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Marky1
07-30-23, 19:30
I've returned and found Classic much the same. Same prices more or less, similar quality, similar service levels which can vary from amazing to forgettable. Level 5 is finished though I always preferred having a few beers at level 5 then making my way to level 2.

At Pang-Jay Starmoon has had the fishbowl renovated and now much better and more open. I went there and Grand MTR.

For maximum value, take the KRL to Sawah Besar only 3 k rupiah, combine visit to Classic with steak at Jonisteak, then catch KRL to Jayakarta station (3 k rupiah again) then walk to Pang-Jay. Cheap night out.

United1
08-01-23, 15:14
Gents -.

Does any members have recent expereince to share about seeking? I am noticing that ladies are charging more for short-term PPM these days. Do you have any refefences points.

I have used Seeking in Jakarta in the past and had great expereinces. Before, most were charging 2-3 M for a 1-2 hour short term visit at my hotel. Some were free.

Now, women are quoting 4-5 M. Inflation? Just to note, I am a younger looking in mid-30's.

I am targeting for the slim, attractive girls in late 20's. Not girls that is 19-22 years old.

Not the actress--models--IG on this site that can easily go for 8-12 M with shady politicians or trip to Singapore or Dubai.

Welcome your inputs. I am sure its cheaper on Tinder. But for some reasons I like seeking platform. Very direct to point.

For those of you new to seeking, check out my previous posts on my expereinces with seeking in past 1-2 years.

Welcome your discussions.

Adindas
08-01-23, 19:19
According to this article, these organ traders are taking advantage of poor people, who are desperate and vulnerable. These Indonesians agreed to sell one of their kidneys for 135 million rupiah, because they had financial trouble and needed the money.

The organ traders only took kidneys from people who agreed to sell them. Representatives of the organ traders contacted these people in Indonesia. They were not tourists on holiday in Cambodia.

The article did not have any information about any risk to tourists visiting Cambodia.

Human trafficking in Indonesia is rather complicated. Some of these trafficked people have been lured, promised to be given good jobs in Thailand for the skills they have such as ITs, customer services, etc. They are transported from Indonesia using unconventional route to avoid detection. They were first transported to Thailand and then using land route to be transported further to either Cambodia or Myanmar.

Certainly the risk for tourists is small. But keep mind that this human organ trading is "A STATE SPONSORED" run by military juntas. It is not an ordinary criminal gang. The victim's kidneys are removed from a STATE OWNED hospital. Cambodia is a signatory of the World Health Assembly Resolution on Organ Trafficking and Transplant Tourism, which was adopted in 2008. The resolution prohibits the sale or purchase of human organs, as well as the advertising or solicitation of organ donors for commercial purposes. It also calls on countries to take measures to prevent and combat human organ trading. But who is the law in Cambodia, if there is any rather than Hun Sen. You might be interesting in finding out about Hun Sen family connection to Human organ trading in Cambodia.

Just hoping as a tourist you do not fall into the trap for a petty crime that will see you to get a jailed sentence, giving a reason for the evil people who are after huge profit to profit from you.

Menteng
08-02-23, 12:29
To Hilo and veterans in the Jakarta thread.

Hilo77
08-03-23, 16:35
To Hilo and veterans in the Jakarta thread.On the far left, the beautiful and enigmatic Prapti (pretty by name and pretty by nature). I was convinced she would marry one of the thousands of bules (including me) who lusted after her but apparently she just went back to her kampung and settled down with a local lad, what a waste. And of course on the right, sweet motherly Fitri, who you had a big crush on as I recall.

All gone now, Dee's Place has changed hands, it was a graveyard the last time I visited, no sexy dancers, no VIP room for nefarious pleasure.

Hilo77
08-03-23, 17:05
I think I have posted these before. Probably only you and Smoothy (where's he now?) could name them.

Mighty Spearsman
08-04-23, 00:33
I think I have posted these before. Probably only you and Smoothy (where's he now?) could name them.
Thanks to you and Menteng for posting those photos.

Ah, the good old days. Still remember going to "D's Place" with Menteng back in 2005, ended up bringing a sweet young Javanese girl back to my hotel (Mandarin Oriental). In the morning she pulled a long sleeve top out of her bag, put it on over her more sexy top, and told me she was going directly to her workplace (some shop in one of the malls), so my walk with her through the lobby (the "walk of shame") to put her in a taxi was not too bad.

I last saw Smoothy in March 2018 when he and I had a great time at one of the bars in Pang-Jay, I think it was the New Sari Ayu Club. We both chose girls from the fishbowl and relaxed with a drink before heading upstairs (separately). Still remember walking up the stairs behind my girl who was tottering on these enormous heels.

It's a shame to read that many of these places have faded away.

Copics
08-04-23, 09:48
Hey guys I hope you all doing great!

I'll visit Jakarta for few days this month, so far I planned to go to classic and travel.

I read the last 20 pages and I was wondering if the train track place is really worth to visit?

Also for classic hotel I saw floor 2 and 5 , other floors not worth to visit?

And finally do I need to know some bahasa? For preferences and no baby things?

Thanks to all of you that posted on this forum, it's really helpful, I'll be sure to post my report at the end of my trip! .

Marky1
08-04-23, 16:47
Hey guys I hope you all doing great!

I'll visit Jakarta for few days this month, so far I planned to go to classic and travel.

I read the last 20 pages and I was wondering if the train track place is really worth to visit?

Also for classic hotel I saw floor 2 and 5 , other floors not worth to visit?

And finally do I need to know some bahasa? For preferences and no baby things?

Thanks to all of you that posted on this forum, it's really helpful, I'll be sure to post my report at the end of my trip! .The train tracks aren't worth a visit. Maybe out of curiosity is all.

Level 5 seems permanently shut now at Classic, just level 2 and the club (or whatever it is called) to the right at the main entrance seem to be open.

VikPunter
08-05-23, 00:48
Hi mongers,

I have enjoyed RTFF the last 20-25 pages and picked up a lot of good insight. Thanks to all who contribute. I will do my bit after my long-awaited trip in end Sep.

I am already thinking the following -.

1. How is the scene at BATS at the moment and compared with CJs. Do you find 8-10's or generally more experienced but older FLs? I will then decide whether to stay in Shangri-la or Mulia?

2. Are there good credible escort agency options,? I have already noted to consider Badoo, Tinder gold and Seeking Arrangement.

Thanks.

Vik.

Irish Mongrel
08-05-23, 01:01
Hi mongers,

I have enjoyed RTFF the last 20-25 pages and picked up a lot of good insight. Thanks to all who contribute. I will do my bit after my long-awaited trip in end Sep.

I am already thinking the following -.

1. How is the scene at BATS at the moment and compared with CJs. Do you find 8-10's or generally more experienced but older FLs? I will then decide whether to stay in Shangri-la or Mulia?

2. Are there good credible escort agency options,? I have already noted to consider Badoo, Tinder gold and Seeking Arrangement.

Thanks.

Vik.If I had to choose between the two I would stay at the Shangri-la. My company used the Mulia as the corporate hotel but I spent most of my time in BATS. CJ's was a lot darker, harder to see the selection, and BATS just had a better vibe. Was last in Jakarta last October and BATS was busy, so I suspect it has only got busier as the world has settled down. Both of them tended to be full of experienced FL. Was due to be there next week and was going to stay in the Shangri-la, but trip pushed to October.

BenderOver
08-05-23, 07:32
Thank you! Your info are very usefull. I look forward to use it.

So also e Kota Indah and Kelapa Gading are good like Classic?

About to ask to girls about mamasan, I will have to told "Di mana mamasan Anda?I know this forum is to help provide info. But wow, this one person probing for information has an uneasy feeling to it.

Even the translation app thing is a bad touch.

Dimana ibumu? <-That you don't pull from an app. You figure that out from banging 18-20 year old's a lots and tipping Ibu 50 k when she brings you someone you could fall in love with. Wow, I didn't realize I missed Jakarta so much.

Menteng
08-05-23, 11:17
I think I have posted these before. Probably only you and Smoothy (where's he now?) could name them.Shame on me! I blame the age for not remembering all their names. Besides, I also had been very intrigued by the lips of the one next to Prapti on the duo photo.

Turgid
08-05-23, 14:18
I think I have posted these before. Probably only you and Smoothy (where's he now?) could name them.Indos are hotter than Thais.

VikPunter
08-06-23, 09:12
If I had to choose between the two I would stay at the Shangri-la. My company used the Mulia as the corporate hotel but I spent most of my time in BATS. CJ's was a lot darker, harder to see the selection, and BATS just had a better vibe. Was last in Jakarta last October and BATS was busy, so I suspect it has only got busier as the world has settled down. Both of them tended to be full of experienced FL. Was due to be there next week and was going to stay in the Shangri-la, but trip pushed to October.Thanks IrishMongrel. Very helpful. I think I will go with your advice. Shame our schedules don't align otherwise it would have been great to have a drink together.

Others. Please let me know your views on the 2 clubs too. Also, if there any reliable high-end escort agencies / whatsapp / telegram contacts to tap into for high quality FLs.

I will post a report after my trip and can also help with my experience mainly in Europe. Switzerland, Germany. Please feel free to PM me.

Meepk
08-06-23, 17:31
This is for me and my friends of same interests, I have deep dived into the thread but don't find any information about 2 things.

Is there a place like a club where there are girls you can enjoy with (pool party)?

Is there a place to find Russians where they would hook up as well?

Gonz0
08-07-23, 01:26
I learned that Classic now opens at 2 pm and closes 1130 pm. Most girls arrive by 3 or 5 pm. Most guys come by 9 pm, maybe as early as 6 pm. So my plan is to go at about 4 and hope to hit the sweet spot.This was the most recent post that I could find with opening and closing times for Classic. Is it still the same now?

Zippos
08-07-23, 09:04
I was there until 2 am until music stops and lights came on. Not sure if that timing changes depending on the day if the week.

Ground floor was open until 4 am.

Hope this helps.


This was the most recent post that I could find with opening and closing times for Classic. Is it still the same now?

Gsrn111
08-08-23, 02:31
Any suggestions on good GF hotels to stay near travel and classic? How about jayakarta, orchard or 81? I see jayakarta and orchard have spa, are they functional?

Banana Boi
08-08-23, 21:38
Any suggestions on good GF hotels to stay near travel and classic? I'm not quite sure why you would want to stay near Travel or Classic neither of which are very nice areas or have many things to do near them. Stay somewhere within a 10 minute VERY cheap Bluebird ride. I'd suggest picking one of the many decent hotels along Gajah Mada / Hayum Waruk. If you have a bigger budget then stay at one of the nicer hotels down near Gran Indonesia. You're talking GF so I assume you're going to BATS and CJs for your girls. If so, definitely stay down south near one of the large malls.

Pouet017
08-08-23, 22:27
I'm not quite sure why you would want to stay near Travel or Classic neither of which are very nice areas or have many things to do near them. Stay somewhere within a 10 minute VERY cheap Bluebird ride. I'd suggest picking one of the many decent hotels along Gajah Mada / Hayum Waruk. If you have a bigger budget then stay at one of the nicer hotels down near Gran Indonesia. You're talking GF so I assume you're going to BATS and CJs for your girls. If so, definitely stay down south near one of the large malls.Or a taxi scooter booked with grab. Very convenient, you arrive quickly anywhere and get the feeling to be more a local than a tourist.

Kopi Hitam
08-12-23, 05:29
Anyone know any Jakarta bars with live music nowadays that aren't in the hotels? I'm thinking something similar to the Top Gun days.

Also, been meaning to check out H Club in SCBD. Anyone checked it out yet? Likely not the best place for picking up, but looks like an experience all the same.

PeterSmithson
08-13-23, 05:16
Was at BATS for the last two nights. I guess it's at 30 to 40 percent compared to pre Covid. It was Friday and Saturday and not full at all. But it was still good! More women then men. Lots of 6 and 7, a few 8 and 9.

Band starts at 10 pm And does sets of one hour in between DJ. At 10 place is empty, people start coming around 11.

ST 2 million, LT 3 million without much negotiation. Will return.

Peter.

United1
08-13-23, 07:25
Gents -.

I was have a dinner in Kunningam and feeling horny for quickie. But lazy to taxi anywhere like BATS. So I went to Basque around 11 pm to see quick pick up. 300 K drink cover charge. There were a mix of white mens and average looking freelancers. Nothing attractive like CJ, BATS, Malio. Easy to approach ladies. Found a 6/10 looking lass from Cenrral Javas. Friendly. Agreed to 2. 1 M. Came back to my place. Nice ]shag and she was leave my place in an hour. Which is good because I don't overnights.

I wouldn't recommend Basque, but its centrally located for those who want a fast flip.

Duolingy
08-13-23, 18:02
Apologies for being ignorant. I have going through the posts of initial 25 pages, there is a mentioning of multiple time an app called SA. I tried google but couldn't exactly figure out what does "SA" mean. Could anyone please help.

BKKguru
08-14-23, 18:00
Apologies for being ignorant. I have going through the posts of initial 25 pages, there is a mentioning of multiple time an app called SA. I tried google but couldn't exactly figure out what does "SA" mean. Could anyone please help.You ask tough questions, mate! LOL!
I believe SA stands for Seeking Arrangement. I have never used this site / App.

~Bkkguru

Banana Boi
08-15-23, 00:45
ST 2 million, LT 3 million without much negotiation. How much hotter is a BATS girl compared to a top bar girl who costs 365 k? Worth the 6 fold in price for ST?


I guess it's at 30 to 40 percent compared to pre Covid. It was Friday and Saturday and not full at all.

Can't believe COVID remains the main factor of a 60-70% decrease in the number of girls at BATS. There must be another reason.

Jktnoobie
08-15-23, 10:56
Hahahaha. This is the funniest post I have read on ISG in a long time. I, and many others on the forum have been travelling to Cambodia for several years to together. Some have been living there for well over a decade and we have never ever come across any BS of this sort.Let them keep thinking it's a lawless wasteland, there will be fewer tourists for us to compete with.

Gonz0
08-15-23, 15:09
Are there bars similar to the ones in Thailand with girls and pool tables in Jakarta?

Kopi Hitam
08-16-23, 11:22
I will be back in Jakarta for the first time in many years. I know places to party have mellowed since I was in my 30's fifteen years ago. Back then my mates and I had many fun nights at Stadium and Millie's. I am curious if here is anything like those old places now: dark, druggy, underground, anything goes, etc. If you were ever in Stadium or Millie's you know what I mean. I am hopeful some aspect clubs like that still exist.

Thank you.Also feeling nostalgic for those days but have so far been unsuccessful in finding current day alternatives. A worker in Lokasari said the 'big boss' has no intention of opening another club resembling what Mille's offered. I was told by a waiter in a seedy Magga Besar bar that the owners of Stadium were planning to re-open under a different name and location (the old building is currently up for sale). My sense is it will never offer the hedonistic menu of its glory days.

Having previously lived in kosts with a local party crowd during my 20's, the finger was much more on the pulse. So it could be the case a place still exists, but I'm now 'out of the loop'. Heck, I can't even find a dive bar with live music and a few loose lasses so I'm hardly the one to ask.

DocInHeat
08-16-23, 19:09
Here's one vote for be Fashion. I had a long layover in Jakarta, so I checked in on a Sunday afternoon and went to get relaxed. The KTV was around 4 million and then extra charge for FS with the girl, around 1, 1. 5 and 2 million depending on the level, but in fact, at that time, they only had 1 girl available! So I went to check the spa and why would anyone go anywhere else? Had 10 local girls for 1. 2 million and 8 Vietnamese girls for 2. 75 million. A couple of the Vietnamese girls were smoking hot. But I'm headed out there in a couple months and though most of the Indonesian girls were a little thinker than I like, I did see a girl just my type and went with her. It was a really great session. So good, I went back later that night to see her again! The sessions with Indonesians are 90 minutes and include a soapy massage if you want, the sessions with the foreign girls are 60 minutes and only sex.

Banana Boi
08-17-23, 01:26
The KTV was around 4 million and then extra charge for FS with the girl, around 1, 1. 5 and 2 million depending on the level, 4 million just for the room at a KTV? You pay twice as much to use the room as you do for FS? That's crazy insane.

18 girls for a Sunday afternoon. That's not bad.

Gardelito
08-17-23, 02:07
As promised, here's my Field Report:

Day 1: Classic, 21 yo Spinner from Bogor. Says she'd been working 1 month.

Looks: 7.5/10.

Body: 8/10.

Performance: 8/10.

Damage 365 K.

Day 2: Hotel Travel, threesome, girl 1: 21, slim, nice shape, no baby damage, but admitted that she had a 1 1/2 year old despite mamasan insisting otherwise. But she knew some English which helped with girl 2, who was fresh from Indramayu: 19, stunning spinner. First week and it showed. Seemed very inexperienced. The first girl helped guide her a bit as to what to do.

Girl 1:

L: 7/10.

Be: 7/10.

P 7/10.

Girl 2:

L: 10/10.

Be: 9/10.

P: 5/10.

Damage: 500 K.

Day 3:

Hotel Travel, 20 yo spinner, first week.

L: 7/10.

Be: 9. 5/10.

P: 8/10.

360 K.

Day 4:

Regular massage in kelapa gading. Ask for Juju. Didn't try for any extra service.

Day 5:

Classic, 19 yo, spinner, first day on the job. Best body I've every seen in person.

L: 7/10.

Be: 10/10.

P: 8/10.

Damage: 365 K.

Day 6:

King's Cross, 23 yo, fit, shapely, with one tattoo on leg.

L: 8.

Be: 8.

P: 8.

Damage: 600 Kish.

Day 7:

Pablo's Spa, only one girl available. Left and headed to Hotel Travel for a sure thing.

21 yo, claimed to be her second week. Who knows. Nice curvy body, but not fat. Terrible attitude.

L: 7/10.

B: 8/10.

P: 3/10.

Day 8:

Malio. Only explored the club section. Bought some lady drinks, did some touching while two girls danced on stage. Girls wearing thongs and basically topless with netting on top. Left without taking a girl to the room.

Damage: 800 k including my own drinks.

Day 9: KTV. Forget the name. A lot of fun if you're with a group. Girls weren't great looking, but fun to hang out with in the room. Gives time to build up chemistry.

Tinder: Amazing. Can be a challenge to weed through the pros (unless that's what you want) to find "real" girls, but very rewarding if you connect with the right local. Not going to go into detail, but was by far the most rewarding of the trip. In just a short time was able to build up a great connection with a normal office girl, which made it so much more interesting.

Damage: 0, other than cost for dinners.

Overall takeaways: Classic and Hotel Travel are basically equal IMO. Great value, some diamonds in the rough if you're patient. Just depends on the day, time and who happens to be there. I usually arrived early around 5 or 6. Mamasans are tough to shake. You immediately get claimed by one when you walk in (guessing they rotate) and then they insist you take one of their girls. Usually there's a decent one worth choosing within their group, but if you want to explore the other groups, they don't make it easy. Hold your ground and take your time. That's how I found some of the best options eventually. Also, I had great luck getting their contact info once in the room to arrange for them to come to hotel during the mornings or early afternoon when other options are lacking. Scheduled sessions with several of them after a test drive at the club. I find that they tend to be more relaxed and GFE there too. I did intend to try some of the smaller spas like Zaigon and Pablos to see how those experiences might differ, but I think you need to book a girl in advance otherwise the options are slim for walk in. So not as convenient as Classic or Hotel Travel. There's no shortage of options in Jakarta. In fact, too many to keep up with.

NinjaGoku
08-17-23, 09:48
Is DFK offered in Jakarta massage parlors as standard GFE service or as an extra?

Banana Boi
08-17-23, 20:45
AMamasans are tough to shake. You immediately get claimed by one when you walk in (guessing they rotate) and then they insist you take one of their girls. Usually there's a decent one worth choosing within their group, but if you want to explore the other groups, they don't make it easy. Hold your ground and take your time.First off nice reviews. Who is the slim girl with the big boobs? Is this the best body girl from Travel? You have her name or badge number?

As for Mamasans they're easy to shake just start walking around on your own looking at girls who belong to other mamasans. Even if it means having to drag mamasan around the club with you. Yes, mamsan waited a long time for you so she's not letting you go without a fight. After a couple of days mamasans will start recognizing you and you will be free to roam wherever you want.

Classic and Travel are so cheap. I still don't understand all those guys who are trying to cling on to the past when Soi 6 Pattaya used to be good. Girls MUCH prettier in Jakarta and for half the price.


Is DFK offered in Jakarta massage parlors as standard GFE service or as an extra?

DFK is pretty much standard in Jakarta but that's always a huge YMMV.

GentileBear
08-18-23, 02:12
I still don't understand all those guys who are trying to cling on to the past when Soi 6 Pattaya used to be good. Girls MUCH prettier in Jakarta and for half the price.

.BBFS CIP Sessions. That's why I am going (bare)back to Thailand instead of Indonesia next week...

True I am a partial hypocrite because I never made it to Travel or Classic. But did well in Indonesia on apps like Tinder and TanTan. From reading every post on Jakarta condoms are standard in Classic and Travel (usually). Soy 6 - add 500 baht for BBFS if needed.

This is my respectful and very real opinion.

And thank you Gardelito for the fresh report and pics!

Irish Mongrel
08-18-23, 04:26
As promised, here's my Field Report:

Tinder: Amazing. Can be a challenge to weed through the pros (unless that's what you want) to find "real" girls, but very rewarding if you connect with the right local. Not going to go into detail, but was by far the most rewarding of the trip. In just a short time was able to build up a great connection with a normal office girl, which made it so much more interesting.

Damage: 0, other than cost for dinners.

Glad to hear Tinder is still active as a go to spot. Haven; t used it for a while, but seems like it is still the same. Willing to put in some time and you can catch absolute diamonds.

SandyRandy2014
08-18-23, 10:09
This report is from earlier in the year. Spent a month in Jakarta. I've been there many times, but this time it was purely for fun. Having tried all the venues on previous trips, I wanted a no hassle point and shoot set-up. Based myself in Thamrin, travelled to Classic daily and blew my load 3 times every evening. Completed the day with a nasi goreng at the restaurant. Only two floors were open, if I remember its 375 k IDR for an hour. Best time is after 6. 30 PM, earlier it's almost empty. Generally the service is a mixed bag, but can't complain given it's so cheap. Some allow BB CIP, others not so much. Don't let the mamasan choose for you, from experience they give you the worst girls. Once chose a girl who was 'no baby'. But in the room, she was lactating and had signs she gave birth. Enjoyed suckling on those tits. I did not want to go to other places as from my experience as they're all pretty much the same, and there are enough girls in Classic. I don't like taking them out. Too much hassle with looking after belongings etc. Classic is a safe bet, and you won't feel bad if the punt was bad. Already planning my next trip. This time, I'll take PrEP just to be safe. Not that it prevented me going raw before.

A note, dancers will come to you and act all sweet to get you to buy them drinks. To take them to the rooms will cost you a few millions. Did not see any point with this, especially given the amount of pussy available.

Gonz0
08-18-23, 10:57
As promised, here's my Field Report:

...Overall takeaways: Classic and Hotel Travel are basically equal IMO. Great value, some diamonds in the rough if you're patient. Just depends on the day, time and who happens to be there. I usually arrived early around 5 or 6. Mamasans are tough to shake. You immediately get claimed by one when you walk in (guessing they rotate) and then they insist you take one of their girls. Usually there's a decent one worth choosing within their group, but if you want to explore the other groups, they don't make it easy. Hold your ground and take your time. That's how I found some of the best options eventually...Thanks for your report.

Is there any difference between the two places in regards to room quality. Bed, shower, etc?

Were Mamasans the same at both places, or were they easier / harder to deal with at one?

Offshore Swell
08-18-23, 15:11
Is DFK offered in Jakarta massage parlors as standard GFE service or as an extra?To dissect your question perhaps could we could start with another couple of questions. - Do you have rotten teeth and gingivitis? Do you look like a young Tom Cruise or does you cock hide under a beer belly?

These kind of generalistic questions are a little frustrating, It's a big town and sex in Indonesia is not as limited by the constructs that the Christian West has built around the concept. If you want a guaranteed DFK then best bet is to grab a love doll at your local sex shop. Alternately you could visit Jakarta, smile, be nice to the girl, be genuine and she might just want to give you a nice big sloppy, wet DFK. It all kind of depends on just how transactional you expect things to be and how you present. OS would argue that in any society if theres a little spark then the rest just flows, and certainly in Jakarta that does not exclude a lot of working girls.

It may help to take the view that a DFK is a lovely bonus when performed telderly and willingly by the lady. But the thought that it was there for the taking just because it was paid for probably won't cut it with a lot of these girls.

CodeName47
08-18-23, 16:10
Thanks for your report.

Is there any difference between the two places in regards to room quality. Bed, shower, etc?

Were Mamasans the same at both places, or were they easier / harder to deal with at one?I know you are asking Gardelito .

In my opinion, classic has better rooms and girls. But at times Travel surprises me as well. When I go Jakarta I visit both. Now a days leaning more towards classic than travel though.

Banana Boi
08-18-23, 23:23
BBFS CIP Sessions. That's why I am going (bare)back to Thailand instead of Indonesia next week...

True I am a partial hypocrite because I never made it to Travel or Classic. If you're looking for BBFS you missed nothing by skipping Classic and Travel. They are not known for BBFS, for non regulars and first timers with a girl.

Guys go to Classic and Travel because they want lots of girls in one place, girls with better than average looks, cheap prices, and very clean rooms to have sex in. You see loads of housekeepers along the hallways ready to clean rooms. Some of the VIP rooms for regulars in Classic are over 200 sqm. The "Photography" room is just impressive.


A note, dancers will come to you and act all sweet to get you to buy them drinks. To take them to the rooms will cost you a few millions.

Only ever saw 1 dancer at Classic worth this price. Didn't even cross my mind to ask her to a room. I would have dished out 2 million for her she was that hot. Now if we're talking 3+ million I would have said no more based on principle.

GentileBear
08-18-23, 23:42
If you're looking for BBFS you missed nothing by skipping Classic and Travel. .I hear you. Jakarta was good for Mall meets using Tinder and TanTan. If I ever get back there. That's how I'll continue with the game.

Granite St8
08-20-23, 05:54
This report is from a short visit in May. Stayed in South Jakarta for a few nights so tried a few of the spas recommended on the forum.

Went to the'Heaven on a Friday night around 8 pm. Girls are shown on a phone, guess you could scout out a bit on their IG first. It was quite busy that night so only had like 5 girls available and only 1 was for FS the rest BJ only. The front desk mama really recommended one girl and since no one else peaked my interest I went with her. I had the same locker number as my chosen girl #36 so we were off to a good start. Up the elevator we went to the next floor and my girl Ella 27 yo was waiting outside the room upon arrival. Neither thrilled nor disappointed by her looks, she immediately began with some GFE by unbuttoning and removing my shirt which was sweet and sexy on her part upon first encounter. This maneuver served as a great reminder that sex appeal often oozes more through someones self-confidence and personality rather than just physical appearance. Onto the massage where she began by getting down to her underwear (which again I took as a sign of confidence or maybe just standard procedure?) and she had a nice, relaxing and sensual touch. After the flip the action began and moved naturally into some passionate DFK, damn this girl was sneaky sexy. Found out FS was not on the table since she was on her cycle and she would not budge on the CBJ. Surprisingly, her talented oral skills were no match for that raincoat. Overall a great experience, was my second visit to the the'heaven and both times left very satisfied. Spa has a nice ambiance, good quality selection and well worth the 700-800 k service. Plan a return trip to Jakarta soon but a message to check if Ella is still there was not answered.

Next night went to Aquarius spa in Blok M around 7:30 p. The place was quite dead and a lineup of about 15-20 girls was on offer (their IG says lineup showing available after 7 pm). Was tough to get a good look at the options as a. All the girls wear the same black sorta night gown which doesn't accentuate their features and does not distinguish them from each other and be. I had sat at the front of the lounge and the far end of the lineup was a bit aways. Anyways I chose the young spinner Bella who was smiley upon name introduction. Up we went and found out our sweet Bella 21 yo had just been there for 2 days after working at a KTV prior. She had moved to Jakarta just a few months before from the kampung to support her newborn as the father was a supposed deadbeat (can assume this is a common story with many girls in the industry) Her massage was just as expected from a tiny girl with 2 days massage experience and the CFS (I think I had to suggest the coverage) was uninspired as she was ready to be done from the get go. Can't win 'them all. Total damage 615 k.

SeaTraveler
08-20-23, 13:34
Anyone know any Jakarta bars with live music nowadays that aren't in the hotels? I'm thinking something similar to the Top Gun days.

Also, been meaning to check out H Club in SCBD. Anyone checked it out yet? Likely not the best place for picking up, but looks like an experience all the same.Went to Gold Dragon last week with my new Indonesian wife. Club is in a mall-like building. Younger crowd (I'm 68). Good band. Good atmosphere. This is not a pickup place like Top Gun, but you didn't ask for that. There were tables with just women.
I'm back in the USA now & she went last night with some girlfriends and sent me videos.
Good luck.

Gilolo
08-23-23, 11:42
BBFS CIP Sessions. That's why I am going (bare)back to Thailand instead of Indonesia next week...

True I am a partial hypocrite because I never made it to Travel or Classic. But did well in Indonesia on apps like Tinder and TanTan. From reading every post on Jakarta condoms are standard in Classic and Travel (usually). Soy 6 - add 500 baht for BBFS if needed.

This is my respectful and very real opinion.

And thank you Gardelito for the fresh report and pics!I totally agree with you! Me too, I travel all the time to Thailand Pattaya or Colombia Medellin because all girls accept very easily BBFS + CIP. And YES in Soi 6 Pattaya, usually with 500 bahts more girls accept bareback! 15 years I'm going Pattaya, I always start the day around 5 pm with a girl in Soi 6 for 1000 Bahts and usually I pay her 1500 because no condom! I'm very famous in Soi 6, all the girls know me, I think I fuck girls in all the bars of Soi 6.

United1
08-28-23, 15:58
Great report. Never heard of these place, but I am tempted to try. Did you feel safe at these place? Were they sketchy or legit? As that area is a rich part of towns.


This report is from a short visit in May. Stayed in South Jakarta for a few nights so tried a few of the spas recommended on the forum.

Went to the'Heaven on a Friday night around 8 pm. Girls are shown on a phone, guess you could scout out a bit on their IG first. It was quite busy that night so only had like 5 girls available and only 1 was for FS the rest BJ only. The front desk mama really recommended one girl and since no one else peaked my interest I went with her. I had the same locker number as my chosen girl #36 so we were off to a good start. Up the elevator we went to the next floor and my girl Ella 27 yo was waiting outside the room upon arrival. Neither thrilled nor disappointed by her looks, she immediately began with some GFE by unbuttoning and removing my shirt which was sweet and sexy on her part upon first encounter. This maneuver served as a great reminder that sex appeal often oozes more through someones self-confidence and personality rather than just physical appearance. Onto the massage where she began by getting down to her underwear (which again I took as a sign of confidence or maybe just standard procedure?) and she had a nice, relaxing and sensual touch. After the flip the action began and moved naturally into some passionate DFK, damn this girl was sneaky sexy. Found out FS was not on the table since she was on her cycle and she would not budge on the CBJ. Surprisingly, her talented oral skills were no match for that raincoat. Overall a great experience, was my second visit to the the'heaven and both times left very satisfied. Spa has a nice ambiance, good quality selection and well worth the 700-800 k service. Plan a return trip to Jakarta soon but a message to check if Ella is still there was not answered..

Granite St8
08-29-23, 01:22
Great report. Never heard of these place, but I am tempted to try. Did you feel safe at these place? Were they sketchy or legit? As that area is a rich part of towns.That is actually a typo, should read the'heaven spa. Yes both spas are certainly legit and not sketchy whatsoever with the'heaven having much nicer rooms and facilities complete with sauna, steam, hot and cold pool. Only negative thing would be that you choose girls from a phone but I've hit 2 for 2 on my visits. The'heaven has another location as well in Kelapa Gading, good time there too, bro found exactly the shape of girl I wanted.

WeKilledKenny
08-30-23, 05:49
Last night was a visit to the narrow streets off Jl. Hayam Waruk. These are the narrow roads east side of the Mangga Besar Busway bridge. Let's call them then Jl. Kebon Jeruk series. It had been about 10 years since the last visit, so curiosity struck and mild exploration was overdue.

The first visit was the street with the old Stadium. I was seeking a dive bar for a drink and asked around, but to no avail. This was around 9 pm and it seemed pretty quiet, aside from the usual shady characters hanging outside.

Heading north, the next street running parallel resembled Stalingrad circa. 1943. Not much doing apart from some very base massage options. Upon an invite from a mamasan into the kost behind her, I queried about places to get a drink. She said there were none on that road, but a bar on the next parallel street running north. So off I went.

Entering this next street with the Suisse Bakery landmark, options were pretty limited. As other posters have mentioned, Berlian is no longer. The only option was Royal Mas at the end of the culdesac. I popped in there for a beer. Level 1 is set up similar to the KI bars. But it's not quite as loud as Karaoke is the music option rather than blaring happy house Chinese. There were about 10-15 women that were all far left of the bell curve.

Content to settle with a beer, I got chatting with the bar tender. Royal Mas opened up there 2 months ago, having moved from its original location. There's 3 levels. Level 1 is a bar (with overpriced beer), Level 2 are the rooms (350 rb total) for a 1 hour full service massage. Level 3 is a lounge. Interestingly, we got chatting about Stadium. Apparently the original owners have just been issued with a new permit to re-open Stadium at the same site. Although under a different name.

After a beer, I left Royal Mas feeling underwhelmed. Returning to the street one row south I revisited the mamasan from earlier. Curiosity got the better of me. Prices were negotiable and she started at a hefty 500 rb. We agreed on 300 rb. It was a bit more than I thought was standard, but felt close enough. I was later told the mamasan clips the ticket at 70 rb for each session. The remainder goes to the girl.

There are 4 kosts inside. These are also where the women live and they pay their own rent of 2. 1 jt per month. As such, the rooms are very homely. The one I used had family photos hanging on the wall and I interrupted her watching Sinetron. The room was pristine. The lady not so much. However, she was friendly and it felt just like hanging out at someone's place. No English was spoken here, so some Indonesian helps.Was that Jalan Kebon Jeruk XIX? Front or Behind Antoni Hotel?

QuackUp
09-01-23, 00:45
Had two nights in Jakarta before going to Thailand. Took Eva Air business class and the service was great. I did the evisa and custom form before the trip. At first I had trouble doing the evisa but eventually I was able to complete it. Custom form was very easy. Not sure it helped because I was third off the plane but for whatever reason, the evoa line barely moved. There were only four persons in front of me but everyone in the regular voa line went through before me. It was so bad that by the time I got to baggage claim, the belt had stopped and only four suitcases were next to it. I guess I was next to last to claim my suitcase. Went outside to catch a bluebird taxi but came across a grab lounge. So just took that instead so I wouldn't have to pay cash. I stayed at the Grand Mercury Harmoni which is in a great location for me. Only bad thing, since there is construction on the main street, the bridge that goes across it, isn't there anymore. If you wanted to go across the street to the plaza, you had to walk about a quarter mile down, cross the street, then quarter mile back up to get there. Since my time was short I only visited two places. First was Pablo's cave and resto. This place is far from the hotel, up north near the mall of asia. The facilities were nice with hot and cold jacuzzy and a dry sauna. The cost for the hour was $770,000. What I didn't like about this place, you don't get a live presentation. You pick from a tablet. I picked a very pretty girl off the tablet but when face to face she was bigger than what I expected. The session was fine and I had fun but unless they change and let you pick from a live lineup, I don't think I will return. Second place was Emporium. Last time I was here I had great sessions. There were only about twelve girls in the lineup but there was one that I liked and chose her. The prices here are $1,200.000 and $1. 400.000. Not sure how to tell the difference. The girl I picked was $1. 200.000. Very pretty girl who gave a good session. Both girls gave great BBBJ. What was lacking at both places and why I liked this city so much, was the lack of passion. I still had fun but for a session to be great I need that passion. I got that the last time I was here but unfortunately I didn't pick right this time. Now off to Thailand.

Turgid
09-02-23, 17:08
Had two nights in Jakarta before going to Thailand. Took Eva Air business class and the service was great. I did the evisa and custom form before the trip. At first I had trouble doing the evisa but eventually I was able to complete it. Custom form was very easy. Not sure it helped because I was third off the plane but for whatever reason, the evoa line barely moved. There were only four persons in front of me but everyone in the regular voa line went through before me. It was so bad that by the time I got to baggage claim, the belt had stopped and only four suitcases were next to it. I guess I was next to last to claim my suitcase. Went outside to catch a bluebird taxi but came across a grab lounge. So just took that instead so I wouldn't have to pay cash. I stayed at the Grand Mercury Harmoni which is in a great location for me. Only bad thing, since there is construction on the main street, the bridge that goes across it, isn't there anymore. If you wanted to go across the street to the plaza, you had to walk about a quarter mile down, cross the street, then quarter mile back up to get there. Since my time was short I only visited two places. First was Pablo's cave and resto. This place is far from the hotel, up north near the mall of asia. The facilities were nice with hot and cold jacuzzy and a dry sauna. The cost for the hour was $770,000. What I didn't like about this place, you don't get a live presentation. You pick from a tablet. I picked a very pretty girl off the tablet but when face to face she was bigger than what I expected. The session was fine and I had fun but unless they change and let you pick from a live lineup, I don't think I will return. Second place was Emporium. Last time I was here I had great sessions. There were only about twelve girls in the lineup but there was one that I liked and chose her. The prices here are $1,200.000 and $1. 400.000. Not sure how to tell the difference. The girl I picked was $1. 200.000. Very pretty girl who gave a good session. Both girls gave great BBBJ. What was lacking at both places and why I liked this city so much, was the lack of passion. I still had fun but for a session to be great I need that passion. I got that the last time I was here but unfortunately I didn't pick right this time. Now off to Thailand.You could have gone to Malioboro, its a short walk from the hotel.

Banana Boi
09-02-23, 17:59
You could have gone to Malioboro, its a short walk from the hotel.He was within a 10 minute 3 USD Bluebird ride from Kota Indah, Travel, Classic and a whole bunch of other places where he could have had 4 girls for the price of one without giving anything up on looks. Malio is fine but way overpriced imo. You find decent girls there who don't try squeezing 20 shots out of you first?

QuackUp
09-03-23, 04:40
You could have gone to Malioboro, its a short walk from the hotel.Yes, thanks but I forgot to put in my report that I wanted to try one place I haven't been to before and one that I thought would be reliable.

Frisky Frank
09-03-23, 14:49
Classic Hotel is amazing. I read the forum back 10+ pages. Made notes. Marked places up on my google map to check out while I'm here. Did enough due diligence to have options here, but I think I'll throw it all out the window and just keep repeating at Classic.

I would come back to Jakarta just for this little honey hole if I was buzzing around SEA again in the future. What a delightful place.

VonderJohn
09-04-23, 18:42
Classic Hotel is amazing. I read the forum back 10+ pages. Made notes. Marked places up on my google map to check out while I'm here. Did enough due diligence to have options here, but I think I'll throw it all out the window and just keep repeating at Classic.

I would come back to Jakarta just for this little honey hole if I was buzzing around SEA again in the future. What a delightful place.Many have been saying that this place can be a ripoff, the dancers can be deceitful and that it is more about your money than your pleasure and should be avoided. How accurate is that?

Frisky Frank
09-05-23, 15:40
I haven't experienced anything of the sort. I've gone early before the crowd. I've had 4 different girls there from 4 different mamas and they all gave me the exact same price. My water was the same price every time. The mamas haven't asked me for a tip, the girls haven't asked me for a tip, the door people haven't asked me for a tip. No one is trying to get anything extra out of me over what the standard pricing is for services and drinks. The gratuity is built into the drinks. I don't tip the waitresses, you can see the service charge on your check when you cash out to leave.

When I pick a girl, or if a mama brings me a girl I want, I talk to the girl first using google translate and simply say "I want service without a condom" and they either agree or they don't agree. If they say no, I wave goodbye and move to a different area and sit in front of some girls until a mama comes over and I either point to a girl I want or she brings one over. Repeat until I find a girl that will give me bareback sex. I have never had to ask more than 2 girls before one agrees. There is no discussion of additional cost for the service without a condom. It seems a lot of them are just happy to be working. After the session with the girl I give them 100 k rupiah as a tip for giving me bareback sex. They smile and thank me and seem genuinely pleased they were given extra money. I also tip the person that comes to clean up my room after we finish, typically 10,000 Rupiah.


Many have been saying that this place can be a ripoff, the dancers can be deceitful and that it is more about your money than your pleasure and should be avoided. How accurate is that?

Frisky Frank
09-05-23, 16:00
Travel has a very similar set up as Classic. I hit up classic and then walked to Travel for round 2. The price difference for one hour with a girl is 10,000 rupiah. Less than a dollar. I am glad I came to Jakarta. Pussy is cheap and it is plentiful and I've probably viewed 300+ working girls total between the two places and I don't think I've seen a single one over 25 ish at either of these two places. These girls must get sent away to work somewhere else as they age out.

BKKguru
09-06-23, 08:18
Travel has a very similar set up as Classic. I hit up classic and then walked to Travel for round 2. The price difference for one hour with a girl is 10,000 rupiah. Less than a dollar. I am glad I came to Jakarta. Pussy is cheap and it is plentiful and I've probably viewed 300+ working girls total between the two places and I don't think I've seen a single one over 25 ish at either of these two places. These girls must get sent away to work somewhere else as they age out.Yes, the price is comparable between Classic and Travel. However, the primary difference is:

Travel is much smaller than Classic. In Classic you have a choice of two different floors.
In Travel you only have one floor. The number of girls in Travel is adequate. But the choice is less when compared to Classic.

~BKKguru

Irish Mongrel
09-07-23, 11:54
Have found myself in Jakarta for a couple of nights. Not a good time with the ASEAN meeting going on. Went out last night after arriving in hotel. Wanted to see how the FL scene was looking and came back very disappointed. Did a quick run out to EP in Kemang to catch up with a couple of friends for a beer, and it was pretty much a sausage fest. Was there from about 9:30 pm. There where a few girls milling around in the main bar and a party of girls floating around in the restaurant, but the rest of the place was empty. One stunner playing pool, but she seemed to be a girlfriend, more than P4 P.

Mates headed home around 11 pm, so I decided to head back to my hotel via BATS to see if there was anything worth picking up. BATS was my place of choice pre-Covid, and I did visit when I was here a year ago, that was ladies night and there was a good, although expensive, selection. That night I left with an "old faithful" that I hadn't seen for a few years and she was more than happy for 100 $ in her pocket.

This time around, well it looked like a collection of middle aged mothers, but not a lot in the MILF section. I'm guessing the fact that my beer goggles weren't engaged probably brought me down to reality. There was one girl in her mid 20's who was definitely hot, but I suspect she thought she had a golden pussy, as three guys passed thru conversation with her over the hour I was there, and all walked away! The rest of the women where well past their use by date, a couple that I may have been tempted towards where smokers, which is an automatic strike out for me. One other point, the band, which used to be a definite plus for BATS was pretty mediocre.

So it was a quick couple of drinks and then off empty handed to my hotel. If your not to fussed with regards to age and looks, then there will be something there for you. But this 60 year old tends to be picky, especially when I'm relatively sober, so it was exit stage left for me, or should I say up the stairs.

May head out tonight again, just for the hell of it. Did have my freebie, now graduated, Uni student come across this afternoon for a bit of fun. She may have got married since I last saw her but she still hankers for some bule. So the couple of nights I will have been her for haven't been a complete drought.

One another note, there is activity on WeChat, couldn't be bothered dealing with the possible drama on that on a short trip, but decided to see what the activity level was, and I have been getting pinged on my account since I reset my location - 16 connection requests over a couple of hours.

Hilo77
09-08-23, 04:45
But this 60 year old tends to be picky, especially when I'm relatively sober, so it was exit stage left for me.It's weird, but the older we get, the more picky and blase we become. This is counter-intuitive, I mean the older and saggier we become we should be ever more grateful for any morsel that lands near our plate. Maybe we're just spoiled by Jakarta, I don't know.

I find I can't even be bothered with a re-match now, no matter how hot the girl may be. I met this 25 yo a few weeks back, absolutely gorgeous, lovely smile, great personality, knew how to crack a joke and more importantly when to laugh at my jokes. Perhaps her only drawback was she had a kid and her boobs wouldn't have been as pert as they once were but still, definitely an 8. 5.

But best of all she was an absolute polecat in the sack. I mean she was into it all, the filthier the better, and she loved it. I couldn't believe it, here's a combo that if I had met 30 years ago in my hometown I would have fallen head over heels in love with, promising marriage, the works, I'd have been walking on the clouds for a week after.

We exchanged numbers and on the way home I was thinking when I could next meet up with her and all the things I'd do. The next morning, however, I'm getting text messages, when can we meet again? And what will we do? But I'm like, "Meh, I've been there, done that. Sure, it was great but do I really need a repeat?

The messages got so desperate, so pleading that I eventually blocked her.

I mean who needs that at our time of life? Am I right?

Irish Mongrel
09-08-23, 16:18
I met this 25 yo a few weeks back, absolutely gorgeous, lovely smile, great personality, knew how to crack a joke and more importantly when to laugh at my jokes. Perhaps her only drawback was she had a kid and her boobs wouldn't have been as pert as they once were but still, definitely an 8. 5.

But best of all she was an absolute polecat in the sack. I mean she was into it all, the filthier the better, and she loved it. I couldn't believe it, here's a combo that if I had met 30 years ago in my hometown I would have fallen head over heels in love with, promising marriage, the works, I'd have been walking on the clouds for a week after.
Sounds like we were shagging the same girl. I've actually just skidded my freebie regular. Was 21 when I met her, now 27 and used to be insatiable when it came to sex. Introduced me to BDSM (she loved it rough) and lots of other fun activities, and was all the things you mentioned above. Used to be fit as fuck, but marriage and pregnancy and lack of exercise has added at least 10 kg (+25%) onto her body and that has definitely choked her horny side. So I've decided the risk of screwing a married women was just not worth it.

Giovanni Volo
09-08-23, 21:26
I leave a short report of my stay in Jakarta.

Classic.

Fabulous. Around 365 k (24 euro) euro for 1 hour with a girl. Most of them are beautiful in body but so-so (not ugly) in face.

On the first day however I found a gorgeous 19 year old (so she claimed, if she has a few years more not many). Kind, helpful and always smiling. We had a good time (at least I did, and she seemed to).

Second day, her again. 2 hours for 730 k (48 euros) euros plus tip 100 k (6 euros).

Fifth day, I don't find anyone who attracts me. I have a drink before going out, another round, and a wonder. First time doing it for work. Scared at first, but then everything was fine.

Clean rooms.

Travel.

Noisy disco. But there's an OK little bar behind it. Found a nice one, which I didn't like that much. But everything is subjective. 1 hour.

365 k (24 euro) euro plus tip politely solicited 100 k (6 euro).

Clean roomsKaraoche near China Town: Laras Ayu, New Satiayu Club, .

In this area there are many karaoches where there is no singing, of course. Full of beautiful girls. I visit many of them. Picked up a pretty one 19 years old declared, the mamasan asked me to be gentle because she was still in her infancy. But then saggy breasts and an obvious cold. She was sick, poor thing, but that was really annoying for me. The mamasan on the way back asked me how it had gone and I said all was well, I didn't feel like railing on a sick girl. Although that evening maybe she should have finished and rested. Maybe I should have said it for that. Price 400 k about 1 hour (more than classic, for us little more).

Rooms clean but not nice. In my opinion to be renovatedOther.

Visited a hotel venue, can't remember the name. Super concert. But chicks in their 40's or a pull. Chased by women I didn't like. Escaped home.

In my hotel nice time wit a yoga teacher working in Jakarta. Nice girl.

Jakarta, in my opinion a nice GT destination. High quality at an excellent price.

For the rest, however, the city largely sucks (no pavements, very hot, ugly, lots of women wearing headscarves, often unpleasant people).

Giovanni Volo
09-08-23, 21:28
Yes, the price is comparable between Classic and Travel. However, the primary difference is:

Travel is much smaller than Classic. In Classic you have a choice of two different floors.
In Travel you only have one floor. The number of girls in Travel is adequate. But the choice is less when compared to Classic.

~BKKguruI was in Classic (I just posted a report).

I was three times on second floor. A bar, a lot of girls, few crazy nice. But I need one, it was always right.

I read about two floors. I the first floor the was a disco: it was full of girls too? How was music volume? I hate to much noise.

Offshore Swell
09-08-23, 23:39
It's weird, but the older we get, the more picky and blase we become. This is counter-intuitive, I mean the older and saggier we become we should be ever more grateful for any morsel that lands near our plate. Probably a product of the abundant choice. I mean Jakarta just smells of sex. That's after the car fumes and the sewers of course but you can just look at most them and know what is pulsing away underneath.

OS is at home with lady OS when a middle aged aquaintance of hers comes to visit for the specific purpose of requesting whether we can find her a bule. On the way back down in the lift she is quizzing lady OS about what it is all like to be squirming around on the end of OS's big thing. Or another couple of friends where dressed with big round glasses in a nice conservative muslim dress, she never misses a chance of a sly rub. The same lady who when OS first started discovering the pleasures of Indonesia would find girls from the local neighbourhood and bring them to OS hotel with her husband. Ya got to love this place.

Any readers who have spent time on the sea will understand the equation whereby the longer the voyage, the better looking the girls are at the end (And OS means any girl.) A fortnight at sea and you can find yourself staring lustily at any old boiler. Fortunately in Jakarta you can experience the opposite where after a long night of fornicating. OS has got his big thing buried in another firm breasted little 19 yo and wondering if he should just stop and have a beer. Ah Jakarta!

Goatscrot
09-09-23, 01:15
It's weird, but the older we get, the more picky and blase we become. This is counter-intuitive, I mean the older and saggier we become we should be ever more grateful for any morsel that lands near our plate. Maybe we're just spoiled by Jakarta, I don't know.

I find I can't even be bothered with a re-match now, no matter how hot the girl may be. I met this 25 yo a few weeks back, absolutely gorgeous, lovely smile, great personality, knew how to crack a joke and more importantly when to laugh at my jokes. Perhaps her only drawback was she had a kid and her boobs wouldn't have been as pert as they once were but still, definitely an 8. 5.

But best of all she was an absolute polecat in the sack. I mean she was into it all, the filthier the better, and she loved it. I couldn't believe it, here's a combo that if I had met 30 years ago in my hometown I would have fallen head over heels in love with, promising marriage, the works, I'd have been walking on the clouds for a week after.

We exchanged numbers and on the way home I was thinking when I could next meet up with her and all the things I'd do. The next morning, however, I'm getting text messages, when can we meet again? And what will we do? But I'm like, "Meh, I've been there, done that. Sure, it was great but do I really need a repeat?

The messages got so desperate, so pleading that I eventually blocked her.

I mean who needs that at our time of life? Am I right?Absolutely agree. I've gotten way pickier as I've aged. Perhaps with the drop in testosterone as we get older all the boxes have to be ticked to really get us going.

GentileBear
09-09-23, 22:48
Anyone know specifically where I can get real Cialis here in Jakarta? Thanks.

Irish Mongrel
09-10-23, 05:06
Anyone know specifically where I can get real Cialis here in Jakarta? Thanks.I tended to buy from the smaller Apotek, tending to stay clear of the big chain pharmacy's who have occasionally knocked me back. Basically do a google search for Apotek where you are staying and you'll find a multiple of small independent shops. Didn; t get any the last trip as I had stocked up in KL last month.

Offshore Swell
09-10-23, 08:19
Anyone know specifically where I can get real Cialis here in Jakarta? Thanks.Apotek Roxy, jl Mangga Besar.

GentileBear
09-10-23, 15:52
Apotek Roxy, jl Mangga Besar.Thank you Sir and Mr. Irish Mongrel.

HotDog666
09-10-23, 23:38
I'm getting really interested at the prospect of visiting Jakarta.

I'm really into being rimmed. Are indo girls into this? Where do I find these that are? And how do I ask for it if they don't speak English?

Thanks in advance.

Giovanni Volo
09-11-23, 14:38
Anyone know specifically where I can get real Cialis here in Jakarta? Thanks.In Pharmacy.

Always09
09-12-23, 07:24
Was in Jakarta for a week and things have picked up post Covid.

Malio still has the vibe.

BATS and CJs had a few good ones. LE M has oldies.

Visited a few Karoakes-.

So if you are ready to spend and enjoy. Jakarta rocks.

Just need to find the right place and make sure you don't negotiate too much.

Mgp23
09-14-23, 10:54
This report is from a short visit in May. Stayed in South Jakarta for a few nights so tried a few of the spas recommended on the forum.

Went to the'Heaven on a Friday night around 8 pm. Girls are shown on a phone, guess you could scout out a bit on their IG first. It was quite busy that night so only had like 5 girls available and only 1 was for FS the rest BJ only. The front desk mama really recommended one girl and since no one else peaked my interest I went with her. I had the same locker number as my chosen girl #36 so we were off to a good start. Up the elevator we went to the next floor and my girl Ella 27 yo was waiting outside the room upon arrival. Neither thrilled nor disappointed by her looks, she immediately began with some GFE by unbuttoning and removing my shirt which was sweet and sexy on her part upon first encounter. This maneuver served as a great reminder that sex appeal often oozes more through someones self-confidence and personality rather than just physical appearance. Onto the massage where she began by getting down to her underwear (which again I took as a sign of confidence or maybe just standard procedure?) and she had a nice, relaxing and sensual touch. After the flip the action began and moved naturally into some passionate DFK, damn this girl was sneaky sexy. Found out FS was not on the table since she was on her cycle and she would not budge on the CBJ. Surprisingly, her talented oral skills were no match for that raincoat. Overall a great experience, was my second visit to the the'heaven and both times left very satisfied. Spa has a nice ambiance, good quality selection and well worth the 700-800 k service. Plan a return trip to Jakarta soon but a message to check if Ella is still there was not answered.
Great report man, would you have both of their IG? I can't find them anywhere.

Expat American
09-15-23, 08:59
Although I've been living in Singapore over 4 years, I have never made the trip to Jakarta, because I always default to Philippines and Thailand which are more familiar to me. Anyway, decided to take the plunge for a short 3 night exploratory stay in Jakarta at the end of this month. Question I had was hotel location. I see the Grand Mercure Harmoni is the closest to the action but I have points on Marriott and get a free 3 nights at much better hotels (Westin, LE Meridien, JW Marriott) etc. If I stay in one of those its a 40 min cab ride to Classic or Travel. But closer to BATS, CJ; s etc. Does it make sense to stay in South Jakarta and take a daily ride to Classic in the afternoon, and then maybe the FL clubs in the South at night? Is the South a nicer area to stay in terms of dining options etc? How about massage shops (legit and naughty) in either area?

Also anyone in Jakarta those days want to meet up I am happy to do so.

Axel Heyst
09-15-23, 13:20
Although I've been living in Singapore over 4 years, I have never made the trip to Jakarta, because I always default to Philippines and Thailand which are more familiar to me. Anyway, decided to take the plunge for a short 3 night exploratory stay in Jakarta at the end of this month. Question I had was hotel location. I see the Grand Mercure Harmoni is the closest to the action but I have points on Marriott and get a free 3 nights at much better hotels (Westin, LE Meridien, JW Marriott) etc. If I stay in one of those its a 40 min cab ride to Classic or Travel. But closer to BATS, CJ; s etc. Does it make sense to stay in South Jakarta and take a daily ride to Classic in the afternoon, and then maybe the FL clubs in the South at night? Is the South a nicer area to stay in terms of dining options etc? How about massage shops (legit and naughty) in either area?

The Mercure Harmoni is a fine 4 star hotel in close proximity to Malio & Classic. You can't go wrong staying at this hotel for a short duration trip. But that said, I prefer to stay at various 5 star hotels in the Golden Triangle in the south. I have both the Marriott and Hyatt CC's, so staying on points and free voucher nights at these hotels is the best deal in town.

So, for Mariott members, let me recommend the The Ritz-Carlton Jakarta, Mega Kuningan over the Marriott. It is a much nicer hotel for approximately the same number of points. I also like the Grand Hyatt. What you get on top of great accommodations at these 5 stars is a great garden / pool area to relax and unwind in the afternoon before hitting the bordellos and a great breakfast buffet to start out the day.

The Grand Hyatt is located almost halfway in between Malio and Cj's and is situated on top of the most luxurious shopping mall in Jakarta. It takes an extra 10 minutes to taxi from The Ritz-Carlton Jakarta, Mega Kuningan or the Marriott to travel north to the bordellos, for example, but it takes less time to taxi to CJ's. And travel time from the Grand Hyatt to Malio is approximately 20 minutes at 8:30 pm, so staying in the south is not a problem as far as the bordellos are concerned and travelling from Malio or anywhere in the north to CJ's around midnight is not a problem either.

Have a great time.

A. H.

Gymgoer1
09-15-23, 13:47
Although I've been living in Singapore over 4 years, I have never made the trip to Jakarta, because I always default to Philippines and Thailand which are more familiar to me. Anyway, decided to take the plunge for a short 3 night exploratory stay in Jakarta at the end of this month. Question I had was hotel location. I see the Grand Mercure Harmoni is the closest to the action but I have points on Marriott and get a free 3 nights at much better hotels (Westin, LE Meridien, JW Marriott) etc. If I stay in one of those its a 40 min cab ride to Classic or Travel. But closer to BATS, CJ; s etc. Does it make sense to stay in South Jakarta and take a daily ride to Classic in the afternoon, and then maybe the FL clubs in the South at night? Is the South a nicer area to stay in terms of dining options etc? How about massage shops (legit and naughty) in either area?

Also anyone in Jakarta those days want to meet up I am happy to do so.Shall be at Jakarta night time 8 pm. Flight from klia2. Till 30 Sep.

Staying at mangga besar area.

JSmithJ88
09-15-23, 13:56
Although I've been living in Singapore over 4 years, I have never made the trip to Jakarta, because I always default to Philippines and Thailand which are more familiar to me. Anyway, decided to take the plunge for a short 3 night exploratory stay in Jakarta at the end of this month. Question I had was hotel location. I see the Grand Mercure Harmoni is the closest to the action but I have points on Marriott and get a free 3 nights at much better hotels (Westin, LE Meridien, JW Marriott) etc. If I stay in one of those its a 40 min cab ride to Classic or Travel. But closer to BATS, CJ; s etc. Does it make sense to stay in South Jakarta and take a daily ride to Classic in the afternoon, and then maybe the FL clubs in the South at night? Is the South a nicer area to stay in terms of dining options etc? How about massage shops (legit and naughty) in either area?

Also anyone in Jakarta those days want to meet up I am happy to do so.I would not go that far south because a "40" min cab ride will turn in to 1. 5 hrs before you know it.

I have stayed at the grand mercure harmoni but most likely won't be going back, its dated and there are NO power outlets at the bedside.

I usually stay at yello harmoni. You could stay at vertu harmoni if you want a better option.

Haven't been to BATs or CJs since prepandemic and it wasnt great when I went.

I will also be in Jakarta at the end of the month.

Giovanni Volo
09-15-23, 22:10
I would not go that far south because a "40" min cab ride will turn in to 1. 5 hrs before you know it.

I have stayed at the grand mercure harmoni but most likely won't be going back, its dated and there are NO power outlets at the bedside.

I usually stay at yello harmoni. You could stay at vertu harmoni if you want a better option.

Haven't been to BATs or CJs since prepandemic and it wasnt great when I went.

I will also be in Jakarta at the end of the month.Jellow Harmony look great, and it's near to Classic. Didi you go walking? I think about from my next trip, thanks.

I saw it have also a swimming pool.

Outside hotel area is nice?

Dandelionheyz
09-16-23, 09:40
Regarding the hotel, are the hotels in Jakarta girl friendly?

JSmithJ88
09-16-23, 12:16
Jellow Harmony look great, and it's near to Classic. Didi you go walking? I think about from my next trip, thanks.

I saw it have also a swimming pool.

Outside hotel area is nice?No way am I walking, too hot.

A taxi ride is maybe 1 USD from the hotel to classic.

The area is fine, you are basically at the main road.

The hotel is located behind a small mall, theres a starbucks very close as well as a MCD, and malio is across the street.

Granite St8
09-17-23, 14:35
Great report man, would you have both of their IG? I can't find them anywhere.Search dheaven (underscore) gwc and aquarius (dot) massage.

Giovanni Volo
09-17-23, 22:48
No way am I walking, too hot.

A taxi ride is maybe 1 USD from the hotel to classic.

The area is fine, you are basically at the main road.

The hotel is located behind a small mall, theres a starbucks very close as well as a MCD, and malio is across the street.Thanks. I never think to take a taxy for so small ride, I was thinking there is a basic fare. But if not, perfect. Not problem with hot, but Jakarta road are really too bad for walking. Bangkok won in this, but not for girls price.

Do you know if this hotel is girls friendly? Can I take a girl I meet in the room? I used to book a room for 2, came alone, and some times invite girls.

JSmithJ88
09-18-23, 23:33
Thanks. I never think to take a taxy for so small ride, I was thinking there is a basic fare. But if not, perfect. Not problem with hot, but Jakarta road are really too bad for walking. Bangkok won in this, but not for girls price.

Do you know if this hotel is girls friendly? Can I take a girl I meet in the room? I used to book a room for 2, came alone, and some times invite girls.I didn't have any problems bringing girls over to yello, max one or ibis harmoni.

You should download the apps grab and gojek for taxi / food.

I usually order a motorbike vs a car since it is faster, but up to you.

Fenyx
09-20-23, 11:08
I've been living in Cambodia the past two years but I had some time off so I wanted to venture out to a different spot for a few days. Having been to Thailand many times and not wanting to go to the Vietnamese embassy to get a visa, I found a cheap AirAsia flight to Jakarta. Arrived at the airport around 5 pm and must have gotten lucky because there was absolutely no one in line for VoA, Immigration, or Customs. Just breezed right through. They even let me pay for my VoA in USD which was nice because I didn't have any IDR at that point. Picked up a SIM and then ordered a Grab car to my hotel.

For my first night out I decided on Classic. I take a Grab motorbike from the hotel for 5 k IDR. Got there around 630 PM and the club is not yet full. Just a handful of guys scattered around at the tables. Grabbed my own table at back left hand side of the room with a good view of both the stage and girls sitting on the couches. A Mama found me and asked what I wanted, told her slim, and she brought over probably ten young, petite girls. Picked the one I liked, very pretty face and seemingly nice body. 355 k IDR later and we're heading back to the rooms. Unfortunately once we're in the shower I discover the baby damage. The clothing and bras these girls wear and their youth hide these facts until later. Oh well, she is still an objectively pretty girl just with a little sag in her breasts and midsection. She's quite a sweet sensual girl we engage in foreplay, kissing and touching on the bed followed by BBBJ, and lastly CFS. Turns out she was also on her period but I'm not bothered by that. She doesn't have a lot of blood and it is decent lube LOL. Finish, clean up, tip the girl, and then I head back out into the club. I drink two cans of Bintan and enjoy the show of 3 girls in sheer blue tops dancing on the stage. One dancer brings round her tray of shots and tries to hustle me into buying some. Tell here "No" five or six times but she tries to pretend not to understand due to the language barrier. Thankfully the Mama from earlier comes over and tells here to fuck off. I appreciated that. It's about 830 or 9 by this point and the club really starts to fill up, both with other men and cigarette smoke. At this point I'm satisfied so I take Grab back to my hotel. Total spend - 355 k+200 k tip, plus 135 k for the two cans of Bintan = 690 k IDR which is about $45 USD. Decent start to my trip but we'll see how it goes from here. I'm headed to Travel for my next night out.

KeenGerle
09-20-23, 15:32
I haven't heard any talk about it being demolished anytime soon but it for sure will be eventually. But the place get raided once in a whileActually it got raided EVERY night the last times I have been there. Someone walked through the alley (the bars below the tracks) with a flashlight and once they were gone, everything opened with loud music. I am kidding you not. This happened every. Single - night.


Awesome and can confirm that I saw more last night (not as great as before but getting a bit better). Still a surreal experience with running over the dark train tracks, occasionally a train passes by (so everyone is rushing of the tracks) and backing a chick on a dirty mattress while a train passes by.

Only concern are the news of having everything demolished. After seeing what they have done with Kalijodo and the new international stadium.Sadly it happened. Just flew in, went straight from the airport just to find out that it has been entirely demolished. Not half as as they sometimes do. Entirely. There is no way that this will open up again. While I am happy about the funny, seedy memories I have from this place, it's sad to see that it is gone for good. It was pretty much the last seedy place I knew here (some of you know that I love the adventure of seedy places as per my previous post). I don't fancy Classic and such. I love seedy. Like really seedy.

Calling now for the real perv. I mean. KINKY members here: are there any other really seedy places such as the train tracks location, the new stadium. ANY? Would highly appreciate any input. I know that it is a niche but yeah. Thank you.

Cheers,

Keen.

Giovanni Volo
09-20-23, 17:49
Hello,

I have a question to our nice community.

Why everybody write about Classic and Travel and quite noones around Laras Ayu, & New Satiayu Club Karaoke?

I was just five nights in Jakarta, and I saw that place, and Classic and Travel. I think they work all the same. Just classic room was better than the karaoke I staied. Price is similar (Karaoke 400 k, very little more).

I think in Laras Ayu,& New Satiayu Club Karaoke the were a good a mounths and quality of girls.

Someone else were there? What do you think about?

Giovanni Volo
09-20-23, 22:03
I didn't have any problems bringing girls over to yello, max one or ibis harmoni.

You should download the apps grab and gojek for taxi / food.

I usually order a motorbike vs a car since it is faster, but up to you.Yes, I used app Grab (cheaper) and Bluebird (better).

The only thing is that Yellow do not have swimming pool. But last time I was in Yuan Garden Pasar Baru and I never like its swimming pool.

Next time may be I will try Grand G7 Pasar baru, with very good rewiew and swimming pool. Do you know it?

https://www.agoda.com/it-it/grand-g7-pasar-baru/hotel/jakarta-id.html?finalPriceView=2&isShowMobileAppPrice=false&cid=1833981&numberOfBedrooms=&familyMode=false&adults=2&children=0&rooms=1&maxRooms=0&checkIn=2024-01-9&isCalendarCallout=false&childAges=&numberOfGuest=0&missingChildAges=false&travellerType=1&showReviewSubmissionEntry=false&currencyCode=EUR&isFreeOccSearch=false&isCityHaveAsq=false&tspTypes=1, 1,8&LOS=7&searchrequestid=175 e72 fa-361 c-4 fb5-a674-c50 e8 d2 a6 dc4.

KeenGerle
09-21-23, 03:38
Actually it got raided EVERY night the last times I have been there. Someone walked through the alley (the bars below the tracks) with a flashlight and once they were gone, everything opened with loud music. I am kidding you not. This happened every. Single - night.

Sadly it happened. Just flew in, went straight from the airport just to find out that it has been entirely demolished. Not half as as they sometimes do. Entirely. There is no way that this will open up again. While I am happy about the funny, seedy memories I have from this place, it's sad to see that it is gone for good. It was pretty much the last seedy place I knew here (some of you know that I love the adventure of seedy places as per my previous post). I don't fancy Classic and such. I love seedy. Like really seedy.

Calling now for the real perv. I mean. KINKY members here: are there any other really seedy places such as the train tracks location, the new stadium. ANY? Would highly appreciate any input. I know that it is a niche but yeah. Thank you.

Cheers,

Keen.Being so disappointed, I went on an exploration mission. I did what I wanted to do for long time and went on a train to try figure out other train tracks spots. Sorry, I really love fucking next to train tracks. Went 45 min to both directions but couldn't spot anything. That said, when returning at midnight, there is SOME action found there but.

Super limited (if at all, 1% of the action that happened there before). Further, looks they only left the fat, old chicks behind.

Since all buildings are gone, walk on the side path next to JL tol and spot places in the dark. Another alternative: continue walking until the non-seedy life there starts (people who know the area understand what I mean). Once you are in the residential area, get to the train tracks and head back to the bridge. Done all of it but yeah. Wasn't keen as it was way below average for sure.

Anyway. Just letting you know.

NoGermaphobe
09-21-23, 04:25
I was there in August and could tell the place was on its last legs and hadn't recovered from the Ramadan raid. About half the bars were open, volume of ladies were way down. Music was being played at low volume.

Here is a video of it being demolished.

https://youtu.be/jGdW7GRJdpM


Actually it got raided EVERY night the last times I have been there. Someone walked through the alley (the bars below the tracks) with a flashlight and once they were gone, everything opened with loud music. I am kidding you not. This happened every. Single - night.

Sadly it happened. Just flew in, went straight from the airport just to find out that it has been entirely demolished. Not half as as they sometimes do. Entirely. There is no way that this will open up again. While I am happy about the funny, seedy memories I have from this place, it's sad to see that it is gone for good. It was pretty much the last seedy place I knew here (some of you know that I love the adventure of seedy places as per my previous post). I don't fancy Classic and such. I love seedy. Like really seedy.

Calling now for the real perv. I mean. KINKY members here: are there any other really seedy places such as the train tracks location, the new stadium. ANY? Would highly appreciate any input. I know that it is a niche but yeah. Thank you.

Cheers,

Keen.

Offshore Swell
09-21-23, 13:04
Actually it got raided EVERY night the last times I have been there. Someone walked through the alley (the bars below the tracks) with a flashlight and once they were gone, everything opened with loud music. I am kidding you not. This happened every. Single - night.

Sadly it happened. Just flew in, went straight from the airport just to find out that it has been entirely demolished. Not half as as they sometimes do. Entirely. There is no way that this will open up again. While I am happy about the funny, seedy memories I have from this place, it's sad to see that it is gone for good. It was pretty much the last seedy place I knew here (some of you know that I love the adventure of seedy places as per my previous post). I don't fancy Classic and such. I love seedy. Like really seedy.

Calling now for the real perv. I mean. KINKY members here: are there any other really seedy places such as the train tracks location, the new stadium. ANY? Would highly appreciate any input. I know that it is a niche but yeah. Thank you.

Cheers,

Keen.Take the train to Tanjung Priok station, get an ojek to take you Cilincing and Jalan Inspeksi Cakung drain. Follow this track South until you have a cemetery on your right. Jutting into the cemetery is Rawa Malang. You can fornicate away amongst the cumulative layers of Jakarta's dead. Remember! If it's got ducks, It's the real thing.

This area is dirt poor. For context look at the following photo essay in the Jakarta post https://www.thejakartapost.com/longform/2023/09/08/living-hope-of-children-on-jakartas-coastline.html.

Hope that helps.

Banana Boi
09-21-23, 14:31
Why everybody write about Classic and Travel and quite noones around Laras Ayu, & New Satiayu Club Karaoke?Are you talking about New Sariayu Club? If so we talk about it a lot but we just refer to it as Kota Indah (KI) since there are many bars in the same Komplek. Classic and Travel are standalone so we name it by name. Not sure where Laras Ayu is. Can you let us know where it's located.

Giovanni Volo
09-21-23, 18:15
Are you talking about New Sariayu Club? If so we talk about it a lot but we just refer to it as Kota Indah (KI) since there are many bars in the same Komplek. Classic and Travel are standalone so we name it by name. Not sure where Laras Ayu is. Can you let us know where it's located.Yes, it's full of bar in that way. Yes, I would write about New Sariayu Club.

Thanks to let's me know.

I just went one time in this area. I also do not remember in what bar I chose my lady. It may be I back next time to Jakarta.

Do you think is better or worster than Classic?

Giovanni Volo
09-21-23, 18:29
Classic Hotel report: I am permanently damaged and my emotional health is ruined. First time in Jakarta, I went to Classic 3 consecutive nights. I also visited Indah Kota one night, but it was forgettable by comparison. Originally intended to visit Classic one night, Keplah Gading another, and then go to Mr Braid on the 3rd, but things turned out different.

I arrived at classic at about 1800 on Saturday night, courtesy of a.
...

Smoking- if you can tolerate it, you'll be OK. If you can't, don't go to Indonesia full stop. It must be the least 'smokefree' country in the world. Even the hotel lobby smelt vaguely like smoke. Or maybe that was my clothes after being in classic.Hello,

I would ask if you been to ground floor of Classic, where there is a disco.

I was three time, but just at first floor. All exceptional experience. But it may be next time I'll go also to the ground floor, if is the same. It may be loudly music?

Giovanni Volo
09-21-23, 18:39
That tiny minimum fee is just to keep out the freeloaders. Honestly, I wish they would raise it to 200 k.Just for curiosity: do you know if minumun fee included just drink or girl too?

But it is really very little. In three time I never had problem with it. Just I do not know why sometimes at the exit they keep my receipt, and other no. Not a problem, I don't need receipt.

Tryntry
09-21-23, 18:43
Are you talking about New Sariayu Club? If so we talk about it a lot but we just refer to it as Kota Indah (KI) since there are many bars in the same Komplek. Classic and Travel are standalone so we name it by name. Not sure where Laras Ayu is. Can you let us know where it's located.They are in the same horseshoe alleys that Starmoon and Royal are at, they have renamed / refaced some of the bars.

Muzungufotsy
09-22-23, 06:33
Take the train to Tanjung Priok station, get an ojek to take you Cilincing and Jalan Inspeksi Cakung drain. Follow this track South until you have a cemetery on your right. Jutting into the cemetery is Rawa Malang. You can fornicate away amongst the cumulative layers of Jakarta's dead. Remember! If it's got ducks, It's the real thing.

This area is dirt poor. For context look at the following photo essay in the Jakarta post https://www.thejakartapost.com/longform/2023/09/08/living-hope-of-children-on-jakartas-coastline.html.

Hope that helps.https://youtu.be/lH7VroBJgds?si=EBxC-XOtxuJLO_XP

Seems closed too.

RipVanTinkle
09-23-23, 05:33
Gents,

Arriving in Jakarta tomorrow for a week. I am not a fan of going to clubs or brothel kind of places. Looking for reliable services that can provide me with options in my hotel (upscale 5 star).

I had tried Smooci in Thailand and it was very smooth. Is that the case in Jakarta as well? Or should I look at Massage Republic? Or any other website?

Irish Mongrel
09-24-23, 06:07
Gents,

Arriving in Jakarta tomorrow for a week. I am not a fan of going to clubs or brothel kind of places. Looking for reliable services that can provide me with options in my hotel (upscale 5 star).

I had tried Smooci in Thailand and it was very smooth. Is that the case in Jakarta as well? Or should I look at Massage Republic? Or any other website?Be interested to see how you go with Smoochi, if you use it. I was going to book Freja for a 3 some with my local long term freebie, who was well into that sort of thing. But then my freebie became an ex- after too many games, so I just went out and got rather drink with some friends, so that canceled any chance of fun at my age. Had great success with Smoochi in Phuket for the same thing.

Keen Eye Joe 1
09-25-23, 04:06
I live in the Philippines and have little difficulty finding paid companionship with age 20-somethings who are reasonably attractive. But at my somewhat advanced age, my motor doesn't run as hot as before and I need a bit of stimulation (without pills). My preferred game plan is to visit freelancer bars and survey the action. I search for a target (or she zeroes on me), offer to buy her a drink or two or three, and see where the night takes us. I'm an attention-seeker who gets off on fun and chatty women who appear to find me handsome, get flirty, whisper naughty stuff in my ear, and let their fingers do the walking. If there's chemistry and interest and my libido is sufficiently stimulated, we negotiate a deal and head for my hotel room. Money is no object and I prefer an older horny gal to a younger disinterested starfish.

I recently visited Jakarta for the first time in four years. For the record, I'm a 60-something year old decent-looking northern European-looking guy who has visited twice previously and am quite familiar with most of the haunts. There are plenty of venues around town to find appealing partners for a relatively small amount of money, but have discovered very few places that offer an atmosphere of no-holds-barred fun.

In the past the bars on Jalan Falatahan 1 (Bule Street) have provided me with plenty of memorable entertainment. But natural attrition plus the ravages of COVID have reduced this one-time party street into a shell of its former self.

Don't believe what Google Maps has posted about the number of Falatahan drinking spots. In reality there are only two western-style bars in business: My Bar and An's Place. An's has the ambiance of a fairly upscale strip club, with a polished interior and a pole dancing stage in the center. The furnishings are definitely an upgrade over the pre-COVID dance bar in this place. I only visited one night, at around 10 pm. A single foreigner customer was surrounded at a table by about eight scantily-clad women and the wait staff, sucking down the inflated-priced ladies' drinks. I salute the guy for cornering the market and hope he had a heck of a good time. I'm sure the bar is a great place to visit, but it didn't meet my raunchiness requirement.

So I spent most of my nights next door at My Bar. The environment was the same as it was four years ago, but unfortunately the party really doesn't get going until after midnight, except on the weekends. Luckily, this time I booked a room at the Sotis Faletahan Hotel, which was clean, comfortable, convenient, and reasonably priced at $30 USA / night, including taxes. It's a stone's throw away from the Blok M TransJakarta bus terminus and about a 10 minute walk to the modern Blok M Plaza shopping mall and subway station, so it was easy to travel around and play the role of a tourist. I thoroughly enjoyed my stay there and wouldn't hesitate to book again in the future.

My first full night saw me arriving at My Bar at around 10:30 pm on a Monday. Horrible time to visit, as there was only one other customer and a few female piranhas waiting to bite. After a few minutes of soaking up the ambiance, an older lady came by to chat. I'd guess she was in her early 40's with a moderately attractive face in the darkened bar light and a reasonably acceptable body under her modest mid-thigh dress with mid-height sandal heels. We sat and chatted for an hour and I was impressed with her decent English skills. With each passing sip of beer (San Miguel Light at 71,000 Rupiah), she moved her chair and body closer to mine, cuddled in close, and reached for my right hand and placed it high on her thigh. After beer #2, she decided to stick her tongue down my throat and explore my tonsils. Midway through beer #3, she started rubbing my cock through my pants. Soon after, we negotiated a deal, drained our bottles, then took her to the hotel to drain my reservoir.

OMG, she did not disappoint, as we spent an hour engaged in porno-style activities. We showered together and she decided I needed a three minute BJ under the cascading water. Then we hit the sheets for more spirited kissing, followed by a deep-throated BJ complete with spit and throat gagging. On came the condom (my choice) for 20 minutes of pounding in at least five different positions as she did her best to muffle the noise. Upon finishing, we headed back to the shower for clean-up, then laid in bed and chatted. Round #2 came about 20 minutes later and I was able to explode a second time, which happens rarely at my advanced age.

She was mentally prepared to spend the night with me, but once I'm done, I'm done. So I offered to bid her adieu, which caught her by surprise. As we traveled from the room to the lobby, I promised I'd come by and see her again.

Tuesday was a recovery day, so I waved off the My Bar jackals and just took in the sights and suds for a couple of hours. Wednesday night caught me with a perky pecker, so I stopped by at 11:30 pm and ended up sitting with my previous conquest. One night of carnal bliss had turned us into familiar friends, so she was even more brazen than before. The deep kissing in the bar started almost immediately and after beer #1, she reached under my cargo shorts and started jacking me off. I responded by running my hand up her dress and discovered she wasn't wearing any panties. She responded by twisting her stool to face mine and took my hand and placed it on her pussy. So in the middle of around 25 people while sitting at the bar, we were engaged in deep throat kissing and I was getting jerked off while fingerbanging her wet snatch. As far as I could tell, there were no disapproving glances and the bartenders and waitresses didn't motion us to stop.

I usually don't do sexual repeats, but she got my motor running at 6,000 rpm and I didn't want to stop until passing the finish line. The play by play back at the room was similar to the previous night's encounter, and I capitulated after round #2.

Keen Eye Joe 1
09-25-23, 05:50
As expected, My Bar on the weekend after 11 pm was packed with both male / female customers and a fair number of apparent doable freelancers, with very few vacant seats. There's a sign inside that advertises sexy dancers on Friday and Saturday nights. Unfortunately there were no performers on Friday, but Saturday found four spinners dressed in sexy French maid outfits gyrating on the stage and on the counters for short performances, staying fully clothed. All were fairly cute, but one caught my eye and grabbed my libido from afar.

Her name is Ella, who was looking super sexy wearing silver fishnet stockings and high silver stripper shoes. Her sultry outfit, long hair, dark skin, beautiful set of teeth, pretty face, tiny body, and an ever present smile was more than enough to reel me in. During one of their long intermissions she was standing with the bar entourage, so I walked over and complimented her on the performance and handed her a Rp 50,000 bill.

Of course she's smart enough to appreciate the scent of an open wallet, so she soon came to my seat at the bar and we chatted for a few minutes. I offered to buy her a drink and she picked some weird looking flavored concoction. We seemed to hit it off pretty well, and before returning to the stage she asked if I wanted to take her home later.

Her price was Rp 1 million, which was certainly acceptable. The problem was the dancers would not be released from duty until after 5 am. The current time was around 2 am, and I'm sorry but there's no woman in the world enticing enough to keep me waiting until near sunrise. So I unfortunately declined, but said she hoped I would change my mind later.

Sunday night I returned to the bar, and it had returned to its normal mostly-empty self. I had planned on sitting this night out and just relaxing, but during beer #2 my gal Ella entered as a civilian. She rushed over as soon as she spotted me, and there was no way I was going to let her get away again. We downed a couple of beers and played a few rounds of pool as we chatted. She has a nice personality and was a lot of fun to hang out with. As the beer began to lower my resistance, I asked if she wanted to come to my room. She readily agreed, and we traipsed the 50 meter walk to the hotel while walking with our arms around each other like old lovers.

She provided the perfect GF experience. She's as cute as a button, sweet as honey, kissed like a committed girl friend, and rode me like a cowgirl. Definitely the kind of gal you'd consider packing inside your luggage to take home.

On Monday I spent some time walking around the nearby Blok M Square mall, a somewhat dilapidated multi-leveled building containing hundreds of kiosks selling all kinds of crap.

There are plenty of small massage shops on the upper floors, and several of the therapists were waving me over. On the top floor there was a particularly eager gal around 30 years old, who was easy on the eyes. The price at her shop was Rp 100,000, or around $7 USA I haven't had one in a couple of years, so I decided to partake.

I've had several massages in the Philippines, and all of them have been tame. But I was unprepared for today's rubdown to turn naughty.

There were three cubicle areas, separated by draped sheets. As I laid on the bed, I could hear the hand slapping and slight moaning of the guy next to me getting his legitimate massage. I felt a bit uncomfortable being within earshot of this customer, but I was already locked in.

My gal spent about 10 minutes massaging my legs as I laid on my stomach. But out of the blue, her hands started running higher and higher up my thigh. All of a sudden, she reached out and started milking the area between my bung hole and testicles. I've lived for over six decades and no woman has ever touched me in such a way before. Immediately my little friend stiffened up and I was the proud owner of a raging hard-on.

While straddling my legs, she leaned over and whispered in my ear, "we make love, fuck fuck". I asked for the price and she held up five fingers. Yeah, I overpaid but I wasn't going to let this memorable moment escape me.

After nodding my head yes, she slid off her panties and fumbled for a condom. She got on her back, spread her legs, and put her index finger against her lips to motion that we needed to be quiet.

So there I was, doinking this gal while laying a mere 2 to 3 feet away from my neighbor's head. I was able to thrust without any mattress noise, but she wrapped one of her hands behind my head to keep my head from moving and mouth from moaning as she was vigorously kissing me. This was my first time engaging in near-voyeuristic sex and the titillation definitely added to the excitement.

Finally after a few minutes I exploded, and suddenly we were done. I gave her the 500,000 and she didn't ask me for extra for the massage, so the effective price of the extra service was 400,000. I'd gladly pay it again to feel the tactile caress of a gentle hand rubbing my glans from behind.

To sum it up, I had another great visit in Jakarta. I have another trip scheduled during the Christmas holiday, but I've already made a reservation to stay in the Sarinah area and hit some new spots. My liver needs time to dry out after this trip.

Betong
09-25-23, 12:22
To sum it up, I had another great visit in Jakarta.Seriously good reports, thanks!

Nuttin Serious
09-26-23, 05:32
Seriously good reports, thanks!Seconded!!

Nuttin Serious
09-26-23, 05:37
Hello,

I would ask if you been to ground floor of Classic, where there is a disco.

I was three time, but just at first floor. All exceptional experience. But it may be next time I'll go also to the ground floor, if is the same. It may be loudly music?Ciao! Yes, I visit the ground floor 'bunker' once, I mention it in my report. Mix of live band / guests singing karaoke. Mamasans not pushy at all. Plenty of girls, but I think less quality girls than upstairs.

Also I mention New Sariyu akd Starmoon bar in same report. Worth a look but again, I think classic upstairs again better with greater numbers of the nicer girls to choose from.

Duolingy
09-27-23, 19:41
Just came back from Jakarta & Bali after spending a month and man oh man, the quality of freelancers available on tinder in Bali and reasonable price (500 k to 700 k) they charge as compare to other countries, I am seriously amazed.

And the gems I found in Classic hotel at just 365 k, wow!

I know its off topic but does anyone know any other country where they have such clean rooms with the quality of girls with similar set up as Classic / Travel hotel please?

Explorer8939
09-28-23, 03:24
Just came back from Jakarta & Bali after spending a month and man oh man, the quality of freelancers available on tinder in Bali and reasonable price (500 k to 700 k) they charge as compare to other countries, I am seriously amazed.

And the gems I found in Classic hotel at just 365 k, wow!

I know its off topic but does anyone know any other country where they have such clean rooms with the quality of girls with similar set up as Classic / Travel hotel please?Why are there such few reports by posters who stay at Classic hotel? I read a lot of reports about people wondering how far it is from their hotel to Classic hotel, why not just stay at Classic?

Duolingy
09-28-23, 04:59
Why are there such few reports by posters who stay at Classic hotel? I read a lot of reports about people wondering how far it is from their hotel to Classic hotel, why not just stay at Classic?I stayed in classic for 4 days, found reasonable price on agoda. Used to pop in at around 6 to 7 pm on the second floor from my room to find quality meat and then again around 1 am to 2 am. Jonisteak is like 3 minutes walk away and used to love their steak after being with a girl.

In my opinion, there is all different kind of meat for all type of taste, just make sure you go there on weekdays to find quality meat. There's random crowd on weekends on second floor which quality meat try to avoid as per my observation so try to be there between 6 to 7 pm, and threesome at 500 k ($33) for 90 mins with the quality of stuff there is bonkers.

Roy2920
09-28-23, 11:29
Why are there such few reports by posters who stay at Classic hotel? I read a lot of reports about people wondering how far it is from their hotel to Classic hotel, why not just stay at Classic?Did that once. The room is lousy. Mattress is hard and room is smelly. There is better value hotel out there.

World Jockey
09-28-23, 12:47
I know its off topic but does anyone know any other country where they have such clean rooms with the quality of girls with similar set up as Classic / Travel hotel please?I was just thinking about classic / travel yesterday. Its been years since I have been. I would say German FKK or Brazilian Termas.

Giovanni Volo
09-28-23, 16:11
I stayed in classic for 4 days, found reasonable price on agoda. Used to pop in at around 6 to 7 pm on the second floor from my room to find quality meat and then again around 1 am to 2 am. Jonisteak is like 3 minutes walk away and used to love their steak after being with a girl.

In my opinion, there is all different kind of meat for all type of taste, just make sure you go there on weekdays to find quality meat. There's random crowd on weekends on second floor which quality meat try to avoid as per my observation so try to be there between 6 to 7 pm, and threesome at 500 k ($33) for 90 mins with the quality of stuff there is bonkers.Threesome for 90 minutes?

So 1 girl is 60 minutes (365 k), but if you (for 500 k) take 2 is 90 minutes?

Gern
09-28-23, 16:12
And Third (ed)! I live in Jakarta and I am excited to go back to these places that I rarely visit!


Seconded!!

Giovanni Volo
09-28-23, 16:12
I was just thinking about classic / travel yesterday. Its been years since I have been. I would say German FKK or Brazilian Termas.But I think Germany FKK price would be really different from Classic and time shorter. Am I wrong?

Pouet017
09-29-23, 07:31
Arrived yestesday evening, I was used to go to Koda Intu last year. As my hotel was pretty close to Classic (< 10 min by foot) I decided to take a look at the 2nd floor to take a beer.

Good point: they give you bracelet with a number and everything you buy (except the ladies) for you or for the ladies (drinks, cigarettes, lighter.) can be payed at the cashier by card; I'm fed of carrying a pack of notes just for one evening, and fill up my pocket again with an ATM.

For ladies, it is 365 K for a session. I found a lovely girl, blond hair colored; once naked her body was not as I expected from the outside, np she was very sweet and GFE.

After the session I go back for a drink, there was a live music session with world music then a DJ. Some girls were dancing on stage with see-through lace / wears (don't know how to call the wears in english.) and seems to be bored except one.

Got another session with a very slim / not old girl, she said she was 24 years but she looks not old. Nice "one piece" tatoo on the thigh but on bed she was a little bit boring.

End with another beer and go to sleep, I was too jetlagged. Today I have a Tinder date.

JSmithJ88
09-29-23, 09:51
But I think Germany FKK price would be really different from Classic and time shorter. Am I wrong?Did you arrive in Jakarta yet?

Dog7979
09-29-23, 12:33
Pre-Covid, there were a few little street kiosks across the street (and a little to the left) of Hotel Classic that sold the little blue pill. I dropped by yesterday at like 8:30 p and they were gone. I took a walk down towards Emporium and nothing over there either.

Does anybody have any post-Covid sources for viagra in Jakarta?

Buscar
09-30-23, 02:51
Probably any pharmacy but certainly independent ones.

Just type Sildenafil on your phone and show it to the pharmacist.

Same as everywhere else in SEA and most of the world.


Pre-Covid, there were a few little street kiosks across the street (and a little to the left) of Hotel Classic that sold the little blue pill. I dropped by yesterday at like 8:30 p and they were gone. I took a walk down towards Emporium and nothing over there either.

Does anybody have any post-Covid sources for viagra in Jakarta?

Roy2920
09-30-23, 03:35
I was just thinking about classic / travel yesterday. Its been years since I have been. I would say German FKK or Brazilian Termas.Classic / travel / Malio is unique IMO with its live band and fish bowl set up. Their live band was good and I enjoyed the vibe there while ogling the eye candy. In some SEA countries, they do have such bar but with freelance and tad more expensive. German FKK is just DJs spinning music but I think their atmosphere is more like a hedonistic paradise where naked pretty girls are everywhere mingling and f*xking with the crowd.

World Jockey
09-30-23, 04:28
LOL I must have missed the fishbowl when I went. Yeah they are not exactly the same.

Guys also has their clothes on in the general area at classic.


Classic / travel / Malio is unique IMO with its live band and fish bowl set up. Their live band was good and I enjoyed the vibe there while ogling the eye candy. In some SEA countries, they do have such bar but with freelance and tad more expensive. German FKK is just DJs spinning music but I think their atmosphere is more like a hedonistic paradise where naked pretty girls are everywhere mingling and f*xking with the crowd.

MaxiF
09-30-23, 15:43
Good evening at all. I will be in Jakarta next week for the first time and will stay near the Mall of Indonesia. I am looking for the possibility to get an Escort into my room but have problems to find good advices. I am usually not a fan of the Spas and try to avoid them. Does anyone has a good proposal for someone new in the city?

Best Regards.

Giovanni Volo
09-30-23, 20:45
Pre-Covid, there were a few little street kiosks across the street (and a little to the left) of Hotel Classic that sold the little blue pill. I dropped by yesterday at like 8:30 p and they were gone. I took a walk down towards Emporium and nothing over there either.

Does anybody have any post-Covid sources for viagra in Jakarta?Hi. I remember that place just out of Classic, going in the right side. It was Augost 2023.

But I strongly suggested to go in a pharmacy for pills. Is medicine, and strong ones. Better, at least, would be the right one.

SmLv99
09-30-23, 22:31
Good evening at all. I will be in Jakarta next week for the first time and will stay near the Mall of Indonesia. I am looking for the possibility to get an Escort into my room but have problems to find good advices. I am usually not a fan of the Spas and try to avoid them. Does anyone has a good proposal for someone new in the city?

Best Regards.I used tinder and had a girl in my room an hour later. They almost all use WhatsApp to communicate once connecting on tinder. Most of the girls offering massage will offer extras.

Irish Mongrel
10-01-23, 05:43
Does anybody have any post-Covid sources for viagra in Jakarta?Just do a google search for Apotek and pick the closest one to your hotel. These are little independent pharmacies and will sell it to you. Download a picture to your phone to get past any language barriers. I have managed to get from the big chain pharmacies as well, but have also been knocked back from the same.

Irish Mongrel
10-01-23, 05:45
Does anyone has a good proposal for someone new in the city?.Read thru the last 20 or 30 pages of this BB and you will get all the information you need.

ThatsMe030
10-01-23, 13:18
Hi, for me its my first time in Jakarta and I like the (hopefully) uncomplicated idea of the classic hotel / spa / brothel whatever.

I tried to read the posts before, but I'm still not getting the whole picture.

Does it makes sence to book a room there? Is it possible to order the girls to my own room without sitting in the club areas?

Because maybe its a bit too much for me all, at my first time doing something like that.

The best case for me would be something like, I order a girl to my room, have a session for arround 300-400 k IDR and then its over and she goes Maybe another time more but first to try it a bit.

I'm kind of new here, mostly I read here but I will try do chare my experiences after then.

ShagTownBoi69
10-02-23, 04:44
Does any Jakarta OGs know much about the bars along Raya Cilincing? I know it looks super dodgy at night, but that's how I like it.

It looks like a street with 10+ bars such as New Dinasty, New Ale Ale, Dream Bar, Atlantik. From the moto Vlogs on youtube, New Dinasty has about 20+ girls sitting on the outside.

Does anyone know how much is it and how to play here? I've scoured all the english and indo forums and nothing comes up.

Roy2920
10-02-23, 16:37
Good evening at all. I will be in Jakarta next week for the first time and will stay near the Mall of Indonesia. I am looking for the possibility to get an Escort into my room but have problems to find good advices. I am usually not a fan of the Spas and try to avoid them. Does anyone has a good proposal for someone new in the city?

Best Regards.1. Go to twitter and search for 'bojakarta' or 'panggilanjakarta' ,or 2. Install wechat, or tinder and use the nearby search, or 3. Go massagerepublic or smooci.

MaxiF
10-02-23, 18:45
1. Go to twitter and search for 'bojakarta' or 'panggilanjakarta' ,or 2. Install wechat, or tinder and use the nearby search, or 3. Go massagerepublic or smooci.Hi,

Thanks a lot for the ideas. I will try it.

GentileBear
10-03-23, 02:19
Blah Blah Blah, I RTFF (read the fucking forums) backwards and forwards and came to this itinerary for my first post Covid Jakarta trip:

Overall. Go with the Flow. Seems the scene is very spread out but the same places are mentioned over and over. And me? I never even made it to any clubs like Classic in 2019 - I exclusively used Tinder / TanTan. But fast forward to late 2023 and I am wanting more of a 'point and shoot' experience. Especially first when I land:

Here it is:

-Classic (must see, home-base, soo many posts about very thin ladies).

-Travel.

-Kings Cross.

-Star Moon and *Kota Indah * (Jayakarta) the horseshoe bars. Will go afternoon first to get a feel for the area. Then go back at night

-Tinder Gold while in hotel.

-WeChat while in hotel.

Have decided to Ditch buying a SIM card (last trip Grapari or whatever was a long process and now it seems even more work. Will stick with wifi / skype / messenger / whatsapp).

Staying Harmoni Hotel.

No CJ's, BATS or Malio aka Malioboro (too expensive for my current budget).

Will tip taxi drivers to Lurk and Explore why not? "Take me to Clubs where girls give massage" - no I will not insult a religious driver. Will "test" diferent drivers. With the cost of taxi being so low and so many posts about ". I forgot where it is but this small club had amazing talent of girls. " Seems things change a lot. So I will blow a few $$ on Taxi drivers for current intel.

Zanny's Maps. Saved and Printed Out -.

* - Seems there are a few posters who claim this area is prone to raids? I did read where Golden Crown was shut. KI seems shrouded in mystery and many posters seem to ask the same questions' when I RTFF.

Grab / Blue Bird / mangga besar area for Cialis /.

I'll be there in a few weeks. Any comments or suggestions are helpful.

Explorer8939
10-03-23, 03:28
-Classic (must see, home-base, soo many posts about very thin ladies).

-Travel.

-Kings Cross.

-Star Moon and *Kota Indah * (Jayakarta) the horseshoe bars. Will go afternoon first to get a feel for the area. Then go back at night

-Tinder Gold while in hotel.

-WeChat while in hotel.

Have decided to Ditch buying a SIM card (last trip Grapari or whatever was a long process and now it seems even more work. Will stick with wifi / skype / messenger / whatsapp).

Staying Harmoni Hotel.

No CJ's, BATS or Malio aka Malioboro (too expensive for my current budget).

Will tip taxi drivers to Lurk and Explore why not? "Take me to Clubs where girls give massage" - no I will not insult a religious driver. Will "test" diferent drivers. With the cost of taxi being so low and so many posts about ". I forgot where it is but this small club had amazing talent of girls. " Seems things change a lot. So I will blow a few $$ on Taxi drivers for current intel.

Zanny's Maps. Saved and Printed Out -.

* - Seems there are a few posters who claim this area is prone to raids? I did read where Golden Crown was shut. KI seems shrouded in mystery and many posters seem to ask the same questions' when I RTFF.

Grab / Blue Bird / mangga besar area for Cialis /.

I'll be there in a few weeks. Any comments or suggestions are helpful.That's the Grand Mercure Harmony hotel?

Is it walkable from Classic?

Offshore Swell
10-03-23, 13:02
Blah Blah Blah, I RTFF (read the fucking forums) backwards and forwards and came to this itinerary for my first post Covid Jakarta trip:

Overall. Go with the Flow. Seems the scene is very spread out but the same places are mentioned over and over. And me? I never even made it to any clubs like Classic in 2019 - I exclusively used Tinder / TanTan. But fast forward to late 2023 and I am wanting more of a 'point and shoot' experience. Especially first when I land:

Here it is:

-Classic (must see, home-base, soo many posts about very thin ladies).

-Travel.

-Kings Cross.

-Star Moon and *Kota Indah * (Jayakarta) the horseshoe bars. Will go afternoon first to get a feel for the area. Then go back at night

-Tinder Gold while in hotel.

-WeChat while in hotel.

Have decided to Ditch buying a SIM card (last trip Grapari or whatever was a long process and now it seems even more work. Will stick with wifi / skype / messenger / whatsapp).

Staying Harmoni Hotel.

No CJ's, BATS or Malio aka Malioboro (too expensive for my current budget).

Will tip taxi drivers to Lurk and Explore why not? "Take me to Clubs where girls give massage" - no I will not insult a religious driver. Will "test" diferent drivers. With the cost of taxi being so low and so many posts about ". I forgot where it is but this small club had amazing talent of girls. " Seems things change a lot. So I will blow a few $$ on Taxi drivers for current intel.

Zanny's Maps. Saved and Printed Out -.

* - Seems there are a few posters who claim this area is prone to raids? I did read where Golden Crown was shut. KI seems shrouded in mystery and many posters seem to ask the same questions' when I RTFF.

Grab / Blue Bird / mangga besar area for Cialis /.

I'll be there in a few weeks. Any comments or suggestions are helpful.There seems to be a trend in these modern times for forum members to be discussing themselves an awful lot. And then even more asking questions.

We are all really excited you are coming to Jakarta. The description of where you will be at each moment of each day makes for fascinating reading and full points for RTFF.

Possibly the travel plans and announcements forum might be a more appropriate spot for your itinerary.

How about some trip reports, stories of girls, tell us about the pimples on her bum, how the monster that showed up at the door was not what you ordered, How she told you your schlong was gigantic and how you secretly splooged all over her face. That's the stuff that makes the forum thrive. Not all this blah blah blah, I'm going to Classic but I can't decide whether to push the second or the fifth floor button. Or the last thousand pages of the forum confirm that every hotel in Jakarta is girl friendly but could I ask just one more time if Jakarta hotels are girl friendly. Please somebody help me?

The risk is that if nothing interesting gets posted then those who post interesting stuff just zone out and it just becomes this blurb fest. Theres some smart posters out there but we are fast losing them.

Your post is actually OK but probably a little misguided in the precision that you think your holiday might unfold. But embrace it. Then tell us some stories about what went wrong, it makes for way more interesting reading than most of the drivel that is turning up here lately.

Offshore Swell
10-03-23, 13:07
Does any Jakarta OGs know much about the bars along Raya Cilincing? I know it looks super dodgy at night, but that's how I like it.

It looks like a street with 10+ bars such as New Dinasty, New Ale Ale, Dream Bar, Atlantik. From the moto Vlogs on youtube, New Dinasty has about 20+ girls sitting on the outside.

Does anyone know how much is it and how to play here? I've scoured all the english and indo forums and nothing comes up.You go in, buy beer, organise one of the girls to come and have a beer with you. Negotiate a trip to one of the nearby short term hotels is my understanding and exe.

Send me a PM, this is a spot OS has been meaning to go try for a long time and would be happy to team up if you are local, at worst you would have a good fun night bar hopping, building up your cumulative knowledge of how the place works with each bar. By the end you would be a veteran.

Hung Man 1808
10-03-23, 15:38
I'll try not to talk about myself (it's a boring topic anyway OS) and stick to some info updates, with a bit of focus on the pre and post covid world of Jakarta. Done a few visits post covid, another coming up.

A definite change has occurred in attitude and access after covid. One notable point was the loss of past long term reliable providers to marriages in order to survive during the pandemic. One major PITA but also majorly enjoyable contact got married and is now kampung forever hope that hubby enjoys doggie, it's a fantastic sight. Another married off but returned partially due to funding requirements but apparently it's too hard to find customers now. Also noteworthy is these providers were all tinder based, and focused on bule. Locals ignored. Locals also won't pay the rate either. Also 'managed' by a handler who did the tinder profiles etc, but that's another story.

Speaking of the socials, that's still a decent source, but way more work and luck required if you are older and seeking younger. Pre-covid it was the literal don't even fire the gun the fish will jump out of the barrel. Now I can't recall a meet up response below 25 (I'm not near 25 BTW) in the last few years. Good responses received and met but more trawling required. So if you want young, dumb and full of your cum, it's off to the 'hotels'.

That means Classic, Travel etc etc. For various reasons, my point of reference pre-covid was FM7 near Central Park next to the tollway to the airport. Much fun has been had there cheaply with young girls mostly willing to do things I requested (extra trip does help. Not breaking the bank tips either). That isn't convenient anymore (I'm not sure it is even open, hard to tell), and so for the first time in maybe 10 years I hit up Classic earlier this year.

What I found in Classic was:

Mamasans are quite possibly the shiftiest, nastiest pieces of work in existence. Used car salesmen (it's always men eh?) appear saintly in comparison. No that girl not available (cause it's not one of mine), tip me to talk to you, offence when you turn down the worst girl in the place they foist on you, and one other trick that has been mentioned but not detected as a trick here: pay Mami cash, don't put the girl on your bracelet number. No, don't do that, cause if you keep doing it and never put a girl on your number, you're up for the 350 k or so entry charge for not indulging when you go to settle. Pretty sure Mami avoids losing a small cut to the bar too. I insisted to put it on the number, they whined and lied saying cannot, but it ended up on there so I paid at the counter on the way out for all girls. And paid just for the room sessions as a result.

The girls are as good as you are going to find anywhere, if you are looking for cute, pretty, teenage or early 20's sexy girls. Out of three girls (one taken twice too) all had no babies, had great bodies, were persuadable (that's never going on there babe, can we come to an arrangement more tip? Literally hehe) and no starfish. The repeat had the most incredible breasts I think I have seen (and thanks to Indonesia, I've seen heaps). For 350 k plus tip of 200 k to 350 k (told you they could be persuaded) you're not going to find a better combo consistently. No I can't remember their names (pretty sure the repeat had a different name too on second go). Ok I recall one name, because I have her whatsapp, which basically presents opportunities for her to plead for money for everything. Will see if it also can result in a hotel visit pre her shift soon, or a request to just drop by Classic.

Travel likely also ok (also a decade or so when I last visited, but I did regular visits 15-20 years ago which moved from super fun to annoying) as well as places along / near Mangga Besar. Much fun has been had here, but most of it was a long time ago. Today Country (RIP) you are sorely missed, but never, ever, ever forgotten.

Apart from a brief mention of the impact of Onlyfans / send video for fee impact, which took a really fun reliable sexy girl pre-covid to a scamming / whining 'send me taxi money to get to you and then never show' kinda girl (and she's not alone in that 'progression') we're onto the no. 1 place bules meet ceweks: CJs and BATS.

I've been attending these places for two decades now. So have a lot of the 'girls' who can be found there these days. There are some attractive ones, but they are few and far between, and in their 30's. I have met one in her 20's there pre-covid, who has moved from not cheap but really worthwhile for staying over, to more expensive but now short time if she can be prised from the Asian clientele who tend to dominate CJs these days. 3. 5 juta seems to be the rate (these girls make cartels seem amateurish) and that's short time which I found out taking a pretty mid 30's girl who pointed it out post negotiation (when I'm thinking long time). 2 juta also possible for the occasional visitor, and 1. 5 juta from BATS when I said I wasn't actually looking for someone but she thought I was fun. Gave me something to do in the morning anyway boom boom!

BATS incidentally is more bule, more ibu ibu too unfortunately. For those who haven't heard of Google Translate, ibu is typically on the high side of MILF, approaching GILF.

Compare 3. 5 juta (ok, 3,500 k) short time in your hotel (plus drinks and oh boy do you know about the drink prices at CJs) for a mid 30's attractive MILF, vs 700 k for ST room plus high end tip for a teenage girl with a body and face that isn't out of place in the model (or porn) world over at classic (or FM7, or Travel).

Finally blok M. Apart from My Bar at 3 am, don't bother. Last resort even then. Same girls pretty much as EP. If you score one at EP, you'll end up at My Bar anyway. EP = Eastern Promise. Lots of promise, not much delivery.

And pricing. Based on hazy memory, I tried lining up what I used to pay 15 years ago vs what I pay now, accounting for FX and inflation. The quick adjusted result is: classic, travel etc have become cheaper, CJs / Bats / freelancers have become rather expensive.

Speaking of price: apart from tips at Classic, all payments to girls were electronic. Straight from Wise to their bank (BCA typically). Helps in gaining real names / numbers / emails etc. You're also exposed, but I don't care. You may. Finding ATMs and pulling out stupid amounts of cash has got old.

There's more but I think that's enough for now!

GentileBear
10-03-23, 16:35
That's the Grand Mercure Harmony hotel?

Is it walkable from Classic?Ibis Jakarta Harmoni & Spa, apparently a 15 min walk to Classic or very short Grab / Taxi ride. Has a McDonalds immediately next to it that makes it a good "see you at McDonalds in 2 minutes. " for Online dates.

Member #3088
10-04-23, 09:39
And getting pretty long in the tooth, but based upon multiple reports on Classic, decided to give it a try.

Two girls for 500 K for 90 minutes. 19 and 20 years old, good natured and cooperative, both from Bogor, slender and pretty. Really a remarkable deal.

Mamasans are a pain. I brushed them off politely and had brief conversations with candidates directly; since I was interested in two girls, I wanted to be sure that they.

Could work together. They could, and did. I arrived at 5 pm -- the place was packed with girls and wasn't yet too noisy. By the time I left -- 630 pm or so -- the place had more customers, more smoke, and more noise. Not my style. Just sex, please.

But in the end there's nothing like GFE with a real GF -- now in a LTR with a 28 yo civilian. Best sex of my now quite long life. Yes, you can get GFE from hookers in Indonesia, but.

The GFE from a real GF can evolve into something exceptional. So really no need to go back to Classic as that itch has been scratched.

Another note -- I few weeks ago I also tried Malioboro -- greedy staff, good looking but uncooperative girl, and expensive. Forget it.

MSanchez
10-04-23, 10:53
Just arrived this week and have a quick few tips about the airport experience I wish I knew beforehand. Make sure to bring CASH with you for the Visa on Arrival. I read online they accept credit cards but they were not when I arrived. The cost is 500,000 idr or 35 usd. There is an ATM but of course it was completely out of cash and I saw many travelers scrambling to ask the airport staff who were just as clueless (and a bit apathetic) as to what to do. Luckily the VoA people accept US dollars as well. Just hand them your passport and they will give you a VoA ticket that you take to the immigration officers who stamp your passport. It's good for 30 days and you are able to extend it for another 30 days later if you'd like.

Also, make sure to fill out your customs form online and it will give you a barcode. I recommend doing this the day before your flight, as you are allowed to do it up to 24 hours before you arrive. There is a QR code at the airport that brings you to the website, but I could not get the website to load at the airport using the airport wifi. Luckily my phone had international roaming data and the website would work using that internet but not the airport wifi. Go figure.

I tried to do the e-visa online but could not get the website to accept it for me. You have to upload both a digital passport photo and a photo of your passport page. I was finally able to upload both successfully, but it kept giving me an error saying my passport photo did not match the photo on my actual passport, which to be fair was taken almost 8 years ago now. But whatever facial recognition software they use would not accept it. The visa on arrival was painless for me though, it took a 5 minute wait in line and 30 seconds at the window so that was fortunate. The immigration line to get your passport stamped was a bit longer though, about 8 people in front of me took maybe 20 minutes or so. Then get your checked bags and wait in the customs line for another maybe 10 or 15 minutes. This was at 5 pm on a weekday, I imagine Mondays and Fridays would be worse.

I used the grab app to get to my hotel in Central Jakarta, it cost about 180,000 idr at 5 pm. Also I got a local sim card at the airport arrivals area. It cost 260,000 idr for supposedly "14 GB" for 1 month, but when I got back to my hotel I think I only have 8 GB. Maybe it's how they earn their cut or a straight up scam. But I would still do it again, as it seemed quite a hassle to get a SIM card here, they had to register it with the cell phone provider and verify the SIM card with my passport. It took about 10 minutes and they do everything for you, put in the sim card, test it for you to make sure it works, registration, etc.

One other thing, I read online Indonesia requires proof of onward travel. I bought a refundable ticket online just in case even though I had no set date of leaving yet. I've been asked for it before when traveling to other countries that require this, but this time no one asked to see it. The only semblance of the proof of onward travel rule was the immigration office asked me how long I planned to stay in Indonesia. But he never asked to see my plane ticket but maybe it was already in their system somehow. Once I got to my hotel I made sure to cancel my ticket for a full refund. If you buy a ticket to or from the USA there is a 24 hour rule that by law the airline has to refund your ticket if you purchase it at least a week in advance.

Quick question for the more experienced mongers here: what is a fair price from dating app girls to come see you? I've been using badoo and tantan to some success already, but strangely enough I have not had a single match on tinder but I think the app is not letting me like profiles for some reason. Anyways, one girl said she would stay all night until the next morning, and one girl said she can only stay for a few hours but is willing to have sex 2 times during our meeting. What would you say is a fair price for either of those situations? Curious to hear what other people have been / are willing to pay for this. Any advice would be much appreciated.

Hung Man 1808
10-04-23, 14:28
I tried to do the e-visa online but could not get the website to accept it for me. You have to upload both a digital passport photo and a photo of your passport page. I was finally able to upload both successfully, but it kept giving me an error saying my passport photo did not match the photo on my actual passport, which to be fair was taken almost 8 years ago now. But whatever facial recognition software they use would not accept it. I love the new eVOA and customs barcode. Filled out before departing my country. Breezed through in both cases. I think I scanned my passport and edited the passport photo into just a photo and uploaded that. Happy days. I put thoughts about the likely standard of data privacy and cybersecurity within Indonesian government systems aside and am happy as. Bit bizarre they use a mobile phone to take a picture of your eVOA. But hey whatever gets you through. Also saves a double payment at the counter when ms immigrasi says 'card not work, please try again' Yeah like hell it didn't work, pity I didn't see that till later.



Quick question for the more experienced mongers here: what is a fair price from dating app girls to come see you? I've been using badoo and tantan to some success already, but strangely enough I have not had a single match on tinder but I think the app is not letting me like profiles for some reason. Anyways, one girl said she would stay all night until the next morning, and one girl said she can only stay for a few hours but is willing to have sex 2 times during our meeting. What would you say is a fair price for either of those situations? Curious to hear what other people have been / are willing to pay for this. Any advice would be much appreciated.
For all cases above - 2 juta (2 million, 2000 k as a preemptive for those who can't google or FAQ). Seems the sweet spot for civilians in both ST and LT guises. Get along and ST more often than not ends up LT. Glad I'm not the only one finding Tinder a hard road. Still results, but more like 1 in 20 or 30 mid late 20's, 1 in 10 in 30's, and 1 in 50 or more below mid 20's. Bumble also ok, badoo too, not tried tan tan, better try getting wechat back, and there's a few others. Getting gold so you can move locations and preload also saves time. The moment data is established at airport, to arrival in room is a literal swipe fest. I have a sore finger by the time I get to a hotel.

GentileBear
10-04-23, 23:56
Like MShanchez I could not get the E-VOA webpage to work. It took my photo's and then kept timing out. The Captcha thing would say I needed to Verify again. I noticed the Zip code was wrong and I had no idea what Provence to enter. So I tried another session by using Google maps and entered the whole formal addresses of hotel and it populated everything. Then it would not save and go to payment. I tried over 45 minutes with my info trying to get it to process. No errors. Just timed out. Then I decided to do it all over again on a different computer. But keeping my old session online.

Then I found the Secret! - MAKE AN ACCOUNT FIRST. See the system allows you to go straight to VOA / Tourist 30 Days. But if you start at the main Indonesian immigration site and "sign up" it will ask all the passport questions, let you load a picture. Then after email verification. You can simply Buy the Visa you need. So I think you need to have a verified email or an account first setup then it will go smoothly. It does take you to a 3rd party credit card processor (Finpay) - and my credit card provider Texted me an alert to accept or report as fraud. So watch out for that text alert too.

Peace!

MSanchez
10-05-23, 04:02
For all cases above - 2 juta (2 million, 2000 k as a preemptive for those who can't google or FAQ). Seems the sweet spot for civilians in both ST and LT guises. Get along and ST more often than not ends up LT. Glad I'm not the only one finding Tinder a hard road. Still results, but more like 1 in 20 or 30 mid late 20's, 1 in 10 in 30's, and 1 in 50 or more below mid 20's. Bumble also ok, badoo too, not tried tan tan, better try getting wechat back, and there's a few others. Getting gold so you can move locations and preload also saves time. The moment data is established at airport, to arrival in room is a literal swipe fest. I have a sore finger by the time I get to a hotel.HM1808, thanks for the input. Glad to see it was about what I was quoted. The LT girl asked for 2 juta, ready at 8 pm after she got off her waitress job but she left this morning around 7 am for work and wasn't up for a middle of the night 4 am quickie. Not a great body either, I'd only give her a strong 6 maybe, just average compared to the smokeshows at classic. But she was agreeable, spoke english enough, and GFE for the most part for better and worse. It was nice being hand fed by her a satay dinner ordered from grab after our first round.

The other girl I'm supposed to meet today for about 4 hours for 1. 2 juta. In my mind, both 1. 2ST and 2. 0 LT feel about 15% too high but maybe I'm just splitting hairs. But when you compare it to the going rate at Classic for the quality you get, I imagine nothing can live up to that standard and price point. I suppose it's only fair to pay a premium for having them come to you. But it would be nice if they all looked as good as the Classic girls. From now on I'll try offering 1. 0ST and 1. 5 LT, unless they're absolutely a solid 8, 9, or 10.

And GBear, thanks for the tip about the e-voa. I had a feeling that signing up for an account might be helpful, but I was running low on time and had a flight to catch. After spending almost an hour trying to get the website to work to no avail, my patience for it was already at its end.

BKKguru
10-05-23, 05:39
Just arrived this week and have a quick few tips about the airport experience I wish I knew beforehand. Make sure to bring CASH with you for the Visa on Arrival. I read online they accept credit cards but they were not when I arrived. The cost is 500,000 idr or 35 usd. There is an ATM but of course it was completely out of cash and I saw many travelers scrambling to ask the airport staff who were just as clueless (and a bit apathetic) as to what to do. Luckily the VoA people accept US dollars as well. Just hand them your passport and they will give you a VoA ticket that you take to the immigration officers who stamp your passport. It's good for 30 days and you are able to extend it for another 30 days later if you'd like. <snip>

One other thing, I read online Indonesia requires proof of onward travel. I bought a refundable ticket online just in case even though I had no set date of leaving yet. I've been asked for it before when traveling to other countries that require this, but this time no one asked to see it. <snip>

Quick question for the more experienced mongers here: what is a fair price from dating app girls to come see you? I've been using badoo and tantan to some success already, but strangely enough I have not had a single match on tinder but I think the app is not letting me like profiles for some reason. Anyways, one girl said she would stay all night until the next morning, and one girl said she can only stay for a few hours but is willing to have sex 2 times during our meeting. What would you say is a fair price for either of those situations? Curious to hear what other people have been / are willing to pay for this. Any advice would be much appreciated.Thanks for sharing your experience.

On arrival, I always pay Cash (IDR or USD). Much easier and the people standing in line (behind you) will thank you. I was informed at the Airport that Credit Cards are NOT accepted.

I have visited Jakarta multiple times. To date, I have NEVER been asked to show my Return Ticket.
I was asked about the reason for my visit and length of stay.

When I meet girls via the dating Apps, 50% of the girls will discuss money in advance.
My Rule and limit is: 1 Juta + 200K for Taxi. 80% of the girls accept my offer. One 25 year old girl did tell me (after I met her) that I should "include more money".

When I visited a month later, she came to meet me again and accepted 1.2 Juta without comment.

Besides the money, it also comes down to how you treat the girl. When the girl arrives in my Room, I immediately offer them a bottle of water. If I have chocolates or fruit, I ask them if they want to munch. This breaks the ice and puts the girl at ease.

~BKKguru

Banana Boi
10-07-23, 19:36
I have visited Jakarta multiple times. To date, I have NEVER been asked to show my Return Ticket.
I was asked about the reason for my visit and length of stay.I have only been asked for this once on my many trips. I was a bit surprised I was asked. Since it was only a border run from Thailand I had one. I'm guessing it's totally random.

Bkk212
10-09-23, 03:22
I have read your post on blok m glad to know.

That My Bar is still open. I usually visit Jakarta 2-3.

Times a year for the past 20+years except for Covid.

I mostly frequented Top Gun now closed but I am.

A regular at MB.

I will return in Dec and haven't been there since.

The new law.

Question: did you have any issue with your friend.

Visiting the hotel?

Are there any special arrangements to be made.

Before with the hotel?


As expected, My Bar on the weekend after 11 pm was packed with both male / female customers and a fair number of apparent doable freelancers, with very few vacant seats. There's a sign inside that advertises sexy dancers on Friday and Saturday nights. Unfortunately there were no performers on Friday, but Saturday found four spinners dressed in sexy French maid outfits gyrating on the stage and on the counters for short performances, staying fully clothed. All were fairly cute, but one caught my eye and grabbed my libido from afar.

Her name is Ella, who was looking super sexy wearing silver fishnet stockings and high silver stripper shoes. Her sultry outfit, long hair, dark skin, beautiful set of teeth, pretty face, tiny body, and an ever present smile was more than enough to reel me in. During one of their long intermissions she was standing with the bar entourage, so I walked over and complimented her on the performance and handed her a Rp 50,000 bill.

Of course she's smart enough to appreciate the scent of an open wallet, so she soon came to my seat at the bar and we chatted for a few minutes. I offered to buy her a drink and she picked some weird looking flavored concoction. We seemed to hit it off pretty well, and before returning to the stage she asked if I wanted to take her home later.

Her price was Rp 1 million, which was certainly acceptable. The problem was the dancers would not be released from duty until after 5 am. The current time was around 2 am, and I'm sorry but there's no woman in the world enticing enough to keep me waiting until near sunrise. So I unfortunately declined, but said she hoped I would change my mind later.

Sunday night I returned to the bar, and it had returned to its normal mostly-empty self. I had planned on sitting this night out and just relaxing, but during beer #2 my gal Ella entered as a civilian. She rushed over as soon as she spotted me, and there was no way I was going to let her get away again. We downed a couple of beers and played a few rounds of pool as we chatted. She has a nice personality and was a lot of fun to hang out with. As the beer began to lower my resistance, I asked if she wanted to come to my room. She readily agreed, and we traipsed the 50 meter walk to the hotel while walking with our arms around each other like old lovers.

She provided the perfect GF experience. She's as cute as a button, sweet as honey, kissed like a committed girl friend, and rode me like a cowgirl. Definitely the kind of gal you'd consider packing inside your luggage to take home.

On Monday I spent some time walking around the nearby Blok M Square mall, a somewhat dilapidated multi-leveled building containing hundreds of kiosks selling all kinds of crap.

There are plenty of small massage shops on the upper floors, and several of the therapists were waving me over. On the top floor there was a particularly eager gal around 30 years old, who was easy on the eyes. The price at her shop was Rp 100,000, or around $7 USA I haven't had one in a couple of years, so I decided to partake.

I've had several massages in the Philippines, and all of them have been tame. But I was unprepared for today's rubdown to turn naughty.

There were three cubicle areas, separated by draped sheets. As I laid on the bed, I could hear the hand slapping and slight moaning of the guy next to me getting his legitimate massage. I felt a bit uncomfortable being within earshot of this customer, but I was already locked in.

My gal spent about 10 minutes massaging my legs as I laid on my stomach. But out of the blue, her hands started running higher and higher up my thigh. All of a sudden, she reached out and started milking the area between my bung hole and testicles. I've lived for over six decades and no woman has ever touched me in such a way before. Immediately my little friend stiffened up and I was the proud owner of a raging hard-on.

While straddling my legs, she leaned over and whispered in my ear, "we make love, fuck fuck". I asked for the price and she held up five fingers. Yeah, I overpaid but I wasn't going to let this memorable moment escape me.

After nodding my head yes, she slid off her panties and fumbled for a condom. She got on her back, spread her legs, and put her index finger against her lips to motion that we needed to be quiet.

So there I was, doinking this gal while laying a mere 2 to 3 feet away from my neighbor's head. I was able to thrust without any mattress noise, but she wrapped one of her hands behind my head to keep my head from moving and mouth from moaning as she was vigorously kissing me. This was my first time engaging in near-voyeuristic sex and the titillation definitely added to the excitement.

Finally after a few minutes I exploded, and suddenly we were done. I gave her the 500,000 and she didn't ask me for extra for the massage, so the effective price of the extra service was 400,000. I'd gladly pay it again to feel the tactile caress of a gentle hand rubbing my glans from behind.

To sum it up, I had another great visit in Jakarta. I have another trip scheduled during the Christmas holiday, but I've already made a reservation to stay in the Sarinah area and hit some new spots. My liver needs time to dry out after this trip.

Keen Eye Joe 1
10-09-23, 08:40
I have read your post on blok m glad to know.

That My Bar is still open. I usually visit Jakarta 2-3.

Times a year for the past 20+years except for Covid.

I mostly frequented Top Gun now closed but I am.

A regular at MB.

I will return in Dec and haven't been there since.

The new law.

Question: did you have any issue with your friend.

Visiting the hotel?

Are there any special arrangements to be made.

Before with the hotel?The Sotis Falatehan Hotel is located quite near to My Bar. The staff was extremely friendly and accommodating. I brought three girls to the hotel and the guards just waved me through. No one was manning the check-in desk due to the late hour of my conquests, as I returned to the hotel well after midnight. No prior arrangements were made with management. I cannot speak for policies at other hotels, but I have a feeling the Jakarta police department probably reserves their officers for higher priority tasks than dealing with late night horny foreigners.

PartyAnimal
10-14-23, 00:02
Got to try both of them last month. BATS on a Friday night. Was fun but like people said, is full of aged women. However fixated my eyes on a beauty that looked late 20's. Regular dance and stuff which I think makes it more GFE later to break the ice. Brought her back. While she was GFE, too loose for me to be able to enjoy. So not someone I would recommend.

Next stop was Delta and got the minimum 2 hour basic package. Ok massage. While she applied pressure, basic technique was missing. Entire session I was wondering what's on the menu. In the end it was just a hand driven effort which was a shame as I was expecting more. She didn't even allow me to touch. Anyone knows if more services are offered at Delta than what I got?

PartyAnimal
10-14-23, 00:07
I used JW Marriott & LE Meridien Spas. The therapists are very attractive & pretty good service. If you are staying there, then you can request in room & no limits.Bro. Would you explain what you mean by no limits? Have tried Marriott multiple times but only got clean massage.

Member #3088
10-14-23, 14:01
Got to try both of them last month. BATS on a Friday night. Was fun but like people said, is full of aged women. However fixated my eyes on a beauty that looked late 20's. Regular dance and stuff which I think makes it more GFE later to break the ice. Brought her back. While she was GFE, too loose for me to be able to enjoy. So not someone I would recommend.

Next stop was Delta and got the minimum 2 hour basic package. Ok massage. While she applied pressure, basic technique was missing. Entire session I was wondering what's on the menu. In the end it was just a hand driven effort which was a shame as I was expecting more. She didn't even allow me to touch. Anyone knows if more services are offered at Delta than what I got?Delta standard is massage + HJ, that's it.

PartyAnimal
10-15-23, 12:57
Delta standard is massage + HJ, that's it.Thanks. Any spa nearby that offers more? Unfortunately Malioboro etc are far from where I'm staying.

Member #3088
10-16-23, 12:20
Thanks. Any spa nearby that offers more? Unfortunately Malioboro etc are far from where I'm staying.Not sure where you are staying, but if in central Jakarta you could try fortune or sagitarrius.

CamboCleve
10-16-23, 12:46
Blah Blah Blah, I RTFF (read the fucking forums) backwards and forwards and came to this itinerary for my first post Covid Jakarta trip:

Overall. Go with the Flow. Seems the scene is very spread out but the same places are mentioned over and over. And me? I never even made it to any clubs like Classic in 2019 - I exclusively used Tinder / TanTan. But fast forward to late 2023 and I am wanting more of a 'point and shoot' experience. Especially first when I land:

Here it is:

-Classic (must see, home-base, soo many posts about very thin ladies).

-Travel.

-Kings Cross.

-Star Moon and *Kota Indah * (Jayakarta) the horseshoe bars. Will go afternoon first to get a feel for the area. Then go back at night

-Tinder Gold while in hotel.

-WeChat while in hotel.

Have decided to Ditch buying a SIM card (last trip Grapari or whatever was a long process and now it seems even more work. Will stick with wifi / skype / messenger / whatsapp).

Staying Harmoni Hotel.

No CJ's, BATS or Malio aka Malioboro (too expensive for my current budget).

Will tip taxi drivers to Lurk and Explore why not? "Take me to Clubs where girls give massage" - no I will not insult a religious driver. Will "test" diferent drivers. With the cost of taxi being so low and so many posts about ". I forgot where it is but this small club had amazing talent of girls. " Seems things change a lot. So I will blow a few $$ on Taxi drivers for current intel.

Zanny's Maps. Saved and Printed Out -.

* - Seems there are a few posters who claim this area is prone to raids? I did read where Golden Crown was shut. KI seems shrouded in mystery and many posters seem to ask the same questions' when I RTFF.

Grab / Blue Bird / mangga besar area for Cialis /.

I'll be there in a few weeks. Any comments or suggestions are helpful.SIM cards are easy to get at the airport, and also many small phone shops can sell you a sim that is already registered, you are correct getting a sim card at grabari can be a long wait, but having data everywhere is so useful.

There are a few other clubs in Kelapa gading worth a look as well as kings cross. Check out Sumo, Permata, MTR 2 and not far away by taxi there is the'heaven, groovy, pablo's, blowart.

Near the bars in Kota indah check out Demomo and Halte spa.

I like to visit kota indah about 5 pm most girls are in and the bars are not so busy or loud.

Medika can be good some evenings, and fashion hotel is also interesting for a spa with girls, the girls will also go to the pools / sauna with you if you make a booking with them.

Michat is what you want not wechat, its tricky to install on foreign phones but lots of selection on nights / afternoons you don't want to go out, but a lot of bait and switch, try to video chat the girl to make sure she matches the photos.

Have a good trip.

Menteng
10-18-23, 04:43
SIM cards are easy to get at the airport, and also many small phone shops can sell you a sim that is already registered, you are correct getting a sim card at grabari can be a long wait, but having data everywhere is so useful.

You're meaning that without registering the IMEI, you can use those SIM cards in your foreign mobile phone?

I have a registered SIM card but I can't use it in my foreign mobile phone only on my Indonesian one.

KeenGerle
10-23-23, 02:47
Take the train to Tanjung Priok station, get an ojek to take you Cilincing and Jalan Inspeksi Cakung drain. Follow this track South until you have a cemetery on your right. Jutting into the cemetery is Rawa Malang. You can fornicate away amongst the cumulative layers of Jakarta's dead. Remember! If it's got ducks, It's the real thing.

This area is dirt poor. For context look at the following photo essay in the Jakarta post https://www.thejakartapost.com/longform/2023/09/08/living-hope-of-children-on-jakartas-coastline.html.

Hope that helps.WOW. Haha. Ok. Will explore and report next time I go. Thanks for sharing. Sounds very adventures.

PartyAnimal
10-23-23, 06:21
I used JW Marriott & LE Meridien Spas. The therapists are very attractive & pretty good service. If you are staying there, then you can request in room & no limits.Not sure if you are extremely lucky but from my experience:

1) No in room spa available in both of these hotels anymore.

2) Totally clean experience. No extras.

But yeah their therapists are very beautiful.

OldSnake
10-25-23, 20:22
Get a number and use grab bikes much cheaper.


Blah Blah Blah, I RTFF (read the fucking forums) backwards and forwards and came to this itinerary for my first post Covid Jakarta trip:

Overall. Go with the Flow. Seems the scene is very spread out but the same places are mentioned over and over. And me? I never even made it to any clubs like Classic in 2019 - I exclusively used Tinder / TanTan. But fast forward to late 2023 and I am wanting more of a 'point and shoot' experience. Especially first when I land:

Here it is:

-Classic (must see, home-base, soo many posts about very thin ladies).

-Travel.

-Kings Cross.

-Star Moon and *Kota Indah * (Jayakarta) the horseshoe bars. Will go afternoon first to get a feel for the area. Then go back at night

-Tinder Gold while in hotel.

-WeChat while in hotel..

GentileBear
10-28-23, 08:33
Some of you are really cool with the hints and strategies of dealing with the ladies of Jakarta. Appreciate it. Sucks I missed a few messages because I was there in Jakarta and no ISG was available.

So! How did it turn out? Well I saved money in Kota Indah's Starmoon. Right now they have Happy Hour starting at 2 pm. Starmoon and Classic both serve dark Guiness bottled beer with an Aluminum cup filled with Ice Cubes. And they will stab your Beer mug with Ice cubes. Mind you. Guiness is a Strong beer. And I had a great playful attitude. So why not?!

Go Up?

Go Up?

Go Up?

Baby. I want to drink first. Also. Starmoon seems to continuously have Guns and Roses playing mid afternoon. Which I find bizarre as I am the only Bule there and the girls don't really like Rock -maybe it was the law of attraction? Go Up? Baby. I buy you one. Here. Mamasan asks bartender to my table. I hand signal to order her a drink. She comes back to give the girl a glass bottle and then fills it with ice cubes and some of my Guinness. Ok cool. Then I buy 1 more beer. She drinks like a Sailor. Cool! Go Up? Mister Go Up? Take Drink to Room? Go Up? Go Up? Go Up?

Now I had just wanted to get a feel of Kota Indah area in the day when I first arrived but being in there I felt very comfortable. It's not that sketchy based on my Tijuana Zona Norte experiences and I was made to feel welcome. The thing is that in Jakarta. There are no Fitchas (ladies drinks) - so they apparent don't get any commissions from drinks. But I got lucky on my first 3 or 4 sessions! I have always like ladies who drink and when the beer guzzling Jakarta ladies get a Fast buzz off of the Guiness. I decided to Go Up.

Starmoon 20 year old lady says to me on her phone that I am meaty big and adorable. She and I are drunk and we take our shower and I am impressed with her natural body. Did not take long to extend my johnson and make it into the cockpit raw. Yes! The ladies in Jakarta like to suck on your nipples and stomache as well as suck your balls and other different actions. Good attitude and very accommodating. Starmoon lady. Not obsessed with the antiseptic bottle spray (lysterine) like Classic ladies are. But I let them be professionals and do their thing.

I know I am rambling here. But I'll just say that due to the LOOKS of the ladies in specifically Starmoon, Sari Aryu and Classic. I never made it to Kings Cross or even Malio (Maliobro) - even though my hotel was walking distance to Malio. I was GodSmacked at the quality of the bodies!

Sadly I am getting older fatter and need my wingman Cialis to assist my accomplishments. I also like to drink (yeah I know). But Classic ladies want you to nut. Sure its their business. This is thier job but I got to say I was really impressed with the attitude of most of my session leaders. Classic's facilities are excellent. The Hotel rooms are clean and the showers work very well. It is like you are going on a date. You can order her an Avacado Smoothy and you a Guiness Beer to the room. You are "rushed" to Go Up. And the mamasans are as hyper and insistent that you do. Sari Aryu in Kota Inda. Which is to the left of Starmoon has my favorite type of seating. Big ass red couch like an Italian Restaurant. Cool because I hate barstools anyway. The lineup presentation. Here I made a rookie mistake. One was flawless and stunning and the other ladies were watching me drool over her. Some in the line up smiled back at me and some did nothing. I was drunk as usual and decided that I had to take the risk and go up with this amazing super sexy Goddess. Going UP everything was fine and dandy. Shower time holy fuck her body was flawless. On the bed She Absolutely FREAKED when I Suggested BBFS. Her hand gestures were like a Chinese old lady waiving NO with her finger. Her face went into a Screaming Cat Hate and Anger.... Wow. Ok Got it. Not going to pursue that option. I will say that that was an outlier situation and BBFS was readily available here and at Classic and Starmoon.

Lots more I could write. Maybe more later. Oh for First Timers to Jakarta -don't do what I did: See. When the driver of the 3 Wheeler Blue Tuk Tuk names a price they put out their fingers. 3 fingers. 4 fingers. 5 fingers.

Fuck me Jesus it took me about 3 days to figure out that 5 fingers meant the guy expected 50,000 IDR (Blue note) not 500,000 or (5 brown notes). I was using these as transportation since I did not have a sim. So I would flag them down. He puts up 3 fingers and you guessed it. I just accidently tipped him 270 K IDR. No wonder they were all so happy to pick me up.

Short Executive Summary. For guys who don't need anal sex and think Pattaya bar girls or Angeles City bar girls are of decent quality looks. You WILL be BLOWN AWAY in Jakarta. Yes! Looks wise. The BIG natural tits, the thicker big boned waist and attitude beats them 100%. Speaking no English is a big factor here. Translation apps are very useful. And the one negative about Jakarta that I have to write about that is FUCKING DISGUSTING is the God Damn traffic. 1 HR to get to Kota Kasablanca mall from the Monument. Just to turn right back and hit a traffic jam. It is misery. But you only live once and there's a ridiculous amount of cute, Hot, stunning ladies over there. There were so many ladies in Classic, Starmoon and Sari Aryu that I probably only saw maybe 35% of their faces and I never even made it to Travel or Kings Kross. Was mesmerizing in Classic alone. They gave me an honorary wooden paddle #69 as I left terminal 2 - which is actually the 3rd floor. And went downstairs to the front. Just kidding.

Dren69
10-28-23, 16:43
Some of you are really cool with the hints and strategies of dealing with the ladies of Jakarta. Appreciate it. Sucks I missed a few messages because I was there in Jakarta and no ISG was available.

So! How did it turn out? Well I saved money in Kota Indah's Starmoon. Right now they have Happy Hour starting at 2 pm. Starmoon and Classic both serve dark Guiness bottled beer with an Aluminum cup filled with Ice Cubes. And they will stab your Beer mug with Ice cubes. Mind you. Guiness is a Strong beer. And I had a great playful attitude. So why not?!

Go Up?

Go Up?

Go Up?

Baby. I want to drink first. Also. Starmoon seems to continuously have Guns and Roses playing mid afternoon. Which I find bizarre as I am the only Bule there and the girls don't really like Rock -maybe it was the law of attraction? Go Up? Baby. I buy you one. Here. Mamasan asks bartender to my table. I hand signal to order her a drink. She comes back to give the girl a glass bottle and then fills it with ice cubes and some of my Guinness. Ok cool. Then I buy 1 more beer. She drinks like a Sailor. Cool! Go Up? Mister Go Up? Take Drink to Room? Go Up? Go Up? Go Up?.Thanks for sharing mate. Excellent write up and good advice.

Rick Steves
10-28-23, 20:13
Thanks for the detailed report. To access ISG from Indonesia you could try the DuckDuckGo browser. It worked for me on a trip 10 months ago.


Some of you are really cool with the hints and strategies of dealing with the ladies of Jakarta. Appreciate it. Sucks I missed a few messages because I was there in Jakarta and no ISG was available.

So! How did it turn out? Well I saved money in Kota Indah's Starmoon. Right now they have Happy Hour starting at 2 pm. Starmoon and Classic both serve dark Guiness bottled beer with an Aluminum cup filled with Ice Cubes. And they will stab your Beer mug with Ice cubes. Mind you. Guiness is a Strong beer. And I had a great playful attitude. So why not?!.

Caramello777
10-29-23, 13:34
As far as Jakarta hotels go, I can say from first-hand experience that Hotel Mulia (club CJs) is like John Shaft. It is a bad mutha.

Marble floors and 5 stars for sure. However, CJs, the local bar is what this post is about.

Closed on Sundays and Mondays, CJs has live entertainment. I was there in September and there is a cover band there from Canada that rocks the house Tues. Saturdays.

I was a guest there and they did check my room key upon entering the club. So I'm not sure what the cover charge is for those not staying at the hotel. CJs is on the second floor. There is a public parking garage for those visiting from outside and it will allow you to enter on the 2nd floor.

What I can tell you is there is a fine selection of beautiful Indonesia ladies (and sometimes a European or two) there. The ratio of women-to-men is in our favor guys. Hands down! I think the ratio was 5-1 both nights I was there. The first night I walked in I was malled by two ladies within seconds. I've been at this P4P game for a while so I knew to quickly excuse myself from their presence and walk around and survey the lay of the land. The competition is very stiff for them. CJs is absolutely impressive.

CJs stays open until 3 or 4 am. I arrived the first night around 10 pm to a packed house. The music and atmosphere are great. Do expect to pay 120 k IDR for a beer and 200 k for a mixed drink. The first night there I chose a lady for 1. 5 million for all night. The next night I wanted 3 so I just offered them 500 k to 1 million for the hour, went upstairs, then came back down. Next! Indonesian women can be extremely jealous so part of the 1 million deal is don't walk up to me when you see me back down here talking with another chica. Our deal is done.

Explorer8939
10-29-23, 14:04
As far as Jakarta hotels go, I can say from first-hand experience that Hotel Mulia (club CJs) is like John Shaft. It is a bad mutha.

Marble floors and 5 stars for sure. However, CJs, the local bar is what this post is about.

Closed on Sundays and Mondays, CJs has live entertainment. I was there in September and there is a cover band there from Canada that rocks the house Tues. Saturdays.

I was a guest there and they did check my room key upon entering the club. So I'm not sure what the cover charge is for those not staying at the hotel. CJs is on the second floor. There is a public parking garage for those visiting from outside and it will allow you to enter on the 2nd floor.

What I can tell you is there is a fine selection of beautiful Indonesia ladies (and sometimes a European or two) there. The ratio of women-to-men is in our favor guys. Hands down! I think the ratio was 5-1 both nights I was there. The first night I walked in I was malled by two ladies within seconds. I've been at this P4P game for a while so I knew to quickly excuse myself from their presence and walk around and survey the lay of the land. The competition is very stiff for them. CJs is absolutely impressive.

There are several Hotel Mulias in Jakarta.

Which was yours?

BKKguru
10-29-23, 17:09
Some of you are really cool with the hints and strategies of dealing with the ladies of Jakarta. Appreciate it. Sucks I missed a few messages because I was there in Jakarta and no ISG was available.

So! How did it turn out? Well I saved money in Kota Indah's Starmoon. Right now they have Happy Hour starting at 2 pm. Starmoon and Classic both serve dark Guiness bottled beer with an Aluminum cup filled with Ice Cubes.
<snip>

Starmoon 20 year old lady says to me on her phone that I am meaty big and adorable. She and I are drunk and we take our shower and I am impressed with her natural body. Did not take long to extend my johnson and make it into the cockpit raw. Yes! The ladies in Jakarta like to suck on your nipples and stomache as well as suck your balls and other different actions. Good attitude and very accommodating. Starmoon lady. Not obsessed with the antiseptic bottle spray (lysterine) like Classic ladies are. But I let them be professionals and do their thing.

<snip>

Lots more I could write. Maybe more later. Oh for First Timers to Jakarta -don't do what I did: See. When the driver of the 3 Wheeler Blue Tuk Tuk names a price they put out their fingers. 3 fingers. 4 fingers. 5 fingers.

Fuck me Jesus it took me about 3 days to figure out that 5 fingers meant the guy expected 50,000 IDR (Blue note) not 500,000 or (5 brown notes). I was using these as transportation since I did not have a sim. So I would flag them down. He puts up 3 fingers and you guessed it. I just accidently tipped him 270 K IDR. No wonder they were all so happy to pick me up.
Great post. Experience is the best teacher!

Starmoon
I have never been here. Is the Room/bedsheet clean? Or should I BYOS (Bring Your Own Sheet)?!! What is the price to take the lady to the Room?

Blue Tuk Tuk
When the driver holds up five fingers (50,000 IDR), I respond by showing three fingers (30,000 IDR). The driver *expects* you to negotiate, so they quote a higher fare.
The driver who you tipped 270,000 IDR, will remember you for the rest of his life.

~BKKguru

SteelBaton
10-29-23, 21:18
No, generally you will NOT be able to use a local SIM with your foreign phone unless you register.

However, this depends on the age of the phone. I have never registered any phone and my old iPhone X continues to work with my local Telkomsel SIM, but my iPhone 13 will not. Both phones have the latest iOS updates, so I think it's a hardware difference. My iPhone 6 also works w / o registration. This situation is fine for me as I can hotspot of my IP X to my IP 13 or my iPad, and the data is cheap.

I think you really need mobile data so you can use Grab, WhatsApp, Google Translate, Maps, etc when you are on the road. So either you have a cheap international roaming plan (an American friend says the US company T-Mobile offers 5 GB free data roaming in most ASEAN countries) or you have to buy a local SIM and figure out a phone that can use it. You could of course buy a cheap second-hand phone in Jakarta and hotspot off that. All new or second-hand phones sold in Indonesia should be automatically registered.

If you wish, you can easily and cheaply register the IMEI of your overseas phone at the airport. There are many signs as you pass baggage claim and turn right to exit customs. I don't know what that does and whether you are giving the local law enforcement authorities a simple way to connect your intercepted SMS or e-mails with your passport identity. I have avoided registering for that reason.

Personally, I would just bring an old iPhone X or older and use it for hotspoting. My last choice would be to not have mobile data.

Background: the government started requiring all phones used in Indonesia to register the IMEI data. This is supposedly to reduce the inflow of untaxed "black" foreign phones, but I think the measure also designed is to have better visibility over people's private communications. Hong Kong and other authoritarian regimes do the same. I don't want to be on their radar, if possible.

See also: https://indonesiaexpat.id/outreach/info-for-expats/heres-how-to-report-cell-phones-purchased-from-abroad-and-avoid-getting-blocked/.


You're meaning that without registering the IMEI, you can use those SIM cards in your foreign mobile phone?

I have a registered SIM card but I can't use it in my foreign mobile phone only on my Indonesian one.

SteelBaton
10-29-23, 21:25
I think any VPN will get you access. Always works for me.


Thanks for the detailed report. To access ISG from Indonesia you could try the DuckDuckGo browser. It worked for me on a trip 10 months ago.

GentileBear
10-30-23, 21:22
Starmoon
I have never been here. Is the Room/bedsheet clean? Or should I BYOS (Bring Your Own Sheet)?!! What is the price to take the lady to the Room?



~BKKguruI would say bring your own sheets. Hahaha. It is not as nice upstairs like Classic is. Shower works but I do remember one shower having no shower-head. So it would Spray like the Asian toilets have that side spray handle attachment. But hey it was only 350 K IDR and came with a professional Clove Smoker - all as I remeber from Starmoon bar had great attitudes and I can still remember the smiles, groans and eye contact. Call me a Simp. But I like good eye contact and the Indo ladies are great at this.

Yeah the bed is kinda well worn and broken in at Starmoon to be honest.

Banana Boi
10-31-23, 01:45
CJs Bar in Hotel Mulia


There are several Hotel Mulias in Jakarta. Which was yours?I'm guessing the one where CJ's bar is, Hotel Mulia Senayan Jakarta.

Explorer8939
10-31-23, 03:57
As far as Jakarta hotels go, I can say from first-hand experience that Hotel Mulia (club CJs) is like John Shaft. It is a bad mutha.

Marble floors and 5 stars for sure. However, CJs, the local bar is what this post is about.

Closed on Sundays and Mondays, CJs has live entertainment. I was there in September and there is a cover band there from Canada that rocks the house Tues. Saturdays.

I was a guest there and they did check my room key upon entering the club. So I'm not sure what the cover charge is for those not staying at the hotel. CJs is on the second floor. There is a public parking garage for those visiting from outside and it will allow you to enter on the 2nd floor.

What I can tell you is there is a fine selection of beautiful Indonesia ladies (and sometimes a European or two) there. The ratio of women-to-men is in our favor guys. Hands down! I think the ratio was 5-1 both nights I was there. The first night I walked in I was malled by two ladies within seconds. I've been at this P4P game for a while so I knew to quickly excuse myself from their presence and walk around and survey the lay of the land. The competition is very stiff for them. CJs is absolutely impressive.

CJs stays open until 3 or 4 am. I arrived the first night around 10 pm to a packed house. The music and atmosphere are great. Do expect to pay 120 k IDR for a beer and 200 k for a mixed drink. The first night there I chose a lady for 1. 5 million for all night. The next night I wanted 3 so I just offered them 500 k to 1 million for the hour, went upstairs, then came back down. Next! Indonesian women can be extremely jealous so part of the 1 million deal is don't walk up to me when you see me back down here talking with another chica. Our deal is done.Wow. 200,000 Rupiah for a mixed drink, but 500,000 for a lady in an upscale bar.

Very nice, but very strange.

Irish Mongrel
11-01-23, 06:17
Is it still a dark den? I used to spend a week every month in the Mulia, but got fed up with CJ's favoring BAT's. However, was in BAT's a few months ago and the selection was pretty slim, and well towards ladies in their 30's or older. Had one drink and left. You've got me interested in CJ's again.


As far as Jakarta hotels go, I can say from first-hand experience that Hotel Mulia (club CJs) is like John Shaft. It is a bad mutha.

Marble floors and 5 stars for sure. However, CJs, the local bar is what this post is about.

BenderOver
11-01-23, 06:37
Is it still a dark den? I used to spend a week every month in the Mulia, but got fed up with CJ's favoring BAT's. However, was in BAT's a few months ago and the selection was pretty slim, and well towards ladies in their 30's or older. Had one drink and left. You've got me interested in CJ's again.The last time I checked out CJ and BATS was 2019. Great steak and drinks at BATS. Girls are way too old and trying way too hard. And if they're going to be so aggressive looking for business, they should reduce their price, but no. MILF for 2 M ST was just not going to work out. Also, it's so dark down there that I couldn't see the product worth a shit.

CJ was incredible. Found me some college CUTIES but stupidly they were afraid to go back to my place unless I booked multiple girls at once. 2 M + 2 M for LT. I've never had a LT stay past 5 AM. They usually ask for ride money and get out before traffic starts. So I said no, and no, and no, until I met a pretty one and invited her back for 1 M LT. Found out in the room with the lights on why she accepted 1 M. MILF and not skinny. She looked young and hot in the club.

Lesson is that CJ has cuter girls and likely will get your better mileage than BATS. But make sure you had your eyes checked and can see in club level lighting. Cuties are plentiful at CJ's.

This info is from 2019. If anyone has any updates from this report to reflect, I'd love to hear how the places are now.

BenderOver
11-01-23, 06:51
Short Executive Summary. For guys who don't need anal sex and think Pattaya bar girls or Angeles City bar girls are of decent quality looks. You WILL be BLOWN AWAY in Jakarta. Yes! Looks wise. The BIG natural tits, the thicker big boned waist and attitude beats them 100%. Speaking no English is a big factor here. Translation apps are very useful. And the one negative about Jakarta that I have to write about that is FUCKING DISGUSTING is the God Damn traffic. 1 HR to get to Kota Kasablanca mall from the Monument. Just to turn right back and hit a traffic jam. It is misery. But you only live once and there's a ridiculous amount of cute, Hot, stunning ladies over there. There were so many ladies in Classic, Starmoon and Sari Aryu that I probably only saw maybe 35% of their faces and I never even made it to Travel or Kings Kross. Was mesmerizing in Classic alone. They gave me an honorary wooden paddle #69 as I left terminal 2 - which is actually the 3rd floor. And went downstairs to the front. Just kidding.Not sure I agree with the "big boned waist" comment. I love how skinny the girls are.

What the f**k are you heading to Kota Kasablanca for from Monas? Shit bud, just go to Grand Indo or Plaza Indo in Thamrin.

As for traffic, after several visits, it's amazing how you learn to stay at the perfect hotel to avoid traffic. If you're trying to head north around 6 PM, I would recommend that you NOT stay on the east side of the street. Otherwise, you head into a bluebird, and you're southbound until the driver can make a you-turn. And in parts of jaksel, that could be a fucking 45 minute drive to the next you-turn! Be on the west side of the street, and it could easily save you 30 to 60 minutes of traffic. Grab GoJek motorcycle / scooter saves a ton of time also.

BenderOver
11-01-23, 07:01
Bro. Would you explain what you mean by no limits? Have tried Marriott multiple times but only got clean massage.I've previously posted about hotel massages. The general rule that I've found applies very consistently is this:

If the hotel has a true spa you walk into, go to the spa lobby, sit and relax with a tea or refreshment, and there's a front counter, with glass case displays, etc, then you're not going to get any special he there. It's strictly massage (and a wonderful massage at that) with foot bath and salt rub, jasmine oil, etc.

If the hotel has 2 or 3 converted rooms that are makeshift massage areas, no counter, no lobby, etc. , then the massage therapists are consultants from the outside world, and there's an array of services that can be had depending on your masseuse. But be warned that the price will shock you and it's seldom worth it. To give you an idea, they'll hit you for 600 k for a HJ tip. FS will easily go well into 1. 5 M and higher and they'll want you to not take too long. Also the ladies are seldom attractive.

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11-01-23, 14:13
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Gianni Versace
11-01-23, 17:14
Hi gang! This is Zanny again popping in, of the famous map: https://www.google.com/maps/@-6.1942649, 106.6294033,11 z / data=!4 m2!6 m1!1 s1 otTyUwFhqAMfy3 fA8 NDfarH5 RkBEnTA? Entry=ttu.

I will be back on the ground in a few weeks, so poking my head in here to see if anyone is in sync with my days, to hang out. Or if you are reading this from another country and it's your first time in Jakarta and want to fly to meet me, I am happy to provide a free guided tour.

Does anyone have any updates or amendments to my map before I go? Places I need to check out, places that are closed forever?

Thanks GentileBear for your nice trip report. I will definitely be checking out Sari Aryu for the italian restaurant seating. I guess you were attracted to my mention of BBFS at Starmoon in my trip report, to make a beeline there, haha! This is why it is so important to give back to the forum.

As you learnt, without a SIM, you spent way too much on taxis. You could have just used Grab app everywhere.

I just went around the world using a single eSIM. Check if your phone supports eSIM. I used Airalo global 20 GB and it worked in 12 countries over 6 weeks, for about $100. If you really care, you can drill down and research which network they connect to and compare that to the top network provider in the country. Really only issue is setting the APN.I will be on the ground December 5-7 if you want to meet up I would be down. LMK.

Benefactor
11-02-23, 00:15
Long time monger but it has been years!

Visiting Jakarta for work in two weeks. Have one night to myself and would love to have an uncomplicated visit to my hotel room. I'm too old to go to clubs, don't drink and will be super tired after long flight. Could anyone be so kind to share a contact to someone reliable over PM?

What I am after: young (18-30) as I am well in to my 50's. Reliable performer. Price isn't really that much of an issue.

Sorry if this is too much to ask for but I have been out of the game so long and Indonesia is new to me.

Roy2920
11-02-23, 02:24
Just returned from visit to Jakarta. Here is the report of my outcall and Classic session. I usually visit the 5th floor, but it seems that only the 1st and 3rd floor are opened. Just had a drink with a girl for the night but didn't proceed further. A lot of pushy pimps in this floor. The 1st floor seems more promising but I am just not sure how the system works in this floor as there is nobody pushing anything here!

Had an outcall from WeChat. Quoted IDR700 k for massage + FJ. Asked for more photos and she obliged. The girl seems reasonably pretty with nice see cup. Unfortunately, she doesn't allow kiss, or DATY, and very mechanical. She declined my request for massage saying that the message that I received was only from operator. Really spoilt the mood, even had the cheek to ask for tips. I definitely didn't give her any and just kicked her out.

Roy2920
11-02-23, 02:27
Just returned from Jakarta and had my first LT in my lifetime. Need you guys opinion if IDR15 m for 2 nights I paid to this girl is reasonable.

Had a great experience with this young MILF once in another country. Managed to keep in touch with her and book her for 2 nights in Jakarta. She is actually in an unofficial relationship with a successful local businessman but has been playing around outside – being sugarbaby to a contractor, some FL works. She also works as photo model photoshoot and has a successful business. On the day she is coming to see me, she went to the hair salon and bought a t-shirt and Indonesian delicacy for me. That really warm my heart. We met at the hotel lobby and I was surprised that she just jumped, hugged and kissed me like long lost military wife. Not sure if it is genuine but her emotion is top notch. We carry on hugging and kissing in the elevator up till we reach the room and jumped straight to action – raw! After some cleaning, we went out for dinner– strolling, taking pictures like loving couple and continue to a club. It was my first time in a club, fully partaking in its activity. Usually, just a pervy lurker at the corner. We dance, cuddle and kiss through the night up till close. The club seems to cater to local and I don't see any foreigners around. We returned to the hotel and continue with another around of raw session before both of us slept till 9 pm! We went for dinner and to another different club. The club has more younger intoxicated actively dancing people. Here I can see her jealous side where she keeps pulling me closer, distancing me away from other dancing girls and even specifically tips to the bouncer to keep other girls away from me. We returned to hotel after the club close, had another raw round and continue with breakfast at the lounge. I had to leave to catch my flight. Back in the room, she bids me goodbye with BBBJ and lots of kisses. She send me off like a loving wife – hugging, kissing, crying, salam kissing hand (traditional send off in SE Asia) even waited for the taxi to make one round before exiting. I don't usually have any emotional attachment to FL. But this one does stir my heart.

GentileBear
11-02-23, 03:03
IDR15 mil or 1. 5 Mil?

My God $945.00 USD is almost a thousand bucks! Tell me you meant $95 Bucks! Either way sounds like this FL was a special date so that is value right there. Funny you mention Classic Floor #1. I went there once when floor 3 was closed and thought it was the same gig. Got my Guinness beer and was approached by a light skinned lady who wasn't Indo. Politely declined. Went to the corner and just drank while anticipating a MMS would approach me. Never happened that night but I did have fun drinking and watching the locals dance to that hyper dance trance Indo DJ mixed "music. " I just went with the flow but didn't get propositioned more than a few times.

Did you score at Classic at all?

GentileBear
11-02-23, 03:16
Hi gang! This is Zanny again popping in, of the famous map: https://www.google.com/maps/@-6.1942649, 106.6294033,11 z / data=!4 m2!6 m1!1 s1 otTyUwFhqAMfy3 fA8 NDfarH5 RkBEnTA? Entry=ttu.

I will definitely be checking out Sari Aryu for the italian restaurant seating.

As you learnt, without a SIM, you spent way too much on taxis. You could have just used Grab app everywhere.

.Hey Zanny I can't wait for you to check out Sari Aryu! I can't believe the talent they have in that place. I would arrive early around 1 PM noon and sit in that Coffee / Mixed drink place up front by the entrance of Kota Indah. It is like a Starbucks, anyway they have air con and you can watch the girls arrive in on the mopeds and see them come in one by one. By 4 pm I think they had enough for 2 line ups. I would be curious of your opinion of this versus Starmoon. Man I wish I could have stayed there more than 2 weeks.

No Sim. Yeah you're right. BUT I did have an "emergency backup" of paying per day with my normal number for a roaming fee. Was going to mention that I had to do this when I arrived at the airport and scanned the customs QR code. The Jakarta Airport Wifi did not work and I wasn't going to hang around for another hour. So I just used my regular sim. I do remember specifically the customs form stating SIM registration is not required for VOA 30 day arrivals. But indeed having data everywhere would make things much more convenient. Just that God Damned traffic. Somethings got to be done about the traffic.

Roy2920
11-02-23, 04:10
IDR15 mil or 1. 5 Mil?

My God $945.00 USD is almost a thousand bucks! Tell me you meant $95 Bucks! Either way sounds like this FL was a special date so that is value right there. Funny you mention Classic Floor #1. I went there once when floor 3 was closed and thought it was the same gig. Got my Guinness beer and was approached by a light skinned lady who wasn't Indo. Politely declined. Went to the corner and just drank while anticipating a MMS would approach me. Never happened that night but I did have fun drinking and watching the locals dance to that hyper dance trance Indo DJ mixed "music. " I just went with the flow but didn't get propositioned more than a few times.

Did you score at Classic at all?Yes, you heard it right. IDR15 m I. E. USD945. Is it too much? I heard someone paid IDR5 m for an overnight. So, not sure about the going rate for 3 days, two nights LT.

Nope, I didn't score any in floor #1. After a terribly long wait for MMS approach, I actually took the initiative to approach a lone girl sitting in a corner but was declined. Damn that hurts. Declined by FL and ignored by MMS. Hence went for the outcall option in hotel.

Expat American
11-02-23, 06:25
Just returned from Jakarta and had my first LT in my lifetime. Need you guys opinion if IDR15 m for 2 nights I paid to this girl is reasonable.

Back in the room, she bids me goodbye with BBBJ and lots of kisses. She send me off like a loving wife hugging, kissing, crying, salam kissing hand (traditional send off in SE Asia) even waited for the taxi to make one round before exiting. I don't usually have any emotional attachment to FL. But this one does stir my heart.No shit! You just paid her the average wage for 2 months in a couple of nights. I'm sure she was totally in love with you!

Muzungufotsy
11-02-23, 07:52
No shit! You just paid her the average wage for 2 months in a couple of nights. I'm sure she was totally in love with you!Exactly some guys really don't think straight and like to destroy some destinations. Many girls don't even get that in 5 months. Really outrageous!

Nuttin Serious
11-02-23, 10:55
Hi gang! This is Zanny again popping in, of the famous map: https://www.google.com/maps/@-6.1942649, 106.6294033,11 z / data=!4 m2!6 m1!1 s1 otTyUwFhqAMfy3 fA8 NDfarH5 RkBEnTA? Entry=ttu.

I will be back on the ground in a few weeks, so poking my head in here to see if anyone is in sync with my days, to hang out. Or if you are reading this from another country and it's your first time in Jakarta and want to fly to meet me, I am happy to provide a free guided tour.

Does anyone have any updates or amendments to my map before I go? Places I need to check out, places that are closed forever?

Thanks GentileBear for your nice trip report. I will definitely be checking out Sari Aryu for the italian restaurant seating. I guess you were attracted to my mention of BBFS at Starmoon in my trip report, to make a beeline there, haha! This is why it is so important to give back to the forum.

As you learnt, without a SIM, you spent way too much on taxis. You could have just used Grab app everywhere.

I just went around the world using a single eSIM. Check if your phone supports eSIM. I used Airalo global 20 GB and it worked in 12 countries over 6 weeks, for about $100. If you really care, you can drill down and research which network they connect to and compare that to the top network provider in the country. Really only issue is setting the APN.Hey Zanny. Long time fan, read your story on another forum and you inspired me to visit Jak, I've got a couple reports on here if you want to know my take on jakarts, just do a search. Thank you for your insights last year, it was very helpful and inspirational.

FYI in the first trip I had roaming enabled, so I hotspotted my work phone to a private one using vpn and used that. 2nd trip earlier this year I got local sim in my disposable 2nd phone, only issue is it tool am extra 20 minute at thw airport to register. Agsin used vpn for anythong more than grab / bluebird app.

Roy2920
11-02-23, 14:13
Exactly some guys really don't think straight and like to destroy some destinations. Many girls don't even get that in 5 months. Really outrageous!Yup. You probably right. Maybe it was my little head that is calculating. But please do share, how much would you pay if you are engaging this kind of service? She initially quoted IDR20 mil. I don't know the going rate for LT. I figured that as some people paid IDR5 mil for overnight, or IDR1 mil for an hour, then 3 days and 2 nights might be about it.

Muzungufotsy
11-02-23, 19:21
Yup. You probably right. Maybe it was my little head that is calculating. But please do share, how much would you pay if you are engaging this kind of service? She initially quoted IDR20 mil. I don't know the going rate for LT. I figured that as some people paid IDR5 mil for overnight, or IDR1 mil for an hour, then 3 days and 2 nights might be about it.You bet I m right this is Indo not Dubai.

You can get 2 girls for 500 k for ST here so why in hell would you listen to any girl quoting you 20 M? I would have told her to f. K off period.

It means I can get 4 different beautiful girls in one day for 1 M then I sleep very well alone because I don't pay girls to sleep I pay to f. K them.

Delbo1
11-03-23, 05:07
Whats your experiences with 2 girls for 500 k from classic or am I better to choose 1 at a time? I'm thinking 2 girls might not be compatible with each other.

Irish Mongrel
11-03-23, 10:19
Exactly some guys really don't think straight and like to destroy some destinations. Many girls don't even get that in 5 months. Really outrageous!Does it really destroy a destination. I don't think so. She's a photo shoot model who obviously travels (as he met her overseas previously} and has a rich sugar daddy by the sounds of it, so really, when you get to that sort of level, has he paid over the top. You don't really know, until you know exactly what you are dealing with.

One person paying that much is not going to destroy Jakarta, two people paying it is not going to destroy it. I certainly overpaid the first time I was in Jakarta. Hadn't found ISG, and don't remember the scene collapsing. I met with the same girl, 6 months later, paid her the going rate and she didn't complain. They get a good pay day, smile, think lucky me, and move on.

Roy2920 had 2 good days by the sounds of it, good on him, it won't impact my next visit. Even if his girl does flaunt herself in the places I visit - which I doubt as she will not want to be recognized and jeopardize her relationship.

MSanchez
11-03-23, 13:16
Yes, you heard it right. IDR15 m I. E. USD945. Is it too much? I heard someone paid IDR5 m for an overnight. So, not sure about the going rate for 3 days, two nights LT.
Hey Roy, I have to ask where did you find this chick? I was quoted by this one chick on seeking arrangements for 2 days 12 million and I already thought that was insane. But if why'all have deep pockets feel free to PM me if why'all want her seeking username to judge for yourself. I asked her how much for just an afternoon or evening together and she said she doesn't do that because apparently anything less than 24 hours together makes her a prostitute. LOL the mental gymnastics is hilarious, or maybe that's her excuse for a bigger payday. I was able to get her down for 1 day 6 million and granted she looked attractive and upper class but she was not hot enough for that much, not to mention the sheer principle of paying that much would ruin the experience for me. There's only about 3 instagram hotties and maybe a pornstar or two that I would shell that kind of money out for. The cuties in Classic were arguably hotter than her. And don't forget she expects you to foot the bill to take her out eating or shopping, etc. I'm sure Roy's tab at the end of 3 days with his MILF was another 10 or 15 million alone from the restaurants and clubs. No wonder she bought him a shirt and welcoming snack.

Also I didn't know Indonesia has their own great firewall either so I used a 100% free vpn from ProtonVPN that worked perfectly fine for me. Not only was this site and any porn sites blocked, they even blocked reddit ffs.

JSmithJ88
11-03-23, 13:58
Yup. You probably right. Maybe it was my little head that is calculating. But please do share, how much would you pay if you are engaging this kind of service? She initially quoted IDR20 mil. I don't know the going rate for LT. I figured that as some people paid IDR5 mil for overnight, or IDR1 mil for an hour, then 3 days and 2 nights might be about it.Some background info on this chick and a photo would provide much needed clarity for your scenario.

Ie where you met her, how much you paid before, how old is she etc etc.

I don't understand the need to pay this large amount considering a ST can be had for 400 k or less.

LT at classic or kota can be had for roughly 2 M, with some of that going to the bar.

Majority of those chicks are young and raw sex is not uncommon.

Bacchuss
11-03-23, 14:07
Does it really destroy a destination. I don't think so. She's a photo shoot model who obviously travels (as he met her overseas previously} and has a rich sugar daddy by the sounds of it, so really, when you get to that sort of level, has he paid over the top. You don't really know, until you know exactly what you are dealing with.

One person paying that much is not going to destroy Jakarta, two people paying it is not going to destroy it. I certainly overpaid the first time I was in Jakarta. Hadn't found ISG, and don't remember the scene collapsing. I met with the same girl, 6 months later, paid her the going rate and she didn't complain. They get a good pay day, smile, think lucky me, and move on.

Roy2920 had 2 good days by the sounds of it, good on him, it won't impact my next visit. Even if his girl does flaunt herself in the places I visit - which I doubt as she will not want to be recognized and jeopardize her relationship.Local little celebrities can quote very big price, you can even fuck TV show actress, Miss Indo maybe, but it's reserved for big business men, or higher politics men. If you have that kind of money, why not, we only live once. But If you make the fist step, talking to "normal" girls, you can have wonderful, perfect and, almost, innocent girls for less money, and with luck, even have true feelings. For this budget you can also go to Travel Hotel and fuck different young ladies all night, 2 or 3 in the same time, it will be also a good memorable experience.

Banana Boi
11-03-23, 19:54
Whats your experiences with 2 girls for 500 k from classic or am I better to choose 1 at a time? .It's common knowledge that unless you're lucky it's better to take 1 girl at a time at Classic and Travel. However, if you have a fantasy of DFK with one girl and another rides you cowboy then go for it, it's cheap.

Delbo1
11-04-23, 01:01
Whats your opinions on KTV places in Jakarta an absolute waste of money? It turns out you can have sex with the girl bit the cost is 4 million is that right?

Delbo1
11-04-23, 01:02
What's your opinions on karaoke places o e fork told me it's 4 million to do that and include a girl for 3 hours.

Hilo77
11-04-23, 03:28
Exactly some guys really don't think straight and like to destroy some destinations. Many girls don't even get that in 5 months. Really outrageous!Roy2920 isn't destroying anything, he's paying the market rate for what he got. He can afford it, good luck to him, not my scene but each to their own.

Look, here's the basics, every bloke in Jakarta is screwing around, every single one of them. The ojek drivers and vegetable sellers are screwing around, the ojek drivers with the street girls they pick up in Falatehan and the veggie sellers are screwing around with the pembantus they meet in the morning. The sums exchanged vary according to mileage.

Then there are the chairmen of major corporations, senior police generals, the celebrity lawyers we see on TV, cabinet ministers. Who are they screwing around with? Let me tell you, it ain't the pembantus (well, maybe if they need a quickie and the wife is out) or streetwalkers, and nor is it the girls in Classic or Starmoon, or even in BATS or CJs. They are nailing the top models, the sinetron artists, the members of popular girl bands, and they are paying top dollar for it. These girls are getting houses, apartments, Hermes bags, the works, why? Because to these guys they are worth it, they give them the undying devotion displayed by Roy's bird, and more especially they know how to keep their mouths shut (obviously not when they are required to open their mouths, but you get my drift).

You will see these women in the top private schools in South Jakarta, they will arrive in BMWs and Mercedes. They will be immaculately turned out to see little Abigail or Justyn perform in the school show, they will have everything but husbands or any visible means of support, but we all know how they got there.

That is the market that Roy2920 briefly tapped into for a weekend he won't forget. His money, his choice.

Now for the past eleventy hundred pages of this forum all we have talked about is Classic, occasionally Star Moon and BATS. Trust me, not only are we not even in the same market, we're not even in the same universe as the model / sugar baby Roy hooked up with. The girls working in the meat markets of North Jakarta might dream of hooking up with some Chinese guy whose parents own a shophouse and become his selingkuan, but they ain't even breathing the same atmosphere as the top-notch actresses / models / whatever that are doing the circuits of Jakarta's super rich.

And neither are we. Don't worry about what Roy paid, he didn't so why should you?

Amadeuss
11-04-23, 08:25
Roy2920 isn't destroying anything, he's paying the market rate for what he got. ?Your assumption is wrong: he did not pay the market rate but he paid it because he was uninformed. If he would have studied the forum he would be a wise men in regards what's the "market rate".

Yes, there are bxxches with sugar daddies, enabling them a luxury lifestyle. Let it be.

For us visiting mongers the field of nice girls is still huge in Jakarta. And you may have experienced it also before: a young girl, fresh from the farm, may give you a much better girl friend experience for little money then a high paid, surgery padded luxury lady with mileage.

Menteng
11-04-23, 11:32
Does it really destroy a destination. I don't think so. She's a photo shoot model who obviously travels (as he met her overseas previously} and has a rich sugar daddy by the sounds of it, so really, when you get to that sort of level, has he paid over the top. You don't really know, until you know exactly what you are dealing with.
In my Club 27 (who remembers?) days, there was a portfolio there with photo's of sinetron extras and models who worked for Honda and (I think) Pepsodent. There was an all in package of US $ 1000,00: one of those girls, from Saturday afternoon till Sunday before dark, a villa with swimming pool in Puncak, snacks and softdrinks and beer.

And who remembers the bordello of Hartono near jln Prapanca where 3 to 5 juta (in those days! Was not extra ordinary?

So, what Roy paid is not that exaggerated if the girl was a model of some sorts.

Hilo77
11-05-23, 03:45
Your assumption is wrong: he did not pay the market rate but he paid it because he was uninformed. If he would have studied the forum he would be a wise men in regards what's the "market rate".

Yes, there are bxxches with sugar daddies, enabling them a luxury lifestyle. Let it be.

For us visiting mongers the field of nice girls is still huge in Jakarta. And you may have experienced it also before: a young girl, fresh from the farm, may give you a much better girl friend experience for little money then a high paid, surgery padded luxury lady with mileage.I made no assumptions. I stuck to stated facts.

The woman is a model, she is a selingkuan of a wealthy businessman, she travels overseas, she has her own business.

What you pay for her is not what you pay for a girl in Classic or for a sweet young thing just up from Sukabumi and working as an SPG selling health drinks in a supermarket.

Neither of them affects the other's business, in the same way McDonalds prices are unaffected by the price of ground beef patties in Salt Bae.

Ya pays yer money, and ya takes yer choice.

HotDog666
11-05-23, 12:31
Wow- this should surely be nominated for reports of distinction thread? I am booking my flight.

One question: do these girls or anywhere else do rimming? I asked the question before but got no replies. Surely I can't be alone in enjoying this fetish?


Firstly, the Jakarta map didn't work properly.

Delbo1
11-05-23, 13:07
Map doesn't work.


Firstly, the Jakarta map didn't work properly..

JennyKk
11-05-23, 19:29
I can't figure out the structure of Kaskus. I found some shops but only ads, some are few years ago. Can't find any reviews. Did I look at the wrong place? Is there any local review forum?


Firstly, the Jakarta map didn't work properly.

Papae Noel
11-06-23, 05:33
Not sure if you are extremely lucky but from my experience:

1) No in room spa available in both of these hotels anymore.

2) Totally clean experience. No extras.

But yeah their therapists are very beautiful.Early this year, 2023. - stayed at JW Marriott. Definitely recommend this hotel. Decided to try massage, not expecting anything. Immediately, the girl takes towel off and became rather adventurous with her hands. Of course you have privacy in the massage cubicle, but you have to keep the noise down. Don't remember much about the massage. Tip 1. 5 Juta. Never looked into possibility of room service.

LE Meridien, stayed two times in late 2022. Went 3 times for massage, which was very good. No evidence whatsoever of extra service. Don't think room service is available, but I may be wrong, or maybe it wasn't available then.

Hotel Vertu Harmoni, on Hayam Wuruk (Central Jakarta) - early 2023, stayed for several days. Tried a massage with a great massage therapist. Strangely enough, I did not ask for any extras. I want to go back to this hotel before this year is over and see if her massage service is available in my room.

Admin. Maybe there should be a Jakarta hotel massage sub forum.

PIpimp
11-06-23, 10:08
Firstly, the Jakarta map didn't work properly...Me and my friend was in Jakarta for 30 days and couldn't find shit there but that Classics place. I hated Jakarta because we couldn't find nothing. If they have places like this, I would visit again. Where do I go about finding all these types of places? Are they hidden?

Kopi Hitam
11-06-23, 10:46
Blow Art is a good find. It's a shame its locations are so far out of town in Kelapa Gading and Alam Sutera.

Any BJ specialists in more reasonable locations?

A bit tired of independently determining CIM willingness from the randoms.


Firstly, the Jakarta map didn't work properly....

Kopi Hitam
11-06-23, 10:47
I can't figure out the structure of Kaskus. I found some shops but only ads, some are few years ago. Can't find any reviews. Did I look at the wrong place? Is there any local review forum?I agree Kaskus is a nightmare to navigate. Links to links to links to links.

Banana Boi
11-06-23, 13:19
Admin. Maybe there should be a Jakarta hotel massage sub forum.Maybe there is.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2450-Jakarta-Hotels

GentileBear
11-06-23, 17:39
I hated Jakarta because we couldn't find nothing.Where do I go about finding all these types of places? Are they hidden?I feel you! Jakarta is so spread out and along with the Traffic it is daunting. Like Zanny's map can help a lot. But it would be nice if some of the GoJek's or BlueBirds knew more than Classic.

NewImage
11-06-23, 22:35
Maybe there is.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2450-Jakarta-HotelsOk I'm a lazy little shit. When I go OS I stay withing walking distance of the " establishments that cater for the adult male".

So if you had to stay in Jakarta is there a ground zero hotel that puts you in walking distance of available options? Or is it not that simple?

Seems to me that with Jakarta's traffic hassle's its more of a you come to me scenario MO via social media would work better.

Yes I know this should be in the Jakarta Hotel thread but see the first comment.

Appreciate any responses.

D Cups
11-06-23, 23:02
Ok I'm a lazy little shit. When I go OS I stay withing walking distance of the " establishments that cater for the adult male".

So if you had to stay in Jakarata is there a ground zero hotel that puts you in walking distance of available options? Or is it not that simple?

Seems to me that with Jakarta's traffic hassle's its more of a you come to me scenario MO via social media would work better.

Yes I know this should be in the Jakarta Hotel thread but see the first comment.

Appreciate any responses.I always go to Classic Hotel.

Banana Boi
11-06-23, 23:05
Ok I'm a lazy little shit. When I go OS I stay withing walking distance of the " establishments that cater for the adult male".

So if you had to stay in Jakarata is there a ground zero hotel that puts you in walking distance of available options? Or is it not that simple?Unfortunately not unless your definition of walking distance is more than 1.5 to 2 km. If so, Classic, Travel, Malio, Kota Indah are possibly walkable but not sure why you'd want to walk. in poorly maintained sidewalks and often on streets. Bluebird taxi time between the locations is not too long and definitely cheap.

Kelapa Gading is very far. New Medika is one huge traffic jam and far the other way. CJ's and BATS is fairly far yet another direction. Ruko Robinson is far in yet another direction. In other words, if you want to hit different places you're going to end up riding taxis and sometimes for extended periods. However, some of these bars are located inside hotels or have hotels nearby.

JennyKk
11-07-23, 02:34
It feels different in Jakarta compared to most place in Thailand. Seems st are much more common. So any good options for morning and early afternoon action? Only massage parlor? Any place recommend?

PIpimp
11-07-23, 11:52
Blow Art is a good find. It's a shame its locations are so far out of town in Kelapa Gading and Alam Sutera.

Any BJ specialists in more reasonable locations?

A bit tired of independently determining CIM willingness from the randoms.Is Blow Art the name of an actual shop / s or that's the name of the area? I got to find this place!!

Offshore Swell
11-08-23, 02:55
This little apocalyptic scene is your beloved train tracks. As OS took the photo one of them scurried up the embankment holding a chair and out through the hole in the wall. Like a rat with a nut.

There's nothing to cry about here folks, It was a disgusting dump but my god were there some hotties to be found.

RIP Gang Royal Gedong.

JennyKk
11-08-23, 06:03
Is Blow Art the name of an actual shop / s or that's the name of the area? I got to find this place!!It is the shop name. But they only allow to pick girls via ipad. Be aware. In same area, kc is much much better quality wise with 2 x price.

ShagTownBoi69
11-08-23, 11:51
Is Blow Art the name of an actual shop / s or that's the name of the area? I got to find this place!!Yes, their tagline is: The Art of The Blow.

HotDog666
11-08-23, 15:22
It is the shop name. But they only allow to pick girls via ipad. Be aware. In same area, kc is much much better quality wise with 2 x price.Dude, what is "kc"? Not everyone knows these acronyms that you assume they do- LOL.

Muzungufotsy
11-08-23, 17:57
It is the shop name. But they only allow to pick girls via ipad. Be aware.I hate that shit. I want to choose from real girls not photoshopped pics.

GentileBear
11-08-23, 19:23
Dude, what is "kc"? Not everyone knows these acronyms that you assume they do- LOL.Kings Cross.

NewImage
11-09-23, 03:23
Hi gang..Much appreciated.

NI.

JonLost
11-09-23, 03:59
Hi gang,

Firstly we are going to have fun and report back because now I have two guys who want to meet up first week of December...Hi bro I'm keen to meet up early Dec.

BenderOver
11-09-23, 09:07
Ok I'm a lazy little shit. When I go OS I stay withing walking distance of the " establishments that cater for the adult male".

So if you had to stay in Jakarata is there a ground zero hotel that puts you in walking distance of available options? Or is it not that simple?

Seems to me that with Jakarta's traffic hassle's its more of a you come to me scenario MO via social media would work better.

Yes I know this should be in the Jakarta Hotel thread but see the first comment.

Appreciate any responses.Reading this is simply frustrating and baffles me to no end. While there's choking air pollution and constipated traffic, Jakarta is a city that's rich in history, selection of foods, great economic deals, awesome people. And you want to stay in a place that's walking distance from the greatest plethora of pussy you can render? I get that you want the best sex-vacation ever, but just find yourself a nice 3. 5 to 4 star hotel that's in the rewards program you like the most that's somewhere around or between Thamrin and Monas.

Bluebird to where you want to go, and skip the walking. Walking sucks. It's hot and humid outside, and it's rainy season now. Mosquitos are fucking out of control. Half the streets are flooded with monsoon like rain and overflowed sewer lines. The sidewalk is typically uneven slabs of concrete covering the open air sewer trough. A typical walk gets you covered in sweat, bitten by mosquitos, and a couple of twisted ankles.

Menteng
11-09-23, 11:59
At HotDog666 - Rimming is definitely on the menu, it was Blow Art or another similar place in the same business park where she performed this maneuver on me. If we could find out the slang "Black Kiss" equivalent then that would be easier. But at the reception area where they show you the iPad with the photos of girls, you would just have to use Google Translate to straight out say "show me only girls the will lick my ass". You've come all this way, don't be shy now.

Black kiss? Beso Negro!, the magic words in Medellin!

Ask for "mandi kucing total" when in Indonesia.

Pronunciation: mandi "a" like "a" in marble: "I" like "e" in "me".

Kucing, "you" like "you" in "use", "see" like "ch" in "cheap", "I" like "e" in "me".

Or just copy those words to your mobile phone.

Don't forget to ad "total" otherwise they might only lick everywhere but the salad.

HotDog666
11-09-23, 13:45
Awesome responses, guys.

I'm booking my flight now- Jakarta seems like Mongers' paradise. LOL.


Black kiss? Beso Negro!, the magic words in Medellin!

Ask for "mandi kucing total" when in Indonesia.

Pronunciation: mandi "a" like "a" in marble: "I" like "e" in "me".

Kucing, "you" like "you" in "use", "see" like "ch" in "cheap", "I" like "e" in "me".

Or just copy those words to your mobile phone.

Don't forget to ad "total" otherwise they might only lick everywhere but the salad.

Betong
11-09-23, 13:53
A typical walk gets you covered in sweat, bitten by mosquitos, and a couple of twisted ankles.You're making me nostalgic. What a town! LOL.

Wet Nose
11-09-23, 15:55
Bluebird to where you want to go, and skip the walking. Walking sucks. It's hot and humid outside, and it's rainy season now. Mosquitos are fucking out of control. Half the streets are flooded with monsoon like rain and overflowed sewer lines. The sidewalk is typically uneven slabs of concrete covering the open air sewer trough. A typical walk gets you covered in sweat, bitten by mosquitos, and a couple of twisted ankles.On my last trip to Jakarta, I was asking the hotel concierge how to get to some shopping mall. It looked walkable on the map but when I said "How long for a walk?

Her eyes widened in surprise ". Walk? Like she really didn't believe any visitor would want to walk LOL.

Goferring
11-09-23, 17:50
On my last trip to Jakarta, I was asking the hotel concierge how to get to some shopping mall. It looked walkable on the map but when I said "How long for a walk?

Her eyes widened in surprise ". Walk? Like she really didn't believe any visitor would want to walk LOL.Next time tell an Indonesian you are heading out to lie in the sun to get a tan. That elicits a similar response to wanting to walk around Jakarta.

Crazy foreigners. 😜.

Irish Mongrel
11-09-23, 23:11
Bluebird to where you want to go, and skip the walking. Walking sucks. It's hot and humid outside, and it's rainy season now. Mosquitos are fucking out of control. Half the streets are flooded with monsoon like rain and overflowed sewer lines. The sidewalk is typically uneven slabs of concrete covering the open air sewer trough. A typical walk gets you covered in sweat, bitten by mosquitos, and a couple of twisted ankles.Only walked the streets in Jakarta once. Senayan Plaza back to the Mulia Hotel, not even 1 km. Ended up like the Pied Piper with a stream of street urchins behind me, and a rather perplexed security guard who literally ran across the road to free me from the mass and get me back to the hotel. As we crossed the road he looked at me confused and basically said "Pak, you don't walk around here". The thing I probably hated most about Jakarta, I'm a bit of a walker when I travel. Jakarta's footpaths, and Indonesia as a whole, just aren't designed. Need good hiking boots to protect those ankles. Now with Grab being so easy to get, I'm almost tempted to get one to just cross the road:-the.

GentileBear
11-09-23, 23:54
When I was going to Classic coming from Ibis Harmoni. And a tad bit Tipsy. The drivers would cross the busy roads and I would think WTF have space aliens landed? Thank God I am in a Taxi and not walking to Classic. These Space Aliens might get me. Metallic Silver Space Invaders! Zombie Bodies in Silver holding paint cans asking for money. You got to see it to believe it. Solid Silver from the eyes to the toes.

Delbo1
11-10-23, 01:12
What does OC refer to I see it mentioned a few times.

JonLost
11-10-23, 04:17
Kings Cross.Reading through the forum found not much info on king cross.

How close is the kc club set up compared to malio?

For eg. Malio dancers with see through fishnet LD at 60 k, BJ available at 20 or 30 LDs. The quality of the WL and dancers comparable to malio?

Zanny
11-10-23, 05:02
JonLost, if you would like to organize personal plans, please purchase a subscription so you can use the private message system.

Marky1
11-10-23, 05:23
Ok I'm a lazy little shit. When I go OS I stay withing walking distance of the " establishments that cater for the adult male".

So if you had to stay in Jakarata is there a ground zero hotel that puts you in walking distance of available options? Or is it not that simple?

Seems to me that with Jakarta's traffic hassle's its more of a you come to me scenario MO via social media would work better.

Yes I know this should be in the Jakarta Hotel thread but see the first comment.

Appreciate any responses.There is no problem staying near the establishments, although if it's your first time there Central Jakarta is a good compromise since you will find more things to do during the day, in all likelihood you are going to venture out of west / north Jakarta during the day anyway. There is also no problem walking in Jakarta it's not Bangkok or Singapore, but not really any different to any less developed city in south-east Asia. Middle class and above Indonesians are very unhealthy and extremely lazy people for the most part, so don't listen to them. I'd avoid south and east Jakarta they are are of little interest to a tourist unless you are into boring malls, little street life. Bars and restaurants in their own compounds.

HotDog666
11-10-23, 11:39
I've checked the ad for the aptly named blow art and it is a little confusing. They talk about 240 k for base price and "tip" of 1 juta. I think that's 1 million. Is that not way above market prices?


Yes, their tagline is: The Art of The Blow.

Member #3088
11-10-23, 12:44
You're making me nostalgic. What a town! LOL.Long time resident, I've walked here and there, to work and back, etc, and enjoy the sights and sounds. BUT. The air pollution is severe. Jakarta's biggest drawback, other than the traffic. Choose your poison -- sit in a taxi forever gazing out the window, or be part of (shortened) life walking.

Banana Boi
11-10-23, 20:33
Long time resident, I've walked here and there, to work and back, etc, and enjoy the sights and sounds. BUT. The air pollution is severe. Jakarta's biggest drawback, other than the traffic. Choose your poison -- sit in a taxi forever gazing out the window, or be part of (shortened) life walking.I know 2 guys in their mid 40's who went to work in Jakarta and both were diagnosed with Bronchitis within a few months of arriving. They had company taxis too and didn't walk outside much.


Reading through the forum found not much info on king cross. How close is the kc club set up compared to malio?

For eg. Malio dancers with see through fishnet LD at 60 k, BJ available at 20 or 30 LDs. The quality of the WL and dancers comparable to malio?

King Cross is only one of the bars in Kelapa Gading so we refer to the entire Komplek as Kelapa Gading. From Malio at least 30 minutes by taxi and can easily be over an hour during the hours you likely want to go.

By Malio dancers do you mean upstairs or downstairs? I never remember the name but I believe Malioboro is upstairs and Malio Club is downstairs. There were also other bars on multiple confusing floors in the place. I haven't been to any of the venues in Malio Hotel since pre-COVID but I recall the LD to be much more than 60k, at least downstairs in Malio Club. At least you get a bit of a lap dance with your drinks but if you're on a budget this is not the place for you. That 30-50 drinks for a BJ thing is ridiculous when you can go to Classic or Travel and get FS for the price of a few drinks.
However, some of the dancers in Malio club were mind blowing but most on par with some of the other places around Jakarta.

Setzer
11-11-23, 04:03
Reading through the forum found not much info on king cross.

How close is the kc club set up compared to malio?

For eg. Malio dancers with see through fishnet LD at 60 k, BJ available at 20 or 30 LDs. The quality of the WL and dancers comparable to malio?Personally, I think malio still have the best dancers in Jakarta (in terms of quantity / quality). While for kc, their LDs and WLs cost slightly cheaper as compared to malio. (can't really recall the prices exactly as the last time I went was almost a year ago).

So unless I'm staying near kelapa gading or I'm sick of going to spas / clubs in old town Jakarta. I wouldn't really bother going to kelapa gading.

Setzer
11-11-23, 04:24
By Malio dancers do you mean upstairs or downstairs? I never remember the name but I believe Malioboro is upstairs and Malio Club is downstairs. There were also other bars on multiple confusing floors in the place. Normally I think people refer to the upstairs venue as malio spa, while the one downstairs is actually malio club (which can be accessible via the side entrance).


I haven't been to any of the venues in Malio Hotel since pre-COVID but I recall the LD to be much more than 60k, at least downstairs in Malio Club. At least you get a bit of a lap dance with your drinks but if you're on a budget this is not the place for you. LDs cost about 65 k / ea (including tax) now iirc.

This is not the place if you can't withstand pressure from the dancers (who will let you feel them all over just to get you to buy them more LDs) / surrounded by 10 dancers (getting suffocated by boobs and strong perfume) / letting small head take control.

I have tried controlling my budget at malio club before, only buying like maybe 5 LDs total for a dancer from 11 pm-2 am. But total damage is still pretty hefty, entrance fee + 5 LDs + my own drinks + misc tips. Think I probably spent close to 2 mil idr.


That 30-50 drinks for a BJ thing is ridiculous when you can go to Classic or Travel and get FS for the price of a few drinks.
However, some of the dancers in Malio club were mind blowing but most on par with some of the other places around Jakarta.For dancer to BJ you at the 2nd floor of malio club (sofa with curtains), I remember it was 20 LDs + 1 mil idr cash or 30 LDs. If 30-50 LDs, that should be price for FS 1 hour /1 shot.

Unless you are going for the atmosphere, I think it makes more sense to take a malio dancer back overnight for 2 mil idr (negotiate direct with the dancer but she will only come to your room after she end work around 2. 30 am-3 am).

JonLost
11-11-23, 05:32
I know 2 guys in their mid 40's who went to work in Jakarta and both were diagnosed with Bronchitis within a few months of arriving. They had company taxis too and didn't walk outside much.



King Cross is only one of the bars in Kelapa Gading so we refer to the entire Komplek as Kelapa Gading. From Malio at least 30 minutes by taxi and can easily be over an hour during the hours you likely want to go.

By Malio dancers do you mean upstairs or downstairs? I never remember the name but I believe Malioboro is upstairs and Malio Club is downstairs. There were also other bars on multiple confusing floors in the place. I haven't been to any of the venues in Malio Hotel since pre-COVID but I recall the LD to be much more than 60k, at least downstairs in Malio Club. At least you get a bit of a lap dance with your drinks but if you're on a budget this is not the place for you. That 30-50 drinks for a BJ thing is ridiculous when you can go to Classic or Travel and get FS for the price of a few drinks.
However, some of the dancers in Malio club were mind blowing but most on par with some of the other places around Jakarta.I went to malio club a couple of months ago. As you walk in you will see there is this malio spa building on your right. Afaik this spa is you get in, pay entry charges for facilities use, and girls available for selection. I never went in so unsure how it actually works inside.

Further down the spa building is malio club on the right as well, it has two levels, ground is where you enter and there is sitting areas with a stage at the middle. Another level is sort of mezzanine level, can see the stage from up there, more private and with partitions with curtains to do whatever you need to do. No differentiation between the 2 floors at malio club, is it under one unit with single entry and exit. Some of the hottest girls you can find in Jakarta, although my sample size is small. Only been to some bars like classic, travel, some ktvs and spas.

Thus my questions on king cross quality and prices and how things work over there.

Banana Boi
11-12-23, 00:29
I think it makes more sense to take a malio dancer back overnight for 2 mil idr (negotiate direct with the dancer but she will only come to your room after she end work around 2. 30 am-3 am).Wait, I can take a Malio dancer home for 2 million? That changes everything next time I'm in Jakarta! Some of them are super hot.

JonLost
11-12-23, 00:44
Personally, I think malio still have the best dancers in Jakarta (in terms of quantity / quality). While for kc, their LDs and WLs cost slightly cheaper as compared to malio. (can't really recall the prices exactly as the last time I went was almost a year ago).

So unless I'm staying near kelapa gading or I'm sick of going to spas / clubs in old town Jakarta. I wouldn't really bother going to kelapa gading.Hi bro, is kc set up similarly to malio? As in the dancers go around naked for you to feel all over them in exchange for LDs.

Offshore Swell
11-12-23, 02:51
Thus my questions on king cross quality and prices and how things work over there.KC price 390,000 RP possibly a happy hour price, not sure.

Selection like anywhere, some good, some not good although this can be reversed when you ask the Indonesian next to you who has a preference for light skinned fatties It's subjective!

Mama's at KC can have some attitude. KC has the distinction for OS of being the only place in Jakarta he has never failed to extract BBFS and as recently as 5 days ago. Rooms are quite nice. If KC not to your taste you can go to Sumo in next alley on one side or MTR II in next alley on the other side.

Hope that helps!

Delbo1
11-12-23, 22:49
What is OC?


KC price 390,000 RP.possibly a happy hour price, not sure.

Selection like anywhere, some good, some not good although this can be reversed when you ask the Indonesian next to you who has a preference for light skinned fatties It's subjective!

Mama's at KC can have some attitude. KC has the distinction for OS of being the only place in Jakarta he has never failed to extract BBFS and as recently as 5 days ago. Rooms are quite nice. If KC not to your taste you can go to Sumo in next alley on one side or MTR II in next alley on the other side.

Hope that helps!

BKKguru
11-13-23, 10:51
What is OC?Bro,
It is good you are reading every word....just read a little slowly!! It is OS, not OC.

~BKKguru

Banana Boi
11-14-23, 14:47
Is the Presidential election on February 14 going to damper the fun factor of Jakarta, before or after the election?

Delbo1
11-17-23, 01:40
So what does OS mean?

DzikaBomba
11-17-23, 22:13
I'm considering visiting Jakarta, because I never were there, but heard only positive things.

But I need to have BBFS. So I would be interested what your Experiences are like in Jakarta?

Is it easy to get like in PH?

How about places like classic? Can I get BBFS there? Can I talk about that with the Mamasan?

What are the best places to get BBFS in Jakarta?

Irish Mongrel
11-18-23, 03:00
So what does OS mean?Hint: O = Offshore, S = ?

SeaTraveler
11-21-23, 20:51
I'm considering visiting Jakarta, because I never were there, but heard only positive things.

But I need to have BBFS. So I would be interested what your Experiences are like in Jakarta?

How about places like classic? Can I get BBFS there? Can I talk about that with the Mamasan?

What are the best places to get BBFS in Jakarta?I always dealt with FL from places like BATS / CJS and had a high success rate in the past. But not always.

GentileBear
11-21-23, 22:55
How about places like classic? Can I get BBFS there? Can I talk about that with the Mamasan?

?Hello DzikaBomba,

Yes is the answer to your first question. Second Question - No I wouldn't discuss that with the Mamasan. Also. You will NOT want to take the Mamasan's offer of 2 girls in the room. BBFS is best discussed with the lady on an individual basis.

Also - if you RTFF you will see I asked about this myself along with others who have asked the same question over and over - and maybe results will vary but what I posted is what my experience was just last month.

BenderOver
11-22-23, 00:25
Hi bro, is kc set up similarly to malio? As in the dancers go around naked for you to feel all over them in exchange for LDs.No, it feels. Ore like a smaller classic. First floor is quiet lounge with pool tables and not a lot of customers, about 10 girls varying quality waiting in the corner. Upper floor is loud dance are where girls are frequently lining up. Lots more customers and about 30 girls or more. No lapdancing that I saw but you get to hang out and sit with them upon selection.

Adindas
11-25-23, 02:16
So what does OS mean?Reread post #16988 OS=OffshoreSwell.

Adindas
11-25-23, 02:40
Yes, you heard it right. IDR15 m I. E. USD945. Is it too much? I heard someone paid IDR5 m for an overnight. So, not sure about the going rate for 3 days, two nights LT.

Nope, I didn't score any in floor #1. After a terribly long wait for MMS approach, I actually took the initiative to approach a lone girl sitting in a corner but was declined. Damn that hurts. Declined by FL and ignored by MMS. Hence went for the outcall option in hotel.

It is your own money you are spending. So by the end of day your opinion matter, you like and you do not feel cheated, not too much for you and then good for you.

But you are asking opinion. Rp15m could be a three month salary for average people in Indonesia. Unless you know her very well that she is a model, you see her on the TV, Popular Magazine, Soap opera, etc draw your own own conclusion. If you get it via apps, social media what sometimes happen is that you are initially communicating with the agent (pimp), where half of your money is going to the agent.

Also keep in mind you have not compared it with other places such as Classic Hotel, Kings Cross, etc. You might even fine a better if you look for it.

Kopi Hitam
11-25-23, 10:59
Hakone Spa in Serpong looks to offer something different from the usual knock-shops about town.

Themed rooms are available for those with a fetish for certain locations.

A standard office, a jail and doctor's office are a few of the room options.

Anyone checked it out? A bit of a hike, but could be worth the trip purely for investigative purposes.

JennyKk
11-25-23, 19:20
KC price 390,000 RP.possibly a happy hour price, not sure.

Selection like anywhere, some good, some not good although this can be reversed when you ask the Indonesian next to you who has a preference for light skinned fatties It's subjective!

Mama's at KC can have some attitude. KC has the distinction for OS of being the only place in Jakarta he has never failed to extract BBFS and as recently as 5 days ago. Rooms are quite nice. If KC not to your taste you can go to Sumo in next alley on one side or MTR II in next alley on the other side.

Hope that helps!Kc has multiple tiers, I remember 390 k is the lowest which only few ladies sitting on the sofa and playing cell phones. You can ask mamasan bring down the ladies, which has higher price tag but much better quality. Upstairs is too dark to figure out the look.

Medellin65
11-26-23, 16:30
If possible I would like some info.

1) Is 1/1.2 million enough for a decent LT?

2) what are the areas with the highest concentration of places to fish for girls?

3) do you have any suggestions for a good girl friendly hotel where you can bring girls without problems?

4) Are there strip clubs or just clubs with live music?

And finally.

5) are there massages with FS? Which ones and at what costs?

Any help and suggestions are welcome and welcome. I have planned my first trip to Jakarta early 2024. I am an expert in South East Asia, I have traveled to Vietnam (Saigon), many times to Thai (Bangkok) and many times to Phils (Angeles City), but Indonesia is completely new to me. My budget for 2 weeks of holiday will be around 150/170 euros per day (flight and hotel already paid for), I hope it is enough for a "full immersion" in Jakarta xxx.

Menteng
11-28-23, 10:49
If possible I would like some info.

1) Is 1/1.2 million enough for a decent LT?

2) what are the areas with the highest concentration of places to fish for girls?

3) do you have any suggestions for a good girl friendly hotel where you can bring girls without problems?

4) Are there strip clubs or just clubs with live music?

And finally.

5) are there massages with FS? Which ones and at what costs?

Any help and suggestions are welcome and welcome. I have planned my first trip to Jakarta early 2024. I am an expert in South East Asia, I have traveled to Vietnam (Saigon), many times to Thai (Bangkok) and many times to Phils (Angeles City), but Indonesia is completely new to me. My budget for 2 weeks of holiday will be around 150/170 euros per day (flight and hotel already paid for), I hope it is enough for a "full immersion" in Jakarta xxx.Ok, let me take this one for the group: RTFF!

Joe Brooklyn
11-29-23, 00:41
I'm booking my hotel in Jakarta as I type this. What's the best neighborhood to book it in to have access to the brothels and transportation?