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Onojdi
08-11-19, 06:01
Smoothy, you are the ultimate Jakarta mongering encyclopedia, thanks for all the tips. For my upcoming visit in Jakarta I already have like 10 to visit places, most of them based on your recommendation or reviews. It will be a real pleasure to pay my respect on a beer or two when I arrive.

About the'Heaven. I'm thinking to visit this place for an afternoon lazy spa & sex experience, but are they working between 13:00 - 16:00. The idea is to avoid the 5 pm crowd as you suggested but based on my experience usually there are not a lot of working girls during that period. Maybe the working time frame at the spa will be different. The plan is wake up, drink coffee, breakfast, spa at the'Heaven, afternoon laziness recharging and a night with a semi pro from badoo or tinder kind of day. Final question. How much will cost that the'Heaven experience with sauna, massage, sex all inclusive package? Do they have different options or it is one price and it's up to you will you use the facility or just go directly to the room with the girl?

Smoothy
08-11-19, 06:18
Smoothy, you are the ultimate Jakarta mongering encyclopedia, thanks for all the tips. For my upcoming visit in Jakarta I already have like 10 to visit places, most of them based on your recommendation or reviews. It will be a real pleasure to pay my respect on a beer or two when I arrive.

About the'Heaven. I'm thinking to visit this place for an afternoon lazy spa & sex experience, but are they working between 13:00 - 16:00. The idea is to avoid the 5 pm crowd as you suggested but based on my experience usually there are not a lot of working girls during that period. Maybe the working time frame at the spa will be different. The plan is wake up, drink coffee, breakfast, spa at the'Heaven, afternoon laziness recharging and a night with a semi pro from badoo or tinder kind of day. Final question. How much will cost that the'Heaven experience with sauna, massage, sex all inclusive package? Do they have different options or it is one price and it's up to you will you use the facility or just go directly to the room with the girl?All of the girls should be there by 11 am when they open. They close at 11 pm if I am not mistaken. When you talk to the girls working the front desk, they will ask you what you want, make it clear you want the full package including sex. They will tell you the rate and you don't have to negotiate anything with the girl in the room. I prefer the VIP room since it's not all that much more money. As much as I love the spas, I have other commitments so I don't get to those places much these days, so I am not sure of the current price. My guess would be around or just under 1 million all in.

A place like Emporivm is nicer and will likely have hotter girls too, but will be more expensive. I recommend trying both.

Onojdi
08-11-19, 06:43
I think I will follow your advice and will try both. Sounds promising. About the sauna / spa. Are you alone with the chosen girl or it is like normal sauna with the visitors of the establishment just relaxing before meeting the girls?

Smoothy
08-11-19, 06:48
I think I will follow your advice and will try both. Sounds promising. About the sauna / spa. Are you alone with the chosen girl or it is like normal sauna with the visitors of the establishment just relaxing before meeting the girls?You are alone in the sauna. And whacking off in the sauna and jacuzzi area is frowned upon. I think maybe 1001 may have girls in the sauna with you. Same with Sumo.

I'm a bad one to ask about girls in the sauna because even when it's available, i refuse it. I never liked having the girls in the sauna with me at Alexis. All they do is worry about messing up their makeup.

MasBule
08-11-19, 07:41
Decided to check out the some train track action.

Arrived around 7 pm, place was busy and pumping full of girls, pimps, premen and horny guys looking for a cheap quickie. I think it was also busy because many places were closed due to the cow killing ceremony on Sunday. Walked and sat, chatted with many cewek, the price was either a red and blue or two red, didn't seem any real logic behind it, some cute girls were a red and blue, some ugly ones were two red. Anyway, didn't partake as I was on a sure-thing later in the evening.

So today, I went for a stroll to get a better look in the daytime around midday, thankfully no duff duff music and chain smoking preman. Maybe 10 girls sitting outside their digs canvassing their wares.

Considering it was the second holiest day of the year and it was before midday, I was surprised to find any offer of a quickie. As one not to pass an opportunity, I decided to partake.

The SOP stands as, girls sitting on makeshift stools, in front of their digs. They live upstairs and the short time rooms are bottom floor. I could touch the walls inside the room, and there is a bed and bin in the corner. Instructed to wash the old fella in a communal bucket located fairly in the open outside the room, before entering the love nest. Girl undresses quickly, sucks on the old fella uncovered, asks if I want a condom for the main event, presumably its an option, which I partake and she lies down with legs spread. Actually a nice round body with a decent set of boobs, little bit of pubic hair, 31 yrs old from Java Tengah - alot more choice of girls int he evening of course. No lube, so reasonably tight and gave some fairly convincing moans. Tried some naked shoots but she wouldn't let me.

Jobs done, wet whipes at hand to clean up the old fella, then a kiss goodbye and walk the 4 steps back into the maze of laneways with many other places just like this one.

All in all, as good a session as one would get elsewhere, but just in a dodgy area with dodgy rooms. Girls live above the fuk rooms and are of course a little older and more experienced thhan at classic but there are still some ones. If you are happy to be the centre of attention, be corralled into different venues, drink warm panthers amongst chain smoking locals, screw in rooms with dodgy doors then this place is for you. I love the seediness of places like this, its real and its local rarely sees foreigners as you get treated well. A mini Kalijodo, without the organization.

Once again Jakarta surprises a session before midday, $15, and on a holy day when every other brothel in town is closed.

Location is a short west walk from Kota Tua square, train lane is a small street one street away from jl Bebek Selatan, get to Jl Bebek and follows the duff duff sounds PM me if you can't find it.

Pic in room with girl, Karoake place next door not open daytime.

Irish Mongrel
08-11-19, 09:41
Your "freebie" paid for her own food and drink? That's pretty good you found a girl who cost you nothing. Sometimes I find those as well. A few times I met girls who pay my way for dinner and movies then screw my brains out. But freebies are not the norm in Jakarta. I actually prefer it to be a business transaction. It's normally cheaper both monetarily and emotionally in the long run than the "freebies".

Satu Lagi sucks. So does Hotel Kristal. Terrible location for anything fun. Satu Lagi was pretty good 20 years ago on Wednesday nights.Is that a big splash from the sarcasm hitting the floor? .

Smoothy
08-11-19, 10:07
Is that a big splash from the sarcasm hitting the floor? .No, I really do think Satu lagi and hotel Kristal do suck these days and Satu lagi was pretty damn good 20 years ago. Thats a fact.

Kristal is ok if you don't care about getting any action.

JamesXFisher
08-11-19, 22:27
Decided to check out the some train track action.

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Location is a short west walk from Kota Tua square, train lane is a small street one street away from jl Bebek Selatan, get to Jl Bebek and follows the duff duff sounds PM me if you can't find it.Sorry to be hopeless, but I can't work out where you mean.

Back in Jakarta on Sat and would like to go exploring. Like the seedier places so if there are any more clues you could share that would be great!

(Not a paid member yet, so no PM for me).

Thanks.

Smoothy
08-12-19, 00:41
Pic in room with girl, Karoake place next door not open daytime.Nice find. I'm going to have to try that karaoke. I like to live on the edge.

Goferring
08-12-19, 00:59
Nice find. I'm going to have to try that karaoke. I like to live on the edge.Let us know how you go. I get the feeling that its name may be false advertising. 😁.

MasBule
08-12-19, 01:39
Let us know how you go. I get the feeling that its name may be false advertising. 😁.Hahahha, yes a misnomer me thinks too.

MasBule
08-12-19, 01:50
Sorry to be hopeless, but I can't work out where you mean.

Back in Jakarta on Sat and would like to go exploring. Like the seedier places so if there are any more clues you could share that would be great!

(Not a paid member yet, so no PM for me).

Thanks.Find tugu Pekojan. Head directly north on that road, walking left side of the road, turn left after rail line but before toll road, duck into laneway that follows the railine.

Smoothy
08-12-19, 01:56
Let us know how you go. I get the feeling that its name may be false advertising. 😁.Sekar Wangi. Now that's funny. I hadn't noticed the name. However, judging from the look of that sign, that sign may be 100 years old. It may have been true when the sign was first hung.

I'll have to visit. It's hard to pass up an adventure like that. Maybe next weekend I should go to CJs and pull a girl from there then bring her to Sekar wangi for some karoake.

Realizer
08-12-19, 17:05
Arrived today, ordered a massage girl (outcall). Massage was not relevant, but a pretty girl in the age of 25. Body and face 8/10. Very good attitude, nice FS. Damage is 1.3 kIDR, certainly too much but all in all it was a nice experience.

Tomorrow I will go to CJ's. Let's see.

JamesXFisher
08-12-19, 21:57
Arrived today, ordered a massage girl (outcall). Massage was not relevant, but a pretty girl in the age of 25. Body and face 8/10. Very good attitude, nice FS. Damage is 1.3 kIDR, certainly too much but all in all it was a nice experience.

Tomorrow I will go to CJ's. Let's see.If you paid 1.3 k rupiah, you got a bargain.

1.3 m, not so much.

Realizer
08-13-19, 03:50
If you paid 1.3 k rupiah, you got a bargain.

1.3 m, not so much.Sorry, 1.3 mill rupiah is correct.

Acejack
08-13-19, 05:43
Is it just me or has the quality of women on this site taken a dive? It has been a few years since I have been to Indonesia and I was with due diligence doing my early recon work. All I can find on IC is ugly pigs who are expecting men younger than themselves to be interested in their fat ugly photos. I love Jakarta and have had some real success there in the past. Please tell me Jakarta is still as good as it was.

Smoothy
08-13-19, 06:06
Arrived today, ordered a massage girl (outcall). Massage was not relevant, but a pretty girl in the age of 25. Body and face 8/10. Very good attitude, nice FS. Damage is 1.3 kIDR, certainly too much but all in all it was a nice experience.You did better than me last night. My normal massage girls were not answering me at 4 am (I am sure sleeping), so I got on Tinder. This Mita girl matched on tinder and said "massage only" for 300 k. I told her fine. I didn't find her all that hot, but she was ok and I only wanted a massage anyway. I've had some great massages from some nice girls over the years from Tinder and Wechat. However, the scrag that showed up was about the most hideous thing I had ever seen. And sadly, it was the exact same scrag that had shown up a different time with a different girl's foto on Tinder a couple of years ago. I'm sorry, but I don't even want a "massage only' from an old woman showing up when the photo displayed was a young attractive girl. Talk about false advertising. It was obviously some dude sending scrags and just using that photo for bait. Bottom line is you have to video chat with the girls and verify the girl who comes is going to be the girl in the photo. (this photo below is the actual tinder bait photo, but the one on the right is not the actual woman that showed up, but a pretty close likeness)

As far as the dating sites like Indo cupid and DIA, they were great in the past but are worthless these days. All the girls use Tinder now.

Pedros Needs
08-13-19, 14:26
You did better than me last night. My normal massage girls were not answering me at 4 am (I am sure sleeping), so I got on Tinder. This Mita girl matched on tinder and said "massage only" for 300 k. I told her fine. I didn't find her all that hot, but she was ok and I only wanted a massage anyway. I've had some great massages from some nice girls over the years from Tinder and Wechat. However, the scrag that showed up was about the most hideous thing I had ever seen. And sadly, it was the exact same scrag that had shown up a different time with a different girl's foto on Tinder a couple of years ago. I'm sorry, but I don't even want a "massage only' from an old woman showing up when the photo displayed was a young attractive girl. Talk about false advertising. It was obviously some dude sending scrags and just using that photo for bait. Bottom line is you have to video chat with the girls and verify the girl who comes is going to be the girl in the photo. (this photo below is the actual tinder bait photo, but the one on the right is not the actual woman that showed up, but a pretty close likeness)

As far as the dating sites like Indo cupid and DIA, they were great in the past but are worthless these days. All the girls use Tinder now.On many occasions when I last visited I had a number of girls pitch 300 for a 60 even a 90 minute massage.

Felt certain that is the bate to have you book, then when you are all horned up is when the negotiations will start. Did a deal with a looker in one situation and had FS for 600 was great value, I repeated and will again on my return.

Be a dreadful shock to have someone turn up that didn't resemble what was in the pic, but then again one should never be surprised.

My thought is to be wary of the 300 massage offer as so many are using that approach.

Pedro.

CzarNicholas
08-13-19, 18:35
Looking to make a 1st time visit for a 2-4 weeks?

Can anyone say the best time of any these months?

Late October? November? December? Jan? Feb? March?

Many thanks.

Goferring
08-14-19, 00:40
Looking to make a 1st time visit for a 2-4 weeks?

Can anyone say the best time of any these months?

Late October? November? December? Jan? Feb? March?

Many thanks.The period leading upto and just after New Year is the traditional wet season. No need to be alarmist but historically there have also been some pretty major floods in Jan and Feb. These are unlikely to directly affect a foreigner staying in better areas and hotels but mobility around the city can be drastically affected and girls may not be able to get into the city.

March and early April would see lots of girls on the hunt for cash prior to going home for Ramadan in late April. This might also be a period of expensive college exams but others could comment better on this.

Enjoy. G.

Kerrstar
08-14-19, 06:29
The period leading upto and just after New Year is the traditional wet season. No need to be alarmist but historically there have also been some pretty major floods in Jan and Feb. These are unlikely to directly affect a foreigner staying in better areas and hotels but mobility around the city can be drastically affected and girls may not be able to get into the city.Not just the girls getting into the city but you also need to get to places. I was there one time and was going to Eastern Promise. Got to the street and it was bloocked, the whole street was completed flooded. Couldn't even get to the bar. Drainage in Jakarta is non-existant so even if it hasn't rained for a few hours the streets can still be flooded. It will be interesting to see how the new metro goes, will the stations flood?

Smoothy
08-14-19, 07:33
Not just the girls getting into the city but you also need to get to places. I was there one time and was going to Eastern Promise. Got to the street and it was bloocked, the whole street was completed flooded. Couldn't even get to the bar. Drainage in Jakarta is non-existant so even if it hasn't rained for a few hours the streets can still be flooded. It will be interesting to see how the new metro goes, will the stations flood?The flooding only happens in certain areas. I don't think the Metro has been built in a flood area yet. I would think it will be fine. Then again, it doesn't really go anywhere useful anyway yet. If you want to go from Plaze Indonesia to Plaza Senayan, you are fine. Other than that, forget it.

Kelapa Gading completely shuts down during the floods.

You can't predict the floods. I wouldn't even worry about what time of year to come to Jakarta. Just avoid Ramadan.

Leedashone
08-14-19, 17:41
Looking to make a 1st time visit for a 2-4 weeks?
Can anyone say the best time of any these months?
Late October? November? December? Jan? Feb? March?
Many thanks.Don't go there in Muslim month of fasting.

That's 30 days, start at:

2019/5/6 2020/4/24 2021/4/13 2022/4/3.

2023/3/23 2024/3/11 2025/3/1 2026/2/18.

2027/2/8 2028/1/28 2029/1/16 2030/1/6.

2031/1/4 2032/1/8 2033/3/1 2034/1/12.

2035/1/4 2036/3/2 2037/2/1 2038/4/1.

DelBosque
08-14-19, 21:30
Sekar Wangi. Now that's funny. I hadn't noticed the name. However, judging from the look of that sign, that sign may be 100 years old. It may have been true when the sign was first hung.

I'll have to visit. It's hard to pass up an adventure like that. Maybe next weekend I should go to CJs and pull a girl from there then bring her to Sekar wangi for some karoake.I was looking on Google Maps, but with the given location info from 'MasBule', I was not able to find the area.

I count on you 'SMOOTHY', the JK informer sinds years, to give us a clear route discription of the Train Track location.

My next visit to JK is in November. Thanks.

Goferring
08-15-19, 00:34
I was looking on Google Maps, but with the given location info from 'MasBule', I was not able to find the area.

I count on you 'SMOOTHY', the JK informer sinds years, to give us a clear route discription of the Train Track location.

My next visit to JK is in November. Thanks.Tugu is "Monument".

Blanquiceleste
08-15-19, 00:57
You are alone in the sauna. And whacking off in the sauna and jacuzzi area is frowned upon. I think maybe 1001 may have girls in the sauna with you. Same with Sumo.

I'm a bad one to ask about girls in the sauna because even when it's available, i refuse it. I never liked having the girls in the sauna with me at Alexis. All they do is worry about messing up their makeup.Sumo does not allow the girls to be brought into the pool / sauna.

Smoothy
08-15-19, 13:20
Arrived today, ordered a massage girl (outcall). Massage was not relevant, but a pretty girl in the age of 25. Body and face 8/10. Very good attitude, nice FS. Damage is 1.3 kIDR, certainly too much but all in all it was a nice experience.

Tomorrow I will go to CJ's. Let's see.Did you find anything at CJ's? Any photos of the massage girl or cjs girl?

JohnGaltin
08-16-19, 19:18
I visited Bali and Jogja in April this year. Had a wonderful time in Bali. A cute date through tinder and excellent massages at Body Arum. The massage at Body Arum was happy throughout instead of a happy ending. The masseuse keeps on fondling and one is hard the entire 90 minutes. I never had such erotic massage anywhere including in Thailand. I am planning to go to Jakarta later in October. Are there similar massage places in Jakarta? Any recommendation?

Ceegee
08-17-19, 00:23
I visited Bali and Jogja in April this year. Had a wonderful time in Bali. A cute date through tinder and excellent massages at Body Arum. The massage at Body Arum was happy throughout instead of a happy ending. The masseuse keeps on fondling and one is hard the entire 90 minutes. I never had such erotic massage anywhere including in Thailand. I am planning to go to Jakarta later in October. Are there similar massage places in Jakarta? Any recommendation?Where was the Body Arum you went to in Bali? I believe there are more than one of them.

There are endless good massage places in Jakarta. I believe Smoothy posted a list of many recently, go back a page or two and you will find it.

JamesXFisher
08-17-19, 13:45
Tugu is "Monument".Thanks to all who gave pointers. I will be checking it out next Sunday morning (just over a week away). Will report back if anything interesting occurs.

Pedros Needs
08-17-19, 14:07
Where was the Body Arum you went to in Bali? I believe there are more than one of them.

There are endless good massage places in Jakarta. I believe Smoothy posted a list of many recently, go back a page or two and you will find it.Tried one by that name in Bali assuming the same on the left side heading to the airport.

Was told not on offer so I didn't stay although I though I have heard more is on offer there.

Pedro.

Papae Noel
08-17-19, 16:43
JohnGaltin,

Glad that you posted this Bali report in the Jakarta section, because I never bother looking in the Bali section. But after reading about this massage in Bali, I need to start researching the Bali forum. Your massage sounds fantastic. Do you think she was just hoping for an up sell of services, or she just really wanted to give you a super erotic massage (hoping for a good tip).

I read elsewhere that any noises would be heard from the massage cubicles, so, no extra services at Body Arum.

Smoothy
08-18-19, 04:26
What the hell is up with these girls in CJ's trying to order Macallan when you ask them if they want a drink? That crap is 400k (about 30 USD) a glass. When they order for themselves, they order the cheapest drink possible. When they have you paying, they want Macallan. I had three different girls the other night try to order that. Why is that popular all of a sudden? In 20 years going there, I never had a girl ask for that. But the other night, all 3 girls I talked with tried to order it. Is this some kind of a scam where CJs is asking the girls to order that? I also had a girl demand 300 usd ST. She was smoking hot, but come on. I certainly hope nobody is actually giving these girls that much. Suffice it to say, our conversation ended there. I did not see her spending any long amount of time talking with any guy even though she was the hottest girl in the bar, so hopefully she went home empty handed.

On a better note, I went to Blok M Friday night and I was surprised that it was not bad. D's place was pretty packed. Of course the dancers at D's are nowhere near as hot as the ones at Malio, but they wear sexier outfits at D's than at Malio these days. Even though they are not as hot as the dancers at Malio, I still enjoy watching the girls wearing those skirts that don't cover their asses at all and wearing g-strings on the dance stage. My Bar had a live band until like midnight or 1 am. Due to that live band, the place had a vibe similar to the old Top Gun. My Bar was not crowded though unfortunately. I think not many people know they now have a live band like Top Gun used to have. I think they only have the band on weekends. There were still a few pretty nice girls in there. I ended up pulling a 22 year old from My Bar. Much cheaper than going to BATS or CJs. Attached here is a pic of the girl from My Bar.

Party Nator
08-18-19, 05:40
On a better note, I went to Blok M Friday night and I was surprised that it was not bad. D's place was pretty packed. Of course the dancers at D's are nowhere near as hot as the ones at Malio, but they wear sexier outfits at D's than at Malio these days. Even though they are not as hot as the dancers at Malio, I still enjoy watching the girls wearing those skirts that don't cover their asses at all and wearing g-strings on the dance stage. My Bar had a live band until like midnight or 1 am. Due to that live band, the place had a vibe similar to the old Top Gun. My Bar was not crowded though unfortunately. I think not many people know they now have a live band like Top Gun used to have. I think they only have the band on weekends. There were still a few pretty nice girls in there. I ended up pulling a 22 year old from My Bar. Much cheaper than going to BATS or CJs. Attached here is a pic of the girl from My Bar.Hi Smoothy,

If you don't mind me asking what was the price of the 22 year from MyBar?

Goferring
08-18-19, 06:35
What the hell is up with these girls in CJ's trying to order Macallan when you ask them if they want a drink? That crap is 400k (about 30 USD) a glass. When they order for themselves, they order the cheapest drink possible. When they have you paying, they want Macallan.Just dock their pay in the morning. I've never done it but know a couple of guys that say they have. The girls soon learn and it would be priceless to see their face. 😁.

Smoothy
08-18-19, 06:38
Just dock their pay in the morning. I've never done it but know a couple of guys that say they have. The girls soon learn and it would be priceless to see their face. 😁.Knight1001 told me he has done that. It's not a bad idea.

Ceegee
08-18-19, 06:59
Nice find in My Bar. What was her opening price? Glad there is still some life in the blok, I went to CJs a couple of years ago and hated it compared to when I used to go there regularly a decade ago.

CJs must be offering some kind of kick back to the girls who get guys to buy Macallan for them. They would have no idea what it tastes like and probably would not even drink it.


What the hell is up with these girls in CJ's trying to order Macallan when you ask them if they want a drink? That crap is 400k (about 30 USD) a glass. When they order for themselves, they order the cheapest drink possible. When they have you paying, they want Macallan. I had three different girls the other night try to order that. Why is that popular all of a sudden? In 20 years going there, I never had a girl ask for that. But the other night, all 3 girls I talked with tried to order it. Is this some kind of a scam where CJs is asking the girls to order that? I also had a girl demand 300 usd ST. She was smoking hot, but come on. I certainly hope nobody is actually giving these girls that much. Suffice it to say, our conversation ended there. I did not see her spending any long amount of time talking with any guy even though she was the hottest girl in the bar, so hopefully she went home empty handed.

On a better note, I went to Blok M Friday night and I was surprised that it was not bad. D's place was pretty packed. Of course the dancers at D's are nowhere near as hot as the ones at Malio, but they wear sexier outfits at D's than at Malio these days. Even though they are not as hot as the dancers at Malio, I still enjoy watching the girls wearing those skirts that don't cover their asses at all and wearing g-strings on the dance stage. My Bar had a live band until like midnight or 1 am. Due to that live band, the place had a vibe similar to the old Top Gun. My Bar was not crowded though unfortunately. I think not many people know they now have a live band like Top Gun used to have. I think they only have the band on weekends. There were still a few pretty nice girls in there. I ended up pulling a 22 year old from My Bar. Much cheaper than going to BATS or CJs. Attached here is a pic of the girl from My Bar.

Marky1
08-18-19, 07:20
CJs must be offering some kind of kick back to the girls who get guys to buy Macallan for them. They would have no idea what it tastes like and probably would not even drink it.Exactly. They wouldn't know the difference between Macallan and rotgut.

Smoothy
08-18-19, 09:16
Nice find in My Bar. What was her opening price? Started with 1 million, was fine with 700 k.

Aleandros
08-18-19, 11:18
I think when the girl ask 3 jt in cj is simply bcs they not need money and already have enough maybe bcs just back from Singapore and already planned to go there again.

You can find the same girl in different period of the year get her price down to 1.5 jt if she desperate need buy ticket for SG.

Menteng
08-18-19, 11:36
What the hell is up with these girls in CJ's trying to order Macallan when you ask them if they want a drink? That crap is 400k (about 30 USD) a glass. When they order for themselves, they order the cheapest drink possible. When they have you paying, they want Macallan. What happened to the Long Island Tea? 😒.

Maybe they go for the most expensive. I remember, a girl ordered the most expensive dish in a restaurant we were. When the dish came she looked puzzled and after two bites she said she didn't like it. She didn't know the dish.

Another trick was, that they order more than they can handle and ask for a doggy bag after the meal. That's when I started to tell them that they can order anything they want, but they have to finish that in the restaurant.

Offshore Swell
08-18-19, 13:06
OS spent a lovely night recently at this and Jakarta honeypot. Getting there about 7 PM, there was plenty of talent lined up on the benches. The Mamas can be a little lazy at this place but OS soon had a compliant mama. What followed was a pipeline of young, sensuous poontang. OS just lets his guard down and so do the girls. Nice, friendly and most importantly, sans condom. A night to savour. OS is a big fan of Kelapa Gading. Good food, superb coffee at 6 ounces and some seriously good fun. Just next to Kings Cross is MTR2 , Sumo and some other massage joints. It's good.

Hope that helps.

OS.

Aleandros
08-18-19, 13:07
The behavior of the CJ girls goes according to their need for money (when they have them they always want more and when they are without them they would do anything to have even 300 k stunner included) if a girl can afford a bottle or work in Singapore more often, she will ask for high prices and expensive spirits but when the same girl loses the possibility of buying bottles (no boy sends their money regularly or unable to travel to Singapore).

You will find these stunners entering the bar with some friends who pay beer for them and will ask 1 jt up to 700 k always a lot of hard time to kick in the morning probably talking about all the problem of his life crying.

Smoothy
08-18-19, 14:18
What happened to the Long Island Tea?That drink, the Illusion, and wine have been their go-to drinks ever since I can remember. This macallan thing just happened the other night. It has to be a CJs management scam. Similar to their bullshit scams of forcing you to buy a way overpriced chocolate or cookie (that nobody wants) along with the entry drink on special event nights. They had tiny cookies shaped like indonesian flags the other night for indonesian independence day. Mandatory that you buy one for 60 k and also another 180k (minimum) for entry drink in order to enter. I pay an extra 40k to get a Long Island Iced Tea rather than the 180 for a beer.

Shangri-La is much better than Mulia when it comes to not having scams like that. Since it also appears the Mulia management is involving the girls in their scams, that is sickening. I noticed a CJs manager came over and said something to one of the girls I was with just before she ordered that drink.

DelBosque
08-18-19, 22:30
On a better note, I went to Blok M Friday night and I was surprised that it was not bad. D's place was pretty packed. Of course the dancers at D's are nowhere near as hot as the ones at Malio, but they wear sexier outfits at D's than at Malio these days. Even though they are not as hot as the dancers at Malio, I still enjoy watching the girls wearing those skirts that don't cover their asses at all and wearing g-strings on the dance stage. My Bar had a live band until like midnight or 1 am. Due to that live band, the place had a vibe similar to the old Top Gun. My Bar was not crowded though unfortunately. I think not many people know they now have a live band like Top Gun used to have. I think they only have the band on weekends. There were still a few pretty nice girls in there. I ended up pulling a 22 year old from My Bar. Much cheaper than going to BATS or CJs. Attached here is a pic of the girl from My Bar.Thanks for the fine report Smoothy, I'm glad to see that Blok M is still alive. In JK I Always stay near Blok M. As I come back next November, I look in the next days to book again a room in the area.

MasBule
08-19-19, 15:47
Thanks to all who gave pointers. I will be checking it out next Sunday morning (just over a week away). Will report back if anything interesting occurs.Don't go expecting too much action before midday on a Sunday.

Like I said there were 10 girls at best at that time, most you wouldn't. If you wait until 7 pm, they will be in the hundreds, and many you would.

If your worried about it being dark and scary, then go at 5 or 6 pm, when its still light and when the married locals go after work.

DelBosque
08-19-19, 17:43
Don't go expecting too much action before midday on a Sunday.

Like I said there were 10 girls at best at that time, most you wouldnt. If you wait until 7 pm, they will be in the hundreds, and many you would.

If your worried about it being dark and scary, then go at 5 or 6 pm, when its still light and when the married locals go after work.How to find this action area MasBule, starting from Pekojan Monument?

Smoothy
08-20-19, 05:10
I think when the girl ask 3 jt in cj is simply bcs they not need money and already have enough maybe bcs just back from Singapore and already planned to go there again.

You can find the same girl in different period of the year get her price down to 1.5 jt if she desperate need buy ticket for SG.Good point. I bet that was the case. I had never seen this girl before, but she was damn good looking and spoke Perfect English. She didn't just ask for 3 jt, she asked for 300 USD. But they do get even more than that in Singapore, so maybe she thought she was giving me a bargain price.

Aleandros
08-20-19, 07:35
Good point. I bet that was the case. I had never seen this girl before, but she was damn good looking and spoke Perfect English. She didn't just ask for 3 jt, she asked for 300 USD. But they do get even more than that in Singapore, so maybe she thought she was giving me a bargain price.I can bet she blod slim yaa many like this lately pure psycho.

Bkk212
08-21-19, 10:06
Just dock their pay in the morning. I've never done it but know a couple of guys that say they have. The girls soon learn and it would be priceless to see their face. 😁.Sometimes what I do is give them enough for a drink and tell them to order what they want, usually they will stick to the cheaper drink.

Bkk212
08-21-19, 10:08
Thanks for the fine report Smoothy, I'm glad to see that Blok M is still alive. In JK I Always stay near Blok M. As I come back next November, I look in the next days to book again a room in the area.Yes I have always reported that there are some gems in My Bar just have to be patient and wait for them to appear. Usually not on the weekend. But there are always someone interesting to be found.

I can't wait to return in December.

MasBule
08-21-19, 14:38
How to find this action area MasBule, starting from Pekojan Monument?If your a pictures kinda guy. Then Goferrings map, posted 1 page ago is perfect.

But if words are more your style, just walk north of 'tugu Pekojan' 550 mtrs, turn left into Jl Rawa Bebek Selatan (street) and go immediately into first alley you see on the left, which is 5 mtrs off the main road you just walked up.

Smoothy
08-21-19, 16:49
Is this really the quality of girls they have at Sekar Wangi Karaoke? I seriously have to find that place.

Zippos
08-22-19, 00:27
Magic of photoshop! Poorly done though.


Is this really the quality of girls they have at Sekar Wangi Karaoke? I seriously have to find that place.

Smoothy
08-22-19, 05:23
Magic of photoshop! Poorly done though.I thought it might be photoshop. Then again, I'm not sure about that even yet. But this photo looks real, so I am thinking about going today to get a live update. I hope this girl is available. 150k is a deal.

Goferring
08-22-19, 08:40
I thought it might be photoshop.Not Photoshop. More like timelapse. I've seen plenty of cases where your photo represents a 10 year Before and After.

Zippos
08-22-19, 09:34
Just going by my short and minimal graphic designer experience! If you pay close attention between girls body outline and background / set, you will see a very fine white border. Who ever has done it, did a pretty good job with Photoshop. It would have been an Oscar grade work if it was done by Marvel Studios.


Not Photoshop. More like timelapse. I've seen plenty of cases where your photo represents a 10 year Before and After.
I thought it might be photoshop. Then again, I'm not sure about that even yet. But this photo looks real, so I am thinking about going today to get a live update. I hope this girl is available. 150k is a deal.

Zippos
08-22-19, 10:07
I've seen these stunning tourist trappers many times in my life where they asses the client with few simple questions such as "what's your name, where are you from and first time in Indonesia" and start quoting prices in USD! Similar situation on WhatsApp as most of us don't change the number to local WhatsApp number.

I use a VOIP virtual number which works anywhere in the world by simply using internet and I Sheldon buy local sim as to thanks to modern technologies since everything is on the mobile apps.

Beside Singapore scene which is a very true fact, there is Dubai market which is booming, also I've seen lots of rich kids in Jakarta central who pays good money just for the fact of having these stunners and thus stunner suffers in golden pussy syndrome.


Good point. I bet that was the case. I had never seen this girl before, but she was damn good looking and spoke Perfect English. She didn't just ask for 3 jt, she asked for 300 USD. But they do get even more than that in Singapore, so maybe she thought she was giving me a bargain price.

DelBosque
08-23-19, 20:10
If your a pictures kinda guy. Then Goferrings map, posted 1 page ago is perfect.

But if words are more your style, just walk north of 'tugu Pekojan' 550 mtrs, turn left into Jl Rawa Bebek Selatan (street) and go immediately into first alley you see on the left, which is 5 mtrs off the main road you just walked up.Thank You MasBule, now it is clear for me.

MasBule
08-24-19, 01:25
Thank You MasBule, now it is clear for me.I didn't realize there would be so much interest in a dodgy area with dirt cheap service.

I can't take the credit for this discovery. All I did was a google and some sexploration.

I recommend start searching the local forums, there is SSOOOOO much info on places, that have never made a mention on this forum.

Here is the thread relating the recent discovery, all 329 pages of it https://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/557aa0c998e31b71068b456d/reborn-again-ka-ef-ce-day-and-night-to-dawnlife-story/327/?order=asc.

Which led me to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptaqLqzVWy4 , which shows the start of the area at 5. 31.

Here are a few other threads of popular places.

https://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/56478e3bd89b092b288b4568/pp-di-daerah-muwardi-iwan-cahaya-new-ampold-santoso/?ref=threadlist-275&med=thread_list&style=compact

https://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/55f27a2f1a997538258b456a/pp---di-tg-priok/23/?order=asc

https://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/55df58cc582b2e38238b456b/nightlife-jl-raya-daan-mogot/?ref=threadlist-275&med=thread_list&style=compact

And the main page, where these threads can be found https://www.kaskus.co.id/forum/275/nightlife--events/?ref=postlist&med=breadcrumb and all 79 pages of mongering action.

Please report back your discoveries, and post about a place that this forum has never heard of before.

Smoothy
08-24-19, 04:21
I didn't realise there would be so much interest in a dodgy area with dirt cheap service.

I can't take the credit for this discosvery. All I did was a google and some sexploration.

I recommend start searching the local forums, there is SSOOOOO much info on places, that have never made a mention on this forum.

Here is the thread relating the recent discovery, all 329 pages of it https://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/557aa0c998e31b71068b456d/reborn-again-ka-ef-ce-day-and-night-to-dawnlife-story/327/?order=asc.

Which led me to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptaqLqzVWy4 , which shows the start of the area at 5. 31.

Here are a few other threads of popular places.

https://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/56478e3bd89b092b288b4568/pp-di-daerah-muwardi-iwan-cahaya-new-ampold-santoso/?ref=threadlist-275&med=thread_list&style=compact

https://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/55f27a2f1a997538258b456a/pp---di-tg-priok/23/?order=asc

https://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/55df58cc582b2e38238b456b/nightlife-jl-raya-daan-mogot/?ref=threadlist-275&med=thread_list&style=compact

And the main page, where these threads can be found https://www.kaskus.co.id/forum/275/nightlife--events/?ref=postlist&med=breadcrumb and all 79 pages of mongering action.

Please report back your discoveries, and post about a place that this forum has never heard of before.Looks like fun. I don't like that the guy entitled his video "one of the most dangerous places in Jakarta". I can't think of a safer city in the world than Jakarta. It's a down market area for sure, but I wouldn't feel unsafe at all walking around that area.

MasBule
08-24-19, 05:20
Looks like fun. I don't like that the guy entitled his video "one of the most dangerous places in Jakarta". I can't think of a safer city in the world than Jakarta. It's a down market area for sure, but I wouldn't feel unsafe at all walking around that area.Totally agree, and in this country, a smile wins over anyone.

Be confident, smile a lot, try and have a laugh or two.

Both the men and the women in these places seriously encourage our activity. They seem proud to show off their Indonesian women and delight in the fact that us Westerners want to screw them.

AugustChrist
08-24-19, 05:28
I use a VOIP virtual number which works anywhere in the world by simply using internetDear Zippos,

How do you do that?

Will appreciate if you can share.

Thanks mate.

AC.

Zippos
08-25-19, 00:03
Use pocket WiFi for Internet. If you have iPhone X, use eSim from Airalo. Hope that helps.


Dear Zippos,

How do you do that?

Will appreciate if you can share.

Thanks mate.

AC.

EnjoySexLife
08-25-19, 17:00
Hi,

I am Jakarta and will be here for a year.

Can you please advise I some good contacts. Thank you for help.

SoberHans69
08-25-19, 19:53
Hi everyone,

Can anyone please tell me the dress code for CJs and Bats?

Can you get in with trainers, t-shirt and jeans or does it have to be a smart shirt, trousers and smart shoes?

Thanks.

Goferring
08-25-19, 20:30
Hi,

I am Jakarta and will be here for a year.

Can you please advise I some good contacts. Thank you for help.Lease a condo near Pekojan Monument and withdraw a stack of Blue notes.

Enjoy. G.

MasBule
08-26-19, 09:14
Hi,

I am Jakarta and will be here for a year.

Can you please advise I some good contacts. Thank you for help.Tinder is your friend.

Smoothy
08-26-19, 09:31
Hi everyone,

Can anyone please tell me the dress code for CJs and Bats?

Can you get in with trainers, t-shirt and jeans or does it have to be a smart shirt, trousers and smart shoes?

Thanks.As long as you don't wear a tank top, shorts or sandals, you are fine. I always wear jeans and tennis shoes. Most times I wear a long sleeve shirt with a collar, but I have worn t-shirts there. It's places like DragonFly that don't allow t-shirts. I wouldn't wear one of those black or white "undershirt" type of t-shirts that are so popular, those might not get you in.

Reg Le Crispe
08-26-19, 17:18
They expect a smart standard of dress.

If it is smart casual, I see no problem.

Reg Le Crispe
08-26-19, 17:23
Anybody know the pretty, slim, flat chested Amel from BATS?

Keen to know how traveled she is.

Reg Le Crispe
08-26-19, 17:35
Memories has almost died a death.

Fought for my life in there recently, one man died in the fight.

Jaksa is empty.

Blok M has been taken over my Africans.

My Bar is still the go from anytime at night to 6 am.

BATS and CJs are over rated with Yank cover bands for music that get really annoying really quickly. I wait for the dance music inbetween.

The girls vary, and I haven't seen any stunners amongst them.

Smoothy
08-26-19, 18:55
Anybody know the pretty, slim, flat chested Amel from BATS?

Keen to know how traveled she is.I know 3 slim flat chested girls named Amel there. Do you have her photo?

Smoothy
08-26-19, 18:57
Blok M has been taken over my Africans.D's place and My Bar were still ok when I was there recently.

But the taxi drivers agree with you. I have known those taxi drivers for years. I took a taxi from there last week and asked the driver how business was at Blok M and the guy said "Blok M no good now because of Obama Bar and all the black guys. The black guys always fighting and bad people. " I hadn't seen evidence of that, but I take him for his word since he's there every night.

SoberHans69
08-26-19, 19:19
As long as you don't wear a tank top, shorts or sandals, you are fine. I always wear jeans and tennis shoes. Most times I wear a long sleeve shirt with a collar, but I have worn t-shirts there. It's places like DragonFly that don't allow t-shirts. I wouldn't wear one of those black or white "undershirt" type of t-shirts that are so popular, those might not get you in.Thanks for your advice and all the other posts you have made. Very helpful.

Reg Le Crispe
08-27-19, 02:22
I know 3 slim flat chested girls named Amel there. Do you have her photo?I cannot attach it.

Zippos
08-27-19, 06:38
Hey Smoothy,

I have a possible layover option in Jakarta this NewYear for few days. I've tried KL scene in past where FL hikes their price by 2 x-3 x as part of their New Year resolutions! From your experience in living Jakarta, how busy / crazy scene would be in-terms of visiting Classic / King Cross? I would like to play safe to avoid overcrowded, sweaty and Intoxicated mens grinding me at classic or at similar places. LMAO.


What the hell is up with these girls in CJ's trying to order Macallan when you ask them if they want a drink? That crap is 400k (about 30 USD) a glass. When they order for themselves, they order the cheapest drink possible. When they have you paying, they want Macallan. I had three different girls the other night try to order that. Why is that popular all of a sudden? In 20 years going there, I never had a girl ask for that. But the other night, all 3 girls I talked with tried to order it. Is this some kind of a scam where CJs is asking the girls to order that? I also had a girl demand 300 usd ST. She was smoking hot, but come on. I certainly hope nobody is actually giving these girls that much. Suffice it to say, our conversation ended ther. I did not see her spending any long amount of time talking with any guy even though she was the hottest girl in the bar, so hopefully she went home empty handed.

Reg Le Crispe
08-27-19, 14:44
I know 3 slim flat chested girls named Amel there. Do you have her photo?I tried attaching it. Maybe you have to be a paying member to put up photos.

That sounds silly, if so.

Smoothy
08-27-19, 19:01
I tried attaching it. Maybe you have to be a paying member to put up photos.

That sounds silly, if so.My goodness, I don't even know that girl. You may have found a new one on the scene. She's not my type though, so perhaps I just didn't notice her, but I really can't recall her face at all and I go there often.

OldSnake
08-27-19, 21:49
Just landed in India after the trip not much to talk about usual Classic travel and sumo options and 2 movies and a freelancer.

Some thing I noticed they are pushing too much for taking 2 girls argument is I am big. Loosing interest in the hobby thinking should look at casual hook ups and not paid services any more. They are not as fun as they used to be.

Didn't go KI or CJ's this time that's the only regret. Have stopped alcohol and so was a boring trip most of the time.

OS.

Reg Le Crispe
08-28-19, 03:03
My goodness, I don't even know that girl. You may have found a new one on the scene. She's not my type though, so perhaps I just didn't notice her, but I really can't recall her face at all and I go there often.Thanks, Smoothy.

Oh, she's a regular, alright. CJ's, BATS, Eastern promise, My Bar.

Thanks for your reply.

Smoothy
08-28-19, 12:24
Hey Smoothy,

I have a possible layover option in Jakarta this NewYear for few days. I've tried KL scene in past where FL hikes their price by 2 x-3 x as part of their New Year resolutions! From your experience in living Jakarta, how busy / crazy scene would be in-terms of visiting Classic / King Cross? I would like to play safe to avoid overcrowded, sweaty and Intoxicated mens grinding me at classic or at similar places. LMAO.I have never myself, nor known anyone who spent New Years Eve in Hotel Classic, King Cross, or any other brothel in Jakarta, so I have no idea. That's a night I always hang out with a special girlfriend, usually at some New Year's party event. I do know one thing, you need to pick a spot that night and just stay there because the traffic is a nightmare that night. I make sure I arrive at my party spot by 10pm and never even attempt to go home until around 3am because much of the city is gridlock until then.

Zippos
08-28-19, 14:39
Thanks much Smoothy for the info. Gridlock is the kinda Info what I was actually looking for. I'm going to have to take an earlier flight oppose to arriving at late night flight.

Only Special GF option I have, wants to go to Raja Ampat which I'm not looking forward to. I will see how everything plans out. Look at the bright side, if I ended at Classic! I will be the first person you will know who had spent an evening at Classic / King Cross. LMAO.

Thanks much again.


I have never myself, nor known anyone who spent New Years Eve in Hotel Classic, King Cross, or any other brothel in Jakarta, so I have no idea. That's a night I always hang out with a special girlfriend, usually at some New Year's party event. I do know one thing, you need to pick a spot that night and just stay there because the traffic is a nightmare that night. I make sure I arrive at my party spot by 10pm and never even attempt to go home until around 3am because much of the city is gridlock until then.

Offshore Swell
08-29-19, 03:32
Thanks much Smoothy for the info. Gridlock is the kinda Info what I was actually looking for. I'm going to have to take an earlier flight oppose to arriving at late night flight.

Only Special GF option I have, wants to go to Raja Ampat which I'm not looking forward to. I will see how everything plans out. Look at the bright side, if I ended at Classic! I will be the first person you will know who had spent an evening at Classic / King Cross. LMAO.

Thanks much again.Will probably end like most things on new years eve. Once the fireworks are over you will be wondering what's to eat!

Zippos
08-29-19, 06:25
You hit the nail right on head! That's exactly what I was doing on last Eve. For a split second I was thinking you are a mind reader. LOL. Me and my little buddy both were hungry and even though there was snack options for me, my main course was wasted and passed out. Definitely not a great memory I would like to repeat in this lifetime.


Will probably end like most things on new years eve. Once the fireworks are over you will be wondering what's to eat!

CzarNicholas
08-31-19, 03:28
https://www.scmp.com/economy/global-economy/article/3024103/chinas-yuan-currency-slides-fresh-11-year-low-sparking-fears

Goferring
08-31-19, 21:21
https://www.scmp.com/economy/global-economy/article/3024103/chinas-yuan-currency-slides-fresh-11-year-low-sparking-fearsGreat. Something to look forward to.

I arrived in Jakarta during the original Asian Currency Crisis, KrisMon. Crashing local currencies, civilian foreigners scared to come due to blanket news coverage of riots in the streets, World Bank predatory loans sending '000's of girls into unemployment. Talk about a monger paradise.

Cheers. G.

CzarNicholas
09-01-19, 02:50
Great. Something to look forward to.

I arrived in Jakarta during the original Asian Currency Crisis, KrisMon. Crashing local currencies, civilian foreigners scared to come due to blanket news coverage of riots in the streets, World Bank predatory loans sending '000's of girls into unemployment. Talk about a monger paradise.

Cheers. G.I'll extend my extended visit from 6 weeks to 6 months this winter LMAO long live our lord and savior Donald J Trump!

CzarNicholas
09-01-19, 02:51
https://www.scmp.com/economy/global-economy/article/3024103/chinas-yuan-currency-slides-fresh-11-year-low-sparking-fearshttps://www.scmp.com/economy/global-economy/article/3023957/south-koreas-economy-facing-perfect-storm-japan-trade

Blanquiceleste
09-01-19, 04:36
I have never myself, nor known anyone who spent New Years Eve in Hotel Classic, King Cross, or any other brothel in Jakarta, so I have no idea. That's a night I always hang out with a special girlfriend, usually at some New Year's party event. I do know one thing, you need to pick a spot that night and just stay there because the traffic is a nightmare that night. I make sure I arrive at my party spot by 10pm and never even attempt to go home until around 3am because much of the city is gridlock until then.Great advice.

I remember my 2012 new year in Jakarta. On the road in a taxi gridlocked and it was raining. I had a hottie with me in the car. Could not do anything though, as there was cars and people all around. By the time things eased up it was nearly 2.30 am and all I wanted by then was her mouth around my cock. At least I got that.

Never again.

John Traveller
09-01-19, 08:19
For my visit to Jakarta in July I based myself in Kemang. First, I checked out Eastern Promise, I guess it was too early at 11 pm, mostly regular customers. I left and went to Block M to check out the bars on Falatehan street. At midnight Saturday it was quiet. At my last visit in 2016 this street was still interesting, not so much now. Of the four bars still open only My Place and the's had customers. My Place was the best of them, it had a live band, so I had a drink. Very few women though, and none of them of interest to me. Question: is Sunday through Thursday better than Friday and Saturday here?

I went back to Kemang. At 1 am Eastern Promise had picked up; the live band was good, and some good-looking women were present. Typically, the best ones already had company, or seemed to be civilians in mixed groups. And that's the challenge with a place kind of a place: only a fraction of the women is available. Well, it's not that difficult to find out who is. After I short while a beautiful one kept standing next to me, so I chatted her up. She was eager to go, I suggested 500 k, she responded 1 m. As she was so hot I agreed and off we went. She was nice, horny and good in bed, nice body with large boobs. Only st though. Yes, I was lucky, since none of the other available girls in the bar were that pretty.

Eastern Promise can be an interesting place to pick up girls, but it's a hit and miss situation. Few girls are available and most of the 30+ half-pretty MILF types (I guess I am a bit spoiled and picky).

I ended up meeting the same girl again instead, this worked out fine for me.

John Traveller
09-01-19, 08:22
I returned to Jakarta for another visit in August 2019. Saturday night I went to Eastern Promise again, the place was full and rocking. I wasn't satisfied with the selection though, so I grabbed a taxi to Bats at Shangri La.

The entrance fee of 150 k includes one drink. At 1 am the bar was really jammed with party people. I felt I should had arrived earlier though, like 11 pm, because at 1 am all the best girls were already taken. The ones left were mostly in the 30+ age group, typically a bit chubby round-faced "Mid-Eastern looking". I chatted up a few of them, all were eager to go, but I didn't ask about details. (From this forum I've learned that 1. 5 m is common, and I think that's too much, and surprisingly much, for some worn milfs.).

Next time I will go there earlier in the evening. A question: is short time or long time most common here these days? Another question: which days are best? Are Sundays good?

Smoothy
09-01-19, 13:31
I returned to Jakarta for another visit in August 2019. Saturday night I went to Eastern Promise again, the place was full and rocking. I wasn't satisfied with the selection though, so I grabbed a taxi to Bats at Shangri La.

The entrance fee of 150 k includes one drink. At 1 am the bar was really jammed with party people. I felt I should had arrived earlier though, like 11 pm, because at 1 am all the best girls were already taken. The ones left were mostly in the 30+ age group, typically a bit chubby round-faced "Mid-Eastern looking". I chatted up a few of them, all were eager to go, but I didn't ask about details. (From this forum I've learned that 1. 5 m is common, and I think that's too much, and surprisingly much, for some worn milfs.).

Next time I will go there earlier in the evening. A question: is short time or long time most common here these days? Another question: which days are best? Are Sundays good?Sunday night at BATS is normally lame since they have a local indo band instead of the band with the hot Venezuelan chick. I'm not sure that coming earlier to BATS will help much, but let us know if it does. I rarely have any problem picking up a nice girl in her 20's there even at closing time 3 am. I haven't taken one of those over 30 milfs yet, but there were some there the other night I would have taken.

Any photos of the EP chick with the nice body and large boobs? I'm attaching an old photo of the current bartender at EP named Deah from her My Bar calendar days.

D Cups
09-01-19, 16:13
Sunday night at BATS is normally lame since they have a local indo band instead of the band with the hot Venezuelan chick. I'm not sure that coming earlier to BATS will help much, but let us know if it does. I rarely have any problem picking up a nice girl in her 20's there even at closing time 3 am. I haven't taken one of those over 30 milfs yet, but there were some there the other night I would have taken.

Any photos of the EP chick with the nice body and large boobs? I'm attaching an old photo of the current bartender at EP named Deah from her My Bar calendar days.Nice photo. If you see Putry buddy please give her a good pumping and regards from me!

Sanity
09-01-19, 19:35
Visiting Jakarta after 6 years. My usual source DIA seems ti be dead. I hear that Instagram is the latest hunting ground. I have not used it for this. Can some expert guide on how to make contact using Instagram. Thanks in advance. Will post results on trying.

SeaTraveler
09-07-19, 02:38
I worked on Java in 2014 and spent some time in Jakarta during my tenure there.

My favorite haunts were CJ's, then BATS, and Top Gun.

Near the end of my stay, I discovered Maribaya Spa in Hotel Melawi thanks to posts by Koperen Klaas. At the time there were a fair amount of negative posts about the place but it suited me well and I always enjoyed it. Low key, small, decent looking girls, excellent service, GFE attitude, BBBJ & a fair price at 600 k. I made maybe 6 visits and loved every one.

I would go there for fun in the afternoon (Arti) or early evening (Ani) before the evening began at 10 pm at CJ's or BAT'S. I like to get there early and get a good seat near the entry door to peruse the talent walking in.

I was sad to learn of the demise or Maribaya a few years ago.

I've never been to Classic, Travel, Starmoon, 1001, MTR2, Kings Cross, Malio, Malioboro etc - so I can only imagine what those places are like based on the descriptions here.

I have spent weeks perusing the forum, in part, searching for a replacement for Maribaya. I do not like huge meat markets where there is mostly perfunctory or starfish performance - which seems to be places like Classic or Travel. A GFE attitude and personality tops my list. I don't need stunners and can always find a girl who I think is pretty. I go more for the "girl next door" look anyway.

*Is there any alternative similar to Maribaya in 2019 as I return for a few weeks in November.

BBBJ is a must for me. So I need place where those girls who will are more of the majority.

Thanks, SEA Traveler.

Madraz
09-07-19, 21:33
I have a 10 hour layover on the way to Raja Ampat and have booked a room at the Bandara Orchardz hotel outside of the airport. The spa on the 5th floor looks like it will suit my needs after a long flight with a massage and some release. Are you allowed to choose the girl you want or is it a next in line thing. In addition to the type of room you choose for the massage my understanding is 500 K is the price for FS with a total of approx 800 K all in, just want to make sure there are no other surprises the girl will hit me up for, can someone confirm this? I might take a girl when I arrive to the hotel then go back for another visit before my flight that night.

Smoothy
09-08-19, 06:19
I discovered Maribaya Spa in Hotel Melawi thanks to posts by Koperen Klaas. At the time there were a fair amount of negative posts about the place but it suited me well and I always enjoyed it. Low key, small, decent looking girls, excellent service, GFE attitude, BBBJ & a fair price at 600 k. I made maybe 6 visits and loved every one.

*Is there any alternative similar to Maribaya in 2019 as I return for a few weeks in November.

BBBJ is a must for me. So I need place where those girls who will are more of the majority.Maribaya was the best service in Jakarta bar none. You won't find a place that has girls who provide great BJs and sex like those girls did. You also won't find a place with such a laid back atmosphere where you can sit and enjoy a beer in relative peace before selecting a girl. Yes, the girls there were not very attractive after 2009, but prior to that there were some very nice girls working there. Late 90's and early 2000's it rocked. Even at the end when the girls were not as young and attractive as in the glory years at Maribaya, I would still go there on occasion simply because the service was so far superior to anywhere else in town. Of course, the rooms at Maribaya sucked and they never renovated them much. Like Koperan, I also had some of the Maribaya girls come to visit me at my place on occasion. I probably had about 10 Maribaya girls come to my place over the years. I think both Koperan and I had Shela come to visit us many times. LOL. Shela was always rotating between working Top Gun and working Maribaya, she could never make up her mind. I believe the guys who used to complain on this forum about Maribaya are guys who walked in there and saw the girls were older than 20 years old so they never even tried it. They don't know what they were missing.

Even though Maribaya is gone, any of the other places you mentioned do have BBBJ and will provide decent service. Hotel Classic and Hotel Travel must have been losing business because the girls there now do not demand condoms anymore and they are providing much better service than before. If you enjoyed Maribaya, you may want to try Kartika. You don't hear much about that place here, but it also has girls who are older that provide good service like the Maribaya girls. I suggest you try a few different places and figure out which you like best. You already have the list.

I'm attaching a few old photos of Maribaya for you.

GCNovice
09-08-19, 10:00
I've never been to Classic, Travel, Starmoon, 1001, MTR2, Kings Cross, Malio, Malioboro etc - so I can only imagine what those places are like based on the descriptions here.

......

BBBJ is a must for me. So I need place where those girls who will are more of the majority.

Thanks, SEA Traveler.Just go to Classic or Travel. I suggest going to Classic / Travel after 6-6:30 pm and before 10 pm (Sunday is a bust as many girls are not working at those two establishments). After 10 pm, majority of the girls are taken and room do not get clean as much. For BBBJ, I found that girls at Travel are more willing to comply with the request.

Offshore Swell
09-08-19, 12:20
OS was cruising around Jakarta in a car one night after a meal with my wife and some local friends. This is OS's real wife who has always claimed to want to go to a bar and sing dangdut, and she can sing!. We shall call her lady OS in deference to her social standing.

So I suggested we go to Cafe Asmora.

We get there and they are all pretty apprehensive about the location. The Ambonese outside had them on edge.

We go in and it's a smoky old dump all right, all these pink saloon girls who looked well past their use by label are perched down the edges and it's just us in the seats peering through the smoke at this rip roaring 10 piece dangdut band. OS thought it was great but my local friends were having none of that and couldn't wait to get out of there. So we down one beer each and hot tail it back to the car which some woman has attached herself to as our new found security. We all stink of cigarette smoke.

After this experience, OS has had to accept that his true love seems reluctant to perform in the seedy dives that are the heartland of the dangdut genre and that she may just be a bathroom star, never to be at Cafe Asmora with every gangster and cowboy in town cheering on.

But OS thinks he could probably quite enjoy a night there snuggled up to some middle aged fattie, or the YYY bar, or the Priok bars. You just get hazy and enjoy.

SeaTraveler
09-08-19, 22:40
Maribaya was the best service in Jakarta bar none. You won't find a place that has girls who provide great BJs and sex like those girls did. You also won't find a place with such a laid back atmosphere where you can sit and enjoy a beer in relative peace before selecting a girl.
I'm attaching a few old photos of Maribaya for you.Hey Smoothy,

Thanks for the pics and time travel. I was never there prior to working on Java in 2014. The rooms look the same, but the lounge area (in 2014) usually only had 5 or 6 girls. But I found 2 or 3 I really liked and stuck with them. I also had Rita over to my hotel once (and videotaped the encounter).

Thanks for the feedback.

SeaTraveler
09-08-19, 22:54
I visited M. O. Bar back in 2014 several times on lady's night. The girl's drinks are free so that is at least partial motivation for the girls to come. It was never overly crowded, tho I did go earlier in the evening, but I did meet a few nice ladies that made the stop worthwhile.

I haven't read anything in the last 100 pages about Mandarin Oriental (other than Gekko's taxi dilemma).

According to Facebook. MO bar still has lady's night on Tuesday and Thursday from 8 pm to 1 am.

Does anyone out there have an update or a recent visit?

Jason55
09-09-19, 09:11
I know it is the norm to want to bang the young and the beautiful. I kind of like variety sometimes and like to bang a older beautiful woman.

I hear eastern promise is the place to find such girls. I would be grateful if anyone could confirm this with personal experience and if there are other places. Would be grateful for any inputs.

Thanks in advance.What is this eastern promise?

BenderOver
09-09-19, 12:07
For BBBJ, I found that girls at Travel are more willing to comply with the request.Valid comment and I'm not here to dispute. But for my few visits and in my cases only, I had better luck at Classic and much better luck at any of the KI places. Actually, I've never received a CBJ in KI ever and been there a lot, always BBBJ.

Manfield04
09-09-19, 20:41
Lucky you! I always had CBJ at Classic! I thought they don't give BBBJ. On the other side, few girls I picked up from Lokasari Square gave BBBJ.


But for my few visits and in my cases only, I had better luck at Classic and much better luck at any of the KI places. Actually, I've never received a CBJ in KI ever and been there a lot, always BBBJ.

DelBosque
09-09-19, 22:06
What is this eastern promise?It's a restaurant / Bar / club in Kemang.

Smoothy
09-09-19, 22:46
Valid comment and I'm not here to dispute. But for my few visits and in my cases only, I had better luck at Classic.I had girls at Hotel Classic ask for condom for BJ in the past, but lately they don't ever ask. The ones who did ask for condom, I cancelled the session immediately and walked back out and asked the mamasan for a different girl. I will not accept that in Indonesia. One time I actually did let the girl do it since she was so hot, but I regret it to this day. Lately the Classic girls haven't even asked for a condom for sex, let alone for BJ. In the past, they always asked for one for sex. I don't go to Hotel Travel anymore because I don't like the environment (I am not a smoker). But for sure the girls at Hotel Travel are just as good looking as at Classic. In the past when I used to go to Travel, I never had them ask for a condom. But I haven't been there in 10 years. The girls at Malioboro have never asked for a condom for BJ either, but I only go with the local girls and never with the imports, I do hear the imports will on occasion. None of the girls at the places at Kelapa Gading like King Cross or MTR2 have ever asked me for a condom, not even for sex. I don't think getting a BBBJ in Jakarta is much of a concern. The main concern is going to be finding a place that is as laid back to hang out in as Maribaya. Many of the down market places are a nightmare environment at night with lower class locals smoking everywhere, crowded, and loud as hell music. Hotel Classic doesn't bother me, especially classic bunker on the ground floor. That's a good spot to visit. Bunker is not only a nicer environment to hang out, it's the cheapest place in town for that type of action. It's only 330 k. I prefer King Cross and Malioboro simply because the environment is much nicer due to them charging a cover that keeps the lower class locals out, but classic bunker is the best value for money in Jakarta in my opinion.

BenderOver
09-10-19, 12:20
The girls at Malioboro have never asked for a condom for BJ either, but I only go with the local girls and never with the imports, I do hear the imports will on occasion..I've been to Malioboro twice. Quite the maze. I've been with one girl in the quiet bar at the top. When I went up there, she looked like she was sitting with her boyfriend. Such a stupid move for me to pick her but she was the prettiest and cheapest. Total starfish. Didn't want to do anything. Why bother working in this field?

The other girl was on a different occasion. One of the pretty ones from the main couch area. Again, nothing memorable so I just stopped going to this place.

Always got what I wanted except for one time at KI. But it takes a bit of work to check out 300 girls in five different smoke filled locations.

Grand MTR is my new favorite in that shithole alley.

Zippos
09-10-19, 14:48
Hey Smoothy,

Are you referring to that spa as a bunker which is right across the small convenience store and open restaurant, more of at underground level Or am I missing something here? So far I know classic has, that underground spa, Terminal 2 and Terminal 5!

I would definitely like to find out that bunker place if it's not the same spa where they have the option of 330 k / pop.

I went to that spa once where both hotties at the reception quoting me 1.2/1.3 for massage!


I had girls at Hotel Classic ask for condom for BJ in the past, but lately they don't ever ask. The ones who did ask for condom, I cancelled the session immediately and walked back out and asked the mamasan for a different girl. I will not accept that in Indonesia. One time I actually did let the girl do it since she was so hot, but I regret it to this day. Lately the Classic girls haven't even asked for a condom for sex, let alone for BJ. In the past, they always asked for one for sex. I don't go to Hotel Travel anymore because I don't like the environment (I am not a smoker). But for sure the girls at Hotel Travel are just as good looking as at Classic. In the past when I used to go to Travel, I never had them ask for a condom. But I haven't been there in 10 years. The girls at Malioboro have never asked for a condom for BJ either, but I only go with the local girls and never with the imports, I do hear the imports will on occasion. None of the girls at the places at Kelapa Gading like King Cross or MTR2 have ever asked me for a condom, not even for sex. I don't think getting a BBBJ in Jakarta is much of a concern. The main concern is going to be finding a place that is as laid back to hang out in as Maribaya. Many of the down market places are a nightmare environment at night with lower class locals smoking everywhere, crowded, and loud as hell music. Hotel Classic doesn't bother me, especially classic bunker on the ground floor. That's a good spot to visit. Bunker is not only a nicer environment to hang out, it's the cheapest place in town for that type of action. It's only 330 k. I prefer King Cross and Malioboro simply because the environment is much nicer due to them charging a cover that keeps the lower class locals out, but classic bunker is the best value for money in Jakarta in my opinion.

Smoothy
09-10-19, 18:28
I've been to Malioboro twice. Quite the maze. I've been with one girl in the quiet bar at the top. When I went up there, she looked like she was sitting with her boyfriend. Such a stupid move for me to pick her but she was the prettiest and cheapest. Total starfish. Didn't want to do anything. Why bother working in this field?

The other girl was on a different occasion. One of the pretty ones from the main couch area. Again, nothing memorable so I just stopped going to this place.

Always got what I wanted except for one time at KI. But it takes a bit of work to check out 300 girls in five different smoke filled locations.

Grand MTR is my new favorite in that shithole alley.Maybe try MTR2 in Kelapa Gading. The rooms and the girls are nicer. Hell, MTR has the worst rooms, that was the very first place built in that area and it's also the least renovated. The quality of the rooms is important for me.

I don't take the girls at Malioboro from the cheap "quiet bar" anymore. In my opinion, if you plan on going to Malioboro to take a girl from that room these days, it's not worth it. There used to be nice girls there years ago, but now I take the more expensive girls for 800 k simply because the quality to so much better. Yes, the price is double, but honestly 800 k is only about 60 usd.

Classic Bunker is on the ground level floor when you first walk in, it is not the spa in the basement. I love the rooms and the overall experience at bunker, it's only 330 k, and the ambience is nice.

For me, there is not a lot of difference between 330 k and 800 k because I value my time and the total quality of the experience more than I value an extra 35 usd. The rooms at Malioboro are quite nice, the girls are also nice and fucked less often than the ones at the cheaper places, and I only shag once a day anyway so I can afford an extra 35 bucks.

Zippos
09-11-19, 03:09
I literally feel like a stupid fool not for noticing the bunker, specially after visiting / staying at Classic numerous times! I may just have to take a flight to CGK just to explore the bunker now. LOL. All theses time I was thinking Classic only had Spa, Terminal 2 and Terminal 5.


Classic Bunker is on the ground level floor when you first walk in, it is not the spa in the basement. I love the rooms and the overall experience at bunker, it's only 330 k, and the ambience is nice.

Kerrstar
09-11-19, 08:41
What is this eastern promise?Restaurant / bar in Kemang. Pretty good western food. Band plays Fri / Sat and they have quite a few freelancers around those nights. Other nights it 's a bit hit and miss.

BkkVistor77
09-11-19, 12:43
Hi all,

I'll be back in Jakarta in October and will arrive on a Tuesday night.

I'll do some travelling and will have one more night at the end of my trip in Jakarta and was wondering if Blok M is still a good destination for meeting a lovely 20-30 year old for the night.

I'm not really into the big brothel places and would prefer to be with a freelancer.

So is Blok M still a good place to play?

GrandPop
09-11-19, 19:13
This will be my first time in Kelapa Gading and I'm confused about Sumo. Google map shows two Sumo's. There is Sumo Shiatsu in the northern part of KG and then there is Sumo Hotel and Spa in the southeast corner of KG. When someone just says Sumo, which one is he talking about?

Thanks for clearing up my confusion!

JbbFourU
09-12-19, 10:38
Guys,

I'm traveling to Jakarta next weekend and would need some good contacts to spend time with.

Please let me know, appreciate your help! And by the way this forum rocks!

Thanks.

Offshore Swell
09-12-19, 12:43
This will be my first time in Kelapa Gading and I'm confused about Sumo. Google map shows two Sumo's. There is Sumo Shiatsu in the northern part of KG and then there is Sumo Hotel and Spa in the southeast corner of KG. When someone just says Sumo, which one is he talking about?

Thanks for clearing up my confusion!The Sumo you want is in the next alley over from Kings Cross and MTR2.

Hope that helps.

OS.

GrandPop
09-12-19, 13:47
The Sumo you want is in the next alley over from Kings Cross and MTR2.

Hope that helps.

OS.Thanks, OS, for the info. I'm still not sure. Is it next to Delta Spa, or is it really close to Kings Cross? Thanks again!

Zippos
09-12-19, 14:22
It's the Sumo Shiatsu, pretty much on a straight line right across MTR2.


This will be my first time in Kelapa Gading and I'm confused about Sumo. Google map shows two Sumo's. There is Sumo Shiatsu in the northern part of KG and then there is Sumo Hotel and Spa in the southeast corner of KG. When someone just says Sumo, which one is he talking about?

Thanks for clearing up my confusion!

Blanquiceleste
09-12-19, 14:36
Thanks, OS, for the info. I'm still not sure. Is it next to Delta Spa, or is it really close to Kings Cross? Thanks again!Sumo Shiatsu is what you want. Also all these places mentioned are in the same compound a the literally a couple of minutes walk between each other.

Austin857
09-12-19, 19:12
Hi guys!

I am in Indonesia for 3 months and will need help from brothers here.

Need your kind help to.

- find good places for picking up best girls.

- best massage place with full service.

- any freelancer numbers.

GFE will be awesome to have. Drink' s on me when we meet.

Thanks in advance guys.

SeaTraveler
09-12-19, 21:55
Hi all,
So is Blok M still a good place to play?All I can say is, "It depends".

Definitely not the Blok of years gone by. BUT, on my trip last year I stopped in on my first night and found the best girl of my trip. Bar none. I had her over 3 nights out of 10.

One thing is certain, the Blok is late night, so you really need to go around 3 am. I arrived at 4 am on a Thursday and found Lia last year.

I'll be back in November and I'll be sure to drop in my first night while jet lag from the USA is in full effect.

Cheers, SEA Traveler.

Goferring
09-13-19, 02:34
Hi guys!

I am in Indonesia for 3 months and will need help from brothers here.

Just so I'm clear, you live in Jakarta and need help to get laid??

Cheers. G.

Offshore Swell
09-13-19, 15:18
Hi guys!

I am in Indonesia for 3 months and will need help from brothers here.

Need your kind help to.

- find good places for picking up best girls.

- best massage place with full service.

- any freelancer numbers.

GFE will be awesome to have. Drink' s on me when we meet.

Thanks in advance guys.Yup, I guess theres no harm in asking, and asking, and asking. 15 of your 17 posts do exactly that. The other two are to tell somebody their inbox is full

Blanquiceleste
09-13-19, 15:31
Yup, I guess theres no harm in asking, and asking, and asking. 15 of your 17 posts do exactly that. The other two are to tell somebody their inbox is fullSo. You are passing up on those drinks? No. LOL.

CrazyMan
09-13-19, 16:24
Hi guys!

I am in Indonesia for 3 months and will need help from brothers here.

Need your kind help to.

- find good places for picking up best girls.

- best massage place with full service.

- any freelancer numbers.

GFE will be awesome to have. Drink' s on me when we meet.

Thanks in advance guys.Hello,

This advice is from personal experience from 2 years ago. It should still work today.

1) Put Wechat on your phone. Open the look around for people close by. Within 10 minutes you will have 20+ girls messaging you all saying they will give massage but no ++. After they enter your room and you show them money (they will do anything for very low prices usually) they will be undressed in 1 second sharp and if you are undressed already they will mount you in the 2nd second and try to get your little one in without a condom no matter if it is already hard or not. At that point you either convince them to shower and condom first are you go with it and start pumping. Very easy.

2) After the deed you can ask her for friends whom look more specific to what you like in looks and promise them a finders fee. Next 10 girls will be bonking on your door and you can have the pick of the litter.

If you have the advantage of being there for a longer time this process should be even easier. Plus department store girls, shop girls any kind of girl is usually in for at least a coffee with a well behaved reasonably dressed male. And many will agree to continue in your room.

Also look 1 or 2 pages back in this forum and you will see many many places mentioned. Also google for Jakarta 100 bars website.

This is all assuming you are a recently decent person (not looks but personality wise). Also with google translate you can have funny conversations. The girls usually like a fun character, whom also shows an interest in them, unless the girl is really hardcore. Your looks usually don't matter unless she is a rich princess. And even rich and middle class girls will go with fat 45 year old ugly slobs like myself once they find out I have a nice personality (and no I am not rich).

I have not been in Jakarta many times. And the last time was 2 years ago. But ever since my first time there around 2001 I have never ever had a problem finding girls, even the ones to your own liking! It just is a matter of being resourceful, respectful, funny.

I really hope to get lucky and be there for a longer time again soon. Good luck!

Smoothy
09-14-19, 16:50
Hi guys!

I am in Indonesia for 3 months and will need help from brothers here.

Need your kind help to.

- find good places for picking up best girls.

- best massage place with full service.

- any freelancer numbers.

GFE will be awesome to have. Drink' s on me when we meet.

Thanks in advance guys.You need to learn to speak some of the Indonesian language. I can help a bit. Get a taxi around midnight and ask him to take you to Taman Lawang. The way to say that in Indonesian is pronounced like this: "ke tahman lahwang bapa. Saya mau kamu bantu saya charee benchong". Then just wait for nature to take it's course.

I look forward to your field report.

ScorpioAngel
09-15-19, 06:02
You need to learn to speak some of the Indonesian language. I can help a bit. Get a taxi around midnight and ask him to take you to Taman Lawang. The way to say that in Indonesian is pronounced like this: "ke tahman lahwang bapa. Saya mau kamu bantu saya charee benchong". Then just wait for nature to take it's course.

I look forward to your field report.What's there at Taman Lawang?

Blanquiceleste
09-15-19, 06:50
You need to learn to speak some of the Indonesian language. I can help a bit. Get a taxi around midnight and ask him to take you to Taman Lawang. The way to say that in Indonesian is pronounced like this: "ke tahman lahwang bapa. Saya mau kamu bantu saya charee benchong". Then just wait for nature to take it's course.

I look forward to your field report.While this is hilarious asf I would still appeal to the good side of people to not cause harm to another OP knowingly. If you don't want to help, that is fine. You can ignore. Perhaps go as far as asking them to RTFF along with a few sarcastic comments.

Offshore Swell
09-15-19, 11:33
You need to learn to speak some of the Indonesian language. I can help a bit. Get a taxi around midnight and ask him to take you to Taman Lawang. The way to say that in Indonesian is pronounced like this: "ke tahman lahwang bapa. Saya mau kamu bantu saya charee benchong". Then just wait for nature to take it's course.

I look forward to your field report.Damn! Looks like the cat's out the bag about Taman Lawang. Been trying to keep that place to myself forever.

You bastard Smoothy.

Ggekko2009
09-15-19, 12:54
You need to learn to speak some of the Indonesian language. I can help a bit. Get a taxi around midnight and ask him to take you to Taman Lawang. The way to say that in Indonesian is pronounced like this: "ke tahman lahwang bapa. Saya mau kamu bantu saya charee benchong". Then just wait for nature to take it's course.

I look forward to your field report.Hahaha. Make sure the report contains detailed description of the action and reaction.

Zippos
09-15-19, 14:57
I believe Smoothy is try to transition Austin into Austin Powers. LMAO.


You need to learn to speak some of the Indonesian language. I can help a bit. Get a taxi around midnight and ask him to take you to Taman Lawang. The way to say that in Indonesian is pronounced like this: "ke tahman lahwang bapa. Saya mau kamu bantu saya charee benchong". Then just wait for nature to take it's course.

I look forward to your field report.


Damn! Looks like the cat's out the bag about Taman Lawang. Been trying to keep that place to myself forever.

You bastard Smoothy.


Hahaha. Make sure the report contains detailed description of the action and reaction.

OrientalLover
09-15-19, 18:43
First day (Monday) around 4 PM went to be'Fashion. Up to the 9th floor. Mama show me few girls selected one with nice boobs. I shower alone no assisted shower here. She started with massage. It was decent massage but for the heaven sake she avoided playing with my dick balls or ass. After the massage I asked for full service. She wanted to give me CBJ, I asked for BBBJ. I was told it is always CBJ. So let her proceed and then she rode me cow girl for a while and I fuck her in missionary and doggy. No DFK. Damage 750 K for the service and 320 K for the room.

Second day went to Sumo Shiatsu in Kelapa Gading around 2 PM. It was closed and I was told it will open after 5 PM. Didn't want to waste a day so went to Classic Terminal 2 around 11 PM. Again same routine as be'Fashion. No DFK, CBJ and no assisted shower. Damage 365 K for the service. I can not remember I pay for the room here or not.

Third day I went to the'Heaven in Kelapa Gading around 2 PM. This place is almost same as other spas. CBJ, No DFK. Damage 350 K for the service, 420 K for the room.

Since I was staying at Shangri La went to BATS around 11 PM. Stay there for may be 90 minutes before selecting a MILF she asked for 1.5 M. This is the First Lady gave me assisted shower BBBJ and DFK. One time came in her mouth and other time came in her pussy with condom. After the deed send her home.

Fourth day went to My Bar after midnight. Stay there for a while and picked up a girl. Same routine as BATS lady. Damage 1 M.

Fifth day, I went to Malioboro. This place has sharks. The girls can smell whether you are first time visitor. I was attached by like 5 girls all wanted drinks and call the bar man. I told him no, so three of the girls left. Then the other two were petering for drinks and I gave up. Within five minutes they down 4 drink each and another girl joined she downed 3 drinks. At this point I ask the girls for sex they were pushing for blowjobs. I told them no I need sex. So now mama came and show me it will cost something like 3.4 M for sex. I don't know whether she included the drinks with sex or not but I told her it is too expensive. The girls left me the minute I said I need sex. This place really sucks. So left paid 850 K for the drinks.

I ended up in BATS, selected another lady it was around midnight. She wanted 2 M. I did not want to negotiate so say OK let's go. 2 rounds with DFK, BBBJ and a good massage as well.

Last day in the town booked taxi to go to be'Fashion. He took me to Fashion Hotel. This place also has a spa. Went to 6th floor. Ask for skinny girl. The service her is much better than the other spas. She actually massage my dick and balls play with my ass. Again no DFK, CBJ. Damage 685 K.

So bottom line is there are lot of massage places and girls available but with my short stay it seems if you need some sort of GFE you better selected Freelancers. Forget about PSE.

Ggekko2009
09-16-19, 00:00
What's there at Taman Lawang?Jokes aside, bencong is a slang that means ladyboy. Just say you want to look for cewek, pronounced as "Chae Wek", which means girl, and you should be good there.

Blanquiceleste
09-16-19, 01:06
Jokes aside, bencong is a slang that means ladyboy. Just say you want to look for cewek, pronounced as "Chae Wek", which means girl, and you should be good there.The K is usually silent. So maybe chae way should get results. Kan?

Hilo77
09-16-19, 03:13
Fifth day, I went to Malioboro. This place has sharks. The girls can smell whether you are first time visitor. I was attached by like 5 girls all wanted drinks and call the bar man. I told him no, so three of the girls left. Then the other two were petering for drinks and I gave up. Within five minutes they down 4 drink each and another girl joined she downed 3 drinks. At this point I ask the girls for sex they were pushing for blowjobs. I told them no I need sex. So now mama came and show me it will cost something like 3.4 M for sex. I don't know whether she included the drinks with sex or not but I told her it is too expensive. The girls left me the minute I said I need sex. This place really sucks. So left paid 850 K for the drinks.

It's a shame you didn't quite get to enjoy the delights of Jakarta but the girls in Malioboro certainly did cotton on very quickly that you were a new guy, as indeed did all the other girls and you ended up with a pretty dire and expensive experience because you didn't slow down, relax and get a feel for your circumstances and negotiate a bit.

What you are describing in Malioboro was a feeding frenzy by titty dancers. They wanted lady drinks (that was the symbol you mistook for a blowjob offer), they get paid on the basis of how many little shots you buy them (are you not familiar with this concept?) You buy them drinks and they give you a lap dance, the number and speed of the drinks is usually within your control, up to a point, and if you only want one dancer you simply wave the others away. The dancers are extremely expensive to hire for sex as they make money on the floor cadging drinks.

The girls you wanted for sex were lined up on benches or walking around behind a mamasan, did you not see them?

Next time, wherever it is you visit, be it a high end club or strip joint / brothel like Malioboro or Classic, take it easy. Just walk in like you own the place get a table, order a beer and just chill out, look around you, watch what the other punters are doing. Relax and smile, don't accept the first piece of flashtail that presents herself at your table looking for cash. You are the customer, you are in charge. If you make it obvious to all concerned that you are a newbie with lots of cash to throw around, well, I am sorry, you are going to get rolled pretty quickly and leave feeling less than whelmed.

Oh, and don't expect to be passionately kissed by a h00 ker in a brothel, that's not how it's done, and honestly when you think where her tongue has been 20 minutes earlier, are you missing out on much?

Haggis Man
09-16-19, 09:19
It's a shame you didn't quite get to enjoy the delights of Jakarta but the girls in Malioboro certainly did cotton on very quickly that you were a new guy, as indeed did all the other girls and you ended up with a pretty dire and expensive experience because you didn't slow down, relax and get a feel for your circumstances and negotiate a bit.

What you are describing in Malioboro was a feeding frenzy by titty dancers. They wanted lady drinks (that was the symbol you mistook for a blowjob offer), they get paid on the basis of how many little shots you buy them (are you not familiar with this concept?) You buy them drinks and they give you a lap dance, the number and speed of the drinks is usually within your control, up to a point, and if you only want one dancer you simply wave the others away. The dancers are extremely expensive to hire for sex as they make money on the floor cadging drinks.
If you are referring to Malio Club, 20 Ladies Drink is the price for a blow job behind the curtain area on the upper level, so they may have been angling for that!

Smoothy
09-16-19, 10:39
Jokes aside, bencong is a slang that means ladyboy. Just say you want to look for cewek, pronounced as "Chae Wek", which means girl, and you should be good there.So you went to Taman Lawang and said you wanted to look for "Chae Wek" and you were good there? I'd like to hear some details about that story.

Koperen Klaas
09-16-19, 21:02
Maribaya was the best service in Jakarta bar none. You won't find a place that has girls who provide great BJs and sex like those girls did. You also won't find a place with such a laid back atmosphere where you can sit and enjoy a beer in relative peace before selecting a girl. Yes, the girls there were not very attractive after 2009, but prior to that there were some very nice girls working there. Late 90's and early 2000's it rocked. Even at the end when the girls were not as young and attractive as in the glory years at Maribaya, I would still go there on occasion simply because the service was so far superior to anywhere else in town. Of course, the rooms at Maribaya sucked and they never renovated them much. Like Koperan, I also had some of the Maribaya girls come to visit me at my place on occasion. I probably had about 10 Maribaya girls come to my place over the years. I think both Koperan and I had Shela come to visit us many times. LOL. Shela was always rotating between working Top Gun and working Maribaya, she could never make up her mind. I believe the guys who used to complain on this forum about Maribaya are guys who walked in there and saw the girls were older than 20 years old so they never even tried it. They don't know what they were missing..When Maribaya closed, some said it was because of bankruptcy, others said it was for renovations. Silfi, formerly of Maribaya, didn't know but was interested.

Last June I took a look at the 6th floor (you can just walk in and take the elevator) and there was much sound of construction work going on in the former bar area. Could there actually be a renovation going on with the aim of bringing back a rejuvenated Maribaya? Who knows.

Regards.

Ko.

Koperen Klaas
09-16-19, 21:06
<SNIP>

I'm attaching a few old photos of Maribaya for you.By the way, photos. What has happened to the site? When I try to open a photo, a postage stamp sized picture opens.

Do other members experience the same?

Smoothy
09-16-19, 22:20
By the way, photos. What has happened to the site? When I try to open a photo, a postage stamp sized picture opens.

Do other members experience the same?I don't seem to have that problem. They all pop up full size for me.

Ggekko2009
09-16-19, 23:15
So you went to Taman Lawang and said you wanted to look for "Chae Wek" and you were good there? I'd like to hear some details about that story.I don't know anything about Taman Lawang. Judging from all these, I have the impression that the place is filled with ladyboys. I am only trying to say that the word used to find girls in Jakarta is to use the word "cewek" for those who are new to the language. I didn't mean to imply to go to Taman Lawang to do so. Come to think about it, I might have implied that. Well, anyway.

Smoothy
09-16-19, 23:44
I don't know anything about Taman Lawang.That's a bit of a shock, the place is famous. There was even a movie made about TL. I've never seen a movie about Hotel Classic or Malioboro, but there is a movie about Taman Lawang.

The gent said he'd be in town 3 months. If he will be in town that long, some may consider it a must to swing by TL for a good laugh. Most of the locals know it well and will crack up laughing at the mere mention of the place.

I have driven through there many times after picking up a girl from BATS. The girls from BATS will act like they don't like driving through there, but in reality they love it. The girl with me will normally slouch down and semi hide her face as the driver laughs while we drive through and enjoy the sights. Good fun! It's not as busy as it was in years gone by, but you can still spot some pretty large silicone implants on occasion. I normally tease my BATS girl in the car about how the sexy things we are driving past are even sexier than her, and the girl will basically always agree.

One warning, if you don't see any that catch your fancy, make sure you keep the doors of the car locked and windows up because they are a bit aggressive and may try to jump in with you if you drive by slowly enough.

Hope this helps to enhance your Jakarta experience.

OmBule
09-17-19, 01:28
When Maribaya closed, some said it was because of bankruptcy, others said it was for renovations. Silfi, formerly of Maribaya, didn't know but was interested.

Last June I took a look at the 6th floor (you can just walk in and take the elevator) and there was much sound of construction work going on in the former bar area. Could there actually be a renovation going on with the aim of bringing back a rejuvenated Maribaya? Who knows.

Regards.

Ko.Hello everyone,

I've visited Hotel Melawai after the renovations Ko talked about.

My field report: Maribaya is dead. As dead as a doornail. It's shuffled off this mortal coil and gone to join the Choir Invisible.

The space has been converted into meeting rooms and an in-house massage area aimed at the visiting civil servants who comprise most of the hotel's clientele.

Blok M is getting developed and respectable. Nihilo sanctum estne?

Bonus find from my field trip: Go closer to the intersection where the MRT runs and you'll find a no-questions-asked short-time hotel!

Plunk down Rp 180,000 and get six hours in a clean, microscopic and windowless room filled by a bed and a transparent shower cube, with a flat screen TV mounted on the wall. You'll need a wide-angle lens to take any pictures that's how close the walls are.

The short-time place is next to a low-end bar / pub, and is likely under the same managemental though I don't think there is a dank corridor connecting the two, like there is Bintang Mawar and Hotel Safari.

Smoothy
09-17-19, 04:23
Hello everyone,

I've visited Hotel Melawai after the renovations Ko talked about.

My field report: Maribaya is dead. As dead as a doornail. It's shuffled off this mortal coil and gone to join the Choir Invisible.

The space has been converted into meeting rooms and an in-house massage area aimed at the visiting civil servants who comprise most of the hotel's clientele.

Blok M is getting developed and respectable. Nihilo sanctum estne?

Bonus find from my field trip: Go closer to the intersection where the MRT runs and you'll find a no-questions-asked short-time hotel!

Plunk down Rp 180,000 and get six hours in a clean, microscopic and windowless room filled by a bed and a transparent shower cube, with a flat screen TV mounted on the wall. You'll need a wide-angle lens to take any pictures that's how close the walls are.

The short-time place is next to a low-end bar / pub, and is likely under the same managemental though I don't think there is a dank corridor connecting the two, like there is Bintang Mawar and Hotel Safari.A short walk right around the corner from Hotel Melawai is Blok M Square. There is a massage place called Metropolis that you can go to there.

Zippos
09-17-19, 04:45
This Taman Lawang is really getting overboard! One should experience this once in a life time at least once! As stated below, unless you are into these very modified gods creation! Please keep doors very locked and windows very up, you have been warned, LMAO.


That's a bit of a shock, the place is famous. There was even a movie made about TL. I've never seen a movie about Hotel Classic or Malioboro, but there is a movie about Taman Lawang.

The gent said he'd be in town 3 months. If he will be in town that long, some may consider it a must to swing by TL for a good laugh. Most of the locals know it well and will crack up laughing at the mere mention of the place.

I have driven through there many times after picking up a girl from BATS. The girls from BATS will act like they don't like driving through there, but in reality they love it. The girl with me will normally slouch down and semi hide her face as the driver laughs while we drive through and enjoy the sights. Good fun! It's not as busy as it was in years gone by, but you can still spot some pretty large silicone implants on occasion. I normally tease my BATS girl in the car about how the sexy things we are driving past are even sexier than her, and the girl will basically always agree.

Smoothy
09-17-19, 10:01
Here are some girls from Metropolis from the Metropolis Instagram account.

An even better place (much better) is the'Heaven Spa in Grand Wijaya Center which is less than a 5 minute cab ride from Hotel Melawai. As much as I liked Maribaya, there are definitely other options in that area.

KeenGerle
09-18-19, 03:25
Hi there,

I used to go to Jakarta a lot back in 2014. While fancy places, brothels (like Hotel travel) and spas are all fun, I miss the adventures, seedy times back when Kalibojo was still open. The veterans may know what I am talking about. It gave me the kick to loaf around there (with almost no bules around) and just venture. Super local and cheap as fuck.

Does anyone know if such places (like Kalibojo) still exists and can trow in some names so I can research myself? Happy to RTFF but cannot get the right keywords / names to start.

Cheers,

Keengerle.

MutantChicken
09-18-19, 15:27
Hi there,

I used to go to Jakarta a lot back in 2014. While fancy places, brothels (like Hotel travel) and spas are all fun, I miss the adventures, seedy times back when Kalibojo was still open. The veterans may know what I am talking about. It gave me the kick to loaf around there (with almost no bules around) and just venture. Super local and cheap as fuck.

Does anyone know if such places (like Kalibojo) still exists and can trow in some names so I can research myself? Happy to RTFF but cannot get the right keywords / names to start.

Cheers,

Keengerle.Glad to hear that you are happy to research and RTFF yourself, you don't need any names just start from page one and proceed from there but sure if you want me to throw you a name as opposed to trow then Tamen Lawang.

Party Nator
09-18-19, 18:11
Was in Jakarta for a couple of days recently and visited Malibo and both times ended up for a BJ service upstairs. They are now wearing see through tops and bikini type panties. One hopes that this is the first steps before the nude dancing begins somewhere down the line.

Beware that they are now adding a 30% tax on the final bill which surprised me the first time as I didn't experience it last year.

BATS everyone is asking 2 million and have to be a night of slim pickings for them to agree to 1. 5 million.

Blok M MyBar was not very crowded on both days I went. Have to be patient and wait for a while to pick a good one. 700,000 is the price here.

SeaTraveler
09-18-19, 19:58
BUMP.

I visited M. O. Bar back in 2014 several times on lady's night. The girl's drinks are free so that is at least partial motivation for the girls to come. It was never overly crowded, tho I did go earlier in the evening, but I did meet a few nice ladies that made the stop worthwhile.

According to Facebook. MO bar still has lady's night on Tuesday and Thursday from 8 pm to 1 am.

Does anyone out there have an update or a recent visit?

Smoothy
09-18-19, 20:24
Hi there,

I used to go to Jakarta a lot back in 2014. While fancy places, brothels (like Hotel travel) and spas are all fun, I miss the adventures, seedy times back when Kalibojo was still open. The veterans may know what I am talking about. It gave me the kick to loaf around there (with almost no bules around) and just venture. Super local and cheap as fuck.

Does anyone know if such places (like Kalibojo) still exists and can trow in some names so I can research myself? Happy to RTFF but cannot get the right keywords / names to start.

Cheers,

Keengerle.http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2357175&viewfull=1#post2357175

Ggekko2009
09-18-19, 21:40
BUMP.

I visited M. O. Bar back in 2014 several times on lady's night. The girl's drinks are free so that is at least partial motivation for the girls to come. It was never overly crowded, tho I did go earlier in the evening, but I did meet a few nice ladies that made the stop worthwhile.

According to Facebook. MO bar still has lady's night on Tuesday and Thursday from 8 pm to 1 am.

Does anyone out there have an update or a recent visit?MO Bar is dead quiet when I last visited. Don't even bother going there.

Smoothy
09-18-19, 22:30
MO Bar is dead quiet when I last visited. Don't even bother going there.True, but it's not far from Taman Lawang.

Smoothy
09-19-19, 18:27
Beware that they are now adding a 30% tax on the final bill which surprised me the first time as I didn't experience it last year.As far as I know they always did that. Alexis did it as well. I think it's 21%, but it may well be 30%.

Cucumber
09-19-19, 22:35
Apparently they are trying to pass a new criminal code that would ban unmarried couples and a bunch of other things. Could this really happen? Could prostitution be banned (and actually stamped out in the form we know it) in Indonesia? My personal impression is that I see more and more hijabs, hear more and more calls for prayer, more and more people taking Ramadan serious etc in Jakarta, and although Indonesia obviously has a strong underlying liberal / chaotic streak, I wonder whether there could be a tipping point when the Islamists become so powerful that they actually succeed in getting control and strangling the country's spirit. Any insights from people who know more about Indonesian society and politics than I do would be appreciated.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/19/outcry-at-indonesia-draft-criminal-code-that-could-see-unmarried-couples-jailed

EatALotOpus
09-19-19, 23:39
Apparently they are trying to pass a new criminal code that would ban unmarried couples and a bunch of other things. Could this really happen? Could prostitution be banned (and actually stamped out in the form we know it) in Indonesia? My personal impression is that I see more and more hijabs, hear more and more calls for prayer, more and more people taking Ramadan serious etc in Jakarta, and although Indonesia obviously has a strong underlying liberal / chaotic streak, I wonder whether there could be a tipping point when the Islamists become so powerful that they actually succeed in getting control and strangling the country's spirit. Any insights from people who know more about Indonesian society and politics than I do would be appreciated.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/19/outcry-at-indonesia-draft-criminal-code-that-could-see-unmarried-couples-jailedWas watching Youtube last night and saw a video about that. There is a Muslim elected? Female that is trying to implement the sharia law when it comes to sex. She has some opposition. Not sure if it happens this year or next but the clouds are gathering for sure.

Hope I make it there before it happens.

Wish I could remember the video tittle.

Zippos
09-20-19, 02:02
I hardly doubt that, despite Female Muslim elected pushing for it! I don't think all those Perverted Elected Man won't just hold their dick and watch this lady passing it in to a law. I don't think it's going anywhere, specially this organized and thriving industry.


Apparently they are trying to pass a new criminal code that would ban unmarried couples and a bunch of other things. Could this really happen? Could prostitution be banned (and actually stamped out in the form we know it) in Indonesia? My personal impression is that I see more and more hijabs, hear more and more calls for prayer, more and more people taking Ramadan serious etc in Jakarta, and although Indonesia obviously has a strong underlying liberal / chaotic streak, I wonder whether there could be a tipping point when the Islamists become so powerful that they actually succeed in getting control and strangling the country's spirit. Any insights from people who know more about Indonesian society and politics than I do would be appreciated.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/19/outcry-at-indonesia-draft-criminal-code-that-could-see-unmarried-couples-jailed
Was watching Youtube last night and saw a video about that. There is a Muslim elected? Female that is trying to implement the sharia law when it comes to sex. She has some opposition. Not sure if it happens this year or next but the clouds are gathering for sure.

Hope I make it there before it happens.

Wish I could remember the video tittle.

SeaTraveler
09-20-19, 03:07
I am back for a visit in November.

As customers, spending our hard-earned money, we want what we want.

I am never a fan of the CBJ and on this trip I hope to avoid it at all costs. However, I am not good at coming out and discussing it in a bar (CJ'S / BATS) tho I have had good luck with BBBJ from the freelancers in the past.

But, I am going to try brothels like Classic, 1001 this time around and I've read enough reports to know BBBJ will be hit or miss. I don't speak Bahasa, so I was wondering how to get my point across to girls or mamasan as to what I want.

There is Google Translate and I downloaded that app to my phone with the Indonesian vocabulary. But that seems to be ponderous.

I have good video editing software. So I got some clips from Pornhub and created a 30 second video with French Kissing, BJ sans condom and sex all with Bahasa text across the screen. I would show the video from my phone and I don't think 30 seconds will bore anyone.

Any reason this won't work getting my point across?

Obviously it looks better as a video, but Screenshots attached.

Cheers, SEA Traveler.

Member #4698
09-20-19, 03:25
I am going to try brothels like Classic, 1001 this time around and I've read enough reports to know BBBJ will be hit or miss. My experience over multiple trips is that BBBJ's are a 60/40 probability in 1001 while BBBJ's are a 100% probability in Malioboro / Malio. In fact I can't recall ever NOT receiving a BBBJ in Malioboro / Malio along with some pretty wild sex, but I CAN recall being with 1001 & Alexis girls and being offered CBJ's, not a majority of the time, but too many times for me to tolerate. My modus operandi is simple: I never discuss the issue with the girl or the mamason beforehand. I just expect a BBBJ and get it most if not all the time. As a result, I never tip or repeat with a CBJ girl and I have cut down on my patronage of places where that sort of thing is allowed by the management - places like 1001.

So if you like BBBJ's ie they are high up on your list of services, I advise you to skip 1001 even though they have a hell of a lot of otherwise very attractive, YOUNG, Indo girls. Then again, if you are average to above average in looks and know how to make a girl smile, you have a roughly 60% shot in 1001 of receiving a BBBJ and a 90% shot for having decent sex, so take your chances and go for it if you want to. I would add that the odds of getting a BBBJ with a CJ's or Bat's FL is almost 100% like with Malioboro/ Malio girls. So it is not like Classic or 1001 are your only choices. There are many other great places to go in CGK to get what you want without a hassle.

Offshore Swell
09-20-19, 05:03
Hi there,

I used to go to Jakarta a lot back in 2014. While fancy places, brothels (like Hotel travel) and spas are all fun, I miss the adventures, seedy times back when Kalibojo was still open. The veterans may know what I am talking about. It gave me the kick to loaf around there (with almost no bules around) and just venture. Super local and cheap as fuck.

Does anyone know if such places (like Kalibojo) still exists and can trow in some names so I can research myself? Happy to RTFF but cannot get the right keywords / names to start.

Cheers,

Keengerle.PLTU Priok.

Rawa Malang.

Goferring
09-20-19, 05:25
Any reason this won't work getting my point across?

Obviously it looks better as a video, but Screenshots attached.

Cheers, SEA Traveler.I admire your preparation but fear you may have over thought any problems. Google translate is fraught with errors and often gives litteral, word for word translations that lose the meaning or context you are trying to get across. This may cause more problems than it solves. Eg your translation of Blow Job reads more as Breath Occupation so may not be of much assistance.

While the girls and mamasans may speak very little or no conversational English, they will know a few words pertaining to their job. 'No condom', 'Blow Job' and the like are understood in both languages so you will be able to get your point made.

I would follow Smoothy's recommendations on where BBBJ is a near certainty or, if other reasons see you at the other locations, just make use of simple English instructions and hand signals rather than pre prepared translations and videos.

Good luck and enjoy your visit, G.

Blanquiceleste
09-20-19, 15:33
I hardly doubt that, despite Female Muslim elected pushing for it! I don't think all those Perverted Elected Man won't just hold their dick and watch this lady passing it in to a law. I don't think it's going anywhere, specially this organized and thriving industry.Dude,

Please remember that all those perverted elected men do not go to Classic or Travel or Malio or Kota Indah or Kelapa Gading to get laid. Laws are for the general public, not for the men who pass them.

SeaTraveler
09-20-19, 15:51
I admire your preparation but fear you may have over thought any problems. Google translate is fraught with errors and often gives litteral, word for word translations that lose the meaning or context you are trying to get across. Eg your translation of Blow Job reads more as "Breath Occupation" so may not be of much assistance.

Good luck and enjoy your visit, G.THANKS for the advice.

Some of this preparation helps kill the time while I wait for November 5th to arrive. .

Is there a Bahasa equivalent for "blowjob"? And what is it.

Cheers, Sea Traveler.

Turgid
09-20-19, 16:40
Apparently they are trying to pass a new criminal code that would ban unmarried couples and a bunch of other things. Could this really happen? Could prostitution be banned (and actually stamped out in the form we know it) in Indonesia? My personal impression is that I see more and more hijabs, hear more and more calls for prayer, more and more people taking Ramadan serious etc in Jakarta, and although Indonesia obviously has a strong underlying liberal / chaotic streak, I wonder whether there could be a tipping point when the Islamists become so powerful that they actually succeed in getting control and strangling the country's spirit. Any insights from people who know more about Indonesian society and politics than I do would be appreciated.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/19/outcry-at-indonesia-draft-criminal-code-that-could-see-unmarried-couples-jailedThe latest is that the law is on hold.

"Indonesian President Joko Widodo has suspended a raft of draconian amendments to the country's criminal code that would ban sex outside marriage and limit other personal freedoms.
Key points:

The Government had been planning on bringing forward a vote on the new criminal code next week
But late on Friday, the Government said it would delay introducing the new laws
More than 6 million tourists visited Indonesia last year

The Indonesian Government had been planning to bring forward a vote on a new national criminal code as early as next week. Among other things, it would make it illegal to criticise the president, have sex outside of marriage, sell contraceptives and take away a women's rights to choose an abortion.

But late on Friday, Mr Widodo delayed the bill's passage until the new parliament is inaugurated next month, meaning debate and a vote will begin again."

Goferring
09-20-19, 17:38
Is there a Bahasa equivalent for "blowjob"? And what is it.

Cheers, Sea Traveler.Yes. Its 'Blow Job'. I'm not joking: for some reason 'Head Job' is seldom used nor understood.

Enjoy. G.

BkkVistor77
09-20-19, 19:31
Hi there,

I used to go to Jakarta a lot back in 2014. While fancy places, brothels (like Hotel travel) and spas are all fun, I miss the adventures, seedy times back when Kalibojo was still open. The veterans may know what I am talking about. It gave me the kick to loaf around there (with almost no bules around) and just venture. Super local and cheap as fuck.
Keengerle.Not sure about Jakarta but I went to a place like what you describe in Yogyjakarta last year, seedy as fuck but pretty exciting. Basically a bunch of tiny lanes with a zillion little karaoke bars, chicks sitting out on the stoop, and some dudes guarding the entry who tried to act tough but were super sweet when I said I just wanted to have a look. I didn't partake but it was a cool hang.

Google maps coordinates -7.790743, 110.362741.

Rob Jones
09-20-19, 23:21
Yes. Its 'Blow Job'. I'm not joking: for some reason 'Head Job' is seldom used nor understood.

Enjoy. G.I have heard Karaoke used as well, due to the position of the microphone when singing.

Smoothy
09-21-19, 01:28
Is there a Bahasa equivalent for "blowjob"? And what is it.Most understand blow job, but if they don't.

To say it very literally, "hisap kontol saya, tidak pakai kondom".

Or "sepong tidak pakai kondom".

Zippos
09-21-19, 02:05
What you are saying it's true but isn't also true that all these entertainment complex are owned by well connected and somewhat law makers? Despite lawmakers being above the law, wouldn't this hurt their wallet and bring them down under the law eventually!


Dude,

Please remember that all those perverted elected men do not go to Classic or Travel or Malio or Kota Indah or Kelapa Gading to get laid. Laws are for the general public, not for the men who pass them.

Tommy Suharto
09-21-19, 02:11
Not sure about Jakarta but I went to a place like what you describe in Yogyjakarta last year, seedy as fuck but pretty exciting. Basically a bunch of tiny lanes with a zillion little karaoke bars, chicks sitting out on the stoop, and some dudes guarding the entry who tried to act tough but were super sweet when I said I just wanted to have a look. I didn't partake but it was a cool hang.

Google maps coordinates -7.790743, 110.362741.Yes. Sarkem. Pasar Kembang in Jogja. Saritem in Bandung may still be active too. There are only a few pockets left in Jakarta, it will be nice if these can hold up, Since 10 years, it's been an active government policy to shutdown and terminate all lokalisasi's, across the country. And with the new bill coming up.. who knows. It must be said though, places like Kalijodo (kalibojo is a much better name, I agree.) are always mentioned here in a shroud of nostalgia, but the reality is that they largely cater for local men only. That's why they're dirt cheap. Us foreigners would hardly go there. Well, once or twice, maybe...

Tommy Suharto
09-21-19, 02:18
I am never a fan of the CBJ and on this trip I hope to avoid it at all costs.

Obviously it looks better as a video, but Screenshots attached.

Cheers, SEA Traveler.CBJ's. In Jakarta? Nooo..

Can't you just go to Blok M? Or what's left of it. Many girls speak some basic English in the blok, they would definitely understand 'blow job' and 'no condom'.

BTW. What happened to the VIP bar in the D's? Does it still exists? Blow job galore.

Goferring
09-21-19, 02:19
I have heard Karaoke used as well, due to the position of the microphone when singing.And 'rokok': smoking. There are a million others but BJ keeps it simple and works for those new to town.

I never did find out why the term 'Head Job' never worked (for me at least) 🤨.

Enjoy. G.

SeaTraveler
09-21-19, 04:19
I am visiting in November for 10 days. I am staying at Shangri-La and Mulia in case location impacts the times I should go.

I spent time reading the last 200 pages of the forum, so I did my due diligence.

I am asking for the best times to go to spas and brothels. I understand the freelance scene pretty well because I have lived it. No brothel experience other than Maribaya in 2014.

I want to stay unjet-lagged when I get home, so my general plan is to sleep from 8 am to 3-4 pm local time.

My plans include a mix of 3 Indo-Cupid dinner dates (+ who knows) and plenty of time at BATS & CJ'S.

I plan to visit Malioboro; Kings Cross; Kartika and Classic to try out the brothel scene as recommended by Smoothy, Goferring, Natty Bumpo and others.

What is / are the best times to visit these places or times to avoid, please. Be specific, if necessary, as each may have it own best time.

Cheers, SEA Traveler.

PS. My apologies if this info is in here somewhere. I am suffering from information overload!!!

Blanquiceleste
09-21-19, 12:07
I want to stay unjet-lagged when I get home, so my general plan is to sleep from 8 am to 3-4 pm local time.

What is / are the best times to visit these places or times to avoid, please. Be specific, if necessary, as each may have it own best time.

PS. My apologies if this info is in here somewhere. I am suffering from information overload!!!The information is certainly there on the forum in this thread, but it can easily get buried under the meaningless discussions.

You have the right plan in terms of catching up on sleep. Most of the brothels become operational by 3 pm, but don't really get going until 5 pm or later. Places like Classic, Travel and all the Kota Indah bars are to be avoided after 9 pm, unless you are OK with a cloud of cigarette smoke over your head, Plus these places get extremely crowded with local bakso sellers and ojek drivers all lining up to get a piece of cheap pussy. The girls are also overused by then.

On the other hand places in Kelapa Gading like King Cross or Sumo and Malio and other places like 1001, Emporivm, etc are best after 8 pm. Sumo is a full blown spa (so are the other places, except King Cross) so you can get there by 6 pm, relax in the pool, get a steam / sauna and then go upstairs, get a drink and check out the sexy shows, eyeball the talent and select a girl of your liking. In all these places the mami or papi will understand basic English and you can tell them exactly what you want. They have heard and seen it all before. These places are not as crowded mainly because of the price, and the fact that they charge you an entry fee, that keeps the riff raff out.

Hope you have a good time, get some reports in too.

BkkVistor77
09-21-19, 13:22
Us foreigners would hardly go there. Well, once or twice, maybe...I'd go back! Probably, actually hmmmm. I'm not easily scared off and have had sex in some really really seedy and dodgy places, but this place was probably the most extreme I've seen, hence I didn't partake even though there were some good looking women.

Goferring
09-26-19, 02:35
I'm a decades long exResident but have arrived back in Jakarta after a long absence and have been struck by some of the changes: peak hour and mid day traffic is no where near as bad as I remember it; air pollution has deteriorated to the point the city wasn't even visible from the airplane during landing; the mongerring scene has changed drastically with the arrival of online and web apps and the closure of many of the old bricks and mortar favourites; but the girls are still plentiful and beautiful. In many ways the tune has changed but the song remains the same. 😁.

I'm a pretty prolific user of online apps etc elsewhere so I set up a couple of local profiles and waited for a response. And I waited. And I waited. Response times were much slower than what I'm familiar with elsewhere but I do have to say that the quality of the girls is much higher than other countries' hook up apps. Many, many model quality girls were online and responding. If you like the Asian priorites of tall, China white skin, long black hair then Jakarta is the place for you. Meetups were restricted by mongers' worst nightmares: jobs and morals. Many of the better girls clearly led civilian lives and were not going to jump into bed with 5 minutes notice. I was also limited by the requirement of many of the girls to have verified pictures. For various reasons, I'm not prepared to have my true photos displayed publically on hook up apps so that did limit access to a lot of girls.

The first girl I met online was tall, slim and the typical long black hair. In all honesty she was probably 5 or 10 lbs heavier than her photos but that came as no surprise. Unwilling to come straight to the room, we met at the lobby, had a cheap dinner and then she was happy to come upstairs. A very nice body with solid CC cups but very inexperienced. Relaxed but beginners BBBJ and BBFS COTs was rewarded with 1 jt taxi money.

That night saw a trip to Blok M and My Bar. What a depressing sight. The place of so many wild nights and fond memories is now a deserted lane with barely a couple of cars parked out front. Gone are the hustle and bustle of street urchins, hundreds of girls outside eating at the cholera carts and numerous bars beconing you in for a night of fun and debauchery.

At 3 am, My bar had the pretty dancers up on stage doing a good job of shaking their asses. The crowd was light but polarised: a combination of 30+ yo's with a sprinkling of Pretty Young Things. I'd agree with previous posters: over the night I probably saw 5 lookers that were eminently doable amongst the many that were well past their prime. I did laugh when I first entered and the hardened sharks pounced on the new face in town only to be met by a Bahasa speaking old hand who wasn't about to buy rounds of drinks and fall in love with the first brown body to slide next to him. Missing out on an easy mark, they looked so disappointed when I told them that I had been in country longer than them!! Mindful of keeping up appearances I left alone at about 4:30.

I'm staying at the FX Sudirman apartments. For a traveler its great: near many eating and shopping options; lots of transport options; in apartment washer. For mongering it's not so great: a major walk of shame via the mall or busy reception; a maze to get in and out of after FX closes and access gates are locked; close to Blok M and CJs but miles from Kota et al.

If anyone is in town and would like to swap lies over a midday coffee or night time beer just PM me.

To be continued, G.

Zippos
09-26-19, 15:29
Well, it looks very serious now specially with the on going protest! Apparently, there has been 5 k riot police deployed due to the protests? I really hope this bill doesn't turnout in to a law!

Boots one the ground, how bad is it right now?


Dude,

Please remember that all those perverted elected men do not go to Classic or Travel or Malio or Kota Indah or Kelapa Gading to get laid. Laws are for the general public, not for the men who pass them.

JamesXFisher
09-27-19, 20:34
I am typically in Jakarta every couple of months, though tbh I'm quite glad my October trip has been canceled (for entirely unrelated reasons).

Looking forward to January though, planning to spend a few days in Bali with a sweet thing. Fingers crossed I'll not have to marry her first.

Enjoylife1980
09-28-19, 10:32
Hello, we still have time apparently.

"Even if the new laws are passed next week the changes would take two years to come into effect. ".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-20/indonesia-set-to-outlaw-sex-before-marriage-affecting-tourists/11532328

Stykler
09-28-19, 22:14
Does anyone know if there is an entry price to get into Illigals and if so, what is it? Also if anyone has experiences at both Malio and Illigals, which is the best choice if someone only had one night to play?

Thanks heaps.

Vrsabien
09-29-19, 00:26
Does anyone know if there is an entry price to get into Illigals and if so, what is it? Also if anyone has experiences at both Malio and Illigals, which is the best choice if someone only had one night to play?

Thanks heaps.Yes illegal has entry fee. I remember doing the math and considering Malio better value for money and much larger selection.

If you are keen on Illegal then a cheaper option is to stay there which gives one free entry and discount on girls to your room however all services end but midnight or 1 am.

I think I might have written a review sometime this year about illegal.

If I had choice I would take Malio due to variety both in price and girls. Most expensive girls are in first building with stage on right side, but opposite is M bar with girls much cheaper and good selection, then the club in other building is good with different prices, I think start at 1,300,000.

Stykler
09-30-19, 07:41
Yes illegal has entry fee. I remember doing the math and considering Malio better value for money and much larger selection.

{Snip}

If I had choice I would take Malio due to variety both in price and girls. Most expensive girls are in first building with stage on right side, but opposite is M bar with girls much cheaper and good selection, then the club in other building is good with different prices, I think start at 1,300,000.Thanks Vrsabien for the intel.

KeenGerle
09-30-19, 17:38
First of all. Thanks everyone for their pointers.


Glad to hear that you are happy to research and RTFF yourself, you don't need any names just start from page one and proceed from there but sure if you want me to throw you a name as opposed to trow then Tamen Lawang.While I RTFF and heard of some of the places, I couldn't connect the dots initially. So thanks for throwing (not trowing as MutantChicken rightly noticed) in the names.


PLTU Priok / Rawa MalangThanks for the info OS. I had to postpone this due to exciting reasons later in my report.

My schedule was as following:

1st night: late arrival, stay somewhere cheap in Koto. Fun in North Jakarta.

2nd day: move to the South, stay in a nice 5 star and go with the flow.

3rd day: stay in Central but explore the train tracks in the North.

Things turned out to be different.

Smoothie thankfully pointed to MasBuke's post and it appeared to be something similar to what Kalijodo used to be).


http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2357175&viewfull=1#post2357175While I was super excited to explore the train tracks, I decided to stick with my initial plan (see above). Arrived on a weekday 10 pm-ish and went straight to Kota, Mangga Besar and stayed in a cheap hotel. In the past, I used to go to one of the sidestreets close to Hotel Travel where pimps have 2.3 vans with hot young chicks. Once you approach, they turn on the light in the van, you pick one, they bring you to one of the cheap hotels around, you have fun. All good. I have done this a few times and had quite some nice, young girls there (price around 300 k + 100 k room). This time, however, the selection wasn't as great as it used to be in the past. Against better judgement, I decided for one with a cute face. Pimp wasn't willing to go with the usual 300 k and I (stupidly) paid 400 k. To balance off the higher price, I brought her to my place which was only a 3 min walk anyway. To cut a long story short, the girl was weird. No touching boobs, no kissing boobs, no kissing pussy. Basically nothing. Went in, pumped a few times and realized that this is a waste of time (and sperm) and send her home.

Being super excited (and curious) about the train tracks, I took a grab bike and headed over.

While I am really bad with directions, I have no idea how others cannot find this place. It is suuuuper easy. I started with the small shop on the right side of the entrance area (basically before the bridge) but wasn't really impressed by the girls. While there were plenty, majority were just fat. I prefer the skinny ones (rather small boobs than having big boobs but belly, big ass, whatever). So none of the girls I saw were acceptable. However, when I went through one of the holes to the train track, it was on. OMG. This was exactly what I was looking for. For long time. Super seedy, local, different kind of girls (definitely some for my liking). Cheap (150 k - 200 k) and straight to the point (no bla bla BS). Perfect. Had two slim nice girls (first one was early 20,150 k, no BJ and straight to CFJ). No issues with anything such as kissing boobs, touching. Second girl was in the same a

Smoothy
10-01-19, 06:28
Being super excited (and curious) about the train tracks, I took a grab bike and headed over.

While I am really bad with directions, I have no idea how others cannot find this place. It is suuuuper easy. I started with the small shop on the right side of the entrance area (basically before the bridge) but wasn't really impressed by the girls. While there were plenty, majority were just fat. I prefer the skinny ones (rather small boobs than having big boobs but belly, big ass, whatever). So none of the girls I saw were acceptable. However, when I went through one of the holes to the train track, it was on. OMG. This was exactly what I was looking for. For long time. Super seedy, local, different kind of girls (definitely some for my liking). Cheap (150 k - 200 k) and straight to the point (no bla bla BS). Perfect. Had two slim nice girls (first one was early 20,150 k, no BJ and straight to CFJ). No issues with anything such as kissing boobs, touching. Second girl was in the same aGlad to hear you gave that a try. Fun place, isn't it? And the cheapest action in Jakarta.

KeenGerle
10-01-19, 14:36
Looks that my report 14684 is half cut-off.

Could an OP kind help me to delete it? I will re-post (probably in sections to avoid the same problem again).

Thanks a lot.

DelBosque
10-01-19, 20:54
Being super excited (and curious) about the train tracks, I took a grab bike and headed over.

While I am really bad with directions, I have no idea how others cannot find this place. It is suuuuper easy. I started with the small shop on the right side of the entrance area (basically before the bridge) but wasn't really impressed by the girls. While there were plenty, majority were just fat. I prefer the skinny ones (rather small boobs than having big boobs but belly, big ass, whatever). So none of the girls I saw were acceptable. However, when I went through one of the holes to the train track, it was on. OMG. This was exactly what I was looking for. For long time. Super seedy, local, different kind of girls (definitely some for my liking). Cheap (150 k - 200 k) and straight to the point (no bla bla BS). Perfect. Had two slim nice girls (first one was early 20,150 k, no BJ and straight to CFJ). No issues with anything such as kissing boobs, touching. Second girl was in the same aSuper info, very curious too, I follow your steps next month!!

KeenGerle
10-02-19, 15:30
Looks that my report 14684 is half cut-off.
Could an OP kind help me to delete it? I will re-post (probably in sections to avoid the same problem again).
Thanks a lot.OK. Looks that my old (broken) report is still there, so I'll split my report into three parts.

First of all. Thanks everyone for their pointers.


Glad to hear that you are happy to research and RTFF yourself, you don't need any names just start from page one and proceed from there but sure if you want me to throw you a name as opposed to trow then Tamen Lawang.While I RTFF and heard of some of the places, I couldn't connect the dots initially. So thanks for throwing (not trowing as MutantChicken rightly noticed) in the names.


PLTU Priok / Rawa MalangThanks for the info OS. I had to postpone this due to exciting reasons later in my report.

My schedule was as following:

1st night: late arrival, stay somewhere cheap in Koto. Fun in North Jakarta.

2nd day: move to the South, stay in a nice 5 star and go with the flow.

3rd day: stay in Central but explore the train tracks in the North.

Things turned out to be different.

Smoothie thankfully pointed to MasBuke's post and it appeared to be something similar to what Kalijodo used to be).


http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2357175&viewfull=1#post2357175While I was super excited to explore the train tracks, I decided to stick with my initial plan (see above). Arrived on a weekday 10 pm-ish and went straight to Kota, Mangga Besar and stayed in a cheap hotel. In the past, I used to go to one of the sidestreets close to Hotel Travel where pimps have 2. 3 vans with hot young chicks. Once you approach, they turn on the light in the van, you pick one, they bring you to one of the cheap hotels around, you have fun. All good. I have done this a few times and had quite some nice, young girls there (price around 300 k + 100 k room). This time, however, the selection wasn't as great as it used to be in the past. Against better judgement, I decided for one with a cute face. Pimp wasn't willing to go with the usual 300 k and I (stupidly) paid 400 k. To balance off the higher price, I brought her to my place which was only a 3 min walk anyway. To cut a long story short, the girl was weird. No touching boobs, no kissing boobs, no kissing pussy. Basically nothing. Went in, pumped a few times and realized that this is a waste of time (and sperm) and send her home.

Being super excited (and curious) about the train tracks, I took a grab bike and headed over.

While I am really bad with directions, I have no idea how others CANNOT find this place. It is suuuuper easy. I started with the small shop on the right side of the entrance area (basically before the bridge) but wasn't really impressed by the girls. While there were plenty, majority were just fat. I prefer the skinny ones (rather small boobs than having big boobs but belly, big ass, whatever). So none of the girls I saw were acceptable. However, when I went through one of the holes to the train track, it was on. OMG. This was exactly what I was looking for. For long time. Super seedy, local, different kind of girls (definitely some for my liking). Cheap (150 k - 200 k) and straight to the point (no bla bla BS). Perfect. Had two slim nice girls (first one was early 20,150 k, no BJ and straight to CFJ). No issues with anything such as kissing boobs, touching. Second girl was in the same age group, nice BBBJ and good CFJ for 200 k). Left happily back to my cheap place in Kota.

KeenGerle
10-02-19, 15:33
Next morning, went to my nice hotel in the South, early check in, breakfast and worked from there (it was a weekday). Although I was horny in the evening, laziness kicked in. I also don't fancy Blok M too much (and latest reports don't sound promising neither), so I stayed home and chilled. Next morning / early noon, I took a Grab bike back to the train tracks.

While I was also keen to explore this


PLTU Priok / Rawa MalangThe first night was still too good. The situation at noon (and as I later learned during the day) is very different. There is almost nothing happening. After waiting a bit, I nailed a girl that was somewhat decent (slim, 19 years old, 200 k) but nothing close to what I experienced on my first night.

I went back to my hotel in the South, chilled a bit (I had agreed on late checkout) and moved to my other hotel in Central Jakarta. Went again to the train tracks around 9 pm and it was super crowded. Another two girls (first one 24 years old, no BJ but good CFJ and second one 19 years old. What was a bit surprising is that she didn't seem to have any intention of using a condom and was about to guide in without. Wtf. Stopped her, put on my own condom (I always bring my own) and had some good fun). What a great night. I love the atmosphere there. Super seedy. From time to time, everyone jumps off the tracks when a train is approaching and once the train passed by, everything goes back to business.

KeenGerle
10-02-19, 15:53
Third day, passed by the train tracks while on the way to the airport (around 6 pm. I had lots of buffer before my flight) and again. Quite empty. While walking next to the tracks, I could hear the horn of a train approaching and say a young guy (or a teenager) running on the tracks (he was coming from the east side and was on the bridge that leads over the road). The train was super close and he was still running ON the tracks. I wasn't sure if I should continue watching or just look away. It was almost certain that he will get killed. Only in the very last second (after he reached the end of the bridge), he jumped off. Fuck! No idea what is going on in some peoples' mind. Not only that this guy would have impacted his own family, I wonder how I would have reacted. This is nothing easy to overcome (and you cannot even tell your regular friends of what you have seen, as well. "where did this happen" - exactly). Thank god.

Overall. It was an amazing trip, I loved the train tracks and I will be heading to Jakarta in a few days again. To return to the train tracks but also to explore:


PLTU Priok / Rawa Malang

KeenGerle
10-02-19, 15:57
Glad to hear you gave that a try. Fun place, isn't it? And the cheapest action in Jakarta.Yes. Man. So happy (otherwise I wouldn't head back to Jakarta coming weekend). Honestly, it is not necessarily about the price but the entire atmosphere. I get that it is not for everyone.

But that's ok. For me, I really enjoy it. Super unique experience. I now have the dilemma of choices. Either continue all the time to the train tracks again or visit the other places (PLTU Priok / Rawa Malang) that were mentioned. That's a tricky one.

Wet Nose
10-02-19, 19:01
I'm a pretty prolific user of online apps etc elsewhere so I set up a couple of local profiles and waited for a response. And I waited. And I waited. Response times were much slower than what I'm familiar with elsewhere but I do have to say that the quality of the girls is much higher than other countries' hook up apps. Many, many model quality girls were online and responding. If you like the Asian priorites of tall, China white skin, long black hair then Jakarta is the place for you. Meetups were restricted by mongers' worst nightmares: jobs and morals. Many of the better girls clearly led civilian lives and were not going to jump into bed with 5 minutes notice. I was also limited by the requirement of many of the girls to have verified pictures. For various reasons, I'm not prepared to have my true photos displayed publically on hook up apps so that did limit access to a lot of girls.

To be continued, G.Which app did you find most effective? Seeking arrangement? I haven't been back to Jakarta since 2010 but want to go back. Much appreciated, thank you.

Goferring
10-02-19, 22:32
Which app did you find most effective? Seeking arrangement? I haven't been back to Jakarta since 2010 but want to go back. Much appreciated, thank you.I didn't use many. Just Badoo and Tinder. Tinder had the better looking girls but Badoo had better responses.

I couldn't complete the WeChat install because of its new referal requirements and several apps (Inc Badoo) needed photos to be verified, something you may or may not be prepared to do. I didn't use the match making apps like IndoCupid etc.

In all honesty, with all the face to face options, I would recommend those over the apps as you can see before you buy and there can be a much more satisfying social element to them.

Enjoy. G.

Member #4698
10-02-19, 23:31
I didn't use many. Just Badoo and Tinder. Tinder had the better looking girls but Badoo had better responses.

In all honesty, with all the face to face options, I would recommend those over the apps as you can see before you buy and there can be a much more satisfying social element to them.

Bingo! This is how I feel too, but the social apps are here to stay. They are just one more venue from which to source girls. Can't rule it out completely.

OldSnake
10-03-19, 00:28
Hello, we still have time apparently.

"Even if the new laws are passed next week the changes would take two years to come into effect. ".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-20/indonesia-set-to-outlaw-sex-before-marriage-affecting-tourists/11532328https://xhamster.desi/videos/my-wife-first-time-with-bbc-8524728

Goferring
10-03-19, 00:34
Bingo! This is how I feel too, but the social apps are here to stay. They are just one more venue from which to source girls. Can't rule it out completely.I think it depends on what mongers are looking for. A pump and dump can be quickly found either online or in the flesh. If, like me, you prefer a few beers, chatting to guys and gals then heading home with Ms CloseEnough, then in the flesh is generally better.

My previous post comes across as unkind to MyBar but it was actually a good night: not a sea of beauties but certainly entertaining and, if you wait for the right moment, the occasional cutie that was very doable.

Enjoy. G.

John Auro
10-03-19, 02:45
Dear Keen.

I was fascinated by the report of Alex from 2001. And about 15 years ago I tried to find it in Jakarta went to Kota Station, but was unsuccessful to find anything, actually I was standing at the station but I was hesitating asking anybody on the street for these girls.

Now I see your report, but again no success on googlemaps, it already starts with the fact that when seeing Kota station on the map, "direction WEST" is not available on google maps. I was looking for "jl Bebek Selatan" but it seems not to be close to Kota station at all. You have any other help for me to find the place? I am not in Jakarta now but in Yogyakarta. Thanks john.

- - - - - -.

WSG from March 8 2001, Another excellent place to find cheap street girls (and transsexuals) is the area in front of the main railway station in the east of the town (you'll pass and make a stop-over here if you take the train to Bandung) and the railway tracks leading eastward. A ten-minute walk eastward from the railway station brings you to an area with lots of parked train wagons. Here you find girls all day but especially at night there are tens of them. They are usually young (late teens, early twenties, but some oldies) and the cheapest in town. Some you can fuck for not more than the price of a bottle of coke. You can fuck them in or in between the empty train wagons.

It's quite a thrill.

Walk around a bit and you see people fucking all over the place. The girls will come to you and do just about anything you want. I once fucked a mute girl in her early twenties in her ass there. They are shameless and let you fuck them in full view of others. Another cheap thrill, but of course you can hide in the trains if you are a less perverted type.

There are many more of these types of places all around Jakarta, but this should give you enough pleasure to last for your trip there. Feel free to email me for tips. Alex.

(Review # 3262).

Turgid
10-03-19, 20:01
Third day, passed by the train tracks while on the way to the airport (around 6 pm. I had lots of buffer before my flight) and again. Quite empty. While walking next to the tracks, I could hear the horn of a train approaching and say a young guy (or a teenager) running on the tracks (he was coming from the east side and was on the bridge that leads over the road). The train was super close and he was still running ON the tracks. I wasn't sure if I should continue watching or just look away. It was almost certain that he will get killed. Only in the very last second (after he reached the end of the bridge), he jumped off................Kudos to you, most people would have pulled out their phone and videotaped it.

Tommy Suharto
10-05-19, 05:04
Now I see your report, but again no success on googlemaps, it already starts with the fact that when seeing Kota station on the map, "direction WEST" is not available on google maps. I was looking for "jl Bebek Selatan" but it seems not to be close to Kota station at all. You have any other help for me to find the place? I am not in Jakarta now but in Yogyakarta. Thanks john.
This may help:

https://goo.gl/maps/Qfu7hcoz5gMoBwN9A

That's were Royal is, ie. The location of the report from MasBule.
If the link doesn't work, type in "gedong panjang royal' in Google search.

If you are in Yogya, try Pasar Kembang.


Dear Keen.

I was fascinated by the report of Alex from 2001. And about 15 years ago I tried to find it in Jakarta went to Kota Station, but was unsuccessful to find anything, actually I was standing at the station but I was hesitating asking anybody on the street for these girls.

- - - - - -.

WSG from March 8 2001, Another excellent place to find cheap street girls (and transsexuals) is the area in front of the main railway station in the east of the town (you'll pass and make a stop-over here if you take the train to Bandung) and the railway tracks leading eastward. A ten-minute walk eastward from the railway station brings you to an area with lots of parked train wagons. Here you find girls all day but especially at night there are tens of them. They are usually young (late teens, early twenties, but some oldies) and the cheapest in town. Some you can fuck for not more than the price of a bottle of coke. You can fuck them in or in between the empty train wagons.

It's quite a thrill.

Walk around a bit and you see people fucking all over the place. The girls will come to you and do just about anything you want. I once fucked a mute girl in her early twenties in her ass there. They are shameless and let you fuck them in full view of others. Another cheap thrill, but of course you can hide in the trains if you are a less perverted type.

There are many more of these types of places all around Jakarta, but this should give you enough pleasure to last for your trip there. Feel free to email me for tips. Alex.

(Review # 3262).Back in those days, Manggerai, likely. It is not in the Kota, but in east - https://goo.gl/maps/dapftS7LDM2mqpSA8/..

But as it is already 18 years old, not sure really. He mentions transsexuals, could have been pasar pisang. 'Banana market'. That's at Jatinegara Train Station, one train station down from Manggerai. From the station walk in easterly direction a long the tracks. 'Super seedy'. Daytime action there can also be found at Jl Bekasi, opposite the station.

https://goo.gl/maps/x3n1rcZVUzdJqZvG6

Pesing in West Jakarta and Tanah Abang are other train track locations.

Enzo2019
10-07-19, 12:59
Hi all,

Firstly I'the like to thank all the BM who have contributed to this forum, it's made my first visit to Jakarta so much easier.

So I arrived in Jakarta last night, by the time I arrived at the hotel it was around 10:30 pm and I was too tired to contemplate any activities. Wandered up to the top floor lounge and had a seriously overpriced beer at 120 k, won't be going in there again.

Today I made my way to Classic Hotel at 1 pm, sat down at the ground floor cafe and had a strong black coffee. RTFF and saw that the action at the 2nd floor does not start until 3 pm so I just caught up on some emails in between gathering intel already posted here. So the cafe level is the ground floor, up one floor is 1st, up another is 2nd, I initially only went up one floor and wondered why I couldn't find anything of interest. Arrive at the entrance and I'm prompted that there is a 20 or 30 k minimum spend (can't remember how much exactly) to which I agree, I'm given a numbered elasticated wrist band and shown inside the show area.

The place is surprisingly big and as expected a mamasam invites me to sit down and immediately calls upon her 3 girls dressed in red. All were very doable and I tell mama that I'm going to have a drink first and relax, she sends her girls away but immediately brings one of the girls back. The girl was nice and could speak decent English so we chatted while I sipped my drink. The girl suggests that I take another girl for a 3 sum to which I decline but she tries to sell it by telling me the following -.

1 girl = 365 k, 1 hour, 1 shot.

2 girls =500 k, 90 minutes, 2 shots.

Again I decline and we continue chatting. During my time at the cafe downstairs I read that some BM felt that some girls were being forced to work here against their own will. At no time did I get this impression from this girl and she was smiling, chatting and friendly the whole time. I looked around at some of the other girls available and there were plenty of cuties but for my first session in Jakarta I decided to keep the girl I already had due to her friendly disposition and decent English speaking skills. I find communication somewhat important for a good session no matter where I am in the world. The girl calls mama over and she writes up my bill of 365 k and the girl leads me down to the rooms.

Service was very GFE, no time wasted with a massage, she was receptive to my requests and really went with the flow, the only boundary I encountered was that she did not want any fingers inside her. We used the full 60 minutes for easily the best paid session I've had in a while, after a shower I left a couple of red bills underneath her watch on the table. She looks and exclaims "only one?" To which I answered "you want two? She says "yes" and I pretend to do a magic trick and tell her to look again, she finds the notes and says "do again" while being clearly amused. I tell her "next time" and she asks "when?" so I spin her a little lie that I'll return after work tomorrow night. She tells me to come at 5 pm and wait for her and that she will be sitting at her usual couch with the red uniformed girls. On the way back upstairs she asks me to take her number so that I can call her if I did not want to return to Classic, I pass her my phone and she punches in her digits and we bid each other farewell. Pretty sure I read on here that at least one BM felt that the girls here were "controlled" and that they would not be able to meet clients out with work, clearly not true IME and confirms that this girl at least has freedom of will.

Great start to my first visit to Jakarta, will do a gym session later then probably check out Malio as frequently reported and recommended on here. I hope this post helps other first timers planning a trip to Classic and again, many thanks to all past contributors who have helped me gain insight into the scene here.

Cheers.

Goferring
10-07-19, 14:48
After walking around town for a few days, I was in need of a massage so decided to combine one with our favourite hobby. A soapy at Kartika was deemed to be well in order.

Unfortunately, I couldn't remember exactly where it was and Google / Grab list 3 Kartika Massages near Hayam Waruk, none of them the right one. The correct location is not listed at all so I don't know what they did to piiss of the Google Gods. I was the proverbial guy that couldn't get laid in a brothel, driving around in circles, lost, long enough for Maps to flatten the battery of my cell phone. Back to the hotel room to do some more research and find out wtf is going on: yes, it is still open; yes it's along H Waruk; it's in the same alley as Berlian and Berlian is on the map. Off we go for attempt 2.

Sure enough we easily find Berlian and Kartika is there, plain as day, a couple of doors down. At 6 pm there are two Indonesian guys at the bar and about 10 girls in the lounges. None are stunners so I have a drink and wait to see if better options appear. Nothing does and after making so much effort to get here, there is no way I'm backing out.

I kid myself that the girl in blue is a diamond in the rough, prepay 380 k inc my drink and upstairs we go. The massage is actually pretty good on my old frame, progressing from a regular rub down to a two sided body rub. Then it was a CBJ and CFS. I got the job done, she was pleasant and chatty (in Indonesian) during the massage but it wasn't an earth shattering session. I did complain about both prepayment and the CBJ but to be honest, I didn't put up too much of a fight.

At the price I can't argue much. I got a shot away. She was no 19 yo stunner but wasn't ugly either. I would have paid the same amount just for the massage elsewhere and that alone was pretty good.

I'm leaving Jakarta soon so if this trip was an attempt to relive fond memories of wild times it was a bit of a bust. I did enjoy returning but it is a different town. Bricks and mortar fun palaces have receded and online delivery of exceptionally pretty girls are in the process of taking their place. Some will miss the old ways and some will thrive in the new marketplace.

Enjoy. G.

DelBosque
10-07-19, 20:37
Hi all,

Today I made my way to Classic Hotel at 1 pm, sat down at the ground floor cafe and had a strong black coffee. RTFF and saw that the action at the 2nd floor does not start until 3 pm so I just caught up on some emails in between gathering intel already posted here. So the cafe level is the ground floor, up one floor is 1st, up another is 2nd, I initially only went up one floor and wondered why I couldn't find anything of interest. Arrive at the entrance and I'm prompted that there is a 20 or 30 k minimum spend (can't remember how much exactly) to which I agree, I'm given a numbered elasticated wrist band and shown inside the show area.

The place is surprisingly big and as expected a mamasam invites me to sit down and immediately calls upon her 3 girls dressed in red. All were very doable and I tell mama that I'm going to have a drink first and relax, she sends her girls away but immediately brings one of the girls back. The girl was nice and could speak decent English so we chatted while I sipped my drink. The girl suggests that I take another girl for a 3 sum to which I decline but she tries to sell it by telling me the following -.

1 girl = 365 k, 1 hour, 1 shot.

2 girls =500 k, 90 minutes, 2 shots.

Cheers.Funny, clear ans usefull report, thanks Enzo.

BenderOver
10-07-19, 23:58
Hi all,

Firstly I'the like to thank all the BM who have contributed to this forum, it's made my first visit to Jakarta so much easier.

So I arrived in Jakarta last night, by the time I arrived at the hotel it was around 10:30 pm and I was too tired to contemplate any activities. Wandered up to the top floor lounge and had a seriously overpriced beer at 120 k, won't be going in there again.

Today I made my way to Classic Hotel at 1 pm, sat down at the ground floor cafe and had a strong black coffee. RTFF and saw that the action at the 2nd floor does not start until 3 pm so I just caught up on some emails in between gathering intel already posted here. So the cafe level is the ground floor, up one floor is 1st, up another is 2nd, I initially only went up one floor and wondered why I couldn't find anything of interest. Arrive at the entrance and I'm prompted that there is a 20 or 30 k minimum spend (can't remember how much exactly) to which I agree, I'm given a numbered elasticated wrist band and shown inside the show area.

The place is surprisingly big and as expected a mamasam invites me to sit down and immediately calls upon her 3 girls dressed in red. All were very doable and I tell mama that I'm going to have a drink first and relax, she sends her girls away but immediately brings one of the girls back. The girl was nice and could speak decent English so we chatted while I sipped my drink. The girl suggests that I take another girl for a 3 sum to which I decline but she tries to sell it by telling me the following -.

1 girl = 365 k, 1 hour, 1 shot.

2 girls =500 k, 90 minutes, 2 shots.

Again I decline and we continue chatting. During my time at the cafe downstairs I read that some BM felt that some girls were being forced to work here against their own will. At no time did I get this impression from this girl and she was smiling, chatting and friendly the whole time. I looked around at some of the other girls available and there were plenty of cuties but for my first session in Jakarta I decided to keep the girl I already had due to her friendly disposition and decent English speaking skills. I find communication somewhat important for a good session no matter where I am in the world. The girl calls mama over and she writes up my bill of 365 k and the girl leads me down to the rooms.

Service was very GFE, no time wasted with a massage, she was receptive to my requests and really went with the flow, the only boundary I encountered was that she did not want any fingers inside her. We used the full 60 minutes for easily the best paid session I've had in a while, after a shower I left a couple of red bills underneath her watch on the table. She looks and exclaims "only one?" To which I answered "you want two? She says "yes" and I pretend to do a magic trick and tell her to look again, she finds the notes and says "do again" while being clearly amused. I tell her "next time" and she asks "when?" so I spin her a little lie that I'll return after work tomorrow night. She tells me to come at 5 pm and wait for her and that she will be sitting at her usual couch with the red uniformed girls. On the way back upstairs she asks me to take her number so that I can call her if I did not want to return to Classic, I pass her my phone and she punches in her digits and we bid each other farewell. Pretty sure I read on here that at least one BM felt that the girls here were "controlled" and that they would not be able to meet clients out with work, clearly not true IME and confirms that this girl at least has freedom of will.

Great start to my first visit to Jakarta, will do a gym session later then probably check out Malio as frequently reported and recommended on here. I hope this post helps other first timers planning a trip to Classic and again, many thanks to all past contributors who have helped me gain insight into the scene here.

Cheers.They're controlled.

First, it's debt labor. They owe 5 to 10 million rupiah to the boss. For this debt, their KTP (Indonesian ID) is kept in the office and not returned. They make 90 k per session plus your tip. Every month, they pay amount 2 million for a shithole to live in, 3 to 4 million for makeup, work provided transportation, interest, and fees. The rest is their spending money and food money, which is usually negative one million per month. So you can see where this is going. They get the negative one million covered by borrowing more from the boss each month.

The boss watches over the girls by means that they don't get days off and even if they get a day off, they're called in surprise to work. During their off time, they come and go as they please but they're not supposed to see guys on the side because it takes the boss out of the loop of income. They still do if they're brave enough to.

I've found a stunner before and she kept saying no she couldn't meet. But sure enough when you offer to give a new cell phone (about 3 to 4 million IDR) they're immediately available. I ended up buying her out of her indentured servitude and sent her home back to her family.

Happy hunting.

Stykler
10-08-19, 02:46
So I arrived in Jakarta last night, by the time I arrived at the hotel it was around 10:30 pm and I was too tired to contemplate any activities. Wandered up to the top floor lounge and had a seriously overpriced beer at 120 k, won't be going in there again.Great report, and very useful info. I assume you are staying at the Grand Mercure Harmoni?

Enzo2019
10-08-19, 04:21
They're controlled.

First, it's debt labor. They owe 5 to 10 million rupiah to the boss. For this debt, their KTP (Indonesian ID) is kept in the office and not returned. They make 90 k per session plus your tip. Every month, they pay amount 2 million for a shithole to live in, 3 to 4 million for makeup, work provided transportation, interest, and fees. The rest is their spending money and food money, which is usually negative one million per month. So you can see where this is going. They get the negative one million covered by borrowing more from the boss each month.

Happy hunting.With multiple mamasams and groups of girls, is the situation the same for them all?


Great report, and very useful info. I assume you are staying at the Grand Mercure Harmoni?Thanks and yes. Avoid their "Sky Lounge" or whatever it's called, food at the restaurant was very good though. I noticed they have a men's spa, had a quick look through the glass doors and saw 2 female workers and a pool table, will check it out later today.

Cheers.

Smoothy
10-08-19, 06:38
They're controlled.

First, it's debt labor. They owe 5 to 10 million rupiah to the boss. For this debt, their KTP (Indonesian ID) is kept in the office and not returned. They make 90 k per session plus your tip. Every month, they pay amount 2 million for a shithole to live in, 3 to 4 million for makeup, work provided transportation, interest, and fees. The rest is their spending money and food money, which is usually negative one million per month. So you can see where this is going. They get the negative one million covered by borrowing more from the boss each month.

The boss watches over the girls by means that they don't get days off and even if they get a day off, they're called in surprise to work. During their off time, they come and go as they please but they're not supposed to see guys on the side because it takes the boss out of the loop of income. They still do if they're brave enough to.

I've found a stunner before and she kept saying no she couldn't meet. But sure enough when you offer to give a new cell phone (about 3 to 4 million IDR) they're immediately available. I ended up buying her out of her indentured servitude and sent her home back to her family.

Happy hunting.You are exactly right here. Even when those girls give you their number (they will all give you their number), the chances of them actually meeting outside working at a place like Classic are slim. The exception are the dancers, they will meet up. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's rare for a girl who works there as an indentured prostitute to meet up. They are controlled and would be taking a risk. Personally, I don't see the need anyway. Those girls are rarely as fun to hang out with as the actual free lancers one can find around town.

Getting the girl's number was no achievement. But if she actually does meet outside hotel Classic, I would love to read a detailed report on how that went. My experiences with girls like that have always been interesting to say the least (in a bad way). The fact that I don't even try it anymore speaks volumes. If one does it, please don't share photos or give her name though because she might get in trouble for doing that.

Smoothy
10-08-19, 06:49
I kid myself that the girl in blue is a diamond in the rough, prepay 380 k inc my drink and upstairs we go. The massage is actually pretty good on my old frame, progressing from a regular rub down to a two sided body rub. Then it was a CBJ and CFS. I got the job done, she was pleasant and chatty (in Indonesian) during the massage but it wasn't an earth shattering session. I did complain about both prepayment and the CBJ but to be honest, I didn't put up too much of a fight.

I'm leaving Jakarta soon so if this trip was an attempt to relive fond memories of wild times it was a bit of a bust. I did enjoy returning but it is a different town. Bricks and mortar fun palaces have receded and online delivery of exceptionally pretty girls are in the process of taking their place. Some will miss the old ways and some will thrive in the new marketplace. I haven't been to Kartika since around 2007. But the last time I was there, I took two girls and it was one of the most unique experiences of my life. I still can't figure out how they were able to do a two girl sliding sandwich with me in the middle. How was that girl on the bottom able to slide back and forth? It's a mystery to this day but it was great fun. Unfortunately, Kartika has long passed it's prime.

I agree that online delivery is taking over. I preferred the old days when places like Top Gun, Oscars, Tanamur, and Lintas Melawai were in full force. It was a paradise for expats back then.

Enzo2019
10-08-19, 10:30
Went back to Classic again this afternoon, had a better look at the minimum spend sign and it was as follows.

Mon, Tues, Wed - 30 k.

Thurs, Fri, Sat - 45 k.

Sun. Free.

Also to reiterate that they are open from 3 pm - 3 am.

Quality on offer was okay, 3's - 7's around nothing amazing. Took a session with a very cute girl but she spoke very little English. Against my usual M. O. And sure enough the session was rushed and unremarkable.

Plan is to check out King Cross tomorrow, also have the option to extend my stay. Judging by how slowly my stack of currency is going down I may just do that, if this was Manila I'd have blown through all of it plus some.

Cheers.

Smoothy
10-08-19, 18:05
Went back to Classic again this afternoon, had a better look at the minimum spend sign and it was as follows.

Mon, Tues, Wed - 30 k.

Thurs, Fri, Sat - 45 k.

Sun. Free.That tiny minimum fee is just to keep out the freeloaders. Honestly, I wish they would raise it to 200 k.

Enzo2019
10-08-19, 18:14
Getting the girl's number was no achievement.

please don't share photos or give her name though because she might get in trouble for doing that. At no point did I say or even make out like it was an achievement. From past posts on this forum one BM states that it cost him a cell phone order to arrange an outside meet because the girl was scared of being caught. It very well may be the case but I didn't get the feeling that the girl was being controlled, my personal experience.

I might be new to Jakarta and this forum but I can assure you I'm more than socially and intellectually calibrated, so you can save your condescending discretion comment.

BenderOver
10-08-19, 23:59
With multiple mamasams and groups of girls, is the situation the same for them all?
Cheers.They're not all under the same boss. There's some scheme going around though. A girl's contract requires her to work fornthe same boss for a set period of time and leaving that boss early gets an added five million rupiah fine. So I don't know if the bosses harass the girls or slow down their business, but it forces the girls to leave early to another boss. Thus the new boss has to pay the fine for the girl, and there the debt adds up even more.

Not all girls are in debt like this. You know if they have their original KTP in their possession. The first one I met was a skinny tattooed beauty with firm the breasts and great nipples. Not dropdead cute, but certainly slutty beautiful. I asked her if she had a boyfriend. She replied no, and she didn't want one. She's focused on work to get herself out of that place. It didn't sound like she was locked in a debt Bond as I recall reading that she's been there for a couple of years already and always plays it safe CBJ CFS no kissing. So she's on a mission to get ahead in life working at classic. Good on her.

I haven't been to classic for over a year. I guess I like it too much and it gets me in trouble. Been floating around Kotah Indah finding one ATF after another.

Goferring
10-09-19, 00:24
I haven't been to Kartika since around 2007. But the last time I was there, I took two girls and it was one of the most unique experiences of my life. I still can't figure out how they were able to do a two girl sliding sandwich with me in the middle. How was that girl on the bottom able to slide back and forth? It's a mystery to this day but it was great fun. Unfortunately, Kartika has long passed it's prime.

I agree that online delivery is taking over. I preferred the old days when places like Top Gun, Oscars, Tanamur, and Lintas Melawai were in full force. It was a paradise for expats back then.It's certainly an experience that everyone should try at least once. It's a laugh if you don't take life too seriously and the ladies are definitely entertaining.

She did say that business is well down from its hayday. When I was there girls were occupying only one of the three lounges. Having said that, she did mention that they still see a fair number of expats, all old hands rather than new visitors. Apparently there was another in earlier in the day and when I left a white guy was at the bar making his choice so there still are a few that pass through.

Enjoy. G.

Stykler
10-09-19, 02:18
Thanks and yes. Avoid their "Sky Lounge" or whatever it's called, food at the restaurant was very good though. I noticed they have a men's spa, had a quick look through the glass doors and saw 2 female workers and a pool table, will check it out later today.

Cheers.I have posted about the Sky Lounge previously on this forum. I have been a frequent guest of this hotel and SkyLounge before and despite its various metamorphosis's the SkyLounge has always been a rip-off. I remember on one occasion I inadvertently paid about US $20 for a soda water! Unfortunately I didn't pick this up until I reviewed the hotels invoice once I got home. The hotel is great, the Sky Lounge not so great.

It would be interesting to hear how you went at the mens spa as I've never had the opportunity to indulge myself. Given the prices at the Sky Lounge I can only guess in horror what the prices at the spa would be. Look forward to hearing about your experience there.

Golfinho
10-09-19, 03:12
I tell her "next time" and she asks "when?" so I spin her a little lie that I'll return after work tomorrow night. She tells me to come at 5 pm and wait for her and that she will be sitting at her usual couch with the red uniformed girls.
thanks to all past contributors who have helped me gain insight into the scene here.In the intervening 24 hours, how many customers would we reckon this girl at Classic brothel, err Hotel, would have taken on before this guy bumps into her again?

Enzo2019
10-09-19, 06:26
They're not all under the same boss. There's some scheme going around though. A girl's contract requires her to work fornthe same boss for a set period of time and leaving that boss early gets an added five million rupiah fine. So I don't know if the bosses harass the girls or slow down their business, but it forces the girls to leave early to another boss. Thus the new boss has to pay the fine for the girl, and there the debt adds up even more.

Not all girls are in debt like this. You know if they have their original KTP in their possession. The first one I met was a skinny tattooed beauty with firm the breasts and great nipples. Not dropdead cute, but certainly slutty beautiful. I asked her if she had a boyfriend. She replied no, and she didn't want one. She's focused on work to get herself out of that place. It didn't sound like she was locked in a debt Bond as I recall reading that she's been there for a couple of years already and always plays it safe CBJ CFS no kissing. So she's on a mission to get ahead in life working at classic. Good on her.

I haven't been to classic for over a year. I guess I like it too much and it gets me in trouble. Been floating around Kotah Indah finding one ATF after another.Appreciate the clarification and good to know that not all are in the same situation.

Cheers.

Enzo2019
10-09-19, 06:39
It would be interesting to hear how you went at the mens spa as I've never had the opportunity to indulge myself. Given the prices at the Sky Lounge I can only guess in horror what the prices at the spa would be. Look forward to hearing about your experience there.Will pop in and gather some intel later on.

Cheers.


In the intervening 24 hours, how many customers would we reckon this girl at Classic brothel, err Hotel, would have taken on before this guy bumps into her again?You're quoting me then referring to me in third person, not sure what you're getting at with this question. I'll take it literally and just assume that you're mentally challenged and don't understand what "spin her a little lie" means.

BenderOver
10-09-19, 10:50
In the intervening 24 hours, how many customers would we reckon this girl at Classic brothel, err Hotel, would have taken on before this guy bumps into her again?Relevance? What does it matter? He's not white knighting her. If the GFE is worth repeating and she's this good to all the customers and cute with a body, then 4. If it's slow or she's saving the GFE for lucky guy here, then 0.

I've seen a providers monthly account before. It looks like a professional balance sheet. About 20 sessions in 3 weeks time. And they're begging for work / customers. It's really a pretty sad situation but I'm enough of a hypocrite to visit Kota Indah nightly still.

Smoothy
10-09-19, 16:42
Relevance? What does it matter? He's not white knighting her. If the GFE is worth repeating and she's this good to all the customers and cute with a body, then 4. If it's slow or she's saving the GFE for lucky guy here, then 0.

I've seen a providers monthly account before. It looks like a professional balance sheet. About 20 sessions in 3 weeks time. 4 guys a day? That would be one of the mediocre girls. The best looking girls in those places go with 6 to 8 guys a day. Only the very ugliest ones get 0 in a day even if it's slow.

Smoothy
10-09-19, 16:51
At no point did I say or even make out like it was an achievement. From past posts on this forum one BM states that it cost him a cell phone order to arrange an outside meet because the girl was scared of being caught. It very well may be the case but I didn't get the feeling that the girl was being controlled, my personal experience.

I might be new to Jakarta and this forum but I can assure you I'm more than socially and intellectually calibrated, so you can save your condescending discretion comment.All I am saying is that these girls readily give their numbers out, but it's quite rare for any of them to actually meet a customer outside their place of work. And if you do happen to get them to meet you outside their place of work, my guess is you be disappointed. But I do look forward to your report.

You don't get the feeling the girl was being controlled? I guess that's relative. Are they like the kidnapped girls you see in the movie Taken? No. But their family is in debt to the people running the place. They feel they are doing their part to help their family by working there, but they are not just free to come and go as they please with no repercussions.

Enzo2019
10-10-19, 04:16
My experiences with girls like that have always been interesting to say the least (in a bad way). The fact that I don't even try it anymore speaks volumes.
All I am saying is that these girls readily give their numbers out, but it's quite rare for any of them to actually meet a customer outside their place of work. And if you do happen to get them to meet you outside their place of work, my guess is you be disappointed. But I do look forward to your report.

You don't get the feeling the girl was being controlled? I guess that's relative. Are they like the kidnapped girls you see in the movie Taken? No.I have no intention of meeting this girl out with her work schedule nor will I be repeating with her during work. Therefore there will be no further report despite your predictions based on your own experiences.

Believe it or not I actually joined this forum to contribute, I have no idea why you and Golfinho are acting like I'm a noob who's asking for info without RTFF.

Tommy Suharto
10-10-19, 06:12
After walking around town for a few days, I was in need of a massage so decided to combine one with our favourite hobby. A soapy at Kartika was deemed to be well in order.

Unfortunately, I couldn't remember exactly where it was and Google / Grab list 3 Kartika Massages near Hayam Waruk, none of them the right one. The correct location is not listed at all so I don't know what they did to piiss of the Google Gods. I was the proverbial guy that couldn't get laid in a brothel, driving around in circles, lost, long enough for Maps to flatten the battery of my cell phone. Back to the hotel room to do some more research and find out wtf is going on: yes, it is still open; yes it's along H Waruk; it's in the same alley as Berlian and Berlian is on the map. Off we go for attempt 2.

Sure enough we easily find Berlian and Kartika is there, plain as day, a couple of doors down. At 6 pm there are two Indonesian guys at the bar and about 10 girls in the lounges. None are stunners so I have a drink and wait to see if better options appear. Nothing does and after making so much effort to get here, there is no way I'm backing out.

I kid myself that the girl in blue is a diamond in the rough, prepay 380 k inc my drink and upstairs we go. The massage is actually pretty good on my old frame, progressing from a regular rub down to a two sided body rub. Then it was a CBJ and CFS. I got the job done, she was pleasant and chatty (in Indonesian) during the massage but it wasn't an earth shattering session. I did complain about both prepayment and the CBJ but to be honest, I didn't put up too much of a fight.

At the price I can't argue much. I got a shot away. She was no 19 yo stunner but wasn't ugly either. I would have paid the same amount just for the massage elsewhere and that alone was pretty good.

I'm leaving Jakarta soon so if this trip was an attempt to relive fond memories of wild times it was a bit of a bust. I did enjoy returning but it is a different town. Bricks and mortar fun palaces have receded and online delivery of exceptionally pretty girls are in the process of taking their place. Some will miss the old ways and some will thrive in the new marketplace.

Enjoy. G.Nice. Good call, Soapy's are fun. One of those old-time Jakarta Icons.

The only place I would consider for visit north of Monas, these days, to be honest. My last visit was in 2013. By the look of it, prices haven't changed much, since. 380 k. 30 k for the drink. I remember both Berlian and Kartika are open early, like 11 am in the morning. And if you would visit midweek, you'd be spoiled for choice, many girls available.

I don't think they are listed on Google, (you can see their sign if you look up Berlian and then hit Streetview), but look for the famous Suisse Bakery on Hayam Wuruk, is easiest.

Enzo2019
10-10-19, 15:31
Visited Malio Hotel tonight and was very impressed.

Went upstairs to the quiet bar, saw a few nice cuties while drinking a coffee. Went across to the restaurant / lounge and it was pretty packed with an assortment of locals and imports. Some of the imports were 8/9's in anyone's eyes (do 10's even exist?) but they all looked a bit too hardened for my liking. Had a quick beer and went back to the quiet bar and took a cutie I had my eye on. She was genuinely surprised to get picked from the line up and was all smiles with a touch of nervousness thrown in. Service was superb and totally unrushed despite a complete language barrier, she even initiated the second round even though I was satisfied. I complied anyway and fired off a second shot. Bit of google translate banter, a third shower, sat upstairs with her for a while, settled my bill and I was on my way back to the hotel.

Well worth a visit, I shall check out the club another night before I leave.

Cheers.

R The Man
10-10-19, 15:56
Hey guys, I'm an experienced world-wide pooner and visiting Jakarta for the first time for a couple of days at end of this month. Have read 20 pages of this forum, planning to visit Hotel Classic of course, and then perhaps a soapy at Kartika. Thanks for the intel.

I'd like to also have some girls at my hotel (Grand Mercure Harmoni), maybe even an overnight. Don't have time to do the Tinder / Seeking Arrangement / Badoo thing (and I only speak English), but will try WeChat. Anything else I should try? Any reliable escort agencies here? Any fave indy's? PM me if you prefer. Also, if you want to meet up for a beer or exchange stories.

R.

TrueGent
10-10-19, 17:00
Hi guys,

I am a digital migrant with a western income. I will be touching down in Jakarta around December 19 for up to 2 months. Touring Vietnam ATM. What is the best tactic for a stay of 1-2 months in or around Jakarta? Is it better to find a regular or just punt all the time? Thank you in advance.

Irish Mongrel
10-11-19, 03:54
Hi guys,

I am a digital migrant with a western income. I will be touching down in Jakarta around December 19 for up to 2 months. Touring Vietnam ATM. What is the best tactic for a stay of 1-2 months in or around Jakarta? Is it better to find a regular or just punt all the time? Thank you in advance.

I would consider bouncing around the FL hangouts and if you click with somebody maybe invite her along for some of your trips out of Jakarta. Although that can become expensive for a couple of months. You certainly don't want to be spending 2 months in Jakarta, unless you are working there. You'll cover what tourist "attractions" there is very quickly, if that is what you are in to.

You could start some pre-work by using Tinder. Buy Gold membership for a month and start chatting to girls. They will quickly want to swap to Whatsapp, but to me that sounds not a problem for you as you can always get a pay as you go SIM card in Vietnam if you don't want to give out your phone number. Don't be shy, put in your profile that you're coming in for a month or two, looking for somebody to accompany you on some trips in and around Indonesia, and you will get all sorts of offers. Have a look at my previous post on here about Tinder. Yes, there are a bunch of FL on there, but they are pretty obvious. However, there are also girls just looking for some fun. They can't afford holidays themselves and are more than happy for "friend with benefits" arrangments. Set up a bunch of contacts on Tinder and have some try-outs in Jakarta the first week or two you are there. There are some diamonds on there, you just have to commit some time to finding them.

BenderOver
10-11-19, 07:04
I would consider bouncing around the FL hangouts and if you click with somebody maybe invite her along for some of your trips out of Jakarta. Although that can become expensive for a couple of months. You certainly don't want to be spending 2 months in Jakarta, unless you are working there. You'll cover what tourist "attractions" there is very quickly, if that is what you are in to.

You could start some pre-work by using Tinder. Buy Gold membership for a month and start chatting to girls. They will quickly want to swap to Whatsapp, but to me that sounds not a problem for you as you can always get a pay as you go SIM card in Vietnam if you don't want to give out your phone number. Don't be shy, put in your profile that you're coming in for a month or two, looking for somebody to accompany you on some trips in and around Indonesia, and you will get all sorts of offers. Have a look at my previous post on here about Tinder. Yes, there are a bunch of FL on there, but they are pretty obvious. However, there are also girls just looking for some fun. They can't afford holidays themselves and are more than happy for "friend with benefits" arrangments. Set up a bunch of contacts on Tinder and have some try-outs in Jakarta the first week or two you are there. There are some diamonds on there, you just have to commit some time to finding them.Having a long term steady will no doubt cost you more in the long run. Don't think you'll be saving money by keeping one girl happy there. They tend to burn through millions every week having latched onto you like an ATM machine. The benefit is you can have sex anytime you want as much as you want, so make sure face, body, and pussy fit your tastes. Also, you can probably do naughty things like making her drink your cum and assfucking her easier. But if the game of adventuring and seeking are your thing and you're stocked up on antibiotics, then cycling through the venues mentioned in this forum is the way to go. Average spend playing the field is about 700 k per punt over the long run. You'll find 8's face and body easy and GFE better than 50% of the time.

BenderOver
10-11-19, 07:08
Hey guys, I'm an experienced world-wide pooner and visiting Jakarta for the first time for a couple of days at end of this month. Have read 20 pages of this forum, planning to visit Hotel Classic of course, and then perhaps a soapy at Kartika. Thanks for the intel.

I'd like to also have some girls at my hotel (Grand Mercure Harmoni), maybe even an overnight. Don't have time to do the Tinder / Seeking Arrangement / Badoo thing (and I only speak English), but will try WeChat. Anything else I should try? Any reliable escort agencies here? Any fave indy's? PM me if you prefer. Also, if you want to meet up for a beer or exchange stories.

R.Definitely add Kota Indah to your list for low end greatness and CJ and BATS for high end yet a little overpriced deals.

I'd rather hit KI vs CJ 10 times versus 1 time. Maybe I got bad experience at CJ.

Smoothy
10-11-19, 14:06
maybe I got bad experience at CJ.I much prefer taking girls to my own room. The problem with CJs is the girls want too much money now. They all want 2 million these days. However, once you take them that first time for 2 million, you can call them other days and have them come to your place after that for 1 million. Totally different experience with a free lance girl compared to a brothel girl. But, you don't have to go to CJ's, it's easy to meet girls anywhere in Jakarta. Hell, you can go to McDonalds and chat up girls, get their phone numbers and be having sex soon enough. Tinder is off the hook easy to meet girls. I can't even remember the last time I went to a brothel in Jakarta. There's no need.

Enzo2019
10-11-19, 14:35
It would be interesting to hear how you went at the mens spa as I've never had the opportunity to indulge myself. Given the prices at the Sky Lounge I can only guess in horror what the prices at the spa would be. Look forward to hearing about your experience there.I popped in today after forgetting the past few days. Couple of decent looking girls working, there were more floating around but I didn't get a proper look at them. Asked for a Spa menu and was told there wasn't one, she then said massage would be 630 k for 90 minutes. Massage only. I'm not sure if that meant there was massage only available or that the price was for massage only and extras were available. At a guess extras could be negotiated with the "masseuse".

Cheers.

Offshore Swell
10-11-19, 15:42
Hi guys,

I am a digital migrant with a western income. I will be touching down in Jakarta around December 19 for up to 2 months. Touring Vietnam ATM. What is the best tactic for a stay of 1-2 months in or around Jakarta? Is it better to find a regular or just punt all the time? Thank you in advance.Get yourself a motorcycle. Hire one or buy one. For two months in and around Jakarta. This will get you around incognito and provide immense value to your stay. You won't be able to fuck the bike but any girl you can get on the back of it you probably can.

Hope that helps.

OS.

Turgid
10-11-19, 16:02
Get yourself a motorcycle. Hire one or buy one. ............How safe is that? Motorbikes are notorious for causing injuries.

Enzo2019
10-12-19, 03:42
you can go to McDonalds and chat up girls, get their phone numbers and be having sex soonMacDonald's is a heaven for school kids and low quality women but each to their own.

For any of you who have more game than that then I'd suggest Plaza Indonesia and Grand Indonesia across the road.

Offshore Swell
10-12-19, 04:24
How safe is that? Motorbikes are notorious for causing injuries.Usually only when you come off them. It's a risk reward equation. Theres 7 million of them in Jakarta so the control sample is pretty robust.

OS can cover most sides of Jakarta in an hour and get from Mangga Besar to Kelapa Gading in 22 minutes. Try that in your bluebird when you just want to get there and play. And when you take the girl home theres no need to hold her hand in the taxi and make small talk. She's got her legs around the back seat with that motor drumming away on just the spot you want it to be.

And if you want a reminder of why you took her, just touch the brakes a little.

Hope that helps.

OS.

Tommy Suharto
10-12-19, 05:53
Usually only when you come off them. It's a risk reward equation. Theres 7 million of them in Jakarta so the control sample is pretty robust.

OS can cover most sides of Jakarta in an hour and get from Mangga Besar to Kelapa Gading in 22 minutes. Try that in your bluebird when you just want to get there and play. And when you take the girl home theres no need to hold her hand in the taxi and make small talk. She's got her legs around the back seat with that motor drumming away on just the spot you want it to be.

And if you want a reminder of why you took her, just touch the brakes a little.

Hope that helps.

OS.Nothing beats a motorbike, it is a good idea. How do you that with a riders license, OS? Do you use a local one?

I had a small Honda motorbike for 4 years in Jakarta and gave it away, a few years back.

Not having a license back then was not a prob, just pay 250 k damage if you happen to run into the police (always ask for a 'kwitansi' to fuck with them), but whilst on visit these days, they tell me police checks have become far too common to use it long distance.

Offshore Swell
10-12-19, 06:58
Nothing beats a motorbike, it is a good idea. How do you that with a riders license, OS? Do you use a local one?

I had a small Honda motorbike for 4 years in Jakarta and gave it away, a few years back.

Not having a license back then was not a prob, just pay 250 k damage if you happen to run into the police (always ask for a 'kwitansi' to fuck with them), but whilst on visit these days, they tell me police checks have become far too common to use it long distance.You just get an international drivers permit from your home country and carry it in Indonesia along with your foreign license. Bali police are experts at shaking down tourists who don't have the international license. They last 12 months but you can extend them by buying a stamp from your local office supplies store. If you want to be cheeky when they pull you over you hand them your library card. Education isn't a prerequisite to join the police in Indonesia although if you're female you must still be a virgin.

The crunch is that if you do have an accident, some travel insurers may decline to cover you if you were driving and didn't have the international permit which just takes all the fun out of extending the permit validity with your five dollar stamp.

Hope that helps.

OS.

Marky1
10-12-19, 10:35
If you must ride a motorbike then surely it's better to take a Gojek.

Tommy Suharto
10-13-19, 00:11
You just get an international drivers permit from your home country and carry it in Indonesia along with your foreign license. Bali police are experts at shaking down tourists who don't have the international license. They last 12 months but you can extend them by buying a stamp from your local office supplies store. If you want to be cheeky when they pull you over you hand them your library card. Education isn't a prerequisite to join the police in Indonesia although if you're female you must still be a virgin.
Hahaha. The 2 finger exam. To see if she's a good girl. Why 2 fingers? Can't they just use one? I bet, to see if she's good, most of us could check without fingers.

Thanks, an international permit will be cheaper than paying the police all the time. A stamp, must be one of those standard date stamps, I guess.


If you must ride a motorbike then surely it's better to take a Gojek.Yes, Gojek is great. If you stay for a few weeks or so, it's perfect. But if you stay a bit longer, a bike is convenient. I would park at night in Jl Falatehan, blok M or Eastern Promise. Second hand bike, couldn't care less if it got stolen. Girls would hop on, very normal thing to do for them. Cruising around town, checking street hookers in Tanah Abang, Jaksa or Senen. Massage in GrandWijaya or Pedurenan, online dates in the shopping malls, too easy.

Smoothy
10-13-19, 12:59
MacDonald's is a heaven for school kids and low quality women but each to their own.

For any of you who have more game than that then I'd suggest Plaza Indonesia and Grand Indonesia across the road.Ya, it's not as if every person in the world goes to McDonald's at some point. Especially late at night party girls since McD is about the only place open 24 hours.

I am not suggesting anyone hang out in any McDonalds, or Starbucks, or Grand Indonesia, or any other particular place. I used McDonald's as a generic example to suggest you can meet girls absolutely anywhere. Any white guy can walk up to any Indonesian girl in town and ask them for their number. The chances of getting her number are very high. It doesn't require a lot of game. Indonesia is the only country I've been to that's like that.

Looking forward to your next report on a place like Hotel Classic or Malioboro that we have all been to hundreds of times already and there have already been hundreds of reports on here. Thanks for your contribution.

Attached is a photo of a girl at McDonalds in Jakarta.

Zippos
10-14-19, 02:02
I guess Jakarta has changed a lot in few months. Could never imagine such a exposure in Jakarta, LOL. Good eye candy for Horny Indonesian man.


Ya, it's not as if every person in the world goes to McDonald's at some point. Especially late at night party girls since McD is about the only place open 24 hours.

I am not suggesting anyone hang out in any McDonalds, or Starbucks, or Grand Indonesia, or any other particular place. I used McDonald's as a generic example to suggest you can meet girls absolutely anywhere. Any white guy can walk up to any Indonesian girl in town and ask them for their number. The chances of getting her number are very high. It doesn't require a lot of game. Indonesia is the only country I've been to that's like that.

Looking forward to your next report on a place like Hotel Classic or Malioboro that we have all been to hundreds of times already and there have already been hundreds of reports on here. Thanks for your contribution.

Attached is a photo of a girl at McDonalds in Jakarta.

Enzo2019
10-14-19, 04:46
Ya, it's not as if every person in the world goes to McDonald's at some point. Especially late at night party girls since McD is about the only place open 24 hours That made very little sense, I'the hazard a guess that English is not your first language.

Ekspat
10-14-19, 15:33
How safe is that? Motorbikes are notorious for causing injuries.I'm riding bikes now for 10 years in SEA (Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand), altogether around 80,000 km.

One broken collar bone and that was my own fault. So no big deal. If you can ride a bike.

Golfinho
10-14-19, 16:55
Looking forward to your next report on a place like Hotel Classic or Malioboro that we have all been to hundreds of times already and there have already been hundreds of reports on here. Thanks for your contribution.
Attached is a photo of a girl at McDonalds in Jakarta.Tell the truth, now: you met her at Hotel Classic and took her to McDonald's on a date. This information would help out a lot of guys, you know.

Smoothy
10-14-19, 18:09
That made very little sense, I'the hazard a guess that English is not your first language.It's called sarcasm. If English is your first language, it would only make very little sense to a pea brain.

I'll spell it out for you:

"Ya, it's not as if every person in the world goes to McDonald's at some point. " (Translation: Every person in the world has been to McDonald's at least once in their life.).

"Especially late at night party girls since McD is about the only place open 24 hours" (Translation: Party girls go to McDonald's when they are done partying because they are often hungry and very few places other than McDonalds are open 24 hours.).

I'm still looking forward to your next report from a place we have all been many times that you likely learned about from this site. Thanks again for your vast contributions.

Smoothy
10-14-19, 18:19
I'm riding bikes now for 10 years in SEA (Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand), altogether around 80,000 km.

One broken collar bone and that was my own fault. So no big deal. If you can ride a bike.A motorbike is good if you need to get to a place like Kelapa Gading where the traffic is horrible. I have a motorbike in Jakarta, but I don't use it often. It mainly just sits in the garage and collects dust. I'd love to have a bajaj to drive around in since those seem to impress the ladies. Those bajaj guys get a lot of hot pussy. At least they did in Blok M back in the day. Half of the girls there were dating the bajaj drivers.

SeaTraveler
10-14-19, 19:56
Where does one find a scooter for rent in Jakarta?


I'm riding bikes now for 10 years in SEA (Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand), altogether around 80,000 km.

One broken collar bone and that was my own fault. So no big deal. If you can ride a bike.

SeaTraveler
10-14-19, 21:13
I have Tinder. And with GOLD you can set your location. So while I am at home in the USA I can set up Tinder dates in advance.

A review of the forum here suggested Badoo as a 2nd option. I set it up and got the Premium account, but I am not able to change the location as in Tinder. I tried everything I could, based on Google searches, but nothing works. All I get is locals here in PA.

Anyone aware of a fix.

Also what are suggested rates to pay Tinder girls? Most are asking 1. 5 to 2 million which I think is too much.

Thanks, Bob.

Zippos
10-15-19, 00:03
Something deep down in me was telling me, "wait till Smoothy see's it and unleashes his kraken" guess I was not wrong. Good translation job Smoothy. I wonder which version of Webster did you use, LMAO. Pun intended and no need to reply that.

Have anyone ever told you that you could be pure source of entertainment. I owe you a beer just for the translation and another one for the giggles.


It's called sarcasm. If English is your first language, it would only make very little sense to a pea brain.

I'll spell it out for you:

"Ya, it's not as if every person in the world goes to McDonald's at some point. " (Translation: Every person in the world has been to McDonald's at least once in their life.).

"Especially late at night party girls since McD is about the only place open 24 hours" (Translation: Party girls go to McDonald's when they are done partying because they are often hungry and very few places other than McDonalds are open 24 hours.).

I'm still looking forward to your next report from a place we have all been many times that you likely learned about from this site. Thanks again for your vast contributions.

Tommy Suharto
10-15-19, 00:42
I have Tinder. And with GOLD you can set your location. So while I am at home in the USA I can set up Tinder dates in advance.

A review of the forum here suggested Badoo as a 2nd option. I set it up and got the Premium account, but I am not able to change the location as in Tinder. I tried everything I could, based on Google searches, but nothing works. All I get is locals here in PA.

Anyone aware of a fix.

Also what are suggested rates to pay Tinder girls? Most are asking 1. 5 to 2 million which I think is too much.

Thanks, Bob.Yes, get a fake GPS app on your phone. You can find them in the app store. Install the app with the best reviews. Before / after you use Tinder or Badoo, you can switch the fake GPS on and off and set the location to Jakarta. 1. 5 million. I'd never pay that. I'd go somewhere else.

Blanquiceleste
10-15-19, 01:03
Yes, get a fake GPS app on your phone. You can find them in the app store. Install the app with the best reviews. Before / after you use Tinder or Badoo, you can switch the fake GPS on and off and set the location to Jakarta. 1. 5 million. I'd never pay that. I'd go somewhere else.A fake GPS will work with apps that use GPS for location anchoring. Most of the apps these days use IP address, which means a fake GPS app will just not work.

Also, I think its quite simple to change location settings in Badoo, I distinctly remember using it.

Tommy Suharto
10-15-19, 01:34
A fake GPS will work with apps that use GPS for location anchoring. Most of the apps these days use IP address, which means a fake GPS app will just not work.

Also, I think its quite simple to change location settings in Badoo, I distinctly remember using it.Nah. Fake GPS app used to work perfectly for Badoo, Super easy to use.