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DCAsianLover
05-14-16, 20:40
First off great stuff and write ups in this forum fellas. First time heading to Indonesia for work may be during Ramadan in June. I have RTFF and some other sites on the subject but their seems to be conflicting info. Some day everything is shut down but others say the fun is still available. Anybody have some insights on this year or Ramadan 2015?

Thanks

ABCinLA
05-14-16, 23:00
[QUOTE=Roy2920;1878074]Stayed in H Santika Slipi in recent trip. Initially asked the Bluebird to take me to Classic, but changed my mind after thinking I haven't really tasted Malioboro. The fare was Rp30 k and arrived around 8 pm. Door cover charge is Rp110.4 k.

Went for their massage first. A chubby local lady with strong hand pressure and not pushing for HJ etc. Not that I want any though as I want to save my shot to the FL there. Face: 5/10, Body: 4/10 (not a fan of chubby), Skin: Brown, Massage: 6/10 (I do prefer Chinese style pressure massage), Damage: Rp300 k.

Then went to their strip club. Ordered Seafood Noodle (Rp74.4 k) with Coke (Rp36 k). Nothing is tastier than slurping noodle in front of topless ladies . The strip club ladies are mostly foreigners (PRC, Viet, Uzbeks, Mongol) with minimum rate of Rp1 mil. Quite a number are 8 9/10 but have decided to try locals. Went to the opposite Bar M. The bar plays live band and have only locals. Took Sisi, a petite Bekasi girl. Face: 7/10 (GND looks), Body: 8/10 (Firm and curvy, I usually prefer tall, slim and leggy but most slim one are non looker), Boob: 7/10 (B and firm), Ass: 8/10 (this is her best asset), GFE: 6/10 I (a bit shy and does not allow FK or fingering), Damage: Rp400 k + Tips Rp200 k.[/QUOTE

Its hard to believe you only paid 400k for Malioboro, unless you're talking about another place. No one has been offered to me for less than 900k.

LA Guy 5
05-15-16, 05:18
Its hard to believe you only paid 400k for Malioboro, unless you're talking about another place. No one has been offered to me for less than 900k.Unless "recent" in Roy2920's report means within the last couple of years or so. It used to be Malioboro offered girls for under 400 K in the bar referenced in his report, I. E. , the one across from the main lounge. I heard the girls were basically from the Classic, Travel circuit and were priced accordingly. Some were actually quite pretty, and therefore made it difficult to justify paying the higher prices for the girls in the lounge, which I suspect is why Malioboro stopped this.

Then again, I suppose there is a possibility Malioboro reversed its earlier decision and has reintroduced the "budget-priced" girls in the second bar. That would be great, and if it is true great to know.

LA Guy 5
05-15-16, 05:29
New royal bar. In a murcky backwater north of jl. Pangjay in a strip reminiscient of the 90's blora bars. Tepid large bottles of bali hai beer with ice and the challenge of a straw from barmen that for once could cope in a very very busy bar. Genuinely laid back locals of all ages.

My night's highlight was a perplexing indohouse remix of How Deep is your Love which would have left calvin harris smiling in his filled up boots.

Decent squads of girls for hire in back corners low key but convenient. Active seat-hopping girls with freelance manners who pulled the most tricks making good effort over us lazy mongers. For those traditionalists there's also a fishbowl with the usual smorgasbord of girls crammed together in a nonchalant mood.

10 pm Gogos start but because of the low suspended ceiling the girls over 5 ft had to bend down while jiggling their stuff. It's the first gogos I've seen in their real birthday suits. Shoeless. Rather like the upper floor bars in soi cowboy. Didn't see anyone taking up the ladies drink farce though being foreign looking I was picked upon constantly. Great banter in the unisex toilets with the girls cleaning themselves up.

The damage. Rp 330 000 for a room and chosen tryst. Didn't partake, as on a post Alexis afternoon session but promised shower and towels. Old school Mamasan commented that anything was on the cards in the room, and I think if you did your due diligence with the right girl it would be. Ladies drink standard Jakarta 50000 rp. Large bottle of Hai or Guiness 60000 straw not optional. No drugs offered thankfully.

Jakarta's Royal bar rocks. Finally gentlemen after 6 years of trips to Jakarta somewhere to write home about. Neighbouring bars looked just as good following a quick head poke on the way out.

Tambora DJ.The Pangeran Jayakarta bars (at the Komplek Kota Indah) are often overlooked, partly because they are not so easy to find. http://www.streetdirectory.com/indonesia/en/jakarta/travel/travel_id_10327/travel_site_4522/travel_no_no.45/. But they give good value for the money, and the girls tend to be more accommodating than at places like Classic and Travel. The environment may seem a bit downscale, but so long as one visits knowing this they should enjoy themselves. It should be mentioned there is not much English spoken at these places either, although a few mama-sans, not many, can be found who speak it a bit, as well as the occasional girl.

As for the beer, I always ask for cold beer, and that is what I am served (from the refrigerator). But I don't believe I have ordered beer at Royal; just at LA Bar, Sari Ayu, and Astro, the latter located in the street / alley that runs parallel to the street on which Royal, LA Bar, and Sari Ayu are located.

Roy2920
05-15-16, 15:55
It was just last week LA Guy 5. Thinking back, I think yah you are right the girls at the bar looks like those you could find in Classic. Future trip might be better to just roam in Classic.


Unless "recent" in Roy2920's report means within the last couple of years or so. It used to be Malioboro offered girls for under 400 K in the bar referenced in his report, I. E. , the one across from the main lounge. I heard the girls were basically from the Classic, Travel circuit and were priced accordingly. Some were actually quite pretty, and therefore made it difficult to justify paying the higher prices for the girls in the lounge, which I suspect is why Malioboro stopped this.

Then again, I suppose there is a possibility Malioboro reversed its earlier decision and has reintroduced the "budget-priced" girls in the second bar. That would be great, and if it is true great to know.

Smoothy
05-16-16, 04:23
It was just last week LA Guy 5. Thinking back, I think yah you are right the girls at the bar looks like those you could find in Classic. Future trip might be better to just roam in Classic.If Malioboro has girls for 400 k, that is the best deal in town. That's only about 50 k more than Classic and Classic is nowhere near as nice as Malioboro. I don't care if it's the same girls, give me Malioboro every time if the price is that similar.

Member #4794
05-16-16, 21:25
I saw some news about them going through and demolishing some of kalijodo it is this really gone or are they just playing this up for the news?

Anyone on the scene that can shed some light on this? TIA.

LA Guy 5
05-17-16, 01:54
I saw some news about them going through and demolishing some of kalijodo it is this really gone or are they just playing this up for the news?

Anyone on the scene that can shed some light on this? TIA.It is gone.

LA Guy 5
05-17-16, 02:01
It is gone.Following up on my earlier post, this news article confirms Kalijodos' days as a red-light district are over: http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/03/19/greater-jakarta-kalijodo-park-have-food-stalls.html-0.

Member #4794
05-17-16, 02:44
It is gone.Thanks for the update, they are actually following through with this initiative. I heard they stopped some nude dancing also at the clubs like Malioboro and V2, I don't know if that's true I have a trip coming up in a month or 2 and I must have awful timing.

Sean EZ
05-19-16, 06:30
Are any of these places Malioboro Alexis Classic Royal Bar etc allow takeout to my hotel? Or must go to clubs for freelancers for that? Is Millies still best for free-lancers?

LA Guy 5
05-19-16, 09:21
Are any of these places Malioboro Alexis Classic Royal Bar etc allow takeout to my hotel? Or must go to clubs for freelancers for that? Is Millies still best for free-lancers?A few years ago I did take a girl from LA Bar to my hotel; at that time I had to pay them around 800 or 900 K and left with her around 1 am; I probably paid more than necessary (to the bar) but that was the deal then. Usually, I don't see girls leaving with men but I do remember a couple of years ago seeing three or four girls leave together with an equal number of men from the same bar (I noticed because one of the girls is one I had hoped to session with); I guess they were having some sort of party at a hotel.

So, it is not the norm, but probably still possible. I would think it would be prohibitively expensive though at a place like Malioboro or Alexis, but then again that depends on how much money one has to spend on this.

LA Guy 5
05-19-16, 09:24
Thanks for the update, they are actually following through with this initiative. I heard they stopped some nude dancing also at the clubs like Malioboro and V2, I don't know if that's true I have a trip coming up in a month or 2 and I must have awful timing.What would be awful timing is showing up during Ramadan. It begins the evening of June 5 (I believe) and continues for somewhere around a month.

As to nude dancing, I have read reports, probably on this forum but maybe elsewhere, that it is back. I may find out on my next trip, although I tend not to stick around at these places very late, which is when I understand most of the nude dancing occurs.

Smoothy
05-19-16, 10:00
800 or 900 k a "few" years ago? I think that was more than a few. The price now for takeout after 11 pm is 1. 65 million, and if before 11 pm it's around 3 million. Even more at Malioboro or Alexis.

Sean EZ
05-19-16, 20:39
Does anyone have reliable pricing info on Malio? I am talking about the dancer girls and the ones that come up to you all the time in pairs? A number of them came up and some of them are just incredible models in looks. I started negotiating with one she said 1. 5 M then the waiters said 1. 8 M and on top of that you have to buy 20 65000 (3 pound) sweet water shots. Then he wrote down another 1 M on paper so total over 3 M (over 150 pounds for a pop). I just don't like this absurd and unclear pricing structure.

Keep in mind they add 35 percent service charge on top of drinks and food and the room as well. So you may end up paying 200-300 pounds. That's crazy.

I took a sideliner girl for 1. 1 M which I was told was all in, ended up paying 700 K on top of this for a room with a 35 percent "tax". So down 110 GBP total which included my entry and food.

I'd love to try many of these girls but it doesn't sound like the place is setup for repeat customer. It would be great if anyone could explain what is best strategy there at Malio.

Later went to Alexis, and its a much easier environemnt: 1. 4 M for locals and 2. 4 for imports. Both are good quality. Great spa, included in your hour, clear pricing. Girls aren't pushy at all unlike M!

But some of the talent at M is insanely hot. I wish I knew how it works.

Taxis mention club Illegals and Kings Cross as new spots. Passed by Illegas and looked quite big. Any scoop on these?

For takeout Alexis has club on ground floor and that's a good place for a freelancer. Illegals might be also. Will try those tomorrow and possible LA and Hotel Classic terminal.

Any suggested on the above are appreciated.

Sean EZ
05-19-16, 20:51
Here is website for Illegals:

http://www.illigalshotel.com/

Kings Cross:

http://kingcrossjakarta.co.id/

I am looking for clubs like Alexis hotel first floor with freelancers. You know every girl there is a freelancer. Had good success at Millies two years ago but the place is really sketchy. You need to know how to deal with it.

Have been recommended clubs X2 Equinox and Dragonfly, but for regular and mix of gold diggers / freelancer girls.

BTW this site is blocked in Indonesia, I recommend using Hola VPN its free and works great, clearly.

LA Guy 5
05-20-16, 01:51
It was around five years ago, possibly four and a half, that I paid 800 or 900K for an overnight out of LA Bar that started at 1 am. I consider that "a few years ago," maybe you don't. It was when Jenny (if I'm recalling her name right) was one of the mama-sans at LA Bar. This was before she moved to Sari-Ayu but after she left Angrek (I was told she used to work at Angrek but don't know this from personal experience).

Smoothy
05-20-16, 09:34
1. 65 million is the current price for takeout after 11pm. The price years ago doesn't really matter.

Fast Eddie 48
05-21-16, 01:14
Here is website for Illegals:

http://www.illigalshotel.com/

Kings Cross:

http://kingcrossjakarta.co.id/

I am looking for clubs like Alexis hotel first floor with freelancers. You know every girl there is a freelancer. Had good success at Millies two years ago but the place is really sketchy. You need to know how to deal with it.

Have been recommended clubs X2 Equinox and Dragonfly, but for regular and mix of gold diggers / freelancer girls.

BTW this site is blocked in Indonesia, I recommend using Hola VPN its free and works great, clearly.To Sean ez,

You can try the golden crown and Colossuem in Kota both w many freelancer, Millie use to my favorite too have been going down hill since 2010 pick up many freelancer there before when I was staying at the Olympic hotel cross the st and Stadium is closed. Golden crown is my favorite girl there go for 700 k st to one juta all night but many girl is on ecstasy.

Fast Eddie 48.

Offshore Swell
05-21-16, 13:50
The Pangeran Jayakarta bars (at the Komplek Kota Indah) are often overlooked, partly because they are not so easy to find. http://www.streetdirectory.com/indonesia/en/jakarta/travel/travel_id_10327/travel_site_4522/travel_no_no.45/. But they give good value for the money, and the girls tend to be more accommodating than at places like Classic and Travel. The environment may seem a bit downscale, but so long as one visits knowing this they should enjoy themselves. It should be mentioned there is not much English spoken at these places either, although a few mama-sans, not many, can be found who speak it a bit, as well as the occasional girl.

As for the beer, I always ask for cold beer, and that is what I am served (from the refrigerator). But I don't believe I have ordered beer at Royal; just at LA Bar, Sari Ayu, and Astro, the latter located in the street / alley that runs parallel to the street on which Royal, LA Bar, and Sari Ayu are located.A bit of intel that was given to me by a North Jakarta Police Commisar who I know well.

Punters planning on visiting Pangerang Jayakarta should be aware that it may be targeted later in the year for razia.

These are the periodical police raids where they will lock down an area and sift through all they find there. There have been a few issues there with security taking a bit of a heavy handed approach with some who have stepped out of line. The fact that this place is a fair bit more downmarket and has a wide cross section of Indonesians visiting means it is not without it's risks.

Sean EZ
05-21-16, 16:25
To Sean ez,

You can try the golden crown and Colossuem in Kota both w many freelancer, Millie use to my favorite too have been going down hill since 2010 pick up many freelancer there before when I was staying at the Olympic hotel cross the st and Stadium is closed. Golden crown is my favorite girl there go for 700 k st to one juta all night but many girl is on ecstasy.

Fast Eddie 48.Hi Eddie good advice, totally forgot about Golden Crown. Went to Colliseum last night, it has really changed now, mostly tables with little room to stand if you are by yourself. Great club though after renovation was done.

Smoothy
05-22-16, 07:14
A bit of intel that was given to me by a North Jakarta Police Commisar who I know well.

Punters planning on visiting Pangerang Jayakarta should be aware that it may be targeted later in the year for razia.

These are the periodical police raids where they will lock down an area and sift through all they find there. There have been a few issues there with security taking a bit of a heavy handed approach with some who have stepped out of line. The fact that this place is a fair bit more downmarket and has a wide cross section of Indonesians visiting means it is not without it's risks.It also has the rumored reputation these days of having a higher disease rate than the norm. Kind of an island of misfit toys for girls who tested positive. Who knows if that is true or not, but if you decide to go there, wrapping up is likely prudent.

Smoothy
05-22-16, 07:16
Golden crown is my favorite girl there go for 700 k st to one juta all night but many girl is on ecstasy.

Fast Eddie 48.True, that's a fun place. I think almost every girl there is on ecstasy. That's why they go there. The main problem with that place for me is the girls never want to leave until 6 am. I have trouble staying up all night waiting for them.

ChoduMadan
05-23-16, 08:04
Hi Friends, I am planning a 5 day trip to Jakarta and wish to have advice from experienced members here, I am Indian and wish to have a real good time possible a threesome experience in Jakarta, Please tell me where should I stay.

And also which are the best places to visit I prefer a spa place where you can relax and take a girl as and when you like, also I do see lot of ads in CL and be. Page has any one any experience with this females or agencies, I will appreciate if you all can guide me well.

Fast Eddie 48
05-24-16, 21:05
True, that's a fun place. I think almost every girl there is on ecstasy. That's why they go there. The main problem with that place for me is the girls never want to leave until 6 am. I have trouble staying up all night waiting for them.To Smoothy.

Not every girl is on the E the girl at the front are mostly on ecstasy they will ask you to buy it for them I just move on to the next one, I pick up a beautiful girl Jessica last yr around midnight she work for a law firm she told me she cannot stay all night we settle for 700 k 3 HR 2 shots very good GFE she is not on the E.

Fast Eddie 48.

Smoothy
05-24-16, 23:37
she is not on the E.

Fast Eddie 48.How do you know she didn't do E that night? She may have already completed her trip. If she is selling herself, she likely needs the money to buy E for her next visit.

I have never once taken one of those girls standing near the front entrance. They seem too desperate. I have always chatted up girls inside the club on the dance floor. Normally they are office girls or more frequently college students. I have only taken a girl home from there once, and that was after she completed her E tripping. I paid her zero to go home with me, but did give her money at the club to purchase what she wanted. The other girls I met the other times I visited, I got their phone numbers and called them a different day. They were going to stay there too late for me. One time I was very lucky with a college girl who wanted some extra money for school, so she would come over on occasion. The lucky part is that she gave my number to her various college friends for a while. This was before phones had cameras to share photos back and forth, so when they arrived at my door, I had no idea what the girl would look like. Normally it was a pleasant surprise.

Good times.

Blanquiceleste
05-25-16, 00:49
Hi Friends, I am planning a 5 day trip to Jakarta and wish to have advice from experienced members here, I am Indian and wish to have a real good time possible a threesome experience in Jakarta, Please tell me where should I stay.

And also which are the best places to visit I prefer a spa place where you can relax and take a girl as and when you like, also I do see lot of ads in CL and be. Page has any one any experience with this females or agencies, I will appreciate if you all can guide me well.Just 9 posts back on the same page your post appears there is a full report on spas like Malio & Alexis along with prices and some vague description of the girls in there. Read back 3 pages and you will feel prepared to visit Jakarta. If in any further doubt read some of the posts from the Reports of Distinction thread.

For places to stay read the posts on Jakarta Hotels. Most places in Jakarta are girl friendly.

Alex7J
05-25-16, 13:53
Hi Friends, I am planning a 5 day trip to Jakarta and wish to have advice from experienced members here, I am Indian and wish to have a real good time possible a threesome experience in Jakarta, Please tell me where should I stay.

And also which are the best places to visit I prefer a spa place where you can relax and take a girl as and when you like, also I do see lot of ads in CL and be. Page has any one any experience with this females or agencies, I will appreciate if you all can guide me well.The manager class is everywhere, just want links a and contacts and don't want RTFF, there should be a Wicked Roger in every forum this guy knows how to reply to them.

No offence man RTFF 20-40 pages, then rod I hope you will definitely find everything and there is mother google for you. For God's sake grow up.

Kerrstar
05-25-16, 17:30
Here is website for Illegals:

BTW this site is blocked in Indonesia, I recommend using Hola VPN its free and works great, clearly.It's only blocked by some internet providers, not all. I'm currently here without using a VPN but if I travel to other places and stay in hotels then it is hit and miss if it is blocked.

Cosmopolitano
05-26-16, 04:14
Dear all,

Thanks for your contributions.

It seems that you read regularly in the news that the control over the prostitution is tightening overall in Indonesia.

Are there still venues where there are naked dancing girls in Jakarta? Or has that ship sailed?

Thanks.

John Aldrich
05-26-16, 18:08
Hi Friends, I am planning a 5 day trip to Jakarta and wish to have advice from experienced members here, I am Indian and wish to have a real good time possible a threesome experience in Jakarta, Please tell me where should I stay.

And also which are the best places to visit I prefer a spa place where you can relax and take a girl as and when you like, also I do see lot of ads in CL and be. Page has any one any experience with this females or agencies, I will appreciate if you all can guide me well.RTFF. There is a treasure of information available.

Smoothy
05-27-16, 10:25
Dear all,

Thanks for your contributions.

It seems that you read regularly in the news that the control over the prostitution is tightening overall in Indonesia.

Are there still venues where there are naked dancing girls in Jakarta? Or has that ship sailed?

Thanks.

Look at post #10719 in this forum.

Cutty Sark
05-28-16, 17:50
I think there are not too many reports on Alexis Hotel in the forum, which is a pity as I found it to be a very good mongering option. I have earlier visited Malioboro, which is also good but now after going to Alexis I would prefer this any day. Unlike Malioboro and other strip-clubs, Alexis is focused on the spa and sex only.

The hotel is located in a somewhat dark side-street to a major street, close to the Mangga Dua Square. There is a karaoke, restaurant. , etc. But the action is all on one floor (if I remember the 7th floor). The good thing I liked about Alexis as compared with Malioboro is that the staff is helpful and they will explain everything to you, as well as answer any questions. In Malioboro I found the staff to be testy and laconic, and also difficult to communicate with in English.

Once you get a bracelet and a locker, you would change into spa-clothes. The locker and shower areas are quite clean and nice. Then, you have an option to either sit around in a dark-ish area with lots of lounge chairs and beds, or try out the various spa options (whirlpool, sauna, steam, etc). There are several massage options as well. When you want you can go into the restaurant where all the ladies are (and there are a lot- about 40 of different nationalities). There is no pushiness, no pressure. In fact, I was very happy that the managers ask you to specify the criteria you are looking for (e. G. Height, nationality, bust size, etc) and then they would pick out a line up and let you choose. You can opt for a 2nd or 3rd line up as well. I guess this is also possible in Malioboro but you would need to spend much more effort there. The pricing is informed before-hand, Indonesian ladies have a total fee of about USD 100 and the foreign ones are USD 150. Once you select, you have a choice to take the girl directly to the room or have some time in the whirlpool. I decided the latter, and did not regret it as I received a nice intimate massage there. Then it was off to the room, which was very luxurious. The quality of service was very nice from the girl I had selected, with a CBJ with very good technique, light kissing and sex in multiple positions. All in all very satisfactory and I will return very soon.

The girls expect tips, naturally. However I found it strange that the girl I was with expected me to give her a USD 100 tip! I had to politely ask her to get lost despite a generous USD 20 tip. She insisted that USD 100 was a usual tip for "good service", I think that was bull- warning to other members to not fall for this. Alexis certainly is pricey, but I think with the quality of the establishment and the quality of the girls I do not mind.

Smoothy
05-29-16, 07:14
The girls expect tips, naturally. However I found it strange that the girl I was with expected me to give her a USD 100 tip! I had to politely ask her to get lost despite a generous USD 20 tip. She insisted that USD 100 was a usual tip for "good service", I think that was bull- warning to other members to not fall for this. Alexis certainly is pricey, but I think with the quality of the establishment and the quality of the girls I do not mind.You were correct not to give 100 usd tip. That's an absurdly high tip and absolutely not what they normally get. I normally give between 100 k and 300 k tip there depending on service and the girl. Alexis has great girls, maybe the best in town. The problem I have with Alexis is that I spend too much money overall when I go there. My bill after the atrocious 21% tax they charge is normally 4 to 5 million including drinks and girl.

Sean EZ
05-29-16, 15:44
Not every girl is available and there are tons of girls on the other hand, most don't speak English. You get approached every 5 minutes or so. A mama approached me and found me a girl I liked eventually. If you are alone and don't speak the language then I think using mama's help is best way of getting a girl. The place is a giant sleazish club with exact same crazy Asian techno kota music as 2 years ago, and is as fun as Jakarta gets. BTW went to Immigrant 300 K cover and the girls inside are just not worth it. Same hoes as everywhere else except older and dressed better and speak English. Also keep Tinder game in mind. Works pretty good too.

Verdict: Jakarta is still but but drink prices are much higher, and there seem to be a lot more foreigners (european and asian alike).

Smoothy
05-30-16, 00:26
Not every girl is available and there are tons of girls on the other hand, most don't speak English. You get approached every 5 minutes or so. A mama approached me and found me a girl I liked eventually. If you are alone and don't speak the language then I think using mama's help is best way of getting a girl. The place is a giant sleazish club with exact same crazy Asian techno kota music as 2 years ago, and is as fun as Jakarta gets. BTW went to Immigrant 300 K cover and the girls inside are just not worth it. Same hoes as everywhere else except older and dressed better and speak English. Also keep Tinder game in mind. Works pretty good too.

Verdict: Jakarta is still but but drink prices are much higher, and there seem to be a lot more foreigners (european and asian alike).In all of my visits to Golden Crown, I have never once been approached by a mamasan. I didn't even know there were any there. You are correct that it's important to be able to speak Bahasa there. If you can't speak Indonesian, it's not an easy pickup spot. Also, if you are Non-Asian you have less chance than if you are Asian. Still a fun spot and there are some opportunities there.

Oosik
06-01-16, 09:36
I had about forty eight hours in Jakarta heading home from a visit to Borobudur, near Yogyakarta. Borobudur is home to a fantastic religious structure. It is also home to the largest Buddhist temple, but that pales compared to the Giant Chicken Church which features much smaller crowds and a lower admission fee, though admittedly there are a lot fewer bas-reliefs of topless babes.

I had targeted the Malioboro so I stayed at the Grand Mercure Harmoni, which has taken the window-between-the-bedroom-and-the-shower thing to a new level: About three meters by three meters.

Having lost contact with the ISG (blocked by ISP) for some time I couldn't review the recent info on Malioboro so showed up too early, about 5:30, and the dancers were not doing their thing yet. I had looked forward to a bit of that to get me into the proper mind and dick set. My future bed-mate later said that they start at 8:00.

I grabbed a seat and a Coke and tried to discreetly check out the wares, which is difficult when the wares are checking YOU out. Like I said: Early and few customers. I was a prime target. Eventually a mamasan came over to see if I was looking for company or just really, really wanted a Coke. I was offered, if I recall correctly, Indo, Thai, Chinese, and Uzbek. I think there may have been another that escapes me now.

For no solid reason whatsoever I went with Uzbek. I'd never had an Uzbek before, but I've never had a lobotomy, either, so that is a BS reason. Soon I found out that Uzbek women, at least those haunting that establishment, were large women. But there was a token smaller one and my choice was easy. She was quite cute, even later without clothes, not a spectacular body but no fat, decent ass, and tiny pointy titties. We had a couple of Cokes and chatted. Her English was very good and we seemed to have good chemistry. I had fairly early suggested going upstairs but nothing came of it. After a while I began to wonder if I was in the right place, or what the hell I was doing wrong. We talked for at least thirty minutes before she suddenly had an idea: Did I want to go upstairs? I guess she missed my earlier offer.

So the mamasan was summoned and she wrote some stuff on a piece of paper. I had expected it to be the price and it would be shown to me, as I had read this somewhere. But no: She gave it to my new girlfriend and that was the end of it. Malioboro has a good reputation or I would have been pretty nervous about going up price unseen. Spoiler alert: The price turned out to be in keeping with what I had expected.

So we went to the lobby where she got a key and I got 50,000 rupiahs worth of condoms (2) and a free candy "for energy". I had my own condoms but figured I'd go with the flow. Up to the room we went and were escorted in by an enthusiastic room attendant who hung out enthusiastically until tipped.

And then things changed.

It was the most mechanical service I've had since the milking machine on the farm. Separate showers, about thirty seconds of snuggling and dick stroking, then on goes 25,000 rupiahs of condom and on she goes. We're not talking covered BJ here, we're talking NO BJ. And BJ's are my favorite! She rode vigorously with the typical fake moaning, but after a while suggested we switch, so I mounted her mish and pounded on. And on. And on. Between the lack of sensitivity due to the condom (always a problem for me) and the more or less complete detachment of my bed mate (I think she was moaning in her sleep) things weren't working out so after a seriously long attempt we switched back. By now the little fellow was really tired of the condom so after a bit it had to be hand-resuscitated. Eventually a happy finish was reached and then she was quickly back to the shower. I followed and by the time my quick shower was done she was waiting, fully dressed, to head back down.

At the elevator a room attendant more or less demanded a tip, apparently for calling the elevator or something. Maybe he was the guy who was going to clean up my sweat, in which case he earned it, but it makes you wonder what the first guy did for HIS tip.

I'll return at some point because I really like the setup at the Jakarta spas. I hit Hotel Travel, I think it was, a few years ago with much better results, a hot Indo who was GFE throughout the bed fun and even for quite a spell afterward. Probably taking the one hot Uzbek was not a good idea, and I had my reservations at the start, but as I said the time in the lounge was quite nice. It was like she had dual personalities that were determined by what floor she was on.

As noted above, the price seemed to be in keeping with Sean EZ's sideliner but it was sort of hard to figure out the receipt afterward. I think the charge for the girl is deliberately kept off of the itemized bill and only added to the final one, maybe for legal reasons or to give the customer a "clean" receipt he can show. Not sure whom he would be showing it to, though I once put a short time hotel on a travel expense report and got it paid.

So not a great experience but I'm still batting 500. Might try Alexis next time.

On the brighter side, I did not have to bribe my way out of the country like last visit.

United1
06-04-16, 07:12
Gents,

Just a quick note on Coliseum. I went there a few weeks ago. I heard this is supposed to be the new Stadium night club packed with police sponsored drugs and sex. It wasn't completely apparent to me. Its a nice venue and my friends were able to score XTC from the wait staffs. There were a good number of sketchy looking women, however they were not very aggressive or would come over as other FL clubs. Therefore, it wasn't clear to me how much action was going down. Just my experience.

Fast Eddie 48
06-04-16, 23:17
Gents,

Just a quick note on Coliseum. I went there a few weeks ago. I heard this is supposed to be the new Stadium night club packed with police sponsored drugs and sex. It wasn't completely apparent to me. Its a nice venue and my friends were able to score XTC from the wait staffs. There were a good number of sketchy looking women, however they were not very aggressive or would come over as other FL clubs. Therefore, it wasn't clear to me how much action was going down. Just my experience.To United 1.

This are 2 different club Stadium is a disco / Brothel with freelancer and Mamasan offer girl you can do ST at in house room, you don't get this at other disco but golden crown disco do have a hotel upstairs and a KTV club you can pick up girl there and take them to the hotel I miss the stadium club a lot.

Fast Eddie 48.

Jaojoby
06-05-16, 17:28
Just back from 3 days in Jakarta for the first time in years and tried out 3 venues that I had never visited before.

King Cross. Arrived at 11.30 pm. Cover charge of Rp 150 k payable on leaving. Downstairs bar had no dancers and some average looking women sitting around that didn't appeal much. Went up to the massage place. Also average looking women lounging around half asleep. Didn't ask the prices as I had no interest. Went to the upstairs bar. Crowded. Had to stand for 10 minutes to get a table. Girls in bikinis doing the rounds asking for drinks in singles and pairs. 1 drink for Rp50 k gets you some chat and heavy pressure to buy more drinks. For 5 drinks the girl will take off her top, encourage you to suck her nipples and grind her crotch against yours. For a further 5 drinks some will offer to take their bikini bottom off too and grind on you bollock naked. Remember not to wear white jeans to King Cross! The bikini girls all look in their early 20's and all have good to fantastic figures. Young mothers need not apply. At about midnight half a dozen of the 10/10's did a strip show on stage. I took Janie to the hotel for Rp 1. 6 m and had to pay for another 5 lady drinks to release her from her dancing and titty jiggling duties. BBJ, very good attitude and cooperative. General GFE. She asked for a tip and was happy with Rp200 k. No one else asked for tip on the way out. Walked over the road to find my own taxi from the stand outside. Total bill downstairs including 2 rounds of titty fondling Rp2. 4 m. Well worth it IMHO. A mamasan had offered me a Viet for the same price as the sexy dancers Rp1. 6 m but I didn't check that out as the sexy Indo dancers were too good to miss.

Alexis. Arrived at 9. 30 pm. Club downstairs opens at 10 pm. Went up to the spa. Cover charge of Rp150 k. Girls sitting around in groups according to country of origin. Indo, Thai, Viet, China and former USSR. One or two of the Thais looked OK but most had silicone tits and one tall one with a hugely inflated bust was quite obviously a lady boy (post-op I presumed! The lady boy caught me looking at it and started commented to the others in Thai that I was looking at it, obviously unaware I live in TH and speak the language. Not wanting any trouble I decided not to engage with the Thais. The former USSR girls looked rather unappealing and there are plenty of warnings about the poor service one can expect from them. Some of the Chinese and Viets looked quite nice but I was there for Indos. Mamasan seemed friendly and helpful. Prices quoted were Rp1. 4 m for Indos and Rp2. 4 m for foreign girls. I didn't see any local girls I thought were in the 8-10/10 range but picked Tania, a 7/10, quite pretty but with a fake nose, who spoke only a little Inggris. For the price you get 30 minutes in the spa + 1 hour in the sack or just 1 hour in the sack, if you are in a hurry. Time in the jacuzzi was fun with Tania doing a bit of massage and then grinding on my boner. Then she made me get out of the water with the boner sticking out horizontally in the large pair of shorts they make you wear. Into the room and Tania made a good effort with CBJ etc but fell short of GFE and her body was quite nice but I was spoiled by Janie's 10/10 and GFE the night before. Anyway, definitely adequate but not sensational. Afterwards she pushed for a Rp300 k tip. The attendants in the locker room made it clear they expected tips and when I went the toilet before leaving one of the attendants rushed in and pulled a paper towel out of the dispenser for me with other hand outstretched for tip. Paid bill of Rp1. 4 m plus cost of a beer. Waited for a taxi to arrive with a new customer without being asked for a tip, while young Chinese guys got into a chauffeur driver smoked glass S-class. I liked the monkey business in the spa but otherwise thought the selection and experience were quite good but not overwhelming compared to what's available in TH. Alexis is a bit spoiled by the fussiness of being told what to do at every stage by rather serious looking male attendants. Once you know the drill, it should be better. On the way out I went to have a look at the downstairs club which was now open and was sternly hauled out for some reason, perhaps because I hadn't paid a cover charge for it.

Malioboro. Arrived at 6 pm. Went up to the spa. Cover charge Rp130 k and was told the price was Rp900 k outside. Inside the mamasan says it is actually Rp1. 2 m. When I asked why the variance, she says 1. 2 m includes a 300 k tip for the girl. Reasonable selection of Indos only, some 8/10's. In the room she stripped off and had a quite nice body but went into a rather perfunctory routine like a lot of the parlour girls in BKK who have their own strict routine and don't want to vary much from that. Condom on immediately, cuddling, playing with titties or snatch discouraged after a few seconds. CBJ with her sitting between her legs to ensure I can't grab any part of her. Then girl on top with fake moaning, expected it to finish in a couple of minutes. But it didn't due to lack of foreplay on her part and boredom and jadedness on mine. So she ended up having to work quite hard for her money, not understanding what the problem was. No further tip demanded by her in addition to the Rp300 k added to the bill. Paid Rp1. 2 m downstairs. Then the fun started when they asked me if I wanted a taxi, although it is on a busy street and I could see taxis going by that I could easily have hailed for myself. It took them several minutes to get a cab and two doormen demanded tips one after the other saying "I call taxi for you". Then when I get into the car another two security demand tips for calling the taxi and didn't want to let me close the car door. Even though one of those probably did call the car, I was fed up by then and tugged the door shut without paying any more and drove off with the driver roaring with laughter. Perhaps I just had bad luck with a girl who was quite pretty but not my style on the sack, as I don't like a bit of pretense that I am in control. They was no problem wandering around the club and looking into the bar etc but the final episode with 4 guys all claiming they called the taxi and demanding tips pissed me off. If like the place and you're prepared for this annoyance and have Rp5-10 k ready for each, you might not mind. But I wouldn't go there again with that hassle and the less than stellar experience upstairs.

In sum I liked the King Cross sexy dancer bar the best. You can get hassled a lot by sexy dancer girls demanding drinks. But where else in the world can get a young 10/10 topless girl sticking her tits in your face and grinding herself on your boner for 10 minutes for US $18 with the option of a GFE in the sack with her or one of her friends for US $135 including tip? You might get a good shag in BKK for less than that in BKK but most clubs in Bkk don't have such an impressive line up of girls and the titty experience you get for 5 lady drinks at KC is unrivaled in BKK. I thought my girl there would probably be a bit of a head banger doing a job like that but when I got her in the room she seemed quite normal and sweet to talk to. In contrast the girls I got at Alexis and Malioboros came across more like hardened hookers to me. Anyway, every monger has his own preferences and the venues can change quite rapidly but these were my observations in June 2016.

Smoothy
06-06-16, 00:11
One or two of the Thais looked OK but most had silicone tits and one tall one with a hugely inflated bust was quite obviously a lady boy (post-op I presumed! The lady boy caught me looking at it and started commented to the others in Thai that I was looking at it, obviously unaware I live in TH and speak the language. Not wanting any trouble I decided not to engage with the Thais. There was a gorgeous Thai lady boy working Malioboro about 10 years ago. It was amazing how popular she was with the local indos and local chinese clients there. As soon as the lady boy would come downstairs, she / he would be immediately selected again and go right back up. I was surprised Malioboro was allowing a lady boy to work there. Indos are not used to post-op lady boys and how they can look and feel basically exactly like women. My bet is that those guys had no idea they were having sex with a lady boy, and would deny it even today if you asked them if it was a lady boy (because they don't realize it). My recommendation to anyone is to avoid any Thais in those places.

I agree with you that KC is the best alternative of these 3 places. It seems many here prefer Hotel Classic because it is dirt cheap. But the combination of quality and service is so drastically superior at KC, I find Classic to be a waste of time. It just depends what you are wanting. If you want a cheap shag with a young girl and don't care if the service is starfish, you can't beat Hotel Classic. I have honestly never tried the dancers at KC, but there are some there that I would like to sample for sure.

Jaojoby
06-06-16, 14:49
There was a gorgeous Thai lady boy working Malioboro about 10 years ago. It was amazing how popular she was with the local indos and local chinese clients there. As soon as the lady boy would come downstairs, she / he would be immediately selected again and go right back up. I was surprised Malioboro was allowing a lady boy to work there. Indos are not used to post-op lady boys and how they can look and feel basically exactly like women. My bet is that those guys had no idea they were having sex with a lady boy, and would deny it even today if you asked them if it was a lady boy (because they don't realize it). My recommendation to anyone is to avoid any Thais in those places.

I agree with you that KC is the best alternative of these 3 places. It seems many here prefer Hotel Classic because it is dirt cheap. But the combination of quality and service is so drastically superior at KC, I find Classic to be a waste of time. It just depends what you are wanting. If you want a cheap shag with a young girl and don't care if the service is starfish, you can't beat Hotel Classic. I have honestly never tried the dancers at KC, but there are some there that I would like to sample for sure.My guess is that the Thai lady boy at Alexis is a post-op (amputee) and pretends to be a woman, although it is obvious to anyone with BKK experience that this is not the case. At first glance the knockers were extremely tempting, until I got them into proper focus. The problem that many post-ops have is that their artificial vagina is not very big or very robust which can make it painful to have sex repeatedly, or even at all in some cases. Customers in the know will usually opt to bum shag them but, if they are pretending to be bona fide females, they will usually try to make their trick come with a BJ before he has time to investigate what is in their knickers too closely. Some may have a robust enough artificial vagina to to have regular sex with plenty of KY but would have to prevent the customer from fingering them as the orifice is likely to feel unnatural without a proper clit and will not self lubricate at all, if someone gets to it before the KY. The pre-ops pretending to be female in TH will always go for a quick BJ finale, usually refusing to drop their knickers on the grounds of having a period LOL. Nana Plaza in Bkk is going more and more LB for the new Chinese clientele, some of whom know what they are doing and some don't. I imagine it's the same thing at upscale places in Jakarta.

I agree it is best to avoid the Thai girls. They are likely to have been around a few times and be hardened hookers by the time they ply their wares overseas. Much better to go to the source for Thais and try locals in Indo.

Cucumber
06-06-16, 15:40
I just went to Classic. To my dismay, it was closed. The massage service in my hotel is also closed. They say it is because of "Ramadan day". I hope this is just to mark the beginning of Ramadan, and not for the rest of the month. The guards outside Classic said it would open again tomorrow, but I am not sure whether that means tomorrow Tuesday or tomorrow in a couple of days. In the hotel they said the massage service would only open in a couple of days, i.e. on Wednesday. Anybody out there know how long they will be closed, and whether any other places are open today?

Ceegee
06-07-16, 08:48
Ramadan. I've been in town for a few days and did not even realize it was Ramadan. My MO is possibly different to most, I work in the morning so need my beauty sleep. I use the various dating sites / apps to have the girls come to my hotel. Starting out a big night at 11 pm and rolling back to my hotel at 4 am is just not an option for me. I've built up some regulars over the years and usually rotate between them but am always on the lookout for new talent.

Was just talking to a girl on Badoo who was lamenting the fact that BATS is closed. When I asked how much she wanted to come to my room she offered 2 million. I tried to explain that one of my regulars just left with 700 and was quite happy, but she would rather have nothing than my 700. Meh, my balls are empty anyway.

Dave #2
06-08-16, 16:07
Heading to Jakarta next week. Will be staying at the Ritz in Mega Kuningan.

I usually go to Delta Spa near by. Will Delta be open during Ramadan? How about other spas like MyPlace?

Any other places you would recommend in Mega Kuningan area? May end up checking out BATS or Block M.

Thanks for any advice. Really appreciate all the helpful info on the forum.

Fast Eddie 48
06-08-16, 20:32
Heading to Jakarta next week. Will be staying at the Ritz in Mega Kuningan.

I usually go to Delta Spa near by. Will Delta be open during Ramadan? How about other spas like MyPlace?

Any other places you would recommend in Mega Kuningan area? May end up checking out BATS or Block M.

Thanks for any advice. Really appreciate all the helpful info on the forum.To Dave # 2.

There are always actions here if you know where to go if you are coming next week it should be OK, most sauna and brothel only closed down a few days on the first week of Ramadan just ask the taxi guy or just call delta first before you go.

Fast Eddie 48.

Cucumber
06-08-16, 20:58
As mentioned in a previous post, Classic and most other major venues were closed on Monday, seemingly due to the start of Ramadan. But they opened again yesterday. I went to classic and had a good time, though it was different from the way it usually is. There were a bit fewer girls, a good bit fewer customers (so all in all not a bad balance), the girls were all in civilian clothes (mostly jeans), there was no music until 8 pm and there was more lighting than usual. I actually enjoyed the change. The girls looked significantly less attractive in their jeans but that just sharpened my selection instinct, and once I got my chosen ones in the room and out of their clothes there were some fantastic bodies.

Today I went to Malioboro and the situation seemed similar there, although the dancers were still going (but not showing that much skin). I never thought Malioboro was a very good venue anyway. You pay 900 000 or 1. 1 mill for the same type of girl you get for 350 000 in Classic. Yeah definitely there is a considerable starfish risk in Classic, but so is there in Malioboro.

After Malioboro I dropped by Travel and the situation there was similar. A bit lower key than usual, but perfectly ok. And again I confirmed my impression that Travel is not a great place for me. Unlike Classic, in Travel it seems basically impossible to work the scene, engage seriously with the girls before selecting them and both the girls and the mamas have a mean businesslike attitude. In Classic (2nd /3rd floor depending on how you count) the mamas are pushy as hell, but once you realize that its just hawking and that you don't have to do what they tell you, you can socialise a lot there before making your choice (or the girl's choice).

What everybody told me is that now the places will continue to be open in the same way for the rest of June, before closing for a few days again in connection with the end of Ramadan in early July, and then after that things will go back to normal.

Cucumber
06-09-16, 22:55
I have been trying out Badoo. There are a lot of girls there, a lot of whom don't seem to mind someone twice their age. But one thing has left me wondering: very many of them have selected the option under "Sexuality" that they are "open-minded", whereas I have selected "heterosexual". A few have selected bisexual, but most are just "open-minded". I am wondering what this really means, that they are bi-curious or that when they fill in the form in Indonesian the options are different and this means something else? If they all mean that they are something like bi-curious there must be an awful lot of sexual interaction between Indonesian girls, which would open up some interesting options.

ISOtrim
06-10-16, 17:14
I will be brief and vague, so as to avoid details that would unknowingly identify me to colleagues who might also peruse these forums, though I am a true novice in the sense that I have never paid for an orgasm before. At least not directly in cash for the service. This is to say that better Intel proceeds my report in the forum from people with more experience who have paid less and received more.

But I am staying in a major globally branded hotel in the central area of town. I recently popped into the spa for a massage near closing time, not expecting any special treatment, as I have been a long time lurker of these forums but have never acted on any of the tips in the various regions that I travel. I am not particularly adept at reading these situations, and the provider had to be fairly blunt before I was willing to acknowledge her.

In any case, the massage was decent, and I wondered, but had no realistic expectations of being propositioned due to the high profile brand of this hotel chain. Apparently, Jakarta is bursting at the seams with sex workers, and the general tone of this forum not overstated.

The masseuse worked close, but not unusually or suspiciously close to my crotch. Yet, It was enough to arouse me to the point where she asked if we were through or if I wanted to extend the session.

I didn't know how to respond, as there was a bit of a language barrier, but after some coy insinuation, she bluntly asked if there was anything special that I wanted. So I asked what she wanted in return and she offered through miming a hand job, clothed for "5". Now, keep in mind that I wasn't sure what she was saying until her tits were out and my dick was in her hand. So I had to pause and ask what she expected for this and she showed me 7 fingers. I knew I was being ripped off based on what I've read here, but didn't know how to back the price down at this point (beginner's folly). So I thought "fuck it" and reached for what I could grab and let her finish me off. She was nice and sensual about it, kissing and licking my neck and chest, cupping my balls, massaging my taint and encouraged my groping.

So I calculate paying 3 to 5 times what the service was worth. But as a first experience it took the anxiety out of travelling to places like Classic, Malioboro or Alexis to break my cherry. The worst thing is, if I return to the spa I've set a bad precedent, so I'll have to travel to avoid paying the stupid tax. Live and learn.

Cucumber
06-11-16, 06:13
I will be brief and vague, so as to avoid details that would unknowingly identify me to colleagues who might also peruse these forums, though I am a true novice in the sense that I have never paid for an orgasm before.....All of your assessments are correct, including concerning overpayment. The whole point of many in-hotel massages is to get the customer into a situation where they are relaxed and gradually aroused without any pressure and then tempted into wildly overpaying for women that are not that attractive and / or not that good in bed. The key moment in the massage is usually while you are lying on your stomach and she is working on your thighs with large circular movements and for every circle the hand on the inside of your thigh comes further under you and up towards your pelvic area sliding swiftly along the seam between your thigh and your belly, without touching your penis or touching it only very slightly and ambivalently as to whether it is an accident or not. When this is repeated enough times you start thinking what the hell, one has to live, carpe diem. What's special about this business model / sexual interaction is that it allows her to do all the work and give your body lots of attention while she at the same time can be the innocent masseuse just doing her job for the rich foreigner and you still get to be the hunter.

Let me give you one piece of sincere and friendly advice: get your ass over as soon the hell as you can to Classic or, if you have time for a taxi ride (40-80 minutes depending on distance and traffic), even better to Kings Cross. If you do this now, you will just be kicking yourself for not having done it earlier. If you wait and do it later in life, you will kick yourself much harder for not doing it earlier, kick yourself for not doing it while in Jakarta, kick your self for being a dick head and wasting your life.

In Classic go to the second floor (counting with an un-numbered ground floor), don't let the mamasans push you around, take your time, select a girl you like, perhaps one who speaks some English (which is perhaps 10% of them), make sure she is OK going with you and will be warm (ask "good service? Pay the mamasan and go to the room. Don't go for a threesome at this stage, even if it is dirt cheap. In the room you both have a shower. Enjoy watching her squatting and rinsing herself out in the glass shower cubicle, it's like a piece of art. Afterwards tip the girl if she was nice to you.

In Kings Cross, select one of the Indonesian girls, not the foreigners, which are much higher priced and of no particular interest to you. I was at Kings Cross yesterday. I had two gorgeous girls 20 (Queena / Rettna) and 18 years old (Marisha) (one at a time). They may not look so impressive on photos, but with their clothes off they had unbelievable bodies, I couldn't have made them more perfect if I were God. Super petite, super firm, flat-bellied, large breasts that are so big and bouncy and protruding they look like silicone but are not, minuscule waists, swollen pelvic mounds, perfectly shaped round globe asses, very little and very soft pubic hair not because of shaving or some treatment but because that is the way they are, slim legs with a nice gap, cute little feet, pouty kissable lips, tight pussies, really tight. Both were total GFE: French kissing, ticklish because they are young and sensitive and excited, hungry blow jobbing, happy about a lubed finger massaging the outside of their anus during sex, eye-flirting, joking, hugging, asking for phone numbers. They got so wet that they were embarrassed about it. Life doesn't get much better than that. The price was only 420 000 per girl + substantial tipping for the fantastic service. I am not particularly young or good looking. You are not guaranteed or even likely to have experiences like that on your first tries, because it takes time and experience and luck to hit those jackpots. But I am sure you will not regret going done this lane.

If your massage turns out to have been the first step towards moving on to serious mongering, you did not overpay at all.

WhatDHell
06-11-16, 06:27
All of your assessments are correct, including concerning overpayment. The whole point of many in-hotel massages is to get the customer into a situation where they are relaxed and gradually aroused without any pressure and then tempted into wildly overpaying for women that are not that attractive and / or not that good in bed. The key moment in the massage is usually while you are lying on your stomach.

In Classic go to the second floor (counting with an un-numbered ground floor), don't let the mamasans push you around, take your time, select a girl you like, perhaps one who speaks some English (which is perhaps 10% of them), make sure she is ok going with you and will be warm (ask "good service? Pay the mamasan and go to the room. Don't go for a threesome at this stage, even if it is dirt cheap. In the room you both have a shower.Reading this was like having my thoughts being read back to me. Very good advise!

ISOtrim
06-11-16, 16:44
Awesome advice Cucumber. Part of my apprehension was not knowing "the drill" at Classic, and others, and not being in the mood to "figure it out. " I plan on running your play shortly.

The masseuse ran pretty much the exact game you describe, but she wasn't bad looking. Maybe only a six in the face, but a solid 8 in the body. Nice and firm and slender. So, It was pretty nice to finish up and be in my own room in less than ten minutes. And I slept like a baby to boot. I'll look at the whole thing as a lesson learned, and investment toward better things in my mongering future.

Cheers!

Dave #2
06-11-16, 19:33
420,000 at Kings Cross sounds lower than what I've read elsewhere.


All of your assessments are correct, including concerning overpayment. The whole point of many in-hotel massages is to get the customer into a situation where they are relaxed and gradually aroused without any pressure and then tempted into wildly overpaying for women that are not that attractive and / or not that good in bed. The key moment in the massage is usually while you are lying on your stomach and she is working on your thighs with large circular movements and for every circle the hand on the inside of your thigh comes further under you and up towards your pelvic area sliding swiftly along the seam between your thigh and your belly, without touching your penis or touching it only very slightly and ambivalently as to whether it is an accident or not. When this is repeated enough times you start thinking what the hell, one has to live, carpe diem. What's special about this business model / sexual interaction is that it allows her to do all the work and give your body lots of attention while she at the same time can be the innocent masseuse just doing her job for the rich foreigner and you still get to be the hunter.

Let me give you one piece of sincere and friendly advice: get your ass over as soon the hell as you can to Classic or, if you have time for a taxi ride (40-80 minutes depending on distance and traffic), even better to Kings Cross. If you do this now, you will just be kicking yourself for not having done it earlier. If you wait and do it later in life, you will kick yourself much harder for not doing it earlier, kick yourself for not doing it while in Jakarta, kick your self for being a dick head and wasting your life.

In Classic go to the second floor (counting with an un-numbered ground floor), don't let the mamasans push you around, take your time, select a girl you like, perhaps one who speaks some English (which is perhaps 10% of them), make sure she is ok going with you and will be warm (ask "good service? Pay the mamasan and go to the room. Don't go for a threesome at this stage, even if it is dirt cheap. In the room you both have a shower. Enjoy watching her squatting and rinsing herself out in the glass shower cubicle, it's like a piece of art. Afterwards tip the girl if she was nice to you.

In Kings Cross, select one of the Indonesian girls, not the foreigners, which are much higher priced and of no particular interest to you. I was at Kings Cross yesterday. I had two gorgeous girls 20 (Queena / Rettna) and 18 years old (Marisha) (one at a time). They may not look so impressive on photos, but with their clothes off they had unbelieavable bodies, I couldn't have made them more perfect if I were God. Super petite, super firm, flat-bellied, large breasts that are so big and bouncy and protruding they look like silicone but are not, miniscule waists, swollen pelvic mounds, perfectly shaped round globe asses, very little and very soft pubic hair not because of shaving or some treatment but because that is the way they are, slim legs with a nice gap, cute little feet, pouty kissable lips, tight pussies, really tight. Both were total GFE: French kissing, ticklish because they are young and sensitive and excited, hungry blow jobbing, happy about a lubed finger massaging the outside of their anus during sex, eye-flirting, joking, hugging, asking for phone numbers. They got so wet that they were embarrassed about it. Life doesn't get much better than that. The price was only 420 000 per girl + substantial tipping for the fantastic service. I am not particularly young or good looking. You are not guaranteed or even likely to have experiences like that on your first tries, because it takes time and experience and luck to hit those jackpots. But I am sure you will not regret going done this lane.

If your massage turns out to have been the first step towards moving on to serious mongering, you did not overpay at all.

Smoothy
06-12-16, 03:05
420,000 at Kings Cross sounds lower than what I've read elsewhere.Last time I was there, it was a little over 600 k for an hour with the girl in a room. I haven't paid lower than 600 k there in over a year. I'm not saying there might not be some lower priced girls there, but I haven't found them recently. I do know that there are girls who are more expensive there than 600 k.

Blacka0
06-12-16, 17:13
Last time I was there, it was a little over 600 k for an hour with the girl in a room. I haven't paid lower than 600 k there in over a year. I'm not saying there might not be some lower priced girls there, but I haven't found them recently. I do know that there are girls who are more expensive there than 600 k.Well have been many times to kingkross so let me explain if you come at ground floor when you look left those are the cheap girls around 450 and when you go to the right there you have the more pretty girls from around 600 in front of them are the Chinese and Vietnamese girls they go around 1.3 k. You pick a girl sign the with the mamasan and off you go to the rooms.

Smoothy
06-13-16, 05:20
Well have been many times to kingkross so let me explain if you come at ground floor when you look left those are the cheap girls around 450 and when you go to the right there you have the more pretty girls from around 600 in front of them are the Chinese and Vietnamese girls they go around 1.3 k. You pick a girl sign the with the mamasan and off you go to the rooms.Maybe my problem is I haven't picked a girl from the left hand side in quite a while. The last time I did pick one from the left side, she was only 350 k, but that was years ago. The hot ones always seem to be on the right. In all my visits there, I don't think I have seen the Chinese and Vietnamese girls at all.

LifeIsABeach
06-13-16, 05:32
Maybe my problem is I haven't picked a girl from the left hand side in quite a while. The last time I did pick one from the left side, she was only 350 k, but that was years ago. The hot ones always seem to be on the right. In all my visits there, I don't think I have seen the Chinese and Vietnamese girls at all.Is it still 350 at Classic? Why pay more??

Smoothy
06-13-16, 07:58
Is it still 350 at Classic? Why pay more??Sex with the girls at Classic is almost always starfish. The KC girls are actually good fucks.

Ceegee
06-13-16, 09:36
Honestly I don't think they understand what 'open-minded' means in the Western sense. One of my regular girls is bisexual, as in she has had full time girl friends in the past. Trying to find another girl on Badoo or the other apps to join us has been like pulling teeth.

Often they are just pros in it for the money, and when you get specific and ask if they will lick a girl's pussy, they say no. I'm like WTF do you say yes to bisex but no to licking some box? I think they are just wanting to do a 3 some without interacting with the other girl. They are asking for big money too. Maybe because it is ramadan and they need big money to take home, but I just gave up trying to find a real bisexual girl that wants to play for a reasonable price.


I have been trying out Badoo. There are a lot of girls there, a lot of whom don't seem to mind someone twice their age. But one thing has left me wondering: very many of them have selected the option under "Sexuality" that they are "open-minded", whereas I have selected "heterosexual". A few have selected bisexual, but most are just "open-minded". I am wondering what this really means, that they are bi-curious or that when they fill in the form in Indonesian the options are different and this means something else? If they all mean that they are something like bi-curious there must be an awful lot of sexual interaction between Indonesian girls, which would open up some interesting options.

Member #4698
06-13-16, 13:02
Thanks guys for the updates on Kings Cross. I am a big fan of Malioboro/Malio Club and to a lesser extent Alexis, but I have been meaning to tear myself away from these bordellos and expand my horizons. I will definitely check out King's Cross the next time I am in CGK. I can't wait!

Smoothy
06-13-16, 14:11
Honestly I don't think they understand what 'open-minded' means in the Western sense. One of my regular girls is bisexual, as in she has had full time girl friends in the past. Trying to find another girl on Badoo or the other apps to join us has been like pulling teeth.

Often they are just pros in it for the money, and when you get specific and ask if they will lick a girl's pussy, they say no. I'm like WTF do you say yes to bisex but no to licking some box? I think they are just wanting to do a 3 some without interacting with the other girl. They are asking for big money too. Maybe because it is ramadan and they need big money to take home, but I just gave up trying to find a real bisexual girl that wants to play for a reasonable price.The only place I ever found in Jakarta where the girls will actually perform a true threesome where the girls will actually go down on each other as well is Hotel Melawai 6th floor Maribaya Massage.

ShoeyPoey
06-14-16, 07:39
Guys,

I'm new to the Jakarta scene and was wondering if there is anyone in Jakarta right now. Maybe able to show me the ropes if they don't mind. Please PM me and we'll see where we can meet up. I'm currently staying in the Pluit area.

Shoey

Blacka0
06-14-16, 16:26
Maybe my problem is I haven't picked a girl from the left hand side in quite a while. The last time I did pick one from the left side, she was only 350 k, but that was years ago. The hot ones always seem to be on the right. In all my visits there, I don't think I have seen the Chinese and Vietnamese girls at all.Well they are really there maybe they were all busy if you want to try Chinese girls for cheap price king cross is the place to be I find the quality almost the same like Alexis but instead of paying 2.400.000 you only pay 1.400.000 that's what you pay for local girls in Alexis.

Cucumber
06-14-16, 18:17
420,000 at Kings Cross sounds lower than what I've read elsewhere.Yeah it definitely was 420 000 for the locals. The Vietnamese were more, I don't remember how much because I have no interest in them. The lower price could be because of Ramadan for all I know. In Hotel Travel they said there was no entrance fee, perhaps also because of Ramadan, and there also seem to be discounts other places. I also vaguely recall it being more expensive there last year. I also recall the main room looking different. A really helpful waiter who spoke English said they had refurbished recently. I don't know if that is true, I find people here tell me all kind of things that they think I want to hear, but the layout certainly seemed a little different.

The following day I went back to Hotel Classic, popped some cialis and had 5 or 6 girls. It's a bit hazy. I had a nice time, so now I am not so sure King's Cross is really better. Classic is so big. You have to also try out the big hall on the very top floor that can only be reached by lift. Usually its a bit more difficult to operate than the second floor, a bit more like (bloody) Hotel Travel. But this time I walked in at at 7 pm, they had just opened (late because of Ramadan), the lights were on, there was no loud music (until 8 pm, also because of Ramadan), almost no other customers yet and the girls and mamasans were roaring to go. Of course they were doing the usual pushy hawking, but this time they were cracking jokes and slapping my back. I played hard to get and kept the game escalating for a while as I walked to and fro and tried to get eye contact with the girls. It was great fun and led to great results.

After having fucked a couple of beauties on the top floor and two or three on the second floor I had decided to give up and get out, but as I went to pay, one of the pushy mamasans nabbed me and introduced me to this peculiar creature. Perhaps only 140 cm tall, skinny, with a rather unattractive brutish face but an interesting body and a hell of an attitude. She didn't have a round bubbly nose like many Indonesians have, but something different and difficult to define, looked more like a professional boxer. And she seemed aggressively and genuinely horny. If it had been some picture perfect China doll I probably wouldn't have managed to get it up at this stage of the night. Cialis or no cialis. I would have had performance angst. But with a less attractive girl the dynamic is different. And I was on a roll and you only live once (BTW, fuck whoever took the ISG user name CarpeDiem, that was why I ended up with Cucumber).

Anyway, the sex was fantastic and animalistic, somehow surreal with different sounds and movements from other girls. She even smelt different, not bad, just different. When I finally managed to extract myself from her and from Classic and was wondering down the hot night street, it struck me that the whole Homo Floriensis hobbit bones from from Indonesia business some archaeologists are building their academic careers on is true but way overrated. This species neither distinct nor extinct, it's alive and kicking and I just had the great experience of copulating with one very fine specimen. Hell, I had sex with a cave girl, a Neanderthal! If you think that sounds derogatory it is because you are prejudiced and have an unfounded negative view of Neanderthals. For me it was a beautiful experience. Watch out for my findings to be published in the Journal of Anthropological Archaeology as soon as peer review is completed! And it would be academically unethical not to acknowledge the input of may hard-working mamasan research assistant.

Crocodilexp
06-15-16, 02:00
But this time I walked in (to Hotel Classic) at at 7 pm, they had just opened (late because of Ramadan)Nice report, seems like loading up and doing a rampage is a good way to enjoy Classic (I only did single sessions so far, and they were meh). Is the late opening during Ramadan also the case at Hotel Travel and King's Cross? If I go earlier in the day (maybe 1-2 pm), will any of the venues be open?

Crocodilexp
06-15-16, 07:51
After having fucked a couple of beauties on the top floor and two or three on the second floor I had decided to give up and get out, but as I went to pay, one of the pushy mamasans nabbed me and introduced me to this peculiar creature. Perhaps only 140 cm tall, skinny, with a rather unattractive brutish face but an interesting body and a hell of an attitude. She didn't have a round bubbly nose like many Indonesians have, but something different and difficult to define, looked more like a professional boxer. And she seemed aggressively and genuinely horny. Seems like quite a find. Was this one on the top floor or second floor of Classic?

Cucumber
06-15-16, 17:05
Seems like quite a find. Was this one on the top floor or second floor of Classic?The cave girl was on the second floor. I have never seen her or anyone like her there before, and I only stumbled across her (more precisely she stumbled across me) very late in the night.

I called them now and spoke to three different people there who seemed to understand what we were talking about. They all said they open at 1 pm every day the coming three days (and presumably onwards in June too). My last interlocutor, presumably the most senior one, admitted that there may not be so many girls at 1 pm, more from perhaps 5 pm.

As for Hotel Travel I haven't tried to find out because I think that place sucks. Hyper-pushy mamas and bad attitude on the part of the girls, and the whole setup in the main room with the fence separating customers and girls precludes communication. In sum the chances of GFE are low, IMHO.

Smoothy
06-15-16, 17:33
The cave girl was on the second floor. I have never seen her or anyone like her there before.Is this her?

Dave #2
06-15-16, 20:13
When I travel to VN, I start off each day by getting a hair wash at a salon. Is there a similar place in Jakarta? Do you recommend and legit spas for salon services like facials, manicure, pedicure, etc. ? Hair and face washing each day would be great.

Smoothy
06-15-16, 20:37
When I travel to VN, I start off each day by getting a hair wash at a salon. Is there a similar place in Jakarta? Do you recommend and legit spas for salon services like facials, manicure, pedicure, etc. ? Hair and face washing each day would be great.You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a salon like that in Jakarta. Johnny Andrean and Yopie are probably the most popular 2 regular cheap salons like that and they are everywhere. Every mall will have at least one place similar. Which one you go to depends on where you are staying.

Dave #2
06-15-16, 22:21
You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a salon like that in Jakarta. Johnny Andrean and Yopie are probably the most popular 2 regular cheap salons like that and they are everywhere. Every mall will have at least one place similar. Which one you go to depends on where you are staying.Thank you for the information. I will keep an eye for those salsina when I am at the mall. I will be staying near Oakwood at the Ritz.

Cucumber
06-16-16, 16:46
I posted this question in the other areas thread, but there was no response, possibly because nobody follows that thread. So perhaps somebody would like to respond to it on this thread, where I expect most of the competence is gathered:

Does anyone know whether there is any p4 p on Sumba island? Perhaps if nobody knows concretely about Sumba, somebody with good Indonesia expertise could make a guess at what the likelihood is for an Indonesian island in East Nusa Tengara with a population of 600 000, majority Christian with a significant animist minority and one of the poorer islands in Indonesia. Sounds good to me, but the capital Waingatu only has a population of 52 000, and to me that sounds a bit too small and transparent for a local scene to thrive.

Nanijey
06-16-16, 18:04
Hello bro,

I coming to Jakarta for business trip. I usually come every year but never tried any girls. I am looking for 18 to 20 years with Big boobs slim body local local. Kindly PM with good contacts.

Thanks,

NaniJey

Dave #2
06-17-16, 19:35
Since I will be staying at the Ritz, I plan on checking out both Lowey and Cazbar. We these places I can pick up women? Are there working girls at these bars? Will girls here ask for more $ than compared to BATS or CJ?

Smoothy
06-17-16, 21:44
Since I will be staying at the Ritz, I plan on checking out both Lowey and Cazbar. We these places I can pick up women? Are there working girls at these bars? Will girls here ask for more $ than compared to BATS or CJ?It's difficult to pick up girls at either of those places. Although at Loewy there is a chance.

Offshore Swell
06-18-16, 09:04
I posted this question in the other areas thread, but there was no response, possibly because nobody follows that thread. So perhaps somebody would like to respond to it on this thread, where I expect most of the competence is gathered:

Does anyone know whether there is any p4 p on Sumba island? Perhaps if nobody knows concretely about Sumba, somebody with good Indonesia expertise could make a guess at what the likelihood is for an Indonesian island in East Nusa Tengara with a population of 600 000, majority Christian with a significant animist minority and one of the poorer islands in Indonesia. Sounds good to me, but the capital Waingatu only has a population of 52 000, and to me that sounds a bit too small and transparent for a local scene to thrive.As a rule of thumb. The stronger and less homogeneous the culture (Adat), the less permissible conditions are for your craft. The area you are talking about has a strong culture and not a huge deal of Javanese influence. Although not an expert I am not sure that you will find a lot of what you are looking for.

Ceegee
06-20-16, 06:12
Use the dating sites or apps. Search for that location. If you have the app on your phone and allow it to use your GPS location, it can find the closest pussy to you, no matter where in the world you are.


I posted this question in the other areas thread, but there was no response, possibly because nobody follows that thread. So perhaps somebody would like to respond to it on this thread, where I expect most of the competence is gathered:

Does anyone know whether there is any p4 p on Sumba island? Perhaps if nobody knows concretely about Sumba, somebody with good Indonesia expertise could make a guess at what the likelihood is for an Indonesian island in East Nusa Tengara with a population of 600 000, majority Christian with a significant animist minority and one of the poorer islands in Indonesia. Sounds good to me, but the capital Waingatu only has a population of 52 000, and to me that sounds a bit too small and transparent for a local scene to thrive.

Dave #2
06-20-16, 06:45
Drove by Delta Gatot Subroto around 12:45 PM and it was not open. I guess I should have called first.

ISOtrim
06-20-16, 13:03
The following day I went back to Hotel Classic, popped some cialis and had 5 or 6 girls. Can performance enhancers be gotten in Jakarta easily without an Rx? Or is this something you bring from home? I'm slightly worried about a first time anxiety issue without it. Would hate to waste a trip (not to mention the money).

LA Guy 5
06-20-16, 20:14
Can performance enhancers be gotten in Jakarta easily without an Rx? Or is this something you bring from home? I'm slightly worried about a first time anxiety issue without it. Would hate to waste a trip (not to mention the money).Viagra and generic viagra are available at most if not all drug stores, including those in malls. No prescription needed. I believe Cialis is also, although it might only be available as brand name Cialis (I thought at one time I bought generic Cialis in Jakarta, but a few drug stores have since told me they don't have it).

In any event, it will not be a problem.

Ceegee
06-21-16, 02:10
I bought branded Cialis in a small drug store / chemist in a mall last trip. No prescription, just ask at the counter. They offered 10 MG or 25 MG tablets from memory. Very simple and easy to get.


Can performance enhancers be gotten in Jakarta easily without an Rx? Or is this something you bring from home? I'm slightly worried about a first time anxiety issue without it. Would hate to waste a trip (not to mention the money).

Ddoggie111
06-24-16, 11:03
Hello everyone,

I'll be visiting Jakarta for the first time in the month of September for some work of couple of days. However ill be extending my trip for some mongering, I have heard Jakarta is quite good for that can someone put some light on this and also recommend some places also I would like to know their approach towards the expats as I'm from India will there be any issues with that, also I'm planning to visit either Bali or Surbaya to continue mongering later which one will be better or if you guys recommend any other place?

Thanks.

Robert Long
06-24-16, 18:31
Hello everyone,

I'll be visiting Jakarta for the first time in the month of September for some work of couple of days. However ill be extending my trip for some mongering, I have heard Jakarta is quite good for that can someone put some light on this and also recommend some places also I would like to know their approach towards the expats as I'm from India will there be any issues with that, also I'm planning to visit either Bali or Surbaya to continue mongering later which one will be better or if you guys recommend any other place?

Thanks.Are already written in this forum. Read back for each area of interest.

RL.

LA Guy 5
06-25-16, 17:25
Viagra and generic viagra are available at most if not all drug stores, including those in malls. No prescription needed. I believe Cialis is also, although it might only be available as brand name Cialis (I thought at one time I bought generic Cialis in Jakarta, but a few drug stores have since told me they don't have it).

In any event, it will not be a problem.Just to add a bit more detail, I have found the pharmacies in the higher-end malls, such as Plaza Indonesia, have three brandings of Sildenafil: (1) Viagra, branded version and rather expensive; (2) Rozgra, an Indonesian brand, significantly less than Viagra but not remarkably cheap; and (3) what they call generic, the cheapest version. They generally don't call Rozgra "generic" so it should be asked for by name. For my money, that is the sweet spot as I haven't noticed any difference between it an Viagra, whereas what was sold to me as the cheaper generic Sildenafil didn't do the job and raised the question of what it really was.

As before, I'm not sure whether there is anything other than branded Cialis, if that is the drug you want. If there is, I suspect it might be the same deal as with Sildenafil, i.e., you might have to ask for it by the correct brand Indonesian name. But it wouldn't hurt to ask for it by its generic name, Tadalafil, to see what they show you.

ISOtrim
06-25-16, 22:20
Took a trip to King Cross. Arrived around 1:30 AM. Went straight through the door near the cashier and into the bar downstairs. Maybe 40 girls spread out around the edges of the room. Mostly Asian guys lurking at the tables. Guy in a suit jacket comes over, in decent English cuts to the chase and asks if maybe I would be interested in a girl tonight. Price quoted was 675 k for an hour. Told him maybe later and he wasn't pushy about it, just told me to look for him after a drink or two. A few minutes later, 3 girls with fantastic curvy bodies and round asses jump up on stage and dance lazily. None of these girls are 10's. One might have been an 8 on her best day. But occasionally she would really work her hips and drop down in a grinding squat. So I waived the guy from earlier over and asked if she spoke any English. He was like none of those girls speak English. Also, the "pretty dancers" cost 1.25 m. Definitely not worth it given the similar or even better talent throughout the room. So I asked if any of the other girls spoke any English. A few minutes later, he came back with a cute little Indo girl who was barely 5 ft in her 4 inch platform heels. She was sweet and a little shy. Her English was rudimentary, but fluent enough to make some small talk while I sipped on my second double jack Daniels before I asked if she wanted to go to a room.

Got undressed and gave me a short massage, then jumped in the shower together. Had some funny, even entertaining chit chat while she washed me and herself. Once done, tossed her on the bed and started with a little foreplay, mostly for my sake as I didn't want to rush things. She did some BBJ, completely average and uninspired, so I indicated we should move along. She mounted me and tried to insert me bareback. I asked for the condom, as an STD isn't on my list of souvenirs I want to take home. Her on top was OK she wasn't very active, but had some large tits, especially for her size. Didn't complain when I pinched her nipples fairly hard and even a little biting was OK. Didn't mind me playing with her ass either. Spent a few minutes with her on top, a few minutes with her on her back, the rolled her over to finish. Reached around and played with her clit while I was in her, she seemed to like this and I could tell she was getting a little more into it, pushing back on my thrusts. Didn't rush myself, but probably finished with about 20 minutes to spare. She spent the rest of the time giving me a massage. Also gave me her WhatsApp in case I felt like seeing her outside the club. Personally, I think there's more out there to see, but it wasn't disappointing by any means. I give the whole experience a 6 of 10. I spent about 1. 3 m incl tip after two double whiskeys a bottle of water and a juice that I bought the girl. Unfortunately I can't call her to my hotel, as I'm there on business and would be indiscreet. I imagine I could have her again for half the price.

Overall, I'm unlikely to go back to KC until I've tried out the other places mentioned here, and if I do, I'll probably see the top floor lounge instead of the bottom floor bar. I'm thinking Classic or Malioboro. Not wanting to spend the cash on Alexis, as it sounds like nearly 2 x as much. Can it really be worth it?

Smoothy
06-26-16, 10:39
I imagine I could have her again for half the price.Half of 675 K? Not likely. 675 K is cheap for a girl to come to your room.

Kaywhy
06-26-16, 10:50
Overall, I'm unlikely to go back to KC until I've tried out the other places mentioned here, and if I do, I'll probably see the top floor lounge instead of the bottom floor bar. I'm thinking Classic or Malioboro. Not wanting to spend the cash on Alexis, as it sounds like nearly 2 x as much. Can it really be worth it?Good luck with classic, been there 20+ times and can honestly say that I have only had one memorable experience. Her name was Via and never found her again. Maybe I'm picky but you get what you pay for, and I guess I keep returning bc of the price.

ISOtrim
06-26-16, 14:44
Half of 675 K? Not likely. 675 K is cheap for a girl to come to your room.No, I meant half of what I spend in total. I think she would gladly take 600 k, considering that she probably took home significantly less for the hour at KC.

Mind you, I went with her because she was the one who spoke English. It seemed that Ramadan is not the best time for making money in the club.

John Aldrich
06-26-16, 17:15
Hello everyone,

I'll be visiting Jakarta for the first time in the month of September for some work of couple of days. However ill be extending my trip for some mongering, I have heard Jakarta is quite good for that can someone put some light on this and also recommend some places also I would like to know their approach towards the expats as I'm from India will there be any issues with that, also I'm planning to visit either Bali or Surbaya to continue mongering later which one will be better or if you guys recommend any other place?

Thanks.RTFF. There is a wealth of information.

Robert Long
06-26-16, 20:33
No, I meant half of what I spend in total. I think she would gladly take 600 k, considering that she probably took home significantly less for the hour at KC.

Mind you, I went with her because she was the one who spoke English. It seemed that Ramadan is not the best time for making money in the club.The guy that approached you is known as a Makalar. They are everywhere in every business. They are the Middle Man that you didn't need. Next time avoid them and you might be able to nego a better deal.

RL.

ISOtrim
06-29-16, 16:51
Ever so slightly.

I returned to the masseuse who fleeced me a few weeks ago, older, wiser, more experienced. I planned to take the same treatment for 300 or nothing at all, as I was feeling too lazy to cab up north and deal with the hassle of the one stop entertainment complexes. At the very least I would get a good massage, and leave no tip, which after my day was of more value to me.

Before she entered the room I wondered if they would send a new girl, where my slate would be reset, and I could at least get a fair price for the convenience. When the door opened, she made brief eye contact but acted as though we hadn't met before. Maybe she didn't recognize me, I thought.

Near the end of the massage, I started talking to her, telling her that she was the best masseuse I had seen in Jakarta, and that she was prettier. She played coy asking what I meant and I replied, the girls in the north of the city hardly massage at all, to which she laughed a bit embarrassed. As the massage wound down, she paused for the question, do you want the special massage? To which I replied, do you do more than hand? She was a bit confused as her English was rudimentary, but I got the point across by sliding my hand down her thigh and saying do you give full service? She looked down and said how much you pay for that? 700 I replied. She slapped my arm lightly and said you give me that for hand last time. Yes, I replied, but I've been up north and they do full service for that, including the massage.

We haggled a bit, she even broke into frustrated Bahasa a few times. She gave me some grief about coming to Jakarta for fun and how expensive it was to live there and how I bring so much money that I should pay 1 m. I emptied my wallet and said I have 850. If that's not enough it's OK, thanks for the massage. I got up to get dressed and she said, OK. I take it.

She looked slightly defeated, which I took a bit of sick pleasure in. Stay while I get "cap" she said. I brought with me I replied. Her eyes got big and she playfully slapped my arm again and let out a slew of Bahasa or Javanese (I can't tell the difference) which I can only assume were insults.

I won't go into needless detail, but she was a 6 in the face, an 8 in the body, gorgeous long black hair. She made me start slow but picked up the pace, and faked enjoyment well enough for me to get there easily. Definitely a solid experience. She was sweet, and coy and probably over 30 (though it's hard to tell here), just how I like. With the exception of my high school girlfriend who let me do some crazy to her when I was 15, girls just don't do much for me.

AmitGautam
07-03-16, 05:49
I will be visiting Medan this month. Please share a good girl friendly 4-5 star hotel where I can bring girl for ST. Please share good pick up place or name for curvy girls.

Also since I am new in Jakarta how do I book escorts here. Which budget hotels can I access for ST?

Please pm me.

Thanks in advance guys.

Caramello777
07-07-16, 22:34
Thank you Jaojoby for a very informative post.

Very helpful!


Just back from 3 days in Jakarta for the first time in years and tried out 3 venues that I had never visited before.

In sum I liked the King Cross sexy dancer bar the best. You can get hassled a lot by sexy dancer girls demanding drinks. But where else in the world can get a young 10/10 topless girl sticking her tits in your face and grinding herself on your boner for 10 minutes for US $18 with the option of a GFE in the sack with her or one of her friends for US $135 including tip? You might get a good shag in BKK for less than that in BKK but most clubs in Bkk don't have such an impressive line up of girls and the titty experience you get for 5 lady drinks at KC is unrivaled in BKK. I thought my girl there would probably be a bit of a head banger doing a job like that but when I got her in the room she seemed quite normal and sweet to talk to. In contrast the girls I got at Alexis and Malioboros came across more like hardened hookers to me. Anyway, every monger has his own preferences and the venues can change quite rapidly but these were my observations in June 2016.

YellowFevers
07-11-16, 00:58
Currently here. Anyone want a wingman? Happy to travel around a bit. Staying centrally.

PM me.

Cheers,

Yf.

K Constant
07-12-16, 06:54
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I've found that most condoms aren't properly lubricated. If you apply some lube between the condom and your skin (inside the condom) it might help with your lack of sensation.

Fast Eddie 48
07-12-16, 20:45
I've found that most condoms aren't properly lubricated. If you apply some lube between the condom and your skin (inside the condom) it might help with your lack of sensation.To K.

Who the hell does that only the newbie everyone lube the outside of the condom, if you lube the inside then the condom will slip off that not going to help you.

Fast Eddie 48.

K Constant
07-13-16, 01:58
...if you lube the inside then the condom will slip off that not going to help you.

Fast Eddie 48.Interesting theory, and it reminds me of a story.

The last time I was in Bali, a hotel clerk wouldn't let me use my check card to check-in to the hotel. This was the Hard Rock in Kuta. She told with me that the card wouldn't work because it had the word "debit" on it. I explained to her that I had used the card several times already in Bali, and there had never been a problem. I told her to just try the card, but she refused. She called her supervisor and we had the same exact argument. The supervisor called the manager. Same exact argument. This went on for 30 minutes, until I just kept yelling at them, "just try the card".

They tried the card, and it worked. The moral of the story is that it doesn't matter what a bunch of idiots thinks, an experiment will show what's true.

Lee66
07-13-16, 02:55
To K.

Who the hell does that only the newbie everyone lube the outside of the condom, if you lube the inside then the condom will slip off that not going to help you.

Fast Eddie 48.Some og my friends have been trying fuck up the condom some how, so just take truvada and use microbicide also.

Dirk Disco
07-13-16, 05:42
I'll be solo when I visit but I really want to grab a couple of girls rolling on XTC. Anyone have advice on the best night to go?

Lost99
07-13-16, 07:31
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FictionalSpace
07-13-16, 10:43
All of this condom chatter brings a question to mind. I'll be in Jakarta soon and interested in visiting one of the entertainment complexes mentioned on here. After reading back through the forum, it seems that many places don't offer BBBJ. Do any of these places consistently offer that instead of CBJ? I always put on my hat for the main event, but prefer a BBBJ.

Don't worry, I never lube the inside of the condom.

Robert Long
07-13-16, 23:19
Interesting theory, and it reminds me of a story.

The last time I was in Bali, a hotel clerk wouldn't let me use my check card to check-in to the hotel. This was the Hard Rock in Kuta. She told with me that the card wouldn't work because it had the word "debit" on it. I explained to her that I had used the card several times already in Bali, and there had never been a problem. I told her to just try the card, but she refused. She called her supervisor and we had the same exact argument. The supervisor called the manager. Same exact argument. This went on for 30 minutes, until I just kept yelling at them, "just try the card".

They tried the card, and it worked. The moral of the story is that it doesn't matter what a bunch of idiots thinks, an experiment will show what's true.That is SOP for Bali, most are dumber than a fence post. And at the Hard Rock you would think they would be used to a debit card. DUH!

RL.

ISOtrim
07-14-16, 17:31
All of this condom chatter brings a question to mind. I'll be in Jakarta soon and interested in visiting one of the entertainment complexes mentioned on here. After reading back through the forum, it seems that many places don't offer BBBJ. Do any of these places consistently offer that instead of CBJ? I always put on my hat for the main event, but prefer a BBBJ.

Don't worry, I never lube the inside of the condom.My one experience at King Cross did not even attempt to put a condom on me. I had to request it for the FS. Your mileage may vary depending on your ability to communicate with her. Most of the girls speak no English. So if you speak Indo, you may be able to negotiate this before agreeing to take her for the massage.

Member #4400
07-16-16, 09:51
Spent the evening at the Alexis Hotel 7th floor. Got there at about 19:00 and stayed until midnight. When arriving I took the elevator up to the 7th, had my phone camera lens get a sticker over them (they are strict on no photos) and went to the lounge. Nice place, process very straight-forward. All girls separated by nationality and wearing different color dresses. Some man or woman hostess will seat you somewhere and explain the process to you. If you are by yourself it will be in the middle bar area near the Indonesian and Vietnamese girls. Groups can get seats at a table. Most all the staff spoke English other than cleaners, waiters, etc. Local / Indonesian girls are 1.4 million, all other are 2.2 million (Thai, Chinese, Vietnamese and old Soviet block girls). Staff can also do a line up for you if you explain what you like. Also when you arrive you get an electronic bracelet and can put all your belongings in a locker (also opened / locked by the bracelet). All drinks, girls, etc are purchased by them getting your bracelet number and then before you leave you pay the cashier at the exit of the 7th floor. You can go in the bar are wearing street clothes or swim trunks and robe the hotel provides (they have many sizes, so no worries). So once you are seated you can just pick which one you want, take walk around, get a line up, etc. I just sat there and had a beer and many of the Indo girls were waving asking me to choose them. After about 10 minutes of just looking and drinking a beer the host came back and asked if I wanted a line up or made up my mind. I chose 2 Indonesians -separately, not threesome. There is more choice of them, they are half the price, and I think many just as beautiful as the others.

First girl I chose was 20 years old, short, shinny, and quite cute. Never got her name. I got changed into my swim wear and met her at the pool where you can be with her for 30 minutes. We got in and she gave me a massage which really terrible. Then she straddled me and began massaging my cock until I was hard which didn't take long. Then played around a bit, some small chit-chat (she spoke a little English) and then got out. I changed into a dry pair of swim trunks right there at the pool side (everyone does this) and then to the room downstairs where you give number, get key, and the 1 hour clock starts. Took a quick shower rinse off and then got on the bed and had my cock in her mouth in about a minute. Decent blowjob, 7/10 maybe. Should of had her go longer but was a bit worked up so put on the condom and fucked her. Cowgirl, missionary, and then doggie where I finished. All this took probably 20 minutes. Then took quick rinse in shower and then back to bed. This is where she pissed me off. Deal is one hour, one shot and after shot usually girl give massage but this girl refused. Given how shitty she was at the massage in the pool I probably didn't miss anything, but still WTF. So I picked her up in one arm. This girl weighted like 80 lbs. And tossed her on the bed, sucked on her mosquito bite titties awhile working my way down to her pussy which was well kept, no smell. Spent about 10 minutes there and then talked for a while. Then she starts to give me handjob. She jerked by cock but really after maybe 5 minutes it hurt and I ask her to stop. The phone rings which is time up and then get dressed. I get dressed and give her 300 k tip and she say she give me handjob so should get 400 k. I said no, I not cum, and she get little upset and so fuck it I give her 400 k tip. She happy and we leave room. Overall experience a 6/10.

Took about an hour break by the spa, went in the sauna, had a beer, and ready to go again. This time chose a girl with a bit of meat on her bones, decent tits. Her name was Ken (yeah, its a common girls name in Indonesia). Said she was 21. Annoying thing was the host never came back to me to write it up, even when I asked her. She was busy but still I waited 15 minutes standing there like a dork just waiting. So finally I went up to Ken and said go tell your boss we are going now and she did. Met her at the pool and had one of the best upper body massages of my life. Absolutely perfect. After what was probably longer than 30 minutes we went to the room, took shower and got down to business. She asked if I wanted to wear condom for BJ and I said no. She say OK, but washed me up good first. This girl was hygiene crazy, but I think that is a good thing. She even had me brush teeth before and she did the same. Anyways she gave great blowjob, even some deep throat. Give it 8/10. Only downside was she just put condom on me and did not ask if I was ready to fuck. Really I wanted my cock in her mouth a little longer, but whatever. She put on condom and started on top reverse cowgirl. Pussy was actually quite tight. Fuck in a few different positions and finally ended with her on her stomach, legs closed, and me plowing her hard. She was even fucking me back at the end when slowed down. Then rinse off in shower and she asked if she could smoke. I don't smoke but I said OK, it doesn't bother me. We talked for a little while. Her English as actually quite good. Then she started to give me a massage. Arms, hands, legs, feet and finally back. Was very good. She was half done with back when phone rings so we get dressed and I give her 300 k tip which she seemed very happy about. Went upstairs and said good-bye. Overall experience with Ken would be 9/10.

Stayed another hour, had another beer and then checked out. Gave the changing room guys a 60 k tip as they were quite helpful but not annoying. Overall damage for the night was 3,093,000 RPH + 700 K in tips. Which is about $290. I looked at receipt at the end and they ring it all up in many different transactions. For beer, multiple tips, room charge, service charges, etc. But the total was in line with what I expected. Took the elevator downstairs, grabbed a taxi, and headed back to the hotel. I'll be going back again tonight.

Member #4400
07-16-16, 09:57
I just tried to buy Cialis in 5 different pharmacies today. One asked for prescription and other just said no. One old Muslim woman got a bit pissed off and waved me out of her shop. Not sure what she was saying but I have an idea. I am not buying that shit from the street vendors and willing to pay more money for the real branded thing from a pharmacy (even though I know it is no guarantee). Could someone please send me an actual address of name of the a shop that you have bought it from so I don't get yelled at again? Maybe it is because I am in Tangerang and not in the city center, I don't know. But the shops I went to gave me nothing but dirty looks, giggles, and swears. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

WazWallaby
07-17-16, 06:36
Picked up a good girl at Excellso Café in Plaza Indonesia Thursday. Been some years since that actually happened, but anyway. Sitting minding my own business and she invites herself to sit, wants a coffee. What the. ? That is really, really unusual. Jn my experience, these thin shopping mall girls with boyish bob haircuts tucked behind the ear, short dresses and too tall, awkward high heeled shoes are always fuck sluts and Ria was no exception. She had no hesitation joining me across the road at the Pulman Hotel where I was staying. On the way up in the lift, I tongued that sweet ear, and her tiny hand squeezed my cock through my pants.

Ria was short, thin, tiny tits 27 yrs old and had flawless café latte skin, not a mark on her. In a minute she is on her knees sucking my cock, which I had hung out of my fly as we entered the room. She is so light that I can pick her up and give her a deep tongue pash, then she is down on her knees again, sucking me well, then another deep tongue pash. Truly, those deep kisses made me real horny. We get naked and get on the bed, I start to lick and suck her shaved twat. I rimmed her a-hole and then inserted my middle finger. It disappeared all the way in, no problem, and I ream her out with my finger, all while slobbering into her pussy, and thinking I am going to take her front and back passage. Yippee! But no way, I try and and doggy her anal love tunnel but she bucks and yelps "No No" and I relent (but my finger went in smooth as, right? We mish for a while, she is so small underneath me, and then she gets on top and gives me a reverse cowgirl. To be honest, cowgirls styles do not have much effect on me, in that I almost never cum in those pozzies, but she was working hard on top and getting herself more and more excited that I did feel my cum stroke coming on, as it were. I said, "I am going to cum, I am going to cum" and she knows exactly what to do. She dismounts, gets on her knees facing me, closes her eyes, opens her sweet mouth really wide, and shoves out her tongue. Gawd, she wants me to unload in her mouth, just like the porno movies! I jerk my cock a few times and lay my knob on her tongue just as my first cum spurt sprays into her mouth. She immediately closes her mouth and moves forward swallowing my whole shaft. I gripped the side of her head and stroked my cum into her mouth and throat. She drinks every drop.

After a rest we showered, and she really paid my cock, balls and arse a lot of attention soaping and rinsing and rubbing all over for ages. I got real horny again and got down and licked out her a-hole real good, soaped my finger and reamed her again, then tried to fuck her arse, but again she squirmed out of it. Anyway, took her to the bed and dog her standing up at the end of the bed, unloaded inside her until it ran down her leg. Paid her 300 K and got her phone number, plotting in my mind a hot weekend ahead haha. Again, no way. Number didn't work. Will look for her again at Excellso next week, might get lucky. She is probably one of those cute working girls who lives with a bule, and while the poor guy is at work fucking one of the office girls at lunchtime, she is out selling her pussy in the malls. It IS that kind of town.

IndoIndo
07-17-16, 06:46
Some og my friends have been trying fuck up the condom some how, so just take truvada and use microbicide also.Is truvada available in Jakarta?

FreeMonger
07-17-16, 11:34
Hello,

I will be in Jakarta in the last week of September my question is apart from Malioboro, classic and Alexis are there any good places for full services? Please PM me with the details.

K Constant
07-17-16, 16:13
Picked up a good girl at Excellso Caf in Plaza Indonesia Thursday. Been some years since that actually happened, but anyway. Sitting minding my own business and she invites herself to sit, wants a coffee. What the. ? That is really, really unusual. Jn my experience, these thin shopping mall girls with boyish bob haircuts tucked behind the ear, short dresses and too tall, awkward high heeled shoes are always fuck sluts and Ria was no exception.Great report.

You mention Plaza Indonesia, I read another report mentioning Robinson Department Store. What's the best method to cruise these shopping centers and pick out WGs without creating an embarrassing situation of propositioning a non-WG. Also, are you fluent in Bahasa Indonesia? Was it necessary to make this encounter work?

Smoothy
07-17-16, 21:45
Picked up a good girl at Excellso Caf in Plaza Indonesia Thursday. Been some years since that actually happened, but anyway. Sitting minding my own business and she invites herself to sit, wants a coffee. What the. ? That is really, really unusual. Jn my experience, these thin shopping mall girls with boyish bob haircuts tucked behind the ear, short dresses and too tall, awkward high heeled shoes are always fuck sluts and Ria was no exception. She had no hesitation joining me across the road at the Pulman Hotel where I was staying. On the way up in the lift, I tongued that sweet ear, and her tiny hand squeezed my cock through my pants.

Ria was short, thin, tiny tits 27 yrs old and had flawless caf latte skin, not a mark on her. In a minute she is on her knees sucking my cock, which I had hung out of my fly as we entered the room. She is so light that I can pick her up and give her a deep tongue pash, then she is down on her knees again, sucking me well, then another deep tongue pash. Truly, those deep kisses made me real horny. We get naked and get on the bed, I start to lick and suck her shaved twat. I rimmed her a-hole and then inserted my middle finger. It disappeared all the way in, no problem, and I ream her out with my finger, all while slobbering into her pussy, and thinking I am going to take her front and back passage. Yippee! But no way, I try and and doggy her anal love tunnel but she bucks and yelps "No No" and I relent (but my finger went in smooth as, right? We mish for a while, she is so small underneath me, and then she gets on top and gives me a reverse cowgirl. To be honest, cowgirls styles do not have much effect on me, in that I almost never cum in those pozzies, but she was working hard on top and getting herself more and more excited that I did feel my cum stroke coming on, as it were. I said, "I am going to cum, I am going to cum" and she knows exactly what to do. She dismounts, gets on her knees facing me, closes her eyes, opens her sweet mouth really wide, and shoves out her tongue. Gawd, she wants me to unload in her mouth, just like the porno movies! I jerk my cock a few times and lay my knob on her tongue just as my first cum spurt sprays into her mouth. She immediately closes her mouth and moves forward swallowing my whole shaft. I gripped the side of her head and stroked my cum into her mouth and throat. She drinks every drop.

After a rest we showered, and she really paid my cock, balls and arse a lot of attention soaping and rinsing and rubbing all over for ages. I got real horny again and got down and licked out her a-hole real good, soaped my finger and reamed her again, then tried to fuck her arse, but again she squirmed out of it. Anyway, took her to the bed and dog her standing up at the end of the bed, unloaded inside her until it ran down her leg. Paid her 300 K and got her phone number, plotting in my mind a hot weekend ahead haha. Again, no way. Number didn't work. Will look for her again at Excellso next week, might get lucky. She is probably one of those cute working girls who lives with a bule, and while the poor guy is at work fucking one of the office girls at lunchtime, she is out selling her pussy in the malls. It IS that kind of town.If you only gave her 300 k, her top intention was not "selling pussy". If she really was in it for the money, she will not go with you again. If she likes you enough to go with you again, she will do it for free. Us guys living in Jakarta like to call the money we give the girls "taxi money", but in reality we are paying for their services as well as the taxi (normally between 700k and 1.5 million rupiah). 300k is truly little more than taxi money. The girl is basically making nothing in that case. I lived in Jakarta over 10 years and have had an experience similar to that one maybe 10 times in 10 years. Unless you look like Brad Pitt, I wouldn't expect that to be the norm.

LA Guy 5
07-17-16, 23:19
I just tried to buy Cialis in 5 different pharmacies today. One asked for prescription and other just said no. One old Muslim woman got a bit pissed off and waved me out of her shop. Not sure what she was saying but I have an idea. I am not buying that shit from the street vendors and willing to pay more money for the real branded thing from a pharmacy (even though I know it is no guarantee). Could someone please send me an actual address of name of the a shop that you have bought it from so I don't get yelled at again? Maybe it is because I am in Tangerang and not in the city center, I don't know. But the shops I went to gave me nothing but dirty looks, giggles, and swears. Your help would be greatly appreciated.As I mentioned earlier, I buy Viagra or generic Viagra regularly in pharmacies at malls such as Plaza Indonesia; not so sure about Cialis. While doing so I have never gotten anything approaching a dirty look, giggle, or swearing. So I'm not sure what you are doing to evoke these.

For Viagra or generic Viagra I go to either Century or Guardian (if I am remember the names correctly) at any major mall. Not sure if they have Cialis.

When you ask for Cialis, are you speaking in Bahasa Indonesia? If not, it might be you are pronouncing it wrong and not being understood. I sometimes write out what I want so as to avoid any misunderstandings. If you should decide to go the Viagra route and don't want to spend for brand-name Viagra, ask if they have Sildenafil, which is the active ingredient in Viagra. They often get confused when asked for "generic Viagra' but often will respond to Sildenafil.

WazWallaby
07-18-16, 10:57
If you only gave her 300 k, her top intention was not "selling pussy". If she really was in it for the money, she will not go with you again. If she likes you enough to go with you again, she will do it for free. Us guys living in Jakarta like to call the money we give the girls "taxi money", but in reality we are paying for their services as well as the taxi (normally between 700k and 1.5 million rupiah). 300k is truly little more than taxi money. The girl is basically making nothing in that case. I lived in Jakarta over 10 years and have had an experience similar to that one maybe 10 times in 10 years. Unless you look like Brad Pitt, I wouldn't expect that to be the norm.That's right, when I offered to pay, she did say she just wanted taxi money, but the 300 k was all I had in my wallet at the time, and she barely gave it a second look, which made me think she was going to go home and get ready for hubby or whatever. Also I asked her for her number after that and she gave me a seemingly dud number, so just stating, no more for you tight arse, haha, or something like that. I was very pleased to meet her though.

WazWallaby
07-18-16, 11:03
Great report.

You mention Plaza Indonesia, I read another report mentioning Robinson Department Store. What's the best method to cruise these shopping centers and pick out WGs without creating an embarrassing situation of propositioning a non-WG. Also, are you fluent in Bahasa Indonesia? Was it necessary to make this encounter work?Yes, I am conversationally very fluent in Indonesian, and language skills, with some humour and just being decent, respectful and keeping yourself clean can get you miles and miles and miles with Indonesian women of all types, no risk. To be honest, that event has hardly happened to me in Jakarta before. I live in Bandung, which is different, but the best situation I have found over the years for picking up mall working girls is Surabaya. With a little dedication, have managed to pick up in TP shopping plaza 3 out of every 4 trips to SLand. Recommended.

WazWallaby
07-18-16, 11:05
As I mentioned earlier, I buy Viagra or generic Viagra regularly in pharmacies at malls such as Plaza Indonesia; not so sure about Cialis. While doing so I have never gotten anything approaching a dirty look, giggle, or swearing. So I'm not sure what you are doing to evoke these.

For Viagra or generic Viagra I go to either Century or Guardian (if I am remember the names correctly) at any major mall. Not sure if they have Cialis.

When you ask for Cialis, are you speaking in Bahasa Indonesia? If not, it might be you are pronouncing it wrong and not being understood. I sometimes write out what I want so as to avoid any misunderstandings. If you should decide to go the Viagra route and don't want to spend for brand-name Viagra, ask if they have Sildenafil, which is the active ingredient in Viagra. They often get confused when asked for "generic Viagra' but often will respond to Sildenafil.Invaluable advice for this 60 yr old! Guardian here I come hehe.

JimNpou1
07-24-16, 00:03
Guys,

I know that TC closed long ago. Is there anything like it around these days? It had a totally different vibe than Travel or Classic, much sleazier. Also, is Bintang Mawar still around? Anybody been there lately who can attest to quality?

Thanks for the info.

Socker
07-24-16, 03:52
That's right, when I offered to pay, she did say she just wanted taxi money, but the 300 k was all I had in my wallet at the time, and she barely gave it a second look, which made me think she was going to go home and get ready for hubby or whatever. Also I asked her for her number after that and she gave me a seemingly dud number, so just stating, no more for you tight arse, haha, or something like that. I was very pleased to meet her though.It sounds like she had a good time with you, your session sounds like you were a great fuck for her but when you short these hookers it leads to them asking the next guy for the money up front. Which could make a bad session for the next guy. So when guys are confronted with a hooker asking for money up front (a serious no no) this is why, you shorted her and she gave you good service. This is how hard ass hookers are created. Otherwise you were very impressive and fucked her good.

Fast Eddie 48
07-24-16, 22:56
Guys,

I know that TC closed long ago. Is there anything like it around these days? It had a totally different vibe than Travel or Classic, much sleazier. Also, is Bintang Mawar still around? Anybody been there lately who can attest to quality?

Thanks for the info.To Jim.

Yes Bintang mawar is still there Lokasari plaza still have a few bar and massage place still open, newton a new high end KTV open last yr and Millie disco is still there but going down hill fast, there are still area like Blok m and Panjay near Magar Dua with low end KTV still around but it will be gone soon.

Fast Eddie 48.

Chuday
07-29-16, 13:58
What are my daytime (between the hours of 12 pm & 9 pm) options on Saturday & Sunday? In the past I've been to Kartika as well as Classic (in the afternoon) but the quality is not high.

Is Alexis / Malioboro a good option during the day time? Based on the field reports I've read so far it seems that Alexis is a better option than Malioboro. And assuming this is the right site http://alexisjakarta.com/chill.php then it shows that Alexis is open during the day. How is the selection during day time compared to night time?

Last - What's the difference between the 5th & 7th floor of Alexis. 7th seems to be a bath-house. Is the 5th only a FS massage?


Thanks,

Chuday.

Chuday
07-29-16, 14:10
Hey Traveler1234,

Does this mean that Alexis is a good option during day-time?


I stopped to peek into Alexis earlier today and saw the renovation on the ground floor being 80% complete. Probably
why they won't visit till next week, LOL!

On another note, one drop dead gorgeous girl from harbin China available at 2 pm.

Traveler1234
07-29-16, 15:00
Hey Traveler1234,

Does this mean that Alexis is a good option during day-time?Many of the imports don't get in till 4 pm but at 2 pm, you'll find sufficient selection. There is a 150 K entry fee, regardless of whether you stay 1 minute or 2 hours, etc.

FreeMonger
07-29-16, 21:01
I read about Vins lounge on Jakarta 100 is that place open? Has anyone been there?

Offshore Swell
07-31-16, 14:57
Well OS is sitting here in the apartment he shares with Lady OS and nursing his big thing after a wild 24 hours in favorite North Jakarta Hotels, Clubs and Brothel complex. Fortunately Lady OS is at that time of the month and being a principled sort of a girl. She is resisting her desire to play with OS's big thing. This is rather fortunate.

Flying in to Soekarno Hatta, the plane was late. One hour from touchdown at some distant stand off bay in some remote corner of the airport and then a ride in a bus with all those stupid people who won't move up the bus aisles, to a terminal where the baggage takes forever. OS appeared to the casual observer as a mild mannered businessman, but deep inside was gnashing his teeth thinking of all those nymphettes so close and awaiting his affections. This was no time to play the dodge the security guy taxi games on the departure level, but straight into a silver bird and on to the Grand Mercure Gajah Madah, which provides a comfortable base for any foray into the land of sin that is Mangga Besar. Check in, throw the valuables into the safe, brush the teeth and onto the ojek outside. First stop, money changer, then to pick up some experience enhancers from seedy nightclub. These ojek drivers are a great bunch of guys, they will happily wait for you, and look after your things while you do your business. The group outside Grand Mercure are always happy to help, they are a weatherbeaten bunch of guys but their hearts are good and they know all the rat runs.

Next stop favorite brothel complex where OS bids adios to Ojek and finds layers upon layers of beatiful young ladies of negotiable affection. They are a funny bunch, often they will scowl at bule, some will smile. But get them in the room and treat them nice and they become ever so GFE. A little bit of conversation, a cuddle and before you know it they are grinding away quite happily with OS's big thing inside them. There's always a chance you may be their first bule. Relax and ignore the smell of [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) coming up out of the shower drain, instead pretend it's romantic and just touch her gently, and you just might be surprised at the sensual thing that emerges from her cover.

Of course there are always some who are just petrified of big size, and in those instances, the right thing to do is to just try gently, but if they are still not comfortable, just write the investment off and walk away. These girls are all very human and they will be fearful that you will complain to Mammy. Don't do it!, just walk away, forget about the money for it cost you nearly nothing anyway and choose from the hundred or more other beauties who are sitting patiently awaiting your call. That way the girls get to know that you are baik,(good), and it will pay dividends in the long run. The only thing these girls don't like to do much is kiss. Which, given the proportion of Indonesian males who still think they are the Marlboro man, this is not surprising.

After 5 hours of languishing in this version of heaven with heightened sensory perceptions and making multiple journeys up and down the stairs, it's closing time. All the girls disappear to the mess on ojeks and OS also takes ojek to Golden Crown. Here is the heart of Jakarta clubbing. Everybody seems to be bouncing off the walls and OS somehow collects a couple of off duty sales promotion girls (SPG's), who have somehow detected that he may be a honey pot. So OS takes the table and proceeds to dance and touch and OS does not disappoint them as a honey pot. They say that with expectation comes disappointment so OS was mindful not to hope too much that this girl who was grinding her bottom up against his crotch, would soon be grinding away with his big thing in his bed. These girls are professionals at this business and just like Cinderella, when the clock struck twelve. She disappeared with a goodbye before closing, "I go now, thank you", her friend being rather pissed at OS for failing to provide some taxi money. "Sorry baby, F you baby. OK good night!

Then she returns five minutes later with a rather unattractive friend to offer me for money, I was truly surprised after the quality of previous brothel complex that such a scowling unfriendly looking woman would be plying her trade here. OS just could not raise any interest. So five AM comes and OS takes a leisurely walk back through the streets to Grand Mercure where the receptionist bids good night with a smile as the light is breaking out.

As always, these good times come at a price. OS now has to nurse his big thing for a little longer and just hide away inside the apartment for 48 hours which becomes a good time to write. But would he do it again. Yup! In a heartbeat!

Enjoy.

OS.

Chuday
08-06-16, 10:45
Recently spent 4 days in Jakarta. First of all want to thank all the members who have answered my questions and made my stay memorable.

Day 1:

Checked into Shangri-la. In the evening visited BATS. Had a couple of beers. Met a tall, slim girl from North Java who claims she was 24. Time was about 11:30 pm. Her offer was 2 mil. We agreed on 1. 5 mil for the night and she stayed till 7:30 am in the morning. I had to go to work so reluctantly bid her good bye and went to work. She was good in bed. Good GFE. Very small boobs but large nipples. Thanks to padded bras, they were not that small before I unwrapped the present.

Day 2:

Again visited BATS after work. Ran in to the same talent from previous night. But was in the mood for something different and not repeat the same dish even if it was good. Lots of girls but nothing that I liked. The few chinese looking girls that I liked appeared to be non-friendly. Did not smile when I looked at them. Was total turn off. The other 2/3 girls that I approached wanted 2 mil for a short-time and 4 mil for long time. I thought the offer was ridiculous. It was not an affordability issue. But was too afraid to ruin the market rate for everyone else. As I was leaving, I ran into a petite talent who agreed to 1. 5 mil again for the night. Happy me and her went up to the room and rest is history.

Day 3:

At night visited CJ's. Lots of talent. Nothing I liked. May be because I was being too choosy or that I was not that horny. Spoke to couple of talents. One did not speak english and I did not speak Bahasa. So kissed her bye because I do not want to practice sign language in the room. The other one wanted 2 mil for 1 shot. I would have agreed if her attitude was a bit more friendly or if I was that horny. Decided to head back to the hotel and told myself that "tonight I'll be 2 mil richer. " May be that me consoling myself so that I do not feel bad.

Day 4:

Visited the famous Alexis hotel and went straight to the 7th floor. Everything that has been said about the hotel is true. So I am not going to through the process. Reminded me of the fish bowls in Singapore and I did find the service to be somewhat mechanical. Sauna, room, shower, sex, shower, rating, kiss bye, drink, hangout & checkout. It is a great option for a quick day time release. During checkout they will produce a detailed break down receipt however you are not allowed to take the receipt with you. You just pay the amount. How weird? And I did notice that I was charged a tax on my tip amount. Besides alcohol, the breakdown was: Local girl (1. 4 mil), room (250 k? Tip (300 k) and tax for a 1-1. 5 hrs of fun. On my way back I was thinking that may be a 2 mil pull from BATS / CJ's is not a bad deal at all. Decided to visit Alexis in the future only on emergencies.

All in all, good trip. Hopefully I did not fuck up the market rate. Did not get a lot of time to review the pricing in the forums. If so, I apologize in advance. Next stop Dubai.

Alex7J
08-06-16, 14:27
Recently spent 4 days in Jakarta. First of all want to thank all the members who have answered my questions and made my stay memorable.

All in all, good trip. Hopefully I did not fuck up the market rate. Did not get a lot of time to review the pricing in the forums. If so, I apologize in advance. Next stop Dubai.Dubai has so much variety dude you will go crazy with the variety and availability of pussy.

Cheers.

Betong
08-06-16, 14:54
But was too afraid to ruin the market rate for everyone else.That's very considerate of you but don't worry about it too much. The supply / demand mechanism is remarkably efficient at producing a fair price for both provider and consumer. And a single person, or even a bunch of them, paying too much or too little doesn't have much effect. Know the market price and then pay what it's worth to you. . . Which is what it sounds like you did.

That said. . . Asking 2 million for a short time? I guess I've been away too long. And that doesn't encourage me to come back. Ridiculous.

LA Guy 5
08-06-16, 19:21
Recently spent 4 days in Jakarta. First of all want to thank all the members who have answered my questions and made my stay memorable.

Day 1:

Checked into Shangri-la. In the evening visited BATS. Had a couple of beers. Met a tall, slim girl from North Java who claims she was 24. Time was about 11:30 pm. Her offer was 2 mil. We agreed on 1. 5 mil for the night and she stayed till 7:30 am in the morning. I had to go to work so reluctantly bid her good bye and went to work. She was good in bed. Good GFE. Very small boobs but large nipples. Thanks to padded bras, they were not that small before I unwrapped the present.

Day 2:

Again visited BATS after work. Ran in to the same talent from previous night. But was in the mood for something different and not repeat the same dish even if it was good. Lots of girls but nothing that I liked. The few chinese looking girls that I liked appeared to be non-friendly. Did not smile when I looked at them. Was total turn off. The other 2/3 girls that I approached wanted 2 mil for a short-time and 4 mil for long time. I thought the offer was ridiculous. It was not an affordability issue. But was too afraid to ruin the market rate for everyone else. As I was leaving, I ran into a petite talent who agreed to 1. 5 mil again for the night. Happy me and her went up to the room and rest is history.

Day 3:

At night visited CJ's. Lots of talent. Nothing I liked. May be because I was being too choosy or that I was not that horny. Spoke to couple of talents. One did not speak english and I did not speak Bahasa. So kissed her bye because I do not want to practice sign language in the room. The other one wanted 2 mil for 1 shot. I would have agreed if her attitude was a bit more friendly or if I was that horny. Decided to head back to the hotel and told myself that "tonight I'll be 2 mil richer. " May be that me consoling myself so that I do not feel bad.

Day 4:

Visited the famous Alexis hotel and went straight to the 7th floor. Everything that has been said about the hotel is true. So I am not going to through the process. Reminded me of the fish bowls in Singapore and I did find the service to be somewhat mechanical. Sauna, room, shower, sex, shower, rating, kiss bye, drink, hangout & checkout. It is a great option for a quick day time release. During checkout they will produce a detailed break down receipt however you are not allowed to take the receipt with you. You just pay the amount. How weird? And I did notice that I was charged a tax on my tip amount. Besides alcohol, the breakdown was: Local girl (1. 4 mil), room (250 k? Tip (300 k) and tax for a 1-1. 5 hrs of fun. On my way back I was thinking that may be a 2 mil pull from BATS / CJ's is not a bad deal at all. Decided to visit Alexis in the future only on emergencies.

All in all, good trip. Hopefully I did not fuck up the market rate. Did not get a lot of time to review the pricing in the forums. If so, I apologize in advance. Next stop Dubai.Thanks for the report. The prices you paid were about right for the venues you visited, so I wouldn't worry about it. 1. 5 million for overnight from BATS is not bad at all these days, although there might be some who negotiate hard or show up when things are slow and can report they got a better price (but then there is the quality question as some of those who might report getting low prices consistently might not be getting the highest quality). In any event, it sounds like you had fun, which is the main thing.

FreeMonger
08-06-16, 19:46
Hello,

I'm an avid reader of this forum and will be visiting Jakarta for the first time in September can someone please tell me the current ongoing prices for places like Alexis, classic and Malioboro for one session because I don't want to overpay.

Traveler1234
08-07-16, 17:54
Hello,

I'm an avid reader of this forum and will be visiting Jakarta for the first time in September can someone please tell me the current ongoing prices for places like Alexis, classic and Malioboro for one session because I don't want to overpay.If you're an avid reader, you'd know the prices as they haven't changed in the past year or so.

Cucumber
08-09-16, 15:16
I spent some time in Jakarta recently. Went to Classic, Travel, Malioboro, Kings Cross and Sumo. The latter two were best.

[Deleted by Admin] On floor 5 the girls are less friendly and it is more difficult to interview, similar to Travel.

Travel was true to form, slightly prettier girls than Classic but difficult mamasans and hard work. Girls seem geared towards high-paying Asian customers. However, if one comes early in the evening one can have some success.

Malioboro is nice, more pricy than Classic and Travel. Note that has two separate parts, one more pure gogo club style, one more like Classic but with just a little gogo. The entrance to the latter closer to the street and is best for me, because I prefer selected from couches and having conversations, whereas in the former the music is louder, the tempo higher, the lights down etc. They are connected via an obscure corridor somewhere on the upper floors. One can end up spending quite a lot of money at Malioboro, especially if one is tempted to take one of the dancers to a room, as I was. And that can be difficult to resist because some of them are incredibly sexy, bouncy, energetic things.

As on my last trip, Kings Cross and Sumo, located a block apart in the Gelapa Gading area way out of the center of town, were my favorites. Prices vary, but are generally a bit above Classic and Travel without being unreasonable. When you walk in, the girls don't look all the great, but if you go for the ones who are interested in you you may have some beautiful experiences.

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Bkk212
08-18-16, 18:30
My recent trip to Jakarta wasn't a very good experience, due to immigration. Just a warning to those who don't know this, carry your passport with you when you are outside your hotel. I got detained outside the Novotel by immigration who were not too pleasant. They insisted on seeing my passport which I didn't have on me and then they wouldn't let me get it from the room. So I was detained in the office fro 24 hours, until I got the hotel manager to bring my passport to me in the office. It really was a nightmare /.

Next topic the girls at Blok M seems to be improving a bit, there were many more selections this time around in the bars in Blok M. Lots of new faces around and of course they all seems to be stuck on this 1 M price tag. Did take my usual girl but she isn't my much fun, very nice to look at, can dance as well but a "no touch" experience in the room. I thought over time she would lighten up a bit but still no GFE with her after so long.

LA Guy 5
08-18-16, 21:52
My recent trip to Jakarta wasn't a very good experience, due to immigration. Just a warning to those who don't know this, carry your passport with you when you are outside your hotel. I got detained outside the Novotel by immigration who were not too pleasant. They insisted on seeing my passport which I didn't have on me and then they wouldn't let me get it from the room. So I was detained in the office fro 24 hours, until I got the hotel manager to bring my passport to me in the office. It really was a nightmare /.

Next topic the girls at Blok M seems to be improving a bit, there were many more selections this time around in the bars in Blok M. Lots of new faces around and of course they all seems to be stuck on this 1 M price tag. Did take my usual girl but she isn't my much fun, very nice to look at, can dance as well but a "no touch" experience in the room. I thought over time she would lighten up a bit but still no GFE with her after so long.Sorry to hear about your experience. I am curious though about how it came about that immigration (rather than the police) nabbed you outside the Novotel. If possible, could you provide some more detail about this given my previous experiences with the passport issue have always involved the police, not immigration?

In a way your post vindicates some of my earlier posts which stated I always (actually almost always) carry my passport with me when in Jakarta to avoid these sorts of situations. I have it in a passport holder that I keep in my front pocket but have attached to one of my belt loops for security (which is under my shirt tail). One of the yahoos here who seems to have nothing better to do than to criticize others' posts once posted that the fact I carried my passport with me meant I had no credibility on this board. I wish it was he, not you, who had been detained, but I suppose there is always hope for the future.

Marky1
08-19-16, 05:46
My recent trip to Jakarta wasn't a very good experience, due to immigration. Just a warning to those who don't know this, carry your passport with you when you are outside your hotel. I got detained outside the Novotel by immigration who were not too pleasant. They insisted on seeing my passport which I didn't have on me and then they wouldn't let me get it from the room. So I was detained in the office fro 24 hours, until I got the hotel manager to bring my passport to me in the office. It really was a nightmare /.Wow. What time of day / night did this happen? Did they demand a bribe at any point?

Lost99
08-19-16, 08:52
S/One of the yahoos here who seems to have nothing better to do than to criticize others' posts once posted that the fact I carried my passport with me meant I had no credibility on this board. I wish it was he, not you, who had been detained, but I suppose there is always hope for the future.Can't believe someone here would have nothing better to do than criticize for not carrying a passport? I guess some people like to put others down to feel more important, as they have nothing else going on in their lives. Pretty sad if you ask me.

Koperen Klaas
08-22-16, 20:32
The only place I ever found in Jakarta where the girls will actually perform a true threesome where the girls will actually go down on each other as well is Hotel Melawai 6th floor Maribaya Massage.The Maribaya girls work together very well but even the famous Shella was a bit apprehensive when Sasa started licking her nipples.

Regards,

Ko

Bkk212
08-23-16, 04:35
Hi All,

I had a few questions about my immigration issue so I will try to answer them now.

But first I saw a post about the threesome in Jakarta and as much as I would like to try this every time I go to Jakarta I can't seem to make it happen for the best result. About 1 year ago I tried 2 girls from the mama on Gajah Mada but it was a nightmare experience. And now I am concerned about the WOS in the Novotel as now I am known by everyone so what I do is surely passed around in the hotel.

Ok immigration details: I was leaving the Novotel on 26th July, 2016 around 11:45 pm (my usual time) on my way to Blok M. As I left the hotel I noticed a group of people with TV cameras out on the street in front of the hotel but I paid no attention to them and walked past. That's when several individuals claiming to be immigration officers approached me and asked for my passport, now I was still on Novotel property I didn't leave the hotel area when they approached me, as I didn't have my passport they told me I had to wait in the van that was parked on the street. While waiting they were manhandling several other tourists walking by on the street. We were taken to the immigration office in Kota and asked to wait there until the "boss" arrived. He did around 1:00 am and those who had their passports were processed first. There were about 45 individuals in the room, about 6 from the Novotel myself and 5 other Chinese (who had their passports). Others were from different hotels in the area.

Bkk212
08-23-16, 04:53
In the office they were processing individuals at a very slow pace. Some of the others were from UK and other English speaking countries so we started to discuss among ourselves what was going on. Being held because we did have our passport and not being allowed to go and get it, really doesn't make any sense. Until one guy claimed that we would have to pay 250,000 IDR each as a fine to leave. But around 4:00 am they (immigration) decided that they would stop processing and that we would have to wait until the morning for when the "big boss" arrives. So once again we asked why can we not go and get our passports, no answer and at this point they (all of them) started to pretend that they can't speak English so they can't understand what we are asking.

At 9:00 am the next day some of the other individuals contacted their embassy and the embassies sent someone to help them out, but what the embassy individuals did was got to the hotels and bring the passports to the office. I contacted the Canadian embassy which was of no help whatsoever. On the trip by myself I was stuck as what to do. So I called the Novotel manager and he went to my room and sent the bellboy with my passport to the office. However the bellboy got the run around for about 3 hours (which I did not have any contact with him except by phone), after 3 hrs he called the manager who came down in person to speak with the whomever. He apparently made some progress as about 4 pm on Wednesday the "big boss. Stephen Gentes" came to speak with me to tell me that I would be processed later. Later was around 10:00 pm on Wednesday in which they checked / verified what they had to do and I was allowed to leave. The manager of the hotel really did help me out quite a bit and for that I am eternally grateful.

Someone asked about a bribe but I wasn't about to pay any bribes if that was ever a topic with me I would have called the hotel manager once again to intervene. But some of the other guys were telling me that they were told they had to pay 2. 5 M IDR to get released, he got this from his wife as she was discussing this with the officers. How true this is I don't know.

This is my very disappointing experience in Jakarta for July 2016, I have been coming here semi-annually for almost 10 years. Looks like I will have to choose BKK next time for my holidays.

Bkk212
08-23-16, 04:57
I posted some more details about the experience with immigration, in 2 parts.

In your post you said that you always carry your passport, were you aware that you had to or were you just being cautious?

Reason why I asked, is while I was living in Bangkok I never carried my passport but had my drivers license on me at all times. When I was stopped by police this was enough for them when they checked. However it wasn't enough for the IDN immigration.


Sorry to hear about your experience. I am curious though about how it came about that immigration (rather than the police) nabbed you outside the Novotel. If possible, could you provide some more detail about this given my previous experiences with the passport issue have always involved the police, not immigration?

In a way your post vindicates some of my earlier posts which stated I always (actually almost always) carry my passport with me when in Jakarta to avoid these sorts of situations. I have it in a passport holder that I keep in my front pocket but have attached to one of my belt loops for security (which is under my shirt tail). One of the yahoos here who seems to have nothing better to do than to criticize others' posts once posted that the fact I carried my passport with me meant I had no credibility on this board. I wish it was he, not you, who had been detained, but I suppose there is always hope for the future.

LA Guy 5
08-23-16, 05:21
I posted some more details about the experience with immigration, in 2 parts.

In your post you said that you always carry your passport, were you aware that you had to or were you just being cautious?

Reason why I asked, is while I was living in Bangkok I never carried my passport but had my drivers license on me at all times. When I was stopped by police this was enough for them when they checked. However it wasn't enough for the IDN immigration.Thanks for the clarification. I used to carry a photocopy of the relevant portions of my passport. However, I once was stopped while in a Bluebird on Pangeran Jayakarta and the policeman said I needed my original passport and had a choice of paying him $100 US or "going to the office." I ended up negotiating the amount down to 100,000 rupiah, but found the incident unsettling, particularly given who knows what he would have done if I selected "going to the office"; I suppose there was an outside chance of having drugs planted on me or something similar.

Since that incident I do almost always carry my passport while in Jakarta. Although I have been stopped only one additional time (I noted where most of the stops in North Jakarta were being made and avoided them), showing my passport got me through that checkpoint. One might counter that if a policeman wants a bribe, he will find out a way even if one has his original passport with him, but I think the phrase "honor among thieves," might apply here, at least to some extent. Meaning even a corrupt policeman has to rationalize his own behavior, and adopt certain rules, such as "it is okay to solicit a bribe from someone who is breaking the law, but not from someone who is not. " It undoubtedly is a rule that does not apply 100 percent of the time but I suspect more often than not a policeman in Jakarta is not going to go out of their way to shake someone down who has their passport with them and is otherwise complying with the law.

So, I nearly always carry my passport while in Indonesia. In Thailand I never do owing to my assessment the risk is much lower although I am a bit concerned about whether things might at some point get a bit more difficult under the military dictatorship.

Muzungufotsy
08-24-16, 09:09
To all the people who live there what does the law say? Is it enough to carry a copy of passport with me in case there is a police check or not?

I don't want to carry my original passport at night since I don't want to lose it.

Corrupted cops in any country always try to scare tourists so they can bribe them more quickly. It s a common tactic.

Ggekko2009
08-24-16, 14:25
To all the people who live there what does the law say? Is it enough to carry a copy of passport with me in case there is a police check or not?

I don't want to carry my original passport at night since I don't want to lose it.

Corrupted cops in any country always try to scare tourists so they can bribe them more quickly. It s a common tactic.If you are Caucasian, I think it may be safer to carry your passport, since you may be an easy target. I have yet to experience it since I am Asian and probably blend in better in the crowd. But never say never, knock on wood. Nonetheless, as the saying goes, a simple bribe will go a long away. I would assume Rp. 100 K will be more than enough for them if you are ever caught in a jam. After all, it's the endgame for all these corrupt people.

Traveler1234
08-24-16, 14:40
To all the people who live there what does the law say? Is it enough to carry a copy of passport with me in case there is a police check or not?The law is clear, visitors are required to have passport all the time. In practice, seldom enforced. I always make multi-copies of passport plus USA offers a $25 passport card, size of credit card which I carry as my regular ID when abroad. YMMV.

Member #2041
08-24-16, 16:24
The law is clear, visitors are required to have passport all the time. In practice, seldom enforced. I always make multi-copies of passport plus USA offers a $25 passport card, size of credit card which I carry as my regular ID when abroad. YMMV.The Passport card is $30 nowadays. I got mine last month.

Member #4698
08-24-16, 19:21
This is a quote from the US Passport Web site:

"The passport card is a credit-card size USA Passport that, just like a passport book, is proof of USA Citizenship and identity. It is more convenient and less expensive than a passport book, but can only be used to re-enter the United States at land border crossings and sea ports-of-entry from:

Canada.
Mexico.
The Caribbean.
Bermuda.

The passport card cannot be used for international air travel. ".

So I wonder what real value it would have in a place like Jakarta over a copy of my passport book and my Drivers License. I suppose some, but would it matter to a cop out to shake me down or one with an anti American grudge? And since I have never been hassled for not having a passport in my possession except in Colombia in the bad old days, I am not too worried about it now.

Traveler1234
08-24-16, 20:38
So I wonder what real value it would have in a place like Jakarta over a copy of my passport book and my Drivers License.I did not mean to imply it replaces the passport.

But it does state "passport" on the card and hey, with a few rupiah 'stucked to back' of card, can't hurt. I recall back in early 90's living in Jakarta and taking the kids to school one day. Driver was sick, cop pulled me over and I gave him the lunch money to avoid getting ticket. :D

YMMV.

LifeIsABeach
08-24-16, 21:07
I did not mean to imply it replaces the passport. But it does state "passport" on the card and hey, with a few rupiah 'stucked to back' of card, can't hurt. I recall back in early 90's living in Jakarta and taking the kids to school one day. Driver was sick, cop pulled me over and I gave him the lunch money to avoid getting ticket. :As mentioned by someone below, the passport card is only useful for the 3-4 countries mentioned and works wonders there where there are lines of people crossing and special fast lines for people with card. In other countries, you can carry it if you want as a replacement for your drivers licence but you do need your real passport or a copy if it works. I carry my drivers licence and copy of passport all the time with me.

LA Guy 5
08-24-16, 22:03
As mentioned by someone below, the passport card is only useful for the 3-4 countries mentioned and works wonders there where there are lines of people crossing and special fast lines for people with card. In other countries, you can carry it if you want as a replacement for your drivers licence but you do need your real passport or a copy if it works. I carry my drivers licence and copy of passport all the time with me.Interesting that a few here have mentioned the US passport card. In the incident I described earlier (where I had a copy of the relevant pages of my passport along with a USA -based drivers license), the friend I was traveling with had a passport card which he showed to the policeman. The policeman looked a bit puzzled by this and seemed to suggest it was not sufficient (but my memory on this is not perfect), but then focused on trying to get a bribe from me, not my friend. Frankly, the 100,000 rupiah I decided to pay the policeman also took into account there were two of us he could go after. What was unclear is whether if only my friend were in the Bluebird and then showed his passport card, the policeman would have let him go. In our case, it did serve to deflect the policeman's attention to me, but I would put it at 50/50 at best the passport card would have worked if only my friend were in the Bluebird.

LA Guy 5
08-24-16, 22:08
To all the people who live there what does the law say? Is it enough to carry a copy of passport with me in case there is a police check or not?

I don't want to carry my original passport at night since I don't want to lose it.

Corrupted cops in any country always try to scare tourists so they can bribe them more quickly. It s a common tactic.I may have mentioned this earlier, but I put my original passport in a traveler's wallet (or case) in my front pocket. The traveler's wallet has a clip that can be used to secure it to a belt loop while the passport itself is in my front pocket. I don't like that it takes up a pocket, but unless someone put a gun to my head and said "your passport or your life" the likelihood of losing it is rather slim.

FreeMonger
08-25-16, 07:54
I may have mentioned this earlier, but I put my original passport in a traveler's wallet (or case) in my front pocket. The traveler's wallet has a clip that can be used to secure it to a belt loop while the passport itself is in my front pocket. I don't like that it takes up a pocket, but unless someone put a gun to my head and said "your passport or your life" the likelihood of losing it is rather slim.But is it happening only with white people or with Asians also? I will be visiting next month and I'm Asian so asking someone please clarify.

Ggekko2009
08-25-16, 15:17
But is it happening only with white people or with Asians also? I will be visiting next month and I'm Asian so asking someone please clarify.I am pretty sure when there is razia (Police Checkpoint) on the streets at night, they would stop cars and ask people inside for their KTP if local or Passport if foreigner. I don't think it matters if you are Caucasian or Asian at that point. These cops are basically looking for opportunities to make some money. That is my understanding. One question though, does these checkpoints happen more frequently at South Jakarta? I was in Jakarta during March of last year, but I did not spend much time in South Jakarta.

Joel Goodsen
08-26-16, 02:03
One question though, does these checkpoints happen more frequently at South Jakarta? I was in Jakarta during March of last year, but I did not spend much time in South Jakarta.No, quite the opposite. Police checkpoints are a thing of North and West Jakarta. South Jakarta, rarely.

Ggekko2009
08-31-16, 19:54
I will be in Jakarta from Sept. 24 - Sept. 25, and then from Oct. 1 - Oct 5. My plan is to stay in South Jakarta this time, and check out the different venues around this area. My last visit to Jakarta had primarily been on the North and West side.

If any ISG'er is interested, we can meet-up, grab a beer, and share some stories. Send me a PM.

Offshore Swell
09-01-16, 18:46
For those of you who are time starved on a Sunday, Metro massage in Kelapa Gading is right next door to a denominational church, so as you are going about your business in the room upstairs with the girl. The happy clappers are praying for your soul, literally a meter away on the other side of a rather thin wall. Highly recomennded for those who want to sin and be forgiven all at the same time.

OS.

FreeMonger
09-05-16, 10:46
Will be in Jakarta from 19th to 23rd if any suggestions for good places to visit do PM me.

NoGermaphobe
09-05-16, 17:24
Am thinking about a quick run to Jakarta for Saturday.

The Hari Raya Idul Adha is on Monday. Based on previous reports, bars will close by early evening Sunday and then all day Monday. I hope to be in and out (literally) by early Sunday morning. But am curious if numbers in places like Classic, Travel and the Kota Indah places will be dramatically down on Saturday, or should it be OK?

CoaxK
09-06-16, 11:53
5 or 6 of us will be arriving evening of 14 September and leaving on afternoon of 17 September. Staying at Mulia Senayan.

Most likely will be frequenting Malioboro, Alexis, Blok M area, etc. Let me know if anyone else is in town and wants to hook up, we'll be having some serious fun.

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Gern
09-08-16, 13:29
For those of you who are time starved on a Sunday, Metro massage in Kelapa Gading is right next door to a denominational church, so as you are going about your business in the room upstairs with the girl. The happy clappers are praying for your soul, literally a meter away on the other side of a rather thin wall. Highly recomennded for those who want to sin and be forgiven all at the same time.

OS.I cannot wait to check that out!! Perhaps I can drop my tip in the offering plate?

Llantarnam
09-11-16, 12:32
I'm on holiday shortly passing through Bali before my flight home from Jakarta.

I've been to lots of mongering destinations before, but never Jakarta. Ideally I would like to stay in an area that has a choice of go go style bars within walking distance from the hotel, so that I can take a girl back for fun and games. Whereas other places like BKK and AC have streets full of such bars, in Jakarta they appear to be spread out across the city. Block M looks a bit isolated in the south, with the majority of topless / nude bars being in isolated locations across the north and west of the city.

I would like to avoid the need for taxi's to get to my destination and was hoping that somebody could suggest a hotel / area of town that would fit my plans.

Porker
09-11-16, 13:43
I would imagine cops would want to see one's visa stamp and are not just looking for official ID in their shakedown attempts.


This is a quote from the US Passport Web site:

"The passport card is a credit-card size USA Passport that, just like a passport book, is proof of USA Citizenship and identity. It is more convenient and less expensive than a passport book, but can only be used to re-enter the United States at land border crossings and sea ports-of-entry from:

Canada.
Mexico.
The Caribbean.
Bermuda.

The passport card cannot be used for international air travel. ".

So I wonder what real value it would have in a place like Jakarta over a copy of my passport book and my Drivers License. I suppose some, but would it matter to a cop out to shake me down or one with an anti American grudge? And since I have never been hassled for not having a passport in my possession except in Colombia in the bad old days, I am not too worried about it now.

Porker
09-11-16, 13:47
I'm on holiday shortly passing through Bali before my flight home from Jakarta.

I've been to lots of mongering destinations before, but never Jakarta. Ideally I would like to stay in an area that has a choice of go go style bars within walking distance from the hotel, so that I can take a girl back for fun and games. Whereas other places like BKK and AC have streets full of such bars, in Jakarta they appear to be spread out across the city. Block M looks a bit isolated in the south, with the majority of topless / nude bars being in isolated locations across the north and west of the city.

I would like to avoid the need for taxi's to get to my destination and was hoping that somebody could suggest a hotel / area of town that would fit my plans.F you are looking for "go go style bars", Jakarta will disappoint you -- the working girls there don't generally dance as part of their job description. Same with avoiding taxis to go back to your hotel.

Llantarnam
09-11-16, 18:19
F you are looking for "go go style bars", Jakarta will disappoint youWhen I had a rummage around the internet I found a list of the top ten striptease and sexy dancer shows (Tease club, Malioboro, King cross, Classic hotel, Club 36, the's place in block M). They all looked like go go style bars, with topless or nude style dancing. Have I misunderstood what is on offer?.

I'm just looking for something in walking distance from a reasonable hotel.

Koperen Klaas
09-12-16, 00:47
When I had a rummage around the internet I found a list of the top ten striptease and sexy dancer shows (Tease club, Malioboro, King cross, Classic hotel, Club 36, the's place in block M). They all looked like go go style bars, with topless or nude style dancing. Have I misunderstood what is on offer?.

I'm just looking for something in walking distance from a reasonable hotel.Jakarta is a big city. Even for relatively "short" distances you will need transport by taxi.

Regards,

Ko

Smoothy
09-12-16, 05:10
Hello,

I'm an avid reader of this forum and will be visiting Jakarta for the first time in September can someone please tell me the current ongoing prices for places like Alexis, classic and Malioboro for one session because I don't want to overpay.You won't overpay. The prices at those places are fixed and they don't charge anyone any differently from anyone else.

Smoothy
09-12-16, 05:12
My recent trip to Jakarta wasn't a very good experience, due to immigration. Just a warning to those who don't know this, carry your passport with you when you are outside your hotel. I got detained outside the Novotel by immigration who were not too pleasant. They insisted on seeing my passport which I didn't have on me and then they wouldn't let me get it from the room. So I was detained in the office fro 24 hours, until I got the hotel manager to bring my passport to me in the office. It really was a nightmare /.
Did you not offer them money? They are normally only looking for 100K rupiah, never more than 300k. 24 hours isn't worth saving that little bit of money.

There was a police blockade just over the bridge on rasuna said the other night where the Izzi pizza used to be. (near taman lawang) They don't seem to worry too much about those lady boys in that area prostituting themselves, but they do like to generate some cash checking for passports. I, of course, did not have my passport with me (there is no way I will carry my passport around town considering how drunk I get most times - i would lose it for sure). I paid the 100k (less than 8 bucks USD) and continued on my way in less than 5 minutes. It's so rare that I run into those police blockades, I don't even worry about them.

Smoothy
09-12-16, 05:23
Jakarta is a big city. Even for relatively "short" distances you will need transport by taxi.

Regards,

KoI take a taxi to cross the street in Jakarta sometimes. Haha.

LA Guy 5
09-12-16, 11:30
When I had a rummage around the internet I found a list of the top ten striptease and sexy dancer shows (Tease club, Malioboro, King cross, Classic hotel, Club 36, the's place in block M). They all looked like go go style bars, with topless or nude style dancing. Have I misunderstood what is on offer?.

I'm just looking for something in walking distance from a reasonable hotel.Malioboro Spa is about 400 meters from the Hotel Grand Mercure Harmoni. Only if one were grossly out of shape would it be difficult to walk from one to the other.

Member #4537
09-12-16, 15:18
Are you guys even sure those are immigration cops? Best way to tell is if there is an orange sedan parked nearby.

Since 2013 it's almost always been drug-related razias who are out to catch the suppliers.

Traveler1234
09-12-16, 19:25
Jakarta is a big city. Even for relatively "short" distances you will need transport by taxi.
Closest you'll find to some region of town that is 'walkable'.

http://www.jakarta100bars.com/search/label/Mangga%20Besar%2FLokasari

Smoothy
09-12-16, 21:54
Are you guys even sure those are immigration cops? Best way to tell is if there is an orange sedan parked nearby.

Since 2013 it's almost always been drug-related razias who are out to catch the suppliers.I've actually never seen an immigration cop in the streets. In my experience, it's always normal cops checking passports and asking for bribes in the streets. I haven't had an immigration cop ask me for money in over 10 years. It used to be a big problem at the airport, but not anymore.

Koperen Klaas
09-14-16, 22:50
I've actually never seen an immigration cop in the streets. In my experience, it's always normal cops checking passports and asking for bribes in the streets. I haven't had an immigration cop ask me for money in over 10 years. It used to be a big problem at the airport, but not anymore.Immigration at the airport has even become client-friendly. Last time I was in Indonesia I made a mistake when entering the country at Sukarno-Hatta. This was duly noticed when I checked in for departure and I was told to report to immigration. The officer on duty checked my passport, ticket and visa receipt and concluded that I had made an honest mistake. He then proceeded to put a blue (important color) stamp with the departure date in my passport and told me to proceed "langsung" to the gate. No problem, no bribe necessary. Maybe it was helpful too that I spoke Bahasa Indonesia with them.

Regards,

Ko

Koperen Klaas
09-17-16, 04:30
Immigration at the airport has even become client-friendly. Last time I was in Indonesia I made a mistake when entering the country at Sukarno-Hatta. This was duly noticed when I checked in for departure and I was told to report to immigration. The officer on duty checked my passport, ticket and visa receipt and concluded that I had made an honest mistake. He then proceeded to put a blue (important color) stamp with the departure date in my passport and told me to proceed "langsung" to the gate. No problem, no bribe necessary. Maybe it was helpful too that I spoke Bahasa Indonesia with them.

Regards,

KoThe Netherlands is one of the countries elevated to the level of visa-free entry again. Let's see how that works out when I visit again.

Regards,

Ko

LifeIsABeach
09-18-16, 05:17
The Netherlands is one of the countries elevated to the level of visa-free entry again. Let's see how that works out when I visit again. Regards, KoI think Auustralia is the only country since last year that has to have a visa. There is no love lost between the two countries and maybe because the Australians are loud also! Haha.

Pipe Layer99
09-18-16, 17:55
10 days condensed version of a first trip. Arrived from Thailand after over 2 months, so needed a day off to build up the energy. This was basically a trip to leave Thai and return to activate a second visa.

Here is a run down of the venues and fun to be had.

Stayed at the Mercure Hotel. Great location. Right on the main road and within 5-10 minutes of Malio / Maliboro, Classic, and Travel.

First day Malio and Malioboro. Good time, good looking girls, drinks downstairs and upstairs. 1/2 of the girls were shy to come during the presentation. When the mama went to get them, a lot stayed seated. Just FYI.

Met some cool Indo dude at the table next to me. He ended up buying me a pitcher of beer (even though I had a full beer). I asked him and the girl he was drinking with to help me drink it. Everyone happy. Didn't take a girl that night. Prices quoted at that time were 1. 2 m and 8 k (tier structure).

Day 2 - Classic. Lots of girls sitting on couches spread throughout the place. All shapes and sizes. You need to move around to get a good view of the girls because the place is big. I tried sitting at a table to have a bintang beer and enjoy the view first but mama kept bringing girls (fat, thin, etc.) Nothing that I really wanted, since I was looking for a cutie with some decent curves. Had to get up and move to the other sections. This time, I just stood there so I can move when needed. Nothing exciting tonight either, drank some beer and left. Planned to come back tomorrow fully charged. Prices quoted were 350 k for 1 girl or 525 k for 2 girls.

Day 3 - Classic. 1 beer, had mama bring the girls I wanted to see. After about 5 girls, I ended up choosing the one who was brought over first. LOL. Nesya. This one stayed with me and hung out while I finished my beer. Great attitude, great fun. Nice curves. 325 k (or $25 USD) (plus a small tip for her for the great first experience). She gave me her number afterwards. Nothing came of it. When I called her 2 days later, she didn't want to come to the hotel. Just wanted me to go see her at work.

Dinner later that night. Then a short walk to the hotel. Met 3 ladies while walking back. They were all cool. Only one was pretty in my book. We all talked and even took a few photos together. They were staying a hotel just 100 m from my hotel. I got the one lady's number and we agreed to meet tomorrow.

Day 4 - Called the regular lady and we met in my hotel lobby. We went up and talked. I had a few Jack's, she drank water or juice. Uh ooo. It was like being on a HS date. Kiss here and there. Touch here and there, etc. A very slow night. I was really thinking of just going to a club. But I stuck it out a little longer since she was genuinely a really nice lady. In the end, it all worked out. Very inexperienced in bed but tasted sweet as pie and very very tight.

Day 5 - Malio again. Great time downstairs. Drinking beer, flirting with the dancers, and the DJ. The DJ was hot. I was sitting at the bar. She came over during her break. I offered her a drink she declined. She was going upstairs someplace to eat. I wanted to join her, but she said I can't. LOL. I left.

Next stop. Bats - cover charge includes 1 drink. Lots of girls. The handful of pretty ones were occupied. No problem. Great band playing and a few other choices all over. Talked to a few girls but they all wanted 2 m (about $150 USD) and they weren't the hottest looking girls either. No can do. Especially when I am heading back to Thailand in 5 days. I offered 1 m to the only one I was willing to take. She declined. Later as the crowd thinned out I decided to leave. She flirted and was now ready to go for 1 m, but I was turned off. A little bit too hard core during the negotiation.

Day 6 - Woke up feeling good. Went down to ask for an in-room massage. Hoped to see who was available, but only saw 2 girls who were walking away as I talked to the lady at the Spa desk. One looked cute and I requested her. Had to point her out from the hallway. Long story short, good massage for about 250 or 300 k. Can't remember. Pushed for full-service. No deal. She wanted 1 m for a HJ. LOL. She said this was a nice hotel, blah blah blah. I got up to get 300 k and I put it on the night stand. Finally got the top off and some nice breasts for breakfast while she brought my soldier to a nice finish. Everyone was happy.

Later in the night went to Classic 2 - found a good one. 325 K ($25 usd). Two for the day so I'm all set right? So I thought.

Upstairs to Classic 5 to drink some beer and relax. This little cute girl came over to talk to me. Little. As in short. But she had some nice curves on her. Great attitude and full of spunk too. I told her I just wanted to drink and relax. She said ok and stayed there and talked. She was so short, probably just 5' 2" (158 cm). I asked her to turn around so I can check her out. She turned, I felt her nice butt, and man it was nice for a girl her size. Now she is pressed up against me and still hanging around. Dammit. What do I do? The girls at the other place wouldn't hang out if you weren't going to take them to the room. So I was surprised that this one stayed there to talk. Plus she was being really nice, playful, and sexy all at the same time. I told her I didn't have enough energy for her. Figured she would leave. Nope. I told her I have a big cock and she couldn't handle it. She still didn't leave. I asked her if she wanted to sit with me, sure. Asked if she wanted to drink first and go to the room after, yes! I took a half of a viagra right there in front of her. I finished that first beer. I called someone over and ordered another beer and asked if she wants one. She orders a guiness! OK she likes to drink. After the first beer together, I was already prepared for her because she was so sexy. Asked if she wants another beer, yes. OK round two. Then we cal ma a over to settle up and go to the room. She did not disappoint. A firecracker in the room. And yes, I did give her a nice tip. I know it's not necessary. But for less than $25 bucks, I had a great looking girl hanging out with me and wanting to make me happy. Heck, for this girl (with her great attitude), I would have given her a nice tip even if we didn't go the room. Just because she was so much fun talk to (and of course I was touching her to). But yes, she deserved a tip for 'everything'.

Went back the next day, couldn't find her. So I went to check out Blok M.

Day 7 - 10 to follow later (with pics tomorrow). Time to watch NFL. American Football.

ThomKatt
09-19-16, 13:51
Hey fellas,

This is a very long and very overdue post. This was back in February, so I don't know how applicable it is to this day, but it's a good reference point from the perspective as a newbie for newbies. So I just spent a few days doing touristy stuff. I also got a fantastic deal at the Mecure Kota for one of their best suites. It was my last night in Jakarta, so I decided to hit up all the usual spots that I read from these forums. I went over to Block M to start out my night. First stop D's Place and it wasn't very good. The place was pretty empty. There was only handful of older gentlemen there, and 1 girl (not very attractive) dancing on stage. It's a pretty relaxed and chill environment. I had a drink anyways to see if it picks up, it did not. The bartender wasn't bad looking though.

I head over to My Bar. DEAD. EMPTY. I literally walked in and did a 180 and left. I think I might have woken up the bartender haha.

Go into Top Gun. Much better overall than the previous two. There were a lot of girls here, but I can't really say any of them were good looking. The live music helped the place be bearable. Definitely more girls than men. Almost every girl in the place made eye contact with me when I came in, and walked around. Nobody was even remotely doable here though. Stayed for 1 drink hoping for a stunner to walk in. Nope.

Taxi over to BATS. Ok, definitely a different place and vibe than the previous 3 places. It's pretty fancy and upscale (for Jakarta) and the girls were decent enough for my minimum standards. The problem here? Two: Waaay more guys than girls, and it's ridiculously expensive. It cost 140 k to get in, but when I ordered the same drink, it cost 200 k. WTF? Why don't I just buy another entrance ticket? A beer was 110 k. I saw a handful of girls I wanted to take home with me, but they came with guys. And anytime a good looking girl walked in, they get snatched up before I even get a double take. I've been flirting with a girl most of the night, never conversing with her, but checking her out and she seemed decent enough. The night was getting late, and I was ready to go back. Nothing good came in and the place was starting to empty out. I went up to that girl from earlier, her name is Nikki, and just started to talk to her. She's half malay and half Indonesian, but born and raised in Indonesia. She had a pretty overall face, and her top half looked decent, with large hips and has 1 kid. Anyways, she agreed to come back with me and we negotiated at the hotel. I get DFK, BBBJ, CIM, and stay the night for $100 usd. She brought me to go get street food near the hotel. Came back and we started the business. Her BBBJ was ok, she struggled to deep throat it since she didn't seem like she wanted to. When I went to take off her pants, her hips were huge, much larger than her tight jeans let on (this would pose a problem the next morning). I go into mish and pound her silly while dfking until I unleash a tidal wave of my man juice inside of her. We then go straight to sleep.

I woke up the next morning to her all dressed up and ready to leave. WTF? That's not the point of staying the night. I explained to her I wanted to bang one more time. So she gets undressed and this time, the daylight revealed everything about her body. This woman must have literally gave birth yesterday. Her hips were massive, her belly full of pregnancy fat, stretch marks all over the place. She had the worst body I've ever been with. She seemed pretty embarrassed by it, probably from the reaction on my face. I tried to ignore it but I couldn't. I felt duped. She gives me a BBBJ just like last night, but I didn't allow that. I gave her a little help by skull f**king her. I didn't want to look at her body, so we started in doggy, but she was too inflexible to spread her legs to get lower (I'm pretty tall and she's pretty short) which caused her to also be too tight to enter. So we got into mish on the edge of the bed and I banged her this time with no DFK because of morning breath. When I was about to nut, I wanted to CIM, but she would pull it out and just jerk it on her face. I was disappointed but wasn't going to argue since I was pretty tired and it didn't really matter at this point. I unleashed a goopy mess onto her mouth and chin. She cleaned up, I gave her cab fair, and she was off and I left a little later to catch a flight.

Overall, my impression of Jakarta was a little disappointing. The best looking girls here can't even hold a candle to the worst looking women in many other places. It really shows, especially how stiff the competition was to even pick up an average looking girl. This is definitely a sellers' market. Probably won't be back.

Pipe Layer99
09-19-16, 16:24
Day 7 - Blok M. This was a Friday night. Checked out Top Gun first. OK. Good vibe. Lots of people, lots of ladies, and an ok band playing. Had drinks here and met some cool dudes who were partying. Must have been regulars. Talked to a few of the girls to see what they are about (prices, time, etc). One girl was cut real quick. Started with good conversation. Next, I told her I was thinking of taking her to my hotel tonight. She said ok. We talked more as I finished my drink. Decided to get another drink for me and asked her if she would like a drink. We were just a few feet from the bar. And before we even arrived at the bar, she has the nerve to flirt with another guy. I cut her loose. If she can't even accompany me to the bar to get a free drink, there is a problem. Told her to go talk to someone else. She has a guy ready to take her and she is still looking. We to another area on the hunt. Found a small group of ladies together. Said Hello, and smiled. Two smiled but one didn't. Yes, the best looking of the bunch. Tried to have conversation with her but she was acting stuck up. Finished up my Jack and walked across the street to D's place.

Good vibe in D's, a good number of ladies available. Talked with a few girls. All receptive. The one I was really considering (Ms. E) for the night was decent enough, but I was undecided since I popped 3 x yesterday. She left and went to Top Gun but gave me her number in case I wanted to call her back. Great idea (her idea not mine). I ended with drinking with 2 other random American guys, both there hanging out solo like me. It was a good time. Didn't see anything I really liked so I called E to come back. She didn't answer but came back soon after the call. We talked at the bar. Negotiated for 350 plus taxi money to go home. I know part of the regulars in Jakarta will think that's too low, others will think it's a great deal (and it was). Here's my take based on my notes prior to my trip. At the's 300 k for a BJ, 400 k for ST, and 700 K for LT. However, when I was talking to the regulars at the two bars, they told me they give the girls 300-400 to come back to their apt for the night. So I went with their price. The girl E and I talked about price and had another beer together. I wasn't pushing my price, I just told her that was what I could give her. 350, plus 50 for taxi. She thought about it and accepted. (FYI that's just about the same rate I was paying in Thailand). We took a taxi to the hotel and all was good. Good time in bed. Sleep. Morning sex. Donated 400 for her. Side note. I called the front desk to make sure she could get a blue bird outside. She didn't want it. Why? She was going to take a bus home (keep the extra for herself). I just laughed. I thanked her, and gave her a kiss goodbye.

Day 8 (morning sex with Ms E) - then tourist stuff.

Day 9 - tourist stuff. Ms. E called and wanted to come see me later. I told her I was tied up doing sight seeing. Even at 350 k she was willing to come back.

Day 10, slept in and decided to check out Travel at night. It was ok. Not as good as Classic 2 or 5. There were some pretty ones sitting at various tables with customers, shit. They looked good too. Since it was my last night, I only talked to 2 girls and picked the second one to have some fun. Nothing special, just a quick blow and go.

Overall a decent trip. I wanted to check out CJ's and Alexis but didn't make it to them. Was having too much fun at Classic.

Member #4698
09-19-16, 17:59
My Bar. Top Gun. BATS.
Overall, my impression of Jakarta was a little disappointing. The best looking girls here can't even hold a candle to the worst looking women in many other places. It really shows, especially how stiff the competition was to even pick up an average looking girl. This is definitely a sellers' market. Probably won't be back.ThomKatt, I am sorry to hear about your trip, but if that's all I ever did in Jakarta (My Bar, Top Gun, & Bats), I too would probably not want to return. You should have read the forum a little more carefully. Here is what you missed: 1. Malioboro & Malio Club - Top notch Indonesian girls with great attitudes and sexual desires. My favorite bordello in Asia. 2. Alexis Hotel - Quite a large sampling of top quality sexy young Indosesian girls as well as various imports from Vietnam, Thailand, China and Soviet Republics (ugh). Quality abounds. 3. Kings Cross - Sexy cute girls at a more moderate price, 4. Maribaya Massage at Hotel Melawai - I can't wait to go for the 1st time. 5. Classic Hotel - Tons of Indonesian girls at bargain prices. Just reviewed by Pipe Layer. Search for a diamond and you will be rewarded. 6. CJ's- - A far superior 5 star hotel FL pick up bar. One of the best in Asia and far better than BATS. CJ's has lots and lots of pros, semi pros and amateur Indonesian girls to choose from. 7. the Blok M bars which can be fun but not until after 11 pm at the very least.

So after 3 trips in as many years I find I really like Jakarta or rather I really like Indonesian girls. I will be heading back there as part of my next 9 week Asian trip for a 4th round in a few months. I still haven't been to all the places on my to do list. The Jakarta girls I have gotten to know are all extremely good looking and luscious. IMHO they are at least as attractive facially and their bodies tend to be more NATURALLY voluptuous than the BKK girls I know and I know quite a large number of Thai girls, plus the Jakarta girls seem to be a little more sexually responsive and amorous. BKK nightlife is more centralized and it is more user friendly to get around in than Jakarta where taxis are required to go just about anywhere, but girl for girl, Jakarta ranks very high in my opinion. You just have to go to the right places at the right times.

ThomKatt
09-19-16, 18:08
ThomKatt, I am sorry to hear about your trip, but if that's all I ever did in Jakarta (My Bar, Top Gun, & Bats), I too would probably not want to return. You should have read the forum a little more carefully. Here is what you missed: 1. Malioboro & Malio Club - Top notch Indonesian girls with great attitudes and sexual desires. My favorite bordello in Asia. 2. Alexis Hotel - Quite a large sampling of top quality sexy young Indosesian girls as well as various imports from Vietnam, Thailand, China and Soviet Republics (ugh). Quality abounds. 3. Kings Cross - Sexy cute girls at a more moderate price, 4. Maribaya Massage at Hotel Melawai - I can't wait to go for the 1st time. 5. Classic Hotel - Tons of Indonesian girls at bargain prices. Just reviewed by Pipe Layer a few posts down. Search for a diamond and you will be rewarded. 6. CJ's- - A far superior 5 star hotel FL pick up bar. One of the best in Asia and far better than BATS. CJ's has lots and lots of pros, semi pros and amateur Indonesian girls to choose from. 7. the Blok M bars which can be fun but not until after 11 pm at the very least.

So after 3 trips in as many years I find I really like Jakarta or rather I really like Indonesian girls. I will be heading back there as part of my next 9 week Asian trip for a 4th round in a few months. I still haven't been to all the places on my to do list. The Jakarta girls I have gotten to know are all extremely good looking and luscious. IMHO they are at least as attractive as the BKK girls I know and I know quite a large number of Thai girls and a little more sexually responsive. BKK nightlife is more centralized and it is more user friendly to get around in than Jakarta where taxis are required to go just about anywhere, but girl for girl, Jakarta ranks very high in my opinion. You just have to go to the right places and the right times.That's the thing. I'm limited in time. I want to try out other cities and countries. I'm still very young, so once I've gotten my fill, then I can start considering to go back to a few places. But when I go to a place for the first time, I do the top or most mentioned places. All the places you've listed were on my list of places to go, it's really hit or miss as a newbie. Someone's golden experience might be another's trash. Personally, I'm not really into Indonesian girls, so it'll be a difficult time to convince me to return to give it another try. To each their own right?

Member #4698
09-19-16, 18:29
That's the thing. I'm limited in time. I want to try out other cities and countries. I'm still very young, so once I've gotten my fill, then I can start considering to go back to a few places. But when I go to a place for the first time, I do the top or most mentioned places. All the places you've listed were on my list of places to go, it's really hit or miss as a newbie. Someone's golden experience might be another's trash. Personally, I'm not really into Indonesian girls, so it'll be a difficult time to convince me to return to give it another try. To each their own right?Absolutely. Follow you bliss wherever it takes you. I wouldn't dream of trying to convince you to go somewhere you have already been and wasn't that keen on. All I was trying to point out was that your sampling of Jakarta nightlife was not the best or most representative and If you had picked three other places on my list, for example, your opinion of Jakarta and Jakarta girls might be very different.

My favorite town is still BKK for a variety of reasons and I like to spend 4 weeks per trip there, but for me, 2 weeks in Jakarta followed with 2 weeks in Manila form a perfect balance and variety of girls. Some guys wouldn't want to spend a night in Manila. I like the town. Some guys never want to leave Pattaya or AC. I find Pattaya and AC kind of boring especially in comparison to BKK and Jakarta. All of this is fine. Everybody should do what they like. Similarly everybody has different tastes in girls. I like natural, cute, sexy. Other guys like large breasts or pronounced butts. I like GFE while some other guys like PSE. I am not particular about skin color or tone while other guys prefer light skin. Good thing there is plenty of variety for everybody.

ChuckPup
09-20-16, 00:56
I think Auustralia is the only country since last year that has to have a visa. There is no love lost between the two countries and maybe because the Australians are loud also! Haha.Actually Australians no longer have to pay for a visa either.

Jvosta
09-20-16, 04:26
Hi everyone,

I'm new on the forum and I've been in Jakarta for a month now.

I'd just like some general advice on places and prices.

So far, my main places for 'getting off' are massage places like Delta Spa or Myplace (tip 100-200 k) for HJ. Getting bored of it now.

Does anyone recommend Alexis? And what is the general price structure for this place? I heard there is an entrance fee, does this include the bar?

I've also been to Sense KTV in manga dua, the chinese girls are amazingly hot but don't speak English! It seems like paying 2 m just for them to sit with you and sing! I'm not sure if they are prostitutes or not.

I'll have a look through the forum, but any more advice would be appreciated.

Cheers.

Traveler1234
09-20-16, 14:46
Overall a decent trip. I wanted to check out CJ's and Alexis but didn't make it to them. Was having too much fun at Classic.Congrats on sharing your experiences. Jakarta is a great place to have fun -- just need a little patience and perseverance.

ThomKatt
09-20-16, 16:58
Absolutely. Follow you bliss wherever it takes you. I wouldn't dream of trying to convince you to go somewhere you have already been and wasn't that keen on. All I was trying to point out was that your sampling of Jakarta nightlife was not the best or most representative and If you had picked three other places on my list, for example, your opinion of Jakarta and Jakarta girls might be very different.

My favorite town is still BKK for a variety of reasons and I like to spend 4 weeks per trip there, but for me, 2 weeks in Jakarta followed with 2 weeks in Manila form a perfect balance and variety of girls. Some guys wouldn't want to spend a night in Manila. I like the town. Some guys never want to leave Pattaya or AC. I find Pattaya and AC kind of boring especially in comparison to BKK and Jakarta. All of this is fine. Everybody should do what they like. Similarly everybody has different tastes in girls. I like natural, cute, sexy. Other guys like large breasts or pronounced butts. I like GFE while some other guys like PSE. I am not particular about skin color or tone while other guys prefer light skin. Good thing there is plenty of variety for everybody.Yup, definitely agree. If I remember correctly, you and I were also on the same page about AC when there was a heated discussion going on there as well. I love manila, didn't like AC too much. Love bkk and pattaya. Not keen on Jakarta. Mixed on phnom penh. Hated Saigon.

I've had so many arguments with people over each city, and everyone has their reasons for why they like a place or hated a place. Some can be chalked up to bad luck, and others can be because you were in the right place at the right time. Maybe my tastes may change and I can go back and appreciate the places I've missed out on.

Crocodilexp
09-21-16, 04:25
That's the thing. I'm limited in time. I want to try out other cities and countries. If you're limited in time, it's much more efficient to try a wide range of venues (especially in a city with diverse venues like Jakarta), rather than dabble in 3 subpar fading venues (the area around Top Gun is dead and has surely seen better days), and move on to the next country.

PrinceMak
09-21-16, 13:11
Hi,

Will be travelling to Jakarta (maiden visit) from the 29th Sept. To the 2nd of October. 3 nights. With a group of 3 friends. I have RTFF about a years posts and am still confused about day time action. By day time I mean from as early as 11 am. I believe royal mas and Berlian might open by that time. What time does classic, Malioboro, Alexis, kings cross start functioning. Can the forum members suggest any other places where I can have a quality time during the day. I will be staying at grand Mercure Jakarta harmoni. Thanks in advance.

Is the infamous helicopter treatment still provided at the 5th floor of Alexis or has it been converted into a karaoke?

Turgid
09-21-16, 15:02
Hey fellas,......so we started in doggy, but she was too inflexible to spread her legs to get lower (I'm pretty tall and she's pretty short)... .I'm a little confused by this, if you are taller than her why would you want her to spread her legs to get lower in doggy, wouldn't you want her to put her legs closer together to get higher?

ThomKatt
09-21-16, 17:54
If you're limited in time, it's much more efficient to try a wide range of venues (especially in a city with diverse venues like Jakarta), rather than dabble in 3 subpar fading venues (the area around Top Gun is dead and has surely seen better days), and move on to the next country.As mentioned in my post, I want to check out the most mentioned or top sites of each city / country, even if they are old, fading, or getting bad. It's more of a tourist destination than a mongering one for me. I would never monger in soi cowboy or patpong in BKK, but would go there just because it used to be great and held a reputation for a mongering destination for the city.

I felt Block M with BATS was pretty diverse. But then again, I don't have time, nor the desire to check out everything and everywhere that is mentioned. Everyone has different tastes.

ThomKatt
09-21-16, 17:56
I'm a little confused by this, if you are taller than her why would you want her to spread her legs to get lower in doggy, wouldn't you want her to put her legs closer together to get higher?This is a pretty funny observation. I think I should have been more detailed. In the next sentence, we were in mish on the edge of the bed, which means that I was already standing on the floor to begin with for the doggy position. I'm too tall to get into a regular doggy, both our knees on the bed, instead I have to stand on the floor and her knees on the bed, so now I'm much lower and she has to lower herself to reach me. If I were on the bed with her, she would have to close her legs and and probably have to do the standing dog (yoga) position to meet me.

Sock111
09-22-16, 03:04
Hi,

Will be travelling to Jakarta (maiden visit) from the 29th Sept. To the 2nd of October. 3 nights. With a group of 3 friends. I have RTFF about a years posts and am still confused about day time action. By day time I mean from as early as 11 am. I believe royal mas and Berlian might open by that time. What time does classic, Malioboro, Alexis, kings cross start functioning. Can the forum members suggest any other places where I can have a quality time during the day. I will be staying at grand Mercure Jakarta harmoni. Thanks in advance.

Is the infamous helicopter treatment still provided at the 5th floor of Alexis or has it been converted into a karaoke?I don't think you are going to find anything at 11:00 am.

Alexis has girls starting as early as 1:00 pm.

Classic Bunker gets going around 3:00 pm. Some girls arrive a bit earlier, but the full selection won't start until 4:00 pm.

I'll actually be arriving in Jakarta Sept 28th and staying for about 4 days. Send me a PM if you'd like to tag along as I hit up all the well known spots.

Smoothy
09-22-16, 04:52
Hi,

Will be travelling to Jakarta (maiden visit) from the 29th Sept. To the 2nd of October. 3 nights. With a group of 3 friends. I have RTFF about a years posts and am still confused about day time action. By day time I mean from as early as 11 am. I believe royal mas and Berlian might open by that time. What time does classic, Malioboro, Alexis, kings cross start functioning. Can the forum members suggest any other places where I can have a quality time during the day. I will be staying at grand Mercure Jakarta harmoni. Thanks in advance.

Is the infamous helicopter treatment still provided at the 5th floor of Alexis or has it been converted into a karaoke?The only place I know of that starts as early as 11 am is Hotel Melawai Maribaya 6th floor massage. That starts at 10 am. But you are staying far from there if you are staying at the Mercure harmoni.

I wouldn't go to any of the north Jakarta places until around 3 pm (perhaps 2 depending on the venue), and even then they will be pretty dead. By 5 pm most of the girls will have arrived and have their makeup on.

Alexis is the same as it ever was.

Jakarta is not a place to have fun during the day. For day action, the best bet is probably hooking up with a girl you meet online or with a phone app and have her come to your room.

Turgid
09-22-16, 14:03
This is a pretty funny observation. I think I should have been more detailed. In the next sentence, we were in mish on the edge of the bed, which means that I was already standing on the floor to begin with for the doggy position. I'm too tall to get into a regular doggy, both our knees on the bed, instead I have to stand on the floor and her knees on the bed, so now I'm much lower and she has to lower herself to reach me. If I were on the bed with her, she would have to close her legs and and probably have to do the standing dog (yoga) position to meet me.That does clarify it. My conclusion is that it was a pretty tall bed or I am taller than you as standing at the edge of a normal sized bed I still have to let the girl put her legs closer together otherwise I have to stoop which reduces the kinetic energy of my thrusts. Pretty serious stuff.

ThomKatt
09-22-16, 15:12
That does clarify it. My conclusion is that it was a pretty tall bed or I am taller than you as standing at the edge of a normal sized bed I still have to let the girl put her legs closer together otherwise I have to stoop which reduces the kinetic energy of my thrusts. Pretty serious stuff.Hahah I'm 6 feet or 183 cm (so tall for Asia). The bed was pretty high up, it was an expensive room, and for some reason, the more expensive the room, the higher off the floor it is. Yeah, when it comes to kinetic energy of my thrusts, the most powerful is her legs on my shoulders and me in a fully extended pushup position. I drill so hard, you'd think I was looking for oil!!

Smoothy
09-23-16, 05:20
Hi everyone,

I'm new on the forum and I've been in Jakarta for a month now.

I'd just like some general advice on places and prices.

So far, my main places for 'getting off' are massage places like Delta Spa or Myplace (tip 100-200 k) for HJ. Getting bored of it now.

Does anyone recommend Alexis? And what is the general price structure for this place? I heard there is an entrance fee, does this include the bar?

I've also been to Sense KTV in manga dua, the chinese girls are amazingly hot but don't speak English! It seems like paying 2 m just for them to sit with you and sing! I'm not sure if they are prostitutes or not.

I'll have a look through the forum, but any more advice would be appreciated.

Cheers.Delta and Myplace, are you going to Grand Wijaya center for that? Or are you going to the Delta near Mangga Dua (the worst Delta Spa in Indonesia). If you went to a KTV, I am guessing you are Asian and are only interested in karaoke or massage places. Which area of town are you in?

Mighty Spearsman
09-23-16, 14:49
Hi,

Will be travelling to Jakarta (maiden visit) from the 29th Sept. To the 2nd of October. 3 nights. With a group of 3 friends. I have RTFF about a years posts and am still confused about day time action. By day time I mean from as early as 11 am. I believe royal mas and Berlian might open by that time. What time does classic, Malioboro, Alexis, kings cross start functioning. Can the forum members suggest any other places where I can have a quality time during the day. I will be staying at grand Mercure Jakarta harmoni. Thanks in advance.

Is the infamous helicopter treatment still provided at the 5th floor of Alexis or has it been converted into a karaoke?Generally speaking, Smoothy is correct, Jakarta is not a great place for late-morning / lunchtime choices.

Having said that, I've had sessions as early as 12 Noon - 12:30 pm at Malioboro and Kartika, and at 1 pm at Royal Mas and Berlian, but your choices will be limited and several of the ladies may be older than what you're looking for.

And as Smoothy pointed out, Hotel Melawai Maribaya 6th floor massage is open as early as 11 am, they actually have two distinct shifts, daytime and evening time (with shift change around 5 pm). Kartika also appears to have two shifts, daytime and late-afternoon / evening.

There's also a really old massage place on the side street Jalan Sekolah Lio (just north of the Hotel Mercure, turn right and it's on the left, one block down) that has a bunch of girls in a fishbowl at lunchtime, the name escapes me (I haven't been there in years), not sure if it's still open.

Smoothy
09-23-16, 15:13
I haven't tried Kartika in a while, but my last soapy sandwich there was awesome! I always forget about the place, but will have to give it a shot. And if I do, it will definitely be with 2 girls at the same time. The sandwich is what makes that place rock. Unfortunately, it's like maribaya and rarely has any cute girls.

On a side note, I hear that Medika has been totally renovated and is quite nice now. Has anyone been? I haven't been there in over 15 years, but I would be curious to see what it's like now. It always had hot young girls, it was just a crap facility. But if they renovated, it could be a good place to go. I doubt it would be for day action, but it might be interesting at night.

It's near Taman Anggrek
Medika
Jalan Daan Mogot No. 33, Grogol Petamburan, Jakarta Barat, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta 11470

Abrosc30
09-25-16, 17:42
Hi everyone,

I have a couple question.

Heard a lot about Maribaya, does this place have classes / ranks with the women? Or every girls priced 600 k?

Also saw pictures they gave BBBJ, are the girls guaranteed they doesn't have disease?

Cheers.

Koperen Klaas
09-25-16, 19:03
Hi everyone,

I have a couple question.

Heard a lot about Maribaya, does this place have classes / ranks with the women? Or every girls priced 600 k?

Also saw pictures they gave BBBJ, are the girls guaranteed they doesn't have disease?

Cheers.Maribaya is a classless society. You pick one or more girls you like.

If you're of a nervous disposition, ask for covered BJ.

Regards,

Ko.

Jvosta
09-26-16, 04:33
Delta and Myplace, are you going to Grand Wijaya center for that? Or are you going to the Delta near Mangga Dua (the worst Delta Spa in Indonesia). If you went to a KTV, I am guessing you are Asian and are only interested in karaoke or massage places. Which area of town are you in?Thanks for your reply.

I've only been to delta and myplace near mangga dua. Damn I did not realize that they are the worst in town. Why is that BTW? You mean other spas like in grand wijaya you can actually choose which girl you want?

I'm getting bored of KTV and massage, but the girls in sense are really hot but I'm not sure if they are up for sex or just 'drinking companions'.

Think I will visit Alexis soon. I'm staying in north Jakarta.

Crocodilexp
09-26-16, 04:40
Also saw pictures they gave BBBJ, are the girls guaranteed they doesn't have disease?
If anybody, anywhere, guarantees to you that a working girl does not have an STD, they're lying to you. Unless you take them to a comprehensive medical exam first and then lock them up in quarantine for 2 weeks under strict supervision, it's impossible to guarantee that.

It's all about managing risks, better read up on which activities carry what degree of risk and how to protect yourself.

Jvosta
09-26-16, 04:52
If anybody, anywhere, guarantees to you that a working girl does not have an STD, they're lying to you. Unless you take them to a comprehensive medical exam first and then lock them up in quarantine for 2 weeks under strict supervision, it's impossible to guarantee that.

It's all about managing risks, better read up on which activities carry what degree of risk and how to protect yourself.BBBJ OK, but saw pics of penetration without condom on here. Crazy. The weeks and months of worrying about STD after is not worth the 4 minutes of pleasure IMO.

Porker
09-26-16, 05:32
The only place I know of that starts as early as 11 am is Hotel Melawai Maribaya 6th floor massage. That starts at 10 am. But you are staying far from there if you are staying at the Mercure harmoni.

I wouldn't go to any of the north Jakarta places until around 3 pm (perhaps 2 depending on the venue), and even then they will be pretty dead. By 5 pm most of the girls will have arrived and have their makeup on.

Alexis is the same as it ever was.

Jakarta is not a place to have fun during the day. For day action, the best bet is probably hooking up with a girl you meet online or with a phone app and have her come to your room.Bintang Mawar and those alley bars maybe 2 PM?

Always09
09-26-16, 07:27
Was happy to be in Jakarta again. Enjoyed plenty of S* clubs. As always visited Malio and Alexis. Picked up from BATS.

Had some fun in CJ's. Classic (all the three clubs.

Smoothy
09-27-16, 06:20
Was happy to be in Jakarta again. Enjoyed plenty of S* clubs. As always visited Malio and Alexis. Picked up from BATS.

Had some fun in CJ's. Classic (all the three clubs.I hadn't been to BATS in a while. I went there Sunday night. What a mistake. There wasn't even one girl there who I would have taken even for free. Then I went to CJs and it wasn't much better. Obviously Sunday night is not a good night for those 2 places.

Llantarnam
09-27-16, 21:04
Malioboro Spa is about 400 meters from the Hotel Grand Mercure Harmoni. Only if one were grossly out of shape would it be difficult to walk from one to the other.I've booked a couple of nights at the Mecure. I'll let you know what Mali was like after my trip.

Member #4537
09-28-16, 07:17
I hadn't been to BATS in a while. I went there Sunday night. What a mistake. There wasn't even one girl there who I would have taken even for free. Then I went to CJs and it wasn't much better. Obviously Sunday night is not a good night for those 2 places.Last time I was in BATS I thought the same too. It wasn't even a Sunday night, mind you. Old grannies and younger hardened hookers that are way past their due date. I can't believe they think they can get 2 million when you have cute 18 year old chics with tight bodies on the other side of town going for 330 k a shot.

Kodja
09-28-16, 14:02
I haven't tried Kartika in a while, but my last soapy sandwich there was awesome! I always forget about the place, but will have to give it a shot. And if I do, it will definitely be with 2 girls at the same time. The sandwich is what makes that place rock. Unfortunately, it's like maribaya and rarely has any cute girls...I haven't been in Jakarta for a few years now but heading back soon. I used to frequent Kartika often. Really enjoyed it. They used to open 11:00 AM until 11:00 PM is that still the case? Is it still about 300 K + tip per session?

Member #4698
09-28-16, 16:52
I concur. Bats is not good anymore. I did not see 1 sexy girl worth shagging the last time I went there in April. I stayed long enough to finish my mandatory drink and check out the scenery, then I took a taxi to CJ's. I doubt I will ever return to Bats unless I hear that the lookers have returned in large numbers. Currently there is more better action in the Des Moines, Iowa Holiday Inn Bar off I80. LOL. But I am not joking.

Meanwhile, attractive FL's still visit CJ's although in lesser numbers than in previous years. I picked up 2 very talented and sexy FL's on two separate nights the last time I went there. But on comparing CJ's 2016 FL line up to CJ's 2015 FL line up; I think CJ's 2015 was much better. In fact in 2015 I loved CJ's and thought it was absolutely amazing for pickups. So I hope this is not downward trend instead of a just a few quieter nights when I happened to stop by on a Wednesday and Friday night respectively. In any case, I will definitely go back and try my luck at CJ's on my next trip because I still consider this bar good for quality pickups.

Sock111
09-28-16, 21:57
Landed in Jakarta and my first stop was Malioboro club not to be confused with Malioboro Spa in the same building. I just love Indonesian women. They have the perfect body type. Big round breasts with just the right size perfectly circular nipples. Curves in the right spots. They have curvy latin body with asian faces. Overpaid for a blowjob from hot dancer and jizzed in her mouth. It was just like I remembered the first time I was in Jakarta.

Here are some observations.

Girls still dance nude. Maybe there was a stoppage for a time but tonight, they were fully nude with kitty cats out in full force.

Girl drinks are 65 k now. That is up from 50 k this year. To make it worse, most girls want 30 drinks for a BJ when it used to be 20. With the declining value of the dollar against the ruby, it isn't as cheap as it used to be.

Malioboro Spa.

I was chatting with a mama san and she told me local girls are 900 k or 1. 1 mil depending on looks, includes the room. This is up from 850 k last year. Opens at 3:00 pm. Alot of good info.

Sock111
09-28-16, 22:01
If you want street girls, there are usually some standing in front of the Grand Mercure on the street opposite Malioboro. I had a chit chat with the motobike pimp and he said girls were 500 k short time and 1. 5 mil long time. Selection is ok. I saw 1 good looking one, 4 avg ones and 2 fattys.

Smoothy
09-29-16, 10:58
Currently there is more better action in the Des Moines, Iowa Holiday Inn Bar off I80. LOL. But I am not joking.

But on comparing CJ's 2016 FL line up to CJ's 2015 FL line up; I think CJ's 2015 was much better. I will have to check out that holiday inn the next time I'm in Des Moines.

CJs can have some real hotties at times. I met 2 true stunners there last month on a Saturday night. I had a tough time choosing between the 2. But last Sunday, the best looking available girl was a girl I knew from Top Gun 10 years ago. I'd rate her about a 5 or 6/10. I was seated right across from her. She came up and said Hi because she remembered me from Top Gun and she wanted a phone number of a girl I used to take often back then, but she didn't discuss price. I had no interest in her and she could tell. She was approached by 3 different guys while I was standing near and I could hear them negotiating price. She wanted 2 million. I find that absurd. All 3 guys walked away from that price, but one came back later and accepted it. The pickings were slim.

Smoothy
09-29-16, 11:07
If you want street girls, there are usually some standing in front of the Grand Mercure on the street opposite Malioboro. I had a chit chat with the motobike pimp and he said girls were 500 k short time and 1. 5 mil long time. Selection is ok. I saw 1 good looking one, 4 avg ones and 2 fattys.I have tried these girls before. They usually aren't much fun and are never too bright. But if you are just looking for sex, that works.

Koperen Klaas
09-29-16, 23:16
I haven't tried Kartika in a while, but my last soapy sandwich there was awesome! I always forget about the place, but will have to give it a shot. And if I do, it will definitely be with 2 girls at the same time. The sandwich is what makes that place rock. Unfortunately, it's like maribaya and rarely has any cute girls.Last summer I tried the sandwich and I completely agree. I'm not quite sure how the girls do it but it was "pretty agreeable". I will repeat next time I'm in Jakarta.

Regards,

Ko.

Fast Eddie 48
09-29-16, 23:21
If you want street girls, there are usually some standing in front of the Grand Mercure on the street opposite Malioboro. I had a chit chat with the motobike pimp and he said girls were 500 k short time and 1. 5 mil long time. Selection is ok. I saw 1 good looking one, 4 avg ones and 2 fattys.To Sock111.

There are also St girl across from Lokasari plaza in front of Oasis spa some are hot they are very young freelance 700 k ST and 1. 2 mil all night, they are on motor bike didn't see any pimp with them there are also girl in street cloth working inside Oasis spa no massage just FS.

Fast Eddie 48.

Smoothy
09-30-16, 09:03
I concur. Bats is not good anymore. I did not see 1 sexy girl worth shagging the last time I went there in April. I stayed long enough to finish my mandatory drink and check out the scenery, then I took a taxi to CJ's. I doubt I will ever return to Bats unless I hear that the lookers have returned in large numbers. I just posted the other day that Bats was horrible last Sunday (and it was). The only girls there were old scrags who I wouldn't go with even for free. However, I went again the other night and it was absolutely great. It was not very busy, but there was some serious talent there, and very little male competition. There were quite a few available girls there who I would rate at least an 8/10 (its rare to ever find better than that anywhere in Indonesia). The problem was the hotties were asking for 2 million short time or 2. 5 for all night. I don't do long time, and I wasn't going to go for 2 million. I ended up getting a girl to accept 1. 5 million, but I had tried 2 other girls before her who refused. This girl was extremely hot with big luscious firm breasts, about 5 foot 6, and only 19 years old. Better than the other 2 who refused to take less than 2 million. As far as quality of the ladies that night, the level was about as high as I've ever seen there in all my years in Jakarta. It seems it's hit or miss at these free lance places these days.

Smoothy
09-30-16, 09:06
Last summer I tried the sandwich and I completely agree. I'm not quite sure how the girls do it but it was "pretty agreeable". That's the strangest part of it. I can't figure out how they do it either. Even though I am there when they are doing it to me, it's a mystery. Haha. I can't figure out how the girl on the bottom handles it, but it's excellent and they don't seem to have any problems.

Stykler
09-30-16, 12:02
We all keep hearing about BATS and CJ's as the two more well known FL bars located in 5 star hotels in Jakarta. I'm a newbie to Jakarta and was wondering if there are any alternatives to these places that are worth considering?

Thanks.

Styk.

Smoothy
09-30-16, 15:13
We all keep hearing about BATS and CJ's as the two more well known FL bars located in 5 star hotels in Jakarta. I'm a newbie to Jakarta and was wondering if there are any alternatives to these places that are worth considering?

Thanks.

Styk.For bars that are almost 100% free lance hookers, the only real options I know of are CJs, BATS, and Blok M. There are plenty of night clubs around town with non-hookers where you can pick up girls as well, but you need to have some game or spend some money on bottles of alcohol to do that. That usually ends up being more expensive than just directly paying for sex. At CJs and BATS, you can just walk up to any girl and expect her to go home with you for sex if you pay her.

Sock111
10-01-16, 01:16
Girls are still 350 k at Classic Terminal. Mamasans are just as pushy as ever. I had 2 girls at classic, consecutively not concurrently. The first one was good looking at first, in the room, everything fell out of the dress. I offered her a drink and she ordered a drink and cigarettes. Off to a bad start. She snuck on a condom for the BJ and it was a poor one too. Poor experience so far. I told her to stop sucking, bent her over and pounded her for a bit, but didn't want to waste a nut. No tip, she didn't bother asking for one. Let her go and went back out to find a better girl.

2nd girl was awesome. She had a long torso which I find very attractive, 21 years old with no kids. Service in the room was excellent, BBBJ, LFK and I later arranged to spend the day with her outside classic.

Many times girls at classic are high mileage and it shows on their body. But there are plenty of gems to be found.

FYI.

Bunker opens at 11:00 am to 10:00 pm.

DavidSchmauch
10-01-16, 02:52
I need help here though, I am a master monger, twenty plus years of traveling for sex, been everywhere but Indonesia, and am about to conquer that beast, but I need help; I plan to travel to Jakarta in February and have no idea what to expect. First off, does anyone know how beautiful and fuckable Jakarta girls are in comparison with the rest of SE Asian girls? I've done Thailand and Malasia and I love those girls, but am curious about Indonesian girls. What are the prices like? How safe is Jakarta? Thanks in advance brothers.

Dave Triple X.

Smoothy
10-01-16, 06:49
I need help here though, I am a master monger, twenty plus years of traveling for sex, been everywhere but Indonesia, and am about to conquer that beast, but I need help; I plan to travel to Jakarta in February and have no idea what to expect. First off, does anyone know how beautiful and fuckable Jakarta girls are in comparison with the rest of SE Asian girls? I've done Thailand and Malasia and I love those girls, but am curious about Indonesian girls. What are the prices like? How safe is Jakarta? Thanks in advance brothers.

Dave Triple X.I recommend that you scroll down and read what's already been posted on this forum. All of that information is here.

Beno69
10-01-16, 07:27
.... What are the prices like? How safe is Jakarta? Thanks in advance brothers...
...Dave Triple X.

Dear brother tripple X. What's about reading the forum, before asking silly questions????

Alex7J
10-01-16, 11:44
For bars that are almost 100% free lance hookers, the only real options I know of are CJs, BATS, and Blok M. There are plenty of night clubs around town with non-hookers where you can pick up girls as well, but you need to have some game or spend some money on bottles of alcohol to do that. That usually ends up being more expensive than just directly paying for sex. At CJs and BATS, you can just walk up to any girl and expect her to go home with you for sex if you pay her.Hey buddy,

Tell us about those bars where you need a table and have bottles but can have some normal or high class babes. This is going to be fun as I'm supposed to be in Jakarta next month.

Cheers.

Smoothy
10-01-16, 21:11
Hey buddy,

Tell us about those bars where you need a table and have bottles but can have some normal or high class babes. This is going to be fun as I'm supposed to be in Jakarta next month.

Cheers.Immigrant.

DragonFly.

Domain.

X2.

Blowfish.

Pipe Layer99
10-02-16, 10:30
Where can you buy beer now?

I looked in the Lokasari square area on the main road while walking around, but no luck yet.

They used to sell beer in the IndoMarts. Now they only sell non-alcohol beer.

Koperen Klaas
10-02-16, 19:31
Where can you buy beer now?

I looked in the Lokasari square area on the main road while walking around, but no luck yet.

They used to sell beer in the IndoMarts. Now they only sell non-alcohol beer.In the supermarkets like Hero etc.

Regards,

Ko.

Juggernutt
10-02-16, 20:36
Hi guys,

Where is the place they bring in the fresh meat now?

A while back early 00's it was at TC and today's country. Seedy difficult to get too. But you like them fresh from the kampungs and in experience is the place to be.

Now since it closed never could locate another venue.

Ggekko2009
10-03-16, 00:08
I need help here though, I am a master monger, twenty plus years of traveling for sex, been everywhere but Indonesia, and am about to conquer that beast, but I need help; I plan to travel to Jakarta in February and have no idea what to expect. First off, does anyone know how beautiful and fuckable Jakarta girls are in comparison with the rest of SE Asian girls? I've done Thailand and Malasia and I love those girls, but am curious about Indonesian girls. What are the prices like? How safe is Jakarta? Thanks in advance brothers.

Dave Triple X.You can find lots of info about the scene regarding BATS, BLOK M area etc down the thread, and these areas are mostly in South Jakarta. I can't write much about them since I have never been there myself. But on the North and West side of Jakarta, there are more spas, KTV, and night clubs.

There are a few places that you can visit if this is your first time. These can include Malioboro, Alexis, Colosseum 1001 etc where you can find many things under one roof. These are relatively pricey joints, and so they do not come cheap. However, you can get a bigger selection of quality girls to choose from. At night, in Malioboro and Alexis lounge area, you can see girls dancing nude on stage, but I find their dancing mechanical and boring. My advice is that it is not worth tipping them no matter how much they try to pressure you, since there are other better ways for you to spend your money on the girls.

In these places, the girls are always managed by their mamasan or papasan. So it will be typically that they will approach you and show their girls. I do not find them pushy at all, and you can easily look around without any added pressure if none of the girls shown to you meet your interests.

Again, it is all a matter of preference at the end of the day, quantity vs quality, what qualifies as a good mongering experience etc. Prices in places like these can start with 900 k rupiah and above just for the girls. Facility fee and food / beverage is extra.

Koperen Klaas
10-03-16, 00:19
Hi guys,

Where is the place they bring in the fresh meat now?

A while back early 00's it was at TC and today's country. Seedy difficult to get too. But you like them fresh from the kampungs and in experience is the place to be.

Now since it closed never could locate another venue.There's no particular location for that, obviously. After Idul Fitri many girls will return to Jakarta with their younger sisters, hence the name "sisters day" in Blok M. In other locations around town the same will happen. If you want young girls, be in town after Idul Fitri.

Regards,

Ko.

Smoothy
10-03-16, 05:28
My advice is that it is not worth tipping them no matter how much they try to pressure you, since there are other better ways for you to spend your money on the girls.I don't know about that. I always tip the girls with big tits because I like them to put those naked big tits in my face. I try to sit near the exit from the stage so I can catch them just as they exit the stage. That way I can be their first customer. Although I love to have those big tits in my face, I am not a fan of having a face full of the slobber of some guy who just had his face in her tits.

Menteng
10-03-16, 09:02
Hi guys,

Where is the place they bring in the fresh meat now?

A while back early 00's it was at TC and today's country. Seedy difficult to get too. But you like them fresh from the kampungs and in experience is the place to be.

Now since it closed never could locate another venue.Have you EVER participated in the Jakarta scene? Where do you think the letters TC are derived from? Let me help you, (surprise!): Today's Country (later Tiara Ceria).

Jwolf96
10-03-16, 09:29
Lived in Asia 15+ years and done the rounds of all the usual places, in Jakarta been through Alexis, CJs, BATS, etc. But last night finally made my way to Malioboro, unfortunately. Found the girls very marginal in quality when compared with places like Alexis. Mama-san was nice enough and brought the girls over. I planned to take 2 girls, picked one and then another and was then greeted with the usual 'they need to pick their friends so they can work well together'. So, I let one of the girls pick her 'friend' and we went off to the room. On the way we need to stop at the desk to get condoms. Condom charge is rp100 k for 2 condoms. Turns out these are Asian sized condoms, very small and too tight around the cock. So if you go, bring your own condoms!

The room was quite nice actually, but that was the end of the joy. Girl #1 says her friend has never been with a Bule before and is fearful of the size of my cock. I'm thinking 'why did you insist on bringing her with us then?' We showered and got on the bed, and then the condom came out for the blowjob. Nothing more erection killing than getting a blowjob with a condom. So eventually I fuck girl #1, and it's very much like a starfish. Then I move on to #2, the one who had never been fucked by a Bule. First, she tries to dodge giving the blowjob, but I insist I want to see her slutty Indonesian lips wrapped around my cock. She gives in and sucks my cock for a brief while. With condom. Now I'm moving to position to fuck her, and the bahasa is flying fast and furious between the girls. Girl #1 asks if I just want to fuck her again and finish in her because her friend is worried about the size of my cock. Again, why bring her in to this is she doesn't want Bule cock? Well, I was having none of it, so I turned Girl #2 over on her stomach, grabbed under her hips on each side and pulled her ass cheeks firmly against my hips so that my cock went right up her pussy. I proceeded to fuck her good and deep so that she'll remember Bule cock!

So at the end the girls each ask for a tip, and I'm assuming that is normal as in the other places like this and I tip each girl. Then I start to go downstairs to leave back to Shangri La and BATS as quickly as possible after this soulless fuck session. As I reach the staircase, the guy sitting there asks for a tip, and also the random guy sitting next to him. Typical BS that he keeps the rooms in order, so I tip them both and as I start down that stairs, they say also their other friend needs a tip. Complete BS at this point, but it gets better. I go to the front desk to settle my bill and it has condoms on the bill. I tell them I paid the woman upstairs because she said it was cash for condoms. 'No' they tell me, 'you shouldn't pay cash for the condoms'. Screw it, at this point, I just want to leave. Now as I head out the door, there are 2 security guys, some other random dude in a uniform and a woman, and they all ask for tips, making it very clear I won't be getting out the door without giving tips. I tip all those assholes and literally as I'm getting in the taxi, the security guy holding open the taxi door asks for a tip and won't close the door until I give it to him. The taxi driver is actually laughing about the situation.

Never again, period, never. All these years in Asia and I thought I had seen all the BS, but Malioboro now holds a special place in my heart for being a complete waste. Makes Alexis look like the Magic Kingdom. I was so happy to get back to BATS (where I never should have strayed from!) find a sexy Indonesian party girl and get completely pampered by Asian sexiness in the comfort of my hotel room!

I have pics and video of the BATS girl sucking my cock. I'll post those soon!

Smoothy
10-03-16, 10:23
Have you EVER participated in the Jakarta scene? Where do you think the letters TC are derived from? Let me help you, (surprise!): Today's Country (later Tiara Ceria).Wasn't that near my 2 favorite restaurants? KFC and Kentucky Fried Chicken?

Ggekko2009
10-03-16, 14:00
So at the end the girls each ask for a tip, and I'm assuming that is normal as in the other places like this and I tip each girl. Then I start to go downstairs to leave back to Shangri La and BATS as quickly as possible after this soulless fuck session. As I reach the staircase, the guy sitting there asks for a tip, and also the random guy sitting next to him. Typical BS that he keeps the rooms in order, so I tip them both and as I start down that stairs, they say also their other friend needs a tip. Complete BS at this point, but it gets better. I go to the front desk to settle my bill and it has condoms on the bill. I tell them I paid the woman upstairs because she said it was cash for condoms. 'No' they tell me, 'you shouldn't pay cash for the condoms'. Screw it, at this point, I just want to leave. Now as I head out the door, there are 2 security guys, some other random dude in a uniform and a woman, and they all ask for tips, making it very clear I won't be getting out the door without giving tips. I tip all those assholes and literally as I'm getting in the taxi, the security guy holding open the taxi door asks for a tip and won't close the door until I give it to him. The taxi driver is actually laughing about the situation.I am sorry to hear that this happened to you. I think these people are trying to take the fullest advantage of you, because you are a Bule, which I think really is unfortunate. I am not sure if I want to go there for a threesome after reading what about what you had just experienced. By the way, when did this happen to you if I may ask.

Behemoth
10-03-16, 18:54
Never again, period, never. All these years in Asia and I thought I had seen all the BS, but Malioboro now holds a special place in my heart for being a complete waste. Makes Alexis look like the Magic Kingdom. I was so happy to get back to BATS (where I never should have strayed from!) find a sexy Indonesian party girl and get completely pampered by Asian sexiness in the comfort of my hotel room!
Spot on. I had a similar experience there in Dec last year. A mamasan was insistent that I take a girl from her lineup for 1.5 M, but I thankfully declined. Later found that most of the girls from the same lineup were going for 800 k from another mamasan. I finally selected a girl who seemed very enthusiastic to be picked, but that energy quickly disappeared once we got to the room. 20 second CBJ, wasn't open to several positions, 'hey mister, finish quick' etc etc and my mood was dead at that point. While leaving she had the gall to say that Malio has a '200 k tip minimum compulsory'. I countered with 'how about zero tip for your laziness?' That made her break out in angry Bahasa, so I left a 50 k tip and told her that it's 50 k more than she deserves. Declined the room cleaning boys pestering for tips, and when I got to the door, the security guys too hassled me with the 'mister, hadia', 'no hadia?' etc. Responded with 'fuck hadia' and left.

As for threesomes, I feel it's never worth it. The girls may pick their friends, but they never interact with each other. Most won't even double team on blowjobs. You're just paying them twice the money to do half the work.

Juggernutt
10-03-16, 19:22
Have you EVER participated in the Jakarta scene? Where do you think the letters TC are derived from? Let me help you, (surprise!): Today's Country (later Tiara Ceria).Yeah that's what iT was called that's what I wrote too. It changed names. But When you say Tc. IT was Well known.

So you know what replaced this place?

Koperenklaas: block m you mean nightlife area or the malls to meet them?

Can't remember being there after idulnfitri.

Juggernutt
10-03-16, 19:27
Wasn't that near my 2 favorite restaurants? KFC and Kentucky Fried Chicken?Haha now I see What you are on about. Grammar nazi baitches.

Thanks for correcting me. Not sure if it was grammar mistake or a typo.

But you get my question.

Smoothy
10-03-16, 22:20
Lived in Asia 15+ years and done the rounds of all the usual places, in Jakarta been through Alexis, CJs, BATS, etc. But last night finally made my way to Malioboro, unfortunately. Found the girls very marginal in quality when compared with places like Alexis. Mama-san was nice enough and brought the girls over. I planned to take 2 girls, picked one and then another and was then greeted with the usual 'they need to pick their friends so they can work well together'. So, I let one of the girls pick her 'friend' and we went off to the room. On the way we need to stop at the desk to get condoms. Condom charge is rp100 k for 2 condoms. Turns out these are Asian sized condoms, very small and too tight around the cock. So if you go, bring your own condoms!

The room was quite nice actually, but that was the end of the joy. Girl #1 says her friend has never been with a Bule before and is fearful of the size of my cock. I'm thinking 'why did you insist on bringing her with us then?' We showered and got on the bed, and then the condom came out for the blowjob. Nothing more erection killing than getting a blowjob with a condom. So eventually I fuck girl #1, and it's very much like a starfish. Then I move on to #2, the one who had never been fucked by a Bule. First, she tries to dodge giving the blowjob, but I insist I want to see her slutty Indonesian lips wrapped around my cock. She gives in and sucks my cock for a brief while. With condom. Now I'm moving to position to fuck her, and the bahasa is flying fast and furious between the girls. Girl #1 asks if I just want to fuck her again and finish in her because her friend is worried about the size of my cock. Again, why bring her in to this is she doesn't want Bule cock? Well, I was having none of it, so I turned Girl #2 over on her stomach, grabbed under her hips on each side and pulled her ass cheeks firmly against my hips so that my cock went right up her pussy. I proceeded to fuck her good and deep so that she'll remember Bule cock!

So at the end the girls each ask for a tip, and I'm assuming that is normal as in the other places like this and I tip each girl. Then I start to go downstairs to leave back to Shangri La and BATS as quickly as possible after this soulless fuck session. As I reach the staircase, the guy sitting there asks for a tip, and also the random guy sitting next to him. Typical BS that he keeps the rooms in order, so I tip them both and as I start down that stairs, they say also their other friend needs a tip. Complete BS at this point, but it gets better. I go to the front desk to settle my bill and it has condoms on the bill. I tell them I paid the woman upstairs because she said it was cash for condoms. 'No' they tell me, 'you shouldn't pay cash for the condoms'. Screw it, at this point, I just want to leave. Now as I head out the door, there are 2 security guys, some other random dude in a uniform and a woman, and they all ask for tips, making it very clear I won't be getting out the door without giving tips. I tip all those assholes and literally as I'm getting in the taxi, the security guy holding open the taxi door asks for a tip and won't close the door until I give it to him. The taxi driver is actually laughing about the situation.

Never again, period, never. All these years in Asia and I thought I had seen all the BS, but Malioboro now holds a special place in my heart for being a complete waste. Makes Alexis look like the Magic Kingdom. I was so happy to get back to BATS (where I never should have strayed from!) find a sexy Indonesian party girl and get completely pampered by Asian sexiness in the comfort of my hotel room!

I have pics and video of the BATS girl sucking my cock. I'll post those soon!That's the worst story I've ever heard at Malioboro. I find your story concerning since I did not know they ever tried pulling that kind of crap there. I am wondering if perhaps it had something to do with you taking 2 girls. I have never paid for a condom there. The girls always have them (many times they don't use them anyway). I have never had a blowjob there with a condom. I have had girls ask to use a condom for the BJ, but I've always refused that and they gave the BJ sans condom. I have also never had any of the guys seated near the staircase ask for a tip, let alone give them a tip. My guess is perhaps they identified you as a sucker when you paid 100 k for the condoms initially, or they thought you were a high roller since you took 2 girls. I have had the girls at the front desk downstairs ask for a tip as I pay the bill, but I've never given them one. I've never had any of the security guys on the way out ask for a tip, however, I never let them get a taxi for me. I always walk out to the street towards Gajah Mada plaza and flag my own taxi in the street away from Malioboro. Because I don't want the security giving me a crap taxi then hassling me for a tip - which is what they will do pretty much anywhere in north Jakarta.

As far as starfish sex, that's a definite possibility at many of these places, and I have definitely had that happen at Malioboro in the past. Hotel Classic and Hotel Travel are the worst for starfish sex, but Malioboro is also a place that it happens a lot. I have always had good sessions at Alexis though. But Alexis is way off in the boondocks and expensive, so I don't go there so often. I've visited Malioboro over 100 times and I have had many very good sessions there as well as some bad ones. I'd say about 8 out of 10 times I have had good experiences there. At Hotel Classic and Hotel Travel, 8 out of 10 times I have a shitty starfish experience.

I would never recommend taking 2 girls at Malioboro, Hotel Classic or Hotel Travel. Taking 2 always seems to cause the girls to perform worse. If you want 2 girls in Jakarta, Maribaya at Hotel Melawai and Kartika near Malioboro are the only 2 guaranteed good sessions. But the girls there are not the youngest or most beautiful. I still would recommend a threesome at those places over 2 younger girls in a bad session at Malioboro, Classic or Travel.

Looking forward to the pics of the BATS chicks! I was there the other night and the talent was excellent.

Koperen Klaas
10-03-16, 22:42
Koperenklaas: block m you mean nightlife area or the malls to meet them?

Can't remember being there after idulnfitri.I was referring to Jalan Felatehan in Blok M. Try some of the bars there after Idul Fitri.

Regards,

Ko.

Pipe Layer99
10-04-16, 03:02
In the supermarkets like Hero etc. Regards, Ko.Thanks. I will try to find one. Beer at the hotel is expensive plus 21%. Luckily I brought some Jack the with me.

Pipe Layer99
10-04-16, 03:12
Lived in Asia 15+ years and done the rounds of all the usual places, in Jakarta been through Alexis, CJs, BATS, etc. But last night finally made my way to Malioboro, unfortunately. Found the girls very marginal in quality when compared with places like Alexis. Mama-san was nice enough and brought the girls over. I planned to take 2 girls, picked one and then another and was then greeted with the usual 'they need to pick their friends so they can work well together'. So, I let one of the girls pick her 'friend' and we went off to the room. On the way we need to stop at the desk to get condoms. Condom charge is rp100 k for 2 condoms. Turns out these are Asian sized condoms, very small and too tight around the cock. So if you go, bring your own condoms!That sucks about the 2 girls and the tipping BS. If you want to 2 girls try at Classic. Much cheaper. It's either 525 or 550 for the two. So if they suck, you don't lose much. Another place is Maribaya in Hotel Melawi.

I usually take my own condoms with me when I travel. No need to use small Asian condoms. And no need to have to pay for them at the place either.

They do sometimes add stuff on your bill. They tried to add condoms on my bill at Malioboro in the last too. I said no, I didn't take them. They tried to argue and I said no. And I showed them I have my OWN condoms. All that extra BS for nothing. Regarding tips. No need to tip. If the girl gives great service, I like to tip them. If they give lazy service, no tip. No need to tip the hallway staff either or anyone else. Just walk away.

Have fun on the rest of your trip. It will get better.

Ggekko2009
10-04-16, 04:26
I went to CJ last night, deciding to skip Malioboro after reading the negative report experienced by one of our ISGer. Since I have never been to CJ, I thought why not give it try and check out the joint. Anyway, a trip through South Jakarta around 8 pm still required a good 30 minutes from my hotel.

Note that CJ does not open until 9 PM, and there's a cover charge of 200 K rupiah for a drink (beer selection mostly) to enter. A few minutes after entering the bar, there began a slow stream of girls coming in. I was sitting right in the middle of the island drinking my first bottle, and each girl that passed through would passively looked at me to gauge my interest. Some of them would say Hi. Nonetheless, the night was still young, and I was not willing to tie myself down with anyone yet, until I was able to survey the complete inventory. The stream of girls coming into the bar started to pick up quickly after 10 PM. There's more girls than guys that night, and I did find many of them looking pretty good looking. I was able to strike up conversations with fellow hobbyists (I guess all guys are hobbyists at that point LOL) in the bar to try to get more information of the rate etc. I was told that the going rate is anywhere between 1 to 1.5 mil, though some may start with 2 mil, but you can always negotiate with them.

Anyway, I find the girls to be relatively passive, and they would wait for your initiation before they approach you. Having surveyed the layout of the land, I finally found a girl that I like and initiated conversation. I asked if she might have a friend where I can bring back to my hotel for a threesome. Maybe not a good idea, since she pulled in a friend that was on the heavier side. I should have said no to her friend but decided to let it slide. Anyway, we went back to my hotel with both them. Their performance was right along the line that I expected. I was actually surprised that they were more than willing to kiss each other on the lips, breasts, more importantly lick on each other's pussies, and at least pretended to enjoy it. The unfortunate part of the experience was that their bodies were much flabbier that expected, especially the heavier girl. In addition, given their higher mileage, I took precaution to cover myself up, including BJ, to reduce exposure. The sex was good with the slimmer girl, and she stayed till next morning where she had to leave early for her day job. I sent the heavier set girl home after the first pop.

So far, my first experience at CJ have been positive, and I may go back again for another round before leaving Jakarta. I was also told by a fellow hobbyist to check out MO bar at Oriental Mandarin given that Wednesday is ladies night, and you would expect more ladies to appear. If time permits, I may do just that.

Smoothy
10-04-16, 05:22
If you want to 2 girls try at Classic. Much cheaper. It's either 525 or 550 for the two. So if they suck, you don't lose much. As cheap as that deal is, I still wouldn't recommend it. I've tried it 3 times there, every time a disaster. As tempting as the cheap double up price may seem, I only recommend taking one girl when at Classic. Then again, even with one girl the chance of a starfish at Classic is high.

The difference in service between Classic and Maribaya is unbelievably drastic. The Maribaya girls (although normally older and less attractive) will screw your brains out if you take 2 girls. The Classic girls will just be even more starfish with 2 girls in the room than they are with one.

LifeIsABeach
10-04-16, 07:07
Malioboro over rated and not worth the expense. I have never had a star fish experience at Classic. Always had a wonderful experiences there. I think it just comes down to how you treat the women. Treat them like no bodies, expect a start fish experience. Treat them with respect, good chance you'll get a great time.

Smoothy
10-04-16, 08:44
Malioboro over rated and not worth the expense. I have never had a star fish experience at Classic. Always had a wonderful experiences there. I think it just comes down to how you treat the women. Treat them like no bodies, expect a start fish experience. Treat them with respect, good chance you'll get a great time.Ya, I must treat the girls like no bodies while I am at Hotel Classic, but treat the girls with respect at all the other places where I get great service. Good call. Why didn't I think of that? And here I thought I always treated them great everywhere. My mistake.

Pipe Layer99
10-04-16, 08:58
Malioboro over rated and not worth the expense. I have never had a star fish experience at Classic. Always had a wonderful experiences there. I think it just comes down to how you treat the women. Treat them like no bodies, expect a start fish experience. Treat them with respect, good chance you'll get a great time.I agree. On my previous trip to Classic I had 3 girls with decent service at Classic 2 (two girls got tips, the third didn't let me take a picture), and 1 very good girl at Classic 5 (that one earned a nice tip). Now on this trip, I had one really good girl so far there. She gave a serious BBBJ, multiple positions, and let me take photos afterwards. Great girl with a sexy ass body. She was supposed to come over the next day before work, but was a no-show. I figure they all have a 50/50 chance of not coming through. No sweat though since there are tons of options. In fact, I saw about 7-9 girls that I liked in Classic 2. I will be back.

Orangganteng
10-04-16, 15:09
I think Classic is mainly geared towards local Indo Mongers, who prefer cheap prices and the quick "wham-bam" approachSeems a contradiction.

LifeIsABeach
10-05-16, 05:41
Ya, I must treat the girls like no bodies while I am at Hotel Classic, but treat the girls with respect at all the other places where I get great service. Good call. Why didn't I think of that? And here I thought I always treated them great everywhere. My mistake.No problem Smoothy, we all have good days and bad days. Smoothy is a big contributor to the Indonesia thread and his contributions are appreciated. But, don't you pay a lot more money at other places and women are attracted by the scent of money?

Smoothy
10-05-16, 06:42
No problem Smoothy, we all have good days and bad days. Smoothy is a big contributor to the Indonesia thread and his contributions are appreciated. But, don't you pay a lot more money at other places and women are attracted by the scent of money?I'm just kiddin'. Of course, treating them well will likely net you a better experience. I always treat every girl as if they were my personal girlfriend. Although it doesn't always work out that way, I love the GFE experience. That is of course why I prefer free lancers over the brothel girls as well. It's much easier to get a GFE with a free lancer who only goes with you that night over a girl who spreads her legs for 8 different guys a night. I don't find that paying more money does much to get you a better experience though. I'm of course not a fan of Classic or Travel, but there are plenty of down market places with the same type of young girls that I love because the girls are more playful. I'm not really even a big fan of Malioboro because there is a decent chance for a star fish experience there as well. However, I wouldn't say that Malioboro is overrated because there is an advantage to going to Malioboro over going to Hotel Classic. (forget Hotel Travel, I think that place sucks) The advantage Malioboro or even King Cross have over Hotel Classic is that they charge a high enough cover charge to keep the lower class locals out. I can sit in Malioboro in a nice, clean, enjoyable atmosphere and enjoy my drink in leisure while I pick out my girl. If I am sitting in Hotel Classic on a busy night there are literally over 1000 cheap ass local guys there to watch the nude dancers. They fill the place with smoke and it's crowded as hell. Also, the Malioboro girls only have sex with one or two guys in a night. The Classic girls are shagged about 8 times a night. So the Malioboro girls are fresher. I'm not even saying the girls at Malioboro are any better looking, because those girls rotate between the two places on many occasions.

I never go to Classic at night because by that time the girls have already been shagged too many times and the place is crowded. However, I will on occasion go to Classic during the day. Maybe that's why they are almost always starfish. They just woke up. Haha.

Menteng
10-05-16, 10:44
Wasn't that near my 2 favorite restaurants? KFC and Kentucky Fried Chicken?Great!

BTW, did you read his reaction?

YetAnotherGuy
10-06-16, 06:57
So at the end the girls each ask for a tip, and I'm assuming that is normal as in the other places like this and I tip each girl. Then I start to go downstairs to leave back to Shangri La and BATS as quickly as possible after this soulless fuck session. As I reach the staircase, the guy sitting there asks for a tip, and also the random guy sitting next to him. Typical BS that he keeps the rooms in order, so I tip them both and as I start down that stairs, they say also their other friend needs a tip. Complete BS at this point, but it gets better. I go to the front desk to settle my bill and it has condoms on the bill. I tell them I paid the woman upstairs because she said it was cash for condoms. 'No' they tell me, 'you shouldn't pay cash for the condoms'. Screw it, at this point, I just want to leave. Now as I head out the door, there are 2 security guys, some other random dude in a uniform and a woman, and they all ask for tips, making it very clear I won't be getting out the door without giving tips. I tip all those assholes and literally as I'm getting in the taxi, the security guy holding open the taxi door asks for a tip and won't close the door until I give it to him. The taxi driver is actually laughing about the situation.

Never again, period, never. All these years in Asia and I thought I had seen all the BS, but Malioboro now holds a special place in my heart for being a complete waste. Makes Alexis look like the Magic Kingdom. I was so happy to get back to BATS (where I never should have strayed from!) find a sexy Indonesian party girl and get completely pampered by Asian sexiness in the comfort of my hotel room!..Sorry to hear about your crummy experience with the tip-mongers. I'd suggest never tipping someone who's given you little or no service (such as the guys in the hallway, the security folks, and the guy who got you a taxi). Simply smile and say 'sorry'. The deal is that these guys use that line on hundreds of people and very rarely (I mean extremely rarely) get a positive response. When one of them does get a tip, a feeding frenzy starts and everyone wants their part. Sort of like in the days of door-to-door sales people, if you bought a set of encyclopedias you'd soon find a vacuum cleaner salesperson at your door. A similar thing sometimes happens at Classic when you turn in your 'yes I've paid' card at the door when leaving, the girls that take your card sometimes ask for a tip (they want 20 k). Just smile and say 'sorry', no one will think badly of you. All that said, I agree that Alexis is a way nicer place to deal with than Malioboro.

YetAnotherGuy
10-06-16, 07:03
I would never recommend taking 2 girls at Malioboro, Hotel Classic or Hotel Travel. Taking 2 always seems to cause the girls to perform worse. If you want 2 girls in Jakarta, Maribaya at Hotel Melawai and Kartika near Malioboro are the only 2 guaranteed good sessions. But the girls there are not the youngest or most beautiful. I still would recommend a threesome at those places over 2 younger girls in a bad session at Malioboro, Classic or Travel...I agree, 2 always sounds good in theory, but in practice they end up spending more time talking with each other than having fun with you. I think they also put a damper on each other, neither wants to look like they're putting out too much for a client in front of the other.

Lost99
10-06-16, 20:31
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