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I think it will still be some time before the VOA will be reinstated. The third (omnicron) wave could be upon us here now, as numbers have started to rise again.
Its Royal Gedong. (not Royal Gedung. My mistake). The location is in North Jakarta, on a road named 'bebek selatan'. Not too easy to find, but all locals up here knows where it is. Its located by the road in a residental area, you enter the location by a couple of warungs. A small strip of small cafes and shacks. Girls can be found in the cafes or roaming the strip, which reminds me more as a tunnel, as it has a roof overhead. The place gets busy after dark and stays open until morning.
Like many others, I am straining at the leash for the reinstatement of VOA.
In the meantime, I would love to hear more about "Rawa Malang and Royal Gedung". I can find a place called Rawa Malang (which looks to be in an "interesting" part of town but "Royal Gedung" eludes me.
You seem to know your way around, you will sure have fun. You are right that Kalijodo was demolished a couple years back. But there are several other similar places. To name a few: Rawa Malang and Royal Gedung. Both areas have a lot of ceweks and most allow creampies. Visited Royal 2 times last week and had a great time. Bring your own soap, very basic conditions here. You got to be a bit brave to visit here if you are bule. These areas cater 99.9% for the local market. Official price is now 170000 rp (12 usd).
PM me your wa number if want more details.Hey, Can you tell us more about those area (Rawa Malang and Royal Gedung)?
I have been to Kalijodo and Mango Besar but didn't find lot of cewe.
Someone knows others area with many cewe?
Thanks.
Information from the locals can be found at.
https://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/5d6494eb337f9376da3907c2/lokalisasi-royal-gedong/2/?order=asc
Some of it is confusing when translated, but there may be some useful information to be found.
Since the hotels aren't strictly quarantine-only and other regular guests also stay there (albeit in different floors), I have often wondered into other indoor areas of the hotel with no issue. First-hand experience in 3 hotels.That's pretty awesome since I heard that most hotels won't let you wonder around. Do you have any info on those less-restricted hotels since I need to book mine?
Greetings beloved Indonesian monger community.
First of all, thanks for managing a beautiful thread.
I tried to get in contact with some of you for past couple of weeks sending PM but unfortunately, the success rate of correspondence is low.
But I am not the person who give up that easily.
Can someone please recommend me places, islands, bars and streets that I can get some dark skinned beauties whom I can plant my seeds.
I duly appreciate someone who knows things well and is willing to cooperate and share info and contacts.
I am only interested in CIP and all naturale action. (Simple guy and I know that's the standard there).
I will assist you to make these threads even more beautiful.
Regards.
Sriwijaya,
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I think it will still be some time before the VOA will be reinstated. The third (omnicron) wave could be upon us here now, as numbers have started to rise again.
Its Royal Gedong. (not Royal Gedung. My mistake). The location is in North Jakarta, on a road named 'bebek selatan'. Not too easy to find, but all locals up here knows where it is. Its located by the road in a residental area, you enter the location by a couple of warungs. A small strip of small cafes and shacks. Girls can be found in the cafes or roaming the strip, which reminds me more as a tunnel, as it has a roof overhead. The place gets busy after dark and stays open until morning.
Sriwijaya,
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You need to buy a subscription to be able to send PM.I paid in full a month ago. I don't think they even allow one to post on threads without subscription.
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I paid in full a month ago. I don't think they even allow one to post on threads without subscription.You can post without a subscription.
Maybe the person who you tried to PM doesn't have a subscription and can't receive PM's?
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Sriwijaya.
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OK, this covid thing is really getting annoying. I've got an extremely cute little birdwatcher there, that I am eager to enjoy again. I am between jobs and have time to kill.
https://kemlu.go.id/losangeles/en/news/11727/update-indonesia-travel-restrictions
Trying to figure out what I have to do to get back into Indonesia. It looks like I need a 211 A Visa (Tourist). How difficult is it to get and how long does it take to get? Who can be my sponsor in-country? My hotel? I don't think my birdwatcher has enough money in bank to act as a sponsor.
I can only enter the country and quarantine in Bali? But, someone posted their link to all the quarantine hotels in Jakarta. Which is it? Can I quarantine in Jakarta?
I may have more questions.
Thanks.
MadVic.
Hey all! Long time lurker new time poster! I am super excited to provide my reports! I was just approved and got my visa to enter Indonesia I'm leaving from JFK in NYC (my home) on February 21st.
My question is is the Grand Mercure Harmoni still a good hotel that has spas and restaurants open with working girls? As I'll have to quarantine in the hotel for. 7 days now I don't want nor can I actually leave the hotel. I was considering this hotel or going cheaper by staying at the classic.
Any advice or recommendations for "in house" entertainment for my month long stay in Indonesia starting February 21st?
Thanks in advance!What type of visa did you get? How did you arrange a sponsor? Where did you get the health insurance policy from?
MadVic.
OK, this covid thing is really getting annoying. I've got an extremely cute little birdwatcher there, that I am eager to enjoy again. I am between jobs and have time to kill.
https://kemlu.go.id/losangeles/en/news/11727/update-indonesia-travel-restrictions
Trying to figure out what I have to do to get back into Indonesia. It looks like I need a 211 A Visa (Tourist). How difficult is it to get and how long does it take to get? Who can be my sponsor in-country? My hotel? I don't think my birdwatcher has enough money in bank to act as a sponsor.
I can only enter the country and quarantine in Bali? But, someone posted their link to all the quarantine hotels in Jakarta. Which is it? Can I quarantine in Jakarta?.I am not an expert but I have some knowledge about the visa. As far as I know, consulates won't issue any visa as of right now. Currently, You need to apply business visa in order to enter Indonesia. For more info, you can go to www.imigrasi.go.id. Another thing is that you can contact local travel agent in indo to "take care" of that visa for a substantial amount of fee. Last time I checked, it will cost around 4 to 5 mil rupiah (about $350 to 400). If you do that, the process will take about 1 to 2 weeks.
It's all about the moneeey.
I am not an expert but I have some knowledge about the visa. As far as I know, consulates won't issue any visa as of right now. Currently, You need to apply business visa in order to enter Indonesia. For more info, you can go to www.imigrasi.go.id. Another thing is that you can contact local travel agent in indo to "take care" of that visa for a substantial amount of fee. Last time I checked, it will cost around 4 to 5 mil rupiah (about $350 to 400). If you do that, the process will take about 1 to 2 weeks.
It's all about the moneeey.Thanks for tip on local travel agencies. Will be a challenge to contact them from here in the USA.
The link I provided mentions a "211 A" tourist visa. I'd like to know what kind of visa HornDog215 got to enter Indonesia.
MadVic.
SeaTraveler
01-14-22, 21:15
My friend is looking for dates in or around Jakarta. Covid has killed her real-world working income. I felt so bad seeing how skinny she has become that I've sent money on a number of occasions.
PM ME for details.
Thanks for tip on local travel agencies. Will be a challenge to contact them from here in the USA.
The link I provided mentions a "211 A" tourist visa. I'd like to know what kind of visa HornDog215 got to enter Indonesia.
MadVic.According to the Indonesian immigration website https://www.imigrasi.go.id/en/covid19-1/#1619354580218-89 b0 a356-5 f91.
Only citizens of 19 Countries can apply for the "Tourist Visa". USA is not one of them. Not sure if there is any flexibility with this. Perhaps with the right sponsor.
Member #3088
01-15-22, 03:46
OK, this covid thing is really getting annoying. I've got an extremely cute little birdwatcher there, that I am eager to enjoy again. I am between jobs and have time to kill.
https://kemlu.go.id/losangeles/en/news/11727/update-indonesia-travel-restrictions
Trying to figure out what I have to do to get back into Indonesia. It looks like I need a 211 A Visa (Tourist). How difficult is it to get and how long does it take to get? Who can be my sponsor in-country? My hotel? I don't think my birdwatcher has enough money in bank to act as a sponsor.
I can only enter the country and quarantine in Bali? But, someone posted their link to all the quarantine hotels in Jakarta. Which is it? Can I quarantine in Jakarta?
I may have more questions..You can't fly into Bali. You have to fly into Jakarta and quarantine there.
You can't fly into Bali. You have to fly into Jakarta and quarantine there.Read the link I posted. It clearly says Bali.
"All international tourists may only enter Indonesia via Bali (Ngurah Rai International Airport) and or Riau Islands (Raja Haji Fisabilillah International Airport). ".
MadVic.
Read the link I posted. It clearly says Bali.
"All international tourists may only enter Indonesia via Bali (Ngurah Rai International Airport) and or Riau Islands (Raja Haji Fisabilillah International Airport). ".
MadVic.You are correct in theory. However, in practice no international flights are arriving into DPS airport.
https://www.travelinglifestyle.net/bali-airport-has-not-received-any-international-flights-since-reopening/
Bienenstich
01-16-22, 07:51
I got quoted for a visa 5.5 m IDR which I think is just ridiculous. You can get 7 days quarantine hotel airport transfer all tests and have change left for that. Does any one know a cheap place or is it only possible to get ripped off real bad.
Is it allowed to share WhatsApp / telegram contact details here?.Sharing personal details in not allowed.
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I passed the Classic Hotel the other day and asked the satpam if the motel rooms were open, not only were the rooms open but Lantai Dua was also open, music, sexy dancers and all the girls you could shake a stick at, he delightedly told me.
Intrigued I went up and sure enough it was open, full on, bizarrely the sexy dancers were wearing perspex face masks (and even more bizarrely didn't take their clothes off, which rather defeats the purpose) but other than that no sign of health protocols. It gave me a nice buzz taking a seat once again after 18 months, telling the mamsan not to bother me until I got a beer down my neck, and just like the old days, her ignoring my very clear instructions and grabbing the first girl passing to introduce to me. There were plenty of girls, dressed in halter tops and tight trousers rather than the dresses of before but looking no worse for that.
I got a fine-looking seemingly busty young lady (claimed to be 19, almost certainly older) and she persuaded me to call an equally attractive friend, two-for-one package for 500 k. Normally I would never fall for that (two girls usually means more is less as they chat, check their phones and happily ignore the client) but I was feeling in ebullient form just to find myself back in the game again.
As it turned out it was just like the old days, two 20-something Sundanese single moms, who in the harsh light of the bedroom out of their push-up bras and high-heeled stilettoes lacked the glamour they presented in the noise and darkness upstairs. Added to that, the perfunctory covered BJ reminded me why I rarely had a great time in Classic.
But you know what? I didn't care. It was just nice to know that the green shoots of spring are here, winter's over. My life didn't come to a shuddering end in March 2020 after all, there's fun to be had again.
Just not in Classic, not this time.Yea that's always an issue here but easy enough to ask if they had a baby. Then ask again to be sure. Then say if you had a baby I am going to leave the room without paying. That always works!
Endgame everywhere.Truer words have never been spoken.
Sad, but true.
Then say if you had a baby I am going to leave the room without paying. That always works!Isn't it pay first before going to room?
Isn't it pay first before going to room?Been so long since I was in terminal I don't remember. Usually in Jakarta you get a wrist band or card with a number and pay the grand total on your way out.
There are usually ways around paying up front even if they claim that's how it is.
This isn't Qantas Air; you're dealing with pimps and mamasans.
It is also possible to turn back before anyone does anything and get money back.
For example if a woman promises a BJ but won't do it, it's quite possible to stop things there and go back.
But better just to learn to question up front and avoid any dramas.
I got quoted for a visa 5.5 m IDR which I think is just ridiculous. You can get 7 days quarantine hotel airport transfer all tests and have change left for that. Does any one know a cheap place or is it only possible to get ripped off real bad.It's my understanding that you MUST have a visa to enter Indonesia right now. Either tourist or work. No VOA.
And proof of medical insurance (US $100,000), I am looking for that right now.
Yes, sitting in a damn hotel for 7 days will suck. Even more so, to pay for overpriced, crappy hotel food.
MadVic.
I passed the Classic Hotel the other day and asked the...Nice writeup!
Hi,
Wondering if anyone has had any experience of this one?
I got quoted for a visa 5.5 m IDR which I think is just ridiculous. You can get 7 days quarantine hotel airport transfer all tests and have change left for that. Does any one know a cheap place or is it only possible to get ripped off real bad.I think that's the average price to get the "business" visaright now. One of my relative pay 5 mil for the same visa on last Nov. I heard there are some place that offered like 4 mil but you need to do your homework though. Remember, it still Indo when scam and fraud are everywhere.
It's my understanding that you MUST have a visa to enter Indonesia right now. Either tourist or work. No VOA.
And proof of medical insurance (US $100,000), I am looking for that right now.
Yes, sitting in a damn hotel for 7 days will suck. Even more so, to pay for overpriced, crappy hotel food..I know. I only planned my trip for 3 weeks and 1 week is going to be wasted! I'm wondering if I can sneak out at night time to find some cewe or get delivery.
ClassicJakarta
01-17-22, 20:14
Yes you pay before going to the room.
Been so long since I was in terminal I don't remember. Usually in Jakarta you get a wrist band or card with a number and pay the grand total on your way out.
There are usually ways around paying up front even if they claim that's how it is.
This isn't Qantas Air; you're dealing with pimps and mamasans.
It is also possible to turn back before anyone does anything and get money back.
For example if a woman promises a BJ but won't do it, it's quite possible to stop things there and go back.
But better just to learn to question up front and avoid any dramas.
Offshore Swell
01-18-22, 00:13
I know. I only planned my trip for 3 weeks and 1 week is going to be wasted! I'm wondering if I can sneak out at night time to find some cewe or get delivery.Sure you can! Just dress up like an ATM and catch the guards eye. Make sure you're well stocked up with large denomination bills as there will be lots of people in authority just dying to host you in their office for a bottle of water once the word gets out.
By all reports Wisma Atlet, the place they send the Indonesian arrivals with no money for quarantine is super social. OS had video call with one of his friends who deliberately chose there and they were all sitting around socialising having a fat old time.
You can sneak out of quarantine, OS has done it but you need good contacts and the guard on your floor is not that person. Trust me. And it’s expensive.
That's right.
Sriwijaya.
Isn't it pay first before going to room?
Sure you can! Just dress up like an ATM and catch the guards eye. Make sure you're well stocked up with large denomination bills as there will be lots of people in authority just dying to host you in their office for a bottle of water once the word gets out.
By all reports Wisma Atlet, the place they send the Indonesian arrivals with no money for quarantine is super social. OS had video call with one of his friends who deliberately chose there and they were all sitting around socialising having a fat old time.
You can sneak out of quarantine, OS has done it but you need good contacts and the guard on your floor is not that person. Trust me. And its expensive.I was thinking that maybe I should just pretend that I was broke like a joke so I can go to wisma athlete for free. But when I found out that not everyone can qualified for that (only students, official and migrant worker only) I don't think it's worth to try, especially when you came from the Land of Opportunity.
First visit to this not so new spa. GRO is excellent and show you all the girls pic on her phone so that you can choose. All in package was around 500 k. Picked a lady named Mia, 20 yr old from Serang. Not bad.
First visit to this not so new spa. GRO is excellent and show you all the girls pic on her phone so that you can choose. All in package was around 500 k. Picked a lady named Mia, 20 yr old from Serang. Not bad.Sometimes I ask myself who are prettier Thai girls or Indonesian girls?
Ggekko2009
01-22-22, 18:01
Sometimes I ask myself who are prettier Thai girls or Indonesian girls?For me, definitely Indonesian girls.
Egy Monger New
01-22-22, 18:33
Sometimes I ask myself who are prettier Thai girls or Indonesian girls?Beauty aside, Thai chics are more likely to agree to give a rimjob while Indo chics more likely to agree BBFS+CIP.
JamesXBrown
01-22-22, 18:47
For me, definitely Indonesian girls.Without a doubt, when it comes to facial attractiveness, Indonesian Thai Han Chinese Filipina.
Hottest body ranking is another list altogether.
Without a doubt, when it comes to facial attractiveness, Indonesian Thai Han Chinese Filipina.
Hottest body ranking is another list altogether.What nationality is Han?
Sometimes I ask myself who are prettier Thai girls or Indonesian girls?I realise we are all generalising here but the good thing about Indo is that it's 16,000 islands and very different looks can be found in the various provinces.
Want tall and slim, monster susu's, China white skin or any of the 100 other preferences? They can all be found somewhere.
If you are really lucky, transmigrasi has delivered some gorgeous mixes. Bali / Jawa produces some delicious, long legged, tits on sticks. 😁.
OK, has anyone else here recently entered Indonesia? Entry requirements state I need to have minimum US $100,000 international health insurance. Do they really check for this at the airport?
Thanks.
MadVic.
OK, has anyone else here recently entered Indonesia? Entry requirements state I need to have minimum US $100,000 international health insurance. Do they really check for this at the airport?.In my experience having lived there previously for more than 4 years, this was never asked for, usually you will only be asked for evidence of exit (if no KITAS), and work sponsorship if going there for work. If travel is opened for holiday, then it will be exit flight (to prove you won't overstay) and proof of accommodation (hotel etc.).
Safe travels.
BenderOver
01-27-22, 07:31
OK, has anyone else here recently entered Indonesia? Entry requirements state I need to have minimum US $100,000 international health insurance. Do they really check for this at the airport?
Thanks.
MadVic.This was part of the B211 A visa application. Most big name insurance PPO have a high limit with foreign coverage in emergency or urgent care. Submit your card and roll the dice. They don't ask at CGK upon arrival. There, they want vax card, PCR test, your quarantine hotel designation, health report, and ehac.
While at CGK, they'll give you your first PCR test also and you're required to wait for the results. The whole process could be 3 to 4 hours to get out of CGK into your quarantine transportation to even start heading out to your quarantine hotel.
This was part of the B211 A visa application. Most big name insurance PPO have a high limit with foreign coverage in emergency or urgent care. Submit your card and roll the dice. They don't ask at CGK upon arrival. There, they want vax card, PCR test, your quarantine hotel designation, health report, and ehac.
While at CGK, they'll give you your first PCR test also and you're required to wait for the results. The whole process could be 3 to 4 hours to get out of CGK into your quarantine transportation to even start heading out to your quarantine hotel.I was never asked about medical insurance. Had to show visa, PCR test, passport in the US, Narita and at CGK.
Did not have to wait for PCR test results. Did the test and they directed me onward. Was on my way to quarantine hotel within an hour. I was expecting to wait for results.
A couple more days and off to enjoy my birdwatcher.
MadVic.
SteelBaton
02-01-22, 17:19
What nationality is Han?He means: Indonesian, Thai, Han Chinese, Filipina. Han Chinese are the dominate ethic group in China, and I think some of them are among most beautiful women anywhere, but they have 1. 6 billion people so the hit rate doesn't have to be very high to deliver one gem. Personally, I'the replace Filipina with Vietnamese or Japanese. I like short women, but Pinoys are usually both short and chubby. Japan has some stunning models, but a few hours at lunchtime in Tokyo's will convince you that the average Japanese woman isn't very attractive.
SteelBaton
02-01-22, 18:20
Like many others, I am straining at the leash for the reinstatement of VOA.
In the meantime, I would love to hear more about "Rawa Malang and Royal Gedung". I can find a place called Rawa Malang (which looks to be in an "interesting" part of town but "Royal Gedung" eludes me.I have been here. I believe I left a report, but in summary, it was a hell of a way to go for nothing particularly special. I went in the late afternoon. It felt very safe and chill, but its a slum area with bars playing loud music and some hores hanging about. Most were middle-aged MILFs and unappealing to me. I thought it would be a complete strike out but I kept searching. Eventually, I did hook up with the 22 yr old cewek in the photo who was actually fairly good looking, not a MILF and the youngest woman I saw. But the deed had to be done in a hot, cramped, dirty concrete box of a room with no running water. Don't recall what I paid, but it wasn't much and she wasn't much of fcuk. If you are bored, have nothing to do and are in the mood for adventure and you have a way to get out there, near the ditches, it might be a worthwhile distraction. I recommend it for the monger who doesnt mind slumming it and is bored of the clubs, but dont expect a PSE.
Tell us how it goes if that VOA is available and you are back in Jakarta. Me, I’m gonna pay the money for the business visa when the quarantines get back to 2 nights.
JamesXBrown
02-01-22, 21:08
He means: Indonesian, Thai, Han Chinese, Filipina. Han Chinese are the dominate ethic group in China, and I think some of them are among most beautiful women anywhere, but they have 1. 6 billion people so the hit rate doesn't have to be very high to deliver one gem. Personally, I'the replace Filipina with Vietnamese or Japanese. I like short women, but Pinoys are usually both short and chubby. Japan has some stunning models, but a few hours at lunchtime in Tokyo's will convince you that the average Japanese woman isn't very attractive.Sorry, I just assumed people would realize I meant Han Chinese. And it's a personal preference anyways.
SteelBaton
02-02-22, 14:03
Appears that the government has reduced the mandatory quarantine down to 5 days for double vaccinated Indonesian citizens returning to Jakarta. Does anyone know if this applies to foreigners? And, if so, is it basically the same as the 3 day rules? Those rules required only 2 nights and 3 days in a quarantine hotel (lots of options including the Four Seasons). So are we now looking at 5 days, 4 nights?
Anyone following the political movements and has an educated guess on when that will drop back to 3 days? It's certainly positive that Thailand has now gone to zero days. Maybe will be a helpful nudge.
Seems there should be a separate thread for Covid Travel Restrictions. Maybe the mod can set that up?
SteelBaton
02-02-22, 14:06
http://www.thejakartapost.com/business/2022/02/01/indonesia-eases-quarantine-rules-to-spur-tourism.html
Eisya A. Eloksari (The Jakarta Post) PREMIUM Jakarta ● Tue, February 1, 2022 The government will shorten the mandatory quarantine starting on Feb. 4 for all travelers entering the country to five days from seven days in a bid to boost international tourism, particularly in Bali. Coordinating Maritime Affairs and Investment Minister Luhut Pandjaitan told reporters on Monday that only travelers with two doses of COVID-19 vaccine will be allowed to do the five-day quarantine, while those who only received the first jab must quarantine for seven days. The ministry made the decision based on the Omicron variant's incubation period of three days.
This article was published in thejakartapost.com with the title "Indonesia eases quarantine rules to spur tourism". Click to read: https://www.thejakartapost.com/business/2022/02/01/indonesia-eases-quarantine-rules-to-spur-tourism.html..
Appears that the government has reduced the mandatory quarantine down to 5 days for double vaccinated Indonesian citizens returning to Jakarta.After the 5 days is the tourist able to go to other provinces eg Sulawesi or does he need to stay where he arrived: Bali, Riau, Jakarta?
SteelBaton
02-03-22, 13:38
After the 5 days is the tourist able to go to other provinces eg Sulawesi or does he need to stay where he arrived: Bali, Riau, Jakarta?My understanding is that once quarantine has been completed you can travel anywhere that anyone else can. What's in Sulawesi? I'm looking for new places to explore on a coming trip.
Ggekko2009
02-03-22, 19:39
My understanding is that once quarantine has been completed you can travel anywhere that anyone else can. What's in Sulawesi? I'm looking for new places to explore on a coming trip.I have no idea how to correctly interpret their rules cause it is so confusing. This is the way how I have interpret it. Maybe someone can provide further clarification and / or corrections.
For those with tourist visa, they can only use them for entry into Bali or Riau, not Jakarta. The US embassy as of this writing still mentions that US citizens are still not eligible for tourist visa.
To travel to Jakarta, you would need a business visa. They have this matrix of different visa type that are so confusing. To apply for visa, you need to know someone who can sponsor you with a letter etc.
Now they only require 5 days quarantine for international traveler if you are fully vaxxed.
For domestic travel, you would still need to be fully vaxxed and show negative tests, 1-day for Antigen, 3-days for PCR to board domestic flights. All verifications done through their Peduli Lindungi app which I assume is their version of vaxx passport.
The whole thing is just a maze.
What's in Sulawesi? I'm looking for new places to explore on a coming trip.Lots of land and water based natural beauty. Just Google for the the tourist sites. Manado, Bunaken, Wakatobi, Toraja.
In line with this thread, many find the Bugis girls of Sth Sulawesi gorgeous. Can be crazy but very beautiful. As usual, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/business/2022/02/01/indonesia-eases-quarantine-rules-to-spur-tourism.html
Eisya A. Eloksari (The Jakarta Post) PREMIUM Jakarta ● Tue, February 1, 2022 The government will shorten the mandatory quarantine starting on Feb. 4 for all travelers entering the country to five days from seven days in a bid to boost international tourism, particularly in Bali. A 5 day quarantine is 5 days too long. I am not going to bother until the Indonesian Government abolishes Quarantine for all travelers. I hope ALL tourists stay away from Indonesia.
To date, Indonesia has been slow to ease, but I expect Indonesia to abolish quarantine in less than two months i.e by end of March.
~BKKguru
A 5 day quarantine is 5 days too long. I am not going to bother until the Indonesian Government abolishes Quarantine for all travelers. I hope ALL tourists stay away from Indonesia.
To date, Indonesia has been slow to ease, but I expect Indonesia to abolish quarantine in less than two months i.e by end of March.
~BKKguruAuthorities are widely circulating that the 5 days are confined to the resort and visitors are free to use pool, restaurant etc facilities.
Not as good as being able to walk around town / visit other areas but much better than being trapped in a room for a week.
Authorities are widely circulating that the 5 days are confined to the resort and visitors are free to use pool, restaurant etc facilities.
Not as good as being able to walk around town / visit other areas but much better than being trapped in a room for a week.It should be unlikely, but what happens if one of the other travellers that you are sharing the hotel facilities with, tests positive during quarantine? Will your quarantine be extended?
Muzungufotsy
02-06-22, 09:07
Authorities are widely circulating that the 5 days are confined to the resort and visitors are free to use pool, restaurant etc facilities.
Not as good as being able to walk around town / visit other areas but much better than being trapped in a room for a week.As long as you can't bring guests this is all a waste of time and money anyway.
DownUnderMonger
02-06-22, 10:14
Not just that, there are multiple reports that hotels provide a positive result on the last day to make you stay an extra week for being positive (see youtube for discussion of multiple instances).
https://thebalisun.com/ukrainian-tourists-allegedly-tricked-by-authorities-to-extend-quarantine-time/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx3gNBPKfzs
Muzungufotsy
02-06-22, 10:24
Not just that, there are multiple reports that hotels provide a positive result on the last day to make you stay an extra week for being positive (see youtube for discussion of multiple instances).
https://thebalisun.com/ukrainian-tourists-allegedly-tricked-by-authorities-to-extend-quarantine-time/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx3gNBPKfzsDisgusting indeed. Haven't heard anything like that in any other country. Indonesian people are getting greedy.
SteelBaton
02-06-22, 15:15
Not just that, there are multiple reports that hotels provide a positive result on the last day to make you stay an extra week for being positive (see youtube for discussion of multiple instances).
https://thebalisun.com/ukrainian-tourists-allegedly-tricked-by-authorities-to-extend-quarantine-time/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx3gNBPKfzsI think this is probably bullshit. Having spent a bunch of time on FB group sites, if you test positive on the last day at your quarantine hotel, you have to leave that hotel and do 10 days at a different government approved isolation hotel, which seem to be pretty basic pieces of shit lodgings. As a confirmed case, you are no long allowed to stay in a hotel with normal guests. So, no incentive for hotel to try to keep you, at least under the new rules beginning 4 February.
SteelBaton
02-06-22, 15:16
Authorities are widely circulating that the 5 days are confined to the resort and visitors are free to use pool, restaurant etc facilities.
Not as good as being able to walk around town / visit other areas but much better than being trapped in a room for a week.I'the like to know the names of those hotels.
I'the like to know the names of those hotels.I would also like to know the names of such hotels in Jakarta.
And I am very curious as to whether in-call is possible. In that case, five days of quarantine might not be soo bad.
And I would have thought in a country with so much informality and where so many things are done so superficially, in some hotels it should be possible to negotiate a mutual understanding allowing one to slip out.
I'the like to know the names of those hotels.From The Jakarta Post (behind a paywall):
Quote: "With the return of international flights to Bali, economic growth from the tourism sector is right before our eyes," said tourism ministry marketing deputy Nia Niscaya. She went on to say the government was introducing a new quarantine initiative called 'warm-up vacation' wherein travelers may roam around their hotels, instead of being confined to their rooms. Travelers could enjoy hotel facilities such as swimming pools, gym areas and beaches during their quarantine period.
Currently, only five hotels in Bali were offering warm-up vacations namely Grand Hyatt Nusa Dua and Westin Resort in Nusa Dua, Griya Santrian in Sanur, Viceroy in Ubud and Royal Tulip in Jimbaran, with a total capacity of 520 rooms. Nia explained that to avoid COVID-19 spreading, the five hotels would have separate quarters for quarantine guests and regular guests. Hotel management must also provide rooms for their personnel catering to quarantine guests. End quote.
A colleague has just endured the seven-day quarantine, he told me it was very strict, he couldn't even order take-away food to be delivered, the only concession to vice was a beer trolley that did the rounds in the evening. Mind you, he is a very law-abiding type, so he made no effort to circumvent the rules and would never dream of doing so. What habitual norms-violating people like us could achieve is a different matter.
Still and all, I really can't see why any tourist would bother visiting Indonesia until they drop this rule.
And I am very curious as to whether in-call is possible. In that case, five days of quarantine might not be soo bad.
Doubtful. Only if she is an existing guest or staff. Even staff have very limited access to leaving site.
I have no idea how they monitor or control who is going into what room.
I'd mark it as a 5 day dry spell.
Irish Mongrel
02-08-22, 04:38
I would also like to know the names of such hotels in Jakarta.
A quick google search brings up a lot of hotels in Jakarta offering the quarantine packages. Unfortunately they are on the upswing of Omicron and they've shut down tourist entry to Jakarta. Completely unstable at the minute and even if I could travel from the not so democratic Republic of Westralia it would be a big gamble to book anything. Two years and counting, hopefully sometime this year!
SteelBaton
02-09-22, 11:57
Details of the quarantine packages:
So, its not really 5 days, more like 3. 5 days and 4 nights. One can check-in to your hotel as late as 9:00 pm, stay 3 days /4 nights and you will be out by noon on the 5th day. So 3 full days in the hotel + a morning. Seems possibly do-able. But you need a business visa or an APEC card or some other special visa. Tourist visa on-arrival is not up and running yet.
This site has details of the packages offered by most of the hotels, from 2 star to 5 star. https://quarantinehotelsjakarta.com/.
These all seem to be very strict quarantines- defiantly no guests or visitors, however, I think you could have a friend check-in with you, but she will be there for the full time period and have to do all the same PCR tests as you have to.
For some people this will be acceptable, but I agree. It sounds horrible, especially when Thailand is opening without quarantines.
A 5 day quarantine is 5 days too long. I am not going to bother until the Indonesian Government abolishes Quarantine for all travelers. I hope ALL tourists stay away from Indonesia.
To date, Indonesia has been slow to ease, but I expect Indonesia to abolish quarantine in less than two months i.e by end of March.
~BKKguru
Doubtful. Only if she is an existing guest or staff. Even staff have very limited access to leaving site.
I have no idea how they monitor or control who is going into what room.
I'd mark it as a 5 day dry spell.My recent 6 night /7 day quarantine stint started with an after midnight check in, which hotel counted as night 1.
You get a room key, but it won't work. If you leve the room, they have to clean / sterilize it before letting you back in. I found this out my last morning. I wanted to come down for final breakfast. They told me if I left room, I could not go back in.
The only exception was the PCR test. Had to have the hall monitor let me back in the room.
No guests allowed, period. If you had an incall, they would have to be with you when you walk out of special arrivals lane for hotel.
There is a table placed outside each door. Your meals, laundry, bottles of water, etc are all placed there. Very minimal personal contact.
Madvic.
Offshore Swell
02-12-22, 08:38
My recent 6 night /7 day quarantine stint started with an after midnight check in, which hotel counted as night 1.
You get a room key, but it won't work. If you leve the room, they have to clean / sterilize it before letting you back in. I found this out my last morning. I wanted to come down for final breakfast. They told me if I left room, I could not go back in.
The only exception was the PCR test. Had to have the hall monitor let me back in the room.
No guests allowed, period. If you had an incall, they would have to be with you when you walk out of special arrivals lane for hotel.
There is a table placed outside each door. Your meals, laundry, bottles of water, etc are all placed there. Very minimal personal contact.
Madvic.Let me guess!, you stayed at one of the better brands of hotel. One with a reputation to protect and the critical mass of quarantiners to implement the strictest measures.
Drop down the star scale a bit and you should find things get fuzzier. They all have different strategies to ensure compliance. Disable the elevator to the quarantine floor, employ guards, section off the hotel. Am not sure they would be able to instantly disable your room card if you left the room but it's concievable.
OS was looking at the hotels a long way out of town, like Cikarang. Preferably with only a few quarantine rooms. Not that he needs to get there right now. His last hotel that he stayed in was removed from the list due to lax security ha ha.
Sorry, but it was a crappy Holiday Inn Express. No Sheraton or Marriott for me.
I have no idea which hotels do tricks or will let guests in. I don't speak bahasa, so I don't know Jakarta like you do. I used to frequent the Land of Smiles for the last 25+ years.
Madvic.
Let me guess!, you stayed at one of the better brands of hotel. One with a reputation to protect and the critical mass of quarantiners to implement the strictest measures.
Drop down the star scale a bit and you should find things get fuzzier. They all have different strategies to ensure compliance. Disable the elevator to the quarantine floor, employ guards, section off the hotel. Am not sure they would be able to instantly disable your room card if you left the room but it's concievable.
OS was looking at the hotels a long way out of town, like Cikarang. Preferably with only a few quarantine rooms. Not that he needs to get there right now. His last hotel that he stayed in was removed from the list due to lax security ha ha.
Ggekko2009
02-12-22, 15:08
Sorry, but it was a crappy Holiday Inn Express. No Sheraton or Marriott for me.
I have no idea which hotels do tricks or will let guests in. I don't speak bahasa, so I don't know Jakarta like you do. I used to frequent the Land of Smiles for the last 25+ years.
Madvic.How was your experience after you landed at CGK and through the immigration and customs etc. ? Were there many people on the plane? I assume all passengers at that point would have to go through the same quarantine process regardless of nationalities.
AsianPursuits
02-14-22, 00:21
Prior to arriving what's the best dating site for Indonesia girls? I only speak English.
ChoduMadan
02-14-22, 07:35
I she really a "She".
My friend is looking for dates in or around Jakarta. Covid has killed her real-world working income. I felt so bad seeing how skinny she has become that I've sent money on a number of occasions.
PM ME for details.
How was your experience after you landed at CGK and through the immigration and customs etc. ? Were there many people on the plane? I assume all passengers at that point would have to go through the same quarantine process regardless of nationalities.The plane was not very full.
Arrivals was like a cattle chute. They guide you from one station to the next. Was not bad and no long waits.
I thought I had to wait at airport for PCR test, but they directed me out to hotel staff and cars to hotel.
I had more trouble trying to figure out the Indo covid app. As a foreigner, you can't upload vaccines and vax cards from overseas. The app is mostly in bahasa. Took several days before I was told about website to upload foreign vax data.
MadVic.
Found out that they reduced the quarantine days into three days for people who have full vaccine and booster. Hopefully stay that ways till I arrive there.
MrBeast666
02-16-22, 22:46
Can anyone tell me about the quality, and what experience you get in G2 Hotel, Mr. Braid Bar and Bunker Bar.
What's the age of the women? Their appearance and if it is CIP.
Is it's worth staying in a hotel nearby and only go to these places?
Thank you for alerting us to this very important piece of information! I tried to find more info and it seems to be true. It applies to people who have had a booster (I. E. A third) dose and they still have to do PCR testing to get out of quarantine.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-14/indonesia-eyes-lifting-all-quarantine-requirements-around-april
http://www.news.cn/asiapacific/20220215/48d9d685b76a42f89b65e1d29c1bb5a2/c.html
It is not entirely clear, but based on what others have written here on the forum and what this source says, it should in practice be three days and two nights. "The exit PCR test can be carried out on the morning of the third day, and the traveler can leave quarantine if their test comes out negative. ".
https://coconuts.co/jakarta/news/3-shots-equal-3-days-of-quarantine-in-indonesia-starting-march-1/
Kopi Hitam
02-18-22, 05:19
Soon moving back to Indonesia after a long stint away. There's lots that hasn't changed (KI, Classic, Malio etc.) and some that has (STD, Mille's, Golden Crown etc.)
Back in 2011, I had a pleasant soapy massage and FS experience at Tematik on Jl. Jembatan 3. Basically it was a large room comprised almost entirely of an inflatable mattress. Big screen TVs were on the walls playing BFs. Throw in a bathroom ensuite and and a very reasonable price (around 450 rb at the time from memory).
The downside being it's a fair trek from what will be home base. I'm wondering if there's something similar in South Jakarta?
Kopi Hitam
02-18-22, 09:54
OK, has anyone else here recently entered Indonesia? Entry requirements state I need to have minimum US $100,000 international health insurance. Do they really check for this at the airport?.Providing you have a health insurance card to show them you should be fine.
Part of the KITAS application process also now requires proof of existing health insurance. However, it doesn't extend beyond showing a copy of your card.
How much cost PCR test at Indonesia now?
SeaTraveler
02-20-22, 10:28
I she really a "She".YES. She is all woman with one hell of a sex drive.
Most animalistic sex I ever had and I'm 66.
Providing you have a health insurance card to show them you should be fine.
Part of the KITAS application process also now requires proof of existing health insurance. However, it doesn't extend beyond showing a copy of your card.They never asked me about health insurance, going through arrivals and all the screening. They asked about everything else, but not health insurance.
I thought I already posted about this.
MadVic.
275 K is the fixed government price. Results may take 24 hours or more. Faster results will cost you more.
How much cost PCR test at Indonesia now?
SteelBaton
02-23-22, 20:05
Having recently done this, depending on when you flight arrives, say 18:00 Monday, you will check into your pre-paid quarantine hotel (3 star to 5 stars available), spend night #1, all the next day (Tuesday), night #2, then get tested at 5:00 am on Wednesday morning of day and you are released that afternoon. So arrive Monday evening, hit the clubs Wednesday night. Really not too bad if you have a day of office work you can do.
Thank you for alerting us to this very important piece of information! I tried to find more info and it seems to be true. It applies to people who have had a booster (I. E. A third) dose and they still have to do PCR testing to get out of quarantine.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-14/indonesia-eyes-lifting-all-quarantine-requirements-around-april
http://www.news.cn/asiapacific/20220215/48d9d685b76a42f89b65e1d29c1bb5a2/c.html
It is not entirely clear, but based on what others have written here on the forum and what this source says, it should in practice be three days and two nights. "The exit PCR test can be carried out on the morning of the third day, and the traveler can leave quarantine if their test comes out negative. ".
https://coconuts.co/jakarta/news/3-shots-equal-3-days-of-quarantine-in-indonesia-starting-march-1/
Just landed in Jakarta, the whole health protocol takes like an hour (make sure to bring all the requirements including booked hotel for quarantine) and right now stuck in the hotel for three days. After that, we'll see.
Just landed in Jakarta, the whole health protocol takes like an hour (make sure to bring all the requirements including booked hotel for quarantine) and right now stuck in the hotel for three days. After that, we'll see.Please provide details and keep us updated. I think there are a lot of people on this forum who would like to know as much as possible, both about the process of getting into Indonesia (e. G. Do you have access to hotel facilities such as the gym and pool at your hotel while in quarantine) and the situation on the ground once you are out of quarantine (how is it really at Classic now, is Malioboro open and are there many girls there etc.).
Any snippets of information are appreciated.
Ggekko2009
02-26-22, 18:26
Just landed in Jakarta, the whole health protocol takes like an hour (make sure to bring all the requirements including booked hotel for quarantine) and right now stuck in the hotel for three days. After that, we'll see.Wanted to send you a private message, but it looks like you don't have that membership active. Anyway, keep us updated on your experience. I kept telling the girls that I can and will only fly there if they remove the quarantines. I am waiting for that to happen.
Please provide details and keep us updated. I think there are a lot of people on this forum who would like to know as much as possible, both about the process of getting into Indonesia (e. G. Do you have access to hotel facilities such as the gym and pool at your hotel while in quarantine) and the situation on the ground once you are out of quarantine (how is it really at Classic now, is Malioboro open and are there many girls there etc.).
Any snippets of information are appreciated.So, I booked like a three star hotel and Front desk said I cannot go out from my room during the quarantine. They allowed me to order take out since their food is kinda meeh but until today, I have not step out from my hotel room even though they have some facilities. Going to give more updates once I come out. I might want to check out classic but not sure about Malioboro though. I want to check out smaller PP like vfour, zaigon, or starmoon.
JamesXBrown
02-27-22, 10:53
Just landed in Jakarta, the whole health protocol takes like an hour (make sure to bring all the requirements including booked hotel for quarantine) and right now stuck in the hotel for three days. After that, we'll see.Thanks for the on-the-spot reporting.
A quick question if you don't mind. Which visa are you on and how did you arrange a sponsor?
Cheers!
So, I booked like a three star hotel and Front desk said I cannot go out from my room during the quarantine. They allowed me to order take out since their food is kinda meeh but until today, I have not step out from my hotel room even though they have some facilities. Going to give more updates once I come out. I might want to check out classic but not sure about Malioboro though. I want to check out smaller PP like vfour, zaigon, or starmoon.Why don't you want to check out Malioboro?! Have you ever been there? I consider it Jakarta's best brothel (at least until covid). Some people don't work out that it has several separate parts and only see one part of it, and get the wrong impression.
Axel Heyst
02-28-22, 02:55
Why don't you want to check out Malioboro?! Have you ever been there? I consider it Jakarta's best brothel (at least until covid). Some people don't work out that it has several separate parts and only see one part of it, and get the wrong impression.Right on Cucumber. Malioboro Lounge / Malio Club was my favorite brothel in the whole world pre-Covid. But in 2022 I discovered Scandallo in Sao Paulo that I think is even better. You should give it a try if you are in the neighborhood. Anyway, have you any news on Malioboro / Malio's survival. Sooner or later I will return to SE Asia and I would make it a point to include Jakarta in my itinerary if Malio and Emporivm and a couple of other favorite honky tonks are still around.
Axel Heyst
02-28-22, 05:19
But in 2022 I discovered Scandallo in Sao Paulo I meant in 2021 I discovered.
ClassicJakarta
02-28-22, 14:37
Emporium is closed, rumour has it it will not be reopened.
Right on Cucumber. Malioboro Lounge / Malio Club was my favorite brothel in the whole world pre-Covid. But in 2022 I discovered Scandallo in Sao Paulo that I think is even better. You should give it a try if you are in the neighborhood. Anyway, have you any news on Malioboro / Malio's survival. Sooner or later I will return to SE Asia and I would make it a point to include Jakarta in my itinerary if Malio and Emporivm and a couple of other favorite honky tonks are still around.
Right on Cucumber. Malioboro Lounge / Malio Club was my favorite brothel in the whole world pre-Covid. But in 2022 I discovered Scandallo in Sao Paulo that I think is even better. You should give it a try if you are in the neighborhood. Anyway, have you any news on Malioboro / Malio's survival. Sooner or later I will return to SE Asia and I would make it a point to include Jakarta in my itinerary if Malio and Emporivm and a couple of other favorite honky tonks are still around.Can you explain the strengths of Scandallo over Malioboro? Prices, number of girls available, rooms on site?
My personal preference is for young, short, skinny girls without too much pubic hair. Do you get that in Brazil?
Thanks for the on-the-spot reporting.
A quick question if you don't mind. Which visa are you on and how did you arrange a sponsor?
Cheers!I do not need visa because I have indo passport but the one that I know that you need to apply for business visa and get sponsor. There are few travel agent that can "help" you for a substantial fee. I also heard rumors that they might get rid of quarantines around April but again, Mums the words!
Why don't you want to check out Malioboro?! Have you ever been there? I consider it Jakarta's best brothel (at least until covid). Some people don't work out that it has several separate parts and only see one part of it, and get the wrong impression.To be honest, I never been there and I hear lots of rumors that they've been deteriorate since pandemic (well, all of them are). I think Malio and classic was designed specifically to catered visitors from outside the countries since they're bigger, well organized, and more sophisticated. Since I'm native, I like to explore those smaller places that might offer something different with more affordable rates. But again, we'll see.
So yesterday since I came out for the quarantine, I visited one of the smaller places called Starmoon Bar located in the border line between Central and North Jakarta. The place is quite typical like other entertainment places with bar and girls sitting' on the couch. The options weren't as much as classic or malioboro but I kinda like the vibes. Mamasan just came to me once I put my butt on the stool and aggressively did her job. She brought one that is pretty cute with skinny flat azz body. Since it's my first time and I was in hurry, I just took her in and once inside, we washed ourselves and straight up to bed. She skipped BJ which kinda upset me a little bit but then she ask if I want do it without caps. At first like I was like surprised a little bit and my auto-pilot brain just lead to my mouth said "are you like clean and tested?" but when she said she likes it better without caps, my other head started taking over and after couple position, I blew inside of her. After that, clean up a little bit, get dressed, and I gave her tip but she wasn't satisfied and asked for more. Since I don't really want to argue, I just gave her more. Total cost is around 29 bucks and I'm pretty satisfied but will explore other places.
Axel Heyst
03-01-22, 00:53
Emporium is closed, rumour has it it will not be reopened.That's too bad. Emporium was a good place to find real nice girls. I always liked it.
Can you explain the strengths of Scandallo over Malioboro? Prices, number of girls available, rooms on site?
My personal preference is for young, short, skinny girls without too much pubic hair. Do you get that in Brazil?I share some of your same preferences in girls. That's one of the reasons I have been travelling to Thailand, Indonesia, and the PI for over 20 years. I am drawn to the slim Asian spinner body type with natural breasts and small butts. That said, I am happy to report that I have had very little problem finding spinner girls with similar bodies in Brazil as well. It depends where you look. But I have also discovered in Brazil a slightly different body type that has really turned me on. Namely the tall, slender, natural breast, small butt girls. And by tall I am talking about 5'8, 5'9, slender no fat, "A" cup and "be" cup girls. It turns out I like them a lot. Ha Ha.
Scandallo vs Malio / Maliboro the major differences:
Scandallo on an average night has between 120 to 140 top of the line girls on hand, with great variety in body type. There are plenty of slender, natural breast, small ass, pretty little spinners to choose from, but also plenty of full breasted (natural & silly cone) girls with natural butts and with enhanced large butts (bundas). On my 1st visit to Brazil I had to sample a large Bunda girl in RJ. She was a nice girl and we had a good time, but I immediately went back to my small butt preference. One of my favorite Scandallo girls was a Portuguese Brazilian slender spinner with the cutest smile I ever did see, ha ha, and boy did she love to kiss. I love her and plan to see her again soon.
Interestingly, most Scandallo girls are white although there are a few Asian, black, mixed race, and indigenous Brazilian girls there too. Another one of my favorite girls was an indigenous (Indian) gal. She was thin, tall, small breasted, loved to smoke weed and shag. On our first session together she would not stop fucking even after I came until she reached orgasm too. She gave me a 2nd hard on before I could pull out of her pussy. What a gal! I have a date to see her the night after I arrive back in town.
Anyhow, before I went to Scandallo I was skeptical that the place could live up to all the hype. But by my 2nd or 3rd visit I was hooked and I began going there almost every other night. The place is huge and is probably larger than Malioboro / Malio. There is a large entertainment bar where a rock band performs nightly. There is another large outdoor courtyard bar, a large restaurant bar with an adjacent courtyard and there is also a small atrium bar and various out of the way places to sit and fool around with your girl or girls.
So the bottom line is Scandallo has a large number of very attractive, very friendly girls of all shapes and sizes. The key difference between it and Malioboro / Malio Club is that Scandallo girls are FL's IE independent contractors. Malioboro / Malio Club girls work for the club. As a result, you pay the Scandallo girls directly and they can leave the club with you for ST or LT sessions if that is what you want or you can take your girls upstairs to the hotel section where there are very nice rooms on premises. It's up to you.
Another key difference is that unlike Malio Club where the girls are instructed by management to push for lady drinks, Scandallo girls are never pushy about drinks and they never ask for tips. Nobody asks for tips at Scandallo. The prices: Malioboro / Malio dancers ask between 1700 r to 3000 r for full service. Malioboro / Malio couch girls get 900 r to 1100 r. Scandallo girls charge around 500 br for ST. I never did LT. But as I said, take out is feasible at Scandallo because the charge for takeout is the same as the price of a room 240 br and the girls can leave the club anytime they want to.
Now I love Indonesian girls. They are really wonderful and so sexy. I really like Jakarta too. But truth be told, Brazilian girls look great and are better kissers. They also give amazing deep throat BBBJ's. But Malio girls and Jakarta girls in general are much likelier to bareback and this is the way it is with most Brazilian girls except for the ones at the lowest rung where the girls are much likelier to bareback. I went to SP & RJ twice in 2021 for 12 weeks total and I am going back for a third time this April. So far, I have shagged approximately 50 different Brazilian girls and repeated with many, yet I have barebacked only 2.
Still, I would say that Brazilian girls are more physical and more sexually unrestrained than Jakarta girls despite their bareback reticence, but if you must have bareback then Brazil is probably not for you. I like Jakarta girls & SP & RJ girls. I like Malioboro / Mali Club and I like Scandallo and Bomboa (another SP Boate). Both of these Boates are top quality nightclub bordellos with the girls and atmosphere that you would expect at such high end places. But comparing Malio and Scandallo is kind of like comparing mangos and papaya. Both are real tasty. If you have never been to Brazil, I think you should go. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so it is up to you as to which girls you will find more attractive in the long run. All I will say on the subject is that Brazilian girls are in the running for best girls on the planet. 555!
Incidentally, Sao Paulo nightlife is set up very similar to Jakarta. The Boates (the bordello nightclubs) are spread-out all-over town, and you have to Uber to get to them. The SP Clinicas are very similar to Geylang Casas in Singapore or BKK oily massage parlors and they are a great afternoon deal at 240 br / hour and there are plenty of slender natural breasted clinica girls available BTW.
You should read a ton more on the Sao Paulo thread if you are interested in checking out Sao Paulo.
A. H.
P.S. Most Brazilian girls have clean shaven pussies or trimmed runways. No problem in that area. I went down on a lot of Boate girls, LOL, and enjoyed every lick.
BenderOver
03-01-22, 07:45
275 K is the fixed government price. Results may take 24 hours or more. Faster results will cost you more.I suggest staying at a hotel where there is a quarantine staff. Ask the front desk to book the quarantine staff to your room when you're ready to do a PCR test to return to your country. 9 AM test and results back by 9 PM. Otherwise, there are test locations throughout the city. All pricing was at 275 k, but I didn't realize at the time that it was fixed government pricing.
This time my journey went to South and find a place called Vone. When I came in, the place reminds me of classic but in way much more small version of it. The main stage facing the bar and surrounded by lounge chairs. As usual, I came pretty early so the line up wasn't completely full. Nevertheless, GRO recommend me this girl and boy she was right. We went upstairs, I got undressed, lie down, and she started with massage. After finished, she asked me what's next and I said dunno. She just smile at me then got up, undressed herself (by the way, fine azz teddies), wash a little bit, come back and start giving me a BBBJ. It was an outstanding one, especially when she just pop it once she took it out from her mouth. Then she put the caps, went on top of me and we just start the rodeo. After vigorous 3 or 4 min with lots of nursing, then we switched to missionary for another 4 sweaty minutes and some passionate DFK before I blew it in the bag. Overall it's pretty damn good and I might going to come back. But again, there are more to see.
...Scandallo vs Malio / Maliboro the major differences....Thank you, Sir! That is very helpful indeed. I guess I will have to try Brazil at some point. Seems a good bit more expensive than Jakarta (something like 30% more than Malio, 80% more than Classic, but worth a try. Spinners who kiss passionately is my thing. And DATY. One thing I really like about Southeast Asian girls is that they have such soft pubic hair. And some have very little public hair at all (without shaving). I prefer soft pubes to shaved pussy, which I find can be a bit like sandpaper. So I guess that remains a minus for me in Brazil, as it will be a lot of sand paper. But I will still give it a try at the first opportunity. I wonder how it compares to Colombia, another place I haven't been yet.
Hi gents,
Anyone try Seeking.com
Sorry for the more generics of post, but can anyone tell me about what life is like in Jakarta? Is everything on lockdown, or are people still going to the malls, restaurants and such. I am coming from the UK which is pretty much back to normal. But I hear Singapore is still pretty strict and not sure about Jakarta. Is everyone is still masking. But is business somewhat back to normal? Or people in the malls? Can I meet with clients, go to restaurants / bars / clubs, do some mongering in my hotel?
Really appreciate if someone on the ground can let me know. I am planning a trip in mid-April, which supposedly is supposed to be open borders. But ya never know with Indonesians!
Also. Anyone have luck with seeking.com in Indonesia? That is my go to site when I travel and have incredible and relatively mid-price experience through Europe and USA.
Cheers.
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Sorry for the more generics of post, but can anyone tell me about what life is like in Jakarta? Is everything on lockdown, or are people still going to the malls, restaurants and such. I am coming from the UK which is pretty much back to normal. But I hear Singapore is still pretty strict and not sure about Jakarta. Is everyone is still masking. But is business somewhat back to normal? Or people in the malls? Can I meet with clients, go to restaurants / bars / clubs, do some mongering in my hotel?
Really appreciate if someone on the ground can let me know. I am planning a trip in mid-April, which supposedly is supposed to be open borders. But ya never know with Indonesians!
Also. Anyone have luck with seeking.com in Indonesia? That is my go to site when I travel and have incredible and relatively mid-price experience through Europe and USA.
Cheers.Everything is kinda, sorta back to normal, in the sense that everywhere is open, wearing masks in public, ie shops, malls, offices etc is pretty universal but once inside restaurants and bars the masks come off. But what you perhaps haven't calculated into your plans is not Covid but the fact that mid April is the middle of Ramadan and that will put the clampers on your plans more than the coronavirus will.
Everything is kinda, sorta back to normal, in the sense that everywhere is open, wearing masks in public, ie shops, malls, offices etc is pretty universal but once inside restaurants and bars the masks come off. But what you perhaps haven't calculated into your plans is not Covid but the fact that mid April is the middle of Ramadan and that will put the clampers on your plans more than the coronavirus will.Thanks Hilo. That's an excellent point. I forgot about Ramadan. This might be stupid question, but is it hard to monger and set up dates during holy season? Are restaurants and bars still open? Or are they closed / no drinking.
Thanks Hilo. That's an excellent point. I forgot about Ramadan. This might be stupid question, but is it hard to monger and set up dates during holy season? Are restaurants and bars still open? Or are they closed / no drinking.I am not sure how the combination of Ramadan and constantly changing covid regulations will affect exactly what is open, but generally Ramadan is _not_ considered a good time to monger in Indonesia. In addition to some or many things being closed, many girls will go back to their villages for celebrations. There are stories from recent years here on the forum about people who went during Ramadan and didn't have a very good time. Search for "Ramadan" on the forum and you will find info.
Just want to let you know that visa on arrival is open for 23 countries, including the US. And if you're going to enter Bali, you don't need to be quarantined as long as you have all the vaccination and proof for your hotel's book for 8 days. Fell free to clarify or correct me if I'm wrong.
Ggekko2009
03-09-22, 20:47
Just want to let you know that visa on arrival is open for 23 countries, including the US. And if you're going to enter Bali, you don't need to be quarantined as long as you have all the vaccination and proof for your hotel's book for 8 days. Fell free to clarify or correct me if I'm wrong.That is good news if VOA is reinstated. I have not seen anything yet online over this, maybe this policy change has just been made and not published anywhere yet. I just need to wait for their quarantine requirement to be reversed for entry into Jakarta.
By the way, for other readers who are unaware, just plan for a trip after Ramadan which is after May 2nd. It is not worth visiting Jakarta during the ramadan period since most girls will have gone back to their villages. Also, this is also the month where they will be planning to atone their past sins. After that, they can start accumulating new ones after they have completed their atonement. That is when they will open up to their wild side again.
WeKilledKenny
03-10-22, 01:20
I just saw it on Indonesia's Immigration website. I don't mind the requirement to stay 4 consecutive days in Bali. But can anyone else confirm if it will be possible to fly to Jakarta (after those 4 days) for my monger fill then fly home from there?
BenderOver
03-10-22, 08:32
I am not sure how the combination of Ramadan and constantly changing covid regulations will affect exactly what is open, but generally Ramadan is _not_ considered a good time to monger in Indonesia. In addition to some or many things being closed, many girls will go back to their villages for celebrations. There are stories from recent years here on the forum about people who went during Ramadan and didn't have a very good time. Search for "Ramadan" on the forum and you will find info.During the one to two weeks after ramadan ends is the Eid celebration. Most of the working class of Indonesia return to their hometowns to celebrate with their family. How's the selection during this time? Is it slim pickings because the girls return home too?
During the one to two weeks after ramadan ends is the Eid celebration. Most of the working class of Indonesia return to their hometowns to celebrate with their family. How's the selection during this time? Is it slim pickings because the girls return home too?You're correct that Ramadan generally and Idul Fitri can be very lean times. Especially for those without existing contacts. However, the couple of weeks before the exodus can be very good as part timers are keen to make some money to fund the trip and the gifts that are expected of a well to do city girl when she arrives back in the province.
I just saw it on Indonesia's Immigration website. I don't mind the requirement to stay 4 consecutive days in Bali. But can anyone else confirm if it will be possible to fly to Jakarta (after those 4 days) for my monger fill then fly home from there?After the 4 days, assuming a negative second PCR test, you are free to check out of your hotel and travel anywhere in Indonesia.
https://bali.com/news/corona-updates/news-new-quarantine-regulations-bali/
Thanks Hilo. That's an excellent point. I forgot about Ramadan. This might be stupid question, but is it hard to monger and set up dates during holy season? Are restaurants and bars still open? Or are they closed / no drinking.As others have said, it's Indonesia so nothing is impossible. Girls will be looking to make money in the first few weeks of Ramadan to buy nice clothes and gifts for going back to their hometown. If you go to your favourite bar you'll find it's turned into a restaurant, all the booze has been taken off the shelves and the beer taps covered up, the waitresses will be wearing modest clothing and serving you drinks in tea cups. A favourite masseuse informed me that the spa would be closing for the month, so if I needed her she would be operating out of a hotel room and just give her a call. So, it's doable, if you have a list of contacts and you know where to look, but why bother? Just go somewhere else for the month. And of course during the (now almost week-long) Idul Fitri holiday at the end of the month Jakarta becomes a virtual ghost town with absolutely nothing available, you really don't want to be there then unless you enjoy empty streets and deserted shopping malls.
Here are a couple of links I found useful. Quarantine in Jakarta is now only 24 hours for fully vaccinated people. I heard from friends that the process upon arrival at the airport in Jakarta can take a few hours and is cumbersome.
https://www.imigrasi.go.id/en/2022/03/06/siaran-pers-visa-kunjungan-saat-kedatangan-visa-on-arrival-khusus-wisata-resmi-dibuka-untuk-wna-dari-23-negara/
https://kemlu.go.id/losangeles/en/news/11727/update-indonesia-travel-restrictions
Banana Boi
03-12-22, 19:28
Foreign travelers must show a negative RT-PCR test result in the country or region of origin which samples were taken within a maximum period of 2 x 24 hours before the departure time.
All international travelers (Indonesian citizen and Foreign citizen) are required to quarantine with the following categories:
Quarantine period 1 x 24 hours for those who have received second and third dose of vaccination.
Quarantine period 7 x 24 hours for those who have received the first dose of vaccination.
Foreign travelers who enter Indonesia through Batam, Bintan and Bali are required to carry out RT-PCR on the third day after arrival. With a negative result, foreign travelers could continue the activities while still implementing strict health protocols.
Foreign travelers who enter Indonesia through Batam, Bintan and Bali could leave for other destinations, with the following requirements:
A negative RT-PCR test result;
For foreign travelers who enter travel to Bali should be staying within minimum period of four days;
Comply with health protocols and requirements for foreign travelers in the destination country/regionFrom Cucumber's thread, am I interpreting this right? I can fly directly to Jakarta if I am from one of the 23 approved countries and have a negative PCR test 48 hours before departure. If I have 3 shots, there is no COVID testing at all upon arrival to Jakarta only a 24 hour quarantine.
If so, why would anyone fly directly to Bali, Bintan, and Batam, be unable to leave for 4 days, and risk being quarantined after a mandatory PCR test on day 3?
Am I correct to assume there is no Visa paperwork to do before I arrive. Just land and get my passport stamped?
Christian G
03-12-22, 21:20
From Cucumber's thread, am I interpreting this right? I can fly directly to Jakarta if I am from one of the 23 approved countries and have a negative PCR test 48 hours before departure. If I have 3 shots, there is no COVID testing at all upon arrival to Jakarta only a 24 hour quarantine.
If so, why would anyone fly directly to Bali, Bintan, and Batam, be unable to leave for 4 days, and risk being quarantined after a mandatory PCR test on day 3?
Am I correct to assume there is no Visa paperwork to do before I arrive. Just land and get my passport stamped?https://bali.com/news/corona-updates/news-new-quarantine-regulations-bali/
https://www.letsmoveindonesia.com/visa-on-arrival-available-again-for-23-nationalities-flying-direct-to-bali/
No, you can fly only on Bali for VoA. There is a pcr test on arrival, then a pcr on day 3.
This time, I explore to the sawah besar area and visit this place called zaigon. The place is not as big as classic or malioboro but its pretty nice. The inside is practically like a lounge but in smaller scales. The ladies is not there so the GRO usually show the pictures through tablet. Once you decide, they will ask wether you want to use facilities first. So, I just relaxed at the whirpool and the sauna first. Once finished, they bring me to the room upstairs. The girl that I picked is the same with the pictures, which have the complexity of the Indonesian girl. She told me to strip down and she did the same thing too. Then, I lay down and give me a good message. After that, she told me to flip and still continued to massaged me while give me kiss or two. Her body is pretty banging and she has a gun tattoo on her upper tight and a hellokitty on top of her butt. Then, she did a body massage which is ok, then we took a shower. After shower, the real shows begin and since I'm not that good with words, all can I say its pretty darn good. My high sc shhool friend works there and she kinda hook me up with this girl so that's why I'm pretty happy. Total cost with tips is like Rp. 850.000 which is not bad at all. Till the next journey then.
BenderOver
03-13-22, 07:56
From Cucumber's thread, am I interpreting this right? I can fly directly to Jakarta if I am from one of the 23 approved countries and have a negative PCR test 48 hours before departure. If I have 3 shots, there is no COVID testing at all upon arrival to Jakarta only a 24 hour quarantine.
If so, why would anyone fly directly to Bali, Bintan, and Batam, be unable to leave for 4 days, and risk being quarantined after a mandatory PCR test on day 3?
Am I correct to assume there is no Visa paperwork to do before I arrive. Just land and get my passport stamped?Whether that's your interpretation from Cucumber or not, it's rather irrelevant. The rule itself, which is more important, is that for VOA to kick in, you must arrive into Bali, Bintan, or Batam from one of the 23 approved countries, and follow the testing and quarantine procedures listed.
Arriving straight into Jakarta, you'll still need to pre-apply for a B211 A visa, do the tests and one day quarantine.
The Indo government is just so out of touch on how to simplify their own laws, I've given up being frustrated about it. There are a couple of questions that are still pertinent, asides from the elephant in the room "Why the hell are the testing and quarantine requirements so confusing and unnecessary?
So here are my questions:
1) I can bypass a B211 A visa for Indonesia by landing in Bali, follow test and quarantine procedures there, and fly to Jakarta from Bali on day 3?
2) If this is allowed, is quarantine still required in Jakarta?
My questions are probably moot by the time anyone reads it, as the government regulations will likely change again by then. Everyone's complaining why not reopen VOA everywhere and drop the bullshit quarantine requirements.
BenderOver
03-13-22, 08:03
You're correct that Ramadan generally and Idul Fitri can be very lean times. Especially for those without existing contacts. However, the couple of weeks before the exodus can be very good as part timers are keen to make some money to fund the trip and the gifts that are expected of a well to do city girl when she arrives back in the province.Thanks Goferring. I'm still a touch confused though. I thought Ramandan was the 30 days of fasting, and Idul Fitri was the end of the fasting period, thus the 31st day. What I saw was people fasting for 30 days, then disappear for 10 days at their village. Which two weeks are you referring to that the girls are hard up for cash to bring back to desa? I completely agree with you and believe that circumstance exists. But I'm just terrible at understanding when the best hunting time is!
Ramadan starts April 2 and ends May 2 this year. Idul Fitri is from May 2 to May 3. Celebrating at hometown village would typically run from May 2 to May 12 depending on how generous your boss is or how long the office will be closed.
BTW, if anyone's curious, Idul Fitri is the bahasa way of saying Eid al-Fitr which is the arabian way of saying the same thing.
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1) I can bypass a B211 A visa for Indonesia by landing in Bali, follow test and quarantine procedures there, and fly to Jakarta from Bali on day 3?
2) If this is allowed, is quarantine still required in Jakarta?I am not 100% sure about this, but this is my impression:
1) Yes. But I am not sure whether it is day 3 or 4 you can fly onwards to Jakarta.
2) No I don't think you need to quarantine in Jakarta if you come via Bali.
Offshore Swell
03-13-22, 14:13
You're correct that Ramadan generally and Idul Fitri can be very lean times. Especially for those without existing contacts. However, the couple of weeks before the exodus can be very good as part timers are keen to make some money to fund the trip and the gifts that are expected of a well to do city girl when she arrives back in the province.Yup!,too true. Unfortunately all those nice policemen have families in the provinces too. You should consider it an environment of elevated risk and reward.
It has been some time since we heard any stories of actual bonking here, I just can't get excited about this state of endless visa hypotheticals. Has anybody got any adventures to tell?. What about you all tell us about your biggest punting fails. Get things moving again.
OS.
Yup!,too true. Unfortunately all those nice policemen have families in the provinces too. You should consider it an environment of elevated risk and reward.
It has been some time since we heard any stories of actual bonking here, I just can't get excited about this state of endless visa hypotheticals. Has anybody got any adventures to tell?. What about you all tell us about your biggest punting fails. Get things moving again.
OS.Again, your correct. Don't ask how I know its not a good look to be driving back from a disco at 4 am with a GF and a slew of her buddies in the car, 1/2 oz of clothing between all of them, and straight into a road block. Even I thought we looked guilty. In a fit of Imperial Superiority I was refusing to pay anything, the girls screaming at the cops 'Don't call me a hooker!' The 70 k 'fine' for not handing over my passport was cheap entertainment.
Punting fails? What do you mean?? In 30 years nothing has ever gone wrong. LOL.
Perhaps you are thinking of staggering home, girl in tow, forgetting my hotel's name and taxi-ing around Bandung for a couple of hours trying to find which Room 37 was mine.
Or having a girl disappear into the bathroom, injest some magical pixy dust and start running laps around the room, bouncing from desk to drawer to bed to chair, lap after lap. I had to crash tackle her just to get her to stop. While fucking her, she would not shut up, yapping away about God knows what. The night was so bad that it was laughable. I bumped into her a second time years later. She was obviously totally wired again: eyes the size of dinner plates and stabbing her nasi goreng with a vengeance that Ted Bundy would be proud of. I was with business associates so I prayed that she didn't recognise me before I bid a hasty retreat.
Enjoy. G.
Christian G
03-13-22, 20:46
I am not 100% sure about this, but this is my impression:
1) Yes. But I am not sure whether it is day 3 or 4 you can fly onwards to Jakarta.
You need to take a pcr test on day 3 and waiting for result, so you can flight out day 4.
"If the second test is negative, you can check out the next day and then go to other hotels or other islands".
https://bali.com/news/corona-updates/news-new-quarantine-regulations-bali/
BenderOver
03-14-22, 19:07
You need to take a pcr test on day 3 and waiting for result, so you can flight out day 4.
"If the second test is negative, you can check out the next day and then go to other hotels or other islands".
https://bali.com/news/corona-updates/news-new-quarantine-regulations-bali/Thanks for the info!
BenderOver
03-14-22, 19:30
Has anybody got any adventures to tell?. What about you all tell us about your biggest punting fails. Get things moving again.I was in Jakarta during the Covid and was just too damn busy to report about it. Generally speaking, most of the the punting locations that survived the pandemic were open. I spent most of my time at KI and be-Fashion where the massage area is covertly open again. Tinder was a a failure for me, and that's where I'll spend this post talking about punting fails.
I have my Tinder filter set to 18 to 22 and I purposefully fucked up my search this way. As an older guy, I'm pretty sure I was just going to get flakes, ho's, or just total messes swiping right with me, and I wasn't wrong. If you've heard stories of success and massive amounts of cheap if not free sex found on Tinder, I'm pretty sure the person was filtering 28 to 40 year old. Under the 18 to 22 category, I ended up getting hits where the young ladies are asking for 3 M for ST. After over 30 matches, I ended up connecting with 2. Those are shitty odds!
Why the shitty odds? Over half of the matches stop chatting after the first few lines of dialog. They send you how much, how long, what they do and won't do. You reply back "Can I get a recent photo?" Answer is NO. And from there silence.
Of the two, I had one pretty good success. She was 22 and looked it. But damn she told me she popped out a daughter with her ex-husband at the age of 15. Single mother with a 7 year old daughter, no husband. Her face was smoking hot, in photos (which I won't post) and in person. She was an utter goddess. However, her body while looking like a smokeshow in her tight elegant dress turned out being quite out of shape and soft even though she wasn't at all heavy or fat. Her body just showed torment from having a kid so young, most of the damage was done to her boobs and hips. Her BBBJ and her moves were like the most erotic porn. Super sexy. But the BBFS vag was coarse and felt like a leather hole I was slipping into lubricated with spit. I couldn't salvage the situation with anal as she already told me should couldn't do it. I did finish the session and she offered to extend to LT "for whatever I wanted to give extra". In the morning, the sex was really pretty good. All in all, I liked her personality and her face, so I completely overtipped her and was happy about it (I gave her 3 M). She was shocked to receive that much from me and I was happy to do it. I would recommend, and possibly repeat, but I'm an addict of tight bodies, so "no baby" is my preference when in Jakarta.
The other session was a total cluster fuck. The photos this 18 year old sent to me were very pretty. I even video called her and she was very pretty. This is where it gets fucking unbelievable. She wanted 400 k for transportation round trip to come visit me. Now she's in jaksel and I'm in jakpus. What the hell 400 k round trip? But she looked so good, I relented. Then she wanted a gift of 400 k and she had told me that she wanted a boyfriend and no sex. I was willing to sacrifice a little bait to see how this would end up, so I relented to that also. So far 800 k committed to just her coming by and having dinner with me (which I'm paying for of course). Well this date happens (she didn't take a Bluebird, she motor'd over to me) and she hung out for 3 hours. When I first saw her, I was shocked as how ugly and how dark she turned out to be in person. I was shocked because I had seen a dozen photos of her and VC live with her. What kind of fucking filter exists on whatsapp now a days? Hanging out for 3 hours, we ate, and went back to my place for some kissing and heavy petting. No hands down her pants and she wouldn't take off any clothes, but I roamed UTC north pretty freely. No body to speak of. So I left it at that, except for the fact that she message bombs me everyday thereafter asking me for more dates and more money. I reply no, I'm too busy. She even ultimately relents to having sex if I would see her again, but for 1 M. I'm no interested, so I delete her profile. She creates a new profile and hits me up. OMG. Stalker. We never connected again after that first time.
I got to Jakarta. The business visa process is expensive (6-700 USD for the express (five working day) service) and really cumbersome). Lots of documentation and forms are required. One has to download an app. Etc, etc. I was stuck three hours at the airport going through their extremely strangely organized system. Then taken by a dedicated driver to my pre-booked quarantine hotel. I reached the hotel at about 9 pm and was released again at 1130 am next morning. I would have needed that time to sleep off the flight anyway. So the quarantine is not a problem now, however the visa is a pain in the neck.
Today I went to Classic Hotel. Only the second floor is open. I got there at 10 pm and it was too late. There was a huge crowd, guys outnumbered women, dense smoke and a loud local rock band. I ended up getting cajoled into taking two chubby girls (which I generally I am not a big fan of). Ok service but nothing great. I guess I am out of practice when it comes to selection and negotiations. And I was too impatient. On the other hand, three different women hit on me as I was leaving after closing. In the many times I have been to Classic, I have never been able to pick up a girl on the outside after closure when they all flood out to go home. I look forward to further exploration.
I learned that Classic now opens at 2 pm and closes 1130 pm. Most girls arrive by 3 or 5 pm. Most guys come by 9 pm, maybe as early as 6 pm. So my plan is to go at about 4 and hope to hit the sweet spot.
My favorite restaurant, which used to be open more or less 24 hours, now closes by 12 pm. Things are generally open, but the scale is not the same as pre-pandemic. Face masks are widely used.
Axel Heyst
03-18-22, 20:44
I got to Jakarta. The business visa process is expensive (6-700 USD for the express (five working day) service) and really cumbersome). Lots of documentation and forms are required. One has to download an app. Etc, etc. I was stuck three hours at the airport going through their extremely strangely organized system. Then taken by a dedicated driver to my pre-booked quarantine hotel. I reached the hotel at about 9 pm and was released again at 1130 am next morning. I would have needed that time to sleep off the flight anyway. So the quarantine is not a problem now, however the visa is a pain in the neck.
Today I went to Classic Hotel. Only the second floor is open. I got there at 10 pm and it was too late. There was a huge crowd, guys outnumbered women, dense smoke and a loud local rock band. I ended up getting cajoled into taking two chubby girls (which I generally I am not a big fan of). Ok service but nothing great. I guess I am out of practice when it comes to selection and negotiations. And I was too impatient. On the other hand, three different women hit on me as I was leaving after closing. In the many times I have been to Classic, I have never been able to pick up a girl on the outside after closure when they all flood out to go home. I look forward to further exploration.
I learned that Classic now opens at 2 pm and closes 1130 pm. Most girls arrive by 3 or 5 pm. Most guys come by 9 pm, maybe as early as 6 pm. So my plan is to go at about 4 and hope to hit the sweet spot.
My favorite restaurant, which used to be open more or less 24 hours, now closes by 12 pm. Things are generally open, but the scale is not the same as pre-pandemic. Face masks are widely used.Great reportage Cucumber. It was almost like being there: the good & the bad. I am sure things will get better since you know what you are doing and seem quite capable of adapting to the current situation. Therefore I am looking forward to reading your following reports.
Thanks,
A. H.
Banana Boi
03-19-22, 06:56
I learned that Classic now opens at 2 pm and closes 1130 pm. Most girls arrive by 3 or 5 pm. Most guys come by 9 pm, maybe as early as 6 pm. So my plan is to go at about 4 and hope to hit the sweet spot.
Even pre-COVID I used to arrive at Classic between 4:30 to 6 pm, depending if I went to Kota Indah and/or Travel before of after. I found that the girls were there with much fewer guys.
My favorite restaurant, which used to be open more or less 24 hours, now closes by 12 pm. Jonisteak?
Looking forward to your reports.
Does anyone know what nightlife spots are open and good for picking up girls at the moment. I used to drop by CJs, but it seems it is closed. BATS seems to be open, but I never had much luck there before. And my impression of what is open and not may be wrong.
Went to Malio. Both parts of the complex are open and operate as usual. However, there are fewer girls and fewer customers. One can cross between the two parts via the corridors on the third floor, as previously.
Some of the girls in the club side (where there is scantily clad dancers and a mezzanine) are really pretty. However the price is 3 million rupiah for an hour. Some were so gorgeous I was considering giving it a shot, but the two most beautiful ones claimed to be on their period. So I gave out a few lady drinks, flirted, kissed and messed around a bit and moved on to the other part. When I got the other part I was immediately approached by waitresses and mamasans. I said I wanted to wait and look a bit, so they left me alone. The problem was that after that it was almost impossible to get their attention again. And negotiating directly with the girls there doesn't work so well. But in the end I managed to re-engage one of the mamas and she found me a girl. Not such a pretty face but nice body and since I was getting desperate I went with the flow. She was 20 years old, body even better naked than I had expected, rock hard. Said she had never been with a foreigner before and seemed a little nervous. Very willing to French kiss, but didn't know how. Would stick her tongue out as far as possible through closed limps and let me suck on it. I got her to open her mouth, but then she opened it and withdrew her tongue. Evidently she needs to watch more Hollywood movies! I still enjoyed it as it was clear that she genuinely didn't have a lot of experience. She seemed to enjoy my DATY and was nice and tight. One of those Indo girls who naturally has very sparse pubic hair. Got to love it.
They closed at 24:00 and I finished with the girl at 23:45 and was going to leave, but then one of the mamasans got hold of me and started encouraging me to take another. Said it was ok to stay for another hour as long as we went to the room before 24:00. Came up with a very beautiful girl. Apparently it was the girl who had encouraged the mama to get hold of me. Again I went with the flow. She turned out to be 24,2 kids, but still a lovely body and really pretty face. Big and quite saggy breasts, which is something I have started enjoying recently. Another one with sparse pubes. Super enthusiastic, eager to blow me, eager for DATY, happy to kiss. Also super talkative. But only in Indonesian. I tried to intervene with Google translate whenever I had a chance. Turned out she lived very close to my hotel, and she wanted to come back in my taxi. So we met up again outside Malio, went back to our neighborhood, had a late dinner, some beers and smoke together and then parted ways. She wanted to come back to my place, but I had important work to do (write this report!) - so I had to give it a miss this time.
BenderOver
03-20-22, 06:51
I got to Jakarta. The business visa process is expensive (6-700 USD for the express (five working day) service) and really cumbersome). Lots of documentation and forms are required. One has to download an app. Etc, etc. I was stuck three hours at the airport going through their extremely strangely organized system. Then taken by a dedicated driver to my pre-booked quarantine hotel. I reached the hotel at about 9 pm and was released again at 1130 am next morning. I would have needed that time to sleep off the flight anyway. So the quarantine is not a problem now, however the visa is a pain in the neck.
Today I went to Classic Hotel. Only the second floor is open. I got there at 10 pm and it was too late. There was a huge crowd, guys outnumbered women, dense smoke and a loud local rock band. I ended up getting cajoled into taking two chubby girls (which I generally I am not a big fan of). Ok service but nothing great. I guess I am out of practice when it comes to selection and negotiations. And I was too impatient. On the other hand, three different women hit on me as I was leaving after closing. In the many times I have been to Classic, I have never been able to pick up a girl on the outside after closure when they all flood out to go home. I look forward to further exploration.
I learned that Classic now opens at 2 pm and closes 1130 pm. Most girls arrive by 3 or 5 pm. Most guys come by 9 pm, maybe as early as 6 pm. So my plan is to go at about 4 and hope to hit the sweet spot.
My favorite restaurant, which used to be open more or less 24 hours, now closes by 12 pm. Things are generally open, but the scale is not the same as pre-pandemic. Face masks are widely used.Nice going, Cucumber. Yes those services are pricey. I got my visa through a work associate and it only cost him in total 950 k IDR. That about 70 USD. But if you don't have the contact, then those services are the only way to go.
Go check out be Fashion Spa on the 9th floor if you get a chance. It's at the be-Fashion Hotel near taman anggrek mall. About 700 k for an in house masseuse, 1. 1 M for a freelance. Their selection have hot young ladies in both categories, and while I stick pretty exclusively with the in house masseuse, I've seldom been disappointed. I promised myself the next time I go there, I won't cheap out on picking a freelance if she's the hottest in the room.
those prices are without tip, but do include 90 minutes, half in massage and half in making love. I reserve another 100k to 200k for tip after cfs or 300k to 400k for tip after bbfs.
Cucumber. Thanks you for the post. But why did you apply for business visa? Why not just take the tourist visa so there is no big hassle? I am curious, because I am planning to come Jakarta in a few weeks from UK and while I have some work meetings, I will just apply tourist so avoid taxes and the fees.
And please keep us update with your activities. I hope Jakarta will be fun for monger when I arrives.
I got to Jakarta. The business visa process is expensive (6-700 USD for the express (five working day) service) and really cumbersome). Lots of documentation and forms are required. One has to download an app. Etc, etc. I was stuck three hours at the airport going through their extremely strangely organized system. Then taken by a dedicated driver to my pre-booked quarantine hotel. I reached the hotel at about 9 pm and was released again at 1130 am next morning. I would have needed that time to sleep off the flight anyway. So the quarantine is not a problem now, however the visa is a pain in the neck.
Today I went to Classic Hotel. Only the second floor is open. I got there at 10 pm and it was too late. There was a huge crowd, guys outnumbered women, dense smoke and a loud local rock band. I ended up getting cajoled into taking two chubby girls (which I generally I am not a big fan of). Ok service but nothing great. I guess I am out of practice when it comes to selection and negotiations. And I was too impatient. On the other hand, three different women hit on me as I was leaving after closing. In the many times I have been to Classic, I have never been able to pick up a girl on the outside after closure when they all flood out to go home. I look forward to further exploration..
Banana Boi
03-21-22, 06:11
really pretty. However the price is 3 million rupiah for an hour. Some were so gorgeous I was considering giving it a shot, Wow that's around 8 girls at Classic / Travel / Kota Indah, etc. Too rich for me.
Anyone been to one of the Kimochi Mabes lately?
Cucumber. Thanks you for the post. But why did you apply for business visa? A Tourist Visa on Arrival allows entry into Bali only not Jakarta. To enter via Jakarta a Business or Residency Visa is required.
After entering Bali and passing the required checks anyone is free to travel to other areas.
Is anyone familiar with or had actual experience with Massage Republic recently?
Ggekko2009
03-21-22, 15:18
A Tourist Visa on Arrival allows entry into Bali only not Jakarta. To enter via Jakarta a Business or Residency Visa is required.
After entering Bali and passing the required checks anyone is free to travel to other areas.No more quarantine. Waiting to see if VOA will be reinstated in Jakarta too.
https://www.todayonline.com/world/covid-19-indonesia-scraps-quarantine-overseas-arrivals-1850076
I was in Jakarta during the Covid and was just too damn busy to report about it. Generally speaking, most of the the punting locations that survived the pandemic were open. I spent most of my time at KI and be-Fashion where the massage area is covertly open again. Tinder was a a failure for me, and that's where I'll spend this post talking about punting fails.
I have my Tinder filter set to 18 to 22 and I purposefully fucked up my search this way. As an older guy, I'm pretty sure I was just going to get flakes, ho's, or just total messes swiping right with me, and I wasn't wrong. If you've heard stories of success and massive amounts of cheap if not free sex found on Tinder, I'm pretty sure the person was filtering 28 to 40 year old. Under the 18 to 22 category, I ended up getting hits where the young ladies are asking for 3 M for ST. After over 30 matches, I ended up connecting with 2. Those are shitty odds!
I have been busted off Tinder on four occasions by now, I have no idea why, perhaps because I post my WA number in my profile or I use a candid picture of a not especially famous or handsome UK sports personality in his 50's as my pic and maybe someone reverse searches it, I don't know, not a big deal.
I find it's a great source of semi-pro girls, students, office girls, bored housewives and the like. I generally skip the ones who post pics of themselves in fabulous bars in Bali or on expensive trips overseas, they are going to have high-falutin' ideas about themselves, I also swipe left on the very beautiful model types, as I know they won't be low-balling their opening bids. Set the age range at 18-30, ignore anyone whose greeting is "Hello, where you stay apartemen or hotel?" and engage in conversation with those you do match and you'll do just fine (jilbab wearers, who aren't trying to sell trading schemes, are a great source of untapped potential). Not five-star catwalk models or A-list sinetron artis, but a lot of nice, easy-going young women happy to earn a bit of pin money (600-800 k) meeting a decent guy for a bit of discreet fun in the afternoon. And I know you don't believe it but yes, there are genuinely nice girls just looking for a good old-fashioned ride with some guy who won't come back and cause them problems later and who are happy enough to engage for free.
The OP asked for fails, oh there are plenty of them but they make the successes all the better. I remember one "girl", with great pics and a nice patter who agreed to meet me at my hotel. I got the message and went down to the lobby, holy sheet, there stood the ugliest bencong I ever clapped eyes on, looking at me expectantly as if I was going to say "well you're not what I expected but you're a pleasant surprise, let's pop in the lift and get on with it". I was so gobsmacked I was literally speechless, I just gave him or her a 50 k note and shook my head, s / he shrugged their shoulders and left. I looked over to the lobby security guy, who was well familiar with me and my taste and I could see he was on the point of peeing himself with laughter. I re-entered the lift, still shaking my head, and went back to my room with all the dignity I could muster. Thankfully, the next guest I had lined up agreed to come early and she more than made up for my shock and disappointment.
Another weird aspect of Tinder is discovering how many women, mostly single, well-educated and in their mid to late 20's, are into seriously rough sex. I don't mean a bit of light spanking, I mean full-on, serious whipping, bondage, gagging and humiliation. I finally drew the line at one woman, a senior tech services officer at a major bank, who wanted me to, ah you know what, there's no need for me to tell you. But I do sometimes wonder whether plain vanilla sex is somehow losing its attraction, I blame all that porn they are watching on their phones at night in their kos-kosans.
Anyway, later this week I expect to finally close a deal I have been working on for some weeks. A marketing consultant with a Korean electronics company, 28 years old, divorced, no kids, wears the headscarf. I have been sweet-talking her for a while and she finally conceded that it has been a long time since she had a good seeing-to and yes, other than some bloke in Kazakhstan she has been chatting to online, I am her best offer. So we'll see how that goes, and when she returns home, in her own car so no thought of taxi money, I have an unemployed SPG lined up for the second half (she will expect reimbursement).
Maybe I might re-activate my Tinder account.
Day 3.
I was pressed for time so I just dropped by Classic for a quickie. Nothing to write home about.
Day 4.
Moved on to Travel Hotel. It was as it always has been, but with fewer girls and more chubby girls. It does have one big advantage now though, and that is that it stays open to 2 am. As usual they were pushing their threesomes. One girl is 375 000 or something like that for an hour (ends up being 400 000 when they press you for a tip). Two girls is just 500 000 (35 USD! However, it is never worth it. Better to go for just one girl at a time and hope and work for good chemistry.
The lady in the reception was also encouraging me to go up to somewhere on the second floor for a massage. I think she said 300 000 Rupiah for two hours (no sex). It sounded tempting, if only I had had more time and didn't need feel obliged to satisfy the sexual needs of so many young maidens.
In the late evening it is eerily quiet. Most restaurants close at 8 or 9 pm, even those that were previously open 24/7. By 11 pm most of the city is dead. Classic, Malio, and Travel are all operating at ca 40% of regular capacity.
And there are so many chubby girls, not to mention guys. I don't know whether the pandemic exacerbated it, but to me it seems Indonesia is headed for a big wave of obesity.
Banana Boi
03-22-22, 19:51
No more quarantine. Waiting to see if VOA will be reinstated in Jakarta too.
https://www.todayonline.com/world/covid-19-indonesia-scraps-quarantine-overseas-arrivals-1850076Fingers crossed.
Fingers crossed.Just enter via Bali. 3 nights later you can go anywhere in Indonesia. Even for the 3N /4D you can go anywhere inside or outside your hotel in Bali. No Quarantine nor confined to hotel premises.
That's available now to most passport holders
Sorry about the radio silence. I got busy. I left Jakarta yesterday and now in Singapore. Need to deal with some other stuff but will fill you in on my last days in Jakarta as soon as I can.
I finally found the time to write up the impressions from the last days before I left Jakarta. Unfortunately I am already forgetting stuff, as some nice time with a freebie regular of mine here in Singapore erases other memories.
I know that for some of the old-timers on the forum some of my info is stuff they know very well and that has been discussed on the forum before. But I am writing for everybody.
In the last days I revisited Classic, Travel and Malioboro. Confirmed the impressions I have already provided here on the forum. If you are willing to trawl through some girls, you can find gems at both Classic and Travel. It is also important not to let the mamasans steer you too much. They are pushy, but you take the decisions.
Some girls are willing to meet up in their spare time. They often ask for a lot of money for that, like 2 million for a night, but quickly come down.
Malioboro is a notch up from Classic and Travel. If you go to the club part (further away from the street), enter, go up to the mezzanine overlooking the dancers and stand there a bit, groups of girls will start approaching you, flirting for lady drinks. They are dancers waiting for their turn. Some of them are are e a l l why hot. But they cost something like 3. 2 million.
I also managed to get to the Kota Indah you-shaped alley just off Jalan Pangeran Jayakarta. This is a rough-looking alley where people go out drinking and partying. It looks a bit like a Thai alley, but darker and rougher, with a bunch of relatively small bars a few feet apart: Starmoon, Sari Ayu, New Sari Ayu, Grand LA, MTR. Usually they are packed with happy, drunk, smoking locals. Rowdy but friendly. Layout is a bit like an American diner, but at the back there is an area with perhaps 20 girls, and mamasans handling transactions. Rooms are upstairs. Before the pandemic there were some problems with police raids in this area. The police would go into one of the bars, lock the doors and search everybody for drugs before letting them out. Don't know whether this is a risk now. I went there with a well to do local acquaintance, and he was frightened to go there. Thought it could be dangerous. But he was afraid of the locals, not the police. I still had a great time there. Price is same as Classic and Travel, 400 000 rupiah per hour. However, the rooms and showers are a good bit rougher. At Classic, Travel, Malioboro they are always spotless.
In return, my local acquaintance took me to his kind of place. Further south. Called Zen. No obvious entrance. Go to the back of an office block, up a staircase and suddenly you are in this club. He said much, much better, but more expensive. It was more expensive, but not better. About 40 girls on offer. Three categories: 3 million, 4 million and 5 million, per girl per hour. They were more pale-skinned, wore lots of heavy "Western"-style clothes, makeup caked on their faces, taller, much chunkier (big square hips). Waste of money as far as I am concerned.
One of the girls told me a lot about how things are organized. Classic, Travel, Malio, Kings Cross and Sumo all have the same owner. They live in dorms controlled by the club. 3-4 girls in each room with bunks. 56 girls in one house. I have seen videos of the inside, and they don't look too rough. Many girls come in on a contract, which means they get a loan and then have to work it off. If you pay 375 000 for an hour, the girl gets about 95 000 out of that. So she is living off the tips. Please bear that in mind and be generous. I tip heavily for good performance. Out of 20 girls, I may pay a tip of 1 million to the 1-2 best, 700 000 to a couple of them, 4-500 000 to many of them and 2-300 000 to the weaker performers. 0 tip is only if a girl really creates problems or something. Some people would probably say I overpay, but I don't think they respect the girls. I try to be nice, caring, and generous. I think it's the right thing to do in itself, it also gives some really nice interaction.
The girl also told me she used to make 10 million per month, now it is more like 5 million. There are much fewer customers and much fewer girls, everything is kind of quiet. She is very good with people, so I expect she earns more than many of the others. They have an antigen test every third day. Medical checkups every three months, including HIV test and full gynaecological examination she claimed, but I am not sure. As per ISG rules I am not permitted to write about my own observations concerning venereal diseases, so you are on your own there.
People wear face masks a lot. Security guards at the entrances to buildings remind people to put them on before going in. Evenings are quiet. Streetside stalls selling nasi goreng still operate until midnight or a bit later, but most restaurants close very early. Kings Cross and Sumo are closed, I was told. CJs is also closed, not clear when they will open (I called them and checked). At the moment Jakarta is not what it used to be. But I expect it to bounce back at some point.
Ggekko2009
03-28-22, 21:34
I know that for some of the old-timers on the forum some of my info is stuff they know very well and that has been discussed on the forum before. But I am writing for everybody.
It has been a while since there has been any report on this since the pandemic, so you might actually one of the first to report on it.
One of the girls told me a lot about how things are organized. Classic, Travel, Malio, Kings Cross and Sumo all have the same owner. They live in dorms controlled by the club. 3-4 girls in each room with bunks. 56 girls in one house. I have seen videos of the inside, and they don't look too rough. Many girls come in on a contract, which means they get a loan and then have to work it off. If you pay 375 000 for an hour, the girl gets about 95 000 out of that. So she is living off the tips. Please bear that in mind and be generous. I tip heavily for good performance. Out of 20 girls, I may pay a tip of 1 million to the 1-2 best, 700 000 to a couple of them, 4-500 000 to many of them and 2-300 000 to the weaker performers. 0 tip is only if a girl really creates problems or something. Some people would probably say I overpay, but I don't think they respect the girls. I try to be nice, caring, and generous. I think it's the right thing to do in itself, it also gives some really nice interaction.
The girl also told me she used to make 10 million per month, now it is more like 5 million. There are much fewer customers and much fewer girls, everything is kind of quiet. She is very good with people, so I expect she earns more than many of the others. They have an antigen test every third day. Medical checkups every three months, including HIV test and full gynaecological examination she claimed, but I am not sure. As per ISG rules I am not permitted to write about my own observations concerning venereal diseases, so you are on your own there.
Glad to see that you are not one of those Cheap Charlies. Yeah, tip the girl well since they don't really earn much and a significant chunk on what you pay on the bill goes to the mafia. If you listen from the girls, they charge all sorts of expenses on these girls and one wonder how they would ever get away from their financial bondage.
People wear face masks a lot. Security guards at the entrances to buildings remind people to put them on before going in. Evenings are quiet. Streetside stalls selling nasi goreng still operate until midnight or a bit later, but most restaurants close very early. Kings Cross and Sumo are closed, I was told. CJs is also closed, not clear when they will open (I called them and checked). At the moment Jakarta is not what it used to be. But I expect it to bounce back at some point.I reckon CJ might still be closed since many foreigners are still not able to go to Jakarta without going through all the hoops. Hope it bounces back soon as you said to pre-pandemic time. My only recourse is to use Seeking or SA to connect with those new freelancers should I visit Jakarta again this year.
Thanks for the great reports Cucumber. I will be in Jakarta in a few weeks and seek the good times. I think I will try my luck on Seeking (SA) as I am a bit of a timid monger and not sure how comfortable I will feel at some of these massage establishments.
But I will make sure to detail my experiences. I am interested to hear how Singers will treat you, as OT, Geylang and Brix are closed from what I heard.
At the moment Jakarta is not what it used to be. But I expect it to bounce back at some point.
Banana Boi
03-31-22, 05:45
Thanks so much for the reports, Cucumber. Much appreciated.
Sad Kelapa Gading isn't up and running.
Thanks for the great reports Cucumber. I will be in Jakarta in a few weeks and seek the good times. I think I will try my luck on Seeking (SA) as I am a bit of a timid monger and not sure how comfortable I will feel at some of these massage establishments.
But I will make sure to detail my experiences. I am interested to hear how Singers will treat you, as OT, Geylang and Brix are closed from what I heard.I would not go to Jakarta in the month of Ramadan. Ramadan is slower than the rest of the year, and now everything is slower due to covid. The combination of Ramadan and covid regulations does not bode well for mongering IMHO.
If you are really timid, why go with an online dating service like Seeking? I would think it takes a more braveness and self-confidence to meet up with a girl you met there, as it is just the two of you and the onus is on you and her. If you go to one of the big establishments in Jakarta (Travel, Classic, Malioboro), it is just like going to a relaxed bar. Except that you don't have to chat up anybody whatsoever, the mamasans will take care of that (thoroughly). Hell, they'll match you up with a girl even if you are asleep. To me it seems like the perfect solution for a timid guy. Go to Classic at 4 pm and it won't be too loud, there won't be many guys and there will be a lot of girls available. The mamas will bring them to you one or two at a time. You have a look, maybe ask a few questions and then choose.
Here in Singapore I have a civilian girlfriend and she is rather possessive, so no mongering for me here in any case. The upside is that I save some money which I can spend when I am back in a cheaper mongering location. And unlike the Jakarta girls who hardly speak a word of English, I can have a proper conversation with her. After a week of trying to communicate through Google translate, it is kind of nice to be with someone I can both have sex with and talk with in a meaningful way.
I would not go to Jakarta in the month of Ramadan. Ramadan is slower than the rest of the year, and now everything is slower due to covid. The combination of Ramadan and covid regulations does not bode well for mongering IMHO.
If you are really timid, why go with an online dating service like Seeking? I would think it takes a more braveness and self-confidence to meet up with a girl you met there, I'd agree that arriving in Jakarta in the middle of Ramadan may not be the ideal solution. Especially so for a timid first timer with no existing contacts or knowledge of where to go.
If United is locked into Jakarta during Ramadan, then I would use one of the less hardcore personals websites. Lots of semi civilian girls there are happy to play 'tourguide' with extras. It would be much easier to have a couple of these showing him around town, and the bedroom, than to find a solution for every new session.
If moving out of Jakarta is an option, then many girls are unreachable back at home but '000's also go in holiday to the places popular with Indos. Perhaps find a girl to show him around Bali, Jogjakarta etc. Lots to see and do there, girls will be more playful away from prying eyes at home, and there will be many girls there due to the cheap hotel and package prices currently being offered.
Enjoy. G.
Blanquiceleste
04-04-22, 10:01
Is there anyone on ground in Jakarta, to throw some light on the status of brothels like Classic, Travel and those around Kota Indah during this one month of Ramadan? I gather from recent reports that Kelapa Gading is closed and so is CJ / BATS. I hear Basque is open, but that place was less of a pick-up joint previously. The talent at CJs needs to put food on the table, and I am hoping they flock to places like Basque. There are also several other nightclubs that are popular with younger, more affluent civilians. But they might not be suitable for hobbying, unless you look like Brad Pitt and are loaded like Dan Bilzerian.
Can someone confirm the visa on arrival rules just changed for Jakarta? I have been googling daily, and one article says the 43 nationalities that previously could enter via Bali can now enter via Jakarta CGK.
Have trip planned may 29 to June 7 and booked flight back to Australia from BKK but really want to monger first time in Jakarta on the way there.
Ggekko2009
04-06-22, 18:10
Can someone confirm the visa on arrival rules just changed for Jakarta? I have been googling daily, and one article says the 43 nationalities that previously could enter via Bali can now enter via Jakarta CGK.
Have trip planned may 29 to June 7 and booked flight back to Australia from BKK but really want to monger first time in Jakarta on the way there.This is the latest update, things may change by then.
- VOA only applicable if you enter from Bali. To enter Jakarta, you need to apply for a visa. To have an Indonesian visa, you need someone from Indonesia to initiate that sponsorship.
- If you have passports from any of the ASEAN countries, you can enter via Jakarta without visa.
- No more quarantine.
That is as far as I know to date. Plan accordingly.
JamesXBrown
04-06-22, 19:32
This is the latest update, things may change by then.
- VOA only applicable if you enter from Bali. To enter Jakarta, you need to apply for a visa. To have an Indonesian visa, you need someone from Indonesia to initiate that sponsorship.
- If you have passports from any of the ASEAN countries, you can enter via Jakarta without visa.
- No more quarantine.
That is as far as I know to date. Plan accordingly.As far as I understand it, once you've entered at Bali, you can go anywhere in the country without further impediment. An open jaw ticket is the way to go I guess, into Bali, out from Jakarta.
And starting in Bali is not such a biggie. It's a nice enough place to spend a few days before jumping on a cheap as chips flight to Jakarta (or even taking the train across Java, something I've been meaning to do for years).
- VOA only applicable if you enter from Bali. To enter Jakarta, you need to apply for a visa.If you're coming now, enter at Bali, wait the couple of hours for your negative PCR done on arrival, then fly domestic to Jakarta. No Quarantine, no hotel stays, no travel restrictions. Easy But remember you will have Ramadan to deal with when you get to Jakarta.
If you're coming later, just wait: restrictions are being wound back quickly now. By the time you want to come, the rules will have likely changed.
FWIW, I'm in Bali now. Dead quiet here for tourists but heaps of girls. Unfortunately 99% have the typical Bali attitudes and pricing.
Enjoy G.
With all due respect, I don't think you guys have seen the latest press release from the Immigration department: https://www.imigrasi.go.id/en/2022/04/05/siaran-pers-voa-wisata-untuk-43-negara-wisatawan-asean-bisa-masuk-indonesia-bebas-visa/.
This new policy comes into effect on April 6, 2022 and accordingly, Circular Letter of the Director General of Immigration Number IMI-0532. GR. 01.01 of 2022 concerning Visit Visas on Special Arrivals for Tourism in Order to Support Sustainable Tourism in Bali During the 2019 Corona Virus Disease Pandemic and Circular Letter of the Director General of Immigration Number IMI-0533. GR. 01.01 of 2022 concerning Immigration Ease in Supporting Sustainable Tourism in the Batam and Bintan Areas During the Corona Virus Disease 2019 Pandemic is revoked and declared invalid.
"For now, there are seven airports, eight ports and four Cross-Border Posts designated as entry points for BVKKW / VKSKKW subjects. They cannot enter through another TPI if they want to use the facility. Different.
Immigration Checkpoints Designated as Entrances to BVKW and VKSKW Subject Countries.
TPI Airport:
Soekarno Hatta in DKI Jakarta.
Ngurah Rai in Bali.
Kualanamu in North Sumatra.
Juanda in East Java.
Hasanuddin in South Sulawesi.
Sam Ratulangi in North Sulawesi, and.
Yogyakarta in Yogyakarta.
BATS is open, but not every day, I believe Wednesday till Saturday.
Supposedly the brothels in PenJ are open, haven't verified myself but will do so the next few days or so.
VOA is available in Jakarta now as well, limited nationalities so make sure you're on "the list".
Papae Noel
04-07-22, 04:16
My bahasa is fairly limited. Using google translator:
VKSK. Visa Kejungan (Visit) Saat (current) Kedatangan (Arrival).
Anyone have the official requirements, such as insurance, pre arrival Covid test, etc?
Anyone have the official requirements, such as insurance, pre arrival Covid test, etc?VOA eVISA Conditions.
Passport must have a least a minimum of 6 months validty.
RETURN air flight ticket (or one way outward journey from Bali).
Must be full vaccinated with WHO authorized vaccinations, and the 2nd vaccination must have been given at least 14 days prior to departure.
A Negative COVID-19 PCR test (2 x 24 hours) before depature to Indonesia.
Vaccination proof can be uploaded as part of the eHAC requirement.
In case the system fails clients can present physical copy of EU or WHO Vaccination proofs (fully vaccinated).
Upon arrival at DPS Airport ground staff can help to integrate data into Peduli Lindungi APP.
Travel insurance with COVID-19 coverage per person (booking on line through: https://www.jagawisata.com/COVID19/). Or check with your CHSE certified accommodation if they offer the Jaga Wisata as part of the add on service when booking your stay.
Download Peduli Lindungi APP.
Register e-CD (Electronic Custom Declaration).
BenderOver
04-08-22, 07:39
This is my understanding as well. Only limited participants of ASEAN will have visa exemptions, but VOA gets you in and used to cost about US $37. Anyone know if it's the same price?
With all due respect, I don't think you guys have seen the latest press release from the Immigration department: https://www.imigrasi.go.id/en/2022/04/05/siaran-pers-voa-wisata-untuk-43-negara-wisatawan-asean-bisa-masuk-indonesia-bebas-visa/.
This new policy comes into effect on April 6, 2022 and accordingly, Circular Letter of the Director General of Immigration Number IMI-0532. GR. 01.01 of 2022 concerning Visit Visas on Special Arrivals for Tourism in Order to Support Sustainable Tourism in Bali During the 2019 Corona Virus Disease Pandemic and Circular Letter of the Director General of Immigration Number IMI-0533. GR. 01.01 of 2022 concerning Immigration Ease in Supporting Sustainable Tourism in the Batam and Bintan Areas During the Corona Virus Disease 2019 Pandemic is revoked and declared invalid.
"For now, there are seven airports, eight ports and four Cross-Border Posts designated as entry points for BVKKW / VKSKKW subjects. They cannot enter through another TPI if they want to use the facility. Different.
Immigration Checkpoints Designated as Entrances to BVKW and VKSKW Subject Countries.
TPI Airport:
Soekarno Hatta in DKI Jakarta.
Ngurah Rai in Bali.
Kualanamu in North Sumatra.
Juanda in East Java.
Hasanuddin in South Sulawesi.
Sam Ratulangi in North Sulawesi, and.
Yogyakarta in Yogyakarta.
VOA gets you in and used to cost about US $37. Anyone know if it's the same price?Yes, 500 k IDR. Honestly, don't care. Just want to come back to Jakarta.
Indonesia is opening up. And I cannot wait to fly over coming week. As some of you know, I like seedy places (e. G. PLTU - http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2429677#post2429677), I wonder how the situation is after 2 years of Covid.
Are the seedy places near (on) the train tracks still operational (one is called PLTU, the other I cannot remember?) or are they shut down? Are there any other seedy down market places that opened in the meanwhile?
Happy to report back after next week. This is more to manage my expectations / excitement.
Keen.
BATS is open, but not every day, I believe Wednesday till Saturday.
Supposedly the brothels in PenJ are open, haven't verified myself but will do so the next few days or so.
VOA is available in Jakarta now as well, limited nationalities so make sure you're on "the list".First time poster long time member. Going to Jakarta on 4/16. Used to go almost every month (2-year blue balls). Got dates lined up for the week with Badoo. Like to have backup plan incase the dates falls through, but with Ramadan, I think KI and Classic are closed.
Question: where / what is PenJ? Is that the gang alley by train track?
Thanks.
Indonesia is opening up. And I cannot wait to fly over coming week. As some of you know, I like seedy places (e. G. PLTU - http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2429677#post2429677), I wonder how the situation is after 2 years of Covid.
Are the seedy places near (on) the train tracks still operational (one is called PLTU, the other I cannot remember?) or are they shut down? Are there any other seedy down market places that opened in the meanwhile?
Happy to report back after next week. This is more to manage my expectations / excitement..Unfortunately, looks like there was a crack down for Ramadan. You can translate it using the translator function by right click in Chrome.
https://megapolitan.kompas.com/read/2022/04/01/09382491/jelang-ramadhan-petugas-gabungan-tertibkan-kafe-esek-esek-di-gang-royal?page=1
First time poster long time member. Going to Jakarta on 4/16. Used to go almost every month (2-year blue balls). Got dates lined up for the week with Badoo. Like to have backup plan incase the dates falls through, but with Ramadan, I think KI and Classic are closed.
Question: where / what is PenJ? Is that the gang alley by train track?
Thanks.Never mind, I found the answer. Penjaringan.
Indonesia is opening up. And I cannot wait to fly over coming week. As some of you know, I like seedy places (e. G. PLTU - http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2429677#post2429677), I wonder how the situation is after 2 years of Covid.
Are the seedy places near (on) the train tracks still operational (one is called PLTU, the other I cannot remember?) or are they shut down? Are there any other seedy down market places that opened in the meanwhile?
Happy to report back after next week. This is more to manage my expectations / excitement..Not sure, but I think one of these places has been replaced with a stadium?
Unfortunately, looks like there was a crack down for Ramadan. You can translate it using the translator function by right click in Chrome.
https://megapolitan.kompas.com/read/2022/04/01/09382491/jelang-ramadhan-petugas-gabungan-tertibkan-kafe-esek-esek-di-gang-royal?page=1Oh shot. Tried to get in before Ramadan but VOA was not available for Jakarta. Anyone been there since the crackdown? Has anyone noted that there are is higher risk to get in trouble for our activities during Ramadan?
Going to be in Jakarta layover, less than a day, in August, arrive at airport at 11:30 pm, out next day to Padang like early afternoon or something. So literally have 12 hours. I want to check into a place hotel, where all of the action in right there, no walking, no taxis, boom boom boom, as many chicas in that time period.
Suggestions? Do I get a room at Malio? So I have to go nowhere. I don't worry about the money because it's quick trip.
Other possibilities where I can have it all under one roof, maybe the Asian massage and the lounges etc. All under one roof.
Has anyone ever actually stayed at the Malio, or are those rooms basically just used for the clientele quickies.
Thanks.
Goferring and Cucumber. Thanks for the great advices on Jakarta experiences. Thankfully I will be in Jakarta second week of May, so I am hoping Ramadan will be over and ladies are ready for haram.
I will check out some of the places Cucumber recommended. I am staying near Plaza Indonesia and its not too far from the spas suggested by Cucumber. Any intel on Fortune Spa? That is near my hotel.
I have been setting up some dates on Seeking Arrangements, let see how that is goes.
Thanks and will report back my findings. Very glad that Jakarta finally opened VOA.
I'd agree that arriving in Jakarta in the middle of Ramadan may not be the ideal solution. Especially so for a timid first timer with no existing contacts or knowledge of where to go.
If United is locked into Jakarta during Ramadan, then I would use one of the less hardcore personals websites. Lots of semi civilian girls there are happy to play 'tourguide' with extras. It would be much easier to have a couple of these showing him around town, and the bedroom, than to find a solution for every new session.
If moving out of Jakarta is an option, then many girls are unreachable back at home but '000's also go in holiday to the places popular with Indos..
ClassicJakarta
04-12-22, 11:23
Its called gang Royal. And its open. I went there 2 days ago.
Never mind, I found the answer. Penjaringan.
SethMacfarlane
04-13-22, 03:28
If you're coming now, enter at Bali, wait the couple of hours for your negative PCR done on arrival, then fly domestic to Jakarta. No Quarantine, no hotel stays, no travel restrictions. Easy But remember you will have Ramadan to deal with when you get to Jakarta.
If you're coming later, just wait: restrictions are being wound back quickly now. By the time you want to come, the rules will have likely changed.
FWIW, I'm in Bali now. Dead quiet here for tourists but heaps of girls. Unfortunately 99% have the typical Bali attitudes and pricing.
Enjoy G.G. I've never been to Bali but I'm definitely dying to go. I've been to ph, vn. Could elaborate on the Bali attitude and pricing? Would it be ideal to head to Jak instead? After Ramadan of course.
G. I've never been to Bali but I'm definitely dying to go. I've been to ph, vn. Could elaborate on the Bali attitude and pricing? Would it be ideal to head to Jak instead? After Ramadan of course.Seth, I'm in Bali now. See my posts in the Bali Forum for info on quality, quantity, pricing and attitudes for everything from shabu babies to IG models. Note that restrictions are being wound back as we speak, foreign tourists are starting to arrive and the Java girls are flooding back in preparation. Jakarta is on track to be formalities free for entry soon.
Which is best, Jakarta or Bali? Happy to pay the price for easy access to stunners and no transport problems but don't care about attitudes, then go with Bali. Want vast choices from 300 k up, LT options with great fun attitudes and enjoy the general big city vibe then go with Jakarta.
Read my posts in the Bali section and send me PMs if you have questions.
Cheers.
Going to be in Jakarta layover, less than a day, in August, arrive at airport at 11:30 pm, out next day to Padang like early afternoon or something. So literally have 12 hours. I want to check into a place hotel, where all of the action in right there, no walking, no taxis, boom boom boom, as many chicas in that time period.
Suggestions? Do I get a room at Malio? So I have to go nowhere. I don't worry about the money because it's quick trip.
Other possibilities where I can have it all under one roof, maybe the Asian massage and the lounges etc. All under one roof.
Has anyone ever actually stayed at the Malio, or are those rooms basically just used for the clientele quickies.
Thanks.I think Classic or Travel are your best bets, or perhaps Malio. All three places are large. Classic is normally largest by far, but was not in full operation when I was there in March. Only one floor out of four was open. They all have lots and lots rooms, always very clean. I have only ever used rooms for sex, never to stay in over longer time. However, it may be possible to rent them as hotel rooms too. I think there was somebody on the forum here some years ago talking about this. The rooms I have been in never had windows, but it may be possible to get a room with a window for your purposes (on the other hand it may not matter so much to you if you just need somewhere to sleep for a few hours). Your best bet is probably simply to call them or write and email and ask.
Anyone entered Jakarta recently? To enter Bali I think it's still a requirement to book a government listed hotel for the first 3 nights so I assume this is relevant to Jakarta but I cannot find any info. Does any know and do you have links?
The flights from Europe to jak are half those to Bali for me. Ta jingo.
Ggekko2009
04-14-22, 19:43
Anyone entered Jakarta recently? To enter Bali I think it's still a requirement to book a government listed hotel for the first 3 nights so I assume this is relevant to Jakarta but I cannot find any info. Does any know and do you have links?
The flights from Europe to jak are half those to Bali for me. Ta jingo.Everything is now back to normal. No visa exemption for most countries, but the option for VOA is now available for 500 K.
Here is the link.
https://indonesia.nl/en/visa/#visa-on-arrival- (voa) -for-foreign-travellers.
Everything is now back to normal. No visa exemption for most countries, but the option for VOA is now available for 500 K.
Here is the link.
https://indonesia.nl/en/visa/#visa-on-arrival- (voa) -for-foreign-travellers.Thanks, I was being dumb, I didn't realise Jakarta airport was.
Soekarno Hatta, Banten.
I've never flown into Jakarta before, I expected to say Jakarta in the update.
Everything is now back to normal..Not really. Still a lot of paperwork:
1. Show proof of being in the possession of health / travel insurance that covers medical expenses and Covid-19 treatment while abroad.
2. Show a result of negative PCR test that was taken maximum 48 hours before departure.
3. Show proof / certificate of a full dose COVID-19 vaccination (at least 2 vaccines, or 1 for the Johnson&Johnson vaccine) minimum 14 days before the date of travel, e. G. , stamp in the yellow vaccination book and print out the international QR code from the CoronaCheck website: https://coronacheck.nl/nl/print/.
The 48 hours test is a challenge. As travel time can be 20 hours or more.
Thanks, I was being dumb, I didn't realise Jakarta airport was.
Soekarno Hatta, Banten.
I've never flown into Jakarta before, I expected to say Jakarta in the update.There are technically two international airports in Jakarta. However, Halim is hardly ever used now.
Soekarno Hatta is CGK on all the airport codes.
Enjoy. G.
The 48 hours test is a challenge. As travel time can be 20 hours or more.It's <48 hrs before take off, not landing. Travel time is of no consequence. Even transit times are ignored. Just don't leave the 3rd party airport and formally enter another country.
Hi all,
Just checking do we still need to test upon arrival? I don't really like the Chinese test kits and do not trust them. Don't want my holiday spent in quarantine.
Os.
Hi all,
Just checking do we still need to test upon arrival? I don't really like the Chinese test kits and do not trust them. Don't want my holiday spent in quarantine.
Os.Assuming that you have been vaccinated and tested before getting on the plane then no arrival PCR nor quarantine is required.
If you show symptoms, then you will be directed to receive a PCR test. If positive, you will go to quarantine until clear.
It would be wise to check closer to your departure date as the rules are changing quickly to allow easier entry and exit.
Quick questions. Are these spas foreigner friendly? Not sure how things are now post-COVID. I assume they don't see as many visitors or foreign people.
275 K is the fixed government price. Results may take 24 hours or more. Faster results will cost you more.Gern,. Clear your inbox.
Cheers. G.
Should be clear!
Gern.
Gern,. Clear your inbox.
Cheers. G.
Should be clear!
Gern.Not yet 😁 :
"Gern has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space. ".
CodeName47
04-20-22, 08:22
I think Classic or Travel are your best bets, or perhaps Malio. All three places are large. Classic is normally largest by far, but was not in full operation when I was there in March. Only one floor out of four was open. They all have lots and lots rooms, always very clean. I have only ever used rooms for sex, never to stay in over longer time. However, it may be possible to rent them as hotel rooms too. I think there was somebody on the forum here some years ago talking about this. The rooms I have been in never had windows, but it may be possible to get a room with a window for your purposes (on the other hand it may not matter so much to you if you just need somewhere to sleep for a few hours). Your best bet is probably simply to call them or write and email and ask.I love the way travel hotel operates. I would like to try again next month. How is it now compared to pre-covid times?
Hi gang,
I have a flight May 29th, staying in Jakarta until June 3rd. My first time to monger in Indonesia so really looking forward to it.
I've done a lot of research on Jakarta so I can hit the ground running, but I am confused about some acronyms at the massage places:
6. Soapy land Heli (Naked Lulur + b. M + M. M. C+ M. K + b. J + F. J) = Rp. 630,000- (Durasi 90 menit).
What the hell is MMC? I can't guess, and I have a decent IQ! Mouth to mouth contact?
BM is body massage I assume, MK what is MK? Also I see PM, what is PM?
Help!
Banana Boi
04-20-22, 17:24
Are Classic, Travel, Malio, Fortune Spas Foreigner Friendly?Absolutely. Tons of Farang especially in Classic and Travel. Any club discussed on this forum is Farang friendly.
Absolutely. Tons of Farang especially in Classic and Travel. Any club discussed on this forum is Farang friendly.Thanks for the update. Will make sure to report back when I arrive.
WaxWasHere
04-20-22, 17:49
What to expect with seeking and rates? I'm staying in Jakarta for a few days and was hoping to get someone stay overnight in my hotel. One asked for 200 usd but she didn't say she will stay over night. Another said 4 m for ppm? Those are too high right?
WaxWasHere
04-20-22, 17:54
What's a reasonable rate on seeking? I got one that quoted me 200 usd while another 4 m seems high correct? I'm going to be in Town for a short period of time only and was hoping to lock in something before I arrive next month.
It is Indonesian slang for licking nipples and sucking breasts.
Hi gang,
I have a flight May 29th, staying in Jakarta until June 3rd. My first time to monger in Indonesia so really looking forward to it.
I've done a lot of research on Jakarta so I can hit the ground running, but I am confused about some acronyms at the massage places:
6. Soapy land Heli (Naked Lulur + b. M + M. M. C+ M. K + b. J + F. J) = Rp. 630,000- (Durasi 90 menit).
What the hell is MMC? I can't guess, and I have a decent IQ! Mouth to mouth contact?
BM is body massage I assume, MK what is MK? Also I see PM, what is PM?
Help!
Sorry! Will check again. First Time this has ever happened to me in a Dozen Years!
Not yet 😁 :
"Gern has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space. ".
What the hell is MMC? I can't guess, and I have a decent IQ! Mouth to mouth contact?
BM is body massage I assume, MK what is MK? Also I see PM, what is PM?
Help!MMC. No idea.
MK. Mandi Kuching, tongue bath.
PM. Prostate massage?
Looks like you are in for an entertaining afternoon. 👍.
Enjoy. G.
Hi gang,
I have a flight May 29th, staying in Jakarta until June 3rd. My first time to monger in Indonesia so really looking forward to it.
I've done a lot of research on Jakarta so I can hit the ground running, but I am confused about some acronyms at the massage places:
6. Soapy land Heli (Naked Lulur + b. M + M. M. C+ M. K + b. J + F. J) = Rp. 630,000- (Durasi 90 menit).
What the hell is MMC? I can't guess, and I have a decent IQ! Mouth to mouth contact?
BM is body massage I assume, MK what is MK? Also I see PM, what is PM?
Help!
It is Indonesian slang for licking nipples and sucking breasts.Is that just for MMC or MK and PM also?
MMC: Mimik mimik Cucu --as described earlier.
PM: Petik Mangga (picking mangos) --I always associate this with a sensual massage of your mangos, but other references say it is a euphemism for HJ.
MMC. No idea.
MK. Mandi Kuching, tongue bath.
PM. Prostate massage?
Looks like you are in for an entertaining afternoon. 👍.
Enjoy. G.
Hi gang,
I have a flight May 29th, staying in Jakarta until June 3rd. My first time to monger in Indonesia so really looking forward to it.
I've done a lot of research on Jakarta so I can hit the ground running, but I am confused about some acronyms at the massage places:
6. Soapy land Heli (Naked Lulur + b. M + M. M. C+ M. K + b. J + F. J) = Rp. 630,000- (Durasi 90 menit).
What the hell is MMC? I can't guess, and I have a decent IQ! Mouth to mouth contact?
BM is body massage I assume, MK what is MK? Also I see PM, what is PM?.Yes, I also need a translation of the translation for some info on the Indo review sites.
I remembered seeing a list of these acronyms on an Indo review site and found it.
This is just the first bit, there are 75 in total. Unfortunately the ones that originate from Indonesian, like MMC, PM and MK, are only described using Indonesian.
Do you want the rest of the list?
Is it OK for me to post a link to the Indonesian review site that it comes from? Not sure if there is a rule against that.
Try again? I did some major housekeeping and filing!
Sorry! Will check again. First Time this has ever happened to me in a Dozen Years!
Ggekko2009
04-26-22, 18:03
What's a reasonable rate on seeking? I got one that quoted me 200 usd while another 4 m seems high correct? I'm going to be in Town for a short period of time only and was hoping to lock in something before I arrive next month.Not surprised. I am finding that the on-going rate for the city girls in Jakarta are between 2 to 3 million. 4 million is a bit high in my opinion but are seeing that quite a bit too. At this rate, I expect LT with overnight stay. Otherwise negotiate for a lower rate for a ST and see if there are any takers.
For cheaper options, there are always Classics where the girls there are from the villages but you can't book them out. The experiences are different and it all depends on what you are looking.
CodeName47
04-27-22, 06:58
Not surprised. I am finding that the on-going rate for the city girls in Jakarta are between 2 to 3 million. 4 million is a bit high in my opinion but are seeing that quite a bit too. At this rate, I expect LT with overnight stay. Otherwise negotiate for a lower rate for a ST and see if there are any takers.
For cheaper options, there are always Classics where the girls there are from the villages but you can't book them out. The experiences are different and it all depends on what you are looking.I booked my flights around 3rd, fourth week of May to Jakarta and bali. I usually have good responses using online dating sites. Atleast 10+ ready to meet. I will entertain who is eager to visit and won't burn the contacts. During the past visits I had developed a good list of contacts who are eager to meet and spend time.
It takes a bit of time but it can be fun. Yes 2+ mil is high.
Even after this, I still want to visit Travel and Classic. It is such a nice experience. Drink, girls its fun.
Thanks for the intel gents. Yes, I have also been trying to set up dates for my trip to Jakarta in a few weeks. I use the Seeking site. There is so much incredible talent in the mid 25 year old range. Wow. I am sure lots is filter photos, but looks incredible. Absolute stunning beauties. For the rates, I am hearing 1.5 mil to 2 mil for short term. But I haven't try to negotiations yet. Met a 10/10 model and TV host who is going for 10 mil. Too much for me.
Question on Classic and Travel. Are they GFE experiences? Can you get threesome there? Or is it very mechanical like Geylang in Singapore. Someone said these girls are village. So wonder if they have fun in bed, or just trying to get it over with as soon possible.
Onward gents.
Ggekko2009
04-27-22, 17:52
Thanks for the intel gents. Yes, I have also been trying to set up dates for my trip to Jakarta in a few weeks. I use the Seeking site. There is so much incredible talent in the mid 25 year old range. Wow. I am sure lots is filter photos, but looks incredible. Absolute stunning beauties. For the rates, I am hearing 1.5 mil to 2 mil for short term. But I haven't try to negotiations yet. Met a 10/10 model and TV host who is going for 10 mil. Too much for me.
Question on Classic and Travel. Are they GFE experiences? Can you get threesome there? Or is it very mechanical like Geylang in Singapore. Someone said these girls are village. So wonder if they have fun in bed, or just trying to get it over with as soon possible.
Onward gents.Definitely share with us the eventual rate that you are able to negotiate with the SA girls. Just ask them to send you selfie to be taken now without filter. Curious to know how much they are willing to go for.
Again, not surprising that the more unique ones like the TV host who is asking for 10+ million. Their targeted daddies are probably the wealthy locals whom they might want to end up as their mistresses. I do not find SA girls to be cheap in Jakarta, but would give it a try when I am there next time. Already have a list of contacts lined up, with one who is a flight attendant that I so much want to give it a try.
You are not going to get any GFE experience in Classic or Travel. I would personally avoid a threesome there since they are going to be more reserved in front of another girls and you will end up disappointed.
Definitely share with us the eventual rate that you are able to negotiate with the SA girls. Just ask them to send you selfie to be taken now without filter. Curious to know how much they are willing to go for.
For the rates being mentioned, I would be targeting Instagram models.
Are Hotel and Classic still offering two for the price of one specials? Maybe I'm showing my age but threesomes were standard practice previously and definitely a fun way to kill an hour or two.
Enjoy. G.
Thanks for the insights. I will make sure to keep everyone posted on my experiences.
Definitely share with us the eventual rate that you are able to negotiate with the SA girls. Just ask them to send you selfie to be taken now without filter. Curious to know how much they are willing to go for.
Again, not surprising that the more unique ones like the TV host who is asking for 10+ million. Their targeted daddies are probably the wealthy locals whom they might want to end up as their mistresses. I do not find SA girls to be cheap in Jakarta, but would give it a try when I am there next time. Already have a list of contacts lined up, with one who is a flight attendant that I so much want to give it a try.
You are not going to get any GFE experience in Classic or Travel. I would personally avoid a threesome there since they are going to be more reserved in front of another girls and you will end up disappointed.
WeKilledKenny
04-29-22, 01:10
Could someone PM or post some Indo review sites? I've seen in YouTube and some porn sites other discrete locations across Jakarta. Also seeking advice / tips on how to use "smprot" (I'm abbreviating the website since I'm not sure if I can post it)? I'm asking because a tour guide helped me with it. But, when it was time to meet some of these college beauties, they drove past me and ghosted me. I'm assuming because I'm a gringo and these ladies were thinking I was a local man.
BenderOver
04-29-22, 09:00
Thanks for the intel gents. Yes, I have also been trying to set up dates for my trip to Jakarta in a few weeks. I use the Seeking site. There is so much incredible talent in the mid 25 year old range. Wow. I am sure lots is filter photos, but looks incredible. Absolute stunning beauties. For the rates, I am hearing 1.5 mil to 2 mil for short term. But I haven't try to negotiations yet. Met a 10/10 model and TV host who is going for 10 mil. Too much for me.
Question on Classic and Travel. Are they GFE experiences? Can you get threesome there? Or is it very mechanical like Geylang in Singapore. Someone said these girls are village. So wonder if they have fun in bed, or just trying to get it over with as soon possible.
Onward gents.Classic and Travel are usually mechanical. And yes, most of the girls look like they originally came from a village, went to the hairdresser and makeup artist, slipped on hooker minidress and fuck me pumps, got a few tattoos from their pimp in shining armor, and there you have it. They're fun enough in bed, but assume that you'll be doing most of the work. My bb or GFE success rate is about 25% there, and when I do get BB, I tip 300 k instead of 100 k. Maybe 1 in 5 girls are cute enough to do. Maybe 1 in 30 are wow.
BenderOver
04-29-22, 09:03
Not surprised. I am finding that the on-going rate for the city girls in Jakarta are between 2 to 3 million. 4 million is a bit high in my opinion but are seeing that quite a bit too. At this rate, I expect LT with overnight stay. Otherwise negotiate for a lower rate for a ST and see if there are any takers.
For cheaper options, there are always Classics where the girls there are from the villages but you can't book them out. The experiences are different and it all depends on what you are looking.That's incredibly high. Tinder currently has ST at 1. 0 to 1. 5 and LT at 2. 0 to 2. 5 (values are in juta), even precovid BATS or CJ's was at this rate. Sure the girls will ASK for more, but will be happy with the usual rates.
Which months are the best to visit Jakarta?
BenderOver
04-29-22, 09:06
Yes, I also need a translation of the translation for some info on the Indo review sites.
I remembered seeing a list of these acronyms on an Indo review site and found it.
This is just the first bit, there are 75 in total. Unfortunately the ones that originate from Indonesian, like MMC, PM and MK, are only described using Indonesian.
Do you want the rest of the list?
Is it OK for me to post a link to the Indonesian review site that it comes from? Not sure if there is a rule against that.Are you sure Blok M means Malioburo Hotel? I would have guess that Blok M. Well. Means Blok M. Go figure.
BenderOver
04-29-22, 09:08
MMC. No idea.
MK. Mandi Kuching, tongue bath.
PM. Prostate massage?
Looks like you are in for an entertaining afternoon. 👍.
Enjoy. G.Haha, MK. Didn't realize that. BTW, it's mandi kucing (c is always pronounced ch already). But an old indo expat like you gofer, I know you know that already.
Mandi kucing = cat shower = tongue bath.
Are you sure Blok M means Malioburo Hotel? I would have guess that Blok M. Well. Means Blok M. Go figure.None of the information in that list is my interpretation. It's a straight cut and paste from an Indonesian website.
I agree that it doesn't make sense to use Blok M as code for Malioboro, when a location called Blok M actually exists.
Hope tourist permit without quarantine to Jakarta will open up after Ramadan. Covid cases are slowly going up in different part of the world. Confusion still on go. Waiting to meet girlfriends again after a long break. Wishing to travel in June without quarantine hurdles in Jakarta. Think positively.
Haha, MK. Didn't realize that. BTW, it's mandi kucing (c is always pronounced ch already). But an old indo expat like you gofer, I know you know that already.
Mandi kucing = cat shower = tongue bath.Your right of course. Sorry about the typo. Coba, cewe, cowok etc are all pronounced with a ch not cee. The only "cuh" I know of is Hotel Classic.
Note that cat, pronounced chat, is an indonesian word. However, it means paint, not the animal. Probably not a good idea to mix up kucing and kencing. 😜.
Cheers. G.
That's incredibly high. Tinder currently has ST at 1. 0 to 1. 5 and LT at 2. 0 to 2. 5 (values are in juta), even precovid BATS or CJ's was at this rate. Sure the girls will ASK for more, but will be happy with the usual rates.Thanks for info BenderOver. I don't know why but all these Seeking girls are asking for $350-$700 for short term, which is insane. I am definitely not going to pay that. But surprised that have the nerve to ask so much. Granted, their photos look like 9's and 10's. But I am sure they will not be GFE in bed. Maybe I should change to tinder. Someone told me Seeking in Jakarta is more for the rich oligarchs looking for a mistress or rich business man. Lets see.
Hope tourist permit without quarantine to Jakarta will open up after Ramadan. Covid cases are slowly going up in different part of the world. Confusion still on go. Waiting to meet girlfriends again after a long break. Wishing to travel in June without quarantine hurdles in Jakarta. Think positively.Not sure what countries you are from, but Jakarta has open borders. No quar or COVID test on arrivals. Check online.
CodeName47
05-02-22, 10:10
Not sure what countries you are from, but Jakarta has open borders. No quar or COVID test on arrivals. Check online.Thank god. For a minute, I was about to go and read the government sites for quarantine.
CodeName47
05-02-22, 10:11
Thanks for info BenderOver. I don't know why but all these Seeking girls are asking for $350-$700 for short term, which is insane. I am definitely not going to pay that. But surprised that have the nerve to ask so much. Granted, their photos look like 9's and 10's. But I am sure they will not be GFE in bed. Maybe I should change to tinder. Someone told me Seeking in Jakarta is more for the rich oligarchs looking for a mistress or rich business man. Lets see.Unlike a few years before, Indonesian Cupid lost its charm. But there are some girls I have managed to arrange for a meetup. Usually I get them to bed when I meet. Not much of a trouble there. Its worth checking that site.
Indonesia is opening up. And I cannot wait to fly over coming week. As some of you know, I like seedy places (e. G. PLTU - http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2429677#post2429677), I wonder how the situation is after 2 years of Covid.
Are the seedy places near (on) the train tracks still operational (one is called PLTU, the other I cannot remember?) or are they shut down? Are there any other seedy down market places that opened in the meanwhile?.Horny as hell, I arrived in Jakarta yesterday morning. Staying in the North and had my two favorite kinky places on the list (see above. I am a "little" bit kinky: D). Done with work for the day (like. Real work from the hotel), my first stop were the train tracks (Gedong Panjang) as it is close to where I am staying. This downmarket location has two sections: next to the tracks (where you have to be careful with passing trains) and the lower stalls (classic tiny discos).
Unfortunately, looks like there was a crack down for Ramadan. Though I had a heads-up (thanks at La Joe. Helped to manage expectations), I had some hope. In the end it is still Jakarta and things open fast again (unless they use bulldozers as they did with the Kalijodo crackdown what a sad event).
So here some latest update on the too seedy places mentioned in my original post:
*Gedong Panjang*.
On the tracks: It is dark. Like pitch black. This place was never super lighted up but now it is as dark as it gets. Most stalls have been closed as part of the crackdown (their entrance has been closed with bricks / concrete). Some places still operate but only very few ladies were there and not a single talent on my first visit (around 8 pm). No point of banging an oversized Indo lady in her 30's. I always loved the place for the unique experience of banging a 20 year old next to the train tracks with a train occasionally passing by. Quite cool IMO: D). Since no talent, I went down to the other stalls. Maybe half of them were closed. Not sure if this was because of the crackdown or it was just post Ramandan. Nothing interesting for me so I left to my other favorite place.
*Train tracks near Ancol / Stadium*.
Not sure, but I think one of these places has been replaced with a stadium?During my 1.2 visits here (maybe a few more: D), I noted some construction in the backyard of this slum but I still had some hope. Unfortunately, this place is gone. Went to the train tracks (see photo). Maybe 2.3 fat ladies next to the tracks (some stalls towards to main road still exist but only a few ugly ones left). But all the houses after the hole in the wall are gone. Like. All demolished. The sad thing is that the stadium is only build a few hundred meters away. So it is not that the stadium needed the place where all the mini brothels were. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. It was a super seedy, downmarket place but somehow had some funny occasions here. Wanting to explore the area a bit (the ladies must have gone somewhere, right? I went on the train tracks towards the direction away from the stadium. After the bridge (guys. Not sure if anyone of you has ever crossed a train bridge while walking on the tracks; there is only a wooden board on which you can slowly walk while still watching out that no train is approaching from the back), I found a sign of hope: another hole in the wall and some houses. Went down but these were only regular houses. I walked around for 30 min but no working lady. This place is really dead.
So that is it. Kalijodo gone a few years ago and now these two places. I almost feel like it's a wasted trip (I don't need to Jakarta for places like Classic or the overpriced SPAs. I can have that somewhere else too). What I really start liking here were the places giving some thrill. I found that with some of the seedy downmarket places that *OS* kindly shared here. Quite interesting experience.
If anyone knows if there are other downmarket places around (from reading the forum, most of you guys are more into upmarket places), please share. Would be a shame if this is a wasted trip.
Thanks,
Keen.
KingFish7140
05-04-22, 07:17
I can report that Fortune Spa in Grand Wijaya and Pondok Indah is operating although with a new format. You pay 1. 9 or 2. 3 depending on the sort of girl you choose for all in for two hours. No tips according to the girls at the desk. This is very expensive, but is what it is.
Does anyone know he status of places like Delta Spa and My Place? I'm thinking My Place is done. Rizz spa in Pondok Indah is for sure dead as is Delta Pondok Indah. I really hope Delta is not defunct. I know hey are not really monger places, but are great for a lazy Sunday.
Not so much of a report but more of a funny story to tell.
Went to one of the seedy places near the train tracks on Jl R. E. Martadinata (I always mix up the names. Any of the locals can help me with name? Went over the tracks and through the hole in the wall. It was unfortunately raining cats and dogs before, so I had wet shoes after 2 minutes. Anyway. Went to one of the local places, picked a cutie and there we go. All good. The challenge I have in general is that I don't come. And they don't like to be fucked for 1 hour straight (well. I still won't come anyway) for 150.200 k. So what I usually do is that I fuck them for 15 min, say thank you and leave for another girl. So in the end, I will have seen a 3. 5 pussies that night. So that is not a problem. However, eventually, I want to come (and put all my semen over their boobs), so I help myself with hand. Here is the thing: Most girls in their 20's have issues with me masturbating to finish off after it. It is not about time. It is like they hate it to the core. Likely. Seriously hating it. Interestingly, it was not a one-off, but it happened with about 5 girls yet. I never experienced this in Indonesia other than this area. Even more weirdly, when I pick a girl in their late 20's / early 30's, they were perfectly fine with it. Only those in their early 20's had issues.
Ever anyone experienced this? Sorry for not sharing earlier. It is not really a report but more like a weird story. To make it up a bit, adding a pic.
KeenGerle.Hi KeenGerle,
I have exactly the same problem. Ok, maybe no need to call it a problem, actually some chicks like it to be pounded long.
But it takes some explanation to make it understandable to the girl. So I prefer to return to girls who already do know that I come difficultly or that I have to finish off by hand. Or that I tell them. "Good for tonight, make me come tomorrow morning". Unfortunately, few girls like sex in the morning.
I am old already, retired, but I have this problem also when I was 40 or 50. Sometimes it happens that I can come without helping with a hand, but that's only once or twice per year. Another trick to come easier will be when I did not come for a week, so the balls are full of sperm. Actually after 3, 4 days my balls start kind of itching, and they want to be releases from its load. Another trick is to imagine in my mind I have sex with some young, sexy girls. Means some kind of girls which I find hot and with whom I already had good sex in the past. Actually this young explosive sensation of orgasm which showed up from age 15 to 50 is also gone since long, it's a kind of weak release of my juice- without this psychedelic freak out which it was before.
What is interesting, I am also much fascinated by this seedy place near Jakarta train station. I was reading about 20 years ago her in ISG about these girls in old train wagons. 10 years ago I tried to find them, but I could not. I would have needed to ask some locals to find it, but I was shy asking some stranger on the street for it. Ok, looks like I have to try it again, LOL.
John.
Not sure what countries you are from, but Jakarta has open borders. No quar or COVID test on arrivals. Check online.You are correct. They need only 72 hours prior PCR test only follwed by few verification on vaccination before immigration clearance. Thanks.
If anyone knows if there are other downmarket places around (from reading the forum, most of you guys are more into upmarket places), please share. Would be a shame if this is a wasted trip..I don't know anything about these places, other than what I've read about them here.
There isn't much information on either location.
You could maybe check out Rawa Malang.
I have been here. I believe I left a report, but in summary, it was a hell of a way to go for nothing particularly special. I went in the late afternoon. It felt very safe and chill, but its a slum area with bars playing loud music and some hores hanging about. Most were middle-aged MILFs and unappealing to me. I thought it would be a complete strike out but I kept searching. Eventually, I did hook up with the 22 yr old cewek in the photo who was actually fairly good looking, not a MILF and the youngest woman I saw. But the deed had to be done in a hot, cramped, dirty concrete box of a room with no running water. Don't recall what I paid, but it wasn't much and she wasn't much of fcuk. If you are bored, have nothing to do and are in the mood for adventure and you have a way to get out there, near the ditches, it might be a worthwhile distraction. I recommend it for the monger who doesnt mind slumming it and is bored of the clubs, but dont expect a PSE.Or, if you prefer beside the train tracks, you could try near Stasiun Tanahabang.
However this information is older, and after reading TommySuharto's post I think it's unlikely that it still exists.
Where I sometimes went to and what I've considered low end, was near Station Tanahabang. Some rundown houses parallel to the railway tracks and this smelly river or channel or whatever it is.
Yes, low end. Authorities have tried to control it a number of times and Yokowi had it bulldozed at least once since then. Not sure what the status is these days. It may still be going. Not a safe area to go, please note. But perhaps for those with a desire to calibrate the meaning of "sleaze", there used to be streethookers in front of Tanah Abang station as well. Approximate level. It saves from walking through the dirt and dealing with semi preman. Expect 250 k.Good luck.
CodeName47
05-04-22, 09:45
Hi KeenGerle,
I have exactly the same problem. Ok, maybe no need to call it a problem, actually some chicks like it to be pounded long.
But it takes some explanation to make it understandable to the girl. So I prefer to return to girls who already do know that I come difficultly or that I have to finish off by hand. Or that I tell them. "Good for tonight, make me come tomorrow morning". Unfortunately, few girls like sex in the morning.
I am old already, retired, but I have this problem also when I was 40 or 50. Sometimes it happens that I can come without helping with a hand, but that's only once or twice per year. Another trick to come easier will be when I did not come for a week, so the balls are full of sperm. Actually after 3, 4 days my balls start kind of itching, and they want to be releases from its load. Another trick is to imagine in my mind I have sex with some young, sexy girls. Means some kind of girls which I find hot and with whom I already had good sex in the past. Actually this young explosive sensation of orgasm which showed up from age 15 to 50 is also gone since long, it's a kind of weak release of my juice- without this psychedelic freak out which it was before.
What is interesting, I am also much fascinated by this seedy place near Jakarta train station. I was reading about 20 years ago her in ISG about these girls in old train wagons. 10 years ago I tried to find them, but I could not. I would have needed to ask some locals to find it, but I was shy asking some stranger on the street for it. Ok, looks like I have to try it again, LOL.
John.I have had similar experiences in Indonesia. Girls want to get multiple orgasms in a session. For me, anything more than two a day will take more time, and they will come twice at least by then. And some girls want to see them pounded. They love mirrors when in action and in multiple positions. In general, I met girls who love sex.
CodeName47
05-04-22, 09:47
You are correct. They need only 72 hours prior PCR test only follwed by few verification on vaccination before immigration clearance. Thanks.I guess your information seems to be still wrong. From the Australian smart traveller website.
Still current at:04 May 2022.
Updated:30 April 2022.
Latest update: To travel to Indonesia, you must be vaccinated with at least 2 COVID-19 vaccine doses. You must also provide evidence of a COVID-19 (PCR) test taken within 48 hours of departure to Indonesia.
Gents,
I flew into Jakarta last week through Hong Kong. Was a bit worried about the new immigration process, but The process was quite easy.
After getting offs the plane, you go through a series of stations. I have Canadian passport.
First they make you download an app (check online, its easy to find. I can't think of name now) and verify that you had two COVID test. I did this before my flights and uploaded my certs of jabs onto the app.
Then they will do a document check where you need COVID PCR-RT test 48 hours before your first departure.
Next Station is to pay for your Visa on Arrival (check your country if on list).
Then they check your passport and ultimately stamps the passport.
Pretty straight forward. When I lands, not many crowds so very fast. Less than 10 minutes, which is very rare for Indonesia.
ClassicJakarta
05-04-22, 18:39
Gedong panjang will be busy after Ramadan. It sure was before Ramadan when I visited 3 weeks ago.
Classic.
Horny as hell, I arrived in Jakarta yesterday morning. Staying in the North and had my two favorite kinky places on the list (see above. I am a "little" bit kinky: D). Done with work for the day (like. Real work from the hotel), my first stop were the train tracks (Gedong Panjang) as it is close to where I am staying. This downmarket location has two sections: next to the tracks (where you have to be careful with passing trains) and the lower stalls (classic tiny discos).
Though I had a heads-up (thanks at La Joe. Helped to manage expectations), I had some hope. In the end it is still Jakarta and things open fast again (unless they use bulldozers as they did with the Kalijodo crackdown what a sad event).
So here some latest update on the too seedy places mentioned in my original post:
*Gedong Panjang*.
On the tracks: It is dark. Like pitch black. This place was never super lighted up but now it is as dark as it gets. Most stalls have been closed as part of the crackdown (their entrance has been closed with bricks / concrete). Some places still operate but only very few ladies were there and not a single talent on my first visit (around 8 pm). No point of banging an oversized Indo lady in her 30's. I always loved the place for the unique experience of banging a 20 year old next to the train tracks with a train occasionally passing by. Quite cool IMO: D). Since no talent, I went down to the other stalls. Maybe half of them were closed. Not sure if this was because of the crackdown or it was just post Ramandan. Nothing interesting for me so I left to my other favorite place..
Gents,
I flew into Jakarta last week through Hong Kong. Was a bit worried about the new immigration process, but The process was quite easy... verify that you had two COVID test...What do you mean by "two COVID test" My impression is that you only need to take one test (within 48 hours before departure).
First they make you download an app (check online, its easy to find. I can't think of name now) and verify that you had two COVID test. I did this before my flights and uploaded my certs of jabs onto the app.
What do you mean by "two COVID test" My impression is that you only need to take one test (within 48 hours before departure).I think he means two vaccinations. You upload your proof of being double vaccinated.
I think he means two vaccinations. You upload your proof of being double vaccinated.Thanks for clarify Gonz0.
Gedong panjang will be busy after Ramadan. It sure was before Ramadan when I visited 3 weeks ago..Awesome and can confirm that I saw more last night (not as great as before but getting a bit better). Still a surreal experience with running over the dark train tracks, occasionally a train passes by (so everyone is rushing of the tracks) and backing a chick on a dirty mattress while a train passes by.
Still not as "strange" as the old places where chicken were running around but still crazy: the.
Only concern are the news of having everything demolished. After seeing what they have done with Kalijodo and the new international stadium. So probably best to "use" such places before they will disappear.
Gents,
I flew into Jakarta last week through Hong Kong. Was a bit worried about the new immigration process, but The process was quite easy.
After getting offs the plane, you go through a series of stations. I have Canadian passport.
First they make you download an app (check online, its easy to find. I can't think of name now) and verify that you had two COVID test. I did this before my flights and uploaded my certs of jabs onto the app.
Then they will do a document check where you need COVID PCR-RT test 48 hours before your first departure.
Next Station is to pay for your Visa on Arrival (check your country if on list).
Then they check your passport and ultimately stamps the passport..Same with my experience on Tuesday. Nobody cared about the app at all. When asked for vaccination status at a mall yesterday, I just showed my international vaccination certificate.
Was really easy. Only annoying surprise I had was that a return ticket was requested (which I didn't book at that point of time). So I had to book a return ticket instantly to be able to board the flight. When pushing back on the requirement, the airline said that it relates with Visa on Arrival. Who knows. Just as a heads-up for those that are more flexible and don't book return tickets like me.
I can report that Fortune Spa in Grand Wijaya and Pondok Indah is operating although with a new format. You pay 1. 9 or 2. 3 depending on the sort of girl you choose for all in for two hours. No tips according to the girls at the desk. This is very expensive, but is what it is.
Does anyone know he status of places like Delta Spa and My Place? I'm thinking My Place is done. Rizz spa in Pondok Indah is for sure dead as is Delta Pondok Indah. I really hope Delta is not defunct. I know hey are not really monger places, but are great for a lazy Sunday.Are you sure? I walked by Fortune Spa a few days ago and it was dead.
CodeName47
05-05-22, 09:24
Gents,
I flew into Jakarta last week through Hong Kong. Was a bit worried about the new immigration process, but The process was quite easy.
After getting offs the plane, you go through a series of stations. I have Canadian passport.
First they make you download an app (check online, its easy to find. I can't think of name now) and verify that you had two COVID test. I did this before my flights and uploaded my certs of jabs onto the app.
Then they will do a document check where you need COVID PCR-RT test 48 hours before your first departure.
Next Station is to pay for your Visa on Arrival (check your country if on list).
Then they check your passport and ultimately stamps the passport.
Pretty straight forward. When I lands, not many crowds so very fast. Less than 10 minutes, which is very rare for Indonesia.This is exactly what I wanted to see here. Experiences matters a lot. I am prepared now.
I guess your information seems to be still wrong. From the Australian smart traveller website.
Still current at:04 May 2022.
Updated:30 April 2022.
Latest update: To travel to Indonesia, you must be vaccinated with at least 2 COVID-19 vaccine doses. You must also provide evidence of a COVID-19 (PCR) test taken within 48 hours of departure to Indonesia.https://www.aseanbriefing.com/news/what-are-indonesias-latest-guidelines-on-international-travel/
Yes same thing I read.
Muzungufotsy
05-05-22, 12:30
Gents,
I flew into Jakarta last week through Hong Kong. Was a bit worried about the new immigration process, but The process was quite easy.
After getting offs the plane, you go through a series of stations. I have Canadian passport.
First they make you download an app (check online, its easy to find. I can't think of name now) and verify that you had two COVID test. I did this before my flights and uploaded my certs of jabs onto the app.
Then they will do a document check where you need COVID PCR-RT test 48 hours before your first departure.
Next Station is to pay for your Visa on Arrival (check your country if on list).
Then they check your passport and ultimately stamps the passport.
Pretty straight forward. When I lands, not many crowds so very fast. Less than 10 minutes, which is very rare for Indonesia.Still too many BS requirements if you ask me specially comparing to many countries who drop everything and are back to normal. Indo is far from being back to normal and once in the country still masks on and show your phone like a puppet wherever you go pffff no thanks.
KingFish7140
05-05-22, 23:47
Are you sure? I walked by Fortune Spa a few days ago and it was dead.Very sure- both Grand Wijaya and Pondok Indah have been open for months. A few days ago would be in the Lebaran range and explain being closed at present.
Very sure- both Grand Wijaya and Pondok Indah have been open for months. A few days ago would be in the Lebaran range and explain being closed at present.Thanks boss. That makes sense. Is Fortune safe for foreigners? Looks quite sketchy from the outside. But maybe because its dead quiets right now.
ClassicJakarta
05-07-22, 08:25
Yes it is safe. Haven't been to any bars or establishments in Jakarta where it wasn't safe. Generally Jakarta is a very safe city.
Classic.
Thanks boss. That makes sense. Is Fortune safe for foreigners? Looks quite sketchy from the outside. But maybe because its dead quiets right now.
ClassicJakarta
05-07-22, 08:33
I haven't heard any talk about it being demolished anytime soon but it for sure will be eventually. But the place get raided once in a while, last time just before the start of Ramadan.
I prefer the bars below the rail, as they have a few bars that actually have rooms with basic toilet inside. Most bars only have rooms without toilet. In general most rooms only have a filthy mattress inside. So I don't visit very often, most times just to have a beer since I live close by.
Classic.
Awesome and can confirm that I saw more last night (not as great as before but getting a bit better). Still a surreal experience with running over the dark train tracks, occasionally a train passes by (so everyone is rushing of the tracks) and backing a chick on a dirty mattress while a train passes by.
Still not as "strange" as the old places where chicken were running around but still crazy: the.
Only concern are the news of having everything demolished. After seeing what they have done with Kalijodo and the new international stadium. So probably best to "use" such places before they will disappear.
Gents,
This was my first experiences at Malioboro Spa (Malio). I will like to share since some of you might be new and wanted to details what I went thru. Overall good experiences.
I went to Malio on a Sunday afternoon around 4 pm (I know its too early, but I don't like monger late at night). It seems to be in a fairly safe location. About 5-10 min moto ride from Plaza Indonesia and across street from few 4-star hotels (Harris and Mercure). So overall feels safe.
On the outside, the hotel looks quite run down, but when you walk its brightly lighted 3-star hotel. First you walks up to the counter and they give you a locker key with number. This will used for billing purpose. Then you take elevator to the 2 (or 3?) floor. There is another counter that will direct you to a big lounge (BAR) area. I am not sure if this is the night club. There were a lot of tables, chairs, banquet seats and I think there was a small stage. Since it was my first time, I didn't want to stay too long. Maybe 10-15% full.
Mamasan will come and ask if you want drink and try to talk to you. I didn't have much time, so I just ask to see ladies. The showed me a price list with different levels. It was something like Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Something else. Each with the prices. I don't remembers exactly, prices but bronze was 680 K and top class was 2.8 M. The higher you go, better looking and foreign girls. I think Bronze to Gold was local Indonesian girl and higher levels were Vietnam, Uzbek, maybe some other white girl.
Since I didn't have much cash on me, I asked for local girl. She showed me 6 girls. They were probably 6-7's at best. Nothing ugly, but not hot Indonesia beauties. I chose the best of the lot #587. Then sat us at table and ask if I want drink. I said no I need to go, so #587 took my hand and walked me out of bar area. Mamasan asked for tip. I didn't know what to do, so I gave her 50 k.
Girl takes you to that same counter (outside bar) and does some paperwork. Then I had to buy a condom for 28 K. Dumb.
Then girl take me on elevator to floor with rooms. The room was quite clean, but typical brothel room (maybe I can pay for better room)? Has shower and bed, no window.
Then its standard brothel experience. Shower, light massage, BBBJ, FS. Was fun, didn't feel very mechanical. But to be honest I no very excited about her. I had one hour total with her. Mostly massage and shower. She reminded me of a Geylang girl. Average looks, but looks good in heels and pushup bras. When it comes off, not so hot.
After, she asked for cash tip. I didn't know what to do (I should have read forms) So I gave her 100 K. She seem mad, but I didn't have enough cash and didn't know how much final bill will be.
Then she take me back to lounge area. I didn't want to stay, so I went back down to 1st floor lobby to check out.
Here I gave back my locker key. And my total price was 1,040 K. Which I guess was price of girl and room for one hour.
As I was leaving security guard was nice and got me Blue Bird taxi. But then also asked for tip. I only have him 10 K.
Taxi took me home no problems. Sometimes taxi when pick up men at brothel, can be shady.
Overall. I had a good experience, nice facilities and I might try to go back if Seeking doesn't work for me (some seeking girls are insanely expensive). Realize I should go back to Malio in evening for better selection and not be so timid. I should try to enjoy more. I think there are probably more beauties available. Maybe I spend more money and find better selection in evening.
Questions for group ==.
Does anyone have advices about how much to tip?
Is there an actual spa with bath, hot cold pool, showers?
Did I miss anything from the 'malio' experience?
I thought there is a dance floor. Is there?
Thank and hope this helps any newbie out there.
Onward.
Ggekko2009
05-09-22, 19:47
Questions for group ==.
Does anyone have advices about how much to tip?
Is there an actual spa with bath, hot cold pool, showers?
Did I miss anything from the 'malio' experience?
I thought there is a dance floor. Is there?
Thank and hope this helps any newbie out there.
Onward.Here's my experience but it was pre-covid.
Girls there do depend on tips. Their commission from the establishment is not much. It's up to you how much you want to give. I usually give 300 K if the service is good and more if she provides extra service. If you do not have enough cash, I think you can add those tip into a "post survey" form and indicate to the girl that. Not sure if you see that kind of form this time. It is usually to help those who don't carry cash with them and they can just pay it with the credit card upon check out.
I would usually bring my condom and show it to them so that they will not force me to buy their overpriced condom. Whether you get to use it or not depends on the rapport between you and the girl. The girls needs to "broadcast" that they went into the room with these condoms, otherwise they are going to be chastised based on past accounts from the girls that I know there.
Also, if you don't like the girl when in the room, you can tell them over in the room phone that you want to exchange the girl. The caveat is that this has to be done before the girl undresses. Never tried that, but that was what I had been told in the past.
Gents,
This was my first experiences at Malioboro Spa (Malio). I will like to share since some of you might be new and wanted to details what I went thru. Overall good experiences...Thanks for writing this report. I mongered in Jakarta twice but never made it to Malio. I hope to remedy that next time I make it to Jakarta.
Muzungufotsy
05-10-22, 08:34
Gents,
This was my first experiences at Malioboro Spa (Malio). I will like to share since some of you might be new and wanted to details what I went thru. Overall good experiences.
I went to Malio on a Sunday afternoon around 4 pm (I know its too early, but I don't like monger late at night). It seems to be in a fairly safe location. About 5-10 min moto ride from Plaza Indonesia and across street from few 4-star hotels (Harris and Mercure). So overall feels safe.
On the outside, the hotel looks quite run down, but when you walk its brightly lighted 3-star hotel. First you walks up to the counter and they give you a locker key with number. This will used for billing purpose. Then you take elevator to the 2 (or 3?) floor. There is another counter that will direct you to a big lounge (BAR) area. I am not sure if this is the night club. There were a lot of tables, chairs, banquet seats and I think there was a small stage. Since it was my first time, I didn't want to stay too long. Maybe 10-15% full..Can somebody confirm where does the difference of price between 680 k and 1040 k come from? Looks like you got scammed. You should have asked and check your bill.
I never heard of room charge in any other place. If I m quoted 300 for a girl I pay 300 and room is always included.
Second nobody forces you to give tip. You give if deserved and if you want to. Mamasan wants a tip? For what? For doing her job. You are afraid to say no? She s paid for that. Asking to pay for condom is also ridiculous.
Muzungufotsy
05-10-22, 08:40
Also, if you don't like the girl when in the room, you can tell them over in the room phone that you want to exchange the girl. The caveat is that this has to be done before the girl undresses. Never tried that, but that was what I had been told in the past.I would say as long as you didn't have sex you can exchange the girl because usually surprise happens when the girl takes her clothes off. With clothes they all look great without it s another story. Asking if she had a baby beforehand limits bad surprises. Bringing a condom is a tip we all use to avoid BS charge. Even if we show the same one every time LOL.
Ggekko2009
05-10-22, 18:05
Can somebody confirm where does the difference of price between 680 k and 1040 k come from? Looks like you got scammed. You should have asked and check your bill.
I never heard of room charge in any other place. If I m quoted 300 for a girl I pay 300 and room is always included.
Second nobody forces you to give tip. You give if deserved and if you want to. Mamasan wants a tip? For what? For doing her job. You are afraid to say no? She s paid for that. Asking to pay for condom is also ridiculous.What makes you think that the OP got scammed? I think the facts need to be straightened here given that other people read these posts and they need to get this information right about Malio.
1) The girls in Malio are grouped based on tiers based on looks, popularities and nationalities. The higher tier group charges more and the imports are always in the highest tier. Their prices are based on which tier the girls are in.
2) The room charge is always separate. One can opt for a more luxurious VIP room at a higher price.
3) OP is talking about tipping the girl whom he had sex with, not the mamasan. Don't have to tip the Mamasan or even those service boys who would occasionally ask for tips. But I would recommend tipping the girls since they depend on these tips. Don't need to be a cheap charlie.
4) Sure, check your bill before paying and ask for clarification if needed. But, please don't act like an ass in those establishment. The place is not cheap in comparison, but it is not in their interest to cheat you and they need repeat business. These places are run by mafias and they pay a lot of money to the police and politicians for protection and other access. Don't think for a second they would not try to rough you up if you don't want to pay because you are foreigner and act like you know best.
ClassicJakarta
05-10-22, 18:11
Maybe not scammed, but quoted price increase significantly after the tax and service charge is added. Its around 30% If I remember correctly.
Classic.
Can somebody confirm where does the difference of price between 680 k and 1040 k come from? Looks like you got scammed. You should have asked and check your bill.
I never heard of room charge in any other place. If I m quoted 300 for a girl I pay 300 and room is always included.
Second nobody forces you to give tip. You give if deserved and if you want to. Mamasan wants a tip? For what? For doing her job. You are afraid to say no? She s paid for that. Asking to pay for condom is also ridiculous.
Christian G
05-11-22, 10:53
3) OP is talking about tipping the girl whom he had sex with, not the mamasan. Don't have to tip the Mamasan or even those service boys who would occasionally ask for tips.The OP gave tip to both mamasan and service boys.
Can somebody confirm where does the difference of price between 680 k and 1040 k come from? Looks like you got scammed. You should have asked and check your bill.
I never heard of room charge in any other place. If I m quoted 300 for a girl I pay 300 and room is always included.
Second nobody forces you to give tip. You give if deserved and if you want to. Mamasan wants a tip? For what? For doing her job. You are afraid to say no? She s paid for that. Asking to pay for condom is also ridiculous.Did I ever say I chose the 680 K girl? No, I chose the mid range which was 1040 K.
And yes, I tipped. Big f&king deal. My first time here and I didn't know what to do. So shoot me.
And, yes I paid $2 USD for a condom. Oh no, the world global order is ruined. Like the other poster said, I am not trying to get into a fight with mafia owners. If I come back, will bring my own condom next time.
Chill man. Not all of us are geniuses like you.
Offshore Swell
05-14-22, 23:24
Gents,
This was my first experiences at Malioboro Spa (Malio). I will like to share since some of you might be new and wanted to details what I went thru. Overall good experiences.
I went to Malio on a Sunday afternoon around 4 pm (I know its too early, but I don't like monger late at night). It seems to be in a fairly safe location. About 5-10 min moto ride from Plaza Indonesia and across street from few 4-star hotels (Harris and Mercure). So overall feels safe.
On the outside, the hotel looks quite run down, but when you walk its brightly lighted 3-star hotel. First you walks up to the counter and they give you a locker key with number. This will used for billing purpose. Then you take elevator to the 2 (or 3?) floor. There is another counter that will direct you to a big lounge (BAR) area. I am not sure if this is the night club. There were a lot of tables, chairs, banquet seats and I think there was a small stage. Since it was my first time, I didn't want to stay too long. Maybe 10-15% full.
Mamasan will come and ask if you want drink and try to talk to you. I didn't have much time, so I just ask to see ladies. The showed me a price list with different levels. It was something like Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Something else. Each with the prices. I don't remembers exactly, prices but bronze was 680 K and top class was 2.8 M. The higher you go, better looking and foreign girls. I think Bronze to Gold was local Indonesian girl and higher levels were Vietnam, Uzbek, maybe some other white girl.
Since I didn't have much cash on me, I asked for local girl. She showed me 6 girls. They were probably 6-7's at best. Nothing ugly, but not hot Indonesia beauties. I chose the best of the lot #587. Then sat us at table and ask if I want drink. I said no I need to go, so #587 took my hand and walked me out of bar area. Mamasan asked for tip. I didn't know what to do, so I gave her 50 k.
Girl takes you to that same counter (outside bar) and does some paperwork. Then I had to buy a condom for 28 K. Dumb.
Then girl take me on elevator to floor with rooms. The room was quite clean, but typical brothel room (maybe I can pay for better room)? Has shower and bed, no window.
Then its standard brothel experience. Shower, light massage, BBBJ, FS. Was fun, didn't feel very mechanical. But to be honest I no very excited about her. I had one hour total with her. Mostly massage and shower. She reminded me of a Geylang girl. Average looks, but looks good in heels and pushup bras. When it comes off, not so hot.
After, she asked for cash tip. I didn't know what to do (I should have read forms) So I gave her 100 K. She seem mad, but I didn't have enough cash and didn't know how much final bill will be.
Then she take me back to lounge area. I didn't want to stay, so I went back down to 1st floor lobby to check out.
Here I gave back my locker key. And my total price was 1,040 K. Which I guess was price of girl and room for one hour.
As I was leaving security guard was nice and got me Blue Bird taxi. But then also asked for tip. I only have him 10 K.
Taxi took me home no problems. Sometimes taxi when pick up men at brothel, can be shady.
Overall. I had a good experience, nice facilities and I might try to go back if Seeking doesn't work for me (some seeking girls are insanely expensive). Realize I should go back to Malio in evening for better selection and not be so timid. I should try to enjoy more. I think there are probably more beauties available. Maybe I spend more money and find better selection in evening.
Questions for group ==.
Does anyone have advices about how much to tip?
Is there an actual spa with bath, hot cold pool, showers?
Did I miss anything from the 'malio' experience?
I thought there is a dance floor. Is there?
Thank and hope this helps any newbie out there.
Onward.Unfortunately, you may have shown your hand when the Mamasan asked for the first tip. They are professionals at smelling inexperience and the jungle drums of Malioboro work fast when they know theres a tipper in the building. This isn't the first time OS has heard this story. You should just put it down to the upfront costs involved in learning how Jakarta works. It's no big deal.
Freaky Mango
05-15-22, 03:46
Can anyone update whether Bats and CJ still open as pickup locations?
Unfortunately, you may have shown your hand when the Mamasan asked for the first tip. They are professionals at smelling inexperience and the jungle drums of Malioboro work fast when they know theres a tipper in the building. This isn't the first time OS has heard this story. You should just put it down to the upfront costs involved in learning how Jakarta works. It's no big deal.Thanks OffSwell. Like you said, you live and you learn. I am sure they smelled "newbie blood" when I walked in the door. Won't make the same mistake next time!
Onward,
U1.
Gents,
This was my first experiences at Malioboro Spa (Malio). I will like to share since some of you might be new and wanted to details what I went thru. ....Your description of your experience at Malioboro is highly accurate. This is exactly how it works there. I wish I were back in Indo myself! But not before July, alas.
I believe there is a proper spa section on the lower floors of the part you were in, though I have never gone to those floors myself (I always go straight for the girls).
You missed the other part of Malioboro. You were in the part closest to the street. There is another part at the back, further away from the street. It has its own entrance. It is also possible to cross between the two parts by going up a few floors and through some corridors. You can get someone there to show you the way. In the part at the back, it is more like a proper night club, with loud music, a bit dark, lots of dancers, girls who only keep you company, girls to take to room etc. There are some roaming girls there who do lady drinks. They are the hottest girls I have seen in Jakarta. Unbelievably attractive. But you will run up a huge lady drink bill with them very fast and they cost over 3 million to take to the room.
In general you will spend a lot more money at Malioboro than at Classic or Travel. Malioboro is a bit more "upmarket", but the sexual experience is not necessarily better. At Classic and Travel service is unpredictable, but what does it matter when you can go through three girls for the price of one. I also find that it is more difficult to interact with girls at Malioboro than at Classic.
Rooms at Malioboro, Classic and Travel don't have windows. But they are squeaky clean.
I don't know why you are so worried about security. Indonesia is generally very safe, safer than many places in Europe, and places like Malioboro, Classic and Travel are the safest of all within the Indonesian context. Including taxis outside (though they will refuse to use the meter and you need to negotiate a price in advance. The only thing to watch out for is lady drinks, but you have to understand that the whole point of lady drinks is a kind of tongue in cheek game to press up your expenditure. Almost like a competition between the girl and you. "See if you can resist me. " And yes, the bill in Malioboro is always a bit higher than one expects. In Classic and Travel it is usually spot on and they are even more transparent about pricing.
The girl gets a very low share of the official price tag and everybody is expected to tip. 300 000 is a standard minimum tip. Anything below that is a punishment for bad service. If the girl is nice and makes an effort, more could be paid, up to 6-700 000 if it was really fantastic. More if you fall in love, even just for a little while.
To one of the other posters on the forum: to send a girl back because she has saggy tits or something like that is really cruel. Remember they are humans, they have feelings, they are in a desperate economic situation and they are doing very dangerous work to satisfy you. Treat them nice. And as somebody else wrote, if you don't want a girl who has had a baby, ask BOTH the mamasan and the girl before taking the girl. The mamasan may say yes, yes but not really know. Also remember you never have to do what the mamasan says. She is pushy because she is competing against other mamasans, but this does not mean that her pushiness represents the authority of the institution.
The girl gets a very low share of the official price tag and everybody is expected to tip. 300 000 is a standard minimum tip. Anything below that is a punishment for bad service. If the girl is nice and makes an effort, more could be paid, up to 6-700 000 if it was really fantastic. More if you fall in love, even just for a little while.Is there a minimum level of service that the girl should provide to get the 300 K minimum tip?
If a girl just gets naked and is a starfish, should I give her the minimum 300k tip?
Where does this standard minimum tip amount come from? Are others here in agreement with this amount?
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