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No offense. Just being a bule. Not with a girl. No drugs. I wasn't even intoxicated. They were going to haul me to the police station if I didn't pay. Had my passport with me too. Claimed that I was supposed to report to the police station. Arguing that I was a tourist, didn't have to report, and have visited many times didn't help.
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Most people will assume I'm a fool that misread the situation and am easily intimidated, but I would have paid more to get out of it.I suspect there may be more to this situation that you may not be telling us? But if that really was the case, I would have called their bluff and walked into the police car and request to call your embassy. Generally street police are not so audacious as to make up fake charges completely out of thin air. They usually only try squeeze you of of a minor infraction or technicality, like the need to carry official ID / Passport.
No offense. Just being a bule. Not with a girl. No drugs. I wasn't even intoxicated. They were going to haul me to the police station if I didn't pay. Had my passport with me too. Claimed that I was supposed to report to the police station. Arguing that I was a tourist, didn't have to report, and have visited many times didn't help.
Maybe I look like a guy with money. I don't know. I've dealt with police many times all over south-east Asia and had never experienced anything like it.
I tried to get out of it paying 500 k, but they were having none of it.
Most people will assume I'm a fool that misread the situation and am easily intimidated, but I would have paid more to get out of it.
Happened Jalan Angkasa on google maps.Others will be quick to judge but it sounds like you got the cop on a bad hair day or were just at the wrong place at the wrong time. Cops trying to amass funds to take home for Ramadan or to pay for a Colnel's new promotion can be risky times.
Remember that the police operate on a strong patriarchal system so most of the funds are sent up the line. The guy you paid the money to kept very little of the 3 jt.
Regardless, you made it out for $250. If you went to the station, you would have been adding zeros to this.
No offense. Just being a bule. Not with a girl. No drugs. I wasn't even intoxicated. They were going to haul me to the police station if I didn't pay. Had my passport with me too. Claimed that I was supposed to report to the police station. Arguing that I was a tourist, didn't have to report, and have visited many times didn't help.
Maybe I look like a guy with money. I don't know. I've dealt with police many times all over south-east Asia and had never experienced anything like it.
I tried to get out of it paying 500 k, but they were having none of it.
Most people will assume I'm a fool that misread the situation and am easily intimidated, but I would have paid more to get out of it.
Happened Jalan Angkasa on google maps.I have been pulled over many times for the passport scam. Sometimes I give them money, sometimes not. The one and only time I did have my passport with me during one of the passport scam shakedowns, I had the exact same experience (other than the amount paid). I had only been in town 2 days. They first asked to see my passport. When I DID have my passport, they immediately transitioned to "did you report your arrival to the police station when you arrived? Where is that report?" They then went on to use that as the shakedown reason going forward. To shake you down like that though takes a cop who can speak English pretty damn well. I looked it up on the internet when I got home, and there was actually a law that states all foreign visitors to Indonesia have to fill out a report with the police station when they arrive. Nobody ever does that though. (If you are staying at a hotel, the hotel is supposed to do it for you. I did tell the cop I was staying at the Mulia, and I could see he hesitated pushing me after I said that, but he thought about it for a second then did continue pushing for money.) The bottom line is that when the police are set in their mind to get some money out of you, they are going to keep coming up with as many BS reasons as possible. That's why I don't even bother carrying my passport ever anymore. It doesn't help and I may lose it.
I don't drive a car in Jakarta anymore. However, when I used to drive a car in Jakarta, I would be pulled over on occasion by the Police for trivial traffic violations. On those occasions, the negotiations were never a problem and they never asked to see my passport, they just stuck to the actual infraction and had me pay a small fine (directly to them of course) for that. They usually wanted 50 k and never more than 100 k. I would speak Bahasa to them and they were fair for the most part. Sure it's annoying to be hassled by the police at any time, but hell, I don't mind paying 5 to 10 USD for a traffic infraction. It costs 200 USD or more for the same in the USA.
However, the passport scam shakedowns are a completely different thing. Totally unethical.
One of the main reasons to get a driver in some SE Asian countries. The convenience far out weigh the risks. That is why some locals I know tell me to just walk away and disappear and grab a taxi when something smells wrong. They can then settle it on local basis.
In rural US, shake downs are quite regular. Once I was in a rental and the cost was close to 1 k. Those were the days when rentals had bumper stickers and such. Big neon signs "Sukker on board". Similar shake downs in New Jersey. Which was surprising to me. It appears to be still going strong.
I have heard about the passport shake down but, knock on wood, no problems yet.
I don't drive a car in Jakarta anymore. However, when I used to drive a car in Jakarta, I would be pulled over on occasion by the Police for trivial traffic violations. On those occasions, the negotiations were never a problem and they never asked to see my passport, they just stuck to the actual infraction and had me pay a small fine (directly to them of course) for that. They usually wanted 50 k and never more than 100 k. I would speak Bahasa to them and they were fair for the most part. Sure it's annoying to be hassled by the police at any time, but hell, I don't mind paying 5 to 10 USD for a traffic infraction. It costs 200 USD or more for the same in the USA.
However, the passport scam shakedowns are a completely different thing. Totally unethical..
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08-25-18, 10:33
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I suspect there may be more to this situation that you may not be telling us? But if that really was the case, I would have called their bluff and walked into the police car and request to call your embassy. Generally street police are not so audacious as to make up fake charges completely out of thin air. They usually only try squeeze you of of a minor infraction or technicality, like the need to carry official ID / Passport.I don't really care if you believe me or not.
Going to a police station in the early hours of the morning in a city I didn't know well, with police that had just tried their best to extort me is a situation only a fool would put themselves in.
I make money so I don't have to argue over a couple of hundred bucks with guys that could plant drugs on me, beat me, or just waste 6 hours of my life holding me until morning.
Offshore Swell
08-25-18, 16:06
I don't drive a car in Jakarta anymore. However, when I used to drive a car in Jakarta, I would be pulled over on occasion by the Police for trivial traffic violations. On those occasions, the negotiations were never a problem and they never asked to see my passport, they just stuck to the actual infraction and had me pay a small fine (directly to them of course) for that. They usually wanted 50 k and never more than 100 k. I would speak Bahasa to them and they were fair for the most part. Sure it's annoying to be hassled by the police at any time, but hell, I don't mind paying 5 to 10 USD for a traffic infraction. It costs 200 USD or more for the same in the USA.
However, the passport scam shakedowns are a completely different thing. Totally unethical.Agreed, the traffic fines are a kind of a fair cop. The road block shakedowns not so.
OS strongly recommends getting a MOGE, (Motor Gede), aka a big noisy motorcycle. Ducati's are good. As a rule of thumb they tend to avoid pulling over big bikes as a disproportionate number of senior police, or otherwise well connected risk takers ride them.
OS turned East at Mall Atrium on his way to Cempakah Mas the other day and failed to immediately enter the bike lane after coming off the overpass and guess what? Spotted him in his Hi vis and could see him moving out to get me pulled over. But with the STNK rego papers and drivers license sitting at home on the table. OS just floored it. Poor kid didn't even have time to get his baton out and take a swing and OS was just a burble in his disappointments for the day. Funny bit was shortly afterwards, some other dude on a big bike went flying past me going even faster. Poor Constable Care was having a bad day.
I would have called their bluff and walked into the police car and request to call your embassy. Generally street police are not so audacious as to make up fake charges completely out of thin airJon, good call. Report back on how that works for you next time it happens. Most embassies have senior staff on standby at the middle of the night and are ready to assist their citizens to avoid charges when technically they have not complied with local laws.
I'd suggest you also insist on speaking to the cop's Superiors and even the Media. I'm sure they will side with the Bule out roaming the streets at 3 am and force the cop to back down. Remember the more fuss and noise you make the better it is for you.
This will be much more effective than the $200 and 30 minutes that Marky was charged for being a white guy in the wrong place at the wrong time. A felony in most areas of Asia.
OS strongly recommends getting a MOGE, (Motor Gede), aka a big noisy motorcycle. Ducati's are good. As a rule of thumb they tend to avoid pulling over big bikes as a disproportionate number of senior police, or otherwise well connected risk takers ride them.
OS turned East at Mall Atrium on his way to Cempakah Mas the other day and failed to immediately enter the bike lane after coming off the overpass and guess what? Spotted him in his Hi vis and could see him moving out to get me pulled over. But with the STNK rego papers and drivers license sitting at home on the table. OS just floored it.Ummm, be careful out there:
Rich, connected, fast Duc rider 0.
Jl Sudirman pot plant 1.
http://jakartaglobe.id/archive/top-adaro-energi-exec-killed-in-motorcycle-accident/
Agreed, the traffic fines are a kind of a fair cop. The road block shakedowns not so.
OS strongly recommends getting a MOGE, (Motor Gede), aka a big noisy motorcycle. Ducati's are good. As a rule of thumb they tend to avoid pulling over big bikes as a disproportionate number of senior police, or otherwise well connected risk takers ride them.
OS turned East at Mall Atrium on his way to Cempakah Mas the other day and failed to immediately enter the bike lane after coming off the overpass and guess what? Spotted him in his Hi vis and could see him moving out to get me pulled over. But with the STNK rego papers and drivers license sitting at home on the table. OS just floored it. Poor kid didn't even have time to get his baton out and take a swing and OS was just a burble in his disappointments for the day. Funny bit was shortly afterwards, some other dude on a big bike went flying past me going even faster. Poor Constable Care was having a bad day.The worst is when you get shaken down by those motorcycle cops on the big bikes. I've found they demand the highest bribes.
I wonder if one could outrun them though at 3 am if you had they own Ducati? I would think it would be easy enough to run away from a normal police roadblock with one, but to outrun a cop who is also on one may be an exciting challenge.
Jon, good call. Report back on how that works for you next time it happens. Most embassies have senior staff on standby at the middle of the night and are ready to assist their citizens to avoid charges when technically they have not complied with local laws.Your sarcasm, is unhelpful. Just so we know your level of expertise, How many police checks have you been through, and how many local Officers have you conversed with in Bahasa? And do you know how they operate to meet their quotas, and their chain of command for reporting? You seem to forget that the poster 'alleged' that he did not break any law, and I was operating on this assumption. What law did he not technically not comply with? There is no law for 'being at the wrong place at the wrong time' as you claim. The officers would need to completely fabricate an illegitimate charge, and report it to the commandant in order to abandon their post to bring you to the station, and would themselves risk trouble if it was falsely escalated and exposed.
To counter your point, a friend of mine was once pulled over by Police in a taxi, and didn't have his passport. They wanted 1 juta and he didn't want to pay that, so he walked into the back of the police car and said go ahead take me to the station and we'll sort this out. He was willing to call out their bluff as they were trying to hose him. After a few minutes the cops asked if he could pay 300 k instead. If they don't want to go to the hassle of booking him for a 'real' offence, how much less inclined would they be for a made-up offence?
Anyways, I'm not telling you or anyone else how to handle this situation. It's up to the individual to decide what they want to do, but there is a limit to how far officers will go before exposing themselves to risk or excess inconvenience, especially in recent years since the Ahok regime started cracking down on renegade cops. For them to take you to the station, they have to file a report report with the commandant in order to leave their post, and if they take too much time with any single car or miss their quotas they also get in trouble from the commandant, so I've never heard of any low level officer doing that without an actual justifiable cause. Personally, after going through dozens of police checks, and speaking with them in Bahasa during these checks to understand how they operate, I'm not naive enough to pay 3 juta for not breaking any law or doing anything wrong. It would be a different story however if I did 'technically' break some law.
Hotel Travel.
1 lady 1 pop - 1 hour - 350 k (I got this).
2 ladies 2 pops 1. 5 h - 500 k (the girl said most guys do this 2 girl session).
3 ladies 2+ pops 1. 5 h - 700 k.
She also mentioned that the rooms are larger with more ladies.
I took one girl but this production kind of turned me off with all off the real intimate service I was getting at these shithole massage places Travel hotel was more of a turn and burn kind of place.
At least its cheap. I went up to the room with the girl everything kind of normal until she started to get ready for her session she sprayed everything with mouthwash my balls which actually kind of stung a little bit from the mouthwash the best thing was the ball massage I kind of opted out of sex cause she was so mechanical her pussy was as dry as the nevada desert kinda like like a rubber chew toy. I decided to just save it for later at one of the shops I know where I can relax. This place for a noob I think is heaven but for someone who has been here a few times the smaller massage shops offer a more personal touch. I guess I just feel more at ease when the girls are not trying to kick you out the door to get to the next customer. She was pretty but her attitude was kind of turning me off she had hand sanitizer and lube and a spray bottle and this pad she sprayed with mouthwash on it and held the condom like it was baby jesus. Good thing is the price is right bad thing is this place is kind of clinical it feels more like a sperm donation than sex to me. Going to head out later tonight and grab a more GFE experience at the body to body shops.Thanks for the information on BO, MM.
Went to Hotel Travel yesterday afternoon. The last time I went, an entrance fee was charged which can be set off against any expenditure. I was surprised this has been waived. Charges were as reported and was told these are promotional prices in the afternoon. Anyway took the double package after a short chit chat. Ordered drinks in the room for three of us and the bill was almost 150 K for just 2 packet drinks and a can of Coke. Beware of the price before you order!
Banana Boi
08-26-18, 08:01
Ordered drinks in the room for three of us and the bill was almost 150 K for just 2 packet drinks and a can of Coke. Beware of the price before you order!I don't pay much attention to drink prices at Travel but 50 k per drink doesn't sound too outrageous. How much were you thinking it should be?
Forget about drink prices. How was your 3 some? Better than the general consensus we read about?
Your sarcasm, is unhelpful. Just so we know your level of expertise, Probably.
I'm not presenting myself as a "expert" but I do strongly disagree with assumptions that Indonesian police fully comply with and act only upon local laws. While inroads have been made, corruption is still rife within all levels of policing.
How many police checks have you been throughAgain, I'm no expert and this is not a pissing contest. Just to present facts and outcomes of my interactions as requested:
Road block of my taxi at 4 am with my legitimate girlfriend and 3 of her friends, heading back from a night's clubbing and the girls dressed accordingly. Even I thought we looked guilty. Refused to hand over passport but gave local ID. One older girl jumped to my defence saying I was a friend of her husband (true) and I spoke Bahasa. Result: stopped maybe 30 minutes and paid 50 k.
Me driving a vehicle across provincial borders without registering the vehicle locally (technically car registration is for the Province the car is registered in only and an additional permit is required in another Province. Note "technically" as it happens all the time but with a white guy driving, you get the idea). Stopped maybe 20 minutes, showed my valid SIM drivers license and was given the option of 20 k paid at the station an hour away or 70 k, there and then. I paid 70 k.
In a taxi from the airport. The driver followed a ministerial car as his escort cleared traffic. The last police bike stopped us for 15 minutes threatening the driver. I said nothing. Driver paid small "fine" and I gave him a 100 k tip.
Probably dozens of vanilla stops where no one was in the wrong and nothing of consequence happened.
how many local Officers have you conversed with in Bahasa? And do you know how they operate to meet their quotas, and their chain of command for reporting? I'm not in the military nor LE but I do work in a very heavily legislated industry. In different roles, I dealt with Kepolsek, Kepolda, Kepolri anywhere from a daily to monthly basis.
"Quotas" as I said, are ad hoc and can be driven by seasonal events (Ramadan etc) when demand is high or opportunism (foreigners in town for Asia Games, illegal timber areas etc).
Promotion can be earned, nepotism or bought. If bought, they are not cheap. I've heard numbers of USD 100 k to become a Colonel in a lucrative area and I believe it. Obviously, if borrowed, this needs to be paid back. If not, it needs to earn return and patriachal kickbacks form a significant part of this.
You seem to forget that the poster 'alleged' that he did not break any law, and I was operating on this assumption. What law did he not technically not comply with?Show documentation proving that he had reported to police. Obviously this is handled by the hotel he was staying at and is very rarely enforced bit it's normally the next question asked after "Show us your ID". I wasn't justifying the police's position but pointing out that Embassies are very reluctant to get involved if there has been a breach (however rediculous).
There is no law for 'being at the wrong place at the wrong time' as you claim.Yes, there is no legislation about a foreigner being a convenient and lucrative target. However in the real world, corruption is very opportunistic and if the possibility presents itself it will be grasped. A "rich" white guy who may not know legal requirements and has any gaps in documentation etc is mana from heaven.
To counter your point, a friend of mine was once pulled over by Police in a taxi, and didn't have his passport. They wanted 1 juta and he didn't want to pay that, so he walked into the back of the police car and said go ahead take me to the station and we'll sort this out. He was willing to call out their bluffI totally agree that calling the police's bluff can be effective but be prepared that if yours is call the ramifications can be severe. Marky has said that risk was worth paying the $200.
I'm not naive enough to pay 3 juta for not breaking any law or doing anything wrong. It would be a different story however if I did 'technically' break some law.Do I think 3 jt was excessive and Marky was ripped off? Yes.
It could have been less but it also could have been a lot more if he stood his ground unsuccessfully.
Probably.
I'm not presenting myself as a "expert" but I do strongly disagree with assumptions that Indonesian police fully comply with and act only upon local laws. While inroads have been made, corruption is still rife within all levels of policing.
Again, I'm no expert and this is not a pissing contest. Just to present facts and outcomes of my interactions as requested:
Road block of my taxi at 4 am with my legitimate girlfriend and 3 of her friends, heading back from a night's clubbing and the girls dressed accordingly. Even I thought we looked guilty. Refused to hand over passport but gave local ID. One older girl jumped to my defence saying I was a friend of her husband (true) and I spoke Bahasa. Result: stopped maybe 30 minutes and paid 50 k.They wanted 10 million to start with. It took a lot of negotiating to get it down.
Like I said, happy to walk away for 3 million.
These guys weren't playing games.
Going with completely unreasonable, unhinged corrupt police in the early hours of the morning on my own in a city I don't know is incredibly stupid.
If they're willing to extort me for 10 million for being a bule, I wouldn't put anything past them. Any kind of trumped up charge, plant drugs, just hold me at the station to fuck with me.
It was a Bluebird taxi I was in not a fake Bluebird.
And not fake police. It was too big of an operation on a road with traffic to be bandits. I would have been stopped on the side of the road for at 10 minutes.
Probably.
I'm not presenting myself as a "expert" but I do strongly disagree with assumptions that Indonesian police fully comply with and act only upon local laws. While inroads have been made, corruption is still rife within all levels of policing.
Again, I'm no expert and this is not a pissing contest.Are you sure you're not expert? Because its quite a mixed message to deny it, and then write a 10 paragraphs essay cherry picking and twisting my points in your counter-argument.
I'm really not trying to attack anyone, and I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just have a different experience and perspective about this, that's all.
I NEVER said the police were not corrupt, and ONLY act upon local laws. It is well known they are corrupt. All I said was that there are limits to their corruption. Sure, Indonesia is not as lawful as Europe, but at the same time its not as lawless as wild-west.
My belief-until someone proves otherwise with actual evidence and not speculation or hearsay- is they won't actually Jail you for simply being a white guy walking around with the proper ID (a kitas or passport) who didn't do anything wrong. It doesn't mean that they won't use that as a 'threat' to try squeeze the new, naive or gullible. My small sample size of people I know that called their bluffs, were able to get their asking prices substantially lowered to small amounts where it was acceptable just pay them and get it over with (not worth saving $20 on principle to find out). If they did throw you in jail for something as benign as 'being a tourist failing to report to a police station', you absolutely can and should report that to your embassy, they are there to help their citizens and would make inquiries. The Police would be reluctant to have that type negative press get out, as corruption exploits have led to firings if you watch the news, and I guarantee you an officer would get fired for pulling a stunt like that. If you can show me evidence of people actually being jailed for such bogus and benign charges I'll take it all back, but my experiences and the empirical evidence shown to me lead me to believe they are not that audacious as to actually follow through threats of such bogus charges onto tourists (perhaps in the past, but definitely not now).
I don't blame or be-grudge Marky for paying up also, and I'm not attacking him in any way. He's a new person in an unfamiliar environment, and frankly it wasn't a big deal to him financially to risk finding out. I totally get it. I am just really surprised for the amount they asked for (10 Juta correct?) because it is a-typical, and I'm not sure why they tried it on him or thought they could get it from him? While he talked it down significantly (which is an indicator they just swung for the fences), my own belief is that if he held his ground, he could have gotten it down to the normal amount and they wouldn't have thrown him in jail for it anyways- at most inconvenienced him for a few hours. Just the usual posturing I've seen several times over and over. You have to think from the officers perspective also. Incidents of corruption like this have been publicised in the news leading to the demotion / sacking of officers accused or seen accepting bribes (increasingly since the Ahok regime, this is why they make you be ultra discrete handing them money, sometimes even putting it into an object, then to the officer), so the officers are also weighing their own risks and want to keep it quiet also, and I don't think they themselves want to die on that hill for a measly couple Juta because a lawful tourist wanted to test their resolve to be corrupt. Its a game of chicken and 99/100 times the Police are happy with a small victory.
That's just my 2 cents and I'm absolutely leaving it at that. You are free to handle these situations however you choose, I'm not forcing anybody. Lets just get back to topic, this has been beaten to death!
Member #4794
08-27-18, 17:02
This Blok M party is dead stick a fork in it half the street is pitch black the rest has a total of maybe 20-30 girls dispersed around 3 or 4 bars. In contrast hotel travel has like maybe 100 in one massage parlor.
Of the 20 girls maybe 10 are 20-30 and 10 30-40, I used Agoda Homes where the host failed to show up and I had no where to stay I was supposed to stay in a luxurious apartment at the marina I am now stuck in the shitole formerly known as Blok M. My time here has be desperately refreshing wechat to look for real women and price is kind of high I got quoted 700 k-1 mil but in a desert almost anything looks good. I went to a few bars here in Blok M the desperation here you could cut with a knife I'm just going to not partake and use these days to recharge my time in mangga besar I had about 20 women in a super short amount if time that's a lot of viagra popping, just going to detox and relax for the few days I'm in Blok M.
This Blok M party is dead stick a fork in it half the street is pitch black the rest has a total of maybe 20-30 girls dispersed around 3 or 4 bars.If you went on a Sunday night, that will be true. It was also true on a Sunday night at Blok M years ago.
I agree that it's pretty dead, but you can still find fun at Ds or My Bar from Wednesday thru Saturday nights.
Long time back almost 10 years back, I and my wife were travelling Jakarta and we were in rental car travelling from Jakarta to Bangor for a day trip. We were sitting at rear and I asked driver are we required to wear seat belt and he said no need. Well moment we enter Bogor police blew whistle and stop the car and he duck his head inside and asked us why we are not wearing seat belt. I said in English driver said you don't need. But he said driver is not local so does not know local law. He asked for my papers and my wife was carrying photo copy of our PP, (our hotel advise us to carry photocopy instead of original) and police ask me why we don't carry original PP. I said original PP is in hotel locker and if you don't trust my Photocopy then you can call immigration office and check the originality of PP. Car was stop for more then 25 minutes and finally I ask driver how much he need, so driver said he want 50 K I said OK you pay from your pocket now and I will pay you afterwards as we don't want to show our wallet and he demands more. So finally we paid 50 K and moved on. So this incident has left sour taste about Indonesia trip otherwise all is well. So we need to know few some basic rules, carry photo copy of PP, never hand over original then you are stuck if he keep PP in his custody. Don't open wallet and don't negotiate yourselves.
Are you sure you're not expert? Because its quite a mixed message to deny it, and then write a 10 paragraphs essay cherry picking and twisting my points in your counter-argument.
I'm really not trying to attack anyone, and I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just have a different experience and perspective about this, that's all.
I NEVER said the police were not corrupt, and ONLY act upon local laws. It is well known they are corrupt. All I said was that there are limits to their corruption. Sure, Indonesia is not as lawful as Europe, but at the same time its not as lawless as wild-west.
My belief-until someone proves otherwise with actual evidence and not speculation or hearsay- is they won't actually Jail you for simply being a white guy walking around with the proper ID (a kitas or passport) who didn't do anything wrong. It doesn't mean that they won't use that as a 'threat' to try squeeze the new, naive or gullible. My small sample size of people I know that called their bluffs, were able to get their asking prices substantially lowered to small amounts where it was acceptable just pay them and get it over with (not worth saving $20 on principle to find out).
No being there it is hard to say. But I am a bit of a coward. I would usually protest nicely and negotiate and try to read the situation. If I am getting railroaded and digging a deeper hole for myself with no backup, I would reverse tactics. If I feel that a couple see notes will stop the BS and get me out of any potential problem, I would pay. I can make more and the downside out weighs the upside. I doubt any government will press charges against me for paying the bride, but it is in the back of my mind.
Thanks for sharing. It is interesting because with so many witnesses, on their side, there was obviously some other dynamics there. A habit from my NY days; I always have some see notes on me.
They wanted 10 million to start with. It took a lot of negotiating to get it down.
Like I said, happy to walk away for 3 million.
These guys weren't playing games.
Member #4794
08-28-18, 14:27
If you went on a Sunday night, that will be true. It was also true on a Sunday night at Blok M years ago.
I agree that it's pretty dead, but you can still find fun at Ds or My Bar from Wednesday thru Saturday nights.For guys who have been here its its hay day maybe this still has its place. For any noobs that might come here thinking this is a viable option. There are some old hangers on when I say old I mean old about 50+ that act as fixers or psudo mama sans they say D's doesn't pop off until after 12 and my bar is fine maybe the equivalent of a santos street bar in AC but its just the one place they say MyBar pops off after 10 pm. Before that these places are totally dead so don't even bother going before 10 pm which I have done and absolutely nothing happening. The older ladies pimp off the younger ones for a small commission and they are asking 1 million compared to mangga besar where I was pulling free lancers and massage girls fro 500 including tip this is 1 million before tip. It's a supply and demand issue not a lot of demand so leads to limited supply which makes the prices double. I personally didn't pull anything here other than a few single mothers on wechat. Other spots half this price more selection and hotter girls imo. I just dropped about 1,000,000 on japanese food here over the past few days that's about the only thing worth doing in this area.
What are we talking about? A guy who is on the way to his hotel having just arrived at the airport, carrying his original passport, I would have definitely called his bluff till the end. There is no way he would've ended up in jail. As mentioned previously although in general the police is corrupt, even they have their limits.
The whole report to police station is ONLY valid when staying in private accommodation (friends' apartment, airBNB etc, you are not personally required to report yourself if staying in a hotel as the hotel is required by law to do so. Even if they do not, you are not legally liable for the hotels failure to follow the law, nor do you need to carry proof of this report with you. What you do need is proof that you are staying in a hotel.
In saying that, I can understand that someone who is tired, who doesn't speak the language and just wants to get to sleep that they might be inclined to just pay the few bucks, but 500 k to 3 jt is simply too much.
I have gotten pulled over many, many times over the years, I have not paid a single bribe over 100 k ever, even during the 4 am razia coming home from clubbing and barely able to drive straight with a LC who was sucking me off in the car 10 seconds before being pulled over.
For guys who have been here its its hay day maybe this still has its place. For any noobs that might come here thinking this is a viable option. There are some old hangers on when I say old I mean old about 50+ that act as fixers or psudo mama sans they say D's doesn't pop off until after 12 and my bar is fine maybe the equivalent of a santos street bar in AC but its just the one place they say MyBar pops off after 10 pm. Before that these places are totally dead so don't even bother going before 10 pm which I have done and absolutely nothing happening. The older ladies pimp off the younger ones for a small commission and they are asking 1 million compared to mangga besar where I was pulling free lancers and massage girls fro 500 including tip this is 1 million before tip. It's a supply and demand issue not a lot of demand so leads to limited supply which makes the prices double. I personally didn't pull anything here other than a few single mothers on wechat. Other spots half this price more selection and hotter girls imo. I just dropped about 1,000,000 on japanese food here over the past few days that's about the only thing worth doing in this area.Agree that I would never stay in the Blok M area these days. I would stop by there on occasion late at night after 2 am on Wed thru Sat night only.
Going on my umpteenth trip to The Phils soon but been planning a few weeks in Indonesia this time as well.
My passport is getting very full. It seems the Indo visa is a full page sticker rather than a little stamp. Is this right?
Cheers.
Going on my umpteenth trip to The Phils soon but been planning a few weeks in Indonesia this time as well.
My passport is getting very full. It seems the Indo visa is a full page sticker rather than a little stamp. Is this right?
Cheers.If you're from the States, and your stay is under thirty days, a visa isn't required.
I don't pay much attention to drink prices at Travel but 50 k per drink doesn't sound too outrageous. How much were you thinking it should be?
Forget about drink prices. How was your 3 some? Better than the general consensus we read about?I wouldn't mind if it was beer.
Although you can have 2 shots with the two girl within the 1 hour 30 minutes, the girls mentioned it is done either one at a time or both together. They suggested the latter would be better but only one shot. I started with the older girl but came into the younger girl who was more enthusiastic and seemed to enjoy herself. Started with cowgirl while the other kiss my nipples. Finished off in doggie and missionary with the other girl hugging from behind. Both the girls warmed up with BJ but I prefer the one from the younger girl. The older girl was not so fleshy and had some birth scars on her tummy. Maybe I will return for the younger girl only but sometimes it quite difficult to resist the price for two girls. Tipped both the girls 100 k each.
Member #4733
08-29-18, 21:02
Going on my umpteenth trip to The Phils soon but been planning a few weeks in Indonesia this time as well.
My passport is getting very full. It seems the Indo visa is a full page sticker rather than a little stamp. Is this right?
Cheers.Visa on arrival in Bali last year was 3 cm x 3 cm (little more than an inch).
When you leave a triangle is stamped within the square.
Going on my umpteenth trip to The Phils soon but been planning a few weeks in Indonesia this time as well.
My passport is getting very full. It seems the Indo visa is a full page sticker rather than a little stamp. Is this right?
Cheers.If your nationality is allowed a free 30 day Visa on Arrival, it's just one stamp on arrival and another on departure. Note this visa cannot be extended.
A paid 60 day extendable visa is a full page label.
Charm City Dave
08-30-18, 18:58
How does Awal Muharram on Tuesday September 11th effect things. Are things dead the whole week or just for the day?
AcesWild1917
08-31-18, 16:55
What are we talking about? A guy who is on the way to his hotel having just arrived at the airport, carrying his original passport, I would have definitely called his bluff till the end. There is no way he would've ended up in jail. As mentioned previously although in general the police is corrupt, even they have their limits.
The whole report to police station is ONLY valid when staying in private accommodation (friends' apartment, airBNB etc, you are not personally required to report yourself if staying in a hotel as the hotel is required by law to do so. Even if they do not, you are not legally liable for the hotels failure to follow the law, nor do you need to carry proof of this report with you. What you do need is proof that you are staying in a hotel.
In saying that, I can understand that someone who is tired, who doesn't speak the language and just wants to get to sleep that they might be inclined to just pay the few bucks, but 500 k to 3 jt is simply too much.
I have gotten pulled over many, many times over the years, I have not paid a single bribe over 100 k ever, even during the 4 am razia coming home from clubbing and barely able to drive straight with a LC who was sucking me off in the car 10 seconds before being pulled over.I am planning a 4-5 day visit in mid November to break up my 30 day Thai vacation but from reading all this about the currupt cops I'm having second thoughts and may go back to AC instead.
Is this a real big problem or does it happen to everyone?
I live in Mexico so am used to corrupt Police but you can usually get out of it by refusing to pay as they don't like to take the time & trouble to take you in.
Fast Eddie 48
09-01-18, 01:23
I am planning a 4-5 day visit in mid November to break up my 30 day Thai vacation but from reading all this about the currupt cops I'm having second thoughts and may go back to AC instead.
Is this a real big problem or does it happen to everyone?
I live in Mexico so am used to corrupt Police but you can usually get out of it by refusing to pay as they don't like to take the time & trouble to take you in.To Ace.
Don't be naive you don't think there is corrupt cop in AC just paid attention and still out of trouble.
Fast Eddie 48.
Fast Eddie 48
09-01-18, 01:27
Thanks, Goferring.To Tungsten 2.
I have a US passport and travel a lot you can get page added, I do this a lot at my US embassy it only take a few HR and is free not sure what passport you hold.
Fast Eddie 48.
Indonesia (jakarta?) monger pros and cons as I see them.
Pros:
ST is extremely affordable ranges from $24-34 at the current exchange rate. You could possibly visit 5 shops a day and not really break the bank.
Also the more remote the massage places are ive also found that the women are hotter for whatever reason. not all of them offer the same stuff some of the shops have older women 35-50 some are 25-35 and some offer 20-30 the ones where the girls are 20-30 seem to be in more discreet locations. So paying MORE for hotter girls is not always the best move imo sometimes its just location and supply and demand. The hottest girl ive ever been with in indonesia was in this hole in the wall massage place and she was the normal 350,000 i would have paid five times that for that girl. Some of the shops have a line up and some of the shops you need to pick the girls from photoshopped photos. Ive also found that the ones without the line up is where i found hotter girls this may just be a coincidence or the time of day i went.
You have a wide variety of options for venues, personally I do not go the places where ST is 1 mil+ I personally just don't see the point as an american if I want to throw away money I can do it in luxury in las vegas and get more for it imo.
You get propositioned almost everywhere the key is networking these propositions they are after money so building a intel commission based relationship broadens your selection quite a bit. I offer an introduction bounty for any over 20 home body women that need extra cash. 9/10 times this works out best for me.
Agree with some of what you've said-- especially if the 1 jt+ is worth it. For example, at Malio, I've had really good experiences with girls who are as cute and fit in the 400 k range as the 700+ range, if not better.
Can you share some of the areas where you've had success for more remote massage places? Do you mean like around Kota Kasablanka etc?
And as for building a network-- you're saying you have girls you meet at the massage places refer you to friends of theirs?
For me, thus far outside of the ST places like Classic or Malio, I've only met up with civvies who do actually give more of a GFE vibe, but then I am Asian so maybe that changes things.
Member #4794
09-01-18, 19:30
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Can you share some of the areas where you've had success for more remote massage places? Do you mean like around Kota Kasablanka etc?
And as for building a network-- you're saying you have girls you meet at the massage places refer you to friends of theirs?
...When I say remote I mean just a few blocks down from the normal haunts. There is a patch of places near the grand asia hotel which I have always had a good time at the only thing is you kinda need to make it a point to get there as there is really no other reason to go to that area there is also a patch near kings cross but I've heard from more than 1 indonesian who lives in Jakarta that for some reason east Jakarta is more rough than the rest of the city I don't know if there is any validility to this statement. Honestly almost every single cultasack in Jakarta has massage places or bording houses in it, it is just a matter of physcialy going there and looking at their girls.
When I say build a network I mean the mama san network. I give them a 50 k note and tell them more is on the way if they pass me some solid intel. And also give my wechat or what's app out to the boarding houses and if they have any lookers to send me a picture it kind of cuts down on the time I spend in some areas if I always have an agent working for me in that area. I also ask them if the shops are open or closed or if they are busy or not. Sometimes these massage places are randomly closed for a few days and I have no idea why. I do also ask for non pros from the girls I find on wechat its kind of hit and miss most of the time the wechat girl is the good looking one. Sometimes the girls will fire back with "you don't like me?" which can be kind of a non starter.
AcesWild1917
09-01-18, 21:29
To Ace.
Don't be naive you don't think there is corrupt cop in AC just paid attention and still out of trouble.
Fast Eddie 48.I've been to AC and since I was not in a taxi much saw no problems with the cops and don't read much about the bribing of bad cops. Maybe it happens but it seems to me that a lot of the times there it is somewhat deserved.
I live in Mexico so am very aware of corrupt police but from reading this forum it sounds to me much worse or am I only getting part of the story.
In most cases in Mexico if you have done nothing wrong and call their bluff you pay nothing because they don't want to take the time to take you back to the station or even to write a ticket as that is time they could be targeting another sucker who will pay.
I was just curious if this happens all the time or just once in a while and is it almost certain to happen to a gringo tourist?
Blanquiceleste
09-02-18, 15:56
Earlier this month I was in Jakarta for 2 days. Stayed at Mercure Kota.
Paid the obligatory visit to Classic and managed to get a really good bang for the buck. At 350 K you cannot go wrong. The girl was very co-operative and did everything I wanted in a non-rushed manner. Very happy, tipped her 50 K.
Paid a visit to the spas at Kelapa Gading. King Cross and Sumo. Standard fare. Had a good time at both places. Personally I like Sumo more.
Visited BATS on both nights. On one night I picked a girl who stayed till next afternoon. Paid her 2. 5 juta. The opening quote in the bar was 3. 5 juta and I almost fell off my chair. But the girl would not budge below 2. 5 juta and I wanted her that night. The second night I drew a blank at BATS as I got there rather late after my Kelapa Gading visits. Also, I had an early flight the next day back to Singapore.
Should be back soon.
I think rules have changed. I have not hit that point there recently. Several years ago, additional pages were no longer free so I just go a new one for the sake of convenience.
To Tungsten 2.
I have a US passport and travel a lot you can get page added, I do this a lot at my US embassy it only take a few HR and is free not sure what passport you hold.
Fast Eddie 48.
Mexico and most Latin and south american countries have corruption to an art. You will not have a problem in Jakarta since you will be experienced. I stil remember first time in Mexico and having an armed body guard. Nowadays, armoured cars are in such demand it is factory option. It is pretty funny how things progress.
Also, parts of Mexico are real sxxx hole places so bad sides of Jakarta will not shock you.
I am planning a 4-5 day visit in mid November to break up my 30 day Thai vacation but from reading all this about the currupt cops I'm having second thoughts and may go back to AC instead.
Is this a real big problem or does it happen to everyone?
I live in Mexico so am used to corrupt Police but you can usually get out of it by refusing to pay as they don't like to take the time & trouble to take you in.
Mexico and most Latin and south american countries have corruption to an art. You will not have a problem in Jakarta since you will be experienced. I stil remember first time in Mexico and having an armed body guard. Nowadays, armoured cars are in such demand it is factory option. It is pretty funny how things progress.
Also, parts of Mexico are real sxxx hole places so bad sides of Jakarta will not shock you.Being experienced won't help a whole lot. If they pull you over, you are likely going to pay something.
I get shaken down about once a year in Jakarta, so it's not extremely frequent. That still leaves the majority of days not getting shaken down during the year.
Visited BATS on both nights. On one night I picked a girl who stayed till next afternoon. Paid her 2. 5 juta. The opening quote in the bar was 3. 5 juta and I almost fell off my chair. But the girl would not budge below 2.5 juta and I wanted her that night.Holy Jesus. Those girls are not getting that much at BATS these days. Most of them will take 1 million. 1.5 should be the max.
I'd be curious which BATS girl this was. Do you have her name or photo?
Of course it's your money and sometimes when you have your heart set on some chick (and had a few beers), it may seem the prudent course, but giving these girls 2.5 is going to spoil the market. I'd hate for that to become the going rate. A few years ago, girls were asking for that much, but the price has dropped in recent years. An exception may possibly be if you are black or Indian, the girls may raise the price on you at BATS and you have to pay a premium simply because of that (if you fall into one of those two categories, you should likely be going to CJs, not BATS). But if you are a white westerner or asian, 2.5 is too much currently at BATS.
I think rules have changed. I have not hit that point there recently. Several years ago, additional pages were no longer free so I just go a new one for the sake of convenience.You are correct. I used to do it all the time, but it's not so easy to get extra pages anymore.
Went to Classic Terminal 2 on 11th and 15th August. Agreed to entry price IDR40,000 and told not charged if take a girl. Confirm prices still IDR365,000 for one girl, one hour and IDR500,000 for two girls, one hour (same as when I visited in October 2017). Arrived about 7. 30 pm both visits, lots of girls, crowded with guys on 11th (Saturday), not many on 15th (Wednesday). Got greedy first visit and took two girls, despite ISG advice not to do so. Paid fee to mamasan then girls took me to a nice room. They told me they were both from Bandung and aged 20 and 21. Stunning slim bodies, flawless brown skin, pretty faces, natural but not much Bush (almost white tigers). No kids, no stretch marks and no breasts (but great nipples). If you want breasts, probably have to go for older with a kid or three Anyway session was uninspiring. Showered with one, pleasant soaping etc, on to bed while the other showered. Used sterile wipes to disinfect my gear then on with a dom for unenthusiastic CBJ. Girls would not play with each other and wanted to get me to f**k, cum and finish ASAP. No kissing, DATY or pussy touching permitted. Managed a couple of positions with one girl only and held on for about 40 minutes before cumming doggy with the other rubbing my balls. Gave them IDR50,000 tip each, seemed happy enough. Second visit much better. Asked mamasan for older girl and she brought 4 girls for me to choose from. All looked great, picked one but would have been happy with any of them. Paid fee to mamasan in advance. This girl also from Bandung (are they all told to give this as their home city?) and said she was 23 (older I suppose than 20 and 21). I allowed her to order a bottle of water. Similar description to previous girls but much better English and very obliging. Went through disinfection routine again (good, safe practice, well trained) but she loved DATY and gave great CBJ. I couldn't hold back for long so f**ked her cowgirl, missionary then doggy to cum. Only about 25 minutes into the hour but already happy with my IDR365 k spend. We lay down for a rest, cuddled and she then stroked me and got me aroused again. I said I would like to try to cum again and she took on the challenge. We worked away but I eventually accepted it wasn't going to happen within time available (but felt great trying). She got the phone call to end the session, said we had a few more minutes, kept going until the full hour was up. What a great girl, a real gem. Gave her IDR100,000 tip, she seemed happy. No hassles or rip-off attempt when I left T2, no entry charged and just IDR26,000 for water second visit. Great value for money, don't bother with 2 girls and as always it's pot luck on the girl quality.
Stayed both nights at Hotel Classic, basic but very clean, good aircon, wifi and shower, excellent value, highly recommended. Left Jakarta the day before Independence Day (17th) and start of Asian Games (18th games commencing 18-8-18).
IMHO, it is more dangerous in Mexico. I am always amazed that people still drive across the border in their cars when reading the border town forums. Most are astute enough to park and walk across. I would much prefer a situation where some greenback would save me from disappearing off the face of the earth.
Being experienced won't help a whole lot. If they pull you over, you are likely going to pay something.
I get shaken down about once a year in Jakarta, so it's not extremely frequent. That still leaves the majority of days not getting shaken down during the year.
Blanquiceleste
09-03-18, 17:26
Holy Jesus. Those girls are not getting that much at BATS these days. Most of them will take 1 million. 1.5 should be the max.
I'd be curious which BATS girl this was. Do you have her name or photo?
Of course it's your money and sometimes when you have your heart set on some chick (and had a few beers), it may seem the prudent course, but giving these girls 2.5 is going to spoil the market. I'd hate for that to become the going rate. A few years ago, girls were asking for that much, but the price has dropped in recent years. An exception may possibly be if you are black or Indian, the girls may raise the price on you at BATS and you have to pay a premium simply because of that (if you fall into one of those two categories, you should likely be going to CJs, not BATS). But if you are a white westerner or asian, 2.5 is too much currently at BATS.I don't take pictures and I cannot remember her name. But I do remember a few white guys hitting on her and then walking away after a few minutes of chit chat. I gather they might have low balled her at the prices you say are standard. I don't give a rats ass about spoiling the market or preserving it. When I want a good time, I get it. That is all that counts for me.
Bring on the flame.
I don't take pictures and I cannot remember her name. But I do remember a few white guys hitting on her and then walking away after a few minutes of chit chat. I gather they might have low balled her at the prices you say are standard. I don't give a rats ass about spoiling the market or preserving it. When I want a good time, I get it. That is all that counts for me.
Bring on the flame.I like and agree with your post. Even if you paid 10 times the "market price" you would not make a difference in the market. You made your money, you spend it how you like.
You are correct. I used to do it all the time, but it's not so easy to get extra pages anymore.Not any more.
https://www.us-passport-service-guide.com/add-pages-to-passport.html
Hi all,
3rd trip to Jakarta this year and have found WeChat a great source for hunting. Due to meetings and sometimes difficulty in getting away for periods of time I've found finding ladies on wechat (using the 'discover near by' function) to be most useful. Have actually managed to get two ladies as freebie (both married but husbands away for long periods of time) and they are home alone in the day so can get away. Average hit rate is 1 in 20 who reply and of those it's easy to filter out those that are available and those that are not. Usually rate if paying has been 500 k for a few hours in hotel.
Also have a regular girl that goes by 'Hijabi working girl' who is great fun. A short 20'something with a regular job that does this on the side for some extra cash.
Stay safe.
I did not search for Indonesia specifically but I did a quick search for Mexico, as that was where I cut my teeth in dealing with corrupt cops outside the US. Search driving the Americas "Dealing with corrupt police".
"We'll walk you through the typical bribery scenario: getting pulled over, description of the (likely) bogus infraction, threat of a multa (fine), request for a bribe, and how you can avoid paying the bribe."
Also under youtube "Mexican police asking for bribery".
IMHO, it helps to remain calm and negotiate an exit with payment if one is prepared and / or experienced.
Being experienced won't help a whole lot. If they pull you over, you are likely going to pay something.
I get shaken down about once a year in Jakarta, so it's not extremely frequent. That still leaves the majority of days not getting shaken down during the year.
AcesWild1917
09-03-18, 21:54
IMHO, it is more dangerous in Mexico. I am always amazed that people still drive across the border in their cars when reading the border town forums. Most are astute enough to park and walk across. I would much prefer a situation where some greenback would save me from disappearing off the face of the earth.When I lived in So California I had business dealings in Tijuana and was there once or twice a week. Never felt threatened in the daytime but there was no way I would leave my car on the street by our fabrica at night.
I had the Sentri pass so could cross with minimum wait and was usually back in the USA by dark.
Smoothy thanks for the update.
Glad to hear that the cop problems in Jakarta are not constant. I will continue with my plans to visit later this year.
When I say remote I mean just a few blocks down from the normal haunts. There is a patch of places near the grand asia hotel which I have always had a good time at the only thing is you kinda need to make it a point to get there as there is really no other reason to go to that area there is also a patch near kings cross but I've heard from more than 1 indonesian who lives in Jakarta that for some reason east Jakarta is more rough than the rest of the city I don't know if there is any validility to this statement. Honestly almost every single cultasack in Jakarta has massage places or bording houses in it, it is just a matter of physcialy going there and looking at their girls.
When I say build a network I mean the mama san network. I give them a 50 k note and tell them more is on the way if they pass me some solid intel. And also give my wechat or what's app out to the boarding houses and if they have any lookers to send me a picture it kind of cuts down on the time I spend in some areas if I always have an agent working for me in that area. I also ask them if the shops are open or closed or if they are busy or not. Sometimes these massage places are randomly closed for a few days and I have no idea why. I do also ask for non pros from the girls I find on wechat its kind of hit and miss most of the time the wechat girl is the good looking one. Sometimes the girls will fire back with "you don't like me?" which can be kind of a non starter.Interesting. I'll have to venture farther north to that area next time and take a look around. This time was pretty short so I only stopped by Malio one night and Travel one night the rest being with civvies.
And I've never considered building a mms network. One of the mms at Travel insisted on giving me her contact for next time, so maybe I'll start there.
Stopped in Jakarta around when the Asian Games were. And it was much much harder to get taxis or grabs than I recall before. Especially around mall closing times, it would be 30+ min to get a grab, and 15+ min for a taxi from the queues, and the My Blue Bird app didn't work at all really from hotel or mall to request taxis. Also many Blue Birds were having issues with their app to get passcode to pay by credit card. Was usually able to get the driver to log out / log in and it would work, or for them to do it from their mobile app, but it was super annoying when last time it would just work.
This trip was much shorter so I only ventured out to Malio and tried out Hotel Travel for the first time (last time it was only Hotel Classic).
Malio, I did not check out the club floor, only the resto and bar area. Looked quickly for my favorite girl from last time, but she's moved on apparently. Not sure if it's true, but new mms said she retired (but I don't think she knew who I was talking about anyway, as all the girls looked new). Walked across the hall, but didn't see anyone worth 1 jt+ in the area with the dance stage, so went back and picked a girl who had a perky slim body and a great smile. She ended up being a great choice. Good enough English, very smiley and accommodating. Tipped a bit more than I should have probably, I think 200 K. (Just checked the box). Next time will do 100 K if that's more in line with the norm. Total damage around 600 k (I didn't order any drinks).
Thought I'd venture a little farther and check out Hotel Travel. Passed by Emporium on the way, I had a great session last time there, but it was definitely on the more expensive side (though with nicer facilities and a pool / sauna to relax in, and I think the girls are of higher standard). Upstairs appears to be private room karaoke only, I got a glimpse when I headed upstairs in the lift (didn't know where I was going haha), girls looked pretty good. But headed downstairs and was directed to enter the area where the pool tables are. Immediately was brought a tall, slim girl by one of the mms. I didn't see too many girls around at that moment, maybe they were all upstairs? Later I would learn that there's a whole other area like the disco area of Hotel Classic, which is deeper inside to the left of the pool tables. Was told the price of 350 K for one 60 min, 500 K for two girls 90 min, and that billiards was also 350 K but for 2 hours. Expensive for pool. Sat and chatted with my girl, she was very fun and affectionate despite not having great English. Liked to sing and dance, but acted shy. She resembles an Indonesian Leslie Bibb. In the room, she allowed DATY and seemed to enjoy it, but CBJ. Many positions for the deed but one thing that was distracting was she was self-conscious about her belly (even though she was super slim, with small As to match which I didn't mind, she appears to have had a baby so it was a little bit loose around the lower belly). She kept covering it with her arms or legs and that was way more distracting than the actual belly LOL. Overall it was a good experience.
The remaining time I had been trying Tinder, WeChat people nearby and this time Tantan. Had the most luck on Tantan, whereas last time I had luck with Tinder. WeChat was only massage and open bo girls who I didn't feel like taking a chance on. Prices quoted were 300 k for massage and 600 k inclusive of sex for outcall. Again, while prices not too bad, no idea if the pictures were accurate.
Ended up having a few dates from Tantan, and could have had more if I was in town longer. All seemed like normal girls, one was 22 from a small town and worked an office type job, and who met me at one of the malls. The first time we met she brought her friend, which I was ok with as I find it helps the "nice" girls feel more comfortable meeting a stranger, even though her friend took a little advantage by ordering a meal when we were meeting for coffee. But the girl I was meeting was so cute, with a very tight slim body and see cups, that I let it slide (it only cost me about 200 K more). We then walked around the mall and window shopped. I had to go for another date, but arranged to meet her again the next evening.
This time, she came out alone, and we had a nice dinner (400 K) and then drinks (300 K), before we headed back to my hotel. I wasn't even sure it would get that far because during dinner, she was preoccupied with her phone-- even took a call at one point (she said it was her mother). And later on during drinks we were very cuddly but she still acted super shy. Up until I got her clothes off. It was totally worth it, her body was amazing, and she had a super cute GND face, which I prefer over the more made-up hardened clubbing girl look. Performance was a little shy but she clearly had a good time, well, at least, I did. She wants to repeat next time I return, anyway.
I don't take pictures and I cannot remember her name. Damn shame for so much money that she wasn't even worthy of getting a number or remembering her name. I often find that a girl will ask more the first time and accept less from then on, so I always get their name and number if they are good.
I've never paid any girl that much in 20 years in Jakarta, so it's definitely not the going rate. I have only had two girls ever even ask me for that much at BATS or CJs. About 10 years ago, I had one ask me for 3 million once at CJs and I did get a good laugh out of that. She went with me for 1 million that night and many nights after that for even as low as 500k. She was a keeper for sure. Her body was as close to a 10 as I have ever had in my life. She ended up marrying a Korean guy. Her name was Putri. The other girl who asked for that much asked me for 2.5 million and she wasn't worth the time even trying to talk her down because she wasn't that hot. It just happened to be a sellers market that night, a real sausage fest. I went elsewhere that night.
I am wondering if perhaps they were asking more due to the Asian games?
When I say remote I mean just a few blocks down from the normal haunts. There is a patch of places near the grand asia hotel which I have always had a good time at the only thing is you kinda need to make it a point to get there as there is really no other reason to go to that area there is also a patch near kings cross but I've heard from more than 1 indonesian who lives in Jakarta that for some reason east Jakarta is more rough than the rest of the city I don't know if there is any validility to this statement. Honestly almost every single cultasack in Jakarta has massage places or bording houses in it, it is just a matter of physcialy going there and looking at their girls.
When I say build a network I mean the mama san network. I give them a 50 k note and tell them more is on the way if they pass me some solid intel. And also give my wechat or what's app out to the boarding houses and if they have any lookers to send me a picture it kind of cuts down on the time I spend in some areas if I always have an agent working for me in that area. I also ask them if the shops are open or closed or if they are busy or not. Sometimes these massage places are randomly closed for a few days and I have no idea why. I do also ask for non pros from the girls I find on wechat its kind of hit and miss most of the time the wechat girl is the good looking one. Sometimes the girls will fire back with "you don't like me?" which can be kind of a non starter.Hi MM, thanks for your very interesting posts, with good info. I'm intrigued by your reference to cheap MPs. I assume you mean panti pijat? I've been mongering in Jakarta for a long time and never really considered such places because I've had the impression they're all full of fat middle-aged Ibus who just give a straight massage. And who'd want to fuck them even if they did offer. Do you mean you can meet some sweet young things who are up for some nice suck and fuck? I had to google Hotel Grand Asia, and it's way outside my usual haunts in central / south Jakarta. When you say "near the grand asia", can you give some more precise directions? Are there any other haunts closer to the central area that you can recommend? Thanks again. Mangga.
I assume you mean panti pijat? I've been mongering in Jakarta for a long time and never really considered such places because I've had the impression they're all full of fat middle-aged IbusIt's a roll of the dice to find out what's inside any of them. Yes, some are just old hags but many are full of kampung princesses.
Generally, the quality of the girls is the exact opposite of the quality of the massage.
Extras are available at the vast majority but some are only on a outcall basis for a 2 HR minimum. Typically zero English is spoken by any of the girls.
If you are out searching for "panti pijat"s keep an eye out for "Kebugaran"s as well. It translates roughly as "place for relaxation" and they live up to their name in all ways 😁.
I am wondering if perhaps they were asking more due to the Asian games?Probably but we are also talking about two totally different protagonists:
In the Red Corner we have someone who is in town for two days, likes this girl to the point of wanting her at nearly any cost and that night is a sellers' market in a bar full of guys hitting on the one girl he likes.
In the Blue Corner our guy is a regular that the girls see all the time, has a contact list full of alternatives that will fit the bill if she doesn't, is cost conscious as he is well aware of local rates and is thinking of repeat prices and is in no hurry as he will still be here next week.
Add in Indonesia's notorious tier pricing for everything for pussy to pancakes and its no surprise Blanq paid more than you would.
He may have been able to get her cheaper but that night he got what he wanted at a price he was prepared to pay with his money. 👍.
Blanquiceleste
09-05-18, 15:46
Damn shame for so much money that she wasn't even worthy of getting a number or remembering her name. I often find that a girl will ask more the first time and accept less from then on, so I always get their name and number if they are good.
I've never paid any girl that much in 20 years in Jakarta, so it's definitely not the going rate. I have only had two girls ever even ask me for that much at BATS or CJs. About 10 years ago, I had one ask me for 3 million once at CJs and I did get a good laugh out of that. She went with me for 1 million that night and many nights after that for even as low as 500k. She was a keeper for sure. Her body was as close to a 10 as I have ever had in my life. She ended up marrying a Korean guy. Her name was Putri. The other girl who asked for that much asked me for 2.5 million and she wasn't worth the time even trying to talk her down because she wasn't that hot. It just happened to be a sellers market that night, a real sausage fest. I went elsewhere that night.
I am wondering if perhaps they were asking more due to the Asian games?I was there before the Games started, so that event influencing prices can be ruled out.
A couple of clarifications:
You live in Indonesia and speak Bahasa fluently (by your own admission). I visit Jakarta perhaps 2 or 3 times a year.
You probably like to repeat girls who are hot in your opinion. I rarely repeat girls, no matter how hot they are. You are assuming that she was not worth remembering because of her looks. Find, fuck, forget is my motto.
And a couple of observations:
10 years ago if you paid 1 mn for a girl at CJ then I wonder if that was a good price. Unless you are saying there is zero inflation in P4 P over the last 10 years. I think not.
If a girl was not hot enough to even negotiate, why would you even ask for a quote? Sour grapes?
As I mentioned before, I liked that girl, she agreed to the price I offered, we both had a great night. Simple.
Rohan Khanna
09-05-18, 18:01
I don't take pictures and I cannot remember her name. But I do remember a few white guys hitting on her and then walking away after a few minutes of chit chat. I gather they might have low balled her at the prices you say are standard. I don't give a rats ass about spoiling the market or preserving it. When I want a good time, I get it. That is all that counts for me.
Bring on the flame.Right thing bro. There are some people on this forum who act more like pimps talking about preserving market rates etc.
And a couple of observations:
10 years ago if you paid 1 mn for a girl at CJ then I wonder if that was a good price. Unless you are saying there is zero inflation in P4 P over the last 10 years. I think not.
If a girl was not hot enough to even negotiate, why would you even ask for a quote? Sour grapes?Ten years ago, the normal price was 1 million. About 5 years ago, it was 1.5 million and some girls asked for 2 million (I am excluding the scrags, I don't count them). I heard rumors (from the girls) of them getting and asking for 2.5 or 3 million, but I had never experienced it. In the last couple of years the going rate has dropped seemingly due to the lack of guys in town with money relative to years past. Almost any BATS girl these days will gladly take 1.5 and most will take 1 million now. Then again, it depends on how they size you up when they talk to you and the supply and demand that particular night. Normally, if I walk into a place like BATS and it's a sausage fest, I leave and head elsewhere before I even finish my drink.
When I spoke with the CJs chick who said 2.5, I didn't like her vibe. She was about a 7 physically, but she had an attitude. Definitely not that hot in my book nor worth the time spent bargaining. I would have given her 1.3 that night based on her looks alone and the lack of girls in the bar, but no way 2.5. On a normal night where it's a buyers market, I wouldn't have given that same girl a second glance. I will say that her English was excellent and pickings were slim so she likely did find a buyer.
You live in Indonesia and speak Bahasa fluently (by your own admission).It's definitely an advantage speaking Indonesian in places like Golden Crown where many of the girls can't speak a word of English, but I don't think speaking Bahasa is much advantage in places like BATS or CJs. Those girls are seasoned pros who can speak English. There are some girls who don't even want to speak with you if you speak bahasa to them there. They want you to be a naive target, not bule basi.
I shouldn't be talking too much about money spent, because I normally buy the girls multiple drinks and those are expensive. However, I don't want to be paying 2.5 million after buying them 4 or 5 drinks. These girls never even consider the number of drinks you bought them when they ask for money.
Right thing bro. There are some people on this forum who act more like pimps talking about preserving market rates etc.A pimp would want the market rate to go up, not down.
It's a roll of the dice to find out what's inside any of them. Yes, some are just old hags but many are full of kampung princesses.
Generally, the quality of the girls is the exact opposite of the quality of the massage.
Extras are available at the vast majority but some are only on a outcall basis for a 2 HR minimum. Typically zero English is spoken by any of the girls.
If you are out searching for "panti pijat"s keep an eye out for "Kebugaran"s as well. It translates roughly as "place for relaxation" and they live up to their name in all ways 😁.Thanks for those notes Goferring. Zero English is a big plus for me because I speak fluent Indonesian and that eliminates any bule competition. Though I suspect that in this corner of the market there aren't too many bule buyers! And a 2 hour outcall is just what I'm looking for. I'm over rolling around on some dirty mattress in a hotbox. Do you have any favoured places in central Jakarta?
Fast Eddie 48
09-06-18, 02:19
I think rules have changed. I have not hit that point there recently. Several years ago, additional pages were no longer free so I just go a new one for the sake of convenience.To Wimble.
I just renew my US passport instruct them to added more pages and they did it no fee, I added pages on my old passport 2 yr ago at the US consulate in Hong Kong they did it in 3 HR at no charge not sure where did you go to where they charge you most advanced country is now using the RFID chip to scan US passport.
Don't use stamp anymore.
Fast Eddie 48.
Blanquiceleste
09-06-18, 02:19
A pimp would want the market rate to go up, not down.This point I second whole-heartedly. Simply business logic.
I shouldn't be talking too much about money spent, because I normally buy the girls multiple drinks and those are expensive. However, I don't want to be paying 2.5 million after buying them 4 or 5 drinks. These girls never even consider the number of drinks you bought them when they ask for money.Hmm. I don't bother with all that. I find my quarry, wait for the right moment, take aim and shoot. At a place like BATS 4-5 drinks alone could add up to another 750 K. And frankly, the girl should not be caring about the number of drinks you buy for her. All she should be concerned about is the number of red notes she gets from you.
Ten years ago, the normal price was 1 million. About 5 years ago, it was 1.5 million and some girls asked for 2 million (I am excluding the scrags, I don't count them). I heard rumors (from the girls) of them getting and asking for 2.5 or 3 million, but I had never experienced it. In the last couple of years the going rate has dropped seemingly due to the lack of guys in town with money relative to years past. Almost any BATS girl these days will gladly take 1.5 and most will take 1 million now. Then again, it depends on how they size you up when they talk to you and the supply and demand that particular night. Normally, if I walk into a place like BATS and it's a sausage fest, I leave and head elsewhere before I even finish my drink.I find this logic hard to accept, as it goes against basic principle of economics. But you live there and that counts for something. So I won't argue.
When I spoke with the CJs chick who said 2.5, I didn't like her vibe. She was about a 7 physically, but she had an attitude. Definitely not that hot in my book nor worth the time spent bargaining. I would have given her 1.3 that night based on her looks alone and the lack of girls in the bar, but no way 2.5. On a normal night where it's a buyers market, I wouldn't have given that same girl a second glance. I will say that her English was excellent and pickings were slim so she likely did find a buyer.Yada yada yada. Come on now. We are all adults here.
Yada yada yada. Come on now. We are all adults here.After that comment, I'm starting to wonder.
My bet is that there isn't an adult guy on this forum who hasn't changed his mind on a girl based on an initial discussion with her. Especially when they try to overvalue themselves right off the bat.
Thanks for those notes Goferring. Zero English is a big plus for me because I speak fluent Indonesian and that eliminates any bule competition. Though I suspect that in this corner of the market there aren't too many bule buyers! And a 2 hour outcall is just what I'm looking for. I'm over rolling around on some dirty mattress in a hotbox. Do you have any favoured places in central Jakarta?You're right, they don't see too many bules so you may find some are fairly timid towards strangers. Making it obvious you can speak BI to them helps settle the nerves somewhat but some still may refuse to go with a foreigner.
I'm no longer a Jakarta resident so can't help with exact locations. If you have time on your side and aren't afraid of the less travelled areas just look for the areas with two or three storey ruko / rukans. Generally one of them is a ++ place where you can just walk inside and see the girls milling around the front office or reception area. If you don't see what you want either leave or ask of they have any one who fits your requirements.
FE, FYI from the HK website today September 6, 2018.
"Adding Pages: Effective January 1, 2016, Extra Visa Pages are no Longer Issued. As of January 1, 2016, the USA Department of State no longer adds visa pages into USA Passports. Previously, USA Passport holders had the option to pay for the insertion of additional 24-page visa inserts when valid passports lacked adequate space for entry or exit visa stamps. The decision to discontinue this service was made to enhance the security of the passport and to abide by international passport standards.
To mitigate the impact on frequent travelers, the Department began issuing 52-page passports to all applicants outside the United States starting October 1, 2014 for no additional cost. Applicants within the United States may choose a 28-page or 52-page book.
Requests for additional 24-page visa inserts will only be accepted until December 31, 2015. Beginning January 1, 2016, applicants in need of additional pages in their valid passports must obtain a new passport."
Before there was something like 60 or 80 charge for pages. And before that, pages were free. Used to have way more free pages than original pages.
To Wimble.
I just renew my US passport instruct them to added more pages and they did it no fee, I added pages on my old passport 2 yr ago at the US consulate in Hong Kong they did it in 3 HR at no charge not sure where did you go to where they charge you most advanced country is now using the RFID chip to scan US passport.
Don't use stamp anymore.
Fast Eddie 48.
I think rules have changed. I have not hit that point there recently. Several years ago, additional pages were no longer free so I just got a new one for the sake of convenience.
Some are eager to learn English. I have had luck with some who would come and we usually communicate via text. It can lead to some interesting mistakes. One brought her virgin cousin because of a misunderstanding.
You're right, they don't see too many bules so you may find some are fairly timid towards strangers. Making it obvious you can speak BI to them helps settle the nerves somewhat but some still may refuse to go with a foreigner.
Toptraveler1
09-06-18, 14:18
Can someone help me with the choice of these places?
- Which one is the best choice in term of number / beauty of the girls?
- Is there any taking out options?
- What is the difference with Alexis as it is the only place I know well in Jakarta?
- And the main question is where we can find young girls if the price isn't an issue in Jakarta?
Thank you.
Blanquiceleste
09-06-18, 14:51
After that comment, I'm starting to wonder.
My bet is that there isn't an adult guy on this forum who hasn't changed his mind on a girl based on an initial discussion with her. Especially when they try to overvalue themselves right off the bat.That comment was not for changing your mind. Never mind.
Rohan Khanna
09-06-18, 16:12
My first couple of days in Jakarta have been quite eventful. The number of tinder likes have been crazy, which is very surprising for me as back home in Mumbai, my luck with tinder has been fairly limited. Last 4-5 months with tinder has helped me get laid only thrice in Mumbai, while within first 24 hours in Jakarta, it happened twice. First chick in 20's came down in the evening, the plan was to go to Starbucks. I jokingly suggested to her to have coffee in my room instead and she like agreed readily. Had a couple of fantastic hours with her, she was wild in the bed. Slept for a while, woke up at 9 pm, started tinder chatting with another one, she was less than a mile away from my hotel. At 11 pm she was at my hotel, picked her up from lobby and another couple of good hours in my room. Never in my life before I had sex 4 times in 6 hours with 2 different hot women and I didn't have to shell out a single dime. Its my first time in Jakarta and I had no clue it was this easy to have ONS in here.
Anyway, yday night went to BATS, liked one chick. She quoted 1 mn for the night, I was not in mood for all night bang so proposed her 700 k for 1 shot, which she happily agreed to. My hotel is 5 minutes from Shangri la, we drove to my hotel in her car. Had a good time overall. Not sure wot to do tonight but seems like Jakarta is one of the best mongering places.
OK, second attempt to post a reply. As of today September 7, 2018 and on the US consulate website in Hong Kong, as per your source. As on January 1, 2016 they stopped issuing additional passport pages. You can go there to get more information. Tired of cutting and pasting.
I remember before then, there was a charge of 60 or 80 bucks. And before that it was free. Google is your friend.
To Wimble.
I just renew my US passport instruct them to added more pages and they did it no fee, I added pages on my old passport 2 yr ago at the US consulate in Hong Kong they did it in 3 HR at no charge not sure where did you go to where they charge you most advanced country is now using the RFID chip to scan US passport.
Don't use stamp anymore.
Fast Eddie 48.
I think rules have changed. I have not hit that point there recently. Several years ago, additional pages were no longer free so I just go a new one for the sake of convenience.
Hi guys,
Anyone ever tried the Gives massage place? There is one opposite the Gandaria Mall. Always seems busy with lots of motor bikes outside.
Thanks.
Some are eager to learn English..
It can lead to some interesting mistakes. One brought her virgin cousin because of a misunderstanding.Hahaha. Sure can.
Try telling a stunner that she is very photogenic and then translating that as her photo is nice but she's ugly in person. 😁.
Not surprisingly that was a very lonely night.
Anyway, yday night went to BATS, liked one chick. She quoted 1 mn for the night, I was not in mood for all night bang so proposed her 700 k for 1 shot, which she happily agreed to. That may have been the same girl the other guy gave 2 and half million rupiah.
OK, second attempt to post a reply. As of today September 7, 2018 and on the US consulate website in Hong Kong, as per your source. As on January 1, 2016 they stopped issuing additional passport pages. You can go there to get more information. Tired of cutting and pasting.
I remember before then, there was a charge of 60 or 80 bucks. And before that it was free. Google is your friend.You, trying to convince the guy, who thinks that he has a monopoly on wisdom and can't proof anything he claims? ROFLOLMAO!
Well, to be fair, I don't read beyond the first couple pages in these forums. So all the past posts and squabbles are lost to me!! Posting is also tedious because I am moderated so my posts are sometimes dated. LOL.
The passport page information is just dated. I thought important to those of us who travel to our playgrounds to have correct information. I actually thought a senior would have chimed in earlier. The new appointment system is also a PIA. Sometimes, the next appointment is 2-3 weeks away. Another thing to keep tract on the calendar!
You, trying to convince the guy, who thinks that he has a monopoly on wisdom and can't proof anything he claims? ROFLOLMAO!
Did anyone else go to BATS last night? That chick in the red dress standing near the stage all night with her tits half hanging out and the big ass may actually have been worth 2.5. I kept hoping for those tits to slip out of that dress, but they never did. When I first arrived, the talent was weak, but later in the night it was pretty good. I had a girl in tow so it didn't matter either way. I didn't think the band was very good though. That's the first time I have been there since they switched bands. The last one was excellent, this one is meh.
There was an interesting argument between an Indonesian girl and the BATS management outside the front door as we were leaving. I'm not sure what was going on, but she was really going after that manager. Pretty good looking chick who spoke great English. She would have been a top 5 looker in the bar had they let her in. The manager kept telling her "we don't need your money".
Another thing I found entertaining was a couple of guys out front of BATS waiting on a taxi. The one guy was in his 20's and the other in his 30's. Neither had a girl as they were leaving and the guy in his 30's was berating the other guy for not liking any of the girls, telling him he couldn't even get laid in a *****house. I was like that young guy when I first arrived in Jakarta.
TangoTomorrow
09-09-18, 15:34
I've been a regular at Classic for a few months now, and I've developed a short list of my favorites. The ground level is where I frequent the most because the atmosphere is more relaxed, whereas the 2nd level is a bit chaotic and high-pressure from mama sans, but there is a much bigger selection of ladies. For some reason, on the 2nd floor, only the ladies on the right side (when you enter) give BBBJ, whereas on the left I've always been told CBJs by mama sans, so I've only selected ladies on the right side. The top floor is wide and spacious and ladies are easily visible from the tables in one location, rather than scattered in the lower floors.
Anyone care to meetup at Classic one night and share favs? Please PM me.
Charm City Dave
09-09-18, 15:43
Will be spending this winter in Asia and trying to decide the best place to spend the Christmas season. I made the mistake of spending a good part of Ramadan in Jakarta this year and though I found a few winners, it was generally dead. What is Jakarta like last half of December?
I've been a regular at Classic for a few months now, and I've developed a short list of my favorites. The ground level is where I frequent the most because the atmosphere is more relaxed, whereas the 2nd level is a bit chaotic and high-pressure from mama sans, but there is a much bigger selection of ladies. For some reason, on the 2nd floor, only the ladies on the right side (when you enter) give BBBJ, whereas on the left I've always been told CBJs by mama sans, so I've only selected ladies on the right side. The top floor is wide and spacious and ladies are easily visible from the tables in one location, rather than scattered in the lower floors.
Anyone care to meetup at Classic one night and share favs? Please PM me.I don't worry much about "high pressure from the mama sans". They will leave you alone soon enough after you refuse some of their girls. I actually don't mind them bringing girls over. It gives me a chance to look at them standing up. I can always call them back later if I refuse them at first.
However, what I do not like on the 2nd floor is how crowded it is in the evenings and nights. Bunch of locals smoking their lungs out in every cranny of the place. I may venture to the 2nd floor during the day, but I try to avoid it at night. I normally won't even consider going there, hotel travel, penjay, or any of those other cheap venues that are crowded with smokers at night. At night, I agree with you that the ground level at Classic is good because the atmosphere is far superior. Relatively few customers and far less smoke. The girls on the 2nd floor are much better looking, but it's pretty easy to find at least one doable girl on the ground level. If I go to Classic at night, I hit the ground level and if I don't see anything I like, I normally leave and go elsewhere rather than going up to the 2nd level. That's also the reason why I like Kings Cross. Kings Cross charges a decent cover so cheap ass locals who like to hang out and chain smoke aren't cramming the place to capacity with smoke. Malioboro is also a good environment, but it can be pricey. There are few places in North Jakarta that I will visit at night simply because I can't stand being around smokers. I think Indonesia is probably 2nd in the world as far as percentage of population who smoke (behind China).
The one exception to the smoker rule I will make is when visiting Blok M. My Bar is a horrible hell hole of a smoker pit with terrible ventilation. But when it's 4 am and nothing else is available as an option, I will go there on occasion.
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There are few places in North Jakarta that I will visit at night simply because I can't stand being around smokers. I think Indonesia is probably 2nd in the world as far as percentage of population who smoke (behind China).
<snip> I am a non-smoker and have the same problem with secondary cigarette smoke. I am surprised that high end places are not smoke free.
I guess the concept of not smoking indoors does NOT exist in Jakarta?
BKKguru.
Off late been itching (metaphorically speaking of course!) to try something different rather than the usual haunts of. Malio, metropolis, kimochi etc. So decided to try my luck on cityxguide. If you type it on google you'll know what it is. So here are the reviews.
1. Calls herself Mariana, numbers ending 0488. Pictures on the website are false, she's got a big belly, fat ass a complete BBW. But I am not into those body-types. Boobs are fake and the doctor hasnt done a good job (ofcourse, Indonesian).
2. Calls herself Bila. Number ending 0869. A clear case of psychopath. Had one session with her. Was purely average, but then she decided to stalk me over WA. When I blocked one number, she WA me from a different number asking me to meet her again or she'll post pictures of us having sex online from where I stand, my life isn't a bed of roses, so another thorn won't really bleed me dry. Ha ha. Ignored her threat, and after a couple of days, she calmed herself down.
Hope this helps whoever wants to. A) enjoy some disproportionate un-natural tits or b) get stalked by a psychopath.
Ciao.
LB.
Banana Boi
09-12-18, 04:02
For some reason, on the 2nd floor, only the ladies on the right side (when you enter) give BBBJ, whereas on the left I've always been told CBJs by mama sans, so I've only selected ladies on the right side. Interesting conclusion. However, if true then chemistry must have something to do with it since I have received BBBJ from girls on the left side when I enter. I never ask the mamasan beforehand since the cost is minimal in Classic.
I don't worry much about "high pressure from the mama sans". They will leave you alone soon enough after you refuse some of their girls. I actually don't mind them bringing girls over. It gives me a chance to look at them standing up. I can always call them back later if I refuse them at first.Agree. I remember my very first visit to Classic and I was annoyed at the aggressive mamasans, especially the one who followed me to the washroom and was still waiting at the door for me after I took a p1 ss. Ever since then they do not bother me especially now that many of them know me. They can be useful if you use them to your advantage.
- What is the difference with Alexis as it is the only place I know well in Jakarta?They're open. The King's Cross komplek is pretty good. I'd go more often if Kelapa Gading were not so far but at night traffic isn't too bad.
So I went to Classic today, however the spa was level below ground, not Level 2 or Level 5 as I have read in reports here. There were about 15-20 chicks, all average (ones you will find at a local kimochi or zaigon spa).
Further, I paid a bomb (900,000 including a VIP room) and 300,000 as tip to the girl (2 rounds). Girl was nice, name was Yunita, pussy was a bit smelly but made up for enthusiasm and great FK.
So am I missing something here? Because this is definitely not cheap.
So I went to Classic today, however the spa was level below ground, not Level 2 or Level 5 as I have read in reports here. There were about 15-20 chicks, all average (ones you will find at a local kimochi or zaigon spa).
Further, I paid a bomb (900,000 including a VIP room) and 300,000 as tip to the girl (2 rounds). Girl was nice, name was Yunita, pussy was a bit smelly but made up for enthusiasm and great FK.
So am I missing something here? Because this is definitely not cheap.People seldom mention that one. But yes, there is a massage place below ground level. It's more expensive than the other levels, but you can get an actual massage there and there are gems there on occasion. For some reason, the girls there are also consistently a better shag than on the other levels.
KilledSoul
09-14-18, 01:10
Hope this helps whoever wants to. A) enjoy some disproportionate un-natural tits or b) get stalked by a psychopath.
Ciao.
LB.Lo, an interesting reportl! Do you need Bahasa to contact them?
Banana Boi
09-14-18, 03:18
People seldom mention that one. But yes, there is a massage place below ground level. It's more expensive than the other levels, but you can get an actual massage there and there are gems there on occasion. For some reason, the girls there are also consistently a better shag than on the other levels.I have seen a couple of very nice girls in Classic Spa. Yes the prices are 800 or 900 k but I believe that it supposed to be for 90 minutes if I'm not mistaken. Not many girls but overall the quality is a better than upstairs.
Blanquiceleste
09-14-18, 06:03
Interesting conclusion. However, if true then chemistry must have something to do with it since I have received BBBJ from girls on the left side when I enter. I never ask the mamasan beforehand since the cost is minimal in Classic.
Agree. I remember my very first visit to Classic and I was annoyed at the aggressive mamasans, especially the one who followed me to the washroom and was still waiting at the door for me after I took a p1 ss. Ever since then they do not bother me especially now that many of them know me. They can be useful if you use them to your advantage.
They're open. The King's Cross komplek is pretty good. I'd go more often if Kelapa Gading were not so far but at night traffic isn't too bad.Never had any trouble with girls at Classic. Left or right, they all perform to expectation. Important to clarify beforehand. The mamsans can be annoying, but that is their job. Ignore them or tell them assertively that you will let them know when you need their help and you need some space for the time being.
I love the Kelapa Gading spa setups. But it is quite a distance. I have often considered staying in that area, but then you are cut off from other places.
Blanquiceleste
09-14-18, 06:06
I have seen a couple of very nice girls in Classic Spa. Yes the prices are 800 or 900 k but I believe that it supposed to be for 90 minutes if I'm not mistaken. Not many girls but overall the quality is a better than upstairs.I can't say from my experience that the girls in the Classic spa are better that the ones on L5. Finally it is all upto the monger. What is the right price, which girl is hot, what constitutes good service, etc. No objective way to compare.
Lo, an interesting reportl! Do you need Bahasa to contact them?Thanks Soul. No, they are fairly equipped on English ('fairly' as per Indo standards).
Interesting conclusion. However, if true then chemistry must have something to do with it since I have received BBBJ from girls on the left side when I enter. I never ask the mamasan beforehand since the cost is minimal in Classic.When the chemistry is right you can get bareback full service at Classic too, and Kings Cross, and even Alexa.
Kamsutra69
09-14-18, 19:37
Excited about my maiden trip to Jakarta in October. I have been a regular to Pattaya. But this time I thought I will explore a new territory. I have booked myself in Orchardz Hotel Industri. Having read that they have room service. This forum has been extremely useful. I will appreciate any more tips from the regulars.
Happy mongering!
I have booked myself in Orchardz Hotel Industri. Having read that they have room service.In my opinion, you would be a fool to have those girls come to your room. It's the same price to walk 2 minutes to the hotel spa, and the spa has all the facilities including sauna, jacuzzi, steam room, etc. And the rooms at the spa have mirrors on all walls and the ceiling. Also, if the girl is not to your liking, it's much easier to refuse and replace her inside the spa than if she comes to your room.
You can have massage girls come to your room in many many hotels in Jakarta (hell, almost all of them). If you are going to stay at a hotel like Orchardz that actually has a popular spa connected to it, it seems a waste to have them come to your room.
Like others here, I'm a connoisseur. Some focus on erotic photographic escapades, like Asian Rain and Dorman; others relate an amazing breath of experiences and encounters, like Offshore Swell and Smoothy and Montana). As for me, these days, I find myself exploring the world of spas and so I've become a connoisseur. Of pricey handjobs.
Cut me some slack. I have a history of posting rambling reports that show I really just like getting out of the house more than I do a serious, mission-oriented approach to our hobby. Anyway, since my transition from "mas" to "om", I am done with a regular diet of fast food. Sure, I will have a Big Mac from time to time, but more often than not I regret going to MacDonald's in the first place. What I really look forward to is a fine meal. The same holds true for my massage experiences.
These days, I spoil myself with a man's day out. A shoeshine at the little stand under the Fairmont Hotel, then a haircut and a head massage from a barber (not a stylist) at Paxi (now Premier), followed by a full massage at Mitra Sehat (which has many happy ending and plus plus opportunities, which is a story for another day).
However, I end my man-about-town days at Grand Imperial on Jl. Wijaya I. I've spent four, five, even seven hours there (which is almost as much time you'll spend reading this report).
The Venue: Grand Imperial is an Asian style spa, open early, around 11 am or 1 pm, and catering predominately to Japanese and Koreans, with a smattering of Javanese and Western dudes. It is a genteel, polite and low key. Next door is a Korean restaurant. Across the street, there's an upscale bakery. It's the proverbial clean, well-lighted place.
Enter: Approach the reception podium and the ladies will give you a menu, but don't fuss about it until later, after you're inside. These gals handle payments and will give you a number to wear on your wrist.
Layout: The locker room is immediately to the right. It is smaller than the one at Classic Spa but larger than the one at Kimochi. It's clean, clean, clean and your number is a keycard that opens your locker. How technologically savvy! Times are changing! There are two small rooms off of the lockers to be used as private changing areas, although one is now a musholla. Times are changing! Put on the pair of shorts you're given. If you wish, give the locker attendant lad your shoes to be polished (and tip him Rp 20,000 or whatever when you leave).
Immediately outside the locker is the booking counter, although I usually walk straight to the showers first, then to the large, heated pool for a soak, then to the sauna, then to the steam room. I grab cold towels from the freezer. The pool is at the center of the large room. It's ringed by a bunch of tables and then the sauna, steam room, showers and scrub rooms. I spend about an hour soaking and sweating, etc. When I am ready, I approach the booking counter. There you can look at the menu of services. The full package runs between Rp 475,000 and Rp 575,000, depending on the size of the room you choose. For that you get free use of the spa and sauna, an hour-long scrub and a 90-minute massage that culminates in a "happy ending", automatically and without asking.
Yes, it's expensive for what you get.
Yes, you can go the full magilla for less.
Yes, some people don't like striding around in towels.
Yes, this is aimed at Koreans and Japanese, who appreciate the quality of the experience.
I do, too, and don't feel it's overpriced.
I typically get the paket with the scrub and maasage (see pic).
Choosing girls: You don't get to see the girls before choosing, although the attendants, in their tight batik dresses, will do their best to find a therapist that meets your desires. Apparently, there are therapists, who give the full 90-minute massage, and boom-boom girls, who just give a few tweaks and then a 20-minute wham-bam. I've always asked for a good massage, and have always gotten a winner. On all fronts. Don't be shy. The booking girls know why you're there and are eager to help.
You'll have to wait for the therapist a few minutes. I like to wait upstairs, in the dark second level (see pics). There's a bunch of leather sofas by the stairway leading to the third floor, where the girls hang out, so I can scope the ladies in their super-short skirt uniforms and high heels tottering up and down stairs. Your girl comes to greet you and takes you to one of the curtained tatami massage rooms. The ladies I have met are between 21 and 28, all sexy or beautiful, in their own way. There are ones with bathtubs, but I usually take the smaller rooms that are farther from the street. Inside the room, she'll take your clothes off an start the massage.
No one really speaks English there, so Indonesian helps. The massage is serious, including shiatsu and oil, and they're not shy about getting you excited. I remember one girl who would massage my legs, facing my feet, hiking her skirt up over her white panties. Another very bosomy girl kept popping out of her too-tight uniform shirt. By the end of the massage, she'll start with the included happy ending. Typically, this involves hoisting your legs over hers as she squats between your legs. It gives her good access to you, above and below, but pins you down.
You can shift position, though. I've discovered that a tip will get her shirt off. Or whole kit off. Or even more. The massage girls don't **have** to do anything more than a HJ, but a little cash and a pleasant attitude can get you the world. The girls have generally been amenable to whatever I suggested and aren't too stressed by playful lust-driven pawing. ("You're a man, you're getting massaged. It's normal," said one girl). I typically extend for a third session (for Rp 150,000) so as not to rush this.
OK, so you've got your happy ending after maybe two-and-a-half or three hours. But wait, there's more! Now get your scrub! Or first order some food and eat your friend rice gangster yakuza style, in your robe and slippers, sitting on the leather sofas on level two.
The scrub rooms are down on the first floor. They're small and have a bunch of steel hoses and a therapy table. Lighting is dim. Your scrub therapist meets you at the door, tells you to take off your clothes and sit face up on the table. Face up! The women who work there are generally older, though. This is where massage therapists have their old timers day, I guess. And by that I mean over 30. They will give you a scrub for an hour that leaves you exfoliated. You'll get washed down five times, with oil, lotion, soap and milk. There's an optional cooling cucumber mask. Some tell you quite clearly scrub only. Some will offer happy endings, boobs to be squeezed and even more. I know some folks do the scrub first and then the massage, but I have learned to go massage then scrub, as it takes off all the massage oil and I leave feeling fresh.
Tipping: You can bring cash or tell the girls how much you will leave as a tip when you check out. Scrub women get Rp 50,000 from me, the massage therapists get much more. I have no idea what's standard as I am a poor negotiator, so have paid anywhere from Rp 300,000 for kit off to much more for the whole enchilada, maybe Rp 700,000.
Fun Fact: Apparently there's a senior police officer who frequents GI and serves as its guardian angel. They get free beer and food and massages, but tip well, according to one of the girls.
There you go. People say there's nothing to do in Jakarta in the daytime.
Au contraire, I say. Au contraire.
Crocodilexp
09-15-18, 23:45
I've been a regular at Classic... The ground level is where I frequent the mostWhat are the prices on the ground level of Classic? Are they similar to L2 and L5 prices (about 400 k IDR)?
Grand ImperialI haven't tried grand imperial yet, but I've tried every other place in Grand Wijaya center. Similar experiences. I think the best is D'Heaven. I'll give Grand Imperial a try, maybe even today.
I recommended D'Heaven to a friend once and he ended up going there at 4 or 5pm (rush hour since everyone is just getting off work). Every girl was busy and not available for an hour, so he got pissed off and went to Hotel Classic way across town during rush hour traffic. Lucky for him, the traffic wasn't too bad that day because that trip could have taken 2 hours. There is no way I would go to any massage place in the city where you can actually get a massage at 5pm. But I have worked in Jakarta, so I know that many guys go for a massage after work. Those who haven't worked in Asia may not know that.
What are the prices on the ground level of Classic? Are they similar to L2 and L5 prices (about 400 k IDR)?The ground level is slightly cheaper. I think it's probably the cheapest place in Jakarta that isn't a shanty.
Blanquiceleste
09-16-18, 04:15
There you go. People say there's nothing to do in Jakarta in the daytime.
Au contraire, I say. Au contraire.Best report of this month. A refreshing change from the complaints about prices, attitudes, service quality and blue pills.
The ground level is slightly cheaper. I think it's probably the cheapest place in Jakarta that isn't a shanty.I've never been in to the ground floor. Where is the entrance? I usually just go up the escalators. You say it's very cheap and I believe you, but two others in this thread say it's 900,000 which isn't cheap at all. What gives? Thanks.
Kamsutra69
09-16-18, 09:57
In my opinion, you would be a fool to have those girls come to your room. It's the same price to walk 2 minutes to the hotel spa, and the spa has all the facilities including sauna, jacuzzi, steam room, etc. And the rooms at the spa have mirrors on all walls and the ceiling. Also, if the girl is not to your liking, it's much easier to refuse and replace her inside the spa than if she comes to your room.
You can have massage girls come to your room in many many hotels in Jakarta (hell, almost all of them). If you are going to stay at a hotel like Orchardz that actually has a popular spa connected to it, it seems a waste to have them come to your room.Copy that. Thanks for the tip.
I've never been in to the ground floor. Where is the entrance? I usually just go up the escalators. You say it's very cheap and I believe you, but two others in this thread say it's 900,000 which isn't cheap at all. What gives? Thanks.The basement level is 900,000, not the ground floor. I'm not sure how you could miss the entrance to the ground floor club if you take the escalators. It is just to the right of the up escalator. It opens later than the other floors and has a cover charge. If you are a westerner, they will not make you pay the cover charge when you leave even if you didn't buy anything. But locals and indians do get charged the cover regardless I believe. I think the cover is 50,000.
The basement level is 900,000, not the ground floor. I'm not sure how you could miss the entrance to the ground floor club if you take the escalators. It is just to the right of the up escalator. It opens later than the other floors and has a cover charge. If you are a westerner, they will not make you pay the cover charge when you leave even if you didn't buy anything. But locals and indians do get charged the cover regardless I believe. I think the cover is 50,000.Wow, so there are four floors. I had no idea. I only knew 2 and 5. I didn't see anything on the ground floor but I wasn't exactly looking either. Excuse my ignorance. Some of these places are huge with multiple floors. There are no signs and no one has ever guided me around. I was at King Cross twice before I realized there were more girls upstairs! Would be happy to buy a drink next time in Jakarta. Thanks.
Blanquiceleste
09-16-18, 16:11
Wow, so there are four floors. I had no idea. I only knew 2 and 5. I didn't see anything on the ground floor but I wasn't exactly looking either. Excuse my ignorance. Some of these places are huge with multiple floors. There are no signs and no one has ever guided me around. I was at King Cross twice before I realized there were more girls upstairs! Would be happy to buy a drink next time in Jakarta. Thanks.At King Cross the space you refer to as upstairs is the massage and theater space. Usually there are no more than 4 to 6 massage girls. In my experience, they are not as doable as their kin on the ground floor, laden over those three step amphitheater style seating, or dancing around those poles on the raised stages.
The thing that bothers me most at KC is the laid back attitude of the waiters / mami / papi. You can sit there for an hour and no one will bother you for even a drink. In a way that is not such a bad thing.
IllusionHeart
09-22-18, 12:55
At King Cross the space you refer to as upstairs is the massage and theater space. Usually there are no more than 4 to 6 massage girls. In my experience, they are not as doable as their kin on the ground floor, laden over those three step amphitheater style seating, or dancing around those poles on the raised stages.
The thing that bothers me most at KC is the laid back attitude of the waiters / mami / papi. You can sit there for an hour and no one will bother you for even a drink. In a way that is not such a bad thing.KC seems to have gone downhill now. Last visit the 2nd floor had almost 10 to 15 massage girls. Had picked one who gave me a good massage for an hour and a decent pop. This visit the massage section was empty. When I was sitting down in the ground floor area one of the mamasan got around 4 or 5 girls when asked. I did have a good session with one including a very good massage.
The ground floor area had girls on both ends, approx 30 to 40 each side. This trip they had approx 20 odd girls on both visit and one section has also been closed. I had two sessions on earlier visit but this trip I was struggling to find one girl to my liking. The Mama and Papasan were the most lethargic I have seen in any club in Jakarta except Kota Indah bars. Don't see bright future for this place keeping in mind the competition around.
KC seems to have gone downhill now. Last visit the 2nd floor had almost 10 to 15 massage girls. Had picked one who gave me a good massage for an hour and a decent pop. This visit the massage section was empty. When I was sitting down in the ground floor area one of the mamasan got around 4 or 5 girls when asked. I did have a good session with one including a very good massage.
The ground floor area had girls on both ends, approx 30 to 40 each side. This trip they had approx 20 odd girls on both visit and one section has also been closed. I had two sessions on earlier visit but this trip I was struggling to find one girl to my liking. The Mama and Papasan were the most lethargic I have seen in any club in Jakarta except Kota Indah bars. Don't see bright future for this place keeping in mind the competition around.I was there sometime in August and I have to absolutely agree. I was lucky in that they did have a few odd girls around on the first floor for 350 K and I did find one with a huge set to my liking with almost great service. I felt they were trying to save on electricity as the room was rather on the warm side. First time I had a papasan ask me for a tip on the fantastic choice I made. I'm thinking the ongoing road construction in the area is having an affect on business.
I did find one with a huge set to my liking with almost great service. Other than it charging a cover that keeps out the local low life's, that's the advantage of Kings Cross. It's easy to find busty girls there, and I have never even once had anything other than great service at KC. Compare that to a place like Hotel Classic where you find great service maybe 1 time in 100.
I enjoy Delta Spa and My Place but the prices seem much too high for just L-1 finish. I do enjoy the sauna and the real massage. What are better options for legit massage with extras?
Thank you for any info. I'll be staying at Four Points Hotel.
I do enjoy the sauna and the real massage. What are better options for legit massage with extras?.Similarly looking for somewhere between the Bangkok Oily / Soapy massage and Hotel Classic / Travel zero massage places. Any suggestions?
Just dropping to say Hi to all especially Bulai69 & others seniors of the thread.
Posting photo's of those girls can ruin their lives if the poster is not careful. Remember, most of the girls at Starmoon aren't there because they like sex that much they just want to have it all day. They are there because some recruiter offered to generously lend her money to buy Mum and dad a place to live / mums dialysis / younger sister's school fees / hospital fees etc etc.I think it's ok as long as you don't post photos of their faces and post photos you actually took yourself. Especially avoid posting photos that they will have used in their social media accounts with their friends and family. Claiming the photo came from a deskgram account from some other guy (who obviously took it from her social media or whatsapp profile) is no excuse. You should only be posting photos you took yourself or photos from the official pages of the places. Referring to them by their real name is also a no go, but they never give their real names when they work anyway, so if they claim to be named Nanda, that's fine. The best thing is to simply say she is number 88. However, posting an actual photo that you didn't take yourself that they have obviously used in their social media is crossing the line.
Just dropping to say Hi to all especially Bulai69 & others seniors of the thread.Welcome back, bro! Nice to see you again. It must have been years, because the legendary Bulai69 has stopped posting for many years.
Thanks for the info although I know he still goes to Jakarta. Take care. I only monger in KL now as I can't travel due to my health.
Welcome back, bro! Nice to see you again. It must have been years, because the legendary Bulai69 has stopped posting for many years..
Or maybe a bit longer. From UK, 60-ish. Happy to buy a beer or two for any of the regular posters on this forum. Feel free to PM.
YetAnotherGuy
10-02-18, 22:48
A few information tidbits that I find troubling. Christina was new to the game and barely over a month under their employment. Already, she was indebted to the company as soon as she started work. Like all profit maximizing corporation with no moral compass, they would squeeze every last pennies or rupiah in this case on these girls. They would charge an exorbitant amount on the dresses they are required to wear. They require that these girls live in their dorm which is conveniently located behind 1001 building, and of course charge them for everything. They would charge them for the hair stylist and makeup work that they have to have daily before work. They would charge them for the mandatory regular doctor inspections. The girls cannot leave the dorm while working there except during their off days. Their workday is a 12-hour shift and they have a daily target of hitting four vouchers. A voucher is an hour session and cost 1. 1 million each. I would ask how often does she meet her target, and she mentioned hardly ever. In fact, that day I was her first client and it was already nighttime. The spa girls would earn only a third of the voucher value which is something like 370 K and will only be disbursed to the after the month is over. No wonder these girls have to depend heavily on tips provided by their clients.Do you know if she gets the entire tip if you markthe tip on the sheet they give you and pay it at the end (to the cashier)? Or is it better to give her the tip in cash?
Ggekko2009
10-03-18, 01:55
Do you know if she gets the entire tip if you markthe tip on the sheet they give you and pay it at the end (to the cashier)? Or is it better to give her the tip in cash?If you want her to get the tip, just give it to her directly. If you do not bring along any cash into the room, you can tell her to follow you to the locker room after the service and she will be more than happy to oblige.
I would not trust the company to give the money to her. Even if they do, they would only disburse it at the end of the month or whenever their pay period is. In fact, I have known that some establishments even keep those service fees for themselves that are in your bill. Those fees are meant as tips for these workers.
Offshore Swell
10-03-18, 07:40
Do you know if she gets the entire tip if you markthe tip on the sheet they give you and pay it at the end (to the cashier)? Or is it better to give her the tip in cash?You always, always give it to her in cash!
At the heart of Indonesian business culture is the concept of getting something for nothing. Or what we would call "clipping the ticket". Ask any Indonesian housemaid in Singapore or Hong Kong or Indonesian seaman how much of their salary the agent takes and you will likely fall over at the reply. Firstly at the percentage they take but secondly that they would actually sign up to a contract like that. It is pretty much a certainty the house would be salivating at the thought of this "free" money that had been entrusted to them to give to your girl and have a range of "fees" ready to apply to it for their non existent services in getting it to her.
In countries like America or Australia when somebody wants to work hard and make something for themselves, everybody supports them. In Indonesia they just try to get as much of your enterprise for themselves whether it's selling your pussy driving a truck or cleaning somebody's house.
Any impact to Jakarta from the earthquake and tsunami?
Any impact to Jakarta from the earthquake and tsunami?No impact.
What time does Classic open? Last 2 times I went, I was told to come back in 2 hours when I arrived around Noon. This was on a Sunday and Monday.
Also, has anyone been to Sagita Spa? After doing some shopping at Plaza Indonesia, I may give it a try. I'd welcome any feedback. I'll post a report and share my experience.
Blanquiceleste
10-05-18, 01:11
Any impact to Jakarta from the earthquake and tsunami?If anything, there will be more girls coming from Sulawesi in the coming days. Natural disasters like these create massive economic chaos for residents who lose almost everything. The government does little to help and people have to turn to unpalatable ways to survive.
Is there a good bar or restaurant to watch UFC 229? Maybe a place near Plaza Indonesia?
Any impact to Jakarta from the earthquake and tsunami?Right after the big unprecedented 2004 tsunami a fresh batch of extasy hit the Jakarta drug market. The pill was blue-couloured and it was called "Tsunami".
Just returned from Sagita Spa at Sagitarius Hotel. The facility had a nice decor. One hot pool and one cold pool. The steam room was broken but the dry sauna was working. I was the only one in the facility.
The massage girl I was assigned was about a 6 but had a fun personality so to me she was a 7+. Massage was nice a strong and she took her time with the HJ finish. Damage was: 440 for standard room, 120 for 2 beers, and 200 tip to the girl.
I was told that the tip to the girls are set. 200 for HJ and 500 for FS. There is no negotiating. Overall, service was nice but the price was bit high. Location is great if you find yourself near Plaza Indonesia.
Some greats of the past appeared again in this thread. Will the legendary Bulai69 and Asian Rain be next? I really do hope so, for several reasons!
I get into Jakarta airport at 10 pm and staying near Classic hotel so is there any place to check out after midnight or is it all closed?
Also is illegals still open, met a nice young honey there last year named Astin.
Some greats of the past appeared again in this thread. Will the legendary Bulai69 and Asian Rain be next? I really do hope so, for several reasons!Long time not been in Jakarta. Last time. 2012 or so.
Me more in P. Burgos (Makati) to be found nowadays.
After the first 3 Grab cars couldn't find me, I knew it'd be a long night. After I finally got picked up at a bar I was driving at, it took over an hour to get to be'Fashion. Went straight to the spa and I was not pleased with the selection of available girls. But since it was such a long journey, I decided to settle on a girl that was like a 6 looks wise. Her service was like a 3. She was lazy with the massage and her BJ was subpar. Total damage was 325 for no and 410 for room and beer. Add 100 for grab and it was money wasted. Took a Gojek to Beer Garden and it only took 10 minutes. Dean 5 pints of beer and feel better. Will go back to Classic tomorrow.
Blanquiceleste
10-07-18, 04:54
I get into Jakarta airport at 10 pm and staying near Classic hotel so is there any place to check out after midnight or is it all closed?
Also is illegals still open, met a nice young honey there last year named Astin.Most places in Jakarta actually get going only around midnight. Don't worry.
Classic and Travel will be open. Almost all the clubs will be open. Blok M is open till very late.
Hey there,
What would you recommendations be for say mid morning / afternoon / early evening? I was looking at malls to mainly focus on maybe some exploring in the evening? But it seems many places don't start happening until late? But I am sure I will find something!
Hey there,
What would you recommendations be for say mid morning / afternoon / early evening? I was looking at malls to mainly focus on maybe some exploring in the evening? But it seems many places don't start happening until late? But I am sure I will find something!There is nothing going on early in Jakarta. I recommend sleeping until 1 or 2 pm, grab some lunch, then head to a place like Hotel Classic around 4 pm. Then again, it does depend where you are staying as far as a place to go because Jakarta is quite spread out. Regardless, I find it easier to just forget about even trying to go anywhere until 4 pm.
There is nothing going on early in Jakarta. I recommend sleeping until 1 or 2 pm, grab some lunch, then head to a place like Hotel Classic around 4 pm. Then again, it does depend where you are staying as far as a place to go because Jakarta is quite spread out. Regardless, I find it easier to just forget about even trying to go anywhere until 4 pm.That's not what I wanted to hear LOL but I'll try succeed early evening, I will stay around Crowne Plaza most likely just reading through the Jakarta hotels so will choose one that's commonly mentioned throughout the Jakarta thread.
Hey there,
What would you recommendations be for say mid morning / afternoon / early evening? I was looking at malls to mainly focus on maybe some exploring in the evening? But it seems many places don't start happening until late? But I am sure I will find something!Kartika full body soapy massage ++ opens about 11:00 AM. Not that far to where you are staying.
The place may not be everyone's idea of "happening" in Jakarta but it's an "experience" one should try at least once. .
Kartika full body soapy massage ++ opens about 11:00 AM. Not that far to where you are staying.
The place may not be everyone's idea of "happening" in Jakarta but it's an "experience" one should try at least once. .I think you might be mistaken. Kartika is up north, while to get to Crowne Plaza hotel you have to head south near cloverleaf Semanggi. During the day it can take ages to get there by taxi. The Transjakarta will be your chosen means of transportation. You may be confused by the hotel with the name Kartika Chandra that is indeed located rather near CP.
Unless, you can get a full body massage ++ in hotel Kartika Chandra as well. In that case, I apologize.
I think you might be mistaken. Kartika is up north, while to get to Crowne Plaza hotel you have to head south near cloverleaf Semanggi. During the day it can take ages to get there by taxi. The Transjakarta will be your chosen means of transportation. You may be confused by the hotel with the name Kartika Chandra that is indeed located rather near CP.
Unless, you can get a full body massage ++ in hotel Kartika Chandra as well. In that case, I apologize.You are correct. I am way off. I was typing before thinking clearly. The Crown I was referring to was the Crown night club!
My bad. Apologies for the error chaps.
Ggekko2009
10-09-18, 23:46
That's not what I wanted to hear LOL but I'll try succeed early evening, I will stay around Crowne Plaza most likely just reading through the Jakarta hotels so will choose one that's commonly mentioned throughout the Jakarta thread.One suggestion is that you may try to stay at Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni located at Jl. Hayam Wuruk. Right across the street is the Malioboro Spa. You don't even need to deal with the horrendous Jakarta traffic since you can just walk across the street or use the pedestrian cross-bridge to get there.
One suggestion is that you may try to stay at Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni located at Jl. Hayam Wuruk. Right across the street is the Malioboro Spa. You don't even need to deal with the horrendous Jakarta traffic since you can just walk across the street or use the pedestrian cross-bridge to get there.Thanks I might go ahead and book that actually! Is that hotel also around like any office or mall areas where I might be able to chat to girls and hopefully see if they want to come to my room.
I will stay around Crowne Plaza most likely just reading through the Jakarta hotels so will choose one that's commonly mentioned throughout the Jakarta thread.Personally, I wouldn't stay at that one. There are much better choices. That hotel is in an area that is not near any of the fun. It is right next to Semanggi Mall, but I think that mall sucks anyway. It depends what type of entertainment you are looking for in town. There are lots of suggestions in the Jakarta hotel thread.
I only monger in KL now as I can't travel due to my health.I hope nothing serious. Me not more longer in Jakarta either, mostly Manila these days!
Happy days to all!
Tommy Suharto
10-11-18, 05:25
That hotel is in an area that is not near any of the fun. It is right next to Semanggi Mall, but I think that mall sucks anyway.Yes, it does. But there is a catholic university next to it, catch my drift. It can be OK for Tinder / internet dates.
But so can Harris or Atlet close to FX Sudirman / Senayan Plaza.
Budget wise, LE Meridien would be in the same ballpark as Crowne, but then again how entertaining is Tiga puluh nowadays?
Way back in (pre-) history the Crowne had a happening night club in its basement. Forgot the name, I think before it changed to "Retro".
Thanks I might go ahead and book that actually! Is that hotel also around like any office or mall areas where I might be able to chat to girls and hopefully see if they want to come to my room.I stayed in the Grande Mecure Jakarta Harmoni last trip and I enjoyed the location. There is a decent mall across the street (walkable via pedestrian overpass) called Gadjah Mada Plaza. I enjoyed exploring and eating there.
It is also walking distance, as noted below, to Hotel Malio. The girls thought it was hilarious that I walked there! I also liked how it was a very short ride to Hotel Classic. It is farther from BATS / CJs, but late at night, after 10 or 11, it didn't add too much to my taxi time.
I am considering staying there again next trip. I used to stay a bit more central or farther south. This was as north as I'd ever stayed. I think it worked well. But it is a Big Durian after all and I am never quite sure how to maximize my location for best results.
Yes, it does. But there is a catholic university next to it, catch my drift.Don't get his hopes up too high. I used to live at the Aryaduta right next to there. I could walk to Mall Semanggi or Atma Jaya University in a couple of minutes. Although I have been with many of the Atma Jaya University girls over the years, I have never picked up even one of them on that campus or at Semanggi mall.
I stayed in the Grande Mecure Jakarta Harmoni last trip and I enjoyed the location.
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I recommend this hotel. Great location in North Jakarta. Did you go to the evening cocktails on the 10th floor in the evenings? Fantastic cocktails, expensive, but great eye candy making them!
Quick report and review:
What a gem to have discovered! Or may be it was a weekday so I got lucky. A total of 4 therapists shown to me, 2 out of which were absolute stunners! Locals, amazing hot bods, super cute looks and willingness to go the extra mile. Total damage was approx 1.3 juta (300 k for the massage and 1 juta to the girl) but totally totally worth it.
SteelBaton
10-12-18, 09:13
If you want to discuss hotels, that's a better place to post. Keep this section about the cewek.
I recommend this hotel. Great location in North Jakarta. Did you go to the evening cocktails on the 10th floor in the evenings? Fantastic cocktails, expensive, but great eye candy making them!
Uncle Volodya
10-14-18, 07:56
I am thinking of doing Jakarta for 2 weeks over Christmas and New Years.
I usually do Pattaya but its just too crowded for me with douchie dudes that time of year. I prefer to hit Patts in the low season.
Is this a good time of year to visit Jakarta. Will girls be around and will venues be open normally?
Many thanks for any info!
Uncle-V.
I am thinking of doing Jakarta for 2 weeks over Christmas and New Years.
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Is this a good time of year to visit Jakarta. Will girls be around and will venues be open normally?
Many thanks for any info!
Uncle-V.Business as usual my friend, business as usual.
Uncle Volodya
10-14-18, 10:22
Business as usual my friend, business as usual.Thanks! That is good news.
I am thinking of doing Jakarta for 2 weeks over Christmas and New Years.
I usually do Pattaya but its just too crowded for me with douchie dudes that time of year. I prefer to hit Patts in the low season.
Is this a good time of year to visit Jakarta. Will girls be around and will venues be open normally?
Many thanks for any info!
Uncle-V.I wouldn't want to be in Pattaya or Bali during Christmas and New Years, but Bangkok and Jakarta are fine. I actually prefer Bangkok over Jakarta during that time period though. It feels more like Christmas in Bangkok than it does in Jakarta and I prefer the New Year's celebrations in Bangkok as well.
What time does Classic open? Last 2 times I went, I was told to come back in 2 hours when I arrived around Noon. This was on a Sunday and Monday.
Also, has anyone been to Sagita Spa? After doing some shopping at Plaza Indonesia, I may give it a try. I'd welcome any feedback. I'll post a report and share my experience.4 pm, some girls come in early to avoid traffic congestion at 1-4 pm.
Hi all,
Visiting Jakarta on 31st. Looking at buying generic CIalis. Its just a Aid / Insurance as I am nearing 40 and lately performance is in diminishing trend. Can you share some specific 3 places in Jakarta where I can get just 2 of them?
That should suffice for the 6 day trip.
OS.
Hi all,
Visiting Jakarta on 31st. Looking at buying generic CIalis. Its just a Aid / Insurance as I am nearing 40 and lately performance is in diminishing trend. Can you share some specific 3 places in Jakarta where I can get just 2 of them?
That should suffice for the 6 day trip.
OS.In which part of Jakarta will you stay? But if there's a Kimia Farma near you, give it a shot.
SeaTraveler
10-17-18, 02:09
I found it readily available in any pharmacy without a prescription. Even in the province.
You can buy in any quantity. Even just 1.
Just walk in and ask for it.
SEA TRaveler.
Hi all,
Looking at buying generic CIalis. Can you share some specific 3 places in Jakarta where I can get just 2 of them?
That should suffice for the 6 day trip.
OS.
Can you share some specific 3 places in Jakarta where I can get just 2 of them?Left, right and center.
Uncle Volodya
10-17-18, 12:45
I wouldn't want to be in Pattaya or Bali during Christmas and New Years, but Bangkok and Jakarta are fine. I actually prefer Bangkok over Jakarta during that time period though. It feels more like Christmas in Bangkok than it does in Jakarta and I prefer the New Year's celebrations in Bangkok as well.I am glad I am not the only one that sees things this way. I was starting to feel liek an old fogey. But these young douchebags are just insufferable.
Actually you now have me thinking that it may be a good idea to split my time between the two. A week or so in each.
I wouldn't want to be in Pattaya or Bali during Christmas and New Years, but Bangkok and Jakarta are fine. I actually prefer Bangkok over Jakarta during that time period though. It feels more like Christmas in Bangkok than it does in Jakarta and I prefer the New Year's celebrations in Bangkok as well.I just booked my 30 day tour through Asia. Landing in BKK on Dec 30th. I had planned on doing NYE in Pattaya. I'm a younger guy but don't think I'm a douchebag. LOL. Any particular reason you prefer BKK over Pattaya for NYE?
Banana Boi
10-17-18, 20:59
I just booked my 30 day tour through Asia. Landing in BKK on Dec 30th. I had planned on doing NYE in Pattaya. I'm a younger guy but don't think I'm a douchebag. LOL. Any particular reason you prefer BKK over Pattaya for NYE?Since pattaya is a party city to begin with I find NYE in pattaya to be no different than any other night except for 3 things. Expect to pay way more for dinner. Expect fewer girl availability since guys would have prearranged to be with their favorite girl. The 360 degree fireworks show is impressive. Just stand on beach road around Central festival and enjoy.
Since pattaya is a party city to begin with I find NYE in pattaya to be no different than any other night except for 3 things. Expect to pay way more for dinner. Expect fewer girl availability since guys would have prearranged to be with their favorite girl. The 360 degree fireworks show is impressive. Just stand on beach road around Central festival and enjoy.Yeah I just was wanting to get out of the states for the holiday. NYE always sucks here. I will add a 4th thing to your list. Expensive hotels. Thanks for the tip about the fireworks. I would have missed that. Would BKK be different? I'm just curious what makes BKK better for NYE. Starting to think I should change from Pattaya to BKK or Jakarta. I've just spent so much more time in Pattaya so seemed like the best comfortable spot with plenty of younger talent. Out of Japan, South Korea, Indonesia, Philippines, Burma, Cambodia, Vietnam, Macau and Malaysia where would you spend NYE? Going to attempt 3 days in each just not sure what order. May also kick out Macau and South Korea.
Out of Japan, South Korea, Indonesia, Philippines, Burma, Cambodia, Vietnam, Macau and Malaysia where would you spend NYE? Going to attempt 3 days in each just not sure what order. May also kick out Macau and South Korea.If going to the Philippines, be mindful of typhoons during the period between Christmas and NY. Manila is usually pretty good but I've been stuck in towns south of there a few times due to storms rolling in at that time. I wouldn't be paranoid about it but just keep an eye on the forecasts.
Enjoy your trip.
Blanquiceleste
10-19-18, 07:26
Yeah I just was wanting to get out of the states for the holiday. NYE always sucks here. I will add a 4th thing to your list. Expensive hotels. Thanks for the tip about the fireworks. I would have missed that. Would BKK be different? I'm just curious what makes BKK better for NYE. Starting to think I should change from Pattaya to BKK or Jakarta. I've just spent so much more time in Pattaya so seemed like the best comfortable spot with plenty of younger talent. Out of Japan, South Korea, Indonesia, Philippines, Burma, Cambodia, Vietnam, Macau and Malaysia where would you spend NYE? Going to attempt 3 days in each just not sure what order. May also kick out Macau and South Korea.I would more certainly drop Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Malaysia and Macau. I have never been to Burma so I cannot comment, although I hear it is great for a short visit (not sure about NYE).
I have been in Jakarata, Bangkok, Pattaya, Manila and Angeles during NYE time and I can safely say BKK was by far the best. Pattaya just gets too crowded and too expensive (compared to usual prices). AC is always fun, and I would happily go back there. Manila is pretty good too, though I noticed the quantity of talent low during the last week of the year right after 23 Dec. I have done Phnom Penh a few times but never during NYE, and I don't think it would be any different really.
I might add Singapore to your list, if money is no object to you. If you are willing to list Japan, Korea and Macau, then I gather your budget will be reasonable. Get a suite at Marina Bay Sands and get some of the most fabulous golden pussies this island nation has to offer. Insanely priced, IMHO. Some places charge $1000 for a couple, just for a table and free flow champagne for 2 hours. Flash the cash and you can totally live the Dan Bilzerian life.
Keen Eye Joe 1
10-19-18, 13:15
I'm a 62 year old American retiree who is staying long term in the Philippines but enjoys vacationing around Asia. I'm not poor but I do value the value of my retirement dollars. I always stay in North Jakarta because $35 a night for a large king sized bed room at the Novotel Hotel is a darned good deal, and there's good variety and value in nearby lower budget mongering options.
I did a cruddy job of planning this trip. Arriving on a Sunday was really stupid from a mongering perspective. In the early evening I ojeked (Indonesian verb) to Lokasari Plaza in Mangga Besar and saw no service providers, so I caught another ojek and headed to the street that I like to call "Three Spa Road". It's the first street southeast of the intersection of JL Raya Mangga Besar and JL Hayam Waruk near the Mangga Besar TransJakarta station. The first spa / club is called Berlian, the second spa's name escapes me and the third is the Kartika body to body massage spa which is staffed by over aged and overweight whales.
In the past I've had good luck with younger providers at Berlian, so I stopped in for a beer at around 8 pm Sunday. Unfortunately the landscape consisted of the oldest, ugliest, chubbiest, and most disinterested females I've ever seen in a Jakarta spa. I am not a fussy man but even in my semi-rigid state I simply could not pull the trigger, even with the temptingly low price of 300,000 Rp. Of course it helps to have Hotel Travel nearby as 380,000 Rp fallback plan.
My taste buds were thirsty for brewed hops and grains, so I bid adieu to the spa and took a taxi to JL Faletahan in Blok M (Bule Street), arriving at around 10:30 pm. Started the evening with a couple of beers at the upstairs pub to the right of My Bar (I think it's called E-something) and had a relaxing time there until I was alcoholically-fortified enough to venture to My Bar to select my lady of the night.
Again, Sunday night was not my friend. The patrons at My Bar consisted of one other foreign guy and about 12 well-worn middle-aged hags eyeing me like sharks around a wounded tuna. I simply didn't see anyone there who was worthy of a drop of my man gravy. But it was getting late and I was determined not to go home alone.
Finally I lowered my personal standards to allow one to invade my personal space and sit with me. Her name escapes me, but she was a moderately pretty 42 year old from Bandung. Her loose-fitting dress hid some rolls of fat but the short hemline, low cleavage, ample bosom, and high sandals enhanced her sexiness. She wasn't ideal, but my beer goggles told my brain she would do nicely.
Her English skills were fair and she was a good conversationalist. We had lots of fun and it didn't hurt that she knew what erogenous spots to touch to pique my interest. She seemed genuinely interested in and attracted to me, so after my 5th JL Falatehan beer I was ready to make a deal. She wanted 700,000, I offered 500,000 and she readily accepted.
We walked hand in hand to the end of the road to find a Bluebird taxi, and luckily found one that was willing to use the meter. The whole way there she kept massaging my cock through my pants as we stuck our tongues down each other's throats. We didn't care what the driver thought of our actions. I guess he would have stopped the cab and threw us out if we had offended his Muslim sensibilities too badly.
We ended up at the hotel at 3 am and she ended leaving at 7:30 am. As predicted, the session was superb and was everything I could have hoped for. Used 3 condoms but could only manage 2 cums. It sucks getting old.
She lives far away in Tangerang, so I gave her 100,000 extra so she could get home safely. My only disappointment was seeing her put on her hijab head covering as she was getting dressed. It's always been one of my weird bucket list fantasies to copulate with a Muslim gal dressed in her religious garb. Oh well, maybe tomorrow.
Keen Eye Joe 1
10-19-18, 13:19
On Tuesday night I made my maiden voyage to Kota Indah. It doesn't get talked about too often in this forum, but it's definitely worth a visit. It's located in North Jakarta just off JL Pangeran Jayakarta, or Pang-Jay. After dark this road is somewhat dark and menacing, and as the taxi rolled along I had some doubts about my decision to come here. Eventually the driver motioned me out of the cab at a guard shack near a Bali Hai sign, and I strolled by like I had been there before.
Kota Indah is a rectangular residential / business block that has a collection of 8-10 bars / spas. I arrived at around 9 pm and was surprised at how fast I relaxed once I started walking. The area is fairly clean and there were a few "observers" stationed around the area to keep the peace. I never felt threatened or unsafe. In fact, I was pretty much ignored by everyone except for the mamasans.
I stopped by 4 clubs. 3 of them were loud smokey places, loaded with locals sitting on you-shaped padded couches partying with their female companions. It looked like everyone was having a great time, but they weren't the right places for a solitary white guy to fit in.
Finally I walked up the stairs of what ended up being the most suitable establishment, called Starmoon. It's a dark yet clean place with reasonably-priced beer but with uncomfortable elevated chairs that were hard on my butt.
I'd estimate around 50 girls were available. Most were seated behind glass in a well lit, tiered seating fish bowl except for the smokers who would puff in the main bar area before eventually retreating inside. I'd say at least 1/3rd of them were as pretty as any BATS girl I'd seen. Your mileage may vary.
The toilet area was smaller than I had anticipated and had a rather uncommon floor plan. It has a single entrance for everyone, but separate areas containing the men's and women's toilets and a joint-use sink area in the middle.
As I strolled in, I was caught off guard by the presence of 3 beauties taking selfies at the sinks. My immediate reaction was one of horror, where I assumed I had mistakenly stumbled into the female toilet. But one of them jabbered at me in Bahasa and pointed to the right door.
Upon finishing, I went to wash my hands but the girls were still there. They moved aside, and after I was finished one of them motioned that they wanted to take a selfie with me. I can only hope my face is plastered on one of these lovely creature's Facebook wall, waiting to be discovered through the magic of facial recognition software.
The mamasans were attentive but not too pushy as I told them I wanted to drink a bit first. After my first beer, I mentioned to one that I was ready to make my selection.
I asked if any of the girls spoke English, and she said she would find out. She walked inside and eventually brought one to me. Fortunately she was a smoking hot girl: 21 years old with long legs, lovely physique, pretty face, beautiful luscious black hair, and wearing a super short mini dress with 6 inch stripper shoes.
I ordered another beer and offered her something to drink. She seemed a bit hesitant to accept, but finally decided to have some juice. Her English skills were barely adequate and I could tell she was a bit uncomfortable in entertaining a foreigner. But OMG she was absolutely gorgeous and I was not going to let her slip through my fingers.
After paying the 388,000 Rp charge, she led me to a well lit and clean room which had two containers of bottled water. We stripped down and showered together, then she applied some lubricant in her hoo-hoo and gave a somewhat satisfying one minute uncovered blow job. On went the condom and we had about 10 minutes of missionary, doggie, and cowgirl sex before I finished with a vigorous missionary explosion. Again we showered together, then I got dressed, gave her a 50,000 Rp tip, and headed out the door. No demonstrative GFE, but she was pretty, pleasant, and compliant and I left very satisfied.
As I walked to the road I was basking in the glow of doinking a gorgeous creature for a mere $30 US dollars. But my warm feelings evaporated once I had to deal with the local taxi mafia.
Guys, there are no metered Pukasa or Bluebird taxis waiting for customers on Pang-Jay. Just those shitty beat-up Toyota Vios cabs with drivers who know they have us by the balls. It cost me 30,000 Rp to get there and luckily it only took 50,000 to get home. But for those of you traveling to far-flung places, be prepared for some sticker shock.
In retrospect, Kota Indah provides a somewhat comparable experience to Hotel's Travel and Classic, except it's a lot rougher around the edges. The girls dress a lot sluttier at Starmoon and it was nice to be able to sit with a girl and drink and relax without a pushy mamasan hovering overhead. Like General MacArthur, I shall return.
Visited Jakarta, just for a couple of nights, without mongering as primary purpose, and failed to RTFF first. LOL.
My report is completely useless to experienced hands in Jakarta but may have something of use for those just making a Visa run and don't know the place.
Incidentally this is not a great place to apply for a single entry Visa to Thailand, it takes too long and all the evidence they require including Hotel bookings is excessive. So for Thai Visa runs use some other place. E. g. Laos.
This naturally leads to possibility to make many mistakes as a newbie. LOL First one was going to establishments, thinking I would be taking the girl away, when actually had to do her on the premises. LOL So I failed to have my special condoms and lube with me. Now I know you really have to have private arrangements to have girl at your Hotel. No barfining.
Visited Malio club downstairs, Malioboro? Upstairs, 1001 Pool, and night club in something Hotel.
I am going to compare to Bangkok at times, because that is what I know well, but may not always be relevant. Firstly the quality of the girls met in line ups was significantly higher than BKK girls, in that a much higher percentage of the girls I would rate as doable, and lower percentage of total uglies, lower percentage of surgery girls. Line ups relatively large.
Stunning girls tended to be a bit pricey. Nothing strange about that. Cheap priced girls not so stunning (similar to very ordinary Bangkok girls). Behaviour of girls tends to be more aggressive than what I am used to with large numbers of dancing girls coming uninvited, and having to indicate multiple times that they were not going to get a drink, or their friend was not invited (one girl is enough). LOL.
In BKK I find I have to say no only a limited number of times. In Jakarta they don't seem to take no for an answer. Maybe have to repeat it five times to be very clear. LOL.
Where I expected to be able to chat to the couch girls first (the more reasonable priced ones) before deciding if we were a match, this was wrong, it was more like a Bangkok Soapy or MP where you basically had to choose the girl just by looking at her briefly (in BKK soapies you normally get to check out the line up for extended time). This leads to extra possibility to make a mistake, even if Jakarata girl attitudes are generally better than Thai girls.
The girls available to chat to first, were usually dancers in a significantly higher price bracket. I tried to call over a couch girl in Malioboro (upstairs) to chat to only to find the pressure to take her upstairs immediately. She went away quickly and some other customer grabbed her to fuck. She was a superior looker. Had an experience with chatting to a really lovely dancing girl in Malioboro (upstairs) using Google Translate as her English level was extremely low. I liked her a lot for looks and personality. A cut above the rest in my eyes. Unfortunately she was not available to fuck due to on her period. I decided to chat to her anyway. Apparently she also works at Emporium other days, but I did not expect to stay in Jakarta long enough to return for her.
Later found a somewhat raunchy dancing girl to go to a room with in Malio called Tiara. She reminded me of an ex GF but with bigger tits and younger. She was a lot of fun. No issues with her at all other than she went through too many drinks beforehand. LOL My fault. She was keen to give her contact info that suggested cheaper private liasons could be possible. Later spotting dancing girls with stunning bodies, so plenty of talent but a bit pricey. Would have been nice to be there in former times when they danced nude. Instead revealing outfits.
Another day picked a couch girl with no pre-chat to speak of possible, at 1001 and turned out we were not totally compatible. Was very similar to one of my La Belle Soapy gone wrong experiences in Bangkok. Although one factor was we had just 60 minutes available supposedly. I could swear the phone rang at about 40 minutes, but is possible she had wasted so much time in the shower, that time had moved faster than I believed. She enjoyed my DATY. I did not enjoy her BBBJ. Her technique was not good, too fast but shallow, and included too much fingers on the dick, despite me trying hard get her fingers to tickle the balls instead. I was just trying to work out how to finger her to get hard, when the phone rang, and she answered, then tried to continue suggesting 10 minutes left, and then the phone rang again. So no fucking occurred. An easy guy probably would have skipped the DATY, liked the crappy BJ, and fucked her quickly. As usual I find I am often not specially compatible with new girls I don't know.
Later went to a club with band and singers. Girl standard was a bit lower. Mainly the older fattish girls approached me, not my cup of tea. Nothing really my spec but a few acceptable slimmer girls.
Food in Jakarta was weird with lots of unknown battered deep fried stuff (little clue what it was LOL), also fried rice and fried noodles are staples but I generally don't take much carbs so, had to find more Chinese style vegie dishes. Not a great deal of similarity to Bangkok food carts other than very junky type food is available in both places. Just different cheap junk.
Forgive me if I have been unfair at any stage, just was my perceptions knowing very little.
Currency is strange to get used to 1 million rupiah seems to be worth about 2000 Thai baht, or maybe just a bit over $50 US in ball park terms. I don't actually use US currency at all.
In many clubs you have little idea how big you bill is till you leave. Charged based on wrist band. You don't get to leave till bill is paid and get an exit pass. I don't know how much girls make out of the bill paid. Was suggested might be 60%, so very different to Bangkok where generally girl makes more or her money is paid separately to venue costs. So fancy club is making most of the money. Ordinary girls maybe struggling I have no clue.
Every person that works there seems to want a tip, in case us newbies get sucked in, but we just don't need the boy waiters hanging around so much.
I would have been in heaven in my younger mongering days, but my keenness to do new girls has been waning a lot with age, especially last 2 or 3 years. Tend to be happy with my regulars and don't acquire new regulars equal to those I have already, that easily. I could acquire some new regulars in Jakarta for sure though, given time.
Where I expected to be able to chat to the couch girls first (the more reasonable priced ones) before deciding if we were a match, this was wrong
The girls available to chat to first, were usually dancers in a significantly higher price bracket. I tried to call over a couch girl in Malioboro (upstairs) to chat to only to find the pressure to take her upstairs immediately. She went away quickly and some other customer grabbed her to fuck. She was a superior looker.
I haven't had any problem chatting up the couch girls at Malioboro. They are brought over in a lineup, I select one and she will sit and chat with me for quite a while before she will pressure me to go upstairs. I've never had one immediately pressure me. Sometimes they sit with me an hour before I take them up or even send them back and pick a different girl. I do speak Indonesian though. If you want to speak English to brothel girls in Jakarta, that's a somewhat rare find. If you go to the bars in the 5 star hotels like BATS and CJs, they basically all speak very good English.
Later went to a club with band and singers. Girl standard was a bit lower.
There are some gems in there and price of those girls is less than half of the price of the ones in the other area.
Every person that works there seems to want a tip, in case us newbies get sucked in, but we just don't need the boy waiters hanging around so much.
I never tip anyone at Malioboro (other than the girls) anything.
It's a dark yet clean place.Clean relative to what? A dirt road? There aren't many places dirtier than starmoon. Go there with the lights on some afternoon.
I do give them credit for getting rid of the sewage smell in the upstairs rooms. It was there the first few years they opened, but I haven't smelled it in a while now (admittedly, I don't go often these days). Rooms still look as dingy as ever, but the sewage smell is gone.
Guys, there are no metered Pukasa or Bluebird taxis waiting for customers on Pang-Jay. Just those shitty beat-up Toyota Vios cabs with drivers who know they have us by the balls. It cost me 30,000 Rp to get there and luckily it only took 50,000 to get home. But for those of you traveling to far-flung places, be prepared for some sticker shock.For sure those taxis are broken down and dirty, and they will rip you off on the price refusing to use the meter. Many of those taxi drivers have been working there as "mafia transport" for over 25 years. They used to drive becaks back in the day when only MTR was there. They have some good stories if you can speak Indonesian. Hotel Classic and Travel have much nicer rooms and just as nice or nicer girls for the same price. But at those places, you can't find taxi drivers who know those old time funny stories and history.
Again, Sunday night was not my friend. The patrons at My Bar consisted of one other foreign guy and about 12 well-worn middle-aged hags eyeing me like sharks around a wounded tuna. I simply didn't see anyone there who was worthy of a drop of my man gravy. But it was getting late and I was determined not to go home alone.
Finally I lowered my personal standards to allow one to invade my personal space and sit with me. Her name escapes me, but she was a moderately pretty 42 year old from Bandung. Her loose-fitting dress hid some rolls of fat but the short hemline, low cleavage, ample bosom, and high sandals enhanced her sexiness. She wasn't ideal, but my beer goggles told my brain she would do nicely.
Her English skills were fair and she was a good conversationalist. We had lots of fun and it didn't hurt that she knew what erogenous spots to touch to pique my interest. She seemed genuinely interested in and attracted to me, so after my 5th JL Falatehan beer I was ready to make a deal. She wanted 700,000, I offered 500,000 and she readily accepted.
We walked hand in hand to the end of the road to find a Bluebird taxi, and luckily found one that was willing to use the meter. The whole way there she kept massaging my cock through my pants as we stuck our tongues down each other's throats. We didn't care what the driver thought of our actions. I guess he would have stopped the cab and threw us out if we had offended his Muslim sensibilities too badly.
We ended up at the hotel at 3 am and she ended leaving at 7:30 am. As predicted, the session was superb and was everything I could have hoped for. Used 3 condoms but could only manage 2 cums. It sucks getting old.
She lives far away in Tangerang, so I gave her 100,000 extra so she could get home safely. My only disappointment was seeing her put on her hijab head covering as she was getting dressed. It's always been one of my weird bucket list fantasies to copulate with a Muslim gal dressed in her religious garb. Oh well, maybe tomorrow.If you found anything at all on a Sunday night at My Bar, you did well. CJs in hotel Mulia is the place to go Sunday night. You have to negotiate there to get a decent deal, but Sunday is slow so the girls have less leverage (and there will almost always be some hot girls there on a Sunday). Wed thru Sat nights you can sometimes find a gem at My Bar, but it's not likely to happen on a Sunday. Still sounds like you got your money's worth. That's the advantage of going with free lancers. The service is much better.
Keen Eye Joe 1
10-20-18, 03:58
Bule street in Blok M was hopping on Friday night. The bars were loaded with hunters and prey. Even the Obama bar had plenty of patrons but only a couple of available ceweks.
At midnight My Bar was rocking and rolling and the odds were definitely in my favor at about a 6-1 female / male ratio. Unfortunately the women not locked up by male partyers were either ugly with hot bodies, cute with blobby frames, or homely with linebacker physiques. My expectations were high, but I just could not find exactly what I was looking for.
In my 2 hours there I bought drinks for 2 women. Both started the bidding at 700,000 Rp and eventually agreed to reduce their price to 500,000, which I feel is a fair price for the area. But I got the vibe that they were unhappy in doing so, and in the past I've had unfavorable sessions with women who feel like they have been underpaid. So I wavered and passed on them.
By 2 am I wanted to go outside and walk up and down the street to clear my head and stretch my legs. I exited My Bar and turned left and headed up toward the ojek (motorcycle taxi) corner. As I walked between DJs and the Octagon KTV, I passed by a group of 5 girls sitting on the concrete in front of a dark storefront. One of them waved, called out to me, and motioned me over. From a distance she looked fairly cute and had a bright smile and looked doable. I waved back but continued my walk.
After a few minutes of chatting with ojek drivers and 2 streetwalkers, I headed back to the bar area. As I passed by the gaggle of seated girls, the vocal one stood up and asked where I was going. As I had nowhere important to go, I began chatting with her.
As we talked I started mentally and verbally surveying her. Name? Yani. Age? 33 (acceptable). Face? More cute than pretty, with a killer smile. Body? Medium build, no discernible fatty areas. Fun personality with good English skills? Definitely. Nice outfit? Yes (cute top with tight jeans and 4 inch strappy heels). Blow job? Of course, she says she loves giving blow jobs. Double yes. 500,000 rupiah? Yes.
Survey complete, deal is sealed. Off to the Pukasa taxi for a 65,000 rp ride to North Jakarta.
In the cab we had a nice chat as she cuddled next to me while continually rubbing my crotch. I asked why she was not working inside any of the bars and she said she could not loiter inside for an extended period without purchasing a beverage. She then opened her purse and pulled out a solitary 5,000 Rp note and chuckled as she said that's all the money she had with her.
Her group of concrete angels were cuter than most of the My Bar gals. She said she was not previously acquainted with any of them, but the one thing they had in common was they were out of money and were hoping a customer would stroll by. Lucky for me and for her that I was in the right place at the right time.
I then asked if she came to Blok M very often. She said she rarely came because her hangout of choice is normally BATS, but tonight could obviously not afford to pay the 120,000 Rp entrance fee. I could see that her combination of looks, physique, charm, bright smile, and wonderful English skills coupled with the right cosmetics and outfit would allow her to fit in quite well in the BATS world.
Apparently she had not "worked" in about 2 weeks and had not had any sex during that time. I figured it was BS because I always assume all these girls have local boyfriends, but after getting into action I could tell this was one sex-starved creature.
She sucked me while we showered, she knelt and sucked me again while I stood at the end of the bed, and she sucked me thoroughly while laying down. She was a very passionate and willing kisser and had a darting and penetrating tongue which she used to perfection.
On went the condom, followed by missionary, doggie, cowgirl, then she begged for more doggie. On to reverse cowgirl, then I rolled her over and finished in a spirited missionary crescendo. As I came to the end, her pussy spasmed for about 20 seconds and squeezed the last drops of liquid from my loins.
I mentioned that was one heck of a cum, and she said that was actually orgasm #4. Guess I was too busy to notice.
I looked at the clock and it was 4 am. I was tired and didn't want her to stay. Mercifully she didn't ask to do. We showered, engaged in more small talk, then I handed her the money with 100,000 Rp extra. She wrote down her number and said she really hoped I would call her sometime. Time will tell.
Keen Eye Joe 1
10-20-18, 04:08
Clean relative to what? A dirt road? There aren't many places dirtier than starmoon. Go there with the lights on some afternoon.
I do give them credit for getting rid of the sewage smell in the upstairs rooms. It was there the first few years they opened, but I haven't smelled it in a while now (admittedly, I don't go often these days). Rooms still look as dingy as ever, but the sewage smell is gone.You are absolutely correct. The hygiene at Classic and Travel is umpteen times better than that of Starmoon, but I must say the bedroom was spartan yet clean.
I live near a medium-sized city on the island of Mindanao, Philippines. I guess my glasses were fogged by the contrast between Starmoon and the shitty girlie bars and $4 dollar short time hotels in my provincial city. Bathrooms in those places would make you gag.
Keen Eye Joe 1
10-20-18, 04:21
I decided to take the day off and let my libido recharge. At around 7:30 pm I walked along JL Mangga Besar to the Lokasari Plaza to buy some stuff at the third floor grocery store.
I was a bit stunned by how many young-looking teenagers were "working" on the through way between the Prinsen Park Hotel. KFC. Lokasari Plaza. I would estimate there were at least 10 of them, with a couple being pretty darned cute. They were hanging out in groups of 2-3 girls with one being the "Alpha Female" calling out to me to offer their wares. Even though the age of consent in Indonesia is 16, I wasn't seriously tempted because I prefer older women and I wouldn't want to take a chance of unwittingly ending up with a 15 year old. But if you like them legal yet fresh, that's definitely one place to find them.
If you are going to partake, I'd recommend searching out one of the older mamasans to negotiate. I've dealt with them on previous trips and they've mentioned they wouldn't pimp out anyone who is too young. This is their livelihood and they don't want to take a chance on going to jail. I guess I prefer to walk on the safe side of the road, so I pass on the questionable ones.
Member #4698
10-20-18, 10:13
1001 Hotel Pool:
I left BKK last Saturday rather reluctantly because I was having such a good time there, but starting with my 2 fer 1st night back in Jakarta everything has been going gangbusters, so I think it is a time to give a short report of what I have been up to thus far in CGK.
My 1st night in town, last Saturday night, I went to 1001 Hotel and had reunion sex with J, my favorite Alexis girl from 2017. It was real nice to see her again. Of note: since seeing her she has become jealous and has been acting like drama queen, but more of that later.
A few notes on 1001 Pool Hotel: it is a very posh place. The rooms are very nice. The lounge area is a little dark, but manageable. This establishment is owned and managed by the Alexis group so it is very similar to 7th floor Alexis with many of the same girls except for a few differences. 1. There is now a one drink minimum 200,000 rp. Alexis had none. 2. The Indo girls sit on chairs around tables and couches scattered all over the place so it is not possible to see all the girls at one time like it was in Alexis. The mamasan or papas show customers 10 girls at a time. I preferred the old way at Alexis. 3. Viet's now come in 2 categories regular (2. 4 mil) and model (3 plus mil). At Alexis there was only one category and the price was 2. 4 mil. I saw a few good looking Viet's walking around. They smiled at me. I will ask for a lineup to see what the difference is in quality if any between the regulars and the models. 4. Security now asks if you have a phone and if you say you do they will put adhesive tape over the lens. On my 1st visit I said I had a phone. On all subsequent visits I lied and said I had no phone.
So my conclusion is 1001 is the new Alexis with some price hikes and few decorative changes along with heightened security concerns, but with same high quality lineup of young Indo girls. It is still a great place to go. Coliseum nightclub is also there with more Indo girls to choose from and take to a room in the hotel. I believe Coliseum does not open until 10 pm. I plan to check it out later.
I went back to 1001 on Monday night thinking J would be there. She let me think that by not contradicting my Line texts to her. When I realized she was not there I took another sweet young Indo and had a fairly good although not very memorable time with her except that she insisted on a covered BJ which I rejected. She then asked if I wanted to change girls which I thought was reasonable on her part, but I said I did not want to change girls, only that I did not want a Covered BJ, so we continued with kissing and touching until I got on top of her, applied the Sagami and began shagging her. The sex was alright except for the BJ issue so I had a pretty good time, but I would not repeat with her. She also would not let me take any photos so she is already a blur in my memory. Ha Ha.
On Wednesday I picked up Syzygies at his hotel and we went to 1001. My 3rd time there and his 1st. Syzygies and I also hit up Malio and Malioboro the previous night and I will give my version of that night in a later report. So we arrive and a papasaon shows us around. We are seated at a couch and order some mandatory drinks. After a while our host returns and shows us a l lineup of 10 girls, Gentleman that I am I, wait to see if any of the girls are to Syzygies liking and sure enough he has focused in on perhaps the prettiest girl of the 10. I quickly choose a pretty little spinner that was standing right in front of me. Perhaps we should have asked to see more girls, ie the full lineup, but I was happy with my girl. So the papason leaves us to get each get aquatinted with our girls. After around 10 minutes my girl asks if I want to go upstairs with her and I said yes. I gather Syzygies was asked the same question.
So we parted company at the hotel front desk. Syzygies and his girl went up to a room first. I asked for a VIP room which is around 150,000 rp more and is a little nicer and has a tub. I casually looked at my watch around this time and it was 9 pm to the best of my recollection. Up in the room my girl ran the water in the tub and cleaned her pussy with a shower hose in the water room. Then we got naked and went into the tub. The hot tub experience was far short of anything you get in the Lord or La Belle, but it was still nice to play around in the tub and get my dick washed by this girl. She had very small hands. HA HA. After tub time went to the bed and made out. Then she went down on me and gave me a pretty good BBBJ. After a while I told her I wanted to kiss her too, so she said OK in a cheery tone and straddled me for 69. I enjoyed licking her pussy from this vantage point a lot. She was a small girl and had a nice little ass and puffy brown pussy lips to look at.
After 69 she turned around, place a Sagami on my dick and impaled herself and off we went. I began to really like this one. With her little tits bouncing in the air, we were very simpatico in our movements. After a while I flipped over on her back without leaving her pussy and we continued passionately in mish. Time went by as I was enjoying her and then I rolled her back over on top and we finished strong in cowgirl.
After coitus we embraced and laid side by side kissing occasionally and talking quietly. The phone rang signally my time was up. She answered it and then came back to bed. A few more words and caresses and then we both got up and showered together. I took a few photos of her and we exchanged Line ID's. I told her I liked her and would come see her again. She seemed to really like that idea. I gave her a 200,000 tip.
In conclusion: I really liked this little girl. Although she is not a striking beauty, she is just cute enough and her body is young and tight to satisfy me. Most importantly, sex with her was very good. WIR? Yes. I have a date to see her tonight. LOL.
So I go back to the lounge area all happy & upbeat and see Syzygies seated on the couch. I ask him about his session and was very surprised to hear just how bad his session went. It sounded like a disaster. He asked my opinion about the time issue and I looked at my watch. It read 10 after 10. So I told him it looked to me like I was up there in the room 60 plus minutes. In any case it is just damn too bad that for whatever reason, he experienced a really bad sessions his 1st time in 1001. It was not even comparable to my 2nd night in 1001 which I described a little in preceding paragraphs. But my less than memorable Monday night was still acceptable to me. It just wasn't a memorable shag in any way except that the girl would not give me a BBBJ and not let me take a photo so I could remember who she was. She is already a blur in my memory (girl # 29, 2018 trip), although as I remember it, she did look a little like the girl Syzygies had. I even remember asking him at the time what his girl's name was, but I believe his girl had a different name. My Monday night blur girl was Dewi.
Anyway, I said to Syzygies right then & there in 1001, there are one of 2 things you can do at this point. You can either get another 1001 Indo girl and make up for the last session or since it is Wednesday, ladies night, we can head for CJ's at the Mulia. I warned him that Friday and Saturday are the best nights for CJ's, but sometimes you can find a hot one on ladies night. Incidentally, I was at CJ's last Saturday night, my 1st night in Jakarta. I went there after reunion sex with J in 1001. And on that particular night CJ's was packed with some pretty good talent, In fact I got seduced last Saturday night and took a CJ's FL back to my hotel making my 1st night back in Jakarta a 2 fer! So Syzygies said he would like to check out CJ's and off we went.
I will post more on CJ'S and on Malio / Malioboro next report. I will only say right now that Malio / Malioboro Tuesday night was pretty damn good. I did a repeat session with a blond harem couch girl in Malioboro and then later did a Malio dancer. The girls at Malioboro and Malio seemed to like Syzygies a lot. I went back there last night, Friday night, and several girls asked about you, Syzygies. I am not kidding. You made an impact. 555.
Does anybody know if there is a better day during the week (or time of day) for getting street girls from Hayam Wuruk? Also, has anybody ever stayed at Hotel 88 mangga besar 62? Is it GF, or have a safe (lock box) in the room?
On Tuesday night I made my maiden voyage to Kota Indah. *snip* Like General MacArthur, I shall return.Hi KEJ and thank you for the reports. They were entertaining and would be useful to new visitors; Smoothy has given you his critique on other points, so newbies take notice. Anyway, you get my vote for the guy with the best first-reports. Keep them coming! TTG.
Visited Jakarta, just for a couple of nights, without mongering as primary purpose, and failed to RTFF first. LOL.But considering you had Natty Bumpo as your tour guide, there was no need to read the forum.
Anyway, you get my vote for the guy with the best first-reports. First report with that particular screen name. Dude went to Belian, Kartika, and Felatehan. This was obviously far from his first rodeo. Probably hasn't posted in a while and forgot the password and email address he used for his old screen name so he created a new one. LOL. I do that on forums as well.
Good to read the two legends of ISG, Syzygies and Natty simultaneously partaking of the delights of Jakarta. Their reports together with that of a newbie have improved the Jakarta thread exponentially. If I remember correctly some reports by Natty in 2015 played a big part in me making my first visit to Jakarta in 2015 which I enjoyed tremendously. Have fun guys!
As much as I think you are a MF I like your replies.
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Hi yall,
Stopping by Jakarta after Pattaya. I'm planning on staying near Malio.
Is it possible to take girls back to hotel for long time? Would prefer to avoid short time rooms etc.
Cheers.
Hi yall,
Stopping by Jakarta after Pattaya. I'm planning on staying near Malio.
Is it possible to take girls back to hotel for long time? Would prefer to avoid short time rooms etc.
Cheers.All hotels in Jakarta allow you to take girls to the hotel long time.
However, the area near Malio is not the most conducive to picking up free lancers for long time in your hotel. If you are planning to take free lancers to your hotel rather than go to brothels or short time rooms, why would you stay in the brothel area? There are nice areas of town where free lancers would much rather visit. You will find that some free lancers will even refuse to go to a hotel in the brothel district (depending on the quality of the free lancer). If you are planning on sticking with short time 1 hour brothel sessions, a hotel near Malio is perfect.
All hotels in Jakarta allow you to take girls to the hotel long time.
However, the area near Malio is not the most conducive to picking up free lancers for long time in your hotel. If you are planning to take free lancers to your hotel rather than go to brothels or short time rooms, why would you stay in the brothel area? There are nice areas of town where free lancers would much rather visit. You will find that some free lancers will even refuse to go to a hotel in the brothel district (depending on the quality of the free lancer). If you are planning on sticking with short time 1 hour brothel sessions, a hotel near Malio is perfect.Where area would you recommend for freelancers?
Keen Eye Joe 1
10-22-18, 12:27
Because I am leaving Jakarta tonight, I decided to monger locally this afternoon. I headed over to the 3 street area of spas located southeast of the JL Mangga Besar and JL Hayam Wuruk intersection. The streets are collectively named JL Kebon Jeruk and are numbered with roman numerals.
Walking south from the main intersection, the first street you encounter contains the Berlian and Kartika spas. The second street has about 6 spa / lounges and is named JL Kebon Jeruk XIX (you can look it up on Google Maps). This is where I imbibed today.
The name of the spa I used is called "Ibu Linda" and is located on the left side of the road. Its hours of operation are from 10 am to 11 pm. It's a pretty good option for those who require early in the day servicing.
I showed up at 3 pm. There was a guy sitting outside the door who waved me inside. I asked if there were any English-speaking girls and he said there was one. I was intrigued so I decided to take a look.
There were about 12 girls sitting on a long couch. 3 were young and cute spinners, 2 were average, and the rest were homely looking. He started talking to one gal and after a few seconds she rose off the couch and walked over to me.
Her name is Nic (something), like Nicor or Nicam. 36 year old Indonesian-Chinese, with light skin and Chinese eyes but a flat Indonesian nose. I thought she was somewhat pretty, maybe a 6 out of 10. Shoulder-length hair, pretty smile, nice taut figure, and wearing tight black mini-dress with a low-cut cleavage and high strappy heels.
She sat with me on an adjoining couch and made small talk for about 15 minutes while sipping on cold beverages. A can of Bintang was 50,000 Rp and her orange-flavored bottled drink was 15,000. Her English skills were adequate enough to carry on a conversation and she seemed like a very pleasant gal.
After a few minutes she asked whether I wanted to sit with any of the other girls. I replied that I was enjoying her company and did not want to entertain any other ladies. She smiled and thanked me profusely, and we started holding hands and talking some more.
She said she had been working there for only one week. Previously she was working as a credit card processor but did not elaborate why she left her previous employer.
I was a bit smitten with this gal, so I motioned that I wanted to take her upstairs. I paid the 330,000 Rp charge for a room and one hour of her time and we started heading toward the stairs.
As we passed the other girls, several made comments and started laughing. Of course I don't know what they said, but to me it seemed obvious they were happy for her and she seemed proud to be going with her first bule.
Previously I had swallowed an "herbal energy capsule" that I had purchased in the Philippines. One of the benefits of using this pill is it keeps my cock hard even after I ejaculate. It would serve me well today.
Let me warn you that this establishment is not suitable for fussy men who require a clean fornication environment. I wouldn't call it a shithole, but the room could stand a cleaning with a gallon of bleach.
She and I sat on the bed and talked for a while, then she leaned into me and we started kissing. I wasn't expecting GFE from a cheap spa girl, but it was obvious she was really into me. She was an absolutely fantastic kisser, among the best I've ever had. It didn't hurt that she was a skilled boner tugger too.
After a few minutes, she started blowing me while I played with her nipples. We were so caught up in the moment that we didn't take the customary cold shower to make ourselves fresh.
For about 5 minutes she alternated between sucking my dick, licking my nipples, and deep french kissing. Finally I didn't want to hold out any longer, so I pulled out my Trojan extra thin condom from the USA and rolled her on her back.
Initially she was tight, but it didn't take long for her juices to lubricate her canal. I spent about 5 minutes banging her before I had a small explosion. But my cock stayed hard because of the pill, and she was unaware that I had climaxed.
As I laid the motionless on top of her, she asked if she could ride cowgirl. So I rolled off her and she got up on the saddle. After about 3 minutes she started severely moaning, and the next thing I noticed was a lot of liquid dripping down around my pelvis and balls.
She was my first paid squirter and my gosh she gushed like an upside-down geyser. I must admit it wasn't much of a turn-on for me, but at least I had confirmation that she actually climaxed.
I still had a raging hard-on, and she was bound and determined that I was going to have a good cum. After a couple minutes of recovery time, she moved over to the dry side of the bed and I started doing her missionary again. I gave her 10 minutes of a good shag, but I just couldn't do it.
The disappointment was obvious on her face, and she was afraid I was going to be upset because I didn't "finish". On the contrary, she did everything I could have asked for, and I hopefully reassured her that everything was great.
As we got dressed, I gave her a 70,000 Rp tip and she was appreciative. Before we left the room to walk to the lobby, she asked whether we could meet sometime this week after she got off work at 10 pm. I said maybe we could go out to dinner sometime, and this made her very happy. But I just couldn't bring myself to tell her I was flying to Manila tonight.
As we were walking hand in hand down the stairs, she started humming the "Here Comes the Bride" wedding tune. We both started laughing, then she gave me a big hug and we resumed our descent.
Guys, I would never recommend anyone make a special trip to this area to monger. It's downmarket and I've been previously disappointed by mediocre performances on these streets. The only advantage is it is geared toward daytime action, which is nice for the "early to rise" guys. But today was a nice, no bullshit day with a genuinely lovely girl. A great way to end my 9 days in Jakarta.
BruceBoksi
10-22-18, 16:32
I'm in Jakarta from 24 to 27 October. If anyone looking for a buddy please let me know. Probably heading to Hotel Travel, Classic Hotel, Lokasari, BATS, Dragonfly, Immigrant, Blok M. As I'm traveling for pure fun, I'm available anytime of the day. Have not decided on a hotel yet but probably Central Jakarta.
Previously I had swallowed an "herbal energy capsule" that I had purchased in the Philippines.
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Let me warn you that this establishment is not suitable for fussy men who require a clean fornication environment. I wouldn't call it a shithole, but the room could stand a cleaning with a gallon of bleach.
Thanks for the detailed reports. I have never been to Jakarta or Indonesia but have a *burning desire* to visit in the near future.
(1) Regarding the clubs in Kota Indah, I sense two common themes:
(a) decent girls are available (6 to 8 range).
(b) the rooms can range from dirty to disaster, but are meant for locals.
I am fussy about cleanliness and will not enjoy doing the deed on a dirty sheet and/or room. The 10 Juta question is:
At StarMooon, can I pay a bar fine (Thai term) and take the girl back to my Hotel?
(Assume my Hotel is within 15 minutes of the club, since distance is important in Jakarta.)
The alternate solution would be to carry a backpack with clean sheet and towel(s).
Confession: I do not like to do this, but have done this in other countries.
(2) What is the brand name of the "herbal energy capsule"? Any notable side effects?
Thanks again,
BKKguru.
The 10 Juta question is:
At StarMooon, can I pay a bar fine (Thai term) and take the girl back to my Hotel?
(Assume my Hotel is within 15 minutes of the club, since distance is important in Jakarta.)You can pay for "booking out" and take her to your hotel. It's about 2 million rupiah for 5 hours paid in advance. So if you take them at 4 pm, they have to be back by 9 pm for 2 million rupiah. If you take them after 11 pm, you can keep them until 6 am for 2 million. If you take them before 11 pm you can still keep them until 6 am but it will be more than 2 million rupiah. I think they want 4 million for all day. Although I have never done it at starmoon, I've tried it a few times from other kota indah bars over the years when it was only 1 million rather than 2. I'm not sure they will allow you to take her prior to 11pm if they don't already know you. However, it's totally not worth it regardless because once the girls get away from the place, they get lazy and sadly the service is rarely as good as it is on site. Sure, Hotel Classic has much nicer rooms, but starmoon has clean enough sheets even though the rooms are not exactly spotless themselves. Short time on site is the only way to go there. You can find some girls who can hold a conversation at some of the other kota indah bars, but starmoon girls are fresh out of the village (mostly Lampung) and basically brainless. I'm not sure I'd want to spend more than an hour with any of them. If you want free lancers to come to your hotel, there are much better options in Jakarta.
Her name is Nic (something), like Nicor or Nicam.
As we passed the other girls, several made comments and started laughing. Of course I don't know what they said, but to me it seemed obvious they were happy for her and she seemed proud to be going with her first bule.
Guys, I would never recommend anyone make a special trip to this area to monger. It's downmarket and I've been previously disappointed by mediocre performances on these streets. The only advantage is it is geared toward daytime action, which is nice for the "early to rise" guys. But today was a nice, no bullshit day with a genuinely lovely girl. A great way to end my 9 days in Jakarta.You sir, are a gentleman. I am going to try it next week. I haven't been to that area in 10 years, but I have had many good time on those streets.
Her name was most likely Niken. That's a very popular Indo name.
Keen Eye Joe 1
10-23-18, 00:18
Thanks for the detailed reports. I have never been to Jakarta or Indonesia but have a *burning desire* to visit in the near future.
(1) Regarding the clubs in Kota Indah, I sense two common themes:
(a) decent girls are available (6 to 8 range).
(b) the rooms can range from dirty to disaster, but are meant for locals.
I am fussy about cleanliness and will not enjoy doing the deed on a dirty sheet and/or room. The 10 Juta question is:
At StarMooon, can I pay a bar fine (Thai term) and take the girl back to my Hotel?.Sorry, I can't comment on the availability of takeout from Starmoon since I was only there one time. For me, the general lack of English skills would result in a somewhat boring long-term session.
Of course you would probably feel more comfortable bringing your own bedding, but I'm guessing the condition of the shower area might not measure up to your standards.
The brand name of the tablets is "Robust". Two pills in a pack for 88 pesos at Mercury Drug in Manila. At Rose Pharmacy in Mindanao the price is 110 pesos.
The first time I used them, I consumed both pills at once. After one hour my face started turning red, my pulse rate felt elevated, and I had a slight headache that persisted for hours. I trimmed the dose to one pill and my face still turns a little red but I don't feel the elevated heart rate or headache.
One pill gives me added "vigor" for 2 days. In fact, my session yesterday happened during day 2 after a previous day's Lokasari Plaza session. You don't get the raging random boners of Viagra, but rather an added boost which for me kicks in during foreplay.
Keen Eye Joe 1
10-23-18, 00:21
You sir, are a gentleman. I am going to try it next week. I haven't been to that area in 10 years, but I have had many good time on those streets.
Her name was most likely Niken. That's a very popular Indo name.You are correct, her name was Niken. Thanks for jogging my memory. She said she's going to visit her mother and kids on Saturday. I didn't ask when or if she was going to return to the spa. She said a friend of hers was trying to arrange other employment in the "real world", so I'm not sure how long she's going to stay.
I'm in Jakarta from 24 to 27 October. If anyone looking for a buddy please let me know. Probably heading to Hotel Travel, Classic Hotel, Lokasari, BATS, Dragonfly, Immigrant, Blok M. As I'm traveling for pure fun, I'm available anytime of the day. Have not decided on a hotel yet but probably Central Jakarta.Bruce,
I'm in the same place as you. Let's meet up!
I'm in Jakarta from 24 to 27 October. If anyone looking for a buddy please let me know. Probably heading to Hotel Travel, Classic Hotel, Lokasari, BATS, Dragonfly, Immigrant, Blok M. As I'm traveling for pure fun, I'm available anytime of the day. Have not decided on a hotel yet but probably Central Jakarta.I've tried PMing you but you're set to not receive PMs.
Offshore Swell
10-23-18, 12:40
I am fussy about cleanliness and will not enjoy doing the deed on a dirty sheet and/or room. The 10 Juta question is:
At StarMooon, can I pay a bar fine (Thai term) and take the girl back to my Hotel?
The alternate solution would be to carry a backpack with clean sheet and towel(s).
Confession: I do not like to do this, but have done this in other countries.
Starmoon will not let you take the girls out. The others will but like Smoothy says. The performance drops away. Those girls work from 4 PM to 4 AM 7 days per week so they get back to your room eat something and just want to sleep. Then in the morning she is scowling out at you from under the sheets with one eye open as you apologetically ask if you can slip it in one more time before she catches an ojek back to the mess. At Kota Indah the look of love turns to the look of contempt at precisely one minute past four every morning.
Of course if you pack a glass slipper in with your clean sheet and towel you may just come across as being wacko enough that she falls for you and you both live happily ever after.
Also, once you have a girl with you the taxi mafia have you cornered. Be prepared to pay big time.
Hope that helps.
OS.
Those girls work from 4 PM to 4 AM 7 days per week so they get back to your room eat something and just want to sleep. Then in the morning she is scowling out at you from under the sheets with one eye open as you apologetically ask if you can slip it in one more time before she catches an ojek back to the mess. That would be a fairly good experience with one of those girls, but basically the norm. It's amazing how they turn to complete crap when they get to your place and are not under the control of the mamasans. The last time I tried it, I took a girl I had been with many times and had a great time with her every time that I took her upstairs at the bar. But when I took her to my hotel, I had a crap shag with the girl when we first arrived, then she kept wanting to smoke cigarettes. I was staying at the JW Marriott in a non smoking room, so it was a real inconvenience to go downstairs so she could smoke. She hassled me when I wanted a second shag saying "later, later" and was a royal pain in the ass. I ended up sending her back to her bar after being with her less than 2 hours and never repeated with her again.
The name of the spa I used is called "Ibu Linda" and is located on the left side of the road. Its hours of operation are from 10 am to 11 pm. It's a pretty good option for those who require early in the day servicing.I have been visiting this area on and off for nearly 20 years but have never wandered down the road of "Ibu Linda" unless I was going to the old Stadium nightclub. I have always had a decent time in Kartika and often return for the body slide and extras. I have avoided Royal Mas and Berlian next door due to the loud music and ghastly smoke filled interiors.
Was Ibu Linda full of cigarette smoke too? I will in Jakarta in just over a week and will have a look around for myself. Thanks for the detailed reports.
All hotels in Jakarta allow you to take girls to the hotel long time.
However, the area near Malio is not the most conducive to picking up free lancers for long time in your hotel. If you are planning to take free lancers to your hotel rather than go to brothels or short time rooms, why would you stay in the brothel area? There are nice areas of town where free lancers would much rather visit. You will find that some free lancers will even refuse to go to a hotel in the brothel district (depending on the quality of the free lancer). If you are planning on sticking with short time 1 hour brothel sessions, a hotel near Malio is perfect.Are freelancers the only option in terms of bringing girls back to your place? From freelance clubs specifically?
I was under the impression that you could bring girls from Malio back to your place as well? From what I read, it seems like most attractive girls you'd find would be at places like Malio?
Are freelancers the only option in terms of bringing girls back to your place? From freelance clubs specifically?
I was under the impression that you could bring girls from Malio back to your place as well? From what I read, it seems like most attractive girls you'd find would be at places like Malio?I believe you can book them out of Malio. If I'm not mistaken, they charge around 7 million rupiah for that (about 500 USD). Natty Bumpo may be the one to ask for that because I've never done it.
You can find free lancers on Tinder who will take 1 million rupiah if you have the time to work with that. CJs at hotel mulia always has free lancers at night. They are not as young as the girls in the brothels up north, but they provide better service.
Member #4698
10-25-18, 06:27
I believe you can book them out of Malio. If I'm not mistaken, they charge around 7 million rupiah for that (about 500 USD). Natty Bumpo may be the one to ask for that because I've never done it.Malio take out is not for me. For the price of one take away dancer (7 mil or thereabouts) you can have 3 Malio Dancers (at 2,080,000 rp each) in house with some change left over. That sounds like a lot more fun to me. It's a case where when in Rome do as the Romans do.
But the above (7 mil) is going the legal way by the books. I have had a number of couch girls in Malio & Malioboro, including my current Malioboro couch girl, offer to meet me at my hotel after they are through with work. My current little Malioboro girl said she was finished working at midnight. The last time I was with her we made a tentative date for last Thursday, but I told her I would LINE her 1st to firm things up and then I never Lined her. I didn't want to wait that long. LOL. I will still go back and see her a 3rd time before I leave town. She is a real nice girl. Her price would have been 1,1 mil same as in house, but she would spend the rest of the night so LT and she would keep 100% of the proceeds. It is not a bad deal, but for the original poster's question: 1st you have to meet a girl and start relationship in house and then see where it leads. Malio Dancers in my experience are tougher to nail down for extra curricular outside activities because they work late until closing and most I have met prefer to relax on their days off. But anything is possible with the right girl once you established a friendly ongoing relationship.
For take out in Jakarta, I recommend heading over to CJ's on Friday or Saturday night around 11 pm or same nights the Blok M bars later around 1 am. BTW, I was quoted a very high price by FL's in Bats and CJ's. 2 mil for ST and 3 mil LT. I told the Bats FL, who I thought was very pretty although a few pounds over my usual preference, that I thought 2 mil was a little high for ST. She acted offended and changed seats to move away from me with her less attractive girlfriend. I moved on to CJ's where a more attractive FL made some moves on me. Having learned from my previous encounter with the 1st FL, this time I countered the 2 mil offer with "I will give you 1. 5 AND if you make me happy I will give you good tip. " The girl immediately accepted my offer and later in my hotel room she delivered. I have never had a bad time with one of these 5 star hotelbar pick up FL's. This girl was no exception. I had a great time with her and gave her a 500,000 tip.
I think I wrote that one up in a previous report? Hard to keep track. You guys will have to forgive me. I am very slow in writing reports especially when I am still in the field. My report on my 1st week visits to Malio / Malioboro is almost ready for posting, but since then I have had some more great nights there and I do mean great, including one night with a Kazakhstan Asian ethnic girl that crossed one important item off my bucket list. Note: I am very into Indo girls, so believe me guys, this Kazak girl was really something to get me to walk away from the local honey if even for only one night. I have also had an amazing couple of nights at Emporium Hotel with 2 "VIP" girls. I love those two girls. That makes at least 10 girls in my top 5 new girl list this trip. 555. I have a date tonight to see Emporium girl #2 and I just met last night! 555. The hits keep rolling.
Stay thirsty,
NB.
Keen Eye Joe 1
10-25-18, 06:42
Sorry for posting another long winded report, but I haven't found any information here about Blok M sexy streetwalkers, so I thought I'd pass on what I learned.
For those of you who have visited the western bar area on JL Falatehan in Blok M, I'm sure that as your taxi got close that you've seen some streetwalkers on the adjacent streets. Usually they are standing next to a male pimp and his motorcycle. What's unusual about them is that most are dressed in eye-catching attire, with big heels and short skirts and are actually sexier and younger than a majority of the MyBar ladies.
Their clientele is men cruising in cars, with the action taking place in short-time hotels. I talked with one pimp and he had never seen a western customer before, especially one walking around in a semi-drunken stupor like me.
If you think of the western bar area as a rectangle, the bars are located on JL Falatehan (the west side of the rectangle). The streetwalkers are found on the north, east, and south sides (JL's Palatehan II, Pattimura, and Palatehan I) of the block.
Note: The naming of the streets in this area is goofy and initially threw me for a loop. JL Falatehan I (the bar road) is parallel to JL Palatehan and perpendicular to JL's Palatehan I and II. You think the city fathers could have made the names more distinct.
Sorry for the long explanation, I just wanted to make things a bit clearer for rookies like me.
On Wednesday, after my taxi made the left turn from JL Pattimura to JL Paletehan II, I noticed an intriguing woman standing on the left side. She was tall and willowy, with somewhat short hair and light skin. She was wearing a tiny tight black mini skirt, low cut tight top which bared her mid-drift, and some 6 inch ruby red slutty shoes. From a distance she was able to grab my libido, but I just passed her by.
My intent was to find another MyBar girl and by 1 am I had made my selection. Unfortunately I was short on cash, so I told the girl I had to run to the nearby ATM and would be back shortly.
But upon exiting the bar, the street was being invaded by at least 30 police / military personnel exiting open-backed SWAT trucks and dressed in olive drab fatigues. I had no idea why they were there or what bar (s) they were heading to, but as a guy who left his passport in the hotel room, my goal was to avoid detection and exit the area as quickly as possible.
So I walked to the ATM area at the south end of the street, then turned left and headed around the block northward on JL Pattimura.
I passed about 10 girls and talked to 2 pimps. Blowjobs were priced at 300,000 Rp and were to take place in a short-time hotel. I did not inquire about full service.
But I wanted to check out the sexy lady I saw on the drive in, and luckily she was still there.
Fortunately she knew enough "Streetwalker English" to communicate effectively. I offered 400,000 Rp for full-service short-time in my North Jakarta hotel and she agreed. We found a Bluebird taxi and were soon on our way. Not much talking but we communicated through naughty tactile touching.
I would estimate she was about 37 years old, with a slightly blemished face but possessing a perfect physique and no belly fat at all. Upon further examination in the room there were no tattoos, scars, bruising, or any outward signs of abuse.
Unfortunately we couldn't converse verbally very effectively, but her sexy body spoke the language we all know so well. For some reason I felt the compulsion to wear a condom for the blow job. As she leaned down toward my dick, she said, "I love blow jobs". Music to my ears. Fortunately she played my little buddy like a Stradivarius violin.
The oral was excellent, the nibbling and teasing was erotic, and her box fit my little friend like a velvet glove. Initially she was a bit hesitant about kissing, but she proved to be a fast learner. Upon reviewing the data, I would grade the experience as "above average".
Yes, there are so many safer, nicer, and more predictable venues in Jakarta for a similar price than a Blok M streetwalker. But for the guy who desires a bit of seediness and suspense in his pursuits, it might be worth a try.
If anyone is aware of other sexy streetwalker areas in Jakarta, please post the locations. Thanks.
Keen Eye Joe 1
10-25-18, 06:48
I have been visiting this area on and off for nearly 20 years but have never wandered down the road of "Ibu Linda" unless I was going to the old Stadium nightclub. I have always had a decent time in Kartika and often return for the body slide and extras. I have avoided Royal Mas and Berlian next door due to the loud music and ghastly smoke filled interiors.
Was Ibu Linda full of cigarette smoke too? I will in Jakarta in just over a week and will have a look around for myself. Thanks for the detailed reports.I didn't detect the scent of smoke. Also, unlike most spas in that area, the interior walls both in the lobby and upstairs were painted in a light color and were aesthetically pleasing. If there was music playing, the volume was very low because my girl dujour and I were able to easily carry on a conversation.
Thailand is a better option if you want ST or LT back in your room.
Malio take out is not for me. For the price of one take away dancer (7 mil or thereabouts) you can have 3 Malio Dancers (at 2,080,000 rp each) in house with some change left over. That sounds like a lot more fun to me. It's a case where when in Rome do as the Romans do.
But the above (7 mil) is going the legal way by the books. I have had a number of couch girls in Malio & Malioboro, including my current Malioboro couch girl, offer to meet me at my hotel after they are through with work. My current little Malioboro girl said she was finished working at midnight. The last time I was with her we made a tentative date for last Thursday, but I told her I would LINE her 1st to firm things up and then I never Lined her. I didn't want to wait that long. LOL. I will still go back and see her a 3rd time before I leave town. She is a real nice girl. Her price would have been 1,1 mil same as in house, but she would spend the rest of the night so LT and she would keep 100% of the proceeds. It is not a bad deal, but for the original poster's question: 1st you have to meet a girl and start relationship in house and then see where it leads. Malio Dancers in my experience are tougher to nail down for extra curricular outside activities because they work late until closing and most I have met prefer to relax on their days off. But anything is possible with the right girl once you established a friendly ongoing relationship.
For take out in Jakarta, I recommend heading over to CJ's on Friday or Saturday night around 11 pm or same nights the Blok M bars later around 1 am. BTW, I was quoted a very high price by FL's in Bats and CJ's. 2 mil for ST and 3 mil LT. I told the Bats FL, who I thought was very pretty although a few pounds over my usual preference, that I thought 2 mil was a little high for ST. She acted offended and changed seats to move away from me with her less attractive girlfriend. I moved on to CJ's where a more attractive FL made some moves on me. Having learned from my previous encounter with the 1st FL, this time I countered the 2 mil offer with "I will give you 1. 5 AND if you make me happy I will give you good tip. " The girl immediately accepted my offer and later in my hotel room she delivered. I have never had a bad time with one of these 5 star hotelbar pick up FL's. This girl was no exception. I had a great time with her and gave her a 500,000 tip.
I think I wrote that one up in a previous report? Hard to keep track. You guys will have to forgive me. I am very slow in writing reports especially when I am still in the field. My report on my 1st week visits to Malio / Malioboro is almost ready for posting, but since then I have had some more great nights there and I do mean great, including one night with a Kazakhstan Asian ethnic girl that crossed one important item off my bucket list. Note: I am very into Indo girls, so believe me guys, this Kazak girl was really something to get me to walk away from the local honey if even for only one night. I have also had an amazing couple of nights at Emporium Hotel with 2 "VIP" girls. I love those two girls. That makes at least 10 girls in my top 5 new girl list this trip. 555. I have a date tonight to see Emporium girl #2 and I just met last night! 555. The hits keep rolling.
Stay thirsty,
NB.Shit I'm an idiot LOL! I thought malio and maliboro were the same thing. Guess I need to do more research. But fuck me, at those rates I might as well stick to thailand. Not really big on freelancers as you don't get to see underneath till its too friggin late! Maybe Jakarta aint for me. Idk.
I thought malio and maliboro were the same thing. It's the same building, so it is basically the same place and the same thing. The back part is called Malio where they have lots of dancers and some girls sitting on the side couches you can take upstairs. Mailioboro is the front part of the building and also has dancers (but less than the Malio area does) but has far more girls seated around who you can choose from and take up stairs.
Banana Boi
10-25-18, 11:55
Shit I'm an idiot LOL! I thought malio and maliboro were the same thing. Guess I need to do more research. But fuck me, at those rates I might as well stick to thailand. Not really big on freelancers as you don't get to see underneath till its too friggin late! Maybe Jakarta aint for me. Idk.If you want takeout then you have to stick to places like CJs and BATS. You can get girls for under 2 million which is about the same price as a gogo girl for LT. Go on Ladies Night. There are places like Octagon karaoke that are in between CJs and Malio. If you like natural tits vs. Silicone or natural beauty then Jakarta is better. A top girl in Jakarta is pretty hot imo even at low budget places in Kota Indah and Classic / Travel. Classic and Travel rooms are spic and span if that is one of your concerns about doing girls in their bar.
Member #4733
10-25-18, 15:19
The basement level is 900,000, not the ground floor. I'm not sure how you could miss the entrance to the ground floor club if you take the escalators. It is just to the right of the up escalator. It opens later than the other floors and has a cover charge. If you are a westerner, they will not make you pay the cover charge when you leave even if you didn't buy anything. But locals and indians do get charged the cover regardless I believe. I think the cover is 50,000.I was there a few days ago. The upper floor is awful. I was horny but that definitely ended after the 10th fat and ugly girl I saw. Had to pay 30.000 just to peak around. Came back the next day and tried downstairs. Mamasan directed me to a girl and I had learned that you don't mess with mamasans. So I took a 19 yr old in a room. She was mostly clinging to my body with no action whatsoever. Rather beautiful but very bad. Paid 800.000 to management. Before I got in I was explicitly told that if I did not take a girl I would have to pay 100.000. That would have been the better option.
Maybe German SC have spoilt me too much but for sex I won't go to Asia anymore.
Blanquiceleste
10-25-18, 16:39
BTW, I was quoted a very high price by FL's in Bats and CJ's. 2 mil for ST and 3 mil LT. I told the Bats FL, who I thought was very pretty although a few pounds over my usual preference, that I thought 2 mil was a little high for ST. She acted offended and changed seats to move away from me with her less attractive girlfriend. Ooohhh. I really wonder what the most prolific poster on this thread will have to say about that.
Ooohhh. I really wonder what the most prolific poster on this thread will have to say about that.Who are you referring to?
Eszpresszo
10-26-18, 02:57
Thailand is a better option if you want ST or LT back in your room.How is it better in your experience?
I talked with one pimp and he had never seen a western customer before, especially one walking around in a semi-drunken stupor like me.He must be new then because I walk around those streets in a semi-drunken stupor often and almost always stop and talk to those girls. My Bar many times does not have any talent, so I like to take a stroll around the block to see what's on offer. There are some good looking ones on occasion. You mentioned the one you found was 37 years old, but there are some young ones as well. The worst thing is the young ones normally have their male friend seated on the motorbike behind them do all of their talking and I hate that. I can speak Indonesian, yet I still don't enjoy having to negotiate with those guys. It takes away from the fun.
If you drive near the Grand Mahakam hotel (not too far from Pelatehan), there are also some girls in the streets sometimes. And on Hayam Waruk near where Stadium used to be there are girls in the streets as well.
BruceBoksi
10-26-18, 11:33
If you want takeout then you have to stick to places like CJs and BATS. You can get girls for under 2 million which is about the same price as a gogo girl for LT. Go on Ladies Night. There are places like Octagon karaoke that are in between CJs and Malio. If you like natural tits vs. Silicone or natural beauty then Jakarta is better. A top girl in Jakarta is pretty hot imo even at low budget places in Kota Indah and Classic / Travel. Classic and Travel rooms are spic and span if that is one of your concerns about doing girls in their bar.I am in Hotel Travel now and think one girl for USD 20 or two girls for USD 35 is a pretty good deal giving the relatively good quality.
The worst thing is the young ones normally have their male friend seated on the motorbike behind them do all of their talking and I hate that.Most of those guys are a bit more than friends. LOL.
You would be aware of the old joke that going down on a streetwalker is the same a blowing a becak rider. . . 😁.
Cheers, G.
BruceBoksi
10-26-18, 11:37
I was there a few days ago. The upper floor is awful. I was horny but that definitely ended after the 10th fat and ugly girl I saw. Had to pay 30.000 just to peak around. Came back the next day and tried downstairs. Mamasan directed me to a girl and I had learned that you don't mess with mamasans. So I took a 19 yr old in a room. She was mostly clinging to my body with no action whatsoever. Rather beautiful but very bad. Paid 800.000 to management. Before I got in I was explicitly told that if I did not take a girl I would have to pay 100.000. That would have been the better option.
Maybe German SC have spoilt me too much but for sex I won't go to Asia anymore.I was in Classic two days ago at around 3 pm. Only 1 bar was open, think it was on second floor. Had to leave my work laptop (bag) outside at the security counter and I didn't like because nobody was at the counter and counter was about 10 meter from the entrance. Girls were still sleepy from the night before I guess so didn't have a friendly welcoming attitude.
If you think of the western bar area as a rectangle, the bars are located on JL Falatehan (the west side of the rectangle). The streetwalkers are found on the north, east, and south sides (JL's Palatehan II, Pattimura, and Palatehan I) of the block.
Note: The naming of the streets in this area is goofy and initially threw me for a loop. JL Falatehan I (the bar road) is parallel to JL Palatehan and perpendicular to JL's Palatehan I and II. You think the city fathers could have made the names more distinctWell, you learn something new every day.
I always thought Jl. Palatehan was just a mispronounciation of Jl. Falatehan just like "parmer" is used for farmer. I never distinguished between the two and used them interchangeably. No wonder I got a few strange looks from taxis. 🤔.
Thanks, G
I met this sexy little thing, at the LE Meridien bar a while back. I think she said her name was Erin? Had a very enjoyable all nighter with her for 3 million. She said she hadn't fucked in a long time and was definitely a tight, snug fit. She is a petite thing. But, damn did she enjoy it once I was inside of her. I thought the hotel was going to knock on the door or call us to keep it quiet.
Only drawback was a CBJ. I asked her for BBBJ, but she said no. Something about her boyfriend, lucky bastard!! So, that was a let down, but still she was very enjoyable. I couldn't believe her body when she was out of her clothes. She doesn't have the biggest chest, but they were all natural and she really liked the attention I paid to her girls. DATY was also quite exquisite, and she was smooth and very clean. We went through multiple positions and finished in doggie, which she said she really liked. I liked how she would reach back and stroke my nut sack, especially after coming. She was pushing everything out and into the condom, it felt great. A trick I wish more ladies would do. It's something I haven't stopped thinking about since seeing her.
She sent me this pic afterwards, I think to encourage my renting her out again! She was great fun!
MadVic.
I was there a few days ago. The upper floor is awful. I was horny but that definitely ended after the 10th fat and ugly girl I saw. Had to pay 30.000 just to peak around. Came back the next day and tried downstairs. Mamasan directed me to a girl and I had learned that you don't mess with mamasans. So I took a 19 yr old in a room. She was mostly clinging to my body with no action whatsoever. Rather beautiful but very bad. Paid 800.000 to management. Before I got in I was explicitly told that if I did not take a girl I would have to pay 100.000. That would have been the better option.
Maybe German SC have spoilt me too much but for sex I won't go to Asia anymore.Is this the same Classic? The prices you paid and the description of the girls do not match (by a long shot) what others have reported on here.
She sent me this pic afterwards, I think to encourage my renting her out again! She was great fun!
MadVic.Her skin looks flawless!
Blanquiceleste
10-27-18, 18:19
I met this sexy little thing, at the LE Meridien bar a while back. I think she said her name was Erin? Had a very enjoyable all nighter with her for 3 million. She said she hadn't fucked in a long time and was definitely a tight, snug fit. She is a petite thing. But, damn did she enjoy it once I was inside of her. I thought the hotel was going to knock on the door or call us to keep it quiet.
Only drawback was a CBJ. I asked her for BBBJ, but she said no. Something about her boyfriend, lucky bastard!! So, that was a let down, but still she was very enjoyable. I couldn't believe her body when she was out of her clothes. She doesn't have the biggest chest, but they were all natural and she really liked the attention I paid to her girls. DATY was also quite exquisite, and she was smooth and very clean. We went through multiple positions and finished in doggie, which she said she really liked. I liked how she would reach back and stroke my nut sack, especially after coming. She was pushing everything out and into the condom, it felt great. A trick I wish more ladies would do. It's something I haven't stopped thinking about since seeing her.
She sent me this pic afterwards, I think to encourage my renting her out again! She was great fun!
MadVic.Good job, and excellent choice.
Some folks on this thread will probably chide you for "paying too much" though. Keep it up mate!
Banana Boi
10-27-18, 21:54
Is this the same Classic? The prices you paid and the description of the girls do not match (by a long shot) what others have reported on here.I believe he went to Classic Spa. 100 k entry and 800 k for a session are what I recall spa pricing to be.
Good job, and excellent choice.
Some folks on this thread will probably chide you for "paying too much" though. Keep it up mate!I agree. I was about to rampage about over paying, CBJ yadda yadda yadda. However, the photo explains everything: very nice TaTas.
In the end it was his money and his time which he enjoyed. Well done!
Koperen Klaas
10-27-18, 23:04
I believe you can book them out of Malio. If I'm not mistaken, they charge around 7 million rupiah for that (about 500 USD). Natty Bumpo may be the one to ask for that because I've never done it.
You can find free lancers on Tinder who will take 1 million rupiah if you have the time to work with that. CJs at hotel mulia always has free lancers at night. They are not as young as the girls in the brothels up north, but they provide better service.Eastern Promise has started to be a gathering place for freelancers on live music nights. Check out the beer garden at the back of the complex. The last time I was there I recognised several girls who used to go to Top Gun.
Offshore Swell
10-27-18, 23:13
I agree. I was about to rampage about over paying, CBJ yadda yadda yadda. However, the photo explains everything: very nice TaTas.
In the end it was his money and his time which he enjoyed. Well done!For 3 M OS would have deposited a shot of little OS's deep inside her.
For 3 M OS would have deposited a shot of little OS's deep inside her.LOL, go for it. I think she hangs out at LE Meridien. Being such a snug fit, I don't know how deep you'd get with her though!
MadVic.
I agree. I was about to rampage about over paying, CBJ yadda yadda yadda. However, the photo explains everything: very nice TaTas.
In the end it was his money and his time which he enjoyed. Well done!Her stroking my nut sack and shaft, after coming, was what made it so damn memorable! Well that and her awesome chest. I'm still thinking about both and would rent her out again in a heart beat. And maybe, I'd convince her to go with the BBBJ. Something about her mouth told me it would be a damn good experience!!
MadVic.
Her stroking my nut sack and shaft, after coming, was what made it so damn memorable! Well that and her awesome chest. I'm still thinking about both and would rent her out again in a heart beat.Vic, no need to explain. You're preaching to the converted. LOL.
I once had a girl pinch my finger tips at the ideal moment. That simple act made the sensation incredible and feel like I was about to explode. I've tried many times but never been able repeat it. 🤔.
As I said you paid for and received a good time so well done.
And maybe, I'd convince her to go with the BBBJ. Something about her mouth told me it would be a damn good experience!!
MadVic.If you do return, remember that it's on your terms, not hers. No need to be an Ahole about it but state what you want (activities, duration, protection etc) and your fee and leave it to her to agree or otherwise. Don't ask what she's happy to do and the cost. When she counter offers, just thank her politely and decline. If your offer was researched and accurate she will soon agree. If she is wildly optimistic then there are many others to choose from.
Cheers, G.
Vic, no need to explain. You're preaching to the converted. LOL.
I once had a girl pinch my finger tips at the ideal moment. That simple act made the sensation incredible and feel like I was about to explode. I've tried many times but never been able repeat it. 🤔.Interesting. Damn, that would be something I would want to try! Thanks!
If you do return, remember that it's on your terms, not hers. No need to be an Ahole about it but state what you want (activities, duration, protection etc) and your fee and leave it to her to agree or otherwise. Don't ask what she's happy to do and the cost. When she counter offers, just thank her politely and decline. If your offer was researched and accurate she will soon agree. If she is wildly optimistic then there are many others to choose from.
Cheers, G.Not to sound like an asshole, but I've been a hobbyist for almost 30 years. Although, not that often in Indonesia. I am pretty familiar with how to approach my requests, with tact. And since she sent me a great picture, I think there may be possibilities. Even if it's not available, she was still a fun little thing for the night and then some. She did not want to scoot out at 7 AM.
Not to sound like an asshole, but I've been a hobbyist for almost 30 years. Although, not that often in Indonesia. I am pretty familiar with how to approach my requests, with tact. And since she sent me a great picture, I think there may be possibilities. Even if it's not available, she was still a fun little thing for the night and then some. She did not want to scoot out at 7 AM.My apologies. No offense intended.
I read your original report as you being a bit lost and letting her take the reins on what would (not) happen which was obviously incorrect.
Have a great time should you be able to return, G.
Member #4733
10-28-18, 10:34
Is this the same Classic? The prices you paid and the description of the girls do not match (by a long shot) what others have reported on here.I clearly wrote what I did. But in a concise way. And as I have not written all that much on this forum you might have questions, yes.
I replied to a post by Smoothy who gave an estimate of prices. I just wanted to make it more precise. The estimate of Smoothy doesn't differ too much from what I paid and was quoted. So there is no need for BB to suggest I went somewhere else. My MO is mostly 'just pick the most beautiful girl'. In Classic upstairs the 'beauty' of the girls is so depressing that I lost my huge appetite. Maybe others have lower expectations but I am used to Amsterdam RLD and German SC. The last years I have been to Bangkok and Jakarta. The only session that was satisfying was a girl in the Lord in Bangkok (now closed). Other girls were not beautiful enough or had a service level that is below my expectations. But I remember my first mongering sessions and then I was quite happy with girls and service levels that I just don't fancy anymore now. If e. G. An American comes to Indonesia and is used to pay 500 dollar for a fatty then he will be very happy. Well, I am used to pay 100 euro tops for a beauty. So, it may be due to expectations.
I will clarify a bit more. The first day I went to Classic upstairs and at the left side there are so many fatties that I just don't understand why they admit so many of these girls. On the right side it was a bit better but not one of them was really a stunner that could make me forget the fatties. So I left. Next day I went to Malio (few dancers, many girls on the side). I just wanted to have a drink and look around. Then I saw a dancer that was so damn beautiful, she could have asked me anything. But she was not available for sex. Not for me anyway. I asked again to another mamasan and again it was "Impossible". Then Mamasans and girls came to my table but I did not fancy one of them. Later I saw a girl that I liked. I asked mamasan about her and she led me to another girl and started to write a receipt or something. I was flabbergasted. I ask her about a girl and she simply gets me another one. Without asking. Without even one word spoken. I told her I would like to talk with my choice, maybe even talk to her choice but in no way I would accept being led to a girl and just session with her. So I left. Malio may have one very beautiful girl and a few that are OK but it is not crowded with beauties.
My libido was quite big and so I went to Classic downstairs. I simply accepted mamasan's choice as I really wanted a session here and now. Dire consequences.
So I just don't like Jakarta nor Bangkok very much. OK, Crazy House in Bkk for nude dancers, but that is the only thing that is really worthwhile.
I'm glad to see someone finally post a picture. In my opinion, no field report is worth a lot without one. Kudos for that and thanks for sharing! Great body and great tits. To find even a decent looking girl at LE Meridien is not an easy task these days. The place is dead.
Sure, 3 million is too much (that is 1 million more than I have given any girl in 20 years in Jakarta), it's about double the going rate. But the good thing about that is the girl that was overpaid was a LE Meridien pickup. Back in the early to mid 2000's, I loved going to the bar at LE Meridien (Tiga Puluh). I preferred it over BATS and CJs back then. Girls everywhere and a great party environment. Near the end of the night, girls were always on top of the bar in front of the stage dancing sexily. It was awesome. One night there, a girl took her clothes completely off and was dancing naked for a bit until security stopped her. I've never seen that at BATS or CJs! They had a lot of good band back then, and the public relations girl they had at the club at the time was an absolute stunner and extremely competent. Neither BATS nor CJs have any staff even close to as good as her.
Then, in the mid 2000's, they decided to "renovate" the bar. There was nothing at all wrong with it, but they "renovated" anyway. It was closed a good while and when they did open again, the "renovated" bar was worse than it was before. The sight lines to the stage had been restricted by huge poles rather than the smaller ones they had before. The newly renovated place wasn't a drastic change, but it was definitely a downgrade from what it had been. Another mistake they made was they re-opened with an all black band that was seemingly friends with the Nigerian drug dealers in town, and drug dealing became popular in the place when it reopened. JJs (a popular night spot in Thamrin) had just closed down and that was the place where the Nigerians had previously hung out. With that closing, and their ties to the band at Tiga Puluh, they relocated to Tiga Puluh when it reopened. It was ok at JJs because they stayed on the 2nd floor and people not looking to buy drugs never had to worry about them, but at Tiga Puluh, there was no special area for them so they congregated with everyone else. It was a recipe for failure for Tiga Puluh and when the place re-opened, it quickly lost it's stature as a club that can compete with BATS and CJs. One night, a guy reported to the LE Meridien staff that he had a bag stolen from him in Tiga Puluh bar that contained 15,000 usd. Why the hell is anyone walking around Tiga Puluh with a bag holding 15,000 usd in cash? It was an uncomfortable environment. The Nigerians are not there anymore, but neither is anyone else. I'm certainly not saying that all Nigerians deal drugs, but I think we all know there is a good number who do. I believe they hang out on Jalan Jaksa and Obama club at Blok M now. Some people say that Tiga Puluh closing down for a while was the main factor that caused the crowds to disappear. However, I think it had less to do with it being closed a while for renovation and more to do with the poor quality of the renovation and the environment when they first re-opened. BATS was closed for over 6 months after the Bali bombing as a security measure, and when they re-opened it was business as usual.
Unfortunately, from that point until now, LE Meridien is no longer a popular night spot and instead of three great options in town, only BATS and CJs are still viable options. However, if girls around town hear that girls are getting 3 million rupiah from guys at Tiga Puluh, that could possibly spur a resurgence of the place. Believe it or not, although Jakarta is a big city, word spreads in this town and girls talk to each other so they know what is going on. I wouldn't be surprised to see some new girls showing up at LE Meridien.
The mention of LE Meridien has brought up old memories from days gone by. I ran across this old post by The Reveller that I saved off the old and now defunct Jakarta blok m site that some of us used to frequent. (it's a damn shame Blok M is a shell of what it used to be) I found this entertaining reading it again today and thought I'd share it for everyone's amusement.
Quoting The Rev -.
"Ah, what would Blok M be without them! After years of painstaking study the Reveller has finally arrived at a taxonomy of the varieties of fauna to be found in south Jakarta, here presented to educate the novices among you and to amuse the cognoscenti.
Sharks.
The hardened professionals, they hunt in pairs or packs. Smart dressers, skilful users of make-up, they have X-ray vision that would make Superman weep and can spot their prey across a crowded bar with uncanny accuracy. They move in quickly and silently for the kill. English rarely gets beyond the "what you name, you buy me drink, you go home same me" stage.
QuickFits.
Named after the well-known UK car repair company that guarantees to replace your brakes, exhaust and / or tyres in less than ten minutes. Usually slim, attractive, and sexy, they ooze lust. But when you get them into the hotel room, they're out of their clothes and into bed faster than a grand-prix tyre change. They haven't even heard of foreplay, and as soon as you've come they've gone. Usually straight back to their bar of choice to line up the next victim.
Derelicts.
Older girls who are past their shelf-date, they home in on anyone with whom they have. Or think they have. An acquaintance, to cadge money for taxi / rent / sick child / sick parent / kid's school-fees / house repairs / phone bill / etc. Some display the remnants of bygone beauty, but many are now so brawny they could make a new career in the WWF.
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Should really be at home doing their homework. Skimpy little waifs, fragile and vulnerable looking, they invariably add at least three years to their real age. Smoke non-stop and have a sink-like capacity for whisky colas. Often very inexperienced. They know what the Naughty Bits are for, and what goes where, but not how, when, or why.
Sulks.
The attractive (and often highly intelligent) girls who sit morosely at the bar glaring into their drinks. Smoke heavily with obsessive intensity. Oblivious to the other girls, and don't even look at the guys. Some are getting over broken relationships, others suffering a general attack of angst or Weltschmertz. Beneath a frigid exterior they're actually seeking companionship and a bit of sympathy, and if they can be drawn out of their shells are excellent company.
Piranhas.
Once they smell blood, they are ruthless in their pursuit of a victim. They can gauge to a milligram their victim's blood-alcohol level, and respond accordingly. They home in on the erogenous zones, and you're lucky if you get to the pub door without shooting your bolt.
Leeches.
You've made the deadly mistake of taking these more than once. Thereafter you are "Theirs" and they will haunt you for the rest of your natural days. 'Fatal Attraction' has nothing on these harpies.
Psychos.
The basket-cases, girls who are completely out to lunch. Faces set in a rictus of a smile, with glazed and fixated eyes, they often have razor-scars on both arms and a can of Baygon in the handbag. Throw towering fits of rage and jealousy when 'their' guy ignores them, or suggests that they push off and leave him alone. Sometimes stalk guys round the Blok and cause embarrassing scenes. Pester non-stop on their handphones if they get hold of a victim's number.
Wallpaper.
These are the largely decorative totty, usually lounging around the walls and chatting to the bar staff. Seemingly oblivious to the guys, they have a glazed stare and are immune to the usual 'come hither' signals.
Brain-dead beauties.
These are the sultry, sexy, curvaceous, luscious creatures you could die for. Until you try to engage them in conversation. You then realise that they drop off the bottom of the IQ scale.
Sleeping beauties.
Vivacious and lively in the bar, as soon as you get them into the hotel room they become drowsy and fall into a deep coma. Not even a scale eight earthquake will wake them, and forget about Prince Charming. Fine if you're into necrophilia, otherwise a waste of time.
Butterflies.
Charming and attractive young creatures who flit from guy to guy to say Hello, share a joke, stop for a drink and a chat if invited. Wonderful smiles, flashing eyes, bubbly personalities. Bright and canny, they quickly sense a guy's mood and never outstay their welcome. Absolute gems.
Amateurs.
These are the occasional visitors, the quiet girls. They usually wear jeans or sensible skirts and woollen tops. They don't drink much, and rarely smoke. They don't wear much. Or any. Make up. They avoid the obvious Lotharios and loud-mouthed lechers, but quietly and efficiently attach themselves to the less vociferous guys. Often the best performers in bed, and they never argue about the remuneration.
Sylphs.
Slender, willowy young girls with wistful expressions and fawn-like gracefulness. Deep dark eyes, and fine exquisite features shadowed by gently swaying jet-black hair. They've got 'look, but don't touch' written all over them, and a quintessential femininity that you'll find nowhere else in the world. As they get older they usually become regular girlfriends of. And sometimes marry. Good-looking young expats.
Sirens.
Named after the mythical creatures, half bird and half woman, that lure sailors to destruction by the sweetness of their songs. These girls are the maddeningly attractive, stunningly sensuous control-freaks who get their kicks from leading guys on until they are quite besotted, mercilessly toying with their victims. And then dumping them. Some guys never recover from the experience.
Starfish.
Complete non-performers who become inert as soon as they hit the mattress. Like their marine counterparts, they just lie there with arms outstretched and legs wide apart. All the joie de vivre of a wet weekend in Torquay, and about as much sex-appeal as cold porridge. The more lively specimens are reported to mutter "you want pom-pom?" in a bored voice. This species, native to Indramayu, is closely related to the Australian Surfboard.
Scalp-hunters.
These girls aren't just after money. They're out to impress their friends by the number of guys they manage to notch up. A sub-species of the genus Shark, very popular with the blokes as they're singularly attractive and invariably good performers. Indeed, the host male not infrequently recommends the girl to all his mates, thereby unwittingly raising her peer-prestige rating.
Tag teams.
These girls pose as Best Friends and snare the unwitting victim into taking both of them, with hints of unbridled erotic pleasures to follow. But once in the hotel room they switch on the TV and chatter together non-stop (usually in Javanese), and instead of the exotic "two up" that was salaciously anticipated it's more like tag team wrestling. While one is vaguely active, the other is listlessly watching television. She then rolls over, taps her friend on the shoulder, and takes over while the one you were dallying with assumes the TV-watching role.
Scavengers.
These are the Hungry Girls. You've barely closed the hotel room door before they announce that they're ravenously hungry, and proceed to order half the room service menu. By the time the food has come and been devoured your libido has packed up and gone home, and if you've been carousing all night you're probably in the arms of Morpheus rather than the sweet young thing by your side.
Paradoxies.
This type has a disdainful, haughty demeanour. But punctuated by occasional flashes of eyes and pouting of lips. Pays exaggerated attention to another guy while she shimmies up to you. Disappears without warning for minutes on end while she secretly watches your every move from a distance, then greets you like a long-lost friend on her return. Pushes her best friend at you to see if you're tempted. Looks shocked and embarrassed when you ask her the inevitable question. Then drags you out of the bar and sets off like a rocket for the nearest hotel. Pure sinetron!
Barnacles.
These are the personable, friendly girls who just seem to latch on to you and become fixtures. Undemanding and unassuming, they're happy to sit with you, have a drink and a chat, and never ask for money or push you to go with them. They're often loners, for whom the bars and discos are a pleasant break from the tedium of a humdrum job or a claustrophobic family. Many are separated or divorced, and may have a kid or two to bring up single-handed.
Limpets.
These are the frotteuses who hook onto you and spend the night rubbing themselves lubriciously against your body. They aren't aggressive or forceful about it. Every contact is made to seem like a delicious accident, the girl pretending that nothing's happening while the guy's hormones spiral out of control and he risks shooting his bolt. They somehow contrive to get all their erogenous zones into contact with yours, giving a whole new meaning to thrills and spills.
OEMs.
These are generic look-alikes who pack the bars and discos. Instantly recognizable by their long black hair, pale complexions, slim figures and black outfits. Listless and bored, they rarely smile or show any sign of animation. All the vivacity of a telephone answering machine. Bussed into Jakarta as job lots from the remoter kampongs of Indramayu, they're re-branded as Blok M girls.
Gold-diggers.
These sleek and slinky harpies think you're a walking ATM. They demand the most expensive drinks in the bar, want you to buy them a handphone after the briefest acquaintance, expect you to pay their rent at the end of the month, and claim to have a string of costly family misfortunes that would keep a sinetron going for a year. If they hook a guy they dig in for the duration and life is one long demand for house, car, gold, jewellery and cosmetic surgery.
Pumpkins.
The Cinderella who suddenly vanishes into the night as midnight approaches, leaving you bereft in the bar with only your drinks tab for company. Even after promising an all-nighter invariably invents a feeble excuse for being unable to stay and scoots off after the briefest of clinches. You're left feeling like a mouse that got whacked by a trap and didn't even get to eat the cheese.
Edsels.
Named after the overpriced and over-engineered gas-guzzling luxury car that was one of the biggest flops in motoring history. Dresses up to the nines, typically high-heeled thigh-length boots, tight leatherette mini skirt, frilly translucent blouse and gaudy jacket. Usually wears a loopy hat on top of streak-bleached hair and totes a futuristic shiny plastic shoulder bag. Make-up way overdone, nails long and crimson, looks like something from a vampire be-movie. Demands the most exotic drinks in the house and turns her nose up at any bloke she considers can't afford her. Doesn't pull many guys, but provides priceless entertainment in the bar.
Retreads.
These girls are like car tyres that have been remoulded and given a new tread. The standard model is slim and trim from medication-boosted dieting, has straight black lustrous hair from industrial-strength dyes and chemicals, smooth pale complexion from a major replastering job, eyebrows scraped, shaped and rebuilt with impasto liner, eyelashes reinforced with heavy-duty all-weather mascara, eyes dark and glistening from synthetic belladonna. The luxury model includes silicon-enhanced nose, lips and mammaries. In the bar they look like a million dollars, and think they're worth a million rupiah.
Zombies.
Completely catatonic, these girls are dysfunctional wallflowers who stand limp and lifeless on the fringes of the bar staring vacuously into space. They don't dance, they don't talk to the guys. They don't even talk to each other. Chatting them up makes Mission Impossible seem like a doddle.
Jurassics.
These are the harbingers, the have-beens and never-wozzers who drift into the bar ahead of the young girls like flotsam and jetsam washed up by the evening tide. Their function is unknown. They occupy no clear ecological niche, serve no obvious purpose, and just sit around the bar, frumpish and inert, like time-worn statues in a jungle temple. There is a slightly more mobile version that clomps into the bar alongside the youngsters and hogs seats at the bar until pushed out by the guys or the bar staff.
Bandits.
These girls are a dangerous mutation, the next step in Blok M evolution. They have an infallible sixth sense that tells them if a guy is a regular with an expat salary, a regular with a local salary, or a visitor flush with expense account dollars. If he's a visitor they home straight in with "Hello, you buy me Long Island Tea, you go with me three hundred thousand, standard price, OK?" The expat-salary regular gets stung for the same drink but there's no mention of the price. Which will be a post-coital stick-up for 300 k or more. The local-salary regular is a last resort, the desperation option. If he looks interested she might push her luck and ask for a Gin and Tonic, otherwise it's a beer or soft and she knows she'll only get the flat rate of 200 k plus taksi. ".
Smoothy,
Quite an entertaining read. I recognize many of these species first-hand. This is sociology at its finest.
Eszpresszo
10-28-18, 21:17
I'm glad to see someone finally post a picture. In my opinion, no field report is worth a lot without one. Kudos for that and thanks for sharing!If you are trying to live vicariously through some other person's experience, perhaps. But, if you are looking for the info to have your own adventures, its all in the text. No amount of pretty pictures can substitute for up to date reports, so we don't waste our time and incur needless frustration. That's why I try to post detailed field reports shortly after my adventures. Besides, photos are too easily shared, borrowed and very often just pulled off the internet, which is a boundless image bank.
Yeah, I enjoy some eye candy. But, the sweetest is the one alone in front of you, that nobody else is looking at for the next 15/30/60 minutes that you paid for. And when that happens, taking photos is the last thing that crosses my mind.
Smoothy, '7 ages of girls' by the Rev deserve to be reposted too.
If you are trying to live vicariously... nobody else is looking at for the next 15/30/60 minutes, taking photos is the last thing that crosses my mind.Disagree. I frequently film my subjects performing their art (but don't post pics here because it's a hassle). Fantastic to relive the memory visually, aurally whenever I want to and in living color. If a picture paints a thousand words, a video paints 100,000. Furthermore, I highly doubt Mr. Smooth is living vicariously. He doesn't have to. I've seen some of his hotties and they are beautifully photogenic. Cut down on the coffee, man. It's affecting your judgement.
I usually stay at LE Meridien. Will be back there soon. I'm going to have to keep my eyes peeled for this little babe. I'll pay her 2-3 mill for an all nighter. Her body looks flawless. And those tits!
Thanks!
I usually stay at LE Meridien. Will be back there soon. I'm going to have to keep my eyes peeled for this little babe. I'll pay her 2-3 mill for an all nighter. Her body looks flawless. And those tits!
Thanks!With all the free press her price has probably gone up!!
She should give Vic a referal rebate. LOL.
Last night visited Malioboro. Atmosphere is very good with loud music. Always mamasum behind you.
Good looking girls but very costly compared to other clubs. 1 M is average price here.
If we are looking for short time with good looking ones, then this place is recommended.
Tommy Suharto
10-29-18, 08:11
(it's a damn shame Blok M is a shell of what it used to be)Yes, it is.
Defunct, but thankfully the site is still up to browse that awesome calendar they made.
http://jakartablokm.com/gallery/album-mybar-calendar/index.html
Yes, it is.
Defunct, but thankfully the site is still up to browse that awesome calendar they made.
http://jakartablokm.com/gallery/album-mybar-calendar/index.htmlI still have 4 of those calendars. LOL.
If you are trying to live vicariously through some other person's experience, perhaps. But, if you are looking for the info to have your own adventures, its all in the text. No amount of pretty pictures can substitute for up to date reports, so we don't waste our time and incur needless frustration. That's why I try to post detailed field reports shortly after my adventures. Besides, photos are too easily shared, borrowed and very often just pulled off the internet, which is a boundless image bank.
Yeah, I enjoy some eye candy. But, the sweetest is the one alone in front of you, that nobody else is looking at for the next 15/30/60 minutes that you paid for. And when that happens, taking photos is the last thing that crosses my mind.I would think that everyone on here has experienced all of those girl types the Rev mentions. There is nothing vicarious about it. I just posted it in case others found it amusing.
As far as text reports being so valuable. I do appreciate the text reports when they are related to places that have changed somewhat over the years. Such as Blok M. However, there are a lot of reports that are not interesting simply because it's the same old same old. Here's a challenge. Read a recent post on Malioboro, Hotel Classic, or penjay. Then scroll back and read a report on any of those places that was posted here 10 years ago. You won't notice one bit of difference. At least with the photos we can see what people are actually shagging. I hate it when someone says they paid 2 million but doesn't share a foto to provide context. She could have been a 9 or even a 6 for all we know without a foto. For the most part, the text field reports are nothing but a repeat of the same thing over and over again. Look how much interest this new report has generated by simply posting one photo from LE Meridien. That should show you what people find more interesting.
If you are trying to live vicariously through some other person's experience, perhaps. But, if you are looking for the info to have your own adventures, its all in the text. No amount of pretty pictures can substitute for up to date reports, so we don't waste our time and incur needless frustration. That's why I try to post detailed field reports shortly after my adventures. Besides, photos are too easily shared, borrowed and very often just pulled off the internet, which is a boundless image bank.
Yeah, I enjoy some eye candy. But, the sweetest is the one alone in front of you, that nobody else is looking at for the next 15/30/60 minutes that you paid for. And when that happens, taking photos is the last thing that crosses my mind.Totally agree. Ever seen a photo of a girl and when you see her in person she looks very different? It can fool you either way, in reality she can be better looking or worse looking. I much prefer a good trip report. Photos can be very misleading.
I would think that everyone on here has experienced all of those girl types the Rev mentions. There is nothing vicarious about it. I just posted it in case others found it amusing.
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Should really be at home doing their homework. Skimpy little waifs, fragile and vulnerable looking, they invariably add at least three years to their real age. Smoke non-stop and have a sink-like capacity for whisky colas. Often very inexperienced. They know what the Naughty Bits are for, and what goes where, but not how, when, or why.Remembering that Indo girls can be in "School" well into their 20's, it was nothing unusual to wake up from a mid-week tryst to find your special someone pulling on a uniform to head straight to class. This is where colours became very important. From memory, grey was no worries, blue was be careful and red was RUN. 🤤.
Jurassics.
These are the harbingers, the have-beens and never-wozzers who drift into the bar ahead of the young girls like flotsam and jetsam washed up by the evening tide. Their function is unknown. They occupy no clear ecological niche, serve no obvious purpose, and just sit around the bar, frumpish and inert, like time-worn statues in a jungle temple. There is a slightly more mobile version that clomps into the bar alongside the youngsters and hogs seats at the bar until pushed out by the guys or the bar staff.I was talking to a guy in a long gone Blok bar once, in between him serenading his latest conquest. When she turned so that the light hit the right angle you could see that she had an old ear to ear knife wound where some one had clearly tried to separate her head from the rest of her body. Now, I'm a bit slow but even I would recognise that as a sign of someone to be left alone.
Enjoy, G.
I clearly wrote what I did. But in a concise way. And as I have not written all that much on this forum you might have questions, yes.
I replied to a post by Smoothy who gave an estimate of prices. I just wanted to make it more precise. The estimate of Smoothy doesn't differ too much from what I paid and was quoted. So there is no need for BB to suggest I went somewhere else. My MO is mostly 'just pick the most beautiful girl'. In Classic upstairs the 'beauty' of the girls is so depressing that I lost my huge appetite. I'm sorry that things didn't work out for you. Jakarta is my favourite place to monger. I've been around a bit but there's something that keeps pulling me back to the big durian.
I asked you about the pricing of the Classic Hotel because I thought it was less than 400 K. (Not the 800 K you paid) Smoothy noted that the Spa in the basement is around 800 K and the performance there is much better. If you paid 800 K upstairs it seems much higher than what others report it to be.
Totally agree. Ever seen a photo of a girl and when you see her in person she looks very different? It can fool you either way, in reality she can be better looking or worse looking. I much prefer a good trip report. Photos can be very misleading.Using that logic, for your passport, you should just describe yourself using text rather than having an actual picture on it.
With all the free press her price has probably gone up!!
She should give Vic a referal rebate. LOL.LOL, yeah I want a discount!
By the way, it was 3 million total. We originally agreed to 2. 5 million for all night, but after I saw her body, which is pretty freaking awesome (as you can see in that damn teaser pic she sent me afterwards), I felt she deserved 3 million. She thanked me profusely. Since I don't poon that often in Indonesia, I don't know all the details of current rates. Compared to what one pays elsewhere in the world, I thought she was very fair.
And damn, I'm ready to go back for more!
MadVic.
Vic you are Mad.
When she asks for 2. 5 that's a position from which she expects to bargain you down, she never expected for you to offer more after that.
If she was SUPER smoking hot then about 1. 5 would suffice but even then I will get some abuse.
Its ok to ignore mongers who only pay a pittance, its quite likely they are not talking about the same thing.
But at 3 mill you have raised that girls expectations unnecessarily and in the process parted with some of your own money that would have been better spent on 2 really nice bottles of wine!!
Vic you are Mad.
When she asks for 2. 5 that's a position from which she expects to bargain you down, she never expected for you to offer more after that.
If she was SUPER smoking hot then about 1. 5 would suffice but even then I will get some abuse.
Its ok to ignore mongers who only pay a pittance, its quite likely they are not talking about the same thing.
But at 3 mill you have raised that girls expectations unnecessarily and in the process parted with some of your own money that would have been better spent on 2 really nice bottles of wine!!
Again, I don't poon often in Indonesia. I know what I pay in some other countries and it was reasonable. The half million tip was just because I was so damn impressed by her body and how she used it on me. And I really enjoyed her reaching back and stroking me during doggie, even after I came. She didn't just pull me out and go clean up. She kept me inside of her and pushed what she could out and into that condom. I'm still thinking about it !!
I doubt I messed up things for the guys who play there normally. I don't go to Indonesia that often. If you guys can get her for 1-1. 5 million, good on ya and enjoy!
MadVic.
Hi all,
Very short trip 5 days max budget is 500 k short time. I know it's Jakarta and plenty pussy, but would be better if I get some known service oriented pussy. Not only I am asking pussy but with a bow tie apologise. Hit me up on PM.
Smoothy, '7 ages of girls' by the Rev deserve to be reposted too.I don't have that one. Please feel free to post it if you have it.
Using that logic, for your passport, you should just describe yourself using text rather than having an actual picture on it.Hahaha, especially as the immigration officer, like the ISG reader, has no way of knowing what the individual in the photo looks like in person. LOL.
Member #4733
10-30-18, 19:50
I'm sorry that things didn't work out for you. Jakarta is my favourite place to monger. I've been around a bit but there's something that keeps pulling me back to the big durian.
I asked you about the pricing of the Classic Hotel because I thought it was less than 400 K. (Not the 800 K you paid) Smoothy noted that the Spa in the basement is around 800 K and the performance there is much better. If you paid 800 K upstairs it seems much higher than what others report it to be.Somehow I don't seem to get through to people when I tell about my experiences in Asia (Bangkok and Jakarta).
They are bad, very bad. Prices are enormous, beauty is average and service level is terrible.
No, I did not go upstairs to pay 800.000. I paid 800.000 downstairs. I stated that very clearly and I don't see why you turn that around.
The only explanation I can think of is that you simply cannot accept that Bangkok and Jakarta stink for sex. They cannot in any way compete with Europe.
So don't waste your time and money. I won't, for sure.
t you simply cannot accept that Bangkok and Jakarta stink for sex. They cannot in any way compete with Europe.
So don't waste your time and money. I won't, for sure.Certainly not something I will accept- I have mongered in over 20 countries on three continents and Bangkok and Jakarta are my two favorite big city mongering spots in the world.
Eszpresszo
10-30-18, 23:34
Somehow I don't seem to get through to people when I tell about my experiences in Asia (Bangkok and Jakarta).
They are bad, very bad. Prices are enormous, beauty is average and service level is terrible.
They cannot in any way compete with Europe.
So don't waste your time and money. I won't, for sure.You must have visited a different Asia than I visited, and perhaps your Europe is different from the one I have been visiting since 1978. Last time I was in Europe was three years ago. I had experiences from freelance provider in Berlin (the low-cost mongering capital of Western Europe) at just under 100 Euros for an hour. And that was the low end of the price range, not the average. Since then I had some very good service in the downscale X-house of Sanur for 300 k (17 Euros), which I told was paying too much.
I think the reason you "don't seem to get through to people" is because your story isn't plausible to any one who has actually punted around on various continents. In other words, they don't believe you, and neither do I.
I don't have that one. Please feel free to post it if you have it.OK, here it is. I hope I follow the rules.
http://jakartablokm.com/characters/seven-ages-of-girls.htm
The Seven Ages of Girls.
A journey through time.
The Reveller has defined and penned descriptions of more than twenty different types of girls, but this is a different view of the dear things. Not as individual types, but how they change over time, from their first bashful entrance as new girls to their exit as raddled derelicts.
The Newcomer.
Fresh from the kampong and still awestruck by the heaving metropolis of Jakarta, she hides away in a corner of the bar and watches timidly as her older friends and family perform their evening rituals.
She hasn't got any make-up on, her hair is short and 'sensibly' styled, and she wears a dowdy woollen top over a long skirt or blue jeans. She's a fledgling, a sweet young thing ignorant of the ways of the world and as yet unspoilt.
The Budding Beauty.
She now wears a tee shirt and more stylish jeans, and flat-soled shoes or sandals. Her hair is longer and set in a more fashionable style, and there's a hint of lipstick and eyebrow pencil on her face.
She's got her little coterie of friends, youngsters like herself, and chats coyly with the guys as she sits next to the disco dance floor. She sips a soft drink, hasn't yet discovered the terrors and delights of the Hard Stuff.
The Rising Star.
She's now got poise, and radiates demure self-confidence. Her hair is shoulder-length and well groomed, sleek and glossy, and she's learning the art of make-up. The lipstick has given way to lip-gloss, there's a subtle hint of eye shadow and just a smidgen of mascara. Her nails are nicely manicured, and glossed with plain varnish.
She's just got her first hand phone, one of the budget models, and is rapidly learning its power as she sifts through the SMS messages and giggles naughtily at the blandishments from her growing band of beaux. Her rising status is signalled by gold and jewellery. Small glittering earrings, a few bangles on her arm, perhaps a necklace and pendant, and maybe even an ankle chain. This isn't worn to impress the guys, but to establish her place in the girls' pecking order.
She's graduated from soft drinks, and her tipple of choice is whisky cola or gin and tonic. She'll also jump at the more exotic (and expensive) mixtures. Not because she likes them, but because the bar owners will be pleased with the trade she generates, and award her Most Favoured Girl status. Another fashion accessory is the cigarette, which she handles rather gauchely and inhales with frowning intensity.
The Sophisticate.
Gone are the jeans and tee shirts, she now wears a designer dress. A slinky clinging model, a skimpy mini, perhaps a thigh-split long dress. She's also learnt the importance of a nicely padded bra and elegant high-heeled shoes. The make up is immaculate, and speaks of afternoons bowed in front of a mirror worshipping at the altar of beauty.
Her hand phone is the dernier cri, sleek and sexy. And of course, with integrated camera. Her jewellery is reassuringly heavy and chunky and she sports a designer watch. She has perfected the art of smoking, and every movement is beautifully choreographed. Just to watch her light up is a feast to the eyes.
She's the centre of attraction, holding court at the best table in the bar, laughing and chattering with the older big spenders and the young bucks as they queue up to pay court and ply her with expensive drinks. She'll dance with a favoured few, and flirt quite outrageously so as to make the other besotted guys ache with jealousy.
The Belle.
She's now one of the grandes dames of the Blok, mature and confident and at the height of her powers. Her reputation goes before her, everybody know her. She has at least one of the guys in tow as her regular beau or boyfriend, and bestows her favours amongst a very select patronage.
But all is not quite as it seems. Age is slowly and subtly undermining her beauty, so more skill and care than ever is applied to the choice of clothes, and to the make-up ritual. She is now a creature of the night, and heavy drinking and smoking have taken their cruel and inevitable toll. As she watches a younger generation blossoming around her, she feels the first cold draught of competition.
To keep up the pace she needs some assistance. And if alcohol and nicotine don't hit the spot, there's narcotics. She enters the shadowy world of artificial stimulants, and starts popping Ecstasy. Or worse.
The Aging Femme Fatale.
The figure has filled out, the face is becoming taught and drawn, the hair has lost its lustre. She's keenly aware that she's no longer the svelte beauty of her youth, and sees the youngsters edging her out of the limelight. But she's still attractive; and in the half-light of the bar, from the right angle, can still make heads turn.
The make-up is now artfully applied to hide the telltale signs of aging; coloured eye shadow, dark eyebrow liner, artificial eyelashes, are the order of the day. Her hair is now worn long, down to the waist even, and she wears glitzy short dresses that enhance the rounder figure.
But what she lacks in beauty, she makes up for in experience. She knows all the tricks (and most of the guys), so she adapts. After so long in the demi-monde of Blok M she speaks passable English, has a fund of knowledge and experience, and enjoys drinking and chatting with the guys who appreciate good company.
Like a mother hen, she takes some of the more vulnerable youngsters under her wing and guides them through their initiation into Blok life. She takes vicarious pleasure in their little joys and triumphs, and has saved many a fledgling from emotional disaster.
The Derelict.
Last scene of all, she's now a blown rose whose beauty has withered. The body and the features have a saggy coarseness that no sexy dress, no amount of make-up, can hide. She puts on a brave face and, like the old trooper that she is, still slips quietly into the bar and sits, unobtrusively, watching the pageant with graceful nostalgia. She'll chat with the other old girls of her generation, nursing a drink and whiling away the hours in amiable conversation.
She has a bevy of youngsters under her tutelage, to whom she plays the role of surrogate mother and, very often, of mamasan. She'll fix up the new or inexperienced guys with a partner, in return for a drink or a bit of taxi money.
Until one day she no longer appears in the bar, and after a few nights is no more than a fading memory. ".
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