Jakarta

[Travel Buddy]

So I spent last night at Malioboro and went back to CJs. I will do another field report soon. Lots of opinions to share. My list of places I've checked out so far now includes. CJs, Malioboro, 1001, Classic. I will try Travel and likely one other place tonight. Probably BATS.

What are the going prices in CJ's?

[RodneyRude]

This chick on Tinder appears to have huge tits. I asked her point blank in Indonesian if her tits were that big and real. She said yes. She even claimed to have never had a baby. So I had her come over. She shows up and her tits do look that big in clothes. But when it came time to take off her clothes, she was extremely shy, and after the clothes came off, her tits were tiny. What a rip off. She had this weird bra with coconut like things in it. If you see her on tinder, I'd recommend avoiding her.Was just about to book her to. Saved the day.

[MsgForU]

I managed to buy a cheap ticket arriving in Jakarta on Jun'10th, but I completely forgot about.

Ramadan. Considering that it does last 1 month and there's still Eid, I would to like hear from the veterans.

('this my maiden trip). My itinerary would include Classic, Malioboro, CIJ, BATS, vans on Mangga Besar.

Kings Cross and maybe Wechat / Tinder.

I fly in from Manila and haven't bought the ticket out of Jakarta but ETD would be around Jun 17th.

So, the question is: Will the venues be closed or have few girls? Would you drop this trip and from Manila.

Go to BKK or Pattaya instead? Your views are welcome and much appreciated.

[Smoothy]

For old times sake you should have had invited her to a hotelroom for an additional fee. LOL!I am guessing you know very well that I did indeed do that. LOL.

[Questner]

I think I mentioned that the girl I took recently at Classic told me she never does less than 5 guys a day. Very true; and to pay attention, if you ask to take a girl out usually the management will charge you 5 times the short time fee.

Is it the direction of things to come? Logging into Tinder through FB may not work.

http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/indonesian-communications-minister-threatens-to-shut-down-facebook-if-privacy-breached

[Offshore Swell]

Anyone knows about the new incarnation of Kalijodo? I will try to check it out next trip into Jakarta. (Quote).

You could try Rawa Malang at Cakung, East of Tanjung Priok port. But this place is seriously not for the faint hearted.

[Smoothy]

Very true; and to pay attention, if you ask to take a girl out usually the management will charge you 5 times the short time fee.That's if you take her out after 11 pm. If you take her out at say 5 pm, they will want even more.

[Crocodilexp]

I managed to buy a cheap ticket arriving in Jakarta on Jun'10th, but I completely forgot about. Ramadan. Considering that it does last 1 month and there's still Eid, I would to like hear from the veterans. ('this my maiden trip). My itinerary would include Classic, Malioboro, CIJ, BATS, vans on Mangga Besar. Kings Cross and maybe Wechat / Tinder.


June 10th is close to Eid. Ramadhan itself is subdued, but Eid is generally empty, the worst time for mongering. Some venues would be closed, others have reduced hours, and of those open, most girls won't be present.

If the primary purpose of your trip is mongering, might be good to reconsider.

Eid is, however, a decent time to visit Jakarta since traffic is much better than at other times. If you're meeting a civilian who stays in the city, it's not a bad time to be around at all.

[Eszpresszo]

June 10th is close to Eid. Ramadhan itself is subdued, but Eid is generally empty, the worst time for mongering. Some venues would be closed, others have reduced hours, and of those open, most girls won't be present.Out of curiosity, how does this impact Bali? I recently witnessed Bali to have a very Hindu culture, but I am aware that many of the WGs in the X-houses are Javanese or from other islands. So I am wondering if they head home for Ramadhan or do they prefer to remain wayward girls making some loose change on the Isle of the Gods.

[Smoothy]

I managed to buy a cheap ticket arriving in Jakarta on Jun'10th, but I completely forgot about.

Ramadan. Considering that it does last 1 month and there's still Eid, I would to like hear from the veterans.

('this my maiden trip). My itinerary would include Classic, Malioboro, CIJ, BATS, vans on Mangga Besar.

Kings Cross and maybe Wechat / Tinder.

I fly in from Manila and haven't bought the ticket out of Jakarta but ETD would be around Jun 17th.

So, the question is: Will the venues be closed or have few girls? Would you drop this trip and from Manila.

Go to BKK or Pattaya instead? Your views are welcome and much appreciated.If you can cancel that ticket for no fee, I would do it immediately. There's a reason that flight was cheap. No non-Muslim in their right mind flies into Indonesia just before Idul Fitri. Especially for a sex vacation. Flights out of Jakarta at that time are tough to get as people scurry to flee the area, but flights in from countries where few Indonesian Muslims are based are of course cheap. Flying in at that time makes no sense at all unless you are going there to celebrate Ramadan by praying all day long in the mosque every day starting the 12th or 13th when every place in town will be shut tight for 3 or 4 days. Depends on the police situation because that varies year to year.

[CoaxK]

Been in and out of Jakarta and the region for 15+ years.

Myself and a few friends are coming back again for 4 days from April 24 and staying at the Mulia (easy CJ's access).

Does anyone have intel on where a good soapy massage can be had these days? There was a place called Kartika that I went to years ago. Dingey as hell but great fun.

Any pointers greatly appreciated.

Also if you are in town and want to hang with some guys that like to party, hit me up.

[SeaTraveler]

I'll be there April 25 to 29. Staying at Mulia on Friday. Shangri-La on Wednesday (BATS).

You have no PM capability.


Been in and out of Jakarta and the region for 15+ years.

Myself and a few friends are coming back again for 4 days from April 24 and staying at the Mulia (easy CJ's access).

Does anyone have intel on where a good soapy massage can be had these days? There was a place called Kartika that I went to years ago. Dingey as hell but great fun.

Any pointers greatly appreciated.

Also if you are in town and want to hang with some guys that like to party, hit me up.

[BabaLoda]

Hi,

Anyone tried GoJek massage? Any possibility of a plus plus there? Any views would be appreciated.

[MsgForU]

After RTFF, seems I missed this "small" detail.

Thank you for the inputs. This was supposed to be a mongering trip so.

Maybe I will extend my stay in the Phils or divert to Thailand.

[SeaTraveler]

I was working in Indonesia in 2014 from June to December. Age 59. Ramadan that year was in July-August.

I had enough companionship during Ramadan, but you have to have "boots on the ground" in advance to make contacts to last you thru the drier times of Ramadan.

I made a great overnight deal with a favorite, in exchange for a plane ticket for her to Surabaya the next day.

I remember loving the reduced traffic in Jakarta a lot.


This was supposed to be a mongering trip so.

Maybe I will extend my stay in the Phils or divert to Thailand.

[Smoothy]

I remember loving the reduced traffic in Jakarta a lot.That's the only advantage. But my girlfriends are all out of Jakarta at that time, and all the fun places are closed, so where am I supposed to go to with that light traffic?

[Smoothy]

I was working in Indonesia in 2014 from June to December. Age 59.There is a nickname the girls have for mongering guys your age in Jakarta. It's the same nickname they use for me. Berondong Tua.

[CodeName47]

My other two reports are in bali, and medan for day 1, day 2 & 3.

Day 4 Jakarta.

Flight is 1 PM to Jakarta from Medan. So, started around 10 from hotel. Had 2 hours to kill in airport. Luckily flight is on time. Saw the board Reflex (something) in Medan airport near my gate. 1-hour 185 IDR. For 20 $ I can spend the boring waiting time in a relaxing mood. Without hesitation booked 1:00. And the lady on the counter said 200 IDR I can get head massage as well. Said go ahead and add it and asked her to watch the gate which can be seen from her seat. She smiled and said yes, she will let me know once the gate is open. The massage was very relaxing and the girl did a wonderful job in leg massage and hand. While doing the head massage the receptionist said gate is opened. Paid the fees and rushed to the flight. Overall, a new experience. I never had a massage just seconds before flight. I slept the remaining 1:30 minutes in flight fully.

Reached Jakarta airport. Contacted my DateInAsia contact to inform I am heading to my hotel Redstart in Jakarta. She said she will be there by 6:00 pm. I came hotel get fresh and waited for her. Around 7:30 got a call that, her mum was calling her home so she must go. I was greatly disappointed. She said she will come tomorrow. I said don't bother, I am meeting others. She said she will go home and come back 9:00 PM. Based on Jakarta traffic I know she won't be able to make 9. I said if she is not in before 10. I will sleep. Both agreed. After 10 asked 5 minutes extension few times and its 11 already. Came to reception and asked me to come down. Since the lift access is by card. I went downstairs and sending a message where are you. She was there but I didn't realize she was that old I took her to room and said her that I couldn't recognize her face based on the photos in dating sites. She wants to go home in 1 hour. I was ready for action by kissing. She said no sex. I am almost pissed off now. I asked her if she want to go, she can go now. She asked for taxi charges 300 k. Based on the grab fairs her location is 30 k by that time. Gave 100 k and said good bye. She is still happy and left.

This hotel is near travel hotel. Just opposite. So, wanted to try the action there. While going to travel hotel saw this lady going in the grab bike. She saved a few dollars. Lots of great looking girls in travel hotel. Charing flat rate of 350 k per hour. Before finishing my second drink, one of the sharp mama son got me a girl to my taste. And ask me how with eyebrows. I paid and took her upstairs. Very slim moderately tall speaks decent English. Turned out to be a nice companion to speak in the room. Joined me in shower, she has paid lots of attention to right areas, I am returned the favor as well. She loved kissing. Had a proper DFK with her. With that I am almost ready for the action. She was giving a good BBBJ and finished in 10 minutes. She asked for a drink. I ordered on corona for me and another one for her. Had cuddled for a while and finished the drink and left. Gave her 50 K tip and left to room.

Day 5 Jakarta.

Wanted to replace my phone and buy some clothe back home. So, spent most of the time in two malls know for the respective merchandise. Surprisingly every single time When I am in food court. I get some eye contacts. Initially I was hesitant to approach.

Then in the IT mall the girls who work in the shop had the dinner together. One girl remembered me searching for mobile while she was in the stall. She smiled. I just tried my luck by started speaking like how is lunch. And as the discussion goes, pulled the chair and sat there. The girls started asking lots of questions from where I am from when I leave where I stay etc. One asked my WhatsApp number and I realized there is an opportunity. Now shared my number and got a big tub of ice cream box for the girls to share. I left the mall. Mgs started flowing during the entire day. The rest want to meet during Sunday. Only one wants to see me that night.

That girl turned up around 8:00 PM. A bit chubby to my taste but Turned out to be enjoyable. Again, as usual great kissing and after an hour she wants to leave home. Left around 10:15 pm. I gave her 300 k taxI money but she refused. So asked her nearby place to book a grab car for her. She agreed. So booked a cab and then later deducted from my grab account. Its four days had only 5 hrs of sleep / day. Wanted to sleep at least 8 hrs.

Day 6 Jakarta.

Another old contact which I have missed seeing last year Jakarta trip saw my WhatsApp Status and approached me to meet. She has promised that she will be in next one hour. So, had the breakfast at hotel and like promised she came on time. But to my horror, she is at least 35+ easily approaching 40. Nothing wrong with that but she is older than me. I didn't want to discuss this in lobby. So, took her to room and said that She is nowhere near the photos she has shared. I usually do a video chat before meet. But both these Jakarta contacts were in my WhatsApp for more than a year and sharing lots of photos. I said I will pay her to leave. Paid her taxi fare 100 k and said good bye. Saved the contact with more information in my mobile. So that I won't respond to the contacts in future.

Wanted to try Marlboro but the club opens only night. I have never tried the soapy massage before. So very eager to try that one while in Jakarta. But to my surprise no good info there. There is a blog saying Oasis, Kimochi Spa offers one. I was very close to Oasis but couldn't see the spa. So, went there and chose a girl by looking at the photo. Had the one-hour massage. The room has vinyl sheets. So, thought I am in the right place. But the massage is the regular massage with CBJ. Finished the deal and left.

Don't want to finish the day without FS. So, tried again travel. This time very young 19 years old from Bekasi. Very young, exactly my type. Enjoyed the session. Great kissing. Didn't do BBBJ properly but I was just hard, with her body. Absolute stunner. Had two rounds paid 100 k as tips and returned to room and crashed.

Will continue my trip in bali section.

[KilledSoul]

This is a share of my experience of what happened 5 months Back.

People say the service is poor in classic. How ever I seem to get the opposite. .....
Inside the room they were more interesting and I thought were thrilled as they meet some one from another culture, They were also not a dead fish (Dead fish happens most in Thailand for me)....

I think the atmosphere in Indonesia is not so capitalistic as in Thailand. However since I like the whole atmosphere of Pattaya I would be travelling there in a month will post updates soon on them may be may 20 onward.Your experience is exact opposite of mine. For me attitude of BKK girls were much better compared to Jakarta. But I was also willing to pay a lot in BKK compared to Jakarta and also I was fit when in BKK and had a tummy while visiting Jakarta. The only experience I liked was with a Malio chick. She was extremely sweet and caring during the session everything other session in Jakarta was mechanical for me.

[KilledSoul]

This is a share of my experience of what happened 5 months Back.

People say the service is poor in classic. How ever I seem to get the opposite.......

The time I entered the ratio was like 50 to 5 ladies. Pussy every where. Inside the room they were more interesting and I thought were thrilled as they meet some one from another culture, They were also not a dead fish (Dead fish happens most in Thailand for me)....

I think the atmosphere in Indonesia is not so capitalistic as in Thailand. However since I like the whole atmosphere of Pattaya I would be travelling there in a month will post updates soon on them may be may 20 onward.I had the exact opposite experience of you. Girls in BKK were much more GFE compared to Jakarta. Most of the girls in BKK were OK with BBBJ but that's not the case in Jakarta. Two factors that may contribute to it is that I was paying double of Jakarta rates in BKK and I was slim when visiting BKK. Only GFE I had was in Malio from a girl named Sofia and it was fantastic, all other sessions in Jakarta were lackluster and mechanical.

[Koperen Klaas]

That's the only advantage. But my girlfriends are all out of Jakarta at that time, and all the fun places are closed, so where am I supposed to go to with that light traffic?Don't you have a little list with phone numbers?

[Smoothy]

Don't you have a little list with phone numbers?What good does that do when they all went home to their villages for Idul Fitri?

[Crocodilexp]

Your experience is exact opposite of mine. For me attitude of BKK girls were much better compared to Jakarta. But I was also willing to pay a lot in BKK compared to Jakarta and also I was fit when in BKK and had a tummy while visiting Jakarta. The only experience I liked was with a Malio chick. She was extremely sweet and caring during the session everything other session in Jakarta was mechanical for me.I agree with this, service is always better for me in Bangkok than in Jakarta (usually mechanical). That said, I mostly go with freelancers in Bangkok, whereas in Jakarta I've mostly done big brothel girls who seem to get 5 guys a night and are thus tend to be burned out and mechanical. In addition, I speak decent Thai but very little Indonesian, and that could affect both the choice and the vibe.

Sex workers in Thailand seem to be there of their own free will (not just freelancers, but also bar/massage) and there are few intrusive middlemen. In Indonesia, with few exceptions, they seem heavily managed. I try to avoid saying "owned", but sadly, that might not be far from the truth for some. Even streetwalkers on Mangga Besar seem to have a pimp who is pushing the girls to customers.

This makes the Indonesian pro scene off-putting for me to a degree. In Jakarta regular girls are a much better deal, far more rewarding both in bed and out of bed. In Bangkok, the opposite is the case, regular girls are easy enough, but often duds, and the effort is rarely worth it.

[BabaLoda]

Hi,

Anyone tried GoJek massage? Any possibility of a plus plus there? Any views would be appreciated.P.S. - have tried kimochi new Mabes, the-heaven (grandwijaya), metropolis blok m massage.

Hands down Kimochi new is the best. The'Heaven is full of attitude for no reason, Metropolis. You can raw-dog (which is scary). So I want to now enjoy the comfort of my home and hence asking. Let me know please. Thank you!

[Smoothy]

Hands down Kimochi new mabes is the best.That particular Kimochi is in a crap area of town (Mangga Besar) so I have never tried that particular one, but I have no doubt it is good. Like any of these places, it depends on the girls they happen to have working there at the time.

[CodeName47]

P.S. - have tried kimochi new Mabes, the-heaven (grandwijaya), metropolis blok m massage.

Hands down Kimochi new is the best. The'Heaven is full of attitude for no reason, Metropolis. You can raw-dog (which is scary). So I want to now enjoy the comfort of my home and hence asking. Let me know please. Thank you!I can confirm that, Kimochi has a decent room with amazing girls. I tried once, they girl is perfect 8/10. Very good massage. Asked for body slide but no one understand even after using google translate. Finished with wonderful BBBJ and HJ.

[Banana Boi]

Hands down Kimochi new is the best.Is this the kimochi across from hotel travel? What's the price for room and girl?

[SeaTraveler]

I worked on Java in 2014.

7 hours by train from Jakarta, but I got a handful of times in Jakarta. Loved it.

I have been preparing for this return visit since December.

As a precursor, I have an account on Indonesian Cupid, where I find most girls looking for a long-term relationship. Here are my 4 outliers out of maybe 100 who contact me.

1. I have one from IC (DIYA) who will openly fulfill my needs. The word naughty in her profile was a tip off. Duuhhh.

2. Another from IC (ANINDHITA), who I chat with on WhatsApp, agreed to meet me at my hotel. She asks "what I expect from her". I reply "nothing, you are the host in your country". Her reply shocked me, "If you looking for 1 night stand, I don't mind too. ".

3. Also from IC (MARIA) surprised me. Beautiful girl, Adamant that there will be no sex. Then, allegedly, her Dad got sick last month and things have now changed. Today she asks, "Can you help me if I stay with you when you are here. Will you give me money? I do not want to waste my time just for free. " She has a kid and has moved out of Dad's house to some small apartment in an alley. Claims she needs money to live and for child.

3 A. With Maria, I spent a fair amount of time over the past 2 months chatting and video-calling. She was my love affair, a woman to do things with away from mongering. From far away, it appears her story is true. I just don't know, but figure I have nothing to lose.

3 be. Before all this she agreed to come pick me up at the airport and drop me off at Shangri-La where I am staying.

4. Also from IC (LIYA), now wants to meet me at my hotel. The day after I arrive (because I arrive Wed evening and am set for Lades Night at BATS & CJ'S). Not sure of the best way to ask her about sex and what her plans with me are.

SUGGESTIONS from the experts please. Also comments and thoughts are appreciated.

SEA Traveler.

[Member #4698]

P.S. - have tried kimochi new Mabes, <snip> Hands down Kimochi new is the best.


Is this the kimochi across from hotel travel? What's the price for room and girl?


That particular Kimochi is in a crap area of town (Mangga Besar) so I have never tried that particular one, but I have no doubt it is good. Like any of these places, it depends on the girls they happen to have working there at the time.There are 5 Kimochi Spas in and around Jakarta. The oldest one, let's call that one Kimochi Spa 1, is located in front of Hotel Travel in Mangga Besar.

Then there is a second newer one, lets call this one Kimochi 2 even though it has formally changed its name to Pangeran Spa. Google Pangeran Spa for the exact location. This might be the one BabaLoda is reporting on if he is talking about Kimochi "new".

And then there is: Grand Kimochi Spa (Kimochi 3), then Kimochi Spa Cikarang / Bekasi (Kimochi 4) located outside Jakarta in Cikarang, & lastly the Grand Kimochi Spa Taman Palem (Kimochi 5) near the Aston Hotel. They all might be worth checking out, I don't know, but #5 is half way to the friggin' airport. LOL.

But thanks for the original report BabaLoda. The Kimochi Spas are definitely a good topic for conversation.

[Smoothy]

There are 5 Kimochi Spas in and around Jakarta. The oldest one, let's call that one Kimochi Spa 1, is located in front of Hotel Travel in Mangga Besar.

Then there is a second newer one, lets call this one Kimochi 2 even though it has formally changed its name to Pangeran Spa. Google Pangeran Spa for the exact location. This might be the one BabaLoda is reporting on if he is talking about Kimochi "new".

And then there is: Grand Kimochi Spa (Kimochi 3), then Kimochi Spa Cikarang / Bekasi (Kimochi 4) located outside Jakarta in Cikarang, & lastly the Grand Kimochi Spa Taman Palem (Kimochi 5) near the Aston Hotel. They all might be worth checking out, I don't know, but #5 is half way to the friggin' airport. LOL.If I am not mistaken, New Kimochi Mabes 2 is none of those.

Here's New Kimochi Mabes 2. It's basically behind Kartika or Illigals. you could walk to it from Hotel Mercure.

https://www.instagram.com/dewakimochi/

I have to laugh about the one across from Hotel Travel. That's the first spa I ever tried in Jakarta. What a dive.

Of the chicks on that Kimochi Mabes instagram site, I think I'd probably go with this one. It appears they do not have a steam room or sauna though so I won't be visiting.

[Hilo77]

SEA Traveler.Your groundwork is admirable, you don't make clear what sort of relationship you are looking for, non-pro, semi-pro, GFE, long-term (ie the entire course of your visit) or one night stand, but here's how they look to me.

1, Diya, commercial, simply ask her the price and decide whether you are willing to pay, any more than 1 million and I wouldn't bother as at that money you can simply get whatever you need anywhere without the bother of meals and drinks or shopping (which I am guessing you are thinking about if you are going to the trouble of chatting and getting to know them).

2, Anindhita, semi-pro, will take longer to get to the point about the price and will pretend she doesn't normally do this sort of thing but strategy aside she will be pretty much the same as Diya.

3, Maria, semi-pro, but more manipulative, will cost a lot more than the two above, she also has a kid. Honestly, you will be paying over the odds for what you can get for 350 in one of the big meat markets and without the hassle. Don't let her take control of your stay in Jakarta, which I guarantee she will try to do. You are the customer (for have no doubts that is what you are), you must maintain the upper hand.

4, Liya, she is willing to come to your hotel, for what? Dinner and a drink, as a convenient meeting place from which you can go out to see the sights? Or to come up to your room? Any Indonesian woman who is willing to meet a complete stranger in his hotel room is a pro, otherwise I would put her down as semi-pro. Don't be afraid to broach the topic, they aren't shy about asking your plans.

So you have a nice line-up, all of them no doubt up for fun, and I am sure they will all make your stay an interesting one.

Just don't kid yourself, they are all commercial, more or less, choose a different one every night, don't invest anything like the idea of some romantic love match in any of them. In your free time go to a brothel or massage parlour where you will get the exact same result for less emotional commitment and half the price.

Have fun.

[Banana Boi]

Of the chicks on that Kimochi Mabes instagram site, I think I'd probably go with this one.She's my type. Both girls I've been seeing in komplek Kota Indah are similar to her.

[Smoothy]

She's my type. Pretty much every girl on that site is my type. But that doesn't mean I will go there. LOL. There are so many places in Jakarta and so many girls. Almost every venue has nice girls.

However, I would like to find one with a sauna and steam room to relax before and after having sex.

[SeaTraveler]

Your groundwork is admirable, you don't make clear what sort of relationship you are looking for, non-pro, semi-pro, GFE, long-term (ie the entire course of your visit) or one night stand, but here's how they look to me.

So you have a nice line-up, all of them no doubt up for fun, and I am sure they will all make your stay an interesting one.

Just don't kid yourself, they are all commercial, more or less, choose a different one every night, don't invest anything like the idea of some romantic love match in any of them. In your free time go to a brothel or massage parlour where you will get the exact same result for less emotional commitment and half the price.

Have fun.THANKS for the sage advice. It all makes sense to me.

I still think Maria is a non-pro, based on all I have seen and heard as she can only make it out for 1 of the 4 nights I am there, because she has to make an excuse to her Mom why she is gone all night. BUT, you made me painfully aware to watch my step with her. I thank you for that insight. I was overlooking it.

In response to your other questions:

1. I want variety. In 2014, when in Jakarta, I would go to Maribaya spa in the afternoon or early evening and then arrive at CJ's or BATS around 10 pm. I would often end the night on Blok M at Top Gun. So I am good for about 3 women a day.

2. Mostly short term associations as I don't want the emotional drain. Plus, I am not interested in lying to some girl about marrying her just to get in her pants.

3. I definitely insist on GFE 90% of the time. I want some connection, just not too much. A stellar BBBJCIM will make me forget the GFE aspect, but that is next to impossible to find.

4. I hate meat markets or dis-interested providers. I had the worst ever experience of my life in Cilacap in 2014. After being there about 4 months, I asked a local cab driver about women for sex. I had not seen any P-4-P in my 4 months working there. He promised to find a girl for me. One night he calls and says he got one. When I got to town to meet, the girl took a look at me and jumped back in his cab. A first for me. I am the only bule in this town, but now I understand from this forum, that not all girls like foreigners. Oh well.

Anyway, he promised to bring another and about an hour later he did. She was young, age 20. Once in the hotel room I was down DATY. When I looked up she was sitting there like she wished she was anywhere else & just watching TV. ZERO excitement and ZERO participation. It was so "cold" that I just stopped, got up, got dressed and walked out. Never again.

Thanks again Hilo for the advice.

SEA Traveler.

[SeaTraveler]

Based on advise from Hilo 77, I started to be a bit more aggressive with my Indo Cupid dates. Regarding their expectations of our time together. As I arrive in less than 2 weeks.

Several will now mention that they want to come to my room after "drinks and dancing". Ha ha ha.

These are girls with legitimate full-time day jobs. I guess looking for some evening fun, excitement and presumably supplemental income.

I understand that the BATS & CJ'S freelancers start at 1. 5 million.

Where do these part-timers fall in the pay scale?

Is there ever a freebie and how do you know the etiquette? I am ok with paying, but I am just curious. Never had a freebie in Indonesia. Had a few in the Philippines years ago.

Thanks In Advance.

SEA Traveler.

[Rob Jones]

Based on advise from Hilo 77, I started to be a bit more aggressive with my Indo Cupid dates. Regarding their expectations of our time together. As I arrive in less than 2 weeks.

Several will now mention that they want to come to my room after "drinks and dancing". Ha ha ha.

These are girls with legitimate full-time day jobs. I guess looking for some evening fun, excitement and presumably supplemental income.

I understand that the BATS & CJ'S freelancers start at 1. 5 million.

Where do these part-timers fall in the pay scale?

Is there ever a freebie and how do you know the etiquette? I am ok with paying, but I am just curious. Never had a freebie in Indonesia. Had a few in the Philippines years ago.

Thanks In Advance.

SEA Traveler.With freebies I usually will make sure that pay for food, drinks, and maybe buy a gift. Pretty much like you were on a date. In the past I have bought perfume from Australia that they have requested or alcohol. I think the term freebie is a misnomer but it's refreshing not digging into wallet after the act.

[Crocodilexp]

Here's New Kimochi Mabes 2. It's basically behind Kartika or Illigals. you could walk to it from Hotel Mercure.

https://www.instagram.com/dewakimochi/
Nice lineup. What are the prices there?

[Member #4698]

If I am not mistaken, New Kimochi Mabes 2 is none of those.
Here's New Kimochi Mabes 2. It's basically behind Kartika or Illigals. you could walk to it from Hotel Mercure. https://www.instagram.com/dewakimochi/

Of the chicks on that Kimochi Mabes instagram site, I think I'd probably go with this one. It appears they do not have a steam room or sauna though so I won't be visiting.A lot of the girls look young and doable. My first impression from the website is; the place kind of reminds me of Nataree. The girl whose photo I have just attached to this post, for example, found right at the top of the instagram list looks cute, sweet, and naughty to me. Just my kind of girl. 555. Thanks for the link. I might just check this place out in my ongoing efforts to expand my Jakarta horizon.

[Banana Boi]

To give back to this thread I took one for the team and visited kimochi Mabes 2. Oddly the sign in the front says no. 6.

Walk in and you see photos of about 100 girls on the wall. Problem is that every girl I wanted was not working, including the photo Smoothy posted. I believe her name was keysha and not working today or this week. Maybe 20 girls available. The guy was really nice and patient as I tried to figure out who was working. Photos on one part of the wall and numbers listed of the girls working a distance away. I finally chose a girl. She did not look as good as the photo. She wasn't unattractive by any means but just facially not my type. I would not have chosen her at classic, travel or any of the kota Indah bars.

The massage was decent. She kept all her clothes on and moved away when I went for her tits. HJ was OK. No asking of any other extras. She was actually a very fun girl.

Price was 180 k for room and 150 k for the girl. You do not pay the girl directly so who knows how much of that 150 k she keeps. She would not accept a tip above the 150 k. Not sure if BBBJ or FS available we never discussed that and I figured I would save my energy for tonight.

Not sure if I will return. I really need to see a girl in person. I'm very picky. I only chose a girl to TOFTT. Difficult to catch a taxi after. You need to walk back out to the main street. I decided to just walk all the way to jonisteak.

Are delta and my place massage parlors the same where I do not get to see a girl first?

[Member #4698]

Nice lineup. What are the prices there?Scroll down the website. You will find this pic with prices. There are also a few pictures of the rooms. They look basic, but relatively clean and well lit.

Good, timely report BB. You posted it while I was atttaching the price photo. I can't believe full service is not on the menu for a little extra. I prefer to see the girls in person first before choosing too. Who doesn't? So, it sounds like this is a pretty simple, baisic place. It still might be worth checking out on a slow afternoon when I have nothing better to do, but it is not at the top of my priorities list.

[Smoothy]

Are delta and my place massage parlors the same where I do not get to see a girl first?Yes, that is true. You cannot see the girls first. But you can see them first at Tematik Spa.

[Hilo77]

Several will now mention that they want to come to my room after "drinks and dancing". Ha ha ha.

These are girls with legitimate full-time day jobs. I guess looking for some evening fun, excitement and presumably supplemental income.


I am not clear whether the "drinks and dancing" girls are among the previous girls you mentioned (Lya, Maria etc), but that puts a bit of a different perspective on things. A woman who is prioritizing drinks and dancing and not mentioning money does appear to be simply a civilian looking to be entertained on a nice night out (I am assuming at this point that you are reasonably presentable young chap and can hold a fairly decent conversation).

Frankly, if after you have pushed the issue as far as you have without being rude, and no money has been mentioned, then you must be entitled to assume it's a freebie. If she later asks for money, you can pay up, but with ill grace and some annoyance, and she doesn't get a second date.

As regards payment for semi-pros (ie not those openly describing themselves as BO) on Tinder, well how long is a piece of string? Smoothy and I have our differences on this, but I figure if you arrange a short time date, in the afternoon, at a place not far from where she lives, you can get it for around 600 k to 700 k. She isn't exactly overwhelmed with options at that time, she can reach your place by ojek and by maghrib she's free with cash in hand to either go home to mama or stay out and hook another date, at a somewhat higher rate. I certainly would advise not paying more than 800 k for a dating site hook-up, unless we are talking runway model looks and frankly even then why bother? But get it cleared up in advance.

Just my opinions, others will surely disagree (I have to be careful, people are getting a bit sensitive about blokes expressing their opinions around here).

[Smoothy]

I think it's some kind of religious holiday this weekend in Indonesia. Does anyone know if that will cause the fun places to be closed down this weekend?

[Banana Boi]

Yes, that is true. You cannot see the girls first. But you can see them first at Tematik Spa.What about Orchardz, B Fashion, FM1, Peach Blossom, Griya Sehat, etc. Can I see the girls first?

[Offshore Swell]

What about Orchardz, B Fashion, FM1, Peach Blossom, Griya Sehat, etc. Can I see the girls first?Orchardz-don't know.

B Fashion -don't know.

FM1 -Yes.

Peach Blossom-No.

Griya Sehat-No.

[SeaTraveler]

I am not clear whether the "drinks and dancing" girls are among the previous girls you mentioned (Lya, Maria etc), but that puts a bit of a different perspective on things. A woman who is prioritizing drinks and dancing and not mentioning money does appear to be simply a civilian looking to be entertained on a nice night out (I am assuming at this point that you are reasonably presentable young chap and can hold a fairly decent conversation).

Just my opinions, others will surely disagree (I have to be careful, people are getting a bit sensitive about blokes expressing their opinions around here).Very astute that you picked up on the change in modus operandi. Ha ha ha.

Yes, this is ANITA from Indo Cupid. We chatted a bit a few months back, then maybe a weekly "Hello," on WhatsApp just to stay in touch. I could never figure out her motives from gentle probing. Encouraged by your observations, I pushed a bit further about how we will spend our time together and she answered back, "after drink and dance we will spend time in room" (smiley face).

LIYA on the other hand says, "I am not intense doing sexs" which I think means "I am not interested in sex".

Yesterday I signed up for Tinder Gold as I will now be in and out of Indonesia within the 30 days for $30 plan.

Tinder is a whole new beast. I am already quickly learning that English is not spoken as much as on the dating sites. More on that as I explore.

I did get 1 match that says - "open BO number me +62* Gk ush basa bari 1,5". I assume the 1,5 meant 1. 5 juta and that this was a pro. What does the BO designation mean??

Lastly, WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO OUR OWN OPINION. At least in America. Everyone should simply respect that or at least agree-to-disagree and be courteous about it.

Hilo, Thanks for the sage advice.

11 days and counting!

SEA Traveler.

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Orchardz-don't know.
B Fashion -don't know.
FM1 -Yes.
Peach Blossom-No.
Griya Sehat-No.Hopefully helpful for BFashion http://therapistfashionspa.********.com.au/2017/07/nomor-2-anggi-foto-therapist-fashion-spa.html.

Regards.

NI.

[Banana Boi]

I think it's some kind of religious holiday this weekend in Indonesia. Does anyone know if that will cause the fun places to be closed down this weekend?I'm sure you already know this but everything is open. Not as crazy as last night for sure though.

[Goferring]

I did get 1 match that says - "open BO number me +62* Gk ush basa bari 1,5". I assume the 1,5 meant 1. 5 juta and that this was a pro. What does the BO designation mean??

SEA Traveler.It translates as "Open Booking, call me +62. No small talk, 1. 5 jt".

"Booking" or "BO" Is she is available to book for sex.

Similarly "no basa basi" indicates she wants to just discuss where and when with no polite Chats or texts needed.

Basically, she's just being honest and upfront that this is a purely commercial arrangement.

I'm not sure if you have seen it but there is a Pen Pals and Chat rooms page on the Philippines board that discusses a lot of MO's that would also be applicable to your situation and in Indonesia generally. It has some good debate on he benefits or planning ahead vs using yhe Apps once you arrive.

[Marlboro Red]

Hi,

I plan to be in Jakarta for the weekend the 20th to 22nd of April, so PM me if you want to meet-up.

I have not been to Jakarta for a very long time, and this is a once in a blue moon visit so I want to make the most of it (after RTTF). The plan is to stay in the Harris Vertu, and visit Malioboro and Malio for the day, and on Saturday evening visit CJ or BATS. I am also thinking of visiting Colosseum 1001 for the Friday night. I assume you can take out a lady for a LT there? Since I this is a short trip, I am looking for quality.

I also remember a very long time ago I went to a club / really dark bar, where a mamasan introduced me a few girls that I could talk to first to see if we got on. I remember taking the girl for the whole evening. Any suggestion on the best place to do the same?

Any feedback would be great.

[Ggekko2009]

Hi,

I plan to be in Jakarta for the weekend the 20th to 22nd of April, so PM me if you want to meet-up.

I have not been to Jakarta for a very long time, and this is a once in a blue moon visit so I want to make the most of it (after RTTF). The plan is to stay in the Harris Vertu, and visit Malioboro and Malio for the day, and on Saturday evening visit CJ or BATS. I am also thinking of visiting Colosseum 1001 for the Friday night. I assume you can take out a lady for a LT there? Since I this is a short trip, I am looking for quality.

I also remember a very long time ago I went to a club / really dark bar, where a mamasan introduced me a few girls that I could talk to first to see if we got on. I remember taking the girl for the whole evening. Any suggestion on the best place to do the same?

Any feedback would be great.Heads up that 1001 (I. E. KTV / Club not spa) can get very expensive to book the girl out for LT. They use voucher system there, so the lowest price for 1 voucher is 600 K, and the next tier level is 1 mil. So you pay 1 voucher to book the girl while in the club to accompany you and probably another 5 vouchers to book her out LT. Then they still expect a tip the next day, as they are required to pay off their mamasan. If you add them up, they are not cheap. However, I do like the quality of the girls there. At least they accept credit cards and to think about it, Jakarta is one of the very few places where you can actually use your CC for P4P.

[Koperen Klaas]

What good does that do when they all went home to their villages for Idul Fitri?One of my contacts has her family living in Jakarta, so she will be there. There are some others, too. Not all is hopeless.

[Questner]

CJ's may be moneywise a better option than a take out from let's say Malio. As for Tinder, I don't see any need to pay for it, as it is a spontaneous thing. You just have to 'relocate' your profile on FB to your travel location prior to signing into Tinder.

[Smoothy]

Orchardz-don't know.It's a no. Another one of those places where you pick a random number and hope she isn't a dog.

[Smoothy]

One of my contacts has her family living in Jakarta, so she will be there. There are some others, too. Not all is hopeless.If she is Christian, you are in luck. If she is Muslim, you are still likely out of luck. At least that's my experience.

[Smoothy]

CJ's may be moneywise a better option than a take out from let's say Malio.Especially these days. In the past, CJs and BATS girls used to stand firm at 2 million or sometimes even 2.5 million. It's quite the norm now for the girls to accept 1 million.

[Sam Sanuk]

Especially these days. In the past, CJs and BATS girls used to stand firm at 2 million or sometimes even 2.5 million. It's quite the norm now for the girls to accept 1 million.Is that ST or LT? Thanks.

[NewImage]

Especially these days. In the past, CJs and BATS girls used to stand firm at 2 million or sometimes even 2.5 million. It's quite the norm now for the girls to accept 1 million.I've been following the Jak forum for a while now and basically gleamed that girls at Bats & CJ were after anywhere from 1 mill to 2. 5. So now it is 1 mill. Please forgive me if I am a little confused. Could you elaborate a bit for us please. So the average would be?? Lower end is 1 mill I imagine? 2 mil is 146 US and I ain't paying that. I've been tossing up whether to go to PP or Jak and due to Blok M closing down and prices decided on PP.

In KL I can get 3 HR FL ST for around 90 US with hot looking Viet girls, sometimes a little less. Just need another location where things are a little bit cheaper as I travel for 3/4 wks and it soon adds up if you monger most nights.

Appreciate anyone's feedback / ideas.

[Banana Boi]

In KL I can get 3 HR FL ST for around 90 US with hot looking Viet girls, sometimes a little less. Just need another location where things are a little bit cheaper as I travel for 3/4 wks and it soon adds up if you monger most nights.Which KL bars are you finding hot Viet Girls for 90 Usd per night?

Cheapest place would be Phnom Penh at 50 to 70 usd per night but don't expect a top Cambodian girl to look as hot as a top Thai, indo, or viet girl.

Maybe Laos is cheaper? Never been.

[Smoothy]

don't expect a top Cambodian girl to look as hot as a top Thai, indo, or viet girl.
I don't know about that. The 2nd hottest Asian girl I have ever been with was a Cambodian girl. I was staying at the Intercontinental hotel in Phnom Penh. I forget the name of the bar, but there was a popular one just outside that hotel and to the right within easy walking distance. The girl wanted 10 dollars for the night and was absolutely stunning. This was around 2002, so it was quite a while ago (and the only time I ever visited Phnom Penh), but the girl was damn hot.

[Smoothy]

I've been following the Jak forum for a while now and basically gleamed that girls at Bats & CJ were after anywhere from 1 mill to 2. 5. So now it is 1 mill. Please forgive me if I am a little confused. Could you elaborate a bit for us please. So the average would be?? Lower end is 1 mill I imagine? 2 mil is 146 US and I ain't paying that. I've been tossing up whether to go to PP or Jak and due to Blok M closing down and prices decided on PP.

In KL I can get 3 HR FL ST for around 90 US with hot looking Viet girls, sometimes a little less. Just need another location where things are a little bit cheaper as I travel for 3/4 wks and it soon adds up if you monger most nights.

Appreciate anyone's feedback / ideas.There is no set price. You negotiate. Many guys are still paying 2 million to 2. 5 million. However, about 5 years ago, getting one of the hotter girls to take a million was close to impossible. Now, they still ask for 2 million but can be talked down if there are not other guys clamoring for their services. If you can get a hot viet girl for 90 in KL, you should stick with KL. There are some hot viet girls in Jakarta on occasion but for sure they will want 2 million for short time.

[Smoothy]

Is that ST or LT? Thanks.I never do LT so I have no idea how much the girls want for long time. I prefer they leave my place 5 minutes after I cum. Even if they ask to stay the night, I throw them out.

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Which KL bars are you finding hot Viet Girls for 90 Usd per night?
Cheapest place would be Phnom Penh at 50 to 70 usd per night but don't expect a top Cambodian girl to look as hot as a top Thai, indo, or viet girl.
Maybe Laos is cheaper? Never been.Had a 9 once but mainly 7 & 8's. I am pretty fussy but scrub up ok (even though I am well over 50) and seem to be able to get girls for 350 RM.

Have had 7's and 8's say money not important just want to be with you. Not trying to boast just saying how I find it.

NI.

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There is no set price. You negotiate. Many guys are still paying 2 million to 2. 5 million. However, about 5 years ago, getting one of the hotter girls to take a million was close to impossible. Now, they still ask for 2 million but can be talked down if there are not other guys clamoring for their services. If you can get a hot viet girl for 90 in KL, you should stick with KL. There are some hot viet girls in Jakarta on occasion but for sure they will want 2 million for short time.Appreciate reply. Just looking for somewhere else to go cheapish. Looked at Hat Yai, PP and surrounds, Batam & Jak. KL has been my base for my last 3 trips and going back in June. When I read of experiences and prices some mongers pay I often wonder why it is I get the price and service I get. I am caucasian (this makes you stand out in KL, Aussie, don't drink or smoke, I make sure hygiene is good but don't over dress. Have that casual look. When I talk to girls I am confident but respectful and try to play the "nice guy" role. Being over 50 I have had a few years working out what women want to hear and how to treat them. Not saying I am a playboy or Casanova but its amazing what can be accomplished when you focus on them and not so much at getting your dick in ASAP. Just sayin. Oh 350 is for ST which when negotiating for me MUST mean Min 2 hrs, MUST DFK, must 2 pops, BBBJ, and associated GF Exp. This is reinforced at least twice at club before hand. I also tell them no BS or no $. Am quite prepared to boot out.

Unlike Smoothy I like a kiss and cuddle after so everybody is different. Am quite prepared to tip too. My general offer is 300 base plus 50/100 tip for good performance. That's always starting point and many accept. If they negotiate too hard I walk. Not good sign.

I think top price I paid last time was 400.

Can't wait till June when I am trying Penang as well. As usual a lengthy report will follow.

[Goferring]

Appreciate reply. Just looking for somewhere else to go cheapish.Have you thought of the Philippines after Indo? Good connections to Jakarta and Bali and USD 20-40 LT in the Provinces rising to $60-80 in Metro Manila.

[Questner]

Especially these days. In the past, CJs and BATS girls used to stand firm at 2 million or sometimes even 2.5 million. It's quite the norm now for the girls to accept 1 million.My experience is limited. Last time I parted with 1. 2 M and 100 K for a taxi (would get her anywhere). She was not the cutest or the youngest but a nice person and left after 2 hours. That night girls the hot ones whom I chatted with started with $200 offer, then 2 M IDR. I think they can get it given the class of the hotel and its predominantly affluent Asian business clientele.

One of the hottest girls in Thailand that I had was from Buriram, a town closer to Cambodian border. She was Thai, but still looked more khmer to me.

[BabaLoda]

A lot of the girls look young and doable. My first impression from the website is; the place kind of reminds me of Nataree. The girl whose photo I have just attached to this post, for example, found right at the top of the instagram list looks cute, sweet, and naughty to me. Just my kind of girl. 555. Thanks for the link. I might just check this place out in my ongoing efforts to expand my Jakarta horizon.Review on 555 - I have tried her already. She seems ok and willing to please on the face of it, but the moment you drop your pants down (or in my case, when I did), she saw my johnson and said "its too big! And let's be honest, I am not a Nigerian to be endowed with one. I am a humble Asian, everyone knows we don't have big size down below! So all in all, I sent her back. My recommendation for the place would be as follows:

1. Yes FS is available, you would pay IDR 540,000 for 90 minutes, this would include one shot with the girl.

2. Have tried a few birds there. Few recos. Rebecca (massive tits, a little belly fat, but extremely eager to please), Ega (forget the number) amazing pussy, cute face, Puput (350) amazingly tall and beautiful, got her to squirt one day and it was absolutely spectacular.

Few issues. When I start my deed, I politely ask the ladies to take a bath with me. All parts (no exceptions) get cleaned thoroughly. Post 3 pm is not a good time to go, some of their mouths would tell you the menu of the lunch they had! I usually tend to go there in the morning. Birds are fresh as dew and high on energy.

Hope this helps fellow bretheren.

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Have you thought of the Philippines after Indo? Good connections to Jakarta and Bali and USD 20-40 LT in the Provinces rising to $60-80 in Metro Manila.Been to Sabang twice, Manila once, Subic Bay and Cebu recently. Exactly what do you mean by provinces? I thought Bali was a hole and mongering poor. Thanks.

[Goferring]

Been to Sabang twice, Manila once, Subic Bay and Cebu recently. Exactly what do you mean by provinces?It depends what your interested in. Like Indonesia, the Philippines is large and diverse.

Personally, I enjoy the beaches around Cebu island and the Visayas generally. Davao had some of the best looking women I have seen for a long time.

It would be best to search the Philippine forum and move the discussion there if you are looking for more info.

[XMen2099]

Is that true that dancers at Malio don't dance topless anymore?

[Shockman]

I visited Siem Reap last year and found that Khemer girls don't take no back seat to nobody! I was like a kid in a candy store with the line up that included some absolute stunners. A bit pricey at between USD 100 to 150 for ST but heck, all that "happy" pizza and shakes had clouded my judgement!


Which KL bars are you finding hot Viet Girls for 90 Usd per night?

Cheapest place would be Phnom Penh at 50 to 70 usd per night but don't expect a top Cambodian girl to look as hot as a top Thai, indo, or viet girl.

Maybe Laos is cheaper? Never been.

[Smoothy]

Is that true that dancers at Malio don't dance topless anymore?They don't dance topless anywhere anymore. And most places that did have dancers in the past don't have them at all anymore.

If you are coming to Jakarta to see dancers, you are going to be disappointed.

[Fast Eddie 48]

I've been following the Jak forum for a while now and basically gleamed that girls at Bats & CJ were after anywhere from 1 mill to 2. 5. So now it is 1 mill. Please forgive me if I am a little confused. Could you elaborate a bit for us please. So the average would be?? Lower end is 1 mill I imagine? 2 mil is 146 US and I ain't paying that. I've been tossing up whether to go to PP or Jak and due to Blok M closing down and prices decided on PP.

In KL I can get 3 HR FL ST for around 90 US with hot looking Viet girls, sometimes a little less. Just need another location where things are a little bit cheaper as I travel for 3/4 wks and it soon adds up if you monger most nights.

Appreciate anyone's feedback / ideas.To New Image.

There many options here in Jarkata you can get girl all over the city at different price level, you can get girl at club like classic and hotel travel as cheap as 350 k that is less than 30 usd, if you go to high end club or high end disco girl start at 1 mil for ST and 2. 5 mil for LT it depend on quality of the girl it also depend on time of the night and your skill to bargain, I still think it is much cheaper here than KL and a lot more options.

Fast Eddie 48.

[Smoothy]

you can get girl at club like classic and hotel travel as cheap as 350 k that is less than 30 usdYes, if you take them to a short time room inside the brothel for an hour, that is the price. If you take that same Classic or Travel girl outside to your hotel room, it's 2 million rupiah (provided you take her after 11pm, if you take her around 5pm until next morning it will cost you between 3 and a half to 4 million rupiah).

If you are happy having sex in a short time room on site and not taking the girl to your own room, then it's cheap. Otherwise, Jakarta is not cheap.

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Yes, if you take them to a short time room inside the brothel for an hour, that is the price. If you take that same Classic or Travel girl outside to your hotel room, it's 2 million rupiah (provided you take her after 11pm, if you take her around 5pm until next morning it will cost you between 3 and a half to 4 million rupiah).
If you are happy having sex in a short time room on site and not taking the girl to your own room, then it's cheap. Otherwise, Jakarta is not cheap.Appreciate Smoothy. Many mongers VMD but service like this is like Mcdonalds -yeah its cheap and its OK every once in a while but hardly constitutes as food.

[Eszpresszo]

If you are happy having sex in a short time room on site and not taking the girl to your own room, then it's cheap. Otherwise, Jakarta is not cheap.Not making a good case for Jakarta right now.

[Ggekko2009]

Yes, if you take them to a short time room inside the brothel for an hour, that is the price. If you take that same Classic or Travel girl outside to your hotel room, it's 2 million rupiah (provided you take her after 11pm, if you take her around 5pm until next morning it will cost you between 3 and a half to 4 million rupiah).

If you are happy having sex in a short time room on site and not taking the girl to your own room, then it's cheap. Otherwise, Jakarta is not cheap.Wow, based on this pricing model, it looks like the management of the company expects their girls to have anywhere between 8 to 10 sessions a day onsite. This is disturbing.

[Banana Boi]

I have seen many 'executive clubs' around. Are these bars where you can pick up girls or do them at the clubs?

[XMen2099]

They don't dance topless anywhere anymore. And most places that did have dancers in the past don't have them at all anymore.

If you are coming to Jakarta to see dancers, you are going to be disappointed.Thanks for the update, are they still serving girls (local and non local)?

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Not making a good case for Jakarta right now.So I'm looking for an 6, 7, 8 FL girl I can take back to my hotel for 2 hrs for GFE for around 1 Mill to 1.2 Mill. Based on your knowledge / experience is this doable?

Looked at staying at Novotel Jakarta Gajah Mada Hotel and trying the surrounding area. But have been told quality is poor around Lokasari Square and Jaylan Mangga Besar.

Doable?

[Member #4698]

So I'm looking for an 6,7,8 FL girl I can take back to my hotel for 2 hrs for GFE for around 1 Mill to 1. 2 Mill. Based on your knowledge / experience is this doable?
Many punters including myself have had a lot of fun picking up quality FL girls at CJ's & Bats for around your price range. LT in my experience is more. This is probably your best bet for what you are seeking, but you know, that if this is your 1st time in Jakarta. "When in Rome" applies. IE You won't know what you're missing unless you give it a try and check out Malio, Malioboro, The Pool at 1001 Hotel, Emporium Spa & King's Cross ie the BORDELLOS.

You know what I like. I like similar to what you like. When I am in BKK, Pattaya, MNL & Phnom, I like to pick up sexy, amorous, young spinners in Go Go's and bars and take them back to my hotel for party party. Modified Natty ST lasting 4 or 5 hours. Then I like to repeat with the good ones while still searching for more new ones until my trip is over.

But Jakarta is different. In Jakarta, I have found that the best selection of sexy, amorous, young Indo girls are in the bordellos and it is just tooo damn expensive to barfine them out of their venue. That is just the way it is here. However, I have also found that when you click with a bordello girl she will happily come visit you before or after work or on her day off. So, I make some adjustments when I visit Jakarta and the result is I have a really great time with some amazing young girls. I think you will like the girls in CJ's, but I also believe you will like a lot of the girls in Malioboro and King's Cross for example. Jakarta is a treasure trove of young, natural, pussy talent. Don't fight it. Enjoy it! You only live once.

[SeaTraveler]

Traveling next week to Jakarta from the USA.

In 2014 I worked on Java and owned a locally purchased phone.

I have a Samsung Galaxy S8 in the USA. I am told by Verizon that the phone is unlocked and can be used in Indonesia.

I have a friend buying me a local sim card for my phone.

I have done extensive research and planning for dates, but I am wondering if my phone will retain my WhatsApp contact info when I switch sim's?

If I lose everything, I will be partially shit out of luck.

Does anyone know?

Thanks, SEA Traveler.

[Eszpresszo]

Traveling next week to Jakarta from the USA.

In 2014 I worked on Java and owned a locally purchased phone.

I have a Samsung Galaxy S8 in the USA. I am told by Verizon that the phone is unlocked and can be used in Indonesia.

I have a friend buying me a local sim card for my phone.

I have done extensive research and planning for dates, but I am wondering if my phone will retain my WhatsApp contact info when I switch sim's?

If I lose everything, I will be partially shit out of luck.

Does anyone know?

Thanks, SEA Traveler.First off, you are using a Droid phone and you can let Google back up your contacts with the Google Contacts App. If you don't have Google Contacts, its free at Google Play. If you let Whatsapp to access your contacts, it will look for the backup. As a secondary measure, take then down on paper or save then on a digital document stored in Google Drive. But Google should be able to reinstall your contacts when you log back into your Google account, and even reinstall some of your messages.

One thing about docs in Google Drive is that you can actually download them onto your phone, if you find yourself in a situation with no WiFi and a poor data connection. That way you can have the doc loaded on the phone. I did that with the Bali X-Map so I could find the X-houses of Sanur by looking at my without being captive to any data connectivity.

I believe with Whatsapp, you might need to log back in with the phone number you used to set up your account with. I. E, use your home phone number. But all your contacts should be there. I used an XL Axiata card in Bali, and installed Whatsapp when a X-house girl wanted to hook up at my hotel later in the week. She entered her contact info in my regular phone contacts. When I installed Whatsapp installed, I had to log in again, but Whatsapp found her in my contacts. Whatsapp will also send you a text message with an access code to make sure its you but it you can also let it detect the access code automatically if you let it. If you don't see your contact immediately in Whatsapp, just search their name with the search feature. I just reinstalled Whatsapp just now (I'd removed it because I have no stateside contacts who use it, and most of my Asian contacts were of no consequence and some were just pestering me) as a experiment, and that's what happened. But, I recall once I got back in the states 3 weeks ago, and reinserted my domestic SIM card, I still had Whatsapp on my phone and still had the contacts and conversations of the three new contacts I added in Bali. So, I am thinking just swapping the SIM over should be all you need to do.

Alternately, you could set up a new Whatsapp account with your new Indonesian number, and let Whatsapp look for your contacts in Google (after you have logged back into Google) or install the Google Contact App, which will also be searched by Whatsapp for people with Whatsapp accounts. Its really easy. So, you shouldn't have anything to worry about really.

[Ggekko2009]

Traveling next week to Jakarta from the USA.

In 2014 I worked on Java and owned a locally purchased phone.

I have a Samsung Galaxy S8 in the USA. I am told by Verizon that the phone is unlocked and can be used in Indonesia.

I have a friend buying me a local sim card for my phone.

I have done extensive research and planning for dates, but I am wondering if my phone will retain my WhatsApp contact info when I switch sim's?

If I lose everything, I will be partially shit out of luck.

Does anyone know?

Thanks, SEA Traveler.You might want to do a bit more research about your phone compatibility, since Verizon runs on CDMA, while the majority of wireless in Jakarta is on GSM. LTE depending on the supported band might make it no longer an issue, but the last time I checked last year, LTE was still not widespread there. As far as whatsapp is concerned, you can use your existing account when switching sim card, no problem there.

[Eszpresszo]

You might want to do a bit more research about your phone compatibility, since Verizon runs on CDMA, while the majority of wireless in Jakarta is on GSM. LTE depending on the supported band might make it no longer an issue, but the last time I checked last year, LTE was still not widespread there. As far as whatsapp is concerned, you can use your existing account when switching sim card, no problem there.One odd quirk about the Verizon phones is the newer and nicer phones are hybrid GSM / CDMA phones, and will work on GSM networks when taken abroad. That includes the newer iPhones and newer Galaxy phones. But they use a proprietary CDMA network in the US. Its worth nothing that Verizon phones are not operative with other CDMA networks in the US, such as Sprint and the cheap Sprint resellers, and the old MetroPCS CDMA network.

I have also encountered Verizon branded phones on Ebay, that have been unlocked and can be used on GSM networks in the US. Otherwise, a regular locked Verizon or Sprint phone tends to be awfully cheap on the aftermarket due to their captivity.

[NewImage]

Many punters including myself have had a lot of fun picking up quality FL girls at CJ's & Bats for around your price range. LT in my experience is more. This is probably your best bet for what you are seeking, but you know, that if this is your 1st time in Jakarta. "When in Rome" applies. IE You won't know what you're missing unless you give it a try and check out Malio, Malioboro, The Pool at 1001 Hotel, Emporium Spa & King's Cross ie the BORDELLOS.

You know what I like. I like similar to what you like. When I am in BKK, Pattaya, MNL & Phnom, I like to pick up sexy, amorous, young spinners in Go Go's and bars and take them back to my hotel for party party. Modified Natty ST lasting 4 or 5 hours. Then I like to repeat with the good ones while still searching for more new ones until my trip is over.

But Jakarta is different. In Jakarta, I have found that the best selection of sexy, amorous, young Indo girls are in the bordellos and it is just tooo damn expensive to barfine them out of their venue. That is just the way it is here. However, I have also found that when you click with a bordello girl she will happily come visit you before or after work or on her day off. So, I make some adjustments when I visit Jakarta and the result is I have a really great time with some amazing young girls. I think you will like the girls in CJ's, but I also believe you will like a lot of the girls in Malioboro and King's Cross for example. Jakarta is a treasure trove of young, natural, pussy talent. Don't fight it. Enjoy it! You only live once.Tried to PM you but your box is full. Seems everybody is asking or thanking you.

[Hung Man 1808]

Thanks for the update, are they still serving girls (local and non local)?On a recent trip (post Anies getting stuck into Alexis) I was eagerly awaiting my visit to the club floor of FM1 to select from the mamasan who provides the best girls there. Only to be greeted by no assistants, no music, no girls, and just the mamasan sitting there with the other forlorn mamasans. Who then directed me down to level 2 to see the girls. Ok, though that would be fine. Only to find 5 women (not girls) rather than the 50+ regular selection. In short. It's not good!

Quick, someone get Anies a shipping container full of stuffed white envelopes before it's too late!

[SteelBaton]

I believe with WhatsApp, you might need to log back in with the phone number you used to set up your account with. I. E, use your home phone number. But all your contacts should be there. I use WhatsApp all over Asia and swap sim cards in and out. Putting a new SIM card in will have NO ability on you accessing your contacts. It may ask if you want to update your Whatsapp number to the SIM number, I. E. Change to the Indo number, but you don't have to do that. So NO you don't need to log back in with your home number if you are not reinstalling the app. Keep the app open before changing SIMs to be safe.

WhatsApp links back to your normal contacts list, at least for iOS it does so even if you loss your Whatsapp app it will rebuild the contacts from your normal contact list, unless you have specifically kept these unlinked.

One thing I have done is to change my Whatsapp number to a local SIM in a foreign country when I am in that place with a SIM. This way my home phone number is shielded and my foreign GF's cannot decide to ring my cell phone or have a direct link to my home life. This means of course that my US friends cannot locate my WhatsApp account with my US cell phone as before. So I have to get their WhatsApp number first and message them. Then we are connected.

I am sure you know that if you get a local girls number then you can search that number (with proper country code) and if she has WhatsApp she will pop-up often with a nice photo. I always get phone numbers and connect back via WhatsApp (or Viber depending on the country).

Also, I highly recommend BBM (Blackberry Messenger) which somewhat common in Indo and I use that a lot. It has great security login features, it can make messages available for only 25 or 60 seconds and then disappear, and you can retract your entire chat from the other person's phone. Its perfect for having those nasty chats and then making sure you have not left a trail that may come back to bite you. You create a PIN number and use this to connect with other users, which again protects your phone number privacy. It used to be very popular in Indo but Whatsapp is provided by the carriers as free data and BBM uses data (not much, same as Whatapp in the US). For this reason, some girls will not have it on their phones and you need to convince them to download it. Most will if they want to keep you in their circle for future business. It has all the features of WhatsApp and many more privacy options. I avoid Whatsapp when possible. Same deal with changing SIMs it continues to work. Also will work on a tablet. Download in the US or when you arrive in Indo.

Last suggestion, if you use the national carrier, Telkomel SIM Pati, then you can download their app (My Telekomel) and easily manage your top-ups and chose data packages while you are in Indo or even offshore. You have to be onshore to set up the first time. I like this because I can load a data package before I board my flight and the moment the plane lands, Bam! I'm connected and sending BBM messages to the girls and arranging my afternoon or evening. Data is very cheap (1GB or $0.73) and good 4 G and some LTE coverage. Much cheaper and faster than AT&T or the US carriers. Often fast than the free hotel wifi.

[Eszpresszo]

I use WhatsApp all over Asia and swap sim cards in and out. Putting a new SIM card in will have NO ability on you accessing your contacts. It may ask if you want to update your Whatsapp number to the SIM number, I. E. Change to the Indo number, but you don't have to do that. So NO you don't need to log back in with your home number if you are not reinstalling the app. Keep the app open before changing SIMs to be safe.

WhatsApp links back to your normal contacts list, at least for iOS it does so even if you loss your Whatsapp app it will rebuild the contacts from your normal contact list, unless you have specifically kept these unlinked.

One thing I have done is to change my Whatsapp number to a local SIM in a foreign country when I am in that place with a SIM. This way my home phone number is shielded and my foreign GF's cannot decide to ring my cell phone or have a direct link to my home life. This means of course that my US friends cannot locate my WhatsApp account with my US cell phone as before. So I have to get their WhatsApp number first and message them. Then we are connected.Very good and helpful post. I had a lot of Whatsapp contacts prior to my last trip. However, when I realized they were a waste of time, I just plain uninstalled Whatsapp, as I saw WeChat as being popular at least with the people I was actually contacting. So, I was reinstalling Whatsapp in Indonesia with my XL sim after I got a request to connect on Whatsapp, and went through the process all over again. I am glad to hear that you can move from SIM to SIM with Whatsapp intact on your phone with all your contacts in place.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Yes, if you take them to a short time room inside the brothel for an hour, that is the price. If you take that same Classic or Travel girl outside to your hotel room, it's 2 million rupiah (provided you take her after 11pm, if you take her around 5pm until next morning it will cost you between 3 and a half to 4 million rupiah).

If you are happy having sex in a short time room on site and not taking the girl to your own room, then it's cheap. Otherwise, Jakarta is not cheap.To Smoothy.

All of us like to have a hot model every night but my budget don't allow me to do that, I do like to go to the top club or to Delta spa once on every trip to spoil myself and I just want to tell New Image he don't need to spend 2 mil rp on girl every night.

Fast Eddie 48.

[Hilo77]

Arriving home last night I saw a news report about a club somewhere that has been shut down because of a drug overdose (not a cop this time, unusually), Exotic was its name, not somewhere I had heard of and I don't think it has cropped up here. The only reason I mention it is that the news video showing the exterior of the building showed a "Kimochi" spa next door, which was a bit of a coincidence as I had never heard of it either until it cropped up in recent weeks on this forum.

Anyone got any more detailed knowledge?

[Marlboro Red]

All,

I will be in town on the weekend so PM if you want to get a beer.

It will be my first time in Jakarta, and I am looking for a bit of advice. Should I go to CJ or BAT on the Friday or Saturday night? Thinking also of visiting the the Pool at 1001 Hotel and Malioboro but what is the best time? Could go to the pool first and CJ later I guess. Also might try 1001 the KTV, but my guess is that it is no fun on your own.

Also other than the FL at CJ & BATs are there any place that you could take out a nice lady or two? Will also visit Malioboro.

Thanks guys for all the help so far, and I will post a report when I get back.

[Banana Boi]

Also other than the FL at CJ & BATs are there any place that you could take out a nice lady or two? Will also visit MalioboroSorry I have not had time to write in detail but skip malioboro unless you're into girls well into their 30's. You're better off hitting classic or travel or if you're more interested in service head to kota Indah (grand LA, starmoon, mtr, sari ayu, royal) or Kelapa Gading (king cross, mtr2, sumo spa, D heaven). You can find many girls in their early 20's at those places, all for the same as or less than you would pay for a malioboro girl.

[Marlboro Red]

Sorry I have not had time to write in detail but skip malioboro unless you're into girls well into their 30's. You're better off hitting classic or travel or if you're more interested in service head to kota Indah (grand LA, starmoon, mtr, sari ayu, royal) or Kelapa Gading (king cross, mtr2, sumo spa, D heaven). You can find many girls in their early 20's at those places, all for the same as or less than you would pay for a malioboro girl.Thanks man. I am staying in the centre of town so I might go to Melaka Gading. What about the place mext to malioboro, malio (or something like that).

[Smoothy]

Sorry I have not had time to write in detail but skip malioboro unless you're into girls well into their 30's. You're better off hitting classic or travel or if you're more interested in service head to kota Indah (grand LA, starmoon, mtr, sari ayu, royal) or Kelapa Gading (king cross, mtr2, sumo spa, D heaven). You can find many girls in their early 20's at those places, all for the same as or less than you would pay for a malioboro girl.Dude, you think the girls at Malioboro are old and well into their 30's? Sorry, but that is flat out wrong. Makes me think you never went there. Most of the girls at Malioboro are just as young as the other places you mentioned. As a matter of fact, the last 2 girls I went with at Kota Indah were only around 20 years old, but had worked at Malioboro for over a year before working at Kota Indah. I have been with girls from King Cross, Hotel Classic, and all the rest who have started at Malioboro and now moved to those other places and were still young 20's. The last girl I was with at Malioboro was 19. There are some extremely young girls at Malioboro just like anywhere else. Hell, I took a King Cross girl to Bali once who had told me she was 20. But on her ID card it said she was 24. I asked her how old she really was and she told me she was 20 and had a fake ID made for when she started at Malioboro when she was younger because she wasn't old enough to work yet at that time. To say Malioboro only has old girls is laughable. The disadvantage to Malioboro is not that the girls are old. they are not. It's that the price is higher than the down market places. The advantage to Malioboro is I don't have to hang out in a crap dirty crowded smoke filled environment with low class locals. Kelapa Gading King Cross, Sumo and D Heaven are also good options similar to Malioboro. But MTR2 does not charge a cover so it's a step below in my opinion as far as environment simply because of the clientelle. I don't just care about where I can find the cheapest girls possible, I also care about the environment.

[Banana Boi]

I wish what you were saying was correct. Maybe your visits to malioboro over the past 2 weeks were very different. I even stayed at Harris Vertu so I could walk to malio hotel. Maybe I just happened to choose 2 lousy weekend nights at malioboro. You have been there many more times than I have so you would know better. Each time I have been to malioboro it has been a morgue. About 50 girls sitting on their ass and maybe 5 customers.

Malio club does have younger girls than malioboro but nothing special over the past 2 weeks. You've seen who I like at starmoon, LA, and royal. I haven't seen that quality in malioboro or malio club. There was 1 dancer in malio club 2 months ago. Like I said, maybe I chose 2 wrong weekend nights to visit over the past 2 weeks. Maybe it's better on weekdays?

I don't know MarlboroRed but I can take a guess that he isn't too interested in buying 20 shooters costing 1. 3 million for a BJ.

If not reported yet, entry to malio club is 150k now. Pretty sure it was 100k a couple months ago.

[Marlboro Red]

Hi,

I first want to thank everyone for the information that you shared. On Friday, I arrived late so I just went to CJ. It there was a nice crowed, and with a group of nice ladies for all taste. YMMV, and I found it a bit too loud for my liking.

On Saturday, I visited hotel 1001 "The Pool". The place either had a KTV (and there were a few girls there) and the pool area, which I decided to visit. The place is really nice, with a somewhat dark (but not too dark) lounge area where you can chill ad have a beer or two. All the girls sit on the other side of the lounge, so you are not hassled.

When you are ready, call the mamasan and based on your requirements, she get you the line up. The rate is 1. 5 M for a local and 3 M for imports. I saw both and the quality of the girls are good and they are all welled dressed. The idea is that you get to spend 1 hour with the girl in the lounge (it is nice if you buy her a drink) to chit chat, and 1 hour in the room. If you are there with friends, you can take a private booth (by purchasing one of their bottles. Which is not really that expensive if you divided it by 3 or 4) to get the party started before heading to the room.

I did not see any "show"or anything, but then again, I was there early and left around 20:00.

After everything is finished, you walk out and clear you bill, either by cash or credit card. The only thing I did not like was that the cost was broken up all over the place, but it was about right.

Top notch place and will really, really visit again.

[Offshore Swell]

Arriving home last night I saw a news report about a club somewhere that has been shut down because of a drug overdose (not a cop this time, unusually), Exotic was its name, not somewhere I had heard of and I don't think it has cropped up here. The only reason I mention it is that the news video showing the exterior of the building showed a "Kimochi" spa next door, which was a bit of a coincidence as I had never heard of it either until it cropped up in recent weeks on this forum.

Anyone got any more detailed knowledge?Exotic was on Jl Mangga Besar Raya Down at the Jl Gunung Sahari end. It was a club out of the same mould as Mille's Golden Crown Etc. I miss those clubs. The thing that made me laugh the most at Mille's was the cross section of Indonesians you would see going in and out of the private rooms, if you sat around and watched for a while. You would see these respectable looking couples and groups, silver haired old girls and suited husbands, straight up the stairs and into the room. A bit like the Arabs, once that door closes it was game on and they were there to have fun.

[Koperen Klaas]

<SNIP>

Just my opinions, others will surely disagree (I have to be careful, people are getting a bit sensitive about blokes expressing their opinions around here).Just add the more obnoxious ones to your ignore list. I have a relatively brief list (5, I believe) and it save a lot of useless reading.

Regards,

Ko.

[BabaLoda]

So. Last time I had requested for a view it got missed completely by everyone making another feeble attempt yet again. If anyone has tried Go-Jek massage-at-home? How has been the experience? Is there a possibility of / for more?

Look forward to hearing some views.

[Golfinho]

So, I was reinstalling Whatsapp in Indonesia with my XL sim after I got a request to connect on Whatsapp, and went through the process all over again. I am glad to hear that you can move from SIM to SIM with Whatsapp.Aren't they making dual SIM phones anymore?

[CoaxK]

Can anyone please advise where a good soapy massage can be found these days?

[Hioctane]

Hi all,

I will be visiting Jakarta tomorrow. I have been reading the Jakarta100 bars page and the number of places to visit seems to be overwhelming! Has anyone compiled a list by location with hours, prices, etc? I would like to visit all the spots in an area without having to run all over town!

TIA.

[Shockman]

Very useful FR covering both CJ and 1001 for my first visit. I had resolved to visit 1001 after checking out a YouTube video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAn340OsSss and this FR only reinforces my conviction.


Hi,

I first want to thank everyone for the information that you shared. On Friday, I arrived late so I just went to CJ. It there was a nice crowed, and with a group of nice ladies for all taste. YMMV, and I found it a bit too loud for my liking.

On Saturday, I visited hotel 1001 "The Pool". The place either had a KTV (and there were a few girls there) and the pool area, which I decided to visit. The place is really nice, with a somewhat dark (but not too dark) lounge area where you can chill ad have a beer or two. All the girls sit on the other side of the lounge, so you are not hassled.

When you are ready, call the mamasan and based on your requirements, she get you the line up. The rate is 1. 5 M for a local and 3 M for imports..

[Dog7979]

So. Last time I had requested for a view it got missed completely by everyone making another feeble attempt yet again. If anyone has tried Go-Jek massage-at-home? How has been the experience? Is there a possibility of / for more?

Look forward to hearing some views.They are not happy massages. Maybe you can get it, but its not the format from my two experiences.

[Banana Boi]

How is Jakarta over Ramadan? Is it dead for the entire 30 days? I believe it's from may 15 to June 14 this year.

[ClitLover2012]

Jakarta friends, please let me know which are the best bars or clubs to pickup Working Girls from? I must admit I have not RTFF, but any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Smoothy]

Jakarta friends, please let me know which are the best bars or clubs to pickup Working Girls from? I must admit I have not RTFF, but any help would be greatly appreciated.I am guessing you are Indian. As such, I recommend De Leila or Tiga Kuda. You can google them for details on where they are.

[ClitLover2012]

Thanks Smoothy!


I am guessing you are Indian. As such, I recommend De Leila or Tiga Kuda. You can google them for details on where they are.

[Koperen Klaas]

Aren't they making dual SIM phones anymore?Of course they do, but many people are too lazy or too cheap to look into that. Just bought a really cheap smartphone (General Mobile GM6, first time I heard of the brand) with similar specs to Samsung and others for 200 Euro. Dual SIM, Android 8, 32 Gb internal memory, quad core processor. If you're not into status, that's the way to go.

[BabaLoda]

They are not happy massages. Maybe you can get it, but its not the format from my two experiences.Appreciate your help and reply As long as the masseuse is good looking, perhaps I can throw a few more IDRs as an incentive to 're-think'. In your two experiences, were the masseuse any good looking?

[Eszpresszo]

Of course they do, but many people are too lazy or too cheap to look into that. Just bought a really cheap smartphone (General Mobile GM6, first time I heard of the brand) with similar specs to Samsung and others for 200 Euro. Dual SIM, Android 8, 32 Gb internal memory, quad core processor. If you're not into status, that's the way to go.If you are suggesting that I am lazy or cheap, I actually own a dual-SIM phone and used it for awhile. But, I didn't like using it, and didn't think the convenience was worth it. If I have to buy a SIM upon arrival and then set up the phone anyways, the benefits are limited. If I am flying back and forth between two countries it would be an enormously convenient. But, I have no idea when I will be back to Indonesia (next stop Colombia), and having a SIM card for XL Axiata installed next to my US sim, really doesn't make sense at this point.

[Ggekko2009]

This is probably a silly question. Installed Tinder for the first time using a free account. It searched for girls within the 20 miles radius in and around Jakarta, and I put a few liked swipes. In fact, almost all the girls look respectable, not sure how this whole thing works, and what's next.

[KilledSoul]

Dude, you think the girls at Malioboro are old and well into their 30's? Sorry, but that is flat out wrong. Makes me think you never went there. Most of the girls at Malioboro are just as young as the other places you mentioned.Can confirm with everything Smoothy said. Last time I went, there were hardly any girls who were over 30. I went to the club and section where there is a live band and it was fantastic. Maybe somebody can get this impression if one goes to CIS chicks section. But I doubt.

[Smoothy]

Can confirm with everything Smoothy said. Last time I went, there were hardly any girls who were over 30. I went to the club and section where there is a live band and it was fantastic. Maybe somebody can get this impression if one goes to CIS chicks section. But I doubt.I am agreeing with you. I doubt there are any girls over 30 in there. If there are, it's a small number. I have been with over 100 girls there and never taken a girl over 25 years old. Most are 19 to 22.

[Banana Boi]

Can confirm with everything Smoothy said. Last time I went, there were hardly any girls who were over 30. I went to the club and section where there is a live band and it was fantastic. Maybe somebody can get this impression if one goes to CIS chicks section. But I doubt.My comments about the age was referring to malioboro. Not positive that you went to malioboro, rather to the live band bar and possibly malio club? Can you confirm that you went to Malioboro and not malio club?

Hope you are correct. Will be back at malioboro again soon and will provide feedback.

[ItIsMe83]

This is probably a silly question. Installed Tinder for the first time using a free account. It searched for girls within the 20 miles radius in and around Jakarta, and I put a few liked swipes. In fact, almost all the girls look respectable, not sure how this whole thing works, and what's next.I highly recommend the gold option. You can see who liked you before you have to swipe and get many more options like hiding alot of private stuff.

It's super easy in Jakarta and you will get a gazillion likes. I arrived last Monday and installed it for the first time. Tuesday evening a girl I liked and matched visited me already and she is staying with me until I leave next Tuesday But you can also have many many (free) ONS. Jakarta girls are obsessed with foreigners. Not sure if it's the same for 'older' gentleman but as a younger person I doubt you ever have to go out to meet girls. And I'd say 70% of the one matching are awesome and fun girls. They are different then Filipinos but just as sweet and happy and fun. And way more interesting then the Thai (IMO). Jakarta itself is kinda. Mehh but with the right company (and amazing food) it's still a decent spot for a few days.

[Smoothy]

Can you confirm that you went to Malioboro and not malio club?The age of the girls at both of those places is young 20's on the average and if there are any at all over 30, I would be surprised.

[Ggekko2009]

I highly recommend the gold option. You can see who liked you before you have to swipe and get many more options like hiding alot of private stuff.

It's super easy in Jakarta and you will get a gazillion likes. I arrived last Monday and installed it for the first time. Tuesday evening a girl I liked and matched visited me already and she is staying with me until I leave next Tuesday But you can also have many many (free) ONS. Jakarta girls are obsessed with foreigners. Not sure if it's the same for 'older' gentleman but as a younger person I doubt you ever have to go out to meet girls. And I'd say 70% of the one matching are awesome and fun girls. They are different then Filipinos but just as sweet and happy and fun. And way more interesting then the Thai (IMO). Jakarta itself is kinda. Mehh but with the right company (and amazing food) it's still a decent spot for a few days.I think the observation should be written as Jakarta girls on Tinder are obsessed with Caucasians only. No wonder I have not much luck in response since I look East Asian. LOL. I did got one response but based on initial chat, red flags were thrown and highly likely a scam in the making. I simply said no. Anyway, I am going to just delete my account after this trip.

[Ggekko2009]

Reached CGK around midnight on Wednesday, technically Thursday morning by then, and did not even bother to attempt to visit CJ even though it was the ladies night. I was simply too tired for anything else.

Caught up with a few hours of sleep and later that day decided to see how this whole Tinder works. Fair to say, I am a newbie on this one. I learned later that I have to swipe profiles that I like and wait back for the girl to respond in kind before we can chat via the app. At least that is the way how I think it would work for free account. Anyway, most of the girls that I discovered are not really what I expect. There were photos of girls in hijab and it would be hilarious if they are up to what I hope to achieve. I did not get many response, but there was one time when I received immediate feedback, and she got straight to business by saying BO. I guess that's the keyword for P4 P. Unfortunately, a few things immediately raised my suspicion. First red flag, she mentioned that she can use WhatsApp, but mentioned that her phone camera is kaput. Second red flag, she told me that I don't have to pay her anything, only that I need to pay for the hotel room through an online travel agency which she would book on my behalf. I just said this is not how I play and that's the end of it.

Later that night, oscillating between Malioboro, Illegals or 1001, I ended up at 1001 spa. My last trip was in October and back then it was disappointing, as I broke my own rule of selecting a Vietnamese import and my interaction with her was lackluster.

After going though the front entrance, the receptionist would walk me to the lift and the third floor personally. Next the security guard on the third floor asked for my handphone, and placed these two oversized stickers to cover the front and back of the camera, and the receptionist further mentioned that there is a cover charge of 200 K. Okay, this is definitely something new. As I get seated on one of the high table, a mamasan walked up to me and asked for my preference. I mentioned I am not interested in imports and looking for someone local who can provide GFE. After further interactions, I concluded that she had no idea and told her that I am just going to sit and observe before making a decision. I don't really like the idea of the girls being herded and paraded in front of me. Instead, I prefer to observe from a reasonable distance and gauge which girls would likely provide me with the best service and interaction based on their facial expression and body language. Many of the girls there were young with almost all of them in their twenties.

The girls noticed that I was observing them, and many would look my way and smiled to get my attention. I settled for a girl with the most genuine smile who happened to be also quite chatty. She settled next to me and as the rooms were full, I spent the next 45 minutes or so chatting. I always find it that if the girls are comfortable around you and in fact like you, the services and the overall experience will undoubtedly be enhanced. This girl who goes by the stage name Christina was no exception. Case in point, she started off with standard CBJ and ended up with me CIM twice. She also confessed to me sheepishly that she might be a semi border lesbian, since she likes the threesome experience with another girl, but clarified that she likes girls to fondle and lick her breasts but not necessary her pussy.

A few information tidbits that I find troubling. Christina was new to the game and barely over a month under their employment. Already, she was indebted to the company as soon as she started work. Like all profit maximizing corporation with no moral compass, they would squeeze every last pennies or rupiah in this case on these girls. They would charge an exorbitant amount on the dresses they are required to wear. They require that these girls live in their dorm which is conveniently located behind 1001 building, and of course charge them for everything. They would charge them for the hair stylist and makeup work that they have to have daily before work. They would charge them for the mandatory regular doctor inspections. The girls cannot leave the dorm while working there except during their off days. Their workday is a 12-hour shift and they have a daily target of hitting four vouchers. A voucher is an hour session and cost 1. 1 million each. I would ask how often does she meet her target, and she mentioned hardly ever. In fact, that day I was her first client and it was already nighttime. The spa girls would earn only a third of the voucher value which is something like 370 K and will only be disbursed to the after the month is over. No wonder these girls have to depend heavily on tips provided by their clients.

[Hilo77]

There were photos of girls in hijab and it would be hilarious if they are up to what I hope to achieve. It's only May and already I have clocked up three civilians on Tinder this year who wear jilbabs, two were married.

They were up for everything I hoped to achieve, and a lot that they wanted to achieve too.

No cash transactions were involved.

[Ggekko2009]

It's only May and already I have clocked up three civilians on Tinder this year who wear jilbabs, two were married.

They were up for everything I hoped to achieve, and a lot that they wanted to achieve too.

No cash transactions were involved.Wow, I stand corrected then.

[Smoothy]

Jakarta girls on Tinder are obsessed with Caucasians only.For sure Indonesian girls on tinder are obsessed with caucasians. However, I'd be surprised if they were only matching caucasians.

[Ggekko2009]

For sure Indonesian girls on tinder are obsessed with caucasians. However, I'd be surprised if they were only matching caucasians.I think the system does match me blindly I guess given that my interest profile is pretty much a blank slate literally. Their algorithms can only do so much with limited parameters. It is just that I just never hear back from any initiated chat.

By the way, is there any places where I can bring a girl to chill out (cover band etc) within 2 miles radius of Plaza Indonesia on Tuesday night besides CJ? Clubs like Immigrant is unfortunately closed from Sunday to Tuesday.

[Koperen Klaas]

I think the system does match me blindly I guess given that my interest profile is pretty much a blank slate literally. Their algorithms can only do so much with limited parameters. It is just that I just never hear back from any initiated chat.

By the way, is there any places where I can bring a girl to chill out (cover band etc) within 2 miles radius of Plaza Indonesia on Tuesday night besides CJ? Clubs like Immigrant is unfortunately closed from Sunday to Tuesday.B. A. T. S. In Shangri La springs to mind.

[Frankie555]

Recently visited KC after a lengthy absence and was disappointed with the set up.

Seemed to be a reduced volume of girls and they are no longer seated where they are easily visible for selection.

Instead they are uniformed (which appeared designed not to reveal) and seated within the room which is also not well illuminated.

Result, not easy to view before selection unless request lineups via Mami / Papi.

Miss the old setup which made relaxing with a drink so much more enjoyable.

Read lots recently about 1001. Is it now considered to be the closest thing to former Alexis? Does it have the best stock of Viet's!?

Appreciate any info and will report on forays to be made later this week.

F.

[Ggekko2009]

Recently visited KC after a lengthy absence and was disappointed with the set up.

Seemed to be a reduced volume of girls and they are no longer seated where they are easily visible for selection.

Instead they are uniformed (which appeared designed not to reveal) and seated within the room which is also not well illuminated.

Result, not easy to view before selection unless request lineups via Mami / Papi.

Miss the old setup which made relaxing with a drink so much more enjoyable.

Read lots recently about 1001. Is it now considered to be the closest thing to former Alexis? Does it have the best stock of Viet's!?

Appreciate any info and will report on forays to be made later this week.

F.I only saw a few Viets at 1001 (same company as the now defunct Alexis) when I was there last week, but more girls from CIS this time. There were many pretty local ones which I prefer anyway.

[Ggekko2009]

Day2: I reached out via WhatsApp to a freelancer from CJ that I knew from my last trip to escort me that evening. Turned out that she was back in her kampung at Cirebon, a good four hours drive from Jakarta. She referred a few of her friends instead.

I WhatsApped two of them from the list based on the photos. The first one was not available and the second one already had a previous engagement with her regular, but was willing to do a short time with me until 9 PM. I told her that I needed a longer engagement and she being the opportunistic type in turn referred a few of her friends to me. We started off with Bahasa but then slowly ventured off into English. I was surprised that her written English was pretty good considering everything. Turned out that she had a bule boyfriend who is supporting her.

She sent me different photos of her friends and set the expectation of a referral fee. We settled on a price and finders fee for her. I was interested in one of the girls in her list, but turned out that girl also happened to be unavailable that day, while the ones that were available I was not interested. Sensing that I was about to give up, she suggested that we meet up over dinner, and if the girl she brings along does not work out, I will just cover their taxi cost. I agreed since it might not be a bad idea for me to see them in person since I do not trust all these touched up photos. We met up at MO bar with these girls being unfashionably late the Jakarta way.

My new "mamisan" looked much prettier in person than in her photos. Her friend also looked better in person, but unfortunately we just did not click. During the whole time I enjoyed the mamisan more than her friend and I was pulled more and more towards her during interactions. While we were there, the mamisan had also been juggling her whatsapp and had to step out twice to handle phone calls. Later on, she mentioned that she had been trying to field off her jealous bule boyfriend with lies and excuses as to where she was.

That night was a no-go as the mamisan profusely apologized on why she can't be my escort tonight. I told her it was not a problem and mentioned that she would be my go-to person for what future needs. I even told her that if things did not work out with her appointment that night, she can even meet up with me later. After settling the bill and giving them the taxi money as promised, I headed out to meet up with my friends in karaoke.

KTV is not my type of fun but it was for my local friends. We opened a few bottles of tequila that night, and since they were there with either their wives or girlfriends, they booked a KTV girl to accompany me. In case anyone is interested in bringing KTV girl for a night out, I wouldn’t recommend it. First, they would play hard to get and asked for super high amount. Next, they would use a fallback excuse that company policy does not allow them to leave with the clients out of Karaoke directly blah blah blah. In this case, the KTV girl was asking for 5 million and was not willing to budge on price. Already half drunk and with the time approaching 1 AM, I told my friends that I just need to head out to CJs to bring a girl back to my hotel from there instead.

My friend dropped me off at CJ and told he would wait for me in the parking lot and drive me back to my hotel once I hooked up with a girl there. By the way, during our drive there, that earlier KTV girl finally texted me and was willing to reduce her price to 2. 5 million, but however would need to be paid upfront first. This goes against my rule and I told her not to waste my time anymore.

CJ was still crowded and packed with many beautiful girls that Friday night even at 2 AM. Good thing it closes at 4 AM on Fridays. I bumped into a girl with a very sweet smile and we chatted and quickly clicked. However, I told her that I need to make my walk around the place before I can settle for anyone. Did my round, and even though there were several pretty ones that caught my attention, I still ended with the first girl. I texted my friend that I plan to stay at CJ a bit longer and told him that I would leave with the girl later with taxi instead. The girl has a great sense of humor and I enjoyed her company a lot. We left over an hour later for my hotel and had a great ML night with her into early morning.

[Lion55]

Anyone know whether the clubs and brothels will be open on Tuesday and Wednesday night next week? I will be in Jakarta for a few days after a long hiatus and as (bad?) luck would have it my visit coincides with the beginning of Ramadan.

[Smoothy]

Anyone know whether the clubs and brothels will be open on Tuesday and Wednesday night next week? I will be in Jakarta for a few days after a long hiatus and as (bad?) luck would have it my visit coincides with the beginning of Ramadan.Monday and Tuesday absolutely nothing will be open. There is a chance for Wednesday that places will be open, but not sure given the current political situation and crack downs. I would try Malioboro, Hotel Classic, Hotel Travel. They usually stay open more than anywhere else. Thursday, everything will likely be open.

[Lion55]

Monday and Tuesday absolutely nothing will be open. There is a chance for Wednesday that places will be open, but not sure given the current political situation and crack downs. I would try Malioboro, Hotel Classic, Hotel Travel. They usually stay open more than anywhere else. Thursday, everything will likely be open.Thanks for the reply. I'll try Hotel Classic on Wednesday night.

[Ggekko2009]

Monday and Tuesday absolutely nothing will be open. There is a chance for Wednesday that places will be open, but not sure given the current political situation and crack downs. I would try Malioboro, Hotel Classic, Hotel Travel. They usually stay open more than anywhere else. Thursday, everything will likely be open.I just checked with my girl at 1001, Monday thru Thursday next week is confirmed closed at least for 1001. You can try call other establishments to check their opening hours next week. You can get their numbers via Google map app.

[Smoothy]

Thanks for the reply. I'll try Hotel Classic on Wednesday night.Good luck. Ggekko's post is probably more accurate though. Each year varies a bit, but given the current climate, I think expecting things to be shut down Monday thru Thursday is a realistic expectation.

Personally, I wouldn't waste my time even trying the places. I would go on Tinder or wechat and look for girls there.

[SeaTraveler]

I spent 8 days in Jakarta and 10 days in the province.

I could not get into ISG until today due to a forgotten password.

I'll have a detailed FR in a few days.

Visited CJs, BATS, Blok M, and Eastern Promise.

Report soon.

SeaTraveler.

[Eszpresszo]

Good luck. Ggekko's post is probably more accurate though. Each year varies a bit, but given the current climate, I think expecting things to be shut down Monday thru Thursday is a realistic expectation.

Personally, I wouldn't waste my time even trying the places. I would go on Tinder or wechat and look for girls there.Bad timing, as the Rupiah has crested 14,000 per USD. Hopefully the downward trend will continue past the religious nonsense for the sake of the more savvy mongers out there.

[Lion55]

Good luck. Ggekko's post is probably more accurate though. Each year varies a bit, but given the current climate, I think expecting things to be shut down Monday thru Thursday is a realistic expectation.

Personally, I wouldn't waste my time even trying the places. I would go on Tinder or wechat and look for girls there.Are there likely to be girls at CJs or BATs Monday thru Thursday nights?

[Irish Mongrel]

Are there likely to be girls at CJs or BATs Monday thru Thursday nights?You're likely to find that CJ's is closed this coming Monday & Tuesday if it follows my previous experiences of being in town during Ramadan. As things are getting tighter it may be closed longer. BATS always tended to be open, but only soft background music and all the lights are on. A few girls will drift in, but not too many. Instead of walk of shame it's pick-up of shame in full glare.

Easiest thing to do is call the hotel and see if the clubs are open, or send them an e-mail. Don't be shy they do answer.

Best option as has been mentioned previously is WeChat / Tinder. They are all up for it in Tinder, including those dressed up in Hijab. Just dumped a Hijab wearing lady who was getting a little too clingy. In her early 40's, an ex-model who had basically decided she wanted to find her religion!!!! First time I met her she was all party dress, wine and pork, even though she had some pictures of herself in a Hijab on Tinder. She took a guilt trip and went full time Hijab wearing, no pork, but still a little wine. Wasn't a hint of a walk of shame taking her into hotels. And as for the rest, well she was a bit of a porn star, loved toys and loved to send photos when I wasn't around. As with all of them she is rather tarnished and had her psycho moments - I don;t deal with drama to well (why should I) so when she kept talking about commitment it was bye, bye to her. So for Jakarta I take it plain and simple, anybody on Tinder is there for one reason, and if they play offended, just dump them and block them :-)

[Finder99]

Had to stay in Kelapa Gading for work for a week. Stayed at a friends house. I could not come late, and I worked till late in the evening, so would go straight to my friends house. They would call me a traditional massage service lady from the many available on the internet for a massage at home in the room. This was done 4 times in different days. All of them who came were very traditionally dressed fully covered up. All of them were above 30 years old and not good looking. With two I got hand jobs at the end of the massage and with the third one got full service. The 4 rth one refused to give any additional service. Its not too difficult to get extras even from the traditional massage providers.

One of the days I managed to get out early and visited My Place, which is a relax place for Men, with sauna, hot and cold baths etc. They also have a massage service, which is what I went for. The massage reception was at the first floor. There they offered me a package of 2 hours massage which included shower wash, body scrub and a facial. I took the package with a private room with shower and tub. They charged me 1. 000.000. For the package which is about 70 USD. The girl gave me a nice massage, bath, facial etc. Including a hand job. She said they are not allowed to have full service. She did offer to take off her blouse for additional 500.000 which I found to be ridiculous, so I declined politely. If you have extra time and want to relax without full service, this is a nice place for that.

[Smoothy]

Are there likely to be girls at CJs or BATs Monday thru Thursday nights?No. The places will likely be closed.

[Offshore Swell]

OS spent the day touring to the East of Tanjung Priok, Jakarta's huge sprawling port complex. It's a low lying coastal area of miles of industry, containers, roads and rubbish. Sitting in a line of container trucks as far as the eye can see are oil stained trucking yards, earthmovers, salvage yards and containers, Here you savour the defining smells of Jakarta. High sulphur diesel exhaust,durians, drains and garbage. For some reason OS has a fascination with this kind of thing, most distressingly the sheer volume of garbage that Indonesians create and this incredible collective abrogation of responsibility for it. Go to any tourist destination in Indonesia and it's like the locals will be having a contest to see who can throw away the most plastic at it. Go to an industrial, or poor community around Jakarta and the waste problem seems overwhelming.

So with nostrils already on edge. OS tracked in and onto the Jalan Cakung drain, a road through some of the city's poorest that varies between 2 meter wide asphalt and corrugated dirt. The road follows the drain which runs from the sea through what must be the garbage / recycling heartland of Jakarta, bonfires to melt down electric motors, a mound of shoe soles bigger than a house to ships lifeboats that some enterprising soul has sailed down the drain and dragged up the bank and then behind that. A backdrop of one of Jakarta's waste mountains and then a huge cemetery in the middle. Jutting out into the cemetery is Rawa Malang, so on one side of the fence are families tending the plots of loved ones and on the other, a collection of alleys with cafe's blaring ear splitting music and girls of varying beauty where you may retire to their room with them and drink and everything else, the days when the wind is blowing towards the garbage mountain are slightly more romantic than when it blows towards you.

OS just had to try this, A tiny 2 M x 1. 5 M ply lined room, dirty mattress on the floor and a bottle of warm beer. Just enough room for OS to take his trousers off. Unfortunately the wind was blowing straight off the mountain but some camphor satchets on the wall fixed that but no aircon. Ita, a pretty 20 yo from Sulawesi was only too happy to take off her clothes when OS asked and shaped right up for the Camera when OS asked take her photo. She was a nice girl somehow installed in some horrendous surroundings. She previously had been working at a bar a couple of kilometers to the North near one of the transport terminals, am not sure whether being moved further down the drain was a promotion or demotion but this is as grim as you will see in Indonesia. For something to look forward to she was going home to Sulawesi for the second part of the fasting month.

Anyway, it was quite nice talking and playing with Ita and indeed, all of the people I spoke to in Rawa Malang but OS really had to be going, so after putting his clothes back on it was down the drain road he went past bags of this and that, dodging goats, cats and chickens untill he found an exit to a concrete road and the relative civilisation of a long row of container trucks.

If it was any other country, Ita would be just that, a pretty 20 yo a nice girl with a nice heart with a whole pile of nice boys wanting to know her. Unfortunately here, she may never get that opportunity for it's a long road to get up and out of a place like Rawa Malang. OS hopes she might make it although she didn't seem to mind it too much.

[Smoothy]

Ita, a pretty 20 yo from Sulawesi was only too happy to take off her clothes when OS asked and shaped right up for the Camera when OS asked take her photo. She was a nice girl somehow installed in some horrendous surroundings. She previously had been working at a bar a couple of kilometers to the North near one of the transport terminals, am not sure whether being moved further down the drain was a promotion or demotion but this is as grim as you will see in Indonesia.Haha. Very adventurous! How much did she charge you for her services?

[Offshore Swell]

Haha. Very adventurous! How much did she charge you for her services?They said 250 K but then the beer that they pushed really hard for was another 50. I really couldn't be bothered arguing although I reckon most rubbish collectors would be struggling to raise anything close to that.

[Smoothy]

They said 250 K but then the beer that they pushed really hard for was another 50. I really couldn't be bothered arguing although I reckon most rubbish collectors would be struggling to raise anything close to that.Awesome post. Best I've seen in a while. Thanks for sharing.

[Hihi Ster]

If it was any other country, Ita would be just that, a pretty 20 yo a nice girl with a nice heart with a whole pile of nice boys wanting to know her. Unfortunately here, she may never get that opportunity for it's a long road to get up and out of a place like Rawa Malang. OS hopes she might make it although she didn't seem to mind it too much.Nice post! Amazing what goes on in places most of us wouldn't even dare to venture.

Did you do your usual creampie?

[Offshore Swell]

Nice post! Amazing what goes on in places most of us wouldn't even dare to venture.

Did you do your usual creampie?Managed to keep the big brain in control so no! Not at this locale, OS just wasn't that brave.

[John Auro]

Great report Offshore Sweell.

You also may like to read an old ISG report from March 8. 2001 by Alex:

I used to live in Pondok Indah, one of the up market housing estates in South Jakarta. If you travel along the main road towards the Simatupang highway, and turn left there, you will find a few cheap working girls (and TV's) at the first bus stop. Some are young (early twenties), others in their forties. There's a little park-like area behind it, where they take you for a fuck or a blowjob (most of them will let you come in their mouths, some even swallow). This is open-air-fucking at its best. As usual, prices are around USD 2-3 for a short time. You can also take them to a 6-hour fuck hotel, a little bit further on the opposite side of the road.

Another excellent place to find cheap street girls (and transsexuals) is the area in front of the main railway station in the east of the town (you'll pass and make a stop-over here if you take the train to Bandung) and the railway tracks leading eastward. A ten-minute walk eastward from the railway station brings you to an area with lots of parked train wagons. Here you find girls all day but especially at night there are tens of them. They are usually young (late teens, early twenties, but some oldies) and the cheapest in town. Some you can fuck for not more than the price of a bottle of coke. You can fuck them in or in between the empty train wagons.

It's quite a thrill.

Walk around a bit and you see people fucking all over the place. The girls will come to you and do just about anything you want. I once fucked a mute girl in her early twenties in her ass there. They are shameless and let you fuck them in full view of others. Another cheap thrill, but of course you can hide in the trains if you are a less perverted type.

There are many more of these types of places all around Jakarta, but this should give you enough pleasure to last for your trip there. Feel free to email me for tips. Alex .

(Review # 3262).

[Smoothy]

I just checked with my girl at 1001, Monday thru Thursday next week is confirmed closed at least for 1001. You can try call other establishments to check their opening hours next week. You can get their numbers via Google map app.As it turns out, places are still open tonight and don't close until tomorrow. You can never trust the Ramadan schedule until it actually arrives. I think they set an approximate day, then gauge the moon or something as it approaches to pick the day to start.

[CFront]

I've got an overnight in Jakarta. No time to do ground work, but did come across the Malio Hotel. Yes. It'll be more expensive, but the ease of having everything available in one spot is key in such a short window.

Anyone know if this place is still alive & kicking? I heard the Alexis Hotel shutdown, and I'm not able to contact or find a way to book a room at the Malio.

Appreciate the insight from anyone on the ground more recently.

[Smoothy]

I've got an overnight in Jakarta. No time to do ground work, but did come across the Malio Hotel. Yes. It'll be more expensive, but the ease of having everything available in one spot is key in such a short window.

Anyone know if this place is still alive & kicking? I heard the Alexis Hotel shutdown, and I'm not able to contact or find a way to book a room at the Malio.

Appreciate the insight from anyone on the ground more recently.It's open right now, but will close tomorrow. If you hurry, you can make it.

[ShinShin]

Anyway, it was quite nice talking and playing with Ita and indeed, all of the people I spoke to in Rawa Malang but OS really had to be going, so after putting his clothes back on it was down the drain road he went past bags of this and that, dodging goats, cats and chickens untill he found an exit to a concrete road and the relative civilisation of a long row of container trucks.

If it was any other country, Ita would be just that, a pretty 20 yo a nice girl with a nice heart with a whole pile of nice boys wanting to know her. Unfortunately here, she may never get that opportunity for it's a long road to get up and out of a place like Rawa Malang. OS hopes she might make it although she didn't seem to mind it too much.Very exciting report. Last trip, I learned that my favorite hooker zone in Jakarta Kalijodo has been torn down. One Uber driver told me there is a new Kalijodo reincarnate. I think he must have been talking about Rawa Malang, which I had never heard until recently. It seems like this Rawa Malang place also has some unpolished diamonds like Kalijodo which had plenty of them.

Is this Rawa Malang place kind of sprung up after the closure of Kalijodo, or it has been in existence for a long time? It sounds like this place is five times rougher than Kalijodo or Bandung Saritem. I will definitely check it out on my next trip into Jakarta. Sounds like a fun adventure.

[A158]

Very exciting report. Last trip, I learned that my favorite hooker zone in Jakarta Kalijodo has been torn down. One Uber driver told me there is a new Kalijodo reincarnate. I think he must have been talking about Rawa Malang, which I had never heard until recently. It seems like this Rawa Malang place also has some unpolished diamonds like Kalijodo which had plenty of them.

Is this Rawa Malang place kind of sprung up after the closure of Kalijodo, or it has been in existence for a long time? It sounds like this place is five times rougher than Kalijodo or Bandung Saritem. I will definitely check it out on my next trip into Jakarta. Sounds like a fun adventure.I also would like to know about this Rawa Malang. Unfortunately, my first trip to Jakarta is going to be during Ramadan, where all if not most of the spots are / will be closed. So I'm looking for areas which are not nightclubs, but where cheap fun can be head. Believe me, been to very rough areas before (does Newark ring a bell? If you can give a helping hand with some places like that but do not want to post, please PM.

Cheers.

A158.

[Smoothy]

I also would like to know about this Rawa Malang. I don't mean to be a wise ass, but I think you will find that there is almost no place in Jakarta that has not already been reported on this forum in the past. If you go to the "Search Thread" feature here at the top right of this thread, and type "malang" and click on Search, you will find this post in about five seconds.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2034245&highlight=malang#post2034245

[A158]

I don't mean to be a wise ass, but I think you will find that there is almost no place in Jakarta that has not already been reported on this forum in the past. If you go to the "Search Thread" feature here at the top right of this thread, and type "malang" and click on Search, you will find this post in about five seconds.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2034245&highlight=malang#post2034245I understand the search function. Thank you. I was more interested in how will the action be during Ramadan and the effects of it on these spots.

Thanks again.

Cheers.

A158.

[Offshore Swell]

Very exciting report. Last trip, I learned that my favorite hooker zone in Jakarta Kalijodo has been torn down. One Uber driver told me there is a new Kalijodo reincarnate. I think he must have been talking about Rawa Malang, which I had never heard until recently. It seems like this Rawa Malang place also has some unpolished diamonds like Kalijodo which had plenty of them.

Is this Rawa Malang place kind of sprung up after the closure of Kalijodo, or it has been in existence for a long time? It sounds like this place is five times rougher than Kalijodo or Bandung Saritem. I will definitely check it out on my next trip into Jakarta. Sounds like a fun adventure.My advice would be to go to Tanjung Priok, say to the bus terminal and get a motorcycle ojek to take you as the road in is barely what we would call a road, also English will not be widely spoken. It's actually not that far from Kelapa Gading but you need an ojek that knows his way around that part of town. You don't need to go far from Kelapa Gading before things go seriously downmarket.

[Smoothy]

I was more interested in how will the action be during Ramadan and the effects of it on these spots.Specifically for Ramadan? I believe your report will be the first Ramadan report on this forum (or likely any other) from that particular area.

I make sure to avoid Indonesia during Ramadan these days, so I won't be able to join you on your adventure, but I am looking forward to the report. These type of reports are much more interesting than the stale reports of guys going to Hotel Classic.

[MutantChicken]

My advice would be to go to Tanjung Priok, say to the bus terminal and get a motorcycle ojek to take you as the road in is barely what we would call a road, also English will not be widely spoken. It's actually not that far from Kelapa Gading but you need an ojek that knows his way around that part of town. You don't need to go far from Kelapa Gading before things go seriously downmarket.In the old days Kalikodo was 150 k your last report on rawa malang you mentioned the bule price of 400 k which is higher than even classic or travel, if this remains the case then seems not worth the inconvenience exploring rawa malang right?

[A158]

Specifically for Ramadan? I believe your report will be the first Ramadan report on this forum (or likely any other) from that particular area.

I make sure to avoid Indonesia during Ramadan these days, so I won't be able to join you on your adventure, but I am looking forward to the report. These type of reports are much more interesting than the stale reports of guys going to Hotel Classic.Adventure it is. I think it will be hard to get to the place as it is my first time in the country and not sure what to expect (but I get it. Garbage) , the biggest challenge will be the language barrier. Finding an ojek that know the way around. The girls, I'm sure there is plenty willing to play, the quality -Ah well will see.

Will see if OS will weigh on that with some thoughts. I read his reports and looks like he knows these places well.

Cheers.

A158.

[CFront]

It's open right now, but will close tomorrow. If you hurry, you can make it.I'm not sure I understand. It is closing tomorrow?

[Riverstar]

A regular friend for over ten years and she gets better every year.

[ShinShin]

In the old days Kalikodo was 150 k your last report on rawa malang you mentioned the bule price of 400 k which is higher than even classic or travel, if this remains the case then seems not worth the inconvenience exploring rawa malang right?Kalijodo price was 150 k to 200 k for many years, but some shops would always quote you 300 k to 400 k at first when they see foreigners. But the price easily go down to normal if you counter offer them the real price. I am sure this place has same pricing as old Kalijodo, because it is for locals. I think he did not counter quote the real price. The extra profit does not go to girl, it goes to the shop owner. So it is better to counter offer the standard price, and give tip directly to the girl.

[BaddHabbit]

A regular friend for over ten years and she gets better every year.Good lord, that is the most pronounced mound I have ever seen! Must look like a guy front on in jeans. Looks like she must be a real firecracker though. 10 years!? Bloody brilliant.

[Muzungufotsy]

Kalijodo price was 150 k to 200 k for many years, but some shops would always quote you 300 k to 400 k at first when they see foreigners. But the price easily go down to normal if you counter offer them the real price. I am sure this place has same pricing as old Kalijodo, because it is for locals. I think he did not counter quote the real price. The extra profit does not go to girl, it goes to the shop owner. So it is better to counter offer the standard price, and give tip directly to the girl.Kalijodo was never more than 150 k even at the end. I often paid 110 k. If you speak some Bahasa nobody will quote you 400 k or stupid price like that.

400 k for a local price is just ridiculous. Locals will never pay that. Foreigners who pay that price in a local brothel don't know anything about Jakarta.

[MutantChicken]

Kalijodo was never more than 150 k even at the end. I often paid 110 k. If you speak some Bahasa nobody will quote you 400 k or stupid price like that.

400 k for a local price is just ridiculous. Locals will never pay that. Foreigners who pay that price in a local brothel don't know anything about Jakarta.I second this I started going to Kalijodo the last 2 yrs before it was torn down and admittedly whilst I don't speak Bahasa I do get away looking like a local and I used go there by Angkot and I would spend 5-6 hours exploring and taking 3-4 girls each day over a 7 day period, but I never had to bargain I always paid 150 k and my choices were for slim type girls so maybe if I went for older girls I would be quoted less, but I was never quoted 400 k in the 30-40 interactions.

[Sam Sanuk]

Good lord, that is the most pronounced mound I have ever seen! Must look like a guy front on in jeans. Looks like she must be a real firecracker though. 10 years!? Bloody brilliant.Botox? LOL.

[Questner]

Since Kalijodo is done - Kaput - there is no point to say how much anyone paid in the past, but guide the readers where and at which price point the similar experience can be received today. Also, in perspective, you have to put a price on taxi and most of all on time in traffic. How much is your time worth?

[Smoothy]

The going rate for free lancers from Tambora was 150 to 200 k before it burned down.

[Offshore Swell]

I second this I started going to Kalijodo the last 2 yrs before it was torn down and admittedly whilst I don't speak Bahasa I do get away looking like a local and I used go there by Angkot and I would spend 5-6 hours exploring and taking 3-4 girls each day over a 7 day period, but I never had to bargain I always paid 150 k and my choices were for slim type girls so maybe if I went for older girls I would be quoted less, but I was never quoted 400 k in the 30-40 interactions.Really happy that you saved 50 K with each girl, imagine the things you could do with the savings. Lash out and buy an apple, get yourself a new toothbrush, save up and get an enema. The mind boggles.

Of course cost matters but nobody paid 400 K here, it was an opening shot as an answer to a question and the debate is academic at best because none of you will ever go there.

OS prefers to treat these girls as people and it's always about the experience. Even when the girl is a poor choice it's polite to tip. I think some of you have no idea how hard life is for some of these girls and the system of debt bondage that gets them there. Next time take a moment to ask the girl about how she came to be there and your 50 K savings may not seem that important anymore.

[Ggekko2009]

OS prefers to treat these girls as people and it's always about the experience. Even when the girl is a poor choice it's polite to tip. I think some of you have no idea how hard life is for some of these girls and the system of debt bondage that gets them there. Next time take a moment to ask the girl about how she came to be there and your 50 K savings may not seem that important anymore.Hear! Hear!

[A158]

OS prefers to treat these girls as people and it's always about the experience. Even when the girl is a poor choice it's polite to tip. I think some of you have no idea how hard life is for some of these girls and the system of debt bondage that gets them there. Next time take a moment to ask the girl about how she came to be there and your 50 K savings may not seem that important anymore.You are so right. How can $4 USD make a difference for the guy.

[A158]

Getting ready to make the trip. Be there Tuesday. Any update on the mongering situation in the past couple of days besides everything is closed during Ramadan?

Cheers.

A158.

[Koperen Klaas]

<SNIP>

OS prefers to treat these girls as people and it's always about the experience. Even when the girl is a poor choice it's polite to tip. I think some of you have no idea how hard life is for some of these girls and the system of debt bondage that gets them there. Next time take a moment to ask the girl about how she came to be there and your 50 K savings may not seem that important anymore.I couldn't agree more, sir.

[Rak22]

Visited Jakarta for the first time this weekend. Thanks to a lot of excellent information on this forum to help me prepare for the trip. I was a bit worried given how close my trip was to start of Ramadan, but it worked out quite well. I used an Indonesian dating site, Badoo and WeChat. Got lots of hits, many more than I had time for. I usually met the women at a nearby mall and made sure there was chemistry before going back to my hotel. The young women were very happy to meet an older man and didn't hesitate to spend a lot of time together. Here are the places I visited:

CJs: on Saturday night between 12-2 am and got a nice take-out. The music was good, lots of good talent. Danced with a few and picked a 20 something girl late in the night for excellent ST service. She works in a mall during the week.

Basque. Early weekend evening (9 pm onwards). Very crowded, with a good mix of locals and expats. It is not clear who is available because most were in groups, but I got many inviting looks. I went with a prearranged date, had a good dinner followed by dancing and back to hotel.

Henshin. Bar top of Westin hotel, the tallest building in Jakarta, a big hit with girls. Excellent Japanese-Peruvian food and nice outdoor bar. I met a pre-arranged date for dinner and drinks followed by a trip to hotel.

I didn't have time to go to Malio, Travel, Classic. Mainly because I stayed in Mega Kuningam and there was plenty to do locally. It was easy to ask girls to take a taxi to this area. Also visited a couple of nearby malls with for batik and local handicrafts. Ideally, one should visit Jakarta for a day and arrange the right company to visit Bali.

[Gern]

Getting ready to make the trip. Be there Tuesday. Any update on the mongering situation in the past couple of days besides everything is closed during Ramadan?

A158.The usual locations with hotel facilities and in-house spas are open. Can personally confirm that Hotel Akoya in Mangga Besar is open for service. I am pretty sure that FM Boutique Hotel in Tomang is also open.

[Porker]

Really happy that you saved 50 K with each girl, imagine the things you could do with the savings. Lash out and buy an apple, get yourself a new toothbrush, save up and get an enema. The mind boggles.

Of course cost matters but nobody paid 400 K here, it was an opening shot as an answer to a question and the debate is academic at best because none of you will ever go there.

OS prefers to treat these girls as people and it's always about the experience. Even when the girl is a poor choice it's polite to tip. I think some of you have no idea how hard life is for some of these girls and the system of debt bondage that gets them there. Next time take a moment to ask the girl about how she came to be there and your 50 K savings may not seem that important anymore.Tip for service, sure, makes sense. Tip for 3rd world conditions? Tell them you will severely enrich them if they will reveal their "manager" details.

[Blanquiceleste]

Visited Jakarta for the first time this weekend. Thanks to a lot of excellent information on this forum to help me prepare for the trip. I was a bit worried given how close my trip was to start of Ramadan, but it worked out quite well. I used an Indonesian dating site, Badoo and WeChat. Got lots of hits, many more than I had time for. I usually met the women at a nearby mall and made sure there was chemistry before going back to my hotel. The young women were very happy to meet an older man and didn't hesitate to spend a lot of time together. Here are the places I visited:

CJs: on Saturday night between 12-2 am and got a nice take-out. The music was good, lots of good talent. Danced with a few and picked a 20 something girl late in the night for excellent ST service. She works in a mall during the week.

Basque. Early weekend evening (9 pm onwards). Very crowded, with a good mix of locals and expats. It is not clear who is available because most were in groups, but I got many inviting looks. I went with a prearranged date, had a good dinner followed by dancing and back to hotel.

Henshin. Bar top of Westin hotel, the tallest building in Jakarta, a big hit with girls. Excellent Japanese-Peruvian food and nice outdoor bar. I met a pre-arranged date for dinner and drinks followed by a trip to hotel.

I didn't have time to go to Malio, Travel, Classic. Mainly because I stayed in Mega Kuningam and there was plenty to do locally. It was easy to ask girls to take a taxi to this area. Also visited a couple of nearby malls with for batik and local handicrafts. Ideally, one should visit Jakarta for a day and arrange the right company to visit Bali.Good report. Thank you.

Care to share the name of the Indonesian dating site?

[Rak22]

Good report. Thank you.

Care to share the name of the Indonesian dating site?I used Indo cupid. There is a lot of work involved in screening before hard, but it makes things easier once you reach.

[Muzungufotsy]

Tip for service, sure, makes sense. Tip for 3rd world conditions? Tell them you will severely enrich them if they will reveal their "manager" details.No it doesn't make sense. Specially in a local place because locals don't tip. In addition as a foreigner we always overpay anyway so tipping on top of that make us even more stupid. When you go to a local place and you are the only bule of the day tipping makes no difference because this place caters to locals who won't try to tell you how bad the condition of the girl is to make you feel guilty. Mongering is bad anyway so people who talk on this board as priests can get lost.

In addition I would never talk of a local brothel here considering that the governor wants to shut down everything related to P4P. Kalijodo like K11 got shut down because too much publicity from internet so people should think less of their ego and more of the community here. Guys like OS who wants to make us believe he is so brave because he went to RM by himself and none of us has ever done it makes me laugh. Many people do it but they won't talk about it openly on a public board because they are smart and they don't want these places to shut down.

[Smoothy]

Visited Jakarta for the first time this weekend. Thanks to a lot of excellent information on this forum to help me prepare for the trip. I was a bit worried given how close my trip was to start of Ramadan, but it worked out quite well. I used an Indonesian dating site, Badoo and WeChat. Got lots of hits, many more than I had time for. I usually met the women at a nearby mall and made sure there was chemistry before going back to my hotel. The young women were very happy to meet an older man and didn't hesitate to spend a lot of time together. Here are the places I visited:

CJs: on Saturday night between 12-2 am and got a nice take-out. The music was good, lots of good talent. Danced with a few and picked a 20 something girl late in the night for excellent ST service. She works in a mall during the week.

Basque. Early weekend evening (9 pm onwards). Very crowded, with a good mix of locals and expats. It is not clear who is available because most were in groups, but I got many inviting looks. I went with a prearranged date, had a good dinner followed by dancing and back to hotel.

Henshin. Bar top of Westin hotel, the tallest building in Jakarta, a big hit with girls. Excellent Japanese-Peruvian food and nice outdoor bar. I met a pre-arranged date for dinner and drinks followed by a trip to hotel.

I didn't have time to go to Malio, Travel, Classic. Mainly because I stayed in Mega Kuningam and there was plenty to do locally. It was easy to ask girls to take a taxi to this area. Also visited a couple of nearby malls with for batik and local handicrafts. Ideally, one should visit Jakarta for a day and arrange the right company to visit Bali.Good report. That's much more in line with a week I would spend in Jakarta.

I like it when they have the electric violin player at Henshin. That chick is pretty good.

[BabaLoda]

Dear all,

Cheat alert. This profile is on instagram. Cleverly the profile is updated almost daily with new pic / video of the girl thereby giving a feel as if its legit.

Phone number: 858-XXXXXX83.

Would ask for deposit into account first and then block your number or pretend that the money hasn't been transferred into the account. Please be aware and avoid.

Funnily the number of cheat profiles on Twitter and Instagram have increased multifold since start of Ramadhan, perhaps because the usual water holes have dried up.

Anyways, wanted to bring this to everyones' attention. Hope this helps.

Thanks.

MB.

[Blacka0]

Hi bro,

Is it this one? http://hotsta.net/serliyanti211 thanks for warning us bro's we won't want to spoil our money on fake account's ahahah if you want real girls just go to classic or hotel travel its cheap and fun.

BTW if you want to try a real famous twitter girl try this one she's real I fucked her several times https://twitter.com/rhena_queen.

She don't even give you her number if your not serieus you can message her true twitter she's really hot nice tits and tight pussy bro's.

Just google under Rhena Queen you can see a lot.


Dear all,

Cheat alert. This profile is on instagram. Cleverly the profile is updated almost daily with new pic / video of the girl thereby giving a feel as if its legit.

Phone number: 858-XXXXXX83.

Would ask for deposit into account first and then block your number or pretend that the money hasn't been transferred into the account. Please be aware and avoid.

Funnily the number of cheat profiles on Twitter and Instagram have increased multifold since start of Ramadhan, perhaps because the usual water holes have dried up.

Anyways, wanted to bring this to everyones' attention. Hope this helps.

Thanks.

MB.

[SeaTraveler]

After 4 long months of planning, I arrived in Jakarta around 21:30. Long lines at Customs & Immigration.

Had a girl / friend, Maria, pick me up at Soekarno and drop me at Shangri-La.

Showered and ready to go around midnight.

Of course with jet lag from the USA, I was wide awake and ready to go.

Took a quick look thru BATS, then decided to head to CJ'S.

After about 30 minutes of perusing the talent at CJ'S, I opted to take ITA to my room at Shangri-La.

We did the deed, and I sent her on her way as the night was still young.

I went downstairs to BATS to take another look. As I was about to give up on the available talent, I sat down at the front of the bar facing the band.

Eventually I looked at the girl next to me. LO & Behold it was Tiffany. I had met Tiffany on several occasions in 2014 at BATS. I had always wanted to fuck her, but she was either taken or asking too much money. I decided this was a dream-come-true so I asked and she said 2 million. I said it's late and countered with 1. 5, which she accepted.

It was fun, but nothing special.

It was around 3:00 am. I was wide awake and wanting to explore more. The lobby had about 6 girls milling around as BATS was closing. I talked to each but they all wanted 1. 5, which I thot was high since I was their last option that night.

Instead, I decided to see what Blok M was like these days. It was my favorite late night stop in 2014 as I often stayed right on Jl. Falatehan.

So I grabbed a cab and headed to the Blok.

Went straight in to My Bar.

It was crowded and seemed about the same as in 2014 (without Top Gun of course).

Here, while drinking a beer, I met Lia and a friend. I offered 1. 5 for both and they accepted.

Lots of sucking and licking. Eventually got my 3rd shot of the night with the friends hand job and Lia providing a surprise prostate massage in fine form.

These 2 were the most fun time I had the entire trip.

In fact, I saw Lia 3 times during my 8 days in Jakarta. She knew how to push my buttons like no one else.

Eventually, I took an Ambien and drifted off to sleep.

Next Report. Friday Night. Hotel Mulia & CJ'S.

[ScorpioAngel]

The usual locations with hotel facilities and in-house spas are open. Can personally confirm that Hotel Akoya in Mangga Besar is open for service. I am pretty sure that FM Boutique Hotel in Tomang is also open.Yes, Akoya's open.

FM1 only the spa's open. Normal massage 300 k, extras nego with the girl. ST 550 k which I think is expensive. The club was closed, reopen after Ramadhan.

Next, I went Travel & Classic, was told the 3 P option no longer available. One mamasan from Classic said it might be back after Ramadhan, but the girl I took told me that it's almost 1 year that the 3 P option was scraped. Can anybody confirm this?

[BabaLoda]

Hi bro,

Is it this one? http://hotsta.net/serliyanti211 thanks for warning us bro's we won't want to spoil our money on fake account's ahahah if you want real girls just go to classic or hotel travel its cheap and fun.

BTW if you want to try a real famous twitter girl try this one she's real I fucked her several times https://twitter.com/rhena_queen.

She don't even give you her number if your not serieus you can message her true twitter she's really hot nice tits and tight pussy bro's.

Just google under Rhena Queen you can see a lot.Thanks for the lead my friend, have written to her. Would share the FR once she responds.

[Sam Sanuk]

Looking forward to your next essay.

[SeaTraveler]

My Friend Maria was the one who picked me up at the airport on Wed and dropped me off at Shangri-La.

I met her on Indonesian Cupid a few months before the trip.

There was some debate here that she was a non-pro, but still looking for paid sex.

My gut told me she was not and that was solidified by her refusal to come to my room on Wed after dropping me off from the airport. However, she let me know she was coming to meet me Thursday afternoon and would be staying overnight. I had a room at Oakwood Suites in South Jakarta not far from Blok M. I highly recommend this hotel as it was built in 2016 and is new and nice.

What we all here overlooked when judging Maria, was the true, genuine GFE. Which is what I got Thursday night.

Her husband had died 3 years ago and she claimed not to have had sex since.

Based on her attack on me; her 9 orgasms to my 1 - I have to believe her story. Wouldn't take any money, not even a gift.

But now I had a girlfriend. Which has it pluses and minuses.

I wish I could share a picture, but it seems inappropriate in this instance.

Next Report. Friday at Hotel Mulia. CJ's - 3 girls (separately).

[FriendlyPlanet]

people should think less of their ego and more of the community here. Guys like OS who wants to make us believe he is so brave because he went to RM by himself and none of us has ever done it makes me laugh. Many people do it but they won't talk about it openly on a public board because they are smart and they don't want these places to shut down.LOL, coming from someone who is all ego and no community, that is rich. Offshore is a leader in the community, who posts interesting content, great photos and quality commentary. You just whine about people paying too much.

Places like Kalijodo and K11 got shut down because they were front page news and swarming with NGOs and do-gooders. I really doubt that the Indonesian government needs a foreign message board to realize that there are prostitutes plying their trade at Rawa Mewang (oops, sorry, RM- then they won't figure it out! If you want to do your bit to help reduce the profile of this message board, then stop reading and posting, so there is less traffic- just go away.

As for the original topic, tip if you want to. Bargain hard with the house, and make sure you pay local price. But as for giving money to the girl? Sure- you have a lot of money, she has very little.

[Blanquiceleste]

LOL, coming from someone who is all ego and no community, that is rich. Offshore is a leader in the community, who posts interesting content, great photos and quality commentary. You just whine about people paying too much.That, and abuse random people through PM and then block them fearing a backlash. Real tough guy.


Places like Kalijodo and K11 got shut down because they were front page news and swarming with NGOs and do-gooders. I really doubt that the Indonesian government needs a foreign message board to realize that there are prostitutes plying their trade at Rawa Mewang (oops, sorry, RM- then they won't figure it out! Well said. The number of mongers active on this forum represent but an insignificant speck of the number of people partaking in P4 P worldwide. Yet, people have exaggerated notion of self-worth that makes them believe that their posts on this forum actually helps LE track down and shut iconic places like Kalijodo. Priceless!


As for the original topic, tip if you want to. Bargain hard with the house, and make sure you pay local price. But as for giving money to the girl? Sure- you have a lot of money, she has very little.Well said again. Be generous to the girl. What goes around comes around. Don't be an asshole.

[SeaTraveler]

DAY 3.

Moved to Hotel Mulia for Friday. My "GF" Maria, who spent the night Thursday, drove and dropped me off at Mulia.

Had dinner with an Indonesia Cupid date. Anita - 40 something, who had suggested "drinks and dancing" followed by fun in the room. This was my non-pro attempt.

However, I wanted to be settled in to CJ'S around 9:30 to get a good seat by the door. I like watching the girls come in and stroll by.

As always, she was late to the hotel for dinner so we ate in The Cafe and had a drink. When I suggested we adjourn to the room around 8:30 pm, she wasn't ready for fun yet, so we parted ways.

Oh well. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Probably my fault for cutting the evening short, but I didn't want to miss out on a Friday night at CJ'S.

Got a great seat near the entrance & sat for couple of hours girl-watching. Finally decided I needed to make a choice soon (because I always want 2nd's or 3rd's later).

There was one girl who had captured my attention, tall and exotic looking, but she was chatting with others and my every attempt to pull her over to talk failed.

I moved on to a tall, cute sort of school-girl / college freshman look. I don't remember her name.

BBBJ was ok. DATY was great with her gentle moaning. CFS meant I couldn't feel anything. Tried to finish with BBBJ, but it wasn't good enough to get me to the finish line. Still I had fun and there was more to come anyway.

Returned to CJ'S to the delight of the door staff. Ha ha ha.

By now the tall, exotic girl was in the side bar with friends. I made my move and soon we were in my room.

She remembered me from 2014 and that triggered a vague memory from BATS and it wasn't a good one.

No pics allowed this time. As soon as we were naked, she rubbed my cock and said, "condom now".

I jumped up and said "WTF" condom and no BBBJ. Forget it. I ended the session; We got dressed and she headed out.

I took a short break and had a drink in the room.

Note to self - *Alcohol is ridiculously expensive in Indonesia.

Returned to CJ'S to the delight of the door staff. AGAIN. Ha ha ha.

Ordered a drink and walked around. I'm guessing it was maybe 1:00 am.

I seem to find girls that are huddling in the back corner by the bathroom area and the raised bar. I found Ita here on Wednesday night.

This time I found Zahra. I'm so glad I didn't waste time and energy on #2.

Zahra was a STELLAR FIND.

Perfect small size, perfect body, cute as hell in my book and boundless energy.

My experience is impossible to describe. She's like a gymnast; bouncing and riding my cock, while saying, "I like to fucking you". Cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, split cowgirl. Just unbelievable.

Best of all, she was fine with video so I taped the whole event. I never met a girl in 50+ years who could move like this girl. My cock was her personal pogo stick.

She eventually tired me out and finished me off.

What a great way to end a Friday night.

If you see her, take her. You won't regret it.

Doesn't speak much English, but she is moving constantly, so who cares.

I made up my mind to see her again before leaving Indonesia for good. Which I did. With great daytime HD video (But I will save those pics for that story).

Next up. Saturday night with Fritz's Rizky. A strange tale.

SEA Traveler.

[WazWallaby]

Met Erna playing pool in a bar on Java back in the early noughties. She was in her late 20's. First night was pretty ordinary starfish but to save time and hassle of going to bars the next night, I made a date with her. Shopping, dinner and bed followed. She turned on the full porn star experience then. Any position, deep anal and full-on, eyes shut, mouth open take the load on face and down the throat. Unforgettable. Over the next couple years I saw her often, serial 2-3 night stands, take her out whenever I was in town. She lived in an incredibly run-down tenement on the city fringes, with 3 other girls. I bedded all of them over time, but Erna was really the girl for me. She never let on that she knew I fucked any of the others. As these things go, you drift closer, you drift apart and I was in Indonesia less and less.

Later, I find she is in Timor, working in a restaurant she said. For sure not. A couple of years after that she contacts me out of the blue to tell me she is happy and living with an Italian café owner in Bali. OK, but struth, Bali is full of delicious young working girls, so will that last? Later again, somehow, I get a Whatsapp from her. She is in Bogor, back on Java. Living in a cheap boarding house, she has forsaken the life, become much more pious, wears the jilbab and tells me she has re-connected with her family, or at least a brother who talks to her. Takes in washing for a living. I sent her a few hundred bucks. Finally, a message – 2 years ago? - to tell me she is going to Saudi through a labour hire company to be a housemaid. Quick calculation then and I figured I had known her about 15 years, and spent maybe a couple month's worth of nights with her over the first 3 years. Spent a couple of grand on her too. All good, by the way.

Then last week a message from one of the original housemates who still had my number from a long ago naughty tropical isle fuck fest. "Erna mati. " Erna is dead. Shit. Flurry of texts, she hung herself in her bedroom at her employer's house in Dharan, Saudi. Aged 41, no hubby, partner nor children. I have been feeling shit for the last week.

[Offshore Swell]

Guys like OS who wants to make us believe he is so brave because he went to RM by himself and none of us has ever done it makes me laugh. Many people do it but they won't talk about it openly on a public board because they are smart and they don't want these places to shut down.It's all coming back to me now, this guy used to go by the name of Prison Break. Got really abusive by PM because I wouldn't share any contacts with him so I blocked him. Then he reinvented himself as Bobmoron69. His main claim to fame with his earlier posts as Prison Break was harrassing other members.

Can only guess he's a short guy, 4 ft 11" with a bad case of little man syndrome, maybe works as a janitor or something because he seems to want most of his sex for nearly nothing which would suggest no money. Fortunately OS has lots of it and is quite happy to splash it around.

Certainly hasn't ever added much value to this forum or any others he trolls around.

[Muzungufotsy]

Amazing what kind of BS people will say just because they don't want to recognize they overpay and other mongers can be right. Just pathetic.

[Muzungufotsy]

Fortunately OS has lots of it and is quite happy to splash it around.
That's why you go to the poorest places of Jakarta. For sure it makes perfect sense to everybody. Good for your ego I guess.

[BabaLoda]

It's all coming back to me now, this guy used to go by the name of Prison Break. Got really abusive by PM because I wouldn't share any contacts with him so I blocked him. Then he reinvented himself as Bobmoron69. His main claim to fame with his earlier posts as Prison Break was harrassing other members.

Can only guess he's a short guy, 4 ft 11" with a bad case of little man syndrome, maybe works as a janitor or something because he seems to want most of his sex for nearly nothing which would suggest no money. Fortunately OS has lots of it and is quite happy to splash it around.

Certainly hasn't ever added much value to this forum or any others he trolls around.Ha ha ha ha! Good one and people at work are wondering why I am in splits.

[Blanquiceleste]

Then last week a message from one of the original housemates who still had my number from a long ago naughty tropical isle fuck fest. "Erna mati. " Erna is dead. Shit. Flurry of texts, she hung herself in her bedroom at her employer's house in Dharan, Saudi. Aged 41, no hubby, partner nor children. I have been feeling shit for the last week.Godspeed. It is a tough life.

Given how employers in the Middle East treat their domestic helpers, I would not be surprised if this is foul play being hushed up.

[Blanquiceleste]

I used Indo cupid. There is a lot of work involved in screening before hard, but it makes things easier once you reach.Thank you mate! Good work.

[Wimble]

Condolences dude. I think there are a few of us who stay in touch with memorable repeat girls.


Met Erna playing pool in a bar on Java back in the early noughties. She was in her late 20's. First night was pretty ordinary starfish but to save time and hassle of going to bars the next night, I made a date with her. Shopping, dinner and bed followed. She turned on the full porn star experience then. Any position, deep anal and full-on, eyes shut, mouth open take the load on face and down the throat. Unforgettable. Over the next couple years I saw her often, serial 2-3 night stands, take her out whenever I was in town. She lived in an incredibly run-down tenement on the city fringes, with 3 other girls. I bedded all of them over time, but Erna was really the girl for me. She never let on that she knew I fucked any of the others. As these things go, you drift closer, you drift apart and I was in Indonesia less and less.

Later, I find she is in Timor, working in a restaurant she said..

[Member #4698]

Met Erna playing pool in a bar on Java back in the early noughties. She was in her late 20's. First night was pretty ordinary starfish but to save time and hassle of going to bars the next night, I made a date with her. Shopping, dinner and bed followed. She turned on the full porn star experience then. Any position, deep anal and full-on, eyes shut, mouth open take the load on face and down the throat. Unforgettable. Over the next couple years I saw her often, serial 2-3 night stands, take her out whenever I was in town. She lived in an incredibly run-down tenement on the city fringes, with 3 other girls. I bedded all of them over time, but Erna was really the girl for me. She never let on that she knew I fucked any of the others. As these things go, you drift closer, you drift apart and I was in Indonesia less and less.

Later, I find she is in Timor, working in a restaurant she said. For sure not. A couple of years after that she contacts me out of the blue to tell me she is happy and living with an Italian caf owner in Bali. OK, but struth, Bali is full of delicious young working girls, so will that last? Later again, somehow, I get a Whatsapp from her. She is in Bogor, back on Java. Living in a cheap boarding house, she has forsaken the life, become much more pious, wears the jilbab and tells me she has re-connected with her family, or at least a brother who talks to her. Takes in washing for a living. I sent her a few hundred bucks. Finally, a message 2 years ago? - to tell me she is going to Saudi through a labour hire company to be a housemaid. Quick calculation then and I figured I had known her about 15 years, and spent maybe a couple month's worth of nights with her over the first 3 years. Spent a couple of grand on her too. All good, by the way.

Then last week a message from one of the original housemates who still had my number from a long ago naughty tropical isle fuck fest. "Erna mati. " Erna is dead. Shit. Flurry of texts, she hung herself in her bedroom at her employer's house in Dharan, Saudi. Aged 41, no hubby, partner nor children. I have been feeling shit for the last week.A very sad story Waz. It should remind us all that our girls lead rough lives and for the most part we only see them in their glory days when things are pretty good and the money is flowing. But life goes on after all the bright lights have faded. A few actually escape their poverty. Most do not. That's why I always try to treat my girls good and with a little kindness especially while I am shagging them on a regular basis. They usually return the favor. But life is hard. No one gets out of here alive.

[KilledSoul]

I guess old habits die hard. Actually they never do.

So now BobMoron69 has sent me another abusive PM which I will choose to ignore. This goes back to the Phnom Penh thread where he whined about the money I paid to a chick. When I replied that it is my money and I choose what to do with it, he sent me a nasty abusive PM.

I am now curious to see how long this goes on. It is actually getting amusing now.I had received an aggressive PM in January after I gave report on a lousy service I received at Classic and the tip I paid. Forgot about the PM. After seeing this thread I checked who was it and lo and behold it was BobMoron69. Old habits never die.

[Offshore Swell]

I had received an aggressive PM in January after I gave report on a lousy service I received at Classic and the tip I paid. Forgot about the PM. After seeing this thread I checked who was it and lo and behold it was BobMoron69. Old habits never die.Maybe Danny DeVito is a secret ISG member?

[UsPete]

My condolences also Waz. When I worked in Tambora we had three hangings in the upstairs rooms over about a week. The club and atmosphere never really recovered.

Little bit of advice to fellow indo mongers. It's best not to use the word mati for humans you respect. It's fine for flowers, lamps and animals but never really used for people except possibly terrorists. I've certainly never seen it used in a text. There are other more respectful words like meninggal (to stop living), tewas (if in an accident) or the now obscure wafat (passed away).




Then last week a message from one of the original housemates who still had my number from a long ago naughty tropical isle fuck fest. "Erna mati. " Erna is dead. Shit. Flurry of texts, she hung herself in her bedroom at her employer's house in Dharan, Saudi. Aged 41, no hubby, partner nor children. I have been feeling shit for the last week.

[Koperen Klaas]

Amazing what kind of BS people will say just because they don't want to recognize they overpay and other mongers can be right. Just pathetic.This is obviously another alias for you, but you immediately give yourself away by your whining about the amount other people are willing to pay.

[Smoothy]

My condolences also Waz. When I worked in Tambora we had three hangings in the upstairs rooms over about a week. The club and atmosphere never really recovered.Rumor has it that the woman who ran the pool table at Tambora named Miriam was responsible for those hangings. She was the same woman who could could be found begging in Blok M a few years later saying "I kill you tomorrow" to any passers by who wouldn't give her money.

[WazWallaby]

My condolences also Waz. When I worked in Tambora we had three hangings in the upstairs rooms over about a week. The club and atmosphere never really recovered.

Little bit of advice to fellow indo mongers. It's best not to use the word mati for humans you respect. It's fine for flowers, lamps and animals but never really used for people except possibly terrorists. I've certainly never seen it used in a text. There are other more respectful words like meninggal (to stop living), tewas (if in an accident) or the now obscure wafat (passed away).Thanks Pete, and you are right. However, that was verbatim the text that I got from one of the girls. 'Meninggal dunia' 'has left this world'.

[Wimble]

What would be the correct word? In the foggy past, I think I heard the word but maybe because I am as thick as a brick and did not understand what the gal was trying to say to me.


There are other more respectful words like meninggal (to stop living), tewas (if in an accident) or the now obscure wafat (passed away).

[SmallBird]

LOL, coming from someone who is all ego and no community, that is rich. Offshore is a leader in the community, who posts interesting content, great photos and quality commentary. You just whine about people paying too much.

Places like Kalijodo and K11 got shut down because they were front page news and swarming with NGOs and do-gooders. I really doubt that the Indonesian government needs a foreign message board to realize that there are prostitutes plying their trade at Rawa Mewang (oops, sorry, RM- then they won't figure it out! If you want to do your bit to help reduce the profile of this message board, then stop reading and posting, so there is less traffic- just go away.

As for the original topic, tip if you want to. Bargain hard with the house, and make sure you pay local price. But as for giving money to the girl? Sure- you have a lot of money, she has very little.Rawa Malang? I miss Kalijodo.

[SmallBird]

No it doesn't make sense. Specially in a local place because locals don't tip. In addition as a foreigner we always overpay anyway so tipping on top of that make us even more stupid. When you go to a local place and you are the only bule of the day tipping makes no difference because this place caters to locals who won't try to tell you how bad the condition of the girl is to make you feel guilty. Mongering is bad anyway so people who talk on this board as priests can get lost.

In addition I would never talk of a local brothel here considering that the governor wants to shut down everything related to P4P. Kalijodo like K11 got shut down because too much publicity from internet so people should think less of their ego and more of the community here. Guys like OS who wants to make us believe he is so brave because he went to RM by himself and none of us has ever done it makes me laugh. Many people do it but they won't talk about it openly on a public board because they are smart and they don't want these places to shut down.I do agree with your point of not tipping or tipping little. FYI, recently in Jakarta tipping is kind of compulsory. It is like when you see or listen "butuh uang" (need money), from a girl to a man. Both would understand after this it is not only the man gives the girl money that simple. So I would suggest negotiate the tips before everything starts. So they would have guaranteed performance at least you would find it acceptable.

Kalijodo and Dolly are dead due to competition among groups. Alexis is dead due to the high protection fee. Recently it has its name changed, but thing seems never recovers. Last time in the river of Cairo, prostitution was so prosper. It never comes back. I have the similar feeling on Indonesia.

[Hihi Ster]

No it doesn't make sense. Specially in a local place because locals don't tip.Sorry but you are just plain wrong. Reading on one of the largest Indonesian boards tips are almost always mentioned, except when the service provided was exceptionally bad. All of my local (Local and Chinese-Indo) who are into this also report tipping. From 50/100 at places like Classic and anywhere between 100-500 for places like Alexis and Colo.

[Smoothy]

Sorry but you are just plain wrong. Reading on one of the largest Indonesian boards tips are almost always mentioned, except when the service provided was exceptionally bad. All of my local (Local and Chinese-Indo) who are into this also report tipping. From 50/100 at places like Classic and anywhere between 100-500 for places like Alexis and Colo.You are correct sir. I'd hate to see the locals these guys are hanging out with to think that's the norm. The average middle class local Indonesian tips exactly as you mention.

Another interesting post was the guy who suggested the locals never pay as much as 400 k for sex. While that may be true of the lowest of the low places like Kalijodo (now closed), the going rate at places like Hotel Classic and other popular fairly low end brothels cost just below 400 k now. To say the locals don't pay that makes no sense at all. The clientele at places like that is over 90% locals. Hell, many locals pay far more than that at places like Malioboro, etc. And those places are also frequented by over 90% locals. Jakarta has a lot of locals who have very good salaries now. The last time I went to Malioboro, I went with 3 local guys. Each of them took an import girl for over 2 million rupiah while I took a local girl because 2 million rupiah for an hour is not in my budget.

Again, it does depend on the type of locals you are hanging out with. If your local friends are guys who drive a bajaj or sell bakso in a cart by the side of the road, then I agree those guys don't tip and don't pay over 150 to 200 k. Mainly because they can't afford it.

You can find girls cheaper than 400, but the environment is less comfortable when compared to a place like Hotel Classic. I may be able to speak Bahasa Indonesian, but that doesn't mean I prefer to queue behind the bajaj drivers waiting for my turn to shag a cheap girl in an alleyway in order to save a few bucks. I can understand that there are guys who do have that mindset, but it's not for me. There's a market for everyone, but there are lots and lots of locals who absolutely do pay 400 k and more.

[BSticks]

Hi all,

I'm a regular from the Sri Lanka section. I've been to Jakarta a few times over the past year for mostly 3-4 night trips. I potentially have a work trip in 2 weeks that would let me come back but I was curious on members thoughts about if its worth it with Ramadan going on? Any opinions is appreciated.

I usually do Blok M, wechat, and a few ++ massage parlors that I absolutely love.

[Ggekko2009]

You are correct sir. I'd hate to see the locals these guys are hanging out with to think that's the norm. The average middle class local Indonesian tips exactly as you mention.

Another interesting post was the guy who suggested the locals never pay as much as 400 k for sex. While that may be true of the lowest of the low places like Kalijodo (now closed), the going rate at places like Hotel Classic and other popular fairly low end brothels cost just below 400 k now. To say the locals don't pay that makes no sense at all. The clientele at places like that is over 90% locals. Hell, many locals pay far more than that at places like Malioboro, etc. And those places are also frequented by over 90% locals. Jakarta has a lot of locals who have very good salaries now. The last time I went to Malioboro, I went with 3 local guys. Each of them took an import girl for over 2 million rupiah while I took a local girl because 2 million rupiah for an hour is not in my budget.

Again, it does depend on the type of locals you are hanging out with. If your local friends are guys who drive a bajaj or sell bakso in a cart by the side of the road, then I agree those guys don't tip and don't pay over 150 to 200 k. Mainly because they can't afford it.

You can find girls cheaper than 400, but the environment is less comfortable when compared to a place like Hotel Classic. I may be able to speak Bahasa Indonesian, but that doesn't mean I prefer to queue behind the bajaj drivers waiting for my turn to shag a cheap girl in an alleyway in order to save a few bucks. I can understand that there are guys who do have that mindset, but it's not for me. There's a market for everyone, but there are lots and lots of locals who absolutely do pay 400 k and more.

Bajaj drivers and bakso sellers, LOL. Hats off to you, Pak Smoothy. You are more Jakartan than the locals that I know. I really need to get more guidance from you on any future Jakarta trip.

[Sebastiano]

DAY 3.

Moved to Hotel Mulia for Friday. My "GF" Maria, who spent the night Thursday, drove and dropped me off at Mulia.

Had dinner with an Indonesia Cupid date. Anita - 40 something, who had suggested "drinks and dancing" followed by fun in the room. This was my non-pro attempt.SeaTraveler,

Good reports!

Got one question for you, did you opt for the paid service at Indonesia Cupid?

Cheers!

Sebastiano.

[SeaTraveler]

SeaTraveler,

Good reports!

Got one question for you, did you opt for the paid service at Indonesia Cupid?

For the cost of a 3 week trip to Indonesia, the pittance of upgrading to the full service account seemed worth it to me. So I did.

I parsed through almost 100 girls on IC; met only 4; and Maria was a gold find. Anita was nice and other one in Jakarta was a head case who I left at the dinner table. More on that in the review. The last one, Isyana, was my friend in the province and we spent a few days together. No sex, but she did let me DATY. Otherwise, just hanging out. But it was nice to have some English speaking company in the province.

I recently cancelled any renewal of the IC subscription at the completion of my trip, but I would do the paid Indonesian Cupid thing again.

A week before departing the USA for Jakarta, I upgraded Tinder to Gold as well. That gave me a week at home, where I could peruse Tinder in advance of being there to size it up.

I had 1 Tinder date. Just ok.

For me Tinder is not the way to go. I like seeing and knowing who I am spending time with before making up my mind.

As another ISG member recently related to me, "The hunt is as much a thrill as is the bedtime". For me, I too agree.

SEA Traveler.

[SeaTraveler]

Moved from Mulia to Oakwood Suites for Sat & Sunday. Nice place to stay. Built in 2016 so everything is fresh and new. 2-bedroom apartment for $119 USD. Washer / dryer in unit which came in handy for my stale clothes.

My IC GF Maria came over and gave me a ride from Mulia to Oakwood. Came in for a few hours and engaged in some work on the "big banana" ha ha ha.

Around 6 pm Frizky arrived. Frizky was an intro from fellow ISG'er FritsVanegter. I pretty much knew what to expect. Nice pleasant girl around 36. Works a day job in Jakarta and lives in Bekasi. Since I am a night owl and on the hunt several times a night, I requested ST only. Rizky prefers LT to avoid the long ride home and stays overnight for work the next day. But this was Sat and there was no work on Sunday. Problem solved, or so I thought.

Nice time in the sack. Best BBBJ during my stay in Indonesia.

But when it was time to go, she didn't want to leave. She claims she is dodging debt collectors at her home and didn't want to go. I told her I had plans and she started crying. Holy fuck! Now what?

I agreed to let her stay and it was my good fortune this was a 2-bedroom apartment. Rizky went to bed in the 2nd bedroom and soon I hit the streets.

By the time of this writing, most of the evening is a blur as the whole trip seems to run together. I eventually ended up at Blok M and bumped into LIA (my favorite from Wed) and a former "CJ's date" from 2014, Ines. We all headed back to Oakwood for another threesome.

Ines was ok, but I eventually let her go and finished the night with Lia alone. She really knows how to push my buttons.

Next up. Sunday morning Tinder date with Listyana. BO style.

[Irish Mongrel]

By the time of this writing, most of the evening is a blur as the whole trip seems to run together. I eventually ended up at Blok M and bumped into LIA (my favorite from Wed) and a former "CJ's date" from 2014, Ines. We all headed back to Oakwood for another threesome.

Is there much left in the Blok, or should I ask where there a lot of girls? You're now down to Dee's and My Bar, which really means not much to do untill late at night, and even then I'd have thought it's a bit of a gamble. Used to love starting of in Dee's and then bouncing between Top Gun and MyBar untill I found something that caught my eye, but now with Top Gun closed, well I just think of the place being pretty dead. Sort of a shame, how things have changed, all for the worse.

[SeaTraveler]

Is there much left in the Blok, or should I ask where there a lot of girls? You're now down to Dee's and My Bar, which really means not much to do untill late at night, and even then I'd have thought it's a bit of a gamble. Used to love starting of in Dee's and then bouncing between Top Gun and MyBar untill I found something that caught my eye, but now with Top Gun closed, well I just think of the place being pretty dead. Sort of a shame, how things have changed, all for the worse.I was surprised by the Blok after reading the forum leading up to my trip.

The night I arrived in Jakarta (10 pm) I stayed at the Shangri-La. I had a date from CJ's; then a date from BATS. The accompanying jet lag had me wide awake roaming around the lobby at 3 am talking to the 6 unattached girls from BATS hanging in the lobby. I thought about taking one, then I changed my mind and decided to take a trip to the Blok for old times sake. I too expected it to be "dead", but I was there 3 times in 8 days and it was packed every time; of course late at night.

But for me that's what the Blok always was. In 2014, I used to stay at Hotel Falatehan and spend the evening at CJ's, BATS, and a few other places. BLOK M was there for me if I wanted another go late at night. I'd just walk down the street and find someone at Top Gun or My Bar.

My 3rd visit to the Blok this trip, too many girls that didn't interest me physically or appearance-wise were hitting on me. It was annoying. I did run into Elle, my first ever Indonesian fuck from June 2014. I couldn't enjoy myself with the smoke, noise and unwanted companions, so I got Elle's number and left.

Saw Elle on my last day in Jakarta, so another stop at the Blok that paid dividends.

I did find LIA there and she was the only girl I saw 3 times in my 8 days in Jakarta. I'm typically one and done.

Hard to argue with success.

I will say the Blok is still alive, BUT it is, and has been, an acquired taste. More down and dirty. But it worked for me on this trip.
Both times I visited, I took 2 girls for a threesome. I offered 1.5 for both and both offers were accepted so good value.

So, to each his own. Try it and see if it's for you.


(2014 Elle pic attached).

SEA Traveler.

[Smoothy]

Speaking of blok m, here are some old photos of Maribaya.

[Smoothy]

Here are a couple of old photos of Green Pub.

[K Constant]

Since my trip in January, I've been looking at several girls active on IG as models and/or GROs (hostesses) at clubs like Fable and Immigrant, etc. I know that these girls can be booked for private photo shoots for 1 to 3 million. However, I'm curious if these girls typically do open bookings, and if so, what's the going rate. Any tips, pointers?

[Ggekko2009]

Since my trip in January, I've been looking at several girls active on IG as models and/or GROs (hostesses) at clubs like Fable and Immigrant, etc. I know that these girls can be booked for private photo shoots for 1 to 3 million. However, I'm curious if these girls typically do open bookings, and if so, what's the going rate. Any tips, pointers?

This may or may not apply to you. On Twitter, you can search for "at" mangatasuite (This posting does not allow the "at" sign, but you need to include that in your Twitter search). They are escort agencies with high class girls who are models, flight attendants etc. Their Twitter profile has WhatsApp number on it which you can connect to. I have not personally used their services. If not mistaken, their starting price is 7 million and above.

[K Constant]

If not mistaken, their starting price is 7 million and above.Thank you. I've been making some introductions directly with IG girls that spark my interest, some with a moderate social media presence and real modelling portfolio. The prices that I've seen so far are anywhere from 5 - 10 million. So, it's good to see that these requests aren't out of line. I'm not surprised that beauty / prices follow a power law (non-linear) relationship.

[Smoothy]

So we've gone from one person saying nobody should pay over 150 k to another suggesting girls with a starting price of 7 million.

[Irish Mongrel]

So we've gone from one person saying nobody should pay over 150 k to another suggesting girls with a starting price of 7 million.Just waiting for the flaming to start.

[Smoothy]

Just waiting for the flaming to start.No need for any flaming. There is simply a wide variety of alternatives in Jakarta.

[K Constant]

I just returned from a very short foray to Singapore / Kuala Lumpur. What's relevant to this forum is something I picked up as a result of my trip to Jakarta in January. After returning home, I began to follow the IG pages of spas, nightclubs, etc. Not just Malio, etc, but also places like Immigrant and Fable. Through IG, I discovered many so-called models that maintain extensive profiles. I began to follow them, but also photog profiles, modeling agency profiles, and key hashtags. There's an ecosystem of interrelated pages around girls based in Jakarta. Furthermore, agencies throw events called "photohunts" where groups of amateur photogs can meet and photograph models. Additionally, almost every model lists a contact on her personal IG page for promos and private photo shoots.

As a monger, I thought this might all be a front from an ecosystem of escorts available for "booking out," so to speak. Although I followed dozens of these girls, a particular model caught my eye in February. She had done spreads in magazines, but her current job was hostess/GRO at a popular nightclub in the SCBD. Unfortunately, I wasn't planning on visiting Jakarta during this most recent trip due to Ramadan. I tried my luck and contacted the girl through her IG, and after some back and forth, she agreed to allow me to fly her to Singapore for an evening, my final evening before returning home. I was staying at the Marina Bay Sands, and I told her to feel free to take any photos she wanted for her social media account. The Sands is an iconic 5 star hotel, with a world famous infinity pool overlooking Singapores business skyline. She wanted a fee of 1000 SGD, roughly 10 million rupiah. I offered her 750 SGD, with a tip of 250 SGD for good service.

I picked up my fantasy girl by taxi from Changi airport at around 5 pm. She freshened up at the hotel, and we went on a date which included dinner and drinks at Clark Quay and a tour of Garden by the Bay. We returned to the hotel around midnight and had a great GFE session w / multiple shots. I left her at 8 am so that I could make my 10 am flight, and she checked herself out of the hotel before 11 am.

[Eszpresszo]

I just returned from a very short foray to Singapore / Kuala Lumpur. What's relevant to this forum is something I picked up as a result of my trip to Jakarta in January. After returning home, I began to follow the IG pages of spas, nightclubs, etc. Not just Malio, etc, but also places like Immigrant and Fable. Through IG, I discovered many so-called models that maintain extensive profiles. I began to follow them, but also photog profiles, modeling agency profiles, and key hashtags. There's an ecosystem of interrelated pages around girls based in Jakarta. Furthermore, agencies throw events called "photohunts" where groups of amateur photogs can meet and photograph models. Additionally, almost every model lists a contact on her personal IG page for promos and private photo shoots.

As a monger, I thought this might all be a front from an ecosystem of escorts available for "booking out," so to speak. Although I followed dozens of these girls, a particular model caught my eye in February. She had done spreads in magazines, but her current job was hostess/GRO at high end nightclub in the SCBD. Unfortunately, I wasn't planning on visiting Jakarta during this most recent trip due to Ramadan. I tried my luck and contacted the girl through her IG, and after some back and forth, she agreed to allow me to fly her to Singapore for an evening, my final evening before returning home..Why do I get the feeling I am avoiding all these complexities by merely being a low-budget monger?

[Womaniszer]

I just returned from a very short foray to Singapore / Kuala Lumpur. What's relevant to this forum is something I picked up as a result of my trip to Jakarta in January. After returning home, I began to follow the IG pages of spas, nightclubs, etc. Not just Malio, etc, but also places like Immigrant and Fable. Through IG, I discovered many so-called models that maintain extensive profiles. I began to follow them, but also photog profiles, modeling agency profiles, and key hashtags. There's an ecosystem of interrelated pages around girls based in Jakarta. Furthermore, agencies throw events called "photohunts" where groups of amateur photogs can meet and photograph models. Additionally, almost every model lists a contact on her personal IG page for promos and private photo shoots.

As a monger, I thought this might all be a front from an ecosystem of escorts available for "booking out," so to speak. Although I followed dozens of these girls, a particular model caught my eye in February. She had done spreads in magazines, but her current job was hostess/GRO at a popular nightclub in the SCBD. Unfortunately, I wasn't planning on visiting Jakarta during this most recent trip due to Ramadan. I tried my luck and contacted the girl through her IG, and after some back and forth, she agreed to allow me to fly her to Singapore for an evening, my final evening before returning home. I was staying at the Marina Bay Sands, and I told her to feel free to take any photos she wanted for her social media account. The Sands is an iconic 5 star hotel, with a world famous infinity pool overlooking Singapores business skyline. She wanted a fee of 1000 SGD, roughly 10 million rupiah. I offered her 750 SGD, with a tip of 250 SGD for good service.

I picked up my fantasy girl by taxi from Changi airport at around 5 pm. She freshened up at the hotel, and we went on a date which included dinner and drinks at Clark Quay and a tour of Garden by the Bay. We returned to the hotel around midnight and had a great GFE session w / multiple shots. I left her at 8 am so that I could make my 10 am flight, and she checked herself out of the hotel before 11 am.I imported a girl from Jakarta, for my week holiday in Thailand, as had a very good time with her 4 months back in Jakarta. She agreed to come to Thailand. Made her passport done, we enjoyed a full week in Thailand.

Paid her 7 Million and return airfare.

Total Damage not more than 10 Million.

Well I opto you how to pay. But please think twice before paying.

[Eszpresszo]

I imported a girl from Jakarta, for my week holiday in Thailand, That's like taking sand to the beach.

[K Constant]

Well I opto you how to pay. But please think twice before paying.Totally impossible, and here's why. If I wanted just any random girl in her class, I could've bargained over multiple girls, and came away with a better price. However, I wanted one particular girl. Thus, I had the choice between two regret scenarios: Either regret paying too much, or regret not sleeping with this particular girl who I wanted in the extreme. Now, I work in an industry where by volunteering for extra work, I can easily make up the difference in cash. OTOH, any number of things may have arisen to prevent me from trying her out at a later time when I could negotiate a more favorable price. And where I live, southern Texas, there's not even a girl in her class to be used as a substitute. And no substitute would really quench my curiosity about what might have been. It's obvious from this reasoning that the least regret involves taking the girl I had fatansized about since February, even at the unfavorable price.

In fact, I felt extremely lucky that things worked out so well for me, and that this girl - whom I had never met in person - was willing and available, but also such a sweet, enjoyable, and fun date. In fact, her regular boyfriend had just recently returned to France, giving her a perfect opening to come to Singapore. Truly, the mongering gods had smiled on me. To reject the experience over mere dollars, I think, wouldve been a terrible show of ingratitude toward their good will towards me.

[Ggekko2009]

I just returned from a very short foray to Singapore / Kuala Lumpur. What's relevant to this forum is something I picked up as a result of my trip to Jakarta in January. After returning home, I began to follow the IG pages of spas, nightclubs, etc. Not just Malio, etc, but also places like Immigrant and Fable. Through IG, I discovered many so-called models that maintain extensive profiles. I began to follow them, but also photog profiles, modeling agency profiles, and key hashtags. There's an ecosystem of interrelated pages around girls based in Jakarta. Furthermore, agencies throw events called "photohunts" where groups of amateur photogs can meet and photograph models. Additionally, almost every model lists a contact on her personal IG page for promos and private photo shoots.

As a monger, I thought this might all be a front from an ecosystem of escorts available for "booking out," so to speak. Although I followed dozens of these girls, a particular model caught my eye in February. She had done spreads in magazines, but her current job was hostess/GRO at a popular nightclub in the SCBD. Unfortunately, I wasn't planning on visiting Jakarta during this most recent trip due to Ramadan. I tried my luck and contacted the girl through her IG, and after some back and forth, she agreed to allow me to fly her to Singapore for an evening, my final evening before returning home. I was staying at the Marina Bay Sands, and I told her to feel free to take any photos she wanted for her social media account. The Sands is an iconic 5 star hotel, with a world famous infinity pool overlooking Singapores business skyline. She wanted a fee of 1000 SGD, roughly 10 million rupiah. I offered her 750 SGD, with a tip of 250 SGD for good service.

I picked up my fantasy girl by taxi from Changi airport at around 5 pm. She freshened up at the hotel, and we went on a date which included dinner and drinks at Clark Quay and a tour of Garden by the Bay. We returned to the hotel around midnight and had a great GFE session w / multiple shots. I left her at 8 am so that I could make my 10 am flight, and she checked herself out of the hotel before 11 am.

For SGD 1000, I could probably only get 2 hours of escort service in the US. Dollar for dollar, you are getting a lot of value from this experience especially with a high caliber hot girl that provides great GFE, even with travel expenses factored in.

[Smoothy]

For SGD 1000, I could probably only get 2 hours of escort service in the US. Dollar for dollar, you are getting a lot of value from this experience especially with a high caliber hot girl that provides great GFE, even with travel expenses factored in.Unfortunately, you can't compare Indonesia to the US. If you do, every transaction you ever make will seem great. The comparisons need to be restricted to Indonesian girls found in Indonesia.

For 1000 SGD for a day (plus airfare), that girl better be special. I'd be curious to see a foto. For sure it is not value for money, but I can understand if the girl is "a fantasy girl". I would have gladly flown a certain Indo celebrity who is now deceased into Singapore for that much in her prime. It would be ok for a one time deal. I don't even visit places like Fable, Lucy in the Sky, or those other places near Pacific Place. It's too hard to pick girls up at those spots. The local dudes who visit those places are younger than me and many have more money than I do, so I have no advantage. I prefer to stick to lower hanging fruit.

[Offshore Swell]

In fact, I felt extremely lucky that things worked out so well for me, and that this girl - whom I had never met in person - was willing and available, but also such a sweet, enjoyable, and fun date. In fact, her regular boyfriend had just recently returned to France, giving her a perfect opening to come to Singapore. Truly, the mongering gods had smiled on me. To reject the experience over mere dollars, I think, wouldve been a terrible show of ingratitude toward their good will towards me.Yup, just go for it. OS recognised money as being a way of facilitating his lustful needs many years ago and set about constructing things so that it would always be in plentiful supply. If you got the cash and the pleasure is in the hunt then you just went on a 5 star safari, so don't be apologetic. I say 10 points.

Just imagine if some ninja dwarf jumped out of an empty cardboard box back there in Texas and stabbed you in the back tomorrow, I bet you wouldn’t regret that little adventure.

I could imagine our friend Prison Break/Bobmoron69/Kissmyass or whatever he has changed his name to now totally self combusting at the thought of somebody paying that much money. Gone in a puff of smoke and a whirl

[Blanquiceleste]

I could imagine our friend Prison Break/Bobmoron69/Kissmyass or whatever he has changed his name to now totally self combusting at the thought of somebody paying that much money. Gone in a puff of smoke and a whirlOS for President!

[Smoothy]

OS for President!President of Indonesia?

[Ggekko2009]

Unfortunately, you can't compare Indonesia to the US. If you do, every transaction you ever make will seem great. The comparisons need to be restricted to Indonesian girls found in Indonesia.

For 1000 SGD for a day (plus airfare), that girl better be special. I'd be curious to see a foto. For sure it is not value for money, but I can understand if the girl is "a fantasy girl". I would have gladly flown a certain Indo celebrity who is now deceased into Singapore for that much in her prime. It would be ok for a one time deal. I don't even visit places like Fable, Lucy in the Sky, or those other places near Pacific Place. It's too hard to pick girls up at those spots. The local dudes who visit those places are younger than me and many have more money than I do, so I have no advantage. I prefer to stick to lower hanging fruit.You are right, it is probably not a good comparison to use US prices as the benchmark. Unfortunately, US girls also cost the most compared to the rest of the world, maybe with the exception of London. I can only draw from my experience for value judgment. However as a consolation, my experiences with them have always been great. In a way, they do have to provide good services, since these agencies do depend on repeat businesses and their client pool is much smaller.

Unfortunately SEA is just way too far for me geographically. Time, or the lack of it, is probably a greater impediment to allow me to travel there more frequently. Otherwise, I would have made more trips to the region. There are still so many areas and different experiences to explore, LOL.

[K Constant]

On my IG profile, I'm following about 200+ profiles; however, here is a good starting point for those who want to try this route:

https://www.instagram.com/photogravura/ (includes shots of many girls often with links to their profiles. The girl that I mentioned in earlier posts has photos here; however, I found this page via her IG, not vice-versa.)

https://www.instagram.com/eventphotoindonesia/ (many event posts for "photohunts" and photo contests that feature girls. If you're in Jakarta and have a camera, why not check it out? Events often include lunch and prices range from 50-200 k for a half day of photographing models. Many events have sexual themes such as girls in bikinis, lingerie, and semi-nude, etc.)

[Ggekko2009]

On my IG profile, I'm following about 200+ profiles; however, here is a good starting point for those who want to try this route:

https://www.instagram.com/photogravura/ (includes shots of many girls often with links to their profiles. The girl that I mentioned in earlier posts has photos here; however, I found this page via her IG, not vice-versa.)

https://www.instagram.com/eventphotoindonesia/ (many event posts for "photohunts" and photo contests that feature girls. If you're in Jakarta and have a camera, why not check it out? Events often include lunch and prices range from 50-200 k for a half day of photographing models. Many events have sexual themes such as girls in bikinis, lingerie, and semi-nude, etc.)

I just checked it out on IG. Lots of hot beautiful girls that's for sure. Yeah, now that I have better context and to answer questions from your earlier post, all these girls are definitely bookable at the right price. I will not be surprised if many of these girls are already mistresses for some rich guys who either local or overseas. Unfortunately, one will need to have a very deep pocket to play this game.

[K Constant]

Unfortunately, one will need to have a very deep pocket to play this game.I'm like you, I refer back to the US market, but only when I find myself being too cheap for my own good. Like many mongers, I'm often out searching for the best price, which somehow means the lowest price. However, I don't necessarily know if it requires 'deep pockets,' so to speak, to book these girls. We already know that locals pay 2 juta for an imported girl at Malioboro for a mere hour of service. Using Malio as a reference, spending 5-10 juta for a day of service with a local girl, who is beautiful enough to be featured in POPULAR Indonesia, FHM, MALE, etc, isn't that expensive. The ability to pre-screen girls by watching their posts on IG, seeing their portfolio of work online, and possibly meeting them at a photo hunt, is an added benefit. I just wish that I was based in Jakarta or could visit more often to really implement this strategy.

[Smoothy]

https://www.instagram.com/photogravura/ (includes shots of many girls often with links to their profiles. The girl that I mentioned in earlier posts has photos here; however, I found this page via her IG, not vice-versa.)I'm not bragging, but I have had sex with 4 of those girls in those fotos over the years. I shagged them between 2001 and 2011, so it was a while ago. They were blok m, bats and cjs girls back in their youth. All 4 of the girls are now either close to 30 or over 30 years old. They were around 20 years old (plus or minus a bit) when I shagged them. I will say that they still look very good in person, and look great in those fotos. The most I gave any of them was 1 million (the one from 2001 was only 300 k), but again I haven't been with any of them recently. Some of them have had major plastic surgery such as breast implants and nose jobs since I knew them. I do know that they charge between 3 and 7 million for long time now when they need money, so they do have a high opinion of themselves these days. For sure, none of the 4 work near pacific place in Jakarta though, so none of them were your girl.

You can find beautiful girls all over town. But when they start modeling and get in the local magazines, their price does seem to go up. Strangely enough, their price always seems lower when they are young and fresh. As they get older and wiser, they become models, get surgeries, and demand more money. I currently know an 18 year old girl who has not yet started modeling (I am sure she will soon enough) who I consider to be as good or better looking than any of those girls, speaks perfect English, and she is fine with 1 million. But she is also completely undependable and you never know if she will show or not. haha. When she does show, it's great! However, I would never invite her to Singapore, I wouldn't be sure if she would show up.

It's all about the experience, and there is nothing wrong with going for the glamour girls if you have the cash. On a side note, I don't see any fotos of my long time favorite 2 models in that list. I haven't shagged either, but I have long wanted to. I know that photographer has shot them. Strange they are not listed there.

[Hihi Ster]

Actually the prices discussed are pretty much on par, I've played with some friends who regularly meet with those type of girls in Jakarta. They got a few "mami's" who introduce them to a regular flow of Popular and FHM girls, prices usually 4-8 jt for an evening / night. In my opinion worth it considering the quality of the girls, but unfortunately often it is a hit or miss with attitude. A lot of them look amazing but are incredibly stuck-up. What we usually do is that we book double the amount of girls vs guys, so if there's 4 guys we'll book 8 girls to accompany us for the night, that's usually 1. 5-2 jt per girl, from there we all go out and see who has the best attitude, and those are the ones that get taken back to the hotel. Thing is you can get lucky and get the same girl from CJ's for less if they're having an off month.

It has happened that we've asked the girls to leave after 30 minutes / an hour or so, no payment required, as their attitude was just unbelievable bitchy.

I'm happy that your girl turned out to be cool, it's usually a 50/50, your pricing considering the out of country travel is pretty much market rate.

[Joel Goodsen]

I'm not bragging, but I have had sex with 4 of those girls in those fotos over the years. I shagged them between 2001 and 2011, so it was a while ago. They were blok m, bats and cjs girls back in their youth. All 4 of the girls are now either close to 30 or over 30 years old. They were around 20 years old (plus or minus a bit) when I shagged them. I will say that they still look very good in person, and look great in those fotos..Good photos indeed. And they do look great. Bats / Blok M. Four, you say. Not more? Five or six do look familiar.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd9TrVDlArd/?taken-by=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/BilZt5hAGqH/?taken-by=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfXVtfOl6cW/?taken-by=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb_LXnMlLyD/?taken-by=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi1froSAW35/?taken-by=photogravura

Mmm. I am not entirely sure about number 5. I guess, the upper 4? Let me know the score! LOL. A guy like Hilo77 will nail this trivia in an instant.

[Smoothy]

They got a few "mami's" who introduce them to a regular flow of Popular and FHM girls, prices usually 4-8 jt for an evening / night. Those "mami's" get a 50% cut or more. If you can find a way to contact the girls directly, they are much cheaper.

[NoGermaphobe]

Thanks for this K Constant. You have opened up a whole new world for me to explore. Please excuse a few questions though.

How many followers and how well developed was your own IG profile? Was it a new account with no followers or pictures of your own? Or did you have a lot of pictures of cars, yachts, money, hotels, world travel, etc?

For the girl you chose, about how many followers did she have? Was she, say over 100-150 K followers?

Why would she respond? I bet she gets tons of DMs every day.

Did your profile have an actual picture of you?

How did you know when you were chatting with her that it was actually her and not an agent?

How did you bring up the subject of a P4P transaction?

Finally, and the most important for me. I am happy to pay that money for what it is if it includes all day and several pops. But for me, it would have to be BBFS all the way. I personally I am not wiling to drop 1 K on covered sex. So curious if you brought that up before, it was assumed. Or you were just safe for your own personal reasons.


On my IG profile, I'm following about 200+ profiles; however, here is a good starting point for those who want to try this route:

https://www.instagram.com/photogravura/ (includes shots of many girls often with links to their profiles. The girl that I mentioned in earlier posts has photos here; however, I found this page via her IG, not vice-versa.)

https://www.instagram.com/eventphotoindonesia/ (many event posts for "photohunts" and photo contests that feature girls. If you're in Jakarta and have a camera, why not check it out? Events often include lunch and prices range from 50-200 k for a half day of photographing models. Many events have sexual themes such as girls in bikinis, lingerie, and semi-nude, etc.)

[K Constant]

You can find beautiful girls all over town. But when they start modeling and get in the local magazines, their price does seem to go up. Strangely enough, their price always seems lower when they are young and fresh. As they get older and wiser, they become models, get surgeries, and demand more money. I currently know an 18 year old girl who has not yet started modeling (I am sure she will soon enough) who I consider to be as good or better looking than any of those girls, speaks perfect English, and she is fine with 1 million. But she is also completely undependable and you never know if she will show or not. haha. When she does show, it's great! However, I would never invite her to Singapore, I wouldn't be sure if she would show up.I have much to learn about the Jakarta market. It would be great to find one of these, "diamonds in the rough," so to speak. Are CJs, BATS, and Blok M still the places to hunt? I admit that I haven't gotten that impression from the reports I've read. Of course, I realize that many lucky opportunities probably come your way because you're embedded in Jakarta. However, if I could find a source of gorgeous, naive, 18 year olds with perfect English for 1 million, then I would turn my back on IG completely.

[Koperen Klaas]

Speaking of blok m, here are some old photos of Maribaya.Most girls have a fairly short career there. I don't recognise any of them.

[SeaTraveler]

Coming off my Saturday late night 3-some with Lia & Ines from Blok M, I had scheduled a morning appointment with my only Tinder date of the trip.

Listyan arrived on time around 11 am. I honestly couldn't tell if it was her in the Tinder pics or not, She looked different and quite a bit more chubby, but not so different that I could call it "bait & switch". I was not pleased, nor was I disappointed. Just kind of meehhhhh.

Session was fairly typical, BBBJ, DATY, CG, missionary. No pics and no video.

As mentioned previously, I prefer the hunt & the interaction leading up to the session. Makes it seem more like a "date" than a hooker showing up at the door. Especially when misrepresented. I had other Tinder leads who were contacting me on WhatsApp, but I eventually decided to stick with face-to-face meetings and referrals.
I can't personally recommend Tinder for other short-stay travelers.

Later on Sunday afternoon my IC GF, Maria showed up. We had dinner. She stayed the night getting more orgasms from the "big banana".

I left Monday for a 10-day stay in the province. I needed a few days rest anyway as my gas tank was dry from 5 days of seemingly non-stop fucking.

The next weekend in the province I had the company of a 38 year old virgin who stayed overnight with me in my hotel. Surprisingly, she let me DATY all I wanted but sex was a no-go unless I would marry her. Could have lied, of course, but I was raised with some ethical values and did not.

Up Next. My last 3 days in Jakarta. And it was a wild ride.

SEA Traveler.

[Smoothy]

Most girls have a fairly short career there. I don't recognise any of them.The one in the silver dress is Erni. Definitely a top 10 all time girl at Maribaya. What a body! Tall girl with fantastic tits. That would have been around 2001 I think.

[Smoothy]

Good photos indeed. And they do look great. Bats / Blok M. Four, you say. Not more? Five or six do look familiar.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd9TrVDlArd/?taken-by=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/BilZt5hAGqH/?taken-by=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfXVtfOl6cW/?taken-by=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb_LXnMlLyD/?taken-by=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi1froSAW35/?taken-by=photogravura

Mmm. I am not entirely sure about number 5. I guess, the upper 4? Let me know the score! LOL. A guy like Hilo77 will nail this trivia in an instant.I don't recognize any of those girls listed. But they are all wearing colored contact lenses and 1,2 and 5 have very heavy nose shadowing, so I could know them and just not be aware it is them. #3 looks quite similar to a girl who frequented top gun a few years ago, and #4 looks very similar to Dea who currently is a regular at BATS / CJs, but I don't believe either of them are those girls in the fotos. Girls 1,2 and 5 I give up even guessing simply because that nose shadowing makeup changes the girl's look so drastically that I wouldn't want to render a guess.

If you do know them, I would be curious who they are. I really don't believe that I know any of them.

[Joel Goodsen]

I don't recognize any of those girls listed. But they are all wearing colored contact lenses and 1,2 and 5 have very heavy nose shadowing, so I could know them and just not be aware it is them. Likely, that must be. The first 4 in the list I gave you were all frequenting Blok M / Bats at some point in time.

As you mentioned you shagged 4 and if that doesn't match with my 4, makes me think that probably most of them are connected in the same circuit and are still making their rounds, but now online on Instagram, snapchat and other forms of social media. With the stylish photo-shoots and all, at probably triple their former Blok / Bats rates. Wouldn't surprise me. I wouldn't be the least interested at those amounts, but good for them. Actually, the friendships these girls form together, can be long lasting, they form quite a strong bond. I know from my ex Top Gun GF, she kept in touch with some of her former colleagues for years.

[Hilo77]

A guy like Hilo77 will nail this trivia in an instant.Kind of you to give me a shout out, although this is an end of the pool that I rarely swim in these days.

First of all like NoGermaphobe I also congratulate K Constant for livening up the forum with an interesting topic, it makes a change from page after page of Classic / Travel discussions.

K Constant has nailed his colours to the mast and good for him, money is no object, he clearly can afford to pay for what he wants (you don't get a room in Marina Bay Sands on Air be&B) and he chooses to do so, he knows what he wants and if it costs a few bob he will pay the rate, fair play to him.

I will not criticise him, I once travelled the length of Australia to meet a stripper in Sydney I had met one night in Perth and with whom, through the fog of booze, I fell madly in love. I found the club she was working in and after spending a fortune on her that night I asked her out on a date the next day. She agreed and we had a fairly nice afternoon, but in the fresh sober daylight, it turned out we just didn't click (well I just lost interest in her perhaps). However, I was acting the bigshot and while in a Louis Vuitton shop I bought her a thousand dollar handbag. Why? Because I could and it suited my ego to show her I could. We men are like that, I could afford it, it was my money and who the hell was anyone to tell me different?

A postscript, I went back to the Perth club a few weeks later and met the sweetest girl ever from the Seychelles, she was absolutely lovely, we had a brief and very happy fling for a week before I returned to my home country, and she only ever asked me to buy her one thing, a thirty dollar knock-off Louis Vuitton bag in a street market. Throwing money around doesn't always get you what you want, but if it does and you are happy with what you paid for, go for it.

[Hilo77]

Good photos indeed. And they do look great. Bats / Blok M. Four, you say. Not more? Five or six do look familiar.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd9TrVDlArd/?taken-by=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/BilZt5hAGqH/?taken-by=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfXVtfOl6cW/?taken-by=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb_LXnMlLyD/?taken-by=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi1froSAW35/?taken-by=photogravura

Mmm. I am not entirely sure about number 5. I guess, the upper 4? Let me know the score! LOL. A guy like Hilo77 will nail this trivia in an instant.As regards the IG photos, Smoothy is right. Those are seriously touched up photos of some fairly standard girls (tattoos on tits usually indicate that whatever else she is the girl ain't "high class") . Make-up, lighting, filters and focus, not to mention photoshop, can transform any fairly decent looking girl into a super model.

They are also in their late twenties to early thirties, they have been around the block a bit by this stage and now that they are AMWs (actress, model, whatever) they will have quite an inflated idea of their worth. Sure, they will not let you down in a five-star hotel and will look great on your arm, and turn a few heads, in the top clubs, and if that is what you are looking for knock yourself out, it's your money and I have no objection to you spending it.

For me, well unless a girl has grown a second vagina in an interesting place I feel no need to pay a thousand dollars for her company these days. There are plenty of sweet 19 and 20-year-old office girls, living in kos-kosan in Bekasi for whom a trip to Eastern Promise is a great treat and who will repay my kindness in spades in POP! Hotel next door for the price of a couple of glasses of beer in X2 or Dragonfly (are these still the hip joints? I am out of that scene now, hip replacement is more my speed, I think).

Like I say, however, if that's what you want, have fun, it's your money and you're a big boy.