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I will be in Jakarta on Monday night and was wondering if and where the best scene is on a Monday. CJs any good? My first time in Jakarta and need some pointers? I tend to go for a more classy girl. Need one urgently!
Thanks
My first time in Jakarta and only there 1 night and a Monday at that! Are there any nice places to look for cute girls? I heard red square and another place near there have great girls but on a Monday? I like upscale chicks.
Have heard so much about Jakarta so need to test it out. I wil be back for more time July!
Thanks
Tamurlane26
07-01-07, 16:51
Am sure that in the case of my good friend that his percentage is well above the average batting ratio of hitters in the AL - perhaps we should simply refer to him as the Barry Bonds of Jakarta !
As for Sunday nights better to pm a senior and pray that they listen to your pitiful requests for contact details - CJ's is often dry on a sunday unless you drop your criteria.
Another phrase to avoid when they call you "Bule Basse" or "Bastard" - funnily happened to me as they thought I lived in Jakarta and wondered why I was forever changing partners. Its amazing how misconceptions can arise or is it because am too damned lazy to move out of the hotel at night or else my business partners never shut up until late thus reducing me to crawling into CJ's ! Mind you it has helped me avoid a fight or two from drunken persons whose nationality i shall not mention. It was more amusing as I was protected by not only the bouncers but also some ladies as well as the locals - now that is what you call the "Cheers" experience !!!
happy hunting and a good week to all
Asian Rhino
07-01-07, 17:03
Has anyone ever been to Crown Disco at Glodok Plaza near Kota? Heard that many youngsters would follow you back if you buy them ecstasy.
There is ample guidance in the forum, however given your shortage of time and my abundance of it (being in UK now) I will summarise with a quick and easy solution. You say "upscale" which of course is open to interpretation.
If you want really "upscale" then you will be hard pushed to achieve very much in the next 24 hours starting from zero. Even in Jakarta finding even reasonably "upscale" girls takes a while (days/weeks, not hours). If you want a really attractive girl who is capable of totally convincing you that she is a nice girl, who appears really "upscale" because she has a Nokia N91 and a Gucci handbag and that this is the first night she has been out in weeks because she has a demanding high powered job but it's her friends birthday and she really likes you and and and.....then go to BATS. Although she hasn't has sex for 6 months which was with her long standing boyfriend who she finished with, you will pretty definitely get her back to hotel bedroom in 30 minutes and fuck her all night long for 400 - 600k. Because she has a brother who is going through university and needs to pay his fees and also an aunt who is ill in hospital she will push you for 1 million. Good luck, but you won't need any if you follow my advice.
Another phrase to avoid when they call you "Bule Basse" or "Bastard"
I'm not so sure it really means "bastard", but it does amount to about the same thing in some of the girls eyes. Bule Basi is a term used for Bules who have been in Indonesia a long time. It basically translates to "spoiled (or rotten, or useless) Bule". So in other words, you aren't "fresh meat". LOL! If you speak Indonesian to the girls, they will almost always label you as Bule Basi no matter how nice you are or how much of a bastard you are. That's why I speak only english when I first meet girls in the upscale markets like the 5 star hotels. Alot of the girls there will lose interest if I speak indonesian to them. But honestly, the reason they don't want Bule Basi is because those type of guys know their game and won't be likely to fork over big money the first night or for their "sick father" later.
I don't agree on the fact that when you talk indonesian to the ladies that they lose interest. I am a young guy 33 y. O and look quite okay and I always have more attention of the women when I talk indonesian. They really like it and if you can be funny in their language. And make jokes with them. It is even better. It has given me a lot of free fucks. And a lot of these women wanted to be my steady gf but hey I am in indonesia man who wants a steady relationship. Not me for sure. But if you keep playing them and send them an sms once in while and say that you miss them they are quite ok with it. They willl keep on playing with other man for sure. But hey who cares.
But for me it is only an advantage to speak indonesian. I never talk english to these girls.
I agree better stay away from XTC. And drugs. Specially in a country like indonesia. If the police catches you. You will have a long long time sitting there. And it is not a hotel like in Europe. This is really shithole jail.
You can get these girls also without XTC or drugs. You can pay them for sex or promise them to go out shopping.
I know a guy who can sit a long time now in jakarta due to his business in XTC and this is really no fun at all in indonesia.
So keep away from that. Is my only tip!
I always have more attention of the women when I talk indonesian.
I think it totally depends on the venue. If it's one of the 5 star hotels loaded with chickens, I think it's a better idea not to speak indonesian. Anywhere else in town, it's a good idea to speak it.
Mighty Spearsman
07-02-07, 15:47
Has anyone ever been to Crown Disco at Glodok Plaza near Kota? Heard that many youngsters would follow you back if you buy them ecstasy.
Please note that ecstasy is illegal in Indonesia!
Indonesia has some of the toughest drug laws of any country in the world, and seems to like to mete out harsh punishment to any foreigner who is caught with illegal drugs, to make an example of them. This is not a joke, from what I've read in the papers recently, there are a few foreigners on death row here after being found guilty of drug possession or drug dealing.
Any foreigner who gets involved with illegal drugs in Indonesia is nuts and is playing with fire - don't do it!
On a lighter note, the Vice-President of Indonesia just last week said that it was ok to use marijuana as seasoning on your food - but I think he was joking.
Having said that, I once again am suspicious that the person who made the quoted post is a newbie with only one post (as of this writing) and yet is recommending illegal activity - strange indeed!
I do not fully agree with not talking indonesian in the 5star hotels. I always go to CJS and the other clubs. And I always get good results when I talk in their language. Never had any bad experiences due to this. But for me no problems if you prefer talk english you talk english we all have our own preferences how to make a move on the ladies. So just see and do what you think is best!
I just thought I'd pass on an amusing experience the other day...
During a short visit to Singapore, I stopped into Ipanema in Orchard Towers to get a quick survey of the scene. After a short time I was having a discussion with a pleasant Cambodian girl. As I was getting her number for another day, an old BATS girl I hadn't seen in about 2 years pops up out of the dark and immediately recognised me. I guess she 'graduated', lol.
One of the earliest girls I met there back in the day, and not exactly my type even back then. Now she's aged closer to that drop off age, looks-wise. Nevertheless, she demanded s200 for ST, even though I didn't ask and certainly didn't want to (with the stunning cambodian with a 9 body only looking for s150).
Funny how the 500k BATS price is now 3-4x higher!
Dom Perignon
07-03-07, 05:06
Please note that ecstasy is illegal in Indonesia!
Indonesia has some of the toughest drug laws of any country in the world, and seems to like to mete out harsh punishment to any foreigner who is caught with illegal drugs, to make an example of them. This is not a joke, from what I've read in the papers recently, there are a few foreigners on death row here after being found guilty of drug possession or drug dealing.
Any foreigner who gets involved with illegal drugs in Indonesia is nuts and is playing with fire - don't do it!
On a lighter note, the Vice-President of Indonesia just last week said that it was ok to use marijuana as seasoning on your food - but I think he was joking.
Having said that, I once again am suspicious that the person who made the quoted post is a newbie with only one post (as of this writing) and yet is recommending illegal activity - strange indeed!I totally agree my dear.
If you want to do drugs dont go to indonesia.
Ildom
Joel Goodsen
07-03-07, 07:47
Has anyone ever been to Crown Disco at Glodok Plaza near Kota?
Before you enter the disco there is this hallway where girls tend to congregate and chat. Easy to pick up from there, plenty of supply. There won't be many pro's and knowledge of English is rather low, but still very easy to score.
Hi,
I've been looking in the forum to try to find if anyone replied to a guy who posted in the last few weeks about taking a girl to join him and his gf.
I'm in the same situation where I'm being "forced" to bang someone for "her" pleasure. Its not a necessity that the girl is bi, as my gf "claims" she wont touch the girl and only requires a licking from me.
Any idea's where would be the best place to try. I might be wrong, but i really don't think I can find someone suitable in friendster or msn/yahoo into this sort of thing.
Cheers
Sebastian My
07-04-07, 01:47
Alexis Hotel Overview. I normally spend all my time working when i come to Jakarta, but decided this time to see what was on offer so visited Alexis Hotel. This reminded me of a Taiwanese style lounge MP and was both large and very professional. There seemed to be a lot of different options on offer when i arrived at what looked like a very busy hotel front desk, but i decided to try the “Lounge”. Behind the front desk is a lift and the top floor (or second from the top) you will find the MP Lounge. When you enter, it all felt like a standard high class MP. You walking to a dressing area where you were provided pyjama's and a robe. You locked all your belonging in a locker and are provided with a wrist band with a magnetic key to open your locker. Once prepared you can do the normal wash up, shower, etc, before you moved into the lounge. On one side you will find legit massage cubicles, spa's and a small swimming pool, a bar and some deck chairs to lie in. On the other side there is a lounge with a large number of providers, ranging from locals, Russians, Chinese and Thai's. The locals were about 600,000 and the others about 1,500,000. The place was also filled with lounges and chairs which you can sit on and order drinks while you parsed the selection. I think the process from this point on can be imagined. There is an additional cost for the room, about 150,000, in some cases a service charge of 120,000 and you can even have a legit massage for 150,000. A rather pleasant, if costly establishment.
I have seen posts that tell us where to find almost every girl imaginable in Jakarta. Indo girls, Thai girls, Chinese girls, Vietnamese girls, White girls (russian)... but I have yet to see any posts on where to find nice black african girls in town. Does anyone have any information on where to find some sexy young african girls in town and how much they would cost? Preferably for a full service oil and/or body body massage with a large butted young african girl. I'd think the local indo guys would go crazy over this type of girl since they would be exotic to them, so there must be some out there. Supply and demand.
I'd think the local indo guys would go crazy over this type of girl since they would be exotic to them,
Not so sure.
I think the Indo guys prefer the white meat like the russians or chinese.
Cheers!
Mighty Spearsman
07-04-07, 07:33
I have seen posts that tell us where to find almost every girl imaginable in Jakarta. Indo girls, Thai girls, Chinese girls, Vietnamese girls, White girls (russian)... but I have yet to see any posts on where to find nice black african girls in town. Does anyone have any information on where to find some sexy young african girls in town and how much they would cost? Preferably for a full service oil and/or body body massage with a large butted young african girl. I'd think the local indo guys would go crazy over this type of girl since they would be exotic to them, so there must be some out there. Supply and demand.
Having once lived with a "large butted young African girl," I am sympathetic to your request. But from what I've seen in 18 months living here, there are very, very few (if any) black African girls who are working as pros in Jakarta.
You might find a few black freelancers out there at the various nightspots in town, and you might be able to meet a girl at some of the spots where Africans gather. I don't have any specific info on these spots, but I know that they exist. There seem to be a lot of Africans in one neighborhood in Tangerang.
Part of the problem is that there just are not that many single African girls living here in Indonesia, for visa reasons and other reasons. I've run across a few beautiful African girls at various shopping malls here, but they all seem to be living here with their husband/boyfriend (who often is a professional soccer/football player).
My impression of "supply and demand" is the opposite of yours - most Indonesian men seem more interested in being with girls who are as light-skinned as possible, thus the reason why girls from China, Russia, Kazahkstan, etc. can get a premium price of 1,500,000 rupiah at local MPs while the local girls cost 1/3rd that amount or less.
If anyone has any better info than me on this subject, please share it with the board. I certainly cannot claim to be an expert on this subject, these are just my impressions.
Tamurlane26
07-04-07, 09:46
They congregate in Jalan Jaksa in the bar opposite BFC however the challenge is you may be the only white guy in there and that might cause an issue ! Its a bit like going to a pimps convention - lots of bling and some great characters. Dont ask what I was doing in there as the story is so funny as to be ridiculous - but suffice to say it was a blast. Once you feel comfortable and they do also then you can have some fun and games - they have some of the strangest indo chicks with them as well - strange in the sense that once they start in on this scene they dont go to other bars again - must be something to do with the reputation or perhaps the performance !
Enjoy the journey - its a great bar and the joint jumps at night - just be prepared for some strange looks on entering - then again the same can be said if the Africans are seen anywhere else in the town as they carry with them a strange and often undeserved reputation.
I sometimes see black african women in CJ's. So there are some but only a few and they are not always there.
Good luck
Tamur, thanks for the suggestion. But I'm not looking for a place to pick up black women who are living in or visiting indonesia. I'm looking for black prostitutes similar to the PRC and Russian girls in the massage places. I don't want a relationship, I just want to go bang them for an hour and be done.
In CJs you still can find these black hookers. If they are around whether they live there or not. They are working girls for sure.
You can see it immediately they react when you look at them.
Hi, All,
I am staying in manhattan hotel, kuningan now. kind of tired to go out because just took a long jurney from Bandung.
Any outcall service SYt contacts to share for ST.
Deeply appreciate for your help.
Robert Long
07-04-07, 21:22
Tamur, thanks for the suggestion. But I'm not looking for a place to pick up black women who are living in or visiting indonesia. I'm looking for black prostitutes similar to the PRC and Russian girls in the massage places. I don't want a relationship, I just want to go bang them for an hour and be done.A quick flight to Papua would satisfy your needs. I have met a few in BALI also. Bone in the nose primative, so get ready for a ride.
I grew up in LA so I have also had the experience of dating black women. Very nice and sensitive with a lot of emotion while making love.
Good hunting.
RL
I haven't been to Papua. And I've never been with a girl who has a bone in her nose. If I could be guaranteed a black midget chick with a bone in her nose and a huge butt, I'd be on the next flight. But her breasts have to be firm. I don't care if they are big or small, but I don't want them to be floppy. Also, I dont want to be with any cannibal chicks. I need oral to get excited and wouldn't feel comfortable if the girl was a cannibal.
Hi Brothers,
Just came back from JKT and had a pretty interesting trip, to say the least; one of our esteemed ISG brothers joined me at the KTV, and we had a good time. This is what he wrote in a PM to me after the outing, and I just would like to share with one and all (I am keeping his name out of it for obvious reasons):
“ ... Sorry, I wasnt trying to scare you last night about this black magic practices. I personally don't believe, but these girls do.
The first girl didnt do something funny to your drink, but to you right shoe. She first poured the wiskey, followed by the beer. She took an ice cube w/ an ice chopstick and stirred it. Then, she ... (I don't know how to explain it, but it is similar like when a monk blessed a person using holly water). Lets forget about it … “
Here’s what happened …
As mentioned in my previous FR, I wanted to follow-up with a WL from my favorite KTV. We had kept in touch via sms, and I informed her that I would be arriving Jakarta again on 2nd July.
I arrived on the evening flight, had a pretty bad flu’, and the journey from the airport was spent fielding sms-es from her asking whether I would be going to the KTV that night.
Somehow, I got a bit annoyed at her pestering sms-es ... Basically, I am a GFE guy, and even though I know it’s money-for-honey where she’s concerned, I was irritated that it was so blatant on her part (seems that Indonesian girls have not been winning the Academy Award nominations for “Best Actress” recently). So, I replied to her that I wasn’t feeling well, and won’t be going out that night.
She asked whether she could come to my hotel, after she finished work, and I replied that if I was feeling better at that time, why not? So, I think she got the message, and became a bit more subdued, asking me to take care, have a good rest, etc. etc.
The next day, she sent me an sms in the morning, and said that she was moving to a new kos, and whether I was interested to help her pay for the moving – I said, “No!”. I was very proud of my assertiveness, and I’m sure my brothers from the Malaysian thread would be as well. ;)
After that, she showed up at my hotel in the evening, we had one round, and we went to the KTV. There was much drinking, and at one point, M asked me whether a friend of hers could come in for some drinks. Her friend, K, did not have any customers that night, and would like to come in for the drinks, no extra charge. I agreed, as I was feeling very happy from the drinks consumed.
K walks in, and when I saw her, I was very surprised. She came up to me, and asked, “Do you remember me?” I replied, “Yes, I have often looked for you all these years, but was told that you had resigned.” K was one of the first KTV girls I ever had in Jakarta, and this goes back some 4 years ago! Turns out, she and M were staying at the same kos now.
M looks at us, and asked whether I had gone out with K before, and I said, “Yes!”. K started feeling uncomfortable, and decided to sit far, far away from me, even though I asked her to sit with M and I – already scheming how to get 2 of them back to my room together. :D M then decides to throw a fuss, and goes to sit right next to one of my friends, and said that she wants to give me the chance to be with K.
This was followed by some whispered conversation between the 2 of them, slightly “heated” argument, and gesticulations on their part.
Aiya … well, sorted out everything, pacified M and she came back to sit with me. K disappeared somewhere else after awhile, and we just continued drinking, singing and dancing. That’s when my ISG brother told me that he spotted M doing “something”.
Well, I ended up with M that night, had one round in the shower together, and settled in for a much needed rest at 2.30am. Then …. M’s phone starts ringing every 30 minutes until 6.00am, K keeps calling her, and at one point I heard M telling her that 'the key to the kos is kept in the basket ….' suffice to say that I did not have any sleep at all.
Somehow I developed a hard-on at 7.00am, and wanted one more round. Started to kiss M, moved to her neck, down to her nipples … and was rebuffed by her!! She grumbled that her pussy “sakit” from the size of Little Panya …. which is nonsense !! (there’s a reason why I refer to him as “little”). Well, things became decidedly cool from then onwards.
I checked out from the hotel, while she waited at a discreet distance, and she remained chatting on her mobile phone up to the time she went into the taxi to go home. No ‘goodbye’ kiss or hug, not even a nod – sheesh!!
I’m going back to the KTV on my next trip, and I am going to select S, who was sitting with my friend – she’s not available for take-out, so I am interested in slowly working on her, for “long term, relaxed relationship”. :P
When will these P4P gals also realize that it’s honey-for-money where we’re concerned??
Best,
Panya
Panya you are right a lot of these girls pretend to care but they only care about our Uang (money) as long as you keep saying no to their questions then it is alright.
All these girls keep sending smses can you help me with this. Can you pay this for me. Can you do that for me. Fuck it. I am in fucking europe now why should I pay and get nothing in return. I don't know when I am back in jakarta. I am not santa claus.
They think that 800 euro is nothing for us. Man we can have a few nice rounds in a FKK club or whatever. For many people in europe this is a half month work. They do not know the value of money there. And think we bule people have all the money laying there to be given out. They think 800 euro is for us like 80 euro. I don't know what they are thinking.
I banged a singer once of a band that sang at that time in jakarta and she wanted to buy her a fucking mic. I said that she could have my own wireless mic and do a soundcheck. With that mic I meant little seqoya. She said. Aduh kamu. Nakal aja.
The other one sms me if I can help her pay her car for this month 3. 000. 0000 other wise the car will be gone. No no no no no. I said.
And so it goes on and on. With these GFs but for me I don't go there. I found a girl in Mulia. Just talked with her in the lobby she was nice and actress in some kind a soap and cinetron movies. I only send some smsses with her as I had to leave the other day. When I was back home. She asked me immediately for money. Is that crazy or not. I did not even fuck her. They are really not malu for asking.
As long as you guys know these girls only want our money. And think they can play us. But for me. I know I play them better. I keep them thinking they are the only one. But while I am there. I am banging all of them. I even fucked friends of eachother without they knowing it. And both thinking they had something with me.
We have to be smarter guys. Don't fall for the sad stories. At the end you will be millions of rupiah poorer and they will ask many of the bule guys for the same
They can have a nice living like this because they have a good database with white guys who think they are the only one.
I had a girl in Bali once she had a german older guy and when he came she was his gf. The guy was paying maybe 1000 euro per month to keep her out of the clubs that she will not work. But the girl was silently still going on with this work. I was calling her when he was there and because of the fact that I speak indonesian the guy thought it was family.
Anyway this guy fucked her until his wife in germany found out and the girl did not get money anymore
So guys watch out think with your heads and not with your dick.
Aussiebloke453
07-05-07, 13:06
CJ's at Mulia is probably the best place on Sunday night; maybe 30% of girls in there are semi-pro hookers and many of the rest "amateurs", i.e. girls with jobs looking to supplement their income.
Can you take a lady from CJ's back to your room if you stay at the Mulia?
Cheers,
Fleet
No problem at all. I always stay at the mulia and they are used to the girls going up. But if you let them go out. Accompany them to the taxi cause security can do a bit difficult when the girl is coming alone.
Once I fucked a girl a model and she did not do a too good job and was very mooody I let her go home alone. My friends from security said in the morning that they had her waiting for 1, 5 hr. They said why is Mr. Seqoya not coming with you. You know that I was with your friend Mr. Seqoya but now you do difficult. Yeah the guys say. Mr. S is a friend but he is also my guest and he can be dead in his room. Normally he always bring back the girls. And now he doesnt. So we want your pasport etc etc. So the girl was really angry the other day. Hahahahahha fuck that shit.
Can you take a lady from CJ's back to your room if you stay at the Mulia?
Cheers,
FleetYes. You can even take two is my guess.
Fleetz, Yes. You can walk directly to the elevator on the same level as CJ's and pretty much avoid the walk of shame -- the only people that will see you are a security guard and maybe the receptionist in the business center, and I've never been stopped by either.
Edit: That's weird, neither Seqoya nor Acerboy's posts were up when I originally wrote this, and Acerboy is a Senior Member. Sorry for the redundancy.
Panya you are right a lot of these girls pretend to care but they only care about our Uang (money) as long as you keep saying no to their questions then it is alright.
All these girls keep sending smses can you help me with this. Can you pay this for me. Can you do that for me. Fuck it. I am in fucking europe now why should I pay and get nothing in return. I don't know when I am back in jakarta. I am not santa claus.
They think that 800 euro is nothing for us. Man we can have a few nice rounds in a FKK club or whatever. For many people in europe this is a half month work. They do not know the value of money there. And think we bule people have all the money laying there to be given out. They think 800 euro is for us like 80 euro. I don't know what they are thinking.
So guys watch out think with your heads and not with your dick.I've got part of the answer for you, mate: Friendster! As I am writing these lines, I have just come back from banging a chick I met 6 days ago at her own 3-bedroom appartment in Taman Anggrek.- a great experience to bang them in their own condo! Most of the chicks I have met on friendster have steady reasonably-paid jobs and have not asked me for $$$ so far. Mind you, I am of the type to bang them 2-4 times and then move on. So if I were to bang them more times, who knows if the $$ issue may not pop up.
There you go, mate!
Security has been a bit tighter recently with gals coming downstairs on their own after the bang is done. They are stopped by security almost systematically these days and either face an unpleasant moment of having to produce ID and wait or having to grease the wheel with 50k Rp.
So if you guys are gentlemen, do go down with them. You do not have to go all the way and escort them to the taxi area and therefore "enjoy" the walk of shame; it is enough to go down the lift with them and as soon as you come out of the lift on the groundfloor give a visual signal/eye contact with the guard and that's enough, you can then go back in the lift and to your room, you're done, no walk of shame.
Rainman 2108
07-05-07, 19:25
Rich club
New huge private club in town. Very upmarket, play mainly tech no music. Girls dancer sit with you in bikini and there are many SYT PRO. That is the minute u come in. I came at 9 pm there about.
At 10pm, music starts and the dancer goes on stage, 10 of them... only 2 piece bikini,,.... so dance and dance and off they goes.... If some dancers are slow to strip. The mammy will walk toward the stage and ask them to hand over the panties. U see after the mammy walking toward the other sides of the hall with all color of bikini in her hand. Quite funny though.....
And here the interesting part.... these naked ladies will go from table to table lap dancing and u can feel them all over... Quite nice and one of a kind really. Before the dance, they come lap dancing in 2 piece Bikini n now totally naked.... So what's the diff anyway??????
damaged : 2 btls Chives, some fruits and lady drink about 4 million.. hmmmm..... 5 guys and one lady went....
Cheers
Rainman 2108
07-05-07, 19:42
Hi, All,
I am staying in manhattan hotel, kuningan now. kind of tired to go out because just took a long jurney from Bandung.
Any outcall service SYt contacts to share for ST.
Deeply appreciate for your help.
This is not an escort center.... Put in some effort to find what u want..
cheers
Rainman 2108
07-05-07, 19:43
I sometimes see black african women in CJ's. So there are some but only a few and they are not always there.
Good luck
Well. Africa is my biz for the past 10 yrs.
Do not touch them.
Thanks
Rainman 2108
07-05-07, 19:50
Having once lived with a "large butted young African girl," I am sympathetic to your request. But from what I've seen in 18 months living here, there are very, very few (if any) black African girls who are working as pros in Jakarta.
You might find a few black freelancers out there at the various nightspots in town, and you might be able to meet a girl at some of the spots where Africans gather. I don't have any specific info on these spots, but I know that they exist. There seem to be a lot of Africans in one neighborhood in Tangerang.
Part of the problem is that there just are not that many single African girls living here in Indonesia, for visa reasons and other reasons. I've run across a few beautiful African girls at various shopping malls here, but they all seem to be living here with their husband/boyfriend (who often is a professional soccer/football player).
My impression of "supply and demand" is the opposite of yours - most Indonesian men seem more interested in being with girls who are as light-skinned as possible, thus the reason why girls from China, Russia, Kazahkstan, etc. can get a premium price of 1,500,000 rupiah at local MPs while the local girls cost 1/3rd that amount or less.
If anyone has any better info than me on this subject, please share it with the board. I certainly cannot claim to be an expert on this subject, these are just my impressions.
Well, U do have deep knowledge about these girls here..
They are not worth it.... African I slept with in Gabon and Tema are night mare...
Cheers
Rainman 2108
07-05-07, 19:57
I always thought I knew these women after staying here for more then 10 years.
Here goes... Was not in the best of mood and just wanted to hv a drinks, it went on and at 11. A old "Friends" came in......
Went to my place,,,,,, was too drunk to hv sex.... so some oral.... she came twice I guess,.,,,,, me.... NO....
Time to go back.... friend was here with her friend... so booked taxi. Told her I transfer some money to her in the morn after adv her bank account number,,,,
Send me a few SMS in the morning threating me... Tell me to watch out if I do not give her money.....
Best part is...she do not hv a Bank account. Gave me her friend's.. a/c...
Anyway.. What u think u know might not be the real girl u know... be careful.....
cheeers
Rainman 2108
07-05-07, 20:01
Has anyone ever been to Crown Disco at Glodok Plaza near Kota? Heard that many youngsters would follow you back if you buy them ecstasy.
CROWD is dead..
Today in place......
1) K7
2) Sands
3) Milles
4) Centro/embassy
5) Stadium..
6) Classic Hotel
7) FM3
8) Mezza 9/
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RGDS
Security has been a bit tighter recently with gals coming downstairs on their own after the bang is done. They are stopped by security almost systematically these days and either face an unpleasant moment of having to produce ID and wait or having to grease the wheel with 50k Rp.
The Shangri la is notorious for shaking the girls down. But other hotels do it as well. I've had girls tell me they've been shaken down 5 different times for 50k each (total 250k) on their way out. (and these are girls I have known a long time and I trust, so I don't doubt they are telling the truth). They also tell me at times the security wants to take nude pictures and/or have sex with them or threatens to call the police.
I agree that walking them down is the correct thing to do.
Rainman 2108
07-05-07, 20:06
Managed 2 rounds at different KTVs last week.
The first was a place called Melody, located in Blok M Plaza (opp. Grand Mahakam hotel). KTV rooms are small, but notorious for having about 45 girls literally screaming for your attention when you walk through the door.
I had previously eyed this girl sitting with one of my clients the last time, and she really had a body to die for. Standing at 5ft. 6in., larger than B-cups (less than C, as I found out later), long sturdy legs, and abs that hinted of the vagina sqqqquuuueeezzze ...
As the night progressed, she informed that it's 15 hours at Rp 35,000 per hour for the establishment, and she wanted Rp 1 million for herself. Yes ... total of Rp 1.5 million -- I said NO! Actually, it was negotiated down to Rp 500,000 for her, and I very, very nearly said 'Yes' -- not enough to drink, so was in control of my big brain. :D
So, I went back alone.
The next night decided to hit Cosmos -- it's really the best in terms of getting laid with KTV girls who know what it's all about. As I was feeling tired and really, really drunk -- went out with Korean clients this time -- decided to opt for the attached washroom bang. I must have pumped her forever, and could not cum ... well, I really overdid the liquor, and only had myself to blame.
Anyway, since she is quite a looker (and a groaner to boot), I will be following up with her outside of the KTV on my next trip. What was it that Brother Tamurlane said about "long term, relaxed relationships" ?? ;)
Best,
Panya
Nice report.... I know these places..
Cheeres
Rainman 2108
07-05-07, 20:13
Sorry was away for awhile due job commitment....
Anybody been to the tropical SPA in Roxy ??
Let me know ig u want to goes there..
Cheers
Rich club
New huge private club in town. Very upmarket, play mainly tech no music. Girls dancer sit with you in bikini and there are many SYT PRO. That is the minute you come in. I came at 9 pm there about.
At 10pm, music starts and the dancer goes on stage, 10 of them. Only 2 piece bikini, . So dance and dance and off they goes. If some dancers are slow to strip. The mammy will walk toward the stage and ask them to hand over the panties. You see after the mammy walking toward the other sides of the hall with all color of bikini in her hand. Quite funny though.
And here the interesting part. These naked ladies will go from table to table lap dancing and you can feel them all over. Quite nice and one of a kind really. Before the dance, they come lap dancing in 2 piece Bikini and now totally naked. So what's the diff anyway?
Damaged: 2 btls Chives, some fruits and lady drink about 4 million. Hmmmm. 5 guys and one lady went.
CheersHeh heh. Sounds good for me to have another go to jakarta again. Well. Just wondering what is the name of this place and how does the girls look? Can you bring them back? But it sounds like tiger show to me.
Joel Goodsen
07-05-07, 23:52
Strange. Recently on a Thursday night I went to K7 at around 12 midnight, normally a good time to go out. The place was completely dead. Not a soul to be seen.. apart from a few doormen. After that I moved on to Crown. The place was chock-ers and laden with cewek. Even a wheel-chair bound 70-yo high on Viagra would have been able to land himself a girl, right there and then ..if he was to speak a few words bahasa that is.
Hi Guys
I shall be arriving in Jakarta Saturday morning 07-07-07. I'll be in town until Thursday evening. Anybody want to meet up for some socialising etc?
I'm flying solo on this trip but feel that some experiences are best shared with a co-pilot.
SK
The Shangri la is notorious for shaking the girls down. But other hotels do it as well. I've had girls tell me they've been shaken down 5 different times for 50k each (total 250k) on their way out. (and these are girls I have known a long time and I trust, so I don't doubt they are telling the truth). They also tell me at times the security wants to take nude pictures and/or have sex with them or threatens to call the police.
I agree that walking them down is the correct thing to do.Wow, unbelievable, 250k Rp! Poor chick!
Definitely walk them go.
Fleetz, Yes. You can walk directly to the elevator on the same level as CJ's and pretty much avoid the walk of shame -- the only people that will see you are a security guard and maybe the receptionist in the business center, and I've never been stopped by either.
Edit: That's weird, neither Seqoya nor Acerboy's posts were up when I originally wrote this, and Acerboy is a Senior Member. Sorry for the redundancy.There is a lag to posting, I guess Jackson filters all the postings or it goes through some kind of delay mechanism before it is up on ISG. But there doesn't seem to be any consistency in the timing from what I can see.
Looking forward to my Jakarta trip early August. Hoping to have a few 3somes as gf is coming with me. Any FLs willing to do this, please pm me.
I've got part of the answer for you, mate: Friendster!
I have always wondered about the results that you can get from these sites. I had signed up for Adult Friend Finder, but never went all the way to pay the fees to become a full-time member.
A bule friend in Jakarta signed up for Skype, and was almost immediately inundated with girls he never knew sending him messages, offering themselves. With a name like "Anthony", I guess it's easy for the girls to do a random search, and blast messages to all "Anthony's".
Sequoya is right -- I think much has been written about this subject, and I think my experience just says it all. The girl I was with in my FR, Miss M, is 20 years old, from Semarang, got pregnant/married at 16 yrs, and divorced at 17 yrs, and has one kid. When she was with me, she was feeling depressed, cos her younger sister was going through the same fate -- 16 yrs old, and pregnant. Guess that the seed doesn't fall very far from the tree!
Best,
Panya
Rich club
New huge private club in town. Very upmarket, play mainly tech no music. Girls dancer sit with you in bikini and there are many SYT PRO. That is the minute u come in. I came at 9 pm there about.
damaged : 2 btls Chives, some fruits and lady drink about 4 million.. hmmmm..... 5 guys and one lady went....
Cheers
Where's this place, bro? Sounds like an interesting change from the norm, and I'd like to check it out. Do they have private rooms?
Rainman. If these girls threaten you to watch out. Don't be scared. Tell them to fuck off and do not threathen you again or you will send your friends from intell after her. For sure she will stop. They are really afraid of intel
Specially with the job they have.
I recently read about a place called K7 but couldn't find a description of location. Can someone tell me how to get to it from Blok M? Thanks.
After reading for a while, I decided to send a post.
Checked out CJ's last Tuesday night. Seemed to be many semi-pro women and not a great amount of customers. Had a fun time making a choice. Shook off the first few and spent some time with another that caught my eye and gave me the "I'm available" smile. Well worth the time. She is not a pro. Just a Java girl trying to suppliment her day job. Great effort and came back for more on Weds night. Sorry to say I had to leave on Thursday, or we would have spent more time together. 800 and cab fare was enough to make her happy.
I have to say that CJ's is all that has been written about it.
Thanks for all the information.
I recently read about a place called K7 but couldn't find a description of location. Can someone tell me how to get to it from Blok M? Thanks.K7 is in Kota,
Go straight through to the end of the line pass the station pass cafe batavia (where you now have to go left and turn right again along the one way put in place). when you hit the end of the road North (you would have gone along the canal and passed Athena on your left) - turn right. in front of you at the junction you will see a sign post saying K7 and an arrow. after you turn right at the junction its about 300 mt along the same road.
So basically hit Kota, go North as long as you can, look for the sign and turn right.
She is not a pro. Just a Java girl trying to suppliment her day job.
This MAY be true. However, any girl there on a tuesday night is very likely a "pro" regardless of what she tells you. You'll find the non-pros out on the weekend - mainly at the end of the month when rent is due. But on a tuesday night? Not likely.
CJ's isn't the only place in town like that. There are many many many...
Rainman 2108
07-07-07, 14:59
Heh heh. Sounds good for me to have another go to jakarta again. Well. Just wondering what is the name of this place and how does the girls look? Can you bring them back? But it sounds like tiger show to me.
I wrote there right?
Name is "RICH" Private Club,.
Look wise... A easy 7/10...
Bring back. Well they love disco.... If u know what I mean....
If they are already totally naked here,,,,, why not let u enter for more money????
Cheers
Rainman 2108
07-07-07, 15:02
Where's this place, bro? Sounds like an interesting change from the norm, and I'd like to check it out. Do they have private rooms?
It's not a KTV but just dance club.
The rich sit and drink with the girls in Bikini.... Music very loud though....
Place is somewhere in Permata Hijia...
Cheers
"Can you take a lady from CJ's back to your room if you stay at the Mulia?" - the answer is "yes" - I have yet to find a hotel in Jakarta where you can't take in anyone you want. At worst you would have to pay a small tip to security (20,000 - 30,000) but I've never had to.
Knight 1001
07-08-07, 05:24
After reading for a while, ...... 800 and cab fare was enough to make her happy.
Thanks for all the information.
I hope that the 800 KRp you are referring to were for the 2 sessions of both tuesday AND wednesday.
Else you will be driving the prices out of the ceiling and making it impossible for other guys to get to those girls.
Read again carefully the posts here and you'll find that 400 KRp is the normal and accepted price for one evening with the vast majority of the girls.
Cheers
Thanks Alvinyanto.
It was for two nights, but if I wanted to pay more it is up to me. Not what the rest of the market can pay.
I do respect the "normal" prices that are reported.
Yeah alvinyanto you are right. Everyone has to learn how to play these girls. As they love to play us. Anyway, a girl on Tuesday in CJ is definately a pro. They will not say that as they pretend to be shy and they want you to think you are the only one.
Would anyone know where I might be able to get toys (say a little vibrator) in Jakarta?
A couple of weeks I was at Changi airport and I bumped into a pro who used to hang out almost every night at CJ's. Though we have not shagged, she recognizes me -- and so do I-- and we say Hi to each other. She tells me that she's been working (ie freelancing) here in Singapore for a while.
Last Friday, I bump into her at CJ's ! We have a short chat and she brags about the 8,000 SING (more or less 5,000USD) she made while in Singapore for about a month of shagging guys. Her number looks a bit on the high side but hey whatever, that's not the point.
I then go and chat with another freelancer who recently took my fancy (though we have not yet shagged, I just chit chat with her while at CJ's) and she is telling me she wants to go to Singapore every once in a while spend a few weeks, come back to JKT, then back to Singapore etc. She then asks me about typical prices to rent a place or cheap hotels in Singapore.
Looks to me like the first chick aforementioned is spreading the news at CJ''s that it is possible to make 5,000 USD per month being porked in Singapore and that is creating quite a bit of noise in the CJ freelance community.
I thought I would report this as a fun anecdote. There will be new batches of Indo's in Sing soon!
Cheers, and happy shagging!
Adam C Day
07-09-07, 22:10
Would anyone know where I might be able to get toys (say a little vibrator) in Jakarta?I think I've seen quite a few stalls in WTC Mangga Dua and Mangga Dua Square that sell those things. They also carry viagra among others.
I bought a pair of binoculars from a store in Mal Ambasador which is close to Le Meridien Hotel. That store carried all kinds of sex related stuff and the young ladies there unabashedly showed me penis shaped vibrators, pumps among others. Don't ask me the price because I didn't bother.
Anyway, I know that store is located in the second floor in the walkway that connects Ambasador to ITC (not sure what that means). It's not hard to miss as they got lots of stuff that gadget freaks like me love to look at.
Cooze Hound
07-09-07, 22:22
Good point Mandiri, over the last 15 months I know of several Blok M girls that are going to Singapore for stints, usually 6 months and mainly working in Geylang. All are aware of of it. Also 5-6 I know have recently made the move to Bali, they see it as a better place to ply their trade in terms of lifestyle and business. Time will tell.
would anyone know where i might be able to get toys (say a little vibrator) in jakarta?
if you go to the kota area in the evening, along jalan gajah mada will be dozens of stalls selling (fake?) viagra and other pills. they also sell sex-toys.
otherwise look for small shops that are rep001tered all over jakarta selling "pil biru" (=blue pills=viagra).
Thanks Alvinyanto.
It was for two nights, but if I wanted to pay more it is up to me. Not what the rest of the market can pay.
I do respect the "normal" prices that are reported.
I second Knight1001´s remarks. It is not about what the rest of the market can pay, it is about spoiling the market (what you didn´t, btw), especially for newbies. Senior members will know when absurd prices are asked and how to cope with that.
We have a short chat and she brags about the 8,000 SING (more or less 5,000USD) she made while in Singapore for about a month of shagging guys.
If she worked in the Geylang district she must have had an average of 7 mongers each day. If she worked at OT, even less mongers each day. So it is possible and no wonder that you might bump into a familiar face.
Flying in from Singapore I have met, more than once, a working girl from blok M in the same plan I was in.
There will be new batches of Indo's in Sing soon!
This is actually nothing new. For example, I posted a pic of an indo girl a few months ago who has been doing the singapore circuit for a while now. She works Bats, CJ's, and 30 when she's in Jakarta. She tells me she has sex with about 20 men a day when she's in Singapore and that it results in very good money. She owns her own car and her own house in Jakarta now. She's been doing it for 3 years.
Most of the CJ's girls already know about the possibilities of Singapore. It takes the most hard core and brave girls to actually make the jump and go there though. God knows the Thai girls in Bangkok know about Singapore! LOL!
Singapore isn't the place I worry about though because they come back from there. It's when they go to Japan that I don't like. Many times they go there and don't ever return. There was a strong Japanese trade taking our indo girls a few years ago, but I don't think it's as rampant anymore. They would offer the girls a one year "contract", but you'd never see the girls come back. One example I knew of was where the Japanese pimps had an indo girl named Hanna working as a mama san recruiting the girls. She was actually fairly young as well. She used to go to the different bars and discos offering the girls this chance of a lifetime to make big money. I haven't seen her around for a while, but I know at least 10 different girls she recruited back then and I haven't seen a single one again since they left.
Mighty Spearsman
07-10-07, 04:57
For the last three years, I've been a regular customer at both Kartika Spa and Berlian Spa, side by side on a side alley off of Jalan Hayam Wuruk.
There's actually three MPs in this alley, the third one named the Royal Mas. To the best of my knowledge, this place has never had a post written about it, and until two weeks ago I had never gone inside it.
Out of curiosity I walked in one afternoon to take a look. The inside bar is smaller and more dingy (if that is possible) than Kartika and Berlian. The mamasan immediately called for all 12 of the girls on duty to walk up and shake my hand. The first several girls were all ugly, fat or over 35 years old (or a combination of all three!). I was ready to walk out when a decent-looking slender 20-year-old came up and shook my hand with a confident smile on her face, so I decided to go upstairs with her.
Her name was Dian, comes from a Jakarta suburb, said she had been working there for just over a year, day shift only. Turns out that Royal Mas offers a soapy body-to-body massage, similar to Kartika but not as good. So she gave me the body-to-body massage, then a decent FS session.
Would I return? and would I recommend? Probably not. There was nothing wrong with my session, but it was just ok, nothing special, neither GFE nor PSE. Dian was neither good-looking nor ugly. Her service level was that of a 30-year professional who's worked at one these places for 10 years, not a fresh and enthusiastic 20-year-old.
Recently I posted about a 20-year-old girl named Ayu at Maribaya Spa (Hotel Melawai 6th floor), who was just great, very enthusiastic and energetic. Unfortunately, Dian at Royal Mas shares nothing in common with Ayu except the age.
Another reason to not go to Royal Mas is the fact that it's right next to Kartika and Berlian - if you've gotten that far, you might as well keep walking another few meters to either of these places instead of stopping at Royal Mas.
So the other day I had a date, who I was supposed to meet at the Sahid. It was about 11pm, when she didn't turn up for an hour, I got chatting with the desk clerk. He asked me how come I was waiting and I said that my freind was not landing up. His prompt reply was "thats no problem" I have a friend. 10 mts later a knock on the door. And this guy walks in with 3 average (5-6) but young girls. Short time 400k.
Not anything great, but convenient in a fix.
Anyway. Off to ambassador mall tomorrow.
For the last three years, I've been a regular customer at both Kartika Spa and Berlian Spa, side by side on a side alley off of Jalan Hayam Wuruk.
There's actually three MPs in this alley, the third one named the Royal Mas. To the best of my knowledge, this place has never had a post written about it, and until two weeks ago I had never gone inside it.
Out of curiosity I walked in one afternoon to take a look. The inside bar is smaller and more dingy (if that is possible) than Kartika and Berlian. The mamasan immediately called for all 12 of the girls on duty to walk up and shake my hand. The first several girls were all ugly, fat or over 35 years old (or a combination of all three!). I was ready to walk out when a decent-looking slender 20-year-old came up and shook my hand with a confident smile on her face, so I decided to go upstairs with her.
Her name was Dian, comes from a Jakarta suburb, said she had been working there for just over a year, day shift only. Turns out that Royal Mas offers a soapy body-to-body massage, similar to Kartika but not as good. So she gave me the body-to-body massage, then a decent FS session.
Would I return? and would I recommend? Probably not. There was nothing wrong with my session, but it was just ok, nothing special, neither GFE nor PSE. Dian was neither good-looking nor ugly. Her service level was that of a 30-year professional who's worked at one these places for 10 years, not a fresh and enthusiastic 20-year-old.
Recently I posted about a 20-year-old girl named Ayu at Maribaya Spa (Hotel Melawai 6th floor), who was just great, very enthusiastic and energetic. Unfortunately, Dian at Royal Mas shares nothing in common with Ayu except the age.
Another reason to not go to Royal Mas is the fact that it's right next to Kartika and Berlian - if you've gotten that far, you might as well keep walking another few meters to either of these places instead of stopping at Royal Mas.I'm with you, another fan of Kartika, however I have mentioned this in the past but never received a reply. Apart from Kartika and Berlian I believe there are several other MPs in the lanes behind these spa's closer to the Stadium Nightclub. The names are Hawai Massage, Melinda massage, Tin Tin Massage and Maharaja Massage. Have you ever tried these? I would be very interested in anyones comments.
This is actually nothing new. For example, I posted a pic of an indo girl a few months ago who has been doing the singapore circuit for a while now. She works Bats, CJ's, and 30 when she's in Jakarta. She tells me she has sex with about 20 men a day when she's in Singapore and that it results in very good money. She owns her own car and her own house in Jakarta now. She's been doing it for 3 years.
seen a single one again since they left.20 guys a day ? Wow, that looks like a lot. I would think that as a freelancer once you've seen max 4-5 cocks you are done for the day. By that, I mean it must be psychologically draining for a freelance gal (and any other gla for that matter) to have more 4-5 cocks per day, no!
Anyways, it is what it is.
Joel Goodsen
07-10-07, 22:02
20 guys per day seems a little exaggerated, I can't believe that. Unless she partakes in gangbang activities, it would mean for a shift of 10 hours 2 guys per hour. In the MP of a Chinese friend, who I know close enough to also know her accounting books, some girls start at 10 am and finish at 10 pm doing around 12 to 15 guys per day. But that is a very well run operation and the girls work very hard.
Btw back in the early nineties there were already Indo girls in Singapore, the circuit has been around for quite sometime. If you're in one of the five star bars and suspect some mileage on the girl it's always a good question to ask if she 'knows' Singapore, just as to see how hardcore she is.
20 guys per day seems a little exaggerated, I can't believe that.
The last time I visited Geylang in Singapore, I went there just after work and the guy quoted me 80 sing dollars for 15 minutes with a girl. There was one girl there who stood out from the others and I selected her. We went to her little room in the back which was small but fairly nice with her pictures all over the walls so I assumed she was the only one using it. As we walked in, I noticed she put a little check mark on a piece of paper by the door. It was the 13th check mark. So I asked her if I was the 13th guy she'd been with that day. She said yes, I was the 13th that day but the reason for that is it was a slow day due to the rain. LOL! I was out of that room within 15 minutes having showered, gotten a bj and sex. The girl knew her business to get me off that quickly!
I believe 20 guys a day. The girls in Amsterdam do just as many.
I have always wondered about the results that you can get from these sites. I had signed up for Adult Friend Finder, but never went all the way to pay the fees to become a full-time member.What's the score with AFF? I mean they're professionals, right? This might sound incredibly naive but somehow the idea that there really are so many Indonesian nymphomaniacs who just want to have big white c*cks shoved up their a$$es for free seems a little doubtful. Has anyone had any experience with that site?
I would recommend Love Happens however, they are for the most part regular girls and with a little bit of time and patience you can meet up with some great girls, I've had three or four by that route and it's been very rewarding.
Ambassador mall rules. Went up to the 2nd floor passageway and there it was. They have serious variety of sex toys. And a sweet girl there too (I told her I would let her use my new toy if she would give me a discount. She didn't bite). Notably also tried to sell me Vitamin V and cialis. And also some weird thing in abottle (with Chinese writing). My Indonesian is not lancar enough. But she said that you mix it in water and give it to the girl. And 10 minutes later something happens. I was fearful and didn't think about it. But am wondering now. Anyone has a clue?
Thanks everyone. This is truly a convenient discovery.
Ambassador mall rules. Went up to the 2nd floor passageway and there it was. They have serious variety of sex toys. And a sweet girl there too (I told her I would let her use my new toy if she would give me a discount. She didn't bite). Notably also tried to sell me Vitamin V and cialis.
How could I forget that! You´re right! The owner is a Menadonese guy and he has this small shops at both ends of the passageway to and from ITC Kuningan. However I have my doubts about the quality of the Cialis they sell. I bought 4 pills once and none of them served me :(
DORMAN
Nice to see you back! I mentioned the quality of those vitamin C pills in that different Forum. How are you progressing with the stray-pussies-to-be?
What's the score with AFF? I mean they're professionals, right? This might sound incredibly naive but somehow the idea that there really are so many Indonesian nymphomaniacs who just want to have big white c*cks shoved up their a$$es for free seems a little doubtful. Has anyone had any experience with that site?
I would recommend Love Happens however, they are for the most part regular girls and with a little bit of time and patience you can meet up with some great girls, I've had three or four by that route and it's been very rewarding.I've never tried Love Happens, but from what you say it sounds very much like AFF. There are very very few professionals on AFF and those that do trade there are pretty obvious. The codeword is "generous": those looking for "generous" guys are usually looking to be fucked for cash.
Much has been written on this site about "freebies". Well most girls on AFF are freebies in the sense that they are not going to ask you for a fee. But they're mostly hoping for a little material gain out of the relationship. It could be just taxi money, or it's that they're hoping to go to the kind of places (discos, restaurants, bars etc etc) that they couldn't possibly afford themselves. You know the story. Ranges from out and out gold diggers to simple office girls looking for some fun. They want some "jalan jalan" fun and they want to fucked by someone exotic who doesn't treat them like shit.
I've fucked so many sweet fucklets through AFF and most are looking for something like this. And some are hoping for the man of their dreams to appear. There's a sub-culture of girls in Jakarta who only ever fuck bules because they've got the cash, the status and because "they know how to treat a lady". Many have told me how they got sick of fucking Indon guys because the Indons act like spoilt sultans and know nothing about how to pleasure a woman (stick it in and cum.).
They also like bules because they have no family connections that start gossip about their fucking around. With Indon guys, the story usually gets out, their parents hear about it, and they're in the shit. With bules you can be anonymous. And well fed and well fucked.
With bules you can be anonymous...
Actually, any indonesian girl seen with a bule is normally immediately branded as a girl of ill repute. I doubt being anonymous has much to do with it unless you are having these girls go directly to your hotel room without going out in public with them.
unless you are having these girls go directly to your hotel room without going out in public with them.
Usually thats exactly my way, also last weekend in JKT.
Several messages in the taxi from the airport, some final txt after check-in with room number and the weekend is going. Some money change hands in the room, the girl comes and leaves alone.
For dinner and some drinks I prefer to go alone, same as for breakfast.
It's fine with the ladies, at least for the girls I am with.
Cheers!
I've never tried Love Happens, but from what you say it sounds very much like AFF. There are very very be fucked for cash.
Much has been written on this site about "freebies". Well most girls on AFF are freebies in the sense that they are not going to ask you for a fee. But they're mostly hoping for a little material gain out of the relationship. It could be just taxi money, or it's that they're hoping to go to the kind of places (discos, restaurants, bars etc etc) that they couldn't possibly afford themselves. You know the story....ranges from out and out gold diggers to simple office girls looking for some fun. They want some "jalan jalan" fun and they want to fucked by someone exotic who doesn't treat them like shit.
I've fucked so many sweet fucklets through AFF and most are looking for something like this. And some are hoping for the man of their dreams to appear. There's a sub-culture of girls in Jakarta who only ever fuck bules because they've got the cash, the status and because "they know how to treat a lady". Many have told me how they got sick of fucking Indon guys because the Indons act like spoilt sultans and know nothing about how to pleasure a woman (stick it in and cum...).
They also like bules because they have no family connections that start gossip about their fucking around. With Indon guys, the story usually gets out, their parents hear about it, and they're in the shit. With bules you can be anonymous...and well fed and well fucked.Mangga,
Question for you regarding AFF:
Apart from the chicks with the "generous" passcode, are the other ones almost guaranteed fucks or what? Certainly the pictures are pretty graphic so the impression I have is that they are really looking for a shag hence it's almost guaranteed fuck.
Am I correct or wrong?
Thanks,
How are you progressing with the stray-pussies-to-be?Not much to report on that front, I'm involved with one or two ladies I met on the 'net (see below) and given that my time is limited I have to stick to the certainties and as you know those other ladies are far from that (at least the ones I am interested in). Maybe see you again when you're back in town.
Mangga,
Question for you regarding AFF:
Apart from the chicks with the "generous" passcode, are the other ones almost guaranteed fucks or what? Certainly the pictures are pretty graphic so the impression I have is that they are really looking for a shag hence it's almost guaranteed fuck.
Am I correct or wrong?
Thanks,
Mandiri,
It all depends.... You need to read each girl's profile and read between the lines.
Some girls are are just total fuck bunnies who will say as much in their profiles - 100% certainty of a fuck. I've had plenty of fucklets who will come to your door after one or two email/text exchanges. You fuck them stupid, they leave and you never see them again.
At the other extreme are those looking for steady boyfriends or even husbands and will only fuck one guy after a lot of picking and choosing. You can usually tell from their profile. I've made contact with one or two like that, but never got beyond a few text exchanges because it was clear we weren't looking for the same thing.
Then there are the hundreds in between that are looking for some combination of sexual frolics, a good time/good night out and a connection or relationship of some kind. The chances of a fuck with the girlies in this category is pretty close to 100%, but they may take a bit of time and effort to woo. But not a lot.... I can't think of many that I haven't fucked in the first meeting. The wooing usually only has to happen by email and/or text.
With girlies like this it pretty much up to you what happens next. I've had plenty of sweeties who I've fucked a few times, then decided to end it at that. Others have been continuing friendships/fuckships that have lasted a long time. I even seriously considered tying the knot with one, and met her family etc...until sanity prevailed. I've really struck gold recently, because I hooked up with a girl who not only fucked me but has continued to pass on horny sex bunnies to me who want to bedded by a bule. But that only happened after three years of playing on the site.
Which brings me to the final, and critical, point.....time. AFF takes time. It's not like going to Blok M or Kota, drooling over some 18 year old, waving to her and taking her away to fuck. The ratio of guys to girls on AFF must 10 to 1 at best. That means that a young attractive fucklet with photos of herself with legs spread sucking some bule's cock is going to get about a million messages a day.
You have to send a lot of messages and put some effort in. Lots of girls tell me they get so bored with fat bules who send messages like "Hi, wanna meet for a good time?". They delete a hundred a day like that.
So AFF is good for resident bules or visitors who do their homework before they come. If your time is limited, or you just can't be bothered with wooing, go to Blok M or Kota and you'll get what you want. And it could even be cheaper than a "freebie" in the long run. Ya pays ya money and ya takes ya choice....
And you have to be a paying member of AFF, because the girls sure won't be. The girls won't come to you, you have to seek them out.
Mangga,
Question for you regarding AFF:
Apart from the chicks with the "generous" passcode, are the other ones almost guaranteed fucks or what? Certainly the pictures are pretty graphic so the impression I have is that they are really looking for a shag hence it's almost guaranteed fuck.
Am I correct or wrong?
Thanks,
Sorry if the preceding essay was too long. To cut a long story short - if you manage to get a AFF girlie to meet you somewhere, you've almost got her in bed. If you get her across the threshold of your apartment or hotel make sure you've got condoms in the bedside drawer....
FreeStyler69
07-13-07, 05:00
It's not a KTV but just dance club.
The rich sit and drink with the girls in Bikini.... Music very loud though....
Place is somewhere in Permata Hijia...
CheersRaiman,
Pls elborate further if you don't mind. Sounds like my kinda place, or if you could provide tel no of the club would be helpful.
Sorry if the preceding essay was too long. To cut a long story short - if you manage to get a AFF girlie to meet you somewhere, you've almost got her in bed. If you get her across the threshold of your apartment or hotel make sure you've got condoms in the bedside drawer....Thanks a lot Mangga ! Very useful info. There's so many good free dating sites out there, I am not sure I want to pay for the AFF services (about 60USD for 3 months it seems). Anyway, good to know this option.
Cheers !
Seems to be "the rich executive club" in permata hijau. Just open.
Morepoonhound
07-13-07, 12:33
High shag probabilities
It all depends.... You need to read each girl's profile and read between the lines.
Then there are the hundreds in between that are looking for some combination of sexual frolics, a good time/good night out and a connection or relationship of some kind. The chances of a fuck with the girlies in this category is pretty close to 100%, but they may take a bit of time and effort to woo. But not a lot.... I can't think of many that I haven't fucked in the first meeting. The wooing usually only has to happen by email and/or text.
You have to send a lot of messages and put some effort in. Lots of girls tell me they get so bored with fat bules who send messages like "Hi, wanna meet for a good time?". They delete a hundred a day like that.
Mangga
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I have done the BATS, Tiga-puloh, CJ's circuit as well as D's and MyBar, plus Maribaya and Kartika/Berlian - all many times. But for me, AFF is a better experience. Nothing wrong with pulling in the pay-for-play places, but there are literally dozens of women available on AFF for virtually any age-group.
Mangga obviously has an advanced degree in AFF-shagging. The one thing that I can add to his already excellent report is to think of AFF like a pick-up bar in North America. Everyone knows what is going on there - the women and the men are hoping to meet that special someone who will rock their world.
But you still have to play the game - be polite, show interest, make conversation. On AFF, you do that on email for the most part. But just like in the pick-up bar, if your opening line is "Hey hot-stuff, wanna fuck?", then you won't do very well.
Many AFF ladies have told me that 80-90% of the guys who write to them are obviously assholes. Just be decent and nice, and you will stand out - and the benefits are absolutely wonderful.
Thanks for a great tutorial, Mangga.
Adam C Day
07-13-07, 14:17
Ambassador mall rules. Went up to the 2nd floor passageway and there it was. They have serious variety of sex toys. And a sweet girl there too (I told her I would let her use my new toy if she would give me a discount. She didn't bite). Notably also tried to sell me Vitamin V and cialis. And also some weird thing in abottle (with Chinese writing). My Indonesian is not lancar enough. But she said that you mix it in water and give it to the girl. And 10 minutes later something happens. I was fearful and didn't think about it. But am wondering now. Anyone has a clue?
Thanks everyone. This is truly a convenient discovery.I think the thing you mix in a drink is some sort of aphrodisiac for ladies. 10 minutes later, they become wet and horny with no stimuli. Not really worth buying as indo ladies quickly get horny with just a bit of stimuli almost anywhere on the body and it seems most prefer their breasts fondled. The sweet girl may be the same one that offered me lots of sex toys and even agreed to go out if I bought more stuff.
Sorry if the preceding essay was too long. To cut a long story short - if you manage to get a AFF girlie to meet you somewhere, you've almost got her in bed. If you get her across the threshold of your apartment or hotel make sure you've got condoms in the bedside drawer....It could not have been written better. I totaly agree with this and the previous mail, written by Mangga.
I joined this site, about 2 months ago. In this time, I met about 12 women. Still about 6 phone numbers on my moblie, from girls which I didn't meet yet. But still working on it, hehehe.
You realy gotta work for it. The more patient and polite you are the better. The first 2-3 mails I exchange with the girls, I don't mentioned anything about sex, or asking for their phone number. I wait till they give their numbers by themself. If they do so, according to my experience, you are in. I haven't paid a girl anything yet. I asked about 4 of them if I can take care of the "taxi". They furiously refused.
And most of the time, you have to write to the girl first. Just a few will contact you, by themself. I put a pic of mine there. A face pic. Every girl tells me, that that was the plus point. Most of the guys put a dick pic in. Not sure about their success rate. But I guess the bigger, the better, hehehe. Of course you can also create a profile without any pic
One funny thing happened to me. Seen a girl on cam, showing off her huge tits. Her face was not visible. And no pic in her profile. Wrote her a mail. She answers, knowing my name, telling me that she is a friend of mine. I keep asking her who she is, she wouldn't tell. :.)
AFF is somehow funny. If you wanna be anonymous on there, just watch out a bit.
Just a few words, without wanting to "show my success". (Sure you guys know what I mean)
Regards, Sabbath
Hi Ebo, hehehehe
A couple of weeks I was at Changi airport and I bumped into a pro who used to hang out almost every night at CJ's. Though we have not shagged, she recognizes me -- and so do I-- and we say Hi to each other. She tells me that she's been working (ie freelancing) here in Singapore for a while.
Last Friday, I bump into her at CJ's ! We have a short chat and she brags about the 8,000 SING (more or less 5,000USD) she made while in Singapore for about a month of shagging guys. Her number looks a bit on the high side but hey whatever, that's not the point.
I then go and chat with another freelancer who recently took my fancy (though we have not yet shagged, I just chit chat with her while at CJ's) and she is telling me she wants to go to Singapore every once in a while spend a few weeks, come back to JKT, then back to Singapore etc. She then asks me about typical prices to rent a place or cheap hotels in Singapore.
Looks to me like the first chick aforementioned is spreading the news at CJ''s that it is possible to make 5,000 USD per month being porked in Singapore and that is creating quite a bit of noise in the CJ freelance community.
I thought I would report this as a fun anecdote. There will be new batches of Indo's in Sing soon!
Cheers, and happy shagging!
Similar to what I posted about a week prior. In that case, Rani, asked me for S200 and was pretty adamant about it (despite my chuckle). She also mentioned her rented room cost S50 per day. So if we assume she works OT every day of the week, and also manages to snag 2 customers per night, that's still under S5000 not counting food/phone/ or even the $12 glass of juice in the bar.
Unless the girl is stunning, I can't see a steady hit rate of 2 per night, but I could be wrong. From observation, there are just too many girls and not enough guys in OT.
EDIT: After catching up and seeing that others already opined on this, I can understand larger volumes at Geylang, but not OT. The time it takes hooking up with a bule who agrees to your price and then takes you back to some hotel, then get back to repeat the process would take too long, especially on weeknights when most bules need to get to work in the mornings.
Mighty Spearsman
07-13-07, 19:39
I'm with you, another fan of Kartika, however I have mentioned this in the past but never received a reply. Apart from Kartika and Berlian I believe there are several other MPs in the lanes behind these spa's closer to the Stadium Nightclub. The names are Hawai Massage, Melinda massage, Tin Tin Massage and Maharaja Massage. Have you ever tried these? I would be very interested in anyones comments.
I actually spent parts of two afternoons recently wandering around the side alleys between Kartika/Berlian and Stadium.
The first afternoon it was around 5 p.m., however I had just finished a nice session with Ina at Berlian, so I wasn't interested in another session, just doing some research. Most of the MPs on these side streets are not worth the time to walk there, as the girls are often over 35, fat and ugly. Many of them have a front room where the girls' photos are displayed on a desk, but in each of those cases only around 10 girls are on duty, even though there might be photos of 40 - 50 girls on the desk. Most times, the girls were lounging on sofas in the same room, so there wasn't much point in looking at the photos, since the girls don't look much like their photo anyway.
I did walk into the Maharadjah and found an attractive early-20s girl there, so I asked her for her name (Ria) and filed it away in my brain for future use. But there wasn't much else worth looking at.
A week later, I went back to the Maharadjah around 3 p.m. to hook up with Ria. She was not working that day (time of the month?), so I wandered in and out of some of the other MPs - Tin-Tin, Meksiko, etc. but there were very few girls on duty, and most were over 35 - maybe it was too early in the afternoon? That's the day that I ended up having the session with Dian at the Royal Mas.
One somewhat-scarey moment: during my second walk-around, after stopping at the Maharadjah, I walked into an MP named "Ibu Linda." Again, you walk through the door and enter a room that is not a bar, just a room with two Chinese guys behind the desk on the left (where the girls' photos are) and around 8 girls on duty, sitting on sofas on the right. Again, most of the girls were over the hill, but there was one girl on duty who was fairly attractive and who looked to be around 23 years old.
I asked about her and one of the Chinese guys pointed to her picture on the desk, then said "yes, very nice girl, you like?" and motioned for her to stand up and come over. But the girl had this scared look on her face, certainly didn't seem excited about the prospect of being with me, so I said "No thanks, that's ok" and started walking out the door. The Chinese guy got angry and started yelling at me, then he came from behind the desk and started walking after me, looking as if he might hit me. Needless to say, I walked quickly out the door, and won't be back.
In retrospect, he probably wasn't going to hit me, but he sure looked pissed, and you never know what might happen. And this was a "first" for me at a Jakarta MP; up until then I had never been hassled if I had decided to walk out of an MP without picking a girl.
In summary, IMHO there isn't much available in the MPs in the other alleys near Kartika/Berlian, although a hidden gem can always be discovered. But I feel that one would be better off to go to Kartika, or else some of the PanJay MPs (Sari Ayu, MTR) or Hotel Travel, etc. And I still think that Maribaya Spa (Hotel Melawai 6th floor) in Blok M has the highest percentage of decent-looking girls of any MP in Jakarta.
Actually, any indonesian girl seen with a bule is normally immediately branded as a girl of ill repute. I doubt being anonymous has much to do with it unless you are having these girls go directly to your hotel room without going out in public with them.
I beg to differ Smoothy. In my experience there are many Indon girlies who like fucking bules because they aren't part of their family and local community networks and so can't spread gossip about them.
Yes you're right that an Indonesian girl and bule guy together always attract attention and assumptions on the street or wherever (we've all experienced that...) But if she lives in Tangerang or Bekasi or somewhere and you're out together in Thamrin it doesn't really matter.
But wherever she goes with a local guy, he or his mates are going to brag about it to someone and then the news is out....bad girl! So many girlies still live with their parents (even in their 30s) and they have the eyes of the whole RT (neighbourhood) on them. I've been to many homes of average lower middle class families and you can't fart without some neighbour hearing you. Bules are a way to escape all that for a night or two.
All said in a spirit of scientific inquiry. Applied Sociology 101.
I also add these comments because there are some mongers (not meaning you Smoothy) who look down on the very girlies they love to fuck. Most girls who are "bule gila" (crazy on westerners) are just looking for a break from their very restricted lives....and maybe find the man of their dreams in the process. There's the tank top and miniskirt brigade who might as well have a sign across their tits saying "fuck me". But there are also so many sweet and demure office girls who look as though they've barely held hands with a guy. But when you get them behind closed doors, your cock slips in their mouth, they give you an expert blow-job and they break out like porn stars. And I'm very glad to help them...big grin...
Sorry if the preceding essay was too long. To cut a long story short - if you manage to get a AFF girlie to meet you somewhere, you've almost got her in bed. If you get her across the threshold of your apartment or hotel make sure you've got condoms in the bedside drawer....Mangga and others,
Any experience with AFF in Singapore and Kuala Lumpur ? Is it the same experience/success ratio/scenario's per Dr Mangga's account of AFF Indo, or is it different ?
Cheers
Tamurlane26
07-14-07, 15:58
Read with a wry sense of amusement on the issues of Singapore this week. Have been running into the CJ's crowd in Singapore recently and they shack up 4 to a room keep the costs as low as possible fly in on Tiger Airways or other budget airlines and try and score 200 SGD per night. Sometimes in OT they are luckier and hit the jackpot and then again not but overall the numbers mentioned are on the high side as we forget the amount of shopping they like to do !
There is a clique led by Jenny - Monica and Arin who now have given up the pretence of day jobs in Jakarta and head off regularly to Singapore to ply their trade. One argument is that if they are continuously seen in CJ's then they see that their market value diminishes - a smart answer that one !
As for the anonymous ladies am in total agreement - there are often a lot of posts here whereby some writers seem to openly scorn the ones who provide them with entertainment. The economics you have hit on the head and also the dynamics - why go out with someone from the "hood" who will simply bang you for free or at least much cheaper than the nice bule will pay - then brag to all his mates and leave you high and dry once the deed is done. They are looking for escapism as much as we are in the opposite direction.
Those who have recognised this and there are many who write along those lines are having a much better time than those who believe that paying low is their prerogative as the Indonesians are a lesser life form.
Having said that please continue to do so because this means that those who do invest a little time and effort are the recipients as mentioned of their ability to do all and sundry in the short or long time that they are disappearing beneath the sheets in your hotel room !
Happy Weekending to all
Member #4351
07-14-07, 16:26
I know this has been touched upon previously, yes I did do a search. I really screwed up big time, and cashed in a bunch of miles and have my Cathay Pacific tickets in hand. As an afterthought, I thought I´d check when Ramadan falls this year. It starts the day I leave Peru and ends a few days after I leave Jakarta. So there is no way I can be in Jakarta without Ramadan even changing around my itinerary and stops in other countries. Should I pay the penalties hope that I can still find seats and change my ticket, (although since I have to be in Calif. the weekend of Oct. 12 on my way back to Lima this possibility would necesitate a major trip re-working), or with the help of forum members and JAD can I still really enjoy myself during my 10 days in Jakarta during the month of fasting?
You can still have fun during Ramadan, but not as much. During Ramadan, the girls are desperate for money so home delivery is easier to find. That being said, I now try to make it a practice to be out of Indonesia the entire month of Ramadan. The negatives outweigh the positives in my opinion.
Member #4351
07-14-07, 17:06
That´s the feeling I got when reading the other posts regarding this situation. But is it worth the hassle of canceling the trip? I only need one girl a day since I´m not a stud like Menteng or the Mighty Spearsman. I also prefer action in my hotel to going to discos, etc., although it would be nice to see some night time action.
No problem getting one girl a day or even two or three even during Ramadan. The only days that can get problematic are the Idul Fitri (end of Ramadan) because of the traffic jams, the city comes to a standstill. There are more girls in shopping malls during Ramadan than during the rest of the year because some of the pros fall back on the shopping malls, their MPs being closed. I now avoid Ramadan but my second JKT trip was during Ramadan. I had no problem finding girls, what pissed me off was that Stadium disco (with its Xstasy) were not available. You will, of course, miss the night spots apart from Bats and CJ's, as well as the brothels where you have as much girls at your disposal than a Sultan ever had, but, as you say, who needs that?
During Ramadan, the girls are desperate for money so home delivery is easier to find. True for freelances, however some touts (the "papasans" around hotels) know girls are not in such big supply as in normal times and they quote higher prices.
Only one tenth of what's there is available during Ramadan, but even one tenth of JKT is a great deal!
Of course, if it's a one-off trip to JKT, never or unlikely to be repeated, I would pospone. It would be such a pity to have known JKT only in its Ramadan version!
Read with a wry sense of amusement on the issues of Singapore this week. Have been running into the CJ's crowd in Singapore recently and they shack up 4 to a room keep the costs as low as possible fly in on Tiger Airways or other budget airlines and try and score 200 SGD per night. Sometimes in OT they are luckier and hit the jackpot and then again not but overall the numbers mentioned are on the high side as we forget the amount of shopping they like to do !
There is a clique led by Jenny - Monica and Arin who now have given up the pretence of day jobs in Jakarta and head off regularly to Singapore to ply their trade. One argument is that if they are continuously seen in CJ's then they see that their market value diminishes - a smart answer that one !
Happy Weekending to allFunny that you mention this Arin chick: the one with the massive boobs, pretty short, who claimed to work in a costmetics corner in a mall in JKT, huh ?! I see her often at Insomnia in Chijmes. It's really a small world.
Travel Fox
07-15-07, 01:18
hi everyone. quick, first time, 4-day trip and here is my report.
thailand is seeing less and less of me these days. started out in bangkok and had to make a connection in singapore. air asia and then jet star from sin. downside of this method, you are not able to use the xfer desk at sin. you must clear immigration and customs and go through landside check in. give your self a 3-hour layover to do all of this… upside, $300 roundtrip tickets all in, bought online about 3 weeks before travel.
arrival
i kind of felt the same way as in the past on arrival in the dominican republic and in the philippines. it was “uh-oh, oh-no” all the way from the gate at the airport and thru the taxi ride into the city. not an open arms feeling like either of bkks airports. you must buy a visa on arrival for those that have that option. you will see this booth about halfway from gate to immigration. i saw it on the right hand side of the long walkway from the gates to immigration. $10 for 7 days and $25 i believe for 30 days. headed straight for kaha and then the blue bird counter after customs. i have learned in the past, “you have to go with a name you can quickly trust”. there will be other counters but deal with these guys on your first trip. get a hotel in the $400,000 range and above if you can afford it. even if it stretches you, get that range of hotel. hotel comfort is important to me and while my hotel was good, my thank you letter would read like this… oasis amir, “i had a great stay at your hotel and you made my trip great in every way… except for the roaches…”. a little fumigation would turn that into a really good hotel. $340,000 with breakfast at the oasis amir from kaha. i skipped breakfast… however cannot really complain, well ok, just a little. centrally located for…… mall hunting!
atrium mall
ok, here is my take on atrium mall. there are not that many on the game at atrium to begin with, but enough… 1-5pm is definitely prime time. you can get lucky after that time but less likely before. i find girls will sometimes hang over the railing by the circle over the amusement rides but i did not find many doing that. security will definitely post up over by that circle so i started to avoid that circle. maybe that is why the girls seemed to be less over there. they will also be anywhere along the railing throughout the mall. security was on to my shenanigans pretty quickly but left me alone. a hot spot is the little “bridge” that has seating for various coffee shops on different levels in the mall. it is right in the middle of the mall on every floor except the main floor of course. the girls/women sitting there are a 75% probability on the game. you can pull shop attendants and the department store cuties in atrium but i always feel funny about talking to chix at their jobs. shop girls are more time necessary than i had to spare but worthwhile if you are there for 1 week or more, go for it.
the mo seems to be heavy eye contact. that is, stare hard at anything you fancy and read the returning signals. then try to follow her a little or if stationary start subtly gesturing that you want to sit down or start off to the hotel. then, out into a cab or walk to the oasis hotel, oasis apartments or atrium hotel. simple as that (walk separately if necessary). the key is eye contact and being quick on your feet. it is not easy but it definitely is not hard… i snagged a sweet 20 year old dark skinned honey with no children and had a really good time with her. lets just say i never knew the salad course would last so long and i now find myself asking ladies if they like to do “cat bath”. wow, she was a little tiger. not an ounce of body fat. sent her into spasms with my tongue and it was one of the best sessions ever, $220,000 and taxi.
girls will be hanging out on the lane between the atrium/citibank entrance and the oasis amir. from about dusk to 10p or so (mall closes at 9). there will only be about 3-10 ladies in total but worth a look. quality ranged (both in mall and out on lane) from “absolutely not” (most) to “wow she is really cute” (anomaly). i took a cutie from the lane with the best tits ever. i was looking around her armpits and under her breast for the scar. a very full b or early c that just looked too good to be true. decently cute $200,000 plus taxi. only ok session though. prices for these ladies should range from $150,000 to $280,000 st tops for the anomaly category. i don’t really feel an overnight option is normal. seems most are on the st game. i also pulled another girl with no english who was walking on the dirt path next to the amir. we shook our heads and said yes and then up to the room in minutes. she balked when i handed her money after a 2-hour session so there may be freebies to be had i guess. however, she did not hand back the money…
today country
wow, loved this place. yes it’s dark and yes it’s real loud and confusing but there were some cuties in this place and there are so many of them. surreal, i mean one of those moments i live for. few guys from the west get to see something this crazy. speaking of “west” there is a usa western theme to this place, which was hilarious. $20,000 entry, which entitles you to a low level drink. band and dancing girl shows intermittently. some mamasaan will latch on to you and start shoving cuties in your lap. definitely reject the ones that obviously don’t want to be with you. carry a pen flashlight. i made chix agree adamantly to go with me before i committed. had 2 very good sessions on 2 different occasions with 2 very willing cuties. $250,000 before hand and then at least $50,000 to the girl. one girl started crying, “contract, contract” after the deed and tip. i remember she was at the edge of the bed and i was hitting it in the stand up position with her lying back on the bed. her hair kind of sprawled out onto the bed like a pert or maybelline (sp?) commercial. very beautiful, so i gave her a bit more but i knew they were crocodile tears. tip the mommy $20,000 also. one girl in tc had on an authentic “price is right” shirt on. you know the game show with bob barker? that tickled me to death for some reason. where did she get that? i’ll bet she never even had the opportunity to watch that game show on tv. the shirt made her all that more attractive. “the price is right” yeah, i bet. never tried her though.
today country is located in lokasari mall. just get a taxi to lokasari and go towards the pinkish (?) colored hotel. you make a left then a right or something like that after the main gate then the hotel opens up at you. this is a strip type of mall like winding strip malls in the usa so think in those terms and directions will be clearer. lokasari is not a 5-story mall or anything like that. once you are at the pink looking hotel’s entrance, right by the side is the entrance to today country (all of this is still outside without entering any structure as of yet). go up the stairs either outside using the wood stairs or use the inside stairs (2 options) and alight at the 3rd or 4th floor, it will be kind of obvious.
i believe you can take the busway and then a short walk over. rooms are just ok but like i said i don’t think you can beat this place for the pleathora of cuties you will find within for the price. (i have yet to try mtr or hotel travel)
kartika, berlian etc.
took a walk down these lanes and peeked in several of these establishments but i was somewhat appalled at some of the ladies. i mean, who is taking these ladies? there were a few fresh cuties in a few of the establishments but i was hard pressed to make a decision in any of these places. i wanted to try hotel travel and mtr but never found these places because of nightfall. i mean you can probably have a good time here but i did not see the value over tc. maybe i will try them next time out. these establishments are right off of the busway line so you can get the busway almost right there. i think someone mentioned sawah besar as the busway stop. i just look-see’d all of them but some of the girls did not seem real enthused about their jobs or my presence especially in the smaller places. i think i was at the places off of hyam wuruk. i took mangga besar over (i walked believe it or not from mangga dua mall) to hyam wuruk. i think some guys tried to call me into the lane with the other houses while on mangga besar but i kept going for some reason. you will see a bakery maybe “holland” i don’t remember it saying swiss. it is a tall towering bakery with a sign on it from “some country in europe” on the corner or near the corner of mangga besar and hyam wuruk, or was it mangga dua? you know you are in the region when you see that bakery, then start peeking in alleys…
jl industri 9-11
followed the directions to this place. you can get there with the busway, three stops i believe to the north of the central/senen stop where atrium mall is located. it is definitely right behind the sheraton media that i understand is a great hotel and is in a great location for mongering. behind this hotel is jl industri 9-11. the touts were yelling to me before i fully arrived at the entrance to the carpark. that was funny. i did the rounds and because i had a session before checking this place out i was not interested in sessioning. this place had some nice girls for the prices. i only got a quote from the popular one, which has a pretty nice and somewhat trendy interior (for the venue), of $180,000. i assume the rest will be in the same range. there was this one chubby girl there, titties spilling out of her outfit. i mean cute enough to have it be ok to be a bit chubby, that means pretty cute. however she had a bit of an attitude so i passed. i tried to warm her up with some convo while i sat on the comfy couches with her and sipped a bintang. i would have and could have taken her but i have no time for attitudes. the security guard will still pop up and try to show you around even if you take the stairs to the immediate left of the carpark when you walk in. he was annoying but kept his distance. there are about 7 apartments of this type i assume normally with 3-10 chix. they were a bit drained of talent when i got there. i went at about 8 pm and i felt very safe. i would use this as a 1pm to 8 pm option. definitely an option i will partake next trip with batteries recharged!
blok m
the expat hangouts… you have d’s place (which i hear is going to close soon), top gun and my bar. all are good for their respective plusses. pool table and bands in top gun, dance contest and oldies in d’s and straight wall-to-wall people and dancing with full mirror in my bar. all of this livens up around 10 – 11pm if memory serves correctly and thu, fri and sat are the really active nights. i did not get the mo right away. the girls were a bit more standoffish as apposed to being all over you. do not let that throw you off, you should make your move on whatever you are fancying. of course girls who approach you are more likely to really be into you. the downside is the somewhat western attitude of the girls and the fucking rip off cab drivers outside. has the mafia squeezed blue bird out of that venue or something? i started not to like those guys after awhile…
i stopped off at maribaya spa on the 6th floor of the melawai hotel. it was ok there but i got there really late right before closing one night and there was only one passable cutie there. should be much better in the day but never went back.
i pulled the cutest girl of my life and the best fuck of my life (both, arguably) from top gun. holy shit this girl was all that and a bag of trail mix. i never thought you could roll those two qualities into one but she was fucking it! she got on top and i swear there was a battery in her back… wow she really rocked my world and being the last girl i was with before i left the country she was the “stamp of approval” i needed to make this a definite stop in the sea rotation in the future.
girls in comparison
well jakarta does not top bangkok if you will compare the two, as a vacation venue. what it does have are some totally awesome cuties who surprisingly enough will fuck your brains out. i found a couple of real troopers and no one experience was “bad”. looks wise i think they are really cute! i think girl for girl they may have the thais though the stunningly beautiful edge would go to thailand. but how accessible are those stunners in thailand? point to ponder… so i might tool around thailand for a bit but i will definitely be getting jakarta in. i might even try bali now that i have been to jakarta.
food, extras etc.
ate at established places only and the food was really good! if you stick to the eateries in the mall that have chains in various places then you can’t really go wrong. if its trendy looking and clean with several chain locations, go for it! i ate at a trendy place with a nice pineapple shake along with some spicy fried rice and some gyoza in atrium on i think the 3rd floor. right by the escalator going down from the grocery store side of atrium. food of very good quality and really cute tout in front of the restaurant. i ate at these places and at popeye’s in mangga dua. quality same or better than your average popeye’s in the states. asian rain i swear we are related somehow!
mangga dua mall does by the way have dvds of excellent quality for 6,000 rupiah. and there is another shop like that in another mall i came across when walking from mangga dua mall. they gave one free for every 10 and they were 5000 rp each! it is a somewhat well known mall i believe on mangga dua but near hyam wuruk, i forget the name.
take the busway whenever possible. beats the taxi and traffic game, which can be two separate games. the busway runs til 10pm. get a map and study it, after your first ride it is cake.
optimal day
wake up hopefully by 12p, shower shave etc. on to atrium for lunch and possible pick up at the mall or onto kota for some tc, tender (loving) care at today country. out of kota by dusk and back to atrium mall for more food and a possible pick up in mall or out on lane. depending on how that goes, maybe a swing by jl industri for shits and giggles, then back to hotel and then on to blok m for evening takeout. oasis amir being centrally located was perfect for that type of itinerary. however will be investigating the oasis amir apartments or atrium hotel next.
busway busway busway! the only cab you will ever really need following this mo (if you are willing to walk a block or two from time to time) is on the way back from blok m.
practicalities
very third world (imho). i almost left after the first day because of this. it was actually because i overslept that i stayed. from that point on i really decided the trip was definitely getting better with every day and every new venture of mine. you have to tolerate several things from the language barrier to not being able to comfortably “sport” your cutie around. it is not thailand that is for sure. but that is good in a roundabout sort of way! not heavily touristed and you do have many options most which i have not explored. there is still more stuff for me to locate out there. just don’t go looking for any sort of vacation like thailand.
travelfox
Just don’t go looking for any sort of vacation like Thailand.
That's very true. If I were going somewhere for a 1 or 2 week vacation, I'd take Thailand over Indonesia every time. Indonesia is good for us guys who live here, but it's not anywhere near as convenient for tourists as Thailand. There's actually quite little to do in the day. It used to be that Indonesia was cheap, but not anymore. The prices of everything have gone way up in Indonesia the last 5 years. Especially taxis! You mention to take the busway all the time, but that only takes you so far. For example, you can't take the busway to a place like Kelapa Gading, and to take a taxi there will cost you the equivalent of about 200 baht one way. Thailand is more expensive than it used to be due to the baht being so strong right now. But transportation is still dirt cheap and more convenient in Thailand.
It used to be that you could take a girl home all night in Jakarta for 200,000. That was the going rate and the girls were quite happy with that. Now it's more like 500,000. In that same time frame, the price in Thailand in thai baht really hasn't gone up much. For the guys looking for really cheap action, Angeles City is the way to go these days. It's about 1/2 the price of Jakarta now.
As far as TC, I hate that place but many do like it. I personally find it impossible to enjoy myself in that environment. Sure there are girls there, but there are girls in many other places where it's not pitch black and loud as all heck. Your comment that you have to bring a pen flashlight is spot on. As mentioned, the place is pitch black. I went there once with my brother and he was making out with this chick the mama san brought to him. I yelled in his ear (I had to yell since it's deafening loud in there as well) "don't make out with her yet, you dont even know what she looks like", to which he replied "she feels good! how bad can she be?". I then went out to the mall, bought a pen flashlight and came back in. I shined it in her face and she was about the ugliest mutt either of us had ever seen. My brother all of a sudden felt ill and wanted to leave. LOL!
As far as those Price is Right t shirts, they are selling those all over town in the cheap clothing shops. They have other similar slogans as well from old game shows and tv shows from the usa. I was in the elevator in my apartment complex a while ago and one of the maids was wearing a jilbab (the muslim head wear) and a shirt that said "i'm here about the blow job". She couldn't speak a word of english. I doubt she even knew what it meant. I'm guessing her bule boss gave it to her as a joke. But that shirt wasn't purchased in Indonesia!
Travel Fox
07-18-07, 00:56
Thailand is great but a bit over touristed. Along with Pattaya, which for its upsides has many downsides also. I liked Jakarta I just think you need to get out and about to fully appreciate it and not scare yourself away like I almost did. Bali can possibly be similar to Pattaya I assume and hopefully many of the downsides of Pattaya are eliminated or reduced there.
The girls are great. They are great actresses also as someone pointed out previously. I liked them and when they are comfortable with you it can mean a really good time. Like I said I had some memorable hook ups there and the whole vibe, once I got used to it, was really good.
The Oasis Amir. I have to give them a fairer shake. I needed a sanctuary and Oasis Amir was that, it is just that there were a few roaches. It is not infested but watching a few crawl out when you are with a really fine girl kind of dampens the mood (I like to play-date). Maybe I got stuck with a bad room. It was a really good hotel otherwise, Blue Bird on standby, all your favorite things close by. So I don't mean to dump on the Oasis.
Today Country is ok, I am very used to loud music and am a maybe slightly younger than the average monger in there. Though being close to a loudspeaker at Top Gun almost deafened me. As a tourist the loud music kind of goes with the territory in strange environments, as an expat I can see how it can get annoying. Maybe I was there on a good day, there were so many ladies and I had a good time there. I thought they were exceptionally cute though not very sophisticated. I also liked watching the band and the cuties doing the dancing shows...
I think MTR and Hotel Travel may have some potential from what I hear. Kartika was ok but I was just not into the layout or most of the ladies. There were some gems in some of the shops on that lane but I just was not into their setups.
You can buy Viagra Cialis and other stuff from the little cart vendors you will find outside of Lokasari. Exit Lokasari, make a left and you will see the carts after about a half a block, over by the street. They offered me stuff but I would show them my pack of Kamagra bought out in Thailand and we would have a laugh. Don't know how well this stuff works but in a pinch you can try these carts out.
The Price is Right... Just one of those surreal moments in Asia, in a place like that, with the wait staff dressed as pizza parlor cowboys, two girls in western hats dancing a jig (one really cute too) and some female sitting across from you with a Price is Right shirt on...
Travelfox
Will be in Jakarta tomorrow night. Since no time to read all bros thread.
May proceed to contact Don service or Qibye - Tropical Spa.
Unless there are better option.
Seems to be "the rich executive club" in permata hijau. Just open.Heys,
I'm thinking about going Jakarta again next month for a long trip.. Where is this permata hijau? Any nice cheap hotels near this place? Is it near Senayan area?
Ex
I am very interested in the other posters who have used AFF and have described it in terms of a regular dating site, I have to say that has very much not been my experience.
I have used the Love Happens site and found that to be similar to how AFF is being described here; ordinary girls who are looking to meet friends or long term partners, some susceptible to a little subtle flirting which can lead to happy rewards but on the whole most are looking for some commitment. AFF on the other hand is a very different story. For a start have a look at the pictures the girls post, these ain't regular snapshots but often quite explicit porno shots (yes I know not all the photos are of the actual girls) it intrigues me why anyone would have to approach the idea of sex obliquely with a girl who posts pictures of her (alleged) pussy or tits on the internet and publishes perfectly frank profiles of her sexual desires and fantasies.
In the first week of joining I have accumulated a dozen "friends" all of whom responded to my simple "Hi wanna meet up" approach without any problem. I have arranged a couple of dates and the expectation of sex is absolutely explicit, Christ I've even had approaches from two blokes who want me to shag their wives!
I don't for one second doubt the accounts provided by other members but I have to say I think you're wasting alot of time gently wooing these girls, they're already up for it lads.
[Disclaimer: I have no commercial connection with either of the sites mentioned above]
Hello fellow members,
I'm visiting Jakarta next week and hope to get some good chicks to bang.
If anyone can help me how to go about, pls pm me.
I sincerely appreciate your asisstance. Thanks a lot.
Crazyfish68
07-19-07, 16:55
I am very interested in the other posters who have used AFF and have described it in terms of a regular dating site, I have to say that has very much not been my experience.
I have used the Love Happens site and found that to be similar to how AFF is being described here; ordinary girls who are looking to meet friends or long term partners, some susceptible to a little subtle flirting which can lead to happy rewards but on the whole most are looking for some commitment. AFF on the other hand is a very different story. For a start have a look at the pictures the girls post, these ain't regular snapshots but often quite explicit porno shots (yes I know not all the photos are of the actual girls) it intrigues me why anyone would have to approach the idea of sex obliquely with a girl who posts pictures of her (alleged) pussy or tits on the internet and publishes perfectly frank profiles of her sexual desires and fantasies.
In the first week of joining I have accumulated a dozen "friends" all of whom responded to my simple "Hi wanna meet up" approach without any problem. I have arranged a couple of dates and the expectation of sex is absolutely explicit, Christ I've even had approaches from two blokes who want me to shag their wives!
I don't for one second doubt the accounts provided by other members but I have to say I think you're wasting alot of time gently wooing these girls, they're already up for it lads.
[Disclaimer: I have no commercial connection with either of the sites mentioned above]I completely agree with Dorman. Sorry friends for my long silence, but I had to solve some private matters, but now I'm back.
My experience with AFF is also pretty, let's say, poor. First they want you to subscribe for "free", but as soon as you want to contact or have more infos about the ladies they ask you to join their memebership.
I did not join due to the following considerations: Hmmm, let's see, a 3 months gold memebership costs you 59. 95 US$, which is equivalent to about 2 visits to Kartika or Berlian, 1. 867 visits to Maribaya, 0. 585 visits to upscale places like Beverly Hill, Alexis or Sumo. Considering that in the end our goal is to drown the "biscuit" into the "cup" not really worth it, no?
Cheers, CF68
Morepoonhound
07-19-07, 17:27
I am very interested in the other posters who have used AFF and have described it in terms of a regular dating site, I have to say that has very much not been my experience.
I have used the Love Happens site and found that to be similar to how AFF is being described here; ordinary girls who are looking to meet friends or long term partners, some susceptible to a little subtle flirting which can lead to happy rewards but on the whole most are looking for some commitment. AFF on the other hand is a very different story. For a start have a look at the pictures the girls post, these ain't regular snapshots but often quite explicit porno shots (yes I know not all the photos are of the actual girls) it intrigues me why anyone would have to approach the idea of sex obliquely with a girl who posts pictures of her (alleged) pussy or tits on the internet and publishes perfectly frank profiles of her sexual desires and fantasies.
In the first week of joining I have accumulated a dozen "friends" all of whom responded to my simple "Hi wanna meet up" approach without any problem. I have arranged a couple of dates and the expectation of sex is absolutely explicit, Christ I've even had approaches from two blokes who want me to shag their wives!
I don't for one second doubt the accounts provided by other members but I have to say I think you're wasting alot of time gently wooing these girls, they're already up for it lads.
[Disclaimer: I have no commercial connection with either of the sites mentioned above]Dorman,
I don't disagree with anything you have said about AFF Indonesia. But Mangga and Sabbath are not wrong either. The main point that I think all of us were making is that it doesn't hurt to be a nice guy.
I'm not talking flowers and dinner here. Though I will admit to a couple of dates in which I ate my new friend first and then we ordered room service (grin). And for sure the sex typically happens within minutes (ok maybe tens of minutes) after meeting the lady on the first date.
The trick is getting that first date, and this is where your mileage may vary. If you are a good-looking guy and you're willing to post your photo, then you can pull many women easily with a simple "I like your profile. Do you want to meet? "
I'm an ok-looking guy and I'm fit, so once I get face-to-face with the lady, my hit rate has been excellent. Dorman is spot-on that these women (most of them anyway) are looking for sex. Wonderful! But I have three handicaps I have to work through. First handicap is that no way I will post a photo; second is that I am honest about my age. Late 40's. And most of the ladies claim to be mid-20's to late-30's (sometimes creative accounting, but I have had my share of for-real mid-20's stunners). Third handicap is that I am married. Which I am also honest about on AFF, and which accounts for my reluctance to lead with my face.
Some of you may be thinking "Why be honest about age and (especially) marital status)? ". That's up to you, and probably works for one-off liaisons. But I have 3 things I'm trying to do. One is to pull from the top-quartile of the talent pool; two is to get a GFE from each encounter; three is to build a book of repeat business.
So for all those reasons, I find it works best to be polite and friendly and patient to the tune of several rounds of email exchanges. This helps to screen out the nut-jobs, personality mis-matches and potential stalkers too. Rest assured that AFF has its share of those.
Last point about patient. I find it helps a lot to invite a woman for "just a drink" and to be clear that next steps are "terserah kamu" ("up to you" for English-only speakers). Since she is looking for sex (well, duh! ) if she decides you don't look like a psycho, then the next steps she chooses will usually be straight to your hotel room. But most of the women seem to appreciate being in the driver's seat. Go figure. .
So Dorman's right. AFF is more about sex than relationships. But in one of those quirks of the boy/girl thing, making it seem a little more like a relationship has paid big dividends for me on sex. Hope that helps.
My experience with AFF is also pretty, let's say, poor. ...I did not join I've always regarded AFF as a scam (most women pics are fake pics posted by men, only the men pics are real etc.). If you run a search in Google groups you will find many threads complaining about AFF, not only about the zero female contacts, but eg about the fact that membership is hard to cancel, you have to cancel your credit card or they keep charging it.
Dorman,
I'm an ok-looking guy and I'm fit, so once I get face-to-face with the lady, my hit rate has been excellent. Dorman is spot-on that these women (most of them anyway) are looking for sex. Wonderful!My experience exactly. I have never likef AFF, a scam in my opinion, and have had quite good success with Faceparty. Requires a bit of investment in terms of time but have I now a "stable" of 3 regulars, all "good girls" with good jobs, live with their parents, and age range between 27 - 33. I'm no youngster, mid-50s, and it seems to work. Basically these gals want uncomplicated sex without any chance of reprisals (gossip etc etc). All 3 are fairly clear in their needs sexually, so you need to be proficient in that area and be able to deliver the goods. Apart from that all 3 crave some affection, something that seems to be missing in the life of these gals.
The general routine is that they will swing by my place after work and be on their way home by 9:30 PM, so no chance of suspicion from family, friends etc.
I would hate like hell to think that I gave the impression of being a cad, on the contrary I am quite the gentleman, well if it isn't an explicitly commercial relationship playing it nice is the only way you're going to get return matches.
I was just making the comparison between AFF and the more 'regular' dating forums, they are not exactly shrinking violets or playing it hard to get in Adult Friend Finder.
ProfDesigner
07-20-07, 04:27
Just on the various sites to meet girls on, I have found Asianeuro.com a killer of a site literally hundreds of girls who want to meet someone and many just want a BONPA (Bonk Only No Public Appearance). I really on that site for my freebies who either want to come to Bali and would like some free accomodation for a week or when I came to Jakarta I caught up with a couple then as well. The beauty is this site covers more than just indonesia so that gives a wider range for you as well. I have looked at faceparty and it has many cuties as well, but also a bucket load of ladyboys which takes the edge away when you see a nice photo and then find out its a guy.
I know many of the people I have told to try Asianeuro have also done very well out of the site. What have you got to lose?
Looking to be back in Jakarta soon, So Mighty Spearsman we must catch up.
Enjoy
Prof
Morepoonhound
07-20-07, 11:18
Will be in Jakarta tomorrow night. Since no time to read all bros thread.
May proceed to contact Don service or Qibye - Tropical Spa.
Unless there are better option.If you can get away for something in the middle of the afternoon, it's better. Traffic was especially bad. Even for Jakarta. The couple of times I went in the late afternoon, early evening. Going early afternoon saved me 20 minutes each way in the taxi.
Altogether I have been 3 times, and there was a good selection of free-lancers available each time. Standard package at Tropical is a free-lancer (for sex) in a reasonably-nice private room, followed by an hour-long massage by a massage lady in a curtained-off row of massage mattresses. You do get to choose the free-lancer from a line-up if you ask for it, or you can simply wander to the back of the room where they sit and check them out more casually. But for the massage lady, unless you ask for one by name, you get the next available one in the queue.
Both times that I took the standard package, the massage ladies. Who are older and generally much less attractive than the free-lancers. Were also willing to sit on my dick. And did. But the massage mattresses aren't such a great atmosphere and there is less privacy. If the free-lancers are a 7, then the massage ladies are comparatively a 4. For sure I wouldn't go to Tropical to do one of the massage ladies. But it's fun enough as a second pop after doing the head-liner. And after getting 30 minutes of a decent massage.
My suggestion is to pay a little bit more. I guess it was maybe another 100k rupiah. And ask to have the massage lady brought to the same room where you do the deed with your free-lancer. She will like that better and so will you because of the better facilities. On the other hand, if all you plan to do is get the full standard massage on the back-end, rather than take a second shot, then maybe not so much point to pay the extra charge to stay on in the private room.
The massage ladies are not. Strictly speaking. Available for sex, but none have turned me down yet. If you want to be sure of that second shot (which you will have to tip additional for of course), maybe tell her when she walks in that you want full service, and ask to change if she isn't keen.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Hi Joe,
How was your game eventually ? the 18 and 19 hole... :)
Joe and Bro Panya,
I am a very newbie to Golf and begin to enjoy it.
Would love to join playing with you if you don't mind playing with a beginner
JM,
Tried to send you a PM, but you have either not turned it on or subscribed to it. Have fun, though!
Best,
Panya
Fast Eddie 48
07-21-07, 05:22
Hi Joe,
How was your game eventually ? the 18 and 19 hole... :)
Joe and Bro Panya,
I am a very newbie to Golf and begin to enjoy it.
Would love to join playing with you if you don't mind playing with a beginnerTo Joe,
I am a begginer at the 18 th hole game but I am very advanced at the 3 hole game , that is all my girl friend in Jarkata tell me.
Fast eddie 48
If you can get away for something in the middle of the afternoon, it's better. Traffic was especially bad. Even for Jakarta. The couple of times I went in the late afternoon, early evening. Going early afternoon saved me 20 minutes each way in the taxi.
Altogether I have been 3 times, and there was a good selection of free-lancers available each time. Standard package at Tropical is a free-lancer (for sex) in a reasonably-nice private room, followed by an hour-long massage by a massage lady in a curtained-off row of massage mattresses. You do get to choose the free-lancer from a line-up if you ask for it, or you can simply wander to the back of the room where they sit and check them out more casually. But for the massage lady, unless you ask for one by name, you get the next available one in the queue.
Both times that I took the standard package, the massage ladies. Who are older and generally much less attractive than the free-lancers. Were also willing to sit on my dick. And did. But the massage mattresses aren't such a great atmosphere and there is less privacy. If the free-lancers are a 7, then the massage ladies are comparatively a 4. For sure I wouldn't go to Tropical to do one of the massage ladies. But it's fun enough as a second pop after doing the head-liner. And after getting 30 minutes of a decent massage.
My suggestion is to pay a little bit more. I guess it was maybe another 100k rupiah. And ask to have the massage lady brought to the same room where you do the deed with your free-lancer. She will like that better and so will you because of the better facilities. On the other hand, if all you plan to do is get the full standard massage on the back-end, rather than take a second shot, then maybe not so much point to pay the extra charge to stay on in the private room.
The massage ladies are not. Strictly speaking. Available for sex, but none have turned me down yet. If you want to be sure of that second shot (which you will have to tip additional for of course), maybe tell her when she walks in that you want full service, and ask to change if she isn't keen.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Hi bro,
1st timer to Jakarta, where is tropical spa, near any hotel?
Morepoonhound
07-22-07, 12:29
Hi bro,
1st timer to Jakarta, where is tropical spa, near any hotel?As a member with few posts of my own, I don't feel right telling you to RTFF. But maybe some of the more senior members won't mind saying so (grin).
Interpreting as charitably as possible, maybe you never post a report after asking a question because no-one answers you. So I will tell you that Tropical Spa is in the ITC Roxy Mas area, and that there are numerous hotels close enough by. Do a google on ITC Roxy Mas, hotel and Jakarta and then take your pick. But I would not choose my hotel based on proximity to a pussy-palace. Pick a hotel convenient for your business needs or personal tastes and then pay a taxi to take you to Tropical.
I did not tell you to RTFF, my friend. But I will tell you that a search of just this site using only the term "Tropical Spa" turns up more than 20 posts. And doing the same on Google with the addition of "Jakarta" turns up more than a couple hundred, including numerous links to international sex guide Indonesia pages. Hmmmm . . .
With 18 posts to your name and every one of them questions asking for help concerning Cebu, Chiangmai, Kuala Lumpur, Kuching, Penang and now Jakarta, I suggest it is payback time Kangoo. Maybe start by posting reports for some of the other cities you have already asked for help with.
Please enjoy your visit to Tropical Spa and tell everyone about it with a post here afterwards.
Kind regards.
Crazyfish68
07-22-07, 19:00
Attracted by couriousity, since you see the coulored building on the other side of the Tollroad at Taman Aggrek, everytime you go to the airport, I decided to stop by on my way back from Singapore.
They have a regular Spa on the 3rd floor but if you go down to the 2nd floor via emergency stairs, you reach the full service area with a lot of girls.
The infrastructure is comparable to the one at Alexis or Sumo.
They have PRC and local gal's working there. Local's prices start at 500K-700K (for 1h10min) and PRC's at 900K for 45 min or 1,5jt for 1h30.
All the ladies look very cute, so I chosed a local for 700K and on we went to the nice and clean room.
The problem was that already the girl started to tell me in the lift that she was new there. Once in the room she said "malu" (she feels ashame) when it was about time to take the shower. I tried to be comprehensive and to be extremly nice with her, but after 10 minutes with nothing going on I decided to leave.
Then she asked me to wait until the hour was over in order not to have problems with the mamasan. You may laugh, but I felt sorry for her, so i tried to make her understand that I would have agreed to recieve a massage with covered BJ. She did't even agree on that so that was enaugh for me.
The cherry on top was that she even had the guts to ask me for the tip!!!!
I went down and I complained with the mamasan. First she told me that she could'nt guarantee for the service since I chosed the girl myself without asking her about eventual qualities of the gal (?!?!?!?). I told her in my indonesian that the situation was alike going to the bakery and the baker refuses to sell you bread.
I asked then if I had to pay, and she said that the cashier is upstairs. I made myself clearer explaining her that I was not willing to pay for sth I did not "consume", after a negotiation of about 20 minutes we agreed (after she had called some "low level bodyguards") that I had to pay only 200k for the room.
It's the first time that such a situation happened to me in about 1,5 years of mongering in Jkt, but anyway, short, IMHO that is a place to avoid!
Cheers, CF68
Hello my fellow JKT mongerers :)
Just got back from a trip. In malaysia now.. Here are the reports.
Went to BATS. Here is FR
Name = Sonya
Boobs = B
Looks = 6
Age = thirties
BJ = 5/10 very fast... cause i need fuck...
FJ = good... 7/10 she moaned alot and give me my manlihood.. heh heh
finished her off with doggie.
Damage = 500k
Wir = will look for her again. Cause she showed me some pictures on her phone. Very beautiful girl. Instant I like. Then she said is her YOUNGER sister. Ehhehe. Hope to see her and her sister. Maybe can threesome
Next day, was at BATS again. Met an old friend as I kept in contact with her. She was my 1st fuck in jakarta when I was there. Didn't know price paid 1 million for ST. Sorry if I destroyed the market as I didn't check and didn't know about this site then. Here is report. 2nd fuck: the
Name = Aida
Age = 26 thats what she told me
Boobs = D <==== natural
BJ = 9/10 she knows how to please me
FJ = 8/10 still very tight and juicy.
Damage = 500k tips, she stayed with me how night long never ask bout money. Probably would have got it for free as she told me after the 1st time if I see and call her when I'm in jkt she won't ask for money and true enough she didn't ask for money and I willingly gave to her. Cause I kinda liked her and she kinda liked me. She is coming Malaysia to visit me
Well. She has some friends that are VERY GOOD LOOKING. She has I think 3 friends that are indonesian male magazine models. According to her, her friend charges from the region of 3 million rups. 7 million rups. I wanted to have a go. But afraid that I would ruin all relationship with her.
I have her contact and her photos. Would try to post them up soon. Thats all for now folks.
Ex
All experienced JKT mongers are aware of this, but I recently figured out an interesting rule of thumb -- quite convenient actually:
- Usually at BATS, 90% of the girls are working girls
- Usually at CJ's, 70% of the girls are working girls, the rest are girls having fun on the town (many of them coming in a group of friends to celebrate one of their's birthday) EXCEPT Sunday/Monday/Tuesday where the 90% rule prevails, ie 90% of girls at CJ's are working ladies on those 3 specific nights.
Hope this gives some rough ideas for newbies out there, at least you know where you set foot.
Ciao and bang safely!
Crazyfish 68 -
While my disgruntled situation was much different from your (and in Bali) I simply told the head honcho that i wanted 75% of my money back or . . . I'd go online (not mentioning any specific site) and tell tens of thousands of viewer not to frequent thier establishment. Worked quickly and without any hassle.
- jF
Attracted by couriousity, since you see the coulored building on the other side of the Tollroad at Taman Aggrek, everytime you go to the airport, I decided to stop by on my way back from Singapore.
They have a regular Spa on the 3rd floor but if you go down to the 2nd floor via emergency stairs, you reach the full service area with a lot of girls.
The infrastructure is comparable to the one at Alexis or Sumo.
They have PRC and local gal's working there. Local's prices start at 500K-700K (for 1h10min) and PRC's at 900K for 45 min or 1,5jt for 1h30.
All the ladies look very cute, so I chosed a local for 700K and on we went to the nice and clean room.
The problem was that already the girl started to tell me in the lift that she was new there. Once in the room she said "malu" (she feels ashame) when it was about time to take the shower. I tried to be comprehensive and to be extremly nice with her, but after 10 minutes with nothing going on I decided to leave.
Then she asked me to wait until the hour was over in order not to have problems with the mamasan. You may laugh, but I felt sorry for her, so i tried to make her understand that I would have agreed to recieve a massage with covered BJ. She did't even agree on that so that was enaugh for me.
The cherry on top was that she even had the guts to ask me for the tip!!!!
I went down and I complained with the mamasan. First she told me that she could'nt guarantee for the service since I chosed the girl myself without asking her about eventual qualities of the gal (?!?!?!?). I told her in my indonesian that the situation was alike going to the bakery and the baker refuses to sell you bread.
I asked then if I had to pay, and she said that the cashier is upstairs. I made myself clearer explaining her that I was not willing to pay for sth I did not "consume", after a negotiation of about 20 minutes we agreed (after she had called some "low level bodyguards") that I had to pay only 200k for the room.
It's the first time that such a situation happened to me in about 1,5 years of mongering in Jkt, but anyway, short, IMHO that is a place to avoid!
Cheers, CF68
If you can get away for something in the middle of the afternoon, it's better. Traffic was especially bad. Even for Jakarta. The couple of times I went in the late afternoon, early evening. Going early afternoon saved me 20 minutes each way in the taxi.
.[/blue][/size]Agreed with you. Told my driver to proceed from Planet Hollywood.
Was told, it will take me 90 minutes due to the Traffic Jam.
Went to Delta Spa instead..
MrBill1963
07-23-07, 20:22
Attracted by couriousity, since you see the coulored building on the other side of the Tollroad at Taman Aggrek, everytime you go to the airport, I decided to stop by on my way back from Singapore.
They have a regular Spa on the 3rd floor but if you go down to the 2nd floor via emergency stairs, you reach the full service area with a lot of girls.
The infrastructure is comparable to the one at Alexis or Sumo.
They have PRC and local gal's working there. Local's prices start at 500K-700K (for 1h10min) and PRC's at 900K for 45 min or 1,5jt for 1h30.
All the ladies look very cute, so I chosed a local for 700K and on we went to the nice and clean room.
The problem was that already the girl started to tell me in the lift that she was new there. Once in the room she said "malu" (she feels ashame) when it was about time to take the shower. I tried to be comprehensive and to be extremly nice with her, but after 10 minutes with nothing going on I decided to leave.
Then she asked me to wait until the hour was over in order not to have problems with the mamasan. You may laugh, but I felt sorry for her, so i tried to make her understand that I would have agreed to recieve a massage with covered BJ. She did't even agree on that so that was enaugh for me.
The cherry on top was that she even had the guts to ask me for the tip!!!!
I went down and I complained with the mamasan. First she told me that she could'nt guarantee for the service since I chosed the girl myself without asking her about eventual qualities of the gal (?!?!?!?). I told her in my indonesian that the situation was alike going to the bakery and the baker refuses to sell you bread.
I asked then if I had to pay, and she said that the cashier is upstairs. I made myself clearer explaining her that I was not willing to pay for sth I did not "consume", after a negotiation of about 20 minutes we agreed (after she had called some "low level bodyguards") that I had to pay only 200k for the room.
It's the first time that such a situation happened to me in about 1,5 years of mongering in Jkt, but anyway, short, IMHO that is a place to avoid!
Cheers, CF68Thanks for the informative post, I was just about to pose a question to the forum on this place as I also have passed many times on my way to/from the airport and also wondered about the facilities. I guess from your experience I'll chalk this up as a place to avoid.
Crazyfish68
07-23-07, 21:20
Crazyfish 68 -
While my disgruntled situation was much different from your (and in Bali) I simply told the head honcho that i wanted 75% of my money back or . . . I'd go online (not mentioning any specific site) and tell tens of thousands of viewer not to frequent thier establishment. Worked quickly and without any hassle.
- jFThanks jF for this further good argumentation, I just wish that no-one of us will have to use it in the future.
Cheers,
CF68
I think you are pretty accurate with that statistic and I would add 30 Bar at Le Meridien at 90% as well with a much lower standard. The only point of clarification for those who aren't familiar with the "scene" in Jakarta is that it is far from obvious that the percentages are that high because many of the girls will not approach you directly. I know (naive) bules who have spent 2 or 3 hours in BATS and "never noticed" ANY WG's in there.
Morepoonhound
07-24-07, 05:25
I think you are pretty accurate with that statistic and I would add 30 Bar at Le Meridien at 90% as well with a much lower standard. I agree with the many comments about the standards having dropped dismally in Tiga Puloh at the Meridien. Maybe another 90% rule of thumb is that out of 10 hotties to be found in the bule-circuit bars, 9 of them will NOT be at 30 Bar. The talent pool is definitely deeper at BATS and CJ's. But still a good chance that you will find several women worth boning at Meridien on any given night.
This is a 3-part story, all involving a hard-bodied lady called Yanti that I met in 30 Bar. She isn't a real beauty - face maybe a 7 with make-up on, and small breasts - but she is a gym bunny (aerobics) and dances hard in the bar, so she has tight abs, a muscular little bum and great muscle control of her already tight pussy. Her English is good because she had a bule-banker boyfriend for years (Merrill Lynch, I think she said) and she is smart and fun to talk to. Oh, not to forget that she really likes to fuck (grin).
The first encounter was in Tiga Puloh, where she picked me up very smoothly, even though I had my eye on a hotter looking lady who walked in 5-minutes after I met Yanti. We went back to my nearby hotel with no mention of money, and did a couple of enthusiastic rounds between midnight and 2 or 2:30 am. Yanti has a daughter at home, so she couldn't stay the night. When she got ready to go, I slipped 400k rups into her jeans-skirt pocket and handed her another 50 "for taxi-mu". She went absolutely ballistic, telling me that she NEVER fucks for less than a million and that I have to give her more money.
I replied calmly that I sometimes pay 300k at Tiga Puloh (actually, that is a stretch - I haven't gone that low for a year there). But I am a fair guy and she was a great fuck so not only did I give her my top-rate of 400k but I was adding 50 more for her taxi. She tried a couple more rounds of "give me at least 800", and "I have never been paid so little", but she wasn't nasty about it, and we were kissing and mutually grabbing ass throughout our disagreement.
I stood firm, but I did walk her downstairs to the taxi so that she wouldn't have to pay the security guards. Because she dropped the subject gracefully when it was clear I wouldn't budge, I gave her another 50 as I dropped her off, because my top rate is actually 500k (smile), and she was really an outstanding fuck. On the way home she sms'd me that she wanted to see me again and hoped that I would call, so she clearly wasn't too upset about her pay-out.
Part two was a couple months later. I called Yanti in the afternoon and she remembered immediately who I was. I had her come straight to my hotel around 10 pm and she was excellent again - nice hard-body and obviously does kegel exercises to keep her little friend in shape (and her friend feels really little when Yanti bears down - wonderful!). Gave her 500k on the way out with no discussion. I couldn't help over-hearing her tell the taxi driver to take her to the Meridien (this was just after mid-night).
Part three was another afternoon call to Yanti, and she got my full attention by asking me if I would like her to bring a friend along. Pasti! Definitely I was up for a two-girl-tango. The friend turned out to be a slim, slightly prettier but not particularly fit, younger girl - maybe 23 or so. Yanti claims 26, but my guess is that she is a hard-bodied 30. Very fun to have one girl riding my dick while the other rode my tongue, but Yanti was by far the better fuck. Total damage 500k for each lady. I expect I could have paid less - maybe 400 each, but room-service is worth something, after all.
So the point of all this comes back to where they headed after our 3 hour marathon. I teasingly asked if they were going back to Bar 30, and they replied "of course". That's where their friends are and where they like to hang out (and maybe score a second trick - grin again). So even though the talent pool is much deeper at BATS or CJ's, there are still a handful of Yanti types that for some reason prefer the Meridien. Jakarta remains remarkable, and we are all damn lucky.
My experience exactly. I have never likef AFF, a scam in my opinion, and have had quite good success with Faceparty. Requires a bit of investment in terms of time but have I now a "stable" of 3 regulars, all "good girls" with good jobs, live with their parents, and age range between 27 - 33. I'm no youngster, mid-50s, and it seems to work. Basically these gals want uncomplicated sex without any chance of reprisals (gossip etc etc). All 3 are fairly clear in their needs sexually, so you need to be proficient in that area and be able to deliver the goods. Apart from that all 3 crave some affection, something that seems to be missing in the life of these gals.
The general routine is that they will swing by my place after work and be on their way home by 9:30 PM, so no chance of suspicion from family, friends etc.Pak Mike,
On several occasions, you posted here saying that you have a stock of 2-3 good girls that you can bang pretty much at will when you're in town. As a consequence of which you have no need to go hunting for prey until late at night/early morning. I have to say this is very well done. I am looking for your guidance as to how you do this.
Basically, in my situation, I endeavour to do the same and at some points I do have a stock of 2-3 chicks (good girls or naugty girls but not "working girls" so to speak) that I can call and bang HOWEVER this is extremely dynamci ie sometimes they are hot sometimes they are cold, which means that my "stable" of regulars evolves continuously. This concretely means that I have to do some hunting to make sure I continuously have 2-3 regulars. So very often, I am in a situation where my 2 or 3 gals are cold or not available at the same time and basically I have to go hunting.
My question to you: how do you keep your stock of 2-3 good gals to be reliably and predictably available to you? Personally, I can't, even though I stay in touch with them (SMS, call, sometimes e-mail etc.). Also, having 2-3 gals available means you have to take care of them regularly, if you don't see them for 2-3 weeks (because you may be busy closing some other chicks), then naturally -- as I find it- they become cold or find another sausage around.
Please share the ingredients of your success.
Thanks in advance !
I started out a few years ago as one of those naive bules hanging out at BATS. Never noticing what was happening around me. Now however, I can gladly say that with some thourough coaching from the eminent seniors, I am no longer naive and have graduated to the level of knave.
Hello B69 ! You have been missed on the board.
AF
It is funny to see how much X-rated movies Indo chicks watch!
I have been banging quite a few "good girls" in Jakarta lately (ie not at all WG's) and it really is amazing how much blue movies these chicks watch!
As a funny example/anecdote, I met a (quite conservative) Indo accountant (a very "good" girl who acknowledged to me afterwards she had not had sex in 6 months after breaking up with her BF.- I know this story has been heard before but in this case genuine) and the first we had sex, it was wild as in a porn movie: she went down on me, licking everything "down there" and seemingly enjoying it, then when I was inside her she was (almost screaming) "fuck me, fuck me! ", basically like they do in the porn movies. I was giggling inside of me when all of this happened thinking to myself I was like a porn star banging a conservative accountant (job which to me sounds dry and conservative! )!
Any other fun anecdotes with blue movies in Indo, guys?
Cheers, happy shagging in Indo!
Morepoonhound
07-24-07, 09:23
Just on the various sites to meet girls on, I have found Asianeuro.com a killer of a site literally hundreds of girls who want to meet someone and many just want a BONPA (Bonk Only No Public Appearance).
I have looked at faceparty and it has many cuties as well, but also a bucket load of ladyboys which takes the edge away when you see a nice photo and then find out its a guy.
ProfGreat tip, Prof. I didn't know about the Asianeuro site until I saw your message about it. But I can guess that one reason many of these sites are great places for freebies is because the women who are looking for sex have profiles on multiple sites.
I was delighted to see one of my regular freebies from AdultFriendFinder on the very first screen of Asianeuro (full smile). She is divorced and has several clothing stores around town. I guess she uses AFF for sexual relief and looks on Asianeuro for a new husband. Her profile on AFF mainly talks about her big nipples and that she likes to be licked (no photo). Her profile on Asianeuro has a nice full-face picture, and describes her personality and her interest in marriage. But I would guess that if you met her through her Asianeuro profile she would be every bit as hot once you got her warmed up. And for sure she wouldn't be looking for your money. She has plenty of her own.
Same story with lovehappens. Two different lady "friends" of mine from AFF have told me their profile names on lovehappens. And similar drill. Their lovehappens profiles say they want a committed relationship or marriage, while they are playing. Big time. On AFF. Incidentally, the magic code words on lovehappens are "fling / physical" under the category "commitment level". Do a search to find only women who clicked the interested in a fling/physical box, and you will turn up several dozens. But don't be discouraged if the profile you prefer doesn't have that box checked. Like I just said, two of my AFF friends are on lovehappens looking all respectable.
Two more. Just quickly. First, faceparty definitely has overlap with AFF, but the average age of the women on faceparty is more like early 20's. So if your age is late 40's like me, then it isn't as great a place to hunt as AFF or lovehappens or now (thanks to ProfDesigner), Asianeuro. You can screen out the lady-boys though by specifying "only females" in the searches that you do on faceparty. Well, most of them anyway. Some of the TS fellows sign themselves up as females. Finally, friendster is a site that many, many Indonesian women have profiles on. I don't find it good for hunting, though it's a good place to learn more about your new friends. Ask them what their FS (that's what many call it) profile is, and then check them out.
Great tip, Prof. I haven't scored any freebies yet from Asianeuro, but with the confidence your endorsement gives me, and my early luck spotting a current lady friends profile there, I plan to give this a try. Jump in gentlemen. The pussy is free. Albeit takes some work on email and sms.
Morepoonhound
07-24-07, 09:31
Just on the various sites to meet girls on, I have found Asianeuro.com a killer of a site literally hundreds of girls who want to meet someone and many just want a BONPA (Bonk Only No Public Appearance).
I have looked at faceparty and it has many cuties as well, but also a bucket load of ladyboys which takes the edge away when you see a nice photo and then find out its a guy.
ProfGreat tip, Prof. I didn't know about the Asianeuro site until I saw your message about it. But I can guess that one reason many of these sites are great places for freebies is because the women who are looking for sex have profiles on multiple sites.
I was delighted to see one of my regular freebies from AdultFriendFinder on the very first screen of Asianeuro (full smile). She is divorced and has several clothing stores around town. I guess she uses AFF for sexual relief and looks on Asianeuro for a new husband. Her profile on AFF mainly talks about her big nipples and that she likes to be licked (no photo). Her profile on Asianeuro has a nice full-face picture, and describes her personality and her interest in marriage. But I would guess that if you met her through her Asianeuro profile she would be every bit as hot once you got her warmed up. And for sure she wouldn't be looking for your money. She has plenty of her own.
Same story with lovehappens. Two different lady "friends" of mine from AFF have told me their profile names on lovehappens. And similar drill. Their lovehappens profiles say they want a committed relationship or marriage, while they are playing. Big time. On AFF. Incidentally, the magic code words on lovehappens are "fling / physical" under the category "commitment level". Do a search to find only women who clicked the interested in a fling/physical box, and you will turn up several dozens. But don't be discouraged if the profile you prefer doesn't have that box checked. Like I just said, two of my AFF friends are on lovehappens looking all respectable.
Two more. Just quickly. First, faceparty definitely has overlap with AFF, but the average age of the women on faceparty is more like early 20's. So if your age is late 40's like me, then it isn't as great a place to hunt as AFF or lovehappens or now (thanks to ProfDesigner), Asianeuro. You can screen out the lady-boys though by specifying "only females" in the searches that you do on faceparty. Well, most of them anyway. Some of the TS fellows sign themselves up as females. Finally, friendster is a site that many, many Indonesian women have profiles on. I don't find it good for hunting, though it's a good place to learn more about your new friends. Ask them what their FS (that's what many call it) profile is, and then check them out.
Great tip, Prof. I haven't scored any freebies yet from Asianeuro, but with the confidence your endorsement gives me, and my early luck spotting a current lady friends profile there, I plan to give this a try. Jump in gentlemen. The pussy is free. Albeit takes some work on email and sms.
Great tip, Prof. I didn't know about the Asianeuro site until I saw your message about it. But I can guess that one reason many of these sites are great places for freebies is because the women who are looking for sex have profiles on multiple sites.
Finally, friendster is a site that many, many Indonesian women have profiles on. I don't find it good for hunting, though it's a good place to learn more about your new friends. Ask them what their FS (that's what many call it) profile is, and then check them out.
Jump in gentlemen. The pussy is free. Albeit takes some work on email and sms.I am curious as to why you are putting down Friendster as not good for hunting? I've had quite a few free pussies there, even though the "shag cycle" for some of them has been a couple of drinks/dinners before the shag took place, but on one or 2 occasions the bang took place on the first "date".
It is true that I did not get to bang some of the chicks I met on friendster, but can't have 100% success ratio!
Interested in your views.
Cheers
Morepoonhound
07-25-07, 05:40
I am curious as to why you are putting down Friendster as not good for hunting? I've had quite a few free pussies there, even though the "shag cycle" for some of them has been a couple of drinks/dinners before the shag took place, but on one or 2 occasions the bang took place on the first "date".
It is true that I did not get to bang some of the chicks I met on friendster, but can't have 100% success ratio!
Interested in your views.
CheersNot putting down Friendster. Just commenting that I haven't personally been successful hunting there. I have the impression that Friendster has by far more profiles than any of the other sites, so it makes sense that there would be plenty of pussy available there. Faceparty (where I also haven't had much success), has evidently been a great place to hunt for Pak Mike, and maybe many others, so go with what works for you.
Really I think it comes down to being spoiled for choice. I have had so much luck with AdultFriendFinder, that I haven't been especially persistent with spending much time on other sites. I actually started on all 3 of faceparty, friendster and AFF around the same time, and when AFF worked out so well, I shopped much less frequently on the others.
I should be clear that I pay for my AFF membership, while I'm just an interested "regular member" on the other sites. But even during the first month on AFF before I signed up for a paid subscription, I was able to pull a couple of women with my no-photo profile. For any of you fellows that are younger (say, 20's to mid-30's), at least ok-looking, and willing to post a face picture of yourself, I suspect you will attract lots of female interest without having to pay for a membership.
But again, nothing wrong with friendster, or faceparty or any of the other hunting sites. I just haven't figured out so well how to make them work for me. And with an excellent, target-rich alternative available, I have been a little bit lazy about raising my game elsewhere. Good on any of you that are pulling from the other sites, and thanks for encouraging the rest of us to try, with your success stories.
Mature Man
07-25-07, 06:12
Hi MPH,
I was always under the impression that AFF was a big money scam. Has your success enabled you to meet up with women who just want to have a good time or only for the sake of money.Could you also mention the countries as that may have some relevance to the response. I do know in the ultimate analysis we pay anyway.
Reason is that if money is involved its better to go where you know you likely getting the biggest bang for your buck.
Not putting down Friendster. Just commenting that I haven't personally been successful hunting there. I have the impression that Friendster has by far more profiles than any of the other sites, so it makes sense that there would be plenty of pussy available there. Faceparty (where I also haven't had much success), has evidently been a great place to hunt for Pak Mike, and maybe many others, so go with what works for you.
Really I think it comes down to being spoiled for choice. I have had so much luck with AdultFriendFinder, that I haven't been especially persistent with spending much time on other sites. I actually started on all 3 of faceparty, friendster and AFF around the same time, and when AFF worked out so well, I shopped much less frequently on the others.
I should be clear that I pay for my AFF membership, while I'm just an interested "regular member" on the other sites. But even during the first month on AFF before I signed up for a paid subscription, I was able to pull a couple of women with my no-photo profile. For any of you fellows that are younger (say, 20's to mid-30's), at least ok-looking, and willing to post a face picture of yourself, I suspect you will attract lots of female interest without having to pay for a membership.
But again, nothing wrong with friendster, or faceparty or any of the other hunting sites. I just haven't figured out so well how to make them work for me. And with an excellent, target-rich alternative available, I have been a little bit lazy about raising my game elsewhere. Good on any of you that are pulling from the other sites, and thanks for encouraging the rest of us to try, with your success stories.
Not putting down Friendster. Just commenting that I haven't personally been successful hunting there. I have the impression that Friendster has by far more profiles than any of the other sites, so it makes sense that there would be plenty of pussy available there. Faceparty (where I also haven't had much success), has evidently been a great place to hunt for Pak Mike, and maybe many others, so go with what works for you.
Really I think it comes down to being spoiled for choice. I have had so much luck with AdultFriendFinder, that I haven't been especially persistent with spending much time on other sites. I actually started on all 3 of faceparty, friendster and AFF around the same time, and when AFF worked out so well, I shopped much less frequently on the others.
I should be clear that I pay for my AFF membership, while I'm just an interested "regular member" on the other sites. But even during the first month on AFF before I signed up for a paid subscription, I was able to pull a couple of women with my no-photo profile. For any of you fellows that are younger (say, 20's to mid-30's), at least ok-looking, and willing to post a face picture of yourself, I suspect you will attract lots of female interest without having to pay for a membership.
But again, nothing wrong with friendster, or faceparty or any of the other hunting sites. I just haven't figured out so well how to make them work for me. And with an excellent, target-rich alternative available, I have been a little bit lazy about raising my game elsewhere. Good on any of you that are pulling from the other sites, and thanks for encouraging the rest of us to try, with your success stories.OK, makes sense ! Thanks for the clarification.
Morepoonhound
07-25-07, 13:32
Hi MPH,
I was always under the impression that AFF was a big money scam. Has your success enabled you to meet up with women who just want to have a good time or only for the sake of money.Could you also mention the countries as that may have some relevance to the response. I do know in the ultimate analysis we pay anyway.
Reason is that if money is involved its better to go where you know you likely getting the biggest bang for your buck.I don’t think AFF is a scam. Hard-sell marketing for sure, and lots of annoying pop-up’s to up-sell and cross-sell even after you buy a paid membership. But the basic product of people actively seeking sex is for real.
I have said a couple of times that we are all damn lucky to be playing in Indonesia, whether at the 5-star-hotel hooker bars or the Kota knock-shops or at Blok-M. I think that good luck carries over into AdultFriendFinder, especially if you are a bule.
Go back through the past several screens worth of messages and read what Mangga and Mandiri and Pak Mike (maybe some others also) have to say. I agree with what they have said about the motivations and behavior of the wanita jelita (lovely ladies). But here is my similar story.
I have met dozens of women from Jakarta that I found on AFF in the 4 months since I bought a membership, which costs me around US$12 per month. There are more expensive options for membership, but I went with the budget-ticket. Dozens means more than 30 ladies for those of you keen on miscellaneous details (grin).
Only one woman asked me for money. That was for her taxi fare, which I usually offer anyway, unless I have reason to believe that my friend is very well-heeled and may be offended by the offer. Depending on where the lady lives in relation to my central-Jakarta hotel, I give anywhere from 50k to 150k for taxi on my own initiative. Menteng gets 50k, and Bogor or Bekasi gets 150k, if you wonder how I decide, but I’m not perfect on my knowledge of greater Jakarta geography. Only the one woman (a classy 40-something Sundanese sales promoter) asked for it, and she asked by sms before she ever got into the taxi to come see me.
And just like some others have reported, a few women were shocked (borderline offended) that I offered them even taxi money. One that I gave 100k to gave me back 80k smiling sweetly and telling me that her parking at the hotel was only 20k. She had driven herself there, same as a paediatrician (yes, a medical doctor), a university lecturer, and a couple of wealthy tai-tais (married wives). They all have their own cars, and good jobs. This is one reason they like bules. Less chance that we will be patients or ex-students, or spouses of neighbors, etc.
Two weeks ago I had a three-some (yes, there are also women who hunt in pairs on AFF under the category “couples: 2 women”) Life is really too good in Indonesia (full smile). One was an older engineer (late 30’s) and her friend was a secretary (20-something). After a really fantastic session, I slipped 50k each into their pockets (for taxi-mu). While the younger one was in the toilet putting on lipstick, the older one handed me back my 50k, telling me that it was nice of me, but that I should give only to the younger one because her salary isn’t so high. Implicit message was “I have my pride”. Incidentally, I did her again, by herself, over her lunch hour the very next day. Wonderful!
For the sceptics reading this, there are definitely some women who are hooking for dollars or SugarDaddies on the AFF site, and their profiles say so explicitly. The code words are “looking for generous men”, or “take me shopping”, or “want to be treated as a courtesan”. My guesstimate is that maybe 1 out of 15 or 1 out of 20 profiles are like this, at least explicitly. Single digit percentage only, and I simply avoid those women. Many more may well be open to the cash-for-gash trade-off, but we all know how sweet the women can be, even though they may not have much money. When I want to pay (which is still often – grin), then I prefer to call one of my done-her-before “sure thing” professional friends, or go look for fresh pussy myself at BATS or D’s Place.
Finally, for those of you convinced that AFF is a scam in terms of the site itself ripping you off, I think that is nonsense. Sure they charge a fee, and if you are worried about not being able to cancel your credit card, just send them a money-order like I do. I can’t risk any unexplained charges on my cards because my wife vets the bills carefully. Still not persuaded, then do an internet search on AdultFriendfinder, or on the founder, Andrew Conru. Even the Wall Street Journal has been writing about how “Adult” dating sites flourish all over the world as people choose sex over love. Good for all of us friends of Jackson (smile again). Remember we are here to share experiences about meeting women for sex. Not only meeting women that we pay for sex. Hubba-hubba!
I can’t comment on AFF in the United States because I play only in Asia, and mostly in Indonesia. But I can tell you for sure that AFF Malaysia and Thailand are both excellent sources for freebies, and I plan to try Vietnam within the next month. Stay tuned and stay grateful that Indonesian women are as hot as they are. Treat them all well, because they do share stories about us.
Hope that helps, fellow seekers.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
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I don't for one second doubt the accounts provided by other members but I have to say I think you're wasting alot of time gently wooing these girls, they're already up for it lads.
You're quite right about what you say about AFF girls Dorman. Because AFF is an explicitly sex-seekers site, it's much easier to get straight down to business than with some site like Friendster. But wooing is all relative. When I said wooing, I only meant something like a couple of emails/text messages/phone calls. But there is a definite difference between giving the "come here and fuck me" wave to a fucklet in a miniskirt at TC or the Berlian and talking with an office-girl or horny housewife on AFF.
My point is also that a bit of wooing and sweet talk will always produce a much better and more fun experience than "hey wanna fuck?". Again, it's all relative and it all depends on what you're after. Personally I look for the AFF girls who are "keepers" - ie those who you can fuck on a continuing basis and form some kind of friendship. But that's just me.
In my experience, the ones who I've fucked after one message have been the ones who've I've mentally struck off my list when they've worked out the door after a workout in my bed.
Just to add something new to this very interesting discussion: One species of AFF girl is the sex-nutter. There are a few girlies on the site who will fuck anything that moves and take the approach that they'll get fucked more often if they have a number of profiles under different names.
I've run accross two like this in my career on the site. One was as fat and ugly as you could possibly imagine, but would do just about anything! This was two years ago - I sent her a message with my hp attached, she immediately sent me a text saying "so when do we fuck?". Having nothing else better to do at the time (grin) I replied "well now, of course", not really expecting anything to happen straight away. She immediately replied "well, what's your address?". When I opened the door to her and saw what was on offer I almost shut it again, but hey, I'm too polite and I thought "what the heck?".
She was a 3-holer who would take whatever I wanted to put in any oriface. And she thought I was great and loved my toys. After that time she regularly called me wanting the same treatment. But given her standard of looks I have gave in once and let her back into my apartment. She has been a regular around AFF and the chatroom connected to it ever since. I see a new profile for her every couple of months. She has been removed by the webmaster a couple of times.
Sex-nutter number two was as skinny as No 1 was fat. Also a very ugly face. She was just the same in terms of the "I'll take anything anywhere anytime" attitude. I related her story several months ago on ISG. After I had fucked her in every possible way for two hours she lay in the nude in front of my TV watching my porno DVDs and masturbating with my vibrator! I sat and drank a few beers and occasionally slippled a finger up her arse while she buzzed away. Well, same story, I've recognised her on about six different profiles since then.
What you want to do with this category of AFF fucklet is a matter of taste: but in the spirit of sociological inquiry I thought I should mention it.....
If you are going for the fat, ugly ones, I don't think there's much need to use AFF. Just go to any bar and take one home. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to accomodate you. There's an old comedy bit by Andrew Dice Clay where he says "with diseases and women's attitudes today, sex is too much trouble". So his plan is to find the fattest, ugliest mutt in the bar and take her home. Some chick nobody else has even thought of fuckin'. He says that type of girl really appreciates the sex and will do anything to please you. And you have little to no chance of catching any disease.
I don't subscribe to that theory, but it's a theory.
I too used to prefer noncompetitive sports. There's a lot of wisdom in those words, if you can stomach the fat.
So his plan is to find the fattest, ugliest mutt in the bar and take her home. Some chick nobody else has even thought of fuckin'. He says that type of girl really appreciates the sex and will do anything to please you. And you have little to no chance of catching any disease.
Interesting subject. When you are holed up in some city outside of Asia, pay sites like AFF would be a godsend, but the subscription paper trail is always a deal breaker (although someone mentioned they take money orders, which I didn't know).
In the states, there is a totally free site called craigslist.org, which is quite effective. They have been adding additional areas to cover a lot of non-US cities. It is slow going, but there is even a JKT area. Trouble is that there is no traffic there because nobody knows about it yet.
my first trip to jakarta last week. stayed first night at century atlet, got in around 2pm. called the spa to see if they could send someone up for a massage, 90 minutes was 150k. 10 minutes later she shows up, not a hottie, but pleasant looking, wearing the hotel uniform. she did not say a word, i stripped and she got down to the best damned massage, truly a massage therapist. after massaging every part of me except the package, she started massaging the eggs and then (finally speaking) pointed to my cock and said "massage"? sure sweetie as there were 10 minutes left. good hj followed. after she went to the bathroom to wash, came out and i handed her the 15k + 10k as tip as the hj was not expected. nice way to start my vacation in jakarta! what was interesting was how little communication there was, she said maybe 3 words. all women should talk this much!
i went to the block m bars same evening. had great trouble explaining to the (several) taxi drivers where i wanted to go. block m they understood, they want to take me to the mall. i explain girlie bars, top gun, d's place. i make drinking sign with my hand, draw hourglass figure, say cewek. they say cj's (by the way i was the only person at cj's around 10:30pm)? bats? at one point one of the taxi drivers at the mall called over several other drivers, and we went around for several minutes on this. finally one taxi driver spoke english with me and we figured it out.
finally get to the bars, hit several, mostly dead. finally at one a pushy mamasan brought over several different gals, one i finally liked and we got into the particulars. she was very eager, but because of the language problems i wanted to confirm everything with the mamasan. the mamasan spoke good english and wanted a tip for her services so i gave her one. we confirmed full-service, all-night, the girl would stay until 8am and i would taxi-tip her 50k, 500k for the girl. off to my hotel with the girl, 24, asian-skinny, good enthusiastic service. when we finished she went to the bathroom and slipped into her street clothes, saying she needed to get to bats bar. wtf? i reminded her all-night, and she just looked sad and said she needed to get to bats and please pay her. i was unsure how to proceed, a bit peeved at her leaving early, so i handed her two 100k notes and she seemed happy with that and left. i realize that is probably too little to give for the service, ya? but i also expected service in the morning and to wake up with a cutie. cest la vie.
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Yes, 200k was too little for that. 300k would have been fair and is the going rate for a Blok M short time these days. However, if she had really agreed to all night, then I think you did the right thing. The problem is that it's hard to say what the mamasan communicated to her. Those women aren't really mamasans there, they are just old scrags hanging around trying to make some extra bucks by pushing some girls on you. They don't really have an affiliation with those girls. I seriously doubt she was happy with the 200k as you mentioned. But she must have had a regular customer calling her to meet him at Bats if she was saying she had to go there. I wonder what she'd have said if you volunteered to accompany her to Bats. LOL!
Of the 200k you gave her, it would cost her 30k for taxi and 70k entry fee to Bats. So she's down to 100k. If she doesn't meet a guy there, the taxi home is another 30k so she basically comes out with almost nothing. That last 70k is just enough to buy some noodles for lunch and dinner then get a taxi back to the Blok again. 200k doesn't go far in Jakarta these days. 5 years ago it did, but not anymore.
500k is high end for the Blok. 400k for all night is fair.
To get to the Blok next time, tell the taxi driver:
"Jalan Felatehan, Blok M" (it's really Pelatehan, but they pronounce it with an F sound for the most part.)
Hi Rgbburn,
Interesting adventure about Blok M, last time I was in JKT I used the busway to get to Blok M first so that I would have an idea where it was. This way I could then direct the taxi when they seem to be going around in circles.
As for your LT/ST issues had similar experience in Bangkok. Some advice next time make sure that they know that it's less money if they leave early. More than likely they will then stay until the required time.
If they think that you are a sucker they will skip out on you early and ask for the full fee. Guess they are the same in JKT as in BKK.
Did you manage to revisit CJ's? From what I read it's a hopping place but I guess timing is everything.
you had better luck than me. the one and only time i got a massage at the atlet the woman was ugly and offered fs for us$100. no thanks. and that was around 2002 when a dollar was still worth something. .
stayed first night at century atlet, got in around 2pm. called the spa to see if they could send someone up for a massage, 90 minutes was 150k. 10 minutes later she shows up, not a hottie, but pleasant looking, wearing the hotel uniform. she did not say a word, i stripped and she got down to the best damned massage, truly a massage therapist. after massaging every part of me except the package, she started massaging the eggs and then (finally speaking) pointed to my cock and said "massage"? sure sweetie as there were 10 minutes left. good hj followed. after she went to the bathroom to wash, came out and i handed her the 15k + 10k as tip as the hj was not expected. nice way to start my vacation in jakarta! what was interesting was how little communication there was, she said maybe 3 words. all women should talk this much![/blue][/size]
kartika, berlian etc.
took a walk down these lanes and peeked in several of these establishments but i was somewhat appalled at some of the ladies. i mean, who is taking these ladies? there were a few fresh cuties in a few of the establishments but i was hard pressed to make a decision in any of these places. i wanted to try hotel travel and mtr but never found these places because of nightfall. i mean you can probably have a good time here but i did not see the value over tc. maybe i will try them next time out. these establishments are right off of the busway line so you can get the busway almost right there. i think someone mentioned sawah besar as the busway stop. i just look-see’d all of them but some of the girls did not seem real enthused about their jobs or my presence especially in the smaller places. i think i was at the places off of hyam wuruk. i took mangga besar over (i walked believe it or not from mangga dua mall) to hyam wuruk. i think some guys tried to call me into the lane with the other houses while on mangga besar but i kept going for some reason. you will see a bakery maybe “holland” i don’t remember it saying swiss. it is a tall towering bakery with a sign on it from “some country in europe” on the corner or near the corner of mangga besar and hyam wuruk, or was it mangga dua? you know you are in the region when you see that bakery, then start peeking in alleys…
just to add my own experience of looking for these places that i'd read so much about.
i picked up a bluebird outside my hotel (ibis mangga dua) and showed the driver the address i had printed out ready for just this situation. lots of discussion with his colleagues suggested that he didn't know where i wanted to go. at this point i mentioned bakery suisse and the penny seemed to drop with one of his mates who chattered to my driver and we were on our way. i don't remember how long the journey was but i eventually saw a sign that suggested that we were on the jalan hayam wuruk and i started to keep an eye out.
suddenly a shop sign for bakery suisse passed through my view and i called the driver to stop. i ascertained that we were indeed in hayam wuruk and told him we had passed the bakery. it turned out that he had been directed by his mate to the holland bakery. any way i paid and started the search.
we had passed 2 or 3 alleys since i had seen the bakery suisse and as i couldn't remember whether the directions i had read on this board talked of an alley to the left or right of the bakery i looked in all of them.
some of these alleys are not the best advertisement for jakarta or indonesia and i felt like a fish out of water but kept looking.
i eventually came back to the bakery suisse but this is a much smaller establishment than i had expected and it is set back under the overhanging first floor of the building and quite difficult to see with all the street vendors out front.
as you look at the bakery the alley with kartika in is directly on your left and the kartika sign can be seen from the main road at the end and on the right of the fairly short alley.
hope this helps some other kartika newbie. report of visit to follow.
sk
(My trip was 6 July to 16 July but I couldn’t report immediately on my return as I took ill on my flight from Singapore to London with what turned out to be food poisoning and ended up in hospital in the UK)
Landed at CGK Saturday morning. I had planned to try the advice from an earlier post about approaching single girls at the airport but my over generous colleagues provided a car and driver which were waiting for me. This is even though I am here on holiday and won’t be working for more than 1 day.
One negative to report. This my first time arriving on a Saturday and if the queues for Visa and immigration are likely to be as long in the next time I will be avoiding similar itineraries in the future.
I kept my spirits up by listening to a Norwegian guy who had a sense of humour failure when he discovered that he needed to buy a visa and didn’t have any cash with him. Bizarrely he was married to a Jakarta girl. His excuse was that it was some years since he had been there.
Lesson to all potential visitors though… have your USD ready when you arrive. $10 for max 7 days stay, $25 for max 30 days (all you old hands out there can sit back and suck your eggs until I’ve finished this bit).
Ever since a travelling companion of mine got stung for a $50 backhander by the immigrassi I try and make sure I’ve only got enough USD to get the visa and carry limited amounts of other currency.
Back to the Norwegian, he paid by credit card eventually but it was fun watching the panic develop.
Anyway, got dropped at my hotel Ibis Mangga Dua and said I wouldn’t need the car for the rest of the day.
The Ibis is not in the same league as my usual hotel, Shangri La but as I’m paying it’ll suffice. I booked a bigger bed/room so I could have more space to entertain and I’ve ended up with what they call a suite but it is more like an apartment. Kitchen, dining room, lounge and extra bathroom. It’s a 20 minute walk to answer the door!
After getting settled I headed off for my first ‘pop’ of the holiday. After my last trip I had determined that I would make straight for the Delta Spa at Kelapa Gading and have a repeat performance with No 64, Cartika. A bit of an indulgence really as I had no idea if she would be there and I had noticed that there was a Delta Spa real close to my hotel.
A bluebird from the front of the hotel got me to Kelapa Gading and eventually, with my help, we found the spa.
I picked up my wristband and said I wanted to go straight up to the massage area and not use the spa facilities. When I got there I could see number 64 on the board but when I asked I was told she was still working and I would have to wait for 20 minutes. Should give me time for my first Bintang.
I only had a couple of mouthfuls of my beer though before I was directed to my room. I’d chosen the suite option with 3 sessions at 425k rupiah. Although I was freshly showered from the hotel I thought it right to have a room with a shower. Apparently not a view shared by Cartika who after recognising me from my last trip got straight into the massage.
This girl really is the sweetest personality. She was singing to herself whilst doing her job and chattering away in bahasa even though she knows I don’t speak much. After the hot rocks she lay down beside me and started to snuggle which was the biggest turn on.
As we were on our sides and she was pressing into me it didn’t take long for her to sense my growing hard-on (all natural for this session) and she started to play with my little bro.
During our previous session she had been reluctant to allow me anything other than an over the clothing grope of her tits but this time it didn’t take long before I had shirt and bra undone and those magnificent, firm, young tits were cupped in my eager hands. The stiffened nipples were fantastic and tended to the European norm rather than the Asian pencil erasers. She wouldn’t let me take them in my mouth though.
With the massage forgotten play soon developed into another spectacular combination dry hump and HJ which resulted in my violent and exquisite release of stored up protein which she made sure was completely milked out of me.
I am determined that this girl will eventually agree to see me outside of the Spa and that we (or at least I) will enjoy the full act. She is so expert at the HJ and dry hump keeping me on the verge of cumming for so long that I am sure she will be a memorable fuck. Language is proving a bit ofa barrier as my Bahasa is more limited than her English which is minimal. Next time I will be armed with my English-Indo, Indo-English kamus. I’ll keep you posted on my progress on my next Trip.
After she lovingly cleaned me up we lay and cuddled for a bit which was very GFE with Cartika gently stroking and caressing my cock and balls while giving my face and torso little kisses. Towards the end of the session time I was treated to an assisted shower, cleaned up and got back into my street clothes. She walked me back to the public area and I slipped a tip into her hand as we parted.
Down to the cashier I paid the bill and asked for a Bluebird to take me to the Hotel Melawi (report to follow).
Just to add my own experience of looking for these places that I'd read so much about.
I picked up a Bluebird outside my hotel (Ibis Mangga Dua) and showed the driver the address I had printed out ready for just this situation. Lots of discussion with his colleagues suggested that he didn't know where I wanted to go. At this point I mentioned Bakery Suisse and the penny seemed to drop with one of his mates who chattered to my driver and we were on our way. I don't remember how long the journey was but I eventually saw a sign that suggested that we were on the Jalan Hayam Wuruk and I started to keep an eye out.
Suddenly a shop sign for Bakery Suisse passed through my view and I called the driver to stop. I ascertained that we were indeed in Hayam Wuruk and told him we had passed the bakery. It turned out that he had been directed by his mate to the Holland Bakery. Any way I paid and started the search.
We had passed 2 or 3 alleys since I had seen the Bakery Suisse and as I couldn't remember whether the directions I had read on this board talked of an alley to the left or right of the bakery I looked in all of them.
Some of these alleys are not the best advertisement for Jakarta or Indonesia and I felt like a fish out of water but kept looking.
I eventually came back to the Bakery Suisse but this is a much smaller establishment than I had expected and it is set back under the overhanging first floor of the building and quite difficult to see with all the street vendors out front.
As you look at the bakery the alley with Kartika in is directly on your left and the Kartika sign can be seen from the main road at the end and on the right of the fairly short alley.
Hope this helps some other Kartika newbie. Report of visit to follow.
SKIf going by Taxi ask to go to Terminal Bayangan Olimo. It is a bus terminal on the south east corner of Jl Hayam Wuruk and Jl Mangabesar. There you can see the bakery. Kartika and Berlian are located in the lane next to the bakery.
JuaraBercinta
07-29-07, 03:54
Excuse this first "virgin" posting from the veteran mongerers, such as the infamous John Aldrich (I bumped into your friend Sunny from Exxon, whilst transiting from Singapore to UK not so long ago!), Smoothy, Knight 1001, Rainman, 1Ball, Joel Goodson, Sapperken and last but not least, Mighty Spearsman.
Would like to meet up with any/all of you, logistics permitting, so we can exchange comical anecdotes on 2nd, 3rd, or 4th August 2007! Maybe Sportsman on jalan Paletehan around 7-8pm?
This forum is magnificent, and has to be applauded.
It would be a travesty of sexual justice and sharing vital adult knowledge to the discerning travellers amongst us, or simply those who wish to be educationally empowered, trying to deal with the most confusing race - women!
This forum dispenses very accurate (and updated) sexual, medical, touristic, moral and emotional advice.
Bravo Jackson - for the brainchild of this forum.
Having not visited fair Jakarta (and Bali) for a while - it would be great to meet up with such an intelligent diversity of opinion from those discerning menfolk, and would value catching up with the current "cuching liar pulse"!!
Cheers - please confirm.
Billy Baht
07-30-07, 11:40
I don’t think AFF is a scam. Hard-sell marketing for sure, and lots of annoying pop-up’s to up-sell and cross-sell even after you buy a paid membership. But the basic product of people actively seeking sex is for real.
I can’t comment on AFF in the United States because I play only in Asia, and mostly in Indonesia. But I can tell you for sure that AFF Malaysia and Thailand are both excellent sources for freebies, and I plan to try Vietnam within the next month. Stay tuned and stay grateful that Indonesian women are as hot as they are. Treat them all well, because they do share stories about us.
Hope that helps, fellow seekers.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Great post Poonhound. I am a regular AFF member and I've scored a few freebies that I've met online there.
One negative to report. This my first time arriving on a Saturday and if the queues for Visa and immigration are likely to be as long in the next time I will be avoiding similar itineraries in the future.
One way to avoid standing in the queue is to approach one of the Immigration Officers standing on the right-hand side. In fact, when they see you walking towards them, they will come up to you to ask what you need.
Make sure you have Rp 50,000 in between the pages of your passport, and say, "Minta tolong, Pak." He will flick through the pages, see the money, and ask you to walk through and wait, while he goes into one of the rooms and gets your passport stamped. It used to be very rampant previously, and stopped for about a year, but it seems this "special service" is back, as I made use of it just last month.
Being a regular visitor, I have made it a habit of putting money in my passport when I go in, AND when I leave (even when I queue up). It prevents the hassles of being continually asked what I am doing making so many trips to Jakarta.
It's amazing the change in their attitude once they see the money, and even the female officers (some of whom are quite pretty!) flash a smile.
Best,
Panya
Dick Nasty
07-30-07, 20:54
Panya,
the visa booth is different from the immigration booth, did you approach the immigration booth without getting the visa 1st, or did you get a visa 1st then sli[ the Rp50.000 at the immigration booth.
I wouldn't wanna line up for the visa, is there a quick way?
DN
Selamat pagi everyone. Thanks for the AR info. I am getting ready to fly to Jakarta, and have a question about cell phones. I would like to buy one at Pasaraya mall. Is there a good place to buy an inexpensive cell phone that uses a phone card for adding time? How much? I don't want to buy a monthly subscription as I will only be there for a few weeks, and I don't want to spend lots of money. Just enough to call my girlfriends. Thanks in advance for your advice.
Mature Man
07-30-07, 21:30
Hi MPH,
Thanks a heap. That was quite informative
And from someone who has actually benefited. Looks like i will now view AFF in a new light.
Cheers
I don’t think AFF is a scam. Hard-sell marketing for sure, and lots of annoying pop-up’s to up-sell and cross-sell even after you buy a paid membership. But the basic product of people actively seeking sex is for real.
I have said a couple of times that we are all damn lucky to be playing in Indonesia, whether at the 5-star-hotel hooker bars or the Kota knock-shops or at Blok-M. I think that good luck carries over into AdultFriendFinder, especially if you are a bule.
Go back through the past several screens worth of messages and read what Mangga and Mandiri and Pak Mike (maybe some others also) have to say. I agree with what they have said about the motivations and behavior of the wanita jelita (lovely ladies). But here is my similar story.
I have met dozens of women from Jakarta that I found on AFF in the 4 months since I bought a membership, which costs me around US$12 per month. There are more expensive options for membership, but I went with the budget-ticket. Dozens means more than 30 ladies for those of you keen on miscellaneous details (grin).
Only one woman asked me for money. That was for her taxi fare, which I usually offer anyway, unless I have reason to believe that my friend is very well-heeled and may be offended by the offer. Depending on where the lady lives in relation to my central-Jakarta hotel, I give anywhere from 50k to 150k for taxi on my own initiative. Menteng gets 50k, and Bogor or Bekasi gets 150k, if you wonder how I decide, but I’m not perfect on my knowledge of greater Jakarta geography. Only the one woman (a classy 40-something Sundanese sales promoter) asked for it, and she asked by sms before she ever got into the taxi to come see me.
And just like some others have reported, a few women were shocked (borderline offended) that I offered them even taxi money. One that I gave 100k to gave me back 80k smiling sweetly and telling me that her parking at the hotel was only 20k. She had driven herself there, same as a paediatrician (yes, a medical doctor), a university lecturer, and a couple of wealthy tai-tais (married wives). They all have their own cars, and good jobs. This is one reason they like bules. Less chance that we will be patients or ex-students, or spouses of neighbors, etc.
Two weeks ago I had a three-some (yes, there are also women who hunt in pairs on AFF under the category “couples: 2 women”) Life is really too good in Indonesia (full smile). One was an older engineer (late 30’s) and her friend was a secretary (20-something). After a really fantastic session, I slipped 50k each into their pockets (for taxi-mu). While the younger one was in the toilet putting on lipstick, the older one handed me back my 50k, telling me that it was nice of me, but that I should give only to the younger one because her salary isn’t so high. Implicit message was “I have my pride”. Incidentally, I did her again, by herself, over her lunch hour the very next day. Wonderful!
For the sceptics reading this, there are definitely some women who are hooking for dollars or SugarDaddies on the AFF site, and their profiles say so explicitly. The code words are “looking for generous men”, or “take me shopping”, or “want to be treated as a courtesan”. My guesstimate is that maybe 1 out of 15 or 1 out of 20 profiles are like this, at least explicitly. Single digit percentage only, and I simply avoid those women. Many more may well be open to the cash-for-gash trade-off, but we all know how sweet the women can be, even though they may not have much money. When I want to pay (which is still often – grin), then I prefer to call one of my done-her-before “sure thing” professional friends, or go look for fresh pussy myself at BATS or D’s Place.
Finally, for those of you convinced that AFF is a scam in terms of the site itself ripping you off, I think that is nonsense. Sure they charge a fee, and if you are worried about not being able to cancel your credit card, just send them a money-order like I do. I can’t risk any unexplained charges on my cards because my wife vets the bills carefully. Still not persuaded, then do an internet search on AdultFriendfinder, or on the founder, Andrew Conru. Even the Wall Street Journal has been writing about how “Adult” dating sites flourish all over the world as people choose sex over love. Good for all of us friends of Jackson (smile again). Remember we are here to share experiences about meeting women for sex. Not only meeting women that we pay for sex. Hubba-hubba!
I can’t comment on AFF in the United States because I play only in Asia, and mostly in Indonesia. But I can tell you for sure that AFF Malaysia and Thailand are both excellent sources for freebies, and I plan to try Vietnam within the next month. Stay tuned and stay grateful that Indonesian women are as hot as they are. Treat them all well, because they do share stories about us.
Hope that helps, fellow seekers.
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It's easy to get a second hand cellphone (they call them hand phones in Jakarta or "hp's", pronounced "ha pay"), also they refer to used ones as just "seconds". You can find loads of them in Ambassador mall and numerous other places. Generally they are quite cheap as they are still such a fashion accessory that as soon as new model comes, the old ones are worthless.
If you have an old US or UK one which only works on a specific network you can get them unblocked in Ambassador so they take local SIM card .
Thanks Bulai. Is Ambassador near to Pasaraya? I know there is a lower quality mall behind Pasayara. I don't know what its called. It would be fun to hook up with you, or other pooners, while I am there. Anyone interested in going to Blok M?
Dear friends,
I have just arrived in Jakarta and need help to sort out some basic need:) Wonder is there any fellow mongers can help for an overnighter. Please provide number. Will provide field report later on.
Thanks
Knight 1001
07-31-07, 18:37
As you appear to have access to internet, here are links to maps which will show you where Ambassador Mall and Roxymas mall are located. Any dumb taxi driver, half blind and deaf, would get you there. The problem may be where you'll want to go after that .....
Ambassador Mall:
http://www.streetdirectory.com/indonesia/jakarta/travel.php?travel_id=136&travel_site=42&travel_no=&x=702073.6500&y=9311707.1900&star=1&viewmode=&level=6#map
On the other hand, the shopping mall behind Pasaraya is called Malawai plaza and they have an upper (3rd ?) floor where I have seen some scarce shops selling phones and phone cards. I wouldn't go there for buying a phone.
Go to either Ambassador mall or ITC Roxy Mas (Shopping Mall), which is so big and packed with only phone shops, it will get you dizzy.
http://www.streetdirectory.com/indonesia/jakarta/travel/travel_id_129/travel_site_106/travel_no_No.+125/
If you want to meet up, post the time and place here and the bros who can make it will find you.
Cheers.
Thanks Bulai. Is Ambassador near to Pasaraya? I know there is a lower quality mall behind Pasayara. I don't know what its called. It would be fun to hook up with you, or other pooners, while I am there. Anyone interested in going to Blok M?
Selamat pagi everyone. Thanks for the AR info. I am getting ready to fly to Jakarta, and have a question about cell phones. I would like to buy one at Pasaraya mall. Is there a good place to buy an inexpensive cell phone that uses a phone card for adding time? How much? I don't want to buy a monthly subscription as I will only be there for a few weeks, and I don't want to spend lots of money. Just enough to call my girlfriends. Thanks in advance for your advice.
Although all the suggestions for places like Ambassador and Roxy Mas are completely accurate in that they are the cheapest place to buy a phone, you can buy a 2nd hand phone at Pasa Raya itself quite easily as well. As long as you are just looking for a cheap model, it won't make alot of difference where you pick it up. They sell them in the bottom level of Pasa Raya opposite Ace Hardware. I bought mine at Blok M plaza which is a mall fairly close to Pasa Raya. Brand new, mine cost 400,000 rupiah. But I bought one of the older model nokias with no camera functionality. You can find them for upwards of 5 million, and if that's what you're looking for then definitely go to Ambassador or Roxy Mas.
Hi,
I need to take a client to a massage place for a massage and a fuck -- he wants that.The fuck needs to be clear from the start (ie no situation where it's hit or miss and my client gets to fuck if the girl is willing). I need a high-end place where we can have jacuzzi/pool etc prior to the "main course".
I have RTFF and I know places like Hotel Travel (no jacuzzi/pool section if I recall correctly), Delta (can't remember if they have a package with guaranteed screw). Berlian and Kartika are just too low-end for him.
What would you guys suggest if you too were to take a high-end client with you to a high-end massage place with a guaranteed massage+fuck in a clean environment ?
Many thanks in advance,
I wouldn't wanna line up for the visa, is there a quick way?DN
Hi,
I also often used a guy who works at the Golden Bird taxi counter, where for Rp 100,000 per head, he can meet you/guests from the plane and escort you through Immigration. I have sent him an sms on whether he can handle the "Visa On Arrival" so that you won't have to queue up, and how much he would charge.
Will PM you on his reply.
Best,
Panya
High End with Packages and nice Spa facilities
1) Beverly Hills Spa near Stasion Kota
2) Sumo in Kelapa Gading
3) Emporium near Pasar Baru
4) Classics Spa also near Pasar Baru
5) Marioboro on Hayum Wuruk has awesome facilities and lots of great selection in an upscale environment. But while the sex is gauranteed the massage isn't!
6) Alexis Hotel
I am sure there are others as well.
Stay away from Delta if you looking for full service. I am sure a few big swinging dicks will claim to get it there, but it is definitely not on the stadard menu.
Hi,
I need to take a client to a massage place for a massage and a fuck -- he wants that.The fuck needs to be clear from the start (ie no situation where it's hit or miss and my client gets to fuck if the girl is willing). I need a high-end place where we can have jacuzzi/pool etc prior to the "main course".
I have RTFF and I know places like Hotel Travel (no jacuzzi/pool section if I recall correctly), Delta (can't remember if they have a package with guaranteed screw). Berlian and Kartika are just too low-end for him.
What would you guys suggest if you too were to take a high-end client with you to a high-end massage place with a guaranteed massage+fuck in a clean environment ?
Many thanks in advance,
I have sms-ed my Golden Bird contact and this is what he can do:
1. Let him know in advance via sms your arrival date/time/flight number. Please be informed that he works in shifts, and there are many Golden Bird counters where he can be stationed --so some advance arrangement is needed.
2. On your arrival, there are escalators/steps that you go down after disembarking from your plane. He will be waiting for you at the bottom of the steps with your name on a sheet of paper.
3. He will walk with you to the "Visa On Arrival", take your documents and deal directly with the Immigration Officer without having to queue. While this is being done, you will wait for him nearby the "Visa On Arrival" counter.
4. After that, he will walk with you to the Immigration counter where he will "clear" you through, and you wait for him near the smoking area/toilet entrance. He will handle the Immigration formalities for you.
For this, he would like to charge RP 150,000 per head (he claims that he has to give at least Rp 100k to the officers at both counters). For those who are interested, you can send me a PM, and I will provide his name and mobile phone number. For god's sake, don't even for a minute think I am getting a commission out of this!!
I find that the downside of this arrangement is that sometimes there are NO QUEUES at all when you arrive, but you will still have to pay him for showing up! :(
DICK NASTY --> I pay the RP 50,000 at the Immigration counter, as I don't need a Visa On Arrival, being Malaysian.
Best,
Panya
High End with Packages and nice Spa facilities
1) Beverly Hills Spa near Stasion Kota
2) Sumo in Kelapa Gading
3) Emporium near Pasar Baru
4) Classics Spa also near Pasar Baru
5) Marioboro on Hayum Wuruk has awesome facilities and lots of great selection in an upscale environment. But while the sex is gauranteed the massage isn't!
6) Alexis Hotel
I am sure there are others as well.
Stay away from Delta if you looking for full service. I am sure a few big swinging dicks will claim to get it there, but it is definitely not on the stadard menu.Thanks a lot, I appreciate it Will report back.
Morepoonhound
08-01-07, 20:00
If you are going for the fat, ugly ones, I don't think there's much need to use AFF. Just go to any bar and take one home. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to accomodate you. There's an old comedy bit by Andrew Dice Clay where he says "with diseases and women's attitudes today, sex is too much trouble". So his plan is to find the fattest, ugliest mutt in the bar and take her home. Some chick nobody else has even thought of fuckin'. He says that type of girl really appreciates the sex and will do anything to please you. And you have little to no chance of catching any disease.
I don't subscribe to that theory, but it's a theory.Great post, Smoothy. You may be right that the "plus-size" women are abundant out there (grin), but they are also very well represented on AFF – even in Indonesia.
I am not willing to post a photo of myself on AFF, so in the spirit of "do unto others", neither do I ask to see a photo of my prospective partners first. Not that it matters, as my story will make plain, but meeting women who are "living large" is one of the natural hazards of the AFF lifestyle.
I’m not sure which of lying about age or lying about weight is number-1 versus number-2, but while I don’t really care how old a woman is if she is well-turned-out, I damn-sure care how fat a woman is. So, yes I have met a 50-year-old woman pretending to be 34 who was hot enough that I invited her to my hotel room to do the deed. But I draw the line at giving the dick to a 100 kg woman pretending to be 100 pounds.
Which reminds me of an old joke: How do you know when your girlfriend is too fat? When she sits on your face and you can’t hear the stereo. (ba dum pum)
AFF has a profile question about body-type which includes desirable (for me) types like slim/petite, average and athletic. Also one border-line type called "a little extra padding", and two out-of-bounds types (again, out-of-bounds only for me) called ample and large. It turns out they need two other types called "I’m a total hog" and "I’m bigger than a fucking whale", because I have met women at least that size who must not have answered correctly, since ample and large didn’t really do justice to their great-round-mound shapes.
Although I "also" don’t subscribe to Smoothy’s theory (see his quoted message above), I know there are a fair-few fella’s who believe that "the bigger the cushion, then the better the pushin", so I offer a straight-up tip for the chubby-chasers among the readers here. The tip is that there are many plus-size women on AFF. Lots of them say they are heavy quite honestly, and the larger ladies often also have large sex-drives. Here is an example, with verbatim language from a profile of a lady who contacted me just last week. No, I didn’t do the deed with her, guys! But as you can see, she is ready and willing if YOU want to go for it. Her handle says "sweet, sexy, passionate, exotic bit**", and her profile includes pictures of some disturbingly large breasts, queen-size pillows really, as well as a naked shot of her shaved slit with a dildo inserted in her ass. Read all about it below, with original typo's left unchanged.
BEGIN QUOTE: "I m a horny woman I m big in size and I m not ashamed of that I have big boops big round ass I have a exotic sweet face I love to have fun go crazy sometimes I love to suck the dick lick the balls I love long foreplays lots of kissing licking and sucking and fingering I love to be fucked doggy style while you spank my ass and call me real dirty names my fantasy is to be blindfolded tied and helpless so you guys out there if interested just mail me wi will respond.
Looking for a guy a lover shorterm onenightstand longterm is ok who is nice sweet kind romantic and don't mind big girls who likes to have fun who likes big sexy sluts like me funny a guy who can accept my body size and who don't care as long as we both have fun and go wild love lots of foreplay before penetration lets have fun to the utmost go out for lunches and cofee sumtimes hot wild sex I like ffm I wanna try mmf please mail me I will respond to you. " END QUOTE:
Why do I say that even checking their pictures doesn’t ensure that you won’t meet the BBW’s? Because one woman I met had a lovely, full-face shot with an athletic-looking bare upper arm showing on her profile. Turns out the picture was really her, but a version of her dating back 35 kg earlier. A second woman I met sent me a stunning picture of a fox in a leather dress (not really my thing, but it still looked hot). Then a different woman than the photo turned up wearing a jilbab (I am dead serious) and sporting maybe 50 kg more than her ideal weight of 50 kg. There is more to "this" story, but I will save that for some other posting.
Which reminds me of another old joke: How do you fuck a fat chick? Just roll her flour and look for the wet spot. (loud groaning: ok, sorry, no more jokes then)
I have a couple more "tricked into meeting the actually-a-tubbo" stories, but maybe I had best save them for another post, since this message is overlong already. To close though, two points. First point, there are definitely many excellent, hot and sexy women on AFF Indonesia. Don’t worry, they are not all BBW’s. I had the rare treat of fucking three different ones yesterday who I would be willing to pay if I met them in a hooker-bar (that’s right, I’m bragging. Wouldn’t you be? ).
Second (and the main) point of this "chubby chaser" posting is that there are also many plus-size women on AFF Indonesia, they are mostly freebies, and they seem to be relatively easier to score with if livin’ large is your thing. It's not mine, but if you like to indulge, then please treat these ladies-looking-for-love nicely also, guys. At least offer to pay their taxi (the real cab-fare, not a euphemism for paying for sex).
Morepoonhound
08-02-07, 02:54
Over the past few months much of my poon-chasing energy has shifted to the (amateur) women looking for sex on AFF. But that has more to do with not being able to afford to taste all the pussy I want on my never-enough poontang budget. Certainly nothing wrong with the sweet strumpets selling booty in the many places commented on so many times in this forum. AFF supplements my habit considerably (thank goodness), but I can't say that I have cut back much on spending for working girls.
I am less adventurous than some on this board, so I prefer the hotel hooker-bars to places like Jalan Jaksa, Stadium and TC. One of my favorite spots for take-away remains BATS at the ShangriLa. And even though there are definitely ladies looking for serious money there, it is still possible to find attractive and enthusiastic partners for 500k rupiah without too much trouble. Two better-than-average sweet-hearts that entertained me last month (different nights: not a 3-some, sadly) were called Nadia and Fatmawati.
Nadia is at BATS most nights and is relatively tall for a Javanese woman. Claims mid-20’s, and that may be right as she has a wonderful pair of soft and shapely breasts, probably a generous see-cup. Trimmed beaver, pretty face, and a fun and friendly partner, but she has trouble staying wet. Do an extended muff-dive (worked for me the first time) or plan to have some lubricant (second and third times, when I called her to come straight to my hotel), and you will still have a good time with Nadia. She is an educated lady and has a full-time sales job during the day now, but she has done the circuit, working in Singapore, HongKong and so on. Interestingly she prefers the bar at the Hyatt in Singapore, and won’t work Orchard Towers.
Fatma is a late-20's gym-bunny who belongs to Celebrity Fitness and hits the gym for several hours virtually every day. Dark-brown skin and an unconventionally attractive face. Flat as an airport runway, though she has lovely, sensitive nipples. Fatma has strikingly hot-looking legs, the sort of ass you might expect from so much investment in aerobics, and killer abs. She likes to drink hard, she fucks like the energizer bunny, and gave me a total GFE. I hadn’t seen her in BATS before, nor have I looked for her there since, because I thought to collect her phone number for repeat engagements without BATS benefiting from our cover charges.
Both ladies accepted 500k with a kiss and without discussion, and neither mentioned price before coming back to my hotel and rocking my world. I highly recommend both of these sweeties, gentlemen and you know exactly where to find them. Indonesia is so excellent!
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It's interesting that Morepoonhound mentions Celebrity Fitness in connection with his "girlfriend" from BATS; if she is regular there (there are 4 or 5 in Jakarta) then for sure she must have some "boyfriend" benefactor who is paying her regularly as it's unlikely she would be able/willing to fund membership on "only" 500k a session even if she was doing it every night.
This makes Celebrity Fitness centres, in my view, a good hunting ground for more upmarket girls. A lot of girls who go there (I'm thing mainly of eX) do so as much for posing and looking out for men to throw money at them as they do to keep fit though of course these activities are not unrelated.
Approaching girls there requires a more subtle approach than, for example, Atrium mall! I've had one (very good) girl from eX Celebrity Fitness in maybe 4 or 5 attempts by hanging around in the entrance area pretending I was waiting for someone and asking girls coming out if they had seen my (imaginary) friend inside. Pathetic I know: but it worked (20% of the time anyway)
I went to the Block M bars same evening. Had great trouble explaining to the (several) taxi drivers where I wanted to go. Block M they understood, they want to take me to the mall. I explain girlie bars, Top Gun, D's place. I make drinking sign with my hand, draw hourglass figure, say cewek. .........At one point one of the taxi drivers at the mall called over several other drivers, and we went around for several minutes on this. Finally one taxi driver spoke english with me and we figured it out.HAH, exactly what happened to me as well. Twice. :( Finally I just kept one of the business cards from Top Gun (aint married and don't care what others think I do for travel) for future reference.
Hmm it's fun buying pitchers of beer and have 3-5 girls there just baby you and drink with you.
Morepoonhound
08-03-07, 11:00
It's interesting that Morepoonhound mentions Celebrity Fitness in connection with his "girlfriend" from BATS; if she is regular there (there are 4 or 5 in Jakarta) then for sure she must have some "boyfriend" benefactor who is paying her regularly as it's unlikely she would be able/willing to fund membership on "only" 500k a session even if she was doing it every night.
This makes Celebrity Fitness centres, in my view, a good hunting ground for more upmarket girls. A lot of girls who go there (I'm thing mainly of eX) do so as much for posing and looking out for men to throw money at them as they do to keep fit though of course these activities are not unrelated.
Approaching girls there requires a more subtle approach than, for example, Atrium mall! I've had one (very good) girl from eX Celebrity Fitness in maybe 4 or 5 attempts by hanging around in the entrance area pretending I was waiting for someone and asking girls coming out if they had seen my (imaginary) friend inside. Pathetic I know: but it worked (20% of the time anyway)Bulai69,
I stand in awe. Here I am searching the line-up for women with athletic bodies (my favourite), in BATS or D’s Place or similar, and my hit-rate is maybe 1 in 20 on a good night and more like 1 in 40. You on the other hand, go straight to the source. Even if only half the women coming out of the gym have tight bodies, with your 1 in 5 success-rate, you are still working much better odds. You sir, are a hard-core hunter.
About eX, for those less familiar with Jakarta, Bulai is describing the Celebrity Fitness (CF) outlet at the extension (eX) mall attached to Plaza Indonesia. I haven’t mastered the art of the mall-hunt (yet – grin), but for sure eX has got heavy female traffic because of all the shops and restaurants. So waiting outside the CF entrance in the eX mall sounds like a strategy with good potential for straight mall-hunting as well as for the gym-bunny possibilities.
On whether a lady needs a sugar-daddy to afford CF membership, I think that is debateable because of what I just learned from another gym-bunny who fucked me almost senseless earlier this week. This is an amateur I found on AFF. 29 years old, and a single school-teacher living with her parents, who gets off work at 4, met me at 5 (I don’t get off so early – smile), and was naked by 5:10. Well, not "totally" naked. By 5:10 she had her panties off, her be-cup bra unhooked, her skirt up around her waist and my mouth fastened firmly on her well-trimmed and deliciously plump labia. It was probably more like 5:45 before she was "totally" naked, and she left a remarkably big wet patch on the chair in my hotel-room where we first got to know each other. The next guest better put down a towel (grin again). But I digress, so back to what I learned about CF.
Lia belongs to a CF outlet in South Jakarta and she spends 3 hours there after work, doing salsa or hip-hop dancing aerobics classes, on days when she isn’t doing horizontal bone-dancing with a fuck-buddy. We had time to talk during the 3+ hours she stayed and she really only has two hobbies. Working-out and fucking (Yay! ). She pays around 400k rupiah per month for her membership, but it turns out there are memberships from as low as 250k (no towels and shower at home) and ranging up to 900k per month (probably the sugar-daddy funded option).
So here is a tip for anyone with a short-term horizon, and thick enough skin to resist the relentless hard-sell of the CF staff. CF offers a 1-week free-trial, so if you find too many fellow poon-hunters crowding the entrance as a result of Bulai69’s great suggestion, you can move in to the gym itself to check out an aerobics class full of bunnies in full bounce.
Be careful in the shower if you join CF though. By reputation, CF is famously popular with gays. If you think about it, the presence of all those dick-smokers is another reason why you may do well to hunt there. Not much chance that the gays are going to be hitting on the gym-bunnies, so less (male) competition for you. My tip for all of you is that women who like to dance are usually enthusiastic about riding a dick as well. Bulai69 has told you where to go already, so please write and tell us all about your success stories.
Second (and the main) point of this "chubby chaser" posting is that there are also many plus-size women on AFF Indonesia, they are mostly freebies, and they seem to be relatively easier to score with if livin’ large is your thing. It's not mine, but if you like to indulge, then please treat these ladies-looking-for-love nicely also, guys. At least offer to pay their taxi (the real cab-fare, not a euphemism for paying for sex).
Spot on Morepoonhound, sums up my experiences on AFF so far to a tee. That place is heaving with seriously large nymphomaniacs! Yes I've made contact with a couple of regular sized ladies, some of which I am following up but I have to say for the most part the girls are supersized deluxe and they're not slow telling you how they want it. Who knew Jakarta was coming down (literally) with so many chubby (putting it mildly) sex fiends?
I have been promised all sorts of wild sex, you name your perversion they are up for it, with photos to prove it, but man I just can't bring myself to do it, I feel tempted but then I take another look at the pictures and I realise I could never go through with it.
As regards the payment option in my experience these girls might ask for taxi money if they're coming from Bekasi or Depok but by and large(sic) they just want the sex and the wilder the better. So if jumbo size sex is what you're into then AFF is your place to be.
Morepoonhound
08-03-07, 13:42
Spot on Morepoonhound, sums up my experiences on AFF so far to a tee. That place is heaving with seriously large nymphomaniacs! Yes I've made contact with a couple of regular sized ladies, some of which I am following up but I have to say for the most part the girls are supersized deluxe and they're not slow telling you how they want it. Who knew Jakarta was coming down (literally) with so many chubby (putting it mildly) sex fiends?
I have been promised all sorts of wild sex, you name your perversion they are up for it, with photos to prove it, but man I just can't bring myself to do it, I feel tempted but then I take another look at the pictures and I realise I could never go through with it.
As regards the payment option in my experience these girls might ask for taxi money if they're coming from Bekasi or Depok but by and large(sic) they just want the sex and the wilder the better. So if jumbo size sex is what you're into then AFF is your place to be.Ah, dorman I laughed my ass off when I read your post. Been there (have not) done that. I was flat-out horrified by the size of one lady that it sounds like you have at least corresponded with. Conclusion: I ain’t sticking my harpoon in that. Oh my word! And the word i’m thinking of is whale, biiiig fucking whale. And with tits the size of an elephant!
So here is my story. Absolutely true because you can’t make stuff that is this frightening up, unless maybe you are stephen king. It may help to explain that there are a few features of aff that let you know someone is checking you out. One of these is the "who viewed you" log, and another is the "hotlist" feature. I use the hotlist to flag women whose profiles I am interested in for later contact, but evidently the fatties use the hotlist feature as an attempt to flirt with men they want to hear from.
One woman who features bum-slapping very prominently all over her profile (did she frighten you, too dorman? ) hotlisted me, and then viewed me daily for the better part of a week when I didn’t respond to her hotlist. Finally, she sent me an email full of really nasty things that she wanted to do to me and with me and to herself and with herself and (well, you get the picture).
When I checked out her profile, it was 5-star kinky while I top-out more around 2-star kinky. I draw the line at eating pussy and ffm three-somes. No bondage, no s&m, no role-playing, definitely no [CodeWord119] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord119), no rimming, and on the couple of occasions when I ventured up to eden in Bangkok (thai travellers will be familiar), I didn’t make use of any of the toys on offer, other than the pussies, mouths and nipples, of course (grin). So against my better judgement, I wrote back to this woman and we exchanged several emails. To my surprise, she wrote well and sounded intelligent enough to be interesting.
One more warning sign was that for body-type, ms bum-slapper checked the "a little extra padding" box. Silly me, I assumed that a little extra padding would be on the order of 10 kg for an average sized woman, or maybe 15 kg for a tall (say 1. 75 m) woman like this lady claimed to be. I can live with that. It’s not my favourite type of female body, but so long as the lady is chubby rather than fat, I can still do her with a "chubby" of my own, using the school-boy euphemism for an erection.
As our story continues, I agreed to meet this queen of kink one night after a business dinner, around 10 pm. The up-side was that 10 is too late to attract most of the "good" girls from aff to start a date, and I figured if she was too terrible, then bats would be just warming up if I needed to punt on the freebie and score some professional-poon. The down-side was that at 10 pm the mall nearby my hotel is closed, so little choice but to meet in the hotel lobby and go straight to my room. Hmmmm. Danger, danger!
When I called her to confirm, just before I started my dinner function, she asked "do you want me to bring my toys? " what toys, I wanted to know. "oh, I have hand-cuffs and blind-fold and anal-beads, butt-plugs, dildos and a bullet. And I have chocolate body frosting". What the fuck! I should have guessed then when I learned that she likes toys with high calorie counts. Instead I said "the only toys I need are pussy-mu and nipples-mu, but knock yourself out, bring whatever you like for yourself. "
I hadn’t seen her photo. I explained in an earlier posting here, why that’s practically useless as a screening device anyway, and worst case you waste a little time on a meeting before saying "tidak terima-kasih" (no thank you). So she described what she would be wearing – a bright red top and black stretch pants.
She sms’d me from the taxi when she was near the hotel, and to my horror, when I reached the lobby to meet her, I ran into a former colleague who was waiting in the lobby for some friends to come down so they could go out drinking. Since that was a disaster in the making, I quickly zipped out to the taxi stand and crossed my fingers hoping that my "date" would turn up and I could sneak her in the back entrance before my "friends" trooped out the front. I’m a healthy guy, but this was not good for my blood pressure.
Oh my goodness! When she launched herself out of the taxi, the vehicle moved up about a good 10 inches. She was as big as a fucking house. I would guess 120 or maybe 130 kg easily. There should be a law against women her size wearing red. Much less stretch-pants! As she waddled towards me with that side-to-side rolling motion really fat people walk with, my blood pressure went to near heart-attack. The only saving grace was that if anyone saw me with her, there was no way they would think I was up to no good. Who on earth would fuck a woman that size. I mean really!
I quickly calculated the odds of a scene if I dumped her on first meeting, right there at the taxi-stand. I concluded that since she is so kinky, she would probably be loud and ugly about it. Oh yeah, I should mention that she was plenty ugly even with her mouth shut. I nearly swore off my poon habit right there. Hugely fat and truly ugly is not a good combination, gentlemen. In case any of you were wondering.
So I did the cowardly thing and said, "nice to meet you. Cepat, cepat, we have to go around the back way, karena barangkali my friends will see me. " and I snuck through the staff entrance and took her up to my room in the service lift, wondering how in the hell I get myself into these things.
Once in the room, I immediately said "look, I want to be straight with you. You are not my type, and I don’t want to have sex with you". Yes, I actually said those words to a female who was horny and in my hotel room (grin). Then, reverting to coward, "you write so well that I think we can still have an interesting conversation though. Mau minum? (would you like a drink? ). "
Yes, she did, and fortunately I buy orange juice by the litre at a mini-mart to stock my room refrigerator, or she would have cost me a fortune in mini-bar charges the way she drank. She must have drained 3 sizeable glasses of orange juice before I cut her off with "why not you finish your drink, and I will take you back downstairs now. "
We could have fun laughing about the stories she told me, between big gulps of juice. But I don’t want to spoil "all" the surprises for any chubby-chasers reading this who think she sounds like just their type (grin again). I will simply say that she is full of drama, and most of her stories involve more than one man at a time, and her taking it up the ass (just imagine the size of that ass. Yuck! )
That’s not all folks. After packing her safely off (I gave her 200k taxi fare just because I was so grateful to be rid of her whalishness), I headed to bats and had a very pedestrian fuck from a skinny-as-a-rail (can you blame me) lady called susie. Not recommended, but bats isn’t the point of this story anyway. The point is that at 2 am, my simpati beeped an incoming message. Since I was still awake on the tail-end of susie (pun intended), I read the sms. Of course it was from my fat not-friend, saying "i just wrote you an email, please check".
I left the email for morning, expecting to see "thank you for being such a gentleman". Instead, I was astounded to read a full-page worth of scolding and anger along the lines of "you broke your promise. I was so horny and I was counting on having fun. But you broke your promise to enjoy with me. Yadda yadda yadda. "
So gentlemen, dorman is right. If super-sized deluxe sex-fiends are your thing, sign right up for aff. By the way, dorman, mangga, pak mike, mandiri and I (have I left anyone out? ) already have dibs on the slim/petite and athletic women on aff indonesia, of which there are actually plenty, truth be told. But if bbw’s are your thing fellas, sink your harpoon into one of these whales and then be sure to tell us all the story, right here.
Great site, jackson! I find this hugely entertaining, besides being a wonderful source of tips for chasing poon. Thank you very much.
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ProfDesigner
08-03-07, 14:15
All this talk of larger ladiesmade me remeber something I saw the otherday I laughed my tits off... If it offends anyone... sorry.
PS I apologise for the small size of the file, beyond my control
Lemon Tree
08-03-07, 14:19
PS I apologise for the small size of the file, beyond my control[/QUOTE]
Only one question: Did the guy survive?? :-))))
Lemon Tree
who knows why he prefers Thai ladies.
Mighty Spearsman
08-04-07, 02:08
No, this story is NOT about a woman who weighs over 120 kg. But since there have been several posts recently about finding freebies on AFF, I thought it useful to share this story:
A few weeks ago I was in Kota one weekday on business. Around 4:15 p.m. I walked over to the Transjakarta’s bus line at Kota to take the bus to Plaza Indonesia.
Walking in front of me to the ticket line and waiting line was an attractive, professionally dressed dark-skinned Indonesian woman in her late 30s, medium build, long black hair, wearing a jacket over a silk shirt buttoned up to her neck, a skirt to just below her knees and “work pumps” heels (i.e. not the stiletto heels that many hookers wear), but it was obvious that she had great legs and a good figure.
We struck up a conversation while waiting in line, friendly and polite, and I learned that she was a sales manager for a large insurance company, and that she was returning to her office after having met with a client.
Walked onto the bus and sat down towards the front, and to my surprise she sat down next to me and continued to talk, very friendly; she gave me her card and asked me for my cell phone number just before I got off the bus. Five minutes later I received a short sms from her, saying that she enjoyed talking with me and wanted to meet me again for a drink. I replied “fine, let me know when you are free.” Two days later, she sms’d me again, proposing that we meet at Chili’s (Sarinah Plaza) for drinks the following afternoon.
Met up at Chili’s at 4 p.m. the next day and, after some small talk about the weather and traffic, she got straight to the point – she was married with a nine-year-old son, but that the marriage had collapsed, she and her husband were living together only for the sake of their son, she no longer had sex with her husband, and that she was looking for someone to have fun sex with, namely me. Sounded good to me, and I started to look forward to our first session together.
Then the kicker. After saying lots of nice things about me as a way of explaining why she had picked me for this opportunity, she blurted out “I think you’re just wonderful. I’ve already told my nine-year-old son about you and I want you to meet him soon and be a role model for him.”
Oops! The last thing I need is to get involved in a potential marriage-wrecking situation, nor do I need or want to be a surrogate father to someone else’s kid. Luckily my cell phone beeped a minute later with an sms from a friend, I read it and, pretending that it was from my office, said “sorry, I have to get back to my office right away to send a fax to the U.S. before closing time,” left money to pay for the drinks and got up and left.
I then sent an sms to her later explaining that I was real busy at work and wouldn’t be able to see her anytime soon. She then sent a couple of sms’s over the next week saying hello and which I ignored, then I’ve never heard from her again.
Mighty Spearsman
08-04-07, 02:21
That´s the feeling I got when reading the other posts regarding this situation. But is it worth the hassle of canceling the trip? I only need one girl a day since I´m not a stud like Menteng or the Mighty Spearsman. I also prefer action in my hotel to going to discos, etc., although it would be nice to see some night time action.
Thanks for the compliment, however most days "once a king always a king, but once a knight is enough."
Please don't despair, as Smoothy and XXL pointed out, there's still a decent amount of action to be had here in Jakarta during Ramadan, between mall-hunting, out-call visits to hotels and at least a couple of massage parlors still open (e.g. I received a great massage and BJ from a non-Muslim female at Fortune Spa during Ramadan last year).
And I noticed that you have well over 1,100 posts on ISG, so frankly you deserve the highest respect and service from the resident senior members who live here in Jakarta. I personally promise to give you the cell phone numbers of Cynthia and several other cuties who I know would be more than happy to come to your hotel. So please don't cancel your visit!
PLEASE if you find a way to make it bigger PLEASE don't post it! That's really not my kind of body and I was having my tea when I openned it!
Morepoonhound - thanks for the compliment but honestly, it's not hard to do. As for membership rates I'm sure you are correct, my comments were based on what I know a few people are paying which is circa 1 million as you say for the "top end" membership. You are also correct about the predisposition of gays to join CF: again I'm referring to eX. I know several (friends of my "girlfriends") who go there but to be honest I would see be-friending them more as an asset than a liability because they can be a very good source of introductions to girls who would otherwise be much harder to find. I've even had virgins (well one anyway and another in the pipeline so to speak) from such a source as many who know me could confirm.
One thing I have to ask you - no offence - but why is your "hit rate" in BATS so low!? It's been posted in here a few times that circa 70% of the girls in there are hookers so if your hit rate is on average 1 in 30 it means if my arithmetic is correct, even when you try to score with a hooker, you fail to score 95% of the time! Surely not?!
You are just so charming I can imagine why that women wanted you as a role model! Likewise I can understand why you backed out - but I think this is a situation where Pak Menteng might be prepared to "help out" - getting her another "role model" would de-risk the situation for you I think.
I am making my way back to Jakarta late August.
I usually come early in the year but this year I will be coming later.
Can anyone tell me if there are any holidays or festivals that may interfere with mongering in late August early September.
I don't want to arrive and find the place dead.
By the way had a recent trip to Tanjong Balai Karim and it was excellent. Prices are lower and girls are just as good but the only thing to do there is drink, bonk and eat.
Ah, dorman I laughed my ass off when I read your post. Been there (have not) done that. I was flat-out horrified by the size of one lady that it sounds like you have at least corresponded with. Conclusion: I ain’t sticking my harpoon in that. Oh my word! And the word i’m thinking of is whale, biiiig fucking whale. And with tits the size of an elephant!
That is unquestionably the funniest report I have ever read on this forum and also the most frightening.
Your description of the meeting at the front of the hotel had me in tears laughing and the way you asked yourself how you get into these situations must have struck a chord with all the guys here who've let themselves get into situations where a future of life time celibacy seemed like a good option.
Why is it frightening? Because until I read your post I was one sms away from hooking up with your big pal! Come on, the photos she posts don't make her look too bad, she describes herself as "tall" rather than elephantine, she is persuasive when she describes what she wants from a man, no she hasn't got around to the toys with me yet but the availability of any orifice for whatever purpose I may desire has been made explicit - several times.
I was this close to saying "Ah what the hell, I'll go for it, she might be a wee bit on the chubby side but what's the worst that could happen?".
Thank you Morepoonhound, from the botom of my heart I thank you, I will be forever in your debt.
ProfDesigner
08-04-07, 11:47
PLEASE if you find a way to make it bigger PLEASE don't post it! That's really not my kind of body and I was having my tea when I openned it!
Haha, I agree totally, I swear there are four hot indonesian girls inside that body wanting to break out
I am making my way back to Jakarta late August.
I usually come early in the year but this year I will be coming later.
Can anyone tell me if there are any holidays or festivals that may interfere with mongering in late August early September.
I don't want to arrive and find the place dead.
By the way had a recent trip to Tanjong Balai Karim and it was excellent. Prices are lower and girls are just as good but the only thing to do there is drink, bonk and eat.Here you go:
http://www.expat.or.id/info/holidays.html
Robert Long
08-04-07, 16:28
Here you go:
http://www.expat.or.id/info/holidays.html
So Ramadan starts Sep 13 thru Oct 12 , and then Idul Fitri for the week following . Is that correct?
RL
Following Mongerxx’s response to my post and some advice coming from other sources, I entertained my client ar Alexis Hotel (ex Grand Ancol).
Upfront, I will mention here that this place is fantastic – very high-end, top service, clean, functional, beautiful girls from various countries.
Being stationed in the South of Jakarta and going to Alexis Hotel (even on a Saturday), it took me a good 60mn to reach the place using the toll. The place does not look much from the outside. We went to the Spa floor. Very nice spa, very clean, 3 jacuzzis at different water temperatures, plenty of (fake) trees, a fountain, a good lighting and relaxing background music make you feel you are outdoor in a very peaceful and relaxing environment. By the jacuzzis, a number of rooms where regular clean massages are being delivered (you can see thru because there is no door, there’s only a veil separating the room from the jacuzzi section). Going down a few stairs and this is the high-end bar with various groups of girls (groupped by origin: locals, PRC, Thai, Russia). This bar is very nice, with wooden floor, red curtains, comfy couches etc. Pricing vary from 600k for a local Indo up to 1. 8 M Rp to a so-called Thai model (PRC at 1. 5 M Rp). Most of the girls are good to very good looking – very few non-lookers. Pricing includes 30mn at the spa with the lady and 60mn in a bedroom.
I picked a local Indo gal, not a stunner, but firm titts and nice GFE attitude, for 600k. My client took a 1. 3M Rp Thai gal. Off we went to the jacuzzi, and it was paradise, sitting in the jacuzzi with my girl, her rubbing and massaging me very GFE-like, other couples engaged in the same activity. Great to bond and get the gal in a mood ahead of the upcoming bang!
We then moved on the bedroom, again very high-end, red curtains, a bed a la 5 Star hotel, private bathrrom with little pebbles on the floor, very spa-like. I enjoyed a great session where my gal gave me a great BBBJ for a good 15mn (I forgot to CBJ, it was so delightful and GFE-like! ) and she even came. Super GFE, a session to remember, especially with all the mirrors in the room, I was watching her suck me and then myself pumping away: I was a porn star! Great ego-booster!
By the way, my gal is number 119 by the name of Nike – Jakarta girl, claims she has worked there for 3 months, before that she was working in a Karaoke. Very petite but great firm titts, fantastic shaped small butt, very GFE with me. Highly recommended. I gave her a big tip, that’s how happy I was by the GFE.
My client enjoyed a great session too with his Thai provider. It was CBJ vs BBBJ on the menu there, as Thai gals are usually accustomed to (good on them! ).
Overall damage: spa+drinks+gals= 2. 8M Rp.
This is not your every day bang of course, but this is a great place to treat yourself every once in a while. Highly recommended. Very high-end.
Enjoy!
So Ramadan starts Sep 13 thru Oct 12 , and then Idul Fitri for the week following . Is that correct?
RLYes, Sir!
I forgot to mention that I was the only bule at Hotel Alexis, not a single bule there except me (and except the bule russian working girls ! LOL). Mostly local Indo guys, also some Korean, Japanese and Chinese clients -- certainly on that very day being a Saturday afternoon.
On the subject of the Russian working girls there, I found none of them attractive. Besides, as is typical with European prostitution, they look not happy (almost grouchy) to be there (can't blame them of course, but I guess that's why I enjoy Asia WG's as opposed to Euro ones: they can be so GFE despite all their misery!).
Rainman 2108
08-05-07, 01:42
I then sent an sms to her later explaining that I was real busy at work and wouldn’t be able to see her anytime soon. She then sent a couple of sms’s over the next week saying hello and which I ignored, then I’ve never heard from her again.
Nice one MS.
Met this nice lady in a party, she own a saloon and after a drink too many went back to my kost. Had a real good time and before eruption... The phone ring and the guard remind me that no guest allowed after 1am... Tried to explain that I need a few more min but he refuses.
so no choice but to order a taxi to send her back. She is mid 30 with 2 kids and divorced. We planed to meet again and after some SMS exchanges over the next couple of days. I do not feel comfortable as I find her to be very temperamental, gets upset very easily. So I avoid her.. and the SMS exchanges just get less and eventually stop.
Few months later on a Sunday afternoon. She called telling me she got a headache and want me to go over to her house to have sex. She said she just heard from the radio that sex can cure headache....... I ignore giving excuses that am busy...
Funny world isn't it here.
Cheers
Rainman 2108
08-05-07, 02:13
Excuse this first "virgin" posting from the veteran mongerers, such as the infamous John Aldrich (I bumped into your friend Sunny from Exxon, whilst transiting from Singapore to UK not so long ago!), Smoothy, Knight 1001, Rainman, 1Ball, Joel Goodson, Sapperken and last but not least, Mighty Spearsman.
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Huh, Is that the reason Knight called last night?
Welcome back then,
Cheers
Morepoonhound
08-05-07, 02:51
Morepoonhound - One thing I have to ask you - no offence - but why is your "hit rate" in BATS so low!? It's been posted in here a few times that circa 70% of the girls in there are hookers so if your hit rate is on average 1 in 30 it means if my arithmetic is correct, even when you try to score with a hooker, you fail to score 95% of the time! Surely not?!My miscommunication, Bulai69 (and anyone else who might have had the same question). Actually I don't recall EVER having been turned down, when hitting on a lady in BATS (or CJ's, or TigaPuloh, or the's Place, etc. For that matter).
What I meant in saying that "my hit-rate is 1 in 20 on a good night", is that typically only 5 percent (or less) of the women in the hooker bars are my ideal physical type. Actually I have two ideal types. Tall and slim, and athletic with a tight body and good muscle definition, especially a hot ass (the proverbial gym-bunnies). Yeah, yeah, I know. Join the queue (grin). Probably the reason I find so few is because the hard-core hunters snaffle them up either by phone-call before they ever hit the bar, or the moment they walk into the place.
I got spoiled early in life by going to university at a school with a primo ballet program. I had the good fortune to date a few ballerinas in succession. Then after getting into the working world, I hooked up with several serious female body-builders. For those of you who follow such things, think Rachel McLeish because I am more into well-sculpted beauties and not at all into muscular almost-men-type females.
Reasonable fellow that I am, I let my friend with the small brain decide on choice of date for the evening, when my big brain doesn’t spot any of my favourite types in the room. Sure I have my standards, but they can be flexible depending on how hard my dick is. On this, I am guessing that I have company (grin again).
But once I find a hard-bodied little wench, or a tall and slim sylph-type, then I make sure I get her phone number and I repeat on jumping her bones pretty much indefinitely until either she moves on (literally), or she starts getting relationship-oriented.
So this post isn’t just about me, let me introduce a nut-brown-skinned hot-body called Meela who I will guess more than one of you may have sampled from out of BATS. Meela has an ass like Jennifer Lopez (seriously) and is one of the hottest fucks that I have had in a very long while. I did Meela regularly in 2005 and 2006 (400k per pop, though she first asked 1 million), for a few months, until some other admirer sponsored her visa to Switzerland. Even after telling me she was engaged and leaving any day now, she would come rock my world when I called. But the day finally came when she simply disappeared and no longer answered her phone.
Several months later, I saw Meela in BATS again on a night when I already was on my way out the door with a new friend (a slim sylph type called Maryam who I may write about another time). We spoke long enough for Meela to tell me how cold Switzerland had been, but I didn’t think to get her new number, and I haven’t seen her in BATS again since. Of course I will love to do her again if our paths cross, but my tip for any of you is that she is every bit as hot as that wonderful ass looks. If you meet her, invite her home and treat her nicely. She is really wonderful.
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Rainman 2108
08-05-07, 02:53
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The massage ladies are not. Strictly speaking. Available for sex, but none have turned me down yet. If you want to be sure of that second shot (which you will have to tip additional for of course), maybe tell her when she walks in that you want full service, and ask to change if she isn't keen.
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The owner goes by the nick of Qibye in many other forums. U can call him to arrange transport for you if u managed to get in touch with him. If u like golf, he can arrange to play with u too, he is a 20 handicapper.
Do u know.. His freelancer, some of which are local Indo Chinese finish work at 9 pm where the SPA close. U can arrange to bring these girls out for fun, disco, pubbing or check in to your hotel... Tip them well the next morning of course.
Hope the above infor helps for those always asking where to find Chinese Indo girls.....
Cheers
Rainman 2108
08-05-07, 03:51
Seems to be "the rich executive club" in permata hijau. Just open.
Care to tell us more about this place. Is it open to the public?
My friend brought me there but I could not get hold of him recently.
Cheers
Rainman 2108
08-05-07, 04:16
Just wondering, anybody here fish in high end clubs like X2, Vertigo, Embassy etc?
My friend got lucky in Tipsy (Kemang), got a girl to go back with us whom just came in. We continue drinking back in my house and she mentioned that she is supposed to meet another friend there at tipsy and suggested that her friend also come down to my place.
Well, nobody say no to such offer right? When she arrive, I was already quite tipsy n since only some lights are on in the house, did not clearly see how she looks like. Then I fell asleep and was awaken by that lady that just came asking me to go to my room to sleep. Without hesitation, hold her hand and lead her to where my room is. Strip and had a good session and fell asleep thereafter.
Was surprised there was a girl next to me when I woke up in the morning, she was naked and so the morning erection helps. Great sex again.
Best thing were, did not know where she comes from and what's her name. So wash out and got ready to go to work. Saw my friends and that lady sleeping outside. Looks like they have great fun.
So off we goes and I alight somewhere near my office and told the driver to send them back. No money given nor discussed. Just a kiss bye.
Few days later, my friend asked that I join him at Tipsy again as the other lady is going there. Met them there again and as usual, back to my house and stay the night.
They are normal working ladies that just love to hang out in Kemang area.
Biggest problem with Kemang or these High end clubs is that people start coming only around midnight and party end around 3am.
Another time, this lady friend of my friend said she is tipsy and is with another friend and that they would like to drop by my place for more drink.
Well, this other girl she brought is a university student and just party sometimes with her. We had some wine and thereafter just lead that lady to my room. Another great night.
The former is 21 and the latter is latter is 23. Now am in contact regularly with both. The student knows about the 1st but not the other way round.
Now it seem they are looking for more then just sex but a relationship. Maybe time to go back fishing in the clubs for new stocks?
I hv seem some Bule in dragonfly before and am sure they came in alone but see them kissing, dancing and hugging girls when the party end. I am sure there are more to it.
Anybody got some similar story to share?
Cheers
Rainman 2108
08-05-07, 04:30
Singapore isn't the place I worry about though because they come back from there. It's when they go to Japan that I don't like. Many times they go there and don't ever return. There was a strong Japanese trade taking our indo girls a few years ago, but I don't think it's as rampant anymore. They would offer the girls a one year "contract", but you'd never see the girls come back. One example I knew of was where the Japanese pimps had an indo girl named Hanna working as a mama san recruiting the girls. She was actually fairly young as well. She used to go to the different bars and discos offering the girls this chance of a lifetime to make big money. I haven't seen her around for a while, but I know at least 10 different girls she recruited back then and I haven't seen a single one again since they left.
Huh. JAPAN.
Training in Furama Restaurant before flying to Japan on that 6 months contract. It's not true that they don't returned. Maybe they got married for those u know?
I used to have a girlfriend whom I met in one of the Japanese KTV in BLK M when I arrived 10 yrs back. She went with her Japanses Boyfriend to bangkok when he was posted there. Came back after they have a fight n worked part time in the KTV. We went out a few times before she left for Japan.
Then she send me mail with a pregnancy text paper showing that she is pregnant. I ignore it and she actually called me from Japan. We talk about her job but I could not be responsible since we knew each other for less then a month before she left. Well, never heard from her for a long while till one day she called saying she is back in Jakarta for a break and going to Japan again. Asked if I wanted to meet up which I reject.
There were also few others whom I know returned. One of them is in Top Gun quite often on week end. Name is Ros if I remember correctly.
Cheers
Morepoonhound
08-05-07, 19:29
No, this story is NOT about a woman who weighs over 120 kg. But since there have been several posts recently about finding freebies on AFF, I thought it useful to share this story:
Oops! The last thing I need is to get involved in a potential marriage-wrecking situation, nor do I need or want to be a surrogate father to someone else’s kid. Luckily my cell phone beeped a minute later with an sms from a friend, I read it and, pretending that it was from my office, said “sorry, I have to get back to my office right away to send a fax to the U.S. before closing time,” left money to pay for the drinks and got up and left.
I then sent an sms to her later explaining that I was real busy at work and wouldn’t be able to see her anytime soon. She then sent a couple of sms’s over the next week saying hello and which I ignored, then I’ve never heard from her again.Mighty Spearsman, great story. Thanks.
You likely have more experience with this sort of thing than I do anyway, so you probably played this (dangerous) opportunity correctly. More for other readers than for the very experienced hunters who post here, I offer some suggestions for dealing with the non-professional ladies that you may find opportunities for bonking with from time to time.
I have written a few times about the fun available through the amateur ladies of AFF, but be careful. There are more than a few women on AFF looking for serious relationships, along the lines of the story that Master Spearsman just shared. The first clue is in the "Looking for" part of their AFF profile header. There are multiple options, including looking for "1-on-1 sex", "discreet relationship" and "alternative activities", plus some others. Most women choose multiple "Looking for" objectives.
If you want to limit yourself strictly to fuck-buddy status, even if you are honest about being a married man like I am in my own profile, then make sure that women you approach have "1-to-1 sex" in their list of objectives. Best to steer completely clear of any who put only "discreet relationship", or only "alternative activities" for their objectives.
The next clue is to read their profile for phrases like looking for "a soulmate" or "someone to care for me" or "serious relationship", or (no-brainer) "a man to be my husband". No joke, there are more than a few women who openly write things like this on AFF. Avoid, or as TV-fans of my generation may understand "Danger, danger Will Robinson". You can look that up on Wikipedia if you don’t catch the reference (grin).
On the other hand, if one of those women is well-educated (BA degree or better) and is exactly my physical type (tall and slim or tall and athletic), I often still try my luck along the following lines. I wrap my approach in whatever come-on seems likely to get her attention, but my basic message is that I cannot be "the one" because I am married. Tapi barangkali I can be "the fun" while you look for your soulmate. And then I make my pitch.
Because I am polite and friendly, and ok, maybe because my profile makes clear that I love to eat pussy (grin again), some of these women write back to me, and several of these now regular fuck-buddies are totally open with me about their ongoing search for a serious relationship. These are not professional working-girls gentlemen. They may well want a sugar-daddy, but none of them have ever put the money-bite on me, because I made it clear from the beginning that I am only offering sex, while leading first with my tongue (which I make sure I deliver on).
I don’t want to make this sound too easy. Most of these women either ignore me completely or tell me they only want to be my friend on email. Your chances are much better chasing the ladies who are clear that they are looking for 1-on-1 sex. The beauty is that you don’t have to choose. Chase both/all types like I do (full smile).
But be careful. Here is the obligatory scare story – this happened to me less than 3 months ago. A married woman who could have been Miss Indonesia if she were 15 cm taller exchanged half-a-dozen increasingly wild and nakal emails with me – and we really connected via email. Only when we finally met face-to-face, it became clear she was looking for a "love story" type romance as escape from a marriage she is really unhappy in.
Not quite as bad as Mighty Spearsman’s situation, but it sounded too much like "Fatal Attraction" to me (do you know that movie – Glen Close and Michael Douglas? ). So I bailed out before the first kiss. Maybe more fair to say that she bailed on me when I wouldn't agree to be at her beck and call 24x7 when visiting Jakarta. That one was really hard (and so was I by the time she walked away from our meeting – grinning ruefully).
If I had let my dick do 100% of the thinking, I’m sure I could have banged Ms almost-Indonesia. But I would have had to lie about my intentions, and I would have had to watch my back in future, because you really don’t want to cross an Indonesian woman who has connections and who passes up her pussy in exchange for your emotional commitment. Don’t do it fellas, even if you are single, is my best advice. There is plenty of less complicated poon available all across Indonesia.
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That makes perfect sense! I thought there must be a logical explanation and I certainly agree. Although the "average" girls body in Jakarta is 100 times better than the average in UK/US where 99/100 are fat (by my criteria) there are in increasing number of over-weight girls around. Presumably this is due to the increase of junk "food" over the past few years. 15 or so years ago most girls were slimmer. Nevertheless, there are of course plenty of "perfect" bodies around; I think 1 in 20 (eg in BATS) is the right ratio for me anyway. Of course there are more emerging from Celebrity Fitness but they won't be so easy to get!
Morepoonhound
08-06-07, 01:05
That is unquestionably the funniest report I have ever read on this forum and also the most frightening.
Why is it frightening? Because until I read your post I was one sms away from hooking up with your big pal! Come on, the photos she posts don't make her look too bad, she describes herself as "tall" rather than elephantine, she is persuasive when she describes what she wants from a man, no she hasn't got around to the toys with me yet but the availability of any orifice for whatever purpose I may desire has been made explicit - several times.
I was this close to saying "Ah what the hell, I'll go for it, she might be a wee bit on the chubby side but what's the worst that could happen?".
Thank you Morepoonhound, from the botom of my heart I thank you, I will be forever in your debt.Dorman, you are most welcome but you aren’t in my debt, even for saving you from the plus-size charms of the bum-slapper. If anything, it’s the other way around. You and the many other regular posters here paid your tabs in advance already. Anything and everything we newbies can do to help you in return is "on-the-house".
Smoothy, thanks for posting "Whale Ho/Whor*" to the reports-of-distinction thread. I think what made that piece funny was more the great (! ) material I had to work with (grin).
Dorman is absolutely right about our big not-pal "not looking too bad" on her AFF profile. Worst case she is posting photo’s that are some other lady’s body, and she wouldn’t be the first woman to do that. Two pics in particular look tempting. One is a reasonably curvaceous ass with a tattoo on it and the other is a deliciously erect nipple on a pretty-normal-size looking breast.
If those snaps are her, then it was at least a 50-kg lighter version of her. By the way, she did claim a 35 kg weight gain in the past year on account of pregnancy and depression when I met her, so who knows? But my recent post pretty well describes what to expect if you are enticed to sample any of the multiple orifices that she puts on offer. Hey, with that body, maybe a 4-holer becomes possible. OK, that is probably over the line, sorry.
One related heads-up guys – for you especially, Dorman. I have a particular weakness for three-somes, so I track most of the women hunting on AFF as a 2-female couple together. Turns out our big not-pal has such a profile, under the handle 2-sexy-chicks-something-or-other. She told me about it during her ingestion of orange-juice, so be forewarned. Finally, there is another lady who has an even rounder and more jiggly shape than the bum-slapper, with "virgin" in her handle. She is only about 1. 5m tall (or shorter) so she isn’t nearly as heavy. Mostly what she reminded me of was a bowling ball. Benar-benar!
Virgin-something is a bureaucrat with one of the Jakarta city government departments (economist, I think), so she has both intelligence and plenty of time during her "so-called working day" to troll for gullible bule’s on the internet.
I bit because she checks the "average" body-type box on her AFF profile, and claimed to be an oral queen despite retention of her hymen. When you see what she looks like (ah, go ahead and meet her "in the interests of science", fella’s) you will understand why that cherry remains intact. That time I got away with 15 minutes in Starbucks, and nothing like the risks to my blood-pressure of the taxi-stand dash to the staff-entrance I described in "Whale Ho! ".
Who knows, maybe the rotund little virgin is the other member of our big not-pal’s tag-team. Now THERE’s a scary thought! If AFF imposed truth-in-advertising, a female couple like that would have a handle like "The Oblate Spheroids". Look it up, gentlemen (full smile).
... there are in increasing number of over-weight girls around. Presumably this is due to the increase of junk "food" over the past few years. 15 or so years ago most girls were slimmer.I have a personal theory about this. Many Indo women are in fact the chubby type. Over a decade ago most girls in JKT were regular xstasy or shabu users. These drugs kept them artificially slim. Recently drug-use has gone back owing to the narkoba-narkoba campaigns. The majority of girls are reverting to their inborn chubbiness. The girls themselves will say so, associating their "kurus" state with their period of drug-taking, and their "gemuk" state to a lack of "tripping".
Out of the three girls I've had a lasting relationship with in JKT, two ceased to be my type after they stopped actively taking drugs.
...... but I think this is a situation where Pak Menteng might be prepared to "help out" - getting her another "role model" would de-risk the situation for you I think.
Thanks B69. Me, a role-model. I like that!
BTW sure would love to help you out MS, but, but, but (sigh) I'm on different hunting grounds now. Medellin, Colombia, that is. It is not Jakarta, but Im doing fine. No luck yet with SPG's, but I have a couple of very promising "projects".
These great stories about the dangers of the AFF experience reminded me of a few of my own. Taking a chance on meeting an unknown girl from the web is one thing, but getting set up by a fellow monger is another. The names of the guilty shall remain hidden :D but he knows who he is.
In one case, a girl was referred to me as a virgin looking to give it up to a Bule. I agreed to meet her in the lobby of the Intercon where I was staying at the time. When I spotted her in the lobby, my spirits crashed through the floor. She appeared to have hit that wall that many asian women tend to do, whereby they stay young and attractive for a long period of time, then nature seems to take revenge by artifically aging them around 30-35 to the point where they all resemble Amelda Marcos. At least, that's my theory.
The plan was to have dinner in the main restaurant, and as we took the elevator to the right floor, all I could think of was how I was about to waste 4-500k rupes on a dinner check that was going nowhere. Luckily, someone had closed down the place for a private party, so we went sown to the sandwich bar in the shopping arcade. Although she pleasant enough, her face and body were quite unattractive. So I finished up and got out of there after only a bit of damage.
The second time, same monger set me up again. Same situation, but this time, the restaurant was open. Again, this one was nice enough, and we actually had a nice conversation over dinner, but she had a very bad case of acne (really really bad) and appeared to be around 5'10"/180 pounds. Anything over 120 or so is a huge turn off for me. I was discreetly checking my watch to see how long before Bats opens up.
For some reason we exchanged numbers, which was a big mistake. She began texting me quite often, and the more I politely declined another date, the more aggressive she became. Next came the abusive psychotic accusations and insults, to the point where she came to the lobby and started calling my room phone (that the staff gave her, not me). I was to the point of calling security. Once overseas, she started in on my yahoo chat name. I had to block that too.
So the moral of the story is don't trust anyone. :D
I can confirm that having had the pleasure to meet the 1 & in the pipeline! GOD I miss Jakarta!
KL Guy
I've even had virgins (well one anyway and another in the pipeline so to speak) from such a source as many who know me could confirm.
I'm inclined to agree with XXL's theory. Most women who are skinny in Indonesia either take a lot of recreational drugs, or just don't eat. Neither of which are very healthy. I have met very very few women in Indonesia who meet my standards of what a "nice body" should be like, and my standards are actually relatively lax: A proportionately thin waist and minimal folds around the waistline pretty much does the job for me, he he!
The few women who I found physically attractive body-wise I have either met at the gym or (very very rarely), seen walking around some of the upper-class malls in Jakarta. The ones in the mall can be a little deceptive, too, because of the amazing properties of some of these brand-name clothes.
Asian women in the US who are skinny are generally more of the "skinny-because-I-workout-regularly" type, which is more to my taste I think. Oh well, thought I'd throw in my two cents' worth on the matter.
What's with all the virgins recently? You know I never took a girl's virginity in all my life before but recently they've been coming on thick and fast. I don't know whether it was my old fashioned morality (yeah that'd be right, old fashioned moralist, that's why I hang around here) but I simply could never bring myself to deflower a girl (quaint word for a usually rather squalid and sad business). Stupid of course as someone had to have popped all the girls I was screwing and they didn't seem any the worse for it but I just never felt comfortable with something that seemed to me to be so deeply intimate.
Anyway, I have little friend, a nineteen year old university student who likes talking dirty but after a load of bravado admitted in fact she was still a virgin. She then suggested I meet up with her friend, fine I thought that's good of you, but curiously her friend was intacta too. Eh? Well here's the thing, her friend wanted to have sex, everyone else seemed to be doing it so she wanted to do so as well but she didn't want to lose her virginity in some dark alley or the back of a shed somewhere with some smelly kampung boy who would probably be as inexperienced as her and who would then be boasting about it to all his mates for months after. So instead she wanted me to do the deed on the basis that I would be more experienced, would take her easy, treat her well, rent a nice clean hotel room and then fuck off and leave her to get with her sex life as she saw fit.
Well I was absolutely gobsmacked by this proposal but agreed to meet the friend for coffee to discuss the matter. Sure enough in a very rational detached manner the friend confirmed that was precisely what she wanted, no money need change hands but if I wanted to give her some shopping money well that would be just gravy. I thought about it for a while and agreed on the basis that if she got cold feet she could back out, she looked at me oddly wondering why I was making such a big fuss about a simple job she wanted me to carry out. We went to the room, had a cuddle, took it slowly and then got on with it, she complained of a little discomfort afterwards but otherwise she seemed rather pleased with herself as if she had passed some great rite of passage, like a boy's circumcision or something, which in a way I guess it was, and off she went with a big grin leaving me in the room thoroughly non-plussed about the youth of today.
Upshot is now my original little blossom is all jealous and is demanding I meet up later to 'do her' too, amazing. This town just gets more and more bizarre!
(I'll post some more comments relating to AFF later, I'd be interested if anyone else had the -technical- problems that I had with the site)
It's a pity to break up the flow of amusing stories about AFF and other encounters, so please pardon this interruption.
But I notice that while there is a wealth of useful information about MP Bordellos in town, the posts seem to mention only those in the northern part ( Glodok, Kota, Gunung Sahari) or in the south (Mayestik, Jl Fatmawati). Does anyone know if there are any MP Bordellos in Menteng/Cikini/Tebet area that can be recommended? Also any info on Fortune Spa on Jl. Mas Mansyur next to the Standard Chartered building. Is it part of the same chain as Delta Fortuna?
Many thanks
i have sms-ed my golden bird contact and this is what he can do:
1. let him know in advance via sms your arrival date/time/flight number. please be informed that he works in shifts, and there are many golden bird counters where he can be stationed --so some advance arrangement is needed.
2. on your arrival, there are escalators/steps that you go down after disembarking from your plane. he will be waiting for you at the bottom of the steps with your name on a sheet of paper.
3. he will walk with you to the "visa on arrival", take your documents and deal directly with the immigration officer without having to queue. while this is being done, you will wait for him nearby the "visa on arrival" counter.
4. after that, he will walk with you to the immigration counter where he will "clear" you through, and you wait for him near the smoking area/toilet entrance. he will handle the immigration formalities for you.
for this, he would like to charge rp 150,000 per head (he claims that he has to give at least rp 100k to the officers at both counters). for those who are interested, you can send me a pm, and i will provide his name and mobile phone number. for god's sake, don't even for a minute think i am getting a commission out of this!!
i find that the downside of this arrangement is that sometimes there are no queues at all when you arrive, but you will still have to pay him for showing up! :(
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i'm sure that all of this information is correct and useful for some people. but it's important to realise that it's not really necessary. first-timers to jakarta should know that jakarta airport is not some nasty african shithole where you must pay corrupt officials or queue for hours in an iron shed. it may not be bangkok, but there's really no hassle at all. as panya mentioned, there are often no queues at all. the recent renovation of the immigration counters also appears to have speeded things up.
if you're really keen to get to the ladies 10 mins earlier, then by all means pay a golden bird man. but i personally don't bother. and i come in and out of the country about every month.
I've RTFF, but am looking for a good outcall massage or WG service (not Mr Don, been there done that).
Anyone got any suggestions for getting a good massage in your hotel room other than using the over-priced (and usually over-weight, over-aged women they send!).
Also looking for a good in room outcall service when the need arises there too !
Any pointers in the right direction?
Cheers,
Maaars
Traveler1234
08-07-07, 20:07
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Anyone got any suggestions for getting a good massage in your hotel room other than using the over-priced (and usually over-weight, over-aged women they send!).
Maaars
90+ minute massage for a mere 78k rupes, 021 7071 7070. Drop the 021 if dialling from a hotel landline. Give them about an hour's notice, but even in rush hour gridlock, they manage to arrive on time.
Straight massage, no happy ending but service excellent. Thanks for Brandon888 for the original post.
Trav, actually I think they require a 90 minute minimum, but if you only want an hour or so, you just pay the 78+tip. On second thought, the not-attractive woman they send may actually include a happy ending for a price. I just never asked.
Traveler1234
08-07-07, 23:21
Trav, actually I think they require a 90 minute minimum, but if you only want an hour or so, you just pay the 78+tip. On second thought, the not-attractive woman they send may actually include a happy ending for a price. I just never asked.
Re the time/price, I merely cut and pasted your original pm to me :)
I actually tried them last year after you pm the details. A fairly young and attractive woman attended to me, good massage, never strayed from her job and I had plenty of options lined up that evening so never even broached a happy ending with her.
FYI, called around 4 pm and she arrived within 30 minutes, after she was finished (can't remember whether 60 or 90 min), called a number for me to tell the boss: habis! Gave her 100 rupes and didn't ask for change......
My local office couldn't believe I got such a good deal - in room service at the Shangrila....LOL.
Morepoonhound
08-08-07, 07:39
I've RTFF, but am looking for a good outcall massage or WG service (not Mr Don, been there done that).
Also looking for a good in room outcall service when the need arises there too !
MaaarsI don't know about the straight massage, but this one is full-service sex. Better pricing (and service) then you are likely to get by calling one of the many numbers featured in the Jakarta Post classifieds.
Try one of these numbers – both for the same place. Cost is 350k rups for short-time (roughly 90 minutes), and negotiable for longer, including over night, though I never tried that.
You need to be able to speak enough Indonesian to give directions and to agree price. If they think you are a bule tourist, the price quoted will be 600k, but you can bargain down . . . in bahasa (smile).
The service guarantee below the numbers (loosely translated) states that they guarantee the service, and your money back if you are not satisfied. I don't know what would happen if you asked (smile again), but it's a nice thought.
021-68159375, 021-68159573
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90+ minute massage for a mere 78k rupes, 021 7071 7070. Drop the 021 if dialling from a hotel landline. Give them about an hour's notice, but even in rush hour gridlock, they manage to arrive on time.
Straight massage, no happy ending but service excellent. Thanks for Brandon888 for the original post.Thanks Trav (and I guess Brandon). Just tried the service. No happy ending or even a hint of any but pretty good massage I must say! Girl was about 30, bit on the chubby side, no English (other than "tip? "! ) but pleasant enough. All up, recommended; damage was 100k plus 20k tip. Seems price has gone up but still good value.
Now. Any good recommendations for my "other" needs? A good outcall service?
Cheers,
Maaars
Yeah, meanwhile, down at the Shang's spa, some rube is getting an hour at 300k!
Rainman 2108
08-08-07, 17:27
So the moral of the story is don't trust anyone.I must say so far so good.
Cheers
Wooooweeee! That was fun! Did the earth move for you too baybee?
The theory about "recreational" drug taking might have some "substance" but I'd be suprised if it accounts for most of the increase in fatties over the past 15 years. Who knows. I think it's maybe more about beefburgers. Not that a couple of cases proves anything but I know two girls who used to be occassional "e" users and have definitely stopped. They aren't any less slim than they ever where and they eat more than I do. Some will know who I'm talking about and by all means feel to contradict if I'm looking through rose coloured specs.
Spice Lover: As far as I know, Fortune in the Karet area is part of the Grand Comfort (e.g. GC Latumenten/Kartini in the Pasar Baroe area), chain. The name of the holding company is PT. COMFORT something-something, as can be seen if one runs a CC at Fortune. Some numbers to try here include 01, 08, 09, 69, 75/105, and 95. Unfortunately, FJ is not guaranteed with all the girls but will run "only" around Rp 500k if you get the right girl. Kind of depends on how the girl feels about you. The real stars here are the PR Officers up front, two in particular are quite attractive (7.5 or 8+ depending on individual taste). Unfortunately, they are not available for anything at all in house, but are definitely possible targets for outside play. If you are thinking about swinging by, drop me a PM and I'll come join! (Actually, I just want an excuse to drop in and hit on the PR Officers, he he.)
Bulai69: Yes, food in Indonesia is become more and more westernized (i.e., more simple carbs, less protein and "good" fats), and I agree with your theory that this could be part of the reason for the increase in average weight for Indonesian women. The real problem for me is most Indonesian women subscribe to the "I-can-get-thin-by-just-not-eating" rule, so when they are skinny they are skinny without any tone or shape, which kind of ruins it IMHO.
Morepoonhound
08-09-07, 05:11
I have met very very few women in Indonesia who meet my standards of what a "nice body" should be like, and my standards are actually relatively lax: A proportionately thin waist and minimal folds around the waistline pretty much does the job for me, he he!
The few women who I found physically attractive body-wise I have either met at the gym or (very very rarely), seen walking around some of the upper-class malls in Jakarta.Gentlemen, gentlemen,
High standards are a good thing to maintain, but let’s not lose perspective here. I travel extensively (mainly in Asia), and I think Indonesian women compare very favorably in general. Especially true if (like Bulai69) you are comparing the average Javanese or Sundanese or Sumatran or Sulawesi (and hey let’s not forget Indonesian-Chinese), wanita with the average American Beauty or English Rose (grin).
If you want maximum hard-bodies and minimum chubbies, head immediately for Vietnam, especially Hanoi and points north. The northeast of China (the famous dongbeiren females) is another hot-female gold-mine and the dongbei (literally "east/north" or northeast) Chinese ladies are generally several inches taller than the Vietnamese (or for that matter, Indonesian) lovelies.
But I still say we are damn lucky to be sampling the charms of the female members of the Indonesian archipelago. I like slim and fit female bodies a lot, as I have posted about several times here. And even as fussy as I am, and as focused on gym-bunny types, I am absolutely spoiled for choice. True whether I am eating in Plaza Indonesia or Senayan, hunting for paid companionship at D’s-Place (more on that in a minute), or in BATS, or sweet-talking freebies on the profile pages of Adult FriendFinder.
I respect every poster’s point-of-view, and maybe it’s simply the case that their standards are more exacting than my own. More power to them, I say. But for those of you who (like me), find yourself ngaceng (sporting a hard-on) dozens of times a day on the streets of the big-macet, here are three bits of encouragement.
I feel a bit guilty for posting repeatedly on the minority of BBW’s that I have encountered on AFF. All those stories are true, but I don’t go for the chubbies and I have (literally) a triple-digit backlog of women "hotlisted" on AFF who I still haven’t gotten around to contacting. You can sample them too, my fellow friends-of-Jackson.
One that I "have" contacted from AFF is a new friend who makes me feel young again. She is 26 and a professional cultural dancer, trained in ballet and absolutely horny. Her flexibility is something marvelous; her tight little body is still remarkable despite having given birth; and her well-trimmed bush tops a lush, wet and oh-so-sweet set of charms. Her profile comes with full-face pics and she is an 8 in my book. Look for her yourself; no more clues from me while she remains my special friend (sorry).
But two more beauties that are yours for 400k each from D’s-Place are a pair of half-sisters that I have enjoyed (separately, sadly. Always separately) more than once. The older of the two is Julie (pronounced Yoolie) and she is paid by Daryl Patton’s establishment to dance. I don't know what the's-Place pays her, but she moves her ass so well that it isn't enough, whatever her salary.
Fair enough, she has been known to be glassy-eyed at times, but she has an absolutely fantastic ass with nary an ounce of excess flesh on her. Her half-sister is Ayu (just as slim and hard-bodied), and I met Ayu on the occasion of her winning the wet dancing competition (there were no t-shirts in evidence by the end, so I can’t call it a wet-t contest).
How I came to be good friends of both half-sisters is a story for another post (or perhaps several, since it is a long story), but I will close this story by saying that sister number two going with me (instead) was her siblings’ idea. Hmmm.
For "this" post, the main point again was to remind that all of us are very fortunate to have Indonesia as our playground. But sure, please, tell all your friends that the women here are too fat and unattractive. Tell your friends to go to Thailand or Brazil or Russia instead (full smile).
Correspondent
08-09-07, 13:30
Wooooweeee! That was fun! Did the earth move for you too baybee?Can't say it was the most fun I've had this week.
Thought I was tripping at first,
Then realised that my bed had moved and the windows were trying to shake loose. Not the best feeling when you're up 20 stories and have just got home after 1 too many beers!
Tamurlane26
08-09-07, 15:48
Bulai your pictures subscribe to the theory that the more attractive - meaning the more money they can earn - the thinner they are. The less they earn the fatter they become. The rationale behind this is that if they are busy on a regular basis they have no time to sit there with the junk food and take better care of themselves.
So to the rest of you if you see a slim good looking woman - please look for the isg chop and the name B69 on there ! In order to reveal this you may have to do some major undressing work however the results will astound you !
On that happy note to all those in Jakarta have a lovely and fruitful weekend
A few weeks back, one of the (many) young gay guys hanging out at CJ's came to me and asked for my number for a female friend of his who had spotted me in the club and liked me. I went to see hisfemale friend and in the end nothing happened between her and I but the point is the gay guy kept my phone number and the interesting piece of the story starts now.
3 days ago (a few weeks later therefore) at about 10pm, I get a phone call from a girl who says she wants to meet with me ASAP. I am surprised at first, and pushed back at first not understanding where this whole thing came from since I had never met her and she was not forthcoming as to how she got my details. Anyway we ended up meeting at CJ on that night, chatting dancing and then spending a wonderful night of sex together. We did the same again last night.- wonderful night of GFE sex.
Turns out that this girl, 32 yo, very hot body, and super horny, is married to an older bule guy who works for a North American oil company in the Middle East. She lives with him obvisoulsy in a very luxurious life.- she showed me pics of their home and described to me the type of life they have-- however she is not happy in her marriage (older bule who is delighted to have a 32 yo woman whom he can "bang on demand" but he is very jealous and she is bored in the Middle East). So she comes back to JKT regularly and parties and occasionally bangs away when she meets a guy she likes. I happen to have been one (lucky) of them and spent fantastic moments with her.
Jakarta, full of surprises and amazing experiences. I guess giving out one's phone number to a gay guy may look like a bad thing to do at first glance but can reap great rewards per the above experience.
Knight 1001
08-11-07, 05:31
A few weeks back, one of the (many) young gay guys hanging out at CJ's came to me and asked for my number for a female friend of his who had spotted me in the club and liked me. ........
Jakarta, full of surprises and amazing experiences. I guess giving out one's phone number to a gay guy may look like a bad thing to do at first glance but can reap great rewards per the above experience.
Funny you should have had this experience ... there's a gay guy, and I am pretty sure it's the same one, who's been hounding me for months to present his female friend(s) to me and I kinda been avoiding him, not knowing exactly what was in it for him or what it may cost me ... looks like I was wrong and you hit the jackpot ... hehehe,
PM me and we'll exchange info on this guy.
Ciao
If one of those indonesian gay guys is sending you a girl, just be careful not to drink anything that you don't know what's in it. You wouldn't want the girl to slip you a rufie then you wake up in the morning with a sore ass and various polaroids strewn about with pictures of some gays having their way with you.
Cowboy Mike
08-11-07, 08:19
But two more beauties that are yours for 400k each from D’s-Place are a pair of half-sisters that I have enjoyed (separately, sadly. Always separately) more than once. The older of the two is Julie (pronounced Yoolie) and she is paid by Daryl Patton’s establishment to dance. I don't know what the's-Place pays her, but she moves her ass so well that it isn't enough, whatever her salary.
Fair enough, she has been known to be glassy-eyed at times, but she has an absolutely fantastic ass with nary an ounce of excess flesh on her. Her half-sister is Ayu (just as slim and hard-bodied), and I met Ayu on the occasion of her winning the wet dancing competition (there were no t-shirts in evidence by the end, so I can’t call it a wet-t contest).I met Ayu in Jakarta back in 2004 and romanced her for 7 months before my contract ended.
Went to her single room place (Sister Julie) was next door in her flat fukin her Indo boyfriend. Sure was a lot of noise.
Ayu said that Julie was a "Sexi Dancer" for D's and gets 1juta per month to shake dat ass.
And a Ass she had. I shagged her only once in 2006 on a return trip.
Anyways, here is Ayu's pic from My Bar Calander 2005.
Love that tight ass body. Dam I gotta get outta Kuala Lumpur and make another Ayam run to D's Place.
Rock On!
Fabregas70
08-11-07, 10:04
Just a few observations on the Blok M bars that are frequently mentioned here to people who haven't been to Jakarta.
D's place is the worst bar. I visited this place a couple of times and it was depressing to be honest. Very small upstairs bar and the quality of the girls/women low compared to others. Hardly anyone seem to frequent this bar which is understandle.
Onto TopGun. This is miles better than D's place. Better clientele and is the biggest bar in Blok M. Has two pool tables and two big bars. One thing against it is the atmosphere. It is quite laid-back and with the seating arrangements and the live band it is like somewhere you would take your old mom for her birthday. Very sedate really but ok if you're an old codger I suppose! Girls are ok in here.
Lastly MyBar. This IMO is the best Blok M bar. It is smaller than TopGun but can generate a much better atmosphere than TopGun. There is a dancefloor although not very big and a DJ. It's a place where you can feel that you are on vacation rather than the other bars mentioned. As it's not too big when the crowd gets in there is a real good atmosphere in there. Also the girls in MyBar are the best. Some younger ones because of the feel of the place, although girls flit from TopGun to MyBar as they are on opposite sides of the street.
IMO Indonesian girls when they are hot are far sexier than on average than any Thai or Filipino girl.
Correspondent
08-11-07, 16:19
Have read some reports lately about needing/providing directions to a couple of fave monger locations and thought I would add a little.
Echoing the guy that raves about the Busway, have to admit that its hard to beat at times.
The easiest way to find the Blok M 'expat bars' is to take the busway to the Blok M terminal, walk downstairs and take the first exit to the left.
Once on the street turn right at the corner and there you are - My Bar, Top Gun, D's Place, et al.
For Kartika/Berlian 'MPs' take the Kota Busway to Mannga Besar then, travelling towards Kota, walk along the right side of the road (facing the oncoming traffic) for about 150m and you will arrive at Bakery Suisse. The large sign above the store is hidden by the shop awning, but its one of the cleanest modern bakeries in the area. On the left of the bakery there is a lane which has a range of MPs to choose from (apart from the 2 most mentioned here on ISG). Price is around 250K (I can get it for 220 and some hard-core regulars can probably go under 200).
Once youve popped once or twice there, Today Country is a 10 minute walk or 2 minute moto-taxi.
Turn right at Jl. Mannga Besar (still walking towards the direction of Kota) and head for Lokasari Mall. If you are walking at night, I advise to take the left-side laneway that runs parallel to the main street. Feels very safe, even late at night. Any local person can tell you where the mall is anyway if you just ask "Lokasari?".
Once you are there walk straight until you arrive at Lokasari Plaza.
The ground floor sells cell phones, so you will know it's the correct place.
Take the escalator up and in front of you is a small door next to a stall (probably with a 'guard' sitting next to it).
If you are unsure then just say "Today Country?" (yeah I know, where would you be without all of my cutting edge advice!) and he will point inside and to the right. You will then walk into a carpark where the entrance of TC is located, entry is 20K (gets you a free beer or can of softdrink).
Today Country is possibly the darkest 'lit' club you will visit anywhere. The Mamasans who work there all carry mini flashlights and I usually have my phone screen turned up to maximum brightness and use that to inspect the girls that prop up next to me.
Fridays and Saturdays are naturally very busy nights, but midweek it can be very quiet early in the night and the fruit is for the picking.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I am sorry but i do not have this gay guy's details. His name goes by the pronounciation of 'danke' or something like that, but again he goes to CJ occasionally (he is not really a regular regular there) and is one gay guy there among quite a few.
Just a few observations on the Blok M bars that are frequently mentioned here to people who haven't been to Jakarta.
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Lastly MyBar. ............ It's a place where you can feel that you are on vacation rather than the other bars mentioned. ..........
Funny thing is that local expats mention Top Gun as their favourite. And I second that. Maybe we know what the risks are when visiting My Bar. And I don´t mean the risk to bump into a sweet thing.
My Bar is the place with the most frequent violent outbursts and the loudest music. Enough people though, looking for a place like that.
Like you mentioned, the girls from Top Gun and My Bar rotate from one bar to another. So why not pick them up in Top Gun?
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Fridays and Saturdays are naturally very busy nights, but midweek it can be very quiet early in the night and the fruit is for the picking.
Very good description. In addition I would mention that on sunday afternoon you´ll find the amateur girls sitting and standing near the outside stairs, waiting for an invitation.
If you are walking at night, I advise to take the left-side laneway that runs parallel to the main street.
No need to walk at any time, hop on an ojek motorcycle taxi located at the busway stop, you'll be there in three minutes, 5000 rp tops.
Correspondent
08-12-07, 05:55
No need to walk at any time, hop on an ojek motorcycle taxi located at the busway stop, you'll be there in three minutes, 5000 rp tops.
Haha, yeah but some people actually like walking - it helps promote a concept known as fitness!
Also, for someone to choose the Busway for 3500Rp (over a taxi) to then pay 5000Rp to save a short walk negates the savings.
Believe it or not, there are budget conscious travellers out there.
(And if you read my post again, you will see I already mentioned the moto-taxi.)
Very good description. In addition I would mention that on sunday afternoon you´ll find the amateur girls sitting and standing near the outside stairs, waiting for an invitation.I also noticed there were some girls hanging outside the front of Lokasari Plaza on the right of the entrance steps on Friday at 7pm and seemed to be under direction of an older looking Mamasan. It could have been a mother and 4 daughters but the expressions on their faces said otherwise. Around 2 hours later they were gone.
I met Ayu in Jakarta back in 2004 and romanced her for 7 months before my contract ended.
Went to her single room place (Sister Julie) was next door in her flat fukin her Indo boyfriend. Sure was a lot of noise.
Ayu said that Julie was a "Sexi Dancer" for D's and gets 1juta per month to shake dat ass.
And a Ass she had. I shagged her only once in 2006 on a return trip.
Anyways, here is Ayu's pic from My Bar Calander 2005.
Love that tight ass body. Dam I gotta get outta Kuala Lumpur and make another Ayam run to D's Place.
Rock On!
I first met Ayu back in 2001 or 2002 when she first hit D's with her sister. Supposedly it was her first week on the blok, but you never know. Her sister Yuli had worked at Hotel Melawai Maribaya massage 6th floor day shift for a while so I knew her already. Her ass was always an eye catcher there. Ayu is the younger sister (who I never saw working the 6th floor), and Yuli had just quit the 6th and was beginning to ply her trade at D's place. One night at D's, a buddy and I took Yuli and Ayu back to his place where I took Ayu and he took Yuli. Ayu was fairly shy back then and Yuli did all of her talking. (Yuli was half naked back then with her ass hanging out of a sarong, but Ayu was one of those girls who wore a white sweater and jeans and sat in the corner. You can always pick out the new ones when they are wearing those goofy sweaters.) I was a little hesitant at first, but Yuli was a good saleswoman so I went for it. When we got down to it, Ayu was good in bed. I've always thought those girls were a good time, but I haven't been with either of them in years. When I see them now, Yuli always tries to get me to take Ayu home (knowing I wont take Yuli, but might consider Ayu) - reminding me of the old days, but for some reason I always take a pass these days.
I'm guessing the owner of D's must have offered Yuli that million a month after he had a round with her at the 6th floor. Then she dragged her little sister along for the ride. It took Ayu quite a while to start doing the sexy dancing like Yuli. But now she's a star. That inhibition is long gone. :)
I was in D's a couple of months ago and this girl with a great ass was getting all the attention from the crowd during the wet t-shirt contest. I didn't recognize her, but the guys were going nuts over her. All the water from the squirt guns was being shot on her ass. I was thinking I'd like to have a go with that girl, but she'd be too popular that night. Then right after the show, she walks past all the guys who are hounding her and walks over to me and says hello. I couldn't remember who she was, but then realized it was Ayu when Yuli came around the corner and said hello as well and asked if I was going to take her sister home that night. LOL! Ayu is the sexy dancer now it seems. And a good one at that.
I've never done a threesome with them. But I would think that would be nice. They are both sexy girls.
Morepoonhound
08-12-07, 06:41
I met Ayu in Jakarta back in 2004 and romanced her for 7 months before my contract ended. Went to her single room place (Sister Julie) was next door in her flat fukin her Indo boyfriend. Sure was a lot of noise.
Ayu said that Julie was a "Sexi Dancer" for D's and gets 1juta per month to shake dat ass. And a Ass she had. I shagged her only once in 2006 on a return trip.
Anyways, here is Ayu's pic from My Bar Calander 2005. Love that tight ass body. Dam I gotta get outta Kuala Lumpur and make another Ayam run to D's Place.
Rock On!Thanks Cowboy Mike.
Maybe I'm confusing all that luscious tail, but the pic you posted looks more like sister Julie than Ayu. Doesn't really matter: both have smokin' hot bodies, albeit better nipples than breasts (grin), and there is some family resemblance either way. One thing though is that Julie always used to wear a stunning slim body-chain low on her hips. Never saw her without it in all the times I did her, and it isn't showing in this photo. You may be right.
For anyone who wants to see more, here is the link to the entire MyBar calendar for 2005 (60 pics altogether).
http: //jakartablokm.com/gallery/album-mybar-calendar/index.html
Just to add to the story of this hot-bodied working girls, Julie (born in Sumatra) once showed me a picture of herself together with her identical twin sister (at that time still in Sumatra and evidently not on the game). Only later did I meet half-sister Ayu. If anyone ever did all three sisters, I want to hear the story (full smile).
Naive me, though. I had no idea these girls history with BlokM went back to 2004 until reading Cowboy Mike's posting. When Julie set me up with Ayu (some time in 2006), I had the impression she was doing a favor for her "new to the Blok" kid sister. I shouldn't be surprised, and it really doesn't matter. Both were excellent hotel guests, and both always stayed the nite with a repeat performance the next morning. For 400k, I always felt fantastically lucky to have shagged them all night.
Naive me, though. I had no idea these girls history with BlokM went back to 2004 until reading Cowboy Mike's posting.
You must not have read my post. They go back to 2002. Julie (Yuli) used to work the 6th floor massage at Hotel Melawai back then.
I was thinking the ever famous Putri who now hangs out mostly at Top Gun and My Bar was the girl who has been on the blok the longest as far as the attractive ones go. When Putri was new on the Blok, she used to mainly hang out in D's and Lintas Melawai before My Bar got popular. However, Yuli and Ayu were on the Blok before her. So I guess they get the honor of being the longest standing cute girls on the Blok at the moment.
Normally it seems that the really cute girls disappear after a bit. But Putri, Yuli and Ayu have been around for 5 or 6 years now. There are others who have been regulars on the Blok for longer, but I am not attracted to any of them.
Morepoonhound
08-13-07, 04:59
You must not have read my post. They go back to 2002. Julie (Yuli) used to work the 6th floor massage at Hotel Melawai back then.
Normally it seems that the really cute girls disappear after a bit. But Putri, Yuli and Ayu have been around for 5 or 6 years now. There are others who have been regulars on the Blok for longer, but I am not attracted to any of them.Right, Smoothy. You posted about 10 minutes before I did, and the minute I hit the send button saying "no idea these girls history dates back to 2004", I saw your post, and realized that I really did have no clue about their vintage (grin).
But I sure do recognize a first-class pantat, and both these half-sisters have one. The funny thing about them though is that they don't like to meet outside the Blok. At least I could never persuade them. With most working girls, once we have taken each other for a satisfactory test-drive, I exchange phone numbers, and then prefer to have them come straight to my hotel.
Several times though, I called Julie and although she was friendly and nice on the phone, her reply to my suggestion that she come to my hotel was "Look for me at the Blok". Maybe something to do with her dancing gig, or maybe she just isn't that interested in afternoon delight (smile). It seems more like a life-style thing with her. All her friends are at the's Place or nearby, and she would rather drink and party there during opening-hours. So unlike many ladies who go to a club with the intention of finding a man to take them away, Julie and Ayu seem like they go to the club for the evening and want to stay until late. Maybe because they are both confident they will still have punters chasing their tails no matter what time they call it a day.
Smiling again, here I was thinking that I had found a special deal with these two, only to find out that their pussies are more like Changi Airport: everyone has been through it. Pushing that analogy further, it has been a first-class experience every time I've had one of them gripped by the hips while I stroked in from behind. Wonderful!
I've never tried having them visit me off the blok. I don't think I've ever even had either of their phone numbers. That would be one explanation of why they are still there though. My guess is they both have lazy indo boyfriends they are supporting so they have to keep hitting the blok nightly. The girls who disappear from the blok many times hitch up with a bule and are taken off the market. The ones with leeching indo boyfriends need to keep working to support their guy.
Back when Julie (yuli) used to work the 6th floor, I used to have one of her co-workers from the 6th visit me at my place some evenings. Her indo boyfriend would drive her over on a motorcyle. He'd wait outside until we were done then drive her home. LOL!
haha, yeah but some people actually like walking - it helps promote a concept known as fitness!
also, for someone to choose the busway for 3500rp (over a taxi) to then pay 5000rp to save a short walk negates the savings.
fitness? i weave through the traffic of jakarta inhaling nauseous fumes and scraping against suicidal metro-minis in order to drink gallons of fomaldahyde laced beer in darkened smoke filled caverns and shag seriously dodgy oul' slappers in dingy back rooms with christ knows what sort of infectious traces on the beds, floors and in the showers, so to be honest my good health really isn't that much of a priority.
i never take the busway to save money (a taxi fare costs less than the price of a pint of ale back home) but to get about quicker. same with ojeks, i might look like a bule miskin but in fact i'm a man who promised his better half he was only going into the office for an hour or two and now needs to get back from kota or blok m in under fifteen minutes or face the wrath of khan.
Correspondent
08-13-07, 12:35
fitness? i weave through the traffic of jakarta inhaling nauseous fumes and scraping against suicidal metro-minis in order to drink gallons of fomaldahyde laced beer in darkened smoke filled caverns and shag seriously dodgy oul' slappers in dingy back rooms with christ knows what sort of infectious traces on the beds, floors and in the showers, so to be honest my good health really isn't that much of a priority.
i never take the busway to save money (a taxi fare costs less than the price of a pint of ale back home) but to get about quicker. same with ojeks, i might look like a bule miskin but in fact i'm a man who promised his better half he was only going into the office for an hour or two and now needs to get back from kota or blok m in under fifteen minutes or face the wrath of khan.ok well it seems you and i are different in some respects.
i have avoided the constraints of a 'better half' for a while now as it impedes the duration and frequency of my mongering needs.
(of course i still have 'girlfriends' in every asian port of call, but after 2-3 days with one of them i feel weighed down with their emotional/financial attachment).
i am well aware of the traffic fumes, chemically infused beer, smoke choked bars and dirty back street brothels that i am exposed to daily, so like a few of my friends, i try to keep myself in shape to counter the side-effects of my nocturnal activities.
Cowboy Mike
08-13-07, 13:17
Maybe I'm confusing all that luscious tail, but the pic you posted looks more like sister Julie than Ayu.
Naive me, though. I had no idea these girls history with BlokM went back to 2004 until reading Cowboy Mike's posting. When Julie set me up with Ayu (some time in 2006), I had the impression she was doing a favor for her "new to the Blok" kid sister.The pic is Julie. My mistake.
I was cruising through Malawai Mall (if you can call it that) and noticed Yulie and a older girl (30's and a factory worker) looking through the cheap bras and panties. Eye contact and they followed. Said Hello and went to Mc D's. Happy Meals for everyone.
The factory worker suggested we go back to Yulie's place and she get some clothes and she follow me to Park Lane.
Fuk Yeah!
Must have been a 45 minute ride and was dropped off at the end of a white brick wall. Walked a dirt trail between the white fence and a wooden fence for 100 yards. Walked into an open compound with children playing.
It was Shock and Aw when I made the corner. They stopped playing and just stood there and looked.
We went up stairs to Yulie's flat. it was 5' x 5' with a dresser and TV on top. Had a throw down mattress. No inside plumbing. I had to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). Was directed down stairs to a common sink hole.
All this time I could hear Julie's sister Ayu fukin d local boy. Maybe he was poking her booty cause she was very loud.
Julie grabbed some clothes and stuffed into a paper shopping bag and off we went to Park Lane.
Stayed there for a full week until she went home.
Julie mentioned Ayu had a boyfriend staying in Park Lane. American working at Immigration (Dream Job) and was fukin Ayu regular and he was "giving" her $100 USD per month to keep her from fukin others. Ha! Dont eat dat pussi!!!
Yulie showed me a pic and I immediately recognized the dude begin in Styx. Not sure who was playing who in the relation. He gots chicks and Ayu got other Dicks. :-X
I'm moving to Malaysia in 2005 and have not see Ayu or Julie since. I shall return this August to see D's place and also the other bars.
Hey, If you bored, check out a video I made of a BBBJ bar in Philippies.
http://www.freddyhotdog.com/vids/cowboymike/Philippines/See_How_You_Are.wmv
Jkt After Dark 2
08-13-07, 13:22
Lokasari enthusiasts,
Lokasari is under surveillance (Today Country (TC), H. Prinsen Park, and H. Olympic).
I was there last Sunday afternoon when the California Fried Chicken (CFC) group (mainly Chinese gentlemen) excaped the LE raid at H. Prinsen Park based on tip off.
Just be carefull! Your wellbeing is my concern.
JAKARTA AFTER DARK
Ilikestellaartoi
08-13-07, 13:31
I'm visiting Jakarta for the first time at the moment and fortunately I am with a friend who knows the city well. Paid a visit to the girls at Marubaya at the 6th floor, Melawai hotel 2 nights ago and selected 2 girls for my pleasure, the following night was pure decadance. I selected 4 girls and my buddy took 6 away with him. Then plan was for 2 hours by I was full of dust after the 1st hour, my buddy managed to last 1h45m. Then went down town for more beer. What a brilliant night. Very impressed with the standard of girls here and the price is very agreeable.
Tamurlane26
08-13-07, 16:28
Smoothy
Out of curiosity as last time I was in Blok M I received threatening phone calls - must have been because my gay friend gave me the number of a lady whose "boyfriend" did not take kindly to her calling me - a long story many moons ago !!
Are all those girls actually patrons of my bar ! Am astounded and shall have to move from my usual rock and crawl up the busway !
A bientot
I never did contact that gay guy so I'm not sure who he has as contacts. I'm betting they are not all blok m girls though. Providing contacts must be somewhat lucrative - they must charge some kind of fee. Even the taxi drivers there on the blok have contacts and have tried to hook me up with various girls on occassion. They get girls numbers all the time and try to pimp them out.
I also noticed there were some girls hanging outside the front of Lokasari Plaza on the right of the entrance steps on Friday at 7pm and seemed to be under direction of an older looking Mamasan. It could have been a mother and 4 daughters but the expressions on their faces said otherwise. Around 2 hours later they were gone.
They are there every day, but I meant the "real amateurs". Girls looking for additional pocketmoney to buy the latest MP3-player or cellphone.
Thanks Cowboy Mike.
Maybe I'm confusing all that luscious tail, but the pic you posted looks more like sister Julie than Ayu. Doesn't really matter: both have smokin' hot bodies, albeit better nipples than breasts (grin), and there is some family resemblance either way. One thing though is that Julie always used to wear a stunning slim body-chain low on her hips. Never saw her without it in all the times I did her, and it isn't showing in this photo. You may be right.
For anyone who wants to see more, here is the link to the entire MyBar calendar for 2005 (60 pics altogether).
http: //jakartablokm.com/gallery/album-mybar-calendar/index.html
Just to add to the story of this hot-bodied working girls, Julie (born in Sumatra) once showed me a picture of herself together with her identical twin sister (at that time still in Sumatra and evidently not on the game). Only later did I meet half-sister Ayu. If anyone ever did all three sisters, I want to hear the story (full smile).
Naive me, though. I had no idea these girls history with BlokM went back to 2004 until reading Cowboy Mike's posting. When Julie set me up with Ayu (some time in 2006), I had the impression she was doing a favor for her "new to the Blok" kid sister. I shouldn't be surprised, and it really doesn't matter. Both were excellent hotel guests, and both always stayed the nite with a repeat performance the next morning. For 400k, I always felt fantastically lucky to have shagged them all night.
Is this link working? I can't access it.
By the way, last time I went to MyBar, the dancers looked like that Ayu girl. I tried to pick one up, but another girl in our group said they were mostly ladyboys. Could that be true?
Also, has anyone been to the upstairs area of MyBar? What goes on there?
Morepoonhound
08-14-07, 01:48
Is this link working? I can't access it.
By the way, last time I went to MyBar, the dancers looked like that Ayu girl. I tried to pick one up, but another girl in our group said they were mostly ladyboys. Could that be true?
Also, has anyone been to the upstairs area of MyBar? What goes on there?
Brandon and others who may have tried to click through: for some reason the auto-editing that Jackslon's software does adds a "//http:%20" to the front of the actual link, when you click it. In the address bar, delete that extra addition, and then the full remaining link works fine.
Or maybe easier to just go out to google and search on the three words: mybar calendar jakarta. Anyway, the Mybar calendar is definitely still online, with 5 snaps for each of 12 ladies.
Don't know about how many of the dancers are he/she's but for sure there are some transsexuals (dicks removed and man-made "pussy" installed) in Mybar. I picked one up once in MyBar, thinking that I had found a real female. I did take him (her?) back to my hotel, but when he stripped off the dress to shower, there were enough clues to set my ladyboy alarm bells ringing.
So before either my tongue or my dick got anywhere near that male body (shudder), I asked straight out "Have you had a sex change operation". He replied "Of course, and that he thought I knew because he was tall, etc."
I gave him taxi-money back to the Blok and 100k for his trouble (it was still early, so there was no drama about lost business). He tried to persuade me to try his "pussy" (what do you call the man-made version?) or at least to let him give a blowjob, but no thanks. I just don't swing that way. Give me the real thing always and only; never a man-made copy.
So I can confirm that there is "some" lady-boy risk in MyBar, but I think they will tell you straight if you ask. Plenty of genuine female tail in there on any night I have ever visited, so still worth going.
By the way, last time I went to MyBar, the dancers looked like that Ayu girl. I tried to pick one up, but another girl in our group said they were mostly ladyboys. Could that be true?
I've never seen a lady boy as a hired dancer in My Bar. Although I've definitely seen lady boys in My Bar. They always seem to hook up with the best looking young guys in the bar so I don't mind them being there. Those guys usually have them up against the bar cuddling, buying them drinks and smootching the night away. I'm not sure what happens when they find out those are lady boys. Regardless, the fact that those guys are taken off the market by the lady boys leaves more girls for me to choose from.
Also, has anyone been to the upstairs area of MyBar? What goes on there?
Used to have a live band on the 2nd floor and billiards on the 3rd floor, but they closed those floors down since they weren't getting many customers up there.
Lokasari enthusiasts,
Lokasari is under surveillance (Today Country (TC), H. Prinsen Park, and H. Olympic).
I was there last Sunday afternoon when the California Fried Chicken (CFC) group (mainly Chinese gentlemen) excaped the LE raid at H. Prinsen Park based on tip off.
Just be carefull! Your wellbeing is my concern.
JAKARTA AFTER DARK
I had a room in the PP last Sunday, I find it very convenient for a few of my contacts up in that neck of the woods, and afterwards went across to TC for a few beers, just beer on this occasion, but saw nothing untoward in fact if anything it seemed busier than normal. Can you give us any details of the raid? Are the cops targetting the girly end of things or the narkoba? If it's the former then I'm staying well clear but if it's the latter then it's not a problem for me.
I hadn't realised that the CFC guys actually constituted an organised group I just thought they were a bunch of good ol' boys out for a bit of afternoon fun.
Baitedbreath
08-14-07, 04:20
I thought in raids like this the police always just targeted the ladies and the owners and the punters were relatively safe. Are punters being targeted as well?
Lokasari enthusiasts,
Lokasari is under surveillance (Today Country (TC), H. Prinsen Park, and H. Olympic).
I was there last Sunday afternoon when the California Fried Chicken (CFC) group (mainly Chinese gentlemen) excaped the LE raid at H. Prinsen Park based on tip off.
Just be carefull! Your wellbeing is my concern.
JAKARTA AFTER DARK
I hadn't realised that the CFC guys actually constituted an organised group I just thought they were a bunch of good ol' boys out for a bit of afternoon fun.
Indeed they are there for some fun ;). Actually they can provide very, very accomodating information about the girls in and around TC.
Mighty Spearsman
08-16-07, 03:04
In late June, I posted about a new girl working the day shift at Maribaya Spa (6th floor of Hotel Melawai in Blok M) named Ayu, 21 years old. Like many Javanese girls, she is very petite at barely 1.5 meters tall, 42 kgs., very small breasted (she already has one child), and a fresh, eager and enthusiastic performer – a real “spinner” or “fucklet” to use some common slang. Exactly the body type that ISG members Bulai69 and Prof. Designer would like. Only downside was her face – sorry to say it, but while she has a nice smile, Ayu simply is not that pretty. However, I enjoyed my first session with her very much, and had two more sessions with her in July.
Stopped by Maribaya Spa last week only to find that Ayu was off that day. So I ended up picking a somewhat shy new girl named Etty, who had only been working there for a couple of weeks, and I was glad that I did.
Etty is the same age as Ayu, 21, but everything else is different. Etty is from Sumatra and is 1.68 meters tall, 55 kgs., fairly large and very firm breasts (36C bra, has clearly not had any children yet), great legs with no stretch marks, a tremendous body and figure. She’s probably too big for Bulai69’s taste, but I’m sure that he’d admire her anyway.
And the best part is that she has a beautiful face (at least by MP/Spa standards), with gorgeous eyes, certainly the prettiest girl I’ve ever found in my 3 years of visiting the MPs in Indonesia. Etty also speaks decent English and appears very intelligent – in fact, it’s hard to believe that one could find such a girl at a place like Maribaya.
Had a great session with her last week, a real GFE, and have already been back again for a second session this week. She only works the day shift at Maribaya and claims to be bored and do nothing in the evenings, so guys, here’s your chance to spend some time with one of the few real gems in Jakarta MPs! Highly recommended.
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