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Member #4698
01-11-15, 15:09
P.S. First night you arrive late right, well BATS is open till 3 am and BlokM same. Nth later again, but the spots up there are more of a challenge for a newbie first time.To start my big 2015 SEA trip I will be flying into Jakarta late at night after an impossible 26 hour duration flight from the south eastern USA on United Airlines and her sister carrier Ana. My flight is scheduled to arrive at around 11:30 pm local time. I will be tired for sure, but I know from many past experiences of arriving into HKG and MNL at night after a long flight that my adrenaline will be pumping and sleep is out of the question. So the issue is where to go on my 1st night back in town to kick things off right and have a really good time. After a little thought I whittled it down to 3 possiblities: Bats, Blok M, or Malioboro (Malio Club). Then it was an easy decision and not much of a contest which of the three to head for. So after I check into my hotel and freshen up a little, I will be going straight to Malioboro or Malio Club (don't know which until I get there) where I know I am going to have a guaranteed great time with little or no effort. (Remember, I am going to be tried from the long flight and do not want a sleepover.) Afterwards I will crash and reset my internal clock. I am really looking forward to my 2nd trip to Jakarta. The girls here are among the best in Asia.

Dg1980
01-11-15, 16:06
I have been to Jakarta once before about 4 years ago. Veteran of many other countries but still something of a newbie in Indonesia. Returning for a second time in a few days time for my second tour, this time armed with RTFF info.

Anyone up for a day / night out, PM me.

Cheers,

Dg1980

Psychman
01-11-15, 16:40
Hard Hat Mate- Thanks so much for your very detailed post- it was very helpful. I will send a PM. As a follow up, I love diversity in clubs- I am sure CJs and BATS will be great, and actually love love hard house, tribal and other electronica. Not every night, but.

Thanks for the hotel feedback. One more question. Work colleagues are going to pick me up in Jakarta from a couple hours away. Will the Mercure Kota scream "monger in sex tourist area", or will it be a fine place for them to come and get me. I will actually have six nights before they come for me, and after a bit more reading, am thinking of staying the whole time there. Yet, if it will raise questions, I will move a more business oriented hotel in Central Jakarta.

Beyond excited for this trip- one month to go.

Bkk212
01-11-15, 21:19
Your mistake, with the greatest of respect, was even discussing the price.

After you have enjoyed the lady's company, and she's all showered, dressed up and ready for the door, slip her a previously prepared 500,000 (if it was short time, I have no idea of long time prices, others can provide that info but the procedure is the same) into her pocket or purse, give her a peck on the cheek and a pat on her pert ass as you usher her out the door. Once in a while she may check the money as she is leaving (and in fairness there are cheap assholes out there who would lead her to do so) and pout sadly and say "Tambahin dong" ("Give us a bit more, eh? " ) . If she did a great job and her pout melts your heart, with a look of feigned exasperation you can slip her an extra fifty, if she wasn't worth it, a friendly wink and a slightly firmer pat on the backside toward the open door will do the trick.

Rest assured you will have paid a fair wage for a fair job. Honor will be even and no distress will have been caused.I am a bit late in responding but I do have some details to share with the forum. Yes I do agree that discussing was a mistake but I tried to avoid that after I realized my mistake up front in not asking. But while I was trying to leave with her (she can't speak English), about 4:30 am her friend came running after us to discuss on her behalf.

I did see her a few more times in My Bar and she was in that 'clique' of girls, the group of cuties that hang out together. Maybe that's the new 1 M gang.

Anyway I did meet some others that were not so cute and they started at 800 k but was negotiable. Maybe this new gang have their set price and won't discount.

The few times I did see her after she ignored me (as expected) but I didn't see her with anyone else either, as night's end she would leave with her friends alone (as far as I can tell).

Anyway live and learn and me other posts will explain maybe not going with her was a mistake.

And I also agree with Smoothy's comments about the quality of girls in Blok M they are mostly 4/5 but once in a while you do get a gem.

Bkk212
01-11-15, 21:34
Just returned from my holidays in Jakarta and I must say the quality and quantity of girls in Blok M has decreased considerably and I have been going there for many years. In my previous post I did explain my meeting with the M $ baby, but I did also meet some regular girls that maybe would be 4/5. They seem to have a fixed routine for asking price start at 800 but they are negotiable and will discount.

I can't speak Indonesian so I try to meet someone who can speak a little English. First girl I met had a baby and it showed when we returned to the hotel, and she was just a regular performer nothing special so just went with her the 1 time. Did see her a few more times in the bar but only Hi / Hello I didn't want to repeat. However, 2 days before I left I saw her with a group of her friends (Saturday night) and there was some beauties in that group, I didn't approach as I feared the 1 M price tag once again.

The second person also had a baby but she was more in shape, flat stomach, and nice legs but she can swear like a drunken sailor. She was ok but again not special but I did repeat a few times after recovering from her abusive texts.

The next person I met was a disaster, I finally know what the term "dead fish" means. Was I ever suckered with this girl.

Member #4410
01-12-15, 10:51
Your inbox is full, so my PM bounced.

See you tomorrow evening; Menteng will be there too.

UsPete
01-12-15, 11:00
Hard Hat Mate- Thanks so much for your very detailed post- it was very helpful. I will send a PM. As a follow up, I love diversity in clubs- I am sure CJs and BATS will be great, and actually love love hard house, tribal and other electronica. Not every night, but.

Thanks for the hotel feedback. One more question. Work colleagues are going to pick me up in Jakarta from a couple hours away. Will the Mercure Kota scream "monger in sex tourist area", or will it be a fine place for them to come and get me. I will actually have six nights before they come for me, and after a bit more reading, am thinking of staying the whole time there. Yet, if it will raise questions, I will move a more business oriented hotel in Central Jakarta.

Beyond excited for this trip- one month to go.Psychman.

Be careful there are two Mercure's in Hayam Waruk Street. The recommendation is the "Gran Mercure" in Harmoni area. This is the one with the large pool, new sauna and gym overlooking the Transjakarta station (direct to Blok M) and street. It's also conveniently across the road / canal from Malioboro / Malio club (two venues in one).

It's a modern and respectable hotel which is popular for weddings so your colleagues wifes / families would approve of it. It's also close to national museum, grand mosques etc. So would suit the average joe public tourist.

The other mercure is an old hotel and half the price for good reason.

If you are wanting to explore south Jakarta I guess the hotels in Kemang e. G Swiss Bell. Would be an interesting option though to get a gym and pool you'd be paying twice the price of Gran Mercure.

If I had a week in Jakarta I would probably only make one visit to Bats / CJs. The rest would definatley be North to experience the sweat, smells and deep house of the clubs and parlours that Jakarta is renowned for.

Menteng
01-12-15, 16:37
Back in Jakarta, but with a big difference!. Somehow some kind of relationship with someone I know for years, just happened. Is it good? Not if you want to keep contributing FR's to ISG.

However, "meeting an old friend" was good enough to provide me with some time to meet a very well-known member of this thread, one afternoon, in the Kota area. We exchanged novelties while enjoying a steak at Abuba and due to the lack of time, we headed the the nearest spots: Kartika, Berlian and the first in the row in that alley (forgot the name).

The first one had a lot of young 6-7/10, but since no one of them reacted to our entrance, I decided to go to the next place, Berlian. More of the same reaction there actually, only, the mamasan kept pushing to take one. Just as we were to leave the place, a bubbly girl, in the literal and figurative sense, prevented us from doing that. Her looks were ok, but she was too fat for my taste. I still wanted to see what Kartika had to offer, so we went there. My bad, somehow, that afternoon, the reception in the 3 places was far from being great! What a deception! But, since I wanted to make the most of my time, I decided to go back to the bubbly girl.

In the room she started undressing me while teasing my dick with her hands and her tongue. I thought that that was a good start. Then I had to lay face-down and she started to give a decent massage. At some point she reached under my body and started giving a HJ. I soon turned around and asked her to continue with BBBJ. I also tried to get an AR, but she wasn't very willing to do that. Still I managed to push her head in the right direction to receive sporadic strokes of her tongue on the right spot. This cat and mouse game continued a few minutes until I was ready to come. I moved her mouth over my dick and after a few up and down movements I shot my load in her mouth while she kept on sucking.

When we were showering afterwards, of course, my mobile phone rang. I guess you'll all know who was at the other end of the line. I managed to find a window so street noises were to be heard by her when she asked me where I was! I'm walking to the Transjakarta busstop, dear!

PS I tried to post a photo of bubbly, but failed. Is it because I use a proxy?

Clear Water
01-13-15, 14:29
Your inbox is full, so my PM bounced.

See you tomorrow evening; Menteng will be there too.I'm so Jealous of you guys catching up.

Did you get the chance to meet up with JAD?

Have fun and reports please.

Psychman
01-14-15, 00:59
Psychman.

Be careful there are two Mercure's in Hayam Waruk Street. The recommendation is the "Gran Mercure" in Harmoni area. This is the one with the large pool, new sauna and gym overlooking the Transjakarta station (direct to Blok M) and street. It's also conveniently across the road / canal from Malioboro / Malio club (two venues in one).

It's a modern and respectable hotel which is popular for weddings so your colleagues wifes / families would approve of it. It's also close to national museum, grand mosques etc. So would suit the average joe public tourist.

The other mercure is an old hotel and half the price for good reason.

If you are wanting to explore south Jakarta I guess the hotels in Kemang e. G Swiss Bell. Would be an interesting option though to get a gym and pool you'd be paying twice the price of Gran Mercure.

If I had a week in Jakarta I would probably only make one visit to Bats / CJs. The rest would definatley be North to experience the sweat, smells and deep house of the clubs and parlours that Jakarta is renowned for.Thanks so much for your response. I actually booked at the older, more "naughty" and cheaper location, the Mercure Kota for 6 nights (paid through Agoda). I might actually get another room for the final night at a more "respectable" hotel- I need to check out the vibe of my colleagues and the hotel / area. The Mercure Kota is cheap enough that it is not a big deal.

I may (or may not) stay South on the final leg of the trip- I will have six days on the ground to see how I feel. I may even fly to Bali for a few. Very excited for all that Jakarta has to offer, from the Deep House clubs, to the high end spas, to mid range places like Travel, to CJs and Bats, Blok M, ect. As with all my trips, I over prepare, and once I am there, I go with the flow. Just how I roll.

LA Guy 5
01-14-15, 01:58
Thanks so much for your response. I actually booked at the older, more "naughty" and cheaper location, the Mercure Kota for 6 nights (paid through Agoda). I might actually get another room for the final night at a more "respectable" hotel- I need to check out the vibe of my colleagues and the hotel / area. The Mercure Kota is cheap enough that it is not a big deal.

I may (or may not) stay South on the final leg of the trip- I will have six days on the ground to see how I feel. I may even fly to Bali for a few. Very excited for all that Jakarta has to offer, from the Deep House clubs, to the high end spas, to mid range places like Travel, to CJs and Bats, Blok M, ect. As with all my trips, I over prepare, and once I am there, I go with the flow. Just how I roll.Although I haven't stayed at the Mercure Kota, I have been there for lunch. Based on appearances, it is not luxury but doesn't seem bad. And I tend to like the location more than the Mercure Harmoni (closer to the down and dirty Kota bars), although if one gravitates to the higher-end Malioboro (as many do) the Mercure Harmoni would be closer. The newer Mercure at Harmoni is more of a higher-quality hotel (perhaps 4-star to Kota's 3 or 3 1/2 star), but that doesn't detract from the acceptability of the Mercure Kota. Then again, I haven't stayed in any of the rooms there so my information is not complete.

Member #4410
01-14-15, 14:51
Your inbox is full, so my PM bounced.

See you tomorrow evening; Menteng will be there too.

We could almost have held a congress last night <grin> ; Egy Monger, Menteng, Smoothy and myself at the bar in D's and Cooze Hound would have joined too if his stomach hadn't protested too much.

Good enoough for a repeat in future.

Regards,

Ko.

Menteng
01-14-15, 15:54
We could almost have held a congress last night <grin> ; Egy Monger, Menteng, Smoothy and myself at the bar in D's and Cooze Hound would have joined too if his stomach hadn't protested too much.

Good enoough for a repeat in future.

Regards,

Ko.Looking forward to it!

Sean EZ
01-14-15, 23:23
Discos in Jakarta are an acquired taste, I assume you mean the hardcore stuff as reference to your comment about the girls being on it. The hardcore Kota clubs are only for those who are young or young at heart and have an inclination for dance music, if your NOT then you will be annoyed with the amount of young hotties off their face, the unique kota tribal dance music, the damn damn loud music and the very very dangerous conditions (my biggest problem is relaxing when I'm in a club full of people off their face, on the 4th floor and there is 1 exit in and out). Back to freelancers in Nth Jakarta. Ok so again I am going to be controversial here, but the way I see it is every single Indonesian girl under 30 in Nth Jakarta, without a BF and not Indo Chinese IS after 10 pm a freelancer. OK Ok so I am generalizing, but basically get out around Hayum Waruk and Lokassari at midnight and their all on the game.

Cheers HHM.I just spend two weekends in Jakarta. This is by far the most interesting and accurate post.

Here is my highlights.

Girl clubs.

Malioboro Sat night, 10 PM. Amazing place full of energy, girl DJ's, lots of naked girls on middle stage changing. A must visit! Girls all have trimmed Bush, it's like part of their uniform. Lots of cute side-line girls sitting around, talk with mamasan to inquire. My understanding cost is 800-1 M give or take. Then you get constantly approached by couples of girls; your choice to chat with them or buy them drinks. The stage girls some do BJ's some don't, more expensive. Not sure about exact prices. Also check out upstairs. I really enjoyed it there. So many not girls in one place. I think there is also a spa, I didn't go.

Alexis Sun night. Compared to Malioboro the spa 7th floor is much more quite relaxed place. Girls sit in batches, based on nationality. Local (and some very cute) are 1-1. 2 M. You've got a variety of other nationalities incl Vietnam, China, Kazak for up to 2. 3 M I chatted with Kazak girl, super friendly and cute. Shuts early, like 1 or 2 am on weekdays and Sunday. A very nice place to relax early evenings. Nice spa.

Check out Classic, a cheaper option to the above. You've got floor 1 and 5, found both similar. Girls are 3. 5 K and 700 for 2, special. Hot non-sideline girls, approach you with mamasan. They want you to buy them shots (I think it was 50 K a shot) to play with their tits and asses. Got quoted 1. 3 M for one of these. Classic is a class below Malioboro and Alexis, hence cheaper prices. But you can find a hot one.

BATS, Sunday 8 PM or so, was slow and I left. Didn't get a chance to checkout CJ.

BLOK M, a good late hour option, only been to MyBar, but there are other clubs on the block. But will take time to find one you like, it's bit seedy and you don't get to meet a girl in bikini to take a good look first. This is cool though if you like FL's and some game. Overall not very impressed with quality.

Malls.

Grand Plaza Indonesia is great for food, lots of restaurants from all corners of Asia. As far as girls, you are not in LA or Miami, you will walk a mile before seeing a hot girl. That's my opinion of course.

Normal clubs.

Your best bet to start the night is Potato Head lounge for a drink, then Immigrant. Also you've got a lot of good clubs around Potato Head. These are highest end places, but I can't say that these high end girls are much better quality than elsewhere (or this could be New Years week and hot ones were in Bali). I heard there you can meet a "good" girl. I would have a couple of drinks and get numbers, and move on to North.

North clubs.

Gold Crown Bar, huge, happening every day. Lots of FL's, some will wait to be approached, some approach you. Another really good option for crazy clubbing is Melli's Entertainment. I was there until 3 PM next day and it was still on. Like the OP said, you must understand your way around club scene, being able to mingle with all the Hi girls, enjoy music and dance. Best go with a local to show you around. For me these places were the most fun, crazy and unpredictable, I love the hunt in clubs.

The music in the North is same or similar tune, the kind I couldn't really figure out, a mix of tribal / dub / techno; Melli's has one room with more mainstream techno / deep house. Keep in mind drinks are pricey in all these clubs, so 120-150 K per drink (comes to 5-8 pounds per drink), still cheaper than London but you are not in London.

Taxi.

Most will use meter, so really no issues there, very cheap, but if you are not staying at a one of the main hotels be prepared to explain exactly where it is and best show them google map on your phone.

Overall quite impressed with nightlife and the city.

Member #4537
01-15-15, 08:48
We could almost have held a congress last night <grin> ; Egy Monger, Menteng, Smoothy and myself at the bar in D's and Cooze Hound would have joined too if his stomach hadn't protested too much.

Good enoough for a repeat in future.

Regards,

Ko.Yes it was like a mini-congress.

It's a shame the back room was empty that night.

Also seemed the dancers on stage were reluctant to go in the back room.

Member #4537
01-15-15, 08:50
BATS, Sunday 8 PM or so, was slow and I left. Didn't get a chance to checkout CJ.Even though it's free entry on Sundays it's still the emptiest day of the week.

And 8 PM is a bit too early, better to go around 10 when the band starts playing. Doesn't get packed until 12.

Smoothy
01-15-15, 15:50
CJ's would have also been empty at 8 pm. Not just on Sunday, but any night. That's too early to go out.

Member #4410
01-16-15, 14:39
Yes it was like a mini-congress.

It's a shame the back room was empty that night.

Also seemed the dancers on stage were reluctant to go in the back room.I'm not too concerned if I'm the only visitor to the backroom, but everyone has their own preferences. I agree that "the more the merrier" but if other people are not inclined, I think it's their loss. Not all dancers want to go to the backroom (Mila is one of them) but many are quite keen for the extra income. Chacha (the one in the red T-shirt where Smoothy was quite keen on) is enthousiastic, as are Ayu and Indi and a number of others. Maybe you just left too soon.

I hope we can repeat some time.

Regards,

Ko.

LionKing777
01-16-15, 20:00
Landed around noon for my first visit to Jakarta. Checked into Holiday Inn Express Thamrin. A decent reasonably priced hotel in Central Jakarta. No issues with girls coming in for overnight.

About 9 PM, I went over to BATS in Shangrila. It is a short distance. But, was advised by the reception to take a taxi. Apparently, after 9, it is not very safe to walk around. The hotel lobby is majestic. Even at 9, crowd was decent. There was a lively band. Started talking to a girl, who was shy and seemed like a regular office worker. Claimed to be a insurance firm staff with high school education. Quoted 1 million for short time, but I stuck to 600 K. She agreed to that and seemed in a hurry to close the deal and get away.

A short taxi ride took us to the hotel, where we spent about 90 minutes with real GFE. Bliss.

Irish Mongrel
01-16-15, 20:41
CJ's doesn't open till 9 pm (may have changed since it's been a couple of years since I've stayed in the Mulia). Went down once at 8.45 pm and walked inside to a few strange looks. The guys weren't even on the doors yet, but since I was a guest they sat me down, grabbed me a drink and continued on setting up. Was interesting watching the place fill up through the night!


CJ's would have also been empty at 8 pm. Not just on Sunday, but any night. That's too early to go out.

Smoothy
01-17-15, 06:32
Maybe you just left too soon.
Leave one good place, and end up at another good place. You can't swing a dead cat in Jakarta without hitting a great place to have a good time. At the place we ended up, there was a nude dancer with a beautiful trimmed and meaty pussy about 6 feet from my face. That image may be forever imprinted in my mind. That was so damn hot! One of the nicest pussies I've seen in a long time. Mesmerizing. Too bad she had a bit of a butter face.

Then ended up for an hour's meeting in a private room to discuss International relations with this charming debutante who is a fan of America.

D Cups
01-17-15, 17:59
Nice rack, too, thanks. How much did you pay and where, please? Thanks.


Leave one good place, and end up at another good place. You can't swing a dead cat in Jakarta without hitting a great place to have a good time. At the place we ended up, there was a nude dancer with a beautiful trimmed and meaty pussy about 6 feet from my face. That image may be forever imprinted in my mind. That was so damn hot! One of the nicest pussies I've seen in a long time. Mesmerizing. Too bad she had a bit of a butter face.

Then ended up for an hour's meeting in a private room to discuss International relations with this charming debutante who is a fan of America..

Member #4537
01-17-15, 18:33
Started talking to a girl, who was shy and seemed like a regular office worker. Claimed to be a insurance firm staff with high school education.Rest assured no so-called "regular office worker" would be caught dead at these places as they would be afraid of getting caught by their male colleagues who may be frequenting these places as well.

It's just a clever tactic they use so they can up the ante so to speak and get more money from you if you go with her or even have you fall in love with her so you send her money (while she fucks around, of course). Part-time "model", actor, teacher, marketing director, college student, daughter of a wealthy businessman, blah blah blah. It's all a bunch of lies to get you to think she's above the pack / competition and isn't just any hardcore hooker.

Member #4410
01-18-15, 11:49
<SNIP>

Then ended up for an hour's meeting in a private room to discuss International relations with this charming debutante who is a fan of America.Nice assets.

Member #4410
01-18-15, 12:48
I'm not too concerned if I'm the only visitor to the backroom, but everyone has their own preferences. I agree that "the more the merrier" but if other people are not inclined, I think it's their loss. Not all dancers want to go to the backroom (Mila is one of them) but many are quite keen for the extra income. Chacha (the one in the red T-shirt where Smoothy was quite keen on) is enthousiastic, as are Ayu and Indi and a number of others. Maybe you just left too soon.

I hope we can repeat some time.

Regards,

Ko.Friday night was G-string and bra day for the red dancing team (there were 3 teams) with Chacha taking the initiative and the rest following. Many trips to the back room by dancers and freelancers. A number of quite saucy ex-dancers (according to Ayu) up on stage. Good atmosphere all around. Later I sat down with Ayu and Inka (who had turned 26 at 12) to discuss my upcoming return home. Then I took them both back for a BJ. They took turns and I came in Inka's mouth. Ayu sucked me clean. Nice end to my Jakarta trip.

Regards,

Ko.

Possessed Seoul
01-18-15, 15:08
OK, so the two single, university educated girls I worked with at a multi-national company who regularly went to BATS, Tiga Puluh, Red Square and even the block were really hookerrs in disguise? Of course those places are full of working girls, but they are not all on the game. Sure, some supplement their wages (the very definition of a semi-pro), others are looking for a boyfriend, some just want to get their drink on and dance. I remember a friend who has been here much longer than I have saying when I first arrived that the thing he loved about BATS was running into girls he'd met while doing business here. I do take your point about the marketing ploy, I remember one well-used Jaksa lady popping up on a dating site claiming to work in a position she could not spell and in fact, the only position she was capable of holding would have been on her hands and knees with her ass in the air. However, what you have said, with all due respect, has not been what I have experienced here.


Rest assured no so-called "regular office worker" would be caught dead at these places as they would be afraid of getting caught by their male colleagues who may be frequenting these places as well.

It's just a clever tactic they use so they can up the ante so to speak and get more money from you if you go with her or even have you fall in love with her so you send her money (while she fucks around, of course). Part-time "model", actor, teacher, marketing director, college student, daughter of a wealthy businessman, blah blah blah. It's all a bunch of lies to get you to think she's above the pack / competition and isn't just any hardcore hooker.

Hung Man 1808
01-18-15, 16:32
OK, so the two single, university educated girls I worked with at a multi-national company who regularly went to BATS, Tiga Puluh, Red Square and even the block were really hookerrs in disguise? Probably not, but I don't think they'd want too many knowing they are regulars at BATS (especially at work) depending on the 'era'. Over time, BATS seems to move towards a legitimate bar with many girls going for just a good time, and then seems to move back to being basically 100% working girl. And then the cycle starts again. The same seems to go for most bars that are not high end hangouts for locals that expats are also known to attend.

I've had almost no luck in getting anything resembling a 'normal' girl to go near Blok M bars, even the mention of the place seems to invoke a look of disgust and horror, so well done on finding some who did go!

Member #4537
01-18-15, 16:49
OK, so the two single, university educated girls I worked with at a multi-national company who regularly went to BATS, Tiga Puluh, Red Square and even the block were really hookerrs in disguise? Of course those places are full of working girls, but they are not all on the game. Sure, some supplement their wages (the very definition of a semi-pro), others are looking for a boyfriend, some just want to get their drink on and dance. I remember a friend who has been here much longer than I have saying when I first arrived that the thing he loved about BATS was running into girls he'd met while doing business here. I do take your point about the marketing ploy, I remember one well-used Jaksa lady popping up on a dating site claiming to work in a position she could not spell and in fact, the only position she was capable of holding would have been on her hands and knees with her ass in the air. However, what you have said, with all due respect, has not been what I have experienced here.What kind of work are we talking about here? Secretarial part-time?

As someone who frequents BATS nearly every other day on a daily basis for years and picked up many, I've yet to find one who truly is who she claims to be. Yes, a tiny minority aren't looking for money or aren't in the game (almost definitely they only go there during weekends), but sooner or later you'll find out they are truly on the game but may be taking a break or have an ex-client who went back to his country sending them money.

Simply put, no self-respecting "university educated girl" working at a "multi-national company" will hang out at the Blok M bars or even BATS (you may have been confused when you saw guests of the hotel which sometimes visit the bar).

Dig beneath the surface and you'll smell the bullshit soon enough.

Many say they're models, but turns out only got themselves on a quarter of a page of some shitty local brand which she paid for anyway to get herself published. The other says she's an actress, but only made a 5-second appearance in some TV ad 5 or 6 years ago. Then there's the teacher who doesn't even teach but gets away with the excuse easily because of her English. Then there's the one with the Mercedes E-Class who says she's some daughter of a well-connected businessman but truth she got it from her bule ex-husband who can't legally get back his car because of the way laws are here. Oh and let's not forget the so-called University students with fake ids (easily available, especially the Trisakti ones)?

Then there's those who want you to feel sorry for them and say they're just doing this to support their 2 kids with a deadbeat father but sooner or later you'll discover they're spending all their money on the genuine Gucci and LV bags, whitening creams and so on whilst dumping their kids who they probably haven't seen or care about in a few years over to Grandma in the Kampung.

Bottom line is, although a great portion of the CJ's and BATS hookers are educated by local standards, they're just too lazy to get a regular job (of which there are plenty available) when turning 1 or 2 tricks every month pretty much gives them the same income they'd otherwise get working 12 hours a day for 25 days a month.

LionKing777
01-18-15, 19:33
After the great first night with the Indo "office worker", called her at 5 in the next afternoon, for a session at the hotel at 10. No sign till 10-15. Sent a reminder text. Got a reply that she will arrive at 11. Still no sign and no response to my phone calls too. Finally, at about midnight responded stating that she had fallen asleep. I said no issue, come now. She was not willing stating that her college going sister is with her and she cannot go out at that hour of the night. She was willing to come over in the morning and I was not willing for that. Finally, I decided to hit BATS after midnight and it was rocking. Met up with a mid 20 beauty from Vietnam, who had arrived in Jakarta only the day before with a friend from Singapore. A short time deal was fixed at one million.

She was great in bed. Confided that she worked in Dubai, but not in Vietnam. Did not have a man for the last 11/2 months and was quite hungry for sex. Kept saying "Your cock beautiful". Made my night.

My short visit to Jakarta was for only 2 days and I am sure to get back soon. Do not know whether I was plain lucky or what. But, my 2 encounters in Jakarta was among the very best for me.

Member #4410
01-18-15, 21:10
A few pictures to show the dance clothes of the dancers who also went to the VIP room. Inka was the only one wearing a short dress over her string.

Regards,

Ko.

Smoothy
01-19-15, 01:12
Karel, I was wondering what outfits they wore. I missed it that Friday night. Too bad I didn't know about it.

I ended up stuck in my room with this girl that night. Damn it all.

Menteng
01-19-15, 07:39
Karel, I was wondering what outfits they wore. I missed it that Friday night. Too bad I didn't know about it.

I ended up stuck in my room with this girl that night. Damn it all.Oh, brother, how I feel sorry for you!!

Next time you want her off your chest, or other part of your body, don't hesitate to call me to keep her busy. So you can go and join KK.

Sean EZ
01-19-15, 21:58
Bottom line is, although a great portion of the CJ's and BATS hookers are educated by local standards, they're just too lazy to get a regular job (of which there are plenty available) when turning 1 or 2 tricks every month pretty much gives them the same income they'd otherwise get working 12 hours a day for 25 days a month.When I meet "any" girl in Jakarta / Indonesia I assume she's working at least part time. I can't help thinking otherwise. You may be able to meet a "nice" girl who works in the mall, but I haven't seen any hot girls on the streets or malls. All the hot ones are in the clubs, strip clubs, and spas like Alexis, etc. So I don't bother looking for "normal" girl or a "good girl", I am looking for Hot and little bit of game.

BTW HIV is on the rise in Indonesia, especially in Jakarta. I've read statistics that up to 9 percent of WG's in Jakarta are HIV positive. Be careful.

Bkk212
01-20-15, 05:02
My New year adventure turned into a nightmare with a girl I met in Blok M, knew her by name as she was / is a friend of a former girl that I had met years before but was I ever in for a.

Surprise.

Day 1 - it was late at night when I met her outside the bars and started to talk with her catching up on her friend etc. About 5:00 am decided it was time to go to the hotel and she wanted to come with me, I should have declines as I was tired. So got back to the hotel in time to just sleep, she stayed over until 2 pm the next day but refused my advances in the morning. Said she was tired.

Day 2 - She came over the next night about 10:00 pm, she texted me and asked if I wanted her to come over and I said yes. Thinking that maybe we could start over from where we never started the night before. When she arrived within 10 minutes (really 10 mins) she wanted to go, that should have been my RED FLAG. So I being caught off guard said ok go. If you want to go then leave, I was thinking it was early so I could still hit the bars. Then she pulled a 180 after doing something on her phone, she decided to stay. Well did I ever get the shy treatment she went under the covers and wouldn't come out or let me do anything, so I finally gave up and just watched TV, all the while thinking I let a Saturday night catch me bored at home. Once again she left at 2:00 pm the next day Sunday. I should have been wised to her tricks but it gets worse.

For a few days I didn't see at Blok M not that I was looking for her, I wasn't my mind was focused on other beauties that were hanging around and wondering if they too were $M babies. Then I saw her hiding from me in a corner of the bar and now I thought that's fine, I won't have to speak with her and I will be leaving Jakarta soon so find another girl for a few days.

Not so as I fell for the trap once again, Day 3 and day 4 coming soon.

Hilo77
01-20-15, 10:30
I have been chatting online for a while with a nice lady, a process frankly that bores me stiff but is part of the essential groundwork involved in our happy hobby.

The lady has sent me several photos two of which show her wearing different slinky outfits against the same background, a background which appears to be a nightclub somewhere. Now given that I don't participate in the club scene anymore I can't identify it, so who better than to ask the knowledgeable chaps of this forum.

Can anyone identify this background? It would certainly save me an immense amount of time, money and effort if I could simply confirm what I already suspect about the young lady in question and get right down to business.

By the way there have been some nice pictures posted recently my apologies for posting such prosaic fare as this.

Member #4537
01-20-15, 12:34
may be able to meet a "nice" girl who works in the mall, but I haven't seen any hot girls on malls.You haven't seen any hot chics in the malls? Are you serious? Whenever I hang out at Plaza Senayan or Grand Indonesia, I see plenty of attractive women better than anything the Kota places offer. It's the same with Thailand though. For a majority of these chics to be with a foreigner there's a whole shame and embarrassment factor they don't want to be involved in.

Member #4410
01-20-15, 17:41
Karel, I was wondering what outfits they wore. I missed it that Friday night. Too bad I didn't know about it.

I ended up stuck in my room with this girl that night. Damn it all.I feel really sorry for you.

Sean EZ
01-20-15, 22:01
You haven't seen any hot chics in the malls? Are you serious? Whenever I hang out at Plaza Senayan or Grand Indonesia, I see plenty of attractive women better than anything the Kota places offer. It's the same with Thailand though. For a majority of these chics to be with a foreigner there's a whole shame and embarrassment factor they don't want to be involved in.I didn't see anyone who caught my attention. I like them wearing nice jeans / dresses and on hill shoes. I saw a few well dressed hot girls Chinese maybe, and some other with foreigners whom I thought to have possibly been expats-dating from Singapore. Not sure about shame, the ones I've met seem to be proudly posting pics with white males on their facebook walls both in Jakarta and Manila. They love blue eyes. In the malls and streets to my surprise I was not at all impressed in Jakarta and especially Manila. You walk around a mall in NY / Miami / LA / Moscow / Minsk you see hot, IMHO.

I thought girls in Bangkok dress better and look after themselves, and heard really good things about girls in Vietnam but I haven't been yet.

Anyways I don't mean to turn this into an argument, everyone's taste is different and there are plenty of pretty girls in Jakarta to be found. Nightlife is great, girls are receptive, was one of my best Asia trips overall.

Hilo77
01-21-15, 02:55
You haven't seen any hot chics in the malls? Are you serious? Whenever I hang out at Plaza Senayan or Grand Indonesia, I see plenty of attractive women better than anything the Kota places offer. It's the same with Thailand though. For a majority of these chics to be with a foreigner there's a whole shame and embarrassment factor they don't want to be involved in.The "shame" element is entirely relative and works both ways.

In precisely the same way that we cringe when we see a bule bloke strolling through Plaza Indonesia escorted by some girl who is quite obviously a dolly bird he picked up in a Falatehan bar the night before (or in the case of the eejits who marry them, 10 years before, and isn't the sight of faded tattoos on 40-year-old, smoke-lined, brown skin so appealing?) so a well-educated Indonesian woman who comes from a wealthy family will not want to walk around with a guy in a Bir Bintang tank top, shorts, flip-flops and a mullet hair-do, or a pot-bellied 50-year-old English First teacher in his shirt and slacks he bought in Hypermart (with obligatory hand phone pouch on his belt for quick access to his urgent callers) but if he's dressed in decent business attire and clearly has a good job she will have absolutely no problem hanging on his elbow.

It's horses for courses. Not complicated at all when you think about it, just like attitudes in the West.

P.S. I have identified the club in the picture below as X2, a haunt of regular girls and not a pick-up joint if I have read the reviews correctly. I might give her a miss, I haven't the time or energy to be dealing with clubbers.

Mighty Spearsman
01-21-15, 04:41
I didn't see anyone who caught my attention. I like them wearing nice jeans / dresses and on hill shoes. I saw a few well dressed hot girls Chinese maybe, and some other with foreigners whom I thought to have possibly been expats-dating from Singapore.Please don't forget that Indonesia is over 90% Muslim! You simply won't see many "hot-dressed" Indonesian girls in public malls (other than the Chinese) unless it's Friday or Saturday evening and they are on their way to a club.

Biz99
01-21-15, 16:57
I have been coming to Jakarta for years. Plenty of Travel Hotel, Big Country when it was around, CJs, etc. , but never have been to Blok M.

Is it any good these days? What are the costs, best bars? Does anyone have any good recent advice?

The archives talk a bit about what guys did and success in a particular bar, but could some.

One provide a current assessment of where to go, or even if to go.

Any other Travel Hotel options out there in other parts of this sprawl? I will be coming here a lot in the next few months and would be grateful for one-the-ground opinions.

Thanks.

Cooze Hound
01-22-15, 08:27
I have been coming to Jakarta for years. Plenty of Travel Hotel, Big Country when it was around, CJs, etc. , but never have been to Blok M.

Is it any good these days? What are the costs, best bars? Does anyone have any good recent advice?

The archives talk a bit about what guys did and success in a particular bar, but could some.

One provide a current assessment of where to go, or even if to go.

Any other Travel Hotel options out there in other parts of this sprawl? I will be coming here a lot in the next few months and would be grateful for one-the-ground opinions.

Thanks.Hi.

Aside from the obvious RTFF, as far as Blok M goes, it is losing its shine, slowly but surely, in the humble opinion of one whom has lived a couple of kilometers away for 11 years and still visits regularly.

3 main options bar wise. And remember the expression "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", alcohol intake by the punters helps a lot of Blok M girls get a gig.

D-s Place -- As of late has been discussed here a lot. If you want to shoot your load, go no further. Head into the VIP room and someone will sort you out, or hang around the Dancers and do a deal with one of them to either go into the VIP room or meet you someplace else. For freelancers, the's is not you best choice as most are a bit past their use by date. The's starts a bit earlier than the other bars.

TopGun -- Hit and miss but by and large you can find someone to your taste. TG has a reasonable atmosphere as they always have a live band.

MyBar -- Only really comes alive from about 1. 30 am onwards and of course is busier later in the week and weekends. A serious pick up joint, IMHO Saturday night is best as its the end of e working week for many freelance girls whom actually have jobs and still will go there. But there is a lot of crap that goes with Mybar also, aggressive local guys, drugs, occasional violence. Don't want to put anyone off but if its busy and you are lurching around bumping into people, keep your wits about you.

Blok M is still worth a visit especially if you like a bit of a hunt, but if you are well cashed up and just want minimum fuss, just do Bats or CJ's or Malioboro for example.

Thats my 5 cents worth on Blok M.

Member #4410
01-23-15, 20:09
Looking forward to it!Of course Eddie was sorely missed. Who knows what stories he could have told.

OsakaGin11
01-25-15, 07:34
For my first ever visit to Jakarta in mid February I am looking at staying two nights at Favehotel Pasar Baru which I believe is in central Jakarta and while I have RTFF, I am still struggling getting a handle on Jakarta geographically and where is the best area / hotel to stay in.

1. Is the hotel gal friendly?

2. What are the closet clubs or bars that would be worth a visit in the nearby area?

3. How far in taxi time in the evening would it be areas such as CJ's or Bats, Blok M or clubs such Malioboro?

4. Is there anyone on this forum who could recommend it as a hotel to stay?

Any information to any of my above queries would be gratefully accepted.

Thanks in advance.

Smoothy
01-25-15, 10:44
Fave is in north Jakarta basically in the red light district. Nothing charming about that area, but you can walk to Hotel Classic from that Fave Hotel. It's far from Blok M, Bats or CJs, but close to Malioboro. If you are not so interested in bringing back free lancers from Blok M, and want to spend most of your time in brothels like Malio and Classic, it's great. It's cheap as hell, so if that's your price range, that's as good a choice as any.

Maclaine79
01-25-15, 12:08
Hi,

I have an option of stopping over in Jakarta or Manila on route to Tokyo, two places I haven't visited in SEA. I eliminated Macau as the options (saunas) seemed expensive assuming 3-4 sessions over 3 days. I have 3-4 days to explore options and really don't want to waste time.

1) From reading threads on both cities Jakarta seems to have more options. Bats, CJ, Maliboro, Alexis, Travel etc.

2) Novotel in North Jakarta seems ideally placed. Any other options in 4-5 stars around 100 $?

Jakarta seems similar to mongering options in BKK. Would appreciate inputs and any insights from members who have explored both destinations.

Cheers

LA Guy 5
01-25-15, 12:24
For my first ever visit to Jakarta in mid February I am looking at staying two nights at Favehotel Pasar Baru which I believe is in central Jakarta and while I have RTFF, I am still struggling getting a handle on Jakarta geographically and where is the best area / hotel to stay in.

1. Is the hotel gal friendly?

2. What are the closet clubs or bars that would be worth a visit in the nearby area?

3. How far in taxi time in the evening would it be areas such as CJ's or Bats, Blok M or clubs such Malioboro?

4. Is there anyone on this forum who could recommend it as a hotel to stay?

Any information to any of my above queries would be gratefully accepted.

Thanks in advance.I generally agree with what Smoothy said although probably would say it is close to, not in, the various red light districts in North Jakarta. It is near Classic, fairly convenient to Malioboro, Travel, the places near Lokasari Plaza, as well as the Penjay establishments, but quite a distance from Block M, which may not be as important late at night when the traffic is light (maybe 20 to 30 minutes then), but could be a problem at other times. I'm guessing CJ's would take just a little less time than getting to Blok M although I haven't visited it so don't know exactly. BATS would be a little closer but still not so close.

Myself I would spend a bit more and stay at one of the two Mercure's, the one in Kota being the less expensive. They are both in or at least near North Jakarta (the Kota one being perhaps 1/2 to 1 mile further north than the Mercure Harmoni), and pretty much at the geographical center of the various places you might visit in North Jakarta. Also, while still a distance from Blok M, they are both on the main road that is a straight shoot to Blok M. So, if you are really looking to save some money, the Fave, which I have never stayed at but have walked by, would be acceptable, but if saving money is not the primary concern, you might want to consider one of the two Mercure's that I have mentioned both because they are likely more comfortable, and also because they are IMHO at better locations. I am sure though others may have other suggestions.

I don't know about gal friendliness, but generally the P4P places in North Jakarta are on-site places, whereas CJs, BATS and most of the Blok M places are take out. So although it would be best to stay at a gal friendly hotel, which most in Jakarta are, if you spend most of your time in North Jakarta it may not matter so much.

Sean EZ
01-25-15, 13:05
I stayed in Millenium hotel which is considered central, it's slightly north of Plaza Indonesia, so it's equidistant to North and Senayan (Blok M / CJ's). Very nice hotel, no problem brining girls, less than 50 dollars per night. Harris in Plaza FX in Senayan also girl friendly, got a room on top floor 47 or 57 can't remember, great views. I never checked with these hotels if they were girlfriendly head of my arrival and I never had any problems; I assume all hotels are that way.

OsakaGin11
01-25-15, 16:07
Fave is in north Jakarta basically in the red light district. Nothing charming about that area, but you can walk to Hotel Classic from that Fave Hotel. It's far from Blok M, Bats or CJs, but close to Malioboro. If you are not so interested in bringing back free lancers from Blok M, and want to spend most of your time in brothels like Malio and Classic, it's great. It's cheap as hell, so if that's your price range, that's as good a choice as any.Thanks very much to Messers Smoothy, LA Guy and Sean EZ for your very helpful advice and information. I can assure you its very much appreciated.

UsPete
01-25-15, 17:00
Thanks very much to Messers Smoothy, LA Guy and Sean EZ for your very helpful advice and information. I can assure you its very much appreciated.I stayed overnight at the Fave, Pasar Baru but ONLY because I had a very early train to catch from Gambir Station. I seem to remember that the breakfast was served in the garage basement (could have been another Fave). I don't think the staff could speak much English, so you may face an issue as a first timer.

I would follow Smoothy/LA Guy's advice and look for something similar on a major thoroughfare. From the Fave you'll end up spending more money on taksis and motorbike taksi than you would if you'd chosen somewhere more strategic for 100 k more. If you are going to be walking about or sightseeing why not look at one of the 15 or so hotels on Jl. Wahid Hasyim in Menteng they provide a much better location if you are doing daytime mongering dates, BAts/CJs and English is more commonly used in these hotels

Hilo77
01-26-15, 02:46
I stayed in Millenium hotel which is considered central, it's slightly north of Plaza Indonesia, so it's equidistant to North and Senayan (Blok M / CJ's). Very nice hotel, no problem brining girls, less than 50 dollars per night. That's an excellent suggestion that I had never thought about and I am pleasantly surprised at the price. A respectable business hotel located in a strategic location (with an excellent Japanese restaurant too if I'm not mistaken) and a very reasonable price.

Ticks all the boxes, that just might assist me in making arrangements in the very near future given that I hope to be meeting a very respectable business lady in Sudirman for an afternoon appointment and Blok M cheap and easies wouldn't quite be her style and I don't fancy the long hike out to Kemang or pay through the nose for a room in the Shangri-La or the like for a room I will only be using for a few hours.

Thanks.

Smoothy
01-26-15, 12:59
The Millennium in Jakarta is the worst Millennium I've seen anywhere in the world. That is normally a 5 star hotel in any other country. I was just at the one in Bangkok last week and there is no comparison between the two. That being said, it's way nicer than the Fave Hotel at only a little over double the price.

Hilo77
01-27-15, 03:07
The Millennium in Jakarta is the worst Millennium I've seen anywhere in the world. That is normally a 5 star hotel in any other country. I was just at the one in Bangkok last week and there is no comparison between the two. That being said, it's way nicer than the Fave Hotel at only a little over double the price.It's certainly not in the top echelon of star-rated Jakarta hotels and is often overlooked (by myself included) but I think that's its big bonus point, who the hell is going to see you there? And with its location and reasonable price (actually around USD65 according to Agoda) it's certainly one worth bearing in mind when one is pursuing freebies from office and business ladies working in the CBD who aren't my usual low-hanging Blok M fruit.

Tommy Suharto
01-27-15, 04:28
It's certainly not in the top echelon of star-rated Jakarta hotels and is often overlooked (by myself included) but I think that's its big bonus point, who the hell is going to see you there? And with its location and reasonable price (actually around USD65 according to Agoda) it's certainly one worth bearing in mind when one is pursuing freebies from office and business ladies working in the CBD who aren't my usual low-hanging Blok M fruit.Yes, the Millenium is definitely good value for money. I have stayed there before.

If being seen is an issue, and this is my favorite hotel in central Jakarta. Try the Akmani. It is in short walking distance of Sarinah and the best thing is, you can access the hotel at street level via the car park. That is a normal thing to do there, entering via the carpark, as it has a huge staircase to the lobby to climb. Most girls in Jakarta know Sarinah, very easy meeting up there at one of the coffee shops. I have done that many times, mostly online dating.

Master Diver II
01-27-15, 12:40
I stayed in Millenium hotel which is considered central, it's slightly north of Plaza Indonesia, so it's equidistant to North and Senayan (Blok M / CJ's). Very nice hotel, no problem brining girls, less than 50 dollars per night. Harris in Plaza FX in Senayan also girl friendly, got a room on top floor 47 or 57 can't remember, great views. I never checked with these hotels if they were girlfriendly head of my arrival and I never had any problems; I assume all hotels are that way.Most hotels are girl friendly and don't have any issues; that being said, there are Syariah based hotels around town (Sofyan chain being one of them). Don't assume if you don't know. If you stick to Western sounding names, you're probably safe though. I agree with Tommy regarding Akmani. It's easy enough to walk in through the car park and take the lift straight up to the room and avoid the lobby. I've done this often enough the several times I've stayed there.

MD II.

Psychman
01-27-15, 17:55
First, thank for all your feedback to my first question. Boots up in two weeks, and will be in town for ten days. Starting at the Mercure Kota for six nights, and then may stay at the Mellenium or somewhere else central. I will wait to book.

Now packing, and a silly question I cannot find. In the PI and LOS, you find laundry places everywhere that are cheap and fast. Is it the same in Jakarta (and then in Bandung? That will affect my packing a bit. I am a bit of a committed workout nut, and like to change clothes a good deal after getting sweaty in the heat anyhow, so want to get a sense of how much I will need to pack.

Oh, and if you know a book place near the Mercure Kota, let me know. If anyone is in town from the 12th of Feb to about the 21st, and would like to share a meal or mongering experience, or hit a "normal" club, I am all for it.

LA Guy 5
01-27-15, 21:31
First, thank for all your feedback to my first question. Boots up in two weeks, and will be in town for ten days. Starting at the Mercure Kota for six nights, and then may stay at the Mellenium or somewhere else central. I will wait to book.

Now packing, and a silly question I cannot find. In the PI and LOS, you find laundry places everywhere that are cheap and fast. Is it the same in Jakarta (and then in Bandung? That will affect my packing a bit. I am a bit of a committed workout nut, and like to change clothes a good deal after getting sweaty in the heat anyhow, so want to get a sense of how much I will need to pack.

Oh, and if you know a book place near the Mercure Kota, let me know. If anyone is in town from the 12th of Feb to about the 21st, and would like to share a meal or mongering experience, or hit a "normal" club, I am all for it.The laundry situation in Jakarta is more difficult generally than in Bangkok, for example. Although you may run into a laundry--and they are not as easy to find as in Bangkok--many will not speak any English and will not be used to dealing with foreigners. This makes knowing when the laundry would be ready, etc. , virtually impossible. At some of the malls, for example Plaza Indonesia, there will be dry cleaners, but they generally do not turn things around overnight, and they are not much cheaper, if cheaper at all, than a dry cleaner in the States, particularly because they will dry clean everything, including socks. When I stayed in North Jakarta, one of the hotel lounge staff would bring my laundry to some place off-site, but that was only after I had become a regular and he would therefore do that favor for me.

So, for Jakarta I ended up buying a lot of ex officio clothing, since they are designed to dry quickly after being washed in a sink or bathtub. And when I need to use "regular clothing," I resort to dry cleaners. But if someone here has better options, I'd love to hear them.

Member #4410
01-27-15, 22:20
The laundry situation in Jakarta is more difficult generally than in Bangkok, for example. Although you may run into a laundry--and they are not as easy to find as in Bangkok--many will not speak any English and will not be used to dealing with foreigners. This makes knowing when the laundry would be ready, etc. , virtually impossible. At some of the malls, for example Plaza Indonesia, there will be dry cleaners, but they generally do not turn things around overnight, and they are not much cheaper, if cheaper at all, than a dry cleaner in the States, particularly because they will dry clean everything, including socks. When I stayed in North Jakarta, one of the hotel lounge staff would bring my laundry to some place off-site, but that was only after I had become a regular and he would therefore do that favor for me.

So, for Jakarta I ended up buying a lot of ex officio clothing, since they are designed to dry quickly after being washed in a sink or bathtub. And when I need to use "regular clothing," I resort to dry cleaners. But if someone here has better options, I'd love to hear them.I always use the hotel laundry service. Not too expensive and next day return of your clothing. Beats searching for a laundry service and your stuff gets returned to your room.

LA Guy 5
01-27-15, 22:35
I always use the hotel laundry service. Not too expensive and next day return of your clothing. Beats searching for a laundry service and your stuff gets returned to your room.That might well work at many of the four-star and less hotels, like the Mercure Kota, and since it looks like Psychman is going to stay there it may be the best option. At the five-stars, like the Grand Hyatt, the hotel laundry service is ridiculously expensive. From what you are saying, it would seem the more moderately priced hotels are also moderately priced on laundry service.

Member #4410
01-27-15, 22:40
That might well work at many of the four-star and less hotels, like the Mercure Kota, and since it looks like Psychman is going to stay there it may be the best option. At the five-stars, like the Grand Hyatt, the hotel laundry service is ridiculously expensive. From what you are saying, it would seem the more moderately priced hotels are also moderately priced on laundry service.My experience is in Atlet Century, Ibis Slipi, Ambhara, Harris FX and I'm forgetting a few. That's 3 - 4 star, so I guess you're right on that point. In my opinion it's not only laundry that's ridiculously expensive in 5-star hotels, so I don't stay there.

Psychman
01-27-15, 23:08
Thanks for the input about laundry. I sometimes also travel with old, throw away t shirts and other stuff (I. E. For work outs), so this seems to be a perfect time to get rid of such stuff.

Thanks!

Sean EZ
01-27-15, 23:11
Since this is not a hotel thread this will be my last post on this subject I entered Shangri La on my way to BATS and it looked tired. Same in India I paid 200 per night, on business trip 5 star hotel, and I would have preferred to have stayed in a modern BKK hotel for 70 a night. That's why I wouldn't stay at a 5 star in Jakarta. Milennium is perfectly fine, yes you don't get glass door shower and marble finish but the rooms are clean, the bed is big and pillows are comfortable, and staff are really nice (same as in Harris). Laundry is pain in the ass you have to itemize items on the form, but I didn't think it was expensive and I like my shirts ironed on hangers. AirBnb might be a good alternative but I like my room service.

Member #4410
01-28-15, 00:55
The laundry situation in Jakarta is more difficult generally than in Bangkok, for example. Although you may run into a laundry--and they are not as easy to find as in Bangkok--many will not speak any English and will not be used to dealing with foreigners. This makes knowing when the laundry would be ready, etc. , virtually impossible. <SNIP> I think this is a slightly strange post regarding communication.

Bahasa Indonesia ("Indonesian language") is not a very difficult language to master at a basic level. Advanced Indonesian is a completely different story, but can be ignored here. With a basic vocabulary of a few hundred words (and having a small dictionary at hand) you can come very far in Indonesia. People will forgive your appalling grammar, because they appreciate the simple fact that you try, and they will understand what you are trying to communicate faster than you think. When you are in another country I think it is a matter of courtesy to at least try to speak the local language and not expect everybody to be fluent in English. They are in their own country, after all.

Regards,

Ko.

LA Guy 5
01-28-15, 01:14
I think this is a slightly strange post regarding communication.

Bahasa Indonesia ("Indonesian language") is not a very difficult language to master at a basic level. Advanced Indonesian is a completely different story, but can be ignored here. With a basic vocabulary of a few hundred words (and having a small dictionary at hand) you can come very far in Indonesia. People will forgive your appalling grammar, because they appreciate the simple fact that you try, and they will understand what you are trying to communicate faster than you think. When you are in another country I think it is a matter of courtesy to at least try to speak the local language and not expect everybody to be fluent in English. They are in their own country, after all.

Regards,

Ko.Psychman said he was a Jakarta newbie and it seems he will be in Jakarta for only a few days. I suppose you think he should master Bahasa Indonesia to a basic level for his short trip and learn a few hundred words. I don't, and actually find your reaction to my post more than slightly strange. Sure, learn the very basic language courtesies, even for a short trip, but given how important it is to, for example, get one's laundry back before one leaves town, I don't think it is unreasonable at all, or "slightly strange" to suggest there may be communication problems at the laundries that might not make them a good option for a newbie visitor.

And, by the way, there was nothing in my post to suggest even remotely I thought a visitor to Indonesia should expect everyone to be fluent in English.

Omerta
02-02-15, 05:46
Hello folks,

After reading lot of threads here and advise from some senior friends I want to experience Jakarta. So leaving Jakarta this March. This will be my first mongering experience and have selected below places.

Karthika spa for Body to body massage.

Classic for Threesome.

Have read in some threads that girls in Karthika are not good, how is the situation now and what are the charges. Also among Maribaya and classic which is good it must be budget friendly too. I am concerned about STD / infections so would like to know if girls in these places are healthy or they are pros?

Hilo77
02-03-15, 02:42
Hello folks,


Have read in some threads that girls in Karthika are not good, how is the situation now and what are the charges. Also among Maribaya and classic which is good it must be budget friendly too. I am concerned about STD / infections so would like to know if girls in these places are healthy or they are pros?First time visit to Jakarta and he decides the thing that he wants most of all is, of all things, a massage in Kartika, but he's worried the girls might not be any good. I mean, WTF? The great smorgasboard of sex that is Jakarta and he opts for a massage in a grotty back street in West Jakarta even though he's heard the girls aren't actually any good, talk about setting your sights low.

But wait, it gets better, he would like to go to a brothel that doesn't have any pros in it. You know the sort of place that only provides fresh virgins up from the country with certified health checks catering especially for first time visitors, and all within a limited budget too.

God help us all, some people really shouldn't be let out on their own.

Mate, do yourself a favour and stay at home, there's plenty of porn on the internet to keep you satisfied, it's free and you won't catch any nasty diseases.

Mighty Spearsman
02-03-15, 05:35
First time visit to Jakarta and he decides the thing that he wants most of all is, of all things, a massage in Kartika, but he's worried the girls might not be any good. I mean, WTF? The great smorgasboard of sex that is Jakarta and he opts for a massage in a grotty back street in West Jakarta even though he's heard the girls aren't actually any good, talk about setting your sights low.

But wait, it gets better, he would like to go to a brothel that doesn't have any pros in it. You know the sort of place that only provides fresh virgins up from the country with certified health checks catering especially for first time visitors, and all within a limited budget too.

God help us all, some people really shouldn't be let out on their own.

Mate, do yourself a favour and stay at home, there's plenty of porn on the internet to keep you satisfied, it's free and you won't catch any nasty diseases.Hilo, with all due respect, I feel that your report is unnecessarily nasty. The poster is a newbie who had actually taken the time to RTFF and read the board, and he zeroed in on two massage places that match what he's looking for, and instead of helping the newbie (or ignoring him), you make fun of him. Why?

For what it's worth, I'm a big fan of the Kartika Spa as they are the only reliable body-to-body nuru spa place in Jakarta. And most if not all ladies at Kartika will use a condom, and if you have a 2-girl session (highly recommended for under US $75 total tip included) the girls may change condoms when you change girls.

And maybe Classic is the type of place he's looking for as well. Some posters love barely-legal girls even if they are starfish. Not my choice, but each to his own.

Fast Eddie 48
02-03-15, 22:30
Hello folks,

After reading lot of threads here and advise from some senior friends I want to experience Jakarta. So leaving Jakarta this March. This will be my first mongering experience and have selected below places.

Karthika spa for Body to body massage.

Classic for Threesome.

Have read in some threads that girls in Karthika are not good, how is the situation now and what are the charges. Also among Maribaya and classic which is good it must be budget friendly too. I am concerned about STD / infections so would like to know if girls in these places are healthy or they are pros?To Omerta.

That is all depend what are you looking for if you want good service from older and average girl then go to Kartika or Maribaya, if you want good looking younger girl go to Classic and hotel travel it is hit and miss here on service, I was in Kartika a few month ago girl are average at best this place is going down hill fast I have not pick a girl here in 2 year.

Fast eddie 48.

Hilo77
02-04-15, 03:26
Hilo, with all due respect, I feel that your report is unnecessarily nasty. The poster is a newbie who had actually taken the time to RTFF and read the board, and he zeroed in on two massage places that match what he's looking for, and instead of helping the newbie (or ignoring him), you make fun of him. Why?

He's looking for a brothel that doesn't have pros and he doesn't want to be charged too much for the privilege.

And you have to ask why I mock him?

You and others seem very concerned to assist this dufus, hey knock yourselves out, I've wasted enough time and keyboard tapping on him.

I simply await with bated breath his full field report which should be comic gold and would be fair reward for your efforts at helping him.

However, I suspect field report will come there none.

Smoothy
02-04-15, 14:20
He's looking for a brothel that doesn't have pros and he doesn't want to be charged too much for the privilege.I am looking for a brothel that has all gorgeous 18 year old virgins and they pay me to allow them to service me. After much research, I am hoping to find that at Kartika. I'll try tomorrow and let you know the results.

Smoothy
02-06-15, 04:53
Well, I went to Kartika. As far as I could tell, none of the girls were even close to 18 years old, much closer to 30. The best I saw was a girl I'd rate at about a 5 on a scale of 1 to 10 (then again, that's always subjective, isn't it?) I may be mistaken, but all of them seemed to be hard core hookers who had been on the game a good while, not virgins. They were very aggressive as soon as I walked in the door. I had to push through them to get to the bar and order a drink. I then took my time and tried to find my gem. I asked if there were any 18 year old virgins there and the girls and staff laughed. I've found though that Indonesians love to laugh, so that could mean either yes or no. I decided to wait a while to see if any top honeys would come down after a session. (not a sex session of course, because I am looking for virgin, non pros) I am not saying there weren't any, because I may have just been unlucky with the timing of my visit. However, I didn't find any there who met my criteria, so I headed elsewhere.

Bottom line: On this occasion, my attempt at finding gorgeous 18 year old virgins who would pay me for the privilege of servicing me was a rousing failure.

But I would still recommend that every guy tries a soapy sandwich there at least once. The girls may not be gorgeous and they may be far from virgins, but that 2 girl sandwich there is a unique experience.

Param Ahmad
02-07-15, 07:43
I appreciate your reports, gentlemen, especially that of Sean EZ (#9265, below). Perhaps if I read far enough back in this thread I'll be able to find address of some of the places named.

Thanks also to those who have posted photographs of Indonesian women in this thread. I'm wondering if those of you who have been there think the photographs in the last few pages of this thread are typical of women I'd find in Jakarta if I make a trip there.

Smoothy
02-07-15, 11:44
Same in India I paid 200 per night, on business trip 5 star hotel, and I would have preferred to have stayed in a modern BKK hotel for 70 a night. That's why I wouldn't stay at a 5 star in Jakarta.I recently stayed at the JW Marriott in Jakarta for $130 a night, then at the JW Marriott in Bangkok for $170 a night. I preferred the one in Jakarta. You think there is a $70 a night hotel in Bangkok that is nicer than the Shangri-La in Jakarta? Not likely.

Param Ahmad
02-07-15, 19:02
I just spend two weekends in Jakarta. .... Overall not very impressed with quality. Malls .... As far as girls, you are not in LA or Miami, you will walk a mile before seeing a hot girl. That's my opinion of course. Normal clubs .... Your best bet to start the night is Potato Head lounge .... These are highest end places, but I can't say that these high end girls are much better quality than elsewhere.Do others share this gentleman's unflattering view of the attractiveness of women in Jakarta?

LA Guy 5
02-08-15, 00:54
I recently stayed at the JW Marriott in Jakarta for $130 a night, then at the JW Marriott in Bangkok for $170 a night. I preferred the one in Jakarta. You think there is a $70 a night hotel in Bangkok that is nicer than the Shangri-La in Jakarta? Not likely.That was an unusually low price for the JW Marriott in Jakarta. I have stayed there, paid closer to $200 a night, and did not particularly care for it; it is barely a five-star property, if that IMHO. In my experience, the five-star hotels in Jakarta are overpriced (often in the $250 to $350 a night range) and many of them have seen better days. In contrast, the five-stars in Bangkok can be real deals, and it is not unusual to pay between $100 and $140 a night at some of the good ones (but not all of them).

I suspect the difference between the two cities in this regard reflects that Jakarta attracts a lot of foreign business people on business and does not have an overabundance of quality hotels; in contrast, Bangkok seems to attract primarily tourists (without expense accounts paying for their trips) and conferences (with participants often on limited expense accounts) and is saturated, maybe even over-saturated, with fine hotels competing for the tourist dollar (or Euro).

Member #4410
02-08-15, 02:18
Do others share this gentleman's unflattering view of the attractiveness of women in Jakarta?No, I don't.

Member #4698
02-08-15, 03:09
Do others share this gentleman's unflattering view of the attractiveness of women in Jakarta?No. I rank Jakarta girls very high. I find them to be very attractive and on average as good looking as Thai girls and better looking than Filipinas. In bed I found them to be very passionate and almost as GFE as Filipinas. I just wish I spoke their lingo.

Smoothy
02-08-15, 03:56
That was an unusually low price for the JW Marriott in Jakarta. I have stayed there, paid closer to $200 a night, and did not particularly care for it; it is barely a five-star property, if that IMHO. In my experience, the five-star hotels in Jakarta are overpriced (often in the $250 to $350 a night range) and many of them have seen better days. In contrast, the five-stars in Bangkok can be real deals, and it is not unusual to pay between $100 and $140 a night at some of the good ones (but not all of them).

I suspect the difference between the two cities in this regard reflects that Jakarta attracts a lot of foreign business people on business and does not have an overabundance of quality hotels; in contrast, Bangkok seems to attract primarily tourists (without expense accounts paying for their trips) and conferences (with participants often on limited expense accounts) and is saturated, maybe even over-saturated, with fine hotels competing for the tourist dollar (or Euro).I just did an agoda search on JW Marriott in Jakarta and in Bangkok for this weekend. In Jakarta, it's 150 a night, in Bangkok it's 190 a night. The Kempinski in Jakarta is also listed at 150 a night that night and it absolutely blows away the JW Marriott in Bangkok. I don't find the 5 star hotels in Bangkok to be all that cheap. I think the main hotels that are overpriced in Jakarta are the Mulia, Shangri-La, Dharmawangsa, Grand Hyatt, and Mandarin. There are a lot of good deals in Jakarta on 5 star hotels.

Here are some prices of 5 star hotels in Jakarta that night.

Sahid Jaya - $54.

Aryaduta - $68.

Gran Melia - $116.

Kempinski - $150.

Manhattan - $73.

Borobadur - $81.

Oakwood - $133.

Intercontinental - $134.

JW Marriott - $150.

Park Lane - $90.

Some of those on the list like the Aryaduta have seen better days, but they are still a great deal at those prices.

Smoothy
02-08-15, 04:02
As far as girls, you are not in LA or Miami, you will walk a mile before seeing a hot girl. That's my opinion of course.At least you aren't in India where you could walk a thousand miles without seeing a hot girl (unless you turn on the TV and watch a Hindi movie).

I have always said that you don't find 10's in Jakarta. If you want 10's, go to Venezuela. But the abundance of cute, shaggable girls in Indonesia is remarkable.

LA Guy 5
02-08-15, 05:08
I just did an agoda search on JW Marriott in Jakarta and in Bangkok for this weekend. In Jakarta, it's 150 a night, in Bangkok it's 190 a night. The Kempinski in Jakarta is also listed at 150 a night that night and it absolutely blows away the JW Marriott in Bangkok. I don't find the 5 star hotels in Bangkok to be all that cheap. I think the main hotels that are overpriced in Jakarta are the Mulia, Shangri-La, Dharmawangsa, Grand Hyatt, and Mandarin. There are a lot of good deals in Jakarta on 5 star hotels.

Here are some prices of 5 star hotels in Jakarta that night.

Sahid Jaya - $54.

Aryaduta - $68.

Gran Melia - $116.

Kempinski - $150.

Manhattan - $73.

Borobadur - $81.

Oakwood - $133.

Intercontinental - $134

JW Marriott - $150

Park Lane - $90.

Some of those on the list like the Aryaduta have seen better days, but they are still a great deal at those prices.Because the better Jakarta hotels cater to people in town on business (as noted earlier), they discount their rates, often substantially, on weekends when the business crowd leaves town, so one would expect the weekend rates you cite to be quite reasonable. But if one is talking about true five-star hotels (as opposed to hotels that guests might give high ratings when taking into account bang for the buck) many on your list do not qualify in my book, nor in some of the travel websites. The true five-star hotels in Jakarta include IMHO those you list initially (as being overpriced) --Mulia, Shangri-La, Dharmawangsa, Grand Hyatt, and Mandarin--as well as Keraton at the Plaza, the Fairmont, the Four Seasons, Raffles, the two Ritz Carltons, the Kempinski and maybe the Hermitage. If one wants to know what five-star hotels cost in Jakarta, their weeknight prices would be an indication.

I just checked the price for a room this Monday night for some of the hotels on your list: the Kempinski is $267 this Monday night in contrast to the $150 rate you saw for this weekend. And the Gran Melia was $145 for this Monday night, the JW Marriott $198, and the Intercontinental $229, all from the same website you consulted and substantially more expensive than their weekend rates. The true five-star hotels will usually be more than these rates, with the exception of the Kempinski's.

Having stayed at three of the hotels on the five-star list I just gave, all three were better significantly than the JW Marriott in Jakarta, and much much better than the Intercontinental, which I had a terrible stay at. On the other hand I'm not a great fan of the JW Marriott in Bangkok although it is convenient to Nana, which I suspect is one of the reasons they can charge what they do. But I have noticed the hotel prices at the better hotels in Bangkok seem to have gotten higher in the last six months, at least among those I favor and/or follow their pricing, so the days of paying in Bangkok around half of what I pay in Jakarta for a true five-star hotel room might be coming to a close although this remains to be seen.

Mighty Spearsman
02-08-15, 06:02
Do others share this gentleman's unflattering view of the attractiveness of women in Jakarta?


No. I rank Jakarta girls very high. I find them to be very attractive and on average as good looking as Thai girls and better looking than Filipinas. In bed I found them to be very passionate and almost as GFE as Filipinas. I just wish I spoke their lingo.


At least you aren't in India where you could walk a thousand miles without seeing a hot girl (unless you turn on the TV and watch a Hindi movie).
I have always said that you don't find 10's in Jakarta. If you want 10's, go to Venezuela. But the abundance of cute, shaggable girls in Indonesia is remarkable.Param, IMHO SeanEZ is in a distinct minority in his negative views of Jakarta women, and the majority of posters here would agree with Smoothy's and Natty Bumpo's comments. I myself love Jakarta women and look forward to my next visit there!

Hilo77
02-08-15, 12:19
Do others share this gentleman's unflattering view of the attractiveness of women in Jakarta?No. It was quite the most absurd statement I have read on this forum. Some of the most beautiful and sweetest-natured women on planet Earth are to be found in this steaming, stinking messed-up metropolis.

Jakarta is a dreadful city in every respect except one, and that is the sheer abundance and quality of lovely,sexy, friendly and fun women.

And for that one reason I wouldn't live anywhere else.

Hilo77
02-08-15, 12:31
I have always said that you don't find 10's in Jakarta. If you want 10's, go to Venezuela. But the abundance of cute, shaggable girls in Indonesia is remarkable.Spot on.

The only "10's" I have dated in SE Asia (and these things are of course relative) were in Thailand, absolute stunners but they stood out a mile from the regular Thai girl who is somewhat run-of-the-mill.

In Jakarta on the other hand you might not meet a stunner at all, unless you hang out with the "sinetron" crowd, but just walking down any street you will see dozens of girls who are "7's" and who are dressed simply in jeans and t-shirts, with terrific figures and sweet faces who are extremely approachable and easy-going.

World Jockey
02-08-15, 18:42
Do others share this gentleman's unflattering view of the attractiveness of women in Jakarta?Nope.

I found many attractive women. I guess this could be chalked up to the very subjective nature of "attractive".

World Jockey
02-08-15, 21:31
I'm writing this with the experiences of two as my wingman isn't a member. I also did a separate report on Bali in that forum. Check my past posts if you want to read it.

Arrival: Fist I want to say thanks again to the forum members who helped me with the airport logistics.

I got in around 12:30 am. VOA and immigration and claiming my bags was a breeze. Since I got in late I was unable to rendezvous with my wingman. Having RTFF I told him when he landed to catch a blue bird. However he didn't listen and caught a ride with some fella. He then arranged for this fella to go to the airport to pick me up. I exit the airport and there the dude was holding up my name. Total damage from the airport to blok M was around $30 USD. Yeah I could have just walked on by the guy but I didn't realize he wasn't metered until after I got in the taxi. Also he recognized me right away since I look unique. I guess I just didn't want to be rude.

Accommodations: Ironic how I'm writing my report as you all are having a 5 star hotel debate. Well we really don't care to much for fancy hotels. Give me clean, WiFi, a safe, working bathroom, comfy bed and I'm fine. We initially stayed at the Fave. Now I think I must mention a funny situation that occurred. I booked about two nights on Agoda and got a great deal. Upon arriving at the hotel they said I had to pay for my room. When I told them I already paid on Agoda. They said Agoda told them they cancelled the reservation due to fraud and my card was never charged. I say fine and go to pay the same amount I paid on Agoda. They replied that the rooms they have are more expensive now. I show him the email with the price I got the room for. Now I don't know how true this is but the clerk says he thinks Agoda fucked up and gave be a rate that was too cheap. Instead of eating the cost they simply sad "fraud" and cancelled my reservation. Far too many scenarios to try to figure out exactly what happened but I just wanted to share that. Luckily they had rooms available and the price difference wasn't too great. However I would hate for someone to really get burned this way do always double check before your trip.

Eventually we left blok M and stayed at the POP! Hotel in Kemang. I liked this place. The hotel was at most a year or two old. The decor is minimal, modern, very bright and full of vibrant colors.

Girls girls liked this place. The only thing I didn't like was the fact that the rooms didn't have phones. Yeah I could simply call my m8 on his cell phone but I usually throw my cell phone in the safe when I have overnight company so having the room phone comes in handy.

Ambiance:

Kemang Blok M.

-Traffic. Holy fucking shit this city has a lot traffic. The only time I saw it let up was late and night.Compared to other capitals I have been in you really have plan around the traffic if you need to be somewhere at a certain time. Wingman and I both got hit with hefty meter bill and being when meeting up for our respective dates. Oh and pray your taximan does not take a wrong turn. I think they need some better city planing or something.

-Malls are all over the place and they are huge. I wonder who is doing all of this shopping? MAny of the locals I met complain about the malls vs green space. They also complain about them continuing to build. I guess its a shoppers paradise. I will say I did do a fair amount of shopping in the so I won't poo poo all over the malls.

-Scenery was typical of any major city. Not nothing to write home about.

-The people. In general they were cool. They were helpful when I asked a question & I had no issues with anyone. Of course I got stares because I'm a bule with dark skin but its to be expected.

Being a majority Muslim country I wasn't sure what I would find. From what I could see they are more relaxed than their cousins in the middle east. I guess that general SE Asian culture permeates and leaves its stamp.

Girls: This is the part you all have been waiting for. To let you all know we tend to pick up Flers. We try to avoid massage parlors, mamasans, papasans. Hats off to you fellas who like that. Its just not our thing. The very first night we went to grab some food around Blok M. We met two girls hanging out. One was 23 and on the slim side; which is right down my alley. Her friend was less attractive to me so I kinda ignored her. Another girl showed up not too long after who was a 10. My friend told me the night before (he arrived before me) he chatted with her and she would budge from 1 million. So this night he was armed with me and decided to use bargaining power and peer pressure. I had literally just gotten off a 22 hour flight 2 hours before and wanted to rest but decide. Alas I'm already here and out of the hotel, in for a penny in for a pound. My friend tells skinny girl I will take her for 500 K if she can get MS. Juta to go with him for 700 K. Well his plan worked. They agreed and off we went to get our Indonesia cherries popped. Post game wrap up we both enjoyed our sessions.

Over the next few days I met up with girls I met dating sites from beforehand. I had one success. I wouldn't call the other failures Its just that I needed more time. I still got way more action after a month being on the site in Indonesia than a whole year back home. Wingman didn't bother to lay (pun intended) any internet groundwork. However he (58) did manage to me a 27 year old Indo Chinese girl on a plane from Bali and set up a date a couple days later. Something that wouldn't happen in his wildest dreams in the states.

The rest of our mongering time was spent checking out a few clubs. We visited Nu China and a few other clubs on that street. Mostly a younger crowd in their 20's which is typical of any night club. Me being 39 and him being 58 I think we were aged out. Plenty of hot young girls there but it would take a little work. We went to BATS one night just to take a look. Plenty 10's but given the economic conditions; the starting price for company should be no where near what a girl back home are asking. The place itself seemed a tad pretentious so I guess they were just fitting in.

The area we ended up getting girls from was the "low end" Blok M. Most nights we got girls from there. Damage was between 300 k and 500 K. Of course beers and shit added to that. Did Top Gun a few times but found the music and smoke to be too obnoxious. It was too difficult to speak in there and constantly having to wash smoke out of clothes was a drag (pun intended yet again). The girls were fine however. One was actually quite exceptional. After a session with one I woke up to her placing my penis squarely in her back door. I had never had a girl working or not shove me in her backdoor without me asking for it. That was a pleasant experience. My bar seemed to get jumping around 2 pm. I met quite a few nice girls there and the music / smoke was less abrasive.

The times we didn't do the club thing we headed up north to classics. Sometimes its good to not have to hunt and be guaranteed a nice pretty young thing. Man this place is efficient. As soon as we walk in the mamasans are on your case with the little laser light pointing to girls. We ended up deciding when we went we would walk around in the middle to evade the mamasan drones. The plan worked for about 10 whole minutes. Once my buddy was captured and mated. I ran to the only mamasan free zone, the restroom. When I came out he was gone so I figure him and his female mate were tagged and caged for breeding.

While it can be annoying that they are that aggressive and they give you little opportunity to choose a girl it can be a bit refreshing. To be honest besides me saying no to a few girls because they were too chunky I had a good experience with each. And 350 K for a 7-10 hell even if I have a bad experience its so cheap I can get another without blinking. The last girl I was with was the only one to ask for ciggs and a soda. After I bought them she the asked for a tip. I just pointed to the ciggs and soda. I gave her a tip anyway. Another minor issue that isn't really their fault was that cell signal sucked in the rooms. This is only a problem because there went my google translate with it. None of the girls I was with spoke any English. It was pointing, eye contacts and Tarzan bahasa the whole time.

The only other place (I forget the name) we went to was a little local club we bumped into in north Jakarta. All the girls working there were in rep tops and wanted us to get drinks. Upon observation it seemed like the girls were just there to dance with guys and get them to buy drinks. I don't think they were there four out calls or in house action. After noticing this we paut our 200 K for two bintang and left.

Wrap up: OK my buddy and I came away with different opinions of Jakarta. He didn't enjoy himself much. He thought it was too difficult to find girls compared to Thailand and the city had too much sprawl. He thought the girls wee decent looking but not much different from Thailand either. I guess he thinks he would get a better bang for his buck there.

As for me I had a decent time. I think its kinda wrong to compare it to the most popular monger destination in SE Asia and think it would come close. I think it would be better to compare it to other capitals. When we do this I think it would have the same batting average. I also think when picking up regular girls time is definitely a factor. One can't really expect a regular girl to fuck you on the 1st date. Besides a working girl who does? Unless of course you spent a while talking to her online before. Just like other SE Asian countries there are plenty of good looking women open to screwing ya but the proper time must be invested. All in all I think plenty of fun can be had in Jakarta. I would rate my experience a 8 out of 10.

Sorry for typos, grammar and shit.

Smoothy
02-09-15, 02:36
Eventually we left blok M and stayed at the POP! Hotel in Kemang. I liked this place. The hotel was at most a year or two old. The decor is minimal, modern, very bright and full of vibrant colors.

Girls girls liked this place.I use that hotel as my late night (early morning) shagging spot when I don't want to bring the girl to my apartment. I can't imagine spending more than a couple of hours in those tiny rooms though. The girls who will like that place are Blok M girls because they live quite close to that hotel. If you aren't going to spend much time in your hotel, and want to pretty much stick to girls in Blok M, that one is a good choice. A BATS girl will not be thrilled by that hotel. Then again, you are paying for her services, so who is she to complain?

Smoothy
02-09-15, 03:20
Another girl showed up not too long after who was a 10.

We went to BATS one night just to take a look. Plenty 10's Wow, 10's? Do you have any pictures of these 10's?

World Jockey
02-09-15, 05:24
I use that hotel as my late night (early morning) shagging spot when I don't want to bring the girl to my apartment. I can't imagine spending more than a couple of hours in those tiny rooms though. The girls who will like that place are Blok M girls because they live quite close to that hotel. If you aren't going to spend much time in your hotel, and want to pretty much stick to girls in Blok M, that one is a good choice. A BATS girl will not be thrilled by that hotel. Then again, you are paying for her services, so who is she to complain?I'm sure the novelty would rub off after a week or so but it definitely eye popping when first walking in unlike other hotels in the same star range.

As for pics number I spend all of 15 min in BATS and didn't pick up and girls from there. As for the 10 my buddy picked up off the street. I dunno if he got a pic of her.

Member #4410
02-09-15, 14:40
I believe now is not the ideal time to be in North Jakarta. I just received pictures from WhatsNewJakarta.com and they show amongst others streets filled with water South of Monas, Kelapa Gading streets submerged, an unfortunate bloke with only the handlebars of his motorbike above water, etc.

No matter how much I miss Jakarta, this part of Jakarta life I can do without. As for Kelapa Gading: things will get worse the coming years before they improve again.

Regards,

Ko.

Smoothy
02-09-15, 19:40
As for the 10 my buddy picked up off the street. I dunno if he got a pic of her.No worries. I just think you may be throwing the 10 rating around a little frivolously. In all my years in Jakarta, I've never seen a 10. Let alone, a 10 in the street of Blok M.

UsPete
02-09-15, 20:00
I believe now is not the ideal time to be in North Jakarta. I just received pictures from WhatsNewJakarta.com and they show amongst others streets filled with water South of Monas, Kelapa Gading streets submerged, an unfortunate bloke with only the handlebars of his motorbike above water, etc.

No matter how much I miss Jakarta, this part of Jakarta life I can do without. As for Kelapa Gading: things will get worse the coming years before they improve again.

Regards,

Ko.Ko.

I'm unable to see the pics you're referring to about the banjir in your link.

But what did catch my eye is the Working Girls Breakfast.

http://whatsnewjakarta.com/content/detail/658/Working-Girls-Group-at-BritChams-Professional-Women-Breakfast

Is this the event where the girls talk about prices, tips for getting laid, who to avoid etc?

Hilo77
02-10-15, 04:10
One can't really expect a regular girl to fuck you on the 1st date. Besides a working girl who does? It's actually possible in Jakarta but only if you have a smattering of the language and a bit of chutzpah.

I remember twice pulling it off with girls on the Busway; time from first striking up conversation to climbing into bed, maximum 20 minutes. The first occasion I already had a room in the Melawai (classy joint) and I was going to Blok M on a Friday night. I just started chatting to a girl dressed in office wear, she was on the way home from work and was going to pick up a bus to Tanggerang or Depok or some such God's cursed place. I could tell she wasn't a working girl due to her dress and lack of make-up (the passion-killing granny bloomers she was wearing later confirmed that she had not originally intended to have sex with a strange man that night). That was fun and set me up in prime form for the rest of the evening.

The second was when I was asked by a pleasant young lady one afternoon if I needed a baby sitter as she had recently left her job and was looking for new employment, I took her number and told her I would ask my wife. As we pulled up at the Terminal we continued the conversation. I said I suspected that if she had no work she mustn't have any money, which she naturally confirmed (talk about shooting the proverbial fish), well I suggested that although I was pretty sure my wife didn't need any help, if she wanted some quick cash perhaps she could help me out. There was a faintly puzzled look on her face before she grasped what I was getting at, she hesitated and said maybe another time as she wasn't quite prepared, I assured her that I would take care of all the preparations there and then, she gave it some more thought and well, you can work out the rest. Having kept her number we made a few more rendezvous later before she got a regular job in Kemang.

Another time took just a little more effort but not much. I was in an internet cafe and saw a truly beautiful girl skype-ing, she was immaculately dressed and on a whim I wrote my contact details on a piece of paper, got up and paid and as I passed her desk dropped the paper on to it. Sure enough within a few hours we were sms-ing away like Billy Oh. She was studying architecture in Europe and was going back in a day or so, I suggested meeting the next day and when I brought the conversation around to the direction I wanted I almost blew it by suggesting monetary remuneration. She was quite offended so I dropped the topic straight away. Anyway next day I was at the gym in a hotel in South Jakarta (tip to other married men, gyms are great places to go to when you are pursuing this hobby, there is no suspicion when you come home after a few hours out all pink cheeked and freshly showered, just remember to make sure you drop your gym gear on the shower floor and stuff it in the bag though, as a freshly laundered set of clothes still folded in your bag will cause unnecessary trauma to domestic harmony). Anyway I got an sms from her, it turns out she was just across the street, I told her to meet me in the lobby in 20 minutes, while I changed and booked the room and bingo we were there. She was every bit as hot as I thought she would be and intelligent too, indeed one of my great regrets is that I never kept her details for when she came back from Europe.

So there you have it, an unemployed nanny, an office worker and a student from an upper-middle class family. I never struck like that in my days in Bangkok but I never had any proficiency in the Thai language so I couldn't expect to.

Just for the avoidance of any doubt the only similarities between me and George Clooney are our age and hair colour (and an apparent preference for sexy Muslim women, although in my case I ain't faking it).

Menteng
02-10-15, 06:12
No worries. I just think you may be throwing the 10 rating around a little frivolously. In all my years in Jakarta, I've never seen a 10. Let alone, a 10 in the street of Blok M.Not even one of the My Bar calender girls?

FreebieFan
02-10-15, 06:31
. I also think when picking up regular girls time is definitely a factor. One can't really expect a regular girl to fuck you on the 1st date. Unless of course you spent a while talking to her online before. Just like other SE Asian countries there are plenty of good looking women open to screwing ya but the proper time must be invested. All in all I think plenty of fun can be had in Jakarta.
.You are right that you it does require some investment but then there's nothing for nothing in this world.

I can remember Ade, a secretary who had big jugs on a very small frame. Would come to my hotel at lunch and dinner for some.

There was Luluk, another secretary who was just lovely from the first date, where we ended up half naked going down the hotel corridor, rushing to get to the room she's now happily married in northern Europe.

Uwoh, a very cute and adventurous student who I took travelling with me all over Asia.

Tanya, who had shown me her wares on cam before we met.

Setiah who was engaged but wanted some extra.

Wibitha from Buddha Bar.

And a few others whos names I've now forgotten.

All good happy fucks on a first date. It can be done. !

Param Ahmad
02-10-15, 07:50
Thank you to those who responded to my question about attractiveness of women in Jakarta. Is it difficult to find young women in Jakarta who speak English?

Member #4410
02-10-15, 18:15
Ko.

I'm unable to see the pics you're referring to about the banjir in your link.

But what did catch my eye is the Working Girls Breakfast.

http://whatsnewjakarta.com/content/detail/658/Working-Girls-Group-at-BritChams-Professional-Women-Breakfast

Is this the event where the girls talk about prices, tips for getting laid, who to avoid etc?Possible, but I doubt it.

Param Ahmad
02-10-15, 19:57
.... None of the girls I was with spoke any English. It was pointing, eye contacts and Tarzan bahasa the whole time. ....Have you other gentlemen in this forum who have been to Jakarta found this to be true? Need I learn a few phrases in the Indonesian language before boarding a flight to Jakarta?

Hilo77
02-11-15, 03:01
Have you other gentlemen in this forum who have been to Jakarta found this to be true? Need I learn a few phrases in the Indonesian language before boarding a flight to Jakarta?Param, with the greatest of respect, you are worrying too much.

There are plenty of hot women in Jakarta, some can speak English some don't have a word of English but it doesn't stop them getting what they want or you getting what you want. You've read the forum and focused on one or two slightly negative aspects or statements in the vast tsunami of blokes telling you how bloody fantastic life is here. If you were a first timer asking dopey questions I wouldn't be telling you this and I know senior members like Smoothy quite rightly like to frighten off the sex tourists, but you're also a senior member and should know the ropes.

Don't sweat the small stuff mate, get on that plane, I guarantee you won't regret it.

World Jockey
02-11-15, 04:50
Have you other gentlemen in this forum who have been to Jakarta found this to be true? Need I learn a few phrases in the Indonesian language before boarding a flight to Jakarta?As Hilo77 pointed out, you will be fine. Just go.

Yes this is anecdotal (like 90% of this board) but I found the girls in northern Jakarta to be lacking in English more than the ones in Central and South.

Other things to keep in mind is 1. This isn't 20 years ago. Google translate is your friend. If you really get into a bind whip that bad boy out.

2. Bahasa isn't a 10th as hard as say Thai. I was picking up simple words and phrases very easily. Study a bit; watch TV with Indonesian subtitles in your hotel room and you will pick up some basics.


You are right that you it does require some investment but then there's nothing for nothing in this world.

I can remember Ade, a secretary who had big jugs on a very small frame. Would come to my hotel at lunch and dinner for some.

There was Luluk, another secretary who was just lovely from the first date, where we ended up half naked going down the hotel corridor, rushing to get to the room she's now happily married in northern Europe.

Uwoh, a very cute and adventurous student who I took travelling with me all over Asia.

Tanya, who had shown me her wares on cam before we met.

Setiah who was engaged but wanted some extra.

Wibitha from Buddha Bar.

And a few others whos names I've now forgotten.

All good happy fucks on a first date. It can be done. !
It's actually possible in Jakarta but only if you have a smattering of the language and a bit of chutzpah.

I remember twice pulling it off with girls on the Busway; time from first striking up conversation to climbing into bed, maximum 20 minutes. The first occasion I already had a room in the Melawai (classy joint) and I was going to Blok M on a Friday night. I just started chatting to a girl dressed in office wear, she was on the way home from work and was going to pick up a bus to Tanggerang or Depok or some such God's cursed place. I could tell she wasn't a working girl due to her dress and lack of make-up (the passion-killing granny bloomers she was wearing later confirmed that she had not originally intended to have sex with a strange man that night). That was fun and set me up in prime form for the rest of the evening.

The second was when I was asked by a pleasant young lady one afternoon if I needed a baby sitter as she had recently left her job and was looking for new employment, I took her number and told her I would ask my wife. As we pulled up at the Terminal we continued the conversation. I said I suspected that if she had no work she mustn't have any money, which she naturally confirmed (talk about shooting the proverbial fish), well I suggested that although I was pretty sure my wife didn't need any help, if she wanted some quick cash perhaps she could help me out. There was a faintly puzzled look on her face before she grasped what I was getting at, she hesitated and said maybe another time as she wasn't quite prepared, I assured her that I would take care of all the preparations there and then, she gave it some more thought and well, you can work out the rest. Having kept her number we made a few more rendezvous later before she got a regular job in Kemang...My heroes. Yeah You fellas are right it totally can be done. I witnessed my wingman do this very deed in Costa Rica. We were souvenir shopping one night and he was flirting with the cashier. I don't know if he was just her type, The display of buying a $500 wooden vase or just dumb luck but one thing let to another and he took her to dinner after she closed. I had no clue what transpired so went to check him in the morning. Sure enough he answered the door and said one sec. 5 minutes later him and her exit with her head hanging in shame when she saw me. Cats out the bag. One other person knows what ya did last night. So yeah I have been a witness.

I have never lucked out that way with a local. I have gotten lucky with other tourists tho. I guess that whole we are both pressed for time and know how this will end helps.

The only way I sometimes lucky out with working girls is by popping their professional. They never tell me but the inexperience usually shows and when I ask they say yeah. I believe them.

Oh and BTW Hilo77 Amal is a goddess. And I think Middle eastern women are the most beautiful on the planet. As Murphy's law would have it they are also the most under wraps. Hell its even hard to find decent porn with those women. Sigh.


No worries. I just think you may be throwing the 10 rating around a little frivolously. In all my years in Jakarta, I've never seen a 10. Let alone, a 10 in the street of Blok M.Gotcha. In what country / city have you seen many elusive dimes?

Member #4530
02-11-15, 08:18
Param, with the greatest of respect, you are worrying too much.

There are plenty of hot women in Jakarta, some can speak English some don't have a word of EnglishAnd I'll add that it is, IMHO, the world's easiest language to learn for native English speakers however Hilo77's statement that you don't need to know a word of the language to get what you want is quite true. In addition the gals enjoy teaching you the keywords. Relax and have fun!

OsakaGin11
02-12-15, 03:10
Well after much planning and thinking about an Indonesian monger experience, I arrived in Jakarta at 9. 00 pm from Melbourne, Australia via transit KL.

By the time I got to the Fave Hotel on Wahid on Hasyim, it was around 11.00 pm and after a quick shower and shave I got to the BATS club in the Shangra hotel around midnight.

After a quick walk and talk with several ladies who were quoting prices from 1. 5 million are to 2. 0 for a short time and a young lady wanting a gob smacking 3. 0 K for all night! . I finally settled on a busty 30 year old Sumutran native by the name of Rosella who I negotiated 1. 0 for a short time visit at my hotel.

She promised a good long BBBJ in negotiation at BATS but in reality at my hotel room it was quite average. However sex with her in many different positions was at least an 8 out of 10. None the less I wouldn't repeat.

I have one day and night in left Jakarta as I am flying out to Malang tomorrow morning and I thinking about what a good strategy would be to spend today and tonight mongering? I have been reading good reports in the forum about Maribaya Spa in Hotel Melawai on Blok M and I was just wondering if anyone has been there recently? What is best time to go there to see the maximum of gals? How much is the cost of massage and FS and does anyone have a gal there that could recommend for a one off "unforgettable" experience with good reputation for giving an awesome BBBJ?

If I don't go there I was looking at visiting Alexis or Classic Malioboro hotels. Which is the best value for money of the those 3 hotels?

Thanks in advance.

Hilo77
02-12-15, 03:40
Yes this is anecdotal (like 90% of this board) but I found the girls in northern Jakarta to be lacking in English more than the ones in Central and South.Your perception is entirely correct, the north (where the main red-light districts are located) caters to the local trade, frequently Chinese, and locals like them fresh and unsullied.

The scene that bules would be familiar with in the south and central caters to expats and tourists so English is a requirement. Also the ladies that the bules are prepared to settle for are often older and more experienced. You pays your money and takes your choice.



Oh and BTW Hilo77 Amal is a goddess. And I think Middle eastern women are the most beautiful on the planet. As Murphy's law would have it they are also the most under wraps. Hell its even hard to find decent porn with those women. Sigh.

Make your own mate, that's what I do.

Hilo77
02-12-15, 03:48
In addition the gals enjoy teaching you the keywords. Relax and have fun!Ah the famous long-haired dictionaries, where would we be without them?

When someone tells my wife that they are impressed by my Bahasa Indonesian skills (actually very basic and in no way sufficient to get by in business or professional life, but the very fact that a bule even bothers to try learning the language often evokes praise from local people), she replies that yes I took a BI course with Berlitz.

This is indeed true, I took an eight-hour course 10 years ago which gave me the basic grammar and vocabulary ("ada", "apa", "yang", "bagaimana" that sort of stuff) but it is years of negotiating, trying to make arrangements, clarifying directions and times etc with ladies of negotiable affections that honed my linguistic skills, such as they are.

The drawback is that when I come out with some Sundanese, Batawi or low Javanese word or expression my wife's eyebrows tend to lift somewhat as she wonders what part of the Berlitz curriculum I picked that up in.

Mighty Spearsman
02-12-15, 17:33
Well after much planning and thinking about an Indonesian monger experience, I arrived in Jakarta at 9. 00 pm from Melbourne, Australia via transit KL.

By the time I got to the Fave Hotel on Wahid on Hasyim, it was around 11.00 pm and after a quick shower and shave I got to the BATS club in the Shangra hotel around midnight.

After a quick walk and talk with several ladies who were quoting prices from 1. 5 million are to 2. 0 for a short time and a young lady wanting a gob smacking 3. 0 K for all night! . I finally settled on a busty 30 year old Sumutran native by the name of Rosella who I negotiated 1. 0 for a short time visit at my hotel.

She promised a good long BBBJ in negotiation at BATS but in reality at my hotel room it was quite average. However sex with her in many different positions was at least an 8 out of 10. None the less I wouldn't repeat.

I have one day and night in left Jakarta as I am flying out to Malang tomorrow morning and I thinking about what a good strategy would be to spend today and tonight mongering? I have been reading good reports in the forum about Maribaya Spa in Hotel Melawai on Blok M and I was just wondering if anyone has been there recently? What is best time to go there to see the maximum of gals? How much is the cost of massage and FS and does anyone have a gal there that could recommend for a one off "unforgettable" experience with good reputation for giving an awesome BBBJ?

If I don't go there I was looking at visiting Alexis or Classic Malioboro hotels. Which is the best value for money of the those 3 hotels?

Thanks in advance.Re: Maribaya Spa, the shift change is around 5 pm so that's when you'll find the most girls available (the shifts overlap). Don't worry about the day shift girls wanting to go home. For a paying customer, they'll gladly stay the extra hour. If you stop by Maribaya after 9 pm the pickings might be slim.

Of the 3 hotels you mentioned, IMHO Malioboro is the best value-for-money. Alexis is a bit more pricey, while Classic is lower-priced but more hit-or-miss, as you might end up with a young hottie but you may also end up with a young starfish.

P.S. I'm happy to read that you did not patronize the girl who wanted 3 million for all night. Ridiculous!

Fast Eddie 48
02-12-15, 23:47
Well after much planning and thinking about an Indonesian monger experience, I arrived in Jakarta at 9. 00 pm from Melbourne, Australia via transit KL.

By the time I got to the Fave Hotel on Wahid on Hasyim, it was around 11.00 pm and after a quick shower and shave I got to the BATS club in the Shangra hotel around midnight.

After a quick walk and talk with several ladies who were quoting prices from 1. 5 million are to 2. 0 for a short time and a young lady wanting a gob smacking 3. 0 K for all night! . I finally settled on a busty 30 year old Sumutran native by the name of Rosella who I negotiated 1. 0 for a short time visit at my hotel.

She promised a good long BBBJ in negotiation at BATS but in reality at my hotel room it was quite average. However sex with her in many different positions was at least an 8 out of 10. None the less I wouldn't repeat.

I have one day and night in left Jakarta as I am flying out to Malang tomorrow morning and I thinking about what a good strategy would be to spend today and tonight mongering? I have been reading good reports in the forum about Maribaya Spa in Hotel Melawai on Blok M and I was just wondering if anyone has been there recently? What is best time to go there to see the maximum of gals? How much is the cost of massage and FS and does anyone have a gal there that could recommend for a one off "unforgettable" experience with good reputation for giving an awesome BBBJ?

If I don't go there I was looking at visiting Alexis or Classic Malioboro hotels. Which is the best value for money of the those 3 hotels?






Thanks in advance.To Osaka Gin.

There are 2 Disco for pick up near your hotel I pick up some nice girl at Golden Crown in Glodok for 700 k for st and Millie at lokasari plaza at Manga Besar near hotel travel, for value classic offer girl starting at 350 k but room is small same for hotel travel but Alexis and Malioboro have better quality girl and room.

Fast eddie 48.

Frankie555
02-13-15, 01:53
I have been reading good reports in the forum about Maribaya Spa in Hotel Melawai on Blok M and I was just wondering if anyone has been there recently? What is best time to go there to see the maximum of gals? How much is the cost of massage and FS and does anyone have a gal there that could recommend for a one off "unforgettable" experience with good reputation for giving an awesome BBBJ?Day shift before 4:30 offers best selections.

Cost is 600 k per session.

Arty, Henny, Egi, Nini, are some names that come to mind but rarely disappointed there for your particular request.

Also, for others, I noticed that there are a couple of new faces in there the last few weeks.

Jaunelis
02-14-15, 11:35
First trip to Jakarta and my first report here. Been going places for few years now so I am not new to this stuff, hope you guys find it helpful. I am European in my early 30's, pretty with pretty decent looks, I work out and generally take care of my body.

Arrived in the afternoon, took Blue Bird taxi from the airport to Sparks Hotel. Cost around 160 k with tolls and a small tip, there was a huge traffic so I presume price is normally a little lower as on my way back to airport I did pay around 130 k.

Sparks hotel. In the center of action, Lokasari plaza just 3 minutes away and tons of other places around. On the other hand not much to do in that area during daytime. As I like walking long distances not a problem for me. The hotel itself has a karaoke and "spa" inside. Had a short trip to top floor karaoke, few girls sitting around, none particularly of my taste so my trip was short. Also went to SPA as I heard there are themed rooms to take girls to, e. G. Plane, office, jungle. When I arrived there, place was empty, mamasan asked if I want a good massage, price 300 k 1,5 hrs. I said why not, but, I cannot choose a girl! She is supposed to pick me one, and this is never a go for me, as I am picking the girls not somebody else. So I thanked and went out. Actually this was happening on my 3rd night and I knew a definite place to go.

Travel Hotel. This is a place I went to my first night and in the end kept visiting every night. Located no more than 10 min walk from Sparks, has a spa in it. When you enter you are given a number and all the costs inside are charged on it. Though you pay for girls separately and straight after "you pick". There is "trick" there, when you go downstairs to lounge area with girls, competing mamasans try to get you and push you a girl from her area, not like you just go and pick any sitting there. To be fair out of 30 or so girls sitting there at least half were strong 8's and just few of them I would never pick and I am extremely picky.

On my first night being new to this type of "casting" I took nice young girl mamasan pushed through, though she was not the 1st out of the bunch she tried to sell me. Cost 300 k. Took me to rooms upstairs, which are nice and clean. Took a shower then main dish. Girl was very nice, limited but decent English. Covered BJ, then sex, pretty decent session, but I could not finish wearing Indonesian condom, extremely small, would rather have my own. Though there was a bonus behind it took it off and asked if she could do a BBBJ and then finish in her mouth, not sure if she understood the 2nd part but she was up to uncovered stuff and had to be surprised when I splashed into her mouth. She did not seem to be very disappointed though. Gave her a 50 k tip. Maybe cheap.

Alexis. I had an idea to go to Alexis or Malio club, but as I was walking not far from Alexis area and needed some daytime "rest" decided to go in. Well I would have better taken a cab, as streets leading to it are not particularly made for walking even for me. Had to jump to a truck to take me through a lightly flooded road. In the end arrived near Alexis hotel. Had my bag searched and leave camera in a lobby, then took elevator to SPA floor. Entrance 150 k and you are given a key to a locker. All the stuff is packed in the locker so no need to bring your swimwear and etc. Facilities extremely nice clean and look posh. Opted to go to spa area first, very nice though not much to do, steam and regular sauna, couple of jacuzzis. If you are lazy enough you can call a mamasan / papasan and they would bring girls to your "beach" chair or lounge and you can pick. This is something I noticed Asian visitors were constantly doing. It was still early around 3 pm So not too many visitors. Instantly spotted few absolutely perfect girls. Cannot give anybody a 10, but they would be like 9,8 or smth. Decided that there is no point to wait, so headed downstairs to girl area to see all girls. Again similar to Travel hotel it is hard to walk around and pick the one you want there as you are seated and have to wait till somebody comes up to suggest girls. Called papasan and asked for the prices. There are Indonesian, Chinese, Kazakh and Russian girls in, so the prices are different. Was quotes 1,375 MIL for Indo girls, and 2,750 or some Mil for any other. At that point I was like WTF. 1,3 Mil for Indo girls looking not better thant the ones in Travel hotel for 300 k. Chinese lineup had some very strong candidates, but 2,7 MIL = 150 EUR or so, did not motivate me as well. Can get ton of stunners in German FKKs for 3 times less than that. Prices are for 30 minutes in jacuzzi and 1 HR in a room. Politely told the papasan that I would think, but stayed 1 more hour in spa area and left.

Travel Hotel again. Went to travel hotel that night, again same routine, mamasan attacks you tries to push girls, but now I was more firm and rejected all her attempts and basically went straight to the area where girls are sitting and began browsing. When I saw the one I want I just searched for mamasan next to the area and asked if she is your's. This scheme worked!, though nobody in the club was following it. Again 300 k, nice girl, but almost no English. Decent session, though no uncovered BJ this time. 100 k tip.

On my 3rd night went to travel hotel again, as I have save a ton in Alexis, decided to pick 2 girls at once, which is 525 k! What a bargain. Picked 2 very nice girls I missed on my 2nd day there and had a very good session as I brought my own condoms. Still no uncovered BJ which is kind of only disappointment in that place. Gave each 100 k as they were really girl friendly.

Lokasari Plaza. Did not go to any establishments there, but many of spas Karaokes around. Does not matter how you call them, same stuff.

Skout. I had an app installed on my phone which shows where you are located, had a ton of interest from Indo girls texting me and some calling to meet, though due to my short stay and will to see something in the city, this time I did not manage to meet any of them.

So that is it, will I go back to Jakarta? HM, most definitely if I am in Asia, very good price / quality ratio, not many tourists and that is brilliant. City itself is not that impressive, poor public transport and not much to see, but enough to have 3-4 good days there.

Gonzo Two
02-15-15, 12:49
Travel Hotel. This is a place I went to my first night and in the end kept visiting every night. Located no more than 10 min walk from Sparks, has a spa in it. When you enter you are given a number and all the costs inside are charged on it. Though you pay for girls separately and straight after "you pick". The mamasan can be a trifle on the pushy side. I usually go straight on through to the room with the pool tables and sit down. When the mamasan come steaming in, I lie and tell them that I've already taken a girl from the other rooms, I'm just relaxing and "cuci mata" by looking at what's on offer. I wait until I make eye contact with one of the girls, then tell the mamasan. Maybe she thinks I'm up for seconds, or maybe she can tell from my tag that I told a porky earlier, but it just gives me a bit of space to choose a girl who's going to provide better service.

Smoothy
02-15-15, 14:39
I usually go straight on through to the room with the pool tables and sit down. Most of the girls are out of eye sight from that room. You can sit in the good area where all the girls are and still be fine. If you just tell the mamasans that you want to have some drinks first or that you are waiting for your friend, they will leave you alone. If they don't, then say "Jangan ganggu saya", which is actually a pretty rude way to say don't bother me. That will chase them away. They will still be happy to help you later when you do want a girl. Sometimes I like the mamasans to aggressively bring girls over though. At least I can see them standing and say hello to them that way.

Xxanty
02-16-15, 20:29
I enjoyed my time in stadium last year, hot girls with reasonable price with good rooms in one place.

I will be in Jakarta next month, As stadium is closed, is there any similar place to that?

Mr Enternational
02-17-15, 12:38
Pipelayer is in Jakarta for the next 10 - 12. He can not access ISG so I am posting this for him.

Anyone in town want to meet to go to Classic, Malioboro, Alexis, a club, or Blok M? 0812 1023 9461.

DownUnderMonger
02-19-15, 06:47
Hi All.

Just wondering if hardcore mongers know if Kalijodo or the other one has been closed down?

JAD took me to these places a couple of years ago to find some 'bigger girls' (I previously went to Kartika / Aloha for them, or trawled the streets off Hayam Wuruk for them LOL).

Tommy Suharto
02-19-15, 13:02
Hi All.

Just wondering if hardcore mongers know if Kalijodo or the other one has been closed down?

JAD took me to these places a couple of years ago to find some 'bigger girls' (I previously went to Kartika / Aloha for them, or trawled the streets off Hayam Wuruk for them LOL).Kalijodo is still going, as far as I know. But being the oldest monger area in Jakarta, it's not for every one. It's a local monger area and you have to know what you are doing, IMHO. The back alleys are not safe. If you are from out of town, you'll stick out like a sore thumb, better to go there with a friend or wingman who knows the local customs and speaks bahasa.

What 'other one'?

Member #4385
02-19-15, 17:02
I'm sure it is still up for business, at least from what I can see read from the local-mongerer reports at kaskus. Co. I'd. Last report I read was from December last year and the cost for ST was 250 K. I think I would have read or heard about it somewhere in the local media, had it been shut down.

I went there with another foreigner friend a couple years ago, at around midnight, after having had a heavy karaoke session somewhere in Kota. I remember it wasn't too far with a taxi from Kota, and the local shitty Kota taxi (not bluevird) knew where to go. As we hadn't been there before, we entered the first small house where a mamasan was standing outside, waiving down the taxi. There was a few girls in the house, and we both selected a girl. Both reasonable lookers, 18-20 yo. Service basic, kind of starfish. The rooms were basic, but homey, as the girls sleep in the rooms as well. Think we overpaid, but still only 300.000 rp incl tip. If I recall correctly. Afterwards we took a ojeg back to Kota, as we could not find a taxi.

People were friendly, but I too, would suggest any newbies / guys without much local knowledge and Indonesian language skills, to show precaution when visiting Kalijodo or reroute to the Kota area instead.

Wamena


Kalijodo is still going, as far as I know. But being the oldest monger area in Jakarta, it's not for every one. It's a local monger area and you have to know what you are doing, IMHO. The back alleys are not safe. If you are from out of town, you'll stick out like a sore thumb, better to go there with a friend or wingman who knows the local customs and speaks bahasa.

What 'other one'?

Possessed Seoul
02-19-15, 17:06
The Jakarta 100 bars website did a review on it last year. Google the website name and Kalijodo and you will find it. I don't mind going "Bush" occasionally, but my spidey senses tingle even driving past this place along the toll. Go with someone and be alert.


Hi All.

Just wondering if hardcore mongers know if Kalijodo or the other one has been closed down?

JAD took me to these places a couple of years ago to find some 'bigger girls' (I previously went to Kartika / Aloha for them, or trawled the streets off Hayam Wuruk for them LOL).

Hilo77
02-20-15, 03:30
I don't mind going "Bush" occasionally, but my spidey senses tingle even driving past this place along the toll. Go with someone and be alert.Me too, I went there once because I like to push the envelope and see what is on offer off the beaten track (for bules, locals would find it perfectly mainstream) and it just didn't appeal. Don't get me wrong, I didn't feel in any way threatened or in danger, quite the opposite the mamasan was more than hospitable and willing to help but it just didn't click. If you are a bule there is no real reason to go there, there's nothing on offer that you can't find in any of the more well-known joints.

Smoothy
02-21-15, 22:55
Not even one of the My Bar calender girls?That calendar was well done. Made all those girls look like models. I believe Yuli still works at Dees as a bartender. You can check her out in person there and give your rating.

Hilo77
02-22-15, 03:24
That calendar was well done. Made all those girls look like models. I believe Yuli still works at Dees as a bartender. You can check her out in person there and give your rating.I took me a second or two to recognise her, in fairness she's still a decent looking bird for a single mum in her thirties, I dare say she'd scrub up well. I wouldn't have minded getting to know her back in 2005 mind you.

Smoothy
02-22-15, 13:01
I took me a second or two to recognise her, in fairness she's still a decent looking bird for a single mum in her thirties, I dare say she'd scrub up well. I wouldn't have minded getting to know her back in 2005 mind you.She had a great ass back in 2005 and used it well to tantalize guys on the dance floor upstairs in the old Dees. She worked the 6th floor at Maribaya for a bit as well back then. Her sister also works at Dees these days as a sexy dancer, although her sister's prime was also back around 2005. Not that I'm complaining, my prime was back in 1983.

Smoothy
02-22-15, 13:18
Anjani is still working the back room at Dees. She has one of the best bodies I've ever seen on the Blok.

Hilo77
02-23-15, 03:05
Anjani is still working the back room at Dees. She has one of the best bodies I've ever seen on the Blok.A great ass, in more ways than one.

Menteng
02-23-15, 04:33
That calendar was well done. Made all those girls look like models. I believe Yuli still works at Dees as a bartender. You can check her out in person there and give your rating.My favorite was Tasya.

Cooze Hound
02-23-15, 07:19
That calendar was well done. Made all those girls look like models. I believe Yuli still works at Dees as a bartender. You can check her out in person there and give your rating.A Dee's calendar is currently under discussion. Guess it would mainly feature the Dancers.

Smoothy
02-23-15, 12:00
I notice that Wiwin is back on the Blok. Saw her in Top Gun dancing up a storm. She's always entertaining. She's the one wearing short shorts, tall stripper boots, shirt that exposes her stomach, and dancing like a maniac either on the pole or on the stage. Can't miss her. I was sitting near the area with the pole when she was dancing there, and when she was doing her leg splits, I noticed she wasn't wearing any underwear. I asked her about it and she said said the guys like it when she doesn't wear underwear. I can't argue that.

Tommy Suharto
02-23-15, 13:20
My favorite was Tasya. I remember her working behind the VIP bar of the old the's place. It had a great ambiance that little bar.

She used to be on the calendar that was published on the Jakarta blok M website. But it disappeared. Does anyone know what happened to that site? Apart from a great calendar, I much enjoyed reading it.

Smoothy
02-23-15, 14:38
She used to be on the calendar that was published on the Jakarta blok M website. But it disappeared. Does anyone know what happened to that site? Apart from a great calendar, I much enjoyed reading it.That site is still there, unchanged. He never posted pictures of the actual calendar, but posted photos from the calendar shoot and the competition. I used to post there frequently, but at some point it became impossible to log on with a password to post. It always told me my password was wrong. I even asked Rev to reset it, and he did, but it never did work again. So I just stopped posting. It seemed more people had the same problem because everyone stopped posting around then. That was a shame because that was a fairly busy site with frequent posters at the time.

Smoothy
02-23-15, 14:41
I remember her working behind the VIP bar of the old the's place.Tasya also worked Highway to Elle about 5 years ago. But that was a bit after her prime.

Tommy Suharto
02-23-15, 23:42
That site is still there, unchanged. He never posted pictures of the actual calendar, but posted photos from the calendar shoot and the competition. I used to post there frequently, but at some point it became impossible to log on with a password to post. It always told me my password was wrong. I even asked Rev to reset it, and he did, but it never did work again. So I just stopped posting. It seemed more people had the same problem because everyone stopped posting around then. That was a shame because that was a fairly busy site with frequent posters at the time.You are the best. Thanks, found it. Menteng, may like this..

http://jakartablokm.com/gallery/album-mybar-calendar/slides/tasya30.html

Hilo77
02-24-15, 04:20
You are the best. Thanks, found it. Menteng, may like this..

http://jakartablokm.com/gallery/album-mybar-calendar/slides/tasya30.htmlTasya, like her sisters who all had Russian names, was quite hot but she ruined her look with the most god-awful ugly tattoo of a cross on the back of her neck a few years ago. She had a bule boyfriend, a Brit if I'm not mistaken, who drove a second-hand BMW and always liked to give the impression of wealth and influence that matched neither his clothes nor choice of car, or indeed choice of hang-out.

The last time I saw Tasya I thought the years and drink and cigarettes had not been kind to her.

Gosh, with Menteng and Smoothy here this place is beginning to sound a bit like the Block M blog revived.

Menteng
02-24-15, 04:25
That site is still there, unchanged. He never posted pictures of the actual calendar, but posted photos from the calendar shoot and the competition. I used to post there frequently, but at some point it became impossible to log on with a password to post. It always told me my password was wrong. I even asked Rev to reset it, and he did, but it never did work again. So I just stopped posting. It seemed more people had the same problem because everyone stopped posting around then. That was a shame because that was a fairly busy site with frequent posters at the time.I have had the same problem and took the same decision. Mind you, I was one of the very first to post on its photo section. If memory serves me right I even contacted the second (moderator of that site, who is also active here, to put some effort, but alas!

Menteng
02-24-15, 04:31
You are the best. Thanks, found it. Menteng, may like this..

http://jakartablokm.com/gallery/album-mybar-calendar/slides/tasya30.htmlYou bet! Hmmm, 10 years ago, already! I was already in my very late fifties then but was still going very strong. I didn't expect my activities to decline so fast to my nowadays level (sigh).

Smoothy
02-24-15, 06:34
Tasya, like her sisters who all had Russian names, was quite hot but she ruined her look with the most god-awful ugly tattoo of a cross on the back of her neck a few years ago. She had a bule boyfriend, a Brit if I'm not mistaken, who drove a second-hand BMW and always liked to give the impression of wealth and influence that matched neither his clothes nor choice of car, or indeed choice of hang-out.

The last time I saw Tasya I thought the years and drink and cigarettes had not been kind to her.I hate it when the girls get tattoos like that. I always thought she was a nice girl. She has a great smile. Whenever she'd see me around the Blok, she'd make a point to come up and talk for a bit. But I didn't meet her in her prime back in 2005, I met her around 2009. By that time, I wasn't really interested in taking her home. Nice girl to talk with though. I think she's engaged to an Aussie now. The time frame to catch these girls in their prime is normally quite short. As you mentioned, the drinking, cigarettes, and party lifestyle catch up to them quickly.

Traveler1234
02-24-15, 15:25
I was already in my very late fifties then but was still going very strong. I didn't expect my activities to decline so fast to my nowadays level (sigh).We're all getting old. You need Ms. Li to come back and get it going, LOL!

Menteng
02-25-15, 04:15
We're all getting old. You need Ms. Li to come back and get it going, LOL!I don't think the place is still there. Maybe I should go to South China one day, to look for her.

IllusionHeart
02-25-15, 16:50
I would be visiting Jakarta first time for 5 nights in first week of May. My plan is to visit Travel, Classic, Alexis and Malioboro in the afternoons and hit CJs, BATS or Blok M bars in night as I prefer LT.

I am currently planning to book Hotel Mercure Kota for 3 nights and Win Hotel for 2 nights so that I get to stay in both parts of the city and split the pain of travel. Getting rate of USD 36 per night at Mercure and won't mind extending upto 50- 70 USD per night if I am to save lot commute.

I don't know if FL girls would be ready to travel to Kota for the night and wouldn't want to give up on some good ones if travel to kota is going to be a concern. I don't want to waste too much time travelling to Kota either during daytime by staying in opposite part of town.

I wouldn't mind being located centrally if I can get options at the same price (. Request suggestions from members on whether it makes sense for my current hotel plan or should I book 5 nights in Hotel Mercure Kota.

I would be landing at 11.30 pm in Jakarta from Manila and would reach Hotel not earlier than 2 am. Are there any options available in the night such as visit to Blok M bars or some discos or does the town shut down at this time.

TIA.

Fast Eddie 48
02-26-15, 02:56
I would be visiting Jakarta first time for 5 nights in first week of May. My plan is to visit Travel, Classic, Alexis and Malioboro in the afternoons and hit CJs, BATS or Blok M bars in night as I prefer LT.

I am currently planning to book Hotel Mercure Kota for 3 nights and Win Hotel for 2 nights so that I get to stay in both parts of the city and split the pain of travel. Getting rate of USD 36 per night at Mercure and won't mind extending upto 50- 70 USD per night if I am to save lot commute.

I don't know if FL girls would be ready to travel to Kota for the night and wouldn't want to give up on some good ones if travel to kota is going to be a concern. I don't want to waste too much time travelling to Kota either during daytime by staying in opposite part of town.

I wouldn't mind being located centrally if I can get options at the same price (. Request suggestions from members on whether it makes sense for my current hotel plan or should I book 5 nights in Hotel Mercure Kota.

I would be landing at 11.30 pm in Jakarta from Manila and would reach Hotel not earlier than 2 am. Are there any options available in the night such as visit to Blok M bars or some discos or does the town shut down at this time.

TIA.To Illusionheart.

There are disco in Kota that you can pick up girls after midnight until the morning, I don't think you will like win hotel is a dump Mecure is a much better hotel you can stay at spark hotel is about 55 usd no far from Mecure meter taxi is very cheap in Jarkata most short trip is under 5 usd.

Fast eddie 48.

StudBucket
02-27-15, 02:06
I would be visiting Jakarta first time for 5 nights in first week of May. My plan is to visit Travel, Classic, Alexis and Malioboro in the afternoons and hit CJs, BATS or Blok M bars in night as I prefer LT.

I am currently planning to book Hotel Mercure Kota for 3 nights and Win Hotel for 2 nights so that I get to stay in both parts of the city and split the pain of travel. Getting rate of USD 36 per night at Mercure and won't mind extending upto 50- 70 USD per night if I am to save lot commute.

I don't know if FL girls would be ready to travel to Kota for the night and wouldn't want to give up on some good ones if travel to kota is going to be a concern. I don't want to waste too much time travelling to Kota either during daytime by staying in opposite part of town.

I wouldn't mind being located centrally if I can get options at the same price (. Request suggestions from members on whether it makes sense for my current hotel plan or should I book 5 nights in Hotel Mercure Kota.

I would be landing at 11.30 pm in Jakarta from Manila and would reach Hotel not earlier than 2 am. Are there any options available in the night such as visit to Blok M bars or some discos or does the town shut down at this time.

TIA.I just got back from a 1 week stay in Indonesia and other cities in Asia and was in Jakarta for most of the time. The FL girls in any place in Jakarta do not bring up nor care what part of Jakarta you are staying in if you are intending to get her LT as you say you are. We pulled girls from the North and also stayed in Central Jakarta almost near the south, and this was never an issue. Just use the time in the cab to continue to chat her up and it will go fast. As Fast Eddie says, taxis are inexpensive, but make sure to use the "Blue Bird Taxi " which are the blue cabs that say the name Blue Bird on the side doors as other taxis may cost more. We stayed near Central Jakarta and it was very convenient. The Mercure is a good hotel chain, and I would not recommend switching staying in different parts of the cities as the traffic and distances were not far enough to merit this.

Ibn Buttita
02-27-15, 02:10
Jakarta is a top contender for being my favorite sex destination. Besides a brief layover visit to Alexis in 2009, I had my first major visit in April 2011, and have made another three trips in the last year and a half. In August 2013 Jakarta was the opening act for a sex tour that also included the Philippines (Angeles), Singapore, and one night in Bangkok. April 2014 saw me there as the "fun" part of a Bali beach holiday. And I started out 2015 with Jakarta leading off a trip that also featured Angeles. I'm finally writing up these visits.

Jakarta does feel like a second (sex) home; I can't count the number of walks, taxi rides, and ojeck lifts up and down Mangga Besar on the way to and from various venues. The great thing about that location is that the sex is so pervasive it practically comes to you. One night on my most recent trip as I was headed back to my room to finally get some sleep, the hotel bellboys ecouraged me to take a look inside a minivan parked in the hotel driveway. Inside there were about four girls, hot and fresh to order like pizza delivery. I decided to pass, but it was right there if I wanted!

Ibn Buttita
02-27-15, 02:11
On all my multi-day Jakarta trips I've spent a good amount of time in the Kartika-Berlian massage parlor alley. This has always been a go-to location for me, within reasonable walking distances from my lodging near Loksari Plaza on Mangga Besar, and a good option for morning mongering.

I had visited Kartika on my first major visit to Jakarta in 2011, and so returned during in August 2013. Like my first time, on entering I was immediately approached by cute, petite Mia, greeting me with big smiles. With a lackluster lineup Mia and a friend were easy choices, and we went slip sliding away in an entertaining but showy rather than truly erotic way: a packaged performance. I ultimately escaped the room after a tipping encounter that felt like extortion.

The lure of the mythical Kartika experience persisted, so last April I made a return to experience the "hamburger" two girl performance, as they all call it there. Swarmed as usual by smiley Mia, this time I felt like trying someone new, however, and so went with slender Leah and busty, thick Tanti. They did not stand out so much from the rest of the women there, still an older group without many lookers.

"Hamburger" is an appropriate term: while you do get your meat between their buns, it's a fast food operation at Kartika. The well-rehearsed routine was athletic but pretty stale, a rushed act that didn't provide much pleasure. And too much washing, too little banging. Tanti did give me the kegel squeeze, and was impressed that for that skill I marked her as from Madura. But the hectoring for a higher tip at the end was extremely annoying. I decided that it would be my last visit to Kartika, and on this most recent visit in January I did not return, although I was in the alley often, as I write below.

A new discovery in April 2014 was the first massage parlor on as you enter the alley, Royal Mas. I had passed on the invitations of the papasans outside numerous times in the past but decided to try it one morning. I found the lounge teeming with girls; I wondered how they made enough business given the numbers. The selection was a mixed bag, but I settled on a cutie named Dewi. The room was pretty basic, resembling a walk in closet, with a mattress on the floor. This sweetie was very affectionate and the sex very satisfying, so I came back two days later after my Kartika disappointment, and Dewi more than made up for that with a warm embrace and more. I didn't return on my latest visit this year, a time crunch but partly since I doubted I would find Dewi there again.

But my main haunt on the alley was Berlian. It's actually the place where I've conducted my longest long-distance mongering relationship. Back in 2013 I made the acquaintance of Erna, a lovely island girl right out of a Matisse painting. Quiet and sensitive, her shy smile won my heart. Over the years I've lost my head kissing her soft lips and pert breasts and caressing the gentle curves of her body.

Given her demure nature, it's now surprising to me that when I first met her in August 2013, it was in a threesome. My reason for checking out Berlian in the first place was to try another two-girl soapy, since like Kartika Berlian also offers these. The rooms at Berlian are small but clean, with a shower stall and strong air conditioning, but aren't specially designed for soapies; they just take the cotton sheet off the bed and lie you down on the plastic mattress. While the rooms are less specialized than at Kartika they are nicer, less like an operating room, and at R760,000 for the duo (back then) including tip it was a better value than Kartika, and minus all the drama of the girls' hounding for tips.

I recall that in my first threesome with Erna her partner was Sari, a short haired, slender, sexy woman a few years older than her. I enjoyed slip-sliding through the session, but especially my connection with Erna. I returned a couple of days later to repeat but this time with Erna and a different girl, Dita. It was the day of my departure, but I knew I would have to try to get back to Erna if I at all could.

I did this in a big way in April 2014, meeting up with Erna at Berlian on four of the five days of my trip. The first session also included a girl named Fifi, as I bowed to the mamasan's pleas to take two girls, but after that I only went solo with Erna. I even squeezed in two visits my last day, one just before I had to get to the airport. On the one day I did not see Erna it was because it was her day off, so I had a solo with a cutie who was a bit chubby but looked great in braces.

Since I never called Erna between visits, I really wondered if she would be there when I got back to Jakarta this January. The place looked like nothing had changed, with the same cast of characters. The tiny sparkplug of a mamasan (also called Erna) who whenever she spotted me outside would grab my arm and March me inside to a couch; her smiley mamasan partner in crime; and the less smiley desk girl; plus the bored looking girls on couches. Then there was the persistent old masseuse who always tried to persuade me to bring her in on my sessions; from her free massage samples given as I waited on the couch I could tell she was very good, but I did not want to pay sex massage prices for a regular, though good, massage.

One change I did notice was that Erna was not there. My favorite mamasan instantly called her, and I got nervous when she got no reply, but she eventually made contact and "my" Erna and she arrived after 20 minutes. Every time I went to see Erna the mamasan had to call her to come in, so I suspect Erna is no longer a regular at Berlian.

Our reunion session was sweet, and I returned the following two mornings. I did get a scare on the last day when the mamasan reported that Erna was busy; I exchanged numbers with the mama and met my Jakarta friend for coffee, and eventually the mama called with the good news that Erna had arrived. We spent another hour together, and I hope for another reunion on my next visit to Jarkarta.

Ibn Buttita
02-27-15, 02:12
Back when I visited in summer 2013 and spring of 2014 Stadium was still going strong, and was one of my favorite venues. I loved the sin-city atmosphere. The nude dancers on multiple floors, pussy for hire in the midst of Indonesian youth and foreign backpacker types there for the djs' trance beats. It made other sex venues around the world seem tame, right here in the world's largest Muslim nation.

I had first visited Stadium in August 2013, and on each of two nights I made two trips to the bedrooms. The medieval decor, complete with flying dragon hovering over the trancing dancers below, very much fit the club's dark magic. It makes me think back to when I was 13 and drew up plans for a vampire's castle featuring torture chambers (obviously), but also bedrooms where he could ravish young innocent victims. Stadium felt like that kind of place, and it was good to be the vampire. Only I didn't have blood lust, just lust for pussy.

The mamasans in the big hall (the only part of the club I ever picked a girl), sent one after another to me as I nursed the free drink that came with the entry ticket. They finally sent one who was just right, a petite cutie just my style, with a look almost more Latina than Asian. Since she had no English we didn't speak much before getting to the room, so I assumed she would be a demure little thing. Not quite: once inside she practically ripped my clothes off, and we were soon fucking with abandon. The room we were assigned had weak air conditioning and so was hot, but what really heated the place us was the two of us.

And I don't mean metaphorically, we were going at it so furiously that the place practically steamed up, We were drenched, sweat flying as Putri rode me wildly. We collapsed in exhaustion after I came hard, but that didn't deter me from keeping her in the room for a second hour, my energy soon restored by this naked little vixen, and the feel of her lips on my cock.

I took another girl to a room afterward, but memories of my session with Putri have wiped those of the other girl from my mind, along with any recall of the next girl I fucked at Stadium the next night. I do remember the awkwardness when I tried to hire out some cuties hanging out near the mamasans' corner, and learning that they were civilians. My main goal for that second night was to get together with Putri again. Her mamasan was willing to help me with my quest, but Putri was otherwise occupied when I asked, and for another couple of hours. I felt desperate asking the mama several times, but she always kindly counseled me to be patient. Eventually Putri did emerge, and I felt like a long-lost lover had returned, and we resumed where we had left off the night before.

On my April 2014 trip I returned to Stadium, with finding Putri again my priority. I was disappointed but not surprised to learn from the mamasans that she was not there, but did see I had plenty of options, with the back corners of the Stadium dance hall packed with hookers. I had a session that night and two on my last night in Jakarta, two days later, but the experiences never recaptured that of my first time there.

Most memorably, I connected with a girl that seemed like a civilian, though, dancing to the beat in (or on) ecstasy, swaying in a gauzy dress (a flower in her hair? Lily's spacey-ness really attracted me, and she was friendly and we could communicate in English in snatches over the thumping trance. At the reception desk I paid for a room (given the venue these were surprisingly plush at Stadium), and she began to strip down. But from there things went downhill. I had figured that her chemical enhancement would make for an exciting session, but instead Lily became increasingly incoherent and unable to perform, all movements halting. Outside of some brief enjoyment of her tall, slim body the session came to naught.

A session with a girl named Dewi left me with few memories. On a sour note, a following session sticks in my mind for negative reasons. I had spotted this tall, gorgeous model type at one point, and took her to the room despite the late hour and the inevitable toll of a day on which I had already shot four loads, when not outside battling the Jakarta heat and humidity. Sofia didn't make it any easier to perform, as she was a cold as she was beautiful. Not inclined toward making any efforts to get me aroused, the session went nowhere, but it was almost worth the R325,000 to see her naked.

With the less than stellar sessions on that Spring 2014 visit, maybe it was not so bad that Stadium was no longer an option on my last trip in January. But I still have some damn fond memories of the place.

One more thing. In spring 2014 I checked out the other dance-plus-mongering spot I had read about, Millie's disco in Loksari Plaza, plus the nearby club on Mangga Besar with a grand classical entrance. At both places I enjoyed the trance, but I could not tell is some of the younger / attractive women I could barely see in the darkness could be taken out; a couple of women who definitely were available were not work it. And given the deafening music I don't know how I would have struck up a deal anyway.

Ibn Buttita
02-27-15, 02:13
When I think about Jakarta and sex, Classic Hotel and Travel Hotel are the venues I most associate with the city. It's not because they are the best places I have visited there (far from it). But their model feels so distinctive, so unique to Jakarta, in how affordable they are, the glitziness, the entertainment (singers, nude dancers, pool tables), the large numbers and the profile of the girls (cute and / or young). I've seen venues with similar elements in other places around the world, but these "couch brothels" as I have seen them called just scream "Jakarta" to me.

I've made them regular stops on my trips to Jakarta, although honestly the experiences have been uneven. I was a real Classic glutton on my August 2013 Asian sex tour, visiting on back to back nights and doing eight girls, two threesomes each night. At around R550,000 (I forget the exact price) for taking two girls together, it was value that could not be ignored. But it is revealing that I know the names of the girls I fucked (Flora & Manda, Sophie & Mitra, Nancy & Ik, and Dida & Adel), but have zero recollection of what they looked like or how the sex was.

In April 2014 I returned to Classic. I stopped up at the fifth floor but spent my money down at second floor Terminal, whose atmosphere (and occasional nude dancers) I preferred. Sex-wise, I had an unremarkable threesome with a pair of girls, Febu from Bandung and Ekka from Surabaya.

This January trip I came back for more, partly for the convenience. I took the metro one stop from Mangga Besar to Sawah Bessar and made the short walk over to the hotel. Choosing the second floor club as usual, on this latest visit, for a change, I did not opt for a threesome. I bounced from the territory of one mamasan to the next, sending back a couple of girls summoned to me. But one mama called over a tall cutie who easily stood out among the many average looking girls on the couches.

Eena looked fantastic, was attentive, and spoke very good English: a perfect courtesan. But while attentive to her client, she rebuffed my attempts to create a passionate mood. She agreed to my request to go down on her, but soon told me that she had to service me, and held firm on playing that role rather than let me do the same to her. So as far as a fuck with a sweet young thing goes it was fine, but not the kind of "getting swept away" sex I prefer.

Hotel Travel featured as part of my travel plans in August 2013. One of the reasons I like staying at the Astika Hotel on Mangga Besar is that it is literally around the corner from Travel (although that rationale is diminishing, as you will read). I dedicated one night's entertainment to Travel on that trip, doing a threesome with Dicha and Tira (the price was a bit steeper than at Classic) and then a session with a girl named Susan. You guessed it: my mind is a blank slate about those experiences. In April 2014 I didn't even make it over to Travel.

This January I had planned to make it a regular afternoon stop, a place for a quick afternoon shag after an after-lunch nap, but before the main activities of the night. I never did get around to doing this, however. But one late night after enjoying myself at Kota Indah's LA Bar, I rejected my body's advice to go to sleep and strolled from my hotel to Travel, ignoring the many taxi drivers calling out "girls! You want a girl?" as I walked around the block to Hotel Travel. I soon revived, but knew I had little time to linger, as it was after 1 AM and the place closed at 3. I was here definitively for the R525,000 threesome deal.

The mamas brought over a few girls but Indecisiveness haunted me, so I eventually settled on one tallish slender girl I had already dismissed. I asked for the mama to bring us another, and she paired Eesa up with her friend Layna, who had a nice booty on her. I knew that this would have a dynamic of its own, but wasn't sure what it would be.

Once in the room one of them turned the TV on right away and I knew that this would not exactly passionate, especially given the late hour. My acceptance of the situation helped. While the girls were workmanlike, they did put in a good effort. Eesa especially took a pounding in doggy, her head over the edge of the bed, as I thrust hard to finally achieve another cum for the day. Their chatting with each other in Bahasa did not bother me since they did show some good humor as the mood seemed to lighten more after the sex than before or during, strangely enough. But overall it turned out to be a pretty good session, all things considered. I can't see myself giving up on Travel and Classic altogether, since I plan to continue to base myself in Mangga Besar. But it will probably continue being a matter of a once-a-trip visit, for old times' sake (and the cheap sex).

Ibn Buttita
02-27-15, 02:14
The big find on my April 2014 trip was Compleks Kota Indah. A fellow mongerer on the board from back home who spent some time living in Jakarta had recommended this handful of bars off Jl Pangeran Jakayakarta to me. It's very much a local place; I've only seen a couple of bules there. That's the story for almost all the places in North Jakarta, but the other venue I visited with this kind of local flavor was Bintang Mawar on a side street just west of Loksari Plaza, but that bar held my attention only the length of a drink, as it was too dark to assess the girls (they were ok), and the price seemed high, though I forget how much I was quoted.

As for Kota Indah, first impressions are not appealing as the complex is dark and largely derelict as you enter, resembling a movie set for a battle between street gangs. Once you get to the bottom of the you-shaped alley, though, it becomes lively with brightly lit bar signs, some convenience stores and street food stalls, and people milling about. The bars all have basically the same set-up, a central bar with booths and tables around the walls, a small stage with stripper poles and dj booth, a fishbowl, with rooms upstairs on a couple of floors. While not the height of luxury and pretty small, the rooms were always quite clean with working air conditioners (sometimes too strong), and with an attached shower cubicle with hot water.

I spent a couple of days circulating at the bars at Kota Indah. I never did take a girl from the fishbowl at MTR2, and at the most local bar I saw at the kompleks (on the "arm" of the you that does not have Royal, Sari, and LA Bar), a cutie recoiled when the mamasan asked her to greet me, a bule, so I just left.

My first session at Kota Indah was at Royal, with a girl who wasn't wearing a dress like the rest of the girls, but she looked so amazing with a round ass squeezed into super tight jeans, and a tight top showing off cleavage. Susan was friendly, but the sex not very passionate as she did not kiss, but fucking this hottie was worth it.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, at Sari the mamasan plucked a tiny girl out of the fishbowl for me. (In general the mamasans and papasans at the Kota Indah bars made great selections for me. Sometimes I had to throw one back, but usually I was set up very well.) Farah from Sunda was one of the smallest girls I ever had sex with, but she had no qualms about taking my cock into her tight pussy, whether I was over her in missionary or she on top riding me cowgirl. She was a real sweetie, and on my return session I had stomach issues and so for much of the time we just lay there in each other's arms, which I enjoyed very much.

But the highlights materialized at LA Bar. I liked the look of the girls there and the mamasans and papasans were friendly. One quickly pulled a girl out of the fishbowl for me, a lithe beauty named Adele (aka Flora). Up in the room it was instant passion. We immediately embraced and kissed with intensity, and soon we were stripping off each others' clothing. There was no pre-session shower this time; I quickly pulled down her frilly white lace panties and began to lick her wet pussy with abandon, and she inhaled my dick as we switched into a 69. Adele sensually rode me in cowgirl, bending down to kiss me, as I grabbed her ass cheeks and bounced her up and down on me. The rest of the hour followed in the same vein.

I returned to L. A. Bar the next afternoon to see Adele. After one sweaty hour our desire wasn't yet extinguished, so I opted for a second. I couldn't get enough of Adele / Flora, and so I told her I wanted to see her again. When she asked where I was staying I invited her over after her shift. Alas, it was not meant to be, as she never showed up at Sparks Hotel that night. Fortunately, I had Stadium within walking distance; see more about that in my next post.

I returned two days later to try to find Adele / Flora only to learn that she was off due to the arrival of her period. But again the staff at L. A. Bar did not let me down. The mamasan selected a gem for me, a seventeen year-old who was slender but had the most perfectly round, firm, natural boobs I have ever experienced on an Asian. Belying her limited life experience, Imelda was a very skilled lover and quite friendly. I really focused on her breasts, grasping them as I pumped her doggy, or when she was in top bouncing on my dick. I was disappointed that I was unable to find her available the following day.

History repeated itself on my Jakarta trip this January, with another fantastic time at Kota Indah, specifically LA Bar. I believe that a prime mongering venue is not like a supermarket for sex; it also needs to be a fun place, with some spirit. LA Bar definitely fit the bill, with topless and sometimes partially bottomless nubile girls having fun dancing and laughing on stage, plus some entertaining local characters among the audience, a pounding beat that didn't deafen you, and a good old fashioned party atmosphere. This wasn't entirely missing from the other IK bars, but LA Bar had it the most and was my favorite. And I preferred the atmosphere there to Classic and travel and other venues as well.

The staff at LA Bar again succeeded in finding me an excellent companion. I declined the first one or two they presented, but when smiley Rosa came out of the fishbowl to greet me II knew she was the one. As we greeted each other this petite girl kind of melted into me, and I could tell right away it was a comfortable fit.

From the start Rosa's playfulness shone through. Her teasing, served up with a sexy smile, transitioned into very sensual kissing and caresses, and licks applied to my nipples and regions further south that made me tremble with pleasure. Rosa wrapped her lips around my cock with relish and skill, a scene I watched closely in the large bedside mirror. My own mouth had its own share of activity, kissing and sucking what were a surprisingly full set of boobs on such a slender girl. My tongue grew busier as I laid her back to lick her pussy, tweaking her nipples as she squired and moaned.

Having exchanged phone numbers and agreed to meet again, the next day Rosa sent me sweet but creatively-spelled text messages, and after a visit to Classic I let her know I was coming. Once I got to LA Bar Rosa greeted me with a huge smile. Our session again started with a soapy dick wash in the shower, and got only better from there. I soon knew that I would be extending beyond the first hour, and we had two hours together of delicious sex. A fantastic value at R305,000 per hour (plus a tip of 50,000 at the end).

I had told Rosa that I would return the next afternoon, my last in Jakarta, for one last encounter before heading to the airport. Irritatingly, she was about a half hour late; when I arrived and asked for Rosa the mamasan on duty called her at home to summon her. The dwindling time before I had to leave made me nervous, and so I couldn't enjoy the session like I had anticipated. This wasn't Rosa's fault in her performance, since she pulled out all the tricks up her sleeve to get me aroused and performing. Even with a disappointing last session, I still appreciated having another one of these multi-day mini-flings, as with Erna at Berlian, and especially one where the girl was so lighthearted like Rosa.

Ibn Buttita
02-27-15, 02:14
Raucous bars filled with music and value-rate ceweks are fun, but so is being pampered. So on every Jakarta trip I try to fit in a real spa, and sometimes one of the higher end venues despite the expense. In August 2013 I stuck to someplace very convenient, Oasis spa, just steps away from my hotel on Mangga Besar. The big banner advertising a special on the occasion of a recent renovation drew me in, as did the over-the-top Egyptian pharaonic sculptures on the building. This was not a plush place; the pool and sauna and other wellness areas resembled an urban YMCA. The room for the main activities was very large and pretty nice though.

I had selected my masseuse, Nuri, as she had entered the selection lounge. She was in her 30's but attractive and curvy, which made for a good body-to-body slide. The sexiness was tempered a bit however by the shower cap that covered her long, silky hair. After the massage part she put a condom on me and began to ride me cowgirl. Between that and the warm bath afterward the experience was pleasant, but not as erotic as I had hoped.

On my spring 2014 trip my stay at Sparks Hotel in Mangga Besar was partly predicated on having a sexy spa experience. I had read about their spa's theme rooms with the massage girls dressing up and role playing as nurses, schoolgirls, etc. Of course, when I inquired about this in April last year I was told that they no longer did this, and the in-room "massage" option was also problematic for some reason. Sparks Hotel was ok, mostly for its big breakfast, but without his fun factor I didn't think that much of the place (my room was either freezing or stuffy, no in-between a / see levels), and stayed at nearby Astika, my old standby, on my latest trip.

I made one spa visit last April, to Illigals, which definitely lived up to its reputation in terms of high-standard facilities, very plush. I was tired and planning a later visit to Stadium that night, so I had a massage but did not choose a girl from the lineup for sex. The selection was fine but not spectacular for the 700,000+ rate. I was offered extras or even full service by my busty masseuse, but she quoted some crazy price so I declined. Illigals' location is ideal for Mangga Besar, so I will probably check it out again next time.

Alexis was to be my big splurge on last year's trip. It had been my first Jakarta mongering experience in 2009, though the service from a local girl was underwhelming. This time, I had to check off from my bucket list the Chinese red rope / helicopter massage service I had read about. I inquired at reception as I entered and was directed to the fifth floor, where a papasan in a smart suit ushered me into a classy, modern Asian bedroom; it had minimalist elements (mattress on the floor) with a luxurious feel to it.

The lineup of girls presented for my choosing also impressed, full of young alabaster-skinned beauties. There was no way to go wrong given their good looks, but this made for a difficult choice, so I went with the one girl, who flashed me the best smile. Sofia was sexy but as I find with so many Chinese girls, there's less there once the pretty dress is off. Smaller boobs, a body that's fit but not super sexy. That theme continued for the whole experience: less than I expected. First her showering me up hit all the hygiene points but didn't have much sex appear. The standard Chinese sauna act. Cat bath, etc. - was fine but nothing on what I had gotten in Macau in the past.

And then the red rope "helicopter massage," that I had anticipated for so long as an ancient Oriental technique to bring me to ecstasy. Well, not quite. I had to remind Sofia to do it, for one thing. She started with putting a condom on me, another bad sign. It undeniably impressed me to see Sofia pull herself up on the red ropes above the bed, turn upside down, engulf my dick, and spiral around. Athletically it was a fine move, but her newness to this was clear in the erotic sense; it just wasn't very sexy. And the condom definitely did not help matters any.

The red rope act over, we moved onto sex, where Sofia was especially poor. Her movements when riding in cowgirl didn't do much for me, and in missionary she verged on the starfish. I eventually did pump out a load. Afterward as I laid back to watch some TV to take advantage of the fancy room Sofia's energy returned. She climbed astride me and began to hop up and down more to be playful in an immature way than to arouse me again. Because it was very annoying and uncomfortable, definitely not arousing.

I got her to stop and our time was soon over. After I cleaned up that is when the most eventful parts of the visit started. Sofia's performance had bothered me, and I definitely felt I had not gotten value for the very high R2,400,000 I paid upon entry. So when Sofia asked for a tip as we were about the exit the room, I brushed her off, saying something like "later, later. " Well, when I declined to sign to my credit card a tip for her when asked at reception, they asked me to wait there. Sofia came to the reception desk, hysterical that I was not tipping her. This got me furious, given that I was disappointed in the session. The papasan begged me to give anything, so I handed him R100,000 for her.

I acknowledge my fault there: I should have just tipped her as leaving instead of brushing it off; in another context with proper language skills I probably would have told her plainly that I was not happy and not tipping for that reason. I understand the loss of face for her, and should have avoided an incident. But in my opinion, at the prices they charged, anything short of exceptional service was unacceptable.

Ibn Buttita
02-27-15, 02:15
Going into my January trip I wanted to set aside some time for a spa experience, and for a while had wanted to check out Emporium. Within walking distance from Sawah Besar metro station, it was easy to get to. A bonus for the location was the good warnungs and other food vendors on Jl Pecenongan. I ended up eating twice at one place that served outstanding babi (pork) satay.

While not so large from the outside, Emporium had an ornate Victorian look that would have been appropriate for a 19th century brothel. This appearance gave way to 21st century club decor inside. The look of the 30 ish year old mamasan who greeted me also impressed me. She sat with me on a couch while I perused the selection of girls on the couches on one side of the room, of a clearly higher caliber than at Classic or Travel.

I picked a tall, slender girl named Keiko, and she took my arm to lead me to the changing room. As in a Macau sauna, the attendants took my shoes and robed me after I undressed at my locker, and after I showered Keiko emerged to escort me to the pool in the wellness area. Like I experienced at Alexis years ago on my first Jakarta trip, at Emporium your chosen girl will spend up to half an hour with you in the pool, and the couple will then proceed to the room.

Keiko took my robe and hung it up and then slipped out of her own robe, revealing her gorgeous, lithe, long body clad only in a small bikini. She sat me on a submerged bench at one end of the pool and then settled in front of me between my legs. With a cold compress she wiped down the beads of perspiration brought on by both the steamy hot water and the steamy hot babe in front of me, she leaned in to rub her delicate bikini clad breasts against my chest and massaged my cock through my shorts. I enjoyed the rest of the view too as other bikini girls entered the pool with their men. This pool program may come at the expense of a longer program in the room, but to me it's totally worth it, a true indulgence.

The pleasure did not end in the pool, however. When finished Keiko led me to a room, and as I had already showered I had the chance to lie back on the bed and watch Keiko slip out of her robe and discard her bikini and step naked into the shower, where I had a lovely view of her soaping herself through a glass wall. The optics throughout this session thrilled me. Once dried off, Keiko crawled onto the bed to administer a sensual cat-bath. She eventually brought her tongue to my dick and began a slow blow job, intensified by her feline eyes looking into mine and the sight of her body sprawled on the bed, cute ass cheeks on display.

I spent much of the rest of our session looking over at the mirrored wall across from the bed, watching Keiko's slender young body cleaved to mine. Rising over her in missionary, I approached the first penetration like I was opening a jewel box. She snapped me back to reality by sliding a condom on my dick, something I had been ready to dispense with. Keiko in turn climbed on top to ride me and then flipped her over to take her from behind. I give her credit for her skill at her profession; while not passionate (only the lightest kisses were on offer), she moved with maximum sensuality.

A couple of days later I had thoughts about heading to the Orchadz Hotel Grand Boutique Spa, where my Jakarta friend had told me they had role playing rooms on offer (something I had sought but but not found at Sparks the year before). As my schedule developed this didn't work out. It was my last full day in Jakarta and I had been at Berlian for a morning session with Erna. Afterward I headed over to Glodok Plaza to pick up some cheap pirated movie DVDs. Last year I had noticed that the mall had a hotel on the upper floors, with a spa; I wanted to see if that meant what I thought it did. The idea of having sex in an electronics mall strangely appealed to me.

At the Golden Crown Hotel spa's reception desk I was asked to sit to wait for a lineup of girls to come out, and I chose one of the six on offer, a generally cute bunch but not spectacular. I chose Tiara, who led me to the room. This was first class quality, but since there were no sauna facilities (or any I was told of), the R725,000 price tag (I tipped 100,000) was really not good value.

The session began with a regular massage, which Tiara performed well. Not very long into it, however, I asked Tiara if she would remove her masseuse uniform and massage me naked. As soon as she took it off it made any ideas of a regular massage disappear, and we began to deep kiss and grope. With her hair pulled up and out of heels Tiara (and naked) Tiara lost a bit of her glamour from the lineup, a little chubbier too. She still appealed to me though, her body, oiled up from contact with me, glistening. I have always been extremely turned on by the notion of a regular massage that morphs into sex, and in Tiara's case the passion was there, in contrast to my session at Oasis in 2013. The session was not perfect: we tried fucking in the hot tub but the water temperature was too hot and the positions we tried awkward. And the massage got me so relaxed that I spent some time dozing (though my tiredness might have been the fault of my activities the night before). I doubt I would make a return visit to Crown, with so many other options, although if DVD buying got me horny enough, maybe I would.

Ibn Buttita
02-27-15, 02:16
I've gotten to know North Jakarta pretty well over the course of several visit, I think, but had some serious gaps in my mongering record in the city. For a change on this trip I had a contact in the city, a relocated fellow monger from my regular stomping grounds. We met up the evening of my arrival, and he was happy to take me to some places I had never visited.

The first was King's Cross in Kelapa Gading, maybe 20 to 30 minutes away by taxi from my hotel in Mangga Besar (always my temporary home in Jakarta). The King's Cross location surprised me, stationed in what looked like a white collar business park with accounting offices and the like, as well as a branch of MTR club (we looked in after King's Cross but despite the schoolgirl outfits we did not stay at MTR).

King's Cross impressed me. I didn't see any nude dancing that night, but with fine facilities and a nice looking selection of girls on the couches and at tables at the margins of the seating area I had a good feeling about the place. My friend quickly had a girl by his side, but my first selection, at a nearby table, shook her head no to my bule-hood.

This worked out well, since the next girl who caught my eye, in part for the Indian look to her, agreed to come over. While we had few language skills in common, Vita was friendly and we got along well (my friend, who spoke Bahasa, helped with the communication). Between this good humor and a nice thick ass, I was sold on her, paid the R580,000 hourly charge (I tipped 100 K after), and we headed up to the room in a crowded elevator full of mongers and their girls.

I got the feeling that while friendly and playful Vita had a "professional" bent, oriented toward a good service suck and fuck, but little more. But I like to think she soon succumbed to my charms, as she really got into it as I licked her wetter and wetter pussy. Her eyes went wide as I entered her in missionary, and soon we were kissing between thrusts. With her fine ass, pumping her from behind was a joy and by the end of the hour after we came we had worked up a sweat and lay together, smiling. With other places to see I didn't get back to King's Cross again on this trip to see Vita, but wish I had.

Next it was time to break my Blok M cherry. My friend and I headed down there, about a half hour at that hour (about 1 AM) and I got the grand tour, driving by Melawi (still have never been to Maribaya massage) and then onto Jalan Felahatan. We stopped into the's Place for a drink and checked out two nude girls with hot bodies entertaining a bule in the VIP room. We were approached by three plain, thick women proposing fun in the BJ corner but the offer was declined. The main lounge was almost empty of guests, but there were a few girls rotating from table to stage to dance. They were kind of cute but dressed in shorts and t shirts that weren't very sexy. I could see how under the right conditions this place could have a very sexy and fun vibe, but not that night.

We headed over to Top Gun for a look, and then to My Place. We settled in there for a drink. My place was lively, with lots of girls dancing all over. Before this trop I had recently been on the briefest of layovers in Kuala Lumpur and made a non-mongering bar-hop downtown including a drink at the Thai club there, and let me just say that the quality of the freelancers at Blok M paled in comparison to the women offering companionship in KL.

Still, I was here for a reason, and my attention perked up when I saw a pair of slender girls in sexy dresses enter, one in red and the other in yellow. They sat down for a drink near us and I soon approached the one in yellow. Her friend in red spoke English and translated for her friend, who did not. Conversation was minimal between the language gap and the loud techno music. But with the friend to clarify everything I negotiated yellow girl for an overnight at R700,000.

My girl and I and my mongering friend left and got a taxi back to Mangga Besar and dropped him at home. Back at my hotel, my girl began to shrink, or so it seemed. With everything she took off. Her shoes, then her dress, her bra (with its boob padding), this already slight girl got smaller and smaller. I love petite women, but she was just kind of skinny, and the dim lighting at My Place plus my beer goggles had been taken in my her false eyelashes. I don't want to paint this as more than it was, but she was basically kind of plain.

I also had to guide things along and coax her into sex (she started out with the covers pulled over her and panties on), but we eventually got some kissing going and began doing the deed. It was pretty good, and Ii enjoyed her small body as she rode me. But nothing spectacular: the next morning I just let her go without a morning fuck, as I was more interested in not missing the hotel breakfast than having another pop. Which says a lot. But at least I got to add another Jakarta experience; I wonder what I'll try next time.

StudBucket
02-27-15, 02:55
To Illusionheart.

There are disco in Kota that you can pick up girls after midnight until the morning, I don't think you will like win hotel is a dump Mecure is a much better hotel you can stay at spark hotel is about 55 usd no far from Mecure meter taxi is very cheap in Jarkata most short trip is under 5 usd.

Fast eddie 48.Eddie, for the benefit of all members here, can you name some of the specific discos in Jakarta that you recommend for good looking FLs. We went to Royal Crown, and did not like the quality of girls there. X2 Club was great on Saturday for FLs in discos, but weak on Thursday night. We also peeked into Immigrant Club on Friday night, and that did not seem too crazy. So, of all the discos we tried, X2 Club seemed to have the best looking girls. Other beautiful girls were to found at Bats and CJs but these are really upscale hotel bars, not discos.

StudBucket
02-27-15, 02:57
I've gotten to know North Jakarta pretty well over the course of several visit, I think, but had some serious gaps in my mongering record in the city. For a change on this trip I had a contact in the city, a relocated fellow monger from my regular stomping grounds. We met up the evening of my arrival, and he was happy to take me to some places I had never visited.

The first was King's Cross in Kelapa Gading, maybe 20 to 30 minutes away by taxi from my hotel in Mangga Besar (always my temporary home in Jakarta). The King's Cross location surprised me, stationed in what looked like a white collar business park with accounting offices and the like, as well as a branch of MTR club (we looked in after King's Cross but despite the schoolgirl outfits we did not stay at MTR).

King's Cross impressed me. I didn't see any nude dancing that night, but with fine facilities and a nice looking selection of girls on the couches and at tables at the margins of the seating area I had a good feeling about the place. My friend quickly had a girl by his side, but my first selection, at a nearby table, shook her head no to my bule-hood.

This worked out well, since the next girl who caught my eye, in part for the Indian look to her, agreed to come over. While we had few language skills in common, Vita was friendly and we got along well (my friend, who spoke Bahasa, helped with the communication). Between this good humor and a nice thick ass, I was sold on her, paid the R580,000 hourly charge (I tipped 100 K after), and we headed up to the room in a crowded elevator full of mongers and their girls.

I got the feeling that while friendly and playful Vita had a "professional" bent, oriented toward a good service suck and fuck, but little more. But I like to think she soon succumbed to my charms, as she really got into it as I licked her wetter and wetter pussy. Her eyes went wide as I entered her in missionary, and soon we were kissing between thrusts. With her fine ass, pumping her from behind was a joy and by the end of the hour after we came we had worked up a sweat and lay together, smiling. With other places to see I didn't get back to King's Cross again on this trip to see Vita, but wish I had.

Next it was time to break my Blok M cherry. My friend and I headed down there, about a half hour at that hour (about 1 AM) and I got the grand tour, driving by Melawi (still have never been to Maribaya massage) and then onto Jalan Felahatan. We stopped into the's Place for a drink and checked out two nude girls with hot bodies entertaining a bule in the VIP room. We were approached by three plain, thick women proposing fun in the BJ corner but the offer was declined. The main lounge was almost empty of guests, but there were a few girls rotating from table to stage to dance. They were kind of cute but dressed in shorts and t shirts that weren't very sexy. I could see how under the right conditions this place could have a very sexy and fun vibe, but not that night.

We headed over to Top Gun for a look, and then to My Place. We settled in there for a drink. My place was lively, with lots of girls dancing all over. Before this trop I had recently been on the briefest of layovers in Kuala Lumpur and made a non-mongering bar-hop downtown including a drink at the Thai club there, and let me just say that the quality of the freelancers at Blok M paled in comparison to the women offering companionship in KL.

Still, I was here for a reason, and my attention perked up when I saw a pair of slender girls in sexy dresses enter, one in red and the other in yellow. They sat down for a drink near us and I soon approached the one in yellow. Her friend in red spoke English and translated for her friend, who did not. Conversation was minimal between the language gap and the loud techno music. But with the friend to clarify everything I negotiated yellow girl for an overnight at R700,000.

My girl and I and my mongering friend left and got a taxi back to Mangga Besar and dropped him at home. Back at my hotel, my girl began to shrink, or so it seemed. With everything she took off. Her shoes, then her dress, her bra (with its boob padding), this already slight girl got smaller and smaller. I love petite women, but she was just kind of skinny, and the dim lighting at My Place plus my beer goggles had been taken in my her false eyelashes. I don't want to paint this as more than it was, but she was basically kind of plain.

I also had to guide things along and coax her into sex (she started out with the covers pulled over her and panties on), but we eventually got some kissing going and began doing the deed. It was pretty good, and Ii enjoyed her small body as she rode me. But nothing spectacular: the next morning I just let her go without a morning fuck, as I was more interested in not missing the hotel breakfast than having another pop. Which says a lot. But at least I got to add another Jakarta experience; I wonder what I'll try next time.Great Field Reports Ibn, keep up the great work! I agree that Jakarta can be a gold mine, but you have to have a plan with places to go as the logistics and getting around Jakarta only allow going to several places per night.

Smoothy
02-27-15, 03:49
Eddie, for the benefit of all members here, can you name some of the specific discos in Jakarta that you recommend for good looking FLs. We went to Royal Crown, and did not like the quality of girls there. X2 Club was great on Saturday for FLs in discos, but weak on Thursday night. We also peeked into Immigrant Club on Friday night, and that did not seem too crazy. So, of all the discos we tried, X2 Club seemed to have the best looking girls. Other beautiful girls were to found at Bats and CJs but these are really upscale hotel bars, not discos.X2 has the best looking and you actually have a chance to pick the girls up there. Cloud and Sky both have very hot girls, but they are so upper class that it's very difficult to pick up anyone there (and they are bars, not discos). Immigrant has some true hotties as well, but it's not as easy to pick up girls there as it is at X2. I've had very good luck at Golden Crown. There aren't a lot of stunners, but there are so few bules that you have your pick of the litter. And the girls are freebies (I hate to say that because nothing is free in life. But they are not going to quote you a price to take them home, they do want some fun pills though). There is a disco called Collosseum that is pretty cool. I'd recommend checking it out.

Smoothy
02-27-15, 03:54
I've gotten to know North Jakarta pretty well over the course of several visit, I think, but had some serious gaps in my mongering record in the city. For a change on this trip I had a contact in the city, a relocated fellow monger from my regular stomping grounds. We met up the evening of my arrival, and he was happy to take me to some places I had never visited.

The first was King's Cross in Kelapa Gading, maybe 20 to 30 minutes away by taxi from my hotel in Mangga Besar (always my temporary home in Jakarta). The King's Cross location surprised me, stationed in what looked like a white collar business park with accounting offices and the like, as well as a branch of MTR club (we looked in after King's Cross but despite the schoolgirl outfits we did not stay at MTR).

King's Cross impressed me. I didn't see any nude dancing that night, but with fine facilities and a nice looking selection of girls on the couches and at tables at the margins of the seating area I had a good feeling about the place. My friend quickly had a girl by his side, but my first selection, at a nearby table, shook her head no to my bule-hood.

This worked out well, since the next girl who caught my eye, in part for the Indian look to her, agreed to come over. While we had few language skills in common, Vita was friendly and we got along well (my friend, who spoke Bahasa, helped with the communication). Between this good humor and a nice thick ass, I was sold on her, paid the R580,000 hourly charge (I tipped 100 K after), and we headed up to the room in a crowded elevator full of mongers and their girls.

I got the feeling that while friendly and playful Vita had a "professional" bent, oriented toward a good service suck and fuck, but little more. But I like to think she soon succumbed to my charms, as she really got into it as I licked her wetter and wetter pussy. Her eyes went wide as I entered her in missionary, and soon we were kissing between thrusts. With her fine ass, pumping her from behind was a joy and by the end of the hour after we came we had worked up a sweat and lay together, smiling. With other places to see I didn't get back to King's Cross again on this trip to see Vita, but wish I had.

Next it was time to break my Blok M cherry. My friend and I headed down there, about a half hour at that hour (about 1 AM) and I got the grand tour, driving by Melawi (still have never been to Maribaya massage) and then onto Jalan Felahatan. We stopped into the's Place for a drink and checked out two nude girls with hot bodies entertaining a bule in the VIP room. We were approached by three plain, thick women proposing fun in the BJ corner but the offer was declined. The main lounge was almost empty of guests, but there were a few girls rotating from table to stage to dance. They were kind of cute but dressed in shorts and t shirts that weren't very sexy. I could see how under the right conditions this place could have a very sexy and fun vibe, but not that night.

We headed over to Top Gun for a look, and then to My Place. We settled in there for a drink. My place was lively, with lots of girls dancing all over. Before this trop I had recently been on the briefest of layovers in Kuala Lumpur and made a non-mongering bar-hop downtown including a drink at the Thai club there, and let me just say that the quality of the freelancers at Blok M paled in comparison to the women offering companionship in KL.

Still, I was here for a reason, and my attention perked up when I saw a pair of slender girls in sexy dresses enter, one in red and the other in yellow. They sat down for a drink near us and I soon approached the one in yellow. Her friend in red spoke English and translated for her friend, who did not. Conversation was minimal between the language gap and the loud techno music. But with the friend to clarify everything I negotiated yellow girl for an overnight at R700,000.

My girl and I and my mongering friend left and got a taxi back to Mangga Besar and dropped him at home. Back at my hotel, my girl began to shrink, or so it seemed. With everything she took off. Her shoes, then her dress, her bra (with its boob padding), this already slight girl got smaller and smaller. I love petite women, but she was just kind of skinny, and the dim lighting at My Place plus my beer goggles had been taken in my her false eyelashes. I don't want to paint this as more than it was, but she was basically kind of plain.

I also had to guide things along and coax her into sex (she started out with the covers pulled over her and panties on), but we eventually got some kissing going and began doing the deed. It was pretty good, and Ii enjoyed her small body as she rode me. But nothing spectacular: the next morning I just let her go without a morning fuck, as I was more interested in not missing the hotel breakfast than having another pop. Which says a lot. But at least I got to add another Jakarta experience; I wonder what I'll try next time.Kings Cross in Kelapa Gading isn't mentioned here enough. That place Rocks! They definitely have nude (completely nude) dancers there. The place is nice, the girls are hot and the price is cheap. I think it's way better than Classic or Travel. The problem with it is it's far away from everything unless you stay in Kelapa Gading. I have actually considered getting a room at Kings Cross since it is a hotel as well and just spending my time shagging there. The place is heaven.

IllusionHeart
02-27-15, 04:06
To Illusionheart.

There are disco in Kota that you can pick up girls after midnight until the morning, I don't think you will like win hotel is a dump Mecure is a much better hotel you can stay at spark hotel is about 55 usd no far from Mecure meter taxi is very cheap in Jarkata most short trip is under 5 usd.

Fast eddie 48.Thanks Eddie, will keep mercure as my base for 5 nights. Guess lot more options in Kota comparatively.

Fast Eddie 48
02-28-15, 01:41
Thanks Eddie, will keep mercure as my base for 5 nights. Guess lot more options in Kota comparatively.To Illusionheart.

Yes Kota is the place to stay now not much going on at Blok M now days and Classic and hotel travel is just a short Taxi ride away, too bad Stadium is now closed down but there are still many disco near by Mecure go after midnight take the taxi not safe to walk at night.

Fast eddie 48.

Fast Eddie 48
02-28-15, 01:51
Kings Cross in Kelapa Gading isn't mentioned here enough. That place Rocks! They definitely have nude (completely nude) dancers there. The place is nice, the girls are hot and the price is cheap. I think it's way better than Classic or Travel. The problem with it is it's far away from everything unless you stay in Kelapa Gading. I have actually considered getting a room at Kings Cross since it is a hotel as well and just spending my time shagging there. The place is heaven.To Smoothy.

The problem with King cross is far from Kota Many taxi guy know Kelapa Gading but not King cross I have to ask 3-4 taxi guy before one guy know where it is around 6 pm with traffic it take about 45 min to get there, this place is great have a great Massage and service at the sauna, will try the disco and the night club next time.

Fast eddie 48.

IllusionHeart
02-28-15, 03:43
To Illusionheart.

Yes Kota is the place to stay now not much going on at Blok M now days and Classic and hotel travel is just a short Taxi ride away, too bad Stadium is now closed down but there are still many disco near by Mecure go after midnight take the taxi not safe to walk at night.

Fast eddie 48.Thanks Eddie for the guidance. Any recommendations for discos or clubs to go to for FLs in Kota. Also should I expect 1 mill price range for LT or does it vary significantly.

IllusionHeart
02-28-15, 10:10
I just got back from a 1 week stay in Indonesia and other cities in Asia and was in Jakarta for most of the time. The FL girls in any place in Jakarta do not bring up nor care what part of Jakarta you are staying in if you are intending to get her LT as you say you are. We pulled girls from the North and also stayed in Central Jakarta almost near the south, and this was never an issue. Just use the time in the cab to continue to chat her up and it will go fast. As Fast Eddie says, taxis are inexpensive, but make sure to use the "Blue Bird Taxi " which are the blue cabs that say the name Blue Bird on the side doors as other taxis may cost more. We stayed near Central Jakarta and it was very convenient. The Mercure is a good hotel chain, and I would not recommend switching staying in different parts of the cities as the traffic and distances were not far enough to merit this.Thanks studbucket. I have decided to book 5 nights at Mercure. I might check out Blok M, CJs, BATS on alternate nights being my first trip but don't want to stay in South due to lack of daytime action which I usually go for.

Any luck in the malls, had read posts about pick up possible in daytime from Blok M plaza mall.

Smoothy
02-28-15, 23:44
Nice rack, too, thanks. How much did you pay and where, please? Thanks.

.Sorry for the late response. I paid 350 k for an hour with her at Kings Cross (Kelapa Gading area). Yes, she has very nice big breasts, and she was a lot of fun, great personality. Her name is Lilliana. But she's not the only well endowed chick they have, I noticed quite a few well endowed girls there. They have 2 categories of girls. When you walk in, the girls on the left are 350 k, the ones on the right side of the room are 450 k. I don't see the difference between the girls on the 2 sides, but maybe it has something to do with their background. Both sides have very nice girls.

I like the place because it's more upscale than Hotel Travel or Classic as far as the clientelle and environment there (I hate the loud karaoke crap at Travel, and Classic on a Saturday night has so damn many locals who went there just to see the nude dancers due to a low cover charge that you can hardly even find a place to stand), and the girls are better looking at KC (in my opinion). It's not as nice a place as Alexis, but truthfully, I don't see the difference between the Indo girls at Alexis and the ones at Kings Cross. I think the place is owned by the same guy.

I've never had one of the girls there try to use a condom for the BJ. They also have completely nude dancers. That was the place and the night where I was mesmerized by one of the nude dancer's beautiful pussy undulating to the beat of the song they were playing. We sat right next to the stage that night. Of the 4 dancers, that one really stood out. It's still fresh in my mind over a month later. haha. If I were staying in Kota, I wouldn't be so far from there, but I stay quite far from that area so I don't go often. However, I'm seriously considering a hotel for the weekend at Kelapa Gading simply to hang out at that place all weekend.

I would recomment Lilliana, however, I would most likely not go with her again any time soon myself simply because there are so many options.

Fast Eddie 48
02-28-15, 23:48
Thanks studbucket. I have decided to book 5 nights at Mercure. I might check out Blok M, CJs, BATS on alternate nights being my first trip but don't want to stay in South due to lack of daytime action which I usually go for.

Any luck in the malls, had read posts about pick up possible in daytime from Blok M plaza mall.To Illusionheart.

There are many disco near Mecure in Kota the Golden Crown, Millie and the Colosseum disco all cater for the young local mos tof the girl here speak little English ST rate is 600 k to 1500 k all night depend on the girl, if you go to BAT and CJ girl here speak English older girl they ask for more, I also pick up girl at the mall but you need to speak some Bahasa it is a hit and miss if you are here for 5 days don't waste time just go to hotel travel and classic.

Fast eddie 48.

Smoothy
03-01-15, 00:16
Any luck in the malls, had read posts about pick up possible in daytime from Blok M plaza mall.I've probably been to Blok M Plaza 1000 times (literally) and I've never picked up a girl there. I think there is only one guy in the history of this forum who has posted that he took girls from there (Pete33). He did find a few very nice ones, but I would not recommend that as a pickup spot. Oh wait, Bulai did post once that he picked up a girl there at the cinema about 10 years ago. But that was that one crazy pelatehan chick who everyone in Jakarta has shagged at one point.

As far as malls, you can possibly pick up girls at any mall in town (or McDonald's or KFC, or wherever). Blok M Plaza is not a special pickup spot. I remember Bulai used to frequently post about his conquests picking up girls at Plaza Indonesia. There's a guy working at the American embassy who hangs out in Plaza Indonesia passing out his business cards with a 100,000 rupiah note around it asking them to call him if they would like to go to dinner some time. (I know this because the girl I was with there one time told me he just gave her that card. We then watched him give out cards to other girls as well. LOL) So any mall can be a hunting ground. Pasaraya used to have a little bar where the girls would go looking for short time action in the afternoon, but that bar closed years ago. Atrium mall is the famous mall for picking up girls looking for action. There used to be frequent posts about that mall on this forum. I haven't seen one post in years though. I stayed too far south to make it worth my while to go there. That mall was mainly frequented by Arabs looking for free lancers, but it's not limited to only Arabs. And the girls who went there are well aware that it was a pickup spot. I think I read that the police were cracking down on that at that mall, but I have no verification of that.

Has anyone hunted at Mal Atrium lately?

StudBucket
03-01-15, 05:22
Thanks studbucket. I have decided to book 5 nights at Mercure. I might check out Blok M, CJs, BATS on alternate nights being my first trip but don't want to stay in South due to lack of daytime action which I usually go for.

Any luck in the malls, had read posts about pick up possible in daytime from Blok M plaza mall.We did not really try the malls for pickup action, however we went to the largest mall in Jakarta and it seemed everyone was going about their business. Did not see single women on the prowl looking for bules (foreigners). I would think the best day time action would be at the entertainment complexes with spas in them such as Alexis Hotel, Sun City Spa, Malioboro, etc. Also, definitley do not miss Bats on Friday or Saturday night and X2 as in my opinion these places had the best looking girls. I was able to pull a beautiful young 25 year old FL out of Bats for 1 milllion rupah all night long.

Smoothy
03-01-15, 06:35
I was able to pull a beautiful young 25 year old FL out of Bats for 1 milllion rupah all night long.Any photos?

IllusionHeart
03-01-15, 06:50
To Illusionheart.

There are many disco near Mecure in Kota the Golden Crown, Millie and the Colosseum disco all cater for the young local mos tof the girl here speak little English ST rate is 600 k to 1500 k all night depend on the girl, if you go to BAT and CJ girl here speak English older girl they ask for more, I also pick up girl at the mall but you need to speak some Bahasa it is a hit and miss if you are here for 5 days don't waste time just go to hotel travel and classic.

Fast eddie 48.Thanks Eddie I have listed these places and will be keeping the prices in mind. Don't want to repeat the same mistake I did when I landed in BKK and ended up paying 4 k and 3 k to girls for LT every night.


I've probably been to Blok M Plaza 1000 times (literally) and I've never picked up a girl there. I think there is only one guy in the history of this forum who has posted that he took girls from there (Pete33). He did find a few very nice ones, but I would not recommend that as a pickup spot. Smoothy you pointed out rightly. I had read Pete33's post almost a year back and it felt so easy to pick up girls in Blok M plasa and take them to his fav WIN hotel. This had stayed in my mind hence my initial plan was to book 2 nights at WIN Hotel and explore Blok M plasa in daytime and bars at night.

However after going through the suggestions provided by all of you I have decided to stay in Kota for entire duration and stick to places with options.


We did not really try the malls for pickup action, however we went to the largest mall in Jakarta and it seemed everyone was going about their business. Did not see single women on the prowl looking for bules (foreigners). I would think the best day time action would be at the entertainment complexes with spas in them such as Alexis Hotel, Sun City Spa, Malioboro, etc. Also, definitley do not miss Bats on Friday or Saturday night and X2 as in my opinion these places had the best looking girls. I was able to pull a beautiful young 25 year old FL out of Bats for 1 milllion rupah all night long.Studbucket, unfortunately my visit is from Monday landing at 12.30 am after 8 days of pleasure in Manila (3 nights) and AC (5 nights) till Thursday when I go back to Singapore. Am surely going to miss the weekend nights in Disco but pretty confident that this will not be my only visit and is aimed to be more of recon. I have travelled to LOS 3 times since October and am scheduled to revisit in First week of April. I desperately needed a break as routine is getting pretty monotonous and I like change of scenery often. This is the main purpose of visit to Philippines and Indonesia. Enough Viet girls in Singapore hence have avoided trip to their native so far but I might visit Cambodia later in the year though.

Menteng
03-01-15, 07:39
........... but I might visit Cambodia later in the year though.It might be a good idea to contact Knight 1001 when you go there.

Smoothy
03-01-15, 08:01
It might be a good idea to contact Knight 1001 when you go there.Knight is living the dream. I'm jealous.

IllusionHeart
03-01-15, 13:56
It might be a good idea to contact Knight 1001 when you go there.Menteng, Thank you for the suggestion. Once I visit LOS again in April I would be travelling to Philippines & Indonesia in May after which I will be on a break for 2 months. Then LOS again in August. The way my current itinerary is I can not see myself visiting Cambodia before Oct / Nov this year.

I sure will try to get in touch with Knight 1001 before I land there. Experience from seniors who have spent time on ground is always welcome and not easily available.

Traveler1234
03-01-15, 15:46
Knight is living the dream. I'm jealous.So you did find him, hope you had a good time!

Member #4410
03-02-15, 00:39
She had a great ass back in 2005 and used it well to tantalize guys on the dance floor upstairs in the old Dees. She worked the 6th floor at Maribaya for a bit as well back then. Her sister also works at Dees these days as a sexy dancer, although her sister's prime was also back around 2005. Not that I'm complaining, my prime was back in 1983.Can you give us the name of this sister? Might be interesting.

Regards,

Ko.

Smoothy
03-02-15, 02:00
Can you give us the name of this sister? Might be interesting.

Regards,

Ko.I am not certain, but I think her name is Ayu. She's the one in purple with the tattoo on her leg at the right side of this photo holding the girl wearing the red.

Dorman
03-02-15, 03:10
Smoothy you pointed out rightly. I had read Pete33's post almost a year back and it felt so easy to pick up girls in Blok M plasa and take them to his fav WIN hotel. This had stayed in my mind hence my initial plan was to book 2 nights at WIN Hotel and explore Blok M plasa in daytime and bars at night.
There was something distinctly odd about Pete33's conquests at Blok M Plaza, he was asked about it twice in the forum to enlighten us as to his astonishing strike rate (he would literally walk in on a midweek afternoon and 15 minutes later he was humping some fresh kampung chick back at Wins). He made no reply and I noticed we haven't been hearing much about Blok M Plaza since.

If you hang around in the early evening there is a possibility, maybe, you might see girls who are shopping there (although it's more likely they'll be in the more down market Blok M Mall, or in the bus terminal arcade) before heading to work in Falatehan, but if you sit in Falatehan you'll meet them anyway and can enjoy a cold drink while waiting for them rather than wandering gormlessly around the mall looking like an obvious monger.

Just to confirm then and to avoid anyone else being confused, perhaps Pete33 had an astonishing ability to score chicks in Blok M Plaza, and he just is an amazing silver-tongued dashing chap who can sweep mid-afternoon shoppers off their feet, maybe, however I am inclined to believe he was getting them from somewhere else and for reasons best known to himself pretended he was picking them up in Blok M Plaza.

If Smoothy hasn't managed it and I haven't, and we've got a combined third of a century between us in stalking cewek in Blok M, then I doubt anyone else is going to do substantially better.

Dorman
03-02-15, 03:12
Hi Menteng.

IllusionHeart
03-02-15, 04:18
There was something distinctly odd about Pete33's conquests at Blok M Plaza.

If Smoothy hasn't managed it and I haven't, and we've got a combined third of a century between us in stalking cewek in Blok M, then I doubt anyone else is going to do substantially better.Dorman, rightly said. I am going to go wiith experiences of members who are still around and visit places with lot of options rather than shoot in the dark. With no bahasa capability and zero on ground experience I would only be setting myself up for disappointment.

Thank you.

Menteng
03-02-15, 06:39
Hi Menteng.Hi, lo and behold, now you've got me confused!

Menteng
03-02-15, 06:48
If Smoothy hasn't managed it and I haven't, and we've got a combined third of a century between us in stalking cewek in Blok M, then I doubt anyone else is going to do substantially better.There was a time, when you could find ceweks there. I think I've posted an FR long time ago about that girl when I was sitting near the food court on the 5th floor and the one when I was there with Obi Wan.

UsPete
03-02-15, 10:50
There was something distinctly odd about Pete33's conquests at Blok M Plaza,
If Smoothy hasn't managed it and I haven't, and we've got a combined third of a century between us in stalking cewek in Blok M, then I doubt anyone else is going to do substantially better.In the late 80's when Blok M plaza opened it was something of an oddity as it was one of the first malls where schoolkids and teenagers could hang out freely. Probably because of the bus terminal at the back (the new bus station hadn't been built). It's open plan design meant it was a great place to flirt going up and down the escalators and in the food basement. I can't remember actually picking up girls there but certainly flirting. Nobody had mobile phones though a few guys had pagers.

Faletahan had more antique shops and snooker halls than bars, by 4 pm Top Gun would be buzzing and overflowing with working girls, indeed it got so bad that the girls got barred from entering the back bar / restaurant of Top Gun so mister bule could get peace to drink his beer after work. Then suddenly in 1992 the working girls of Blok M / Melawai started to catch on to what was happening at Blok M Plaza and decided to get into some action within the Plaza. They started to wear school uniforms and frequent the plaza in the late afternoons. Obviously this began to upset the shopkeepers, as what had been built as a fairly high class mall was quickly becoming a den on iniquity.

A massive sweep and police raid was arranged with the support of TV channels. Dozens of girls were rounded up, my roommate who worked in the Matahari store nearly lost her job as a result, as she'd forgotten to carry her I'd card that day. Most Jakartans remember the incident and the Plaza did well to survive with it's reputation intact. Nostalgia moment over.

Moving onto today, I wouldn't regard the Plaza as a place to pick up girls. If a young attractive girl does approach you she is most probably trying to sell you a timeshare in Bali. Today if I was looking to pickup girls in the kavelings of the blok and was 30 years younger it would be in the basement of Blok M Square where there is an amazing collection of second hand bookshops and ripe young university girls looking for conversation.

Tambora DJ.

Smoothy
03-02-15, 11:29
Great story Pete. Thanks for Sharing. I hear there was a Tanamur reunion recently. Did you attend that? I was out of town, but I'd be curious who made it.

Lucky 7
03-02-15, 12:02
There was something distinctly odd about Pete33's conquests at Blok M Plaza, he was asked about it twice in the forum to enlighten us as to his astonishing strike rate (he would literally walk in on a midweek afternoon and 15 minutes later he was humping some fresh kampung chick back at Wins). He made no reply and I noticed we haven't been hearing much about Blok M Plaza since.

If you hang around in the early evening there is a possibility, maybe, you might see girls who are shopping there (although it's more likely they'll be in the more down market Blok M Mall, or in the bus terminal arcade) before heading to work in Falatehan, but if you sit in Falatehan you'll meet them anyway and can enjoy a cold drink while waiting for them rather than wandering gormlessly around the mall looking like an obvious monger.

Just to confirm then and to avoid anyone else being confused, perhaps Pete33 had an astonishing ability to score chicks in Blok M Plaza, and he just is an amazing silver-tongued dashing chap who can sweep mid-afternoon shoppers off their feet, maybe, however I am inclined to believe he was getting them from somewhere else and for reasons best known to himself pretended he was picking them up in Blok M Plaza.

If Smoothy hasn't managed it and I haven't, and we've got a combined third of a century between us in stalking cewek in Blok M, then I doubt anyone else is going to do substantially better.I'd agree, I was one who asked Smoothy for clarity & have visited Blok M plaza umpteen time. I had no luck on either count. The girls just aren't there. I've had some success in Blok M mall, but he was clear that he hadn't got the places mixed up & I've also been lucky more than once whiling away some time having a tactical lunch break in the small park between Blok m plaza & Blok m mall. They were not beauties but it was an experience & they weren't pro's which was a bit different for me!

Member #4410
03-02-15, 20:39
I am not certain, but I think her name is Ayu. She's the one in purple with the tattoo on her leg at the right side of this photo holding the girl wearing the red.That's Ayu allright. I had her in my room early this year, once together with Mila and once with Indi, and I wouldn't say she is way beyond her prime. Look in the Photo Gallery and judge for yourself.

Regards,

Ko.

Smoothy
03-02-15, 22:24
That's Ayu allright. I had her in my room early this year, once together with Mila and once with Indi, and I wouldn't say she is way beyond her prime. Look in the Photo Gallery and judge for yourself.

Regards,

Ko.She claims that I was the first one to ever take her home from the Blok back in the early 2000's. Yuli had been around a while, but her sister showed up one day wearing one of those cheap looking sweaters that grandmothers wear in the kampung. She wasn't dressed sexy in any way. But she seemed so innocent that I had to take her home. And my friend wanted to take Yuli, so it just made sense. She had no tattoos back then and couldn't speak any English at all. I'm not sure how innocent she was though because she was pretty good in bed. Haha. To this day, whenever I visit Dees, she always makes a point to come up to me and say Hello, but I only took her home that one time more than 10 years ago. I actually think both sisters are quite nice to chat with. I spend more time talking with Yuli simply because she's one of the wait staff and more accessible.

Sharka
03-03-15, 00:01
King's Cross impressed me. I didn't see any nude dancing that night, but with fine facilities and a nice looking selection of girls on the couches and at tables at the margins of the seating area I had a good feeling about the place. My friend quickly had a girl by his side, but my first selection, at a nearby table, shook her head no to my bule-hood.

This worked out well, since the next girl who caught my eye, in part for the Indian look to her, agreed to come over. While we had few language skills in common, Vita was friendly and we got along well (my friend, who spoke Bahasa, helped with the communication). Between this good humor and a nice thick ass, I was sold on her, paid the R580,000 hourly charge (I tipped 100 K after), and we headed up to the room in a crowded elevator full of mongers and their girls.

.Does Kings Cross have a 3 tier prices for girls? Above post said 580,000/ HR and another post had left side 350,000 and right side 450,000?

MasBule
03-03-15, 02:19
I'd agree, I was one who asked Smoothy for clarity & have visited Blok M plaza umpteen time. I had no luck on either count. The girls just aren't there. I've had some success in Blok M mall, but he was clear that he hadn't got the places mixed up & I've also been lucky more than once whiling away some time having a tactical lunch break in the small park between Blok m plaza & Blok m mall. They were not beauties but it was an experience & they weren't pro's which was a bit different for me!Just a little further info, albeit somewhat different to the rest of the thread. Last week I was with a mate in BlokM around 1 am and were feeling well rather hungry. So headed for some fast food behind BlokM Plaza.

So we headed out of Falatehan where the one-way starts, and turned left, then left again heading toward the bus station. This road had food carts, cooking up a storm for the locals and around 10 F / L's on motorbikes with their minder / pimps sitting with them or smoking in the gutter. Some of the girls looked pretty good. Young and arguably better than alot of the BlokM quality. I didn't see any old girls like some of the older species found in TopGun. Who are only their because they can speak English. This is pretty much the same as you will find in Mangga Besar or the road in front of Classic any night of the week. This is the first time I have ever noticed this scene, so I couldn't advise if it gets better or worse than I discovered that night. Now we had a few stops and chats and didn't find any english speakers, but some of the pimps were english speakers.

So crossing jl. Sissing (long name) . Street, we headed around blokM plaza to the north. Here there were lots of both young boys and girls. I didn't notice it as a FL scene, but just young kids out having a good time. But we were walking on and a food mission. If anyone has ever googled "cabe-cabean blokm" you will find some info on that area.

This street is one of the areas mentioned. And down to the park Taman Ayodya. Past KOI, where Jl Barito the bird street starts.

Smoothy
03-03-15, 04:39
Does Kings Cross have a 3 tier prices for girls? Above post said 580,000/ HR and another post had left side 350,000 and right side 450,000?I was just there a few weeks ago. I hear they do have 580 k girls there. I'm not sure how to categorize them, but the mamasan can tell you. Last time I was there I saw a girl wearing a black outfit there who was so absolutely stunning, she may have been higher priced than the others. Seemed she was constantly booked though. As soon as she would walk in from a session, the mamasan would grab her and she would head back upstairs with another customer. I would have gladly given her 580k. But the mamasan has never mentioned that price to me. All I know is the ones on the left are 350 k and the ones on the right are 450 k. The girl I posted wearing the america outfit was 350k. I always give 100 k tip as well if the service is good. The mamasan did mention that "newbie" girls are more expensive, but I told her I didn't care if they were new or not. They also call some of the girls "free lance", they cost more. Maybe those are the 580k chicks? It's just coincidence that I have picked the cheap ones to this point. I am sure I will pick one of the more expensive ones eventually. I hear they have vietnamese girls for like 1.2 to 1.6 million as well, but I haven't seen them.

Funny enough, I rarely ever can tell the difference between the really expensive priced girls and the cheap girls at any of these places. The last girl I took at Malioboro was 1.2 million, but I'm not really sure why. I couldn't tell the difference between her and the girls I used to take there a few years ago for 350k.

Smoothy
03-03-15, 04:41
Just a little further info, albeit somewhat different to the rest of the thread. Last week I was with a mate in BlokM around 1 am and were feeling well rather hungry. So headed for some fast food behind BlokM Plaza.

So we headed out of Falatehan where the one-way starts, and turned left, then left again heading toward the bus station. This road had food carts, cooking up a storm for the locals and around 10 F / L's on motorbikes with their minder / pimps sitting with them or smoking in the gutter. Some of the girls looked pretty good. Young and arguably better than alot of the BlokM quality. I didn't see any old girls like some of the older species found in TopGun. Who are only their because they can speak English. This is pretty much the same as you will find in Mangga Besar or the road in front of Classic any night of the week. This is the first time I have ever noticed this scene, so I couldn't advise if it gets better or worse than I discovered that night. Now we had a few stops and chats and didn't find any english speakers, but some of the pimps were english speakers.

So crossing jl. Sissing (long name) . Street, we headed around blokM plaza to the north. Here there were lots of both young boys and girls. I didn't notice it as a FL scene, but just young kids out having a good time. But we were walking on and a food mission. If anyone has ever googled "cabe-cabean blokm" you will find some info on that area.

This street is one of the areas mentioned. And down to the park Taman Ayodya. Past KOI, where Jl Barito the bird street starts.The taxis always like to run me by Hotel Mahakam looking for street girls if I don't find anything on the Blok. I agree that you can find better looking girls in the streets these days in that area than you can find on the blok for the most part.

Menteng
03-03-15, 05:04
Just a little further info, albeit somewhat different to the rest of the thread. Last week I was with a mate in BlokM around 1 am and were feeling well rather hungry. So headed for some fast food behind BlokM Plaza.

So we headed out of Falatehan where the one-way starts, and turned left, then left again heading toward the bus station. This road had food carts, cooking up a storm for the locals and around 10 F / L's on motorbikes with their minder / pimps sitting with them or smoking in the gutter. Some of the girls looked pretty good. Young and arguably better than alot of the BlokM quality. I didn't see any old girls like some of the older species found in TopGun. Who are only their because they can speak English. This is pretty much the same as you will find in Mangga Besar or the road in front of Classic any night of the week. This is the first time I have ever noticed this scene, so I couldn't advise if it gets better or worse than I discovered that night. Now we had a few stops and chats and didn't find any english speakers, but some of the pimps were english speakers.

So crossing jl. Sissing (long name) . Street, we headed around blokM plaza to the north. Here there were lots of both young boys and girls. I didn't notice it as a FL scene, but just young kids out having a good time. But we were walking on and a food mission. If anyone has ever googled "cabe-cabean blokm" you will find some info on that area.

This street is one of the areas mentioned. And down to the park Taman Ayodya. Past KOI, where Jl Barito the bird street starts.There was a time that, thanks to the presence of hotel Mahakam, you could pick up girls from those food stalls. Not to mention the banci's not far from there.

Smoothy
03-03-15, 05:10
Not to mention the banci's not far from there.Those damn bencong hanging out near Dharmawansa were the reason I would not want to live there. They used to stand right near the friggin taxis, so if you wanted a taxi, you had to walk right past them.

Samchad
03-03-15, 08:15
I have not been but I hear there is a new shopping mall in Kemang across from the LE Codefin hotel. Any luck at the mall or experience with the hotel?

Smoothy
03-03-15, 15:04
Has anyone tried Mawar massage at the'Best on Jalan Fatmawati?

Smoothy
03-03-15, 22:16
My favorite was Tasya.I found Tasya's 2005 My Bar calendar page for you.

Fast Eddie 48
03-03-15, 22:53
I've probably been to Blok M Plaza 1000 times (literally) and I've never picked up a girl there. I think there is only one guy in the history of this forum who has posted that he took girls from there (Pete33). He did find a few very nice ones, but I would not recommend that as a pickup spot. Oh wait, Bulai did post once that he picked up a girl there at the cinema about 10 years ago. But that was that one crazy pelatehan chick who everyone in Jakarta has shagged at one point.

As far as malls, you can possibly pick up girls at any mall in town (or McDonald's or KFC, or wherever). Blok M Plaza is not a special pickup spot. I remember Bulai used to frequently post about his conquests picking up girls at Plaza Indonesia. There's a guy working at the American embassy who hangs out in Plaza Indonesia passing out his business cards with a 100,000 rupiah note around it asking them to call him if they would like to go to dinner some time. (I know this because the girl I was with there one time told me he just gave her that card. We then watched him give out cards to other girls as well. LOL) So any mall can be a hunting ground. Pasaraya used to have a little bar where the girls would go looking for short time action in the afternoon, but that bar closed years ago. Atrium mall is the famous mall for picking up girls looking for action. There used to be frequent posts about that mall on this forum. I haven't seen one post in years though. I stayed too far south to make it worth my while to go there. That mall was mainly frequented by Arabs looking for free lancers, but it's not limited to only Arabs. And the girls who went there are well aware that it was a pickup spot. I think I read that the police were cracking down on that at that mall, but I have no verification of that.

Has anyone hunted at Mal Atrium lately?To Smoothy.

I did go to Atrium a few month ago to check thing out only see about 8 girl working the mall all 5 and below and most of them want half a million for ST. I have pick up WG there in the past for 400 k LT I also have luck at Plaza Indoneasia and Senaya in the past but not anymore.

Fast eddie 48.

StudBucket
03-04-15, 02:45
We were at Malioboro a couple of weeks ago, and it was my first time there. We were told by the male host in his broken English that the stage girls would cost 1. 5 million rupiah and that was only for a BJ. I just about passed out. The girls on the side tables, of which maybe there were a couple dozen girls of different nationalities, would go upstairs for full service for 1 million, give or take, he said, depending on which nationality, but these girls paled in looks to the bikini girls. Can someone please tell me were we misled by him or this is a fact that the girls in the colored bikinis only do BJs? If this is the case
can one successfully attempt to get their phone number and arrange something after they are off or can you tip them for full service in the rooms upstairs? Of course, I would prefer them LT? I normally would prefer an easier option, but some of these girls in Malioboro were so stunning I feel they are worth pursuing .

Menteng
03-04-15, 02:54
I found Tasya's 2005 My Bar calendar page for you.Thank you very much! I never had a chance with her because she was with that British dude at that time. So I had her sister L instead.

Smoothy
03-04-15, 03:49
We were at Malioboro a couple of weeks ago, and it was my first time there. We were told by the male host in his broken English that the stage girls would cost 1. 5 million rupiah and that was only for a BJ. I just about passed out. The girls on the side tables, of which maybe there were a couple dozen girls of different nationalities, would go upstairs for full service for 1 million, give or take, he said, depending on which nationality, but these girls paled in looks to the bikini girls. Can someone please tell me were we misled by him or this is a fact that the girls in the colored bikinis only do BJs? If this is the case
can one successfully attempt to get their phone number and arrange something after they are off or can you tip them for full service in the rooms upstairs? Of course, I would prefer them LT? I normally would prefer an easier option, but some of these girls in Malioboro were so stunning I feel they are worth pursuing .I've taken the dancers before. They have full sex, not only BJ. At least the ones I took.

Once they are in the room with you, you can get their phone number. It's not normally very easy to meet them outside Malioboro though. If they do agree to meet you, it's normally when they are on their period so they have the day off.

Cooze Hound
03-04-15, 07:02
Has anyone tried Mawar massage at the'Best on Jalan Fatmawati?Mate of mine dropped in there a few years ago now, got a pretty lazy hand job. He tried quite a few of those "suburban" parlors and more often than not got a happy ending.

Ceegee
03-04-15, 10:00
A friend of mine, not me you see, had reason to be researching the age of consent in Indonesia recently. It seems to be 16 for females and 19 for males. So does that mean that us horny old geezers can be shagging 16 year old girls, but young horny 18 year old boys cannot? Seems frustrating.

Oh, and my friend will be checking KTPs from now on to ensure full compliance with the law at all times.

Psychman
03-04-15, 11:35
I wanted to say thank you to all of you who provided me with public and private information. I spent a total of 13 days in Jakarta, and it now ranks as perhaps my favorite city in the word for hanging out and "playing" our wonderful hobby. Note, when I say city, I am not including pure "fuck dens" like pattaya and Angeles- those are places devoted to fucking, and are just different animals. I owe a trip report, and will get to it as soon as I crawl out of work madness in about a week or so.

I frequented discos in Kota- Mille's and Serra (darkest, literally, club in the universe); Travel and Malioboro, a soapy place also in Kota (will look up the name soon, but the alley down a few blocks from the Mercure), BATS and Cjs (The current band at BATS is fantastic, FYI), and met woman also through Indo Cupid in Jakarta and Bandung (both non pay for pussy). The diversity of the scene is fantastic! Long time freelancer from BATS, massage girls in the rooms (ALL hotels I stayed at had massage girls offering extras- Mercure, Millenium, and one in Bandung), Indo Cupid women who just wanted to hang and fuck, an MC at a cultural show (go dumb luck!), an extasy head from Mille's- I LOVE this place. The quality of GFE is ALMOST as good as the PI, and would be as good, I would guess, if I spoke some Bahasa. Personally, I find the women better looking then anywhere else in Asia, but that is only personal tastes. I like my women to have some hip and booob, which many, many women here have.

I also did a bunch of fun day time stuff- hanging around listening to various bands and preformances in Fatahilla Square in old Batavia (love that place when you get away from the vendors and just hang listening to music), eating Karadok there after daily power walks around through the old dutch buildings, sunrise walks (go jet lag) around Chinatown / Glodok markets, chatting up cuties in the up scale plaza Indonesia, ect ect.

So, thank you and stay tuned for a trip report from my new happy place, Jakarta.

I loved it so much, I am evening starting to do some study of Bahasa Indonesia for future trips.

So, again, for all of you who post such good information, Terima Kasih!

StudBucket
03-04-15, 18:13
I've taken the dancers before. They have full sex, not only BJ. At least the ones I took.

Once they are in the room with you, you can get their phone number. It's not normally very easy to meet them outside Malioboro though. If they do agree to meet you, it's normally when they are on their period so they have the day off.Thanks Smoothy, you definitely provide valuable information and your contributions are much appreciated. On the next trip, I will definitely have to take one of these dancers up there. I don't mind paying a slight premium as the quality of these girls is unbelievable. I have been to many mongering locations in Asia, and I thought the quality of these girls was the best I have seen.

Smoothy
03-04-15, 18:41
Make sure to ask the girl if you can "ML" (making love) in the room just to be sure it's on the cards. I've had some of the dancers tell me that they do not go upstairs and others tell me they do. I'm not sure why some say they don't go upstairs. Maybe I had bad breath? It sure as hell can't be because I'm too well endowed.

StudBucket
03-04-15, 20:50
Make sure to ask the girl if you can "ML" (making love) in the room just to be sure it's on the cards. I've had some of the dancers tell me that they do not go upstairs and others tell me they do. I'm not sure why some say they don't go upstairs. Maybe I had bad breath? It sure as hell can't be because I'm too well endowed.OMG- too funny. I will take heed of your advice.

SB.

Tommy Suharto
03-05-15, 00:23
A friend of mine, not me you see, had reason to be researching the age of consent in Indonesia recently. It seems to be 16 for females and 19 for males. So does that mean that us horny old geezers can be shagging 16 year old girls, but young horny 18 year old boys cannot?Nope. A rookie error and common misunderstanding on the age of consent.

Full legal age to have sex in Indonesia is 21. Under the age of 21, family of the minor can still start civil action against you for kidnapping.

Tommy Suharto
03-05-15, 00:59
In the late 80's when Blok M plaza opened it was something of an oddity as it was one of the first malls where schoolkids and teenagers could hang out freely. Probably because of the bus terminal at the back (the new bus station hadn't been built). It's open plan design meant it was a great place to flirt going up and down the escalators and in the food basement. I can't remember actually picking up girls there but certainly flirting. Nobody had mobile phones though a few guys had pagers.

Faletahan had more antique shops and snooker halls than bars, by 4 pm Top Gun would be buzzing and overflowing with working girls, indeed it got so bad that the girls got barred from entering the back bar / restaurant of Top Gun so mister bule could get peace to drink his beer after work. Then suddenly in 1992 the working girls of Blok M / Melawai started to catch on to what was happening at Blok M Plaza and decided to get into some action within the Plaza. They started to wear school uniforms and frequent the plaza in the late afternoons. Obviously this began to upset the shopkeepers, as what had been built as a fairly high class mall was quickly becoming a den on iniquity.

A massive sweep and police raid was arranged with the support of TV channels. Dozens of girls were rounded up, my roommate who worked in the Matahari store nearly lost her job as a result, as she'd forgotten to carry her I'd card that day. Most Jakartans remember the incident and the Plaza did well to survive with it's reputation intact. Nostalgia moment over.

Moving onto today, I wouldn't regard the Plaza as a place to pick up girls. If a young attractive girl does approach you she is most probably trying to sell you a timeshare in Bali. Today if I was looking to pickup girls in the kavelings of the blok and was 30 years younger it would be in the basement of Blok M Square where there is an amazing collection of second hand bookshops and ripe young university girls looking for conversation.

Tambora DJ.That is a great post.

I think Pete33 was pulling from the area described by Hard Hat Mate / Menteng.

That, or opposite Melawai (Maribaya) were there are some nice girls available in the early evening hours, on the corner close to the busstop. It is equidistant from WIN hotel.

On occasion, I noticed the opportunistic "nod" in Blok M plaza, but yes, not a pick-up point nowadays. Blok M mall / Blok M square (they connect underneath) might be better, but not by much. If that. The girls you meet there can be really below standard - comparatively, to the blok M bars.

Ceegee
03-05-15, 01:40
Hmmm, can you provide a reference for this? I have been searching and keep coming up with the same ages as I posted earlier. I did find newspaper articles where foreigners had been prosecuted in Indonesia, but the ages mentioned were as I previously posted.


Nope. A rookie error and common misunderstanding on the age of consent.

Full legal age to have sex in Indonesia is 21. Under the age of 21, family of the minor can still start civil action against you for kidnapping.

Tommy Suharto
03-05-15, 07:06
Hmmm, can you provide a reference for this? I have been searching and keep coming up with the same ages as I posted earlier. I did find newspaper articles where foreigners had been prosecuted in Indonesia, but the ages mentioned were as I previously posted.You'll have to work Google a little harder. The search button on this thread may work as well.

Definition of a minor according to the child welfare act (hukum perlindungan anak) and civil code - "a person who has not reached the age of 21 and has not been married".

In the eyes of Indonesian Law, having sex with a girl younger than 21, is having sex with a minor.

So for full compliance, yes, check those KTP's.

Ceegee
03-05-15, 08:05
You'll have to work Google a little harder. The search button on this thread may work as well.
Searching this thread shows that it seems to be a very poorly understood situation. People quoting 16,17, and 18 with links to various websites. You and one other guy talking about being charged with kidnapping under 21. Another guy said he was staying with a girl who was 26 and he still had a 'problem' with the police.

I'm just going to try to stuff these worms back into the can and carry on.

Golfinho
03-05-15, 11:30
Searching this thread shows that it seems to be a very poorly understood situation. People quoting 16,17, and 18 with links to various websites. I'm just going to try to stuff these worms back into the can and carry on.Before you stuff yourself back in the can along with them, have a look and see what is age of consent of whatever authority issued the passsport you are travelling with.

Offshore Swell
03-05-15, 19:18
Had a laugh with a friend who said she refuses to go there anymore after being propositioned twice, once when getting money from the ATM and once while waiting for her sister who was doing the clothes trying on thing in the shops. She said she sat down outside the shop on a bench and a gentleman sat down next to her and inquired " bayar berapa neng" "how much miss". When the penny dropped what he meant she was really pissed and called security but the security guy just laughed and explained to her the previously unknown workings of Atrium Mall to her. She said that the security will for a small fee, assist in the matchmaking by approaching the apple of your eye for you. Should you not be as brave as the aforementioned gentleman.

Smoothy
03-05-15, 20:40
Had a laugh with a friend who said she refuses to go there anymore after being propositioned twice, once when getting money from the ATM and once while waiting for her sister who was doing the clothes trying on thing in the shops. She said she sat down outside the shop on a bench and a gentleman sat down next to her and enquired " bayar berapa neng" "how much miss". When the penny dropped what he meant she was really pissed and called security but the security guy just laughed and explained to her the previously unknown workings of Atrium Mall to her. She said that the security will for a small fee, assist in the matchmaking by approaching the apple of your eye for you. Should you not be as brave as the aforementioned gentleman.So "bayar berapa neng" is how you ask. I like that. When I first arrived in town, the guy I asked told me to say "berapa memek". That one doesn't work well. Good to know security will help. He is there every day so he should be able to recommend the hottest chicks. I bet he has a few numbers in his cell phone.

Tommy Suharto
03-06-15, 01:06
You and one other guy talking about being charged with kidnapping under 21.Well, that other guy is right. Full legal age to have sex in Indonesia is 21. Period.

It is a dodgy question you have in the first place. If you get caught out, you can forget about your "age of consent" story. You are having sex with a minor. Parents give consent, minors can not.

Ceegee
03-06-15, 01:49
It is a dodgy question you have in the first place. If you get caught out, you can forget about your "age of consent" story.

I think you are making assumptions about a situation which you know nothing about.

There is nothing dodgy about making sure one understands the local laws, especially one where in this very forum there are many different answers to the same question.

Tommy Suharto
03-06-15, 03:29
There is nothing dodgy about making sure one understands the local lawsWhy am I wasting my time with an obtuse poster? I just explained the local laws to you, my friend.

Ceegee
03-06-15, 06:25
Why am I wasting my time with an obtuse poster? I just explained the local laws to you, my friend.Did I say you were wrong? No. Did I say there is a lot of confusion and misinformation out there on the issue. Yes.

Welcome to my ignore list fuckwit.

Double Shooter
03-06-15, 13:02
You'll have to work Google a little harder. The search button on this thread may work as well.The Shooter's mediocre Googling skills have come up with:

Age of Majority is 21; Age of Consent for females is 16 (sources Wikipedia, ChildSafe International, Family Online Safety Institute).

There was an informative post in 2013 by Cooldoe:


Age of consent is 18 according Hukum Perlindungan Anak, but full fledged legal age is 21.

Before 21 the parent can still sue you on behalf of the girl for kidnapping.

Unless you got caught red handed or she stay with your for couple of days, usually not a big deal in Indonesia.

If you got caught, the main concern is the parents.All a bit murky. Best to stick with the MILFs!

Smoothy
03-06-15, 16:19
Best to stick with the MILFs!Just to be safe, my new policy is to never go to bed with a lady under 60 years old. That should solve the problem.

UsPete
03-06-15, 18:02
Just to be safe, my new policy is to never go to bed with a lady under 60 years old. That should solve the problem.Afraid that can still be a problem, as you need to be married to them to have sex without repercussions under adat law.

I attended a seminar on this topic some time ago, and the concensus was you can only have sex with a girl under 21 if you are married to them. Either nikah or kawin siri will suffice. Some forms of marraige can last 6 hours I believe, which is something available in the puncak which deserves more reports on this forum.

There is an old colonial joke when a girl asks if you are married (usually pronounced marret) you should say "kawin sering nikah belum".

The other option for cegee is for "his friend" to consider having sex with Indonesia's 3rd legal defined sexuality. Not male, not female, but something in between and over 21 of course.

Smoothy
03-06-15, 18:24
Afraid that can still be a problem, as you need to be married to them to have sex without repercussions under adat law.

I attended a seminar on this topic some time ago, and the concensus was you can only have sex with a girl under 21 if you are married to them. Either nikah or kawin siri will suffice. Some forms of marraige can last 6 hours I believe, which is something available in the puncak which deserves more reports on this forum.I know some Arabs do that. Come to town for a month, marry a girl in the kampung and shag her silly for that month, then go home leaving the girl with nothing (except maybe a baby to take care of on her own for the rest of her life). I always thought it was just a scam to end up paying as little as possible for sex while in Indonesia. (I still do think that.) That seems FAR more unethical than paying the girl a fair amount of money for services rendered.

UsPete
03-06-15, 18:49
I know some Arabs do that. Come to town for a month, marry a girl in the kampung and shag her silly for that month, then go home leaving the girl with nothing (except maybe a baby to take care of on her own for the rest of her life). I always thought it was just a scam to end up paying as little as possible for sex while in Indonesia. (I still do think that.) That seems FAR more unethical than paying the girl a fair amount of money for services rendered.I agree, it seems comparatively unethical. But it does explain why you meet so many Sundanese girls in CJs of Arab origin or looks. All these girls have the same old story that their Dad died in a car crash.

Tommy Suharto
03-07-15, 00:08
Over 60 years of age. Well, if it is someone like Marion Bloem, she is 62, I would be tempted.

( Link is not working, please find attached.)

Thanks for digging that Cooldoe post up, it is how I understood it as well and agrees what UsPete is writing down below.


There was an informative post in 2013 by Cooldoe:

All a bit murky. Best to stick with the MILFs!

Smoothy
03-07-15, 00:38
Over 60 years of age. Well, if it is someone like Marion Bloem, she is 62, I would be tempted.Is she working the 6th floor at Hotel Melawai? If so, I'd like to try that out.

Menteng
03-07-15, 05:04
Is she working the 6th floor at Hotel Melawai? If so, I'd like to try that out.She's a well-known author / artist in the Netherlands and very famous in the Dutch-Indonesian community.

LifeIsABeach
03-07-15, 07:20
In the eyes of Indonesian Law, having sex with a girl younger than 21, is having sex with a minor.In Indonesia the national age of consent for heterosexual sexual activity is 19 years for males and 16 years for females. The age of consent for homosexuals is 18. In 2002, the Indonesian Government gave Aceh province the right to introduce Islamic sharia, albeit only to Muslim residents. Fifty two regions have since enacted sharia law from the Qur'an, which criminalizes homosexuality. Remember, if you are a citizen or a legal resident of USA, the USA laws carries. Depending upon what USA state you are, the legal age of consent in USA varies from 14 to 18. In California, it is 18. So, if you are from California, it does not stop you having sex with a 16 year old in Indonesia if no money is exchanged and it is consensual.

Tommy Suharto
03-07-15, 09:18
Is she working the 6th floor at Hotel Melawai? If so, I'd like to try that out.For 62, she's still pretty hot, but as Menteng correctly points out, she is a famous artist/writer in the Dutch/Indo community. I doubt she will consider a career change.

There is a small segment of women available in Jakarta that approach her class, I believe. Last year I went out with a couple of young Filipino gigolo's entertaining wealthy older girls, which was quite an eye-opener.

At LifeIsABeach. Sorry mate, that subject is completely done and dusted as far as I am concerned. I believe you may also have missed the point that it is not about the age of consent, but legal age. Please refer to the information captured by posts from Cooldoe an UsPete down below.

LA Guy 5
03-08-15, 05:17
I have changed my opinion of this place--on the 6th floor of the Melawai Hotel--based on some good recent experiences there. As background, about five years ago after hearing some people rave about it, I visited Maribaya and had a rather poor session there. And maybe a couple of years ago, I visited a couple of times, and left both times without a session given there were few girls and the ones there were not attractive.

Accordingly, I gave up on the place, at least until now.

On my most recent trip to Jakarta, I decided to give it another chance. On each of three visits, there were between maybe fifteen and twenty girls available, and while on average they weren't stellar in looks, there were a few each time that met my standards. I ended up sessioning wtih Daella (sp?) the first time, and because she was unavailable the next time I chose Dewi. I then repeated with Dewi on my third visit. All visits were during the afternoon shift.

I can recommend both Daella and Dewi. GFE and no problem getting two shots. Although the price is perhaps a bit higher than it should be--600 K rupiah plus a small tip and no complementary (in fact, rather expensive) water--I will visit again. A good alternative for me to the Kota places for on site-recreation.

Ceegee
03-09-15, 02:13
But it does explain why you meet so many Sundanese girls in CJs of Arab origin or looks. All these girls have the same old story that their Dad died in a car crash.I met a gorgeous half arab, half Indo girl through CL awhile ago. She had amazing large tits that unfortunately had been dragged downwards by child rearing. The service was not as good as it could have been, but wow was she nice to look at. She sent me some photos that I recognized as being taken inside a Mulia room, so perhaps she is a regular at CJs, I don't know. She told me her mother was still in Jakarta, but did not have anything to say when I asked about her father.

I can't remember if it was this forum or another country, but I remember somebody commenting that Arab women are some of the most beautiful in the world, but also the most covered up. Given this girls looks, I would definitely do more research given half a chance.

Ceegee
03-09-15, 02:27
All a bit murky. Best to stick with the MILFs!Indeed, rather murky, which was my point as well, although it is Indonesia so maybe we should not be surprised. I did find the post by the guy who said he still had police issues when staying with a 26 year old interesting. He didn't give many details, but he was staying at her place rather than bringing her back to a hotel so perhaps he upset the neighbors / parents. Who knows, never safe to assume.

LifeIsABeach
03-09-15, 03:17
I can't remember if it was this forum or another country, but I remember somebody commenting that Arab women are some of the most beautiful in the world, but also the most covered up. Given this girls looks, I would definitely do more research given half a chance.I have mongered in Arab countries and yes indeed, they are not only full bodied and gorgeous but sex wise, they do whatever to satisfy the men. It's the culture. Morocco is a good place to venture, a bit pricy when you add up all the costs but I just love those Arab women. To me, it is worth the price.

Hihi Ster
03-12-15, 10:42
Sometimes I've seen people asking if there is anything going on near the airport during their layover. There is a spa in the "Orchardz Hotel" about a 10/15 minute drive from the airport.

1 hour massage is 250.000 IDR, price for FS depends on your negotiating skills but should be around 2/300.000 IDR. Nothing special but its clean, close to the airport and they get the job done.

I've also heard good things about the spa at the FM7 hotel, similar price level but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet. Will give an update when I do.

Member #4537
03-12-15, 14:21
I have mongered in Arab countries and yes indeed, they are not only full bodied and gorgeous but sex wise, they do whatever to satisfy the men. It's the culture.I don't know which Arab countries you're referring to, but having mongered for years in Morocco and Egypt (I am an Egyptian), nothing beats the good old Indonesians / Thais / Filipinas for the 'to do whatever it takes to satisfy' me. Try asking an Arab cewek to give you a blowjob, multiple rounds, rimjob or a nice little massage and see her reaction (it won't work). The only thing I like about the Arab is the bodies and vocals / moans, they tend to be really loud during sex and that is a turn on.

Psychman
03-14-15, 16:11
First, thanks to all of you who answered all my stupid questions. Here is my attempt to pay back, a very small bit.

Let me lay it out. A few things first. I almost did not write this, as I am super, super busy. So, I am not going to do a lot (read, any) of editing, and it is scattered, and some of the descriptions and details are better in some sections than the other. Also, this is written with a certain audience in mind- the experienced monger but the newbie to Jakarta. I may come back and add more later, but at least I will answer questions. I know I should write about the various areas of the city and draw some distinctions for guidance, but not now.

As always, I like to start with the bottom line, my assessment: this is my favorite big city to monger in- period. Better than Lima, better than Medellin, better than Bangkok- a few of my favorites. Now, let me draw a distinction between big city mongering and places like Pattaya, Angeles or Sosua- those are places to fuck. At least for mongers. They are not cities, and the experience is very, very different. I love AC- it is my favorite place to monger, but it is a dump. A dump I love, but a dump.

Jakarta is a world class megalopolis. According to one study, it is the third largest urban area in the world with 27 million economically connected souls. It is vast. And perhaps more than any other mega city, its culture radiates throughout. When people say they can't find anything to do during the day- fault their imagination and spirit and not this great city. I can sit for hour listening to bands in Fatahillah Square. One day, there was punk band, a gamelan band, folks singers, performance artists, a clown of sorts, and tons of others performing all at the same time. I did not even touch the vast majority of the neighborhoods in my to total of ten days, and I was fascinated and enthralled.

Now, if you hate big cities with big city problems- stay the fuck away. The traffic can be mad, and you have to plan accordingly, but I had no problem doing so. Basically, I stayed in North Jakarta for half the trip and in Central the other, and build my experiences around those locations during the day. Late at night, not a big deal.

Also, if you want 24/7 pussy within a ten minute walk, 24 hours a day, and want everyone to speak English and cater to your every need- stay away. This not for you. This is adventurous mongering; but not in the sense that you have to work go get laid and have great experiences. Great experiences with amazing women are so everywhere- you just have to be open to a bit of a different vibe, and most people you will encounter outside of the big hotels will not speak English very well, if at all.

Let me get to what you really care about now- pussy, and then I will fill in some more of the details. Again, I may come back and give some more info later. Let me also say, Jakarta is one of the best places for food, street food and other, on the planet. I don't know about western food- I don't eat it at home.

Mongering venues / types.

Jakarta was an amazing place to monger! The variety of experiences or potential for experiences is immense. Freelancer bars, massage parlors that are really fuck joints, real massage parlors with plus plus (hand job, blow job, fuck), all inclusive spas (medium end and high end), a soapy or two, discos (with working girls and semi pros), street walkers, KTVs, in room massages that almost always offer more- I am sure I am missing some of the vast variety, it is off the hook. Ten days is not enough, and I missed a shit ton.

1) Ex pat hooker bars, high end. BATS, short for the Bar at the Shangri La Hotel- fucking loved that places. Spendy for drinks, so you have to nurse them, but it was a high end (ish) bar with a killer American funk band (for the next six months) and dozens and dozens of amazing women. I mean, each night I was there (three) I could have easily picked ten women. I'll talk about the women later- see one of my live stories for a description.

CJs- bar in the Gran Mulia hotel- similar, with a less wonderful band, and even a more upscale vibe.

Prices- short time $60-100, LT $80-140, depending on your negotiating skills. I went with the same girl (fucking off the hook GFE) twice. I asked her if she wanted to talk money or if she wanted to trust me- she opted for the later and got about 90 bucks- she was more than thrilled to go with me again, so that was not an issue. She was Javanese, and was wonderful. The second night she stayed until 4 pm. Dark skin, big be nearly see cup, very, very slender everywhere else with a touch of hip and ass- classic Indonesian body-perhaps my favorite body type on earth!

2) Blok M- I did not go, shame on me. Tons of expat bars on the south side of town, about 40 percent less than the bars price wise, according to what I read.

3) Travel hotel and other fuck MPs- 30 dollars for an hour. Travel hotel- the best line up I have just about ever seen. The place is a quasi massage parlor that really looks more like an old, "fancy" Cantonese style new year restaurant / entertainment center. The girls sit on coaches and you talk to them or not, pull one, and then off to fuck in a very solid, clean room. Lots of these places in North Jakarta. (see below).

4) Malioboro ALexis Hotel, and other other all encompassing men's entertainment complexes. I only went to two- Malioboro, and a lower level one. The nicest spa I have ever seen. Amazing talent. They also have karaoke, a disco, ect ect. At some of them you can get not only women, but Chinese, Uzbek, Viet, ect. Those are much more. An hour and a half fuck with an Indo chick at a very upscale place is about 80 bucks- this also includes all day at the spa- jacuzzi, sauna, ect. Drinks are not included, and non indo girls go for a lot more at some of the places. I did not spend enough time at these- they felt like they would be more fun with a wingman.

5) Kota trance discos- OMG. Jane and I, my Filipina non working girl who I flew out for my final weekend in Jakarta, went to the DARKEST club I have ever been in (as in, NO light). Siera- right near Lokasari. You literally have to sit there for about ten minute and let your eyes adjust so you don't hurt yourself. It is dank, dark, loud, amazingly crazy place with people of all ages. That is what shocked Jane, there were 16 and 60 year old there. We were the only non Indonesian, and I the only white guy.

Funny side note- everyone thought she was Indo, and when they rattled off Bahasa Indonesia to her she would become very flustered- I would then say that she was Filipaina. Everyone seemed to get a kick out of the 28 year old hottie and her 40 plus bule.

Another club- Milles' has hundreds of people, and dozens of hot girls, many not freelancers, but many would love to go home with a nice Bule (Westerner) in exchange for a bit of help, or NOT. Still, this is a place where you want to be young or young in spirit, with a bit of street smarts, or at least have been a lot of dance clubs. I have been going to this type of club for a long, long time, so fit right in. I look at lot younger than my age (I lie and say I am 35), and did not get a lot of looks. My third night (second night at the club) I took home a very, very high 20 something year old on ecstasy. Lots of passion, lots of sex, lots of incoherent Bahasa Indonesia rambling. I took her at 5 am and she left at dinner time. No money exchanged.

There are several other discos in Kota / North Jakarta that I did not go to, and would want to check out, in particular the Golden Crown.

4) Indo Cupid- Dating site- I met two women from it. A 45 year old MILF and a 27 year old in the other city I traveled to. I am going to keep those details out of the report just to make sure I don't shit where I eat- sorry to be vague.

Both cute but nothing great looking. But fucked me within two hours of meeting. Both good in bed and GFE. The 27 year old I saw twice- we bucked all night both nights. No money exchanged with either, but I did buy the younger one a pair of 30 dollar shoes at the mall. As they say, even free pussy costs.

5) In room massage- Even in the straight business hotel in my other city the massage girls would do whatever I wanted for the price. It even had a KTV with working girls. In all three of my hotels in Jakarta I got blow job happy endings from all, fucked one, and could have fucked all (but one). I had massage every day. Perhaps not as good as the best in Thailand, but very good.

6) Street walkers- Most of the one's in Lokasari Square are fucking ugly. I did find one that was very cute. The momason started off wanting 60 bucks. I laughed and started to walk- she spent three delightful hours for 30 bucks.

Lokasari, BTW, is an entertainment complex that is VERY late night and lower / lower middle class Indonesian only, for the most part.

6) Straight bars- I LOVE upscale bars in Jakarta. The women are so fuckign amazing looking, and everyone that I tried to engage was more than glad to talk to me. Mind you, don't dress like a fucking tool in trendy places here or anywhere in the world. I am not taking suit and tie, but try to dress with a bit of style so you can fit in, and spark the fantasy that you have money and might be a catch. I wore black jeans, a black slim dress shirt, black semi-dress shoes I always wear. Again, this is my style and do what you want, but if you're going to go to Lucy in the Sky and other clubs like that, you'll just look like an idiot of you're not dressed a bit hip.

On a night I knew I was going to BATS I went to several of the upscale bars and made a game of getting numbers from as many women as I could- it was fairly easy to make connections with women 20 years plus younger. I love this place.

7) I had two other freebies- one a mall pick up and the other the MC of a cultural performance- I will leave those off the trip report. That said, the point is that there is a lot of interest in Bule here if you have any game whatsoever. We have a nigh exotic factor here, and that especially holds true of you have blue or green eyes. Both were GFE. As with most here, great nipple lickers, solid kissers, average blow jobers but willing to take instruction and work on it- loved to fuck hard.

As mentioned, here are two "live" trip reports I wrote will there. Some details to give you a sense of what some of these places are like.

Hotel Travel (spa).

Picture a massive chinese restaurant from the 1920's that had live bands, say, San Francisco or New York City Chinatown. Keep the decor on the walls and ceiling. On one end, a live band is playing indonesian pop. But more relevant to the sick fucks who will read this, on the other end, sitting on 4 huge semi circle couches, are about 75 Indonesia girls who will give you a "massage" for 30 bucks. I am not sure if a massage has ever been given here; its a working girl house. Not only that, it is the working girl house with perhaps the best looking women that I have ever seen in a pay for pussy spot. At least ten were 9's, if not more. A ten is a nine with a great attitude, to me, so lets call them nines. A lot of spinners Indo style, which means very small waists with with some hip and ass, and sometimes be to see cup boobs, if not more. Amazing line up.

The drill is this; you come in and they give you a bracelet with a number on it. Everything you charge is charged to that, and with the exception of the girl, you pay at the end. My pineapple juice was two bucks and change.

The place seems to be run, or at least the floor is run, by momasons. The place was crowded, mostly Indonesia guys out on the town, listening to the music, talking to friends, or interviewing their potential one hour loves. I ask to be seated up front, and was taken to a table with with a couple of mommys on it. Immediately, they start the hard sell. I get my message across that I am chilling out, and that seems to really be just fine; its a place for hanging, but they will also try to sell you.

I find in places like this is good to see which ones are "choosing you" and then "choose from them. " This might be especially true here, as Bules are seemingly not that common (I am the only one for the hour I was sipping my juice on a Saturday night). I smile at ones looking in my direction, and most look away, with the exception of perhaps four or five. Mind you, this is from the couch I was nearest, so about 5 out of 15 seemed very friendly. The most friendly kept waving at me; mommy tells me she likes me. I tell mommy, who speaks barely passable English, that she like everyone. Mommy says, no, not true, she usually shy, no wave. My gut tells me mommy is being straight up. This is important here, as I have read that this place, while having some of the best eye candy, and especially for the price, in Jakarta, has many starfish.

Too late- someone calls her over. OMG, she is fucking off the charts sexy. Really not my body type, she is far more of a spinner than I care for, but a flawless face. Damn! Wait, she walks back to her seat. I tell mommy to bring her over, and with her red laser pointer (the place seems is like a light show of dancing red lasers) she beckons her to come to me. And now, before me, is one of the most beautiful women I have seen, and I am about to fuck her.

We sit for only five minutes- no pressure at all for ladies drinks. In fact, I try to buy her one, and her English is not understood. We go upstairs to the room through the door that says massage, up two flights of stairs, it looks like a medium and spa. The room that she escorts me into, is decant. A real bed and nice red lights- clean. The details: a nice fuck from an amazingly hot 20 year old into. GFE light- it took me a while to get her to kiss, but once she did, it was nice. Great enthusiastic ball licking, average blow job. Great little ass while doggy. I am really tired, so when I feel it coming on after about fifteen minutes, I don't hold back. Not warm and cuddly, but with tip and drink I am out the door for under 40 bucks to bang a near model quality Javanese women. Stunning.

BTW, while this is one of the most written about spas in Kota in English, there are a fuck ton of these places.

Mille's.

Not for the conservative, point and shoot, I want a place with plenty of other white faces to validate my safety. Mille's is first and second a club for middle class (ish) Jakartans from the north of the city to take extasy and dance their assess off their local version of electronica and house. Mill's crowd is mostly twenties and thirties, if you don't feel comfortable or know how to blend in with a house music electronica crowd, you may not feel comfortable. If you have never been around a bunch of people on X, you may not feel comfortable. If you want point and shoot from girls who will most certainly speak English, you will not be comfortable. If going to Calle 6 in Costa Rica once during the day is the most adventurous you ever were?: stay the fuck away.

If you like to live outside of the box, if you love (or can tolerate) house music, if you don't need to know that every girl in the places in on the program, if you like to dance, if you just like a bit of a seedy, funky, new environment, that the little surprises of mongering are what get you going; this is a place you will love.

Day two, and I am in that liminal state of not being horney from a happy ending BJ job in my room and not being able to sleep. I will just chill out, I say to myself, wait for sleep to come, start a new.

Fuck it. 2:22 and I am out the door. My hotel gets me a metered cab to Lokarasi Square- cost under two bucks with the meter. Log that fact as you will get a sense of potential costs later if you get the cabs right in the place.

Melle's. First, let me say, I love it. Down a back street in Lokasari (will talk about another time). In front of the elevator, a couple of drug dealers ask if I need anything. Ecstasy is the flavor of the day- I mess with nothing outside the US (except for strange pussy, of course).

Out the elevator and to the hotel / disco- far nicer than I would have thought. Steep cover for her $12.50, which actually is a good thing as it means you had to have SOME resources to come in.

First, the place is dark. Dark dark dark dark- if you were interested in taking someone home, you would have to really make sure to get a good look in the light before you committed to action. And, it is clear that there are many "types" of girls here; those just with friends or boyfriends to hang out, girls that might be interested in picking someone up, girls that would certainly need help, and straight up hookers. How do I know this? Call it years of mongering wisdom (so valuable, LOL) and clubbing. Also, within 15 minutes the clear hos (or at least four of them) approached me asking offering me a cigarette, to share their drink, to dance, anything to make contact.

Now, here is the rub- out of those four, non spoke any English!! Two I would rate as 6's, one a 7, and was a 2. Overall talent? Outstanding. There are a few women here that look like models. And unlike other model looking asian women, these girls were built more like very fit, thin Columbians. Thats right Latina lovers, hips and asses. Don't worry guys who like "spinners" (I. E. Girls built like 12 year old boys) there were some spinner esq girls here.

Now, to the Indonesian face, since this will is an important part of the whole picture here- I find them amazing. I mean, like anywhere else, go into a poor neighborhood and you average girl is not a hottie- but here even less so, just like the Philippines. Yet, the best looking 30 percent or so, it seems, which is a higher percentage than the Philippines, are super fucking cute.

And it is a look. More checky, more mistiso looking. Of course, there is a lot of variety here, just as with the Philippines. Those who like more classic "doll" looking women will still far prefer Thailand, but will like this over the PI.

So, Milles- I dance for about two hours. I have no interest in picking up, but I am getting some attention from what looked like several types of girls, as described above. After a couple of hours on the floor and walking around, I am about to leave and meet, of all things, A Thai girl.

Not much to say other than clearly a pro, with her game clear. Example.

"So what are you doing in Jakarta," I pretend not to know.

"Looking for you," flirts back, get this, Tiara.

A classic Thai name if there was any. I take her number, leave.

In front, Taxis try to get me to pay $8 for what should be between 1 and two bucks. Down starts, I take a stroll through the still crowded Lokasari square. Freelancers and mamasans make themselves known. Mixed bad, nothing great, most outside of my weight class, and I am just tired. A easy place to find cheap sex- I did not get prices today.

On the street, negotiate for with a taxi- just under $3. 50- it should not be that much really, as it is close, but I just got here and am playing hard ball or walking around much over a couple of bucks until I know the scene.

So, that's it for now. May the adventures continue.

Smoothy
03-14-15, 17:52
Psychman, you have balls to go to Sierra and Milles on your first trip. They aren't dangerous, but they are so dark and the people don't speak English. Kudos for being able to assimilate to that environment. Golden Crown is way nicer than either of those places and it's bigger. But for easy to pick up, down market girls, Milles is better than Golden Crown. Colosseum is the new hot spot for a "nice" big rave spot. You can find white women at Colosseum.

You paint a beautiful picture of Hotel Travel. I wish I thought the same of the place. Haha. I do agree that there are some very hot women there. But I hate the ambiance of the place (the local guys there poorly singing loud karaoke gets on my nerves), the rooms are not very nice, and although I've been there over 10 times, and I've always taken a very attractive girl, I've never had a good sexual experience there. Maybe because I can speak bahasa, I realize how truly non-charming the girls there are relative to the normal Indonesian girls. I think the mamasans really crack the whip on the girls in that place because the girls never seem happy. I always tell people that if you want to have sex with a hot young girl who just goes through the motions, that's a good place. If you want a girl who wildly screws your brains out and give you a true GFE experience, that is not a good place. I didn't see you report on Hotel Classic. Classic is a nicer version of Hotel Travel. Same type of girls and same price, but the rooms are far nicer. If you liked Travel, you will love Classic. I'd take Kings Cross at Kelapa Gading over both of them though. I think the girls have better attitudes there.

Psychman
03-15-15, 00:06
Food. Why do people travel half way around the world to eat lesser versions of the same tasteless crap they eat in the US? Nothing like seeing people eating a burger in Pattaya to make me realize how much I do not fit in with some other hobbiests, but that is a different story.

Great places to eat in the world- Jakarta is one of them. Indonesian food, and in truth, there are MANY, MANY Indonesian foods, is amazing.

Take a simple Sundanese dish, Karedok. On the street, you get get an amazing example of the version for a bit more than a buck. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karedok.

And how you get it is up to you- from an amazing array of vegetables, tofu and tempeh you point to, if you have no bahasa Indonesia like me, what you want. The woman who is making your personal plate of Karadok fresh will put your choice of toppings on a banana leaf covered with a thin bed of rice. On top of your selection will be go an unfathomably yummy peanut sauce, and if you like it, hot Chile as hot as you want. Not into hot food, just say tidak pedas and not only will you be saved anus thobbing head, but they will be impressed with your langauge.

And this just one of 100 dishes I could write about, but it was a staple of mine, as it was ubiquitous, yummmy and veggie (I have given up eating all meat put the most pink variety).

The women.

I described the body type and looks some, but how about their personalities. Charming, is a great place to start. More reserved and perhaps less goofy than Pinay (and yes, these are totally generalizations), the women are lovely, WHEN you can communicate with them. At BATS and CJs you are likely to get a good deal of English, other places, not so much. Yet, this was not a huge hinderance when in the sack. Warm and GFE, perhaps a bit more shy with affection at first than Pinay, they are far warmer by nature than the Thais.

Given that this was a mixed work and play trip, I had a chance to spend some time with many educated women as well- wow, amazing people. Smart, humble, and far more knowledeable and wordily than either Pinay or Thai chicks. But unlike Pinay, far less likely to know about American culture.

In general, they seem like a lot that are forgiving of cultural mistakes- a massive contrast to Thais. My freebies were both fairly worldly and spoke good english. My 28 year old two nighter actually lived in Spain for two years- Spanish was our main language of communication.

I am not doing them justice today, but lets just say I really, really liked the personalities of the women. Playful but less silly than Pinay, more poised perhaps, but more open and affectionate than Thai women (again, total generalizations. Please forgive me for that.

Psychman
03-15-15, 00:08
Psychman, you have balls to go to Sierra and Milles on your first trip. They aren't dangerous, but they are so dark and the people don't speak English. Kudos for being able to assimilate to that environment. Golden Crown is way nicer than either of those places and it's bigger. But for easy to pick up, down market girls, Milles is better than Golden Crown. Colosseum is the new hot spot for a "nice" big rave spot. You can find white women at Colosseum.

You paint a beautiful picture of Hotel Travel. I wish I thought the same of the place. Haha. I do agree that there are some very hot women there. But I hate the ambiance of the place (the local guys there poorly singing loud karaoke gets on my nerves), the rooms are not very nice, and although I've been there over 10 times, and I've always taken a very attractive girl, I've never had a good sexual experience there. Maybe because I can speak bahasa, I realize how truly non-charming the girls there are relative to the normal Indonesian girls. I think the mamasans really crack the whip on the girls in that place because the girls never seem happy. I always tell people that if you want to have sex with a hot young girl who just goes through the motions, that's a good place. If you want a girl who wildly screws your brains out and give you a true GFE experience, that is not a good place. I didn't see you report on Hotel Classic. Classic is a nicer version of Hotel Travel. Same type of girls and same price, but the rooms are far nicer. If you liked Travel, you will love Classic. I'd take Kings Cross at Kelapa Gading over both of them though. I think the girls have better attitudes there.Yeah, I think I lucked out at Hotel Travel with my session- the place sounds like mostly for eye candy. And yes, I need to hit Kings Cross and Classic my next trip. I KNEW I would be back, as this is my new happy place, so in some ways, felt less pressure hit every venue than I normally would (not that I was TOO sheltered, LOL).

Colloseum is on the top of my list also, as is Alexis. Ah, the variety of Old Batavia.

MasBule
03-15-15, 12:01
Great reports bro, glad you loved Mille's. My current fav late late night venue. Let us all know when your back, I'd be keen to do Colosseum with ya, and well Alexis is an old friend.


Yeah, I think I lucked out at Hotel Travel with my session- the place sounds like mostly for eye candy. And yes, I need to hit Kings Cross and Classic my next trip. I KNEW I would be back, as this is my new happy place, so in some ways, felt less pressure hit every venue than I normally would (not that I was TOO sheltered, LOL).

Colloseum is on the top of my list also, as is Alexis. Ah, the variety of Old Batavia.

Psychman
03-15-15, 22:06
Great reports bro, glad you loved Mille's. My current fav late late night venue. Let us all know when your back, I'd be keen to do Colosseum with ya, and well Alexis is an old friend.Would love that. Will be back in all probability in August; will most certainly let you know.

WildHawk
03-15-15, 22:53
First, thanks to all of you who answered all my stupid questions. Here is my attempt to pay back, a very small bit. ...

May the adventures continue.A great ISG report on a place I've been thinking about as a stopover en route to Bali. More time in Jakarta certainly will be scheduled. (Based on my Hong Kong experiences, Indos, by far are the best; high time to fish at the source.).

UsPete
03-15-15, 23:57
Food.

Take a simple Sundanese dish, Karedok. On the street, you get get an amazing example of the version for a bit more than a buck. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karedok.

Really really enjoyed your reports Psychman. But I feel I should warn any readers that asking for karedok in the west java slang community is a way of asking if you want your arse rimmed. It's traditionally a pun for pussy, my sundanese isn't good enough to explain more.

A trip to fatahillah square, batavia is reserved on my next trip, helped by your review. Did anyone explain the sexual significance of the Portuguese cannon. Si Jagur. To you?

Smoothy
03-16-15, 00:54
Yeah, I think I lucked out at Hotel Travel with my sessionI'm not so sure. Ball licking seems to have been the highlight of your experience. The girls there suck your balls trying to get you hard to put a condom on your cock as soon as possible (to avoid getting any pre-cum in their mouth). Many of them do that then put a condom on you for the actual BJ. It sounds like you had a star fish, but just accepted it as great since she was good looking. Not that there is anything wrong with that. It's nice to have sex with a young hot girl for $40 even if she doesn't get into it. Did she require a condom for the BJ and/or Sex? Looking forward to photos.

Psychman
03-16-15, 03:57
I'm not so sure. Ball licking seems to have been the highlight of your experience. The girls there suck your balls trying to get you hard to put a condom on your cock as soon as possible (to avoid getting any pre-cum in their mouth). Many of them do that then put a condom on you for the actual BJ. It sounds like you had a star fish, but just accepted it as great since she was good looking. Not that there is anything wrong with that. It's nice to have sex with a young hot girl for $40 even if she doesn't get into it. Did she require a condom for the BJ and/or Sex? Looking forward to photos.Not a starfish- just took her about ten minutes to get into DFK. Non condom for BJ. I would call her GFE light, as the DFK was very good for about 20 minutes of fucking, but then, when it was "over" it was over. Not a lot of cuddeling. But, as you said, worth the cash.

The last time I have taken a picture of any sort was 1985. It was the last time I ever will. To me, photographing life harms living in the moment, but such is a topic over a drink somewhere in Jakarta.

Oh, one question now that I have a bit of street creds, perhaps. How much do you guys tip hotel massage girls for various happy endings? HJ? BJ and the full monte?

MasBule
03-16-15, 09:12
How much do you guys tip hotel massage girls for various happy endings? HJ? BJ and the full monte?I've wondered this also.

I am sure the other guys are different to me, but I usually go for 200-300 k for tits-out HJ and a pussy feelup.

And 500 k-600 k for a covered FJ (although there are exceptions to the covered comment from time to time).

I guess these girls are on minimum wage, so tips are king for them. I am sure they would do it for less as their already in your room and its very easy money for them. But I don't like to barter and argue over $10 here or there, I give it a couple of negotiations then give up. I only ever had one that refused a HJ for 300 k.

I find they often start at 600 k for a HJ, and can be as high as 1 jt for a FJ. But their all little entrepreneurs and I'm cool with them pitching their service highly priced to start with.

I'd be interested to know what others pay and especially love to know what locals pay?

Psychman
03-16-15, 12:17
I've wondered this also.

I am sure the other guys are different to me, but I usually go for 200-300 k for tits-out HJ and a pussy feelup.

And 500 k-600 k for a covered FJ (although there are exceptions to the covered comment from time to time).

I guess these girls are on minimum wage, so tips are king for them. I am sure they would do it for less as their already in your room and its very easy money for them. But I don't like to barter and argue over $10 here or there, I give it a couple of negotiations then give up. I only ever had one that refused a HJ for 300 k.

I find they often start at 600 k for a HJ, and can be as high as 1 jt for a FJ. But their all little entrepreneurs and I'm cool with them pitching their service highly priced to start with.

I'd be interested to know what others pay and especially love to know what locals pay?Thanks for responding- great info, and really inline with what I was paying.

Usually, it was 200 for an HJ and 300-400 for a BJ, once 500 for full fucking. The last couple of times I told them that I pay 200 for an HJ and 300 for a BJ, and they could choose. One HJ and one BJ.

I agree with not haggling over small amounts, but it would be cool to know what others have paid (if less) so I could use that that info. I find that the attitude I have is SOO key in the negotiating process. If I am playful, and feign to be offended (and make this obvious), and am light and joking WHILE setting limits, it makes all the difference in the world. When I am uptight about the price, regardless of my limits and bounderies, it does not feel as good, and the end cost is not much different.

Member #4537
03-16-15, 16:04
Oh, one question now that I have a bit of street creds, perhaps. How much do you guys tip hotel massage girls for various happy endings? HJ? BJ and the full monte?If I get what I really want, which is BBBJ, DFK, rimming and BBFS, I tip 150 or even 200. Works well most of the time.

Smoothy
03-16-15, 20:06
As far as the "extra" price for sex at a place that gives an actual massage, you guys are giving them the same money as I give them. I frequent the local indonesian sex chat sites and they are paying the same. The price of the actual massage, then plus 400 to 600 k for full sex.

I do find though that if I call the outcall girls to come to my place who provide the "male vitality" massage, 2 hours for 200 k (250 k if you are in a hotel because they have to give the security guy 50 k), they want a bit more for full sex than the in house hotel massage girls want. Then again, they are usually better looking too since the service makes sure the girls are sexy. The hottest massage girl I ever had was from one of those services. Sometimes those girls won't settle for less than 800 k to a million for full sex. Their massages are far better than the ones you get from the hotel masseuse though. They focus on your ass and balls most of the oil massage. I really feel vitalized after those massages. I always make the guy who runs the male vitality massage service send me a photo of the girl via whatsapp before I agree to have her come to my apartment or hotel. I prefer that to using the masseuse from the hotel.

Altered Ego
03-16-15, 20:43
Having booked my first trip to Jakarta, and having read back through the forum at least 20 pages (and also looked at the hotels thread), I have a few of questions which I am hoping knowlegeable members might be kind enough to help me with.

1. I am thinking of staying at the Oakwood Premier Cozmo which has good reviews on a well-known review site. I am assuming this place is a good choice and is girl-friendly, but if anyone has any information to the contrary I would be grateful to know now rather than later. Also if anybody thinks the location of this place is all wrong, I would be very interested to know. I appreciate there are major problems with traffic in Jakarta, but since this is a vacation-only visit, I probably won't be doing much in the daytime anyway. I will just be going out later in the evening. I am not really a clubbing type (too old), so I am assuming I will mainly be going to BATS, CJs, Blok M, etc from about 9 pm onwards. I also appreciate that some of the spas / MPs (for example Travel, Alexis) are quite a long way from the Oakwood, so if anybody can recommend any good spas / MPs which are more central that would be great.

2. Question regarding transport: do members tend to use the motorcycle taxis, or are they not really recommended? I have used them in Bangkok and they saved a lot of time, but obviously they aren't ideal if it is raining, and there is of course a risk of serious injury!!

3. Thirdly, are there any recommended sports bars which show English Premier League?

4. I quite like places where you can play pool (or billiards as it is called in some countries in Asia) in the kind of atmosphere you get in Pattaya beer bars (I. E. With girls around the place as well). Does anybody know if there any bars of this type in Jakarta, and if so are there any you would recommend?

5. Another question. I have a penchant for students, ideally ones who speak some English (but then, who doesn't? Any additional information about how and where I might meet student types would be much appreciated.

6. Another fairly obvious question. What time does the nightlife finish (for example when is closing time in BATS, Blok M bars, etc)?

7. Final question. If you had 10 days to play with, would you spend it all in Jakarta, or would you take a side trip somewhere? If so, where to, and for how long? What do you think might be the likelihood that I would be able to find a girl who would be prepared to accompany me on a side trip?

Many thanks in advance, and if anybody would like to meet up for a beer, please don't hesitate to PM me. I will be in town from 4th April.

LA Guy 5
03-16-15, 23:59
Having booked my first trip to Jakarta, and having read back through the forum at least 20 pages (and also looked at the hotels thread), I have a few of questions which I am hoping knowlegeable members might be kind enough to help me with.

1. I am thinking of staying at the Oakwood Premier Cozmo which has good reviews on a well-known review site. I am assuming this place is a good choice and is girl-friendly, but if anyone has any information to the contrary I would be grateful to know now rather than later. Also if anybody thinks the location of this place is all wrong, I would be very interested to know. I appreciate there are major problems with traffic in Jakarta, but since this is a vacation-only visit, I probably won't be doing much in the daytime anyway. I will just be going out later in the evening. I am not really a clubbing type (too old), so I am assuming I will mainly be going to BATS, CJs, Blok M, etc from about 9 pm onwards. I also appreciate that some of the spas / MPs (for example Travel, Alexis) are quite a long way from the Oakwood, so if anybody can recommend any good spas / MPs which are more central that would be great.

2. Question regarding transport: do members tend to use the motorcycle taxis, or are they not really recommended? I have used them in Bangkok and they saved a lot of time, but obviously they aren't ideal if it is raining, and there is of course a risk of serious injury!!

3. Thirdly, are there any recommended sports bars which show English Premier League?

4. I quite like places where you can play pool (or billiards as it is called in some countries in Asia) in the kind of atmosphere you get in Pattaya beer bars (I. E. With girls around the place as well). Does anybody know if there any bars of this type in Jakarta, and if so are there any you would recommend?

5. Another question. I have a penchant for students, ideally ones who speak some English (but then, who doesn't? Any additional information about how and where I might meet student types would be much appreciated.

6. Another fairly obvious question. What time does the nightlife finish (for example when is closing time in BATS, Blok M bars, etc)?

7. Final question. If you had 10 days to play with, would you spend it all in Jakarta, or would you take a side trip somewhere? If so, where to, and for how long? What do you think might be the likelihood that I would be able to find a girl who would be prepared to accompany me on a side trip?

Many thanks in advance, and if anybody would like to meet up for a beer, please don't hesitate to PM me. I will be in town from 4th April.I believe the Oakwood is in the same area as the Marriott. If so, the location may not be ideal from the standpoint of access to Block M, Kota, BATS, and so forth. Also, the traffic around there can get absolutely horrendous, although I have heard unconfirmed reports the elevated highway in that area that had been under construction for too long recently opened, which might relieve some of the traffic problem. However, my comments on the location should be viewed merely as a heads up to a potential problem as I have never actually routed from there, and perhaps it is not as bad as I am thinking. Others here should be able to clarify this.

I do not use motorcycle taxis as I consider them too dangerous, particularly after seeing a couple of motorcycle accidents in Jakarta. It also seems they are for short hauls within local areas. I don't think they would be an appropriate mode of transportation from Oakwood to some of the above mentioned areas, for example. But I haven't used them so am no expert.

There may be a pool table or two at some of the Blok M bars. Maybe at Top Gun, but my memory on this is not clear. I also have been at a pool joint right next to Sarinah (a shopping mall relatively close to the Grand Hyatt) but was not sure if the gals there were working or not (I suspect a few might have been). In any case, it was more a pool place than a P4 P place.

It is difficult without knowing something about you whether you should stay in Jakarta for 10 days. If you do stay, it would be for the girls; there is not much else of note there, at least not in comparison to places like Bangkok, for example. If you are interested in seeing sights and are not entirely focused on mongering, Yogyakarta might be the place to go to see Borobudur and Prambanan (you would need two days to see both); but the P4 P scene there does not compare to Jakarta's.

As to your other questions, perhaps others can answer them.

Smoothy
03-17-15, 02:41
1. I am thinking of staying at the Oakwood Premier Cozmo which has good reviews on a well-known review site. I am assuming this place is a good choice and is girl-friendly, but if anyone has any information to the contrary I would be grateful to know now rather than later. Also if anybody thinks the location of this place is all wrong, I would be very interested to know. I appreciate there are major problems with traffic in Jakarta, but since this is a vacation-only visit, I probably won't be doing much in the daytime anyway. I will just be going out later in the evening. I am not really a clubbing type (too old), so I am assuming I will mainly be going to BATS, CJs, Blok M, etc from about 9 pm onwards. I also appreciate that some of the spas / MPs (for example Travel, Alexis) are quite a long way from the Oakwood, so if anybody can recommend any good spas / MPs which are more central that would be great.

Oakwood is nice. You can bring girls there. There are very few places you cannot bring girls. Right downstairs is perhaps the most popular trendy restaurant in town called Loewy. It is possible to pick up party girls there at the bar, but they are high maintenance. Nice place to go for a drink or dinner though because plenty of hot women (not easy to pick them up, but nice to look at.).

Fortune massage is a place where you can get a good massage, then have sex with the girl afterwards for an extra price you have to negotiate (usually 500k extra). It's just down the road from the Oakwood, about a 5 minute drive. Taxi's never seem to know it though so you need to get the concierge to help. Ask the taxi to take the main road that is across the street from Mal Ambassador (Jalan Prof Dr. Satrio) (jalan means street), have it drive toward the new Lotte mall and Sampoerna strategic building, pass those (they will be on the left), go over the bridge, and just over the bridge to the left is Fortune massage and karaoke. It's a fairly large building. (as a landmark, Hotel Le Meridien is on the right) Most times, I just tell the taxi to take me to Hotel Le Meridien. They will go that direction and when they cross the bridge, I tell them to stop on the left and take me to Fortune massage instead.

Delta massage is also very close to Oakwood and you can get there quickly via taxi as well. You tell the taxi to take Jalan Denpasar. At the end of Jalan denpasar, most cars turn right, you want to turn left and Delta is right there. If you get the hot stone massage, that includes a happy ending hand job as part of the service. No full sex though.

2. Question regarding transport: do members tend to use the motorcycle taxis, or are they not really recommended? I have used them in Bangkok and they saved a lot of time, but obviously they aren't ideal if it is raining, and there is of course a risk of serious injury!!

I avoid motorcycle taxis in Jakarta. But they are all over the place if you want to use one. They are called OJEK in Jakarta. At Oakwood, there will be a cue of bluebird taxis waiting and there are also ojek's quite near. I haven't taken an ojek in over 10 years though since one of them wrecked once when I was on it. Unlike Thailand, it is rare to ever see a westerner riding the back of one of those motorcyle's. I'd recommend sticking with taxis.

3. Thirdly, are there any recommended sports bars which show English Premier League?

Within walking distance of Oakwood is a shopping center called Bellagio. There is a sports bar there. If they don't have the game (they likely will), you can take a taxi to Aphrodite just behind Plaza Festival and they will have it for sure. I prefer the one in Bellagio because you can chat up the waitresses easier.

4. I quite like places where you can play pool (or billiards as it is called in some countries in Asia) in the kind of atmosphere you get in Pattaya beer bars (I. E. With girls around the place as well). Does anybody know if there any bars of this type in Jakarta, and if so are there any you would recommend?

Closest thing to a pattaya beer bar is Top Gun or My Bar at blok M. But you can't find girls there until after 10 pm. There is a popular pool place at Sarinah mall called After Hours right next to the Chilis restaurant. That can be fun at times depending on who is in there. But it's nowhere near as sleazy as a pattaya beer bar. I play pool in the Hotel Classic 2nd floor sometimes. That's a brothel, but they have nice pool tables. You can check out the girls as you play. The sports bars previously mentioned also have pool tables.

5. Another question. I have a penchant for students, ideally ones who speak some English (but then, who doesn't? Any additional information about how and where I might meet student types would be much appreciated.

It's possible to find students you can pick up that do not speak English, very difficult to find them that do speak English. If they speak English, they are likely from an upper class family so they have money and won't be interested in screwing an older foreigner. I wouldn't even know where to go to find a student that can speak English who would give me the time of day.

6. Another fairly obvious question. What time does the nightlife finish (for example when is closing time in BATS, Blok M bars, etc)?

Bats and CJs between 2 am and 3 am depending on the night of the week. Blok M, Top Gun closes at 3 am, My Bar closes at 5 am.

A bar very close to your hotel is the one in the JW Marriott. Sometimes there are some pretty decent girls there, depending on the night of the week. I wouldn't go there after midnight though. The crowd gets there a bit earlier and I believe it closes at midnight.

7. Final question. If you had 10 days to play with, would you spend it all in Jakarta, or would you take a side trip somewhere? If so, where to, and for how long? What do you think might be the likelihood that I would be able to find a girl who would be prepared to accompany me on a side trip?

If you find a girl you fancy, you could ask her to Bali with you and she would likely be quite happy to do that. You will of course have to pay her airfare and other expenses and the girl may or may not want money for her time there with you, depending on which girl you take. A 3 day trip there is usually a nice change from Jakarta.

MasBule
03-17-15, 03:09
Good to see you have done your RTFF, ,why comments.

1. Oakwood isn't in the action. 30 min taxi ride to CJ's, BATS and a little further to blokM. A decent distance to North Jakarta. Its a very nice place with an awesome bar / resto downstairs called Loewey (look it up on 100 bars website) . If you lineup any girls from DateInAsia etc, you can definately meet them there, it also has a good degree of very classy non hookers and classy freelancers, I am sure with a keen eye you can spot them. Not alot of spas near there that I know of, there is a Fortune behind LeMerdien not too far (on the elevated Toll Smoothy mentioned) , also some massage spas in the BlokM area in the Grand Wijaya centre (Delta, MyPlace, Fortune, Cherry) - but its not that close, maybe 30 mins at 9 pm or 1 HR at peak hour.

2. I recommend taxis, they are cheap and clean. Opt for the white express or blue bluebird. If the traffic is really bad and it isn't raining, look for a sign saying Ojek or Ojeg, or somebody saying 'ojek mister'. Price is no cheaper than taxis, but far quicker, up to you to do your own risk assessment (FYI, I suggest 20 k for 10-15 mins, 40 k for 20-30 mins riding), I am ok with them personally but for long trips it is tiring on the back.

3. Near Oakwood is Cazbar, stumbling distance. Aphrodite, a short Ojek ride (look them both up on 100 bars Jakarta website). Show all EPL games, especially Aphrodite (you'll find discreet p4 p there too).

4. None like Pattaya. Top Gun in BlokM has 1 table and old ugly female sharks playing, plus DS place has a pooltable, and Everest does in Blokm. Including Smoothys comment below about Sarinah (where you should be able to find a student. If you time it right), you can also try Jalan Jaksa, there are a few bars that are open air, cheap beer, seedy But nothing like Pattaya. I don't know of much else, pooltables arent my scene.

5. Bundung, Jogjakarta. Both university towns. Remember most of the local girls in Jakarta are used to seeing old white guys, so if you want to spend time with students got to go somewhere where you are still a bit unique. IMHO. Bundung rates in that area for me, but your here for a short holiday and it might be more difficult.

6. 3 am BATS and CJs, BlokM bars, occasionally later at the Blok (especially myBar). North Jakarta 3 am and 5 am and all day (the more drugs their clientèLE takes, the later they stay open) - depends on the venue. Most massage parlours often close at 11 pm, or might have last booking 10 pm.

7. the only side trip I would do is Bali. Unless you really want to see orangutangs, and yes many girls would be happy to accpmany you to Bali, good call here in my opinion. But you might have to do some groundwork before you arrive in country for this.


Having booked my first trip to Jakarta, and having read back through the forum at least 20 pages (and also looked at the hotels thread), I have a few of questions which I am hoping knowlegeable members might be kind enough to help me with.

1. I am thinking of staying at the Oakwood Premier Cozmo which has good reviews on a well-known review site. I am assuming this place is a good choice and is girl-friendly, but if anyone has any information to the contrary I would be grateful to know now rather than later. Also if anybody thinks the location of this place is all wrong, I would be very interested to know. I appreciate there are major problems with traffic in Jakarta, but since this is a vacation-only visit, I probably won't be doing much in the daytime anyway. I will just be going out later in the evening. I am not really a clubbing type (too old), so I am assuming I will mainly be going to BATS, CJs, Blok M, etc from about 9 pm onwards. I also appreciate that some of the spas / MPs (for example Travel, Alexis) are quite a long way from the Oakwood, so if anybody can recommend any good spas / MPs which are more central that would be great.

2. Question regarding transport: do members tend to use the motorcycle taxis, or are they not really recommended? I have used them in Bangkok and they saved a lot of time, but obviously they aren't ideal if it is raining, and there is of course a risk of serious injury!!

3. Thirdly, are there any recommended sports bars which show English Premier League?

4. I quite like places where you can play pool (or billiards as it is called in some countries in Asia) in the kind of atmosphere you get in Pattaya beer bars (I. E. With girls around the place as well). Does anybody know if there any bars of this type in Jakarta, and if so are there any you would recommend?

5. Another question. I have a penchant for students, ideally ones who speak some English (but then, who doesn't? Any additional information about how and where I might meet student types would be much appreciated.

6. Another fairly obvious question. What time does the nightlife finish (for example when is closing time in BATS, Blok M bars, etc)?

7. Final question. If you had 10 days to play with, would you spend it all in Jakarta, or would you take a side trip somewhere? If so, where to, and for how long? What do you think might be the likelihood that I would be able to find a girl who would be prepared to accompany me on a side trip?

Many thanks in advance, and if anybody would like to meet up for a beer, please don't hesitate to PM me. I will be in town from 4th April.

Smoothy
03-17-15, 03:41
1. Oakwood isn't in the action. 30 min taxi ride to CJ's, BATS and a little further to blokM.I normally stay at JW Marriott right across the street from Oakwood. CJs or Blok M will be about 30 minutes at night, but BATS is only 10 to 15 minutes. It's extremely close. Take that same road mentioned to go to Fortune massage that passes LE Meridien and just keep going straight rather than stopping at Fortune massage. When you get to the light, take a right and Shangri-La is right there. There's another route via Rasuna Said that's even faster but more difficult to explain. North Jakarta will take an hour depending on where in North Jakarta you would like to go and time of day. Personally, I like staying in that area where the Oakwood is located. I consider that to be central Jakarta. If you are planning on only hitting the brothels in North Jakarta, Mercure at Harmoni is a much better selection. But for hitting places like BATs, CJs and Blok M, I think it's fine. Especially BATS. Don't try going anywhere at 5 pm though. But nowhere in the city is good traffic at 5 pm. You can walk to Mal Ambassador or Lotte Mall from Oakwood. Ambassador has pirate DVDs and software and cheap items. It also has a Carrefour in it and another mall next door with restaurants such as Outback Steakhouse. Lotte Mall has some very nice restaurants. Belaggio also has restaurants and that sports bar. Cazbar is also a popular expat bar within walking distance. The Sunday brunch at JW Marriott is awesome. Loewy is the most popular restaurant in town for hot chicks in sexy dresses. All of those are within short walking distance. Unless you want to go to the brothels in North Jakarta, what's not to like?

Very good point on being able to pick up students at After Hours. That is one place where there is a chance. I've never picked one up there, but there are often very hot students there and they are often drunk.

Hilo is the board expert on picking up students. But I think he gets his in the kampung.

MasBule
03-17-15, 04:39
why comments...Damn spell check, 'why comments' = 'my comments'.

Sharka
03-17-15, 05:25
General questions on ATM cash withdraws in Jakarta.

1) What is the maximum you can take out from ATM at one time?

2) Which Banks ATM are best, meaning having the most around and most reliable.

3) Are all Jakarta bank ATM fees the same or are some better than others.

4) is there a max number of time you can withdraw from ATM in a day?

5) are all ATM limits the same or do they vary by individual Jakarta banks?

Thanks.

Note, I plan on staying in North Jakarta , around the Travel Hotel area

MasBule
03-17-15, 07:40
General questions on ATM cash withdraws in Jakarta.1) What is the maximum you can take out from ATM at one time?

8 million to 10 million rupiah.

2) Which Banks ATM are best, meaning having the most around and most reliable.

All bank ATMS are safe, the biggest problems are generally the smaller unknown brands you may find in a mini-mart, I wouldn't trust them unless in a jam.

3) Are all Jakarta bank ATM fees the same or are some better than others.

I think the only difference is. If its your bank then no fees, if it is another banks the fee is between 3,500 and 7,500, I have found most hit me with 7,500.

4) is there a max number of time you can withdraw from ATM in a day?

Don't know, but if you use the above 8 million, then that's 4 withdrawls.

Most ATMS dispense max 1. 25 m in 50,000 notes or max 2. 5 m in 100,000 notes. 8 million in your pocket is a big old wad of cash. Put it down your pants if you goto a dodgy nightclub and youll get lots of attention.

5) are all ATM limits the same or do they vary by individual Jakarta banks?

Sama, all are english as the first option. Look for 'tunai', 'non-tunai is for transfers / payments only. Not cash dispensing.

Hilo77
03-18-15, 03:23
Hilo is the board expert on picking up students. But I think he gets his in the kampung.The "students" I used to pick up were usually the result of my number doing the rounds among a certain self-selecting group. Hey, no complaints, it cut right to the chase and saved a lot of LEG (laying essential groundwork) work.

The student (a post-grad whose thesis I am assisting, yeah right) I am currently seeing, I met on a now defunct dating site a few years back.

However the way to pick up students is the same way to pick up any "regular" girls in the malls. It just involves chutzpah, a bit of Bahasa (as Smoothy points out the fluent English-speakers, like the girls on the dating sites that post pictures of their travels overseas, probably don't need any financial help) and not looking like a creep.

The SOP is dress and groom yourself like you actually have a job to go to, smile, greet, get chatting, ask them questions about where such and such a place is, yadda yadda, get friendly, exchange numbers, sms / whatsapp about studies, the universe, the meaning of life, whatever.

Arrange to meet again over coffee, ask about family, boyfriends, how they can afford tuition fees, books, transport (ecstasy tabs), listen to the usual woes about how the boyfriend's an asshole and how they have no money.

If you've got that far you don't need me to explain the rest.

Ceegee
03-18-15, 04:29
The "dating" scene is changing too. Things are moving mobile, as in mobile phones. For me (not saying this applies to everybody) pick up p4 p joints like blok M / BATS / CJs gave way to dating websites and instant messengers like yahoo / msn. Very easy to find girls that will meet me at my hotel when I get off the airplane or finish up the meetings for the day. I can rarely be bothered going to the blok / BATS / CJs anymore unless I am out with mates for a night on the town. When I just want my knob sucked or my ass licked after work, why fight the traffic when the girls will come to you.

Recently I have started playing with apps such as badoo / wechat / skout / tinder etc (many have been mentioned here before) and I noticed a lot of the student age girls are there. I put up a profile which makes my intentions very clear. I say I am already married, but am looking for a short term girlfriend and am happy to help with tuition / transport whatever. I receive more messages / interest than I can manage and get right to the point with the ones I do communicate with. That way everybody knows the drill and there are no false expectations.

I always treat the girls well, and am often rewarded with the girls setting me up with their friends, as Hilo mentioned.

I don't post a lot of reports here anymore even though I have been visiting more and more, because I pretty much follow the same script every trip. Arrange for girl X to meet me at my hotel when I get off the airplane, shag her, if I like her and I am hungry bring her to dinner, shag her again. The next day girl Y arrives promptly (for jakarta!) after I finish my business meetings, shag her, and if I am feeling energetic I make up an excuse as to why she needs to leave and call in girl Z. Although I have had some luck with 2 girls at the same time recently, which came through the friend of a friend thing, except the friends both claim to be bisexual and really do seem to enjoy eating each others pussies.

Member #4716
03-18-15, 06:46
The "dating" scene is changing too. Things are moving mobile, as in mobile phones. For me (not saying this applies to everybody) pick up p4 p joints like blok M / BATS / CJs gave way to dating websites and instant messengers like yahoo / msn. Very easy to find girls that will meet me at my hotel when I get off the airplane or finish up the meetings for the day. I can rarely be bothered going to the blok / BATS / CJs anymore unless I am out with mates for a night on the town. When I just want my knob sucked or my ass licked after work, why fight the traffic when the girls will come to you.

Recently I have started playing with apps such as badoo / wechat / skout / tinder etc (many have been mentioned here before) and I noticed a lot of the student age girls are there. I put up a profile which makes my intentions very clear. I say I am already married, but am looking for a short term girlfriend and am happy to help with tuition / transport whatever. I receive more messages / interest than I can manage and get right to the point with the ones I do communicate with. That way everybody knows the drill and there are no false expectations.

I always treat the girls well, and am often rewarded with the girls setting me up with their friends, as Hilo mentioned..How much do you pay them for how long of time?

Cepu19
03-18-15, 12:17
I have found these pictures on the net posted in 2013. The story is the usual all prostitutes are children. Scandal, scandal, scandal. But the photo series purporting to be from Jakarta is interesting.

I have tried to find clues at to where in Jakarta the photos were taken and whether the place still exist.

Anyone here with any information?

Possessed Seoul
03-18-15, 23:56
It could be Bongkaran, which is in Tanah Abang, along the railway line.

http://m.thejakartapost.com/news/2011/04/17/jakarta-inundated-with-proliferating-ills.html

It's not uncommon for prostitution to take place around railway stations and lines in Indonesia. If you walk along the flood canal along Jl Latuharhari on the southern fringes of Menteng, you'll notice a bunch of blue tarpaulin shacks that are used for short-time encounters of a night. The area spills over from the ladyboy areas on the other side of the bridge and from Jl Cimahi eastwards, its mostly women. Its very low end, catering mostly to local workers and I have been told that sex is sold for as little as Rp 50,000. I have sat at one of the open air warungs by the train line and had a beer, watching the comings and goings and was assured by the people working there that is was safe. I'm quite big, speak more than enough Bahasa Indonesian and am fairly street wise, but would hesitate to go to Bongkaran. If you do go, have a local friend go with you at the very least. Thibaud from Jakarta 100 bars has done a review of the Kalijodo brothel area in West Jakarta. Its another local place, and again, one that I do not care to visit.


I have found these pictures on the net posted in 2013. The story is the usual all prostitutes are children. Scandal, scandal, scandal. But the photo series purporting to be from Jakarta is interesting.

I have tried to find clues at to where in Jakarta the photos were taken and whether the place still exist.

Anyone here with any information?