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Little Jared
09-10-06, 14:39
hey gents
I am stuck in the middle of Umeda right now and I would like to avoid the "internet afe all night" plan.
has anyone an advice for bars, clubs, and generally speaking places with girls and which don't close the night (sunday night)?
If I were in Tokyo, I would go in a club in Shibuya or to Roppongi, if that can make my search clearer.
For ex, I hear about Namba but I have no idea if it is a kind or Kansai Roppogi. I assume it's not.
thank you in advance for quick response (here or pm) and sorry for what is obviously a FAQ. the last time I promise (until the next time? ok joking)
PS: and if anyone knows about how much is a taxi ride from umeda to tennoji and namba, thank you (and if you know another cheaper way of going to those places... )
Jared
Lubricate It
09-10-06, 15:00
Jared,
It's getting a bit late tonight, but in case you're still checking in at the internet cafe, you will find all the locations you have mentioned are linked by underground rail, which I recommend. As a closer location try the bridge just south of Shinsaibashi (station on Midosuji line) following through the arcade. Taxi from Umeda on a Sunday probably between 1000 and 2000 yen. The bridge (known as hikkakebashi) is a famous pickup location. If you cross over the bridge to the south area you will find a quasi red light district, about 5-10 minutes walk from Shinsaibashi station. I don't know Namba very well - its a bit further away - but there are quasi red light areas around the station. Tennoji is further away still.
There are the delivery health places, and I think they would come to the Westin as well as anywhere. You will need to speak Japanese. I have never seen hookers around the Westin like I have around the Prince Shinagawa, but then the Prince Shinagawa is pretty unique that way because of the number of male, lecherous, business trip guys there. If you want to take a short subway, there is always Kujo. (See post below.)
Any info?
Thanks
I checked this place out on Wednesday, and it was pretty beat. http://www.doosaka.com/ I think the weekends might be better, and if you take a date you can get into the back rooms. You need to speak Japanese, and thoroughly familiarize yourself with the guidelines on the web site. Can anyone else recommend something similar or a Couple's Coffeshop（カップル喫茶）?
I was thinking about going to a party on Sunday October 10 that I learned about at Do Osaka (see below). For more information in Japanese, see <www.erotomania.tv>. If you need an explanation in English you can PM me.
Hello everyone.
Today I'll go to Osaka and will stay 3 days.
I review some reports. Before I go to Tobita, I want to go to Matsushima Shinchi. It is written "just take the Chuo line to Juso". However I can not find Juso station. Where is Juso?
One more question is where is Napoleon Building.
Please help me.
By the way, does Tobita open even mifnight?
The first time I went to Tobita was by fluke. Actually I didn’t “go” there at all, I passed through, having taken the wrong turn after leaving tsutenkaku, or “Tennoji tower.”
The whole area of Tennoji/Shin-Imamiya strikes me as grimy. The ground seems unswept, the shops decaying; even the air has a pre-breathed sense, as if the entire community there is under the thumb of an unchecked entropy.
Anyway I’ll spare you my social commentary. I kept walking and the grime continued until I happened down a corner (as it turns out, a fateful corner) and was confronted with all the round white lights. If you’ve been there, you know.
This was winter. I noticed the mamas in house dresses with small coverlets over their knees, sitting beside space heaters, and, in the genkans that weren’t unoccupied, behind the mamas the girls sitting under spot lamps, smiling their polished, porcelain smiles.
I kept walking.
Two times after this I did the same thing, albeit these second and third walkthroughs were more exploratory, prurient, fueled by a latent curiosity.
Finally one rainy night in March, on impulse borne of a constellation of causes I can’t even enumerate, I somehow retraced tracks I had made years earlier and found Tobita again. I had no umbrella. I turned in the first genkan I came to—the mama was fortunately welcoming.
“Irrashai!” she offered. (Welcome.) “Taberu?” (Do you want to eat?)
I nodded sheepishly, and responded in the affirmative. The yukata-wearing girl in the spot lamp was, by my standards, a bit large, but she had very pretty eyes and a lovely smile.
We went upstairs, the girl guiding me gingerly. The mama san, perceptively aware this was my first venture into the area, went up with us and sat next to me in the small tatami-room, holding in her hands a sheet of laminated paper containing prices—the course menu, as it were.
I chose the half hour. I can’t remember exactly but it was a little over 20,000 yen (it probably came to 200 US$.) I paid up, the mama-san made change, and with a “Go-yukkuri, douzo” (enjoy yourself/take your time) was gone.
When we were alone again, the girl politely asked me to get undressed. There wasn’t any English used, not now or anytime I’ve been to Tobita since then.
She left the room, telling me she’d be right back. This gave me a chance to survey the small quarters. My heart seemed to be fairly thumping in my chest—or maybe that was just an illusion caused by the driving rain outside.
The tatami room was about six mats—smallish, then. There was a lowcut side table with a shibori cloth, a few CD’s, a men’s magazine, and a half-empty pack of menthol cigarettes. The walls were pretty bare but there was a poster of, I think, Madonna—perhaps some 90’s incarnation. A small CD player was in one corner, beside a framed standup coat rack with two empty hangars lolling on it. The futon lay to the side of the room, with a Winnie the Pooh quilt spread over it and, beside it, a plastic tub containing disinfectant spray, a bottle of lotion, and a case of handiwipes. The dim lamp which lit the room sat on the floor. Charming.
The girl came back a long minute later. I hadn’t undressed since I was not sure what I thought I heard was what I had heard, so I was still sitting there unoccupied, though now she had brought a tray containing a cup of Japanese green tea and a small individually-wrapped biscuit. She closed the door behind her and it was just us.
I opened the plastic packet and ate the biscuit dutifully, and drank the tea. My mouth seemed drier than usual. I had been chewing gum when I came in but couldn’t remember where it had gone—it sure wasn’t in my mouth anymore.
She told me, again, to get undressed. I never knew how fast I could obey that request, but I had wrestled my way out of my jeans, sweater, socks, and t-shirt and was standing in my boxers before she had even slipped off her obi. (She was wearing a yukata; this was the end of Spring.)
Her name, she said, was “You.” I’ve been in Japan long enough to know she probably spelled it “Yu” in the Roman alphabet, but something seemed oddly fitting about spelling it with the y.o.u. Some unacknowledged Puritan guilt on my part, maybe.
She gave me a few instructions about placement (I was to lay down on my back on the futon, which now struck me of dubious cleanliness. I wondered how many other young or old men had lay here before me.)
I took off my shorts and lay down there anyway. So here I was naked in front of this stranger. What kept going through my mind was the obvious, thrilling idea: THIS GIRL IS ABOUT TO LET YOU FUCK HER.
I asked her what I should do. Whatever you like to do, she said.
When she finally disrobed, I saw the cotton kimono which had seemed large on her was actually not so large—she was a big girl, big hips, a little on the plump side. She had largish breasts, but they still managed to defy gravity. So she’s young, I thought.
I asked her. Twenty, she said.
I started with her breasts, as is my usual habit. Almost immediately she initiated a short time-out so she could spray my cock (now at full attention) with some coolish liquid I imagine was disinfectant, and wipe it down with a shibori cloth. She then applied a condom to me with her mouth.
I let her fellate me briefly, then she allowed me to touch her between the legs. As soon as I touched her I realized that during her hiatus out of the room she had applied a lubricant to her vagina. (I’m not being humble: Her scent there was not completely girl; there was a perfumed, not at all unpleasant odor.)
She let me finger her for some time. The half hour seemed endless. She turned over, and I caressed her from behind. She made the requisite moaning sounds and even went so far as to say “Iku, iku” which, as one knows, means “I’m coming.”
I rose to my knees and entered her from behind. I was overly careful, worried of catching a disease, and made sure several times not only that the condom didn’t come off but that I wasn’t touching her unprotected.
Eventually, I rolled back over and she, gracious girl that she was, finished me off with her mouth (condom: Still on.)
Time elapsed: About 20 minutes. We chatted for a bit, she told me a few stories of her life of dubious veracity, I thanked her excessively and went back downstairs, put my shoes on again (as I laced up my boots a rather seedy white van stopped right in front of the place and idled in the rain. A couple of Japanese guys with dyed-blonde hair sat in the front seats and gave me a once-over before pulling off) and eventually went back out into the rain.
The second time I went to Tobita was two months later. I reconnoitered a bit more this time, and was flatly ignored by a few mamas. I was asked in by perhaps just as many, and some I didn’t approach at all. Ah, how quickly one becomes choosy.
The girl I chose was, again, young, but strikingly beautiful. She was wearing a dark-blue race-queen dress. Her name, she said in her quarters, was Eri.
Eri was twenty. She had blonde hair and a face like an angel. She was much more petite than You had been, but had smaller breasts. She had the one of the most beautiful pussies I’ve ever seen—a perfect triangle of black hair. Again, she left and came back—presumably to lubricate herself.
She let me touch her only briefly, applied a condom with her mouth as You had done, licked my nipples, fingered my scrotum, and of her own volition sat upon me and rode me until I came. Which was in short order.
This was a girl who, months later, stays in your head so that you relive that moment. I could have spent hours just looking at her. I have no inclination to go find her again—I hope she’s moved on—but she was really a knockout.
Again, we talked afterwards. I believed everything she told me, but it might have all been lies. I told her she should quit this line of work. She said the job wasn’t fun but she made a lot of money. She had come from Kyushu to Osaka when she was a teenager with her boyfriend. I didn’t ask if he was in the picture anymore. She asked me if I had a girlfriend. I lied and said no.
The third time was a girl named Kana, wearing a high school girl’s uniform. On this occasion I chose Kana for the shape of her face and nose—she looked like someone I knew a long time ago. Once more Kana claimed she was twenty. One wonders, but then what can you do? She seemed to be proud of the uniform-bit but I am not really into that.
Kana spoke to me quite a bit. I got the feeling she was trying to see how much Japanese I knew. For some reason I told her my real name. After a little small talk, she moved next to me and said “So I’m an E-Cup. Touch them.” I did.
I took off her sweater, unbuttoned her blouse, and she took off her elastic-banded bra. She sat there topless and I sucked her lovely E-cup breasts. On cue, but straightforwardly, asked me to wait a second and applied the lubricating jelly to herself right there in front of me. Then she put the condom on, applying it with her hand. I think Kana may have been new: She said she had only worked there a week.
I fucked her while she was still wearing the plaid schoolgirl skirt. Eventually I asked her to take the skirt off, and we both managed to slip it off her. She wouldn’t let me do her from behind: “It’s a little painful,” she said.
I wondered if she had misunderstood—I am not into anal, and tried to tell her I just meant rear-entry—but either she didn’t get it or even rear-entry was a no-go, because she was having nothing of it.
We fucked for the full time. She did in fact have E-cup breasts, the prettiest I have seen on a Japanese girl. Pink aureole. Very firm and shaky, that familiar up and down all around motion as you admire her beneath your thrusts. Kana was also blonde. She looked at my face as I was riding her, but her noises were less-than-convincing.
With Kana I almost went over-time. I wanted to chide her if she had only let me do her from behind this could have been over a lot sooner, but then what the hell was I complaining about.
The last time I went to Tobita I was with a girl named Yuka, who of all four girls was definitely in her twenties. She was average size but with large breasts—for a reason. You could feel the silicone. This put me off a bit, but she was wearing garters and thigh-stockings which were preoccupying enough that I didn’t care about fake tits.
Yuka was a veritable conversationalist. She couldn’t stop talking, even when I was fucking her breasts—she kept saying “Oh, this is making me so shy.” Right, Yuka. But she was sweet enough, and of all the girls she really wanted to show me a good time.
I fucked her sideways (with a condom—though Yuka had fellated me for a minute or so bareback before she put the condom on) and came very quickly. She kept asking me to do it to her from behind, but I was pretty well spent.
After this she gave me a long, though inexpert, back massage. She seemed disappointed it was all over so fast (she wasn’t the only one.) As I mentioned, throughout all this was a steady stream of conversation. At the end, after I had dressed, she wrote her mobile phone email address on a small business card and asked me to mail her. She seemed very sincere.
The e-mail came back undeliverable. It’s just as well.
So that’s Tobita from my side. I don’t take pictures there and don’t encourage it. Maybe it’s just me but I don’t see the place as a tourist attraction—at least not like Disneyland or USJ. It’s as much a cultural experience as a tea ceremony, and in my book we should respect the rules of the house (and in Tobita the whole couple of blocks constitutes the house.) There are even signs saying “NO PHOTOS!”
Hope this was interesting.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
However I can not find Juso station. Where is Juso?
... does Tobita open even mifnight?
Juso is the main hub of the Hankyu Train Line, about 5 minutes from Umeda(Osaka).
Tobita is more active at nifht.
Hanshin Baka
10-15-06, 23:20
However I can not find Juso station. Where is Juso?
One more question is where is Napoleon Building.
Please help me.
By the way, does Tobita open even mifnight?Juso is easier to get to from the Hankyu Line. To get to the Napoleon building go out the entrance that does not have a KFC or Mr. Donut right at the exit. Go to the other side and walk through the tunnel (Shotengui). Cross the street and veer left. Make a right on the main street where all of the strip\cosplay clubs are (I don't think any of these places let in gaijin). Go to the second block and make a left -- the Napoleon building is the second building on the left. There is a strip club called the Boston Club on the 5th floor (gaijin friendly -- decent girls). On the third floor is a pink saloon that is also gaijin friendly if you speak moderate Japanese. The tout outside will offer it to you if you ask about the Boston Club.
Planned on going to Club Coco, but had trouble finding it on account of it moving down the street.
Inquired at the free "an nai" center and the attendent called Coco's for me, mumbled something about foreigner, and said they would be open 3 hours later. I decided to take a chance and head up on my own, hoping my language skills might get me in sooner. Turned out the door was closed, but I noticed an Este place just one floor down.
The guy was friendly, and promised the picts were the actual girls, and that for 15,000/60min all included. They have a 80min course for 18,000(?). I think you might get 2 shots with that one.
We chatted for about 15 minutes while waiting-he is Chinese but passes for Japanese easily. I complained about the Tokyo rip-offs, but he said all his girls provided excellent service and didn't request tips or more money.
When my gal, Yuko, showed up she was pretty much like the pict, just not as stylish that day the pro had her pose. Body a 7-8, face 6. About 155cm/45kg/26yrs. We headed down the street to a hotel (she paid 2,500) and got down to business.
Showered together, fantastic 25 minute massage, BBBJ, and FS. Showered and wrapped up the whole adventure at about the 50minute mark.
Wasn't pure GFE, but was pleasent and the massage was outstanding (she was a massauese in China). Her Japanese was pretty good, but no English.
She called the shop and had me confirm I was satisfied with the service-something I think is a good touch.
Since Tobita is 11,000 for about 15 mintutes, I think this is the better option. Not rushed, and everything you want in a comfortable hotel setting, but without having to check in and wait for a mystery girl for an unknown period of time.
The name I don't remember exactly, but something like Huan.
Take the #25 exit out of Namba station, walk past the McDonalds and it is just one or two more blocks. You will see the big STEP building across the big road on the right. If you get to the river you have gone 1 block too far.
It is on the 8th floor of the same building of Club Coco, use this map:
http://www.club-coco.com/top.html
Need I to now Japanese in both clubs or not?
Hello Lion,
I am here in Osaka 3 more days so I wanna have some "fun".
For the 2 Club you wrote need I to speak Japanese or maybe in the "Chinese" one can I speak English? Because I am Eurpoean don't look and Speak Japanese.
Hello Lion,
Thankss for the notice about FC in Osaka. I am here another 3 days and I want to have some fun. Unfortunally I don't speak any Japanese and I don't look Japanese too, so is it impossible to go to CoCo or the other "Chinese" club you wrote?
Hello Lion,
Thankss for the notice about FC in Osaka. I am here another 3 days and I want to have some fun. Unfortunally I don't speak any Japanese and I don't look Japanese too, so is it impossible to go to CoCo or the other "Chinese" club you wrote?
You might find it less fun to play with someone who can't communicate with, but I doubt the Chinese place will say no.
Coco's might say no if there are no willing girls, but sometimes they are interested in practicing English while they blow you.
Sorry for my 3 post and THX for the answer. But I wanna find Tobita maybe I will do nothing there but just to tell to friend.
2 days ago I try to go there but I never found it.
I take out at Dobutsuen-mae station and choose exit 8-9 (or something like that) and I was in a very poor part of Osaka. Many Homeless People ext.
Wich is the right way to go to Tobita?
http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?lat=34%2F39%2F55.802&lon=135%2F30%2F9.608&layer=1&sc=1&mode=map&size=l&pointer=on&p=&CE.x=534&CE.y=375
Hope this helps. It's almost fool proof.
http://www.21orover.com/japan/nws/Tobita/
Two by Four
10-22-06, 15:02
I had the EXACT same problem but luckily I am a stubborn ass, so I just kept walking, and then......there is was. Rows and rows of young hot J girls.
I am caucasian, was solo, wearing a jacket and slacks, and got about a 40% "dozo" rate from the mama sans. Don't act like an asshole and you will get invited into some places.
Anyway back to directions. its south east of Dobutsuen mae station. Maybe 500 meters south east of exit 2. Exit 2 is your best bet (thanks Tokyo Fun for good directions!!!) go south through the slightly scummy covered shopping arcade. Ignore the homeless. Then make a left after abour 5-10 minutes.
2X4
Sorry for my 3 post and THX for the answer. But I wanna find Tobita maybe I will do nothing there but just to tell to friend.
2 days ago I try to go there but I never found it.
I take out at Dobutsuen-mae station and choose exit 8-9 (or something like that) and I was in a very poor part of Osaka. Many Homeless People ext.
Wich is the right way to go to Tobita?
Finally I found Tobita and it was really a dream as you worte here.
I am a Gaijin and I don't look Asian at all, I am Italian so white skin black Hair. I was in Tobita at 13:00 and 60% of the "Shop" where Open. I was surprise that 70% of Mama san say to me Hello,, or Dozoo. I can't speak Japanese but when I decided wich girl I wanna it was easy to do BumBum. It was like to make love with a GF. So Tobita is Gaijin friendly as long as we go there and we make not Problem. I hope Bad Guys (like me), you will go there to have fun but Gaijin don't make problem or in a Future there will be no More Mamasan invite us to enter this nice world. I think to be there alone and so soon was a tip for me, of course I don't look Dangerous and I was dressing well (Oakley, Hugo Boss, Armani ecc) and I was smiling to all Mama san.
Here I report the bettter way to go to Tobita. Following this instructions it was easy for me to find this Incredible place:
Hi,
Just landed in Osaka for few days trip and visited Tobita (hope spelling is correct) the traditional RDL near Tennoji.
A straighforward way to reach the area. Maybe I will make you walk 10 minutes, but you can't miss it. Only straight until a clear landmark. Here it is : get a map of Osaka underground system (you can have one free in any station, just ask the staff they will give you one free in english).
Reach station "Hanazonocho", go to exit 3A. You'll pop out on a pavement at a main traffic light. Do not cross the road, just turn left and follow the pavement. Go straight down following the main road, keep on the left side. Walk for about 5-6 minutes, about 500m. In correspondence to traffic light -the 6th- you will see a small convenience store called "Bread and Food", it has a yellow neon panel resembling a sun. You can't miss it.
Turn left in the small road at this traffic light and you will be in right in the heart of the district. You will notice the white first lanterns of the shops. There is a network of small roads with many shops.
Mamasan are inside with girl on display sited nearby, walk slowly and look at the girls there, sooner or later some of them will call you in. Basically it is a gaijin-friendly district, I went twice and had no problem to be accepted, even if -lets say- about 60% of shop mamasan did not call me in.
I only visit this place during midday or early afternoon because I read in this forum that is a dangerous place. Actually it looks a little eary, with strange people an bums walking around the station area. In the district itself I saw less people... however the air was sort of screaming "behave.... behave....".
In other words I do not think it is a place to go drunken or in groups with "happy" friends, like in the central RLDs. It is the heart of old-style japanese sex life, so its better to be cool there.
If you speak some japanese will help a lot, anyway I don't and everything went smooth.
It is a nice japanese old stile experience. Take care and be safe.
TJ
Sukhumvit Sam
10-28-06, 14:20
This post will be dedicated to my recent "discovery" of TOBITA/HANAZONOCHO, but before I forget: A great big THANK YOU is going out here to both Brigategb and Teddy Johnwa: You guys rock!
Scheduled, on very short notice, to spend 2 days/2 nights in Osaka earlier this week, I checked this thread the night before.
Never having been to Osaka before (not counting a single brief layover at KIX a couple of years back), I had no idea what to expect. Except that Japan has been called "the land of tears" (somewhere on this forum, as I recall), and has the reputation (deserved or not) of being gaijin unfriendly.
My previous short jaunts to LOT had always been to Fukuoka, always on brief business trips out of Korea. I probably couldn't count the number of times I've walked round Nakasu in vain; and ISG, it must be said, has NOT been a help with Fukuoka, one of LOT's biggest cities. So it's been, what? four or five trips to FUK for me now? And never a shot at any action.
So what happened to me in Osaka the other day came as a VERY pleasant surprise, on more than one level.
First, I jotted down Teddy Johnwa's directions to Tobita before leaving Korea.
I can confirm that they are EXACTLY correct. Hanazonocho Subway Station (conveniently just two stops from NAMBA station, which is essentially the public transport hub of the city), exit 3A, turn left (do not cross the street). I'd just add that you may have to walk more like 10 minutes, maybe 12 or 15 (as opposed to just 5-6), before reaching the "Bread and Food" convenience store. (Of course, I may just be a slow walker, or TJ a fast one.) You'll pass a set of train tracks along the way. "Bread and Food" is impossible to miss, as it's signposted that way IN ENGLISH, with the sign facing onto the street. In other words, it's a bit of a walk, but a straight shot from the subway. Impossible to get lost, even at night.
So I went Wednesday night (Oct. 26) and . . . was disappointed. (On this first, failed visit.) I wandered the entire area between about 10 and 11 PM. Most of the shops were shuttered. There were no cars, and almost no pedestrians, anywhere in sight. The entire area was all but deserted, with precious few signs of life. I was shaking my head in dismay: How can the city's big RLD be closed at this time of night? (To be sure, the first two shops just to the left of Bread and Food did invite me in, but neither of the two gals there appealed to me, so I kept walking.)
I'm a white guy, by the way, and speak no Japanese beyond phrasebook level--just to get that out of the way.
Returning to ISG the following day, I noted that TJ says he likes to go midday, and that Brigategb had also gone in the afternoon. Armed with this fresh new info, I decided to try again.
On my second visit, made around 3 to 4 PM Thursday, I found many, many shops open. (Most, seemingly, were still shuttered. Do some of them never open? Is Japan still that depressed economically, or are the police and/or yakuza involved somehow? I'm curious: any Japan veterans out there with some insight?) By daylight, it was more clear than clear to me that I'd stumbled open what has to be one of the largest RLD's anywhere on earth, stretching for many, many blocks in every direction, with almost every single storefront a brothel (if most, once again, shuttered). Enough of them, however, (100+?) were open for business that the effect was still impressive.
Each shopfront featured an identical mise-en-scene: An elderly mamasan standing at the opening; a younger woman (mid-twenties to maybe 35 or 40) sitting in a chair a few steps behing her. All the women I saw wore Western-style dresses (off-the-shoulder, but not otherwise sexy) or, in a few cases, kimonos. They were not overly made-up or noticeably "whorish." The few propositions I received, all from the mamasans, were not aggressive in nature. Simply, "Dozo."
After many circuits of the neighborhood, I turned a corner and was greeted by my fourth or fifth "Dozo." (Most mamas ignored me, but I don't know if that's because I'm gaijin or because I don't speak the language and wasn't trying any method of approach save occasional eye contact.) This one seemed pleasant and polite, so I stopped to acknowledge her greeting. The youngish, pretty provider jumped out of chair, and greeted me with a warm smile. Everything seeming to be copacetic, I agreed to pay the 11,000 yen tariff (for 20 mins.). No problem with the language barrier: The price was posted on the wall, in prominent Arabic numerals, the mama said "twenty minutes" in English, and the provider smiled at me the entire time.
What followed was unmistakeably one of the best 20 minutes of my entire life.
I'm not going to add many details, because they couldn't do justice to the experience. Suffice it to say that the entire session was HIGHLY GFE, and VERY, VERY professional.
Having been to Thailand several times now, and with Tobita as a brand new point of comparison (I'd never been with a J-Gal before), I've got to say that my whole world has been rocked. Who needs BKK, when Japan can provide for you like this? (I won't even mention Korea. Nightmares.)
To sure, 11,000 yen looks a bit on the steep side. Consider though: A visit to Soi Cowboy. One drink for you, one for the lady. A second round, maybe a third; maybe a semi-mandatory mamasan drink or two. A barfine. Short-time might be quoted at 1500 baht. You might be asked to take the gal upstairs, in which case you'll be charged for the room. All that might set you back close to 4000 baht, which at today's exchange rate comes to . . . 12,800 yen.
JAPAN WINS, HANDS DOWN!
Thank you mamasan, and thank you, my anonymous Tobita GF for 20 minutes!
Thanks no less to Jackson, Brigategb, and Teddy Johnwa: it wouldn't have happened without you!
Sukhumvit Sam
Finally I found Tobita and it was really a dream as you worte here.
I am a Gaijin and I don't look Asian at all, I am Italian so white skin black Hair. I was in Tobita at 13:00 and 60% of the "Shop" where Open. I was surprise that 70% of Mama san say to me Hello,, or Dozoo. I can't speak Japanese but when I decided wich girl I wanna it was easy to do BumBum. It was like to make love with a GF. So Tobita is Gaijin friendly as long as we go there and we make not Problem. I hope Bad Guys (like me), you will go there to have fun but Gaijin don't make problem or in a Future there will be no More Mamasan invite us to enter this nice world. I think to be there alone and so soon was a tip for me, of course I don't look Dangerous and I was dressing well (Oakley, Hugo Boss, Armani ecc) and I was smiling to all Mama san.
Here I report the bettter way to go to Tobita. Following this instructions it was easy for me to find this Incredible place:
Thank you mamasan, and thank you, my anonymous Tobita GF for 20 minutes!
Thanks no less to Jackson, Brigategb, and Teddy Johnwa: it wouldn't have happened without you!
Sukhumvit SamIt was more or less the same for me. A wonderful experience and i miss my Mamasan and the Girl that was so friendly to me.
It was a pleasure to help you Sam!
Good find. I used the LAT/LON listed on 21Over map to find Tobita on Google Earth. Had to monkey around a little, but found the area. Here are the coords I used for my GE bookmark:
Google Earth
34°38'38.66"N
135°30'19.76"E
Hope this helps. It's almost fool proof.
http://www.21orover.com/japan/nws/Tobita/
Teddy Johnwa
10-31-06, 10:29
... thank to you Sam for your detailed report...! I am happy that my instructions worked fine...! And we all have to thank Jackson that made this great site...!
By the way, for all of us, lets keep the Japanese scene up and clean, lets treat these sweet girls well, and let's respect the rules, even when we do not understand them...
Many of us are worried about the "only japanese" approach of too many places in Japan... I know that many of those places are even better than Tobita, if we keep our manner up, more and more shops will be glad to serve a foreigner...
Cheers,
Teddy
Thanks no less to Jackson, Brigategb, and Teddy Johnwa: it wouldn't have happened without you!
Sukhumvit Sam
By the way, for all of us, lets keep the Japanese scene up and clean, lets treat these sweet girls well, and let's respect the rules, even when we do not understand them.
Many of us are worried about the "only japanese" approach of too many places in Japan. I know that many of those places are even better than Tobita, if we keep our manner up, more and more shops will be glad to serve a foreigner.
Cheers,
TeddyI am with you at 100%.
Hello, I will be in Itami for one night before I fly out for business and was curious if there are any recommendations for delivery health near the area, comments and suggestions are welcome.
Thanks!
Henry Hentai
11-21-06, 17:53
Gents,
I am in Osaka today and tomorrow, and am looking to do some mongering, both of the P4P and nampa variety. I've poked around the area today (sorted out where Tobita is) and speak pretty good Japanese. Apologies for the very short notice, but if anyone is game, by all means send me a PM.
Cheers,
HH
Went to Tobita again recently. The experience wasn't the best of the times I've been, but I'll catalogue it here for the curious.
I went on a weekend-- a Saturday just after one p.m. Not the best time, I think. From what I've heard the "shops" only open at noon and not all of them at that. I'd say only about 1/5 of them were open at that time.
There were a few guys walking about, but not so many. I tend to walk a bit behind the Japanese guys, so they're not right behind me. The mamas have mirrors and can see you coming, and by my reckoning they're keen to keep the Japanese clientele, and might ignore you if they think they they'll lose the business of the Japanese who are next in line. This is just a poorly-researched theory.
I stopped in to a place with another girl in a high school uniform. Mainly because I wasn't getting any "Irrashaimase" from most of the other mamas.
Tobita has all sorts--older women, younger women, women in costume, "large" women, and so on. There were more of the "larger" type that day, it seems. A lot of genkan were empty so maybe I was just having bad luck in that the girls who would've really been my type were occupied at the time.
I stopped after one round of one of the blocks--I was in kind of a hurry, so I didn't reconnoiter the whole area.
So I went in, and they asked if I could handle Japanese. No problem.
The girl had no breasts really to speak of, which was disappointing. She was friendly and seemed young--younger than she said, perhaps, but she claimed she was "hatachi"--twenty years old. That seems to be the stock answer.
Her nom de guerre was Miho. I only paid for 15 minutes (11,000 I think). I paid, of course, up front.
Said she was from Osaka city. Dropped the skirt, blouse, loose socks and bra immediately--on retrospect, I would've liked to have taken those off her myself (I should have asked to do so.)
She asked me to lie down on the bed. I obliged, and kneeled beside me and jacked me off for a bit bareback. Her little titties shook during this which was great eye candy. She was cute but not a knockout.
I asked her how long she'd been working (a month) where she was from (Osaka) if she liked the job (ha ha), if there was anything fun about it (the talking part was fun) and then she put the condom on with her mouth and blew me for a minute. Conversation abruptly ceased. (So much for her fun part.)
We swapped positions and I fingered her. She hadn't applied any lubricant, and wasn't so wet, but I wanted to try to prep her for the main event. The clock kept ticking so I just entered her and let her sit in my lap for a bit, me sitting up and hugging her and rubbing her little titties against my chest.
Hard to tell how she felt--she was quite business-like about it all. But I do usually want to at least make the effort to please the girl. Yes, I'm naive.
We kept it up and she bounced up and down on me for a while, me holding the back of her ass. Then I lay her down and fucked her missionary. She was okay with "back-u" so she rolled over and "presented" rearward, and we went doggy style. She had great thighs and a nice ass, and that, as they say, was that.
The Tobita girls are very good about taking care of you once you pop, and she immediately took the condom off me and wiped me down. This is probably a practical measure on their part.
When I left the mama told me I should settle down and marry a nice Japanese girl. This struck me as very funny, but nice of her to say. She gave me three pieces of hard candy as a "saabisu." Again, very endearing.
This was not my best Tobita moment, but still enjoyable. I was out right under 15 minutes, which is shorter than I've ever stayed before.
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I've tried to make a very simple map of the Tobita area.
X is the Tennoji station side. Y is the Shin-Imamiya side. Z near Abeno subway station and W is unimportant.
I've found that I get the most invitations in the section marked B and the least in A. Does anyone else find this to be the case?
C does not have many houses (there are buildings and vacant lots there. D has a few houses but older women. H is the elevated highway. F is residential and has no prostitution.
It is my hope that if we can determine the area that has the greatest success rate for international mongers that it will help us and possibly make it less humiliating and painful to visit Tobita. There is nothing quite like a walk in this area to make a person feel worthless. Especially when you consider that the bearded homeless man under the highway would be accepted by the most beautiful girl if he had the money, simply because he is Japanese. While you would be rejected because you are not.
If you walk from Tennoji station X to Z and then to P it is much cleaner and nicer than walking through the shopping street. Or from Z to P if you take subway ( Tanimachi T28)
I'd be very interested to read where most mongers have had the most success. I walked through A first and was so depressed by the expressions of disgust on all the faces of those beautiful girls that I raced through B despite the invitations. I left with my money and thoroughly defeated. When I try again I'll start with section B.
Y........................................x
........... H.......a...................
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............. H .............c...........
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W ..........p............................ Z
The massage palour located near Wendy's in Namba has closed down and moved.
If you walk to the Takashimaya department store and stand in from of it you'll be able to see an elevated highway. Cross the street so you are under the highway and cross the street again (staying under the highway) and walk about 40 meters (the elevated highway is across the street on your right. There is a convenience store with a red sign (Daily Yamazaki) on the left then a business school. Turn down the first street on the left and (right around the corner-a few steps) you'll see the little princess in the ball cap on the left. It is located in the basement and I think there is a yellow sign there.
It would be interesting to know what people pay in this shop and what they get.
All I've ever gotten was an ok handjob by the old woman and her assistant (it was too dark to tell much) The handjob was ok she let a little semen ooze out before she mopped it up. There is nothing quite like having a handtowel pressed down on the top of your apparatus while the urge to cum is building. It takes most of the pleasure out of it!
I moved all but 8,000 yen from my wallet and paid my 5,000. uturally she wanted more once I was squished into the booth. She'll happily relieve you of all you have and give you a handjob no matter how much money you give her. This is my opinion.
In the evening there is a man occupying her position as tout and he has never acknowledged my existece.
The only other place I know of in Namba that will hail foreigners in located on the street behind the Kenucky Fried Chicken. If you walk along it a tall man with glasses and a slight resemblance to Lurch (The Adams Family character) will grunt at you. I haven't tried to sample his wares yet.
A good question, since few of us are able/willing to pay 44,000 for an hour (Sudsy aside) but happy to pay Tobita rates.
However the answer is fairly simple and related to how much money is in a guy's pocket and how horny he is.
Often guys just want to get off, and it is here a 3,000-5,000 BJ or a 10,000 Tobita lay is sufficient. This is especially true if you are about to go out on the town and want to take the edge off before a night of Nampa.
Other times, taking it easy and paying a beautiful DH gal 25-30,000 for a couple hours of romance is more desirable.
That is a good question, and my answer may be different from others.
I don't have the time windows of a couple of hours for DH. If I did, I'd probably make an arrangement.
Tobita is also relatively easy. Walk in, walk out, job done. Also there is no possibility of not getting who you want. She's right there, and if you aren't into her you just keep walking.
If you know a DH service you can recommend in Osaka, I'm keen to hear about it.
Teddy Johnwa
01-05-07, 16:21
... I just noticed that Asianmystique now offers two girls in Osaka, Reika and Anya.
Has anybody used these providers in Osaka...?
I used asianmystique in Tokyo several times and I was pretty satisfied with Aki, Maho and Maria. I wonder if the service is of the same quality from these "Osaka Girls", especially Anya that looks pretty much european, probably east europe, to me.
TJ
Stickmanfob
01-12-07, 12:19
First time to Osaka from Tokyo on a business trip. Other than AM any recommendations of places close by? Is tobita far away from the hotel or within walking distance? I appreciate any help that the members in Osaka can provide.
If you take the midosuji subway to Tennoji you'll be very near Tobita.
The Midosuji subway is the red line on the maps.
At Tennoji station it might be easiest to exit the subwayin the Kntetsu Department store. Walk up to the 2nd floor and go outside on the pedestrian bridge. As you exit the dept store you'll see the JR station right across from you. Turn left and the Kntetsu Department store will be on you left and the station on your right.
Walk straight over the street and down the stairs and toward Osaka City Hospital. You'll pass a few buildings on your left (Apollo building ,Lucius) and then you'll get to the hospital. Turn in and walk behind the hospital always heading downhill. You'll see the start of a shopping street on your right and a housing complex on your left. Just past the shopping street are some stairs and once you go down them you will be in Tobita.
So it you stand between the dept store and the station the dept store is 9:00 - station is 3:00- you start walking towards 12:00 , but your general direction is 11:00
So turn in the road between the hospital buildings and go up the small hill - the road goes down and curves to the right-you see the shopping street and down the stairs into Tobita.
Stickmanfob
01-15-07, 00:42
Thank you. I get to Osaka by this afternoon and wanted to make sure that I get a chance to see Tobita. I don't have an Osaka subway map with me and my computer is screwed up right now that I can't see PDF files. Anyways, I am assuming it isn't too far. Is there any other action near my hotel that you may be aware of? I wish I could give such clear, concise directions for you if you were in Tokyo but I just got there too. If you need to know anything about Seoul, I can help you there.
If you take the midosuji subway to Tennoji you'll be very near Tobita.
The Midosuji subway is the red line on the maps.
At Tennoji station it might be easiest to exit the subwayin the Kntetsu Department store. Walk up to the 2nd floor and go outside on the pedestrian bridge. As you exit the dept store you'll see the JR station right across from you. Turn left and the Kntetsu Department store will be on you left and the station on your right.
Walk straight over the street and down the stairs and toward Osaka City Hospital. You'll pass a few buildings on your left (Apollo building ,Lucius) and then you'll get to the hospital. Turn in and walk behind the hospital always heading downhill. You'll see the start of a shopping street on your right and a housing complex on your left. Just past the shopping street are some stairs and once you go down them you will be in Tobita.
So it you stand between the dept store and the station the dept store is 9:00 - station is 3:00- you start walking towards 12:00 , but your general direction is 11:00
So turn in the road between the hospital buildings and go up the small hill - the road goes down and curves to the right-you see the shopping street and down the stairs into Tobita.
If you ask for a tourist map at your hotel.
Your hotel should be near Yodoyobashi station which is on the Midosuji line.
Ask them for a map and ask for Osaka city hospital. You won't be giving anything away, so have no fear.
Map http://www.21orover.com/japan/nws/Tobita/
or THE Nationwide SUKEBE JAPAN
I think it is best to get there from Tennoji because it is really easy to ask directions for and to find.
It is also a much nicer and possibly safer way to get to Tobita.
The map at Nationwide SUKEBE is good and you can see the hospital right next to the (to Tennoji) written on the map.
Asian Travels
01-16-07, 02:44
Thank you. I get to Osaka by this afternoon and wanted to make sure that I get a chance to see Tobita. I don't have an Osaka subway map with me and my computer is screwed up right now that I can't see PDF files. Anyways, I am assuming it isn't too far. Is there any other action near my hotel that you may be aware of? I wish I could give such clear, concise directions for you if you were in Tokyo but I just got there too. If you need to know anything about Seoul, I can help you there.
I may take you up on your offer of info for Seoul next month, if my planned trip takes place.
As for Osaka, Tobita is the best place for guaranteed FS with J-gals.
There are some Chinese este that are OK, and Club Coco (in Namba) has foreigner friendly gals sometimes.
http://www.club-coco.com/
You'll be turned away from 95% of the places you try to enter, but this guy will never be refused.
https://ec.sod.co.jp/ec/shop2/f_main.jsp
Looking for a Gaijin friendly Soapland. Thanks!
Looking for a Gaijin friendly Soapland. Thanks!
I haven't much luck in Kansai, but then again I have never attempted to find the Osaka Soaps.
I suggest going in the afternoon when business is slow and there is less chance you will scare off any Japanese customers.
I did find one (and only one) in Kobe's district. They said no at first, but then I said my friend had been there and then said OK, but I needed to pay an extra 5,000, making the price 20,000/60minutes. I think that was an all-inclusive price, but I am not 100% sure. According to Sudsy (on the Tokyo board), he pays the entrance plus three or four times that for the girl. In any case, I didn't like the gaijin tax, so I declined.
http://jl-club.jp/home/index.html
Best of luck. Be sure to report back successes (and failures as well).
I seem to recall someone telling me not so long ago that soaplands are now outlawed in Osaka city. If someone knows otherwise, please post so.
I did a quick check and it looks like this is right. No soaps listed on Fu-Town.
Here are some in the Kansai area, not too far away-good luck:
http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/a/f06/f06_0206.htm
http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/a/f06/f06_0406.htm
http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/a/f06/f06_0606.htm
Has anyone done any mongering near Hankyu Nishinakajima station?
On the Umeda track there are a few interesting businesses.
There used to be a CoCos there, but it is gone also.
Isn't there a soapland near the Tower Records in Shinsaibashi?
The last time I posted a link it was a tremendous failure.
I found this site in the Kansai Flea Market this site claims to be able to be able to teach-Learn The Unspoken Secrets To Attract Any Girl In Japan
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http://************.com/
It is still under construction and may never get going, but it might provide a few laughs or (gasp) useful information.
Maybe I should have said in American-mura. There is a Tower Records there (it might have closed, but the building and sign are there).
If you go to Sports Takahashi it has a river on one side and a street on the other. Cross that street and turn down the next. Then walk down to the end of it. You might see a soapland in a white building on the left.
That's the place!
Why not put your fabulous brain to work for some of the readers of this forum!
Where are some foreigner friendly establishments in Osaka? You know what I mean by "establishments",right (wink-wink nudge-nudge)
Are there any near Nishinakajima-minamikata (Hankyu) station?
How about around Hanshin Amagasaki station?
Hmmmmm, that's enough work for now. You seem to know a great deal and should put that knowledge to work for the good of this little community.
Any one else with information on those areas?
There still are quite a few pink places in that area, though most are not foreigner friendly. The exceptions are the re-located Cocos and some Chinese este offering FS (both are hotel DH rather than on premises).
A puzzle for the curious in Osaka-follow the green line to the dog in Stephan King's movie and peramblulate near the shopping street.
Slippery Slide
01-28-07, 15:18
Hi everyone,
I was just wondering if anyone could give me any pointers as to where the Dotonbori Coco's has moved to. I saw a map on their website, but still couldn't see any signs when I got there.
Hi everyone,
I was just wondering if anyone could give me any pointers as to where the Dotonbori Coco's has moved to. I saw a map on their website, but still couldn't see any signs when I got there.
Follow the instructions I gave at the end of this post:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=518952&highlight=coco#post518952
Ah, I think I know where you mean. It's a few blocks south of amemura's triangle park. It's dotobori area, where the canal is and lots of love hotels, yeah? I think the place you're thinking of is a sauna called 'New Osaka'. Has a great sign on the building that says 'say farewell to wealth and Hello to health'. Is that the one? I've also heard that there used to be a soapy there, but that it disappeared with the rest of them.Just to clear this up, so noboby gets red faced.
The place mentioned above is the NEW Japan sauna. You can get a massage that you can tell your mother about there. Their giant sign says "say farewell to......."
There are two shops called Minami mat health in Shinsaibashi Lupin the 1st and Lupin the 2nd. Follow the directions in my other post on the subject.
There is also another place called Club Rich which also offers mat play.
If you are asian and speak Japanese give it a try.
I know these are there because I went there and looked today.
Take the chuo-line (green line) to Kujo. When you get to the station take exit 6. Make sure that you are exiting on the Osaka-dome side. At the bottom of stairs the shopping street will be on your left and the road on your right. Turn and put the road on your left and the shopping street on your left. Now walk towards the large orange hotel sign. Then turn right and start looking for those white signs you see in Tobita. This area is the same, but smaller.
Hope that some people will post reports and share information.
Stickmanfob
01-31-07, 14:23
Walked around tonight and a ton of places that looked like hostess bars? Is there anything for those who can't speak Japanese in this area? I saw one or two massage places but didn't look like it was even rub and tug.
Hopefully this map will help you find the Kujo-brothel area. You want to head for the area between the 4 and the 12.
http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&z=18&ll=34.675628,135.475325&spn=0.002069,0.002789&om=1
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&om=1&z=18&ll=34.725482,135.498805&spn=0.002068,0.002789
This is Nishinakajimaminamikata station. It is two stops from Umeda on the Midosuji line. You can see a Lawson on the left and an H on the right. Walk towards the H. On the small street that says SANKI there are several massage parlors. There are also some in the area marked 14. There are also many hostess clubs, so beware of entrapment late at night.
This is Hanshin Amagasaki station. If you walk to the D (Daily Store) and walk west (using the map arrows as a convenient compass) you'll find a sex shop area. You might have to walk about as far as the Kentury Fried Chicken (but don't turn south that street. Once you locate the sex shop area you'll want to go 1 block north and then walk back towards the Daily store. So D -- to the same street as the KFC---then north 1 block and back.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=34.719904,135.416408&spn=0.004136,0.005579&om=1
This is the area around Juso station. The space betweem the McDonalds and the Mos Burger/Family Mart is full of exciting shops. Don't cross the street to the Mos Burger there is nothing on that side of the road.
There are a few shops on the Kentucky Fried Chicken side of the station. At the KFC or Mr Donut turn north (using the map key as a compass and walk up the shopping street there are a few shops towards the end. So you want to walk from the KFC towards the Lawson. But use the shopping street next to the tracks. And don't go to the Lawson there is nothing there. It is just a landmark for direction purposes.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&om=1&z=17&ll=34.719948,135.48268&spn=0.004136,0.005579
Use the map key as a compass the directions are not actual.
This is Umeda. Move the map west and you'll see the stations and you'll have a good idea how to get there.
You'll notice a pink area on the road, this is the Whity Umeda underground shopping mall.
Look for the Sunkus and you'll see some very small pink bars which are the exits from the underground mall. To the north of the Sunkus there are two more exits. The exits facing south and both sides of the road are a hang out for street walkers. The exits facing SOUTH on both sides. Sometimes you can see a woman sitting or standing on the steps. Sometimes they are there and sometimes they aren't. THIS ISN'T FOR NOVICES. There are lots of securty cameras, security guards, pimps, strange men and men seeking the prostitutes. I wouldn't fool around here. If you speak Japanese and know what to look for you can find something, if you are lucky. If you don't speak Japanese, are drunk then stay away. You can find a lot of trouble if you screw up.
Look at the map again and you can see an M (Mos Burger, it is gone and there is a Sunkus there now), A D (Daily store a Family Mart. This is an area full of various sex entertainment shops. Near the H you can almost always find a pimp for some non-Japanese.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=34.701423,135.503247&spn=0.004137,0.005579&om=1
This is another spot in Umeda.
Across the street from the 7-11 you can see a 17. Head for that and then walk south to the raod with the < arrows. walk up that and you'll find a group of massage shops on the RIGHT.
The left side of the road has some cafes and shops that cater to Osaka's homosexual population. There is also a gay bar near here. This side isn't as busy the one mentioned above and might be worth a look.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=34.701423,135.503247&spn=0.004137,0.005579&om=1
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Wow, the Osaka section is limp these days.
Recently enjoyed a girl named Megumi, who actually is endowed like and somewhat resembles the J-talent by the same name. Thus the moniker, I guess. Short blondish hair. Was gracious enough to let me fuck her but not incredibly into it (I applaud her all the same for what must be a tiresome job). Great (real) breasts. Probably an F cup (Japanese size). She said she works almost every day, which was surprising to me for some reason. The one thing I noted was when she was standing on her knees and I was fingering her and sucking her titties, she seemed to want to get right to the act. Maybe to get me done asap. Anyway as soon as I realized this I got down to business. Quick cleanup and bob's your uncle. The mama asked me to come back any time.
The next time I did return, I passed by the same stall which had the same girl, but a different mama who didn’t ask me in. No big deal as I was looking for someone new (why I go to begin with). Megumi was in a sailor suit staring at her fingernails. Before I think she had been in a high school skirt, but a different style. She had said she was 22 or so but so do they all. What I mean is this was not a high school girl.
So I bypassed Megumi and made one round of two of the long alleys. This was a weekend day bout 1 pm. Most of the shops were closed. There was one really well built girl with blond hair at the end but she was done up like a gyaru with the tons o makeup. I was planning to go back to her bc she had major cleavage but in my next round I saw a cute girl in a short black dress and those knee stockings I can’t get enough of.
Her name was Seira and she was in one of the corner stalls. When the mama asked if I was okay the girl looked at me and said "Gommu dake" (only with a condom) and I of course muttered "Hai. " After that, however, she was really chatty (in Japanese) and friendly. The thing is I turned around to go back to Seira: I had passed her when the mama laughed. Acutally the mama had not laughed bc I was not acceptable, was just amused.
Seira was very petite but her legs were long. She talked to me the whole time she was taking off her clothes and putting on the condom and right up until the CBJ. Tiny but tight breasts. After I was "readied" she put some lotion right on the condom and said "Hai! " which meant, I understood, time to get crackin.
She had a very pretty face and I asked if I could kiss her, and she agreed. I don’t somuch care about GFE but if you could have one in the course of 20 minutes, this would have been it. She even seemed to enjoy the sex and said encouraging "kimochi"s during the act.
I finished doing from behind, and she cleaned me right up and after a little longer chatting and re-dressing the little alarm clock buzzed. She kept talking for a few minutes until I felt I should say "It’s time to go, right? " She, again, said come back any time.
Each of these were the 16, 000 for 20 minute "course. " The card usually has the 1 hr. Or 90 min. Option for considerably more, but only until 5 p. M. I think. I have wondered how the longer course varies from the straight in and out. Anyone know? Also, how do Tobita shops get away with FS in the face the Japanese laws?
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Sukebe Oyaji
04-20-07, 03:44
Hey guys,
I think this is my first time posting here, but I've used the information I got lurking here to have, what I would have to say, is the best mongering experience I've ever had in Japan.
Generally, I've always felt that mongering in Japan is like box of chocolates. Where wasabi is a common flavor. Tobita is quite different, and I would have to say, the best system for the customer ever invented. If only more places would to this.
First of all, the instructions given on this forum by Romannose were spot on. If I can attempt to help even further:
http://www.mapmyrun.com/run/japan/osaka/344229577
It was a Thursday night, around 8:30pm, and almost all the shutters were open. I speak fluent Japanese, so I anticipated few problems.
Anyway, I went down the street to take a look at all the girls and also see where I was beckoned. The first mama-san I passed made a crack at me in Japanese after I passed. Not a good sign, but I kept on going. Much better to ignore it and act well in front of the other mama-sans. The place itself was fascinating; never seen anything like it anywhere in Japan. Much like everyone said: it's just like an old red light district. The girls all sit in thier stalls (houses) with a mama-san out front who brings the patrons in by calling to them. Each one has a mirror so they can see when a customer approaches (since the places are narrow, you could walk by them fairly quickly without giving them a chance otherwise).
The girls as a whole were good. There were one or two 9s, a lot of 8s, mostly 7s, and a few 6s and 5s. Nothing lower than that, though (adjust these numbers for yellow fever).
I got called on at approximately 50% of the places I passed. After keeping a mental note of all the girls as I passed, I went back down, and stopped in at my first choice. Unfortunately, I was refused here by the mama-san. Even after it became apperant I spoke Japanese well, she still refused (politely). I politely backed out, and went down two stalls to my second choice. I walked right up to them and they both seemed overjoyed to have me in.
The girl, around 25 or so, called herself Ai (a common name for this work). She was wearing a cute white teddy. She was about a be cup, but was slight, had clear skin, and had a cute personality (something that some of us who have lived here for a while appreciate). She was very professional, but in a way that you almost couldn't detect.
It was a small tatami room, with a futon and two tables; one for business, and one decorated with stuffed animals (a nice touch. Aside from it's sparseness, it seemed very much like a girl's room. Perhaps it is). We talked a little bit and she gave me tea. We then got down to the price: 11, 000yen for 15 minutes, or 16, 000 for 20 minutes (pretty much what everyone's said about Tobita thus far).
She then went off to prepare. I waited until she came back, and then waited for her to begin to undress. Once this happened, I got onto the futon, and she went to work. She started with a BBBJ to start off, and since it's been a long time for me, I almost went right there, but had to stop her. FS is what I came for, after all. She then the mouth-applied condom method.
Not sure of exactly how long 15 minutes was, and since I really wanted to get started, we just went at it missionary. She was reasonably enthusiastic, but to be honest, I was really beyond the point of caring. She was reasonably small (maybe 150cm), and really tight, which led to some problems.
She mentioned that the type of condom she had used possibly wasn't the best. It had a tendancy to dry out. This combined with the tightness I mentioned earlier and the fact that I really didn't do much foreplay probably didn' help matters. This is where the professionalism I mentioned earlier came in. I realized afterward that she probably was uncomfortable for at least part of it, but still went with it. I felt kinda bad (true, I went there to get what I wanted, but I honestly like women, and don't want them to be uncomfortable).
She did a great job of cleaning me up afterward, and then came by and we had a snack together. We still had a minute or two left (they used a bell that rings when the time is up), and I spent some time flirting with her.
On the way out, there was another girl who ran and hid herself around a corner when she saw me come out of the room. I wondered idly if they did 3p.
Anyway, the mama-san and Ai gave me a good sayonara, and I walked out. I kept getting asked in on my way out of the area and wondered if there was a better way to exit to avoid that problem.
Anyway, it was great. I think I'll go back and get another girl tonight as well.
Thank you to everyone on the forum who's information made this possible!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Sukebe Oyaji
04-20-07, 04:25
Hey guys,
I think this is my first time posting here, but I've used the information I got lurking here to have, what I would have to say, is the best mongering experience I've ever had in Japan.
Generally, I've always felt that mongering in Japan is like box of chocolates. Where wasabi is a common flavor. Tobita is quite different, and I would have to say, the best system for the customer ever invented. If only more places would to this.
First of all, the instructions given on this forum by Romannose were spot on. If I can attempt to help even further:
http://www.mapmyrun.com/run/japan/osaka/344229577
It was a Thursday night, around 8:30pm, and almost all the shutters were open. I speak fluent Japanese, so I anticipated few problems.
Anyway, I went down the street to take a look at all the girls and also see where I was beckoned. The first mama-san I passed made a crack at me in Japanese after I passed. Not a good sign, but I kept on going. Much better to ignore it and act well in front of the other mama-sans. The place itself was fascinating; never seen anything like it anywhere in Japan. Much like everyone said: it's just like an old red light district. The girls all sit in thier stalls (houses) with a mama-san out front who brings the patrons in by calling to them. Each one has a mirror so they can see when a customer approaches (since the places are narrow, you could walk by them fairly quickly without giving them a chance otherwise).
The girls as a whole were good. There were one or two 9s, a lot of 8s, mostly 7s, and a few 6s and 5s. Nothing lower than that, though (adjust these numbers for yellow fever).
I got called on at approximately 50% of the places I passed. After keeping a mental note of all the girls as I passed, I went back down, and stopped in at my first choice. Unfortunately, I was refused here by the mama-san. Even after it became apperant I spoke Japanese well, she still refused (politely). I politely backed out, and went down two stalls to my second choice. I walked right up to them and they both seemed overjoyed to have me in.
The girl, around 25 or so, called herself Ai (a common name for this work). She was wearing a cute white teddy. She was about a be cup, but was slight, had clear skin, and had a cute personality (something that some of us who have lived here for a while appreciate). She was very professional, but in a way that you almost couldn't detect.
It was a small tatami room, with a futon and two tables; one for business, and one decorated with stuffed animals (a nice touch. Aside from it's sparseness, it seemed very much like a girl's room. Perhaps it is). We talked a little bit and she gave me tea. We then got down to the price: 11, 000yen for 15 minutes, or 16, 000 for 20 minutes (pretty much what everyone's said about Tobita thus far).
She then went off to prepare. I waited until she came back, and then waited for her to begin to undress. Once this happened, I got onto the futon, and she went to work. She started with a BBBJ to start off, and since it's been a long time for me, I almost went right there, but had to stop her. FS is what I came for, after all. She then the mouth-applied condom method.
Not sure of exactly how long 15 minutes was, and since I really wanted to get started, we just went at it missionary. She was reasonably enthusiastic, but to be honest, I was really beyond the point of caring. She was reasonably small (maybe 150cm), and really tight, which led to some problems.
She mentioned that the type of condom she had used possibly wasn't the best. It had a tendancy to dry out. This combined with the tightness I mentioned earlier and the fact that I really didn't do much foreplay probably didn' help matters. This is where the professionalism I mentioned earlier came in. I realized afterward that she probably was uncomfortable for at least part of it, but still went with it. I felt kinda bad (true, I went there to get what I wanted, but I honestly like women, and don't want them to be uncomfortable).
She did a great job of cleaning me up afterward, and then came by and we had a snack together. We still had a minute or two left (they used a bell that rings when the time is up), and I spent some time flirting with her.
On the way out, there was another girl who ran and hid herself around a corner when she saw me come out of the room. I wondered idly if they did 3p.
Anyway, the mama-san and Ai gave me a good sayonara, and I walked out. I kept getting asked in on my way out of the area and wondered if there was a better way to exit to avoid that problem.
Anyway, it was great. I think I'll go back and get another girl tonight as well.
Thank you to everyone on the forum who's information made this possible!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I have done a lot of internet research for hotel health (hoteru herusu or in short hoteheru) in Osaka. The result was a print-out of several pages with names, prices, office hours, maps and discount coupons. I knew most of them might be off-limits for foreigners but at least one, Club Coco in Namba, had been described as gaijin-friendly on this board.
On a Saturday morning I started my tour in Umeda. From JR Osaka Stn. I followed the directions for Hanshin Railway Umeda Stn. and continued my way eastward through the Whity underground shopping mall to exit M14. The red light district is located to the south-east of this exit.
My first try was Freajia, a hoteheru with married women (hitoduma) and very low prices. See its homepage http://www.osaka-093.com/fa/pc/main/main.html for directions and rates and http://kansai.bigdesire.co.jp/shop.php?shop=163 for a discount coupon. The coupon gives you a 60 min course for as less as 7,900 Yen; even inclusive the hotel room charge.
Using the map from the homepage I found the place (Diamond Building) easily. Freajia is located on the fourth floor. In the same building there is another hoteheru, Umeda Dress (http://www.d-ress.net/top.html) on B1F. I don't know whether this place admits foreigners.
I entered Freajia and asked my standard question: "Gaikokujin demo ii desu ka?" The staffer hesitated a bit, let me confirm that I speak Japanese and went to the adjacent room, apparently to ask the girls. Their answer must have been in the affirmative, because he admitted me then. I was really surprised that my first try turned out to be a hit.
Next he showed me the menu. I read about a 60 min special for only 7,900 Yen, far below the rates on the homepage. In other words, I did not need the discount coupon at all. I agreed to pay 1,000 Yen more for a choice of the girl from a picture list. Maybe I could have saved this option because I was advised then that only one girl was available right away. She looked nice on the pic, so I took her. In reality, she was a bit chubbier than the pic suggested, though.
She took me to a nearby love hotel, a no-frills one. The room was very small. My girl, maybe in her lower 30s, asked me to sit down on the bed. She prepared the bath tub and filled it with water. Until the tub was ready there was time for a small talk. I was her first Western foreigner so far, she had had only experiences with Indian and Chinese guys at the place where she had worked before. At Freajia she had not met a foreigner yet. She said that she was a bit embaressed ("hazukashii") about her first encounter with a Caucasian.
When the bath was ready we undressed and went to the bath room. She washed me and had me soak in the bath tub for a few minutes. Then she dried me off and we returned to the bed. The session on the bed was rather short as there wasn't that much time left: some sensual massage, a BBBJ and a final HJ (I am not complaining at all though, considering the low price I payed). No DFK which is mentioned on the homepage as part of the service; no FS. A quick shower, a short soak in the tub, and that was it. Time over, she had to hurry back to her office.
After all it was a decent experience with a nice woman and very very inexpensive.
In the evening of the same day, I went to Club Coco in Namba on Dotonbori (http://www.club-coco.com). It took me quite a while to find the place. Finally I realised it is located in the less frequented part of Dotonbori, west of Midosuji-dori. I was easily admitted and payed 16,000 Yen for 60 min. and 2,300 Yen for the love hotel room. I refrained to pay another 2,000 Yen for a choice of the girl and let the staffer choose (omakase). No regret, my girl Rio was young (25), nice, and pretty. She said I was her first gaijin. We walked westward to a fancy love hotel. The room was spacious and luxurious. We undressed and she washed me under the shower. She didn't fill the bathtub and saved a lot of time this way. On the bed she caressed and licked my body, performed BBBJ, let me fondle her pussy. After about 30 minutes the final HJ. Alas, no DFK. Of course no FS. Another shower and 60 min. were over. After all a very good experience, a bit pricey, but worth it.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
What's the value of this without any directions? Can't you write how to get there? For example-walk past the ujf bank and turn right it's across from a book store with a yellow sign.
In the evening of the same day, I went to Club Coco in Namba on Dotonbori (http://www.club-coco.com). It took me quite a while to find the place. Finally I realised it is located in the less frequented part of Dotonbori, west of Midosuji-dori. I was easily admitted and payed 16,000 Yen for 60 min. and 2,300 Yen for the love hotel room. I refrained to pay another 2,000 Yen for a choice of the girl and let the staffer choose (omakase). No regret, my girl Rio was young (25), nice, and pretty. She said I was her first gaijin. We walked westward to a fancy love hotel. The room was spacious and luxurious. We undressed and she washed me under the shower. She didn't fill the bathtub and saved a lot of time this way. On the bed she caressed and licked my body, performed BBBJ, let me fondle her pussy. After about 30 minutes the final HJ. Alas, no DFK. Of course no FS. Another shower and 60 min. were over. After all a very good experience, a bit pricey, but worth it.
Sukebe Oyaji
04-21-07, 16:27
Okay, I went back to Tobita once more before I left Osaka (the previous night was great, and I craved more).
This time it was a Friday night, and there were many more people on the street. One thing I noticed because of this was that the mama-sans were more picky - my call-out rate went down to about 30% from 50% the previous night. I walked around for quite a while this time, and discovered all the side streets that also had stalls.
Once again, my first choice was rejected, and I accepted it politely. I walked next door, and saw a new girl (pretty sure at this point that some of the places which have two rooms do a rotation - one girl is shown until she's sold, they go up, and then the other comes out to be shown. Anyway, I hadn't seen this girl the first time, and I was called in, and was sold immediately.
Mako was the name she went by, and she was wearing rather trendy clothes with a short jean skirt. The thing that struck me about her, though, is the look in her eyes that she was actually glad to see me (different than a typical Japanese "I'm here to serve you" style). This is where the suprise came in - she was siting down in a presentation pose when I came in, but then after I had agreed to go inside, she stood up. She was only 148cm tall (I asked later). Still, her perportions were really good, so I really couldn't complain.
We went upstairs and spoke for quite a while and talked for far longer than the mama-san wanted, I'm sure. We decided on the price (15 minutes again - I'm a frugal bastard), and then she went to get ready.
Since I had done everything quickly the last time, I took my time on this one. We talked some more, and I touched her all over, and held her perfectly formed breasts (only a B-Cup, but DAMN were they perfect, perky, and had beautiful nipples).
She started off with the cowgirl, sideways, and then finished everything off. Through the whole thing, it was very fun to "juggle" her, as her size and weight made her quite... um, easily movable.
Throughout the whole thing, we talked a a lot, and she was the sweetest little thing. Had I not been paying her for the experience, I might have been taken by her - a true GFE to say the least. She was "politely" reminded by the mama-san that we were over time, and led me outside.
I thought the previous night was good, but this was far, far better.
Remember, everyone: be good in Tobita - it's truly a gem of a place IN ANY COUNTRY, and I will personally hunt down anyone who messes it up for us foreigners.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Irv Washington
04-21-07, 16:50
What's the value of this without any directions? Can't you write how to get there? For example-walk past the ujf bank and turn right it's across from a book store with a yellow sign.
Hello Romannose
I think the "value" of Hunter20's post is that it is a well-written post and gives a lot of useful information.
Your questions to Hunter20 are very direct and sound a little rude and impolite.
Did you mean to sound like this? I'm not sure why you would because Hunter20 has made some great posts recently on the Osaka, Kyoto and Tokyo threads, most of which have had "reports of distinction" recommendations from the board moderators. Many people will benefit if he becomes a regular on the Japan board.
As for your request (demand?) for directions, did you notice Hunter20 included Club Coco's website in his report? The website has a map. If you RTFF, you can find other posts on Club Coco which include written directions.
Hunter20, thanks for the useful reports you've submitted recently. I hope you'll keep posting and please don't be put off by any posts from other members which might be interpreted as rude.
Irv
Some great posts about Tobita below. I always thought it was out of bounds for gaijin, so I’ll have to check it out again. And I think it has the best looking lasses of any pro-area I’ve been to, so a trip down there has to be done.
Cheers for the heads up lads.
There is nothing in his reports that shows he, she or it had a pedestrians view of Osaka or Kyoto. I am not familiar with Tokyo, so I can't comment about that.
I think the reports are fake, false and fantasy.
Your questions to Hunter20 are very direct and sound a little rude and impolite.
Did you mean to sound like this? I'm not sure why you would because Hunter20 has made some great posts recently on the Osaka, Kyoto and Tokyo threads, most of which have had "reports of distinction" recommendations from the board moderators. Many people will benefit if he becomes a regular on the Japan board.
There is nothing in his reports that shows he, she or it had a pedestrians view of Osaka or Kyoto. I am not familiar with Tokyo, so I can't comment about that.
I think the reports are fake, false and fantasy.Well, Romannose, are you the kind of guy who shoots first and asks later? And please use the "quote" function of this board which makes it easier to understand your posts.
Irv Washington is absolutely right in his assumption. I didn't want to bore you with directions that you can easily find out when you look at the websites I mentioned in my post on hoteheru. But when you look at the maps of these (and other) websites I often find it difficult to get to the starting point as the names of railway stations and streets are written in Kanji. That's why I described how I made my way from JR Osaka to the exit M14. For the same reason I gave you some idea in which part of Doutonbori you can find Club Coco. If you combine my directions and the maps you will get there easily.
Thanks, Romannose, for giving me the idea that my post could be misunderstood (by at least one person). Next time I will state it more clearly when I refer to a certain webpage or map.
If you still think my reports are fake please don't go to the places I mentioned. I won't mind.
[...]if he becomes a regular on the Japan board.
[...]Hunter20, thanks for the useful reports you've submitted recently. I hope you'll keep posting and please don't be put off by any posts from other members which might be interpreted as rude.
IrvThanks, Irv, for your support. I really appreciate it. I won't be able to become a "regular" on this board as I don't live in Japan and only travel to Japan from time to time. But I will always share my experiences with the board community because I got a lot of information from the board members and would like to give something in return.
Take care,
Hunter
Roman, I'm not sure what your problem is, but Hunter's report rings true to me. If you need directions, asking politely might be more effective than agressively questioning the value of Hunter's report and the veracity of his words.
There is nothing in his reports that shows he, she or it had a pedestrians view of Osaka or Kyoto. I am not familiar with Tokyo, so I can't comment about that.
I think the reports are fake, false and fantasy.
Sudsy,
While you were sitting and pontificating, I went. There are no foreigners allowed.
Does that make any sense to you?
Sudsy,
While you were sitting and pontificating, I went. There are no foreigners allowed.
Does that make any sense to you?Romannose,
As you don't believe me let me quote some other board members:
[...]and Club Coco (in Namba) has foreigner friendly gals sometimes.
http://www.club-coco.com/
Coco's might say no if there are no willing girls, but sometimes they are interested in practicing English while they blow you.
As I had posted on the Kyoto board recently, I am looking for a gaijin-friendly sexy pub or sexy cabaret (sekukyaba). By web research I prepared a long list of places located in Nishinikajima, Juso and Umeda.
During my short weekend stay in Osaka I actually tried only one: Lip Airliner (http://www.b-hit.net/lip/pc/index.htm), located in Nishinikajima (Subway Midosuji line and Hankyu Kyoto line, see attached map), within walking distance of JR Shin-Osaka Stn. This shop interested me because there is an "worldwide sites" button on the bottom of the homepage (the "English" button on top doesn't work) which provides a computer translation (by www.excite.co.jp). I assumed that this webpage appealed to foreign customers. When I tried to get in on a Friday night around 9:30 p.m. I was nevertheless rejected: "I am very sorry, Japanese only." In Japanese I told the staffer of the automatic English translation of the homepage. But he repeated to be very sorry that I could not enter.
Do you know a gaijin-friendly sekukyaba in Kansai?
While Sudsy seems to lash out a posters with the regularity of his menstrual cycles, Irv and Hunter support each other and are most likely one and the same.
Give the places Hunter20 has reported on a try.
Why not try the Club Cocos in SakaiHigashi and don't forget to try Agega while you're at it. The Japanese are very friendly and you'll be welcome. Don't forget to say "Gaikokujin demo ii desu ka?" Why not call before you go, so they can prepare for you. After all it is important to be polite while here.
Do you know a gaijin-friendly sekukyaba in Kansai?
In Kyoto there is a popular place called DX Tohji that I went to a few years back. The amateur show seems to draw a bigger crowd despite the higher fee. I remember watching a girl have her first lesbian experience on stage...
You can dance and rub up against the gals for Y500. Also photos and private chat times for 1,000.
You can even join the girls onstage, with the possibility of having a soapland experience (she is nude, you were your boxers), but beware you may end up getting spanked if you lose the game.
They have an English site, so there should not be a problem getting in.
http://www.dx-tohji.co.jp/
PS Good reports of late...nice to know someone is getting some action in Kansai.
In Kyoto there is a popular place called DX Tohji ...Dear Lion,
As you know DX Tohji is a striptease theater offering some games and services in its amateur shows.
I went to DX Tohji this year when the so-called amateur conference was on stage. Some girls wore a mask all the time, maybe they are really amateurs. But there was a professional Japanese-American stripper (Hikari) as well and we could communicate in English.
The striptease on stage did not get me excited that much, perhaps I am getting older... But there was a lot of audience participation, for instance miniature golf on stage. The winner was teased as Lion said. In another game the winner could exercise cunnilingus and got 10 points from the girl, and 8 points for his breast rub.
From time to time some strippers went into the audience room and played jan-ken-pon (stone-scissors-paper) with the customers. If the customer won he was allowed to rub her boobs.
There was also a session of about 30 minutes when all strippers got into the audience and offered services, e.g. a topless lap dance with breast rub for 1,000 Yen, the same with DFK for 2,000 Yen, touching her pussy for 3,000 (?) Yen.
During the show some girls asked customers to follow her. If he agreed they went out of the audience room. I saw some of them sitting in the lobby taking a drink. I am not sure if there are other services, a "pink room" for instance as in some other striptease theaters.
In conclusion, DX Tohji is a striptease theater that provides sekukyaba services in its amateur shows. I always check its website before I go as I want to see the program and don't go to regular strip shows any more.
Best regards,
Hunter
P.S.: I guess I'd better put this report on the Kyoto board as well.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Irv Washington
04-25-07, 19:14
While Sudsy seems to lash out a posters with the regularity of his menstrual cycles, Irv and Hunter support each other and are most likely one and the same.
Give the places Hunter20 has reported on a try.
Why not try the Club Cocos in SakaiHigashi and don't forget to try Agega while you're at it. The Japanese are very friendly and you'll be welcome. Don't forget to say "Gaikokujin demo ii desu ka?" Why not call before you go, so they can prepare for you. After all it is important to be polite while here.
Hello Romannose
Bad day at the office? :(
For some reason, I decided to look at your recent posts. Why are so many of your posts recently so negative? :( And so impolite and aggressive.
Remember to use the Ignore List. If you don't like Hunter20 or anyone else add them to your ignore list and you'll never be bothered by their posts. In fact, why don't you add everyone to your ignore list? That way, you won't have to look at anyone else's posts - you can just read your posts.
Irving
About a month and a half ago I was in Osaka for business and used this form to find Tobita. I was very happy with my encounters there. I am an Italian-Canadian, with no Japanese and I had a great time with the girls in this district.
I went down there twice, around 9-10ish. Both times the place was hopping and I got "dozo" from about 50% of the shops (more in the crappy parts of the district, less in the better parts). There were also some shops where the mama-san wanted me to come but the girl was apprehensive, and some shops where the girl was excited to see me but the mama-san did not invite me. I had good luck by just waiting till I saw a girl who was very happy to see me, and then choosing her. (I also noticed one interesting thing about the reaction of some of the girls. Sometimes they had a very startled look, almost like a mixture of fear and excitement. I did not know how to interpret this at first, because when I was in Tokyo, some of the free-be girls I picked up also had this very startled look. So in Tokyo I took that as a good sign during street pick up. Anyway, eventually I decided that in Tobita it is not such a good thing as on the streets of Tokyo.)
On my last night in town, I wanted to go for a double header, because the Tobita girls can be quite pretty, and I feel like a kid in a candy shop when I walk around there. My first choice was a 20ish hottie. She had on a short little skirt, knee-high socks and long hair, lightened to a soft brown and in the loose curls so many j-girls like. She was very hot, 8.5-9 for face and beautiful little body. Smooth light skin, pirky little tits, big wide eyes, great hair and make-up like an idol girl.
Once I was in the room we settled on 160,000 for 25 min. Too short for me, but I was going for two tonight. She had me stand up and undressed me while on her knees. She squealed with delight when she pulled my hard cock out. She left the room for a minute to get ready and when she came back we started making out on the mat. I took off her top and her panties, but I had her keep her socks and her skirt on. I ate her pussy and then she put on a condom for CBJ. She got out a few different boxes and made sure I noticed that she was using the extra-large ones. She gave me a great CBJ with lots of eye contact, and then I slid into her snug little pussy. Mostly we did mish, but at one point I stood up and bounced her up and down on my cock... She thought this was very funny. Eventually the time ran out and she said something about finishing. So I fucked her hard and blew my load. When she was cleaning me up, she kept saying "great!" with a big smile and a little nod. She started putting on a cute little girlfriend act and told me she would be crying when I flew back the next day (tracing an invisible tear down her cheek with her finger).
All in all, a fun time with a hot little idol girl who knows how to please a man.
After that I scoped out the whole district and waited for my stamina to come back. The great thing about Tobita is there are so many hotties, you can get some wood just by walking the strips. After the blood was rushing again, I was having a hard time deciding and it was starting to get late.
Eventually I settled on a cute girl with nice big titties. She was happy to see me, but was not nearly as stylish as the first one. At first I thought I may have made an error of judgment based on her cleavage, but she turned out to have a tight, firm body, although quite curvy. She was 25-29, straight black hair, cute face, dark skin, but just a plane tight dress and white thong.
After we settled on 160,000 for 25 min, she got straight down to business. I had to ask her to keep her thong on for a bit. (I prefer to do the undressing.) We made out for a bit and then she pointed to a western style sofa seat in the room and she told me to sit on that. She sat on my lap and kissed me for a minute before pulling out my cock and getting down on her knees for some great BBBJ. The whole session she kept saying, "I like big sex."
I then laid her on her back and ate her pussy for a few minutes. I was so horny at this point, I wasn't thinking very straight and I just slid myself into her tight little kitty for BBFS. She got very excited about this and we had a great fuck. When the timer ran out, I asked her where she wanted me to come and she said, "In mouth." I stood up and she dutifully drained my load on her knees.
She didn't put on as much of an act as the first girl, but then the service was a bit better -- well each was great in its own way.
Now a question for the crew:
I've heard there is another large red-light district in Osaka called Matsushima Shinchi in Nishi ward. Does anyone know this place? I will be moving to Osaka in a few months, so I would appreciate some info about it.
About a month and a half ago I was in Osaka for business and used this form to find Tobita. I was very happy with my encounters there. I am an Italian-Canadian, with no Japanese and I had a great time with the girls in this district.
I went down there twice, around 9-10ish. Both times the place was hopping and I got "dozo" from about 50% of the shops (more in the crappy parts of the district, less in the better parts). There were also some shops where the mama-san wanted me to come but the girl was apprehensive, and some shops where the girl was excited to see me but the mama-san did not invite me. I had good luck by just waiting till I saw a girl who was very happy to see me, and then choosing her. (I also noticed one interesting thing about the reaction of some of the girls. Sometimes they had a very startled look, almost like a mixture of fear and excitement. I did not know how to interpret this at first, because when I was in Tokyo, some of the free-be girls I picked up also had this very startled look. So in Tokyo I took that as a good sign during street pick up. Anyway, eventually I decided that in Tobita it is not such a good thing as on the streets of Tokyo.)
On my last night in town, I wanted to go for a double header, because the Tobita girls can be quite pretty, and I feel like a kid in a candy shop when I walk around there. My first choice was a 20ish hottie. She had on a short little skirt, knee-high socks and long hair, lightened to a soft brown and in the loose curls so many j-girls like. She was very hot, 8.5-9 for face and beautiful little body. Smooth light skin, pirky little tits, big wide eyes, great hair and make-up like an idol girl.
Once I was in the room we settled on 160,000 for 25 min. Too short for me, but I was going for two tonight. She had me stand up and undressed me while on her knees. She squealed with delight when she pulled my hard cock out. She left the room for a minute to get ready and when she came back we started making out on the mat. I took off her top and her panties, but I had her keep her socks and her skirt on. I ate her pussy and then she put on a condom for CBJ. She got out a few different boxes and made sure I noticed that she was using the extra-large ones. She gave me a great CBJ with lots of eye contact, and then I slid into her snug little pussy. Mostly we did mish, but at one point I stood up and bounced her up and down on my cock... She thought this was very funny. Eventually the time ran out and she said something about finishing. So I fucked her hard and blew my load. When she was cleaning me up, she kept saying "great!" with a big smile and a little nod. She started putting on a cute little girlfriend act and told me she would be crying when I flew back the next day (tracing an invisible tear down her cheek with her finger).
All in all, a fun time with a hot little idol girl who knows how to please a man.
After that I scoped out the whole district and waited for my stamina to come back. The great thing about Tobita is there are so many hotties, you can get some wood just by walking the strips. After the blood was rushing again, I was having a hard time deciding and it was starting to get late.
Eventually I settled on a cute girl with nice big titties. She was happy to see me, but was not nearly as stylish as the first one. At first I thought I may have made an error of judgment based on her cleavage, but she turned out to have a tight, firm body, although quite curvy. She was 25-29, straight black hair, cute face, dark skin, but just a plane tight dress and white thong.
After we settled on 160,000 for 25 min, she got straight down to business. I had to ask her to keep her thong on for a bit. (I prefer to do the undressing.) We made out for a bit and then she pointed to a western style sofa seat in the room and she told me to sit on that. She sat on my lap and kissed me for a minute before pulling out my cock and getting down on her knees for some great BBBJ. The whole session she kept saying, "I like big sex."
I then laid her on her back and ate her pussy for a few minutes. I was so horny at this point, I wasn't thinking very straight and I just slid myself into her tight little kitty for BBFS. She got very excited about this and we had a great fuck. When the timer ran out, I asked her where she wanted me to come and she said, "In mouth." I stood up and she dutifully drained my load on her knees.
She didn't put on as much of an act as the first girl, but then the service was a bit better -- well each was great in its own way.
Now a question for the crew:
I've heard there is another large red-light district in Osaka called Matsushima Shinchi in Nishi ward. Does anyone know this place? I will be moving to Osaka in a few months, so I would appreciate some info about it.
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After we settled on 160,000 for 25 min, she got straight down to business.I think you mean 16,000 yen there, man. Unless the rates have gone way up. ;)
Interesting that you had a FS experience in Tobita. Also, that they undressed you. I guess it's different for everyone depending on the girl.
On a Saturday morning I started my tour in Umeda. From JR Osaka Stn. I followed the directions for Hanshin Railway Umeda Stn. and continued my way eastward through the Whity underground shopping mall to exit M14. The red light district is located to the south-east of this exit.
My first try was Freajia, a hoteheru with married women (hitoduma) and very low prices. See its homepage http://www.osaka-093.com/fa/pc/main/main.html for directions and rates and http://kansai.bigdesire.co.jp/shop.php?shop=163 for a discount coupon. The coupon gives you a 60 min course for as less as 7,900 Yen; even inclusive the hotel room charge. [/blue][/size]
I found Hunter's report intriguing and so I went in search of Frejia. His assistance getting there was just right. His instructions along with the map from Frejia's website led me there very well. The one thing I would suggest is tricky for those less familiar with Osaka is figuring out the labyrinthine underground malls. Pay careful attention to the fact that the exit is M14 - if you look on the maps displayed every once in a while once you are in Whity (yes, I know it is a very funny name) just look for the one marked M. It isn't very big, so once you find it, the exit is nearby. Take the south stairway, go two blocks, turn right, then take the third left. The Diamond Building is on your left. Not well marked, but I asked a tout and he knew right away. Another thing to note: Frejia is on the 4th floor, but the name of the shop is not posted outside (you see it once you are inside if you can read Katakana). Once you exit the elevator, go left to the end of the hall. It is the last door on your left. Other guys working in the building didn't even know it by its name, so it took me some time to figure out which shop it was.
I asked whethe gaijin were ok, and got the same response Hunter described. After ascertaining that I could get by in Japanese (the standard is not high, just have to have enough so you can understand basic instructons and chat a little with the girl), the man consulted with a girl or two behind the curtain, and then when returning, showed me a photo of a girl and asked whether that one was ok... she looked pretty good in the photo, so I said sure.
I took the 60 minute course, which was offered at 8900 - I had no coupon, and perhaps the difference reflected time of day (I was there in the evening). Still a good price.
Kyo was very nice, a bit overweight and has bad teeth, but otherwise attractive (and I do not generally go for heavier women), and very friendly and fun. And indeed, she is a married woman (told me she has a bunch of kids), and works only weekends. She stripped down and straddled my lap in reverse position grinding up against me to get me hot, and then turned around to give me a great BBBJ while waiting for the tub to fill; then when I started in on her nipples and stimulating her by hand, she got so involved, we didn't get to the bath before the first round.
Then the bath, and with only a hint, I was given a second BJ in the tub. Nice.
This one was a real GFE. Lot's of lying together and hugging afterward, small chat... she really seemed to enjoy it, and then gave me a card when we were fininshed so I could call the shop to request her again. Highly recommended to those who enjoy this type of girl and understand the limits.
By the way, the neighborhood around there is a very active red light area. There might well be other places that will take gaijin. I was propositioned by a SW as I exited the underground, so I suspect there are other possibilities there.
Actually I didn't mean to say it was interesting to have a FS experience in Tobita. Tobita is always FS. What I meant to write was that it was interesting your girl didn't absolutely demand you wear a condom.
In my experience there a condom (except the occasional BBBJ for warmup) is definitely the norm.
Road Lover
05-10-07, 21:46
Following dissapointing sexually and spiritually purifying stay in Kyoto, I decided to take the 30 minute train journey to Osaka. Thanks to the very specific directions given by Romannose and confirmed by Sukebe, I went like an arrow from the Osaka JR station to the Tennoji station on the Matsuido line ( about 8 stations away). Found the hospital building with Apollo nad Lucias easily. Then we should turn left and keep going downhill througha residential area till you come to a street shop complex. Tobita is behind this. I got lost here and got siked by the sudden apearence of residetial area. Went around in circles for sometime, before picking up courage and asking a man for direction. He pointed me in the right direction. But was not good enough to get me into the place. So I had asked direction again. THis time of an elderly woman. She also pointed out the same direction. I asked them in proper English ( as I dont even speak rudimentary phrases of Japanese). These people didnt understand English, but understood Tobita, when I said that word and immediately pointed me in the right direction. THe third time I asked a young women ( didnt look like she was in th eprofession an dlike a resident of the residtialfamily area), she also pointed me in the right direction. Every body there knows Tobita, nobody was ashamed or embarrased when I asked direction. The neighbour hood residents know and looks like appreciate that I was going there! I found Tobita quite by accident in the end, as I followed a young girl riding a bike to what looked like a tailor shop, but which later turned out to be one of the TOBITA shops!
I looked at all the probably 150 shops in the Tobita area. Tobita is an area where there are shops where the mamasan and the girl offering her services sit on a cushion by the opening into the shop. They present the girls nicely with a flash light dazzling her up a bit and girls alluring themselves in various make up get ups. Very similar in concept to Amsterdam and sme other Eurpoean capitals where women sit inide the windows offering a good view of ther assets.
Clearly the shops nearer the shopping street and the residential area have better women than the one farther, which are essentially really old hags. I dont know who goes to them. They all ask the same price of 11000 for 20 mins. After circling around, I settled on a young one and bargained a 30 min service for 12000, which was granted. Except for about 10 odd shops every else I had an acknowledgement from either the girl or her mamasan or both, wit more than 50% actively propoting themselves. SO it is fair to say, I was ina buyers market and therefore chose well, a young, fresh looking and a small looking girl with just a hint of curves. This was as opposed to big titties, which I suspect are a result of silicone pads.
The girl I was destined to mate was Miki. ABout 25, slight in body, great servcie. Very gentle. Did mish, doggy and anal. CBJ, my licking her pussy, she orgasming ( fake or real I dont know, but she was all wet, which made my action that much more pleasurable). All done in 30 minuts without appearing rushed. Was indeed the crowning glory of a weeklong shag fest in Japan.
On the way back, had a nice italian pasta dinner at the restaurant on the firt floor of the hospital building containing Apollo and Lucias. That concluded a great fortnight in Japan for me with good action covering all the highlights of Japanese sex life from the best calls ervcies of CLub Boo and AM in Tokyo, the silken touch of the Yoshiwara's soaplands, the suck restaurants of Kyoto and then the famed Tobita of Osaka!
Roadlover:
Did you negotiate your price in Tobita with the Mamasan in the front or with the girl once you were in the room?
Thanks,
X
That's a good question, and I'd love to hear the answer.
I have been asked to confirm a price in both ways: Sometimes the mama sorts it out with you when you are in the genkan before you go up, sometimes the girl lets you sit there at the table and look at the little laminated paper and you tell her in the room. It's usually the first thing to be sorted, and the cash is expected rather quickly and up front.
But never have I negotiated there.
Honestly I wouldn't have the compunction to talk down the price with either the girl or the mama, for my own reasons, but that's just me.
Tobita 30 min. service runs to my knowledge at 22,000, so Roadlover got a whopping discount if he's remembering correctly. Like almost 50%.
Actually now that I think of it once a girl (chatty Yuka, who I mentioned in another post) gave me a 2,000 yen discount when I said I'd have to break a 5,000 bill. I wasn't negotiating, she was just very laid-back about it. "Ni-man de ii yo."
I've never been disappointed there, but I'd still like to know what is on offer for the 40-minute or 1-hour course (around 40,000.)
FYI usual rates in Tobita:
15min 11000yen
20min 16000yen
30min 21000yen
40min 31000yen
60 min 41000yen
In some cases the 60 course is only availabel before 5 pm.
As I said before, anyone with inside info on whether the 40 or 60 min. is substantially differen from the others (meaning, in any way worth the jack up in price) I would love to hear.
Road Lover
05-20-07, 22:10
Roadlover:
Did you negotiate your price in Tobita with the Mamasan in the front or with the girl once you were in the room?
Thanks,
X
Frankly, I didnt think I was negotiating! I did this with the mamasan in front of the girl and the mamasan consulted with the girl before agreeing with me. I just thought 20 mins was just too short and wanted an hour's run. I was happy to pay proportionately higher. But was pleasently surprised when she gave me this price. I obviously took wiht glee and struggled to look pained! Not speaking any Japanese also helped I guess. I was there at around 6. 30. While some cars were cruising around, the area didnt look as busy as it might otherwise get.
Frankly, I didnt think I was negotiating! I did this with the mamasan in front of the girl and the mamasan consulted with the girl before agreeing with me. I just thought 20 mins was just too short and wanted an hour's run. I was happy to pay proportionately higher. But was pleasently surprised when she gave me this price. I obviously took wiht glee and struggled to look pained! Not speaking any Japanese also helped I guess. I was there at around 6. 30. While some cars were cruising around, the area didnt look as busy as it might otherwise get.
My guess is that he Road Lover was there at a time they weren't too busy, and he is good looking enough that the girl felt like it would be less of a chore and granted the extra 15minutes.
My guess is that he Road Lover was there at a time they weren't too busy, and he is good looking enough that the girl felt like it would be less of a chore and granted the extra 15minutes.Ha!
Well you could be right I suppose. Now I wonder if it's my aftershave.
I think your phrase "less of a chore" (and not "her pleasure") is right on the money. One of the reasons I don't mind (so much) paying full price. I want the girl to feel as good as possible about the experience. I don't really care if this is naive.
Azure Knight
06-03-07, 23:40
My report on Tobita
Well, it's been a long time since I've done any mongering. But I found myself with some spare time today, and thanks to the reports of the noble ISG Soldiers, I decided to give Tobita a try.
I live in Kyoto, which is pretty dry in itself, but I also have the disadvantage of being black. And tall. And, somewhat intimidating (even some westerners find me intimidating. Though I don't try to be). So whatever nil chance there is in Kyoto for foreign mongers, my chances have crossed into negative numbers. But reading the reports here, it seemed as if people were getting 50-70% success ratios, and I figured that wasn't too bad. If I could get even half that, I'd be happy. So with the directions provided by, I set off for Tobita. I should also note here that I can speak fluent Japanese, although this doesn't really seem to help me that much, as most touts have made up their minds about me before I can even open my mouth.
I would like to confirm that the directions by the way are SPOT ON. It was really easy to find. The name of the subway line is Yotsubashi. You can catch it from the Nishi Umeda station.
As many others have described it, it's a neighborhood with houses that sit next to each other, where the mamasan and one of the girls sits in the entrance and tries to catch the attention of male passer-by's. It really does seem like a scene removed from time or something. It's somewhat expansive, with several cross streets and what not. I arrived at about 4:30PM on a Sunday. I was hoping that this would be late enough to have a good number of shops open, but still early enough to beat the crowd. My timing seemed pretty good. About 85-90% of the shops were open, and there weren't too many guys milling about.
However, after 15 minutes of walking around the district, my success ratio was a whopping 0. I tried looking mamasans and girls in the eye, smiling, walking slowly, nothing. I turned down side streets, passing by more shops. Nothing. There was a wide variety of girls. Young girls, mature women, OLD women (at least 50 years old); short, tall, thin, plump, big breasted, etc. Most were wearing nightgown type clothes, but some were wearing maid outfits, schoolgirl uniforms, and various other dresses. I found quite a few girls that struck my fancy. But none of the mamasans were acknowledging my existance.
I continued turning down one street after another, in many cases passing a particular shop 2, 3, even 4 times. The girls and mamasan began to notice that I was walking around in circles. I decided if they weren't going to come to me, then I'd come to them. I started trying to approach the mamasan of girls I liked. Before I could even get a word out of my mouth, the mamasan was shaking her head, giving me the armbar cross-X "No", or flat out saying "akan" (Kansai for "no good"). I tried to save face by asking if they knew how I could get back to the subway (I was also hoping they'd notice my Japanese abilities and change their minds). Quite a few mamasan weren't even willing to help out with that. I continued to walk around, and now I was starting to hear the mamasan and girls talk about me as I walked past. "You hear that? He's trying to pretend like he's looking for the subway! " One mamasan says. One working girl simply says "I don't want him as a customer. No way! "
If you ever want to have your ego completely broken down, try mongering in Japan for awhile, especially if you're not of Asian descent. I'm not any kind of a heartthrob or anything like that, but I'd like to think I'm somewhat halfway decent looking. I have a nice build, I'm in my 20's, healthy, clean cut, and not harsh on the eyes. I was dressed neatly too. Polo shirt and slacks. So it was interesting to be walking along, and have a middle-aged, overweight, balding, sweaty Japanese guy, or an old, crusty Japanese dude with several teeth missing walking ahead of me, and to have the mamasan try to solicit him, and then ignore my existance as I trailed behind. And people wonder why Japan is called "The Land of Tears. "
I had pretty much given up. None of the places I wanted to go would have me. None of the places I didn't want to go would have me either. I wanted to leave, but I found that I'd randomly crossed so many side streets, that I really was lost. I tried seriously asking the mamasan for directions again, and again they were giving me "No! " signals before I ever opened my mouth. I found the outer rim of the district, and decided to just walk along here, hoping I'd run into the street I came in on. However, as I was walking along, I heard a "Doozo! " from a mamasan. I looked around. There were no Japanese guys in the area. Could she have been talking to me? I looked at the mamasan, and she repeated it. I was actually being invited in! I took a look at the girl. Not attractive at all. Stocky build. She could have been a pro-wrestler. And the layers of makeup could only partially hide the ugly. And she was getting up there in the years too.
But you know what? Maybe it was because my ego had already been broken down, maybe I was just happy to have finally been invited, maybe I had just set my heart on doing some mongering today in Tobita. That I accepted. Beggars can't be choosers. And while this saying usually works the other way around. That's just how Japan is.
I went with the woman upstairs to a tatami room with a futon on the floor. The mamasan came up with water and snacks, and talked about the price. I agreed on 11, 000 yen for 15 minutes. The mamasan left and I was left with the woman, who introduced herself as Yuka. We had some small talk, then she left to "prepare". I moved to sit on the futon, but kept my clothes on. Yuka came back and first asked if I wanted to dim the lights. I thought that would be a good idea. She instructed me to take off my clothes. I did so, as she did the same. She got started with some DFK, with some ear-nibbling and nipple kissing (which I am a sucker for). She eventually moved down for a nice BBBJ. After a few minutes of that, she asked "69? " I didn't particularly want to, but I said yes. Anything to get the process moving along, and get the most out of my yen. Yuka swings around, and let me tell you, I got hit with, undoubtedly, the hairyest snatch I have ever seen in my ENTIRE LIFE. I had to go on an Indiana Jones expedition before even getting to the pussy. Oh well, what does not kill us, makes us stronger. I did try to minimize how much tongue I actually used though. I ate a girl out in a pink salon once and came back with a throat infection.
After a few minutes of 69, Yuka asks if I want to go ahead and put it in, to which I agree. She asks if it's okay to use a condom. I don't know what would have happened if I'd said I didn't want to. But honestly, if she hadn't asked, I would have insisted on it. Yuka puts on the condom, and she gets on top. She has a tight pussy at least. We get a good session in, and I just choose to finish with her on top rather than change positions. At first, Yuka made the "not really, but I'm gonna moan to make the guy feel like he's doing good" sounds during the foreplay, but after insertion she really did seem to enjoy it. She cleaned me up, and noted how much bigger I was than Japanese guys. The bruised ego starts to feel slightly better.
Yuka leaves to get cleaned up, and I put my clothes back on. I took the hand towel I'd gotten when I first came and used it to wipe my tongue down. I also noticed a basket with assorted candies, and gum. I took two sticks of gum. I only took one at first, but I dunno, something in the back of my head said "take two". Yuka comes back and we have a bit more small talk. She asks if I'd ever been to Tobita before, and I told her that this was my first time. I told her that I lived in Kyoto, and it was hard/impossible to get any service there. I also mentioned that I'd been turned down quite a bit here in Tobita (tastefully leaving out the part where she was my last resort). Yuka seemed bothered by this, and said that people, especially Japanese people, can be judgemental about a person based solely on their appearance. She seemed disappointed that this attitude was in Tobita as well. She also said that she was also subject to the same kind of discrimination just because of how she looked. Yuka was a kindred spirit. She earned my respect here. She also said that it was too bad that the industry was so harsh towards foreigners, as we were MUCH better than Japanese guys (better manners, better sex! ), including myself.
Our time ran out, and Yuka and the mamasan saw me off and asked me to come back again. I'd been worried about the time. 15 minutes didn't seem like much, but honestly, it had been more than enough here. Overall, great GFE, great FS. Wish the girl had been a lot more attractive. But I was glad to have given her my money, if for no other reason than for having accepted me. Who knows. Maybe Yuka or the mamasan will talk about it and change some other people's minds? Hopeful pipe-dream thinking, I know.
Anyway, having done what I set out to do, I was all ready to leave Tobita. But I was still lost! I wondered around again, still looking for the exit. As I walked, a Japanese friend called me on my cell phone. I answered and talked in Japanese as I walked. Quite a few mamasan seemed to notice me speaking fluent Japanese. I finished my phone call and doubled back. The mamasan still didn't call out to me, but they didn't seem as put off by my existance as before. Maybe, it could just all be in my head.
I was still lost, when I passed by a place I'd passed by on my original run. The girl was older. In her late 30's maybe, and wearing a smart pink suit. I like older women, and I'd thought that she was pretty enough, but hadn't bothered asking at this shop. As I passed by this time, the mamasan looked at me and actually smiled. I kept walking. But I was still lost. I checked my wallet. I just happened to have 11, 000 yen left. I decided to ask the mamasan for directions at least, and then see what happened. The mamasan was very helpful, told me exactly how to get back to the street I'd come in on. She then noted how good my Japanese was. I told her I'd been living and working in Japan for awhile. She asked how I'd come to Tobita. I told her a Japanese friend had recommended the place, and I'd been walking around but hadn't had any luck getting into any shops. She then offered her shop to me. Yes! Score! I confirmed that it was okay, then stepped into the entrance. The mamasan said "We have a younger girl! " and called for a girl named Wakana. I actually kind of wanted the mature lady already sitting there. But eh, again, beggars can't be choosers and what not. Wakana comes out, and indeed she's younger. Definitely in her 20's. A bit chubby. But, big tits! I haven't had big tits on a Japanese girl since. Ever, maybe. Allright, I'll take it.
Wakana is obviously nervous as she leads me upstairs. The mamasan comes up, and I confirm that the price is 11, 000 yen. At this shop though, that'll get me 20 minutes. She offers 30 minutes for 16, 000 yen, but I don't even have that on me. Wakana tries to make small talk, but is still very nervous. She leaves to freshen up. While she's gone, I wonder how or even if junior is going to rise to the occasion again. It hasn't even been half an hour. I decide that, ultimately, that'll be Wakana's problem. She comes back, and we both get undressed and get on the futon. She skips any kissing, and goes straight for a BBBJ. Well, any fears about junior putting in an encore were dashed as he heroically rose to the occasion. After a few minutes, she put the condom on and got on top.
Wakana wasn't quite as tight as Yuka, and not quite as active on top. I sort of felt the erection starting to go away, so I told her to switch to missionary. However, in the transitional period I lost the erection! I don't know about you guys, but I HATE losing erections in front of any girl, but especially working girls. I mean, its their job, and losing an erection is almost like saying "you suck at what you do. " In ordinary situations, I usually go for a little oral. Would I be eating out my second working girl within an hour? I suddenly remembered the second stick of gum I'd taken from Yuka's shop. Ah, what the heck. I dived right in, and was able to get junior back up to battle status in no time. Whereas I said Yuka "seemed" to enjoy it, I KNOW Wakana enjoyed it. It was written all over her face. She kept trying to restrain herself from saying "I'm coming! " (in Japanese, "iku", so she kept saying "ikk-"). I also seemed to be hitting areas she previously didn't know existed. This got her more into it, and soon her nervousness was gone and it was a real GFE.
After awhile, I realized I wasn't going to get another orgasm out, so I just stopped at a good point. Wakana needed a minute or two to recover, before she got up and started the clean up. She told me that she really enjoyed it, and again that I measured up much bigger compared to all the Japanese clients.
Mending of broken, shattered ego: COMPLETE.
Wakana and I talked for a bit, and eventually the chime rang signaling the end of the time. Again, 20 minutes doesn't seem like much at first, but I was surprised at how long it actually lasted. Wakana thanked me and asked that I come back again, making sure to tell me the days she worked (everyday except Monday). The mamasan was even friendly as I left, reminding me of the way to the subway once more.
So all in all, I got two good GFE FS, but it was sort of bittersweet as the girls weren't ones I would have ordinarily picked. It was really frustrating not being able to choose the girls I actually wanted, and then kind of infuriating to be flat out refused, and have the mamasans and girls talk about me behind my back. I suppose if you are of Asian descent, or Caucasian and not sufficiently threatening, your options will increase. If you've got your heart set on mongering in Osaka, Tobita's probably the right choice. However, I think you actually have better chances with non-working girls and nampa. Just have a good technique, go to the right places, and you can probably pick up better looking girls and spend only a fraction of the cost. But that's a debate for another day I suppose.
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Went in early in the week, about mid-morning.
Decided to shop around, but there were a surprising number of other guys about for what I thought would be a dead time of day. I guess it was shortly after payday for a lot of people.
The girl I marked on round one was taken by the time I got back to her. Decided on a girl with long black hair in a white evening dress with a sweet smile. I got asked in by almost every mama I saw—almost, not all. About four or five just gave me the cold shoulder. (Great post, btw, AzureKnight.)
She took me up to the room, and we sorted out the price. This time the room was well lighted. Usually the rooms there are dark and the lights get turned down. Today the sunlight was streaming in thru very thin curtains. I thought it was gonna be like screwing in a car park, it was so bright.
I asked whether longer time meant anything different. She said the girl would be happier and happier the more time you paid for. I guess at least it keeps her from fucking four blokes in an hour—one has gotta be easier. And about the same money. While I was trying to work it out in me head I just said "Sanjyuppun. " She immediately said "arigato. "
Then she asked if didn’t I want 40 minutes or more. I said just the 30 today. Honestly I didn’t have enough for more.
I asked what she liked or was okay with. Anal she was off. When mentioned 69 she was fine with it but surprised and then wiped herself off with a handful of wetcloths before we started in and kept saying "Gomen gomen. " I said no worries.
We got down to it. Beautiful, beautiful. Just great stuff. Not much on top, but she was a honey. She didn’t let me kiss her face, which was a first for me in Tobita. She covered her eyes with her arm, and kept them mostly closed throughout. She didn’t use any lotion.
After we finished, we started to talk. She told me where she was from originally and that she really needed money so was working here.
Then I noticed bruises on both her legs and one arm. I also noticed scars on both her arms and her side. She explained the bruises by saying she was drunk and fell down, and didn’t remember. She said she had been out with friends. I thought she must have right fell down a flight of stairs to get that kind of bruises, but didn’t say it. She talked about her hobbies and told me which places she likes to go in Osaka. She told me her real name but said it was a secret, and not to say the name out loud in front of the mama.
I don’t know if she got her bruises the way she said—just an accident. I didn’t ask about the scars—it’s none of my business anyway; I’m not her knight. I’m just another guy who fucked her. Had a funny feeling with her, though. She said she had been working there for only three days.
She was a honey, but then laughed too loud and too long at one of my jokes. I been here long enough to know what to do: Laugh with her. But saying "You don’t have to be so fake with me, " was—stupidly--on the tip of my tongue. I forgot, I suppose, where I was for a sec.
I ended up telling her my real name, too. She kept telling me to come back sometime. But they all say that. When I said "I don’t come here so often, " she just said, again, "Mata kite. " Wonder if I will.
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Azure Knight that was one of the best reports I have read in a long time. Very inspirational! More power to ya!
And you are right, someone in your situation is better off doing Nampa that fuzoku.
So many Japanese are what I would call "selective capitalists". I just find ways to take advantage of their ignorance and bias.
Both Crikey and Azure Night seem to have raised the bar for reports...
I do sympathize with the Blue Night via the fuzoku scene, but I know of a fair number of J-gals who are so into hip-hop that they won't even consider a white guy. Just a matter of going out there and getting yours...
I also might suggest trying some DH-those gals are more willing to take chances since no one is looking over their shoulder.
Big JP, an African-American, posted on the Tokyo board so many picts his became one of the legendary Nampa dudes of the Japan WSG.
As if we needed any more. Still I don't have experience with Juso or the DH scene so I am payinit forward hopin you guys will let me know about those places.
Second time this month for me. Wanted to find the girl from previous post again, but she was no where to be seen. Stopped once at another girl and the mama gave me the crossed-x-hands thing with an apologetic bow. Another time the girl who saw me was noticeably unnerved but the mama told her not to worry, that she could do a gaijin. Luckily for her perhaps she was not my type.
Just to mention it, so far in Tobita I've been with girls in high school uniforms, a kimono, an evening dress, and a race queen. This week the girl had on just red lingerie and a white cotton dress shirt buttoned with one button, and was wearing glasses. I guess to appeal to the fetish aspect.
She had nice-sized ski-sloped breasts for such a skinny girl, and they were real. Probably a Japanese D, but this looked big on her. She was also quite pretty but had that bouffant Osaka city girl hairstyle.
I think she was new. DIdn't ask, however. Her name was Kazuki. Good points: Great breasts, very pretty, nice fishnet thigh stockings, open to gaijin, tried to be friendly.
Bad points: Could tell she was just trying to be friendly. During CBJ she looked at me batting eyelashes and smiled. Again was refused on anal. But the kicker: "Don't touch my nipples," she said.
Without thinking I just asked "Eh?"
"They're ticklish," she said. Kusugutai.
She did tell me to knead them. "Monde kudasai," she said. So I did. But that was as far as she allowed, which of course made me want to get on those nipples even more. DIdn't though. Oh well.
Doggie style, missionary, then woman on top. When I came she just sat on me for 10 or 20 seconds, which was different. I think she likes to see guys come. Then again I have no idea.
She left promptly after wipe up and stayed gone what I thought was inordinately long. 20 minute session, and bell rang while she was out. When she came back it was like "otsukaresama mata kite" (well done, come again).
Not the best as far as enthusiasm goes, but really hot. Said she was 21. I keep expecting to see these girls walking around in the city, but its a big place, and many are probably from out of town.
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Matsushima is located near the intersection of Minato-dori and Honden, west side of the avenue, about 1 km north of the dome--you recognize it by the neon half-arches marking it off. 60-80 girls sitting in doorways with their mammasan, many 7s, 8s, and 9s. 50% strikeout ratio for foreigners. Had a solid GFE, one near GFE, and one regular service: 20 min. = 10,000 yen. Plenty of action by 4pm. Don`t ask for further directions, because I can`t help you out any further. Recommend Super City Hotel for great free spa service: www.superhotel.co.jp 20 min walk to district.
Azure Knight
06-22-07, 07:10
because we just can't get enough of tobita. this post will probably not bring any new information. but i just like re-living the experience. almost as fun as the real thing. okay, that's a complete lie, but still, i know i like to write them and read the reports of others, so hey.
free time today and frustrations at home led to the mongering urge. i live in kyoto, and there are actually two pink salons that i can go to. the primary touts at these two places have seen me around for the past few years, and walking around with japanese people speaking japanese, so they've accepted that i'm not just some random tourist. one guy is young. late 20's. his shop is just one of those open bj bars. bbbj, but no chance for fs. another guy is in his late 30's-early 40's, and his place actually has the booths. i could maybe finagle fs depending on the girl, but the bj would pretty much be cfj no debate. but if those two specific guys weren't there, i wouldn't be able to get in at all. i was thinking about this, when i remembered good 'ol tobita. i could hop on the subway after work and be there in 15 minutes. my last experience was kind of average/disappointing, but if i could find a place with a decent girl, it was fs and bbbj. so i started to factor tobita in with my considerations.
and this is what i love about mongering in japan. any other country, you find a girl you want, tell her what you want, pay her, and that's pretty much the end of the story. not japan. japan makes things much more interesting. i had the following options before me.
1. go to tobita, where i might not be accepted, or if i was, the girl could be average/hideous.
2. go to pink salon 1, bbbjcim, girl will probably be hideous, but oh well, they keep the lights low and just don't look down. oh, but that's only if my tout friend is there.
3. go to pink salon 2, cfj, maybe fs, depends on the girl, who will probably be hideous, and of course, this depends on my other tout friend being there.
4. despite every intention and a pocket full of yen, strike out everywhere, go home frustrated.
see? adventure! i finally decided to give tobita another shot. i promised myself i wouldn't just go in the first place that accepted me, and i wouldn't pick a hideous girl just because they accepted me. also, no walking up the same streets over and over again. if i strike out, just call it a bust and try the pink salons back home.
i arrived at tobita a little before 7. a handful of shops were closed, most were open. only moderate foot traffic, which was good for me. i immediately set out, walking slowly, trying to keep a smile on my face, slight but not intimidating eye contact. i also tried hitting the side streets, hoping i could end up in one of the more isolated areas where perhaps the mamasan couldn't afford to be picky. a few of the girls seemed to be giving me looks, but the mamasan looked as if they wouldn't hesitate to kill me on the spot given the opportunity to do so. i was going 0-fer, just like the last time, when i turned down a side street leading to the covered arcade, and a mamasan called out to me. i stopped and looked in. the girl was a little below average. not hideous, but nothing i'the choose if i had a choice. okay, gotta stay strong, stay the path. i asked the mamasan if i could walk around some more, to which she smiled and said sure, and please come back. well, at least not all of them are evil little gremlin women.
i doubled back, made a few more random turns, and must have ended up on a main street or something, because the majority of the shops were open, and all of the girls were smoking hot. young, shapely, beautiful women, all looked as if they'the been snatched right out of a magazine page. nothing even remotely below an 8. again, some of the girls gave me looks, but the mamasan weren't interested. i passed through smoking hot blvd without one "doozo". you know what's amazing? if i were japanese, or at least an asian that could pass for japanese, i could walk down this street and have my pick of, what, 10-12 absolutely gorgeous girls to have sex with. all i'the have to do is have 11, 000 yen in my pocket, and walk up to the mamasan's door. if i were japanese. incredible.
i passed through smoking hot blvd with not one invitation, but i didn't want to give up just yet. the girls were just too amazing. i remembered what happened the last time in tobita. i'the gotten a call from a friend, spoke in japanese, and then some of the mamasan's didn't seem as put off by me. well, if it had worked before, why not give it a try now? i went down a bit to one of the quiet streets, pulled out my cell phone, and pretended to take a call from my company's boss. i walked back up smoking hot blvd as i "talked", walking at a clip fast enough to look busy, but not too fast as to blow right by. i didn't bother looking at any of the girls. i finished my "conversation" at the end of the alley, and then pretending that, being engrossed in my call i'the turned down the wrong street, doubled back. my ploy seemed to have worked somewhat. though i wasn't getting any doozo's, the mamasan weren't blatantly ignoring me now either.
(author's note. if you too would like to try the cell phone trick, if you have a phone that lights up as you talk, be sure to at least activate the lights. otherwise, it might be obvious that you're faking it.)
about midway down smoking hot blvd, i heard a soft "doozo" thrown my way. my plan had worked. i was being invited in! but wait, what about the girl? i looked inside. absolutely stunning. pretty face, great set of tits, great body. jackpot! i almost cried tears of joy on the spot, but decided to check those for later. the mamasan and girl welcomed me in, both noting how good my japanese was.
i went upstairs with the girl, who later introduced herself as tomo. right off the bat, tomo got down to the pricing. at this place, it was 11, 000 for 15 minutes, 16, 000 for 25. i'm usually el-cheapo, but tomo was really hot, and i wanted to take my time and enjoy with her, so i opted for the 25. i thanked her for accepting me, and she said that it wasn't unusual to have a lot of foreigners pass through here. she began naming off some of her past customers. american, european, singapore, malaysia, thailand, indonesia, etc. it was quite an impressive list. i told her a little about my troubles in tobita, to which she said "that's too bad. i love foreign guys! " she said she usually tries to give them a look and a smile, because the mamasan doesn't actively call out to them, hopefully they'll make eye contact with her and come to her.
after some more small talk, tomo went to the bathroom, came back, and quickly undressed, instructing me to do the same. tomo was even better out of her clothes than i'the hoped. she wasn't too thin, as many japanese girls are, but she wasn't fat at all. she had a nice, healthy body, complete with curves, t&a, and a gorgeous face. a definite 9. i felt like a lucky lotto winner.
we move to the futon and get started. tomo does some nipple licking, followed by a bbbj, and with proper attention to the balls as well. she was really good, occasionally batting her eyes up at me as she worked me over. she started to reach for the condom, but i stopped her and asked if it would be allright to eat her out. tomo is surprised. "yeah! you'll eat me out? " she wastes no time in getting on her back. i slide down and help myself to her nice pussy. tomo loves every minute of it, and it doesn't take long before she comes, her nice body shaking in my mouth. i kiss my way back up to her breasts, and tomo grabs my head and pulls me towards her for some dfk. she grabs the condom and puts it on me. "i want your cock now. no i need it now! " she says. this girl is great.
we get started in missionary, and apparently i'm hitting all the right spots. tomo is really enjoying herself. she comes about 2-3 times in missionary. she's one of those girls who says "dame! iku! " ("dame" means "no" or "not good" in japanese. it can be a little off-putting at first), i haven't had one of those in awhile. but more than that. tomo is a screamer. i don't mean a few loud moans, i mean full force "oh my god i'm finally a woman! " screaming. there is no way the entire house didn't hear her. there is no way her voice didn't carry out to the street. and i wouldn't be surprised if i few of you heard her from your homes. it was that intense. i am completely serious, there's no way she wasn't heard on the street at least.
it would be a waste to have a girl with the energy of tomo just lay there in missionary, so i ask her to get on top. as i expected, she was awesome, squatting on top of me and working me hard. after awhile i took over the work, and tomo came a few more times. at one point, tomo stops moving, and i ask her if she's okay. "no. i'm not okay. " is all she can say, before straightening herself and riding me hard again.
tomo asks me to do doggy, and we change up. tomo comes almost instantly in doggy, with a second orgasm not too far behind. i love doggy, and seeing tomo's nice rounded ass bounce against my stomach was wonderful, but i feared that time might be running out, and i wanted to enjoy more of her from the front, so i instructed her to get back in missionary. i hit her with some of my specialty moves which really knocked her out. it was obvious that tomo was enjoying herself. aside from the screaming, she was biting her lip, scratching the floor, and her eyes were rolling back in her head. maybe it's just me, but there's nothing more i love than knowing that the girl is really enjoying it too. so i was loving seeing tomo writhe in pleasure, knowing that it wasn't an act for my benefit.
time is almost certainly running out, and i'm reaching my limits, so i ask tomo if i can come. she grabs me by the back of the head, pulls my face close to hers, and says "oh yeah, come. blow a huge load. " this girl is awesome. i'm more than happy to comply. i stay inside of her for an extra few minutes with some gentle rhythmic movement. tomo is still responding, arching her back to allow me further penetration. "oh my god, i can't stop! " she says.
i finally withdraw, and tomo is laying dazed on the floor. once again, i ask if she's okay. "i completely forgot that i was working. " tomo confesses. she gives me a dfk before taking off the condom and helping to clean me up. tomo notes my size again (having done so at the very beginning) and saying how great it was. japanese guys are apparently half my size, if not smaller. "sometimes, i get guys like this! " she says, showing me her thumb.
"i like big. " tomo says. "i like americans the best. americans are the longest and the hardest. europeans have decent size, but they're not as hard. japanese guys. erect or not, it's just small and soft. " you know, i will never, ever tire of working girls badmouthing japanese guys. it makes up for all the suddenly-silent male touts and mean-spirited obasan that a monger in japan will face. i told tomo that she was awesome, and tomo just shakes her head and says "no, you. you're the best. "
as we're getting dressed, i ask tomo if, if it would be okay, if i could come see her again. tomo's head whips around as she excitedly says "come! come and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) me again! " this girl is awesome! she gives me a business card with her working times on it (also, most importantly, the name of the shop. so i know what to look for, and even if she's not sitting out front at least i can ask for her). some more dfk on the way out (she asks me one more time to come back and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her), and both tomo and the mamasan give me warm partings as i depart.
it really was my intention to leave tobita. i mean, i honestly wasn't going to do any better than tomo. however, once again, i found myself lost. i'the taken note of some visual markers when i first entered the area, but i couldn't even find those. i was wondering around in circles again, again passing shops 3-4 times. again, mamasan were starting to laugh at me, with one even calling out "you're a weirdo! " in japanese. i stopped to try and use the gps on my phone at one point, and noticed a girl in a shop looking at me. she had dyed bright blonde hair and dark tanned skin, large tits, and a nice slender body. she seemed like a girl who'the be into hip hop and rap. the session with tomo actually left me energized, so i thought, "why not? " i approached the shop, but the mamasan only gave me a "gomen nasai" and that was the end of the story. oh well. in my wanderings, i passed by tomo's shop again. i noticed that she was back sitting on the pillow at the entrance. i'the only left maybe 5 minutes ago, so i was a little surprised at how quickly she was ready for work again. since i was here again, i poked my head into the shop and asked for directions back to the subway. tomo and the mamasan were both helpful, pointing me in the right direction. as they were finishing giving me directions, a japanese guy came into the shop to patronize tomo. tomo gives me an indiscreet wave before getting up to go upstairs. remembering our conversation before about japanese guys, i couldn't help but to laugh to myself a little. i hope i didn't wear her out/widen her out too much for ya, fella.
all in all, an incredible experience at tobita. tomo was not only great session, but one of my best lays, and definitely one of the hottest. she forgot that she was working. i'the forgotten that i'the paid. i'm definitely going to see her again, next week. i was ambivalent after my last trip to tobita, but i'm sold now. the closer you look to being japanese, the easier your tobita experience will be. i'm pretty much on the opposite end of the scale. so, it did take a lot of humiliation and rejection, but i found what i wanted and more. just took a little patience, and an incredibly tough skin.
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A silver Mercedes had bumped into a phone pole, or maybe into another Mercedes, so the cops were out, around four of them, on bicycles, motorcycles, and on foot. This put a damper on many of the afternoon’s recreational spots, as many of the genkans suddenly closed, some which I had passed just moments earlier and which had been open.
Anyway in another row it was business as usual. I walked. One girl flat-out refused a foreigner (yours truly) even when the mama seemed to suggest it would be okay. On further fly-bys they didn’t even look me. Yet when a carload of yahoos from the nearby construction site drove by you would have thought it was Mardi Gras and the women were in search of beads they were so attentively chiming "Irrashai, dozo. " Such is life. Finally, after searching in vain for the girl of a few weeks ago and seeing all new faces again (Tobita must have a big turnover), I saw a girl in a genkan who hadn’t been there earlier. She was really pretty, though small. She had a face that could have been on a magazine. I approached, got the "dozo, " and in I stepped. O jama shimasu.
We got upstairs. She was in an evening gown. She immediately asked if the regular-sized condom would be okay. "I am sure it’ll be okay, " I said, then wondered if it would be. What was a regular-sized condom? I had once used what I considered a too tight condom a few years earlier in another prefecture, but wasn’t sure if that had been just a one time thing or not.
Anyway she told me to get undressed. I did. She did too in record time, setting her evening dress out lengthwise on the floor like the starched dress of a paper doll. Off came the panties and bra. I was careful not to step on the dress. She had a tiny dark mole on the small of her back.
Her breasts were small, of course. She had a bandage across her lower belly, just beneath her bellybutton above her snatch. This gave me pause.
"Kega? " I asked. A wound?
"Yeah, " she said.
"From what? "
She explained but I couldn’t follow.
By now I was laying down. She blew into the condom and applied it with her lips to the head of my dick. Then rolled it down with her hand and sucked.
"Can I touch you? " I asked. I guess I’m over polite that way. My hand was arching around to her ass.
"Sure, but not down there, " she said, then put my dick back in her mouth. Un, demo shita wa dame yo.
"No? Why? " My hand moved up and tickled her breast.
She came up for air again, and then said the word one doesn’t want to hear: "Baikin. "
Baikin. For those who know, this means bacteria. "What? " I asked. She kept sucking away. My hand eased back. "Is this okay? "
She was done with the CBJ. "It’s okay, " she said. She arched her leg over me. "First, I’ll ride you. Slow, okay. "
My mind was fairly racing now, but she seemed okay. If the bandage was on her belly, it seemed not so much a threat. Still, I wasn’t really thinking clearly. What exactly had she said had caused the wound? By the time I was having second thoughts she had lowered herself and I was inside her and she was grinding into me slowly. Very nice.
I lifted her up, she was so small. This surprised her. "Not too deep, " she said. Christ, no touching the golden triangle, no going deep. And a bandage. But she was pretty. I started to wonder if I was really being stupid.
She grinded away slowly for a while. Really slowly. I could tell she was concentrating. She kept her eyes closed. The clock ticked. I wondered what the hell she was thinking about, because it sure wasn’t me. I finally moved a bit faster, and this brought her back to the moment. She seemed a bit overwhelmed. I lay her down, really gently, and we went missionary. I kept asking her if it hurt. "Not so much, " she said. Which meant a little. I slowed down.
"How about from behind? "
"No, " she said.
"How about from behind just for a little bit? "
"Just a little bit? " She rolled herself over. I don’t know what this position is called, but her legs were in between mine and I was doing her doggy style. I guess because she didn’t want me going too deep. I did her like this for a while. She was plenty lubricated, but that was probably lotion. I kept looking at the mole on her back. I opened her buttocks and got a good look at the action. I tried to go as slowly as possible.
"Can you come? " she asked.
Eventually, I did. I wasn’t even quite there when she said "O-Kei! "
So we finished up. She gave me tissues. "You can take care of it, " she said. I took the condom off, and she took it in a wad of tissue. Then off for cleanup. I heard her in what sounded like a shower room, or maybe she was just gargling. Hell, maybe she was spraying herself down with disinfectant. I had showered before taking the train in, and was wearing a tie (from work), so I wondered what she did when the construction boys came in.
Did I say she wouldn’t let me kiss her? She wouldn’t. "Of course not, " she had said, when I asked. So much for that breath freshening gum.
All in all, a weird experience. By far the least satisfying sexually, but we had a ten-minute talk after coitus. She said her family ran the place. It was her mom downstairs. (She said the word in Japanese. I asked for clarification, and she said yes, Okaasan. She used the word for family. I wonder, still if this was some cultural thing.)
She said she was from the North. All this in Japanese, but still she felt the need to explain to me that Hokkaido was in the North. I just nodded Yeah. She said some guys were too rough. She said there was a guy on the premises as security (I had asked about this.) She mostly answered a bunch of my questions. Very cordially.
In all I think this was a girl who should probably get out of the business. I have no idea the kind of things she must have experienced, but I was as gentle with her as I would have been had I been lifting a baby chick off the grass to put back in the nest. And still she was delicate.
Anyway, sounds like AKnight got the better deal this time. I think he probably had good timing. End of the month and most people have little cash, so it’s the best time to go. This was a three-visit month for me, so it may be quite a while before I go again. That and the "baikin" thing has put me off a bit. Though all seems well.
When I left, instead of just saying "o jama shimashita" I blurted out "Gomen nasai. " It just seemed like what I should say. They didn’t skip a beat, just said the regular "mata kite kudasai" (Come again)
I walked out. The cops were gone. I did notice some city hall looking place with a security camera pointed straight at the street. I winked at it. Maybe you’ll see me on television. I’m the guy who winks.
BTW the girl explained to me about how the money is divided in Tobita. Who gets what and how much and when. What I hadn’t known is part of it is shared by the whole area, like a kind of vendor’s tip pool, or maybe even a neighborhood fund. You’d think they could clean up the place for all the revenue that must come in, but I’ll stop boring you guys.
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Azure Knight
06-27-07, 02:20
Boring, Crikey? Not at all. I enjoy reading at least.
Sounds like you got a girl who was more or less forced into the business. That's always unfortunate. Especially the baikin part. The bandage, from my guess, would be to cover a surgical scar. But, who knows? Hopefully this girl does manage to get out of the business at some point in the near future. And I guess it just goes to show that even if we foreigners did have full selection, not all the girls would be great picks.
Speaking of, I made a trip out to Tobita myself yesterday. Not particularly for mongering, but because I wanted to see Tomo specifically. I'd taken decent mental notes of the area around where her shop was located, and if nothing else I knew the name of it. I arrived around 6:45 in the evening, and somehow managed to find the street where the shop is on my first try, no wandering or getting lost.
It was much nicer walking around in Tobita with a destination and a purpose. I didn't care how many mamasan weren't inviting me in. I think a few mamasan/girls recognized me from my previous trips, but I also didn't care about this as well.
I found Tomo's shop quickly. It's a great thing I remembered the name, because I wouldn't have remembered the mamasan, and there was a different girl sitting out front. The mamasan greeted me warmly. I asked about Tomo - the mamasan told me she was available, but I'd have to wait about 20 minutes. Tomo's a busy girl today it seems. I'd come out here to see her, so I told the mamasan I wouldn't mind waiting. I wondered for a moment if the mamasan wasn't going to offer up the girl who was already sitting there. She wasn't bad - nice slim figure, pretty face, and big tits, albeit fake. They just looked fake, and to confirm my suspicions I could still see a scar.
The mamasan took me to a room to wait. She brought me up the tea platter and turned on the AC for me. Waiting gave me a chance to cool down and dry off a bit, as the walk to Tobita in the increasingly hot and humid weather can get a little sticky. I'm not sure how long I actually waited - I suppose it was no more than 25 or 30 minutes, but it felt like a small eternity. Eventually, Tomo came. She thanked me for coming back, and instructed me to switch rooms, to the one we'd gone to before. I asked if she was okay and if she was "busy", but she just responded that this was the norm. I remembered the Japanese guy who showed up not long after I'd finished with her the last time, and couldn't help but to think that I was on the other end of the stick this time.
After again settling the price (16,000 yen for 25 minutes), Tomo goes to the bathroom to clean up, then comes back, goes straight to the futon, and has her clothes off within seconds. "Well then, let's have sex?" She says, exactly like that. I told her she was pretty direct. I stripped down and joined her on the futon.
The session was pretty much the same as the last time. She started her usual routine on me before I interrupted her to give her oral, and then from there it was just GFE. I noticed that Tomo made more of an effort to curb her screaming this time - I'm almost certain the mamasan or something must have said something to her about it the last time. At one point, she pretty much stopped making noise at all, because the only other alternative would have been to unleash a scream that would have brought down the entire neighborhood.
I'm pretty sure we went over time. I remember hearing a chime, and then a second double chime about 5 minutes later. Tomo never pressed me to hurry up and finish though (I'm not entirely sure she was aware of the chime). When I did finish, Tomo pretty much laid prone for a couple of minutes to recover. When she did recover, we both dressed and left the room, after one more DFK. Tomo said "come again", and when I said "Sure, if it's okay", she responded with "No no, none of that "if it's okay" nonsense - you must come again." The mamasan was also very nice to me as I left, and I noticed that the girl sitting out front from before was gone - a busy night for this shop it seems. Or perhaps, just "futsu" as Tomo had said.
This time, knowing exactly how I got there, I was able to re-trace my steps to leave. No more getting lost! While I was walking, I was texting a friend on my keitai, and as I passed by a shop a mamasan called out to me. I didn't get a good look, but the girl seemed pretty enough. I smiled at both to thank them for the invite, but kept on going - I'd gotten what I came for.
I think I'll take a break from Tobita for awhile. I'll probably go again next month, but same as this time, just head straight for Tomo's shop and Tomo. Why mess with a good thing? Even if, by some chance, Tomo is unavailable, I seem to be in good standing with the mamasan, and this shop looks like its got a nice selection of girls. Mongering in Japan can be hard for foreigners, but if one finds a good shop and a good girl, take it and run with it, I say.
Saint Of Killers
07-09-07, 16:24
First time post, although I've been lurking for a bit. I got into this hobby simply by drinking too much, if you can believe that. :) I'd get totally plastered and go outside of a club for some fresh air, and get coerced into FS from a random girl walking the streets outside of a club. Hey, for 10,000 - 15,000 yen, I can't complain!
Any way, some background on me... I'm Canadian-born but my background is Asian, and I have a pretty high degree of fluency in Japanese, thus I can almost always get by with the excuse of I am a "Nikkei" (Japanese-blood, born/raised outside of Japan) even though I have 0 Japanese blood in me. Having said that I can pretty much talk my way into any shop, and I can and have convinced shop owners to allow my (also) drunken friends who aren't Asian to be allowed in.
I went to a Health spot called Club Ruby in Shinsaibashi, which offers BBBJ CIM with tons of 'play' so to speak. Their rooms are fairly large and consist of a bath tub, bed, plastic floatable mat for oil play. I let the owners choose a girl for me, and I got Kumi, a nice 26 year old hottie with a nice rack and full lips. When I didn't understand what she was talking about she immediately called me out on my foreignerness, and I threw up the Nikkei excuse and she bought it, woohoo. I purchased the 40 minute Mat course which was 13,000 yen. The 30 minute course is a Health course and consists of only BBBJ CIM, whereas the Mat courses start off with a bath, then 69, then BBBJ CIM
Any way, Kumi was a dream to be with! She washed me down nicely, everywhere (there was a reason for this too!), while filling the bathtub, and then we got into the tub and she started going down on me slowly, then started to do some titty-fucking in the tub. She then got the mat out, lathered it up with oil and we proceeded to "play" on it, which meant a lot of DFK, 69 and fingering. She eventually got me to the bed, where I sat down and watched her blow me until I came. All in all, a good experience, even though this was my first time in a 'real' health salon. The other times i've gone hobbying have been while drunk, and realizing that getting any tail that night was futile, haha.
It seems that Club Ruby may allow foreigners alone in there, but just to be safe you may want to bring a Japanese friend with you. I haven't tried going there with any of my friends but if I do I'll confirm it.
How about posting the address and directions of this Club Ruby
KJ
First time post, although I've been lurking for a bit. I got into this hobby simply by drinking too much, if you can believe that. :) I'd get totally plastered and go outside of a club for some fresh air, and get coerced into FS from a random girl walking the streets outside of a club. Hey, for 10,000 - 15,000 yen, I can't complain!
Any way, some background on me... I'm Canadian-born but my background is Asian, and I have a pretty high degree of fluency in Japanese, thus I can almost always get by with the excuse of I am a "Nikkei" (Japanese-blood, born/raised outside of Japan) even though I have 0 Japanese blood in me. Having said that I can pretty much talk my way into any shop, and I can and have convinced shop owners to allow my (also) drunken friends who aren't Asian to be allowed in.
I went to a Health spot called Club Ruby in Shinsaibashi, which offers BBBJ CIM with tons of 'play' so to speak. Their rooms are fairly large and consist of a bath tub, bed, plastic floatable mat for oil play. I let the owners choose a girl for me, and I got Kumi, a nice 26 year old hottie with a nice rack and full lips. When I didn't understand what she was talking about she immediately called me out on my foreignerness, and I threw up the Nikkei excuse and she bought it, woohoo. I purchased the 40 minute Mat course which was 13,000 yen. The 30 minute course is a Health course and consists of only BBBJ CIM, whereas the Mat courses start off with a bath, then 69, then BBBJ CIM
Any way, Kumi was a dream to be with! She washed me down nicely, everywhere (there was a reason for this too!), while filling the bathtub, and then we got into the tub and she started going down on me slowly, then started to do some titty-fucking in the tub. She then got the mat out, lathered it up with oil and we proceeded to "play" on it, which meant a lot of DFK, 69 and fingering. She eventually got me to the bed, where I sat down and watched her blow me until I came. All in all, a good experience, even though this was my first time in a 'real' health salon. The other times i've gone hobbying have been while drunk, and realizing that getting any tail that night was futile, haha.
It seems that Club Ruby may allow foreigners alone in there, but just to be safe you may want to bring a Japanese friend with you. I haven't tried going there with any of my friends but if I do I'll confirm it.
A simple Google search turned up this: http://www.club-ruby.com/shop.html
Correct me if I'm wrong, SOK. There could certainly be more than one "club ruby."
Saint Of Killers
07-10-07, 14:23
Oops. :) Here you go
Chuo-ku, Nishi Shinsaibashi 2-chome
Phone # is 06-6212-7500
Website is http://club-ruby.com
Krikey,
Girls don't want you to touch their pussy because your fingernails contain all kinds of dirt and harmful bacteria; therefore, don't think that her cooch was dirty, but she was taking precaution against the likelihood of your fingers being unclean. Think about it, would any woman say, "don't touch my pussy, it's infected."??? Certainly not. A woman would say, especially in this business, don't touch my shit with your filthy hands.
Happy hobbying
Krikey,
Girls don't want you to touch their pussy because your fingernails contain all kinds of dirt and harmful bacteria; therefore, don't think that her cooch was dirty, but she was taking precaution against the likelihood of your fingers being unclean. Think about it, would any woman say, "don't touch my pussy, it's infected."??? Certainly not. A woman would say, especially in this business, don't touch my shit with your filthy hands.
Happy hobbyingYou're exactly right, Ed. My only concern was the bandage on her lower belly and how she said this was due to some kind of bacterial infection she had received. No doubt from some ill-mannered SOB like myself for whom a wipe-down with an oshibori wasn't enough.
Back in Osaka and decided to try フリージア thanks to a couple reports a little while back.
Found the building OK using the map from the website. It is door #5 on the 4th floor, by the way.
Got the event price and opted to choose my own for another 1000. Three were ready, another 3 would be ready in 20 min, and another 6 much later. Most are in their 30s, about have on the heavy side, but a decent choice nonetheless.
I chose 31yr old Ana and the 90min course for 14,200 (hotel included with that pric), and was not dissapointed by her large bust and incredible technique. Had a quick washdown and a little teasing in the shower, then the longest BBBJ w/AR in my life (about 45 min), then a short recovery and another HJ leading to BBBJ CIM. She was pretty much the GFE, and I am tempted to ask for her again.
I was the 3rd foreigner she'd had apparently. Guy in the shop didn't seem to blink when I walked in, but if you don't speak Japanese I am not sure how far you'll get.
Saint Of Killers
07-25-07, 19:03
Went to Amour in Shinsaibashi, which is a health parlor that's actually across the street from Club Ruby, the last place I reported.
This place was a little bit cheaper, but only by 2,000 yen or so. I chose a 40 minute health course with Rui. Cute girl, with a nice rack but seemed very tired and/or not in the mood today. She didn't want to talk alot, so she basically got to work early. After a scrubdown and some play in the tub we headed to the bed where she gave BBBJ and eventually into 69. Unlike Kumi from Club Ruby, Rui wasn't all that great. It was by the numbers, unlike Kumi who actually wanted to DFK and play around a little. For the price (11,000 yen) it was alright but I guess I was kind of foolish to expect more. :(
info: http://club-amour.com
tel: 06-6213-5599
Amour seems less stringent than Club Ruby was. They immediately noticed that I was not native Japanese but they were still convinced by the Nikkei excuse. Plus the fact that I spoke good enough japanese got me in. Non-asian foreigners proceed with caution as they may not allow you, but you never know... someone oughta try :)
Surfed around and found a hotel health place in Osaka. The women--all of them--on it were unbelievable. Figured I'the give it a shot. This was my first and second mistake.
Doubt they were hot? You be the judge: www.lei-maria.com
I call them up and ask for a reservation. The guys asks which girl, I tell him my first two choices, but then have to explain that my request is for the next day. He says to order for the next day I have to call back after eight p. M.
The website says 7pm is when next-day orders are filled, so I call back at 730. The guy says to call back at 8 pm, as the 7pm pre-ordering is for members only. Okay.
I call back at 8. He says it's not eight but 7:58. Please call back in two minutes.
Hmm. I wait another half hour and call. Now he knows me, and we get down to the arrangements. I order the girl--my first choice is immediately available. For 23, 000 yen I can choose the girl and get the hotel room for an hour. Sure. I chose Yurina, by the way, though Ran is hands-down my type. Then again which of those women are not.
This is all in Japanese. I'm beginning to be proud of myself for going this far. He then asks, very very politely, if I might be a foreigner. Warning bells go off. "Why? " I ask. He hems and haws then says "Okay, please nevermind, I see you must be Japanese" or something to that effect.
I don't correct him. Third mistake.
You see where this is going.
Next day my appt. Is for 11:15 a. M. At a certain train exit. He tells me to call back and confirm at 10: 15.
So I sleep on it. I gird myself for the worst, assuming this is all going to fail. It does in case you're wondering.
At 10: 15 I'm there. It's hot out. I call and confirm. I don't say I've arrived since I want to find the place (though I eventually cannot.) On the phone he says call back about ten minutes before the appointment. I hang around for a while inside the a/see of a convenience store. I'm beginning to feel like an idiot.
I call back right before. He seems happy to hear from me. I've told him my name is "Ken. " This is a neutral-sounding name--could be an English-speaking national or Japanese. I have patted myself on the back for this bit of slyness.
Then comes the tangle. He gives me directions to the place. I don't understand half of what he says. I eventually--fifteen minutes into the appointed time--get very near the location, after three phone calls from the guy to my mobile.
I imagine the girl I've chosen, who might be in the office standing there in her inappropriate evening dress and perfume, ready for her guy--me. She must be getting antsy. Nothing compared to my own antsiness, I'm sure.
I get halfway down a certain block. There is a young guy in black pants, a white shirt, and black tie. The official uniform of the men involved in such businesses, I guess.
He sees me on the phone with the direction-giving operator, and I see a look cross his face. Not a good look. I hang up. The white shirt guy begins sending a text message. He asks if I'm Ken, and I say yes. He smiles. But not a good smile.
More hemming and hawing. He asks me what country I'm from. He apologizes to me and, seeing I'm hot, takes me to the inside lobby of a nearby love hotel and buys me a drink from a vending machine. He insists he will pay and does--albeit only 110 yen. But it's a nice gesture.
He apologizes and says foreigners are not allowed. I ask why, nicely. I thank him for the drink. He says it's the shop policy. I ask if it's because of language, or body type. He says no, no. He gives an explanation I cannot understand, but I think the gist is these are just the rules.
We stand there like that for almost 15 minutes. I try every polite strategy I can. In the end he compliments me on my Japanese, apologizes profusely, says he will give the girl my regrets (I told him it was a waste for her to be waiting and not get a job.) He says she'll be fine. He refuses my offer of the full fare for what would now be half the time. He says money is, alas, not the issue.
I ask if a smelly salaryman came would he be allowed. He says yes, maybe, but maybe not. He says drunks aren't allowed though. I ask if even a famous foreigner came would he be allowed. He said "Hm, so desu ne. " He says they wouldn't' be. But he says no famous foreigners have ever tried.
In the end he says he'll explain my situation and advocate for foreigners to the upper levels. Yawn. I can see how effective that will be already, but this guy has been very polite. Excruciatingly so.
I shake his hand and bid him bye bye. He seems truly sorry. He watches me walk off.
I can't help but wonder what would happen if I had actually made it in the door of the shop and seen the girl. I'm no judge of guys, but I'm no slouch. But of course one wonders these things. It would probably have been exactly the same, but in a refreshing A/see environment.
So. Long story long. I went to Tobita later. Honoka is a sweet, though short girl who is very attentive.
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Hi Crikey - wow, what an "unbelievable" collection of gorgeous women. Maybe that was too much to hope for. You didn't get in and got treated badly to boot, but I am highly suspicious that any derihesu outfit can really have that caliber of babes on call. Sorry about your bad experience, but it should be a heads-up for the rest of us.
SD
Hi Crikey - wow, what an "unbelievable" collection of gorgeous women. Maybe that was too much to hope for. You didn't get in and got treated badly to boot, but I am highly suspicious that any derihesu outfit can really have that caliber of babes on call.
Why? For the right price, of course they can. And you`ll notice that this place is not cheap.
Also, keep in mind that a good photographer can make almost every girl look good. I say if i.e. Club Boo hired professional photographer, they could present their girls in the same way. So there.
Azure Knight
08-04-07, 07:28
This is why I'm hesistant in using delivery health. I'm confident in my Japanese abilities, but once the girl actually shows, who knows what'll happen. I've got Tobita and a couple of pink salons I can go to, that's enough for me.
Speaking of Tobita, a funny story (well, I'm amused by it). I met up with a girl I met online. Turns out that she's a total sex freak. Nice. We were talking about lots of various different stuff, and out of nowhere she asks me if I've ever been to Tobita. I was kind of shocked that she knew about it. I, of course, denied that I'd ever been. She told me that she went once, just to see what was up. She said that the selection of women was quite gorgeous, and considering the price, the services, and the line up of girls, Tobita was probably the best deal in Japan.
I wanted to say "you're preaching to the choir!" but I tactfully kept my mouth shut.
Drewtothedew2
08-04-07, 14:37
greetings-
does anyone know about the apollo building, or apollo 1 building in tennoji (i think.)? i have heard it has several floors with 'shows', but i can't confirm. as i live in kobe, i would be willing to give it a go, but would be much more willing if i knew a little more about it. thanks in advance.
on a separate note, just got back from a trip to tokyo. i'm a happily married man, so my options are limited as i don't want to cause trouble at home. settled for a 'nozoki', a peep show, in shinjuku. 1500 yen to get in, with a 2000 yen hand job. kind of fun, in a get-back-to-basics kind of way. truly a japanese experience, as they managed to combine the erotic (the simulated masturbation of the model) with the business like 'oneigashimasu---otsukaresamadeshita' of the hand job provider.
any place like that in osaka?
by the way, enjoy az knight's postings, along with others. keep up the good work, as i live vicariously through you all. lol.
drew
Hi guys,
I'm a frenchy and unfortunatly my Japanese level is so lower than my English one. So imagine!
Well I can notice that many of you can speak pretty good japanese and many say that it should be good to speak Japanese a little bit to get a chance to be accepted in some Soaplands. But what is "little bit"? Do you mean just some words like: " Sumimasen watashiha furansujindesu, daijobudesuka"?
I am just a beginner in Japanese. I just know how to "decode" kanas and express some basics thing but still unperfectly (as you can notice! ).
Is it enough to be accepted?
Further I still hesitate between soapland and "deliheru". To get FS which is the best and for an equivalent price? If I chose the "deliheru" will I be refused as I'm a gaijin also? Can staff speak english on the phone when ordering?
I have to go to Osaka several times a year and no way to be "jobless" there! If someone can help me to reserve a gal for "DH" service it would great!
Thanks for your help.
Cheers
OldAsiaHand
08-18-07, 05:44
Although I have been to Osaka a couple of times, I did not find an opportunity to monger.
I will be spending a few days there next month and will have quite a bit of free time on my hands over a weekend.
I have RTFF but have a couple of questions:
Tobita: I reckon I can find the area based on the directions posted, however, are there any specific streets or concentrations of foreigner friendly girls I should look for? I speak no Japanese.
Club Amour vs. Club Ruby: Which one is the best chance for me? Is any specific time better than others? It looks like they offer a special discount at certain times. Is this a daytime rate? I could not tell exactly from their websites. Are there any other similar "guaranteed" foreigner friendly places?
Other mongering options: Is there anything else I should not miss in Osaka? For example, I enjoy the BJ places in Sugamo in Tokyo. Does the same exist in Osaka? Does Osaka offer anything else special not found in other places in Japan?
Finally, if any resident or visiting mongers want to hook-up and show a newbie the ropes, PM me for dates.
Thanks.
OAH
Although I have been to Osaka a couple of times, I did not find an opportunity to monger.
I will be spending a few days there next month and will have quite a bit of free time on my hands over a weekend.
I have RTFF but have a couple of questions:
Tobita: I reckon I can find the area based on the directions posted, however, are there any specific streets or concentrations of foreigner friendly girls I should look for? I speak no Japanese.
OAH
OAH- In the 4 or 5 visists I have made to Tobita, I have not found any street or concentration of houses friendlier to gaijin. There is a concentration of houses along the street furthest to the north that tends to have the prettiest girls (IMHO), and these tended to be less available... but I would just wander around until I found something I liked and that liked me too... if you spent 15 minutes walking, you would certainly have covered the whole neighborhood quite well.
Azure Knight
08-18-07, 20:09
Waitan,
You'll find that Japan is a funny country for mongering. Your ethnicity counts for more than your Japanese level. I can speak fluent Japanese, but if a place has decided they don't accept foreigners, there's little to nothing I can say to convince them otherwise.
As far as I know, there aren't any DH services in Osaka that accept foreigners and have English support. Soaplands are a pretty exclusive club as well.
If you really want to go to a soapland/DH, my recommendation would be to find a Japanese guy (or an Asian guy with good enough Japanese) to kind of act as your sponsor. If you go together, he can vouch for you. Some places would be more willing to accept a foreigner if you have that Japanese sponsor guy.
For mongering in Osaka, your best bet is probably Tobita, or picking up freebies from bars/clubs/right there on the street. Use your basic Japanese to ask a cute girl on the street for directions to some place - see if you can't get her back to your hotel room by the end of the night.
Hi guys,
I'm a frenchy and unfortunatly my Japanese level is so lower than my English one. So imagine!
Well I can notice that many of you can speak pretty good japanese and many say that it should be good to speak Japanese a little bit to get a chance to be accepted in some Soaplands. But what is "little bit"? Do you mean just some words like: " Sumimasen watashiha furansujindesu, daijobudesuka"?
I am just a beginner in Japanese. I just know how to "decode" kanas and express some basics thing but still unperfectly (as you can notice! ).
Is it enough to be accepted?
Further I still hesitate between soapland and "deliheru". To get FS which is the best and for an equivalent price? If I chose the "deliheru" will I be refused as I'm a gaijin also? Can staff speak english on the phone when ordering?
I have to go to Osaka several times a year and no way to be "jobless" there! If someone can help me to reserve a gal for "DH" service it would great!
Thanks for your help.
Cheers
Azure Knight
08-18-07, 20:19
OAH,
Your best bet for mongering in Osaka is probably Tobita. It might just be one of the best places in Japan, period.
The directions are easy enough. Take the Yotsubashi line to Hanazonocho, it's maybe a 10-15 minute walk from the station. Once you are in the Tobita district though, you may want to make some visual markers or something, as I've gotten lost within the district twice.
As Stew said, there doesn't seem to be any particular street that's more open to foreigners. There is that main street where the girls are exceptionally incredible, and while it does seem like your chances would be less there, that is where I found my Tomo. I know her shop accepts foreigners at least, and aside from Tomo there's another stunner working there (if you don't mind fake tits).
I would recommend going early - mid-day to late afternoon. Basically, to avoid the "crowd" so to speak, because if the mamasan has to choose from any one of a number of Japanese guys walking around, or you, she's going for the Japanese guy 100% of the time. If business however is sparse, she may be more open to soliciting you.
Although I have been to Osaka a couple of times, I did not find an opportunity to monger.
I will be spending a few days there next month and will have quite a bit of free time on my hands over a weekend.
I have RTFF but have a couple of questions:
Tobita: I reckon I can find the area based on the directions posted, however, are there any specific streets or concentrations of foreigner friendly girls I should look for? I speak no Japanese.
Club Amour vs. Club Ruby: Which one is the best chance for me? Is any specific time better than others? It looks like they offer a special discount at certain times. Is this a daytime rate? I could not tell exactly from their websites. Are there any other similar "guaranteed" foreigner friendly places?
Other mongering options: Is there anything else I should not miss in Osaka? For example, I enjoy the BJ places in Sugamo in Tokyo. Does the same exist in Osaka? Does Osaka offer anything else special not found in other places in Japan?
Finally, if any resident or visiting mongers want to hook-up and show a newbie the ropes, PM me for dates.
Thanks.
OAH
Well I can notice that many of you can speak pretty good japanese and many say that it should be good to speak Japanese a little bit to get a chance to be accepted in some Soaplands. But what is "little bit"? Do you mean just some words like: " Sumimasen watashi ha furansu-jin desu, daijobu desu ka"? Is it enough to be accepted?
No. You must use Sonkeigo.
Gyaos.
Hi guys!I just moved to Osaka from May and it has been like 4 years since I lived here last time. Back then I did'nt have ISG to guide myself, but everybody knows that in Nanba and Shinsaibashi you can get anything. Nevertheless, I must admit I feel a bit strange in a big city after living in several smaller ones the last 4 years.
Well, one of my friends from another city came to Osaka to visit me and we decided to monger around. It was pretty early when we started and we went first to Umeda, just hang around. It was 4-5pm and there were not so many places that were open, and we got rejected from those that were open since my friend looks too gaijin(we are latin american, but I am half-japanese and I can speak pretty good japanese, so sometimes japanese touts just don't care).
Finally, we decided to enter to one of the Kabakura that was located just into the Higashi-dori Shotengai. It was on a second floor and there was no people, so they were pretty happy to admit us there. It was 6000yen for nomihodai/90min, and since it was hot, we decided to have some drinks there first. We both went to separate places, and three girls changed turns. The first one was pretty cool, though she was kinda older (around 30 something), but I kinda enjoyed a good time with her. Rules were that we should have some talk at the begining, and you can later see and touch breast. Honestly, was my first time in one place like this, so mostly I enjoyed drinking and talking. The last two girls where a bit ugly, but nice body (I am a tit guy by the way). My friend and I had a good time and went a bit drunk looking for another place.
We ended in Nanba, just outside of the Tenmaya Store. He saw some time ago one strip club not so far from there by the shotengai. We went there and since it was 7pm it costed around 4000yen for 90min nomihodai. I dont remember the name now, but have one card with it somewhere if someone wants to know about it. Later inside, it was other 2000yen for snacks. Although we were not hungry, we had to get one for each of us, policy of the place. The girls were really HOT, with really small bikinis and g-strings. It was 2000yen for tips, and 7000yen for private show. It has also a mid-show every hour, but it is just dancing without showing anything. I actually did not liked it, but my friend was kinda happy there. He had to take a bullet-train back home, so it was my last place with him.
Well, I decided to go alone to Sam&Dave Nagahoribashi, to try something there. It was kinda empty since it was Tuesday. The barman, who was a Canadian girl, was kinda nice. I started to drink with the staff and trying to get some talking with people, and then was when I got drunk. I really hate to get drunk alone in a bar, but I was kinda tired since the afternoon and I must admit I kinda erased some moments. It was kinda fun, just talking with the people and drinking but couldn't get concentrated enough to monger properly. I must have left the place around 4-5am very drunk, and still wanting some action.
Outside I got caught by some chinese girls. I always avoided them, since I know there is usually high cost for low action, but since I was drunk I decided a try. 7000yen for a massage with BJ for one hour. The girl that picked me up was the mamasan, kinda young I must say. She took me to a second floor, in front of the convenience store of the same street of S&D. Small rooms with massage beds, separated by wooden walls. She told me to get undress and a not so bad chinese girl arrived. Now, I actually don't go for a BJ, I rather prefer intercourse. She got undress, cute body, started with a HJ and then put me a condom. She did her best but since I was drunk, I couldn't finish. My hour passed and she tried twice, and then she said it was over and call the mamasan. I complained since I didn't finished (I would never do that sober!). She asked me if I wanted real sex, and I said "yes, of course", and she said it will be other 10000yen more for 1 hour. I accepted and she brought a HOT chinese girl. We kinda play a bit but the bed was too small and I was too drunk. She got into bussiness then, but couldn't finish with her on top. We changed position and 20min later I finished. As soon as she noticed it, she got up and said it was only one time, and I started complaining. Well, the mamasan came in and said it was the system... anyway, I was already finished and tired, so I said it was ok. The mamasan gave me quite a good massage until my time was up and I came back home.
It was a long night, and I think I had fun... I don't like to put much money into this but it was kinda good for exploring and my friend had fun too.
Some days later I tried to find Freejia but ended into another Health. I will write about it another day. If anyone wants to just monger around and try new places let me know. Once in a month I like this kind of experience.
Good Luck!
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Hey Guys,
Just came across these sites online. Never been there and don't know if gaikoku jin will be able to make it in:
Anal Girls (with nama nakadashi)
http://www.af-sentai.net/top.php
Lactating and fat chicks
http://m-milk.com/girlslist.php
Good luck,
Rene
I'm back in Osaka for a while now and decided to check out Matsushima, because it's a bit nearer to my apartment. I found it easily based on the directions in a previous post.
It's definitely smaller than Tobita and has a smaller % of top shelf girls. Not everyone invited me, but there were still about 4 that I was choosing from since I look for both 7.5-9 looks and a big welcoming smile from the girl. After I tried talking to three of them (the fourth was now occupied), I settled on a thin young girl named Suki.
She spoke no English and since I speak only some works in Japanese, we didn't do much communicating. This made the interaction a bit awkward, but i still had a great time.
She was about 20-22, thin, with dark skin and bleached hair. A pretty although somewhat angular face. She wore short little dress and back bra and panty set with pink lace. But she came out of this quickly, because we when to share a shower.
I started making out with her in the shower. When we got back, I ate her almost completely shaved pussy while she moaned and thrashed around. Then I stood up so she could give me some CBJ on her knees. I fucked her for the rest of the time in a number of positions and when the bell rang I pulled out and shot my load on her pussy and belly.
She cleaned me up and then we headed back to the shower.
All in all a good time. 20min for 10,000 yen, so a better deal than Tobita.
Anal Girls (with nama nakadashi)
http://www.af-sentai.net/top.php
Whoa. For those who are unsure, "nama nakadashi" is bareback anal to completion. Even if this shop DOES accept gaijin, I'd steer far clear - this place is an HIV time bomb.
Shrappy2007
09-03-07, 04:45
Hi all,
I am from the big Aus. I often visit working ladies (as I call them out of respect) however I have lived in Osaka for 3 yrs and never tried it. I guess the lang and the fact that I'm worried about me being gaijin I won't be accepted anywhere. I know this might seem a bit strange. But is anyone interested in taking me under their wing hehe and showing me the good places. I think once I find a regular place I will be fine. I just have to get my foot in the door
Also I wanted to ask does anyone know of any nice/cheap hotels that offer in house massages that are almost 100% chance of hand j or head j or fs.
My email/msn is [Email address deleted by Admin]
Thnx for ya time.
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Had a chance to visit Kobe for the first time in a long while. Can confirm the at the soapland area near Kobe station is still anti-foreigners, as I walked slowly past a dozen touts and didn't get a single irrashaimase...same goes for the pink zone on the north side of Sannomiya station.
Did have an excellent 50 minute massage for about 7,000 from a Taiwanese. I forget the name of the place, but it is in the midst of the pink salon alley on the right side just up from the Hankyu Sannomiya station.
Unfortunatey, she tried to upsell a HJ for 8,000 and dropped it to 5,000, but I said I wasn't interested (plus that is overpriced anyway for an add-on of a HJ). I complained that I prefered to have all the business done up front like in Japanese shops, but she said her boss instructs them to offer the additional services as the massage is ending.
Map (either here on on alley over to the west). http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?lat=34%2F41%2F25.125&lon=135%2F11%2F42.027&layer=0&ac=28110&mode=map&size=s&type=static&pointer=on&sc=2
The second experience was at MIYAKO. This is a massage/HJ place only-no touching. That said, you get a shower, excellent 45 minute massage from a pretty 20-something J-gal, and an incredible HJ all for 10,000. My gal was quite chatty and friendly and I could see myself asking her out were I around more. Foreigners are welcome-just be sure you understand the no-touch rule. You can become a member after your first visit and get 1,000 off and make bookings in advance-adviseable as this place can be packed after 5pm.
Address yamate dori1-16-15 yoshimurabuilding B1
tel 078-333-1615
Walk up from Hankyu station, cross the fist main street and search the alleyways for a corner building with sign and a stairway leading downstairs...
Map (general area only I am afraid):
http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?lat=34%2F41%2F29.02&lon=135%2F11%2F43.201&layer=0&sc=1&ac=28110&mode=map&type=static&pointer=on&size=l
Shrappy2007
09-03-07, 13:32
Hi,
I live in osaka, I use to go alot to SW in australia my home country but here I havnt had the chance. Lang and being white doesnt help. I was wondering if anyone wanted to meet up some time and show me the ropes on where the good places are that accept gaijin. I have lived in japan for 3 yrs.
Also if anyone knows. I want to find out if there are any hotels that do inhouse massages that are almost 100% chance of hand j or head j or fs.
Thnx pm me please.
Does anyone know the street scene in Osaka these days. There were some reports a few years back about Latinas and Thai's in the Umeda area. I've been looking around in the places mentioned, but haven't seen anything.
I definitely like to find those Thai girls, so if anyone knows their new spot, let us know.
OldAsiaHand
09-08-07, 13:07
Gentlemen,
I will be in Osaka next weekend. If any fellow mongers would like to hook-up and show an Osaka newbie the ropes, PM me.
Thanks.
OAH
Jung At Heart
09-09-07, 16:58
Does anyone know the street scene in Osaka these days. There were some reports a few years back about Latinas and Thai's in the Umeda area. I've been looking around in the places mentioned, but haven't seen anything.
I last spotted the gaggle of curvy Columbians about a year ago. In May, they were all gone, cleaned out. If you want Thais, you can get fixed up through one of the older women idling around.
They will ask you if you want ¥8,000 all you can drink, but if you say you want a girl, "onna to asobitai" they will call a pimp at one of the clubs and arrange to meet a girl from their bar at one of the ubiquitous love hotels. ¥10,000 for 30 minutes or 20,000 for an hour.
Just to follow up on Jung's helpful info...
I wandered around the area mentioned in the previous posts the other night around 1am and noticed a bunch of Asian street walkers. Most of them looked Chinese but some of them could have been Thai. A few were cute, but no stunners.
I negotiated with one cutie for a 30 min massage for 3,000. We went to a place in the restaurant section to the south west of the intersection and she brought me upstairs. The room was separated with curtains and I could hear some other dude getting serviced right next to the area where she brought me.
She told me that I had to keep my pants on, so I said I wasn't interested and she gave me my money back. She followed me out and then grabbed my hand and whispered something in my ear. Since I speak almost no Japanese, she had to write out on her hand that I could have sex for 15,000.
I didn't have the cash on me and wasn't all that interested anyway, so I took off.
Saint Of Killers
09-13-07, 15:44
Does anyone know if the video booth in Umeda (right behind HEP5) offer any special HJ/BJ services? It's the "I love video" video booth that's beside the Monte Arcade/Yoshinoya, across the street from Tsutaya. I'm gonna be going out with some friends for karaoke/drinks on Saturday night, but in the event that I miss my last train, that's going to be where I'll be resting, and I'd like to know if they can provide me with any relaxing services. ;)
I went there once just to check the available videos. I saw only video films there. I did not see anything about special services, but maybe they give if you ask.
OldAsiaHand
09-15-07, 07:02
Shrappy.
I am in Osaka this weekend for 3 days if you want to hook-up. I tried to PM you, but you are not a paid member. Sign up and PM me if you want to hook-up.
OAH
Hi,
I live in osaka, I use to go alot to SW in australia my home country but here I havnt had the chance. Lang and being white doesnt help. I was wondering if anyone wanted to meet up some time and show me the ropes on where the good places are that accept gaijin. I have lived in japan for 3 yrs.
Also if anyone knows. I want to find out if there are any hotels that do inhouse massages that are almost 100% chance of hand j or head j or fs.
Thnx pm me please.
OldAsiaHand
09-15-07, 17:09
I made my debut visit to Tobita today. It reminds me of the RLD in Seoul or Amsterdam, but the old mamasans give it a different twist. I am curious what the deal is with the mamasans. How does it work?
My call rate was pretty low, but I only focussed on the ones that I would consider doing. The best quality were definitely off limits for me. I did not get anywhere near the 50% call rate that fellow mongers have posted, probably closer to 30%.
I walked around for a couple of hours window shopping. I noticed the turnover was very high after 7:00PM. Nearly half the girls were occupied at a given time. How many punters does one girl do a day?
I picked a girl that I would say was about a 7. Opted for the 11,000 for 15 minutes. The service was pretty mechanical; CBJ, cowgirl, mish, and doggy. After I popped, she cleaned me up, got dressed immediately and walked out before the bell.
I guess you cannot expect much in Japan for 11,000 yen, but I must say that the experience was below my expectations considering all the posts on this thread saying how great a place Tobita is. Did I do something wrong?
Just my POV.
OAH
I guess you cannot expect much in Japan for 11,000 yen, but I must say that the experience was below my expectations considering all the posts on this thread saying how great a place Tobita is. Did I do something wrong?
Just my POV.
OAH
OAH - The only thing you did wrong was not enjoy yourself. Tobita may just not be your thing. I have always found it an interesting scene, but not usually an outstanding sexual experience.
Azure Knight
09-16-07, 12:37
OAH - It's a shame that your weekend in Osaka is this one - I'm actually not in Japan at the moment. Although, walking around with me would probably decrease your chances in Tobita.
It was actually my second time in Tobita/third girl before I struck gold. My call rate was pretty low (less than 5%, if that...) so I was really forced to take only what I could get. That's sort of representative of the scene in Japan in general - only what they'll let you have. It's awful, but those are the cards we've been dealt. The upside is that it's probably exponentially easier for us to pick up random girls on the street/in bars and clubs than it would be for your average Japanese guy.
I would recommend going a lot earlier in the day. 7PM onward is prime time - and if a Mamasan has to choose between you and a Japanese guy, she's gonna go Japanese 100% of the time. It's much better to go when the pickings are sparse - when its a not a matter of who they want to get their 11 000 yen from, but if they're going to get it at all.
The girl I frequent, Tomo - I usually ask her jokingly if I'm her first customer of the day. Equally as good-spirited, she asks me if she's that ugly. I get there around 6:45~7 on a weekday, and I'm usually customer #4 or 5 for her. She's in the upscale district, and she herself is a knockout, so that's not too surprising.
I remember one day, I was the 4th customer, and I asked her about her previous 3 - 1 Japanese, 1 Chinese and 1 Australian. So her place does seem to accept foreigners. I do distinctly remember having walked down that street though and not getting one call. During our first meeting, I remember Tomo saying that she preferred foreigners, and since the mamasan doesn't actively call out to them, she'll try to make eye contact, send them a wink or a smile to get them to come over.
I think, the next time I go out to see her, I'm going to ask her what she knows about Tobita and their foreigner acceptance - if there are other shops like hers that we can get into, or if there are some sort of secret signals from the girls that we're completely missing out on. I'd like to help my fellow monger, as well as myself - Tomo's wonderful, but I'm feeling the urge to butterfly a bit. Aside from Tomo's place, there are only a handful of places I can actually go to, which are all but eliminated if you factor in whether I want to spend money on the girl or not. There is another smoking hot girl who works at Tomo's place - I've often considered "accidentally" going there on Tomo's day off, and just saying "Well, since I'm here..." I'm not sure if that violates some kind of working girl code of honor though.
OldAsiaHand
09-16-07, 15:17
Azure Knight/Stew 2:
My call rate in the upscale district, after 7:00PM, was probably less than 5% too. I was also taking into account the shops off the main drag with the fat, ugly, older, girls in my 30% figure and that I arrived around 5:30PM and window shopped for a couple of hours. There were only 2-3 girls available to me that I would have done. The call rate did decrease dramatically as the place got busier with local clientele.
I did not ask my girl her name, but she was taller with red shoulder length hair and a C cup. The place was about half way down on the main drag. IMHO, the service I got was typical of a BBS girl in China without the shower. Off with the clothes, a few minutes BJ, followed by FS in multiple positions. The big difference is that it was 5X the price.
I did enjoy myself, especially walking up and down the roads, checking out all the talent and watching the action. I am the type that takes forever to make a decision always thinking I will find a better one. When I went back for the girls I wanted, they were occupied.
I will definitely go back again and give it another shot. I am used to the rejection. RLD in Seoul is the same thing.
OAH
P.S. I've seen you guys posting in China. If you find yourself in S. China, give me a shout.
Although there are fewer houses in Matsushima, there are usually two or three girls in each one, so the numbers are closer to those in Tobita than it would at first appear. On the other hand, the girls usually sit behind a little counter, so you can't see their bodies. There are some hot girls here but its mostly 6.5-8 range, very few real beauties. In Matsushima, you get 20 mins for 10,000, 30 min for 15,000. You take a shower and the clock starts after you get back to the room.
I think the call rate in Tobita depends on a lot of factors. I usually only pick a place where the mamasan says "dozo" and the girl is giving me a nice big smile. There are some places where the girl looks excited but the mamasan does not call out, but I haven't tried any of these (although based on AK's post, I will). I'm short for a white guy (5'8"), but I guess I look Japanese from behind, because there are plenty of times when the mamasan will call out "dozo" and then as soon as she gets a good look at me, she'll sputter a rejection in disgust.
I was in Tobita on a Friday afternoon last week and I was getting a high call rate, 60-70%. (I don't even bother with the side streets.) The girls were so fucking hot it was too bad I didn't have time to stop.
On the other hand, I was there again on Sat night around 10:30 and the place was hopping. The streets were full of cars, vans and packs of J-dudes checking out the girls. I was probably only getting called by one or two houses per block (again only in the central area). Now, the mamasans who were calling were really aggressive because they wanted to make sure I knew it was me being called and not the J-dudes who were always around. Despite these low odds, I ended up fucking one of the hottest girls I've ever had. Apparently there's no shower in Tobita, even with this muggy weather. She just wiped off my cock with a sanitary napkin and stuck it in her mouth. It was full GFE with kissing and bbbj, and coved fucking in a number of different positions. The sex was nothing spectacular, but the girl was so hot - with smooth white skin, beautiful perky handful-sized tits, a thin waist, big black eyes and anime hair - that I've been thinking about her all week.
Before I went home, I walked around a bit more just to see who else is there. A few girls recognized me from my Friday stroll and I thought about going for another round, or maybe coming back in a few weeks to see one of them. I saw the girl I fucked a few more times and she gave me a big smile each time, so I wouldn't worry about not banging two girls in the same house.
Apparently there is another little LDR called Imazato Shinchi which is supposedly a Korean area in Ikuno Ward. Anyone know any details?
Clipped from Rising Sun of Nihon:
There are at least 10 red light districts in the Kansai area near Osaka.
1. Tobita (80-90 shops)
2. Matsushima Shinchi (70 Shops)
3. Imazato Shinchi (30 shops)
4. Kannami Shinchi (30-40 shops)
5. Shintaizan Shinchi (30 shops)
6. Gojo Rakuen (15 shops)
7. Ikoma City (10 shops)
8. Takii Shinchi (10 shops)
9. Tenno Shinchi (5 shops)
Azure Knight
09-17-07, 14:32
I don't think you're going to find FS in Japan for less than 10 000 yen. The BJ bars/health salons advertise 5000 yen for 30 minutes or so, but in order to get FS you're going to have to buy more "time", which will put you over the 10 000 mark. Even if you do buy the "time", a lot of it will be wasted with the girl's repeated trips to the bathroom, and her trying to talk to you.
Not to mention that even if we were willing to throw fistfuls of cash at touts and mamasan, there are plenty of them who just wouldn't accept us foreigners no matter what. Unfortunately, these places always seem to have the best looking woman. We're stuck with having to accept only what they'll let us have.
It's why the mongering scene in Japan is so frustrating. If only we were Japanese, or at least could pass for Japanese, a whole world of great services would be available. On the other hand, freebies are a lot easier for us than they would be in other countries.
I do miss Thailand though.
Azure Knight
09-25-07, 04:03
Apparently there is another little LDR called Imazato Shinchi which is supposedly a Korean area in Ikuno Ward. Anyone know any details?
Clipped from Rising Sun of Nihon:
This is interesting. I know I've personally zeroed-in on Tobita, but I'm curious about these other places, especially the call rates. Has anyone else been out to any of these places? Does anyone want to go?
This place is fun if you like to look, which I don't. http://www.apollo-1bld.com/Tel_0120081181.html However, if you are drunk it is much better. We went for a birthday party last month, and we are going again tomorrow, so if you want to join us, let me know.
Last month we went to the fifth floor and got an all-you-can-drink, 2 hour for ¥7,000. We were trashed, and the second party at the Royal Host was, as my office's intern put it: "bowling shoe ugly".
Tomorrow we have another ¥7,000 all-you-can-drink, NO TIME LIMIT deal. I explained to the guy that we are some serious drinkers, and he said not to worry. Admittedly, they make their money on the dances. Plus the booze is god awful cheap.
The address is Apollo Building, 2-5-19 Sakuragawa, Naniwa-ku, Osaka or 大阪市浪速区桜川2-5-19アポロビル. At the top of exit 7 of the Sakuragawa Station on the Sennichimae line, turn 90 degrees right. Go to the first corner, turn right. Go to the next cross street and the Apollo Building will be on the near corner on your left side. Have fun. You are welcome to PM me.
Ciao for now,
Mak
Ok, I found Imazato Shinchi last night (Shinimazato 3-chome, Ikuno-ku). It doesn't compare with Tobita-shinchi or the Kujou district and I was only window shopping and chatting but it was kinda cool nevertheless.
There were about 15-20 shops that are built in the same style as the other two districts but there are no girls in the front doorway - just some old ladies and pairs of slippers. At first I assumed all the girls were occupied, but then I realized that there were no men's shoes in the front area either.
The brothels and interspersed with izakayas, karaoke and hostess clubs and korean restaurants. There are Korean girls walking the street and trying to get you to come into the clubs for drinking or karaoke.
Most of the old women averted their eyes when I rode by, but a few tried to get my attention. I chatted with them and found out it was 13,000 for 30 min. But my Japanese is too poor to effectively ask them if I could see the girls be for I decided.
AK: If you want to meet up to monger around, let me know when you will be in Osaka.
Azure Knight
10-02-07, 04:19
AK: If you want to meet up to monger around, let me know when you will be in Osaka.
I work in Osaka, so theoretically, anytime. Weekday evenings probably work best for me though. And I will warn you, walking around with me probably lowers your acceptance rate, heh.
Speaking of, guess where I ended up last night? Yep. Tobita.
Now, Tomo is awesome. She's super-hot, and the sex is mind-blowing. But I have the irrepressable urge to butterfly. Especially in a place like Tobita, where there are so many gorgeous young women on display. As Tomo has told me that her day off is Monday, I thought that would be a good chance to experience something different.
My gameplan was thus: walk around a bit, see if I could get into some other shop. If I couldn't, then head to Tomo's shop. Luckily, I'm on good terms with the mamasans there. I've mentioned a few times that the other girl who works there is also pretty hot. I could go to the shop, ask for Tomo, and when the mamasan says "not here", make a production of having forgot, then say "well, since I'm here..." If for some reason Tomo was there...well, it would still be great sex with a hot girl. I figured it was win-win.
I arrived sometime around 6:45. As Tomo's shop is on the Smoking Hot Blvd, I decided to avoid that a bit, and hit the area around it. My call rate is still not that good - perhaps 5%, but as I'm in the main district, when I do get called its girls that I actually would want to have sex with. I get maybe 2 or 3 calls - the girls are attractive, but not on the level of the other girl from Tomo's shop. I keep looking.
After awhile, I've sort of circled around the same area. I don't want to spend too much time looking, so I just decide to go to Tomo's shop. However, my plan has a snag - the girl isn't there, and the mamasan's absent as well - obviously, the girl is busy, and the mamasan is using the opportunity to take a break. So, now what? As I don't really want to wait around, I keep walking.
I end up on a street perhaps a block away from Tomo's shop. I hear another soft "doozo" - I look inside to see a gorgeous girl. Brightly dyed blond hair, and contacts in her eyes to make them blue. Nice body, nice legs, wonderful, large tits. Definintely the gal type, and someone you'd expect to see in a magazine or in the model industry. I could probably never pull this type of girl outside of Tobita. I've got an invitation, and the girl is incredible - what more does a monger need? I decide on this place and go in. As I'm taking off my shoes, the mamasan quietly asks the girl if this is okay. She passively says "yeah" before heading for the stairs.
She leads me up to her room - its dark by default, and a little messy - as if this was her regular room and she hasn't bothered to clean up. She sits me down and asks about the price. I decide to go conservative with the 11,000 yen for 15 minutes route. She accepts, takes the money, and goes off. She comes back and immediately starts getting undressed. So far, she hasn't been very conversational at all. So I ask for her name - she says Mari. She does the whole "your Japanese is good" thing and I give my usual answers. She says she's been studying English because she wants to visit America one day. I ask where, and her answers are very stock and general. "Oh, you know. Los Angeles. New York." I ask in English if she can speak English, and she responds in Japanese "only a little." Mari, obviously, is not the conversational type.
So, we get to business. Mari undresses, and she is really, really incredible. This is one of the hottest women I will ever get the chance to fuck. Big, perky tits too - I wonder if they're fake? I'll find out soon enough. She has me lie on my back, and she pulls out the tissues with her disinfectant spray to clean off my cock. The very next thing she does is go for the condom - bummer, no BBBJ, but I guess I'm here for other things. Mari isn't very good at BJ's - she's of the "lick at it like a cat playing with yarn" type. Oh well, it does the trick and I get hard. I notice here that this is a typical Japanese condom, which fits me a little tight and isn't exactly comfortable.
Not long after I get hard, Mari asks to switch positions. With her lying on my back, I go after those great tits. They could be real. They felt wonderful. If they're fake, my highest praise to her surgeon. I start to move downstairs, and I feel her hand already moving on defense. I get down to eat her out, and she does indeed stop me, saying that's no good. I ask why, and she starts to explain before just settling on "no good." Oh well. I began to lick her breasts again. She does allow me to finger her. She was pretty dry at first (she didn't bother lubing up?) but after a little finger play, she was naturally wet.
Now I figured it was time to go for it. Unfortunately, the tight condom plus Mari's overall lack of enthusiasm caused me to lose my erection. Guys, you know how it goes - the more you think I HAVE to get it up, the less likely you're able to do it. I continued to suck on her wonderful breasts and finger her. I'm pretty sure she came about twice. I hear the time buzzer in the meantime - man, this is the first time those 15 minutes actually felt short. I ask Mari for a quick pick-me-up BJ, but she points out that time is over.
I would have been highly disappointed/disgusted to leave like this, so I ask if I can change to the 20 minute plan on the fly. She starts saying that I would have to buy another session with her, but I show her that I don't have that much cash on me. She takes 5000 yen and wraps a towel around her to ask the mamasan about the five minute extension thing. She comes back a minute or two later telling me that its okay.
I get on my back again, and she gives me another lick-attack BJ. Again, not a good BJ at all, but it does the trick again. This time, I have her get on top while I'm hard. She does have a nice, tight pussy, so once I'm in, I'm good. She's not bad at the regular grinding, even reaching behind her to play with my balls as she moves. I know if 15 mintues passed that quickly, then 5 are going to zoom right by, so I take control and start pounding her pretty good. She seems to be enjoying it.
After a little cowgirl I tell her to get into missionary. As expected, Mari is the typical lay there and take it type. Oh well, they can't all be sexual blowouts. (Has it been anyone else's experience that the hottest girls tend to be the worst in bed?) I'm giving it to Mari pretty good, and it looks like she's cumming - those blue-contact eyes are rolling in the back of her head, and she's desperately clutching her pillow. I hear the buzzer go off again, so I do my best to ignore the tight condom, concentrate on Mari's beautiful body, and manage to bust my nut. Mari sits up, helps me with the clean up, and is dressed pretty quickly. GFE - non-existant.
After getting dressed, I ask if it would be okay to come again. She says, in a somewhat more energetic and cheeful tone than before, "Yeah, please come". They all say that though. She once again notes my Japanese abilities, and then does something a little unexpected - asks me for my cell email. She'd seen me playing with my cell after coming back from the bathroom break before I think. I tell her okay, and give her the cell so she can directly input her mail address into it. She tells me - twice - to be sure to email her. I promise that I will, and I leave, giving proper thanks to both her and the mamasan.
On my way home, I sent a basic email, just thanking her for the service. She actually responded to me last last night, and we exchanged a few more emails this morning. I'm not really sure where that's going, guess I'll just wait and see.
I will go out and see her again, maybe next week if I can. The sex wasn't that good, but she is really, incredibly hot. I will settle for that. Plus, I'm ashamed of my poor performance, and want to do her properly. I also wonder if Mari will be warmer towards a repeat customer, especially if we keep this email thing up.
Davidinjapan
10-08-07, 08:04
I will be visiting Osaka and was wondering if any of you guys could give me directions to tobita. It s only my second time in osaka so any information would be greatly welcomed.
I will be visiting Osaka and was wondering if any of you guys could give me directions to tobita. It s only my second time in osaka so any information would be greatly welcomed.
RTFF via the search engine-look for "TOBITA".
AF place I have used on a couple occassions:
http://www.af-sentai.net/gal.php The hot one at that place said she would not do foreigners.
According to another mongerer:
"The site does say it has a number of cuties, but when I went I had to pay first, and then the choice of 8 I was given only had 1-2 I though attractive. I picked a gal who was supposedly thin, but had actually put on about 20kg since she started working there and was about 60kg in real life. Nice enough, but not exactly a high class place. One poster got me thinking about the nama/naka dashi offered-an AIDS timebomb as he put it..."
Here is a site for light SM: http://www.piass.net/sm/ There are a bunch of SM places around that neighborhood. Piass is pricey, but, particularly in Japan, you get what you pay for.
The girl I had, Misa, did anal, but it was a mess. However, she did one awesome thing, which was totally tie herself up in a traditional Japanese bondage thing, and then all I had to do was the last little bit to finish it up. That was cool.
Azure Knight
10-12-07, 02:59
After meeting up with Mari a few weeks ago, we'd exchanged a few casual and light emails for a few days. She told me she'd been studying English through a tutor. I was sort of hoping that would lead to an arrangement where I'd teach her English in exchanges for a little service, but that never happened.
Anyway, the mailing had been going well, so I decided to drop by Tobita yesterday and pay her a visit. I was hoping that a repeat visit plus our mails would have warmed her up a bit. I mailed her beforehand to ask the name of her shop, which she told me. She also told me she wouldn't start work until 8PM. I thanked her for the info, and asked if it would be okay to drop by. She said she'd love to see me. Looking good so far.
I took my time in going, but I still ended up in Tobita around 7:40. I didn't want to go to Mari's shop too early and be made to wait, so I decided to just take a stroll around a few of the side streets. I got maybe two invites - one, the girl seemed to be in her mid 30's - not bad, nothing I would choose but nothing I'd turn down either. The other invite came as I'd already nearly passed the shop - I couldn't see the girl, and I didn't want to double back to take a look.
Walking around, I discerned a few things about Tobita.
1. I'm not sure if it's just this week or what, but this particular Thursday was really slow. Many of the shops were closed, and there weren't too many guys walking around. I'm not quite sure if this is good or bad for us foreign mongers. More closed shops means less selection, but less guys means that a mamasan might be more inclined to try and invite us.
2. I found a police box sitting right in the middle of the district. A police box! Amazing.
3. I've noticed it before, but a lot of guys go through the district by car before making their choice. Drive-thru mongering. Wow.
I killed time until about 7:55. With the amount of closed shops, I didn't want to risk some other guy getting to Mari before I did, so I went ahead to her shop. I had memorized the location of her shop based off where Tomo's shop is. What I realized now was that both shops are on the same street (the "main" street), with Mari's shop a few blocks ahead of Tomo's. Which is good for finding them, but kind of bad if I want to go to one but not the other. Oh well, if anything, I was happy to have gotten access to two of the shops on the main street.
Despite being early, Mari was already there. The mamasan said "Oh, this guy" as I approached. Japanese can be vague sometimes, so I'm not sure if it was the mamasan remembering me from before, or if Mari had told her I was coming. After a few pleasantries, we headed upstairs.
Again, we get to the pricing right off the bat. Given how quickly the time had passed last time, I opted for the 30 minute course this time for 21,000 yen. Before I could say anything though, Mari asked if I wanted to take it slowly today and suggested the 40 minute course for 31,000. She said she'd give me a 1,000 yen discount. I noticed on the pricing play that 40 minutes included "rotor play", or the use of a vibrator. I'm not a big fan of toys, and I'd already decided on the 30 minutes, so I told her I didn't have enough on me for 40 minutes, and she agreed to 30.
After the money was settled, she came back with the tea and sweets. She was somewhat more talkative this time, but still as cold and aloof as before. I tried talking in English with her, but she barely understood "how was your day today?" I think she should fire her tutor. She then excused herself to go to the bathroom. I KNOW she was gone for more than 5 minutes here, at least. I remember thinking "man, this is taking a while", and at least one full song had played on the radio while she was away. When you're paying for every minute, 5 minutes is a significant chunk. I guess the amount of bathroom time goes up proportional to the amount of time you pay for.
She again undresses and instructs me to do the same. Again, she's very careful to put the condom on before anything else, and although the BJ is better than before, it's still quite lackluster. I notice here that, aside from the condom just being tight, it's also pretty thick, and not a whole lot of feeling gets through. She does the BJ just enough for me to get hard, then suggests we switch positions. I ask if it's okay to kiss her - she grants me a peck on the lips, nothing more. I don't bother asking if I can eat her out again - didn't feel like I'd get a yes. I sucked on her tits while fingering her - she was wet from the start, which suggests that at least part of that 5 minute bathroom break was spent lubing up, but after a little finger action I got some of the natural juices flowing.
When it came time to get started though, I found myself going soft again. The condom was tight and unfeeling, sure, but I think a big part of it was also Mari's apathy. I've had my fair share of cold fish over the years, and there's just nothing exciting about them. I try to stimulate myself, but I notice that the feeling with even that is greatly diminished. Mari suggests I lay down again, so we switch. She again gives me a BJ until I'm hard, then tries to get on top, but I'm not able to stay hard long enough to get in. Talk about frustrating and embarrasing! Mari is patient though, and suggests doggy.
She gets on her knees in front of me, and there's just something about that that overcomes all the obstacles and other stuff, and I rise to the occasion. We go at it in doggy for a little bit, but again I want to enjoy her from the front so I have her lay down. Now that things are working properly, there are no problems. Mari though is about as into it as a blow up doll would be. At one point, she almost caressed my arm, but then stopped and brought her hand back up near her head in Standard Cold Fish Position. It wasn't long before I heard the buzzer - again?! How is this 30 minutes? I know I don't have a lot of time to work with, so I concentrate and finish up. I actually found myself thinking of Tomo towards the end, and how I wished I'd gone to see her instead. Mari kind of looks like she's been fucked good for a second or two, but then rolls over and its back to work as she carefully takes off the condom. I tell her its not a very good condom, and she says its all she has. I ask if it would be okay to bring my own next time, to which she says no problem.
As we get dressed we do talk a little bit more. She asks me about my height and what not, and the usual talk about buying clothes and bumping my head into things. The time's up buzzer goes off at least 2-3 more times as we're getting dressed. She asks me if I like sweets, and again dumps all the little candies from the tray into my hands. I say my thank you's to her and the mamasan on my way out. I notice another dolled-up beauty sitting in the entranceway as I come down the steps - the shops on this street certainly do have quality. I guess this is why Tobita is famous all over Japan. Gentlemen, we should consider ourselves lucky to monger here.
However, one thing I noticed though - I left Mari's shop, and walked a little bit before I noticed I was going in the opposite direction. I doubled back and got on the right street. As I hit that street, I looked at my watch - it was 8:28. I was definintely short-changed on time. I know I didn't get to Mari's shop a minute before 7:55. Even if we start the clock then (not counting the time it takes to take off shoes, go upstairs, and then settle the price), I know Mari took at least 5 minutes in the bathroom, it took us at least 5 minutes to get dressed afterwards (could have been more), and I had been wandering around on the street for at least 5 minutes before checking my watch. That's at least 15 minutes right there, half of the time that I paid for. Contrast this with Tomo's shop, where 20 minutes seems to last forever, and the mamasan is very lenient/forgiving with the buzzer.
So, mongers beware. There are shops that will shortchange you on time.
On my way home, I sent Mari a message thanking her for tonight. This morning, she thanked me in return, saying she likes me a lot because I'm nice, and wants to see me again. I swear, Mail Mari and Actual Mari are like two different people. But the next time I go to Tobita, I'm definintely going to see Tomo. She's just as attractive, the sex is unmeasureably better, and I don't get cheated out of time. I found myself wanting to pay Tomo a visit right after I finished with Mari - walking back to the station I had to fight the urge to turn around and go back several times.
On my way home, I sent Mari a message thanking her for tonight. This morning, she thanked me in return, saying she likes me a lot because I'm nice, and wants to see me again. I swear, Mail Mari and Actual Mari are like two different people.I know a few hostesses. I'm sure you know a lot about Japan so I hesitate to offer this, but the mail communication (and even invitation) is not all that unusual in this trade, and is more often than not just another marketing tool, a way of generating repeat customers.
Which is not to say she doesn't genuinely like you in some way we may not be able to understand. Once you think of her job, what she does, and how often she does it and to how many guys, breaking it down to the cold bottom line and how to get us in and out makes sense.
Hey Azure Knight,
May I offer this soultion on keeping track of time and keeping them honest.
When I used to visit the booths in Kawasaki and Yokohama, I would always bring a digital timer (available in any 100 yen shop) to confirm that I was getting the time paid for. Before paying the girl, I would repeat the time agreed to in minutes(irregardless of when I popped) so there was no misunderstanding. Then once inside I would show the timer in full view and press start. Some girls would be surprised at my boldness. Nevertheless it worked quite well, espcially with the money grubbing Chinese girls who would always try to short me on my agreed time paid before I used the timer method. From then on, I always got the time I had paid or I left before the time limit because I chose to.
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Again, we get to the pricing right off the bat. Given how quickly the time had passed last time, I opted for the 30 minute course this time for 21,000 yen. Before I could say anything though, Mari asked if I wanted to take it slowly today and suggested the 40 minute course for 31,000. She said she'd give me a 1,000 yen discount. I noticed on the pricing play that 40 minutes included "rotor play", or the use of a vibrator. I'm not a big fan of toys, and I'd already decided on the 30 minutes, so I told her I didn't have enough on me for 40 minutes, and she agreed to 30..
As usual Azure provides an insightful post. I suspect Mari knows she has him on a hook, and is reeling him in slowly with suggestions for longer courses.
Tobita is great if you can perform on demand and make the 15min finish, but it is easy to see how they make there money. Charging 50,000/hour is damn steep in anybody's book. Chinese estes might be as cheap as 15,000/hr. Korean DH service is about 17,000/hr., AM in Tokyo is 17,500/hr. Soaps range from 15,000-50,000/hr. Of course in Osaka the latter options are not easy for foreigners to partake in.
I have noticed many places increase in price as the time gets extended. If a pink salon has a 30min course is 5,000, why is the 60min 12,000? My guess is that of the 30min, 10 is real action and 20 is prep/post. Of the 60min, you probably get 30-40min of action.
Azure Knight
10-16-07, 08:19
Crikey -
Yeah, I know. Honestly though, the women I experienced who were quite frosty, rarely offered up their email. If they did, the email kinda sorta matched their personas. With Mari, I was just surprised to find her to be quite cold in person, yet portray this energetic and sweet girl through the email. She's good.
Calbts -
A digital timer. That's a pretty good idea. I've never felt outright slighted on time before, but if I go back to Mari's shop again (unlikely) I'll probably take my digital watch with me and make a production of starting it.
Lion -
I wouldn't say Mari's got me. Quite the opposite, I don't think I'll be seeing her for awhile. My next trip out to Tobita will be to see Tomo. What brought me to Mari in the first place was the desire to score another hot girl from that main street, which I did (one more small victory for foreigners). Mission accomplished, so I can go back to Tomo.
Of the 4 different girls I've seen in Tobita so far, only with Mari have I felt slighted on time. Maybe I've just been really lucky so far, but I've never really felt slighted for time in general. In a few pink salons, I've finished early by my choosing, and had the girl remind me I still had time left if I wanted to utilize it. And I swear with Tomo we run way over time.
Maybe its different for other guys, but in my experience with pink salons/fashion health so far, FS doesn't even become an option unless you agree to pay for the most amount of time/the highest amount. As you said, of that hour you only get maybe 30-40 minutes of actual play time. So the way I see it, at Tobita you pay the same price for half the time, but on the plus side you get much, much better quality. Plus, there's usually less time wasting - the girl comes back from the bathroom trip (which usually isn't that long, this time being an exception) and gets right to work.
I'm a cheapskate, and I've never really been tempted to try the 40 mins or more courses at Tobita. But who knows, maybe one day...it seems like no one here has done it yet, might be interesting to see how/if it differs from the standard fare.
I am new to Osaka. All my previous mongering expereince has been in Shanghai, which is a fun city to be in.
I had done a walk around Tobita last week to see what is available and today decided to explore Matsushima Shinchi.
After reading some reports and searching the internet, I finally figured out where Matsushima is and off I went.
Found it alright. There are about 70-80 shops there. Half of them were open at 5 PM. The girls are not as young or beautiful as Tobita but with 20min for 10,000 yen and additional time for shower, its a good deal.
The call rate is not as high as Tobita either but I did get an invite from some couple of young beauties so plan to go there over the weekend again.
Dirctions - Take the chuo line to Kujo station and get out at exit 6. u see a mcdonald. take a u turn away from it and walk on the road for 2-3 mins till u reach hotel tropical, turn right and u are in Matsushima.
Map attached as reference.
KJ
Grassy Knoll
10-19-07, 06:41
After reading many posts on on this board, I decided to try Tobita on my first of 4 nights in Osaka. My dozo hit rate was about 30% at about 6 pm on a Saturday night. Some of the girls were indeed stunners but others had to be grandmothers. In one case the worker was no doubt older than the mamasan seated next to her display. This must be a Japan thing because I have never seen working girls that old. After walking around the entire district, I found young cutie. Her body was about a 6 and her face an 8. After she took me upstairs to the large tatami room, I noticed she was bit bruised on her legs and arms. I took a 30 minute session. I paid the girl directly but I don’t recall the exact price, but the prices were all listed on a menu. She wiped me off with a toilette sprayed with some disinfectant and then got down to business with a CBJ. She barely stroked my Johnson at all to make him firm enough for the condom. She started in a hurried manner and the entire session continue that that way. She wouldn’t let me do her doggie and she kept looking away from me the entire time. I was put off by the experience so that I finished up well before my 30 minutes expired. After we finished we tried to chat and she was very sweet but I speak no Japanese. This was not the best monger experience but what the heck, I wanted to try Tobita. I suppose I might have had better luck at one of the other shops, but I didn’t bother to go back.
On the second night in Osaka while walking in the Umeda area east of the Osaka railway station, a Taiwanese massage girl talked me into a message. She was young and cute but the services offered at the dimly lit place she took me only included massage. I took her up on it and she did the massage which was just OK. I asked her in Mandarin while she worked my back if there are any girls that could provide full service (zuo ai in Chinese). She said she could take me to such a place. After the massage she took me to place that folks on this board refer to as a Chinese hoteru on the ground floor of a building near a long covered arcade that extends several streets eastward from the Whitey underground mall east of the Osaka station and connected train stations in the Umeda area. If you know this arcade the hoteru is at the very end after the arcade turns into an open lane with similar establishments. I do not know the name of the place.
At any given time there are 6 to 10 girls working. You can see all of their photos on a menu and the girls who are working are indicated with an arrow. If there are not many customers all the girls sit on a sofa and you can inspect all of the ladies in the flesh at one time. The price is 12000 for 60 minutes of BBBJ and full serve. The first night I tried it I paid more than the 12000 but I was too drunk too figure out why I charged more. On my subsequent visits, I paid the 12000. The girls are all 7-9 and my first pick was a tall slim 9 from northeastern China but I don’t recall her name. The girls here are all Chinese but speak Japanese well enough. Don’t expect any to know English other than the obligatory " Oooh you big! "
The place consists of 2 or 3 large rooms that are sub-divided with thin dividers that are tall enough for visual privacy but do not reach the ceiling. As far as sound, you can here all the other sessions going on around you. Each larger room has 1 or 2 showers. The lady leads you first to you cubicle where you both undress. There’s a locker in each cubicle. The lady showers you and then back to the cubicle where she starts with a quick back massage, before going down for a some BB head for the first course and then the rest. My girl provided great service but I had way to muck to drink and couldn’t come, but not for lack of trying on the part of my girl. I went back the next night in much better condition and picked a girl named Ai, also from Northeastern China, but she normally lives in Guangzhou (no doubt working in the trade). We connected immediately. If you have never every sampled a Harbin girl, I highly recommend it. Ai was not tall but had a great body and an truly outstanding rack. Her BBBJ was fantastic and then we got down to it, but not before eating her delightful pussy. The experience was total GFE including DFK and eventually I did her in every conceivable position possible within the confines of a 2X3 meter cubicle. My favorite was turning perpendicular to the small bed and pounding her senseless while her head banged against the flimsy wall. She loved it and let out screams of joy. Although I never felt rushed she did inform me of the time about ten minutes before the 60 minutes were up so I took that as my cue to finfish up. I fished off French between here fabulous breasts and delivered my load all over here neck and shoulders but not on her face or in her mouth. I think CIM probably would be fine here but I didn’t try it. On the way to shower, she said I stretched her out so that now her pussy was not tight enough for the Japanese clientele. We had a good laugh.
The next and final night in Osaka, I went back to see Ai again. It was even better. I wish I had more time in Osaka. I would take her out. Alas, it was not to be. She works seven nights a week anyway. She did give me her phone number in Guangzhou. I live in Hong Kong so the next time I am there I’ll definitely hook up with her.
All in all, this place was a good experience in Japan. In Shinjuku, I have paid more than double to take Chinese hostess girls back to my hotel for a short time. These girls were just as pretty and for just over US$100 a pop, I think it was a pretty good deal for Japan.
Directions: The easiest way to find this place is to emerge from the Whitey underground shopping mall at the very east end from the NE exit and walk east along the major avenue. Pass a few blocks and you will come to a Lawson convenience store on the north side of this avenue which has a small parking area. Go left on the small street immediately before Lawson and walk until you see a small walled shrine on your right. Go left on to a small lane and the place is the ground floor establishment which pink colored signs. I have provided a map. Follow the red lines.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Azure Knight
10-19-07, 08:07
Thanks for the excellent report, Grassy Knoll! Sorry to hear that your Tobita experience wasn't that good - sometimes I guess its just luck of the draw.
I think you've sold me on the Chinese Hoteru. I'd like to give it a try myself, so your map will come in handy.
Drewtothedew2
10-23-07, 10:47
This place is fun if you like to look, which I don't. http://www.apollo-1bld.com/Tel_0120081181.html However, if you are drunk it is much better. We went for a birthday party last month, and we are going again tomorrow, so if you want to join us, let me know.
Last month we went to the fifth floor and got an all-you-can-drink, 2 hour for ¥7,000. We were trashed, and the second party at the Royal Host was, as my office's intern put it: "bowling shoe ugly".
Tomorrow we have another ¥7,000 all-you-can-drink, NO TIME LIMIT deal. I explained to the guy that we are some serious drinkers, and he said not to worry. Admittedly, they make their money on the dances. Plus the booze is god awful cheap.
Ciao for now,
MakHi Mak,
Unlike you, I enjoy a good watch. Can you tell me more about this place/places? The booze is cheap, but they make it up in dances. Do you mean they expect a bunch of tips, or are you paying for lap dances?
Any and all info is appreciated.
Thanks,
Drew
Saint Of Killers
10-24-07, 11:27
Grassy Knoll,
Thanks for the report! I've never ventured around that part of Umeda before but it sounds like I need to give 'er a go at least once! Were they apprehensive about servicing foreigners there at all?
Azure Knight
10-25-07, 02:55
I went to the Chinese Hoteru Grassy Knoll reported about last night.
His directions are very accurate, but me being an idiot I got a bit lost. I can provide a few more specific details though. Make sure you go through the East Mall of the Whitey underground shopping complex. Continue traveling through the East Mall until you get to an rounded open area with a water fountain in the middle. There are several exits here - you'll want to take the one that leads out to Ogimachi Street. I think it's either exit 11 or 14.
I caught the name of the place, but it's written in all kanji, so unless you speak Japanese or Chinese that doesn't really help you. It does say "Este 1F" in katakana though. After you turn left on the street across from the walled shrine, the building is on the right. Go in, and there's a little hallway/open space with an elevator. There's another hallway to the right of elevator, which leads to the reception area. I'm pretty sure it's one of, if not the only shop with a reception area on the ground floor, as the rest seem to be either in the basement, or on higher floors.
I came down the hall, and I spotted two guys, who were quick to welcome me in. If I get the welcome treatment with no hesistation, then I'm pretty sure any foreigner would. I hadn't even displayed any Japanese language ability yet. One guy lead me to a small couch, and pointed out the prices. I opted for the 60 min course for 12,000 yen. He came back with a board with pictures of the girls on it. All of them except for 2 were available, and he pointed out the ones that were ready to go immediately. I tried taking my time looking at the picture - read the reality behind the airbrushing and all. I notice that Ai is available - I was tempted to choose her given GK's positive review. After a minute or so, the guy asked if I wanted to look at the girls directly, so I agreed to that and he led me into the small little lobby-type area.
Well, the girls were VERY excited to see me, and there was really only one question on their minds - is he big? They were speaking in mixes of Japanese and Chinese, but even the Chinese parts I could tell that's where the conversation was headed. My male receptionist friend puts his hand on my crotch to try and determine what I'm packing. Hey, I most certainly didn't come here for that! I take a small step backwards and tell them that it's a little embarrassing, and of course I'm not packing any major heat at the moment. The girls now notice I can communicate in Japanese, which gets them even more worked up.
Of course, they didn't quite match the pictures, but there were still some decent looking women. Nothing that matches Tobita of course, but not at all bad. A few girls on the couch throw me occasional discreet smiles. One girl in the middle is very active, and very interested in my possible size. She gets up and asks me to my face how big, with finger gestures. With her so interseted, I ask if she'd like to see it in person. She says "is that okay?" and actually unzips my pants then and there are starts to feel around in there. Wow, I've never had this kind of thing happen in Japan before. The other girls say they want to see, and the girl liberally feeling around in my pants asks if it's okay to show everybody. Talk about having to perform under pressure! I again tell her that its embarrasing. The receptionist guy asks me to make my selection, so I pick the girl with her hand down my pants, hoping that her energy and interest here will carry over into the bedroom.
She takes me to the elevator, and we go up to the third floor. I ask for her name - she says it's Koko. She asks if she's really okay, because everyone always says she's the most scary. I tell her I think she's cute, and she tells me that I'm a "gentle man". The setup is exactly how GK described it. Koko lead me to one of the small partitioned rooms, and I noticed that there was another guy in the room next to us, but luckily he was finishing up. It didn't seem like there was anyone else there, so luckily I wasn't going to have to worry about my session being heard, or hearing anyone else's.
After the session, I layed face-down on the bed and Koko gave me a back massage. It was just okay. I'll give her credit for putting a little muscle into it, a lot of girls don't really do that. After a few minutes she had me roll over, and she started a BJ. She was very discreet about putting the condom on, so much so that I almost didn't notice. CBJ, but oh well, didn't come here for the BJ I guess. She stops at just enough for me to get hard, then she has us trade so that she's lying on her back. Rather than get right to it, I want to suck on her breasts, perhaps even DATY, but Koko pushes me down and away. She puts her legs up and crosses her arms in front of her body, which really doesn't let me do anything. With no other options, I get right to work.
Now, I've barely just started when Koko says "Oh, I'm gonna come. You come too. Let's come together." I dunno what kind of trigger-fingers she regularly deals with, but it's gonna take a little more than a few pumps to get me even close to coming. I tell her this, but after maybe a minute, she repeats - "Can I come? You come too - let's do it together." In fact, she said this at repeating 30 second intervals, and it was really quite annoying.
Koko kept her arms crossed in front of her body, and any attempts to kiss, lick, or suck anything were met with an arm block. She also reached down and grabbed my cock, sort of limiting how much was going into her. I wondered if I was too big for her, and asked if she was okay. She said she was fine, and that it felt good. And, of course, repeated her line - "Can I come? You come too - let's come together okay?" With the tiny room and the small single bed, positioning was difficult. Also, Koko kept her body in awkward positions, which wasn't sexy and a bit of a turn-off. Despite this, I powered through and managed to jizz.
Koko gave me a quick clean up with the tissues, and then lead me back to the showers. I noticed she wasn't quite as energetic/conversational as before. I wondered again if I had been too big for her - she'd made some interesting faces during the act. She again assured me she was fine. I sort of think she was lying about that though. After showering and cleaning up, she lead me back to the elevator. She thanked me for coming and asked me to come back again - the usual fare. On my way out I checked the time - certainly not 60 minutes, but that was fine - I'd had two showers, got off, and didn't feel rushed.
Overall - I like that this place is very accepting of foreigners, the girls aren't half-bad, and the prices are decent. Koko was terrible though. I'd like to go back and give it another shot, but definintely with another girl. Maybe I'll try out one of the girls who discreetly smiled at me from the couch. It'll be interesting to see how they react to me the second time - I wonder what Koko said about our session? Too big? Too much time? I'll find out next time.
I went to the Chinese Hoteru Grassy Knoll reported about last night.
"Can I come? You come too - let's come together okay?" On my way out I checked the time - certainly not 60 minutes, but that was fine - I'd had two showers, got off, and didn't feel rushed.
Overall - I like that this place is very accepting of foreigners, the girls aren't half-bad, and the prices are decent. Koko was terrible though.
Sounds typical of the Chinese places. They are all great actors, but you know at the end of the day they are there to get paid for the least amount of time possible.
Still, there are definately girls who do get into it, and when you find one it is well worth the reasonible 12,000!
I have been to a place that offered a longer course for 18,000. What I wonder is that if you are guarenteed 2 shots, and whether you'll still get the same rush out the door or not...
AK: Were you dressed in a dark gray or brown suit, carrying a black bag and coming toward the place from the direction of Nakazaki-chou? Probably not, but I was in that area last night as well and I don't see to many brothers in that neck of the woods.
Grassy Knoll
10-25-07, 13:58
I went to the Chinese Hoteru Grassy Knoll reported about last night.
His directions are very accurate, but me being an idiot I got a bit lost. I can provide a few more specific details though. Make sure you go through the East Mall of the Whitey underground shopping complex. Continue traveling through the East Mall until you get to an rounded open area with a water fountain in the middle. There are several exits here - you'll want to take the one that leads out to Ogimachi Street. I think it's either exit 11 or 14..Azure Knight,
Your description of the place sounds very accurate along with the enthusiam of the girls, but I never left the ground floor so I'm not sure if it's the same. I forgot to mention that on the last night I visited, a 55+ white guy came when I was leaving and was greeted warmly so this place is definately gaijin-friendly. I'm back in HK now where comparable service, if you know where to look, is readily available half the price. I guess with being in Japan and drooling over all the outstanding tail on the street, I had to find some release.
Happy hunting,
GK
Azure Knight
10-29-07, 09:36
Lion,
I'm pretty much committed to the basic price now. I think that extra time just ends up being used for the girl's prep time and clean-up. As long as I can do what I came for in the allotted time, I'll stick with that.
Xslikx,
Probably wasn't me. I was there Wednesday night. Also, I wasn't wearing a suit or carrying a bag. Hey, who's the other brother lurking this board! Come out and say what's up.
Grassy Knoll,
Unfortunately, those prices are standard for us. Low, even. Mongering in Japan is just not cheap. The trade-off is that freebies are easier though, if you can manage it.
The good is that despite identifying me as a non-native speaker they said they would send me the girl I requested. They said something about size is a worry, and that Europeans and Americans were OK (black Americans?).
The bad is that it took an hour for a callback, then half an hour for delivery. No FS, but fun anyway and managed 2 rounds.
Cost was 26,000/100min. Should have been 22,000 since I had a coupon. They said that since I requested the girl, the coupon was out and the name fee was in-although it turned out the girl only adopted the name I gave them and wasn't the same gal on the website. These covered up facial shots make it damn hard to tell.
She was about 19-20, with a killer bod with E cups and all sorts of tatoos.
One problem with these teens though is there is nothing to talk about during the recovery time. Makes me want to rethink my preferred age range.
I finally tried Freajia... As I said in a previous post, the first time I tried to find it, I ended in the shop that is in front of it. Sadly I didnt read the report of Stew2 594254 so I couldn't figure out that it was the last door on the left.
Well, the one I went was a kinda usual price one. It was called something like Nabeyama Clinic (at least that was the card I received). If you go to Diamond Bld, 4f and just right out of the elevator you will see their office. There are two guys behind a counter, and I talked to the one on the left. I started to figure out it was not Freajia when I looked to the prices. It was something like 14000yen for 60min, without Hotel fare. The girls were nice, though, but my budget was kinda small and I was thinking about just to leave when the counter guy told me that there was an offer for a girl that just started that day. It was 12000yen including hotel fare, and the girl didnt look so bad (it was not so clear keitai picture). I choosed her, and they made me wait in the room next to the office (just in front of Freajia!!). There was another guy, and they had a TV and a beverage machine. When my turn came, they send me to the elevator and told me the girl will wait for me in the second floor.
I got in and meet her as told. She took me to a small hotel just one block away (I later found out that also Freajia girls take you there too). We entered, I payed the room, and we got into bussiness. No FS, but it was pretty much GFE. It really seemed to be her first time, since she forgot at first to call the office to tell she started, and also forgot to lock the door (another couple almost entered, was kinda funny and scary at the same time). We started with some kissing and went down, we took a shower then, more kissing on the bed and she did a pretty good BBBJ. Some chatting while hugging her, time is up, and got dressed. When we were leaving, she said it was nice, please come back again and told me by mistake her real name. It was kinda nice experience, but really wanted to try Freajia... and I did but I will write about it in another post.
BTW, I mentioned before a Strip Club I went with a friend in Namba. 634866 . It is Show Pub Hip (http://www.showpub-hip.com/). Prices are in the web site. As I said, it had really sexy girls, and if you go early maybe it is not so expensive. Gaijin Friendly. Could be a nice please to do a meeting of the usual mongers in this Thread.
Good luck!
Sorry for posting twice, but I just found the card I received from Freajia. As Stew2 mentioned, it is in the last door on the left. The door is closed, and outside has another Kanji name. Just get inside, and (I don't know why) the sign of Freajia is next to the door. It is a very small place, and the counter is right after the door. I think it explains partly why it is so cheap.
The guy was very nice, and when I told him last time I entered by mistake to the other store, he told me that prices are really different. He just proceeded to tell me the prices and the offer they had for 60min plus Hotel (8900yen). It was before 7pm, so it was ok. I also took the shimei, and although I saw a kinda nice girl, I choosed another that looked like gal type (Sae). I never had a gal in Japan, so I though it could be nice, but I should have looked more carefully the age (29). Well, I waited in a small room next to the counter and she was ready in less than 5min.
She was definetively not like in the picture. Short hair, a bit fatty (long one and younger in the pic) and definetively taller than I expected (1.68m, and I am 1.64m). Well, I was hoping at least she may have a nice rack. She took me to the same hotel from the other shop I went and payed the room.
This time it was really small room. Only place for the bed (it was enclosed in the walls), and bath. She was talkative. She told me she was from Okayama, and just got separated, while she was getting undressed. Not so nice body, actually (I am really a boob guy), so I kinda get dissapointed, but anyway... I give it a try. We went to the shower, brush teeth, and then got into action.
She asked me what I like the most, being done or doing it, so I told her to give it a try on both. Some kissing, I went down (hard with the walls of the room), and then tried a 69. She had a pretty good technique (she told me that she was on this job about a year), BBBJ, finished, and shower again.
I don't think it was a bad experience, but I expected a sexier girl. She was a 4-5 in my list, definetively not the girl I would Nampa around. Next time I would like to try Mami since I saw her in the website. Freajia is kinda nice place if you like BJ, but I really prefer FS. I definetively will try that Chinese place.
Good luck!
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Crouching Tiger
11-02-07, 10:40
I was in Osaka earlier in the month of oct. When I first walked around saw a lot of old, chubby, and not so good looking women. I was wondering please tell me there has got to more and this must be the bad area, finally I found an area where the girls were really good looking. Don't know if this was the good area people were talking about. It was the weekend that I went- and was as you folks put getting a 95%+ call rate-so many to chose from so little time and money. Anyway chose a really hot chick on two seperate occasions-but as has been my experience girls that are really hot don't really put out.
It was nice to do really hot looking girls, but the ones that get my repeat business or loyalty are the ones that are GFE and enthusiastic.
BTW-a question the streets that had the hot girls that I saw had a rather large grandfather like clock at the end of the one street. Is this the area where the hot ones are supposed to be? Or is it another location that I missed?
If I ever muster up the time and money and maybe a pal to take trip back to Japan-maybe I can hook up with senior moner like AK and others.
But just wanted to thank the vets-wish I had the guns to try other areas, but wanted to play tourist to when not working.
Sorry for the delay. You are welcome to PM me if I don't answer quickly.
Your questions seem pretty obvious. Have you ever been in a strip bar where they don't expect tips? There is no pressure for tips, and even if you don't tip there is a lot of mashing your face in their boobs, touching, etc.
Of course you pay for lap dances. Where in the world are lap dances free? My first and last was not worth the money my buddy paid for it for my birthday. (I suppose that is kind of a free lap dance.)
We are going again Friday, November 16 for a buddy's Sayonara party, if you want to join us. The different bars got together, and ceased the all you can drink, but they still have a special drink/entry price of ¥7,000 for five beers and entry for 10 or more.
Ciao for now,
Mak
Hi Mak,
Unlike you, I enjoy a good watch. Can you tell me more about this place/places? The booze is cheap, but they make it up in dances. Do you mean they expect a bunch of tips, or are you paying for lap dances?
Any and all info is appreciated.
Thanks,
Drew
The good streets are the two or three that run just parallel to the shopping arcade. If you take a cab from the station, ask for Tobita Shinchi. When you get out of the cab, keep walking down the street perpindicular from the cab on the passenger's side. The arcade is about three streets down.
I prefer the day time, since the crowds are less, and I think the women are hotter, but less places are open. It is only a few stops on the subway from work, so I can make it down there and back within the lunch hour. Puts a sparkle on the rest of the work day.
Mak
I was in Osaka earlier in the month of oct. When I first walked around saw a lot of old, chubby, and not so good looking women. I was wondering please tell me there has got to more and this must be the bad area, finally I found an area where the girls were really good looking. Don't know if this was the good area people were talking about. It was the weekend that I went- and was as you folks put getting a 95%+ call rate-so many to chose from so little time and money. Anyway chose a really hot chick on two seperate occasions-but as has been my experience girls that are really hot don't really put out.
It was nice to do really hot looking girls, but the ones that get my repeat business or loyalty are the ones that are GFE and enthusiastic.
BTW-a question the streets that had the hot girls that I saw had a rather large grandfather like clock at the end of the one street. Is this the area where the hot ones are supposed to be? Or is it another location that I missed?
If I ever muster up the time and money and maybe a pal to take trip back to Japan-maybe I can hook up with senior moner like AK and others.
But just wanted to thank the vets-wish I had the guns to try other areas, but wanted to play tourist to when not working.
Typical Chinese este, but the price is pretty good, around ¥11,000 for an hour. Foreigner friendly. http://www.mangekyou-esute.com/ I won't be going back, because prefer Japanese, and Tobita where you can window shop.
Mak
Sorry for the barrage of reports, but I have been procrastinating to get these up here. Club Doma is a very fun, s/m bar in Kobe. http://www.rmg.ne.jp/domap/pol.html The girls are a laugh, and they have good parties at other locations. There is almost always a foreigner or two in there. After all, this is foreigner friendly Kobe.
Just up the street, there is a very cool hotel with a fun s/m room: http://www.renaissa.net/access/access.html #603 I think. As with most love hotels, joining as a member will be worth it if you plan to take full advantage of your stay, e.g. eat, drink. Also, this place throws in a free costume! It comes dry cleaned, and they have all the standard ones.
Anybody do any mongering in the Yanagi area of Kobe? My gf always tells me not to go there and giggles away, so it must be good.
Regards,
Mak
Saint Of Killers
11-09-07, 13:00
I went to this place called "Kinbana" - think the kanji for gold and flower - the other day after a bit of a drink with some coworkers. They left early to go BACK to work (they were really busy for some reason), leaving me alone in the shady part of Umeda around Doyamamachi (think close to Umeda station, behind the Tsutaya building).
I needed to get a release so I looked around for some estes and found this place. I forgot all of the prices off hand except for mine, which was 60 minutes for 15,000 yen. The price is actually 13,000 yen for 60 minutes, but once you go and meet the girl inside she asks you if you want the "full service" and asks you for an extra 2,000 yen. Not a bad hit, I guess.
Like other places the 60 minutes was basically 40 minutes playing around/fucking and the rest of the time was a massage/shower. That night I got this Chinese girl named Riri who was dressed up in this very sexy china doll dress. Her head-giving tech wasn't all that great but she rode me like a champ and loved it when I scooped her up into my arms and started doing her upright.
The address for the place is here:
Osaka-shi, Kita-ku, Doyama-machi 11-2
06-6367-5957
Cosmo Plaza 3rd floor
In the same building there are a bunch of other este places that probably offer similar services but I haven't gone. Maybe some of my esteemed colleagues can TOFTT? :)
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The address for the place is here:
Osaka-shi, Kita-ku, Doyama-machi 11-2
06-6367-5957
Cosmo Plaza 3rd floor
In the same building there are a bunch of other este places that probably offer similar services but I haven't gone. Maybe some of my esteemed colleagues can TOFTT? :)
I take it this Chinese place is not likely to have a website?
Speaking of TOFTT. Asian Mystique has 3 gals now on offer in Kansai, so any locals who have ignored AM due to the fact they were in Kanto should take another look (and report back of course!).
Azure Knight
11-13-07, 05:15
Indeed, I've heard of AM from occasional glances at the Tokyo board. I'm guessing that the Osaka girls go for the same rate as the Tokyo girls? Still though, that's 35,000 yen for up to two hours. I think I'll stick to Tobita for now, but if some other mongers wanna give it a try I'd love to hear about it.
Oh, and while I'm thinking about it - I was browsing the keitai deai site Star-Beach late one night. I replied to a few female posts that said they had a car and were willing to travel. A reply came back - for delivery health. I didn't want deliheru that night, but curious I replied back to one. I said that I was foreign and asked if that was okay. The girl didn't seem to mind. So for you guys wanting to try out deliheru but not confident of your phone Japanese, here's a possible option.
Azure Knight
11-13-07, 09:09
I was RTFF'ing for some love hotel info and found two options that used to get rave reviews, but it seems nobody talks about them anymore - Club Coco, and Gals Network for DH. Is nobody really using these anymore? I'm a bit curious, especially since they seemed to be really popular just a few years ago.
I checked this place out recently: http://www.d-ress.net/top.php I went to the Nara shop. They say it is "play" only, no honban, but my girl, Manami, did FS.
I checked this place out recently: http://www.d-ress.net/top.php I went to the Nara shop. They say it is "play" only, no honban, but my girl, Manami, did FS.
Did that require a "tip" as an incentive?
I was RTFF'ing for some love hotel info and found two options that used to get rave reviews, but it seems nobody talks about them anymore - Club Coco, and Gals Network for DH. Is nobody really using these anymore? I'm a bit curious, especially since they seemed to be really popular just a few years ago.
I used the Kyoto Gals Network recently (see report). They tend to be slow in finding a girl for you, and there are a lot of hidden costs.
Cocos used to have a pink salon, but now it is Hotel Health in Namba, and hit-or-miss as to whether the girls working will do gaijin. Not sure about Sakai shop.
No, it did not, but I will try to remember to try that in the future if necessary. However, I generally do not patronize places unless they tell me they are FS.
Originally, I asked the guy on the phone in Japanese if it was FS, (honban). He said yes. The driver picked me up in front of a convenience store, and she was in the car, so we went to the hotel, which was a bit out of town.
While we are in the bath, she said it was not FS. I got out of the bath, called the guy back, and he said he thought I asked him if it was tonight (konban), not FS. So I said, OK, and hung up the phone.
So we did our business, and she said she would like to date me outside of work, and we exchanged contact info. On the way out of the hotel for the guy to pick us up, take me to the station, and her to the next gig, she said a different guy from the driver who brought us would be taking us back.
There were three guys waiting there. At first I thought nothing of it, but then I realized they were sizing up the situation, perhaps looking for a signal from her to see if I had gotten rough. I had not been rough. Either she did not give any signal, or they were confident there was no problem, so the two guys took off in their own vehicles, and the driver took me to the station, and she rode along.
Adventures in Japan.
Did that require a "tip" as an incentive?
Azure Knight
11-14-07, 05:58
Thanks for the info, Lion. I may go back and give the Chinese hotel health place another shot, I think I just picked the wrong girl my last time. I've never used delivery health though, so I'd like to give that a try at least once, and I do miss love hotels.
I hope to give DH a try next week perhaps. I've never used it before though, so I'm not sure how it works for love hotels. You meet the girl/a scout guy beforehand in a pre-arranged location, right? And then go off to the love hotel. As far as I can tell at least.
Normally, you do not meet the driver in advance. I just did that because I knew where the shop was, and I did not know any hotels in the area. Also, I recommend you just call up and request they come to your place if you can. Love hotels are fun, but it is also fun to have them back at your place. Let us know what company you use, and if you recommend it.
Mak
Thanks for the info, Lion. I may go back and give the Chinese hotel health place another shot, I think I just picked the wrong girl my last time. I've never used delivery health though, so I'd like to give that a try at least once, and I do miss love hotels.
I hope to give DH a try next week perhaps. I've never used it before though, so I'm not sure how it works for love hotels. You meet the girl/a scout guy beforehand in a pre-arranged location, right? And then go off to the love hotel. As far as I can tell at least.
Azure Knight
11-14-07, 06:30
Actually, I can't have any DH girls come to my place for one very big and indisputable reason.
I RTFF'd and it seemed like the most common thing to do was to already be in the love hotel and have the girl meet you in the room. That's fine and all, but I often hear reports of the girl running late, and that only sends the LH meter running up. Also, people seemed divided on whether or not to be up front about being foreign - be honest and don't scam the place, or tastefully leave that out in the conversation with the scout and let the girl decide for herself.
I may give it a try this weekend or next week. I'll be sure to report anything that's report worthy.
I'll be staying in a business hotel in Kayabacho on my next trip to Tokyo and was wondering about using a love hotel instead of my room. Are there any real advantages to a love hotel and whats the price for a decent one? Are there any love hotels in the Kayabacho area and how can I find them? Thanks for any help offered.
Perhaps you are aware of this, but Tokyo is not in Kansai. That is the other forum, but finding a love hotel in Japan is pretty much the same everywhere.
They are gaudy, flashy buildings, and they have the prices for the rooms and the length of stay on signs in front. There are also a few web sites for finding love hotels. I have found this one useful in the past: http://www.love-hotels.jp/ but if you don't read Japanese, it will require a lot of copying and pasting to a translation web site such as this one on Y! http://honyaku.yahoo.co.jp/
Another easy way, is to just get in a cab, and ask the driver for a love hotel. You can even ask him how much to the love hotel by pointing at the meter, etc., but all this depends on the drivers willingness to cooperate. The word for love hotel in Japanese is similar to English: rabu hoteru.
If you PM me, I will send you my mobile phone number, and if you have a mobile, you can call me, and just hand the phone to the driver. If you buy a prepaid phone in Japan, get a Softbank one because you can charge them on-line. However, the prepaid phones, maybe just Softbank prepaids, are hard to find, and recently the only place I have found prepaid Softbank phones is at the airport, so I would buy one when you arrive, if you can. I think the phone is about ¥8,000, and a prepaid card is ¥4,000. Well worth the investment.
Have fun.
I'll be staying in a business hotel in Kayabacho on my next trip to Tokyo and was wondering about using a love hotel instead of my room. Are there any real advantages to a love hotel and whats the price for a decent one? Are there any love hotels in the Kayabacho area and how can I find them? Thanks for any help offered.
The Special One
11-15-07, 02:37
Actually, I can't have any DH girls come to my place for one very big and indisputable reason.
I RTFF'd and it seemed like the most common thing to do was to already be in the love hotel and have the girl meet you in the room. That's fine and all, but I often hear reports of the girl running late, and that only sends the LH meter running up. Also, people seemed divided on whether or not to be up front about being foreign - be honest and don't scam the place, or tastefully leave that out in the conversation with the scout and let the girl decide for herself.
I may give it a try this weekend or next week. I'll be sure to report anything that's report worthy.Love hotels are now mostly automated and the door locks behind you when you go in, so having her meet you in the room won't work. You have to meet somewhere outside and go in together. DH outfits keep blacklists and share info with other agencies, so I'd go the 'be upfront and honest' about your nationality and colour. Even if you never use a DH again, be mindful your fellow punters may want to.
no, it did not, but i will try to remember to try that in the future if necessary. however, i generally do not patronize places unless they tell me they are fs.
originally, i asked the guy on the phone in japanese if it was fs, (honban). he said yes. the driver picked me up in front of a convenience store, and she was in the car, so we went to the hotel, which was a bit out of town.
while we are in the bath, she said it was not fs. i got out of the bath, called the guy back, and he said he thought i asked him if it was tonight (konban), not fs. so i said, ok, and hung up the phone.
so we did our business, and she said she would like to date me outside of work, and we exchanged contact info. on the way out of the hotel for the guy to pick us up, take me to the station, and her to the next gig, she said a different guy from the driver who brought us would be taking us back.
there were three guys waiting there. at first i thought nothing of it, but then i realized they were sizing up the situation, perhaps looking for a signal from her to see if i had gotten rough. i had not been rough. either she did not give any signal, or they were confident there was no problem, so the two guys took off in their own vehicles, and the driver took me to the station, and she rode along.
adventures in japan.
that sounds different than any dh experience i've had, but i am always waiting in the room.
i have wondered what would happen if it "slipped in" during a sumata. of course i have a jimihat ready at all times, and i usually just show the girl and ask if it is ok. you got to figure some guys don't ask, and then are forced to cough up an extra [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) fee afterward. i imagine there is a board in japanese where they discuss this kind of thing.
so far my batting percentage isn't that high, as i am usually waiting for them to counter with a price and only a few have.
Actually, I can't have any DH girls come to my place for one very big and indisputable reason.
I RTFF'd and it seemed like the most common thing to do was to already be in the love hotel and have the girl meet you in the room. That's fine and all, but I often hear reports of the girl running late, and that only sends the LH meter running up. Also, people seemed divided on whether or not to be up front about being foreign - be honest and don't scam the place, or tastefully leave that out in the conversation with the scout and let the girl decide for herself.
I may give it a try this weekend or next week. I'll be sure to report anything that's report worthy.
Find a LH place with a mid-day rate for 2-3 hours to be on the safe side. Take a book...although some do deliver within 30 minutes if the girl is ready and not far away.
Print out a long list of DH from http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/ as a backup plan in case they catch your accent. I would say don't tell them your foreign and leave it up to the girl at the door.
I don't think people should be encouraged to discriminate, and by telling them your race, you are tacitly suggesting that racial discrimination is acceptable. Also, a lot of women in Japan will go with a foreigner if you don't make a big deal about it. If you force them to make a decision, they will say no, but if you treat it as though it is not a big deal, they will be more inclined to treat it that way.
I find only about 20% of the rooms to be automated, but most of the people on this board seem to agree with you. I tend to stick to places with less foreigners, so that may be the difference.
Love hotels are now mostly automated and the door locks behind you when you go in, so having her meet you in the room won't work. You have to meet somewhere outside and go in together. DH outfits keep blacklists and share info with other agencies, so I'd go the 'be upfront and honest' about your nationality and colour. Even if you never use a DH again, be mindful your fellow punters may want to.
good site, thanks for that
Print out a long list of DH from http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/ as a backup plan in case they catch your accent. I would say don't tell them your foreign and leave it up to the girl at the door.
Perhaps you are aware of this, but Tokyo is not in Kansai. That is the other forum, but finding a love hotel in Japan is pretty much the same everywhere.
They are gaudy, flashy buildings, and they have the prices for the rooms and the length of stay on signs in front. There are also a few web sites for finding love hotels. I have found this one useful in the past: http://www.love-hotels.jp/ but if you don't read Japanese, it will require a lot of copying and pasting to a translation web site such as this one on Y! http://honyaku.yahoo.co.jp/
Another easy way, is to just get in a cab, and ask the driver for a love hotel. You can even ask him how much to the love hotel by pointing at the meter, etc., but all this depends on the drivers willingness to cooperate. The word for love hotel in Japanese is similar to English: rabu hoteru.
If you PM me, I will send you my mobile phone number, and if you have a mobile, you can call me, and just hand the phone to the driver. If you buy a prepaid phone in Japan, get a Softbank one because you can charge them on-line. However, the prepaid phones, maybe just Softbank prepaids, are hard to find, and recently the only place I have found prepaid Softbank phones is at the airport, so I would buy one when you arrive, if you can. I think the phone is about ¥8,000, and a prepaid card is ¥4,000. Well worth the investment.
Have fun.Hey Mak. Yeah I realized I posted in the wrong forum right afterwards. Sorry bout that. Thanks for the info on hotels. Probably have to ask AM about one thats close to my hotel. I can have the girl go to my regular room but the damn bed sucks.
I tried it both ways. The first delivery health, Korean, I didn't tell my race and the girl showed up, looked at me and said no way. I tried to convince her but she was not interested. I wasted a short term stay in a hotel on that girl. (BTW I am quite ordinary looking)
I was quite motivated, (horny) so I went to a second hotel and called another DH. The second place also Korean, I told them I was gaijin. I asked specifically if it was ok. They said it was and a girl showed up. She also was surprised when she saw me and at first was not willing to go through with it. Finally she relented, lay down and said you can put it in if you want, but no kissing, no touching of the breasts. I was so desperate I did but of course it was an awful experience. I tried to make something of it but there is nothing like having sex with someone who obviously doesn't want to. I felt like crap stopped and told her it was the worst experience I had ever had with her profession. I suggested she find a different line of work. She assured me she was fine with Japanese. I told her the way she was treating me is the way that Koreans are often treated by Japanese. She didn't pick up on the irony.
She told me she would pay for the hotel room because I was her first customer of the day and it is bad luck to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) of the first customer of the day.
This experience soured me o the whole DH industry.
Azure Knight
11-16-07, 01:13
Osaka3210,
Sorry to hear about your disappointing experiences. If I may ask, what race are you? Also, it sounds like you have pretty good Japanese skills at least.
Azure Knight
11-18-07, 01:45
I finally gave delivery health a try. I decided to try Gals Network first as they seem to be foreigner friendly. Checking their website, most girls didn't start working until 8PM. I picked out 4 girls I liked, and called around 7:15. I requested Yayoi, my first choice, for 8:30. I gave them the name of a love hotel I was going to go to - the guy asked which room I was in, but I told him I hadn't actually gone in yet. He said that was fine and to call back when I did get the room.
Gals Network had a special deal - 60 minutes for 17,000 yen, with the price of the love hotel included. I asked about this, but the deal only works with a hotel they pick out. I didn't want to risk them picking some place I had no idea how to get to, so I stuck with my original plan. The regular 60 minutes course is 16,000 yen, throw in the price for choosing your girl and traffic? And the total was 18,000 yen, not including the love hotel.
Also, I don't think the guy figured out I wasn't Japanese. I'd decided that I wasn't going to come out and ask about foreigners, but if I was asked I wouldn't lie. He never asked, so either he didn't catch on, or he did and didn't care.
I arrived at my hotel of choice a little after 8. Luckily they still had rooms! After I arrived at the room, I called Gals Network back, maybe around 8:05, to inform them of my room number. They told me they would call back for confirmation. 5 minutes later, the room phone rings, and after the hotel front confirms that I will take the call, the guy from Gals Network confirms that I am in the room. I tell him that since I'm here, go ahead and send Yayoi.
She arrives 10 minutes later (8:20 - still minutes early from the time I requested). I'm pretty sure she wasn't the same girl from the website. Not even close. And kind of chubby. I didn't really have the time for a change, so I just went with it. She was kind of surprised to see me at first, but I welcomed her in, and after a little small talk she warmed up a bit. Shower, BBBJ, some rest, and I wanted to go for a second pop but she pointed out that the time was running out. She didn't really want to seem to do much, and as Osaka3210 pointed out before, even if you make them perform ultimately it's not enjoyable.
All in all, a bit disappointing. 18,000 yen for the service, and 5,000 yen for the room. The privacy was nice, but then for the service, I could have gotten the same thing much cheaper elsewhere, or for that price much better service. Don't think I'll try it again.
I know there have been many reports about tobita and I am adding one more but I have to share my experience.
I finally went to Tobita on Sunday at about 3. 30 PM. Walking around and feasting my eyes. The call rate was about 20% but none of the girls looked that hot.
I passed one shop on the hot street and the mamasan was very agressive in calling me, the girl was also very hot so I ventured in. Enquired about the price and it was 11K for 15 mins and 16K for 25. As the girl was hot, I took the 25 min option.
We went to the room up stairs and the girl told me her name. She could speak English and I was surprised. Her name is Tomo. (I just went and read AK's previous posts and I think this the same gem he described a couple of pages back).
Se told me that hed b'day is on 22nd Nov and she will turn 29. She has a hot smoking body and that was the best 16K I ever spend in Japan.
After we undressed, we started with DFK and the she licked my nipples before giving me BBBJ. It was the best I have had in a long time. While she was sucking me, I was busy playing with her clit and finger fucking her, which she seemed to enjoy a lot. After a few mins, gathered her in my arms for some more DFK before paying attetion to her boobs and then moving on for some DATY. She is a screamer and if she didn't cum, then she deserves an oscar for her acting.
She lay panting for a while before some moe BBBJ and then put on the hat and rode me. I could see that she was enjoying herself and came once more.
We tried multiple positions till we both finally came again. I got 2 thumbs up from her. She was too tired to move and had to rest for a min or two before getting up cleaning me.
Then she cuddled with me and started talking.
She told me that she prefers foreigners. Does not like Japanese boys as they are too small but she does have a Japanese boyfriend and she works as a Nurse in a hospital. We did some more DFK till the bell rang.
So overall an awsome experience with a very hot girl and she has got my repeat business.
KJ
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Azure Knight
11-20-07, 02:27
King Jack,
Yep, that's my Tomo allright. She's fantastic, isn't she? I was actually considering going to go see her tonight, but I think you just convinced me to go. I haven't seen her in awhile, and honestly, no other girl has come close to her level.
I didn't know she speaks English though. I may have to call her on that tonight.
I finally gave delivery health a try. I decided to try Gals Network first as they seem to be foreigner friendly. Checking their website, most girls didn't start working until 8PM. I picked out 4 girls I liked, and called around 7:15. I requested Yayoi, my first choice, for 8:30. I gave them the name of a love hotel I was going to go to - the guy asked which room I was in, but I told him I hadn't actually gone in yet. He said that was fine and to call back when I did get the room.
Gals Network had a special deal - 60 minutes for 17,000 yen, with the price of the love hotel included. I asked about this, but the deal only works with a hotel they pick out. I didn't want to risk them picking some place I had no idea how to get to, so I stuck with my original plan. The regular 60 minutes course is 16,000 yen, throw in the price for choosing your girl and traffic? And the total was 18,000 yen, not including the love hotel.
Also, I don't think the guy figured out I wasn't Japanese. I'd decided that I wasn't going to come out and ask about foreigners, but if I was asked I wouldn't lie. He never asked, so either he didn't catch on, or he did and didn't care.
I arrived at my hotel of choice a little after 8. Luckily they still had rooms! After I arrived at the room, I called Gals Network back, maybe around 8:05, to inform them of my room number. They told me they would call back for confirmation. 5 minutes later, the room phone rings, and after the hotel front confirms that I will take the call, the guy from Gals Network confirms that I am in the room. I tell him that since I'm here, go ahead and send Yayoi.
She arrives 10 minutes later (8:20 - still minutes early from the time I requested). I'm pretty sure she wasn't the same girl from the website. Not even close. And kind of chubby. I didn't really have the time for a change, so I just went with it. She was kind of surprised to see me at first, but I welcomed her in, and after a little small talk she warmed up a bit. Shower, BBBJ, some rest, and I wanted to go for a second pop but she pointed out that the time was running out. She didn't really want to seem to do much, and as Osaka3210 pointed out before, even if you make them perform ultimately it's not enjoyable.
All in all, a bit disappointing. 18,000 yen for the service, and 5,000 yen for the room. The privacy was nice, but then for the service, I could have gotten the same thing much cheaper elsewhere, or for that price much better service. Don't think I'll try it again.
I think Gal's Network often uses the bait-and-switch, which is probably easy with horny foreigners ( or Japanese for that matter). Most places also seem to play games with the coupons/specials they offer. So the price does add up quickly. You should have gotten a second shot, although 60 minutes can end up being just 20-30 with pre/post dressing and showers.
I actually am beginning to think that hotel health is the better way to go, since you can confirm who the girl is before making your departure to the room, saving you dissapointment and wasted time waiting around. OF couse the HH place has to allow foreigners...
Azure Knight
11-21-07, 03:02
i went to tobita last night to go see tomo. before anything else though, directions to the "main" street with the hottest girls - if you take the directions where you turn left into the district in front of the "bread and food" sign, keep walking straight on this street. keep straight across a large intersection (there'll be a gas station on your right), then turn right on the next side street, maybe 20-30 meters after the intersection. you'll notice an overpass directly ahead of you. keep walking straight under the overpass - and you're basically here. in my opinion, it's this street that has the best selection of girls, though some of the choices on the side streets aren't bad either. this is also the street where mari and tomo's shops are.
i arrived at tomo's shop at about 7, and as she wasn't sitting out front, i asked the mamasan if she was there. much to my surprise, the mamasan said she'd already gone home! she said tomo finishes up at about 6. this must be a schedule change, as i know i've gone to see her around 7pm before. the mamasan tells me to come back on the weekends before 6.
i really wanted to see tomo, but it seemed a waste to go all the way out there and not monger. i asked the mamasan if there were any other girls i could play with. she told me that it would depend on the girl, and she got up and went in the back to ask the girl(s) there if there were any takers. she didn't ask the one already sitting in the front, but given how this girl never looked at me, i guess the answer was obvious. the mamasan came back - no luck. i thanked her for her efforts and told her i'd come back for tomo on the weekend.
next, i headed out to mari's shop. mari told me she doesn't work tuesdays or wednesdays, but there was the off-chance that she might be there. she wasn't. i again asked the mamasan if there was another girl. her reply was "kono ko wa ne..." in other words, no. i continued to walk about the main street, getting virtually no calls. i tried asking a few mamasan's, but they were quick to turn me away. i start to remember why i initially didn't like tobita.
i passed by one shop where, upon seeing me, the mamasan sort of turned her head away from me, but the girl was all smiles. i went to the shop and gave a simple greeting. the girl asked if i knew japanese, and i knew how the system worked. i said i did, and asked if i could come in. the girl said yes, and then looked at the mamasan - who didn't bother objecting, so it was a passive acceptance. i'll take it i guess. we go upstairs, and i opt for the 20 minute course at 15,000 yen (i notice that the 15 minute course isn't even listed). the girl's name is mako. she's really short, but has a cute smile and a nice tiny little body.
we talk for a little while before getting down to business. a little nipple licking, then cbj, then her on top. we eventually switch to missionary and then not bad. mako's not bad - leagues better than mari - but its still a little mechanical, no particular gfe. while we're in doggy the time's up chime rings. again, the condom is kind of thick, and mako's not that tight (despite being a tiny girl!), so i realize i'm not gonna get a shot off in time. i go ahead and stop, and mako apologizes, noting that 20 mins is a bit tight. i tell her not to worry about it. as i leave the shop, i notice the mamasan is a lot more friendly to me than she was before (she actually looks at me now!). not getting off was disappointing, and it wasn't really gfe, but i've certainly had worse and mako is a tiny cutie with a nice personality.
i still really wanted to get off though, so i decided to try my luck on some of the side streets. again, i'm getting no calls, and when i do try to ask at a shop i'm getting turned down. one mamasan explains "you see, this area is only for japanese. sorry." a blatant lie, but i didn't feel like calling her on it and telling her that i've patronized several shops, even one just a few minutes ago. as i continue walking, i do get one call - another short and cute girl, with a big cute smile. works for me.
we go upstairs, and i again choose 20 mins for 16,000 yen (some shops charge 15,000, some 16,000, i dunno why). the girl's name is suzu. she's cute, but small, - its hard to describe, but has a older-lady-ish body, and she looks like she could be older under the makeup, but she still feels young. suzu does play the cute act well with the high-pitched voice. i notice that as we're talking, she begins to inch closer to me and playfully flirt - something i have yet to see in a tobita girl (tomo will just take off her clothes and say "we'll, let's have sex then"). it doesn't take long for suzu to lean in for a kiss, and after a little dfk we move to the futon.
a little nipple licking, then a cbj. suzu notes how "big" i am. i ask if she likes big, and she says she does, but we have to start off slow or else it'll start to hurt. i let her get on top at first to control the speed and depth. she said "start off slow"...i dunno what her definintion of slow is, but she started off like a piston. i start to play with her breasts, and she stops in mid-act to explain that she prefers her nipples to be pulled - not hard to the point where it hurts, just a little bit. i comply, and we go at it with her on top for awhile before switching to missionary.
with the "slow" portion now over, i step it up a notch - i'm really pounding this tiny little girl. this is the only way i can get feeling out of these thick condoms. suzu is very vocal and seems to be enjoying it. "harder...c'mon, pump me full of cum!" she says. with this, the hard action, and suzu being pretty tight, i'm more than happy to oblige.
however, as i pull out, i notice that the condom broke.
the rest of the condom was intact, but it seems that just the tip ripped off. at any rate, suzu now had a fair amount of my jizz inside of her. i apologized, and she said not to worry - she didn't think it went all the way to the back, and she'd go clean it out later. i apologized again, and a few more times, but i really don't know what to do in this type of situation. hopefully, a decade from now or so, some half-japanese kid doesn't come running up to me and be like "daddy?" we got dressed and i gave suzu another quick kiss before leaving.
as i was on my way out, one mamasan says "that was scary!" as i walk by. i can't help but to look back and give her a cross look to let her know i understood what she said. i overheard a few girls say "no way" as i passed by their shop as well. oh well, not like you were getting my money anyway. i was reminded how much i hate browsing in tobita - its cool if i have a place to go, but if i don't its sort of subjecting myself to unpleasant discrimination.
i've definintely got to go back and see tomo sometime this weekend and go confirm her schedule.
Asian Travels
11-21-07, 03:46
Again, the condom is kind of thick,
This is the only way I can get feeling out of these thick condoms. Suzu is very vocal and seems to be enjoying it. "Harder...c'mon, pump me full of cum!" she says. With this, the hard action, and Suzu being pretty tight, I'm more than happy to oblige.
However, as I pull out, I notice that the condom broke.
.
Bring Your Own Condom (thinnest in the world, and stronger than rubber).
L-size readily available in Japanese drugstores.
http://www.002mm.com/main.html
The Special One
11-21-07, 05:11
At any rate, Suzu now had a fair amount of my jizz inside of her. I apologized, and she said not to worry - she didn't think it went all the way to the back, and she'd go clean it out later. I apologized again, and a few more times, but I really don't know what to do in this type of situation. Hopefully, a decade from now or so, some half-Japanese kid doesn't come running up to me and be like "Daddy?" That is reason alone to worry. 'didn't think it went all the way to the back'?? Japanese ignorance at it's best.
AZ, I'd take a trip to the clinic in the next couple weeks and put the mongering on hold.
The Special One
11-21-07, 10:35
Thought I'd take a stroll through Tobita this evening after work. And blow off a little steam. Got there around 17. 30, but things were pretty quiet (too early? Too cold? ). While the open shops were few, there were plenty of police on bicycles and on foot looking for any and all foreigners to stop for a passport check. Needless to say, it was enough to quickly kill the mood and I headed home.
The fingerprint/photo law went into action yesterday across Japan, and it's not just at the border that they're being strict. According to Japanese law, all foreigners must carry their gaijin card at ALL times. If you do not have one, or are here on holiday, you must carry your passport. As I stupidly found out last night, even a quick trip to the Family Mart several blocks away without your passport/gaijin card is enough to get you hauled into your local koban box for a chat and a photo. Despite what you've been told, a photocopy of your passport is NOT acceptable.
Keep yourselves on your toes, boys!
Haam Sap Lo
11-22-07, 11:56
Wandered through Tobita after spending the morning at Spa World. Noted that there was a blonde Russian cutie doing the body scrub on the mens floor and four absolute honeys at the Heavenly Massage also on 6/F!
In Tobita I was called by just about every Mamasan in the hot road (the one with the clock at the end) even though I do not speak a word of Japanese. And I am quite obviously English.
Picked a 24 year old blonde cutie and took her for 25 minutes. Usual good service and I was well happy! Noted that most of my old shags were still working! I have been going to Tobita for about 5 years on and off.
Having said that. I get much more action (as a visitor) by picking up girls in bars in the Minami area.
Saint Of Killers
11-29-07, 16:47
I went back to "Kinbana" the other day and scored a real deal. 60 min for 9000 yen! I only had 10K on me and I explained to the mamasan that I just needed 1000 yen to get back home because I forgot my train ticket at home and thankfully she let me get FS for 60min. Yes, true story too. I actually did forget my train ticket!
This time I got set up with quite the looker in Mari, a Chinese girl who the mamasan said was the most popular girl in the Este. I wouldn't be surprised with the way she handled my equipment in her mouth! I was getting seriously turned on so I sat up to watch her gobble my piece in her mouth while licking the lower part of the shaft at the same time. Daaaam, it was good.
After 10 minutes of sucking she got on and rode me like a champ till I shot out a good 20 minutes later. Still had 30 minutes to kill but thankfully Mari is definitely a GFE and we basically DFK and played with each other till time was up. She even gave me a nice, slow handjob after everything. I didn't shoot the second time but it felt great.
af place i have used on a couple occassions:
http://www.af-sentai.net/gal.php the hot one at that place said she would not do foreigners.
according to another mongerer:
"the site does say it has a number of cuties, but when i went i had to pay first, and then the choice of 8 i was given only had 1-2 i though attractive. i picked a gal who was supposedly thin, but had actually put on about 20kg since she started working there and was about 60kg in real life. nice enough, but not exactly a high class place. one poster got me thinking about the nama/naka dashi offered-an aids timebomb as he put it..."
af-sentai allows foreigners with passable japanese in the door. no problem. never had a girl there turn me down. staff was friendly and helpful. unless you call ahead with a reservation (usually no extra fee, but don't be late! ) might have to wait a while for the girl to show up. waiting room is loud, smokey, and the other customers will stare at you. best to make an appointment and come back in an hour or so.
multi-pops are a go with most girls. only some will do bbtc, if that's your thing. most girls are japanese, they had one or two other asians there earlier this year, but i don't know some of the girls working there now. the girls do their prep before the session starts, anal has always been clean. the condom-only girls are prettier. never met a girl there with an attitude, though some of the girls i've seen there are a little run down physically. typical japanese bad teeth, bad skin problems. a few of them look like their pictures, but many do not. you can request a face-to-face meeting before going off together for extra yens. i've tried before to take the "free" girl and avoid the selection fee, but i always seem to pay it anyway. staff likes to put out the photos before you can say "i'll take whoever is available. "
you pay the guy at the counter for the time, selection fee, member fee (if you don't already have a membership card), and hotel fee. you wait some time while the girl comes in. (even girls listed on the schedule seem to take between 30 minutes and an hour to come to the shop without a reservation.) the girl leads you off to the hotel, negotiates the room, and then you pay her directly for any extras you want, such as [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103) or bareback. bbbj, sumata and covered anal service is always included in the base price. they sometimes run a web special, which includes the selection and membership fee. you'll still have to pay the hotel fee, which is usually lower than paying for the hotel yourself (especially if you take a long session.)
if you like bigger girls, i've had good luck with the osaka fats/monroe network. several girls on staff perform anal, and those are the ones i usually choose. unfortunately, about as often as not, i've gotten cbj with zero chance of bbbj. seems to depend on the girl. hotel fee always included, other fees often waived with monthly specials. covered anal for around 20k yens. 3p service with two large is a riot. (no anal service on 3p)
i used to frequent matsushina over tobita. very nice stopping off for a quicky after seeing a game at the osaka dome. only some shops accept foreigners, maybe 1/3. sometimes mama-san waves you in only for the girl to reject you. i wish i could remember the names of the shops i liked best. there's one larger shop which usually has 3 or 4 gals (early 20s) in the front which always let me in without even a "douzo". walk down the larger street from the covered mall, and look down an alley to your right. everything at matsushina is covered always, i think. no bbbj. price i've always paid is 15, 000 yen for 30 minutes of playtime, plus before and after shower. easier to take your time than at tobita.
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Asian Travels
12-04-07, 02:54
Af-Sentai allows foreigners with passable Japanese in the door. No problem.
If you like bigger girls, I've had good luck with the Osaka Fats/Monroe network. Several girls on staff perform anal, and those are the ones I usually choose. Unfortunately, about as often as not, I've gotten CBJ with zero chance of BBBJ. Seems to depend on the girl. Hotel fee always included, other fees often waived with monthly specials. Covered anal for around 20K yens. 3P service with two large is a riot. (no anal service on 3P)
I used to frequent Matsushina over Tobita. Very nice stopping off for a quicky after seeing a game at the Osaka Dome. Only some shops accept foreigners, maybe 1/3. Sometimes mama-san waves you in only for the girl to reject you. I wish I could remember the names of the shops I liked best. There's one larger shop which usually has 3 or 4 gals (early 20s) in the front which always let me in without even a "douzo". Walk down the larger street from the covered mall, and look down an alley to your right. Everything at Matsushina is covered always, I think. No BBBJ. Price I've always paid is 15, 000 yen for 30 minutes of playtime, plus before and after shower. Easier to take your time than at Tobita.
Excellent report. Nice to see a couple new places added to the mix.
If you like bigger girls, I've had good luck with the Osaka Fats/Monroe network.
Here is the website for anyone who is interested in TOFTT (I am). 15,000/90min including hotel is a pretty fair price.
Despite the unattractive name, the girls on the site appear to have some pretty cute faces, and let's face it, while you aren't going to find a thin all-natural F-Cup girl in any country, the ones in Japan would be considered slender in North America. Some of the girls have H and even O cups! And any girl who has a bust 30-40cm bigger than her waist definately gets my attention. (Typical J-gal is B-80cm, W-60cm)
http://www.osakafats.com/cgi/top.cgi
The fingerprint/photo law went into action yesterday across Japan, and it's not just at the border that they're being strict. According to Japanese law, all foreigners must carry their gaijin card at ALL times. If you do not have one, or
This has always been the rule. Everyone in Japan must carry identification. It might upset the ACLU types, but it does help account for the fact that Japan has one of the lowest rates of missing person cases. Every time they find a dead body, the likelihood of the dead person having ID on them is increased because of the law.
Af-Sentai allows foreigners with passable Japanese in the door. No problem. Never had a girl there turn me down.
None of the girls they show you in the photos will turn you down. Try picking one of the hot girls from the website. The shop only shows you photos of girls who will do foreigners.
I used to frequent Matsushina over Tobita. Very nice stopping off for a quicky
Spelling is Matushima.
Here is the website for anyone who is interested in TOFTT (I am). 15,000/90min including hotel is a pretty fair price.
http://www.osakafats.com/cgi/top.cgiThat is a weekday only special. The I course after 5 P.M. is 100 minutes for 15,500. They also have a coupon for free membership card. I've never needed to print out the "ticket" or coupon from the website, but it is probably a good idea anyway. The membership card is a point card, and you can collect points to get discounts on service. The card works at Osaka Fats and Monroe.
Osaka Fats is hard to find even with a map and bit far from the Umeda Station. Monroe is very close to Tanimachi 9 Chome Station and easy to find. Mrs Monroe is a hitozuma shop in the same location as Monroe. It looks cheaper than the other two shops, but I don't know if you get points. It opened right before I moved, and the girls working there at the time had irregular schedules. I do not know the difference in the shops, because Monroe has a few regular 30s women as well.
http://monroe-osf.com/
http://www.mrs-monroe.com/
None of the girls they show you in the photos will turn you down. Try picking one of the hot girls from the website. The shop only shows you photos of girls who will do foreigners.Interesting. I usually just made a phone reservation to taking my chances since I hated waiting in the shop, so I must have never asked for a "hot one". I'll have to test it out next time I go into Osaka.
Spelling is Matushima.Yes. My error.
I spent about an hour and a half searching for Osaka fats yesterday, using the map, with no luck. Could anybody give me a hint on where it is?
Will be going to Osaka during the new year holiday. I want to check out Osaka fats, I remember there were tons of shops and hotel health around Umeda but none offered FS (that was a few years ago). Has this changed? Osaka fats, is FS included? Japanese speaking westerners welcomed?
Thanks.
That is a weekday only special. The I course after 5 P.M. is 100 minutes for 15,500. They also have a coupon for free membership card. I've never needed to print out the "ticket" or coupon from the website, but it is probably a good idea anyway. The membership card is a point card, and you can collect points to get discounts on service. The card works at Osaka Fats and Monroe.Do they accept foreigners? Can you report on your experience? The site looks tempting.
Went to Tobita yesterday in the early afternoon. Very little traffic, so that I got a call rate of 80%. First tried a chick in one of the less popular streets. Here name is Riu. Large tits (Japanese H or I cup) with a nice face and slightly chubby, although not fat. Booked 20 min at Yen 11. 000. Started with DFK, BBBJ, TF, FS in various positions. All in all a nice GFE and well worth the money, if you don't mind a bit of extra fat on the body.
After that I felt energized and fit for a 2nd round. Tried one of the gorgeous girls in the popular streets. The mamasan was eager to get me in and the girl smiled at me and showed off her tits. Her name is Ren. Nice body with a very big tatoo on her lower back, D cup tits. Booked 20 min at Yen 16. 000. Asked me for the money in a very businesslike manner which made me feel uncomfortable. In hindsight I should have left at that moment. She asked me to undress and got herself undressed too. Immediately put the rubber on and moved to CBJ. Her technique was excellent though. Then asked me to switch positions for FS. She only accepted missionary. Didn't look at me for even one moment. Then the bell rang. Told me I have 3 minutes left. The clock certainly was running twice as fast than mine, as the whole thing lasted 10 minutes max. Her cold fish attitude and the fact that I was obviously cheated on time turned me off completely, so that I couldn't come.
So the Tobita problem is: how do you know in advance which girls give you a good service and at which places you are cheated?
how do you know in advance which girls give you a good service and at which places you are cheated?
Isn't that basically the problem with women everywhere, pro or amateur? The irony is that although Tobita/Kujo type places probably give you the best opportunity to know what you are getting before you pay, you never really know until you are done, do you? Even when you are out on a date with a regular girl, until you get her home, and undressed, you really don't know what her body is like, and until you have done the deed, you still don't know if you are sexually compatible.
With that disclaimer: check out Maika at Heart (心, ハート ) on the first main street parallel the shopping arcade. The shop's phone is 06-6636-7637. She works from 11-17:00 Monday through Saturday except Wednesdays. no condom, three holer
That is a weekday only special. The I course after 5 P.M. is 100 minutes for 15,500. They also have a coupon for free membership card. I've never needed to print out the "ticket" or coupon from the website, but it is probably a good idea anyway. The membership card is a point card, and you can collect points to get discounts on service. The card works at Osaka Fats and Monroe.
Osaka Fats is hard to find even with a map and bit far from the Umeda Station. Monroe is very close to Tanimachi 9 Chome Station and easy to find. Mrs Monroe is a hitozuma shop in the same location as Monroe. It looks cheaper than the other two shops, but I don't know if you get points. It opened right before I moved, and the girls working there at the time had irregular schedules. I do not know the difference in the shops, because Monroe has a few regular 30s women as well.
http://monroe-osf.com/
http://www.mrs-monroe.com/
Interesting. I usually just made a phone reservation to taking my chances since I hated waiting in the shop, so I must have never asked for a "hot one". I'll have to test it out next time I go into Osaka.
Yes. My error.Is there a Tokyo equivelent to Osaka/Monroe that is gaijin friendly?
The Special One
12-17-07, 05:36
Isn't that basically the problem with women everywhere, pro or amateur? The irony is that although Tobita/Kujo type places probably give you the best opportunity to know what you are getting before you pay, you never really know until you are done, do you? Even when you are out on a date with a regular girl, until you get her home, and undressed, you really don't know what her body is like, and until you have done the deed, you still don't know if you are sexually compatible.
With that disclaimer: check out Maika at Heart (心, ハート ) on the first main street parallel the shopping arcade. The shop's phone is 06-6636-7637. She works from 11-17:00 Monday through Saturday except Wednesdays. no condom, three holerN0 condom? Are you out of your freakin mind? WHY would you recommend a girl who provides bareback?
N0 condom? Are you out of your freakin mind? WHY would you recommend a girl who provides bareback?
This is the first time you have seen someone recommend bareback on this site? Why do you think there is name for it, and an appealing name at that?
The Special One
12-17-07, 12:02
This is the first time you have seen someone recommend bareback on this site? Why do you think there is name for it, and an appealing name at that?Hmmm, yes. I see your point. Bareback sounds so much more appealing than Russian Roulette.
Thanks for posting up her name, I will be sure to avoid her and anyone else that you've contributed to the potential disease pool.
This is your LIFE, man! Why would you want risk it by to sticking your cock into a girl that has had several other ungloved cocks in there God knows how many times that day?
thanks for posting up her name
well i will try to let you know where i go from now on!
many shops in japan have signs for the "nama" price and the regular price. and the places where there are no signs, will often tell you the price difference if you ask. you may think the woman you are doing is lily clean because you have a rubber on, but some nasty old japanese guy with a wad of cash from the boat races was doing her nama just before you got there. probably in her mouth. i hope you don't kiss them. the special one gives/receives no unprotected oral sex either? might as well stay home.
not that i disagree with you in principal. i visited maika a couple times, and stopped just for the reason you explain. however, i think you are trying to delude yourself that what you are doing is really that much safer. most people would suggest that just purchasing sex is already high risk, particularly in japan, and your point is just splitting hairs. you and i are like an agnostic and an atheist fighting about god, and most people would view our debate from the perspective of an evangelical.
a condom is not an absolute barrier to hiv, even if it doesn't break. while it is important, it is just one factor in being safer. are you circumcised? (i never thought i would be grateful my parents had someone slice off a piece of my dick.) do you get tested for hiv every three months? do you put the condom on as soon as you get an erection? if you really want to be safe, abstaining is the way to go.
anyway, my point is that the issue is more of a spectrum than an absolute. any activity has risks. even staying home, and dying of boredom. have you ever driven over the speed limit? browse the other forums, and you will see guys specifically looking for nama places. most probably don't do it everyday, but sometimes you gotta just say, ironically enough, live a little.
ciao for now,
mak
I spent about an hour and a half searching for Osaka fats yesterday, using the map, with no luck. Could anybody give me a hint on where it is?That sounds about right. As I recall, it's a block north of the YWCA. There is no sign and two or three identical-looking doorways. Get to the neighborhood, maybe near the middle school, and call.
Will be going to Osaka during the new year holiday. I want to check out Osaka fats, I remember there were tons of shops and hotel health around Umeda but none offered FS (that was a few years ago). Has this changed? Osaka fats, is FS included? Japanese speaking westerners welcomed?I don't know of anything FS in Umeda.
Always got friendly smiles from the staff walking into Osaka Fats and Monroe, even before I spoke. Shouldn't be a problem for foreigners with some Japanese.
Is there a Tokyo equivelent to Osaka/Monroe that is gaijin friendly?I don't hobby in Tokyo anymore, but you can ask on the Tokyo forum or check this site. http://www.debu-sen.net/
Azure Knight
12-25-07, 06:56
Went to Tobita last week to see Tomo. I'd seen her once since my last report here - made it a point to go out on the weekend to catch her. As King Jack said earlier, she has a new job as a nurse now, which means her Tobita hours have shifted to the daytime. She now finishes around 6. As my job doesn't finish until 6, and weekdays are usually best for me, I wondered how I was ever going to see her regularly again. She gave me a card with the shop's phone number on it - if I wanted to see her on a weekday, she told me to phone ahead and ask for her to wait.
So one Thursday I did just that. I phoned ahead to the mamasan, and upon confirming that Tomo was there, I asked if she wouldn't mind waiting for 30 minutes while I was en route. The mamasan said it would be no problem, and off I went. Arriving at the street that Tomo's shop is on, I remembered that Mari's shop is also on this street. Ordinarily, I might have gone around the long way, but I figured Mari wouldn't start work until later. I was wrong. As I passed by, the mamasan actively called out to me (rare) and when I looked inside the shop, sure enough Mari was sitting there! There wasn't much I could do - I just smiled as I walked by.
Tomo's shop was only a few meters ahead. I got there and Tomo had been sitting up front waiting for me. I thanked her for waiting, and we went upstairs. I asked if she was busy today, and she said she wasn't at all - not too many mongers during the daytime, and its getting colder anyway so people are staying inside in general. She hadn't had any customers. So, afternoon mongers, go pay this girl a visit, you will definintely not regret it.
Though, thinking of Tomo as a nurse absolutely fascinates me. Imagine going into a hospital and having an absolute stunner for a nurse, and as you're thinking about how much you'd like to fuck her, in reality you can if you pay her a visit to her secret day job.
I've seen Tomo plenty of times up until now, but this time was a little different (which is why I'm writing this report). As usual, she asked about the time. I didn't have much time, so I went with 20 minutes. I gave her 20,000 yen. She takes the two notes and asks "how much change should I bring you?". I was kind of surprised by the question, and didn't understand. I confirmed that the price for 20 minutes was 16,000 yen, and she said "Ok, 4,000 yen change is okay then?" I think she was allowing me to bargain my price a little, but I just didn't catch on. I don't mind, if there's any girl in Tobita who deserves the extra yen, it's Tomo.
As usual, she comes back from her bathroom trip and gets undressed, so I do the same and we get on the futon. Tomo starts off with nipple licking, followed by a BBBJ as she always does. Usually, right after the BBBJ Tomo puts the cap on and moves to get on top. I usually stop her so I can lick her breasts and DATY before that. As I didn't have time today, I figured I'd skip the DATY. However, after the BBBJ, Tomo gets on top of me and sits on my face. Guess I'll be DATY afterall. While I'm eating, Tomo reaches behind and gives me a HJ.
After she cums once, Tomo slids down to give me some amazing sumata. Again, a first for her. At one point, she had the tip of my cock just about to penetrate her pussy lips. Just one slight push from me and I could have experienced this wonderful minx raw. And it was so tempting too. But I wasn't quite sure if she was inviting me in, and even if she was, my brain just kept screaming unsafe. I didn't move, and after little bit more sumata, Tomo finally dismounted, grabbed a raincoat, and put it on me.
As always, incredible GFE. I think this time was the best, and that's saying a lot. Her service was already wonderful before, but now its just exceptional. Perhaps because I'm a regular, repeat customer? Or maybe with not so many customers, she had lots of sexual energy still pent up? Either way, it was awesome. As if there weren't already a thousand reasons to only go see Tomo. I am a bit worried though, if her nurse job becomes too hard/the Tobita gig becomes unprofitable, will she quit working? Perhaps I'll ask her about this on my next visit.
Upon leaving, I made it a point to steer around Mari's shop this time. Checking my cell however, sure enough she'd sent me a message - "You went into a different shop? I'm very sad..." I mailed back and said that I didn't have much time and didn't think she was working. I said that I wanted to see her though soon. I may pay her a visit just to keep that up. Although Mari is gorgeous, her service leaves a whole lot to be desired (not to mention the mamasan who cheats you on time). However, in one point in our mailings, we were talking about meeting up outside of her shop. What I'm hoping for is to be able to meet up with her outside of Tobita; if I can take my time with her, I can forgive the lack of GFE. Of course, a freebie is ideal, but I won't hold my breath.
At one point, she had the tip of my cock just about to penetrate her pussy lips. Just one slight push from me and I could have experienced this wonderful minx raw. And it was so tempting too. But I wasn't quite sure if she was inviting me in, and even if she was, my brain just kept screaming unsafe.I'm sure you could have barebacked her.
By the way, what is the name of her shop, in Kanji?
And for the record, I'm not planning on barebacking her.
Azure Knight
12-26-07, 01:30
I probably could have barebacked her. I certainly wanted to. I just had to err on the side of caution though. Better safe than sorry and all that. Although, since she's working as a nurse now, I'd think/hope that if any Tobita girl could keep herself relatively clean, it would be her.
I've seen her plenty of times but this is the first time I've ever gotten sumata, or even felt like bareback was possible. So I'm guessing its something you have to earn by being a regular customer that she's comfortable enough with.
The name of her shop is 美里. As I said, she works during the daytime until 6PM. The mamasan will probably try to make contact with you, but if not then Tomo will probably give you a look and a smile.
Hi,
Just spent a few days in Osaka for the new year. Couple of things have changed since the last time I was there (couple of years ago).
- Delivery health services
Not recommended, it seems japanese speaking foreigners are OK but many girls won't do FS. Price is expensive, not worth it.
- Osaka fats
Very hard to find, once I find it I had an honest talk with the guy at the door. Since he wouldn't tell me which girl would do FS I asked him which girl would not do FS. At least 2/3 of the girls are NG, not recommended.
- Chinese esute
Depends on the place, prices are pretty cheap. 1 man yen for 40 mins full service. I tried a few places, not that good until I found this gold mine! I've included 2 pics to help you get there. All girls are Chinese but the service is real good. GFE. Attitude is great! Girls are young, not fat and pretty cute. I went there on the 30th-31st and there were at least 10 girls to choose from, small/big boobs, short/tall etc. Foreigners are very welcomed, girls speak Japanese/Chinese. How to get there:
From Umeda station, find the tourist information center. Cross the large crosswalk and go straight. Near Hep Navio, cross again a double crosswalk. Keep going straight, another crosswalk, on your left you should see the sign Tsutaya CD/DVD, keep going straight for 5 mins. Then turn left and you should see the sign. Name of the shop is esute momo hana en (or something like that). Price is 1 man yean 40 min FS. You can get a longer course. 40 mins includes shower, BJ, everything.
Have fun! This one is a real gold mine!
From Umeda station, find the tourist information center. Cross the large crosswalk and go straight. Near Hep Navio, cross again a double crosswalk. Keep going straight, another crosswalk, on your left you should see the sign Tsutaya CD/DVD, keep going straight for 5 mins. Then turn left and you should see the sign. Name of the shop is esute momo hana en (or something like that). Price is 1 man yean 40 min FS. You can get a longer course. 40 mins includes shower, BJ, everything.I'm almost certain this is the spot mentioned by Grassy Knoll some months ago. The directions in the map provided by GK are actually a bit off, but I went to that place and the signs and name look familiar.
Saint Of Killers
01-04-08, 16:35
Yeah, I agree with Gifuboy here. I've been to that same place (I think it's called Toukakoen, not Momo Hana Koen though) and they got a bunch of good looking gals there, and it's only 1man for 40 minutes. Decent deal if you ask me. I think someone mentioned this place (Azure Knight?) as well. I think in this building alone there are two other places you can go, and the building beside also has three other establishments. Most of the girls are Chinese and Korean but I haven't met any girls that I'd rate below a 7.
Yeah, I agree with Gifuboy here. I've been to that same place (I think it's called Toukakoen, not Momo Hana Koen though) and they got a bunch of good looking gals there, and it's only 1man for 40 minutes. Decent deal if you ask me. I think someone mentioned this place (Azure Knight?) as well. I think in this building alone there are two other places you can go, and the building beside also has three other establishments. Most of the girls are Chinese and Korean but I haven't met any girls that I'd rate below a 7.Saint of Killers,
Thanks for given us the correct name. I have problems with names, just read every kanjis one by one.
I went over older reports and it's definitely the same place that was mentionned by GK and Azure Knight. I didn't know such a gold mine existed! If you wander in Umeda near the Kansai Hotel, there are at least 3-4 Chinese esute places, I tried two of them and the service was terrible. There are only 1-2 girls working, the mama-san can ask someone to come over if they don't have what your looking for but I was disappointed.
My experience at Toukakoen
I tried 2 girls, Yoko and Ruru, my Japanese and Chinese are both intermediate so I had no problem communicating. Experience was very GFE, deep kissing allowed, very nice BJ. As someone mentioned earlier, some of the girls expect you to come japanese style (I. E within 5 mins) so you might wanna make sure to mention it when choosing the girl. When they lined up the girls in front of me, I specified (both in Japanese and Chinese) that I wanted someone who would French Kiss and that I could go marathon style for 15-20 mins before coming. Half the girls didn't seem interested, among the ones that were OK I picked up Yoko. I banged her really hard and she was quite into it (good actress? ). After 15 mins she finally gave up and told me she was a bit tired so I was nice to her and came. Yoko was so great that I had her one more time later in the day and the next day. I also had Ruru the next day, as usual she was expecting me to come fast, when she realized it wasn't gonna be 2 mins she didn't ask me to come and we went for multiple positions. Thinking about the money I spent at DH places or other Chinese esute I think that's the best 1 man yen (4 sessions total damage 4 man yen) I spent in a long time! Anyway this place should be mentioned in some Hall of Fame or something. I live in Kanto, anyone knows a similar place in Tokyo?
How to get there
I am not sure if I was precise enough when giving the directions. When getting off at Osaka (Umeda) station, find the tourist information center. Then you cross the large crosswalk and it's straight all the way. As you pass Hep Navio, there are many muryousodanjou (free information kiosks for soap lands), if you have the name of the place you can ask and I think they might help you. As you go straight and have crossed 3 crosswalks (one at the tourist info center, one at hep navio and one with the Tsutaya sign on the left) there will be less and less restaurant and people. If you get lost, turn right and you'll end up on a big street, there's a Lawson there. Face the Lawson and take the street on the left of the Lawson, go straight and on your left you should see the sign of the shop I posted earlier. The shop is on the first floor.
Have fun!
Azure Knight
01-07-08, 06:14
I went to go see Mari in Tobita Friday night. The last time I was in Tobita I passed by Mari's shop, with her in it, on the way to Tomo's shop. I of course got an email full of sad smiley faces about this later.
Am I being suckered in by Mari's tactics? Perhaps? My ultimate goal with her is to arrange a deal where we meet outside of Tobita, and I can do whatever I want with her with no time constraints. If I could get that, I wouldn't mind the complete lack of GFE (so much). At one point, this almost happened, however our schedules conflicted and we couldn't get together. I figured the fact that I hadn't been to her shop in a while, plus the fact that she saw me walk right by her, may have set back any progress I might have made. So I went to see her on Friday to sort of smooth things over, and get the ball rolling again.
Friday night was PACKED in Tobita. I have never seen that many people there before. You couldn't walk without bumping into a group of guys. I'd emailed Mari and told her I would be stopping by at 7. I actually got there around 6:40, and when I got to her shop, the mamasan told me she was busy. I asked if it was ok to wait, and the mamasan said there were no rooms available to wait in, pointing at the pair of men's business shoes parked in the genkan. That was really all she needed to say - she told me to come back in 20 minutes and Mari should be available. I took the chance to walk around Tobita, see what my call rate was. As expected for a busy night: zero. When the place is crawling with Japanese guys - why waste time with a foreigner? I did notice another foreign guy making the rounds that night (one of you lurkers?), I wonder what success he had, if any.
'Round 7 I went back to Mari's place, and as the mamasan promised, she was available. We went up to the usual room, and Mari asked me about the time. At first I decided on 20 minutes, but later changed my mind to 30 for 21,000 yen. After Mari took her bathroom trip, I made it a point to check my watch for the time - it was about 7:05. If I was standing out on the street any earlier than 7:40, I'll know I was getting cheated on the time.
Mari came back, and as we undressed we had some small talk. She told me that she'd had an American customer the day before, about 23 years old (again, I'm looking at you lurkers...). I asked about the session, and she said it was "enjoyable". She said that she preferred foreigners over Japanese men, as foreigners were gentler and kinder. "Japanese guys are too rough, too cold. Foreigners are better", she said. I didn't know before if she was a girl who was foreign OK, or if I'd just managed to luck out on a slow night when I first found her.
Although the session was sort of the same as before, I noticed her opening up to me a little more. She permitted me DATY - something she'd denied me before. At first she said only a little bit, but I stayed down there a while and she didn't try to push me away. She also allowed for some kissing - nothing even remotely close to DFK, but again, this was something she hadn't let fly before. Aside from that, it was more or less the same, including my difficulty to remain hard if I wasn't actively inside one of her holes. I believe this problem is the fault of the condoms, and her mechanical nature. I also confirmed that her nice, big tits are fake - I could see the scar in the middle of her chest. Hats off to her surgeon though, they feel great.
Unlike the other times, this session didn't feel rushed. I started to feel like time was going to run out, so I came at a good point, and not long after that the buzzer rang. I noticed that Mari keeps her own personal timer, which rang at nearly the same time the mamasan sounded her buzzer. After we finished up, I again approached the idea of us meeting outside of Tobita, to which she seemed very receptive towards. So I'm going to work towards that and see what I can do. I went downstairs and quickly put on my shoes - I figured having me linger around the genkan would be potentially bad for the shop's business. As I walked away, I checked my watch - 7:43 or so. I got the time I paid for.
Basically, the point of this report is to confirm that Mari is foreigner-friendly. While she's a visual knockout, you'll get 0 GFE and she also doesn't have too much English ability. If you don't care, and basically just want to pump a good-looking Japanese girl until you cum, Mari's an option. If you're willing to stick with her, she may gradually warm up to you. I think the name of her shop is 白虎, but don't hold me to that. If you're taking the directions to the main street that I provided earlier...after you walk under the overpass, there will be a block of shops. Mari's shop is on the left, and I think the last one on the left (it's not one of the shops that sits on the corner). I believe she works everyday except Tuesdays and Wednesdays, from 5PM - 1AM. If Mari's on display, the mamasan will probably call out to you. She has long, straight, dyed hair and wears color contacts.
Azure Knight
01-07-08, 06:17
I went over older reports and it's definitely the same place that was mentionned by GK and Azure Knight. I didn't know such a gold mine existed!
The price is great, but I was a little put off by the girl I got. Worth another shot though I suppose.
For a year or so, I have known about these places called 出会い喫茶店 or Dating Coffee Shops. A buddy told me about them, and said they are coffee shops where you come in, tell the maitre d if you are alone or if you have a date, and the type of people you wish to be introduced to. Then the maitre d determines where to seat you. Other guests who have previously entered are sitting there, and if you are a suitable match, they sit you down and chat. It is for people wanting to meet others for dating.
I often see a sign for a Dating Coffee Shop near where Toukakoen is, but on the other side of the expressway, and a bit south. Also, at the northwest corner of Dotombori and Sakai-Suji, there is often a guy standing with a sign for a Dating Coffee Shop. The building across the street, on the southwest corner of Dotombori and Sakai Suji is where the establishment is, so I went in to check it out. The place is called Cululu. Here is the web site: http://www.cululu.com/ They have several branches.
Basically, Cululu is a place for freelance girls to pick up guys, and not the sort of coffee shop that had been described to me by my buddy. I chatted with a couple girls, and they quoted prices of ¥20,000 to ¥30,000. They were not willing to go back to my place, and I was not in the mood to shell out for a hotel. They were OK looking. Also, the entry price for the coffee shop is about ¥3,000 and there is another ¥3,000 fee or so if you end up going out with one of the gals. There is also an ¥8,000 or so membership fee, which I managed to get him to discount by half. He accepted so quickly, that I realized I should have asked him to waive the membership fee entirely. Perhaps this is because I was there early in the day, on a holiday, and business was slow.
Anyway, I felt like my money would be better spent at Tobita, so I passed, but if anyone checks the place out, please let me know. The proprietor said Thursday evenings are the best.
Also, if anyone knows of a proper Dating Coffee Shop along the lines my buddy told me about please let me know. Thanks.
Mak
Gifuboy:
Thanks for the heads up. That sounds like a good place, and I will give it a try. However, why don't people include the addresses for these places? Yea, addresses in Japan are a pain in the ass, but it is better than trying to navigate by 'left at the taxi, and right at the smell of the udon'. Especially once you get used to using Japanese addresses, there is a sort of bizarre logic to them.
I called and the guy said the address is Matsunoki Bldg. 11-2 Doyama-cho; Kita-ku, Osaka or 大阪北区堂山町11-2松木ビル. I am not sure of those characters for the building name. That is just a guess.
Here is the link on the map: http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?lat=34.70028&lon=135.50730083&sc=1&mode=map&type=scroll
Does that look right? Thanks again.
Mak
Saint of Killers,
How to get there
I am not sure if I was precise enough when giving the directions. When getting off at Osaka (Umeda) station, find the tourist information center.
Have fun!
Mak Daddy,
I looked at the map and it looks right. There are many 無料相談所(soap land information office) near it, I am sure if you mention the name of the place someone will give you directions. Name of the shop is エステ桃花園(esute toukaen). I'm looking forward to hear from you about the service.
Another map :
http://www.f-navi.co.jp/kintarou/map.htm
Their homepage
http://www.f-navi.co.jp/kintarou/index.htm
Gifuboy:
Thanks for the heads up. That sounds like a good place, and I will give it a try. However, why don't people include the addresses for these places? Yea, addresses in Japan are a pain in the ass, but it is better than trying to navigate by 'left at the taxi, and right at the smell of the udon'. Especially once you get used to using Japanese addresses, there is a sort of bizarre logic to them.
I called and the guy said the address is Matsunoki Bldg. 11-2 Doyama-cho; Kita-ku, Osaka or 大阪北区堂山町11-2松木ビル. I am not sure of those characters for the building name. That is just a guess.
Here is the link on the map: http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?lat=34.70028&lon=135.50730083&sc=1&mode=map&type=scroll
Does that look right? Thanks again.
Mak
Here is the link on the map: http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?lat=34.70028&lon=135.50730083&sc=1&mode=map&type=scroll
Does that look right? Thanks again.Yep. That's the place.
Saint Of Killers
01-08-08, 15:36
Mak: actually I did post the address earlier to "Kinbana", er which I now think is actually Kinka now that I look at the card. Either way, Kinka and Toukakoen are right beside each other so either address works. Like I mentioned in my earlier posts, there are about six shops here that you can visit (two on the ground floor of the two buildings, and more if you use the elevator) so there are plenty of places to check out. We've gotten reports on Kinka (3F) and Toukakoen (1F). Anyone wanna TOFT and try out the other places? I've never been to them.
Mak: actually I did post the address earlier to "Kinbana", er which I now think is actually Kinka now that I look at the card. Either way, Kinka and Toukakoen are right beside each other so either address works. Like I mentioned in my earlier posts, there are about six shops here that you can visit (two on the ground floor of the two buildings, and more if you use the elevator) so there are plenty of places to check out. We've gotten reports on Kinka (3F) and Toukakoen (1F). Anyone wanna TOFT and try out the other places? I've never been to them.
Take care of which floor you are on or you might end up with a real surprise...there is a New Half place there as well.
[Just in case New Half is unclear to you newbies and think it is similar to half&half, well...let's just say the lower half won't be what you expected]
Take care of which floor you are on or you might end up with a real surprise...there is a New Half place there as well.
Well, that certainly sounds like something different.
Mak Daddy,
Their homepage
http://www.f-navi.co.jp/kintarou/index.htm
That is one hell of a home page. I suddenly felt a bit more 'urgency' to visit. God bless the Internet.
Gifuboy: I tried to PM you, but it says you are not able to receive PMs. Please send me a PM, or change your settings and let me know. Thanks.
Mak
Azure Knight
01-09-08, 09:02
Their homepage
http://www.f-navi.co.jp/kintarou/index.htm
Huh. Didn't know they had a website.
Having actually seen a lot of these girls in person, all I can say is: incredible photoshopping.
I'm tempted to go again myself (can't deny the great price). Again gentlemen, I would recommend avoiding Koko, she wasn't very good.
As someone mentionned, yes there are many shops in the same building. I went to the 5th floor and I was told all girls are gaijin(i.e western), the guy told me there was no FS so I passed.
Regarding Toukaen I like their "motto", Cheap, Young, Pretty, Glamour and good service. As far as I'm concerned I give them 5/5.
Mak Daddy :
I was in Osaka for a vacation(I live in Yokohama), I really envy you guys living in Osaka! I am not a paying member so I can't receive/send PM sorry. I really wish such a place existed somewhere in Kanto.
Well, that certainly sounds like something different.
That is one hell of a home page. I suddenly felt a bit more 'urgency' to visit. God bless the Internet.
Gifuboy: I tried to PM you, but it says you are not able to receive PMs. Please send me a PM, or change your settings and let me know. Thanks.
Mak
Mak Daddy :
I was in Osaka for a vacation(I live in Yokohama), I really envy you guys living in Osaka! I am not a paying member so I can't receive/send PM sorry. I really wish such a place existed somewhere in Kanto.
電話頂戴：零九零ノ五四六九ノ七六七五
宜しく。
マック
Azure Knight
01-23-08, 08:13
I had an inexplicable urge for a non-Japanese girl yesterday. I've lived in Japan for a few years now, and I guess after so many Japanese girls, I came to want a change of scenery. I know that Russian/European girls are YMMV...but then again so are Japanese girls, so you never know. I was willing to give it a shot at least.
Searching databases in Osaka, I was only able to find two listings. A delivery health place called Real (http://www.real-net.tv/index2.html - all in Japanese) and a place called Amuse (http://www.amuse-osaka.com/top/index.html) which was hotel and delivery health, with various shops around Osaka. I'm not really a deli-heru man, so I decided to try Amuse. There were two locations in Umeda - one in a place I'll call "Bunny Field", and another in Doyama - I suspected it was very close, or even in the same building, as Toukaen (the Chinese place). The Bunny Field place had more girls I was interested in, so I decided to try that one first, and if I struck out there, head to Doyama. If that was a no-go too, then I could always just pop into Toukaen.
I went out to Bunny Field, but after an hour of searching I couldn't find the place. After using my cell to figure out the name of the building it was in and get a better map, I figured out why - it was in the 5th floor of a somewhat bland building, and there were no signs or advertisements whatsoever. It was like they didn't want to be found. I went up to the 5th floor and found the room they're supposed to be in. There was an open door and what seemed like a reception area, but that was about it. Certainly didn't look like any service shop. I decided to err on the side of caution and phoned the shop number. A Japanese guy answered, and I asked if they were open for business and if I could confirm their location. He told me they were open, but they didn't accept foreigners (I'd only said two sentences but he found me out...). Oh well, no use pushing the issue. I walked to Doyama, which isn't far from Bunny Field at all.
I love Doyama. It's so sleazy.
I was right - it was in the same building as Toukaen (I see now that this is the place that Gifuboy wandered into). Again, no advertisements, signs, nothing. On the 5th floor there was a slightly open door, and a single Japanese guy. I greeted him and asked if it would be okay. He said yeah, and I went in. "This is a place that specializes in foreign women, you know." he tells me, and I told him I knew, I'd looked it up on the internet. He checks to see if I know what I've wondered into, and I tell him I do. He also points out that this is "health", which means only BJ, no FS. I tell him I know that as well. His fears eased, he tells me he has no problems with me...but he'll have to check with the girls, as many of them don't want to accept funny guys. As I'm thinking it, the guy verbalizes my thoughts - "And that's pretty odd, isn't it? They're foreigners themselves, and their boyfriends are foreign, but they don't want to service foreign guys."
He has me sit down while he phones the girls who are working tonight. One or two are unavailable - already busy. One declines - too embarrasing, she apparently says. Another one declines - fear of me being too big. The guy finally finds a girl who is willing to do it, but apparently not without a few reservations. He shows me a picture of the girl - not entirely bad, but that's post-photoship after all. He shows me the courses - he recommends the 60 minute course at 18,000 yen, plus 3,000 for the hotel. I'd kind of lost my motivation at this point - but the guy had really gone to bat for me, something that's really rare among Japanese touts. Besides, this is what I'd come to do. So I accepted, but asked to do the 45 minute course at 16,000 yen as I didn't have much time.
The guy and I start to talk for a bit. His name is Yoshi. He asks if I'm familiar with the industry, and I say that I am. "But you probably get turned down quite a bit, huh?" he says. "Most guys are worried that foreigners don't speak Japanese and don't understand the system and might bring the whole thing down. If you can speak Japanese and say that you've been to these places before, usually that helps to calm down both the tout and the girl". I tell him that I understood that there were various other reasons why foreigners get denied as well. "See, me," he says, "I think everybody should be able to play. White, black, yellow, whatever. We're all guys, right? And when I go overseas, I wanna play around too, so I certainly understand that feeling." Yoshi is a very cool cat in my book.
After waiting 5 minute s (as per the girl's request) we head off for the hotel. Yoshi again points out how weird it is for foreign men not to be able to get service at a shop with foreign women. Regarding the girls, he says that a lot of them are smaller than he imagined foreign girls to be. Like, he wanted to get "bigger" girls like "Britney Spears", but they always ended up kind of Japan-sized. "And so they don't really like big cocks, and prefer Japanese customers". He also explains that some of it has to do with the police. "The police think, if you've got a shop with foreign women and foreign guys patronize it...why is this happening on Japanese soil? Go back to your own country and do that there. So they're always watching us very carefully. In fact, the entire industry sits of the edge of a needle, and it would'nt take much for everything to come crashing down. You just never know if one day you wake up and you're gonna be out of a job."
Yoshi talks more as we walk. Turns out he's also the landlord for an apartment building where many foreign residents reside in Osaka. He explains it can be difficult, because foreigners have selfish requests. "I'll get a call at 3AM...someone's air conditioner broke, come and fix it. But, y'know...it's 3AM man! What can I do at 3AM? If I don't do things the way they want it, they can get pretty angry." He also explains that this is a reason why its tough for foreigners to break into the sex industry. "They're pretty big...I mean, I'm not small myself, but nobody wants to be threatened. They always say "yakuza, yakuza"...whatever. At the end of the day, we're just trying to make our living."
We get to the hotel, and Yoshi helps me pick out a room. He decides to give me an extra 5 mins of service, for 50 minutes. He gives me his card and tells me to drop by the office anytime...even if I don't want to pick out a girl, just come and say hi, as the job gets boring. I head up to my room and wait for the girl to arrive. Its a very, very nice hotel, one I wouldn't mind going to again. After weaving through so many side streets, I'm not sure which one it was - just somewhere in Doyama.
After 5 minutes, the girl I picked...er...the girl who would have me arrived. Her name was Sari. (http://www.amuse-osaka.com/gals/sari/index.html) She looked decent in clothes, but as the clothes came off, the photoshopping became more and more evident. I could tell she used to be a real hottie...back when she actually was 26. Now, she had to at least be in her 30's if not 40's. Oh well, it still wasn't too bad.
After the shower we had some various play on the bed including a little sumata, and then CBJ. She let me finger her, but no DATY. After I popped, she lay down next to me and talked for awhile about various things. She said she was from Columbia - exposing another lie on the website (which says she's from Romania). She took a few phone calls in Spanish afterwards, which confirmed that. I probably could have gotten another shot in...but I felt satisfied, and I really didn't have the time. We showered again, dressed, and left the hotel.
Overall, not bad, but not great either. It was good for getting the foreigner lust out of my system at least. I'm probably done with European/Western girls again for awhile, although I would like to pop into Toukaen in the near future. I think I will also pay Yoshi a visit. He was a really, really cool guy, and it seems like there's a lot about the industry I could learn from him.
Super Flu8
01-23-08, 14:02
I am looking for girls near JR Nara station. Preferably mature and or chubby. Does anyone know where I can go? Also, I dont speak Japanese.
I appreciate all your help.
Thanks
I had an inexplicable urge for a non-Japanese girl yesterday. I've lived in Japan for a few years now, and I guess after so many Japanese girls, I came to want a change of scenery. I know that Russian/European girls are YMMV...but then again so are Japanese girls, so you never know. I was willing to give it a shot at least.
Though the experience was so-so, the info from your tencho was worth it. Curious which language you were using with La Colombiana.
Here is another couple reports from 2 years back. The hotel health was cheap at first look, but she wanted another 10,000 for FS.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=378322&highlight=russian#post378322
After 5 minutes, the girl I picked...er...the girl who would have me arrived. Her name was Sari. (http://www.amuse-osaka.com/gals/sari/index.html) She looked decent in clothes, but as the clothes came off, the photoshopping became more and more evident. I could tell she used to be a real hottie...back when she actually was 26. Now, she had to at least be in her 30's if not 40's. Oh well, it still wasn't too bad.
After the shower we had some various play on the bed including a little sumata, and then CBJ.
Nice report AK. Yoshi certainly does sound like a cool guy. But one detail you omitted - what about that "vacuum fellatio" mentioned in the description of Sari's specialty? If not, can we trust the blood type being an A? Dang!
Azure Knight
01-25-08, 02:23
Though the experience was so-so, the info from your tencho was worth it. Curious which language you were using with La Colombiana.
We spoke in Japanese. She didn't know English and I don't know Spanish. She said she'd been in Japan for 4 years but her Japanese wasn't that great - I had to keep my sentences very basic or else she wouldn't understand.
And vacuum BJ? It wasn't bad but it didn't strike me as "vacuum" either.
The tencho was definitely a great find. He told me that if I ever needed anything to just ask him. I doubt I'd want to have another go with Sari again (or any of the other girls there), but he could probably help me get into other shops with his connections, or if nothing else, having a Japanese guy willing to vouch for me.
Friendly Gaijin
01-29-08, 14:39
This week SPA Magazine has an article on how to play with little money, and they recommend (for Japanese readers) to always bring a can of coffee for the guy at the reception (page 76). Next thing you know he becomes Tencho and does you all kind of favors, since careers in the business can be rather quick.
I don't know if that approach would work for us as well, just thought it might be worth noting in the context of your report.
Definitely their job is not always easy. It is not much fun being rejected. But the person who needs to tell me about that policy probably doesn't enjoy it either.
Thanks for your report. It is nice to hear about good guys on the other side of the counter.
Overall, not bad, but not great either. It was good for getting the foreigner lust out of my system at least. I'm probably done with European / Western girls again for awhile, although I would like to pop into Toukaen in the near future. I think I will also pay Yoshi a visit. He was a really, really cool guy, and it seems like there's a lot about the industry I could learn from him.
I found a website (Wiki style) that has the information about the Red Light Districts in Kansai area, including Tobita, Matsushima, etc. Unfortunately, it is in Japanese and it will take pretty much time to translate it, BUT it has maps and prices/hour can be guessed by looking numbers.
http://www.tokyosecret.tv/wiki/index.php?FrontPage
Districts are divided by Prefecture on the left side. I hope it helps, and people who go there can share their experiences. If I have some free time I will try to translate some of the info, and of course will try to go around.
Good Luck!
I found a website (Wiki style) that has the information about the Red Light Districts in Kansai area, including Tobita, Matsushima, etc. Unfortunately, it is in Japanese and it will take pretty much time to translate it, BUT it has maps and prices/hour can be guessed by looking numbers.
http://www.tokyosecret.tv/wiki/index.php?FrontPage
Districts are divided by Prefecture on the left side. I hope it helps, and people who go there can share their experiences. If I have some free time I will try to translate some of the info, and of course will try to go around.
Good Luck!
You can try this website: http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/
You put the URL from the site you want to translate to English in, and then make sure the Japanese to English button is selected (just below the place to put the URL it's the button to the right), and then hit return. It opens up a new window with a machine translation of the page you entered. The translations are far from perfect (any native speaker of English can see the problems right away even if you don't understand Japanese) but you can get a good distance this way if you can't read any Japanese. It works for some websites and not others, in my experience. But it's worth a try. I tried it for the above website and it worked pretty well. I'll post this and related info in the translation forum as well for others.
Stew2
Azure Knight
02-06-08, 09:47
Some sad news: Tomo no longer works in Tobita.
I saw this coming when she mentioned changing her hours due to her nursing job, and when she said she had no customers in the daytime. I'd hoped to pay her a visit tonight and ask her about her future at the shop, but when I phoned in the mamasan told me she'd quit. I'd also wanted to get some sort of contact info, so that we could hopefully work out a private arrangement, but I was too slow.
Tomo was truly magnificent, and I'm saddened to hear this. I only know she's quit that particular shop in Tobita. If any of you happen to stumble across her in your mongerings, please do report it. I'd love to find her again.
Also, reading on the message board for Tobita (in Japanese), it looks like Mari has vanished as well. I sent her an email a few minutes ago, but come to think of it I haven't heard from her in awhile. According to one post, the rumor is she took some pills and tried to commit suicide, and is in the hospital now. Wow.
Man, all my great options are just vanishing.
Nice web site! Thanks for that.
I found a website (Wiki style) that has the information about the Red Light Districts in Kansai area, including Tobita, Matsushima, etc. Unfortunately, it is in Japanese and it will take pretty much time to translate it, BUT it has maps and prices/hour can be guessed by looking numbers.
http://www.tokyosecret.tv/wiki/index.php?FrontPage
Districts are divided by Prefecture on the left side. I hope it helps, and people who go there can share their experiences. If I have some free time I will try to translate some of the info, and of course will try to go around.
Good Luck!
This actually works really well in a lot of situations in Japan, from bicycle repair shops to security guards. I think part of why it works so well here is because tips are so unusual, money would be an insult, but the thought is appreciated.
This week SPA Magazine has an article on how to play with little money, and they recommend (for Japanese readers) to always bring a can of coffee for the guy at the reception (page 76).
I finally made it to this place. I brought a buddy, and we each had a girl. Mine was named Yukimi, and she was from Hong Kong. Her English was excellent, which is a strike against a woman in Japan as far as I am concerned. However, she was really lovely to speak with. She warned me that if I see her out and about not to mention where we met because she would be embarrassed in front of her foreign friends.
The sex however was another matter: horrible. She would not do anything, but I enjoyed it just the same. Fuck, I must be getting old.
Also, speaking of old fuckers, the old fucker at the door is a complete asshole. Afterwards, my buddy and I went to a bar, and met this French guy in town for one night, and he wanted me to show him the place, so I took him back. The old guy was saying shit like, "Who is willing to fuck a foreigner?" I was going to go for a second round, but the old guy was such an asshole. As soon as I walked up, he called Yukimi out like she was the only one who could talk to me (my Japanese is virtually native in conversational situations)
I think the problem was that Yukimi was complaining the entire time that my dick was too big, and afterwards was saying that to the staff. I am average (at least that is what I tell myself!). I was complaining to the boss about the old guy, and the boss said they had trouble with the old guy all the time. He said to ask for him, Mr. Hongai, if I have any trouble in the future. I went away, and telephoned and asked for Mr. Hongai. He told me to wait 10 minutes and come back, but I was too tired and went home. Definitely a good place, and I will return, but I will call first. I would give them 4 or 4.5 out of five because I like Japanese or Koreans better.
Anybody been to Imazato? I heard there is some fun out there.
Looks like I am tying the knot. Anybody up for a bachelor party?
Mak
Regarding Toukaen I like their "motto", Cheap, Young, Pretty, Glamour and good service. As far as I'm concerned I give them 5/5.
Sure enough, I made this mistake. I was a bit drunk, plus the signs are misleading because the Toukakoen sign is above the sign for the place on the second floor. You should have seen the look I got when I got off the elevator on the second floor. I quickly realized my mistake and made a hasty retreat downstairs.
Take care of which floor you are on or you might end up with a real surprise...there is a New Half place there as well.
[Just in case New Half is unclear to you newbies and think it is similar to half&half, well...let's just say the lower half won't be what you expected]
Azure Knight
02-07-08, 01:37
Looks like I am tying the knot. Anybody up for a bachelor party?
Mak
Congrats! I may be in the same boat as you this year. I'd be up for some final debauchery.
Final? Who am I kidding!
I had a much better experience last night at Toukaen than you did apparently. Report in a minute.
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