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09-19-15, 10:47
D's Place is advertising for waitresses and dancers.
Might produce some interesting new girls.
The Red Baron
09-19-15, 12:22
Everything is shut. One year, we found out that Hotel Aryaduta still had massages going on, but I don't think they still do (they are a waste of time anyway). If you are looking for any action, you need to arrange for a free lance chick to come to your room. You could not possibly pick a worse time to be in Jakarta.Thanks man. From googling it looks like a fairly short holiday. How feasible is it to load up on Blok M girls phone numbers on Tuesday night? Or do they go ho'me for the holiday?
Thanks man. From googling it looks like a fairly short holiday. How feasible is it to load up on Blok M girls phone numbers on Tuesday night? Or do they go ho'me for the holiday?Tuesday night is pretty dead on the Blok, but you could get one or two numbers. You might want to try Maribaya at hotel Melawai, those girls may be interested in meeting up. BATS and CJs girls are even more likely to be available.
... I didn't discover Blok M and Tanamur until I was in town 2 months!.I've heard about Tanamur for the first time 2 days ago, from a friend who went there for his first evening in Jakarta, unfortunately with his girlfriend. They ended up high in bed with another girl. Next morning his GF wake up, wtf is this city! Packed their bags and ran to Bali LOL. He came back there only few months later, after they separate!
And I believe it's first time I read about Tanamur in this forum. May I ask how it was, and why it's not anymore.
Cheers.
Hi All,
Long pending but fresh FR.
After getting few tips in forum inputs and making my mind this is how it worked out.
I was on the other end of town near famous mall in serviced apartment, this area is near BLOK M so one choice was to go famous spots and bring girl home. I did this type of things in Manila and combodia so I made up my mind to go establishments like travel or classic which are new to me. Now the question was travel or classic or alexis. The later was taken out due money wise spend report so off I go to classic. Booked blue bird and went to classic (45 K). Due RTFF went to second floor directly. Behaved like I belong to place.
I must say this place is very good, clean and hassle free. After the tag entry went to the floor as it was Saturday it was house full. Lot of beautiful chicks were dancing semi naked (8 or 9 out 10 is my marking there). As it was rush hour mamamsans were not that pushy. As RTFF instruction got beer and and was seeing the girls dancing. After I was settled few mamasans came to me, few girls were not showing interest so I said I want to wait. So while doing the parade one girl came to me and smiled. Bingo. Mason said 350 K but said you can take 500 for two. I said fuck it I want two and my dream came true.
First girl. MILF (6 or 7 out 10).
Second Gilr. PYT (8 out of 10).
Of we went to basement then few cigs and then washing routine. Then CBJ (avoided BBJ as one girl was having sour throat), within minutes first MILF started reverse cow girl (looks like its classic trend LOL), while other girl was playing with my nipples. I did DFK with PYT but she was not liking it so didn't force. Then switched two times and came both the times in their hand.
These girls looks hygienic but I didn't take any chance of BBJ or bare back. They have durex but I also took mine to be sure and changed every time I switched. I also used lot of antibacterial lotions (sanitizers) in between as don't want to take any thing or want to give anything.
Any ways it was decent experience. Quality of girls is good and is must try for first timers.
Regards.
First girl. MILF (6 or 7 out 10).A MILF at Classic? You must have taken one of the mamasans. I don't think any of the hookers there are over 25 years old.
Yes bro. MILF is older chick than usual.
A MILF at Classic? You must have taken one of the mamasans. I don't think any of the hookers there are over 25 years old.
Undercoverh
09-22-15, 06:44
Hi All,
Long pending but fresh FR.
After getting few tips in forum inputs and making my mind this is how it worked out.
I was on the other end of town near famous mall in serviced apartment, this area is near BLOK M so one choice was to go famous spots and bring girl home. I did this type of things in Manila and combodia so I made up my mind to go establishments like travel or classic which are new to me. Now the question was travel or classic or alexis. The later was taken out due money wise spend report so off I go to classic. Booked blue bird and went to classic (45 K). Due RTFF went to second floor directly. Behaved like I belong to place.
I must say this place is very good, clean and hassle free. After the tag entry went to the floor as it was Saturday it was house full. Lot of beautiful chicks were dancing semi naked (8 or 9 out 10 is my marking there). As it was rush hour mamamsans were not that pushy. As RTFF instruction got beer and and was seeing the girls dancing. After I was settled few mamasans came to me, few girls were not showing interest so I said I want to wait. So while doing the parade one girl came to me and smiled. Bingo. Mason said 350 K but said you can take 500 for two. I said fuck it I want two and my dream came true.
First girl. MILF (6 or 7 out 10).
Second Gilr. PYT (8 out of 10).
Of we went to basement then few cigs and then washing routine. Then CBJ (avoided BBJ as one girl was having sour throat), within minutes first MILF started reverse cow girl (looks like its classic trend LOL), while other girl was playing with my nipples. I did DFK with PYT but she was not liking it so didn't force. Then switched two times and came both the times in their hand.
These girls looks hygienic but I didn't take any chance of BBJ or bare back. They have durex but I also took mine to be sure and changed every time I switched. I also used lot of antibacterial lotions (sanitizers) in between as don't want to take any thing or want to give anything.
Any ways it was decent experience. Quality of girls is good and is must try for first timers.
Regards.I am currently in Jakarta and I visited Classic a few nights ago and had a good time. In addition, I agree with your overall comments. I have been to other MPs in North Jakarta, but it is not worth since they cost a lot more for Indo girls, starting at 800,000 at some MP here in Jakarta. For overall value, Classic wins. I have been to Travel MP but I like Classic better. Both have the same low price of 350,000 for one girl and 520,000 for two girls. Thats $25 to $37!! Two young chicks for $37. Some guys on this website do not like Classic. As for me, I always have a good time there.
Just wondering, did you tip both the girls? If yes, how much? I had two girls at Travel but service was bad and I did not tip. I never had two girls at Classic, only one at a time.
Undercoverh
09-22-15, 07:06
Ya, for sure you were only picking the top popular hotties there, not the girls who don't get much action. Maybe they were showing off their power, just like Maya refusing to go with me these days. Unfortunately, there were not all that many hot chicks there that night. I liked later when we saw them all take their extremely high heels off so they could go home, they became drastically less attractive. That was an eye opener.
That setup at KC is basically putting the guys in the fish bowl rather than the girls, isn't it? I'd never thought of that, but it's accurate.
When the mamasan said the girl was "already booked", but then had her line up for those other guys to pick, at least we had the satisfaction of those guys refusing her. Her decision ended up costing her money.I have been to KC and had headaches there, and I am not White. Bottom line, KC perfers Indo men. Not all non Indo guys will have a bad time there. But, most will. That is why I stop going to KC long time ago.
Hi Bro,
As BBJ was not there and DFK was almost non existent I gave 50 K each. One girl was speaking Ok english hence the tip.
I am currently in Jakarta and I visited Classic a few nights ago and had a good time. In addition, I agree with your overall comments. I have been to other MPs in North Jakarta, but it is not worth since they cost a lot more for Indo girls, starting at 800,000 at some MP here in Jakarta. For overall value, Classic wins. I have been to Travel MP but I like Classic better. Both have the same low price of 350,000 for one girl and 520,000 for two girls. Thats $25 to $37!! Two young chicks for $37. Some guys on this website do not like Classic. As for me, I always have a good time there.
Just wondering, did you tip both the girls? If yes, how much? I had two girls at Travel but service was bad and I did not tip. I never had two girls at Classic, only one at a time.
Undercoverh
09-22-15, 07:56
I really must revise a statement I made in an earlier post about the friendliness of Indonesian women. After being here so far for eleven days and encountering women from different parts of Jakarta I am now convinced that Indonesians are the friendliest women I have ever met. I am talking about normal everyday women you will encounter such as sales clerks, cashiers, waitresses, hotel staff, employees in business places, etc. The previous friendliest women I have encountered have been in China but Indonesian women have surpassed them. Many women I smile at will not fail to smile back. If only I could speak Indonesian. This brings me to my second point; I read somewhere on ISG more than likely in the Thailand thread that Indonesian women are more conversant in English than Thai women I can categorically say that this is not so. I find that the vast majority of Indonesians I encounter either do not speak English or speak very little which is not my experience in Thailand.Your statement hits upon a fact that is often overlooked on this website. Note, I am talking about regular Indo girls, not hookers. Most Indo girls are very nice and friendly. In addition, many like to date white guys. However, they are shy and a regular Indo will not approach you. Bottom line, if you are dressed nice, at least ok looking, and not too old, attractive Indo girls will date you. Again, I am not talking about hookers, but everyday regular girls working in the stores, malls, etc. If it was not for the fact I have a 19 year cute white skinned Vietnam girlfriend, I would be dating Indo girls.
Undercoverh
09-22-15, 08:01
Hi Bro,
As BBJ was not there and DFK was almost non existent I gave 50 K each. One girl was speaking Ok english hence the tip.Hi,
Thanks for the info.
I have been to Travel MP but I like Classic better. Both have the same low price of 350,000 for one girl and 520,000 for two girls. Thats $25 to $37!! Two young chicks for $37.
I had two girls at Travel but service was bad and I did not tip. I never had two girls at Classic, only one at a time.I agree that Travel is worse than Classic. However, in my opinion, it's foolish to take 2 girls at Classic. I've been a fool there at least 10 times (taken 2 girls) and EVERY time the service was horrible. When 2 girls get together in the room at that place, they do not perform as well as they do when they are alone. Then again, the service at Classic even with just one girl is mediocre in the first place. There are many occasions where I have been with 2 girls in Jakarta and had a fantastic fuck session with hot young girls, but Hotel Travel and Hotel Classic are not those type of places. If you take 1 girl at Classic (or Travel), you will fairly consistently get a mediocre but cheap starfish fuck with a young girl. If you take 2 girls, you are wasting your time. (I don't consider it wasting your money because it's only $37, but it is a waste of time.).
If you want to know how much I tip the girls at Classic, I have never tipped the girls anything when I took 2 of them because every time was a disaster. If I take just one girl and she provides mediocre service (normal Classic starfish) but does not use a condom for the BJ, I give her 50k. If she wants to use a condom for the BJ, she gets nothing, and I likely walk out. If she provides good service where I enjoy my time in there with her as well as the fuck, I give her 100k (that is rare at Classic).
Roger Sideways
09-22-15, 10:55
In my opinion, it's foolish to take 2 girls at Classic. I've been a fool there at least 10 times (taken 2 girls) and EVERY time the service was bad. When 2 girls get together in the room at that place, they do not perform as well as they do when they are alone. LOL.
10 times!
Einstein is reputed to have said the definition if madness is doing the same thing over and over and over again expecting a different outcome.
Having said that, I feel your pain. Never pay for 2 girls unless you are confident they will focus on you. 2 girls who share a language you do not understand will so often spend the whole time talking to each other instead of focusing on you. And who the fuck wants that?
I have been to KC and had headaches there.Maybe you weren't dressed well enough.
Undercoverh
09-22-15, 11:36
Quick update. I went to Malioboro Club this past Sunday. Got there around 6:30 pm. Four security guys at the front door will check you before you enter. Fee to enter is 120,000 IDR. Tons of girls. Mama stated fee for service is from 800,000 to 2,000,000. The 800,000 is for Indo girls. China, Russian, and Mongolian girls cost 2 M. Good looking Indo girls, but none I would pay 800,000 for. Saw a cute tall white skinned Mongolian girl. She made me home sick for my time spent buying and selling certain goods in Mongolia. I was with a long time Russian friend that makes his living taking out trash, the human type. We drank awhile with the girl from Russia and my Mongolian girl. After awhile, the girls were ready to be taken to the rooms. I paid 2 M for my girl and my buddy paid 2 M for his. I really enjoyed my time with here. She was tall, big breast and hips. My Russian buddy told me he enjoyed his time with his girl. After we cam back, the show had started, which starts at 8 pm. Sexy girls strip and provide lap dances for shot drinks. I spent about $200 there, my buddy spent around $250. This includes cost of girls, drinks, and shots for the girls to dance on you and you can touch all you want. Good time out with an old buddy, so the cost was worth it.
Undercoverh
09-22-15, 11:54
Maybe you weren't dressed well enough.Based on your negative uncalled for messages here to several members on this website, you are this sites official "troll. " You may not know what the word means, so you can Google it. You have more then 1,000 post here, where do you find the time. You spend most of your time sitting in front of your laptop, send negative messages to members post and jerking off to porn. Clearly, you are looking to fight with members. You were most likely the kid that got picked on in school, but you were to afraid to fight back. So, as adult, you spend your time hiding behind a laptop and picking fights with guys on this website. I am sure you will send a child's tantrum response to my message and I can assure you I will not waste my time to read it.
Based on your negative messages here to several members on this website.Firstly, I wouldn't call suggesting dressing nicely to be negative since you were the initial one who brought that up in a previous post. But, several? I have only disagreed with you and LA Guy recently and a couple of others over the years, and I've been on this site for almost 20 years, I didn't see you post anything until a few months ago. And LA Guy also made fun of your comments on "dressing nicely". So figure that one out.
If you like Classic, that's great. Enjoy it. I think it's ok because it's so cheap, but I think the service is sub par. I do find that Asians like places like Classic and Westerners not so much. There are plenty of choices in town.
Saw a cute tall white skinned Mongolian girl. I don't think I've ever seen a Mongolian girl in there. I like Mongolian girls! I have found them to be much better in bed than Chinese girls. Whenever I go to Beijing (I haven't been recently), I like to go to Maggies and there are both Chinese and Mongolian girls there. I've had some of the best sex in my life with the Mongolian girls from that place. The Chinese girls, not so much. I like it that the Chinese girls consider themselves superior to the Mongolian girls for some reason. They will say things like "you like Mongolian girl?" as if that's some horrible thing. And yes, I like Mongolian girl. I'm not sure why they are better in bed than the Chinese chicks, but it's pretty much without fail that they are better.
Anyone have any information on the below woman, she goes by Nia. Please share any feedback or experiences. Input will be highly appreciated.
Thanks.
Osaka
Undercoverh
09-22-15, 15:19
Just about every other day, I stop by the Indomart store (it is like a 7 11 store in the states) near my hotel to pick up needed items. I often see a cute young Muslim girl working as a sales clerk and she always wear her hijab, as most Muslim girls do here in Indonesia. When I first went to the store, she would only look and not smile. On my second trip to to the store, I smiled and said Hi. She gave me a big smile. After I paid here, I said thanks and bye. Now, when I go to the store, she greets me with a big smile and says Hi. When I left the store, I looked back and she was still looking me and she gave me another smile. Most of the regular, non hooker, Indo girls are shy to talk to foreigners. But if you are nice, give them smiles, and say Hi and thank you, many of them will really light up and be happy to talk to you. I have tried this with many Indo girls working in the mall, stores, etc. And 75 % of the time I get a good response. On my trip to here last year, I actually went out with a Indo girl that was 20 years old. She wore her hijab when we went out and she was a really nice sweet girl. She was seeking a ling term serious relationship and I was just looking for fun. I did not want to play games with her, since she was a very nice girl, so I did not stay in touch with her. If you see girls you like while you are out and about, just be nice with how you talk to them, and enjoy the sweetness you receive in return. Young Indo girls like to go out in groups. So offer to take her and her best friends to a coffee shop. It is a nice break from chasing hookers. At least for me anyway.
As you walk around here in Jakarta, you will see very few Indo guys trying to talk to Indo girls. It is not like America where guys will try to talk to girls walking on the street they do not know. Also, Indo guys here really do not pay much attention to girls working in the mall or stores. And why should they, with all the sex here for sale. Thus, Indo girls really light up when a guy treats them nice and talks friendly to them.
Most likely you are totally screwed. I'm not in town right now or I'd confirm, but most likely they are closed Wednesday and Thursday (as Hilo77 posted earlier). Really bad timing. You can still contact girls via dating sites or phone dating apps and try to get them to come to your hotel, but all night spots will be closed.
I've never tried Central Park (nor even heard of it for mongering), but if Pete is suggesting it, that could be a possible option. Although I think you would need some more details to find exactly where to go there.Guys are hotels girl friendly in Jakarta in muslim country had my reservation.
Firstly, I wouldn't call suggesting dressing nicely to be negative since you were the initial one who brought that up in a previous post. But, several? I have only disagreed with you and LA Guy recently and a couple of others over the years, and I've been on this site for almost 20 years, I didn't see you post anything until a few months ago. And LA Guy also made fun of your comments on "dressing nicely". So figure that one out.
So long as you have decided to mention it, the disagreement between you and me started when you made a snarky remark about how I didn't post photos on this site. In response to your snark I later posted a sarcastic comment "Maybe my high success rate in getting photos is because the girls somehow figure out I am not going to post them on the internet. LOL" Apparently, you didn't understand what "LOL" means or that the post was sarcastic and motivated by the snark you directed at me. You took my sarcastic statement as a serious one despite all indications to the contrary. It degenerated from there, with you then talking about how worthless this forum has become owing to the lack of people who post photos with their reports. Blah, blah, blah.
But thanks for mentioning that in your twenty years here you have only disagreed with me and a couple of others, even if in my case you were disagreeing with a statement you apparently did not understand and one that was a sarcastic response to your unappreciated snark and one that was not meant to be taken seriously.
Guys,
Are hotels girl friendly in Jakarta in Muslim country had my reservation.The vast majority of hotels in Jakarta are girl friendly. One would have to go out of one's way to find one that isn't.
I later posted a sarcastic comment "Maybe my high success rate in getting photos is because the girls somehow figure out I am not going to post them on the internet. LOL" Apparently, you didn't understand what "LOL" means or that the post was sarcastic My mistake. So you actually don't believe that the girls thinking you are not going to post the photos on the internet has anything to do with anything? So you are now going to share your photos with your fellow mongers here? Sorry for my initial confusion then.
Anyone have any information on the below woman, she goes by Nia. Please share any feedback or experiences. Input will be highly appreciated.
Thanks.
OsakaI do not know her. She looks to be about 40 years old. What information are you looking to find?
My mistake. So you actually don't believe that the girls thinking you are not going to post the photos on the internet has anything to do with anything? So you are now going to share your photos with your fellow mongers here? Sorry for my initial confusion then.Wrong again.
Fast Eddie 48
09-23-15, 01:50
I am currently in Jakarta and I visited Classic a few nights ago and had a good time. In addition, I agree with your overall comments. I have been to other MPs in North Jakarta, but it is not worth since they cost a lot more for Indo girls, starting at 800,000 at some MP here in Jakarta. For overall value, Classic wins. I have been to Travel MP but I like Classic better. Both have the same low price of 350,000 for one girl and 520,000 for two girls. Thats $25 to $37!! Two young chicks for $37. Some guys on this website do not like Classic. As for me, I always have a good time there.
Just wondering, did you tip both the girls? If yes, how much? I had two girls at Travel but service was bad and I did not tip. I never had two girls at Classic, only one at a time.To Undercoverh.
I think it is good to tip the girl 50 k if service is good girl are very pushy on tipping at classic and hotel travel not so at king cross, I don't think they get a fair share of the 350 k the house get most of that, I do try to offer extra tip upfront to get BBBJ but most girl there just don't offer that if you want to get BBBJ you better off go to Panjay brothel price is about the same room is crappy but you get BBBJ.
Fast eddie 48.
To Undercoverh.
I think it is good to tip the girl 50 k if service is good girl are very pushy on tipping at classic and hotel travel not so at king cross, I don't think they get a fair share of the 350 k the house get most of that, I do try to offer extra tip upfront to get BBBJ but most girl there just don't offer that if you want to get BBBJ you better off go to Panjay brothel price is about the same room is crappy but you get BBBJ.
Fast eddie 48.I agree that as a general rule the rooms at the Penjay bars are crappy but the VIP room at LA Bar, which does cost a bit more (but not much more), actually is quite good.
Undercoverh
09-23-15, 02:51
Isn't it just?
I gave up on Classic a long time ago. I had enjoyed a long and fun-filled afternoon and having a few hours to spare decided to give Classic a last chance.
I got a good-looking girl brought to my table, tall and slim with a nice rack, after a while the conversation was a bit leaden but I kept it going as I couldn't be bothered making the change and because I liked the look of her body.
In the room the usual story, perfunctory BJ (at least it was uncovered) and then straight into missionary, I did that for a while and then indicated she should flip herself over as a nice bit of doggy-style would finish the evening the way I wanted it. She flat out refused, with a sullen, contemptuous even, "gak mau, ah!" and indicating that she wasn't prepared to discuss the matter further. Just to be clear here I wasn't seeking some foul perversion, I wasn't asking her to open her mouth so I could take a dump or something, I was requesting a standard sexual position that used to be the default session in brothels in my youth.
I did what I never did before, I whipped off the johnnie, threw it on the floor, showered and dressed and walked out of the room with neither a fond farewell nor a tip, leaving her alone to enjoy her walk of shame past the cleaning staff.
I wonder is it just bules who get this terrible service because we are regarded as soft touches. I somehow can't imagine a local punter, Chinese or otherwise, putting up wth that after handing over his hard-earned.The Mams at Classic enjoy being pushy. F them. When I go, and Mama walks up to me trying to give me a girl, I nicely but firmly tell her I want to take my time and pick my own girl. If Mama goes ahead and brings me a girl, I will nicely refuse the girl, and tell Mama I want to select my own girl. If Mama does it again I get up and start walking around. I have no problems to refuese each girl if Mama is not going to listen to me and keep sending me girls I did not ask for after I told her nicely I want to select my own girl.
Note that Classic has Mama assigned to certain girl groups. That is why Mama always try to drag you to her girls section and does not want you to walk away to another Mamas section. They get a cut of what you pay for the girl, that is why they are so pushy. Also, the girls they push on you bares no relatiinship to good service. It is just the girl Mama thinks you should be f**king. The hell with that, no women is going to tell me who I should f**k!! I make my own choice, I always have and I always will. That goes for any MP. Some Mamas walk off and act like the are angry with me, F them. Plus, they are just acting as if they are upset with you. They know how to play the game.
When you go to Classic, never sit first. Talk a walk pass ALL the girls, smile at them, see whick smiles back. Some men are shy to do this. Hey, they are hookers who suck and F for a living, why should you be shy of them. After you see the girls that smile at you, these are the girls you want to select from. Then take a seat and think about which of the girls you want to F. Mama will come back and then you tell Mama which ones to bring over.
If no girls smile at you, take a seat. Check out which girls are acting happy vs which ones look like they are going to sleep. It should be clear, never pick a bored looking girl or one that acts like she does not want to be there. Look at the girls that turn you on. When I was there last weekend, there was this tall big Indo girl with big boobs and ass and full lips. I did my walk but she did not smile at me, that is ok, some girls are shy, ya even if they are hookers. I sat and watched her with her short dress and big legs crossed. I was getting an hard on thinking about her fat pu**y. She was very playful with her friends sitting next to her. So I asked Mama to bring her over to my table. I gave her a big smile and took her hand holding it. I told you are so cute and you have lovely hair. Then a big smile came from her and she seemed to warm up to me. So off to the room we go. When we get to the room, before I could sit on the bed, she put her arms around me and kissed me as I was holding onto her big soft Indo ass. We had a good F, and she even licked my ass while she gave me a BJ.
Note, some girls do not want to be a Classic. They are there because they have to be. And they just do the F but have already decide they will not enjoy it. These are not the girls you want to pick.
I tipped her 100,000. Total cost of fun with a 19 yo Indo babe, $32. For me, I like to go to places like Classic around 3pm or 3:30 pm during the week. The selection is not as great as in the weekend or at night, but I like to get the girls when they are fresh and have not F 10 guys yet for the day. Also, I do not like being there when it has a ton of customers. That is just me, to each their own.
No matter what, sometimes you will have a bad F with a hooker. When that happens to me at, say a place like Classic, I really do not care because it only cost $24 and no tip.
Well, I just got back from a very fun trip to Jakarta. I'll be posting my thoughts and try to cover things that aren't usually covered. Maybe give some insight to people that may want to visit.
I was there for a week before heading off to Pattaya and Angeles. I always like to try a new location, but I just keep going back to Thailand. Can't get enough of that place.
I think the quality of hotels vs the price you pay is very favorable. I stayed at a relatively budget hotel (FavHotels) and it was a very nice room with the basic amenities for a good price. Staff were excellent and the breakfast that was included was good but simple.
I want to go over BATS first. I tried going there one night, keyword is "tried". I wish someone mentioned that they have a dress code. Particularly no shorts. Now that may seem obvious to some, but it would have been good information to have. BATS is located in the fancy hotel Shangri-La. It is a nice hotel. When my taxi drove up to it, they had dogs sniffing cars, checking trunks, under cars, everything. Security is very high here. Reminds you that Indonesia is not all rainbows and roses.
Transportation. Taxi's are not expensive. They are relatively cheap. However the city is a shit storm when it comes to infrastructure. It takes a long to get somewhere, so plan out your route with the places you want to visit in advance. Sometimes you just have to take the hit with taxi's that want to price gouge you. One time I left Kings Cross and the Taxi's there wanted 200 k. I knew it was only about 100 k from my hotel to Kings Cross so I countered with 150 k, and the taxi accepted. Sometimes its ok to pay more, just not ridiculously more. Know how much you are over paying.
Also, despite the many reports not all Taxi drivers know where all the best spots to get pussy are, its not true. Probably the only hotel every Taxi driver knew about was Classic. I had to show directions and addresses to many other locations including Kings Cross, Malioboro and Alexis. So have the address ready to show the taxi.
Spa's and Bath houses.
This may not be for everyone. It was definitely something I enjoyed immensely. You can only spend so much of your time balls deep in Indo pussy and you usually can't do that during the morning time unless you had a guest stay overnight.
Classic Bunker basement level inside Classic Hotel- When you get there for the first time, don't be afraid to ask for directions, they know why you are there, its not a regular hotel. They have a very nice spa. It includes a sauna, steam room, treadmill cold / hot tub. Use it, You are on vacation take some time to steam up, open up those pores, get a massage and relax. I definitely enjoyed going through the whole experience of pampering myself. After you relaxed your body and detoxified, put on your robe and walk right it to the brothel portion to get your "special massage" by special I mean sex. Depending on the girl you select, you could end up with a pro level massage or an amateur attempt by a girl that really only intended to spread her legs. The mamasan can help you choose. They have a wide selection of Indo girls as well as imports. Of course imports cost more. It was a great experience and they open early. You can start your bath house experience before the brothel opens up.
Wrong again.Or you could say "right in the first place".
I want to go over BATS first. I tried going there one night, keyword is "tried". I wish someone mentioned that they have a dress code. Particularly no shorts. Now that may seem obvious to some, but it would have been good information to have.I find it a good rule of thumb to never wear shorts to go anywhere in Jakarta. Ever. Not even during the day. In Bali, it's the norm, but not in Jakarta.
And if you are going out at night, wear a shirt with a collar regardless of where you plan to go (just in case).
I had a good laugh at Dragonfly. A young bule in his 20's showed up there wearing a shirt that is popular for young guys to wear in the US. A white undershirt with a V neck. They refused to let him in wearing that. He complained to no end. They gave him the option of renting a shirt from them if he wanted to go in. He did that. The shirt he rented was the worst looking clownish shirt I've seen in a long time, but it did have a collar. It looked like hell on him. LOL! But he wore it.
There was another time we went to the Le Meridien night club and a guy was trying to get in wearing shorts. They refused him entrance. But they did offer to allow him to rent a pair of long pants for the evening. Again, those pants were goofy looking as hell. Big baggy pants fit for an elephant. It was hilarious. He was still, of course, able to pick up a hooker to take home.
Or you could say "right in the first place".You got a serious problem dude. I have no idea what you think you were so right about, but if it makes you feel better believe what you will.
Greetings from the Beijing board,
I'll be visiting Jakarta mid-October on business and looking to sample my first Indo ladies. I won't have too much time to travel into the centre of the city. Staying out in Tangerang, specifically near the Lippo Village. RTFF and searched, but nothing concrete turned up. Can anyone advise or recommend somewhere to go, or anyone I can contact directly before arrival?
PM is working and empty.
Thanks in advance.
ChelseaGrin
09-23-15, 19:09
I'm planning a trip somewhere around the end of Nov and would appreciate if someone can tell me the weather situation in Nov. Read that the rains start in Oct. Is it manageable to travel during the rains or is it bad enough to ruin your trip?
Fast Eddie 48
09-23-15, 20:47
You got a serious problem dude. I have no idea what you think you were so right about, but if it makes you feel better believe what you will.To LA Guy 5.
You should know by now he is a ISG Mafia he know everything and he is right all the time, he feel better about himself if he correct you.
Fast eddie 48.
Greetings from the Beijing board,
I'll be visiting Jakarta mid-October on business and looking to sample my first Indo ladies. I won't have too much time to travel into the centre of the city. Staying out in Tangerang, specifically near the Lippo Village. RTFF and searched, but nothing concrete turned up. Can anyone advise or recommend somewhere to go, or anyone I can contact directly before arrival?
PM is working and empty.
Thanks in advance.I've only been out there a couple of times. It was kind of a hot area about 10 years ago as far as a reasonably priced suburb to live. I always thought the name "Lippo Karawaci" sounded cool, so I checked it out to see if I might want to live there. But it's far from the heart of the action of Jakarta. As far as mongering in the area, I am no expert or even a novice when it comes to Tangerang. However, if you are near the Aryaduta in that area, there is a bar there that had a couple of decent girls sitting in it the one night I was there and they looked to be approachable. I wouldn't call it a hot spot or anything, but there's a chance. You may want to try the dateinasia site and search for girls living in tangerang. If you can hook one of those, you could meet them for coffee, then to your room if it works out.
If they give you a car and driver, you could have the car drive into Jakarta, but it is not a short drive. If you do that, you wouldn't want to head into Jakarta any earlier than 9 pm due to traffic. And you would get home fairly late. If you are in town for the weekend, you may want to book a hotel in Jakarta and stay there for the weekend rather than Tangerang.
I know there are some guys who do visit this site who will have more info on Tangerang than I have. It just depends if they log on before you visit. Good luck!
Fast Eddie 48
09-23-15, 21:04
I got a few PM about Panjay it is short for Pangeran Jayakarta in Kota near Mangar Dua mall also know as Kota Indah, there are KTV and night club there mostly for local music are very loud some have fish bowl girl are young and pretty same price as hotel travel with small room upstair, I find girl have better attuide here and offer BBBJ.
Fast eddie 48.
This 2 guys Menteng and Ko think they are forum Mafia I know their type very insecure people like to rag on other member to made himself look good, old ko post a few photo on the same girl over and over again from 5 yr ago from Maribaya and HE think HE is god get a life old fart.
Fast eddie 48.Although MANY forum members have insulted you and called you a liar over the years, I have never once been one who did that to you (go check the old posts if you don't believe it). But since you just now posted that I am included in that group, I am guessing they are all correct. And considering I have great respect for the 2 guys you are calling out here (Menteng and Ko) and have met them both in person and know them both to be stand up guys, I am not surprised.
Fast Eddie 48
09-24-15, 00:37
Although MANY forum members have insulted you and called you a liar over the years, I have never once been one who did that to you (go check the old posts if you don't believe it). But since you just now posted that I am included in that group, I am guessing they are all correct. And considering I have great respect for the 2 guys you are calling out here (Menteng and Ko) and have met them both in person and know them both to be stand up guys, I am not surprised.To smoothy.
I contact Menteng and oldman ko on my last trip they are no show and they said I am a fake because we never meet, maybe on my next trip early next yr we can meet up at King Cross for a drink, I know you have many post here and offer a lot of good info but you like to correct the newbie too much.
Fast eddie 48.
Blue Phone
09-24-15, 02:10
Hi,
I will be going to one of these spas such as Alexis for the first time and I probably want to try one of these pools where I can enjoy my time with my chick. I understand that there will be many other chicks and bros in the pool as well. Is it like a nude beach, orgy kinda thing? Is everyone like naked? I will surely have an erection. And do all guys have an erection there. And its like not a big deal. Else it will be so embarrassing.
Hi,
I will be going to one of these spas such as Alexis for the first time and I probably want to try one of these pools where I can enjoy my time with my chick. I understand that there will be many other chicks and bros in the pool as well. Is it like a nude beach, orgy kinda thing? Is everyone like naked? I will surely have an erection. And do all guys have an erection there. And its like not a big deal. Else it will be so embarrassing.I have only been to Alexis once, and my memory is not crystal clear. However, I do remember being a little bit disappointed in the pool time (before the actual session). I remember that although the girl I was with did a bit of regular massage, like shoulders, while I was in the pool, I don't remember anything particularly sexual going on. I believe they gave a bathing suit to me for the pool, although I don't have a specific memory about that. Also, I don't remember the girls being nude. Then again, when I was there there were not many couples at all in the pool, and there is the chance the girl I was with was less adventurous than others.
But others who have more experience at Alexis (and clearer memories) might have had other experiences than I did that one time.
I do not know her. She looks to be about 40 years old. What information are you looking to find?Just general information, like is she see around the Blok M, have any of you guys been with her. Is she a serious player? Or just a part time in search of extra dough.
Hi,
I will be going to one of these spas such as Alexis for the first time and I probably want to try one of these pools where I can enjoy my time with my chick. I understand that there will be many other chicks and bros in the pool as well. Is it like a nude beach, orgy kinda thing? Is everyone like naked? I will surely have an erection. And do all guys have an erection there. And its like not a big deal. Else it will be so embarrassing.I can help you out with that. Since I got there super early, I was able to snap a few pictures without anyone complaining.
Pictured is the pool. Its not very big.
Blue Phone
09-25-15, 06:40
I can help you out with that. Since I got there super early, I was able to snap a few pictures without anyone complaining.
Pictured is the pool. Its not very big.Hi there,
Thank you! Am actually thinking and worried about the embarrassment about whether I will have an erection that everyone can see. Especially with so many chicks around.
Staying out in Tangerang, specifically near the Lippo Village.
You may want to try the dateinasia site and search for girls living in tangerang.I had some contacts from Badoo and Dateinasia which gave Jakarta as their location although staying in Tangerang.
So you might use these sites and specify that you are in Tangerang.
Dee.
Just general information, like is she see around the Blok M, have any of you guys been with her. Is she a serious player? Or just a part time in search of extra dough.You should ask Mas Dar who works in Dees Place these days, he wears the oversize suits and everyone takes him for a schmuck. But he's been working the clubs 7 days a week since his teens and has a very very good memory for faces and events.
If it's more serious info. You need there is a Scottish British guy who does PI work in Indonesia, mainly fujitive and matrimonial stuff I think (judging by the questions he asks me).
I just found out that when you're not logged in, postings from members on your ignore list will be visible. That way I stumbled upon the latest posting of Fat Eddie where he mentioned me. He wrote that I was a-no-showup.
Let me repeat what really happened. He informed that he would be in Jakarta in a period that I would be there also. So I challenged him to meet during that stay but he insists to meet on a moment outside the to him known period of my stay.
Of course I couldn't comply to that and in his strange way of thinking that makes me a person who does not show up.
I don't mind him thinking that way, because his ability to think apparently is limited, but I don't like it when he, for no clear reasons, repeatedly accuses me of being a-no-showup in this thread.
IllusionHeart
09-25-15, 13:25
Hi,
I will be going to one of these spas such as Alexis for the first time and I probably want to try one of these pools where I can enjoy my time with my chick. I understand that there will be many other chicks and bros in the pool as well. Is it like a nude beach, orgy kinda thing? Is everyone like naked? I will surely have an erection. And do all guys have an erection there. And its like not a big deal. Else it will be so embarrassing.Blue phone, about Alexis:
1. Although the pool is not very big but even if 4 or 5 couples are in there at the same time they wouldn't be very close to each other. The girls distance themselves at appropriate intervals. I have been with 2 or 3 couples but in different side with comfortable distance between. Only thing which can bother you is the "buyers remorse" by seeing a hot chick with other guy. 555.
2. Noone's naked in the pool, You have to wear shorts and your girl will be in a bikini.
3. Girls will give you a shoulder massage, get on top of you and maybe kiss you (depending on your chemistry), fondle your tool or dry hump you. You can get a good feel of them but that's about it. No nude beach or orgy going on. The light and ambiance of the pool area is very good.
4. As you are on a clock so after 10 or 15 minutes either you will feel the urge or the girl will ask that you go to the room.
5. Even with multiple couples in the pool at the same time everyone is pretty busy in their own pleasure so no need to feel being watched or stared at.
Tip: Try to get there early evening (preferably 4 pm to 6 pm) when the pickings are good and the crowd is thin.
Spas such as Malioboro or the Hotel Classic (basement) also have a pool but girls don't accompany you there. Alexis is the only one I experienced. I am not aware of other Spas hence you can check further upon them.
Hope you have a great time as I did and share your FR once back.
Greetings from the Beijing board,
I'll be visiting Jakarta mid-October on business and looking to sample my first Indo ladies. I won't have too much time to travel into the centre of the city. Staying out in Tangerang, specifically near the Lippo Village. RTFF and searched, but nothing concrete turned up. Can anyone advise or recommend somewhere to go, or anyone I can contact directly before arrival?
PM is working and empty.
Thanks in advance.Tangerang like Depok and other satellite towns of Jakarta have local administrations that are leading the movement to "clean up Dodge". They are promoting their towns as modern, moral and religious places in order to attract the many newly minted middle class Indonesian families to live in their otherwise soulless suburbs. The thinking being that people will move there if they can raise their kids in an environment free from drugs, booze and "free sex" (corruption, pollution, traffic congestion and ghastly town planning presumably being factors of life that such people are happy to live with) because as we all know the sure-fire guarantee of preventing kids doing something is by passing a law that prevents adults doing it.
If I am not wrong alcohol cannot be purchased anywhere in South Tangerang, including bars, restaurants and hotels. Jakarta itself (ie the municipalities of North, South, East, West and Central Jakarta) is increasingly becoming an oasis (along with Bali) in an otherwise ever-drier desert in Indonesia. I have said it before, booze is the canary in the coal mine, where the booze ban leads the mongering ban rapidly follows.
I would stick to Jakarta, it's your safest bet, for now, although I wouldn't be so confident of saying that in five or ten years' time.
Jakarta itself (ie the municipalities of North, South, East, West and Central Jakarta) is increasingly becoming an oasis (along with Bali) in an otherwise ever-drier desert in Indonesia.I remember that they were going to allow alcoholic drinks only in the five-stars hotels and Bali. I'm relieved that, for the time being anyway, other places in Jakarta are still free to serve those drinks. But, I suppose that buying Bintang etc in supermarkets, is not possible anymore.
Staying at FX Harris. De Leila seems to have opened up for business to the right side of the mall as you enter. Fancy sign and steps leading downstairs. Is this the same De Leila from Gatot Subroto area which served arabian mongers? I'm being kept busy both in and out of bed by my online dates, hence no time to check out.
Member #4410
09-26-15, 23:30
I just found out that when you're not logged in, postings from members on your ignore list will be visible. That way I stumbled upon the latest posting of Fat Eddie where he mentioned me. He wrote that I was a-no-showup.
Let me repeat what really happened. He informed that he would be in Jakarta in a period that I would be there also. So I challenged him to meet during that stay but he insists to meet on a moment outside the to him known period of my stay.
Of course I couldn't comply to that and in his strange way of thinking that makes me a person who does not show up.
I don't mind him thinking that way, because his ability to think apparently is limited, but I don't like it when he, for no clear reasons, repeatedly accuses me of being a-no-showup in this thread.By now it has become quite clear that Eddie maybe travels around the world, but he has never done anything worth reporting in Jakarta, otherwise he would have posted some field reports or, better yet, pictures. To quote another senior member: "Without a picture, it didn't happen". Last December he managed to evade several senior members who volunteered to meet him.
I think it is best if the serious posters in the Indonesia forum ignore him until he posts something credible.
Regards,
Ko.
I had some contacts from Badoo and Dateinasia which gave Jakarta as their location although staying in Tangerang.
So you might use these sites and specify that you are in Tangerang.
Dee.Depends what your after, but get yourself to the golden boulevard Ruko you will find numerous massage / spa places.
There is a Delta there, a blowjob bar called BLOWART, Jupiter Spa and Orchid spas which are like a Delta.
You will also find seedier ones which offer BJ or FJ in this ruko, although I don't know their names. Generally I find the classier like Delta they are, the less likely it is FS and only a HJ.
Gading Serpong has options too, as does Alam Sutera. Google them with the words 'spa gading serpong' etc for more info.
Member #4410
09-26-15, 23:36
Hi,
I will be going to one of these spas such as Alexis for the first time and I probably want to try one of these pools where I can enjoy my time with my chick. I understand that there will be many other chicks and bros in the pool as well. Is it like a nude beach, orgy kinda thing? Is everyone like naked? I will surely have an erection. And do all guys have an erection there. And its like not a big deal. Else it will be so embarrassing.What's embarrassing about having an erection? If you're playing around with a girl in the pool and then retreat with her to a room everybody will take it for granted that you will at least have an erection in there, so why not before that? You would feel very embarrased in D's Place VIP room.
Well, I am back home after my three month sojourn to SEA. I have so much to report on that it is overwhelming just contemplating imparting my experiences on this board. My four week stay in Jakarta was one of my best trips ever, comparable to my trips to Rio de Janeiro and FKKs and my 2008 trip to Singapore. I must thank the Jakarta aficionados on this board, especially Natty Bumpo, who more than anything else were responsible for me making this trip from Thailand rather than going elsewhere.
At this time I will give the highlight of my trip and it will surprise many. My greatest sessions were not with the Indonesian cuties but actually with the "imports" at Malioboro. CIS ladies have generally been accused of being cold by punters but that has never really been my experience with them which has mostly been at German FKKs. I got excellent GFE and even PSE (which I don't so much care for) from the Russians, Kazaks and Uzbeks at Malioboro.
My experience is that the Jakarta mamasans are the best mamasans on the planet. They are great fun. On more than one occasion I saw girls fondle the breasts of their mamasans. These mamasans are very playful and on several occasions I got very touchy feely with them prior to making my choice. The best looking mamasan I have ever seen is Uzbek Camilla at Malioboro. She is better looking than most of her girls. She is very clever at deflecting overtures of which I made many. Anyone knows her story? I also sessioned a Mongolian (about 5' 5" without heels) and several absolutely gorgeous Chinese.
I only had one bad session during my four week visit and that was with an Indo beauty. All the warning signs were there. She was very cold in the pre-session interview; I even asked her if she would rather not go with me but she insisted on proceeding. All the warning signs were there but she was so hot that I threw caution to the wind. In the room my hard-on quickly went south due to the icy and starfish disposition. Service before hotness. Lesson learnt for the umpteenth time.
Are Indonesian WGs the horniest in SEA? After many sessions I cannot give an affirmative response to this question. The Jury is still out. I find that no particular nationality in SEA stands out like the Brazilians do in Latin America. The rule of thumb for me in SEA is to always session with the girl who smiles or otherwise displays friendliness towards you. I have never been disappointed by choosing such a girl in SEA.
With the demise of hobbying in Geylang, Singapore and in China, Jakarta is definitely in a foremost position for my future visits to SEA. I am actually inclined to place Jakarta as my number one destination in SEA as Rio is in Latin America and Frankfurt in Europe.
To quote another senior member: "Without a picture, it didn't happen".
Kind of an idiotic stateent, no? I have known quite a few guys who have been burned by posting pictures of girls on forums such as this one. Moreover, to post pictures of girls from Indonesia of all places, a country that while supporting some level of mongering also has its extreme fundamentalist Muslim side, is really inconsiderate of the girls and their families, unless the picture is posted with informed consent, which you are rarely going to get in Indonesia, or the picture does not include the face or other identifying information, in which case what is the point?
By the way, so long as you are going to pull the "senior member" card, a few years back on a competing website I posted an extensive guide to Sao Paulo that was voted the best guide of the year from any locale by the membership there. It did not include a single picture of a girl, but did include an extensive amount of useful information. Maybe useful information rather than petulant posts such as your current one should be the rule here.
Staying at FX Harris. De Leila seems to have opened up for business to the right side of the mall as you enter. Fancy sign and steps leading downstairs. Is this the same De Leila from Gatot Subroto area which served arabian mongers? I'm being kept busy both in and out of bed by my online dates, hence no time to check out.To answer my own question, yes it's the same club, new location. This is bad news for me as a FX Harris regular. Returning back after late night drinks with my date, I had to run the gauntlet of rows of shouty arab men and ranks of taxis while entering FX. Previously the mall entrance used to be deserted and quiet. I expect the demographic of the guests to change soon, and I will have to find a new base in Jakarta. I personally don't have anything against uncultured arab youth who frequent these types of establishments, but it's a mood killer when you have a classy Indo girl that you have just wined and dined and after a romantic movie outing you have to walk her through this riff raff to get back to your room.
On a side note I will try and scope out what's on offer tonight at De Leila, if time permits.
Member #4716
09-27-15, 10:23
Kind of an idiotic stateent, no? I have known quite a few guys who have been burned by posting pictures of girls on forums such as this one. Moreover, to post pictures of girls from Indonesia of all places, a country that while supporting some level of mongering also has its extreme fundamentalist Muslim side, is really inconsiderate of the girls and their families, unless the picture is posted with informed consent, which you are rarely going to get in Indonesia, or the picture does not include the face or other identifying information, in which case what is the point?
By the way, so long as you are going to pull the "senior member" card, a few years back on a competing website I posted an extensive guide to Sao Paulo that was voted the best guide of the year from any locale by the membership there. It did not include a single picture of a girl, but did include an extensive amount of useful information. Maybe useful information rather than petulant posts such as your current one should be the rule here.I disagree. Korpei's excellent photos give you an accurate idea of the hot girls you can get in Indo. His photos are what persuaded me to go there.
Member #4716
09-27-15, 10:25
Well, I am back home after my three month sojourn to SEA. I have so much to report on that it is overwhelming just contemplating imparting my experiences on this board. My four week stay in Jakarta was one of my best trips ever, comparable to my trips to Rio de Janeiro and FKKs and my 2008 trip to Singapore. I must thank the Jakarta aficionados on this board, especially Natty Bumpo, who more than anything else were responsible for me making this trip from Thailand rather than going elsewhere.
At this time I will give the highlight of my trip and it will surprise many. My greatest sessions were not with the Indonesian cuties but actually with the "imports" at Malioboro. CIS ladies have generally been accused of being cold by punters but that has never really been my experience with them which has mostly been at German FKKs. I got excellent GFE and even PSE (which I don't so much care for) from the Russians, Kazaks and Uzbeks at Malioboro.
My experience is that the Jakarta mamasans are the best mamasans on the planet. They are great fun. On more than one occasion I saw girls fondle the breasts of their mamasans. These mamasans are very playful and on several occasions I got very touchy feely with them prior to making my choice. The best looking mamasan I have ever seen is Uzbek Camilla at Malioboro. She is better looking than most of her girls. She is very clever at deflecting overtures of which I made many. Anyone knows her story? I also sessioned a Mongolian (about 5' 5" without heels) and several absolutely gorgeous Chinese.
I only had one bad session during my four week visit and that was with an Indo beauty. All the warning signs were there. She was very cold in the pre-session interview; I even asked her if she would rather not go with me but she insisted on proceeding. All the warning signs were there but she was so hot that I threw caution to the wind. In the room my hard-on quickly went south due to the icy and starfish disposition. Service before hotness. Lesson learnt for the umpteenth time.
Are Indonesian WGs the horniest in SEA? After many sessions I cannot give an affirmative response to this question. The Jury is still out. I find that no particular nationality in SEA stands out like the Brazilians do in Latin America. The rule of thumb for me in SEA is to always session with the girl who smiles or otherwise displays friendliness towards you. I have never been disappointed by choosing such a girl in SEA.
With the demise of hobbying in Geylang, Singapore and in China, Jakarta is definitely in a foremost position for my future visits to SEA. I am actually inclined to place Jakarta as my number one destination in SEA as Rio is in Latin America and Frankfurt in Europe.Really? How is Frankfurt better than Cologne?
I disagree. Korpei's excellent photos give you an accurate idea of the hot girls you can get in Indo. His photos are what persuaded me to go there.And what exactly did I say that you are you disagreeing with?; it is not at all clear from your post given that after stating you disagree, you then started talking about something not addressed at all in my post.
Member #4410
09-27-15, 12:47
And what exactly did I say that you are you disagreeing with?; it is not at all clear from your post given that after stating you disagree, you then started talking about something not addressed at all in my post.You really are in argumentative mode lately, aren't you? Are there any members left that you don't disagree with?
Sit down, count to ten and think before putting finger to keyboard.
You really are in argumentative mode lately, aren't you? Are there any members left that you don't disagree with?
Sit down, count to ten and think before putting finger to keyboard.I counted to ten, thought about what I was going to say, and that does not change the fact your earlier post, reproduced immediately below, remains patently immature, idiotic and a waste of bandwidth:
"By now it has become quite clear that Eddie maybe travels around the world, but he has never done anything worth reporting in Jakarta, otherwise he would have posted some field reports or, better yet, pictures. To quote another senior member: "Without a picture, it didn't happen". Last December he managed to evade several senior members who volunteered to meet him.
"I think it is best if the serious posters in the Indonesia forum ignore him until he posts something credible."
It is hilarious that after posting such cringe-worthy drivel you would accuse me of being argumentative.
As to my asking Hotmale9833 to clarify what he disagreed with in my post, asking for clarification about what in my post he disagreed with is not being argumentative, contrary to your fantasies.
Tiradentes
09-27-15, 14:20
I am actually inclined to place Jakarta as my number one destination in SEA as Rio is in Latin America and Frankfurt in Europe.1. Rio to Sao Paolo (Brazil) is what Pattaya is to Bangkok in terms of quality and quantity.
2. Frankfurt is so depressing. RLD is full of empty rooms in those 5-6 floors buildings around the station.
The FKK's are populated by mechanical under performer Romanian chicks. Plus the chicks from all nationalities act like used car salesmen (e. g: Finger in the arse?. That's 50 E extra).
I would erase Europe all together from my mongering map. There are plenty of untapped destinations in SE Asia that need to be discovered. A forum like this is helpful.
Member #4410
09-27-15, 16:52
I counted to ten, thought about what I was going to say, and that does not change the fact your earlier post, reproduced immediately below, remains patently immature, idiotic and a waste of bandwidth:
"By now it has become quite clear that Eddie maybe travels around the world, but he has never done anything worth reporting in Jakarta, otherwise he would have posted some field reports or, better yet, pictures. To quote another senior member: "Without a picture, it didn't happen". Last December he managed to evade several senior members who volunteered to meet him.
"I think it is best if the serious posters in the Indonesia forum ignore him until he posts something credible."
It is hilarious that after posting such cringe-worthy drivel you would accuse me of being argumentative.
As to my asking Hotmale9833 to clarify what he disagreed with in my post, asking for clarification about what in my post he disagreed with is not being argumentative, contrary to your fantasies.I wish you a happy and peaceful life, living with yourself 24/7.
Member #4716
09-27-15, 18:40
And what exactly did I say that you are you disagreeing with?; it is not at all clear from your post given that after stating you disagree, you then started talking about something not addressed at all in my post.I think it is a monger's duty to post photos to insure the veracity and the quality of the talent. Bros before hoes!
1. Rio to Sao Paolo (Brazil) is what Pattaya is to Bangkok in terms of quality and quantity.
2. Frankfurt is so depressing. RLD is full of empty rooms in those 5-6 floors buildings around the station.
The FKK's are populated by mechanical under performer Romanian chicks. Plus the chicks from all nationalities act like used car salesmen (e. g: Finger in the arse?. That's 50 E extra).
I would erase Europe all together from my mongering map. There are plenty of untapped destinations in SE Asia that need to be discovered. A forum like this is helpful.It seems that we agree that Brazil rules Latin America.
With respect to Frankfurt I would never, never do the RLD it is a tourist rip off and a complete waste of time. The FKKs are a different story – tons of the hottest WGs on the planet totally nude – the lure is just too great for me. Furthermore, you do get some great action if you choose wisely. The secret is to make a list from the recommendations of posters on ISG. I get bad service when I choose based only on hotness which is my Achilles heel. Besides I have a severe weakness for European broads.
I do agree, however, that SE Asia is a treasure trove of corporeal delights and I do plan in taking an entire year perhaps in 2017 or 2018 to spend travelling through those countries, with particular emphasis on Jakarta.
Blanquiceleste
09-28-15, 01:28
My four week stay in Jakarta was one of my best trips ever,
With the demise of hobbying in Geylang, Singapore In Singapore, its not just Geylang that's dead brother. The market has simply gone awry. The pricing is beyond imagination, the selection and quality of women is poor and the service leaves a lot to be desired. At least this is the story in 80% of your adventures. You may occasionally get lucky but there are no guarantees.
Jakarta is definitely one of the hottest destinations in SEA today for mongering but if you were on the scene in Jakarta around 3 years back you will agree with me that things are changing. And these changes do not augur well for our hobby. Make the most of it while you can and while its available. Good luck!
A friend of mine thinks he's got enough to try his luck with them. I suggested Red Square, X2 and Vertigo. Anymore places?
A friend of mine thinks he's got enough to try his luck with them. I suggested Red Square, X2 and Vertigo. Anymore places?I think both Red Square and Vertigo are closed now. X2 is still popular and a good recommendation. Try Immigrant in Plaza Indonesia, that would be my top recommendation. Also could try Dragonfly (at Graha BIP), Skye (at Menara BCA), Cloud (at Plaza Office Tower), Blowfish (at Wisma Mulia), Buddha Bar (in Menteng and only has a crowd on certain nights).
I think both Red Square and Vertigo are closed now. X2 is still popular and a good recommendation. Try Immigrant in Plaza Indonesia, that would be my top recommendation. Also could try Dragonfly (at Graha BIP), Skye (at Menara BCA), Cloud (at Plaza Office Tower), Blowfish (at Wisma Mulia), Buddha Bar (in Menteng and only has a crowd on certain nights).Thanks for the input. Hope to report on his odyssee.
Blanquiceleste
09-28-15, 11:40
I think both Red Square and Vertigo are closed now. X2 is still popular and a good recommendation. Try Immigrant in Plaza Indonesia, that would be my top recommendation. Also could try Dragonfly (at Graha BIP), Skye (at Menara BCA), Cloud (at Plaza Office Tower), Blowfish (at Wisma Mulia), Buddha Bar (in Menteng and only has a crowd on certain nights).Apart from the very worth recommendations made here I would also include high end restaurants. I have got lucky at Loewy's at Kuningan and Union at Plaza Senayan. The rules remian the same.
1. Dress well, wear a good perfume. The weather in Jakarta sucks but wear a jacket. It really makes an impression.
2. Be polite, make eye contact, smile a lot. Don't be shy.
3. Get a drink and hang loose. Don't get a beer, but get a bottle of wine instead. Easier to call someone over and share.
Good luck!
A friend of mine thinks he's got enough to try his luck with them. I suggested Red Square, X2 and Vertigo. Anymore places?I say the following absolutely without trying to brag but I run in these circles and I hope your friend does not have too high hopes. My steady GF can be considered one of those girls hence I speak from experience, although my experience is with the Chinese-Indonesians.
The seriously wealthy, Hi-so girls will not go out clubbing by themselves and will always be in a group, 50/50 male / female with everyone partnered up, although at times there are slightly more male attendees. Currently the most popular places are Ego (the VIP room of X2), Emperica in SCBD, Colosseum and indeed as mentioned by Smoothy Dragonfly, Skye and Cloud. Private rooms in Sun City, Golden Crown and Colo might also be booked. Prohibition (not the restaurant but the "speakeasy" bar round the back which you enter through a toilet), Cork&Screw and a few other bars around are at times quite popular too. The groups will nearly always have at least 1 sofa and multiple bottles of liquor, vodka for the ladies and whiskey / cognac for the men. You will not find girls like this standing at the bar with a few friends. The entire group comes together and leaves together; at all times. They will never allow any girls to leave with someone she has just met. Better yet, most of the girls will not even talk to a guy when you don't have any mutual friends! (And I don't mean Facebook friends, you must be physically introduced). To make things even more interesting, the majority of these girls are educated abroad, quite religious, are actually virgins and would never give it up before marriage.
Remember that the guys these girls are usually hanging out with come from extremely wealthy backgrounds, an average night out can easily reach 60/70 million and they won't even batter an eyelid. They'll get in their Ferrari's or Lamborghini's and drive home to repeat it all tomorrow. In these circles women never pay, anything. One guy pays the bill first and a few days later gets split amongst all men attending. You are however expected to mention to the one who is paying to "deal you in". If you don't you are considered a cheapskate. For a good night out I am usually 10 to 15 million out of pocket. Although the way these guys work is that it pays itself back in the business they all give each other.
Be mid 30's max, have a decent job and actually live IN Jakarta, own a decent car, live in a house or a very proper apartment. The girls look a gentleman who is highly intelligent. Don't be a show-off with material things as unless you are a USD millionaire in your own right you will always lose from your competition but definitely do not be cheap. The absolute best way you can meet these girls are through the right work colleagues or business partners, look for highly educated and youngish Chinese guys in senior positions.
Best of luck to your buddy and everyone else who is going to give it a shot but don't take the challenge lightly.
Tuesday night. I know many of you think it's too $$, but for me, the quality of establishment and service make it perfectly worthwhile. Spent time at the spa / hotel with a lithe Indonesian beauty who apparently had only been working for a few days -- all action was covered, which is fine with me, with all manners of positions, plus a nice massage afterward. Then going down to 4 Play club to relax with a drink and watch the dancing girls. Including the spa / hotel session, drinks for both of us, and then drinks at 4 Play I think I walked out spending about 3 mil IDR. Not a cheap evening, but top quality.
One thing though: at 4 Play, I had heard of girls coming up aggressively for "drinks" and then pushing private dances hard. I was actually left in total peace the whole time there -- I would even have liked a little someone to come up to me! Is it different on different nights? Or have things moved there to a system where you have to request private dances, etc?
I say the following absolutely without trying to brag but I run in these circles and I hope your friend does not have too high hopes. My steady GF can be considered one of those girls hence I speak from experience, although my experience is with the Chinese-Indonesians.
The seriously wealthy, Hi-so girls will not go out clubbing by themselves and will always be in a group, 50/50 male / female with everyone partnered up, although at times there are slightly more male attendees. Currently the most popular places are Ego (the VIP room of X2), Emperica in SCBD, Colosseum and indeed as mentioned by Smoothy Dragonfly, Skye and Cloud. Private rooms in Sun City, Golden Crown and Colo might also be booked. Prohibition (not the restaurant but the "speakeasy" bar round the back which you enter through a toilet), Cork&Screw and a few other bars around are at times quite popular too. The groups will nearly always have at least 1 sofa and multiple bottles of liquor, vodka for the ladies and whiskey / cognac for the men. You will not find girls like this standing at the bar with a few friends. The entire group comes together and leaves together; at all times. They will never allow any girls to leave with someone she has just met. Better yet, most of the girls will not even talk to a guy when you don't have any mutual friends! (And I don't mean Facebook friends, you must be physically introduced). To make things even more interesting, the majority of these girls are educated abroad, quite religious, are actually virgins and would never give it up before marriage.
Remember that the guys these girls are usually hanging out with come from extremely wealthy backgrounds, an average night out can easily reach 60/70 million and they won't even batter an eyelid. They'll get in their Ferrari's or Lamborghini's and drive home to repeat it all tomorrow. In these circles women never pay, anything. One guy pays the bill first and a few days later gets split amongst all men attending. You are however expected to mention to the one who is paying to "deal you in". If you don't you are considered a cheapskate. For a good night out I am usually 10 to 15 million out of pocket. Although the way these guys work is that it pays itself back in the business they all give each other.
Be mid 30's max, have a decent job and actually live IN Jakarta, own a decent car, live in a house or a very proper apartment. The girls look a gentleman who is highly intelligent. Don't be a show-off with material things as unless you are a USD millionaire in your own right you will always lose from your competition but definitely do not be cheap. The absolute best way you can meet these girls are through the right work colleagues or business partners, look for highly educated and youngish Chinese guys in senior positions.
Best of luck to your buddy and everyone else who is going to give it a shot but don't take the challenge lightly.Great post, it's nice to know how the other half (1% perhaps) live.
I think I'll stick to my hard-up students hanging out in Ambassador Mall, it works out a lot cheaper and at the end of the day, you are just getting the same damn thing.
Undercoverh
09-29-15, 05:26
Short post due to getting back at 3: OO am last night. Jakarta is one of the last cities I know of in Asia that allow girls to dance fully nude. If you gents know of other Asian cities, feel free to provide feed back. I went to 3 different fully nude clubs last night. Most clubs start with nude dancers between 9 pm to midnight. For details and which clubs go full nude, check out "Jakarta 100 Bars" website, which has excellent info.
I had fun at Tease Strip Club and also at Classic. At a Classic, full nude starts around 10:30 pm or 11:00 pm, the time will change depending on how long the live band plays.
Nice way to recharge my sexual power by seeing 8 fully nude Indo young cute girls dancing in the stage. And, for shots, they will provide lap dance and you can touch, not like in the U.S. Also, they are available for sex. Nice way to fully see the body before u select your girl. If I get a lap dance, I always take her to the back of the club where it is dark so you have more freedom to touch. Also, be clear about the cost of shots and how many for lap dances. This will depend on the club. Depending 8n the girl and where u are at in the club, gently touching her p_ssy is allowed and touching her ass and tits. At least I have been able to do this. Again, it depends on the girl, club, and how many shots u are buying. I will force myself to hit the weight room and pool this morning so I can be ready for another night of Indo p_ssy!
Thanks for the responses.
HHster, now you make me wonder where he has to look for the non-Chinese ones.
Short post due to getting back at 3: OO am last night. Jakarta is one of the last cities I know of in Asia that allow girls to dance fully nude. If you gents know of other Asian cities, feel free to provide feed back. I went to 3 different fully nude clubs last night. Most clubs start with nude dancers between 9 pm to midnight. For details and which clubs go full nude, check out "Jakarta 100 Bars" website, which has excellent info.
I had fun at Tease Strip Club and also at Classic. At a Classic, full nude starts around 10:30 pm or 11:00 pm, the time will change depending on how long the live band plays.
Nice way to recharge my sexual power by seeing 8 fully nude Indo young cute girls dancing in the stage. And, for shots, they will provide lap dance and you can touch, not like in the U.S. Also, they are available for sex. Nice way to fully see the body before u select your girl. If I get a lap dance, I always take her to the back of the club where it is dark so you have more freedom to touch. Also, be clear about the cost of shots and how many for lap dances. This will depend on the club. Depending 8n the girl and where u are at in the club, gently touching her p_ssy is allowed and touching her ass and tits. At least I have been able to do this. Again, it depends on the girl, club, and how many shots u are buying. I will force myself to hit the weight room and pool this morning so I can be ready for another night of Indo p_ssy!Don't you live in Bangkok? Your post makes it sound like finding naked girls dancing in Asia is a new experience. They absolutely have that in Bangkok. Go to Soi Cowboy. I was just there recently and went to Long Gun (Lucky Star) and Rawhide bars. Both have completely naked girls dancing. And they don't just dance, they put on excellent shows naked as well! If you buy them one drink every half hour or hour or so (not a shot every minute like you have to do in Classic), you can have them sit on your lap naked and feel them up to your heart's content. They will bounce up and down naked on your boner while you play with their tits and fondle their body and watch the naked girls show. It's good fun. And of course you can bar fine the girl and take her back to your hotel or a short time room for sex if you like.
IllusionHeart
09-29-15, 15:43
Don't you live in Bangkok? Your post makes it sound like finding naked girls dancing in Asia is a new experience. They absolutely have that in Bangkok. Go to Soi Cowboy. I was just there recently and went to Long Gun (Lucky Star) and Rawhide bars. Both have completely naked girls dancing. And they don't just dance, they put on excellent shows naked as well! If you buy them one drink every half hour or hour or so (not a shot every minute like you have to do in Classic), you can have them sit on your lap naked and feel them up to your heart's content. They will bounce up and down naked on your boner while you play with their tits and fondle their body and watch the naked girls show. It's good fun. And of course you can bar fine the girl and take her back to your hotel or a short time room for sex if you like.To add to the list. Angelwitch in Nana and Suzie wong or Baccara in Soi cowboy also have nude shows. And girls can be bfined as well for ST or LT. So Jakarta is definitely not the only city.
1. Rio to Sao Paolo (Brazil) is what Pattaya is to Bangkok in terms of quality and quantity.
2. Frankfurt is so depressing. RLD is full of empty rooms in those 5-6 floors buildings around the station.
The FKK's are populated by mechanical under performer Romanian chicks. Plus the chicks from all nationalities act like used car salesmen (e. g: Finger in the arse?. That's 50 E extra).
I would erase Europe all together from my mongering map. There are plenty of untapped destinations in SE Asia that need to be discovered. A forum like this is helpful.I think you are too harsh on Europe. I go to the FKKs in Germany, every year for my once-a-year Caucasian treat. I always had a good time there. I was there last in August, met 3 Italians, 2 Romanians, and 2 Russians.
I fell in love with one of the Italians, the Romanians provided decent service, and the Russian girls were ripoff. Overall, I had a great time there, as usual.
IMO, Rio is no longer the Pattaya of South America. The action now is in San Paulo, or even Colombia, my new favorite playground in South America.
Undercoverh
09-29-15, 16:09
To add to the list. Angelwitch in Nana and Suzie wong or Baccara in Soi cowboy also have nude shows. And girls can be bfined as well for ST or LT. So Jakarta is definitely not the only city.You are both correct about these clubs in BK. To clarify or better state my comments in my previous post, I do not know of any Asian country that has as many fully nude clubs as Jakarta. I have been to at least 10 in Jakarta, and I understand there are more, that I have yet to visit.
Blanquiceleste
09-30-15, 02:02
I say the following absolutely without trying to brag but I run in these circles and I hope your friend does not have too high hopes.
Best of luck to your buddy and everyone else who is going to give it a shot but don't take the challenge lightly.Fantastic post, highly insightful and informative as well.
You are both correct about these clubs in BK. To clarify or better state my comments in my previous post, I do not know of any Asian country that has as many fully nude clubs as Jakarta. I have been to at least 10 in Jakarta, and I understand there are more, that I have yet to visit.Yes, there are more than 10 places that have nude dancing. Most of them are smaller places and only have about 4 to 6 dancers. In Jakarta though, the nude dancers are often only dancing in each club for about a half hour, then they disappear to another club to dance naked there as well. The nude dancers are not always available to take upstairs. As a matter of fact, it's the exception to have that option rather than the norm (depending on the club). And if you are allowed to take them, they are more expensive than the other girls.
In Bangkok, the nude dancers can be taken to your hotel and shagged pretty much without exception, it's those ridiculous Coyote girls in the tight shorts who cannot. And the places in Bangkok will have over 30 nude dancers in each place.
Malioboro has full time hired dancers, but they do not dance completely naked anymore as far as I am aware (although I haven't been there in months, and it goes in cycles, sometimes they are naked sometimes they are not. Sometimes they are only topless. Sometimes they dance in bikinis. Sometimes they dance fully clothed or there are no dancers at all, depending on how strict the police are at that time.) The naked dancers at Hotel Classic only dance at certain times, and if it's a Friday or Saturday night, it's so damn crowded in there, I can't even see them or get near them. I avoid Classic (and all of the other places with a small cover charge that have nude dancers) on weekend nights. I remember when Golden Crown first starting having topless dancers, I thought that was a great idea. Until I went there and there were thousands of locals packed into the room to watch 4 topless dancers who barely even moved their bodies to the music.
I like to look at the nude dancers in Jakarta. But for one on one fun with naked girls, I think Bangkok is far superior. Philippines has plenty of action as well. I even like the down market Beijing, China karaoke places because the girls will get naked in the rooms there, dancing, singing dirty songs and playing naughty games in the room, then you can take them home after the karaoke if you want. Bengkel Cafe in Jakarta used to have naked dancer karaoke girls as well, but I think that is no more. Those Bengkel Cafe girls wanted to spend most of the time in the karaoke room trying to give nude lap dances for 50 k per song anyway (like at Malio or Classic), or a shag in the toilet for extra money. They weren't really interested in going home with the clients. Regardless, it is always nice to look at naked girls even if you can't take them home to your place. Even in the USA strip clubs it's nice. If you consider Guam to be an Asian country, it has lots of nude strip clubs due to US military being there.
Undercoverh
10-02-15, 03:05
Yes, there are more than 10 places that have nude dancing. Most of them are smaller places and only have about 4 to 6 dancers. In Jakarta though, the nude dancers are often only dancing in each club for about a half hour, then they disappear to another club to dance naked there as well. The nude dancers are not always available to take upstairs. As a matter of fact, it's the exception to have that option rather than the norm (depending on the club). And if you are allowed to take them, they are more expensive than the other girls.
In Bangkok, the nude dancers can be taken to your hotel and shagged pretty much without exception, it's those ridiculous Coyote girls in the tight shorts who cannot. And the places in Bangkok will have over 30 nude dancers in each place.
Malioboro has full time hired dancers, but they do not dance completely naked anymore as far as I am aware (although I haven't been there in months, and it goes in cycles, sometimes they are naked sometimes they are not. Sometimes they are only topless. Sometimes they dance in bikinis. Sometimes they dance fully clothed or there are no dancers at all, depending on how strict the police are at that time.) The naked dancers at Hotel Classic only dance at certain times, and if it's a Friday or Saturday night, it's so damn crowded in there, I can't even see them or get near them. I avoid Classic (and all of the other places with a small cover charge that have nude dancers) on weekend nights. I remember when Golden Crown first starting having topless dancers, I thought that was a great idea. Until I went there and there were thousands of locals packed into the room to watch 4 topless dancers who barely even moved their bodies to the music.
I like to look at the nude dancers in Jakarta. But for one on one fun with naked girls, I think Bangkok is far superior. Philippines has plenty of action as well. I even like the down market Beijing, China karaoke places because the girls will get naked in the rooms there, dancing, singing dirty songs and playing naughty games in the room, then you can take them home after the karaoke if you want. Bengkel Cafe in Jakarta used to have naked dancer karaoke girls as well, but I think that is no more. Those Bengkel Cafe girls wanted to spend most of the time in the karaoke room trying to give nude lap dances for 50 k per song anyway (like at Malio or Classic), or a shag in the toilet for extra money. They weren't really interested in going home with the clients. Regardless, it is always nice to look at naked girls even if you can't take them home to your place. Even in the USA strip clubs it's nice. If you consider Guam to be an Asian country, it has lots of nude strip clubs due to US military being there.I generally agree with your comments. However, for me, I have been having fun in Jakarta's strip clubs. Others may find Bk overall experience more enjoyable (e. G. , more sex for sell everywhere in Bk compared to Jakarta). As for Guam, I spent a short time there during my Marine Corps days when I was a young man. Guam is like the USA, as far as I am concerned. Bars and clubs, but prices are high and FS is not out in the open like it is in BK. In fact, my brothers-in-arms would head over to the Philippines for R&R at Subic Bay.
Malioboro has full time hired dancers, but they do not dance completely naked anymore as far as I am aware (although I haven't been there in months, and it goes in cycles, sometimes they are naked sometimes they are not. Sometimes they are only topless. Sometimes they dance in bikinis. Sometimes they dance fully clothed or there are no dancers at all, depending on how strict the police are at that time.) Malio club (behind Malioboro) has never stopped having nude dancers. Its an old fav of mine for overseas visitors and I have never once been there when there hasn't been nude dancers. Just remember I am talking Malio not Maliboro. You got to walk down the Maliboro driveway, past the $hit tanker that seems to be permanently parked there and into a door on the right.
My two cents.
my brothers-in-arms would head over to the Philippines for R&R at Subic Bay.Smart move. The Philippines are an excellent place for that kind of entertainment.
Malio club (behind Malioboro) has never stopped having nude dancers. Its an old fav of mine for overseas visitors and I have never once been there when there hasn't been nude dancers. Just remember I am talking Malio not Maliboro. You got to walk down the Maliboro driveway, past the $hit tanker that seems to be permanently parked there and into a door on the right.
My two cents.I've honestly never tried that place. I always enjoy myself in Malioboro so much that I have never made it back there. I'll have to give it a try sometime. Not for the nude dancers because that's not my highest priority. After experiencing strip clubs in the USA, nude dancers in Asia are a big let down. (Nude dancers are the only advantage the USA has over Asia.) But I'd like to check out that Malio Club just to see what it's like. Years ago someone told me it was similar to the club at Medika. That place at Medika is a waste of time (too dark to see anything), but if there are nude dancers, Malio club can't be as dark as Medika. I couldn't see one foot in front of my face in Medika.
Undercoverh
10-02-15, 04:43
Malio club (behind Malioboro) has never stopped having nude dancers. Its an old fav of mine for overseas visitors and I have never once been there when there hasn't been nude dancers. Just remember I am talking Malio not Maliboro. You got to walk down the Maliboro driveway, past the $hit tanker that seems to be permanently parked there and into a door on the right.
My two cents.Your two cents has is much more valuable. Malio is my fav club in Jakarta. Many guys go to Malioboro and not realize there is a different club full of naked young Indo women called Malio. These girls have sexy nice big ass and tits. I get an hard on just looking at them. I will be going tomorrow late night. The times I have been there, always nude.
Sunday is supposed to be ladies night at BATS, but the scene was average. About 1:1 punter: hooker ratio. The Carlsberg sales girls there are pretty and gorgeous. They walk around in black knee length dresses. It was a treat to watch them.
After hanging around for a couple of hours, moved on to CJ's at Mulia. Much better! The crowd was thin but the hookers outnumbered the punters many times over. Had my eye on a sweet next door neighbor type girl who would not return my eye contact (or anyone else's). Made small talk with 3-4 girls who approached me and wanted to go back with me. They were not my type but I did not want to return empty handed on my last night. Towards closing time I hooked up with this tall Toyota sales girl Sara with a latina butt. Negotiated 1. 5 M for "however long you want me to stay". Drove off in her brand new Toyota. She spoke about big assed Moroccan girls who frequent De Leila. This was news to me and I said I wanted to have a look. But first lets got to Blok M for drinks she said. Went to Dees place, had a couple of drinks. Were treated like a VIP by the staff there (I suspect this girl graduated from Blok M). It being a Monday night the talent was exceptionally good, and punters none. Returned to my hotel Harris FX at around 4 am. Lots of shouty Arabs and fat Indo hookers in the basement parking. Looks like FX security has to bear the brunt of De Leila moving here. Got the parking ticket validated at reception and went out the front to De Leila. Unfortunately it was closing time. So we back tracked and ended up in bed doing the usual horizontal olypmics. She was worth the money spent in terms of satisfaction returned. Repeated once again at 11 am, booted her out and packed to be ready in time for check-out.
IllusionHeart
10-02-15, 14:21
Malio club (behind Malioboro) has never stopped having nude dancers. Its an old fav of mine for overseas visitors and I have never once been there when there hasn't been nude dancers. Just remember I am talking Malio not Maliboro. You got to walk down the Maliboro driveway, past the $hit tanker that seems to be permanently parked there and into a door on the right.
My two cents.MasBule, Have you ever had any luck with a girl from Malio club indoor or outside? I really liked the girls there and do plan to return in near future. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
Fast Eddie 48
10-02-15, 22:53
A friend of mine thinks he's got enough to try his luck with them. I suggested Red Square, X2 and Vertigo. Anymore places?To the mouth.
Are you for real or just out dated next time we meet I will put my foot in your yak mouth then you and old man ko will know I am real.
Fast eddie 48.
Was in Jakarta last week and stayed at the Shang. From my prior trips I have never been that impressed with BATS, so decided to try my luck with wechat. I was lucky on a prior trip where a guy sent me a girl who had an amazing command of English (yep was an English teacher), but silly me forgot to bring her number. So fired up wechat and within minutes had 10-20 hellos from people asking whether I wanted a massage. I usually say that I'm looking to hang out with someone, then they respond with massage plus sex for 800. For those who don't like classic or travel, while the girl neve looks like the picture sent, you do get a full 2 hours for 800 so it's not that bad of a deal if you get a good draw. So in my case I tried two places (usually a papa is chatting with you) and I had one chubby girl who was wild and BBBJ the moment she entered my room and one shy who needed to warm up but then did whatever I asked. Again, the benefit of the brothels is that you see what you get, but service is completely unknown. I've found the outcall massage scene to be much better service but the girl isn't that pretty. Most places I have found who say no ++ do provide it, you just have to make them go for the first move. Since I booked one for LT for the hell of it, asked about the system. In her case, papa calls up some girls he knows once he gets a ping. The interesting thing is that it's like a network, my girl in her free time (while I was recovering), would get some more pings, she responds as if she will go but then calling a friend to give the 'massage'. She had a album full of normal to cute looking girls that she uses to get the booking, but of course none of the girls actually exists in the stable or group of friends. So we chatted about the business and how much of the cut she gets, etc. All very interesting for a mere 1. 5 for a full night too. The shy one I have her direct contact so will likely go for again when I am back, but I find this scene is much better in terms of value for money vs the brothels. Ymmv.
MasBule, Have you ever had any luck with a girl from Malio club indoor or outside? I really liked the girls there and do plan to return in near future. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.Mate I haven't taken any outside, and haven't tried to be honest. But a handsome young buddy of mine got a phone number off one of the lap dancer girls. But that was a case of she REALLY liked him, he didn't even ask for it.
It seemed she wasn't on any contract to the club nor locked-up afterwork hours, and she had daytimes free.
Got to remember these are the hottest nude dancers in the city. So they might be hard to take home or damn expensive.
Someone told me the girls from FOREPLAY are something like 2 m for takeaway.
NewHouses2010
10-03-15, 21:16
Hi fellow mongers,
I will be in Jakarta for 2 weeks in November and RTFF the last 20 pages. I am just wondering if few senior members have time to go mongering with me during my stay in Jakarta.
Last year, I went to Jakarta in October and only went to Velvet Spa, Famous Spa and Montecarlo Spa that are all in West Jakarta.
I am looking forward to try Malioboro Club, Emporium Spa and any other good spa around Jakarta.
I am originally from Jakarta but been living in the US for the past 12 years.
Cheers
IllusionHeart
10-04-15, 07:12
Mate I haven't taken any outside, and haven't tried to be honest. But a handsome young buddy of mine got a phone number off one of the lap dancer girls. But that was a case of she REALLY liked him, he didn't even ask for it.
It seemed she wasn't on any contract to the club nor locked-up afterwork hours, and she had daytimes free.
Got to remember these are the hottest nude dancers in the city. So they might be hard to take home or damn expensive.
Someone told me the girls from FOREPLAY are something like 2 m for takeaway.Indeed these are some of the hottest girls I have seen in Jakarta hence the keen interest. I don't mind being expensive upto a certain extent like 5 mn but anything above this is not worth it. From what I have been reading is that it is simply too hard or the girls just don't want to do it for various reasons (Ample salary, need only extra money for univ education, saving virginity for marriage, etc).
Never heard or read about Foreplay. Do share some more details.
Never heard or read about Foreplay. Do share some more details.Yes it doesn't get much airplay on this forum. Its actually called 4 Play and is on the entry level at Alexis. Like a Malio club but the stage isn't as high up. Seems more Chinese there than Malio and definitely lots of groups of rich friends drinking bottles. Its famous for its silhouette dancers behind the bar, where 2 girls are nude and pretending to have sex.
Its a very very nice intro to the 7th floor, when your mood changes.
IllusionHeart
10-05-15, 04:20
Yes it doesn't get much airplay on this forum. Its actually called 4 Play and is on the entry level at Alexis. Like a Malio club but the stage isn't as high up. Seems more Chinese there than Malio and definitely lots of groups of rich friends drinking bottles. Its famous for its silhouette dancers behind the bar, where 2 girls are nude and pretending to have sex.
Its a very very nice intro to the 7th floor, when your mood changes.I remember now. As my visits to Alexis were before 7 pm the club was closed. I think it actually starts getting crowd 9 pm onwards but that would be the peak time and less choice of girls for me on the 7th floor. 555.
However if the timing matches I sure will peek in on my next visit.
Hi guys,
First time visit to Jakarta this Oct 21. Will be staying in Fairmont Hotel.
Can anyone suggest good spas, etc etc. Any good action nearby?
Cheers.
Was it really only a week ago I wrote this?
I would stick to Jakarta, it's your safest bet, for now, although I wouldn't be so confident of saying that in five or ten years' time.Thinking that Jakarta would remain a fun town for at least another five years appears now to be wildly optimistic. First they come for your beer, then they come for your nightclubs. Then what will be left?
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/10/02/nightclubs-will-close-midnight-city-official.html
Enjoy it while you can gentlemen. The straws in the wind are now a veritable hurricane.
Was it really only a week ago I wrote this?
Thinking that Jakarta would remain a fun town for at least another five years appears now to be wildly optimistic. First they come for your beer, then they come for your nightclubs. Then what will be left?
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/10/02/nightclubs-will-close-midnight-city-official.html
Enjoy it while you can gentlemen. The straws in the wind are now a veritable hurricane.Maybe there's a bright side to it: action will start earlier. Good for old people like me (grin).
AmitGautam
10-06-15, 17:02
Requesting mongers at Jakarta to help me with my stay at Mercure Sabang from day after tomorrow. How to get a good bang there?
John Aldrich
10-06-15, 17:43
Requesting mongers at Jakarta to help me with my stay at Mercure Sabang from day after tomorrow. How to get a good bang there?Mercure Sabang is in Thamrin area. You could either go to Hayam Wuruk area and find the massage parlours. Or you could go to Hotel Classic. If you are game for some high priced rendezvous, you could go to Malioboro. Or you could venture to Hotel Melawai in Blok M. Go to the 6th floor, Maribaya Bar. In all these places, it would be in house humping. If you want to take a girl to your room, then, you could go to Hotel Aryaduta, which is just about a kilometer away. Go down to Tavern bar in the basement and you could find free lancers there. You could also go to BATS at Hotel Shangrila or CJ's at Hotel Mulia. You could even try Tigah Puluh at LE Meridien, though the number and of girls would be very less and also the quality is deteriorated. Sometimes, you could be lucky. In all these places, you need to ensure that you wear shoes and pants. Entry without shoes or / and with shorts will not be allowed. You could also go to Hotel Menteng 2. It's called Menteng dua. They have a bar called Tigah Kudah. Though, it caters mostly to Arab guys, you will find some stunners there. The hotel has a facility to hire short time rooms for doing the deed. You could also walk down to De Leila, which has now shifted to FX, which is the annexe of Plaza Indonesia. Though DL caters to Arab clientele, you could find girls there, whom you could take to your room.
I hope to travel to India and to New Delhi soon. Looking forward to your help to find my way to mongering places. Hope you will be able to give some leads.
Have fun Amit.
Cheers.
You could also walk down to De Leila, which has now shifted to FX, which is the annexe of Plaza Indonesia. It's not annexed to PI. It's a 7 KM drive away (a. K. a forever in Jakarta traffic).
Master Diver II
10-07-15, 09:30
You could also go to Hotel Menteng 2. It's called Menteng dua. They have a bar called Tigah Kudah. Though, it caters mostly to Arab guys, you will find some stunners there. The hotel has a facility to hire short time rooms for doing the deed. You could also walk down to De Leila, which has now shifted to FX, which is the annexe of Plaza Indonesia. Though DL caters to Arab clientele, you could find girls there, whom you could take to your room.
Cheers.
It's not annexed to PI. It's a 7 KM drive away (a. K. a forever in Jakarta traffic).That would be Tiga Kuda which means three horses; some of the local girls call it Three Horse (note the singular). FX is its own mall and not EX which is attached to PI. FX is in the Senayan area very close to Century Park Hotel and Arcadia Senayan (where Red Square used to be). It's mainly a mall of restaurants and cafes, which I find useful as a meeting place for dates.
While it is a few kilometers away from PI, I doubt it's 7 km. Besides that distance is irrelevant during club times as the traffic is much lighter late at night, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. You'll be affected only if you're meeting people during the daytime and evening.
MD II.
John Aldrich
10-07-15, 12:01
It's not annexed to PI. It's a 7 KM drive away (a. K. a forever in Jakarta traffic).Oops. I got mixed up. Thanks for correcting.
Oops. I got mixed up. Thanks for correcting.You are partly correct in that Fx, although not exactly an annexe of PI, is owned by the owner of the PI.
PStevens999
10-08-15, 15:47
I was in Indonesia for a couple of weeks on a dive trip--spent a few of those days in Jakarta. The last night in Jakarta was Wednesday night. Relying on Natty Bumpo's awesome reports, decided to check out ladies night at CJ's bar at the Mulia hotel.
I personally have never seen anything of this magnitude. Arrived around 10:00 PM. The place was absolutely packed with Freelancers--and not that many punters. The ratio must have been at 5 or 6 to one. Most of the girls are standing in the aisles.
There are some booths in the back that were mostly empty when I arrived. They had a nice band with a good female lead singer. Although there were quite a few older and fatter chicks that I would not fuck if they paid me, the overall quality was very good.
I wandered around looking for that tell tale smile and eye contact from a cute young thang--after a couple of false starts --I got a good vibe from a very attractive girl from Bandung. She was there with her friend--both of whom had small kids.
While their English was not that great (and I know some very basic Bahasa) --we had no problem communicating. I bought them both a couple of drinks--lots of playful kissing--ass squeezing--and crotch grabbing.
After more than an hour, we got down to the financial details-- they wanted me to take both of them and I'm sure I could have separated the one I oreferrred for a one on one--but we were having such a good time as a threesome--I decided to take on both of them.
The problem was that they both wanted 2 million rupiah. 4 million (just about $280 US) is rather steep for a night out in Jakarta--but it was after midnight--my last night in town--and I just didn't want to ruin the vibe and maybe start lover.
So I went for the 2 million each-back to the hotel-for an absolutely great night of fucking and sucking. Both of these girls were really horny-only negative was that one still had some belly fat from the baby--but attitude made up the difference.
I am sure that those willing to spend more time and hang until later in the evening--can do better than 2 million--but I just can't hang until 3 AM and then go back to the room for any serious fucking.
Anyone in Jakarta on Wednesday night should absolutely go to CJ's.
I was kind of glad to get out of Jakarta--the air was the worst--fires in Indonesia--has resulted in horrible smoke and smog in the city.
So I went for the 2 million each-back to the hotel-for an absolutely great night of fucking and sucking. Both of these girls were really horny-only negative was that one still had some belly fat from the baby--but attitude made up the difference.2 million is what the top stunners get. You likely overpaid, but as long as the experience was good, that's all that matters. One thing about overpaying the girls is that they will normally be hornier. They were likely so excited about getting 2 million rupiah each, they were probably wet before they even left the bar.
There was a chick in CJs the last time I went who was unbelievably stunning. It's rare I ever see a girl that hot in there. She was tall and looked to perhaps be Colombian. She was busy with another guy that night, but I'd love to get a shot with her. She was seated across from me and I watched her negotiate with the guy that night. I'm guessing she was asking for even more than 2 million given the reaction of the guy. But he went for it. I was hoping he would walk away, but he didn't...
I'm glad that fellow had a good time at CJs, but succumbing to their outrageous prices just spoils the market and justifies their high asking prices in their minds.
"If one guy paid me 2 Juta, that's what I am worth and I shouldn't accept less".
For me, I try do the negotiation earlier in the interaction before feelings of attachment are cemented. If they are out to lunch with their prices, I move on. Sometimes they counter, sometimes they let you go away. Either way, I don't mess around.
I've only seen 2-3 gals ever at CJs in 5 visits I think are worth 2 Juta. Most would top out at 1. 5 Juta, and many I get for 1 Juta and even 700 k close to closing time. The prices should also be lower on Weds ladies night as they don't need to pay entry fees to go in.
I've only seen 2-3 gals ever at CJs in 5 visits I think are worth 2 Juta. Most would top out at 1. 5 Juta, and many I get for 1 Juta and even 700 k close to closing time. The prices should also be lower on Weds ladies night as they don't need to pay entry fees to go in.I agree with that. And prices on ladies night are definitely lower than any other night. The competition that night is fierce. But some of the stunners refuse to go to CJs on ladies night because they don't want to drop their price. That tall stunner I saw the last time I was there was not there on ladies night.
Does anybody know where to buy Hard liquor in Jakarta?
As you may have heard, sale of Alcohol banned in all mini-mart, like 7-11 and Indomaret
Preferably in North? Any idea as to average cost? Whisky, Vodka, Tequila all fine.
I'm planning on hosting a party and bringing females, want to budget accordingly.
Also heard there was alcohol tax hike in July, so maybe going to bars / clubs getting pricey to drink. I may actually save money this way. Ha ha ha.
Does anybody know where to buy Hard liquor in Jakarta?
I'll send you a PM, got some good connections - but due to LE watching this forum best not publish it.
Hi guys,
Will be staying in Fairmont Hotel.
Any good action nearby?
Your comment 'nearby' leads me to state;.
- CJ's bar in the Mulia is close for WG's.
- Not alot of spas exactly at Senayan. Best bet would be the ruko Grand Wijaya for fortune / delta / myplace / cherry / etc etc etc. Just past BlokM, RTFF for more info.
Also, BlokM is closeby. But do your RTFF on that, as its an acquired taste.
I'd recommend negotiating price with girls at CJ's before you tell them where your staying, once they know your in the one of the most expensive hotels in town. You might be up for a premium.
I would also ask ANYONE requesting info from forum members give some info about themselves. This helps narrow it down a bit. Ie. Whats your age range, what's your budget, got any kinks, do you like your FJoints nasty and dirty, do you want an expat bar with WG's, want a seedy spa with curtains for doors. Or top shelf with import girls from Uzbekistan. Etc etc.
John Aldrich
10-09-15, 15:03
Does anybody know where to buy Hard liquor in Jakarta?
As you may have heard, sale of Alcohol banned in all mini-mart, like 7-11 and Indomaret
Preferably in North? Any idea as to average cost? Whisky, Vodka, Tequila all fine.
I'm planning on hosting a party and bringing females, want to budget accordingly.
Also heard there was alcohol tax hike in July, so maybe going to bars / clubs getting pricey to drink. I may actually save money this way. Ha ha ha.Just log into Jakarta comedy club website. They also have a service, wherein they sell hard liquor and will also give door delivery. The contact numbers and the various brands available are in the website including the contact details. In case it's been removed recently on account and of a program which they are planning shortly, just contact them on the contact number given. I have found their prices to be lower than what is available in the various liquor stores. Getting door delivery will save you on transport cost, apart from being assured of original liquor. I have recently found quite a few instances of having got fake liquor, especially when I bought black label, jack Daniel and Bacardi light. But JCC sells authentic liquor.
Does anybody know where to buy Hard liquor in Jakarta?
As you may have heard, sale of Alcohol banned in all mini-mart, like 7-11 and Indomaret
Preferably in North? Any idea as to average cost? Whisky, Vodka, Tequila all fine.
IFYI. Most of the large supermarkets in the modern malls have spirits.
Just last night I was wondering around PI, and stumbled upon the alcohol section in the foodhall.
The Gin's, Vodkas and Tequilas were all in the 800 k range.
Does anybody know where to buy Hard liquor in Jakarta?
As you may have heard, sale of Alcohol banned in all mini-mart, like 7-11 and Indomaret
Preferably in North? Any idea as to average cost? Whisky, Vodka, Tequila all fine.
I'm planning on hosting a party and bringing females, want to budget accordingly.
Also heard there was alcohol tax hike in July, so maybe going to bars / clubs getting pricey to drink. I may actually save money this way. Ha ha ha.Assuming it is still there (it was a few months ago), there is a liquor store in the basement of the Intercontinental Hotel that has pretty good prices at least for Jakarta. As you go down the escalator or steps, there is a Japanese restaurant (quite good) to the right, but you need to go left instead and go to the end of the hall at which point you will see the liquor store.
Downside is it is not in North Jakarta, more like central, so you would have to travel a bit.
Does anybody know where to buy Hard liquor in Jakarta?
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If you are flying in to CGK you can bring plenty wrapped up in your checked luggage.
I get my top ups (gordons gin for my gin pahits) from the Indian retailers in Pasar Baru (which seems north by todays standards) and in walking distance of the over-rated dump called Classic Hotel. There is one place that oddly functions as a pharmacy and liquor store. When I commented to the store manager I had never seen whisky and the morning-after-pill being sold together, he replied "sorry not for you sir, we are regulated, how about whisky and cialis for you".
If you are flying in to CGK you can bring plenty wrapped up in your checked luggage.mI thought the limit was 1 L bottle only? Have you sucessfully smuggled more?
Not sure if I am willing to risk bringing more than that, you risk a fine, duties, or confiscation.
WrinkleFree
10-14-15, 04:33
My first time to Jakarta and stayed 5 days / 4 nights at the Grand Mecure Harmoni. I work in Taiwan so it was a 5 5 HR flight. With limited time and not much patience I didn't check out the FL scene at Blok M, CJs / BATS, clubs, ect.
Classic (2nd floor) Day 1.
I arrived around 6:30 pm and 'on cue' a mamasan quickly guided me to a table that was towards the back, in front of the cashier so it was hard to get a good look at all the girls but there seemed to be about 35 girls on the left side of the entrance and only about 5 on the left side. Scanning the bored faces of the girls from afar, I was not disappointed and felt at least 3 that I could see were cute. But within 1 min of sitting down the mamasan had brought over a girl. Typical for Classic from what I read on the forum.
I told her I wanted my drink first and relax since I just got here. The girl was about 6.5 looks, slim, probably under 24, no kids, and her good English might have been a reason she was presented to me. The only issue I had was with her very thick eyebrows. We chatted for less than 5 minutes and out of nowhere the mamasan had a 2nd girl presented who was a 7.5, definitely early 20's and very large boobs. The boobs looked even larger because she was extremely slim. Girl 1 told me she was her best friend and roommate. Coming into this situation, I didn't want a 3 some but looking at them both I was imagining the possibilities. They were very nice, but not overly energetic. The 2nd girl was just too good to pass up so 550 k went from my wallet to the mamasan's hand.
550 k gets you 1.5 HR and 2 shots. The session itself was average and I cannot really complain too much. Girl 2 with the big, natural boobs had a rocking' body despite having a baby. My guess is after 2-3 yrs those boobs and stomach might get destroyed by gravity. However right now was perfection. I had the girls separately so there was not the changing of the condom. Both only did CBJ. Perhaps due to the flight or only getting about 25 mins rest between sessions, I didn't finish the 2nd shot. I probably should have waited at least 40 mins, but I could feel my stomach might have a tough time with the early dinner I had at Chili's. So after I showered a 2nd time and with about 20 mins left in the session I laughingly told them I needed a toilet. (Luckily the rest of the trip my stomach was fine). I came out of the bathroom and it was getting close to 8:30 pm and there were a lot more customers and seemed to have even more girls. The stage had some girls dancing but they were not that attractive so I just left.
550 K (+100 K tip) is a steal for 2 girls. But I wouldn't do a 3 some again. I need a bit more time between shots.
Around 11 pm I thought about going to CJs for WEDs ladies night but was didn't have the energy and also didn't really feel like paying 1-2 million. So sleep won out.
WrinkleFree
10-14-15, 04:39
Day 2 12 pm.
Sparadise (massage / spa at Grand Mecure).
After breakfast I hit the gym / weights and the pool. After changing in my room I decided to hit their 5th floor "men's spa" which is on the same floor as the gym / pool, etc. Believe it or not, I've never had a massage + HJ in my life and at 330 K+tax (normal room) I figured 'why not'? (everyday from 11 am-5 pm is happy hour so the price is reduced to 290 K+tax when I went).
The lobby of the 'spa' was clean, dark and empty but looked like a 4 star type place. They lead you to a computer monitor where they have photos of the girls (about 15 but not all are working at the same time). All of the girls seemed to be 22-27 yo and several of them were very cute (keep in mind the photos all have that 'soft, filtered' look to hide flaws and you cannot see their full body). Only 3 girls were available and they were about 6.0-6.5 in looks. I saw on a TV screen that maybe total 6-7 girls were there. One of the cute girls I saw was pre-booked for 1 pm. Damn.
My girl was slim, not bad looking and very friendly. Clothes all off, I got on my stomach and she did the massage for about 45 mins. Her technique was not bad but certainly far from a great massage. After the flip it's right to the HJ. No complaints from me as she did well, although this was my first "professional HJ" so cannot really compare. I showered, tipped her and left happy.
If you are flying in to CGK you can bring plenty wrapped up in your checked luggage..My info is a year old, alas, but I used to bring wine into CGK in checked luggage. The bags are x-rayed or otherwise looked at before they go onto the baggage carrousel, and if something is spotted, the bag gets a chalk mark. (or maybe just random marking, who knows?) The customs guys open bags with chalk marks. So, if you are carrying, keep a napkin from the plane, look carefully at your bag (sometimes the mark is on the zipper) and erase the chalk before you go to the check-out x-ray. TTG is a specialist at packing box wine in checked luggage.
I thought the limit was 1 L bottle only? Have you sucessfully smuggled more?
.Sorry. It's not appropriate to discuss methods in an open ISG forum though I wasn't aware there was a 1 Litre limit I must admit.
LifeIsABeach
10-15-15, 04:40
Been reading the last 30 pages and have decided that I might stay a couple of days in North Jakarta for the Brothel scene and the rest of my time in South Jakarta with the free lancers. I do not mind if the girls are a bit older in South Jakarta. It's the moves they make in bed that matters. A 'stunner' does not equate to better service though one may get lucky sometimes.
I would like to visit these places before the girls' pussies get filled with ojek drivers' cum! I would appreciate if the posters would help out with 'good' times to visit the various venues. I read that Malioboro starts at about 3. 00 pm.
Would like opening or action times for these venues Malio club, Malioboro, Classic, Travel and other brothels in the area. Plus, it would help if you could also state as to how the girls are available in each joint. Are they in aquariums, paraded, mamsan brings a girl out, just dancing or hanging out in the club. Are the punters allowed to talk with the girls before the 'purchase'? Thank you.
WrinkleFree
10-15-15, 04:43
Marliboro.
Indonesians definitely have a sense of humor with places called Illigals and Marliboro. The latter has some large billboards outside the building using the famous Marlboro Man with some Marliboro slogans. Pretty funny.
I decided to go straight to the lounge in my plain clothes and the mamasan had me sit on that 'main level' at a table furthest from the girls. I thought it was so strange but after thinking about it, I believe that she wanted to give me a line-up of her local girls. But I preferred to sit closer so after her explaining the pricing I moved. The place had 5 customers at most at 6:30 pm. The main level had all the foreign girls like PRC, Viet, Eastern Germany and Columbia (all total probably 25 foreign women). The sunken lower level had a ton of local women. I might guess up to 40. The foreigners seemed to be in the mid to late 20's whereas the locals seems to be under 25.
I must admit I'm a bit of a sucker for PRC women and one was eyeing me and was pretty (7. 0). There was a constant parade of the locals coming up from the lower level to do line-ups perhaps in another area. Definitely slightly more attractive than Classic and I found more than a handful that I wouldn't mind taking to a room, but the PRC girl tempted me too much.
Walking to the room and past the desk there, they ask if you have condoms. I actually bought condoms earlier that day but forgot them! Damn. Classic provides Durex condoms and this place wants 35 k for a condom. When you are charging over 2 million I'd expect them to provide a condom, but my mistake.
The girl ended up being very nice and I speak enough Mandarin to hold simple conversation so it was not awkward. But her body was not what I had expected. She had nice firm boobs and a fairly slim legs but her stomach was pretty big. CBJ (kinda surprised) and the sex was fine. She did her massage thing afterwards. Pretty routine. The 'starting' tip amount on the paper is 200 K and up to 1 million.
Probably would not go back as the vibe there was not to my liking, attractiveness of the girls did not match the price. Perhaps later in the night with dancing girls the vibe might be better. In hindsight I might go back but would stick to a local only.
I left almost right away as I was getting hungry. Total I believe was 2.5 million. I asked about Credit card but they said it was 3% charge so I paid cash. (Alexis does not have any CC surcharge).
WrinkleFree
10-15-15, 04:54
Classic (2nd floor).
Session 1.
With Maliboro not living up to expectations, the next day I headed back to Classic around 4:30 pm and immediately regretted it after walking in. Maybe 5 customers. Maybe 20 girls. The mamasan sat me down in front of her 8 girls or so and they were all 3-6's in my opinion. I must have come much too early. Of course she brings over a girl that I don't like and I tried to tell them I just wanted to drink. She sent the girl away and sat with me and constantly pestering me with 'how about this one' or 'this one?' using your laser pointer with the girls right in front of us. It was pretty funny. Finally she got the hint and left for a minute and I looked behind me to the other couch and the girls over there were equally bad. She would keep coming back every couple of minutes and I gave that same smile and look that I just wanted to sit and drink. After about 10 mins she came up from behind and produced a very pretty girl (7. 0 in my book). Slim, nice chest and even a bit taller than average. Plus her English was pretty good. Mamasan working hard pulling this one out of the dressing room. We talked and she was very nice but not a lot of energy. Despite this, I still picked her. And I'm glad I did. (she told me I was the first guy of the day for her and she began at 3 pm).
Right when we get into the room and after she orders a water she takes off my shirt and goes to work on my nipples starts to rub over my pants. All a 'routine' but I liked the energy. Her top and pants are off when the water comes and she hides behind the door. The rest of the session was more of the same. She wanted me to finger her, she did BBBJ and the sex was great. Afterward she cleaned me up and wanted to 'spoon' together to rest and that was kinda 'fun' too as I was a bit tired. So we did that for the last 15 mins or so and I was taking a shower when the phone rang. I gave her a tip and she said drop it in her bag and never even looked at it. Interesting girl. But I definitely left a satisfied customer.
Session 2.
I came back onto the floor and there were a lot more customers now and more than double the girls. I decided to walk over to an empty table closer to the side with the stage and got a water. I hung out watching the mamasans at work and the girls coming and going. Eventually the stage lit up and girls got ready to dance. I just sat there for over 40 mins I think. I once I kinda 'cruised' past all the couches checking out the girls a bit but no one was above a 6.5. I waited another 20 minutes and thought if I don't see a girl this time I would leave and perhaps give Alexis Hotel a chance. As I got to the other side of the club where most of the girls sit, I caught the eye of this very, very cute spinner. 8.5 face on my scale. Turns out she is 19. My tastes vary but I don't mind a thin girl especially with that face. Now I know what you are thinking-- starfish. Yeah, I knew that was a possibility as she was shy and spoke very little English but at 350 k I'm willing to take a hit for the team.
So the session was not fantastic nor bad. She ordered a Pocari Sweat drink and I was impressed she wanted to keep her electrolytes levels high:) She smoked as we waited for the drink and make the mistake of putting the cigarette on the bed so when we got up to get the door it created a small burn hole in the bed which frustrated her. (at the end she said it would cost her 500 K if they noticed it). She was pretty shy but she did BBBJ very well and although she was not a ball of energy in bed, she also was not a dead fish. Overall, I was very satisfied and would choose her again. I'm also a sucker for a pretty face.
(500 k+100 k tip).
Been reading the last 30 pages and have decided that I might stay a couple of days in North Jakarta for the Brothel scene and the rest of my time in South Jakarta with the free lancers. I do not mind if the girls are a bit older in South Jakarta. It's the moves they make in bed that matters. A 'stunner' does not equate to better service though one may get lucky sometimes.
I would like to visit these places before the girls' pussies get filled with ojek drivers' cum! I would appreciate if the posters would help out with 'good' times to visit the various venues. I read that Malioboro starts at about 3. 00 pm.
Would like opening or action times for these venues Malio club, Malioboro, Classic, Travel and other brothels in the area.
Thank you.Malioboro you can get there at 3 pm and have some girls to choose from. All the girls won't be there until 6 pm. You don't have to worry about any ojek drivers going there, it's too expensive.
Classic and Travel I have been there at 2 pm and there are girls.
I always go to the down market places like Classic or Travel early and don't worry about what time I go to Malioboro. Night is ok at Malioboro.
My info is a year old, alas, but I used to bring wine into CGK in checked luggage. The bags are x-rayed or otherwise looked at before they go onto the baggage carrousel, and if something is spotted, the bag gets a chalk mark. (or maybe just random marking, who knows?) The customs guys open bags with chalk marks. So, if you are carrying, keep a napkin from the plane, look carefully at your bag (sometimes the mark is on the zipper) and erase the chalk before you go to the check-out x-ray. TTG is a specialist at packing box wine in checked luggage.Not anymore. I've flown in and out of Jakarta (internationally) 6 times in the last 2 months, and every single time ALL bags got checked. I remember that before it was only randomly selected checked luggage (indeed with the chalk marks), but it seems they have changed that. They even wanted to scan all the hand luggage as well, which I don't remember from the last time I left / re-entered back in February.
Not anymore. I've flown in and out of Jakarta (internationally) 6 times in the last 2 months, and every single time ALL bags got checked. I remember that before it was only randomly selected checked luggage (indeed with the chalk marks), but it seems they have changed that. They even wanted to scan all the hand luggage as well, which I don't remember from the last time I left / re-entered back in February.The last few years they have always checked hand luggage, that is, sent it through the x-ray machine (or whatever it is) as you exit customs. I did arrive in Jakarta a few weeks ago and don't recall them sending my checked luggage through that machine, but I suppose they might have and I just don't remember.
I was in Indonesia for a couple of weeks on a dive trip--spent a few of those days in Jakarta. The last night in Jakarta was Wednesday night. Relying on Natty Bumpo's awesome reports, decided to check out ladies night at CJ's bar at the Mulia hotel.
I personally have never seen anything of this magnitude. Arrived around 10:00 PM. The place was absolutely packed with Freelancers--and not that many punters. The ratio must have been at 5 or 6 to one. Most of the girls are standing in the aisles.
There are some booths in the back that were mostly empty when I arrived. They had a nice band with a good female lead singer. Although there were quite a few older and fatter chicks that I would not fuck if they paid me, the overall quality was very good.
I wandered around looking for that tell tale smile and eye contact from a cute young thang--after a couple of false starts --I got a good vibe from a very attractive girl from Bandung. She was there with her friend--both of whom had small kids.
While their English was not that great (and I know some very basic Bahasa) --we had no problem communicating. I bought them both a couple of drinks--lots of playful kissing--ass squeezing--and crotch grabbing..When I go to Indonesia it would be on a mongering trip for three weeks. No way, I could afford $280 every night. But budgeting on other nights I would be willing to spend that every four days as a special treat. So yes, thanks very much for this trip report so I can add that to my fantasy or bucket list or planning. At the very least go on Wednesday nights at CJ's to get a stunner and budget the other nights. Indonesian babes are gorgeous.
Not anymore. I've flown in and out of Jakarta (internationally) 6 times in the last 2 months, and every single time ALL bags got checked. I remember that before it was only randomly selected checked luggage (indeed with the chalk marks), but it seems they have changed that. They even wanted to scan all the hand luggage as well, which I don't remember from the last time I left / re-entered back in February.When I lived in Indonesia and the 80+ times I transited, the hand luggage ALWAYS went thru the x-ray machines for a scan. When I said 'got checked' I meant a piece of checked luggage was opened and inspected. I could have been more clear!
When I lived in Indonesia and the 80+ times I transited, the hand luggage ALWAYS went thru the x-ray machines for a scan. When I said 'got checked' I meant a piece of checked luggage was opened and inspected. I could have been more clear!Agreed. Hand luggage is always scanned. The check in bags are randomly scanned. I just came through a few weeks ago and they did not scan my check in bag, but they did of course scan my carry on luggage as always.
That being said, I normally buy duty free alcohol in Singapore on my way to Jakarta. Most times I just get one bottle, but many times I have bought 2 bottles and carried them in clear view with the clear plastic duty free bag. They have never said anything to me about bringing 2 even though the limit is supposedly 1. I have friends who would pack 5 bottles of wine in their check in bag every time they came into the country. It's a gamble because those bags could be searched, but if they catch you with them, I believe you would have to pay a tax. I've never packed more than 2 bottles of alcohol in my check in bag, but I've not had a problem. My check in bags are scanned on occasion. I guess maybe there is a chalk mark, but many times when they scan those, they are scanning everyone's check in bag at that time. Most times when they ask me to scan my check in bag, they don't even look at it before they ask me to throw it in the scanner. There was only one time they ever searched my bag after scanning and that was when I was bringing 4 big cannisters of protein powder in my bag. I explained to them that's just for me and I use it to stay fit. They didn't charge me any tax for that and let me pass.
With the new supposed clamp down on alcohol, I'm not sure if they are more strict or not.
Hi all,
I do still have a few pills with me in Europe, but am hesitant to bring them since I want to avoid any issues regarding having pills on me when entering the country (I know it is unlikely, but I am highly risk averse regarding customs / immigration).
I have read through some old messages on buying mainly vitamin V and would be grateful if a fellow member with some knowledge could confirm my understanding and maybe provide an update on prices. :
- Pills are generally available in pharmacies without prescription, but not exactly cheap.
- particularly in Kota (Gaja Mada, Lokasari) there are lots of street vendors selling generica. While most likely not original impression is that the pills do actually contain Sidenafil etc.
Many thanks in advance for guidance on this subject.
Best regards.
Thommy
Hi all,
I do still have a few pills with me in Europe, but am hesitant to bring them since I want to avoid any issues regarding having pills on me when entering the country (I know it is unlikely, but I am highly risk averse regarding customs / immigration).
I have read through some old messages on buying mainly vitamin V and would be grateful if a fellow member with some knowledge could confirm my understanding and maybe provide an update on prices. :
- Pills are generally available in pharmacies without prescription, but not exactly cheap.
- particularly in Kota (Gaja Mada, Lokasari) there are lots of street vendors selling generica. While most likely not original impression is that the pills do actually contain Sidenafil etc.
Many thanks in advance for guidance on this subject.
Best regards.
ThommySildenafil, which is the active ingredient in Viagra, is available at drug stores in most malls throughout Jakarta, e.g., Plaza Indonesia. As an approximation it costs around $6 or $7 US per pill, although depending on your needs you may be able to get away with splitting the pills (I believe they are 100 MG). At Century Drugstore, one of the two majors, you can get a member's card for the asking, which will give you a 5 percent discount.
I have found that if you ask for generic Viagra they may say they don't have it. But if you ask for Sildenafil, they do. This may reflect a translation problem or that there is, in fact, a brand name, Rozgra, they stick on the generic stuff. So, you could ask for Rozgra if Sildenafil doesn't work.
I myself avoid drugs from street vendors because rightly or wrongly I believe there are increased risks in purchasing outside of respectable drug stores but that, of course, is a personal decision.
Hope this helps.
WrinkleFree
10-18-15, 04:00
My last night in Jakarta and I debated going back to Classic for another 2 shot night or heading over to Alexis to see how a more expensive place would play out on a Saturday night. I ended up running behind and it was close to 10 pm by the time I arrived as the taxi driver didn't really understand Alexis Hotel so we ended up towards the back of the building complex which you don't want to enter from even though it shows Alexis hotel because cars going that way have to take a parking ticket (5 k). The driver was not too happy about that and I wasn't either. I ended up giving him 4 k. The front entrance has a gate but no parking ticket needed for taxis.
Alexis does look high class compared to Maliboro. I got off on the 7th floor and again decided to forgo changing into the robe and went straight into the lounge which had 10 or so customers and tons of girls. 25-30 locals, 12 Viet, 5 PRC, 9 Thai, 6 eastern Europe.
On average, the girls here were younger and the imports were definitely more attractive than Maliboro. The locals were slightly younger on average but only 2-3 really caught my eye and none that were truly amazing. Cost is 1. 4 mil for locals and 2. 4 mil for imports. 30 mins with the girl in the spa and 1 HR in the room. Perhaps because all the mamasans work for Alexis and not competing, the vibe there was very relaxed with no pressure. I ended up sitting and just enjoying the view and watching the countless line-ups all the girls had to do.
I couldn't get a good look at the PRCs from where I was sitting but when they did a line-up across the room, I was tempted by a couple but wanted to get a better look. I took a restroom break and when I came back there was only 1 PRC. Damn. But perhaps that would save me some money. But the local talent was not amazing. There was one that was well built-- tall, young, some meat on her and big natural boobs. But she was either shy or didn't really like me because when we caught each other's eye she only had a half smile. (however over the course of the night I could see she did not smile at anyone).
I didn't have any food for about 6 hrs so I decided to order some chicken / rice and wait to see if perhaps some better looking girls or the PRC chicks I saw earlier would come back. After dinner I headed back into the main lounge and only 2 PRC girls with one being much more attractive, but when someone at my table got a line-up and I had a chance to see her walk she her face was great but her body was not as good as I expected so I decided that I would focus on a local. I narrowed it down to new girl (8.50 face, spinner) and the Girl who doesn't smile (8.0 face and 9.5 body). She still did not really smile but I was going to choose her, but a Japanese guy in a group of 3 who had been there forever (I was also there for a long time, LOL) went up to her and took her hand. I'm too slow. It's now almost 12:30 am and I saw a bunch of people coming in so I thought 'better be quick'. Spinner it is.
30 mins in the spa is more like 15 mins. This is for everyone because there were girls who only spent 10 mins in the spa. She would massage your head and back. Then she would get in front of you to rub her butt against your goodies and your hands could roam. I saw the Girl Who Would not Smile in the spa with the Japanese guy and she did not seem very friendly so although that body was rocking' I was glad with my pick.
Going to the room they said all the normal rooms for full so 100 k extra for VIP room or wait. It was just about 1 am so I accepted the VIP room.
The girl was very friendly and her English was OK so we could communicate a little. Spinner body with a small be cup. BBBJ and the sex was much better than expected. She was super wet and responsive. Not a ton of energy but very willing to get into different positions.
(1.4 mil and I forgot to give her a tip but at no point did she look to get one and very warm saying goodbye.).
I guessed her age to be 20 yo and she said she was 19. She also said they take home 1 million (of 1.4) which seemed very high, but glad she can get it. She said one friend told her that Classic only gives the girls 90 K.
Sildenafil, which is the active ingredient in Viagra, is available at drug stores in most malls throughout Jakarta, e.g., Plaza Indonesia. As an approximation it costs around $6 or $7 US per pill, although depending on your needs you may be able to get away with splitting the pills (I believe they are 100 MG). At Century Drugstore, one of the two majors, you can get a member's card for the asking, which will give you a 5 percent discount.
I have found that if you ask for generic Viagra they may say they don't have it. But if you ask for Sildenafil, they do. This may reflect a translation problem or that there is, in fact, a brand name, Rozgra, they stick on the generic stuff. So, you could ask for Rozgra if Sildenafil doesn't work.
I myself avoid drugs from street vendors because rightly or wrongly I believe there are increased risks in purchasing outside of respectable drug stores but that, of course, is a personal decision.
Hope this helps.Thanks, La Guy. This is indeed very helpful. Do you happen to know whether they also sell Vardenafil or Tadalafil? Since they do apparently offer Sildenafil, I'd assume they have the alternatives as well.
I will have 2-3 stopovers in Jakarta each for 2-3 days, so most likely I will "go crazy" when in Jakarta and particularly Cialis / similar stuff may be the best choice to cover both day and night time action.
Member #4410
10-18-15, 23:13
When I lived in Indonesia and the 80+ times I transited, the hand luggage ALWAYS went thru the x-ray machines for a scan. When I said 'got checked' I meant a piece of checked luggage was opened and inspected. I could have been more clear!I believe this conversation should be transferred to the General Information thread, since it is not about Jakarta in particular.
Regards,
Ko.
Member #4410
10-18-15, 23:17
FYI. Most of the large supermarkets in the modern malls have spirits.
Just last night I was wondering around PI, and stumbled upon the alcohol section in the foodhall.
The Gin's, Vodkas and Tequilas were all in the 800 k range.In Plaza Senayan there is also a discrete shop in the basement, next to the escalator, to buy various kinds of hard liquor.
MohdirFan82
10-19-15, 03:42
Dear Fellow members,
I was once very active member on WSG and suddenly the site got too much restrictions. 2010 I moved to United States and focus on my studies and work.
My expertise was in Kuala Lumpur Market, and very well mongering experience back in 2005 till 2010.
My chick of choice always been and always will be Bakso, Indonesian girls are one of the most prettest girls when its come Asia. Stunning smile, jaw dropping bodies and beautiful skin. Its my thing I never had so much great sex with any other girls but Indonesian girl I think its just me. I have tried majority of girl of all the races and nationalities but nothing come close to Indonesian girl how horny can they can.
Anyway How I am going to Jakarta and Jogja doing my extensive homework on OKC, Tagged, DIA and Badoo.
So far I have 4 girls waiting on me impatiently All 4 of them are non-pros and age from 20 to 28. I will spend 1 week with each of them and I want to stay in Indonesia for 4 week.
As soon as make my Walmart debit card I will be paid member but I am so so happy I found this website. Don't want my GF to find out the charge on my card from ISG.
I will let my fellow mongers know as soon as I book my flight if someone want to hangout for beer in Jakarta or Jogja.
Happy mongering and be safe everyone.
Thanks, La Guy. This is indeed very helpful. Do you happen to know whether they also sell Vardenafil or Tadalafil? Since they do apparently offer Sildenafil, I'd assume they have the alternatives as well.
I will have 2-3 stopovers in Jakarta each for 2-3 days, so most likely I will "go crazy" when in Jakarta and particularly Cialis / similar stuff may be the best choice to cover both day and night time action.As to Tadalafil / Cialis, I haven't had any luck recently getting it in generic or quasi-generic form. But I vaguely remember (so vaguely I'm not positive my recollection is correct) getting it a few years ago at a drug store in generic form for around the same price as generic Viagra. I also am not certain when I have recently asked unsuccessfully for it whether I said "generic Cialis" (in which case I may have been up against the same situation I described earlier when asking for "generic Viagra") or whether I asked for tadalafil, although I tend to think I did ask for tadalafil and may have only been given the option of purchasing very expensive Cialis.
I have no idea about Vardenafil as I haven't tried it or attempted to purchase it.
As long as we are on the subject, if you live in the United States and do a google search for Cialis coupon, Lilly, the manufacturer, offers a coupon good for 30 free 5 MG tablets. The coupon can be used once per year, but requires a prescription from a doctor to get filled, which can then be done at any pharmacy. Depending on whether you are a 10 MG or 20 MG Cialis user, this translates into either 15 or 7 1/2 regular sized Cialis pills.
And also, responding to another thing you mentioned in your earlier post on the subject, I would be virtually certain that if you entered Indonesia with a prescription for Cialis or Viagra there would be no problem going through customs. OTOH, although I too tend to be fairly careful about things, I have never thought twice about bringing in any of these particular drugs when entering Indonesia, even without a prescription. This reflects that you don't need a prescription to buy them in Indonesia, so why would you need one to enter the country with them? Well, you never know, but that is how I have looked at it.
Hi all,
I do still have a few pills with me in Europe, but am hesitant to bring them since I want to avoid any issues regarding having pills on me when entering the country (I know it is unlikely, but I am highly risk averse regarding customs / immigration).
I have read through some old messages on buying mainly vitamin V and would be grateful if a fellow member with some knowledge could confirm my understanding and maybe provide an update on prices. :
- Pills are generally available in pharmacies without prescription, but not exactly cheap.
- particularly in Kota (Gaja Mada, Lokasari) there are lots of street vendors selling generica. While most likely not original impression is that the pills do actually contain Sidenafil etc.
Many thanks in advance for guidance on this subject.
Best regards.
ThommyYou will get them from nearly any apotek.
I have just returned from Indonesia, I was paying 100,000 idr for 2 cialis.
If you are prescribed them at home, you won't have any problems with customs, just bring them in the original packaging and have a letter from your doctor stating that they are prescribed for personal use (this goes for all medication.
And also, responding to another thing you mentioned in your earlier post on the subject, I would be virtually certain that if you entered Indonesia with a prescription for Cialis or Viagra there would be no problem going through customs. OTOH, although I too tend to be fairly careful about things, I have never thought twice about bringing in any of these particular drugs when entering Indonesia, even without a prescription. This reflects that you don't need a prescription to buy them in Indonesia, so why would you need one to enter the country with them? Well, you never know, but that is how I have looked at it.As this time I stay 6 months in Bali I brought with me all medication needed for that time and I take 9 different pills daily.
No one cared.
Dee.
Member #4716
10-20-15, 19:31
Dear mongers (especially Ceegee).
In preparation for my trip to Jakarta in December, I have been on Badoo. I have offered 3 young women 500,000 IDR plus tip for 3 hours in my hotel room. They have refused and quoted me at least 1 million for ST. I tried countering with 750,000 plus tip, but no luck. I have told them that I've never paid that much for ST. Have you guys experienced this? Any advice, or should I just suck it up and fork out the 1 million?
P.S. Promise a good trip report in January after my trip.
Dear mongers (especially Ceegee).
In preparation for my trip to Jakarta in December....p.My own sense is, October is way too early for the girls to take a "price cut". Good luck!
Fast Eddie 48
10-21-15, 02:18
Dear mongers (especially Ceegee).
In preparation for my trip to Jakarta in December, I have been on Badoo. I have offered 3 young women 500,000 IDR plus tip for 3 hours in my hotel room. They have refused and quoted me at least 1 million for ST. I tried countering with 750,000 plus tip, but no luck. I have told them that I've never paid that much for ST. Have you guys experienced this? Any advice, or should I just suck it up and fork out the 1 million?
P.S. Promise a good trip report in January after my trip.To HotMale9833.
No sure what is the last time you are here but thing gone up a lot the last 5 yr for freelance at Disco pick up and escort, your options is go to hotel travel and classic hotel rate is still about 350 k didn't change much at all the last 5 yr, the USD is strong now 100 usd get you 1. 4 mil.
Fast eddie 48.
WrinkleFree
10-22-15, 05:00
Dear mongers (especially Ceegee).
In preparation for my trip to Jakarta in December, I have been on Badoo. I have offered 3 young women 500,000 IDR plus tip for 3 hours in my hotel room. They have refused and quoted me at least 1 million for ST. I tried countering with 750,000 plus tip, but no luck. I have told them that I've never paid that much for ST. Have you guys experienced this? Any advice, or should I just suck it up and fork out the 1 million?
P.S. Promise a good trip report in January after my trip.Love a guy doing some research and pre-booking. I wonder if those girls have any cancellation fees.
I've never had a FL in Jakarta but for internet play (social media, websites) pricing has gone up a lot. Market pricing is much higher as there is a lot of people willing to pay 1 million to 2 million. For me that makes sense if the girl is hot but some of these ladies look like they've had better days (but service might be great). Photos online I also would be concerned about not just bait and switch but also just photos of a 30 yo when she was 24 yo. But as someone else mentioned jokingly time plays a factor. A girl at 11 pm might be 2 million and at 3 am she is 1 million.
Personally, Classic and their 1 hour for 350 k is pretty unbeatable. 700 k if you wanted to stay for a few hours and go two rounds.
But if you love the comforts of your hotel and spending 2-3 hrs with the girl then I think 1 million pre-booking is not a bad deal in this current market.
Personally, Classic and their 1 hour for 350 k is pretty unbeatable. 700 k if you wanted to stay for a few hours and go two rounds.
But if you love the comforts of your hotel and spending 2-3 hrs with the girl then I think 1 million pre-booking is not a bad deal in this current market.That deal at Classic sounds like such a bargain. Only 350 k for a young, good looking girl for an hour in a pretty nice room. The only problem is the service you receive from the girls is mediocre to poor, and most times I leave that place feeling like I have a case of blue balls even though I just came.
Almost invariably, you will get much better service from those free lancers. You can find free lancers who will go with you for 500 k in the lower end malls if you put in the time and effort to go hunting. But 1 million is pretty much the normal rate these days on the average for a nice free lancer. Blok M girls you can get for 700 k for a nice girl. Bats and CJs chicks are going to want between 1. 5 and 2 million (but they can be had for less on ladies night and at closing time).
That deal at Classic sounds like such a bargain. Only 350 k for a young, good looking girl for an hour in a pretty nice room. The only problem is the service you receive from the girls is mediocre to poor, and most times I leave that place feeling like I have a case of blue balls even though I just came.
Almost invariably, you will get much better service from those free lancers. You can find free lancers who will go with you for 500 k in the lower end malls if you put in the time and effort to go hunting. But 1 million is pretty much the normal rate these days on the average for a nice free lancer. Blok M girls you can get for 700 k for a nice girl. Bats and CJs chicks are going to want between 1. 5 and 2 million (but they can be had for less on ladies night and at closing time).I know Classic is not very popular to some long timers, but I think it is one of the best bargains you can find. Where else can you get such a wide selection of young girls? What you see is what you get unless you missed that push up bra. It's a pump and run place, nothing more. If you pay double versus Classic, you can get an incall massage from we chat for double the time. The downside? The pics are all fake. But I've found them to be very GFE (ymmv). I've tried BATS (well went there a few times came back empty), but never found the crowd to be better than what you can find at Classic. Lots of average or plus sized ladies. But I've found at least a few very solid 8-9's at Classic every time.
My favorite choice now is we chat. I've tried a few times and found one cutie. I'll try a few more times but also see if the cutie can share some friend contacts. I think this is the best way, at least for me.
I know Classic is not very popular to some long timers, but I think it is one of the best bargains you can find. I don't disagree. It's worth the 350 k just to be in the room naked with them.
WrinkleFree
10-23-15, 10:52
That deal at Classic sounds like such a bargain. Only 350 k for a young, good looking girl for an hour in a pretty nice room. The only problem is the service you receive from the girls is mediocre to poor, and most times I leave that place feeling like I have a case of blue balls even though I just came.
Almost invariably, you will get much better service from those free lancers. You can find free lancers who will go with you for 500 k in the lower end malls if you put in the time and effort to go hunting. But 1 million is pretty much the normal rate these days on the average for a nice free lancer. Blok M girls you can get for 700 k for a nice girl. Bats and CJs chicks are going to want between 1. 5 and 2 million (but they can be had for less on ladies night and at closing time).I would not disagree with you. And certainly sounds like Classic is not for you. I think it is a matter of 'what is your priority?' Agreed that Classic would not be a place for service if that is very high on your list. I wish I had the time to hunt and work for some good freelancers. Unfortunately my time is really limited. I wrote before, I'm a sucker for a pretty face. So we know what my priority is. Also I'm still a newbie and I'm not a big drinker and will not have fun sitting around until 2-3 am hoping the girl I had an eye on gets picked. Also I'm really picky-- I think that will change with age. It already has changed since my early 30's.
I should have clarified that Classic is unbeatable with price / variety / and looks, but with major drawbacks on service. I did 4 girls and was satisfied with the service for the 350 k I paid. But next time around perhaps I get blueballed:).
My first time to Jakarta was great and completely beats Thailand (for me personally). But again I'm a sucker for a pretty face and find Indonesians prettier than Thais. Also I have no time, so the sauna / classic setup is a good choice. And 350 k-800 k is a pretty fair price in my book. In fact already transfered my miles to get a ticket in February.
But it's great that people have varied tastes. If everyone had loads of time to hunt in the malls / social media then that is more competition for you and also will push up the price more. But I totally get what you mean, but you can also understand things from the other side.
Hi all,
With my trip to Indonesia coming up shortly (see travel announcements section) I thought I'd share my broad planning here in the forum and see whether senior members have any insight and wish to comment. So here it goes:
I will have 3 layovers in Jakarta during my time, all for 3 days. First, arrival on Saturday evening until Tuesday am, second arrival on Thursday afternoon until Sunday and last from Wednesday or Thursday until Saturday evening.
In general I'm looking for balanced mongering activities with partaking in:
- Spas / massages leading to a happy ending either by hand or by going all the way with the lady of choice.
- bordellos / one stop shops. Either cheap and quick or exclusive.
- freelancers.
- depending on time, mood and success I am also looking to see whether I can score 1 (or more) freebies, either via WeChat / Tinder and or by pick up in malls / bars / clubs (I am a bule in his early 30's, so based on what I hear / read there may be a chance).
Location wise I have already posted in the hotel section that I will be staying in the central / northern area of Jakarta during all three trips (I. E. Locations in the South are not my priority during this visit).
Area of interest 1: Spas / Massages.
- Kimocho Spa, Mangga Besar (just across Hotel Travel).
I've been here on my last trip twice and. While the facilities are old. I liked the ladies and am set on returning at least once to test one of the favorites in the local indonesian forums, No. 33 (called Rebekka) who is said to provide good service.
Prices according to my research: 200 k for facilities + massage, 300 - 500 k tips for full service (last year I managed 400 k both times, so seems to be realistic).
- Delta Spa (unsure which location).
I believe a visit to a Delta Spa branch should be on the agenda for every healthy male visiting Jakarta. It is just pure bliss to spend an afternoon relaxing with Sauna, whirlpool and then a nice massage with a happy ending included!
- Cherry Spa (Lokasari).
While I haven't seen this spa mentioned a lot here, it seems to have a good lounge area to stay around and have a drink after the "spa time", so it is on my short list of new places to explore.
Prices: similar to Kimocho. There is an all in package available at 450/500 / 550 k depending on room type.
Area of interest 2: bordellos / one stop shops.
- Hotel Classic.
I will most definitely end up at classic at least 3 x since I had quite positive experiences here during my last visit. I fully understand where most of the critics come from, but so far I usually got average service (which seems to be "good" service in classic terms) to way below average prices, so I will return.
Prices: not sure about the 3 some price, one on one seems to be 350 k.
- Hotel Travel.
I haven't been, but will likely jump in to see how it compares to classic.
- Malioboro / Malio Club.
Since I'm looking for at least 1 slightly more decadent night than classic / travel I'm currently looking at Malioboro to do this (since I do not want to pay the rates at Alexis).
Area of interest 3: Freelancers.
As mentioned I will be staying central / north, so currently have not planned to visit the Blok, but rather focus on BATS / CJs (only once or twice).
Area of interest 4: Freebies.
Since it has been a while I'm not sure what the happening places are at the moment to connect with young, preferably english speaking Indonesian girls open to a short term fling with a visiting caucasian male (I'm in my early 30's by the way), so if anyone has good, up to date information I'd appreciate it. Last time I was in Jakarta e. G. X2 / Immigrant where good places, but most girls have only been interested in a steady boyfriend and I'm not looking to play them.
For malls: I have never tried to score / chat up any girls in malls until now, but it seems that there is a decent chance of success. Are there any malls more likely to be successful (in central / north) or does it not really matter?
Overall: I can't wait to get on the plane and will surely have my balls emptied by a nice Indonesian lady already my first night.
Regards.
Thommy.
Hi all,
Apologies for posting yet another message, but I hope that you do know the feeling of anticipation before an upcoming trip that makes you want to be prepared in the best possible way to make the most of the limited time that you have in the city / country you are visiting.
Since I will arrive on Halloween, Saturday Oct 31st, I was wondering if any of you are aware of any special Halloween events where I might have the chance to watch some eye candy dressed up as slutty nurses, witches, schoolgirls or whatever comes to their mind and. If lucky. Even take one (or more) to my hotel room. I'd be both interested in non-pro events in bars / clubs as well as events in Spa's / Bordellos.
I simply think, that a party atmosphere with scantily clad, dressed up Indonesian hotties dancing to the music and grinding their bodies would be the perfect start into my trip.
Last time that I was in Jakarta during Halloween was in 2010 or 2011 and to be honest I don't recall any big events, but maybe someone better informed has heard something?
Best regards.
Thommy
I doubt there would be any recognition of Halloween at all, since this is primarily only celebrated in America, and quite alien to Muslim tradition. Maybe in some tourist places frequented by Americans?
Since I will arrive on Halloween, Saturday Oct 31st, I was wondering if any of you are aware of any special Halloween events where I might have the chance to watch some eye candy dressed up as slutty nurses, witches, schoolgirls or whatever comes to their mind and. If lucky. Even take one (or more) to my hotel room. I'd be both interested in non-pro events in bars / clubs as well as events in Spa's / Bordellos.
If it was me. I'd do Dragonfly as its is always easy to mingle and meet girls, if you dress sharp and can string a sentence together , you will be ok http://dragonflynightclub.com/events/halloween-night/ .
Followed by one of the many spas in the city for a sexy halloween dancer show. All the big ones will have a theme. Illegals has a halloween event advertised on their website with sexy dancers which looks like alot of fun, Alexis will have something for sure. BFashion Hotel (a bit local IMHO) has an event advertised in their 2nd floor bar. Golden Crown has something on their website as well, possibly sexy dancers there.
Hi all,
Apologies for posting yet another message, but I hope that you do know the feeling of anticipation before an upcoming trip that makes you want to be prepared in the best possible way to make the most of the limited time that you have in the city / country you are visiting.
Since I will arrive on Halloween, Saturday Oct 31st, I was wondering if any of you are aware of any special Halloween events where I might have the chance to watch some eye candy dressed up as slutty nurses, witches, schoolgirls or whatever comes to their mind and. If lucky. Even take one (or more) to my hotel room. I'd be both interested in non-pro events in bars / clubs as well as events in Spa's / Bordellos.
I simply think, that a party atmosphere with scantily clad, dressed up Indonesian hotties dancing to the music and grinding their bodies would be the perfect start into my trip.
Last time that I was in Jakarta during Halloween was in 2010 or 2011 and to be honest I don't recall any big events, but maybe someone better informed has heard something?
Best regards.
ThommyThere are definitely some places that will have Halloween parties and sexily costumed girls. BATS is normally pretty good for Halloween. I am not in town currently, but this is direct from google.
JAGERMEISTER CARNIVAL OF SOULS HALLOWEEN PARTY at BATS SHANGRI-LA Jakarta (OCT. 31).
Halloween party at BATS will be enlivened by DJ Riri Mestica and you can party there till 5:00.
CIRQUE DU FREAK SHIVE NIGHT at FOUNDRY 8, Jakarta (OCT. 31).
This event will be enlivened by March Mayhem, Gema Putrawan, Fendy, Tanzel and Jaqueline. The event will begin at 22:000.
SKELETON SOIREE at DRAGONFLY, Jakarta (OCT. 31).
This event starts from 22:00, and will feature a DJ duo from the Netherlands. You could win an iPhone 6, iPhone 6+ and iPhone 5's if you are wearing the best costume.
CONJURING at EMPIRICA, Jakarta (OCT. 31).
The event lasted until 5:00 am will feature top DJ Paul Van Dyk. You could win an iPhone 6, iPhone 5's and iPad Mini if 8203;you use the coolest costume.
RUBBERLAND SEXY HALLOWEEN at X2, Jakarta (OCT. 31).
Black light party will feature Alvkandi, Tiara Eve and Morena, as well as the resident DJ of X2.
LOEWY LABORATORY at LOEWE, Jakarta (OCT. 31).
Mixologist of Loewy will offer Halloween-themed special cocktail, with DJ Mike Moran who will ensure the atmosphere remains hip.
ONE NIGHT WITH ANNABELLE at IMMIGRANT, Jakarta (OCT. 31).
DJ Jochen Miller of the Netherlands will entertain you all night, plus a special dance performance by the Wear Red.
I doubt there would be any recognition of Halloween at all, since this is primarily only celebrated in America, and quite alien to Muslim tradition. Maybe in some tourist places frequented by Americans?Haha. I remember taking a girl friend out to the mall with her kid to see Santa Claus. He wasn't around, so I asked the security guard where he was. He said "Lagi shalat dulu" (he's off doing one of the five daily Islamic prayers). Indonesians enjoy parties and celebrations, they work out a way to fit it into whatever religious beliefs they may or may not have.
I went down to Ibu Linda on the weekend, a massage joint in the gang right near the corner between Jalan Gajah Mada and Jalan Mangga Besar. I had a session with Sandra, somewhere in her thirties, good service except that she insisted on a covered blow job. Other than that, good attitude and a nice girl. I'll probably try one of the others next time, just for the sake of comparison. The official price is 330 k, I gave her 400. I don't see this place named much on the forum, but it's a perfectly acceptable, no frills knocking shop.
Member #4537
10-26-15, 09:34
good service except that she insisted on a covered blow job.If that happens, regardless of venue, always insist on talking to the Madam or the manager. You should be able to switch another girl. There's no actual rule which says you need to be wearing a condom for BJ. Isn't it funny they never ask for a condom when it's a local? They insist on it so they could get you to pay up a substantial tip.
If that happens, regardless of venue, always insist on talking to the Madam or the manager. You should be able to switch another girl. There's no actual rule which says you need to be wearing a condom for BJ. Isn't it funny they never ask for a condom when it's a local? They insist on it so they could get you to pay up a substantial tip.Egy you should consider the issue of sexual health and well-being with these girls. You'd be surprised how much of a push there is currently taking place in North Jakarta for sex education for the girls. The new Governor has set a large budget aside.
The girl in this scenario may have realised or be fearing she has entered the second stage of syphilis and has followed her health workers advice to avoid uncovered oral and anal sex.
If a kota girl wants CBJ it's usually not difficult to politely ask to check the palm of her hands to see if she has entered the second stage of syphilis. This stage begins with a "maculopapular rash" on the palms of the hands and the soles of the feet. This type of rash doesn't usually itch, but causes rough, reddish brown spots on the skin.
Tambora.
Member #4537
10-26-15, 17:03
Egy you should consider the issue of sexual health and well-being with these girls. You'd be surprised how much of a push there is currently taking place in North Jakarta for sex education for the girls. The new Governor has set a large budget aside.These have been going on for decades.
We all know in reality though it's always about the money, especially when you're being paid 150,000 or less for every customer.
I think Gonzo Two should have just popped the magical question.
Bules tend to have a reputation of being stingy when it comes to tipping afterwards in the Kota places, so that's why she used a condom with a BJ. Had he just politely suggested giving her a tip after they are done in return for no condom, she would have taken it off by all means. Worst comes to worst, he'd threaten to raise the issue with management then she would have obliged as the last thing she needs is not getting paid.
As someone who hits the Kota places on a nearly daily basis, I've never had problems getting BBFS as long as there is a tip negotiated. How much depends if she's been having a quiet day or not.
I'm looking for the name of a place in Jakarta that I was told about. I think it is more of a place for locals than foreigners. It looks like a market area with dimly lit rooms on the ground floor playing loud music, where the girls sit inside on plastic chairs and there are guys outside trying to usher you in as you walk past. Once you go in you and choose a girl, they take you to their room upstairs (its actually the room where they live) for ST.
Sound familiar to anyone? Is this place legit for foreigners to go?
Dg1980.
I'm looking for the name of a place in Jakarta that I was told about. I think it is more of a place for locals than foreigners. It looks like a market area with dimly lit rooms on the ground floor playing loud music, where the girls sit inside on plastic chairs and there are guys outside trying to usher you in as you walk past. Once you go in you and choose a girl, they take you to their room upstairs (its actually the room where they live) for ST.
Sound familiar to anyone? Is this place legit for foreigners to go?
Dg1980.You may be referring to Kalijodo. I was only there once during the day and there wasn't much going on then. Frankly at that time I wasn't expecting to see much other than the layout of the area so can't really comment further. Do a google search on that name and Jakarta, and you will find more information some of which will likely give you pause about visiting.
I did see one thing on one internet discussion suggesting it was scheduled to be closed down a month or so ago, but there was no confirmation this actually happened.
These have been going on for decades.
We all know in reality though it's always about the money, especially when you're being paid 150,000 or less for every customer.
I think Gonzo Two should have just popped the magical question.
Bules tend to have a reputation of being stingy when it comes to tipping afterwards in the Kota places, so that's why she used a condom with a BJ. Had he just politely suggested giving her a tip after they are done in return for no condom, she would have taken it off by all means. Worst comes to worst, he'd threaten to raise the issue with management then she would have obliged as the last thing she needs is not getting paid.
As someone who hits the Kota places on a nearly daily basis, I've never had problems getting BBFS as long as there is a tip negotiated. How much depends if she's been having a quiet day or not.I'm kind of surprised to hear Bules tend to have a reputation of being stingy as I have heard the opposite from a few Jakarta-experienced friends who are also foreigners and claim Indonesians are poor tippers at these places. But this is not to disagree with you, just to note I am a bit surprised and perhaps have some delusional friends.
As long as we are on the subject, what would be considered a decent tip these days at the Kota places, e. G. , those off of Pangaran Jayakarta (Sari Ayu, LA Bar, etc.)? I usually tip 100,000 these days, a few years back 50,000, and during my transition to 100,000 I often left 70 or 80000. I believe my friends tend to tip around 100,000 nowadays. I do remember though one girl at LA Bar telling me a couple of years ago she usually got 100,000 to 200,000 but I thought she might have been exaggerating to try to get more than 100,000 from me; she didn't seem unhappy with 100,000 though.
she usually got 100,000 to 200,000.Yes, those girls are always telling those tales. But whenever I discuss with the other guys (including Indo guys), it's not really true. The tips do not vary among different venues in kota where the price of the girl / room is similar. There is no difference between the places you just mentioned and the tip you leave at Hotel Classic, Hotel Travel, or any of the kota places where the girls cost less than 500 k to take for the hour. The average tip is between 50 and 100 k. 100 k if she was good. 50 k if she was only ok. Zero if she was terrible or wanted to use a condom for the BJ. If she gave you a fantastic sesson, 200 k tip is up to you, but that's overtipping for sure unless you are paying her extra for some kind of special service like anal.
The more expensive places vary more. In the places where the price of the girl / room is 500 k to 1 million, 100 k is a standard tip, you can give 150 or 200 if she was great. For girls / room over 1 million, 100 k is still acceptable, but they are used to getting 200 k or even more if they are great.
That is for either locals or bules.
Joel Goodsen
10-28-15, 07:09
I'm looking for the name of a place in Jakarta that I was told about. I think it is more of a place for locals than foreigners. It looks like a market area with dimly lit rooms on the ground floor playing loud music, where the girls sit inside on plastic chairs and there are guys outside trying to usher you in as you walk past. Once you go in you and choose a girl, they take you to their room upstairs (its actually the room where they live) for ST.
Sound familiar to anyone? Is this place legit for foreigners to go?
Dg1980.Yes, agree with LA Guy 5. That looks like Kalijodo.
It is in West Jakarta. You can see it from the Jakarta inner ring toll road.
Coming from the airport, heading south in the direction of the city, it's on your left, shortly after the turn off to Jakarta North.
On a map, it's next to Kali Angke, at the back of Jalan Panduan II.
Is it legit for foreigners? Depends. If you are comfortable in Indonesian and street smart. Being a local monger area with small back street alleys, it is not a safe place.
Having said that, not safe, at 150 to 200 k ST, it's likely one of the best value bangs for your buck in Jakarta. And joining a few local mongers for a beer can be fun.
Hi Guys, I had a layover in Jakarta and stayed at the infamous Classic Hotel which I highly recommend. Pulled a beautiful 37 kg (that's 81 pounds for my American friends) 32 D, yes, the Cup, named Keyza, from the third floor and pounded that tight pu**why real good. Sadly she would not let me take her picture even when I begged her with more money. I was hoping she would come to my room after her shift ended but alas no luck. Also got a double massage HJ from two see Cuppers, Annie and Rosie, on the bottom floor. The massage was great and the girls were a lot of fun. The only down-side to Classic is you have to do all your monkey business in the afternoons and evening -- no morning fun. But there are probably more than a 200 girls to choose from. If I ever go to Jakarta again, Hotel Classic is where I'm going to stay.
Member #4537
10-28-15, 16:00
I'm kind of surprised to hear Bules tend to have a reputation of being stingy as I have heard the opposite from a few Jakarta-experienced friends who are also foreigners and claim Indonesians are poor tippers at these places. But this is not to disagree with you, just to note I am a bit surprised and perhaps have some delusional friends.
As long as we are on the subject, what would be considered a decent tip these days at the Kota places, e. G. , those off of Pangaran Jayakarta (Sari Ayu, LA Bar, etc.)? I usually tip 100,000 these days, a few years back 50,000, and during my transition to 100,000 I often left 70 or 80000. I believe my friends tend to tip around 100,000 nowadays. I do remember though one girl at LA Bar telling me a couple of years ago she usually got 100,000 to 200,000 but I thought she might have been exaggerating to try to get more than 100,000 from me; she didn't seem unhappy with 100,000 though.I wouldn't go near the Pangeran Jayakarta places these days for safety reasons.
Anyway, back on topic -- it depends on the girl.
In general though the taller and more beautiful ones tend to be a harder nut to crack when it comes to BBFS (since they make a lot of money anyway), but as long as a tip is negotiated all should be fine. As a minimum I tip 100 k however I have tipped up to 200 k.
If I get spectacular service, like a nice deep rim job for the whole hour, I may tip even more. Totally depends on the girl.
Anyone with any experience here? I like the adventure of places like this, but if its going to be a big risk then ill just stick with the normal options. From the video I have seen of the place it definitely looked to be not set up for foreigners, but then again it was a foreigner making the video. The Indonesian guys outside the places generally seemed a bit shocked to see a foreigner but not aggressive or anything untoward like that. The guy managed to get a ST onsite without any problems. Obviously the proper precautions would be needed etc.
Yes, agree with LA Guy 5. That looks like Kalijodo.
It is in West Jakarta. You can see it from the Jakarta inner ring toll road.
Coming from the airport, heading south in the direction of the city, it's on your left, shortly after the turn off to Jakarta North.
On a map, it's next to Kali Angke, at the back of Jalan Panduan II.
Is it legit for foreigners? Depends. If you are comfortable in Indonesian and street smart. Being a local monger area with small back street alleys, it is not a safe place.
Having said that, not safe, at 150 to 200 k ST, it's likely one of the best value bangs for your buck in Jakarta. And joining a few local mongers for a beer can be fun.
In general though the taller and more beautiful ones tend to be a harder nut to crack Good point. Yes, the girls who are considered more "stereotypically" beautiful may be more stuck on themselves. I forgot to mention that I normally choose the girls that the majority of guys consider to be ugly midgets. Preferably dark skinned, flat chested, and overweight with a wide but flat ass. It's just a kink I guess. At least 40 years old and with small chubby hands and fingers. If they have any warts or tattoos of Hillary Clinton or Oprah Winfrey on their body, all the better. And if they don't have any teeth, that drives me wild. I'll pay extra for that. So base my recommendations on that type of profile.
Hi Guys, I had a layover in Jakarta and stayed at the infamous Classic Hotel which I highly recommend. Pulled a beautiful 37 kg (that's 81 pounds for my American friends) 32 D, yes, the Cup, named Keyza, from the third floor and pounded that tight pu**why real good. Sadly she would not let me take her picture even when I begged her with more money. I was hoping she would come to my room after her shift ended but alas no luck. Also got a double massage HJ from two see Cuppers, Annie and Rosie, on the bottom floor. The massage was great and the girls were a lot of fun. The only down-side to Classic is you have to do all your monkey business in the afternoons and evening -- no morning fun. But there are probably more than a 200 girls to choose from. If I ever go to Jakarta again, Hotel Classic is where I'm going to stay.37 kg with huge knockers? Man, I wish you had gotten that picture.
37 kg with huge knockers? Man, I wish you had gotten that picture.Me, too, Smoothy. If any of you guys that like this type of frame go to Classic and and ask for Keysa. She is tiny, beautiful and stacked beyond belief. They are saggy because she has a kid but her tits must weigh five pounds apiece.
Me, too, Smoothy. If any of you guys that like this type of frame go to Classic and and ask for Keysa. She is tiny, beautiful and stacked beyond belief. They are saggy because she has a kid but her tits must weigh five pounds apiece.Was it this girl? She didn't have a baby when I met her a couple of years ago, but she was the smallest girl with the biggest boobs I've ever met. And she worked at Classic.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1537-Photo-Gallery&p=1417448&viewfull=1#post1417448.
Anyone with any experience here? I like the adventure of places like this, but if its going to be a big risk then ill just stick with the normal options. From the video I have seen of the place it definitely looked to be not set up for foreigners, but then again it was a foreigner making the video. The Indonesian guys outside the places generally seemed a bit shocked to see a foreigner but not aggressive or anything untoward like that. The guy managed to get a ST onsite without any problems. Obviously the proper precautions would be needed etc.If it's your first time in town, you probably don't want to go there. However, if you know a bit about Jakarta, you are looking for some adventure and the cheapest price in town, you can check it out. I don't really feel in danger anywhere in Jakarta relative to other countries. I think it's one of the safest cities in the world. Is Kalijodo down market? For sure. (that's why it's so cheap) People will not speak English there. And just like anywhere in the world when you go to any down market area, you need to assess your environment and keep your eyes open. But the taxi can help point out the safer places and the places with pretty young girls. And the price can't be beaten anywhere in the world. The best thing about kalijodo is every taxi in town will know exactly where it is. If I tell a taxi to take me to Kings Cross, they are highly unlikely to know where to go. But if I tell them take me to Kalijodo, they will absolutely know where to go. And they will know why you want to go there. If you can speak some indonesian, you shouldn't have any trouble getting the taxi to help you find the right spot.
I personally don't mind spending a million rupiah on a girl for an hour in a 5 star environment like Malioboro. So it's not my cup of tea to spend a lot of my time in kalijodo, and I haven't been there in a while. But if you are on a budget and like to live on the wilder side, you may like it. If you can find a buddy to go with you, it will be even better.
I wouldn't go near the Pangeran Jayakarta places these days for safety reasons.
Anyway, back on topic -- it depends on the girl.
In general though the taller and more beautiful ones tend to be a harder nut to crack when it comes to BBFS (since they make a lot of money anyway), but as long as a tip is negotiated all should be fine. As a minimum I tip 100 k however I have tipped up to 200 k.
If I get spectacular service, like a nice deep rim job for the whole hour, I may tip even more. Totally depends on the girl.I never have had a problem at the Pangeran Jayakarta places, nor have any friends I know. My most recent experience there was about a month ago.
However, I am always interested in other people's experiences, and if I missed something would like to know. So, Egy could you please elaborate on your comment you never go there for safety reasons, i.e., what specific dangers are you concerned about?
Member #4537
10-29-15, 07:49
So, Egy could you please elaborate on your comment you never go there for safety reasons, i.e., what specific dangers are you concerned about?You don't want to be caught up in one of the many fights that happen there on a regular basis between the locals when things get ugly. It's already way too packed in there (as there is no entry fee like all the other places) with day labourers and ojek drivers out and about, so it makes sense now why fights are always waiting to happen. Most of these guys have no money and are only there to watch the naked dancers for free. Since it's so crowded in there when fights happen there's a chance you could get hurt somehow.
Besides, the rooms are always filled with cockroaches and things like used condoms on the shower drain. Even some of the towels appear to have poo stains on them.
If you're into downmarket, why not just go to Kalijodo? It's 150 k cheaper for every girl and nearly all taxis know how to get there unlike the Kota places.
If you don't want to go all the way to Kalijodo, the nearby M-Star in Mangga Dua doesn't have any of these problems and the rooms are just as clean as Malioboro, Classic and King's Cross.
Not the same girl unless she changed a lot from your pics. The one I had was an even smaller frame and an even cuter face and smaller aerola (sp). Ask the mamasan when you are there.
Was it this girl? She didn't have a baby when I met her a couple of years ago, but she was the smallest girl with the biggest boobs I've ever met. And she worked at Classic.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1537-Photo-Gallery&p=1417448&viewfull=1#post1417448..
I wouldn't go near the Pangeran Jayakarta places these days for safety reasons.I have to admit that it has been about two years ago that I went there, but I have never sensed any risky atmosphere there.
I have to admit that it has been about two years ago that I went there, but I have never sensed any risky atmosphere there.I concur Menteng, the PangJay strip is certainly trouble free albeit rather dusty. I'm wondering if EgyMonger hasn't stopped off there on his near daily sojourns. I walk from the KRL station along PangJay to get the midday IcedTea massage package at the Orchardz (Spa behind the hotel in basement). For me it can compete with what's on offer in Bangkok. I just rarely seem to get there on the day you get to see and choose the girls (anyone know?) PangJay Street also rates very highly on the domestic mongering forums.
The only area in Jakarta I feel unsafe is oddly the upmarket malls such as Senayan and PlazaIndonesia as there's often effeminite gentlemen pickpockets loitering around the coffee shops and money changers. I'm conscious if something untoward did happen the security guards would just bottle it.
Thanks Mr. Smoothy.
And what about Pen-jay bars? Anyone here with experience there? How does that compare? I do like to live on the wilder side, but my Jakarta experience is somewhat limited. Don't care about the price. You could just as easily find me at Alexis.
If it's your first time in town, you probably don't want to go there. However, if you know a bit about Jakarta, you are looking for some adventure and the cheapest price in town, you can check it out. I don't really feel in danger anywhere in Jakarta relative to other countries. I think it's one of the safest cities in the world. Is Kalijodo down market? For sure. (that's why it's so cheap) People will not speak English there. And just like anywhere in the world when you go to any down market area, you need to assess your environment and keep your eyes open. But the taxi can help point out the safer places and the places with pretty young girls. And the price can't be beaten anywhere in the world. The best thing about kalijodo is every taxi in town will know exactly where it is. If I tell a taxi to take me to Kings Cross, they are highly unlikely to know where to go. But if I tell them take me to Kalijodo, they will absolutely know where to go. And they will know why you want to go there. If you can speak some indonesian, you shouldn't have any trouble getting the taxi to help you find the right spot.
I personally don't mind spending a million rupiah on a girl for an hour in a 5 star environment like Malioboro. So it's not my cup of tea to spend a lot of my time in kalijodo, and I haven't been there in a while. But if you are on a budget and like to live on the wilder side, you may like it. If you can find a buddy to go with you, it will be even better.
The only area in Jakarta I feel unsafe is oddly the upmarket malls such as Senayan and PlazaIndonesia as there's often effeminite gentlemen pickpockets loitering around the coffee shops and money changers. I'm conscious if something untoward did happen the security guards would just bottle it.Those ladyboys are best avoided at all times. Even driving past them at Taman Lawang at night can be dangerous. It's best to take the long way around.
Since I will be leaving for Jakarta soon, just a quick re-cap on the Halloween suggestions. Thanks for your input on this.
I like the sounds of BATS and Dragonfly, so these are on my shortlist to start the Saturday evening. Depending on how I like the atmosphere (and to be honest how tired I might be after a 24 HR commute) afterwards and / or alternatively I may consider BFashion (which I thought of trying anyways) or Illegals.
If anybody is interested in meeting up, please feel free to contact me.
Best regards,
Thommy
Joel Goodsen
10-30-15, 03:45
Anyone with any experience here? I like the adventure of places like this, but if its going to be a big risk then ill just stick with the normal options.The safety comment was just added for diplomacy. If you go with the notion, there may be some people wanting to make your pockets a little lighter or spike your drink, you will be absolutely fine.
Pen-jay bars, Alexis, Malioboro, Classic, Travel, Berlian, Kartika, etc, etc, the kota places, are worth a visit, if relatviely new in town, but they tend have a very obvious commercial setup. A soapy massage can be fun though.
LifeIsABeach
10-30-15, 03:57
Anyone with any experience here? I like the adventure of places like this, but if its going to be a big risk then ill just stick with the normal options. From the video I have seen of the place it definitely looked to be not set up for foreigners, but then again it was a foreigner making the video. The Indonesian guys outside the places generally seemed a bit shocked to see a foreigner but not aggressive or anything untoward like that. The guy managed to get a ST onsite without any problems. Obviously the proper precautions would be needed etc.The place sounds a bit like what Dolly's used to in Surabya where there about 1000 girls available and the mongers were mostly locals. I went there many times when in Surabaya about 12 years ago, the fare was 80 k - 100 k for an hour. I never saw any foreigners there. The girls either had rooms at the back or upstairs. You could buy beer or food too. I would go there from about 9. 00 pm at night and get back to the hotel about 5. 00 in the morning. I would screw a girl, wash my dick thoroughly and then sit with the locals, have a beer, some food and chit chat and then repeat with the next girl. I'll give it a shot when I get to CJK next month. I do not have problems with being with locals. I like the unbeaten path. When I was in Cuba, I would go to the local area and while walking, the number of locals behind me would multiply. No one did any harm. They were just curious.
Thanks Mr. Smoothy.
And what about Pen-jay bars? Anyone here with experience there? How does that compare? I do like to live on the wilder side, but my Jakarta experience is somewhat limited. Don't care about the price. You could just as easily find me at Alexis.You will find it called PenJ, PenJay, Pangeran and Jl Pangeran-Jayakarta. PenJ bars names are Sari Ayu (SA), LA, ROYAL, MTR.
Bars in this ruko all have similar feel to them, but they either play dangdut or kota techno music. You enter, there are lounge type booths with a bar in the middle or at the end, full of smoke and local men drinking, often with girls sitting at their booths. Sometimes a stage for pole dancing, and somewhere at the back a mini fishbowl, or just the girls gathered on the lounges together.
Sit down and have a warm Anchor beer. Mama, in a plain boring uniform, will come over for a chat and bring some girls to you or try to drag you to the fishbowl room. Or if you check out the fishbowl on the way to the toilet, then Mama will pounce and see what your looking at. More often than not she will grab a girl and have her sit next to you and put her arm around you whilst you choose. Usual story of girls looking bored on their mobile phones.
After you choose, off to the guy behind the bars and the girl gets given a room key and a fresh towel. Up through the rabbit warren to a small bonking room. Room will have a small shower, mattress on the floor or on a base, small mirror, etc. Some have VIP rooms from memory, but I never tried those rooms.
I tip 100 k, ML is 350 k-380 k. Places close at about 2 am from memory, busiest around 10 pm, I don't know if their open daytimes though? Totally safe IMHO, Clubs have all have their own black t-shirt security once inside, and the street feels quite safe and reasonably well lit. The street is easy to find, and taxis easy in and out.
Comparisons PenJ to KFC.
PenJ safer, more organized and girls seem relatively normal, can go from one place to another easily to find one you like, rooms have showers and the beer is colder.
KFC is wilder, more premen on the streets, less safe but not unsafe if your streetwise, more places to discover, some of the girls seem more desperate and some on drugs, some girls on the street as well trying to woo their customers, cheaper (200 k ML), bonking in the girls room with often no shower in the room, and the beer is warmer.
And what about Pen-jay bars? Anyone here with experience there? How does that compare? I do like to live on the wilder side, but my Jakarta experience is somewhat limited. Don't care about the price. You could just as easily find me at Alexis.Particularly if you are fine with a place frequented by locals, and perhaps a tad adventurous, I would recommend Pen-jay, including the bars Sari-Ayu and LA Bar, among others. Prices are about the same as Classic although I'm unaware of any price breaks like Classic's if you bring two girls to the room. Rooms are generally a step or two down from Classic, unless you take the VIP room at LA Bar, which is reasonably nice and an option I usually take. A mama or papa-san or two may speak some English, but although I have had sessions with girls there who were fluent in English, most girls speak very little if any English.
In my experience the service and attitudes of the girls at these establishments is better than at Classic, maybe much better, but there is, of course, variability.
When you first mentioned what turned out to be Kalijodo, my first reaction is you probably should try the Pen-jay places first. If you want something grittier then perhaps Kalijodo, although as noted earlier it is not a certainty that it is still open (the government keeps saying they are going to close it down, sometimes setting dates by which they are going to do so, but they have missed at least some of those dates).
The place sounds a bit like what Dolly's used to in Surabya where there about 1000 girls available and the mongers were mostly locals. I went there many times when in Surabaya about 12 years ago, the fare was 80 k - 100 k for an hour. I never saw any foreigners there. The girls either had rooms at the back or upstairs. You could buy beer or food too. I would go there from about 9. 00 pm at night and get back to the hotel about 5. 00 in the morning. I would screw a girl, wash my dick thoroughly and then sit with the locals, have a beer, some food and chit chat and then repeat with the next girl. I'll give it a shot when I get to CJK next month. I do not have problems with being with locals. I like the unbeaten path. When I was in Cuba, I would go to the local area and while walking, the number of locals behind me would multiply. No one did any harm. They were just curious.Yep, if you were OK in Dolly, you'll be OK in Kalijodo.
KFC is wilder, more premen on the streets, less safe but not unsafe if your streetwise, more places to discover, some of the girls seem more desperate and some on drugs, some girls on the street as well trying to woo their customers, cheaper (200 k ML), bonking in the girls room with often no shower in the room, and the beer is warmer.Kalijodo is definitely wild west. If you are looking for an adventure. I used to love dirty and cheap places like that and would go out of my way to visit those type of places. For whatever reason, I felt like I was exploring new territory and living on the edge. Since I haven't been in a while, I may be game to head up there with another monger.
There are so many places you can try in Jakarta if you want to find a change of venue. Many of them are spas where the girls screw you at the end of a massage, some of them are strictly sex like Classic. It's tough to swing a dead cat in Jakarta without finding a brothel. Here are just a few. I suggest trying them all at least once.
FASHION HOTEL AND SPA.
https://www.facebook.com/Fashion-SPA-225259717599262/photos
http://fashionhotelandspa.********.com/2013/02/foto-therapist-fashion.html
Paradise Spa.
RUKAN Sunter Permai Blok E 15,16,17 jln danau Sunter utara.
http://paradisesunternew.********.com/2014/03/new-therapists.html
Ruko Robinson area is another place you can try. Here's one example, but there are other places in that area.
GRIYA SEHAT.
http://gsspa168.********.com/p/blog-page.html
Jl. Bandengan Selatan.
Komplek Ruko robinson No. 82.
Blok CS / CT / CR jak-ut.
Tropical Spa. Roxy Mas.
JL. KH Hasyim Ashari.
Komplek Ruko Roxy Mas.
Block. C1 No. 19/21 Jakarta Pusat.
Tematik.
http://spatematik.********.co.id/p/eve.html
Jl. Jembatan Tiga Raya No. 35.
Jakarta Utara.
I haven't tried this one yet, but my buddy enjoyed it and I like the pic of the chick with the nice boobs.
http://dsensualpik.********.com/
It's way up near waterboom though. Ruko Ekslusif Blok be no. 37 Pantai Indah Kapuk.
I hear that Kings Cross has now raised their price to 800 k. I still recommend other places in Kelapa Gading like MTR2 and the'Heaven spa. But it looks like I won't be going to Kings Cross anymore. It's a shame because I had some good experiences there. But again, time moves on and new places open. If they want to jack their prices, I'll go elsewhere.
Looks like most of my links were edited out, but it's easy to get the idea.
Since I will arrive on Halloween, Saturday Oct 31st, I was wondering if any of you are aware of any special Halloween events The wait staff at Star Deli were looking pretty good last night.
I have been wanting to visit Jakarta for a number of years even though I hear the city itself isn't the most desirable place in the world to visit. Needless to say, I have read the forum back for the last 90+ days but still have three simple question that I need to ask and I am hopeful I will get some responses.
1. I have seen numerous references to "BBFS" being available for additional amounts at various places. While I have enjoyed the pleasures of BBBJ from girls all over the world, I have never taken the risk of going in bareback and don't recall it ever being offered. Is it really that common in Jakarata and why in the world would anyone be this wreckless? Am I missing something?
2. I have sifted through pages of info and found a handful of places that I am interested in visiting. My question is, where do the wealthy local men of Jakarta go for the most beautiful women when money isn't an issue? Like I found in Bangkok, there are places that just don't get mentioned on ISG where wealthy local men go that are kept sort of quiet from forums like this. Does anyone know of any places?
3. I have seven free days? How many days should I stay in Jakarata before flying over to Bangkok?
Thanks for any information you are willing to share.
John Aldrich
10-31-15, 18:51
I have been wanting to visit Jakarta for a number of years even though I hear the city itself isn't the most desirable place in the world to visit. Needless to say, I have read the forum back for the last 90+ days but still have three simple question that I need to ask and I am hopeful I will get some responses.
1. I have seen numerous references to "BBFS" being available for additional amounts at various places. While I have enjoyed the pleasures of BBBJ from girls all over the world, I have never taken the risk of going in bareback and don't recall it ever being offered. Is it really that common in Jakarata and why in the world would anyone be this wreckless? Am I missing something?
2. I have sifted through pages of info and found a handful of places that I am interested in visiting. My question is, where do the wealthy local men of Jakarta go for the most beautiful women when money isn't an issue? Like I found in Bangkok, there are places that just don't get mentioned on ISG where wealthy local men go that are kept sort of quiet from forums like this. Does anyone know of any places?
3. I have seven free days? How many days should I stay in Jakarata before flying over to Bangkok?
Thanks for any information you are willing to share.To respond to your query point by point, please see hereunder.
1) It's all about poverty and the extra bucks one could make for the next meal or bare necessities. In any case they are living in hell.
2) For top end, you can visit Alexis or Malioboro. At Alexis, I always preferred the sensual massage with FS with the Chinese girls in the 5th floor. That's much more satisfying than the ones you pick up from the 7th floor. Though, the 7th floor has a multi national set of girls including Turkish, Uzbeks, former USSR, ASEAN and Indo girls. But my experience has been that the 7th floor girls go through the motion as a ritual, and fake it with all the moans, though they they are not actually enjoying it.
3) You can try the various spots which are mentioned in the forum and for many, 7 days ate also less.
Have fun.
Cheers.
Member #4537
11-01-15, 05:29
1) It's all about poverty and the extra bucks one could make for the next meal or bare necessities. In any case they are living in hell.Next meal or the next Gucci handbag?
Regardless if it's a CJ's chic or a SariAyu ayam, it's all about greed. Why work for 12 hours a day at Indomaret for 1.2 million a month when you could get the same amount each day opening your legs for a few minutes? Hey, doctors here make around 10 million, so it's only 10 days work for them.
Ask business owners in the service industry how it's becoming increasingly difficult finding young waitresses these days. They all want the big bucks from doing tricks so they can buy the brand name stuff.
By the way, a fresh plate of soto ayam and some rice cost only 15,000 in Jakarta. What poverty are you talking about?
Even regular civilians I meet aren't too keen on using condoms. Want to know the real reason why? Birth control pills / morning after pills are dead cheap and found in nearly every street corner in Jakarta.
For top end, you can visit Alexis or Malioboro. At Alexis, I always preferred the sensual massage with FS with the Chinese girls in the 5th floor. That's much more satisfying than the ones you pick up from the 7th floor. Though, the 7th floor has a multi national set of girls including Turkish, Uzbeks, former USSR, ASEAN and Indo girls. But my experience has been that the 7th floor girls go through the motion as a ritual, and fake it with all the moans, though they they are not actually enjoying it.
The only time I've been at Alexis I was on the 7th floor only. I felt it cost too much for too little. Do you know how much the Chinese girls on the 5th floor go for these days? I might consider giving them a try.
...I have never taken the risk of going in bareback and don't recall it ever being offered. Is it really that common in Jakarata and why in the world would anyone be this wreckless? Am I missing something?Indeed, you are. These questions have been discussed many times in the various ISG forums. If you have something to add, just tell us why you go for bareback, or why you don't as the case may be. And then move on to other topics. No need to elaborate or analyze.
...in Bangkok, there are places that just don't get mentioned on ISG where wealthy local men go that are kept sort of quiet from forums like this. Does anyone know of any places?It looks like you answered your own question in the same sentence. Very efficient.
Even regular civilians I meet aren't too keen on using condoms. Want to know the real reason why? Birth control pills / morning after pills are dead cheap and found in nearly every street corner in Jakarta.I doubt that that is the reason. Is that what you are thinking about when you have BBFS?
I always compare it with fondling a breast from outside the bra. You want to touch and feel the breast directly without a layer in between.
IllusionHeart
11-01-15, 11:46
The only time I've been at Alexis I was on the 7th floor only. I felt it cost too much for too little. Do you know how much the Chinese girls on the 5th floor go for these days? I might consider giving them a try.Last time I took a import (viet) it costed me approx IDR 2. 4 Mn just for the girl. All imports (EE, Thai, Viet and PRC) cost the same and pricing is segregated only between Local and Imports.
You have a base price now to begin with.
John Aldrich
11-01-15, 18:23
The only time I've been at Alexis I was on the 7th floor only. I felt it cost too much for too little. Do you know how much the Chinese girls on the 5th floor go for these days? I might consider giving them a try.I was last there in June and it was 2.1 million, but was worth every penny.
I was last there in June and it was 2. 1 million, but was worth every penny.I have also only ever been to the 7th floor. Is the 5th floor the same procedure only with just PRC? Choose a girl, relax by the pool and then ST?
1. Is it really that common in Jakarata
2. I have sifted through pages of info and found a handful of places that I am interested in visiting. My question is, where do the wealthy local men of Jakarta go for the most beautiful women when money isn't an issue? .Answering your 1st question. If you want to use a condom, then do so, you won't find any girl refusing you service if you want to use a condom.
Your 2nd question would be Alexis if it was me.
2. I have sifted through pages of info and found a handful of places that I am interested in visiting. My question is, where do the wealthy local men of Jakarta go for the most beautiful women when money isn't an issue? Like I found in Bangkok, there are places that just don't get mentioned on ISG where wealthy local men go that are kept sort of quiet from forums like this. Does anyone know of any places?
Is it out of curiosity that you ask that? Or would you like to spend a lot? If the latter, see if Hartono still exists. Maybe another member of ISG can help you? And I remember some guy in this thread, offering high prized girls and if I'm not mistaken there was someone else offering models and starlets from soapies. If they read this maybe they can pm you.
I'm an older American with no Indonesian to speak of, and my days with FLs from places like BASL are long behind me. So after RTFF-ing, I targeted Classic Spa, among other places. After two visits during the week, I'm very grateful to all the posters who got me there. If you leave the Sewah Besar train station toward the south, take a left at the end of the road and Classic Hotel is on left about 150 m down the road. Both visits started around 5 pm and ended around 7:30, and both were for 800 k for the mid-range beauties. In the fist visit to the basement spa, I drew from a line-up of about a dozen ladies, although there were well over 50 in the viewing room. Mega was my choice, a statuesque brunette with a wonderful bottom, my weakness for sure. In the room, she was attentive and skilled without quite getting to GFE even though her English is very limited. I left a very happy fellow. The second visit started on floor 2 with a play for 2 WGs for 525 k. There were almost 2 dozen 20-something WGs on duty, including a couple of stunners, but mama-san would only bring them to my table one at a time, with no explanation on the quality. As soon as I called for DATY every prospect took off. Eventually, one young lady agreed, but I wanted a twosome. I started to cash out for my water, but then mama-san came up with a lady who said she would accommodate me. Then mama-san wanted full payment up front. I've been with WGs at spas from one end of Java to the other, and have never had to pay up front. Considering the difficulty of these negotiations, there was no was way I would do it. So I cashed out, and went down to the basement spa again. Although there were again over 50 WGs in the viewing room, this time my line-up had only 3, and 2 were too heavy for my taste. The lady of choice was LaLa, an attractive spinner who would look better with a few more toned kgs. Considering that her best quality was her conversational English, mama-san surely rigged the choice to pair me with her best chance at a connection. LaLa and I made connections galore in just about every configuration you can imagine, licking and slurping all the while. After our third position, she came down with sore-pussy syndrome, so I proposed to finish in BBBJCIM, and she did swallow every last drop. Then she filled every one of our remaining 90 min with a satisfying full-body massage and more chit-chat. She's my favorite Indo WG of all. By the time both visits ended, there were about 100 WGs in the viewing area. When I asked why I only got a line-up of 3 on my second visit, I found out that there are several independent mama-sans on the floor, and each one controls a contingent. So it appears that if you don't like your line up, you just need to pick another mama-san.
John Aldrich
11-02-15, 17:41
I have also only ever been to the 7th floor. Is the 5th floor the same procedure only with just PRC? Choose a girl, relax by the pool and then ST?No. It's different. As you come out of the elevator in the fifth floor, there is a reception. You tell the receptionist that you require a massage. They either have a helicopter massage or a silky touch massage. They keep changing between the two on the menu. You pay up there and you are ushered into a room. All the available Chinese girls are lined up. You choose your pick and others leave. You are given a shower by the girl. She showers with you. She then gives you a very sensual massage with herbs and the package also includes a tongue massage with milk applied on your body. And if the helicopter massage is what's on offer, then the girl goes upside down hanging from a makeshift swing and gives a blow job as she hangs upside down in an acrobatic fashion. She then gets down and let's you fuck her they way you want. It's 90 minutes of sensual pleasure. Allgirls that I have taken, have done justice by ensuring the 90 minutes tge time that we are there is value for money. The girl leaves only after 90 minutes and the entire process takes entire 90 minutes.
I have been to 7th floor a couple of times. Both times the girls wanted to leave after the first pop, which is normally over in 15 to 20 minutes.
I tried the 5th floor and after my experience there, I stopped venturing to the 7th floor. Hope you feel the same.
Cheers.
It seems that ISG was blocked both by Favehotel Pasar Baru and initially also by my hotel here in Bandung.
Reports will therefore be delayed (due to commitments so far only 1 x classification & 1 x Kimocho anyways), but since it is currently working and in case I don't get the issues again in Artotel:
If any one is interested in Meeting up Either tomorrow evening or possibly on Friday (I have a Date during the day, but may be interested to follow up in the evening), please drop me a pm (and hold your thumbs that Artotel has a lenient Internet policy).
Focus would rather be on bars / clubs, preferably in the north (e. G. Malioboro? Golden crown?) Please feel free to drop me a pm.
Best Regards.
Thommy.
LifeIsABeach
11-05-15, 07:44
All right, who is paying USD 300.00 for one night to the Jakartan WGs? While talking to a woman on DIA she tells me that her friend was paid USD 300.00 for one night as she saw it in her purse. They go clubbing / partying maybe at bars too. Is this the new hell pussy all nighter in Jakarta and which girls command that so that I can avoid them and where?
All right, who is paying USD 300.00 for one night to the Jakartan WGs? While talking to a woman on DIA she tells me that her friend was paid USD 300.00 for one night as she saw it in her purse. They go clubbing / partying maybe at bars too. Is this the new hell pussy all nighter in Jakarta and which girls command that so that I can avoid them and where?There are always going to be guys like that who way overpay. But the girls know damn well that's a rare occasion. That is not their going rate.
There are always going to be guys like that who way overpay. But the girls know damn well that's a rare occasion. That is not their going rate.I was in Jakarta two months ago and met a 22 year old at CJ's, named Intan. First night, just got her number.
Second night we started from dinner to bar and clubbing and had a blast. Eventually ended up in my place.
She spent the night and stayed with me till the early afternoon without mentioning money at all.
I gave her 1. 3 M when she was leaving. No complaints at all. Met her couple more times afterwards. Same story.
We just clicked. If there is no chemistry as the girls there are somewhat selective, just move on to the next one instead of overpaying.
LifeIsABeach
11-08-15, 05:02
Different countries, different traditions. Do people wear shorts during the days in the hot weather or still have to wear trousers? I do not want to look out of place. Plus, are there restrictions on the dress code during the day at mongering and sight seeing places like only pants, no shorts even in hot weather? Thanks for your help.
Blanquiceleste
11-08-15, 13:30
Different countries, different traditions. Do people wear shorts during the days in the hot weather or still have to wear trousers? I do not want to look out of place. Plus, are there restrictions on the dress code during the day at mongering and sight seeing places like only pants, no shorts even in hot weather? Thanks for your help.If you are visiting a club. Any club, then the dress code applies.
Member #4410
11-08-15, 22:55
Different countries, different traditions. Do people wear shorts during the days in the hot weather or still have to wear trousers? I do not want to look out of place. Plus, are there restrictions on the dress code during the day at mongering and sight seeing places like only pants, no shorts even in hot weather? Thanks for your help.It is nearly always advisable to wear (lightweight) long trousers wherever you go. One reason is that you're less vulnerable to mosquitos and other vermin. The other reason is that people will not look down on you, even though you're (I presume) white.
In Indonesia only workmen and some tourists wear short trousers. As soon as an Indonesian reaches any sort of professional level, they switch to long trousers. Even the office boy at my company's local office wears long trousers. Curiously enough, jackets with short sleeves are generally accepted, although batik long sleeve is preferred for official occasions.
Koperen Karel,
I always appreciate your postings. I thought you could update on the recent police raid on Dees Place in Blok M, unfortunately drugs were found and the premises were open after 2 am. It may be that the local constabulary are forced to set an example and close it down temporarily.
As you have an interest in the venue and rate it highly I was wondering if you could enlighten us further.
PM for anyone requiring more info.
Tambora
Hi!
I been to Jakarta recently and have dropped message through wechat by their "friend radar service". I am fortunate to have reply from nice chick, obvious it's paid but it's worthy. Hope my review will help my reader.
Getting back to actual conversations about mongering, this Sunday I went to the place that had that Jupe look alike. I went there special for her, but it seems she's not working there anymore. I have to say I was disappointed, and I didn't see any other girls there I liked so I went elsewhere. I wish I'd have gotten her number.
On another topic, it seems Kings Cross has raised it's price now to a million rupiah. What the hell? It was 350 k just a year ago. There are some stunners there without a doubt, but I'd prefer to go to Malioboro for that price.
Hi!
I been to Jakarta recently and have dropped message through wechat by their "friend radar service". I am fortunate to have reply from nice chick, obvious it's paid but it's worthy. Hope my review will help my reader.I've done that and it was a scam. Different girls than the photo's showed up and the only real thing was their overly high prices.
Member #4410
11-10-15, 21:44
I will WhatsApp some of the girls. Replies will follow.On their Facebook page there is an announcement (19 hours old) of the ladies pool tournament.
On their Facebook page there is an announcement (19 hours old) of the ladies pool tournament.Is it true they are going to rename D's place to DD's place in honor of your....figure?
Member #4410
11-14-15, 00:58
On their Facebook page there is an announcement (19 hours old) of the ladies pool tournament.
I received a WhatsApp message frome one of the dancers confirming that the bar is open as normal.
LuigiScore
11-18-15, 06:21
If your going to only monger I would say Thailand, Philippines is better. However if you are in 30's-50 like GF Exp, kissing, BBBJ, tight pussy and possible day game, then you might like Indonesia better (FYI I haven't been to Philippines yet).
I did not like Bats girls asking for 2. 5 kuta short time because she told me others have payed that. Top gun seemed to have as many good looking girls younger and many for cheaper. There are some stunners that are stubborn and will not budge from there 1.5 kuta or 1 kuta price and would rather go home alone a few nights in a row than to take less. I would go for the girls that were hot enough and could take home 500 long time and short time, sometime a little more 600-700 plus taxi. I don't think its possible even with less attractive one to go for less than 400. If they go for less, maybe they would be old ugly looking. I did take a couple freebies but that's a later story.
Don't make the mistake of buying the girl a cocktail 10 us dollars, before you negotiate (I'm glad I did not buy her friend a drink also) There was no deal, she did not want to give me a price no matter how much I insisted, she wanted me to through out a crazy price, finally I said 500 short time thinking she would counter around 7 or 8 but she turned her back on me a called me a because word after I had just bought her a drink, so I got her / my drink and dumped it Ha ha since I paid for it. OK no deal but don't be a ***** about it. What are you saving if you keep buying any girl you talk to drinks. I got good at it where I ask to negotiate a deal before they ask me to buy them a drink, and if they asked, I would say first lets make a deal then I buy you a drink. If they acted bitchy, then maybe its not the girl you want to take home. If deal was not made, sometimes they would look for me later trying to cut a deal. I bought bottles a couple of times and did not mind sharing while negotiating, but I hold the cards at that point. I did not get to hotel Mulia which I hear its great on weds. I don't mind sometimes throwing 1 kuta down on a hot stunner if I feel I will have a good time. I also went to some massage parlors. But that will be on my next post.
Greetings Everyone,
I have cleaned up this thread by deleting a number of pointless exchanges.
If you find that you own post was inadvertently deleted, please don't take it personally.
No let's get back to the subject of getting laid.
Thanks,
Jax
Trawlerman
11-19-15, 00:39
Hello Jakarta mongers.
Have a one-day stopover in Jakarta on Tuesday night but I get in quite late. 9. 30 pm arrival so I guess it will be pushing midnight by the time I arrive at my hotel. I've been RTFFing but can't find much information about what options there are at that time. This is my first time in your city and so I'd just like a taste of what the scene is like here. Any info appreciated. PM if you like. Currently, I'm planning to stay at the All Seasons Tharmin but could easily switch to another hotel if advised.
TM.
Blanquiceleste
11-19-15, 01:03
If your going to only monger I would say Thailand, Philippines is better. However if you are in 30's-50 like GF Exp, kissing, BBBJ, tight pussy and possible day game, then you might like Indonesia better (FYI I haven't been to Philippines yet).
I did not like Bats girls asking for 2. 5 kuta short time because she told me others have payed that. Top gun seemed to have as many good looking girls younger and many for cheaper. There are some stunners that are stubborn and will not budge from there 1.5 kuta or 1 kuta price and would rather go home alone a few nights in a row than to take less. I would go for the girls that were hot enough and could take home 500 long time and short time, sometime a little more 600-700 plus taxi. I don't think its possible even with less attractive one to go for less than 400. If they go for less, maybe they would be old ugly looking. I did take a couple freebies but that's a later story.
Don't make the mistake of buying the girl a cocktail 10 us dollars, before you negotiate (I'm glad I did not buy her friend a drink also) There was no deal, she did not want to give me a price no matter how much I insisted, she wanted me to through out a crazy price, finally I said 500 short time thinking she would counter around 7 or 8 but she turned her back on me a called me a because word after I had just bought her a drink, so I got her / my drink and dumped it Ha ha since I paid for it. OK no deal but don't be a ***** about it. What are you saving if you keep buying any girl you talk to drinks. I got good at it where I ask to negotiate a deal before they ask me to buy them a drink, and if they asked, I would say first lets make a deal then I buy you a drink. If they acted bitchy, then maybe its not the girl you want to take home. If deal was not made, sometimes they would look for me later trying to cut a deal. I bought bottles a couple of times and did not mind sharing while negotiating, but I hold the cards at that point. I did not get to hotel Mulia which I hear its great on weds. I don't mind sometimes throwing 1 kuta down on a hot stunner if I feel I will have a good time. I also went to some massage parlors. But that will be on my next post.With all due respect a few points on the FR:
1. The term is JUTA (Million is Bahasa). Not kuta. Kuta is a place is Bali.
2. The prices you mention - 1 mn for a hot stunner giving you a a good time. Not going to happen. I really do not know what you consider as a stunner, but a little RTFF Will tell you a few things about places & pricing.
3. A deal before a drink? IMHO a drink is a conversation starter, a social lubricant. So the price of a drink is really a conversation tax. There is no escaping it if you intend to pick girls at a club, any club.
4. The opening lines comparing Thailand & Indonesia. Mate, I did not get it at all. What are you trying to say? "GF Exp, kissing, BBBJ, tight pussy and possible day game" IS part of the mongering.
5. It is a good thing you did not go to Mulia, yet. You might get a stroke hearing the prices. A drink alone can cost you 200 K IDR.
Finally, one question for you. Did you get laid yet in Jakarta?
Hello Jakarta mongers.
Have a one-day stopover in Jakarta on Tuesday night but I get in quite late. 9. 30 pm arrival so I guess it will be pushing midnight by the time I arrive at my hotel. I've been RTFFing but can't find much information about what options there are at that time. This is my first time in your city and so I'd just like a taste of what the scene is like here. Any info appreciated. PM if you like. Currently, I'm planning to stay at the All Seasons Tharmin but could easily switch to another hotel if advised.
TM.Freelancer bars start kicking at midnight.
Your close to the Shang, so options there.
Your about 15 mins to Kota area, with lots of options there.
If your main question is. What's available after midnight? Then just about everything on this list is, except some massage places will close around then.
Trawlerman
11-19-15, 02:29
Freelancer bars start kicking at midnight.
Your close to the Shang, so options there.
Your about 15 mins to Kota area, with lots of options there.
If your main question is. What's available after midnight? Then just about everything on this list is, except some massage places will close around then.Thank you. Just what I needed to hear.
TM.
Hello Jakarta mongers.
Have a one-day stopover in Jakarta on Tuesday night but I get in quite late. 9. 30 pm arrival so I guess it will be pushing midnight by the time I arrive at my hotel. I've been RTFFing but can't find much information about what options there are at that time. This is my first time in your city and so I'd just like a taste of what the scene is like here. Any info appreciated. PM if you like. Currently, I'm planning to stay at the All Seasons Tharmin but could easily switch to another hotel if advised.
TM.One thing I'll add to what has already been posted is assuming you do arrive at 9:30 pm, you likely will be at your hotel closer to 11 pm than midnight, assuming you run like a bat out of hell from the plane to immigration (to avoid long immigration lines). or at least walk fast. The traffic shouldn't be too bad at that time of night, and traffic is one of the things that can really slow things down.
On the other hand, if a number of planes land just before yours, you might still end up on a long line at immigration, which could add some time before reaching your final destination.
One other thing is although some people prefer the Blue Bird or Express taxis to Silver Birds for reasons of cost (although a Silver Bird will not cost more than about $25 US to get you to your hotel), typically there are shorter lines for the Silver Birds, and besides you might prefer to go to your destination in a Mercedes than a lesser car. Just look for the Silver Bird sign (near the curb) as you leave immigration and the terminal. I believe it will be towards your left as you leave the terminal (at least based on the door I exit from).
Definitely Silverbird. Why waste time and its not that much money? Especially after a long flight you will appreciate the comfort as you get stuck in Jakarta traffic.
One thing I'll add to what has already been posted is assuming you do arrive at 9:30 pm, you likely will be at your hotel closer to 11 pm than midnight, assuming you run like a bat out of hell from the plane to immigration (to avoid long immigration lines). or at least walk fast. The traffic shouldn't be too bad at that time of night, and traffic is one of the things that can really slow things down.
Unless you like making an idiot out of yourself, I wouldn't run anywhere at all at Jakarta Airport. I am usually through immigration in a matter of seconds (Sapphire) and if I have check-in luggage I am still waiting at the carousel right next to the fools who were elbowing everyone trying to get to immigration as quick as possible. You might save 5 or 10 minutes at immigration if you don't have check-in luggage, but is it really worth it?
Long lines at the Bluebird / Express stand at arrivals? Take the elevator 1 floor up and get in a bluebird that has just dropped off departing passengers. Better yet, order an Uber of which there are always plenty around any of the terminals.
Unless you like making an idiot out of yourself, I wouldn't run anywhere at all at Jakarta Airport. I am usually through immigration in a matter of seconds (Sapphire) and if I have check-in luggage I am still waiting at the carousel right next to the fools who were elbowing everyone trying to get to immigration as quick as possible. You might save 5 or 10 minutes at immigration if you don't have check-in luggage, but is it really worth it?
Long lines at the Bluebird / Express stand at arrivals? Take the elevator 1 floor up and get in a bluebird that has just dropped off departing passengers. Better yet, order an Uber of which there are always plenty around any of the terminals.Well I suppose if one hires a facilitator that is reliable (I assume that is what Sapphire is) one might not have to run to immigration. However, as one who doesn't hire a facilitator on the grounds it is unnecessary and wasteful spending, I can say on some occasions I have run to immigration, and was really glad I did as within a couple of minutes there were around 200 people in line behind me. This will depend though on which airline you fly; for example if you arrive on a Japanese airline, the vast majority of the passengers will enter as non-resident foreigners and therefore will go to the same line as most other foreigners will.
On those few occasions where there was another airplane or two that arrived before me, my luggage was already at the baggage carousel when I finally made it there. On the other hand, when I have gotten through immigration quickly, typically I have only had to wait five or ten minutes before my luggage arrived. Then again, I always fly business class so my luggage is usually among the first on the luggage carousel. No need to wait long for it.
But thanks for pointing out that anyone who runs to immigration so as to avoid the possibility of waiting on a long immigration line is making an idiot of themselves. Very constructive comment that has little merit if one is on a tight schedule. And if you want to talk about making an idiot of yourself (as you apparently do), claiming that people elbow you to get to immigration quickly certainly fits the bill; it might come as a surprise to you but walking fast or even running to immigration does not constitute "elbowing." There is plenty of room at the Jakarta airport to walk fast or run without colliding with others.
Well I suppose if one hires a facilitator that is reliable (I assume that is what Sapphire is) one might not have to run to immigration. However, as one who doesn't hire a facilitator on the grounds it is unnecessary and wasteful spending, I can say on some occasions I have run to immigration, and was really glad I did as within a couple of minutes there were around 200 people in line behind me. This will depend though on which airline you fly; for example if you arrive on a Japanese airline, the vast majority of the passengers will enter as non-resident foreigners and therefore will go to the same line as most other foreigners will.
On those few occasions where there was another airplane or two that arrived before me, my luggage was already at the baggage carousel when I finally made it there. On the other hand, when I have gotten through immigration quickly, typically I have only had to wait five or ten minutes before my luggage arrived. Then again, I always fly business class so my luggage is usually among the first on the luggage carousel. No need to wait long for it.
But thanks for pointing out that anyone who runs to immigration so as to avoid the possibility of waiting on a long immigration line is making an idiot of themselves. Very constructive comment that has little merit if one is on a tight schedule. And if you want to talk about making an idiot of yourself (as you apparently do), claiming that people elbow you to get to immigration quickly certainly fits the bill; it might come as a surprise to you but walking fast or even running to immigration does not constitute "elbowing." There is plenty of room at the Jakarta airport to walk fast or run without colliding with others.Saphire are the automatic immigration gates from the department of immigration, I do not hire any facilitators who use corruption as means to get you through fast.
Perhaps you're always lucky; I flew in on SQ business literally last week, landed ahead of schedule at 22:20, was through immigration by 22:35 (short taxi) and waited for my 1 checked luggage with priority tags till 23:20 (same waiting time as when I flew in on Garuda business with platinum status 3 weeks or so earlier), out through customs a few minutes later. I did literally get elbowed on the travelator by a running idiot despite walking on it with a normal speed, not the first time that that happened either.
My point is, in all of my travels in and out of Jakarta I have never seen the lines long enough to warrant any running from the plane. Even when I arrived last week when 6 flights (EK, EY, CX, MH, SQ and OZ) all landed within about 30 minutes from each other the lines were very reasonable and fast enough. We were the last flight to land and the running idiot who elbowed me from my flight joined me at the carousel about 10 minutes after I arrived there. To me saving 10 minutes is definitely not worth making a mad dash to immigration. Perhaps it is to you, each to his own.
If those 10 minutes, or be it 30 minutes, are going to make or break your business deal of a lifetime perhaps it was a better idea to simply take an earlier flight from the get-go. If it simply means you can start whoring 10 minutes earlier I seriously question your life choices. What would happen to your oh so tight schedule if your flight got delayed I wonder.
Saphire are the automatic immigration gates from the department of immigration, I do not hire any facilitators who use corruption as means to get you through fast.
Perhaps you're always lucky; I flew in on SQ business literally last week, landed ahead of schedule at 22:20, was through immigration by 22:35 (short taxi) and waited for my 1 checked luggage with priority tags till 23:20 (same waiting time as when I flew in on Garuda business with platinum status 3 weeks or so earlier), out through customs a few minutes later. I did literally get elbowed on the travelator by a running idiot despite walking on it with a normal speed, not the first time that that happened either.
My point is, in all of my travels in and out of Jakarta I have never seen the lines long enough to warrant any running from the plane. Even when I arrived last week when 6 flights (EK, EY, CX, MH, SQ and OZ) all landed within about 30 minutes from each other the lines were very reasonable and fast enough. We were the last flight to land and the running idiot who elbowed me from my flight joined me at the carousel about 10 minutes after I arrived there. To me saving 10 minutes is definitely not worth making a mad dash to immigration. Perhaps it is to you, each to his own.
If those 10 minutes, or be it 30 minutes, are going to make or break your business deal of a lifetime perhaps it was a better idea to simply take an earlier flight from the get-go. If it simply means you can start whoring 10 minutes earlier I seriously question your life choices. What would happen to your oh so tight schedule if your flight got delayed I wonder.First off a foreigner who is not resident does not normally have access to any automatic immigration gates in Jakarta. Perhaps there are exceptions but I am unaware of any. So, it seems your citing of Sapphire is wholly irrelevant to this discussion which started with an inquiry from a foreigner who has never been in Jakarta before.
Second, although not the norm, there have been occasions where I have had to wait in an immigration line in Jakarta that took more than 30 minutes. The last time I entered Jakarta it took about ten minutes, but would have taken much longer if I had dawdled with the rest of the folks on the airplane while walking to the foreigner non-resident immigration lines.
If you are suggesting it typically takes you about an hour before you get your luggage in Jakarta, particularly with priority tags, you must be the world's biggest loser as that is not the norm at all; one or two contrary examples does not change that waiting that long is very unusual. Then again you state during your last such instance your flight was the last of six to land within a period of 30 minutes; not difficult to connect the dots, at least not for most.
As to your gratuitous comments about 30 minutes in line breaking a "business deal of a lifetime" or "whoring" and your serious questioning of my life choices, my life choices include not waiting for potentially an additional 30 minutes in line if walking fast for three or four minutes (or running, frankly more like a slow jog) can change that to five or ten minutes or less. And don't forget the advice I was giving was to someone who is going to be in Jakarta for only one night, and who is concerned about whether he will reach his hotel in time to do some mongering that night.
Why does there always seem to be such nastiness and pettiness in the Jakarta forum? I was only trying to be helpful to someone who is spending a single night in Jakarta and is concerned whether he will have enough time for any entertainment (and the OP previously pm'ed me to thank me for that). But then I get posts like #10475 and #10477, in which terms like "idiot" and "fools" are bandied about along with comments questioning my life choices solely because I like to get to the immigration line as quickly as possible to avoid waiting long in line? Seriously? It really is shameful.
First off a foreigner who is not resident does not normally have access to any automatic immigration gates in Jakarta. Perhaps there are exceptions but I am unaware of any. So, it seems your citing of Sapphire is wholly irrelevant to this discussion which started with an inquiry from a foreigner who has never been in Jakarta before.
Second, although not the norm, there have been occasions where I have had to wait in an immigration line in Jakarta that took more than 30 minutes. The last time I entered Jakarta it took about ten minutes, but would have taken much longer if I had dawdled with the rest of the folks on the airplane while walking to the foreigner non-resident immigration lines.
If you are suggesting it typically takes you about an hour before you get your luggage in Jakarta, particularly with priority tags, you must be the world's biggest loser as that is not the norm at all; one or two contrary examples does not change that waiting that long is very unusual. Then again you state during your last such instance your flight was the last of six to land within a period of 30 minutes; not difficult to connect the dots, at least not for most.
As to your gratuitous comments about 30 minutes in line breaking a "business deal of a lifetime" or "whoring" and your serious questioning of my life choices, my life choices include not waiting for potentially an additional 30 minutes in line if walking fast for three or four minutes (or running, frankly more like a slow jog) can change that to five or ten minutes or less. And don't forget the advice I was giving was to someone who is going to be in Jakarta for only one night, and who is concerned about whether he will reach his hotel in time to do some mongering that night.
Why does there always seem to be such nastiness and pettiness in the Jakarta forum? I was only trying to be helpful to someone who is spending a single night in Jakarta and is concerned whether he will have enough time for any entertainment (and the OP previously pm'ed me to thank me for that). But then I get posts like #10475 and #10477, in which terms like "idiot" and "fools" are bandied about along with comments questioning my life choices solely because I like to get to the immigration line as quickly as possible to avoid waiting long in line? Seriously? It really is shameful.1. I was giving general information, which might be useful for other reasons. I was not aware that we had to keep it to 1 discussion at all times, my apologies mister.
2. I fail to see how waiting for something that is not within my control makes me a loser, especially as an entire plane worth of passengers is waiting there right with me. I simply stated a facts about previous experiences, something which could be relevant to the guy who's coming to Jakarta for 1 night. The point still is that no matter how far you run, if there are multiple flights landing at the same time your luggage could be delayed, it could take you another hour to get through customs, they could select you for secondary screening and many many other options which prevent you from being on your way.
3. It took me 1 hour and a few minutes from doors open till in my car, I hardly see how that constitutes calling me "the worlds biggest loser".
The reason why you seem to be experiencing "nastiness and pettiness" over here seems to be something of your own doing. I simply stated my opinion and you choose to personally attack me on that. No wonder you get to experience nastiness.
To the guy who is only staying in Jakarta for one night, the one who originally asked and all others reading this in the future; do whatever you like and feel comfortable with. It really doesn't matter that much what time you get on your way; this is Jakarta and hookers will be available any time of the night.
1. I was giving general information, which might be useful for other reasons. I was not aware that we had to keep it to 1 discussion at all times, my apologies mister.
2. I fail to see how waiting for something that is not within my control makes me a loser, especially as an entire plane worth of passengers is waiting there right with me. I simply stated a facts about previous experiences, something which could be relevant to the guy who's coming to Jakarta for 1 night. The point still is that no matter how far you run, if there are multiple flights landing at the same time your luggage could be delayed, it could take you another hour to get through customs, they could select you for secondary screening and many many other options which prevent you from being on your way.
3. It took me 1 hour and a few minutes from doors open till in my car, I hardly see how that constitutes calling me "the worlds biggest loser".
The reason why you seem to be experiencing "nastiness and pettiness" over here seems to be something of your own doing. I simply stated my opinion and you choose to personally attack me on that. No wonder you get to experience nastiness.
To the guy who is only staying in Jakarta for one night, the one who originally asked and all others reading this in the future; do whatever you like and feel comfortable with. It really doesn't matter that much what time you get on your way; this is Jakarta and hookers will be available any time of the night.Sir, you are the one who first started hurling epithets like "idiot" here, so your sanctimonious nonsense is just that.
Also, don't grossly mischaracterize what I said. What I stated was, "If you are suggesting it typically takes you about an hour before you get your luggage in Jakarta, particularly with priority tags, you must be the world's biggest loser as that is not the norm at all." I did not in any way state that based on this happening to you once or twice that made you the world's biggest loser. But I was casting doubt on whether one-hour waits for luggage at the Jakarta airport are the norm. Sorry the obvious wasn't obvious to you.
Sir, you are the one who first started hurling epithets like "idiot" here, so your sanctimonious nonsense is just that.
Also, don't grossly mischaracterize what I said. What I stated was, "If you are suggesting it typically takes you about an hour before you get your luggage in Jakarta, particularly with priority tags, you must be the world's biggest loser as that is not the norm at all." I did not in any way state that based on this happening to you once or twice that made you the world's biggest loser. But I was casting doubt on whether one-hour waits for luggage at the Jakarta airport are the norm. Sorry the obvious wasn't obvious to you.Let's agree to disagree and leave it at this.
Let me know if you're ever in Jakarta, I'd happily buy you a beer.
FreebieFan
11-20-15, 03:14
one might not have to run to immigration. However, as one who doesn't hire a facilitator on the grounds it is unnecessary and wasteful spending, I can say on some occasions I have run to immigration, and was really glad I did as within a couple of minutes there were around 200 people in line behind me. n
But thanks for pointing out that anyone who runs to immigration so as to avoid the possibility of waiting on a long immigration line is making an idiot of themselves. but walking fast or even running to immigration." There is plenty of room at the Jakarta airport to walk fast or run without colliding with others.Regular travellers know which airports require walking normally and walking "briskly".
Jakarta definitely briskly.
Manila same.
Bangkok same.
HK. If you have HK ID or ASEAN or Frequent visitor card no need. But if no such cards, walk as briskly as you can.
Tokyo. Take your time.
Singapore. Walk as leisurely as you like.
Heathrow. Briskly will help.
LAX. Lines whether you walk fast or not.
Beijing Capital. Brisk is usually better.
Shanghai. Brisk.
Thankfully, many passengers totally dawdle which helps those of us who do walk faster than others.
And all this is good when travelling alone. When travelling with a GF, no matter from what race, background, socio economic group, they always seem to dawdle and so we get stuck at the back of the lines at all the above mentioned airports.
In 20 plus years of ISG this is first time I've seen a pissing contest on whether to walk faster or slower in airports. The ability of two people here to start a fight about any subject under the sun never ceases to amaze.
Let's agree to disagree and leave it at this.
Let me know if you're ever in Jakarta, I'd happily buy you a beer.Okay, thanks. I guess all is well that ends well.
One of the great pleasures of this board in previous years was the great wealth of information that was freely traded back and forth in an easygoing, frequently very humourous manner.
It appears to me that an awful air of bitchiness and backbiting has entered the forum over the past couple of months.
What's wrong lads? Is the beer too cold? Are the shopping malls and hotels too luxurious? Are the girls too pretty? Are there too many of them? Do you miss the cold, damp, miserable weather back home? Are you fed up about the fact that for the price of a mediocre dinner in a non-descript restaurant in the UK or US you can have an amazing night of fun and sex with a beautiful woman half your age?
I only ask because for the life of me I can't understand why so many of you seem to have quite a hair up your asses about something.
What the feck have we just seen in this page? A snarky argument between two blokes about whether you should run or walk at a brisk pace from your airplane to immigration?
Seriously? If we have reached that stage of discussion perhaps we might ask the administrator to shut this once fine site down because I frankly no longer see the point of it.
LuigiScore
11-20-15, 07:48
With all due respect a few points on the FR:
1. The term is JUTA (Million is Bahasa). Not kuta. Kuta is a place is Bali.
2. The prices you mention - 1 mn for a hot stunner giving you a a good time. Not going to happen. I really do not know what you consider as a stunner, but a little RTFF Will tell you a few things about places & pricing.
3. A deal before a drink? IMHO a drink is a conversation starter, a social lubricant. So the price of a drink is really a conversation tax. There is no escaping it if you intend to pick girls at a club, any club.
4. The opening lines comparing Thailand & Indonesia. Mate, I did not get it at all. What are you trying to say? "GF Exp, kissing, BBBJ, tight pussy and possible day game" IS part of the mongering.
5. It is a good thing you did not go to Mulia, yet. You might get a stroke hearing the prices. A drink alone can cost you 200 K IDR.
Finally, one question for you. Did you get laid yet in Jakarta?Yes, I got laid! I paid for it and got it for free. Comparing Thailand to Indonesia: You are more likely to hook up with a non-pro in.
Indonesia than in Thailand. However mongering in Jakarta can be time consuming because of traffic, where as Phil / Thai are more concentrated in areas which are easier to get around (my opinion) I could be wrong because I did not spend that much time in North Jakarta because I like the freelance bar seen.
I talked to many girls without buying them a drink, its just good conversation. I understand its a social lubricant, but if I'm not sure about their attitude / personality I will just try to negotiate first then buy them a drink, Kind of like they earned it. Sometimes I will really like a girl just by her demeanor and do not mind buying her a drink first, but those girls alot times won't ask, but I will.
Offer. It's all relative and I don't approach the girls all the same way. I just don't think as soon as you go up to a girl that your not to sure of, and the first thing she wants is a drink to lock you in (kind of not sociable but taking advantage) I just presented a different way of approaching a situation that worked for me. F. why. I I took two pro's home for free on the same night and I did not buy them a drink. Maybe because they were drunk already Ha Ha. If you are really rich then don't follow my approach.
Whats a Stunner? Everybody taste is different, but I paid 1 juta for a stunner and had a good ST (Bats) and paid between 500-700 plus taxi in Top Gun for slender young and sometimes very near stunner. Keep in mind I rather go home with a good looking lady with a nice attitude, than a ***** stunner that will not give you a good time. If you don't mind me asking, what do you usually pay? How much are the girls at Mulia for ST / LT.
Cheers Lad!
Hung Man 1808
11-20-15, 11:16
I concur with Hilo. Wow there are some argumentative people on here. I'd thought there would be better things to do in Jakarta than bicker online. Maybe you are doing it in traffic in yet another jam to fill in time and take out your anguish. Myself, I just get a feeling like a kid heading off to the candy shop, but each to their own.
For sure, some things have deteriorated in recent years, with the exception of price which has massively escalated! Funnily enough, only in areas that use English as the main language. Perhaps it is because of the argumentative types dropping by now. Local areas, pricing has seemingly barely moved over a long time. Regardless, I always seem to find a happy medium between price, service, inflation and Forex effects when there. It's just not like shooting fish in a barrel anymore. They've just upped the difficulty to a small pond.
It is easy on here to pick the residents. Strangely they seem to be the ones being argued at. And never around posting on a Friday or Saturday night Jakarta time. Why, it's like you guys have something better to do. What on earth could it be?
BTW my experience in waiting for bags in Jakarta is skewed heavily towards Hihister's in recent years. If you see them on the carousel within half an hour of touchdown, you're doing extremely well.
One of the great pleasures of this board in previous years was the great wealth of information that was freely traded back and forth in an easygoing, frequently very humourous manner.The long time members such as yourself are a great asset to the board and why it's been so excellent for so many years. I'm not sure Rev ever made it to this site, but his site was great fun for a while and I think more conducive to humorous banter. Do you know whatever happened to him?
It is easy on here to pick the residents. Strangely they seem to be the ones being argued at. And never around posting on a Friday or Saturday night Jakarta time. Why, it's like you guys have something better to do. What on earth could it be?To the extent you are referring to the recent exchange between me and Hihister, who apparently is a resident, I take offense at your comment. My initial post #10473 was not argumentative at all, it was meant to be helpful and indeed I got a private mail thanking me for it. If someone wanted to respectfully disagree with what I stated in that post, that would have been fine and could have generated a reasonable discussion. Or people could have just taken my post as one's opinion. But that is not how things proceeded although given Hihisster and I made peace in the end, I am not so comfortable with this thing continuing and question why you felt compelled to raise the issue in the manner you did.
As to Hilo77's comment about how things have gotten rather bad in the Jakarta forum I could not agree more although with one caveat. It seems to me Hilo77 is idealizing things from the past a bit. The recent flame war that had to be removed by Jackson was a virtual repeat of one that occurred in early to mid-October 2014 involving most of the same people and content (although I was a bystander then). And from what I can glean that one was a repeat of earlier exchanges of ridiculous flames by many of the same people.
Perhaps Hilo77 is correct that if this sort of thing doesn't stop, the Jakarta board should just be shut down. It's not worth contributing in this environment.
Member #4698
11-20-15, 13:39
Whats a Stunner? Everybody taste is different, but I paid 1 juta for a stunner and had a good ST (Bats) and paid between 500-700 plus taxi in Top Gun for slender young and sometimes very near stunner. Keep in mind I rather go home with a good looking lady with a nice attitude, than a ***** stunner that will not give you a good time. If you don't mind me asking, what do you usually pay? How much are the girls at Mulia for ST / LT.
This is a straw man argument. No one wants to go home with a good looking girl with a bad attitude. My goal is to find really good looking girls (stunners) with good attitudes that want to show me a good time. To that end I have found many smoking hot young girls at Malioboro and CJ's, my two favorite places in Jakarta, that provide great service and give me what I want. Of course I would also prefer not to spend more than I have to in order to achieve my stated goals. LOL. The FL's at CJ's were asking 2,000,000 for LT when I was last there in March. Not cheap by any means, but there is a large selection of very good looking girls to choose from especially on Wednesday (ladies night) through Saturday night. Check it out.
Blanquiceleste
11-20-15, 17:21
Yes, I got laid!
If you don't mind me asking, what do you usually pay? How much are the girls at Mulia for ST / LT.
Cheers Lad!Good on you mate. IMHO the prices around the popular clubs are in the range of 2 million IDR. Classic is the only place I know where prices are still in the 1 million (or less) range. I have never paid less than 2 million at CJ.
Cheers to you too, have fun!
price which has massively escalated! Funnily enough, only in areas that use English as the main language. Perhaps it is because of the argumentative types dropping by nowThe only "English" places I am aware of where price has escalated in the last year are King's Cross and CJ's.
If you've been to King's Cross, you'll note the clientele is mostly local. The price hike may be due to other factors (they are owned by Malioboro group).
The prices at CJ's are set by the ladies themselves, and thus generally obey the market laws of supply and demand. A couple years ago you could be assured a companion from CJ's for no more than 1 Million overnight. Now that figure has raised to 2 Million because of the "demand" (I. E. Pooner overpayment). We have only ourselves to blame for inflating this amount as it seems many guys are happy to pay 2 Million. In my 3 times at CJ's, I've never paid over 1 Million, and have only seen perhaps 2-3 ladies I consider worthy of the 2 Million standard asking price.
LuigiScore
11-21-15, 01:42
This is a straw man argument. No one wants to go home with a good looking girl with a bad attitude. My goal is to find really good looking girls (stunners) with good attitudes that want to show me a good time. To that end I have found many smoking hot young girls at Malioboro and CJ's, my two favorite places in Jakarta, that provide great service and give me what I want. Of course I would also prefer not to spend more than I have to in order to achieve my stated goals. LOL. The FL's at CJ's were asking 2,000,000 for LT when I was last there in March. Not cheap by any means, but there is a large selection of very good looking girls to choose from especially on Wednesday (ladies night) through Saturday night. Check it out.Not cheap, but compared to an all nighter in USA, not bad. At least it's not ST like a couple girls wanted at bats. All that matters that you had a good time.
I will check it out Thanks!
Good on you mate. IMHO the prices around the popular clubs are in the range of 2 million IDR. Classic is the only place I know where prices are still in the 1 million (or less) range. I have never paid less than 2 million at CJ.
Cheers to you too, have fun!Cheap sex can be found in brothels pretty much all over Jakarta. There are hundreds of places with prices similar to Classic that are brothels. Classic just happens to be the biggest and nicest place like that where they actually have a very cheap price and very nice clean rooms. I think Classic is still only 350 k, so it's far less than 1 million. Hotel Travel is another huge place with over 100 girls at 350 k per hour, but the rooms are not as nice as the ones at Classic. There are so many other smaller places around town that offer the exact same sex in a less nice room for the same price (or even less).
The price difference comes into play when you are dealing with "free lancers". Especially free lancers who speak some English. You can get free lancers from the streets just driving around at night if you want. I think they are 500 k, but I've never taken one. You can still get a free lancer from Blok M for 500 k, but the standard price is 700 k there. 1 million in Blok M is a stretch, but I've paid it for a girl that really stood out and there wasn't any girl even close to that one that night. The standard price at CJs and BATS (all free lancers) is 1. 5 million. You can get them for 1 million if they aren't a high demand girl or at closing time. I've never paid any girl from those places 2 million rupiah, but I have stood near guys and overheard their negotiations where they agree to 2 or even 3 million, so I know it is happening. I did see a girl in CJs recently who stood out like a sore thumb. In all my years of going to those bars, she is the best I have ever seen. She was as close to a 10 as anything I have ever seen in Jakarta, but I only saw her that one night. She was already accompanied for the night, so I am not sure how much the guy was paying her, but I would have gladly given that one particular stunner 2 million. The average CJs or BATS girl over 30 years old is not worth more than 1 million. There are normally from 3 to 7 young hotties that will be there any given night I would consider worth 1. 5. And that one chick was worth 2 million. Haha. (I would not be surprised if that guy was paying her more than that.).
That being said, if I negotiate 1 million and the girl absolutely rocks my world, I will be inclined to give her more as a tip. I gave a girl a 1. 5 million rupiah tip once because she was the most awesome thing in bed I'd ever taken home. She was very good looking and up for anything including dressing up in sexy outfits, photos, videos, anal, whatever, and she could give a blowjob and rim job that was amazing. We shagged the entire night. I still look back on that night fondly. I just hate being locked into giving them more than that due to initial negotiations then they are a star fish in bed. Unfortunately that girl was taken off the market very quickly and married some Korean guy.
By the way, I went to King's Cross last night. They seem to have dropped their prices again. (either that, or they were just lying to me the last time) The last time I was there, they told me all girls were 1 million rupiah. This time, they told me all the girls are 600 k. I paid 600 k for the same girl I wanted last time who wanted a million so I had refused. Stunning 19 year old with huge tits. Well worth 600 k for an hour with her. Rooms are nice there as well. There was one sexy dancer there with such a fantastically nice pussy. I could have stared at that all week.
. I'm not sure Rev ever made it to this site, but his site was great fun for a while and I think more conducive to humorous banter. Do you know whatever happened to him?He always tried to ensure his blog was not viewed as simply a sex information site and as such regular posters like you, me and Menteng sometimes had to adopt a more convivial, less of a "How much? How long" approach, which often led to the more easygoing, witty attitude that was displayed here, when knowledgeable posters like Bulai69 (now we're showing our age) also gave very considerate and helpful advice.
The last I heard of him he had come into a bit of money and had retired into a life of comfort and respectability and left behind his slightly indiscreet and disreputable past.
Anyway now that there doesn't seem to be anything other than endless backbiting going on here, it's time for the experienced posters to walk away and leave the place to the sex tourists to argue over.
By the way, I went to King's Cross last night. They seem to have dropped their prices again. (either that, or they were just lying to me the last time) The last time I was there, they told me all girls were 1 million rupiah. This time, they told me all the girls are 600 k. I paid 600 k for the same girl I wanted last time who wanted a million so I had refused. Stunning 19 year old with huge tits. Well worth 600 k for an hour with her. Rooms are nice there as well. There was one sexy dancer there with such a fantastically nice pussy. I could have stared at that all week.I have stayed at the Grand Whiz in Kelapa Gading a few times, and just looked up Kings Cross on a map, seems walking distance. I've always brought in girls from dating sites when I stay up there (the girls always seem to live in Bekasi for some reason) but next time I think I will wander down the street and pay a visit to Kings Cross.
Member #4410
11-23-15, 14:47
You are receiving PM's faster than you can delete them.
Your inbox was full again, so now via the forum. I' m in Jakarta now. If you're here in the next two weeks, I'd like to meet for a drink.
Ko.
Member #4410
11-23-15, 14:54
Tried out some new talent at Maribaya and D. Also re-aquainted Mellisa. Pictures tomorrow. Going out now.
Ko.
The internet giveth, and the internet taketh away.
Had an 18 year old virgin lined up to come over and be deflowered. She claimed to be a virgin, she lives a long way from Jakarta but was in town, my BS detector usually sniffs them out and I think she is the real deal. However, like her sisters, absolutely hopeless at keeping schedules. I had a several hour window of opportunity, and she suddenly went silent on the instant messenger we were using. A couple of hours went by, I called in plan be, and of course then she popped up late ready to meet. Sorry darling, too late, my dick is already tickling some tonsils. For those of you into rating scales, from the pics and cam we have done, I would only rate it about a 6/10, but I was / am willing to take one for the team in order to deflower her, so let's see what the next few days can deliver. She does not want any money, seems to come from a wealthy family.
Then heading back to the hotel today, get a hit on Badoo. Being able to see how far away you are from the girl is gold given the Jakarta traffic. This one is in it for the money. Claims to be 19, about to turn 20. Just got a message that she is in the lobby of my hotel, got to run fellas.
Member #4410
11-24-15, 12:41
Slightly irritating. I'm in the Century Park hotel in Jakarta which has cabled internet with good speed in the rooms. Unfortunately this faithfully blocks sites like ISG and Hookers.nl. However, there is also wifi in the entire hotel which does not block anything. Indonesian logic or the hotel being client friendly?
I am thus able to report. See Picture thread and Jakarta thread. Happy reading.
Regards,
Ko.
So the 'hit in Badoo' I mentioned yesterday turned out to be an interesting story. Went down to the lobby to pick her up and surprise, surprise it is a different girl to the pictures. I did not want to cause a scene in the lobby so I brought her up to my room and was going to tell her she could go home empty handed for running a bait and switch on me. However once in the room, her body language and demeanor screamed newbie or non-professional.
So I started asking her a few questions, and it became clear that she was not the person I was messaging, she was quite honest with her answers, but she was unaware of the conversation I had had with "her boss". She claimed that she worked in marketing for a big name bank, but I don't believe that at all. Based on how shy she was I decided to take the plunge and go ahead with the booking. Well she turned out to be a tiger in the sack and seemed to really get into it. I've come across lots of fake moaning and pretending to be into it, and she was the opposite of that.
We had a really good shag and then she gave me a great massage. Was two hours well spent given the bait and switch at the beginning, and I might even repeat her. Got her number to cut out the middle man who she told me earns 30%. Made me wonder if it was actually one of those vitality massage services Smoothy was talking about.
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