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Smoothy
06-30-17, 07:38
I'll be doing my "remote work" in Jakarta soon. Is this area accessible to office buildings? Does it have much to offer, other than girls, for those living for 2 months. Thanks.I'm not sure what to make of that question. Is it near office buildings? I guess that depends on which office building you want to be near. There are lots of tall office buildings and big shopping malls near, but I think that's going to be the case regardless of where you stay in Jakarta.

Is it my favorite area to hang out? No. Although it has offices and malls in the area, it's not a particularly nice area of town. My favorite areas for hanging out are the more upscale parts of Jakarta, but those areas are nowhere near the sex spots in town. It depends what you want from your 2 months in town, easy access to the brothels or a nice environment. They are mutually exclusive in Jakarta. The areas with the brothels are all pretty much dirty and crappy relative to the areas where you will not find brothels. However, for fairly cheap sex with hot young girls on a daily basis, it's a hard area to beat Kelapa Gading. The other area to hang out for sex would be near Hotel Classic. That is more centrally located. Traffic is a major concern in Jakarta as it takes a long time to get anywhere during the day. If you plan to hang out almost exclusively at Kelapa Gading, then I would for sure stay near there. If you plan to get around to other parts of town often, KG is a bit far away so I would stay elsewhere.

Crocodilexp
06-30-17, 16:13
I'll be doing my "remote work" in Jakarta soon. Is this area accessible to office buildings? Does it have much to offer, other than girls, for those living for 2 months. Thanks.Which office buildings? If you're working remotely (not sure why that's in quotes), get a good internet wherever you stay. Due to traffic, any sort of commute is a huge hassle in Jakarta, unless you're right next to where you need to go, as in, walking distance, under 500 m -- sidewalks tend to be atrocious too, and it's messy when it rains.

As for much to offer, this is a girl forum. Jakarta is not high up the list of the world's most livable city, but it's huge, and has all that big cities do (even if it's a bit hard to access) -- a vibrant music scene, some decent food and so on -- all depends on what you're interested in.

Why Jakarta and not Bali, though? The only thing I'd recommend Jakarta for over Bali is great accessibility of regular girls (non-pros). Plenty of pros too (and cheap), but unlike Pattaya, for instance, the scene isn't quite as relaxed or enjoyable for browsing.

DubyaMan88
07-01-17, 06:07
Dubya- as noted by OS, you seem to think other members are minions is to gather information and forward to you to make your life easier. Please a little better balance between asking and giving would help your cause.

Below are some of your most recent posts:

1. Can you send me some contacts in Delhi / Gurgaon please? Also, what are the rates?

2. Can you please send me name of SP or connect me to the SP? I will be in Chennai from 18th to 22nd July.

3. Looks nice bro. Can you share details?

4. Looking for some contacts in Chennai. Prefer a lady in her 30's. Please PM me details.

5. Would love to get some information on getting mature (30 - 40 yrs) women in Barcelona. I will be there in a few weeks. Also approximate costs.

6. Any one has had Kazakh / Uzbek / Russian girls in Gurgaon? Please PM me numbers along with costs.I have shared numbers with dozens of members in Dubai, Kazakhastan, Bangkok and Yangon but the mistake I think I made was that these through PM and my questions were in the open forum making me seem only like a taker and not a giver. Certainly do not want to take any members for granted and apologies if I have offended anyone's sensibilities.

Crocodilexp
07-03-17, 05:24
I have shared numbers with dozens of members in Dubai, Kazakhastan, Bangkok and Yangon but the mistake I think I made was that these through PM and my questions were in the open forum making me seem only like a taker and not a giver. Yeah, with a grand total of 18 public posts, that's very believable -- NOT.

Why would anyone even bother asking you for advice over PM with such a thin public posting history?

Kodja
07-03-17, 12:39
Is this open in the afternoon for any type of action or is in only in the evenings?

Any info on this place would be great as I've never been before and looking at trying a few different places the week after next when I'm in town.

Thanks!

Fast Eddie 48
07-03-17, 21:46
Is this open in the afternoon for any type of action or is in only in the evenings?

Any info on this place would be great as I've never been before and looking at trying a few different places the week after next when I'm in town.

Thanks!To Kodja.

I been there once last year around 3 pm still early not many girl available price is same level as Hotel travel and Classic, I didn't pick a girl quality is not great is 20 min taxi east of Manga Besar area w traffic, there are many place like this all over Jakarta don't think I will go back I have friend that got service there told me is nothing special about the service just another cheap brothel.

Fast Eddie 48.

Smoothy
07-05-17, 05:10
There are some nice girls at FM1, but I have never tried it in the afternoon. Medika is close to there and I prefer Medika.

Kodja
07-05-17, 10:37
There are some nice girls at FM1, but I have never tried it in the afternoon. Medika is close to there and I prefer Medika.I haven't been to either before so I'll post a report after my visit next week.

I have more spare time in the late afternoons fro this type of action than evenings that's why I was asking.

Can you offer any other tips about either place please?

SteelBaton
07-05-17, 13:19
So here's an odd one. Recently a mamasan that I've come to know suggested I meet a couple of new girls to see if I was interested. The first was of no interest: chubby, short, bad face. The second one was tallish, had a pretty face, decent breasts, and a 7 month pregnant belly. She is 21. Strangely, I found her immediately sexy. This is nothing that I've ever had a fantasy about, in fact the idea is usually not appealing at all. But something about her smile, her willingness, and the rareness of the moment, tipped me over the edge.

I'll not say a lot, except that it was terrific session with more positions that I'd imagined were possible and that the girl seemed to enjoy as well. I gave her an extra large tip for the schooling fund (all in 1. 0 million). Says her long-time boyfriend promised to marry her but then got cold feet and disappeared in month 3. Anyway, that's another box ticked, even if I didn't know that was a box that needed ticking.

If a senior member wants details, please PM me. I think the woman would be grateful for a few more *gentlemen* to contribute to the cause. Limited time offer.

OmBule
07-05-17, 14:19
Well not breaking, but since no one else has posted these two items here, I will. An era is ending on Jl. Faltehan and Jl. Melawai.

Hotel Melawai Sixth Floor has been closed, says Eva, a buxom worker from the sixth floor. This is not for Ramadhan, she says. This is forever. They're bankrupt, according to Eva. Although how one could go bankrupt in that business is mind-boggling. (There are buyers. There are sellers. There is an active market. But those rent-seeking middlemen!

However, don't despair. In a What's App chat with me, Eva said that she and a few of the girls will be checking into the hotel and inviting their regulars in. Indonesia bisa!

Separately, the back room at nearby the's Place has been propelled into the contemporary capitalist era!

After renovation, the room now sports many spacious booths, all with curtains to be pulled shut for privacy. Another innovation is that the room is now secured by an access card. You pay Rp 250,000 per entry, on top of whatever you negotiate with your woman of the moment. So the pants-around-your-ankles-in-plain-sight experience as well as the ugly-chick-security-service shakedown have been replaced by rent seeking from the management of the's Place. In a nod to customer loyalty program, you may get your own card with unlimited access for an annual fee of Rp 4.5 juta.

Again, meddlesome middlemen! Don't they know that there are apps for this, including my soon to be launched BloJek. (Now seeking first-round venture funding. The idea is simple: Women with smartphones on motorcycles receiving messages. Uh, maybe you get the idea).

Finally, a terrorist attacked and killed a police officer at the mosque near Faletehan last week. If these guys ever get their act together, we're in trouble.

Seriously, what does man have to do to get by in Jakarta? I mean, if every other low-rent hotel nearby Blok M didn't have shady spas offering massages, even during Ramadan, all this news would be depressing.

OmBule
07-05-17, 17:54
I think something is screwy with my browser or my autocorrect. I cannot type the fourth letter of the alphabet without it being transformed into the word "the".

I mention a bar called "the place" below. I mean "Dee's Place", except spelled without the "ee".

Whoops.

Write your TR on a text document (Word, Wordpad, Notepad, whatever). Proofread it. Then read it again until you are satisfied you have got it right. Then copy and paste it into the TR field.

A3

KoreanAjooma
07-07-17, 18:57
Will be in Jakarta for work from July 11th to 16th (first visit).

Have only mongered in KL before, so I'm very excited for this one.

Will be staying at Yello Hotel Harmoni (fantastic reviews on Agoda.com).

Planning to hit as many places I can, to sniff out places that are the "best fit" for me.

I'm relatively young, and have little experience with lady drinks, so will try to focus on spas. Some places I'm definitely dropping by:

Classic Terminal.

- just very curious about this place!

Emporium Spa.

- intrigued after reading a fantastic FR on this thread.

- keen to try out the VIP girls there.

- as place is run by the Alexis group, I wonder how the quality compares between the two places.

Illegals Spa.

- heard the club here is dead, but the spa facilities seem nice.

- plus, the cost of a normal girl, about 800 k seems reasonable compared to other more extravagant spas.

- they have special theme girls (bases on official Instagram posts), about 1. 0-1. 2 mn. Quite curious about Thai too!

Malioboro.

- just across my hotel.

- quite scared to go to Malio Club, as my inexperience means I will probably be swamped by lady drinks. Maybe I will quickly pick one of the couch girls and get the hell out of there.

- heard Malioboro Spa is NOT value for money? Will have to see the girls' quality for myself.

King Cross.

- bit far, but heard it is incredibly value for money. 800 k for locals.

- I also hear the dancers can be had for 1.5 mn ish. Keen to find out.

Sumo Spa.

- 800 k for 2 girls. ? Need to experience this myself.

- also, the dancers here can be taken for around 1.0 mn, I gather. Will be good value, if quality is there.

Still unsure about Alexis and The Pool. I'm sure the standard over there is great, but would it be so much above the other places to justify the significant extra outlay? Will probably stick with Empo, if quality can be found there, since its cheaper and closer.

Also iffy on V2 Spa. Very little info to be found online, but extremely close to my hotel. Maybe I will bite the bullet and explore it myself.

I will report back on my experiences after each day. Hopefully, they will prove useful to someone haha.

A. if anyone has helpful tips, comments, please do share!

Be. Oh, and as mentioned above, I am completely new to the dance club / strip show scene. So how does 'taking a dancer' work? If I am quoted 1.5 mn for a dancer, in addition to the tips I pay, do I need to buy additional lady drinks (on top of the 1.5 m) can I just March into a dance club, pick a dancer I like, and boom, that's it?

If so, I'll also considering places like Tease (1.8 mn), Malio Spa (1.7 m, 2.0 m) and Malio Club (3.3 m).

SeaTraveler
07-10-17, 01:16
Hotel Melawai Sixth Floor has been closed, says Eva, This is forever. This is depressing news. I spent 6 months working in Indonesia in 2014.

Every time I got to Jakarta I visited this place, sometimes twice a day.

I loved this place.

I am planning to return for a few weeks later this year and now learn my go-to place is gone. So sad.

Of course I also frequented CJ's, BATS & Blok M at night, so let's hope they remain.

JXXXL
07-12-17, 07:06
I'm hoping to get some advice from the esteemed members on an upcoming trip to Jakarta.

I'm planning a golf trip with a group of about 10 guys. *One thing I'm grappling with is whether to stay in central or north Jakarta. *I've stayed in central Jakarta many times and done BATS and*CJ's as have some of the group. *I'm thinking I'd like to try Alexis, Malio and maybe some clubs and I heard there are some good ones in north Jakarta. *I'd also like to avoid the sausage fest at CJ's, and with 10 guys, we'd only be adding to it.

Do any of you guys have any thoughts on staying strictly in north Jakarta and the options. *I've read a lot of posts on Alexis and Malio and it sounds like you could make an entire night at either of those places, albeit and expensive one. *.

Fast Eddie 48
07-12-17, 22:10
I'm hoping to get some advice from the esteemed members on an upcoming trip to Jakarta.

I'm planning a golf trip with a group of about 10 guys. *One thing I'm grappling with is whether to stay in central or north Jakarta. *I've stayed in central Jakarta many times and done BATS and*CJ's as have some of the group. *I'm thinking I'd like to try Alexis, Malio and maybe some clubs and I heard there are some good ones in north Jakarta. *I'd also like to avoid the sausage fest at CJ's, and with 10 guys, we'd only be adding to it.

Do any of you guys have any thoughts on staying strictly in north Jakarta and the options. *I've read a lot of posts on Alexis and Malio and it sounds like you could make an entire night at either of those places, albeit and expensive one. *.To Jxxxl.

I also like to stay at central Jakarta around Hyatt hotel area good central locations and many Mall for shopping during the day, you can always take a taxi to the north at taxi is cheap here there are not too many 5 star hotel in the north.

Fast Eddie 48.

Smoothy
07-13-17, 10:13
Well not breaking, but since no one else has posted these two items here, I will. An era is ending on Jl. Faltehan and Jl. Melawai.

Hotel Melawai Sixth Floor has been closed, says Eva, a buxom worker from the sixth floor. This is not for Ramadhan, she says. This is forever. They're bankrupt, according to Eva. Although how one could go bankrupt in that business is mind-boggling. (There are buyers. There are sellers. There is an active market. But those rent-seeking middlemen!

However, don't despair. In a What's App chat with me, Eva said that she and a few of the girls will be checking into the hotel and inviting their regulars in. Indonesia bisa!

Separately, the back room at nearby the's Place has been propelled into the contemporary capitalist era!

After renovation, the room now sports many spacious booths, all with curtains to be pulled shut for privacy. Another innovation is that the room is now secured by an access card. You pay Rp 250,000 per entry, on top of whatever you negotiate with your woman of the moment. So the pants-around-your-ankles-in-plain-sight experience as well as the ugly-chick-security-service shakedown have been replaced by rent seeking from the management of the's Place. In a nod to customer loyalty program, you may get your own card with unlimited access for an annual fee of Rp 4.5 juta.

Again, meddlesome middlemen! Don't they know that there are apps for this, including my soon to be launched BloJek. (Now seeking first-round venture funding. The idea is simple: Women with smartphones on motorcycles receiving messages. Uh, maybe you get the idea).

Finally, a terrorist attacked and killed a police officer at the mosque near Faletehan last week. If these guys ever get their act together, we're in trouble.

Seriously, what does man have to do to get by in Jakarta? I mean, if every other low-rent hotel nearby Blok M didn't have shady spas offering massages, even during Ramadan, all this news would be depressing.Great report! Thanks for the info. It's truly sad that Maribaya has closed. I had some great times there over the years.

I find it hard to believe that anyone will be paying 250 k just to enter the VIP room at DS place, but I am curious what they've done. Unfortunately, I am guessing the girls are the same they have had for the past 10 years or so.

Smoothy
07-13-17, 10:28
Will be staying at Yello Hotel Harmoni

Planning to hit as many places I can, to sniff out places that are the "best fit" for me.

Classic Terminal.

Emporium Spa.

Illegals Spa.

Malioboro.

King Cross.

Sumo Spa.

Still unsure about Alexis and The Pool. I'm sure the standard over there is great, but would it be so much above the other places to justify the significant extra outlay? Will probably stick with Empo, if quality can be found there, since its cheaper and closer.

Also iffy on V2 Spa. Very little info to be found online, but extremely close to my hotel. Maybe I will bite the bullet and explore it myself.

If so, I'll also considering places like Tease (1.8 mn), Malio Spa (1.7 m, 2.0 m) and Malio Club (3.3 m).I'm a bit curious why you are staying at a $30 a night hotel when you are willing to pay for the most expensive girls in town. Although new and clean, those rooms at Yello are tiny. Harris Hotel Harmoni is brand new and has a 60 square meter suite that is only $100 a night. I guess it depends how often you will be in the room. Considering your aggressive itinerary at various brothels, you likely won't be in the room much, so you don't have to worry much about being in a small hotel room. Personally, I like to bring girls to my room as well and find it nice to have a bigger room.

In my opinion, the quality of girls and facilities at Alexis is far superior to Emporivm pretty much every time. The last time I visited Emporivm (I rarely go there), I didn't see any girls I liked and left. But like anywhere, the staff rotates and you can find gems anyplace.

V2 has some good talent most times. It's worth checking out since you are so close.

Illegals normally has some excellent talent in the karaoke, but is expensive.

Although I love King Cross and Sumo, Since you are only in town less than a week and wanting to try a plethora of venues, I suggest you skip Kelapa Gading and stick to the places you are close to. I never understand the need to visit every place in town in one visit. Savor the experience.

Enjoy.

Wander Luster
07-15-17, 07:36
Which office buildings? If you're working remotely (not sure why that's in quotes), get a good internet wherever you stay. Due to traffic, any sort of commute is a huge hassle in Jakarta, unless you're right next to where you need to go, as in, walking distance, under 500 m -- sidewalks tend to be atrocious too, and it's messy when it rains..Been there, in Jarkata, done that. Yea, not great.


As for much to offer, this is a girl forum. Jakarta is not high up the list of the world's most livable city, but it's huge, and has all that big cities do (even if it's a bit hard to access) -- a vibrant music scene, some decent food and so on -- all depends on what you're interested in. Also been there done that. Somehow thought it might be a bit under the radar vs. BKK for example. I had a lot of great times prior to being there for the overthrow of Sukarto. Glad to have been there when he fell, though. Have not been back since then, though.


Why Jakarta and not Bali, though? The only thing I'd recommend Jakarta for over Bali is great accessibility of regular girls (non-pros). Plenty of pros too (and cheap), but unlike Pattaya, for instance, the scene isn't quite as relaxed or enjoyable for browsing.Interesting question! 15 years ago Bali was pretty useless for P2 P. Kuta had some skanky working girl houses, and no one on hear was talking about FL there. But, I don't think Bali has much to offer vs. Jakarta or elsewhere in SEA? I'm not sure.

Koperen Klaas
07-16-17, 15:31
Great report! Thanks for the info. It's truly sad that Maribaya has closed. I had some great times there over the years.

I find it hard to believe that anyone will be paying 250 k just to enter the VIP room at DS place, but I am curious what they've done. Unfortunately, I am guessing the girls are the same they have had for the past 10 years or so.I'm in Jakarta at the moment and curiously ISG is not blocked. Good. I went to Maribaya this week and the doorman told me it is closed for renovation. I would be surprised if it was bankrupt, since it belongs to the hotel. The doorman showed me to the alternative location, across the road where I could choose from a number of girls. I recognised none of them, but selected one just to try her out. The room was even seedier than Maribaya, with only a mattress on the floor. Service from the girl was mediocre. I'm trying to connect some of the girls I know and invite them to my hotel.

Regards,

Ko.

Koperen Klaas
07-16-17, 19:22
This is depressing news. I spent 6 months working in Indonesia in 2014.

Every time I got to Jakarta I visited this place, sometimes twice a day.

I loved this place.

I am planning to return for a few weeks later this year and now learn my go-to place is gone. So sad.

Of course I also frequented CJ's, BATS & Blok M at night, so let's hope they remain.The doorman of Hotel Melawai told me they are closed for "renovasi", so not indefinitely. He could not tell me how long it would be.

Regards,

Ko.

SteelBaton
07-16-17, 23:04
I'm hoping to get some advice from the esteemed members on an upcoming trip to Jakarta.

Do any of you guys have any thoughts on staying strictly in north Jakarta and the options. *I've read a lot of posts on Alexis and Malio and it sounds like you could make an entire night at either of those places, albeit and expensive one. *.I like the venues in North Jakarta. That's really the only place I go. I have looked all over the North looking for a decent hotel, probably stayed in 6 different places, but really haven't found anything I liked. The Grand Mercure Harmoni is the best located for what you are after but I found it to be a pretty weak 4 star experience with bad breakfasts. The Pullman at Central Park is better but much further away, however a quick trip to and from the airport. You could always stay at Travel Hotel which is attached to a decent club.

If you have the money I'd stay near Plaza Indonesia at the Pullman, the Grand Hyatt, or one of the several other hotels. Lots of great restaurants and other things in that area. Make your peace with the traffic by getting a good data plan and spring for a couple of Silver Bird Innova vans that will have you all riding comfortably from the better hotels to the good north Jakarta venues. The place that is a bicth to get to are clubs around Kings Cross and Sumo. But definitely worth a trip, IMO, just go late or early to avoid peak traffic.

Sounds like a good time. Enjoy!

Bkk212
07-17-17, 01:18
Well I was once again back in Jakarta for my holiday and relaxation. Fortunately this time around I didn't have any issues with the Immigration, but I did carry my passport with me at all times, even if I was going to KFC / McD's. Ok so my report focuses on three different methods / operations while I was in Jakarta.

As usual I stayed most of the times at the Novotel Gajah Mada and this time I decided to try the old guy and his "ladies", he is always outside the Wendy's near the LTC Glodok mall. He quoted 500 k for ST, so I decided to try it out and as well it would save me the WOS as I am now quite well know at this hotel. So he brought two girls for me to choose from one was cheery and friendly and the other seems as though she was forced to be there, so I choose the friendly girl. All was ok at first light chit-chat etc but time to service she refused to shower. Now for me that a huge turnoff especially not knowing where she just had been. So I told her to leave, no shower no action. Lesson learned, I sent the old man a text but he never replied, so NEVER again.

Second I decided to try the services on WeChat found a few listings and pictures and connected with a small beauty to come to the hotel. Ha, learned another lesson pictures on the Websites are not as the person who may show up. This girl showed up and wouldn't remove her hand from the peep hole for me to se who was outside the door. I should have realized that something was not right but eventually I opened the door and much to my surprise she was a middle age overweight masseur. I would have settled for the massage but that stunt with the peep hole really got me furious and the fact that she didn't look as the picture on the web I told her to leave. At first she wouldn't so I called security but she changed her mind and decided to leave before security showed, gave her taxi fare but she threw it back at me. Oh well next time send the girl in the photo.

Next my adventures in Blok M I am a usual at My Bar so most of the girls and staff know me my sight. But some of the girls that I met were not of quality that I am used to finding at My Bar. Did meet some new girls who at first quoted me 1. 5 M for ST one actually quoted me 2. 5 M for ST and proceeded to tell me that is the standard rate in Blok M.

Of course I knew better when I am quoted such high prices I just can't be bothered as I know one of my usual girl (s) will show up eventually.

Did hop over to Top Gun a few times a lot more availability there but never really hit on any girl in TG, unless I can dance with you and feel your vibe I won't take a girl blindly, as it may turn out to be a bad decision. When I can dance and speak with them up close I can assess their movements.

Well that's it for my July adventure in Jakarta, will return in December.

Smoothy
07-17-17, 06:41
Second I decided to try the services on WeChat found a few listings and pictures and connected with a small beauty to come to the hotel. Ha, learned another lesson pictures on the Websites are not as the person who may show up. This girl showed up and wouldn't remove her hand from the peep hole for me to see who was outside the door. I should have realized that something was not right but eventually I opened the door and much to my surprise she was a middle age overweight masseur. I would have settled for the massage but that stunt with the peep hole really got me furious and the fact that she didn't look as the picture on the web I told her to leave. At first she wouldn't so I called security but she changed her mind and decided to leave before security showed, gave her taxi fare but she threw it back at me. Oh well next time send the girl in the photo.I can't imagine a much worse experience. I've tried wechat many times and only once had an experience nearly that bad. I had some old fat scrag massage me once and she was falling asleep and burping. I threw her out and refused to pay. I don't mind an old fat scrag massaging me sometimes if I just want a good massage. They normally actually do give the best massages. This one was just horrible (although it was 4am, so I can understand her being tired). However, if I had been in your situation, I would have turned your woman away as well up front. Her blocking that peep hole is crap. I'm lucky in that I live in a place where I can hear people coming before they get near my door. I would have been watching her far before she could have covered the peep hole.

If you only look at the profile photo of the wechat user, that means nothing. They just post any photo at all to hook you. If I am hoping for sex or even want to ensure it won't be some scrag (it's nice to have a young cutie to look at), I normally ask them to send me a photo of the actual girl. They will send photos pretty much every time if you ask. If the photo is a glamour shot, I will likely disregard it. If it's a normal photo not photoshopped, it's usually fairly close to what the girl looks like.

Here's a story of a wechat massage chick I had come over recently. I haven't had much luck with the girls on wechat who promote themselves as call girls, but the ones who say there is "no sex" seem to surprise at times. And sex is usually on the table even though they say it isn't at first.

It's around 3 am and I want just a massage. I open Wechat and the normal hundred or so massage places popped to the screen. I send messages to 5 different massage places. The first two that respond are not interesting because one provides heavily edited glamour photos and the other doesn't have photos to send (a clear sign it will be an old fat woman coming). There is one where the photo in their profile is somewhat normal (of course it was not the girl who visited me, but that's ok. Those are just pimps running those profiles, not the girls themselves.). They respond that the price is 250 k for massage only (no sex). I ask to see photos of the girls and I ask for a girl with big tits and young if possible. They send three photos and two of the three look ok. These are simply photos of some normally dressed girls with hardly any makeup sitting on a concrete floor. Nothing stunning, but I pick the one who looks to have the biggest tits. I offer 200 k for that girl to come and give me a massage and they agree. I am tired and not really keen for any action other than massage, but figure if the girl has big tits and young, that might change that.

The girl shows up about a half hour later. It's definitely the girl from the photo. She is a shy girl wearing sloppy jeans and a red t-shirt. It's obvious that she's packing some nice tits under that shirt. She's about 5 foot 5, so fairly tall for an indo girl, and fairly slim other than the tits. She's obviously fairly fresh out of the village because of the way she carries herself. No makeup at all, but she isn't bad looking even without makeup and has a great body, very shag worthy.

We go to the bedroom and I strip naked. She gets on the bed fully clothed and starts massaging me. I start out watching the indonesian dangdut channel on tv and carry on a casual conversation with her in Bahasa Indonesia. What's your name? How old are you? Where are you from originally? How long have you been in Jakarta? Yada yada yada. Occasionally, I let my hands slightly graze her body as she works. When she starts to seem more comfortable with me, I ask her about special massage. At first she says "no mister, cannot". I say ok, but ask again a few minutes later, and still no. Then I changed the TV show and put on a soft porno dvd. Haha. She acts like she isn't watching it, but it's obvious she's interested. Nearing the end of the massage, I ask again about special massage. I tell her that I am a good guy and generous. She says no again. I offer 800 k and then she starts to think about it. She asks for 2 million, but I say again 800 k and that's as high as I will go. She thinks about it a while then agrees to 800 k for full sex rather than the 200 k I was going to pay for just the massage. I would have tipped her 100 k anyway, so it's really only 500 k more than I was already going to pay for just the massage. Off comes the red t-shirt and the sloppy jeans to reveal a fantastic 19 year old body. This chick has awesome tits! She wasn't the best shag in the world, but due to her young firm body and nice tits, it was very nice indeed and a great ending to the massage. She was out the door and I was asleep 5 minutes after she left. I haven't always had such a nice experience with wechat or other phone apps, but you never know.

I have had a lot of guys sending me PMs lately asking me for numbers of girls to send to their room and I have to admit that I have replied to none of them. Unfortunately, due to some past bad experiences, I only provide numbers to guys I have met in person. However, all you need to do is pop open the wechat app or some other similar app and roll the dice. You may find a gem.

I've attached a photo of the massage girl. I had to block her face and edited the background to protect the innocent. But the tits are great in any case.

D Cups
07-17-17, 12:50
Indeed. Thanks, Smoothy. Yes, some of those Indo girls have some great shapes.


But the tits are great in any case.

DubyaMan88
07-20-17, 02:56
Yeah, with a grand total of 18 public posts, that's very believable -- NOT.

Why would anyone even bother asking you for advice over PM with such a thin public posting history?Does it really matter what you care?

JXXXL
07-20-17, 03:38
I like the venues in North Jakarta. That's really the only place I go. I have looked all over the North looking for a decent hotel, probably stayed in 6 different places, but really haven't found anything I liked. The Grand Mercure Harmoni is the best located for what you are after but I found it to be a pretty weak 4 star experience with bad breakfasts. The Pullman at Central Park is better but much further away, however a quick trip to and from the airport. You could always stay at Travel Hotel which is attached to a decent club.

If you have the money I'd stay near Plaza Indonesia at the Pullman, the Grand Hyatt, or one of the several other hotels. Lots of great restaurants and other things in that area. Make your peace with the traffic by getting a good data plan and spring for a couple of Silver Bird Innova vans that will have you all riding comfortably from the better hotels to the good north Jakarta venues. The place that is a bicth to get to are clubs around Kings Cross and Sumo. But definitely worth a trip, IMO, just go late or early to avoid peak traffic.

Sounds like a good time. Enjoy!Thanks SB, great info.

Menteng
07-20-17, 10:54
Does it really matter what you care?He speaks for those who take your words with a pinch of salt.

OldSnake
07-20-17, 23:24
Hi,

Been reading the Jakarta forum for a while now as I am planning in a month or 2 lately there hadn't been many post. Are mongers on leave?? Also how is the mayor doing about closing P4P shops? Any info just curious as I like indo better than Thai as they are too commercial.

Smoothy
07-21-17, 16:50
Hi,

Been reading the Jakarta forum for a while now as I am planning in a month or 2 lately there hadn't been many post. Are mongers on leave?? Also how is the mayor doing about closing P4P shops? Any info just curious as I like indo better than Thai as they are too commercial.Nothing has changed, nothing has closed.

ConquerorVal
07-21-17, 18:30
Just returned from Jakarta last night, and I have to say there are many opportunities for a monger. My first visit was to the Hotel Classic on the second floor. Quite a few nice looking young and thin girls. Was greeted by a mamasan who offered me a shapely 22 year old girl, that I liked but I took time to decide. I have to admit I felt out of place, as the girls did not appear to be very keen on a middle aged bule, but my primary directive was to get laid so I had to not to take it personally. I thought the mamasans were totally useless, and the girls were not interested in me. Indonesia, to a white middle aged monger is so different from my Philippines or Thailand experiences. I spend some time with another girl that changed her mind after I got her a beer, and another I heard say no bule. Fuck it, so I decided to go with the original girl and after much debate about CBJ vs BBJ she agreed to the latter. Really nice body, no GFE, no English, no kissing, but a decent fuck. For 325,000 rupiah I cannot complain. I would return whether they like it or not haha.

My last night in Indonesia I spent at the Orchidz Hotel (Jalan Industri). The hotel is not bad at all and an excellent value. I checked out the Glamour Spa and Massage on the third floor, and it felt very much like the experience I had in mainland China. After three weeks on the Java island, being the only bule was a standard experience for me by now. Really nice looking girls handing out the numbered bracelets and assigning a girl. When the girl was ready the lovely attendant took me to the service provider, namely Sita #12. A nice 20 year old spinner, that provided a surprisingly thorough and good massage. Sita had a nice body, and complained about the size of my member, which for some inexplicable reason fit just fine into her lovely pussy. Again, no GFE, no kissing, watching TV, no bbj. After spending a good time with me and unable to cum she took off my condom and provided a bbj with a successful outcome. The damage was 725,000 rupiah.

Smoothy
07-21-17, 18:46
the girls were not interested in me. Indonesia, to a white middle aged monger is so different from my Philippines or Thailand experiences. I spend some time with another girl that changed her mind after I got her a beer, and another I heard say no bule. You think Indo girls don't like white middle aged guys? You are generalizing based on your experiences at two places in an area where they cater to locals and Chinese. I also do not have good experiences in those places even though I speak Indonesian. Try going to places where white guys hang out and the girls can speak English. My bet is that your perspective will change. The level of service and GFE with those type of girls in Indonesia is fantastic. If I have white friends visiting Jakarta, I never recommend places like Hotel Classic or Orchardz Industri. I recommend places like CJs, ,BATS, and Top Gun. I don't even recommend that they stay in North Jakarta. It's a crap hole. However, you will have to pay more for girls who can speak English. If you are looking for a dirt cheap price like you paid at Classic, you aren't going to find many girls who are interested in white middle aged men. In BATS at Hotel Shangri-La, the girl's panties get wet when they see guys like that walk in.

ConquerorVal
07-21-17, 18:59
I was hoping that my report did not come out as a generalization, but as a personal experience. I always try to avoid generalization, and my limited observations were meant to be only a reflection of what happened to me. I had restricted freedom of movement and time to venture out, and this affected my choices. Indeed I will come back and visit Block M, and the other two places you mentioned. Where do you recommend your friends to stay. Hope to be back in February.


You think Indo girls don't like white middle aged guys? You are generalizing based on your experiences at two places in an area where they cater to locals and Chinese. I also do not have good experiences in those places even though I speak Indonesian. Try going to places where white guys hang out and the girls can speak English. My bet is that your perspective will change. The level of service and GFE with those type of girls in Indonesia is fantastic. If I have white friends visiting Jakarta, I never recommend places like Hotel Classic or Orchardz Industri. I recommend places like CJs, ,BATS, and Top Gun. I don't even recommend that they stay in North Jakarta. It's a crap hole. However, you will have to pay more. If you are looking for a dirt cheap price like you paid at Classic, you aren't going to find girls who are interested in white middle aged men.

Smoothy
07-21-17, 20:59
What's your budget? I recommend The Grove Suites, but it's close to $100 usd a night. The best place to stay for mongering at CJs is Hotel Mulia and for BATS at Shangri-La, but both of those are about $200 usd a night. There are cheaper options in blok m if that's the way you want to go. You can find them on Agoda.

Kodja
07-22-17, 02:15
Last week I was in Jakarta for just over a week and I visited a few places in my favorite area to the north.

Saturday night I was meant to meet up with a colleague at Malio bar but he bailed on me at the last minute so I went in there alone about 9:00 PM.

Entrance fee for Maliboro is Rp130 K but this is deducted off your final bill so it's sort of a minimum charge to keep out the "tyre kickers."

I planned to go to the bar first at the back but decided to go to the lounges on the second floor directly above the lobby.

There are two rooms there, one is a smaller lounge with a live band and the other opposite it is a much larger room with a stage and dancers, a bar, mamasans with some import wanita and on a sunken floor to the left are couches with local wanita.

I had a long discussion with a rather young and attractive mamamsan. She told me she was 38.

Prices quoted were imports starting at Rp1. 4 mil and locals Rp1. 1 mil. Some dancers were also available at a price of Rp1. 7 mil. One of the cutest dancers told me that not all the dancers will ML but she was keen if I was interested. The dancer tried to sell me " lady drinks" for Rp50 K and I asked her how much she gets from the Rp50 K and she said only Rp10 K. I said instead of buying her a lady drink I'd tip her Rp50 K directly which she accepted enthusiastically and asked me to put the cash in her panties at the front where she held my hand hard up against her pussy inside the panties for a short time and let me play with her tits. All the dancers were wearing bikinis and took turns dancing and stripping on the stage through the evening.

I asked the mamasan if she herself was available and with a laugh she wrote down Rp3. Mil. On a paper napkin.

Finally I said to the mamasan I'd take one of the local girls so she took me down to sunken floor to chose from the whole lot as I didn't want a parade on the higher level.

Most of the wanita looked bored and were playing on their phones, the mamasan suggested I take a particular one but I have always felt that the one they try to push on you are the least popular ones and the mamasans are trying to share the business around with them all. The one she chose was like a '6' anyway.

One cutie was sitting by herself and laughing at her phone. I chose her as she looked the least bored. She told me later she was laughing as she was looking at a funny video.

Her name was Lina from Central Java and I hit the jackpot. Really cute, beautiful body and she gave me the perfect GFE. I tipped her Rp200 K she was that good.

She gave me her phone number as so did the mamasan.

I then went over to Malio bar second level for a look and the first thing I noticed was it was so noisy compared to the lounge I'd just been in. Several dancers approached me for lady drinks but I declined and shortly after I left and returned to my hotel nearby.

Kodja
07-22-17, 02:18
I'm hoping to get some advice from the esteemed members on an upcoming trip to Jakarta.

I'm planning a golf trip with a group of about 10 guys. *One thing I'm grappling with is whether to stay in central or north Jakarta. *I've stayed in central Jakarta many times and done BATS and*CJ's as have some of the group. *I'm thinking I'd like to try Alexis, Malio and maybe some clubs and I heard there are some good ones in north Jakarta. *I'd also like to avoid the sausage fest at CJ's, and with 10 guys, we'd only be adding to it.

Do any of you guys have any thoughts on staying strictly in north Jakarta and the options. *I've read a lot of posts on Alexis and Malio and it sounds like you could make an entire night at either of those places, albeit and expensive one. *.I really enjoy North Jakarta over the other places you have mentioned. I was just there a week ago and will post some field reports over the next few days.

ConquerorVal
07-22-17, 07:01
Thank you Smoothy. During my next visit I will be coming alone, and the Grove Suites, sounds good to me. I like to stay in mid range places. Shangri-La is a little too rich for me, unless, the Canadian Dollar is at par with the USA Greenback, which is highly unlikely.


What's your budget? I recommend The Grove Suites, but it's close to $100 usd a night. The best place to stay for mongering at CJs is Hotel Mulia and for BATS at Shangri-La, but both of those are about $200 usd a night. There are cheaper options in blok m if that's the way you want to go. You can find them on Agoda.

Turgid
07-22-17, 11:15
Just returned from Jakarta last night, and I have to say there are many opportunities for a monger. My first visit was to the Hotel Classic on the second floor. Quite a few nice looking young and thin girls. Was greeted by a mamasan who offered me a shapely 22 year old girl, that I liked but I took time to decide. I have to admit I felt out of place, as the girls did not appear to be very keen on a middle aged bule, but my primary directive was to get laid so I had to not to take it personally. I thought the mamasans were totally useless, and the girls were not interested in me. Indonesia, to a white middle aged monger is so different from my Philippines or Thailand experiences. I spend some time with another girl that changed her mind after I got her a beer, and another I heard say no bule. Fuck it, so I decided to go with the original girl and after much debate about CBJ vs BBJ she agreed to the latter. Really nice body, no GFE, no English, no kissing, but a decent fuck. For 325,000 rupiah I cannot complain. I would return whether they like it or not haha.

My last night in Indonesia I spent at the Orchidz Hotel (Jalan Industri). The hotel is not bad at all and an excellent value. I checked out the Glamour Spa and Massage on the third floor, and it felt very much like the experience I had in mainland China. After three weeks on the Java island, being the only bule was a standard experience for me by now. Really nice looking girls handing out the numbered bracelets and assigning a girl. When the girl was ready the lovely attendant took me to the service provider, namely Sita #12. A nice 20 year old spinner, that provided a surprisingly thorough and good massage. Sita had a nice body, and complained about the size of my member, which for some inexplicable reason fit just fine into her lovely pussy. Again, no GFE, no kissing, watching TV, no bbj. After spending a good time with me and unable to cum she took off my condom and provided a bbj with a successful outcome. The damage was 725,000 rupiah.Great report. Well, all's well that ends well.

Kodja
07-23-17, 09:46
Late Sunday afternoon I decided to visit one of my old haunts. I've been going back to Kartika full body soapy massage for over 15 years. The last time I was there in December I felt that I may never visit again as the place was starting to depress me with the quality on offer but there's something about this place my local friends call "rough riders" that always pulls me back.

As I walked down the lane beside the Suisse bakery on the corner of Jalan Hayam Wuruk I first passed Royal Mas massage and was persuaded to go inside and have look by a papason how was outside the door. I've been going to Kartika for so many years and I've never looked at these other places and they are practically next door. I went inside the Royal Mas and exited within 30 seconds. It looked dark and drab inside with not a decent looking wanita in sight. The reason I got out so quickly was it was full of cigarette smoke and I couldn't breathe. I was quoted Rp200 K for ++ massage in there but it was awful so I moved on.

The next place I came to was Berlian massage. Another papasan encouraged me to go inside and have a look, he also was quoting only Rp200 K and he also told me there was no smoking in there. He forgot to tell me about the loud music! The woman in there looked no better than Royal Mas so I left rather quickly and proceeded walking the extra distance to the end where Kartika was located.

There are no papasans outside Kartika. I have never seen once there.

Once inside Kartika I felt at home. No loud music or stale cigarette smoke. All one hears is calls of Hello, mister!

The woman in Kartika are a mixed bunch. Some are older and not so pretty but there often are a few nuggets in there if you look around long enough.

I chose a 170 cm tall Sumatran wanita about 27 years old. She had a gorgeous body and long legs. Ratna was her name. She said she was new there. I paid the Rp370 K and went upstairs. She was really good. I thoroughly enjoyed the session and tipped her Rp100 K I'd give her a 8 for her looks, body and performance. I liked her so much I returned there for another session with her two days later. The second session was even better.

After my session I dropped into that Suisse bakery on the corner for some of the best kroket ayam (Chicken croquettes) I've ever tasted. They had just come out of the oven.

Grebe925
07-24-17, 02:34
If you have the money I'd stay near Plaza Indonesia at the Pullman, the Grand Hyatt, or one of the several other hotels. Lots of great restaurants and other things in that area. Make your peace with the traffic by getting a good data plan and spring for a couple of Silver Bird Innova vans that will have you all riding comfortably from the better hotels to the good north Jakarta venues. The place that is a bicth to get to are clubs around Kings Cross and Sumo. But definitely worth a trip, IMO, just go late or early to avoid peak traffic..I'm going to be in Jakarta for two nights in mid-August. I will be staying at the Grand Hyatt and plan on hitting Malioboro / Malio one night and Alexis on the other, so what would be the best time to visit? As for the taxis, do you simply hail these vans or do you have to book them in advance? How about getting a taxi from these clubs on return late in the night?

Thanks in advance.

Grebe925
07-24-17, 05:11
.....Probably taking the one hot Uzbek was not a good idea, and I had my reservations at the start, but as I said the time in the lounge was quite nice. It was like she had dual personalities that were determined by what floor she was on.When in Rome, do as the Romans do. That's why I don't pick Russians and other CISC chicks in Asia or Orientals in Europe as a rule. Most of them would be at the bottom of a decent FKK lineup but act like prima-donnas because they are exotic to the locals. One of my funniest experiences was a Russian / East European chick covering her number at a Macau spa when I just glanced at her so that I don't pick her (presumably because I am Indian). I started laughing since I have sampled beauties who would run circles around her in Europe and much of the local fare in the lineup was drop-dead gorgeous compared to her, which is what I had come there for anyway.

Smoothy
07-24-17, 06:14
Once inside Kartika I felt at home. No loud music or stale cigarette smoke. All one hears is calls of Hello, mister!I haven't been to Kartika in years, but I have never had a bad experience there. I may try to swing by Kartika and visit Ratna (or whoever catches my eye). At the moment, I've been hooked on that huge titty 19 year old wechat massage girl. I've had her at my place every day for more than a week now. I bought her some makeup and some sexy outfits and she looks great in them. Her body is absolutely killer. She tells me her period will start in about a week. That's when I'll schedule a Kartika run.

ConquerorVal
07-24-17, 07:48
For a newbie to Indonesia, I found this site pretty helpful.

http://www.jakarta100bars.com

Pipe Layer99
07-24-17, 07:57
I was hoping that my report did not come out as a generalization, but as a personal experience. I always try to avoid generalization, and my limited observations were meant to be only a reflection of what happened to me. I had restricted freedom of movement and time to venture out, and this affected my choices. Indeed I will come back and visit Block M, and the other two places you mentioned. Where do you recommend your friends to stay. Hope to be back in February.If you are looking for a mid-range hotel, take a look at the Mercure hotels. You can chose one near the venues you like. There are two up North (I have been to both) and a few in Central. One of them is right across the street from Malioboro and the other is about a 5 min ride up the same street. Both are near Classic. Then if you want to go to one of the clubs in the evening like Cjs or the bars in blok m, the traffic will be a lot less traffic. Alternatively, there are a few more of these hotels in central Jakarta if you plan to spend more time in that area. Last trip I paid about $46 USD / 610 k IDR per night. The more expensive ones were about $79 USD / 1 M IDR. Enjoy.

Smoothy
07-24-17, 08:20
If you are looking for a mid-range hotel, take a look at the Mercure hotels.Those are good and have been recommended on this forum more than any other hotel in North Jakarta over the years, but the Harris vertu hotel harmoni is brand friggin new as of this year. You may want to consider the Harris if I was staying in that area (north Jakarta). Another good hotel very near to Hotel Classic is the Red Top. I don't like to stay in North Jakarta because I like to take free lancers more than go to brothels. South Jakarta free lancers aren't normally too keen about heading up to North Jakarta. But if the North Jakarta brothels are what you want, then stay in North Jakarta. The good thing about the Mercure hotels relative to the Harris is that they are a straight shot down Sudirman. They are a bit more expensive than the Harris though.

Kodja
07-24-17, 13:10
I haven't been to Kartika in years, but I have never had a bad experience there. I may try to swing by Kartika and visit Ratna (or whoever catches my eye). At the moment, I've been hooked on that huge titty 19 year old wechat massage girl. I've had her at my place every day for more than a week now. I bought her some makeup and some sexy outfits and she looks great in them. Her body is absolutely killer. She tells me her period will start in about a week. That's when I'll schedule a Kartika run.Ratna's tits are no where as big as those semangkas!

Kerrstar
07-24-17, 14:38
Thank you Smoothy. During my next visit I will be coming alone, and the Grove Suites, sounds good to me. I like to stay in mid range places. Shangri-La is a little too rich for me, unless, the Canadian Dollar is at par with the USA Greenback, which is highly unlikely.I've stayed at the Grandhika Iskandarsyah which is within walking distance of Blok M. I've also stayed quite a bit at the Grand kemang. It's near Easter Promise which is full of FL's on Friday and Saturday and it's only a 10 minute taxi to blok M, unless it's raining, then it could be an hour. Quite a few other hotels in Kemang as well of various proices. Quite a lot of bars and restuarants there to, plus a couple of good supermarkets.

Muzungufotsy
07-24-17, 16:48
Unless it has suddenly changed I've never seen 1 girl I the like to fuck in Kartika.

I the love to see a pic of this Ratna who s said to have a gorgeous body.

Smoothy
07-25-17, 04:36
Unless it has suddenly changed I've never seen 1 girl I the like to fuck in Kartika.

I the love to see a pic of this Ratna who s said to have a gorgeous body.Yes, Kartika can be difficult. The times I have been to Kartika, there are very few nice girls there. However, there are a few. I haven't been to Kartika in a while, but I used to go there at times just to get the name of a nice girl, then return later to book her and try her out. The nice girls are normally busy upstairs when I arrive. If I don't see any nice girls when I first arrive (which is the norm), I sit down and have a drink waiting to see the girls come down from upstairs. Every time I have been there, I have seen a nice one come down from upstairs. Unfortunately, normally she is already booked by another guy and goes straight back up, but I get her name for next time in that case. If she does happen to be available, I will grab her and head upstairs with her. If not, I'll hang out a while longer in case another hotty comes downstairs. After I have a name or two, if I didn't get a chance to go upstairs with one, I leave and come back another day to book the nice girl (s).

Kartika is the only true soapy massage in town as far as I know. They used to have them at Oasis, but it wasn't as good. If you can find a good girl at Kartika, it's a very nice experience. And if you can find 2 good ones for the double up massage, it's heaven. Although I would never recommend 2 girls at a place like Hotel Classic, two girls at Kartika is something every guy should try if possible. It's really a unique experience. It's magical. I really don't get how those girls pull that oreo cookie type of move off where one is on top and one is underneath sliding back and forth. I would think the girl on the bottom would be crushed, but they never complain. They don't even have that double oreo cookie move soapy in Bangkok as far as I know.

As far as seeing a photo of the girl, I'd love to see a photo of every girl ever discussed on the forum.

Ryo Saeba
07-27-17, 22:42
Esteemed brothers,
this August I will be visiting Jakarta again for the the first time since 2009.
I duly RTFF, last full year and a half of it in fact, but of course I have a couple of questions left.
You can count on me posting detailed reports afterwards, as I've always done for all my mongering travels.

ANAL SEX
I've read some post that describe Jakarta / Indonesia as the best bet in Asia to get anal sex, and yet I counted only a few instances where anal was described as having happened.
So my question is (regarding spa / brothels in particular): does it simply depend on the luck of finding the right girl, or is it something I can maybe discuss with the mamasans while making my choice? I wouldn't mind paying a little extra if that's what it takes.

ARRANGING WITH SPA/BROTHEL GIRLS TO MEET OUTSIDE
As much as I like variety, it happens to all of us to find a girl we particularly like and click with, and which we'd like to see again.
There are post that say the girls simply don't have enough time with the long hours they work inside, posts where it was just casually mentioned that people did it, others again that listed prices too.
Again, is it down to luck, or maybe some venues are more recommended for this than others?

Thanks,
Ryo

Smoothy
07-28-17, 03:42
I went to the pharmacy yesterday and they tell me there is a new law that a prescription is needed for any antibiotics now. Who has the time to go to the doctor to get a prescription? Does anyone know a place still selling over the counter antibiotics?

Tf Eight
07-28-17, 20:59
I will be in Jakarta in two weeks time for about a week.

My previous experience, and recent reading of this forum suggest me following:

1. I shall be staying at Central Jakarta, so that I have easy access to both South and North Jakarta.

2. My previous visits to Classic and Travel were encouraging, so would repeat them.

3. Block M is kept for one evening, though recent reports on M is not that encouraging.

4. BATS and CJ are on the list for one evening to sample out.

5. Kartika is on the list for an afternoon, someone suggested for a sandwich massage.

6. WeChat and other mobile apps are options for FL and day time fun, though my luck in this aspect was never good here.

Just curious to know the latest about the FL situation at around Sarinah and McDonalds joint.

Anybody interested to meet up for a beer and venturing together would be possible too.

T. F. E.

Kodja
07-29-17, 11:16
On my first day I went to Maliboro and after flirting with a youngish mamasan in the second floor lounge we exchanged phone numbers and the following the day the phone never stopped ringing.

It wasn't until the following day I decided to answer the phone. She said she finished work at 7:00 PM and wanted to know if we could hang out so I invited her to join me for dinner in nearby Pencenongan area. Well known for the restaurants.

After dinner she insisted we visit a Karaoke bar in Mangga dua so we spent a couple of hours there and she had a few beers and became extremely amorous.

Next thing I know she organized a GRAB car and we were back in my hotel room. She showered and jumped in the bed and went to work. I reckon she gave me one of the most enthusiastic blow jobs and sex I've had for along time.

I gave her 600 K but she wanted a lot more. Although I enjoyed this quite unexpected experience it's going to be a "one off" for me.

Smoothy
07-29-17, 14:55
Just curious to know the latest about the FL situation at around Sarinah and McDonalds joint.That was a great pickup spot 20 years ago when Tanamur was in full force. Late at night, that place always had girls ending their night from Tanamur / JJs, or Hard Rock Cafe. Now, it's not really a pickup spot for FL anymore. I'm not saying it's not possible because it's possible to pick up girls anywhere in town, but it's not an especially good place to expect pickups.

Kodja
07-30-17, 11:58
That was a great pickup spot 20 years ago when Tanamur was in full force. .Tanamur. That's a blast from the past. I went there so many years ago and I ahd to go to that address now I wouldn't know where it was located. I also remember a place in Block M called hotel Tambora. What happened to those places?

Fast Eddie 48
08-01-17, 01:14
I went to the pharmacy yesterday and they tell me there is a new law that a prescription is needed for any antibiotics now. Who has the time to go to the doctor to get a prescription? Does anyone know a place still selling over the counter antibiotics?To Smoothy.

It is always difficult to get antibiotics and any prescription drug in Indonesia government are very strict about generic drug and it is expensive, I always get my antibiotics in Thailand and China where generic drug are easy to get and cheap.

Fast Eddie 48.

G Haribo
08-01-17, 07:19
I have been travelling around South East Asia, going to Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, Ho Chi Minh and Jakarta for the past 10 days and thanks to the contributions of the members, I have been able to experience the best of each city. I will post a report for each country, but overall, I would say that Bangkok is still the best of all in terms of quality, quantity, availability and value. You can find for every type of taste from low cost to luxury. Vietnam has maybe the prettiest girls, but it is not that easy to find a full service and cost can be high. In Kuala Lumpur, a lot of massages / spa around, easy to find with girls from most of South East Asian countries available: local, Indonesia, Thai, Viet, Cambodia and Lao. Cost is around 250 RM in average for 45-60 min, but as I'm more toward the high end, I have not found a real good quality massage place so far in KL. Jakarta surprisingly has a lot to offer on the high end, with several big complex available, and Indonesian girls can be very wild on bed.

I just spent 2 superb days in Jakarta, and were most of the evenings at the Alexis hotel. It's completely in the North of Jakarta and all taxis know this hotel.

This complex has a lot to offer, with the bar / club / strip dancers on 1st floor, which opens at 10 pm til very late, 2nd floor is a restaurant, 3rd floor a karaoke, 5th floor is for massage and 7th floor is the VIP Spa where you can get full service with a choice of Indonesian, Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese, Russian. On one side, it has a hot swimming pool with light, medium and hot temperature, a spa room, chairs where you can relax. Locker rooms, shower, with boxers, towels and amenities are provided. It's really luxury. On the other side, you have the bar, with chairs, sofa where you can order a drink or food and relax, while selecting your lady. Every time I went there, there were at least 50 girls to choose from, grouped in each corner by nationality, with the Indonesian girls being by far the most numerous, followed by the Vietnamese, then Thai, Russian and Chinese (only 2 when I was there).

Entrance fee is 150 k Rupiah, which you only pay at the end, but this is only if you decide not to spend anything while inside. Otherwise, it is part of the total.

Prices for the girls have increased significantly: Indonesian girls are now at 1. 45 Mil Rupiah and all other import girls are at 2. 45 Mil Rupiah. But most of the girls were pretty to very pretty with nice body. All girls I had did not have silicon boobs, but maybe I was lucky. So you really pay for the quality!

The price includes the Spa / swimming pool, where the girl spends 30 min with you in the hot swimming pool, taking good care of you, giving you massage and rubbing her body against you. Then 60 minutes in the room, where you get full service. Rooms are big, nice, very clean with TV, music. There is also a tip for the girl of around 300 k to 500 k expected at the end of the session, depending on the service level.

After the end of the session, you can go an enjoy the swimming pool as much as you want, or just go to the bar and order a drink while watching the girls.

I tried the Indonesians and Chinese, and I would say that each time, I was very satisfied with the level of service. Girls treats you like a real boyfriend, and they have all been well trained in taking good care of you from the beginning, until you unload. I did not do the Thai, as I was in Bangkok several days ago, and the Russian did not look happy, so I decided not to go for it.

I have been in mongering in several countries, and I rate Alexis hotel 7th floor quite high, if you are looking for quality with good service, and don't want to spend time searching or seducing the girl, I highly recommend Alexis hotel. Obviously, it is a bit pricey, but much cheaper than Macau. Enjoy!

Christian G
08-01-17, 08:40
ANAL SEX
I've read some post that describe Jakarta / Indonesia as the best bet in Asia to get anal sex, and yet I counted only a few instances where anal was described as having happened.
So my question is (regarding spa / brothels in particular): does it simply depend on the luck of finding the right girl, or is it something I can maybe discuss with the mamasans while making my choice? I wouldn't mind paying a little extra if that's what it takes.I hope the experts will answer to you, because I'm curious too about this question. I remember sometimes ago someone asking if there is any place in Jakarta with guaranteed Anal service like Tulip or Snow White in Bangkok, and the asnwer was no. So hoping in some good advice for anal in Jakarta.

Kerrstar
08-01-17, 08:51
I hope the experts will answer to you, because I'm curious too about this question. I remember sometimes ago someone asking if there is any place in Jakarta with guaranteed Anal service like Tulip or Snow White in Bangkok, and the asnwer was no. So hoping in some good advice for anal in Jakarta.From my experience you are probably only going to get maybe 40% of the girls out ther who are up for anal. I don't frequent North Jakarta so my pool of talent is smaller. I've read that some people have had very high success with anal but that hasn't been my experience. I've asked and generally got a firm no. I didn't push after that so I can't say if they would have relented or not. YMMV.

Smoothy
08-01-17, 12:07
From my experience you are probably only going to get maybe 40% of the girls out ther who are up for anal.I think it's closer to 4%.

Melman111
08-01-17, 12:16
I think it's closer to 4%.I took few girls from BATS and three offered anal. I can say Indo girls (if they like anal) they really enjoy. All three really enjoyed and done repeatedly. I can say all or 40% like but some may agree or like.

Smoothy
08-01-17, 12:32
I took few girls from BATS and three offered anal. I can say Indo girls (if they like anal) they really enjoy. All three really enjoyed and done repeatedly. I can say all or 40% like but some may agree or like.I do agree that if you want anal, BATS and CJs are your best places to have a chance. When you are paying a girl 2 million rupiah for a short time, she is much more likely to agree to anal than a girl getting a 100 k cut in a brothel. I agree that 40% of BATS and CJs (or even higher) girls would agree to anal. But overall in Indonesia, I'd guess 4% is more likely the average. I find that if I am paying a CJs or BATS girl 2 million rupiah, they are agreeable to basically anything I want. When I negotiate them down to 1 million, they are much less likely to agree to anything I want. CJs and BATS girls are also about 10 years or more older than the girls in the brothels. It seems the older girls are more willing to go for anal.

Kerrstar
08-01-17, 12:43
I think it's closer to 4%.I based my number on my experience, but I'd say it wouldn't be higher than that. There were a few I just didn't ask as well, so I excluded them. That would reduce the number. I've read posts where people say the girls always offer, but that I find hard to believe.

Kerrstar
08-01-17, 12:46
I do agree that if you want anal, BATS and CJs are your best places to have a chance. When you are paying a girl 2 million rupiah for a short time, she is much more likely to agree to anal than a girl getting a 100 k cut in a brothel. I agree that 40% of BATS and CJs (or even higher) girls would agree to anal. But overall in Indonesia, I'd guess 4% is more likely the average. I find that if I am paying a CJs or BATS girl 2 million rupiah, they are agreeable to basically anything I want. When I negotiate them down to 1 million, they are much less likely to agree to anything I want. CJs and BATS girls are also about 10 years or more older than the girls in the brothels. It seems the older girls are more willing to go for anal.I paid 1 million for a girl from Dee's place in Block M who did anal. Picked up a few from Eastern Promise and they were straight out 'no'.

Offshore Swell
08-01-17, 14:56
I do agree that if you want anal, BATS and CJs are your best places to have a chance. When you are paying a girl 2 million rupiah for a short time, she is much more likely to agree to anal than a girl getting a 100 k cut in a brothel. I agree that 40% of BATS and CJs (or even higher) girls would agree to anal. But overall in Indonesia, I'd guess 4% is more likely the average. I find that if I am paying a CJs or BATS girl 2 million rupiah, they are agreeable to basically anything I want. When I negotiate them down to 1 million, they are much less likely to agree to anything I want. CJs and BATS girls are also about 10 years or more older than the girls in the brothels. It seems the older girls are more willing to go for anal.Unfortunately the larger the size, the less likely that 40 kg sweetie is going to let you put it in 'there'.

As a lateral solution to achieving your aims maybe the competition theory can help you achieve your anal targets.

OS had a memorable night with young two sweeties from favourite brothel complex just last year who had come for "boking luar' back to hotel, A great time was had by all while enjoying some chemically enhanced grooving. OS decided to try one finger in "lubang yang satu" while moving his big thing in and out. Upon enquiry she confirmed that this was no problem so OS inserted finger number two, subsequent enquiries confirmed still no problem. OS then took advantage of her co-operative nature and slowly inserted his big thing all the way into the anus of this little 19 yo while her friend laid watching, blissing out with the music.

Pretty soon OS's big thing was sliding in and out like it had been built for this purpose and she was wiggling her bottom away with the music and enjoying life. OS was thinking 'got to remember this moment'. After a while her friend wanted OS to pay her some attention so a quick wash and OS resumed his duties.

Funnily enough I took this girl a second time a month later on her own and she wouldn't let me do her bum. Said it hurts. How does that work?

I just have to wonder whether she was playing a game of brinkmanship with her friend that night, but of course OS is always happy to help whatever the purpose.

Enjoy. OS.

OwnAgeSex
08-01-17, 16:23
Well I was once again back in Jakarta for my holiday and relaxation. Fortunately this time around I didn't have any issues with the Immigration, but I did carry my passport with me at all times, even if I was going to KFC / McD's. Ok so my report focuses on three different methods / operations while I was in Jakarta.

As usual I stayed most of the times at the Novotel Gajah Mada and this time I decided to try the old guy and his "ladies", he is always outside the Wendy's near the LTC Glodok mall. He quoted 500 k for ST, so I decided to try it out and as well it would save me the WOS as I am now quite well know at this hotel. So he brought two girls for me to choose from one was cheery and friendly and the other seems as though she was forced to be there, so I choose the friendly girl. All was ok at first light chit-chat etc but time to service she refused to shower. Now for me that a huge turnoff especially not knowing where she just had been. So I told her to leave, no shower no action. Lesson learned, I sent the old man a text but he never replied, so NEVER again..What's the standard rate in Blok M now?

Kerrstar
08-01-17, 17:05
What's the standard rate in Blok M now?I paid 1 million earlier in the year which was what she quoted. That was a girl from Dee's place, a bar across from Top Gun. I didn't try to haggle her down, I just couldn't be bothered at the time and the price wasn't too expensive anyway.

Koperen Klaas
08-02-17, 05:30
Tanamur. That's a blast from the past. I went there so many years ago and I ahd to go to that address now I wouldn't know where it was located. I also remember a place in Block M called hotel Tambora. What happened to those places?Tambora mysteriously burned down after all valuables had been removed. Tanamur went bankrupt according to my sources.

Smoothy
08-02-17, 06:35
What's the standard rate in Blok M now?Between 500 k and 1 million depending on the quality of the girl and how many guys are there that night. If I had to pick a "standard" price, I'd say 800 k.

Smoothy
08-02-17, 07:01
Unfortunately the larger the size, the less likely that 40 kg sweetie is going to let you put it in 'there'.Good point. Guys with smaller dicks will have more possibility of the girl's agreeing to anal. But hell, I think that even applies to vaginal sex.

OwnAgeSex
08-02-17, 12:53
Between 500 k and 1 million depending on the quality of the girl and how many guys are there that night. If I had to pick a "standard" price, I'd say 800 k.This rate is for LT or ST?

Kerrstar
08-03-17, 04:54
This rate is for LT or ST?For ST, however if the girls live far away they may do LT for the same if it's late and your hotel is nice.

Pipe Layer99
08-03-17, 13:28
For ST, however if the girls live far away they may do LT for the same if it's late and your hotel is nice.


This rate is for LT or ST?That's not the ST rate. IMO, ST rate at Dees Place for example, should only be about 500 k IDR.

Keep in mind, you can also get LT for 500 and up. Depends on you, and your negotiating skills. 1 to 2 years ago I took a girl from Dees to my hotel for LT for 350 k IDR. The next day, being a nice guy, I gave her a little more to get home. After all, it was only 350 k for all night. Two days later she was texting me asking to meet again. So my max at Dees would be 7-800 k. Depends on the girl, the chemistry, and how much I like her.

This is just my opinion, if I had to put a number on it. I would say ST for a lady at Dees place would only be about 500 k. LT would be 700 k or 800 k.

There was a time when you have the girl right there in the back. Don't know if that's still going on.
In any case, no sense in taking a girl from Dees back to your hotel for 1 m for ST. You can get a better girl at CJs or Bats for 1. 2 m.
I'm not knocking Dees. I had a great time there. But 1 m at that place is high.

Smoothy
08-04-17, 08:18
You can get a better girl at CJs or Bats for 1. 2 m.I think this is a bit misleading. I consider myself a fairly decent negotiator. However, (except for extremely rare occasions) when I offer the hot girls there 1. 2 m, they flat out refuse (a mediocre girl will accept that). 1. 5 to 2 million is the going rate there for a hot girl. On a busy night, sometimes the hottest ones even demand 2. 5 short time there. Kudos to you if you are getting the hottest girls at those places for 1. 2, but I find it hard to believe unless perhaps you are quite a handsome young guy. Then again, if you are just saying you can get a mediocre level girl for 1.2 at CJs or BATS and that would be better than any girl from D's, I do agree with that.

As far as D's, I think your prices are spot on. But in reality, the D's place girls are not very hot. I've only taken one girl home from D's in the last 10 years simply because they aren't hot enough to take home relative to what's available in Jakarta. It's a great place to grab a drink and have a good chat, but as far as stunning girls, that ain't the place to find them. Anjani is pretty hot and that one dancer Karel takes home isn't bad, but overall the talent level is low. Top Gun and My Bar do have a couple of hotties on occasion, but D's place is more just a hang out spot without hotties.

D's does have the back VIP room open still. It's mainly used by married guys in town who can't take the girls home.

Kerrstar
08-04-17, 09:51
As far as D's, I think your prices are spot on. But in reality, the D's place girls are not very hot. I've only taken one girl home from D's in the last 10 years simply because they aren't hot enough to take home relative to what's available in Jakarta. It's a great place to grab a drink and have a good chat, but as far as stunning girls, that ain't the place to find them. Anjani is pretty hot and that one dancer Karel takes home isn't bad, but overall the talent level is low. Top Gun and My Bar do have a couple of hotties on occasion, but D's place is more just a hang out spot without hotties.
I used to go to the's mainly just to have a few beers. As you pointed out, it rarely got hot girls in there but I was there one night and they had a few new dancers that were tasty and several freelancers as well. The girl I gave 1 million to was one who's number I got and met up with her another night. She was my type, I like them thin. I was only in Jakarta for a few days at a time so I wasn't going out every night. Paying a bit extra for one I thoughgt was tasty was worth it for my. I don't like Top Gun that much these days but that's more to do with the music being too loud. I had a regular hook up in Jakarta for the weekend and I gave her 600 k plus bought her dinner. That was LT. I didn't meet her at the's, it was the upstairs bar a door or two down, can't remember the name.

I wouldn't call the's place a haven of young talent but it's a nice place to hav a few beers.

Smoothy
08-04-17, 12:30
I don't like Top Gun that much these days.Well, then you probably won't be too upset to hear that they are supposedly closing Top Gun down in 2 weeks. At least that's the word on the street.

Without Top Gun, I won't visit the Blok at all.

Kerrstar
08-04-17, 14:14
Without Top Gun, I won't visit the Blok at all.I'd be surprised that any of the bars last more than another year or so. With the metro going in, that area should become hot property. I'd be surprised if a office building or condo doesn't go up there in a few years, if not earlier.

UsPete
08-04-17, 16:50
Well, then you probably won't be too upset to hear that they are supposedly closing Top Gun down in 2 weeks. At least that's the word on the street.

Without Top Gun, I won't visit the Blok at all.I liked TopGun when they had the girl free restaurant at the back. Fantastic Chicken in a basket along with a big TV showing CNN live, a real treat for me. One night when I think the shit was going down at Tiananmen Square a crazy rumour was going around that one of the front bar girls was regularly getting RP. 50000 for a shag.

It seemed kind of ridiculous that anyone would pay Rp50 k. So we all decided to chip in money and invite this girl to the back restaurant. She got a special pass to come through. I took a good look at the girl who had broken the glass ceiling. She was a very pretty mixed Manadonese but no way was she worth Rp. 50 k of my hard earned money.

Smoothy
08-04-17, 17:41
I liked TopGun when they had the girl free restaurant at the back. Fantastic Chicken in a basket along with a big TV showing CNN live, a real treat for me. One night when I think the shit was going down at Tiananmen Square a crazy rumour was going around that one of the front bar girls was regularly getting RP. 50000 for a shag.

It seemed kind of ridiculous that anyone would pay Rp50 k. So we all decided to chip in money and invite this girl to the back restaurant. She got a special pass to come through. I took a good look at the girl who had broken the glass ceiling. She was a very pretty mixed Manadonese but no way was she worth Rp. 50 k of my hard earned money.So, given the exchange rate at the time, that was about 30 usd I am guessing. If that was considered high at the time, what was the regular rate? When I first arrived in 1998, the going rate was 200,000 and that was also 30 usd at the exchange rate in 1998. At that time, the girls never even negotiated. And there was no barter over long time or short time. They stayed long time and just accepted 200k in the morning no questions asked.

I liked Top Gun back in those old days as well. Mainly because it started much earlier. I can't say I spent a lot of time in the back room where the girls weren't allowed. However, I could go there at 6 pm and there would be a nice supply of girls already. When D's place and My Bar came onto the scene, things went downhill because you could no longer hit the blok at 6 pm, it didn't get started until at least 10 when those 2 places opened. I loved the days when we could have dinner at Sportys after work, then walk over to Top Gun around 7 and hang out there until about 10. Then go to Oscars at 10 and stay there until about 1. Then head to Lintas Melawai from 1 onwards. It was the perfect setup and absolute bliss.

UsPete
08-04-17, 20:10
So, given the exchange rate at the time, that was about 30 usd I am guessing. If that was considered high at the time, what was the regular rate? When I first arrived in 1998, the going rate was 200,000 and that was also 30 usd at the exchange rate in 1998. At that time, the girls never even negotiated. And there was no barter over long time or short time. They stayed long time and just accepted 200k in the morning no questions asked.

.Sportsmans / TopGun etc. Opening up in the afternoons with their blue collar beer & working class pool ruffled a lot of feathers. The sundowners and old colonials predicted the death of the gin pahit, ceruts & snooker rooms in Paletahan. The last big snooker hall was gone by 1995.

Irish Mary in Proklamasi had a sign on her bar for expats. 1 USD = 1 beer, 10 beers = 1 girl. This general rule applied from the 70's right up to maybe Krismon in the late 90's in Jakarta. The monetary crisis screwed up many businesses and a lot of trash washed ashore.

So this TopGun Nona I mentioned was acquiring a worth of 25 - 30 beers. How much would that be in TopGun nowdays?

Always09
08-05-17, 08:01
Well I have had the best time in Jakarta everytime I am there and this time will not be different. Except for the traffic Jakarta is the best mongering place I have been to.

I have tried Maliboro, Alexis Cj's and Bats. And like any other cities mongering seems to be getting expensive here.

Need some help on the clubs where we could hit on high quality girls. Yes Alexis and Maliboro has them but I am looking more into girls whom I can party with and then get her to my hotel.

I did get one some years back in bats. But these days Bats is where you can pick up easily if you have the budget.

Any expert help from the seasoned mongers would really be helpful.

Thanks.

Goferring
08-05-17, 10:54
When I first arrived in 1998, the going rate was 200,000 and that was also 30 usd at the exchange rate in 1998. At that time, the girls never even negotiated. And there was no barter over long time or short time. They stayed long time and just accepted 200k in the morning no questions asked.Smoothly,

You Jakarta guys always ruined the market. LOL.

At that time the price in regional mining areas was 100 k for professional girls direct from the brothels. Weekend rates where for a little more, say 120 k, where you collected the girl after work on Friday and dropped her off before work on Monday morning. But you had to feed her. They would tolerate being short changed but all hell would break loose if food was not included!

LT dominated the market but there was an enterprising lass that specialized in taking on all comers for ST in the pickup tray in the car park. I was told it was a package deal of 5 guys for 100 k.

Prices remained at those levels for quite a few years but the ratcheted up and the concept of pump and run was introduced. I remember when everyone was shell shocked when priced moved from 300 k to 500 k. $50 for a nights fun with a BATS looker seemed outrageous!

Pipe Layer99
08-05-17, 11:57
I think this is a bit misleading. I consider myself a fairly decent negotiator. However, (except for extremely rare occasions) when I offer the hot girls there 1. 2 m, they flat out refuse (a mediocre girl will accept that). 1. 5 to 2 million is the going rate there for a hot girl. On a busy night, sometimes the hottest ones even demand 2. 5 short time there. Kudos to you if you are getting the hottest girls at those places for 1. 2, but I find it hard to believe unless perhaps you are quite a handsome young guy. Then again, if you are just saying you can get a mediocre level girl for 1.2 at CJs or BATS and that would be better than any girl from D's, I do agree with that.Not really misleading. That's exactly what I said. It makes no sense in taking a girl from Dees back to your hotel for ST at 1 m when you can get a better girl at CJs or Bats for 1. 2 m. Better means just that, prettier (and not just mediocre either). The vast majority of the girls at a place like CJs, IMO, are way better looking than the girls in Dees. Of course every one of us is going to have a different opinion of what constitutes mediocre, pretty, or hot looking. I wouldn't consider giving 1 m to a girl from Blok M unless I got REALLY lucky and found a gem. I don't think that's going to happen there at the Blok.

I agree, in the clubs, sure some girls WANT 2 m. They are not shy to ask for that much. A lot of them think their punanny is worth that much. Then you have those that act sort of stuck up and just tell you a price without even telling you her name first. That's fine by me. If a girl like that doesn't even want to talk, have some conversation and then later consider 1. 2 or 1. 5 max, I just let them be. I sit back, enjoy my beer and talk to the next one I like. Like I said, it depends on you, your negotiating skills, and whether the girl likes you (if she has rent due, etc.). I have been living in Asia for 4-5 years so it helps if one doesn't go in looking like hungry wolf on the prowl. For me, the going rate at CJs is right about 1. 2 m-1. 5 whether she is smokin hotttt or in the pretty category. That's just 'my' rate and I think it's plenty for Jakarta. I just don't think even the hottest girls are worth 2 m. They will ask for that much but 2 m is a lot of money for them. That's about 150 USD. What is that 1/3 or half of a monthly salary over there?

My experience at CJs last year was similar to what I just mentioned above. I was there with Ggekko2009 and we talked to a handful of ladies. Some were cool, some stuck up. Maybe 2 asked straight up for 2 m. The very pretty girl that I took back was sexy, easy-going, and gave me great attention from the time I first spoke to her. We just had beers together, talked, danced, etc. It was actually like a normal hook-up at a bar back home. When it was time to leave, I asked her if she wanted to come with me and I offered her 1 m. Since we hit it off well, she accepted. This girl was no where near mediocre, like some of the others girls there. IMO, she was one of the better looking girls there and she had a great attitude. She even drove us back to the hotel since she had her car parked there. Next day, after the late morning session, I gave her 1m. She asked for some gas money and I thought that was fair considering we didn't pay for a taxi to get back. So I gave her an extra 200 k and she gave me her phone number. That was my experience. I want a very pretty girl, easy going, no attitude, and no hard negotiating.

Pipe Layer99
08-05-17, 12:16
Well I have had the best time in Jakarta everytime I am there and this time will not be different. Except for the traffic Jakarta is the best mongering place I have been to. I have tried Maliboro, Alexis Cj's and Bats. And like any other cities mongering seems to be getting expensive here.
Need some help on the clubs where we could hit on high quality girls. Thanks.Take a look at Jakarta100 bars. Then call the places you are interested in to check what's going on. Some of the clubs have closed and new ones have opened. So you have to check first. I haven't been there in about a year, so I can't tell you for certain. The clubs I have on my notes are Colosseum 1001, Immigrant, V2, Emperica. All will cost some money. Again, call ahead or look online for recent reviews. If you find any interesting places send up a report. Have fun.

DirectVoyage
08-05-17, 14:58
Disclaimer: I'm a noob to Indonesia, I was sent here for business with one week notice and skimmed the forum but didn't RTFF yet.

Day 1: Jet lagged after a 20+ hour flight from the USA I skim this forum and Jakarta100 bars to find a massage with extras. I'm staying near the Pondok Indah Mall in South Jakarta. From JK1000 I find Anggrek Spa which is very close.

Anggrek Spa: I walked in and am greeted at the front desk. I order the basic room which was 215,000. I then walk up a flight of stairs and meet a guy with a tablet. They had 10 girls working at 18:00. I picked one and was sent to my small room.

In walks a stunning girl. Big smile on my face. She doesn't speak English and I don't speak Indonesian. So I pull out my phone and type in 400,000 and hand it to her. She takes my phone and types in her phone number. *Forehead slap. I eventually get "how much" across, she types 500,000. I say okay.

She gives a killer massage. 10/10, my back feels so much better. On the flip she takes off her top and starts a HJ. I go to take her shorts off and she shuts me down. (At this point I realize that I didn't properly negotiate full service for 500 K. SO. I kick back and play with her tits while I get a quite good HJ.

Total damage: 215 K for room, 500 K to girl. 715 K IDR total or $54 USD.

Learning from day 1: I need to learn hooker Indo and load google translate to my phone. Also I feel like I overpaid compared to the market based on a quick RTFF. I left satisfied and hungry to learn more about Jakarta. Off to RTFF. I'm out here for a few more months. If anyone is very knowledgeable about South Jakarta and open to hanging out with a newbie shoot me a PM.

Arn Poddict
08-05-17, 16:19
I spent 2 weeks in Jakarta recently for mongering purposes and visited many places:

1. Malioboro was clearly the nicest brothel which I visited in Jakarta. I went there 5 times. The club has tens and tens of attractive dancers with trimmed bushes and tight bodies dancing naked on the stage and later asking for drinks. I have never seen so many good looking naked young slim girls on a bar stage at the same time in any bar in SE Asia. Amazing. Some of these girls will fuck for 3 M, I did not take anyone up to the rooms. Mostly they seem to do BJ's. Also Malio lounge had nice looking dancers dancing topless but not showing pussy. I found Malio Lounge couch girls were a bit better looking than the ones in Malio Club. But the dancers are hotter downstairs.

2. Alexis. This was the nicest spa I visited in Jakarta (Tuesday). Good selection of girls, both local and imported. Nice and clean facilities. I fucked a pretty Viet girl.

3. King Cross. I visited KC once (Wednesday). Quite nice selection of girls on the couches and sexy dancers both at downstairs and upstairs. Very aggressively asking for ladies drinks. Not as nice place and girls as Malioboro in my opinion. But worth a visit at least once in a lifetime if in Jakarta.

4. Emporium Spa (Thursday). Pretty decent selection of girls and nice facilities. Not as good as Alexis though. One of the mamasans has pictures of some of the girls tits on her mobile phone. This was a new feature for me and I liked it. At least you get an idea of how the girls boobs look like. So many of these girls have padded bras which is misleading for many mongers. I hate them.

5. Tease Club at Emporium. Relatively small strip tease club and annoyingly full at times. Some good looking dancers. I did not ask option to take them to a room or the price.

6. Illegals club. Went there on Wednesday midnight. Empty place with handful of people.

7. Illegals Spa. I visited on a Friday afternoon. Some nice girls but a bit sparse number of hookers available. Good facilities, I would go again.

8. Classic. Visited all 3 levels, Bunker, Level 2 and 5. Not my kind of a place. I did not fuck there. Some good looking girls but aggressive and loud atmosphere. Caters to local guys mostly, I guess.

9. Kota Indah. I checked some of the bars there out of a curiosity. Crap, not much more to say.

10. BATS. Visited 2 times, Friday and Sunday. Not many attractive girls, I took one to my hotel on a Sunday night.

11. CJ's. Also visited twice here, Saturday and Wednesday. Better looking babes on Wednesday. I took one freelancer to my hotel. Not the prettiest face but quite a nice body.

12. Dee's place and Top Gun. Both were pretty quiet on Saturday at 02 am. Not any nice looking girls on the menu.

13. Immigrants. This nightclub was OK on a Friday night. Hottest girls were not pros and not available for a bule. Only a few freelancers around, nothing special.

14. X2 nightclub. This place was packed on a Saturday night. Handful of WG's, the rest were local girls and again no chance unless you are a young and handsome dude (which I am not anymore).

The traffic sucks big time in Jakarta as everyone knows but I managed to visit all the places within 40-50 minutes from my hotel (Grand Hyatt).

On my way back from King Cross the police stopped the taxi and I had to pay 500 K for "The Commander" since I did not have my passport with me. After that night I had my passport in my jeans pocket every fucking night.

Muzungufotsy
08-05-17, 17:27
I still don't get it why people will pay 1 or even 2 millions roupiah for ST with an average old girl in 1 place while in the same city you can get laid for 350 k with a young and beautiful one in some places that we all know.

Jesus if you use dating sites and have some time to spare you can even get laid for free here!

Kerrstar
08-05-17, 19:07
Jesus if you use dating sites and have some time to spare you can even get laid for free here!It's the spare time that's usually the limit for some of us, especially if it's a quick, unexpected trip.

Goferring
08-05-17, 22:05
I spent 2 weeks in Jakarta recently for mongering purposes and visited many places:

On my way back from King Cross the police stopped the taxi and I had to pay 500 K for "The Commander" since I did not have my passport with me. After that night I had my passport in my jeans pocket every fucking night.Great to hear you had a good time but when you return continue to leave your passport in the safe. Never hand it over to someone clearly looking to top up their income for the night. Once they have your passport you will find that there is another problem and the "fine" will rise substantially just so you can get it back. Much better just to pay the $50, book it to the cost of a night's entertainment and move on.

You were unlucky to get stopped at all so don't expect it to happen repeatedly or in return trips.

Smoothy
08-06-17, 08:28
I think you will find that even if you do keep your passport with you at all times, the police are still likely to ask for money to "help you". The one time I got pulled over by the cops when I did actually have my passport, they still wanted money. They claimed I needed to have gone to the police station and filed a police report upon arrival in the country and asked why the police report was not in my passport. That being said, I've never given as much as 500 k at any time. I've probably been pulled over 20 times in 20 years. Half of those times, they let me off without paying anything even though I did not have a passport. The rest of the times I paid 100 k with the exception of 1 time where I had to pay 300 k. The one time I paid 300 k I was in a Silverbird taxi who had actually broken the law by driving in the busway when that was not allowed. It was not a police blockade, but the cop happened to be behind us on a motorbike. The cop originally wanted money from the taxi driver for his mistake, but once he saw me in the back seat he decided to go for more money. He refused 100 k and was a real ass about it telling me if I could afford a Silverbird, I could afford more than 100 k.

Pipe Layer99
08-07-17, 12:17
Disclaimer: I'm a noob to Indonesia, I was sent here for business with one week notice and skimmed the forum but didn't RTFF yet.
Total damage: 215 K for room, 500 K to girl. 715 K IDR total or $54 USD.
Learning from day 1: I need to learn hooker Indo and load google translate to my phone. Also I feel like I overpaid compared to the market based on a quick RTFF. I left satisfied and hungry to learn more about Jakarta. Off to RTFF. I'm out here for a few more months. If anyone is very knowledgeable about South Jakarta and open to hanging out with a newbie shoot me a PM.Definitely need to read up and get educated fast. Should have spent a few hours reading before you left, even with a 1 week notice. In any case, it seems like you learned pretty fast so you should be alright.

Smoothy
08-07-17, 15:25
(At this point I realize that I didn't properly negotiate full service for 500 K.

Learning from day 1: I need to learn hooker Indo and load google translate to my phone. Also I feel like I overpaid compared to the market based on a quick RTFF. I left satisfied and hungry to learn more about Jakarta. Off to RTFF. I'm out here for a few more months. If anyone is very knowledgeable about South Jakarta and open to hanging out with a newbie shoot me a PM.As far as learning the language for full service, that is quite easy. If you want full sex, simply say "ML" (which stands for making love). The girls all understand that. You already had the amount correct so once you say ML, you are set.

Jsxyz
08-07-17, 20:55
I'm a free-lancer / take-out kind of guy, and I'm wondering if it's safe to assume Western hotels in Jakarta will be GF. I'm thinking of big Western hotel chains like Sheraton or Westin.

Smoothy
08-07-17, 21:20
I'm a free-lancer / take-out kind of guy, and I'm wondering if it's safe to assume Western hotels in Jakarta will be GF. I'm thinking of big Western hotel chains like Sheraton or Westin.If you read through the Jakarta Hotel thread, you will find that all western hotels are girl friendly. Please stay at the Westin. That's a brand new hotel and there are no reports yet on that hotel. The Sheraton is way up near the airport, you wouldn't want to stay there regardless.

Jsxyz
08-07-17, 21:30
If you read through the Jakarta Hotel thread, you will find that all western hotels are girl friendly. Please stay at the Westin. That's a brand new hotel and there are no reports yet on that hotel. The Sheraton is way up near the airport, you wouldn't want to stay there regardless.Thanks! I didn't realize there was a Jakarta hotels thread. Missed that.

LA Guy 5
08-08-17, 02:21
Just so no one gets mislead by false information earlier posted here, the one Sheraton in Jakarta is the Sheraton Gandaria, which is in South Jakarta. It has been open for close to two years.

There is no Sheraton near the airport although there once was.

Member #4698
08-08-17, 03:51
Currently there are 6 Starwood Hotels operating in Jakarta: The Sheraton Grand Jakarta Gandaria City, LE Meridien, Four Points by Sheraton, Keraton At the Plaza, The Hermitage, and The Westin. The Aloft Jakarta Wahid Hasyim is scheduled to open September 15 and two more hotels are slated to open in 2019: the Aloft Jakarta Simatupang, and The St. Regis Jakarta.

Smoothy
08-08-17, 04:49
Currently there are 6 Starwood Hotels operating in Jakarta: The Sheraton Grand Jakarta Gandaria City, LE Meridien, Four Points by Sheraton, Keraton At the Plaza, The Hermitage, and The Westin. The Aloft Jakarta Wahid Hasyim is scheduled to open September 15 and two more hotels are slated to open in 2019: the Aloft Jakarta Simatupang, and The St. Regis Jakarta.Hi Natty,

Have you stayed at any of those? I've stayed at Le Meridien in the past, but wouldn't recommend it.

Menteng
08-08-17, 09:15
Hi Natty,

Have you stayed at any of those? I've stayed at Le Meridien in the past, but wouldn't recommend it.I've stayed at Sheraton Gandaria City a couple of months ago and found it very convenient. Thanks to the mall. Heck, I even did some mall hunting there. But I wasn't very successful, unlike Mighty Spearsman some time ago.

Jsxyz
08-08-17, 19:57
Hi Natty,

Have you stayed at any of those? I've stayed at Le Meridien in the past, but wouldn't recommend it.Can you share why? I generally like Le Meridien, and the location looks pretty good.

Smoothy
08-08-17, 20:57
I've stayed at Sheraton Gandaria City a couple of months ago and found it very convenient. Thanks to the mall. Heck, I even did some mall hunting there. But I wasn't very successful, unlike Mighty Spearsman some time ago.Is it better than the Bintang Baru?

Womaniszer
08-09-17, 08:45
Went to Classic Terminal 2 at 1900 hrs. After strolling for 10 minutes, didn't find a good one. So I gave Mami 50 K and told her to find a girl. She came up with slim 18 year old girl, bit dark skin, but very good height.

She told me that she is new here and will be good for you.

Her name if I properly remember was Shela. She had a very nice smile. So I decided to go for her.

Now the unique and unexpected story starts.

She asked some girls how to go to the room. I told her downstairs.

After reaching down, she was finding the room, asked some assistant to guide her the room.

That I came to know, that it was her first day at Classic.

We both first sat on the bed and started deep throat kissing. After shower went to the bed. We both lied down for kissing, after 10 minutes, she went down.

Opened Condom for BJ. I said no, do it without it. She agreed and started BJ, but in 2 minutes she stopped, maybe she didn't like it and directly went for woman on top position without condom. I told her that no condom for BJ. But please wear it for sex. But she can't understand a single word of English.

Well she went on, but after the first stroke my gear was out. She again tried but same thing again. For the 3rd time she inserted, but same old story.

Now I was into 2 doubts, either she is unaware of sex or she is doing it deliberately.

The 4th time she inserted, I hold her legs and started moving it in slow positions.

Than things went smooth enough, after changing some positions. I went for dog style for climax.

The whole act was without safety. God dammit raw.

Damage 365 K + Tips 350 K.

Womaniszer
08-09-17, 08:54
Went to Classic Terminal 2.

The moment I entered I always turn right and take a table in the end to drink some beer. Ordered a bottle after 5 minutes Rini the girl which I took 2 days before with Nimsa for 3 some came on my table. Started kissing me a lot. Requested me to take her and if I agreed, than she guaranteed a better show. I told that can't go with her alone. She called Nimas immediately. So again the pair were with me together.

After 30 minutes on table with both kissing me and dancing, we went to the room.

The beautiful girl named Nimas again same style of seducing me on the music track, but this time went a little longer, while dancing I stripped her step by step. Than they both showered me. Kissing one girl while other girl was cleaning my gear.

After drying myself we all started the bed scene.

Started deep throat one girl while other giving me BJ.

Now this time it was without condom.

Then changed position vice versa.

Carried for 30 minutes.

After BJ one started woman on top position, other kissed me.

Changed positions same way for 30 minutes.

(For guys who are new to 3 some make sure woman on top position only last for 5 minutes.

Please keep changing girls every 5 minutes.).

Well before entering the room Rini promised me something different so she asked me, that should she end the show.

I agreed and the action of her was so hard on me that I exploded in a better way.

What a threesome it was.

Now I am sorry guys but this time I paid both the girls 400 K tips.

I am not a good tipper but they forced my mind to do it.

Damage 555 k plus 800 k tips.

Menteng
08-09-17, 09:55
Is it better than the Bintang Baru?Hahahaha! At least the bathroom at Sheraton Gancit was better!

Pipe Layer99
08-09-17, 21:39
.... Damage 555 k plus 800 k tips.Nothing wrong with giving a nice tip for good service. 100 k for each girl is decent. 200 k each is a great tip.

It's good that you had a great time at Classic 2. Check out the one on the 5th floor.

Arn Poddict
08-09-17, 22:05
That being said, I've never given as much as 500 k at any time. I've probably been pulled over 20 times in 20 years. Half of those times, they let me off without paying anything even though I did not have a passport. The rest of the times I paid 100 k with the exception of 1 time where I had to pay 300 k.Yes, I guess it would not have helped me even if I would have had my passport with me. Those guys would have. Ome up with some other excuse to earn a bit money from a bule tourist.

I offered the cop first 200 k. He just laughed. Then he asked me how much money I had with me. Well I had around 2 M in my wallet. Being in a crap situation in a dark foreign country I did not want to begin to play games with the cop. So I gave him 300 k more. Luckily he accepted and did not take my wallet and check the contents. I could have lost a lot more cash. 500 k was not a big loss for me since I got out of the situation and back to my hotel safely.

Smoothy
08-09-17, 22:11
Damage 555 k plus 800 k tips.

Damage 365 K + Tips 350 K. You may be the biggest tipper in the history of Hotel Classic.

Muzungufotsy
08-10-17, 07:38
Nothing wrong with giving a nice tip for good service. 100 k for each girl is decent. 200 k each is a great tip.

It's good that you had a great time at Classic 2. Check out the one on the 5th floor.Nothing wrong giving more tips than the original payment? Where on earth does this happen?

50 k tip is more than enough. That s already 10%.

And you want this guy to do the same on 5th floor? I agree with Smoothy on this guy being the biggest tipper and the dumbest for sure.

Womaniszer
08-10-17, 08:37
You may be the biggest tipper in the history of Hotel Classic.I am a regular player. But sometimes situation is different. When some girls open up themselves to us and allow everything we want. Than higher tips has to be paid otherwise it would be disrespectful.

I appeal to members that, please try out in Classic, ask for a threesome, in which both girls has to be involved in act and no rules should be applied. In most cases they will say no, finish with one girl first, than start with other. This not called threesome, I would rather say that it is called a Spectator Act, where you have kept one spectator to see your porn video.

Good luck.

Womaniszer
08-10-17, 11:47
You may be the biggest tipper in the history of Hotel Classic.After my good session with them, they both used to come to my hotel room, in afternoon for 4 days.

Before going to their jobs in Classic.

I paid them 500 K each, for 2 Hours play.

Please check pics of both girls.

Smoothy
08-10-17, 16:42
After my good session with them, they both used to come to my hotel room, in afternoon for 4 days.

Before going to their jobs in Classic.

I paid them 500 K each, for 2 Hours play.

Please check pics of both girls.Then it worked out well for those two. It sounds like you are lucky the other 350k tip girl didn't come to your room though, she sounded like a horrible shag.

In my experience, threesomes at Classic are a disaster and I never ever recommend a threesome at Classic to anyone. I've tried it 5 times and every time was a disappointment. I've had great success with threesomes at other venues, but not at Classic. Then again, service at Classic is usually poor in general (similar to the 350k tip girl you took who gave a poor BJ then wouldn't give good access to her pussy). Glad to hear you found an exception with those two girls in your photos. You may be the biggest tipper I have heard of at Classic, but I have a friend who always tips the girls at Malioboro 1 million rupiah in hopes that they will meet him on their days off. He says it works about 1 out of 10 times.

Womaniszer
08-10-17, 17:44
Then it worked out well for those two.Thanks respected Sir Smoothy for confirming that at cheap place like Classic, it's hard to get a good+proper threesome. Girls over there even don't allow kiss as if they have came from heaven.

Well in such bad conditions these 2 girls gave me a good service. So I tipped them heavily.

As I have said before I am regular sex tourist. I fly to Pattaya and Jakarta every 3 months. I always Tip according to services.

One more thing I want to add, I been going Thailand from last 3 years, I can speak Thai now.

Good luck.

Pipe Layer99
08-10-17, 18:42
Nothing wrong giving more tips than the original payment? Where on earth does this happen?
50 k tip is more than enough. That s already 10%.
And you want this guy to do the same on 5th floor? I agree with Smoothy on this guy being the biggest tipper and the dumbest for sure.Nowhere did I suggest that I agree with giving more than the original price. You need to read my post again if that's what you got out it. Because you are way off. I know that 50 - 100 k is an average tip. With 100 being a 'nice' tip. That's what I said.

I told the newby, it's nothing wrong with giving a 'nice' tip for good service. Then I explained, in a nice way without being a jerk, that 100 k is a 'decent' tip. And that 200 k would be considered a 'great' tip. In other words, trying to let him know what a decent tip is in Jakarta so he can make his own adjustments. Get it now?

Stykler
08-11-17, 04:55
Sampled the stock at CJ's last night.

When I first walked in I was latched onto by a lady old enough to be my grandmother who was truly a pain in the butt. I just couldn't shake her off. Eventually some younger ladies came to my aid and I ended up hooking up with a decent prospect who valued my personal space. Details of the evening replicates most reports from CJ's ladies here on this forum. Nothing different from me I'm afraid.

Cost of the lady was 1. 5 million rupees for what was supposed to be 2 hours of fun, but I released her after 90 minutes as she was trying to stay overnight. I'm a big fan of the theory that you don't pay these ladies to fuck, you pay them to leave. Thanks Charlie Sheen I believe, or am I thinking of someone else?

As a side note, one of the ladies at CJ's tried to elicit 7 million rupees from me for a ST session. When I pissed myself laughing at her she kept reducing her fee one million at a time. By the time I got her down to two million I'd had a gutful of her and moved her on. I've established that the current ST price for CJ's ladies is between 1. 3 to 2 million. Happy hunting.

Styk.

Kerrstar
08-11-17, 05:46
Thanks Charlie Sheen I believe, or am I thinking of someone else?

As a side note, one of the ladies at CJ's tried to elicit 7 million rupees from me for a ST session. When I pissed myself laughing at her she kept reducing her fee one million at a time. Yes, it was Charlie Sheen. I agree, I don't often want the girls hanging around all night, especially if I have work the next day.

7 million, wow, can't blame her for trying. Maybe she has tried it on before and somebody got her down to 4 million and thought they had a bargain. You do read some crazy stories every now and then about people paying way too much.

Smoothy
08-11-17, 07:05
I've established that the current ST price for CJ's ladies is between 1. 3 to 2 million.On any given night, there are normally only about 10 girls worthy of taking home. Of those, I think the price is between 1 million to 3 million depending on the girl and the night of the week. On nights when there are very few guys and lots of girls, their price drops. On nights when it's a sausage fest, their price increases. Believe it or not, there are a few girls who go there who won't take less than 3 million. They are rare and usually not Indonesian (although there are a couple of Indo girls who think they fall into that category). They are not there every night, but they are there on occasion. For those who know the few extremely popular and stunning Indo girls who reside in Bali and have had the huge boob jobs, those girls ask for that much when they are in town. There was a Colombian girl in CJs a couple of years ago who wanted 3 million and she was absolutely worth it because she was far superior to any girl I've ever seen in CJs. I turned her down the one night I spoke with her thinking that was too much, but then the next night I decided maybe I'd do it. However, I didn't get a chance to take her because the cue of guys wanting to take her was too long. I never got her attention again. Recently, I had a girl from Iran ask me for 3 million after bargaining and would not go lower (she started at 7 million). She was absolutely stunning and looked very similar to Kim Kardashian, but I took a pass. She was not as hot at the Colombian, but she was extremely hot.

In my experience, once you take a girl from CJs, her price will drop the next time if you aren't too demanding in bed and she likes you. I've taken stunning Indo girls for 1. 5 or 2 million the first time then given them 1 million or even 800 k the times after that. I find that if they come to my place directly rather than meeting in CJs, they will take less money. Once I've gotten to know them, I've also taken a few to Bali and paid them no cash at all to join me on the trip, I just paid airfare and expenses.

Globalnomad5
08-12-17, 16:44
Where would be a good place to exchange cash (EUR) into IDR in the vicinity of Santika Premiere on Hayam Wuruk? Preferrably one that's open late. Thanks.

Offshore Swell
08-12-17, 16:55
Where would be a good place to exchange cash (EUR) into IDR in the vicinity of Santika Premiere on Hayam Wuruk? Preferrably one that's open late. Thanks.Theres three money changers in a cluster where jl Mangga Besar meets Hayam Wuruk. Check therate on xl.com. They are usually very close to XL rate for large amounts of say $800 US or more. If you say best it means you want their best price. They are pretty good because they know their competition is two doors down.

Menteng
08-13-17, 09:26
Where would be a good place to exchange cash (EUR) into IDR in the vicinity of Santika Premiere on Hayam Wuruk? Preferrably one that's open late. Thanks.Bring a little cash and use the ATM's instead. I'm sure other members can tell you which ATM¨s can give more than 3 million Rp if you need large amounts.

Offshore Swell
08-13-17, 11:18
The concept of deposit seems pretty widespread in Jakarta if you are sourcing ladies on twitter or even facebook. Has anybody got any success stories using this system? Or failure stories?. Certainly facebook seems to have a few sad sack posts of those who have paid DP and got nothing but the #jakartaangels or #bisyarjakarta, #bispakjakarta seem to be predominantly deposit girls. There must be some order to the system.

OS doesn't like deposits but I can see the girls logic as getting jerked around with no shows and dodgy Indo boys would get you down I am sure.

Koperen Klaas
08-13-17, 19:36
Great report! Thanks for the info. It's truly sad that Maribaya has closed. I had some great times there over the years.

I find it hard to believe that anyone will be paying 250 k just to enter the VIP room at DS place, but I am curious what they've done. Unfortunately, I am guessing the girls are the same they have had for the past 10 years or so.If they have separate booths or if your payment affords you solo entrance to the VIP room they have destroyed one of the main attractions of the room.

It was exactly the seediness of the affair, with 2 or 3 people getting a blowjob or fucking one of the dancers in fairly full view of the other visitors, that was the unique "selling" point. This is self-destruction of an excellent business model.

Koperen Klaas
08-13-17, 22:07
Agreed. I find Jakarta to be one of the safest cities in the world as far as theft. The chances of getting robbed or pick pocketed in Jakarta anywhere other than on the busway are minimal. However, it's always prudent to avoid flashing expensive jewelry or cash anywhere in the world.
<SNIP>I agree, but sometimes the unexpected happens. Two weeks ago I was sitting in a taxi in the evening, waiting for the light to turn green. A motorcycle stops and the two guys on it hold a brief discussion, after which the passenger steps off and walks towards the car in front of my taxi. Then he grabs inside, I hear a girl screaming and the guy runs back to the bike. I see something with a light in his hand, so I guess he nicked a smartphone. The girl jumps out of the car, but the guy has already jumped back on the bike and they speed off. No chance of ever catching them with a car.

I guess the girl was doing something with her phone with the window open. It probably lasted less than 10 seconds.

Anilm84
08-14-17, 14:50
Hi folks,

I will be dropping in to Jakarta for a couple of days from Singapore on a work trip.

Am staying at the Kempinski, assuming they don't have any bar from where one can pick up women. Are there any bars or massage places in the adjoining mall?

My friend from Singapore have asked me to try out Illegals and Alexis. Hope they are close to the area where I am staying.

Grateful if I can get any more recommendations for places close by. Would prefer a spa / massage / fishbowl type placed as opposed to pick up bars as I don't want to risk taking any women to my hotel (colleagues staying at the same place).

Look forward to hearing from you guys.

Thanks in advance.

A.

Womaniszer
08-14-17, 16:22
I am really sorry to ask this question, on this forum.

But the motive was that, if there are some members who might be aware, than they can help me.

I am going New York for 7 days tomorrow. Does anyone have contacts, so that I don't come empty handed.

Kerrstar
08-14-17, 19:11
Am staying at the Kempinski, assuming they don't have any bar from where one can pick up women. Are there any bars or massage places in the adjoining mall?

My friend from Singapore have asked me to try out Illegals and Alexis. Hope they are close to the area where I am staying. I think Alexis is in North Jakarta, Kempinski in in central Jakarta. The Hyatt across the road has a bar called Burgundy, which is frequented by WG's. Don't try to pick up the customer srervice girls who work there, they are not P4 P. If you go there the WG's will find you.

I'm not sure what else is around there, there used to be some places not far but I think they have gone. There are plenty of bars in the mall attached, Paulaner is great for beer and food, but none of the bars have WGs.

LA Guy 5
08-15-17, 09:18
Hi folks,

I will be dropping in to Jakarta for a couple of days from Singapore on a work trip.

Am staying at the Kempinski, assuming they don't have any bar from where one can pick up women. Are there any bars or massage places in the adjoining mall?

My friend from Singapore have asked me to try out Illegals and Alexis. Hope they are close to the area where I am staying.

Grateful if I can get any more recommendations for places close by. Would prefer a spa / massage / fishbowl type placed as opposed to pick up bars as I don't want to risk taking any women to my hotel (colleagues staying at the same place).

Look forward to hearing from you guys.

Thanks in advance.

A.There is not much right around the Kempinski. But you have a straight shot up Thamrin (which changes its name to Jalan Hayam Wuruk as you proceed north) to Malioboro / Malio Club and Illigals, the former being the more popular. Depending on time of day and traffic the trip would take somewhere between 15 minutes and 45 minutes by taxi. Alexis is further north than Malioboro or Illigals, and only worth the added trip if you want to visit the most expensive brothel (at least among those easily accessible to the general public) in Jakarta; actually there may be one or two others owned by the same group that are equally expensive although I'm not sure about this.

My recommendation would be to first try Malioboro and perhaps Malio Club immediately next door (further in the complex), and if that doesn't work for you (or you have extra time) Illigals (which is rather close to Malioboro) and / or Alexis.

Don Julio
08-15-17, 11:54
The concept of deposit seems pretty widespread in Jakarta if you are sourcing ladies on twitter or even facebook. Has anybody got any success stories using this system? Or failure stories?. Certainly facebook seems to have a few sad sack posts of those who have paid DP and got nothing but the #jakartaangels or #bisyarjakarta, #bispakjakarta seem to be predominantly deposit girls. There must be some order to the system.

OS doesn't like deposits but I can see the girls logic as getting jerked around with no shows and dodgy Indo boys would get you down I am sure.I too am curious about this. Are there any DP success stories out there? That's deposit, not double pen.

Blanquiceleste
08-15-17, 14:35
There is not much right around the Kempinski. But you have a straight shot up Thamrin (which changes its name to Jalan Hayam Wuruk as you proceed north) to Malioboro / Malio Club and Illigals, the former being the more popular. Depending on time of day and traffic the trip would take somewhere between 15 minutes and 45 minutes by taxi. Alexis is further north than Malioboro or Illigals, and only worth the added trip if you want to visit the most expensive brothel (at least among those easily accessible to the general public) in Jakarta; actually there may be one or two others owned by the same group that are equally expensive although I'm not sure about this.

My recommendation would be to first try Malioboro and perhaps Malio Club immediately next door (further in the complex), and if that doesn't work for you (or you have extra time) Illigals (which is rather close to Malioboro) and / or Alexis.Immigrant is quite close by, walking distance, if you must.

Or head southwards to visit BATS at Shangri La or CJ's at Mulia or X2 at Plaza Senayan. I think Red Square is also near Plaza Senayan, if it has reopened?

Blanquiceleste
08-15-17, 14:38
Hi folks,

I will be dropping in to Jakarta for a couple of days from Singapore on a work trip.

Am staying at the Kempinski, assuming they don't have any bar from where one can pick up women. Are there any bars or massage places in the adjoining mall?

My friend from Singapore have asked me to try out Illegals and Alexis. Hope they are close to the area where I am staying.

Grateful if I can get any more recommendations for places close by. Would prefer a spa / massage / fishbowl type placed as opposed to pick up bars as I don't want to risk taking any women to my hotel (colleagues staying at the same place).

Look forward to hearing from you guys.

Thanks in advance.

A.While I have also responded to the thread with suggestions, I must call this BM out for not doing his homework. A quick search on Google can get you a list of bars / clubs in Jakarta. Another quick use of Google Maps will let you estimate what is close by and what is far.

Should take less than 20 minutes. But instead, like a typical "manager" you choose to simply come here and ask questions. See'Mon. Mate. RTFF.

Quagmire1974
08-15-17, 21:13
While I have also responded to the thread with suggestions, I must call this BM out for not doing his homework. A quick search on Google can get you a list of bars / clubs in Jakarta. Another quick use of Google Maps will let you estimate what is close by and what is far.

Should take less than 20 minutes. But instead, like a typical "manager" you choose to simply come here and ask questions. See'Mon. Mate. RTFF.This is becoming an all too common occurrence here on ISG: mongers refusing to RTFF and writing posts indicating they want other mongers to do the work for them. Hell, in the Medellin forum, I actually saw a post that read "I'm too lazy to read the forum, so who / what / when / where / how blah blah blah." Makes me wonder sometimes why I write the types of reports that I do on ISG.

Speaking of reports, thanks to all of you who have written reports and contributed pictures here in the Jakarta forum. Because of your reports and pictures, you've put Jakarta higher up on my travel radar. It might be a year before I can get there, but I definitely want to get there just the same.

LA Guy 5
08-15-17, 21:55
Immigrant is quite close by, walking distance, if you must.

Or head southwards to visit BATS at Shangri La or CJ's at Mulia or X2 at Plaza Senayan. I think Red Square is also near Plaza Senayan, if it has reopened?Perhaps I should have been clearer in that I was responding to that portion of the OP's post that stated "Would prefer a spa / massage / fishbowl type placed as opposed to pick up bars as I don't want to risk taking any women to my hotel (colleagues staying at the same place)." But sure, there are pickup places, including those with a lot of working girls, closer to the Kempinski than the spas and on-site venues I mentioned.

Pipe Layer99
08-15-17, 23:02
If they have separate booths or if your payment affords you solo entrance to the VIP room they have destroyed one of the main attractions of the room.
It was exactly the seediness of the affair, with 2 or 3 people getting a blowjob or fucking one of the dancers in fairly full view of the other visitors, that was the unique "selling" point. This is self-destruction of an excellent business model.So they will lose customers and money.

Pipe Layer99
08-15-17, 23:06
While I have also responded to the thread with suggestions, I must call this BM out for not doing his homework. A quick search on Google can get you a list of bars / clubs in Jakarta. Another quick use of Google Maps will let you estimate what is close by and what is far.

Should take less than 20 minutes. But instead, like a typical "manager" you choose to simply come here and ask questions. See'Mon. Mate. RTFF.Ignore his stupid, lazy, lack of homework questions. This is when RTFF comes to life.

Sydpat
08-16-17, 04:28
Hello all,

I am silent reader of ISG and never travelled to Indonesia, but company has conference in Bali in November and after reading post and advice I found that Indonesia has got good mongering option and I seek some guidance as its new territory.

I have subscribed to Badoo and use fake GPS app and post myself I am near Block M in Jakarta and I have managed to get many girls saying Hi and ready to ML (make love), few of them openely asked me how much I can pay, I just said IDR 500 K for short time and there is a reluctant and one 40 years girls was ready to spend whole night for IDR 800 K. So I can say Badoo is a good start.

-So my question is I have 4 (Sat to Tuesday) days to spare between Jakarta and Bali and then 3 days conference in Bali, so guys what do you suggest which is a mongering destination where you get decent girls for the price.

- What amount should I offer and that should be reasonable amount for ST and LT for whole night as I don't want to spoil the market.

- If I have stay in Jakarta what hotel or location should I choose in price range of $70 to $100 per night;.

- Is Badoo is good enough or should I also look out for free lancer or in clubs or any other contact app you think is better option.

- I know Nov is too far off time, so by what period should I contact girls and start firming up price and appointment;.

- I don't want to monger in Bali since there will be more then 30 of our company people will be around and I don't have to get caught so want to keep low profile in bali but if the option is very good in Bali then I can take some risk.

- I have read Villa + 12 hours escort package for you $ 250 balivilla is this a value for the money, as they need minimum 3 days booking.

I have done research as much as possible but now I am confused and hence I need your help / guidance what ever possible.

By the way I am visiting from Australia.

Thanks you all in advance.

Anilm84
08-16-17, 16:04
Dear members of the Jakarta forum,

Thanks for the tips and suggestions in response to my earlier post.

I would also like to clarify a few things:

- Apologies if anyone felt I was being lazy. I spend a good amount of time reading the respective forums before visiting a city. I had read about places like Alexis, Maliboro, Kings Cross, Sumo etc and was planning to try out a few, my main concern was the location and it's proximity and also wanting to find out if there is any other place closer which I hadn't heard of. Sorry if I didn't frame my question properly.

- I have always contributed with FRs in every city I have visited to date (Ahmedabad, Singapore, Dubai, Bangkok) and will definitely do the same here after my visit next week.

I always value the guidance and tips received from the ISG family and want to reassure anyone here who thinks that I am a freeloader that I am not!

Once again thanks for the guidance and apologies if I came across as lazy.

Do let me know if any of you are ever visiting Singapore or Dubai, will try to offer advice from my limited experience in those places.

Rob Jones
08-17-17, 00:13
Hello all,

I am silent reader of ISG and never travelled to Indonesia, but company has conference in Bali in November and after reading post and advice I found that Indonesia has got good mongering option and I seek some guidance as its new territory.

I have subscribed to Badoo and use fake GPS app and post myself I am near Block M in Jakarta and I have managed to get many girls saying Hi and ready to ML (make love), few of them openely asked me how much I can pay, I just said IDR 500 K for short time and there is a reluctant and one 40 years girls was ready to spend whole night for IDR 800 K. So I can say Badoo is a good start.

-So my question is I have 4 (Sat to Tuesday) days to spare between Jakarta and Bali and then 3 days conference in Bali, so guys what do you suggest which is a mongering destination where you get decent girls for the price.

- What amount should I offer and that should be reasonable amount for ST and LT for whole night as I don't want to spoil the market.

- If I have stay in Jakarta what hotel or location should I choose in price range of $70 to $100 per night;.

- Is Badoo is good enough or should I also look out for free lancer or in clubs or any other contact app you think is better option.

- I know Nov is too far off time, so by what period should I contact girls and start firming up price and appointment;..Hi mate,

Last year I had 3 free days in Bali and did great with Badoo and also Tagged.

November will be here before you know it and if you start to get a feel for the girls you can score some pretty good freebies thru both of these sites.

Obviously being on a conference you will be staying at the same hotel as your colleagues so why don't you find a cheap hotel or even 3 (just in case the girls get clingy) the other side of the area you are staying at just for your tryst? For example if your conference is at Jimbaran get a room at Seminyak.

Be careful of the Balivilla offer, I haven't used it but I have read somewhere it is a bit of a ripoff.

The nightlife area in Bali is spread out so you should be able to dodge your workmates and you should listen to where they are going and go to a different area.

Try backpage Bali for escorts if you want to be discreet.

If you take a FL make sure your Hotel has good security and collects their ID.

I hope this helps a fellow Aussie.

Rob.

LA Guy 5
08-17-17, 01:53
Dear members of the Jakarta forum,

Thanks for the tips and suggestions in response to my earlier post.

I would also like to clarify a few things:

- Apologies if anyone felt I was being lazy. I spend a good amount of time reading the respective forums before visiting a city. I had read about places like Alexis, Maliboro, Kings Cross, Sumo etc and was planning to try out a few, my main concern was the location and it's proximity and also wanting to find out if there is any other place closer which I hadn't heard of. Sorry if I didn't frame my question properly.

- I have always contributed with FRs in every city I have visited to date (Ahmedabad, Singapore, Dubai, Bangkok) and will definitely do the same here after my visit next week.

I always value the guidance and tips received from the ISG family and want to reassure anyone here who thinks that I am a freeloader that I am not!

Once again thanks for the guidance and apologies if I came across as lazy.

Do let me know if any of you are ever visiting Singapore or Dubai, will try to offer advice from my limited experience in those places.Absolutely. When the brouhaha started I spent around four or five minutes checking out your previous posts and saw you have contributed numerous useful field reports. It is both funny and sad that those who were quick to accuse you of laziness were too lazy themselves to spend the few minutes necessary to do the same before hurling invectives at you. And posting an answer to the question what recommended places are near a particular hotel takes about the same amount of time as writing a post insulting someone for asking the question. And then when someone later attempts to RTFF, they will see actual information rather than have to wade around a bunch of gratuitous comments that contain no useful information and make it tedious to RTTF.

Koperen Klaas
08-17-17, 21:23
Bring a little cash and use the ATM's instead. I'm sure other members can tell you which ATMs can give more than 3 million Rp if you need large amounts.Danamon is one of my favourites. Max. 3 million per withdrawal but you can do more than one withdrawal at a time. Don't know how many times you can repeat per day.

BCA also works fine for me (2 million per withdrawal), but HSBC always refused my card.

Goferring
08-18-17, 01:12
Don't know how many times you can repeat per day.As many as you like until you reach your home bank's daily limit. Typically $1000.

Joel Goodsen
08-18-17, 06:52
I went to the pharmacy yesterday and they tell me there is a new law that a prescription is needed for any antibiotics now. Who has the time to go to the doctor to get a prescription? Does anyone know a place still selling over the counter antibiotics?There are a few pharmacies ("apoteks") in Agus Salim.

It is the street that runs behind the Djakarta Theatre building, close to Sarinah.

Though I did hear a voice back in the shop say something about a "resep", they sold me without a prescription nevertheless.

Koperen Klaas
08-18-17, 13:05
As many as you like until you reach your home bank's daily limit. Typically $1000.With USD 1000 / day you can have a lot of fun.

Always09
08-19-17, 07:20
Hi folks,

I will be dropping in to Jakarta for a couple of days from Singapore on a work trip.

Am staying at the Kempinski, assuming they don't have any bar from where one can pick up women. Are there any bars or massage places in the adjoining mall?

My friend from Singapore have asked me to try out Illegals and Alexis. Hope they are close to the area where I am staying.

Grateful if I can get any more recommendations for places close by. Would prefer a spa / massage / fishbowl type placed as opposed to pick up bars as I don't want to risk taking any women to my hotel (colleagues staying at the same place).

Look forward to hearing from you guys.

Thanks in advance.

A.I have stayed and will be staying at Kempinski in my next visit. You can visit Bats and Cj's on one side and Malio and Alexis on the other. Not very close but taxis readily available. According to your preference Alexis and Maliboro should be good options. As you don't want to get girls into the hotel. Both are pretty expensive though. If you are looking to spend most of your night try the dance clubs at these locations before you go for the session.

Koperen Klaas
08-20-17, 02:18
Thanks for the reply. Coming to Freelancers I heard the free lancers there are risky. So are there another alternative places suggested would be good.

Tourist places I checked but didn't find any at all. Which interests me during the day. So though of asking you guys.

Thanks I would consider a hotel only in Central Jakarta.

And for sure I will post my review and rates.Still waiting, or are you just a one-handed typist?

Koperen Klaas
08-20-17, 02:34
Nothing has changed in the last 15 years, let alone the last 4. The only change is the price has increased.And the walk of shame is still completely imaginary.

Grebe925
08-20-17, 05:06
Hi folks,

I will be dropping in to Jakarta for a couple of days from Singapore on a work trip.

Am staying at the Kempinski, assuming they don't have any bar from where one can pick up women. Are there any bars or massage places in the adjoining mall?

My friend from Singapore have asked me to try out Illegals and Alexis. Hope they are close to the area where I am staying.

Grateful if I can get any more recommendations for places close by. Would prefer a spa / massage / fishbowl type placed as opposed to pick up bars as I don't want to risk taking any women to my hotel (colleagues staying at the same place).

Look forward to hearing from you guys.

Thanks in advance.

A.I stayed at Grand Hyatt which is in the mall across from the Kempinski. Visited Alexis hotel which took about an hour by taxi (man, people warn you about Jakarta traffic but you have to experience it to believe it). You can call it an open air fishbowl with Viets, Indos, Thais and CISC girls. Quality ranges from 6's to the 9's. I sampled a really pretty Viet (number 159, I believe). She tried to please but the whole experience was a bit mechanical. Still, to be with such a stunner more than made up for it. I was there at about 6 on a Friday and the action was just starting up. Was also there next day at about the same time and it was well under way so I would suggest getting there much earlier on Saturday. Malio is on the way to Alexis but I didn't visit. Taxis are safe and reliable (Bluebird and associated more expensive Silverbird brands are the most reputable) and the drivers are polite to friendly though they don't speak much English, so don't be intimidated to use them. I took the highway toll route on the way back to save time even though it cost a bit more.

Indonesia Mall in which the Grand Hyatt is located has Immigrants on the top floor which is basically a pick-up joint. Entry is right next to the restaurant / bar with the same name which I mistook for the real deal and ordered a drink at the bar. The bar tender discreetly told me that what I was looking for was next door! Still, as I was sitting at the bar, a pretty girl who was hovering around the hostess desk sat next to me and smiled. I couldn't guess whether she had more than a smile on her mind so I just smiled back and went next door after the drink. I was there much before the action which starts at about midnight (at least on Saturday). As it picked up, I noticed that the same girl from the restaurant was there too. There were lots of girls looking to provide company though I didn't sample. They ranged from 5-6's to at least one 10 and a couple of guys worked on her on the dance floor throughout the time I was there trying to wear her demands down (lots of head-shaking attested to that) while plying her with drinks. It looked like it was working but I left at about 2 as I had to catch a early flight out. If you're looking for company, you should find it there. There is also the Burgundy bar / resto on the ground floor. I didn't notice an overt soliciting and there were a number of single girls but given my experience at the Immigrants restaurant I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were available.

Smoothy
08-20-17, 17:33
And the walk of shame is still completely imaginary.Unless you are staying at the Dharmawangsa.

Koperen Klaas
08-20-17, 22:50
Unless you are staying at the Dharmawangsa.Looked at their site and it looked like a pretty good hotel, but I'm not impressed by their location.

Are they girl-unfriendly?

Smoothy
08-21-17, 03:42
Looked at their site and it looked like a pretty good hotel, but I'm not impressed by their location.

Are they girl-unfriendly?It's girl friendly. The hotel won't complain about the girls, but the older Indonesian women staying there will. It's a true walk of shame taking girls there.

Menteng
08-22-17, 10:05
It's girl friendly. The hotel won't complain about the girls, but the older Indonesian women staying there will. It's a true walk of shame taking girls there.Your conversation made me curious, because years ago it was the most expensive hotel in Jakarta or even in Indonesia. Rooms were from 3500 dollars to 5000 dollars (US) per night. So I googled and found out that for a couple of hundred bucks you can get a room!

Smoothy
08-22-17, 13:40
Your conversation made me curious, because years ago it was the most expensive hotel in Jakarta or even in Indonesia. Rooms were from 3500 dollars to 5000 dollars (US) per night. So I googled and found out that for a couple of hundred bucks you can get a room!The rooms there are not that great. If there were ever any rooms for 3500 to 5000 a night, that must have been a huge suite. Nobody would have paid that for the regular rooms there.

PrinceMV2
08-22-17, 18:59
Will be in Jakarta from Aug 29th onwards for a week. Any fellow monger bro there at that time and interested in some joint hunting together may inbox me.

Cheers.

OldSnake
08-22-17, 20:13
Dude,

You don't need to go as far as Jakarta but try the batam scene close to Singapore 30 minute ferry ride so is Bintan island both Malaysian.


Hi folks,

I will be dropping in to Jakarta for a couple of days from Singapore on a work trip.

Am staying at the Kempinski, assuming they don't have any bar from where one can pick up women. Are there any bars or massage places in the adjoining mall?

My friend from Singapore have asked me to try out Illegals and Alexis. Hope they are close to the area where I am staying..

Goferring
08-22-17, 20:30
The rooms there are not that great. If there were ever any rooms for 3500 to 5000 a night, that must have been a huge suite. Nobody would have paid that for the regular rooms there.Menteng may be talking about the Dhamawangsa Residences. They had / have some very nice apartments that would likely go for those prices per month.

DubyaMan88
08-23-17, 08:12
I stayed at Grand Hyatt which is in the mall across from the Kempinski. Visited Alexis hotel which took about an hour by taxi (man, people warn you about Jakarta traffic but you have to experience it to believe it). You can call it an open air fishbowl with Viets, Indos, Thais and CISC girls. Quality ranges from 6's to the 9's. I sampled a really pretty Viet (number 159, I believe). She tried to please but the whole experience was a bit mechanical. Still, to be with such a stunner more than made up for it. I was there at about 6 on a Friday and the action was just starting up. Was also there next day at about the same time and it was well under way so I would suggest getting there much earlier on Saturday. Malio is on the way to Alexis but I didn't visit. Taxis are safe and reliable (Bluebird and associated more expensive Silverbird brands are the most reputable) and the drivers are polite to friendly though they don't speak much English, so don't be intimidated to use them. I took the highway toll route on the way back to save time even though it cost a bit more.

Indonesia Mall in which the Grand Hyatt is located has Immigrants on the top floor which is basically a pick-up joint. Entry is right next to the restaurant / bar with the same name which I mistook for the real deal and ordered a drink at the bar. The bar tender discreetly told me that what I was looking for was next door! Still, as I was sitting at the bar, a pretty girl who was hovering around the hostess desk sat next to me and smiled. I couldn't guess whether she had more than a smile on her mind so I just smiled back and went next door after the drink. I was there much before the action which starts at about midnight (at least on Saturday). As it picked up, I noticed that the same girl from the restaurant was there too. There were lots of girls looking to provide company though I didn't sample. They ranged from 5-6's to at least one 10 and a couple of guys worked on her on the dance floor throughout the time I was there trying to wear her demands down (lots of head-shaking attested to that) while plying her with drinks. It looked like it was working but I left at about 2 as I had to catch a early flight out. If you're looking for company, you should find it there. There is also the Burgundy bar / resto on the ground floor. I didn't notice an overt soliciting and there were a number of single girls but given my experience at the Immigrants restaurant I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were available.Are there any issues in taking a girl to your room at Grand Hyatt? I will be there this weekend.

BushRusher
08-23-17, 16:11
As many as you like until you reach your home bank's daily limit. Typically $1000.
Danamon is one of my favourites. Max. 3 million per withdrawal but you can do more than one withdrawal at a time. Don't know how many times you can repeat per day.

BCA also works fine for me (2 million per withdrawal), but HSBC always refused my card.FWIW, the limit is for a 24 hour period, midnight to midnight in the time zone of your bank. You need to have a 4 digit PIN only and you need to have your bank allow foreign transactions for some banks. Also some ATMs have a max limit of the currency bill. I like 100 ks.

Fast Eddie 48
08-24-17, 01:47
Dude,

You don't need to go as far as Jakarta but try the batam scene close to Singapore 30 minute ferry ride so is Bintan island both Malaysian.To Oldsnake.

Mongering is very limited in Quality and options in Batam Jakarta is only a short flight from Singapore and ticket is cheap, if you only have a few day then Batam is a good options ferry ride is more like an HR not 30 min and immigration take forever on weekend.

Fast Eddie 48.

Anilm84
08-24-17, 02:35
Landed at around 2. Was booked at the Kempinski, took about an hour to reach. Freshened up and called an Uber to take me to Alexis. The traffic had just started to build up and I reached in approximately an hour.

It is one of the fanciest places I have visited. Took the token bracelet and headed to change, was directed to the fishbowl where a guy dutifully paraded the available selections in local, Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai and Russians / eastern Europeans. The locals were all in the 6-7 range so skipped. Picked a really pretty looking Viet. She took me to the pool area. We sat in one of those enclosures for a bit and cosied up before heading to the heated pool (there are 3 of them, one is damn cold! She gave me a shoulder rub and then slid her body against mine for a bit. She had soft and flawless skin, which really turned me on! I was hard and ready to go at her so we headed to the room.

The room was large and well maintained. Took our showers, she dutifully gave me a thorough cleansing. Moved to the bed and started kissing me all over, wouldn't allow DFK which was the only sore spot of the evening. Gave a good BBBJ and then started riding me. Switched to doggy, then sideways and finally came in mish. She was responsive and enthusiastic.

Showered again and left. Total damages, 2.3 M for the girl, 200 k to the girl as tip and 150 k as entrance.

2. 3 M for just one shot (90 minutes total) is really expensive. The place gets a little crowded in the evening but the selection pool is large. Worth trying if you want assured quality, a good ambiance and are ready to pay a premium.

Going back to the hotel in the peak hour traffic was a pain, took me 1 hour 45 minutes and the taxi fare was 100 K! Uber would have been cheaper (took me 40 k to get there) but it was 10 minutes away and I didn't want to take the bike cabs offered by Uber and Grab as I was expecting a few work calls.

Looks: 8.

Boobs: 6.

BBBJ: 9.

Overall: 8.

WIR: Not likely, the place is really expensive plus there are many more places to try out.

PrinceMV2
08-24-17, 06:36
Thanks for the FR bro.

Was really looking forward to read some thing about Alexis. About 23.5 m total for a 90 min deal that too without a DFK is really not what I will like when I will be there in a few days. Habitual of getting those 600/700 rmb two hours amazing deals in the saunas of changing in China but yes that's thing of past now. Looking fwd for more frs from you. Try cjs or bats if you like picking gals from clubs and let us know current position there. Cheers.


Landed at around 2. Was booked at the Kempinski, took about an hour to reach. Freshened up and called an Uber to take me to Alexis. The traffic had just started to build up and I reached in approximately an hour.

It is one of the fanciest places I have visited. Took the token bracelet and headed to change, was directed to the fishbowl where a guy dutifully paraded the available selections in local, Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai and Russians / eastern Europeans. The locals were all in the 6-7 range so skipped. Picked a really pretty looking Viet. She took me to the pool area. We sat in one of those enclosures for a bit and cosied up before heading to the heated pool (there are 3 of them, one is damn cold! She gave me a shoulder rub and then slid her body against mine for a bit. She had soft and flawless skin, which really turned me on! I was hard and ready to go at her so we headed to the room..

UsPete
08-24-17, 13:49
Are there any issues in taking a girl to your room at Grand Hyatt? I will be there this weekend.Ensure your wife isn't also in the room.

Womaniszer
08-25-17, 05:22
Ensure your wife isn't also in the room.Nice humour.

DirectVoyage
08-26-17, 07:23
Moon Rider Blok M had an anniversary party last night and it was a great time! This is the old Highway to Elle and there isn't much coverage on this bar.

7'ish dancers which were throwing back drinks and interacting with the customers in between dancing on the bar. Some management from Dee's is helping to get the place going. A lot of potential here and a fun party atmosphere.

Great spot to drink a beer and play around with the girls. I will be back.

SetRed
08-26-17, 15:24
Hi guys,

Visiting Jakarta soon and would love to find out about some curvy ladies. I'm visiting from Delhi so any mongers traveling there can be helped.

Cheers!

John Aldrich
08-26-17, 19:13
Hi guys,

Visiting Jakarta soon and would love to find out about some curvy ladies. I'm visiting from Delhi so any mongers traveling there can be helped.

Cheers!RTFF. This means Read the F...... Forum.

Koperen Klaas
08-26-17, 21:21
Moon Rider Blok M had an anniversary party last night and it was a great time! This is the old Highway to Elle and there isn't much coverage on this bar.

7'ish dancers which were throwing back drinks and interacting with the customers in between dancing on the bar. Some management from Dee's is helping to get the place going. A lot of potential here and a fun party atmosphere.

Great spot to drink a beer and play around with the girls. I will be back.Last time I was there (in July) the place was like a morgue. Around 10 pm and more staff than clients. No dancers.

I guess they started thinking after they discovered turnover was nearly zero.

Smoothy
08-27-17, 00:52
Moon Rider Blok M had an anniversary party last night and it was a great time! This is the old Highway to Elle and there isn't much coverage on this bar.

7'ish dancers which were throwing back drinks and interacting with the customers in between dancing on the bar. Some management from Dee's is helping to get the place going. A lot of potential here and a fun party atmosphere.

Great spot to drink a beer and play around with the girls. I will be back.Glad to hear it had a good night. Every time I have been in that place, it's empty so I walk upstairs, look to see it empty, and walk right back out. I'm guessing it's an earlier evening place because I have only looked in there late at night.

Grebe925
08-27-17, 05:59
Going back to the hotel in the peak hour traffic was a pain, took me 1 hour 45 minutes and the taxi fare was 100 K! Uber would have been cheaper (took me 40 k to get there) but it was 10 minutes away and I didn't want to take the bike cabs offered by Uber and Grab as I was expecting a few work calls.Next time ask the taxi-driver to take the toll-way back if you're staying at the Kempinski / Grand Hyatt or nearby hotels. The toll itself is 7000 (I think) and you'll be back in 20-30 minutes with the fare being about the same. Well worth it.

Kodja
08-27-17, 08:56
I was in Jakarta a few weeks ago and for the first time I visited Classic Hotel. It was on a Tuesday evening.

Although I had RTFF I was still not confident that I knew enough about the place so I winged it anyway. By the way I speak Bahasa Indonesia quite fluently.

I was aware of two levels. Level 2 and level 5. I asked security if there was a third level and they said there wasn't but I think I have read on here there are 3 levels. Need confirmation on this.

The two two levels are much the same anyway. You enter the room on either level and the mamasans come swarming at you.

I was quoted one girl Rp365 K or two girls Rp570 K. The mamasan I was working with assured me I would have great service. I know the advice on here is to only take one but I decided to take the 2 because of the price.

It was much later in the evening before I chose my two girls as I was having a great time with local punters and watching the goings on with the mamasans.

Around 11:00 PM I chose two girls that I'd been watching all evening and was feeling good about my selection. They both looked hot.

Once in the room I realized why it is recommended to only have one girl not two.

The girls were reluctant to do anything except try to get it all over really quickly. They worked as a team against me. The bitches! No suck the tits, no DATY. It was shit. If I had one girl I may have had been able to persuade her to please me.

They would only have one go each on me each but I insisted they change often so they had to reluctantly change condoms (they only had 3) as well as wiping my nipples after each one had sucked it so the other one could suck. Really poor experience.

Instead of having a hard on I had a soft on.

Afterwards, when finished. Probably only 30 minutes or so I reluctantly gave Rp50 K tip to each girl. I should have given them doughnuts but I'm too soft for a pretty face.

I tracked down their mamasan once out of the room and informed her I was very disappointed in their service and held her responsible. She just shrugged her shoulders.

Summary:

I really liked the atmosphere of this place. Just chilling out having a beer and listening to the band, chatting to other punters and the girls and mamasans was very enjoyable.

I'd return again someday but would only take one girl and make sure with the mamasan prior to that. That I'd get what I asked for.

Johaim J
08-27-17, 12:22
Well, then you probably won't be too upset to hear that they are supposedly closing Top Gun down in 2 weeks. At least that's the word on the street.
Without Top Gun, I won't visit the Blok at all.Dear. MR. Smoothy,

First of all, thank you for your posts and informations in forum. Myself, visiting Jakarta about once a year, can visit more funny places with this forum.

Do you have any more information about Top Gun's current status?? I will visit Jakarta next week, and I will not stay near BlokM area neither if Topgun is not opened. CJ would be alternative option, but Top Gun has it's own fun.

Smoothy
08-27-17, 19:05
Dear. MR. Smoothy,

First of all, thank you for your posts and informations in forum. Myself, visiting Jakarta about once a year, can visit more funny places with this forum.

Do you have any more information about Top Gun's current status?? I will visit Jakarta next week, and I will not stay near BlokM area neither if Topgun is not opened. CJ would be alternative option, but Top Gun has it's own fun.I hear that Top Gun is still open.

DirectVoyage
08-28-17, 01:24
I hear that Top Gun is still open.I was in the Blok the last two weekends. I didn't visit Top Gun, but I would think that I would have heard something about a closing from the punters on the ground. (And I did not.).

Hihi Ster
08-28-17, 06:30
Next time ask the taxi-driver to take the toll-way back if you're staying at the Kempinski / Grand Hyatt or nearby hotels. The toll itself is 7000 (I think) and you'll be back in 20-30 minutes with the fare being about the same. Well worth it.That toll is 9500 and probably the worst way to get from Alexis to HI at peak traffic (or any other) times IMHO. You'd barely be passing Pluit in the 20 minutes you claim, then you'd get stuck in traffic from CP until you exit at either Slipi or Semanggi just to continue in more traffic on Mas Mansyur or Sudirman.

Best route would be through Kota Tua and Hayam Wuruk down through Thamrin reaching HI, by car or bike, although you can still get unlucky and get stuck on major traffic on that route. I'd rather take a bike for 20 minutes max and call the work calls back when I reach destination then sit in traffic for nearly 2 hours. Taking the bus would be a quick option too, although not for the faint of heart.

Grebe925
08-28-17, 17:40
That toll is 9500 and probably the worst way to get from Alexis to HI at peak traffic (or any other) times IMHO. You'd barely be passing Pluit in the 20 minutes you claim, then you'd get stuck in traffic from CP until you exit at either Slipi or Semanggi just to continue in more traffic on Mas Mansyur or Sudirman.

Best route would be through Kota Tua and Hayam Wuruk down through Thamrin reaching HI, by car or bike, although you can still get unlucky and get stuck on major traffic on that route. I'd rather take a bike for 20 minutes max and call the work calls back when I reach destination then sit in traffic for nearly 2 hours. Taking the bus would be a quick option too, although not for the faint of heart.Well, I came back to the Hyatt at about 9:30 PM on a Friday and a Saturday and both times it was a breeze at about 20-25 minutes via the highway. Getting to Alexis was an hour plus each time on surface roads. Maybe I was lucky.

Womaniszer
08-28-17, 20:19
I was in Jakarta a few weeks ago and for the first time I visited Classic Hotel. It was on a Tuesday evening.

Although I had RTFF I was still not confident that I knew enough about the place so I winged it anyway. By the way I speak Bahasa Indonesia quite fluently.

I was aware of two levels. Level 2 and level 5. I asked security if there was a third level and they said there wasn't but I think I have read on here there are 3 levels. Need confirmation on this.

The two two levels are much the same anyway. You enter the room on either level and the mamasans come swarming at you.

I was quoted one girl Rp365 K or two girls Rp570 K. The mamasan I was working with assured me I would have great service.

I'd return again someday but would only take one girl and make sure with the mamasan prior to that. That I'd get what I asked for.There are 3 levels.

1st is ground floor Spa.

3rd floor Terminal 3.

5th Floor Terminal 5.

365 K for 1 girls and 555 K for 2.

I understand your dissapointment. It happens to a lot of people. But for me Classic is heaven.

Check out my FR's on Classic.

Koperen Klaas
08-28-17, 22:24
That toll is 9500 and probably the worst way to get from Alexis to HI at peak traffic (or any other) times IMHO. You'd barely be passing Pluit in the 20 minutes you claim, then you'd get stuck in traffic from CP until you exit at either Slipi or Semanggi just to continue in more traffic on Mas Mansyur or Sudirman.

Best route would be through Kota Tua and Hayam Wuruk down through Thamrin reaching HI, by car or bike, although you can still get unlucky and get stuck on major traffic on that route. I'd rather take a bike for 20 minutes max and call the work calls back when I reach destination then sit in traffic for nearly 2 hours. Taking the bus would be a quick option too, although not for the faint of heart.Hayam Wuruk is usually a nightmare from Kota station until you have passed Harmoni. After that traffic moves slightly less slow until the HI traffic circle but it is still a test of patience. The toll road alternative is not too bad, depending on time of day.

Smoothy
08-29-17, 00:20
I was quoted one girl Rp365 K or two girls Rp570 K. The mamasan I was working with assured me I would have great service. I know the advice on here is to only take one but I decided to take the 2 because of the price.

It was much later in the evening before I chose my two girls as I was having a great time with local punters and watching the goings on with the mamasans.

Around 11:00 PM I chose two girls that I'd been watching all evening and was feeling good about my selection. They both looked hot.

Once in the room I realized why it is recommended to only have one girl not two.

The girls were reluctant to do anything except try to get it all over really quickly. They worked as a team against me. The bitches! No suck the tits, no DATY. It was shit. If I had one girl I may have had been able to persuade her to please me.

They would only have one go each on me each but I insisted they change often so they had to reluctantly change condoms (they only had 3) as well as wiping my nipples after each one had sucked it so the other one could suck. Really poor experience.

Instead of having a hard on I had a soft on.

Afterwards, when finished. Probably only 30 minutes or so I reluctantly gave Rp50 K tip to each girl. I should have given them doughnuts but I'm too soft for a pretty face.

I tracked down their mamasan once out of the room and informed her I was very disappointed in their service and held her responsible. She just shrugged her shoulders.
From my experience, that is pretty much the standard crap experience at Hotel Classic when I have taken 2 girls. I have tried it about 10 times over the years and not once have I had a good experience when I've taken 2 there.

Hihi Ster
08-29-17, 03:01
Well, I came back to the Hyatt at about 9:30 PM on a Friday and a Saturday and both times it was a breeze at about 20-25 minutes via the highway. Getting to Alexis was an hour plus each time on surface roads. Maybe I was lucky.True, 9. 30/10 ish the traffic on the toll will have calmed down, but I was talking about peak traffic which would be around 6 pm when that toll is a nightmare.

Hihi Ster
08-29-17, 04:07
Rarely talked about here is KTV, my favorite place for both clubbing as well as KTV is Colosseum / 1001 in Kota Tua, West Jakarta. The club has it all, best lighting, best sound, multiple famous international DJ's every month and a lot of very very hot chicks.

There are certain KTV rooms you can book that have balcony's into the club, so you get the best of both worlds; start the evening at 8/9 PM with a line-up and some karaoke and continue clubbing till deep into the night. Line-up for the karaoke is varied, you can get regular Indonesian girls, models as well as imports. Imports are the obvious Chinese and Viets, however depending on the mami / papi Kazachs / Uzbeks, Koreans and Japanese can be arranged. All girls are WELL above average in looks, model category quality is truly exceptional.

I was there with a few buddies last week and we went for the model category, they were 2 jt to accompany you for the night, a minimum tip of 500 k is expected at the end. You are able to bang them as well but for that you'd need to purchase "vouchers", all categories have differently priced vouchers and it seems to depend on the girl how many vouchers she wants to spread her legs. Model category vouchers are 1 jt per piece and the absolute minimum you should expect is 3 vouchers, however it isn't guaranteed that they will give you the opportunity to buy vouchers if they don't like you.

I prefer KTV girls as you have an entire night to build up a connection, spend time being frisky in the room, touching her everywhere before bringing her up to one of the hotel rooms. Of all the times I have been there and brought up a girl to bang they were drenched "down there" when we got to the room. Although condoms are provided I've never had to use them with any of the girls, they are already horny and give a real GFE.

Prices obviously are not cheap, my last visit with a total of 6 guys, 12 girls that included alcohol (single malts), banging, additional tips for blowjobs on the balcony towards the clubs and walking around naked in the karaoke room came to just over 100 jt.

Smoothy
08-29-17, 04:31
Rarely talked about here is KTV, my favorite place for both clubbing as well as KTV is Colosseum / 1001 in Kota Tua, West Jakarta. The club has it all, best lighting, best sound, multiple famous international DJ's every month and a lot of very very hot chicks.

There are certain KTV rooms you can book that have balcony's into the club, so you get the best of both worlds; start the evening at 8/9 PM with a line-up and some karaoke and continue clubbing till deep into the night. Line-up for the karaoke is varied, you can get regular Indonesian girls, models as well as imports. Imports are the obvious Chinese and Viets, however depending on the mami / papi Kazachs / Uzbeks, Koreans and Japanese can be arranged. All girls are WELL above average in looks, model category quality is truly exceptional.

I was there with a few buddies last week and we went for the model category, they were 2 jt to accompany you for the night, a minimum tip of 500 k is expected at the end. You are able to bang them as well but for that you'd need to purchase "vouchers", all categories have differently priced vouchers and it seems to depend on the girl how many vouchers she wants to spread her legs. Model category vouchers are 1 jt per piece and the absolute minimum you should expect is 3 vouchers, however it isn't guaranteed that they will give you the opportunity to buy vouchers if they don't like you.

I prefer KTV girls as you have an entire night to build up a connection, spend time being frisky in the room, touching her everywhere before bringing her up to one of the hotel rooms. Of all the times I have been there and brought up a girl to bang they were drenched "down there" when we got to the room. Although condoms are provided I've never had to use them with any of the girls, they are already horny and give a real GFE.

Prices obviously are not cheap, my last visit with a total of 6 guys, 12 girls that included alcohol (single malts), banging, additional tips for blowjobs on the balcony towards the clubs and walking around naked in the karaoke room came to just over 100 jt.So each guy pays over 16 million rupiah (about $1,200 USD) for a night of fun. It does sound like a great time, but that's a hefty price tag. I would love to see some photos of some girls you have had there.

Hihi Ster
08-29-17, 06:36
So each guy pays over 16 million rupiah (about $1,200 USD) for a night of fun. It does sound like a great time, but that's a hefty price tag. I would love to see some photos of some girls you have had there.Sometimes a bit more, sometimes a lot less, it really depends on the mood and what you do. Decent fun can be had starting at around 5jt a person.

Most of the guys are attached so we have a strict no recording / pictures / evidence policy for what happens in those rooms. Also, depending on the category but especially for the "models", a lot of the girls aren't fulltime girls, they do it as a side-gig for a few days a week / month and thus won't agree to any pictures either.

If you want to join sometime drop me a PM, we're probably going at the end of the month as there's another famous DJ coming in.

OralnDoxx
08-29-17, 07:45
I was in the Blok the last two weekends. I didn't visit Top Gun, but I would think that I would have heard something about a closing from the punters on the ground. (And I did not.).Topgun still open but it is very empty, I went there on Monday night around 12 midnight.

BushRusher
08-29-17, 11:11
Sometimes a bit more, sometimes a lot less, it really depends on the mood and what you do. Decent fun can be had starting at around 5jt a person. Too rich for my blood. My better value in the same city.

Kodja
08-29-17, 11:29
From my experience, that is pretty much the standard crap experience at Hotel Classic when I have taken 2 girls. I have tried it about 10 times over the years and not once have I had a good experience when I've taken 2 there.This is the second time I have taken 2 girls at the same time in Jakarta. The earlier one was at a different place but the same disappointing result. Lesson learnt or could it be third time lucky?

Smoothy
08-29-17, 20:43
This is the second time I have taken 2 girls at the same time in Jakarta. The earlier one was at a different place but the same disappointing result. Lesson learnt or could it be third time lucky?Hotel Classic has always been a disaster for me while taking two girls. However, I have had great success at some places when I have taken 2 girls, but it was never a place where they gave a discount for the 2nd girl. If I take 2 girls at a place where they charge full price for both girls, I have had an excellent time almost every time. I'm not sure why that is, but it's been the case for me. And at the places where I did take 2 girls and paid full price for both girls, only a small percentage of the girls would even consider agreeing to double up, so maybe that contributes to it because only the naughty ones will even consider it. I think all of the girls are forced to go along with it at Hotel Classic.

BushRusher
08-29-17, 22:24
Hotel Classic has always been a disaster for me while taking two girls. However, I have had great success at some places when I have taken 2 girls, but it was never a place where they gave a discount for the 2nd girl. If I take 2 girls at a place where they charge full price for both girls, I have had an excellent time almost every time. I'm not sure why that is, but it's been the case for me. And at the places where I did take 2 girls and paid full price for both girls, only a small percentage of the girls would even consider agreeing to double up, so maybe that contributes to it because only the naughty ones will even consider it. I think all of the girls are forced to go along with it at Hotel Classic.
This is the second time I have taken 2 girls at the same time in Jakarta. The earlier one was at a different place but the same disappointing result. Lesson learnt or could it be third time lucky?Smoothy,

Is there a place you would recommend where one could take 2 with good results? I have likewise had bad experiences or just a sequential job with little or no cross interaction.

Goferring
08-30-17, 02:58
Smoothy,

Is there a place you would recommend where one could take 2 with good results? I have likewise had bad experiences or just a sequential job with little or no cross interaction.Malawi 6th floor / Maribaya has had some great girls for full bi-sessions over the years.

However, I do note the recent posts about the downturn (possible closing?) of the 6th floor so perhaps some one can provide an up date of its status.

Ggekko2009
08-30-17, 03:14
Sometimes a bit more, sometimes a lot less, it really depends on the mood and what you do. Decent fun can be had starting at around 5jt a person.

Most of the guys are attached so we have a strict no recording / pictures / evidence policy for what happens in those rooms. Also, depending on the category but especially for the "models", a lot of the girls aren't fulltime girls, they do it as a side-gig for a few days a week / month and thus won't agree to any pictures either.

If you want to join sometime drop me a PM, we're probably going at the end of the month as there's another famous DJ coming in.Colosseum was definitely a great place for clubbing, and they were definitely not cheap (ranging from 5 to 7 juta for me). I liked their lightning and ambiance, but their DJs were more miss than hit during my several visits there last year. Unfortunately, KTV is not really my thing. Any idea who their next "famous" DJ will be and when they will perform? I will be flying into Jakarta in late September and the timing might just work out for me. Maybe I can even join in the fun with you guys, LOL.

Hihi Ster
08-30-17, 03:29
Colosseum was definitely a great place for clubbing, and they were definitely not cheap (ranging from 5 to 7 juta for me). I liked their lightning and ambiance, but their DJs were more miss than hit during my several visits there last year. Unfortunately, KTV is not really my thing. Any idea who their next "famous" DJ will be and when they will perform? I will be flying into Jakarta in late September and the timing might just work out for me. Maybe I can even join in the fun with you guys, LOL.That's why those rooms with balcony's are so great, you get best of both worlds. The smasher next month would be Dash Berlin on the 29th of September for their 3rd anniversary party.

Ggekko2009
08-30-17, 03:32
Smoothy,

Is there a place you would recommend where one could take 2 with good results? I have likewise had bad experiences or just a sequential job with little or no cross interaction.BushRusher,

You might want to try CJ. When conversing with the girl, ask whether she has friends, and they will know what you mean. I tried this out last year and brought both of them back to the hotel. I was not expecting for them to go down on each other, but I had a pleasant surprise when they were more than willing to perform with great enthusiasm.

Hihi Ster
08-30-17, 03:40
Too rich for my blood. My better value in the same city.Where might one be able to find the same quality and duration (7 PM until 5 am) for less?

Ggekko2009
08-30-17, 03:46
That's why those rooms with balcony's are so great, you get best of both worlds. The smasher next month would be Dash Berlin on the 29th of September for their 3rd anniversary party.That sucks since I will be at Gili during that time. They look like a great group, and I am pretty sure the place will be jam packed.

Here is their info by the way.

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Dash_Berlin

BushRusher
08-30-17, 05:05
Where might one be able to find the same quality and duration (7 PM until 5 am) for less?Quality is in the eyes of the beholder, IMHO. I just don't want pay that much for professional pussy, right now.

Smoothy
08-30-17, 06:35
Smoothy,

Is there a place you would recommend where one could take 2 with good results? I have likewise had bad experiences or just a sequential job with little or no cross interaction.As just mentioned, free lancers from a place like CJs or BATS can work out well. However, I have had great experiences at pretty much every brothel in town as well with 2 girls other than Hotel Classic or Hotel Travel. Those 2 places give a discount for the 2nd girl, and while the price is tempting, it's never a good experience. At least as far as I have found. The best I ever had was at Maribaya, although that place is now closed. King Cross is a place I have had great times as well. But truthfully, any place other than Hotel Classic or Hotel Travel are solid opportunities for good threesomes.

Muzungufotsy
08-30-17, 15:59
Where might one be able to find the same quality and duration (7 PM until 5 am) for less?In many places actually.

Member #4698
08-30-17, 23:08
Rarely talked about here is KTV, my favorite place for both clubbing as well as KTV is Colosseum / 1001 in Kota Tua, West Jakarta. The club has it all, best lighting, best sound, multiple famous international DJ's every month and a lot of very very hot chicks. <snip> Prices obviously are not cheap, my last visit with a total of 6 guys, 12 girls that included alcohol (single malts), banging, additional tips for blowjobs on the balcony towards the clubs and walking around naked in the karaoke room came to just over 100 jt.Great post HihiSter. It sounds like you had a great night. I would like very much to go to Colosseum and check things out, but being a solo artist acts as a deterence in a large KTV/Club setting. I think it is usually best to go to these type of places with atleast a few friends in order to party right, share the overhead, and get the most out of the club like you did or be willing to spend a small fortune on a balcony room, a couple of girls, open bar, and boom boom for just one.

But I heard there is also a different facility in the building which is geared more for solo punters like myself. It is called The Pool @ 1001 or something like that and it is also managed by the Alexis Group. From what I have read the Pool @ 1001 sounds very similar to the 7th floor lounge & pool facility at the Alexis Hotel. Prices are similar too: 1,400,000 rp for Indo girls & 2,400,000 rp for imports. That gets you 30 minutes of pool time and 60 minutes boom boom time in a private room with a girl of your choice. I like the Alexis Hotel a lot. On my last trip I met some great girls there, so I am up to checking out this 1001 bordello on my next trip and while I am there do a little reconnaissance in the KTV/Club to see if it could be good for me as well. I always enjoy new adventures in different venues as long as the girls are very sexy and friendly.

Goferring
08-31-17, 01:47
The best I ever had was at Maribaya, although that place is now closed.So Armageddon has finally arrived to Indonesia.

There was a time that great fun could be had for 100 k Rp, Blok M was pumping with great girls and the 6th floor got so much traffic that the lift button use to wear out and need replacing every 6 months.

Sad news but it brings back some great memories.

Fast Eddie 48
08-31-17, 01:50
As just mentioned, free lancers from a place like CJs or BATS can work out well. However, I have had great experiences at pretty much every brothel in town as well with 2 girls other than Hotel Classic or Hotel Travel. Those 2 places give a discount for the 2nd girl, and while the price is tempting, it's never a good experience. At least as far as I have found. The best I ever had was at Maribaya, although that place is now closed. King Cross is a place I have had great times as well. But truthfully, any place other than Hotel Classic or Hotel Travel are solid opportunities for good threesomes.To Smootthy.

I have done 2 girl at Royal bar and MTR 2 at Kota Indah and Mewar Bintang at Manga Besar price is about the same as classic hotel room is not as nice girls, I have got good service at Royal bar and only CBJ and poor service at Bintang and MTR 2 at this low end place the house get most of the money so I don't expect porn star experience from this place.

Fast Eddie 48.

Hihi Ster
08-31-17, 03:34
In many places actually.Feel free to enlighten me.

Hihi Ster
08-31-17, 03:37
Great post HihiSter. It sounds like you had a great night. I would like very much to go to Colosseum and check things out, but being a solo artist acts as a deterence in a large KTV/Club setting. I think it is usually best to go to these type of places with atleast a few friends in order to party right, share the overhead, and get the most out of the club like you did or be willing to spend a small fortune on a balcony room, a couple of girls, open bar, and boom boom for just one.

But I heard there is also a different facility in the building which is geared more for solo punters like myself. It is called The Pool @ 1001 or something like that and it is also managed by the Alexis Group. From what I have read the Pool @ 1001 sounds very similar to the 7th floor lounge & pool facility at the Alexis Hotel. Prices are similar too: 1,400,000 rp for Indo girls & 2,400,000 rp for imports. That gets you 30 minutes of pool time and 60 minutes boom boom time in a private room with a girl of your choice. I like the Alexis Hotel a lot. On my last trip I met some great girls there, so I am up to checking out this 1001 bordello on my next trip and while I am there do a little reconnaissance in the KTV/Club to see if it could be good for me as well. I always enjoy new adventures in different venues as long as the girls are very sexy and friendly.You're absolutely right. Some of my friends have tried the pool and were very pleased, look forward to your review!

Ggekko2009
08-31-17, 04:48
Great post HihiSter. It sounds like you had a great night. I would like very much to go to Colosseum and check things out, but being a solo artist acts as a deterence in a large KTV/Club setting. I think it is usually best to go to these type of places with atleast a few friends in order to party right, share the overhead, and get the most out of the club like you did or be willing to spend a small fortune on a balcony room, a couple of girls, open bar, and boom boom for just one.

But I heard there is also a different facility in the building which is geared more for solo punters like myself. It is called The Pool @ 1001 or something like that and it is also managed by the Alexis Group. From what I have read the Pool @ 1001 sounds very similar to the 7th floor lounge & pool facility at the Alexis Hotel. Prices are similar too: 1,400,000 rp for Indo girls & 2,400,000 rp for imports. That gets you 30 minutes of pool time and 60 minutes boom boom time in a private room with a girl of your choice. I like the Alexis Hotel a lot. On my last trip I met some great girls there, so I am up to checking out this 1001 bordello on my next trip and while I am there do a little reconnaissance in the KTV/Club to see if it could be good for me as well. I always enjoy new adventures in different venues as long as the girls are very sexy and friendly.I might have visited Alexis just one time. I have never really like their system. What's the deal with the paper rating system that you are forced to provide after the service and the tip amount? This to me is a complete bullshit way of extracting more money from you by implicitly shaming you into giving more.

DoolaDee
08-31-17, 17:51
I know many of you have taken 2 girls at Classic hotel but have any of you taken 3 or more? If so, what is the price like when you take 3 or more girls? Much appreciated.

Member #4698
08-31-17, 21:26
I might have visited Alexis just one time. I have never really like their system. What's the deal with the paper rating system that you are forced to provide after the service and the tip amount? This to me is a complete bullshit way of extracting more money from you by implicitly shaming you into giving more.I guess we will have to just agree to disagree since I think pretty highly of the Alexis Hotel and what they have going on on their 7th floor. Their business plan is pretty straight forward: offer a large selection of high quality, young girls, make reasonably sure they provide great service, and charge a lot of money for it.

Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder, but I have consistently found over the years that Alexis has the kind of girls I am looking for and want. They always seem to have a large number of young, attractive Indo girls plus much smaller contingents of more mature yet still attractive Vietnamese, Thai, and Chinese girls, and 5 or 6 ugly former Russian Federation girls for customers that crave white meat. All the girls sit in groups according to nationality around a medium size lounge / bar area. Drinks are available, but are never pushed. There is no pressure to buy a girl a drink. A customer gets 30 minutes fooling around time in the small pools and 60 minutes private time with a girl. Rooms are well kept and large, especially the "VIP" rooms.

On your particular complaint: I have never spent much time thinking about the form one way or another. It just didn't seem important to me. I tip only when a girl gives me good to great service. No form is going to change that or make me tip when I don't think it is deserved, so I feel no intimidation or pressure. In fact, I looked at it from a different perspective: I think the form is more a management tool to keep track of the girls' performance and customer satisfaction therefore to ensure the girls are performing well and not slacking off as girls sometimes will if not properly managed. Maybe I am right. Maybe you are right. Maybe we are both right. Who cares? Its small potatoes IMHO. It is hard to remember, but I think I only filled out the form once in 2017. The girls and I ran into overtime on most occasions and I just tipped my girls in cash. In year 2017 I have ZERO complaints with Hotel Alexis.

My recent history at Alexis:

2016 - 3 visits 3 girls (2 young, pretty little Indonesian girls and 1 Vietnamese girl). All 3 girls were very attractive, but service was a little lacking with the two Indo girls because both of them would only give me a CBJ. I remember the 2nd 2016 Indo girl actually pleaded with me to let her continue the session after I stopped everything due to her condom request. I reluctantly gave in to her pleadings and the rest of our time together was acceptable. The Viet girl, on the other hand, was a total pro and sex queen. She gave me a passionate PSE that not only included a BBBJ, but a gnarly rim job as well. Kudos to her. She received a generous tip.

2017 - 4 visits (LOL) (2 young, pretty little Indonesian girls). I was at first reluctant to go back to Alexis because of the CBJ's of 2016, but I am sure glad I gave that honky tonk a 2nd try because this time my two young, sexy little Indo girls gave me sweet, sweet LOVE sessions. The 1st girl was so sweet and passionate that I repeated with her 3 times. I never requested a BBBJ or anything else with her. She did everything a young Asian girl is supposed to do and did it well. There was a lot of DFK, BBBJ's and from there we went on to DATY, 69's and mutual rim jobs. My last session with her was a romantic (LOL) bareback ride, her idea, not mine. Since then we have made plans to see each other again on the outside when I return to Jakarta.

Meanwhile I had a very similar LOVE session with my 2nd charmingly sweet, sexy, barely 18, Alexis Indo girl when my 1st girl was on her day off. It was same same type tender passion. What a great girl. I only wish I had set aside more time in Jakarta so I could have seen her more times. With her too, I have plans to get together again when I return.

On meeting the 2nd girl: the mamasan knew me by then as a steady, repeat customer and she remembered my previous sessions with the 1st girl, so after she saw I was having trouble making a selection from all the Indo girls in the lineup, the good kind of trouble resulting from having too many excellent choices at hand, she later brought by the barely 18 year old for my approval. One look at girl #2's beautiful smile and sexy spinner body was all it took. Later after our session, I specifically sought out the mamasan and thanked her for her advice by giving her a small, 100,0000 rp tip. She was very appreciative.

Lastly, it has been 4 months since I returned from my 2017 10.5-week trip through SE Asia, plenty of time to sort everything out and reminisce about all the girls. I averaged around 1. 33 girls per day due to the many threesomes I enjoyed with my two favorite repeat BKK girls and ditto my two favorite repeat MNL girls. My two Hotel Alexis girls rank in the top 5 of my favorite new girls of 2017. The 1st Alexis girl is #2 on that list. My #1 new girl of 2017 is a little Khmer hostess girl that works in Rose Bar, Phnom Penh. What a night she gave me! I will never forget it.

Fast Eddie 48
09-02-17, 01:20
I know many of you have taken 2 girls at Classic hotel but have any of you taken 3 or more? If so, what is the price like when you take 3 or more girls? Much appreciated.To DoolaDee.

Are you a newbie asking a curious question if you want to spend the money you can ask for 10 girl if you want, why don't you go find out the answer yourself next time you are in town.

Fast Eddie 48.

Womaniszer
09-02-17, 04:59
I know many of you have taken 2 girls at Classic hotel but have any of you taken 3 or more? If so, what is the price like when you take 3 or more girls? Much appreciated.Threesome is an art. First one should learn how to do it. If you know the art, than you can definitely try foursome. But I have seen lots of people who are unaware of threesome. Specially in Classic girls don't allow it. The rules are finish with one girl than start with other. Well that's not a threesome. That's means one is keep a spectator to watch his own porn movie.

Blanquiceleste
09-02-17, 05:09
I guess we will have to just agree to disagree since I think pretty highly of the Alexis Hotel and what they have going on on their 7th floor. Their business plan is pretty straight forward: offer a large selection of high quality, young girls, make reasonably sure they provide great service, and charge a lot of money for it.Agree 100% with this. I have not been to Alexis in over 3 years now, but I fondly recall the times I have spent there with absolutely stunning chicks. Do they still have the Helicopter service on Level 5?

All said and done, do not venture there unless you are prepared to blow around 3. 5 juta in under 3 hours. Not for the faint-hearted.

Member #4698
09-02-17, 21:59
Agree 100% with this. I have not been to Alexis in over 3 years now, but I fondly recall the times I have spent there with absolutely stunning chicks. Do they still have the Helicopter service on Level 5?

All said and done, do not venture there unless you are prepared to blow around 3. 5 juta in under 3 hours. Not for the faint-hearted.Hi Blanquiceleste, I enjoyed reading your report on Pattaya. I will update my own data with a couple of your timely Go Go recomendations for my much anticipated long weekend excursion from BKK. I have not been to Pat since 2015 and that is too long.

Comparative Prices on Alexis and Malioboro/Malio Club:

You must have had a really, really good time in Alexis when you spent 3. 5 rp ($260). My usual tab is around 1,400,000 ($104) when I go Indonesian which is 90% of the time plus add in an extra $40 to $50 for drinks, tip, and the VIP room which is not a bad deal considering the level of talent and service IMHO. And like I said previously in my last post, they do not push drinks here unlike Malioboro / Malio club where I generally run up a significantly higher tab. There were, however, a couple of nights that I did go over budget at Alexis. First, anytime you take an import it is going to be more money. The Viet girls are the sexiest girls in Alexis after the Indo girls IMHO. A session with one of the Viet girls is 2,400,000 ($178) and then add in $40 to $50 for drinks, tip, and the VIP room and the tab will come to 2,962,000 rp ($220). Ouch! Thank Buddha I come to Jakarta for the home grown talent most of the time. My last Alexis Import was a Viet girl in 2016. She said she was a formally trained ballet dancer and I believe her because she showed me some amazing moves and positions. It was the complete opposite of the kind of session I get from the young Indonesian girls and similar to what is offered by experienced Chinese girls in my favorite Macau Saunas and Thai girls at The Lord in BKK. A PSE in other words.

Looking over my notes and my Quicken account (LOL) I realize that I forgot to mention in my last post that with my favorite 2017 Alexis girl, the one I spent 3 nights with and fell in love with, Ha Ha, I actually had 4 sessions with her. The 1st session with her was so good that I extended it while we were still in the love embrace and we had a double session. It was sooooooo easy to arrange. We didn't leave the room. She merely made a call and notified management that I wanted to extend the session. Then she put me on the phone and I confirmed the arrangement and that was that. That night ran me 3,293,000 rp ($244.50) total including 2 drinks, tip, and the VIP room.

Still, I have spent consistently more in Malioboro especially when I decide to stay there and throw a Tequila party with a couple of girls before and especially after the main event. A quick search on my Quicken account shows that 33% of the time at Malioboro, I spent between 2,155,000 rp ($160) and 2,560,000 rp ($190), 33% of the time I spent between 3,097,300 rp ($230) and 3,905,000 rp ($290) and 33% of the time I spent 4,107,000 rp ($305) to 4,849,000 rp ($360). Yeah I find it much easier to run up a large tab at Malioboro than just about anywhere else in Jakarta. A little surprising is that I have fared better statistically at Malio Club, but that was because on my last trip I fell into lust with one of the couch girls and she was relatively inexpensive. HA HA. As a result, 80% of the time in Malio I have spent between $1,481,000 rp ($110) and 2,437,000 rp $181 including numerous drinks, but not including tips. The higher tabs arose from fooling around with the dancers before or afterwards. My records also show that I went over 2,773,000 rp ($200) in Malio Club on the night I had a session with one of their sexiest Dancers. It was totally worth it IMHO. I look forward to seeing her again.

I mention all this to point out that Jakarta is not cheap, especially if you spend time in the top places. Your tab will vary in these establishments on any particular night depending on your consumption habits, duh, and type of girl you choose. You can escape Malioboro or Malio Club relatively unscathed if you select a harem couch girl and take her straight up to a room, but I rarely do that. It is too entertaining to hang out in the bar with the dancers and start ordering Tequilas. The one annoying thing I find with Malioboro / Malio Club is that the staff is constantly asking for tips. At these prices management should forbid such bad behavior. But the girls are so hot that I just ignore the begging for tips and do my thing. After a while (numerous visits) the staff catch on and stop bothering me. On a couple of nights I gave my repeat girl some small denomination bills and let her pass out renumerations to the guys that clean the rooms and she knew how to crack the whip and keep them in their place with a sharp word. LOL.

2nd, where was I? Oh yeah, the Helicopter service on Level 5 at Alexis Hotel. No, they have cut that out. I don't know of anyplace including in China where it is offerred anymore.

Other Floors in Hotel Alexis:

The 5th floor at Alexis has been totally remodeled and renovated and the rooms are like 5-star hotel rooms. I checked it out on one of my visits in 2017. The setup is like this: a papasan greets you as you get off the elevator and escorts you to a nicely decorated waiting room. Then he explains the pricing and offers to show you his girls. The deal is interesting: 1,700,000 rp for 90 minutes with a girl and 2 shots. So, I guess that means a BBBJ to completion and then sex ending in a 2nd orgasm. He brought in 4 girls at a time like they do in some HKG brothels. The first set of girls were 2 Indo girls and 2 Vietnamese girls. They looked friendly and willing, but not as sexy as the girls on the 7th floor so I passed. He then brought in another set of 4 girls of similar quality so I made a polite excuse, told him I would be back later and left. Now this is just my assessment of the girls. I liked the setup and the deal. Other guys might like the girls better than I or now 4 months after my short look they probably have a new batch of girls so it is worth a look. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

I was much more impressed with the girls on the 3rd floor Karaoke bar / lounge. These girls were young Indo girls and every bit the high quality as the 7th floor girls. The deal here is you are charged a set fee by the hour or half hour to sit with a girl or girls of your choice. You can talk, play games, and they will entertain you. Drinks are required. I mean why would you go to a place like this and not plan to buy drinks and have a good time? You can pay extra to have a private space off to the side or you can just be with your girl on a couch in a semiprivate space in the bar. I am not sure how much hanky panky is allowed. I assume more is allowed in a private space. At the end of your alloted time together you can either choose to say goodbye, extend the time, choose other girls to sit with you, or take your girl to a private room for boom boom. Up to you. I am sure this place is not cheap. But the girls looked really young and really hot to me so this is a place where I plan to spend more time and investigate thoroughly if you know what I mean. The whole Karaoke bar is much smaller than the Colosseum described on the forum recently. This set up reminds me more of the small, but intimate Karaoke bars in Ermita / Malate except here I think boom boom is definitely on the menu.

Lastly, there is a club on the 1st floor (ground floor) of Hotel Alexis. I have never visited this bar because on the two separate occasions that I wanted to go in, the security guys insisted that I check my Canon pocket camera before entering which I refused to do on principal. I hear this place has some very hot girls as well so it is probably worth a look.

Ggekko2009
09-03-17, 04:36
Agree 100% with this. I have not been to Alexis in over 3 years now, but I fondly recall the times I have spent there with absolutely stunning chicks. Do they still have the Helicopter service on Level 5?

All said and done, do not venture there unless you are prepared to blow around 3. 5 juta in under 3 hours. Not for the faint-hearted.This is probably the first time I come across this term, but what exactly is the Helicopter service? I don't think you mean the Helicopter literally, but then again.

Datiao
09-03-17, 05:02
Hi everyone.

Am making my first trip to Jakarta and likely staying north near Classic hotel cause that's the most discussed budget place. I read that FLs in vans, Loksari area but that info was about a year ago so not sure whether still valid.

Appreciate more info for budget brothel or spas in the North. But if there are much such places in Central, I should hv enough time to check them out as I have 7 days.

Below 2pics i saw in another site, can anyone identify where is the places.?
Thk you.

Womaniszer
09-03-17, 11:57
Hi everyone.

Am making my first trip to Jakarta and likely staying north near Classic hotel cause that's the most discussed budget place. I read that FLs in vans, Loksari area but that info was about a year ago so not sure whether still valid.

Appreciate more info for budget brothel or spas in the North. But if there are much such places in Central, I should hv enough time to check them out as I have 7 days.

Below 2pics i saw in another site, can anyone identify where is the places.?
Thk you.Those pics are from shit places. You can try only Classic that's the best. Apart from Classic try Travel Hotel.

Datiao
09-03-17, 16:24
Those pics are from shit places. You can try only Classic that's the best. Apart from Classic try Travel Hotel.Thanks womaniszer.

Already know Travel hotel besides Classic.

Do you recognise / know this shit place. ?

Girl looks ok.

Koperen Klaas
09-04-17, 00:43
I would not go to Jakarta for mongering if I were you. It is a crap city with bad vibe. Some nice girls yes but you can get the same and even better in other SE countries.You probably never went to Jakarta. Bad vibe? Only if you exude it yourself. Some nice girls? You must be blind. Jakarta is overflowing with them. Good luck in other countries, considering your bad eyesight.

Blanquiceleste
09-04-17, 01:07
Hi Blanquiceleste, I enjoyed reading your report on Pattaya. Thank you for the kind words. I look forward to reading your ever entertaining and informative reports too.


You must have had a really, really good time in Alexis when you spent 3. 5 rp ($260).

SNIP

I actually had 4 sessions with her. The 1st session with her was so good that I extended it while we were still in the love embrace and we had a double session. Now you know why! 5555.


You can escape Malioboro or Malio Club relatively unscathed if you select a harem couch girl and take her straight up to a room, but I rarely do that. It is too entertaining to hang out in the bar with the dancers and start ordering Tequilas. Exactly! Reminded of a song here.

Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time.

Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines.

Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way.

The time is gone, the song is over.

Thought I'd something more to say.

Time, Pink Floyd.


I mention all this to point out that Jakarta is not cheap, especially if you spend time in the top places.

SNIP

On a couple of nights I gave my repeat girl some small denomination bills and let her pass out renumerations to the guys that clean the rooms and she knew how to crack the whip and keep them in their place with a sharp word. LOL.

SNIP

No, they have cut that out. I don't know of anyplace including in China where it is offerred anymore.

SNIP

The 5th floor at Alexis has been totally remodeled and renovated and the rooms are like 5-star hotel rooms.

SNIP

I was much more impressed with the girls on the 3rd floor Karaoke bar / lounge.

SNIP

Lastly, there is a club on the 1st floor (ground floor) of Hotel Alexis. I have never visited this bar because on the two separate occasions that I wanted to go in, the security guys insisted that I check my Canon pocket camera before entering which I refused to do on principal. I hear this place has some very hot girls as well so it is probably worth a look.Jakarta offers a wide price range depending on ability and willingness to spend. But then, what will we do with all the money we make? 5555.

I must keep this tip in mind of handing over small bills to the girl with you to manage the tips. I woman running the "household expenses" is always more efficient.

A pity that the helicopter has been cut out. Perhaps someone like Ikksman in China might be able to advise on the last bastions of this wonderful service.

The new 5th floor model is interesting. Must check on next visit. 3rd floor chicks are really hot. Club on Level 1 is hot too. They routinely have topless dancers too. For a drink you have some fun with them as well.

Always09
09-04-17, 07:13
Tried the usual Mali and Alexis. However Friday everything was closed due to the festival. Wow Jakarta looks so empty. No traffic but missed the closure of the pubs.

However tried the one in Noble House. It was full as that maybe the only club which was open. Serves dinner and then it's a club after midnight. Lots of couples mostly indo girls with bulas. Good music but not sure how good it's for mongering.

LA Guy 5
09-04-17, 10:40
Hi everyone.

Am making my first trip to Jakarta and likely staying north near Classic hotel cause that's the most discussed budget place. I read that FLs in vans, Loksari area but that info was about a year ago so not sure whether still valid.

Appreciate more info for budget brothel or spas in the North. But if there are much such places in Central, I should hv enough time to check them out as I have 7 days.

Below 2pics i saw in another site, can anyone identify where is the places.?
Thk you.The picture on the left is likely from Starmoon, in the Komplek Kota Indah off of Jalan Pangeran Jayakarta. It is in the same complex as Sari Ayu, Royal Massage, and LA Bar. Prices for a one-hour session are in the range of 300,000 to 400,000 rupiah for the room and girl. http://www.streetdirectory.com/indonesia/en/jakarta/travel/travel_id_10327/travel_site_4522/travel_no_no.45/.

I don't know if this is still the case, but in years past the prettier girls at such places would end up "graduating" to the more expensive venues where they would then cost substantially more.

Harvez
09-04-17, 15:05
I have been to Jakarta for 1 day before, I went to one club called classic hotel impressed by the cost and value. Girl said she cannot go to hotel just can stay there.

Can anyone advise is it easy to find long time in Jakarta like freelancer and girls from the hotels.

I would prefer to grab a girl and take them overnight but not sure if possible there.

Thanks.

D Cups
09-04-17, 15:14
To me they are very similar. Maybe Manila slightly better but the Indo girls may have bigger boobs. You are asking a complex question that depends on so many factors including your hygiene, attitude, appearance, money; and their current balance, hotness, attitude and mood. It is always an individual chemistry.


Hi,

I know both, Manila (and not only) and Jakarta. I would have to tell something about them but before I would like to hear something from you about girls. I don't mean prostitutes but regular girls even if you have to give her some little gifts or money. I don't consider the the beauty or fun of the city. I don't consider night clubs, disco, etc. Etc. But only the behavior of the girls in relation to foreigners and sex. If you know well both cities, in your opinion what is more interesting? What are the differences about the behavior of the girls?

Datiao
09-04-17, 16:32
The picture on the left is likely from Starmoon, in the Komplek Kota Indah off of Jalan Pangeran Jayakarta. It is in the same complex as Sari Ayu, Royal Massage, and LA Bar. Prices for a one-hour session are in the range of 300,000 to 400,000 rupiah for the room and girl. http://www.streetdirectory.com/indonesia/en/jakarta/travel/travel_id_10327/travel_site_4522/travel_no_no.45/.

I don't know if this is still the case, but in years past the prettier girls at such places would end up "graduating" to the more expensive venues where they would then cost substantially more.Thanks LA Guy. The price quoted was 3-350 k for each girl.

Brothel service for I HR is a long time, I probably take less than half.

Wonder why these joints were not mentioned? I don't mind trying my luck if girl quality is like the pic.

Will visit and report on findings.

Any more of such brothels worth visiting in the North?

Below are pics from that site maybe anyone have a clue on the joint these 2 ladies worked.

UsPete
09-04-17, 17:14
Thanks LA Guy. The price quoted was 3-350 k for each girl.

So this Starmoon is a brothel? I HR is a long time, I probably take less than half.

Wonder why these joints were not mentioned? I don't mind trying my luck if girl quality is like the pic.

Will visit and report on findings.

Any more of such brothels worth visiting in the North?

Below are pics from that site maybe anyone have a clue on the joint these 2 ladies worked.Looks like the Regal photo album.

The Kota Indah bars are basically after working hours pubs with goldfish bowls thrown in. You get all walks of life in these bars though everyone is fairly modest about their backgrounds which flips on it's head many longtimers impressions of young asians.

They have a weird "don't by me drink" policy with the girls. The girls refuse to take a drink if you offer it to them, if you push they will take something like a Guinness at the bar. The drink always seems to gets added to someone else's bill as I never get them added. Maybe the girls take the hit.

They do specialise in niave "fresh" girls if that is your preference, invariably two or three weeks before some of these girls were working in your local indomaret or chinese restaurant which makes for interesting conversation if you want to pan out your hours room booking.

Surprisingly you can get to Kota Indah bars very quickly during the rush hours as they are short walk from Jayakarta LRT station and it's only a 15-20 minute zip up the line from Gondangdia, Cikini & Manggarai (South Jakarta)

StinkyFeet
09-04-17, 18:03
This is probably the first time I come across this term, but what exactly is the Helicopter service? I don't think you mean the Helicopter literally, but then again.In Macao it's called a 360 BJ. China WG will do it if you know how to ask them especially if they are already giving the John a BBBJ. Red ropes service is the ultra rare service. Almost extinct since it involves acrobatics and a fairly athletic WG. Pork chops and chubbies are ill fit to do this service. I think it was banned in one province when a WG died from a broken neck when she preformed it improperly.

Datiao
09-04-17, 23:52
Looks like the Regal photo album.

The Kota Indah bars are basically after working hours pubs with goldfish bowls thrown in. You get all walks of life in these bars though everyone is fairly modest about their backgrounds which flips on it's head many longtimers impressions of young asians.

They have a weird "don't by me drink" policy with the girls. The girls refuse to take a drink if you offer it to them, if you push they will take something like a Guinness at the bar. The drink always seems to gets added to someone else's bill as I never get them added. Maybe the girls take the hit.

They do specialise in niave "fresh" girls .

Surprisingly you can get to Kota Indah bars very quickly during the rush hours as they are short walk from Jayakarta LRT station and it's only a 15-20 minute zip up the line from Gondangdia, Cikini & Manggarai (South Jakarta)Thanks UsPete for the info.

I googled Regal Jakarta but ended in non-monger related hotel and cafes. Can you tell me where is Regal?

Starmoon and likely others in Kota Indah opens at 3 pm is good for afternoon sex. I actually prefer experienced rather than naive fresh girls for better services.

No buy me drinks policy def more pros than cons for us and I like fishbowl joint, just choose and get to the room. No bullshits of haggling for LDs.

Smoothy
09-05-17, 07:13
There are so many good places in Jakarta. Don't waste your time trying to find the same girls some other guy took. Those girls in those 2 photos don't look very good anyway. Honestly, unless you spend a heck of a lot of time in Jakarta, Hotel Classic is the only place you need to know. It's the best value for money in Jakarta that has young, hot girls. (maybe the best value for money in the entire world).

However, if you have time to check out other places and want to do that, here's a non-comprehensive list of some places (in no particular order). Every one of them has hot girls. You can research each one on the internet using google searches. Knock yourself out.

Cherry Spa.

Tropical Spa.

Spa Mas.

Sumo Shiatsu & Spa.

Kimochi Spa Pangjay. Now (Pangeran spa).

Alexis.

Hotel Classic.

Malioboro Club.

Puri Sehat Spa & Sauna.

Fashion Hotel Spa.

BLUE TOPAZ SPA & SAUNA. Now (Golden Spa).

V2 Club Lounge & Spa.

Kimochi. Mabes.

Dheaven Spa.

Paradise Spa Sunter.

Grand Boutique Spa.

Tematik Spa.

Orchardz SPA.

Kota Indah.

ILLIGALS CLUB.

Comfort Spa. Kelapa Gading.

Comfort Spa. Latumenten.

Fortune Spa.

Emporivm Spa & Lounge.

Hotel Travel.

Komplex Ruko Robinson.

Pegasus Spa.

Velvet Spa.

My Place Spa. Gunung Sahari.

My Place Spa. Senayan.

My Place Spa. Kelapa Gading.

Griya Sehat Spa.

BFashion Spa.

Venice Spa.

Famous SPA. Puri Kembangan.

Mstar Spa.

Oasis Spa and Cafe.

Suncity Luxury Club.

Olympic Hotel-Karaoke-Sauna & Spa. Jakarta Barat, Jakarta.

Atlantis SPA.

Royal Spa Sunter. Now Golden Spa.

Mawar Spa & Galaxy Delta Spa Fatmawati.

Grand Magnolia Spa.

Magnolia Spa. Pondok Indah.

Foxy Spa. PIK.

Grand Kimochi Cempaka Mas.

SPA 17 pengadegan.

CHERRY KARAOKE, LOUNGE BAR & SPA.

Anggrek Spa. Fatmawati.

My Place Spa & Cafe. Kedoya.

My Place Spa & Cafe. Grand Wijaya.

King Cross. Jakarta.

Grand Kimochi.

Rizz Spa. Jakarta Selatan.

Kampung Daun Spa & Therapy. Menteng - Jakarta.

Honey Message.

Datiao
09-05-17, 10:36
There are so many good places in Jakarta. Don't waste your time trying to find the same girls some other guy took. Those girls in those 2 photos don't look very good anyway. Honestly, unless you spend a heck of a lot of time in Jakarta, Hotel Classic is the only place you need to know. It's the best value for money in Jakarta that has young, hot girls. (maybe the best value for money in the entire world).

However, if you have time to check out other places and want to do that, here's a non-comprehensive list of some places (in no particular order). Every one of them has hot girls. You can research each one on the internet using google searches. ge.Thanks Smoothy for posting all these joints.

I m newbie so I had no idea what to expect. The popular spots classic, travel a definite visit for me.

I m more into services and if the two girls in the pics are good, I'll prefer them over hot girls that are starfish / don't BBBJ.

I presume Spa means sauna etc .
I don't need spa facilities, don't use them.

Maybe massage plus BBBJ FJ. Or.

Even better the fishbowl setup pick and go rm FJ.

Be there for one week.

John Aldrich
09-05-17, 17:43
I have been to Jakarta for 1 day before, I went to one club called classic hotel impressed by the cost and value. Girl said she cannot go to hotel just can stay there.

Can anyone advise is it easy to find long time in Jakarta like freelancer and girls from the hotels.

I would prefer to grab a girl and take them overnight but not sure if possible there.

Thanks.RTFF. It means Read The F. Forum. There is enough info on all the queries that you have raised. People have put in great effort to pen their experiences. Give some respect for that effort and read the posts before you ask questions.

Hihi Ster
09-06-17, 03:36
here's a non-comprehensive list of some places (in no particular order). Every one of them has hot girls. You can research each one on the internet using google searches. Knock yourself out.
Atlantis Spa? Are you sure about that one Smoothy?

Didn't peg you for the type.

Smoothy
09-06-17, 05:29
Atlantis Spa? Are you sure about that one Smoothy?

Didn't peg you for the type.If I'm not mistaken, that one is already closed. Thanks for correcting my statement that there are hot girls at all of the places on that list. That one looks to be the exception. lol. But that list gives you plenty of options.

Manny51
09-06-17, 06:48
Illigals is like 5 story building. With nightclub downstairs, karaoke level 2, level 3 massage, spa level 4 and hotel level 5. I think those are the levels.

Spa got the freelance girls and "special" theme room. You can take girl to a gym room where she dresses in gym clothes and you fuck her on a weights bench, exercise ball or yoga mats. Or you take hospital room and she puts on nurses uniform and you fuck her on a observation bed, sofa or desk. Or there is an office room where you fuck your secretary girl on a large desk.

Fun if they keep in character but hard if you girl not good at english.

Thanks.Hi guys!

Excited about my upcoming 3 night stop in Jakarta. Been looking forward to this for a long time. Fun Fun!

I am currently reading the forum. Seem like Alexis and Malioboro are the prime places to go, which only seem a little more expensive then the other venues, but worth it to many.

However, I did have some questions:

1. Does this place Illegals really have fantasy themed rooms? I haven't read about that anywhere else, and its not on their website. But if so, this would definitely be worth checking out.

2. Hotel Classic. I am getting confused about the terminology everyone is using around Hotel Classic. Is there a Hotel Classic 1 and 2, meaning different venues? Or are you referring to the floors? Does Terminal refer to the club inside Hotel Classic? Is this the same as Classic Hotel on JI Samanhudi?

3. Some great analyses of both Alexis and Malioboro. Is there a best time of day/night to go to these places? Or are there always plenty enough ladies to talk to? Feel free to comment on any differences or preferences between the two -- in case I had to choose.

4. Last, completely unrelated question. Is there a good street market where I can pick up some cheap / fake sneakers, like Converse Chuck Taylors, Adidas Superstars and Stan Smiths? I have heard of ITC mall as one place in North Jakarta. I bought 4 pars of Chuck taylors for $8 each in Kalibo PI a few years ago, and wish that I had bought more!

Thanks in advance!

Smoothy
09-06-17, 08:44
Moon Rider Blok M had an anniversary party last night and it was a great time! This is the old Highway to Elle and there isn't much coverage on this bar.

7'ish dancers which were throwing back drinks and interacting with the customers in between dancing on the bar. Some management from Dee's is helping to get the place going. A lot of potential here and a fun party atmosphere.

Great spot to drink a beer and play around with the girls. I will be back.I found a couple of photos of that event.

Fast Eddie 48
09-07-17, 02:54
Thanks Smoothy for posting all these joints.

I m newbie so I had no idea what to expect. The popular spots classic, travel a definite visit for me.

I m more into services and if the two girls in the pics are good, I'll prefer them over hot girls that are starfish / don't BBBJ.

I presume Spa means sauna etc .
I don't need spa facilities, don't use them.

Maybe massage plus BBBJ FJ. Or.

Even better the fishbowl setup pick and go rm FJ.

Be there for one week.To Datiao.

I know that you are on a budget trip Classic and hotel travel is a low end brothel but you might not get BBBJ nor a massage it is a hit and miss place, many low end brothel in Manga besar are closed I think Kota indah bar will also be closed soon.

You should go to a high end place like Alexis or Mailboro or go to some high end club spoil yourself for once you get what you paid for, if you want just cheap mongering there are many other place cheaper than Jakarta.

Fast Eddie 48.

Datiao
09-07-17, 16:07
To Datiao.

I know that you are on a budget trip Classic and hotel travel is a low end brothel but you might not get BBBJ nor a massage it is a hit and miss place, many low end brothel in Manga besar are closed I think Kota indah bar will also be closed soon.

You should go to a high end place like Alexis or Mailboro or go to some high end club spoil yourself for once you get what you paid for, if you want just cheap mongering there are many other place cheaper than Jakarta.

Fast Eddie 48.Thanks Fast Eddie for the info.

Alexis is too high priced for me, Malio maybe a visit.

It's my first trip to Jakarta so I just want to experience many places within my budget.

Sad to hear closure of joints at manggar besar.

Can you recommend some budget joints for BBBJ and FJ?

Many places cheaper? I could only think of Angeles city or Sihanoukville.

LA Guy 5
09-08-17, 01:09
To Datiao.

I know that you are on a budget trip Classic and hotel travel is a low end brothel but you might not get BBBJ nor a massage it is a hit and miss place, many low end brothel in Manga besar are closed I think Kota indah bar will also be closed soon.

You should go to a high end place like Alexis or Mailboro or go to some high end club spoil yourself for once you get what you paid for, if you want just cheap mongering there are many other place cheaper than Jakarta.

Fast Eddie 48.Hi Fast Eddie.

Is your statement you think the Kota Indah bars will be closed soon based on solid information or just speculation? I think we all know the political and religious situation in Jakarta puts many brothels across the price spectrum at some level of risk, but I am wondering whether you have reason to focus specifically on the Kota Indah places in terms of risk of closure.

Someone here, who often gives unreliable information so I took his comment with a grain of salt, claimed last year he had inside information the Kota Indah bars would all be closed by the authorities by the end of the year, but the end of the year came and went and they were all still open. But you usually post accurate information so I am wondering whether you are now just posting a hunch about the Kota Indah bars, or have some concrete information about them.

UsPete
09-08-17, 13:49
Hi Fast Eddie.

Is your statement you think the Kota Indah bars will be closed soon based on solid information or just speculation? I think we all know the political and religious situation in Jakarta puts many brothels across the price spectrum at some level of risk, but I am wondering whether you have reason to focus specifically on the Kota Indah places in terms of risk of closure.

Someone here, who often gives unreliable information so I took his comment with a grain of salt, claimed last year he had inside information the Kota Indah bars would all be closed by the authorities by the end of the year, but the end of the year came and went and they were all still open. But you usually post accurate information so I am wondering whether you are now just posting a hunch about the Kota Indah bars, or have some concrete information about them.Kota Indah is more about drinking than mongering. Some pubs have pool tables, some have dart boards. It just so happens that the Kota Indah bars have cages of girls. It's a bit of a sideshow. Really can't see these bars being under anyone's political radar especially as they are well-managed by Laskar Merah Putih.

The funny story I heard is that the Antik Disco is trying to claim some heritage status from the city council as it's been satisfying the local population's itches since the Batavia era.

I guess if someone (and this does happen) is foolish enough to start a gambling house it wouldn't be tolerated. Drugs is another issue which doesn't help. But these problems are metropolitan wide and can't be pinpointed to a back-water like Kota Indah / Tamansari.

Headcheck
09-08-17, 19:13
1. Does this place Illegals really have fantasy themed rooms? I haven't read about that anywhere else, and its not on their website. But if so, this would definitely be worth checking out.

Would recommend against Illegals. Especially for the club / karaoke, its not "police-raid proof". If you want a wilder experience than Alexis / Malio, then try Emporivm in Jalan Pecenongan.

2. Hotel Classic. I am getting confused about the terminology everyone is using around Hotel Classic. Is there a Hotel Classic 1 and 2, meaning different venues? Or are you referring to the floors? Does Terminal refer to the club inside Hotel Classic? Is this the same as Classic Hotel on JI Samanhudi?

Basically its one Hotel. There is just 3 different Halls inside the same venue. Think of a soapy in Bangkok if you've been to one. One building with a few different sets of girls.

3. Some great analyses of both Alexis and Malioboro. Is there a best time of day / night to go to these places? Or are there always plenty enough ladies to talk to? Feel free to comment on any differences or preferences between the two -- in case I had to choose.

Alexis to Chill and Relax first, definitely go around 3 pm-5 pm is the best time. Most girls would arrive by then, but not too many mongers.

Malioboro if you want to go have a few drinks first since it has a quite nice strip club downstairs. Be careful don't get too crazy on the Ladies Drinks.

1001/ The Pool, at the same building as Colloseum Club is the best IMHO. Very similar pricing with Alexis. Think of a huge German Spa / FKK but without any public actions.

4. Last, completely unrelated question. Is there a good street market where I can pick up some cheap / fake sneakers, like Converse Chuck Taylors, Adidas Superstars and Stan Smiths? I have heard of ITC mall as one place in North Jakarta. I bought 4 pars of Chuck Taylors for $8 each in Kalibo PI a few years ago, and wish that I had bought more!

Try ITC Manga Dua, its a huge complex, you might get lost, but you will find what you are looking for there, as an added bonus its not that far away from Alexis or The Pool.

Smoothy
09-08-17, 22:41
The funny story I heard is that the Antik Disco is trying to claim some heritage status from the city council as it's been satisfying the local population's itches since the Batavia era.I find it hard to believe that dump is even still in business. The last time I walked in there, the girls were every bit as ugly as the old hags at Bali Hai just before it closed down for good.

PrinceMV2
09-09-17, 03:17
I was in Jakarta recently for few days and will try to write a detailed post as soon as am free from my China trip.

Regarding classic the first floor club has better quality of girls than ground floor club. And yes I got nice BBBJ and quite satisfactory fuck from a 20 years young gal with quite nice figure, tall with big ass. All including 382000 rupiah. At ground floor you can suck as many naked boobs as you wish and grab the naked asses of dancer girls if you can offer a few drinks.

Even 5 drinks will cost less than 20 usd. I did a deal with a full nude dancer and rubbed her ass with my tool against the bar for full five minutes for 1 lakh rupiah that is about 7 USD I think. And the nude dancers have very good bodies.

Cheers.


Thanks Fast Eddie for the info.

Alexis is too high priced for me, Malio maybe a visit.

It's my first trip to Jakarta so I just want to experience many places within my budget.

Sad to hear closure of joints at manggar besar.

Can you recommend some budget joints for BBBJ and FJ?

Many places cheaper? I could only think of Angeles city or Sihanoukville..

Datiao
09-09-17, 08:43
Prince.

Glad you have a good time.

I presumed classic both floors have the same pricing and set up.

Where else did you try?

Smoothy
09-09-17, 11:02
full five minutes for 1 lakh rupiahLakh? Sounds like you should try visiting De Leila.

UsPete
09-09-17, 11:10
I find it hard to believe that dump is even still in business. The last time I walked in there, the girls were every bit as ugly as the old hags at Bali Hai just before it closed down for good.Bali Hai next to The Club in BlokM? Even the family of mosquitoes drew straws to see who was going to bite those old hags.

Pipe Layer99
09-09-17, 12:10
Regarding classic the first floor club has better quality of girls than ground floor club. And yes I got nice BBBJ and quite satisfactory fuck from a 20 years young gal with quite nice figure, tall with big ass. All including 382000 rupiah. At ground floor you can suck as many naked boobs as you wish and grab the naked asses of dancer girls if you can offer a few drinks.
Even 5 drinks will cost less than 20 usd. I did a deal with a full nude dancer and rubbed her ass with my tool against the bar for full five minutes for 1 lakh rupiah that is about 7 USD I think. And the nude dancers have very good bodies.Just to avoid any confusion about the floor levels, the ground floor has the Bunker, near the front entrance.

If you take the elevator up to one of the other brothels, you want level 2 and 5. If one has any doubt, as the elevator guy for girls. :)

Smoothy
09-10-17, 07:28
Just to avoid any confusion about the floor levels, the ground floor has the Bunker, near the front entrance.

If you take the elevator up to one of the other brothels, you want level 2 and 5. If one has any doubt, as the elevator guy for girls. :)Someone tells me there is a basement level as well with a spa. And he says the girls are hotter there than on any of the other levels.

IllusionHeart
09-10-17, 08:17
Someone tells me there is a basement level as well with a spa. And he says the girls are hotter there than on any of the other levels.Yes there was a basement level as well when I visited. Extremely dark, had to use phone torch to actually see the girls faces which were paraded for me by the mamasan. I think I paid 800000 Rp excluding tips. They do have the sauna and hot pool area there in case one wants to relax similar to Malioboro. However girls do not accompany you in the pool as in case of Alexis.

Hotter is an individual perspective. I enjoyed more with girl on the 5th floor. Choices were plenty more compared to the basement.

Menteng
09-10-17, 10:40
Bali Hai next to The Club in BlokM? Even the family of mosquitoes drew straws to see who was going to bite those old hags.Bali Hai has a special place in my heart. Yes, most of the wg's were old hags, but I found it special to have a massage in the corner while getting a BBBJ. And it was also a good enough place for me to go upstairs with one of the Falatehan "conquests".

Fast Eddie 48
09-12-17, 01:13
Hi Fast Eddie.

Is your statement you think the Kota Indah bars will be closed soon based on solid information or just speculation? I think we all know the political and religious situation in Jakarta puts many brothels across the price spectrum at some level of risk, but I am wondering whether you have reason to focus specifically on the Kota Indah places in terms of risk of closure.

Someone here, who often gives unreliable information so I took his comment with a grain of salt, claimed last year he had inside information the Kota Indah bars would all be closed by the authorities by the end of the year, but the end of the year came and went and they were all still open. But you usually post accurate information so I am wondering whether you are now just posting a hunch about the Kota Indah bars, or have some concrete information about them.To LA,

What is the big deal if all the Kota Indah bar closed next week or next year you really miss this area that much, this bar is cater to local all my customer and local friend like to go therer for cheap drinking and sing with the girls, I didn't even go there in may and I when there last Oct. A few time with local friend didn't even pick any girl quality is going down hill, if you been to Jakarta lately you should know many business in Manga Dua area have been closing down.

Fast Eddie 48.

Smoothy
09-12-17, 05:55
I wouldn't mind seeing all of the brothels in Jakarta closed. That would free those girls up to be free lancers in the various bars around town and would drive the price of free lancers down.

LA Guy 5
09-12-17, 06:13
To LA,

What is the big deal if all the Kota Indah bar closed next week or next year you really miss this area that much, this bar is cater to local all my customer and local friend like to go therer for cheap drinking and sing with the girls, I didn't even go there in may and I when there last Oct. A few time with local friend didn't even pick any girl quality is going down hill, if you been to Jakarta lately you should know many business in Manga Dua area have been closing down.

Fast Eddie 48.I was just asking you what you were basing your information on about the Kota Indah bars closing. Assuming we are talking about the bars in Komplek Kota Indah, it would seem from your response you are basing your "information" on not much of anything.

ABCinLA
09-12-17, 06:48
I'll find out within the week if the bars are opened or closed as I'll travel up there up from Classic hotel.

Lala Bay
09-12-17, 10:16
Hi all,

Sorry to bother, but google was not too successful so I'm hoping for your assistance.

I've not been in Classic for a few years and was wondering whether you could give me an update on the situation? Seems that level 2 is pretty much the same deal as it used to be, but what's up with level 1 and level 5? Prices? Quality?

(Also, I read a lot about Emporivm and Alexis, but am not really clear on whether its worth it or not? Money is not so much the issue, but Classic always seemed to have cute young girls?! Whats the benefit of Alexis / Emporivm? Or do you just to go for the clubs. Which is a bit lacking in Classic.).

Thanks a lot!

JasonLc
09-12-17, 16:16
Hi,

I'm new here. And I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask. I'll be traveling to Jakarta soon. I'm wondering if it's possible to get brand cialis or good generic cialis in Jakarta over the counter without prescription? And what are the price like? Please enlighten me if any bro out there have experience on this. Your help will be much much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Smoothy
09-12-17, 16:27
I'll find out within the week if the bars are opened or closed as I'll travel up there up from Classic hotel.Don't waste your time. They are open. As far as I know, ALL of the brothels in Jakarta are still open. The only one in all of Jakarta that I know of closing in the last year or so was Maribaya. The places that closed recently were not brothels, they were drug infested discos.

On a different note, it seems the Delta Spa locations are slowly closing down one by one. I guess guys don't care about a good massage as much as cheap sex. Delta is basically the best real massage in town. Damn shame it's struggling.

Smoothy
09-12-17, 16:31
I've not been in Classic for a few years and was wondering whether you could give me an update on the situation? So it seems you have been in Classic before then. The only major change in the last 10 years is that the ground floor bunker bar no longer has imports.

Lala Bay
09-12-17, 18:51
So it seems you have been in Classic before then. The only major change in the last 10 years is that the ground floor bunker bar no longer has imports.It's probably been 6 years. What are the prices now?

Frankie555
09-13-17, 02:01
Hi,

I'm new here. And I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask. I'll be traveling to Jakarta soon. I'm wondering if it's possible to get brand cialis or good generic cialis in Jakarta over the counter without prescription? And what are the price like? Please enlighten me if any bro out there have experience on this. Your help will be much much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.Yes brand Cialis is available at most if not all apotik, but not cheap, approx 150,000 IDR / 20 MG tablet.

Never tried generic but likely also available.

PrinceMV2
09-14-17, 06:08
100000. One hundred thousand.


Lakh? Sounds like you should try visiting De Leila..