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Master Diver II
06-30-15, 06:14
He wasn't commenting on only one Western guy. He was suggesting in that post those of us who posted negative information about the service at Classic likely got bad service because we did not know how to present ourselves to the girls, whereas he did. I found that offensive, particularly coming from someone who apparently has such limited experience in Jakarta; apparently you don't.
And to the guy who suggested I was a "hater" for holding this view, have you looked at your own history of posts here, insulting other people? Classic pot calling the kettle black.Please note the contrast in the way Smoothy replied (he has commented on Classic many times and is a bule) and the way you handled it. Chalk and cheese.
MD II.
Please note the contrast in the way Smoothy replied (he has commented on Classic many times and is a bule) and the way you handled it. Chalk and cheese.
MD II.Yes, Smoothy and I are different people and responded differently. That, however, doesn't bear on the offensiveness of UndercoverH's post.
I would definitely have jumped that 25 yo part Arab girlI wish I would have been with her more than once. She wasn't on the scene long. I haven't met you yet, but if you are anything like Menteng, I think you fall in a different category than the normal Asians who frequent those places. Menteng is at least half bule. haha. And a damn good pool player.
The issue is my window falls squarely in the last week of 2015 Ramadan (Sunday to Tuesday). The question is should I bother or wait for another opportunity later in the year?Don't waste your time. The very end of Ramadan is a horrible horrible time to visit. There are much better choices than Indonesia during that period. Wait for at least 2 weeks after the end of Ramadan.
LifeIsABeach
06-30-15, 06:42
He was suggesting in that post those of us who posted negative information about the service at Classic likely got bad service because we did not know how to present ourselves to the girls, whereas he did. I found that offensive, particularly coming from someone who apparently has such limited experience in Jakarta; apparently you don't. Let's cool off. Everyone has a right to their opinions and I am glad that person posted his. One can agree with it or move on. It's ok to disagree too. When I read his comments, it reminded of many over weight, smelly, badly dressed men I have seen in AC that I always wonder what kind of service would the WG would give to them. Others have also commented on that too. How one presents oneself is not limited to Indonesia but every where in the world. You do not have to wear expensive clothes but if you are respectful and clean, your chances are better. So, his experience being in Jakarta for only a short time is a moot point. Without dissent, we would not learn from each other. All comments are welcome. Live and let live. Happy mongering.
Master Diver II
06-30-15, 06:46
I wish I would have been with her more than once. She wasn't on the scene long. I haven't met you yet, but if you are anything like Menteng, I think you fall in a different category than the normal Asians who frequent those places. Menteng is at least half bule. haha. And a damn good pool player.Yes, I have played pool with Menteng: I recall how he was trying to take a photo down my my girl's blouse at the time, so perhaps he was distracted. I guess I'm neither Asian nor bule then?
MD II.
Yes, I have played pool with Menteng: I recall how he was trying to take a photo down my my girl's blouse at the time, so perhaps he was distracted. I guess I'm neither Asian nor bule then?
MD II.Bro, you're beyond any league. And Smoothy is a very nice guy. I think he was the one who was distracted when we played pool, that's why he thinks I'm a good player.
Smoothy, you should meet MD, you'll see that he has a way to score with his sticks (pun intended).
Now that it's been years ago, I can confess that I succeeded in taking that photo. I'm sorry bro, it must have been under the influence of Jack or Johnnie.
I'll pass on the Classic debate, I find it's a good way to round off a long day picking up freelancers around the Pasar Baru / Lokasari area and if you just want a cold beer, watch some titty dancers and end with an uncomplicated bit of houghmagandie, it will fit the bill. It's basically a big North Jakarta knocking shop and it does what its says on the tin, nothing more nothing less.
As regards Blok M I have been going there since 2003, around the time My Bar opened and used to think it was paradise on earth, literally hordes of young totty jamming Dee's and later My Bar from 9 pm onwards, I really couldn't get enough. The odd thing was even then (as Smoothy pointed out, and as he has been saying so since then) the regulars all said it wasn't as good as it was back in the day and that it had lately gone to pot, I used to just mutter under my breath about played out old has beens who wouldn't know a good thing if they saw it.
Well, now I am a jaded old trooper (unlike Menteng, who though older than me never seems to get jaded), I prop up the bar counter and bemoan the passing of the "real" Blok but oddly enough I can still get tempted into the VIP room by the latest new dancer, or still spend the evening getting the phone numbers of bar staff who, perish the thought!, aren't chicken but who still seem oddly willing to hook up with a bloke they hardly know for an afternoon of sex if there's a bit of monetary consideration on the side.
So like everything it's horses for courses, the Blok has moved on, if you're a younger guy there's a lot better places to check out, but then we didn't have Tinder, Skoot, Facebook and Whatsapp back in 2003.
Although one thing has certainly improved about the Blok, the quality of girls standing on the street corners, not my usual preferred means of getting acquainted with young woman but while passing through it seems to me there are a couple of hotties there.
SteelBaton
06-30-15, 11:50
Thanks mates for the comments. The nays have it. Unless anyone has a favorite less-traveled Asian paradise I should consider, I'm Burma bound.
(I think I good there in my usual beer-stained singlet, tight ripped sweaty gym shorts and Birkenstocks, but I always pack some cheap Brut aftershave.).
LA guy, you are right. My recommendation is not comparative as I have stayed only at the kota property. When I was booking I got a better rate then Harmoni and this hotel was a decent green property which I found so during my 5 days. I did not speak about the room as I had booked the executive room, need little more space then the usual cramped room. All said the staff at the hotel is extremely courteous. Get blue bird taxi from the hotel, the night staff know all the usual entertainment joints hence no hassle of figuring it out especially for a newbie like me. Women to room is no problem.
Forex across the road. All America fast food joints within walking distance. These are few of the reasons I suggested this hotel. It is not that Harmoni or any other hotel is not good.Well, I've been in Mercure Kota twice.
First time 12/2014 was excellent and second time 01/2015 was far from the first experience so I wrote a letter to the manager.
My favourite food place was the Chinese restaurant just some steps north and I avoided the American food joints.
The massage girls give a really good massage and are up for HJ to FS, depending on the girl. But always expensive, HJ starting at 700 k.
Dee
So like everything it's horses for courses, the Blok has moved on, if you're a younger guy there's a lot better places to check out, but then we didn't have Tinder, Skoot, Facebook and Whatsapp back in 2003.
.I've got to sympathise with one of the previous posters as first time impressions of Blok M are often disappointing. My first trip to Blok M certainly wasn't much fun.
A Frieslander uncle staying with our family offered to treat me to some English language books. This would involve a day out in his Opelette and a long journey down south from leafy Cikini to the Kavelings of Kebayoran. After a quick visit to the book shop and a purchase of Treasure Island my Om Van Loon proclaimed it was time for a beer and pahit. He said I was too young for the bar despite my protestations and abandoned me, locked up in his hot dirty Opel. About 3 hours of waiting and waiting in Faletehan (and half way through Treasure Island) my Uncle appeared with a sweat and smile on his face. I refused to visit Blok M with him ever again on his weekly sojourns.
But somehow about two years later I ended up there again. I met a blok M regular. A part german lady called Ulla who lived in the new Ragunan Zoo and had brought along a baby monkey in a nappy for a drink, I discovered Blok M could be fun. In those days the most famous character in Blok M was called Clemens. He was a very good natured Hornbill bird that wandered from shop to bar to shop. He scared the shit our of any newcomers especially the hardy oilmen.
Although only chest height to the pool tables, it became my new hobby. A wasted youth. The Brits did explain they wanted to teach me how to play pool "properly" after each foul by shouting and pointing rudely to play the bloody ball behind the line of the Dee.
My Blok M highlight was the memorable day I reached a certain age and my balls litterly dropped. At the back of the Snooker hall two young girls gave me what the colonials called an elephant bath followed by a rub down.
When Clemens passed away there was talk of fundraising for a statue. Does anyone know what happened to Clemens statue?
I've been visiting that Street of broken dreams for nigh on 35 years. On my last visit two months ago I was pleased to see that the. Sportsman's was being converted back into a Coffee shop, it also seemed as if the cartel operation of child beggars and musicians has finally been expelled. Oh and a young fresh British Graduate all gadgeted up with his google knowledge of Jakarta also tried to teach me with great animation how to play pool "properly" and demanding I place the ball behind the line of the Dee.
Tambora DJ.
I'm seeking confirmation from some bros who have local experience about the situation during Ramadan. Having RTFF and done a few other searches my conclusions are the following:
- mongering is possible, but have reduced expectations.
- youngest girls will be home with their families, so expect 25-30 yrs, with a good amount of MILFs.
- some venues like BATS will still have good offerings, but again olde, more independent ladies.
- places like (the much discussed) Classic which seems to have more of the young (if starfish) hotties will have very few options compared to their normal menu.1. Mongering is still active, but probably operating at 20% less capacity. Music starts later at venues (9 pm) and close earlier (sometimes midnight, no later than 2 am). The first and last 2 days of ramadan ALL places are CLOSED since it's the holiest days (I. E. No fucking!
2. Places like Hotel Travel and Classic, which have young fresh gals, mechanical service, and cheap 3 somes are still active, and will have a decent selection, subject to above caveat. I read a recent report that at 6 pm had over 40 gals, possibly more at 8 pm peak time.
3. Hotel Bars like BATs and CJs will still be open, and are good options during Ramadan, although they have more MILFs than young fresh gals.
Bottom Line, you should go, unless your 3 days land SQUARELY on the last 2 days of ramadan, in which case all entertainment is closed and you should avoid.
Even living in Jakarta, I like to get out of town during Ramadan.
Member #4410
06-30-15, 20:54
She's the one with the really hot body, and most popular in the back VIP room. She has an indo boyfriend, so I don't think she ever does take out. As hot as she is, I don't like her personality. It's similar to the girls at Hotel Travel's personalities. No charm. You are better off sticking with the girls with the better personalities.
This is the picture of her from the My Bar Calendar. Unfortunately, it doesn't show her best assets - her ass, pussy and legs.Doesn't look familiar to me. Maybe next time.
Member #4410
06-30-15, 20:57
Maybe two years ago or more, they were closed for a period for what were referred to as renovations. This was based on what I read either on this site or elsewhere and because it was not at that time on my "circuit" I didn't know about the closure from direct experience. But I'm quite confident this did happen. I'm not sure the extent of the renovations, but the layout of the bar, etc. did seem a bit different when I went there recently compared to my (rather weak) memory of the layout a few years ago.
Edit: I now see it was four years ago, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1159787&highlight=Maribaya+renovations#post1159787. But I suppose it is possible the scheduled renovations never happened.The place looks unchanged to me. If they did anything maybe they did it discreetly.
Hello everyone,
I have been reading the forum at least the last 27 pages but couldn't find any information about any Russians or Moroccans ladies out there. Is there any in Jakarta or am better off sticking with the local goods? Is there.
Any premium pussy that I can get a hold off instead of going to BATS and CJ's like high class escort agency or something? My budget is not a problem given that she is a stunner.
You will not find any Moroccans, but you can find Russians at pretty much every high end brothel in town. Try Alexis and Malioboro, but honestly they are all over town in many different places.
In this world, I don't think there are any more beautiful girls than Russian. However, I'll let you in on a little secret. The local Indonesian girls are better in bed. For the money you spend on a robotic Russian girl, you can get a fantastic local LBFM.
Member #4537
07-01-15, 05:46
Hello everyone,
I have been reading the forum at least the last 27 pages but couldn't find any information about any Russians or Moroccans ladies out there. Is there any in Jakarta or am better off sticking with the local goods? Is there.
Any premium pussy that I can get a hold off instead of going to BATS and CJ's like high class escort agency or something? My budget is not a problem given that she is a stunner.I'd agree with Smoothy when he says the Russians are robots and have possibly the most stuck-up and arrogant attitude of the female species in earth, but you'll find them in Malioboro, Alexis, Classic Bunker and Sumo Spa. At Sumo in Kelapa Gading they go for 1. 3 juta last time I went, which is the best deal in town.
As for Moroccans, Go to De Leila or Three Horse. Prices range from 3 juta upwards (the prettiest ones won't settle for less than 5 juta).
Joel Goodsen
07-02-15, 04:14
I've got to sympathise with one of the previous posters as first time impressions of Blok M are often disappointing. My first trip to Blok M certainly wasn't much fun.
A Frieslander uncle staying with our family offered to treat me to some English language books. This would involve a day out in his Opelette and a long journey down south from leafy Cikini to the Kavelings of Kebayoran. After a quick visit to the book shop and a purchase of Treasure Island my Om Van Loon proclaimed it was time for a beer and pahit. He said I was too young for the bar despite my protestations and abandoned me, locked up in his hot dirty Opel. About 3 hours of waiting and waiting in Faletehan (and half way through Treasure Island) my Uncle appeared with a sweat and smile on his face. I refused to visit Blok M with him ever again on his weekly sojourns.
But somehow about two years later I ended up there again. I met a blok M regular. A part german lady called Ulla who lived in the new Ragunan Zoo and had brought along a baby monkey in a nappy for a drink, I discovered Blok M could be fun. In those days the most famous character in Blok M was called Clemens. He was a very good natured Hornbill bird that wandered from shop to bar to shop. He scared the shit our of any newcomers especially the hardy oilmen.
Although only chest height to the pool tables, it became my new hobby. A wasted youth. The Brits did explain they wanted to teach me how to play pool "properly" after each foul by shouting and pointing rudely to play the bloody ball behind the line of the Dee...You are talking late 60's, early 70's here? Clemens, I've never met unfortunately. I am too much of an irregular visitor. I've always liked the blok. Even on the first visit. But, back then, it was dissappointing for other reasons. There was talk about this new deadly virus. At least 90% of the Thai working girls had it. And bareback-galore blok M? One could only imagine. Spooked by the hearsay, I would cover up, not kiss and after each session, I 'd spend an hour in the shower with Dettol as best friend. Crazy.
Advantageous
07-02-15, 05:49
A good time to go? I'm solidifying the dates tomorrow morning for a hop around SEA from roughly 20 July-5 August, and I'm wondering if it's worth fitting into my plans. I'm doing HCMC-PP / SR-AC, and given the relatively dirt-cheap nature of the detour, I was wondering if the time of year would make it a wash. As an aside, will I have much more trouble as a Black monger here compared to say Thailand / PI? I'm mid-20's, not-in-the-best-shape-but-not-completely-buggered-either, dress clean, smell nice, and carry cash; that seems to be a winning combination most other places.
From what I understand, everything is closed tonight (July 3) in Jakarta for something called Nuzhulur Qur'an.
Member #4537
07-03-15, 05:22
From what I understand, everything is closed tonight (July 3) in Jakarta for something called Nuzhulur Qur'an.That's tomorrow (Saturday, 4th July) not today.
If a chic asks for 1.5, you could easily get her down to 1 this way, as Saturdays are when they make their money.
Thanks Egy Monger and Smoothy, everything is will noted but some questions come to my mind.
Are the hotels in Jakarta all green? Especially that I'm looking to book in a 5 star hotel (Ritz or Shangrila,. Etc), are they going to make a fuss if am picking a girl or two to my room every now and then? Should I bribe someone in advance?
Member #4410
07-04-15, 18:35
Thanks Egy Monger and Smoothy, everything is will noted but some questions come to my mind.
Are the hotels in Jakarta all green? Especially that I'm looking to book in a 5 star hotel (Ritz or Shangrila,. Etc), are they going to make a fuss if am picking a girl or two to my room every now and then? Should I bribe someone in advance?No, only sharia hotels make a fuss.
Thanks Egy Monger and Smoothy, everything is will noted but some questions come to my mind.
Are the hotels in Jakarta all green? Especially that I'm looking to book in a 5 star hotel (Ritz or Shangrila,. Etc), are they going to make a fuss if am picking a girl or two to my room every now and then? Should I bribe someone in advance?Actually, two of the better-known monger locales are bars/clubs in 5-star hotels, i.e., BATS and CJs, if this provides any perspective. For example, BATS is located in the Shangila. And only the "sharia hotels" (as they were referred to by another poster in this thread), would place any restrictions on this (although I can't speak to whether some of the hotels would object to bringing two girls at the same time to one's room). And the odds of inadvertently booking into a "sharia hotel" by random chance is very low, and probably non-existent if one is looking at well-known 5-star hotels.
And no bribe needed anywhere as far as I know.
And the odds of inadvertently booking into a "sharia hotel" by random chance is very low, and probably non-existentExactly. All hotels in Jakarta are girl friendly except those strange Sharia hotels that you would never stay at even by accident.
However, you could possibly stay at a Sharia hotel if you went out of your way to find one. If you are up for a Challenge and like to live on the edge, perhaps you could stay at a Sharia hotel. I've never tried this and it's just a thought, but it may work. When you arrive a the Sharia hotel, have a prostitute check in with you wearing one of those all black Saudi woman outfits that cover their entire body and face. You can claim she is your wife. After that, just have whatever prostitute you bring to the hotel wear the same outfit. How will they ever be able to tell it's not the same girl?
Exactly. All hotels in Jakarta are girl friendly except those strange Sharia hotels that you would never stay at even by accident.
However, you could possibly stay at a Sharia hotel if you went out of your way to find one. If you are up for a Challenge and like to live on the edge, perhaps you could stay at a Sharia hotel. I've never tried this and it's just a thought, but it may work. When you arrive a the Sharia hotel, have a prostitute check in with you wearing one of those all black Saudi woman outfits that cover their entire body and face. You can claim she is your wife. After that, just have whatever prostitute you bring to the hotel wear the same outfit. How will they ever be able to tell it's not the same girl?Oh, the old prostitute in a Saudi burka trick. Just remember that to make it realistic enough to get away with one has to restrict himself to 300 lb. women/prostitutes with that distinct "Saudi burka waddle."
I, myself, would rather just be less adventurous and not stay at a sharia hotel.
*snip* If you are up for a Challenge and like to live on the edge, perhaps you could stay at a Sharia hotel. I've never tried this and it's just a thought, but it may work. When you arrive a the Sharia hotel, have a prostitute check in with you wearing one of those all black Saudi woman outfits that cover their entire body and face. You can claim she is your wife. *snip"Thanks for bringing me a morning laugh, Smoothy! You are a sick little puppy. Best, TTG.
Exactly. All hotels in Jakarta are girl friendly except those strange Sharia hotels that you would never stay at even by accident.
However, you could possibly stay at a Sharia hotel if you went out of your way to find one. If you are up for a Challenge and like to live on the edge, perhaps you could stay at a Sharia hotel. I've never tried this and it's just a thought, but it may work. When you arrive a the Sharia hotel, have a prostitute check in with you wearing one of those all black Saudi woman outfits that cover their entire body and face. You can claim she is your wife. After that, just have whatever prostitute you bring to the hotel wear the same outfit. How will they ever be able to tell it's not the same girl?Sofyan hotels are the sharia ones that come to my mind. Looking for the nearest hotel with a date, I arrived at the Sofyan in jalan Cut Mutia. We could not check in because they insisted on a document that shows that my date and I live at the same address. So your idea may not work.
Sofyan hotels are the sharia ones that come to my mind. Looking for the nearest hotel with a date, I arrived at the Sofyan in jalan Cut Mutia. We could not check in because they insisted on a document that shows that my date and I live at the same address. So your idea may not work.The Sofyan Hotel Minangkabau owners also run the Menteng Group Hotels ironically. So I'd avoid them as well. These are mainly crappy 2/3 star hotels with in-house massage girls. The only hotel in this group you could make the mistake of booking is probably the Royal Kuningan (which doesn't even have a bar) though it claims to be 4 star.
http://mentenggroup.********.co.uk/view/classic
Although I've been using social media reference to wechat had me curious enough to sign up, but using it is perplexing me. I find myself needing the training wheels primer. How do I move away from my current location to see what's somewhere else? Also, all I see are profile pics and a distance. Is there any way to see who is offering services without having to open up each and every profile? It looks very labor intensive, but I'm also cognizant of my basking in ignorance here, so if anyone can chime in with a thought or two on navigating this app that would be great. The Youtube tutorials seem mostly useless from the standpoint of the monger. Thanks!
Looking for the nearest hotel with a date, I arrived at the Sofyan in jalan Cut Mutia. We could not check in because they insisted on a document that shows that my date and I live at the same address.What did you do then? Rush to the photoshops just down the road from Sarinah and have a fake photo ID made up for her?
Just to explain USPetes comment. The Menteng Hotels are definitely banging hotels. Hence the irony.
They are well known in Jakarta that these hotels are very popular amongst unmarried couples.
Also, these are where Iguana and Tiga Kuda bars are located. Both low level hooker joints.
The Sofyan Hotel Minangkabau owners also run the Menteng Group Hotels ironically. So I'd avoid them as well. These are mainly crappy 2/3 star hotels with in-house massage girls. The only hotel in this group you could make the mistake of booking is probably the Royal Kuningan (which doesn't even have a bar) though it claims to be 4 star.
http://mentenggroup.********.co.uk/view/classic
Oh that is too funny, so the guys that run the anal-retentive, holier than thou shariah hotels just also happen to run the biggest chain of sleazy, short-time hotels in central and east Jakarta with karaoke, in house massage and bars catering to Arab mongers thrown in for good measure?
Seriously, you have got to love this town.
What did you do then? Rush to the photoshops just down the road from Sarinah and have a fake photo ID made up for her?Hotel Mega Proklamasi wasn't that far away.
(Mega hotels, another chain of fukc-friendly hotels).
Although I've been using social media reference to wechat had me curious enough to sign up, but using it is perplexing me. I find myself needing the training wheels primer. How do I move away from my current location to see what's somewhere else? Also, all I see are profile pics and a distance. Is there any way to see who is offering services without having to open up each and every profile? It looks very labor intensive, but I'm also cognizant of my basking in ignorance here, so if anyone can chime in with a thought or two on navigating this app that would be great. The Youtube tutorials seem mostly useless from the standpoint of the monger. Thanks!Well, first of all put a positive profile picture of yourself. Post some pictures in your timeline, like the hotel, your room. May be a single toothbrush "looking for a companion" .
Then put your status to something like "oh, I need a massage, plus."
And the rest either is waiting or looking through other profiles. If you have some pressure better look through the profiles.
Changing the location is possible with special Apps for location spoofing.
Dee
Well, first of all put a positive profile picture of yourself. Post some pictures in your timeline, like the hotel, your room. May be a single toothbrush "looking for a companion" .
Then put your status to something like "oh, I need a massage, plus."
And the rest either is waiting or looking through other profiles. If you have some pressure better look through the profiles.
Changing the location is possible with special Apps for location spoofing.
DeeThanks, that helps. I was afraid I was an idiot, but apparently I'm not as dumb as I thought I was for being unable to figure out how to shift the location. .
Hi Guys, I've got a layover in Jakarta Oct 13 and would really like to have all night with a pretty, busty Indo girl. The one I used to see there apparently has a boyfriend now. I'm thinking of staying at Classic. Any recommendations or referrals greatly appreciated.
SteelBaton
07-11-15, 10:54
Although I've been using social media reference to wechat had me curious enough to sign up, but using it is perplexing me. I find myself needing the training wheels primer. How do I move away from my current location to see what's somewhere else? Also, all I see are profile pics and a distance. Is there any way to see who is offering services without having to open up each and every profile? It looks very labor intensive, but I'm also cognizant of my basking in ignorance here, so if anyone can chime in with a thought or two on navigatingThanks!Talion provides good advice. You need to both be seeking and have a profile that will attact the working girl or her agent to contact you. I havent used WeChat in Indo, but I assume it works pretty much the same as other parts of SEA. For seeking, just scan the photos and the tag lines. Usually a working will use a saucy photo and say something about massage. Just click on everyone of those and start trying to connect. For your own profile, use tag line that makes it clear what you're looking for.
The location thing is a hassle and I haven't tried to spoofing apps. Good luck, but expect lots of fake photos. But you can do a video call from the app to see her in real time. All free.
I find the app the most helpful for staying in touch with a girl you like. I ask every girl for her weChat ID as soon as I meet her. The app is great because even if she loses her phone you can still get in contact. Plus you can sendandreceive photos and videos. Use video chat to actually see the girl before you invite her to your room. Lastly, I use the favorites feature to store my photos and phone numbers, hotel cards, etc. If you make your sign in a bogus email account rather than your phone number you can checking anytime from any smartphone.
Traffic in Jakarta must be fantastic this week!
Traffic in Jakarta must be fantastic this week!Well we will probably find out in a day or so when those who are now in cars in Jakarta finally make it a few kilometers to their destinations and can then post something.
Hi guys!
New here, anyone knows forum user Fisherman and how to find him here? Apparently he can arrange models and artists in Jakarta.
Thanks
Member #4410
07-17-15, 20:36
Traffic in Jakarta must be fantastic this week!Some years ago I was in Kalimantan for work and since everybody on the project went home for Idul Fitri and all work ceased we poor westerners decided it would be prudent to spend that period in Jakarta. It was a unique experience. Nearly empty roads, much to the delight of the taxi drivers, and clear skies. From the 10th floor of my hotel I could clearly see the mountains South of Jakarta, which normally is impossible due to the smog.
Apparently he can arrange models and artists in Jakarta.
I don't know Fisherman, but JAD also has that kind of info (if he's still making such arrangements). I don't do those type of hook ups personally, but I do know local "talent agents" who take care of that kind of thing. There are also other web sites that are in Bahasa that specifically list those type of girls. The prices are not cheap. Which girls are in you interested in? If you are just interested in any model or artist, that is very easy to arrange. If you want Jupe or Luna Maya, that's not so easy.
Some years ago I was in Kalimantan for work and since everybody on the project went home for Idul Fitri and all work ceased we poor westerners decided it would be prudent to spend that period in Jakarta. It was a unique experience. Nearly empty roads, much to the delight of the taxi drivers, and clear skies. From the 10th floor of my hotel I could clearly see the mountains South of Jakarta, which normally is impossible due to the smog.That's the only good thing about staying in town for Idul Fitri. No traffic, no smog, but no girls.
Member #4410
07-17-15, 22:32
That's the only good thing about staying in town for Idul Fitri. No traffic, no smog, but no girls.Distinctly less, but it was better than staying in Kalimantan. In Jakarta you could go and get a beer and have a go at one of the few girls who hadn't gone home. I rember going to Melawai twice. There were some girls who had not gone home and had rented a room together. Not the optimum, but it worked.
Some years ago I was in Kalimantan for work and since everybody on the project went home for Idul Fitri and all work ceased we poor westerners decided it would be prudent to spend that period in Jakarta. It was a unique experience. Nearly empty roads, much to the delight of the taxi drivers, and clear skies. From the 10th floor of my hotel I could clearly see the mountains South of Jakarta, which normally is impossible due to the smog.When I earlier suggested it would take a very long time to get anywhere in Jakarta this week, I was recalling that on or around Idul Fitri there were massive traffic jams in Jakarta a few years ago. Maybe it was another day close to the end of Ramadan and not Idul Fitri precisely, but in any event it was explained to me that everyone was out shopping for the end of Ramadan. The most horrendous traffic I ever saw in Jakarta or anywhere else.
So when Smoothy commented the traffic would be great these days, I thought he was being facetious and that is why I responded earlier the way I did.
I don't know Fisherman, but JAD also has that kind of info (if he's still making such arrangements). I don't do those type of hook ups personally, but I do know local "talent agents" who take care of that kind of thing. There are also other web sites that are in Bahasa that specifically list those type of girls. The prices are not cheap. Which girls are in you interested in? If you are just interested in any model or artist, that is very easy to arrange. If you want Jupe or Luna Maya, that's not so easy.Came across JADs site looks like he is still active will try with him. Not really trust web sites but can you refer me to the "talent agents" you know? Money not an issue as long as can get regular face you see on TV or magazines, no necessarily Luna-Jupe level.
Cheers.
Fish Farmer
07-23-15, 23:55
Will be heading to Jakarta in August, have read the posts and won't ask any dumb questions (aka "which hotels are guest friendly" but the.
One thing I haven't found is a map or list of regions or addresses for someone who doesn't know Jakarta. Classic? BATS? CJ's? Blok M? Has anyone.
Found (or bothered to make) a map or a list of locations by region / address? Would certainly be helpful to know the layout before choosing a hotel.
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PStevens999
07-24-15, 05:17
Fish farmer -- check out Natty Bumpos's excellent 2014 Southeast report-- excellent maps of Jakarta.
Will be heading to Jakarta in August, have read the posts and won't ask any dumb questions (aka "which hotels are guest friendly" but the.
One thing I haven't found is a map or list of regions or addresses for someone who doesn't know Jakarta. Classic? BATS? CJ's? Blok M? Has anyone.
Found (or bothered to make) a map or a list of locations by region / address? Would certainly be helpful to know the layout before choosing a hotel...I've noticed when I've been writing reports in recent times that the word wrap doesn't work and so you just get one long line of text that goes of the side off the screen and makes it difficult to see what you've written. Perhaps this is why the 'hard return' has been used?
Member #4537
07-25-15, 09:23
Last night I brought a girl home from CJ's. She insisted on payment upfront, which I refused. She then says it's the new system now and all of them will start doing the same. I told her to fuck off but she wouldn't go unless I gave her 100 k. It ended up with her breaking a bunch of things in my apartment and me giving her a good slapping until a bunch of cops came over to my place trying to extort money through bogus charges she made (which failed, in case you're wondering).
And the day before I also had one who wouldn't give me a blowjob without a condom. She wanted some money but I told her to fuck off.
I do what any local monger would do and kick them out without paying even the so-called "taxi money" scam.
It's totally unreasonable to be expecting payment upfront (guaranteed recipe for poor service and rushing attitude).
I get the feeling we as foreigners are spoiling them. Guys, you should stop spoiling them and making them feel as though we're their little puppies. This is Indonesia after all. They never do this with the local mongers. Hell, if you were in one of the Kota brothels and the chic insisted on a condom you could change her for another one for free.
It's totally unreasonable to be expecting payment upfront (guaranteed recipe for poor service and rushing attitude).If the girl asked for the money up front, I'd do exactly as you did and send her packing. Paying up front is the norm at the cheaper brothels up north, but as you mentioned, you have the mamasan you can talk to if the girl is not to your liking and she will allow you to switch out the girl. I would never pay a free lancer up front. Not in Indonesia or Thailand.
As far as her asking for 100k taxi money, I think you did the right thing not giving it to her. I would have told her "if you had mentioned in the bar that you wanted the money up front, then I would not have taken you home. It's your own fault that we are not doing business, so I'm not paying your taxi." She knows damn well it's not the norm to ask for the money up front in Jakarta. I give them taxi money when we don't follow through with sex for things that are not the girl's fault, but not if it's their fault. Maybe next time she will be more honest in the bar. A few more customers like you who stand up to her and she will stop asking for money up front.
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07-26-15, 15:31
To Editor:
Please do not apply the "Text Cleanup Script" (Autocorrect) to every single post. It often thrashes perfectly readable text. Thanks!So true.
Every time I post a report, I must go back and EDIT it, to clean it up, fix carriage returns, write emoticons and smileys (all removed by the autocorrect). Only after the edit fix the report looks how I wished.
This autocorrect is an option of the forum platform. I think it should be disabled (humble suggestion to Jackson).
Fish farmer -- check out Natty Bumpos's excellent 2014 Southeast report-- excellent maps of Jakarta.Any chance you have a link to that post at all? Have been searching by user name and can't find a single post.
This autocorrect is an option of the forum platform. I think it should be disabled (humble suggestion to Jackson).Not only is it an option: it is an editable option and the editor of this forum has chosen to act as an old fashioned English teacher and added a lot of "rules" to prevent SMS type posts resulting in a total overkill.
I posted a proposal in the designated forum two years ago, but no reaction from the editor. This proposal showed how the "Text Cleanup Script" garbles well written text.
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PStevens999
07-27-15, 05:42
Here is a link to one part of Natty's awesome report. Couldn't find the maps, but I do remember seeing his maps of Jakarta.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta/page91
WrinkleFree
07-27-15, 15:32
Reading the Jakarta reports it seems at Alexis Hotel, Classic Hotel & Malioboro Hotel each session with a girl only includes "1 shot" which is very similar to Macau saunas. In China though, most "sauna" type places allow for 2-3 shots as long as you can finish within the 60-90 mins.
Has anyone had experience negotiating a slightly higher price for 2 shots at Malioboro, Alexis, etc?
Or for 2 shots is the only option with a freelancer LT situation?
Double Shooter
07-27-15, 20:14
Last night I brought a girl home from CJ's. She insisted on payment upfront, which I refused. She then says it's the new system now and all of them will start doing the same. I told her to fuck off but she wouldn't go unless I gave her 100 k. It ended up with her breaking a bunch of things in my apartment and me giving her a good slapping until a bunch of cops came over to my place trying to extort money through bogus charges she made (which failed, in case you're wondering).
IDR 100 K = USD 8.
You are a brave man to risk dealing with an angry hooker and corrupt cops for such a pittance.
Did you enjoy "giving her a good slapping"?
Member #4537
07-27-15, 21:13
Reading the Jakarta reports it seems at Alexis Hotel, Classic Hotel & Malioboro Hotel each session with a girl only includes "1 shot" which is very similar to Macau saunas. In China though, most "sauna" type places allow for 2-3 shots as long as you can finish within the 60-90 mins.
Has anyone had experience negotiating a slightly higher price for 2 shots at Malioboro, Alexis, etc?
Or for 2 shots is the only option with a freelancer LT situation?Unless you somehow reach a deal privately with the girl it's only 1 shot. There's no 2 shots at Malioboro, Alexis etc.
Member #4537
07-27-15, 21:19
IDR 100 K = USD 8.
You are a brave man to risk dealing with an angry hooker and corrupt cops for such a pittance.
Did you enjoy "giving her a good slapping"?It's not about the money it's about the principle. If I had given her the money upfront or the 100 k, she'd go and tell the other hookers at CJ's that they can do the same too with other customers. By refusing to do it their way I am at least contributing to the expectation of good and unrushed service.
And yes the slap felt nice especially after seeing my $150 bottle of wine and other items broken to pieces.
It's not about the money it's about the principle. If I had given her the money upfront or the 100 k, she'd go and tell the other hookers at CJ's that they can do the same too with other customers. By refusing to do it their way I am at least contributing to the expectation of good and unrushed service.
And yes the slap felt nice especially after seeing my $150 bottle of wine and other items broken to pieces.I am not too sure about the principle here if it is to contribute to "the expectation of good and unrushed service". One ought to think carefully of "principle" in our hobby. Think of what this hooker may tell her friends about her experience with you. Could that not poison the minds of her friends and their friends against punters from your part of the world? I know it is difficult sometimes but I always try my best to keep control of my emotions in situations like that, especially in a foreign country. An attempt to save $8 could end up with a loss of over $150, or worse.
Reading the Jakarta reports it seems at Alexis Hotel, Classic Hotel & Malioboro Hotel each session with a girl only includes "1 shot" which is very similar to Macau saunas. In China though, most "sauna" type places allow for 2-3 shots as long as you can finish within the 60-90 mins.
Has anyone had experience negotiating a slightly higher price for 2 shots at Malioboro, Alexis, etc?
Or for 2 shots is the only option with a freelancer LT situation?I can't speak about Malioboro or Alexis, but I've always gotten multiple shots at Classic. Sometimes 3 if I can manage it within the 1 hour time frame.
I can't speak about Malioboro or Alexis, but I've always gotten multiple shots at Classic. Sometimes 3 if I can manage it within the 1 hour time frame.I have to admit that I do not know if you can get two shots at Classic. One shot with a starfish is enough for me. If the sex was good, I may stay and try for a second round, but it never is. I am normally glad to leave the room soon after the first shot at Classic.
I do get off two rounds at Maribaya, but those girls actually provide good sex.
PStevens999
07-28-15, 06:54
I read EgyMonger's post about the FL girl that demanded payment up front. I would bet that all of us have dealt with this issue at one time or another. It can be tough negotiating through it. And while we all certainly agree that we don't want to pay up front--and while this girl may have been an absolute *****, there is no excuse whatsoever for "giving her a good slapping" - I don't give a damn what she did. If that had happened stateside, EgyMonger probably would have been prosecuted for assault. I can see how this must have been handled-- when he brags about giving her a "good slapping".
the FL girl that demanded payment up front. I would bet that all of us have dealt with this issue at one time or another. I can honestly say that I have never had a free lance girl in Jakarta ever ask me for money up front. Not once in almost 20 years and hundreds of free lancers.
In other countries, yes. But not Indonesia.
I'm not saying the chick should be slapped like the old Yankee Doodle Dandy Jimmy Cagney used to do to the chicks in his movies when they got out of line, thrown off a cliff, or physically abused in any way.
However, I would refuse to pay up front, tell her shame on her for not specifying that in the bar. Because now she has wasted both of our time, and ask her to leave. I would prefer that Indonesia retains it's charm rather than end up like places in the Western world where the girls demand the money up front then provide the worst service possible (don't touch me here, don't touch me there) because they already have their money. It's the same thing with contractors. If you are getting work done on your house, I recommend you do not pay the contractor the full amount up front. If you do, you will regret that.
FireStorm1
07-28-15, 12:03
I've never have had a FL ask for money upfront. I've only had one bad experience in Jakarta and it was on my recent trip. I picked up two girls for a threesome, we agreed on 600 k + taxi fare for short time. One girl was great and the other one was horrible. I gave the good girl a 200 k tip while the other girl was in the bathroom and put my finger to my mouth, so she wouldn't say anything to the other girl. As they were about to leave, I then gave them 50 k for the taxi. The bad girl was complaining that it wasn't enough and demanded more money for the taxi plus a tip. There was no way that I was going to tip her for her lousy performance, I then reluctantly took back the 50 k and gave them a 100 k taxi fare. She still complained and wanted more money. I had enough and took back the 100 k and told them to get the fuck out. The girl who I gave the tip to was angry with her friend and tried to convince her to leave, but she refused to leave until I gave her taxi money. I then threatened to call security and they immediately left.
Member #4537
07-28-15, 14:12
I'm not saying the chick should be slapped like the old Yankee Doodle Dandy Jimmy Cagney used to do to the chicks in his movies when they got out of line, thrown off a cliff, or physically abused in any way.Had she walked out peacefully without breaking my things I'd have just let it be. But I've had a broken wine bottle, tiles and wall painted with hard-to-remove stains of red wine, a broken laptop, vase, mirror and door handle all as a result of her fit of rage. What am I supposed to do? Cheer her for causing upwards of 5 million in damages? A local or Asian monger could have done much worse. Anyway, I hope this isn't a trend of things to come and I just got unlucky with the whole upfront payment thing.
I'm not saying the chick should be slapped like the old Yankee Doodle Dandy Jimmy Cagney used to do to the chicks in his movies when they got out of line, thrown off a cliff, or physically abused in any way.The Roman emperor Tiberius after a night of debauchery with the most beautiful young women in the Roman empire at his cliff-top royal residence in Capri would, in the morning, throw the nubile nymphs 300 feet off the cliffs into the sea below. We men have come a long way in how we treat women but there is still room for improvement.
We men have come a long way in how we treat women but there is still room for improvement.Unfortunately, women have come a long way in forgetting how to take care of their man. That's the main reason western men prefer Asian women these days.
The Roman emperor Tiberius after a night of debauchery with the most beautiful young women in the Roman empire at his cliff-top royal residence in Capri would, in the morning, throw the nubile nymphs 300 feet off the cliffs into the sea below. What a waste. I wish I could have been down there with a net.
When I can, I like to pay upfront in dodgy places, I have been caught out a few times with extortionist bills at karaoke, spa, fish-bowls, massage, fuck-hotels after the deed. However I always tip for good service.
Last time I was in a dirty little fishbowl in the Darmo Pk Ruko SBY, the girl gave a very nice GFE, so I tipped her well, she was such a sweet little thing and was genuinely surprised and happy.
I see there are comments in the bali thread about tipping amounts. Well as far as tips go. I don't give a flying fuck about ruining the market and giving a girl a great tip for great service. They already think bules have alot of money and give tips, so is my occasional good tip for great service going to fuck anything up? - if it does I don't care. Its a service industry and I reward accordingly. Seriously some of you guys quibble over $10 usd for a girl who has no employment prospects, who has a working lifespan of maybe 5 yrs, who is risking her life with STD's, who is sooner or later going to get pregnant to 1 of the 8 guys who fucks her a night and who is doing one of the most degrading jobs in the entire world!
Bad service = no tip.
Back on topic. As for freelancers, same here I have never pay beforehand. Never been asked, but the response would be the same as Egy's.
I have been asked upfront for cash for rent, medical, schooling - (segway coming- this week even before meeting a Skout girl it happened. She wanted 700 k for rent and no sex? Just meet for coffee and hand over the mula!
My 2 rupiah's worth.
Had she walked out peacefully without breaking my things I'd have just let it be. But I've had a broken wine bottle, tiles and wall painted with hard-to-remove stains of red wine, a broken laptop, vase, mirror and door handle all as a result of her fit of rage. What am I supposed to do? Cheer her for causing upwards of 5 million in damages? A local or Asian monger could have done much worse. Anyway, I hope this isn't a trend of things to come and I just got unlucky with the whole upfront payment thing.
Had she walked out peacefully without breaking my things I'd have just let it be. But I've had a broken wine bottle, tiles and wall painted with hard-to-remove stains of red wine, a broken laptop, vase, mirror and door handle all as a result of her fit of rage. What am I supposed to do? Cheer her for causing upwards of 5 million in damages? A local or Asian monger could have done much worse. Anyway, I hope this isn't a trend of things to come and I just got unlucky with the whole upfront payment thing.The interesting bit of the story you leave out is how you dealt with the cops. If the girl had no fear about calling the cops it must have meant she had connections and felt reasonably confident that they would back her up, especially when they see that the guy lives in a nice apartment and is clearly flush with cash (and I will pass over the question as to why anyone in their right minds would pay $150 for a bottle of wine, it's like paying $1000 for a call girl, ie ten times too much for what you are getting at the end of the day).
What did you do to convince the cops to believe you rather than her? After all, the only thing they could see was a scene of some violence in which a girl was alleging, correctly, that she had been assaulted, how did you get past that one? Are you very eloquent in Bahasa Indonesia or did money talk?
For the rest of us the lesson is don't take call girls back to your home, why do you want them to know where you live and how much you are worth? You can get a bog standard hotel room in Jakarta for fifty bucks, you only need it for a few hours, you really don't need to impress the girls you know, they don't give you a better class of service if you ply them with expensive wine (as is evident in this case) just pay them the going rate and they will give you the same service as all the other johns get, whether good, bad or indifferent.
When you go to an MP or casa you have to follow house rules. For example in Colombia you pay after the deed whereas in India the norm is that you pay before and in some countries some places require you to pay before while others allow you to pay after. However, if you take a girl away from her place of work to your pad or a love motel the rules should be set by you and the girl despite what the norm may be in that particular city; it is best to set those rules beforehand. In such an instance I insist that that payment be made after service and inform her of that at the time of first contact. I do that in whatever country I am in. Fortunately, I have never had a chica agree to payment after and upon arrival insist on payment before. If that happens we will have an impasse and I will ask her to leave immediately and refuse to pay her taxi fare. However, if I determine that I am dealing with wacko I will count my losses and give her the taxi money. You need to do shit sometimes to prevent worse shit.
In such an instance I insist that that payment be made after service and inform her of that at the time of first contact. I do that in whatever country I am in. I'm guessing you have never been to Indonesia. This type of thing has never been a problem. To mention it to the girl would be redundant (and just putting ideas in their heads) because it's always been the norm that the payment is after the service in Indonesia.
I think this one time for Egy will be a one off. I doubt any of us will experience it in Indo with a free lancer.
I would hate to think that we have to start doing full on negotiating not only for price, but also whether that money is up front or after, and also what is allowed during sex. That's always been the charm of Indonesia. You don't have to mention those things. Hell, until not too long ago, the girls didn't even mention price. The girls just went home with you assuming you would give them the proper "tip", and in the morning you would give them the proper amount. Most times the girls didn't even look at how much money you gave them.
Why keep pushing Indonesia to fall into the same crap category as the western world?
Hello all,
Booked my ticket to Jarkarta yesterday. But then, while going through this forum, I came across some posts on police check ups for ID, Drugs etc. This kinda scared me. I'm not the kinda person to take any chances on this. Would rather cancel my ticket and accept the losses (its non-refundable). I've been to Bangkok many times. Never had to worry about anything. In fact, I didn't carry my passport with me when I went mongering in Bangkok. I always kept it in the safety locker. Is it safe to travel in Jakarta without being hassled by the police for bribe? Will they stop me while coming out from a bar / club and ask for my passport (original)?. What about the drug checks? Scared after reading some articles on the web about drugs getting planted on you. I'm mostly a daytime guy and can restrict myself to places like Hotel Classic and Malioboro. Would really appreciate any advice on this matter.
Thanks
why anyone in their right minds would pay $150 for a bottle of wine, it's like paying $1000 for a call girl, ie ten times too much for what you are getting at the end of the day)I hope I am still in my right mind, because I have paid $150 USD for a bottle of wine, and even more than that. If you like good wine, no price is too high!
Hello mongers.
Could someone please provide reviews or best bars and pick up points in Jakarta.
Where can we get good free lancers. Maybe disease risk free.
Again humble request and please provide your experience and guidance.
Thanks.
John Aldrich
07-29-15, 17:38
Hello mongers.
Could someone please provide reviews or best bars and pick up points in Jakarta.
Where can we get good free lancers. Maybe disease risk free.
Again humble request and please provide your experience and guidance.
Thanks.There is lot of info in the forum. Please do read the forum. All senior members have invested a lot of time exploring places and then made posts here. So please do RTFF.
Hello all,
Booked my ticket to Jarkarta yesterday. But then, while going through this forum, I came across some posts on police check ups for ID, Drugs etc. This kinda scared me. I'm not the kinda person to take any chances on this. Would rather cancel my ticket and accept the losses (its non-refundable). I've been to Bangkok many times. Never had to worry about anything. In fact, I didn't carry my passport with me when I went mongering in Bangkok. I always kept it in the safety locker. Is it safe to travel in Jakarta without being hassled by the police for bribe? Will they stop me while coming out from a bar / club and ask for my passport (original)?. What about the drug checks? Scared after reading some articles on the web about drugs getting planted on you. I'm mostly a daytime guy and can restrict myself to places like Hotel Classic and Malioboro. Would really appreciate any advice on this matter.
ThanksIt's not likely you will be stopped during a short visit. Even if you did get stopped by the police, the bribe you would have to pay would be less than the cost of cancelling your flight.
Robert Long
07-29-15, 17:58
I hope I am still in my right mind, because I have paid $150 USD for a bottle of wine, and even more than that. If you like good wine, no price is too high!A bottle of Australian Wine that I pay $7. 00 for in Honolulu, is $40.00 in Bali. Yellow Tail. So $150.00 in Indonesia is no big deal. The duty on imports there is just ridicules.
RL.
Black Page
07-29-15, 18:53
A bottle of Australian Wine that I pay $7. 00 for in Honolulu, is $40.00 in Bali. Yellow Tail. So $150.00 in Indonesia is no big deal. The duty on imports there is just ridicules.
RL.True. But some months ago I noticed a bottle of Cognac Remy Martin XO 750 ML, which is priced about 150 EUR in duty free shops of most airports wordwide incl. Europe and Singapore Changi, sold for 1. 45 M IDR in a shop of Batam!.
That is about 100 EUR at the rate of that time.
Mysteries of Indonesia. Fake? Deteriorated? Stolen? Underground market?
Robert Long
07-30-15, 02:08
True. But some months ago I noticed a bottle of Cognac Remy Martin XO 750 ML, which is priced about 150 EUR in duty free shops of most airports wordwide incl. Europe and Singapore Changi, sold for 1. 45 M IDR in a shop of Batam!.
That is about 100 EUR at the rate of that time.
Mysteries of Indonesia. Fake? Deteriorated? Stolen? Underground market?There is nothing free about Duty Free. They pay millions to secure contracts in airports and with that name customers assume that something is free. I am a cognac drinker myself. And I always buy a liter of Hennessy or Remy in Taipei on my way to either Bangkok or Denpasar. Same price as any store in Honolulu.
The same with Cologne or Aftershave, Polo green or red in DF is $95.00, it's only $65.00 in Macys in Honolulu. I always get the perfume sets for the ladies I know but I buy on the flight and get a discount as a gold customer on China Air.
I have never heard of a grey market on cognac. But don't put anything pass the free market in Asia.
RL.
I hope I am still in my right mind, because I have paid $150 USD for a bottle of wine, and even more than that. If you like good wine, no price is too high!Hey, each to their own, I have never been one of these people who feel the need to tell other people how to spend their money but it's just that I have rarely found much of a co-relation between price and the quality of wine (spirits like cognac and whiskey, I accept there is a distinct difference). There's cheap plonk and then there's decent wine, but above $100 a bottle and you really aren't seeing any great difference, there's no way a $500 bottle of wine is ten times better than a $50 bottle (I am of course referring to normal prices, not Indonesian prices).
In the same way that an Rp 80 million-for-two-hours sinetron artis can turn out to be a total starfish, and you can have a great night of unbridled passion with a good time girl fresh up from the kampung for the price of a couple of Long Island Ice Teas, so with wine more often than not you are paying for the prestige rather than any great increment in quality.
The most sublime wine I ever drank was in a little roadside bistro somewhere south of Lyon in early September 1998, it cost a couple of francs a bottle and was simply magnificent. By contrast I was visiting the home of a Chinese businessman in Jakarta once, and to show me what a connoisseur he was he opened a bottle of Chateauneuf de Pape of some supposedly exquisite vintage and for which he paid an astronomical sum, he sipped it with me, rolling his eyes at the sheer delight of the heavenly nectar, I hadn't the heart to tell him it tasted like vinegar.
But like I say, each to their own, you pays your money and you takes your choice.
Unfortunately, women have come a long way in forgetting how to take care of their man. That's the main reason western men prefer Asian women these days.Sometimes I wish there was a like button on this forum. Head of nail, meet hammer.
The interesting bit of the story you leave out is how you dealt with the cops.Yeah, I was thinking the same when I read the his first post.
Oh, and LOL at all the bleeding hearts saying how bad it was he slapped her. Wake the fuck up to yourselves, the girl went on a rampage in his apartment causing a lot of damage, and you think he should just stand by and calmly ask her to please stop? We don't know the details, but it sounds like she got off lightly. You are not in Kansas anymore Toto.
Oh, and LOL at all the bleeding hearts saying how bad it was he slapped her. Wake the fuck up to yourselves, the girl went on a rampage in his apartment causing a lot of damage, and you think he should just stand by and calmly ask her to please stop? We don't know the details, but it sounds like she got off lightly. You are not in Kansas anymore Toto.The guys complaining about that are likely Americans. American men have been brain washed over the past 40 years. I know because I'm one of them. If you look at the old movies, American men slapped women all the time when they got out of line. Even Ronald Reagan did it in the movies. These days, we have it beaten into our heads that it's not acceptable at any time to touch a woman in any way. Even if the woman goes ballistic and burns your house down, you can't touch her. I've never hit a woman in any manner in my life and likely never will. But casting aside the decades of mental conditioning in my life in the USA, and logically reviewing the situation, that chick deserved to be slapped. I think our way of looking at it in the USA is wrong. I agree that you shouldn't "beat" a woman. But to slap her with reasonable force when she is clearly acting destructively towards you or your possessions, in order to let her know that is not acceptable, should be fine.
DrDoalot: The police stops tend to be, or maybe exclusively are, at night. Out of an abundance of caution I always carry my passport in a passport holder in my front pocket and securely tied to a belt loop. It is a PITA but I too dread getting stopped particularly without my passport.
I too generally go out during the day and early evening so avoid most of this. But a couple of times at night I did get stopped, in one instance ending up having to give the criminal in blue (maybe it's not blue in Jakarta, perhaps brown, not sure) a $10 US bribe because I only had a copy of my passport with me.
But I wouldn't cancel a trip over the corrupt police issue unless you were planning on spending all your time at late-night clubs taking ecstasy, which it sounds like you aren't.
Yep, 100% agree. If it had been a man damaging his property and they were in certain states in the USA presumably he would have been within his rights to pull out a gun and use deadly force to stop him. Of course this is Indonesia, and Egy was not packing a gun, I assume!
I'm still dying to know how he dealt with the police though.
The guys complaining about that are likely Americans. American men have been brain washed over the past 40 years. I know because I'm one of them. If you look at the old movies, American men slapped women all the time when they got out of line. Even Ronald Reagan did it in the movies. These days, we have it beaten into our heads that it's not acceptable at any time to touch a woman in any way. Even if the woman goes ballistic and burns your house down, you can't touch her. I've never hit a woman in any manner in my life and likely never will. But casting aside the decades of mental conditioning in my life in the USA, and logically reviewing the situation, that chick deserved to be slapped. I think our way of looking at it in the USA is wrong. I agree that you shouldn't "beat" a woman. But to slap her with reasonable force when she is clearly acting destructively towards you or your possessions, in order to let her know that is not acceptable, should be fine.
Out of an abundance of caution I always carry my passport in a passport holder in my front pocket and securely tied to a belt loop. It is a PITA but I too dread getting stopped particularly without my passport.
I leave my passport hidden somewhere in the room, not necessarily in the room safe either. I would rather hand over $10 once in a while than risk losing my passport. Luckily I have never been stopped so never had to pay the bribe, I actually thought it was higher than that.
True. But some months ago I noticed a bottle of Cognac Remy Martin XO 750 ML, which is priced about 150 EUR in duty free shops of most airports wordwide incl. Europe and Singapore Changi, sold for 1. 45 M IDR in a shop of Batam!.
That is about 100 EUR at the rate of that time.
Mysteries of Indonesia. Fake? Deteriorated? Stolen? Underground market?That's because Batam is in a Free Trade Zone, hence there is no import tax levied on the items unlike most other places in Indonesia. If the exporting country then also has a tax free agreement with Indonesia the only factor is profit of the companies involved. That's also the reason why cars in Batam are very cheap and you are able to actually import your car into the island, something nearly impossible in the rest of Indo. Small problem; if you wish to take the car of the island you are required to pay the full amount of taxes, so event he ferry to Bintan won't be possible in that imported car.
If you know where to look, cheap black market alcohol can be had in Jakarta as well, at nearly the same prices. The way it works, legit companies import 100 boxes of item x, pay the duty on 80% of it and sell 20% on the black market at higher margin rates for them. Still cheap if you compare it to the selling prices in most shops, see list below for example. First price is box, second per bottle. No, contacts are not available through PM.
SUPER PREMIUM
63 Martell Chanteloup 6 x 70 cl 25,000,000 4,166,667
64 Martell Cohiba 3 x 70 cl 25,000,000 8,333,333
65 Martell Creation 3 x 70 cl 18,000,000 6,000,000
66 Martell Lor 1 x 70 cl 62,000,000 62,000,000
67 Remy Martin Louis XIII 1 x 70 cl 45,000,000 45,000,000
PREMIUM
68 Courvoisier XO 12 x 70 cl 22,000,000 1,833,333
69 Martell Cordon Bleu 12 x 70 cl 23,000,000 1,916,667
70 Martell Cordon Bleu - Large 12 x 100 cl 32,000,000 2,666,667
71 Martell XO 12 x 70 cl 29,000,000 2,416,667
72 Remy Martin XO 12 x 70 cl 25,000,000 2,083,333
V.S.O.P
73 Courvoisier Premier Reserve 12 x 70 cl 12,500,000 1,041,667
74 Martell VSOP 12 x 70 cl 9,000,000 750,000
75 Remy Martin VSOP 12 x 70 cl 9,000,000 750,000
PREMIUM PACKING PRICE/CASE PRICE/BOTTLE
120 Absolut Elyx 12 x 75 cl 7,000,000 583,333
121 Ciroc 12 x 75 cl 8,000,000 666,667
122 Grey Goose Original 12 x 75 cl 6,000,000 500,000
123 Kettle One 12 x 75 cl 4,300,000 358,333
124 Russian Imperial 12 x 75 cl 6,000,000 500,000
125 Russian Platinum 12 x 75 cl 4,500,000 375,000
126 Skyy 90 12 x 70 cl 6,500,000 541,667
127 Smirnoff Black 12 x 75 cl 4,000,000 333,333
I leave my passport hidden somewhere in the room, not necessarily in the room safe either. I would rather hand over $10 once in a while than risk losing my passport. Luckily I have never been stopped so never had to pay the bribe, I actually thought it was higher than that.The one time--a few years ago--I was pulled over in a Blue Bird taxi the criminal in blue (or brown) first asked for $100 US. I laughed (as in that's not going to happen) and ended up giving him 100,000 rupiah, around $10. I had heard back then you could get away with 50,000, but it didn't really matter to me; I just wanted to get out of there.
These days the amount I hear most often is 100,000, which is now less than $8. But the idea of dealing with corrupt cops makes me want to avoid situations where it is likely to happen (e.g., for awhile I knew where in North Jakarta they were likely to be posted during the evenings and so avoided those routes).
I leave my passport hidden somewhere in the room, not necessarily in the room safe either. I would rather hand over $10 once in a while than risk losing my passport. Luckily I have never been stopped so never had to pay the bribe, I actually thought it was higher than that.I completely agree. There is no way that I would recommend carrying your passport around Jakarta with you to try to save 10 bucks on the rare occasion the cops pull you over. I've been pulled over an average of less than once a year. Even if I were pulled over once a month, I still would not carry my passport.
Black Page
07-30-15, 15:37
That's because Batam is in a Free Trade Zone, hence there is no import tax levied on the items unlike most other places in Indonesia.Also the *duty free* shop in Changi Airport is a free trade zone, that is without taxes applied on new prices!
Such a price difference (excl. Taxes) is huge (100 Eur vs. 150 Eur).
Robert Long
07-30-15, 18:02
I completely agree. There is no way that I would recommend carrying your passport around Jakarta with you to try to save 10 bucks on the rare occasion the cops pull you over. I've been pulled over an average of less than once a year. Even if I were pulled over once a month, I still would not carry my passport.I take a photo of mine and store it in my Hand Phone. Or you can make a photo copy and carry that with your International drivers license. Never carry your PP for any reason unless you need to clear the airport.
RL.
I take a photo of mine and store it in my Hand Phone. Or you can make a photo copy and carry that with your International drivers license. Never carry your PP for any reason unless you need to clear the airport.
RL.I would do that, but I worry that if I bring out my cell phone and show the cop a picture, he might scroll through and see all the naked pictures I've taken of the Indo girls I've recently had sex with. Then he'd have me on a pornography charge.
Member #4537
07-31-15, 02:35
Yep, 100% agree. If it had been a man damaging his property and they were in certain states in the USA presumably he would have been within his rights to pull out a gun and use deadly force to stop him. Of course this is Indonesia, and Egy was not packing a gun, I assume!
I'm still dying to know how he dealt with the police though.At first they wanted some money to drop charges but I refused to give them. Probably a deal was made that they all get a piece of the pie including the hooker.
I told them what really happened and they believed me. Her version of the story was that I took her by force and raped her!
She didn't tell them she was a freelance prostitute which only made matters worse on her end (technically being an illegal activity according to Indonesian law).
They knew she was full of shit and I even told them they could check the CCTV on the elevator if they wanted to see if I really took her by force.
I spoke in fluent Bahasa which shocked the hooker. Previously I had only conversed in English. Had she known I could speak in Bahasa perhaps she wouldn't have tried to launch bogus charges against me.
Yep, 100% agree. If it had been a man damaging his property and they were in certain states in the USA presumably he would have been within his rights to pull out a gun and use deadly force to stop him. Of course this is Indonesia, and Egy was not packing a gun, I assume!
I'm still dying to know how he dealt with the police though.Go to youtube and check out Bill Burr (aka Kuby from Breaking Bad), his routine "Why I do this" covers this, 23 minutes in, very funny.
Also "Bill Burr on Rihanna and Chris Brown", every ass kicking doesn't just fall out of the f*ing sky.
I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.
I have sessioned with almost all the nationalities of South East Asia. Of these I have a lot of experience with four and would rate their service levels as follows:
(1) Filipinas (the best from my experience);.
(2) Thais / Chinese (I can't rate either above the other);.
(3) Indians.
I do not have enough experience with Indonesians to rate them, have just been with a few. Is there anyone with considerable experience with both Indonesians and Thais to rate their service levels against each other?
.. Money not an issue as long as can get regular face you see on TV or magazines, no necessarily Luna-Jupe level.
Cheers.Jupe is scheduled to work at the Emporium club (both her and the club have gone rather downhill over the past 6 months unfortunately) - on one of the upcoming Wednesdays in August.
She will cost the 100 k entrance fee, 600 k for the half hour room deal the fagasans offer, and whatever you deem fit to pay afterwards.
I'm not in town but would be interested in a report.
Dear all Seniors,
I was stationed in Jakarta last year for few months and have quite a lot of funs back then in Blok M (Top Gun or MyBar) and during my 2 months stay there, I have 1 frequent girl who I continuous repeat and her name is Mawar.
And I will be going back to Jakarta on this coming September and I did try to contact her but her mobile is unreachable. I would like to ask if any of the seniors brothers here know any girl that name Mawar still available in Blok M?
Thanks in advance.
Crocodilexp
08-01-15, 17:06
I have sessioned with almost all the nationalities of South East Asia.
(1) Filipinas (the best from my experience);.
(2) Thais / Chinese (I can't rate either above the other);.
(3) Indians.
Interesting topic, but given the huge variety of venues, it's difficult to rate the entire nationalities for PFP quality.
For instance, in Thailand, there's everything from $10 streetwalkers and low-end brothels, over Farang oriented beer bars, agogo bars and various "massage" options, to high-end gentleman's clubs for wealthy Thais. Service levels vary vastly, since expectations vary depending on the venue. More expensive is not always better, though (higher price buys selection, surroundings and average looks, not so much service quality).
In my experience (mostly in lower-end venues), Chinese have been almost invariably awful (grab the money and run, provide minimal service if forced), while Thais were at attempting to be somewhat agreeable, even at the low end. As for Indonesians, I don't have extensive experience, but their attitude seems more similar to Thais than to Chinese for me. They make some effort to get along, and provide OK, if not stellar service.
Jupe is scheduled to work at the Emporium club (both her and the club have gone rather downhill over the past 6 months unfortunately) - on one of the upcoming Wednesdays in August.
She will cost the 100 k entrance fee, 600 k for the half hour room deal the fagasans offer, and whatever you deem fit to pay afterwards.
I'm not in town but would be interested in a report."She" will cost 100 k entrance and 600 k for a half hour room? I don't get the meaning of that. There is no way that anyone is having sex with Jupe for 600 k. She just had that big hit song last year and she's still on TV almost daily.
Member #4698
08-01-15, 20:27
Hey guys, check out this video Comparison Review of Asian Girls for Single Male Travellers and Tourists:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwMXheQrRTU
Of course this is only one punter's opinion and I find some exceptions to his conclusions notably I think he under rates the beauty of Indonesian girls, but I agree strongly with his rating of Filipinas and Thai girls and the author does present a useful framework for evaluation. I would rate Thai and Indo girls at the top. Pinays a close third while I find Chinese girls the most seriously attractive and unfortunately the most expensive. See what you think. Enjoy.
Black Page
08-01-15, 20:44
I agree strongly with his rating of Filipinas and Thai girls, but I think he under rates the beauty of Indonesian girls. See what you think. Enjoy.I would not insist with promoting too much the beauty and sweetness of Indo girls.
Indonesia is a large country, but we don't really want to see it invaded by hords of white punters holding a beer in the right hand and money in the left hand.
(Yes, I declare myself guilty for my reports from Batam).
I don't think there is any doubt that Japanese, Chinese, Korean, and Vietnamese are better looking than Cambodians, Thais, Filipinas, and Indos. But they are more expensive.
Sex with Asian girls is nice, but there's not a lot of passion involved in the sex. The best sex and the worst sex I've ever had in my life has been in South America. Those girls have more passion.
Thanks very much for the response guys. I liked the video and I think it is very much on the money. As I said I have considerable experience with Thais, Filipinas and Chinese. Asiansexdiary rated the women on a number of categories including horniness which I totally agree with in respect of the girls with which I am most familiar. However, what I have found with Chinese women is that they may not be as horny as Thai women but because of their work ethic they provide good service. I could do without the fake moaning but once you are paying they see it as their duty to give you the required performance for your money so I found, for example, that there was no complaining about the length of time that they were being pounded as is done by other nationalities for if you have paid for two hours they acknowledge that you are required to get two hours worth.
I am deeply intrigued by his rating of Indonesians, as being in Thailand right now I am contemplating hopping over there for a lengthy visit. I have sampled only a few Indonesians mostly in Singapore and was happy with them but from my little experience I would not rate their horniness as excellent but again I am not qualified to assess this. The only nationality I would give a 10 to in horniness are Brazilians followed by a 9 to Salvadorean women. I would actually give Filipinas a 7 and Thais a 6 in horniness but rate their service levels as equal. Colombians get an 8 from me in horniness. Beauty is the most important category for me but Japan is way too expensive and there has been a severe crackdown in what used to be one of my favorite stomping grounds, CP in southern China. I would say horniness is perhaps the second most important category for me.
With respect to the variety of service one can get in a single destination I have taken that into consideration in my assessments and from my experience there is indeed a variation between the service provided by the more expensive hookers and the cheaper ones with the former generally providing better service but it is still easy to compare the general rating of one country with that of another. If I do visit Indonesia I will certainly adjudicate on their beauty. In terms of beauty I would rate Filipinas and Thais as equal but I would not argue with anyone who disagrees with this. However, I would dispute anyone who does not agree that Chinese girls are more beautiful than Thais and Filipinas. In terms of expense my experience in China during my last visit there in 2012 was cheaper than my current experience in Thailand; however, that was three years ago and one should take inflation into account and I have been making numerous visits to the high end soapies.
I rate the service levels of Filipinas higher than that of Thais. I would rate the horniness of Thais as 6 and Chinese as 5 but for reasons aforesaid would rate their service levels as equal.
I rate the service levels of Filipinas higher than that of Thais.Have you ever been to the Eden Club in Bangkok? I'd rate the service there the best anywhere in the world.
Have you ever been to the Eden Club in Bangkok? I'd rate the service there the best anywhere in the world.Off thread I know. But the Eden Club is pure PSE to a programme and orchestrated activity which is apparent if you go more than once. Very little creativity and almost no response to a punters's interests.
Now Filiipino girls, IMHO, are far more creative and appreciative!
I dropped by at Berlian earlier today. Yikes! Talk about gone down hill! It always used to be an open couch where you could sit down and talk with the girls, which I think is an important part of the process. I like to see who's going to catch my eye and express a bit of enthusiasm, those are the ones who usually provide good service. But now it's a fish bowl and a pretty lousy one at that, a few bored looking forty year olds fiddling with their mobile phones. I didn't stay.
Any news from Maribaya? Running on full speed again after the Lebaran break?
Have you ever been to the Eden Club in Bangkok? I'd rate the service there the best anywhere in the world.Have you been to Brazil?
Have you been to Brazil?I'm no expert in Brazil, as I've only been to Rio once for a week. I've been to most countries in South America, and I stated a few posts ago that the best and worst sex I've ever had is in South America. The girls in South America are the most passionate and best in bed (and they are better looking than Asian girls). However, as far as "service" where the girls are basically your willing and energetic servants for an hour and a half, I think Eden Club in Bangkok is the best. Those girls are well trained.
I'm no expert in Brazil, as I've only been to Rio once for a week. I've been to most countries in South America, and I stated a few posts ago that the best and worst sex I've ever had is in South America. The girls in South America are the most passionate and best in bed (and they are better looking than Asian girls). However, as far as "service" where the girls are basically your willing and energetic servants for an hour and a half, I think Eden Club in Bangkok is the best. Those girls are well trained.My tastes are different. I prefer girls who are genuinely horny and will bang my brains out rather than girls who are trained to fake it.
My tastes are different. I prefer girls who are genuinely horny and will bang my brains out rather than girls who are trained to fake it.Well now, I don't consider that to be "service". I consider that to be GFE. There is zero GFE at Eden Club, but they will service the hell out of you.
Well now, I don't consider that to be "service". I consider that to be GFE. There is zero GFE at Eden Club, but they will service the hell out of you.As I said its a matter of taste. For me the best service is from a horny hooker.
As I said its a matter of taste. For me the best service is from a horny hooker.At least we have the topic changed away from national stereotypes.
I find myself agreeing with BOTH Turgid and Smoothy. I like horny hookers and the occasional Eden Club experience. .
TTG.
Hi guys,
I am planning to visit Jakarta on 27th of Aug, kindly Suggest me some erotic Massage parlours.
Robert Long
08-03-15, 18:21
At least we have the topic changed away from national stereotypes.
I find myself agreeing with BOTH Turgid and Smoothy. I like horny hookers and the occasional Eden Club experience. .
TTG.Horny Hooker, isn't that an Oxymoron? Kind of like Military Intelligence? Or Jumbo Shrimp?
RL.
Member #4410
08-03-15, 22:01
Horny Hooker, isn't that an Oxymoron? Kind of like Military Intelligence? Or Jumbo Shrimp?
RL.Not quite. I have met some that quite enjoyed the job. In the Netherlands I knew a Thai woman named Patty who worked in the Zandpad area in Utrecht. She was a hot little number who thoroughly enjoyed having sex. In Jakarta there was (is, actually) Novi kecil in Maribaya and I suspect Shella also was not averse to sex.
The horniest are the African and Aboriginese girls. Mick Jagger sings about it in the Rolling Stones song called Some Girls.
Mighty Spearsman
08-04-15, 05:45
Hi guys,
I am planning to visit Jakarta on 27th of Aug, kindly Suggest me some erotic Massage parlours.RTFF! and you'll quickly learn the names of many of the good MPs.
Try Kartika, located down an alley just south of the intersection of Jalan Mangga Besar and Jalan Hayam Wuruk. There are two other decent MPs in the same alley (Berlian and Royal Mas), but Kartika is my choice for the body-to-body nuru-type massage. The girls may not be the best-looking but the massage experience makes up for it. I've attached a street map and shot of the alley where Kartika is located.
Some upper end hotels that have MPs include Malioboro and Alexis, somewhat lower are Hotel Travel and Hotel Classic. Towards the southern part of town is where you'll find D's Place (bar) and Maribaya Spa, on the 6th floor of Hotel Melawai.
All of the above places, and many more, have been written about extensively here on ISG. Now start reading!
RTFF! and you'll quickly learn the names of many of the good MPs.
Try Kartika, located down an alley just south of the intersection of Jalan Mangga Besar and Jalan Hayam Wuruk. There are two other decent MPs in the same alley (Berlian and Royal Mas), but Kartika is my choice for the body-to-body nuru-type massage. The girls may not be the best-looking but the massage experience makes up for it. I've attached a street map and shot of the alley where Kartika is located.
Some upper end hotels that have MPs include Malioboro and Alexis, somewhat lower are Hotel Travel and Hotel Classic. Towards the southern part of town is where you'll find D's Place (bar) and Maribaya Spa, on the 6th floor of Hotel Melawai.
All of the above places, and many more, have been written about extensively here on ISG. Now start reading!Thanks a lot bro.
How about Orchardz industri?
Robert Long
08-04-15, 17:47
The horniest are the African and Aboriginese girls. Mick Jagger sings about it in the Rolling Stones song called Some Girls.Their all yours my friend. I'll stick to beauty an health.
RL.
Seshadri, I think MS has provided a great response. With a wide variation to do research on.
You might get more responses to your questions if;.
1. you have more than 5 posts.
2. you are a senior member.
3. you narrow down your request. Location, price range, service required, time of day.
4. you NEED to do some RTFF and ask specific questions, seriously a question like "Suggest me some erotic Massage parlours", wastes everyones time. Make it specific like "I have researched Orchardz Hotel and am interested in the butterfly massage. Can anyone give a review on this experience and how long will it take to get to Orchardz Hotel from Grand Indonesia".
Show some respect to senior members who put in alot of effort to their information, reviews and photos- and you will get it back.
Thanks a lot bro.
How about Orchardz industri?
Took a domestic flight to Jakarta recently, just a quick trip and had already lined up my 'companionship' for the night. Sitting on the plane about to take off, fiddling with my phone and I look up and see this gorgeous young thing walking down the aisle towards me. Dressed immaculately and stunningly, one of those girls that every single guy on the plane stopped and looked at. Once I peeled my eyes away from her tits, I meet her eyes and she was looking daggers at me looking at her tits.
Then she stops next to me and indicates that she is in the window seat, and I am in the aisle. Of course I hopped to my feet and looked down her shirt while she moved into her seat. Praise the higher powers in the universe that nobody came to sit between us. However this girl was not giving off any positive signs at all. Did everything she could to avoid eye contact, buried her face intently in her phone or in flight magazine, whatever she could find to ignore me. Fuck it, I thought, I already have a girl waiting for me when I get off the plane, don't waste your time on this girl, she probably just finished a short term girl friend contract and she has spent the last few days getting pumped full of cum by some horny guy in the provinces.
Well eventually bordom, or hubris, or my dick (let's be real) took over and I concocted some corny line to break the ice, even broke out a little bahasa. Well fuck me, she was totally into me from that moment on. Walked with her off the plane to the baggage area, got her name card as she has a real job, got her private phone number and she was hinting that she would love to have a drink with me that evening. Sadly I had some business colleagues to meet that evening (!!) so I took a rain check.
I think the prearranged girl waiting at my hotel wondered what was going on when as soon as we got in the room I rammed my cock down her throat and leaned back and closed my eyes.
Then she stops next to me and indicates that she is in the window seat, and I am in the aisle. Praise the higher powers in the universe that nobody came to sit between us. How lucky. Of the hundreds of flights I have taken over the years, that has not happened to me even once.
How lucky. Of the hundreds of flights I have taken over the years, that has not happened to me even once.What, getting an empty middle seat? :)
I have had girls make overzealous eye contact on planes before, but striking up conversation with a hottie and having it so well received, is probably a first for me too. The cynic in me still thinks she is in the game.
I have had girls make overzealous eye contact on planes before.I have had that in Indonesia as well, but I have never been lucky enough to have one of them sit in my same row. Not once. However, the flight crew is usually fairly easily approachable. It's not difficult to get their numbers if you catch them after the flight.
I have had that in Indonesia as well, but I have never been lucky enough to have one of them sit in my same row. Not once. However, the flight crew is usually fairly easily approachable. It's not difficult to get their numbers if you catch them after the flight.I have often wondered about them. A couple of times I have gone to the back of the plane to make idle chit chat with them, but never got the one I wanted alone, and was afraid I might get her in trouble if I asked for her number in front of other people she works with.
Once the plane lands I am out of there as fast as I can as I usually have something lined up and waiting for me. Never thought to hang around and try to catch the flight crew walking through the airport.
After a bad experience there many years ago, I went back a few months ago and reported here that I had a great experience with two of the girls there. I mentioned it would now be on my rotation.
Well, last night I arrived with a friend at around 10:40 pm. There were perhaps eight or nine girls there trying to get me to select them, a crew that seemed significantly less attractive than the day shift I am familiar with. I nonetheless picked one, paid my 600,000 rupiah at the desk, and entered the room at 10:45 pm. (I noted the time when the girl looked at her watch while we were at the desk, so I looked at mine as well). The girl showed me the session room, left for a few minutes and then came back and the session started.
Went one round with the expectation of a second as is customary at Maribaya (in other words I didn't extend the first round as much as I normally do at one-shot places), washed up, got a short and rushed massage, and then at 11:17 was informed an hour was up (she pointed at her watch while saying this). I got a bit irritated and said we hadn't been there for close to an hour. So, the massage continued for a few minutes, and then at 11:25 the girl said someone was telling her time was up, and that was the end. In other words after 40 minutes or less the session was over.
I proceeded to leave, did not tip (I almost always do) and had my friend who speaks fluent Indonesian tell the guy who took my money that I had been short-changed on time. His response was the place closes at 11 pm so I couldn't get an hour session. I told him (of course with no expectation of getting any money back) that if they charge 600,000 rupiah for an hour, and only let me have 40 minutes without telling me this in advance (actually the last few were pretty worthless given I was not happy about the girl trying to end the session after about 30 minutes) they should refund 200,000 rupiah. I got back a silly smile along with the ole wai (sorry about the Thai terminology, is it "sembah" in Indonesia?) as though that somehow compensated me.
I now know the place closes at 11 pm; I didn't know that before. Shouldn't I have been informed of this when I at 10:45 pm I picked one of their eight or nine girls vying for my attention? Had they informed me they were going to try to end my session after 30 minutes, I never would have agreed to pay them the 600,000 rupiah, but would have rather headed to Blok M. Am I being unreasonable?
a crew that seemed significantly less attractive than the day shift I am familiar with. For whatever reason, the day shift has been drastically better than the night shift for at least the last 10 years at Maribaya. Back in the late 90's and early 2000's, the night shift was rockin', but I can't think of a really good girl on the night shift since around 2003.
I've never heard of the place closing at 11 pm though. That's good to know. In the past, I have taken girls after 11 pm many times and gotten my full hour at Maribaya. But that was when they were open until midnight. Then again, I haven't taken a night shift girl in at least 5 years.
I've had a couple of bad experiences at Maribaya over the years, but not many. I wouldn't recommend the night shift these days though simply due to lack of talent. Day shift is good. It's the only place I know of where you can shag at 10 am.
Member #4410
08-10-15, 01:19
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I've never heard of the place closing at 11 pm though. That's good to know. In the past, I have taken girls after 11 pm many times and gotten my full hour at Maribaya. But that was when they were open until midnight. Then again, I haven't taken a night shift girl in at least 5 years.
I've had a couple of bad experiences at Maribaya over the years, but not many. I wouldn't recommend the night shift these days though simply due to lack of talent. Day shift is good. It's the only place I know of where you can shag at 10 am.
I always understood Maribaya had two shifts; 11 am until 5 pm and 5 pm until 11 pm, with a bit of overlap if a girl was still busy with a client. I never knew you could already go there at 10 am. Might be good news on some days when the mood hits you. As far as I know (but I may be mis-informed) 11 pm was always closing time. I can recall only one occasion of taking a night shift girl and it wasn't very memorable. As you say: day shift is way better.
I never knew you could already go there at 10 am. Depends on whether the girl arrives that early or not. Not all of them do. I only did it once and it was with Sari long ago. I made sure she was going to be there that early because I had a flight to catch that afternoon. But others have told me they arrive at 10 am. Even 11 am is earlier than any other place in town. I used to like to go to Maribaya during lunch when I was working not to far away. So, I'd normally arrive there around 11:45am for the lunch time shag. I don't know any other place open that early to be able to pull that off.
I used to like to go to Maribaya during lunch when I was working not to far away. So, I'd normally arrive there around 11:45am for the lunch time shag. Oh man, that really hurts. I used to do the same thing. Color me missing Indonesia. TTG.
Once again I have returned to Jakarta for a bit of 'R&R', not so fortunate as some of you who have female companions waiting for you, I need to find
my company myself usually in Blok M.
I am a frequent visitor to Blok M so some of the girls are familiar with me, however on this trip I did mange to meet a few new girls whom I have not seen.
Before (since my last trip). But as usual it's a turn off when they start asking for 1 M, I really don't haggle with them, I know some of you do but I.
Don't. If they ask 1 M, my feeling is that they are really not interested in me so the service will be very routine.
Anyway, did meet a few girls who accepted. 5 M and they were fine, good service and not rushed, some were not that good though but as with
everything you buy, packaging is not always a true picture.
But on this trip I decided to try something I haven't done before and that the 2 girls session. Around the Novotel hotel in GM there are a few.
Managers around. Being cautious about bringing 2 guests back to my room I decided to let the manager do this for me.
I lined up with one of them to bring the guests directly to my room so that I won't have to go through the WOS. She appeared with 3 of them, 1 about a 6/10, one 7/10.
And one 9/10 (very hot). So I chose the two best ones of the group, although I was getting an uneasy vibe from the hottie I still decide to choose her.
Well after the manager left, all the smiles disappeared, they starting talking amongst themselves and although I don't know Bahasa I could tell they were not happy to
be there. And was I ever correct, never had such poor service in all my stays in BKK and Jakarta. They quickly established their rules, "no touching" and if I can't touch
there is not much one can do.
They kept constantly chatting to each other and not even interested in what they were supposed to do. Overall it was a very bad bad experience. And when they
were ready to leave they had the nerve to ask for a tip.
I said to them, BAD service, BAD attitude, BAD performance, NO TIP GET OUT. They weren't too happy but neither was I so it's even.
Can't believe how some of you guys are so lucky to get good service when you have 2 or more guests. I definitely didn't. There must be a method in finding
the right pair for this purpose.
Maybe before I return next time I can figure it out.
Can't believe how some of you guys are so lucky to get good service when you have 2 or more guests. I definitely didn't. There must be a method in finding
the right pair for this purpose.Maribaya and Kartika are the only 2 places I would recommend taking 2 girls. When taking 2 in Jakarta at other places, the service normally drops drastically compared to the service you get from just the one girl in the room.
The soapy sandwich at Kartika is something I'd suggest anyone try at least once. It's a unique experience.
Hi,
I am will be visiting Indonesia in 2 weeks time for the very first time. I am meeting a 32 years old married woman who I know from internet, she has very wild fantasies and would like to try threesome. So we are looking for someone between 30 to 45 man who would want to join us in Padang.
Thanks
I did ask earlier for information on Alexis / Malioboro etc and which one was best but someone said RTFF. Well I do read however what I was looking for is something as below. Hope this helps for ones travelling to Jakarta.
Night Life. Very good but getting expensive.
Decide on what you want. Drink and watch the girls dancing / Massage with extras / FS with good expensive girls / Monger around in clubs and pick up free lancers.
If you are looking for clubs where girls dance / looking at local girls exposing try any of the clubs listed which you pull out in 10 best night clubs in google.
However every club has different pricing and quality.
Alexis Spa. Plenty to choose from. You can choose a girl take her to the Jacuzzi and then FS (Maybe 60 minutes) Pricing depends on local / Vietnamese / others. No strip club on this floor. Note this closes at 2:00 pm. So better to go early if you want to have a FS.
If you avail the services of the girl you can get free entry to the club below (1st floor). Club open till 4:00 or 5:00 am.
Malioboro Spa. Plenty of options. Has the club and the girls on the same floor. So you could watch the girls dancing while the mamasan parades the girls for you to choose from. If not interested you can just drink a couple of drinks and watch the dance.
Tease Club. Emporivm- Girls performing the dance does the FS too. Rates vary.
Went to be Fashion hotel. Spa on the 9th floor / club on the 2nd floor.
Orchadz spa. Went for a massage day time. Offers variety of services.
Freelancers BATS / CJ's. Well they are easy pick ups so you don't need to be a stunner.
Night life starts around 9:00 pm. Cost you anything around (50 to 300 USD).
Some have 99% locals so learning Bahasa before visiting Indonesia definitely helps.
All the best Mongers and have a good time. Jakarta has plenty to offer if you are ready to venture out.
I did ask earlier for information on Alexis / Malioboro etc and which one was best but someone said RTFF. Well I do read however what I was looking for is something as below. Hope this helps for ones travelling to Jakarta.
Night Life. Very good but getting expensive.
Decide on what you want. Drink and watch the girls dancing / Massage with extras / FS with good expensive girls / Monger around in clubs and pick up free lancers.
If you are looking for clubs where girls dance / looking at local girls exposing try any of the clubs listed which you pull out in 10 best night clubs in google.
However every club has different pricing and quality.
Alexis Spa. Plenty to choose from. You can choose a girl take her to the Jacuzzi and then FS (Maybe 60 minutes) Pricing depends on local / Vietnamese / others. No strip club on this floor. Note this closes at 2:00 pm. So better to go early if you want to have a FS.
If you avail the services of the girl you can get free entry to the club below (1st floor). Club open till 4:00 or 5:00 am.
That should read 2 AM and not PM.
Malioboro Spa. Plenty of options. Has the club and the girls on the same floor. So you could watch the girls dancing while the mamasan parades the girls for you to choose from. If not interested you can just drink a couple of drinks and watch the dance.
Although the club has some girls, the majority are actually on the 1st floor (or 2nd depending on how you count) on the other side of the building. (The first entrance leads to basically the brothel, the 2nd entrance which is located when you walk 100 meter passed the 1st entrance leads to the club).
You can reach the brothel from the club and visa versa through the 3rd floor, and you would probably be able to get a known mamasan to bring some to you while you're in the club, but the selection is limited in the club and I wouldn't count on the mamasans taste.
Orchadz spa. Went for a massage day time. Offers variety of services.I regularly went to the one at the airport. I usually paid 100 k for HJ, 200 k for BJ and 300 k for FS. Services depend a lot on the girl which you cannot choose in advance, you should pick a number of a board and the GRO will give a short description only. Change is possible but a little embarrassing.
Night life starts around 9:00 pm. Cost you anything around (50 to 300 USD).
Some have 99% locals so learning Bahasa before visiting Indonesia definitely helps.
All the best Mongers and have a good time. Jakarta has plenty to offer if you are ready to venture out.Pre-dinner / lounge drinks start at 9, but if you want to go clubbing it really only starts going after 12. Prices depends a lot on the person, you might get by with 50 USD for a night but it's not going to bring you far. I would certainly not cap it at 300 USD. In Jakarta, and if you hang in certain Indonesian circles, the sky is the limit. I've experienced the most absurd and crazy nights of my life in Jakarta, this is a city where money can literally buy you anything.
Knowledge of Bahasa Indonesia is definitely a plus and when you reach a sufficient level this will open up a whole new world of freelancers that are rarely discussed on this forum.
After much toing and froing I've finally decided to make my first trip to Jakarta. This city is not for the faint of heart but after making several visits to Kolkata I shouldn't have much problems navigating this metropolis. It is certainly not a walking friendly city; in my travels I like to trek to various destinations on foot for exercise but I won't be doing that here and will depend on my hotel's gym for workouts. In terms of food I suspect I'm going to have some problems here; although I like to sample the local fare I depend heavily on my staples viz steak / ribs, potatoes, beans, mushrooms etc. I have long jettisoned fast foods like hamburgers and chicken and fries, I avoid these foods and these are ubiquitous in Jakarta but good ribs and steak are nowhere to be seen.
Well now for the main course; my decision was between Malioboro and the Classic hotel. After some contemplation I decided on the Classic and took a 'taksi' there, arriving at 8. 30 pm. As I enter the lobby I am greeted by loud music, I don't know how anyone can sleep in this hotel; perhaps the rooms are sound-proofed. I headed for the fifth floor which is where my research on this board says I should start. Took two escalators up then elevator to the fifth. I am given a wristband against the number on which all drinks are entered. As I enter there is a group of girls, about thirty in all seated to the left and there is a band playing to their left. There are no more than about ten punters seated at tables throughout the establishment; there are numerous empty tables and chairs. I take a seat and a mamasan immediately comes up to me and shows me her girls who are in red uniforms and tries to encourage me to choose one.
Now I am not sure whether punters who have visited this establishment are aware that on the other side of the band there is another group of girls; I think it is easy to overlook this group if you sit close to the first group. I told the mamasan that I want to look at all the girls before choosing. I then get my drink and with it in hand I walk to the other group and survey them. A mamasan comes up to me and shows me her girls and laser points one who she says speaks English and is good for me; the girl comes up, I shake her hand and tell mamasan I am still undecided. The mamasan laser points others who come down and this continues with other mamasans and their girls in this group and the other. The girls are mostly 5's, 6's and one or two 7's but I find it very difficult to choose.
I find the attitude of the girls much different from Thai girls. In the soapies some of the Thai girls as long as they can see you will smile at you and try to get your attention. But these girls just sit there looking quite bored. However, when they are called to be introduced they are quite pleasant and smile when they shake your hand. So the idea of only choosing a girl who smiles at you is not applicable here in my opinion. I eventually make my choice not out of having found what I was looking for but more because I did not want to spend more than half an hour looking. I pay the R350,000. The mamasan and girl disappear for five minutes then the girl returns and escorts me to the room. The service girls come and ask if I want a drink, I don't but my girl does and she is brought a soft drink in a can.
The worst part of the evening for me occurred at this point where the girl asks for a tip WTF. We have not undressed yet and she asks for a tip. A huge turnoff for me. Worse than an upsell. I tell her that if she is good she will get a tip after. She does not speak English but she certainly understood my tone and body language. We undress and she washes me in the shower. I dry off go to the bed and await her arrival. She comes onto the bed and I try to kiss her but she shows that she does not want me to although not in an abrupt way. I then allow her to do her thing which was to kiss various parts of my body followed by a CBJ. Her body language showed that she did not like me sucking on her breasts but her attitude in so doing was not obnoxious.
Having eventually secured my erection she mounts me in cowgirl and seems to enjoy it. I then flip her and session in mish for a while which she enjoys even more. We then switch to doggy which I enjoy more but she appears to enjoy less, I then go at it for perhaps more than twenty minutes at which point completion occurs. A few seconds later the buzzer sounds which indicates time up. She heads to the shower and when she's through I do my ablutions. I get dressed while she sits and looks with an air of anticipation. I give her R100,000 and she asks for another R100,000 which I decline. She says thank you and we depart. When I enter the club area the place is almost full, it is now 10.00 pm, I pay my tab and depart.
I would actually rate my selection at about a 5, undressed in the light of the room she looked a lot less appetizing than seated among her colleagues. However, apart from my Thai non-pro in Bangkok (a first for Turgid in many years (I. E. A non-pro)) she had the biggest ass I've had in over two months. The total amount paid for the evening was very reasonable. I will return for there were better looking girls than my choice. However, Malioboro and other clubs await my arrival. By the way you cannot depend on the mamasans here, the mamasan told me the girl spoke English which she clearly did not. Apart from that though I find the mamasans not as obnoxious as described by other punters. I actually find them quite pleasant.
Member #4698
08-18-15, 19:27
Turgid, Go to Malioboro! The dancers are better than most BKK soapy girls. And more expensive. LOL. Also check out CJ's. A lot of quality FL's on Wednesday. Ladies night. Have a great trip.
By the way you cannot depend on the mamasans here, the mamasan told me the girl spoke English which she clearly did not. I don't think any of the girls at Classic speak English. If they spoke English, they wouldn't be working at such a cheap place.
Sounds like a typical Classic experience though. That's a good description of a visit there.
Traveler1234
08-18-15, 20:48
Also check out CJ's. A lot of quality FL's on Wednesday. Ladies night.My vote is for Bats at the Shangrila. ;)
Thanks for the advice Natty and Smoothy. I certainly intend to visit the much touted Malioboro and have psyched myself for the expense, will also give Bats a hit. I did spend 5000 Baht for a Nataree girl, I think that is a little less than 2 M Rupiah which will be my limit for expenditure in any one visit to an establishment in Jakarta and will be done very sparingly.
Oh, and thanks Traveller1234 for your advice.
Initial comparisons between Bangkok and Jakarta.
I have been here for just three days but consider myself capable of making a comparison between the two abovementioned destinations in certain respects.
As has been extolled considerably Bangkok is the more visitor friendly city on which I would say no more.
Women: This can be subjective but there are aspects that can be expressed objectively. In terms of looks my subjective view is Bangkok over Jakarta. In arriving at this conclusion I have not allowed the attire to affect my decision. In terms of girl watching Bangkok is leaps and bounds ahead of Jakarta. In Bangkok you will see tons of chicks in shorts and skimpy clothes showing off their beautiful legs and other assets. I don't think I have seen one woman in shorts here in Jakarta. The majority of women appear to be muslim and are fully attired from head to toe, others are out and about either in jeans or long dresses. However, the derrieres of the Indonesians are far superior to that of the Thai women which can be gleaned even in the demure garbs. This is most pleasing to me as it is a part of the female anatomy that is very important to me and my hobby. Also, the more beautiful Indos I see around are extremely stunning; however, for numbers of beautiful women I would rate the Thais over the Indos.
Friendliness: The friendliness of the Indonesians have been much touted on this board with some mongers even dreading an invasion of westerners who may spoil them. I do not hold such an opinion. They are friendly yes but only where it matters such as in the hotel, malls or other establishments where they would like to get your money. That being said I think it is easier to date an Indonesian non-pro than a Thai non-pro. Therefore, I would add in terms of where it matters the possibility of gaining a western BF / husband. I get more favorable vibes from girls I encounter here (non-muslims of course) than in Bangkok. However, In terms of overall friendliness I would rate Jakarta and Bangkok as equal.
I am indeed happy to be here and will make further comparisons between the two destinations as time goes by especially in the area of quality and performance of the providers.
The Red Baron
08-19-15, 11:50
First time in Jakarta. I've been reading the forums and haven't been able to find some information.
I prefer taking girls back to my hotel room as I don't like short time / massage rooms.
If I stay at the Sparks, is it possible to order one of their massage girls up to my room?
Also, is it possible to take Travel girls back to my hotel?
Thanks guys!
Traveler1234
08-19-15, 14:14
I prefer taking girls back to my hotel room as I don't like short time / massage rooms.
Blok M, Bats, CJ for FL to take home.
Taking home from Classic, Travel, Maliboro, Alexis is ridiculously expensive and seldom done.
I get more favorable vibes from girls I encounter here (non-muslims of course) than in Bangkok.I don't quite understand this statement. Ninety percent of the population is Muslim, and in my experience the Muslim girls are, if anything, the friendliest as compared to Christians, etc. Perhaps you are somehow assuming that the only Muslim females are those dressed in Muslim garb?
In terms of food I suspect I'm going to have some problems here; although I like to sample the local fare I depend heavily on my staples viz steak / ribs, potatoes, beans, mushrooms etc. I have long jettisoned fast foods like hamburgers and chicken and fries, I avoid these foods and these are ubiquitous in Jakarta but good ribs and steak are nowhere to be seen.
Depending on one's budget there are in Jakarta plenty of good places for steak or ribs, particularly in the five-star hotels. See's in the Grand Hyatt is one such place, but there are many others. And although more expensive than the average meal in Jakarta, the prices are not so bad.
Depending on one's budget there are in Jakarta plenty of good places for steak or ribs, particularly in the five-star hotels. See's in the Grand Hyatt is one such place, but there are many others. And although more expensive than the average meal in Jakarta, the prices are not so bad.Having eaten at those steak restaurants in Jakarta for many years, I thought they were fine. Then I come back to the US and went to a place like Ruth's Chris and realized that every steak dinner I ever had in Jakarta was crap.
That being said, the steaks at BATS are about as good as you will find in Jakarta. You can have a nice meal there then wait for the girls to come down the stairs.
Park Lane hotel at Stix restaurant used to have a 50% off steak night every Sunday. I'm not sure if they still have it.
Member #4698
08-19-15, 19:29
My vote is for Bats at the Shangrila. ;)T, I am still in the discovery phase as regards Jakarta. There are still plenty of places I want to check out, but I am in no hurry. So far, I have taken two very nice girls out of Bats and CJ's respectively, but the last 2 times I went to CJ's on a Wednesday and a Thursday night CJ's swamped the best night I ever saw in Bats both in sheer numbers and in quality of girls. I still like Bats, but CJ's on a Wednesday night is amazing. I can't think of a better / hotter 5 star hotel FL pickup bar anywhere in Asia. Brix at the Hyatt in Singapore has equal or higher quality at an even more outrageous price, but Brix is a much smaller bar with probably a third of the girls and Spasso at the Hyatt in BKK is a joke compared to CJ's. So I am a big CJ's fan.
The 2nd to last night I was in Jakarta, I met a very attractive part time FL girl at CJ's. I liked her so much that I took her and her best girl friend out to dinner the next night. The girl friend was an amateur who worked in the medical profession. She took pride in ownership, driving us around Jakarta in her new red Honda. I paid for dinner and then drinks later at CJ's where the three of us spent the night dancing. Around 3 am the friend drove us back to my hotel. I filled her tank up with gas. My girl and I spent the rest of the night shagging bareback and cuddling. Around 8 am she had to leave for work. I took her down to the lobby to get a taxi and then I went back upstairs to get some sleep. We have stayed in Line contact and I am looking forward to seeing her again when I return to Jakarta. I am in love. LOL.
Traveler1234
08-19-15, 20:23
T, I am still in the discovery phase as regards Jakarta. I am in love. LOL.Hehe. I'm in semi-retirement mode, early to bed, early to rise. I usually stay at Shangrila so Bats is easy in / out for early dinner, early 2-3 hr shag and then sleep. These days, I usually even lazier and just call from my rolodex, eat and screw at the same time in my room.
Enjoy your upcoming trip, especially to LOS. With the recent bombing, things will be quiet and not as crowded.
I don't quite understand this statement. Ninety percent of the population is Muslim, and in my experience the Muslim girls are, if anything, the friendliest as compared to Christians, etc. Perhaps you are somehow assuming that the only Muslim females are those dressed in Muslim garb?I've mongered in Istanbul, and other places where the population was a mostly Muslim, Its been my experience they are giving pussy out both the front and back of the Burka, Just need the right amount of social skills to make it happen. The indo girls in my opinion are the warmest in all of SEA. I spent most of my time in Jakarta, but all of Java is ripe for the picking.
I don't quite understand this statement. Ninety percent of the population is Muslim, and in my experience the Muslim girls are, if anything, the friendliest as compared to Christians, etc. Perhaps you are somehow assuming that the only Muslim females are those dressed in Muslim garb?Actually, I should have said "except those dressed in muslim garb".
Having eaten at those steak restaurants in Jakarta for many years, I thought they were fine. Then I come back to the US and went to a place like Ruth's Chris and realized that every steak dinner I ever had in Jakarta was crap.
That being said, the steaks at BATS are about as good as you will find in Jakarta. You can have a nice meal there then wait for the girls to come down the stairs.
Park Lane hotel at Stix restaurant used to have a 50% off steak night every Sunday. I'm not sure if they still have it.I've had great steak in Bangkok. Must check out BATS.
Actually, I should have said "except those dressed in muslim garb".Don't let the jilbab fool you, for sheer uninhibited fun it's hard to beat a hijaber when she lets go.
I know of which I speak.
Sounds like a typical Classic experience though. That's a good description of a visit there.Isn't it just?
I gave up on Classic a long time ago. I had enjoyed a long and fun-filled afternoon and having a few hours to spare decided to give Classic a last chance.
I got a good-looking girl brought to my table, tall and slim with a nice rack, after a while the conversation was a bit leaden but I kept it going as I couldn't be bothered making the change and because I liked the look of her body.
In the room the usual story, perfunctory BJ (at least it was uncovered) and then straight into missionary, I did that for a while and then indicated she should flip herself over as a nice bit of doggy-style would finish the evening the way I wanted it. She flat out refused, with a sullen, contemptuous even, "gak mau, ah!" and indicating that she wasn't prepared to discuss the matter further. Just to be clear here I wasn't seeking some foul perversion, I wasn't asking her to open her mouth so I could take a dump or something, I was requesting a standard sexual position that used to be the default session in brothels in my youth.
I did what I never did before, I whipped off the johnnie, threw it on the floor, showered and dressed and walked out of the room with neither a fond farewell nor a tip, leaving her alone to enjoy her walk of shame past the cleaning staff.
I wonder is it just bules who get this terrible service because we are regarded as soft touches. I somehow can't imagine a local punter, Chinese or otherwise, putting up wth that after handing over his hard-earned.
Whats a rolodex?
Is that some kind of smartphone :))
Hehe. I'm in semi-retirement mode, early to bed, early to rise. I usually stay at Shangrila so Bats is easy in / out for early dinner, early 2-3 hr shag and then sleep. These days, I usually even lazier and just call from my rolodex, eat and screw at the same time in my room.
Monsieur1875
08-20-15, 10:37
Whats a rolodex?
Is that some kind of smartphone :))It's actually the low tech version of the contact list of your smartphone.
First time in Jakarta. I've been reading the forums and haven't been able to find some information.
I prefer taking girls back to my hotel room as I don't like short time / massage rooms.
If I stay at the Sparks, is it possible to order one of their massage girls up to my room?
Also, is it possible to take Travel girls back to my hotel?
Thanks guys!My opinion, if you want girls to take back, for overnight or less, then as everyone else mentions CJs, BATS or BlokM is the go.
I would also mention MO's bar on a Tues night (its good on a Tues. Night, horrendous all other nights) , CJs is the best of the best and rocks on a Wed as mentioned already, I love BATS on a Sunday when everything else is quiet and its rockin, and BlokM always good Thu / Fri / Sat.
BUT as they don't really get happening until 11 pm, IF this was me. I'd try my luck elsewhere first for some variety with the plan of always ending up in those above. I don't know your age, budget or interest. For me I like variety for FL's and its great seeing them in their natural habitat.
I would:
- try bars on jalan jaksa, if you like open air bars with cold beer, t-shirt and shorts kinda places.
- try locals bars if you really feel like a low level challenge, dangut bars on Blora or Wahid Hasyim or Arab bars in Cikini.
- try expat sports bars where local girls are looking for a long or short term date, like Eastern Promise on Friday night at the back band area, Aphrodite, Jaya Pub on Fri nights.
- try higher class bars like Loewy, single girls are at the bar. Use your spidey-sense and wear your best Calvins.
These are all options if you want a bit of variety before hitting CJ's etc.
Again. Disclaimer some of these places are low level, boring at times or maybe not even productive for FLs at times, SO don't use them as your only source.
The Red Baron
08-20-15, 12:31
My opinionThanks guys. This is gold!
Traveler1234
08-20-15, 14:45
Whats a rolodex?
Is that some kind of smartphone :))I did say in semi-retirement mode, so you can guess my age. My first visit was back in 1982!
;)
Went to Malioboro. Got my bracelet at reception on the ground floor and went straight to where the action is on the second floor. When I entered it actually was not exactly as I expected. I was anticipating raucous action with naked or half naked ladies gyrating on stage and on gent's laps but that was not so. Instead I found the place very civilized with a few girls in bikinis dancing delicately on stage and punters sitting at tables chatting with ladies who almost appeared like guests. Make no bones about it though there were many ladies of the night who were absolutely gorgeous. Persons who have described the girls here as amazing are not exaggerating by any means.
The place is absolutely incredible. I was like a kid in a candy store reminiscent of my first sight of Flower Street in a Chang Ping KTV. This place beats any Bangkok soapie hands down for beautiful women. I was immediately approached by a mamasan who escorted me to a seat and called a waiter who took my drinks order. While seated another mamasan joined us which I found a bit odd but it seems as though there is good comraderie here. They both showed me their girls but I wasn't going to choose until I saw all the girls in the place. What I really wanted to do was walk around to get a better view of the ladies. One mamasan left but the other just sat with me trying to make conversation with her very limited English.
It appeared that she was not going to leave and I had no intention of being rude so I asked her to take me to her girls which she did. She said her girls were from 850,000 rupiah to 2,000,000 rupiah for some of her foreign girls (Viets, Chinese, Colombian and Russian). She introduced me to some who were very enticing indeed and I made a mental note of the number of one of the girls (Indonesian) who was tall with ass ets that I crave. I told the mamasan that when I am ready I would choose that one and I walked around the place with her in tow until she decided to leave me to my own devices. I was not overly impressed by the foreign girls, however, one Russian did look like a model and she appeared to really fancy herself.
I may have looked a bit odd as I walked to each group of girls checking them out, until I spied the absolutely most gorgeous beauty seated among others looking extremely bored. I had to have her. I anticipated a very poor performance just from her demeanor and level of hotness but was not going to let that deter me. Also many punters had passed her way but no one chose her which I found quite odd. I asked a waiter to locate the mamasan for her group and a few seconds later she came to me and I showed her my choice and I pointed at her directly, she asked me if I wanted the girl seated next to her but I maintained my focus. She called the girl who came up absolutely unenthusiastically, they did what was to be done and I was being escorted to the room by her.
I tried to make small talk but her English was very limited; however, I did try my best to make her laugh with very little success. She was not tall, about 5' 3". She undressed to reveal the absolutely most flawless body and her face was exquisite, attractive yet sexy and alluring; I had indeed made a very good physical choice. We washed and then proceeded to the bed.
I asked her to lay down then proceeded to kiss her face, she did allow me to kiss her lips a little but only with her lips tightly sealed. I then proceeded to her breasts and the rest of her body. She absolutely would not allow DATY. So far I have been refused DATY in Indonesia; do they allow it? She capped me, blew me and we then proceeded to coitus. I am getting turned on now just thinking of it. For shame, Turgid, for shame, it was all over in less than ten minutes, actually. I just could not call back the soldiers. All the girls I have previously banged since coming to Thailand in June I have done so for no less than forty five minutes. Its not the first time that this has happened to me, I remember a session with probably the most beautiful girl I have ever had relations with, a Chinese in Geylang in Singapore it was completed in even less time. What a pity this place is only a one pop shop.
One good thing about this encounter is that she readily gave me her phone number when asked. I certainly intend to contact her although I don't know how that would work out as she knows very little English. What I do know is that I will be sessioning with her again in spite of her nonchalent behavior and all the eye candy at Malioboro. Who knows after another session or two she may warm up to me. As you guys realize by now I have a weakness for stunning women. When she asked for a tip I could not refuse considering my plans. BATS and other establishments will have to wait.
...then indicated she should flip herself over as a nice bit of doggy-style would finish the evening the way I wanted it. She flat out refused, with a sullen, contemptuous even, "gak mau, ah!" and indicating that she wasn't prepared to discuss the matter further.... The girl I went with at Classic actually refused me doggy when I asked her, I insisted and she still refused and there was an impasse for a while but she eventually relented. Is this normal at Classic? If so I would not be returning even with the favorable rate.
For shame, Turgid, for shame, it was all over in less than ten minutes, actually. I just could not call back the soldiers. All the girls I have previously banged since coming to Thailand in June I have done so for no less than forty five minutes. 10 minutes is long enough. Once I'm inside them, I'm normally done in less than 2 minutes. If you had lasted 45 minutes, the girl would likely not have given you her phone number.
Member #4698
08-20-15, 21:30
Went to Malioboro. Persons who have described the girls here as amazing are not exaggerating by any means.The place is absolutely incredible. I was like a kid in a candy store reminiscent of my first sight of Flower Street in a Chang Ping KTV. This place beats any Bangkok soapie hands down for beautiful women.
I asked her to lay down then proceeded to kiss her face, she did allow me to kiss her lips a little but only with her lips tightly sealed. I then proceeded to her breasts and the rest of her body. She absolutely would not allow DATY. So far I have been refused DATY in Indonesia; do they allow it? She capped me, blew me and we then proceeded to coitus. I am getting turned on now just thinking of it. For shame, Turgid, for shame, it was all over in less than ten minutes, actually. I just could not call back the soldiers. All the girls I have previously banged since coming to Thailand in June I have done so for no less than forty five minutes.
she readily gave me her phone number when asked. I certainly intend to contact her although I don't know how that would work out as she knows very little English. What I do know is that I will be sessioning with her again in spite of her nonchalent behavior and all the eye candy at Malioboro. Who knows after another session or two she may warm up to me. Turgid,
Maliboro is great. Its one of my favorite places. I may have missed it, but I don't recall the price for your girl. If she was a hot harem girl, she should have been 1200. The imports get 1500 and the dancers get 1000 (10 drinks) + 1200. I don't think I would have taken a girl with the dour, bored attitude you ascribe to your girl no matter how attractive unless the mamasan guaranteed me of great performance, especially since there are a lot of very attractive girls in Malioboro exhibiting really robust friendly attitudes. Your girl's rather mixed performance bears out those early warning signs, but I can understand how beauty sometimes offsets other rather banal behavior. I have selected only outgoing sexually friendly girls who shoved their nipples into my mouth within seconds of meeting me and I have never had a Malioboro dancer refuse DFK, DATY, or even need my asking for a BBBJ. In fact, I have barebacked a couple of those sexy dancers. So I will continue to go only with the girls that indicate they want to have a good time and skip the ones acting like the session will be a chore.
On your last point; all punters have experienced sensory overload on rare occasions with a really hot girl they liked and consequently have shot off sooner than they would have preferred. Its no big deal unless it happens all the time. The last time it happened to me was with a really hot Chinese girl at Rio Sauna in Macau a couple of years ago. I still remember that girl and the good times (plural) I had with her! She was so hot and she really turned me on. After we engaged in a prolonged 69, she impaled herself on my dick. I palmed her beautiful breasts and came in less than 5 minutes. I just couldn't control myself. LOL. My orgasm got away from me and was unstoppable. It felt good, but I couldn't help feeling inside that I had squandered a great moment and I couldn't wait to go back to Rio the next night and try the girl again.
We were both more familiar and relaxed with each other in the 2nd session. We got into another long time 69, then she mounted me and gave me Asian cowgirl for at least 15 minutes. When she began to tire, I picked her up, gently laid her on her back, and finished her off in mish. The phone rang indicating my time was up while we were still in each others arms. Obviously the 2nd session was more fulfilling than the 1st session and it restored my self image and footing with regards to the girl, but looking back and perhaps because of the 2nd session, I fondly remember losing control that 1st night with that truly hot girl. That loss of control does not happen to me very often. She was an amazing girl.
Am coming Jakarta for fun and girls. Need some help from experts.
1. Which place to stay to have best sex nearby.
2. I don't drink only sex what will be daily budget requirement in $$.
3. Is blok M and hotel classic nearby?
4. What to do during daytime as an there only for 3 days in Jakarta?
5. Best soapy massage near the hotel you suggest with charges?
6. Which places I should not miss for adult fun?
Please help me experts. Will plan accordingly.
Went to Malioboro. Got my bracelet at reception on the ground floor and went straight to where the action is on the second floor. When I entered it actually was not exactly as I expected. I was anticipating raucous action with naked or half naked ladies gyrating on stage and on gent's laps but that was not so. Instead I found the place very civilized with a few girls in bikinis dancing delicately on stage and punters sitting at tables chatting with ladies who almost appeared like guests. Make no bones about it though there were many ladies of the night who were absolutely gorgeous. Persons who have described the girls here as amazing are not exaggerating by any means.
That's because you went to the brothel area. If you go to the club area (2nd entrance just passed the first one, or reachable through the 2nd /3rd floor passing the rooms) you'll find the full naked girls dancing on stage, naked girls giving lap dances and occasionally blowjobs right in the club. (A BJ costs 20 shots, that equals 1 million IDR). They usually bring you upstairs to the curtained boots but I've seen (and had) it done right on the sofa's in the club as well. Don't try it on the standing tables though, that won't work.
Am coming Jakarta for fun and girls. Need some help from experts.
1. Which place to stay to have best sex nearby.
2. I don't drink only sex what will be daily budget requirement in $$.
3. Is blok M and hotel classic nearby?
4. What to do during daytime as an there only for 3 days in Jakarta?
5. Best soapy massage near the hotel you suggest with charges?
6. Which places I should not miss for adult fun?
Please help me experts. Will plan accordingly.1. Kota area for sure. Grand mecure or novotel is top of the list at $80-100 USD. Varies right down to the likes of the Hollywood hotel at $20 USD, and all in between. WHATS YOUR BUDGET?
2. $30 USD to $300 USD, what are you into? WHATS YOUR BUDGET?
3. Opposite ends of the city and an entirely different experience. 2 hrs++ in peak hour, 1 HR otherwise.
4. Goto a mall, watch a movie (cheap), buy a LT girl breakfast, goto a mall, buy some copy DVD's, get a massage, goto a mall.
5. Limited soapy options IMHO. RTFF on Kartika. But you could always try DELTA spa which now offers a 'wet massage' and it opens from midday I believe. I haven't been yet, but I am sure the forum would like a report.
6. What are you into? AND WHATS YOUR BUDGET, If it was me in order. ;.
A) Goto top floor Alexis bordello and grab a cabana, take a girl in her swimsuit into the openair rooftop pool, then later to a VIP room. If you can afford two girls then even better. $$.
B) Goto CJ's if its a Wed night for a hottie LT FL, $$ (backup options is BATS $$, or TopGun BlokM if your budget is a lower $).
C) Goto Malio club for the best (although not BKK standards) strip show in the city, don't go overboard with the LD's $$.
D) Goto a top nightclub. Depends on your age / looks and ability to pull on your own, this forum rarely talks about where the really beautiful classy women party (Empirica, Blowfish, Immigrant, X2) . OR goto a nightlcub in the large karaoke type places, so if you pull on the dancefloor or hookup with a bunch of locals (very likely if you smile and chat to them. You will often be invited to a table) like Golden Crown or Illegals, they have private rooms as well. Do RTFF on all these places.
Good luck and report back please.
The girl I went with at Classic actually refused me doggy when I asked her, I insisted and she still refused and there was an impasse for a while but she eventually relented. Is this normal at Classic? If so I would not be returning even with the favorable rate.There is a direct relationship between the higher the turnover of customers in a shift to the level of refusal and bad service.
Classic (2nd floor especially) is probably the busiest and largest number of hookers in the city in one-spot.
Some will even refuse to even go with you as a white guy.
I don't like it, but I understand. If you got to fuck 8-guys a night, better you choose the guys who don't make you walk funny afterwards (they believe we all have big schlongs).
Also. My other theory is? And this needs to be verified by others.
If I get bad service or refusal, then I often feel compelled to give a damn good banging to the girl.
If she is friendly and trying hard to please, then I'm ok with not being too athletic and often more at ease with going with the flow and enjoying the girls talents.
BUT. Then it becomes a viscous circle right? If the girl knows she isn't into it and you will give her a good one. So then she refuses doggy etc.
Anyone else agree?
Smoothy often compares Classic to Maribaya. I'm definitely in that camp.
Smoothy often compares Classic to Maribaya. I'm definitely in that camp.I compare them for contrast only. Classic has young attractive girls who provide terrible service and are crap shags. Maribaya has older less attractive girls who provide awesome service and are great shags. It just depends what you are looking for.
Turgid,
Maliboro is great. Its one of my favorite places. I may have missed it, but I don't recall the price for your girl. If she was a hot harem girl, she should have been 1200. The imports get 1500 and the dancers get 1000 (10 drinks) + 1200. I don't think I would have taken a girl with the dour, bored attitude you ascribe to your girl no matter how attractive unless the mamasan guaranteed me of great performance, especially since there are a lot of very attractive girls in Malioboro exhibiting really robust friendly attitudes. Your girl's rather mixed performance bears out those early warning signs, but I can understand how beauty sometimes offsets other rather banal behavior. I have selected only outgoing sexually friendly girls who shoved their nipples into my mouth within seconds of meeting me and I have never had a Malioboro dancer refuse DFK, DATY, or even need my asking for a BBBJ. In fact, I have barebacked a couple of those sexy dancers. So I will continue to go only with the girls that indicate they want to have a good time and skip the ones acting like the session will be a chore.
On your last point; all punters have experienced sensory overload on rare occasions with a really hot girl they liked and consequently have shot off sooner than they would have preferred. Its no big deal unless it happens all the time. The last time it happened to me was with a really hot Chinese girl at Rio Sauna in Macau a couple of years ago. I still remember that girl and the good times (plural) I had with her! She was so hot and she really turned me on. After we engaged in a prolonged 69, she impaled herself on my dick. I palmed her beautiful breasts and came in less than 5 minutes. I just couldn't control myself. LOL. My orgasm got away from me and was unstoppable. It felt good, but I couldn't help feeling inside that I had squandered a great moment and I couldn't wait to go back to Rio the next night and try the girl again.
We were both more familiar and relaxed with each other in the 2nd session. We got into another long time 69, then she mounted me and gave me Asian cowgirl for at least 15 minutes. When she began to tire, I picked her up, gently laid her on her back, and finished her off in mish. The phone rang indicating my time was up while we were still in each others arms. Obviously the 2nd session was more fulfilling than the 1st session and it restored my self image and footing with regards to the girl, but looking back and perhaps because of the 2nd session, I fondly remember losing control that 1st night with that truly hot girl. That loss of control does not happen to me very often. She was an amazing girl.I must admit that I don't often get to get to session with such beautiful women. I hobby mostly in the Caribbean and Latin America and the beauty of Asian women trumps those of that region. The only asset of the women from LA and the Caribbean that beats Asian women is the derriere and my little cutie from Malioboro had a good enough one on her. There was actually a Colombian in there who fetched R2 M and looked quite plain in comparison to my babe. My honey costed R1,050,000 which was a surprise to me as I thought I would have been asked to pay more. I know a lot of punters will disagree with me but at this point in my life I am sometimes willing to sacrifice good service for an optifuck. I know it's messed up but I can't help myself. However, I would like to get some frenzied action before leaving Indonesia, after all I've heard that Indonesian women are the horniest in all of Asia!
In all fairness to Latin Americans I have in fact banged some adorable broads in Brazil, Argentina and Colombia but the numbers in Asia are just over-whelming.
10 minutes is long enough. Once I'm inside them, I'm normally done in less than 2 minutes. If you had lasted 45 minutes, the girl would likely not have given you her phone number.I felt I did not get my monies' worth with approximately 7 1/2 minutes as it turned out. I hope you are wrong about the girl as I intend to have hot, sweaty sex with her before long.
That's because you went to the brothel area. If you go to the club area (2nd entrance just passed the first one, or reachable through the 2nd /3rd floor passing the rooms) you'll find the full naked girls dancing on stage, naked girls giving lap dances and occasionally blowjobs right in the club. (A BJ costs 20 shots, that equals 1 million IDR). They usually bring you upstairs to the curtained boots but I've seen (and had) it done right on the sofa's in the club as well. Don't try it on the standing tables though, that won't work.This place never ceases to surprise me. I will go in search of the club area in my next visit.
In all fairness to Latin Americans I have in fact banged some adorable broads in Brazil, Argentina and Colombia but the numbers in Asia are just over-whelming.There are more 9 and 10 out of 10's in South America. But Asia has more quantity of cute girls who are 7 out of 10.
Malio.
I enter either by either the Spa or Club entrance based on the time of day. Before 7 pm I would advise entering by the Spa to get use of the facilities. The Spa puts on a show at 7 pm by the pools of naked girls. It's a bit of a circus act and demeaning for the girls as a guy who thinks he's directing the traffic blows a whistle loudly and shouts orders at them. If he could get away with it I'm sure he would also have a whip to crack. But the show is fun and you get a good wash, hot jacuzzi and full shave before getting dressed for the dance shows upstairs.
After 9 pm enter by the club as the sauna is closing up. For either venue I would advise everyone admires the humorous artwork on the valet parking walls and inside the club.
Entrance fee for both is Rp100 000 so you are getting something for it with the spa, maybe you get a free drink with the club, I can't remember. Despite what earlier posters commented the prices are not fixed. The girl you choose is free to decide how many drinks you have to buy her. If she needs money, you're a favourable tipper or it's still early the cost can be anything in a multiple of 5 although having said all that I tend to chat to them in Betawi rather than English.
All the girls I've been with have given thorough professional BBBJ and have made an effort to continue the BJ service and clean up with their tongues after you've fired off. For this reason alone I avoid kissing them or any sort of fine dining. The best girls are the ones who approach you on their own and ask for a drink. The ones that pester in groups at the dance floor tend to be more inexperienced though often more voluptuous. The girls that need to use mamasans are plain lazy.
If you like Malio I would also recommend a visit to Kings Cross on a separate night.
Also Smoothy thanks for the hotel advice, I'm always on the look out for a room with a large balcony to satisfy the girls who crave cigarettes.
There are more 9 and 10 out of 10's in South America. But Asia has more quantity of cute girls who are 7 out of 10.My experience is that the 9 and 10 out of 10's in South America do not p4 p except perhaps for one or two in Brazil.
Need some guidance for my next month trip.
Am coming for 3 nights purpose is to enjoy with girls.
Am planning to stay near Blok m hotel Melawai? Is this good option.
How much taxi will cost from Melawai to hotel classic??
How much girl cost for long term in top gun or the's average?
Is any good massage parlour near Blok m?
Also am on budget trip so planning to visit top gun. The's place. Hotel classic any maybe Maliboro.
Please suggest me if this looks good plan as I don't drink am planning to just enjoy with girls 3 nights?? Also my per say budget is $100.
How much taxi will cost from Melawai to hotel classic??Given that you are at the opposite end of the city and traffic can be horrible, I would estimate 70,000 to 100,000 rupiah one way.
Given that you are at the opposite end of the city and traffic can be horrible, I would estimate 70,000 to 100,000 rupiah one way.Is any bus or train option available to move from Blok M to hotel Classic?
Is any bus or train option available to move from Blok M to hotel Classic?Yes, price last time I used it was 3000 rph, and its a great option.
From BlokM catch the Transjakarta busway (the big bendy red ones, not the little red and blue ones with people hanging out) to the station in front of the grand mecure.
This also the stop for Malioboro Spa, which is just before the stop on your side of the road.
Walk along the street next to the grand mecure, dodge the rats and streetwalkers for 15 mins and hotel Classic on the left.
Before you get to the hotel, on the right is a busy street called jl Pecenongan, it has Emporium club on it (RTFF that), but most importantly some fantastic Indo and Chinese street andresturant food. Google that to your hearts content.
Busway might stop at midnight from memory, so taxi back at that time shouldn't be more than 50,000.
....Walk along the street next to the grand mecure, dodge the rats and streetwalkers for 15 mins and hotel Classic on the left....If he does not want to walk he can take a minivan for 4,000 are. They are parked near to the 7/11 at that corner.
If he does not want to walk he can take a minivan for 4,000 are. They are parked near to the 7/11 at that corner.Good luck taking one of those if you can't speak Indonesian.
... If you had lasted 45 minutes, the girl would likely not have given you her phone number.I think she would have. She apparently gave me a number that she reserves for punters (or just some) - no answer and no voicemail LOL.
Good luck taking one of those if you can't speak Indonesian.I speak not a lick of Indonesian. I entered without even saying my destination. Looked out for the Classic hotel which I knew would have a large sign easily seen at night. When you reach your destination knock on the roof of the van.
I speak not a lick of Indonesian. I entered without even saying my destination. Looked out for the Classic hotel which I knew would have a large sign easily seen at night. When you reach your destination knock on the roof of the van.I got in one of them years ago before I spoke Bahasa as well as I do now. I just wanted it to go straight down the road about a mile. Instead, as soon as it took off, it took a left and started going the opposite direction of where I wanted. I immediately got out and never took one again. Even now I wouldn't take one because I simply don't know the route they take. I'm sure if I spent the time to watch them for a while, I could figure it out. But I don't mind paying for an actual taxi.
Top Gun is often criticized on this forum and I can understand why. Nevertheless I still enjoy the easy atmosphere, the good music and 50,000 San Miguel. Two contrasting evenings: on Thursday not one girl looked attractive but on Friday there were many good picks. A little 20 yo 38 kg spinner became my GF for the night. She did not disappoint.
While having a late lunch today I saw this hot chick that got me peckish so after eating decided to head over to Malioboro. Entered around 4. 00 pm. There were only a handful of punters and I estimate around 30 girls. Grabbed a drink and sat at a table by myself looking around at what was available. Things looked slow and I was ignored for a while. Then a mama came up to me and asked if I wanted to see her girls to which I agreed. She brought over around 10 girls, none looked really enthusiastic with the exception of one who looked at me and smiled sweetly. To describe her would make me guilty of tautology in respect of Malioboro girls but she was exquisite. About 5'6", slim and extremely cute I immediately chose her, signed the invoice for R1,050,000 and headed to the room arm in arm.
Showered then on to the bed. Everything on the menu was sampled and was absolutely delightful. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, etc. The foreplay was long and enjoyable. Then onto FS, as much as I enjoyed it I would swear that she was having more fun than me so that when I came after about 10 minutes (I could not hold back) she kept me inside of her as if hoping I would not get soft. Alas the inevitable happened and I am certain if I was up to it she would have given me a second go. This one was just as beautiful as my first Malioboro girl but much better in the sack and, therefore, got a bigger tip. She was total GFE throughout. She gave me her number but said she works almost every day from 12.00 noon to 12.00 midnight, and it seems that the chances of meeting her outside are slim. I notice that in addition to the price for drinks and lady they added an extra R100,000; they did that in all my visits, seems to be an admission charge or something which I was not aware of.
What this visit showed me is that like Bangkok when the girl smiles at you in the lineup the service is better. However, even if the girl does not recognize you I find that the service here is still reasonable. I am actually tempted to say that with the demise of Chang Ping this may be the best mongering on the planet currently. These girls are genuinely beautiful and the GFE I got today was second to none. She was an absolute sweetie!
I am thinking about visiting King Cross soon. I like to have a point and shoot camera with me to take pictures of any girls I session with. Do any of you know whether there is security at the entrance that would prevent bringing in a backpack that has a small camera in it? For point of reference, Malioboro has a metal detector and guard at its entrance and although it is sometimes possible to talk oneself in with a backpack and small camera, it can be a PITA. Is King Cross like Malioboro in this respect, or easier?
I am thinking about visiting King Cross soon. I like to have a point and shoot camera with me to take pictures of any girls I session with. Do any of you know whether there is security at the entrance that would prevent bringing in a backpack that has a small camera in it? For point of reference, Malioboro has a metal detector and guard at its entrance and although it is sometimes possible to talk oneself in with a backpack and small camera, it can be a PITA. Is King Cross like Malioboro in this respect, or easier?It's easier. I have to physically take my phone out of my pocket to go through the scanner at Malioboro. I don't do that at Kings Cross. Then again, I've never tried to take a backpack in there. I know they do not allow backpacks in Hotel Classic or Hotel Travel. I even had them refuse to let me into MTR last time I went there with a backpack. They wanted me to check it at the door and I refused and went elsewhere. I had a computer in my bag, not a camera. I wasn't about to leave that outside the front door with those guys while I went in. Classic and Travel are safe enough though.
You bring a camera with you into the room every time? I can't recall ever seeing any pictures you posted on this forum.
It's easier. I have to physically take my phone out of my pocket to go through the scanner at Malioboro. I don't do that at Kings Cross. Then again, I've never tried to take a backpack in there. I know they do not allow backpacks in Hotel Classic or Hotel Travel. I even had them refuse to let me into MTR last time I went there with a backpack. They wanted me to check it at the door and I refused and went elsewhere. I had a computer in my bag, not a camera. I wasn't about to leave that outside the front door with those guys while I went in. Classic and Travel are safe enough though.
You bring a camera with you into the room every time? I can't recall ever seeing any pictures you posted on this forum.Thank you for the information. As to your not recalling me posting any pictures on this forum, that is because I haven't posted any pictures. If a girl ever asks me to or gives me explicit permission to post her pictures (as opposed to the often-made request that I not post their pictures) I will consider doing so.
I haven't posted any pictures. If a girl ever asks me to or gives me explicit permission to post her pictures (as opposed to the often-made request that I not post their pictures) I will consider doing so.You can always blur their faces and nobody would know who they are. Takes 5 seconds in a photo editing software. Without photos, this site wouldn't be anywhere near as popular as it is.
You can always blur their faces and nobody would know who they are. Takes 5 seconds in a photo editing software. Without photos, this site wouldn't be anywhere near as popular as it is.It seems most people come here for information, not photos; I know I certainly do. If you look at the present thread, you have to go about five pages back, and maybe around 70 or 80 posts to find any photos, and those are of outdoor street scenes, not photos of girls. I did go back ten pages (around 150 posts) in this thread and didn't see a single photo of a girl.
As to blurring their faces, I suspect, without knowing with certainty, most readers here have about the same level of interest in seeing photos like that as I do, which is somewhere less than zero.
Fast Eddie 48
08-23-15, 03:06
Is any bus or train option available to move from Blok M to hotel Classic?To WaZfun.
Just take the taxi is so cheap if you are a newbie in Jakarta don't know your way why waste time take the bus. So many pick pocket and many local rider.
Fast eddie 48.
Fast Eddie 48
08-23-15, 03:10
I am thinking about visiting King Cross soon. I like to have a point and shoot camera with me to take pictures of any girls I session with. Do any of you know whether there is security at the entrance that would prevent bringing in a backpack that has a small camera in it? For point of reference, Malioboro has a metal detector and guard at its entrance and although it is sometimes possible to talk oneself in with a backpack and small camera, it can be a PITA. Is King Cross like Malioboro in this respect, or easier?To LA.
I know they do check all back pack same as Hotel Travel and hotel classic, they will check in all bag in the front and you pick it up on your way out but you can bring in phone with camera but girl don't allow you to take photo.
Fast eddie 48.
I did go back ten pages (around 150 posts) in this thread and didn't see a single photo of a girl. Try checking the PHOTO GALLERY thread.
Try checking the PHOTO GALLERY thread.Okay I stand corrected. In the last week there have been about 60 posts in the Jakarta thread and as best as I can tell two photos from Indonesia of one girl in the photo gallery, namely yours. That this is the first time after being a member here for a few years I even bothered to look in the photo gallery is is consistent with what I said earlier that I am here for information, not photos (whether to view or post). I suspect there are many others like me, but who knows?
To LA. but girl don't allow you to take photo.Fast eddie 48.That is not so. I no longer take photos of girls but in making small talk I pretend to have my phone with me, which I don't, and ask whether they would allow photos and all the girls I have been with at Malioboro said yes. I did not pursue to enquire whether unclothed.
To LA.
I know they do check all back pack same as Hotel Travel and hotel classic, they will check in all bag in the front and you pick it up on your way out but you can bring in phone with camera but girl don't allow you to take photo.
Fast eddie 48.I've talked my backpack into both Classic and Travel on occasion (I need my pocket Indonesian dictionary; I have special condoms; my passport is here; etc.) but it is probably more work to do so than it is worth. I have taken photos of girls at both places (although it sometimes takes some persuasion after the initial knee-jerk "no," which I've gotten from some girls) but frankly given the level of service I typically received at both places those particular photos mean little to me.
Maybe my high success rate in getting photos is because the girls somehow figure out I am not going to post them on the internet. LOL Actually, they often ask (yes, including at Maribaya) and I assure them I'm not going to do so.
I've talked my backpack into both Classic and Travel on occasion (I need my pocket Indonesian dictionary; I have special condoms; my passport is here; etc.) but it is probably more work to do so than it is worth. I have taken photos of girls at both places (although it sometimes takes some persuasion after the initial knee-jerk "no," which I've gotten from some girls) but frankly given the level of service I typically received at both places those particular photos mean little to me.
Maybe my high success rate in getting photos is because the girls somehow figure out I am not going to post them on the internet. LOL Actually, they often ask (yes, including at Maribaya) and I assure them I'm not going to do so.The girls in those places in Kota can't even speak English, let alone find this site where it's exclusively in English, so I'm guessing whether you post them here or not has zero to do with it. It's not difficult to have a high rate of success in getting photos. I take photos of almost 100% of the girls I go with. It's extremely rare for a girl in Indonesia or Thailand to refuse to allow me to take photos of them. There was one occasion about 5 years ago when some wanker member of this site showed the girls at Maribaya some photos of them that a guy had posted here. For about 6 months, the girls at Maribaya refused photos due to that. They are ok with photos again now though.
It seems the trend lately for this forum is to only post the same information that has already been posted in the past in this Jakarta section and not post any photos. In the past, this forum was much more entertaining because quite a few of the members posted photos of the girls they have been with and had interesting stories about how they met certain girls around town. Now it's just reports on the brothels in Kota over and over again. Is there really anything interesting to report about a brothel? You go in, you pay your money and you get laid. I'm not saying I don't enjoy visiting them, but there is nothing new to report on them that hasn't already been reported here ad infinitum. However, I never get bored with looking at photos of those cute LBFMs.
The girls in those places in Kota can't even speak English, let alone find this site where it's exclusively in English, so I'm guessing whether you post them here or not has zero to do with it. There was one occasion about 5 years ago when some wanker member of this site showed the girls at Maribaya some photos of them that a guy had posted here. For about 6 months, the girls at Maribaya refused photos due to that. They are ok with photos again now though.
It seems the trend lately for this forum is to only post the same information that has already been posted in the past in this Jakarta section and not post any photos. In the past, this forum was much more entertaining because quite a few of the members posted photos of the girls they have been with and had interesting stories about how they met certain girls around town. Now it's just reports on the brothels in Kota over and over again. Is there really anything interesting to report about a brothel? You go in, you pay your money and you get laid. I'm not saying I don't enjoy visiting them, but there is nothing new to report on them that hasn't already been reported here ad infinitum. However, I never get bored with looking at photos of those cute LBFMs.First of all, the site is what it is, and if you don't find it useful perhaps you should hang out at one of the others more to your tastes. If that should mean the members here would be spared your criticism because they are not providing what you desire, that would be all for the better.
It is presumptuous for you to "guess" my decision not to post photos here has zero to do with the possibility the girls would find out the photos have been posted, their families would find out their photos have been posted, or someone else who could cause trouble would find out the girls' photos have been posted. And in an amazing burst of obtuseness you then follow this "guess" of yours with an example of a board member showing photos that were posted here to girls at Maribaya? Too difficult for you to see the connection?
So Einstein, let's hear your "guess" as to why I don't post photos of girls here? I'm always looking for a good laugh.
It seems the trend lately for this forum is to only post the same information that has already been posted in the past in this Jakarta section and not post any photos. In the past, this forum was much more entertaining because quite a few of the members posted photos of the girls they have been with and had interesting stories about how they met certain girls around town. Now it's just reports on the brothels in Kota over and over again. Is there really anything interesting to report about a brothel? You go in, you pay your money and you get laid. I'm not saying I don't enjoy visiting them, but there is nothing new to report on them that hasn't already been reported here ad infinitum. From your reports I gather that you live here so brothel reports may not be of much value to you. However, for someone like myself who is not as fortunate as you are these reports are useful and indeed is the reason I'm here. Sometimes I need to read different reports of different places so I can use circumstantial evidence to choose where to give priority. Furthermore things change and an establishment that's good today may not be so tomorrow so continuing reports are useful. Just my POV.
First of all, the site is what it is, and if you don't find it useful perhaps you should hang out at one of the others more to your tastes. If that should mean the members here would be spared your criticism because they are not providing what you desire, that would be all for the better.I've been on this site since the late 90's. There are many good posters on here. I just don't find you to be one of them.
It is presumptuous for you to "guess" my decision not to post photos here has zero to do with the possibility the girls would find out the photos have been postedI didn't say anything about your decisions. You are the same guy who thinks carrying your passport around town is a smart idea. So the quality of your decisions has already been noted.
What I said was I believe your "high success rate" has zero to do with it. And I say that because I personally have almost a 100% success rate myself and I post the photos on the internet.
Jackson doesn't have a photo feature on this site for nothing. Personally, I think one of the main reasons people join this site is for the photos. In many cases, a photo tells the true story of how good or bad a place is and the quality of the girls. If guys who visit these countries frequently and take a lot of photos aren't posting them, then who will? If the girls do ask me not to post their photo on the internet, I don't. But I bet if you really were asking all those girls if you could post them on the internet, some would be ok with it when you explain to them it will help get them customers. Shela at Maribaya used to beg me to post her photos. Check out the photos HiHi Ster posted recently. He covered their faces. No harm in that. Check the view count on those photos. Obviously there are guys interested.
continuing reports are useful. Just my POV.I liked your Malio report. I found that entertaining.
As far as changes, I don't think Malioboro, Alexis, Kings Cross, Hotel Classic, Hotel Travel, or pretty much any of the big brothels in town have changed at all in the last 5 (or even 10) years other than slight price increases.
The last change in town was when Stadium disco closed down quite a few years ago. That was a sad day. I think most of us had some good times there.
The Blok has changed because it used to be the best place in town for free lancers. Now it seems most prefer the 5 star hotels for that, but the prices have gotten crazy.
Master Diver II
08-26-15, 05:48
Jackson doesn't have a photo feature on this site for nothing. Personally, I think one of the main reasons people join this site is for the photos. In many cases, a photo tells the true story of how good or bad a place is and the quality of the girls. If guys who visit these countries frequently and take a lot of photos aren't posting them, then who will? You took the words right out of my mouth Smoothy. If this site wasn't meant to have photos, there wouldn't be photo gallery. I do disagree that most join for the photos - but they're a nice bonus:D. It also indicates that poster's tastes so you better understand what they find attractive or pretty, which gives you a much better feel for whatever location they were in, and what the possibilities are there. Pity I can't post my current set of photos as they are "normal" women and not P4P. I have, however, posted many times in the past so people will get a better understanding of where I'm coming from. Incidentally the Philippines has a very well run photo thread - no posting without a photo. I do hate this damned auto-correct BTW; I always have to edit my post to get rid of some seriously dumb "corrections":( and it's the only way to get emoticons to stay in your FR:p.
MD II.
I really must revise a statement I made in an earlier post about the friendliness of Indonesian women. After being here so far for eleven days and encountering women from different parts of Jakarta I am now convinced that Indonesians are the friendliest women I have ever met. I am talking about normal everyday women you will encounter such as sales clerks, cashiers, waitresses, hotel staff, employees in business places, etc. The previous friendliest women I have encountered have been in China but Indonesian women have surpassed them. Many women I smile at will not fail to smile back. If only I could speak Indonesian. This brings me to my second point; I read somewhere on ISG more than likely in the Thailand thread that Indonesian women are more conversant in English than Thai women – I can categorically say that this is not so. I find that the vast majority of Indonesians I encounter either do not speak English or speak very little which is not my experience in Thailand.
Traveler1234
08-27-15, 14:05
If only I could speak Indonesian. Simple conversational bahasa terms is fairly easy to learn, certainly much easier than Thai. The return on investment is excellent ;)
Hi Guys.
Long report about my Delta experience last night. I don't normally write posts on every massage I get as these type of places are a dime a dozen in this city and all over asia. But this one was the best I've had in Jakarta so wanted to share. So I was feeling like some variety from my current small stable of Ibu's and decided to treat myself to a Delta visit. I had seen the 'wet massage' sign recently added and it got me somewhat intrigued, and it had been a few years since I was at Delta and usually only there as a relaxing start to a big bucks or boys night out.
Goto the room, girls arrivals, cute little thing with a big smile and maybe 25 yr-28 yrs old, english little little. Anyway massage starts usual style, but this girl is very well trained and does a great job of rubbing not only my back but also rubbing under and having an occasional grope. Sometime here she toddles off to the other room and turns stuff on and off, water flows, matches are lit. Massage resumes, still only face down, bit of ball play, bit of ass rubbing, and the obligatory spiderman type pose when I am lying face down and where my legs are bent in the air on her thighs whilst she rubs all around my cock and ass and balls. I'm in heaven.
So we are now about 1/3 or close to half way though the massage and she instructs me its time to head to the other room. Ok, standup, try not to slip over considering my feet are lubedup and head to the sauna looking room which is now a little misty. Jump on the waterproof matress bed and lie down again, here is where it really starts to feel different to the normal massage. The oil is very viscous and quite hot due to sitting on a little burner, so the girl grabs a cloth and starts dropping it in the oil and pouring it on my back, ass etc. It is feeling really nice now, her hands are going everywhere my legs are bent sideways in 90 degree angles so she gets direct access to my package. She instructs me to lift up a bit from my thighs, so now she is basically giving me a front rub all areas from behind, and its feeling really good.
Time to turn over, get the hot oil the usual places which of course ends up all around my package (feeling a bit like hot wax mmm nice), well by now I'm pretty well worked up. So now the girl sits between my legs and rubs my balls and ahole every which way. Her finger is almost in penetration mode and starting to linger a bit longer around my ahole. I guess the body clues gave it away that I was enjoying this and she asked 'masuk disini' well who am I to say no, so she lifts my legs up wide open on her thighs and goes to work on sticking her full finger where the sun doesn't shine. Her other hand is working the old fella and I got to say I'm in heaven. Well after a few minutes of this, I am ready to blow, she changes hands and I am so worked up that I actually blow at the split second where she doesn't even have a hand one me, and damn you'd think I was 17 again with the distance I achieved. Anyway, she giggles and complements me and I star breathing again.
Following that she tells me she is going to turn on the ceiling water 'panas-dingin, 'panas-dingin' untuk dua minutes. I'm like OK, I roll over and FUCK ME, I get absolutely pulverized by hot and cold water for 2 minutes, But damn it feels good and I'm seriously tingling all over. Then I roll over, she sticks a little washcloth on my now tender privates and we go again with the bloody panas-dingin panas-dingin. Finish the panas-dingin and then she proceeds to shampoo my hair and use soap and washcloth and washes my entire body.
All over, leave the room on a cloud. Damage 692 k for 2 hrs and no tip given or requested, yes you can get 2 girls from classic for that, but sometimes it feels great to be treated like a king for 2 hrs. Sorry guys no photo, I asked but didn't push the point as I didn't want to get off to a bad foot. I know these places exist all over Asia, especially HK and China and the Chinese do this stuff really well. I haven't yet found anywhere in Jakarta offering the same experience, hence the post.
P.S. The only letdown, and a big-one unfortunately is that the girl stays clothed in a little skirt and croptop (dripping wet by the end of it), I knew they stayed clothed from previous visits but I was kinda hoping in the wet massage she might get into a bikini. I might leave that in the suggestion box next time.
PPS. With the wet massage they don't play that stupid extra time game, previous visits its almost guaranteed that the girl will start rubbing your balls when the phone rings for an extra session time extension.
Sorry if its a long post, just wanted to share as I was impressed. :)
Hi Guys.
Long report about my Delta experience last night. I don't normally write posts on every massage I get as these type of places are a dime a dozen in this city and all over asia. But this one was the best I've had in Jakarta so wanted to share. So I was feeling like some variety from my current small stable of Ibu's and decided to treat myself to a Delta visit. I had seen the 'wet massage' sign recently added and it got me somewhat intrigued, and it had been a few years since I was at Delta and usually only there as a relaxing start to a big bucks or boys night out.
Goto the room, girls arrivals, cute little thing with a big smile and maybe 25 yr-28 yrs old, english little little. Anyway massage starts usual style, but this girl is very well trained and does a great job of rubbing not only my back but also rubbing under and having an occasional grope. Sometime here she toddles off to the other room and turns stuff on and off, water flows, matches are lit. Massage resumes, still only face down, bit of ball play, bit of ass rubbing, and the obligatory spiderman type pose when I am lying face down and where my legs are bent in the air on her thighs whilst she rubs all around my cock and ass and balls. I'm in heaven.
So we are now about 1/3 or close to half way though the massage and she instructs me its time to head to the other room. Ok, standup, try not to slip over considering my feet are lubedup and head to the sauna looking room which is now a little misty. Jump on the waterproof matress bed and lie down again, here is where it really starts to feel different to the normal massage. The oil is very viscous and quite hot due to sitting on a little burner, so the girl grabs a cloth and starts dropping it in the oil and pouring it on my back, ass etc. It is feeling really nice now, her hands are going everywhere my legs are bent sideways in 90 degree angles so she gets direct access to my package. She instructs me to lift up a bit from my thighs, so now she is basically giving me a front rub all areas from behind, and its feeling really good.
Time to turn over, get the hot oil the usual places which of course ends up all around my package (feeling a bit like hot wax mmm nice), well by now I'm pretty well worked up. So now the girl sits between my legs and rubs my balls and ahole every which way. Her finger is almost in penetration mode and starting to linger a bit longer around my ahole. I guess the body clues gave it away that I was enjoying this and she asked 'masuk disini' well who am I to say no, so she lifts my legs up wide open on her thighs and goes to work on sticking her full finger where the sun doesn't shine. Her other hand is working the old fella and I got to say I'm in heaven. Well after a few minutes of this, I am ready to blow, she changes hands and I am so worked up that I actually blow at the split second where she doesn't even have a hand one me, and damn you'd think I was 17 again with the distance I achieved. Anyway, she giggles and complements me and I star breathing again.
Following that she tells me she is going to turn on the ceiling water 'panas-dingin, 'panas-dingin' untuk dua minutes. I'm like OK, I roll over and FUCK ME, I get absolutely pulverized by hot and cold water for 2 minutes, But damn it feels good and I'm seriously tingling all over. Then I roll over, she sticks a little washcloth on my now tender privates and we go again with the bloody panas-dingin panas-dingin. Finish the panas-dingin and then she proceeds to shampoo my hair and use soap and washcloth and washes my entire body.
All over, leave the room on a cloud. Damage 692 k for 2 hrs and no tip given or requested, yes you can get 2 girls from classic for that, but sometimes it feels great to be treated like a king for 2 hrs. Sorry guys no photo, I asked but didn't push the point as I didn't want to get off to a bad foot. I know these places exist all over Asia, especially HK and China and the Chinese do this stuff really well. I haven't yet found anywhere in Jakarta offering the same experience, hence the post.
P.S. The only letdown, and a big-one unfortunately is that the girl stays clothed in a little skirt and croptop (dripping wet by the end of it), I knew they stayed clothed from previous visits but I was kinda hoping in the wet massage she might get into a bikini. I might leave that in the suggestion box next time.
PPS. With the wet massage they don't play that stupid extra time game, previous visits its almost guaranteed that the girl will start rubbing your balls when the phone rings for an extra session time extension.
Sorry if its a long post, just wanted to share as I was impressed. :)Great report! I've had over a hundred massages at Delta, but I haven't tried that 'wet massage' yet. I love the "spiderman pose" description of that awkward position they always put you in. I never take photos at delta either. They stay fully clothed at all times, and they normally aren't very hot, so I have never seen the need. It's rare I ever get a bad massage there though. Delta is usually the first place I go after arriving from a long flight. I'll try that wet massage this coming week.
Great report! I've had over a hundred massages at Delta, but I haven't tried that 'wet massage' yet. I love the "spiderman pose" description of that awkward position they always put you in. I never take photos at delta either. They stay fully clothed at all times, and they normally aren't very hot, so I have never seen the need. It's rare I ever get a bad massage there though. Delta is usually the first place I go after arriving from a long flight. I'll try that wet massage this coming week.I've try it in Bali, same experience, just amazing!
P.S: 1,3 millions rp.
I really must revise a statement I made in an earlier post about the friendliness of Indonesian women. After being here so far for eleven days and encountering women from different parts of Jakarta I am now convinced that Indonesians are the friendliest women I have ever met. I am talking about normal everyday women you will encounter such as sales clerks, cashiers, waitresses, hotel staff, employees in business places, etc. The previous friendliest women I have encountered have been in China but Indonesian women have surpassed them. Many women I smile at will not fail to smile back. If only I could speak Indonesian. This brings me to my second point; I read somewhere on ISG more than likely in the Thailand thread that Indonesian women are more conversant in English than Thai women I can categorically say that this is not so. I find that the vast majority of Indonesians I encounter either do not speak English or speak very little which is not my experience in Thailand.Well, not only the women, but also the men are extremeley friendly in Indonesia. .
But regarding the english conversation, it's the other way round from my experiences. Sometimes English teachers are not able to do normal conversation in Thailand and when I got interviewed from English language students from university which happenend in Thailand an in Jakarta it was hard to follow the Thais but easy to follow the Indos.
For the rest it's like above the age of 35 in the average people English is getting less common, but if present the level is ok to good.
In Thailand the same level is normally only present in the p4 p area.
Dee.
But regarding the english conversation, it's the other way round from my experiences. Sometimes English teachers are not able to do normal conversation in Thailand and when I got interviewed from English language students from university which happenend in Thailand an in Jakarta it was hard to follow the Thais but easy to follow the Indos.This is true. I have a friend who is married to a Thai girl. Her father teaches English at a respected local Thai University. He even wrote the text book they use! But if you try to speak with him in English, he cannot hold a conversation. It's as if he knows no English at all. Very strange.
Hi All,
I am coming to Jakarta for a visit and will be living in serpong area. I did RTFF but was not able to find good info. Request help on find places like classic or independent.
Or massage plus plus (BJ and more) in the said vicinity.
Thanks in advance.
P.S. : my pm is active in case.
Sanysh.
John Aldrich
09-08-15, 17:44
Hi All,
I am coming to Jakarta for a visit and will be living in serpong area. I did RTFF but was not able to find good info. Request help on find places like classic or independent.
Or massage plus plus (BJ and more) in the said vicinity.
Thanks in advance.
P.S. : my pm is active in case.
Sanysh.I presume you will be staying in one of the hotels. The hotel would have a massage service. You could call for an in room massage or speak to the concierge. He will be able to arrange the girls in your room. Tangerang had banned karaoke bars and also night clubs. Am not sure whether it is still existing. Nevertheless, you can visit any of the bars in the hotels and you fill loads of ayams floating in the bars.
Have fun,
Cheers.
Crocodilexp
09-09-15, 18:05
What are the hours of Travel / Classic hotel clubs? How early does the action start? Are there any other decent spots in Jakarta for daytime action (before 5 pm)?
Francois75
09-09-15, 21:27
What are the hours of Travel / Classic hotel clubs? How early does the action start? Are there any other decent spots in Jakarta for daytime action (before 5 pm)?02:00 pm at Classic Terminal 2 entrance 30000 rp. Girl 350000 plus tip generally 100000. Some gems and generally good to very good service.
John Aldrich
09-09-15, 21:36
What are the hours of Travel / Classic hotel clubs? How early does the action start? Are there any other decent spots in Jakarta for daytime action (before 5 pm)?The action at Travel starts by around 11 am. Classic starts at 4 pm. Almost all the massage parlours in Hayam Wuruk area will start at 11 am. 6th floor, Maribaya starts at 10 am. Though, by the time most of the girls land is by at 12 noon.
Any action around senayan mall?
Seniors please help.
Regards.
Sanysh.
Any action around senayan mall? Seniors please help. Regards.
Sanysh.You are 3 or 4 km north of Blok M. You are less than 2 km from Hotel Mulia Senayan--CJ's Bar.
Please find out some basics and find out where you are relative to many places discussed in the forum. And report back!
Hi,
Thanks TimtimGuy.
I know these places by RTFF, but was looking for massage plus plus or establishment like hotel travel.
Any help around that.
Will do the report.
Thanks.
Sanysh.
You are 3 or 4 km north of Blok M. You are less than 2 km from Hotel Mulia Senayan--CJ's Bar.
Please find out some basics and find out where you are relative to many places discussed in the forum. And report back!
John Aldrich
09-11-15, 18:42
Any action around senayan mall?
Seniors please help.
Regards.
Sanysh.Hotel Atlet, next to Plaza Senayan has a massage parlor. You could expect plus plus if you go the parlor for a negotiated rate. If you are lucky, you can get FS. But, if you are staying in the room, you could order for massage in the room and FS is guaranteed for a negotiated rate.
Have fun,
Cheers.
if you are staying in the room, you could order for massage in the room and FS is guaranteed for a negotiated rate.
Have fun,
Cheers.I think those chicks want too much money. They were asking me for a million over and above the cost of the massage.
What's up with all the black African prostitutes at CJ's these days? I'm not sure who would prefer those girls over the Indo chicks, but it does seem like they get customers. From what I understand, they started at BATS, but after a few nights, BATS has banned them from the bar permanently. So they hit CJs now. Personally, I think the manager at BATS made the right move there.
John Aldrich
09-13-15, 15:32
I think those chicks want too much money. They were asking me for a million over and above the cost of the massage.Yes you are right Smoothy. That's in most hotels. Since he wanted a walking location from Plaza Senayan, this suggestion was made.
Tiradentes
09-13-15, 22:53
Visited Jakarta for the first time on my way to BKK. Below is a brief summary of my findings.
Taxis: Bunch of touts everywhere. Was charged 350,000 Rupia from the airport to the hotel in North Jakarta. For the return trip, I was charged half of that amount. When returning from clubs late at night, they refuse to put the meter and charge exuberant amounts.
ATM: I could not withdraw cash at most places, including the airport. And when I do, I would get a stack of small bills. The highest note is 100,00 which is equivalent to $ 7. Good news is that the clubs accept full payment with CC for an extra charge.
Costs: Was spending $ 400/ day average on women+food+taxis. Way beyond my budget.
Places Visited:
A. Hotel Alexis: Was charged 2. 6 millions for a Chinese girl that I would rate a 6 max. Everything was covered (! Went to the restaurant afterward and ordered a burger and a soda. Was charged almost 300,000 Rupiah (due to a 30% surcharge). Then went to the lounge bar. I was charged 100,000 Rupia for entrance. There were a total of 4 dancers in the bar on a Sunday evening. This place is overrated and a highway robbery.
'be'. King Crossings: Visited this place after the disappointing Alexis fiasco. I was IGNORED the entire time I was there by all: Waiters, mamasans, and the women. After staying for almost 1. 5 hours and visiting all 3 floors, I decided to leave empty handed.
'see'. Malioboro Hotel: The only place I can recommend. Had good times and I ended visiting the place on 3 consecutive nights. It is expensive, but not as Alexis above.
1. The women in street clothes cost 1 million. Got me a good looking one but bit shy. After going doing on her, she offered BBFS for 0. 5 million tip. I obliged but no cip. I took her again the next day.
2. The ladies in stripper clothing costs more, way more. Invited the first night a hottie to sit down with me. 250,000 Rupia (I. E. 5 shots of grape juice!) for a lap dance in the bar. Then proceeded to a booth for a BJ for 1 million are. Asked for FS. She said virgin. I said I am the Pope. She replied 3 millions. I declined. She ordered 20 shots of grape juice, which she threw all on the floor.
3. Next night, I got me another spinner stripper. Ordered her shots for a lap dance (250,000 R). Offered BJ, I asked for FS. She replied it is the time of the month. When I told her to get off me then, she rescinded. She asked for 2. 6 millions. Insisted on rubber use, I told her to take a hike.
4. Monday afternoon, I visited the spa. Got me a hot one for 1 million Rupia. Offered BBFS + cip for a small tip.
Overall: Mixed feelings: High costs, crooked taxis, ugly city / some nice looking women. I would not return immediatley, but might in few years as I need to camouflage my frequent visits to BKK.
Visited Jakarta for the first time on my way to BKK. Below is a brief summary of my findings.
Taxis: Bunch of touts everywhere. Was charged 350,000 Rupia from the airport to the hotel in North Jakarta. For the return trip, I was charged half of that amount. When returning from clubs late at night, they refuse to put the meter and charge exuberant amounts.
ATM: I could not withdraw cash at most places, including the airport. And when I do, I would get a stack of small bills. The highest note is 100,00 which is equivalent to $ 7. Good news is that the clubs accept full payment with CC for an extra charge.
Costs: Was spending $ 400/ day average on women+food+taxis. Way beyond my budget.
Places Visited:
A. Hotel Alexis: Was charged 2. 6 millions for a Chinese girl that I would rate a 6 max. Everything was covered (! Went to the restaurant afterward and ordered a burger and a soda. Was charged almost 300,000 Rupiah (due to a 30% surcharge). Then went to the lounge bar. I was charged 100,000 Rupia for entrance. There were a total of 4 dancers in the bar on a Sunday evening. This place is overrated and a highway robbery.
'be'. King Crossings: Visited this place after the disappointing Alexis fiasco. I was IGNORED the entire time I was there by all: Waiters, mamasans, and the women. After staying for almost 1. 5 hours and visiting all 3 floors, I decided to leave empty handed.
'see'. Malioboro Hotel: The only place I can recommend. Had good times and I ended visiting the place on 3 consecutive nights. It is expensive, but not as Alexis above.
1. The women in street clothes cost 1 million. Got me a good looking one but bit shy. After going doing on her, she offered BBFS for 0. 5 million tip. I obliged but no cip. I took her again the next day.
2. The ladies in stripper clothing costs more, way more. Invited the first night a hottie to sit down with me. 250,000 Rupia (I. E. 5 shots of grape juice!) for a lap dance in the bar. Then proceeded to a booth for a BJ for 1 million are. Asked for FS. She said virgin. I said I am the Pope. She replied 3 millions. I declined. She ordered 20 shots of grape juice, which she threw all on the floor.
3. Next night, I got me another spinner stripper. Ordered her shots for a lap dance (250,000 R). Offered BJ, I asked for FS. She replied it is the time of the month. When I told her to get off me then, she rescinded. She asked for 2. 6 millions. Insisted on rubber use, I told her to take a hike.
4. Monday afternon, I visited the spa. Got me a hot one for 1 million Rupia. Offered BBFS + cip for a small tip.
Overall: Mixed feelings: High costs, crooked taxis, ugly city / some nice looking women. I would not return immediatley, but might in few years as I need to camouflage my frequent visits to BKK.Given your handle, it may be worth mentioning that my extensive mongering in Brazil initially taught me that at least there there is a negligible if any correlation between cost and quality. In my experience, that also tends to be the case in Indonesia, particularly when it comes to service.
With the exception of King Cross, the places you visited were some of the more expensive places in Jakarta, and IMHO not really worth it (particularly Alexis). It would be like restricting one's mongering in Rio to Centaurus, or perhaps Bomboa in Sao Paulo although these analogies are not perfect in that at least in those Brazilian locales you could pretty much expect good service (albeit at a high price).
And it also looks like you didn't do your homework about taxis, unless your airport taxi to North Jakarta was by choice a Silver Bird or luxury White Horse (and even with those what you paid seems a tad too much). The only place you visited where you might have had trouble getting a metered taxi (e.g. , a Blue Bird, cheaper-version, i.e., not luxury, White Horse, or Express) was Alexis; indeed I got a metered taxi back from King Cross without any trouble about a week ago (although had to walk across the street to a taxi queue to get it), and never had any problem getting one from Malioboro. On the other hand, I actually prefer paying a premium to be driven from the airport to my hotel in a Silver Bird Mercedes Benz, and believe the cost (around $25 US to Central Jakarta) is one of the best taxi bargains worldwide.
Just to note for future trips, if you do go to Penjay (e.g., Sari Ayu, or LABar), it is difficult to get honest taxis from there. The ones who congregate outside that compound tend to be the type that do not turn on their meters. As a result I often try to flag a Blue Bird or Express on the street, but sometimes have had to wait five or ten minutes to get one.
As to the ATMs, I have never had a problem with the ATMs in Jakarta, although usually take out money from ATMs in places like Plaza Indonesia. My ATM card is based on the U.S.
Have to agree with you that Jakarta is an ugly city.
Short story is if you had stuck to Blue Birds, Expresses, and to a lesser extent the white White Horses, you almost certainly wouldn't have had taxi problems. And on your next trip I would advise trying some of the other locales within Jakarta, unless you are the type who needs to frequent the most luxurious and expensive places.
Member #4537
09-14-15, 04:25
Visited Jakarta for the first time on my way to BKK. Below is a brief summary of my findings.
Taxis: Bunch of touts everywhere. Was charged 350,000 Rupia from the airport to the hotel in North Jakarta. For the return trip, I was charged half of that amount. When returning from clubs late at night, they refuse to put the meter and charge exuberant amounts.
ATM: I could not withdraw cash at most places, including the airport. And when I do, I would get a stack of small bills. The highest note is 100,00 which is equivalent to $ 7. Good news is that the clubs accept full payment with CC for an extra charge.
Costs: Was spending $ 400/ day average on women+food+taxis. Way beyond my budget.
Places Visited:
A. Hotel Alexis: Was charged 2. 6 millions for a Chinese girl that I would rate a 6 max. Everything was covered (! Went to the restaurant afterward and ordered a burger and a soda. Was charged almost 300,000 Rupiah (due to a 30% surcharge). Then went to the lounge bar. I was charged 100,000 Rupia for entrance. There were a total of 4 dancers in the bar on a Sunday evening. This place is overrated and a highway robbery.
'be'. King Crossings: Visited this place after the disappointing Alexis fiasco. I was IGNORED the entire time I was there by all: Waiters, mamasans, and the women. After staying for almost 1. 5 hours and visiting all 3 floors, I decided to leave empty handed.
'see'. Malioboro Hotel: The only place I can recommend. Had good times and I ended visiting the place on 3 consecutive nights. It is expensive, but not as Alexis above.
1. The women in street clothes cost 1 million. Got me a good looking one but bit shy. After going doing on her, she offered BBFS for 0. 5 million tip. I obliged but no cip. I took her again the next day.
2. The ladies in stripper clothing costs more, way more. Invited the first night a hottie to sit down with me. 250,000 Rupia (I. E. 5 shots of grape juice!) for a lap dance in the bar. Then proceeded to a booth for a BJ for 1 million are. Asked for FS. She said virgin. I said I am the Pope. She replied 3 millions. I declined. She ordered 20 shots of grape juice, which she threw all on the floor..Taxis -- there's no reason you should be overpaying. When you're at the airport look for the Bluebird or Silverbird stand. Ignore the touts as they will certainly rip you off. If you're hailing a taxi from outside somewhere like Alexis or Malioboro, don't go with the ones parking outside but walk a few steps to the main street and get a normal one. It's all metered.
ATMs -- Look for ATMs that dispense 100 k bills. CIMB Niaga and HSBC machines, for example, give a solid 3 million in 100 k bills.
Cost - $400/ day is insane for Jakarta even if you're doing the 2-week millionaire thing. That translates to 5. 7 million at current exchange rates. It should be less than half of that if you know your way around and planned things in advance.
King Cross -- I was with a fellow monger a week ago and got the exact same treatment. I could speak in Bahasa fluent and have already been here 5 years. Out of the 5 girls I chose none wanted to go with me and were even making harsh remarks in Bahasa thinking I could not understand what they were saying. Had they just refused me in a polite way without making the remarks it would have been very appreciated. As I was leaving the place I refused to pay the cover charge on the basis that nobody would serve me. After being held for an hour and arguing with the satpams and manager, I was finally allowed to go without paying the ridiculous cover charge of 75 k. Overall, I would avoid this place as there seems to be an Anti-Bule sentiment developing.
Malioboro -- if you're after imports, go there or Classic Bunker instead. There's no reason you should be paying 2. 6 million for a PRC in Alexis if they go for a full million lower in Malioboro. And the girls are rotated between the two venues so they are exactly the same.
BBFS - 500 k is insane to tip for BBFS. When you take a freelancer regardless from where (CJs, BATS, "the street" as you mention) you shouldn't even negotiate a tip but tell her you'll cancel the session and won't pay her a thing if she doesn't give BBBFS. I've never had a chic walk out on me this way. The only places you should be tipping (and a max of 100 k) are the brothels as you've already paid upfront and you can't just walk out on her like with a freelancer.
LifeIsABeach
09-14-15, 06:47
Costs: Was spending $ 400/ day average on women+food+taxis. Way beyond my budget.Overall: Mixed feelings: High costs, crooked taxis, ugly city / some nice looking women. I would be visiting Jakarta and Bali in November and will be reading the posts more thoroughly from a couple of weeks. I have been to Surabaya before and really like the Indo women. Veteran mongers, I would not be coming to Jakarta for sight seeing but just mongering. USD $400.00 / day total seems a bit high for Indonesia. I am not a big drinker neither am a spring chicken that I can fuck 5 women a day. I could do a few hours with a good woman a day for or two some days. Any suggestions?
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Costs: Was spending $ 400/ day average on women+food+taxis.
Malioboro Hotel: The only place I can recommend. Had good times and I ended visiting the place on 3 consecutive nights. It is expensive, but not as Alexis above.
I do agree with you that for a first visit to Jakarta, Malioboro is perhaps the best place to visit. I have to admit that I do not go to expensive places in Jakarta like Alexis or Malioboro very often. I spend $300 to $500 every time I go to Alexis, so I try to avoid it. I probably spend about $200 each time I go to Malioboro. That may not sound too bad, but that is only for a couple of hours of my time and I will certainly shag more than that one girl during the day and night. Even going to the more down market places, I still spend an average of between $250 and $300 a day on women+food and drink+taxis in Jakarta. I spend about the same in Bangkok on food, drink and women (taxi cost is of course higher in Jakarta than in Bangkok).
Yes, getting a taxi with a fair meter price late at night in Jakarta can be a hassle relative to the ease of transportation you find in Bangkok. The main drawback of Jakarta is the fact that moving around town to get to the different entertainment venues is normally a pain. In Bangkok, it's very easy.
Roger Sideways
09-14-15, 22:37
ATM: I could not withdraw cash at most places, including the airport. And when I do, I would get a stack of small bills. The highest note is 100,00 which is equivalent to $ 7. Good news is that the clubs accept full payment with CC for an extra charge.The 100 K note is the biggest one they have, Bro. It's worth about $8 USD, and about $10 AUD.
So we have no choice but to walk around with what looks and feels like a big wad of cash.
Or use your credit card, which is always a risky prospect in Asia.
The good news is that for a couple of those 100 K bills you can get what would cost you $200 at home.
Tiradentes
09-15-15, 04:35
Given your handle, it may be worth mentioning that my extensive mongering in Brazil initially taught me that at least there there is a negligible if any correlation between cost and quality. In my experience, that also tends to be the case in Indonesia, particularly when it comes to service.
.Indeed, Rio and specially Terma Centaurus were my favorite places in the whole world only 4 years ago. Then everything changed. My love for Rio turned into despise. I got infected by the Asian bug, specifically the BBFS bug. I doubt I will ever step a foot in Rio again even if the US dollar hits 8 Reais.
I did have a cheat sheet with the name of at least 10 places to visit, 2 for every day while I am there in Jakarta. I went to Alexis because it was rated as the best. Obviously, that wasn't the case. The place is luxurious, but I am not there to eff the place. When I came back to my hotel and read more about it, I found that the Alexis management owns Emporium and other facilities on my list. So I cross all these out my notes.
Regarding cheaper venues such as King Cross and others, and as Egy Monger corroborated my statement, if you are not local, then there is a big chance that you will be refused service. So, again, cheap venues such as Travel / Classic hotels were deemed not worth my time.
So, Maliobore, it was. It also helped since I was staying at the Grand Mercure Harmoni, which is located 5 minutes walk from the place. Good services, good looking women, fair prices for FS made me go back 3 times. I did not care too much about the management and the waiters though, reminded me of the assholes at Rio's Terma Centaurus.
I did cut short my trip by one day and decided to fly to BKK instead.
Jakarta places a distant second to BKK in my book. But it surely beat the chaotic crazy city that is Manila.
Indeed, Rio and specially Terma Centaurus were my favorite places in the whole world only 4 years ago. Then everything changed. My love for Rio turned into despise. I got infected by the Asian bug, specifically the BBFS bug. I doubt I will ever step a foot in Rio again even if the US dollar hits 8 Reais.
I did have a cheat sheet with the name of at least 10 places to visit, 2 for every day while I am there in Jakarta. I went to Alexis because it was rated as the best. Obviously, that wasn't the case. The place is luxurious, but I am not there to eff the place. When I came back to my hotel and read more about it, I found that the Alexis management owns Emporium and other facilities on my list. So I cross all these out my notes.
Regarding cheaper venues such as King Cross and others, and as Egy Monger corroborated my statement, if you are not local, then there is a big chance that you will be refused service. So, again, cheap venues such as Travel / Classic hotels were deemed not worth my time.
So, Maliobore, it was. It also helped since I was staying at the Grand Mercure Harmoni, which is located 5 minutes walk from the place. Good services, good looking women, fair prices for FS made me go back 3 times. I did not care too much about the management and the waiters though, reminded me of the assholes at Rio's Terma Centaurus.
I did cut short my trip by one day and decided to fly to BKK instead.
Jakarta places a distant second to BKK in my book. But it surely beat the chaotic crazy city that is Manila.I have spent a few hundred days in Jakarta over the course of the last five years, cannot hold a conversation in Indonesian (although know some very basic vocabulary), and am white. i. e. , am clearly not a local on first appearances or otherwise. Although there have been the very occasional cases where a girl may have made a face indicating she did not want to go with me, I don't agree at all about the girls at the lower to mid-end places consistently refusing service to foreigners. That just isn't the case for me, nor for any of my "bule" friends, who range in attractiveness from attractive to not so attractive (mentioned so as to cover the range of possibilities for refusing a session).
I went with a bule friend to King Cross a little over a week ago, and we did not have any problem there other than the fact there are other places with better looking girls for less money (that was my first, and probably only visit to King Cross). My impression (again keeping in mind I have only been there once) is the girls will not approach you but rather you have to tell a mama- or papa-san you are interested in a particular girl. Once or twice I was asked by a papa-san whether I was interested in picking girl, but that was about it. There is a fine balance though between a locale where the mama-sans seem to always want to bother you (e.g. , at Classic) and a locale where they may err in the other direction. But I did not find King Cross inhospitable. I did, however, end up doing my session on the massage floor (keeping in mind the massage included full service).
Having said this, again I have only been to King Cross once, and don't have enough experience there as to whether there is an anti-bule bias. But even if there is, that should not be generalized to other locales in Jakarta, including the cheaper ones. In this regard, I note Egymonger's comments were only about King Cross, not other locales.
Moving to Malioboro, it is not a bad place, and I like the facilities there, but to my tastes there are places that are both cheaper and at which I get better service. So, Malioboro for me is a place I might go with a group of friends to socialize and hang out (and possibly take a session) but if I'm out alone I go elsewhere.
And I should mention that when I was last in Jakarta, a friend who has extensive experience mongering throughout the world visited for a few days (he now lives in Asia although is an American). I just heard from him that he enjoyed the mongering so much he returned for another few days. During his earlier trip, the most expensive place we visited was King Cross, and neither of us experienced any problems including any refusals at any of the places we visited..
Regarding cheaper venues such as King Cross and others, and as Egy Monger corroborated my statement, if you are not local, then there is a big chance that you will be refused service. I wouldn't say there is a "big chance" that you will be refused service. But it is possible some girls will refuse you. You are definitely safer at places like Malioboro and Alexis when it comes to the chance of not being refused service - and the service at those places is quite good. I've never been refused at Hotel Classic either, but I consider the service there to be horrible at least 80 pct of the time.
King Cross is one of the places not too many foreigners visit. I haven't been refused there yet, but I can verify Egy's story because I was with Egy the other night when the chick refused to go with a Bule (white guy). The chick I picked at King Cross that night loved Bules and told me her nickname was Ana Bule because she normally goes with any bule that comes into the place. She told me it wasn't often that bules did come there, but she was happy when they did. It just happened that the one Egy picked didn't want to go with a Bule. She was very tall, hot, and obviously had a high opinion of herself. I thought she looked more like an admin secretary in one of the offices I work in around town than a hooker. We had just seen her coming down the elevator from a session with a local indo guy, so she obviously wasn't shy to go with Indos. Unfortunately, once the other girls saw that girl refusing, they all started refusing to save face. Both Egy and I have been there in the past and we have taken girls there with no issues. When the girls refuse to go with a Bule, they normally refuse either because they are scared you have a big dick or that they can't communicate with you. They are normally girls fresh out of the kampung (village) who have never been with a bule before. Since Egy and I both speak bahasa, it was most likely due to the fear of him having "kontol besar" (big dick). But that girl was well maintained, was obviously not fresh out of the kampung, and was acting quite strange, so who knows? Maybe she had a bule boyfriend in the past who broke her heart.
It's not just King Cross, I have had girls refuse to go with me at various places around town where bules are not frequent customers. It used to happen frequently in the North Jakarta area back in the late 90's and early 2000's, but not so much anymore since many more bules visit those places now than they did back then. The first time it happened to me was in a place that I go now very frequently. But back then, every girl in the place refused to go with me because they thought I would have a big dick. It actually hurt my feelings at first. However, after a couple of visits there with my indo buddies from the office, one girl agreed to go upstairs with me (because the indo guys I was with talked her into trying a big dick). I couldn't speak bahasa back then, so I didn't know those guys had convinced her I had a big dick (those guys had no idea because they definitely had never seen it). I walked upstairs with the girl, and as soon as she locked the door, she said "show me your dick". She even said it in English! I took down my pants and was greeted by a look of disappointment on her face when she discovered that I do not in fact have a big dick. But we still went through with the "massage" and it was quite nice. She was a nice girl. Considering how girls like to gossip, the word got around immediately, and after that all of the girls there were happy to go with me. I likely paved the way for other bules to have success there as well, so I consider myself a pioneer of sorts. Haha.
It wasn't at King Cross, but I had a girl refuse to go with me just the other day when I stopped off for a shag at a place I don't go very often on my way to the airport. The mamasan dragged her over and she fought the mamasan saying "Bule? Gak mau!" Which translates to "white guy? I don't want!" The mamasan was trying to force her to go with me and I told her to forget it, I would choose a different girl. I ended up with a far better girl than that one anyway. That was when I found the chick who looked like Jupe that I posted in the photo gallery. So it worked out well. Jupe is without a doubt my favorite Indoensian artist. To find her double was a great coup. What a send off!
Living in Jakarta I completely agree with Egy and Smoothy. You grossly overtipped, you let yourself get ripped off by taxi's, you made totally wrong choices of places to visit and you got ripped off with a 250 k lap dance. I'd definitely recommend Tiradentes to do some more reading before visiting any new location; your trip was not successful due to your own lack of research. You crossed all companies that belong to the Alexis group from your list just because you had a (due to your own fault) bad experience at Alexis? That's like saying you had 1 lousy flight with Singapore Airlines now you'll never fly Silk Air.
Jakarta is a goldmine and is still relatively unspoiled especially if you are able to speak Indonesian, although you shouldn't have too many problems if you don't.
Come to think of it, no need to do any reading or research, stay in BKK, more for us.
Suppose you were in Jakarta during the period around Eid al adha. It's a major religious observance. Should one expect major places (Alexis, Malioboro, etc) to be running as usual all week, or will everything be closed? If closed, would it be just for the major observance days?
Thanks all.
Suppose you were in Jakarta during the period around Eid al adha. It's a major religious observance. Should one expect major places (Alexis, Malioboro, etc) to be running as usual all week, or will everything be closed? If closed, would it be just for the major observance days?
Thanks all.I have written this for the last couple of years coming up to Idul Adha because I got caught out a few times in my earlier days here. Idul Adha is a bad time for our hobby (obviously if you have someone lined up it's fine) all the bars are shut on the day and more importantly the night before (ie Wednesday evening) and you don't want to find yourself out on the streets on Wednesday after about 7 pm as the taxis disappear like snow in August.
It's a tricky couple of days because it is never as heavily advertised as Idul Fitri, however by Friday normal service should be resumed.
Your trip was not successful due to your own lack of research. I feel for him as I felt the same way in my first trip to Jakarta (well from about landing at the airport in the morning until 10 pm that night when I met someone and everything changed).
I thought Jakarta was the most God-awful dump on planet Earth, wandering around Blok M on a wet Saturday afternoon I couldn't imagine coming back after dark never mind having sex with any woman who would possibly be found there. In my defence there was no ISG (well it was called WSG back then but I hadn't discovered it), the poster made very bad choices and failed to take advantage of the vast wealth of useful information that has been provided here free of charge over a decade or more to help him negotiate the many pitfalls that he fell face first into.
Jakarta is a crap city by any reasonable standards, in one respect however it is among the most fantastic cities in the world and in that respect there is a goldmine of helpful knowledge here and all you have to do is carefully read it to enjoy what this town has to offer.
If you fail to do so, well you must take your lumps. Bangkok would appear to be the safer, wiser option.
In my defence there was no ISG (well it was called WSG back then but I hadn't discovered it)I had discovered the forum back then, but back then the Indonesia section was not helpful at all and had no information. The internet speed back then was crap as it was all very slow dial up and lost connection every few minutes. It's drastically different now. I didn't discover Blok M and Tanamur until I was in town 2 months! I thought Jakarta was horrible the first couple of months I was in town. When I first arrived, I asked the other expats at the office (all at least 10 years older than me) where they go at night and they told me they didn't go out because they were all married with families. When I did finally discover Tanamur and Blok M, I found those same guys there almost every night. They said they didn't tell me because they didn't want the word to get around to their wives, but now that I am going out to the same places, I was welcome to join them. I told them to go screw themselves. I will say though that Jakarta was a better place for mongering back then than it is now. And I think the fact that things were more hidden was the reason for it.
Member #4537
09-16-15, 06:44
Unfortunately, once the other girls saw that girl refusing, they all started refusing to save face.For the girls I believe it was more a case of "I'll refuse the Bule to show the rest of my peers that I'm not desperate and I have the power to say no" than saving face. It makes the desperate ones who don't get clients jealous, which is what the more popular and attractive ones aim to get out of this.
The whole setup of King's Cross does not help either. With the way the seating arrangement is made It feels like you're in the middle of a theatre, which makes gossip easy to go around.
I don't think it's fear of having a huge dick. After all, I did offer to show each and every one of them the size of my (relatively average) weener.
Even the mama sans always came up with bullshit excuses why they wouldn't go with me. They kept saying the girls were waiting for other clients who had already pre-booked them, but then when other local mongers arrived the same girls were paraded in front of them.
For the girls I believe it was more a case of "I'll refuse the Bule to show the rest of my peers that I'm not desperate and I have the power to say no" than saving face. It makes the desperate ones who don't get clients jealous, which is what the more popular and attractive ones aim to get out of this.
The whole setup of King's Cross does not help either. With the way the seating arrangement is made It feels like you're in the middle of a theatre, which makes gossip easy to go around.
I don't think it's fear of having a huge dick. After all, I did offer to show each and every one of them the size of my (relatively average) weener.
Even the mama sans always came up with bullshit excuses why they wouldn't go with me. They kept saying the girls were waiting for other clients who had already pre-booked them, but then when other local mongers arrived the same girls were paraded in front of them.Ya, for sure you were only picking the top popular hotties there, not the girls who don't get much action. Maybe they were showing off their power, just like Maya refusing to go with me these days. Unfortunately, there were not all that many hot chicks there that night. I liked later when we saw them all take their extremely high heels off so they could go home, they became drastically less attractive. That was an eye opener.
That setup at KC is basically putting the guys in the fish bowl rather than the girls, isn't it? I'd never thought of that, but it's accurate.
When the mamasan said the girl was "already booked", but then had her line up for those other guys to pick, at least we had the satisfaction of those guys refusing her. Her decision ended up costing her money.
The Red Baron
09-18-15, 11:33
I have written this for the last couple of years coming up to Idul Adha because I got caught out a few times in my earlier days here. Idul Adha is a bad time for our hobby (obviously if you have someone lined up it's fine) all the bars are shut on the day and more importantly the night before (ie Wednesday evening) and you don't want to find yourself out on the streets on Wednesday after about 7 pm as the taxis disappear like snow in August.
It's a tricky couple of days because it is never as heavily advertised as Idul Fitri, however by Friday normal service should be resumed.Thanks, are the in-room massages still going or is everything shut?
Thanks, are the in-room massages still going or is everything shut?Everything is shut. One year, we found out that Hotel Aryaduta still had massages going on, but I don't think they still do (they are a waste of time anyway). If you are looking for any action, you need to arrange for a free lance chick to come to your room. You could not possibly pick a worse time to be in Jakarta.
PStevens999
09-18-15, 15:26
Everything is shut. One year, we found out that Hotel Aryaduta still had massages going on, but I don't think they still do (they are a waste of time anyway). If you are looking for any action, you need to arrange for a free lance chick to come to your room. You could not possibly pick a worse time to be in Jakarta.Smoothy-- oh no-- "everything" is shut? I arrive in Jakarta for my first time on Wednesday. Was planning on hitting Ladies night at CJs on Wednesday and then Malioboro on Thursday. Am I totally screwed?
Smoothy-- oh no-- "everything" is shut? I arrive in Jakarta for my first time on Wednesday. Was planning on hitting Ladies night at CJs on Wednesday and then Malioboro on Thursday. Am I totally screwed?If you get really stuck go to Central Park which is a Chinese enclave more Hong Kong than Jakarta, the bars there never shut through any of the the recent idul fitri holidays. Across the highway from Central Park is a massage hotel I doubt it will close either.
Smoothy-- oh no-- "everything" is shut? I arrive in Jakarta for my first time on Wednesday. Was planning on hitting Ladies night at CJs on Wednesday and then Malioboro on Thursday. Am I totally screwed?Most likely you are totally screwed. I'm not in town right now or I'd confirm, but most likely they are closed Wednesday and Thursday (as Hilo77 posted earlier). Really bad timing. You can still contact girls via dating sites or phone dating apps and try to get them to come to your hotel, but all night spots will be closed.
I've never tried Central Park (nor even heard of it for mongering), but if Pete is suggesting it, that could be a possible option. Although I think you would need some more details to find exactly where to go there.
After all, I did offer to show each and every one of them the size of my (relatively average) weener.
Even the mama sans always came up with bullshit excuses why they wouldn't go with me. Maybe your offer to whip out your dick had something to do with none of them wanting to go with you. Just kidding.
Frankie555
09-19-15, 06:30
What time does KC open and when does it fill up with cewek?
Web search seems to indicate not open until 7 pm?
Thanks for any info.
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