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KilledSoul
01-30-18, 22:55
These cougars are freebies, right?I don't think so. Most of them charge upwards of 1.2 million IDR.
Went to dragonfly club on later that night. I didn't notice too many WG's on a Friday night. May be because of cover charge. Decent music but the place is not as posh as in the reviews. Decent crowd but by no means trendy. Again couple of cougars were very interested. I returned alone to hotel.Cougars in Dragon Fly? LOL. You must be pretty damn young to think that. One of my favorite girls who told me she was there just last Wednesday with her friends from high school is only 19 years old, so I know there are young girls in there these days as well. The average aged girl who goes there is in her mid to late 20's or early 30's. In my opinion, those are not cougars. I consider a cougar to be over 40. You won't find many over 40's in Dragon Fly.
Wednesday, Friday and Saturday are the nights for Dragon Fly.
Can someone please advise the name of this establishment?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3tnFuQ-Ur0
Staying in my hotel after my horrible experience at Hotel Classic (#12156), I was in two minds whether to go back at the peak 2100 hrs to Classic with lessons learnt or try Malio club instead. After re-reading Ryo's post I decided it will be best if I don't fall into sunk cost fallacy and instead should try Malio. Reached outside the Malio around 2130 hrs. I tried to directly enter without going through the metal detector. The security guard politely said to come through the metal detector, I didn't have any problem with that as I was carrying nothing dangerous other than my dick. Once entered I was directed to reception and given a band and said the minimum expenditure should be 150k IDR. I said ok, and I walked into the Malio maze. I don't know where I went but I ended up somewhere which seemed to like a restaurant, walked out of there ASAP.
While roaming around, I saw three sexy ladies dressed in one pieces and asked one of them who was wearing a tight fitting red dress where the Malio Club was. She told me to follow her for Malio Club. I would have followed that chick even to the Mars. Well we went into the elevator and reached what I am guessing as the second level of the building to the balcony of the Club. From the parapet I looked down, I saw group of girls (maybe 6) dancing on a square stage, finally I reached the right place.
Went down and sat at the stool just infront of the stage. A mamasan or a waiter-in-chief approached me as she guessed its my first time there. She showed me menu on a tablet and from it I ordered some cocktail. From then I enjoyed my drink alone. Nobody approached me nor did I. After sometime a lady sat next to me. I began talking to her. And offered her a lady drink. Called the waiter and said him to give her a lady drink, he told me you cannot give here a lady drink but you can take her to room for 1.2 million. After hearing a million I tuned out and lost interest as the girl was not that attractive. I still told him to bring a beer for her so that I can chat with her a little more. She tried to convince me during the talk for "chici chici"boom boom" but I politely told that I just want to relax. In the meantime I saw next to me an old japanese wearing a Malio bathrobe getting a lapdance. Well this what I came for. I called the waiter, and pointed him to the stripper grinding that grandpa and said that will be my next order.
Waiter went away to find dancers and after some time two dancers approached me. One of them was clearly not interested just after looking at me. And she excused herself from this situation. But one of the two stayed. She introduced herself and asked for drinks. I said two drinks to the waiter but she insisted three. Well I succumbed to the demand this time and many more times later that night to detriment of my wallet After getting the drinks she started her work. While grinding I was keeping my hands on her waist, she told me that she just got a tattoo and not to keep my hands on her waist but I can keep it on her boobs. Well I was more than happy to oblige to the request. While all this was happening a new dancer just entered the club. My girl pointed to her and said that girl is her sister. Well, I don't know how their parents raised them but I was not going to show favoritism among the siblings. So I told her to call her sister too. And thus I ended up with two of the sisters on my both sides. The stool in front of the stage was not every comfortable and they said lets go upstairs.
We settled in one those balcony booths. Soon a girl with chinese features came and introduced herself as Jessica. She was cute as a button with long never ending legs. To deviate a little bit, one of the security guys came from the ground floor and stood in front my booth. I don't know what was special about me or my situation that he took such an interest. Pretty sure guys with 3 dancers with a guy are a norm there though that night was a little bit slow. This didn't faze me to enjoy my company, because I didn't travel to Jakarta to show modesty. After some time he did give me thumbs up though. And to cut the long story short, I had a blast with these three girls, spending around 5 drinks for each of the three. I also talked to my waiter at length and figured out somewhat how the club works. At last gave him 50/100 IDR tip and went to the billing section. The expense for the whole night was 1.7 million IDR.
Don't know whether this is less or more but I was happy with Malio after the horrible experience I had at classic. To anybody who will be going to Jakarta for the first time, just remember: "Always bet on Malio".Hey don't get me wrong. Its your money but. Yes you had a great time but was there more than just a lap dance and some slap and tickle?
These cougars are freebies, right?I don't think they are really cougars. He may be referring to the girls in their mid to late 20's and early to even late 30's. Many of them are still sexy. No doubt the girls in CJs are older than at the brothels in North Jakarta. Then again, the girls in CJs can speak English and will stick their tongue up your ass and screw your brains out (the older girls will, the younger ones may not). The young girls at Hotel Classic are starfish. There are also some young girls at CJs (admittedly not many), and they will also provide better service than at Hotel Classic.
And they do want money.
Personally, I prefer young 20 year olds, so I don't take the CJs girls home often. But I can speak Indonesian so I don't care if the girls can speak English. There is a definite market for the CJs girls. Mostly tourists who can't speak any Indonesian. However, I take the CJs girls on occasion too. I think they are good fun. But I wouldn't call them "cougars". I consider a cougar to be over 40 years old. They call cougars "tante girang" in Indonesia. And if you are a young, good looking guy, the cougar will pay you, you don't pay the cougar. A cougar would have zero interest in me, I am too old for them. So considering that basically every girl in CJs will want to go home with me, that right there disqualifies them as cougars. LOL.
This is a recent photo inside CJs. I'm curious if you any of you guys consider these to be cougars?
The girls in the photo are certainly not cougars IMO unless one is an adolescent. Late 20's maybe 30 something I guess. Very doable, especially the busty one on the left. Cheers.
I don't think they are really cougars.
Maybe the one on the left is approaching my upper limit, though she is the type of package I prefer.
This is a recent photo inside CJs. I'm curious if you any of you guys consider these to be cougars?
John Aldrich
01-31-18, 20:38
Can someone please advise the name of this establishment?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3tnFuQ-Ur0It is 1001 executive club.
I don't think they are really cougars. He may be referring to the girls in their mid to late 20's and early to even late 30's. Many of them are still sexy. No doubt the girls in CJs are older than at the brothels in North Jakarta. Then again, the girls in CJs can speak English and will stick their tongue up your ass and screw your brains out (the older girls will, the younger ones may not). The young girls at Hotel Classic are starfish. There are also some young girls at CJs (admittedly not many), and they will also provide better service than at Hotel Classic.
And they do want money.
Personally, I prefer young 20 year olds, so I don't take the CJs girls home often. But I can speak Indonesian so I don't care if the girls can speak English. There is a definite market for the CJs girls. Mostly tourists who can't speak any Indonesian. However, I take the CJs girls on occasion too. I think they are good fun. But I wouldn't call them "cougars". I consider a cougar to be over 40 years old. They call cougars "tante girang" in Indonesia. And if you are a young, good looking guy, the cougar will pay you, you don't pay the cougar. A cougar would have zero interest in me, I am too old for them. So considering that basically every girl in CJs will want to go home with me, that right there disqualifies them as cougars. LOL.
This is a recent photo inside CJs. I'm curious if you any of you guys consider these to be cougars?In my last visit to Jakarta in 2015 I did not visit CJs but if these are a representative sample of the fare there and they give good service I will place it on my to do list in my visit to Jakarta next year. Although I was not impressed by the service at Classic I will include it for my cheap thrills. Its been many years since I last did a cougar, who I agree is a woman over 40, and am not averse to doing one but have no intention of paying for the privilege. I have never done an Asian cougar and should put that on my bucket list. The closest was a 37 year old Thai.
This is a recent photo inside CJs. I'm curious if you any of you guys consider these to be cougars?The photo is not sharp enough and the lighting is not that great. But Smoothy, what did the lady of the left say was her age?
The photo is not sharp enough and the lighting is not that great. But Smoothy, what did the lady of the left say was her age?I don't know. I've never been with her. They were friends of the girl I was with that night. If I had to guess, I'd say the one on the left is early 30's and the one on the right is 23 or 24.
Agreed. Though I would say the one on the left could be as high as mid 40's. If the girl keeps in shape, it gets harder to tell when they are over 27. Especially from a picture. Happy hunting.
I don't know. I've never been with her. They were friends of the girl I was with that night. If I had to guess, I'd say the one on the left is early 30's and the one on the right is 23 or 24.
TheLongLoop
02-03-18, 10:12
Hello all!
My first time in Indonesia. Super excited to be here! Have been RTFF for almost a month now & thanks to all you legendary folks, I now have a fair idea on how to spend my next 2 days here. Staying put in Shangri-la hotel for the next 2 days before heading out to Bali & hoping BATS won't disappoint me tonight. Not sure how action packed is BATS on a Saturday night but hoping to score high!
Booked a double occupancy & hoping there won't be any issues bringing the lady to my room. Should I be checking in my guest or just walk her to the room directly? Planning to buy some Vitamins for tonight's action. Would appreciate if someone could point me to a pharmacy nearby.
FRs from tonight's action to follow soon!
Cheers!
TLL.
Hello,
I plan on visiting Malaysia and Indonesia this May and was wondering if foot fetishes are mostly accepted (known about) in Indonesia by providers? Any experiences or recommendations would be appreciated.
SeaTraveler
02-03-18, 17:36
Hello all!
My first time in Indonesia. Super excited to be here! Have been RTFF for almost a month now & thanks to all you legendary folks, I now have a fair idea on how to spend my next 2 days here. Staying put in Shangri-la hotel for the next 2 days before heading out to Bali & hoping BATS won't disappoint me tonight. Not sure how action packed is BATS on a Saturday night but hoping to score high!
TLL.Your post reminds me of my first night at BATS back in August 2014 when I was working on Java. You'll get better with time as I did.
I always enjoyed getting there around 10 pm and getting a seat at the bar near the entrance. That way I could observe the ladies when they arrived.
Tastes differ, but in the dozen or so times I was there in 2014. There were always a large handful of ladies that appealed to me. Good Luck in that.
Interestingly, I am staying at the Shangri-La one night in April when I arrive and the last Friday night when I leave in May. I am curious to see how you will like it being at the hotel rather than staying elsewhere, which is what I did when working, because the Shangri-La was out of my price range at the time.
Rob.
Hello,
I plan on visiting Malaysia and Indonesia this May and was wondering if foot fetishes are mostly accepted (known about) in Indonesia by providers? Any experiences or recommendations would be appreciated.The foot is regarded as impure / furthest away from God in Indonesian (and many other asian) societies.
Providers are available but you will be limited to girls with a lot of experience with foreign fetishes rather than cheap local establishments. Try the expat bars or what's left of Blok M and be prepared to ask a few girls before you find someone who will deliver. Definitely settle terms BEFORE leaving the bar otherwise you will likely have a non performer when you arrive back in the room.
Enjoy.
TheLongLoop
02-04-18, 03:33
All set to explore offerings at BATS, went to Grand Indonesia mall for Vitamins & currency exchange. 13300 IDR per $ was the rate offered which was better than 13,035 being offered at the Shangri-La hotel. Next stop Guardian pharmacy. Cialis & Viagra was easy to purchase, no questions asked. 643 k for a pack of 4 pills works out twice what I normally pay back home.
Loaded with ammunition for the night, I head back to the hotel & then to BATS. Nothing interesting at 10 PM, I settle down just behind the bar area with a a ridiculously expensive jack & coke (192 k) As someone earlier pointed out, the place has a high concentration of cougars & those are the ones to approach you first. A couple of them tried their best to convince me how good they are in bed LOL. A little chat later they leave me alone. Some good numbers being played by the band, I wait for that elusive younger one. Earlier, while I was heading out to the mall I did see some interesting ones going away with a few bules. Guess last night's action started early & I missed out. A couple of Jack & cokes, I notice 2 ones at the bar & I eventually zero in on my hunt. Some pleasantries exchanged & I ask her what's she's doing later in the night, she straightaway quotes 6 mil to come with me! A few negotiations later she's ready for 2 mil. Grabs my arm & off we go to my room. The usual chat about, work & what brings me to Jakarta. Says she's a beautician staying with a friend in Jakarta. She liked the hotel room. A few minutes later off she goes to the shower. All the while I sensed she had one too many drinks. I come back from the shower & she's fast asleep! Hello! Kept saying sorry that she drank too much. Round one wasn't disappointing, but nothing interesting either. Super drink & barely awake, she keeps saying sorry for her state. Big turn off, I just couldn't think of round 2 , was tempted to send her away & head out to CJ's. I eventually did send her away but was too tired to go to CJs after a long flight the same day. Hoping to explore CJs & Malio today.
Cheers!
TLL.
Hello all!
My first time in Indonesia. Super excited to be here! Have been RTFF for almost a month now & thanks to all you legendary folks, I now have a fair idea on how to spend my next 2 days here. Staying put in Shangri-la hotel for the next 2 days before heading out to Bali & hoping BATS won't disappoint me tonight. Not sure how action packed is BATS on a Saturday night but hoping to score high!
Booked a double occupancy & hoping there won't be any issues bringing the lady to my room. Should I be checking in my guest or just walk her to the room directly? Planning to buy some Vitamins for tonight's action. Would appreciate if someone could point me to a pharmacy nearby.
FRs from tonight's action to follow soon!
Cheers!
TLL.Hi Dear, Shangri La is totally girl friendly, you can take girls without any hassle. You can take even two girls same time, no question asked. I did it multiple times and even twice Brought girls from outside clubs, no hassle. Enjoy your trip.
Loaded with ammunition for the night, I head back to the hotel & then to BATS. Nothing interesting at 10 PM. Guess last night's action started early & I missed out.For sure you did not miss out on any girls if you showed up at 10 pm. There is no talent there by 10pm. On a Saturday night, often the best girls won't even show up until midnight.
Did you get any photos of the girl?
The foot is regarded as impure / furthest away from God in Indonesian (and many other asian) societies.That's odd. I have had some Indonesian girls in the massage places suck my toes and lick my feet. And a few free lancers as well.
TheLongLoop
02-04-18, 17:47
Hi Dear, Shangri La is totally girl friendly, you can take girls without any hassle. You can take even two girls same time, no question asked. I did it multiple times and even twice Brought girls from outside clubs, no hassle. Enjoy your trip.Yes Melman, it is GF. No questions asked. Interestingly while checking in, the bell boy suggested me to check-out BATS if I wanted to have some fun in Jakarta.
Cheers!
TLL.
LOL! One of my Indo regulars would have me sit on the bed against the backboard, while she rides me and sucks my toes. Great view! And allows me to rest.
That's odd. I have had some Indonesian girls in the massage places suck my toes and lick my feet. And a few free lancers as well.
TheLongLoop
02-04-18, 18:27
For sure you did not miss out on any girls if you showed up at 10 pm. There is no talent there by 10pm. On a Saturday night, often the best girls won't even show up until midnight.
Did you get any photos of the girl?Agree. I did notice many girls walk-in past midnight. Is the scene pretty much the same in CJs? The one I took goes by the name Ria, petite & super energetic. Forgot to ask her friend's name though. This is the only pic I managed to shoot. The state she was in I could have taken many but just didn't know if she would allow, considering she's not a pro, or so I assume.
Hello,
I plan on visiting Malaysia and Indonesia this May and was wondering if foot fetishes are mostly accepted (known about) in Indonesia by providers? Any experiences or recommendations would be appreciated.My experience is that most girls will be happy to let you have your way with their feet. However, some may be ticklish and with those you have to take it very slowly, start with lightly licking their toes, they will giggle uncontrollably at first but with time they will get accustomed to it and succumb, some will take longer than others. Then there are those who will not like it at all and will continually push you away from their feet. It is hit or miss. I don't ask for foot fetish, I just get into it once in the room and experience the aforementioned reactions. You may ask for it in advance if you wish. If what you want is your feet spoilt then you can consider Smoothy's experience.
A couple of months ago on my way out of Jakarta I had made a reservation at one of the airport hotels. At the Spa reception I tried to avoid the expensive package and asked for a normal massage and an English speaking girl.
Got a girl of pleasant looks, she ain't the prettiest but she is super cool chick. She wore no bra! Seems that she hails from Jakarta and had previously worked at Hotel Olympic. And I had the impression I was her first foreigner. For the massage I opted for her the shiatsu which I enjoyed very much. She really does give a decent massage and not try to just rush through it.
The massage was quite good but she had left the bra and pants on. As usual she asked the question "What else would you like? I replied everything to which she replied "How much will you give me?" Anyway we enjoyed ourselves for quite a while; I would try the Spa, but ask for a different girl next time, to get a more experienced wilder girl.
Agree. I did notice many girls walk-in past midnight. Is the scene pretty much the same in CJs? The one I took goes by the name Ria, petite & super energetic. Forgot to ask her friend's name though. This is the only pic I managed to shoot. The state she was in I could have taken many but just didn't know if she would allow, considering she's not a pro, or so I assume.Cool. Looks like you got her to iron your clothes too! Good work.
LOL! One of my Indo regulars would have me sit on the bed against the backboard, while she rides me and sucks my toes.I love it when they do that!
Cougars in Dragon Fly? LOL. You must be pretty damn young to think that. One of my favorite girls who told me she was there just last Wednesday with her friends from high school is only 19 years old, so I know there are young girls in there these days as well. The average aged girl who goes there is in her mid to late 20's or early 30's. In my opinion, those are not cougars. I consider a cougar to be over 40. You won't find many over 40's in Dragon Fly.
Wednesday, Friday and Saturday are the nights for Dragon Fly.I did see three of them at Dragonfly that night and they were the only ones, out of say 50 women, who I would regard as cougar. They were definitely in 40's and they definitely looked odd. They just tried hard to cover their age and hence had a lot of makeup and tight ass pants. I am 31 BTW.
Agreed. Though I would say the one on the left could be as high as mid 40's. If the girl keeps in shape, it gets harder to tell when they are over 27. Especially from a picture. Happy hunting.I think its more on me to clear the air about the cougar comment. IMHO, some of the ladies that I met on ladies night at CJ's were far older than the oldest one. Left - in pic. Few of ladies. Say 15% were apparently over 45. The majority - 60% - were around 35 but they tried so hard to look younger with their makeup and attire they actually ended up looking older. 15% were OK. 10% were young. What do you guys think of Ms Jennifer astonish?
I actually felt bad about it the first time because I was worried when was the last time I clipped my toe nails. My feet were washed properly before because it is part of my routine! LOL! She started doing it because I would run out of steam. She would quietly and gently guide me into various positions that allowed me to rest while she did the work.
I love it when they do that!
I think its more on me to clear the air about the cougar comment. IMHO, some of the ladies that I met on ladies night at CJ's were far older than the oldest one. Left - in pic. Few of ladies. Say 15% were apparently over 45. The majority - 60% - were around 35 but they tried so hard to look younger with their makeup and attire they actually ended up looking older. 15% were OK. 10% were young. What do you guys think of Ms Jennifer astonish?I was in the queue at the entrance at CJs or BATS (never remember which is which) about 3 years ago and there was a young girl in her early 20's behind me. She was well dressed and certainly didn't seem to be a regular, so I did mention to her that if she was a hotel guest she could jump the queue but I didn't think it was really the nightclub for her, as lot's of old sad married men inside.
She replied politely in a strong Manado accent that she wasn't a hotel guest whilst furiously texting somebody on her mobile phone (as kids do these days). She then received a call and it was clear she was speaking to her friend who was inside the club, asking to borrow money.
The hilarious part was her friend inside was called "Oma". So I waited at the entrance and sure enough this lady comes outside the club to talk to her young friend at the entrance. And yes you've guessed it. It was her grandaughter! So she scolds her granddaughter - "you shouldn't come to borrow money from me at my workplace! And sends her packing with 50 k for a taxi.
I spent the rest of the night in the club getting drunk on gin and avoiding all the old hags with their saggy tits.
I was in the queue at the entrance at CJs or BATS (never remember which is which) about 3 years ago and there was a young girl in her early 20's behind me. She was well dressed and certainly didn't seem to be a regular, so I did mention to her that if she was a hotel guest she could jump the queue but I didn't think it was really the nightclub for her, as lot's of old sad married men inside.
She replied politely in a strong Manado accent that she wasn't a hotel guest whilst furiously texting somebody on her mobile phone (as kids do these days). She then received a call and it was clear she was speaking to her friend who was inside the club, asking to borrow money.
The hilarious part was her friend inside was called "Oma". So I waited at the entrance and sure enough this lady comes outside the club to talk to her young friend at the entrance. And yes you've guessed it. It was her grandaughter! So she scolds her granddaughter - "you shouldn't come to borrow money from me at my workplace! And sends her packing with 50 k for a taxi.
I spent the rest of the night in the club getting drunk on gin and avoiding all the old hags with their saggy tits.
So we are supposed to be of the impression that only saggy titty grandmas go to BATS? Haha.
In truth, the young working girls don't care that the guys are old. (Yes, if the girl was from Manado, she wasn't likely a working girl. Although you say her Grandma was a working girl, so perhaps she was as well.) The only thing the working girls care about is if you have money. Hell, those girls WANT older guys. Those are the guys with the cash. Admittedly, the older girls outnumber the hotties there due to the reason I am about to discuss (I believe).
The problem younger girls have in BATS is they normally cannot speak English, so they need to find a guy who either doesn't care about communicating verbally or who can speak Bahasa Indonesian. The majority of guys in there either can't speak any Indonesian or they are married and have no place to take a girl without paying for a hotel room.
Not too long ago, I recommended BATS to an 18 year old stunner who couldn't speak a word of English. I was out of town that night or I would have loved to have taken her home myself. She had worked as a dancer at one of the popular brothels in North Jakarta, but had recently quit and was in between work. This girl is one of the hottest girls I have ever met in Indonesia. 5 foot 6, great firm boobs, slim, pretty face, beautiful smooth young skin, long hair. Truly stunning. She went to BATS looking great and sent me a photo of what she looked like that night. I figured she'd be scooped up within 5 minutes. However, I was shocked when she didn't even get a customer for the night and went home alone. How the hell a young stunner like that doesn't get picked up is beyond me. Admittedly, she is a shy girl and a guy would have to approach her first. I would have been all over her two seconds after spotting her. Turns out she did talk to a few guys, but they lost interest when they couldn't communicate. (She literally speaks zero English). Sadly, I actually think the older scrags who can speak fluent English have the advantage there. Coincidentally, a friend of mine was visiting Indonesia for a week and he was there that night, so I recommended her to him via text when I found out he was in BATS. He did talk with her for a few minutes but decided the lack of communication was too big an obstacle and he went home alone as well. His loss. (he ended up taking her home a few nights later when I was back in town to facilitate the conversation and he fell in love with her and kept her the rest of the week).
There is a tall, big titty 19 year old from Sumatra who goes to BATS almost every Thursday who I have wanted to take home for months now. I just haven't had the opportunity. Hot hot hot.
So that people don't think there are only older girls, there are some young girls in BATS. They are girls who can normally speak at least some English. They may not be in the majority, but they do exist. This is the last girl I took home who I met inside BATS. Awesome girl! If I remember correctly, her name was Ina. Or maybe it was Oma? I forget.
This Friday night at CJ's. 10 pm – around 10 WGs. By 11 pm – I'd say, more than 25. Some were young, some were in their 30-ies.
Rejected approach of a young (but not so cute) looking girl, but surrendered to a girl who in her late 20-ies but with a very nice smile and good English. We flirted a while, had some beer together, listened the band. When it became too noisy, I suggested going out.
Deal was 100 USD, 3 hrs, as many shots as I could. She could not stay until morning that night, but said Saturday night could be all mine.
Great body (petite but with proportionally big breast and firm ass), good techniques. But what was the best – absolute 100% GFE.
Too bad I had a flight on Saturday afternoon (otherwise I would definitely repeat with her). Got her phone number. And hope she is available when I happen to be in Jakarta again.
I think its more on me to clear the air about the cougar comment. IMHO, some of the ladies that I met on ladies night at CJ's were far older than the oldest one. Left - in pic. Few of ladies. Say 15% were apparently over 45. The majority - 60% - were around 35 but they tried so hard to look younger with their makeup and attire they actually ended up looking older. 15% were OK. 10% were young. What do you guys think of Ms Jennifer astonish?Cougar par excellence.
This Friday night at CJ's. 10 pm around 10 WGs. By 11 pm I'd say, more than 25. Some were young, some were in their 30-ies.
Rejected approach of a young (but not so cute) looking girl, but surrendered to a girl who in her late 20-ies but with a very nice smile and good English. We flirted a while, had some beer together, listened the band. When it became too noisy, I suggested going out.
Deal was 100 USD, 3 hrs, as many shots as I could. She could not stay until morning that night, but said Saturday night could be all mine.
Great body (petite but with proportionally big breast and firm ass), good techniques. But what was the best absolute 100% GFE.
Too bad I had a flight on Saturday afternoon (otherwise I would definitely repeat with her). Got her phone number. And hope she is available when I happen to be in Jakarta again.Is this standard price for ST. Well 3 hrs. Or is this under? I was under the assumption and by my reading that at CJ's and BATS they wanted much more. Like 1. 5 to 2 mill? Or even higher? Or are you just a shrewd negotiator?
Is this standard price for ST. Well 3 hrs. Or is this under? I was under the assumption and by my reading that at CJ's and BATS they wanted much more. Like 1. 5 to 2 mill? Or even higher? Or are you just a shrewd negotiator?Prices of free lancers have dropped in Jakarta recently. It used to be the hottest girls wanted 2.5 million (which I always thought was crazy). Now, 100 usd is pretty much the price at both BATS and CJs. (about 1.3 million to 1.5 million rupiah).
I'm not sure why it is, but the girls tell me that times are tougher than before.
Tinder and wechat girl prices have also dropped.
Prices in the brothels are still the same, but they were always cheap.
What do you guys think of Ms Jennifer astonish?I didn't see her at CJs. I must not have been there that night. How much was she asking for short time?
Prices of free lancers have dropped in Jakarta recently. It used to be the hottest girls wanted 2.5 million (which I always thought was crazy). Now, 100 usd is pretty much the price at both BATS and CJs. (about 1.3 million to 1.5 million rupiah).
I'm not sure why it is, but the girls tell me that times are tougher than before.
Tinder and wechat girl prices have also dropped.
Prices in the brothels are still the same, but they were always cheap.Great news and thanks Smoothy. So rough guide to Wechat girls please?
Great news and thanks Smoothy. So rough guide to Wechat girls please?Sorry found your post re Wechat girls: "They normally want between 200 and 300 for massage and then extra for extra service. They will end up with between 600 and 800 if sex is included when it's all said and done. ".
I'm bad.
SeaTraveler
02-08-18, 14:17
Did Long Loop get sucked up in the excitement there?
Have been waiting for 2+ days to hear his CJ'S report.
When you come up for air, LL, let us know how things went at CJ'S.
SEA Traveler.
Can anyone share in PM some nice tried & tested girls. If She is good conversationist and knows the city well, would be perfect for me.
The drinks is on me for Whoever share such contact.
Thank you.
Hello,
Met her again today. She told me she still needs some extra cash that her daytime job cannot give her.
She prefers men above 40. She is not like a professional hooker more like a bit overweight but ready to please neighbour. She is surely one of the most talkative ladies I ever met. She will only stop talking when she takes care of your tool. She can do that very well.
Just connect to her before just before arrival or when you are already in Jakarta.
Greetings, Frits.Can you please share her number in PM? Thank you in advance.
Banana Boi
02-08-18, 19:12
Prices of free lancers have dropped in Jakarta recently. It used to be the hottest girls wanted 2.5 million (which I always thought was crazy). Now, 100 usd is pretty much the price at both BATS and CJs. (about 1.3 million to 1.5 million rupiah).What's the current rate for the top Malioboro girls?
What's the current rate for the top Malioboro girls?Unfortunately, I'm a bad one to direct a question about the most expensive girls in a brothel. I can tell you the cheapest there are 420 k. I don't take those expensive chicks at Malioboro. When the mamasan mentions 2 million, I don't even listen to the rest of what she says. For sure, it's 2 million and something. That's why I am not sad about Alexis closing. If I am going to spend that kind of money (which I really don't want anyway), I would want the girl coming home with me rather than for an hour in an upstairs room there at Malioboro.
However, I am sure someone else here does know the answer to that. Perhaps Natty?
Just a confirmation. All of the dancers around town seem to be wearing bikinis now. Not even topless.
Hi,
I will be visiting Jakarta for 5 days and will be staying at Hotel Mercure Chikini. It the hotel girl friendly and also let me know the pick up bars and massages with extras near by.
Thanks.
Banana Boi
02-13-18, 14:21
I will be in Jakarta later this week. Here is a list of places I plan on visiting. Let me know if I am missing a must see bar or spa. My question is which places are better earlier and which later?
Malioboro.
Classic.
Illigals.
Hotel Travel.
BATS.
CJ.
Also, it is easy to buy a SIM card and get some Rupiah at the airport? How much is taxi from the airport to my hotel near Malioboro?
Manfield04
02-13-18, 16:45
You change money at BNI at the airport. Taxi will generally cost around IDR 150,000.
Also, it is easy to get some Rupiah at the airport? How much is taxi from the airport to my hotel near Malioboro?
I will be in Jakarta later this week. Here is a list of places I plan on visiting. Let me know if I am missing a must see bar or spa. My question is which places are better earlier and which later?
Malioboro.
Classic.
Illigals.
Hotel Travel.
BATS.
CJ.
Also, it is easy to buy a SIM card and get some Rupiah at the airport? How much is taxi from the airport to my hotel near Malioboro?You can easily pick up a SIM card at the airport, but it will be much more expensive than if you pick it up anywhere other than the airport. I think at the airport they want 200k, and anywhere else it's 30k. Once you arrive at your hotel, they can tell you where to get one if you aren't in a rush to get one at the airport.
Rupiah, there are plenty of ATMs at the airport. You can see them as soon as you pass the passport check. If you want to exchange dollars, you can easily do that at the airport, but will get a worse rate than other places around town.
Price of a car to your hotel depends on which car you take. As usual in any country, pay no attention to anyone aggressively asking you if you want a taxi or car and walk right past those idiots to the official taxis and cars. If you take a bluebird taxi, I would guess around 150 k. A cheaper taxi, a bit less. But these taxis use meters so you don't have to worry about haggling the price. They charge a fair price and you pay the meter fare, tolls, and the airport surcharge of about 10k. I've never had an "official" taxi try to rip me off at the airport. A silverbird mercedes taxi, around 300 k. There is a cue for taxis at curbside. You go to a machine and get a number (there is one machine for bluebird and one for the other cheaper taxis, most locals will be taking the bluebirds because they have the best reputation so they will have the longer cue) and that is your number in the cue. Or you can go to the Goldenbird counter after immigration and book a car there. That isn't much more expensive than a taxi and includes tolls. I normally just book a Goldenbird car like an Innova or Avanza rather than taking a taxi. It's a bit more expensive but I feel it's a minimal upcharge for the comfort. Or you could take the new train. I think that costs 70 k and you could take a taxi from the train station to your hotel for about 30 k. Or you could take the Damri Bus. I think that is 40k. You would need to take a taxi from the bus station to your hotel. Or you could even call a Grab Car. I don't do that at the airport simply because it can be a hassle meeting them and I need wifi to call.
Your list is enough to keep you busy. I don't have any special recommendation other than those that are "must sees". Personally, I would throw Hotel Travel to the curb and replace it with King Cross in Kelapa Gading, but Hotel Travel is ok.
Ggekko2009
02-13-18, 18:22
I will be in Jakarta later this week. Here is a list of places I plan on visiting. Let me know if I am missing a must see bar or spa. My question is which places are better earlier and which later?
Malioboro.
Classic.
Illigals.
Hotel Travel.
BATS.
CJ.
Also, it is easy to buy a SIM card and get some Rupiah at the airport? How much is taxi from the airport to my hotel near Malioboro?Many of these places above do not generally open until later in the afternoon or evening. You can try Malioboro and Illigals for the massages and relaxation in the afternoon, but things would usually pick up only at night. Be prepared to have small change as the workers there are aggressive in asking for tips. Never been to BATS or Hotel Travel, so cannot provide feedback on those. Classic is pretty much a meat market, and the mommy-san can be pushy there. I never like that place much, but it's cheap. CJ will not open until 9 or 10 PM, but if you have the budget, that is the better place to visit. It is my preferred choice. Go there on Ladies night on Tuesday where the place will be packed with freelancers. Have fun!
Pretty much nothing at all in Jakarta starts early. If you aren't working, I would recommend not even waking up until noon. The earliest would be perhaps Hotel Classic or Hotel Travel at around 2 pm, but the selection of girls will be limited at that time. Malioboro will get going at around 3 or 4pm but all of the girls will not be there yet. Most places don't have all of their girls until 7 pm. Places like BATS and CJs don't get started until after 10 pm or even 11 pm. Ladies night at CJs is Wednesday night. Although no place starts early, there are plenty that are open late. You can stay at some places like My Bar, Colosseum, X2, Golden Crown, etc until 5am.
I would add to Smoothy's advice. I usually get SIMPati with a data plan because it has better coverage and I can tether is Wifi is worse than mobile data. But it will not matter since you are in Jakarta. Some other SIMs come with a small amount of data.
I also notice some ATMs spit out different denomination bills. Have small bills to pay exact amounts. Money exchange / hotel can break for you.
There is a VIP arrival service with or without transport. Looks like you have a full schedule! LOL
You can easily pick up a SIM card at the airport, but it will be much more expensive than if you pick it up anywhere other than the airport. I think at the airport they want 200k, and anywhere else it's 30k. Once you arrive at your hotel, they can tell you where to get one if you aren't in a rush to get one at the airport.
Rupiah, there are plenty of ATMs at the airport. You can see them as soon as you pass the passport check. If you want to exchange dollars, you can easily do that at the airport, but will get a worse rate than other places around town.
Your list is enough to keep you busy. I don't have any special recommendation other than those that are "must sees". Personally, I would throw Hotel Travel to the curb and replace it with King Cross in Kelapa Gading, but Hotel Travel is ok..
I will be in Jakarta later this week.
Ggekko2009
02-13-18, 19:44
Pretty much nothing at all in Jakarta starts early. If you aren't working, I would recommend not even waking up until noon. The earliest would be perhaps Hotel Classic or Hotel Travel at around 2 pm, but the selection of girls will be limited at that time. Malioboro will get going at around 3 or 4pm but all of the girls will not be there yet. Most places don't have all of their girls until 7 pm. Places like BATS and CJs don't get started until after 10 pm or even 11 pm. Ladies night at CJs is Wednesday night. Although no place starts early, there are plenty that are open late. You can stay at some places like My Bar, Colosseum, X2, Golden Crown, etc until 5am.Oops, Ladies night at CJ is in fact on Wednesday instead of Tuesday as I had previously posted. Got my day wrong, I was probably too drunk to recall the day then, LOL.
Thanks, Smoothy. What is there to do during the day then? Go to mall? I've been to the monument and museum. QUOTE=Smoothy;2140805 Pretty much nothing at all in Jakarta starts early. If you aren't working, I would recommend not even waking up until noon. The earliest would be perhaps Hotel Classic or Hotel Travel at around 2 pm, but the selection of girls will be limited at that time. Malioboro will get going at around 3 or 4 pm but all of the girls will not be there yet. Most places don't have all of their girls until 7 pm. Places like BATS and CJs don't get started until after 10 pm or even 11 pm. Ladies night at CJs is Wednesday night. Although no place starts early, there are plenty that are open late. You can stay at some places like My Bar, Colosseum, X2, Golden Crown, etc until 5 am. QUOTE]
Thanks, Smoothy. What is there to do during the day then? Go to mall? I've been to the monument and museum.
Things to do during the day:
Massages, there are many smaller places opening from 11/12 noon, mostly in West and North Jakarta, Delta and My Place have several branches around the city. You can go a bit "off the beaten path" (For this forum at least) an try massage places like Orchardz, be-Fashion, FM1 etc for massage +++ in the afternoon. There's a blowjob shop up in PIK that used to do a buy 1 get 2 special, unfortunately these days they've stopped that but you do get a 20 k discount so it comes to 150 k for a BBBJ, no tips required.
There are so many massage shops around that focus on guys, best way to find them is in the "Nightlife & Events" section of the Kaskus forum (Moderate to advanced level of Indonesian skills required to follow any kind of conversation, but the opening posts with prices etc can usually be understood by a quick google translate) where they put on their prices, promotions, girls available each day with sometimes a link to an IG account with pics of those girls. They're obviously photoshopped most of the time but they don't make them very extreme. I'm currently training a girl from one of the smaller massage shops in doing a proper b2 b massage. She already gives a very proper massage and she's getting the hang of the b2 b part now as well.
Alternatively you call girls whose numbers you got from the previous night at CJ's or so, or roll the dice with WeChat / Twitter.
Have you tried the new museum of modern & contemporary arts nusantara? (MACAN) It's quite good. Movies in Jakarta are very good money, I love to go to "Premier Class", where you get luxury seats and waiter service for around 100k a movie (depending on the movie). Unfortunately Premier usually does not have dolby atmos so you need to go to the regular cinema's for that, which costs 50-75k, Atmos is usually only in the first screening room, bigger cinema's also in the second. (Cinema 1, 2, 3 etc).
If you find a girl you like you can take her on a daytrip to the 1000 islands (Pulau Seribu) from North Jakarta, but it depends on the season, don't do it now.
If you're active there's a good climbing wall down in Alam Sutera/Serpong, a google search of peak to peak jakarta should get you the information you need.
Marlboro Red
02-14-18, 11:35
Hi,
I am thinking of visiting Jakarta for a weekend, and having read the forum, I just wanted to share my thoughts, and if anyone could help it be great.
This is going to be a very rare visit, so I want to make it worth it (as they say) so far, my understanding is.
Malioboro is a spa with girls in the spa (that you can take out or there is a private room).
Malio Club is a strip club very near by, and while you can have sex with the girls there, there is no option for takeout (unless you agree something outside).
King Cross. Strip club and brothal.
Since I plan to be in town for a short time, I rather go for quality as I like them slim. Might also do a pickup in a club. (like Tiga Puluh or CJ).
One question, I keep on hearing that Kota in Jakarta have very nice places? Any suggestions. Thinking of staying at Aryaduta Jakarta.
Malioboro is a spa with girls in the spa (that you can take out or there is a private room).
Malio Club is a strip club very near by, and while you can have sex with the girls there, there is no option for takeout (unless you agree something outside).
King Cross. Strip club and brothal.
Since I plan to be in town for a short time, I rather go for quality as I like them slim. Might also do a pickup in a club. (like Tiga Puluh or CJ).
One question, I keep on hearing that Kota in Jakarta have very nice places? Any suggestions. Thinking of staying at Aryaduta Jakarta.Malioboro does have a spa, but there are no girls in the spa area. The girls are seated in a big room one floor above the spa where you select one and take her to a short time room upstairs. There are also dancers on a stage in that same room where the girls are seated (dancers used to be nude, but now all wear bikinis due to recent government restrictions). Malio club is in the same building as Malioboro, you just walk to the back side. It has girls seated to the right who are the same as the girls seated in the front area in that big room. You can take them upstairs for an hour in a room there. Malio club has more dancers than the front area with the big room of girls has, but again, they are wearing bikinis now. You can take the dancers as well, but they are more expensive than the seated girls. Local girls will range from 800 k to 1. 8 million depending on the girl. Imports from China, Uzbek, etc are over 2 million. You cannot take any girls out of Malioboro or Malio (you could, but it would be ridiculously expensive), you only take them upstairs in a room there for an hour.
King Cross is basically the same as Malioboro. It has a big room that has girls seated that you can select and dancers wearing bikinis. There is also karoake at King Cross if you like. King Cross is cheaper than Malioboro. I think the girls are between 700 k and 1 million now.
Forget Tigah Puluh, it died 10 years ago. CJs in Hotel Mulia and BATS in hotel Shangri-La are still good fee lance pickup spots though.
Aryaduta is fine. Older hotel, but nothing wrong with it. I think Harris Vertu is better though since it's brand new and in a better location.
I'm not sure what places you are thinking about when you say "Kota". Kota is the Indonesian word for city and is just a reference to the North Jakarta area. Malioboro is in Kota. There are tons of places in Kota. Malioboro, Hotel Classic, etc. King Cross is in the Kelapa Gading area which also has many good places.
...... You cannot take any girls out of Malioboro or Malio (you could, but it would be ridiculously expensive), you only take them upstairs in a room there for an hour......You can request to have the girl visit you during her day off where a better fee could be negotiated.
You can request to have the girl visit you during her day off where a better fee could be negotiated.Yes, you can try that, but I wouldn't count on her showing up. It's a great plan for those of us living in Jakarta who don't care if we lose a day by the girl not showing. If I were only in town a few days, I doubt I would rely on that strategy. If you do get a girl to show up at your place once, you can normally rely on her showing after that. But I've found that first time is elusive.
Yes, you can try that, but I wouldn't count on her showing up. It's a great plan for those of us living in Jakarta who don't care if we lose a day by the girl not showing. If I were only in town a few days, I doubt I would rely on that strategy. If you do get a girl to show up at your place once, you can normally rely on her showing after that. But I've found that first time is elusive.I did it once with a Mongolian girl I met in a visit there in 2015. I sessioned her on site and we agreed to meet at a mall close to my hotel on her day off. She turned up, bought some stuff and I bought her lunch after which we went to my hotel. If she had not turned up I would have had lunch anyway and sessioned somewhere later. Planning is key.
Eszpresszo
02-15-18, 01:41
I did it once with a Mongolian girl I met in a visit there in 2015. I sessioned her on site and we agreed to meet at a mall close to my hotel on her day off. She turned up, bought some stuff and I bought her lunch after which we went to my hotel. If she had not turned up I would have had lunch anyway and sessioned somewhere later. Planning is key.Good point. If you are only in town a short time, planning is extra important. I am going to KL next month, and have connected online with a number of OFW girls from different SEA nations. One in particular is eager to meet me as soon as I arrive. While I feel pretty confident she will show up, she isn't sure if she if wants to spend the night with me in my hotel. But, if she doesn't, I will still be within short walking distance of three or four different brothels and massage parlors I am interested in visiting anyways. It will hard for me NOT to get laid, regardless of her decision.
I'm not sure what places you are thinking about when you say "Kota". Kota is the Indonesian word for city and is just a reference to the North Jakarta area. Malioboro is in Kota. There are tons of places in Kota. Malioboro, Hotel Classic, etc. King Cross is in the Kelapa Gading area which also has many good places.So, I'm nitpicking here, but most of what usually is referred to as "Kota" is actually not North Jakarta but West and Central. For example Malioboro falls under the Central Jakarta district, as does Hotel Classic, however Colosseum and Travel are under West Jakarta.
Alexis is pretty much where North Jakarta starts, and if looking on a map is pretty much in the middle of that district, from Pantai Indah Kapuk in the west till Tanjung Priuk in the east.
Nitpickmode / off.
Marlboro Red
02-15-18, 04:39
So, I'm nitpicking here, but most of what usually is referred to as "Kota" is actually not North Jakarta but West and Central. For example Malioboro falls under the Central Jakarta district, as does Hotel Classic, however Colosseum and Travel are under West Jakarta.
Alexis is pretty much where North Jakarta starts, and if looking on a map is pretty much in the middle of that district, from Pantai Indah Kapuk in the west till Tanjung Priuk in the east.
Nitpickmode / off.Reading up on a wiki, it was said that Kota, or North Jakarta is the better place to be. Looking at the map, I consider places like Alexis and Golden Crown to be in that area.
Movies in Jakarta are very good money, I love to go to "Premier Class", where you get luxury seats and waiter service for around 100k a movie (depending on the movie). Premier is a great option for a fun lunchtime date. Book an early screening, say about 12 pm, who the hell goes to the cinema at that time? It will be virtually empty. Book two seats in a corner in the back row and enjoy fun under the blankets. I have a fond if somewhat bizarre memory of watching "Benjamin Button" and trying to make sense of what the hell was going on in the movie as I was continually distracted by a delightful young lady in a jilbab I had picked up and who was stretched over my seat giving me a blowjob while I had my fingers up her skirt and sticking in alternate orifices.
Heavens, that was fun, and you can order beer too.
Still can't for the life of me work out what that movie was about mind you.
Smoothy, your inbox is full, you popular fellow.
Reading up on a wiki, it was said that Kota, or North Jakarta is the better place to be. Looking at the map, I consider places like Alexis and Golden Crown to be in that area.Better place to be to go where? It depends where you want to go. I thought you said you wanted to go to Malioboro and CJs. Alexis is so far north that it's basically in Ancol. The further towards Ancol you get, the further you are away from anything else in Jakarta other than Ancol. (Alexis is closed.) If you intend on spending your time at Golden Crown, Orchardz spa, Club 36, Penjay, Hotel Travel, or Lokasari, then it might make sense sacrificing quality of hotel and staying further north. But Malioboro, Hotel Classic, Emporivm, and places like CJs and BATS are further down and you can get a nicer hotel.
If you want to go to Malioboro, you can stay in a very nice hotel at Harris Vertu right across the street from Malioboro and can walk there. If you want to go from there to Hotel Classic, you just turn left on Jalan Juanda and then left again and you are there in a few minutes. If you want to go to CJs, that is way on the other side of town regardless of where you stay in North Jakarta. There is a bus station right in front of that Harris hotel and you can take the bus to Kota station in about 5 minutes if you so desire. Keep in mind that if you want to stay near Mangga Dua mall (in between Alexis and Golden Crown and the true definition of the "Kota" area), all of the hotels in that area are shitty relative to a hotel like Harris Vertu. It's not as if Malioboro and Golden Crown are far apart. They are not.
So, I'm nitpicking here, but most of what usually is referred to as "Kota" is actually not North Jakarta but West and Central. For example Malioboro falls under the Central Jakarta district, as does Hotel Classic, however Colosseum and Travel are under West Jakarta.
Alexis is pretty much where North Jakarta starts, and if looking on a map is pretty much in the middle of that district, from Pantai Indah Kapuk in the west till Tanjung Priuk in the east.
Nitpickmode / off.Ha. I'll have to go into that explanation the next time I ask one of my expat friends living in South Jakarta if he wants to go to Malioboro and he answers with "I'm not going to North Jakarta, the traffic sucks up there!"
I like your premier movie idea. A movie like Benjamin button would be the perfect choice. Find a movie that will bore the girl so she will focus on you.
Pedros Needs
02-15-18, 14:27
I am a regular to Bali never have a problem meeting ladies, but am about to embark on my 1st trip to Jakarta.
Not at all in to the late night scene, I will be crashing by 11 pm as early morning starts.
Any suggestions on a not to expensive hotel that is close to a mall or establishment that will have a choice available late afternoon. Early night?
Would appreciate any intro to ladies, happy to reward all be it my capabilities are restricted to under an hour these days.
Feel free to PM me as opposed to cramming the site with what may be obvious to most.
Looking forward to my trip, none the least as be alone.
Pedro.
This is quite helpful Smoothy. Many thanks. I only have three days in Jakarta so I am staying at Classic then Tematik then Faletehaln. I hope I made some good choices. Are any of the movie theatres near any of these?
If you want to go to Malioboro.
Irish Mongrel
02-15-18, 19:58
Guys,
Has anybody been to the Blok lately since Top Gun has closed? Heading into town in a few weeks and have a free night (unfortunately a Sunday) to do a bit of late night bar hoping. Was wondering if My Bar and Dee's have picked up any of the slack or the death of Blok M is nigh and I may as well go to CJ's or BATS. Where do girls form CJ's and BATS drag their ass to these days if they don't get any business, doubt they're heading to Kemang. Might have to be a quick WeChat run to fill some boredom as I suspect Sunday is going to be dead in that part of town.
Thanks in advance.
Re: "Kota", My old monger board used that as an abbreviation for Kota Inda.
Interesting to see Smoothy reference Penjay. I realize it's not for the rookies here, but it gets precious little mention.
Banana Boi
02-16-18, 04:02
I'll be at grand Indonesia mall for lunch. Which is the best spa in the area to go after lunch?
I'll be at grand Indonesia mall for lunch. Which is the best spa in the area to go after lunch?For a real massage, Delta Spa Harmoni. Hot Stone massage. It's like 600 k for 2 and a half hours and a free hand job at the end included.
Harmoni Plaza, BL be 12 - 12 A unit 36 - 38 Jl. Suryopranoto No. 2.
Ph: 021-6385-3777.
Interesting to see Smoothy reference Penjay.Unfortunately, like Blok M, it's a spot of former good memories that has gone downhill relative to other options.
If you want to try an old time place that is rarely ever mentioned but has been restored to a point that is nicer than it ever was but the price remained low, try Medika (they call it New Medika now I think, but it's the same place). It's in an area with a lot of traffic until late evening, so wait until then to go. The rooms are nice and there are some nice girls there for less than 400 k. They used to have a topless female DJ, but with the new regulations, I doubt it anymore.
New Medika.
Jl. Daan Mogot I 27-33, Jakarta 11470.
Phone number +62-21 568 2610 (Behind Citra Land Mall).
Has anybody been to the Blok lately since Top Gun has closed? Heading into town in a few weeks and have a free night (unfortunately a Sunday) to do a bit of late night bar hoping. Was wondering if My Bar and Dee's have picked up any of the slack or the death of Blok M is nigh and I may as well go to CJ's or BATS. Where do girls form CJ's and BATS drag their ass to these days if they don't get any business, doubt they're heading to Kemang. Might have to be a quick WeChat run to fill some boredom as I suspect Sunday is going to be dead in that part of town.Sunday is very dead at Blok M. Sunday is dead everywhere else too, just not as dead. Maybe try CJs, but don't expect much.
Irish Mongrel
02-16-18, 10:22
Sunday is very dead at Blok M. Sunday is dead everywhere else too, just not as dead. Maybe try CJs, but don't expect much.Smoothy,
Thanks, yeah I was expecting as much. Used to spend a lot of time in Jakarta Mon-Sat, only ever had a couple of Sunday nights in town and I used them like the girls probably do. To recover. I did find some recent reviews on My Bar via google that suggests that it is still relatively busy in the late night hours, especially later in the week. Maybe give it a look on my next trip, although going by current frequency the blok will probably be under renovation by then!
I'm.
Banana Boi
02-17-18, 08:09
Made a huge mistake wasting time checking out Blok M last night. Never again! Friday night from 11 pm to 1240 am wasted in my life. Thought I was in Texas when I walked in to DS place. Country music. Wtf. At least DS place had one very pretty gogo girl. Slim with very short hair. Busty too. Eastern promise was worse for girls. Average age maybe 40 to 45 for girls. The band was amazing at eastern promise though. Walked into a couple of other bars there like my place but totally dead.
Did not go to octagon. Rushed back to go to hotel travel. Any info on octagon? Taxi driver recommended dragonfly but said girls 3 million. No thanks.
Bottom line I still like seeing gogo girls dancing. Can someone list the bars that still have gogo girls, even if not topless?
At least DS place had one very pretty gogo girl. Slim with very short hair. Busty too.If you liked one, you should have tried the VIP room. You can take those girls in the back VIP room at D's and fuck them or get a BJ if you want. Just have to negotiate price with them. That's a unique experience going back there and would have been worth trying once if you did have your eye on a girl.
The best time to go to D's is just prior to 2am because the girls at the Karaoke next door (I think the place is called Oktagon or something like that) finish their shift and sometimes come in and check for possible customers at that time. Some of those karaoke girls are nice. I wouldn't say that D's place plays country music very often. They mainly play pop and rock. But they mix in country and my favorite - indonesian dangdut. I can't complain about the music there, I like that they mix it up.
After 2am, if no sexy karaoke girls wander into D's place, you can walk next door and check out My Bar since it doesn't even have any customers until around 2am anyway.
I agree though, the Blok is basically now dead. Damn shame. It used to be awesome.
Banana Boi
02-17-18, 11:27
Unfortunately I couldn't talk to her she was with a guy already.
Banana Boi
02-18-18, 04:55
Topless at Hotel Classic Bunker last night as well. But not bottomless.Are the prices at bunker the same as classic on 3rd floor?
What is the proper tip to pay a girl at classic above the 350 k?
Are DFK and BBBJ not the norm at classic and travel. Have had girls at both not willing to DFK and BBBJ.
Pedros Needs
02-18-18, 10:42
Have a function in Tangerang that will require me to book a hotel close by.
Any advice on a good hotel, central to action or meeting ladies, not in to the lat night scene.
Might it be near a Mall or Shopping center where one may snag a gem and non WL?
Cheers.
Pedro.
What is the proper tip to pay a girl at classic above the 350 k?
In October 2016 I tipped 100 k Rupiah based on advice from this board. The chicks seemed reasonably happy about this.
Are the prices at bunker the same as classic on 3rd floor?
What is the proper tip to pay a girl at classic above the 350 k?
Are DFK and BBBJ not the norm at classic and travel. Have had girls at both not willing to DFK and BBBJ.Price is a bit cheaper at bunker but about the same. I love the rooms at bunker, they are so cool. It's like the pirates of the carribean ride at disney.
Normal tip is 100 k unless they insist on covered BJ. If they insist on that, I don't give them a tip. Many of those girls do insist on covered BJ and do not DFK. DFK is too personal for them. They wouldn't want to cheat on their Indonesian boyfriend. I have no problem with them not providing DFK, but I do have a problem with a condom for the bj.
Bad news. Here's a recent article saying the police are targeting the following places for shut down if they don't immediately crack down on people using drugs in those places. Some of our favorites are listed here.
Illigals.
Tematik.
Golden Crown.
Hotel Classic.
B'Fashion Club.
Happy Puppy (karaoke).
Hotel Travel.
New Monggo Mas.
Bandara (Diskotek).
Kota Indah.
Top 1 (diskotek).
You will need to use google translate to read the following link, but here it is.
https://news.detik.com/berita/d-3876682/buwas-ada-peredaran-narkoba-di-36-diskotek-di-jakarta?_ga=2.21495410.8904920.1519018428-1476338213.1517454236
Personally, I've never been offered drugs at any of those places and wouldn't take them even if I was offered them. I think the locals take drugs themselves anywhere there is music and it's dark. Maybe these places should just turn off the music and turn the lights up bright. That might solve the problem. (Might be tough for a karoake to turn off the music.).
Crocodilexp
02-22-18, 11:32
Are the prices at bunker the same as classic on 3rd floor?
What is the proper tip to pay a girl at classic above the 350 k?
Are DFK and BBBJ not the norm at classic and travel. Have had girls at both not willing to DFK and BBBJ.80% of the girls at Travel or Classic don't make anything above minimal effort (often less), so they don't deserve a tip. For others, I've given 50 k for acceptable service, to the few who weren't actively trying to make it bad. Even those would be unlikely to get a tip at other venues, but they did exceed the extremely low expectations at Classic or Travel. Nobody really stands in my mind as memorable, or deserving more than 50 k. Even some very low-end venues like former Kalijodo or fishbowls of Sanur, Bali, provided better service.
No, DFK and BBBJ are not the norm.
Bad news. Here's a recent article saying the police are targeting the following places for shut down if they don't immediately crack down on people using drugs in those places. Some of our favorites are listed here.
Illigals.
Tematik.
Golden Crown.
Hotel Classic.
B'Fashion Club.
Happy Puppy (karaoke).
Hotel Travel.
New Monggo Mas.
Bandara (Diskotek).
Kota Indah.
Top 1 (diskotek).
You will need to use google translate to read the following link, but here it is.
https://news.detik.com/berita/d-3876682/buwas-ada-peredaran-narkoba-di-36-diskotek-di-jakarta?_ga=2.21495410.8904920.1519018428-1476338213.1517454236
Personally, I've never been offered drugs at any of those places and wouldn't take them even if I was offered them. I think the locals take drugs themselves anywhere there is music and it's dark. Maybe these places should just turn off the music and turn the lights up bright. That might solve the problem. (Might be tough for a karoake to turn off the music.).I have been considering a 2019 visit to Indonesia. Will be keeping my eyes on developments re whether I should make this happen.
Banana Boi
02-25-18, 10:48
Bad news. Here's a recent article saying the police are targeting the following places for shut down if they don't immediately crack down on people using drugs in those places. Some of our favorites are listed here.
Illigals.
Tematik.
Golden Crown.
Hotel Classic.
B'Fashion Club.
Happy Puppy (karaoke).
Hotel Travel.
New Monggo Mas.
Bandara (Diskotek).
Kota Indah.
Top 1 (diskotek).
I would never return to Jakarta if Hotel Classic shut down. Hotel Travel was my 2nd favorite place in Jakarta. Although service was inconsistent I seemed to have gotten better service than recently reported on these 2 places.
I may have the opportunity to return in about 10 days but not sure if I should since I just left 5 days ago. Leaning towards going now if Classic and Travel are possibly shutting down soon. No signs of drugs or girls with visual effects of drugs from my daily visits on my recent trip.
Thanks for the info, Smoothy. Please advise if you get any updates.
Bad news. Here's a recent article saying the police are targeting the following places for shut down if they don't immediately crack down on people using drugs in those places. Some of our favorites are listed here.
Illigals.
Tematik.
Golden Crown.
Hotel Classic.
B'Fashion Club.
Happy Puppy (karaoke).
Hotel Travel.
New Monggo Mas.
Bandara (Diskotek).
Kota Indah.
Top 1 (diskotek).
You will need to use google translate to read the following link, but here it is.
https://news.detik.com/berita/d-3876682/buwas-ada-peredaran-narkoba-di-36-diskotek-di-jakarta?_ga=2.21495410.8904920.1519018428-1476338213.1517454236
Personally, I've never been offered drugs at any of those places and wouldn't take them even if I was offered them. I think the locals take drugs themselves anywhere there is music and it's dark. Maybe these places should just turn off the music and turn the lights up bright. That might solve the problem. (Might be tough for a karoake to turn off the music.).I may be wrong. But a detailed read tells me Bawas, the drug czar, wants a "commitment from the government" to shut down a list of venues he says are selling drugs, but he will "only publish if he gets a promise to shut them down from the government". The list of venues in the article are places that have received "stern warnings" in the past. Bawas also says the government needs to get serious about drugs, implying it currently is not serious about drugs. I am not at all trying to say Smoothy is wrong or that you shouldn't be careful, but the article looks like Bawas being Bawas. He's a public idiot whose promises mean roughly as much as Trump's.
I'm just a nob and a lurker on a mongering forum. My Indonesian is far from perfect. I am not a doctor, side effects of taking my advice may include blue balls and arrest. But I don't think it's time to worry just yet.
I may be wrong. But a detailed read tells me Bawas, the drug czar, wants a "commitment from the government" to shut down a list of venues he says are selling drugs, but he will "only publish if he gets a promise to shut them down from the government". The list of venues in the article are places that have received "stern warnings" in the past. Bawas also says the government needs to get serious about drugs, implying it currently is not serious about drugs. I am not at all trying to say Smoothy is wrong or that you shouldn't be careful, but the article looks like Bawas being Bawas. He's a public idiot whose promises mean roughly as much as Trump's.
I'm just a nob and a lurker on a mongering forum. My Indonesian is far from perfect. I am not a doctor, side effects of taking my advice may include blue balls and arrest. But I don't think it's time to worry just yet.SomeJerk I agree, you've got a more thorough understanding of the Indonesian media than our esteemed colleague Smoothy. At the end of March Mr Buwas is retiring officially from the civil service. He has put his CV out publicly and targeting the selectively listed Police managed entertainment spots in North Jakarta. He has made it clear his ambition post-retirement is to work as a security guard on the door of nightclubs.
In the big picture I think this is good news if drugs are being restricted from being used in the nightspots I monger in.
Ah. Nightlife and drugs. It's not like you can exterminate it.
Was at a club this weekend, we had just arrived and ordered our bottles when the head waiter came over to me and asked if I needed a doctor. Being pretty far gone already from a few bottles earlier that night, I didn't get it, until he said "Pharmacy?" when the penny dropped.
And seriously. Happy puppy? That shows how far they're going in their paranoia.
Thank you for all the amazing info and FRs in the Jakarta thread. Especially Smoothy; I did the homework but eventually went by Smoothy's recommendation of classic hotel in case time is limited in Jakarta. And it was definitely a satisfying choice!
Reached Classic hotel at about 11 pm and went to level 2. I entered the door and was handed a band and was told that the entry charge was 40 k. I must have missed this detail in the FRs but since it was not a large amount, I nodded and went in. The place is huge (I didn't realize till later!) but I got caught by an mms pretty quickly and she asked me my preference (I said someone small) and she created a six girl line-up within 4 minutes! I liked a smiling face in that line-up and chose her. Couldn't really understand her name, and I guess it doesn't matter. She was cute, petite, be cups, and not aggressive at all. We sat for sometime while I nursed my beer. But there was not much point because we couldn't really have a conversation as she didn't seem to understand English.
We went to one of the downstairs rooms. And as we walked past the band stage and the pool tables I realized what a large place this is. In fact, I am glad that I didn't realize it earlier because it seemed over-whelming! Anyway, went down to the room. Nice, clean, shower facility, mirror on one entire wall. We showered together and then I asked her to massage me for a little while. She didn't understand so I massaged her instead. It was a great idea because we really clicked with that. After that she massaged me really nicely and we were just petting till the point that we got a call to the room. Which was probably to tell her to hurry up or to check on her. I motioned her to start sucking and she gave me a BBBJ for a bit and then CBJ for a quick 5 seconds. The deed was good. She was tight in spite of the lube and that made it good for me (sometimes the lube is so much that I just don't get any feeling); I am a little bigger than average and she kept saying 'big, big' which was good for the ego as well. The girl did not try and rush at all, contrary to the reports that I had read. Did a couple of positions and then came while pounding her from the back while she was sprawled on the bed on her front. Really sexy to watch in the mirrors!
Used up almost 45 minutes and so went back upstairs; paid my bill and then left back for the hotel, well satisfied for the night.
One sour note: the cashier first showed up an amount of 765,000 on the electronic machine to which I didn't react; then she showed a new amount of 76,000 and asked for 100 k to which I asked for the bill. Then she showed 48 k as a new amount. Which made sense to me (40 k entry + 8 k for one beer) . It looked like she was trying to get away with a larger amount if I was not paying attention / was drunk.
Offshore Swell
02-27-18, 13:47
Nightlife in Jakarta is a whole lot of fun because you may choose to enhance your experience if you choose and Jakarta is already fun on steroids compared to any other place OS has ever been before any enhancement.
What concerns me is that the decision making by these "pejabat tinggi", never follows what we would consider normal logic. Firstly, a lot of people in high positions in Indonesia are essentially uneducated. Sure they might have a degree from some local university but that doesn't count for much. A lot of them have never travelled which is courtesy of a lot of our western countries being so mean spirited in denying young Indonesians that visa to travel and soak up alternative ways to look at things and so they are quite limited in their idea of how to change things, and thirdly if you want to rise. You need to dedicate yourself to cultivating patronage. "Asal bapak senang", "as long as the boss is happy" pretty much sums up problem solving for these guys and so there are limited pathways for innovative solutions to any problem to make their way up through all these people clinging onto whatever power they hold at their shitbox desk in some mould stained office with a busted air conditioner.
The thing is that they all crave power. Look at any news interview and the (probably uneducated) boss is blah blah blah to the camera and all these wannabes will be crowded into the frame behind him trying to associate themselves with power. If your family wants to scrape together the money, for $12,000 US, you can become a policeman, Then if you work harder at cultivating patronage than you do solving crime and looking after law and order, you too can work your way up the chain, no education needed. But if you are female you still need to pass the virginity exam where they open you up with a speculum to make sure you have the morality necessary to enforce law and order (go figure that one out).
So it should be as no surprise that they have a rather unsophisticated approach to drug enforcement. I think complacency is your worst enemy if that is what you like to do and their approach if you get caught is very punitive. It's the fog of a corrupt culture that is hard to see through and that makes the announcements like this one hard to second guess but OS never considered Happy Puppy a den of sin and theres a couple of other nightclubs that are conspicuous by their absence on that list which just leaves me just a little confused.
That said, I am sympathetic to the govt in dealing with the amount of shabu that seems to be coming into Indonesia but am not sure how cracking down on bars and nightclubs like on the list will solve that problem.
Perhaps if they wanted to really make Indonesia a better place they could go to war on litter, how awesome would that be.
"One sour note: the cashier first showed up an amount of 765,000 on the electronic machine to which I didn't react; then she showed a new amount of 76,000 and asked for 100 k to which I asked for the bill. Then she showed 48 k as a new amount. Which made sense to me (40 k entry + 8 k for one beer) . It looked like she was trying to get away with a larger amount if I was not paying attention / was drunk".
Actually it was 48 k for the beer (which is pretty good) as the entrance fee is waived if you get a girl. But on my last trip late last year I did notice that Classic tried to up the bill a few times if you didn't pay attention.
ThingStick
02-28-18, 04:46
Anyone doing drugs in Jakarta is just asking for trouble. If that's your thing and you want to take the risk, by all means, it's always yours to take, but these S. E. A. Are drugs enough for me. Walking around is being barraged by an insane amount of auditory + visual scramble. Not sure why anyone would risk serious bad news.
I love this forum. Joining it was the best thing I've ever done. Soon, I'll be getting out of the frigid, cold, disgusting and. E. China, and heading south!
I'll be in and out of Jakarta / KL starting in June, and can hand-hold newbies or be a wing-man / chiong buddy for a small fee + one service paid. I consider this a whole night deal, no hourly stuff, and I will not waste your time. I love both scenes, deeply. I think they best Thailand if you do it right.
I'm also beginning a private lifestyle documentary biz, seeking clients to follow and professionally photograph their fun. This can just be casual shots (Hey, Ma / Wifey! Or more serious. Whatever is needed.
English only, sadly, but that's the rub.
If anyone's interested, feel free to message me, and we can chat. I am dead serious about getting this going. I'm a low-key, moderate drinker (nothing too sloppy) who thinks of himself as funny, isn't a jerk, very patient, and is just looking to have some serious fun.
Best,
TS.
Dear all,
I have just recently shifted to Jakarta. I had my first experience at Grand Kimochi Cempaka. However it was a rushed decision and I couldn't spend much time deciding which babe to go for.
Is there an online blog / portal where the names and photos are listed for selection? And what is the usual "Tip" for a full-service menu? I paid around 400,000 to the girl inside the room. Was it ok, less or more? This was over and above the IDR 250,000 I paid for the room at the reception.
Please do let me know bretheren.
Thanks,
LB.
Anyone doing drugs in Jakarta is just asking for trouble. If that's your thing and you want to take the risk, by all means, it's always yours to take, but these S. E. A. Are drugs enough for me. Walking around is being barraged by an insane amount of auditory + visual scramble. Not sure why anyone would risk serious bad news.
I love this forum. Joining it was the best thing I've ever done. Soon, I'll be getting out of the frigid, cold, disgusting and. E. China, and heading south!
I'll be in and out of Jakarta / KL starting in June, and can hand-hold newbies or be a wing-man / chiong buddy for a small fee + one service paid. I consider this a whole night deal, no hourly stuff, and I will not waste your time. I love both scenes, deeply. I think they best Thailand if you do it right.
I'm also beginning a private lifestyle documentary biz, seeking clients to follow and professionally photograph their fun. This can just be casual shots (Hey, Ma / Wifey! Or more serious. Whatever is needed.
English only, sadly, but that's the rub.
If anyone's interested, feel free to message me, and we can chat. I am dead serious about getting this going. I'm a low-key, moderate drinker (nothing too sloppy) who thinks of himself as funny, isn't a jerk, very patient, and is just looking to have some serious fun.
Best,
TS.Interesting. One of the two mongering behaviors that is as risky as playing with hard drugs is profiting from sex. (the other is the idiocy of messing with with [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girls). Examples of "tour guides" who have found themselves in jail can be found throughout Asia, Latina America, Africa, ect. So, while you are warning others about drugs, I am warning them to be very careful of such offers, and YOU, if you really have not thought it through. Jakarta is not the place to fuck with this.
Banana Boi
02-28-18, 20:54
One sour note: the cashier first showed up an amount of 765,000 on the electronic machine to which I didn't react; then she showed a new amount of 76,000 and asked for 100 k to which I asked for the bill. Then she showed 48 k as a new amount. Which made sense to me (40 k entry + 8 k for one beer) . It looked like she was trying to get away with a larger amount if I was not paying attention / was drunk.I must have been getting hosed because I certainly paid much more than 8 k rupiah for a beer at classic. I was never told of any entry fees on my 4 visits last week. Maybe Smoothy can clarify the pricing at classic.
Dear all,
I have just recently shifted to Jakarta. I had my first experience at Grand Kimochi Cempaka. However it was a rushed decision and I couldn't spend much time deciding which babe to go for.
Is there an online blog / portal where the names and photos are listed for selection? And what is the usual "Tip" for a full-service menu? I paid around 400,000 to the girl inside the room. Was it ok, less or more? This was over and above the IDR 250,000 I paid for the room at the reception.
Please do let me know bretheren.
Thanks,
LB.http://therapistfashionspa.********.com.au/2017/07/nomor-2-anggi-foto-therapist-fashion-spa.html
Found this in my searching. Not exactly what you want but may be of interest. Others may also be interested.
Also try this: https://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/000000000000000013812927/fashion-hotel-amp-spa/481.
I must have been getting hosed because I certainly paid much more than 8 k rupiah for a beer at classic. I was never told of any entry fees on my 4 visits last week. Maybe Smoothy can clarify the pricing at classic.Hi BB. You didn't get hosed. There is nowhere in Jakarta where you can get a beer for 8 k IDR, which is US $0. 80 or Aus $0. 75 or so. 75 cent beers are a memory from my long-ago youth or some special. I also don't know about an entry fee -- but it's been donkey's years since I visited -- and I suspect the 40 K IDR may be a minimum charge. Too much confusion about payments in the report. TTG.
"One sour note: the cashier first showed up an amount of 765,000 on the electronic machine to which I didn't react; then she showed a new amount of 76,000 and asked for 100 k to which I asked for the bill. Then she showed 48 k as a new amount. Which made sense to me (40 k entry + 8 k for one beer) . It looked like she was trying to get away with a larger amount if I was not paying attention / was drunk".
Actually it was 48k for the beer (which is pretty good) as the entrance fee is waived if you get a girl. But on my last trip late last year I did notice that Classic tried to up the bill a few times if you didn't pay attention.True, true. It's if you don't buy anything at all, they charge you the 40k. It was likely 48k for the beer. I'm not sure how it ended up being 76k total though unless the beer was a Corona, but they waive that entry fee once you take a girl. Would have to see a photocopy of the receipt. And for 76k, it's not worth the time taking the photo and posting it anyway. LOL.
If you don't want to have to spend a dime, you can go to Bunker on the ground floor. I believe they have a 50k entry fee, but if you are white, they don't charge you anything if you don't spend anything. They tell you about the 50k entry fee, but when they see you have spent nothing when you check out, they don't charge you. It seems that entry fee is just for locals (my local friends always have to pay that 50k even if we walk in together and walk out together). I'm not guaranteeing that Indians or non local Asians can go there without paying, but I do know white guys can. I've always found it odd that they don't force that cover on everyone since Bunker was the place with the better nude dancers and they were continuously dancing nude while the 2nd floor only had dancers intermittently. Now, of course, there are no nude dancers anywhere. Then again, I think I have only been in there 3 or 4 times where I was charged nothing, and one of those times I gave the cashier a 50k tip anyway because she was smoking hot and I already had the 50k out. Every other time I spent well over that. However, the first two times I spent nothing, so I know it had nothing to do with my spending money in the past.
I remember when My Bar in Blok M first opened, it was packed with cheapskate locals (guys) who would just sit in there all night spending nothing. You couldn't even move in the place and it was uncomfortable. I stopped going in there due to that. Then My Bar started charging a cover for only the local guys. It was a huge improvement in the ambience of the place. Personally, I'd like to see places like Hotel Classic (and every other place in town that has hookers and dancers) charge at least a 100k entry fee (that is waived when you spend at least that much). If they did that, I'd start going to those places more often. As it is now, I prefer going to those places in the afternoon only, before they are packed with loitering locals.
I sometimes feel guilty because the entrance fee is not minor to many locals. Then again, it is like the clubs in NYC during the days when clubs can choose and pick who goes in and who has to pay. It was not insignificant to me but my friend (s) usually picked up the tab. I get spoiled in Asia because one can usually talk ones way out of paying because an expat is a desired client and probably willing or can to spend. Saw one fat expat whale last week getting xaped by girls asking and getting LDs. I was going to walk over and tell the whale to slow down but I was closer to and knew the BGs. LOL
I remember when My Bar in Blok M first opened, it was packed with cheapskate locals (guys) who would just sit in there all night spending nothing. You couldn't even move in the place and it was uncomfortable. I stopped going in there due to that. Then My Bar started charging a cover for only the local guys. It was a huge improvement in the ambience of the place. Personally, I'd like to see places like Hotel Classic (and every other place in town that has hookers and dancers) charge at least a 100k entry fee (that is waived when you spend at least that much). If they did that, I'd start going to those places more often. As it is now, I prefer going to those places in the afternoon only, before they are packed with loitering locals..
ManonsanBoy
03-02-18, 03:38
Hotel recommendation near action?
Firstly, a lot of people in high positions in Indonesia are essentially uneducated. Sure they might have a degree from some local university but that doesn't count for much. A lot of them have never travelled which is courtesy of a lot of our western countries being so mean spirited in denying young Indonesians that visa to travel and soak up alternative ways to look at things and so they are quite limited in their idea of how to change things, and thirdly if you want to rise.Alas if only what you describe were so we would have little to worry about, but it isn't. The type of person you describe certainly exists but not at national decison-making level. The guys you describe run some mid level provincial office and their decisions rarely if ever effect most of us here, the power they wield is minimal to the likes of us.
That, however, is not the case at national level where the ever-more conservative turns in state policy are being made. Even at Jakarta level the caricature you describe is simply not the case. Anies Baswedan is extremely well traveled and educated in the US and Japan, his deputy is equally well-traveled and educated, also in the west, he is a hugely successful businessman.
The House of Representatives is filled with men just like them, there are probably more multi-millionaires in the House than in most western parliaments, by a long chalk. These men travel overseas all the time and they don't travel on budget airlines or stay in AirBnB. The same applies to the chiefs of the Army, Police and Drugs squad. Tito Kurniawan of the national Police has a Phd from the University of Singapore, for example, these men own watches worth more than our houses.
These are the men cracking down on our hobby, not some kampung subdistrict chief. They don't worry because unlike us schlubs you won't find them haggling with a mamasan in Classic, they fly their women in from Europe and put them up in the five-star apartment blocks they own, they don't worry about a booze ban because they don't buy their Bintang in Carrefour, they own vineyards in the South of France.
These are serious men, if they have decided that the future of Indonesia will be a lot more proscribed in terms of freedom (our freedom, not theirs obviously), then I fear that is how it will be.
Did you RTFF? Here is a good one from Smoothy recently.
Hotel recommendation near action?.
Better place to be to go where? It depends where you want to go. I thought you said you wanted to go to Malioboro and CJs. Alexis is so far north that it's basically in Ancol. The further towards Ancol you get, the further you are away from anything else in Jakarta other than Ancol. (Alexis is closed.) If you intend on spending your time at Golden Crown, Orchardz spa, Club 36, Penjay, Hotel Travel, or Lokasari, then it might make sense sacrificing quality of hotel and staying further north. But Malioboro, Hotel Classic, Emporivm, and places like CJs and BATS are further down and you can get a nicer hotel.
If you want to go to Malioboro, you can stay in a very nice hotel at Harris Vertu right across the street from Malioboro and can walk there. If you want to go from there to Hotel Classic, you just turn left on Jalan Juanda and then left again and you are there in a few minutes. If you want to go to CJs, that is way on the other side of town regardless of where you stay in North Jakarta. There is a bus station right in front of that Harris hotel and you can take the bus to Kota station in about 5 minutes if you so desire. Keep in mind that if you want to stay near Mangga Dua mall (in between Alexis and Golden Crown and the true definition of the "Kota" area), all of the hotels in that area are shitty relative to a hotel like Harris Vertu. It's not as if Malioboro and Golden Crown are far apart. They are not.
Offshore Swell
03-02-18, 11:33
Alas if only what you describe were so we would have little to worry about, but it isn't. The type of person you describe certainly exists but not at national decison-making level. The guys you describe run some mid level provincial office and their decisions rarely if ever effect most of us here, the power they wield is minimal to the likes of us.
That, however, is not the case at national level where the ever-more conservative turns in state policy are being made. Even at Jakarta level the caricature you describe is simply not the case. Anies Baswedan is extremely well traveled and educated in the US and Japan, his deputy is equally well-traveled and educated, also in the west, he is a hugely successful businessman.
The House of Representatives is filled with men just like them, there are probably more multi-millionaires in the House than in most western parliaments, by a long chalk. These men travel overseas all the time and they don't travel on budget airlines or stay in AirBnB. The same applies to the chiefs of the Army, Police and Drugs squad. Tito Kurniawan of the national Police has a Phd from the University of Singapore, for example, these men own watches worth more than our houses.
These are the men cracking down on our hobby, not some kampung subdistrict chief. They don't worry because unlike us schlubs you won't find them haggling with a mamasan in Classic, they fly their women in from Europe and put them up in the five-star apartment blocks they own, they don't worry about a booze ban because they don't buy their Bintang in Carrefour, they own vineyards in the South of France.
These are serious men, if they have decided that the future of Indonesia will be a lot more proscribed in terms of freedom (our freedom, not theirs obviously), then I fear that is how it will be.Thanks for that HL77 I guess I have a western centric view of the world, I may be naive here but do these men not have any vision for their country?. Does Tito not see corruption as a disease dragging his country backwards? And Anies can play to the hardline vote but the muslim world is not exactly flush with success stories from going down that pathway.
I guess atthe start this was about cracking down on drugs which has quite universal appeal. Will watch with interest.
Regards.
ManonsanBoy
03-03-18, 00:10
Did you RTFF? Here is a good one from Smoothy recently.
.Thanks. I have booked Harris Vertu for May. Hope there is still a scene there then with all the talk about crackdown.
ManonsanBoy
03-03-18, 00:12
Beware though of Smoothy's recommendations. Less than four months ago he wrote in a post here "I totally agree with most of your report. Especially the crap shag at Hotel Classic. That's "standard" crap service at that place. Although it's cheap and the girls are young and hot. It's extremely rare to get good sex there. " His most recent post stating "Buy let's get real, there is no better value for money in the entire world than Hotel Classic when you compare" should be read in tandem with his earlier posts (there are many actually) complaining about how bad the service is there.
There are a lot of great places in Jakarta, and it is IMHO overall a better scene than Bangkok although it is difficult to know whether that will continue for long given the real possibility of politically-motivated crackdowns, some of which have already occurred. But as a Jakarta regular, I don't even bother with Classic (or Travel, its competitor for terrible service) anymore.Where do you go now?
LAGuy5 obviously still has his panties in a wad since I disagreed with him when he said everyone should carry their passport around with them at all times. (which I still think is a dumb move)
I have always said the service at Hotel Classic and Hotel Travel sucks. Where did I say it was good? It's a rare occasion I go there and take a girl there anymore since it's not worth my time to get star fish service. I value my time more than the dirt cheap price. Most of my Western friends also do not like the service there. However, if you are Asian, you will almost certainly like it. All of my Asian friends think it's great. They care more about the hot young girls and cheap price and disregard the bad service. And the majority of posters here now seem to be Asian rather than Westerners.
Malioboro has better service, but is more expensive. If you want really good service, free lancers around town in places like BATS or CJs or even Tinder are better options.
There are so many places in town and each one varies on the quality of girls at any given time. But the key to the service is how the mamasans handle the girls. The fact that I always get good service at King Cross and always get bad service at Hotel Classic is a direct reflection on the mamasans who train and control those girls. The mamasans at Hotel Classic and Travel are the worst in the city in my opinion. They simply don't care about whether or not the girls provide good service. However, they sure do know their business when it comes to finding young and attractive girls to pimp out.
I like to rotate places, going to different ones rather than sticking to any particular one. I still do go to Hotel Classic and Travel on occasion, but not often. I plan to hit Medika tonight with some local friends.
Irish Mongrel
03-03-18, 03:32
LAGuy5 obviously still has his panties in a wad since I disagreed with him when he said everyone should carry their passport around with them at all times. (which I still think is a dumb move)Got to agree with you there. I travel a lot would never carry my original passport around with me when I am out and about. Way too much hassle if I were to lose it. Never leave it with a hotel front desk either, if they need it, they can photocopy it. The only place for your passport when you travel is under lock and key in your room safe.
Got to agree with you there. I travel a lot would never carry my original passport around with me when I am out and about. Way too much hassle if I were to lose it. Never leave it with a hotel front desk either, if they need it, they can photocopy it. The only place for your passport when you travel is under lock and key in your room safe.Have a guy said to me he carries all his money with him at all times too. He says so he knows where it is. I bet one day he won't know where it all is, but someone else will.
I have a saying "can't help dumb people".
.......However, if you are Asian, you will almost certainly like it. All of my Asian friends think it's great. They care more about the hot young girls and cheap price and disregard the bad service. And the majority of posters here now seem to be Asian rather than Westerners.......I am under the impression that Asian men are much more easily satisfied sexually than Western men. Providers who are accustomed to sessioning Asian men will expect you to pump in one position, come and go in short order and that just won't do for me.
My 2 cents and experience. In the past, I have photo ID and copy of passport if just about town. Nowadays, the copy is digital. Less of a problem depending on your race and where you are travelling. If you are likely to get stopped, I would suggest carrying the original. In countries with national ID cards and whereby you are likely to get stopped, I would suggest carrying your passport. By law, some places require you to carry a national ID card. And if you are likely to get stopped and in an unfriendly country, it is not worth the risks.
My 2 cents and experience. In the past, I have photo ID and copy of passport if just about town. Nowadays, the copy is digital. Less of a problem depending on your race and where you are travelling. If you are likely to get stopped, I would suggest carrying the original. In countries with national ID cards and whereby you are likely to get stopped, I would suggest carrying your passport. By law, some places require you to carry a national ID card. And if you are likely to get stopped and in an unfriendly country, it is not worth the risks.I have copied the photo page of my passport and laminated it. I carry that with me at all times.
I am under the impression that Asian men are much more easily satisfied sexually than Western men. Providers who are accustomed to sessioning Asian men will expect you to pump in one position, come and go in short order and that just won't do for me.General to a great degree especially for the last few trips the service I've had at both has gotten better and better. At Maliboro I generally get girls from the spa or at the cheaper price small bar with a live band across the stairways. I must say girl service at Maliboro overall from my experience is a cut below. Now when I go to Classic Terminal / Hotel Travel I use my trusty Google Translate to let them know what I expect and I won't take them if their not agreeable. I generally will be frisky / groping them a bit to get a handle on their accomodative nature plus whether or not the clothing is hiding something I might not like. This seems to work for me and they don't seem to mind. I find Classic Terminal / Hotel Travel girls pretty honest so they won't agreed to something they won't do (unlike the prior KTV girls from Chong Ping who will say anything). Of course every once in awhile I'm seduced by a huge rack leading me to take a leap of faith. Lastly, I don't need or care for deep french kissing but I understand others might.
IndoSniper
03-03-18, 22:56
I go Indonesia very frequent on business. I bet those people criticizing about carrying passport are oblivious to of Indonesian law that requires foreigners to carry a valid ID document in Indonesia, like a KITAS or Passport. A photocopy or digital picture is useless, and if ever caught in a Police check or road check with that, you will be arrested. Nowadays not as easy to bribe cops as before, much more expensive because of politic pressure. So please, go ahead and risk it your own choice, but you will be the one regret if the day comes.
If you don't believe me, see the below video at 3:00 where foreigner arrested in cafe because no passport, despite a photo of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq4ENrO2gkg&t=253s
I must say girl service at Maliboro overall from my experience is a cut below. Now when I go to Classic Terminal / Hotel Travel I use my trusty Google Translate to let them know what I expect and I won't take them if their not agreeable. I generally will be frisky / groping them a bit to get a handle on their accomodative nature plus whether or not the clothing is hiding something I might not like. This seems to work for me and they don't seem to mind. I find Classic Terminal / Hotel Travel girls pretty honest so they won't agreed to something they won't do.If that works for you, why can't you do that same thing at Malioboro?
I think the service at Malioboro is not bad. It's not great, but it's not bad. I've been with over 100 girls at Malioboro. I can only remember two girls at Malioboro who I thought were as bad as the average Hotel Classic/Hotel Travel type of girl in bed. The rest were at least decent. There was one girl at Maliboro with big tits who gave me an awesome rim job. I repeated a few times with her. A few years later, she was working at Hotel Classic. She had gotten a little fat by then but still looked pretty good. Since I had never had a girl at Classic give me a decent rim job ever, I took her for old times sake. The strange thing was that in the room at Classic, she wasn't rimming me. At Malioboro she had gotten right down to business. I told her that her rimming talent was the main reason I took her and that I wanted that. She told me that they weren't supposed to do that at Classic, but she would since she knew me from before. I'm guessing either the girl just got lazy or the mamasans are actually telling the girls not to do certain things at Classic.
Pedros Needs
03-04-18, 01:53
Guys,
No response or assistance to my post, maybe as I am a first time poster it being my 1st trip here, but I have been a long time contributor to Australia and Bali as you will see.
Love some tips or details on any privates around Tangerang as there a few days, made contact with a few around Jakarta also as there a few days, but them coming to fruition will be the test as many want- yeah yeah but not so efficient when it comes to crunch time I find. Love a non full on WL ideally.
Your guidance appreciated.
Pedro.
Have a function in Tangerang that will require me to book a hotel close by.
Any advice on a good hotel, central to action or meeting ladies, not in to the lat night scene.
Might it be near a Mall or Shopping center where one may snag a gem and non WL?
Cheers.
Pedro.
I go Indonesia very frequent on business. I bet those people criticizing about carrying passport are oblivious to of Indonesian law that requires foreigners to carry a valid ID document in Indonesia, like a KITAS or Passport. A photocopy or digital picture is useless, and if ever caught in a Police check or road check with that, you will be arrested. Thanks for the advice. I believe that link has been posted here before. Crazy stuff. About 2 years ago, you posted for the first time asking for advice on Indonesia since it was your first visit. I'm curious, how many times have the police asked you for your passport in road blocks or raids in those very frequent visits of the last two years?
I'm not saying something crazy like that video is impossible, but in my opinion, it boils down to whether you think it's more of a risk losing your passport and having the trouble of having to get it replaced (it happened to me once, and it was not something I want to repeat) or the remote possibility of the police hauling you into jail for simply not carrying your passport everywhere you go. My bet would be that less than .001% of all Westerners visiting Jakarta have been hauled into jail for not carrying their passport. However, if everyone carried their passport at all times, I would bet the percentage of people losing their passport would be higher than that. It's also a pain in the ass having to carry that around all the time.
In the last 20 years, I've been asked by the police to see my passport in road blocks about 10 times. I've been caught in 2 raids of brothels as well. I've never been arrested. Most times I pay nothing, sometimes 100 k. One time I actually had my passport by mere coincidence since I had just arrived that day and they still wanted money. Rather than sit there for hours, I gave the guy 100 k. Is there a tiny chance that I would be caught up in "raid" like the one in that video you posted (which was targeting foreigners in an area where a bunch of Nigerians had overstayed their visas for years) and actually hauled to jail? I would say the chances are extremely low. Hanging out in any area where there are a bunch of Nigerians is never a good idea, it's why I avoid Jalan Jaksa altogether. If you are at Jalan Jaksa, you absolutely need to have your passport on you. But that's an exception. There is also a chance you could get blown up by a bomb in Jakarta since there have been bombs. But it's your call whether you should fear those bombs and not visit Jakarta or take a chance and visit.
On another note, did you ever find any good places to go in Tangerang? After you asked about information on places in Tangerang a couple of years ago, you never shared anything about your experiences.
I just carry a digital copy, a photo ID, cash and phone in Indonesia. Also business card. It is a country friendly to western businessmen. And I have been checked by LEO more than once. From what I heard, LEO would take you to your safe in some jurisdictions if required.
Hanging out in any area where there are a bunch of Nigerians is never a good idea, it's why I avoid Jalan Jaksa altogether. If you are at Jalan Jaksa, you absolutely need to have your passport on you. But that's an exception. There is also a chance you could get blown up by a bomb in Jakarta since there have been bombs. But it's your call whether you should fear those bombs and not visit Jakarta or take a chance and visit.As a US person, my photo ID now is my passport card as the US driver's license has lost a lot of its clout since many States are issuing them with lesser scrutiny about being legally in the US. I still remember travelling to Canada and some of the Caribbean Islands on just a US driver's license.
I have copied the photo page of my passport and laminated it. I carry that with me at all times.
I should clarify, I am not encouraging not following the local rules or laws. IMHO, it is only for the passport that the risk of losing it out weighs the trouble of not having it on you in Indonesia. Likewise, I had mine stolen. Unlike Smoothy, I don't drive in Indonesia. Not worth the hassle if I get into an accident. Different risks reward analysis.
I'm not saying something crazy like that video is impossible, but in my opinion, it boils down to whether you think it's more of a risk losing your passport and having the trouble of having to get it replaced (it happened to me once, and it was not something I want to repeat) or the remote possibility of the police hauling you into jail for simply not carrying your passport everywhere you go. My bet would be that less than .001% of all Westerners visiting Jakarta have been hauled into jail for not carrying their passport. However, if everyone carried their passport at all times, I would bet the percentage of people losing their passport would be higher than that. It's also a pain in the ass having to carry that around all the time.
SteelBaton
03-05-18, 04:02
I never carry my passport in Jakarta or any other place other than when I have to pass immigration-the hassle of loss is too high.
For safety I carry a credit card sized copy of front and main ID page, printed on high quality photo paper, and laminated in plastic.
When I travel, I always have that card in my wallet. Shockingly several times I have used it to check into a hotel and even to change money when traveling in a variety of places. I'm actually surprised that it has worked but I continue to carry it. If for no other reason than if I'm found unconscious from a traffic accident, or that 12th shot of Hibiki, at least someone will know which embassy to notify. Surely, not a guarantee for all situations, but a cheap thing that has proven helpful.
Additionally, I keep a pdf of my passport (password protected) on my phone as further back-up.
I should clarify, I am not encouraging not following the local rules or laws. IMHO, it is only for the passport that the risk of losing it out weighs the trouble of not having it on you in Indonesia. Likewise, I had mine stolen. Unlike Smoothy, I don't drive in Indonesia. Not worth the hassle if I get into an accident. Different risks reward analysis.
I may be naive here but do these men not have any vision for their country?. The vision they have of their country is of them running it and making ever more money in the process.
In a democracy, such as it is, in a country like Indonesia that means persuading voters to vote for you. And right now, as with everywhere around the world, conservatism wins votes, only aging liberals like us in our middle-class urban redoubts are still holding out for individual freedoms.
It's all a function of rising prosperity, the middle classes in Indonesia are newly-minted and you don't get more conservative people than a housewife on her first step up the social ladder. She is living in a nice little "cluster" home in some suburb in Depok or Bekasi, she has a Honda Accord parked in the carport, her husband has a decent job in a bank or the government, she has started wearing the jilbab and her kids are at private school.
Now years ago, women like her wouldn't have given a fiddler's fart about drugs, booze and "pornografi" or "free sex", they simply didn't impinge on her life. Decades ago the only people drinking alcohol were bules, Chinese, Christians and deadbeat "preman", no one she need worry about. But then she realized her little darlings were now hanging out in Seven-11 and drinking beer in the evening, that was soon knocked on the head. Drug use was the same, no one she knew took anything stronger than cigarettes and coffee, now shabu-shabu is being handed around at school functions, time for a drug panic.
Same with pornography, no one ever saw any, now their kids are accessing it on their phones, bang! Internet censorship. Equally in the past their husbands wouldn't dare play around as everyone in the kampung would know about it, now Tinder is on his phone and he seems to be spending a lot of evenings with colleagues in business meetings in North Jakarta, time to shut down the red-light districts.
Whipping up a moral panic is the quickest way to get votes and as you won't be affected (particularly as you have just outlawed criticism of the House of Representatives, so no one will dare report on your shenanigans) passing ever more restrictive laws is a cost-free vote winner.
We are living in our cocoon in Jakarta so we don't realise how quickly the rest of the country is changing, but go out to Central and West Java and look at the girls and women dressed from top to toe in very conservative Islamic dress in a way that was simply unimaginable 20 years ago but which is now taken for granted. Try to buy a beer in these places where once it was freely available in corner shops and supermarkets.
I think Jakarta, like Bali, will hold out to a large degree, Batak areas in Sumatra also (although Christian "ibu-ibu" are every bit as conservative as their Muslim sisters), there is simply too much money and vested interests involved, but the scene here will become ever more cramped and the free-wheeling days of old are gone and they ain't coming back.
Eszpresszo
03-05-18, 13:35
I never carry my passport in Jakarta or any other place other than when I have to pass immigration-the hassle of loss is too high.
Additionally, I keep a pdf of my passport (password protected) on my phone as further back-up.Excellent idea, that I hadn't thought of. Personally I carry my US Passport Card with my cash and credit cards in a money clip. The passport card isn't a substitute for regular passport except for a handful of nations. But, it is an official US govt. Form of ID. But, I will still do a PDF and keep it on my mobile devices.
LAGuy5 obviously still has his panties in a wad since I disagreed with him when he said everyone should carry their passport around with them at all times. (which I still think is a dumb move)
You won't stop will you? What an asshole.
KilledSoul
03-05-18, 22:31
I have always said the service at Hotel Classic and Hotel Travel sucks. Where did I say it was good? **snip**
Malioboro has better service, but is more expensive. If you want really good service, free lancers around town in places like BATS or CJs or even Tinder are better options.
General to a great degree especially for the last few trips the service I've had at both has gotten better and better. At Maliboro I generally get girls from the spa or at the cheaper price small bar with a live band across the stairways. I must say girl service at Maliboro overall from my experience is a cut below. Now when I go to Classic Terminal / Hotel Travel I use my trusty Google Translate to let them know what I expect and I won't take them if their not agreeable. I generally will be frisky / groping them a bit to get a handle on their accomodative nature plus whether or not the clothing is hiding something I might not like. This seems to work for me and they don't seem to mind. I find Classic Terminal / Hotel Travel girls pretty honest so they won't agreed to something they won't do (unlike the prior KTV girls from Chong Ping who will say anything). Of course every once in awhile I'm seduced by a huge rack leading me to take a leap of faith. Lastly, I don't need or care for deep french kissing but I understand others might.I have agree with Smoothy here. I got one of the most mechanical and rushed service in my mongering career in Classic. And a really great service at Malioboro from the bar the with live band. For newbies I would recommend: "Always bet on Malio. " Classic would cost 330 k without tips and Maliboro bar would cost 620 k (420 k + 200 k tip). 290 k more expensive compared to Classic but worth the decent service I guess.
IndoSniper
03-05-18, 23:11
I have been stopped road check about 5-6 times in Jakarta. My first time I had a phone passport photo and Polis refuse and would bring me to station if no pay money. After I carry my passport or APEC business card and they never ask money or take me in. One time I was accompany two Qatari colleagues who not carry passport for business dinner and the Police bring them to station for a few hours before release. I am not sure if they paid money for release or no. My Office had always advise me to carry proper ID in Jakarta as safety especially around holidays and Ramadan, but people here can choose up to them, but if they get caught they will face some issues.
I do not use this website much because I am busy working in Jakarta or back home I don't care. But even before I can see the environment is toxic, this website not for friendly exchange information, it is a few bullys who control everything and judge everyone, and care more about being right than helping people. I just try add my simple advice and I don't know why you need to research my history or discredit people. It is very disfunctional and I have better thing to do than that. Cheers.
Banana Boi
03-06-18, 05:56
Classic would cost 330 k without tips and Maliboro bar would cost 620 k (420 k + 200 k tip). 290 k more expensive compared to Classic but worth the decent service I guess.Sorry for the total newbie question but I thought Malioboro girls were much more than "620 k (420 k + 200 k tip)". I definitely didn't get quoted that amount albeit my girl was from Malio Club. Will write more when I get some time to do a full FR. small correction, Classic is now 365k.
We are living in our cocoon in Jakarta so we don't realise how quickly the rest of the country is changing, but go out to Central and West Java and look at the girls and women dressed from top to toe in very conservative Islamic dress in a way that was simply unimaginable 20 years ago but which is now taken for granted. Try to buy a beer in these places where once it was freely available in corner shops and supermarkets.Completely agree. I was living in Indonesia up until about 1 year ago, working on a project about 3 hours from Bandung. Every woman in the village wore conservative clothes. We very rarely saw anyone in anything but a Hijib. Even in Bandung you can't buy alcohol at supermarkets or 7-eleven's, you have to go to beer outlets like the ones around Jalan Braga. We didn't even take alcohol back to our camp as we thought the locals may get upset when they saw the empty bottles and cans. Different world to Jakarta.
Sorry for the total newbie question but I thought Malioboro girls were much more than "620 k (420 k + 200 k tip)". I definitely didn't get quoted that amount albeit my girl was from Malio Club. Will write more when I get some time to do a full FR. small correction, Classic is now 365k.If you go up to the 2nd floor (the floor with the big room where the girls sit). Enter that big room, then Exit that room using the far right doors. Walk straight across to the little room where there is live music. (the room to the right of the elevators) The girls in that room are 425 k. And I think they are just as good as the girls in the big room.
Banana Boi
03-06-18, 14:09
Is that the room named M Club or M Bar or something like that? That's the room where I saw the girls I preferred in Malio Hotel. Problem was my buddy doesn't prefer the younger petite ones and didn't want to stay in the tiny bar.
Thanks Smoothy. That's where I head back to first next time in Malio Hotel.
If you go up to the 2nd floor (the floor with the big room where the girls sit). Enter that big room, then Exit that room using the far right doors. Walk straight across to the little room where there is live music. (the room to the right of the elevators) The girls in that room are 425 k. And I think they are just as good as the girls in the big room.As they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I found the girls in the big room more attractive for my taste than the ones in the little room. The ones in the big room were taller for one. However, if my memory serves me right I got better service from the girls in the little room.
As they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I found the girls in the big room more attractive for my taste than the ones in the little room. The ones in the big room were taller for one. However, if my memory serves me right I got better service from the girls in the little room.They are taller and whiter in the big room. They throw the darker skinned shorter ones in the small room. (for the most part) But there are some gems in that small room. The problem is that the gems are normally busy as hell, so getting a session with the top girls in the small room is hit or miss. Many times they have bookings with 3 guys already waiting in line for them. I also have found that the girls in the small room give better service. The girls in the big room can be prima donnas (especially if the locals are going crazy over them since they are tall with white skin).
What is the best time to get there, Smoothy? I don't care about skin color, only tit size, small frame.
The problem is that the gems are normally busy as hell, The girls in the big room can be prima donnas (especially if the locals are going crazy over them since they are tall with white skin).
Completely agree. I was living in Indonesia up until about 1 year ago, working on a project about 3 hours from Bandung. Every woman in the village wore conservative clothes. We very rarely saw anyone in anything but a Hijib. Even in Bandung you can't buy alcohol at supermarkets or 7-eleven's, you have to go to beer outlets like the ones around Jalan Braga. We didn't even take alcohol back to our camp as we thought the locals may get upset when they saw the empty bottles and cans. Different world to Jakarta.I can't comment specifically on Bandung, but I can say one thing for sure about West Java girls. It doesn't matter what they are told to wear on their heads or how to behave in those kampoengs. Once they have worked out how to unzip a man's flies they jump on a bus to Jakarta or another big city.
ManonsanBoy
03-06-18, 17:15
I think Auustralia is the only country since last year that has to have a visa. There is no love lost between the two countries and maybe because the Australians are loud also! Haha.30 day free on arrival.
KilledSoul
03-06-18, 21:40
Sorry for the total newbie question but I thought Malioboro girls were much more than "620 k (420 k + 200 k tip)". I definitely didn't get quoted that amount albeit my girl was from Malio Club. Will write more when I get some time to do a full FR. small correction, Classic is now 365k.I guess in Malio club you would have been quoted above 3 million IDR for the dancers and 1.2 million for the regular girls. 620 k is for the girls from Malio bar. Quoting Dirk67 for the directions on how to reach Malio bar.
From the main entrance (by the driveway, south side) if you press 2 on the elevator, you end up at Malio bar and lounge. The elevators open and there's the charge counter. The left side is the live music area that is smaller and has tables of girls sitting around and you can order food and drink. I only noticed a few other customers there and about 15 girls looking bored.
I think Auustralia is the only country since last year that has to have a visa. There is no love lost between the two countries and maybe because the Australians are loud also! Haha.As an Aussie (and I speak here only for myself but am sure many will agree) in 2002 88 Australians were killed in a Bali nightclub. This will never be forgotten. Yes I know Terrorism can happen anywhere, even in Australia.
In the Indonesian press the bombers were called heroes. "On 25 October 2008, Communications and Information Minister asked the Indonesian media to stop calling the three "heroes". ".
There have been other loss of life too in 2005.
We, as Aussies, will be loud and stand up and be counted against this form of barbaric ideological bullshit that plagues our world.
ManonsanBoy
03-06-18, 23:06
If you go up to the 2nd floor (the floor with the big room where the girls sit). Enter that big room, then Exit that room using the far right doors. Walk straight across to the little room where there is live music. (the room to the right of the elevators) The girls in that room are 425 k. And I think they are just as good as the girls in the big room.Having RTFF, an booked into Harris Vertu as per recommendation, what is smoothy's top 5 as of 2018? Even better if it is not too far from Harris hotel. I have been to almost everywhere else in S E Asia but never Indonesia. I am on my way in May.
Ggekko2009
03-07-18, 01:09
Having RTFF, an booked into Harris Vertu as per recommendation, what is smoothy's top 5 as of 2018? Even better if it is not too far from Harris hotel. I have been to almost everywhere else in S E Asia but never Indonesia. I am on my way in May.Note that Ramadan starts on May 15 this year and last for a month. If you are traveling to Jakarta in May during that period, your selections will be very limited and night life will be duller than usual, and some may not even be opened.
ManonsanBoy
03-07-18, 20:53
Note that Ramadan starts on May 15 this year and last for a month. If you are traveling to Jakarta in May during that period, your selections will be very limited and night life will be duller than usual, and some may not even be opened.Oh s**t. Will change plans.
Oh s**t. Will change plans.Ends 14 June but allow for at least 3 days for the celebration of the Eid. 21 June would be my date because some of the girls would not have worked for anywhere between 1 to 5 weeks and rents will be due LOL.
Ends 14 June but allow for at least 3 days for the celebration of the Eid. 21 June would be my date because some of the girls would not have worked for anywhere between 1 to 5 weeks and rents will be due LOL.Another tactic is that shortly before Ramadan the girls will be desperate for cash to fund their trip back to the Kampung. It's a very expensive time for them because they know that when they return everyone will have their hand out for something from the well to do city girl. She will be very reluctant to refuse and dispel the myth.
SeaTraveler
03-08-18, 00:29
Another tactic is that shortly before Ramadan the girls will be desperate for cash to fund their trip back to the Kampung. It's a very expensive time for them because they know that when they return everyone will have their hand out for something from the well to do city girl. She will be very reluctant to refuse and dispel the myth.I used that to my advantage in 2014. I bought a plane ticket to Surabaya at the request of one of my favorites and in exchange, she spent the day and night with me. Next morning we took a cab to the airport because I had a flight at the same time to Bali. Her ticket was less than 1 million. Great deal for me.
Friends,
Need a quick help. I have been approached by this guy calling himself Alvin. He is asking for a full deposit in his account before I can book one of his babes. There are some sweet juicy Russians and Uzbek on Illegals Insta account. What is your suggestion bretheren? Can you please advise?
ManonsanBoy
03-08-18, 19:44
Ends 14 June but allow for at least 3 days for the celebration of the Eid. 21 June would be my date because some of the girls would not have worked for anywhere between 1 to 5 weeks and rents will be due LOL.29 to July 3. Thanks. I think I dodged an arrow about Ramadan.
Friends,
Need a quick help. I have been approached by this guy calling himself Alvin. He is asking for a full deposit in his account before I can book one of his babes. There are some sweet juicy Russians and Uzbek on Illegals Insta account. What is your suggestion bretheren? Can you please advise?Dude are you serious? Treat him like a Nigerian Prince.
Dude are you serious? Treat him like a Nigerian Prince.Thanks for your response Rob. Unfortunately, blood rushed downstairs rather than upstairs and I ended up paying him, before I could read your reply.
So far he has been true to his words, he told me he'll send pictures once the money comes in and he did. I am meeting the girl today at a designated point, which is in CBD, so not one of the Mangga Besar (where they rob you of your balls) areas.
I hope everything goes ok. Don't want to land into the hands of mafia and get castrated.
Though if the Instagram account is anything to go by, it has around 1,100 followers.
Shall keep everyone posted in the community how it turns out.
So despite the good advise from rob. I went ahead and got burnt. Modus operandi so others can be safe.
1. Alvin claiming to be from illegals would contact.
2. you deposit money.
3. he'll share photos.
4. next morning he'll call and say that the room rent has gone up, give some more.
5. the time fixed would be of 4 pm.
6. till 2 pm he will continue to engage with you, sending you more pics of the girl and asking you to wait as she is getting ready.
7. two hours prior to the deed. I got blocked on his number, whatsapp as well as instagram account.
8. good lesson learnt.
Friends, Need a quick help. I have been approached by this guy calling himself Alvin. He is asking for a full deposit in his account before I can book one of his babes. There are some sweet juicy Russians and Uzbek on Illegals Insta account. What is your suggestion bretheren? Can you please advise?Are you kidding me? Run away, now.
Baba Loda.
Man sorry you got burnt and a lesson to everyone who is offered this deal, don't do it! The only thing I pre pay for is MacDonalds and I know what I will get. In the P4 P scene pre payment is a nono even if asked for by the girl when you first meet. It allows you to get out if it is a bait and switch or to lower the rate if the experience is under par.
I hope it wasn't too expensive a lesson to be learnt.
I've never understood why anyone would even consider paying up front in any circumstance other than when dealing with a legitimate proven business.
Reminds me of the time my ex-girlfriend wanted to buy a computer from a guy who had an ad online. He only wanted like 2 million for it and it was worth more than that. He asked my girlfriend to send him a bank transfer of 500 k to reserve it and he would bring it to her. I told her that there is no way I would do that. He can arrange for us to meet him somewhere and we will buy it at that time, but no way should she send him any money in advance. She thought it was too good a deal to pass up so she sent him the 500 k from her own bank account. No surprise, after receiving the 500 k, she never heard from the guy again.
Ggekko2009
03-10-18, 04:52
So despite the good advise from rob. I went ahead and got burnt. Modus operandi so others can be safe.
1. Alvin claiming to be from illegals would contact.
2. you deposit money.
3. he'll share photos.
4. next morning he'll call and say that the room rent has gone up, give some more.
5. the time fixed would be of 4 pm.
6. till 2 pm he will continue to engage with you, sending you more pics of the girl and asking you to wait as she is getting ready.
7. two hours prior to the deed. I got blocked on his number, whatsapp as well as instagram account.
8. good lesson learnt.If life throws you a lemon, make a lemonade out of it. Lessons learned for you. Do the photos that he sent look real or plucked out from the internet?
Also, I don't know if it is against this forum policy guidelines since it only mentions no email address. Why not post the phone number attached to his WhatsApp account here if it is allowed?
I've never understood why anyone would even consider paying up front in any circumstance other than when dealing with a legitimate proven business. It's exam season in Cebu and I assume elsewhere so many girls on the chat rooms are offering help today visit tomorrow programs. I'd suggest they would have the same outcome.
Sorry guys, brain fade on my part with totally the wrong board. But the intent remains during exam period in Indo
Also, I don't know if it is against this forum policy guidelines since it only mentions no email address. Why not post the phone number attached to his WhatsApp account here if it is allowed?I don't think our friend Alvin will keep his phonenumber. He can buy simcards anywhere, anytime. And, of course, use a different name.
Pedros Needs
03-11-18, 11:41
Looking at booking either the Millenium Sirih or Saripan Pasific for upcoming visit.
Are these lady friendly and near some day time action?
I like shopping centers or malls are they not to far from either?
Cheers,
Pedr.
FritsVanegter
03-11-18, 17:55
Hello,
I promised a lady that I met several times a few weeks ago in central Jakarta to write something nice about her here. So here I go.
She is 36. Talkative, funny but serious. Has a day time job but will be able to meet you after work for short or long time. Her English is good! So are her skills.
I can share her whatsapp by personal message.
She prefers older men 40 up.
Greetings,
Frits.
Another tactic is that shortly before Ramadan the girls will be desperate for cash to fund their trip back to the Kampung. It's a very expensive time for them because they know that when they return everyone will have their hand out for something from the well to do city girl. She will be very reluctant to refuse and dispel the myth.I am planning a trip from May 11-14, timed just before the start of Ramadan. Hope it will be a good time to enjoy Jakarta.
Hi guys,
Is Hotel Travel still open and offering the same type of services? Service girls for IDR 350 K for one hour and Massage girls for IDR 250 K for 2 hours?
Cheers in advance.
Looking at booking either the Millenium Sirih or Saripan Pasific for upcoming visit.
Are these lady friendly and near some day time action?
I like shopping centers or malls are they not to far from either?
Cheers,
Pedr.Neither hotel is great, but both are fine. Usually Millenium is a great hotel anywhere around the world, but not in Jakarta. Sari Pan is an older hotel and I'd say the two are about equal. I'd go with the Sari Pan because you can walk over to Sarinah if you want. It's an old mall, but there are some places to eat and a good place to play pool. Grand Indonesia is the best mall in the city and it's close.
There really is no day action in Jakarta. Nothing starts before 3 pm.
Every hotel in the city is girl friendly.
I am planning a trip from May 11-14, timed just before the start of Ramadan. Hope it will be a good time to enjoy Jakarta.Terrible time to come to Jakarta. For sure every single place in the city will be closed on the 14th. I normally say don't carry your passport, but carry it at that time. There will be plenty of police shakedowns at that time.
I don't think our friend Alvin will keep his phonenumber. He can buy simcards anywhere, anytime. And, of course, use a different name.True that. However I doubt if he would change his instagram handle. So here goes.
Instagram handle name: illegals. Divisispa.
Its cleverly done as there are around 1000 followers on his handle and if you see some of the comments they would tend to make you believe that the person is real and genuine. He added me to the account before cheating me post which he blocked me on the group. Which means if I want to write a review, I can't.
Email: reflects the same name as his instagram account.
It is a significant burn for me. I could have enjoyed authentic Kimochi mabes atleast 5 times with that money. Anyways, no point crying over spilt milk, but sharing it all because I don't want any other brother to get burnt like I did.
Happy mongering.
I've never understood why anyone would even consider paying up front in any circumstance other than when dealing with a legitimate proven business.
Reminds me of the time my ex-girlfriend wanted to buy a computer from a guy who had an ad online. He only wanted like 2 million for it and it was worth more than that. He asked my girlfriend to send him a bank transfer of 500 k to reserve it and he would bring it to her. I told her that there is no way I would do that. He can arrange for us to meet him somewhere and we will buy it at that time, but no way should she send him any money in advance. She thought it was too good a deal to pass up so she sent him the 500 k from her own bank account. No surprise, after receiving the 500 k, she never heard from the guy again.Valid point Smoothy. Just that when I looked at his instagram account with 1000+ followers and some positive comments I got driven to believe that he may be legit. Of course the fact that the blood rushed southwards rather than northwards, didn't help the case!
If life throws you a lemon, make a lemonade out of it. Lessons learned for you. Do the photos that he sent look real or plucked out from the internet?
Also, I don't know if it is against this forum policy guidelines since it only mentions no email address. Why not post the phone number attached to his WhatsApp account here if it is allowed?Buddy photos that were on his profile, I double checked by doing a google image search and they did not appear in results, thereby further cementing my belief that may be he is genuine.
Totobiscot
03-12-18, 08:37
Hello Bros,
I'm going to Jakarta next week and I am wondering if some of you know if its still possible to take out girls from Malioboro and other spas.
I think its more enjoyable to have the girls for overnight in my hotel room.
Assume she wants one with a big bank account, with a heart condition, and preferably unmarried!
She prefers older men 40 up.
Knew a Indo gal who believed an Indian guy needed some money in order to complete his journey to the US to find an IT job and was offering to marry her. All on social media. Once she sent the money to help him, he disappeared. And this was a serious amount of money. The sad thing is that it was not the first time she got taken for a ride.
It is hard to ague with female logic or optimism.
Reminds me of the time my ex-girlfriend wanted to buy a computer from a guy who had an ad online. He only wanted like 2 million for it and it was worth more than that. He asked my girlfriend to send him a bank transfer of 500 k to reserve it and he would bring it to her. I told her that there is no way I would do that. He can arrange for us to meet him somewhere and we will buy it at that time, but no way should she send him any money in advance. She thought it was too good a deal to pass up so she sent him the 500 k from her own bank account. No surprise, after receiving the 500 k, she never heard from the guy again.
Banana Boi
03-13-18, 07:59
I noticed that Saturday, April 14 is Isra and mi'raj in Indonesia. Are Jakarta spas and bars usually open or closed on National holidays?
Terrible time to come to Jakarta. For sure every single place in the city will be closed on the 14th. I normally say don't carry your passport, but carry it at that time. There will be plenty of police shakedowns at that time.Thanks Smoothy for letting me know about May 14th. I will try to leave a day earlier to my next stop. Bangkok.
I hope 12-13th May (Sat-Sun) will be OK in Jakarta.
Going to be in Jakarta next week. Anyone can recommend a good outcall massage service to hotel. Pretty girls with happy ending?
Going to be in Jakarta next week. Anyone can recommend a good outcall massage service to hotel. Pretty girls with happy ending?Why don't you stay at FM 7 by the airport for at least a night to get me info on the place as they do have a sauna with girls provided.
Going to be in Jakarta next week. Anyone can recommend a good outcall massage service to hotel. Pretty girls with happy ending?You could go on Tinder and set your search for girls 18 to 21. Quite a few of the girls shown that look like models will actually be pimp massage services. They will send a girl to your room.
Looking for some help about Colosseum /1001. I'm planning on going one night when I am in town in April (theres a dj I really like) and I don't want to worry about getting jacked by the police or having any other problems getting back to the Hyatt, so I'm going to just sleep near the club and leave in the afternoon when I wake up. Money isn't an issue.
I'm trying to book a room, and for the life of me cannot figure it out. I searched on 1001 and don't get any hotel to show up (agoda, expedia, google, etc). K7 doesn't work either, and the Colosseum website doesn't help. Anybody know how I can book this online, or worst case scenario, can I just show up a bit early and book a room before I get wasted? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I used to love going for a sauna, steam and hot stone massage at Delta spa. The one at Gatot Sabroto was great but it's closed down. I hear the one at Grand Wijaya closed down. The one near Mangga Dua mall is a dump and so is the one at Harmoni. Does anyone know any good Delta massage places still left that also have sauna and steam room? I'd like to find a good one. However, can anyone verify that the hot stone massage is now 915,000 rupiah rather than the 500,000 it used to be? If that's the case, I'm done with the place even if there is still a nice facility remaining. I visited the one at Harmoni last week and they wanted 915k with no sauna or steam room. I will admit the therapists were very hot, but I wasn't there for that so I left. I have never seen therapists that hot at any other Delta so I am thinking perhaps that 915k was only the rate at harmoni since their girls are there for sex more than giving a massage. Just a guess.
Ggekko2009
03-19-18, 20:41
Looking for some help about Colosseum /1001. I'm planning on going one night when I am in town in April (theres a dj I really like) and I don't want to worry about getting jacked by the police or having any other problems getting back to the Hyatt, so I'm going to just sleep near the club and leave in the afternoon when I wake up. Money isn't an issue.
I'm trying to book a room, and for the life of me cannot figure it out. I searched on 1001 and don't get any hotel to show up (agoda, expedia, google, etc). K7 doesn't work either, and the Colosseum website doesn't help. Anybody know how I can book this online, or worst case scenario, can I just show up a bit early and book a room before I get wasted? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.I assume that DJ is Zedd. I wish I can be there to attend his performance. Anyway, I don't think 1001 is a hotel in a traditional sense that you book like ordinary hotel. They are mostly rooms that are designed for you to use during the events that you want to have a session with their on site girls. Again, I might be wrong. In any case, there should not be any problem for you to get on a taxi from 1001 to your hotel. It is pretty safe and as long as you use Bluebird taxi. Just book a decent hotel like Merkure hotel along Hayam Wuruk or Gajah Mada, or Mangga Dua, and hotels there are very close to 1001.
You could go on Tinder and set your search for girls 18 to 21. Quite a few of the girls shown that look like models will actually be pimp massage services. They will send a girl to your room.From reading here I discovered from WEchat you can get a girl to come to your room at a price of: Massage 200/300 + sex 300- 500 for sex = 600- 800 total.
What prices would I be paying for the Tinder girls. Same or via a pimp I would assume slightly more?
Going to be in Jakarta next week. Anyone can recommend a good outcall massage service to hotel. Pretty girls with happy ending?Hi Jonah,
Are you looking for massage or girl in your room. I know one free lancer who provide good incall service either on ST or LT.
Let me know if you are intrested to have her details then PM me.
Thanks.
James.
From reading here I discovered from WEchat you can get a girl to come to your room at a price of: Massage 200/300 + sex 300- 500 for sex = 600- 800 total.
What prices would I be paying for the Tinder girls. Same or via a pimp I would assume slightly more?The pimps are actually cheaper. Mainly because their girls are kampung girls not smart enough to use Tinder themselves rather than a fairly clever girl who can setup her own Tinder account. The pimp girl gets 300 for sex and the pimp gets the rest depending on what he negotiates with you. They are the same pimps that are on wechat so it's exactly the same price. They will negotiate price for full sex before even coming, so it's not a 200 + an extra charge for sex, it's a flat fee for sex inclusive.
If you try for a girl who says she will only give you a massage, those are the ones who will want between 200 and 300. There is no guarantee of sex, but it's probably still likely if you want it. They again, are the exact same price as the wechat girls.
Tinder has a lot of girls who are just normal girls though looking for either a boyfriend or money to pay the bills who will not give you a massage but can still be coerced into sex (either free or for a fee). I don't find many girls like that on wechat. Price is up to you. Ranges from free to into the millions for the girls who think they are special.
SteelBaton
03-20-18, 05:14
Jakarta veterans: I am chating now with one of my girlfriends in JK who is telling me that she knows of at least 2 prositutes who have been working with the police and setting up Bules for drug busts that require big time bribes to get out of. Does anyone think that happens? She claims that the girls get themselves invited up to a foreigner's hotel room and 10 minutes later the police are banging on the door and dragging the mark down to the police station where he will either be charged or forced to pay lots of money to be released. The woman will have planted drugs in the guys possession or the police will just claim they found them.
Ever hear any stories like that? This girl lives in North Jakarta and I gather these are freelancers who she claims make a regular practice of this.
Jakarta veterans: I am chating now with one of my girlfriends in JK who is telling me that she knows of at least 2 prositutes who have been working with the police and setting up Bules for drug busts that require big time bribes to get out of. Does anyone think that happens? She claims that the girls get themselves invited up to a foreigner's hotel room and 10 minutes later the police are banging on the door and dragging the mark down to the police station where he will either be charged or forced to pay lots of money to be released. The woman will have planted drugs in the guys possession or the police will just claim they found them.
Ever hear any stories like that? This girl lives in North Jakarta and I gather these are freelancers who she claims make a regular practice of this.I haven't heard any stories like this one specifically, but do know of at least one instance where a policeman tried planting something at the airport in the hopes of later turning it into a bribe (not really at liberty to give out details).
What worries me is that although the present government's anti-corruption actions have had some effect, it likely is causing governmental officials to find more creative (and perhaps safer) ways of extorting bribes, particularly given many of them had to go into debt to pay the bribes they needed to get their positions in the first place. And they were counting on using bribe money they received to pay off these debts. A vicious circle for sure, and one that might encourage the sort of police behavior you describe.
Incidentally, based on your sense of the girlfriend who told you this, how likely do you think her story is actually true?
Jakarta veterans: I am chating now with one of my girlfriends in JK who is telling me that she knows of at least 2 prositutes who have been working with the police and setting up Bules for drug busts that require big time bribes to get out of. Does anyone think that happens?
Ever hear any stories like that? This girl lives in North Jakarta and I gather these are freelancers who she claims make a regular practice of this.This is standard practice for people who pizz off the wrong people but I would be surprised to find it happen randomly to some poor guy that just took a girl back to his room.
You hear a lot about small drug busts in Bali and Jakarta where a long term resident is found with a couple of jonts or a small amount of coke in his house. Invariably there is a ripped off business partner, girls treated roughly or an embarrassed ex-boyfriend not being mentioned.
My first comment after a couple of nights in North Jakarta is I haven't seen so much petty bickering and lack of clarity among local staff.
1. Marlioboro. The girls they're bringing in are definitely Division 2 material. Heavily padded bra's and Hockey pants don't add anything. The 2nd floor curtain / privacy space that cost 20 ladies drinks has been shut down. Curtains remain open.
So you get sent to the third floor if you're daft enough to pay the 20 drinks like me. The lady room manager wasn't impressed by this move, as it's interfering with her business She demanded I should only expect 15 minutes access to the room for 20 drinks and for BBBJ. I could see she was trying to bully me and had to stand my ground. After remonstrations and a verbal standoff in Betawi which ashamed everyone else on the floor, I agreed one of the big Buddhas had to resolve. I made it clear to Buddha I would take around half an hour to finish as I wasn't reliable like the sunrise.
He runs the place and initially I was surprised he took the lady floor managers side. It was only after I said that it looked like the tail was wagging the dog and he wasn't in control of the club that he smiled and changed his mind.
BBBJ was very good.
2. Illigals. Smoky overpriced shithole, nothing else to say but avoid.
3. Tease club, Empo- Major body blow for me. They've shut the darn place down! The big new club that's taken years to build on the 5th floor is now open, Despite all the staff treating me like a long lost friend and offering a complimentary drink this new club sucks, unless you like listening to Bon Jovi covers and being blinded by the an expensive lighting system. I didn't stay around for the sexy dancers. I'll miss those secret little private rooms behind Tease. The new policy as with Malio is to hire a "bedroom". Can't see the naked lesbian shows returning in a hurry.
4. Classic, I'm not a regular but still had some time on my hands. 2nd floor Good atmosphere, had to negotiate hard and struggle to find a willing partner for BBBJ. It's only when I mentioned I was circumcised did the cheap farm girls agree. So there's a tip lads.
Classic costs peanuts. Had a few beers with some off duty police officers who said everyone's income had dropped drastically which maybe explains all the moody staff I came across.
5. Kota Indah. The aquariums are all "under renovation" forcing the girls into the public bars and tables. No one seems to have got the hang of things, and the girls scuttle around like chickens without a mother. A sober Filipino sailor wandered into Royale and sat at the bar as one does to drink. 10 minutes later he's getting shouted at by a Mamasan that either he swiftly goes upstairs or pay to drink with his "booked" partner. I don't think he even realised the WG next to him was there.
One year ago I would have found this funny but now it is concerning.
So on ordering some great fried pidgeon I was tempted by one girl who also had her sister on-site. But Sister wouldn't double up as she worked in "recruitment".
Kota Indah is still a good afternoon warm up venue. On enquiring I was told twice that the pole dancers have all gone to work in Batam. They'll be disappointed when they get there as I believe the pay is miserable and cougar dancers aren't given the recognition they deserve.
Follow up on hotels with executive lounges next maybe.
Banana Boi
03-20-18, 12:11
Tease club, Empo- Major body blow for me. They've shut the darn place down! The big new club that's taken years to build on the 5th floor is now open, Despite all the staff treating me like a long lost friend and offering a complimentary drink this new club sucks, unless you like listening to Bon Jovi covers and being blinded by the an expensive lighting system. I didn't stay around for the sexy dancers. I'll miss those secret little private rooms behind Tease. The new policy as with Malio is to hire a "bedroom". Can't see the naked lesbian shows returning in a hurry.
Terrible news. Out of all the bars in Jakarta Tease was the one I didn't mind spending time in. The staff was super friendly and professional. No pushy mamasans. Reminded me the most of a gogo bar in Thailand. The girls were only soso and the ladydrinks a bit expensive but a great place to chill out in between my sessions at Classic and Travel.
Any other bars like Tease in Jakarta?
On enquiring I was told twice that the pole dancers have all gone to work in Batam. They'll be disappointed when they get there as I believe the pay is miserable and cougar dancers aren't given the recognition they deserve.One of my former semi regulars was a dancer at KI among other venues such as classic, golden hands, etc. Since I am pretty much always awake all night, she would occasionally come to my place after work. She started coming over when she was 20, but I think she's around 23 now. Tight package for sure. She has indeed been relocated to Batam. She seems to enjoy it there because she is now making much more money. They don't have her working as a dancer though, she is working karaoke. She claims the other girls she danced with in Jakarta are also there. She has some Singaporean guy she met there who paid to get her a passport and is bringing her to Singapore on occasion now. She said he is "royal" and paid recently to get a house built in Indramayu. I don't know if the other girls have been as lucky, but it seems she's not wanting to return to Jakarta any time soon. If so, good for them, they were making peanuts as dancers in Jkt.
So you get sent to the third floor if you're daft enough to pay the 20 drinks like me.
It was only after I said that it looked like the tail was wagging the dog and he wasn't in control of the club that he smiled and changed his mind.
had to negotiate hard and struggle to find a willing partner for BBBJ. It's only when I mentioned I was circumcised did the cheap farm girls agree. So there's a tip lads.1) yes, you are daft to do that. LOL But I do daft things as well, so who am I to judge?
2) I'll have to use that one in the future!
3) That's good advice. I'd never thought of that as a selling point, but I have noticed recently that the girls often comment in the room that they are surprised I am circumsized. Obviously it does make a difference to them.
SeaTraveler
03-20-18, 20:43
I will be in Jakarta for a few nights in April and a few nights in May.
I have 3 nights in April.
Wed at Shagri-la, Thu at Falatehan & Friday at Hotel Mulia.
I have a room booked at Hotel Falethan on a Thursday as I had done before when I worked in Indonesia in 2014.
With the demise of Blok M I am reading about here, I am considering cancelling that reservation and staying elsewhere.
Should I cancel at Falatehan?
I was recently drinking with a buddy from out of town on a random weekday and he heard about Classic, having failed to talk him out of it on grounds of horrible service I figured I'll just tag along for the ride and have a few beers while waiting for him to be disappointed. As it was his first time in a place like that I tried to give him a few points on the ride over, but well. Kids in a candy-shop are hard to control. Him not being able to speak any Indonesian whatsoever didn't help matters either.
Parked on the 5th floor and walked straight into the club. Even before we sat down and ordered our drinks, each of us had 2 girls around us and a swarm of mami's trying to get attention. I was reasonably successful in getting rid of them, but my friend not so much. He was loving the attention and refused any help to get rid of his pembantu looking leaches. Is it SOP for the ugliest ones to get the first shot? Obviously the girls were nagging him to go to the room within 10 minutes when he finally came to his senses and got rid of them. They weren't even properly off of his lap yet when one of the dancers passing by grabbed his crotch, got his hand on her tits and he was on the hook for 10 shots within a matter of minutes. Classic. In all fairness he was fine with it, but you need to be strong and keep saying no in places like this if you just want to have a beer while getting the lay of the land.
I have had too many bad experiences with places like Classic and Travel and avoid going there as much as possible, usually sticking to just drinking while my buddies do their thing if unavoidable. That was until I saw this really smoking hot chick being introduced by a mami to the guy on the next table. Tall even without the heels, long white legs, flat stomach, perky tits without fillers in the bra and a killer face. I was hooked. I understand fully well that judging a girl on her looks in this place is pretty much a recipe for disaster and disappointment, but sometimes you have one of those moments where you just don't care about the service and you'll happily pay the 350 k to just get her naked. Called the mami over and got lucky that the neighbour went for the chubby one.
Now the mami I mentioned earlier was pretty useless for 2 reasons. The first reason was that despite giving her a description of my friends' preferences she came back 4 times with the total opposite of his preferences. He finally just started walking around and picked the first girl he liked that smiled at him. The second reason was in regards to my girl, my girl had hesitations to go with me (more on that later) which I could see from her body language and conversation with the mami after introductions. The mami however just pushed her towards me and pretty much told her that she had no choice. Now something like that just doesn't sit right in my book, no matter how hot she is I won't force her to come with me against her will and told this to the mami. I made it clear that she shouldn't force her girls to do something that they are uncomfortable with and if the girl really doesn't want to go with me, there's many other fish in the sea. Mami wasn't happy. I said the same thing to the girl, who paused and looked at me for a few seconds after which a huge smile appeared on her face followed by a hug in which she whispered "kamu orangnya baik, aku gak takut lagi kalau naik ama kamu". (You are a good person, I'm not afraid anymore to go to the room with you).
So, with my buddy finally provided for it was time to go to the rooms, the moment she locked the door she literally jumped me and started kissing me. Not just a peck, no, deep french kissing. Things got pretty hot in the room and literally everything was on the menu, although it did take some time as she was unbelievably tight. Even just a finger was difficult. But with enough spit (she had no lube.) we made it work. Bareback blowjob, bareback fucking, creampie, the whole nine yards. Funny thing is that at the beginning she did take a condom out of her purse, started to unwrap it during the BJ, only to put it on her fingers and finger my ass during the BJ causing me to almost shoot early.
She claimed to be born in Jakarta to Manadonese parents, 19 years of age and only started working there 3 weeks prior as a side-job to be able to pay for university. Can be true, can be a total lie, don't really care. I doubt she'll be there long if it's true and someone will put her up in an apartment in the city as a side chick.
What is the lesson learned? Classic will be shit for 99% of the time, but you do sometimes get lucky and meet that 1% and be surprised.
My buddy? Said the service was horrible and swore to never go back there. You win some, you lose some.
Random tip: If you like whiter asian girls, my tip is to not look at the face or arms but at the feet if possible. They normally use a shitload of make-up and whitening creams on their face / arms to make them appear whiter but once the clothes come off their real colour shows, which for me is a turnoff. I've found that they never do anything about the feet and that's a dead give-away.
My buddy? Said the service was horrible and swore to never go back there. You win some, you lose some.You should have taken him directly back and made sure he got your girl.
You should have taken him directly back and made sure he got your girl.That's what I suggested but he has this thing about going with a girl that his mates have been with.
For me they're all born again virgins after a shower.
I will be in Jakarta for a few nights in April and a few nights in May.
I have 3 nights in April.
Wed at Shagri-la, Thu at Falatehan & Friday at Hotel Mulia.
I have a room booked at Hotel Falethan on a Thursday as I had done before when I worked in Indonesia in 2014.
With the demise of Blok M I am reading about here, I am considering cancelling that reservation and staying elsewhere.
Should I cancel at Falatehan?In short, yes. Girls moved on. Remember the 1968 song 'Those were the days my friend. '?
That's what I suggested but he has this thing about going with a girl that his mates have been with.
For me they're all born again virgins after a shower.Since you had just cum inside her, it would probably be advisable to wait until the next day. However, the next day would have been fine, provided he got there early enough before she had a twat full of some other guy's jizz.
My first comment after a couple of nights in North Jakarta is I haven't seen so much petty bickering and lack of clarity among local staff.
3. Tease club, Empo- Major body blow for me. They've shut the darn place down! The big new club that's taken years to build on the 5th floor is now open, Despite all the staff treating me like a long lost friend and offering a complimentary drink this new club sucks, unless you like listening to Bon Jovi covers and being blinded by the an expensive lighting system. I didn't stay around for the sexy dancers. I'll miss those secret little private rooms behind Tease. The new policy as with Malio is to hire a "bedroom". Can't see the naked lesbian shows returning in a hurry.
Couldn't agree more, the new Tease is awful. Spent about 2 hours there drinking with some girls a Saturday night 3 weeks ago, it was no fun at all. I would rather burn the same amount of money in Malio club for much more fun. Visited Malio a few night before, me and my friend had 3-4 girls each for about 2 hours. Yes it is a bit expensive but wow you can have a lot of fun. Split in two it still isn't too bad.
Classic costs peanuts. Had a few beers with some off duty police officers who said everyone's income had dropped drastically which maybe explains all the moody staff I came across.It really is astonishing how quiet these places have become, and given the new regulation that Anies has passed, which gives the city authority to shut down any premises (even multiple-venue places) on the basis of any report, be it in the media or some busy-body sending a whatsapp message, of drug use or prostitution without any need for verification and without appeal I can only surmise the big meat markets' days are numbered.
That's fine, we'll get over it, the same way we got over Blok M dying. We have our smartphones and so have tens of thousands of girls who desperately need money, if Anies thinks he will clean up Jakarta from vice, good luck to him. I have a teaspoon he can borrow if he also fancies his chances at emptying the ocean.
The market has an unerring way of winning. It will take some ingenuity at first, and cause a little bit of inconvenience (let's face it Classic was only an option when we were too damn lazy to look for something better) but we'll win in the end and we will wonder why we ever worried about it.
It really is astonishing how quiet these places have becomeI'm not so sure. I do think the places are missing the guys who went there just to watch the dancers, but I'm not so sure the girls are not getting many customers for sex. I visited a few weeks ago and asked the girl I went with how long she had worked there. She said she had been there almost a year now. I asked her how many guys she has sex with there in a day. She claimed to average 7 a day and said she had never been with less than 5 in a day and her record was 11 in a day. She said she had worked at Malioboro for 3 years prior to Classic and preferred Classic because although she received less per shag, she got a lot more customers. She said she averaged 3 at Malioboro where they charged a million for her in the big room, that on occasion she had no customers at Malioboro, and her record there was 7.
Sounds like she is pretty busy these days.
I will say though that I do have some Indonesian friends who no longer go to those places because the only thing they wanted to see was the nude dancers.
Offshore Swell
03-25-18, 09:04
It really is astonishing how quiet these places have become, and given the new regulation that Anies has passed, which gives the city authority to shut down any premises (even multiple-venue places) on the basis of any report, be it in the media or some busy-body sending a whatsapp message, of drug use or prostitution without any need for verification and without appeal I can only surmise the big meat markets' days are numberedAgreed!, he certainly has them rattled, The aquariums are all darkened and you need to pick your girls from a darkened room. But then it isn't called the worlds oldest profession for nothing. OS just spent a fantastic night in favourite Jakarta haunt and my best avice would be to take some time to build a relationship with a good Mami, that's not splashing money around like you are King Pring but being respectful, a good Mami can be your friend. Once they know you are OK they can keep the sweeties flowing like you wouldn't believe. Having spent a fair bit of time in these places, the dynamics of human nature are the same as anywhere, here's where Indonesians stand out as they are some of the most socialised people you will ever meet. And given that our craft was practised in Indonesia long before anybody colonised the place I concur with HL77, I'm just going to miss the convenience of the mongering version of a Macdonalds drive through.
It seems that a lot of the population would rather live beside a mosquito filled drain and complain about the corruption as long as their leadership is from the right faith. Than accept vision and progress from a leader of the wrong faith. The risk is the further they get left behind the more they need somebody or something to blame.
Fortunately for us, you can get a full nutsack even when you live next to a dirty old drain and sometimes late at night when they are all tired of swatting mosquitoes, guess what？.
Hello guys,
This is my first forum in this country page, so please help a bit as I am coming for 1 week to Jakarta so need a help regarding mongering in a budget so want to have fun and coming for 1st time so want to know the places for full service and want to try also massage and other street hookers also. So please help in sharing in info and would be given info of India (Ahmedabad) so please help its urgent.
I have just been back in Jakarta after an absence of a year and a half.
On the second floor of Classic, my old favorite haunt (I like to plough through large volumes of girls), the girls no longer sat on couches along the walls but at the high tables. It was also darker than before and not so easy to see the girls. Mamasans are as pushy as before and now it is a bit more difficult to scan the girls. However, I had quite a nice time there.
King's Cross was a disappointment. Not very friendly. One really has to engage a papa / mamasan to get through to the girls.
Sumo ditto, and really very few girls and not many of the attractive. This may have been because it was a Sunday, they claimed so, IDK.
Malio was ok, same as before but much fewer girls in the part I used to like (closer to the main road).
Travel was a surprise. I have always found that it had a large number of very attractive girls, but that service was so consistently bad and cold that it must be due to special training aimed at bad service. However, this time it was different. Like many of the other places, Travel was also a little dark. Like Classic they had changed the system, with girls no longer sitting on the fenced off couches, but rather sitting on couches along the wall right by the tables. It was much more interactive, everybody was really friendly and service in the room was consistently great. Towards the end of the evening I was accosted by a girl who really wanted me to take her newbie friend to the room because she thought I would do a nice job of introducing her to the work. I resisted but ultimately obliged and it was a beautiful inexperienced girl next door GFE type of experience.
Conclusions: I was there too short to draw very strong conclusions, but the impression was fewer girls, slightly less attractive girls on average, a bit more subdued atmosphere, darker but still good fun. Only one girl didn't want BBBJ / French kissing / DATY. I always cleared these things before going to the room and often the response was enthusiastic. The world of mongering is going downhill (not just Indonesia), but hasn't ended yet.
Next time I think I need to get into the Tinder / Wechat universe, but it seems rather inefficient if you want to go somewhere and sleep with 3 girls in 3 hours, picking the ones you have best chemistry with out of 50 others.
This has been my observation, too, Cuke. I thought it just might be me but the more I travel to the same places the worse it gets especially, Vietnam, PI, Cambodia. More expensive and less GFE beauties. Still you can get lucky once in a while and it still beats the hell out of the fat ass psychotics in the USA So, grab it while you can, amigos. Try to get a line-up of regulars if you go to the same place often enough. Well, to each his own.
The world of mongering is going downhill (not just Indonesia), but hasn't ended yet.
As next week I am coming to Jakarta and would be staying for 1 week and I would be free after 2 days so want to monger. But as it is first time so I have no idea of anything about mongering in Jakarta so a help would be a great for me and interested in massage specially and then street hookers but in budget so a help would be great. And how much would be costing of one full day mongering. Please help by sharing info as I am coming for the first time.
King's Cross was a disappointment. Not very friendly. One really has to engage a papa / mamasan to get through to the girls.
Sumo ditto, and really very few girls and not many of the attractive. This may have been because it was a Sunday, they claimed so, IDK.Sunday sucks everywhere. But the fact that the mamasans are not aggressive at King Cross is one of the reasons I like it. When I see a girl I like, I will find a mamasan and get the girl brought over to me. If I don't find a mamasan near, I just walk over to the girl and wave her over to sit with me. There is really no need for a mamasan at that place (or any place for that matter). The girls are easy enough to view there without one.
I assume that DJ is Zedd. I wish I can be there to attend his performance. Anyway, I don't think 1001 is a hotel in a traditional sense that you book like ordinary hotel. They are mostly rooms that are designed for you to use during the events that you want to have a session with their on site girls. Again, I might be wrong. In any case, there should not be any problem for you to get on a taxi from 1001 to your hotel. It is pretty safe and as long as you use Bluebird taxi. Just book a decent hotel like Merkure hotel along Hayam Wuruk or Gajah Mada, or Mangga Dua, and hotels there are very close to 1001.So I wrote the girl that took my table booking at Colosseum, and she said you can book a room by calling directly and provided a phone number. So, looks like 1001 has rooms.
Have another question which I couldn't find an answer for, so looking for help. I'm landing at 11:30 pm on a Thursday and staying at the Grand Hyatt. I'm guessing I will be checked in by maybe 1 am (no clue though) Wondering if places like Malioboro are even open, and if so, any good that late, or am I better off going to BATS or CJs? At that time of night, I likely won't be too picky, on both looks or price. Just looking to get something done quickly, so would lean towards Classic / Travel / Marioboro if those are options. BATS / CJs is more work, but at least I know they are open.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Ggekko2009
03-26-18, 03:31
So I wrote the girl that took my table booking at Colosseum, and she said you can book a room by calling directly and provided a phone number. So, looks like 1001 has rooms.
Have another question which I couldn't find an answer for, so looking for help. I'm landing at 11:30 pm on a Thursday and staying at the Grand Hyatt. I'm guessing I will be checked in by maybe 1 am (no clue though) Wondering if places like Malioboro are even open, and if so, any good that late, or am I better off going to BATS or CJs? At that time of night, I likely won't be too picky, on both looks or price. Just looking to get something done quickly, so would lean towards Classic / Travel / Marioboro if those are options. BATS / CJs is more work, but at least I know they are open.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.Looks like you want to get some action fast, LOL. Anyway, CJ is opened until 3 AM on Thursday and there would still be freelancers there, though the herd may thin out by then. The standard price for these FL is typically 2 million Rp. Overnight, but you can probably get it for less by the time you get there as it approaches closing time. BATS is nearer to Hyatt though CJ is not too far away either, but they close at 2 AM if not mistaken. I have not been to BATS, so I cannot tell what you will get there. I would recommend that you go to the other establishments like Malioboro, Classic etc the next day at an earlier time. 2 AM is too late for those places anyway. Other Jakarta vets can probably provide feedback of the safety in and around those areas at this time of the night, particularly if you are traveling alone. I will feel safe traveling only between Hyatt and CJ via taxi during those wee hours. Make sure you only get on Bluebird taxis.
Hello guys,
This is my first forum in this country page, so please help a bit as I am coming for 1 week to Jakarta so need a help regarding mongering in a budget so want to have fun and coming for 1st time so want to know the places for full service and want to try also massage and other street hookers also. So please help in sharing in info and would be given info of India (Ahmedabad) so please help its urgent.Hi Jeet,
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So I wrote the girl that took my table booking at Colosseum, and she said you can book a room by calling directly and provided a phone number. So, looks like 1001 has rooms.
Have another question which I couldn't find an answer for, so looking for help. I'm landing at 11:30 pm on a Thursday and staying at the Grand Hyatt. I'm guessing I will be checked in by maybe 1 am (no clue though) Wondering if places like Malioboro are even open, and if so, any good that late, or am I better off going to BATS or CJs? At that time of night, I likely won't be too picky, on both looks or price. Just looking to get something done quickly, so would lean towards Classic / Travel / Marioboro if those are options. BATS / CJs is more work, but at least I know they are open.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.I had some information I could have shared privately but not on the public forum, but you can't receive PMs.
I had some information I could have shared privately but not on the public forum, but you can't receive PMs.Thanks Smoothy. Yeah. I live in Hong Kong and my home forum is a local forum so I do most of my posting there I'm a newb on this forum. Haven't gotten around to a subscription although Ill check it out.
Thanks for the info GG. Looks like I'll just hit CJs and see if theres anyone worthy. From what I can tell, opinions are very mixed on CJs quality. We have similar joints in HK (Escape, HK Cafe, Sparks, Neptune 3, etc) Escape is the high end, and the best girls there will often try to hold out for 5 mil juta for overnight, so for 2 mil for overnight, she doesn't need to be a supermodel for me. No big deal if theres no one I like. Theres always another night.
Sunday sucks everywhere. But the fact that the mamasans are not aggressive at King Cross is one of the reasons I like it. When I see a girl I like, I will find a mamasan and get the girl brought over to me. If I don't find a mamasan near, I just walk over to the girl and wave her over to sit with me. There is really no need for a mamasan at that place (or any place for that matter). The girls are easy enough to view there without one.Which do you prefer for mongering, Indonesia or Thailand?
Which do you prefer for mongering, Indonesia or Thailand?This has been discussed many times on this forum with myself and many others giving their opinions. If you search back, there were some good discussions. I prefer Thailand.
Ggekko2009
03-26-18, 18:10
Thanks Smoothy. Yeah. I live in Hong Kong and my home forum is a local forum so I do most of my posting there I'm a newb on this forum. Haven't gotten around to a subscription although Ill check it out.
Thanks for the info GG. Looks like I'll just hit CJs and see if theres anyone worthy. From what I can tell, opinions are very mixed on CJs quality. We have similar joints in HK (Escape, HK Cafe, Sparks, Neptune 3, etc) Escape is the high end, and the best girls there will often try to hold out for 5 mil juta for overnight, so for 2 mil for overnight, she doesn't need to be a supermodel for me. No big deal if theres no one I like. Theres always another night.Let us know how it goes for you with this trip, and hopefully your post will be as good as your last one. The girls in the looks department in CJ can be hit or miss. I do find higher probability of better girls on Ladies night (Wednesdays). I prefer the GFE type and usually tend to bump into a few good ones there.
I am new to Jakarta and am here for 2-3 days with some colleagues / clients from the US. One of my colleague mentioned that Jakarta is one of the most happening places in Asia and that we should have fun while we are here. If money was not a concern, is there a place / pick up joint for some good looking girls that want to hang out while we are in Jakarta, have a good time. Going to dinners, clubs and staying in nice hotels for 2-3 days? I have read the last few hundred pages on the forum and come to the conclusion that CJ's and Bats are the only options. Anything else you experienced mongers can suggest?
Ggekko2009
03-27-18, 16:15
I am new to Jakarta and am here for 2-3 days with some colleagues / clients from the US. One of my colleague mentioned that Jakarta is one of the most happening places in Asia and that we should have fun while we are here. If money was not a concern, is there a place / pick up joint for some good looking girls that want to hang out while we are in Jakarta, have a good time. Going to dinners, clubs and staying in nice hotels for 2-3 days? I have read the last few hundred pages on the forum and come to the conclusion that CJ's and Bats are the only options. Anything else you experienced mongers can suggest?In your case, if money is not a concern and time is more of the essence, then I recommend Colosseum 1001. You can either use their KTV or table on their dance floor with minimum cover charge. You can book the girls to accompany and entertain you while there, and book them out for overnight session. The quality of the girls there are pretty good but they do not come cheap. The ambiance is better from Thursday to Saturday. For other weekdays, things are a bit quieter there. But if you are into KTV and go in groups, then it does not matter anyway.
This has been discussed many times on this forum with myself and many others giving their opinions. If you search back, there were some good discussions. I prefer Thailand.Thanks for saving me the search.
Thanks for saving me the search.No problem at all. This is a good report on the topic.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1754728&viewfull=1#post1754728
No problem at all. This is a good report on the topic.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1754728&viewfull=1#post1754728This is great. However I would caution against making generalisations about looks and performance against girls across 16,000 islands. A big breasted north Balinese girl, a tall, slender Batak girl, a firey Bugis girl and a porcelain skinned Manadonese girl all look and behave very differntly.
The same can be said for other countries. I'm in the Philippines now and, while I usually prefer small spinners, have totally fallen for the Mindanao girls where 36 DD is regarded as flat chested.
I wonder if anyone has done a comparison of girls across the country?
Fast Eddie 48
03-27-18, 22:52
From reading here I discovered from WEchat you can get a girl to come to your room at a price of: Massage 200/300 + sex 300- 500 for sex = 600- 800 total.
What prices would I be paying for the Tinder girls. Same or via a pimp I would assume slightly more?To New image.
Most Wechat girl want 1.5 Mil and up for FS to your hotel now days for 600 k look like a rip off to me be careful don't be so naive.
Fast Eddie 48.
To New image.
Most Wechat girl want 1.5 Mil and up for FS to your hotel now days for 600 k look like a rip off to me be careful don't be so naive.
Fast Eddie 48.A decent good looking girls cost around 1 to 1.5 million. A street walker cost 450 to 600 K plus room and you don't know what you are going to get.
If you are not a regular monger it would be advisable to spend a decent amount on a girl as a one off good experience you can take it home, rather then be stingy and missed a good opportunity you get.
That my view.
To New image.
Most Wechat girl want 1.5 Mil and up for FS to your hotel now days for 600 k look like a rip off to me be careful don't be so naive.
Fast Eddie 48.You are the one being ripped off if you're paying 1. 5 jt for WeChat girls. 6-800 is the norm.
I used to love going for a sauna, steam and hot stone massage at Delta spa. The one at Gatot Sabroto was great but it's closed down. I hear the one at Grand Wijaya closed down. The one near Mangga Dua mall is a dump and so is the one at Harmoni. Does anyone know any good Delta massage places still left that also have sauna and steam room? I'd like to find a good one. However, can anyone verify that the hot stone massage is now 915,000 rupiah rather than the 500,000 it used to be? If that's the case, I'm done with the place even if there is still a nice facility remaining. I visited the one at Harmoni last week and they wanted 915k with no sauna or steam room. I will admit the therapists were very hot, but I wasn't there for that so I left. I have never seen therapists that hot at any other Delta so I am thinking perhaps that 915k was only the rate at harmoni since their girls are there for sex more than giving a massage. Just a guess.Try Kebon Jeruk, the one near the foodhall opposite the toll from Puri Indah.
It's been years so I can't tell you much on the price, but their facilities were very complete.
You are the one being ripped off if you're paying 1. 5 jt for WeChat girls. 6-800 is the norm.The girl only gets 300 k of that money. Whatever you pay above that goes to the pimp.
I do believe there are free lance girls out there charging more, but the girls controlled by the pimps do cost between 600 and 800. I don't even deal with those pimps these days though. If they start out with "you want sex? I block them. I like the girls who tell me it's "massage only". And I want them to speak to me only in Indonesian. If they speak English, they are almost assuredly a pimp and I block them.
No problem at all. This is a good report on the topic.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1754728&viewfull=1#post1754728Smoothy, I have been reading your reports on Indonesia for years and lately on Thailand as you seem to reside in South East Asia, and appreciate your expertise on mongering there. I reside in New York and am truly honoured that you favorably regard my views on SEA mongering. Thanks again.
Fast Eddie 48
03-30-18, 01:24
You are the one being ripped off if you're paying 1. 5 jt for WeChat girls. 6-800 is the norm.To Hihi.
If you want girl for 600 k all you going to get is skank. The SW at Lokosari plaza want 600 k for ST this days and they are low quality if you want cheap girl poor service then Hotel travel is your best bet for 350 k,I don't go for the Wechat girl most are rip off they will upsell you at your hotel room I go to disco and club to do all my hunting.
Fasf Eddie 48.
This is a share of my experience of what happened 5 months Back.
People say the service is poor in classic. How ever I seem to get the opposite. About me Indian 5'11 chocolate skin Built with little tummy late 30. The girls I chose where of the shy type who were interested and were showing the willingness though.
The time I entered the ratio was like 50 to 5 ladies. Pussy every where. Inside the room they were more interesting and I thought were thrilled as they meet some one from another culture, They were also not a dead fish (Dead fish happens most in Thailand for me) they were relatively short in height to me and max to my chest, I chose real cute ones on both occasions they did cooperate to all positions I asked for and I was relaxed and took my time till the phone rang. I can say if you are an Indian Indonesia is a better place to monger than Thailand.
I think the atmosphere in Indonesia is not so capitalistic as in Thailand. However since I like the whole atmosphere of Pattaya I would be travelling there in a month will post updates soon on them may be may 20 onward.
This chick on Tinder appears to have huge tits. I asked her point blank in Indonesian if her tits were that big and real. She said yes. She even claimed to have never had a baby. So I had her come over. She shows up and her tits do look that big in clothes. But when it came time to take off her clothes, she was extremely shy, and after the clothes came off, her tits were tiny. What a rip off. She had this weird bra with coconut like things in it. If you see her on tinder, I'd recommend avoiding her.
I don't know if any of you guys attended this event back in 2005, but I was going through some of my old Jakarta stuff and found this old ticket. It was the TOP sexy tabloid party at PitStop bar (had been renamed Avenue by that time) in front of Sari Pan Pacific hotel. Best event I have ever attended in Jakarta. The TOP tabloid girls were stunning and they danced wearing just bikini bottoms and thin white t-shirts tied to expose their stomachs with no bras while guys poured water on their tits. Then they had a lesbian act with 2 of the hottest girls I have ever seen in Jakarta. Those girls obviously weren't lesbians because they also pulled guys from the crowd into their act. I wish I could find more events like that one. I was shocked the Sari Pan allowed something like that to go on there. LOL I miss those old tabloids too. They were excellent. We ended up going home with two of the girls from the show.
I arrived in Jakarta late last night and managed to get to CJs around 1:30 am, so I had 90 minutes to find something for the night. As I was walking in, three older guys were walking out and one of them said something to the effect that there was no talent there. I was concerned but figured I may as well check it out anyways.
My sense is that either people are spoiled or I have very low standards. The ratio seemed around 1 to 1 when I entered, and I saw plenty of girls that were reasonably attractive. A few seemed really young. As soon as I walked in, a girl who was probably a 6 was all over me. She was pretty wasted but also lots of fun so I went along with it. She started at 3 M for overnight and I got her down to 2 M. I didn't really negotiate because by the time I got around to it, I only had about 20 minutes so I just figured I would just go with it.
I shagged her three times between her trips to the bathroom to puke. She was really wrecked. In the morning after she left, I noticed she puked a little on the bed. I got to tip housecleaning well this trip. She was pretty good performance wise. I didn't try the backdoor, but otherwise she did everything.
Tonight I hit Classic terminal 2 and Colosseum. Classic is really dark. I could barely check out the girls because they were all at the tables and again, really dark. I would avoid if you are a guy that likes to compare all the girls and stresses over picking the best available. I wound up going with the first girl the mamasan brought because she seemed really nice and her body was my type. 375 k for 1 hour 1 shot. No kissing and CBJ, which I know some guys don't like, but she was very energetic which made up for it. All in all, not bad and dirt cheap so no complaints.
Afterwards I went to 1001/ Colosseum, primarily to see Giuseppe Ottaviani, who I first saw maybe 10 years ago and wanted to check out for the sake of nostalgia. I got there really early so I first checked out the pool area. The girls there are significantly better than Classic and CJs. I would rate them on the same level as Darling 1 in Macau.
I was quoted 1. 4 for locals and I didn't catch the price for the foreign girls but they weren't that hot so it didn't matter. I also checked out the KTV girls and they were generally somewhere between Classic girls and the pool girls. The girls at the pool I saw seemed hotter. I saw probably 50 girls at the pool and maybe 50 KTV girls that were in the 1st floor waiting area as well as wandering around.
I wound up skipping getting a girl and just got a regular massage for 180 k. It was an OK massage. I specified no HJ (not sure if it would have been offered). I can only do so many shots and I didn't want to waste one on a HJ. Afterwards, I went to the club alone.
I saw literally no unattached girls in the club from what I could tell. Almost every girl there was with at least a couple guys, and none of them looked remotely like they were on the job. A Lot of people were clearly on meds but it seemed no different there than lots of other clubs I've been to. I didn't feel unsafe in the slightest the whole time I was there. I've read about clubs like the old Stadium being really sketchy, but Colosseum seemed fine. The music was good and I thought the light show was pretty good.
Tomorrow I'll either hit CJs, with more time to hunt, or maybe Malioboro.
Ggekko2009
03-30-18, 23:47
I arrived in Jakarta late last night and managed to get to CJs around 1:30 am, so I had 90 minutes to find something for the night. As I was walking in, three older guys were walking out and one of them said something to the effect that there was no talent there. I was concerned but figured I may as well check it out anyways.
My sense is that either people are spoiled or I have very low standards. The ratio seemed around 1 to 1 when I entered, and I saw plenty of girls that were reasonably attractive. A few seemed really young. As soon as I walked in, a girl who was probably a 6 was all over me. She was pretty wasted but also lots of fun so I went along with it. She started at 3 M for overnight and I got her down to 2 M. I didn't really negotiate because by the time I got around to it, I only had about 20 minutes so I just figured I would just go with it.
I shagged her three times between her trips to the bathroom to puke. She was really wrecked. In the morning after she left, I noticed she puked a little on the bed. I got to tip housecleaning well this trip. She was pretty good performance wise. I didn't try the backdoor, but otherwise she did everything.
Tonight I hit Classic terminal 2 and Colosseum. Classic is really dark. I could barely check out the girls because they were all at the tables and again, really dark. I would avoid if you are a guy that likes to compare all the girls and stresses over picking the best available. I wound up going with the first girl the mamasan brought because she seemed really nice and her body was my type. 375 k for 1 hour 1 shot. No kissing and CBJ, which I know some guys don't like, but she was very energetic which made up for it. All in all, not bad and dirt cheap so no complaints.
Afterwards I went to 1001/ Colosseum, primarily to see Giuseppe Ottaviani, who I first saw maybe 10 years ago and wanted to check out for the sake of nostalgia. I got there really early so I first checked out the pool area. The girls there are significantly better than Classic and CJs. I would rate them on the same level as Darling 1 in Macau.
I was quoted 1. 4 for locals and I didn't catch the price for the foreign girls but they weren't that hot so it didn't matter. I also checked out the KTV girls and they were generally somewhere between Classic girls and the pool girls. The girls at the pool I saw seemed hotter. I saw probably 50 girls at the pool and maybe 50 KTV girls that were in the 1st floor waiting area as well as wandering around.
I wound up skipping getting a girl and just got a regular massage for 180 k. It was an OK massage. I specified no HJ (not sure if it would have been offered). I can only do so many shots and I didn't want to waste one on a HJ. Afterwards, I went to the club alone.
I saw literally no unattached girls in the club from what I could tell. Almost every girl there was with at least a couple guys, and none of them looked remotely like they were on the job. A Lot of people were clearly on meds but it seemed no different there than lots of other clubs I've been to. I didn't feel unsafe in the slightest the whole time I was there. I've read about clubs like the old Stadium being really sketchy, but Colosseum seemed fine. The music was good and I thought the light show was pretty good.
Tomorrow I'll either hit CJs, with more time to hunt, or maybe Malioboro.
Great report. Be prepared to have small bills when visiting Malioboro, since you will be pestered to the point of harassment by everybody there for tips. So, did you end up staying overnight at 1001?
Be prepared to have small bills when visiting Malioboro, since you will be pestered to the point of harassment by everybody there for tips. I'm not sure what you are talking about here. I've been to Malioboro over 100 times and I have never even once had to whip out any bills at all to give any tips other than the 100 k I give the girl in the room after we have sex. I do buy lady drinks for the dancers, but those go on the bill.
Ggekko2009
03-31-18, 11:35
I'm not sure what you are talking about here. I've been to Malioboro over 100 times and I have never even once had to whip out any bills at all to give any tips other than the 100 k I give the girl in the room after we have sex. I do buy lady drinks for the dancers, but those go on the bill.Unfortunately, I had a different experience. Every time I pass through any areas, the workers would keep saying, "Boss, tips". Sure, I can choose to ignore them, but after so many times from different people, it gets under my skin. Even when I try to flag down taxis on the road in front of the building, the security would even say to me, "Boss, tips".
Unfortunately, I had a different experience. Every time I pass through any areas, the workers would keep saying, "Boss, tips". Sure, I can choose to ignore them, but after so many times from different people, it gets under my skin. Even when I try to flag down taxis on the road in front of the building, the security would even say to me, "Boss, tips".I am guessing you mean when you walk past the guys sitting in the hallway upstairs who clean the rooms. Yes, sometimes they ask for a tip. I laugh and walk right past them. I've never directly given them a tip, but the girls do leave money in the room for them. I forget how much they leave them. As far as the security guys downstairs wanting to get me a taxi, I ignore them too. If they always got me a nice taxi, I would let them get me a taxi. But they don't. They get the front taxi in the cue regardless of whether it's a nice one or not. So I walk past them and directly to the street and get my own taxi.
I got stuck in this crappy city because I missed a connecting flight. Had to book a new ticket and spent 5 nights checking out a few places. I have not been into the city for 3 years, always just in the airport.
One thing I want to warn foreigners going to Classic Hotel 3 F. I went there 4 times during my stay and the cashier tried to scam 3 out of 4 times.
1. First time, I did not take a lady but ordered a Sprite. The cashier lady charged me something like 175,000, but I reminded her I only ordered a Sprite, the she said sorry, price down to 96,000, but still I did not believe that is the real price, but I thought I have not been here 3 years and price may have gone up, so I just paid and left. But later on I found out that was padded. Always ask the receipt if you suspect the cashier try to scam you.
2. Second time, I took a lady, and did not order anything. On my way out, the cashier, a different lady tried to charge me the entrance fee 40000. I knew that if you take a lady the entrance fee is waived, So I reminded her that I took a lady, then she asked me back you have lady? I said yes. Then she gave me the exist card. Very obvious she tried to scam newbies.
3. Third time, took a lady, did not order anything. The only time out of 4 that things went smooth. No cheat.
4. Fourth time, the same thing happened again as second time. Another cashier tried to scam me the entrance fee. I had to tell her I took a lady already, then got my exist pass.
They have done this 3 out of 4 times to me. I believe they do this very often to foreign customers. Be careful of these cashiers.
Classic 3 F has changed format. All the girls now sitting in the middle where customers used to sit. They are divided into different groups with different color uniforms, managed by different mamasan. The lighting was really bad. It is very hard to figure out their face and shape. You may have to pull them somewhere near the lights to take a better look. It is getting really hard to choose.
The nude dancing is all gone. Only singer with band and girls dancing fully clothed. The mamasans, I feel, are much more aggressive than before. Maybe business not as good as before, I don't know. But the way they pull you here and there full force and parade their girl team after team can be quite intimidating for newbies. A few times I really got fed up by all these aggressive pulling and hard selling, I had to take a break in the toilet to catch a breath.
Classic 5 F is more mellow, and it is a little brighter than 3 F, but I went in 2 times, the girl number was only about 10-15, no where near the number in 3 F. The entrance charge in 5 F is 30000 if you don't order.
The fee is now 365000 for a session, up from 350000.
I heard the city government knocked down the entire Kalijodo red light district some time ago. This was a place not for the faint-hearted. But for many years I really enjoyed taking the rough adventures. I have found many really unpolished gems from here. Also have seen some really gorgeous girls working here for peanuts. Really had a good memory from here for so many years, another place that has gone into the memory lane just like many other places in Asia.
I asked a few taxi drivers and they all told me that Kalijodo is completely gone. I even took a taxi to look to see if there is any residual activity, but there was none in that whole area, in fact these houses were flattened. But later on a Uber driver told me that Kalijodo has relocated into another area, quite far from the original one. I did not have time to check it, but I promised this Uber driver if he shows me the new location, I will buy him 2 ladies one night for present.
Anyone knows about the new incarnation of Kalijodo? I will try to check it out next trip into Jakarta.
Banana Boi
03-31-18, 20:55
I really got fed up by all these aggressive pulling and hard selling, I had to take a break in the toilet to catch a breath.I had one mamasan follow me across the bar to the toilet. I took the scenic route checking out all the girls who were not hers. I purposely took my time in the toilet. When I came out she was still at the door waiting for me!
How much do the mamasans make out of the 365 k? How much do the girls make?
I stayed in Mangga Besar 2 out of my 5 nights. I noticed for the first time there were many car / van brothels along Mangga Besar 8. I was walking down Mangga Besar 8 away from the main road passed Hotel Travel, I was called by a pimp and noticed a van with 4-5 girls in there. I took a look they looked mediocre but not too bad. Then the pimp guided me a few meters away and there were 3 more cars / vans with 2-4 girls inside. No one was outstanding but they beat the Lokasari workers by far.
The pimp then asked me my type, I told him slim, young, no baby, he then made a call, told me to wait 3 min. Then came another car with 2 girls inside. One girl had an okay face but really nice shape. The pimp told her to get out and told me to feel her. He grabbed my hand and told me to touch her tits and feel her tummy and tried very hard to sell her to me, keep saying no baby, young young, no baby.
He quoted me 500000 without room. I told him that is more than Hotel Travel nearby. He then said 400000, promised me good service. I paid and the same car took me and girl back to my hotel nearby.
The session was quite alright, she demanded a tip for BJ 100000. Later on, I walked around some more, I found out there were more mobile brothels in Mangga Besar. I even found a bajaj with 2 girls sitting inside nearby my hotel, and the driver was trying very hard to sell me. Both of them actually looked alright, price quoted to me again 500000, I am sure that can be bargained down.
I had one mamasan follow me across the bar to the toilet. I took the scenic route checking out all the girls who were not hers. I purposely took my time in the toilet. When I came out she was still at the door waiting for me!
How much do the mamasans make out of the 365 k? How much do the girls make?Deduct the taxes and fees (likely 30%, but may vary) then deduct the cost of the room, then split between the parties. Each party will earn about 115 K IDR in the example when the room is 50 K and the split is 50/50.
Deduct the taxes and fees (likely 30%, but may vary) then deduct the cost of the room, then split between the parties. Each party will earn about 115 K IDR in the example when the room is 50 K and the split is 50/50.It's a damn crime that the mamasan makes even 1 tenth of what the girl makes, let alone equal or more than what the girl makes.
I stayed in Mangga Besar 2 out of my 5 nights. I noticed for the first time there were many car / van brothels along Mangga Besar 8. I was walking down Mangga Besar 8 away from the main road passed Hotel Travel, I was called by a pimp and noticed a van with 4-5 girls in there. I took a look they looked mediocre but not too bad. Then the pimp guided me a few meters away and there were 3 more cars / vans with 2-4 girls inside. No one was outstanding but they beat the Lokasari workers by far.
The pimp then asked me my type, I told him slim, young, no baby, he then made a call, told me to wait 3 min. Then came another car with 2 girls inside. One girl had an okay face but really nice shape. The pimp told her to get out and told me to feel her. He grabbed my hand and told me to touch her tits and feel her tummy and tried very hard to sell her to me, keep saying no baby, young young, no baby.
He quoted me 500000 without room. I told him that is more than Hotel Travel nearby. He then said 400000, promised me good service. I paid and the same car took me and girl back to my hotel nearby.
The session was quite alright, she demanded a tip for BJ 100000. Later on, I walked around some more, I found out there were more mobile brothels in Mangga Besar. I even found a bajaj with 2 girls sitting inside nearby my hotel, and the driver was trying very hard to sell me. Both of them actually looked alright, price quoted to me again 500000, I am sure that can be bargained down.Do you have any photos? Maybe there are some gems there, but I haven't been lucky enough to find any yet. I have wandered over there on occasion when I'm really drunk and in the area, but I still end up not taking the girls because I have never find one I liked. Some of the girls standing beside motorbikes near Jalan Pelatehan Blok M are far hotter than any girl I have seen in those pimp mobiles up north. There are even some decent girls on occasion standing by motorbikes along the road across from Malioboro. I just hate for those guys on the motorbikes to make any profit off the deal so I very rarely do it.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2018/03/30/two-more-entertainment-venues-to-be-shut-down-after-alexis.html
Anyone want to predict which wll be the next to be shut?
So I spent last night at Malioboro and went back to CJs. I will do another field report soon. Lots of opinions to share. My list of places I've checked out so far now includes. CJs, Malioboro, 1001, Classic. I will try Travel and likely one other place tonight. Probably BATS.
After that, I'm not sure what else is worth checking out for the rest of the week. I leave on Friday. I am thinking maybe of trying a Korean KTV somewhere (please recommend one if you know one), as well as trying golden crown. I'm not worried about safety as I'm pretty experienced in Asia in dodgy places. I have my head on a swivel.
Other than that, I don't have any strong feelings so I'm looking for ideas. The one thing I could really use is an afternoon place with good spa facilities (sauna, jacuzzi) and reasonably hot girls to bang. Malioboro had that but I would prefer to try somewhere else.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2018/03/30/two-more-entertainment-venues-to-be-shut-down-after-alexis.html
Anyone want to predict which wll be the next to be shut?Almost certainly Classic. It was in its death throes two weeks ago.
Level 5 seemed to have few women actually available. Service staff were disinterested for the most part. Not many customers.
Level 2 was better with more girls available but far fewer than what was available 6 months ago. Girls sitting on the stools normally reserved for customers.
Travel had the same set up. So dark I couldn't barely see what the girls looked like. Didn't seem to have a decline in customers to the degree that Classic did.
King Cross same set up as above on the ground floor. Few girls. Dead on a Saturday evening.
New Medika similar to above. No fishbowl. Few customers (although early evening).
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2018/03/30/two-more-entertainment-venues-to-be-shut-down-after-alexis.html
Anyone want to predict which wll be the next to be shut?This is a sad trend. I had a great time in Geylang Singapore in 2008 but it is now a shadow of its former self. CP, in China was once my favorite hobbying destination in Asia until the 2014 crackdown. I had a fantastic time in Jakarta in 2015 but there seems to be a crackdown there as well albeit slower than CP. I may have to rethink a planned visit there. May have to confine myself to Thailand.
Kota Indah has not changed much except a few shops changed their names. The last trip I came here must have been 4-5 years ago. I remember one time many years ago me and a friend were stopped near the entrance of Kota Indah by 2 police as we were walking to get a taxi, fake police or real I don't know, and we were extorted 100000 each for not carry passport with us.
This time, I got off Jayakarta station and put on my pollution mask that covers most of my face, and walked the short 3 min walk to KI. Made sure there were no uniform men around this time. I went in a few shops, and in general I feel the number of girls were less as compared to 5 years back. Each shop 10 to at most 20 or so. The quality was a notch lower than Travel or Classic. But I would say there were several doable ones.
I remember years ago the girls were in the fish bowl, but this time most of them were sitting outside in the customers sitting. I did not check all these shops, but checked a few. I am not sure I can remember the names correctly, Sariyu, Royal, LA, MRT, and 2 more I cannot remember the names. The price was also similar to years ago in my memory and almost the same as Travel or Classic. I was quoted 330 to 380, some places have different tiers.
So basically the price is the same as Travel or Classic, so I just don't think tourists need to come here unless you are so curious to see the entirely local scene. There was not much pressure from the mamasan. I just ordered a soft drink and watch the girl flow in a few shops. But spent 2 hours in KI and went through 6 or so shops, and did not see anyone that stood out.
But I decided to take a random acceptable girl just for fun. In the last shop MRT, I picked one with a slender body, face acceptable. I think she was either price 330 or 350, I don't remember. I paid 400 k together with a soda and a beer, and got some peanuts change back. The room was clean but a few level down from these rooms in Classic and Travel.
The girls do not speak any English here except yes, no, ok, and some common hand gestures like HJ, BJ. So far this trip the girls I met all demanded tip for BJ, this girl as well. She was quite fun, all smiles and giggle, and kept talking Bahasa non-stop to me even she knew I do not understand a word.
The atmosphere is entirely local, but I did not feel unwelcome, or feel uneasy. The whole night I only saw one other non-Indon, an Arab looking guy. It got quite crowded with local guys later hour. Soft drink and beer are cheap local price. It was kind of fun but I would not come here on regular basis.
Banana Boi
04-01-18, 22:00
Almost certainly Classic. It was in its death throes two weeks ago.Does not appear to be Classic since it's neither in West Jakarta nor is it a MP or a disco. From the article, "I have received a recommendation letter from Jakarta Tourism Agency to close two entertainment venues, one massage parlor and one nightclub, in West Jakarta," Yani said.
So basically the price is the same as Travel or Classic, so I just don't think tourists need to come here unless you are so curious to see the entirely local scene. There was not much pressure from the mamasan.
No pressure from the mamasans is as good a reason as any to check it out. Thanks so much for the review of an area that does not get reviewed here often.
So far this trip the girls I met all demanded tip for BJ, this girl as well. Sorry, but this post is confusing to me. It's just standard procedure for any brothel girl anywhere in Jakarta to shower, get in bed with you, and start giving a BJ and / or full body tongue bath. I think I had one girl years ago who didn't want to give a BJ and I threw her out and had the mamasan replace her immediately. A tip is standard at the end of the BJ, Fuck for the hour, but I've never even once in 20 years had any girl ask me specifically for an extra tip to give me a BJ in a brothel in Jakarta.
Maybe I just have a very delicious looking dick?
Crocodilexp
04-02-18, 02:36
It's a damn crime that the mamasan makes even 1 tenth of what the girl makes, let alone equal or more than what the girl makes.To be fair, the girls at Classic and Travel normally do so little work in the room and have such meh attitudes that the mamasans may well be working harder and more strenuously, albeit not for the benefit of the punter, that's for sure.
Sorry, but this post is confusing to me. It's just standard procedure for any brothel girl anywhere in Jakarta to shower, get in bed with you, and start giving a BJ and / or full body tongue bath. I think I had one girl years ago who didn't want to give a BJ and I threw her out and had the mamasan replace her immediately. A tip is standard at the end of the BJ, Fuck for the hour, but I've never even once in 20 years had any girl ask me specifically for an extra tip to give me a BJ in a brothel in Jakarta.
Maybe I just have a very delicious looking dick?Someone must have really tasty cock. In my experience going back over 10 years or so in Jakarta, I never had this luck as you mentioned BJ as standard procedure in lower tier bath houses like Travel or Classic. They take a shower and always want to go straight to sex, and ask them for a BJ, their first reaction would be no no, then I insisted then they would try to say or hand gesture 100, for me this has become the standard procedure in these low end bath houses. The only exception is bath house like Alexis, I had several sessions there in the past, BJ was always on auto mode.
In fact, I got more automatic blow jobs in now defunct Kalijodo more than anywhere in Indonesia. Really miss that place.
Someone must have really tasty cock. In my experience going back over 10 years or so in Jakarta, I never had this luck as you mentioned BJ as standard procedure in lower tier bath houses like Travel or Classic. They take a shower and always want to go straight to sex, and ask them for a BJ, their first reaction would be no no, then I insisted then they would try to say or hand gesture 100, for me this has become the standard procedure in these low end bath houses. The only exception is bath house like Alexis, I had several sessions there in the past, BJ was always on auto mode.I think I know what mistake you are making. You must already have a hard on. After the shower and lying in bed, I am still soft as a wet noodle. Intercourse isn't even possible at that point. If they don't give me a BJ, they aren't going to get my dick hard, so they don't have any choice but to give me a BJ. On occasion, a girl will try to get me hard with a hand job rather than blow job, but that won't do anything for me so they have to go for the BJ whether they like it or not.
I'm not saying the girls will all be good at giving a BJ, but they never ask me for an extra tip to do it. The only place in Jakarta I ever visited where a fantastic BJ was guaranteed was Maribaya (now closed). The girls there told me the mamasan trained them how to give a good BJ. That mamasan must have been a good trainer. Suffice it to say, the mamasans at the places in North Jakarta don't teach these girls much about how to give good service to a man.
This would be my last update for this Jakarta accidental trip. Life back to normal and next hunting trip will be at least a while from now. I went in Hotel Travel actually twice in a night. First time I went in and walked around. Mamasan were active but not aggressive like Classic 3 F. The girls were divided by color uniforms and sitting on the sofa on all sides of the building. I asked the price, it is the same as before 350 k. I did not pick or look closely at the girls because I felt something wrong with tummy after eating these Bakmi so I went back to my room for a toilet break.
When I exit and about to pay the entrance, the nice lady cashier just waved me through, said no need to pay. So if you just look around and do not order anything or take a lady, I guess the entrance is free just like before. The cashier lady was honest. Impressed.
A few hours later, I entered again and walked around. There is a back room with pool tables and some more ladies there. I made 2 rounds front and back, these mamasan were more gentle than Classic 3, but still were trying hard to introduce their team to you one by one, in a more polite way, I felt a bit more comfortable here. I finally picked a girl, later in the room I found out she has huge tattoo on her back, and also really sagging tits, even though her tummy looks very tight and flat. These were already a turn off. So did not finish with her. But always give these girls 100 k or up for tips, they really only get peanuts from the 350 k (Travel) or 365 k (Classic). Some girl this trip told me they get only 150 k.
SeaTraveler
04-02-18, 11:59
I arrive in Jakarta on April 25. I will need a working phone ASAP.
I am bringing my Samsung Galaxy S8 which Verizon tells me will work internationally and is not locked.
The question is, how do get the phone set up on a local network in Indonesia?
If, for some reason, I can't get my phone working, can I rent a local phone for the 3 weeks I am there. Too costly to buy a new one for just a short period of time.
What are my options please?
Terima kasih,
Bob.
But always give these girls 100 k or up for tips, they really only get peanuts from the 350k (Travel) or 365k (Classic). Some girl this trip told me they get only 150k.I think I mentioned that the girl I took recently at Classic told me she never does less than 5 guys a day. She claimed to only make 100k, not 150k. But either is peanuts. I also always give 100k tip (unless they demand a condom for the BJ, in that case they get zero). But at 100k from the place and 100k tip from every guy, that's 1 million rupiah per day they are making. That's damn good money for an Indo. (not every guy does give 100k though, I realize that.).
To put it into perspective, I recently saw one of my old favorites from King Cross working as a waitress at a Sushi place. She now says makes a salary of 2.4 million per month and works every day for 12 hours a day. I asked her why she doesn't go back to working as a hooker and she claims she has an Indonesian husband now and he won't allow it. I asked her why she even needed to work since she now has a husband. She claimed he made less than her since he works as a security guard at an apartment building.
Someone must have really tasty cock. In my experience going back over 10 years or so in Jakarta, I never had this luck as you mentioned BJ as standard procedure in lower tier bath houses like Travel or Classic. Hmmm, makes me wonder what the reason might be, that they treat you differently. Ten years ago I was still pretty active in Jakarta and to my recollection, BJ's (I insisted on BBBJ) and cat baths were included.
To put it into perspective, I recently saw one of my old favorites from King Cross working as a waitress at a Sushi place. She now says makes a salary of 2.4 million per month and works every day for 12 hours a day. I asked her why she doesn't go back to working as a hooker and she claims she has an Indonesian husband now and he won't allow it. I asked her why she even needed to work since she now has a husband. She claimed he made less than her since he works as a security guard at an apartment building.For old times sake you should have had invited her to a hotelroom for an additional fee. LOL!
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