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Offshore Swell
11-29-23, 02:24
If possible I would like some info.
1) Is 1/1.2 million enough for a decent LT?
2) what are the areas with the highest concentration of places to fish for girls?
3) do you have any suggestions for a good girl friendly hotel where you can bring girls without problems?
4) Are there strip clubs or just clubs with live music?
And finally.
5) are there massages with FS? Which ones and at what costs?
Any help and suggestions are welcome and welcome. I have planned my first trip to Jakarta early 2024. I am an expert in South East Asia, I have traveled to Vietnam (Saigon), many times to Thai (Bangkok) and many times to Phils (Angeles City), but Indonesia is completely new to me. My budget for 2 weeks of holiday will be around 150/170 euros per day (flight and hotel already paid for), I hope it is enough for a "full immersion" in Jakarta xxx.Amazing!.
Indonesia is a very complex destination sir. Based on your questions, we are fearful that you may be disappointed if you come here. To maximise your enjoyment of your holiday, we would suggest to visit again, those countries of which you are already an expert.
Banana Boi
11-29-23, 04:54
I'm booking my hotel in Jakarta as I type this. What's the best neighborhood to book it in to have access to the brothels and transportation?Wrong thread but.....
Mangga Besar if you want the brothels. Any hotel for transportation. Lots of taxis waiting at every hotel. Learn how to say your hotel name the way an Indo person would say it in English.
Joe Brooklyn
11-29-23, 17:17
Wrong thread but.....
Mangga Besar if you want the brothels. Any hotel for transportation. Lots of taxis waiting at every hotel. Learn how to say your hotel name the way an Indo person would say it in English.Thanks.
What about girl-friendly hotels? I've read that 90% of them in Jakarta, Bali and Bandung have no problem allowing you to bring a girl into your room to stay overnight, but that article was from 2015. Is this still the case? If not, what are the guest-friendly hotels? I'm looking to spend up to $150/ night.
Hakone Spa in Serpong looks to offer something different from the usual knock-shops about town.
Themed rooms are available for those with a fetish for certain locations.
A standard office, a jail and doctor's office are a few of the room options.
Anyone checked it out? A bit of a hike, but could be worth the trip purely for investigative purposes.I've not checked that one out, because it is very far from the tourist zones. However I've recently added a place to my Jakarta map [Deleted by Admin] under a new section called PIK Venues:
Red Ruby Spa & Lounge.
Open 2022.10 am to 11 pm. Theme Rooms! (extra 100 k): Prison, Airplane First Class, Hospital, Classroom. FS 90 m is 900 k in theme room or Platinum service? 1050 k, Diamond 1450 k.
I'm on the ground in Jakarta in a few days!
Thanks.
What about girl-friendly hotels? I've read that 90% of them in Jakarta, Bali and Bandung have no problem allowing you to bring a girl into your room to stay overnight, but that article was from 2015. Is this still the case? If not, what are the guest-friendly hotels? I'm looking to spend up to $150/ night.You would have to search out the Sharia hotels to find one who would protest about hookers onsite.
The only issue with Bali is that at higher end chains, mom and pop tourists don't want to see grandpa's with tables of 19 yo hookers playing in the pool around their kids. Behind closed bars, it's no holds barred.
Banana Boi
11-29-23, 21:18
What about girl-friendly hotels? Like my previous reply I said wrong thread but....
Here are nearly 2000 posts about Jakarta hotels. I think you can be pretty certain the hotels discussed in this thread are girl friendly. Never even crosses my mind when I book Jakarta hotels and I've stayed from hotels ranging from Mercure to Shangri-La.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2450-Jakarta-Hotels
Hello Gents -.
Does anyones have the information about IMEI registration for cell phone. I come to Jakarta at least 3-4 times a year. I will buy the Tourist SIM card at Telkosel in mall. And they will register my phone using my passport info. I usually stay for few weeks (under 30 days) in town and then leave.
However, last time the Telkosel staffs told met his is the LAST time they can register for me. And next time I MUST REGISTER at airport. This seems very very strange and no make sense. Because I am only buying a Tourist SIM card and I am leaving the country and then returning again.
Have any of your frequent travelers to Indonesia has this issue? Please advice. Thank you. I am sorry, but I might post this in Bali forum also because they might be more in-out travelers. The governmetn website is very useless not helps.
GentileBear
12-01-23, 23:45
United1,
I went to Jakarta this October 2023 for 3 weeks. In Jakarta airport. On arrival. My phone app based customs declaration card specifically said NO IMEI REGISTRATION FOR 30 DAY stays.
So unless it just changed. The VOA less than 30 day Visa arrivals don't need the IMEI registration.
Newton York
12-02-23, 04:16
If possible I would like some info.
1) Is 1/1.2 million enough for a decent LT?
2) what are the areas with the highest concentration of places to fish for girls?
3) do you have any suggestions for a good girl friendly hotel where you can bring girls without problems?
4) Are there strip clubs or just clubs with live music?
And finally.
5) are there massages with FS? Which ones and at what costs?
Any help and suggestions are welcome and welcome. I have planned my first trip to Jakarta early 2024. I am an expert in South East Asia, I have traveled to Vietnam (Saigon), many times to Thai (Bangkok) and many times to Phils (Angeles City), but Indonesia is completely new to me. My budget for 2 weeks of holiday will be around 150/170 euros per day (flight and hotel already paid for), I hope it is enough for a "full immersion" in Jakarta xxx.I remember years and years ago I was in Medan and my memory of it was that there weren't many attractive chicks. But decades on, I've banged some indo chicks, mainly in kaual lumpur, and in the days before they cleaned up Geylang, a lot of the indo street walkers were hot. I too wish to visit Jakarta one day to partake in all this. I've read so many reports, on places like maliaboro and what not. And with the exchange rate, sounds pretty cheap too. But alas, I need pharma aid to get it up. And keep it up. I wonder if that stuff is as accessible in Indoesia as it is in Thailand.
I RTFF. Thanks yall for the information. I've been all over the dodgy places in Indo, ex military yada yada yada, used to speak fluent Bahasa 30+ years ago. Anyway I have never stepped foot on Java so am looking forward to it. I know many Aussies, fellow Norwegians and Swedes who live here so it should be a fun trip. I love Indonesian food and have cooked it since I was 14 or so.
GADO GADO FTW, Beef rendang is heaven (any recommendations for A+ Beef Rendang would be welcomed).
Will check out BATS, other recommendations and report back as I usually do. Special thanks to OS, Banana Boi (always value), Raksopheni and others for great information. I'm finding this is one of the better threads on ISG, with more facts, more fun, less BS and less ego. I am very keen to see what $200 buys at Malio and Kings X.
I'm staying at the Grand Mercure for a week which is 6-7 km from BATS etc but I guess it will be ok for 8 nights in JK.
YMMV.
It's weird, but the older we get, the more picky and blase we become. This is counter-intuitive, I mean the older and saggier we become we should be ever more grateful for any morsel that lands near our plate. Maybe we're just spoiled by Jakarta, I don't know.
I find I can't even be bothered with a re-match now, no matter how hot the girl may be. I met this 25 yo a few weeks back, absolutely gorgeous, lovely smile, great personality, knew how to crack a joke and more importantly when to laugh at my jokes. Perhaps her only drawback was she had a kid and her boobs wouldn't have been as pert as they once were but still, definitely an 8. 5.
But best of all she was an absolute polecat in the sack. I mean she was into it all, the filthier the better, and she loved it. I couldn't believe it, here's a combo that if I had met 30 years ago in my hometown I would have fallen head over heels in love with, promising marriage, the works, I'd have been walking on the clouds for a week after.
We exchanged numbers and on the way home I was thinking when I could next meet up with her and all the things I'd do. The next morning, however, I'm getting text messages, when can we meet again? And what will we do? But I'm like, "Meh, I've been there, done that. Sure, it was great but do I really need a repeat?
The messages got so desperate, so pleading that I eventually blocked her.
I mean who needs that at our time of life? Am I right?I fall in love all the time in Thailand. Like 10 times a day and especially for whichever glamour SnFs me that day. Then I'm off. Very fussy with women overall these days (50's I am).
Love some girls in SOi 6 Pattaya. Do them once or twice LT and it is Adios Muchacas.
Love is a state between lust and boredom.
I love early-mid 30 ladies, MILFS but the quality around the globe seems to have headed way south as CPI has driven perceived prices way higher.
I'm here later tonight to try some sweet Indo pussy. Its all an exciting new venture. My 1st time in Java. Safe, cheap and full of hottees.
YMMV.
But alas, I need pharma aid to get it up. And keep it up. I wonder if that stuff is as accessible in Indoesia as it is in Thailand.Always best to get some real drugs at home and bring with you. Don't always trust the street stuff as most are fake and some have been known to contain toxic fillers and made guys very sick often requiring hospitalization. The local Indo drug stores should be fine with real stuff but unsure if doctor RX needed or if they can sell you without it.
Always best to get some real drugs at home and bring with you. Don't always trust the street stuff as most are fake and some have been known to contain toxic fillers and made guys very sick often requiring hospitalization. The local Indo drug stores should be fine with real stuff but unsure if doctor RX needed or if they can sell you without it.In Jakarta, I had no problem buying Lilly Cialis 20 MG at Kimia Farma without a prescription.
United1,
I went to Jakarta this October 2023 for 3 weeks. In Jakarta airport. On arrival. My phone app based customs declaration card specifically said NO IMEI REGISTRATION FOR 30 DAY stays.
So unless it just changed. The VOA less than 30 day Visa arrivals don't need the IMEI registration.Correct, you don't have to register if you stay less than 90 days. But you can't use an Indonesian SIM card in your mobile phone from abroad.
Hello Gents -.
Does anyones have the information about IMEI registration for cell phone. I come to Jakarta at least 3-4 times a year. I will buy the Tourist SIM card at Telkosel in mall. And they will register my phone using my passport info. I usually stay for few weeks (under 30 days) in town and then leave.
However, last time the Telkosel staffs told met his is the LAST time they can register for me. And next time I MUST REGISTER at airport. This seems very very strange and no make sense. Because I am only buying a Tourist SIM card and I am leaving the country and then returning again.
Have any of your frequent travelers to Indonesia has this issue? Please advice. Thank you. I am sorry, but I might post this in Bali forum also because they might be more in-out travelers. The governmetn website is very useless not helps.If you stay less than 90 days, you don't have to register your IMEI. But you can't use an Indonesian SIM card.
I am lucky that I still have an Indonesian SIM card and mobile phone, dating from before those measures. I left those at a friend and left some money to top up the card every now and then to keep it "alive". So, when I'm in Indonesia I use those to tetter(?) with my foreign mobile phone.
Since you are a frequent visitor, I think you know somebody that can help you to purchase a cheap second hand mobile phone and a local SIM card on her / his name. And do as I do.
If you stay less than 90 days, you don't have to register your IMEI. But you can't use an Indonesian SIM card.
I am lucky that I still have an Indonesian SIM card and mobile phone, dating from before those measures. I left those at a friend and left some money to top up the card every now and then to keep it "alive". So, when I'm in Indonesia I use those to tetter(?) with my foreign mobile phone.
Since you are a frequent visitor, I think you know somebody that can help you to purchase a cheap second hand mobile phone and a local SIM card on her / his name. And do as I do.
Alternatively, just buy a cheap Chinese phone in Indonesia. People get a brand new phone with brand new battery and dual simcard slots for less than IDR2m.
For second-hand there are a lot of them available for less than IDR1m.
Getting Indonesian phone no need to register, no need to top up (unless you need it), no need to worry about expiry date of the IMEI registration.
Banana Boi
12-02-23, 14:43
last time the Telkosel staffs told met his is the LAST time they can register for me. And next time I MUST REGISTER at airport. This seems very very strange and no make sense. Because I am only buying a Tourist SIM card and I am leaving the country and then returning again.
How does this make any sense at all? You always get ripped off when buying SIM cards in airports. Anyone know the reasoning behind this change? I always just went to Grand Indonesia to buy my SIM cards.
How does this make any sense at all? You always get ripped off when buying SIM cards in airports. Anyone know the reasoning behind this change? I always just went to Grand Indonesia to buy my SIM cards.Also, what is the downside of registering your phone? I am coming for 2 weeks. I want to have data all the time. I would want to register my phone and get a SIM (either in the airport or in the mall). Is this a bad idea?
How does this make any sense at all? You always get ripped off when buying SIM cards in airports. Anyone know the reasoning behind this change? I always just went to Grand Indonesia to buy my SIM cards.You can easily get a very cheap SIM card at the airport with unlimited data allowance. I find this is always the best solution when staying for a few weeks and avoids a lot of trouble. It is important to get the people who sell you the SIM card to install it to, and to test it before you leave. It takes them 5 min, whereas for you it might be very tricky. Also make sure to get one with fast internet speed and where the speed doesn't decline after a certain amount of time. I have a phone with two SIM card slots so I can keep my SIM card from my home country running for incoming calls and texts, and route everything else through the local SIM card.
Registering a foreign phone is cumbersome and takes time. SIM cards for foreigners are not easily available apart from at the airport.
However, for MiChat, only a proper local phone and SIM card will work. I have the impression that MiChat is useful for mongering in places like Yogyakarta. It has a function that enables you to see other people with MiChat nearby - including service providers. But I don't have the impression that MiChat is very useful in Jakarta.
Thanks Mr. GB for your postage. I sure you are correct. I am just a bit freaked out when Telkosel service staffs told me 'this is the last time we can dos it for you".
Did you use a Indo SIM card? Or you using home country SIM with Roaming.
I am curious. But again cheers and thanks.
United1,
I went to Jakarta this October 2023 for 3 weeks. In Jakarta airport. On arrival. My phone app based customs declaration card specifically said NO IMEI REGISTRATION FOR 30 DAY stays.
So unless it just changed. The VOA less than 30 day Visa arrivals don't need the IMEI registration.
Correct, you don't have to register if you stay less than 90 days. But you can't use an Indonesian SIM card in your mobile phone from abroad.Hi Menteng. Thanks for your commments. But whys do you say can't use INdo SIM card in mobile phone abroad? I have been doing that last 4-5 times to Jakarta. It always works. I go to Telkosel at Mal Ambassador and they give me cheap card and register my IMEI.
But are you sayings if you spend MORE than 90 days in Indonesia (total, including in and out) then it doesn't work, must register?
Sorry if I am confused.
Kopi Hitam
12-03-23, 01:06
Also, what is the downside of registering your phone? I am coming for 2 weeks. I want to have data all the time. I would want to register my phone and get a SIM (either in the airport or in the mall). Is this a bad idea?Smartfren is a company that circumvents the need for IMEI registration.
I've been using a Smartfren SIM in my unregistered overseas bought modern phone for the past 2 years without issue.
I bought my SIM from a counter in ITC Kuningan (Level 3 or 4, wherever the all the phone counters are), but they're available all over the place.
As mentioned, get the staff to install it for you.
SeaTraveler
12-03-23, 01:40
I'm staying at the Grand Mercure for a week which is 6-7 km from BATS etc but I guess it will be ok for 8 nights in JK.
YMMV.I stayed there for 4 days in August after a last-minute change in travel plans brought me back to Jakarta at 9 pm on a Tuesday night.
My fiancé recommended it. I thought it was very nice and much less expensive than Shangri-la and Mulia where I stayed the other 18 nights.
Joe Brooklyn
12-03-23, 04:44
Is it worth it to check out the two red light districts in southern Jakarta (Jalan Falatehan I and Melawai), or should I stick to the northern JK red light district (Jalan Pangeran Jayakarta) and the nearby brothels (Classic, Emporium, Malio, etc.)?
I'm asking because I only have 3 nights in Jakarta, and want to use my time wisely.
Cheers.
How does this make any sense at all? You always get ripped off when buying SIM cards in airports. Anyone know the reasoning behind this change? I always just went to Grand Indonesia to buy my SIM cards.BB,
My understanding is you can buy the SIM anywhere.
However, the IMEI Registeration must be done at the Airport.
The IMEI registration office is in Terminal 3 of Soekarno-Hatta Airport on the Ground Floor.
FYI - you MAY be asked a couple of questions about the phone - where did you buy and the market value of your phone.
~BKKguru
Also, what is the downside of registering your phone? I am coming for 2 weeks. I want to have data all the time. I would want to register my phone and get a SIM (either in the airport or in the mall). Is this a bad idea?I am not aware of any downside except for the following:
+ Sometimes there are 5 to 7 people in line and only ONE officer at the desk. You will have to wait 1.5 hours for the IMEI Registeration to be completed.
+ Each passenger is allowed to Register two devices only.
~BKKguru
Smartfren is a company that circumvents the need for IMEI registration. <snip> Thanks for the tip! I will try this on my next visit.
~BKKguru
Offshore Swell
12-03-23, 08:10
Hello Gents -.
Does anyones have the information about IMEI registration for cell phone. I come to Jakarta at least 3-4 times a year. I will buy the Tourist SIM card at Telkosel in mall. And they will register my phone using my passport info. I usually stay for few weeks (under 30 days) in town and then leave.
However, last time the Telkosel staffs told met his is the LAST time they can register for me. And next time I MUST REGISTER at airport. This seems very very strange and no make sense. Because I am only buying a Tourist SIM card and I am leaving the country and then returning again.
Have any of your frequent travelers to Indonesia has this issue? Please advice. Thank you. I am sorry, but I might post this in Bali forum also because they might be more in-out travelers. The governmetn website is very useless not helps.Tourist sim can be registered to a foreign phone only 2 times for 3 months ea. Then if you want to use that phone you will need to register the IMIE and pay duty.
Only other option is to buy a cheap local phone and put a indo sim in it.
Hi Menteng. Thanks for your commments. But whys do you say can't use INdo SIM card in mobile phone abroad? I have been doing that last 4-5 times to Jakarta. It always works. I go to Telkosel at Mal Ambassador and they give me cheap card and register my IMEI.
But are you sayings if you spend MORE than 90 days in Indonesia (total, including in and out) then it doesn't work, must register?
Sorry if I am confused.I stayed six weeks at a stretch in September and October, this year.
Of course you can use an Indonesian SIM card in another country (roaming abroad), but you can not use an Indonesian SIM card in an UNREGISTERED phone you brought FROM abroad, while being in Indonesia. That was my experience.
So, when was the last time you were in Jakarta?
I mentioned that I have an Indonesian SIM card since a couple of years. I used to use it in my registered foreign phones. When registering that phone at / by Telkomsel (for 30 days) in September 2023, they told me it would be the last time that I could do that outside the airport. After those 30 days, the SIM card indeed stopped working. Thinking, the combination SIM card and expired registered IMEI does not work, I put the SIM card in my second, non-registered, phone. Alas, it still did not work. That was when a friend told me about tettering.
BTW, those who have registered a mobile phone that is worth more than US $500 at the airport, did they tell you that you'll have to pay tax?
Banana Boi
12-03-23, 13:10
Silly question but can I make the assumption that none of this matters on an all Asia or Global eSIM card bought outside of Indonesia?
Tourist sim can be registered to a foreign phone only 2 times for 3 months ea. Then if you want to use that phone you will need to register the IMIE and pay duty.
Only other option is to buy a cheap local phone and put a indo sim in it.This could be what the Telkosim folks were tries to warn me. Hmmmm. Thanks.
Silly question but can I make the assumption that none of this matters on an all Asia or Global eSIM card bought outside of Indonesia?No, you don't have to register if you are using a non-Indo SIM card.
SeaTraveler
12-04-23, 03:16
I arrive on December 7 for a 3 month stay. Prefer CJ's and BATS but also want to explore Kings Cross and Malioboro. Anyone wanting to meet up PM me ASAP.
Arrived, checked into Grand Mercure. Meh, staying 2 nights then moving to the Shangrila. I tried to walk down to Classic and got all of 200 m. Couldn't even try for Malio by foot because of construction and the mess of the street.
Malio on Sun was ok but there seemed to be no dancing when I was there. Had a few waters, a beer, bought a lovely lass several LD, did the old boom booms for I think 1. 2 M IDR (maybe it was 1. 4). Girl is very nice, getting her on an off day later this week to spend a day / night showing me JK and boom booms etc for 2 k mega LT.
I've been referred to a massage spot which I am going to now, then will go to Classic, Travel and probably Malio again to try the spa 1st. Tomorrow I am going to try a high rise bar then head to the Little Tokyo area and / or North Jakarta and try the beer bars and yada yada yada.
More detailed reports later in the week.
1st impressions here are women = A, streets = F, pollution = F, overall vibe is a good be+, food so far is A++.
I'm slowly remembering a LOT of basic Bahasa as I was quite fluent as a teen and in my military days. Always loved the word for Prison!
YMMV.
Yesterday's ventures.
1. Sugar Spa on Jalan Labu. Recommended by forum member. Nice massage, great BJ but CBJ only and I couldn't cum so had her rip the rubber off and give me a wonderful slow tantric type HJ. Super spurtlicious ending. In total had this 90+ minute session with a 30 something spinner with nice tits. No baby belly, looks a bit like an Indo pop star who's name I dunno. Overall excellent professional service, well appointed rooms and very hot friendly "therapists". I used the spa, cold plunge and sauna all for a 600 k plus tips. I gave the lady a 300 k tip as she is lovely. There is a cover charge here so if you are a tire kicker meh. Ratings. Lady = looks 8. 5, body 8, attitude 10.
Spa itself overall 9/10. I may return as I will be a long way away from today at the Shangrila so we will see.
2. Travel Hotel. Only stopped in to have another peek as my balls were well drained at 1.
Classic, was dark and noisy which surprised me. The rooms, layout and general vibe is excellent, everything was very clean and whilst the service was very full on (Mamasans) overall it is great spot.
I eventually took 2 ladies ST from the 3rd Mamasan who bothered me (Mamasan was told to get me 2 performers and good BJ givers, tipped 50 k). I had avoided eye contact with most people for the 1st hour I was in the club area and just wandered about like I was on an Australian guy walkabout, after ordering but 1 drink from the bar (expensive with 30% tax). Drinks menu looked okay, but I had a beer, so I managed to keep my bar bills very low.
The sex was okay to great. The BBBJ from one lady while another licked my neck and chest was delightful and I was very excited so I spurted within 7 minutes or less. The ladies tried the old one shot ST thing so I told them we would go for a full hour and multipops and that I will be tipping them 200 k each at the end if they perform. The 200 k tip idea saved the session and made both smile unconditionally.
I boom boomed with the older busty (D+ bust, plastic) MILF type (face looks about 6. 5, attitude 10, body 7. 5) while I tried to finger the 20 something spinner of the duet. She was very tight. The spinner is a straight 8 and very pleasant to look at, just a pretty girl (I guess she is 23-25).
Seeing I couldn't cum with the MILF (after my BBBJ and my early afternoon massage spurt session), I tried the spinner doggie style but she was very sore it seems (I am avg down below) so we got her on top and I massaged her clit to get her rocking and rolling. I banged the poor lass gently and then a bit harder for what seemed an eternity and I finally dribbled something into the rubber with very little joyous O feeling. While this was going I encouraged the MILF by sucking her tits and touching her all over while she lay next to us.
Overall, the place is better than Travel as there are fully naked ladies, the drinks seemed cheaper (I only had 1 beer), the ambience is quite nice.
In total, I was there for about 3 hours. I went and saw the spa, pool etc, terminal area (name? My total damage came to about 1. 3 Million all up (550 k per girl with tips and other), Mamasan tip and fees.
I will return on this trip and hang for longer and try everything on offer and may go for 2 different sessions spread out over an evening.
Also, what is the downside of registering your phone? I am coming for 2 weeks. I want to have data all the time. I would want to register my phone and get a SIM (either in the airport or in the mall). Is this a bad idea?What is the downside of registering your phone?
So far, nothing happened to me. (register your Imei at https://ecd.beacukai.go.id).
You can do roaming or you can buy a cheap phone plus using hotspot.
I am buying a local sim and register my current phone. (this suppose to be most tourist is doing right?
After register online, look for a service booth for ground floor officer to activate your current phone (at the Jakarta airport). BUT you may needed 3/4 hours for the line to be "online" after insert local sim. (go ask the service booth officer about this). Note that I had a ready local sim on-hand.
If you do not had a local sim on-hand, just register the phone IMEI first (the link above) and go to met the service officer after immigration clearance. For phone more than usd500 there is a levy charge (how the service officer know how much your phone price?. Just a guess and estimated price. A new Iphone 15 Plus 256 G can not be priced at usd450. Just some common sense.
Once done this, buy a local sim at the airport (or anyway you like) and perform registering the local number as usual. (the person take a photo of I am holding my passport myself).
Insert the local sim, and as I said before the phone may take 3/4 hour to be "online".
I hope that may help you.
I arrived at Malio in the mid evening around 9. 30 pm and it was ok but not really busy. I wandered about as I usually do and got a table and bought myself a drink or 3. I made eye contact and motioned the lady from yesterday but she was ordered to go and sit with a Japanese client (mehhhh). Really good lookers tonight but are they really 3 times better than Classic. Nah "I don't think so Tim".
I was very flat from my 2 earlier in the day escapades and 3 * cum shots so I decided to just drink and buy some LD for the fook of it all. I was suddenly told I need a reservation to sit and drink at the table even though I'd paid for an entrance fee (yes?) and a drink for myself. Anyway, being the uppity bloke I can be when some asshat gets in my face, I decided to order a table reservation even though I had been at the fooking table for 45 minutes. REALLY. I mean the place was not packed yet. Mamasan told me I needed to spend 500 k IDR minimum. I told her I was a new regular and pointed at the lass from the day before, she smiled and acknowledged me. Anway, Mamasan was a pain so I lightened the mood and bought the cnut a drink and a very pretty bikini lady 4 drinks. Got a few myself and somehow ended up with a 885 k bill. I suppose the LD were a few hundred in total (50 k+ per drink+tax), my drinks were 2 beers, 2 shots and a cocktail.
The bikini model quoted me 1. 1 M IDR but I thought I had paid more for her friend yesterday. Anyway I couldn't get the cock=nerve=courage to go again so promised the lass I would return another day. She took umbrage but I smiled, offered her 2 M off-base overnight and for a day and got her contact details for her day off (Thu). Bikini girl is a straight pretty busty little lass, face = 9, body 9. 5 (no bubbies), we will see if I can get her to the Shangrila on Thu. Her attitude is bright when $ are mentioned.
YMMV.
Captain Solo
12-06-23, 23:35
I knew a few Indosat's engineers and managers who live in Jakarta, including one who married a hot Garuda's flight attendant.
They laugh about the air pollution, heavy floods with trash and feces floating with heavy rains, cars and motor bikes dead in flood water, brothels where they can bag girls for $5, may be less with recent exchange rates.
These guys are religious, really nice and mellow, but party, smoke, drink heavily and partake girls behind their wives' backs every chance. They want me to visit. Would be fun to hang with those guys.
WeKilledKenny
12-07-23, 01:06
Classic, was dark and noisy which surprised me. The rooms, layout and general vibe is excellent, everything was very clean and whilst the service was very full on (Mamasans) overall it is great spot.
I eventually took 2 ladies ST from the 3rd Mamasan who bothered me (Mamasan was told to get me 2 performers and good BJ givers, tipped 50 k). I had avoided eye contact with most people for the 1st hour I was in the club area and just wandered about like I was on an Australian guy walkabout, after ordering but 1 drink from the bar (expensive with 30% tax). Drinks menu looked okay, but I had a beer, so I managed to keep my bar bills very low.
The sex was okay to great. The BBBJ from one lady while another licked my neck and chest was delightful and I was very excited so I spurted within 7 minutes or less. The ladies tried the old one shot ST thing so I told them we would go for a full hour and multipops and that I will be tipping them 200 k each at the end if they perform. The 200 k tip idea saved the session and made both smile unconditionally.
I boom boomed with the older busty (D+ bust, plastic) MILF type (face looks about 6. 5, attitude 10, body 7. 5) while I tried to finger the 20 something spinner of the duet. She was very tight. The spinner is a straight 8 and very pleasant to look at, just a pretty girl (I guess she is 23-25).
Seeing I couldn't cum with the MILF (after my BBBJ and my early afternoon massage spurt session), I tried the spinner doggie style but she was very sore it seems (I am avg down below) so we got her on top and I massaged her clit to get her rocking and rolling. I banged the poor lass gently and then a bit harder for what seemed an eternity and I finally dribbled something into the rubber with very little joyous O feeling. While this was going I encouraged the MILF by sucking her tits and touching her all over while she lay next to us.
Overall, the place is better than Travel as there are fully naked ladies, the drinks seemed cheaper (I only had 1 beer), the ambience is quite nice.
In total, I was there for about 3 hours. I went and saw the spa, pool etc, terminal area (name? My total damage came to about 1. 3 Million all up (550 k per girl with tips and other), Mamasan tip and fees.
I will return on this trip and hang for longer and try everything on offer and may go for 2 different sessions spread out over an evening.I've had similar experiences to extend the session. But damn it's nearly impossible to get BBFS there. And, to clarify, did you mean they were naked in the bar area or just in the room?
I've had similar experiences to extend the session. But damn it's nearly impossible to get BBFS there. And, to clarify, did you mean they were naked in the bar area or just in the room?Depends who you ask and how much tip you offer.
My BB rate in classic is well above 50%.
Offshore Swell
12-07-23, 07:19
What is the downside of registering your phone?
So far, nothing happened to me. (register your Imei at https://ecd.beacukai.go.id).
You can do roaming or you can buy a cheap phone plus using hotspot.
I am buying a local sim and register my current phone. (this suppose to be most tourist is doing right?
After register online, look for a service booth for ground floor officer to activate your current phone (at the Jakarta airport). BUT you may needed 3/4 hours for the line to be "online" after insert local sim. (go ask the service booth officer about this). Note that I had a ready local sim on-hand.
If you do not had a local sim on-hand, just register the phone IMEI first (the link above) and go to met the service officer after immigration clearance. For phone more than usd500 there is a levy charge (how the service officer know how much your phone price?. Just a guess and estimated price. A new Iphone 15 Plus 256 G can not be priced at usd450. Just some common sense.
Once done this, buy a local sim at the airport (or anyway you like) and perform registering the local number as usual. (the person take a photo of I am holding my passport myself).
Insert the local sim, and as I said before the phone may take 3/4 hour to be "online".
I hope that may help you.You guys aren't getting this. If you are a one off tourist and will only be in Indo less than 90 days you do not need to register your phones IMIE. You can show your passport at the telkomsel booth after customs and get a three month tourist sim, it may be extended one more time for an additional 3 months at a telkomsel Grapari phone store (bring your passport) OR you just use your foreign SIM. No IMIE registration required in both instances.
If you are a regular visitor to Indo, and have a local sim card. Your phone needed to have been used in Indo before 2021 or something for the IMIE to be in the system, otherwise you need to register it for the local SIM to work OR use your foreign SIM.
Duty is calculated on the market value of your phone Over a $500 USD threshold. It's no big deal.
You can show your passport at the telkomsel booth after customs and get a three month tourist sim, it may be extended one more time for an additional 3 months at a telkomsel Grapari phone store (bring your passport) OR you just use your foreign SIM. No IMIE registration required in both instances.
.Thanks Offshore. These last part I wanting to confirm. Because I go Jakarta a 4 times a year (fly in and out for 20 days), I was told that you can only do this 2 x and then need to do IMEI registration at airport.
So can I still do IMEI registration at Telkomsel Grapari at the mall? Or after 2 x entering the country (even though less than 30 days) in one year, I MUST registers at airport.
Sorry to keep bringing this up.
I told the 2 ladies at Classic that I have a problem with condoms for oral sex (Bulldust) and would like BBBJ immediately with a tip promise as was my 2nd request for more than 1 shot. So in total they got 200 k each tip.
I am told that ladies here may only get 100 k per session out of 350 k total.
Did BATS, some of Blok M. Little Tokyo, Jalan Falatehan and Jalan Pangeran Jayakarta.
Reports to follow.
Overall, I like BATS and North Jakarta quite a bit, Tokyo good, the beer bars okay not great.
Offshore Swell
12-08-23, 11:37
Thanks Offshore. These last part I wanting to confirm. Because I go Jakarta a 4 times a year (fly in and out for 20 days), I was told that you can only do this 2 x and then need to do IMEI registration at airport.
So can I still do IMEI registration at Telkomsel Grapari at the mall? Or after 2 x entering the country (even though less than 30 days) in one year, I MUST registers at airport.
Sorry to keep bringing this up.You should register with customs when clearing customs at the airport. Otherwise you must register at a customs office in the city but get no $500 USD duty free threshold on the calculable duty. Yes you can get a tourist simand after 2 times renew register your IMIE. This is smart because in 6 months the value of your phone has dropped
Muzungufotsy
12-08-23, 12:50
I told the 2 ladies at Classic that I have a problem with condoms for oral sex (Bulldust) and would like BBBJ immediately with a tip promise as was my 2nd request for more than 1 shot. So in total they got 200 k each tip.
I am told that ladies here may only get 100 k per session out of 350 k total.BBBJ is standard everywhere. 2 shots with 2 girls is part of the deal anyway. There was no need to tip. You got robbed.
Expat American
12-08-23, 17:27
So I just got done with my first mongering trip to Jakarta. And all I can say is. WOW. I I hooked up with a few other board members who were amazing and showed me the ropes. Thanks guys, the trip wouldn't have been as great without your help.
Flight: Air Asia from Singapore 1 HR 45 min everything on time. Jakarta airport surprisingly efficient, no lines anywhere at all. VOA, Immigration and Customs all done in less than 20 min. Changed 100 USD just to get going, stepped outside and hopped into a Bluebird. Meter rate to Holiday Inn about 130 K.
Hotel: Holiday Inn Gajah Meda. I can't say enough good things about this hotel. 5 star luxury at 3 star price. $45/ night including a nice breakfast. Large, clean quiet rooms, great service. Perfect location 10 min from Classic / Travel / Kota Indah. About 25 K for a grab car to any of those hot spots.
The Venues: Classic and Travel have similar set ups, large bars, live band, hundreds of girls. The quality of the girls blew me away. Better than Thailand for me because no plastic and very few tats. All natural look. And I don't believe there was a single girl over 25 in any of the bars we went to. Hardly any foreigners, mostly local crowd. Downsides were very loud music and lots of smoke. Girls are sitting on couches in groups each managed by a mamasan. You can get the mamasan to have them all line up for inspection. Its okay to say no to all of them and move to another mamasan. You are the boss here. Price 375 for one, 500 for two. Unbeatable deal. Clean rooms. Kota Indah is even more local and very crowded late at night. Had more of a happening party vibe with thumping DJ music. But slightly lower girl quality however with the sheer number of girls you can always find a few to your satisfaction. Same set up with mamasans and rooms. One thing I didn't learn the first day is you can select a girl and sit and have a drink and chat and you are still free to reject her if you don't vibe. I did that in KI and Classic and was met with a polite thank you and they even kissed my hand as they left. Also checked out Malio club which is more an American style strip club. Lots of high mileage for a $4 lady drink. Girl quality higher than Classic / Travel but 3 X -10 X more expensive to fuck depending on girl category.
The Girls: I found all the girls except one to be amazing in service. And even the one was not bad by objective standards. I had 2 threesomes, several one on ones. I must have fucked 8 girls all bareback. Juicy details below.
Day 1: Arrived hotel around 2 pm. Sugar spa was across the street and recommended by ISG bro. You select girl from Ipad, I asked for a slim girl with natural tits and mamasan recommended Echa. Cute girl in person. Go to room, she showers and bathes me thoroughly, does some massage, teasing, body to body and moves on to sex. I ask for bareback, she agrees, off to the races. Decent service but nothing compared to what was coming later. 650 K plus 100 K tip and she was happy. I broke my Jakarta Cherry. Later around 6 pm met up with the guys at Classic. Thats a good time to go, most of the girls are there but few customers. Went around the sofas and one mama san said "new girls" so I said OK, show me. She pulls up one girl there on her first day (yeah right I'm thinking but turns out she was actually telling the truth). Mama offers 2 for 500 and I'm like WTF, how bad can it be for 30 bucks? So I chose another skinny girl and take them to the room. Here they both say they are new and have never done a threesome. I'm like cool, I will show you how (evil grin). I tell them no condoms and offer an undefined tip. They quickly agree. That was my first amazing session. The brand new girl was 22 and the other was 19 and had been there a week. They were full on GFE, DFK, alternatively fucking one pussy and another pussy to a mouth and back and forth. This went on for a good 40 min before I finally unloaded in the skinny one. The new one looked down at her pussy and there was some blood (not period) so I think she was really not used to it. But she didn't complain a word. I tipped them each a generous 200 K and they were thrilled. Total cost 900 K (60 USD). Wow. I thought it couldn't get better but I was wrong. Wait until day 3! But wait, Day 1 is not over. All the boys then decide to move to Travel. A lot more girls, more party atmosphere. Spent most of the evening hanging with the guys but took one slim cutie who turned out to be the worst lay of the trip. She asked for tip right away in advance. I told her I will tip her after and expect BBFS. She agrees but tries to rush. I stop her and tell her that's not how it works got her to come around to doing it right. So in the end she delivered an acceptable session, I unload inside her and give her the promised 200 k (even though she maybe didn't quite deserve it). 3 pops is a good day for me at my age and I call it a night.
Day 2: After a nice sushi lunch with the gang, one of the guys and I decide to go to Classic Spa. This is in the basement of Classic Hotel. Typical spa set up like in Macau or Shanghai. Lockers, Jacuzzi, Sauna etc for the 120000 entrance fee. Theres a lounge with fishbowl of girls. Not the best selection at 3 pm (early) but I did see one beauty who turned out to be the highlight of the trip Took her back and she exemplified true GFE. Passionate kissing, long deep BBBJ, deep fingering that made her almost squirt. After some Satay at the lounge, went up the bar area again but couldn't get myself energized for another so went back to the room for a break. Later the guys all wanted to go to Kota Indah so we ended up there. Popped into a few bars, crazy scene. Loud, dark and crowded. Tons of girls and also tons of guys (all locals). Quality not quite as good as Classic but still not bad. The environment was too hectic for me to choose. I did buy a drink with one girl but close up she had tats which I didn't want. I politely told her no thanks and she took it sweetly and kissed my hand and left. Felt bad cause she was a nice girl but I was saving my precious fluid for a stunner. Which I found in the fishbowl at Starmoon. A gorgeous 19 yo, slim but with natural large tits. Unbelievable body and face. Had a drink with her and took her upstairs. A bit disappointed as she was not too enthusiastic but BBFSCIP with a hot 19 yo for 25 bucks is never a bad thing. Two shots on the second day and I'm done. I wish I could do 6 shots in 24 hours like I used to 20 years ago in Angeles, but alas, those days are gone.
Day 3: Decided to go back to Classic Spa to possibly repeat with the same girl. She was there as was another tight spinner I had my eye on. So took both of them for what turned out to be by far one of the best sexual experiences of my life. Paid a small 50 K upgrade to a VIP room which had a large round bed and a jacuzzi tub as well. Since the first girl already knew me and was happy to see me again and she spoke English, it worked like charm. She instructed the other girl in what I liked (no condom etc) and both were happy and giggling in the room, overall a very positive vibe. The sex as off the charts. Better than my first 3 some and with way hotter girls. The first threesome girls were like 7 while these were solid 9 in my book. And both were full on with passionate kissing, fingering them to orgasm, long deep BBBJ, alternate pussy fucking. Like a dream, two 20 year old hot girls doing whatever I wanted. First shot unloaded in the skinny one. Second in the other one. Total cost for 90 min 600 k each for the girl plus 200 k each tip. So about USD 100 all in. This ranks as one of my best experiences in over 20 years of mongering. Back in the day I used to get stuff like this all the time in Angeles but not with girls this hot.
Came out of the session and went in for a regular massage (also onsite) which felt great and then back to the jacuzzi for a dip before leaving. We spent probably 6 hours onsite and total bill was about $150 all inclusive. My favorite place of the trip.
Last thing left to check out was Malioboro so a few of us went there after 10 pm. I know the place gets bad press but I actually had fun. Lots of hot girls in transparent fishnet clothing. I bought one some $4 drinks and she was on my lap, French kissing me, fondling her boobs while she rubbed my dick, and I even stuck my finger in her pussy. Lap dance ++ experience was a lot of fun. You can fuck the dancers for 3. 8 M (over $200) so not worth it but for watching hot girls and playing with a few for drinks its great value. My total bill was 800 K (50 USD) for lap dances and a round of beers for the gang.
Final Comments: Why on earth did I not bother to go to Jakarta earlier? I've lived in Asia since 2017 and visited Thailand and Phils dozens of times. Jakarta is like Bangkok 20 years ago. Unjaded girls, no English, few foreigners and tourists so prices in line with local market. No fake boobs, few tattoos. I also chatted with a bunch of Tinder girls but since I was there for only 3 days didn't really get time to meet them. But that option also exists.
I think AC is now off my destination list forever, replaced by Jakarta. The only saving grace of AC was BBFS but I had 100% success rate with that in Jakarta. Just one girl refused in the bar and I sent her away. Every other girl quickly agreed with the promise of a small tip. Even in threesomes where they often won't do that in front of their coworkers, I didn't get any resistance. I know other posters have had different experiences and I don't know why but this was my experience. As Arnold said so eloquently " I will be baack".
GentileBear
12-08-23, 19:17
Decided to go back to Classic Spa...... by far one of the best sexual experiences of my life. .Fuck Yeah! What a report. And only 3 days on ground in Jakarta! Wow! Best report posted in a year! Amen and Amen!
Banana Boi
12-08-23, 20:23
Jakarta airport surprisingly efficient, no lines anywhere at all. VOA, Immigration and Customs all done in less than 20 min. Everything is smooth at Jakarta airport but it's irrelevant if you have checked bags which you have to wait an hour for.
I must have fucked 8 girls all bareback. This is the most interesting statement for me after reading your review. Classic and Travel are not really known for BBFS for first time customers and even more difficult if you take 2 girls. In fact, most demanding guys complain about the service at Classic and Travel. Girls must really be hurting for business if this is the new norm at Classic and Travel.
Last thing left to check out was Malioboro so a few of us went there after 10 pm. I know the place gets bad press but I actually had fun. Lots of hot girls in transparent fishnet clothing. I bought one some $4 drinks and she was on my lap, French kissing me, fondling her boobs while she rubbed my dick, and I even stuck my finger in her pussy. Lap dance ++ experience was a lot of fun. You can fuck the dancers for 3. 8 M (over $200) so not worth it Don't think the bad press at Malioboro is because you can't have fun there with beautiful girls. The bad press comes from the high prices the girls demand ie. 40-60 drinks just for a BJ.
Is cover still $10 US? Did you check out the other floors?
Final Comments: Why on earth did I not bother to go to Jakarta earlier? We all ask ourselves the same question after our first trip to Jakarta. I've been trying to get some guys to go sine 2017 but they're so stuck in their ways in PP and Thailand and are "afraid" to try somewhere new. I guess they'll figure it out in another few years when Jakarta becomes more popular. By then it'll be too late as it'll be another place where we look back at the good old days.
" I will be baack".Amazing review. Thanks for shares. I will private message you question.
We may well have done the same lady at Sugar and Classic. LOL.
We all ask ourselves the same question after our first trip to Jakarta. I've been trying to get some guys to go sine 2017 but they're so stuck in their ways in PP and Thailand and are "afraid" to try somewhere new. I guess they'll figure it out in another few years when Jakarta becomes more popular. By then it'll be too late as it'll be another place where we look back at the good old days.The less people that know the better, LOL.
Expat American
12-09-23, 12:14
Everything is smooth at Jakarta airport but it's irrelevant if you have checked bags which you have to wait an hour for.
This is the most interesting statement for me after reading your review. Classic and Travel are not really known for BBFS for first time customers and even more difficult if you take 2 girls. In fact, most demanding guys complain about the service at Classic and Travel. Girls must really be hurting for business if this is the new norm at Classic and Travel.
Don't think the bad press at Malioboro is because you can't have fun there with beautiful girls. The bad press comes from the high prices the girls demand ie. 40-60 drinks just for a BJ.
Is cover still $10 US? Did you check out the other floors?
We all ask ourselves the same question after our first trip to Jakarta. I've been trying to get some guys to go sine 2017 but they're so stuck in their ways in PP and Thailand and are "afraid" to try somewhere new. I guess they'll figure it out in another few years when Jakarta becomes more popular. By then it'll be too late as it'll be another place where we look back at the good old days.I don't think girls are hurting and I don't necessarily think my experiences are the "norm" and everyone should expect that. Other members of our group had varying success rates with the BBFS. I generally have good success even in Thailand (like 75%) but not with girls as hot as the ones in Jakarta. I am also not cheap charlie. If a girl pleases me the way I want, I make sure she is happy. The girl I repeated with at Classic Spa was thrilled to see me again and then her friend felt safe also and the 3 some worked. Repeating at a location and having a good reputation there helps. The first 3 some in Classic Bar, the girls were new so maybe that helped also. Or maybe I am just charming them. LOL. Either way, worked well for me.
Yes Malio Cover 150 K (10 USD). I didn't check out other areas this time.
So I just got done with my first mongering trip to Jakarta. And all I can say is. WOW. I I hooked up with a few other board members who were amazing and showed me the ropes. Thanks guys, the trip wouldn't have been as great without your help.
Flight: Air Asia from Singapore 1 HR 45 min everything on time. Jakarta airport surprisingly efficient, no lines anywhere at all. VOA, Immigration and Customs all done in less than 20 min. Changed 100 USD just to get going, stepped outside and hopped into a Bluebird. Meter rate to Holiday Inn about 130 K.
Hotel: Holiday Inn Gajah Meda. I can't say enough good things about this hotel. 5 star luxury at 3 star price. $45/ night including a nice breakfast. Large, clean quiet rooms, great service. Perfect location 10 min from Classic / Travel / Kota Indah. About 25 K for a grab car to any of those hot spots.
The Venues: Classic and Travel have similar set ups, large bars, live band, hundreds of girls. The quality of the girls blew me away. Better than Thailand for me because no plastic and very few tats. All natural look. And I don't believe there was a single girl over 25 in any of the bars we went to. Hardly any foreigners, mostly local crowd. Downsides were very loud music and lots of smoke. Girls are sitting on couches in groups each managed by a mamasan. You can get the mamasan to have them all line up for inspection. Its okay to say no to all of them and move to another mamasan. You are the boss here. Price 375 for one, 500 for two. Unbeatable deal. Clean rooms. Kota Indah is even more local and very crowded late at night. Had more of a happening party vibe with thumping DJ music. But slightly lower girl quality however with the sheer number of girls you can always find a few to your satisfaction. Same set up with mamasans and rooms. One thing I didn't learn the first day is you can select a girl and sit and have a drink and chat and you are still free to reject her if you don't vibe. I did that in KI and Classic and was met with a polite thank you and they even kissed my hand as they left. Also checked out Malio club which is more an American style strip club. Lots of high mileage for a $4 lady drink. Girl quality higher than Classic / Travel but 3 X -10 X more expensive to fuck depending on girl category.
The Girls: I found all the girls except one to be amazing in service. And even the one was not bad by objective standards. I had 2 threesomes, several one on ones. I must have fucked 8 girls all bareback. Juicy details below.
Day 1: Arrived hotel around 2 pm. Sugar spa was across the street and recommended by ISG bro. You select girl from Ipad, I asked for a slim girl with natural tits and mamasan recommended Echa. Cute girl in person. Go to room, she showers and bathes me thoroughly, does some massage, teasing, body to body and moves on to sex. I ask for bareback, she agrees, off to the races. Decent service but nothing compared to what was coming later. 650 K plus 100 K tip and she was happy. I broke my Jakarta Cherry. Later around 6 pm met up with the guys at Classic. Thats a good time to go, most of the girls are there but few customers. Went around the sofas and one mama san said "new girls" so I said OK, show me. She pulls up one girl there on her first day (yeah right I'm thinking but turns out she was actually telling the truth). Mama offers 2 for 500 and I'm like WTF, how bad can it be for 30 bucks? So I chose another skinny girl and take them to the room. Here they both say they are new and have never done a threesome. I'm like cool, I will show you how (evil grin). I tell them no condoms and offer an undefined tip. They quickly agree. That was my first amazing session. The brand new girl was 22 and the other was 19 and had been there a week. They were full on GFE, DFK, alternatively fucking one pussy and another pussy to a mouth and back and forth. This went on for a good 40 min before I finally unloaded in the skinny one. The new one looked down at her pussy and there was some blood (not period) so I think she was really not used to it. But she didn't complain a word. I tipped them each a generous 200 K and they were thrilled. Total cost 900 K (60 USD). Wow. I thought it couldn't get better but I was wrong. Wait until day 3! But wait, Day 1 is not over. All the boys then decide to move to Travel. A lot more girls, more party atmosphere. Spent most of the evening hanging with the guys but took one slim cutie who turned out to be the worst lay of the trip. She asked for tip right away in advance. I told her I will tip her after and expect BBFS. She agrees but tries to rush. I stop her and tell her that's not how it works got her to come around to doing it right. So in the end she delivered an acceptable session, I unload inside her and give her the promised 200 k (even though she maybe didn't quite deserve it). 3 pops is a good day for me at my age and I call it a night.
Day 2: After a nice sushi lunch with the gang, one of the guys and I decide to go to Classic Spa. This is in the basement of Classic Hotel. Typical spa set up like in Macau or Shanghai. Lockers, Jacuzzi, Sauna etc for the 120000 entrance fee. Theres a lounge with fishbowl of girls. Not the best selection at 3 pm (early) but I did see one beauty who turned out to be the highlight of the trip Took her back and she exemplified true GFE. Passionate kissing, long deep BBBJ, deep fingering that made her almost squirt. After some Satay at the lounge, went up the bar area again but couldn't get myself energized for another so went back to the room for a break. Later the guys all wanted to go to Kota Indah so we ended up there. Popped into a few bars, crazy scene. Loud, dark and crowded. Tons of girls and also tons of guys (all locals). Quality not quite as good as Classic but still not bad. The environment was too hectic for me to choose. I did buy a drink with one girl but close up she had tats which I didn't want. I politely told her no thanks and she took it sweetly and kissed my hand and left. Felt bad cause she was a nice girl but I was saving my precious fluid for a stunner. Which I found in the fishbowl at Starmoon. A gorgeous 19 yo, slim but with natural large tits. Unbelievable body and face. Had a drink with her and took her upstairs. A bit disappointed as she was not too enthusiastic but BBFSCIP with a hot 19 yo for 25 bucks is never a bad thing. Two shots on the second day and I'm done. I wish I could do 6 shots in 24 hours like I used to 20 years ago in Angeles, but alas, those days are gone.
Day 3: Decided to go back to Classic Spa to possibly repeat with the same girl. She was there as was another tight spinner I had my eye on. So took both of them for what turned out to be by far one of the best sexual experiences of my life. Paid a small 50 K upgrade to a VIP room which had a large round bed and a jacuzzi tub as well. Since the first girl already knew me and was happy to see me again and she spoke English, it worked like charm. She instructed the other girl in what I liked (no condom etc) and both were happy and giggling in the room, overall a very positive vibe. The sex as off the charts. Better than my first 3 some and with way hotter girls. The first threesome girls were like 7 while these were solid 9 in my book. And both were full on with passionate kissing, fingering them to orgasm, long deep BBBJ, alternate pussy fucking. Like a dream, two 20 year old hot girls doing whatever I wanted. First shot unloaded in the skinny one. Second in the other one. Total cost for 90 min 600 k each for the girl plus 200 k each tip. So about USD 100 all in. This ranks as one of my best experiences in over 20 years of mongering. Back in the day I used to get stuff like this all the time in Angeles but not with girls this hot.
Came out of the session and went in for a regular massage (also onsite) which felt great and then back to the jacuzzi for a dip before leaving. We spent probably 6 hours onsite and total bill was about $150 all inclusive. My favorite place of the trip.
Last thing left to check out was Malioboro so a few of us went there after 10 pm. I know the place gets bad press but I actually had fun. Lots of hot girls in transparent fishnet clothing. I bought one some $4 drinks and she was on my lap, French kissing me, fondling her boobs while she rubbed my dick, and I even stuck my finger in her pussy. Lap dance ++ experience was a lot of fun. You can fuck the dancers for 3. 8 M (over $200) so not worth it but for watching hot girls and playing with a few for drinks its great value. My total bill was 800 K (50 USD) for lap dances and a round of beers for the gang.
Final Comments: Why on earth did I not bother to go to Jakarta earlier? I've lived in Asia since 2017 and visited Thailand and Phils dozens of times. Jakarta is like Bangkok 20 years ago. Unjaded girls, no English, few foreigners and tourists so prices in line with local market. No fake boobs, few tattoos. I also chatted with a bunch of Tinder girls but since I was there for only 3 days didn't really get time to meet them. But that option also exists.
I think AC is now off my destination list forever, replaced by Jakarta. The only saving grace of AC was BBFS but I had 100% success rate with that in Jakarta. Just one girl refused in the bar and I sent her away. Every other girl quickly agreed with the promise of a small tip. Even in threesomes where they often won't do that in front of their coworkers, I didn't get any resistance. I know other posters have had different experiences and I don't know why but this was my experience. As Arnold said so eloquently " I will be baack".What a great report, many thanks for taking the time. Something I did not quite understand; On day 1 you went to Classic on day 2 and 3 to Classic Spa, is this two seperate places, or is it the same?
Cheers.
Be.
What a great report, many thanks for taking the time. Something I did not quite understand; On day 1 you went to Classic on day 2 and 3 to Classic Spa, is this two seperate places, or is it the same?
Cheers.
Be.There are several levels to Classic.
As you walk into the place, the ground floor entrance leads to a disco. For the sex club you need to get in the lift and go up to the second floor, there's a large room called Terminal, the massage / steam / sauna is on a separate floor. The sex rooms are separate.
I like the set up as the girls will shower in front of you. Loved watching them wash the pussy. 2nd time I went, I got into the shower and got BBBJ (squeezy space) from my lady on all 4's. True PSE lady, the only one of 5 ladies I did over 3 trips that was true PSE but each session I had was good to great. Each girl I did was picked from ladies sitting on a couch, all controlled by Mamasan. Some of the Mamas are very obnoxious. I just tipped this particular one each time as she would "help" me with selections based on my ideas.
Overall -.
Free admission but, Minimum spend 40 k, may be as much as 120 k depending on whether they can "gouge' you (Bule).
Short time 350 k, doubles are 500 k but I got Mamasan to line me up 2 goers (more likely to do what I wanted) so paid 700 k plus 50 k tip for Mama plus I tipped the girls 200 k ea.
On-stage dancers 1,500 k minimum to boom booms. I checked out a few but for the price of 4 women why pay 1 "model" MORE.
Beers 70 k, sodas 31 k.
Shots 45 k add 30% taxes etc.
You get given a wristband with a number when you enter the club, and pay your drinks bill on the way out. The cost of sex is paid separately upfront to a mamasan. You're then directed to a short time hotel room upstairs for 60 minutes.
I sat and talked with the PSE girl first by booking a table for one hour (I think it was 350 k for the hour), and add drinks I bought her and my 1 beer. But I get groped and massaged and fondled so I knew this girl was THE ONE. Drinks are not included. Or, just tell the mamasan which girl you want and head straight upstairs. All the Girls sit and wait on seats on the side.
Many girls will insist on condoms even for BJ. This is why I asked a certain Mamasan to help me. I used her girls each time as I was known after trip 1. There are some real lookers here, indeed as good or better than Malio IMHO, especially after 8 pm or so.
Over 4 trips to Classic I spent a total of 4. 9 M IDR. But that was doing everything I wanted. Great place. Travel is similar just more laid back.
Negatives are the smoke at night and Mamasans. Plus I despise the way they treat the ladies.
YMMV.
Pic below is from a blog, not mine (I don't take pics).
Offshore Swell
12-10-23, 06:44
We all ask ourselves the same question after our first trip to Jakarta. I've been trying to get some guys to go sine 2017 but they're so stuck in their ways in PP and Thailand and are "afraid" to try somewhere new. I guess they'll figure it out in another few years when Jakarta becomes more popular. By then it'll be too late as it'll be another place where we look back at the good old days.I bit Ironic then that the blabbers here are probably one of the things that will help spoil it the fastest. Talk about lemming like behaviour. Is Mr JSmith the only other one here that recognises that? Discretion is probably the one thing that separates the hard core punters from the sex tourists when it comes to Indonesia.
Expat American
12-10-23, 07:31
I bit Ironic then that the blabbers here are probably one of the things that will help spoil it the fastest. Talk about lemming like behaviour. Is Mr JSmith the only other one here that recognises that?. Discretion is probably the one thing that separates the hard core punters from the sex tourists when it comes to Indonesia.I think this notion that Jakarta will suddenly become a Bangkok is silly. 2023 saw 160 K visitor to Jakarta. In the same time over 20 M visited Bangkok. Jakarta is not on anyones tourist radar. Its too far from the West, few will take a 24 hour flight from US or Europe to get there. It does get some Asian clientele but I didn't notice a lot of them. It doesn't have the direct flights and connections that Bangkok has. It doesn't have a thousand You Tubers walking around with cameras and pointing at girls. The red light districts while awesome, are indoors and doesn't spill onto the streets like on the Suk. With a few exceptions it is catering to the local market. Except at Malio, I saw no white people (except those in our group) at any of the venues. It may come under fire from the religious brigade but it won't be because of foreign sex tourists.
Offshore Swell
12-10-23, 08:32
I think this notion that Jakarta will suddenly become a Bangkok is silly. 2023 saw 160 K visitor to Jakarta. In the same time over 20 M visited Bangkok. Jakarta is not on anyones tourist radar. Its too far from the West, few will take a 24 hour flight from US or Europe to get there. It does get some Asian clientele but I didn't notice a lot of them. It doesn't have the direct flights and connections that Bangkok has. It doesn't have a thousand You Tubers walking around with cameras and pointing at girls. The red light districts while awesome, are indoors and doesn't spill onto the streets like on the Suk. With a few exceptions it is catering to the local market. Except at Malio, I saw no white people (except those in our group) at any of the venues. It may come under fire from the religious brigade but it won't be because of foreign sex tourists.Can accept that line of reasoning and hopefully it plays out that way although an increase in bules is noticeable. What is hard is the one or two time visitors who suddenly become the go to authority here and constantly blab about the best places. Especially around BBFS. If there's ever a breakout of HIV or STI's you know who will get the blame and a big night of BB fun in Jakarta is one of life's great pleasures. That is worth preserving.
None of this detracts from your report, a quality read that will soon be buried amongst a lot of the burble that can go on here.
The less people that know the better, LOL.Truth is, many mongers in our hobby knows about Jakarta. So there is really no secrets for mongers.
It's more about comfort zone and habits more than anything else.
For most mongers, if they are use to a place and are repeat regulars, they often have an establish routine and built up Rolodex of girls. So why spend money on something uncertain when they already know what to expect. Some mongers are lucky as they live somewhat closer to Asia in general and can get much cheaper airfares to explore more places. I'm from Canada and it's not only expensive as f**k to book a ticket but the sometimes 20+ hrs travel with transfers to some Asian destinations will also drive you crazy. So many will not risk it and just go with tried and true.
Also, many prefer Philippines over all others as no language barrier and also liquor is cheap (for the drinkers).
As for me, I'm more the adventurous fellow so I'll go anywhere as long as its relatively safe (and cheap). I've done my tour of duty in a few shank ghetto slums in my time, got ripped off many times, had fun many times, got chased out a few times by pimps and mamas, but always in the pursuit of the mongers life.
Cheers all.
Hitting Jakarta in 2 weeks. Planning to visit the following places: Travel, Classic, Kota Indah, Malio club, Sugar Spa in North and BATS / CJ's in South, please correct me if I am wrong add more places if I missed out any. And how does one plan the mongering trip to max. Any scams / certain things I should be careful of. What is the best way to move around, grab! Thanks.
Member #3088
12-10-23, 15:01
Can accept that line of reasoning and hopefully it plays out that way although an increase in bules is noticeable. What is hard is the one or two time visitors who suddenly become the go to authority here and constantly blab about the best places. Especially around BBFS. If there's ever a breakout of HIV or STI's you know who will get the blame and a big night of BB fun in Jakarta is one of life's great pleasures. That is worth preserving.
None of this detracts from your report, a quality read that will soon be buried amongst a lot of the burble that can go on here.The negatives for Jakarta are real and will keep many away:
1. language barrier.
2. horrible traffic.
3. dreadful pollution.
4. as noted above, relatively inaccessible.
5. the venues are more or less 'underground', at least compared to Bangkok. It takes a little bit of work (not much) to find them.
I think Indonesia will remain a niche market for some time. And like you, Mr. OS and others, I hope it remains that way!
I don't think girls are hurting and I don't necessarily think my experiences are the "norm" and everyone should expect that. Other members of our group had varying success rates with the BBFS. I generally have good success even in Thailand (like 75%) but not with girls as hot as the ones in Jakarta. I am also not cheap charlie. If a girl pleases me the way I want, I make sure she is happy. The girl I repeated with at Classic Spa was thrilled to see me again and then her friend felt safe also and the 3 some worked. Repeating at a location and having a good reputation there helps. The first 3 some in Classic Bar, the girls were new so maybe that helped also. Or maybe I am just charming them. LOL. Either way, worked well for me.
Yes Malio Cover 150 K (10 USD). I didn't check out other areas this time.Just wonder, Did you take PreP regularly before engaging in BBFS and presumably CIP. ?? In some countries in Europe PreP is now available for free of charge, even for regular intake for those who could show reasons why they need them.
I knew a few Indosat's engineers and managers who live in Jakarta, including one who married a hot Garuda's flight attendant,
They laugh about the air pollution, heavy floods with trash and feces floating with heavy rains, cars and motor bikes dead in flood water, brothels where they can bag girls for $5, may be less with recent exchange rates.
These guys are religious, really nice and mellow, but party, smoke, drink heavily and partake girls behind their wives' backs every chance. They want me to visit. Would be fun to hang with those guys.Is the pope Catholics?? Let alone if you could bang his hot wife the Garuda's flight attendant, rofl
Bag girls for $5 ?? As matter of fact you MIGHT get it for free not just in Jakarta but anywhere in the world. But for this you will need to be lucky and in many cases you will need to meet some certain criteria. Ordinary people normally do not. All of the male pornstar are even getting paid to bang young hot looking girls.
Banana Boi
12-10-23, 19:29
I bit Ironic then that the blabbers here are probably one of the things that will help spoil it the fastest. Talk about lemming like behaviour. Is Mr JSmith the only other one here that recognises that?. Discretion is probably the one thing that separates the hard core punters from the sex tourists when it comes to Indonesia.I sure hope you're not calling me out as a blabber. Let me know if you are or are not.
I think this notion that Jakarta will suddenly become a Bangkok is silly. 2023 saw 160 K visitor to Jakarta. In the same time over 20 M visited Bangkok. Jakarta is not on anyones tourist radar.
Coincidentally I saw a chart on Facebook this morning with tourist stats for this year. IIRC I think it was 23 million to Thailand, not to Bangkok itself. Yes a large portion likely to Bangkok though. I think it was 6 million to Indonesia and yes most of those likely to Bali. I agree no one goes to Jakarta. Place is a dump with terrible traffic and an extra 3.5 hour plane ride no one wants to take from Thailand.
The number of people who read this Jakarta thread aren't going to make a difference. Now if I were posting this on a Japan, Korea, or China board then yes that could easily destroy Jakarta. I like the 365k price take in Jakarta as much as anyone else.
I think it's the guys who go around talking about BBFS here and BBFS there in all these countries who do more damage. That gets guys in to a city much quicker than me posting stuff about certain 'secret' areas in Jakarta. If anyone ever noticed I will NEVER post about BBFS availability in any country.
The less people that know the better, LOL.
If everyone hid all information and were lurkers then why have ISG? I only post about 20% of what I know in these forums. Imagine if I posted everything?
Offshore Swell
12-11-23, 05:37
I sure hope you're not calling me out as a blabber. Admin would like me to be more collegiate with my fellow mongers. From now on we shall call them "enthusiastic participants".
It´s actually quite a healthy discussion
Expat American
12-11-23, 05:47
I think it's the guys who go around talking about BBFS here and BBFS there in all these countries who do more damage. That gets guys in to a city much quicker than me posting stuff about certain 'secret' areas in Jakarta. If anyone ever noticed I will NEVER post about BBFS availability in any country.
As one guilty as charged of posting BBFS success stories, I feel compelled to point out that the above is simply not true. For example AO clubs in Germany have been well known for a long time where for 30 Euro you get BBFS. And yet when I went there the clubs were not packed and there was never another tourist besides me. All the tourists hung out in the main Frankfurt clubs. Similarly AC is well known for BBFS and has always been. Why then don't all the active participants on this board from all the other countries flock there? Do you go onto the Africa boards? There is tons of BBFS available all over Africa. Have you ventured there? Guys, first of all BBFS is available EVERYWHERE, if you know how to get it. Second, don't over inflate your own influence on global trends. Its effectively ZERO. And Third, people stick to what they know. I myself in 20+ years of mongering never went to Jakarta before this. Reports are for reading pleasure only. YMMV.
As one guilty as charged of posting BBFS success stories, I feel compelled to point out that the above is simply not true. For example AO clubs in Germany have been well known for a long time where for 30 Euro you get BBFS. And yet when I went there the clubs were not packed and there was never another tourist besides me. All the tourists hung out in the main Frankfurt clubs. Similarly AC is well known for BBFS and has always been. Why then don't all the active participants on this board from all the other countries flock there? Do you go onto the Africa boards? There is tons of BBFS available all over Africa. Have you ventured there? Guys, first of all BBFS is available EVERYWHERE, if you know how to get it. Second, don't over inflate your own influence on global trends. Its effectively ZERO. And Third, people stick to what they know. I myself in 20+ years of mongering never went to Jakarta before this. Reports are for reading pleasure only. YMMV.With the way social media, internet, and now AI has evolved.
It would not surprise me if Jakarta does start becoming a mongering destination at some point.
Prolly not in the immediate future I hope.
The evolution of the smart phone has made travelling so much easier.
I remember having to print out maps to navigate.
Now all I need to survive is a backpack and my phone.
Granite St8
12-12-23, 01:32
FR from a recent work trip to the south city.
Mars Spa- Friday 7 pm, the lounge is empty with about 10-12 girls sitting along the wall on the opposite side of the booths. The most pretty one was the only one looking at me but I wasn't in the mood for skinny with flat chest and chose a Latina type. Paid 450 k and found out my choice rejected me with the ole red day excuse. Back down I go and still the pretty skinny girl is eyeing me so I choose the path of least resistance and go with her.
Salsa 25 yo, is three months new to the scene coming from work as a department store promo girl. Definitely has a promo girl figure with those long legs, her tall and skinny shape not common here in Indo. She's a modest one keeping herself wrapped in towel for the massage. Her hands have a nice touch and became more sensual on the upper back after I initiate some touching of my own. Flip over and her towel is gone but the bra still on. Weird. Maybe she is shy to reveal her small chest. Made for for a nice GFE as I removed it and she is really enjoying being touched and caressed everywhere. She's a tender flower and I treat her as such. DFK eventually turns into DATY and a good time is being had. Ready for entry but she demands a raincoat before proceeding. Despite the skinny frame her bum is perfect with a good amount of meat to hold onto. Finished with a nice lay down together after for a few minutes to catch our breath. She was pleasant to chat with as I got dressed, bless her for listening to my basic childlike Bahasa. Time well spent.
Mr. Braid / G2 Spa- this was more of a recon mission. G2 no longer exists and a few doors down is Mr. Braid which has no subtlety to it whatsoever. Walk in the front door and bam everything hits you smack in the face. Enter the smoke filled lounge with two table with about 20 girls hanging out, a few bros around and the music absolutely banging loud. The girls looked a bit older and more seasoned than those at Mars. Piece of paper taped on the front desk reads 60 min 350 k in handwriting. Asked for April from a previous post but she is now at Emporium. Was not an inviting scene for me but maybe it is different during the day, would be curious to find out.
Aquarius Spa- Sat 7 p. Was too early for the lineup showing at 8 p so had to choose from the phone. Took the prettiest one with the porcelain doll look taking the chance she's not a starfish. VIP room with bed and useless tub is 750 k. The nice waiting lounge has nice jazz music and smoke free. Such a contrast to Braid.
Susanna 25 yo looked even better than her dollish photo as this spinner was well done up, hair, makeup, jewelry and all. She is certainly meticulous about her looks. A bit reserved but her good service began as she takes my removed clothes to perfectly fold and put aside. Impressive! She gets down to her underwear and her be cups are just a perfect complement to her small frame. Her massage skills are actually really good, damn does she have strong hands for such a small girl! She's all business, no teasing, no sensuality, no regard for my touching. If the rest is bad at least I got a good massage LOL. After the arms she says massage is done and next section is a very sensual penis massage. This provided my favorite image of the weekend as she sits on top of me, super focused, hair pulled back, seemingly enjoying my increasing arousal. Damn is she beautiful. Has a Japanese look with how she does her makeup and her small cheekbones. Next is the body massage where she rubs her chest on my unit and inches her way up to my chest where she stops and hugs down on me for a few moments which become a few moments longer. Unique. It was sweet and sexy and I was super turned on at this point. Time for her to shower. Realize this girl is a clean freak, I certainly know the type. Just hoped she wasn't a prude. Oh good she enjoys her beautiful breasts to be sucked but of course she is very ticklish. No BJ and nothing goes inside her vagina except a wrapped penis. Not a problem for me with this beauty. Sex was ok but she holds back and seems to not allow herself to enjoy pleasure. Maybe it's hard to do for some in this line of work. Or maybe I didn't last long enough to break through the resistance LOL. She returns to her comfort zone in the shower as her 5 star service continues with a thorough washing, enthusiastically scrubbing clean my body. Clean freaks loving what they do best. A memorable experience for sure.
Dheaven Spa- Sunday 6 pm. Busy time at this popular spot, old uncles walking around in bathrobes, Korean dudes heading to the sauna after their session. Choices were few (from a phone) and only slim girls were available. 21 yo Bella was all skin and bones but graced with beautiful perky nipples which stood out from her tiny frame that are just begging to be sucked. As is the norm with Dheaven girls from my experience, she had a good attitude with service that aimed to please. They do the shiatsu walk on your back routine. Let her ride me cowgirl. Good shag. This place never disappoints. 775 k. Pro tip: Play music on your phone during the session as here and Aquarius have nice rooms but are severely missing that important touch of vibes. Sets a mood different than just silence or noise from outside the room. This girl commented on how nice it was to have music. I like to put on some sexy downtempo beats.
A reference for those that care, all above service was covered with no attempt on my part for BB.
Lots of options too on Telegrams people nearby function. Girls promoting video sex and content a la Only fans and room in calls / outcalls with guidelines laid out. Even the hotel I stayed in had some girls working out of a room across the hall. Sex lurks everywhere in Jakarta! Great weekend, look forward to a return soon.
Krack Jack
12-12-23, 09:27
Just stumbled upon this underground forum by chance and will figure out membership soon. Great camaraderie here, wonderful and hopefully I'll add some in times to come. Hitting Jakarta in early Jan for a sex vacation. Live in Europe where this is either non existent or super expensive. Can some brother come to my rescue and share which spa brothels bars clubs to visit so time is not lost in planning and traffic, looking at full & sex only. No cover is not my game although rear end is. Time is my friend and I wish to plan some mega events, travelling with close buddies so looking at plenty of chicks under the shade. This is my first report so go easy on me. Like wine will get better with time. Yours truly Krack.
Coming to Jakarta in a couple of weeks and very excited. I plan to try Classic and Travel and various spas mentioned while RTFF. Very much enjoy a good rimjob. Which of these places is the best to receive this in your experience? Also, has any one tried the aptly named "Blow Art" places? They are quite far out and I'm not sure they're worth the time and effort.
Expat American
12-12-23, 14:56
Just stumbled upon this underground forum by chance and will figure out membership soon. Great camaraderie here, wonderful and hopefully I'll add some in times to come. Hitting Jakarta in early Jan for a sex vacation. Live in Europe where this is either non existent or super expensive. Can some brother come to my rescue and share which spa brothels bars clubs to visit so time is not lost in planning and traffic, looking at full & sex only. No cover is not my game although rear end is. Time is my friend and I wish to plan some mega events, travelling with close buddies so looking at plenty of chicks under the shade. This is my first report so go easy on me. Like wine will get better with time. Yours truly Krack.Dude. Literally two posts below yours are two detailed trip reports that in total mention almost 10 establishments. If you read a few pages you will get even more info. I get you are new here but we generally frown upon lazy posters who don't bother to even read a few pages before demanding others here to serve as their personal travel agent. Please if you are new to Asia, go to Thailand. Jakarta is not for you.
Nice TR "Expat American" . I know who you are, hahaha because I'm the ISG bro who told you about Holiday Inn Gajah Mada.
So the secret is out. Just embrace it Offshore Swell. You are complaining so much about the scene in Jakarta being "ruined", I think I know who you are as well hahaha.
Next time I go to Jakarta in 2024, I expect Holiday Inn's 400 rooms to all be filled with mongers, LOL.
Someone asked about PrEP. Yes, if you are doing any risky sexual behaviour, then for the girls sake and for yours and ours, take PrEP like I do. Also I used to take it for 2 or 3 days before my first session, but I read some new info and now on this and future trips, I'm taking it for a full 7 days before my first session.
Just catching up on this forum after coming back from a week in Jakarta. It was great to discover some new places, and finishing off my last night, with a 19 yo and 20 yo in Kotah Indah, getting back to my room at 4 am.
One tip for my next trip, I'm bringing my own green laser pointer!
Offshore Swell
12-14-23, 00:04
Nice TR "Expat American" . I know who you are, hahaha because I'm the ISG bro who told you about Holiday Inn Gajah Mada.
So the secret is out. Just embrace it Offshore Swell. You are complaining so much about the scene in Jakarta being "ruined", I think I know who you are as well hahaha.
Next time I go to Jakarta in 2024, I expect Holiday Inn's 400 rooms to all be filled with mongers, LOL.
Someone asked about PrEP. Yes, if you are doing any risky sexual behaviour, then for the girls sake and for yours and ours, take PrEP like I do. Also I used to take it for 2 or 3 days before my first session, but I read some new info and now on this and future trips, I'm taking it for a full 7 days before my first session.
Just catching up on this forum after coming back from a week in Jakarta. It was great to discover some new places, and finishing off my last night, with a 19 yo and 20 yo in Kotah Indah, getting back to my room at 4 am.
One tip for my next trip, I'm bringing my own green laser pointer!Ha Ha! OK dudes, peace. OS will now move on to more deviant activities than complaining. Like finding an agent in the adjoining city of his new rural residence to recruit willing young maidens for jiggy jig and finding a sutiable hung local bule companion of which we may both hunt on Kaskus for ladies who want to be DP'd by big bule cocks. Backdoor is a bit of a taboo topic for a lot of Indonesians. OS asked 3 of his favourite Mami's if they had any girls who liked it in the pantat and got a firm no back from each.
Expat American
12-14-23, 17:34
Just wonder, Did you take PreP regularly before engaging in BBFS and presumably CIP. ?? In some countries in Europe PreP is now available for free of charge, even for regular intake for those who could show reasons why they need them.I did take PreP but I think its overkill as risk of F2 M Vaginal HIV transmission is negligible. But since I was able to score some cheap generic PreP I decided to take the extra insurance. More important is protection from bacterial infections (Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphilis). The best known protocol for that is a course of Doxycycline after your trip or one daily during (if your trip is less than a week). Alternatively take 1 g Azithromycin single dose at the end of the trip. None of this is 100% but I think reduces the risk to a manageable level that I am comfortable with.
I did take PreP...Did you experience any side effects whatsoever from PreP?
I did take PreP but I think its overkill as risk of F2 M Vaginal HIV transmission is negligible. But since I was able to score some cheap generic PreP I decided to take the extra insurance. More important is protection from bacterial infections (Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphilis). The best known protocol for that is a course of Doxycycline after your trip or one daily during (if your trip is less than a week). Alternatively take 1 g Azithromycin single dose at the end of the trip. None of this is 100% but I think reduces the risk to a manageable level that I am comfortable with.Thanks. Will try that even though I don't BBFS I do DATY.
Offshore Swell
12-15-23, 00:20
I did take PreP but I think its overkill as risk of F2 M Vaginal HIV transmission is negligible. But since I was able to score some cheap generic PreP I decided to take the extra insurance. More important is protection from bacterial infections (Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphilis). The best known protocol for that is a course of Doxycycline after your trip or one daily during (if your trip is less than a week). Alternatively take 1 g Azithromycin single dose at the end of the trip. None of this is 100% but I think reduces the risk to a manageable level that I am comfortable with.Yup, awesome solution untill you get some skin infection years later and nothing you take clears it up. Here's a tip. Get yourself a little red bottle of betadine soap "Sabun Betadine" at any chain apotek, Watsons, Kimia Pharma etc. It's a povidone iodine antiseptic wash. Then after sex wash your major asset with it. It's a foaming wash. The girl will be impressed and may even ask if she can have some.
OS can vouch from exprience of barebacking hundreds of chickens that you will be protected against bacterial transmission of those characters. If you choose to creampie however, the risk is elevated as you have a better transmission conduit. Ya got to love those girls though. Half of them will be offended if you don't creampie them. If you have high moral standards like OS, you may politely enquire as to whether the lady uses contraception with the simple phrase Sudah KB. (Pronounced KahBeh). You will be surprised how many dont.
Antibiotic resistance is shaping up as one of the major global health issues . Drug companies wont invest in new antibiotics because hospitals put them in the drawer as the last line of defence to clear up the stuff that is resistant to everything else. Doxycycline is one of those.
Lastly while OS is on a moral rant. For those of you who watch too much porn and think that these girls get off on you choking them and slapping them around. Save that for your ugly cellulite ridden wife at home. A lot of these girls are in these places because they have landed on the wrong side of some village rat’s fists. It’s always interesting hearing their stories and they will tell you of any previous interactions with westerners. But running out of the room crying because some peanut brained bule is reliving his porn fantasies isn’t cool. And remember, Indonesians are really nice and really polite right up to the point that they are not and that includes security in those places. Once it’s on theres an awful lot of hangers on milling around who will throw a quick hit in purely because they can.
Expat American
12-15-23, 09:02
Yup, awesome solution untill you get some skin infection years later and nothing you take clears it up. Here's a tip. Get yourself a little red bottle of betadine soap "Sabun Betadine" at any chain apotek, Watsons, Kimia Pharma etc. It's a povidone iodine antiseptic wash. Then after sex wash your major asset with it. It's a foaming wash. The girl will be impressed and may even ask if she can have some.
OS can vouch from exprience of barebacking hundreds of chickens that you will be protected against bacterial transmission of those characters. If you choose to creampie however, the risk is elevated as you have a better transmission conduit. Ya got to love those girls though. Half of them will be offended if you don't creampie them. If you have high moral standards like OS, you may politely enquire as to whether the lady uses contraception with the simple phrase Sudah KB. (Pronounced KahBeh). You will be surprised how many dont.
Antibiotic resistance is shaping up as one of the major global health issues . Drug companies wont invest in new antibiotics because hospitals put them in the drawer as the last line of defence to clear up the stuff that is resistant to everything else. Doxycycline is one of those.
Lastly while OS is on a moral rant. For those of you who watch too much porn and think that these girls get off on you choking them and slapping them around. Save that for your ugly cellulite ridden wife at home. A lot of these girls are in these places because they have landed on the wrong side of some village rats fists. Its always interesting hearing their stories and they will tell you of any previous interactions with westerners. But running out of the room crying because some peanut brained bule is reliving his porn fantasies isnt cool. And remember, Indonesians are really nice and really polite right up to the point that they are not and that includes security in those places. Once its on theres an awful lot of hangers on milling around who will throw a quick hit in purely because they can.Betadiene is good general antiseptic for surface application, but I'm not sure it will prevent Chlamydia etc because those buggers go up your urethra where you can't get the soap. Its not a bad protocol to use it, but its not the same as antibiotics so you can use both. Antibiotic resistance is real and if I lived in Jakarta or something I couldn't take it all the time. I usually only do 3 day mongering visits a few times a year so I think its okay. And for the last paragraph, I assume its not addressed to me because I never treat the girl badly and every time girls have been happy to repeat. But yes, treat them kindly, they have a hard life.
TravelingMan3
12-16-23, 01:08
Well it looks like I'm going to be headed this way I live in Pattaya but I'm in the states right now and decided to take a trip before returning just a couple of days. I've read the forum and know the spots one thing I don't know is what time does classic club open or is it 24 hrs I get in early in the morning and wouldn't mind heading straight over after I check into my room.
....... only slim girls were available......I remember when this could have been said of many establishments in Thailand, not any more. I better get to Indonesia again before this changes.
Banana Boi
12-16-23, 23:30
I remember when this could have been said of many establishments in Thailand, not any more. I better get to Indonesia again before this changes.I wouldn't describe Jakarta girls as slim. They're curvy. If you want slim go to Ho Chi Minh. No fat girls whatsoever.
I wouldn't describe Jakarta girls as slim. They're curvy. If you want slim go to Ho Chi Minh. No fat girls whatsoever.I would say many of the Indo girls body I've been with differ with age. The teens tend to be slim. 20's had a bit more curves and some bit more fat. 30's more so. But for some reason, some of the 40's I've seen seem to get thinner again (at least the ones from the FL clubs).
On average, the Indo girls tend to be slightly more plumb than the average Thai of the same age.
Many of the Cambodian girls I've had on average are also more plumb than the Indo.
But you are correct, the Viets are generally slim at all ages but also have smaller boobs (same with the Chinese girls).
Expat American
12-17-23, 17:23
I wouldn't describe Jakarta girls as slim. They're curvy. If you want slim go to Ho Chi Minh. No fat girls whatsoever.I found all types there. Interestingly even some very slim girls had decent sized natural tits. But also found some skinny flat chested ones. And many with womanly curves. Didn't see porky ones like in the Phils. Also every girl there was below 25. And no fake boobs and few tats. I was highly impressed.
HunchBack74
12-21-23, 06:56
I lived and worked in Jakarta 20 odd years ago. Back then the go to places were CJ's and be. A. T. S to pick up freelancers at around IDR350 K per pop ST, IDR500 k LT and the occasional 9/10's asking for around IDR700 K. Blok M was also very much alive, and there were places like Tiga Puluh (had a few good nights) and also Blowfish, Dragonfly etc.
So this trip was very much a walk down memory lane. Staying in the Harmoni area. Some decent hotels (Yello, Harris, Grand Mercure (around there. Walking distance to Malio and close to Classic, Travel etc.
BATS / CJ's. No longer like the glory days. I went fully expecting to meet the daughters of the previous generation who worked there 20 years ago. Instead I found probably women of that vintage still there. However to be fair I had a fantastic night out in CJ's. Decent band. Alcohol was expensive (IDR200 k for a bottle of corona - 1st bottle included in the entrance fee). I perched myself in the counter along the walkway to the washrooms, and got to checkout the girls enroute. A smile and a nod went a long way and I ended up talking to a fair few of the women who were there and had a bit of a laugh with them. Funniest thing as I was not on a mission to pick up and was just there to watch the world go by, the ladies were relaxed and friendly and pointed out punters that they did not like and had a bad reputation. Some of the ladies were regular office admin workers who came there after work for extra cash. All in all very interesting women in there mid to late 30's / early 40's, and back in blighty I would have had no qualms taking them back. But here in Jakarta expectations are a bit higher. There were some younger females in the there 20's. Again, very friendly, but less inclined to stop and chat. Would say they were solid 6/7's. Prices. Don't have a clue, as I wasn't asking but when you go down to the lobby there were a few ladies scattered around on the arm chairs (easy to chat and discuss prices) and one pretty attractive younger female quote IDR1. 2 m. Similar scenario in BATS in the Mulia Lobby. I would say that is fairly reasonable benchmark. What I do like about CJ's however is, it is more of an experience meeting, having a chat and taking someone back. The level of English was higher and you can more of a GFE, if you are willing to compromise a bit on the age and looks. Probably a few gems to be found if you invest the time and resources going there regularly.
Classic. Don't need to say much about classic. Enough in the forum. Be polite to the security guards and they are very friendly. Visited around 6 pm. Just go in, up the escalator to the second floor. Ignore the mamasans politely and head to the bar and get a beer. I think it was about IDR110 k. They give you one of these wrist bands with a number. I say myself on a table and eventually a mamasan came over, who was not pushy. Look out for her or ask for her. Her name is Aggie. Asked me what I wanted and she brought out a very attractive young lady, who turned out to be 19 and a solid 7. Mamasan advised me beforehand that 'had no baby' (true). Asked me if I was a duo. Greed got the better of me and I said OK. Proceed to bring alone another attractive female (solid 6) who was 20. Paid the IDR550 k for the both of them and went down to the rooms with my beer in hand.
The threesome was not one in the true sense of the word. The girls did not interact with each other. More a case of taking turns with each. It was good for the experience but if there is a next time I think I would stick to one and focus fully on her.
A bit of performance anxiety did creep up, with one watching while a had my way with the 19 year old. But each to his own. Others may like having an audience. Anyway the whole thing was an experience, but all in all its just a pump and dump (re) production line, and probably not for all. Personally I much prefer picking up in a place like Thermae in Bangkok, or Ipanema in Singapore (in the old days). Or Thai Friendly and spending a bit of time getting to know them before doing the deed.
MIght check out Malio. I think the quality would better (but more expensive) but essentially it is still a pump and dump and I think I prefer trying to meet some semi-professionals. I have been told to check out Basque and I might pop into Dragonfly to see what is about.
Other interesting things I noted. Along Jl Hayam Wuruk near grand mercure and along the stretch there are pimps on scooters parked along with 3 or so ladies around 2 am in the morning, I did not partake as its not my scene, but just get your bluebird driver to do a bit of kerb crawling and you can check out the score.
Dating apps are a bit hit and miss. But the women here like their young 'Bule' (I am neither) so others may have differing levels of success. The matches I got were 6/7 in there 30's which I did not pursue.
Final thoughts Jakarta as a punting destination. In its favour, it's cheap. Its plentiful, for pump and dump. I think there is enough variety to satisfy every palate and price point. Other than that great local cuisine, but not much else to do than shopping malls. Perhaps a stopover on the way to Bali may be better. A local I know however advised that I forget Bali and go to Labuan Bojo which is the next tourist hotspot.
If you have a few weeks / months to spare, and you can get to the local scene with regular people (used to be in it) it's more rewarding. However for purely punting purposes, Bangkok / Thailand still wins hands down and I doubt I will bother again, unless it is to meet old local friends and invest some time in dating etc.
Does anyone know a good call-in service in Jakarta? Meaning they can send a beautiufl girl to my place for massage? I know, I am better of going to one of the many great spas in the area.
Admin would like me to be more collegiate with my fellow mongers. From now on we shall call them "enthusiastic participants".
Its actually quite a healthy discussionNaw, you were spot on the first time.
Krack Jack
12-24-23, 12:00
Was down with covid and in between RTFF done. Thanks expat for your kind words of encouragement. I have a few Q's, please be nice and reply.
1. Need to be vary of ladyboys? Lots of them in SEA.
2. mongers are complaining of the horrendous traffic, any which way to get past this, like grab bike rides.
3. Any BJ bars like in thailand.
4. top 3 punting houses and any for INTERNATIONAL talent.
5. language barrier with ladies.
6. usual scams if any.
Hitting Bali after this.
Dude. Literally two posts below yours are two detailed trip reports that in total mention almost 10 establishments. If you read a few pages you will get even more info. I get you are new here but we generally frown upon lazy posters who don't bother to even read a few pages before demanding others here to serve as their personal travel agent. Please if you are new to Asia, go to Thailand. Jakarta is not for you.
MarquisdeSade1
12-24-23, 21:02
"Everything is smooth at Jakarta airport but it's irrelevant if you have checked bags which you have to wait an hour for.
This is the most interesting statement for me after reading your review. Classic and Travel are not really known for BBFS for first time customers and even more difficult if you take 2 girls. In fact, most demanding guys complain about the service at Classic and Travel. Girls must really be hurting for business if this is the new norm at Classic and Travel.
Don't think the bad press at Malioboro is because you can't have fun there with beautiful girls. The bad press comes from the high prices the girls demand ie. 40-60 drinks just for a BJ.
Is cover still $10 US? Did you check out the other floors?
We all ask ourselves the same question after our first trip to Jakarta. I've been trying to get some guys to go sine 2017 but they're so stuck in their ways in PP and Thailand and are "afraid" to try somewhere new. I guess they'll figure it out in another few years when Jakarta becomes more popular. By then it'll be too late as it'll be another place where we look back at the good old days. ".
Classic and Travel are not really known for BBFS for first time customers and even more difficult if you take 2 girls?
Well while this is a well written report I have my concerns with the veracity of it, I suspect at best a huge amount of hyperbole or beer goggles reporting, just add alcohol.
Dark smokey venues loud music with horny guys and you get very inaccurate information.
First off quality is subjective, what he describes as awesome talent is not so awesome to me, but I don't drink, so theres that.
Also I think I'm a decent looking guy in 6' 2" blonde hair blue not fat or old (yet).
And he doesn't mention that many of these girls don't like white guys, especially the better looking ones, I think they have plenty of customers and they don't need a negative rep from the locals that see them going with white guys, nobody will care about the less attractive ones.
This report is so over the top positive it can be read like a paid infomercial.
The BBFS comments are very suspect, I don't like condoms, but will say the chance of this being 100% accurate.
Is likely to be close to 0% if not 0%.
He mentioned hes not a "cheap charlie" well that reads as deliberately misleading, firstly unless you're doing many repeats (the girls wouldn't know this) and you have been around years that might help.
But for just a couple days? I feel that's a completely dishonest comment, and as far as not being a cheap charlie I don't think if Brad Pitt walked into these places throwing cash around, that would make a any difference at least not to the better looking ones, they get plenty of locals and wouldn't care.
In my experience there, all of this seems quite unlikely.
Jakarta has a ton of negatives but he doesn't really touch on them.
"I know other posters have had different experiences and I don't know why but this was my experience".
This comment suggests he doesn't expect this post to be received as very credible, so he won't be surprised when it isn't.
I just wish when guys want to rave about how great a place is, post a few face pics, and please let them be of girls you actually did there BBFS.
In closing lolol some guys like telling big fish stories, this is the perfect format for it.
Go to any bar or brothel or gym in the world.
And you will see them with several gullible guys listening in.
They love the attention.
My policy is take each report with a grain of salt.
There are too many bullshitters in the world, read with caution.
When I started reading ISG I was gullible and took huge expensive trips to places and spent lots of cash only to find out who I listened to.
Either was a bullshitting cheerleader or had way different standards than I.
Do what you want when you read reports like this.
But I operate from the assumption that its all inaccurate / bullshit.
And work from there.
If one monger writes a glowing report about a place, 10000 miles away from your home.
You may want to proceed with caution!!
Expat American
12-25-23, 06:42
Well while this is a well written report I have my concerns with the veracity of it, I suspect at best a huge amount of hyperbole or beer goggles reporting, just add alcohol.
Dark smokey venues loud music with horny guys and you get very inaccurate information.
First off quality is subjective, what he describes as awesome talent is not so awesome to me, but I don't drink, so theres that.
Also I think I'm a decent looking guy in 6' 2" blonde hair blue not fat or old (yet).
And he doesn't mention that many of these girls don't like white guys, especially the better looking ones, I think they have plenty of customers and they don't need a negative rep from the locals that see them going with white guys, nobody will care about the less attractive ones.
This report is so over the top positive it can be read like a paid infomercial.
The BBFS comments are very suspect, I don't like condoms, but will say the chance of this being 100% accurate.
Is likely to be close to 0% if not 0%.
He mentioned hes not a "cheap charlie" well that reads as deliberately misleading, firstly unless you're doing many repeats (the girls wouldn't know this) and you have been around years that might help.
But for just a couple days? I feel that's a completely dishonest comment, and as far as not being a cheap charlie I don't think if Brad Pitt walked into these places throwing cash around, that would make a any difference at least not to the better looking ones, they get plenty of locals and wouldn't care.
In my experience there, all of this seems quite unlikely.
Jakarta has a ton of negatives but he doesn't really touch on them.
"I know other posters have had different experiences and I don't know why but this was my experience".
This comment suggests he doesn't expect this post to be received as very credible, so he won't be surprised when it isn't.
I just wish when guys want to rave about how great a place is, post a few face pics, and please let them be of girls you actually did there BBFS.
In closing lolol some guys like telling big fish stories, this is the perfect format for it.
Go to any bar or brothel or gym in the world.
And you will see them with several gullible guys listening in.
They love the attention.
My policy is take each report with a grain of salt.
There are too many bullshitters in the world, read with caution.
When I started reading ISG I was gullible and took huge expensive trips to places and spent lots of cash only to find out who I listened to.
Either was a bullshitting cheerleader or had way different standards than I.
Do what you want when you read reports like this.
But I operate from the assumption that its all inaccurate / bullshit.
And work from there.
If one monger writes a glowing report about a place, 10000 miles away from your home.
You may want to proceed with caution!!So instead of impinging on my credibility why don't you actually post a trip report?
EDIT: I went and looked at all your recent posts. You are just a troll. Probably jerking off in mommy basement.
Was down with covid and in between RTFF done. Thanks expat for your kind words of encouragement. I have a few Q's, please be nice and reply.
1. Need to be vary of ladyboys? Lots of them in SEA.
2. mongers are complaining of the horrendous traffic, any which way to get past this, like grab bike rides.
3. Any BJ bars like in thailand.
4. top 3 punting houses and any for INTERNATIONAL talent.
5. language barrier with ladies.
6. usual scams if any.
Hitting Bali after this.1. It is easy to identify. Or you can ask. In my experience, ladyboys never shy from accepting that they are one.
2. Stay close to the hot spots.
3. Read Forum.
4. Read Forum.
5. Use Google Translae.
6. Scams happen everywhere. Just think twice and stay away from shady places.
Krack Jack
12-25-23, 07:28
Generic reply and probably of no use. Plus I see you are not from this forum so I see no point, Jakarta members share and participate, knock knock.
1. It is easy to identify. Or you can ask. In my experience, ladyboys never shy from accepting that they are one.
2. Stay close to the hot spots.
3. Read Forum.
4. Read Forum.
5. Use Google Translae.
6. Scams happen everywhere. Just think twice and stay away from shady places.
MarquisdeSade1
12-25-23, 09:44
"So instead of impinging on my credibility why don't you actually post a trip report?
EDIT: I went and looked at all your recent posts. You are just a troll. Probably jerking off in mommy basement. ".
I rest my case!!
MarquisdeSade1
12-25-23, 10:00
"I found all types there. Interestingly even some very slim girls had decent sized natural tits. But also found some skinny flat chested ones. And many with womanly curves. Didn't see porky ones like in the Phils. Also every girl there was below 25. And no fake boobs and few tats. I was highly impressed. ".
"Also every girl there was below 25" SERIOUSLY.
Probably every venue I visited the MAJORITY was over 25.
Kings Cross CJs BATs KI Travel Classic Malio and some smaller brothels et al.
So you were either very drunk or very blind.
Yes most of these venues are very very dark.
Also every girl there was below 25? But seriously? Now me thinks you are deliberately into fibbing.
"I know other posters have had different experiences and I don't know why but this was my experience".
Keep those words in mind! They apply to yourself too!
MarquisdeSade1
12-25-23, 18:44
"Keep those words in mind! They apply to yourself too!
Incoherent much?
Expat American
12-26-23, 07:24
"I found all types there. Interestingly even some very slim girls had decent sized natural tits. But also found some skinny flat chested ones. And many with womanly curves. Didn't see porky ones like in the Phils. Also every girl there was below 25. And no fake boobs and few tats. I was highly impressed. ".
"Also every girl there was below 25" SERIOUSLY.
Probably every venue I visited the MAJORITY was over 25.
Kings Cross CJs BATs KI Travel Classic Malio and some smaller brothels et al.
So you were either very drunk or very blind.
Yes most of these venues are very very dark.
Also every girl there was below 25? But seriously? Now me thinks you are deliberately into fibbing.Ok Dude. If that makes you happier in your miserable existence to just sit there and criticize my accurate and detailed report of my personal experience, go ahead. If you have actual experience you could post your own TR. But its much easier to take pot shots at other people who actually contribute useful and meaningful reports isn't it? Especially when you probably don't even have a passport. Go to the Pattaya forum and link up with other trolls there you will at least have some company of other losers. LOL.
Hung Man 1808
12-26-23, 10:24
It seems some are finding mommie's basement a bit underwelming over Christmas, so here they are to spread the misery. Once they can venture outside again (or get bored from lack of responses, hint hint people) they'll move on.
Unfortunately that still leaves us wishing for September next year to roll around sooner rather than later. I doubt we'll get a minute by minute report on the most planned three days ever in the history of visting Jakarta though.
Maybe AI can be set up to automatically provide the most appropriate response to the standard "girl friendly hotel / places to find girls / contact numbers / hold my hand and show me" requests: RTFF.
That's enough, need to save my typing quota for the responses to the real genuine girls I've met in Indo in response to 'send 200 k (it's always 200 k) for nude videos / photos' or 'sakit mother / father / child / baby / mami send money' or even 'when you back. I miss you bebe' so my time there is maximised. Which won't be detailed here in a blow by blow report.
I lived and worked in Jakarta 20 odd years ago. Back then the go to places were CJ's and be. A. T. S to pick up freelancers at around IDR350 K per pop ST, IDR500 k LT and the occasional 9/10's asking for around IDR700 K. Blok M was also very much alive, and there were places like Tiga Puluh (had a few good nights) and also Blowfish, Dragonfly etc.
So this trip was very much a walk down memory lane. Staying in the Harmoni area. Some decent hotels (Yello, Harris, Grand Mercure (around there. Walking distance to Malio and close to Classic, Travel etc.
........
.I like your report as it is equivalent to my experience from the past and expectations nowadays.
Contrary to other monger destinations, the prices did not change as much. Except the demands of 2 Mio and more of the more mature and "frequently-fucked" ladies at BAT's and Cj's. In the panti pijat you can apparently still find the younger, less professional generation to treat you well as bule.
What is totally gone are the brothel-areas for a 70.000 Rps ST. But well. I still will give it a try again in near future on memory lane.
Offshore Swell
12-26-23, 12:56
Was down with covid and in between RTFF done. Thanks expat for your kind words of encouragement. I have a few Q's, please be nice and reply.
1. Need to be vary of ladyboys? Lots of them in SEA.
2. mongers are complaining of the horrendous traffic, any which way to get past this, like grab bike rides.
3. Any BJ bars like in thailand.
4. top 3 punting houses and any for INTERNATIONAL talent.
5. language barrier with ladies.
6. usual scams if any.
Hitting Bali after this.Hello good sir. OS shall now help you with your enquiries. Please excuse the delay in replying. OS has been busy attending other matters.
1.
Ladyboys. Yes definitely around. Your safest bet is to have the request for no ladyboys saved on your phone in the local dialect " Gue ngilir banci". Show this to any in your circle of assistance, hotel concierges, mamasans, etc etc.
2.
Jakarta traffic can be horrendous. You are correct. OS would recommend the by Grab which is the predominant motorcycle taxi service. They have a new service called Grab Feel. With only young female riders and as the name suggests with relatively modest charge, your hands are free to wander during the ride. This will ensure you arrive at your destination all barred up and ready for action.
3.
Blowjob bars. Sadly, not anymore. In days gone by you could be fellated whilst enjoying your beer at Dee's Place bar in Blok M. Why OS remebers dumping a load of cum with his big thing into some maiden sitting on a bar stool in the corner there. Then finishing his beer, getting up and leaving. While she squatted over the waste paper basket scooping out all his splooge.
4.
Top three punting houses. Classic, Malioboro and Travel For INTERNATIONAL. Go to 1001.
5.
Language barriers with the ladies. Well you're in Indonesia. The girls may speak Javanese, Sundanese, Bahasa Indonesia and if lucky. English. What were you hoping for?
6.
Scams. You may be subsceptible here. The 100 scam is doing the rounds just now. An Indonesian will approach you and ask if they can hold your wallet. After you give it to them they will then ask you to close your eyes and count to 100. The really funny bit is when you open your eyes. There's so many of them and they all look the same. You can't work out which one you gave your wallet to. It's a deceptively simple scam and a number of posters here have fallen for it, some more than once.
Lastly, beware of the Sharia police, they have a habit of knowing what seedy old farts like you are up to. A lashing at their hands is never enjoyable.
We are all really excited you are coming to Jakarta and ditto all those Balinese waiting for you to hit them.
Joe Brooklyn
12-26-23, 19:39
Lastly, beware of the Sharia police, they have a habit of knowing what seedy old farts like you are up to. A lashing at their hands is never enjoyable.This was one of the first issues I brought up on this forum, and was lambasted for it. So, now that you mention it, I'll ask again: How much of a danger are the 'Sharia police' to western mongers? Details appreciated.
So first impressions: some of the feedback here is great but perhaps a little out of date. SIM Card at airport costs like 350 k, the bluebird taxis ask for 450 k, the app ones charge 265 k. Had some dinner at the Gajah Mada food court, not great. Went to Classic around 10 pm, it's true what they say about how pushy the mamasan are, very annoying. I wanted to get a feel of the place, and they literally won't take no for an answer. Perhaps my expectations were too high but the talent, whilst not terrible, wasn't great. I wasn't even in the mood but just to run the course, I settled for a young lady who was easy on the eye. Not bad service but it's not something you would necessarily want to travel thousands of miles for. Jkk isn't mindblowing. Anyway, I hope to meet a Tinder date and go to some other places mentioned in the forum so hopefully things will get better.
Offshore Swell
12-27-23, 04:42
This was one of the first issues I brought up on this forum, and was lambasted for it. So, now that you mention it, I'll ask again: How much of a danger are the 'Sharia police' to western mongers? Details appreciated.Hmm, difficult to quantify the risk. Everythings good fun untill they catch you with your pants down. The women are the worst Fat sadists in jilbabs, but the force seems to attract the zealots. They're mean.
Before you come you should sew maybe five US $100 bills into your shirt and wear it everywhere, even if you smell. Don't take it off. If theres a knock on the door when you are with a girl. Put your shirt on first. Don't worry about your dangly old nuts hanging down. When they kick the door in you should be wearing that shirt.
Another trick which OS often does is to dress like them. You can go to Tanah Abang textile market and get yourself some religous robes. There's a whole floor of stalls. OS will dress up like them for a nights partying and instead of handcuffs, the Sharia police are high fiving you when the raid happens.
Another advantage of this kind of robe is it's very easy to relieve yourself without anybody noticing if the toilet isn't clean or simply not available. You can walk up to the bus stop and pretend to be reading the timetable and then just walk away nonchalantly, leaving behind a pile or a puddle depending on your movement.
It sounds scary but with a little subterfuge. The sharia police are quite easy to negotiate.
LoveItHere69
12-27-23, 05:57
So instead of impinging on my credibility why don't you actually post a trip report?
EDIT: I went and looked at all your recent posts. You are just a troll. Probably jerking off in mommy basement.He was on the Colombian forum a few years back. He has never been anywhere or done anything. Everyone from the Colombian forum were saying the same thing: "troll", "mom's basement", etc, etc, and so on. ADMINs need to delete his access to this entire website!
Hello good sir. OS shall now help you with your enquiries. Please excuse the delay in replying. OS has been busy attending other matters.
1.
Ladyboys. Yes definitely around. Your safest bet is to have the request for no ladyboys saved on your phone in the local dialect " Gue ngilir banci". Show this to any in your circle of assistance, hotel concierges, mamasans, etc etc.
2.
Jakarta traffic can be horrendous. You are correct. OS would recommend the by Grab which is the predominant motorcycle taxi service. They have a new service called Grab Feel. With only young female riders and as the name suggests with relatively modest charge, your hands are free to wander during the ride. This will ensure you arrive at your destination all barred up and ready for action.
3.
Blowjob bars. Sadly, not anymore. In days gone by you could be fellated whilst enjoying your beer at Dee's Place bar in Blok M. Why OS remebers dumping a load of cum with his big thing into some maiden sitting on a bar stool in the corner there. Then finishing his beer, getting up and leaving. While she squatted over the waste paper basket scooping out all his splooge.
4.
Top three punting houses. Classic, Malioboro and Travel For INTERNATIONAL. Go to 1001.
5.
Language barriers with the ladies. Well you're in Indonesia. The girls may speak Javanese, Sundanese, Bahasa Indonesia and if lucky. English. What were you hoping for?
6.
Scams. You may be subsceptible here. The 100 scam is doing the rounds just now. An Indonesian will approach you and ask if they can hold your wallet. After you give it to them they will then ask you to close your eyes and count to 100. The really funny bit is when you open your eyes. There's so many of them and they all look the same. You can't work out which one you gave your wallet to. It's a deceptively simple scam and a number of posters here have fallen for it, some more than once.
Lastly, beware of the Sharia police, they have a habit of knowing what seedy old farts like you are up to. A lashing at their hands is never enjoyable.
We are all really excited you are coming to Jakarta and ditto all those Balinese waiting for you to hit them.
Hmm, difficult to quantify the risk. Everythings good fun untill they catch you with your pants down. The women are the worst Fat sadists in jilbabs, but the force seems to attract the zealots. They're mean.
Before you come you should sew maybe five US $100 bills into your shirt and wear it everywhere, even if you smell. Don't take it off. If theres a knock on the door when you are with a girl. Put your shirt on first. Don't worry about your dangly old nuts hanging down. When they kick the door in you should be wearing that shirt.
Another trick which OS often does is to dress like them. You can go to Tanah Abang textile market and get yourself some religous robes. There's a whole floor of stalls. OS will dress up like them for a nights partying and instead of handcuffs, the Sharia police are high fiving you when the raid happens.
Another advantage of this kind of robe is it's very easy to relieve yourself without anybody noticing if the toilet isn't clean or simply not available. You can walk up to the bus stop and pretend to be reading the timetable and then just walk away nonchalantly, leaving behind a pile or a puddle depending on your movement.
It sounds scary but with a little subterfuge. The sharia police are quite easy to negotiate.Damn good advice OS. I wish somebody had told me that before the first time I set foot in Tanamur. Can somebody please put links to these in the "Reports of Distinction" thread, to preserve them for posterity?
Thanks OS for the well defined reply. I like the grab feel option, will opt for it when in town to get started early.
And I had the same 3 choices as yours, can you share 1001 for intl chicks, was it called 1001 colosseum or 1001 pool. Wasn't it shut, if still open great will visit for sure. Where is it, for translation will have my translator handy. And finally thanks for the alert on police and scams. Will watchout for them.
My hotel has an in-house spa, can anyone tell me what is the going rate if I ask a lady to see me in my room.
Can anyone recommend nice FS spas near Manga Bessar area, I stay close by.
And finally which levels of classic & travel are doable and which ones to pass. Which bars to hit in malio and kota indah complex. I know Starmoon is pretty good.
Thanks a ton, guys.
Hello good sir. OS shall now help you with your enquiries. Please excuse the delay in replying. OS has been busy attending other matters.
1.
Ladyboys. Yes definitely around. Your safest bet is to have the request for no ladyboys saved on your phone in the local dialect " Gue ngilir banci". Show this to any in your circle of assistance, hotel concierges, mamasans, etc etc.
2.
Jakarta traffic can be horrendous. You are correct. OS would recommend the by Grab which is the predominant motorcycle taxi service. They have a new service called Grab Feel. With only young female riders and as the name suggests with relatively modest charge, your hands are free to wander during the ride. This will ensure you arrive at your destination all barred up and ready for action.
3.
Blowjob bars. Sadly, not anymore. In days gone by you could be fellated whilst enjoying your beer at Dee's Place bar in Blok M. Why OS remebers dumping a load of cum with his big thing into some maiden sitting on a bar stool in the corner there. Then finishing his beer, getting up and leaving. While she squatted over the waste paper basket scooping out all his splooge.
4.
Top three punting houses. Classic, Malioboro and Travel For INTERNATIONAL. Go to 1001.
5.
Language barriers with the ladies. Well you're in Indonesia. The girls may speak Javanese, Sundanese, Bahasa Indonesia and if lucky. English. What were you hoping for?
6.
Scams. You may be subsceptible here. The 100 scam is doing the rounds just now. An Indonesian will approach you and ask if they can hold your wallet. After you give it to them they will then ask you to close your eyes and count to 100. The really funny bit is when you open your eyes. There's so many of them and they all look the same. You can't work out which one you gave your wallet to. It's a deceptively simple scam and a number of posters here have fallen for it, some more than once.
Lastly, beware of the Sharia police, they have a habit of knowing what seedy old farts like you are up to. A lashing at their hands is never enjoyable.
We are all really excited you are coming to Jakarta and ditto all those Balinese waiting for you to hit them.
This posts helps everyone, IMHO. I am in Jakarta soon. Thanks OS again. I had all these Q's and many more.
Hello good sir. OS shall now help you with your enquiries. Please excuse the delay in replying. OS has been busy attending other matters.
1.
Ladyboys. Yes definitely around. Your safest bet is to have the request for no ladyboys saved on your phone in the local dialect " Gue ngilir banci". Show this to any in your circle of assistance, hotel concierges, mamasans, etc etc.
2.
Jakarta traffic can be horrendous. You are correct. OS would recommend the by Grab which is the predominant motorcycle taxi service. They have a new service called Grab Feel. With only young female riders and as the name suggests with relatively modest charge, your hands are free to wander during the ride. This will ensure you arrive at your destination all barred up and ready for action.
3.
Blowjob bars. Sadly, not anymore. In days gone by you could be fellated whilst enjoying your beer at Dee's Place bar in Blok M. Why OS remebers dumping a load of cum with his big thing into some maiden sitting on a bar stool in the corner there. Then finishing his beer, getting up and leaving. While she squatted over the waste paper basket scooping out all his splooge.
4.
Top three punting houses. Classic, Malioboro and Travel For INTERNATIONAL. Go to 1001.
5.
Language barriers with the ladies. Well you're in Indonesia. The girls may speak Javanese, Sundanese, Bahasa Indonesia and if lucky. English. What were you hoping for?
6.
Scams. You may be subsceptible here. The 100 scam is doing the rounds just now. An Indonesian will approach you and ask if they can hold your wallet. After you give it to them they will then ask you to close your eyes and count to 100. The really funny bit is when you open your eyes. There's so many of them and they all look the same. You can't work out which one you gave your wallet to. It's a deceptively simple scam and a number of posters here have fallen for it, some more than once.
Lastly, beware of the Sharia police, they have a habit of knowing what seedy old farts like you are up to. A lashing at their hands is never enjoyable.
We are all really excited you are coming to Jakarta and ditto all those Balinese waiting for you to hit them.
Dude, you're hilarious! Brilliant post. Unfortunately, your irony / sarcasm is lost on some.
Grab Feel. LOL.
Hmm, difficult to quantify the risk. Everythings good fun untill they catch you with your pants down. The women are the worst Fat sadists in jilbabs, but the force seems to attract the zealots. They're mean.
Before you come you should sew maybe five US $100 bills into your shirt and wear it everywhere, even if you smell. Don't take it off. If theres a knock on the door when you are with a girl. Put your shirt on first. Don't worry about your dangly old nuts hanging down. When they kick the door in you should be wearing that shirt.
Another trick which OS often does is to dress like them. You can go to Tanah Abang textile market and get yourself some religous robes. There's a whole floor of stalls. OS will dress up like them for a nights partying and instead of handcuffs, the Sharia police are high fiving you when the raid happens.
Another advantage of this kind of robe is it's very easy to relieve yourself without anybody noticing if the toilet isn't clean or simply not available. You can walk up to the bus stop and pretend to be reading the timetable and then just walk away nonchalantly, leaving behind a pile or a puddle depending on your movement.
It sounds scary but with a little subterfuge. The sharia police are quite easy to negotiate.
So I thought it wouldn't get worse. Day two I had a tinder date, in fact 2, lined up. Cancelled the one with hot chick. Proceeded with the older lady on the premise she could potentially be a longer term / more serious thing. She chooses one of the most expensive places in town, takes me an hour getting there. She's older than she looks (and as she later intimites is a lot older than she said). She greets me with real affection and I thought we were about to make out. We approach the table, and there's a guy sitting there, she says it's her son. I think "wtf? No wait I mean, "WTF?" Am I in a Friends episode?
So I keep it cool and we proceed to the meal, it's difficult to make conversation as my head is still reeling, and her English is very poor. She signals her real interest in making it a real relationship before we've even had the drinks. I'm thinking of how to bail out. It's clear they want dinner. I resign myself to the evening. She wants later to know what we do after the dinner. I make my excuses on the basis that I'm not feeling great, which tbh I am really not. The bill comes to 1 Million. She signals she would appreciate money for her taxi. I give another 100 k. Whatever. It'll just have to come out of the starving children's charity budget. I take my Grab taxi but at the last stretch decide to rescue the evening by diverting to Classic.
On the ground floor I hadn't noticed there was another disco. I ask the receptionist if it's the same entry as the 2nd floor. He says it is. I go in, there are fair looking but completely indifferent looking girls and pretty empty. I decide to bail to the 2nd floor. It's clear I have to pay twice. That annoys me and despite paying I petulantly throw the exit pass on the receptionist desk. He gets angry in return and we argue. I ultimately control my anger and the other receptionist tells him to let it go. I feel later a little annoyed with myself. Yes, he screwed me, but what's the point of making a fuss for a couple of bucks? The darling earlier stiffed me for 30 x the amount.
Decide to choose an Indo girl from the overbearing mamasan. She is a little better than the one yesterday. However, my request for a mandi kucing (a term introduced by a helpful gent here) she finds hilarious but refuses to provide. Later she asks for a tip. I give her 100 k. Should I have? Who knows. The security on the way out asks for a tip for no valid reason. My pocket lighter and my heart and mind heavier I decide to call it a night. Let's see what the next few days bring.
GentileBear
12-27-23, 21:30
Maybe there are secret hidden forums here where WE are being made fun of. Maybe some here on this forum are simply high functioning autistic. I am un-sure but the last 2 or 3 pages of posts here make me question my sanity and intelligence. Maybe it's me being sober and having post nut clarity after a binge of unmentionables.
Are there some members dense enough to not realize they are the super glue Butt of a joke? Masterfully played gentlemen. I am in awe of the responses to some posts here.
Your trip sounds awful. I'd just stick to pay as you go forget tinder, and other apps most of the time they don't show and make excuses and cancel if they are serious make them come to you. Lots of time lost in traffic trying to meet them to forget that. Just try out as many places as you can. Forget arranging dates waste of time and Energy. How do you access this forum from Jakarta? I couldn't gain access.
So I thought it wouldn't get worse. Day two I had a tinder date, in fact 2, lined up. Cancelled the one with hot chick. Proceeded with the older lady on the premise she could potentially be a longer term / more serious thing. She chooses one of the most expensive places in town, takes me an hour getting there. She's older than she looks (and as she later intimites is a lot older than she said). She greets me with real affection and I thought we were about to make out. We approach the table, and there's a guy sitting there, she says it's her son. I think "wtf? No wait I mean, "WTF?" Am I in a Friends episode?
So I keep it cool and we proceed to the meal, it's difficult to make conversation as my head is still reeling, and her English is very poor. She signals her real interest in making it a real relationship before we've even had the drinks. I'm thinking of how to bail out. It's clear they want dinner. I resign myself to the evening. She wants later to know what we do after the dinner. I make my excuses on the basis that I'm not feeling great, which tbh I am really not. The bill comes to 1 Million. She signals she would appreciate money for her taxi. I give another 100 k. Whatever. It'll just have to come out of the starving children's charity budget. I take my Grab taxi but at the last stretch decide to rescue the evening by diverting to Classic..
Ok Dude. If that makes you happier in your miserable existence to just sit there and criticize my accurate and detailed report of my personal experience, go ahead. If you have actual experience you could post your own TR. But its much easier to take pot shots at other people who actually contribute useful and meaningful reports isn't it? Especially when you probably don't even have a passport. Go to the Pattaya forum and link up with other trolls there you will at least have some company of other losers. LOL.Hey, the Marquis is treating you with kid gloves. He's called me a full blown psychopath and thinks I'm trying to bring back slavery. For some reason he also seems to think I'm taking advantage of Asian slave labor and depriving Americans of jobs. That's all B.S. of course. If anything I overpay Third World hookers.
Good report BTW, I enjoyed it.
Banana Boi
12-28-23, 04:47
Went to Classic around 10 pm, it's true what they say about how pushy the mamasan are, very annoying. I wanted to get a feel of the place, and they literally won't take no for an answer. Perhaps my expectations were too high but the talent, whilst not terrible, wasn't great.Imo 10 pm is a bit late to go to Classic or Travel. Better off going at 6 or 7 pm. Just start walking around to the other groups of girls that don't belong to that mamasan. Just pretend mamasan is an annooying ex-GF who wants you back. The other more sure fire way is to agree to see every single girl from the mamasan who's following you around. After you reject every single one of them she will leave you alone. Once you become a known face at Classic, Travel or any other Jakarta bar mama / papasans are no longer a bother. In fact, they become very useful if you are looking for a girl you liked before or to let you know which girl is brand new.
The nominal cover charge is removed once you buy a drink or two. If you are known to the Classic staff you will also be allowed in and out as you wish with no cover.
Your trip sounds awful. I'd just stick to pay as you go forget tinder, and other apps most of the time they don't show and make excuses and cancel if they are serious make them come to you. Lots of time lost in traffic trying to meet them to forget that. Just try out as many places as you can. Forget arranging dates waste of time and Energy. How do you access this forum from Jakarta? I couldn't gain access.I think you're right. My Tinder inbox is burgeoning but after last night I'm twice shy. VPN is your friend in Jakarta. I use Windscribe which is free up to 20 GB per month, and if you install the chrome extension you can easily switch it on or off as needed.
Hung Man 1808
12-28-23, 18:40
Grab Feel is the best service I've never heard of this year. Actually make that next year as well.
I'm sticking to this service from now on to distract me from the terror of those sharia snipers dotted down the CBD. Lucky they're crap shots eh?
But I'm guessing OS survives his merry jaunts due to his dress sense. Tented up, I suppose you might even be able to play 'On Golden Pond' whilst grabbing a feel on the trip. Cmon OS, we know you have.
Joe Brooklyn
12-28-23, 19:47
Hmm, difficult to quantify the risk. Everythings good fun untill they catch you with your pants down. The women are the worst Fat sadists in jilbabs, but the force seems to attract the zealots. They're mean.
Before you come you should sew maybe five US $100 bills into your shirt and wear it everywhere, even if you smell. Don't take it off. If theres a knock on the door when you are with a girl. Put your shirt on first. Don't worry about your dangly old nuts hanging down. When they kick the door in you should be wearing that shirt.
Another trick which OS often does is to dress like them. You can go to Tanah Abang textile market and get yourself some religous robes. There's a whole floor of stalls. OS will dress up like them for a nights partying and instead of handcuffs, the Sharia police are high fiving you when the raid happens.
Another advantage of this kind of robe is it's very easy to relieve yourself without anybody noticing if the toilet isn't clean or simply not available. You can walk up to the bus stop and pretend to be reading the timetable and then just walk away nonchalantly, leaving behind a pile or a puddle depending on your movement.
It sounds scary but with a little subterfuge. The sharia police are quite easy to negotiate.Thanks for the valuable info.
Would a checkered sarong draw too much attention? If so, maybe I can go with more muted earth tones, like "dust", or "smog"? Want to blend in seamlessly with my drab surroundings.
Also, it's come to my attention that the typical annual salary in JK is about 104 m IDR. That breaks down to less than $130/ wk. I'm rather on the cheap side. Would it be ok if I sewed $20 bills into my shirt instead? $100 bills seems rather extravagant. I'd probably save a bundle this way when dealing with the Sharia police, all while keeping my modest profile.
MarquisdeSade1
12-29-23, 01:53
"he was on the Colombian forum a few years back. He has never been anywhere or done anything. Everyone from the Colombian forum were saying the same thing: "troll", "mom's basement", etc, etc, and so on. ADMINs need to delete his access to this entire website!
Its you again that homeless looking creepy stalker that wrote about stalking thetallman in the bushes in Medellin.
Now you are stalking me lololol keep your distance bro, I bite lololol.
And you also wrote how pinay hookers "walk on water" LMAO don't you belong back at that psychotic Medellin stupid shit thread? I'm sure those other whack jobs miss you? LOL NOT.
I'm guessing you don't remember meeting me a few years ago, you were probably in another alcoholic blackout.
You are the filthiest dirtiest nastiest disgusting monger I've ever met, you are even much worse than the homeless druggies rolling around in their own shit in the Bronx in Medellin.
You really need to bathe sometime bro, you give mongering a bad name!!
GentileBear
12-29-23, 04:08
This is who to avoid when traveling in Jakarta. They can also be seen on the way to Classic. Alchemy is illegal in Indonesia. So instead of Gold They make Silver. This is an under-cover Sharia Law Enforcer: Wilayatul Hisbah.
BenderOver
12-29-23, 04:56
the bluebird taxis ask for 450 kWhat? Did you see the meter in operation? From CGK to Thamrin, its about 200 k and that's pretty rich. You add about 40 k in highway tolls as you usually pass three booths to save quite a bit of time. So about 130 k meter, 40 k tolls, and another 40 k generous tip.
You have to make sure you're in an actual bluebird. There are light blue taxis with the corporate symbol painted on the car and it's not a bluebird. (Rare) more frequently are just no name cabs and they will 100% rip you off by either over metering you or by pre negotiating a double or triple rate. Also, silver birds are upscale bluebirds and legit cost more.
Blowjob bars. Sadly, not anymore. In days gone by you could be fellated whilst enjoying your beer at Dee's Place bar in Blok M. Why OS remebers dumping a load of cum with his big thing into some maiden sitting on a bar stool in the corner there. Then finishing his beer, getting up and leaving. While she squatted over the waste paper basket scooping out all his splooge.
Well, walking down memory lane, who remembers My Place (Bali Hai)? When you sit on a barstool, in a specific corner, you will be approached by several not very young women to give you a massage, a rub and / or a blowjob.
Imo 10 pm is a bit late to go to Classic or Travel. Better off going at 6 or 7 pm. Just start walking around to the other groups of girls that don't belong to that mamasan. Just pretend mamasan is an annooying ex-GF who wants you back. The other more sure fire way is to agree to see every single girl from the mamasan who's following you around. After you reject every single one of them she will leave you alone. Once you become a known face at Classic, Travel or any other Jakarta bar mama / papasans are no longer a bother. In fact, they become very useful if you are looking for a girl you liked before or to let you know which girl is brand new.
The nominal cover charge is removed once you buy a drink or two. If you are known to the Classic staff you will also be allowed in and out as you wish with no cover.Yes, your strategy works. The mamasans were a lot less annoying this time. My experience with Classic thus far is there's nothing wrong with it once you get the hang of the situation, but not entirely sure it's my scene. It is a meat market, and the girls all look bored or not wanting to be there. Bit of a turn off. Think I will broaden my horizons a little by focusing more on the independents. Am in discussion with one who agreed to spend 2 nights for a very decent price. She wants me to pay her train ticket which is taking a leap of faith but I may take the plunge.
What? Did you see the meter in operation? From CGK to Thamrin, its about 200 k and that's pretty rich. You add about 40 k in highway tolls as you usually pass three booths to save quite a bit of time. So about 130 k meter, 40 k tolls, and another 40 k generous tip.
You have to make sure you're in an actual bluebird. There are light blue taxis with the corporate symbol painted on the car and it's not a bluebird. (Rare) more frequently are just no name cabs and they will 100% rip you off by either over metering you or by pre negotiating a double or triple rate. Also, silver birds are upscale bluebirds and legit cost more.Interesting, maybe I got suckered. It was (at least I think) a genuine Bluebird kiosk and they told me it was a fixed rate I specified earlier. I eventually chose the Gojek at 260, which also is not cheap relative to your example.
Expat American
12-29-23, 17:38
I've been reading several posts here that describe experiences very different than my own (and of several buddies who I met up with). I think it comes down to this. If you are American and want a Western mongering experience like the kind you get in Thailand or Philippines you will be disappointed. If you want a girl to play games with you, and flirt and pretend they like you while you buy overpriced drinks, then Jakarta is really not for you. I have lived in Asia long enough to appreciate the Asian style of mongering. The mamasans, the line ups, the fishbowls and green laser pointers are all fine by me and I personally find it fun to "shop" for girls that way. Most of my buddies were Asian American and also comfortable with this. So YMMV is real but it mostly depends on what you expect to find. Jakarta is not Bangkok or Pattaya. You could go to limited places like Malio and get the drinks and fuck experience but it will cost more. The local scene which is cheap and plentiful works in a different way and if that's not for you just go to Thailand. As always, YMMV.
WhoCaresReally
12-29-23, 21:02
Airport is big and people are quite helpful and friendly. They are happy to assist you. Once I landed, visa on arrival was breeze as I had taken it online before travel. It took less than 5 mins. You nees to fill in the customs declaration online by scanning QR code which is displayed all across. Connect to CUSTOMS DEC WiFi and scan the QR code to fill in your details. There was a dog squad that sniffed my arse and that's it. You will find a SIM shop to your left once you exit. No esim is available for tourist. I also checked on IMEI registration with an official and I was told that it is not needed for max 90 days stay.
Departure.
Was again easy at immigration. Took 20 minutes to the final gate. Free WiFi is available only at gate F6. Sit here if you don't have internet on phone. Shops are before security checking and few food stalls near to the gate. My flight was at afternoon and the airport was not busy at all.
Money exchange - Many available in the city.1$ was 153000.A$50 got me 1000 less surprisingly.So, carry 100 bills.
Transportation.
You will find many private and app based taxis like grab, bluebird etc. I didn't had internet, so I used private taxi when I arrived. Cost was 250 K to Santika Premier Hotel near holiday Inn. My return taxi on grab costed 150 k for comparison. Download grab app which is very reliable and can be used for taxi, food ordering etc. You can pay by cash after each ride. I also used grab and gojek motorbike by directly talking to rider from clasic and travel back to hotel. They are available outside the gate usually or ask security to help stop one. Taxi were expensive to 4 times when I checked.
Where to stay.
I stayed at Santika premiere which was an excellent 4 star hotel. 5 minutes to travel and 8 mins to classic. Bes was great. Room service was excellent too. Breakfast was great with a seperate section for Indonesian cusine. Staff were very very helpful in all aspects. There is a restaurant at lobby level and also at 22nd floor. Sky loungue was not great and I did not find any freelancers here as mentioned by someone. Room was huge but there was no jacuzzi if you are looking for one. This property is totally green for girl guests. I had booked for two people. I had multiple girls visiting my room on same day and two guests visited together. I had a guest at 2 am also. No questions asked. Lift need access control but reception was kind enough to guide the guests after you call them and Inorm.
Generic Observations.
Most girls are muslims. Escorts so not wear hijab but you will see most wearing elsewhere. They seriously know how to carry it. Dressing sense is very good. They are quite liberal in thinking. I found many girls as single parents as they tend to get married at a very early age and get divorced equally soon. They are proud about being single and strong and do not feel bad or so.
Body Type. Fair Skin, gym toned bodies and most had great ass including 45 yrs old. You will find short and tall ones. Tits are brown or black. Pussies are brown to pink. Curvy is treated ugly and obese and skinny / slim as sexy. I was with a curvy girl and had many eyes on us.
Attitude. Very outgoing, friendly and GFE material. They do not steal or cheat but be cautious. No dramas.
Where to find Girls.
A) Spa & Massage.
There are massage parlours and Spas everywhere around. Do not hesitate to ask if sex is included. As mentioned by one senior earlier, Sugar Spa was walkable from my hotel. Walked down and was guided to first floor (they call it second floor so don't get confused). There was a seating area where you are showed pics on ipad. I asked to see the girls and they were lined up too. It was 675 k including massage and sex. Rooms are clean with queen bed. Quality of girls was great and the massage was also quite good. You can see the pics of available girls in their WA status.
B) Classic, Travel, Kings Cross etc.
Travel was 4 minutes from hotel and classic was 8 mins. I found that the variety was huge at both places. For classic, take left after you enter the main door to find escalator (not lift). Second floor is where the action is. Procedure is well documented so will not write much. Prices are 365 K for. One and 500 K for two incluses room. Tips can be 100 k but none demanded. I found room attendents at travel little pushy for tips. Heard from a friend that quality at Kings Cross was much better but was far off from my hotel. Let's wait to hear from him. You get a numbered band. Pay cash for girl and rest are billed to the number which you settle finally. At classic, billing is inside and it's at exit for travel. At both the places, I was not asked for any minimum spend. Pais for the girl and that's it.
C) Online.
Tinder does work but need lot of patience. I managed to hook up with four. Price quoted as from 700 K to 3 M depending on your bargaining skills. Most will accept for video call confirmation. If the girl moves to WhatsApp chat, it's likely that she would hookup.
Escort portals- Girls are registered as escorts in many portals. They ask $100-300 per hour. But 500 k-1 M seem ok for 3 hours. List of sites where the girl I met she was registered are devozki, loconto, escort Jakarta,cityoflove.com.
Friends Of Friends- Most girls will not mind to refer their friends if available. So, ask for it. You may end up threesome too. Girls at classic etc do share their numbers to meet outside to make more money. Heard from one girl that she get 150 k from the 365 charged. Few act as agents also.
Hotel on-call Massage. - tried my luck with pinch of hesitation but turned out to be genuine except that girl was not great and didn't match pic. Who cares at 300 k for a quick release though.
Others.
Look around for opportunities including hotel reception etc. If you are little flirty, chances are high. But why waste time when you are here for mongering.
All girls had good DFK skills and it's available by default. None refused DATY too. Girls at Classic etc pretend to be involved but it's more a script based and we cannot complain when they meet 6 a day.
Non Mongering Activities.
City tour.
Beach.
Bandung is a hill station and is 200 km from Jakarta. You can see valcono crater here.
Shopping at Malls.
Eating out.
I felt travelling alone even at late nights very safe. There was no hint of mugging or grab riders trying to take advantage.
Conclusion. I have only visited Thailand before. So cannot compare with others. I likd Jakarta than Thailand but is not as open as pattaya for sure. It's more hidden but available everywhere and you will not regret going here for mongering and good food. You will have great memories. Visit before it become another commercialised pattaya.
GentileBear
12-29-23, 22:07
The one to the right in green passes the Light Test. The light test is when you have your lady bend over, turn around so her ass faces you and you can see Light pass thru her ass. This is actually a Fat test. Since only thin or fitness chicks have this attribute. Here are 2 from Bandung. One I taped and one I would like too. Both are thin.
MarquisdeSade1
12-29-23, 23:45
"Hey, the Marquis is treating you with kid gloves. He's called me a full blown psychopath and thinks I'm trying to bring back slavery. For some reason he also seems to think I'm taking advantage of Asian slave labor and depriving Americans of jobs. That's all be. S. Of course. If anything I overpay Third World hookers.
Good report BTW, I enjoyed it. ".
So Ill try this.
Well here is a report on your favorite place.
https://www.state.gov/reports/2021-report-on-international-religious-freedom/china/xinjiang/
If you really want to realize your lifes DREAM of being a SLAVEMASTER you know where to go!!
But remember Karma is a beech.
Maybe there are secret hidden forums here where WE are being made fun of. Yes. The Grab FEEL option was hidden until OS lifted the curtain.
Recommended - but advance booking is required. Tips are optional.
~BKKguru
I've been reading several posts here that describe experiences very different than my own (and of several buddies who I met up with). I think it comes down to this. If you are American and want a Western mongering experience like the kind you get in Thailand or Philippines you will be disappointed. If you want a girl to play games with you, and flirt and pretend they like you while you buy overpriced drinks, then Jakarta is really not for you. I have lived in Asia long enough to appreciate the Asian style of mongering. The mamasans, the line ups, the fishbowls and green laser pointers are all fine by me and I personally find it fun to "shop" for girls that way. Most of my buddies were Asian American and also comfortable with this. So YMMV is real but it mostly depends on what you expect to find. Jakarta is not Bangkok or Pattaya. You could go to limited places like Malio and get the drinks and fuck experience but it will cost more. The local scene which is cheap and plentiful works in a different way and if that's not for you just go to Thailand. As always, YMMV.I do NOT like JK as a destination outside the food. Your analysis = 100/100.
I did have a great time at BATS. Classic, Malio and Sugar massage but the hassle for me of not being able to walk and having the Mamasan overload annoyances means I won't return.
I may go back to other parts of Indo just for the experience but the island of Java, meh.
IMHO.
MarquisdeSade1
12-30-23, 07:56
"I've been reading several posts here that describe experiences very different than my own (and of several buddies who I met up with). I think it comes down to this. If you are American and want a Western mongering experience like the kind you get in Thailand or Philippines you will be disappointed. If you want a girl to play games with you, and flirt and pretend they like you while you buy overpriced drinks, then Jakarta is really not for you. I have lived in Asia long enough to appreciate the Asian style of mongering. The mamasans, the line ups, the fishbowls and green laser pointers are all fine by me and I personally find it fun to "shop" for girls that way. Most of my buddies were Asian American and also comfortable with this. So YMMV is real but it mostly depends on what you expect to find. Jakarta is not Bangkok or Pattaya. You could go to limited places like Malio and get the drinks and fuck experience but it will cost more. The local scene which is cheap and plentiful works in a different way and if that's not for you just go to Thailand. As always, YMMV. ".
Don't let it happen again!!
Joe Brooklyn
12-30-23, 17:46
I do NOT like JK as a destination outside the food. Your analysis = 100/100.
I did have a great time at BATS. Classic, Malio and Sugar massage but the hassle for me of not being able to walk and having the Mamasan overload annoyances means I won't return.
I may go back to other parts of Indo just for the experience but the island of Java, meh.
IMHO.It's not about the city, it's about the girls. Chicks in JK are the hottest in SE Asia, imo.
Offshore Swell
12-31-23, 11:51
It's not about the city, it's about the girls. Chicks in JK are the hottest in SE Asia, imo.Have you ever been to Jakarta?
Expat American
12-31-23, 17:48
I do NOT like JK as a destination outside the food. Your analysis = 100/100.
I did have a great time at BATS. Classic, Malio and Sugar massage but the hassle for me of not being able to walk and having the Mamasan overload annoyances means I won't return.
I may go back to other parts of Indo just for the experience but the island of Java, meh.
IMHO.Yeah I hate it when mama sans offer me line ups of dozens of hot women so I can choose one or two to fuck for under 30 bucks. The horror of it all! Stay away!
Yeah I hate it when mama sans offer me line ups of dozens of hot women so I can choose one or two to fuck for under 30 bucks. The horror of it all! Stay away!I miss the fake tits and ladyboys in Bangkok. NOT!
TravelingMan3
01-01-24, 09:02
I live in Pattaya but I'll be out in Jakarta in February looking forward to it. Pattaya is cool but it's very commercial and while I think it still great it gets a lot of newbie mongers as dudes are all over the internet place like youtube telling dudes to go and how it's cheap and great not realizing that doing that is going to change that. Anyway from what you guys have shared I'm sure it going to be a good time I'll write a report.
Gents -.
I went to check the'Heaven based on positive feedbacks from this blog. Its not far from the SCBD and Senayan Ciy Mall. I took MRT there, so get off at Block A and walk 7 minutes. Its in a plaza with other sketchy mens spas like Delta. But this place doesn't feel too sketchy.
When you walk in the lobby, the front desk will gives locker key and brief explaination of price. I didn't fully understand. Something between 600-800 K based on room type and sex / no sex, VIP and no VIP room. Then they point you to elevator and go to 2nd floor. I suggest you take stairs because can take long time wait.
On 2nd floor there is another desk with 'mamasans' who will show you the photos of girls based on your preferences (sex, no sex, skinny, big boobies, good performance). They showed me a few photos. I was skeptical, so I elected for the one who looked most decent in photos. No sex. They wanted me to sit in waiting area, but I was impatience and asked to go quick to room.
Then I was taken to my room on 3rd floor. I picked Mila (or something like that). She was much more attractive than photos. Skinny, short and big saggy boobs. Had a great time with her. Decent massage for 20 minutes, and then another 20 minutes of ball rubbing and BJ and then hand climax. I elected no sex. And I can tell she was wearing a tampon, so that is probably why she was lower price and no sex.
Total I paid was 675 K. Nice thing is no one asked me for tips. I checked out the spa facilities, they were pretty average. Not as nice as what I see at Fortune at sudirman area. But quality of girls I think is much better and loww price. I wish I can see girls first and not ipad.
I will come back again. Can be nice after strees work meetings.
Joe Brooklyn
01-01-24, 15:07
I miss the fake tits and ladyboys in Bangkok. NOT!Yeah, and the tats too. There's nothing like setting sail on an eight-and-a-half-thousand-mile marathon, only to hook up with skanks that are facsimiles of the ones you left behind.
MarquisdeSade1
01-01-24, 15:24
"Yeah I hate it when mama sans offer me line ups of dozens of hot women so I can choose one or two to fuck for under 30 bucks. The horror of it all! Stay away!
You have a very negative credibility rating here so why do you keep posting??
Do you think you can just sweep that bullshit under the rug??
Wurldmonger
01-01-24, 18:25
I've done most of my mongering in Central and South America, and so my first intro to the SE Asia was in Jakarta. I have to say that I'm not absolutely into the bodies of Asian girls, but what they lack in that department, they make up for in enthusiasm. I'm probably wrong about this, but I didn't really find Jakarta that interesting as a city. The food became pretty repetitive, I guess Padang has just really taken over everything. After eating my fill of Bakso, or Bubur, or Nasi Goreng, I ended up looking for something else. Perhaps just me.
Anyway, the mongering was pretty straightforward as well. I want to thank the veterans who are on this forum in providing the basic stuff that any beginner needs to get their feet (wet in Indonesia. It seemed to me the easiest thing to do was the All-in-one hotel / spa / nightclub setup that pretty much dots the downtown area of Jakarta. The two I tried were Classic and Travel.
Unfortunately, I got to Hotel Travel a bit too early, but since I only had a short layover, I didn't have too many options. Pretty easy setup. The entrance to the nightclub is to the left of the hotel entrance. I believe they opened around 2 pm, but I got there at 1, and the hotel staff said I could go in anyway. So I go in there sit in the dark, and look at the lovely ladies sitting around in the spotlight. Mamasan asked me for what I wanted, and she asked for 360 k. I gave her 400 k and she said the 40 k was a tip to her. Whatever right? My first time. Up we went, do our thing. My girl and I didn't really click. Language was definitely a barrier. I learn some phrases prior to coming to Indonesia. The Pimsleur method I found was the best. Still, despite this, I could not get any emotion out of this girl, so this ended up being a subpar experience.
Well, after diving in Raja Ampat for a couple weeks, I came back to Jakarta for more fun. The touristy stuff was pretty terrible I thought, or maybe I just didn't do any research. I got pretty tired of malls and these Obelisks that the Indonesians seem to be obsessed with. This time, I booked a couple of days at Classic hotel. It is basically the same setup as hotel travel. If anything though, the hallways of the rooms are better lit. I checked into my internal hotel room (meaning the window view is the inside of the hotel), and proceeded to explore the entertainment options. I quickly booked a massage. There's a full on spa in the hotel, with Sauna and Jacuzzi and workout room. I was of course just interested in the massage. I pulled a indonesian girl who I ended up repeating several times. She was fantastic, full GFE. She essentially became the highlight of my whole trip. This also ended me exploring other options around town.
Well this report has gone on too long as it is. That's it for now.
I'm old time Blok M'er new to the and Jakarta scene. Thanks all for the advice on the Holiday Inn Gajah Mada, its perfect.
I grow old of the Classic / Travel cafeteria venues and prefer FLs in my hotel room. Any recommendations on a FL locality in the area?
Last night I was walking back from Travel and got approached on the street with an offer I couldn't refuse. Lucky draw I guess.
ThePrince1127
01-02-24, 16:49
I'm old time Blok M'er new to the and Jakarta scene. Thanks all for the advice on the Holiday Inn Gajah Mada, its perfect.
I grow old of the Classic / Travel cafeteria venues and prefer FLs in my hotel room. Any recommendations on a FL locality in the area?
Last night I was walking back from Travel and got approached on the street with an offer I couldn't refuse. Lucky draw I guess.Last time I visited was over 5 years ago and back then you could find FL's in side streets along Loksari plaza (location of infamous Today Country). There used to be a mamasan outside Mcdonalds, she hooked me up. If you have time check out Safari and 189 near Loksari plaza, when I was there they had FLs on site as well as contracted girls. Not sure if they have been closed down or operating under the radar. Failing that, you could try the dating apps but avoid any that ask for a down payment.
I'm old time Blok M'er new to the and Jakarta scene. Thanks all for the advice on the Holiday Inn Gajah Mada, its perfect.
I grow old of the Classic / Travel cafeteria venues and prefer FLs in my hotel room. Any recommendations on a FL locality in the area?
Last night I was walking back from Travel and got approached on the street with an offer I couldn't refuse. Lucky draw I guess.What is travel? I typed on Google map travel but could only see Travelodge and travel spa? Is it a spa thing? What's the price?
Other than that, you can find plenty of freelance on Michat. Just download the app search nearby and you will see.
Be careful most of them are scam. I tried 5 of them and got scammed almost each time. So be careful doing that. They also make ridiculous offer and you have to counter offer.
Banana Boi
01-02-24, 21:07
Other than that, you can find plenty of freelance on Michat. Just download the app search nearby and you will see.
Be careful most of them are scam. I tried 5 of them and got scammed almost each time. So be careful doing that. They also make ridiculous offer and you have to counter offer.You're a persistent guy to be scammed 5 times on MiChat. Curious what the initial offers were and how much you paid.
"Hotel Travel Jakarta".
You're a persistent guy to be scammed 5 times on MiChat. Curious what the initial offers were and how much you paid.
"Hotel Travel Jakarta".Ah great thanks. So they Will give a quote like 600-800 and I can counter any number even as low as 150 but usually around 300 and they will accept.
But then the service is super shit. Like they want to finish as soon as you start. They will say all service included but when you arrive she doesn't want to even remove her clothes no blowjob AND she's also bleeding on period.
I've got all sort of issues for each of them. I think I did pay full price once when the asking price was 400 but it was still a super shitty experience.
I kept trying because michat has really lots of girls. I was hoping I end up with exceptions and also hoping to find a gem. But really I only had issues.
Would be keen to hear your experience. Maybe if you pay the full asking price the service is better but I don't dare. Photos are bait and switches, agreed service even confirmed verbally AND written are not honoured. It makes me think everything is so much better when there's a pimp 🤣.
A bit like Uber VS the normal taxi driver charging a fortune. If they can scam they WILL scam you.
If you want them to come to your hotel they will ask you to send money to pay for the taxi. But I think you will have high probability the girl will just keep the money and try finding another dude to scam.
It's a logic that I really have trouble to understand because they could have so much more if they just try to build a bit of customer service. But all they can think of is a quick scam.
I suppose in these instance the saying 1 bird in your hand is better than 10 birds in the bushes rings much truer for these girls. Especially if they are independent.
Last time I visited was over 5 years ago and back then you could find FL's in side streets along Loksari plaza (location of infamous Today Country). There used to be a mamasan outside Mcdonalds, she hooked me up. If you have time check out Safari and 189 near Loksari plaza, when I was there they had FLs on site as well as contracted girls. Not sure if they have been closed down or operating under the radar. Failing that, you could try the dating apps but avoid any that ask for a down payment.I got approached by street freelance in Kemayoran area and I was interested. But the lady said she was with her mother and wanted both of them to come. I of course refused and said I can only accept 1 person and her mother has to wait outside.
For which they just ask me to give them money to eat because they are hungry and wanted like 50 rb or more.
I thought they looked fat enough to not need money to eat and one of them could benefit from a diet. But I did not dare say anything.
So just refused and took her WhatsApp.
Later I tried again to meet the girl one on one but she always refused then ask for money.
Never went further than that.
SteelBaton
01-02-24, 22:49
Hey SuperLove,
When are you going to pay it forward with a few detailed reports of your visit? You hit me up up for tons of PM advice, which I tried to help with. Give back to the forum. Especially how did the Grab Feel work out for you? .
This posts helps everyone, IMHO. I am in Jakarta soon. Thanks OS again. I had all these Q's and many more.
Hey SuperLove,
When are you going to pay it forward with a few detailed reports of your visit? You hit me up up for tons of PM advice, which I tried to help with. Give back to the forum. Especially how did the Grab Feel work out for you? .How to get Grab feel? I thought it was a joke? I never had the feel option on the grab app.
GentileBear
01-02-24, 23:07
How to get Grab feel? I never had the feel option on the grab app.It can be a challenge to get GFE in Jakarta. Grab Feel Express (GFE) requires a cash payment upfront to the Female driver. The larger the payment the more Touch and Feel you get. Good luck!
GentileBear
01-02-24, 23:29
For high-speed FL's maybe some will like what was in front of my hotel this past October. This is a pic of the general area. Just go to the McDonalds on the left of Ibis hotel. In the street around 3 AM you will see ladies smoking cloves and maybe even something stronger approach you. The guy escorting them will clap clap as if to signify "smash smash" with his hands. There were quite a few and while I did not partake. I can see how some guys would like this option. They were always hanging out late night early morning - as I would walk past them on the way to IndoMart. Noteworthy is that Malio club is just on the other side of the street to the left....
It can be a challenge to get GFE in Jakarta. Grab Feel Express (GFE) requires a cash payment upfront to the Female driver. The larger the payment the more Touch and Feel you get. Good luck!Ahhh I see. Tbh maybe 1 out of 10 driver are female. And when it's a female she's really not pretty or anything ahah. But thanks got it now.
For high-speed FL's maybe some will like what was in front of my hotel this past October. This is a pic of the general area. Just go to the McDonalds on the left of Ibis hotel. In the street around 3 AM you will see ladies smoking cloves and maybe even something stronger approach you. The guy escorting them will clap clap as if to signify "smash smash" with his hands. There were quite a few and while I did not partake. I can see how some guys would like this option. They were always hanging out late night early morning - as I would walk past them on the way to IndoMart. Noteworthy is that Malio club is just on the other side of the street to the left....Street name please?
They are 4 Ibis hotels on google maps and no one is in the expected area.
MarquisdeSade1
01-03-24, 02:27
"I'm old time Blok M'er new to the and Jakarta scene. Thanks all for the advice on the Holiday Inn Gajah Mada, its perfect.
I grow old of the Classic / Travel cafeteria venues and prefer FLs in my hotel room. Any recommendations on a FL locality in the area?
Last night I was walking back from Travel and got approached on the street with an offer I couldn't refuse. Lucky draw I guess. ".
I can tell you there is a st hotel called N1, if you are walking out the front door crack a right and walk 100 meters over the tiny bridge.
Then crack a sharp left down the road that shoots down hill, and stay to the left, I don't know what this area is called but it was the most bizarre area I've ever seen in Asia.
Kind like a movie set for a sequel for Damn of the dead, I saw some really weird shit, including a bunch of whoors and a few cute ones, but I didn't want to see what the rooms.
Were like so I skipped trying any, I walked around for an hour plus it was so "surreal" then it started pouring rain, I mean like a monsoon.
And I was trapped under a bridge, the zombies were everywhere and people were singing Karoke it was wild.
The street flooded with at least 2 feet of water, I couldn't get a grab to pick me up, I was stuck.
But feel free to check it out and report back LOL.
Here's another place called the Grand Tjokro.
I was walking out on a weeknight around 11 pm and there are 2 benches.
Outside the front door.
They had around 10 whoors sitting there.
All in like dresses that they would wear to a wedding or something.
And they asked me if I wanted to party so I chatted the best looking one.
And she kept begging to take her and her friend to my room to party.
I told her I couldn't,someone just took away all my bullets upstairs and I left.
They looked good, but I would say most were late 20's early 30's.
So I don't remember the prices they quoted, I wasnt going back to try them, so I just blew it off.
GentileBear
01-03-24, 03:56
Street name please?
They are 4 Ibis hotels on google maps and no one is in the expected area.14, Jl. Hayam Wuruk No. 35, RT. 14/ RW. 1, Kb. Klp. , Jakarta, Kota Jakarta Pusat, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta 10120, Indonesia.
Basically the Hayam Wuruk street. I also post this pic I took of the nearest Train stop - get off on this stop and look for the McDonalds next to the IBIS Hotel Harmoni and hang out at 3AM. Wild Chicks... again, I did not partake for a few reasons I won't get into - but there are walkers here!
I was referencing Hotel Travel in Glodok. 11, RT. 11/ RW. 1, Taman Sari, Kec. Taman Sari, Kota Jakarta Barat, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/zXEEqr6NZrQH3XC18
It has, what I call, a cafeteria venue.
What is travel? I typed on Google map travel but could only see Travelodge and travel spa? Is it a spa thing? What's the price?
Other than that, you can find plenty of freelance on Michat. Just download the app search nearby and you will see.
Be careful most of them are scam. I tried 5 of them and got scammed almost each time. So be careful doing that. They also make ridiculous offer and you have to counter offer.
Granite St8
01-03-24, 11:35
FR from a recent three night trip.
New Medika: Made an impromptu visit to this local spot. Has a cool neighborhood bar feel to it from back home, everyone having fun enjoying the music and sexy company. Small place with good vibe. Front room is the disco and backroom is bar and lounge area with girls on display seated on stools along four long high tables. About 40-50 girls, all young, packed in there like livestock so it's a bit hard to get a full look at what the bods look like. 400 k for one hour, clean and small room. Girl was reserved, admitted a bit uncomfortable with bules but I put her at ease and we had a great session. Like this place, would be fun to go with a group.
Sugar spa: Small spa with four different price / service categories in suite or VIP room. Choose off a phone and not many options as it was late. Went with Echa from reading previous post, 24 yo with two kids, 610 k. She was a bit fake with all the "oooh baby" talk. Package included BJ which I reminded her and lasted only 10 seconds. Will stick to a place like Dheaven for any future massage.
Travel: Went in the afternoon, was pretty quiet, maybe about 25 girls on showcase. Nothing to my liking so got taken to the back staff room area with another 25 girls or so eating, putting on makeup, etc. Was given a seat, enjoyed the behind the scenes for a minute and was brought over a lineup. Really wanted to sit there and get a good look at everyone but this was their staff area so went ahead and took a 19 yo big chest no baby for an ok session.
Classic: First time there and exceeded expectations. Smoke and mamasans not as bad as imagined. As is well documented here, 6-7 p is the best time to go for most choices. Seems the second shift workers start at 6 p. Wow, girls in all directions, maybe 100-150 total. Was like a kid in a candy store. Almost too many to choose from! Mamas are there to help you friends. Just walk around to different areas if she is a bother. Well put from a recent post, they just want to show you hot girls to fuck! Went twice, both times with cute spinners who were real fun. BB for extra tip and gave a great GFE. One of the girls I saw on my way out the first night. Had a beautiful smile with a unique face, looks a bit like Viet or Chinese and a girl next door style as the only girl with jean shorts. (Later found out mostly foreigners choose her as she doesn't have a look locals prefer) Said Hello, and hope to see her tomorrow. Luckily she was there the next day and had fun from get go as she is grinding up on me as we enjoy some dancing and a drink before we head down. Long live Classic. I love Jakarta.
Hello,
Thanks for the previous posts / replies.
So, how is Jakarta during Ramadan? Are p4 p places like Classic be open?
Thanks.
Hello,
Thanks for the previous posts / replies.
So, how is Jakarta during Ramadan? Are p4 p places like Classic be open?
Thanks.First couple days and last couple days curing Ramadan is not good for mongering unless you have contacts who can stop by.
Everything in between is normal at places like Classic.
NoGermaphobe
01-07-24, 00:32
Speaking of New Medika. There is also a club on the 2nd floor above the bar area that has a small selection of ladies. It is 50 K to enter and the dancers in there are in lingerie or see through tops ala Malio Club style. I believe it is 500 K to fuck the dancers on the 2nd floor, but not completely sure.
FR from a recent three night trip.
New Medika: Made an impromptu visit to this local spot. Has a cool neighborhood bar feel to it from back home, everyone having fun enjoying the music and sexy company. Small place with good vibe. Front room is the disco and backroom is bar and lounge area with girls on display seated on stools along four long high tables. About 40-50 girls, all young, packed in there like livestock so it's a bit hard to get a full look at what the bods look like. 400 k for one hour, clean and small room. Girl was reserved, admitted a bit uncomfortable with bules but I put her at ease and we had a great session. Like this place, would be fun to go with a group.
Sugar spa: Small spa with four different price / service categories in suite or VIP room. Choose off a phone and not many options as it was late. Went with Echa from reading previous post, 24 yo with two kids, 610 k. She was a bit fake with all the "oooh baby" talk. Package included BJ which I reminded her and lasted only 10 seconds. Will stick to a place like Dheaven for any future massage.
Travel: Went in the afternoon, was pretty quiet, maybe about 25 girls on showcase. Nothing to my liking so got taken to the back staff room area with another 25 girls or so eating, putting on makeup, etc. Was given a seat, enjoyed the behind the scenes for a minute and was brought over a lineup. Really wanted to sit there and get a good look at everyone but this was their staff area so went ahead and took a 19 yo big chest no baby for an ok session.
Classic: First time there and exceeded expectations. Smoke and mamasans not as bad as imagined. As is well documented here, 6-7 p is the best time to go for most choices. Seems the second shift workers start at 6 p. Wow, girls in all directions, maybe 100-150 total. Was like a kid in a candy store. Almost too many to choose from! Mamas are there to help you friends. Just walk around to different areas if she is a bother. Well put from a recent post, they just want to show you hot girls to fuck! Went twice, both times with cute spinners who were real fun. BB for extra tip and gave a great GFE. One of the girls I saw on my way out the first night. Had a beautiful smile with a unique face, looks a bit like Viet or Chinese and a girl next door style as the only girl with jean shorts. (Later found out mostly foreigners choose her as she doesn't have a look locals prefer) Said Hello, and hope to see her tomorrow. Luckily she was there the next day and had fun from get go as she is grinding up on me as we enjoy some dancing and a drink before we head down. Long live Classic. I love Jakarta.
Banana Boi
01-07-24, 07:57
Speaking of New Medika. There is also a club on the 2nd floor above the bar area that has a small selection of ladies. It is 50 K to enter and the dancers in there are in lingerie or see through tops ala Malio Club style. I believe it is 500 K to fuck the dancers on the 2nd floor, but not completely sure.I didn't even know this. Where is the staircase to the 2nd floor club? Can you buy them drinks and get DFK and lap dances like Malio?
NoGermaphobe
01-07-24, 08:56
The stairs are in the back area where the regular ladies are located. There is a bar in front and on the right as you enter from the main area. Behind the bar or to the left of the bar is the cashier. And behind the cashier or to the left of the cashier are the stairs up. 2nd floor is the club. 3rd floor are the fuck rooms. I also heard New Medika had been remodeled recently, but I am not sure when. It basically looks like a standard KI bar where the regular ladies are located and even how they are seated. There are also stairs in the front area when you first enter New Medika, but I was prevented from going up those stairs.
On the second floor from the back area, there is a desk with 2-3 guys outside and a red door. Inside the red door is the club. The guys outside by the desk will take your 50 K, give you a drink ticket and let you in.
The definitely have the trays of drinks for the dancers like Malio. No idea how much the drinks were. I didn't buy them and didn't ask. But I am sure you could possibly suck some face or at least cop a feel for a certain amount of drinks. But I didn't try or attempt this myself.
I didn't even know this. Where is the staircase to the 2nd floor club? Can you buy them drinks and get DFK and lap dances like Malio?
So I just got done with my first mongering trip to Jakarta. And all I can say is. WOW. I I hooked up with a few other board members who were amazing and showed me the ropes. Thanks guys, the trip wouldn't have been as great without your help.
Flight: Air Asia from Singapore 1 HR 45 min everything on time. Jakarta airport surprisingly efficient, no lines anywhere at all. VOA, Immigration and Customs all done in less than 20 min. Changed 100 USD just to get going, stepped outside and hopped into a Bluebird. Meter rate to Holiday Inn about 130 K.
Hotel: Holiday Inn Gajah Meda. I can't say enough good things about this hotel. 5 star luxury at 3 star price. $45/ night including a nice breakfast. Large, clean quiet rooms, great service. Perfect location 10 min from Classic / Travel / Kota Indah. About 25 K for a grab car to any of those hot spots.
The Venues: Classic and Travel have similar set ups, large bars, live band, hundreds of girls. The quality of the girls blew me away. Better than Thailand for me because no plastic and very few tats. All natural look. And I don't believe there was a single girl over 25 in any of the bars we went to. Hardly any foreigners, mostly local crowd. Downsides were very loud music and lots of smoke. Girls are sitting on couches in groups each managed by a mamasan. You can get the mamasan to have them all line up for inspection. Its okay to say no to all of them and move to another mamasan. You are the boss here. Price 375 for one, 500 for two. Unbeatable deal. Clean rooms. Kota Indah is even more local and very crowded late at night. Had more of a happening party vibe with thumping DJ music. But slightly lower girl quality however with the sheer number of girls you can always find a few to your satisfaction. Same set up with mamasans and rooms. One thing I didn't learn the first day is you can select a girl and sit and have a drink and chat and you are still free to reject her if you don't vibe. I did that in KI and Classic and was met with a polite thank you and they even kissed my hand as they left. Also checked out Malio club which is more an American style strip club. Lots of high mileage for a $4 lady drink. Girl quality higher than Classic / Travel but 3 X -10 X more expensive to fuck depending on girl category.
The Girls: I found all the girls except one to be amazing in service. And even the one was not bad by objective standards. I had 2 threesomes, several one on ones. I must have fucked 8 girls all bareback. Juicy details below.
Day 1: Arrived hotel around 2 pm. Sugar spa was across the street and recommended by ISG bro. You select girl from Ipad, I asked for a slim girl with natural tits and mamasan recommended Echa. Cute girl in person. Go to room, she showers and bathes me thoroughly, does some massage, teasing, body to body and moves on to sex. I ask for bareback, she agrees, off to the races. Decent service but nothing compared to what was coming later. 650 K plus 100 K tip and she was happy. I broke my Jakarta Cherry. Later around 6 pm met up with the guys at Classic. Thats a good time to go, most of the girls are there but few customers. Went around the sofas and one mama san said "new girls" so I said OK, show me. She pulls up one girl there on her first day (yeah right I'm thinking but turns out she was actually telling the truth). Mama offers 2 for 500 and I'm like WTF, how bad can it be for 30 bucks? So I chose another skinny girl and take them to the room. Here they both say they are new and have never done a threesome. I'm like cool, I will show you how (evil grin). I tell them no condoms and offer an undefined tip. They quickly agree. That was my first amazing session. The brand new girl was 22 and the other was 19 and had been there a week. They were full on GFE, DFK, alternatively fucking one pussy and another pussy to a mouth and back and forth. This went on for a good 40 min before I finally unloaded in the skinny one. The new one looked down at her pussy and there was some blood (not period) so I think she was really not used to it. But she didn't complain a word. I tipped them each a generous 200 K and they were thrilled. Total cost 900 K (60 USD). Wow. I thought it couldn't get better but I was wrong. Wait until day 3! But wait, Day 1 is not over. All the boys then decide to move to Travel. A lot more girls, more party atmosphere. Spent most of the evening hanging with the guys but took one slim cutie who turned out to be the worst lay of the trip. She asked for tip right away in advance. I told her I will tip her after and expect BBFS. She agrees but tries to rush. I stop her and tell her that's not how it works got her to come around to doing it right. So in the end she delivered an acceptable session, I unload inside her and give her the promised 200 k (even though she maybe didn't quite deserve it). 3 pops is a good day for me at my age and I call it a night.
Day 2: After a nice sushi lunch with the gang, one of the guys and I decide to go to Classic Spa. This is in the basement of Classic Hotel. Typical spa set up like in Macau or Shanghai. Lockers, Jacuzzi, Sauna etc for the 120000 entrance fee. Theres a lounge with fishbowl of girls. Not the best selection at 3 pm (early) but I did see one beauty who turned out to be the highlight of the trip Took her back and she exemplified true GFE. Passionate kissing, long deep BBBJ, deep fingering that made her almost squirt. After some Satay at the lounge, went up the bar area again but couldn't get myself energized for another so went back to the room for a break. Later the guys all wanted to go to Kota Indah so we ended up there. Popped into a few bars, crazy scene. Loud, dark and crowded. Tons of girls and also tons of guys (all locals). Quality not quite as good as Classic but still not bad. The environment was too hectic for me to choose. I did buy a drink with one girl but close up she had tats which I didn't want. I politely told her no thanks and she took it sweetly and kissed my hand and left. Felt bad cause she was a nice girl but I was saving my precious fluid for a stunner. Which I found in the fishbowl at Starmoon. A gorgeous 19 yo, slim but with natural large tits. Unbelievable body and face. Had a drink with her and took her upstairs. A bit disappointed as she was not too enthusiastic but BBFSCIP with a hot 19 yo for 25 bucks is never a bad thing. Two shots on the second day and I'm done. I wish I could do 6 shots in 24 hours like I used to 20 years ago in Angeles, but alas, those days are gone.
Day 3: Decided to go back to Classic Spa to possibly repeat with the same girl. She was there as was another tight spinner I had my eye on. So took both of them for what turned out to be by far one of the best sexual experiences of my life. Paid a small 50 K upgrade to a VIP room which had a large round bed and a jacuzzi tub as well. Since the first girl already knew me and was happy to see me again and she spoke English, it worked like charm. She instructed the other girl in what I liked (no condom etc) and both were happy and giggling in the room, overall a very positive vibe. The sex as off the charts. Better than my first 3 some and with way hotter girls. The first threesome girls were like 7 while these were solid 9 in my book. And both were full on with passionate kissing, fingering them to orgasm, long deep BBBJ, alternate pussy fucking. Like a dream, two 20 year old hot girls doing whatever I wanted. First shot unloaded in the skinny one. Second in the other one. Total cost for 90 min 600 k each for the girl plus 200 k each tip. So about USD 100 all in. This ranks as one of my best experiences in over 20 years of mongering. Back in the day I used to get stuff like this all the time in Angeles but not with girls this hot.
Came out of the session and went in for a regular massage (also onsite) which felt great and then back to the jacuzzi for a dip before leaving. We spent probably 6 hours onsite and total bill was about $150 all inclusive. My favorite place of the trip.
Last thing left to check out was Malioboro so a few of us went there after 10 pm. I know the place gets bad press but I actually had fun. Lots of hot girls in transparent fishnet clothing. I bought one some $4 drinks and she was on my lap, French kissing me, fondling her boobs while she rubbed my dick, and I even stuck my finger in her pussy. Lap dance ++ experience was a lot of fun. You can fuck the dancers for 3. 8 M (over $200) so not worth it but for watching hot girls and playing with a few for drinks its great value. My total bill was 800 K (50 USD) for lap dances and a round of beers for the gang.
Final Comments: Why on earth did I not bother to go to Jakarta earlier? I've lived in Asia since 2017 and visited Thailand and Phils dozens of times. Jakarta is like Bangkok 20 years ago. Unjaded girls, no English, few foreigners and tourists so prices in line with local market. No fake boobs, few tattoos. I also chatted with a bunch of Tinder girls but since I was there for only 3 days didn't really get time to meet them. But that option also exists.
I think AC is now off my destination list forever, replaced by Jakarta. The only saving grace of AC was BBFS but I had 100% success rate with that in Jakarta. Just one girl refused in the bar and I sent her away. Every other girl quickly agreed with the promise of a small tip. Even in threesomes where they often won't do that in front of their coworkers, I didn't get any resistance. I know other posters have had different experiences and I don't know why but this was my experience. As Arnold said so eloquently " I will be baack".Still remember the name of the girl in classic spa?
How to get Grab feel? I thought it was a joke? I never had the feel option on the grab app.You have to select the menu within the Grab Bike option- make sure you have downloaded the latest version of the app- and choose Grab Feel. Please make sure you tip the girl appropriately when you complete your journey, based on how many feels you have had.
Offshore Swell
01-10-24, 00:23
You have to select the menu within the Grab Bike option- make sure you have downloaded the latest version of the app- and choose Grab Feel. Please make sure you tip the girl appropriately when you complete your journey, based on how many feels you have had.OS is a big fan of the Grab Feel service, so much so that it was beginning to attract the suspicions of lady OS who was wondering why he was taking an ojek all the time instead of riding his own motorcycle.
So OS arranged for some punks to steal the bike and burn it and now he wakes every morning with a flourish, ready to go to work with Grab Feel, his hands can barely hold his morning cornflakes in their spoon, they are so excited to be soon to start the day.
One word of advice is to try to choose a rider with a higher powered motorcycle. Waiting at the traffic lights with your riders chest jiggling up and down can attract the suspicions of the Sharia police and you can find yourself suddenly in the middle of a Hollywood style police chase through the streets of Jakarta. Fortunately most Sharia police only have crappy old secondhand bikes of low power (A result of the Sharia commander skimming the budget to fund his karaoke habit). And your driver can blow them off.
Nuttin Serious
01-10-24, 08:16
OS is a big fan of the Grab Feel service, so much so that it was beginning to attract the suspicions of lady OS who was wondering why he was taking an ojek all the time instead of riding his own motorcycle.
So OS arranged for some punks to steal the bike and burn it and now he wakes every morning with a flourish, ready to go to work with Grab Feel, his hands can barely hold his morning cornflakes in their spoon, they are so excited to be soon to start the day.
One word of advice is to try to choose a rider with a higher powered motorcycle. Waiting at the traffic lights with your riders chest jiggling up and down can attract the suspicions of the Sharia police and you can find yourself suddenly in the middle of a Hollywood style police chase through the streets of Jakarta. Fortunately most Sharia police only have crappy old secondhand bikes of low power (A result of the Sharia commander skimming the budget to fund his karaoke habit). And your driver can blow them off.As always, invaluable insight from OS into the important details. Any newcomers to Jakarta would be wise to take note.
Happy Player
01-11-24, 16:50
Been here in Jakarta for past few days. I read everyone's info going back a couple of years and thanks for everyone's tips.
Staying at HI Gajah Mada as I got an awesome deal for $30 a night.
Mistake on first day, note to self never venture when tired, after flying over 320+ hours with 5+ hours layover and landed in a downpour was looking forward to get a release. So took once checked in hail a grab to Classic but allowed mama son took over, bad mistake, and got push for 2 young girls, 19 and 20 year old, for 500,000. Well, the experience was not very good but did get the job done. Will try again in a few days.
When to BATs and was great took 29 years old for 2,000,000 for the night. Brought a bottle and they will allow you to keep there for 2 weeks. I think this is the best way to drink as the ladies will eye your bottle try to make conversation. Will go back to finish my bottle and see if I can find younger but am OK with MILF as are better for sex.
Past few days I run into hotel massage ladies, all older, and they will all offer 3 M for FS (with one have not problem BBBJ and BBFS) this also included an hour massage. For me this is a better option than going to Classic as I don't have to leave the comfort of my hotel but the down side is the ladies are older.
I am doing the bar scene this weekend and see what's it's like.
There are lot of options here but I find it a bit more the Thailand and Vietnam, not current, rather a year ago.
Again thanks everyone's info, as without it will be impossilbe to know where to look.
Been here in Jakarta for past few days. I read everyone's info going back a couple of years and thanks for everyone's tips.
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Past few days I run into hotel massage ladies, all older, and they will all offer 3 M for FS (with one have not problem BBBJ and BBFS) this also included an hour massage. For me this is a better option than going to Classic as I don't have to leave the comfort of my hotel but the down side is the ladies are older. <snip>
Hi, Thanks for sharing your experience.
3 Million Rupiah for Massage + FS from a MILF is too high. I suggest you offer 1.2 or 1.5 Million max. And make it sound like it is the FINAL offer.
I know a 40 year old MILF who will give you a 35 minute oil massage in your Room + FS.
I pay her 900,000 Rupiah Total and she is happy.
It is your money and you can pay whatever you want.
However, just want to alert you MILFs are highly negotiable. Make a counter-offer!!
~BKKguru
GentileBear
01-12-24, 05:08
Hey Happy Player. Why did Classic not make you Happy? Being rushed? You prefer a more refined and high society lady who respects bottle service? Just curious. It is good to have your prospective since some have claimed Classic has too many Fan-boys. And thanks for your report!
Expat American
01-12-24, 05:57
Hey Happy Player. Why did Classic not make you Happy? Being rushed? You prefer a more refined and high society lady who respects bottle service? Just curious. It is good to have your prospective since some have claimed Classic has too many Fan-boys. And thanks for your report!Most westerners don't know how to utilize places like Classic. They are set up in a different way than bars in Thailand or Philippines. If you know how to play the game you can get amazing experiences with young (18-23) year old girls for less than $30. But you need to get out of the idea that Jakarta is same as Bangkok or Manila and that the P4 P scene exists primarily for old white men. It doesn't. Thats why they are disappointed and go on to pay 3 M for way over the hill hookers.
SeaTraveler
01-12-24, 08:02
Visited July 20 to August 14,2023.
Married a wonderful Indonesian school teacher on August 8, 2023 in Bekasi.
Returned to live here for 3 months from Dec 7 until March 5.
Took 1 month to get a computer setup and working VPN to access this site.
My wife is fine with me having an occasional fuck session as long as I let her know in advance.
Mid-December I stopped into Malio Hotel to visit Malioboro at 1:30 am. Malioboro closed, so I venture into Malio bar for a drink and look see.
OMG. I sat down and was swarmed by at least 15 girls around my table all clamoring for drinks. I'm not a rookie, but this was too much. Finally settled on 1 girl and sent the others away. Mamasan convinced me to by 5 drinks at 66 k each (330,000). I was rushed to have her finish her 5 drinks and my beer and ushered to private room. All of this felt off to me.
It was not really a private room, more like a big room with sofas on the wall.
In the room with me was the girl, mamasan & some guy.
Here they quote me 1. 9 juta for a BJ. More for sex.
I'm thinking 1. 9 juta. Fuck that. I'd rather have a freelancer for 1. 5 juta. I had a few dalliances in December after this incident.
So, I stand up and leave. Pretty pissed off at what seemed like deception and super high pressure (at least for me).
My bill at exit was 554,000 rupiah.
I will never go back there again.
CANNOT RECOMMEND!
SEA Traveler.
Just got access to the site again, had problems logging in earlier. I have been in Jakarta for over a week now and like it so much so extended my trip by another 5 days. This place just keeps giving more and is a true mongering heaven. I am staying at Grand Hyatt, got a great price and I guess all the staff know me very well by now. Hotel is very well located next to the mall and all good places are nearby. Its central location allows me to be anywhere within 15-20 minutes. Jakarta traffic is not as bad as it was made out to be. I would like to thank all the mongers here on the forum who have helped me on PM, I sent numerous messages and they were very helpful and courteous in their reply. I hope this report helps everyone especially the newbies.
Classic:
This place is superb, there are 3 places to visit. Basement classic spa. Lobby level floor is the bar / nightclub / lounge and finally 2 levels up the main classic terminal.
Spa: entry is 120 k and you get to change and are given a gown & towel. The place is very relaxing, the lady mamasans are very hot, young and beautiful. Sadly none are available. Girls usually sit in a fish bowl structure and price is a little bit more than usual about 600 k or so. About 40-50 girls but some of them are really hot. I have been here several times now and one can easily spend 4-5 hours relaxing. I have banged fresco (tattoo on both the elbows) 2 times now, she is beautiful. Beautiful, big ass, big natural boobs and service is pure bliss. Not a time watcher. Does DFK like a pro and allows CIM. Massage service here is also pretty good, given by a hot petite young girl, weighs about 43-45 kilos. Session is for 90 minutes and can be extended by another 30 minutes. She will make you go for a HJ at the end, I have never allowed her as I have so many options for BBBJ and fucking, don't want my fluid to get wasted. You can watch a movie on the big screen and enjoy other services like plunge pool, steam and sauna. The place shuts by 9 pm or so and all girls are moved to lobby level bar. I strongly advise mongers to take girls and opt for a big / better room, the bed is round and nice, they have a sauna inside with a Jacuzzi / tub. Enjoy the facilities, just a little bit more money.
Classic lobby level bar:
Enter 9. 30 pm or thereafter only. Most girls are the classic spa girls in different sexy outfits, some of them in see through fish nets. The atmosphere is sexy and everyone's drinking and smoking in the presence of a live band and singer. You can pick a lady buy her drinks and move to the rooms in the basement. Payment to mamasan upfront.
Classic terminal 2 levels up the lobby.
Take the escalators on the left of the entrance. Get a numbered band and step inside. For a first time visitor this place can be pretty overwhelming. As soon as you step in one mamasan will grab you and show her line up. There are about 10-12 lady mamasans and each has more than 15 girls seated on a sofa. No 2 mamasans will ever approach you first time, I must warn all first timers do not fall for them and lure you away, politely decline them saying either you don't like the girl or need 15 minutes to take a look around. They are very pushy, once you say No to original mamsan other mamasans will push you to see theirs. Again politely decline each one of them. Take a deep breath and soak in the atmosphere. As I said this place is very overwhelming and first timers will be shocked / surprised with over 250 girls on display. Most girls are in 7 range, very few in 5-6 range and many of them are in 8 range, some of the girls are shockingly beautiful young and with great bodies, each line up may have atleast 1 gem so be patient. Grab a drink and look at the quality on display, if you like a girl ask mamasan for her, sit with her and take her to room. Make sure you discuss services offered first with mamasan to avoid any unpleasant atmosphere in the room. I am a fan of DFK / BBBJ and service with a smile. Also make sure girl has enough protection at her disposal. Just in case you want to bang her again after a brief rest. I had some awesome girls here and I promised them good tip before we started, got true GFE paid 100 k-200 k. Sometimes I went with 2 girls, it was a To Do thing for me and I wanted to get it out of my system. This can be hit or a miss as many have already explained on the forum before. 1 girl costs 365 k and 2 together 500 k, ridiculous low pricing it seems. Yesterday, I had 5 girls in 4 sessions as I wanted to try out as many girls as possible. Finished in only 2 sessions. Good time to hit this place is 5 pm or so.
Loved the way mamasan would point laser at girls from a distance and they would line up within seconds. New thing for me, I was shocked initially but one gets used to this kind of a set up. Girls do not feel uncomfortable when mongers stand in front of them and stare at them with carnal pov. Some of them would just giggle away or take a short nap so its ok.
I would rate this place A and urge all mongers to make a visit to classic, its a Must.
Some of my observations about Jakarta:
1. Its a fantastic city for mongering. Beautiful girls, smoking hot bodies and open minded attitude will help you have memorable experiences.
2. Get yourself Grab taxi, its easy and comfortable better than Silverbird / Bluebird taxis. You know the prices before hand. Get grab bike to cut city traffic and prices.
3. I feel traffic in Jakarta is normal or not as bad as it was made out to be. Or probably I was lucky. Travelling distance to anywhere is in the region of 20 minutes but if your focus is only mongering then one should stay in North. It helps.
4. $100 bills get you better change rate as compared to 10's 20' 50's. $10 gets you about 150 k.
5. Came out of the airport like a breeze. No queue for immigration luggage was quick & one needs to upload customs declaration on the QR scanner, max 20 minutes for all.
6. Grab charges from airport about 180 k-220 k for south and 160-180 k for north.
7. Indonesian girls are very open minded and smiling in nature. Talk to them and open a conversation, they are happy to share their contact. You never know but one can land a civvie, its not difficult.
8. Pavements are not exactly walking friendly and aggressive hawking on the streets makes it more difficult.
9. No or hardly any LBs in the city, major sigh of relief. As compared to other cities scams are less but still better if you are careful. Very few will have plastic bodies & most girls are service oriented and not greedy as other countries. Try to build contacts and use them for dating.
10. Food is crazy good, lots of good sea food options you'll be spoilt. Food is cheap & alcohol is expensive.
11. Almost all bars and clubs have FL / WG / semi indies. Starting point they ask for 2. 5-3 mn, counter with a 800 k-1 mn offer and settle as per your convenience.
12. Online scene looks promising and girls tend to lie less as compared to other countries, asking price is 1-1. 2 mn short and 2-2. 5 mn long.
13. Travel, classic, kota indah, emporium, colosseum 1001 are all in North and nearby. Max driving distance 15-20 minutes. Grab taxi 30 k, king cross a little further away. Add another 10-15 minutes.
14. Always confirm with mamasan first wherever you are: not all girls will offer all services. Tell the girl beforehand you will tip her at the end: trust me 100 k-200 k goes a long way.
15. Almost all places will allow you to spend some time with the girl, talk to her first and feel her before you hit the room.
I had a trip planned to the PH for a while and happened to check out this forum a few days ago, after reading a few posts I had to change up my flights. I still get to hit up PH after and luckily was able to do so at not to much expense. Its actually nice for a change the Jakarta forum seems like a relatively positive place compared to all the other toxic forums I have navigated.
1) Anyone in town over those days, would be happy to buy a round or two, always more fun with a wingman (s).
2) I like to plan my vacations with a mix of perverted fun and adventure travel. So far it seems like there is not too much to do. I understand there might be some ok scuba diving that I can access from Jakarta. Is it worthwhile to do any daytrips see the country side? Any Recommendations?
3) Excited about the food, any markets or hawker centres that I must check out?
4) While places like Classics is definitely on my list to try out I prefer action on my own hotel. Of course I will try exploring getting good performers from Classics back to my room on days off or whatever, but are there any other avenues to explore to find this action. CJ's seems like it might be worthwile to check out, I don't mind the 30 yo's as I found that its the perfect balance of maturity, looks and sexuality.
Thats it for now, hit me up with any recommendations or if you will be in town during my dates, you can tell from my history I always give back to the community.
Cheers YM.
So I just got done with my first mongering trip to Jakarta. And all I can say is. WOW. I I hooked up with a few other board members who were amazing and showed me the ropes. Thanks guys, the trip wouldn't have been as great without your help.
Flight: Air Asia from Singapore 1 HR 45 min everything on time. Jakarta airport surprisingly efficient, no lines anywhere at all. VOA, Immigration and Customs all done in less than 20 min. Changed 100 USD just to get going, stepped outside and hopped into a Bluebird. Meter rate to Holiday Inn about 130 K.
Hotel: Holiday Inn Gajah Meda. I can't say enough good things about this hotel. 5 star luxury at 3 star price. $45/ night including a nice breakfast. Large, clean quiet rooms, great service. Perfect location 10 min from Classic / Travel / Kota Indah. About 25 K for a grab car to any of those hot spots.
The Venues: Classic and Travel have similar set ups, large bars, live band, hundreds of girls. The quality of the girls blew me away. Better than Thailand for me because no plastic and very few tats. All natural look. And I don't believe there was a single girl over 25 in any of the bars we went to. Hardly any foreigners, mostly local crowd. Downsides were very loud music and lots of smoke. Girls are sitting on couches in groups each managed by a mamasan. You can get the mamasan to have them all line up for inspection. Its okay to say no to all of them and move to another mamasan. You are the boss here. Price 375 for one, 500 for two. Unbeatable deal. Clean rooms. Kota Indah is even more local and very crowded late at night. Had more of a happening party vibe with thumping DJ music. But slightly lower girl quality however with the sheer number of girls you can always find a few to your satisfaction. Same set up with mamasans and rooms. One thing I didn't learn the first day is you can select a girl and sit and have a drink and chat and you are still free to reject her if you don't vibe. I did that in KI and Classic and was met with a polite thank you and they even kissed my hand as they left. Also checked out Malio club which is more an American style strip club. Lots of high mileage for a $4 lady drink. Girl quality higher than Classic / Travel but 3 X -10 X more expensive to fuck depending on girl category.
Excellent report. I'm going there shortly and switched my hotel to Holiday Inn based on your review.
GentileBear
01-12-24, 23:18
YngMong,
Since you asked. I highly highly recommend Remboelan Indonesian Soul Food restaurant. It is a chain with many locations in malls. Absolutely fantastic! Basil Fried Rice. Flavorful food. Never had a bad meal here.
For Mongering. I admit I am a Classic Terminal FanBoy.
I paid a visit to the gang near the corner of Mangga Besar and Hayam Wuruk. Before the pandemic, there were three knocking shops here. Now there's one, Royal Mas by Kartika. I'm not such a great fan of Hotel Travel, I like the vibe here better. Not all the girls are as young as Travel, probably range from 20-35. Prices around the same, 400 k for the room, plus an optional tip to the girl. I usually tip 100 k, unless the service is seriously sub-standard, a bit more if it's exceptional, 200 k if they do anal (I haven't found one there up for that yet). First time I visited, one of the girls caught my eye from her sofa, smiled, looked friendly. Always a good sign, so I took her to a room. Amelia, Sundanese. Pretty good, not exceptional, but a nice girl. She didn't seem to want to bother with a condom, which is a bit unusual these days. I was the one who insisted. Next time I visited, the manager greeted me as though I was an old friend and a valued regular. I asked him for a recommendation, body type not that important, but good service. He recommended Leticia. Yeah, pretty good. She stands out in my memory for her incredibly strong pelvic muscles. When I stuck a finger into her, she almost snapped it off. I complimented her on it, she accepted it graciously and with some pride, she said she did kegel work outs. I'd be happy enough to repeat with either of those two, but I'll probably continue with an exploratory survey of some of the others before I settle on any regulars.
Irish Mongrel
01-13-24, 06:01
2) I like to plan my vacations with a mix of perverted fun and adventure travel. So far it seems like there is not too much to do. I understand there might be some ok scuba diving that I can access from Jakarta. Is it worthwhile to do any daytrips see the country side? Any Recommendations?
4) While places like Classics is definitely on my list to try out I prefer action on my own hotel. Of course I will try exploring getting good performers from Classics back to my room on days off or whatever, but are there any other avenues to explore to find this action. CJ's seems like it might be worthwhile to check out, I don't mind the 30 yo's as I found that its the perfect balance of maturity, looks and sexuality.
The reason that Jakarta stays so good is probably the fact that it probably doesn't get a lot of vacationing tourists. Yep, lots of business people like myself hit the town, but I can't really think of anything exciting to do past a walk around the old town. You do have a theme park, and then there are trips out to the small offshore islands. Looked at doing that a while ago and passed on that idea. To me, Jakarta is a place to do business and have fun with some of the best looking girls in Asia, nothing else. A little bit longer and you could have charged down to Yogjakarta or Bali which are big tourist centres.
As far as hotels, two main bars / nightclubs. CJ's in the Mulia and BATS in Shangri-La. I preferred BATS when I was a regular visitor. Have been there twice post-COVID and thought it had lost a lot of it's buzz, certainly during the week. EP (Eastern Promise) out in Kemang is supposedly the place to go at the weekend, but can; t confirm that. Will take a local to say ye or no.
Travel.
I went there on one of the days in the afternoon around 5 pm I guess, lots of girls again just like classic. I say about 100 in the main hall followed by another 80-100 in the backside behind the bar. They are drinking, eating, resting & getting ready putting on their make up for the main show. Not too many lookers, on average girls are 6 and very few in 7 and hardly in the 8 slot. Picked one and asked her for DFK / BBBJ through a translator. Surprisingly she said No, called her mamasan and asked if she will convince her. Mamasan said its not allowed she won't do and its not possible. That very moment dropped her and left, never returned. I don't know if I was unlucky, what do other punters think about the place and their experience. Please share. My rating POOR.
Kota Indah complex.
I was warned about this place by several mongers, but a couple insisted I should not only visit but also try one of the girls in Starmoon. Sadly I did go and did not find any good looking girls. This complex is sleazy and dirty, classic has better hygiene and of course better talent. Walked around the complex M star, saryu aryu and it was the same story. Left and never returned. My rating POOR.
King Cross, Kelpa Gading.
Long drive, went there around 4. 30-5 pm. Not much of a line up 15-20 girls only. Some average and 1-2 decent. Set up looked good with a stage and big screen, I guess place gets busy late evenings, sadly I was too early for this place and advise others to come late by 8 or 9 pm. Waited some time to see if line up improves. Sadly, no. Left and never returned. My rating AVERAGE.
1001 colosseum.
I was excited about this place another punter also recommended, high end with entry charge of 200 k with a drink. Saw about 60-70 girls sitting at a distance. Very beautiful with many stunners. Lady mamasan was pretty and helpful, spoke clean english and has always helped me in my selection. Price here is around 1. 4 mn, but before that saw the international selection. They are seated in a private area and are called downstairs. I was blown away by the quality. Drop dead gorgeous. About 15-17 of them each better than the other. Only 10's. Viet thai russian kazak, great bodies sharp features and stunning face. Price 3. 3 mn. Nice rooms, luxurious and one could spend the night over. I've had 3 locals and 1 international by now. Very happy and satisfying. Enjoy 30 minutes in the cabana next to the pool followed by 60 in the room. Sadly you can't take them to the pool, its only for punters. My rating A+.
Emporium.
Same setup as 1001 but on a smaller scale, entry 200 k. Choices are less but still very good. Took a beauty and went to spa with her. I took steam and sauna while she changed, when I came out she was in her robe. Took it off and she's in her bikini, oh my god. Great shape great contours, we step inside the pool. It was heavenly, just magical, 30 minutes passed by like a breeze off to the room for 60 minutes. Great service. I've done 3 girls by now, rooms are very nice try to take the suite. Excellent setup. My rating A+.
Hung Man 1808
01-13-24, 07:00
EP (Eastern Promise) out in Kemang is supposedly the place to go at the weekend, but can; t confirm that. Will take a local to say ye or no.If you want to reminisce with the girls who hung out in CJs BATS Red Square and Blok M in the heydays 10+ years ago, head to EP. They're just about all there.
Giovanni Volo
01-13-24, 22:30
Travel.
I went there on one of the days in the afternoon around 5 pm I guess, lots of girls again just like classic. I say about 100 in the main hall followed by another 80-100 in the backside behind the bar. They are drinking, eating, resting & getting ready putting on their make up for the main show. Not too many lookers, on average girls are 6 and very few in 7 and hardly in the 8 slot. Picked one and asked her for DFK / BBBJ through a translator. Surprisingly she said No, called her mamasan and asked if she will convince her. Mamasan said its not allowed she won't do and its not possible. That very moment dropped her and left, never returned. I don't know if I was unlucky, what do other punters think about the place and their experience. Please share. My rating POOR..I agree with you about travel: not so good locking girls. Moreover disco have to loud music, and connected bar is not so big.
About Kota Indian, I agrre about room cleaning and size: not good. But I saw a lot of good girls. I was wrong in the one I take: she was sick, for cold it may be. But I just discovered in the room.
About Emporium, you wrote 200 k entrance, but then how much was the girl price?
I will back to Jakarta in July, and I wold be happy for some new information.
Giovanni Volo
01-13-24, 22:35
Just got access to the site again, had problems logging in earlier. I have been in Jakarta for over a week now and like it so much so extended my trip by another 5 days. This place just keeps giving more and is a true mongering heaven. I am staying at Grand Hyatt, got a great price and I guess all the staff know me very well by now. Hotel is very well located next to the mall and all good places are nearby. Its central location allows me to be anywhere within 15-20 minutes. Jakarta traffic is not as bad as it was made out to be. I would like to thank all the mongers here on the forum who have helped me on PM, I sent numerous messages and they were very helpful and courteous in their reply. I hope this report helps everyone especially the newbies..Thanks for your reviews.
Last time I was just in 2nd floor, and I meet 2 very nice girls (found in a lot of them).
I would ask if you can found girls in Sauna are same nice as the 2nd floor or not.
Thanks for your rewiews.
Last time I was just in 2nd floor, and I meet 2 very nice girls (found in a lot of them).
I would ask if gyou can found girls in Sauna are same nice as the 2nd floor or not.Yes, thanks, SL. Were there any particularly busty (slim and stacked) beauties there?
Girls in emporium are 1. 2 mn and 1. 4 mn. 2 categories, they have separate seating next to each other.
I agree with you about travel: not so good locking girls. Moreover disco have to loud music, and connected bar is not so big.
About Kota Indian, I agrre about room cleaning and size: not good. But I saw a lot of good girls. I was worong in the one I take: she was sick, for cold it may be. But I just discovered in the room.
About Emporium, you wrote 200 k entrance, but then how much was the girl price?
I will back to Jakarta in July, and I wold be happy for some new informations. .
Yes, thanks, SL. Were there any particularly busty (slim and stacked) beauties there?DC, unfortunately stacked girls in Indo tend to carry a few extra pounds. The skinny spinners tend to be peas on a ironing board. If you are happy to tolerate a few lbs or years then you won't be disappointed.
For slim and stacked, there are still two options:
1/. Mixed girls where mom and dad come from regions that specialise in each. Can be very hard to find but worth the effort. I'll personally vouch for the Bali / Java mix.
2/. What's your budget?? Are you ok with silly cones?? If you are happy spend the $$s and tolerate the games then the Instagirls in Bali fit well.
PM for more info.
Enjoy. G.
Yeah, you can. I feel girls are less jaded and more fresh as very few punters come on this floor. Entry is 120 k and not many know about this floor. Mostly aim for 'Terminal' straight away when they enter the building. The spa is less noisy and the setup is more like Bangkok, but if you need more & lots of choices then don't come here. They have only 30-40 chicks at max. You can easily find 2-3 for your liking.
Thanks for your rewiews.
Last time I was just in 2nd floor, and I meet 2 very nice girls (found in a lot of them).
I would ask if gyou can found girls in Sauna are same nice as the 2nd floor or not.
The cups, yes. In spa basement I saw one with big big boobs, she provided excellent service to me in room, unhurried and GFE. And in terminal I do remember I saw this girl, she was like beautiful, tall around 172 cms like. Nice round ass (not heavy nor big) great shape and she had big boobs, very nice face. I couldn't take her, as she was with another punter first time and the next time I was already done with 2 girls. And I decided for her next time but she wasnt there. I feel terminal has something for everyone, those seeking petite small frame, huge big girls or big chest seekers.
I was happy with 2 things honestly, no Silicons and no LB's.
Yes, thanks, SL. Were there any particularly busty (slim and stacked) beauties there?
Excellent intel. Thanks so much for your report! BTW, can you recommend a budget hotel in the area, or even an AirBnB? Cheers.AirBnB. You have to look for yourself. Generally there won't be any directly around Lokasari, as AirBnB are located in high rise developments. Always confirm availability with the host before booking and avoid hosts without any reviews (the apartment might be new, but the host should have at least 10 reviews from other places).
I'm not 100% familiar with the hotel situation, but there are about 8-11 at and around Lokasari, all should be girl friendly. In 2022 I stayed at Prinsen Park Hotel and Olympic. Both are nothing to call home about, but Olympic is to a higher standard (and price). Olympic is advertised on all platforms like expedia, traveloka or booking. Prinsen Park only accepts advance reservations by Whatsapp message or phone call (numbers displayed at reception on the 4th floor).
Both hotels have a setup, where girls don't need to pass along reception. In Prinsen Park rooms are on the 5th floor, reception is at floor number 4. Always choose a room with courtyard view, due to excessive street noise. Olympic in turn has an official secondary entrance through the restaurant, completely avoiding reception. But again: places are girl friendly.
The cups, yes. In spa basement I saw one with big big boobs, she provided excellent service to me in room, unhurried and GFE. And in terminal I do remember I saw this girl, she was like beautiful, tall around 172 cms like. Nice round ass (not heavy nor big) great shape and she had big boobs, very nice face. I couldn't take her, as she was with another punter first time and the next time I was already done with 2 girls. And I decided for her next time but she wasnt there. I feel terminal has something for everyone, those seeking petite small frame, huge big girls or big chest seekers.
I was happy with 2 things honestly, no Silicons and no LB's.Good to know! Thanks SL! Hope they have some nice ones when I am there in July. Haven't been there for many years.
Gaijin Gigolo
01-15-24, 02:32
AirBnB. You have to look for yourself. Generally there won't be any directly around Lokasari, as AirBnB are located in high rise developments. Always confirm availability with the host before booking and avoid hosts without any reviews (the apartment might be new, but the host should have at least 10 reviews from other places).
I'm not 100% familiar with the hotel situation, but there are about 8-11 at and around Lokasari, all should be girl friendly. In 2022 I stayed at Prinsen Park Hotel and Olympic. Both are nothing to call home about, but Olympic is to a higher standard (and price). Olympic is advertised on all platforms like expedia, traveloka or booking. Prinsen Park only accepts advance reservations by Whatsapp message or phone call (numbers displayed at reception on the 4th floor).
Both hotels have a setup, where girls don't need to pass along reception. In Prinsen Park rooms are on the 5th floor, reception is at floor number 4. Always choose a room with courtyard view, due to excessive street noise. Olympic in turn has an official secondary entrance through the restaurant, completely avoiding reception. But again: places are girl friendly.Awesome intel, thanks very much!
Gaijin Gigolo
01-15-24, 02:34
AirBnB. You have to look for yourself. Generally there won't be any directly around Lokasari, as AirBnB are located in high rise developments. Always confirm availability with the host before booking and avoid hosts without any reviews (the apartment might be new, but the host should have at least 10 reviews from other places).
I'm not 100% familiar with the hotel situation, but there are about 8-11 at and around Lokasari, all should be girl friendly. In 2022 I stayed at Prinsen Park Hotel and Olympic. Both are nothing to call home about, but Olympic is to a higher standard (and price). Olympic is advertised on all platforms like expedia, traveloka or booking. Prinsen Park only accepts advance reservations by Whatsapp message or phone call (numbers displayed at reception on the 4th floor).
Both hotels have a setup, where girls don't need to pass along reception. In Prinsen Park rooms are on the 5th floor, reception is at floor number 4. Always choose a room with courtyard view, due to excessive street noise. Olympic in turn has an official secondary entrance through the restaurant, completely avoiding reception. But again: places are girl friendly.Sorry to see your other post got deleted. That's the reason I'm looking to stay near Lokasari. Do the girls you mentioned use whatsapp or some other dating or messaging app?
Captain Solo
01-15-24, 04:51
Have to visit the honeys in the Muslim world. Will hang out with a bro in Jakarta.
The A320 is fully loaded, like 98 %. Many large carry on pieces had to be checked into cargo hold at the gate. Lots of women in hoodies head covers and long multilayer dresses. Had to yield my window seat to a hooded girl who got lost.
Flight attendants are tall, slim, dark, pretty, attractive, got my eternal hope going. She's going around clicking a counting device for passengers. Could get passionate with her anytime.
Forget about crime ridden Colombia. Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore, Vietnam have many nice, clean, sexy, very attractive girls in safe locations.
If you want to reminisce with the girls who hung out in CJs BATS Red Square and Blok M in the heydays 10+ years ago, head to EP. They're just about all there.Those girls are much more fun to chat with than the ones in North Jakarta.
Hmm, difficult to quantify the risk. Everythings good fun untill they catch you with your pants down. The women are the worst Fat sadists in jilbabs, but the force seems to attract the zealots. They're mean.
Before you come you should sew maybe five US $100 bills into your shirt and wear it everywhere, even if you smell. Don't take it off. If theres a knock on the door when you are with a girl. Put your shirt on first. Don't worry about your dangly old nuts hanging down. When they kick the door in you should be wearing that shirt.
Another trick which OS often does is to dress like them. You can go to Tanah Abang textile market and get yourself some religous robes. There's a whole floor of stalls. OS will dress up like them for a nights partying and instead of handcuffs, the Sharia police are high fiving you when the raid happens.
Another advantage of this kind of robe is it's very easy to relieve yourself without anybody noticing if the toilet isn't clean or simply not available..This is sage advice. You have obviously mastered mongering in Jakarta.
Sorry to see your other post got deleted. That's the reason I'm looking to stay near Lokasari. Do the girls you mentioned use whatsapp or some other dating or messaging app?Yes, it seems I was not following some guidelines (In any case, for those that are looking for less "hardened" girls than in Travel or Classic: at Lokasari square you can finde "semi-pros" - I. E. Girls from North Jakarta with a day job, that want to earn some extra cash. Not every girl will be around every day. They are not Pros. It's 7-10 minutes walking away from Travel Hotel. The area is between Prinsen Park Hotel and the local KFC (at an underpass 100 meters from Prinsen Park).
The girls show up on the street from late afternoon to late evening. You have to deal with a mamasan. Prices should be 400-450 for the girls and 200 for a room at an adjanced hotel. Pushy mamasan, but these prices will be enough. Sex is generally BBBJ, BBFS, CIP. Bring some lube and condoms (if you want to use one) - the girls don't have any. In the room you can grab the phone numbers of the girls and they will be happy to meet you at your hotel or AirBnB next time for 400 to maximum 500. If you're well behaved you can ask them for contacts of their friends and other girls at Lokasari. They may bring a female friend along for safety. You can either invite her for a threesome (pay extra) or let them wait in the lobby or the bathroom.
The girls exclusively use Whatsapp to stay in touch. Some use tiktok and other social media. But you won't find them on dating apps.
Gaijin Gigolo
01-16-24, 03:50
Yes, it seems I was not following some guidelines (In any case, for those that are looking for less "hardened" girls than in Travel or Classic: at Lokasari square you can finde "semi-pros" - I. E. Girls from North Jakarta with a day job, that want to earn some extra cash. Not every girl will be around every day. They are not Pros. It's 7-10 minutes walking away from Travel Hotel. The area is between Prinsen Park Hotel and the local KFC (at an underpass 100 meters from Prinsen Park).
The girls show up on the street from late afternoon to late evening. You have to deal with a mamasan. Prices should be 400-450 for the girls and 200 for a room at an adjanced hotel. Pushy mamasan, but these prices will be enough. Sex is generally BBBJ, BBFS, CIP. Bring some lube and condoms (if you want to use one) - the girls don't have any. In the room you can grab the phone numbers of the girls and they will be happy to meet you at your hotel or AirBnB next time for 400 to maximum 500. If you're well behaved you can ask them for contacts of their friends and other girls at Lokasari. They may bring a female friend along for safety. You can either invite her for a threesome (pay extra) or let them wait in the lobby or the bathroom.
The girls exclusively use Whatsapp to stay in touch. Some use tiktok and other social media. But you won't find them on dating apps.Thanks again, this is exactly what I'm looking for. I certainly don't mind if a young hottie wants to bring a friend along, who knows what may happen. I probably will stay at Olympic as you suggested. Plan to be in Jakarta one month, possibly two. Have you had any luck roaming around the malls there hunting for willing young ladies? I had a LOT of success with that method in the Philippines and in Batam years ago when I lived in Singapore.
Captain Solo
01-16-24, 08:12
Flew from Singapore to Jakarta on Air Asia, 2. 5-hour non stop, $60. Plane was 98% loaded with lots of Indonesians and women in head covers.
Grab cars from airport to Classic should cost about 180 K are or $13, but fake Grab will quote 280 K are. Jakarta is a huge slum, a lot poorer and dirtier than Bangkok. Traffic was very heavy midday. ISG is banned, had to subscribe to a VPN. Stores sell no alcohol due to Sharia laws.
Checked into hotel Classic in the North part of Jakarta, infamous girls club, near the National Monument, Jakarta cathedral and main Mosque, all shiny marble floor and red teak wood furniture, nice, clean, classy with Chinese NY decorations, easily 5-star in LOS Angeles, $31 by Agoda.
The connected shopping mall had no client. Went to the swanky steak restaurant but it had no steak, had to order seafood fried rice which was very good.
Met up with an ISG bro, checked out Travel club, it had 50 spinners lounging lazily on couches, not very sexy. The extreme loud music and thick smoke were unbearable. We retreated to a juice store to talk. He still had jet lag after 27 hours in flight, so I went back to Classic.
2 clubs occupy the mall next to Classic, 30 K T cover, redeemable with sodas but not alcohol. Each had about 50 girls, almost all pretty spinners. The 2nd floor is a strip club, very loud music and heavy smoke, girls lounging lifelessly on couches. Aggressive mamasans swarm over pushing shit.
1st floor is a karaoke club, hot girls sing and dance on stage, old men belching songs, lower noise and smoke, young girls walk about playing, most are hot spinners, pretty faces, light skin ect very cute. This club is way more laid back, no pushy mamasans, nobody spoke enough English to explain to me the protocold to book a deal. Chunky manager explained girls sit in 3 groups, 375,410 and 600 are, $25,28 and 38 an hour incl. The room on premises. I quickly grabbed the cutest spinner flirting around I had my eyes on all along.
A big baller suggested I buy her a drink to feel get up. She ordered a Korean Sujo 125 K, my 2 Heins 200 K. We sat in a dark spot drinking. She was smiling with her pretty face and dental braces, cute like a doll, with a light sexy fragrance, from Yogyakarta, Java. I quickly kissed her mouth, sucked her tongue, copped her nice boobs, creamy thighs and soft crotch to confirm the goods. She exuded sweet, sexy, youthful femininity. My dick was rising uncontrollably just sitting next to her. She tried to use G Translate but it did not do Indonesian, WTF?
She took me to cashier to pay 410 K in cash, then went downstairs to the basement through arched stone tunnels like dungeons in castle to a room, nice, clean new sheets and towels with a shower but no toilet.
She was a beautiful spinner, about 5 ft 90 lbs, all natural A cups, softest, smoothest lightskin. I was sucking on her softest lips and perky tits. She was stroking my dick then gave me a very strong BBBJ. She mounted me in CG, struggled to penetrate my dick into her tiny and tight pussy. She got going, thrusting, moaning, stooping down to DFK.
She wanted doggie, loved it, groaning as I rammed her hard. We switched to mish a while. She opened her legs for me to eat her tiny pussy. We switched back to doggie then finished in mish. I popped hard, exhausted, panting. She was pleasant and sexy throughout. Gave her 50 K tip, she was pouting, asked for 1 more but I declined.
She gave me her tel for OTC dates. Would love to pin her down again. My dick is growing just thinking about that nice tight body squirming under me. Hard to find girls hot like her in BKK, and they would cost $150-180ST.
Quality, convenience, prices, Jakarta is a heaven for mongers.
https://www.socialexpat.net/indonesian-ministry-of-tourism-stirs-controversy-with-new-40-entertainment-tax-surge-policy-in-bali/
https://jakartaglobe.id/business/indonesias-hospitality-industry-demands-review-of-controversial-entertainment-tax-law
https://bnnbreaking.com/world/indonesia/indonesian-hotel-and-restaurant-association-challenges-entertainment-tax-hike/
It is intended for the goods and services tax for entertainment venues such as nightclubs, karaoke lounges, bars, and spas to a minimum of 40 percent and a maximum of 75 percent, a dramatic rise from the previous range of 10 to 35 percent.
It is not uncommon when the law states the tax bracket the local government will take opportunity to implement the maximum value in the bracket e. g. In this case 75%.
So it is a big jump from 35% to 75%. Who is paying this? They simply pass it to the consumers.
This might be because close to GE where this party wants to please people, clerics with a lot of followers who want to see the place like this to disappear.
Captain Solo
01-16-24, 12:00
Nice clean hotel, polished marble floor, red teak wood furniture, lots of nice restaurants within walking distance 5 - 7 minutes, ayce shabu and Korean BBQ ect.
Agoda will be lowest with $32 but Yosephine, daughter manager, will do $25 without and $29 with buffet breakfast.
She speaks English. Contact her at the hotel.
Hung Man 1808
01-16-24, 12:32
Those girls are much more fun to chat with than the ones in North Jakarta.You talk with the ones in North Jakarta?
Thanks again, this is exactly what I'm looking for. I certainly don't mind if a young hottie wants to bring a friend along, who knows what may happen. I probably will stay at Olympic as you suggested. Plan to be in Jakarta one month, possibly two. Have you had any luck roaming around the malls there hunting for willing young ladies? I had a LOT of success with that method in the Philippines and in Batam years ago when I lived in Singapore.Unfortunately, I went to Jakarta for 30 days before looking at this forum. I HATED it there. We had no luck in the malls. The only thing we knew was going to Classic. Since discovering this forum, I can't wait to go back for a 2nd round.
Thanks again, this is exactly what I'm looking for. I certainly don't mind if a young hottie wants to bring a friend along, who knows what may happen. I probably will stay at Olympic as you suggested. Plan to be in Jakarta one month, possibly two. Have you had any luck roaming around the malls there hunting for willing young ladies? I had a LOT of success with that method in the Philippines and in Batam years ago when I lived in Singapore.I would not suggest to stay at Olympic for one month. It's a convenient location for a week to collect numbers from girls after meeting them at Lokasari, but not that enjoyable. Just pay the mamasan 400-450 and take them to your room. After one week of taking girls directly from Lokasari, new introductions should ideally be made by the girls directly. Just ask them if they have friends that are interested. Quite a few introductions will be girls from North Jakarta that don't hangout at Lokasari (and of course not Travel), so you won't meet them anyway by staying close to that location.
Specifically for Olympic: it's a KTV place on the uppermost floor. So avoid the floor directly under the KTV (tell the staff when booking). Half the rooms do not feature windows. If you meet girls directly (as opposed to Mamasans in the area between KFC and Prinsen Park), you can instruct them to meet you at the back entrance (Exit of the restaurant). Mamasans are also happy to bring new arrivals to that entrance. Or just walk the 150 meters to KFC.
For the same price as Olympic you can rent a much more convenient AirBnB around North Jakarta. Just draw a one mile (1,4 km) circle around Lokasari and the girls will meet you at any location there. Reception or guards at apartment towers in North Jakarta aren't an issue. Just smile to them and say Hello, to create a colloquial mood.
Again, these are not Pros, so they are less prepared. Bring lubrication / lube. Have it at you, if you visit Lokasari and need to do a short term rental for each girl. That can be the difference between an enjoyable experience or the girl being very uncomfortable. If you need a condom: bring one. English language is a problem. Use Google Translate voice to speech for communication.
GentileBear
01-17-24, 00:31
Quality, convenience, prices, Jakarta is a heaven for mongers.Killer report Captain Solo. Yeah Indo blows the balls off of Zona Norte and Fields Angeles City. In 10 years we will all be saying ". Man I remember when Jakarta had so many thin ladies available and there were no tourists. ".
Killer report Captain Solo. Yeah Indo blows the balls off of Zona Norte and Fields Angeles City. In 10 years we will all be saying ". Man I remember when Jakarta had so many thin ladies available and there were no tourists. ".I suspect the situation in Jakarta will go south quite soon. But not because of over-tourism.
Let's be honest: the city sucks. The building stock is a mixture of slum-like dwellings and completely uninspiring high rises. Practically no old architecture to speak off, and no shiny new temples as in Bangkok. Roaring streets with no sidewalks and hardly any green space. Any body of water is essentially an open sewer.
However, other factors are working against us:
1. resurgence of religion. Until the late 90's it used to be fairly secular and most women no wearing hijab. Today the country is driven by populist islamist politics; it's easy to win elections with that agenda and the country is becoming more and more religious-conservative. Most women cover their head already (that used to be a minority). Legislation is introduced to criminalize sex before marriage and requiring a fine for public kissing.
2. demographic change. Indonesia is at a spot where Thailand used to be 20-30 years ago. The share of young people is in a slow decline. Add to that some economic development (= food intake) and you have a recipe for the kind of overweight early 30's girls that are common in the pay4 play scene in Thailand these days.
Captain Solo
01-17-24, 04:35
Tuesday had a good breakfast buffet at Classic, walked a couple blocks South, visited the National Monument, National Gallery, National Museum was closed, National Mosque. This central area is leafy and green, very upscale.
Went to a Japanese AYCE wagyu buffet at the huge Neo Soho mall on the West side for dinner, only $12. People laugh when I ask what beers they have. This area is new, with lots of high rises and fancy shopping mall.
So full, came back to hotel, took cold shower and went to sleep, but within 5 minutes, the dick disagreed to this plan. So about midnight went down to Classic Club on first floor. Live band, singers, dancers were still going strong. About 50 girls sit lifelessly in the 375 Rup section, 50 more in other sections.
Mamasans brought line ups, dozen girls each time, to guys and shone lights on them for selection, but these guys were cheap, not picking girls to party. I skipped the drinking, walked among the girls, asked one to go up, she turned me down, laughing with her friends, stupid *****. I asked Nesya, young, slim, pretty with good taste in clothes, beautiful and appealing without revealing. She immediately got up and went with me.
Went to cashier, paid 600 K Rupiahs for an hour, club makes half, gives her half. Was low on cash so put it on a Visa card, walked down the dungeon to the room. She took her dress off, beautiful like a doll with her pretty face, nice smooth soft skin, embarrassed about her A cups but they were sexy to me as long as they are natural, not man made. She spoke enough English, was very gentle, always giggling like a little girl.
She took a good shower. We went on the bed cuddling. She loved to kiss, sucking on my lips and tongue. Her skin was glistening smooth and soft. I was sucking on her tits while toying her clit. She was guiding my hand, eyes fluttering, groaning in pleasure.
I asked her for a BBBJ but she was reluctant. I did not insist. She spread her legs. Her pussy was tiny, pink and pretty, smelling dainty with just a hint of perfume. I sucked on her tiny clit. She was convulsing, her soft thighs clenched tight around my head.
I hot on top, gently pushing my bare dick into her pussy but it was too tight, did not go in. Had to try to work it in gradually. Inside it was a warm, wet, snug fit. I had to pump this fragile girl very gently, lovingly. After we got a good rrythm of strokes into her wet and snug pussy, she went wild, groaning, thrashing, bucking her crotch forcefully, her wet pussy gripping my dick tightly as she slowly pulled out with lots of friction. She was having a lot more pleasure than I. I was even afraid my dick may be pulled clean off the base, leaving a stump hehe.
I popped big, had a much sexier, more passionate session with Nesya than with Melan last nights hot, sexy, unabashed GFE with a very beautiful young girl. We we lying bed cuddling, exhausted after the long session. Her skin was dry and smooth. She loved to kiss. We kept swapping tongues.
Finally suggested to her to go back to the club do I could buy her drinks, but she declined, did not want beers or sodas. She looked tired, perhaps a little guilty of the wild, hot sex she just had with me. She gave me picture in bed burying her face in the pillow.
She took a shower, washed up carefully then put on her clothes and make ups like a classy lady after a wild, passionate affairs with a lover. She gave me her tel, agreed to meet OTC. Her Whatsapp show her with her hubby, said she has a baby.
She had deep affection for this beautiful and gentle girl, offered her 100 K tip for which she was grateful. The poor girl only made $25 for her family. I wanted to spend more time with her in the club but she had to go into the dingy make up room in the dungeon. The chubby manager went back down to check on her before clearing me to go. The club was still going strong with singers, dancers and guys partying.
Big thanks to ISG bros who convinced me hot GFEs with beautiful young girls are avail in Jakarta. Sorry gov censure makes it difficult to upload pics.
You talk with the ones in North Jakarta?Of course. I spew the broken bahasa to whoever will listen. Other than the 3 squeeker mutes in Blok M around 20 years ago, I converse with any girl anywhere in town. Now that I think of it, I also talked to the mutes. Haha.
I have to talk to the girls to convince them to wear the sexy maid, nurse, and flight attendant, etc costumes I bring with me for a pre shag photo session. (yes, I even bring those to north Jakarta for my in-room experiences).
Killer report Captain Solo. Yeah Indo blows the balls off of Zona Norte and Fields Angeles City. In 10 years we will all be saying ". Man I remember when Jakarta had so many thin ladies available and there were no tourists. ".I said that 20 years ago. It's already spoiled.
Expat American
01-17-24, 08:03
I suspect the situation in Jakarta will go south quite soon. But not because of over-tourism.
Let's be honest: the city sucks. The building stock is a mixture of slum-like dwellings and completely uninspiring high rises. Practically no old architecture to speak off, and no shiny new temples as in Bangkok. Roaring streets with no sidewalks and hardly any green space. Any body of water is essentially an open sewer.
However, other factors are working against us:
1. resurgence of religion. Until the late 90's it used to be fairly secular and most women no wearing hijab. Today the country is driven by populist islamist politics; it's easy to win elections with that agenda and the country is becoming more and more religious-conservative. Most women cover their head already (that used to be a minority). Legislation is introduced to criminalize sex before marriage and requiring a fine for public kissing.
2. demographic change. Indonesia is at a spot where Thailand used to be 20-30 years ago. The share of young people is in a slow decline. Add to that some economic development (= food intake) and you have a recipe for the kind of overweight early 30's girls that are common in the pay4 play scene in Thailand these days.Agreed. Tourists will never be a big part of the scene except at the few places like Malio which are geared to white men. The local driven scene can only support prices local men can pay. The danger is from Islamic fundamentalism or some stupid do gooder NGO.
NRandom940
01-17-24, 08:36
Agreed. Tourists will never be a big part of the scene except at the few places like Malio which are geared to white men. The local driven scene can only support prices local men can pay. The danger is from Islamic fundamentalism or some stupid do gooder NGO.I had a great time at Kings Cross.
A lineup of attractive girls. Cost like $25 usd and no games. Never tried to cheat me or anything. Straight to business.
Might even be the best place I've ever mongered. Just a shame the rest of the city is boring and I hate spicy food.
This was summer 2022.
Gaijin Gigolo
01-17-24, 09:24
I would not suggest to stay at Olympic for one month. It's a convenient location for a week to collect numbers from girls after meeting them at Lokasari, but not that enjoyable. Just pay the mamasan 400-450 and take them to your room. After one week of taking girls directly from Lokasari, new introductions should ideally be made by the girls directly. Just ask them if they have friends that are interested. Quite a few introductions will be girls from North Jakarta that don't hangout at Lokasari (and of course not Travel), so you won't meet them anyway by staying close to that location.
Specifically for Olympic: it's a KTV place on the uppermost floor. So avoid the floor directly under the KTV (tell the staff when booking). Half the rooms do not feature windows. If you meet girls directly (as opposed to Mamasans in the area between KFC and Prinsen Park), you can instruct them to meet you at the back entrance (Exit of the restaurant). Mamasans are also happy to bring new arrivals to that entrance. Or just walk the 150 meters to KFC.
For the same price as Olympic you can rent a much more convenient AirBnB around North Jakarta. Just draw a one mile (1,4 km) circle around Lokasari and the girls will meet you at any location there. Reception or guards at apartment towers in North Jakarta aren't an issue. Just smile to them and say Hello, to create a colloquial mood.
Again, these are not Pros, so they are less prepared. Bring lubrication / lube. Have it at you, if you visit Lokasari and need to do a short term rental for each girl. That can be the difference between an enjoyable experience or the girl being very uncomfortable. If you need a condom: bring one. English language is a problem. Use Google Translate voice to speech for communication.Roger that, airBnB is is then. Cheers!
Killer report Captain Solo. Yeah Indo blows the balls off of Zona Norte and Fields Angeles City. In 10 years we will all be saying ". Man I remember when Jakarta had so many thin ladies available and there were no tourists. ".The monger who goes to Pattaya is different to the one who likes Classic Hotel. The girls are a minor part of the overall experience.
My average spend in Jakarta including everything like flights, hotels, etc seems to almost always come to around $150 per day, in Bangkok my last trip came to about $200 per day. Not a big difference. Of course cost per day will be less in Pattaya maybe similar to Jakarta but I haven't done those calculations.
Average of 5 girls per week in Jakarta all ST, 3 in Bangkok but this includes LT as well. I spend more on alcohol in Bangkok simply because of easy availability, overall it is a more enjoyable trip, more variety of experiences, everything is much easier in Bangkok something as simple as buying a SIM takes 3 minutes at the airport.
Of course I could add 11 or 12 sessions per week at Classic and come to a similar spend per day as Bangkok, but it gets very boring for me especially Classic, and breakbeat music is an acquired taste. 5 girls per week is about my limit, with 2 or 3 being optimum.
Captain Solo
01-17-24, 14:56
Tuesday had a good breakfast buffet at Classic, walked a couple blocks South, visited the National Monument, National Gallery, National Museum was closed, National Mosque. This central area is leafy and green, very upscale.
Went to a Japanese AYCE wagyu buffet at the huge Neo Soho mall on the West side for dinner, only $12. People laugh when I ask what beers they have. This area is new, with lots of high rises and fancy shopping mall.
So full, came back to hotel, took cold shower and went to sleep, but within 5 minutes, the dick disagreed to this plan. So about midnight went down to Classic Club on first floor. Live band, singers, dancers were still going strong. About 50 girls sit lifelessly in the 375 Rup section, 50 more in other sections.
Mamasans brought line ups, dozen girls each time, to guys and shone lights on them for selection, but these guys were cheap, not picking girls to party. I skipped the drinking, walked among the girls, asked one to go up, she turned me down, laughing with her friends, stupid *****. I asked Nesya, young, slim, pretty with good taste in clothes, beautiful and appealing without revealing. She immediately got up and went with me.
Went to cashier, paid 600 K Rupiahs for an hour, club makes half, gives her half. Was low on cash so put it on a Visa card, walked down the dungeon to the room. She took her dress off, beautiful like a doll with her pretty face, nice smooth soft skin, embarrassed about her A cups but they were sexy to me as long as they are natural, not man made. She spoke enough English, was very gentle, always giggling like a little girl.
She took a good shower. We went on the bed cuddling. She loved to kiss, sucking on my lips and tongue. Her skin was glistening smooth and soft. I was sucking on her tits while toying her clit. She was guiding my hand, eyes fluttering, groaning in pleasure.
I asked her for a BBBJ but she was reluctant. I did not insist. She spread her legs. Her pussy was tiny, pink and pretty, smelling dainty with just a hint of perfume. I sucked on her tiny clit. She was convulsing, her soft thighs clenched tight around my head.
I hot on top, gently pushing my bare dick into her pussy but it was too tight, did not go in. Had to try to work it in gradually. Inside it was a warm, wet, snug fit. I had to pump this fragile girl very gently, lovingly. After we got a good rrythm of strokes into her wet and snug pussy, she went wild, groaning, thrashing, bucking her crotch forcefully, her wet pussy gripping my dick tightly as she slowly pulled out with lots of friction. She was having a lot more pleasure than I. I was even afraid my dick may be pulled clean off the base, leaving a stump hehe.
I popped big, had a much sexier, more passionate session with Nesya than with Melan last nights hot, sexy, unabashed GFE with a very beautiful young girl. We we lying bed cuddling, exhausted after the long session. Her skin was dry and smooth. She loved to kiss. We kept swapping tongues.
Finally suggested to her to go back to the club do I could buy her drinks, but she declined, did not want beers or sodas. She looked tired, perhaps a little guilty of the wild, hot sex she just had with me. She gave me picture in bed burying her face in the pillow.
She took a shower, washed up carefully then put on her clothes and make ups like a classy lady after a wild, passionate affairs with a lover. She gave me her tel, agreed to meet OTC. Her Whatsapp show her with her hubby, said she has a baby.
She had deep affection for this beautiful and gentle girl, offered her 100 K tip for which she was grateful. The poor girl only made $25 for her family. I wanted to spend more time with her in the club but she had to go into the dingy make up room in the dungeon. The chubby manager went back down to check on her before clearing me to go. The club was still going strong with singers, dancers and guys partying.
Big thanks to ISG bros who convinced me hot GFEs with beautiful young girls are avail in Jakarta.
Captain Solo
01-17-24, 15:14
Based on ISG info I went to hotel Prinsen Park. It's near hotel Travel, very busy with lots of street food stalls.
In parking lot behind Prinsen Park, a woman accosted me, said 400 K. She took me into hotel EF right there, roused up 2 sleeping girls in the hot, filthy room. Both are wiry, skanky, with tattoos and skin lesions, looking very bad. I quickly declined. They followed me down out to the street.
The woman took me to the ice cream store with couple girls sitting on stools, playing. She took the hands of 2 and insisted I take them to hotel EF. They looked nice, clean, pretty but questionable in age. I was only checking the scene, not really wanted to do anything, so just got out.
That area looks bad and risky.
99% of mongers like those who go to Pattaya or Bangkok are not even able to go to Isan to monger à la local, so if they go to Jakarta they will not even last 48 hours and take a return plane ticket to Pattaya or Bangkok.
Captain Solo
01-17-24, 18:15
Rainy Wed morning, took Grab car to Chinatown Westside for lunch, Grab took me on a very long ride in congested traffic to a very rough, run down neighborhood, pointed to a location across a huge sewage canal. Had to cross the street with thousands cars and bikes that did not slow down. Damn.
On the overpass over the canal found a little boy shivering under an umbrella, selling a bunch of donuts. This people is very poor. Stopped to give him a tip to cheer him up.
With all these bullshit glowing reviews in Maps, lunch was very bad and way too expensive. Wanted to throw up. Planned to get to the swanky Neo Soho plaza but Maps and Grab could not find my location despite many attempts. I was stuck out in the boondocks in the rain, serious fucked.
After trying and waiting I decided I needed to get closer to civilization do boarded an old beat up small blue van. He was heading East them North. I had no idea where he was going but was getting closer to city center. Found a major intersection, told him to stop, paid 4 K are. Was trying to book Grab ride when I noticed the intersection and street looked familiar. Turned out I was only 200 feet West of hotel Classic.
Jakarta is not worth any time dight seeing. The poverty, to dirty streets with run down dwellings depressed the shit out of me. To cheer up, had to checkout the street scene near Prinsen Park hotel and Travel club in that neighborhood.
Came back to hotel Classic, went to Classic Club 2 on 2nd floor to check on the talents. It's a dancing club with about 80 girls slouching on couches looking tired and depressed. Mamasans were pushing their girls aggressively with lineups which I had to turn down. A few were doable, but Travel was having 4 x as many girls.
Drank a big beer, 115 K or $10, decided on a pretty doll Dyah Mi in a black dress. Called the mamasan over; she said 365 K are or about $25. I made her instruct Dyah she had to do everything. She said don't worry. Went to cashier, paid with a CC. Dyah speaks enough English.
Classic Club 2 has its own rooms, nice, clean modern. We took a shower together. I was washing her pussy when she started groaning softly. I knew she was faking shit.
We dried up. I showed her my fat wallet, promising a big tip if she was nice to me. I was sucking on her tits, playing with her clit, sucking on her lips and tongue. She was groaning, hissing louder, very fake. She was beautiful lie a doll, soft, smooth skin, be cups we're starting to droop. She fid a serious BBBJ. I threw the condom away, penetrated her BB, too tight, took serious effort to get in. I pounded her pretty hard in various positions. She was saying " no, no " but she meant no stopping the hard thrusts hehe.
By the time she was wailing loudly, her pussy started smelling fishy to like a tuna can. Damn. I popped pretty quick, went to the shower to pee out and wash it with soap. Hope my dick won't fall off. Tipped her 100 K.
Did not have much feeling with her like with Nesya the night before. Nesya was so classy gentle and loving I want have OTC time with her.
Based on ISG info I went to hotel Prinsen Park. It's near hotel Travel, very busy with lots of street food stalls.
In parking lot behind Prinsen Park, (...)
That area looks bad and risky.Generally Jakarta and Indonesia are very safe by American standards. The homicide rate per 100.000 is one of the lowest in the world. Below major European countries such as Germany or the UK. Crime-wise Jakarta is a lot safer than NYC. It looks shady, because in developed nations the state of disrepair of North Jakarta is associated with crime ridden neighborhoods. But that's just your normal third world environment. And the reason it will never attract tourists. But nobody owns a gun and violent crime is about the only thing authorities take serious.
Have you tried walking from Prinsen Park north to the KFC at the underpass to the mall? If I recall correctly, from early evening most girls will be at that location.
Also: just stand your ground with mamasans. Just repeat that you're only taking one girl and 400-450 is your last offer (+ rent for the room). If you don't find something you like, you can always just walk over to Travel Hotel and try your luck there.
BenderOver
01-18-24, 02:51
The area is between Prinsen Park Hotel and the local KFC (at an underpass 100 meters from Prinsen Park).
I've walked around Lokisari before and see where Prinsen Park Hotel is at (the corner). Is the KFC you're talking about the one in the middle of the Lokisari parking lot about 100 meters north of the parking entrance? The area in between is a lot of loose small kiosk like retail stores. Really small. Or is there another KFC I'm not aware of? Never noticed what this underpass is, but yes there is some sort of building structure that sits above the KFC.
Gaijin Gigolo
01-18-24, 04:39
Based on ISG info I went to hotel Prinsen Park. It's near hotel Travel, very busy with lots of street food stalls.
In parking lot behind Prinsen Park, a woman accosted me, said 400 K. She took me into hotel EF right there, roused up 2 sleeping girls in the hot, filthy room. Both are wiry, skanky, with tattoos and skin lesions, looking very bad. I quickly declined. They followed me down out to the street.
The woman took me to the ice cream store with couple girls sitting on stools, playing. She took the hands of 2 and insisted I take them to hotel EF. They looked nice, clean, pretty but questionable in age. I was only checking the scene, not really wanted to do anything, so just got out.
That area looks bad and risky.What is Hotel EF? Google search turned up nothing.
Irish Mongrel
01-18-24, 06:42
Roger that, airBnB is is then. Cheers!Just make sure you get an apartment that doesn't have security cameras. I'd considered using AirBnB previously in Jakarta (I've used it in a lot of other countries) but was surprised to see security cameras mentioned in a number of listings. Looking further into that, and AirBnB's policies, providers are allowed to have cameras in public areas within the apartment. That was a thanks but no-thanks for me when I was on a hobby tour. Public areas includes the lounge, and I've certainly had the odd bit of fun on the sofa before.
Actually started putting me off using AirBnB altogether, who knows where else they have cameras.
KilledSoul
01-18-24, 07:30
By the time she was wailing loudly, her pussy started smelling fishy to like a tuna can. Damn. I popped pretty quick, went to the shower to pee out and wash it with soap. Hope my dick won't fall off. Tipped her 100 K.
I have experienced this in Colombia where the girl's pussy only starts smelling once she has an orgasm. Can Seniors chime in if this is a natural scent or if this is because of some health issue. I didn't catch anything from that provider so I am hoping its not infectious.
Natural odour, cum releases natural odour when its released.
I have experienced this in Colombia where the girl's pussy only starts smelling once she has an orgasm. Can Seniors chime in if this is a natural scent or if this is because of some health issue. I didn't catch anything from that provider so I am hoping its not infectious.
Offshore Swell
01-18-24, 09:21
Rainy Wed morning, took Grab car to Chinatown Westside for lunch, Grab took me on a very long ride in congested traffic to a very rough, run down neighborhood, pointed to a location across a huge sewage canal. Had to cross the street with thousands cars and bikes that did not slow down. Damn.
On the overpass over the canal found a little boy shivering under an umbrella, selling a bunch of donuts. This people is very poor. Stopped to give him a tip to cheer him up.
With all these bullshit glowing reviews in Maps, lunch was very bad and way too expensive. Wanted to throw up. Planned to get to the swanky Neo Soho plaza but Maps and Grab could not find my location despite many attempts. I was stuck out in the boondocks in the rain, serious fucked.
After trying and waiting I decided I needed to get closer to civilization do boarded an old beat up small blue van. He was heading East them North. I had no idea where he was going but was getting closer to city center. Found a major intersection, told him to stop, paid 4 K are. Was trying to book Grab ride when I noticed the intersection and street looked familiar. Turned out I was only 200 feet West of hotel Classic.
Jakarta is not worth any time dight seeing. The poverty, to dirty streets with run down dwellings depressed the shit out of me. To cheer up, had to checkout the street scene near Prinsen Park hotel and Travel club in that neighborhood.
Came back to hotel Classic, went to Classic Club 2 on 2nd floor to check on the talents. It's a dancing club with about 80 girls slouching on couches looking tired and depressed. Mamasans were pushing their girls aggressively with lineups which I had to turn down. A few were doable, but Travel was having 4 x as many girls.
Drank a big beer, 115 K or $10, decided on a pretty doll Dyah Mi in a black dress. Called the mamasan over; she said 365 K are or about $25. I made her instruct Dyah she had to do everything. She said don't worry. Went to cashier, paid with a CC. Dyah speaks enough English.
Classic Club 2 has its own rooms, nice, clean modern. We took a shower together. I was washing her pussy when she started groaning softly. I knew she was faking shit.
We dried up. I showed her my fat wallet, promising a big tip if she was nice to me. I was sucking on her tits, playing with her clit, sucking on her lips and tongue. She was groaning, hissing louder, very fake. She was beautiful lie a doll, soft, smooth skin, be cups we're starting to droop. She fid a serious BBBJ. I threw the condom away, penetrated her BB, too tight, took serious effort to get in. I pounded her pretty hard in various positions. She was saying " no, no " but she meant no stopping the hard thrusts hehe.
By the time she was wailing loudly, her pussy started smelling fishy to like a tuna can. Damn. I popped pretty quick, went to the shower to pee out and wash it with soap. Hope my dick won't fall off. Tipped her 100 K.
Did not have much feeling with her like with Nesya the night before. Nesya was so classy gentle and loving I want have OTC time with her.Poor girl would be confused. You show her a big fat wallet and promise her a big tip then hammer away and then give her only 100K, WTF?
I've walked around Lokisari before and see where Prinsen Park Hotel is at (the corner). Is the KFC you're talking about the one in the middle of the Lokisari parking lot about 100 meters north of the parking entrance? The area in between is a lot of loose small kiosk like retail stores. Really small. Or is there another KFC I'm not aware of? Never noticed what this underpass is, but yes there is some sort of building structure that sits above the KFC.Yes. There is only one KFC and it is on the left hand side when you walk into the compound.
I have been here multiple times. The quality of the girls is bad to mediocre.
And *some* of these girls are Pros.
I prefer to pay 200K more and visit other venues which offer better selection.
~BKKguru
Captain Solo
01-18-24, 15:28
I came back Thursday night. The place had about 50 girls slouching on couches in club, another 50 in the break room behind the stage.
Mamasans were aggressively pushing girls, 375 and 500 K in wide varieties of heights and weights, some tiny dolls, a few tall and big with huge boobs and butts, more like US taste.
Dj was playing techno music until 8 when a live band started karaoke. Guys were belching on stage.
Classic sells full girls beer bottles for 125 K, but Travel has guys bring trays of 50 whiskey shots, 35 K each, looks like whiskey but really just tea. Girls would plead for 3 or 6, knock them down quickly, give you a little squeeze and rub then quickly disappear, the worst bar girls' scam in the world. Just don't buy those fake shots.
Other guys were sharing beers with girls from pitchers, order food, sit with their girls a long time. That's a better deal.
ThePrince1127
01-18-24, 19:42
What is Hotel EF? Google search turned up nothing.It's hotel FF, directly opposite the KFC. I think it is next to a bank.
Hi there just returned from Jakarta and my visit to blok m. I am not a massage person so not much to report on this.
I did venture out to my bar blok. M and although not as busy as before there are still some activities going on.
I haven't been there since 2019 but there were a few old faces and quite a few new ones around since I am.
Familiar with the bar I am comfortable with the surroundings only other bar around is next door but I didn't.
See much happening.
Captain Solo
01-19-24, 06:01
I fly around to new countries in Asia every few days, so I constantly exchange currencies. I always count and use XE.COM to get estimate how much I would get.
At CGK I had about 1 million Rupiahs which I should get about 1. 5 mil VN the. The little girl in the booth did a calculation with her calculator and showed me 500 K. I showed her XE conversion but she said hers is airport rate.
I was about to lose 2/3 with her exchange, less than $100, but I hate to be cheated so I demand my money back.
Be careful with your $ Billions exchanges or any transaction in Indonesia.
Captain Solo
01-19-24, 06:11
Nesya was new in Classic 1 by far the prettiest, gentlest girl.
I Whatsapp her to meet again but she said on the rag. Damn.
Any bro want to try her let me know.
Sugar Spa: Paid a visit to sugar spa near Hotel Santika Premier. I am not sure why this place gets a mention on the forum. Its not nice, period. Have a feeling some monger has a vented interest and is promoted extensively. Not cheap much more than a usual massage place. Lady mamasan, she was hot and I enquired about her availability and each time she said no. Paraded about 5 girls and I said No, she paraded another 5-6 and they were same mediocre quality, since I was committed and had time to kill selected one. At best she is a 6. 5. Went upstairs, nothing great. Normal small room with no windows, massage was decent. I wasnt too much into her so just banged her forcefully, did not finish and wanted to save for classic. You pay at exit on lower floor, damage 600 k+. Not worth it.
My rating for this place see.
CJ's: nightclub in Hotel Mulio, South Jakarta.
Decent and nice, lots of FL's to choose from. There are single girl groups from Malaysia / Singapore and nearby countries so do not confuse them for WG's. Age bracket is good, several in mid 30's with few in 40's. Quality on display was good; a few of them were hot and not available. Decent music, drinks are expensive whiskey 150 k or more. Girls quote you anywhere between 2-3 juta but you counter with 1 mn and stand your ground. Good success, took 2 friends to my hotel room in Grand Hyatt with ease, charges 2 juta together. My rating for the place A.
BATS: nightclub in Shangri-la, South Jakarta.
Started slowly, good time to come 11 pm or later, peppy music. Again good line up of FL, some similar personalities from CJ's. Age bracket slightly on a higher side as confirmed by many punters before, some decent MILF's. If you like mature step here otherwise stick to CJ's for younger bodies. Picked one for 1 juta and had a great time in room. She was a school teacher and had a day off. Great time in room juices were flowing endlessly, finished twice at night and once in the morning, open minded and great attitude. Saw her at the club again, bought her a drink and this time she recommended her friend. Similar charges and decent service. Overall good.
My rating for this place A.
Hey Friends.
I have been in Jakarta twice, in 2019 and 2023. In my first visit stayed in Hotel Classic in Central Jakarta and Bfashion in West Jakarta. Explored Classic, Travel and visited Collosium Disco club. I got a lady from Indonesian Cupid and she was good. Just for a day. For me Dating sites in Jakarta in good so the girls will come in hotels to stay full night. I visited CJs in Mullia on my first visit with my lady and saw lots of tamed mature good looking ladies in the bar to come for full time. In Bfashion the Sauna and MP was good at that time and rooms were felt better. It was only a 4 night visit.
In my second visit in 2003 I stayed two nights in Holiday inn and Two nights in Mercure. This time also I got a girl from Indonesian Cupid but she was not at par with my expectation. We went to BATS, CJs and those bars and girls inside were awesome for me. Full grown ladies with good face and experienced. Next day I went with my girl to EP in South Jakarta to see the Mblock area. I was so exicited see the clean roads and great atmosphere in South Jakarta. My intention towards Jakarta changed to explore Soth Jakarta next time. On my way back from South Jakarta, even though heavy traffic saw few attractive Spas and Clubs in the main road itself.
I visited Malio club, Kelap Gading clubs after sending back the lady. Lots of reports in the forum so not much explanation from my side. I visited Dheaven in East also but they won't allow to see girls directly.
Planning a 4 day visit in February. Intention is to stay in South Jakarta for two nights and Central Jakarta for two nights. Wish to get helping tips in South Jakarta on freelancers club in that area. I prefer to take the lady to my room. Thinking of BATS, CJs and EP ladies. Not much active reports from South Jakarta these days. Please put some comments on this area too.
Regards Friends.
Expat American
01-19-24, 14:51
I came back Thursday night. The place had about 50 girls slouching on couches in club, another 50 in the break room behind the stage.
Mamasans were aggressively pushing girls, 375 and 500 K in wide varieties of heights and weights, some tiny dolls, a few tall and big with huge boobs and butts, more like US taste.
Dj was playing techno music until 8 when a live band started karaoke. Guys were belching on stage.
Classic sells full girls beer bottles for 125 K, but Travel has guys bring trays of 50 whiskey shots, 35 K each, looks like whiskey but really just tea. Girls would plead for 3 or 6, knock them down quickly, give you a little squeeze and rub then quickly disappear, the worst bar girls' scam in the world. Just don't buy those fake shots.
Other guys were sharing beers with girls from pitchers, order food, sit with their girls a long time. That's a better deal.If you want to pkay the bar girl drink game, Malio is way better. Girls are topless, they DFK and even let you finger them for the price of a couple of the fake shots for a good amount of time. Cute girls to and many speak English. I had a good time with that.
I Love Boobs
01-19-24, 15:23
Nesya was new in Classic 1 by far the prettiest, gentlest girl.
I Whatsapp her to meet again but she said on the rag. Damn.
Any bro want to try her let me know.Do let me know Captain!
Much appreciated.
Captain Solo
01-19-24, 15:43
That's more reasonable.
Will try it next time.
Based on ISG info I went to hotel Prinsen Park. It's near hotel Travel, very busy with lots of street food stalls.
In parking lot behind Prinsen Park, a woman accosted me, said 400 K. She took me into hotel EF right there, roused up 2 sleeping girls in the hot, filthy room. Both are wiry, skanky, with tattoos and skin lesions, looking very bad. I quickly declined. They followed me down out to the street.
The woman took me to the ice cream store with couple girls sitting on stools, playing. She took the hands of 2 and insisted I take them to hotel EF. They looked nice, clean, pretty but questionable in age. I was only checking the scene, not really wanted to do anything, so just got out.It's by far fewer girl than you get in Travel or Classic. But it's a different experience. I recommend to visit in early evening. If you see "girls of questionable age" I suggest to just ask them their age or inquire about ID.
As for the price you have to factor-in, that BBFS, CIM is standard around Lokasari. While it has to be negotiated (and paid for) with the girls in Travel or Classic. But essentially you are not losing out by visiting Lokasari: it's close by to Travel Hotel. So if you don't like the choice of the day you can just take stroll over to Travel Hotel.
For Airbnb: I never encountered cameras apart from the lobby at the entrance of the apartment tower. Certainly not in the apartment (there are apps to check, which devices are connected to the local network. A camera will show up, unless it's disconnected from the internet). Maybe if you rent an individual room in a shared apartment that may happen. But why would you do that anyway? Only book "entire apartments" - there is a filter option for that.
Nesya was new in Classic 1 by far the prettiest, gentlest girl.
I Whatsapp her to meet again but she said on the rag. Damn.
Any bro want to try her let me know.I will be in Jakarta next week. So captain, I will appreciate if you can share.
I haven't seen any mention of SA (seeking) girls here. Just wondering.
Captain Solo
01-20-24, 01:22
Hi NesyaHai Nesya sayang. Ini Kapten Solo.
Apakah kamu bekerja malam ini?
Saya di hotel Classic. Ingin bertemu denganmu malam.
Nesya: Saya libur kerja.
Nesya: Lagi menstruasi.
Gaijin Gigolo
01-20-24, 02:22
It's by far fewer girl than you get in Travel or Classic. But it's a different experience. I recommend to visit in early evening. If you see "girls of questionable age" I suggest to just ask them their age or inquire about ID.
As for the price you have to factor-in, that BBFS, CIM is standard around Lokasari. While it has to be negotiated (and paid for) with the girls in Travel or Classic. But essentially you are not losing out by visiting Lokasari: it's close by to Travel Hotel. So if you don't like the choice of the day you can just take stroll over to Travel Hotel.
For Airbnb: I never encountered cameras apart from the lobby at the entrance of the apartment tower. Certainly not in the apartment (there are apps to check, which devices are connected to the local network. A camera will show up, unless it's disconnected from the internet). Maybe if you rent an individual room in a shared apartment that may happen. But why would you do that anyway? Only book "entire apartments" - there is a filter option for that.Thanks again for the advice. Do you have any specific airBnBs (condos) that you've stayed in and would recommend? I'll be in Jakarta for a month, maybe two and need solid internet speed as I'll also be working remotely. Cheers for all your input on this area.
Gaijin Gigolo
01-20-24, 02:27
It's hotel FF, directly opposite the KFC. I think it is next to a bank.Got it, thank you.
I Love Boobs
01-20-24, 03:08
It's by far fewer girl than you get in Travel or Classic. But it's a different experience. I recommend to visit in early evening. If you see "girls of questionable age" I suggest to just ask them their age or inquire about ID.
As for the price you have to factor-in, that BBFS, CIM is standard around Lokasari. While it has to be negotiated (and paid for) with the girls in Travel or Classic. But essentially you are not losing out by visiting Lokasari: it's close by to Travel Hotel. So if you don't like the choice of the day you can just take stroll over to Travel Hotel.
For Airbnb: I never encountered cameras apart from the lobby at the entrance of the apartment tower. Certainly not in the apartment (there are apps to check, which devices are connected to the local network. A camera will show up, unless it's disconnected from the internet). Maybe if you rent an individual room in a shared apartment that may happen. But why would you do that anyway? Only book "entire apartments" - there is a filter option for that.Can we ask the Mamasan straight up if the girl will do BBFS?
I presume once the girl agrees to BBFS, I can creampie the girl.
Are these girls screened for STDs and are they on contraception?
Very surprising this happened with you considering all of them need to print a transaction receipt at the end, they can't offer bad rates as there are multiple kiosks and one can go to the other one and compare rates. Usually airport authorities will never allow this to happen, rather strange. 3-4 % fluctuation is given.
I fly around to new countries in Asia every few days, so I constantly exchange currencies. I always count and use XE.COM to get estimate how much I would get.
At CGK I had about 1 million Rupiahs which I should get about 1. 5 mil VN the. The little girl in the booth did a calculation with her calculator and showed me 500 K. I showed her XE conversion but she said hers is airport rate.
I was about to lose 2/3 with her exchange, less than $100, but I hate to be cheated so I demand my money back.
Be careful with your $ Billions exchanges or any transaction in Indonesia.
Hi there just returned from Jakarta and my visit to blok m. I am not a massage person so not much to report on this.
I did venture out to my bar blok. M and although not as busy as before there are still some activities going on.
I haven't been there since 2019 but there were a few old faces and quite a few new ones around since I am.
Familiar with the bar I am comfortable with the surroundings only other bar around is next door but I didn't.
See much happening.In my upcoming trip in February, my plan is to explore the J Seltan. MBlock, EP, H club and looking for freelancers in that premises. If it won't workout will stick on local spas. Where you usually stay while in South?
Expat American
01-20-24, 14:48
Can we ask the Mamasan straight up if the girl will do BBFS?
I presume once the girl agrees to BBFS, I can creampie the girl.
Are these girls screened for STDs and are they on contraception?Yes all the girls are screened weekly for STD at the top Jakarta hospital by world renowned STD specialist. You have zero chance of catching anything. So Creampie away!
Yes all the girls are screened weekly for STD at the top Jakarta hospital by world renowned STD specialist. You have zero chance of catching anything. So Creampie away!Whew, I was nervous that maybe having unprotected sex with a prostitute might be risky. But I can rest assured now thanks to your post!
Muzungufotsy
01-21-24, 01:38
Yes all the girls are screened weekly for STD at the top Jakarta hospital by world renowned STD specialist. You have zero chance of catching anything. So Creampie away!That's so funny. Love it LOL.
Muzungufotsy
01-21-24, 01:39
Can we ask the Mamasan straight up if the girl will do BBFS?
I presume once the girl agrees to BBFS, I can creampie the girl.
Are these girls screened for STDs and are they on contraception?Are you that naive? Dude wake up!
Yes all the girls are screened weekly for STD at the top Jakarta hospital by world renowned STD specialist. You have zero chance of catching anything. So Creampie away!Classic have a money back guarantee if you catch anything too. Not many customers are aware of this.
1001 colosseum.
I was excited about this place another punter also recommended, high end with entry charge of 200 k with a drink. Saw about 60-70 girls sitting at a distance. Very beautiful with many stunners. Lady mamasan was pretty and helpful, spoke clean english and has always helped me in my selection. Price here is around 1. 4 mn, but before that saw the international selection. They are seated in a private area and are called downstairs. I was blown away by the quality. Drop dead gorgeous. About 15-17 of them each better than the other. Only 10's. Viet thai russian kazak, great bodies sharp features and stunning face. Price 3. 3 mn. Nice rooms, luxurious and one could spend the night over. I've had 3 locals and 1 international by now. Very happy and satisfying. Enjoy 30 minutes in the cabana next to the pool followed by 60 in the room. Sadly you can't take them to the pool, its only for punters. My rating A+.
Emporium.
Same setup as 1001 but on a smaller scale, entry 200 k. Choices are less but still very good. Took a beauty and went to spa with her. I took steam and sauna while she changed, when I came out she was in her robe. Took it off and she's in her bikini, oh my god. Great shape great contours, we step inside the pool. It was heavenly, just magical, 30 minutes passed by like a breeze off to the room for 60 minutes. Great service. I've done 3 girls by now, rooms are very nice try to take the suite. Excellent setup. My rating A+.I will be in Jakarta in March. How much were the girls at Emporium?
They have 2 lineups on the sofa. 1. 2 juta and 1. 4 juta. All girls are 8, some 9, rarely you'll see a 7. Overall experience is good and enjoyable. Do report.
I will be in Jakarta in March. How much were the girls at Emporium?
Dude, I flipped when you wrote this, are you serious! I am waiting for a reply and want to know mamasan's reaction when you ask her this.
Can we ask the Mamasan straight up if the girl will do BBFS?
I presume once the girl agrees to BBFS, I can creampie the girl.
Yes. The Grab FEEL option was hidden until OS lifted the curtain.
Recommended - but advance booking is required. Tips are optional.
~BKKguruIs this option not available for iOS. I tried looking but didn't find.
That's so funny. Love it LOL.If some should still be confused. And I hope nobody is:
Yes, you can catch an STD if you bare-back a girl. Your Tinder date and in particular pay4 play girls. Particularly in poor countries you should assume that girl don't get tested for STD and will only seek treatment with antibiotics if they show overt symptoms of an infection. Particularly syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia can be with little symptoms in the first years. Even more so in women. However: the only real concern for men is HIV. And as long as you're a man doing a girl, the risk of transmission is a lot lower than for chlamydia or gonorrhea.
However, for peace of mind, I'm taking some precautions:
- I'm taking PreP against HIV during my travel, prescribed by my doc at home; in me it does not have any notable side-effect; it's probably overkill, but my health care provider is covering 95% of the price. So I don't mind.
- I'm vaccinated with Gardasil9 against HPV.
- I'm tested for all kinds of STD 2-3 times a year (again, fully covered).
- after a long stay, I take a round of locally sourced antibiotics that will clear any unnoticed chlamydia / gonorrhea.
As for asking the mamasan: don't. Not in Travel Hotel. Not at Lokasari. The girl needs to save face. If a girl really is hesitant at Lokasari (which I encountered exactly once), you can promise that you will finish on her stomach. But most girls are fine with CIP. In Travel / Classic I have a 70% success rate of negotiating BBFS.
AirBnB: I don't have any particular recommendation. Just read the reviews of previous guests. I would stay away from ELPIS apartments (to the east of Lokasari) though; you'll find 6-8 offers there. But even on the 15th floor there was a bug infestation and the train line directly next to the tower causes quite some noise.
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