down to both Classic and Travel. IMHO both are comparable to a BBS experience in China. However, that's not bad as its only like $30 versus $25 to $50 in Southern China. I really like.

The six girl topless show in Classic (2nd Fl) with other topless ladies walking around give a near lap dance experience for a shot fee. I think both places have more than enough good looking women to make

anyone happy; however, who can tell in Travel based on the extremely dark lighting. Both were a covered blow job experience. Prior to going over to Classic I first went to M Star Spa in my area. That place.

had the worse homely line up I've seen in a long time. Needless to say I bolted out of there quick. On my second day I had gone over to Kimochi near Orchardz J. Great oily and soapy rubs followed by a long

BBBJ and ending a full service finish. 590 k total price. Its funny both professional massage places I went to offered uncovered bjs.

I know some people think Orchardz J is in a dump location. But I've had to go to San Fernando, Pampanga, PI for 20 straight years and its no different. Nor worse than the back alleys of CP which I walk. This
location works for me and in fact I took a train down to Mangga Besar for Travel. I can walk over to Mangga Dua Square but can't recommend anyone else doing it. Based on the established price points

Jakarta looks very favorable compared to South China. Oh yes, I've looking for a thin super heavy chested women compared to Bintang in Classic (not there when I went) partly for the benefit of someone

coming over next month. I've yet to find someone memorable.

Lastly, what is the difference between second floor Classic and the fifth floor.

Jwolf96
09-20-14, 23:47
Pics of some fun with one of my regulars from BATS! Indonesian girls just have the best bodies in Asia! Always stays all night, great slow bbbjtcws followed by one position after the other. Great morning sex too, always my favorite way to wake up.

Ceegee
09-21-14, 01:55
Great set of tits on her. I love those Mulia bathtubs, have spent many hours soaking / sexing in them with Indo girls. How much did she set you back?


Pics of some fun with one of my regulars from BATS! Indonesian girls just have the best bodies in Asia! Always stays all night, great slow bbbjtcws followed by one position after the other. Great morning sex too, always my favorite way to wake up.

Smoothy
09-21-14, 05:06
Pics of some fun with one of my regulars from BATS! Indonesian girls just have the best bodies in Asia! Always stays all night, great slow bbbjtcws followed by one position after the other. Great morning sex too, always my favorite way to wake up.She's a current regular at Bats? I've never even seen her before.

ScotsDale
09-21-14, 11:28
She's a current regular at Bats? I've never even seen her before.I think I have seen her at Top Gun. Anyone know what has happened to the lovely Maria who has similar assets and hangs around Top Gun and My Bar?

D Cups
09-21-14, 16:17
Pics of some fun with one of my regulars from BATS! Indonesian girls just have the best bodies in Asia! Always stays all night, great slow bbbjtcws followed by one position after the other. Great morning sex too, always my favorite way to wake up.Agreed. Thanks, Jwolf. I am howling at these.

Jwolf96
09-22-14, 12:04
She's a current regular at Bats? I've never even seen her before.To be honest, I met her a couple years ago at Red Square in Senayan, but I always stay at Shangri La on business trips so she meets me there when I am in town. Not sure if she is regularly in 'the game' or where she frequents.

Smoothy
09-22-14, 16:36
To be honest, I met her a couple years ago at Red Square in Senayan, but I always stay at Shangri La on business trips so she meets me there when I am in town. Not sure if she is regularly in 'the game' or where she frequents.What a shame that Red Square is closed down now. I love those tits! You found a nice one there.

Fkpunter
09-22-14, 22:13
I made some notes for an upcoming trip to Jakarta and thought I'd share them here. Could anyone comment on whether anything has replaced in Stadium? I was supposed to go early this year and am gutted I missed out.

The best day time mongering is in the Kota area. Stay anywhere else and traffic will kill your day.

At night standard pickup bars are either BATS (Shangri-la) or CJ (Mulia Hotel) in central or Blok M in the South.

It's possible to take public transport to get down to Block M from Kota quickly earlier in the night and take a cab to other areas after 11 pm when the traffic calms down.

##North Jakarta\Jakarta Spas:

Prices per hour. Only include 1 shot. Plus 100 k tip to the girl.

Malioboro:(not to be confused with Malio Club next door) Jalan Gadjah Madah No. 13.

1st floor spa.

2nd floor lounge and bar.

Local girls: 800 k to 1 M.

Imports: 1. 2 M to 1. 4 M.

Alexis -#1 Jin Martadinata, Ancol, Jakarta.

Locals: up to 1.2 M.

Imports: up to 2 M.

5th floor. Girls will give a helicopter.

7th floor the best?

-Hotel Classic (Terminal) , Jalan Smanhudi 43-45.

3 levels.

Basement expensive,

Level 2 -400 k threesome opens at 3 pm bet from 6-8 pm.

Level 5 - better at night?

-Hotel Travel. Jalan Mangga Besar VIII / 21.

350 k for1 , 500 k threesome.

-Kartika Spa-.

Worth it for body to body.

Small is "kecil" - say this to get avoid a fat bird.

350 k.

-Berlian Spa.

-Maribaya spa. Hotel Malawi.

##Mangga Besar -Clubs.

Stadium has been closed down. Has anything replaced it?

Colosseum. Jalan Kunir No 7.

http://colosseum.co.id/Possibly more clean cut.

Milenium.

Golden Crown. Club.

Royal Crown. At Glodok.

Millie's. At Lokasri Plaza Jl. Mangga Besa Raya 81.

Hayam Waruk. Road for drug clubs?

In Kelapa Gading. Sumo Shiatsu.

Domian Senayan City. Wednesday.

BATS. Shangri-la 150 k entrance.

##Senayan & Gatot Subroto Area Bars:

Expect 1 M to 2 M for varying levels of freelancers. About 1 M for a bottle of spirit.

-Dragon Fly.

-Red Square. Plaza Senayan Area 150 k a drink (now closed?

-CJ- Hotel Mulia 140 k a beer.

-X2.

-Blowfish.

#Central Jakarta.

-Immigrant. Plaza Indonesia.

-Hard Rock Cafe.

-Jalan Jaksa.

Mandarin Oriental Bar. Tuesday Night ladies drink for free until midnight. 100 k a beer.

##Block M.

500 k-800 k for freelancers.

-Kaki Lima. On a road close to top gun 20 K local spirit.

-Top gun. Closes early, maybe midnight?

-My Bar. Still open when top gun closes.

-the's Place. - Possible to get BJ in the Back for 300 k.

##Normal Bars:

-Kemang.

-Jalan Jaksa, Wahid Haysam.

-SCBD area.

##Cheapo Hotels:

http://www.favehotels.com/hotellist/eng/21/favehotel-pasar-baru

Also Glodok.

Morrissey is located on Wahid Hasyim and jl Jaksa. -700 k nice italian restaurant.

SCBD Lot 8 Hall A, Kawasan Niaga Terpadu Sudirman.

Jl. Jendral Sudirman Kav 52-53, Jakarta Selatan 1219.

Joel Goodsen
09-23-14, 01:47
Is Red Square closed down now? That is a surprise. Jakarta100 bars doesn't mention anything about it, normally they update when a bar closes down:

http://www.jakarta100bars.com/2009/01/red-square-senayan-arcadia.html

RodneyRude
09-23-14, 09:13
Have to comment on slow demise of the block, first went there 8 years ago and wow was fantastic but sadly the same girls that were there then are still there now, the place needs an enema, Ds is the worst, ugly old hacks keeping the good looking new ones from coming in, shame G string closed down, hard to find a rose amongst the thorns these days, anyone know of a similar set up to Blok M in Jakarta?

Rude

Ceegee
09-23-14, 10:24
but I always stay at Shangri La on business trips Oh, I would have sworn that is a Mulia bathroom in the pictures. Oh well.

Fanofrocco
09-23-14, 10:24
Is Red Square closed down now? That is a surprise. Jakarta100 bars doesn't mention anything about it, normally they update when a bar closes down:

http://www.jakarta100bars.com/2009/01/red-square-senayan-arcadia.htmlCopy and paste from https://www.facebook.com/groups/redsquarejakarta/

The Management and Staff of Red Square.

Red Square will close our doors after 9 amazing years!

Would like express our sincere appreciation for your support ever nine fabulous years!

We are closing our Plaza Senayan Arcadia location on Saturday, August 30,2014, but will reopen soon even bigger and better!

Thank you so much for your support over the years.

So seems like it is closed.

Master Diver II
09-23-14, 10:48
Oh, I would have sworn that is a Mulia bathroom in the pictures. Oh well.I know what you mean: very similar taps and the colour of the granite. The giveaway is in the earlier pic where you can see the entrance. That's not Mulia.

MD II.

Smoothy
09-23-14, 11:10
shame G string closed downI always thought that place was lame. I never took a girl home from there.

The Blok is definitely not what it once was. Ever since they closed Lintas Melawai. But it's still good fun.

Jwolf96
09-23-14, 13:52
I know what you mean: very similar taps and the colour of the granite. The giveaway is in the earlier pic where you can see the entrance. That's not Mulia.

MD II.That pic is from Mulia. That is my backup hotel when Shangri La is full. I love my business trips to Jakarta!

Menteng
09-23-14, 14:46
I know what you mean: very similar taps and the colour of the granite. The giveaway is in the earlier pic where you can see the entrance. That's not Mulia.

MD II.So, add the lame excuse that it happened a couple of years ago, what will be the verdict? Guilty of faking?

Jwolf96
09-24-14, 09:19
So, add the lame excuse that it happened a couple of years ago, what will be the verdict? Guilty of faking?Menteng, all due respect but if you read my post again you will see that I met her a couple years ago, however the pictures are very recent. Just trying to post that one of the great things about Jakarta is that you can meet a stunner at a proper bar, and as Indo girls tend to be passionate and with a high sex drive, you can secure a regular for some great fun for all your future visits.

To clear up the Mulia / not Mulia debate, hear are some more pictures. Yes you can clearly see it is Mulia, one of the few trips in Mulia rather than Shangri La, but Mulia must be to her liking as it is the one time she let me take some photos! Hope this clears things up! Surely anyone who has ever spent a night in Mulia will remember the big green couch!

Menteng
09-24-14, 17:54
Menteng, all due respect but if you read my post again you will see that I met her a couple years ago, however the pictures are very recent. Just trying to post that one of the great things about Jakarta is that you can meet a stunner at a proper bar, and as Indo girls tend to be passionate and with a high sex drive, you can secure a regular for some great fun for all your future visits.

To clear up the Mulia / not Mulia debate, hear are some more pictures. Yes you can clearly see it is Mulia, one of the few trips in Mulia rather than Shangri La, but Mulia must be to her liking as it is the one time she let me take some photos! Hope this clears things up! Surely anyone who has ever spent a night in Mulia will remember the big green couch!Case closed. I hope no harm's done! Welcome to the thread!

Hilo77
09-25-14, 03:50
Wow, are things really that boring around here we're reduced to discussing the merits of various hotel bathrooms? Jeez, seriously who looked at those photos and thought "Hey, I like those bathroom tiles"?

On the subject of Blok M as raised below, there is no question that the place has gone downhill a lot but as Smoothy points out Jakarta old timers have been bemoaning the decline in Blok M since Blok M became Blok M. You can still have fun and I have to say were I so minded I'd be tempted by some of the cuties now hanging around in the streets nearby Falatehan, the quality there has improved immeasurably in recent years.

In the bars themselves I certainly miss the absolutely heaving scene that would greet you upstairs in Upper-case-fourth-letter-of-the-alphabet's Place (auto-edit, who needs it?) from 9 pm onwards and in My Bar from 10 pm onwards, I enjoyed the way you could just walk in have a wander around and simply nod at a girl and ten minutes later you were in your room in the Ambara, then back to the bar again for another round with someone else, that was a lot of fun.

That has all gone but given that I have now switched my attention to the barstaff in several establishments (two currently on the go) I can live without it. That is another thing that has improved, the willingness of the staff to hook up, or it may just be a consequence of my long-term attendance that they now are familiar with me and are willing to go for quiet dalliances with regular, discreet customers who know how to keep their mouths shut around their colleagues. Perhaps I'm just looked at as a safe bet, an old codger to extract some money for the kids' school fees or mama's medication, either way I'm cool with the set up.

Alas there is one bar that has the unquestionably the hottest and cutest staff that I haven't quite cracked yet and judging by the blokes who hang out drooling at the counter I am not alone, but I am working on it.

Smoothy
09-25-14, 04:10
Alas there is one bar that has the unquestionably the hottest and cutest staff that I haven't quite cracked yet and judging by the blokes who hang out drooling at the counter I am not alone, but I am working on it.I'm pretty sure I know which bar you are talking about. I've gotten nowhere with any of those girls. I am starting to think it's a hopeless chase. Then again, I don't hang out in there for long because it's boring.

MarkIII
09-25-14, 14:53
I always liked Reds but now I hear that it is closed, I would love to hear any alternatives.

Things are moving fast in Jakarta.

My shortlist is:

- Crown, great music (if your not too old), great rooms for a private party.

- Nebula.

- Empirica.

- Colloseum.

Any of you guys tried one of the last 3 clubs??

Mark.

Sad Sam
09-26-14, 14:36
I know that it is girl friendly and somewhat inconvenient to get to Travel or Classic. What I was wondering was. Is the traffic bad to Kota during the day on weekdays or weekends as well? Is there any easy public transportation that could make the journey more tolerable?

Thanks

Traveler1234
09-26-14, 16:58
I know that it is girl friendly and somewhat inconvenient to get to Travel or Classic. What I was wondering was. Is the traffic bad to Kota during the day on weekdays or weekends as well? Is there any easy public transportation that could make the journey more tolerable?

ThanksUnfortunately the answer is NO.

Mighty Spearsman
09-28-14, 03:15
i know that it is girl friendly and somewhat inconvenient to get to travel or classic. what i was wondering was. is the traffic bad to kota during the day on weekdays or weekends as well? is there any easy public transportation that could make the journey more tolerable?

thanksyes, the traffic is bad to kota mondays through saturdays (and sundays are not much better). one option to speed up your trip a bit would be to take the transjakarta bus line #1 from the "karet" stop on jalan sudirman up to kota. you'd still have to take a taxi from the marriott to the karet stop (or else walk if it's not too hot), but it would certainly be faster (and cheaper) than taking a taxi the whole way.

LA Guy 5
09-28-14, 05:31
yes, the traffic is bad to kota mondays through saturdays (and sundays are not much better). one option to speed up your trip a bit would be to take the transjakarta bus line #1 from the "karet" stop on jalan sudirman up to kota. you'd still have to take a taxi from the marriott to the karet stop (or else walk if it's not too hot), but it would certainly be faster (and cheaper) than taking a taxi the whole way.my experiences on the transjakarta buses are highly variable although i guess they have purchased some newer buses recently. maybe a couple of years ago i was in one of their older buses and literally had to open my umbrella to keep the rain coming through the roof of the bus off of me. and i'm not afraid of light rain and only use an umbrella when it pours, as it did through the bus roof. the other problem is they can get very crowded. so, although i used to rely on the transjakarta buses to get to kota (to avoid, or at least minimize traffic delays) my preferred mode of transportation now is a silver bird, in which at least you will be comfortable while stuck in traffic (it does cost a bit more than a standard taxi, although the cost is still a bargain by first-world standards).

Hilo77
09-28-14, 05:36
I'm pretty sure I know which bar you are talking about. I've gotten nowhere with any of those girls. I am starting to think it's a hopeless chase. Then again, I don't hang out in there for long because it's boring.Glad I'm not alone in my strike-out rate there. The girls are among the best looking, they wear the sexiest outfits and flirt outrageously with the customers but beyond a hefty bill after buying them drinks I haven't got a damn thing else from them. It's not worth the hike to the end of the street to be honest.

Hilo77
09-28-14, 05:54
You'd still have to take a taxi from the Marriott to the Karet stop (or else walk if it's not too hot)Walk from the Marriott (the one in Kuningan right?) to the Karet busway stop in Sudirman? I'm not afraid of a bit of a walk but that's got to be a two-and-a-half mile rather meandering walk on Jakarta's broken, crowded, pot-holed pavements. I can't help thinking you wouldn't be in much shape for any fun after that.

LA Guy 5
09-28-14, 07:09
Walk from the Marriott (the one in Kuningan right?) to the Karet busway stop in Sudirman? I'm not afraid of a bit of a walk but that's got to be a two-and-a-half mile rather meandering walk on Jakarta's broken, crowded, pot-holed pavements. I can't help thinking you wouldn't be in much shape for any fun after that.I was wondering about that too. The OP on this question mentioned the JW Marriott which would put it rather far from that busway. There is the Marriott residential apartments (or whatever it is called) that would be much closer to the busway--virtually on top of it--but it is not a JW Marriott. Having stayed at the JW Marriott before, trying to do anything other than a taxi to Kota (or the area close to Kota) wouldn't be worth the trouble and inconvenience IMHO.

Incidentally, when I earlier mentioned that I used to use the Transjakarta buses to get to Kota, it wasn't from the JW Marriott but rather from the area around Plaza Indonesia, which makes it a straight shoot to Kota.

Hilo77
09-29-14, 02:46
Incidentally, when I earlier mentioned that I used to use the Transjakarta buses to get to Kota, it wasn't from the JW Marriott but rather from the area around Plaza Indonesia, which makes it a straight shoot to Kota.I used to live not far from Sarinah and found the Busway to be a tool for philandering on a par with the mobile phone it was that convenient. From my location it was less than half an hour either way to Kota or Blok M, the only problem of the day was deciding which direction to take. There was also the good likelihood of actually scoring on the bus itself (these were the days before gender apartheid was imposed on the buses) and at the end of the evening you arrived back at Sarinah which was then another hotspot for free-lance ladies finishing their day jobs and wandering round looking for a hapless bule to pounce on.

Happy days.

Medanboy
09-29-14, 16:26
My experiences on the transjakarta buses are highly variable although I guess they have purchased some newer buses recently. Maybe a couple of years ago I was in one of their older buses and literally had to open my umbrella to keep the rain coming through the roof of the bus off of me. And I'm not afraid of light rain and only use an umbrella when it pours, as it did through the bus roof. The other problem is they can get very crowded. So, although I used to rely on the transjakarta buses to get to Kota (to avoid, or at least minimize traffic delays) my preferred mode of transportation now is a Silver Bird, in which at least you will be comfortable while stuck in traffic (it does cost a bit more than a standard taxi, although the cost is still a bargain by first-world standards).I tryed the transjakarta buses recently. I used to only use the kopaja's sometimes when I all I needed to go was straight. . I do not get they take our male pleasures away by separating the genders. QuikCash was not possible either, I had to buy a 5 time busticket or something. Other then that, overcrowded but A / see which made it all fine.

Hilo77
09-30-14, 02:58
Ok I know this should be in the "other places" thread but who reads them, and anyway as it's only a couple of hours from Jakarta I'll push my luck and put it here. Cilegon is a major industrial town in Banten that has many expats, although mainly Koreans and Japanese it has to be said. There must be somewhere that is worth a look by someone who has the misfortune to have to spend two nights there. Has anyone got any ideas? I'd be happy to provide a full FR if required.

Possessed Seoul
09-30-14, 15:33
I'm not privvy to the expat scene in Cilegon, although as you suggest, with so many Koreans and whatnot out there, its a good bet that there is some pay for play action. I would also hazzard a guess that the area contains some kind of local scene, although the Blok and other Jakarta nightspots seem to be awash with girls from Tangerang and further afield in Banten.

That being said, if it is still open, head for Anyer, about 20 kilometers away and you have the Blue Moon Bar. The waitresses there are reportedly up for extra curricular activities. You can find more info on directions by searching for Blue Moon Bar and Restaurant Anyer on Google.


Ok I know this should be in the "other places" thread but who reads them, and anyway as it's only a couple of hours from Jakarta I'll push my luck and put it here. Cilegon is a major industrial town in Banten that has many expats, although mainly Koreans and Japanese it has to be said. There must be somewhere that is worth a look by someone who has the misfortune to have to spend two nights there. Has anyone got any ideas? I'd be happy to provide a full FR if required.

Hilo77
10-01-14, 06:35
I'm not privvy to the expat scene in Cilegon, although as you suggest, with so many Koreans and whatnot out there, its a good bet that there is some pay for play action. I would also hazzard a guess that the area contains some kind of local scene, although the Blok and other Jakarta nightspots seem to be awash with girls from Tangerang and further afield in Banten.

That being said, if it is still open, head for Anyer, about 20 kilometers away and you have the Blue Moon Bar. The waitresses there are reportedly up for extra curricular activities. You can find more info on directions by searching for Blue Moon Bar and Restaurant Anyer on Google.Thank you for your helpful reply, I actually am familiar with the Blue Moon but I think its glory days are very much a thing of the past, the last time I was there I was the only customer and the forty-something ibu nursing the child behind the counter didn't look like she was up for much.

I have checked out a few of the Indonesian websites (Kaskus, BintangMawar etc) and have got some info from them, it seems karaoke and "salons" are the main option. There are two problems however, the maddeningly imprecise nature of the directions "dekat Ramayana", "belakang Mayofield" etc. , the other is that when I do track down positive leads and google them it invariably leads to a news story about how they've been closed down in a razia, Banten like much of western Java is going through a conservative phase these days.

However nothing daunted I am looking forward to the challenge, it'll be like the good old days in Indonesia of ten or more years ago before the interwebs and you'd rack up somewhere like Manado or Balikpapan and simply have to find out the scene yourself, ojek drivers, taxi drivers and bell-hops in Cilegon can expect to get good tips from me soon.

It's going to be fun (provided there's no razia of course).

Yomama99
10-01-14, 09:59
Thank you for your helpful reply, I actually am familiar with the Blue Moon but I think its glory days are very much a thing of the past, the last time I was there I was the only customer and the forty-something ibu nursing the child behind the counter didn't look like she was up for much.

.Wow. Love to hear that name again. Blue Moon. I had some fun times there. It used to be the center for the HASH (drinking club with a running problem) and had a lot of very interesting personalities. Where did everyone go? I heard the place was bombed and re-opened. I went there again in 2012 and it was way slowed down but was still able to take a cute waitress home for the weekend. The owner was an amazing Dayak lady married to an Aussie. . What happened to them? Anyone know?

Hilo77
10-01-14, 11:20
Wow. Love to hear that name again. Blue Moon. I had some fun times there. It used to be the center for the HASH (drinking club with a running problem) and had a lot of very interesting personalities. Where did everyone go? I heard the place was bombed and re-opened. I went there again in 2012 and it was way slowed down but was still able to take a cute waitress home for the weekend. The owner was an amazing Dayak lady married to an Aussie. . What happened to them? Anyone know?I get the impression the place is living off past memories, there's a lot of Hash memorabilia on the wall but it looks dusty and dated and I get the impression they haven't been there in a while. The place wasn't bombed but burned down a short while after the Bali bombing thus putting the owners out of business (or if some rumours are correct the owner had already become the bar's main and frequently only customer) the place is locally owned now I believe.

I stand to be corrected as it's a place I had heard great reports about but which turned out to be a disappointment when I actually found it.

Cooze Hound
10-01-14, 12:09
Wow. Love to hear that name again. Blue Moon. I had some fun times there. It used to be the center for the HASH (drinking club with a running problem) and had a lot of very interesting personalities. Where did everyone go? I heard the place was bombed and re-opened. I went there again in 2012 and it was way slowed down but was still able to take a cute waitress home for the weekend. The owner was an amazing Dayak lady married to an Aussie. . What happened to them? Anyone know?Yes I recall the Blue Moon, once had some luck there. THink I made a post about it once, but its been a few years since I have ventured that way.

Hilo77
10-02-14, 06:15
A timely reminder as it is something that has caught me out very often in the past. Sunday is goat-slashing day, which means that on Saturday night everywhere is shut, and if you do venture out taxis home will be like hens' teeth. Something worth bearing in mind if you have made any plans.

Bigger747
10-02-14, 22:57
I will be in Jakarta next week staying in Holiday Inn. I heard it is near some golf course, any actions that there that can be recommended. Any info will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

FilipinoRick
10-04-14, 15:18
Hello guys,

Its my first time to visit Indonesia after being a regular in Thailand and Philippines. Do you have any advice on where I should stay? Somewhere close to the action, safe and easy to pick up nice girls. I am African American. So I hope that's not a issue with the girls. Anything you guys can recommend would be great. I am planning a 4 day trip.

Lefeu
10-04-14, 16:54
Hello guys,

Its my first time to visit Indonesia after being a regular in Thailand and Philippines. Do you have any advice on where I should stay? Somewhere close to the action, safe and easy to pick up nice girls. I am African American. So I hope that's not a issue with the girls. Anything you guys can recommend would be great. I am planning a 4 day trip.I was in Jakarta early this year, for the first time. They have 2 major mongering venues, North and South, but it's a major to get from one to the other. Folks had told me it would be easy if you do it late at night, not quite true. Even at 2 am, it was quite a trip going from one to the other. I suggest you spend a few days in one place, then move to another hotel, much more convenient. One area has mostly clubs with night activities (BATS, CJ, and others). The other area has mostly SPAs (hotel Classic / Travel, Alexis), open during the day. Still, traffic can be a big hassle anywhere. I suggest you read the forum for more Intel.

Lefeu
10-04-14, 16:58
Hello guys,

Its my first time to visit Indonesia after being a regular in Thailand and Philippines. Do you have any advice on where I should stay? Somewhere close to the action, safe and easy to pick up nice girls. I am African American. So I hope that's not a issue with the girls. Anything you guys can recommend would be great. I am planning a 4 day trip.Sorry, I forgot to address your race question. I am not Caucasian, and look more Hispanice / Indian. IMO, the race issue is the same as in Thailand. If you managed to have a good time in there, you can probably do the same in Jakarta.

Stykler
10-04-14, 23:34
Hello guys,

Its my first time to visit Indonesia after being a regular in Thailand and Philippines. Do you have any advice on where I should stay? Somewhere close to the action, safe and easy to pick up nice girls. I am African American. So I hope that's not a issue with the girls. Anything you guys can recommend would be great. I am planning a 4 day trip.With less than 3 seconds of research I found this link.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2450-Jakarta-Hotels

Fuck me dead.

MasBule
10-05-14, 04:30
If your near a golf course, and without knowing the location, its a very safe assumption to say your nowhere near any mongering action worth mentioning.

Forget mongering in Jakarta as youll spend hours in traffic and instead score with the P4 P caddy (that's a whole different experience not often mentioned on this board).


I will be in Jakarta next week staying in Holiday Inn. I heard it is near some golf course, any actions that there that can be recommended. Any info will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

MasBule
10-05-14, 04:31
I was wondering what that little magnifying glass thing at the top of the screen did.


With less than 3 seconds of research I found this link.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2450-Jakarta-Hotels

Fuck me dead.

Possessed Seoul
10-05-14, 13:15
The owner was an amazing Dayak lady married to an Aussie. . What happened to them? Anyone know?Not the real owner. The money behind the establishment is a troika of bules who live in Jakarta.

Yomama99
10-06-14, 16:43
Hello guys,

Its my first time to visit Indonesia after being a regular in Thailand and Philippines. Do you have any advice on where I should stay? Somewhere close to the action, safe and easy to pick up nice girls. I am African American. So I hope that's not a issue with the girls. Anything you guys can recommend would be great. I am planning a 4 day trip.In my opinion:

The North (Malioboro, etc) has more locals. Rich Chinese. Very attractive women. Slick scene. Lots of action.

The Middle (BATS, CJs) is white rich business travelers. Women expect close to 1 M Rp for action.

The South (Blok M) lots of local whites who want cheap beer and a good deal. Downscale and rundown. I have never paid more than 500 K.

Master Diver II
10-07-14, 11:51
I'm devastated; I was supposed to meet with FastEddie and end the debate for once and for all as to whether HE is a real person and actually comes here. HE did give me his dates in all fairness, but something I cannot avoid, requires my presence in another country on the 17th. I'm sure if another senior member of good standing were to want to meet him, HE'd oblige. My humblest apologies FastEddie.


Hello guys,

Its my first time to visit Indonesia after being a regular in Thailand and Philippines. Do you have any advice on where I should stay? Somewhere close to the action, safe and easy to pick up nice girls. I am African American. So I hope that's not a issue with the girls. Anything you guys can recommend would be great. I am planning a 4 day trip.Alternatively, check the dating sites. There are plenty of P4 P as well as "normal" women there. Just be upfront with what you want. I'm planning my own 4 day trip and thus far, it's more a question of who there's time for. There's never enough time.

MD II.

Smoothy
10-08-14, 01:45
The South (Blok M) lots of local whites who want cheap beer and a good deal. Downscale and rundown. I have never paid more than 500 K.If you have "never" paid more than 500 k in Blok M, then I would venture a guess that you have not been taking the nicest looking girls in Blok M. The high demand girls who are the best looking will want more than that. I do agree though that over 90% of the girls in Blok M can be had for 500 k. You get what you pay for.

Andy Russett
10-08-14, 02:34
I made some notes for an upcoming trip to Jakarta and thought I'd share them here. Could anyone comment on whether anything has replaced in Stadium? I was supposed to go early this year and am gutted I missed out.

The best day time mongering is in the Kota area. Stay anywhere else and traffic will kill your day.

At night standard pickup bars are either BATS (Shangri-la) or CJ (Mulia Hotel) in central or Blok M in the South.

It's possible to take public transport to get down to Block M from Kota quickly earlier in the night and take a cab to other areas after 11 pm when the traffic calms down.

##North Jakarta\Jakarta Spas:

Prices per hour. Only include 1 shot. Plus 100 k tip to the girl.

Malioboro:(not to be confused with Malio Club next door) Jalan Gadjah Madah No. 13.

1st floor spa...Very Nice Capture: Could be Report of Distinction.

Mariabaya Spa opens at 9 am, but I can't vouch for selection.

Travel opens at 1 pm.

Classic 3rd floor opens at 1:30.

Berlian, Kartika etc open at 11 am.

D Cups
10-08-14, 04:25
I'm devastated; I was supposed to meet with FastEddie and end the debate for once and for all as to whether HE is a real person and actually comes here. HE did give me his dates in all fairness, but something I cannot avoid, requires my presence in another country on the 17th. I'm sure if another senior member of good standing were to want to meet him, HE'd oblige. My humblest apologies FastEddie.

Alternatively, check the dating sites. There are plenty of P4 P as well as "normal" women there. Just be upfront with what you want. I'm planning my own 4 day trip and thus far, it's more a question of who there's time for. There's never enough time.

MD II.Fast Eddie is real of course. I've talked to him on the phone a few times in California.

Joel Goodsen
10-08-14, 06:34
I'm devastated; I was supposed to meet with FastEddie and end the debate for once and for all as to whether HE is a real person and actually comes here. HE did give me his dates in all fairness, but something I cannot avoid, requires my presence in another country on the 17th. I'm sure if another senior member of good standing were to want to meet him, HE'd oblige. My humblest apologies FastEddie.I think it will be fun to meet FastEddie. I am back in Jakarta, cruising around town and can travel anywhere.

FastEddie if you read this, perhaps you could drop me a PM when you are here, it will be great to meet up and I'd be honored to buy you a drink, cheers.

Fast Eddie 48
10-08-14, 16:54
Fast Eddie is real of course. I've talked to him on the phone a few times in California.To D Cups.

I try to PM you inbox is full now is your trip to PI been in China for a few week for trade show and now in Singapore will be in Jarkata next week, I know alot of ISG member here I have no meet because I am alway too busy visiting customer for all ISG member that I have meet in China, Singapore, Manila and S America know I am real, just member like old fart Koppel and Menteng like to give other ISG member problems.

Fast eddie 48.

Fast Eddie 48
10-08-14, 16:58
I think it will be fun to meet FastEddie. I am back in Jakarta, cruising around town and can travel anywhere.

FastEddie if you read this, perhaps you could drop me a PM when you are here, it will be great to meet up and I'd be honored to buy you a drink, cheers.To Joel.

I will be in Jarkata next week for buisness coming in from Singapore on Oct. 17 stay 2 days and then visit customer in Bandung will be stay in Mecure near Mangar besar pm me with your cell so I can contact you.

Fast eddie 48.

D Cups
10-08-14, 18:18
To D Cups.

I try to PM you inbox is full now is your trip to PI been in China for a few week for trade show and now in Singapore will be in Jarkata next week, I know alot of ISG member here I have no meet because I am alway too busy visiting customer for all ISG member that I have meet in China, Singapore, Manila and S America know I am real, just member like old fart Koppel and Menteng like to give other ISG member problems.

Fast eddie 48.Sorry about that Eddie. Should be empty now. Please save any digits of busty ones in Jakarta and Manila for me if you want. I'll be going to Jakarta and Bali next year and it'd be nice to have some referrals. Of course I treat the girls well. Squeeze some big boobs for me, Eddie. Cheers.

Fast Eddie 48
10-09-14, 06:37
Sorry about that Eddie. Should be empty now. Please save any digits of busty ones in Jakarta and Manila for me if you want. I'll be going to Jakarta and Bali next year and it'd be nice to have some referrals. Of course I treat the girls well. Squeeze some big boobs for me, Eddie. Cheers.To the Cups.

I got a busty girl a few month ago at Classic terminal big boob your favorite she have blue eyes half Pakistani Muslim, I will check if she still there will get her cell number for you she give me her sister number in Hong Kong work in a resturant there, I don't know any in PI or China I alway treat my girl nice like GFE.

Fast eddie 48.

Suwon
10-09-14, 13:01
Hello gents,

This is my first foray onto the Jakarta boards, and having RTFF I must say, thanks to all of those who have punted and reported before me! There's a wealth of information for those of us who are stopping in for a visit. I'm dropping in for a weekend and will have a very limited amount of time to monger, and will have to be outcall only. I've had a look through the posts to deem which options are the most appealing, and was just wondering how much information I need to give your average cab driver (bluebird only apparently!) in order to get to Classic, Mariabaya or Hotel Travel?

It might seem a stupid question (and to be fair, it probably is) but if I just say "Classic Spa please" will that be enough, or should I have a little more geographical detail or a little map to help the bloke? (Like I said, it seems a stupid question, but in Korea you'd struggle without more detail than that. I had a cabbie who couldn't find the "National Cricket Stadium" last week. As if there's more than one of those here!

Thanks for any advice you might offer! If you're ever in Korea, I'll return the favour!

Smoothy
10-09-14, 13:33
she have blue eyesI think those are called blue colored contact lenses, not eyes. How many Indonesians or Pakistani's have you seen with blue eyes?

D Cups
10-09-14, 15:15
To the Cups.I got a busty girl a few month ago at Classic terminal big boob your favorite she have blue eyes half Pakistani Muslim, I will check if she still there will get her cell number for you she give me her sister number in Hong Kong work in a resturant there, I don't know any in PI or China I alway treat my girl nice like GFE.Fast eddie 48.Sounds nice, Eddie. Thanks a lot! Cheers, mate!

Menteng
10-09-14, 16:02
To D Cups.

just member like old fart Koppel and Menteng like to give other ISG member problems.

Fast eddie 48.Years ago, when I lived in Jakarta and you announced several times in the thread that you were going to visit there, at first I invited and later I challenged you to meet. You never reacted! I mean, not even a refusal or an excuse did you mention. Wait a moment, that's not entirely true. You did cancel one appointment due to postponing a trip. Imagine my amazement, when you posted an FR about your experience in Jakarta, taking place during the trip that was supposed to be postponed.

But, you do seem to have visited all the places you mentioned. My mistake then.

I'll be in Jakarta from 21/12 2014 to 16/4 2015. I hope we can meet and clear things up then.

Menteng
10-09-14, 16:10
I think those are called blue colored contact lenses, not eyes. How many Indonesians or Pakistani's have you seen with blue eyes?I'm in Colombia now, but as soon as I'm back in Spain, I'll search for a photo of a "blue-eyed" half Pakistani girl, named Putri, I once met in Jakarta.

It would be a hell of a coincidence if she is the same one FE48 mentioned.

Menteng
10-09-14, 16:17
Fast Eddie is real of course. I've talked to him on the phone a few times in California.But you've never met him? It's all about that, meeting him!

Smoothy
10-09-14, 16:47
I'm in Colombia now, but as soon as I'm back in Spain, I'll search for a photo of a "blue-eyed" half Pakistani girl, named Putri, I once met in Jakarta.

It would be a hell of a coincidence if she is the same one FE48 mentioned.My bet is that she thinks she is a half Pakistani girl, but she's really a half Dutch girl. Her mom was likely sleeping around on the side. I've made quite a few trips to Pakistan. I've never seen any locals there with blue eyes. I'm sure they may exist, but they would be quite rare.

My ex indo girlfriend was an indonesian-pakistani mix. She had brown eyes, big breasts and whiter skin than most indos. Very sexy girl.

Joel Goodsen
10-09-14, 16:51
To Joel.

I will be in Jarkata next week for buisness coming in from Singapore on Oct. 17 stay 2 days and then visit customer in Bandung will be stay in Mecure near Mangar besar pm me with your cell so I can contact you.

Fast eddie 48.Hi Eddie,

I just posted you my number, drop me a note when you here, that will be fun.

Thanks!

UsPete
10-09-14, 17:11
my bet is that she thinks she is a half pakistani girl, but she's really a half dutch girl. her mom was likely sleeping around on the side. i've made quite a few trips to pakistan. i've never seen any locals there with blue eyes. i'm sure they may exist, but they would be quite rare.there's a very well known tribe in pakistan called the kalash, all have blue or green eyes. although muslim they also are also polytheistic.

i was taking the short pleasant walk from morrissey hotel to gondangdia krl station which takes you on a safe trip over the traffic in a sort of blade runner speed too travel hotel / kota. with time to spare i stopped off at the dutch era orphanage to chat with some of the kids and helpers. as usual quite a number of bare-back accidents of mixed parentage but i did notice one particularly jovial girl with green eyes and freckles all over her arms and legs. if any of you guys reading this post of a freckled hue. they welcome donations.

D Cups
10-09-14, 21:56
But you've never met him? It's all about that, meeting him!Not really, Menteng. I happen to know that FE travels a lot for tradeshows for work. Why would a guy who's NOT Fast Eddie call me on a cell phone and tell me HE's Fast Eddie? Geez dude, get a life and stop ragging on fellow mongers.

MasBule
10-10-14, 01:59
Classic is easy. Just say 'hotel classic pasar baru' any taxi driver should know it.

Maribaya you will never find it by saying that or the 6th floor. Got to ask for Melawai Hotel (grand boutique), Blokm.

Hotel Travel. Easiest for a taxi driver to find, find just ask for 'hotel travel, mangga besar' - every taxi driver will know that for sure.

Bluebird, Express (white taxi), gamya (green taxi), silverbird (black. Luxury bluebird brand), whitehorse (luxury express? Brand) are all good. Biggest worry is the ones that look like bluebirds that appear late at night in places like blokm and north Jakarta.

Some places. For example at hotel classic, they will give you a bluebird peice of paper that has the drivers registration on it, so if you have to do a runner, or get in trouble, you have their rego to followup. It keeps the drivers honest in my opinion.


just wondering how much information I need to give your average cab driver (bluebird only apparently!) in order to get to Classic, Mariabaya or Hotel Travel?

It might seem a stupid question (and to be fair, it probably is) but if I just say "Classic Spa please" will that be enough, or should I have a little more geographical detail or a little map to help the bloke? !

Fast Eddie 48
10-10-14, 07:05
But you've never met him? It's all about that, meeting him!To Menteng.

If you want to meet just come down to Jarkata next week I will even buy you a beer be here or be Square.

Fast eddie 48.

Suwon
10-10-14, 11:33
Classic is easy. Just say 'hotel classic pasar baru' any taxi driver should know it.

Maribaya you will never find it by saying that or the 6th floor. Got to ask for Melawai Hotel (grand boutique), Blokm.

Hotel Travel. Easiest for a taxi driver to find, find just ask for 'hotel travel, mangga besar' - every taxi driver will know that for sure.

Bluebird, Express (white taxi), gamya (green taxi), silverbird (black. Luxury bluebird brand), whitehorse (luxury express? Brand) are all good. Biggest worry is the ones that look like bluebirds that appear late at night in places like blokm and north Jakarta.

Some places. For example at hotel classic, they will give you a bluebird peice of paper that has the drivers registration on it, so if you have to do a runner, or get in trouble, you have their rego to followup. It keeps the drivers honest in my opinion.Thanks mate, reports will follow (if I can shake myself free for an hour or three).

KiJang
10-11-14, 12:50
It was the day before eid-al-adha. I was at BATS. No music, no cover charge, just a bunch of sad old expats drinking. The Indian manager recognised me from last time and came down to have a chat. There would be no live music for 2 nights HE said, and they were allowed to remain open until 11 pm as they had a restaurant license. The Chinese looking owner of the Jakarta Shangri-la franchise was there too. Pretty inconspicuous looking old chap who walks around in sandals and ill fitting trousers, hehe.

There were a few working girls and only 1 stood out and as being a 7+ in my opinion. She came over (after I caught her eye) introduced herself and we instantly hit it off. She told me she was Balinese, a model, fashion student, showed loads of professionally taken pictures on her mobile (I later did a check on her FB profile and her story checks out, not that I care). Anyway, negotiated 1. 5 million IDR for a couple of hours and she drove me back to my hotel in her car. A good time was had, money well spent.

2 nights later I met her at CJ's. The pickings were not to my liking. "Interviewed" a few girls who were do-able and reasonably priced, however, did not partake. Went to Blok-M, found a MILF I had done couple of months back (well she found me) and in no time we were headed back to the hotel.

Most of my time was spent banging an assortment of freebie acquaintances from online dating sites and work circle. I love Jakarta. Until next time. Adios!

Smoothy
10-11-14, 13:19
There were a few working girls and only 1 stood out and as being a 7+ in my opinion. She came over (after I caught her eye) introduced herself and we instantly hit it off. She told me she was Balinese, a model, fashion student, showed loads of professionally taken pictures on her mobile (I later did a check on her FB profile and her story checks out, not that I care). Anyway, negotiated 1. 5 million IDR for a couple of hours and she drove me back to my hotel in her car. A good time was had, money well spent.
If that's the same girl I am thinking of, she has some nice big breasts!

KiJang
10-11-14, 18:52
If that's the same girl I am thinking of, she has some nice big breasts!Yes!! Heavenly airbags. I have a picture of her driving, taken by me sitting on the passenger seat. Airbag is the first word that comes to mind when I see it.

Smoothy
10-11-14, 19:46
She has a fun personality and great breasts! Believe it or not, she was a contestant on the TV show "Take me out Indonesia" in the past. She was much skinnier then, but if you do a youtube search on Take me out Indonesia season 3, episode 11, you will recognize her. I remember some guy saying most of the girls were 9's and 10's at Top Gun one night. If that girl had been in Top Gun on pretty much any given night, she would have been the best looking one there by far. (No way in hell were there a bunch of 9's and 10's in any place in Jakarta, let alone Top Gun or BATS.) I like that you rated her a 7+. I think that's a fair rating.

Sad Sam
10-12-14, 00:52
Given that it is hot in Jakarta, are shorts, T-shirts and sandals good enough for the places like BATS and CJs or does it help to wear pants and shirt? I presume that the massage places like Terminal Classic and Travel don't care either way.

Smoothy
10-12-14, 12:21
Given that it is hot in Jakarta, are shorts, T-shirts and sandals good enough for the places like BATS and CJs or does it help to wear pants and shirt? I presume that the massage places like Terminal Classic and Travel don't care either way.You will not be allowed in at BATS or CJS wearing short pants or sandals.

Sad Sam
10-12-14, 16:17
At Travel or Classic or other places, do the mamasans represent their own group of ladies or is it all common? Also, can you get 2 shots in the session (either the single lady for 60 min or 2 ladies for 90 min)? Finally, any of the ladies there available for some Greek play?

Thanks

Smoothy
10-12-14, 20:07
At Travel or Classic or other places, do the mamasans represent their own group of ladies or is it all common? Also, can you get 2 shots in the session (either the single lady for 60 min or 2 ladies for 90 min)? Finally, any of the ladies there available for some Greek play?

ThanksThey only represent their own group.

Depends on the girl.

Not likely at those places.

The sex you will get 90% of the time at those 2 places is [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor service star fish sex.

Fast Eddie 48
10-13-14, 04:04
They only represent their own group.

Depends on the girl.

Not likely at those places.

The sex you will get 90% of the time at those 2 places is [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor service star fish sex.To smoothy.

This place is going down hill fast girl attiude is not as good as it use be, I think the girl don't make much money here all girl push for tip most want extra 200 k for a 2nd shot or BBBJ not sure anal is possible never ask.

Fast eddie 48.

Menteng
10-13-14, 09:36
Not really, Menteng. I happen to know that FE travels a lot for tradeshows for work. Why would a guy who's NOT Fast Eddie call me on a cell phone and tell me HE's Fast Eddie? Geez dude, get a life and stop ragging on fellow mongers.Oh come on! I've got a good life already. Thanks to his reports I know now also that he travels for tradeshows. Maybe it was the same way you found out? It's just that, as far as I know, nobody has ever met him. In spite of his promises! Maybe you should read posting number 8841 in this thread again. And of course it was Fast Eddie who called you. Why not?!
An example:He knows that I will not be in Jakarta until december, and now he invites me to have a beer next week! So afterwards, like before, he would state that he invited me and that it was I who did not comply.
Congrats mate!
End of discussion.

Member #4410
10-13-14, 23:40
Oh come on! I've got a good life already. Thanks to his reports I know now also that he travels for tradeshows. Maybe it was the same way you found out? It's just that, as far as I know, nobody has ever met him. In spite of his promises! Maybe you should read posting number 8841 in this thread again. And of course it was Fast Eddie who called you. Why not?!
An example:He knows that I will not be in Jakarta until december, and now he invites me to have a beer next week! So afterwards, like before, he would state that he invited me and that it was I who did not comply.
Congrats mate!
End of discussion.

D-Cups has obviously not read Eddies posts of the last couple of years. If there is one poster who does little else but slag off other contributors it is Eddie. "Idiot" is one of his favourite words. In other threads Senior Members have reproached him about this habit (and about the way he treats women) but to little avail.

Eddie does little to compensate for this irksome behaviour. No Field Reports, no pictures, only tiresome repeats of what other people have already posted, but in an abominable writing style. It is high time Eddie produces something original.

Regards,

Ko.

Lost99
10-14-14, 00:34
If there is one poster who does little else but slag off other contributors it is Eddie... Eddie does little to compensate for this irksome behaviour. No Field Reports, no pictures, only tiresome repeats of what other people have already posted, but in an abominable writing style. It is high time Eddie produces something originalI don't get why you guys are so hell bent on picking on Eddie.

It's obvious that HE has a LIFE and a REAL job, and doesn't have the time to deal with a bunch of old retiree hacks here who demand HE produce 5 paragraph-long FRs with pics. So you guys tell him jump, and HE's supposed to respond "how high?

Also, his reports are not abnormal or irksome. They are concise, direct, and straight to the point. I'd rather his reports than those who waste my time with Penthouse forum type crap that take forever to read, when all I want to know is whether the girl / location / hotel was worth it. Why do you think HE's called "Fast" Eddie?

I've also messaged him a number of times in the past about different Cities / Countries (China, Thailand, Indo, HK, etc.); He's always responded, been courteous, and provided concise accurate info which has been helpful. There is no way He'd know the stuff he tells me from just copying other posts.

Not everyone is going to contribute to this forum the way you want to; everyone has their own style and format. But for you to say HE just slags off others and doesn't contribute - That's just way off base. He's a valuable Senior contributor, and you should give him the respect he deserves, not the 5th degree.

Member #4410
10-14-14, 01:00
I don't get why you guys are so hell bent on picking on Eddie.

It's obvious that HE has a LIFE and a REAL job, and doesn't have the time to deal with a bunch of old retiree hacks here who demand HE produce 5 paragraph-long FRs with pics. So you guys tell him jump, and HE's supposed to respond "how high?

Also, his reports are not abnormal or irksome. They are concise, direct, and straight to the point. I'd rather his reports than those who waste my time with Penthouse forum type crap that take forever to read, when all I want to know is whether the girl / location / hotel was worth it. Why do you think HE's called "Fast" Eddie?

I've also messaged him a number of times in the past about different Cities / Countries (China, Thailand, Indo, HK, etc.); He's always responded, been courteous, and provided concise accurate info which has been helpful. There is no way He'd know the stuff he tells me from just copying other posts.

Not everyone is going to contribute to this forum the way you want to; everyone has their own style and format. But for you to say HE just slags off others and doesn't contribute - That's just way off base. He's a valuable Senior contributor, and you should give him the respect he deserves, not the 5th degree.Read back in the Indonesia forum over the last couple of years.

Regards,

Ko.

Fast Eddie 48
10-14-14, 05:49
I don't get why you guys are so hell bent on picking on Eddie.

It's obvious that HE has a LIFE and a REAL job, and doesn't have the time to deal with a bunch of old retiree hacks here who demand HE produce 5 paragraph-long FRs with pics. So you guys tell him jump, and HE's supposed to respond "how high?

Also, his reports are not abnormal or irksome. They are concise, direct, and straight to the point. I'd rather his reports than those who waste my time with Penthouse forum type crap that take forever to read, when all I want to know is whether the girl / location / hotel was worth it. Why do you think HE's called "Fast" Eddie?

I've also messaged him a number of times in the past about different Cities / Countries (China, Thailand, Indo, HK, etc.); He's always responded, been courteous, and provided concise accurate info which has been helpful. There is no way He'd know the stuff he tells me from just copying other posts.

Not everyone is going to contribute to this forum the way you want to; everyone has their own style and format. But for you to say HE just slags off others and doesn't contribute - That's just way off base. He's a valuable Senior contributor, and you should give him the respect he deserves, not the 5th degree.To Lost99.

This 2 guys Menteng and Ko think they are forum Mafia I know their type very insecure people like to rag on other member to made himself look good, old ko post a few photo on the same girl over and over again from 5 yr ago from Maribaya and HE think HE is god get a life old fart.

Fast eddie 48.

Lost99
10-14-14, 07:26
Read back in the Indonesia forum over the last couple of years.

Regards,

Ko.Are you for real?

Ya, I'm really going to spend 10 hours reading this forum over the past few years just because you say so. Don't mistake me for one of your 2 cent *****s who jump at the snap of your fingers!

If you really want to prove your case, instead of the empty/baseless accusations you are currently making, why don't you just "Quote" Eddie's posts alongside the original posts that he allegedly copied, and display them side-by-side so we can compare? If you can't be bothered to do that, then stop clogging this thread with your crap and false accusations so we can get back to topic.

Of course, since you can't be bothered to do such work to proove your point, why would you expect me to?

Ikksman
10-14-14, 10:10
Oh come on! I've got a good life already. Thanks to his reports I know now also that he travels for tradeshows. Maybe it was the same way you found out? It's just that, as far as I know, nobody has ever met him. In spite of his promises! Maybe you should read posting number 8841 in this thread again. And of course it was Fast Eddie who called you. Why not?!
An example:He knows that I will not be in Jakarta until december, and now he invites me to have a beer next week! So afterwards, like before, he would state that he invited me and that it was I who did not comply.
Congrats mate!
End of discussion.It's just that, as far as I know, nobody has ever met him. I know ISG mongerers who have met FE48.

FE48 has previously invited me to meet him, but I was the one unexpectedly unavailable.

Yes, there has been been criticism by members who witnessed him feeling up the BBS girls (but at the invitation of the mama who just love displaying the pinkness of their girls' nipples), and there has has also been criticism of him pillorying other posters because of their BS posts (caused by his dislike of newbies being misled).

We (on the China forums) have been reading FE's unique posts for more than 10 years, and no experienced members ever question the veracity of his reports.

And, I respect his up to date postings on the very fluid situation that currently exists in China. This could not be copied from other posts (as there were no other current posts).

To quote one of the ISG members, who has met FE48 on a number of occasions:

"Just my POV' and "My 2 fen's worth".

Ikks.

Menteng
10-14-14, 10:48
It's just that, as far as I know, nobody has ever met him. I know ISG mongerers who have met FE48.

FE48 has previously invited me to meet him, but I was the one unexpectedly unavailable.

Yes, there has been been criticism by members who witnessed him feeling up the BBS girls (but at the invitation of the mama who just love displaying the pinkness of their girls' nipples), and there has has also been criticism of him pillorying other posters because of their BS posts (caused by his dislike of newbies being misled).

We (on the China forums) have been reading FE's unique posts for more than 10 years, and no experienced members ever question the veracity of his reports.

And, I respect his up to date postings on the very fluid situation that currently exists in China. This could not be copied from other posts (as there were no other current posts).

To quote one of the ISG members, who has met FE48 on a number of occasions:

"Just my POV' and "My 2 fen's worth".
Ikks.Maybe I should have written: . Nobody has ever met him in Jakarta.

Since it is the Jakarta thread, and it was about his FRs (?) in here, I thought it was obvious.
Apparently I need to spell it out for some people.

Master Diver II
10-14-14, 11:00
I often hear from about how much time wasting is involve in the dating scene. All I can say is I don't find it to be the case here. This is my second day here and I've just said bye to girl no. 2 so to speak and have 4 more lined up today. The key is to overbook yourself as not all the women are reliable (a Jakarta wise head once told me to always have a back up plan, then have a back up to your back up, and so on - Menteng please stand up). Stagger the timing so you do have time to inform them that you're otherwise detained by your client, should the earlier girl pan out. I try to make the meeting place near their work place or home, so they don't suffer unduly should there be a cancellation.

Yesterday, I met someone at Plaza Semanggi at 5:30 pm and we had a quick early dinner. By 7 pm, we were back at the hotel without a stitch of clothing on us (yes, my hotel is within walking distance. Even for Jakarta standards). She was dripping wet and gave a full PSE and GFE experience. Dear God this place is addictive. She was happy as long as she could lick and suck my dick and sit on it. Licks all the way from the tip of the dick to rimming and down the thighs. Maybe only a 6. 5 but a really nice person and well toned thanks to thrice weekly visits to the gym. At 10 pm I sent her off with 300 k rupiah for her taxi expenses (she stays in Pluit) and she was asking when she can come again. Dinner cost 170 k so pretty reasonable costs to my mind.

I then met up with one of the other Kuala Lumpur members who was in town. He took two friends to Hotel Travel - we actually got there almost midnight. The couches were relatively empty but there was still a decent selection around. It should be said that my friend is a Malaysian Indian and his buddies are Malaysian Chinese. We scouted all the way to the pool tables and came back to sit down in the open karaoke area. Yes, the music is just too loud, and makes it nearly impossible to have any conversation. The mummies immediately wanted to bring girls around, but as the seating area is just too dark, we all went to the sofa area to get a better look. There were a few 7's around, but not many. Somehow they ended up with two friendly girls (one 7 and one 6. 5) and asked to do a take out. Price was 1,050,000 rupiah for take out per girl until 9 am. My friend just took one girl upstairs for 350 k. He seemed happy today and one of the two guys who took a take out was too, but his buddy was less satisfied. I went out to make sure they got into an Express cab rather than the Sepakat cabs that were lurking outside then headed back for a rest. Travel is just not my scene, even though a couple of girls there were my spec so to speak. I've just been spoiled by the dating scene.

The girl I met for an early lunch today left at 4 pm, and wasn't interested in money at all. That American Grill in Semanggi is conceivably the crappiest food I've ever had in Jakarta, but we grabbed a takeaway Starbucks (to clear the taste from my mouth) before heading back to the hotel. 350 k for lunch and 80 k for Starbucks. Another 6. 5 but so tight and wet and cheeky as hell. She left with a kiss and a grin. After she left, I had a message from a 21 year old from Cupid who is clearly saying she wants to "enjoy" together but she'd appreciate something to "help" her too. Looks like a 7. 5 so I'm still contemplating. I'm off to get ready for a date at Pacific Place and another staggered for Plaza Senayan later. The first one has a driver so I'm pretty sure nothing will happen (at least this time around). I've got two more in reserve just in case but I'm really hoping for the 8 who's meeting me in Senayan. Fingers crossed. Time to shower.

MD II.

Master Diver II
10-14-14, 11:11
To Lost99.

This 2 guys Menteng and Ko think they are forum Mafia I know their type very insecure people like to rag on other member to made himself look good, old ko post a few photo on the same girl over and over again from 5 yr ago from Maribaya and HE think HE is god get a life old fart.

Fast eddie 48.


I don't get why you guys are so hell bent on picking on Eddie.

Not everyone is going to contribute to this forum the way you want to; everyone has their own style and format. But for you to say HE just slags off others and doesn't contribute - That's just way off base. He's a valuable Senior contributor, and you should give him the respect he deserves, not the 5th degree.Eddie I was trying to meet you to see what the fuss is about. I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and openly posted that it's my fault we're not meeting. Menteng also openly told you when He was going to be here and hoped to meet you then to put an end to all this. Lost, I haven't seen much from you here either for you to attack Ko and Menteng. I've gotten much more info from them than I ever got from Eddies posts on Jakarta but was trying to keep it neutral. Let's all stop this so Jackson doesn't have to step in and start deleting posts. Traveler, can you meet up with Eddie on the 17th or 18th? I heard you might be around.

MD II.

Smoothy
10-14-14, 12:52
old ko post a few photo on the same girl over and over again from 5 yr ago from Maribaya and HE think HE is god get a life old fart.

Fast eddie 48.Insulting pictures someone is posting? That's going a bit too far. I happen to like those pictures. I can't recall you ever posting any pictures at all.

Member #4410
10-14-14, 13:01
Are you for real?

Ya, I'm really going to spend 10 hours reading this forum over the past few years just because you say so. Don't mistake me for one of your 2 cent *****s who jump at the snap of your fingers!

If you really want to prove your case, instead of the empty/baseless accusations you are currently making, why don't you just "Quote" Eddie's posts alongside the original posts that he allegedly copied, and display them side-by-side so we can compare? If you can't be bothered to do that, then stop clogging this thread with your crap and false accusations so we can get back to topic.

Of course, since you can't be bothered to do such work to proove your point, why would you expect me to?I have no opinion on other countries, but I have noticed that in the Jakarta thread Eddie has not posted a single FR or a single picture. This is not a baseless accusation but a simple observation. His posts are not cut-and-paste jobs since nobody else writes in such abominable English. When I remarked on the absence of Jakarta FR's from him, he resorted to abusive PM's and posts.

If you take the trouble of reading back a few pages in the Jakarta thread you will notice who is the one using foul language and abuse, and who sticks to normal English.

In Eddie's eyes I am guilty of the mortal sin of asking him to post a genuine story, a picture or both.

Other senior members have compared him to Walter Mitty, which again resulted in abusive posts.

Check your facts before you post.

Regards,

Ko.

Ikksman
10-14-14, 13:34
Maybe I should have written: . Nobody has ever met him in Jakarta.

Since it is the Jakarta thread, and it was about his FRs (?) in here, I thought it was obvious.
Apparently I need to spell it out for some people.Of course it was obvious!

I wrote a polite, accurate, relevant, and I trust, informative post.

There is no need to insult me!

Ikks.

OsakaGin11
10-14-14, 15:10
I have read with great interest some very detailed reports by mongers on their trips to MP's such Alexis, Travel Hotel, Classic Terminal etc and I was wondering if these establishments accept credit cards such as Visa or is it a straight cash arrangement ?

I am planning a short first time visit to Jakarta this coming February and as a 1st timer to Jak. I would prefer not to be walking around the city at night with too much cash on me.

I must say that reading all of these posts has wetted my appetite for visiting Jak. and I am really looking forward to my visit in Feb.

While its early days for my arrangements yet, I must say that despite RTFF I am still a little confused as to what area and best mid range hotel ($40 - 60 a night) that best places me in the most central locale for the best MP's and freelance haunts such as Bats, CJ's etc

Cheers and thanks in advance

Traveler1234
10-14-14, 15:56
Eddie -- Traveler, can you meet up with Eddie on the 17th or 18th? I heard you might be around.

MD II.Unfortunately my trip has been delayed; not sure when I'll be in area. But I would certainly like to meet Fast Eddie. Whether in Jakarta or any other country.

I'm completely neutral on this subject, just wish someone would meet him face-to-face and stop all this nonsense, POV.

Member #4698
10-14-14, 16:42
I have read with great interest some very detailed reports by mongers on their trips to MP's such Alexis, Travel Hotel, Classic Terminal etc and I was wondering if these establishments accept credit cards such as Visa or is it a straight cash arrangement ?Credit Cards are readily accepted at Alexis and Malioboro. I don't know 1st hand about Classic or Travel, but I would assume so.

Smoothy
10-14-14, 16:51
While its early days for my arrangements yet, I must say that despite RTFF I am still a little confused as to what area and best mid range hotel ($40 - 60 a night) that best places me in the most central locale for the best MP's and freelance haunts such as Bats, CJ's etcewww.agoda.com

Bats is in hotel shangri-la, cj's is in hotel mulia (both will cost about 3 to 4 times what you are looking to spend). However, you can search those 2 hotels to get a reference and choose hotels close (if you want a place close to bats and cjs). The MP's are all the way across town, nowhere near CJs or Bats. If you want near the MP's, you can filter on Mangga Dua on the agoda site.

Lost99
10-14-14, 19:56
If there is one poster who does little else but slag off other contributors it is Eddie... No Field Reports, no pictures, only tiresome repeats of what other people have already posted, but in an abominable writing style. It is high time Eddie produces something original


His posts are not cut-and-paste jobs since nobody else writes in such abominable English. When I remarked on the absence of Jakarta FR's from him , he resorted to abusive PM's and posts....Check your facts before you post. I find it ironic that you are telling me to check my facts, when you are the one going back and forth on your facts and accusations.

First you say HE's slagging off others, and copying other's posts. Now you say HE's not "cutting and pasting" and not even posting any FR's!

Which is it for christ-sakes? Is HE copying others in which case he's posting reports, or is HE not posting reports? Both accusations you made contradict each other and make no sense, just like your accusations.

Member #4410
10-14-14, 20:33
I find it ironic that you are telling me to check my facts, when you are the one going back and forth on your facts and accusations.

First you say HE's slagging off others, and copying other's posts. Now you say HE's not "cutting and pasting" and not even posting any FR's!

Which is it for christ-sakes? Is HE copying others in which case he's posting reports, or is HE not posting reports? Both accusations you made contradict each other and make no sense, just like your accusations.Your name is appropriate.

Read your own post and you see that both quotes tell the same. Eddie takes, at least in the Jakarta thread, information already posted many times by others and reposts in his own words. That's not what is known as a Field Report. HE has not posted any pictures. When a poster reacts in the agressive way Eddie uses that usually is the halmark of someone who has been found out.

Now if you could kindly post something useful, please? That would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Ko.

Member #4410
10-14-14, 20:46
Unfortunately my trip has been delayed; not sure when I'll be in area. But I would certainly like to meet Fast Eddie. Whether in Jakarta or any other country.

I'm completely neutral on this subject, just wish someone would meet him face-to-face and stop all this nonsense, POV.The recent fuss was kick-started by Eddies hysterical reaction to a polite inquiry about the complete absence of Field Reports and pictures from him in the Jakarta thread.

In other threads (China) he appears to post useful information. Can't comment on that since I never visited China.

There have been some attempts to meet him but for various reasons these have all failed. Eddie is aiming mainly for me, since it appears I was the first one to notice thelack of useful posts in the Jakarta thread. After a number of hatemails and abusive posts I decided to award him with a place on my ignore list. A rare and special gift. Other senior members have also noted the lack of original content in Eddies posts, even today.

Regards,

Ko.

Golfinho
10-14-14, 22:35
members have also noted the lack of original content in Eddies posts, even today.Conclude the man cannot articulate in the English language and let it go at that. You can't expect entertainment value everywhere. And what more can what you expect from this guy: all these trips to Jakarta and all he does is go to hotel travel and classic and places like that again and again. Come on, whatever more unoriginal is there you don't need to know.

Ikksman
10-14-14, 23:09
If I ever wanted to become a troll and bait posters for fun and amusement, this forum would be the ideal place to visit.

Ikks.

Lost99
10-14-14, 23:34
Read your own post and you see that both quotes tell the same. Your ignorance speaks for itself here. You clearly contradict yourself and too ignorant to realize.



Eddie takes, at least in the Jakarta thread, information already posted many times by others and reposts in his own words. That's not what is known as a Field Report. Still waiting for you to proove this. As always you make lazy accusations, and then tell others to read the last 5 years of this thread, instead of doing proper due diligence and showing us what was copied (you remind me of an armchair QB or backseat driver BTW). Also, who says a Field report needs pictures and all? To me any information, be it 1 or 2 useful sentences, adds to this forum more than your unfound complaints and accusations of contributing members. I don't see the moderator complaining of his FR's, who died and made you God of FRs?


Now if you could kindly post something useful, please? That would be much appreciated.After you. Why don't you post something useful instead of lazy accusations - since you clearly are not gonna show us which posts he allegedly copied. Why don't you enlighten me show me what a proper FR is then so we may all write such brilliant FRs that meet your high standards?

KiJang
10-15-14, 02:51
She has a fun personality and great breasts! Believe it or not, she was a contestant on the TV show "Take me out Indonesia" in the past. She was much skinnier then, but if you do a youtube search on Take me out Indonesia season 3, episode 11, you will recognize her. I remember some guy saying most of the girls were 9's and 10's at Top Gun one night. If that girl had been in Top Gun on pretty much any given night, she would have been the best looking one there by far. (No way in hell were there a bunch of 9's and 10's in any place in Jakarta, let alone Top Gun or BATS.) I like that you rated her a 7+. I think that's a fair rating.Yes! It's her And she does have a fun personality. Thanks for info on the TV Show. Maybe now I can now say that I have slept with an Indo TV starlet?

Charlie Horse
10-15-14, 03:23
Yes! It's her And she does have a fun personality. Thanks for info on the TV Show. Maybe now I can now say that I have slept with an Indo TV starlet?Which one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKNwnLMmn5o

Smoothy
10-15-14, 04:26
Yes! It's her And she does have a fun personality. Thanks for info on the TV Show. Maybe now I can now say that I have slept with an Indo TV starlet?Yes you can. Well done! Next you can try for Juwanita, Jupe or Luna Maya.

Menteng
10-15-14, 09:40
Of course it was obvious!

I wrote a polite, accurate, relevant, and I trust, informative post.

There is no need to insult me!

Ikks.You were referring other places than Jakarta while quoting my words in bold letters. So I couldnt help to make that assumption.
BTW, even your contribution to the discussion is a "hear-say" one. But, I´m sorry if you feel insulted and I apologize for that.

Menteng
10-15-14, 10:25
I would like to put an end to the discussion concerning him, because he is not worth it. He is on my ignore list now, so I will not read his childish tirade again when someone asks for more facts.

UsPete
10-15-14, 15:17
I would like to put an end to the discussion concerning him, because he is not worth it. He is on my ignore list now, so I will not read his childish tirade again when someone asks for more facts.Everytime I visit this thread my browser seems to magically redirect me to the CraigsList Indo. Rants and Raves page, is there a way of stopping it?

On another note anyone been following that "bule hunter" girl in the indomedia. She's probably been with more members of this forum than I've had breakfasts. She's got quite a few tattoos and tramp stamps on her back from my distant blurry memory.

Smoothy
10-15-14, 16:01
Pete, please share pics. She doesn't look too great now with that short hair. But I could see how if she had long hair and was about 5 years younger, she could look good. She does look to have a decent body. On her facebook she has a big tattoo of Jesus on her back. I've definitely never been with her or ever even seen her around.

Member #4410
10-15-14, 16:38
<SNIP>
After you. Why don't you post something useful instead of lazy accusations - since you clearly are not gonna show us which posts he allegedly copied. Why don't you enlighten me show me what a proper FR is then so we may all write such brilliant FRs that meet your high standards?Your application for a place on my ignore list is under consideration.

As for your question: July 2014, both Jakarta thread and Photo thread.

Regards,

Ko.

Member #4410
10-15-14, 16:55
I would like to put an end to the discussion concerning him, because he is not worth it. He is on my ignore list now, so I will not read his childish tirade again when someone asks for more facts.This helps up to a point. He's been on my ignore list for months but still sometimes hatemail slips through. And of course when people react with a quote his postings still come through.

The uplifting side of this brief episode is that this forum sees his posts now and then, but he has to live with his own nasty character 24/7. ;-)

Regards,

Ko.

Offshore Swell
10-16-14, 12:15
Well while it looks like my colleagues here are involved in a about of keyboard warfare, I thought I would slip on over to Malioboro and see what the fuss was all about.

For those who don't already know, this is one of those iconic Jakarta establishments that cater to those of us who punt. Most of these mainstream joints seem to have a formula for dealing with Bules where the subtle hassle and push starts early. Malioboro was no different. My first goal whenever I go somewhere new is to try to appear nonchalant but its pretty difficult for bules in a place for first time to do this. Management seem to smell this.

So observation no 1 is that all that extra money that the girls are making may not be necessarily good for them. A few extra pounds around the midriff seemed like the norm. As were an abundance of enhanced bosoms of which your correspondent is never particularly enthusiastic.

So papasan steers me towards the girl HE says is good at massage as OS has a sore back (probably from all the humping that OS partook in yesterday). After a beer I succumb to her reasonable looks and we book. 800 K for the service.

Here's the rub. There was nothing in any way about this girl that was remarkable. After she finished admiring herself in the mirror OS asks her to order some water which she slowly accomplishes. Nice breasts with inverted nipples and a little extra pudding on the midriff. Then starts the hassle for tips and we weren't even out the shower. Nanti nanti ok.

So down to the bed and I explain to her in Bahasa that when a girl starts hassling for tips straight away my alarm bells go off and it is an indicator that the service will generally be crap. She got this and so proceeded with an OK massage. The water finally turns up along with a packet of cigarettes for the girl even though she hasn't a hint of being a smoker about her smell. The cigarretes went back.

After a period of massage we change to the other activity and the nego starts. But there was nothing sophisticated about it. The condom blowjob hostage taking was her first move. Fortunately your correspondent is an old hand at these negotiating strategies and offered an instant parry. Needless to say I Got what I wanted with some Malioboro priced tips and pretty soon she is lubing up. Theres something I quite like when the indo girls spit in their hands to provide the lube although not always recommended.

In Summary it was all OK, but just OK. I got a far better GFE yesterday in my usual haunt for a quarter of this with a beter looking girl. 19 yo, sweet as pie and she just lifted her leg up and let OS slide it in, sans condom.

Thats what I really like about Jakarta.

Enjoy.

OS.

Possessed Seoul
10-16-14, 15:30
I see her at my gym from time to time. If you had a thing for boys, you could flip her over and it would be much the same, as she is painfully thin. She's got a face like a bulldog licking [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off a nettle as well.

The story is she was married to a Canadian who left her. She then tried to kill herself quite publicly, so she is out to get her revenge on bule kind. I know more than a few Indonesian women married to bule2 who would quite happily skin her alive for what she has written.




On another note anyone been following that "bule hunter" girl in the indomedia. She's probably been with more members of this forum than I've had breakfasts. She's got quite a few tattoos and tramp stamps on her back from my distant blurry memory.

Pipe Layer99
10-16-14, 16:51
......... we book. 800 K for the service....

After a period of massage we change to the other activity and the nego starts. But there was nothing sophisticated about it. The condom blowjob hostage taking was her first move. Fortunately your correspondent is an old hand at these negotiating strategies and offered an instant parry. Needless to say I Got what I wanted with some Malioboro priced tips and pretty soon she is lubing up.
OS.Thanks for the informative post. I will be making my fist trip next month. Still doing my homework and taking notes. At Malioboro, since you booked with the girl for 800, that includes everything (massage, BJ, and FS) right?

When you say the negotiations start, you are only referring to the CBJ to BBBJ right?

Or did she want tips for the FS?

Offshore Swell
10-17-14, 01:46
Correct! By any standard, for 800 k the BJ should automatically be sans condom. She makes a bold first move when she rolls out the condom for a BJ.


Thanks for the informative post. I will be making my fist trip next month. Still doing my homework and taking notes. At Malioboro, since you booked with the girl for 800, that includes everything (massage, BJ, and FS) right?

When you say the negotiations start, you are only referring to the CBJ to BBBJ right?

Or did she want tips for the FS?

MasBule
10-17-14, 01:50
Covered BJ. Its just not cricket.


Correct! By any standard, for 800 k the BJ should automatically be sans condom. She makes a bold first move when she rolls out the condom for a BJ.

Smoothy
10-17-14, 01:55
Correct! By any standard, for 800 k the BJ should automatically be sans condom. She makes a bold first move when she rolls out the condom for a BJ.I think the covered BJ is becoming the standard at Malioboro rather than the exception.

Hilo77
10-17-14, 02:35
I think the covered BJ is becoming the standard at Malioboro rather than the exception.That has certainly been my experience and is why, when combined with the price hike for locals, I haven't been back despite once being a regular.

There is simply no reason to visit Malioboro these days, it reminds me of the places I used to visit in desperation when I lived in Australia, where the lady would don surgical gloves to examine your member under a bright light prior to getting down to business, which was always perfunctory and without any sense of fun, that's not far off where Malioboro is headed.

There are a gazillion better and cheaper options on the Jakarta market than that place.

Member #4698
10-17-14, 02:41
In Summary it was all OK, but just OK. I got a far better GFE yesterday in my usual haunt for a quarter of this with a better looking girl. 19 yo, sweet as pie and she just lifted her leg up and let OS slide it in, sans condom.
OS.


I think the covered BJ is becoming the standard at Malioboro rather than the exception.I was not impressed with the quality or attitude of the standard Malioboro mamasan girls when I was at Malioboro either, BUT I was very impressed with the quality and attitude of the black bra and thong floor dancer / table top girls. Read my trip report for more details. Here is a short quote: "The black bra dancers were all in a class well above the 800,000 idr to 1,000,000 idr Malioboro mamasan girls". Suffice it to say, I can't wait to go back to Malioboro and play around with these sex tigresses as soon as I return to Jakarta. For me, "Malioboro was like Alexis on steroids".

The price for tabletop dancers was twofold: 1) the equivalent of 20 shot drinks or 50,000 idr x 20 = 1 mill idr plus 2) 1. 2 mil idr for the girl for a grand total of 2. 2 mil idr. Was it worth it? I think so based on the looks, attitude and performance of my girl and also considering what average looks and mediocrity of service OS is reporting for 800,000 idr. It seems like there are two solutions to this dilemma: pay up and take the better quality Malioboro dancers and have great time or ... where is "your usual haunt ?" OS, with "sweet as pie" better looking girls for 200idr. ie. go somewhere else.

Smoothy
10-17-14, 02:49
"sweet as pie" better looking girls for 200,000 idr?That was 1998.

As mediocre as the service is at Malioboro most times, it is far superior to what you get at Hotel Travel or Hotel Classic. The price is about 3 times as much, but I prefer Malioboro. At least I don't have to listen to local Indo guys singing Karaoke there in the bar area.

As Hilo said, there are many different alternatives that are superior to all 3. But of those 3, I prefer Malioboro.

Smoothy
10-17-14, 02:52
it reminds me of the places I used to visit in desperation when I lived in Australia, where the lady would don surgical gloves to examine your member under a bright light prior to getting down to business, which was always perfunctory and without any sense of funMy one and only trip to the famous Chicken Ranch outside Las Vegas was like that. It was a traumatizing experience.

Member #4698
10-17-14, 03:07
That was 1998.
I believe the 200,000 idr price was something OS was reporting on currently in 2014 somewhere in Jakarta that HE called his "usual haunt" for a quarter the price, not at Malioboro. Did I misinterpret what HE wrote?

I am with you, though, on Malioboro 2014. I like the place. If I spotted a cute regular girl there and she smiled at me, I would probably give her a try, but I am really hooked on the dancers and don't want to go down in quality. I am kind of skeptical when someone tells me there are great girls for a quarter of the price somewhere else. 200,00 idr for real quality in Jakarta today seems a tad low. I am sure ex pats have plenty of opportunities to score great girls for less than retail though. That is one of the benefits of being there.

Offshore Swell
10-17-14, 03:18
What the €#.

Its 9. 16 AM and the posts are flooding in. Don't you expats do anything when you go to work?

Get back to work you bums.

(While I just check my nets).

OS.

Suwon
10-17-14, 18:09
...it reminds me of the places I used to visit in desperation when I lived in Australia, where the lady would don surgical gloves to examine your member under a bright light prior to getting down to business, which was always perfunctory and without any sense of fun, that's not far off where Malioboro is headed.I hear that! I'd totally forgotten about the old days when they'd get all CSI on your tadger and inspect it like a crime scene before a covered blow job! I think I'd repressed the memory!

Pipe Layer99
10-17-14, 20:01
There is simply no reason to visit Malioboro these days ...
There are a gazillion better and cheaper options on the Jakarta market than that place.Man don't say that. I'm planning my 1st trip for next month. I will stay for about 10 days. Here is my line-up of places to visit: (yes in descending order).

Alexis
Malioboro
Classic
Travel
Bats
CJs
Oasis
Delta
My Place Spa
And Block M (gotta see it at least once)
I wanted to go to Red Square but I read it was closed now / getting renovated.

I have already read back a ton of pages over the past month. What else would you guys add to the list?
(Keep in mind I only have 10 days)

John Aldrich
10-17-14, 20:23
Man don't say that. I'm planning my 1st trip for next month. I will stay for about 10 days. Here is my line-up of places to visit: (yes in descending order).

Alexis
Malioboro
Classic
Travel
Bats
CJs
Oasis
Delta
My Place Spa
And Block M (gotta see it at least once)
I wanted to go to Red Square but I read it was closed now / getting renovated.

I have already read back a ton of pages over the past month. What else would you guys add to the list?
(Keep in mind I only have 10 days)Your schedule is pretty tight. Do not miss out on Maribaya at Hotel Melawai in Blok M. Hope you make it to all the best. Have fun. Cheers.

MasBule
10-18-14, 02:42
Hey bro definately do Malioboro.

And everyone has to take a vietnamese girl in her swimsuit into the open air rooftop pool in Alexis at least once in their lifetime.

Your list below covers all the usual places. Some others to do some research on, depening on your age / inclination etc.

- Hardcore nightclubs, where mamasans oporate. Research Milles, Golden Crown etc etc.

- Classy nightclubs, where you will find classy working girls. Research Dragonfly, Loewy (its a bar not a nightclub) and the SCBD area.

- red light areas, like kalijodo (not been there do your own RTFF).

- Skye and Cloud. If you can find a wingman. Classy rooftop bars where you can meet girls, assuming your a classy white dude and don't have a face like a smashed crab.

- any number of dangut bars across the city. A few along Wahid hasyim, and 2 famous ones on jl Blora. Lone Star and Osmoro, research 'dangut music' - for many westerners they either love or hate it, but the indo chicks seem to dig it. You will certainly have an interesting expericne there and pickup very very easily, even if you were to have a face like a smashed crab.

- make sure when you goto to malioboro. You visit 'malio' club out the back.

- ditto for alexis, do 'foreplay' bar bottom floor for a little visual treat before going to top floor for the real action.

- delta / my place / fortune. Same shitty service.

- you can do blokm and maribaya (hotel melawai) in 1 night.

- ditto cj's and bats if either one isn't going-off.


Man don't say that. I'm planning my 1st trip for next month. I will stay for about 10 days. Here is my line-up of places to visit: (yes in descending order).

Alexis
Malioboro
Classic
Travel
Bats
CJs
Oasis
Delta
My Place Spa
And Block M (gotta see it at least once)
I wanted to go to Red Square but I read it was closed now / getting renovated.

I have already read back a ton of pages over the past month. What else would you guys add to the list?
(Keep in mind I only have 10 days)

Hilo77
10-18-14, 04:56
Man don't say that. I'm planning my 1st trip for next month. I will stay for about 10 days. Here is my line-up of places to visit: (yes in descending order).

Alexis
Malioboro
Classic
Travel
Bats
CJs
Oasis
Delta
My Place Spa
And Block M (gotta see it at least once)
I wanted to go to Red Square but I read it was closed now / getting renovated.

I have already read back a ton of pages over the past month. What else would you guys add to the list?
(Keep in mind I only have 10 days)If you do Alexis there is really no need to do Malioboro, Classic or Travel as they are just much of a muchness just in descending order of classiness. If you like Alexis and are comfortable with the cost stick with it you are not likely to find anything better in the other three.

Oasis isn't bad for what you pay for, worth an early-evening visit, the topless dancers get going from 8 pm on Wednesday through Saturday.

BATs and CJ's, overpriced drinks and over-priced women surrounded by amateur hour middle-aged bules on expense accounts.

Delta, good for a pleasant if somewhat expensive mid-afternoon rub and tug but nothing exceptional.

Blok M, cheaper version of BATs and CJ's with concomitant quality of women and bules, some hotties hanging around Top Gun, good for a BJ from a dancer in Dee's (actually just the sixth letter of the alphabet but autocorrect won't allow that) Place VIP room but it's a grubby scene.

Can't speak about the club scene as it isn't my cup of tea.

The dangdut bars of Blora as suggested below might be worth a laugh and I'm glad I was reminded of them as I have never actually been there and I've now made a mental note to check them out.

If you're on the dating sites then you wouldn't go far wrong lining up some friends to pass the afternoon and evening.

Hilo77
10-18-14, 05:08
- red light areas, like kalijodo (not been there do your own RTFF).

If you've got to do a Vietnamese girl in the rooftop of Alexis at least once in your life, then you've got to also go to the other end of the scale and do Kalijodo once too. Next stop after Kalijodo is a blue tarpaulin tent alongside the rail tracks at Manggerai.

Actually don't bother, I was taken by an ojek driver once with great promises of the carnal pleasures I would find there. I ended up supping a can of warm Beer Bintang in a little shack by the side of the street and having a chat with the mamasan before politely making my excuses and leaving. Don't get me wrong they were all friendly enough, and it was worth checking out how the other half lives and fornicates, but it just wasn't really what I had in mind.

Pipe Layer99
10-18-14, 12:46
Your schedule is pretty tight. Do not miss out on Maribaya at Hotel Melawai in Blok M. Hope you make it to all the best. Have fun. Cheers.Yeah, I have that one in my notes. Thanks. I left it off the list due to some previous reports on the place. When I am in the southern area down near blok m and CJs, I might stop in. I figure I will check out 1 place per day, or more if the selections are not up to par at the first one. But we know the plans always change. I'm giving myself 10 days to have fun in a new city. I've been traveling in Asia (Thai, Korea, PI) for the past year so I don't need to go hard everyday. Most of the time in Thailand. I'm getting bored with the scene here. Time for some new tang. So I have finally decided to get over and check out Indonesia because of the variety of choices. I'm probably going to visit Alexis first. I want to try the beautiful selections / top picks they have there.

Thanks.

Pipe Layer99
10-18-14, 13:36
Hey bro definately do Malioboro. And everyone has to take a vietnamese girl in her swimsuit into the open air rooftop pool in Alexis at least once in their lifetime.
Your list below covers all the usual places. Some others to do some research on, depening on your age / inclination etc.
- Hardcore nightclubs, where mamasans oporate. Research Milles, Golden Crown etc etc.
- Classy nightclubs, where you will find classy working girls. Research Dragonfly, Loewy (its a bar not a nightclub) and the SCBD area.
- red light areas, like kalijodo (not been there do your own RTFF).
- Skye and Cloud. If you can find a wingman. Classy rooftop bars where you can meet girls, assuming your a classy white dude and don't have a face like a smashed crab.
- any number of dangut bars across the city. A few along Wahid hasyim, and 2 famous ones on jl Blora. Lone Star and Osmoro, research 'dangut music' - for many westerners they either love or hate it, but the indo chicks seem to dig it. You will certainly have an interesting expericne there and pickup very very easily, even if you were to have a face like a smashed crab.
- make sure when you goto to malioboro. You visit 'malio' club out the back.
- ditto for alexis, do 'foreplay' bar bottom floor for a little visual treat before going to top floor for the real action.
- delta / my place / fortune. Same shitty service.
- you can do blokm and maribaya (hotel melawai) in 1 night.
- ditto cj's and bats if either one isn't going-off.A Viet girl is definitely on my to do list since I never tried one. I want some Chinese too. I tasted some Chinese 5-6 times back in the states, but never over here in Asia.

I have gotten most of my info from here and the Jakarta100 bars site.

Yep, CJ and Bats same night. Get to see them both since they are relatively close and without the added hassle of traffic.

I am interested in the dangut bars. Thanks for that tip HHM.

Pipe Layer99
10-18-14, 14:16
If you do Alexis there is really no need to do Malioboro, Classic or Travel as they are just much of a muchness just in descending order of classiness. If you like Alexis and are comfortable with the cost stick with it you are not likely to find anything better in the other three.
Oasis isn't bad for what you pay for, worth an early-evening visit, the topless dancers get going from 8 pm on Wednesday through Saturday.
BATs and CJ's, overpriced drinks and over-priced women surrounded by amateur hour middle-aged bules on expense accounts.
Delta, good for a pleasant if somewhat expensive mid-afternoon rub and tug but nothing exceptional.
Blok M, cheaper version of BATs and CJ's with concomitant quality of women and bules, some hotties hanging around Top Gun, good for a BJ from a dancer in Dee's (actually just the sixth letter of the alphabet but autocorrect won't allow that) Place VIP room but it's a grubby scene.
If you're on the dating sites then you wouldn't go far wrong lining up some friends to pass the afternoon and evening.Thats why I want to check out Alexis first. I was to see the top shelf ladies to set the bar. Since it will be my first visit, I won't mind dropping 8 k to 1. 2 m for a smoking hot babe. But I don't want to donate that much every night.
I still have to visit Malioboro and Classic to try the Indo ladies there and at a much better rate. Then I can get a feel on what places and which ladies I like better. I will admit that I am spoiled after being in Thailand for 5 straight months. Lots of fun with the girls at an average cost of 31 US dollars for 'All Night' ;-). I figure that roughly equates to 372,000 in Jakarta (but that's only for hour).

I will cross off Delta. No need for a rub and a tug. I will add a few clubs instead.

I appreciate your input.

Smoothy
10-18-14, 17:50
Thats why I want to check out Alexis first. I was to see the top shelf ladies to set the bar. Since it will be my first visit, I won't mind dropping 8 k to 1. 2 m for a smoking hot babe.Good luck with 800k at Alexis. That is the price at Malioboro, and not for a "top shelf" lady either. Alexis is more expensive. If you take a Viet girl for an hour at Alexis, it will end up costing you no less than $250 usd by the time you get hit by the 21% tax on the way out and tip. My last visit there I took a Viet girl and had a bottle of vodka and soft drinks. The bill was about $500 usd.

The cheapest girl at Alexis is 1.2 million for a local indo girl and that is before tip, spa charge, and the 21% tax.

You have visited Thailand it seems. Alexis isn't much different from the higher end massage places in Bangkok where they charge 5,000 to 8,000 baht for a nice girl depending on the perceived quality of the girl.

Pipe Layer99
10-18-14, 19:03
Good luck with 800k at Alexis. That is the price at Malioboro, and not for a "top shelf" lady either. Alexis is more expensive. If you take a Viet girl for an hour at Alexis, it will end up costing you no less than $250 usd by the time you get hit by the 21% tax on the way out and tip. My last visit there I took a Viet girl and had a bottle of vodka and soft drinks. The bill was about $500 usd.
The cheapest girl at Alexis is 1.2 million for a local indo girl and that is before tip, spa charge, and the 21% tax. The damn auto pilot on here gets me sometimes. I needed a hard return after my second sentence.

I want to visit Alexis first so I can see and bang a top shelf girl or two. That will set the bar for me (seeing that this is supposed to be the best spa in town). Afterwards, I can compare the talent to the other ladies I find. Thanks for making sure I got the pricing correct.

I thought the Viet girls at Alexis were about 2 m + tax and shit = $200 US. Either way, I'm still going check it out. Start there and then visit the other places for Indo ladies. I have been contemplating this trip for over a year. Time to do it.

Sad Sam
10-19-14, 15:38
I heard that near Blok M, there is a Japanese section where there are some karaoke places. It looks like they are expensive compared to what you get. Somewhere I read about a few Korean karaoke places. Especially one called Gangnam karaoke or some such. Anyone know any thing about where it is or what the SOP is?

Thanks

Smoothy
10-20-14, 02:10
I heard that near Blok M, there is a Japanese section where there are some karaoke places. It looks like they are expensive compared to what you get. Somewhere I read about a few Korean karaoke places. Especially one called Gangnam karaoke or some such. Anyone know any thing about where it is or what the SOP is?

ThanksI actually like the Japanese karaoke places behind hotel Melawai. They aren't so expensive relative to the upscale places in town. It's rare a non-asian goes to those places though and they act a little surprised when you do. I find the girls won't normally have sex in the room or go home with you that night, but will meet up with you on their day off. There are some stunners in those clubs.

I think Gangnam is in Grand Wijaya Center (not far from Dharmawangsa) next to Fortune massage. I do believe you can have sex in the rooms there, but I've never tried it. The people I know who went there seemed to like it.

There are tons and tons of karaoke places in town. If you see a Japanese or Korean guy in town with a really hot Indonesian girlfriend, you can pretty much be guaranteed he met her in a karaoke bar.

Smoothy
10-20-14, 02:18
I want to visit Alexis first so I can see and bang a top shelf girl.You want a "top shelf girl? You might want to try Hartono's. Hartono's is near Hotel Dharmawangsa. It's just a house with girls, but the girls have the reputation of being some of the best looking in town. They are not hard core hookers who get drilled 5 times a night like the girls at Alexis. You can get there by grabbing a SilverBird Taxi, those guys always seem to know where it is. A bluebird taxi or one of those cheap taxis will not know where it is. The way it works is the taxi talks to the security guy, HE lets you in, and you go inside the house. There will be about 10 girls to choose from. At least 2 of the girls will be stunners (although I have been there where I didn't think there were any stunners and just left. But I have done that at Alexis in the past as well). You can take them to your hotel to have sex, but cannot have sex on location there. I think you get 3 hours with them if I remember correctly. And that is 3 hours from the time you leave the place. I don't know the price these days, but it used to be 3 million (I believe).

Hilo77
10-20-14, 05:57
I actually like the Japanese karaoke places behind hotel Melawai. They aren't so expensive relative to the upscale places in town. It's rare a non-asian goes to those places though and they act a little surprised when you do. I find the girls won't normally have sex in the room or go home with you that night, but will meet up with you on their day off. There are some stunners in those clubs.

I think Gangnam is in Grand Wijaya Center (not far from Dharmawangsa) next to Fortune massage. I do believe you can have sex in the rooms there, but I've never tried it. The people I know who went there seemed to like it.

There are tons and tons of karaoke places in town. If you see a Japanese or Korean guy in town with a really hot Indonesian girlfriend, you can pretty much be guaranteed he met her in a karaoke bar.I was entertaining a non-pro but nonetheless obliging young lady the other day and she said she would like to go to a karaoke, well being an old Blok hand I immediately thought of Little Tokyo behind Melawai so I parked in BloK M Plaza and took her for a stroll around there to decide which one we wanted. I always remembered the karaoke joints there with the line-ups of very attractive girls. I went a couple of times in the past with female friends (you have to pay to take girls in, which was a bit embarrassing when I took a work colleague who seemed to feel she had inadvertently joined the sex business) anyway after 20 odd minutes of fruitless searching I couldn't find one place. I asked a parkir man who told me they were all closed. If I wanted karaoke I would have to go to one of the Inul Vista-type family karaokes, in other words the sort of place that don't have private bathrooms and have windows on the doors, not quite what I was looking for.

I'd be interested to know if this is the case.

FreebieFan
10-20-14, 07:28
I was entertaining a non-pro but nonetheless obliging young lady the other day and she said she would like to go to a karaoke, well being an old Blok hand I immediately thought of Little Tokyo behind Melawai so I parked in BloK M Plaza and took her for a stroll around there to decide which one we wanted. I always remembered the karaoke joints there with the line-ups of very attractive girls. I went a couple of times in the past with female friends (you have to pay to take girls in,

.Back in time when I was on my first few Jakarta trips I got in a cab and asked for Blok M. Alighted when the driver said " we are here" and it was streets of small japanese looking kareoke places with indeed some very presentable ladies. I even went inside one and had a beer with a very attractive nymph but didn't stay as I was on a hunt for the " proper Blok M". . which was a bit of a letdown after the bright lights of " kareoketown". Always intended to get back there as the girls were all fun, happy, smiling, slim and very tasty indeed.

Fast Eddie 48
10-20-14, 11:05
Your schedule is pretty tight. Do not miss out on Maribaya at Hotel Melawai in Blok M. Hope you make it to all the best. Have fun. Cheers.To John.

I drop by last night This place is going down hill fast the last few time I was there all lady is old and over weight 600 k,I just have a drink talk to some lady they all speak good english there are no customer there I was the only one so I left take a cab when to classic hotel.

Fast eddie 48.

Offshore Swell
10-20-14, 12:20
To John.

I drop by last night This place is going down hill fast the last few time I was there all lady is old and over weight 600 k,I just have a drink talk to some lady they all speak good english there are no customer there I was the only one so I left take a cab when to classic hotel.

Fast eddie 48.Well done Fast Eddie, this is just the sort of info we need more of here. You must have had a really exciting night. Hotel Melawei then Classic. You really are a trailblazer.

I propose that Eddies report deserves to go in the ROD everybody OK with that?

Joel Goodsen
10-20-14, 13:03
Fast Eddie,

I am in Jakarta at the moment and as to help end the debate whether Fast Eddie is a real or a virtual traveler to Jakarta, I invited Eddie for a drink when he would be here. He has my Indonesian phone number. Maribaya is around the corner for me, definitely a place that I would have loved to meet up over a beer. However yesterday he told me HE was still in Bandung? So where are you now Fast Eddie?

Offshore Swell
10-20-14, 13:42
Well done Fast Eddie, this is just the sort of info we need more of here. You must have had a really exciting night. Hotel Melawei then Classic. You really are a trailblazer.

I propose that Eddies report deserves to go in the ROD everybody OK with that?Better still Eddie, because you are such an incredibly informative sort of a guy, maybe you should just nominate all your own posts for ROD like some other posters do. Yours could be the first for mindless regurgitation of known facts.

OS.

OsakaGin11
10-20-14, 16:27
Credit Cards are readily accepted at Alexis and Malioboro. I don't know 1st hand about Classic or Travel, but I would assume so.Cheers for that.

OsakaGin11
10-20-14, 16:28
www.agoda.com

Bats is in hotel shangri-la, cj's is in hotel mulia (both will cost about 3 to 4 times what you are looking to spend). However, you can search those 2 hotels to get a reference and choose hotels close (if you want a place close to bats and cjs). The MP's are all the way across town, nowhere near CJs or Bats. If you want near the MP's, you can filter on Mangga Dua on the agoda site.Thanks for the advice too.

MasBule
10-21-14, 02:39
Nice info Smoothy, that's the sort of little hidden gems this website is meant for.

I'll keep that on my todo list, when the bonus comes in.


You want a "top shelf girl? You might want to try Hartono's. Hartono's is near Hotel Dharmawangsa. It's just a house with girls, but the girls have the reputation of being some of the best looking in town. They are not hard core hookers who get drilled 5 times a night like the girls at Alexis. You can get there by grabbing a SilverBird Taxi, those guys always seem to know where it is. A bluebird taxi or one of those cheap taxis will not know where it is. The way it works is the taxi talks to the security guy, HE lets you in, and you go inside the house. There will be about 10 girls to choose from. At least 2 of the girls will be stunners (although I have been there where I didn't think there were any stunners and just left. But I have done that at Alexis in the past as well). You can take them to your hotel to have sex, but cannot have sex on location there. I think you get 3 hours with them if I remember correctly. And that is 3 hours from the time you leave the place. I don't know the price these days, but it used to be 3 million (I believe).

MasBule
10-21-14, 02:40
And the venue name is changed on the credit card statment, an added bonus.


Cheers for that.

Master Diver II
10-21-14, 03:21
You want a "top shelf girl? You might want to try Hartono's. Hartono's is near Hotel Dharmawangsa. I think you get 3 hours with them if I remember correctly. And that is 3 hours from the time you leave the place. I don't know the price these days, but it used to be 3 million (I believe).
They used to be three million overnight back in 2003, then it changed to three hours a few years later. I would have thought the price has gone up by now. The other thing is that while they take credit cards (I used an AMEX there) the name of the place appears like an expensive restaurant on your bill, so no awkward situations there. I would have assumed they maintained this.


I heard that near Blok M, there is a Japanese section where there are some karaoke places. It looks like they are expensive compared to what you get. Somewhere I read about a few Korean karaoke places. Especially one called Gangnam karaoke or some such. Anyone know any thing about where it is or what the SOP is?
ThanksBack when I used to do the karaoke scene, I was told (and it did turn out to be accurate) that Korean karaoke places have action and you can take them back too with a direct payment to the establishment and a tip to the girl in the morning; Japanese karaokes are more getting to know the girl and almost making her your "GF" who will meet you on her day off or after the place closes. It's purely elective and they have no compulsion to follow you if they don't want to. It's still financial but possibly a more GFE feel perhaps. You should take note that if you start "going out" with one of the girls, the others in the joint will tend to avoid you because you are as much "hers" as much as she is your girl.

Sorry Sam, I know you asked about some girls' numbers on my PM. The trouble with doing the dating game is that unless they specifically tell you they don't mind their numbers being passed to a friend, it's a no no I'm afraid. There was even one girl who mentioned that she was in it for commercial reasons, yet she bristled when I suggested I pass her number to my friend as it was more his style than mine. Generally my profile and the chats leading up to meeting the girls eliminate most of this type as it's not really what I'm looking for.

MD II.

Frankie555
10-22-14, 03:55
You want a "top shelf girl? You might want to try Hartono's. Hartono's is near Hotel Dharmawangsa. It's just a house with girls, but the girls have the reputation of being some of the best looking in town. They are not hard core hookers who get drilled 5 times a night like the girls at Alexis. You can get there by grabbing a SilverBird Taxi, those guys always seem to know where it is. A bluebird taxi or one of those cheap taxis will not know where it is. The way it works is the taxi talks to the security guy, HE lets you in, and you go inside the house. There will be about 10 girls to choose from. At least 2 of the girls will be stunners (although I have been there where I didn't think there were any stunners and just left. But I have done that at Alexis in the past as well). You can take them to your hotel to have sex, but cannot have sex on location there. I think you get 3 hours with them if I remember correctly. And that is 3 hours from the time you leave the place. I don't know the price these days, but it used to be 3 million (I believe).I have been to Hartono a few times over the years. Last two visits the selection was of very poor standard so declined but the lineups do change so you never know. You can also actually take the girl on location for an additional 100,000 Rps in a (reasonable) room downstairs. So in summary it's expensive but you do get the girl for an extended period of time if Multiple pops float your boat!

Fast Eddie 48
10-22-14, 16:00
Well done Fast Eddie, this is just the sort of info we need more of here. You must have had a really exciting night. Hotel Melawei then Classic. You really are a trailblazer.

I propose that Eddies report deserves to go in the ROD everybody OK with that?To Offshore.

I didn't see anyone that is doable at Hotel Melawei the last few trip there and they keep raising their price, the other one is Karitka at Mangar Besar all old chubby girl I will keep it off my list from now on.

Fast eddie 48.

Fast Eddie 48
10-22-14, 16:09
Fast Eddie,

I am in Jakarta at the moment and as to help end the debate whether Fast Eddie is a real or a virtual traveler to Jakarta, I invited Eddie for a drink when he would be here. He has my Indonesian phone number. Maribaya is around the corner for me, definitely a place that I would have loved to meet up over a beer. However yesterday he told me HE was still in Bandung? So where are you now Fast Eddie?To Joel.

I call you twice no answer and pm you that I was staying Neo hotel at Mangar Dua with number no message from you I got back on Monday night, I did drop by to Hotel Melewai for a beer and I was the only customer there, I am at the airport cathay pacific business lounge waiting for my midnight flight to HKIA will try to call you again before leaving.

Fast eddie 48

Offshore Swell
10-23-14, 11:37
To Offshore.

I didn't see anyone that is doable at Hotel Melawei the last few trip there and they keep raising their price, the other one is Karitka at Mangar Besar all old chubby girl I will keep it off my list from now on.

Fast eddie 48.Hmmm! This is getting more and more like Forrest Gump all the time.

Thats great Eddie!. Hope you can keep us all riveted for a long time to come with all these super exciting stories about the interesting places you have been.

Member #4410
10-23-14, 23:45
Hmmm! This is getting more and more like Forrest Gump all the time.

Thats great Eddie!. Hope you can keep us all riveted for a long time to come with all these super exciting stories about the interesting places you have been.Comparing Eddie to Forrest Gump may be too much of an insult to Forrest Gump. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forrest_Gump.

Your earlier comparison to Walter Mitty is much more accurate in my opinion.

Regards,

Ko.

SeaTraveler
10-25-14, 15:10
I recently read the reports on Hartono's and I was curious. Then, a few days later, I find myself back in Jakarta in a taxi. The driver spoke decent enough English and part way through the cab ride he brought up the subject of girls. He asked me if I wanted to see the "glass house" as he called it. Coincidentally, the description was similar to Hartono's. Price he said was 3 million for the girl. So I thought that maybe this was it. I was intrigued. It was early, so I got his number and promised we would check it out later in the evening.

Sam, the taxi driver, and I met up around 8:15. He asked me if I was sure I wanted to go - 3 million is expensive in Indonesia. He had made it clear earlier, that if I did not see anyone to my liking, we would leave. Nothing at risk, so I said let's go.

He took me to the house, just a house with a wall and a gate in front of it in a regular residential neighborhood. We were near the US Embassy according to Sam. He honked the horn and a woman opened the gate. Sam told me to go in and check it out while the women took me inside. Inside, the house was very well decorated. I took a seat and waited a few minutes. Eventually I was ushered by mama into a back room. Also very elegant. And there were 5 girls sitting on a couch. I was told to sit and introductions were in order. My initial reaction was that none of these 5 girls were the model material I was expecting. I made a polite farewell to the girls and got mama back in the front to ask a few questions. Cost was 3 million for 4 hours and 6 million for 12 hours. She recommended Oola and asked her to come out front and meet me again.

I politely declined for now as it was early. If I decided to do this, it would be later. So I went out, got in Sam's taxi and told him my reaction. He said "no problem". Then he volunteered to take me to another place that had many girls in a similar situation and the cost for them would be 1. 5 million for all night in my hotel. We started out in that direction. I soon realized where we were and asked him just to drop me off at Hotel Melawi. I told him, we could hit that other scene later in the evening.

Part of me wanted to experience this scene and write a report, but for a 3 million investment, I had serious reservations. The girls I saw weren't stunners. But to me, what matters more than looks, is attitude and sexual performance.

For those who have experienced this scene can you give some feedback on your experience.

Are the girls "top shelf" in bed?

What does the higher cost of 3 million actually buy you?

Thanks,

Traveler

SeaTraveler
10-25-14, 16:34
It was 8:45 when I went in Maribaya. I wanted to be at CJ's by 10:00 to get a good seat before the place fills up. I like a seat near the entrance so you can see everyone who comes in.

I had a beer at the Maribaya Bar and talked to my friend Rita who I had seen before during Ramadan. I had only been to Maribaya once before post-Ramedan and that was during the day shift as recommended by a member here. To my question, "Who is the best", Rita recommended herself of course. When pressed harder she suggested Ani.

Took Ani to a room and had a delightful time. She sure can deep throat a cock, and loves it too from what I could gather. Sort of cut the session short so I could get to CJ's on time. Had a great time with Ani and will definitely see her again.

More Maribaya experiences in another FR.

Arrived Hotel Mulia around 10 pm. Bar was still pretty empty. Got my perfect seat and waited. It wasn't long before these two girls came in. With what I call Japanese features and sat right behind me. Learned their names later as Yesy and Aya. They were fucking gorgeous. All I could think about was how much more beautiful they were than the girls at the "Glass House". Soon I realized I had a real problem, which one of these beauty's to hit on. Ha ha ha. I must have sat there for 30 minutes and couldn't make up my mind. They were both so good looking. I am sitting there thinking, I wish my friends at home were here to see this. So I gave my cell phone to a girl and asked the pair of lookers to take a picture with me. They happily agreed. See attached.

That helped jump start a conversation. Yesy asked,"If I am here alone" and I reply, "Yes". She asks if I want her as company and I say of course. But not ready to leave yet as I want to see the band, (and all the other gorgeous girls coming in). The choice is made. Still I find Aya particularly sexy in her floor length dress. I am also attracted to her upbeat cheery mood. Yesy seems more "professional".

I sit and enjoy my overpriced beer, the band, the eye candy all around. Over the next 30 minutes a few old former dates see me and come over to say "Hi". Then up rolls Aya & Yesy's friend #3, Lilli.

This little midget minx has the cutest smile. It isn't long before she starts her seduction routine on me. This girl is so cute, so funny and so innocent, she is impossible to resist. She wraps herself around me like I am her boyfriend. This girl definitely is not afraid of public displays of affection. OMG. I can't stand it. I just look at her and say, "You're so bad. " I told her she is stealing me away from her friend. Doesn't care. Ha ha ha. Finish my beer and off we go to the hotel. I tell Yesy and Aya, "I'll be back".

Lilli was just full on fun. Just this little pixie. I thought she was short, then I saw she was wearing 5" heels. She must be 4'10" in bare feet. I didn't measure her in the shower. The strange part. Her pussy was shaved a few days old and bristly. No problem as I have had that many time before. The strange thing was the stubble rubbed my cock to the point that fucking was painful. I endured a bit. She was concerned that I cum. She blew me and even started a hand job, but I hate hand jobs from girls. I like sucking and fucking only. I decided my best course was saving up for later, in case Yesy wants to spend the night. In reality, I wasn't the least bit disappointed. I had already fucked twice earlier today and she was so much fun I just decided to fall in love. Ha ha.

We both jumped in a cab and headed back to CJ's. It turns out she has a car and had to get it from the garage. Didn't connect with Yesy or Aya tho I could tell they and Lilli were talking about me.

Lilli took me back to my hotel in her car. So funny watching such a small person drive. How do they reach the pedals?

On the way, Lilli tells me she told her friends that I am such a nice guy and they should come back with me. When we reach my hotel she gives me both their mobile phone numbers. I sms both, but no reply. Finally an hour later I get an sms from Yesy and she is fine to come to my hotel. Except it is 2:30 am and I am too tired. Price was steep for late at night. Wanted 2 million but came down to 1. 5 million. Maybe next time.

I had such a great time with Lilli for 1 million, I still can't imagine what the 3 million "glass house" girls would do for me that I didn't already get. Oh, I'll definitely see Lilli again and this time she promises a fresh shave.

Cheers

SeaTraveler
10-25-14, 16:52
I have read a lot of "negative" reports on here recently about Maribaya girls appearance.

I visited there about a month ago with Ko recommending either Arti, Dewi or Lillie. I walked in around 11 am and the girls came out. I asked for Arti, Dewi or Lillie. The first girl, cute too, says "I'm Arti". Looks good to me so we get a room. The session was great. Best blowjob I've had in Indonesia. Rode me cowgirl until I came. At the time she suggested a 2-girl with her friend Egie, SP?

This week I was there again and tried her friend Egie. Just as good as Artie. A little bit of teeth in the blowjob, but fucked great. Pretty too.

Then in the evening I went back after the "glass house" adventure and had a nice session with Ani, who, as mentioned in the other report, deep throats a cock like no one else. Also a little teeth from time to time. Also pretty.

I am not sure where all the dissatisfaction came from but all the girls I spent time with were pretty and excellent performers.

When I did leave after Ani, I looked in the main waiting & bar area and there were just a few girls. Mostly plump and unattractive to me. The best ones were all busy. If I had walked in at that time. I might have been disappointed as well.

Timing can be everything.

Cheers,

Traveler

Member #4537
10-25-14, 20:08
What does the higher cost of 3 million actually buy you?Absolutely nothing.

In the 3 times I've taken a girl (on site with the room provided, not take away), I've had the same crappy attitude and service. Wouldn't BJ without a condom (almost everywhere else in town does a BBBJ), no sucking on tits, no DFK (with the exception of 1) and reluctant to do anything besides the Missionary position. By the way, it's actually 2 shots not unlimited.

If service is what you are after, the places in Kota are definitely a safer bet, especially since tips would motivate them to perform better. Even taking a chic from BATS and CJs is safer, because for 2 million you can negotiate 3 or 4 shots with the hottest chics in there.

Smoothy
10-26-14, 03:47
Egy, is it still 3 million at Hartono's? I've never done one on site there. I took 2 home in the past and both were ok. Maybe you have more control when you get them in your place than doing it there. Then again, I haven't taken one from there in about 10 years, and back then no girls were requiring a condom for a BJ.

Offshore Swell
10-26-14, 12:01
Unfortunately this forum has one particular poster who trawls around other peoples posts and then regurgitates them as these bland, poorly spelt bits of totally useless information. That may be where you got this impression from. Most people just ignore him but he can be a bit misleading for new Jakarta hands. He posted a negative report on Maribaya just recently although some of us very much doubt that he has ever seen a real pussy let alone been to Maribaya and put his doodle into one.

There is actually a bit of debate ATM as to whether this guy has actually ever been to Indonesia. Certainly his posts indicate that he could well some semi literate dreamer who tries to liven up his mundane existence with a fantasy life as FE48.

I will let you do a bit of reading and come to your own conclusions. As for Maribaya. It is a well run and pretty good value for money proposition for anybody who wants a soft landing into punting A La Jakarta style.

Enjoy.

Regards.

OS.


I have read a lot of "negative" reports on here recently about Maribaya girls appearance.

I visited there about a month ago with Ko recommending either Arti, Dewi or Lillie. I walked in around 11 am and the girls came out. I asked for Arti, Dewi or Lillie. The first girl, cute too, says "I'm Arti". Looks good to me so we get a room. The session was great. Best blowjob I've had in Indonesia. Rode me cowgirl until I came. At the time she suggested a 2-girl with her friend Egie, SP?

This week I was there again and tried her friend Egie. Just as good as Artie. A little bit of teeth in the blowjob, but fucked great. Pretty too.

Then in the evening I went back after the "glass house" adventure and had a nice session with Ani, who, as mentioned in the other report, deep throats a cock like no one else. Also a little teeth from time to time. Also pretty.

I am not sure where all the dissatisfaction came from but all the girls I spent time with were pretty and excellent performers.

When I did leave after Ani, I looked in the main waiting & bar area and there were just a few girls. Mostly plump and unattractive to me. The best ones were all busy. If I had walked in at that time. I might have been disappointed as well.

Timing can be everything.

Cheers,

Traveler

Member #4537
10-26-14, 12:34
Egy, is it still 3 million at Hartono's? I've never done one on site there. I took 2 home in the past and both were ok. Maybe you have more control when you get them in your place than doing it there. Then again, I haven't taken one from there in about 10 years, and back then no girls were requiring a condom for a BJ.Yes, it's 3 million for ST. And it's only 2 shots, not the "unlimited" a fellow monger reported.

Honestly, you would be taking on too much risk if you take them home especially when you have a strict time limit unlike the CJ / BATS / Blok M girls. As you know Indo chics always waste a lot of time in toilet and useless chatter as soon as they are in your place.

The 9 million I've blown in Hartono's could have gotten me 27 girls in the Kota places. And I would have gotten BBBJ from all of them (if one of them refuses, I can change the girl free-of-charge) and if they like me or accept a tip they would've let me gone bareback too. And definitely sucking on their tits, doing all positions etc.

Pipe Layer99
10-26-14, 12:41
Egy, is it still 3 million at Hartono's? I've never done one on site there. I took 2 home in the past and both were ok. Maybe you have more control when you get them in your place than doing it there. Then again, I haven't taken one from there in about 10 years, and back then no girls were requiring a condom for a BJ.You just recommended that place last week yet you haven't been there in 10 YEARS!? That's not smooth. You should have mentioned that in the original post. No one needs information that outdated when planning a trip in 2014.

Smoothy
10-26-14, 13:58
You just recommended that place last week yet you haven't been there in 10 YEARS!? That's not smooth. You should have mentioned that in the original post. No one needs information that outdated when planning a trip in 2014.10 years may seem like a long time. However, I would be willing to bet it hasn't changed one bit in 10 years other than the price. I first visited it in 1998 and last visited it in 2007. It didn't change at all. And even recently, I still have had SilverBird taxi drivers ask me if I wanted to go there to get "a really nice girl". I haven't been to Hotel Travel in about 10 years either (I lived in Jakarta most of the last 10 years, but I hate the place). I'd also be willing to bet that it hasn't changed a bit. Both with the exception that girls at either place may now try to use condoms with BJ because that trend is spreading through Jakarta everywhere more than it used to.

I've seen your reports in the Thailand section. You are not going with the top quality girls there, you are going down market for 1000 baht all night type of chicks (not that there is anything wrong with that). So I would think places like Alexis and Hartonos are not what you are looking for. Maybe stick to Atrium Mall and Hotel Travel if you want similar type of action to what you are getting in Thailand. If you do want to try going up market, try Alexis, Malioboro, Hartonos, or maybe even Dragon Fly or Immigrant if you have game. In my personal opinion, the up market girls and the down market girls are mostly the same as far as looks, but the up market girls have more sophistication as far as how to make themselves more presentable.

I would not be surprised if Egy is right that most of the girls provide crappy service at Hartonos because those girls are more prima donas than the girls who are owned by the Kota knock shops. Hartonos doesn't crack the whip on them as much to provide good service, only that they get back before the 3 hours are up. Egy once suggested to me not to take the girls out of those same Kota knock shops because they provide better service inside the knock shop than they do back at your hotel. Same girls, but once they are away from the control of the mamasans, they get lazy. I have tried that in that past and he is absolutely right.

SeaTraveler
10-26-14, 14:33
("what does 3 million actually buy you?) ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.Thanks for confirming what I suspected. That the 3 million buys you no guarantee of a great sexual performance. The looks you can see. Beyond that, it's just guesswork. That is why I personally prefer the Club scene. It's as much about the experience as the playtime. I get to see; talk and evaluate with my gut instinct, what the fun factor will be. I don't always make the perfect choice, but I've rarely had a bad experience.

Which reminds me, my second time at BATS, I met a girl who put on a good "show" in the Club; even lightly kissed me once or twice. In the taxi though, she iced up and refused to kiss me. So I told the taxi driver to turn around and take us back. I guess this doesn't happen often because he kept driving in the direction of my hotel for 5 minutes. I finally made it clear to him and the girl we were headed back to BATS. She was flabbergasted. But my "radar" told me I had made the wrong choice. I'll never really know, but better safe than sorry.

Instead of a 3 million girl the other night, I got great value for my total of 1,65 million spent on Ani at Maribaya and Lilli at CJ'S (taxi pic attached).

I'm glad I made the choices I did.

Smoothy
10-26-14, 21:49
If it's "good service" that is most important to you, it's hard to beat Maribaya in Jakarta. The girls aren't the best looking, but they provide the best service in town as far as I've experienced.

Member #4410
10-26-14, 22:23
If it's "good service" that is most important to you, it's hard to beat Maribaya in Jakarta. The girls aren't the best looking, but they provide the best service in town as far as I've experienced.They did have some loookers in the past (Sari and Shella, to name a few) but it's not bad generally, though I can only speak for the day shift. Never tried the evening shift. Check the pictures I posted in July to see if there's something to your taste.

Regards,

Ko.

Member #4410
10-26-14, 23:30
Unfortunately this forum has one particular poster who trawls around other peoples posts and then regurgitates them as these bland, poorly spelt bits of totally useless information. That may be where you got this impression from. Most people just ignore him but he can be a bit misleading for new Jakarta hands. He posted a negative report on Maribaya just recently although some of us very much doubt that he has ever seen a real pussy let alone been to Maribaya and put his doodle into one.

There is actually a bit of debate ATM as to whether this guy has actually ever been to Indonesia. Certainly his posts indicate that he could well some semi literate dreamer who tries to liven up his mundane existence with a fantasy life as FE48.

I will let you do a bit of reading and come to your own conclusions. As for Maribaya. It is a well run and pretty good value for money proposition for anybody who wants a soft landing into punting A La Jakarta style.

Enjoy.

Regards.

OS.Eddie will get you for that! <grin> .

Regards,

Ko.

Member #4410
10-26-14, 23:39
I have read a lot of "negative" reports on here recently about Maribaya girls appearance.

I visited there about a month ago with Ko recommending either Arti, Dewi or Lillie. I walked in around 11 am and the girls came out. I asked for Arti, Dewi or Lillie. The first girl, cute too, says "I'm Arti". Looks good to me so we get a room. The session was great. Best blowjob I've had in Indonesia. Rode me cowgirl until I came. At the time she suggested a 2-girl with her friend Egie, SP?

This week I was there again and tried her friend Egie. Just as good as Artie. A little bit of teeth in the blowjob, but fucked great. Pretty too.

Then in the evening I went back after the "glass house" adventure and had a nice session with Ani, who, as mentioned in the other report, deep throats a cock like no one else. Also a little teeth from time to time. Also pretty.

I am not sure where all the dissatisfaction came from but all the girls I spent time with were pretty and excellent performers.

When I did leave after Ani, I looked in the main waiting & bar area and there were just a few girls. Mostly plump and unattractive to me. The best ones were all busy. If I had walked in at that time. I might have been disappointed as well.

Timing can be everything.

Cheers,

TravelerWell spoken, Sir. I could not have put it better.

Regards,

Ko.

Fast Eddie 48
10-27-14, 07:58
If it's "good service" that is most important to you, it's hard to beat Maribaya in Jakarta. The girls aren't the best looking, but they provide the best service in town as far as I've experienced.To Smoothy.

I agree you get GFE service with old chubby girl at Maribaya and girl there all speak good english but for 600 k for average looking girl you can get 2 young girl at classic terminal for 525 k,most customer there are old expat just want to get a good BBBJ and drink beer with the girl, If you want a hardcore service go to Tulip in Bangkok yout get everything there AR, Anal and GFE BBBJ, I don't see any reason to go there anymore just better more option in Jakrata for me.

Fast eddie 48.

Smoothy
10-27-14, 08:41
They did have some loookers in the past (Sari and Shella, to name a few) but it's not bad generally, though I can only speak for the day shift. Never tried the evening shift. Check the pictures I posted in July to see if there's something to your taste.

Regards,

Ko.Talking about the past, don't forget Lusi at Maribaya and her big breasts.

Pipe Layer99
10-27-14, 16:33
10 years may seem like a long time. However, I would be willing to bet it hasn't changed one bit in 10 years other than the price.

I've seen your reports in the Thailand section. You are not going with the top quality girls there, you are going down market for 1000 baht all night type of chicks (not that there is anything wrong with that). So I would think places like Alexis and Hartonos are not what you are looking for.
These venues change a lot. Especially after many years. Heck these places change from month to month. One month it's hot and the next its ho-hum. The Red Square club and Dee's bar in Blok M used to be happening from what I read. Not anymore. Point is, if you haven't been to a place in years, mention that factor. This type of info is important to someone who has done the homework / planning and is fine-tuning their choices.

The lovely ladies that entertain me in Thailand are winners (every blue moon we all get a dud). Most are excellent GFEs and they usually end up staying til late the following day. Hell I have to pay them to leave. The only thing that can be considered low market is the low market 'price' they want from me. Must be my charm LOL. If you think they aren't high quality good. I want more guys to think like that. Funny how I get so many replies and PMs from the fellas asking how to contact these ladies.

Quality is not only based on looks alone. I want a very pretty girl, great attitude, and excellent service (especially when I travel and visit a costly venue). I seek out the top sweeties that give me good vibes. That usually amounts to a great time. Most would agree the really hot looking chicks provide the shittiest service. If grabbing a hot looking girl for an hour at $200 usd floats your boat, knock yourself out. I will always grab the prettiest one that I connect with even if she not the best looking available (that's after I have already spoken to the best looking ones). I did that years ago in Rio. I grabbed the hottest chick in a terma (an upscale *****house where the girls walk around in sexy outfits) and took her up. She was so fine and I was pumped to have this beauty lady. However, the total experience lacked in comparison to what I had with other Rio babes. In hind sight, I wish I had grabbed a different one. Lesson learned.

D Cups
10-27-14, 16:59
Talking about the past, don't forget Lusi at Maribaya and her big breasts.Wow, do you know if she is still there? Thanks, Smoothy.

Pipe Layer99
10-27-14, 17:07
In the 3 times I've taken a girl (on site with the room provided, not take away), I've had the same crappy attitude and service. Wouldn't BJ without a condom (almost everywhere else in town does a BBBJ), no sucking on tits, no DFK (with the exception of 1) and reluctant to do anything besides the Missionary position. By the way, it's actually 2 shots not unlimited.
If service is what you are after, the places in Kota are definitely a safer bet, especially since tips would motivate them to perform better. Even taking a chic from BATS and CJs is safer, because for 2 million you can negotiate 3 or 4 shots with the hottest chics in there.Egy,

I appreciate the update. Thanks.

Smoothy
10-27-14, 18:10
Wow, do you know if she is still there? Thanks, Smoothy.Unfortunately not. Like Ko said, there were some good girls there in the past. You will be hard pressed to find bigger breasts than those.

Smoothy
10-27-14, 18:50
He took me to the house, just a house with a wall and a gate in front of it in a regular residential neighborhood. We were near the US Embassy according to Sam. He honked the horn and a woman opened the gate. Sam told me to go in and check it out while the women took me inside. Inside, the house was very well decorated. I took a seat and waited a few minutes. Eventually I was ushered by mama into a back room. Also very elegant. And there were 5 girls sitting on a couch. I was told to sit and introductions were in order. My initial reaction was that none of these 5 girls were the model material I was expecting. I made a polite farewell to the girls and got mama back in the front to ask a few questions. Cost was 3 million for 4 hours and 6 million for 12 hours. She recommended Oola and asked her to come out front and meet me again.I don't know the name of that place, but I've been dragged there by taxis in the past on some drunken nights. I have never seen a girl there worth taking. However, it's fun checking those places out, isn't it? You never know, maybe you will find a gem one night. I also like to check out the girls in the streets occasionally. Just don't take any girl standing in the streets near Taman Lawang.

Ebauche
10-28-14, 01:28
Talking about the past, don't forget Lusi at Maribaya and her big breasts.Damn. I'd certainly remember those.

Muzungufotsy
10-28-14, 04:54
After being disappointed by the line up at Berlian Kartika and not interested by the starfish service at Classic and Travel hotel these days I thought a night out at blokM could be fun with the right buddy specially after the description Koperen Karel did to me about DS place.

Already met Hard Hat Mate once and we decided to check a few bars on a weekday.

We started by DS place of course the place was still quiet at first but then dancers start showing up and it becomes more lively.

Some of these dancers are quite hot and sexy and apparently they can go to the VIP room as well although they charge more than the usual VIP room girls which are most of them older and probably single moms.

First time I entered the VIP room it was still early and lights on so all the girls came to me at once but wasn't impressed by the line up so I just inquired about the prices and left.

Basically it s 300 k for a BBBJCIM plus 50 k service (security) tip. Sex can be provided at different prices I was quoted 500 k by an old one but I declined. It seems they ask more likely like 600 or 700 k but again everything is negotiable so guys learn to negotiate please.

After a few drinks we moved to Top gun since My bar was dead that night. Top Gun was very alive with a live band and many girls.

Some of them are really rough some cute one stunner that we both spotted but she was with 2 local guys and not looking for action. Too bad.

Had a little dance with the singer which even kissed me. She was quite drunk I guess but that was fun.

Back to DS place for some action. Spotted a girl with a Tback an ass to die for and a promising mouth.

Well she was a single mom and her tits were not great but I said to myself if I want to try the VIP room that will be with this one or never.

VIP room? Ok here we go.

Went to one of the corners on the left they wanted to turn off the lights but I said no I still want to look at her that s part of the fun.

She undressed we kissed and she went down to my johnny.

Her skills were quite good she tried to make me come quickly as a good professional but I can resist hehe.

Hard Hat Mate was busy at the next corner but I didn't notice at first since I was so focused on my girl.

I finally came inside her mouth and she took it until the end.

Interesting experience to get blew by a girl in front of 2 others who are checking the lights and while your buddy is fucking almost besides you.

Thanks buddy!

Smoothy
10-28-14, 19:49
After being disappointed by the line up at Berlian Kartika and not interested by the starfish service at Classic and Travel hotel these daysNice report. I'm glad to hear there is someone else out there who hates the poor service the girls at Classic and Travel hotel provide. I still go to Classic sometimes simply because the girls are young and nice looking and the price is cheap. But it seems I almost always leave there wondering why I wasted my time again. Although similar to Classic as far as the girls and price (and crappy service), I think Hotel Travel flat out sucks so I don't go there at all anymore. At least Classic has nice rooms. The local Indos and Chinese seem to love those places though, so they have a niche.

The lineup at Kartika has always been poor, even dating back 15 years. But the service there is good and unique. If you wait long enough, you will find that they have 2 or 3 good looking girls there (not stunners). If you grab 2 of them for a sandwich, it's pretty awesome. Never take 2 girls at Classic or Travel, that's a waste of money - they get even lazier in pairs. But 2 girls at Kartika is something everyone should experience at least once.

Sorry I missed you that Sunday, but I had to be home by 7 pm that afternoon. It sounds like you had a great time. That back room at Dee's place is wild.

Jokeri
10-28-14, 20:35
Hi all,

I'm going to Jakarta for a quick 1 week visit December.

Any tips for easy anal sex?

Thanks

Member #4537
10-28-14, 22:04
plus 50 k (security) tip.It's a scam. Don't pay them anything!

There's no such thing as "security" fee.

You just grab the girl you want and take her to the corner for a 300 k BBBJ w / CIM or 500 k for FS.

Smoothy
10-28-14, 22:28
Hi all,

I'm going to Jakarta for a quick 1 week visit December.

Any tips for easy anal sex?

ThanksTaman Lawang.

MasBule
10-29-14, 02:12
Any tips for easy anal sex?
Don't forget the 'reach around' - sharing is caring.

MasBule
10-29-14, 02:20
My pleasure bro, good report and it was a great night. Although one of us drank alot more than the other (me!

You left out the part where we where drinking melon arak on the street in front of Top Gun and laughing it up with the local girls, complete with nasi goreng food carts and rats running around our feet.

Aahhh, what's not to love about the diversity in this city. Can go from Cloud or Alexis one night and then onto drinking arak on the street and a special Ds service the next night.

HHM.



Already met Hard Hat Mate once and we decided to check a few bars on a weekday.

Master Diver II
10-29-14, 07:57
After a few drinks we moved to Top gun since My bar was dead that night. Top Gun was very alive with a live band and many girls.

Some of them are really rough some cute one stunner that we both spotted but she was with 2 local guys and not looking for action. Too bad.
Are you sure the local guys weren't just her "bodyguard" gay friends (extremely common in Jakarta)? It's rare for local guys or a normal local girl to just hang out in Top Gun. Sometimes the negotiation is done through the gay guys. That's why a certain esteemed member who used to frequent this board, used to have a resident gay guy follow him around town to enter into such negotiations.


Taman Lawang.ROFLMFAO I see you still enjoy dishing it out Smoothy.

MD II.

DelBosque
10-29-14, 09:43
TO Smoothy, Koperen Karel, Prison Break and many other JAK. Hunters.

Are there Beer Bars, Pubs or Cafés in the city where local people hang out.

At noon, in the after noon or after work before going home where I can chat.

With and maybe more?

Even some older people. I'm 60 !

I come to JAK in 10 days.

Thanks

Fast Eddie 48
10-29-14, 10:16
Classic request you to paid upfront now I told them I never paid upfront before was there last in March, they told me that now the company policy and same go for CBJ girl attitude is not as good as it use to be and girl are pushy for tip but girl quality is better than Hotel travel I did visit to Hotel Travel one time and most girl there now want only CBJ but the mamasan did find me a girl that do BBBJ and attitude is OK so I give her a 50 k tip, I also ivsit king cross sauna they have some hot girl there there is a entries fee of 60 k for FS is 500 k more than classic but it is a nicer place didn't try the table dancer didn't have the time girl there will do nude table dance for lady drink.

Fast eddie 48.

Menteng
10-29-14, 10:27
Taman Lawang.Great reply!!

Menteng
10-29-14, 10:31
That's why a certain esteemed member who used to frequent this board, used to have a resident gay guy follow him around town to enter into such negotiations.
MD II.Do you happen to know about his latest whereabouts? I'd sure like to know.

Smoothy
10-29-14, 20:30
It's a scam. Don't pay them anything!

There's no such thing as "security" fee.

You just grab the girl you want and take her to the corner for a 300 k BBBJ w / CIM or 500 k for FS.I've certainly never heard of paying any "security" fee there. Hell, sometimes guys are getting a BJ right in the middle of the room with their johnson in full view of everyone in the room.

Member #4410
10-30-14, 00:17
It's a scam. Don't pay them anything!

There's no such thing as "security" fee.

You just grab the girl you want and take her to the corner for a 300 k BBBJ w / CIM or 500 k for FS.You're right, but on a number of occasions I have seen the girls going to the old hags after the deed and giving them money. I think it's better to invite the girls to your room so the pressure of paying security money is not there.

Regards,

Ko.

Member #4410
10-30-14, 00:26
TO Smoothy, Koperen Karel, Prison Break and many other JAK. Hunters.

Are there Beer Bars, Pubs or Cafs in the city where local people hang out.

At noon, in the after noon or after work before going home where I can chat.

With and maybe more?

Even some older people. I'm 60 !

I come to JAK in 10 days.

ThanksI'm not sure what you mean by local people. If you mean Indonesians, check out the site Jakarta 100 bars, which tells you (among others) where the young, rich and beautiful Indonesians hang out.

If you mean expats living in Jakarta, check out the Jakarta thread and you will find a wealth of information, but ignore some trolls who post nothing but rubbish.

Regards,

Ko.

Ceegee
10-30-14, 01:10
Was back in town recently, and continue to be amazed and delighted by the variety pussy on offer. I thought I would try out craigslist, so put up an ad. Had a few responses, less than I thought I would actually. I imagined my inbox would be overflowing with professionals asking crazy prices, when in fact I think I only got around 6 responses.

One response caught my fancy. A bit on the plump side but with giant tits. Got chatting on a messenger and she said she was into all kinds of kinky stuff and although she had never tried anal was willing for me to train her. Unable to get the giant funbags out of my mind I arranged a meet up. Lets just say the pics were old and the plumpness had increased, but I still blew my load across her chest, watched her lick it up then sent her on her way, not to be repeated. Almost no cost, she was not a pro just wanted a bit of taxi money.

Another girl I had found online and had chatted to occasionally was sending me messages wanting to meet. She had been a bit flakey in the past, seemed to have trouble committing to a schedule so we had never met and I had pretty much written her off. Her pictures were very cute, but hey, there plenty of fish in the smelly Jakarta sea. However she popped up online and was eager to meet and I had some free time so we arranged a meet up. I was not sure if she was a professional, semi-pro or what the story was. She had asked me to bring her a gift, which I agreed with the intention of slipping her some taxi and gift money and apologizing for not being able to go to the shops first.

However the conversation turned to finances and we finally settled on 1. 2 juta after some lengthy negotiations. Her story was that one of the Aussies working in Jakarta promised to marry her, got her pregnant before the wedding, then dumped her and ran back to Australia when he found out she was pregnant. Now she needs money to put the kid in school and she won't accept anything from her ex. She has a normal day job as a teacher, and is looking for some extra cash. Obviously I treat with skepticism anything a girl under a paid arrangement tells me, but I did not detect any BS during that story.

Long story short, we meet up at my hotel, have a couple of drinks to relax her. Pics were real she is cute, I would give her a 7. Small chat over we head up to my room. Well fuck me didn't she turn out to be a tiger in the room. Lots of kissing, ripped my clothes off and started a nice BBBJ. I got her clothes off to reveal a typical late 20's single mother body. Not fat, not a stick figure, no stretch marks. Very nice. She moves down a little lower to suck my balls, I moved forward on the couch to give her better access. She goes lower, I move more forward again. Next thing I know, I'm essentially on my back on the couch holding my legs in the air while she licks my ass. Bonus points for this girl, completely unprompted.

We move to the bed, lots of positions until I have her doggie and start rubbing her asshole. No objections. Put a little pressure on her brown eye with my finger. No objections. Get some lube, slip the tip of my finger in. No objections. Slide the whole finger in, rubbing my cock in her pussy from inside her ass. Still no objections, so I replace my finger with my cock and proceed to pound her ass. This girl loves anal, just my type. Getting close to blowing so I pulled out of her ass, took the condom off and unloaded in her mouth.

I'd like to buy the Aussie who trained her a beer, because she is definitely not your average single mother who got left at the alter, she is one of the good ones in the giant box of Jakarta chocolates.

Smoothy
10-30-14, 01:54
TO Smoothy, Koperen Karel, Prison Break and many other JAK. Hunters.

Are there Beer Bars, Pubs or Cafs in the city where local people hang out.

At noon, in the after noon or after work before going home where I can chat.

With and maybe more?

Even some older people. I'm 60 !

I come to JAK in 10 days.

ThanksAt noon? Not that I know of. You will find that in a tourist city like Bangkok or Bali, but Jakarta isn't really a tourist city.

One of the problems with Jakarta is it gets started quite late these days. 15 years ago, you could go to Top Gun at 6 pm and there were girls there already and plenty of guys there just after work having beers. Not anymore. Ever since My Bar came to Blok M, that drove the starting time to around 10 pm or later. It was one of the great losses to the area when My Bar opened it's doors. Not only did it drive Top Gun out of business, it drove the late-great Lintas Melawai out of business. Top Gun has since re-opened as a late night place with a band and has taken away most of My Bar's business. But back in the day, TG was the place to go right after work and that niche has never been replaced.

If you want to just have a few beers with the guys after work, you can go to Murphys pub in Kemang or maybe Eastern Promise in Kemang, but there won't be girls there to pick up. Aphrodite in Kuningan or Liquid exchange in Epicentrium are also places you can grab some beers early. If you want to have some nice girls to look at a little earlier, you can go to Malioboro. They have fun things going on by 6 pm. It's not really a place to hang out and chat with the guys though, it's a loud place with prostitutes and dancers. Any of the massage places like Delta will have lots of local guys just after work hanging out in the sauna area. If you are a foreigner, they love talking and will be glad to strike up a conversation.

MasBule
10-30-14, 02:24
Yes, what Smoothy said is spot on about the expat pub scene.

Also, I have found there are many places to go for a long lunch where Indo business people go or Indo lunching wives go, but your got to be with and Indo and going it alone won't really work IMHO (social house, potato head, loewry, union, skye). These are upper class bars / resto's, great for business lunches.

Or try Jalan Jaksa, a few bars there are open at midday, and get a regular customer group from at 3 pm onwards. Just be prepared to drink beer in the open (non Aircon) air with mozzies and papuans / international backpackers doing the same doing the same. If your a social kinda guy this can be a good afternoon to meet new people. I have spent many a good afternoon there dodgying work, in my business clothes and never had a problem. Always meet interesting characters to chat to.


At noon? Not that I know of. You will find that in a tourist city like Bangkok or Bali, but Jakarta isn't really a tourist city.

One of the problems with Jakarta is it gets started quite late these days. 15 years ago, you could go to Top Gun at 6 pm and there were girls there already and plenty of guys there just after work having beers. Not anymore. Ever since My Bar came to Blok M, that drove the starting time to around 10 pm or later. It was one of the great losses to the area when My Bar opened it's doors. Not only did it drive Top Gun out of business, it drove the late-great Lintas Melawai out of business. Top Gun has since re-opened as a late night place with a band and has taken away most of My Bar's business. But back in the day, TG was the place to go right after work and that niche has never been replaced.

If you want to just have a few beers with the guys after work, you can go to Murphys pub in Kemang or maybe Eastern Promise in Kemang, but there won't be girls there to pick up. Aphrodite in Kuningan or Liquid exchange in Epicentrium are also places you can grab some beers early. If you want to have some nice girls to look at a little earlier, you can go to Malioboro. They have fun things going on by 6 pm. It's not really a place to hang out and chat with the guys though, it's a loud place with prostitutes and dancers. Any of the massage places like Delta will have lots of local guys just after work hanging out in the sauna area. If you are a foreigner, they love talking and will be glad to strike up a conversation.

Muzungufotsy
10-30-14, 03:51
Are you sure the local guys weren't just her "bodyguard" gay friends (extremely common in Jakarta)? It's rare for local guys or a normal local girl to just hang out in Top Gun. Sometimes the negotiation is done through the gay guys. That's why a certain esteemed member who used to frequent this board, used to have a resident gay guy follow him around town to enter into such negotiations.

MD II.Yes I m sure.

Muzungufotsy
10-30-14, 03:53
It's a scam. Don't pay them anything!

There's no such thing as "security" fee.

You just grab the girl you want and take her to the corner for a 300 k BBBJ w / CIM or 500 k for FS.Ok I got screwed. Thanks for mentioning it to me.

Won't happen again.

Cooze Hound
10-30-14, 06:57
You're right, but on a number of occasions I have seen the girls going to the old hags after the deed and giving them money. I think it's better to invite the girls to your room so the pressure of paying security money is not there.

Regards,

Ko.Yes 300\500 . The old hags often keep an eye out or lurk close to try provide a modicum of modesty from other eyes, also they sell condoms to the younger girls.

Its all about money of course and if an old boiler makes 15,000 rupiah in there then that's a bowl of soto ceker and a bajai home.

Hilo77
10-31-14, 04:02
It's a scam. Don't pay them anything!

There's no such thing as "security" fee.

You just grab the girl you want and take her to the corner for a 300 k BBBJ w / CIM or 500 k for FS.Ah come on guys, are times really that tough that you can't slip a tip of a couple of bucks to some old dear who provides you with copious wet tissues and stands outside your booth to keep away unwanted attention? Because I got to tell you if you don't pay it the sweet young thing who used the tissues to wipe your jizz off her pretty little chin will have to pay it, it's the way the system works.

Don't sweat the small stuff lads, the old dears providing security are very useful sources of information about fresh meat, who to avoid, leads to follow up and the latest gossip, and will throw in a good muscular massage as you're supping your pint too, paying them the security fee is a very modest investment compared to the high-value info you'll be getting in return, not to mention avoiding getting the name of being a "bule pelit / miskin". For myself I value my reputation higher than what amounts to spare change.

You'll be forking over the best part of two million in the course of a good night out, a four-dollar tip to keep the atmosphere pleasant and to let everyone know you're not a cheap charlie really shouldn't be a big concern to gentlemen of the world like us, should it?

ScotsDale
10-31-14, 04:51
Anybody seen the lovely Maria from Top Gun lately.

Scotsdale

FreebieFan
10-31-14, 05:15
Yes 300\500 . The old hags often keep an eye out or lurk close to try provide a modicum of modesty from other eyes, also they sell condoms to the younger girls.

Its all about money of course and if an old boiler makes 15,000 rupiah in there then that's a bowl of soto ceker and a bajai home.They used to run the same nonsense in Burgos street bars in Makati. You would go to the private curtained off booth, for a little lunch and desert and before the game could start, someone would come up and demand a drink claiming they were the " curtain girl".

" Sir I'm here to make sure no one opens the curtain.

" Honey I realy don't care if the curtains are opened. Theres no one in the bar anyway ".

Smoothy
10-31-14, 05:22
avoiding getting the name of being a "bule pelit / miskin". For those who don't know, that translates to "cheap white guy / or broke white guy". Not traits the girls find too attractive. Another phrase they use for that is "bule jaksa". In Bali, another such nickname is "bule beer bintang" because of the foreigners who wear those bintang tank tops.

As far as the old hags hanging out in Blok M, I rather like the shoulder massages some of them provide. Some of them say they know me from long ago and can tell me some pretty detailed stories about my past exploits, although I swear I never saw those women all those years ago. I've thrown them some money for shoulder massages, but never any to provide security in the back room at Dee's. Then again, I don't partake in BJ's or sex in the back room at Dee's. The only girl back there who I find attractive is Anjani, and she has the personality of a soggy cigarette. Her sister was much nicer.

MasBule
10-31-14, 06:28
Some of them say they know me from long ago and can tell me some pretty detailed stories about my past exploits, although I swear I never saw those women all those years ago. I always find it incredible how these guys remember you, years after last seeing them. I find it comes up alot. And can be dangerous.

Example being, I said Hello, to an ojek driver last week, who took me for 1 ride once at lunchtime (albeit to Fortune behind the LE'merdien, and waited 2 hrs for me to come out), a few years back. So he see's me the other day and asks me if I want to goto Fortune. How do they remember?

Or a girl I met once had drinks with in desperados in Surabaya some years back, whom I bumped into in Jakarta recently, remembered me and that night vivdly- again how do they do that.

Ok. So bules are 1 in a 1000, but still, I always thought we all looked the same to them.

Member #4537
10-31-14, 18:06
Don't sweat the small stuff lads, the old dears providing security are very useful sources of information.....who to avoidFor me, they're bothersome and take away from the overall experience.

The problem is once you give one of them 50 k, then a whole bunch of others come up and ask for the same as if they are beggars (just for standing there idle doing nothing in a room with only one other guest sitting across the room).

I'd rather give it to one of the satpams outside, who probably earn a quarter of what these old hags make in tips every month. And these are the real ones doing a real job, because you can bet once a vicious fight between two bules breaks out inside the bar or a gang of thugs turn up outside, those old hags certainly won't be there doing their "security fee" duties.

If you asked one of them who to avoid or who to take I'm willing to bet they'll lie through their teeth and say whoever of the girls gave them a tip or she is on good terms with. Totally unreliable.

I heard that Dee's Place some 10 or 15 years ago didn't have any of that nonsense.

DelBosque
10-31-14, 20:28
Thanks Koperen Karel, Smoothy and Friends for your reaction on my question about Bars and Pubs in JAK.

I come to JAk in 10 days. First I stay 2 nights, than go inside the country for a week and than come back.

For 4 nights more.

I think to stay my first 2 nights in Ambhara hotel close to blokM and my next 4 nights in Mercure Kota hotel.

Near Mangabesar!

Good idea or not?

Hilo77
11-01-14, 03:00
Some of them say they know me from long ago and can tell me some pretty detailed stories about my past exploits, although I swear I never saw those women all those years ago. I've thrown them some money for shoulder massages, but never any to provide security in the back room at Dee's.The truly sad aspect of it is that most of the old dears who know me say they know me from Bali Hai aka the notorious "Club", that shows you how long and how low I have been on the scene. Mind you back in the day there was the odd gem in there especially if you popped in mid-afternoon and hit on one or two before they went to Falatehan.

Hilo77
11-01-14, 03:21
I'd rather give it to one of the satpams outside, who probably earn a quarter of what these old hags make in tips every month. And these are the real ones doing a real job, because you can bet once a vicious fight between two bules breaks out inside the bar or a gang of thugs turn up outside, those old hags certainly won't be there doing their "security fee" duties.

I hear what you're saying but they aren't mutually exclusive, I always slip tips here and there occasionally to staff and bouncers, it's just a small gesture and costs very little but in payback terms it's very worthwhile if you are a long-term resident and a regular at a place. I would do exactly the same thing in my favourite bar at home.

As a recent example of pay back from the "security" ladies, well see the newest dancer on stage, the cute little one that still looks fresh-faced? She's 20 and has a baby and her husband is a deadbeat (wow no surprise there then). Anyway a week or two back the night before she started dancing she arrived in at about 9 pm in jeans and a sweater and her "security" lady mentor immediately brought her to me for an introduction. I bought her a drink (orange juice, always a sure sign they're newbies, within a week they're knocking back Long Islands) got chatting and we had her first private dance within 15 minutes. She was a bit shy and a bit awkward at first but security lady gave her all the advice she needed and soon everything was going smoothly.

Next night there she was in her leopard print hot pants strutting her stuff and giving me a big wave from the stage. It's always nice to break the new ones in don't you think? She's the third I have had to pleasure of tupping before they go on stage. There's a couple of bar maids I'm discreetly seeing there too, again tips grease the wheels of info as to what's available, it's a very minor fee well worth paying, if they want to pretend it's for 'security' or I'm paying for the wet wipes I really couldn't care less.

Anyway the point I am making is that whether you pay the security lady is a matter of supreme indifference to her because she is going to get paid anyway. It's just that if you don't you're stiffing the dancer out of 10% of her hard-earned wages because you're leaving her to pick up the tab. Like I say, if I choose to frequent a place where attractive young women offer sexual favours to old geezers like me for cash I really don't want to get the reputation of being a cheap charlie. It's personal thing, I leave others to follow their own consciences and make no judgement one way or the other.

Good luck.

Member #4410
11-01-14, 04:01
Thanks Koperen Karel, Smoothy and Friends for your reaction on my question about Bars and Pubs in JAK.

I come to JAk in 10 days. First I stay 2 nights, than go inside the country for a week and than come back.

For 4 nights more.

I think to stay my first 2 nights in Ambhara hotel close to blokM and my next 4 nights in Mercure Kota hotel.

Near Mangabesar!

Good idea or not?For Blok M visits the Ambhara is a good choice. Good hotel within walking distance of Jalan Felatehan.

I don't have enough Kota experience to give solid advice but I have heard good things about Mercure Kota.

Redgards,

Ko.

Smoothy
11-01-14, 06:31
I heard that Dee's Place some 10 or 15 years ago didn't have any of that nonsense.Dee's opened around 2003 if I remember correctly. Almost the exact same time as My Bar (although Dee's did open a year or two before My Bar). Back in those days just before Dee's. Top Gun, Oscars, and Lintas Melawai were the hot spots on the Blok. The old routine was to grab something to eat at Sportsmans, then go to Top Gun early, head to Oscars around 10 or 11 pm, then hit Lintas Melawai at the Hotel Melawai by around 1 or 2 am and it went until around 5 am. Girls from all over Jakarta would end up at Lintas Melawai since places like Bats, Cjs, tiga puluh and the karaoke places closed earlier than Lintas. Tanamur and JJ's were still open back in those days as well. What a great time to be in Jakarta! Even back then, the old ladies were still hanging around in the corners of most places. The VIP room at Dees in the early days was so small, I don't remember them hanging out in there. I didn't go in that old vip room often because it was just too small. It didn't evolve into what it is now until they moved to the new location where it is now (Dees used to be next to Sportsmans). But just outside that old vip room, there were plenty of the old women looking for a handout.

From what I understand, most of those old hags used to be hookers on the Blok years and years ago. They never landed a "sponsor" with any money and are still on the Blok because they don't know anything else. A buddy of mine who used to live in Jakarta in the late 80's and early 90's came to town recently. I was shocked when he was fondling one of those old scrags. He told me that back in the late 80's she was the hottest girl on the Blok (I'd have never guessed it), and he thinks maybe he should have even married her. (what the heck?) I can understand him buying her beers and throwing her some money for old times sake. But he actually took her home that night and I think she ended up staying with him an entire month!

Hilo, I do agree that those old women can be a good way of getting introduced to the new and innocent girls. If one of those old women can hook me up with the lovely Miss Pretty, I would be willing to give the old woman a 500 k facilitation payment, no problem. As far as "security" in the back room, if I were to get a BJ back there, I would fine with giving 50 k to the old scrag if she gave me a good massage while she was providing that BJ "security". I do agree that the girls end up giving those women the money if you don't, but I think those old women should actually do a little something to earn the 50 k. Those women have strong hands, why not take advantage of that.

Egy, giving the satpams money is a good idea. That's one of the best suggestions to anyone. You never know what kind of trouble that could save you. The Blok is basically run by the mafia and although it's safe most times, it does have potential dangers. I know a guy who has slipped them money for years, and the one time he had trouble on the blok, it was amazing how quickly the satpams took care of the situation in his favor.

Smoothy
11-01-14, 06:38
The truly sad aspect of it is that most of the old dears who know me say they know me from Bali Hai aka the notorious "Club", that shows you how long and how low I have been on the scene. Mind you back in the day there was the odd gem in there especially if you popped in mid-afternoon and hit on one or two before they went to Falatehan.I loved the unisex bathroom in that place with that short wall you could see over. That was hilarious. The Club was a classic and probably the raunchiest place in Jakarta at one time. Haha. I agree it's sad that they know you from there though. Hell, they have likely given you a BJ on the far side of the bar there and you don't remember them. But they remember you. You are right that there was an occasional gem there, but not many. Still a classic place though for anyone who was in Jakarta in those days.

Willym888
11-01-14, 09:51
For Blok M visits the Ambhara is a good choice. Good hotel within walking distance of Jalan Felatehan.

I don't have enough Kota experience to give solid advice but I have heard good things about Mercure Kota.

Redgards,

Ko.I'm staying at the Grand Mercure Harmoni right now and can thoroughly recommend it. Its close to Malio / Classic / Travel / Kartika.

Can't comment on Mercure Kota as I haven't stayed there yet. Its just up the road from the Mercure Harmoni around from Manga Besar.

SeaTraveler
11-01-14, 13:07
I think to stay my first 2 nights in Ambhara hotel close to blokM and my next 4 nights in Mercure Kota hotel.
Good idea or not?I arrived in Indonesia about 3 months ago. I too work "in country" and have made about 6 multi-night trips to Jakarta. I stay at the Hotel Falatehan right at the end of Jl. Phlatahan St. A 1-minute walk to the Blok M bars.

The Hotel is nice and less expensive than Ambhara and very convenient. But there is no pool so if that is important stay at Ambhara. I have gotten the staff down to Rp 450,000 on a weekend. They are firm on 600 k on a weekday. Also, I like the Superior room because it has no window to the outside. No street noise. And therefore is quiet for sleeping after a long night of fun.

If you stay at Falatehan, you can walk between Payaraya Mall and Blok M Mall to Melawai Street. Turn right and walk 3 blocks to Hotel Melawi wherein resides the Maribaya Bar where some great girls provide some great relief. (See my review a week ago.). This is a great afternoon or early evening option before heading out to the bars for the night.

The routine that works for me is to go to BATS or CJ's around 10 pm. Each has a different crowd and where I go on any given night depends on my mood. I often look for the girl I want, chat a bit and either take her or get her mobil number and arrange to meet another time. For instance, when you return for the 4 days, you have a head start. My same night take-out rate is about 50/50.

I was here during Ramadan and Lebaran. I was thankful for my list of mobil numbers to sustain me thru the drought they call Lebaran.

Then I use Top Gun and My Bar as my relief outlet if I come home from the classy bars with just a phone number. On occasion I have even made a pick-up after the girl from the classy bars had gone home. It's just a stroll down the street to take a look and see if anyone fits my (or your) fancy.

Blok M prices are low enough (500 k) that on some evenings I can take 2 or 3 girls from Top Gun over a few hours for some fun, fun, fun. I think I delight the hotel night shift with my antics as they always wave and have a big smile.

Good luck & enjoy.

Traveler

DelBosque
11-01-14, 17:30
Thanks monger friends for your coorporatian. I remember you.

RoundUp
11-02-14, 21:55
Here is my line-up of places to visit: (yes in descending order).

Alexis
Malioboro
Classic
Travel
Bats
CJs
Oasis
Delta
My Place Spa
And Block M (gotta see it at least once)
I wanted to go to Red Square but I read it was closed now / getting renovated.

I have already read back a ton of pages over the past month. What else would you guys add to the list?
(Keep in mind I only have 10 days)This is an exceptionally helpful post.

I will be in Jakarta later this month for 8 days and booked the Keraton at the Plaza. My first visit to Jakarta.

I would have two question regarding this list:

1) What is the ranking pricewise from high to low?

2) Is any of those places located close to the Keraton (I have found BATS and CJ on the map already)?

I am looking for grils taking to the hotel for a full night. Semi-pros welcome.

Smoothy
11-03-14, 02:31
This is an exceptionally helpful post.
The guy who made that post has never even been to Jakarta.

RoundUp
11-03-14, 07:43
The guy who made that post has never even been to Jakarta.Okay, I see.

However, maybe someone can enlighten me.

Mighty Spearsman
11-03-14, 16:31
Okay, I see.

However, maybe someone can enlighten me.Pipelayer99's list consists of a mish-mash of different types of places, so let me try to sort them out:

Higher-end and higher-priced spas include Alexis and Malioboro. Alexis costs more and is higher-end (you will spend well over 1. 5 million here, RTFF) while Malioboro offers both Indonesian girls (over 750,000 rupiah) and foreign girls (well over 1 million rupiah). Both places offers in-house sessions that may last 1 to 2 hours; take-out is rare and would be expensive.

Lower-end and lower-priced massage spas include Travel and Classic, as well as Maribaya Spa (Hotel Melawai, Blok M) and, up north in Kota, Berlian and Kartika, which offers body-to-body full body slide massage (similar to nuru). IMHO every man should experience a 2-girl massage at Kartika at least once in their life; the only complaint about Kartika is that there are only 5 or 6 good looking girls working there, with the rest being older and / or chunky. Up to you.

Lower-end spas are also in-house, but if you find a girl you like, you can easily arrange for her to come to your hotel later at night, after her shift ends, for either a short session or overnight, for a reasonable price, similar to the Blok M girls and certainly less than the CJ's or BATS girls. The single best overnight session I've ever had in Jakarta was back in 2005 when Cynthia came over to my room at the Mandarin Oriental at 10 pm after her shift ended at Kartika, for less than 500,000 rupiah total including "taxi money. ".

Delta is an in-house massage place that focuses on the massage, not the extra services. You'll have no problem getting a handjob but anything beyond that is between you and the girl and is hard to predict. If you definitely want to have a FS session, then don't go here.

Somewhat higher-end, higher-priced night club spots include CJ's (Hotel Mulia), BATS (Hotel Shangri-La) and Tiga Puluh a / k / a "30 Bar" (Hotel LE Meridien). All have been open for years and are all well-known, they feature many attractive girls who will ask for at least 1 million or more at a minimum for ST, although you don't have to agree to paying that much.

Blok M (note the spelling) is the well-known lower-end, lower-priced section for night spots, referring to the many bars / night spots on Jalan Falatehan. Interestingly, some of the same girls that you'll see at BATS at 10 pm, asking for 1. 5 or 2 million, will be seen at Blok M at 1:30 or 2 am, asking a much lower price.

There's also a really low-end spectrum that includes the backpacker street, Jalan Jaksa, the women working the streets near the train stations, and the Kali Jodo neighborhood, but I would recommend you not bother with any of these places. There are many other places as well (I've been a customer at over 50 places in Jakarta in the last ten years) the above is just an introduction to the places that most visitors tend to go to.

So it's up to you what you'd like to experience during your Jakarta visit, and how much you have budgeted for mongering. Many of the regular posters here, including me, have had success in all of the above categories. Please RTFF for details, especially on the prices. I've been very general with referring to prices, my main goal was to illustrate the differences between the places, not give the definitive price.

Mighty Spearsman
11-03-14, 16:44
Very depressing news. A British guy in his late 20's was arrested over the weekend for gruesomely murdering 2 prostitutes in Hong Kong. One of the girls was from Indonesia, while the other girl was apparently from the Philippines, according to the UK paper the Daily Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2818080/Banked-chopped-prostitutes-Briton-called-insane-psychopath-faces-two-murder-charges-Hong-Kong.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/brit-rurik-jutting-charged-after-4555679

The story was covered in today's The Jakarta Post, where they confirm that one girl was Indonesian but speculate on the nationality of the other girl:

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/11/03/both-slain-women-hk-could-be-indonesian-govt.html

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/11/03/britton-face-trial-over-alleged-murders-hong-kong.html

Not surprisingly, the Hong Kong paper South China Morning Post has numerous articles on the event, including:

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1629862/foreign-national-arrested-police-investigate-double-wan-chai-murder

DelBosque
11-03-14, 17:45
I come next week to Jakarta. But go also to Ambon / Moluccas for one week. Have someone of the JAK. Informers any experience or info about this area? I was looking around in different forums, but nothing found.

Traveler1234
11-03-14, 18:08
Pipelayer99's list consists of a mish-mash of different types of places, so let me try to sort them out:You are too nice to these lazy bastards!

Pipe Layer99
11-03-14, 18:25
This is an exceptionally helpful post.
I will be in Jakarta later this month for 8 days and booked the Keraton at the Plaza. My first visit to Jakarta.
I would have two question regarding this list:
1) What is the ranking pricewise from high to low?
2) Is any of those places located close to the Keraton (I have found BATS and CJ on the map already)?
I am looking for grils taking to the hotel for a full night. Semi-pros welcome.You have to go back and read a bunch of pages to gather your intel. That was my personal tentative list as I prepare for yet another city in Asia. I'm glad you found it helpful. I generated that list by reading and taking notes. Lucky for you Mighty S spelled out a lot of details. Do yourself a favor and read the thread.

Willym888
11-03-14, 18:59
End of day 3 of 5 here in Jakarta staying at the Grand Mercure Harmoni which is near north Jakarta. Nice hotel about $70-$80 AUD per night.

Good location for activity around here including Malioboro, Classic, Travel, Kartika, Delta spa, Illegals. All very close by.

Latest reports on Classic and Travel ring true as both my experiences were very very average. The girls were hot though. Very routine. Virtually no GFE and CBJ both. More interested in themselves and personal hygiene than providing a quality service. I've had some crackers here in the past. But not this time round. I guess its the luck of the draw.

I suppose you get what you pay for at this end of the market.

I answered an ad on Jakarta backpage which turned out to be a cracker! Very GFE. Very sexy. Came to my hotel. 2 hrs - 1 mill. It sounds steep but when I compare it to my Classic / Travel experiences where you also pay for drinks / tip etc. I'd much rather have the GFE any day.

Delta Spa. Hot stone massage I'd highly recommend. Some very cute girls working there however you will only get a HJ at the most in the end. If you click with the massage girl I'm sure there's more on offer but not onsite. Pricey for a massage 600 k for 2 hours. But very relaxing.

The Grand Mercure has a spa on the 5th floor called SParadise. Massage price is 250 k - 350 k I recall. They have all the girls photos on a computer screen there for your viewing if they're not sitting there already. Extras are offered by the girls ranging from HJ to FJ. Dependent on the girls. Price is neg. At the time and varies depending on the girl and service.

I plan to return to Delta for another hot stone massage with a different cutey I saw on the way out.

Malioboro is also on the cards as its only a 3 minute walk from my hotel, also I want to checkout Fashion Spa / hotel which I have yet to experience. But from what I gathered online it may be worth a punt.

Cheers

Member #4410
11-03-14, 21:52
Very depressing news. A British guy in his late 20's was arrested over the weekend for gruesomely murdering 2 prostitutes in Hong Kong. One of the girls was from Indonesia, while the other girl was apparently from the Philippines, according to the UK paper the Daily Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2818080/Banked-chopped-prostitutes-Briton-called-insane-psychopath-faces-two-murder-charges-Hong-Kong.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/brit-rurik-jutting-charged-after-4555679

The story was covered in today's The Jakarta Post, where they confirm that one girl was Indonesian but speculate on the nationality of the other girl:

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/11/03/both-slain-women-hk-could-be-indonesian-govt.html

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/11/03/britton-face-trial-over-alleged-murders-hong-kong.html

Not surprisingly, the Hong Kong paper South China Morning Post has numerous articles on the event, including:

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1629862/foreign-national-arrested-police-investigate-double-wan-chai-murderI was amazed at the amount of personal details of everybody, both victims and accused, was published in these papers. In the (unlikely) event that this bloke is innocent his face is kmown world-wide, but this is one thing. Worse is that every single detail of the girls life was spelled out. In the Netherlands this is not even done by the most scandal-lusting daily paper. Is this normal in Britain and Hong Kong?

Regards.

Ko.