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Visited Hotel Travel last night and noticed they increased the price to 390 k, was told this was since January.
Had the absolute worst experience ever in all of my visits to travel and classic as well, hope that isn't a permanent thing.
A very interesting report Hihi Ster. I, being a solo customer, just took my girl(s) to a private room, no pool action. The price for that was 1400 rp plus the 200 rp drink minimum. Indonesian girl quality at 1001 is very good and plentiful. (I found their imports to be overpriced and unattractive however.) But sadly, my stats at 1001 were only 50:50 e.g. 2 of my 4 girls refused to give a BBBJ and management refused my request for a substitute on the 2nd CBJ girl telling me CBJ's were a mandatory rule of the house. The dumb bastard manager even wanted to know the names of my "good" girls, the ones that gave me BBBJ's. So, although I am less than thrilled with the service I recieved, I have not yet written 1001 off completely. My 2 negative experiences might have been due to plain old bad luck. I am still in touch with my 2 "good" 1001 girls and plan to see them on the side. I also plan to give the joint itself another try next trip because they do have a most delectable assortment of young Indo girls. Ha Ha.
By comparison, I always received everything I wanted and sometimes a lot more at 1001's sister shop, the Emporium and of course over at the competition, Malio & Malioboro. But I am glad you and your friends had a great time at 1001. I hope my 50:50 experience was an anomaly.
Rock on!From what I saw nobody was using condoms for the BJ's, but this is my first experience with the spa at 1001. Have had various karaoke girls which was all BBBJ and some BBFS as well. Guess it depends on your luck and the girl.
In saying that I do agree with your assessment of Emporivm, the girls are exceptionally well trained and service oriented. I have yet to encounter a bad experience there (knock on wood), and all girls there so far jumped right on, with the condom laying all prepared next to us..
It is, but has been renamed "108 The new atmosphere".Great, any word on prices or the current talent?
Worth visiting these days?
Banana Boi
03-23-19, 18:32
I will say that the one place in kota indah that does have nice rooms is New Sari Ayu. Still not as nice or big as Hotel Classic, but better than the other places in KI.Sari ayu and some of the rooms in Royal are the best KI rooms. A couple of the rooms in LA on the top floor I think are OK but very hot. Starmoon rooms small. MTR is a closet.
For Classic get mamasan to put you in a VIP room as part of the agreement to go to a room. I've posted photos of the VIP rooms before. Very large. Very nice.
For Classic get mamasan to put you in a VIP room as part of the agreement to go to a room. I've posted photos of the VIP rooms before. Very large. Very nice.Even the normal rooms at Hotel Classic are quite nice. The VIP rooms are excellent.
Even the normal rooms at Hotel Classic are quite nice. The VIP rooms are excellent.How much is the VIP rooms at Classic?
And is it for the classic place on second floor or the top floor?
I found they both had same type rooms.
Does anyone know if any of the Classic type places let you book to take a girl out to your hotel and how much it be?
I rather take girl couple hours my hotel than use their rooms, more comfortable as I stay in nice hotels and a waste not having a girl to take their.
Ggekko2009
03-26-19, 18:31
I had been to Classics once several years ago but mainly to accompany someone there. I visited Classics again last Thursday with a friend after our visit both to CJ and BATS that same night. He had read about both CJ and BATS and wanted to check out the ladies there. He found most of them too mature for his taste, and there we were ending up in Classics on the fifth floor.
There was a minimal cover charge to enter, and upon entering, there were like five girls in see through lingerie dancing lamely on stage. The place was not crowded and we picked a spot to sit. The mamasan would soon trot along her girls and made them sit next to us. We always like to observe first from a distance and do not like this kind of pressure tactic. Anyway, the mommy assured us there is no obligation, and we can turn down the girls if we don't feel right with them. My friend was not interested in the girl assigned to him at first and was asking if there were other girls. Another girl was brought to him while the first one continued to thrust herself onto him. Anyway, an offer was made from the Mamasan for these two girls for 500 K and he took it.
In the meantime, the girl assigned to me sat at an arms lenght next to me and was very shy. We chatted briefly and I asked her where she is from (Palembang) and how long has she had worked at Classics (two weeks). I had no intention of sessioning with any girls there, but I liked that girl and off we go. Even though she is quiet and reserved, but once in the room (which was surprisingly nice) , she was very GFE, responding and enjoying every bit of our physical encounter. We exchanged our WhatsApp after that, tipped her and she wanted me to come see her again soon.
Two days passed and I received WA messages from her asking if I would like to see her again. I later learned that she had been out sick for the last two days after she saw me. She was hoping that she can make up for the lost two days.
As promised, I visited her that night. I needed that release since I was still trying to get rid of the hangover from all the heavy drinking and partying at Coloseum the previous night with a group of friends. (By the way, I learned that you can have the security act as your pimp with the right tip. My local friend gave him 100 k to help us find a FL from the dance floor for my friend who came along to the party without an escort while I had two, a sister pair, already lined up for me.) Anyway, that was for another part of the report.
After my session with the Classic girl, it is what came next or more on what I learned that really disturbed me. She was tricked into working at Classic by her friend who advertised the work as Lady Companion for KTV. When coming here then she learned otherwise. By then, it is too late and she is already in debt. This mafia gang has a system that makes them go continously into debt and is forced to stay confined in their residence hall pretty much like prisoners. Essentially they are sex slaves. She can't leave and she is forced to continue working until all her debts are paid off.
After hearing all these, I kind of estimate how much she owed and towards the end, gave her that amount plus a bit more. I told her that hopefully it can give her a headstart and helped her out of this spiraling debt. I told her that should she continues this line of work, it is because she wants to and not because she is forced into it. She was so surprised that I did that and even second guessed my intention and asked if I am serious even after I had handed her the cash. I assured her there is no strings attached.
It did not make me feel good one way or another and I am pretty much done with Classics or any other places like these in the future.
He had read about both CJ and BATS and wanted to check out the ladies there. He found most of them too mature for his taste,I agree that the young 20 year olds at CJs are more mature than they are at places like Hotel Classic. They have to be in order to survive. However, there are some very immature girls at CJs that are over 30 years old.
Member #4698
03-27-19, 01:12
After my session with the Classic girl, it is what came next or more on what I learned that really disturbed me. She was tricked into working at Classic by her friend who advertised the work as Lady Companion for KTV. When coming here then she learned otherwise. By then, it is too late and she is already in debt. This mafia gang has a system that makes them go continously into debt and is forced to stay confined in their residence hall pretty much like prisoners. Essentially they are sex slaves. She can't leave and she is forced to continue working until all her debts are paid off.
After hearing all these, I kind of estimate how much she owed and towards the end, gave her that amount plus a bit more. I told her that hopefully it can give her a headstart and helped her out of this spiraling debt. I told her that should she continues this line of work, it is because she wants to and not because she is forced into it. She was so surprised that I did that and even second guessed my intention and asked if I am serious even after I had handed her the cash. I assured her there is no strings attached.
It did not make me feel good one way or another and I am pretty much done with Classics or any other places like these in the future.Hey Ggekko, I am not sure what the girl told you is 100% reliable, but you did what you thought was the right thing to do, so I can't fault you there, just I would not make a habit of saving young working girls if I were you. 555. BTW if you don't mind my asking, how much did you give her?
Point #2: I fully understand that whatever you gave, you gave with no strings atttached, BUT, IMHO, you would be loco not to see her again, away from Classic, if & when she texts you. She is a big girl now. If she wants to show you her gratitude why not let her? I would if I liked her and thought she was sexy.
Point #3: I also do not understand why you say your act of kindness did not make you feel good. I would think that your act of charity in helping a poor waif out of her misfortune would make you feel real good unless of course you think she might have duped you or that the money will not do any lasting good ie she will continue on in her profession and since her story worked once with you, she will try the con again and again on future customers. That's why I only tip for good service or when I like a girl. I never buy into a story especially from a girl I just met and send her money. My best girls never ask for money. They are the ones I have known for the longest time and the ones I am the most generous with.
Knplyklstrfkho
03-27-19, 02:52
Does anyone know if any of the Classic type places let you book to take a girl out to your hotel and how much it be?
I rather take girl couple hours my hotel than use their rooms, more comfortable as I stay in nice hotels and a waste not having a girl to take their.I have done this for roughly 1 mil IDR. The girl was pretty.
Ggekko2009
03-27-19, 05:20
Hey Ggekko, I am not sure what the girl told you is 100% reliable, but you did what you thought was the right thing to do, so I can't fault you there, just I would not make a habit of saving young working girls if I were you. 555. BTW if you don't mind my asking, how much did you give her?
The amount was ridiculously small to me at least, though not an insignificant amount, but still small in light of things. Her debt at this stage was 3 million, and it is a sorry state to see her being forced into this situation for such an amount. I used the leftover cash that I had from the previous night that I had set aside for a threesome that did not actually materialize.
Point #2: I fully understand that whatever you gave, you gave with no strings atttached, BUT, IMHO, you would be loco not to see her again, away from Classic, if & when she texts you. She is a big girl now. If she wants to show you her gratitude why not let her? I would if I liked her and thought she was sexy.
I believe she is grateful for what I did. If she wants to see me again on her own free will, I would definitely take it. I have her contact and I would definitely look her up again should I stop over in Jakarta in the future.
Point #3: I also do not understand why you say your act of kindness did not make you feel good. I would think that your act of charity in helping a poor waif out of her misfortune would make you feel real good unless of course you think she might have duped you or that the money will not do any lasting good ie she will continue on in her profession and since her story worked once with you, she will try the con again and again on future customers. That's why I only tip for good service or when I like a girl. I never buy into a story especially from a girl I just met and send her money. My best girls never ask for money. They are the ones I have known for the longest time and the ones I am the most generous with.This to me is more philosophical. I always feel and have argued that prostitution should be legal and the government should stay away from our lives since these are transactions done between two consenting adults, maybe at times more than two for me, LOL. That is why I appreciate the wisdom of countries where such practices are legal, countries like Germany, Colombia and heck even Singapore. However, the keyword is consenting. Such practices in places like Classic to me feel like coercion, and it gives hobbyist like me a bad name. By the way, she never asked from me any money at any point in time at all. We were just chatting and I get to learn about her story.
Pedros Needs
03-27-19, 06:14
The amount was ridiculously small to me at least, though not an insignificant amount, but still small in light of things. Her debt at this stage was 3 million, and it is a sorry state to see her being forced into this situation for such an amount. I used the leftover cash that I had from the previous night that I had set aside for a threesome that did not actually materialize.
I believe she is grateful for what I did. If she wants to see me again on her own free will, I would definitely take it. I have her contact and I would definitely look her up again should I stop over in Jakarta in the future.
This to me is more philosophical. I always feel and have argued that prostitution should be legal and the government should stay away from our lives since these are transactions done between two consenting adults, maybe at times more than two for me, LOL. That is why I appreciate the wisdom of countries where such practices are legal, countries like Germany, Colombia and heck even Singapore. However, the keyword is consenting. Such practices in places like Classic to me feel like coercion, and it gives hobbyist like me a bad name. By the way, she never asked from me any money at any point in time at all. We were just chatting and I get to learn about her story.Mate,
I don't think the comments were a criticism, nor are mine as on the odd occasion I have been known to offer some help beyond what is expected as well.
When I read it my initial thought was as I hear this sort of story repeatedly and that you were almost certainly sucked in, I know if I listened to every sob story I heard and dipped in to my pocket to assist I would have no funds left to play the game.
We all learn and again if you felt satisfied assisting her, all's good, but my best guess is she will still be there in a few months time telling the same story to the next punter.
Pedro.
Offshore Swell
03-27-19, 10:09
After my session with the Classic girl, it is what came next or more on what I learned that really disturbed me. She was tricked into working at Classic by her friend who advertised the work as Lady Companion for KTV. When coming here then she learned otherwise. By then, it is too late and she is already in debt. This mafia gang has a system that makes them go continously into debt and is forced to stay confined in their residence hall pretty much like prisoners. Essentially they are sex slaves. She can't leave and she is forced to continue working until all her debts are paid off.
After hearing all these, I kind of estimate how much she owed and towards the end, gave her that amount plus a bit more. I told her that hopefully it can give her a headstart and helped her out of this spiraling debt. I told her that should she continues this line of work, it is because she wants to and not because she is forced into it. She was so surprised that I did that and even second guessed my intention and asked if I am serious even after I had handed her the cash. I assured her there is no strings attached.
It did not make me feel good one way or another and I am pretty much done with Classics or any other places like these in the future.Nice work Mr Gekko.
Your girl's story has quite a good chance of being correct. OS often asks the girls as to the circumstances of why they are there and the story your girl told you is very common. They are given loans for family emergencies, medical care, to build a house for parents, brothers schooling etc etc and then they are brought to Jakarta and offered around Classic, the Kota Indah bars, Medika and the bars where the locals go by brokers. They go under the care of minders who get them to and from work which are the guys you see on motorbikes taking the girls away at closing time back to the mess. The minders are generally OK and treat the girls well. They are not permitted to have relationships with the girls but they are also representing the debt holders interests so collect salaries etc. Your tip money is what she will use for day to day food and living.
OS has also given a girl he took out for the night from Kota Indah the cash to settle out her debt. 3 million is quite a small debt, some of them will have 6,8 even up to 15 M debt. OS handed over 10 M in pounds and euros with specific instructions of how to change at the money changer and what rates to expect. She cried!.
It took her another 4 weeks to get out and last time OS heard from her she was staying with her sister in Tangerang. She really wanted to catch up again but OS was cautious about her getting too attached so never got to Tangerang. She was just a really sweet girl straight from the kampung who was a little bit in shock as to how she came to be where she was and it was only after a while lying there post coitus in bed playing with her very generous boobies that OS managed to tease the story out of her. But no regrets. Morally though, like you say, each to their own as to how comfortable they are with that knowledge.
So full points to you Mr Gekko for caring. Jakarta is awash with scams, OS has had taxi drivers crying in the taxi while relaying the story of sick baby / dead wife / motorbike accident and his steely heart does not flinch but sometimes these stories from these girls are true and from what OS knows from his illustrious career socialising with them Is that the story you were told is not uncommon. Sometimes you need to trust your heart.
Hope that helps.
OS.
I bet she's working at Classic tonight.
OS has had taxi drivers crying in the taxi while relaying the story of sick baby / dead wife / motorbike accident and his steely heart does not flinch but sometimes these stories from these girls are true and from what OS knows from his illustrious career socialising with them Is that the story you were told is not uncommon. Sometimes you need to trust your heart.I've only had 2 taxi drivers do that, but like you, my heart did not flinch and I gave them nothing. I have given many girls "extra" money over the years though. I never donate to any proper charities, but I do consider myself to be quite the philanthropist. I will be going to Heaven without a doubt as I have done my part in helping these young girls.
Not saying each and every one of them is a scamming cry wolf but 90% are. I use Grab and never had any issues. Friend of mine who lives in Bandung now, used to live In Jakarta and drive Grab in Jakarta before, told me all the stories he heard from Taxi drivers of scamming people, specially expats / tourist.
Apparently it's their snack time entertainment stories, so don't let them take advantage of your good will.
I've only had 2 taxi drivers do that, but like you, my heart did not flinch and I gave them nothing. I have given many girls "extra" money over the years though. I never donate to any proper charities, but I do consider myself to be quite the philanthropist. I will be going to Heaven without a doubt as I have done my part in helping these young girls.
No such thing call bar fine and don't even acknowledge if they try to say something like that. Pretend that, that's the stupidest thing you have ever heard and made it sound like funny.
You would have to try that by late night 1 pm to 2 pm and talk to Mama. My suggestion, take the girl for a round first and see how things goes between 2 of you. Also, ask the girl for her number and tell her you would like to take her to your hotel room. If she buzzes on your offer, she will do the talking and convincing with Mama. Alternatively, you can negotiate with mama as well. I had good luck dealing with mama once as she knew me from previous visit and girl was ready as well.
Second opinion would be, arrange a meet with the girl later on in your room but don't pay her anything more than 1 mill for couple of shot. Chances are she will visit you before starting her shift in the evening. Fresh catch of the day.
Does anyone know if any of the Classic type places let you book to take a girl out to your hotel and how much it be?
I rather take girl couple hours my hotel than use their rooms, more comfortable as I stay in nice hotels and a waste not having a girl to take their.
All the hotel rooms are on Second and Third floor of the hotel side. I've stayed the 2 x in a standard room with breakfast and it's decent for the price. Hot water, TV, In room safe pretty much everything standard amenities wise. Come is book smoking and. On smoking rooms as they advertise but I'm sure all of them are smoking allowed.
Business Standard rooms are bit larger in size compared to a standard and comes with a couch. Price wise. Almost 2 x the price of the standard room unless you have good negotiation skills and get lucky. I think they only have 4 of this type room.
VIP rooms are the largest type of room and much more space. Living room area is 2 steps higher than bedroom area. Even though it's the same room. Comes with larger sofa and I believe one room has balcony. Price wise higher than business standard type room. I believe I was quoted. 875 mill but can't recall my memory well as that was 2 years ago.
Best thing I like about staying in Classic hotel is, you are steps away from the entertainment complex and can order in room massage from the hotel reception for 100 thousand IDR and hour which was decent. You Can always negotiate extra.
How much is the VIP rooms at Classic?
And is it for the classic place on second floor or the top floor?
I found they both had same type rooms.
After hearing all these, I kind of estimate how much she owed and towards the end, gave her that amount plus a bit more. I told her that hopefully it can give her a headstart and helped her out of this spiraling debt. I told her that should she continues this line of work, it is because she wants to and not because she is forced into it. She was so surprised that I did that and even second guessed my intention and asked if I am serious even after I had handed her the cash. I assured her there is no strings attached.
It did not make me feel good one way or another and I am pretty much done with Classics or any other places like these in the future.It's a good deed and you should feel good about it. Even if someone may say that you may have been taken for a ride, it is the thought of doing something good that should be counted.
There was this girl at Fashion whom I helped like this but in her case, she had to go for another debt for her father's medical conditions for which she had to continue for a few more months though her previous debt was cleared.
But the wrong part was that somehow she told others about me and then other girls used to think that I have fallen for her and would not go with me but advise me to take her only. And she too somehow waited for me even sometime feigning illness for other customers.
I also helped a girl in another city by enrolling her son in a missionary school. Whenever I visit the city she will meet me or at least try to meet me even if she is married to another person.
No such thing call bar fine and don't even acknowledge if they try to say something like that. Pretend that, that's the stupidest thing you have ever heard and made it sound like funny.
You would have to try that by late night 1 pm to 2 pm and talk to Mama. My suggestion, take the girl for a round first and see how things goes between 2 of you. Also, ask the girl for her number and tell her you would like to take her to your hotel room. If she buzzes on your offer, she will do the talking and convincing with Mama. Alternatively, you can negotiate with mama as well. I had good luck dealing with mama once as she knew me from previous visit and girl was ready as well.
Second opinion would be, arrange a meet with the girl later on in your room but don't pay her anything more than 1 mill for couple of shot. Chances are she will visit you before starting her shift in the evening. Fresh catch of the day.Sorry to say, but it seems you don't know what you are talking about. Read Offshore Swell's recent post. That is how it works.
When you are "talking to Mama", that is a negotiation to, for all intensive purposes, pay her bar fine. If you are pulling the girl near closing time (1 or 2 am), it is cheaper than earlier in the day / night. But you still have to pay around 1. 6 million rupiah even talking to the mama that late at night if you want the girl to stay with you in your room until morning. The mama has to clear it with the manager as well, it's not just her you are negotiating with. Places like Hotel Classic basically own these girls. (again, read Offshore swell's post).
The chance of the girl stopping by your room right before work for a "fresh catch of the day" sexual romp is slim and none due to the reasons mentioned in Offshore Swell's post. They control those girls completely, no way are they going to allow that.
Ggekko2009
03-28-19, 18:01
It's a good deed and you should feel good about it. Even if someone may say that you may have been taken for a ride, it is the thought of doing something good that should be counted.
There was this girl at Fashion whom I helped like this but in her case, she had to go for another debt for her father's medical conditions for which she had to continue for a few more months though her previous debt was cleared.
But the wrong part was that somehow she told others about me and then other girls used to think that I have fallen for her and would not go with me but advise me to take her only. And she too somehow waited for me even sometime feigning illness for other customers.
I also helped a girl in another city by enrolling her son in a missionary school. Whenever I visit the city she will meet me or at least try to meet me even if she is married to another person.The Classic girl whom I had helped actually fled the next morning. She used the money to pay what she owed for boarding, bought the bus fare to Palembang. Good for her that I can help.
Unfortunately her minder knows where she lives and threatened her to pay back the remainder of what she owed. She was radio silent for two days until she had no choice but to contact me to ask for help. She needed the remaining 1 million to get this mafia from pursuing her anymore. Unfortunately, I have already left Indonesia but I was able to ask my local friend for a favor to wire her the money.
I know there is no 100% certainty if this is in fact the case, but it is not a lot of money anyway. If it is true, then I have just helped her get on with a new live. Knowing that, I genuinely feel great now.
I don't meant to confuse you or anyone with my experience and no disrespect to anyone's reviews and information either.
I stayed at Classic hotel on the first week of February and wasn't my first visit and won't be last. Because of my frequent visits I'm friends with hotel staff and Terminal 2 staff. I walk in without paying any entry fee and not being search by security guard. I step out to hangout with the staff and to have a smoke in middle of night even without settling the bills. I know some of the mamas and they knows my taste. I don't get harassed by any mama either to take a girl as I walk in. Even some tor the waitress knows what beer I like and when to get a refill. I respect them and treat them well and tip them well and that goes a long way.
I had seen 2 girls in my hotel room and had a threesome before they started their shift for a very decent price. I had taken girls to my room at 2 am and kept her till the morning for again a very decent price. I don't haggle and bargain with them and tip them well. Classic is not a prison and girls are not prisoners. Yes, they are controlled heavily but not against their will.
It all depends on ones approach, attitude and intellectual on how to gain privilege. To sum it up. I know exactly what I'm talking about. I'm not here to pick-on or point fingers. I'm here to share my experience and to assist fellow mongers to the right direction if they need.
Happy safe mongering bro.
Sorry to say, but it seems you don't know what you are talking about. Read Offshore Swell's recent post. That is how it works.
When you are "talking to Mama", that is a negotiation to, for all intensive purposes, pay her bar fine. If you are pulling the girl near closing time (1 or 2 am), it is cheaper than earlier in the day / night. But you still have to pay around 1. 6 million rupiah even talking to the mama that late at night if you want the girl to stay with you in your room until morning. The mama has to clear it with the manager as well, it's not just her you are negotiating with. Places like Hotel Classic basically own these girls. (again, read Offshore swell's post).
The chance of the girl stopping by your room right before work for a "fresh catch of the day" sexual romp is slim and none due to the reasons mentioned in Offshore Swell's post. They control those girls completely, no way are they going to allow that.
Ggekko2009
03-28-19, 18:36
The wilder side of this trip.
On the first night after we reached Jakarta, I brought my friend to CJ since he had never visited the place. I was surprised to bump into this girl (let's call her Girl-1 for the benefits of everyone's anonymity) and her younger sister (Girl-2). I have known Girl-1 on my last trip and it was surprising to have her texted me out of the blue just a few days prior to arrival about my whereabout. I told her then that I was still out of the country. Apparently, I found out later that my information had been passed around by this CJ girl (Girl-3) whom I had tried to arrange to be my escort for the weekend. (So a word of warning, these girls talk among each other, they know how much you pay, your dick size, your demand etc etc, and every little gossip they can find). Girl-3 was my favorite girl from the last trip, but this time I was pissed at her as she stood me up after promising that she would be available.
Anyway, I have always wanted certainty and that Girl-3 fickleness threw a wrench into my plan. We are meeting up with my local friends and their wives at Colosseum and now I am without an escort. So I fall back on Girl-1 and asked for her to arrange for another girl who needs to be in her early 20's with tight body. She presented me with a few options but most of them need to be picked up as a package. The selections were pretty limited since she mentioned that I only asked for it on the same day and on a Saturday night. I landed with one (Girl-4) who who can double up with her as my double escorts. Anyway, another wrench was thrown when Girl-4 has to bail out a few hours prior to our meet, because her boyfriend had suddenly asked her out that night and she did not want to raise any suspicion. Crap. Finally, I requested Girl-1 to bring along her younger sister (Girl-2) and needed assurance that there should not be any awkwardness, and she mentioned that it should be the least of my worries. Nice.
Anyway, we all met up at Colosseum and Girl-1 showed up in high heels. She thought that Colosseum had the same kind of crappy dress code as that of Dragonfly, and I told her to better get changed, since there is no way she can keep up with us on the dance floor in those high heels. She ordered up GoJek to deliver her attire from her apartment to us in Colo. All these conveniences these days. My buddy has tagged along without an escort. I told him that there is always an option to pick one from the LC group. My local friend also tipped the security and asked him if he could direct any freelancers to us. They know who the freelancers are. Anyway, a few did show up to our tables, but I think by then my friend was already having so much fun with Girl-2 the younger sister, that it fell through. I offered up Girl-2 to my buddy and told her to treat him real well. We had huge fun that night and were very intoxicated from all those liqueur shots.
My friend and I ended the night by bringing each girl to our hotel room. Girl-1 never realized that her period has not completely ended and only realized it after we were halfway through our deeds. She said that she would like to finish me with a BJ CIM, but she needed to return to her apartment first to get her feminine products, since her apartment was just a five minutes walking distance from the hotel. She asked for money first and assured me that she would be back by leaving behind her purse and more importantly her ID (KTP). I obliged. However, at that point, she forgot to bring along the hotel key card and did not remember where our room was. Frontdesk was adamant about keeping guests privacy when she tried to find out where I was as she mentioned that I did not respond to her WhatApp text. I know that's a complete BS since she actually fell asleep and did not wake up in her bed until noon.
Anyway, now I am pissed at her, and that day upon checking out of the hotel, I left her purse by the front desk, but kept her KTP. The next day she asked me where I left her stuff, and later realized that I still had her KTP. I ignored her and decided to let her sweat a bit longer.
Come Monday evening and I was bored. I texted back at Girl-1 if she is interested in hanging out with me and she immediately agreed. I told her that she still owe me the time and a good BJ. In fact, I half joked with her that she can finish her BJ with me anywhere while we are hanging out. I picked her up at Hotel Mulia that night but insisted of not spending my time at CJ. CJ is a great place to find freelancers but not really an ideal place to chill out. We headed out to Cloud Lounge located on the top floor of Plaza Indonesia. Google Maps said that it was open but we found out later after arriving that it has been closed for renovation.
At that point I was out of ideas. Since it's Monday night, it is usually quiet everywhere. I ask Girl-1 to bring me to places where she would enjoy going and to just treat me as her BF for that night and I wanted to experience the authentic local hangout places. First, she brought me to an open bar located on the second floor building next to the lokasari building. The drink was cheap but the music played by the DJ was horrible. I can't really remember the name of the place but it was pretty crowded at that time.
Next, she brought me to what I would consider an underground dance club called Siera which is a walking distance from Lokasari. This spot was really something. If you go in without a pounding headache, I can guarantee you that you would walk out with one. This place was crowded, dark and grungy and loud, with the DJ playing just one form of music which is one constant beat, no build up, no crescendo, nothing, nada, just one constant beat. However, for whatever reason, the local patrons just love it. It is also interesting how the club requires all girls to check in their purse and handphones on the front desk, and the guys and girls would take their gender assigned lanes to enter where the security would slide their hands slowly along your pants to see if you bringing in any contrabands. Interesting.
After just two rounds of drink, Girl-1 wanted to go to Crown, since Siera does not have any ecstasy. At first I was hesitant given the last bad experience that I had, and told her that if we are to go, she needs to be my "Wing Lady", LOL.
Prior to entering Crown, Girl-1 told me that instead of paying for entrance fee, why don't I use the money to tip the usher and she can bring me to a front table in the lounge which I did. We ordered the first round of drink, and just go with the flow of the music. However, this place is no Colosseum, the music was better than Siera but it still sucked. I had my hands all over her and would make out like some teenagers. At some point, I asked her if she was interested to get high and her eyes just lighted up. I handed her the money and she procured the stimulant for herself. Things started to go up a notch.
As always, Crown would always be Crown. Even with Girl-1 next to me, there are many girls hitting on me like sharks smelling blood. I would be very flattered if I do not know any better what their real intentions were. As such, I would return the greeting, accepted their introduction and move on. Then her friends saw her and moved in. One of her friend I knew, since we had threesome before, and the other one was Girl-4, the one that supposedly bailed out last minute due to her boyfriend. Anyway, courtesy prompted me to buy them drinks. They prodded Girl-1 to see if I am interested in opening a bottle, and I refused. By the way, Girl-4 looked great with real tight body in her early 20's. If she had come along to our Colosseum gathering that night, it would be hard to pass her up to my buddy, LOL.
Unfortunately, my intent was different that night. Anyway, as we partied along, the girls would drag me up the floor and I found out that they wanted me to open a room. Ah, that infamous room where anything can happen literally in Crown. Anyway, I am starting to get pissed, and told Girl-1 straight up that she is supposed to be the wingman, and demanded that she took care of all these nonsense immediately and she did.
After Crown, we took a taxi and went back to Siera again, and there she said without irony, it's actually much safer at Siera. No one in there bothers you and you can do anything you want. 5 AM and that place was still packed with people. WTF.
I stayed for another 15 minutes before I told her that I was hungry and needed a good romp. She brought me out to eat at one of the pecel lele warung. The fried chickens were actually very good. We then checked into one of the newly opened hotel (Illumnior) next door.
By the way, our night did not just stop there. After our hump, she said her stimulant was still in the system and asked for permission to return to Siera, and I said ok. Her KTP is still with me anyway. I did ask her to bring back a girl for a threesome if she happens to find a good one. Too bad there would not be any threesome since most of the girls were not willing to stay with us until late noon. But she did return to the hotel after 7 am and immediately fell asleep next to me. I guess this is what the local girls get to do to have a good time. Crazy but I like it.
SeaTraveler
04-03-19, 15:48
Ggekko's "wild night" post seems to have stalled the forum.
Quite the interesting night. Would enjoy a similar adventure later this year.
Attached is Lia from CJ's.
Ggekko's "wild night" post seems to have stalled the forum.
Quite the interesting night. Would enjoy a similar adventure later this year.
Attached is Lia from CJ's.Nice. I have a fetish for girls with braces.
Ggekko's "wild night" post seems to have stalled the forum.
Quite the interesting night. Would enjoy a similar adventure later this year.
Attached is Lia from CJ's.Beautiful girl man very nice looking good job.
CodeName47
04-04-19, 10:54
I had been to Classics once several years ago but mainly to accompany someone there. I visited Classics again last Thursday with a friend after our visit both to CJ and BATS that same night. He had read about both CJ and BATS and wanted to check out the ladies there. He found most of them too mature for his taste, and there we were ending up in Classics on the fifth floor.
There was a minimal cover charge to enter, and upon entering, there were like five girls in see through lingerie dancing lamely on stage. The place was not crowded and we picked a spot to sit. The mamasan would soon trot along her girls and made them sit next to us. We always like to observe first from a distance and do not like this kind of pressure tactic. Anyway, the mommy assured us there is no obligation, and we can turn down the girls if we don't feel right with them. My friend was not interested in the girl assigned to him at first and was asking if there were other girls. Another girl was brought to him while the first one continued to thrust herself onto him. Anyway, an offer was made from the Mamasan for these two girls for 500 K and he took it.
In the meantime, the girl assigned to me sat at an arms lenght next to me and was very shy. We chatted briefly and I asked her where she is from (Palembang) and how long has she had worked at Classics (two weeks). I had no intention of sessioning with any girls there, but I liked that girl and off we go. Even though she is quiet and reserved, but once in the room (which was surprisingly nice) , she was very GFE, responding and enjoying every bit of our physical encounter. We exchanged our WhatsApp after that, tipped her and she wanted me to come see her again soon.
Two days passed and I received WA messages from her asking if I would like to see her again. I later learned that she had been out sick for the last two days after she saw me. She was hoping that she can make up for the lost two days.
As promised, I visited her that night. I needed that release since I was still trying to get rid of the hangover from all the heavy drinking and partying at Coloseum the previous night with a group of friends. (By the way, I learned that you can have the security act as your pimp with the right tip. My local friend gave him 100 k to help us find a FL from the dance floor for my friend who came along to the party without an escort while I had two, a sister pair, already lined up for me.) Anyway, that was for another part of the report.
After my session with the Classic girl, it is what came next or more on what I learned that really disturbed me. She was tricked into working at Classic by her friend who advertised the work as Lady Companion for KTV. When coming here then she learned otherwise. By then, it is too late and she is already in debt. This mafia gang has a system that makes them go continously into debt and is forced to stay confined in their residence hall pretty much like prisoners. Essentially they are sex slaves. She can't leave and she is forced to continue working until all her debts are paid off.
After hearing all these, I kind of estimate how much she owed and towards the end, gave her that amount plus a bit more. I told her that hopefully it can give her a headstart and helped her out of this spiraling debt. I told her that should she continues this line of work, it is because she wants to and not because she is forced into it. She was so surprised that I did that and even second guessed my intention and asked if I am serious even after I had handed her the cash. I assured her there is no strings attached.
It did not make me feel good one way or another and I am pretty much done with Classics or any other places like these in the future.This world needs more people like you.
You have done a great job. Please don't worry about the rest.
Thank you.
JamesXFisher
04-09-19, 15:15
Hi all,
First ever post, so please treat me gently.
Quick question. I read that Mercure Jakarta Kota is girl friendly but what are the practicalties? Can she walk right through the lobby and into an elevator without being challenged?
It's a Seeking lady and I strongly suspect she is "respectable" (I. E. not a pro) hence doesn't necessarily want her ID details at the front desk.
Any intel would be much appreciated, thanks.
James F.
Retired Engineer.
Now spending my pension & children's inheritance on whoring my way around the world.
Ggekko2009
04-09-19, 22:29
Hi all,
First ever post, so please treat me gently.
Quick question. I read that Mercure Jakarta Kota is girl friendly but what are the practicalties? Can she walk right through the lobby and into an elevator without being challenged?
It's a Seeking lady and I strongly suspect she is "respectable" (I. E. not a pro) hence doesn't necessarily want her ID details at the front desk.
Any intel would be much appreciated, thanks.
James F.
Retired Engineer.
Now spending my pension & children's inheritance on whoring my way around the world.Most of the hotels, and perhaps all that I know, in Jakarta are girl friendly, as in they don't really care how many girls or who you want to bring back. The only problem with your lady friend going to your room has got to do more with the elevator security setup. In many hotels, you need to have your key card to go to the upper floor where your rooms are located. If your lady friend has that key card, then she can just get on the elevator and go straight to your room. Otherwise, just meet her at the lobby and bring her up. No one from the hotel would care about who you meet and bring to your room. Have fun during your stay.
Hi all,
First ever post, so please treat me gently.
Quick question. I read that Mercure Jakarta Kota is girl friendly but what are the practicalties? Can she walk right through the lobby and into an elevator without being challenged?
It's a Seeking lady and I strongly suspect she is "respectable" (I. E. not a pro) hence doesn't necessarily want her ID details at the front desk.
Any intel would be much appreciated, thanks.
James F.
Retired Engineer.
Now spending my pension & children's inheritance on whoring my way around the world.Proper way to spend your bank, IMHO.
I stayed their four years go for about three nights. No registration of guests was required. FYI, a solid hotel, but the rooms needed a refurbishing badly. If you are seeking non-working girls, and want something a bit nicer for about $15 more a night, the Novotel Gejah Mada is much better.
Quick question. I read that Mercure Jakarta Kota is girl friendly but what are the practicalties? Can she walk right through the lobby and into an elevator without being challenged?I don't know of any hotel in Jakarta that is not girl friendly. I have not stayed at the Mercure Jakarta Kota because I don't like to stay in that dirty area of town (Novotel Gajah Mada just mentioned below is also in that same area). There are much nicer areas in Jakarta than Kota. That area is pretty much only a good option if you plan to go to the nearby brothels. However, I have never had any hotel anywhere in Jakarta "challenge" me taking a girl to my room. They never say a word to you if you accompany them. If you do not accompany the girl and want her to come to your room on her own, they may take her ID before escorting her up to you. I doubt she will be able to just walk up to your room, she will likely have to stop at the desk if you do not accompany her. Personally, I normally have the girl call me when she arrives and I come down and get her to avoid her having to interact with the hotel staff.
There is lots of information on hotel etiquette in the hotel thread.
Proper way to spend your bank, IMHO.
I can't think of a better way to spend it.
Ggekko2009
04-10-19, 09:08
It's a Seeking lady and I strongly suspect she is "respectable" (I. E. not a pro) hence doesn't necessarily want her ID details at the front desk.One thing that I can say about all these girls regardless if they are "pros" or not, they can be a regular people with regular day job, but they are all in it for the money to usually supplement their income to either support their lifestyle or extended family. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Pedros Needs
04-10-19, 13:43
I don't know of any hotel in Jakarta that is not girl friendly. I have not stayed at the Mercure Jakarta Kota because I don't like to stay in that dirty area of town (Novotel Gajah Mada just mentioned below is also in that same area). There are much nicer areas in Jakarta than Kota. That area is pretty much only a good option if you plan to go to the nearby brothels. However, I have never had any hotel anywhere in Jakarta "challenge" me taking a girl to my room. They never say a word to you if you accompany them. If you do not accompany the girl and want her to come to your room on her own, they may take her ID before escorting her up to you. I doubt she will be able to just walk up to your room, she will likely have to stop at the desk if you do not accompany her. Personally, I normally have the girl call me when she arrives and I come down and get her to avoid her having to interact with the hotel staff.
There is lots of information on hotel etiquette in the hotel thread.I have to say I struggle with this at times also, especially given I might bring 4- 5 different girls over that number of days, as I always sense those on reception glaring at me.
Stopped at a hotel in Tangerang where you walked straight towards reception coming in the entrance, sure it was a little intimidating for the girl also.
Never have they been asked for ID. More that is more likely to happen in Bali from my experiences.
Pedro.
Offshore Swell
04-10-19, 15:42
One of the things about Indonesia is that there is this parallel universe that exists behind closed doors and hotels are the proxy.
That means if threesomes are your thing you can march through the lobby with two ladies of your choice and apart from a sly shit eating grin from the maintenance guy they will not say a word. Indonesians all use hotels as a respite from the rules that they go by the rest of the time and you are welcome to do so as well.
The best way to handle this is to hold your head high like the lothario that you are and look them straight in the eye. OS has taken girls up to his room in all states, from clubbed out vomit in the lift type girls to kampung girls in pyjamas to the sluttiest looking outfits you could think of and then dropped them back to the lobby in the morning. Once you are behind those doors in a hotel in Indonesia you are safe. Except of course for the political party head that they caught with a pile of shabu and a girl which would have been a set up by his enemies. They even dismantled the toilet to get the evidence.
But fear not. As a meek, mild mannered engineer. You are just doing exactly what they all do so just pick up that confident stride and do it. It is only ever the walk of shame if that's what you feel. The difference is the dynamics of power and money in this country mean there's no shame involved.
Hope that helps.
OS.
Rogozhin30
04-10-19, 17:36
Longtime lurker who is trying to contribute a few reports, even if outdated.
Went to Delta Massage in Jakarta several years ago. Very nice location with low lighting that sets the mood. Requested a VIP with hot stone massage. Did not request a specific girl, but given one with great little body and pretty face.
First off, a very high quality massage, legit quality. This place offers real massage with perks. She started off wearing a silk robe, but it at some point came off as the steam / heat built. Slow sensual buildup on the thighs and balls. Standing to attention, with her on her knees between my spread eagle legs. Fantastic slow HJ to a massive explosion.
Very limited English, which did take away from some of the experience, but hard to expect more. Professional about it, not going to be fooled that there is some magical connection. And I believe the walls did not extend fully up, even though it was a fairly large room that otherwise felt pretty private. Still recommend as a good option for excellent massage and relief.
Hi!
I've been to Jakarta twice first in last June and than again in last month so I figured I'd share my experiences after all this time lurking around. Let me start with the bad stuff, two very similar experiences the first in Hotel Travel last year where a girl wiped me with Listerine and then went on licking me at the same places which I obviously found more weird than anything else, this time same thing happened in Hotel Classic, Listerine wipes refusing BBBJ etc the whole thing was ridiculous. A couple days ago I read OS report about these girls circumstances so that put things into perspective. However I'd like to know if others receive similarly bad services at this venues. Is this the standard? I went to other places at this price range like New Saryu in Kota Indah (4 times) not mind blowing but good service each time, no issue with BBBJ, I think the price was 380 k. However my favourite is the small room in Malio just wish I could remember how they call it lounge or resto whatever where the girls cost around 400 k opposed to the 900 k and upwards in the bigger room. I know beauty in the eye of the beholder but I found them just as attractive if not more. I took 6-8 of them over my visits and all of them were great with the couple of them being exceptional. And I was exactly the same guy there as far as attitude and personal hygiene go so I can't really get my head around the need of wiping my nipples with Listerine. I also visited Emporium twice on Pecenongan street that's a bit more expensive. They got girls for 1065000 and 1265000 if I remember correctly, good selection of girls, nice rooms. Recommended place too.
Hi!
I've been to Jakarta twice first in last June and than again in last month so I figured I'd share my experiences after all this time lurking around. Let me start with the bad stuff, two very similar experiences the first in Hotel Travel last year where a girl wiped me with Listerine and then went on licking me at the same places which I obviously found more weird than anything else, this time same thing happened in Hotel Classic, Listerine wipes refusing BBBJ etc the whole thing was ridiculous. A couple days ago I read OS report about these girls circumstances so that put things into perspective. However I'd like to know if others receive similarly bad services at this venues. Is this the standard? I went to other places at this price range like New Saryu in Kota Indah (4 times) not mind blowing but good service each time, no issue with BBBJ, I think the price was 380 k. However my favourite is the small room in Malio just wish I could remember how they call it lounge or resto whatever where the girls cost around 400 k opposed to the 900 k and upwards in the bigger room. I know beauty in the eye of the beholder but I found them just as attractive if not more. I took 6-8 of them over my visits and all of them were great with the couple of them being exceptional. And I was exactly the same guy there as far as attitude and personal hygiene go so I can't really get my head around the need of wiping my nipples with Listerine. I also visited Emporium twice on Pecenongan street that's a bit more expensive. They got girls for 1065000 and 1265000 if I remember correctly, good selection of girls, nice rooms. Recommended place too.How do you find this Malio small room?
Last I remember, on top floor of one building is the main room with girls of all countries and dancers 3 at a time on a stage on the right when you get in.
In next building on ground floor I think is the club with sofas surrounding dance stage.
I wasn't sure where else to go to find girls?
Was there a massage area I missed, is that the "small" room?
JohnGaltin
04-11-19, 03:10
I have a 6 hours late night airport layover (midnight to 6:00). Checked with Orchardz Bandara that their last massage order is 22:30. Any other fun and budget friendly places nearby which are open during those hours?
Thanks.
Ggekko2009
04-11-19, 03:22
One of the things about Indonesia is that there is this parallel universe that exists behind closed doors and hotels are the proxy.
That means if threesomes are your thing you can march through the lobby with two ladies of your choice and apart from a sly shit eating grin from the maintenance guy they will not say a word. Indonesians all use hotels as a respite from the rules that they go by the rest of the time and you are welcome to do so as well.
The best way to handle this is to hold your head high like the lothario that you are and look them straight in the eye. OS has taken girls up to his room in all states, from clubbed out vomit in the lift type girls to kampung girls in pyjamas to the sluttiest looking outfits you could think of and then dropped them back to the lobby in the morning. Once you are behind those doors in a hotel in Indonesia you are safe. Except of course for the political party head that they caught with a pile of shabu and a girl which would have been a set up by his enemies. They even dismantled the toilet to get the evidence.
But fear not. As a meek, mild mannered engineer. You are just doing exactly what they all do so just pick up that confident stride and do it. It is only ever the walk of shame if that's what you feel. The difference is the dynamics of power and money in this country mean there's no shame involved.
Hope that helps.
OS.It reminded me of the one night when a girl that I was with was so drunk that when we reached the hotel and coming out of the taxi, I had to ask the front doorman to carry her to our room. It took two of them to literary carry her and they were more than pleased to help since I tipped them pretty generously.
And also another time, the bellboy delivered room service and two of the girls that I brought back to my room were pretty much already half undressed, and the guy never batted an eye. As always, they know what is going on and usually remain discrete about this kind of stuff.
Although there are absolutely girls that are bound by high debts, I do want to put some things in perspective and say that it does not mean ALL girls are like that, even in the afore mentioned places.
For example: I have 2 Malio dancers who I regularly bang on their day off. One girl is completely debt free and never had one to begin with. She worked as an SPG in some mall at one point before she was introduced to the scene by a female friend, did a trial evening, decided she liked the easy money and stuck around, she's 20. The other one has been at Malio for 6 years, still has a rocking body at 25, and was debt free for 4 years. She then decided she wanted to buy a Pajero and took a 200 jt cash loan from the company to substitute her savings, obviously binding her. This loan bears 1% interest per month, although not a great deal its far away from loanshark / maffia practices.
Although there are absolutely girls that are bound by high debts, I do want to put some things in perspective and say that it does not mean ALL girls are like that, even in the afore mentioned places.
For example: I have 2 Malio dancers who I regularly bang on their day off. One girl is completely debt free and never had one to begin with. She worked as an SPG in some mall at one point before she was introduced to the scene by a female friend, did a trial evening, decided she liked the easy money and stuck around, she's 20. The other one has been at Malio for 6 years, still has a rocking body at 25, and was debt free for 4 years. She then decided she wanted to buy a Pajero and took a 200 jt cash loan from the company to substitute her savings, obviously binding her. This loan bears 1% interest per month, although not a great deal its far away from loanshark / maffia practices.I agree that the dancers are not sex slaves. However, the other girls are sex slaves.
Koperen Klaas
04-12-19, 21:09
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But fear not. As a meek, mild mannered engineer. You are just doing exactly what they all do so just pick up that confident stride and do it. It is only ever the walk of shame if that's what you feel. The difference is the dynamics of power and money in this country mean there's no shame involved.
Hope that helps.
OS.Completely agree. The walk of shame exists only between your ears.
Regards.
CoolBilly09
04-13-19, 02:37
Was in Jakarta and was flooded with 'Incall' massage offers. Engaged with them all and uniformly told them I cannot share room number and asked them to give me a call from the lobby. Standard reply from every one of those who sent me the offer was a big 'No'. The pictures they send you are of beautiful 20 something girls and all messages come from one 'handler' who will send older flabbier women to unsuspecting clients to their hotel rooms. Its easier for us to walk away from the girl waiting in the lobby once we realize its the wrong girl. Its probably not that easy to turn away a girl from your room. This whole thing is a scam suggest you don't fall for such offers on we chat.
I agree that the dancers are not sex slaves. However, the other girls are sex slaves.I think you will struggle to find a girl who has been on the game for a while who is not bonded in some form. Even those that are not bound by a cash debt become addicted to the easy money and flashy toys. Add in family and peers who become use to looking the other way as nice gifts roll in and it's a habit that is hard to break.
Was in Jakarta and was flooded with 'Incall' massage offers. Engaged with them all and uniformly told them I cannot share room number and asked them to give me a call from the lobby. Standard reply from every one of those who sent me the offer was a big 'No'. The pictures they send you are of beautiful 20 something girls and all messages come from one 'handler' who will send older flabbier women to unsuspecting clients to their hotel rooms. Its easier for us to walk away from the girl waiting in the lobby once we realize its the wrong girl. Its probably not that easy to turn away a girl from your room. This whole thing is a scam suggest you don't fall for such offers on we chat.You could always try and give them a room number down the hall, so when they turn up (not at your door) you can suss them out when they go past your door. Just try make sure its an empty room you send them to otherwise have some unhappy wife down the hall having go at husband for ordering a WG to the room!
Completely agree. The walk of shame exists only between your ears.I don't know about that. I was kicked out of an upscale apartment I was staying at because the upper class older Indonesian women complained about me bringing a different girl into their building every night. Admittedly, that was a rare circumstance and I've never had that problem in a hotel in Jakarta.
I think you will struggle to find a girl who has been on the game for a while who is not bonded in some form. Even those that are not bound by a cash debt become addicted to the easy money and flashy toys. Add in family and peers who become use to looking the other way as nice gifts roll in and it's a habit that is hard to break.There are plenty of Indonesian girls interested in western men who have never been "bonded". You can find them walking around the malls, in offices, etc.
There are plenty of Indonesian girls interested in western men who have never been "bonded". You can find them walking around the malls, in offices, etc.I was continuing the discussion about working girls and used a very wide definition of "bonded" to include the addiction to money, lifestyle etc.
I guess in many ways the same could be said about girls who continuously and repeatedly court whities. For most it's their only access to nice apartments, drivers and impressive IG travel selfies. These could become equally addicting if the girl's family situation was not able to independently provide them.
It's not unusual to see a girl break up with one bule and immediately move on to another. If this happens enough times she will be given the label SKB by local guys: suka kontol bule.
I think you will struggle to find a girl who has been on the game for a while who is not bonded in some form. Even those that are not bound by a cash debt become addicted to the easy money and flashy toys. Add in family and peers who become use to looking the other way as nice gifts roll in and it's a habit that is hard to break.That's their own damn fault.
That's their own damn fault.Exactly. That's why you should only go with the girls who are free lancers at places like BATS and CJs. They control their own destiny and it's their own damn fault. The girls who are sex slaves in places like Hotel Classic are helpless victims.
The girls who are sex slaves in places like Hotel Classic are helpless victims.True. It's also shocking how many of the girls were sold off by people they should have been able to trust: boyfriends, uncles etc. Many times a father's drinking or gambling debts are paid off with a pretty daughter.
Tommy Suharto
04-15-19, 14:02
True. It's also shocking how many of the girls were sold off by people they should have been able to trust: boyfriends, uncles etc. Many times a father's drinking or gambling debts are paid off with a pretty daughter.Yup, something like that. Find below link. One of the better pieces of journalism on the supply line, how girls end up in Jakarta brothels:
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/girls-for-sale-indramayus-prostitution-production-line-20150223-13m8o9.html
Although there are absolutely girls that are bound by high debts, I do want to put some things in perspective and say that it does not mean ALL girls are like that, even in the afore mentioned places.
For example: I have 2 Malio dancers who I regularly bang on their day off. One girl is completely debt free and never had one to begin with. She worked as an SPG in some mall at one point before she was introduced to the scene by a female friend, did a trial evening, decided she liked the easy money and stuck around, she's 20. The other one has been at Malio for 6 years, still has a rocking body at 25, and was debt free for 4 years. She then decided she wanted to buy a Pajero and took a 200 jt cash loan from the company to substitute her savings, obviously binding her. This loan bears 1% interest per month, although not a great deal its far away from loanshark / maffia practices.The dancer with the Pajero. Her name isn't Cha Cha by any chance is it?
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The dancer with the Pajero. Her name isn't Cha Cha by any chance is it?Don't most of the dancers call themselves Cha Cha at some point? LOL.
These girls often change their working names. I truly believe that every dancer I have taken home has used the name Cha Cha at some point. The last dancer I saw was called Jessica when I first met her. She then changed to Jasmine, then to Cha Cha, then to Putry, then to Alexa, then back to Jessica. The girl who currently lives with me told me her name was Cha Cha when I first met her. But the second time I met her, she told me her real name. For some reason, Cha Cha is a very popular fake name.
I know a dancer named Icha who drives a pajero. She used to call herself Cha Cha.
With election on and various public holidays, are most places going to be open, like Travel, Ckassic, KingX, Emporium?
Don't most of the dancers call themselves Cha Cha at some point? LOL.
These girls often change their working names. I truly believe that every dancer I have taken home has used the name Cha Cha at some point. The last dancer I saw was called Jessica when I first met her. She then changed to Jasmine, then to Cha Cha, then to Putry, then to Alexa, then back to Jessica. The girl who currently lives with me told me her name was Cha Cha when I first met her. But the second time I met her, she told me her real name. For some reason, Cha Cha is a very popular fake name.
I know a dancer named Icha who drives a pajero. She used to call herself Cha Cha.This is Ca Ca.
Was at classic (will put up review soon), asked for VIP room but handler lady said all rooms same type all standard no VIP rooms.
This was Level 5 classic.
Are VIP roomscat level 2?
Banana Boi
04-17-19, 21:39
Are VIP roomscat level 2?Yes you enter the VIP rooms from Level 2.
This is Ca Ca.I don't know her. Nice tits, but those huge eyes make her look like an alien. Kind of scary. That photo may be photoshopped.
Going to be in Jakarta during Ramadan. What is the scene like. Are Bars, clubs, MP's open during night time or completely shut??
Thanks in advance.
What is the night scene during Ramadan. Are Bars / Clubs / MP's open or completely shut.
TIA.
Offshore Swell
04-21-19, 02:23
What is the night scene during Ramadan. Are Bars / Clubs / MP's open or completely shut.
TIA.Given that Ramadan comes around every year, you could try going back 12 months on the forum and you would see that about 50 people ask the same question every Ramadan. Saves us all a bit of time, preserves quality over quantity here and only takes a tiny bit of effort on your part.
Irish Mongrel
04-21-19, 06:43
What is the night scene during Ramadan. Are Bars / Clubs / MP's open or completely shut.
TIA.Do a search of my previous posts and you'll find all you need on this topic, it'll help you learn how to use the search function As Smoothy says, would be good if you did a search and didn't just ask as there are plenty of reports from alot of people on the exact topic. All you need to do is seach for one word!
Pedros Needs
04-21-19, 14:09
Gents,
Chatting to a lady I met on Tagged website who tells me she does a service at Hotel Lah.
Is this a place where a workout is available can anybody tell me, as I got the impression that's what she was trying to tell me with her limited English.
Pedro.
Gents,
Chatting to a lady I met on Tagged website who tells me she does a service at Hotel Lah.
Is this a place where a workout is available can anybody tell me, as I got the impression that's what she was trying to tell me with her limited English.
Pedro.I think that is located between Hotel Kan and Hotel Dong.
Given that Ramadan comes around every year, you could try going back 12 months on the forum and you would see that about 50 people ask the same question every Ramadan. Saves us all a bit of time, preserves quality over quantity here and only takes a tiny bit of effort on your part.Also very important to know that after Idul Fitri that is Wednesday 5 June 2019 this year until Wednesday 19 June all places like hotel classic, travel and yes even 1001 will be closed, all the Kampung girls go to their Kampung for 2 weeks its like Christmas for them.
Ggekko2009
04-22-19, 12:17
Gents,
Chatting to a lady I met on Tagged website who tells me she does a service at Hotel Lah.
Is this a place where a workout is available can anybody tell me, as I got the impression that's what she was trying to tell me with her limited English.
Pedro.I think she means in a hotel and not a specific one. Did she say that in a chat? Singaporeans and Malaysians have a tendency to add "lah" towards the end of sentence to add emphasis, obviousness or not let the sentence ends abruptly, and this habit may just be easily picked up by Indonesians too if they try to speak English, kind of like "dong" or "kan" that you will hear a lot at the end of spoken Indonesian sentences.
I think that is located between Hotel Kan and Hotel Dong.Hotel Kan is the preferred establishment as it indicates a question ie "when are we going to meet at your hotel?" 😁.
KingCrimson69
04-24-19, 09:35
I've been a lazy boy – my visit dates to Jakarta were Feb 24 to Mar 4. This was an annual visit timed with the Java Jazz Festival. First night, Sunday, reached hotel Jayakarta after midnight. Quick shower and after a drink headed down to Club 36. Many of the ladies were actually leaving in clusters. Settled at a pod close to the stage which had some dancers. The place seemed dead. The only one making eye contact was a grizzly bouncer – friendly chap. He came up to strike a conversation but I don't speak Bahasa. I'm sure he could have organized something but I decided to call it a night.
Day 2. Shifted to Hotel Harris Vertu for the week. I needed a hotel close enough to the usual action places and also with stable WiFi to catch up on office mails. I have a regular girl in Jakarta whom I'the met some 5 years back thru an app called BeeTalk. She's 24, speaks a little English and works at an opticians. Freelances occasionally to supplement income. So Clara was happy to meet me late afternoon and we showered, shared some desert and she blew my brains out. Ordered some more food for her and I took a nap while she watched TV. Evening we headed to a rooftop bar in Artotel Thamrin. Clara who only had fruit juice when we first met, had some wine and I stuck to JD – man, booze in Jakarta is expensive and henceforth I decided to carry my hip-flask loaded with my duty free (I'the smuggled in an extra bottle). We headed back to my hotel for a session before a hug, kiss and goodbye. My standard payment to her has been 500 K irrespective of time spent or anything else. I know she charges more but sugar daddy here provides her a lot of other things – like she's heading to Bangkok for a holiday with a friend soon and I'm sponsoring 3 nights hotel in Khaosan for the two. Anyway, I told her I have a lot of office work next day and I'the meet her again later in the week. You don't go to Jakarta and get stuck to one girl. However good she is, there's always hope and excitement in explorations.
So Day 3 started around noon with a visit to the Orchardz Hotel spa. Relaxed in the hot pool, took a shower and selected a girl for the room with jacuzzi. Fantastic figure and very friendly local girl. Of course, we had some language issues but this one knew how to please. A great BBJ / DATY and covered action. I have a school friend of mine living in Jakarta and I met him at his office in CBD. We headed to his place for drinks and dinner and he told his missus he'the take me out for a drink. I asked him if we could go to CJs. We entered around 10:30 pm and the place was pretty dead. It did get crowded later and there were a few stunners but the ones that approached me were grandmas. He met a girl he knew but had to go back home. This girl introduced me to a very fair girl with platinum blonde hair who asked to 3 juta – I bought her a drink but declined politely, did not bother to negotiate. We left the place after midnight – he headed home and I took a cab for Classic. Things were pretty much alive there and I met a mamasan who knew me from previous visits. She got me the youngest little thing I've ever bed to bed with. Took a couple of pictures for my collection and future visits – as I was sure to forget her name. Classic has rarely disappointed me.
Day 4 morning I messaged Clara and she spontaneously said she'the be happy to take the day off if I was free. Fantastic! As I love company for lunch. So off to my favourite place in Jakarta – Bandar Djakarta. Back to hotel and the usual. Then I suggested we go shopping as I've always bought her a dress or a pair of jeans on every visit. She's been careful enough to keep things within limits. It was raining and took us almost 2 hours to reach a complex of malls somewhere in West Jakarta. She then acted coy and said she didn't need clothes but asked if I could sponsor her hotel in Bangkok instead. I told her she could have both. I could hear 10 CC in the background play "I'm not in love". I got myself some great threads from Batik Keris. By then my throat was parched but hey, I had my hip flask. After the traffic we'the experienced earlier we decided not to hit town as planned but head back to hotel. She suggested a small place right next to Harris Vertu for dinner. No alcohol served but the most amazing food ever! Back to my room and she pulled out a gift I'the given her some 3 years back, a thumb-sized vibrator! We laughed and made out in the shower.
By Day 5, Thursday, I'the accumulated enough mails and work to keep me busy all day. Evening my buddy from the city drove over and we went to King Cross. Lost our way as Google maps took us all over the place and we landed up I front of Sumo. I know that's next to or close to KC but since neither of us had been there before, decided to check it out. They lined up some 8 or 9 "massage" girls and I took fancy to one young and petite just the way I like it. The deciding factor was the open stare and smile she gave while being lined-up. Her name is Vidi and after another great session including rimming and CIM she shared her number. Wanted to be taken out. So I said fine, let's go but she said I'the have to wait. That's the way I understood it. Anyway, my friend and I left and she's been in touch till I blocked her after reaching home – I have family to be careful of.
Day 6/7/8 Fri to Sun not much of mongering as I was at Java Jazz from 5:00 pm to midnight. Did catch up with Clara on both Saturday and Sunday afternoon for an hour. Went to Classic on Saturday night and Malio on Sunday night – decided to blow all the juta I had left! Great party with a couple of friends from JJF at Malio.
You never have enough days to do everything in Jakarta. I missed experiencing Tanjung Priok – perhaps because I was scared of not getting a taxi back. I'm also on the other side of 60 and take things easy, mix it up with all the things I appreciate. Can't wait till my next visit.
Have 1 day in Jakarta, Kindly guide Spas worth visiting during day / evening near Pullman Central Hotel.
Thanks in advance.
Blanquiceleste
04-26-19, 01:18
Have 1 day in Jakarta, Kindly guide Spas worth visiting during day / evening near Pullman Central Hotel.
Thanks in advance.Spend a day before landing there to RTFF, you might learn something for the 1 day visit and for the future trips.
I've been a lazy boy my visit dates to Jakarta were Feb 24 to Mar 4. This was an annual visit timed with the Java Jazz Festival. First night, Sunday, reached hotel Jayakarta after midnight. Quick shower and after a drink headed down to Club 36. Many of the ladies were actually leaving in clusters. Settled at a pod close to the stage which had some dancers. The place seemed dead. The only one making eye contact was a grizzly bouncer friendly chap. He came up to strike a conversation but I don't speak Bahasa. I'm sure he could have organized something but I decided to call it a night...Excellent report thank you very much.
Date of review: 26th April 2019.
Weather was nice, mood was shitty, wallet was full and dick was hard.
So decided to venture out to Malio (overpriced yet I am attracted to it like a moth to the flame). After an hour long excruciating drive, I land at the hotel. Post the customary greetings (guards, ushers and front desk), collected my wrist-tag and pressed the elevator button to take me to floor 2 (aka heaven). As the elevator stopped at lantai 2 (floor 2) and even before I could step out, a beautiful tall Chinese maiden with big bazookas entered the lift, behind her was probably a 70-year old, white haired, Batik wearing Indonesian man. If that man is reading this forum. Respect Sir. Keep going hard (all puns intended).
Now circling back to my story, entered the dimly lit club and greeted Mami-san. After a few minutes of regular chit-chat she pointed me to a girl that looked super cute and absolutely awesome. From Uzbek. Nelly. Stunningly tall girl, small boobs, lovely erect nips and a super cute face. Oh did I mention. Really tall. I think she is around 178 cms if I am not wrong. The best part about her was the french kiss. Oh so passionate and oh so amazing. Mild put off. Smell of nicotine. I think I was fairly good at my foreplay because while we were in the session, her legs willingly spread as if to invite me to go in BB, in the heat of the moment as I was about to go in. Better senses prevailed and in my panting breath I told her better to use protection. She nodded (a little hesitatingly) So I put the Durex performax (this is not their advertising) on and got on with it. WOT, MOT, Missionary, Doggy. And finally came like I always do. Slow, thunderous and inside her (of course was still wearing my protection).
She is going back on the 28th May. Got her whatsapp number but she requested not to make it public. So I am not sharing it here. And as I am finishing writing this review. Weather is still good, mood is shitty, wallet is still full (well a bit) and dick is beginning to get hard.
Cest la vie brothers. Cest la vie.
So decided to venture out to Malio After a few minutes of regular chit-chat she pointed me to a girl that looked super cute and absolutely awesome. From Uzbek. What's the price at Malio for imports like her these days?
Date of review: 26th April 2019.
Weather was nice, mood was shitty, wallet was full and dick was hard.
So decided to venture out to Malio (overpriced yet I am attracted to it like a moth to the flame). Good report. What was the costs associated with your Malio visit?
Albert9989
04-27-19, 00:21
Date of review: 26th April 2019.
Weather was nice, mood was shitty, wallet was full and dick was hard.
.............................
Cest la vie brothers. Cest la vie.Si LE portefeuille est toujours plein, see'est la belle vie!
Bravo.
If the wallet is still full, its a beautiful life!
Hi all,
How is the action on the kalibata scene and the apartments I follow the forum for long haven't seen much. I am interested in more MILF action this trip may be getting old.
OS.
Banana Boi
04-27-19, 07:55
Have 1 day in Jakarta, Kindly guide Spas worth visiting during day / evening near Pullman Central Hotel.
Why limit yourself to the Pullman area? Bluebird taxis and GRAB car are extremely cheap in Jakarta. Read some of the old posts from Smoothy, he has listed well over 100 places you can visit OR just do what most others do, go to Hotel Travel or Hotel Classic.
AugustChrist
04-27-19, 11:08
That's the way I understood it. Anyway, my friend and I left and she's been in touch till I blocked her after reaching home I have family to be careful of.Awesome report! Jakarta always amazes!
On a side note, I wonder if you can help: I always block my contacts as well yet I just realized that in your whatsapp, if you go to privacy, you can see all the blocked contacts! I am now super concerned in case the wifey figures this out (she likes mingling with my phone. I guess she has some doubts).
Will appreciate any tips.
Cheers.
AugustChrist
04-27-19, 11:17
Anyway, my friend and I left and she's been in touch till I blocked her after reaching home I have family to be careful of.Awesome report! Jakarta always amazes!
On a side note, I block my contacts as well and just realized that on Whatsapp, you can go to privacy and all your blocked contacts are listed!! I am now concerned as the wifey has a tendency of checking the phone and I'm doomed if she figures this one out.
Will appreciate any tips.
Cheers.
Awesome report! Jakarta always amazes!
On a side note, I block my contacts as well and just realized that on Whatsapp, you can go to privacy and all your blocked contacts are listed!! I am now concerned as the wifey has a tendency of checking the phone and I'm doomed if she figures this one out.
Will appreciate any tips.
Cheers.Buy a second phone just for travelling. Have messenger and social accounts registered only to that number. Leave it rattling around in the drawer at work until its needed.
Enjoy. G.
SeaTraveler
04-28-19, 02:44
On a side note, I block my contacts as well and just realized that on Whatsapp, you can go to privacy and all your blocked contacts are listed!! I am now concerned as the wifey has a tendency of checking the phone and I'm doomed if she figures this one out.
Will appreciate any tips.
Cheers.When my Samsung phone is set to LONG battery life, it disables all those unnecessary apps like WhatsApp, but phone, email, camera, maps & text are all still active. That's how I keep my wife's prying eyes at bay.
A cheap phone costs less than $100. Is it worth $100 or less to you to keep your activities private? How much would a divorce cost you? Buy a burner phone, use it, and if necessary throw it out. I know so many guys that have been caught by their wives cause they did not do this. Cost them a hell of a lot more than $100 per trip away.
Most apps has a blocking and hiding features such as.
1. WhatsApp. Block under privacy and also archive the message conversation.
2. FB messenger. Mute and hide the conversation. Also, you can add second account on the same messenger and keep all the girls contact there. When needed, just switch the account.
3. Viber. Viber tends to be best as you can password protect conversations and it will not pop-up until you type in the password in search window.
Any girl that I like to intend to visit them in future. I usually ask them to use Viber. Once in a while I would Open the conversation just to keep in touch. Also, viber notifies you if the girl has changed her number.
For iPhone options of keeping a secret folder is limited but for Android, you can even get a hidden folder where you keep all the apps that you don't want anyone to see. Hope these helps. Happy Safe Mongering.
Awesome report! Jakarta always amazes!
On a side note, I wonder if you can help: I always block my contacts as well yet I just realized that in your whatsapp, if you go to privacy, you can see all the blocked contacts! I am now super concerned in case the wifey figures this out (she likes mingling with my phone. I guess she has some doubts).
Will appreciate any tips.
Cheers.
A cheap phone costs less than $100. Is it worth $100 or less to you to keep your activities private? How much would a divorce cost you? Buy a burner phone, use it, and if necessary throw it out. I know so many guys that have been caught by their wives cause they did not do this. Cost them a hell of a lot more than $100 per trip away.Indeed. Also girls are real smart. I was with regular girls in Jakarta while having a GF from states. Once I went on a cruise in FL and the girl I was dating found out about me because one of her indo friends was working on that specific boat (What are the frigging odds.) and told her.
Another time I was walking in BKK on a first date and some girl comes up to me (didn't even remember her) and screamed my name and said: hey remember me from Angeles city. This was a gogo girl who even was with a guy walking around on Sukhumvit. I denied knowing her and told my date I had no clue who she was and got away with it in the end but jeez.
Another time I I was visiting a theme park and told a girl I hanged out with a few times in Jakarta and turned out she was checking the hashtag from that park and my then GF posted a pic of us and through that hashtag she found that pic. Hahaha. I have been really naive sometimes in the past making these mistakes. Also found one girl taking pics of my passport when I left it in the room. Obv. Kicked her out straight away and now lock most things in the safe.
You really need to be careful if you want to hide things these days with social media's etc. If they add your normal number in their phone your insta account and other social media's might also show up to them if you have them linked to the same number. Aka: get a separate phone with a separate number.
What's the price at Malio for imports like her these days?My setback was around IDR 2.5 mio (approx). But there are different rates. Chinese are 2.2,m Viets are 2. Thai are also 2 I think. Locals are cheap (and horrible).
SteelBaton
05-05-19, 09:54
Whatsapp is the most popular these days, but the security options are sub-par. I use Viber now, it has a secret chat function that allows messages to automatically disappear. It can be password protected for certain contacts. That doesn't stop someone from calling you however. I do register that number to an overseas SIM card so that anyone who connects with me doesn't have my home number.
Awesome report! Jakarta always amazes!
On a side note, I block my contacts as well and just realized that on Whatsapp, you can go to privacy and all your blocked contacts are listed!! I am now concerned as the wifey has a tendency of checking the phone and I'm doomed if she figures this one out.
Will appreciate any tips.
Cheers.
I'm back to Jakarta after many years of absence and tried to visit Delta spa today but was closed due to Ramadan. Same with Fortune hotel and spa. Is anything open and available during this period?
Charm City Dave
05-05-19, 17:33
I'm back to Jakarta after many years of absence and tried to visit Delta spa today but was closed due to Ramadan. Same with Fortune hotel and spa. Is anything open and available during this period?I was there last year. Big mistake. CJs and Bats were open but sparse. I only had luck with a few regulars I knew and a couple I met on Tinder, but even that was relatively dead as well. A friend (and Jakarta expert) has well intentionally opined that I'd clean up on Tinder as there would be few guys in Jakarta and girls would be desperate. Not my experience.
I was there even a week after Ramadan was over after Eid for a few days and it was still dead, though I'm not a brothel guy so I didn't visit them....
Try blocking the contact on your phone! That should stop your viber hidden contact from calling you. You will still get the call if viber app is open and will show you missed call on chat history.
My most favorite is messenger now as you can have second or third profile set and switch between within a sec.
I use Viber now, it has a secret chat function that allows messages to automatically disappear. It can be password protected for certain contacts. That doesn't stop someone from calling you however. I do register that number to an overseas SIM card so that anyone who connects with me doesn't have my home number.
SteelBaton
05-05-19, 19:45
Malio closed tonight on the first night of Ramadan (Sunday), but guard says they will be open as usual on Tuesday.
I'm back to Jakarta after many years of absence and tried to visit Delta spa today but was closed due to Ramadan. Same with Fortune hotel and spa. Is anything open and available during this period?
KilledSoul
05-05-19, 22:24
Date of review: 26th April 2019.
From Uzbek. Nelly. Stunningly tall girl, small boobs, lovely erect nips and a super cute face. Oh did I mention. Really tall. I think she is around 178 cms if I am not wrong.
Cest la vie brothers. Cest la vie.Entertaining post like always. Was wondering were the girls topless?
Entertaining post like always. Was wondering were the girls topless?No girls were topless. They were bored for sure. But not topless.
Entertaining post like always. Was wondering were the girls topless?Girls werent topless. They were bored. But not topless.
I know the festive month of Ramadan is under way, so anyone reading the pun in the subject line please do note its unintentional. Or is it?
Anyway, this is a report of SAGI hotel & Spa (named after one of the sun-signs). Went there yesterday, at around 3 pm. I find it to be a sweet spot as there isn't a lot of traffic (on the road, as well as in the hotel). And the thirsts are still unquenched (ours as well as the girls). Its like being the first customer in a hotel room, things are clean, shiny and sparkling. But as the day progresses, room get messy, sheets get crumpled. You get the drift.
But We digress. So coming back on track, met this young cewek. Name is Caca. She is one of the 'super-agents' (another fancy name for their freelancers). Gosh, oh gosh. Slim, gorgeous, not big chested but firm and handful, amazingly firm butts (a rarity in Jakarta), beautiful smile and succulent lips. As I write, can still taste and feel them.
What I have realized, especially with the FLs is that the act needs to be a narrative. Or a theatre. If you will. So I typically would play a nice song on my phone, chit-chat a bit, and just slowly start caressing and fondling (hair) as we speak. Wait for the perfect moment. Before landing the kiss on the lips (no tongue so far). And then the river takes its own course! I will not bore you with the details, but I had an absolutely fantastic session with her.
She was wet, she was horny and she dug her nails in my back, ouch!
So brothers (and sisters, I don't judge) go have her. She is not a meal, but is a delicate dessert.
Cheers,
BL.
WazWallaby
05-09-19, 01:34
Guys,
The thoughts of a 60 something monger, housebound in Melbourne post-knee replacement, drift back to Jakarta.
The scene is the Cemara Hotel in Menteng, strolling home from a Menteng watering hole late in the evening. The carpark security would often offer up a ruby-lipped working girl who, for a nominal sum would cock gobble you as you stood between two cars, with the security guy on lookout or more likely, looking on. One time paid the girl to suck off the guard and he was forever grateful, sending girls my way over a memorable week's stay. Girls of every shape, size, type and age. They shared one certainty, Jakarta sluts down to their toe-nails, and often a tad foul-mouthed to boot. Oh, doesn't that type excite a hard-on from us all?
Just round the corner is The Treva Hotel, the Tits and Trivial, as we called it. At night you could dial up a girl from their posse of masseuses, and for a (cheap by Oz standards) fee the chubby darling would ride you cowgirl around the 13th floor rooftop pool. After you had unloaded, she would nonchalantly toss the condom off the roof, to land who knows where, and wash out her fanny by the pool edge. Can't say I ever went for a swim there. With a bit of bargaining, 30 minutes later she would send up her spinner mate, and there followed a good doggie with lady gripping the glass edged fence railing and yours truly ploughing her bouncy brown buttocks as we both looked 13 floors down to the slums below. Over a couple of years the boys gave those masseuses a huge workout and poured loads of cum and cash into their hot slots.
Truly, Jkta is an amazing place, where, if you are working and get to know the local scene and lingo just a little, you will have fanny thrown in your face on a daily basis. Soon as the knee is right, I am hopping a Garuda from Tullamarine to Bali, and when I have finished with the hostie, aim to fuck myself through Java, from Bali to Banten and back again. See you there.
Hi,
I've been to Jakarta for the 1st time for 6 days, just before Ramadan started. Came from Pattaya as a visa run and to check out the Indonesian capital.
Stayed at Citi M Hotel, in Central Jakarta, 5 minutes walking distance from Mona's monument, 15 mins to Hotel Classic. Can recommend this hotel for a budget stay (paid 400 k / night, good breakfast, fast internet, located in the quiet street).
Went to brothels only, spent around 650 $ for girls (13 in total), drinks, food and taxi.
First night went to Classic 5th floor, many girls to choose from. Asked mamasan for young, slim girl with no baby (the best way as for me, someone here wrote that mamas are too pushy, which is true, and you better order beer and spend time to search girl yourself. But the problem is girls don't give a fuck about you while seat on couches: no eye contant, no smiles, just sit in their phones / you can't see figure also when they sit. So better call mamas.) Got 18 years old nice girl, looked really young, 365 k, went to good clean room and had regular sex with nothing extraordinary. In the end she asked for selfie with me, LOL, usually it's the other way around. I ask for photos. Tipped her 100 k (question: Is it expected to tip 100 k every time no matter the service in places like that or only if the service was good? Once I didn't tip at all because girl was bad, 2 times gave 50 k for also not very good service.).
After we returned to the main hall I suggested to sit together and drink few beers but girl refused. Like most of the others, seems they aim for short times only. But I saw locals drinks with them for long time. What's wrong?
Next day I went to Travel, had 3 girls there /370 k each + tips, also many young girls there but again only short time and run to search another customer. One girl said she gets only 100 k from what I pay to mama. Is that true? Wtf they are so willing to get back in line? Stay with me for 30 minutes, drink some beer and I will give you same 100 k tip.
Then next day I decided to go to Starmoon by foot. Only 3. 5-4 km, so no big deal I thought. After 500 m pedestrian walkway dissapeared and you basically walk on the side of road, then after few turns the big road finished and I was walking in narrow road in some kind of slums, got dark and I already regret about my choice, mobile internet also disappeared so I couldn't grab a taxi. Then I remember as someone here said this is the real Jakarta, away from the main streets. Fortunately I didn't get robbed and actualy people were friendly there. Waving hands, smiling, saying Hello,. Also local cats are gangster, they slowly walked in the middle of that narrow road not giving a fuck about motorbikes. In Indonesian Jakarta motorbikes are afraid to get run over by a cat.
I came to Starmoon around 7 pm it was Thursday, the place was almost emty. As I walked in mama told me the price was 370 k, I hoped for lower, but anyway checked fishbowl with girls, picked young one, ask about babies. The answer was no, so we went to pay at cashier. I gave them 400 k and recieved change 80 k, so the actual price is 320 and mama tried to fool me. Rooms here worse than in classic or travel but still ok "soi 6 style". Girl was lazy, didn't want to go on top, BJ was weak and short, and she was complaining all the time about my big size (which is not big) and how she "sick". I managed to cum eventually and at first didn't want to give her tip but as they gave me lower price than I was told first, girl recieved 50 k and was pretty happy about it.
After that I visited next door bar New Sariayu. It was empty too. I order a beer and looked around. About 20 girls were seating on the long tables facing each other. None of them showed any sign of interest in me, looked in phones or talked to each other. I asked mama to find me a young slim girl, after few minutes she brough one girl, which I didn't like and then next 18 yo tall busty girl with great ass, who was the most beautiful in this trip. Paid 380 k (again maybe overpriced tourist price). Room was nicer than in starmoon. Great performance in bed.
The next day I wanted to repeat her and came about 9-10 pm to the bar and it was Friday. Sooo the place was jam-packed with local customers, no free space to sit and literally every one except waitresses was smoking and it was like fog no ventilation at all. My eyes started crying and head aching. I couldn't find my dream girl and called taxi to Classic.
I liked 2nd floor Classic more. Seemed to have more girls, more tables. One accident happened there though. Same as always I asked for a girl with no babies, mama brought me one she had nice face, 22, was smiling, so we went to the room where I found out that she has a baby, her belly was soft and saggy tits. Fuck. It's hard to tell when you see them with tight clothes covering the belly, push-up bras and lying mamasan. I quickly got back to change the girl, the time on room was ticking, luckily mama found a good change, nice 19 yo with good ass. Liked the session with that girl so in the end I was not angry with all the situation.
" In general Jakarta's girls have better body than Thais, more curvy; almost no tattoos; whiter skin; more girls in one place; cheaper than soi 6.
First 2 days I was under good impression. Even wanted to spend 2-3 month here next winter. But then cooled down and now think it is better for short visits 5-6 days.
" Terrible road traffic, one time at 3 pm I spent 20 mins in taxi to simply pass one intersection, traffic lights were working fine but people don't care about rules there. Girls almost don't speak English, at least young ones. City is not suitable for walking, and I like to walk. I saw once in the main road they have zebra, crosswalk sign, traffic light and still it was not safe enough for pedestrians so they have to put policeman to regulate it. 70% BJ are covered in brothels. The use Listerine to do weird shit like after the shower girl pour Listerine on tissue and wipe your nipples, belly, balls, dick. One time saw girl wash her pussy with Listerine after sex, wft! The attitude, Thai girls are head above in this aspect.
Banana Boi
05-12-19, 06:40
DimKO, thanks so much for the review. Thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Thanks also for your information on the Almaty thread.
I thought the girls made 1/3 of the money, split evenly between bar, mamasan / pimp, and girl. I guess that varies from bar to bar. Is a tip necessary, absolutely not. However, unless the girl is horrible I always give a tip only because I feel bad they make so little. If they are good and allow photos I would max out my tip at 200 k.
Unlike Thailand, girls do not make money for ordering lady drinks. I think this is a positive. Girls will sit with you for a while before you room but unless you are a regular more than likely she isn't going to sit with you long after a session. I always assumed girls who sit with those Indo guys all night long are because the guys are paying the girls and mamasan.
I've never seen New Sari Ayu with only 20 girls. Place is usually packed with girls. Abnormal to see Starmoon with few girls as well. Looks like Starmoon service standards has gone down the shitter. My friends and I have had terrible sessions there of late. I find the girls at Grand LA and Royal to be more service oriented than the other bars in Kota Indah.
Re. Walking Classic, Travel, Starmoon are in the slums of Jakarta. If you want to walk go walk in the Neo Soho area, up in Ancol, or even around Grand Indonesia Mall.
One thing I am not sure you figured out in the bars like Classic / Travel is that if you use a mamasan to get girls for you she will ONLY bring you HER girls. She does not make money if you go with another mamasan's girl. Best to walk around and if you see a girl you like to ask her grab her mamasan.
Question for the experienced Classic guys. What is the best time to go to the 5th floor of Classic? Whenever I go up there it is seemingly dead.
Blanquiceleste
05-12-19, 09:41
The use Listerine to do weird shit like after the shower girl pour Listerine on tissue and wipe your nipples, belly, balls, dick. One time saw girl wash her pussy with Listerine after sex, wft! Great report. Thanks a lot.
Before Listerine became a world famous brand for mouth wash, its original use was for the treatment of gonorrhea.
https://www.jwatch.org/na43217/2017/01/10/listerine-gonorrhea
Then next day I decided to go to Starmoon by foot. Only 3. 5-4 km, so no big deal I thought. A 4 km walk in that area of town is a nightmare. You are basically walking in filth the entire time. A taxi would have cost close to nothing. Even if you enjoy walking, that's not the area to do it.
As I walked in mama told me the price was 370 k, I hoped for lower, but anyway checked fishbowl with girls, picked young one, ask about babies. The answer was no, so we went to pay at cashier. I gave them 400 k and recieved change 80 k, so the actual price is 320 and mama tried to fool me. What possible benefit would the mamasan get from "trying to fool you" then walking you over to the cashier? You have to walk to the cashier with her to pay at that place and they NEVER rip anyone off as far as I know. Starmoon is more desperate for business than the other places in that area so they give a discount prior to 8 pm. So the price there depends on whether you take a girl before 8 pm or not. You likely took the girl just before 8 pm and got the discount. Maybe the mamasan was playing it safe and quoting the normal rate without discount in case you waited until after 8pm to take a girl, but no matter what, you are going to get the fair rate in the end. Also, they have girls they call "free lance" and those girls are 50 k more than the normal girls. The free lance girls have numbers like FL9 instead of just 9 on the button they wear with their number. Maybe she gave you a free lance price but you then took a lower priced non free lance girl, who knows. Suffice it to say, the mamasan was not trying to fool you at that place. I don't particularly like that place because the rooms suck and I don't think it has many nice girls, but I have never heard of them trying to fool anyone or rip anyone off.
After that I visited next door bar New Sariayu. Paid 380 k (again maybe overpriced tourist price).
The next day I wanted to repeat her and came about 9-10 pm to the bar and it was Friday. Sooo the place was jam-packed with local customers, no free space to sit and literally every one except waitresses was smoking and it was like fog no ventilation at all. My eyes started crying and head aching. I couldn't find my dream girl and called taxi to Classic.That was not the overpriced tourist price. 380 k is the price there for locals and for anyone else. I agree that every bar in that area is a smoke infested misery hole on busy nights. I would only ever even consider going to that area in the daytime before the locals arrive and ruin the ambience with their smoking.
I do see how you could think those places are trying to rip you off when they are charging the same price as a much nicer place like Hotel Classic charges. You would think they would charge half the price of Hotel Classic given the difference in quality of the surroundings and rooms, but nope.
In my 20 years or so in Jakarta, I can't think of one time ever when any brothel anywhere in town tried charging me more than a local would pay. Then again, when I do go to places like that, I normally go there with local Indonesian guys. But even when I go alone, I've never had any of those places charge me more than the normal rate. Taxis are also honest for the most part. More so than any other country I have visited.
I know the festive month of Ramadan is under way, so anyone reading the pun in the subject line please do note its unintentional. Or is it?
Anyway, this is a report of SAGI hotel & Spa (named after one of the sun-signs). Went there yesterday, at around 3 pm. I find it to be a sweet spot as there isn't a lot of traffic (on the road, as well as in the hotel). And the thirsts are still unquenched (ours as well as the girls). Its like being the first customer in a hotel room, things are clean, shiny and sparkling. But as the day progresses, room get messy, sheets get crumpled. You get the drift.
But We digress. So coming back on track, met this young cewek. Name is Caca. She is one of the 'super-agents' (another fancy name for their freelancers). Gosh, oh gosh. Slim, gorgeous, not big chested but firm and handful, amazingly firm butts (a rarity in Jakarta), beautiful smile and succulent lips. As I write, can still taste and feel them..Any chance you can share the digits / contact by PM?
Also very important to know that after Idul Fitri that is Wednesday 5 June 2019 this year until Wednesday 19 June all places like hotel classic, travel and yes even 1001 will be closed, all the Kampung girls go to their Kampung for 2 weeks its like Christmas for them.Can someone confirm this. I have a layover here. Was planning to stay for 3 days. Now I might go straight to my destination.
Was in Jakarta last month and head to illegal now called 108.
Price for a girl plus entry is 920,000 non VIP or 1,250,000 for VIP.
Then its 814,751 per non VIP girl or 1,144,751 for VIP.
Pretty pricey but they still have the theme rooms of gym, hospital bed, and office if you keen plus nice pool to use.
You can also stay there for 600,000 a night and can take a girl for the day but costs minimum of 5 hours (above rates x 5).
Girls looked ok but nothing fancier than say classic. But there is one young girl not bad speaks good english by name Astin.
They also have section for massage but can't choose girl. Price is 350,000 and then you need to negotiate with your girl for sex in the final 30 minutes of your 90 minute session. I had good massage girl, strong fingers great massage, think her number was 122.
However negotiate for price was annoying, she wanted 800,000 but what the point if have to pay 350,000 on top for massage, might as well gone for 920,000 girl.
However got her down to 700,000 and considering you have to tip 920,000 girl guess it all breaks even. Was good massage and good sex.
Wouldn't go back though, or maybe just once to smash up Astin one more time as she s little hottie, place is too pricey, Malio better option. Per my next review coming.
BenderOver
05-19-19, 12:05
Hi,
I've been to Jakarta for the 1st time for 6 days, just before Ramadan started. Came from Pattaya as a visa run and to check out the Indonesian capital.
Stayed at Citi M Hotel, in Central Jakarta, 5 minutes walking distance from Mona's monument, 15 mins to Hotel Classic. Can recommend this hotel for a budget stay (paid 400 k / night, good breakfast, fast internet, located in the quiet street).
Went to brothels only, spent around 650 $ for girls (13 in total), drinks, food and taxi.
First night went to Classic 5th floor, many girls to choose from. Asked mamasan for young, slim girl with no baby (the best way as for me, someone here wrote that mamas are too pushy, which is true, and you better order beer and spend time to search girl yourself. But the problem is girls don't give a fuck about you while seat on couches: no eye contant, no smiles, just sit in their phones / you can't see figure also when they sit. So better call mamas.) Got 18 years old nice girl, looked really young, 365 k, went to good clean room and had regular sex with nothing extraordinary. In the end she asked for selfie with me, LOL, usually it's the other way around. I ask for photos. Tipped her 100 k (question: Is it expected to tip 100 k every time no matter the service in places like that or only if the service was good? Once I didn't tip at all because girl was bad, 2 times gave 50 k for also not very good service.)..The word sick and hurt are same. Great report on Kota Indah, I love those bars. All are closed during Ramadan. From may 6 to June 5. Gate in front at the main Street is pulled shut, all lights are out.
Between Kota Indah and Hotel travel is only 30 k to 40 k. I don't bother walking.
Travel Hotel closed at 1 AM.
All KTV and discotechs are closed for Ramadan.
I ended up being offered by hotel bell boy to call a massage service for me, wink wink. All inclusive for 600 k ST, 1. 5 M for LT. Two girls show up and I pick the younger and prettier one. ST and it was excellent.
Stayed at some hotel off Jl. Tengseng about five minute walk to Kota indah. 380 k total.
Stayed at some hotel off Jl. Tengseng about five minute walk to Kota indah.
Kota Indah, I love those bars. All are closed during Ramadan. From may 6 to June 5. Gate in front at the main Street is pulled shut, all lights are out.Considering it's been posted on this site basically every year for about the last 20 years or so stating that Kota Indah is one of the few brothel areas that is completely and utterly closed during Ramadan, that's an odd choice for a hotel location during Ramadan. They won't pay the bribes to stay open. I think that's why they are raided so often during non-Ramadan times of the year as well.
Malioboro, Hotel Classic and Hotel Travel are open though.
DzikaBomba
05-20-19, 19:10
I'm thinking of trying an short Trip to Jakarta.
But I'm interested in the online Freelancer Scene only.
I find here info only about hotel Classic and so on.
Can anybody tell me the average Prices for ST / LT for online FL?
Is bareback available with FL?
Fast Eddie 48
05-20-19, 21:17
Was in Jakarta last month and head to illegal now called 108.
Price for a girl plus entry is 920,000 non VIP or 1,250,000 for VIP.
Then its 814,751 per non VIP girl or 1,144,751 for VIP.
Pretty pricey but they still have the theme rooms of gym, hospital bed, and office if you keen plus nice pool to use.
You can also stay there for 600,000 a night and can take a girl for the day but costs minimum of 5 hours (above rates x 5).
Girls looked ok but nothing fancier than say classic. But there is one young girl not bad speaks good english by name Astin.
They also have section for massage but can't choose girl. Price is 350,000 and then you need to negotiate with your girl for sex in the final 30 minutes of your 90 minute session. I had good massage girl, strong fingers great massage, think her number was 122..To Vrsabien.
It been a few yr since I been there they have some Thai and E European girl last time I was there price start at 1.5 mil and up some are very hot model, the massage girl are just average looking I agree massage is very good.
Fast Eddie 48.
BernardIndo
05-21-19, 14:05
Visited Orchard in Jl. Industri a week ago. Haven't been back there for well a year, but glad to see most things were the same. Maybe a bit less clients, but maybe it was because of Ramadan.
One thing was changed and that is that they don't have the different spa packages (butterfly, hot&cold), or at least they don't offer them. I got offered massage or "full massage", and went.
For the latter of-course. Wasn't disappointed, as it included full service. The girl I got was the best I've had at Orchard. Very friendly, funny and insisted of giving a rim job. Was really.
Active during intercourse too. I think I paid 750 K for the massage, excluded a tip. All in all great!
Bernard.
BernardIndo
05-21-19, 14:07
Online scene is limited. & Very hit and miss. Most have fake profiles. Maybe try massagerepublic com, I heard at least few of those profiles are real.
Bernard.
I'm thinking of trying an short Trip to Jakarta.
But I'm interested in the online Freelancer Scene only.
I find here info only about hotel Classic and so on.
Can anybody tell me the average Prices for ST / LT for online FL?
Is bareback available with FL?
BernardIndo
05-21-19, 14:16
Where to find freelancers in Jakarta, where there are girls willing to go LT? I'm keen to find some new spots to go hunting, anyone have some recommendations, except the places mentioned below:
CJs in hotel Mulia (good).
Bats in Shangrila (very good).
Tavern in Aryaduta (not good / few girls).
Bar in LE Meredien (used to be good, no girls these days?
Colosseum club (not so good, girls with bad attitude).
Loewy bar (good vibe, but too few girls).
Basque bar (good, but few girls).
DsPlace (OK, but old girls).
Mybar (OK, but old girls).
To Vrsabien.
It been a few yr since I been there they have some Thai and E European girl last time I was there price start at 1.5 mil and up some are very hot model, the massage girl are just average looking I agree massage is very good.
Fast Eddie 48.Def no Thai or east eu now.
Hardly any spoke English except for Astin.
Where to find freelancers in Jakarta, where there are girls willing to go LT? I'm keen to find some new spots to go hunting, anyone have some recommendations, except the places mentioned below:
CJs in hotel Mulia (good).
Bats in Shangrila (very good).
Tavern in Aryaduta (not good / few girls).
Bar in LE Meredien (used to be good, no girls these days?
Colosseum club (not so good, girls with bad attitude).
Loewy bar (good vibe, but too few girls).
Basque bar (good, but few girls).
DsPlace (OK, but old girls).
Mybar (OK, but old girls).I know some people like to bad mouth the place on this forum (mainly people who have only been there one time), but Eastern Promise in Kemang was great last Friday night. It's only an option on Friday or Saturday nights and it's hit or miss, but there can be some free lance gems there.
Blanquiceleste
05-23-19, 10:24
Where to find freelancers in Jakarta, where there are girls willing to go LT? I'm keen to find some new spots to go hunting, anyone have some recommendations, except the places mentioned below:
CJs in hotel Mulia (good).
Bats in Shangrila (very good).
Tavern in Aryaduta (not good / few girls).
Bar in LE Meredien (used to be good, no girls these days?
Colosseum club (not so good, girls with bad attitude).
Loewy bar (good vibe, but too few girls).
Basque bar (good, but few girls).
DsPlace (OK, but old girls).
Mybar (OK, but old girls).Bar in LE Meridien is Tiga Puluh. So many more places. Jenja, Dragonfly, X2. Countless other places to pick up girls. That is the beauty of Jakarta, the girls are so open-minded.
I am wondering why you dock Colosseum? That is a great place.
Ggekko2009
05-23-19, 13:41
Bar in LE Meridien is Tiga Puluh. So many more places. Jenja, Dragonfly, X2. Countless other places to pick up girls. That is the beauty of Jakarta, the girls are so open-minded.
I am wondering why you dock Colosseum? That is a great place.It may be quite difficult to spot freelancers in Colosseum, as most girls may just be regular civilians or party goers. One thing you can do if you need help, you can típ the security guard inside the club (you will know who they are since they are the ones eyeing you to make sure there are no troubles, LOL) and ask him to point or introduce these FLs to you.
That way you know it's a sure thing and not end up offending the wrong person.
Blanquiceleste
05-23-19, 17:13
It may be quite difficult to spot freelancers in Colosseum, as most girls may just be regular civilians or party goers. One thing you can do if you need help, you can tp the security guard inside the club (you will know who they are since they are the ones eyeing you to make sure there are no troubles, LOL) and ask him to point or introduce these FLs to you.
That way you know it's a sure thing and not end up offending the wrong person.But that is EXACTLY my point. Even the regular civilians and party goes are fair game. Unless a girl is distinctly part of a group (comprising of men and women), I would not hold back from approaching. And there are plenty of girls-only groups partying at these places on most nights. You will be surprised with the results.
BernardIndo
05-23-19, 18:22
Thank you. Forgot to mention EP, however not my favorite place too look for girls. Half my business partners go there in the weekends.
I know some people like to bad mouth the place on this forum (mainly people who have only been there one time), but Eastern Promise in Kemang was great last Friday night. It's only an option on Friday or Saturday nights and it's hit or miss, but there can be some free lance gems there.
BernardIndo
05-23-19, 18:34
I find that the girls in the North, in places like Colloseum, club illegals and Milles, are mostly there with guys or are there to get high. Crown is maybe my favorite in that area in Jakarta, but don't go there often either. Its been a while since I have been to Colloseum, maybe I will visit to see if my impression still are valid.
Miss D old Top Gun, in its heyday! Wish there were more places like it today, and like Mybar, where you come in and know you could bring anyone back for the night!
Bar in LE Meridien is Tiga Puluh. So many more places. Jenja, Dragonfly, X2. Countless other places to pick up girls. That is the beauty of Jakarta, the girls are so open-minded.
I am wondering why you dock Colosseum? That is a great place.
Miss D old Top Gun, in its heyday! Wish there were more places like it today, and like Mybar, where you come in and know you could bring anyone back for the night!I was never a fan of My Bar. Not even in it's heyday. But I do miss Top Gun, Lintas Melawai, Oscars, and Sportsmans. The sad thing is that Top Gun was still a good option even just before it closed down, but it had very few customers there near the end. Makes me question guy's tastes when they were preferring places like Hotel Classic, Hotel Travel, Kota Indah, Malioboro and other such places over Top Gun when it was still open. I can see going to those places up north on rare occasions, but Top Gun was a place I would go almost every night and enjoy.
Koperen Klaas
05-23-19, 22:50
I know some people like to bad mouth the place on this forum (mainly people who have only been there one time), but Eastern Promise in Kemang was great last Friday night. It's only an option on Friday or Saturday nights and it's hit or miss, but there can be some free lance gems there.Last time I was in Jakarta I went to EP a couple of times. I quite like the place because it's well run.
The front bar is mostly a regular bar where you can get sloshed as much as you like. The beer garden in the back gets quite busy with FL's in the weekend and it's easy to pick one up. Shortly after Top Gun went bust many of the girls moved to EP; I saw quite a few familiar faces. During the week the beer garden is usually closed. During championships the beer garden and sports bar are communicating vessels; girls move back and fro, on the prowl.
I was never a fan of My Bar. Not even in it's heyday. But I do miss Top Gun, Lintas Melawai, Oscars, and Sportsmans. The sad thing is that Top Gun was still a good option even just before it closed down, but it had very few customers there near the end. Makes me question guy's tastes when they were preferring places like Hotel Classic, Hotel Travel, Kota Indah, Malioboro and other such places over Top Gun when it was still open. I can see going to those places up north on rare occasions, but Top Gun was a place I would go almost every night and enjoy.While the individual bars were good, it was the vibe of the whole area that attracted me. If you didn't like where you were, you could just finish your beer and walk next door or across the road and see if that held anything you liked. It was easy to spend the whole night bar hopping and catching up with male and female acquaintances. The close proximity of everything was a huge plus esp with Jakarta's traffic.
Cheers. G.
P.S. You missed out the relaxed sophistication of the Bali Hai. 😉.
Banana Boi
05-24-19, 17:58
How do dark skinned Indian men from the US fair in Jakarta? Will they get rejected by some girls at places like Classic, Travel, Kota Indah, Malio, CJs, BATS?
Blanquiceleste
05-24-19, 18:22
How do dark skinned Indian men from the US fair in Jakarta? Will they get rejected by some girls at places like Classic, Travel, Kota Indah, Malio, CJs, BATS?Possibly in places like CJs & BATS and other clubs where FLs ply their trade. Less likely in places like Classic, Travel, Kota Indah, etc. Where the girls are largely modern era sex slaves. Malio might be a hit and miss.
You missed out the relaxed sophistication of the Bali Hai. 😉.Yes, the club. Unless you were looking for a blowjob with your beer, it was never safe to sit at the side of the bar next to the wall. Haha. I didn't go there often simply because the other bars had better looking girls at the time.
How do dark skinned Indian men from the US fair in Jakarta? Will they get rejected by some girls at places like Classic, Travel, Kota Indah, Malio, CJs, BATS?Dark skinned Indian men don't even fare well in India relative to the light skinned men. Even there they prefer light skin. Watch Indian TV or the Bollywood movies, they all have light skin. Doesn't mean they can't get laid in a ***** house though.
John Traveller
05-25-19, 17:47
Soon I will be returning to Jakarta, three years after my last visit. From this board I hear there are some changes. When did Top Gun close down, are the other bars at Blok M open still? What are the alternatives to Top Gun now? I mean sort of similar setup. I hear about Eastern Promise, but where is it?
Yes, I know there are the other options in West and Central, like hotel bars, hotel Classic and so on. I plan to go there again as well.
SeaTraveler
05-26-19, 00:58
I hear about Eastern Promise, but where is it?
There is something called Google Maps. If you haven't tried it you should. Then you can see the BIG picture location of all your stops.
I stopped in there a year ago. Had a nice romp with Melinda.
SEA Traveler.
So I was in Jakarta for a couple of days decided to go to malio one evening. I was expecting it to be a bit dry but it turned out to be the one of the best times I have had at malio.
Firstly the prices have increased since the last time I was there, in the lounge for a local it was 600 k + 200 k minimum tip, across the hall dancers were asking 1.5 m IDR for one hour /1 shot, the dancers in the club 3.3 m IDR for the same.
Got to the hotel around 10 pm, was ushered to the back entrance where the club is. Once done with the formalities sat myself down at one of the tables. The dancers were bored and not as beautiful as I had seen before but I didn't care as I was soon surrounded by 5-6 attractive girls. I guess 2 of them were playing the long game as they got really friendly (if you know what I mean) without asking for drinks. One of them was really petite just what I was interested in. Did spend some time there before moving upstairs to check out the talent. But couldn't get the petite lady out of my head so went back to the club and found her. Soon we were on the floor above with the price of just 5 lady drinks (65 k IDR each) and this is where the fun started. Was having a great time with her boobs in my face and her gyrating on me until I got interrupted by other girls looking for a lady drink. One of them shoved my hand down her shirt forcing me to grope her which I thought was worth one drink anyway. Bought them each a lady drink so I could get back to my petite lady faster. Ended up getting the number of my girl and agreed to meet her at my hotel. Total expenditure at malio was about $100 for a great time. Can't wait to be back in Jakarta.
Uncle Volodya
05-26-19, 08:20
Looks like the shit has hit the fan down there politically, with protesters angry about the results of the last elections and political violence in the streets leaving at least 8 people dead.
I am booked for 3 weeks in Jakarta in July.
Calling out to the old Indonesian hands: Should I be worried? How likely is this to impacts the p4 p scene? Am I walking into a "Year of Living Dangerously" situation? LOL.
Hi gents,
I've read pages, 35 and counting, of this thread and would like to gather some more info, if anyone is kind enough to provide. Thanks in advance.
It seems Hotel Classic is the go to for cheap P4P I'll make this a stop or multiple stops based on luck.
1. Is the entrance to the P4P scene in the the back left of the hotel (not the main entrance to hotel)?
2. How dim is the light setting, viewing youtube, I can barely see anything outside of the WG's lounging sofas? In a couple of videos, are the girls sectioned off by premium (most sit in front of the bar, but there's an area to the immediate left of the entrance where some girls will sit).
3. I can't recall the page #, there's a 40,000 IDR minimum to enter a floor. If I don't locate someone on floor 2, I want to leave for floor 5, and I don't buy 40,000 worth of drinks. Do I pay the different upon leaving? And does moving from floor to floor incur new minimum?
4. Say you complete your first session, you go back to a floor, how long can you stay there without grabbing another WG or drink?
5. Is there only 2 floors to Classic, I see 2nd and 5th, but not 3rd or 4th, or Nth other floors.
Hotel Travel is permanently closed? This is what Google is saying when I search for it, but other reports states they went to Travel. Granted some of the reviews are back in March 2019.
Where is Hotel Kota Indah located? I searched but I don't believe I'm searching correctly, my Google-fu isn't good on this one.
I'm not sure if I'll hit the bar scene. CJ and Bats. As I'm looking to stay up North. Are Jakarta taxi drivers horrendous with night charges. I know Bangkok taxi drivers are.
"John Traveller: Soon I will be returning to Jakarta, three years after my last visit. From this board I hear there are some changes. When did Top Gun close down, are the other bars at Blok M open still? What are the alternatives to Top Gun now? I mean sort of similar setup. I hear about Eastern Promise, but where is it?
Top Gun closed about Nov. 2017. MyBar and the'Place still operating in about Oct. 2018, and no reports of closure since. A couple of other Block M bars also still operating, but with little of interest. EP is in Kemang, about 2 km from Block M. Apparently best at weekends.
Good luck, and locking forward to some reports.
Blanquiceleste
05-26-19, 13:33
Looks like the shit has hit the fan down there politically, with protesters angry about the results of the last elections and political violence in the streets leaving at least 8 people dead.
I am booked for 3 weeks in Jakarta in July.
Calling out to the old Indonesian hands: Should I be worried? How likely is this to impacts the p4 p scene? Am I walking into a "Year of Living Dangerously" situation? LOL.The political situation currently has nothing to do with the hobby we all enjoy. As we speak the month of Ramadan is still in play so things will be a bit quiet but July should be fine.
On the other hand one should be glad that the incumbent has been reelected. His challenger was a more hard-line sort of guy and thst could have impacted the mongering scene.
In the long run I believe Indonesia will get more and more radicalised and our hobby will meet its maker there.
You are wrong you don't know India.
Dark skinned Indian men don't even fare well in India relative to the light skinned men. Even there they prefer light skin. Watch Indian TV or the Bollywood movies, they all have light skin. Doesn't mean they can't get laid in a ***** house though.
JamesXFisher
05-26-19, 17:23
The political situation currently has nothing to do with the hobby we all enjoy. As we speak the month of Ramadan is still in play so things will be a bit quiet but July should be fine.
On the other hand one should be glad that the incumbent has been reelected. His challenger was a more hard-line sort of guy and thst could have impacted the mongering scene.
In the long run I believe Indonesia will get more and more radicalised and our hobby will meet its maker there.Sadly this is the direction of travel all over the Muslim world. Malaysia is on the same path. Looks like we will all be going to Vietnam in 10 years time!
LookAtWorld
05-26-19, 18:10
The political situation currently has nothing to do with the hobby we all enjoy. As we speak the month of Ramadan is still in play so things will be a bit quiet but July should be fine. Glad to hear this. I have a week booked in July as well, its my maiden trip to Jakarta. Thank you.
BenderOver
05-26-19, 22:42
Hi gents,
I've read pages, 35 and counting, of this thread and would like to gather some more info, if anyone is kind enough to provide. Thanks in advance.
It seems Hotel Classic is the go to for cheap P4P I'll make this a stop or multiple stops based on luck.
1. Is the entrance to the P4P scene in the the back left of the hotel (not the main entrance to hotel)?
2. How dim is the light setting, viewing youtube, I can barely see anything outside of the WG's lounging sofas? In a couple of videos, are the girls sectioned off by premium (most sit in front of the bar, but there's an area to the immediate left of the entrance where some girls will sit).
3. I can't recall the page #, there's a 40,000 IDR minimum to enter a floor. If I don't locate someone on floor 2, I want to leave for floor 5, and I don't buy 40,000 worth of drinks. Do I pay the different upon leaving? And does moving from floor to floor incur new minimum?.1. Hotel Classic has a large lobby / common area central. You enter and see the registration desk, but off to the side appears to be a multistory atrium. Around this atrium as you go up are various businesses including the ones you're looking for. Escalators and elevators get you there.
2. Near pitch black. You need to bring MMS or the girl to some lighting to discuss.
3. Don't know how the minimum charge works. But it's very cheap! My advice is to not worry about the small stuff.
4. I never had a problem. It's usually boredom that drives me out.
5. There are at least 5 floors to Classic. You may not see any posts about 3 or 4 simply because the businesses there have cycled or there may be no businesses there at all. I can't remember, but maybe Smoothy can advise what is on 3 and 4. Also, Indonesia has a superstitious thing about using L4 as a floor. It usually goes G, 1, 2, 3, 3 A, 5. Can't remember how Classic does it.
6. Hotel Travel is open. The entrance of the club is separate from the hotel lobby. It's about 10 meters to the left. You don't need an address. Any taxicab driver in North Jakarta knows Hotel Travel. The shadier ones will want to give you a fixed rate to drive you there knowing you're horny and looking to bang. Their fixed rate is usually 150% of whatever Bluebird charges you, but late at night, you don't usually find Bluebird in those neighborhoods.
7. Kota Indah is not a well known term to both Google Maps and to taxi drivers. If you're looking for this place and want to get there quickly in a taxicab, look for Starmoon Bar, favorite that, and show the address to the driver. The area is just one block south of Kota Tua (Old City). Kotah Indah is really two shit-covered alleyways with about 5 clubs / bars completely filled with young lovely girls. My favorite place to punt really. But as I indicated before and as Smoothy reminded me I'm redundant in stating because it's stated this time of year for the past 2 decades, do not go during Ramadan and likely during Idul Fitri celebration because all of the establishments are likely closed, doors locked, lights out. So much so that even the alley heavy security gate is completely slid shut. I believe Idul Fitri celebrations can last as long as June 16 this year, though officially, businesses like to reopen by June 12. (Kota Indah are not official businesses).
8. If you're already running a TIGHT budget, CJs and BATS will get you no where. We're talking a 500 k punting experience versus a 2000 k punting experience (taxi, entry, drink, ST girl). So you have to really be honest about your budget here. If you want to go just to look around, sure thing. Taxi's are VERY reasonable and the entry is about 250 k which gets you a first drink. I don't know exact details but have been at these locations previously.
CJs is just a huge dance club with a live band. The girls there are all working. 80% of them look plain and are in their 30's. 20% of them are in their 20%. You'll find a couple of stunners in the entire crowd. Various night by night of course. The friendliness varies too. You'll see Indo girls outright making out with middle eastern guys at the bar, DFK, etc. You'll see girls hiding in the crowd hoping you approach them. You'll get girls who come up to you and introduce themselves. It's a huge dance party where nobody's dancing, just standing around and trying to hook up. Everyone pays 250 k to enter, so the girls are trying to get business or they lose out the evening.
BATS is a huge dark bar with a more subtle live band. The action starts at around 10:30 PM because before that it's an empty restaurant. At 10:30, girls and westerners start to trickle in until the bar is completely full. It's a beautiful environment but the women are older also. 30's. I've been approached by several and they're all nice and business like, but in the end far too expensive. 1. 5 M for ST typical, if not more. You might be able to identify a girl who's not as attractive and knows this so she'll go as low as 1. 2 M ST. But I wasn't looking for company when I went. Ended up going to Classic and was very pleased.
9. The taxi company you can trust is Bluebird who also handles Pusaka. So remember the taxi companies named Bluebird and Pusaka. Everyone else is a trickster who'd rather operate without the meter and rip you a little. You should download My Bluebird App and see if you can hail a Bluebird. If all else fails and it looks like you're walking a few miles, then dig out those wrinkly bills and pay whatever fee the other taxis are looking for. If you can jive in a little bit of Bahasa Indonesia, try to say "I will only pay XX to go to HERE" and insert about 130% to 150% of the cab fee into XX. Otherwise, you might be screwed for even more. If you're cruising around Classic, Travel, and Kota Indah, there are these little 3 wheeled enclosed motorbikes. They're small and blue. These are safe and are usually cheaper than a taxi but you don't get air conditioning and you inhale a lot of bad exhaust fumes when the bike is stopped.
3. I can't recall the page #, there's a 40,000 IDR minimum to enter a floor. If I don't locate someone on floor 2, I want to leave for floor 5, and I don't buy 40,000 worth of drinks. Do I pay the different upon leaving? And does moving from floor to floor incur new minimum?40,000 is less than $3 USD. You will not find any drink for less than that. You can sit in there the entire night and never buy a drink if you want. If you don't buy a drink at all, you have to pay 40,000 to exit. They only have that entry fee to keep the locals out who can't afford 40 k. As tiny as the entry fee is, it's a good thing. That's the problem with places like kota indah, they don't charge any cover at all, so the lowest of the low locals go there and hang out all night stinking the place up with their smoking and taking up space.
The ground floor of Classic is called Bunker, it has a 50 k cover, but they do not charge white westerners that cover. The 2nd floor charges everyone the cover.
Blanquiceleste
05-27-19, 01:17
Where is Hotel Kota Indah located? I searched but I don't believe I'm searching correctly, my Google-fu isn't good on this one.
Are Jakarta taxi drivers horrendous with night charges. I know Bangkok taxi drivers are.Kota Indah is an area in North Jakarta. It is not a hotel. There are several bars in that area. Look for names like Starmoon, Grand LA, etc. You will easily find it on Google Maps.
As for transport, use only Bluebird taxis. Or use a ride sharing app called GRAB. Look for it in the Play store / App store.
Kota Indah is an area in North Jakarta.
As for transport, use only Bluebird taxis.Kota Indah is one of the few areas of Jakarta where you WILL be overcharged by the taxis waiting there. You will be fine at Hotel Classic because it's easy to find a bluebird there. It is not easy to get a bluebird at kota indah so you will likely end up with one of the mafia taxis where you have to overpay. Most of the people who go to kota indah are down market locals who drive there on their scooter. That's why there are hundreds of scooters all over the place in front of those little bars.
9. The taxi company you can trust is Bluebird who also handles Pusaka. So remember the taxi companies named Bluebird and Pusaka. Everyone else is a trickster who'd rather operate without the meter and rip you a little. In my opinion, that's not really the case. The "tricksters" are rare. You find them as the old broken beaten up taxis in north Jakarta near the brothels, or on the dirty streets of Blok M or other dicey mafia ridden areas. You won't likely find any taxi that doesn't use a meter at a place in Jakarta that doesn't have some nefarious activity going on. I actually prefer Express taxi over Bluebird because the Express taxis not only use the meter every time, but their price is cheaper and the drivers are smarter. If you want to get to a place that is not so popular, the chance a bluebird taxi knows it are almost zero, but an express taxi driver will very likely know. Gamya is also a good taxi, but Express is the best. Bluebird does have the nicest taxis, but many times their driver is a young kid who just started driving and doesn't know a thing about Jakarta.
Benderover.
Thanks for the depth of info, much appreciated.
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To get to Terminal in Classic, it's through the main front door? Are the prices at these hotels all inclusive or do you pay extra for the room and extra services like extra shots and CIM? The #4, per Chinese culture, is bad luck - #1 and #9 are the lucky numbers. I'm not on a tight budget, just trying to figure out charges and so on. Prices at BATS, CJ, and others are fairly comparable to the punting scene in Bangkok (cheaper) and Seoul (expensive). Also, do you know how regularly girls get tested at Malio, Classic, Travel, etc. ? Girls allowing BB with CIP is something I don't partake in and I hope they understand the risks involved.
Smoothy.
I'm not white, so no freebies for me or women lusting over me.
I keep seeing different info about coverage charges, meh, I'll just eat it as part of the P2P scene.
Thanks all for the info on Kota Indah, I might pass that area up.
I attached a work in progress image of what I usually do to determine where I stay and play.
BenderOver
05-27-19, 08:48
In my opinion, that's not really the case. The "tricksters" are rare. You find them as the old broken beaten up taxis in north Jakarta near the brothels, or on the dirty streets of Blok M or other dicey mafia ridden areas. You won't likely find any taxi that doesn't use a meter at a place in Jakarta that doesn't have some nefarious activity going on. I actually prefer Express taxi over Bluebird because the Express taxis not only use the meter every time, but their price is cheaper and the drivers are smarter. If you want to get to a place that is not so popular, the chance a bluebird taxi knows it are almost zero, but an express taxi driver will very likely know. Gamya is also a good taxi, but Express is the best. Bluebird does have the nicest taxis, but many times their driver is a young kid who just started driving and doesn't know a thing about Jakarta.Thanks for clarifying that Smoothy. When I was typing, I was thinking this, but when I read what I had typed previously, I didn't clarify who the tricksters were. There's always 3 or 4 cabs sitting in front of the Kota Indah alleyway and those guys. Boy. They're running the "last shift or else you walk" routine and usually, I just pay. Example. On my way to Kotah Indah in a blue bird it's about 80 k and that will include a tip. On the way BACK from kota Indah, I'm usually out 120 k. I look at it where the extra 50 k is $4. 30 and there's no way I'm going to sweat my balls off for 45 minutes for that. Also, I've tried hailing a Bluebird on My Bluebird App and these guys can never find their way to the right place! I see the little car symbol do you-turn after you-turn trying to get to where I'm at and it's ridiculous.
If you're looking for a cheap place and not a dump to stay, I've hit the d'prima ITC on Jl. Tiangseng before. Clean room, basic bed, shitty TV, bathroom is clean and the tiled shower was nice. I give it a 2. 5 to 3 star but after a long flight and not wanting to waste money on the room, the 380 k is cheap compared to the good quality of the room.
It was a total of 380 k for one night and I think I stayed there 5 hours just as a relay point to shower after a long flight, shave, and head out to Kota Indah five minute walk away. But I wasn't aware that the places were outright closed (I thought they were just really really slow). The bellman was a young kid who knew what went wrong and was quick to offer me his "friend" who was young and cute and did massages. She showed up and didn't disappoint. 600 k all in for ST plus a tip on the way out. I tipped the kid 100 k cause he really scored for me.
If anyone can chime in on the Horizon Arcadia, and share how the place was, it'd be helpful.
Offshore Swell
05-27-19, 16:06
Kota Indah is an area in North Jakarta. It is not a hotel. There are several bars in that area. Look for names like Starmoon, Grand LA, etc. You will easily find it on Google Maps..Kota Indah is not without it's risks, Like Smoothy says it is where every broken arsed punk and wannabe gangster in Jakarta ends up late at night. The security guys there put up with a lot. They are constantly being challenged by some punk or another. OS was there early in May and they wouldn't let this guy in to Grand LA who was getting really agitated. The stand off lasted about 15 minutes before he got in. OS was sitting right there with the security guys watching trying to work out what the issue was. It was a plainclothes policeman having a night out who still had his gun in his pocket and he wanted in. Security didn't want to let him in with a gun and they held that line as best they could.
Once you reach a certain level of wealth in tough guy Indonesia you can get a police permit for a pistol that you can carry anywhere in Indonesia except on a plane. Those dudes are known to enjoy a night out at Kota Indah.
I wondered and Inquired about that as well on my last visit and found out those rooms where we go to do our deed located on 3, 4. If you pay attention while walking with the girls from Terminal 2, there are one sided mirrors along the corridor where you see empty floors and that Gian Escalator. FYI occasionally these rooms are shared between T2 and T5. On my last visit, my duo girls took me to 5 as none of the rooms were available in 3, 4.
5. There are at least 5 floors to Classic. You may not see any posts about 3 or 4 simply because the businesses there have cycled or there may be no businesses there at all. I can't remember, but maybe Smoothy can advise what is on 3 and 4. Also, Indonesia has a superstitious thing about using L4 as a floor.
I have been using Grab mostly and no issues so far. Book using app and door to door service. On a rare occasion took Gojek as well but grab founds to be more reliable and nicer cars. Also, I can setup auto payments and Grab charges my MC end of the tip. Overall I find Grab to be more reliable, cheaper, cleaner and better vehicles compared Bluebirds.
Grab has a booth at the Airport on arrival and counter attendant can assist in booking the trip for you.
Kota Indah is an area in North Jakarta. It is not a hotel. There are several bars in that area. Look for names like Starmoon, Grand LA, etc. You will easily find it on Google Maps.
As for transport, use only Bluebird taxis. Or use a ride sharing app called GRAB. Look for it in the Play store / App store.
still had his gun in his pocket and he wanted in. Security didn't want to let him in with a gun and they held that line as best they could.
Once you reach a certain level of wealth in tough guy Indonesia you can get a police permit for a pistol that you can carry anywhere in Indonesia except on a plane.There was a guy who had given the waiter his credit card to pay the bill. For some reason, the card was declined. When the waiter came back and told the guy it was declined, the guy felt like he lost face in front of his friends and the girls so he pulled out a gun and shot the waiter dead. The sad thing is the guy who killed the waiter got off without doing any time in jail. Supposedly guns aren't allowed in Indonesia, but the rules aren't the same for everyone it seems.
BenderOver
05-27-19, 22:34
Benderover.
Thanks for the depth of info, much appreciated.
1- 5.
To get to Terminal in Classic, it's through the main front door? Are the prices at these hotels all inclusive or do you pay extra for the room and extra services like extra shots and CIM? The #4, per Chinese culture, is bad luck - #1 and #9 are the lucky numbers. I'm not on a tight budget, just trying to figure out charges and so on. Prices at BATS, CJ, and others are fairly comparable to the punting scene in Bangkok (cheaper) and Seoul (expensive). Also, do you know how regularly girls get tested at Malio, Classic, Travel, etc. ? Girls allowing BB with CIP is something I don't partake in and I hope they understand the risks involved.
Thanks all for the info on Kota Indah, I might pass that area up.To have fun at Classic anything, have a taxi drop you off at the hotel first. He's going to have to enter the driveway, get vehicle searched (standard procedure), drive into the parking building, loop around inside, and head back towards the exit. As he leaves the parking garage, there's the hotel lobby. Enter the hotel lobby and look to your right until you enter the atrium. It'll be five stories tall looking straight up. All around the inside of that atrium is like a mall. Pick your interest at all the different levels and go in to check it out!
When you finally select a girl, MMS will tell you a total amount. Pay her that amount and she'll bring you back change. It's fully inclusive for everything except a tip. Everyone will have a different opinion for what a tip is or should be, but 100 k for good service appears to be a going rate on this forum for Classic, Travel, and Kota Indah places. If you're super curious, the girl gets 100 k of your fee and keeps whatever tip you give her on top of that. However, she ends up spending 100 k per night overall being in the "system" due to bullshit expenses MMS puts on her account such as hair, makeup, transportation, interest, service fees, etc.
Girls getting tested? Probably never. They go in to get testing when they wonder why their periods been gone for a few months or why there's green pus down below or why their genitals feel like they sat on a beehive.
In regards to CJ's, I've taken a girl back to my hotel before for 1.5 M for LT and when the lights turned on, she was way older and fatter than I thought when I picked her up at the bar. I couldn't get it hard for the second round and she ended up leaving early anyways. So that was a bust. Then the second time, I eyeballed this gorgeous tall light skinned college beauty. Oh my god she was perfect. But she told her friend I looked mean and she was afraid of going home with me alone so she wanted her friend with her. Total 3 M. Sorry, that's a bit much and I don't need an audience. Her friend was actually very cool and was trying to help me out, but she just wasn't that attractive or young. Looking back, I'm 50-50 on paying the 3 M just to have tasted this girl. And for the record, I don't look mean or ugly. She was either sincerely a newbie and had her doubts about me or she was trying to upsell me. Both times in CJ's, I spent easily 1 M on entry and buying drinks for girls. Very expensive at this place.
Don't skip out on Kota Indah if it's open when you're there. LA Grand is easily the best hunting grounds I've been to. Second is Classic. Third is the masseuse girl that came to my hotel. Fourth is Travel. Based on this forum's recommendations, I've got to try out New Sari and the other joints in Kota Indah instead of just sticking it out at LA Grand.
BenderOver
05-27-19, 22:38
Can anyone compare how easy, cheap, plentiful, beautiful (face and body), and service is for the hobby in Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam etc?
China's pretty bad right now. No action at all and when it's even hinted at being available it's 2000 RMB or up for low quality looks and service.
Will Classic be open during Lebaran / eid al fitr? Essentially after Ramadan is over. 6th of June.
There's always 3 or 4 cabs sitting in front of the Kota Indah alleyway and those guys. Boy. They're running the "last shift or else you walk" routine and usually, I just pay. Example. On my way to Kotah Indah in a blue bird it's about 80 k and that will include a tip. On the way BACK from kota Indah, I'm usually out 120 k. And those taxis are in such ill repair, it's amazing they can ever make the trip. 80 k in a bluebird? You must be coming all the way from South Jakarta. That's an hour trip one way. Painful. Have you tried D'Heaven at Grand Wijaya center?
Banana Boi
05-28-19, 04:13
Can anyone compare how easy, cheap, plentiful, beautiful (face and body), and service is for the hobby in Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam etc?This depends a lot on what price range you want to pay for a ST or LT girl. What is the top price you want to spend for a 1 hour session?
Can anyone compare how easy, cheap, plentiful, beautiful (face and body), and service is for the hobby in Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam etc?.To be able to give any meaningful advice or information you need to say what your definitions are. Your question is far too general to be able to answer properly.
All of the locations you mentioned have $10 girls and $1000 girls, some guys are swimming in girls they find gorgeous and there have been reports of guys being unable to get laid in Pattaya and Angeles City, who I find beautiful you might find hideous and the same for service skills.
Lots of info here and many can help. You just need to specify what you want.
Enjoy. G.
BenderOver
05-28-19, 05:51
And those taxis are in such ill repair, it's amazing they can ever make the trip. 80 k in a bluebird? You must be coming all the way from South Jakarta. That's an hour trip one way. Painful. Have you tried D'Heaven at Grand Wijaya center?I've been reading the forum as well as other helpful sites and I'm looking forward to checking out the heaven, My place spa, and fortune but the sites typically rate them as plus or plus-plus. What looks intriguing is be fashion spa over by anggrek which appears to maybe be pricier but is a Plus-plus-plus location. I'm willing to adventure it out.
The last time I headed east from s. Jakarta, the taxi guy took a major major street all the way North to Pacific place before heading southwest again. Why do they don't his instead of taking one of the major streets straight to blok m or in this next case to Grand Wijaya?
BenderOver
05-28-19, 05:58
This depends a lot on what price range you want to pay for a ST or LT girl. What is the top price you want to spend for a 1 hour session?Well, in comparison to things I can say that Indo hotties run about 600 k to 1.7 M for ST and maybe up to 2.5 M for LT. These are all in excluding taxi, hotel, and airfare. If you had the option of spending a week smashing Kota indah and classic versus going to Bangkok, KL, Manilla, etc, where would you go for either hotter girls and same budget or similar hotness and lower cost? I'm assuming the action is similar in terms of sensual service, but if it's not and severely different, it'd be great to know!
I get a few days to piggyback a trip to any other location and the LB is looking to explore.
There was a guy who had given the waiter his credit card to pay the bill. For some reason, the card was declined. When the waiter came back and told the guy it was declined, the guy felt like he lost face in front of his friends and the girls so he pulled out a gun and shot the waiter dead. The sad thing is the guy who killed the waiter got off without doing any time in jail. Supposedly guns aren't allowed in Indonesia, but the rules aren't the same for everyone it seems.The father od the killer was Ibnu Sutowo, the first head of Pertamina, and arguable the only owner of a Rolls Royce in a time when it was not allowed to have a car that was not made in Indonesia.
The killer was not sentenced because the father of the victim supposedly has said that he doesn't want another father to loose a son.
China's pretty bad right now. No action at all and when it's even hinted at being available it's 2000 RMB or up for low quality looks and service.Even Shezhen and Guanzhou? I would be surprised if those places don't still rock. They were awesome when I was there last.
Blanquiceleste
05-28-19, 14:33
The father od the killer was Ibnu Sutowo, the first head of Pertamina, and arguable the only owner of a Rolls Royce in a time when it was not allowed to have a car that was not made in Indonesia.
The killer was not sentenced because the father of the victim supposedly has said that he doesn't want another father to loose a son.I thought he got 7 years after the father of the victim wrote to the judge pleading for a lenient sentence. Possible that he did not serve. Happened in Fluid, right?
Ggekko2009
05-28-19, 16:47
I thought he got 7 years after the father of the victim wrote to the judge pleading for a lenient sentence. Possible that he did not serve. Happened in Fluid, right?Here's the link reported back in 2005.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/super-rich-murderer-jailed-for-seven-years-20050617-gdlj29.html
LookAtWorld
05-28-19, 19:10
Found https://cityxguide.com/c/jakarta while researching for my upcoming trip. Looks similar to backpage from old days. Any feedback?
No listing has pricing mentioned. First impression is that this could be as bad as loconto but would like to hear from others if anyone tried.
Manfield04
05-28-19, 19:39
Thanks for sharing the link as I will be in Jakarta after Ramadan. This will be of much help.
Found https://cityxguide.com/c/jakarta while researching for my upcoming trip. Looks similar to backpage from old days.
SaranMonger31
05-28-19, 19:51
Found https://cityxguide.com/c/jakarta while researching for my upcoming trip. Looks similar to backpage from old days. Any feedback?
No listing has pricing mentioned. First impression is that this could be as bad as loconto but would like to hear from others if anyone tried.Tried to contact some seems most ads posted by pimps and also observed there are same ads posted in different location even different countries they post same ads with diff numbers. Need to be cautious.
Found https://cityxguide.com/c/jakarta while researching for my upcoming trip. Looks similar to backpage from old days. Any feedback?
No listing has pricing mentioned. First impression is that this could be as bad as loconto but would like to hear from others if anyone tried.One of those girls used to live down the hall from me, so I know she's real and on the game.
I've been reading the forum as well as other helpful sites and I'm looking forward to checking out D'heaven, My place spa, and fortune but the sites typically rate them as plus or plus-plus. What looks intriguing is be fashion spa over by anggrek which appears to maybe be pricier but is a Plus-plus-plus location. I'm willing to adventure it out.
B Fashion is indeed a good place. Medika is in that same area and if you like kota indah, you will very likely like Medika.
As Goferring stated, it based on how much you are willing to pay. Speaking for Bangkok, it so damn easy and everything is close together with a few subway stops away or walking. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and you will find them more if you're into overpriced drinks and loud music. Nana Plaza & Soi Cowboy (barfine + ST / LT). You can try the big massage parlors in the Huay Kwang area or smaller massage parlors around Soi 22, 24, 26, 31, 33. Going around the smaller massage parlors can be exhausting trying to find a girl. The smaller parlors run from 1700 - 2600 baht for 1 hour. Big parlors can run you from 2500 - 6000+ baht for 1 hour. I would skip KTV, I haven't had good experiences in KTV and you pay everyone for doing minor things.
To be able to give any meaningful advice or information you need to say what your definitions are. Your question is far too general to be able to answer properly.
All of the locations you mentioned have $10 girls and $1000 girls, some guys are swimming in girls they find gorgeous and there have been reports of guys being unable to get laid in Pattaya and Angeles City, who I find beautiful you might find hideous and the same for service skills.
Lots of info here and many can help. You just need to specify what you want.
Enjoy. G.
Banana Boi
05-29-19, 00:04
Medika is in that same area and if you like kota indah, you will very likely like Medika.Imo service level not nearly as good at new medika compared to kota Indah.
Never been to B Fashion but always meant to. Girls are hot there?
Imo service level not nearly as good at new medikaAs always, it depends on the girl. And maybe even if you speak Indonesian. I did have one so bad I walked out on her, but I have had some really excellent sessions there as well. I got the phone number of a couple of sexy dancers at Medika and they come to my place on occasion. One of them gives a 10/10 blow job, she's awesome. She's fine with 700 k when she visits. In my opinion, Medika is worthy of being included in the rotation. So is B Fashion, and you will likely prefer B Fashion, but I prefer Medika over B Fashion simply because it's a little more of the wild west mentality.
BenderOver
05-29-19, 03:53
The father od the killer was Ibnu Sutowo, the first head of Pertamina, and arguable the only owner of a Rolls Royce in a time when it was not allowed to have a car that was not made in Indonesia.
The killer was not sentenced because the father of the victim supposedly has said that he doesn't want another father to loose a son.What the father meant was that he didn't want his father to lose a son. Get my drift?
BenderOver
05-29-19, 04:01
Even Shezhen and Guanzhou? I would be surprised if those places don't still rock. They were awesome when I was there last.Dropped by Shanghai a few weeks ago and it was dead because the anniversary of the communist party is coming up and the Po-Po are shutting everything down until it's over. I frequented some awesome fishbowls a few years back that are all quiet for now.
Guangzhou is great but I don't know if the water spas are taking a break for the same anniversary celebration. Even when they were going full steam, it was not easy to find action and it was usually plus-plus only. Sure plus-plus-plus was available, but you couldn't even buy it on the menu except for one or places. A majority of the spas (like 8 out of 10) were only plus and it's pricey! I also went to SZ once by train because my dick for some reason thought it was a pussy divining rod. Boy did it let me down that trip. 2.5 hours on a train each way and ended up getting CFS from a gal that's 10 years older, 15 pounds heavier, and Jack Nicholson uglier than she should be. Oh yeah, the place was a total dump too.
Don't get me wrong, China may rock again later but for the time being it's slow due to the political attention of the celebration.
Well, in comparison to things I can say that Indo hotties run about 600 k to 1.7 M for ST and maybe up to 2.5 M for LT. These are all in excluding taxi, hotel, and airfare. If you had the option of spending a week smashing Kota indah and classic versus going to Bangkok, KL, Manilla, etc, where would you go for either hotter girls and same budget or similar hotness and lower cost? I'm assuming the action is similar in terms of sensual service, but if it's not and severely different, it'd be great to know!
I get a few days to piggyback a trip to any other location and the LB is looking to explore.Girls are ultimately cheaper in Jakarta than the cities you mentioned (assuming you stick to places like Classic), but there's more variety and alternative entertainment options in those other cities especially Bangkok. Plus if Bangkok is not working out jump on a $4 bus to Pattaya.
Plus it's not particularly enjoyable hanging out at a Kota Indah bar.
I can only assume some arrangement was made. Maybe he was looking forward to driving a new Rolls.
The father od the killer was Ibnu Sutowo, the first head of Pertamina, and arguable the only owner of a Rolls Royce in a time when it was not allowed to have a car that was not made in Indonesia.
The killer was not sentenced because the father of the victim supposedly has said that he doesn't want another father to loose a son.Nowadays, cash is king. If you are able to take enough out of your account in cash. There was a time when Amex was the card. I never had an Amex declined but had with other cards and banks. Buffet got questioned when he was taking out his regular 8 k or so for his wife's pocket change. Go figure.
LookAtWorld
05-29-19, 19:13
One of those girls used to live down the hall from me, so I know she's real and on the game.Good to know. Thanks. I will try during my July trip and will post my review.
Blanquiceleste
05-30-19, 00:37
Don't get me wrong, China may rock again later but for the time being it's slow due to the political attention of the celebration.China still rocks, but only for the privileged or the well-connected. The average monger has no hope in hell there for times to come.
Hello friends,
Will be visiting Jakarta on 2nd week of June.
Its a short trip so I won't be able to take more than 1 WG.
My preferences are young, beautiful, good asset, good service.
I won't be able to arrange place.
And I will be taking her for maximum 2 shots.
All kinds are welcome be it Indonesian or Vietnamese.
Haven't taken Vietnamese before though.
Would love to try something out in Vietnamese.
Kindly provide some leads.
I would love to be of assistance in return.
I have very less space in my inbox so please bear with me if it gets full.
I'll try to make space for everyone.
Cheers.
I have very less space in my inbox so please bear with me if it gets full.Your inbox is full? Come on. With a first post on this forum like that, you have got to be kidding. Who is going to send you a PM? My guess is very few. There's lots of information here on the forum already. I suggest you either read the forum for information or maybe try making a connection on facebook https://www.facebook.com/JakartaIndian/.
Quagmire1974
05-31-19, 05:43
Hey fellas,
Well, here it is, the trip report for my visit to Jakarta in mid-April 2019. Apologies for the tardiness of this report, but I've been swamped with tasks and duties since I got back from Indonesia and only recently have had time to sit down and compose this report.
Apologies to anyone who thinks that my report is tedious. But as anyone can see from my many other reports on ISG (Medellin, Sint Maarten, Budapest, Guadalajara, San Salvador, Saint Petersburg, Merida, Trinidad, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Tokyo, Vancouver, Quito, Belize City), I tend to be hyper-specific with information. But for this report, if you just want the details of my (attempted) mongering, skip down to number five below.
1) Airline. I hopped across the Pacific on EVA Air:
www.evaair.com/en-us/index.html#
Traveling to 34 different countries since 2008, this is the first airline to ever hassle me about the weight of my carry-on bag, and I've been on everything, from a 787 Dreamliner out of Tokyo to a Cessna 208 Caravan into Guatemala. But they redeemed themselves when it was time to hop back across the Pacific. Forced to wait for documents, we left Jakarta an hour and a half late and landed in Taipei ten minutes after my connecting flight was supposed to depart. Luckily, they held the connecting flight for me and about a dozen other passengers connecting in Taipei from other flights. All in all, I was pretty satisfied with EVA Air and will likely use them for a future trip to Taipei.
2) Guidebook. I used Lonely Planet Pocket Jakarta:
shop.lonelyplanet.com/search?q=Jakarta
In all of my travels, I've almost always used Lonely Planet guidebooks and have always used their full-size country or city guidebooks, so I was pretty skeptical about a pocket-size version. But Lonely Planet Pocket Jakarta was packed with information about what to see, where to eat, where to shop, and where to party. The only information that it didn't have was where to sleep, but most tourists probably already have a hotel reservation before they land at the airport anyway. A new edition of the Lonely Planet Pocket Jakarta guidebook is scheduled to be released this July.
3) Passport. There was some recent discussion in this forum about carrying your passport on your person and running the risk of losing it or having it stolen by a pickpocket versus not carrying it and running the risk of being shaken-down by corrupt law enforcement who request to see your passport and immigration stamp at a police or military checkpoint. Well, for over a week, I walked all over Jakarta and took many taxis, and not once did anyone ask to see my passport or immigration stamp. The exception to that was at Dua Sisi Money Changer in Plaza Senayan, where I needed to provide my passport each time I made a currency exchange. Otherwise, I kept my passport in the security safe of my hotel room with no issues.
4) Hotel. Speaking of hotel, I was lodged for over a week at Fairmont Jakarta:
www.fairmont.com/jakarta/
Now, Natty Bumpo said:
Now to my Fairmont review: Wow! This IS a true 5-star hotel. It is also very large, about 5 times as large as the Fairmont Makati. The 1-bedroom suite was the size of two deluxe rooms with a living room / dining room, the bedroom and 1. 5 bathrooms. Everything was modern, new and top quality.And he was exactly right. Clean and modern with a friendly and helpful staff and an amazing breakfast buffet, Fairmont Jakarta was perfect for my time in the city. The hotel is connected to Plaza Senayan via underground and above-ground passages, with Senayan City a short, outdoor walk away. At both Plaza Senayan and Senayan City, there's extensive shopping, currency exchange, and restaurants. If you'd like to have a good sampling of food from Indonesia but don't want to go too far from Fairmont Jakarta, go to Remboelan, which has a location in both Plaza Senayan and Senayan City. Personally, I found the Remboelan in Senayan City to be more hip with better service than at the Remboelan in Plaza Senayan.
5) Attempted Session. I visited CJ's Bar on the Saturday immediately before Easter Sunday. CJ's is located on the second floor of Hotel Mulia and is an easy, 15-minute walk from Fairmont Jakarta. When you walk through the main entrance of Hotel Mulia, take the staircase on the right, which will bring you to the receptionist desk and entrance doors of the bar.
I arrived at the ridiculously early time of 945 pm. At the desk, the receptionist told me that there was an Easter party that night and that the cover charge was two hundred sixty thousand rupiah. I paid the cover charge and got both a receipt for a Heineken draft as my welcome drink and an Easter cookie from the receptionist.
I entered the bar, got a quick "hand wand" security check, then exchanged my receipt for a small Heineken draft at the bar. The place was dead, but I made eye contact with a couple of WGs who were already on the prowl and took a seat at a section of one of the raised tables that didn't have a reserved sign on it. I made conversation with one of the waiters, who said that a sofa in the VIP section was four million three hundred thousand rupiah with one million three hundred thousand rupiah in food and drinks included, while couches in the other room (the one with the painting of the Rolling Stones on the wall) was two million rupiah with one million rupiah in food and drinks included.
I quickly finished my Heineken and ordered a bottled Bintang beer from a waiter for one hundred twenty thousand rupiah. From the time I sat down and until the band started playing at 11 pm, I was approached by two WGs. The first was unappealingly pear-shaped and promised a great massage and sex until I was tired. The second said she was 33 years old but honestly looked 45. Both WGs started with the usual questions (What is your name? Where are you staying? How long will you be in Jakarta?) and immediately quoted prices in dollars but switched to rupiah when asked. Their opening offers were somewhere in the neighborhood of two million to two million five hundred thousand rupiah, but they quickly dropped to one million five hundred thousand rupiah when I genuinely acted not interested. Once the band started playing at 11 pm, most WGs in the place retreated to the bar near the entrance door so they could eye-fuck potential clients around the room. And at 1 am, with most WGs eagerly puffing away on cigarettes and rolling clouds of smoke filling the room, I decided to tap out and head back to the hotel. Even though I didn't monger, I'm happy I had the experience, as the band was great and the crowd was lively and fun.
So that's it. Apologies for this not being the hottest, nastiest, ball-slappingest report that's ever been written for ISG, but if even one monger finds my contribution useful, then I'll be satisfied. Just for the hell of it, I've attached a picture of the receipts for my Bintang beers, my Fairmont Jakarta room key card, and the Easter cookie that CJ's was giving out on the night of my visit. Comments, questions, and insults are welcome from other ISG mongers.
Your inbox is full? Come on.Same thought! But how come you concluded that he is Indian?
Offshore Swell
05-31-19, 11:17
Hello friends,
Will be visiting Jakarta on 2nd week of June.
Its a short trip so I won't be able to take more than 1 WG.
My preferences are young, beautiful, good asset, good service.
I won't be able to arrange place.
And I will be taking her for maximum 2 shots.
All kinds are welcome be it Indonesian or Vietnamese.
Haven't taken Vietnamese before though.
Would love to try something out in Vietnamese.
Kindly provide some leads.
I would love to be of assistance in return.
I have very less space in my inbox so please bear with me if it gets full.
I'll try to make space for everyone.
Cheers.Yeah looks like it's not your lucky day Mr JBB. I sent you a PM with the phone numbers of 5 of my 18 old "special friends" in Jakarta. All of who also love to do anal and who get really turned on by men with a sense of privilege like you sound to be. But your inbox was full, how sad!. Too bad I am going mountain climbing in Antarctica for the next 3 months and won't be able to help you anymore. Would have loved to share my contacts with you. Not!
Same thought! But how come you concluded that he is Indian?Smoothy concluded because his past posts are in Indian threads.
OnTheScene
05-31-19, 13:20
I haven't been to Jakarta for 8 years and can only remember the name of one place I visited which was Hotel Travel, I visited 2 other clubs a short distance by taxi from Hotel Travel, I will be returning soon, can anyone recommend any good clubs / massage parlours to visit which is near to Hotel Travel.
Not just Indian but Jbb pretty much declared himself Senior member of Mumbai and seeking contacts! He made similar post in Mumbai but luckily he was looking for Afro instead of Indonesian or Vietnamese! I don't know what kind of herbs he is on but it's definitely not working on his favor LMAO. His Hyderabad post is quite interesting too.
Smoothy concluded because his past posts are in Indian threads.
Hello friends,
Will be visiting Jakarta on 2nd week of June.
<snip>
I won't be able to arrange place.
<snip>
All kinds are welcome be it Indonesian or Vietnamese.
Haven't taken Vietnamese before though.
Would love to try something out in Vietnamese.
1) If you like Vietnamese girls, you are visiting the wrong country.
2) "I won't be able to arrange place".
This is a strange comment. OK let me guess. Your plane ticket was expensive and you are short on Cash now.
This message is a prime example of how to annoy, irritate and destroy goodwill.
~BKKguru
Smoothy concluded because his past posts are in Indian threads.Not really. I didn't need to look at any old posts. It seems that almost every Indian visiting Jakarta for the first time has either sent me a PM or posted the same format of text. It's easily identifiable.
And I do agree with BKKGuru's comment that "This message is a prime example of how to annoy, irritate and destroy goodwill." Unfortunately, it seems to be pretty much every time any Indian posts on this Jakarta forum for the first time. Must be a cultural thing.
Ggekko2009
05-31-19, 16:46
So that's it. Apologies for this not being the hottest, nastiest, ball-slappingest report that's ever been written for ISG, but if even one monger finds my contribution useful, then I'll be satisfied. Just for the hell of it, I've attached a picture of the receipts for my Bintang beers, my Fairmont Jakarta room key card, and the Easter cookie that CJ's was giving out on the night of my visit. Comments, questions, and insults are welcome from other ISG mongers.We certainly appreciate your contribution to this forum with your report. It provides readers with well rounded information to the Jakarta scenes.
Uncle Volodya
05-31-19, 17:02
A close friend's wife who is a cool California MILF (smokes weed and is not judgmental and still looks good for her age. Not that I would try anything we are practically family) goes to Jakarta all the time for business and stays at the Mullia.
Shew will pop down to CJs for a drink when she is there and people watch so we compared notes.
She is convinced the place is run by mamsans and says she has met them before and watched them control their "bitches". I never encountered any such thing in my 10+ visits there and have only talked to FL girls (most who were there alone or with a friend or two).
At first I though she was talking about Classic or Malioboro the way she was describing the place. LOL But she was describing her time at CJs.
In any case, have any of you more experienced mongers encountered mamsans there? I think my milfy friend was just high or overexagerating (in the typical Western female fashion when it comes to our hobbie).
Come to think of it we were both pretty high when we had this conversation so that could also explain things. LOL.
Stay horny my friends!
Uncle V.
LookAtWorld
05-31-19, 18:04
Must be a cultural thing.Yes, it is a cultural thing. Not trying to be defensive of irritating requests for help, desperate pleas for sharing the contacts. Here are my 2 cents, hoping to improve the understanding of my fellow country men in this forum.
Culturally, India is not "individualistic" unlike West and this is similar to Asian culture. Applying this to men, they are used to be part of a group where all the requests for help or providing help to others are very informal. Its perfectly normal for a Indian man to help a friend in a life altering way and not even expecting a return of "thank you". And this friend would have done the same thing to him, is the basis of this, it is not lacking gratitude. While this sounds normal, mix this concept with inexperienced men, exposed to global citizens. All these requests sound very much like "entitlement". While typing the request, he would have felt that the request is legitimate, but that is not the case in a global forum like this. Sometimes, I also read messages which kind of said in the similar lines of "I don't have time to read the forum, someone summarize it for me". I tried to explain how these ideas are coming from.
Change to "individualistic" culture is happening across India and is happening faster than ever with growing economy, nuclear families with high percentage of disposable income. Future might judge next generation more kindly. But I am part of this transitional generation and it is personally frustrating for me to take the slaps that were reserved for my fellow country man who deserved them.
Ggekko2009
05-31-19, 23:09
A close friend's wife who is a cool California MILF (smokes weed and is not judgmental and still looks good for her age. Not that I would try anything we are practically family) goes to Jakarta all the time for business and stays at the Mullia.
Shew will pop down to CJs for a drink when she is there and people watch so we compared notes.
She is convinced the place is run by mamsans and says she has met them before and watched them control their "bitches". I never encountered any such thing in my 10+ visits there and have only talked to FL girls (most who were there alone or with a friend or two).
At first I though she was talking about Classic or Malioboro the way she was describing the place. LOL But she was describing her time at CJs.
In any case, have any of you more experienced mongers encountered mamsans there? I think my milfy friend was just high or overexagerating (in the typical Western female fashion when it comes to our hobbie).
Come to think of it we were both pretty high when we had this conversation so that could also explain things. LOL.
Stay horny my friends!
Uncle V.I have never heard from the CJ girls ever mentioning about mamasans there. I would know since these CJ freelancers that I pick up usually share a lot of gossips with me. Even though I don't go to Jakarta often, these girls would occasionally check in with me to ask about my next visit to CJ, or if they are bored or feeling down, would just chat with me over everything via WhatsApp.
Nonetheless, the freelancers do know each other relativity well and they do share info among one another.
A close friend's wife who is a cool California MILF (smokes weed and is not judgmental and still looks good for her age.
have any of you more experienced mongers encountered mamsans there?I took my sister to CJs not too long ago. She's a blonde haired blue eyed western chick who also still looks good. She is spoiled by the night clubs in the USA where almost every guy drools over her, so she thought CJs sucked. She did however really like Sky Garden in Bali. I have never seen a mamasan in CJs, but a lot of the girls who go there are old enough to be mamasans.
I took my sister to CJs not too long ago. She's a blonde haired blue eyed western chick who also still looks good. She is spoiled by the night clubs in the USA where almost every guy drools over her, so she thought CJs sucked. She did however really like Sky Garden in Bali.Do disrespect to your sister but that happens all the time. Teachers are notorious for going from being fawned over on a night out in the west to unable to score a free drink in Indonesia.
Its understandable that they don't see Indo as the Paradise that we guys do.
Enjoy. G.
PS. Of course, that's until they find the local guys' penchant for white meat. Lol
BenderOver
06-01-19, 02:47
I haven't been to Jakarta for 8 years and can only remember the name of one place I visited which was Hotel Travel, I visited 2 other clubs a short distance by taxi from Hotel Travel, I will be returning soon, can anyone recommend any good clubs / massage parlours to visit which is near to Hotel Travel.New Kimochi on Jl. Mangga Besar II. Travel Hotel is Jl Mangga Besar VIII so it's about 6 blocks westerly and just south of Jl Raya Mangga Besar.
Teachers are notorious for going from being fawned over on a night out in the west to unable to score a free drink in Indonesia.With the exception of Bali.
I do still try to flirt with western teachers in Jakarta when they are cute. I don't do it in the bars, but in grocery stores, etc. The problem is I am 30 years older than them and they have no interest in me these days (and I have no interest in one my age). When I very first came to Jakarta and I was still young, I would go to Chammps in Kemang and meet western girls there. Back then, they were receptive. But if I go a working girl bar like CJs, I would not even consider talking to a western woman.
I took my sister to CJs not too long ago. She's a blonde haired blue eyed western chick who also still looks good. She is spoiled by the night clubs in the USA where almost every guy drools over her, so she thought CJs sucked. She did however really like Sky Garden in Bali. I have never seen a mamasan in CJs, but a lot of the girls who go there are old enough to be mamasans.I like vag and I wasn't impressed by CJs.
I like vag and I wasn't impressed by CJs.Yes, you've already mentioned about 5 times here that you went there once and didn't find anything you liked that night.
Yes, you've already mentioned about 5 times here that you went there once and didn't find anything you liked that night.And you've mentioned probably hundreds of times that you enjoy CJs.
And you've mentioned probably hundreds of times that you enjoy CJs.The difference is that I have been there a lot more than once. There are nights I go there when there is no talent and I leave. But there are other nights I go there that are great. If you read through old posts, you will see plenty of times where I will say something like "it was a sausage fest at CJs (or BATS) tonight, so I left immediately" or "there was little to no talent at CJs (or BATS) tonight, so I left after one drink". That doesn't mean the place sucks, it just means that night sucked.
Your insults against CJs after going there only once are ridiculous. If you want consistency, stick with your mafia controlled brothels where the girls don't have a choice to not show up. Any free lance venue in Jakarta does not consistently have good talent because the girls who go there are "free lancers" and do not always go to same venue and sometimes don't go out at all. But when it's a good night, the place is great.
OnTheScene
06-03-19, 12:29
New Kimochi on Jl. Mangga Besar II. Travel Hotel is Jl Mangga Besar VIII so it's about 6 blocks westerly and just south of Jl Raya Mangga Besar.Benderover thanks for the info. Is New Kimochi the same type of set up as Travel Hotel?
Pedros Needs
06-05-19, 06:01
I spent a few days in Jakarta earlier last month.
Arranged to meet a few that I met mainly through Tagged, they were willing to make contact when I was in town.
Hits and Miss which is to be expected, I cancelled 2 when they text me on Whatsapp to tell me they were leaving knowing it would take them an hour to come just at the time we arranged to meet at the hotel. I am never late be it in Jakarta where traffic is the common excuse, nor do I accept real lateness, 10 minutes passes by I start to ask questions.
I stop close to Sarinah shopping center so revisited Enzo Spa having done so with OK results on a previous visit.
Was introduced to a 8/10 her name escapes me, as all do she has little English.
I translated on my mobile in English to Indo, I am wanting extra service this time. With that she made a circle with one hand putting the finger from the other through it, so it was pretty clear we were on the same page, as I nodded yes.
She was demanding 1 Mill we compromised at 800 which made it the 1 Mill with what I paid on entry, but for me was money well spent.
I will return, some great lookers there, not sure FS will be on offer each time, on my previous visit a cutey gave me a HJ not asking for extra, I tipped her 150 regardless which of course pleased.
I will be heading there again on my next visit, the pleasing service aside, it is so much easier rolling up knowing its there on offer not needing to be negotiated and drawn out as it can be on many occasions with privates or freelancers.
Pedro.
OnTheScene
06-05-19, 10:42
I am working out a plan of action for my next trip to Jakarta. I will only be in Jakarta for 3 days so have no time to waste. I am going to stay in a Hotel near Hotel Travel, I remember the traffic being a total nightmare and don't want to waste a lot of time sitting in traffic, how long will it roughly take in the evening to travel by taxi from hotel travel to kota indah area, and also interested in checking out Maliboro, is this far from hotel travel.
I am working out a plan of action for my next trip to Jakarta. I will only be in Jakarta for 3 days so have no time to waste. I am going to stay in a Hotel near Hotel Travel, I remember the traffic being a total nightmare and don't want to waste a lot of time sitting in traffic, how long will it roughly take in the evening to travel by taxi from hotel travel to kota indah area, and also interested in checking out Maliboro, is this far from hotel travel.That's the shittiest area of town, but it is where all the brothels are located. All brothels are within 15 minutes from each other, so going from one brothel to another is a non issue in that area. (other than Kelapa Gading, which rocks, but you don't seem to know about anyway).
Blanquiceleste
06-06-19, 01:17
I am working out a plan of action for my next trip to Jakarta. I will only be in Jakarta for 3 days so have no time to waste. I am going to stay in a Hotel near Hotel Travel, I remember the traffic being a total nightmare and don't want to waste a lot of time sitting in traffic, how long will it roughly take in the evening to travel by taxi from hotel travel to kota indah area, and also interested in checking out Maliboro, is this far from hotel travel.My suggestion would be stay at any of the hotels on Gajah Madah / Hayam Waruk. From there you can easily access Classic and Travel. Also easily go to Malio. Also easily go to Kota Indah. If you are thinking about a slightly better spa like experience, then there is 1001 and Delta, both easily accessible. All places are a short 10 min ride on a GoJek (ride share app for bikes).
Alternately if you want zero down time, stay at Hotel Classic, their rooms are not bad. The brothel operates from 3 pm to 3 am every day and there are more chicks than you can possibly shag in 3 days. You are only limited by your own stamina and appetite.
Alternately if you want zero down time, stay at Hotel Classic, their rooms are not bad. The brothel operates from 3 pm to 3 am every day and there are more chicks than you can possibly shag in 3 days. You are only limited by your own stamina and appetite.This is good advice. I never understand why someone who is in town 3 days wants to visit every venue under the sun. It's 3 friggin days. Even sticking with Hotel Classic or Hotel Travel every single day, you will not have sex with every girl in there that you found to be attractive. It's not as if there are big differences between these places. Freelance places are a different story and I can understand why it's prudent to visit multiple venues, but the brothels are pretty much offering the same thing and there is no shortage of girls to last for 3 days in any of them.
OnTheScene
06-06-19, 13:06
That's the shittiest area of town, but it is where all the brothels are located. All brothels are within 15 minutes from each other, so going from one brothel to another is a non issue in that area. (other than Kelapa Gading, which rocks, but you don't seem to know about anyway).Can you recommend any places worth visiting in the Kelapa Gading area? I m now thinking about spending a further 2 nights in Jakarta on the return leg of my trip so could possibly check out this area then.
I am working out a plan of action for my next trip to Jakarta. I will only be in Jakarta for 3 days so have no time to waste. I am going to stay in a Hotel near Hotel Travel, I remember the traffic being a total nightmare and don't want to waste a lot of time sitting in traffic, how long will it roughly take in the evening to travel by taxi from hotel travel to kota indah area, and also interested in checking out Maliboro, is this far from hotel travel.Traffic is not a huge issue if you are staying in that part of Jakarta and wanting to visit the major brothels. Travel Hotel to Classic is a 5 minute ojek ride even with traffic. Travel to Kota Indah is at most 10 minutes on an ojek. Later in the evening (even early evening) traffic is non issue in that part of the city.
OnTheScene
06-06-19, 19:31
My suggestion would be stay at any of the hotels on Gajah Madah / Hayam Waruk. From there you can easily access Classic and Travel. Also easily go to Malio. Also easily go to Kota Indah. If you are thinking about a slightly better spa like experience, then there is 1001 and Delta, both easily accessible. All places are a short 10 min ride on a GoJek (ride share app for bikes).
Alternately if you want zero down time, stay at Hotel Classic, their rooms are not bad. The brothel operates from 3 pm to 3 am every day and there are more chicks than you can possibly shag in 3 days. You are only limited by your own stamina and appetite.Thanks for the info. Can you recommend any hotels in Gajah Madah / Hayam Waruk.
Can you recommend any places worth visiting in the Kelapa Gading area? I m now thinking about spending a further 2 nights in Jakarta on the return leg of my trip so could possibly check out this area then.King's Cross, MTR2, and D'Heaven. Sumo is also good. They are all right next to each other. You can walk from one to the other in a minute.
Blanquiceleste
06-07-19, 01:08
Thanks for the info. Can you recommend any hotels in Gajah Madah / Hayam Waruk.I must have woken up on the right side of bed today. Why else would I reply to such a question from a BM who has 5 posts, all questions!
The answer to this question really depends on your budget. A simple search on Agoda reveals 106 different options. However, I am not feeling that good that I would list out all these 106 hotels along with price and a short description of the hotel and a note whether its girl-friendly or not (yes, I see that question coming next!
BenderOver
06-07-19, 06:32
Benderover thanks for the info. Is New Kimochi the same type of set up as Travel Hotel?Travel Hotel is like Classic. Big huge disco with nobody dancing. Loud music. Alcohol service. All the guys smoking cigarettes. Girls sitting on couches up against the wall. You walk in and MMS stalks right up to you pointing her laser pointer at any girl she thinks you might have a fancy for. You have the pick of anywhere from 50 to 150 fuckable girls, but you'll probably have your eye set on your few favorite.
New Kimochi is not a disco place. It's a massage parlor. You enter, it's quiet in the lobby with a counter. They have a couple of dozen photos of girls in uniform up on the board. You pick one you like (and hopefully she's not already in a session) and they ask you if you want plus, plus plus, or plus plus plus. You pay accordingly and go up for your massage.
When you're done, you can leave. The last time I tried to tip the girl 100 k, she tried to give it back to me telling me that I paid in full downstairs already. I smiled at her, closed her hand around the bill, and told her I knew and it was hers to keep. She beamed a big smile at me like tips are very unusual and I was a prince. Who knows. When in doubt, leave a tip, don't be an asshole.
Check out Best Western Mangga Dua, huge high-rise building with decent rooms and pretty good breakfast. KI / Classic / Travel nearby.
Thanks for the info. Can you recommend any hotels in Gajah Madah / Hayam Waruk.
Does any brother has any recent experience of Kimochi 2? As much as I enjoy Classic night life, need to get out for that building for some day game!
OnTheScene
06-07-19, 09:42
Traffic is not a huge issue if you are staying in that part of Jakarta and wanting to visit the major brothels. Travel Hotel to Classic is a 5 minute ojek ride even with traffic. Travel to Kota Indah is at most 10 minutes on an ojek. Later in the evening (even early evening) traffic is non issue in that part of the city.Thanks for the info.
King's Cross, MTR2, and D'Heaven. Sumo is also good. They are all right next to each other. You can walk from one to the other in a minute.Thanks I will check these out on the return leg of my trip. I will post a report when I get back home.
OnTheScene
06-07-19, 19:58
Travel Hotel is like Classic. Big huge disco with nobody dancing. Loud music. Alcohol service. All the guys smoking cigarettes. Girls sitting on couches up against the wall. You walk in and MMS stalks right up to you pointing her laser pointer at any girl she thinks you might have a fancy for. You have the pick of anywhere from 50 to 150 fuckable girls, but you'll probably have your eye set on your few favorite.
New Kimochi is not a disco place. It's a massage parlor. You enter, it's quiet in the lobby with a counter. They have a couple of dozen photos of girls in uniform up on the board. You pick one you like (and hopefully she's not already in a session) and they ask you if you want plus, plus plus, or plus plus plus. You pay accordingly and go up for your massage.
When you're done, you can leave. The last time I tried to tip the girl 100 k, she tried to give it back to me telling me that I paid in full downstairs already. I smiled at her, closed her hand around the bill, and told her I knew and it was hers to keep. She beamed a big smile at me like tips are very unusual and I was a prince. Who knows. When in doubt, leave a tip, don't be an asshole.Great info Top Man.
Check out Best Western Mangga Dua, huge high-rise building with decent rooms and pretty good breakfast. KI / Classic / Travel nearby.Thanks for the info. I know you can search online for hotels but you can't beat a recommendation, a good breakfast is a must after a big night out.
All the guys smoking cigarettes.So true. It's amazing how almost every local smokes in those places.
I guess I was blind to read your report. Question though, what are the differences between plus, plus plus and plus plus plus. LOL. Reminds me of the movie "Dictator" where there was several meanings of same word Aladdin, LMAO.
Travel Hotel is like Classic. Big huge disco with nobody dancing. Loud music. Alcohol service. All the guys smoking cigarettes. Girls sitting on couches up against the wall. You walk in and MMS stalks right up to you pointing her laser pointer at any girl she thinks you might have a fancy for. You have the pick of anywhere from 50 to 150 fuckable girls, but you'll probably have your eye set on your few favorite.
New Kimochi is not a disco place. It's a massage parlor. You enter, it's quiet in the lobby with a counter. They have a couple of dozen photos of girls in uniform up on the board. You pick one you like (and hopefully she's not already in a session) and they ask you if you want plus, plus plus, or plus plus plus. You pay accordingly and go up for your massage..
Offshore Swell
06-08-19, 06:24
Can you recommend any places worth visiting in the Kelapa Gading area? I m now thinking about spending a further 2 nights in Jakarta on the return leg of my trip so could possibly check out this area then.As Smoothy said, Kings Cross Sumo and MTR2. Then you are 10 minutes by Ojek from the Tanjung Priok bars, Rawa Malang if your budget is low and plenty of massage with ++ available at the block named Ruko Gading Bukit Indah which is 400 meters from Santika hotel My Place and some others and then a golf driving range around 200 meters further down from the Kings Cross, Sumo area.
Kelapa Gading is not a bad destination for our craft. It is also the food epicentre of Jakarta with hundreds of restaurants. Sarang Oci is very good for fish and Manado cuisine.
If I was on a 3 day stay in Jakarta and could choose any place to stay, I would stay right next to the Kelapa Gading area and hit those places. Kelapa Gading Mall is very close to them as well. It's a one stop shopping center perfectly designed for mongers.
Blanquiceleste
06-08-19, 15:18
If I was on a 3 day stay in Jakarta and could choose any place to stay, I would stay right next to the Kelapa Gading area and hit those places. Kelapa Gading Mall is very close to them as well. It's a one stop shopping center perfectly designed for mongers.
I have thought about this several times, however I always end up staying in Central Jakarta, because I like the club scene in the night. Would girls from the popular night spots in Central / South Jakarta be open to going with an admirer all the way to Kelapa Gading? I think it might be a challenge, no?
Offshore Swell
06-09-19, 14:08
I have thought about this several times, however I always end up staying in Central Jakarta, because I like the club scene in the night. Would girls from the popular night spots in Central / South Jakarta be open to going with an admirer all the way to Kelapa Gading? I think it might be a challenge, no?Sort of depends what you promise her when she gets to Kelapa Gading, If You tell her you caught a lizard it may not work. If it's shopping at Mall Kelapa Gading then you might get your girl.
I have thought about this several times, however I always end up staying in Central Jakarta, because I like the club scene in the night. Would girls from the popular night spots in Central / South Jakarta be open to going with an admirer all the way to Kelapa Gading? I think it might be a challenge, no?If I recall, you mentioned you paid a BATS girl 2.5 million. If you are paying them that much, they will follow you pretty much anywhere.
When I have free lancers come to a place that far away and only pay them 1 million or less for their services, I normally give them an extra 100k for taxi. If they are getting 1.5 million or more, they already have their taxi money.
OnTheScene
06-09-19, 15:36
I have read on the forum that CJ'S and Bats is a good place to find Freelancers. I am going to Bali for a few days after I leave Jakarta. I am thinking of maybe taking a freelancer with me rather than hunting about in Bali. What's the daily rate for a freelancer if I pay all expenses like flights, hotels, food, drink and all entertainment costs.
Blanquiceleste
06-10-19, 01:36
If I recall, you mentioned you paid a BATS girl 2.5 million. If you are paying them that much, they will follow you pretty much anywhere.
When I have free lancers come to a place that far away and only pay them 1 million or less for their services, I normally give them an extra 100k for taxi. If they are getting 1.5 million or more, they already have their taxi money.Thanks. Perhaps I will stay at Kelapa Gading after all, because I don't mind paying 2. 5 mn for the right girl. And I couldn't care less what others pay.
I have read on the forum that CJ'S and Bats is a good place to find Freelancers. I am going to Bali for a few days after I leave Jakarta. I am thinking of maybe taking a freelancer with me rather than hunting about in Bali. What's the daily rate for a freelancer if I pay all expenses like flights, hotels, food, drink and all entertainment costs.Aren't you only in Jakarta 3 days? You won't likely have time to find a girl to go to Bali with you in that short time frame. It's a big gamble taking a girl to Bali that you just met.
If you do find one you like enough to take to Bali, it depends how much the girl likes you. Most girls will go to Bali for free (other than you paying all expenses) if they really like you. You may need to pay up to 1 million for "oleh oleh" (gifts) for their family and friends, but won't have to pay them a salary. If they don't really like you, then 2 million rupiah per day for a BATS or CJs girl. I have never given any girl that much, but that is worst case scenario.
Irish Mongrel
06-10-19, 09:49
I have read on the forum that CJ'S and Bats is a good place to find Freelancers. I am going to Bali for a few days after I leave Jakarta. I am thinking of maybe taking a freelancer with me rather than hunting about in Bali. What's the daily rate for a freelancer if I pay all expenses like flights, hotels, food, drink and all entertainment costs.How much time have you got before you get to Jakarta? You coud always use Tinder as an initail means of finding girls and doing some culling before you hit Jakarta. Pay for a months memebership, set yourself up as in Jakarta and away you go. Find a couple of possible candidates, have a couple of "interview" sessions and take the one you like. Sounds rather crude and direct, but the girls on Tinder tend to be only after one thing as well. If your time is short be direct in your intro on Tinder, saying what you are after. You will still get hits. On the other hand you could set yourself up as being in Bali and use t to find girls there.
Blanquiceleste
06-10-19, 15:24
How much time have you got before you get to Jakarta? You coud always use Tinder as an initail means of finding girls and doing some culling before you hit Jakarta. Pay for a months memebership, set yourself up as in Jakarta and away you go. Find a couple of possible candidates, have a couple of "interview" sessions and take the one you like. Sounds rather crude and direct, but the girls on Tinder tend to be only after one thing as well. If your time is short be direct in your intro on Tinder, saying what you are after. You will still get hits. On the other hand you could set yourself up as being in Bali and use t to find girls there.I have always used Tinder or other similar dating apps only when I am in the city. From what I have heard, most of the girls who area clearly into it for the money, do not like waste time chit chatting with potential customers who may or may never show up. They don't like to be auditioned.
OTOH I believe websites like Indonesian Cupid might hold more promise for this MO.
Irish Mongrel
06-10-19, 16:36
I have always used Tinder or other similar dating apps only when I am in the city. From what I have heard, most of the girls who area clearly into it for the money, do not like waste time chit chatting with potential customers who may or may never show up. They don't like to be auditioned.
OTOH I believe websites like Indonesian Cupid might hold more promise for this MO.It's horses for courses. Yes there are girls in there that are purely in it for money and they are very easy to spot. There are also plenty of ladies who are just in it for a good time and something different from the normal hum drum life. Haven't been disappointed on what I have organised thru Tinder before arriving. Have stayed clear of the very obvious Bule only, $$ profiles. No talk of money but I do tend to give them a little on top of taxi money, that's me keeping it in the P4 P world in my brain. Have one regular who I will ship to KL if I visit there as the scene in KL has gone to the dogs in my opinion. Have also flown her down to Bali. Return tickets, food and a nice little dress and she's as happy as can be. She just fills here instagram page with pictures of herself sitting by swimming pools in far off places and her friends think she lives the life of a queen!
She just fills here instagram page with pictures of herself sitting by swimming pools in far off places and her friends think she lives the life of a queen!No pictures with you?
OnTheScene
06-11-19, 10:18
Aren't you only in Jakarta 3 days? You won't likely have time to find a girl to go to Bali with you in that short time frame. It's a big gamble taking a girl to Bali that you just met. Good point. I will go with Irish Mongrel suggestion and get on Tinder before the trip and do some homework.
How much time have you got before you get to Jakarta? You coud always use Tinder as an initail means of finding girls and doing some culling before you hit Jakarta. Great idea. I have got a few weeks before I leave.
Irish Mongrel
06-11-19, 12:06
No pictures with you?No, she's smart enough not to do that. Don't even think she knows I look at the Instagram Photos page. But at least she's consistent, about 5 years pictures and not a photo of a foreign guy, although has certainly been taken to various expensive places over the years, going by some of the pictures.
No, she's smart enough not to do that. Don't even think she knows I look at the Instagram Photos page. But at least she's consistent, about 5 years pictures and not a photo of a foreign guy, although has certainly been taken to various expensive places over the years, going by some of the pictures.Ya, my girls never post any photos of me on their instagram either. I think it's just an oversight on their part though. They wouldn't exclude the photos of me on purpose.
Ya, my girls never post any photos of me on their instagram either. I think it's just an oversight on their part though. They wouldn't exclude the photos of me on purpose.While I'm not opposed to girls sending me selfies in various states of undress, I've never been in to this. I'm struggling to think what positives can come from photos of me, surrouded by hookers and / or in a Asian girlie bar, circulating to everyone with a FB or Insta account. Some guys seem to love it though.
Another case of different guys liking different things.
Enjoy. G.
Same here. I always tell the girls no pictures of me at all, none of us together, and I retain the right to review pics on her phone before she goes. If she points the phone in my general direction and tries to take a snap she is gone.
Most are fine, as mentioned they usually only want pics of themselves in nice hotel rooms, pools. Places nicer than their kampung. When I see profiles of girls with lots photos of them in various hotel rooms / pools I know they are in the game and available for money.
While I'm not opposed to girls sending me selfies in various states of undress, I've never been in to this. I'm struggling to think what positives can come from photos of me, surrouded by hookers and / or in a Asian girlie bar, circulating to everyone with a FB or Insta account. Some guys seem to love it though.
Another case of different guys liking different things.
Enjoy. G.
Member #4698
06-14-19, 16:13
Some girls are initially reluctant to taking photos. They may first suggest selfies of the two of us together. When I agree to this request, using my phone, it always turns into a photo shoot of her solo.
Later after I have returned home, a girl may ask me to send a picture of myself. I usually do not respond and the request is dropped or forgotten. But if I know the girl a long time (years) then I have no problem with her having a my picture usually with her in a public place like a restaurant, shopping mall, or something.
A local Indo guy told me that the dancers at Malioboro are nude again, but that was obviously false. I went there last night and they were not even wearing bikinis, they were wearing body suits. None of them even showed their stomachs. The place had very few customers for a Friday night, and deservedly so.
It's horses for courses. Yes there are girls in there that are purely in it for money and they are very easy to spot. There are also plenty of ladies who are just in it for a good time and something different from the normal hum drum life. Haven't been disappointed on what I have organised thru Tinder before arriving. Have stayed clear of the very obvious Bule only, $$ profiles. No talk of money but I do tend to give them a little on top of taxi money, that's me keeping it in the P4 P world in my brain. Have one regular who I will ship to KL if I visit there as the scene in KL has gone to the dogs in my opinion. Have also flown her down to Bali. Return tickets, food and a nice little dress and she's as happy as can be. She just fills here instagram page with pictures of herself sitting by swimming pools in far off places and her friends think she lives the life of a queen!Well think of it this way, Bali is an absolute paradise compared to Jakarta. The only area in Jakarta in my opinion that has nice parks and grassed areas in Jakarta, is the area that Dufan fantasi is located in (I forget the name of the district) and on top of that, it's a gated community and you need to pay to get in! Bali has a lot more going on, and even the Indos of Jakarta think it's radically better to spend time than Jakarta. I don't think many Jakartans take many holidays either.
Gannaton48
06-17-19, 13:08
Hi! Never been in Jakarta but will go in some weeks. What is the price of a girl at l=places like Hotel Clasic, Travel or Alexis? How about BBBJ with these girls? Thanks for helping!
Hi! Never been in Jakarta but will go in some weeks. What is the price of a girl at l=places like Hotel Clasic, Travel or Alexis? How about BBBJ with these girls? Thanks for helping!Good question! I don't think I can recall the prices at Classic and Travel ever being asked and answered here. I'm looking forward to the answer.
I do know that Alexis closed over a year ago.
Good question! I don't think I can recall the prices at Classic and Travel ever being asked and answered here. I'm looking forward to the answer.
I do know that Alexis closed over a year ago.Classic and Travel prices are within the same range. At Classic, expect to pay around 450,000 IDR (this is not the exact amount, but fairly close).
If you are paying with a Credit card, a fee of 2 or 3% is added to the total amount.
There is no "official" policy regarding BBBJ. It depends on the girl. Some girls will refuse upfront. Others will negotiate the "Tip" with you.
You should ask the girl directly before you make your final selection. Sometimes, the Mamasan can help overcome the language barrier.
BKKguru
FlyingSparkz
06-18-19, 02:55
I know it is the norm to want to bang the young and the beautiful. I kind of like variety sometimes and like to bang a older beautiful woman.
I hear eastern promise is the place to find such girls. I would be grateful if anyone could confirm this with personal experience and if there are other places. Would be grateful for any inputs.
Thanks in advance.
BenderOver
06-18-19, 10:26
Had a little break last night and headed over to be Fashion Hotel at 9:30 PM for a little massage and hanky panky. Arrived and found a small lobby nicely done. Elevators to the 9th floor where the spa is. Noticed that there's a club on the 3rd floor and lots of sexily dressed girls around. Didn't get a chance to investigate if they were available or just there with their guy.
At the 9th floor, I was asked if I wanted a massage or freelance. For some dumb reason I thought she meant freelance massage wilhich I had never heard of before. So I said freelance. I get ushered into a large lounge much like travel hotel except theres only 20 girls there and nobody else. Wow, talk about being put on the spot.
Since my back and shoulders were really aching, I walked out and asked for the massage instead. I understood what freelance meant immediately and though the girls looked gorgeous, I decided to reserve that for another time. At the massage, I was asked to choose from who is available and wow none of the girls really did it for me. So massage Mama who was different from Lounge Mama recommended one who was just ending her shift. I agreed sight unseen and asked to go shower in the locker room. When I returned, I saw my girl and she looked great.
Now comes selecting the packages. Upfront ask on if I wanted make love or blowjob. Both I said. Make love is 420 k and blowjob is 330 k. Both is 750 k. Plus 320 k for massage. Total is 1,070,000. It's a little pricier than I anticipated but I'm there to check it out. OK.
Decent massage 45 minutes, flip, and the nipple kissing and LFK begins. She brought out the condom and I asked her to wait that until after my BBBJ. She said she never does a BBBJ. Ok. She puts on the cover and gives me a CBJ. I switch around in five minutes and start doing a very erotic DATY on her. She's loving it. Tasty DATY too. I'm going down all tongue everywhere and she's simply pure cream now. So hot. I put her into a 69 and had taken off the condom. She knows this. I've been just sending her to paradise for 15 minutes now and she's had enough. Grabs ahold of my bare dick and gobbles it down in the sweetest BBBJ. We please each other like this for another 5 minutes until she squeezes her legs together from her splayed open position and screams with my dick deep in her mouth.
I switch around and rub my cock bare on her pussy and she says condom while squirming away. We put the cover on and it's hanging for 25 minutes straight multiple positions. Seeing her pretty face and her sexy body in those erotic positions and moves was so perfect.
The phone rings and she's now telling me time is up. I pound hard for another 5 to 10 minutes until I unload. Shower, dress, and out. I hand her 200 k which she's happy with. I give Mama 50 k and I'm hoping I'm golden for next time.
All in all, this was an expensive fuck with massage. Maybe overpaid by 300 k but I got lucky that the provider was pretty, young, and had a fantastic body. Would love to try the freelance girls but all I was able to understand was 850 k. I don't know if that's all in or what and for how long. I also couldn't see all the beauties in the lounge but I remember many long slender bodies and big smiles.
A notch above Kota Indah in some ways. A notch below in some.
Anyone know if the club is like CJ's and the girls are available to go? Also, any stories worth telling about this joint from other hobbyists?
Bender.
Hi! Never been in Jakarta but will go in some weeks. What is the price of a girl at l=places like Hotel Clasic, Travel or Alexis? How about BBBJ with these girls? Thanks for helping!On another forum, a member was there last week and paid 350,000 idr for ST from the 5th floor. BBBJ was included, no mentioned of it being extra service. IDK, I'm reading different premium from all over the place. Travel being slightly less than Classic, especially for 2 ladies. I'll be there in 3 weeks, so we'll see.
Banana Boi
06-18-19, 17:36
I never really keep track of all the prices but I am certain that Classic and Travel as well as New Medika and every place in Kota Indah are all under 400k. I believe the highest is 380k but like I said the amount is so little I really don't keep track. If your budget is tighter there are areas like Ruko Robinson and the bars near the old Illigals like Berlian where pricing is 300k IIRC.
These prices apply to the regular bar girls, not the girls who are in the spa or freelancers. For instance, Classic spa girls are 800k IIRC and freelancers at Royal in Kota Indah are up to 1 million I believe. Most at the 600k to 800k range.
Now comes selecting the packages. Upfront ask on if I wanted make love or blowjob. Both I said. Make love is 420 k and blowjob is 330 k. Both is 750 k. Plus 320 k for massage. Total is 1,070,000. It's a little pricier than I anticipated but I'm there to check it out. OK.
Thanks for the review of B Fashion, 330k for a BJ seems a lot as an add on especially when the girl initially tries giving you BBBJ.
I never really keep track of all the prices but I am certain that Classic and Travel as well as New Medika and every place in Kota Indah are all under 400k. I believe the highest is 380k but like I said the amount is so little I really don't keep track. I don't know about that. I saw your Nanda chick at Starmoon the other day. She has lost her luster and looks tired now. Still has good tits for such a tiny body. Maybe it was just that day, but she looks 10 years older now. She has changed her number from 88 to "FL 59", so she is now a free lancer. That means she is no longer 380 K, she is 430 K after 8pm. I don't think there's much talent in Starmoon, so I didn't partake at all. I did see some good talent in Royal and Sariayu though. I loved the VIP room at Royal, damn nice. It's over 400 K for that room for sure, but I forget how much over 400. I hate the shitty cheaper rooms. If they don't have VIP in those Kota Indah bars, I don't even want to go upstairs. The rooms at MTR and LA are pathetic and Starmoon isn't much better. Royal and Sariayu rooms are nice.
Of course rooms at Hotel Classic and Hotel Travel are nicer and the same price as KI. I had a great chick at Classic the other day. I may marry her.
She has changed her number from 88 to "FL 59", so she is now a free lancer. That means she is no longer 380 K, she is 430 K after 8pm. Yep that $3 sure is a deal breaker. . . . LOL.
Reminds me of the time I stayed in Sengiggi, Lombok and the dive shop wanted to make sure I was good for the extra 15 k per day to take me to Gili vs the local dive sites.
Enjoy. G.
Yep that $3 sure is a deal breaker. . . . LOL.It's closer to $3.50
Then another 100k for tip! So total is now a whopping 530K!
Blanquiceleste
06-19-19, 02:02
I was in Jakarta for work last week and managed to get in a few days for the hobby. The trip reminds me why I love this city so much. In all over a 4 day period, I had 3 girls I met on Tinder visit me. 2 were free, while 1 was P4 P. I paid her 600 k for a 3 hour session with 2 pops. The free ones were remarkably better in every department. I went to Classic once and had an excellent session. My bill came to 485 K all inclusive for the girl, my beer and a drink for the girl. I gave the mami 20 k. I tipped the girl 50 k. I also went once to Sumo in Kelapa Gading, where after a very relaxing time at the spa I picked a massage girl in the 490 k category (there are 4 categories). Very tiny rooms, but great massage and decent sex. 50 k tip. I went to CJ's on 2 nights. Day 1 I picked a girl named Anita for 1. 6 mio. Day 2 I picked a girl named Lina for 1. 8 mio. I gave 200 k tip to both girls, since both of them did not rush and stayed well beyond noon the following day. Both had cracking bodies, loved sex, gave good BBBJs, had great friendly attitudes and never once haggled about money.
I was staying at Rasuna Said, which made travel to Classic and Kelapa Gading a bit of a chore, but for everything else it was perfect.
I went to Classic once and had an excellent session. I gave the mami 20 k. I tipped the girl 50 k. I never give the mamasan any tip in Hotel Classic. The mamasans there are crap. The mamasans already get a good cut of the girl's money for doing nothing. Since you say it was an excellent session, the normal tip for those girls is 100 K. Even the locals give that much.
I went to CJ's on 2 nights. Day 1 I picked a girl named Anita for 1.6 mio. Day 2 I picked a girl named Lina for 1.8 mio. You had better luck than me. I went to CJs the other night and it was absolutely packed. Lots of attractive girls, but way too many guys there that night. I found the best looking girl in the place and was chatting with her. Her English was amazingly good. When it came time to go home, I asked her if she wanted to go home with me and she asked how much I was going to pay her. As we negotiated back and forth, she would not go below 2 million. There was no way I was going to pay 2 million rupiah because I have never paid that much, so I let her go. 30 seconds after I left her, another guy approached her and they left together 10 minutes later. Obviously someone is willing to pay 2 million. Sadly. So I went on the search again and found a less attractive girl (they were all less attractive than the first girl), but she was still pretty hot. She had a great attitude and was willing to go home with me for 1.3 million. However, when we got to my place she said she was too tired for sex since she had too much to drink. She claimed she had gone there with friends for a party and had a lot to drink before she met me. She wanted to sleep first and have sex in the morning. Screw that. I threw her out. I like to have sex, then sleep alone. I am not a sleep first together with a stranger then have sex in the morning type of guy. I've never been into morning sex. Their makeup has worn off and it's just not as hot.
I'm still glad I didn't give that hot girl 2 million. Point of principle. That's too much money to be giving these girls. Hell, that's $150 usd. And I did have fun that night even though I didn't have sex.
CzarNicholas
06-19-19, 05:09
You had better luck than me. I went to CJs the other night and it was absolutely packed. Lots of attractive girls, but way too many guys there that night. I found the best looking girl in the place and was chatting with her. Her English was amazingly good. When it came time to go home, I asked her if she wanted to go home with me and she asked how much I was going to pay her. As we negotiated back and forth, she would not go below 2 million. There was no way I was going to pay 2 million rupiah because I have never paid that much, so I let her go. 30 seconds after I left her, another guy approached her and they left together 10 minutes later. Obviously someone is willing to pay 2 million. Sadly. So I went on the search again and found a less attractive girl (they were all less attractive than the first girl), but she was still pretty hot. She had a great attitude and was willing to go home with me for 1.3 million. However, when we got to my place she said she was too tired for sex since she had too much to drink. She claimed she had gone there with friends for a party and had a lot to drink before she met me. She wanted to sleep first and have sex in the morning. Screw that. I threw her out. I like to have sex, then sleep alone. I am not a sleep first together with a stranger then have sex in the morning type of guy. I've never been into morning sex. Their makeup has worn off and it's just not as hot.
I'm still glad I didn't give that hot girl 2 million. Point of principle. That's too much money to be giving these girls. Hell, that's $150 usd. And I did have fun that night even though I didn't have sex.I rather walk away any day, its not like you've never fucked a cute hooker before and won't ever again, I know you know that.
I believe in holding my head up high, I could have a large amount of cash on me which I sometimes do, at least at the beginning of a mongering trip (it could be $5000-$10000).
And I'm still not paying $1 usd over what I think is my maximum price in whatever given venue I'm in, self respect will allow me to sleep better, overpaying for a 3rd world hooker will make me feel like a fucking chump!!
Where's the fun in that.
So $150 in Jakarta? LOL that sounds crazy? To even ask those prices I hope she was a 10 and was offering PSE include anal.
I thought Jakarta was a bargain? I wouldn't pay $150 in bkk for the hottest girl in any bar or thermae, unless she wants to stay in my room for a couple days to earn that LOL.
Banana Boi
06-19-19, 18:24
I saw your Nanda chick at Starmoon the other day. She has lost her luster and looks tired now. Still has good tits for such a tiny body. Maybe it was just that day, but she looks 10 years older now. She has changed her number from 88 to "FL 59", so she is now a free lancer. That means she is no longer 380 K, she is 430 K after 8pm. I don't think there's much talent in Starmoon, so I didn't partake at all. I did see some good talent in Royal and Sariayu though. I loved the VIP room at Royal, damn nice. It's over 400 K for that room for sure, but I forget how much over 400. I hate the shitty cheaper rooms. If they don't have VIP in those Kota Indah bars, I don't even want to go upstairs. The rooms at MTR and LA are pathetic and Starmoon isn't much better. Royal and Sariayu rooms are nice.
I dumped Nanda last Fall. Well actually she dumped me after seeing me go with another girl. She got extremely jealous. Good for her to now be a 430 k FL. Hope she gets at least 10 k more in her cut for that. Service wise she deserves the higher rate. Given the lack of talent at Starmoon lately she is still arguably the best girl there combining looks and service.
I have been in the Royal VIP room. My FL costed 600 k.
I dumped Nanda last Fall. Well actually she dumped me after seeing me go with another girl. She got extremely jealous. Good for her to now be a 430 k FL. Hope she gets at least 10 k more in her cut for that. Service wise she deserves the higher rate. Given the lack of talent at Starmoon lately she is still arguably the best girl there combining looks and service.She's a decent actress. She has the fake moans mastered. I only went with her once, but I thought she was good. I wouldn't repeat with her because she's too damn skinny and the skin on her butt is so dark it's a bit of a turn off during doggy.
She's definitely not as good looking as before.
I've had plenty of girls refuse to go with me anymore after I took another girl when they thought I was only interested in them. It's disappointing at first, but works out better in the long run.
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