Kansai: Kobe-Osaka-Nara-Kyoto

[Azure Knight]

As I mentioned before, suddenly I'd lost my two best options in Tobita - Tomo who was just fantastic all around, and Mari, who lacked GFE but at least looked sensational. Losing Tomo is a bit of a shock, as she was honestly one of the best girls I've ever had the good fortune of meeting. The news prompted me to go search for new options. Tobita was always a bit of a gamble - would I even be accepted? I thought back to Toukaen - I'd wanted to give it another shot, and this seemed like a good opportunity to do so. Ultimately, I decided to give Tobita a try first - it was a cold, rainy day, mid-week, and not around any paydays. I figured there wouldn't be as many people, which is ideal for us foreign mongers. I'd keep my standards high, and if I struck out I'd just head to Toukaen. One of the last times I'd gone to Tobita it had been full of guys, and I'd gotten zero calls. Had it not been for my pre-arrangement with Mari, I doubt I would have gotten in at all that night. But I remembered a few months ago when I succeeded at two shops with two different girls (Mako and Suzu), so the situation wasn't totally hopeless.

As I anticipated, there weren't very many guys there. A lot of the shops on the outer perimeter were closed. Most of these are the shops with the old women, so no big loss there. I headed for main street - I passed by Mari's shop, and even if the mamasan recognized me, she didn't call out to me. Passing by Tomo's old shop, neither a girl or mamasan were present. No choice but to keep moving ahead. I wasn't getting any calls - most mamasan would kind of turn their heads away from me, or they'd start to call out, realize that I was foreign, and then catch themselves and laugh over their "mistake". Some girls would actively look away, while a few kind of smiled at me. I decided that if I were to make a second run down this street, I'd try talking to the girls who smiled at me. This is how I succeeded with Mako a few months ago.

As I walked there were a pair of Japanese guys behind me, also making the rounds. I figured that whatever calls I might have gotten were being snuffed out by the presence of these guys. I tried to slow down and let them pass me - they did, but ended up stopping and I overtook them again. I couldn't walk too fast, or else I really wouldn't get any calls. The guys were really pissing me off. I walked down to the end of the street, made a left, and started to come back up one of the streets parallel to the main street in order to get away. I hadn't been on the parallel street long until I heard a mamasan call out to me. I looked into the shop - the girl was nice looking. Dyed hair, a bit of a gal flavor. I've got an invite, the girl looks good - what more do I need? I went in.

As I was taking my shoes off, the mamasan says that I've come here before. Have I? I confess that I'm not really familiar with the shop names. She says she definintely remembers me. I go upstairs with the girl. She's a little short, and wearing lingerie with a balloon flare, so I'm not sure what kind of body she's hiding underneath. The shop does start to look a little familiar, and I realize I probably have been here before. It was either Mako or Suzu, but I couldn't remember which one. We go into her room, and she asks me about pricing. I don't want to waste money on what could be a dud, so I pick the 20 minute course at 16,000 yen. This was the basic course. Is it just me, or are more shops phasing out the 15 minute, 11,000 yen course? The girl goes away with the money, and as I wait for her to return, I notice a "Tobita 50th Anniversary" calendar on the wall.

She comes back with the tea and sweets and introduces herself as Makoto, giving me her card. We chat for a bit - the usual banter when meeting a girl for the first time. I was worried about chat time cutting into play time, but Makoto stopped the chat at a decent point and moved us to the futon. She'd noted how tall and large I am, and sort of worried that I'd be big down there as well. She apologized in advance if she wasn't able to take me in. She took off her clothes, and I saw that she had quite a nice body. She got right to business with a CBJ. After awhile, she lubed herself up and went to get on top. I asked if she wanted to 69, but she apologized, saying she'd already put on the lube. Oh well, next time. She gets on top and rides me for a bit - her pussy feels nice, and is really warm. At one point, I go to suck on her tits, but she stops me - "Tits are no good" she says. I don't press her as to why. A little disappointing, but oh well. Also, some light kissing, but no DFK.

After a while, we switch to missionary. Part of the way through, she says "itai!" (it hurts) and stops me. I ask if she's OK, and she says she just dried up and puts on some more lube. "I use this too much, so it dries out quickly" she explains. Not exactly what I want to hear, but OK. We continue with no problems after that. I'd hoped to do some other positions, but I don't know - maybe it was the lighting, the angle, something, but Makoto looked absolutely beautiful on her back. It was a great sight. I kept her in missionary, and she got off shortly before I did. She had me lie back down while she took care of the clean-up.

We both got dressed, and as she put her clothes on she repeats that I've been to this shop before. She says that the girl I saw the last time was Suzu (that solves that mystery) and starts telling me when Suzu works (I immediately forgot). I asked about when she works - she told me her days off (forgot those too!) and that she works pretty much from 9AM to 11PM, with a break around 5PM. Wow. I do know at least she works Wednesdays, which also happens to be Suzu's day off. After we got dressed she continued to talk some more, with her asking me various things about my life here. She tells me that her skin used to be pretty dark too, from always being outside. "I liked to play around" she explains, and told me that sometimes in Roppongi the African guys would mistake her for a black girl. Wow, now that's dark! And, any girl who liked to play in Roppongi was definintely foreigner friendly. Works for us.

Interesting though that she knew about my session with Suzu. Maybe she'd been sitting in the genkan when we finished up? Or perhaps Suzu or the mamasan had been talking about me. Positive things, I hope. Remember that Suzu is the girl with whom the condom broke and I jizzed inside of her. So hopefully my fame at this shop isn't how I got her pregnant. I really really hope at least.

As the buzzer had gone off twice while we were talking, we went downstairs. Only the 20 minute course, but I was able to get in a good session with plenty of chatting time. The mamsan told me to take my time in putting on my shoes, and even handed me a package of mints on my way out. I thought that was very nice of her. I left thanking them both and assuring them I'd be back.

The name of the shop is 龍子. If you go into Tobita from the street with the "Bread and Food" convenience store, take the directions that lead you to "Main Street" - walk straight down, cross the big street with the gas station on your right, then take a right at the next street. Walk under the overpass - if you keep straight here, this leads to main street. However, to get to 龍子, turn left after you walk under the overpass, and then turn right on the next street (should be parallel to main street). The shop I believe is on the left side. Apparently, foreigner friendly, although the girl who was sitting in the genkan when I finished up with Makoto sort of kept her head down the entire time I was there.

Makoto's only average on the GFE (perhaps will warm to you given time?). Has a nice body and is attractive if you like the gal look. She looks absolutely stunning on her back. Suzu isn't quite as attractive, but if you've ever wanted to ram a petite girl hard...I don't think I've ever fucked a girl as hard as I fucked Suzu. Just be sure the condom doesn't break. Suzu's GFE is also better than Makoto's.

Overally, I enjoyed my session with Makoto, but my night of mongering wasn't over yet.

[Azure Knight]

i'd just finished an overall enjoyable session with makoto in tobita, but this really only served to invigorate me. in my mind, i'd sort of figured that i would end up at toukaen, after striking out at tobita. i hadn't struck out, but i was still thinking about toukaen. it wasn't too out of the way on my way home, and it was cheap to boot. my experience with koko had been disappointing, but some of the other guys here seemed to have great experiences there. i decided to swing by and give it another chance.

i walk up the hall, and the guys spot me pretty quickly. they lead me to the couch and confirm that i can speak japanese, and 10,000 yen for 40 minutes. the guy says he'll bring out the girls. as he goes into the office area, i can see a few girls craning their heads around the door to get a peek at me. a minute or so later, three girls come out and stand in front of me. "which would you like?" the guy asks. only three? oh well. all three looked pretty good. last time, i'd made the mistake of picking the most outspoken girl, hoping that energy would carry over on the bed, and it didn't. sometimes when you get the lineup, there's a girl who just kind of looks at you, and maybe doesn't say much or doesn't try to get all up in your face, but you just get that vibe - "pick me!" she's saying in her head. i was looking for that tonight, and i seemed to get it from the girl on the far left. she was also quite attractive, so it was an easy choice. she took me by the hand and led me into the back. i could hear a girl nearby getting the treatment. we'd barely gotten into the small little room when one of her friends comes through the curtain. the friend said something in chinese - i know no chinese, but i figure what she said was along the lines of "i want in on this too!" a very brief discussion in chinese, then the girl i picked asked if i wanted to do a threesome. "they're very common here" she explains. the friend is also attractive, and at this point the girl i picked starts pawing at me a little bit. "just an extra 10,000 yen, and you can have the two of us for 40 minutes." the friend isn't pawing at me, but i feel the vibe from her as well.

i've done some mongering in thailand. a lot of times, you'll get girls who approach you very aggressively, and even in pairs. i tried it only to find that, much like koko, they spend all their energy in the sale - once they've got you, they really don't care. that was making me weary of this situation, but honestly, after the session with makoto i can't say the blood had fully returned to my brain. the two girls kept pushing the threesome - i pulled out my wallet to show i didn't have enough on me. they asked if i had my bank cards on me. i said i had my credit card. they both said that the shop doesn't accept credit cards, and they seemed willing to let the matter drop there. but they'd already sort of sold me on the 3p, so i asked if it was okay to go get money from the bank. they agreed to that, and asked one of the guys up front to go with me to a convenience store. we walked to the nearby lawson, with some small talk as i pulled out the extra 10,000.

i got back to toukaen, and both girls were waiting for me. the girl i picked again took me by the hand and led me to the small room. "okay, get undressed" she instructed, and i started to get out of my clothes. she stood on the bed and was out of her clothes in a hurry. the friend also undressed, but kept her bra and shorts on for whatever reason. as i undressed, the girl i picked seemed fascinated by my body, and kept saying things in chinese to the friend (i need to start studying chinese). the friend, yume, led me to the showers while the girl i picked, youko, stayed behind to wait.

yume showered me, still wearing her bra and shorts. she took me back to the room and had me sit up on the bed. youko came up from behind me, again seemingly fascinated with my body. however, soon the girls start laughing about something, looking at the wall behind me. i look as well, and the fingertips of the girl next door are visible as she grabs the top of the wall. discussion in chinese between the three, but it doesn't take a language genius to figure that conversation out - what are you doing over there?

back to the three of us, both youko and yume marveled over my japanese abilities, something they'd been doing since i got there. i explained that i'd been living her for awhile, and studied for a few years before that. youko says that its rare for americans to speak japanese - just yesterday, there was an american there, but he couldn't speak any japanese. youko and yume were pretty fluent in japanese - thinking back, i don't think koko was that fluent. youko says she's pleased she can communicate with me, before giving me a dfk and having me lie down on the bed. i was expecting a massage like i'd gotten the last time - nope. they got straight to business.

yume had put a condom on me in record time, and was giving me a cbj. youko stayed up front and alternated between licking my nipples, and dfk. after a few minutes, they switched up - youko hadn't seen me erect up until this point, and she seemed happy about my size. she pulled the condom off, and i thought she was going to put on another one, but instead she attacked my cock with an amazing bbbj. meanwhile, yume and i sucked on each other's nipples while i fingered her. "you want to put it in?" yume asks. well, that's a question with an easy answer. i say i do, and youko wastes no time in slapping on a raincoat and hopping on top. i feel her breasts with my left hand, keep my right hand for fingering yume which licking her tits. yume uses her free hand to play with my balls as youko rides me.

after a few minutes its switching time again. again, i'm amazed at the speed at which these girls can take off and remove condoms. yume gets on top of me and rides while youko lays at my side for tit licking and dfk. yume says she's going to cum, and upon hearing that i take over motion duties, and give yume dfk and tit licking while youko licks my nipples and plays with my balls with her free hand. yume cums, and with all this stimulation i can't hold out either and i cum as well. the girls both clean me up, and lay at my sides afterwards. "you feel like a king, huh?" youko says. i was hoping to get another shot in, but youko says unfortunately there's not enough time. "and i really wanted you to fuck me in missionary too" she says, "you gotta do that next time."

i go to the showers with both girls this time for a final clean-up. youko continues to paw at me, saying a have a sexy ass, and even biting it! "i just love foreigners, love em!" she says many times. she also continues to give me dfk's here and there. we finish the shower, go back and get dress, and youko is still all over me. "you're coming back, right?" she gives me a card for the shop and writes their names on it. i ask when do they work - everyday, they say. well, that's easy. both youko and yume see me off as i leave.

overall, absoultely incredible experience. i am a fan of toukaen now. or, at least of these two girls. wonderful threesome for 40 minutes with 2 showers and the damage is only 20,000 yen. that's just...astounding. i've paid more for less time with just one girl. i will be going back as soon as possible.

the only problem is, as you can imagine space is a bit cramped. i checked their website and they don't seem to have any delivery options, but perhaps if i become a good enough customer i can negotiate to move the festivities to one of the nearby love hotels.

[Lion]

??, turn left after you walk under the
How do you get your kanji to stay when you post? Mine always turns into ????????? (looks like your kanji turned into ?? even though I was just quoting you.

Any tech guys out there?

[Mak Daddy]

I have paid more than that for dinner, and did not even like the girl. Fuck.


Wonderful threesome for 40 minutes with 2 showers and the damage is only 20,000 yen. That's just...astounding. I've paid more for less time with just one girl.

[Shomohin]

Toukaen

<snip>

The only problem is, as you can imagine space is a bit cramped. I checked their website and they don't seem to have any delivery options, but perhaps if I become a good enough customer I can negotiate to move the festivities to one of the nearby love hotels.

Great report, AK. I know Youko and she is exactly as you describe. I really appreciate that she knows how to put a condom on quickly, as this is sometimes where I can stall out if it takes too long, or is too troublesome.

Toukaen definitely has a take-out service, I spoke with Youko about it. I THOUGHT I saw mention of it on the card she gave me, too but I don't have it nearby to confirm. Take a look at yours and see. The rates are exactly the same as in-store, but of course one has to pay the hotel as extra, and presumably the clock starts ticking as you depart from the shop together. Still it would be nice to be in more commodious environment. The shop is pretty cramped and you can hear all the banging going on in the next stall.

[Gyaos]

How do you get your kanji to stay when you post? Mine always turns into ????????? (looks like your kanji turned into ?? even though I was just quoting you. Any tech guys out there?

It's the difference between reading and posting 1 byte character text (like the USA) and 2-byte character text (like Japan). It's based on your location, your OS (operating system standard) and what you are sending.

Jackson's ISG site is a 1-byte character format. Therefore you require software to post the characters into 1-byte format, your OS to read it as 1-byte, and a browser that can identify the characters as 1-byte. I recommend Firefox over all others, but check your OS. The ??? comes up because you are transmitting (and reading) 2-byte to 1-byte. It has to be 1-byte to 1 byte.

There are some sites like Yuri in Nippori (Tokyo.....yeah I know this is the Osaka thread) that has a 2-byte character interface and even a browser cannot identify, so it looks like gibberish. Then you'll require an additional special Japanese reader software OS ad-on, not a browser ad-on, an OS (operating system) ad on that will interface with the browser.. Google it, there are loads.

P.S.: The web in Japan defaults on 1-byte, but I'm sure someone has hit that button next to the smallest space bar on the planet, right? Then it turns into 2-byte Japanese characters.

Good Luck.

Gyaos.

[Azure Knight]

Lion: Also check your OS and browser to make sure that Japanese language support is enabled. For older versions of Windows you had to download a language pack but most OS's these days come with it pre-installed.


Toukaen definitely has a take-out service, I spoke with Youko about it. I THOUGHT I saw mention of it on the card she gave me, too but I don't have it nearby to confirm. Take a look at yours and see.
You're right, they do. I sort of had a lapse in common sense - I was thinking "why would they send one girl, much less two, off with a guy they barely know to some hotel in the seediest part of town?" Then I realized that this is more or less the essence of delivery health, and is no big deal here in Japan.

The next time I go I think I'm going to utilize the "take out" option. Luckily there are plenty of hotels in the area so we won't have far to go, which saves time. The big issue are the small beds - cramped for two, very difficult for three. Even factoring in the cost of the hotel its still cheaper than a lot of 2P options out there.

[Lion]

Lion: Also check your OS and browser to make sure that Japanese language support is enabled. For older versions of Windows you had to download a language pack but most OS's these days come with it pre-installed.


You're right, they do. I sort of had a lapse in common sense - I was thinking "why would they send one girl, much less two, off with a guy they barely know to some hotel in the seediest part of town?" Then I realized that this is more or less the essence of delivery health, and is no big deal here in Japan.

The next time I go I think I'm going to utilize the "take out" option. Luckily there are plenty of hotels in the area so we won't have far to go, which saves time. The big issue are the small beds - cramped for two, very difficult for three. Even factoring in the cost of the hotel its still cheaper than a lot of 2P options out there.

If you do get a 3P going, bring your camera along!


I am using Safari w/ Mac OSX and can type/read Japanese w/o problem. But when I submit to the ISG or a cut and paste it comes out as ???? (same if I type, but I think chosing a different size menu will help).

I just tested every mode I know and no luck.

???

[Mak Daddy]

Definitely switch to Firefox. I am using OSX too, and used Safari for a while until I found Firefox. If you get Firefox, definitely download the Tab Mix Plus add-on. I don't know why they don't just include that.

Some years back Wired Magazine ranked Firefox as the best discovery on the Internet, and gmail as #2.

Mak


I am using Safari w/ Mac OSX and can type/read Japanese w/o

[Azure Knight]

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/wiki/index.php?FrontPage
When I have time, I'll try to translate some of these pages. I'll start with the first page, Tobita.

Tobita Shinchi (Osaka Prefecture)
The infamous Tobita. You should definintely go at least once.
Its safe to say that the line up here is the treasure of Osaka.

Location
Osaka-shi Nishinasri-ku Yamaou
The closest station to Tobita Shinchi is the Doubutsuen-mae station on the subway, exit No. 2.

Map

[Map Here]

Regarding the arrows on the map, from the top going clock-wise is the Tobita Shinchi Street of Youth (plenty of cute and young girls), Tobita Shinchi Main Street (full selection), Tobita Shinchi Daimon Street, Hyakuban Izakaya, Ghost Street 2 (there are a lot of older women, but sometimes you'll be surprised to find a cute, young girl), and Ghost Street 1 (same as Ghost Street 2).

Message Board

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/cgi/shinchi/wforum.cgi?file=1
Latest updates and information on Tobita Shinchi

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/cgi/shinchi/wforum.cgi?file=10
The first Shinchi in Kansai to feature a message board for the working girls.
Features questions for those who are curious about working in Tobita.
You can leave messages without displaying your email address, and there's also a private message box.

Explanation
I think there are about 100 shops in Tobita (I've never actually counted)
If your car isn't too big, you can make the rounds by car.
But the streets are narrow and there are plenty of people walking about, so do be extra careful.
As for how to play, as there are plenty of girls sitting and showing their face along the street,
First, just wander around and find a girl you like.
They're especially proficient at adjusting the light just right to make the girl look cute.
As for how to play well, a tip is if you find a girl you think is cute, just go right in.
If you decide to check around and come back to her later, you may be saddened to find that someone else has taken her - this happens often.
(But if you wait a little while, she's probably come back out again.)
For the girls who are sitting, after a little while they switch of.
If no one's sitting in the genkan but the lights are on, it means that the girl at that shop is currently busy with a customer.
If you find a girl you like, step inside the shop and begin talks with the mamasan.
If you don't like the situation after all, you can always leave.
You can bargain the price a little, but asking for too much will get you nowhere.

If talks are successful, you'll go up to the rooms on the second floor.
It's a 4-tatami mat room with a futon and table.

There is no shower.
Try to go to the bathroom beforehand.
Bareback is possible but it depends on the girl.

The prices are, 11K for 20 minutes, but on the Street of Youth it's 16K for 20 minutes, 21K for 30 minutes, and 31K for 40 minutes. The hours of operation are from about 1PM until midnight. I believe there are the most girls during the evening.
At midnight, the lights go out and it becomes a pretty sad place.

They're closed on New Year's Eve and New Year's Day.

External Links
Hyakuban http://r.gnavi.co.jp/k069800/
An izakaya that uses an old red-light district building from the Taisho Period in Tobita.

[Azure Knight]

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/wiki/index.php?%E4%BF%A1%E5%A4%AA%E5%B1%B1%E6%96%B0%E5%9C%B0

Shinodayama Shinchi

The inexpensive, young, and attractive Shinodayama Shinchi.

Location
Osaka Prefecture Izumi-shi Sachi
Closest Station
JR Osaka Izumi Shinodayama Station
(290 yen, 35 minutes from Tennoji)

Map

[Map Here]

Message Board

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/cgi/shinchi/wforum.cgi?file=2
Latest updates and information on Shinodayama Shinchi

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/cgi/shinchi/wforum.cgi?file=10
A message board for the girls working in the Shinchi of Kansai.
You can leave messages without displaying your email address, and there's also a private message box.

Explanation
There are approximately 40 shops.

Get off at Shinodayama Station, and walk along the train line towards Tennoji for about 10 minutes.
You'll see a drinking place called "Inari", turn right there.
You will have arrived at Shinodayama Shinchi.
If you're going by car, follow Prefectural Hwy 30 until you find a Family Mart.
Next to that is the parking lot for the Shinchi.

Unlike Tobita, you don't get to see the girls faces.
Tell the mamasan what kind of girl you like and she'll call on one for you.
However, what comes out may not be exactly what you were hoping for (smile).
If you say "young", young will come out, and if you say "slender", slender will come out
So you don't have to worry about that aspect.
If you absolutely have to see the girl's face, you can probably go inside, check out the girls,
and point out the one you like.

Condoms are basically used.

The pricing is 7500 for 15 minutes and 15K for 30 minutes. For twice the time you pay twice the price.
Depending on the shop, the max time limit is 75 minutes.
For courses 30 minutes and above, you can also enter into the bath.

All shops are closed on the 20th of every month.
If you go on the 20th, no one will be there, not even the mamasan on the back streets.

Open times depend on the shop, but range from around 10AM to 3PM. All shops close at midnight.

[Azure Knight]

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/wiki/index.php?%E6%9D%BE%E5%B3%B6%E6%96%B0%E5%9C%B0

Matsushima Shinchi
Take ease with the same face-showing system as Tobita.

Location
Osaka-shi Nishi-ku Honda
Closest Station
Osaka City Subway Chuo-sen Kujo Station

Map

[Map Here]

Message Board
http://www.tokyosecret.tv/cgi/shinchi/wforum.cgi?file=3

Explanation
There are about 80 shops. You can choose while looking at the girl.
Get off at Kujo Station, and head towards the shopping arcade in the direction of the Osaka Dome.
Matsushima Shinchi is to the left side of that shopping arcade.
Look for a sign that reads "Matsushima Cooking Association". It's easy to spot.
The girls range from the 20's to 30's. Plenty of cute and young girls.

Condoms are basically used.

The pricing starts at 15K for 30 minutes.

The hours of operation basically start from 4PM.

(Azure: Looks like our writer friend got a little lazy on this article.)

[Azure Knight]

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/wiki/index.php?%E4%BB%8A%E9%87%8C%E6%96%B0%E5%9C%B0

Imazato Shinchi
The very popular Imazato Shinchi

Location
Osaka-shi Ikuno-ku Shin Imazato 3-Chome
Closest Station
Kintetsu Nara Line Imazato Station
(Take the Local from Tsuruhashi - 1 station, 150 yen)

Map

The arrows mark two "Japanese restaurants", with the shops peppered about in between.
(Azure: Note that "Japanese restaurants" probably means sex shops)
[Map Here]

Message Board
http://www.tokyosecret.tv/cgi/shinchi/wforum.cgi?file=4

Explanation
There are about 30 shops. Same as Shinodayama, its a mamasan calls the girls out system.
For a general idea of where it is, please see the map.

Pass through the gates at Imazato Station, and head straight towards the shopping district on the south side for 10 minutes.
Cross the two-lane highway and its in the area on the right hand side.
Unlike Tobita, you can't see the girls beforehand.
Tell the mamasan what type you like and she'll call a girl out for you.
The ages range from 20-40.
There are no showers.
If you choose a course over 1 hour (26K), then you can take the girl to a hotel in a different location.
Condoms are basically used.

The pricing starts from 13K for 30 minutes.

Hours of operation basically start from 5PM.

[Azure Knight]

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/wiki/index.php?%E6%BB%9D%E4%BA%95%E6%96%B0%E5%9C%B0

Takii Shinchi
Like professionals? Takii's your spot.
On the message boards, there are people who call it a Japanese-style inn, but in reality its designated as a Japanese restaurant. Because of that, they can't offer futons, but instead seat cushions and floor mats - this is a famous tale. A shop that calls itself a Japanese restaurant is supposed to serve up food, but instead they serve a meal of young ladies.

Location
Osaka Prefecture Moriguchi-shi Takii Nishi-cho 2-Chome
Closest Station
Keihan Railway Takii Station or Sembayashi Station

Map

[Map Here]

Takii Map

[Basic Map Here]
The upside-down triangle in the middle is the same location of the pointer in the Google map above.

Message Board
http://www.tokyosecret.tv/cgi/shinchi/wforum.cgi?file=5

Explanation
About 8 shops. You can see the girls as you choose.
(However, there are some shops were you can't see unless you actually enter)
Ages range from 20-50.
No showers.
Bareback is possible but it depends on the girl (c'mon, let's wrap up).
Pricing is 14K for 30 minutes, 25K for 60 minutes. (Around the end of the year the prices go up by 2-3K. Or not. Lately it seems the prices haven't increased.)
Hours of operation are from 4PM until midnight. (There are some girls who start working at 2PM).

Manners
(1) Sometimes the mamasan may become too forceful (seriously?), in those cases just firmly say "I'm going to look around" or "she's not my type". Sometimes you may end up with a girl who's no good, but in those cases lets not blame the mamasan.
(2) If you look at the girl, at least greet the mamasan with a "Good Evening". If you ignore the mamasan and just poke your head in without saying a word, that's plenty rude.
(3) At least engage the mamsan in some basic conversation as you pick your girl.
(4) Don't know if this is the mamasan's or girl's wishes, but lets all use condoms.
(5) The time starts ticking from when the girl hands the money to the lady. 5 minutes before time is up you'll get the first buzzer, and when you run out of time you'll get the second buzzer. If you're still slow in coming down, you'll get an angry long third buzzer from the lady.

Primary Players On The Message Board

Meshi-ya
Meshi-ya really caused a ruckus on the Takii message board, and was banned by the admin.
He once sent a mail of apology to the admin, but plenty of the other posters are still holding him accountable.

Todo
A posted who wrote up extremely detailed and professional recounts of his experiences.
He had a lot of fans, but also a lot of people who said he went too far. Taking into consideration the people who said he went too far, and at the advice of the admin, he's started up his own homepage, and is now writing about his experiences there.

(Azure: This doesn't really sound like a place I'd be interested in checking up on anytime soon. Also, this finishes the Osaka section, so I'll take a break here.

Also, I've been reading the girls message board found in the Tobita info post. It's got some interesting stuff. Check out my post in the general info thread to see what some of the girls think about us.)

[Vdurieu]

Hello

I go for 1 week in tokyo in April, could you make a summary?

- What is average price for pussy?
- What are the best place?
- Hotel (under 100 usd) to be close to action?
- Are hotel guest friendly in general?
- Are there gogo bars like in Thailand?

Thanks

[Shomohin]

Thanks for a lot of great work translating, AK.

[Lion]

Hello

I go for 1 week in tokyo in April, could you make a summary?

- What is average price for pussy?
- What are the best place?
- Hotel (under 100 usd) to be close to action?
- Are hotel guest friendly in general?
- Are there gogo bars like in Thailand?

Thanks

RTFF? Please.

[Azure Knight]

Didn't feel like working today, so I finished out the translations. As they're mostly short, I've just lumped them all together in this one post.

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/wiki/index.php?%E5%AE%9D%E5%B1%B1%E5%AF%BA

Houzanji

Play around in a Japanese-style inn.
You can't see the girls beforehand. The mamasan will call out the girl.
This is a place where you can enjoy a leisurely adult time. Don't go here looking for young perky girls or exceptional service.

Location
Nearest Station
Change at Kintetsu Ikoma, take a cable-car to Houzanji.

By Car
(General Access) Get off at the Ikoma Interchange from the Hanna Expressway, and go to Houzanji by way of the Kintetsu Ikoma station.
(Toll Road) Go on the 2nd Hanna Expressway for about a minute, then turn left towards the Osaka direction. Cross the tracks and one traffic light, then go left at the Y-shaped road towards Kintetsu Ikoma station. Once you get to Ikoma station turn left, go past one traffic light, then at the three-forked road (there is a sign that says towards Houzanji) turn left, go up a hilly road, and on the right side there's a parking lot before the entrance. Also, a little past that point there's Houzanji parking. The parking is free, but its often full. If you're coming for a stay but can't find parking, contact the ryokan and they'll open a space for you.

Map, Message Board

Explanation
The age range is mostly in the late 30's.
If you're looking for young girls go in the early hours. There are girls in their late 20's.
Hours start from 11AM.
The pricing is 27K for 2 hours.
From 9PM you can stay for the night (about 40K). If you know ahead of time you can stay from 6PM, but its safest to make a reservation with the girl you like.
The reservation is 41K for 3 hours. If you don't have a preference, you can still make a reservation with a girl you like.
This is a place that's used by groups, and can turn you down at a first glance, so take caution.
They can raise the prices on you if they don't like your expression.
Excursions to Osaka and Nara are possible, but that's limited to regular customers.
As there are a lot of group parties on Fridays, there's a high chance that a lot of girls will be unavailable.
Also, as there are a lot of group parties during November...the same applies.

Gunyama Shinchi

(Closed Down)

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/wiki/index.php?%E3%81%8B%E3%82%93%E3%81%AA%E3%81%BF%E6%96%B0%E5%9C%B0

Kannami Shinchi
A shinchi with dedicated fans.

Location
Hyogo-ken Amagasaki-shi Kamida Minami-cho
Closest Station
Hanshin Deyashiki Station - 5 minute walk from the north side

Map, Message Board

Explanation
A long row of two-story buildings. The stairs are really narrow (smile).
The average age is high, but there are some young girls in their 20's.
It seems there are also a lot of girls from Okinawa.
The pricing is 11K for 30 minutes.
Hours start from 7PM.
Depending on your negotiations, you can take her to a hotal (about 20K).
The mamasan are pretty friendly.

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/wiki/index.php?%E4%BA%94%E6%A2%9D%E6%A5%BD%E5%9C%92

Kyoto - Gojo Rakuen
Gojo Rakuen with its exciting kimono's. The only place where you can get it on with girls in kimonos.

Location
Closest Station
Keihan Gojo Station

Map, Message Board

Explanation
Get off at Keihan Gojo Station, and as you cross the Gojo Ohashi Bridge there'll be a "Gojo Rakuen" sign.
Enter the alley to find a teahouse.
It's not on the east side past Kamogawa River.
The mamasan will call out the girl.
You don't see her beforehand.
As there are no touts, you enter into the teahouse and negotiate with the mamasan.
If the genkan to the teahouse is open, they're open for business.
Certain clubs are geisha houses, so you can't enter. (Azure: Not sure about this line)

The girls range from their 20's to their 50's.

The pricing is 16K for 40 minutes.

Hours are from the afternoon, with various closing times.
Holidays are any day with a 2 (2, 12, 22) and the end/beginning of the year.

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/wiki/index.php?%E5%A4%A9%E7%8E%8B%E6%96%B0%E5%9C%B0

Tennou Shinchi
The 50-year old men of the area will tell you that this area used to flourish, but now its just a ruin of its former self. Follow along the U-shaped road to find a few old shops lined up. I think there are only 3-5 shops operating now.

Location
Wakayama-shi Nakanoshima
(On the JR Kisei Main Line, From Kiwa Station, the Wakayama-shi Bus Tennou Shinchi Bus Stop is the closest)

Map, Message Board

Explanation
Though I've been able to confirm some girls in their 20's and mid 30's, its mostly women in their 40's to 50's. Only good if you're into that kind of thing. If you want to play with young girls, I recommend a little south from here for some real salons, or even to the soapland district of Shinsaikamo-cho.

[Azure Knight]

I stopped by Toukaen last night. I wanted to take on Youko and Yume again for the threesome, and possibly move to a love hotel with more space. However, Youko wasn't there - she'd stepped "out" and wouldn't be back for another hour and a half, possibly two. That was disappointing, but I'd already stepped through the door and had the girls lined up, I didn't want to back out now. I noticed Yume standing in the back and smiling at me. There was also a short cutie near the front absolutely beaming at me. She was tempting, but I decided to stick with Yume. I knew she was good, plus I figured it might earn me brownie points for the next time.

Yume starts to take me to the back, and I ask about going to a love hotel instead. She says it might be possible (she's not sure), but says that the regular rooms should be fine if its only one on one. She thanks me for remembering her, and this time she seems as friendly as Youko was before. She asks me about the 3P again, and I told her I'd rather wait for Youko. Really though, I'd come for a 3P, so I thought about it, and asked Yume if there were any girls she could recommend. She said she had one, and phoned her up. "She's cute - she's got a little gut, but her booty sticks out nice as well. I think she's your type. If you see her and you don't like, you can say no, no problem." The other girl arrived, and Yume was right - she definintely was my type. She was the short, smiling girl I'd noticed before. And I don't know what Yume meant, she had a nice stomach. This was enough to sell me on the 3P with these two. The new girl, Mei (I think) was even friendlier than Youko, if that was possible. Yume tells me that her, Mei, Youko, and one other girl are good friends, and they all work really well together.

Now with a 3P again, I wanted to go to a hotel. Yume confirmed that it was okay, and off we went. Normally, it's a bit embarrasing to be walking down the street accompanied by two Chinese working girls who are obviously so. Luckily, Doyama is just that kind of place. There's a hotel nearby - next door actually. We head there first and pick a room, but just as we're about to go up some guy sticks his head out of a door and tells us that 3 people in a room is not allowed. Oh well, we leave this hotel and go to another one nearby. Not wanting to take any chances, we formulate a plan - Mei and I will go ahead. Yume gets my cell phone number, and I'll call her once we get the room. Mei tells me to get the cheapest room there (I appreciate that), unfortunately this is a rather high-class love hotel, so the cheapest starts from 4200 yen an hour. I pick that, and there's some weird system where I'm given a room card, but have to exchange that with the girl up front for a room key. Mei and I go up, and with Yume blowing up my phone, I answer once we're out of sight to inform her of the room number. Mei and I enter, and I keep the door propped open with a shoe until Yume arrives (some hotels have auto-locking doors that won't open again until you've paid or are ready to leave).

Yume points out that we've probably wasted 20 minutes just looking for a love hotel (I opted for the 60 min course) and says to hurry up and lets get going. I shower with Mei - she's very cute and adorable, and also very friendly. My only complaint is that she tends to kiss with her teeth. After everyone's all clean, Yume literally dives on the bed and says "let's get started!" Immediately, I'm glad for the privacy and the bigger bed. With me on my back, the two start working me over, with Yume eventually hopping on top. I start fingering Mei, and she becomes naturally wet. She asks Yume for a switch, but Yume tells her "not yet!" Yume cums, and then we switch up so I can fuck Mei in missionary. Yume alternates between licking my nipples and some anal play. Anal play isn't necessarily bad...but for me at least the sensation kind of over-powers everything else. Mei is really enjoying herself, and she cums after awhile. We switch again, this time so I can fuck Yume in missionary, with Mei providing the backup. She does that for a little while, but then assuming I'm about to cum, she goes off to shower. Yume cums again, and I ask if its okay for a final switch. Yume summons Mei back from the bathroom, and somewhat amazed that I haven't cum already, promises that the both of them will finish me off by hand or mouth if Mei can't properly take me in (they've both been going on about my size the whole time). We start off with Mei on top and Yume at my side, stroking my balls while I suck her tits. Mei is enjoying herself, but takes in a little more than she can handle, so we switch back to missionary. I wondered if Yume was going to retreat to the shower, but she stayed and assisted with more anal play, nipple licking, and DFK. Mei cums for a second time, with me not long after. Both girls seem amazed by me - Yume says "we've played with foreigners before, but you're just different." Mei says - "I want your baby!" and Yume explains that Mei wants an American baby because she thinks they're cuter and smarter. ...Better keep a close eye on this one, make sure she doesn't poke a hole in the condoms or something.

Both girls marvel at the hotel. "You sure this is a love hotel?" Yume asks me several times. It really was a nice hotel, very roomy, modern, and spacious. Mei wastes no time in raiding the fridge, taking the complimentary water for herself and passing me a can of complimentary tea.

At this point the girls start rushing a bit, and we both take quick showers before leaving the hotel. All three hop into the elevator - as it stops at the lobby floor, only I get out to pay, while the girls go on back to Toukaen (I think we surprised the Japanese couple who was on their way out - that's a look I would have loved to preserve on camera). The girl at the front has trouble containing a laugh as I pass her the room key - my hair was quite messed up compared to when I first went inside. I don't blame her, I would have laughed too.

Later, after paying I check my phone - the time was 7:35. The first call from Yume (right before Mei and I went into the hotel) was at 6:50. I didn't think we'd wasted too much at at the first hotel, but even giving that 10 minutes, obviously the clock starts as you pay at Toukaen. I didn't mind too much - I'd fucked both Yume and Mei twice a piece, gotten off myself, and with two showers. Didn't feel rushed until the end. Yume promised that next time getting the hotel would be smoother, so we'd have more time and wouldn't be rushed.

In short, fantastic 3P. Yume and Mei do work well together, and Mei is really cute. Near GFE from the both of them. Damages: 24,000 yen for the girls (12,000 each for 60 minutes) and 4,200 yen for the high-class hotel. Worth every yen. They'll be seeing me again soon. And now I have three different combinations to work with if one of them isn't there (Youko + Yume, Yume + Mei, theoretically Youko + Mei).

[Arje79]

AK, thank you for the translation. I was in a kinda long trip to Kyushu (and some of their soaplands in my free time) and just came back.

But before I went there, I just paid a visit to Matsushima Shinchi. I went there as well as to Tobita for window shopping, but never had the enough time to try it. Finally, I decided to give it a try, since it is in a better neighborhood than Tobita and I was doing some bussiness around.

I went around 3pm. One tout in bicycle told me that if I want some nice girls he can take me to a nice shop, but I gently refused since I wanted to give it a look around first. After walking around and getting some callings from the mamasan, I decided to try one shop that is just one block behind the love hotel nearby. It had 3 girls, two with Gal type and one with black hair. The black hair girl was kinda cute and with nice breast but there was no eye contact, so I tried the one next to her. It was a one-floor shop, and it was recently remodeled, as the girl told me.

She said it was 16000yen for 30min, which I read was the common price. She took the money outside and came back later. I noticed a paper with some prices on the wall, which I imagined were those they say it costs to enter to the shop to "have some sweets" (since these shops are supposed to be some kind of tea place). They were around 5000yen per 30min, so I imagine that might be the money owner of the shop gets.

She came back and asked me where I come from, since she noticed something not so japanese in me (I am nikkei). I told her so, and asked if usually foreigners come here. She told me that lately there are a lot of them, especially from Jordan. She also told me that they don't allow chinese or korean around, since there were some problems with them before. She was kinda comfortable with foreigners, but she said she can't speak english.

We went to take a shower, and refused some kissing with a lousy story about she getting easily sick, but touch was allowed so I just tried not to mind. We went to the futon and she did some CBJ, and then we changed to misionary. Well, she was nice, with a nice rack, but the typical maguro. I was kinda dissapointed, since she seemed so friendly. I finished, another shower and talked for a while (she asked me why some foreigners like me shave down there...vey curious girl). Then she took me outside. The mamasan was very friendly, and told me to come back anytime.

It was not a bad experience, but the lack of GFE was kinda dissapointing. Anyway, I think this place was pretty much gaijin friendly, so you can five it a try. Sorry I don't remember the name of the shop.

Mak Daddy, if you make a bachelor party, put me on the list (sorry if it sounds rude to invite myself)!

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[Arje79]

After I went to Matsushima Shinchi, I decided to try also Toukaen. Have to say that is kinda nice place, with a wide variety of girls to choose. Of course, it is kinda small place, but what you get for your money makes it worth (amazing story, AK!)

I went around 5pm, and there were a lot of girls to choose (maybe 10, I think). I decided for one that had a very nice body and made good eye contact. Her name was Nozomi.

We went inside, some shower, and came back. She had an amazing rack, with very nice pink nipples. As a matter of conversation, I asked where is she from, and she said japanese (yeah, sure!). Her japanese was not bad, but you could notice her chinese accent. We started with some massage, but I decided to kiss her, so I turned around and lyed with her on the bed. The girl next room was kinda noisy, so it turned me on. Nozomi was kinda childish in her behavior, but did some good CBJ. I ate her down there, but she later told me she didn't like it so much, since I may kiss her and she would feel the taste.

We tried some doggy and woman on top, finishing with a missionary. When we finished, she asked me if I was japanese, since it felt too good for a japanese. When I was getting dressed she asked me if I will come back, and that she wouldn't be there next week since she had her period (too much information for me, but whatever).

Total damage:10 000yen for the 40min course.

It is the 3rd time I go to a chinese sute, and I have to say that it is not so bad experience. Cheap and most of the time GFE. Compared to what you spend in japanese places, it is ok... but I like so much how japanese girls look, so it is kinda hard to decide sometimes. Anyway, this kind of places are good for the mongering economy...

[Colonel Sun]

I'm new here so apologies in advance if this is old news. Haven't read the entire thread.

Recently stayed near Hankyu Minamikata Station? In the north part of Osaka.

The area I'm referring to is bounded by Shin-Osaka station to the north, Hankyu Minamikata station to the south and the Osaka Midosuji subway line station Nishinakajima-Minamigata to the west. The Yodogawa-ku area north of the Yodo river.

For the fellows who prefer street mongering action there were quite a few Chinese girls offering their services to the salarymen getting off from the Hankyu train with the standard "masaji desu ka" line. A number were reasonably good looking. One was quite striking and seemed have a fun outgoing personality.

There's also a small red-light district in the area offering the usual services.

As I'm new here I'd also like to express my appreciation to the posters who've done a great job in contributing info.

[Colonel Sun]

Does anyone know the street scene in Osaka these days. There were some reports a few years back about Latinas and Thai's in the Umeda area. I've been looking around in the places mentioned, but haven't seen anything.

I definitely like to find those Thai girls, so if anyone knows their new spot, let us know.If you walked down Midosuji from JR Umeda to Ohatsu Tenjin Shrine at 2-5-4, Sonezaki, Kita-ku (this shrine is noted as the setting of the famous story "Sonezaki Shinju" - Lover's Suicide at Sonezaki) on the left in Higashi-Sonezaki and continue walking along that street for about 3 main blocks then you would run a gauntlet of street mama-san's supposedly selling veggies as fronts for Thai girls. This is also a love hotel and red light area. If you see the sign "Grand Calm" in big neon then you know you're heading in the right direction. Don't know if this has changed recently.

[Xslikx]

I haven't done any P4P in over two months because I've been getting better at my Nampa action, but the other day I was out for a long ride with a friend and we when through Tobita to check out the scene. We didn't stop that night, but I couldn't get it out of my mind and I had to go back the next night.

Tobita is a trap for me because every time I go, I have to fuck two or three girls and it's hard for me to figure out which ones will be fun from the way they present themselves. They can be very good actors before you talk to them and mostly they let the mama-san do the talking.

I went on a Sat afternoon and I only walked the two good streets. I had a 50-60 percent call rate. It was too much. It was like 10-15 hot girls to try to chose from. They smile, bat their eyes, tip their heads to the side, lean over so that they can keep looking at you, but if you watch closely, the vast majority of them do this with everyone. I talked to some of the mama-sans and tried to find out if any of the girls mentioned here were still working. I confirmed that Tomo has quit. I couldn't understand what the mama-san at 心 was saying about Maika. (By the way, the 心 shop I found was on the main drag, not the one just parallel to the shoutengai.)

The first girl I picked had tall, stacked Osaka style gyaru hair, fishnet stockings, a pink camsole and glittery fake pink nails (what is the name of this style, there are some shops around that specialize in it). She was short, with perky little tits and a nice, big juicy ass (for a J girl). Unfortunately, she was lame in bed. Quick CBJ, and then just laid down, turned to her head to the side and did those weird J girl moans from the AVs. She didn't want to kiss or anything and so I just pounded her hard and talked to her in really filthy E and kind of dirty J until the bell. Then I sped up and blew my load between the two bells.

I knew the second I stepped out the door I was going for another round, but decided to take a bit of a walk to get the blood flowing everywhere again.

The second girl I picked was on one of the two short streets that connect the two main streets. She she had the floppy school girl socks but kind of a fake one-piece school girl like dress with a English public school style crest. Her hair was dyed lighter brown, about shoulder length and had waives. Fairly light make-up and super cute. When she took me into the room, she spoke in ultra polite J with a singsong anime-style voice.

We had a great time together. Although she didn't want to kiss right away, after I caressed her and kissed her body, she turned her face toward me for a kiss. She gave me the best BJ I've had in Tobita, she was really tight, and we went at it until the second bell. Afterwards, we lay together and caressed each other until the third bell, which was a continuous ring and clearly meant, "get the fuck out."

She gave me her number and email. This week she wrote to say ''mata asobini ikou," but unfortunately I'm going to be in Europe for a month and wont be able to follow up until well after she has forgotten me. I've dated working girls in North America but never here, although it's probably just as much of a waste of time here.

CS: Thanks for the info on the Thai girls. I'll check it out. But the other street scenes in Umeda are way different now than reported in older posts.

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[Azure Knight]

Nice report Xslikx! Man, a 50-60% call rate in Tobita...I'd kill for that. For me that's nothing but a faraway fantasy.

[Echi Gaijin]

Hi guys.

Haven't posted here before, but I've been to Tobita a number of times. Oddly, from the number of you who seem to play there, I haven't seen any gaijin there before.

I always wanted to try one of the AF places, but didn't think they let foreigners in, so I was pleased to see AF-sentai. Their website seems to be down (? ), so I googled it, and checked the cache. It redirects to this place: http://www.ma.mukitamago.com/

Anyone been there?

[Lion]

Hi guys.

Haven't posted here before, but I've been to Tobita a number of times. Oddly, from the number of you who seem to play there, I haven't seen any gaijin there before.

I always wanted to try one of the AF places, but didn't think they let foreigners in, so I was pleased to see AF-sentai. Their website seems to be down (? ), so I googled it, and checked the cache. It redirects to this place: http://www.ma.mukitamago.com/

Anyone been there?

That appears to be the same location as af-sentai. Be nice if the whole chain was gaijin friendly. TOFTT?

[Arje79]

I stopped by Toukaen today. It was kinda packed, and only 4 girls available from 10 working today when I arrived. The guy at the shop told me only 40min course was available because of it, so I just told him to show me the girls.

Wow, I just saw one of the most beautiful chinese girls ever. She had an amazing body, with big boobs and a very cute face. Her name was Yuki and I picked her without hesitating. Seems she was kinda popular, because the girls were laughing.

We went to a booth that was in another floor (maybe 4th?). It was exactly as the ones in the first floor. When she took her clothes, I have to really admit she was a great 9 in a scale of 10. Her japanese was not so good though, since she just arrived to Japan. When we were in the shower she offered me the 3P course, so I accepted. She brought Yume, and I think is the same girl AK picked up. Yume was kinda ok, but was nothing too amazing.

It was my first 3P, so I was very excited about it. I was eating the pussy of Yuki, while Yume was doing a good CBJ. Yume then put it inside, and started riding. As always, the most beautiful girls are not the best performers, and Yuki was not the exception. She was doing so fake noises all the time, but moved pretty good when changing places with Yume. Yume's japanese was very good, and she told me that 3P course is very popular lately, since it is very cheap there, and that especially foreigners pick it (maybe many of you guys?). Well, I finished inside Yuki while kissing Yume's breast, and it was one of the best 20,000Yen I payed so far in Japan.

I don't know if Yuki is the other girl that AK mentioned in his report, but they were talking a lot with other girl attending a japanese guy while waiting for the shower, so I imagine this is the good "team" AK heard about. Anyway, it was a very nice experience, and I hope I can make it there soon.

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[Azure Knight]

It seems like I've given Toukaen quite a bit of business. I was there last week for a one on one with Yume, and she thanked me for sending a friend their way for a threesome. It was funny, she kept asking me questions about my friend, and I kept having to try and cover that it wasn't because of information sharing over the internet!

Anyway, Toukaen is trying to lay low at the moment, they had a run-in with the law a few weeks back, which explains the lack of girls and only the 40-minute course being available. I rather like this place and don't want to see it go under.

[Lion]

A real challenge to find if you don't know where to look. Even with instructions from the tencho it took me 10 minutes-and I was 2 blocks away!

Look at the photo attached. If you can get yourself in this position you will be in front of the door.

The trick is to find the YMCA, then walk south about 20m until you are in front of the Mielle Coffee shop (some name like that). Do not make the mistake I made of trying to find it next to the Hilo coffee shop to the left of the YMCA. The door to Osaka Fats is to the right of the Mielle Coffee shop. It has Kentucky written on it (sidesways in small white letters), but otherwise is very non-descript.

The tencho is a nice guy who says he gets calls from foreigners, but only 2 have actually made it to the shop. He is nervous about trying to explain how to find it and the menu in English, but once you are there you should be OK.

They had about 12 girls working the day I went. 2/3 were busy and had wait times of 30-90 minutes, but I managed to pick a decent "slender" type (relatively slender that is).

The girl was not as cute as in the pict, but I would say the picts are pretty accurate. Nice D/E cups, which of course was the whole point of goingt to OF. Perhaps a 6-7/10 on a I-like-big-gals scale.

13,000 for 70 minutes (nicer than expected hotel included), clock starts once you're in the hotel. Playtime is really 55minutes, but that was enough for a leisurely washdown, soak and BBBJ in the tub, then DATY and BBBJ in bed, and a little more soak and rinse.

Upon leaving I asked whether FS was forbidden, and she smiled and said not necessarily. Whether she'd go for it gratis or not I did not ask.

I still have a bit of a problem with girls half my age-they are boring. Problem is I like the fresh faces.

[Azure Knight]

People have posted here about 60%+ call rates in Tobita. To me, where my call rate hovers around 0-5%, this was always some sort intangible fantasy. That is, until I saw it for myself.

A friend from the states came up to Osaka, and he wanted to see the finest the city had to offer. Of course, that meant a trip out to Tobita. We made our way through the initial streets with the old ladies, and then a few nicer selections until finally hitting the main street. He looked like I’d taken him to heaven instead of a red light district in some scummy part of Osaka. And really, I had. I can remember my wonderment my first time here.

What wowed me though, was that he had a wonderful call rate. There were a few girls/mamas an who made it a point to look away, or those who would start to call out, realize that we were foreign, then laugh at their mistake and retreat back inside. But for the most part he was getting accepted – at least an 80% rate.

It was especially funny because we were walking together. I’d thought that my presence would lower his potential rate dramatically, but the mamasan and girls treated us as two separate entities. Just seeing the contrast on their faces as they looked at us was worth the trip alone.

Looking at him: Well…okay. He’s foreign, but…yeah, maybe. It’s a slow night, why not?
Looking at me: Holy cow, it’s a servant of the devil! Don’t we have any holy water laying around somewhere?!

He’s a very non-threatening kind of guy, so I guess its easy to see why they reacted so differently to us. I’m not threatening at all…but I suppose at a first glance I can be. I was insanely envious of his wonderful call rate.

I noticed some other things he did that I don’t necessarily do. He took his time, walked slowly, looked directly at the girl while smiling at her. There’s no mistaking why he’s here, he’s obviously not some lost foreigner and he knows what’s up. I don’t breeze through, but I don’t walk that slowly either, and I don’t stop and take good looks at the girls either. I could probably smile more as well. I’d like to go back one day and try out this approach, see if my success rates go up any. I’d be thrilled at just 50%.

Anyway, the results of our mongering. After going through main street once, we hit up a few of the other side streets. I showed the shop with Makoto and Suzu, where I’m very welcome. The mamasan told me that Makoto was in tonight, and I said I was playing tour guide for the night. She then starts to sell the current girl in the genkan, who wasn’t at all bad, to my friend. He thinks about it, but wants to see more of Tobita before deciding, so I tell the mamasan we’re still shopping around. We go up a few more side streets, but the quality of the girls really does go down as the age goes up.

We go back to main street, and one girl catches his eye. The mamasan is inviting him in. Its very tempting…but he decides to take another look at main street. As we walk maybe halfway down, a group of Japanese guys stop at that shop and start sizing up the girl. My friend realizes that the girl might actually get snatched away. We stop and wait, and after a few minutes the Japanese guys go off. We go back to the shop, and I explain to the mamasan and the girl that he knows the score, and he’ll do a 30 minute course (he later changed to 20).

I wasn’t planning on doing any mongering at all…but what can I say? It’s hard to resist the charms of Tobita. I went back to the other shop and asked for Makoto. The mamasan called her out, and she came out wearing a nurses outfit with glasses. Wowzers. She asked if I remembered her, and seemed happy that I had. We had a good session – her GFE isn’t that good but its not dead-fish level and the view while fucking her is fantastic.

Came out and my friend was also finishing up his session. Sounded like he picked a winner. All in all a good night in Tobita. But I do want to try the walk slow and take a good look approach, see if I can’t raise my call rate.

[Xslikx]

Just a follow up to AK's post.

I get really good call rates and I do a lot of the things AK's friend does. I walk slowly, I smile at all the girls, I check them out like I want to fuck them, and I often tell them when I thing they're cute. "kawai naaaa. Sugoiiiii. Etc. " Sometimes, I just go up to the door and talk to the mama-san's, although my J isn't great, they usually reciprocate.

Also, I probably helps that I'm an average size white guy. They can't tell I'm not Japanese until they get a look straight in my face.

[Mendicant]

That appears to be the same location as af-sentai. Be nice if the whole chain was gaijin friendly. TOFTT?Mukitamago Maniacs is not gaijin friendly.

It is not impossible to get service but you will be rejected by default. I was able to prove that I had seen a few of the girls still working there. I was given one of them without a choice. Never saw any "panels" with other girls. Maybe you can become a regular and have a good reputation with the front guy. It sounds like most girls there don't want foreigners.

The new member card is only good at Maniacs. It has a points system which counts toward a vip membership but the front guy would not stamp mine. I was not charged a new member fee by turning in the old sentai card. I have not gone back in a while.

[Lion]

Mukitamago Maniacs is not gaijin friendly.

It is not impossible to get service but you will be rejected by default. I was able to prove that I had seen a few of the girls still working there. I was given one of them without a choice. Never saw any "panels" with other girls. Maybe you can become a regular and have a good reputation with the front guy. It sounds like most girls there don't want foreigners.

The new member card is only good at Maniacs. It has a points system which counts toward a vip membership but the front guy would not stamp mine. I was not charged a new member fee by turning in the old sentai card. I have not gone back in a while.

I thought we might be lucky here. Thanks for the depressing info.

[Saint Of Killers]

Just a word of warning (or advice, if you swing that way) but I went to Kinka about a week or so ago and had this girl named Risa. Nice body, great GFE service and everything. I'd give her an 8 or 8. 5 overall. Problem was that after the BBBJ (complete with rimming, wow! ) she asked me if I wanted to go bareback. To me I"m not into that kind of thing, especially with Chinese places like this where I have no idea if they test the girls, so I'm probably going to stay away from her from now on just because she actually offers bareback during FS. I know some guys like that kind of thing, so I'm just reporting it.

[Azure Knight]

I have plans to go to a happening bar/couple kissa on Friday night. I actually have never been to one before, so I'm really looking forward to it...also, not quite sure on what to do.

There are two types of places, ones that are strictly couples only, and ones that accept single guys. I'm going with a woman, so I can go to the couples places. However, I'm thinking of going to one of the places that accepts single guys - if I get along well with everyone there, it may allow me to go by myself without the woman I'm taking on Friday. Also, she likes to be gang-banged, so I'm thinking the skewed guy/girl ratio will work out in her favor. But, I can't help but to think that the quality of the couples-only places are higher, and that there will be more women.

Any of you guys ever been to one of the happening bars/couple kissa in Osaka? Any suggestions?

[Mak Daddy]

What kind of a tease is this? Give us names of the shop, web address, etc. Didn't your mother teach you to share?

See my post called Coffee Shop Dating (#477) on this forum. Jackson: you really have to change this to a Wiki style site. Finding relevant information is too hard on this site. But it is a great site!

Maki


I have plans to go to a happening bar/couple kissa on Friday night. I actually have never been to one before, so I'm really looking forward to it...also, not quite sure on what to do.

There are two types of places, ones that are strictly couples only, and ones that accept single guys. I'm going with a woman, so I can go to the couples places. However, I'm thinking of going to one of the places that accepts single guys - if I get along well with everyone there, it may allow me to go by myself without the woman I'm taking on Friday. Also, she likes to be gang-banged, so I'm thinking the skewed guy/girl ratio will work out in her favor. But, I can't help but to think that the quality of the couples-only places are higher, and that there will be more women.

Any of you guys ever been to one of the happening bars/couple kissa in Osaka? Any suggestions?

[Azure Knight]

Well, I'm still in the process of researching. Will definintely make a report after its all said and done.

From what I can tell, the happening bars/couple kissa in Osaka are not just places you can casually stroll up to - you have to sort of apply first and be accepted. Single guys are frowned upon in general, so for a first time you'd really want to bring a Japanese girl with you.

If you can read Japanese, this is a website that has listings of happening bars/couple kissa all over Japan - http://www.mabe-navi.com

[Mak Daddy]

That is a nice site. Thanks for that.

Also, I just realized I never posted my visit to Do Osaka. That was fun. Got right on it in the group room. The costumes are nice too.

Mak


Well, I'm still in the process of researching. Will definintely make a report after its all said and done.

From what I can tell, the happening bars/couple kissa in Osaka are not just places you can casually stroll up to - you have to sort of apply first and be accepted. Single guys are frowned upon in general, so for a first time you'd really want to bring a Japanese girl with you.

If you can read Japanese, this is a website that has listings of happening bars/couple kissa all over Japan - http://www.mabe-navi.com

[Azure Knight]

I've actually been considering Do Osaka as a place I might want to go to on Friday, so please do share your experience! How did you get in, what was it like, et al.

Right now I'm debating between Do Osaka and another place called Kiss Me. Just glancing at the message boards it seems like Do Osaka has more activity.

[Anonmyous]

Nara city is a wonderful place to visit, and there are a lot of interesting historical things to see, but as far as mongering goes, it's a barren place. I've done a bit of exploring, and intend to do a bit more. So far I've found out two things. The first thing is that most of the "shops" you'd want to visit are less than happy with the idea of servicing foreigners, regardless of Japanese ability. A few just put poorly translated signs up tht say so in a variety of different ways. The second thing I found out is that, half-way between JR Nara Station and Kintetsu Nara Station there is one gaigin-friendly shop. The shop is called Gboy's, and it is on the second floor of a building at a fairly major intersection. I'll try to post better directions later, but you may be able to see the sign they set up outside their building (see attached picture).

Gboy's is a "fashion-health" place in Nara. They advertise "companion services" also (for a pretty steep rate, I think), but they're basically a head shop. The basic course is a BBBJ (CIM) for 5000 yen. That course lasts 30 min (or maybe 45, it's been a while since I visited). You can opt for a longer course for an extra fee. You can also choose from various options such as costumes (nurse, maid, school girl, etc). As for the quality of the girls. I've been 3 times, the first was a 6, but playful. She did a bit of GFE (licking the balls, biting the nipples, and so on). The second was a seven but less GFE, pretty much a straight forward BBBJ, but still decently good. The third, to my surprise, was a definate 9. She walked into my little booth, served me my drink (beer, whisky, or tea – included in your basic price), and she smiled like an angel. She was beautiful, and I wish I remembered her name for you all, because she gave some of the best head I've ever had.

So, in summary: Gboy's is not a place for FS, but if you happen to be visiting Nara they are a convenient stop (½ way between the JR Nara and Kintetsu Nara stations). They are also gaijin friendly. The manager will be very clear about no FS, but otherwise fairly nice as long as you speak a bit of Japanese and have the money up front. My Japanese is fairly limited, but I got along OK, so I'd encourage others to try it out.

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[Anonmyous]

Ok, humor me, I know that this is the International Sex Guide website, but it sounds like most of us travel around Osaka quite a bit, and Tobita can get a bit pricey after a couple of visits in a weekend. On that note, I found a place by happy coincidence that is a bit out of the way, but a great place to kill some time before, after, or between other excursions. The Boston Club is a strip club that is worth a visit. Humor me.

The Boston Club is a card-holding member's club, but you can apply for a member's card on your first visit. For your first visit, the price is 4000 yen for the first hour and 3-4000 for subsequent hours, but if you're applying for a member's card (and especially if you're in a group) you can bargain with the host and he'll probably cut you a bit of slack. So yes, it is expensive the first time, but here's the good news: once you get your card you can visit for a cover fee of 4000 yen for the night and that includes all-you-can-drink from their bar for the entire night (beer, whiskey, mixed drinks, shots, etc).

Furthermore, there are a variety of women working that dance to a variety of kinds of music. Most are quite attractive (minimum of 6 at this place, but most are 7 and above). I swear, damn, these girls can dance. They don't just walk the stage and collect your bills like some scavy places, some of them can do things to that pole that are awesome. Also, it is permissable (to some degree) to get on stage with the girls (just watch what the Japanese guys do). The people are pretty friendly and I recommend the place highly.

If you care to visit, from Umeda you take the Hankyu line to Juso. From the station (I wish I could remember directions better, but) I recommend catching a cab (especially if you can split the fare with a friend). The Boston Club isn't far away, and if you have Japanese ability you can probably ask for directions (assuming you don't mind asking for directions to a strip club). It is an easy walk, probably 10 min or less by foot. Well, if you happen to be out that way, enjoy Juso (the whole area is permeated with a variety of interesting places), and especially The Boston Club.

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[Member #4168]

I am in Osaka for 3 days and wondered if anyone is up for some fun? Staying at Namba Station in Osaka.

[Anonmyous]

I am in Osaka for 3 days and wondered if anyone is up for some fun? Staying at Namba Station in Osaka.Hey,

If you want mongering company I'd be up for a walk around to some bars, Shinodayama, or Tobita on Tueday in the late afternoon or evening. If you'll still be in town let me know what your plans are. Any other mongers interested in a walk about?

[Cooler8]

Hi,

Can I have more detailed location of the joint? I will be residing at shearton maiyako hotel at Uehommachi Tennoji-Ku. I ahve tried the service at tobita on my last trip and is looking at exploring more fun. Btw, is the joint gaijin friendly?? My japanese sucks !! What is the best time to go??I like an early afternoon session though.Thanks in advance for sharing..


A real challenge to find if you don't know where to look. Even with instructions from the tencho it took me 10 minutes-and I was 2 blocks away!

Look at the photo attached. If you can get yourself in this position you will be in front of the door.

The trick is to find the YMCA, then walk south about 20m until you are in front of the Mielle Coffee shop (some name like that). Do not make the mistake I made of trying to find it next to the Hilo coffee shop to the left of the YMCA. The door to Osaka Fats is to the right of the Mielle Coffee shop. It has Kentucky written on it (sidesways in small white letters), but otherwise is very non-descript.

The tencho is a nice guy who says he gets calls from foreigners, but only 2 have actually made it to the shop. He is nervous about trying to explain how to find it and the menu in English, but once you are there you should be OK.

They had about 12 girls working the day I went. 2/3 were busy and had wait times of 30-90 minutes, but I managed to pick a decent "slender" type (relatively slender that is).

The girl was not as cute as in the pict, but I would say the picts are pretty accurate. Nice D/E cups, which of course was the whole point of goingt to OF. Perhaps a 6-7/10 on a I-like-big-gals scale.

13,000 for 70 minutes (nicer than expected hotel included), clock starts once you're in the hotel. Playtime is really 55minutes, but that was enough for a leisurely washdown, soak and BBBJ in the tub, then DATY and BBBJ in bed, and a little more soak and rinse.

Upon leaving I asked whether FS was forbidden, and she smiled and said not necessarily. Whether she'd go for it gratis or not I did not ask.

I still have a bit of a problem with girls half my age-they are boring. Problem is I like the fresh faces.

[Gaijin Otoko]

I was in Osaka recently, and I decided to try Toukakyo (referred to by others here as Toukaen. I think they change their name). Let me say that I almost hesitate to share this place with others because it is so damn fantastic! Enjoy, but please don't mess it up!

It is hard to find. Probably the easiest way to find it is to go out exit #6 from Izumi no Hiroba in the Umeda underground shopping arcade. Walk east on Ogimachi Street until you find the Daikoku pharmacy on your left. Turn left and walk from there about 150 yards until you see the shrine on your right. Its immediately past the shrine in a little alleyway to your left on the first floor.

Walk right in. Don't go up the stairs. The entrance hall goes right then left. Theres a couple of long couches. The manager should come out and greet you. I speak fluent Japanese, so I got in right away. It was my first time there, so I selected the 40 minutes for 10, 000 yen course. Most of the girls available were different from the girls pictured on the website, but just as pretty. They were dressed for work, but I'd give them all 7s or 8s, at least. I wasn't offered the 3-way course, but I understand it 20, 000 yen for 40 minutes or 24, 000 for 60.

They will all come out and line up, and you can pick whichever you like. I chose Mari. She looked a bit older than the rest, but more sophisticated and with a gorgeous body and great tits. The girls are all Chinese, mostly from Manchuria and other places in NE China. Mari spoke really good Japanese, and said she said she had been in Japan two years.

The service is in a back room with individual carrels that are a bit small. Privacy is better than if you went in a pink salon, but everyone can hear what's going on next door. Not really a problem for me, but if you don't like it, some people have indicated that you can take your girl (s) to a nearby love hotel instead.

Your girl will have you take your clothes off and she'll carefully put them in a locker in the carrel that she will give you the key to. Then its off to the shower. A quick scrub to make sure you're clean, especially for the bits that are going to be serviced, and its back to the room to get started.

Mari took off her clothes to reveal a body that was just a little pudgy, but very nice with some really big titties. Her skin was very smooth and soft, with almost no marks or hair. Her bush was neatly groomed.

She started licking my nipples and massaging me, quickly working her way south. I'm a big guy in most aspects, and Mari commented on my comparitively large penis size (by Japanese standards I'm huge). She then proceeded to give me the best BBBJ I have ever had. I'm about 7 inches long, but she swallowed most of me. I don't usually visit these kind of places, and it was my first visit to an FS place, but when my cock was in her velvety mouth and she was massaging my balls, all my nervousness and tension faded away. She kept eye contact with me nearly the whole time she was blowing me, stopping only occasionally to ask me how it felt.

After several minutes of this, she slipped a condom on me with her mouth and then asked if we could start missionary. I was more than happy to. And after she applied a little lube, we started slowly. One of the reasons I don't visit FS shops is that I don't like condoms. I'm less sensitive than average, and so it takes me a long time to finish even without one. The "jimmy hat" usually deadens the sensation so much that its barely worth my time. However Mari was very warm and tight, and she did tricks moving her pelvis that almost completely made up for the presence of the rubber.

We did most of the positions, starting off slowly until she could adjust to the size of my cock. Her body was fantastic, and the noises she made were really sexy. I could tell that a few times I got to her, because she switched from Japanese to Mandarin temporarily before regaining her composure and returning to Japanese.

Once we had worked our way through all the major positions, she seemed a bit concerned that I hadn't come yet. She told me we could continue trying or she would be happy to finish me off with an HJ. Of course I wanted to try more so we went back to missionary. She started flipping her hips in this totally unreal motion, and within a few minutes I came.

She had me rest for a while, and we chatted while someone in the next carrel over enjoyed a really noisy BJ. The conversation was very pleasant, but it seemed a little odd to me after what we had just done. I know this place has been mentioned in other reports here, so I asked her if they got many foreign clients. She said no, that I was her first, and she marvelled at how white my skin was. (Yet another reason I love Asia! ) She did say that the store was pretty busy and had a reputation for being low-cost. I would have to say that I think that this place is a fantastic bargain. FS from a beautiful, talented Chinese hottie? I'd pay a lot more than I did. I would be more than happy to see Mari again, but I don't live in Osaka, so I think if I can swing by there again, I'd try someone else, or if I've got more cash, try the 3P course.

Their website is at: http://www.f-navi. Co. Jp/kintarou/index. Htm (In Japanese only)

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[Azure Knight]

Didn't get to go to the happening bar on Friday. My date had her period, so we postponed to this week.

So in the meantime, if anyone has been to one of the ones in Osaka and can recommend a good one, please do share. Right now I'm thinking either Kiss Me or Do Osaka.

[Member #4168]

Hey,

If you want mongering company I'd be up for a walk around to some bars, Shinodayama, or Tobita on Tueday in the late afternoon or evening. If you'll still be in town let me know what your plans are. Any other mongers interested in a walk about?Thanks - But have now left Osaka and back home. Thanks to the forum had myself quite an interesting time. Managed to find Tobita and sampled the wares. I guess I should contribute my experiences here in the spirit of the site.

I went to Tobita on a weekday evening about 8.30/9 pm. There were quite a few stores opened and I received a few "Dozo" from the Mamasan's- percentage wise around 50-60% - I'm average white guy no japanese, but i did walk slowly, looked everyone in the eyes and acknowledged those who did so to me. It was pretty busy with taxi's full of japanese businessmen stopping and young guys curb crawling along. I had to stand to one side as cars passed ech other. I seemed to be one of the few wandering around on foot. It was a little chilly but not too cold.

I siezed up the talent and found that while there were some mamasan's who would invite you in, some of the girls were less than impressed. I chose based on the smile of the girl and the engagement and friendliness when I was talking to the mamasan. The prices are posted on the wall and seem to start at Y11,000 for 15/20min.

The first girl was pretty, thin with "Big hair and lot of make up" but her service was very ordinary and mechanical. Not very interested, didn't allow any touching, even a hug, and just dropped on her back a nanosecond after entering the room. And that was about the time I needed to decide that I wasn't going to really enjoy myself with her, so dressed and thanked her. Leaving graciously, explaining tht it wasn't her but me - and with many Arigato's guzamus' on the way out. I guess the Mamasan didn't do her girl any favors if she didn't want to spend time with me. This shop had a green four leaf clover on the shade over the door - I thought this was going to play in my favour, but it didn't. I had the 15min option so it wasn't a big deal.

I was going to leave it there and call it a night, but as I was trying to get my bearings, I passed a shop with a Mamasan who jumped up as I approached- she was very keen to get me in, so I stopped to talk- She was doing a real sell job on the girl and the girl was very keen also. So not wanting to offend their obliging nature, I accepted.

This girl was small, dark hair and a nice full rack. The thing that did it for me was the shorts and thigh high stocking that all the girls seem to be wearing in Osaka right now- God bless fashionistas. How could I resist?

Having the feeling that the luck of Eire was coming back, I forked out Y16,000 for a 30 min session and proceeded to experience a really attentive, affectionate GFE- All with the delightful stockings in-situ! She seemed to enjoy herself and so did I. She told me her name was Mako or something very similar, and she was wearing a necklace with a diamond M initial so I guess that's pretty close.

When I was getting dressed, she saw I was carrying a camera (Hey I'm a tourist after all!) and encouraged me to take a picture! I checked her meaning and she started ti pose, so I snapped a few pictures of her. It would have been rude not to right?

She spoke very little English, and I speak very little (read No) Japanese but we seemed to get on and managed quite well.

I left with a big smile on my face and used every gracious and thankful phrase I could to the Mamasan as I was leaving, including the international signal for I had a great time - The thumbs up!!

Thanks to you all for your contributions here.

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[Anonmyous]

this is a summary of several places worth mention in osaka. most of this is a cut and paste job from the latest 25 pages of the forum, but sometimes it is nice to get your information all at once.
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osaka fats

a real challenge to find if you don't know where to look. even with instructions from the tencho it took me 10 minutes-and i was 2 blocks away!

look at the photo attached. if you can get yourself in this position you will be in front of the door.

the trick is to find the ymca, then walk south about 20m until you are in front of the mielle coffee shop (some name like that). do not make the mistake i made of trying to find it next to the hilo coffee shop to the left of the ymca. the door to osaka fats is to the right of the mielle coffee shop. it has kentucky written on it (sidesways in small white letters), but otherwise is very non-descript.

the tencho is a nice guy who says he gets calls from foreigners, but only 2 have actually made it to the shop. he is nervous about trying to explain how to find it and the menu in english, but once you are there you should be ok.

they had about 12 girls working the day i went. 2/3 were busy and had wait times of 30-90 minutes, but i managed to pick a decent "slender" type (relatively slender that is).

the girl was not as cute as in the pict, but i would say the picts are pretty accurate. nice d/e cups, which of course was the whole point of goingt to of. perhaps a 6-7/10 on a i-like-big-gals scale.

13,000 for 70 minutes (nicer than expected hotel included), clock starts once you're in the hotel. playtime is really 55minutes, but that was enough for a leisurely washdown, soak and bbbj in the tub, then daty and bbbj in bed, and a little more soak and rinse.

upon leaving i asked whether fs was forbidden, and she smiled and said not necessarily. whether she'd go for it gratis or not i did not ask.

i still have a bit of a problem with girls half my age-they are boring. problem is i like the fresh faces.

cont'd (by dft. poster)

quote:
originally posted by lion
here is the website for anyone who is interested in toftt (i am). 15,000/90min including hotel is a pretty fair price.

http://www.osakafats.com/cgi/top.cgi
that is a weekday only special. the i course after 5 p.m. is 100 minutes for 15,500. they also have a coupon for free membership card. i've never needed to print out the "ticket" or coupon from the website, but it is probably a good idea anyway. the membership card is a point card, and you can collect points to get discounts on service. the card works at osaka fats and monroe.

osaka fats is hard to find even with a map and bit far from the umeda station. monroe is very close to tanimachi 9 chome station and easy to find. mrs monroe is a hitozuma shop in the same location as monroe. it looks cheaper than the other two shops, but i don't know if you get points. it opened right before i moved, and the girls working there at the time had irregular schedules. i do not know the difference in the shops, because monroe has a few regular 30s women as well.

http://monroe-osf.com/
http://www.mrs-monroe.com/

osaka street scene

quote:
originally posted by xslikx
does anyone know the street scene in osaka these days. there were some reports a few years back about latinas and thai's in the umeda area. i've been looking around in the places mentioned, but haven't seen anything.

i definitely like to find those thai girls, so if anyone knows their new spot, let us know.
if you walked down midosuji from jr umeda to ohatsu tenjin shrine at 2-5-4, sonezaki, kita-ku (this shrine is noted as the setting of the famous story "sonezaki shinju" - lover's suicide at sonezaki) on the left in higashi-sonezaki and continue walking along that street for about 3 main blocks then you would run a gauntlet of street mama-san's supposedly selling veggies as fronts for thai girls. this is also a love hotel and red light area. if you see the sign "grand calm" in big neon then you know you're heading in the right direction. don't know if this has changed recently.


matsushima shinchi
take ease with the same face-showing system as tobita.

location
osaka-shi nishi-ku honda
closest station
osaka city subway chuo-sen kujo station


http://www.tokyosecret.tv/cgi/shinchi/wforum.cgi?file=3

explanation
there are about 80 shops. you can choose while looking at the girl.
get off at kujo station, and head towards the shopping arcade in the direction of the osaka dome.
matsushima shinchi is to the left side of that shopping arcade.
look for a sign that reads "matsushima cooking association". it's easy to spot.
the girls range from the 20's to 30's. plenty of cute and young girls.

condoms are basically used.

the pricing starts at 15k for 30 minutes.

the hours of operation basically start from 4pm.

(azure: looks like our writer friend got a little lazy on this article.)


shinodayama shinchi

the inexpensive, young, and attractive shinodayama shinchi.

location
osaka prefecture izumi-shi sachi
closest station
jr osaka izumi shinodayama station
(290 yen, 35 minutes from tennoji)

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/cgi/shinchi/wforum.cgi?file=2
latest updates and information on shinodayama shinchi

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/cgi/shinc...rum.cgi?file=10
a message board for the girls working in the shinchi of kansai.
you can leave messages without displaying your email address, and there's also a private message box.

explanation
there are approximately 40 shops.

get off at shinodayama station, and walk along the train line towards tennoji for about 10 minutes.
you'll see a drinking place called "inari", turn right there.
you will have arrived at shinodayama shinchi.
if you're going by car, follow prefectural hwy 30 until you find a family mart.
next to that is the parking lot for the shinchi.

unlike tobita, you don't get to see the girls faces.
tell the mamasan what kind of girl you like and she'll call on one for you.
however, what comes out may not be exactly what you were hoping for (smile).
if you say "young", young will come out, and if you say "slender", slender will come out
so you don't have to worry about that aspect.
if you absolutely have to see the girl's face, you can probably go inside, check out the girls,
and point out the one you like.

condoms are basically used.

the pricing is 7500 for 15 minutes and 15k for 30 minutes. for twice the time you pay twice the price.
depending on the shop, the max time limit is 75 minutes.
for courses 30 minutes and above, you can also enter into the bath.

all shops are closed on the 20th of every month.
if you go on the 20th, no one will be there, not even the mamasan on the back streets.

open times depend on the shop, but range from around 10am to 3pm. all shops close at midnight.


imazato shinchi
the very popular imazato shinchi

location
osaka-shi ikuno-ku shin imazato 3-chome
closest station
kintetsu nara line imazato station
(take the local from tsuruhashi - 1 station, 150 yen)

map

the arrows mark two "japanese restaurants", with the shops peppered about in between.
(azure: note that "japanese restaurants" probably means sex shops)
[map here]

message board
http://www.tokyosecret.tv/cgi/shinchi/wforum.cgi?file=4

explanation
there are about 30 shops. same as shinodayama, its a mamasan calls the girls out system.
for a general idea of where it is, please see the map.

pass through the gates at imazato station, and head straight towards the shopping district on the south side for 10 minutes.
cross the two-lane highway and its in the area on the right hand side.
unlike tobita, you can't see the girls beforehand.
tell the mamasan what type you like and she'll call a girl out for you.
the ages range from 20-40.
there are no showers.
if you choose a course over 1 hour (26k), then you can take the girl to a hotel in a different location.
condoms are basically used.

the pricing starts from 13k for 30 minutes.

hours of operation basically start from 5pm.


tobita shinchi (osaka prefecture)

the infamous tobita. you should definintely go at least once.
its safe to say that the line up here is the treasure of osaka.

location
osaka-shi nishinasri-ku yamaou
the closest station to tobita shinchi is the doubutsuen-mae station on the subway, exit no. 2.

map

[map here]

regarding the arrows on the map, from the top going clock-wise is the tobita shinchi street of youth (plenty of cute and young girls), tobita shinchi main street (full selection), tobita shinchi daimon street, hyakuban izakaya, ghost street 2 (there are a lot of older women, but sometimes you'll be surprised to find a cute, young girl), and ghost street 1 (same as ghost street 2).

message board

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/cgi/shinchi/wforum.cgi?file=1
latest updates and information on tobita shinchi

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/cgi/shinc...rum.cgi?file=10
the first shinchi in kansai to feature a message board for the working girls.
features questions for those who are curious about working in tobita.
you can leave messages without displaying your email address, and there's also a private message box.

explanation
i think there are about 100 shops in tobita (i've never actually counted)
if your car isn't too big, you can make the rounds by car.
but the streets are narrow and there are plenty of people walking about, so do be extra careful.
as for how to play, as there are plenty of girls sitting and showing their face along the street,
first, just wander around and find a girl you like.
they're especially proficient at adjusting the light just right to make the girl look cute.
as for how to play well, a tip is if you find a girl you think is cute, just go right in.
if you decide to check around and come back to her later, you may be saddened to find that someone else has taken her - this happens often.
(but if you wait a little while, she's probably come back out again.)
for the girls who are sitting, after a little while they switch of.
if no one's sitting in the genkan but the lights are on, it means that the girl at that shop is currently busy with a customer.
if you find a girl you like, step inside the shop and begin talks with the mamasan.
if you don't like the situation after all, you can always leave.
you can bargain the price a little, but asking for too much will get you nowhere.

if talks are successful, you'll go up to the rooms on the second floor.
it's a 4-tatami mat room with a futon and table.

there is no shower.
try to go to the bathroom beforehand.
bareback is possible but it depends on the girl.

the prices are, 11k for 20 minutes, but on the street of youth it's 16k for 20 minutes, 21k for 30 minutes, and 31k for 40 minutes. the hours of operation are from about 1pm until midnight. i believe there are the most girls during the evening.
at midnight, the lights go out and it becomes a pretty sad place.

they're closed on new year's eve and new year's day.

external links
hyakuban http://r.gnavi.co.jp/k069800/
an izakaya that uses an old red-light district building from the taisho period in tobita.


toukaen in umeda
mak daddy,

i looked at the map and it looks right. there are many ?????(soap land information office) near it, i am sure if you mention the name of the place someone will give you directions. name of the shop is ??????(esute toukaen). i'm looking forward to hear from you about the service.

another map :

http://www.f-navi.co.jp/kintarou/map.htm

their homepage

http://www.f-navi.co.jp/kintarou/index.htm

quote:
originally posted by mak daddy
gifuboy:

thanks for the heads up. that sounds like a good place, and i will give it a try. however, why don't people include the addresses for these places? yea, addresses in japan are a pain in the ass, but it is better than trying to navigate by 'left at the taxi, and right at the smell of the udon'. especially once you get used to using japanese addresses, there is a sort of bizarre logic to them.

i called and the guy said the address is matsunoki bldg. 11-2 doyama-cho; kita-ku, osaka or ???????11-2????. i am not sure of those characters for the building name. that is just a guess.

here is the link on the map: http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?lat=34.70...map&type=scroll

does that look right? thanks again.

mak

how to get there

i am not sure if i was precise enough when giving the directions. when getting off at osaka (umeda) station, find the tourist information center. then you cross the large crosswalk and it's straight all the way. as you pass hep navio, there are many muryousodanjou (free information kiosks for soap lands), if you have the name of the place you can ask and i think they might help you. as you go straight and have crossed 3 crosswalks (one at the tourist info center, one at hep navio and one with the tsutaya sign on the left) there will be less and less restaurant and people. if you get lost, turn right and you'll end up on a big street, there's a lawson there. face the lawson and take the street on the left of the lawson, go straight and on your left you should see the sign of the shop i posted earlier. the shop is on the first floor.

(taken from these directions: from umeda station, find the tourist information center. cross the large crosswalk and go straight. near hep navio, cross again a double crosswalk. keep going straight, another crosswalk, on your left you should see the sign tsutaya cd/dvd, keep going straight for 5 mins. then turn left and you should see the sign. name of the shop is esute momo hana en (or something like that). price is 1 man yean 40 min fs. you can get a longer course. 40 mins includes shower, bj, everything.)



(more about toukaen, or by another name?)

toukakyo - chinese este
i was in osaka recently, and i decided to try toukakyo (referred to by others here as toukaen. i think they change their name). let me say that i almost hesitate to share this place with others because it is so damn fantastic! enjoy, but please don't mess it up!

it is hard to find. probably the easiest way to find it is to go out exit #6 from izumi no hiroba in the umeda underground shopping arcade. walk east on ogimachi street until you find the daikoku pharmacy on your left. turn left and walk from there about 150 yards until you see the shrine on your right. its immediately past the shrine in a little alleyway to your left on the first floor.

walk right in. don't go up the stairs. the entrance hall goes right then left. theres a couple of long couches. the manager should come out and greet you. i speak fluent japanese, so i got in right away. it was my first time there, so i selected the 40 minutes for 10, 000 yen course. most of the girls available were different from the girls pictured on the website, but just as pretty. they were dressed for work, but i'd give them all 7s or 8s, at least. i wasn't offered the 3-way course, but i understand it 20, 000 yen for 40 minutes or 24, 000 for 60.

they will all come out and line up, and you can pick whichever you like. i chose mari. she looked a bit older than the rest, but more sophisticated and with a gorgeous body and great tits. the girls are all chinese, mostly from manchuria and other places in ne china. mari spoke really good japanese, and said she said she had been in japan two years.

the service is in a back room with individual carrels that are a bit small. privacy is better than if you went in a pink salon, but everyone can hear what's going on next door. not really a problem for me, but if you don't like it, some people have indicated that you can take your girl (s) to a nearby love hotel instead.

your girl will have you take your clothes off and she'll carefully put them in a locker in the carrel that she will give you the key to. then its off to the shower. a quick scrub to make sure you're clean, especially for the bits that are going to be serviced, and its back to the room to get started.

mari took off her clothes to reveal a body that was just a little pudgy, but very nice with some really big titties. her skin was very smooth and soft, with almost no marks or hair. her bush was neatly groomed.

she started licking my nipples and massaging me, quickly working her way south. i'm a big guy in most aspects, and mari commented on my comparitively large penis size (by japanese standards i'm huge). she then proceeded to give me the best bbbj i have ever had. i'm about 7 inches long, but she swallowed most of me. i don't usually visit these kind of places, and it was my first visit to an fs place, but when my cock was in her velvety mouth and she was massaging my balls, all my nervousness and tension faded away. she kept eye contact with me nearly the whole time she was blowing me, stopping only occasionally to ask me how it felt.

after several minutes of this, she slipped a condom on me with her mouth and then asked if we could start missionary. i was more than happy to. and after she applied a little lube, we started slowly. one of the reasons i don't visit fs shops is that i don't like condoms. i'm less sensitive than average, and so it takes me a long time to finish even without one. the "jimmy hat" usually deadens the sensation so much that its barely worth my time. however mari was very warm and tight, and she did tricks moving her pelvis that almost completely made up for the presence of the rubber.

we did most of the positions, starting off slowly until she could adjust to the size of my cock. her body was fantastic, and the noises she made were really sexy. i could tell that a few times i got to her, because she switched from japanese to mandarin temporarily before regaining her composure and returning to japanese.

once we had worked our way through all the major positions, she seemed a bit concerned that i hadn't come yet. she told me we could continue trying or she would be happy to finish me off with an hj. of course i wanted to try more so we went back to missionary. she started flipping her hips in this totally unreal motion, and within a few minutes i came.

she had me rest for a while, and we chatted while someone in the next carrel over enjoyed a really noisy bj. the conversation was very pleasant, but it seemed a little odd to me after what we had just done. i know this place has been mentioned in other reports here, so i asked her if they got many foreign clients. she said no, that i was her first, and she marvelled at how white my skin was. (yet another reason i love asia! ) she did say that the store was pretty busy and had a reputation for being low-cost. i would have to say that i think that this place is a fantastic bargain. fs from a beautiful, talented chinese hottie? i'd pay a lot more than i did. i would be more than happy to see mari again, but i don't live in osaka, so i think if i can swing by there again, i'd try someone else, or if i've got more cash, try the 3p course.

their website is at: http://www.f-navi. co. jp/kintarou/index. htm (in japanese only)


af-sentai (and other notes)

quote:
originally posted by mak daddy
af place i have used on a couple occassions:

http://www.af-sentai.net/gal.php the hot one at that place said she would not do foreigners.

according to another mongerer:

"the site does say it has a number of cuties, but when i went i had to pay first, and then the choice of 8 i was given only had 1-2 i though attractive. i picked a gal who was supposedly thin, but had actually put on about 20kg since she started working there and was about 60kg in real life. nice enough, but not exactly a high class place. one poster got me thinking about the nama/naka dashi offered-an aids timebomb as he put it..."


af-sentai allows foreigners with passable japanese in the door. no problem. never had a girl there turn me down. staff was friendly and helpful. unless you call ahead with a reservation (usually no extra fee, but don't be late! ) might have to wait a while for the girl to show up. waiting room is loud, smokey, and the other customers will stare at you. best to make an appointment and come back in an hour or so.

multi-pops are a go with most girls. only some will do bbtc, if that's your thing. most girls are japanese, they had one or two other asians there earlier this year, but i don't know some of the girls working there now. the girls do their prep before the session starts, anal has always been clean. the condom-only girls are prettier. never met a girl there with an attitude, though some of the girls i've seen there are a little run down physically. typical japanese bad teeth, bad skin problems. a few of them look like their pictures, but many do not. you can request a face-to-face meeting before going off together for extra yens. i've tried before to take the "free" girl and avoid the selection fee, but i always seem to pay it anyway. staff likes to put out the photos before you can say "i'll take whoever is available. "

you pay the guy at the counter for the time, selection fee, member fee (if you don't already have a membership card), and hotel fee. you wait some time while the girl comes in. (even girls listed on the schedule seem to take between 30 minutes and an hour to come to the shop without a reservation.) the girl leads you off to the hotel, negotiates the room, and then you pay her directly for any extras you want, such as [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103) or bareback. bbbj, sumata and covered anal service is always included in the base price. they sometimes run a web special, which includes the selection and membership fee. you'll still have to pay the hotel fee, which is usually lower than paying for the hotel yourself (especially if you take a long session.)

if you like bigger girls, i've had good luck with the osaka fats/monroe network. several girls on staff perform anal, and those are the ones i usually choose. unfortunately, about as often as not, i've gotten cbj with zero chance of bbbj. seems to depend on the girl. hotel fee always included, other fees often waived with monthly specials. covered anal for around 20k yens. 3p service with two large is a riot. (no anal service on 3p)

i used to frequent matsushina over tobita. very nice stopping off for a quicky after seeing a game at the osaka dome. only some shops accept foreigners, maybe 1/3. sometimes mama-san waves you in only for the girl to reject you. i wish i could remember the names of the shops i liked best. there's one larger shop which usually has 3 or 4 gals (early 20s) in the front which always let me in without even a "douzo". walk down the larger street from the covered mall, and look down an alley to your right. everything at matsushina is covered always, i think. no bbbj. price i've always paid is 15, 000 yen for 30 minutes of playtime, plus before and after shower. easier to take your time than at tobita.


kinbana (esute)

i went to this place called "kinbana" - think the kanji for gold and flower - the other day after a bit of a drink with some coworkers. they left early to go back to work (they were really busy for some reason), leaving me alone in the shady part of umeda around doyamamachi (think close to umeda station, behind the tsutaya building).

i needed to get a release so i looked around for some estes and found this place. i forgot all of the prices off hand except for mine, which was 60 minutes for 15,000 yen. the price is actually 13,000 yen for 60 minutes, but once you go and meet the girl inside she asks you if you want the "full service" and asks you for an extra 2,000 yen. not a bad hit, i guess.

like other places the 60 minutes was basically 40 minutes playing around/fucking and the rest of the time was a massage/shower. that night i got this chinese girl named riri who was dressed up in this very sexy china doll dress. her head-giving tech wasn't all that great but she rode me like a champ and loved it when i scooped her up into my arms and started doing her upright.

the address for the place is here:
osaka-shi, kita-ku, doyama-machi 11-2
06-6367-5957
cosmo plaza 3rd floor

in the same building there are a bunch of other este places that probably offer similar services but i haven't gone. maybe some of my esteemed colleagues can toftt?


mangekyo (esute in osaka near jr kyobashi)

kyobashi chinese este
typical chinese este, but the price is pretty good, around ¥11,000 for an hour. foreigner friendly. http://www.mangekyou-esute.com/ i won't be going back, because prefer japanese, and tobita where you can window shop.

mak




chinese hoteru in umeda

on the second night in osaka while walking in the umeda area east of the osaka railway station, a taiwanese massage girl talked me into a message. she was young and cute but the services offered at the dimly lit place she took me only included massage. i took her up on it and she did the massage which was just ok. i asked her in mandarin while she worked my back if there are any girls that could provide full service (zuo ai in chinese). she said she could take me to such a place. after the massage she took me to place that folks on this board refer to as a chinese hoteru on the ground floor of a building near a long covered arcade that extends several streets eastward from the whitey underground mall east of the osaka station and connected train stations in the umeda area. if you know this arcade the hoteru is at the very end after the arcade turns into an open lane with similar establishments. i do not know the name of the place.

at any given time there are 6 to 10 girls working. you can see all of their photos on a menu and the girls who are working are indicated with an arrow. if there are not many customers all the girls sit on a sofa and you can inspect all of the ladies in the flesh at one time. the price is 12000 for 60 minutes of bbbj and full serve. the first night i tried it i paid more than the 12000 but i was too drunk too figure out why i charged more. on my subsequent visits, i paid the 12000. the girls are all 7-9 and my first pick was a tall slim 9 from northeastern china but i don’t recall her name. the girls here are all chinese but speak japanese well enough. don’t expect any to know english other than the obligatory " oooh you big! "

the place consists of 2 or 3 large rooms that are sub-divided with thin dividers that are tall enough for visual privacy but do not reach the ceiling. as far as sound, you can here all the other sessions going on around you. each larger room has 1 or 2 showers. the lady leads you first to you cubicle where you both undress. there’s a locker in each cubicle. the lady showers you and then back to the cubicle where she starts with a quick back massage, before going down for a some bb head for the first course and then the rest. my girl provided great service but i had way to muck to drink and couldn’t come, but not for lack of trying on the part of my girl. i went back the next night in much better condition and picked a girl named ai, also from northeastern china, but she normally lives in guangzhou (no doubt working in the trade). we connected immediately. if you have never every sampled a harbin girl, i highly recommend it. ai was not tall but had a great body and an truly outstanding rack. her bbbj was fantastic and then we got down to it, but not before eating her delightful pussy. the experience was total gfe including dfk and eventually i did her in every conceivable position possible within the confines of a 2x3 meter cubicle. my favorite was turning perpendicular to the small bed and pounding her senseless while her head banged against the flimsy wall. she loved it and let out screams of joy. although i never felt rushed she did inform me of the time about ten minutes before the 60 minutes were up so i took that as my cue to finfish up. i fished off french between here fabulous breasts and delivered my load all over here neck and shoulders but not on her face or in her mouth. i think cim probably would be fine here but i didn’t try it. on the way to shower, she said i stretched her out so that now her pussy was not tight enough for the japanese clientele. we had a good laugh.

these girls were just as pretty and for just over us$100 a pop, i think it was a pretty good deal for japan.

directions: the easiest way to find this place is to emerge from the whitey underground shopping mall at the very east end from the ne exit and walk east along the major avenue. pass a few blocks and you will come to a lawson convenience store on the north side of this avenue which has a small parking area. go left on the small street immediately before lawson and walk until you see a small walled shrine on your right. go left on to a small lane and the place is the ground floor establishment which pink colored signs. i have provided a map. follow the red lines.


matsushima shinchi

i am new to osaka. all my previous mongering expereince has been in shanghai, which is a fun city to be in.

i had done a walk around tobita last week to see what is available and today decided to explore matsushima shinchi.

after reading some reports and searching the internet, i finally figured out where matsushima is and off i went.

found it alright. there are about 70-80 shops there. half of them were open at 5 pm. the girls are not as young or beautiful as tobita but with 20min for 10,000 yen and additional time for shower, its a good deal.

the call rate is not as high as tobita either but i did get an invite from some couple of young beauties so plan to go there over the weekend again.

dirctions - take the chuo line to kujo station and get out at exit 6. u see a mcdonald. take a u turn away from it and walk on the road for 2-3 mins till u reach hotel tropical, turn right and u are in matsushima.

map attached as reference.

kj


matsushima is located near the intersection of minato-dori and honden, west side of the avenue, about 1 km north of the dome--you recognize it by the neon half-arches marking it off. 60-80 girls sitting in doorways with their mammasan, many 7s, 8s, and 9s. 50% strikeout ratio for foreigners. had a solid gfe, one near gfe, and one regular service: 20 min. = 10,000 yen. plenty of action by 4pm. don`t ask for further directions, because i can`t help you out any further. recommend super city hotel for great free spa service: www.superhotel.co.jp 20 min walk to district.


osaka rlds (notes)

although there are fewer houses in matsushima, there are usually two or three girls in each one, so the numbers are closer to those in tobita than it would at first appear. on the other hand, the girls usually sit behind a little counter, so you can't see their bodies. there are some hot girls here but its mostly 6.5-8 range, very few real beauties. in matsushima, you get 20 mins for 10,000, 30 min for 15,000. you take a shower and the clock starts after you get back to the room.

i think the call rate in tobita depends on a lot of factors. i usually only pick a place where the mamasan says "dozo" and the girl is giving me a nice big smile. there are some places where the girl looks excited but the mamasan does not call out, but i haven't tried any of these (although based on ak's post, i will).

quote:
there are at least 10 red light districts in the kansai area near osaka.

1. tobita (80-90 shops)

2. matsushima shinchi (70 shops)

3. imazato shinchi (30 shops)

4. kannami shinchi (30-40 shops)

5. shintaizan shinchi (30 shops)

6. gojo rakuen (15 shops)

7. ikoma city (10 shops)

8. takii shinchi (10 shops)

9tenno shinchi (5 shops)


frejia

quote:
originally posted by hunter20
on a saturday morning i started my tour in umeda. from jr osaka stn. i followed the directions for hanshin railway umeda stn. and continued my way eastward through the whity underground shopping mall to exit m14. the red light district is located to the south-east of this exit.

my first try was freajia, a hoteheru with married women (hitoduma) and very low prices. see its homepage http://www.osaka-093.com/fa/pc/main/main.html for directions and rates and http://kansai.bigdesire.co.jp/shop.php?shop=163 for a discount coupon. the coupon gives you a 60 min course for as less as 7,900 yen; even inclusive the hotel room charge. [/blue][/size]


i found hunter's report intriguing and so i went in search of frejia. his assistance getting there was just right. his instructions along with the map from frejia's website led me there very well. the one thing i would suggest is tricky for those less familiar with osaka is figuring out the labyrinthine underground malls. pay careful attention to the fact that the exit is m14 - if you look on the maps displayed every once in a while once you are in whity (yes, i know it is a very funny name) just look for the one marked m. it isn't very big, so once you find it, the exit is nearby. take the south stairway, go two blocks, turn right, then take the third left. the diamond building is on your left. not well marked, but i asked a tout and he knew right away. another thing to note: frejia is on the 4th floor, but the name of the shop is not posted outside (you see it once you are inside if you can read katakana). once you exit the elevator, go left to the end of the hall. it is the last door on your left. other guys working in the building didn't even know it by its name, so it took me some time to figure out which shop it was.

i asked whethe gaijin were ok, and got the same response hunter described. after ascertaining that i could get by in japanese (the standard is not high, just have to have enough so you can understand basic instructons and chat a little with the girl), the man consulted with a girl or two behind the curtain, and then when returning, showed me a photo of a girl and asked whether that one was ok... she looked pretty good in the photo, so i said sure.

i took the 60 minute course, which was offered at 8900 - i had no coupon, and perhaps the difference reflected time of day (i was there in the evening). still a good price.

kyo was very nice, a bit overweight and has bad teeth, but otherwise attractive (and i do not generally go for heavier women), and very friendly and fun. and indeed, she is a married woman (told me she has a bunch of kids), and works only weekends. she stripped down and straddled my lap in reverse position grinding up against me to get me hot, and then turned around to give me a great bbbj while waiting for the tub to fill; then when i started in on her nipples and stimulating her by hand, she got so involved, we didn't get to the bath before the first round.

then the bath, and with only a hint, i was given a second bj in the tub. nice.

this one was a real gfe. lot's of lying together and hugging afterward, small chat... she really seemed to enjoy it, and then gave me a card when we were fininshed so i could call the shop to request her again. highly recommended to those who enjoy this type of girl and understand the limits.

by the way, the neighborhood around there is a very active red light area. there might well be other places that will take gaijin. i was propositioned by a sw as i exited the underground, so i suspect there are other possibilities there.


kujo
take the chuo-line (green line) to kujo. when you get to the station take exit 6. make sure that you are exiting on the osaka-dome side. at the bottom of stairs the shopping street will be on your left and the road on your right. turn and put the road on your left and the shopping street on your left. now walk towards the large orange hotel sign. then turn right and start looking for those white signs you see in tobita. this area is the same, but smaller.

hopefully this map will help you find the kujo-brothel area.

http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=utf8...9,0.002789&om=1

vanilla - chinese este in shinsaibashi
after reading all the reports of not finding gaijin-friendly places in osaka, i decided to try to add one to the list for you guys on my last day in osaka, and surprisingly, i succeeded in finding a very good option close to doutenbori.

while walking in the area the other day, i was approached by a tout inviting me into a chinese este almost directly across the street from the hotel metro 21, which is on a street parallel to and just one block to the north of doutenbori called soemoncho, and about one block west of sakai dori. i couldn't go in then, but said i would come back. and i did, but the tout was not there. so i decided it would be worth the risk to just go up and see. the building had a number of places, but somehow i guessed the 5th floor, and of the two up there, only one was open, so i walked in and was immediately welcomed. they showed me a bunch of photos of girls, and i picked maki, who was very cute. the charge would be 12,000 for 40 minutes, including massage, and bbbj (i always confirm that it will be nama ferra since they don't always do this for gaijin).

one of the men then took me to another building because their shower was not working - it turned out to be another este with a very simjilar sign at street level - so obvioiusly owned by same folks - about two blocks away called vanilla (banira in katakana), also on the 5th floor of its building. along the way he told me that fs was available for an additional 6k when i asked to confirm that the price included everything.

maki was indeed the girl in the photo i picked, and she was great! chinese and very sweet. and the place was nice for its type - stalls with mats were roomy and very clean with decent music playing.

assisted shower, massage, then she showered and came back and said we would begin service, which meant her towel came off to show a wonderful body and she proceeded to give me a nice bbbj. lots of joking around in the few words of chinese i know (saying i love you in chinese is always a head turner to the chinese girls i have met in such places). after a while she asked me if i wanted sex, and explained that would be another 6k, just as the guy had said, be she added that this would increase my time to 1 hour. (i recalled there was a one hour option for 18k, so this was not at all unexpected). i agreed, paid in advance, and out came a raincoat and off to the races we were. after a long time of various positions we stopped fs because the raincoat bothered me, and she willingly finished me off with another bj. maki was a real gfe - indeed, one of the best i have ever had in japan. highly recommend both her and vanilla. if the other girls are as accomodating and cute as she is, this place is a real winner in my book.

when i walked past the first place on my way out of vanilla, the tout ( a middle-aged guy) was back, and remembered me. he tried to get me to come up, but when i finally made hijm realize that i had just been at vanilla (my japanese is functional, but far from fluent) he was very surprised that i had found my way in and to vanilla without him. but he was anxious to invite me again, so i think this place is obviously generally friendly to gaijin.

to get to vanilla directly: it is on a street perpendicular to doutenbori. it is one of the streets that has a bridge across to doutenbori - this one is just one bridge to the east of the one that has the famous glico sign (the running boy). there is a parking lot on the first block after the bridge heading north. vanilla is across the street just after the parking lot on the 5th floor.

hope this helps some of you!

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Azure Knight]

Tobita 50 years ago. http://mdn.mainichi.jp/photospecials/graph/080331baishun/6.html

The title says "The day the red lights went out in Japan". No, they haven't my friend.

Anyway, I was curious if anyone's been by Toukaen lately? With all the cracking down on illegal foreigners lately I can't help but to be a little concerned. I do want to drop by...but I'm also a little scared of a random raid.

[Anonmyous]

Tobita 50 years ago. http://mdn.mainichi.jp/photospecials/graph/080331baishun/6.html

The title says "The day the red lights went out in Japan". No, they haven't my friend.

Anyway, I was curious if anyone's been by Toukaen lately? With all the cracking down on illegal foreigners lately I can't help but to be a little concerned. I do want to drop by...but I'm also a little scared of a random raid.Ak,

I went about a week ago, but haven't made the post yet. Apologies.

Fear not, Toukaen remains a active paradise of carnal. Well, you get the idea. It's there and running fine to the best of my knowledge.

More in my post later.

Anonmyous

[Gaijin Otoko]

Tobita 50 years ago. http://mdn.mainichi.jp/photospecials/graph/080331baishun/6.html

The title says "The day the red lights went out in Japan". No, they haven't my friend.

Anyway, I was curious if anyone's been by Toukaen lately? With all the cracking down on illegal foreigners lately I can't help but to be a little concerned. I do want to drop by...but I'm also a little scared of a random raid.Toukaen changed their name to Toukakyo. Other than that, it's still there.

[Xslikx]

I went by tonight and was told, "Japanese only" with the dame sign.

I asked since when and the old guy told me some date in April.

The place upstairs seemed to be just a typical Chinese ripoff joint. They wanted 30,000 for massaji and 15,000 the full deal. They were very squeamish about what this full deal involved beyond some gestures that the girl would make everytime I asked about it.

I stopped by a few of the BJ bars and was also told they were for Japanese only.

[Xslikx]

Where's the edit button?

Anyway, my last report should read" 30,00 for massaji."

[Saint Of Killers]

I went by tonight and was told, "Japanese only" with the dame sign.

I asked since when and the old guy told me some date in April.

The place upstairs seemed to be just a typical Chinese ripoff joint. They wanted 30,000 for massaji and 15,000 the full deal. They were very squeamish about what this full deal involved beyond some gestures that the girl would make everytime I asked about it.

I stopped by a few of the BJ bars and was also told they were for Japanese only.I can confirm this. When I went there today they immediately asked me if I was a foreigner or Japanese, I guess since my speaking style isn't exactly natural. I said I was a foreigner living in Japan for over 4 years, and they went to the back and asked the girls who would want to come out, and five of them did. I guess those are the foreigner friendly girls? One of the girls, Ruru, saw me and did the genki "hisashiburi! " remark to me and I guess that put the guy at ease seeing that one of the girls was actually happy to see me.

I asked Ruru why foreigners weren't allowed and she said there were some guys who they didn't want to deal with. I guess you can say whoever went there recently kind of caused trouble and ruined it for the non-asian foreigners. Hopefully it wasn't anyone lurking or posting on this board.

[Asian Travels]

Returned to Osaka and had a bit of time between meetings and thought I would try the Juso area one stop on the Hankyu line from Umeda Osaka.

Wandering around I must have been in the wrong area (just north of tracks) as I could only find a Nurse outfit (no foriegners allowed) and a bunch of Chinese massage places just off the covered shopping arcade.

Decided to TOFFT and wandered up into one. It was small and courses were 30min/5,000, 40min/10,000 etc..I like a fool opted for the cheap one since I had no idea what kind of gals were on tap. The guy was shocked to have a foreigner in there, but said OK after warning me it was just massage and HJ.

He made about 3 calls and found a willing gal-apparently the three shops are all linked to the same business.

A no-too-bad gal showed up in about 5 minutes. Late 20s, tall and friendly. Nice HJ but a bt hurried. Quick self shower and then a fair massage for another 10 minutes.

She got a real kick out of the fact I spoke some Chinese, and told her friend who came in to look and massage my feet for a minute.

She told me that the 10,000 course includes Eichi (H), or FS, so I may stop in another time, as the gal I had and the other I saw were cute enough in my book.

[Cooler8]

I stayed at the sheraton miyako hotel which is a stone throw away from the monroe. As directed by some of the guys here, I followed the directions and found the building with ease. However, the minus point is that I can't speak japanese althought I am an asian. The lady manning the counter rudely ignored me and walked behind the curtain. Indicating that I am not welcomed.

I then took a subway to the famous tobita and my success rate were so much higher. About 60-70% of the mamasan greeted me with a "dozo" and waved at me. I took my time and ended up with a much matured woman. The session was mechanical and routine and I did't really enjoyed the session. I hope I can brush up my japanese the next time I return and hope that the joints are more gaijin friendly then.

[Ozboy]

Tobita girls and mamasans often ask straightaway if you can speak Japanese. If you can't, there is a strong possibility that you might be refused, even if otherwise you pass muster.

Went back about a week ago for the first time in a long time. Spent the time with one of the most beautiful, sexiest girls of my life, though again the conversation was somewhat of a downer. She is paying off debt, has a boyfriend, etc. But I made her laugh a few times after we were done. We do what we can despite what we do, I guess.

[Ozboy]

Course prices at Tobita.

[Azure Knight]

hi. you may all remember me as the guy who had a terrible call rate at tobita. "had" being the operative word here.

i went last night for the first time in a little while. my last time, i got to go with a true master - just watching him work the streets was an incredible lesson from the pros. i decided to try and emulate his tactics, see if i couldn't improve my call rates. and let me tell you, it worked wonderfully! there were, of course, girls who immediately looked away and were impossible, but forget them - i had about a 60-70% success ratio going. some of the mamasan would look away, or start to snicker, but a simple smile and "konban wa" was the perfect disarming tool, and once that happened i was just another potential customer.

i walked up the main street once slowly, just smiling and making eye contact, mentally marking girls i liked. i found two - an absolute stunner in one shop, and a girl wearing a nurse's outfit with a really cute smile in another. i came back down the street to get a better look at them both, then decided on the stunner. while the mamasan never called out to me, i simply walked up, smiled, and gave a konban wa. then the mamasan asked if i'd like to come in. from here, both she and the girl started to realize i could handle myself in japanese - but at this point i'd already gotten in with little more than a smile, eye contact, and a simple greeting.

the girl (forgot her name!) is, without question, the hottest woman i have ever experienced. if you don't mind fake tits, an absolute 10. i was a bit surprised to find that she offered the 15 minute, 11,000 yen course - most shops on the main street don't. i opted for 20 minutes, and boy was i glad that i did! i could tell the exact point at which she genuinely started to enjoy herself as well, and i'm pretty sure she got off too. she had a mirror at the head of the futon perfectly positioned for doggy, and in between looking down at her nice ass, and then looking in the mirror at the rest of her, i was in heaven! she worked hard to get me off within the time - after cleanup we talked some more. i'll defininitely be paying her a visit again soon!

as i left the shop, the mamasan was extremely friendly to me. even the new girl sitting out front, also a hottie, seemed interested in me. i started to make my way out of tobita, but i couldn't get the other girl out of my mind, the one in the nurse's outfit with the great smile. i actually doubled back (making sure to avoid the shop i'd just been in), but i found that the nurse girl wasn't quite as attractive as i'd remembered - i think having experienced near-perfection before this poor girl suffered in the process. oh well, that works better for my wallet. as i walked, many more mamasan were actively calling out to me. i greeted them, smiled, and gave them a friendly "next time".

i haven't done a whole lot of mongering in tokyo, so i'm not really familiar with the scene out there, but i think that if you know where to go, osaka can definintely compete. i'm content.

and on that note - the isg is certainly a wonderful resource, i know i wouldn't have found my favorite spots without it. and i know there are a lot of people reading who aren't necessarily posting. i'm not sure what went down at toukaen, but something apparently made them change their policy from "hey, all foreigners ok!" to "no foreigners allowed!" for us foreigners, mongering in japan is not a privilege. there are many things that japanese men can get away with and we can't. that's why we have to be at the top of our game. finding a place that we can actually go to means that either the tencho or girls are open-minded and ok with us, or some monger before you has paved the way. let's not ruin these resources for ourselves, those who came before us, and those who may come after us.

some basic, common sense stuff -

- always be polite and friendly. treat not only the girl, but other staff there as well, with respect.

- even if you feel the girl/shop ripped you off or gave you terrible service, don't get angry/belligerant there. pay them, leave, and then come back here and write a rep001hing report about it. vent to us, not them. your anger towards them won't make them think "man, i feel bad about shafting this guy!" instead, they'll think "of course, we shouldn't service foreigners here." remember, we're not awarded the same luxuries as the locals.

also, remember that when you play, you're not just playing with the girl you choose/was given to you, in essence you're playing with the whole shop. if you feel that her service is terrible and you start chewing her out for it, or you start making demands she doesn't really want to acquiese to, she's going to go back to her tencho and the other girls and tell them that foreigners make for terrible customers.

hits and misses are just a part of the industry. striking out with one girl may not mean the whole shop is bad, and striking out at one shop may not mean the entire area is bad; yet your behavior with one girl can influence your treatment at the whole shop, and your behavior at one shop can influence your treatment in the entire area. and not just for you - but for all of us as well.

- don't go anywhere in big groups of foreign guys. foreigners draw attention here in japan, and these businesses operate on the down-low. the police will look the other way a lot regarding this business, but if a shop starts to get showy, then they'll be forced to make moves. this goes double for foreign-to-foreign p2p. as my tencho friend yoshi explained to me, the cops attitude is "neither the girl or john are japanese; why are they doing this on japanese soil? go back to your own country and do that there!" even if you are by yourself, but you see the cops loitering around a place you want to go to, you may want to lay low and play it safe.

- learn some basic japanese. you don't need to be fluent, but just a few conversational phrases to help things along. good evening, how much, how long, thank you for the service, etc. it will go a long way.

its unfair in that i suspect many, if not most japanese customers, are guilty of many of the things above. rude, pushy, inconsiderate japanese guys get to have their behavior only affect them - while we're affected on the whole. however, we can actually turn this around to our favor. because the japanese guys can be so gruff, the girls and tencho may be more appreciative of a nice, polite customer - especially the girl. and that will translate into wonderful service and quirks. and open more doors to places that we couldn't go otherwise. the mongering industry in japan will treat you well if you treat it well first.

just my two cents. i figure most of the forum regulars know this already, so i hope that some of the lurkers read this and take it to heart. i want to report about nice new places i've found and not worry about whether some guy who found the place thanks to my report is going to ruin it for all of us.

[Lion]

Course prices at Tobita.

With quickies for 11-15,000 but high prices of 60min/41,000 and 120min 81,000 it is easy to see Tobita relies on the quicky market.

You could probably get a DH all night for about 60min rate in Tobita. Problem is of course you won't see her before she shows up, and having a whole night free is not an option for many mongers...

[Xslikx]

Hey AK,

Did you ever have any luck finding a good happening bar in Osaka.

I have a girl who I'm planning on bringing to one, but I'm not going to talk to her about it before hand. I'm just going to tell her to wear something sexy and take her there.

Any ideas?

[Azure Knight]

Actually haven't gone yet. I picked Do Osaka and even registered, but about two days before we were supposed to go my date had to pull out because of a family emergency. She's square now, and we're going to meet up this week, but probably not go to the happening bar. I'm not free on Friday or Saturday, and I don't think it'll be too interesting in the middle of the week.

One thing I will say though is - do NOT surprise her with this. In reading around, most places say very specifically that they discourage a guy bringing a girl without telling her beforehand, and that they just know when a girl has been brought without prior knowledge. Even if she ends up loving the "surprise", it will probably not fare well for you if everyone else knows you brought her without telling her first.

I haven't gone yet, so I don't know what kind of atmosphere it is, but this is just what I've read about it so far.


Hey AK,

Did you ever have any luck finding a good happening bar in Osaka.

I have a girl who I'm planning on bringing to one, but I'm not going to talk to her about it before hand. I'm just going to tell her to wear something sexy and take her there.

Any ideas?

[King Jack]

I wanted to thank all the members here for their useful posts and leads that I got to make my stay in Osaka a memorable one.

It is time to leave now and go to next project and a new mongering destination.

Here are some leads to find some freebies. Both sites are good for people like me who don't understand any Japanese

http://www.japan-guide.com/local/jp/97/
You will find lots of girls here who want foreigner friends or language exchange partners. Got 2 freebies here and 2 very good friends too.

http://whytomo.com/en/

This is like mixi but mostly all girls are from Kansai area and looking for foreigner friends.

Again got 2 freebies here. One whom I have been banging regularly at least 2ice a week for the past 4 months.

KJ

[Azure Knight]

Thanks for the resources King Jack! Information is always appreciated.

Would you mind sharing more about the freebies you scored? Like, your profile, the message exchange, the actual meeting, etc. Inquiring mongers want to know.

[Lion]

I wanted to thank all the members here for their useful posts and leads that I got to make my stay in Osaka a memorable one.

It is time to leave now and go to next project and a new mongering destination.

Here are some leads to find some freebies. Both sites are good for people like me who don't understand any Japanese

http://www.japan-guide.com/local/jp/97/
You will find lots of girls here who want foreigner friends or language exchange partners. Got 2 freebies here and 2 very good friends too.

http://whytomo.com/en/

This is like mixi but mostly all girls are from Kansai area and looking for foreigner friends.

Again got 2 freebies here. One whom I have been banging regularly at least 2ice a week for the past 4 months.

KJ

Very promising, especially for working guys like me who don't have time to troll the bars or coffee shops but would like a little gfe now and then.

[Stew2]

Had a chance to visit GBoys in Nara today (thanks to the report by Anonymous). The location was easy to find – exiting the Kintetsu Nara station, I walked to the first major street (just 30 feet pr so) and then turned left (south). GBoys is at the end of the first block on the left about 3 doors from the end of the block. It was easy to find as there is a large sign on the building (in English) and when opened, there is a sign in the sidewalk. Walk up the the second floor and the GBoys door is right there… the man greeted me as soon as I walked in and hesitated for a moment, but I assured him I could understand enough Japanese, and he relaxed… he made sure I understood that there is no FS here… charges are 5000 for 25 minutes, and 2500 for each additional 10 minutes beyond that. I think from the sign that this is a special price from 11-12 am, and 5-8 pm, but I didn’t see any other prices to compare.

I was shown to a spacious cubicle with a sofa long enough to stretch out on comfortably. Soon Aina came in, and we had a nice chat for a few minutes (very friendly sort), and then she invited me to disrobe, as did she - entirely. She was actually nice looking. By no means a spinner, but she is not fat… but rather is substantial over her whole body - but despite that is still very shapely and has beautiful breasts and a nice face. I was pleasantly surprised at how much she was turn on for me (of course this is a matter of taste, isn’t it). Normally I don’t expect to find one this good at the inexpensive salons.

And she gave excellent service. I explained that I do not come quickly and asked if she would mind that (with this in mind, I had selected the 35 minute session) – I find that letting them know in advance sometimes helps fend off the premature encouragement to come too quickly which I find something of a turnoff when it is a little too anxious. She was cool with it and acted appropriately. Started with a nice ling DFK, then offered me her luscious breasts to munch on, and made appropriate squirrel sounds when I kissed her nipples. She then proceeded to give me a pretty good BBBJ, mixed in with some sumata and Russian… all was good and she responded nicely to my lead.

This is a great find if the other girls there are good also, especially given the low expectations for Nara! In fact, there were no other similar businesses in the neighborhood, so this is a somewhat surprising place. Good find Anonymous!

Stew2

[Stew2]

Went to Toukakyo recently. Once I got there, I realized I was close to Frejia neighborhood (walking to places in the Osaka underground is disorienting to those of us less familiar with the area… but once I got to the exit area in the underground I realized where I was – it’s the same lilttle circle underground that has the exit to Frejia…

Anyway, I was not refused as a gaijin - went in and after it was ascertained that I could carry on basic Japanese conversation (just basic was good enough) I was shown photos of the two girls available to me. Both looked great so I just picked one and paid my 10,000. I was told I had to wait 15 minutes, so I sat down, but was hardly in the seat before both of them came through the door. Risa (or is it Lisa?) grabbed my hand and took me upstairs. We showered together and I enjoyed her full natural breasts and shapely body. When we got into the room she asked me if I wanted a 3-some, and somehow that seemed very appealing at the moment, so for another 10,000 she called in Mimi, who appearedf a few minutes later. That turned out to be a good idea, because I didn’t really click with Risa (she was one who faked too much and encouraged me to cum too quickly, And seemed perpetually uninterested in listening to my request to slow down or do anything off her routine. But Mimi was more responsive to the situation and interested in doing what wouold turn me on… so things worked out pretty well once I shifted Risa off me and got into things with Mimi. Mimi is a smaller girl, with small breast, but definitely cute. Both are Chinese. The place is good, And as others have said, the stalls are close together and you will hear other action – indeed, as we went in and out of the shower, other girls would walk around nude seeming not to even notice me.

The experience was thus a bit mixed – I would go back for Mimi, but would avoid Risa.

Stew2

[Stew2]

Had a couple of experiences in the fashion/health bars in Kyoto recently. One was friendly and good service, but from heavy girl and only covered is available at that shop (7000 damage). It’s a couple doors east of “Heaven” on the one little east-west alley off Kawaramachi north of Shijo that has shops that take gaijins (others have written about this location previously – from Shijo going north on Kawaramachi, it is the 3rd alley to your right). Forget the name of the shop, but it's almost at the east end of the alley... and has a friendly young tout who will reel you in as you pass… but when I came back the second time he remembered me, and I asked him whether he had any slender girls, which he admitted he did not… but immediately called a “brother shop” and confirmed they would service a gaijin… and he then took me the block away to “Peach”, which is directly behind Bar Louis 16th on Kyomachi Dori (street that runs north-south and has a little canal in the middle). Enter through the alleyway north of Louis 14th. Damage 9000. Service was friendly and uncovered without having to ask. Stalls were small and you sit on a mat on the floor, able to see and hear just about everything around you (walls are about 30 inches high). Girl was friendly and ok looking (maybe a 6 – but had teeth that made me really happy I wasn’t a dentist.) Not as cheap as many, but in an area without a lot of options, it was better than others I found.

Incidentally, I previously visited Heaven, but it seems to be changed – sign outside says they have a rental space to offer (i.e., their business is renting space), and it never seemed open or had any tout inviting in… too bad since it was ok about a year ago for gaijin.

Stew2

[Sf Funkster]

I just spent 4 days in Osaka. Forums are only as good as their posts and I found the japan forum to be very useful in figuring out what was going on in Osaka and what I wanted to do. Here's my report on my 4 days.

First I should say that I lived in Osaka for 4 years and I left 15 years ago. I was in my 20's and I worked as a bartender. Needless to say I got laid whenever I wanted and I never had to pay for it. Flash forward to now and I'm a middle-aged guy and there are a lot more gaijin around. It was a somewhat bitter pill to swallow and it colored my experience. Having said that I still had a fun time.

I didn't have to find the fun the first night. It found me. It was pouring rain and I ducked under an awning where a tout came out and began speaking to me in Japanese. When he found out I could speak fairly fluently he pulled me inside where there were a bunch of laminates on a table. He first tried to sell me chinese este but I told him I just wanted japanese girls. He eventually talked me into "mat play". Maybe I'm a little different from other mongerers but I don't really like to do 20 minute sessions. I spent some time in the Philippines and really enjoyed the full GFE. I paid 23,000 yen for 70 minutes. He told me Soapland is banned in Osaka now and I think the only difference between mat play and soapland is that you don't get the full service. The place they pulled me into had a resting area with a bunch of pics. Whoever does their photoshop editing is a master. I picked a girl that looked like a 9. 10 minutes later I met her. She was chubbier than her pick, maybe a 6 but that was fine for mat play. Her name was Ai and she was very nervous about me being her first gaijin. I told her it was my first soap experience. We chatted for a bit more and then she soaped me up on the special chair. I was so turned on that I had to ask her to slow down. Then onto the bath where she gave me a bbbj. Since I paid for extra time I gave her a little back massage and kissed her neck and ears. Then onto the mat. What a trip. They use this really gooey stuff that must be edible as well. She was a master and it was amazing. Eventually she had me face up and rode me but did summata by hold me against her ass. I could tell she was turned on because her cl!t was rock hard. I finished up eventually and she washed me down and had me get back in the tub. Then we laid on the bed for 10 minutes relaxing. I gave her a 2000 yen tip. I think it's important that us gaijin take good care of the women as we're already at a disadvantage. Overall an amazing experience that I'd wanted to do for years.

Night 2 I went to Boston club after reading a posting here. It didn't do much for me. It's basically a hostess bar with some strip dancing. The fun part was that the girls were so amateur in their dancing compared to the pros in the US. I actually liked it better because of that. They gave it all they had on the stage but it was more entertaining than sexy. The main problem is that it was all you can drink and I got plowed. I stayed 2 hours and then took the wrong train and headed to away from Osaka. It took me more than an hour just to get back to where I started. After I got back I stopped by the same place and told the tout I wanted a girl in my hotel room. He charged me 23,000 yen for 90 mins. I made him promise me that she'd be cute. It took about an hour for her to arrive and I drank more which was not the best idea. A guy called me at my hotel room to tell me she was in the lobby but when I walked to the elevator, it opened and they were both there. He took my money and the clock started. She was in fact fairly cute and was dresed very well. I'd give her a 7 or 8. We chatted a bit then took a bath and proceeded to the bed. However she was a bit of a dead fish. I couldn't get her into it. Why does it alway seem like the cute ones are so lethargic and the less cute ones are so much fun? Still I was pretty wasted and I didn't care too much.

I woke up the next day with the worst hangover I'd had in years. I decided to check out Tobita that afternoon. I went around 5 pm on a friday. As other posters noted, it is so surreal. It's like walking into Osaka 70 years ago. The shops look like they were built in the Showa period especially for this purpose with their wide doors and large alcoves. I got about a 30% response rate. I smiled and said Konnichiwa. I can see why they don't encourage foreigners as this place could become a major tourst spot if the word got out. The way the girls sit their posing with the lighting and the mama-san is so out of this world. Sexually however it didn't do much for me. I just wasn't into a quick session and my hangover was still pretty bad. Still I totally enjoyed just walking through there. If you want to see the heart of osaka and what the old osaka culture was really like, it's a place that can't be missed.

That night I did the mat play again. This time I asked for a girl who was newer. I forget her name now but she was really different from her picture. She had bad skin and a big c-section scar. She was very nice and even spoke some english. Told me that she sang for a punk rock band on the weekends. I had a tough time with this one because of the hangover and the skin thing rubbed me wrong (no pun intended). She worked really hard though. I began to lose interest in her on the mat but then she did this amazing rim job and bbbj and got me going again and then finished me up.

Night 4 I met an old friend and we hit some clubs. I tried to pick up some girls but they are pretty savvy about gaijin now compared to when I was in Japan. I bought some drinks for 2 girls and they literally walked away from the table the moment they got the drinks. I met some other girls who were cooler but took off after a bit.

If you speak Japanese then the sky's the limit in Osaka. I chatted with several touts and they all were open to getting me what I wanted. If you don't then I can see how it would be tougher.

So overall I had a fun time. For me personally it was tough since I had so many great times picking up girls for free back in the day and the reality that I can't do that as well anymore brought me down a bit. I also prefer GFE better and Japan is more about the quick session. The hostess thing is too fake for me. I think overall I prefer southeast asia because of the price/value. Still the mat play blew my mind and I thoroughly enjoyed it. High quality service is expected in Japan and it goes with the sex industry as well but whether it's personalized is a bit of a hit or miss. I wish I had more time to get more hits.

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[Lion]

I didn't have to find the fun the first night. It found me. It was pouring rain and I ducked under an awning where a tout came out and began speaking to me in Japanese. When he found out I could speak fairly fluently he pulled me inside where there were a bunch of laminates on a table. >>>>>>>>>>
I gave her a 2000 yen tip. I think it's important that us gaijin take good care of the women as we're already at a disadvantage. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Glad to see you had a good time.
I am curious where you were meeting the Touts. Umeda? Namba?

I discourage anyone from giving tips however. Be nice, give a present, but not cash, please. Having short-timers tipping them sets a precedent/expectation none of us long-timers want to start.

[Warmjan]

Hey, that's a great report, thanks very much. Do you happen to remember the name or the area of the mat play place? I've been looking for that in Tokyo and haven't been able to find a place that takes gaijin -- I may check it ou in Osaka.

Thanks,

WJ


I just spent 4 days in Osaka. Forums are only as good as their posts and I found the japan forum to be very useful in figuring out what was going on in Osaka and what I wanted to do. Here's my report on my 4 days.

First I should say that I lived in Osaka for 4 years and I left 15 years ago. I was in my 20's and I worked as a bartender. Needless to say I got laid whenever I wanted and I never had to pay for it. Flash forward to now and I'm a middle-aged guy and there are a lot more gaijin around. It was a somewhat bitter pill to swallow and it colored my experience. Having said that I still had a fun time.

I didn't have to find the fun the first night. It found me. It was pouring rain and I ducked under an awning where a tout came out and began speaking to me in Japanese. When he found out I could speak fairly fluently he pulled me inside where there were a bunch of laminates on a table. He first tried to sell me chinese este but I told him I just wanted japanese girls. He eventually talked me into "mat play". Maybe I'm a little different from other mongerers but I don't really like to do 20 minute sessions. I spent some time in the Philippines and really enjoyed the full GFE. I paid 23,000 yen for 70 minutes. He told me Soapland is banned in Osaka now and I think the only difference between mat play and soapland is that you don't get the full service. The place they pulled me into had a resting area with a bunch of pics. Whoever does their photoshop editing is a master. I picked a girl that looked like a 9. 10 minutes later I met her. She was chubbier than her pick, maybe a 6 but that was fine for mat play. Her name was Ai and she was very nervous about me being her first gaijin. I told her it was my first soap experience. We chatted for a bit more and then she soaped me up on the special chair. I was so turned on that I had to ask her to slow down. Then onto the bath where she gave me a bbbj. Since I paid for extra time I gave her a little back massage and kissed her neck and ears. Then onto the mat. What a trip. They use this really gooey stuff that must be edible as well. She was a master and it was amazing. Eventually she had me face up and rode me but did summata by hold me against her ass. I could tell she was turned on because her cl!t was rock hard. I finished up eventually and she washed me down and had me get back in the tub. Then we laid on the bed for 10 minutes relaxing. I gave her a 2000 yen tip. I think it's important that us gaijin take good care of the women as we're already at a disadvantage. Overall an amazing experience that I'd wanted to do for years.

Night 2 I went to Boston club after reading a posting here. It didn't do much for me. It's basically a hostess bar with some strip dancing. The fun part was that the girls were so amateur in their dancing compared to the pros in the US. I actually liked it better because of that. They gave it all they had on the stage but it was more entertaining than sexy. The main problem is that it was all you can drink and I got plowed. I stayed 2 hours and then took the wrong train and headed to away from Osaka. It took me more than an hour just to get back to where I started. After I got back I stopped by the same place and told the tout I wanted a girl in my hotel room. He charged me 23,000 yen for 90 mins. I made him promise me that she'd be cute. It took about an hour for her to arrive and I drank more which was not the best idea. A guy called me at my hotel room to tell me she was in the lobby but when I walked to the elevator, it opened and they were both there. He took my money and the clock started. She was in fact fairly cute and was dresed very well. I'd give her a 7 or 8. We chatted a bit then took a bath and proceeded to the bed. However she was a bit of a dead fish. I couldn't get her into it. Why does it alway seem like the cute ones are so lethargic and the less cute ones are so much fun? Still I was pretty wasted and I didn't care too much.

I woke up the next day with the worst hangover I'd had in years. I decided to check out Tobita that afternoon. I went around 5 pm on a friday. As other posters noted, it is so surreal. It's like walking into Osaka 70 years ago. The shops look like they were built in the Showa period especially for this purpose with their wide doors and large alcoves. I got about a 30% response rate. I smiled and said Konnichiwa. I can see why they don't encourage foreigners as this place could become a major tourst spot if the word got out. The way the girls sit their posing with the lighting and the mama-san is so out of this world. Sexually however it didn't do much for me. I just wasn't into a quick session and my hangover was still pretty bad. Still I totally enjoyed just walking through there. If you want to see the heart of osaka and what the old osaka culture was really like, it's a place that can't be missed.

That night I did the mat play again. This time I asked for a girl who was newer. I forget her name now but she was really different from her picture. She had bad skin and a big c-section scar. She was very nice and even spoke some english. Told me that she sang for a punk rock band on the weekends. I had a tough time with this one because of the hangover and the skin thing rubbed me wrong (no pun intended). She worked really hard though. I began to lose interest in her on the mat but then she did this amazing rim job and bbbj and got me going again and then finished me up.

Night 4 I met an old friend and we hit some clubs. I tried to pick up some girls but they are pretty savvy about gaijin now compared to when I was in Japan. I bought some drinks for 2 girls and they literally walked away from the table the moment they got the drinks. I met some other girls who were cooler but took off after a bit.

If you speak Japanese then the sky's the limit in Osaka. I chatted with several touts and they all were open to getting me what I wanted. If you don't then I can see how it would be tougher.

So overall I had a fun time. For me personally it was tough since I had so many great times picking up girls for free back in the day and the reality that I can't do that as well anymore brought me down a bit. I also prefer GFE better and Japan is more about the quick session. The hostess thing is too fake for me. I think overall I prefer southeast asia because of the price/value. Still the mat play blew my mind and I thoroughly enjoyed it. High quality service is expected in Japan and it goes with the sex industry as well but whether it's personalized is a bit of a hit or miss. I wish I had more time to get more hits.

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[Drewtothedew2]

Greetings-

I'm looking for a clean 'rub and tug' establishment- basically, a decent oil massage with hand service to finish. I used to enjoy 'Miyako' in Kobe. It has since closed its doors and is no longer an option.

I believe Miyako used to (or still does?) have a branch in Osaka's Minami area, and one other place as well. Anyone know of these locations, and if they are still in business?

Anywhere in the Kansai region is good.

Appreciate any advice/recommendations!

Cheers,

Drew

[Lion]

Greetings-

I'm looking for a clean 'rub and tug' establishment- basically, a decent oil massage with hand service to finish. I used to enjoy 'Miyako' in Kobe. It has since closed its doors and is no longer an option.

I believe Miyako used to (or still does?) have a branch in Osaka's Minami area, and one other place as well. Anyone know of these locations, and if they are still in business?

Anywhere in the Kansai region is good.

Appreciate any advice/recommendations!

Cheers,

Drew

Miyako's sister stores in Osaka and Amagasaki are still in business.
06-6213-8900
06-6411-3854

[Drewtothedew2]

Miyako's sister stores in Osaka and Amagasaki are still in business.
06-6213-8900

06-6411-3854Thanks, Lion. Hate to trouble you further-- you wouldn't happen to know the location of either of these establishments? If not, I'll bring out my poor Japanese and give them a call.

Cheers,

Drew

[Drewtothedew2]

Miyako's sister stores in Osaka and Amagasaki are still in business.
06-6213-8900

06-6411-3854Sorry, again. Did a little footwork myself and have now got the directions(I think).

Thanks again.

Drew

[Grisoman2000]

Lads,

Based on an old report I made the trip out Freajia. It wasn't very hard to find and if anyone knows that cluster of hotels and various sleaze about 500 meters or so south of the Barney Stone pub, then this place is in the heart of it. They have a map at the bottom of their homepage. Very useful to take as the nearby buildings make the place easy to find. There are absolutly no signs around at all! http: //bdk. Jp/osaka/hohealth/freajia/index.php

Now, my experience at Freajia was unforgetable. Or really forgetable. I went in at about 12pm and met at the door by the manager. Really seemed pleasant and not at all negative about me being a foreigner. Was told that I would have to wait 40 minutes or so before the frst of the women become available. I was explained the price system and I was told I would have to pay an extra 1000yen for browsing the pictures. Anyway, I cose Madoka, paid my 10900yen (incudes hotel) and elected to leave and come back after 30 minutes.

When I returned I didn't have to wait long. Madoka arrived and I was left shell shocked. She was huge! Not in the voluptuous rounded sense, but whale size big! I thought, what the f#)$ am I to do here? I have never been with a woman even close to her size. I have been sleeping with a very very thin woman recently, and I really wanted something a little more meaty, but this was stretching it. Anyway, as we walked to the hotel, I resolved to treating it as an "experience" and maybe we all have to do one huge woman in our lives.

In the hotel she truly tried hard. Very nice BBBJ, and would have done everything I asked for. Nice attitude and all very pleasant. However, she was really most unattractive. I finished well before my time was up and wanted to go. She really wanted me to stay till the end, as I suppose it doesn't look good for her if a punter takes of early.

Now, I have resolved to give this place another go. I will definately go in a specify exactly what I don't want the next time round. I have tried that Chinese place around the corner "tokuen" or whatever its bloody name is and I have had mixed experiences. I find the experience rather mechanical, and I hate the way the girls openly lube themselves. Not exactly a turn on.

This board has been quiet lately. Please contribute! I would be happy to meet and show anyone the exact location of Freajiia and the Chinese "tokuen" or whatever its bloody name is on the condition that you introduce me to a gaijin friendly place. Any takers?

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[Mendicant]

Osaka Fats

...snip...

Upon leaving I asked whether FS was forbidden, and she smiled and said not necessarily. Whether she'd go for it gratis or not I did not ask.Fs is available. I hit a run of about 5 visits in a row where it was offered and partaken. I left a parting 5k tip twice and paid for a 30 minute extension in another case, but money was not discussed nor was a tip expected. I usually go for the 100 minute special to start. Condom use was assumed in 3 cases, mandatory in 1, and offered in 1.- condoms used in all cases. I've noticed that a couple of the girls I saw are gone now. I don't care to put their names in this report so they won't get in trouble, but the girls all know who puts out. They'll gossip on the other girls and let you in on who does what. Just visit with one and guide the conversation on to that topic. If your girl doesn't spread her legs for you, at least you will have a leada on one who does.

Sadly, I no longer work in Osaka, and have returned to the Tokyo Metro area when I'm in country. I'll miss OSF.

[Lion]

Fs is available. I hit a run of about 5 visits in a row where it was offered and partaken. I left a parting 5k tip twice and paid for a 30 minute extension in another case, but money was not discussed nor was a tip expected. I usually go for the 100 minute special to start. Condom use was assumed in 3 cases, mandatory in 1, and offered in 1.- condoms used in all cases. I've noticed that a couple of the girls I saw are gone now. I don't care to put their names in this report so they won't get in trouble, but the girls all know who puts out. They'll gossip on the other girls and let you in on who does what. Just visit with one and guide the conversation on to that topic. If your girl doesn't spread her legs for you, at least you will have a leada on one who does.

Sadly, I no longer work in Osaka, and have returned to the Tokyo Metro area when I'm in country. I'll miss OSF.


Good info Mendicant, although I wish you (and others) would refrain from offering the extra 5,000. That leads to expectations. Better a little gift you can hand to them as a thank you for exceptional services.

I had an OSF girl tell me the FS was a possiblity after I asked her on the elevator on the way out (the BBBJ in the room had me distracted and content at the time).

[Lion]

Lads,

When I returned I didn't have to wait long. Madoka arrived and I was left shell shocked. She was huge! Not in the voluptuous rounded sense, but whale size big! I thought, what the f#)$ am I to do here? I have never been with a woman even close to her size. I have been sleeping with a very very thin woman recently, and I really wanted something a little more meaty, but this was stretching it. Anyway, as we walked to the hotel, I resolved to treating it as an "experience" and maybe we all have to do one huge woman in our lives.

In the hotel she truly tried hard. Very nice BBBJ, and would have done everything I asked for. Nice attitude and all very pleasant. However, she was really most unattractive. I finished well before my time was up and wanted to go. She really wanted me to stay till the end, as I suppose it doesn't look good for her if a punter takes of early.

Now, I have resolved to give this place another go. I will definately go in a specify exactly what I don't want the next time round. I have tried that Chinese place around the corner "tokuen" or whatever its bloody name is and I have had mixed experiences. I find the experience rather mechanical, and I hate the way the girls openly lube themselves. Not exactly a turn on.

T
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Freijia girs do try hard, but some are not all that attractive, very true. Since you chose the pict, I am surprised you got an unwanted bigger gal. I always take a close look at the measurements, and if you want slim you can tell the manager-he is there to help you out usually since they want repeat customers.

[Lion]

The Kobe shop closed, but a recent visit to the Osaka shop proved they are just as good.

Very clean, nice surroundings, with talkative girls giving good massages. Don't expect anything more than a HJ though.

10,000/60min (-1,000 with member's card).

http://www.miyako.cc/index.shtml

[SE Asia Joe]

Hi. You may all remember me as the guy who had a terrible call rate at Tobita. "Had" being the operative word here.

I went last night for the first time in a little while. My last time, I got to go with a true master - just watching him work the streets was an incredible lesson from the pros. .

Hey Azure Knight:
Just FYI - I've posted your "recommended Modus Operandi" on the China General Info thread (and Superforce subsequently reposted my post on the China Zhuhai Thread) to highlight the difference between how one should act (as per your recommendation) and the atrocious way that I've seen lotsa foreign mongers act when in china, Thailand, PI etc.
Many thanks for your insightful post.
Regards
SEAJ

[Hapaman]

My first trip to Osaka so I decided to venture to Tobita. I got lost despite the excellent directions in this forum. I managed to find the place on my fourth attempt and about 45 minutes of walking around. Went at mid-afternoon.

I've been to Hinodecho in Yokohama on numerous occasions and was sad to see it close down. I also been to Kawasaki but it's not the same.

After finally finding the place, I walked around to check things out and got about 50% call rate. Not bad. I walked the main street (the street with the clock) and found this bleached hair nice looking gal so I partook. I wasted by 10K yen. No kissing (which is not that unusual) but no touching of her nipples (itai) and when started pumping her, again itai.

I cruised around a little while longer and found this tall, long hair, very curvy girl on the same street. She said her name was Seiko. I partook and what a difference. She must have been at least 5'7" and had enhance boobs, which I found unusual in Japan. She was almost GFE. LFK, CBJ, CFS. Her long legs really turned me on.

Tobita is not quite Hidenocho but it's pretty close. Can't wait for my next trip to the Kansai area.

[Lion]

Last month I felt the need for some DH, and found a place on the first call that said OK. Free choice (theirs, not mine) was 13,000/60min. Unfortunately the 24 year old girl, although cute enough, had almost no skills and preferred to do CBJ. Finally ended up getting on top of her chest and pulled off the condom as I came on her chest. She didn't seem to be into it much, but then later she said she hoped there were more foreign customers to make things more interesting. However overall she was like a shy deer and was almost impossible to get interested in. A good example of who should not be in the business.

More recently, I tried again.

Manged to find a few hours free and did a bit of research in order to come up with about 10 websites with various pricing and offers.

Call 1-no answer
Call 2-OK, but not until two hours later
Call 3-OK, the gal I want in 20minutes (Score!)

So I wait and exactly 20min later a hot 22 year old shows up. She shows surprise, but relaxes after I greet her in decent Japanese and immediately says how cool it is and she has never had a foreigner before. Says something about tanoshimi (having fun).

She asks which course, I go for the longer 90min/18,000 since she is so hot and seems genki, and she offhandedly asks if I often order take out like this (How do you answer this question anyway?). I say occasionally, and [LIKE AN IDIOT] mention how some shops say no to foreign guys and others say OK. So this gets this young waif thinking and she says she'd better call the shop to confirm it is OK to service me. At this point I should have encouraged her not to if she wanted to get paid, but I was mute [DUMB].

OF course the shop says no, and she seemed pretty dissapointed and sorry she'd have to go. I suppose I could have tried to negotiate with the shop owner, but I didn't ask to {another mistake}.

Anyway, having only wasted 30 minutes in the hotel by that time, I figure it is worth another shot, especially since the hotel bills for a 2hr stay.

Next call (#4)-OK, but not til 4 hours later.
Next call (#5)-OK, but they want to call me on my cell. I don't like this idea, and suggest calling the hotel room. Surprisingly they go for it, and say my gal can be there in 30 min.

It actually takes 45min, but she arrives and is all smiles, friendly and very hot 91D/62/89. Turns out she is 27, but this is for the better as she is skilled and we have some things to talk about since she is into lots of hobbies and sports.

I go for the 90min/20,000 course, and am rewarded with 3 pops (BBBJ and sumata). FS might have been possible, but it wasn't necessary really. With hotel total damage was 24,000. Not cheap, but worth it in my opinion. Something nice about having enough to to be able to shower (twice), lie in bed and chat along with getting done three times.

She was so good I am tempted to go for her again, but there is always a chance the no gaijin rule might pop up if I screw up the Japanese.

By the way, when she called the shop she made no mention of the fact I was a foreigner, which is what most girls will do since they want to get paid.

[Zcorps]

Anyway, having only wasted 30 minutes in the hotel by that time, I figure it is worth another shot, especially since the hotel bills for a 2hr stay.Am I correct when I assume you're staying in a love hotel? I haven't tried a deli service quite yet, but I was thinking of trying one out. As convenient as my apartment is, I don't think I'd like them there, for obvious reasons.

[Lion]

Am I correct when I assume you're staying in a love hotel? I haven't tried a deli service quite yet, but I was thinking of trying one out. As convenient as my apartment is, I don't think I'd like them there, for obvious reasons.

Love hotels are best for atmosphere, but unless you are staying overnight in one they can be a bit boring if you get stuck waiting for an hour or more for your girl to show up.

Some guys think singles can't check into a love hotel, or can't come and go. But the truth is that if your are there overnight there is generally no problem with that. Love hotels get a huge percentage of their business from the DH industry.

Your apartment should be fine if you are single and don't care about what the neighbors think. DH girls are not going to re-visit you to blackmail you.

Business hotels are usually OK, but there are some which are strict about allowing visitors. The HD services know which ones and sometimes post a "dame" list on their website. Top end usually OK. If there is a bar or restaurant in the hotel you can probably get them into your room no problem.

[Stickmanfob]

It's been awhile since I was last staying at the Kansai Aiport Hotel. Checked the old threads and couldn't find anything other than taking a taxi to Namba. Does anyone know of anything within walking distance around there or a good DH that I can call? I would appreciate any assistance.

Thanks!

[Anonmyous]

Guys,

The recent string of DH posts has been full of useful info, but I was wondering if you could post a little more info. You've posted some great info, but could you, for instance, post the names of the DH services you successfully? I know there are a few services out there that MAY accept foreigners with good Japanese, but if you could list the names / web addresses when you find them it would be appreciated.

Thanks much.

Anon

[Anonmyous]

Preface: OK, here are a few updates and opinions that I have to share, and I'll probably tack on a few questions for the senior members at the end. I wish I had more to post, but sadly my working hours are extensive and I live far enough away from any real city that the hobby is less than convenient. That said, I'll get on with the updates.

Toukaen, a Chinese esute in Umeda has been listed as closed by previous poster some time ago. Needless to say I was really worried that my favorite haunt on Osaka had closed. The last time I was In Osaka (about two weeks ago) I stopped by to see what the case was. Anyhow, whatever had been going down there must have blown over, because I was told that they were open for business and still accepting foreigners with a passable level of Japanese.

[Anonmyous]

I stopped in Kyobashi some time ago and looked for the esute called Mangekyo. It was listed in some old (truly outdated) posts, but I RTFF and it sounded interesting so I went to check it out. As far as I can tell, the place is no longer around, but there are a goodly number of places in the building where (I suppose) it once was. Being well dressed and used to the "Suman, no gaijin" line, I went to check out a couple of those places. The first place I tried was an esute with J-girls, but I got the usual line at the door, so I went down a floor or two to a Chinese esute. It's been a while, but if I recal the name was either "Shanghai Nights" or "Rose. " I'm tempted to say it was on the 5th floor, but believe me, it's there somewhere.

Anyhow, the "mama-san" at the Chinese esute let me in and told me that they accepted foreigners (though I get the impression you have to speak some Japanese, as usual). The atmosphere was a bit gloomy, and everything was dimly lit with a wan, yellowish light. The place itself was cramped and not classy in any sense, but later I completely forgot about that. We went in and she sat behind a small desk. She then asked me, quite directly, how big my penis was. I joked that it was like a Japanese man's, she chuckled, and then I just gestured and showed her with my hands. She said she wasn't sure and asked if she could check, but I just chuckled and said, "No, really. " Anyhow, she asked me what type I liked and after I told her she looked through some pictures and found one to show me. It seemed like she didn't want to show me a girl that would later reject me on the basis of being a foreigner, but maybe she had some other inscrutable reason. It ended well though, because the picture she showed me was a tall-ish, fairly slender (but not bony) Chinese girl with good C cups (American scale, not Japanese). I said yes, we agreed on a price, I paid and she called the girl. They spoke in Chinese, but I could tell they got a good laugh out of the penis size misadventure. After she hung up she told me that it would be about 10 or 15 minutes before the girl would arrive and showed me to a waiting room (read: waiting cubicle) with some magazines and newspapers. The price, if I recall, was about $100 (10, 000 yen) for 90 min, which included a shower before and after. She brought me tea and I didn't have to wait long.

When the girl came she went straight to the room we'd be using and the mama-san led me there. I didn't notice the mama-san leave, or even really hear what she said, because I was focused on the girl. I was expecting her to be defferent from her picture, but the picture had been quite accurate (a refreshing change in the industry). Overall she was between an 8 and a 9. I would say: face. 7, body. 9, legs. 8, ass. 9, Japanese skills. 6. 5. [Yes, I actually took note of that last part. We talked quite a bit during the first 10 minutes or so of our time, and while it wasn't difficult to communicate, if I hadn't known much Japanese her strong accent would have been tough to filter out. ] Well, the mama-san did leave and we quickly stripped and went to the shower. She washed me and we chatted a bit then she gave herself a quick scrub and we went back to our room.

We took our time and enjoyed some playing around, handjob, DATY, and even a little kissing and nibbling first. She didn't want to be fingered, but I wan't about to be put off by that. Damn, she had the softest, smoothest skin I've ever felt. After a bit of play we got down to it. She covered me up and mounted me cowgirl style. She was reallty tight and it was hard not to pop while I worked into her. A few minutes later we changed to missionary, then back later, then to doggy for a while, but when I finally came it was in missionary. I came like a thunderclap and she knew it, in retrospect I'm glad the condom we were using was really damn sturdy.

After a minute or two of lying together we went back to the shower and cleaned up. We had run, quite literally, down to the last two minutes, so the shower and dressing had to be pretty quick. All in all it was a wonderful experience and, while the atmosphere was lacking, I'd love to go back again. I think it was about on par with Toukaen in Umeda, though Toukaen has a much better selection and you can see all the girls in person when you choose. If you're in Kyobashi and like Chinese girls, it's worth a try.

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[Anonmyous]

I finally decided to try Osaka Fats. I'm not usually a BBG sort of guy, but I love Japanese girls with big breasts. I perused their website a bit, found a girl I was interested in, and checked the directions. The directions I put together from the website and this forum got me there fairly well. Anyhow, I went in and the owner / manager was ridiculously busy, but not perturbed in the least to have a foreign customer. When he got off the phone he and I chatted. He showed me several laminated pictues of the girls working that day and showed me that their info was written on the backs. I found the picture of the girl from the website, Toki-chan, and asked if she was free soon. He told me I'd have to wait about 40 min, but I was seriously interested in Toki for her cute face, the fact that her info said she loved to have her nipples played with, and because she has the biggest bust of anyone on their payroll. Yes, that's right, and they were astounding. I could have drowned in them.

When she came she was bigger than her picture portrayed, but hey, that's the game I chose to play so I figured it'd at least be an interesting experience. Toki was quiet at first. Osaka Fats doesn't get many foreigners due to it's location, price, or because it doesn't do FS. Thus, I was Toki's first foreigner and I could tell she was a bit antsy. As we walked to the hotel I started up a bit of small talk and once she got a little more comfortable things were great. We went to a nice hotel, I chose a room and she paid (the fee is inc. In the price you pay). We went to our room and stripped. Then I just took a moment to appreciate her, and my situation. I had never been with a girl so. Robust, but I was curious. We went to the shower and she offered to fill the bath. I said I'd just like to shower and we strted to play around a bit. We washed, thuroughly, and then did the sanatizing mouth rinse bit (it really isn't that unpleasant, but you'd do well to take a mint or something).

After the shower we headed out and I played the innocent foreigner. "Oh, it's your first time with a foreigner? Well, this is my first time to do this too. Yesterday was my birthday, and this was mybest friend's present to me. How does this work? " I know, it's cheesy, but it put her at her ease and made the whole thing feel better overall. So we played around, kissed, then I got her off with my hand, did some DATY, and she sucked me off until I came. After a quick break and some petting she noticed that I was still hard and seemed to think that that was incredible, so petting lead to some more BBBJ, handjob, and then paizuri (titty fucking) until I came again. Once again we took a break, but this time I needed to recuperate so I played around with her so she could enjoy some attention as well. Soon after I was hard again and we ended up doing sumata (simulated intercourse) for the last 15 min or so until I came again.

By that time we were going into the last 10 minutes or so and went for a quick shower. We played and I washed her down thuroughly and massaged her a bit to work out her kinks. We had about 30 seconds to dress and leave by the time we left the shower, but she called in and said she'd be a few minutes late so that we wouldn't have to hurry quite so much. Toki was a wonderful, giggly girl with IMMENSE breasts, and the whole experience was really quite good. In the future I would gladly settle for huge breasts and a bit less about the waist, but it was truly enjoyable. Osaka Fats has (in my limited experience) good service, nice girls, and decent value. I'll deffinately be visiting again when time and my bankroll allow.

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[Anonmyous]

Well, I hope this was informative for everyone, and I'm sorry to post all of my info in bulk, but bear with it. This site is a great resource and I hope to see an increase of activity as you all go out and expand your horizons with some real, deep internationalization. Stories, advice, directions, possible TOFTTs, anything is welcome. Best of luck, everyone. Be safe and have fun!

Anon

[Anonmyous]

Hello, everyone,

After my last post about Osaka Fats I wanted to give out the directions that I compiled from other posts and the Fats website. I hope these come out well, but I may need to adjust the formatting and repost to get the Japanese font working. Anyhow, here are the directions that worked pretty well for me.

Enjoy~

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地下鉄梅田駅(西梅田駅、東梅田駅)、阪神梅田駅からの場合
If you’re coming from the subway in Umeda Station (North Umeda Station, East Umeda Station), or Hanshin Umeda Station.
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各駅から地下街を「泉の広場」方面へ歩きます。
From either station, walk in the underground shopping plaza towards “Izumi no Hiroba.”
「泉の広場」の「Ｍ６」番出口を上がったところ、すぐ右側にある「阪急東通り商店街」の中を真っ直ぐ歩きます。
Go back up to street level through exit M6 in “Izumi no Hiroba,” then you should see the “阪急東通り shopping arcade” on your right.
途中で商店街のアーケードがなくなりますがそのまま真っ直ぐ歩くと中学校が真正面にあり、突き当りになります。
You can get lost in the arcade, so go straight and there will be a middle school in front of you and the road will “T.”
その突き当りを 左へ曲がりすぐの所（５Ｍ程）に喫茶店があるのでその右側にある「ケンタッキー」というビルのドアを入り４階になります。
At the “T” intersection go left and in a short distance (5 min. at most) there will be a coffee shop and a on the right side there will be a building called “ ケンタッキー.” Go in and up to the fourth floor.

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ＪＲ大阪駅、阪急梅田駅からの場合

まず阪急梅田駅の東側にある「HEP-NAVIO」を目指します。
First, look at (point yourself at) HEP-NAVIO on the East side of Osaka Umeda station.
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「HEP-NAVIO」と道路を挟んで向かいにある「OSビル」の右側に「阪急東通り商店街」の入り口があるのでそのアーケードの中を真っ直ぐ歩きます。 途中で商店街のアーケードがなくなりますがそのまま真っ直ぐ歩くと中学校が真正面にあり、突き当りになります。
There should be a road between you an the HEP-NAVIO building, and on the right side of the “OSビル” should be the entrance to the “阪急東通り shopping arcade,” and you can get lost in the arcade, so go straight and there will be a middle school in front of you and the road will “T.”
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その突き当りを左へ曲がりすぐの所（５Ｍ程）に喫茶店があるのでその右側にある「ケンタッキー」というビルのドアを入り４階になります。
At the “T” intersection go left and in a short distance (5 min. at most) there will be a coffee shop and a on the right side there will be a building called “ ケンタッキー.” Go in and up to the fourth floor.
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もし道順などわからなくなった場合は、お気軽に０６−６３６４−０５８０までお問い合わせ下さい。
If you don’t understand the directions, please feel free to call: 06-6364-0580.

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Anon

[Azure Knight]

Well, I hope this was informative for everyone, and I'm sorry to post all of my info in bulk, but bear with it. This site is a great resource and I hope to see an increase of activity as you all go out and expand your horizons with some real, deep internationalization. Stories, advice, directions, possible TOFTTs, anything is welcome. Best of luck, everyone. Be safe and have fun!

Anon
First, thank you for your reports and efforts. It is appreciated.

I think the activity has slowed down because there's really nothing new to report. Most areas of activity, as well as the places that openly accept foreigners have been found and reviewed. If you look presentable, speak passable Japanese, and get an open-minded tencho or girl, you may gain access to some off-the-radar joint, but that would really be a personal deal. I believe we've posted plenty about how to improve your chances. I personally am not going out and finding anything new because I'm very happy with what I've got now.

[Lion]

Guys,

The recent string of DH posts has been full of useful info, but I was wondering if you could post a little more info. You've posted some great info, but could you, for instance, post the names of the DH services you successfully? I know there are a few services out there that MAY accept foreigners with good Japanese, but if you could list the names / web addresses when you find them it would be appreciated.

Thanks much.

Anon

Thanks for your recent posts, Anon. I had been considering Toki as well on account of her face. And since OF is half the price of most DH it is a great deal if you like big gals.

As for DH service listings, since they are so picky about allowing foreigners, and they are often restricted to certain areas, I am very reluctant to post any here. However I will happy to share via PM with posters who have a proven track record.

[Homer69]

Can someone who has been to Osaka Fats and Freijia check wikimapia.org and search 'osaka kentucky building' and 'freijia building' and verify if those are the correct buildings? I'm headed to Osaka next week and want to take a look.

[Lion]

Can someone who has been to Osaka Fats and Freijia check wikimapia.org and search 'osaka kentucky building' and 'freijia building' and verify if those are the correct buildings? I'm headed to Osaka next week and want to take a look.

Yeah, those are the places.
Navigating in Japan is going to be a whole lot easier in the future it seems.

[Nino]

Yeah, those are the places.
Navigating in Japan is going to be a whole lot easier in the future it seems.

Got even easier now that Google maps has photos of all the streets online. You can literally walk down a street on the computer and look around. Even my house is there.

[Scottish Male]

Staying in 1 week at the New Otani in Kobe harborland and was wondering how best to get either someone to the hotel (and cost) or head out somewhere for an incall.

All help is appreciated and if anyone needs info on the UK scene more than happy to help.

[Global Girl]

Staying in 1 week at the New Otani in Kobe harborland and was wondering how best to get either someone to the hotel (and cost) or head out somewhere for an incall.

All help is appreciated and if anyone needs info on the UK scene more than happy to help.The obvious here is to RTFF, but Asian Mystique is your best bet for an English speaking outcall. Incall shops and Tobita are probably a bit out of your league (don't mean that in a bad way, just that if you've only got one week, you're better off sticking with the easiest option rather than try to learn the ways) unless you speak Japanese.

[Nino]

The obvious here is to RTFF, but Asian Mystique is your best bet for an English speaking outcall. Incall shops and Tobita are probably a bit out of your league (don't mean that in a bad way, just that if you've only got one week, you're better off sticking with the easiest option rather than try to learn the ways) unless you speak Japanese.

Along that line, maybe you want to tell Asian Mystique to update the link to Anyablue.... right now, it leads to a "this page is expired" screen.

[Anonmyous]

I think the activity has slowed down because there's really nothing new to report. Most areas of activity, as well as the places that openly accept foreigners have been found and reviewed. If you look presentable, speak passable Japanese, and get an open-minded tencho or girl, you may gain access to some off-the-radar joint, but that would really be a personal deal. I believe we've posted plenty about how to improve your chances. I personally am not going out and finding anything new because I'm very happy with what I've got now.Azure Knight has a great point, and he has certainly contributed an amazing amount to the forums along with others like Hunter, Lion and many others. I have benefited greatly from their experiences an knowledge and I'd like to thank all of those senior members who have made this thread and this site such a great resource.

On the other hand, I really enjoy going out and finding places I haven't seen or heard about before. I RTFF, but Osaka and the surrounding areas are big enough that there are a ton of places I haven't heard of. I have come to consider it a challenge to find a shop that gets few (if any) foreign customers, get accepted, and establish a good precedent. It's a lot of fun for me, and maybe as much of a challenge as P4P can really be, but it also feels rewarding to be somewhere new and to be the guy who opens up the doors for other foreigners.

In some cultures I don't think it's a big deal to be the first caucasian or (insert ethnicity here) to be accepted into a shop, but Japan is not most cultures. While society in Japan has largely been ridden of racial prejudices and social stigmas leftover from the era of the Dowa Reforms, there are still some areas of Japanese culture where non-Japanese are discriminated against, and the "water business" (mizu-shobai) is one of those. In Japan, where many shops only cater to Japanese men between 20 and 40 years old, being a foreigner and a cultural outsider disallows you access to many establishments.

As Azure Knight said, there are a lot of things you can do to improve your chances. You can study Japanese, be polite and well dressed, and so on, but even then some shops just say no. In this culture, I feel like opening doors and setting a positive precedent in shops that have never had foreign customers benefits our entire community. The biggest reason I go out and try to fing these places is the thrill of finding a hidden treasure, but I recommend the experience for those who have a bit of free time, speak the language and know the rules of the "water business. "

It can be a lot of fun to go walkabout in a known red light district, find some previously unexplored TOFTT options, evaluate them, place some calls or just walk on in. The rejection is usually quick and painless when it happens, but I have found acceptance at several places by doing those things that Azure and the other senior members recommend, being courteous and just having the will to go out and explore.

I admit, it's a self motivated action. I love the search, the anticipation and the payoff. As far as P4P goes, my preferences run towards esutes vs places like Tobita Shinchi and Matsushima Shinchi. I have had good luck with esutes, generally think that they are a great value for the money, and are (in general, but not always) quite foreigner friendly. Thus, I have made it my goal to go out and find a new esute each month that accepts foreigners and try it out.

I really encourage others to figure out what they like best in P4P, and then to try and find just one new source. It can be really rewarding and the results of our efforts will continue to build this site and turn it into an even more comprehensive resource than it already is. So even if you've got a few good things lined up, it my yet be worth a try to go out and expand your horizons. I will be posting the results of my efforts to the forum in the hopes that others will both enjoy the benefits of them and likewise try to find and contribute one new item to this already amazing site.

My apologies for the lengthy post, but I hope you all seriously consider it. As always, my best regards to all of the members, and thanks again to those senior members who have brought us this far. Take care everyone.

Anon

[Anonmyous]

after that long post about the virtue of exploration, i'd be pretty remiss if i didn't offer any suggestions to help. here are a few things that may help you to find something new and interesting.

#1. patience. it can take some looking around, and ground pounding to find someplace if that's the way you want to do it. i personally enjoy going walkabout and seeing what i can find, but even if you know where you're going, patience is important in the endurance of rejection (or the endurance of japanese people talking to you like a simpleton, regardless of your language proficiency). if you have the desire and the patience i'm sure you'll find something, but to speed up the process you may consider a few other things.

#2. the internet. internet: (n) 1. a vast information network meant to save you time on term papers and finding sex. ok, that's a stretch, i never used the internet for my term papers. on the other hand i have found a lot of possible toftts by searching some really useful index pages. i have also eliminated several that looked good, but staunchly (but politely) opposed foreign customers by sending them e-mails. calling is, of course, better than e-mailing a shop to as if foreign customers are allowed, but for those toftts towards the bottom of my list to investigate i send out a brief, well written e-mail i have prepared in japanese. anyhow, i've digressed, so let me get back to the point. the internet has some great resources if you're willing to take a little time and wade through it. here are a two sites worth mentioning to get you started:

http://www.manzoku.or.jp/kansai/index_f.html

http://kansai.bigdesire.co.jp/top.php

#3. paper media. a long forgotten tool of a bygone era, this once popular medium of communication has since been largely replaced by the internet (see above). i highly recommend keeping your eyes open for a copy of a magazine called? which can be acquired for minimal cost at adult dvd and book stores, osaka fats, and several locations in osaka. it may also be found online (of course), at the following address:

http://www.asoviva.jp/

#4. secondhand resources. what i call "secondhand resources" are those resources that are meant for something or someone else. for instance, soapland / fuzoku information kiosks (if you don't mind going in and chatting up the japanese staff), though that isn't a good example. a better example would be the guys / gals who stand out on major streets near to red light districts with signs to guide you to a shop (usually an internet and comic cafe). those folks know the area and can help answer questions, give directions, or at least point you in the direction of someone who would know, perhaps one of the aforementioned kiosks. another good example of a "secondhand resource" is a booklet called: maru. it's a publication for women looking for employment and there are a lot of web addresses and other contact information for shops inside. i personally prefer footslogging or web surfing, but there are resources out there everywhere, even if not where you expect. for the record, maru can also be (you guessed it) found online. the web address is as follows:

www.marunavi.com/

all right, i think i should wrap this up now, but if i've forgotten anything superbly helpful, or if anyone has other resources that are useful, please post those as well. once again, i highly recommend those first two websites and, of course, rtff on isg. i hope this helps anybody who decides to go hunting for something new. as always, thanks to all the contributors and my best regards to everyone in the community. be safe, be adventurous and have fun.

anon

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[Xslikx]

The obvious here is to RTFF, but Asian Mystique is your best bet for an English speaking outcall. Incall shops and Tobita are probably a bit out of your league (don't mean that in a bad way, just that if you've only got one week, you're better off sticking with the easiest option rather than try to learn the ways) unless you speak Japanese.

I don't know what you mean about Tobita. Even when I could speak no Japanese, I could still get a nice lay in Tobita.

If you are only in Osaka a short time, it's the place to go.

I honestly have no idea why people who are in Japan briefly bother with AM. You can do the straightforward outcall in any city in the world. Japan has wacky stuff going on. Get out and take a look!

[Global Girl]

I don't know what you mean about Tobita. Even when I could speak no Japanese, I could still get a nice lay in Tobita.

If you are only in Osaka a short time, it's the place to go.

I honestly have no idea why people who are in Japan briefly bother with AM. You can do the straightforward outcall in any city in the world. Japan has wacky stuff going on. Get out and take a look!Japan is the capital of wacky stuff going on! I simply meant that if Scottish Male has only a week in Kansai, then spending it trying to find things might be a bit frustrating. Kobe isn't anywhere near Tobita anyway, I know I'd be pretty annoyed if I went all the way into Osaka and then couldn't find it and/or couldn't result there.

Maybe AK could pair up with him though and take him there? He seems to have good results there.

I have heard of a few bars in Kobe where escorts hang out, but don't know the names of any of them.

[Dreams]

I don't know what you mean about Tobita. Even when I could speak no Japanese, I could still get a nice lay in Tobita.

If you are only in Osaka a short time, it's the place to go.

I honestly have no idea why people who are in Japan briefly bother with AM. You can do the straightforward outcall in any city in the world. Japan has wacky stuff going on. Get out and take a look!

Here is the answer: If you are a 50+ non Japanese speaking gaijin on a short business trip, and what you want is a nice J-girl to play with, I really think that AM is your best choice: reasonably english speaking J-girls offering 2 hours of true FS entertainement for 35000Y.. If you can give me a better alternative for my next trip, plese do!!

[Anonmyous]

while this isn’t actually the first time i’ve gone someplace new (see my post on esutes in kyobashi, part of the osaka updates), this is the first time since i put up those posts about "exploration and acceptance. " in retrospect, i realized that those posts may have made me sound like i was on a standing soapbox, and i’m sorry about that.

anyhow, this was the first time i went out with the express purpose of finding someplace new. i realized taht there are a lot of p4p opportunities rep001tered around various regions of osaka, but the ones we hear about are tobita shinchi, matsushima shinchi, osaka dh & hh services (usually in umeda) and various services in umeda and shinsaibashi. occasional mention has been made of other areas, but we generally focus on those areas which we know to be the highest concentration of action.

with that in mind i decided to pick a major area that gets a lot of foot traffic and walk from there to the nearest major station. i started by taking the osaka subway to ebisucho station in the heart of den den town. the area is famous for electronics, otaku goods, maid cafes, porn, and so on. it gets huge amounts of foot traffic and is within walking distance of a major station or two. from the station in den den town i started walking towards nipponbashi station (which seemed like a good choice, since i know that there is relatively unexplored p4p in the nipponbashi station area.

as i walked i was bombarded by stimuli. book stores, electronics stores, cafes, anime shops, porn outlets, and so on all had their hawkers outside or their doors open. the streets were busy but as i walked, and walked, and walked the crowd began to thin, the shops became less dense, and i hadn’t yet seen anything. i kept walking on towards nipponbashi station (a bit of a hike from ebisucho station), and i came to doubt i’d find anything after a while. it was about 10 minutes walk before i arrived at nipponbashi that i found something.

on a side street was a cluster of signs, you know the sort, usually they advertise hostess cafes and such, but i thought that after all that effort i had better go and have a look. i was rewarded to find that there was a chinese esute nearby. from there it didn’t take long to find the place, but it didn’t look like much from the outside (though they never do). i found the sign with a phone number out front and called to ask if japanese-speaking foreigners were allowed. they were surprised to say the least, but after a brief chat they were satisfied that i spoke fair japanese and that i wasn’t a trouble maker (i had been fairly polite). they invited me to come in, and i was about to accept, but having been encouraged by this small success, decided to keep looking a bit more first. i told the man on the phone that i may be by later in the week and then wandered on.

after about five more minutes of walking toward nipponbashi station (it was only about 8-10 minutes away on the main road) i spotted another cluster of signs. once again i went to investigate and low and behold they were (all three of them) p4p places. there were two esutes and on place that i thought may have been a japanese fashion-health sort of establishment, though the prices looked fairly steep. well, my interest was running toward the other two places anyhow, so i called up both of them with my most polite japanese and asked the big question. the first esute, shanhai kaori, quickly accepted the idea and said that as long as i could speak japanese it was no problem, though they did ask where i was from and implied that, had they disliked the answer, i would have been denied service. i was told that american was just fine and my japanese was good so i should come by soon. i thanked the manager, an older woman, and called the other place.

the second esute was much more hesitant and i could hear some muffled conversation as two or three people conversed about it in the brief pauses in our talk. the woman who had answered also asked me, after one such pause, where i was from. i said that i was american and she paused once again to discuss it with someone. it couldn’t have been much longer of a conversation than the last, but they really seemed to be debating turning me away and, consequently, it really felt like i got the third degree. in the end she said it was acceptable and asked me when i would come. i said i wasn’t sure, but either later that evening or the next week. after that i politely but quickly ended the call before she could protest the idea of not coming immediately.

after some contemplation i decided to go into shanhai kaori, and i ended up being quite pleased by the service, but that’s enough information for a separate post. the most important thing was that i found, in the course of one afternoon and evening, three previously unknown esutes that were all willing to accept foreigners. i did inquire at one of them if they ever had foreign clients, and the answer was that, while they had had one or two, but they had certainly never had a caucasian customer (or any westerner it seemed). they were a little curious about me, but not really apprehensive (due, i must imaging, to my polite approach). i did my best to leave a good impression and they seemed pleased that i had come. overall, it was a great time. i enjoyed the hunt for something new, and then there was some satisfaction in knowing that i was the first westerner to go through there. i look forward to going back sometime, but not until i find and try a few new places.

anonmyous

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[Anonmyous]

As my last post explained, in my explorations I found a nice esute in Nipponbashi called: Shanhai Kaori. After I made the find I called them up and a late middle aged woman (from here on referred to as the manager) answered the phone. She was nice enough and seemed pleased to get business. Shortly after the discussion described in my last post I went up the the 4th floor and went into the shop. As far as first impression go it was a bit surprising.

The entryway and waiting room were, as usual, small and dimly lit. This is not to say unpleasant, and this wasn’t the surprising part. What surprised me was an almost surreal quiet that permeated the shop. I looked around, but there was nobody in the entryway, nobody at the desk or relaxing in the waiting room, and there was no noise. None. I waited a second to see if somebody would come out, make a noise, breath, or even move from a shadowy corner to assassinate me (yeah, so my imagination got a bit carried away, but what of it? ). Eventually I called out, "sumimasen, " but there was no response. A moment later I repeated it, then a third time substantially louder. It holds true what they say about the third time, or so it would seem since the manager came out and struck up a conversation with me.

She was initially surprised to see a caucasian and then I could see it in her eyes when she remembered the conversation we’d had earlier. She nodded her head a time or two and then asked me to sit on the couch and fetched a "course menu" from her desk. She asked me what I’d like, and in my mind I’d been looking for something quick, fun, FS and about 10, 000 yen. So, I pointed out a 40 min course for 8000 yen. She asked me if I wanted a hand-job with my massage, and I told her that I was looking for more than that. Well, she proceeded to tell me that the service you get is different at each level, not just the time. A hand-job at 40 min, fellatio at the next level (50 or 60 minutes), and full service at the 60 (or was it 70? ) minute course. She skirted around telling me what exactly "all service" was until I got fairly direct, but we were indeed talking about the same thing. Unfortunately that course was listed as 18000 yen, and not what I was looking to spend. There was a note on the menu about 4000 yen off of that course and longer courses, a "time service option" of some sort, but I thought I’d ask about a shorter FS course.

She offered to give me the 50 (or was it 60? ) minute course with FS, but only half of the time. I balked at that. One of the big reasons I go to esutes is to be able to take my time. I feel like the 15 to 30 minutes allowed at Tobita aren’t quite enough for me. Following this, I told her that I would like more time but that I was supposed to meet some friends for a nomikai (drinking party) and said that maybe I’d be able to come back afterwards for a longer course. She balked at that. So she asked me about my friends, when we’d meet and how many people were going. I told her we’d meet in about 40 minutes and that three of my friends would be meeting me. She looked as if she was considering something carefully at that point, then asked me if we were all American, using the same tone she’d used on the phone initially. I could see where this was going, but then she decided that if she’d already let me in why not a few friends. She consequently asked me to bring all of my friends after the party and said she’d give us all a good time. I told her that my friends weren’t really into that, but that I’d be willing to come back later.

Seeming to believe that I would not, a distinct possibility, she said that if I could be late I could do the time service 70 minute course now, and it’d only cost 14000 yen (a bit high for an esute, but it was a 70 minute course). I thought fr a second and stood up as if to leave and told her that I probably should go. Seeing that she said she’d knock off another 1000 yen, and I also realized that I hadn’t seen what her girl (s) looked like yet. I said that was very nice, and could I see pictures of the girls (no fee for this). She showed me pictures of three girls, all of them at least 8s if you like Chinese women. None of them were exceptionally busty or flat, but all seemed quite pretty. I chose one and told her that I’d call my friends and explain that I’d be late. Then, while I faked sending an e-mail, she flipped a switch I hadn’t seen before. The lights came up about 50%, some nice, soft Chinese music started playing in the background and the place as a whole seemed a lot more hospitable. She went off to get me some tea, and I waited. About two minutes later she came back and offered me a cool glass and said that I could follow her.

We walked out of the waiting room and down a short corridor with carrels on either side. Then she stopped at one and pulled aside the curtain over the door and showed me the girl. I was stunned. She was adorable with her two tone hair and her soft round face. Her skin tone was light and smooth as butter. She smiled a little, seemed a bit nervous. I took a mental note to move slow and put her at her ease. The manager disappeared quickly and inconspicuously, but placed a small plastic tray on top of the door frame. The girl took the tray and palmed its contents, condoms I figured (though it looked like just 1, and given my 70 minutes I wondered.) but I didn’t ask as she tucked whatever it was out of sight at the bedside. She asked me to strip and I did, and she immediately took note of my foreignness. My curly hair, beard, and hairy chest stood out to her right away and I asked her if she thought it was bad. "No, " she said, "it’s interesting. " She ran her fingers over me for a while, then we both finished undressing and went to the shower.

Unlike most esutes, this one had a shower in each room. It was probably an unnecessary convenience, but it did feel a bit more intimate this way. The actual shower, however, was a bit perfunctory, but I decided not to jump all over her. I used it as a good chance to chat a bit and drop a few complements. By the time we got out of the shower she had a big smile on her face and she was much more comfortable. She seemed enthusiastic to get to business. She had me lay down and started an amazing BBBJ that had me moaning and whispering her name. After a while she asked me about changing, and she thought she’d get into missionary, but I dropped down to do the DATY. I kissed her legs from knees to thighs while running my hands up and down her, she was more than ready when I actually started. After a bit of DATY I moved on to fingering her and doing some internal stimulation while using the other hand to pet her and kissing her all over. Oh, her body was fantastic and I was loving it. She was thrilled to get some attention from a customer, she later confessed, since most men just come in and want to get right down to it for their own pleasure.

By the time we got around to missionary she was literally begging for it (a gratifying feeling). I slid it into her and was amazed at how good it felt and how snug she was even after all the tonguing and fingering. We went to it with me on top, then I laid her on her side and spooned her for a while. After that she moved to the top and we clung to each other while grinding together. It wasn’t until after doggy and some laying her on her back with her knees over my shoulders that I came, and by the end we were both exhausted.

We laid there together for a while, then chatted in the shower which was a bit more relaxed and comfortable than before. We still had a few minutes left when we were done and we laid around together before dressing and I asked her to tell me about her hometown in China. After a great conversation we both regretted having to go our separate ways, but she and the manager walked me out and thanked me for having come by. I told them that it had been wonderful and that I’d be back someday.

On the whole it was an amazing experience and I recommend this place, but even more than that, I recommend going out and having a similarly thrilling experience somewhere new and then sharing your tales with the rest of us. I do intend to go back again, and maybe even see the same girl again (so you’ll forgive me, I’m sure, if I leave out her name). I hope you enjoyed the story. I’ll be posting about the other new places I’ve found and explored soon enough. As always, have fun and be safe.

Anonmyous

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[Scottish Male]

If you have, is BBBJ accepted as well as kissing?

Thanks

JB

[Xslikx]

Hey Anonmyous,

It's cool that you're getting out and exploring, but I think you will eventually find that the majority of Chinese places will accept you if you can speak some Japanese. I'm sure your Japanese is better than mine, but I have found that I'm rarely turned down at a Chinese place. There are actually a ton of Chinese places, clustered around every major station in the city.

[Azure Knight]

Here is the answer: If you are a 50+ non Japanese speaking gaijin on a short business trip, and what you want is a nice J-girl to play with, I really think that AM is your best choice: reasonably english speaking J-girls offering 2 hours of true FS entertainement for 35000Y.. If you can give me a better alternative for my next trip, plese do!!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but AM currently only has one girl available for the Kansai region, right? And to date I don't think there are any reports on her here. If you want any of the other AM girls, its going to get way more expensive. You would actually save money going down to Tokyo and ordering from there.

Though if you are willing to blow that much cash, I do recommend Manami. And if you do bring here down here, let me know so perhaps I can meet up with her before she goes back!

I said this in the Tokyo thread, but I'm not sure why AM doesn't have more of an operation here in Kansai. Seems like they could do pretty well for themselves.

[Scottish Male]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but AM currently only has one girl available for the Kansai region, right? And to date I don't think there are any reports on her here. If you want any of the other AM girls, its going to get way more expensive. You would actually save money going down to Tokyo and ordering from there.

Though if you are willing to blow that much cash, I do recommend Manami. And if you do bring here down here, let me know so perhaps I can meet up with her before she goes back!

I said this in the Tokyo thread, but I'm not sure why AM doesn't have more of an operation here in Kansai. Seems like they could do pretty well for themselves.AK are you in the Kobe area? could you help me get to sample some Japanese babes?

Thanks

[Lion]

If you have, is BBBJ accepted as well as kissing?

Thanks

JB

Not sure why you everyone is telling you to try AM if you are in Kobe/Osaka. They only have one girl in Kansai, and she isn't the cutest in my book.

A 20 minute train ride gets you to Umeda/Osaka, where proen places like Freijia, Osaka Fats and a number of Chinese este are.

Kobe is a nearly impossible town to succeed in if you don't speak the language (and even if you do DH is the only likely option).

That said, try walking around the fukuhara (soapland) area just NW of Kobe station. Try every shop and who knows?

Also try wandering the allies of Sannomiya (north side of JR station about 2-4 blocks up hill). After 9pm the Chinese este girls come out.

Finally, just cold call every DH on this list (120 to try)

http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/f06_02/4-f06_02_01.html

Or KDH (Koreans who do FS):
http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/f06_02/17.html

-your hotel is well known and you MIGHT get lucky and find a tout who knows enough English to land you a girl. Also search Inakajin's old posts for how to order delivery in Japanese.

[Azure Knight]

Following this, I told her that I would like more time but that I was supposed to meet some friends for a nomikai (drinking party) and said that maybe I’d be able to come back afterwards for a longer course. She balked at that. So she asked me about my friends, when we’d meet and how many people were going. I told her we’d meet in about 40 minutes and that three of my friends would be meeting me. She looked as if she was considering something carefully at that point, then asked me if we were all American, using the same tone she’d used on the phone initially. I could see where this was going, but then she decided that if she’d already let me in why not a few friends. She consequently asked me to bring all of my friends after the party and said she’d give us all a good time. I told her that my friends weren’t really into that, but that I’d be willing to come back later.
First off, thanks again for another great report and your efforts! It's good to see someone else getting out there and trying out new things rather than relying on information to be spoon-fed to them.

I just wanted to comment on the above. Usually, its a bad idea to monger in Japan in groups. Going alone is the best, and any number you add past that just makes it proportionally worse. The reason being is that we foreigners tend to attract a lot of attention, especially in groups, and these places survive by flying under the radar. Especially for Chinese este, if the girl is Chinese and the guy is foreign, then the Japanese police will have no reason to look the other way. As my tencho friend once explained to me - "The police attitude is - if neither the girl or guy are Japanese, why are you doing this in Japan? Go back to your homeland and do it there."

So to all reading, going with friends or in any sort of group is usually not a great idea.

[Scottish Male]

Not sure why you everyone is telling you to try AM if you are in Kobe/Osaka. They only have one girl in Kansai, and she isn't the cutest in my book.

A 20 minute train ride gets you to Umeda/Osaka, where proen places like Freijia, Osaka Fats and a number of Chinese este are.

Kobe is a nearly impossible town to succeed in if you don't speak the language (and even if you do DH is the only likely option).

That said, try walking around the fukuhara (soapland) area just NW of Kobe station. Try every shop and who knows?

Also try wandering the allies of Sannomiya (north side of JR station about 2-4 blocks up hill). After 9pm the Chinese este girls come out.

Finally, just cold call every DH on this list (120 to try)

http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/f06_02/4-f06_02_01.html

Or KDH (Koreans who do FS):
http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/f06_02/17.html

-your hotel is well known and you MIGHT get lucky and find a tout who knows enough English to land you a girl. Also search Inakajin's old posts for how to order delivery in Japanese.Lion many thanks sir !

Does the 3 establishments you mentioned above speak english?

Thanks

[Lion]

Lion many thanks sir !

Does the 3 establishments you mentioned above speak english?

Thanks
Fats does, Freijia a little maybe. Others you'll just have to get lucky.

[Homer69]

I was in Osaka yesterday and went to this place in Namba:
http://www.kankokuesute.com/hime-osaka/index_pc.php
Chinese esute, FS, foreigner-friendly, basic Japanese language skills required.

It's not difficult to find these places if you are willing to do some legwork and can stand some rejection.


Hey Anonmyous,

It's cool that you're getting out and exploring, but I think you will eventually find that the majority of Chinese places will accept you if you can speak some Japanese. I'm sure your Japanese is better than mine, but I have found that I'm rarely turned down at a Chinese place. There are actually a ton of Chinese places, clustered around every major station in the city.

[Zcorps]

So I hit up Tobita yesterday, great experience I'll be back once I move in to Osaka. I thought I'd share my experiences in case it would help anyone.

Me and a friend decided to hit up Tobita. He's a bit young in terms of mongering age. He's only 21, and quite frankly I generally don't let anyone under the age of 30 accompany me. There's a variety of reasons for this, but he's a bit of an exception. Suffice it to say that he has experience working in America's "Service" industry as a booker/"papa-san".

In any case, we had no trouble finding the place thanks to directions on this board and the map on Nationwide SUKEBE. It also doesn't hurt that we have GPS on our phones. Regardless, we both speak Japanese, so as soon as we found the place we split up. We got there roughly 5:00pm. It was a bit empty, there wasn't a lot of people, but there was a good number of girls to choose from. I noticed a group of Highschool students wandering about, they seemed to be dwindling in numbers as time passed by though. I seemed to be doing well for myself, roughly 60% call rate. My friend on the other hand (This is why I mentioned him) only had two stores that didn't call after him, and that's probably because he passed by at an odd angle and/or too fast. Hell, I remember seeing a mama-san practically begging him to go in.

If you're curious, we're both mixed. Half white half asian. Although I am dressed in more western attire, whereas he's dressed in clothing that's a more Japanese and more appropriate for his age.

In any case, I eventually settled on a cutie. I forgot her name and the name of the store, but she was wearing knee high socks. The mama-san waved me in and I obliged her. I chose the 30 minute course at 21, 000 yen. The girl sits me down, gives me some ice tea and snacks. Afterwards we get right to buisness. She starts off with a BBBJ, which btw was one of the best I've had in a while. Then she slips on the raincoat. She starts off CG and we move to MISH. About 5 minutes in, I ask if she has a bigger condom as the one she has is a bit small. 5 more minutes in, and I ask if I can use one of my condom since the one she tossed in wasn't good either. She obliges and we get back to it. SHe allows kissing, it was halfway inbetween lfk/dfk. It's a good thing I chose the 30 minutes because I came right before the bell went off.

Overall a great experience, I'll definitely be back. Others on this board are right though, you need minimal Japanese. I'd say the only thing you really need is to learn how to say how much time you want in Japanese.

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[Lion]

I was in Osaka yesterday and went to this place in Namba:
http://www.kankokuesute.com/hime-osaka/index_pc.php
Chinese esute, FS, foreigner-friendly, basic Japanese language skills required.

It's not difficult to find these places if you are willing to do some legwork and can stand some rejection.


I agree they are around. Hopefully this one doesn't get overwhelmed like Tokuen and start rejecting us!

Can you comment on # girls/picts on website/costs?
Thanks

[Homer69]

I went on a weekday afternoon so there was only one girl available. 12K for FS. Her BBBJ skills were pretty bad and she kept spitting out to a tissue after sucking for a few seconds which was a little annoying but I'm not complaining. Her Japanese skill was nil and she's from Shanghai. The tencho was Japanese, though. Her FS skill was not very active but again, I'm not complaining. She was very insecure and asked me (in mostly Chinese and through hand signals) if I thought she was OK. I politely said it was very good (in Japanese) and she seemed to understand. I posted this on here because I don't plan to go back. I don't like Chinese places in general but I have little choice and I'm not going to keep this one to myself since I live in the Tokyo area when I'm in Japan and I live in the southwest US when I'm in the US.

How did I find it? Pretty easy. Just walked around and looked for "esute" (in kana) signs out on the street. Poke your head in and ask if it's OK and most of the time, if it's a Chinese place and you can show reasonable Japanese skills you are in.

I know why these places start rejecting us. It's assholes who think they can pay their money and then treat the ladies like *****s and the tencho like a lowlife. I've talked to a few tencho about this. Those of us with half a brain know you have to treat everyone in this business with the utmost respect and dignity, regardless of how bad you think you were served and to do it with a smile on your face, even if you were ripped off cold.

I have a few Chinese places in Tokyo that I keep to myself and I've been going there on and off for years. They are more difficult to find in Tokyo because they are spread out all over the place. Osaka is a little easier in my opinion.

Too many assholes out there who don't adhere to this mindset, though.


I agree they are around. Hopefully this one doesn't get overwhelmed like Tokuen and start rejecting us!

Can you comment on # girls/picts on website/costs?
Thanks

[Azure Knight]

If there's any Chinese or Korean places in Kyoto, I have no idea where they are. I looked on foot and on the web and have come up with nothing. It looks like the best option for people in Kyoto is just to catch the train to Osaka.

[Azure Knight]

If nothing else I'm stubborn. I did more searching and found a Korean delivery health. Its based in Osaka but they're willing to send all their girls to Kyoto. I should probably mention here that I'm not going to give any specifics about the place, because the mamasan I talked to over the phone seemed to have to deliberate for a while before giving me the OK, and had I not been speaking fluent Japanese with her I get the feeling she would have turned me away. If you can speak enough Japanese to get by on phone conversations then you can probably find this place on the internet same as I did.

Also, its not particularly a place I'd recommend, so I'm not.

I picked a girl from the website, Akira. I tried to make reservations for her in advance, but the shop insisted I be in the love hotel beforehand. So I went, got a room, and called them back. After confirming that I was in the room, she said she'd send out Akira. She said it would take 30 minutes, but I know that the trip from Osaka to Kyoto takes longer than that. I was hoping the mamasan would have had the good sense to send out Akira beforehand, but apparently she did not - I had to wait in the love hotel for 70-80 minutes before she showed up. I entertained myself with the free porn channels - something I'd come to regret later.

Akira finally shows up. I don't know if I can call it a bait and switch, but looking back on the photos on the website that sure doesn't look like her. It actually wasn't a problem, as the real girl was actually not bad at all. Cute face, nice figure, and huge natural tits. They make em good in Korea.

She sits and we talk for a bit. Her Japanese is intermediate level at best, so I have to force myself to only use words and phrases she'll understand. She offers to draw up a bath for me., and does so. While waiting, she smokes a cig or two. When the bath water filled up, she prompted me to get undressed and get inside. I invited her to the shower as well, but she said I should go first. I noticed that this girl was either nervous, shy, or both.

I got into the shower first, and Akira came later. She'd taken off her clothes but was covering those magnificent breasts with her arms. She did wash me but it wasn't anything special, nor was it bad. I offered to wash her, but she declined. I got into the bathtub while she washed herself. I asked if she wanted to get into the bathtub as well, but she also declined that. I got out of the bathroom first and Akira followed a few minutes later.

I sat on the bed, but Akira took a seat and smoked another cig. Okay I guess. She eventually joined me on the bed and made sure to turn off all the lights. Okay, really nervous/shy. I asked her if she was shy and she just said "I'm okay." She takes off my towel, and hers eventually, and gets started. Using those big, nice, natural tits she gives me a good rubdown with them before a BBBJ. Technique was just okay. It didn't take very long before she put on a condom and said "shall we put it in?" I love FS that I don't have to ask for. She slapped on some lube and almost started to try to force it in. I stopped her and offered to DATY. She seemed sort of confused/confounded by this, but didn't fight the idea. I started to go to work, and she tried to stop me a few times, but I shook her off. She eventually did get me to stop just as it looked like she was starting to really enjoy it. Back to FS then.

At first she tried to again cover those great breasts with her arms. I had to keep pulling her arms away. Eventually, she did let her arms go, and even wrapped them around me! It looked like she was finally starting to get into it. Unfortunately, I was reaching my limit - I'd built myself up too much from watching the hotel porn. I went ahead and popped, figuring I still had time. Akira confirms that we still have time but says that that's all for playing around. "Once is all I can do." She says. I think she said something about wanting to do more but it not being included in the course or something. Before I knew it she was back in the shower. After she came out I followed suit.

A little bit more conversation, but it was clear I wasn't getting anything more for my time. I went ahead and ended the session. I did pop and she is a very busty and very cute/sexy Korean girl, but I was disappointed that the time ended so soon. GFE was also non-existant. However, I am going to meet Akira again sometime. Which brings me to the whole point of this report (I know I'm long winded!). Some GFE isn't automatic - it has to be developed. My favorite girl in Tobita now, when I first started with her the GFE was also pretty poor. I went back to her because...well...she's ridiculously hot. I kept going back and now the GFE is 100% fantastic. I see potential with Akira. If I can get her to open up it could be amazing. I'm willing to take the chance, and hopefully she doesn't bankrupt me in the process!

So my advice is, as much fun as it is to butterfly and experience new girls, sometimes its good to stick with one and let things develop, especially if good GFE is important to you. If I get any good results from Akira I'll post them up.

[Lion]

I picked a girl from the website, Akira. ..Akira finally shows up. I don't know if I can call it a bait and switch, but looking back on the photos on the website that sure doesn't look like her. It actually wasn't a problem, as the real girl was actually not bad at all. Cute face, nice figure, and huge natural tits. They make em good in Korea.

A little bit more conversation, but it was clear I wasn't getting anything more for my time. I went ahead and ended the session. I did pop and she is a very busty and very cute/sexy Korean girl, but I was disappointed that the time ended so soon. GFE was also non-existant.

I've had KDH for 100min and that was 2 shots. Also for 80min which ended at 45 when I popped and learned there wouldn't be any more coming my way. When I showed my dissapointment the girl seemed genuninely hurt, but she just suggested an extension (at a high rate). It would be nice if they posted the complete service ahead of time, but most don't.

KDH girls can be real pros, but a lot seem to be here short time and not really sure what they are doing. Most are pretty good looking though.

[Zcorps]

While we're on the subject of KDH, can you guys recommend any love hotels in Osaka which don't have doors that lock until you leave (where you have to dial the front desk to get the girl in) AND more importantly doesn't block your cell signal.

During my trip to Osaka I had entered a hotel listed on a KDH site (Hotel Puppy. It seemed to block my cell signal (softbank here) so I had to dial the place from the hotel room, suffice to say it didn't pan out too well and I wasted some money on a hotel room. Afterwards I wandered into the hotels in that area, most of them seemed to kill my signal.

A door that doesn't auto lock would be nice too. I hate being trapped in a room like that. I'm going to be moving to Osaka in the near future so it wouldn't hurt to find a few places ahead of time.

[Lion]

While we're on the subject of KDH, can you guys recommend any love hotels in Osaka which don't have doors that lock until you leave (where you have to dial the front desk to get the girl in) AND more importantly doesn't block your cell signal.

During my trip to Osaka I had entered a hotel listed on a KDH site (Hotel Puppy. It seemed to block my cell signal (softbank here) so I had to dial the place from the hotel room, suffice to say it didn't pan out too well and I wasted some money on a hotel room. Afterwards I wandered into the hotels in that area, most of them seemed to kill my signal.

A door that doesn't auto lock would be nice too. I hate being trapped in a room like that. I'm going to be moving to Osaka in the near future so it wouldn't hurt to find a few places ahead of time.

Not sure why dialing from the hotel room is any more difficult than from a cell. I usually call via the room phone as I don't want my cell number in the DH system.

The locking system is a pain, but all these places are fine with girls being delivered, so no real barrier I think.

[Zcorps]

Not sure why dialing from the hotel room is any more difficult than from a cell. I usually call via the room phone as I don't want my cell number in the DH system.I suppose there's not much more of a difference, but I much prefer to use my cell phone. Whenever I call in for a girl, I'm always nervous and pacing around helps me calm down. However if there is no way around it, I suppose I could get used to using hotel phones.

[Kiami]

Hi everybody,

This is my first post around here and I wanted to thank you all for the valuable informations.

With those advices, I could easily score in Tobita plus some hituzuma or Chinese esute in Osaka but now, I would like to try something different like soapland.

Since it looks like those places are usually dedicated to Japanese customers only, I started looking without so much hope but after a few search on the web, I finally found one with the following magic words in their 'event section': Foreigner customers can play too. (in japanese, so I imagine some langage skills is needed / URL in the attached picture)

Of course, I'm planning to go there as soon as I have some free time, but if anyone is interrested, don't hesitate to check the place and let everybody know about the experience.

[Stew2]

Hey Kiama, good find... Wedding Bell looks good - rare to find a gaijin friendly soapland at a reasonable price (assuming their regular prices apply... not always a good assumption, though). Did you notice that a few of the girls have movies on their profile pages... nothing too risque, but fun. Wish I was in Kobe right now to TOFTT!


Hi everybody,

This is my first post around here and I wanted to thank you all for the valuable informations.

With those advices, I could easily score in Tobita plus some hituzuma or Chinese esute in Osaka but now, I would like to try something different like soapland.

Since it looks like those places are usually dedicated to Japanese customers only, I started looking without so much hope but after a few search on the web, I finally found one with the following magic words in their 'event section': Foreigner customers can play too. (in japanese, so I imagine some langage skills is needed / URL in the attached picture)

Of course, I'm planning to go there as soon as I have some free time, but if anyone is interrested, don't hesitate to check the place and let everybody know about the experience.

[Lion]

Well done! Now we just need someone to actually go there and find out how much the Foreigners "tax" is and how many cute girls are on the OK list. The one place I went years back said it'd be an extra 5,000, so I declined.


Hi everybody,

This is my first post around here and I wanted to thank you all for the valuable informations.

With those advices, I could easily score in Tobita plus some hituzuma or Chinese esute in Osaka but now, I would like to try something different like soapland.

Since it looks like those places are usually dedicated to Japanese customers only, I started looking without so much hope but after a few search on the web, I finally found one with the following magic words in their 'event section': Foreigner customers can play too. (in japanese, so I imagine some langage skills is needed / URL in the attached picture)

Of course, I'm planning to go there as soon as I have some free time, but if anyone is interrested, don't hesitate to check the place and let everybody know about the experience.

[Zcorps]

Well, I went to Tobita again and I had a great time with a girl named Ako, she gave me a card and asked me to come back. This is a short report, but I'm not writing this report because I want to share information on her. We all know what Tobita has to offer so I probably don't need to share much. Rather, I want to share two experiences and some thoughts on those experiences.

Firstly, whilst wandering through Tobita I walked down a street with the older ladies. In this particular block there was one Tobita shop. Then I passed by another shop, possibly a restaraunt of some type, at this shop an older grandma type of lady yelled to me "Ko no hen nai yarou!" For those that don't speak Japanese, this literally means "There are none in this area, bastard!" I thought this might have been because I was a gaijin, but I then heard her yell something similar to a Japanese male who must have been in his mid 20's.

I remember reading a post in the Osaka forum where someone said "The people in the area appreciate Tobita" or something to that effect. Whether or not this is true, us mongers should keep in mind that not everyone appreciates us. I'm not going to tell anyone to stop going, or change the way they act when they go to tobita just because of this incident. I just thought I'd share it.

The second thing I wanted to share is an incident with a fellow monger. I don't know if he posts on these forums, but I thought I'd share this anyways. I was in Tobita wandering around, and I noticed a male, in his late 30's early 40's. He was white. His appearance was sloppy. He was following my route probably 4 to 5 meters behind me. No doubt just coincidence. I'd like to point out thought that I've been getter a higher and higher call rate every time I got there, it's gotten to the point where almost every mama-san calls out to me. I'm going to attribute it to the fact that I'm in a "salaryman" uniform when I go. I work close enough that I can hit that place up at lunch if I take a car.

In any case, me and him were walking down the streets of Tobita. The mama-sans were waving me in, I noticed very few people were calling him in though. Sometime during this, he approached a girl and they must have rejected him because I heard him arguing in English a bit. This happened one more time while I was within earshot, then he must have been taken in somewhere because he disappeared.

The reason I brought this up is because I'm sure he was rejected not because of his race, but because of how he presented himself. The man clearly doesn't take care of his appearance, he was, for lack of a better word, an eyesore. He wore a shirt that didn't seem to fit properly, and shorts that clashed with his shirt. His hair was a mess, and I'd keep going, but that was all I noticed.

Now, I know many of us monger don't really want to take care of our appearance, I know I hate it. However, maybe some of you should consider making your self more presentable. You don't need to do a complete makeover, but wear clothes that make you seem like a respectable individual. This is Japan, and presentation is a big part of life here. I'm not advocating that all of you dress as sharp as possible (though that might be a good thing in general) but if some of you are getting low call rates at tobita, maybe you should try re-working your appearance. This might be a good idea for mongering in Japan in general.

Oh, and don't wear a backpack, that screams tourist. Use a messenger bag.

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[Sudsy]

...an older grandma type of lady yelled to me "Ko no hen nai yarou!" For those that don't speak Japanese, this literally means "There are none in this area, bastard!" I thought this might have been because I was a gaijin, but I then heard her yell something similar to a Japanese male who must have been in his mid 20's. .

"Yarou" is Kansai dialect for "darou" casual version of the more polite "desho" - what she was shouting was more akin to "Ain't none around here!". Rest easy, she was just having a giggle.

[Zcorps]

"Yarou" is Kansai dialect for "darou" casual version of the more polite "desho" - what she was shouting was more akin to "Ain't none around here!". Rest easy, she was just having a giggle.Ohhhh, I only know standard, so Kansai dialect is still throwing me off. Although I must say Osaka-ben is somehow attractive and I can't get enough of the girls who have strong accents.

[Kiami]

Well done! Now we just need someone to actually go there and find out how much the Foreigners "tax" is and how many cute girls are on the OK list. The one place I went years back said it'd be an extra 5,000, so I declined.I don't know about this ''foreigner taxe'' but I imagine it would be anyway better to go there on day-time, when they don't have too many customers.

[FunInKyoto69]

Has anyone tried using "Hotel Health"?

[Lion]

I don't know about this ''foreigner taxe'' but I imagine it would be anyway better to go there on day-time, when they don't have too many customers.

The one time I tried was in the afternoon, when things were dead. Still they wanted extra...probably a way to validate selling to a foreigner against the association rules.

Hotel Healths are also pretty strick about not serving foreigners in Kobe, but in Osaka you'll have better luck.

Delivery Healths are much easier if your Japanese is good.

[Azure Knight]

As I'm not familiar with hotels in Osaka (live here), hopefully someone can answer this.

Do you think one could pull off a swinger party in a 4-5 star Osaka hotel? I'm not sure of the numbers but I'm thinking somewhere in the neighborhood of 4 couples. Would hotel management step in and say something, or just keep quiet and let the good times roll?

[Global Girl]

As I'm not familiar with hotels in Osaka (live here), hopefully someone can answer this.

Do you think one could pull off a swinger party in a 4-5 star Osaka hotel? I'm not sure of the numbers but I'm thinking somewhere in the neighborhood of 4 couples. Would hotel management step in and say something, or just keep quiet and let the good times roll?I think you could get away with it in the Hilton, Westin or Swissotel. The Ritz is a bit too stuffy. Rhiga Royal or Imperial would probably frown upon it.

Think it goes without saying to keep the noise down and probably do any room service orders early on by the 'hosting' couple before the other guests arrive.

[Inakajin]

I think you could get away with it in the Hilton, Westin or Swissotel. The Ritz is a bit too stuffy. Rhiga Royal or Imperial would probably frown upon it.

Think it goes without saying to keep the noise down and probably do any room service orders early on by the 'hosting' couple before the other guests arrive.

'Scuse me for asking, but Global Girl, are you actually female? Are you a provider? or just participating out of interest/curiosity?

Thanks.

[Global Girl]

'Scuse me for asking, but Global Girl, are you actually female? Are you a provider? or just participating out of interest/curiosity?

Thanks.Yes, Yes, and I suppose you could say keeping an eye on what is going on in and around the business I'm in could be considered participating out of interest. :)

[Gyaos]

Yes, Yes, and I suppose you could say keeping an eye on what is going on in and around the business I'm in could be considered participating out of interest. :)

Okay, Miss Shinsaibashi.

Gyaos.

[FunInKyoto69]

The one time I tried was in the afternoon, when things were dead. Still they wanted extra...probably a way to validate selling to a foreigner against the association rules.

Hotel Healths are also pretty strick about not serving foreigners in Kobe, but in Osaka you'll have better luck.

Delivery Healths are much easier if your Japanese is good.What do you think about "hotel health" business in Kyoto? Do you have any suggestions? My Japanese is good enough to carry a conversation.

[Josh63]

Does anybody have any recent info on Gaijin friendly (no Japanese whatsoever...) P

Pink Salon options in Osaka?

Thanks.

[Homer69]

With no Japanese skills it is very rough. Your best bet is to find an area with touts and use sign language. Very few people in the fuuzoku business speak any English.


Does anybody have any recent info on Gaijin friendly (no Japanese whatsoever...) P

Pink Salon options in Osaka?

Thanks.

[Oregon Traveler]

First time in Osaka. Staying near Hilton (near JR Osaka). Trying to figure out whats close. And where Tobita is. Anyone in Osaka for the next month?

[Hosaisis]

I've been using this website for two years, especially the tokyo part. Thanks to the report, I could find some gaijin friendly shop and had lots of fun. I think it's my time to contribute now.

At first, I would like to present some few thougths about the fuzoku industry and how as a gaijin, we should behave. These things had been presented over and over but let me remind them.

The fuzoku industry is made for japanese. They don't need our money, they have already enough customers, especially in the best rank shop.

Gaijin doesn't understand the rules, gaijin are carrying deseases, gaijin are rude, gaijin wants to fuck the lady, they don't understand japanese. And so on.

They don't want gaijin! It's too much trouble for them.

In order to have the maximum success rate, I try to follow those rules, rules presented over and over in this website:

1. Dress well and be clean. A suit, clean shoes and a good shower. And sober.

2. Check the website. Understand the different course, options. Do we play in an hotel or a room of the shop?

3. Read, understand and follow the rules. They are usually written in the website. Rules depends on the shop but basically honban is forbidden (except in chineese joint and am) which means no penetration. People who tried to do this, japanese or gaijin, will be in a serious trouble.

4. Be polite. EVEN when you are not sathisfied or rejected by the owner. Always thanks the girl and the tenshou.

3 and 4:

This is very important especially fo other gaijin. If you screw up, gaijin won't be accept in this shop and probably in others as a consequence. So don't be egoiste, it's not because you didn't like it that we have to suffer the consequence. It happens many many times because of some assholes who leeches information, are rudes with the tenshou or the lady, don't follow the rule and that's why people are reluctant to give nice address now. I don't mind that people use the information (I did it) but be fair. It's hard to find good place, it takes time and for me, some courage because I'm always scared to screw up things.

Even when I follow those rules, I'm often rejected, it's life. I'll try another one. Go in the morning or between 2 and 5 in weekdays, it's when the shop is a little bit slow and when the chance to have 1 japanese customer and 1 gaijin at the front desk at the same time is low. Remember they don't want gaijin and they don't want to show that they accet gaijin.

And the last thing, Learn japanese and your success rate will skyrocket. Then if you're not fluent in japanese, and especially like me in reading in japanese, I suggest a very nice plugins for firefox. It's called rikaichan.

Ok. Now I can start.

I came from Tokyo to Osaka yesterday. It's my first time here. I did my shukudai and try to go to different shops near nihonbashi. I was really amazed by all the shop in all those street. I couldn't find my way.

A nice things about Osaka compare to Tokyo is most of the shops have the map in their website. I don't really like to call a shop before I visit, I'm not enough confident. I couldn' find any of the one I picked up because I didn't write any address. A big mistake. So I decided to go to a chineese massage joint I saw when I was on my way. Just near my hotel, there is a street with 3 or 4 different shops, all of them chineese or korean. I picked one by chance. The name is mirei. It was on the 3 or 4 floor and it was a copy of paprika in tokyo. 1man, 1 hour with honban. The tenshou was not surprised at all and told me that one american is coming often. I paid, went to the veary small room and my chineese lady came. Her name was Aki, 26yo. She was not so beautiful but very nice. We chat a little bit and she asked me where I was from, I told her but she didn't know where it was. I was very surprised as it's a very big country in Europe (no more economicaly though). Then I had a kind of bad feeling and I couldn't really appreciate the time although she was a very nice girl (but keep telling it's big it's big)

Here is the link:

http://www.mirei.tv/pc/index.htm

and the map :

http://maps.google.fr/maps?f=q&hl=fr&geocode=&q=%E5%A4%A7%E9%98%AA%E3%80%80%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E6%A9%8B&sll=47.15984,2.988281&sspn=14.553841,28.476562&ie=UTF8&ll=34.664876,135.506342&spn=0.002149,0.003476&z=18&layer=c&cbll=34.663799,135.506144&panoid=h6iA7_cRNlfrV0ZAs0731A&cbp=1,136.93095613153253,,0,5

Can I recommend this shop? I don't know. I don't really like those kind of shop, I'm not at all in honban. I did regret to spend 1man there and regret that I didn't do my shukudai right. After returning to my hotel, I search for information on chineese esute shop. There are everywhere and probably most are gaijin friendly even with a low level of japanese.

some website :

http://asianesthe.jp/minami.htm

http://www.kankokuesute.com/search1/index.php?city=3

I will stay a week in osaka so I will try different shop and report it there.

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[Mike Porn]

Hi all

Now I am in Sannomiya. I will stay here 2 weeks. I'm looking for the the Salon in Sannomia and Osaka where I can FS Japanese girl (not Chinese or philipin girl) because I like JPnese girl. Could everyone help to tell me all informations (such as: the locations, price, girl.) and your experiences. It is more detail more better.

Thank you so much.

[Asian Travels]

Could everyone help to tell me all informations (such as: the locations, price, girl.) and your experiences. It is more detail more better.


Everyone has given all informations-RTFF

[Lion]

Here is the link:

http://www.mirei.tv/pc/index.htm

and the map :

Can I recommend this shop? I don't know. I don't really like those kind of shop, I'm not at all in honban. I did regret to spend 1man there and regret that I didn't do my shukudai right. After returning to my hotel, I search for information on chineese esute shop. There are everywhere and probably most are gaijin friendly even with a low level of japanese.

some website :

http://asianesthe.jp/minami.htm

http://www.kankokuesute.com/search1/index.php?city=3

I will stay a week in osaka so I will try different shop and report it there.

]

I too am in Osaka this week. Tempting to try a 10,000 honban now that another has been logged.

On the other hand I have a nice hotel room screaming for a good DH girl...choices choices...

If anyone has had a recent DH experience in Osaka and is willing to share, I would appreciate (I promise to try to get some picts!). My last DH there was a while ago, and things change so quickly.

If you don"t want to broadcast it to the whole forum for fear of too many non-Japanese speaking idiots calling and screwing it up, PM me and I'll keep it under wraps (but share picts of course).

[Azure Knight]

I checked out Mirei a few months ago. They had a coupon special on their website for a 30,000 yen 3P. The girls were definitely older, but not entirely bad. One was quite a looker, and I wouldn't mind visiting her again. The room wasn't as cramped as other places but still not the lap of luxury either. It was a decent experience, but I don't think I'll be back personally.

[Salaryman]

You can try Miki from Asian Mystique. AM is very good in Tokyo but they don't have a lot to choose from in Osaka. I'm interested in trying as I'll be visiting in 2 weeks. May be you can try AM and report back to us.
SM.


Hi all

Now I am in Sannomiya. I will stay here 2 weeks. I'm looking for the the Salon in Sannomia and Osaka where I can FS Japanese girl (not Chinese or philipin girl) because I like JPnese girl. Could everyone help to tell me all informations (such as: the locations, price, girl.) and your experiences. It is more detail more better.

Thank you so much.

[Mike Porn]

You can try Miki from Asian Mystique. AM is very good in Tokyo but they don't have a lot to choose from in Osaka. I'm interested in trying as I'll be visiting in 2 weeks. May be you can try AM and report back to us.
SM.Hi Salaryman,

Could you pls give more detail and the way to there in Sannomiya.

Thanks

[Salaryman]

You can check their website. The full name you can find it from google. They will come to your place. It's take-out only.

SM.


Hi Salaryman,

Could you pls give more detail and the way to there in Sannomiya.

Thanks

[Configuration]

Hello all, long time reader who wanted to say thanks for all the help.

I searched the thread a few different ways but did not find anything on the extremely useful website FU Town.

It is extremely comprehensive for all types of mongering (deli, hotel, etc). In addition it breaks down location into individual towns, very convenient for those who do not live close to the middle of Osaka.

Yes, you have to be able to navigate in Japanese, and there are of course still difficulties for getting service as gaijin. At least with this site you will have plenty of numbers to try.

Here is a link to the Kinki Area section: http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/005.html

Cheers

[Salaryman]

Mike Porn,
Any luck of using the AM service or other service providers at all in Osaka? Please share your experience here. I was in Osaka (around Kansai Airport) yesterday but did not give AM enough notice so I did not get a response from them at all. Will be in Tokyo later this week and will definitely call my favorite AM gals since they normally do not disappoint.
SM.


Hi Salaryman,

Could you pls give more detail and the way to there in Sannomiya.

Thanks

[Azure Knight]

Speaking of AM, it looks like they have another girl available for the Osaka area - Rie. The pictures look good, but as she's technically Nagoya, you'd have to pay double (starting from 60,000). You might as well just take a train up to Nagoya and call her locally.

Also, it looks like Anya Blue has a 40 min rate for 30,000, I don't remember seeing that before.

Kansai sadly doesn't have any in-call options, so we have to work with what we've got.

[Ozboy]

Korean Deriheru.

Tried it. First deriheru experience. Heru in this case might actually mean "hell."

Bait and switch. Nice enough young woman, but nothing remotely like her photo.

If you've never seen the site, consider yourself lucky.

If you have, and have considered it: Don't. Unless you're into gambling.

This is why I prefer Tobita. In the most literal sense you get what you pay for.

[Gyaos]

The tenshou was not surprised at all and told me that one american is coming often.

:)


Gyaos.

[Zcorps]

So, there are lots of posts here about people being brought into Chinese estutes, but not much about Japanese health clubs over here. Real quickly I'm not writing this to share a specific store (because I probably am not going back to the one I went to in this report). I'm writing this report so that you know what to expect when wandering Umeda looking for a random Japanese health club.

So I happened to be in Umeda one night, and I deciced to wander around. I've been doing Tobita quite a bit, and I've also done some Korean delivery places, but I wanted something new. So I wandered around and decided to play my luck with the touts.

I was pretty late at night, but it was cold so there weren't a whole lot of people wandering about. Many touts called out to me asking me to get in there store. I decided on a completely random tout, an older man who is on the short side. He told me 1 man (10,000 yen) for 45 minutes. I decided to go in.

They had me pay the money upfront before looking at any pictures. Normally I would have refused, but I sort of forgot about that part.... In any case, they sit me in a booth, but it's very dimly lit. Very. In comes a the girl, an older lady. I can't see her so I can't tell if she's attractive. She makes some conversation and she gets right to it. Starts out with a handy, then some oral. She says she can bring in one more girl for 1 more man. No sex whatsoever though. I'm a bit hesitant, but I figure why not.

A second girl is brought in, again it's dark so I can't make her face out, but she has a nice body. The proceed to alternate in giving me a blowjob. Now a quick note, I had thought it was a bbbj from the start, but I was wrong. The first lady must have slipped a condom on me while without me noticing(this has been happening quite often recently). After she noticed I was going to take a while, she took it off and it became a BBBJ.

In any case, I finish, they clean me up, and I'm on my way.

This is just quick rundown of what you might expect in Umeda. I feel like there isn't enough info about health clubs for Osaka, so I'll be venturing into these areas more often to see if I can get any info for you guys. Although in the future I do plan to be less reckless about going into these places.

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[Lion]

So, there are lots of posts here about people being brought into Chinese estutes, but not much about Japanese health clubs over here. Real quickly I'm not writing this to share a specific store (because I probably am not going back to the one I went to in this report). I'm writing this report so that you know what to expect when wandering Umeda looking for a random Japanese health club.



I was pretty late at night, but it was cold so there weren't a whole lot of people wandering about. Many touts called out to me asking me to get in there store. I decided on a completely random tout, an older man who is on the short side. He told me 1 man (10,000 yen) for 45 minutes. I decided to go in.

They had me pay the money upfront before looking at any pictures. Normally I would have refused, but I sort of forgot about that part.... In any case, they sit me in a booth, but it's very dimly lit. Very. In comes a the girl, an older lady. I can't see her so I can't tell if she's attractive. She makes some conversation and she gets right to it. Starts out with a handy, then some oral. She says she can bring in one more girl for 1 more man. No sex whatsoever though. I'm a bit hesitant, but I figure why not.

A second girl is brought in, again it's dark so I can't make her face out, but she has a nice body. The proceed to alternate in giving me a blowjob. Now a quick note, I had thought it was a bbbj from the start, but I was wrong. The first lady must have slipped a condom on me while without me noticing(this has been happening quite often recently). After she noticed I was going to take a while, she took it off and it became a BBBJ.

In any case, I finish, they clean me up, and I'm on my way.

This is just quick rundown of what you might expect in Umeda. I feel like there isn't enough info about health clubs for Osaka, so I'll be venturing into these areas more often to see if I can get any info for you guys. Although in the future I do plan to be less reckless about going into these places.

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There are places that offer J-gals, but usually second rate unless you are really lucky. Second rate means older, and/or less attractive, usually in darkly lit places and no photo to choose from. Plus they like to push for up-sells as well. You paid 20,000, too much for a 2-gal BBBJ in my eyes, but don't feel bad-we all have made that mistake.

I should say though that some proven places like Freijia offer married women at a good price, and at least you get to see picts first.

[Lion]

Korean Deriheru.

Tried it. First deriheru experience. Heru in this case might actually mean "hell."

Bait and switch. Nice enough young woman, but nothing remotely like her photo.

If you've never seen the site, consider yourself lucky.

If you have, and have considered it: Don't. Unless you're into gambling.

This is why I prefer Tobita. In the most literal sense you get what you pay for.

Too bad about the KDH. I suspect KDH have many more faked picts than Japanese shops.

I had a great DH experience last night from an unproven shop. I had a list from Fuzoku Townpage with 100 places and just started at the top.

I was in a biz hotel and the first place I called said "no" on account of the hotel being on a blacklist (you need a room card to ride the elevator). But the second one I called said OK, and I met the girl in the lobby.

Got an 18yr old-my first in decades. Second day on the job, but skilled at BBBJ, enough so that she got me off 3 times in 80min. Short, but pretty cute face and nice F Cups. Surprised by getting a foreign guy, but pretty much GF (fingering was OK, but she declined FS enough though she was dripping wet). Total damage 19,000.

Anyone with PM can ask me the name and I'll willingly share-but without Japanese skills you won't get served, that is a given.

[Echi Gaijin]

I went looking for Hime today, but couldn't find it. Looking at the picture on their site, I did see a closed shop in the vecinity that looked like it might have been the place.

[Zcorps]

So lately, I've been trying out DH places. For the most part, they're great can't complain. I've gotten FS from these DH places so I know it exists, but have any of you guys recieved FS from girls who don't have AF written on their options?

The current DH I'm using doesn't even offer a DH option, but I'm thinking of trying a few that do offer AF just to see how often I'm offered FS.

[FunInKyoto69]

Does Freijia have a website?

[Kiami]

Does Freijia have a website?http://www.osaka-093.com/fa/pc/index.html

(from here, you can choose between Umeda, Juso and Nihonbashi)

[Inakajin]

So lately, I've been trying out DH places. For the most part, they're great can't complain. I've gotten FS from these DH places so I know it exists, but have any of you guys recieved FS from girls who don't have AF written on their options?

The current DH I'm using doesn't even offer a DH option, but I'm thinking of trying a few that do offer AF just to see how often I'm offered FS.

I can't speak specifically to the Kansai area, having never played there, but in my considerable experience with DH from Tohoku to Kyushu, I haven't found "AF" to indicate anything other than, well, AF. I've paid extra for it from women in places where they want extra for FS, and none of them would let me enter their pussy w/o extra payment on top of the fee for AF. Of course, with those who give FS regularly w/o extra charge, both openings are OK if you pay for AF.

In my experience, there are two things that indicate FS is expected, though. First, in the companion's personal info, they tell her favorite position for sex. Every DH I've tried that had that info gave it w/o extra charge, and that has been many. No need to tell a customer that info if the companion's not going to screw you, right?

The other is that sumata is listed as part of the basic services. In these cases, though, the woman may or may not want extra pay for it. It's almost guaranteed that you'll get it one way or the other, however. Interestingly, I've been with a couple of women from agencies who did not have sumata listed, and they would NOT do it, but they DID give me FS. Go figure!

[Lion]

So lately, I've been trying out DH places. For the most part, they're great can't complain. I've gotten FS from these DH places so I know it exists, but have any of you guys recieved FS from girls who don't have AF written on their options?

The current DH I'm using doesn't even offer a DH option, but I'm thinking of trying a few that do offer AF just to see how often I'm offered FS.

Inakajin seemes to have a pretty good record of FS with DH girls. I am not that lucky, but perhaps I order up younger ones who are a bit more conservative/less experienced. Who knows? Maybe Inakajin has a few moves that get them too excited to resist him.

I would guess that any girl with AF on the menu would be more likely to allow or at least charge for FS.

[Meiji]

In my experience, there are two things that indicate FS is expected, though. First, in the companion's personal info, they tell her favorite position for sex. Every DH I've tried that had that info gave it w/o extra charge, and that has been many. No need to tell a customer that info if the companion's not going to screw you, right?

The other is that sumata is listed as part of the basic services. In these cases, though, the woman may or may not want extra pay for it. It's almost guaranteed that you'll get it one way or the other, however. Interestingly, I've been with a couple of women from agencies who did not have sumata listed, and they would NOT do it, but they DID give me FS. Go figure!P4P in Japan gets more and more bizarre the more I read about it (it's a good thing I didn't know about it when I was there last).

Anyone dare provide the kanji for 'favorite position'? :D

[Echi Gaijin]

P4P in Japan gets more and more bizarre the more I read about it (it's a good thing I didn't know about it when I was there last).

Anyone dare provide the kanji for 'favorite position'? :D好きな体位 is what you're looking for.

[Echi Gaijin]

Went to Shanghai Kaori tonight.

Stepped off the elevator and the mama didn't blink an eye to see a white boy.

She sat me down on the couch pointed at the menu, and asked "doko made? " ("How far" for the non-japanese speakers). When I said honban, she indicated the C, D, and E courses. 18K, /70min. , 23k/100min. , and 30k/80min.. Didn't ask about that last one. 3P I assume.

I told her the C course, and asked to see some pics. She brought out 6 and I picked one who looked cute and handed over the cash. Then she lead me down to the room.

Ri-Ri was the girls name. She was definately older than the pic appeared.

Face 6 - cute but
Tits 7 - nicely shaped Cs
Body 5 - needs a bit more tone
GFE 3

Quick shower and then to the bed. She wasn't talking much. An OK BBBJ. I was running my hands over her but she stopped me when I got between her legs.

Condom on, cowgirl - here she was pretty good.

After I popped, she assumed I wanted to go, and jumped up and trned on the shower. I told her to slow down and sit for a while. We talked for a good 15-20 minutes, and once I got her laughing she was a lot friendlier.

When it was about time to go, another quick shower, and out the door

Japanese speaking Gaijin friendly place I expect I'll return to, but try another girl.

[Lion]

Went to Shanghai Kaori tonight.

Stepped off the elevator and the mama didn't blink an eye to see a white boy.

She sat me down on the couch pointed at the menu, and asked "doko made? " ("How far" for the non-japanese speakers). When I said honban, she indicated the C, D, and E courses. 18K, /70min. , 23k/100min. , and 30k/80min.. Didn't ask about that last one. 3P I assume.

I told her the C course, and asked to see some pics. She brought out 6 and I picked one who looked cute and handed over the cash. Then she lead me down to the room.

Ri-Ri was the girls name. She was definately older than the pic appeared.

Face 6 - cute but
Tits 7 - nicely shaped Cs
Body 5 - needs a bit more tone
GFE 3

Quick shower and then to the bed. She wasn't talking much. An OK BBBJ. I was running my hands over her but she stopped me when I got between her legs.

Condom on, cowgirl - here she was pretty good.

After I popped, she assumed I wanted to go, and jumped up and trned on the shower. I told her to slow down and sit for a while. We talked for a good 15-20 minutes, and once I got her laughing she was a lot friendlier.

When it was about time to go, another quick shower, and out the door

Japanese speaking Gaijin friendly place I expect I'll return to, but try another girl.

That is a bit steep for a Chinese Este FS I think. Usually they are 10,000 for a one shot.

But I have seen ones that price as yours did, amazing since they offer no better service than the 10,000 places.

[Warmjan]

Hi,

heading to Kyoto with a buddy who's visiting from the US and hoping to show him a good time. I know that most of the places in Kyoto won't take gaijin, but are there any places that are recommended for a BJ or massage, or even deli health? I speak decent Japanese, but have seen mixed advice on the board about where/whether you can get in any place.

Any advice would be appreciated!

Thanks,
WJ

[Zcorps]

Does anyone have any experience dating some of these fuzoku girls? A lot of them have dropped some pretty strong hints, and I even have a few of their numbers. I'm not sure if dating them would be a good idea though.

[Ozboy]

Does anyone have any experience dating some of these fuzoku girls? A lot of them have dropped some pretty strong hints, and I even have a few of their numbers. I'm not sure if dating them would be a good idea though.

I'm going to ask the question: Why?

We turn to prostitutes for various reasons. Could be because you're not happy in your relationship, or maybe you have trouble meeting people, or maybe you just like the casual nature of the whole P4P experience.

If any of the above are your reasons, my idea is to keep in mind that this is nothing more than what it seems. It's paying for sex. Any relationship with a prostitute starts from there.

The water trade in Japan is built on repeat customers. Keep that in mind, too. Im not saying dont respect the girl. You should always respect the girl. Just keep in mind even though she may have a nice time with you and maybe even enjoy your company when you're not humping her, she's at work. Getting her or your emotions involved is asking for trouble.

[Homer69]

I tend to agree strongly with this. Business is business and your relationships should not be part of this. Nothing good usually comes of this. You have to think in terms of whether your parents, aunts and uncles would approve if there were 100% transparency. You can have special feelings for a provider but it's cranking up trouble in the long run. My best advice is to keep it a business relationship.

In general, females require maintenance, care and feeding, even those with no baggage. But add the fact that they are in the sex trade and it just doesn't have the ingredients to make for anything but eventual trouble.

I have a few providers that I have a strong liking for. We do our business and I get what I want and they get paid. They don't bother me, they don't ask for my time and they treat me like I'm special when I need service. I have feelings for them but it doesn't go beyond that. I have similar feelings for the lady who cuts my hair in Kawasaki and for my dentist in Tokyo who is also a lady. But, it ends there. Done. Just a business relationship and nothing more.


I'm going to ask the question: Why?

We turn to prostitutes for various reasons. Could be because you're not happy in your relationship, or maybe you have trouble meeting people, or maybe you just like the casual nature of the whole P4P experience.

If any of the above are your reasons, my idea is to keep in mind that this is nothing more than what it seems. It's paying for sex. Any relationship with a prostitute starts from there.

The water trade in Japan is built on repeat customers. Keep that in mind, too. Im not saying dont respect the girl. You should always respect the girl. Just keep in mind even though she may have a nice time with you and maybe even enjoy your company when you're not humping her, she's at work. Getting her or your emotions involved is asking for trouble.

[Homer69]

I was there last month. It appears to have closed.


I went looking for Hime today, but couldn't find it. Looking at the picture on their site, I did see a closed shop in the vecinity that looked like it might have been the place.

[Lion]

Does anyone have any experience dating some of these fuzoku girls? A lot of them have dropped some pretty strong hints, and I even have a few of their numbers. I'm not sure if dating them would be a good idea though.

Someone asked Why?-free sex is the obvious reason of course.

Many girls are doing it as a temp job or for extra cash anyway, so it isn't surprising they may be into a foreign guy they meet, expecially if the age is within 10 years. Some may want to travel overseas, and the English lesson for sex becomes a play.

Still, I agree that these are not the girls you should put at the top of the GF list. A few casual dates is probably cool, but the baggage will be more than usual in most cases.

[Azure Knight]

If you get a girl who is a sex freak, or wouldn't mind trading sex for English lessons, that's fine. But that would just be an extremely lucky catch. Most of these girls are in the industry because they have debts to pay/just need or want a lot of money, and don't mind sacrificing their bodies to do so.

Its the monger's dream to get that sexy fuzoku girl in his hotel room for free, but think about a freebie from her POV - for her its like a waste of money.

I like building up relationships with these girls because they tend to pay it back in kind - the service becomes exceptional, and they give you nice perks like fudging the time or the price. And it just makes the whole experience go smoother. But at the end, remember that she's there because you're paying her.

But eh, non-fuzoku Japanese girls can be just as tricky if not more so, so just do what you feel is right but remember to keep your feelings in check and your nose alert for anything that might not smell right.

[Xslikx]

I almost always tell the girl to give me her contact info. This is mostly just habit, since I always get the contact info of people I meet.

When I first started asking working girls (in North America), I was blown away by how many went for it. But they give it out for basically the same reasons I ask for it - its just an automatic response, its just contact information, it doesn't really mean anything. The Japanese girls will always go on about how we're going to go hang out together, etc. But this is just part of their automated response to a guy's approach, etc. It doesn't really mean that they want to go out, or even if the do at that moment (and probably some do), it doesn't mean that that will (and in my experience most wont).

In Japan, of course, contact info includes email, and lots of girls to love to chat on mail. This also involves all kinds of talk about going out together, etc, but anyone who's ever chatted with a joshikousei knows how much Japanese girls love to talk about what they are going to do, when in fact by and large they will just do the same boring shit day in and day out.

That being said, I have dated a few girls I met through work. Two in North America and one here. Kinda fun, kinda a waste of time.

But, hey this is Japan, there's so much untapped pussy in this country, it boggles the mind. If you're gonna date a working girl, the adventure of it is a good reason, free sex is not.

Z, why not go out pick up some regular girls?

PS: As for the English lessons angle, maybe that works for the frumpy English starfucker types, but when you consider the price difference between say, and hour an a half one-on-one English lesson at a Starbucks and a 15 minute one-on-one session with a 20yo hottie in Tobita, one could end up teaching English for the rest of one's natural life in exchange for a few two-hour romps at a love hotel.

[Zcorps]

I decided to do a quick write up on delivery health. The top portion is some information about why we are not always allowed at Fuzoku places and is actually relevant to the hobby as a whole. The bottom part will be a guide of sorts. It’s to help out those too afraid to try DH services, or those want more info.

Let me tell you this, once you find a good deli health shop, they are amazing. FS is available and the girls are amazingly beautiful. If you have your own apartment, these are often the best deal for FS with Japanese girls. Many of the girls are young and are only doing this as a temp job (no really), so there is a nice inflow of new girls at a good shop.

However, this is something that only those who can speak the language can really get away with, at least not without the help of someone who speaks Japanese fluently. Even for those of us who do speak the language, sometimes we are refused service simply because we're Gaijin (assuming you don't hide this fact). There are many shops that will service Gaijins, however often they must confirm with the girl. After several conversations with many of these girls, I now know why some of them simply won’t service gaijin. For the record, these are from conversations with girls who normally refuse Gaijin, I found a shop that will beg (no joking, you can sometimes hear it over the phone) simple because I’m a call the shop on a regular basis.

Firstly, many of the girls that refuse foreigners are actually very willing to date foreigners. I’ve never heard any of them say anything about the size, or that they find foreigners unattractive, or smelly etc. I actually know a few girls whose dream is to date a foreigner, but they still normally refuse foreigners. Despite that, they tend to be afraid of AIDS/HIV. They have it in their head that only foreigners have these diseases. I have no idea how true this is, but this is how many of them think. Another reason is that many foreigners are pushy. This isn’t limited to westerners, many girls say that Chinese or Korean customers tend to be the worst. The customers might push the girl to do things she doesn’t want to.

One other reason they refuse us is because of a safety issue. We tend to be much bigger than our Japanese counterparts, they’re afraid that we might force ourselves on them and they won’t be able to do much. If you haven’t noticed, the average Japanese man is fairly small. While we tend to be slightly larger, enough to scare the girls. There might be other reasons why the refuse, but these are some that I hear repeatedly out of the girls who normally refuse foreigners.


That said, many of you are absolutely afraid of using Deli health, despite knowing Japanese. You’re afraid the girl that’s coming won’t be attractive, or won’t look like the picture. Well, you should be afraid.... at least a bit. Many Deli Heath places don’t have real pictures. A good quick test is to check the girls’ pictures. See if you can find a common theme between the pictures of the girls. The same uniform, same props, or same background. That said, not all the pictures need to have the same theme, many times there will be more than two types of picture themes. Example, one shop has girls dressed in schoolgirl outfits, and others in normal clothes, that's fine. I would like to stress that you find a store where the pictures of the girls are real, and the girls listed on the site are actually girls that work there. Otherwise you're just playing Russian roulette.

Calling up a DH can be frightening too, I’m not going to write a script for you to say, as most places are different. However, if you’re skilled enough to make an appointment with a doctor, then you’re Japanese is fine. The question of whether to admit you’re a foreigner or not often comes up. There was a time I did not admit to being a foreigner. Most girls, upon arrival didn’t care, but every so often a few would walk away. The rejection always pisses me off, so nowadays I generally tell the store I’m a foreigner and ask them what they can do for me. It seems to work fine. I also find the girls that are willing to service foreigners are nicer to boot. There’s also the question as to whether to do this in a love hotel, a regular hotel, or your apartment/house/whatever. The girls are fairly safe to have taken to your apartment, so it’s up to you to decide that, this is often the cheapest way since you don’t have to pay for a room. Regular hotels are a choice for those who are visiting Japan and have enough Japanese skill to pull this off. Love hotels are intimidating, but are very convenient, clean, and condoms are often provided. If you do choose the love hotel, when you make your appointment, let them know you’re going to one, and tell them what area they are in. If the love hotel is the type that has an unattended check in/checkout service, then dial the front when the girl arrives so that they can get in. Some places provided a machiawase service for those of you too shy to check in yourself. No matter what you use, you can either make an appointment or cal in and have a girl who is available come over.

So many of you might be curious as to how to pick a girl that will put out FS. Well, Inakajin actually made a good post about this. So you should find his a few posts down. He was right on the money. However, getting a girl to give you FS is a bit different. I’ve never been flat out offered FS. Nor has it ever been implied. I’ve not even asked in most cases. I’ve always just done my best at pleasing the girl, whether that be some DATY, some ear biting, or some tender hugs. In return they give me FS without asking. They just slipped on the condom and we went right to work. I’ve never actually had to pay extra for FS, and I don’t think there is a way to figure out whether or not you’re going to have to pay. I’m not sure how having to pay extra for FS would work, so don’t ask. Do note, however, that FS is generally not allowed. I don’t mean in the sense that it’s not allowed, but is tolerated. I mean the girls actually aren’t supposed to provide FS. In fact, many of the girls I have gotten to provide me FS have said (take this with a grain of salt) that they don’t normally provide FS. So DON’T ever PUSH for FS. If the girl says no, she means it. By pushing you’re only hurting your chances of going back as well as every other foreigner’s chance. Keep in mind, they also have a driver with them that will come up at a moment’s notice.

So what do you get if you don’t do FS? Generally speaking, BBBJ, some LFK/DFK, and some good ‘ol sumata. What I usually do when trying out a new DH shop is to have them send me whoever is free. This way I can assess how accurate the photos are. If they photos are accurate, and the girls pretty, I might return and find the girls who provide FS. However, it’s completely up to you how to approach DH places.

A disclaimer, I've had only a few months experience with DH. So who knows how accurate my information is. On top of that, I've mostly only dealt with the DH in Osaka. Forum members with Private message capabilities are free to message me for a suggestion for a good DH place.

[Lion]

I decided to do a quick write up on delivery health. The top portion is some information about why we are not always allowed at Fuzoku places and is actually relevant to the hobby as a whole. The bottom part will be a guide of sorts. It’s to help out those too afraid to try DH services, or those want more info....A disclaimer, I've had only a few months experience with DH. So who knows how accurate my information is. On top of that, I've mostly only dealt with the DH in Osaka. Forum members with Private message capabilities are free to message me for a suggestion for a good DH place.Nice report. Good advice for all the mongers who are unsure about DH.

I would add that so me smaller shops can be quite busy, so best to have a few numbers ready. Also most have some kind of event discount, so it pays to check the website. Make sure to mention the web discount ahead of time when booking, or they may not accept it.

I haven't had any luck in Kansai with getting FS from a DH. Then again I haven't tried more than a half dozen gals. Usually when she is hot and dripping I pick up a conveniently laid condom as ask if I can enter her, but I usually get the "dame" (sometimes a coy dame which might really mean OK-I never push though). Since the girls are usually very friendly and chatty, I am often surprised by this. I don't think it is something to do with my looks or personality.

I do get great sumata at times, and three rounds is often possible with skilled girl and an 80min session. damage is usually about 18,000 for the girl and 3-4,000 for the room.

[FunInKyoto69]

Has anyone tried the Soaplands in Ogoto?

Please share your views and experiences.

Thanks

[Cockerer]

2 years ago. I visited Aoitori shop in Ogoto. It is the one innermost close to the channel. Being an Asian gaijin, I was rejected at most of the shops. Luckily, this shop offered me a course for 50 min, 15000 yen. I was asked to wait in the lounge to watch TV, hentai and to smoke. Then the papa-san showed me the album to choose the girls. I came at 3 pm on weekdays so there were only 3 girsl available that time. I chose the best one IMHO. I remembered her name was Yukiko. We proceeded into the room, she showered me thoroughly when I sat on plastic chair which had an open space underneath for my genitalia to be easily exposed. After that she showered herself.

She then prepared a hot bath. Then we went in together. She has a brief BBBJ on me in the bath. After around 10 min. We dried up and went to the bed. I began some DATY which she enjoyed very much. Then we did the 69, BBBJ of course. I came missionary covered FS. Totally, it was very nice experience for me first time visiting a soapland. No hassle, no rough, quite GFE. Yukiko even gave me her business card.

I have another time in Okinawa. Pretty the same as previous one, but this time I enjoyed some mat play which was very very nice. The price was 20000 yen, for 60 min. You just ask any taxi drivers there they will take you to the establishments. Of course, some passable Japanese is necessary. But I think you could have higher chance of being accepted to a soapland in Okinawa.


Has anyone tried the Soaplands in Ogoto?

Please share your views and experiences.

Thanks

[FunInKyoto69]

2 years ago. I visited Aoitori shop in Ogoto. It is the one innermost close to the channel. Being an Asian gaijin, I was rejected at most of the shops. Luckily, this shop offered me a course for 50 min, 15000 yen. I was asked to wait in the lounge to watch TV, hentai and to smoke. Then the papa-san showed me the album to choose the girls. I came at 3 pm on weekdays so there were only 3 girsl available that time. I chose the best one IMHO. I remembered her name was Yukiko. We proceeded into the room, she showered me thoroughly when I sat on plastic chair which had an open space underneath for my genitalia to be easily exposed. After that she showered herself.

She then prepared a hot bath. Then we went in together. She has a brief BBBJ on me in the bath. After around 10 min. We dried up and went to the bed. I began some DATY which she enjoyed very much. Then we did the 69, BBBJ of course. I came missionary covered FS. Totally, it was very nice experience for me first time visiting a soapland. No hassle, no rough, quite GFE. Yukiko even gave me her business card.

I have another time in Okinawa. Pretty the same as previous one, but this time I enjoyed some mat play which was very very nice. The price was 20000 yen, for 60 min. You just ask any taxi drivers there they will take you to the establishments. Of course, some passable Japanese is necessary. But I think you could have higher chance of being accepted to a soapland in Okinawa.Thank you very much for sharing your experience. btw, how did you get to the soaplands from ogoto station? is it accessable on foot?

[Jaycam]

I have a Japanese lady friend in Osaka who is looking for some advise on how to market herself she has been working off and on for sometime now. I posted a thread in the classifieds but, I'm posting here to see if you guys can recommend a good agency in Osaka for her to work at. She does not want to see Japanese men. She is a single house wife so she only wants to do this part time.

Any advise would be appreciated! Let me know if its cool to post her contact info in this forum? Not sure of the rules.

[Lion]

I have a Japanese lady friend in Osaka who is looking for some advise on how to market herself she has been working off and on for sometime now. I posted a thread in the classifieds but, I'm posting here to see if you guys can recommend a good agency in Osaka for her to work at. She does not want to see Japanese men. She is a single house wife so she only wants to do this part time.

Any advise would be appreciated! Let me know if its cool to post her contact info in this forum? Not sure of the rules.

The classifieds are the place to put this (but referencing the ad in the Kansai thread as you have done is a good idea), and a pict. would definately help her drum up business. Rates would also be useful.

[Cockerer]

I live in Otsu city so I went there by my 50 cc scooter which is quite convenient, just following route 161. Sorry I don’t know how far from Ogoto station to there. Oops, I’ve just checked back the general site for Ogoto soaplands to find that the shop I mentioned in previous post was renamed to Atelier. It seems that Yukiko was not there anymore.

http://www.ogoto.net/indexf.html

Atelier: http://ogotoatelier.jp/


Thank you very much for sharing your experience. btw, how did you get to the soaplands from ogoto station? is it accessable on foot?

[Echi Gaijin]

The classifieds are the place to put this (but referencing the ad in the Kansai thread as you have done is a good idea), and a pict. would definately help her drum up business. Rates would also be useful.Contacted her: rates 20k/2 hours but no pic.

Jaycam, since you were looking for advice on marketing, you might suggest it to her.

[Techrepjapan]

Funny, she sent me her photo without out telling me her rate.

She just asked me if I could pay her.


Contacted her: rates 20k/2 hours but no pic.

[Azure Knight]

Contacted her: rates 20k/2 hours but no pic.

Jaycam, since you were looking for advice on marketing, you might suggest it to her.
I tried contacting her as well but I never heard anything back.

20k/2hr isn't bad, but a pic would be nice.

[FunInKyoto69]

Her rate is 20000 yen for 2 hours

Would you like / Is it possible for me to post her pic here?

She said she is only available on Wednesdays and Thursdays.

[FunInKyoto69]

Her rate is 20000 yen for 2 hours.

Would you like / Is it possible for me to post her pic here?

She said she is only available on Wednesdays and Thursdays.

[Jaycam]

Her rate is 20000 yen for 2 hours.

Would you like / Is it possible for me to post her pic here?

She said she is only available on Wednesdays and Thursdays.Go ahead but please don't show her face without her permission.

Thanks

[Haam Sap Lo]

Thanks for the introduction. I took her out for two hours and we had a great time in a Dotombori Love Hotel. She was a pleasure to be with and treated me really well. She did not treat me like a short time customer and it was like dating my real girl friend. Will definately look her up again.

Thanks again !

[Jaycam]

Thanks for the introduction. I took her out for two hours and we had a great time in a Dotombori Love Hotel. She was a pleasure to be with and treated me really well. She did not treat me like a short time customer and it was like dating my real girl friend. Will definately look her up again.

Thanks again !Cool, as I said she is real sweetheart. Here are some pictures of her.

[Osaka3210]

I had given up on deri health for a long time because of past bad experiences with it. But I was in the mood for some foreign company and went to a site that specializes in foreign women. As usual I was nervous making the appointment. I disclosed right away that I was non-Japanese and the guy I talked to was fine with that, but said some girls will not accept foreign clients.

I talked to him a couple of days before to make sure it was actually going to happen and finally called him on D-day from the hotel. All I said was I wanted a busty girl who was kind of cute. He said no problem. They arrived at my hotel as scheduled and she was quite attractive. She was advertised as from Spain but actually was from Chile. I paid the guy 16, 000 and he left. The short story is the girl then said full service was another 20k. That seemed a little expensive for me so I told her I was fine with just the advertised services, felatio, 69, kiss etc. She was not happy that she wasn't going to get the extra 20 so she was reluctant to do much. After disrobing, she was quite hot, she did a covered BJ and sim sex. It was not bad but obviously she wasn't really into it. As soon as I came the show was over.

I apologized that I didn't know the system and she was quite nice but the problem was that she expected another 20k which she didn't get. If I wanted to spend 36k she might be a good option. I don't know how the quality of the experience would be but it might be interesting. I guess this is one of those live and learn situations.

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[Lion]

. She was advertised as from Spain but actually was from Chile. I paid the guy 16, 000 and he left. The short story is the girl then said full service was another 20k. That seemed a little expensive for me so I told her I was fine with just the advertised services, felatio, 69, kiss etc. She was not happy that she wasn't going to get the extra 20 so she was reluctant to do much. After disrobing, she was quite hot, she did a covered BJ and sim sex. It was not bad but obviously she wasn't really into it. As soon as I came the show was over.

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36,000 for about one hour is too much, unless she is amazing. You can get a quick FS in Tobita for 12,000. Japanese DH is about 16,000, but you should get multiple shots for that and good service. Offer 5 or 10,000 to a JDH gal and FS might be included.

I paid about 13,000 for 50 min (?) once, hotel included. Got a Russian who looked almost like the picture I was shown. Busty, bit older than picture. Friendly. Shower and down to business, then suggests sex for another 10,000. I decline and she gives a decent all nude CBJ, but only one shot.

The Western gals are probably all good for FS, but they will want to upsell you as bad as a Chinese massagi girl.

I would say you'll get more bang for your buck with J gals, or proven Chinese este that have clear prices, pictures and actually give you all the time you pay for.

[Osaka3210]

Yes it was too expensive. I have usually had better experiences with Chinese este. Most of the time the experience is closer to GF and not as obviously a business deal. But of course some times you crave something different.

[Anonmyous]

Some p4p experiences just need to be posted here. They are wonderful treasures of life that need to be shared for the appreciation and enlightenment of others. My experience with Harem Nights was no such thing, but yet I think you ought to hear about it. Why? Well, because some p4p experiences are truly unfortunate and need to be shared so that others may avoid them at all costs. This is the essence of TOFTT.

Harm Nights is a delivery health service in Osaka that I recently found in the newspaper called, "MAN-ZOKU. " After doing some research I decided that, after a long break from the p4p scene, this would be a worthwhile foray. There seemed to be a decent selection of girls on the website and the prices were great (though with limited service). The basic package offered was 90 minutes for 10, 000 yen. That would be an amazing deal, but for that it doesn’t include everything listed on the website. More on that in a moment. The agency seemed to be foreigner-friendly and I thought things were off to a good start.

When I called, I had just checked into a hotel room and I had the room for two hours. The service said that they would send the girl, "Pink, " immediately. I was told that, I would have to pay two separate surcharges on top of the 10, 000 yen. 2, 000 yen each for the girl’s cab fare (though she told me later she had come by driver from the agency, not by cab), and for something else which the service declined to explain except to say that it was a "standard charge. " All things considered, I wasn’t too upset by this. The hotel hadn’t been too expensive, and 14, 000 for 90 minutes of service still seemed pretty fair.

Well, like I said, I had the hotel room for two hours, but it took quite a while for Pink to arrive. To be more precise I waited almost a full hour. That said, I knew I’d have to take an extension on the hotel room to get the full time of service. When she finally arrived I was shocked. On the website Pink was listed and pictured as a larger breasted girl of about 25 years old (if I recall correctly). What was standing outside my door was a flat chested 36 year old woman with thick glasses and some serious signs of reconstructive dentistry.

To be fair, if I put aside the fact that I much prefer busty women, she did have a fairly attractive body, but I was just generally put off by the great discrepancy. Well I was determined, having paid her driver up front (a big mistake in retrospect), to have a great time. During my long wait I’d already filled a bath and gotten everything ready so I gently urged her into the shower and shortly followed. The washing she gave me was, as best, perfunctory. I was willing to accept that and get straight to some more interesting service, so no complaints there.

I was surprised when she asked my to relax in the bath but I figured I’d enjoy a romp in the tub, but she wasn’t having that either. I got into the tub and she quickly washed herself and said she’d be waiting outside and that I could take my time. Well, I sat in the steaming bath for a couple of minutes to cool my temper. After all there’d be little sense in doing anything rash. Still determined to make the best of the situation I got out, dried off and headed to the bed.

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[Anonmyous]

She motioned for me to lay down and proceeded to give me a HJ and BBBJ with excellent technique but exactly 0% GFE. That being as it was I wasn’t able to get off and I did my best to express that I was enjoying it, even if I wasn’t getting off. After about 20 minutes of this service she stopped and asked me if I was going to be able to get off. I replied that I didn’t think I could yet, but that maybe if we changed activities I would be able to. She asked me about sex (not an option on the website, of course) and I said that FS would be great. She quickly told me that it would be another 10,000 yen at which I said that I’m sure it’d be great, but that I really liked sumata. She said that sumata would be an additional 3 or 4,000 yen.

At this point I realized what was going on with the website. The website lists a lot of services as “standard,” and they are fairly standard things. HJ and BBBJ are on that list, but so is DFK (none of which I’d gotten), sumata (which she said costed extra), and several others. Below these on the website are “options.” The options list is very short and had prices listed where the above section had none (implying their inclusion). Well, what was going on was that the “standard services” were services that every lady would provide at a “reasonable charge” in addition to HJ and BBBJ (the only two services actually included).

Being absolutely determined to have a good time, I agreed to her rate for sumata and she called her company to let them know. When she got off the phone she asked me for an extra 5000 yen, and I politely reminded her the price she’d quoted earlier. She said, “Yes, but the company says that its an extra 3000 to 5000, and its up to the girl.” At this point I was almost sure she was trying to antagonize me, so I declined the ludicrous charge.

At this point I asked her if we could take a break for a minute or two. I was interested in warming her up a bit and giving myself some time to build up again (having gotten off earlier in the afternoon). She said that rest was not included and that if I wanted to rest our time was up. So I asked her if she’d do DATY, and she said she didn’t care for it. I asked her to continue service at this point (having, apparently, no other options), but she declined saying that she couldn’t get me off and that she was sorry.

By this point I was really quite upset, but explained that we still had a lot of time and I’m sure she, being a beautiful lady (yeah, I choked on those words), would be able to do it, but she just apologized and said that she would call her company and explain the situation. What she actually said on the phone was basically, “Yeah, I’m done. Have the driver pick me up when he can. Yeah, OK, bye.” And without even looking my way she went into the shower to clean up.

At this I called up the provider and explained the situation. The company said that maybe they could send a new girl, but it would take at least 30 minutes, and I would have to pay for her as well. I tried everything I could without losing my temper and by the end of the conversation the man actually insulted me and said that it was annoying that a customer would call to complain.

I promptly hurried out Pink who had taken a surprisingly long shower (at my expense, as I had to have to extend my time for the room), and washed myself off. I gathered my things and went to check out still furious at the situation and at myself for not remembering that if something looks too good to be true, it probably is. I paid for the room and the extension and left far poorer in cash and in spirits that I had entered without even one pop to show for it.

I called up a friend for a beer at the pub and he cheered me up quite a bit. Later, as I looked back on the experience I realized that whenever I try someplace untested, this is a risk I run. The whole ordeal (room, extension, girl, fees, etc.) cost about 20,000 yen, and the service provided was 20 min of HJ and BBBJ. It’s no wonder I was upset about that, the customer service, the (incredibly) inaccurate description on the website, and the obviously shady attempt to obscure what service were included to hit up customers with extra costs mid-session. The best thing about it, in fact the only good thing about it, is that now that it’s over, I can write this report and make sure that you are all able to avoid this place like the plague.

Conclusion, Harem Nights DH service in Osaka is a rip off and by far the worst P4P I’ve ever had. I hope that you gentlemen can learn from my mistake. I’m going to take a few weeks off before I try again, but hopefully the next time you hear from me I’ll have something better to report.

As always, best of luck to you.

- Anonmyous

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[Lion]

Conclusion, Harem Nights DH service in Osaka is a rip off and by far the worst P4P I’ve ever had. I hope that you gentlemen can learn from my mistake. I’m going to take a few weeks off before I try again, but hopefully the next time you hear from me I’ll have something better to report.

As always, best of luck to you.
- Anonmyous

Very useful warning here. Chances are any deal that looks too good to believe is just that. Older girls, fake picts, slow delivery and extra charges are all common at the low end. A 10,000 DH experience is unlikely to be a fine one.

It pays to read carefully and ask questions. A lot of DH make their money on the up-selling of specific services.

[Ozboy]

Excellent report!

Reminds me of the last post I made, but I should follow up with a description.

The place was called promise or puromisu in Japanese. Korean DH. I figured I'd never had DH and had the cash, so why not. NonJapanese DH was more likely to accept foreigners, or this was my thought.

The girl I asked for was on the website named Ren. Any idiot, looking at their website, could tell these were doctored-up Korean models or maybe even actresses that any Korean would recognize. They can't of course use Japanese models since that would be too obviously a rip-off.

I say this in hindsight. I didn't think of it at that time. I just thought whoa maybe this is real. Stupid move.

I sit at the hotel, in the room. Call the place. Girl will be there pretty soon, he says. Very polite. All a good sign, the guy probably knows I'm not Japanese but has no problem with it. Great.

I turn on the television. Watch the porn for a while. Two channels of porn and then the regular Japanese TV. The porn isn't very interesting after a while, the two girls are just jumping around in a tub. Finally, after at least a half hour, the doorbell rings right at 7 pm. I open it and there is a face I've never seen. Bad teeth. Not just crooked, bad. Like bad in the way you don't get bad teeth until you're a certain age. At least mid to late 30's. And Asian women look younger than they are. She says later she's 28. And I'm Mick Jagger.

She gets a phone call. All in Korean. Hangs up. I guess this was to say I'm not a murderer, she's ok. At least they're taking care of her.

We talk in Japanese. She calles me Neh-san, which I think is her messing up, since that means older sister. I think she wants to say Nii-san, or older brother, which would sound right at least. She starts to smoke. I've never smoked before but I said fine, go ahead and smoke. Bad smoker's teeth. Gritty voice. Not hideously ugly but no one I would ever, ever pick out of a lineup and say "she's cute."

Her body was like most Asian womens bodies: small and without much extra fat. That's all I can say about it. Not very noticeable breasts, but you wouldn't mistake her for a man or anything. We settle a price. Regular fee agreed on phone, which was 18,000 yen. Plus the room, which I paid for later, and which came to 4,000 or so. Another phone call. Korean again. Hang up.

Get in the shower please, she says. I do. She eventually follows. Soaps me up. Makes sure I'm clean. Like being in a hospital or something. I felt more like an old man being cleaned by a nurse than anything else. Then she says "Okay you can go out." I dried off and retreated to the bed.

She took an extremely long shower. I began to wonder if she didn't have running water at home and was using this as the one good time to get clean. SPent a long time brushing her teeth.

Finally she enters the room in her towel. Picks up her bag with the costume (high school girl). Puts it on in the bathroom. Comes out with it on, and puts a condom on me. Licks my balls and all that. Lots of tongue in the CBJ.

The costume looked silly on her. She felt silly wearing it, and showed that she felt silly. Finally we screwed, and she seemed to enjoy that, but wasn't into rear entry. It took me forever to pop since I wasn't into her at all. Gotta get something out of this, I kept thinking. Bob's your uncle, she's on the phone again. A few more Korean words. Hangs up.

She opened the window as far as it would open and smoked again. I rinsed off and got dressed. She took her time about getting ready, and I told her to take the tea and sugars and coffee bags. She did immediately and said thanks.

In the lobby, she just walked for the door. "Thanks, sis, bye bye," she says in Japanese. I waved goodbye to her. I wished the woman behind the counter, who was far more attractive, a Merry Christmas.

Bait and Switch. Stay away.

[Joe Schmiglioni]

Hi Everyone,

My first time in Osaka will be in a few weeks. I've read a loy about Soaplands and I was wondering if anyone had any good recommendations on a Soapland or a massage parlor. Thank you in advance for any insight.

Joe

[Lion]

Excellent report!

Reminds me of the last post I made, but I should follow up with a description.

The place was called promise or puromisu in Japanese. Korean DH. I figured I'd never had DH and had the cash, so why not. NonJapanese DH was more likely to accept foreigners, or this was my thought.

Bait and Switch. Stay away.

We will all do ourselves a favor by controlling our urges and requesting a change if the the girl who shows up is not who is on the website AND ugly. If they send a cute substitute, which is often the case as well, then by all means enjoy.

[Stoops]

Had a chance to get into Osaka today and decided to go early for some relief. I have been to many of the places in Osaka mentioned in the guide but had not had the chance to "poke" around Juso. People have mentioned strip clubs and and DH places around there but nothing much about the "massage" shops. I found Sakura online and decided to give it a shot.

http://www.f-navi. Co. Jp/esute-sakura/index. Htm

I got to the shop when they opened at 11 am. The guy who greeted me said foreigners were ok, even those such as me with very limited Japanese ability. Par for the course at Chinese places. He showed me the menu card that just had times and prices but recommended the 60 minute course. I mentioned the website and he knocked off a thousand yen. I paid 12, 000 and was shown to a waiting area. The guy actually gave me a "genki" drink and said "breakfast is on me".

I was very quickly introduced to Yuko. She is a tallish Chinese girl with full D breasts. Not a skinny bobble head doll but not fat either. She was very cheerful and inviting. Sexy naval piercing. She spoke very limited English but used very easy Japanese and occasionally threw in some Chinese for laughs. Once in the room, she quickly helped me undress. While I was finishing up she went to get the shower started. We had nice quick soap up together. As she soaped me up she would play a little just to get things going before we got back to the room.

Back in the room I was expecting one of the pretend massages before we started playing. She told me to lie down on my back. She immediately climbed on and started playing. Kissing and licking. Nice BBBJ with attention given to the boys. Next moved into some 69 action. While enjoying that she used a bit of stealth and put a love glove on me. Once the glove was on she climbed on for some cow girl. Nothing mechanical about her at all. Very nice GFE. Switched into some mish then finished from behind.

After we finished, we had a few minutes left over. She asked if I wanted a little massage. Not too bad. Back to the shower for a rinse off, clothes on and shown to the elevator. Got outside and checked the wallet to make sure everything was still there, no problem.

The shop is on the 7th floor of the building shown on the website's map. There are other massage places on the 6th and 8th floor. There are two or three signs outside the building advertising the shops. Very easy to get to.

This is probably one of the best experiences I have had at a Chinese Massage place. It was even clean. It probably had more to do with the girl than the shop. I will definitely give it another try in the future.

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[FunInKyoto69]

Has anyone ever gone to dx-tohji?

I'm a little interested and I was wondering whats the deal with that place

Any feedback would be appreciated.

[Cockerer]

Hi,

I've been there once. The place was quite easy to navigate from Kyoto station but you have to walk around 10 min. IMO, it was not really interesting. You buy a ticket for 5000 yen and you can stay in the theater for as long as you want. Initially, I thought I could be discounted 2000 yen in I print the discount voucher from the website, but the ticket officer said no discount for gaijin.There were around 5 girls. Each will preform for different theme in a sequence from when they are fully-closed until nothing left. The theme maybe a cowgirl, or a geisha or a an office lady etc., of course with different background music and light. You can sit as close as possible to them during the show but not touching and no photo. The girls were quite young, not necessarily good body. Especially some have very saggy tits and mileage pu**y. I don't know why.

After each girl finished her show, she will remain in the stage for some personal photos, of course you can take photos with her if you give her some tokens purchased before hand in the ticket booth, I believe. She will pose in any positions you like but again no touching is allowed. I saw the senior gentlemen seemed to be enjoyed this most. I don't believe you can have any other deal rather than just sitting there and enjoy the show.


Has anyone ever gone to dx-tohji?

I'm a little interested and I was wondering whats the deal with that place

Any feedback would be appreciated.

[Hunter20]

Has anyone ever gone to dx-tohji?

I'm a little interested and I was wondering whats the deal with that place

Any feedback would be appreciated.Please have a look at my report: 590604

[Cockerer]

Wow, I didn't know about such things at all.

Thank for sharing.


Please have a look at my report: 590604

[FunInKyoto69]

I would like to express my thanks to everyone who answered my question about dx-tohji. Maybe I'll try to give it a go one of these days.

Anyway, has anyone tried going to pink movie theeaters in kyoto/osaka?

I found this site while surfing and I was wondering if any of you tried visiting this place.

http://homepage3. Nifty.com/a-sp/honmachi. Htm

Is it possible to get p4p inside?

[Teppenyaki]

Last week I was in Kansai so I decided to pay a visit to Tobita (third time for me but this is my first report).

It was noon so not so much selection available, anyway after 10 mins walking I was called by mamasan of 長安 (Cyoan) shop. A cute lady, gyaru tipe, smiled at me. She was cute so I decided to accept the invitation.

The gyaru, 直子ちゃん (Naoko) was very friendly and funny to talk with (in Japanese of course). Her body was thin and ass round and firm, but very very small boobs (this is the only weak point).

It was a true GFE. CBJ and FS with multiple positions, DK also available. 20 mins, 16000 Yen damage.

Naoko said me sayonara with a big smile and ever gave me a souvenir of Osaka (a takoyaki-shaped phone cell strap). Very kind!

I want to recommend this shop but unfortunately I cannot suggest the directions to find it inside Tobita. Just try to spot the kanji during your exploration.

Enjoy,

T.

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[Anonmyous]

After my last P4P experience I decided to take some time off and last weekend I got the urge to get out and get some, but didn’t feeling like going the nampa route, so P4P it was. So I decided to go for a place that’s tried and true, but hasn’t been mentioned in a while, Frejia.

I pulled out my keitai and looked it up on one of the navi sites I use. I made my way easily to the infamous Izumi no Hiroba that we all know and love, but damned if I could find the place. After getting in a good hike in the area, I gave up and called and got directions from the guy working the desk. He was extremely helpful and I found the place before too long.

When I went in he was only moderately surprised at getting a caucasian customer. He and I talked about the system and I asked about a few things. The brief version: 1) For courses 60 minutes and longer the "standard services" (kihonteki na purei) are the same for each course, 2) though not listed on the keitai site, sumata is a standard service, 3) the prices are indeed as cheap as listed on their website, and they are upfront about all costs. This last point was important to me after my last foray, so I was really pleased.

I asked to choose from the panel and was shown photos of the women working. I know that the pictures are always off by 2-10 kg, and I was thinking thinner was better, but I couldn’t help myself and took a chance on one of the few women with big breasts. Well, she came out to meet me a few minutes later and, just as expected, she was chunkier and a bit older looking that the photo, but she seemed really into it and started chatting me up right away. We hit it off as we walked to the tiny room we’d be using nearby.

She gave me a good showering with lotion play (an option I didn’t pay for, but she was interested in "showing me"). Her rack felt great covered in lotion and she rubbed me down with it. We showered, played in the bath a bit and then dried off. We moved to the bed and I kissed her a bit to which she seemed responsive, so I moved away from the lips and kissed up and down her back, then between her thighs as I moved in for DATY.

I spend a lot longer on the DATY and fingering than usual, but she reciprocated immediately. I got her through her first and close to a second orgasm, then told her in Japanese, "All right. Now it’s your turn. Show me something interesting. " She was genuinely horny and she squirmed at the sudden request and asked me what I wanted. I just told her to do something we’d both enjoy.

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[Anonmyous]

After a few seconds of me goading her and occasionally brushing her pussy she reached for a condom and I was getting ready for some good sumata when she sits up and whisper in my ear that, "This’ll be our secret, OK? It’s a secret. " Then, she took my waist in one hand, my cock in the other and laid back while pulling me inside of her. I was a bit surprised because the man at the shop made it quite clear that the was no FS.

What’s a guy to do though, so it was off to the races. I rocked her in several positions and the whole time she was really into it. I gave it to her through her first alarm and she had to catch her breath to tell me we were getting short on time. I picked up the pace but we were both so into it that we went right through her second alarm and just kept going.

When we did finish we were both exhausted and I told her I hope she wouldn’t get in trouble for going over and she said not to worry. She laid around with me for a couple minutes and then gave me a thorough washing again despite the time. The called up the shop when I was still drying off so I didn’t catch everything, but I think she made a pretense of having set her alarm wrong or some such thing.

I was stymied. A fuzoku girl who not only lied to her shop but didn’t ask for an extension fee. She had a really positive experience and through her warm personality and actions I had a great one too. The the surprise 20 min FS course and free extension didn’t hurt either. I don’t delude myself to thinking that she wouldn’t do FS for other customers, but I’m sure it was due to the special attention I paid to her at the start, a testament to how treating a girl well will get you better service and generally a better experience.

In summary, Frejia was a pain in the ass to find, but the staff was helpful, the courses are cheap, and there are some women who give you great service. The total damage was 9, 800 yen for a 60 min course (which became almost 80), the hotel fee (included), and the standard package (and our "secret" playtime). All in all a great experience once I found the place.

As always, be safe and have fun. Best regards, gentlemen.

Anonmyous

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[Lion]

A. All in all a great experience once I found the place.

As always, be safe and have fun. Best regards, gentlemen.

Anonmyous

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As we all know, the prettiest girls are not usually the best lays. Freijia speciallizes in older types, but they can be pretty enthusiastic and if you get them hot enough (more than their old man), they may respond nicely.

[Zcorps]

I was stymied. A fuzoku girl who not only lied to her shop but didn’t ask for an extension fee. She had a really positive experience and through her warm personality and actions I had a great one too.

I'm going to assume this is an Osaka thing because I have this happen to me quite often. Free FS that is. In fact my first delivery health girl here in Osaka offered me FS in the same way yours did.

[Osakagin]

We will all do ourselves a favor by controlling our urges and requesting a change if the the girl who shows up is not who is on the website AND ugly. If they send a cute substitute, which is often the case as well, then by all means enjoy.


Good advice about controlling our urges.

However I would add from my experiences of P4P in Japan, you would be much better advised and be considerably better off to save your hard earned cash and head off to the Philippines or Thailand for a holiday.

In either of these two countries you are definitely assured of getting a much more decent return on your P4P 'investment' for a fraction of the cost than from these Japanese or Korean run rip off establishments.

Just my 2 yen's worth from someone who has been burnt too many times to waste my time, effort and money looking for P4P pussy in this country.

[Lion]

Good advice about controlling our urges.

However I would add from my experiences of P4P in Japan, you would be much better advised and be considerably better off to save your hard earned cash and head off to the Philippines or Thailand for a holiday.

In either of these two countries you are definitely assured of getting a much more decent return on your P4P 'investment' for a fraction of the cost than from these Japanese or Korean run rip off establishments.

Just my 2 yen's worth from someone who has been burnt too many times to waste my time, effort and money looking for P4P pussy in this country.

While you are right about value for P4P, one has to budget the extra 100,000 for the flight, hotel etc...

For a guy who just needs to blow his wad, then 20,000 for a nice DH tonight can be more attractive than saving up for something months away.

[Daijiro]

I know there is the soaplands in Fukuhara, but I have noticed lately that the girls in the hoteheru are so much more friendlier and much more "accomidating" if you request them and they remember you.

The VIP Crystal Magic in Sannomiya is a great example. Again it's a hoteheru, but I have one girl there and I have seen her several times. And from the second time I saw her, I have had honban with her ever since then. The 3p with her friend was honban as well.

[Saint Of Killers]

Thank you for this report. I actually went to this place and asked for her, but her name is Yoko, not Yuko, but she fit your description perfectly. I have to say that she was really, really great too. Absolutely no problems and very GFE if you treat her right.


Had a chance to get into Osaka today and decided to go early for some relief. I have been to many of the places in Osaka mentioned in the guide but had not had the chance to "poke" around Juso. People have mentioned strip clubs and and DH places around there but nothing much about the "massage" shops. I found Sakura online and decided to give it a shot.

http://www.f-navi. Co. Jp/esute-sakura/index. Htm

I got to the shop when they opened at 11 am. The guy who greeted me said foreigners were ok, even those such as me with very limited Japanese ability. Par for the course at Chinese places. He showed me the menu card that just had times and prices but recommended the 60 minute course. I mentioned the website and he knocked off a thousand yen. I paid 12, 000 and was shown to a waiting area. The guy actually gave me a "genki" drink and said "breakfast is on me".

I was very quickly introduced to Yuko. She is a tallish Chinese girl with full D breasts. Not a skinny bobble head doll but not fat either. She was very cheerful and inviting. Sexy naval piercing. She spoke very limited English but used very easy Japanese and occasionally threw in some Chinese for laughs. Once in the room, she quickly helped me undress. While I was finishing up she went to get the shower started. We had nice quick soap up together. As she soaped me up she would play a little just to get things going before we got back to the room.

Back in the room I was expecting one of the pretend massages before we started playing. She told me to lie down on my back. She immediately climbed on and started playing. Kissing and licking. Nice BBBJ with attention given to the boys. Next moved into some 69 action. While enjoying that she used a bit of stealth and put a love glove on me. Once the glove was on she climbed on for some cow girl. Nothing mechanical about her at all. Very nice GFE. Switched into some mish then finished from behind.

After we finished, we had a few minutes left over. She asked if I wanted a little massage. Not too bad. Back to the shower for a rinse off, clothes on and shown to the elevator. Got outside and checked the wallet to make sure everything was still there, no problem.

The shop is on the 7th floor of the building shown on the website's map. There are other massage places on the 6th and 8th floor. There are two or three signs outside the building advertising the shops. Very easy to get to.

This is probably one of the best experiences I have had at a Chinese Massage place. It was even clean. It probably had more to do with the girl than the shop. I will definitely give it another try in the future.

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[Lion]

I know there is the soaplands in Fukuhara, but I have noticed lately that the girls in the hoteheru are so much more friendlier and much more "accomidating" if you request them and they remember you.

The VIP Crystal Magic in Sannomiya is a great example. Again it's a hoteheru, but I have one girl there and I have seen her several times. And from the second time I saw her, I have had honban with her ever since then. The 3p with her friend was honban as well.

Last time in Kobe I struck out with Hoteru and resorted to DH. Didn't see VIP Crystal Magic on the usual fuzoku listing site, but I found it with a search in Japanese. I am surprised you got in-looks like the kind of place that used to be off limits to foreign guys-any more info you can give us?

[Daijiro]

Last time in Kobe I struck out with Hoteru and resorted to DH. Didn't see VIP Crystal Magic on the usual fuzoku listing site, but I found it with a search in Japanese. I am surprised you got in-looks like the kind of place that used to be off limits to foreign guys-any more info you can give us?Actually I'm Japanese so that is why I got in with no problem.

[Lion]

Actually I'm Japanese so that is why I got in with no problem.

That makes a HUGE difference. You should mention that in your posts since it is a big factor when we are looking around for places that will accept us non-Japanese.

[Zcorps]

So the other day I wanted to try Osaka Fats, I had trouble finding it so I called the store. The person who answered told me straight out that they don't accept foreigners. Can anyone confirm this, or did I just catch them on a bad day?

[Jaycam]

So the other day I wanted to try Osaka Fats, I had trouble finding it so I called the store. The person who answered told me straight out that they don't accept foreigners. Can anyone confirm this, or did I just catch them on a bad day?Try in person, maybe its harder to say no to your face when you have cash in hand.

Im curious to find out. I will be back around there in May.

[Japanorama]

I've just moved to Osaka and I've been finding the Kansai equivalents of all my usual haunts. Tobita blows Kawasaki away and Miyako is the massage that I could never find in Tokyo. Actually, I've all ready gone to Miyako twice this week.

My question is where can I find something like Jan Jan and New Hot Point. Jan Jan is a BBBJ place in Sugamo, 4000 all together. New Hot Point is a nozoki that charged 5000 for a HJ. Does anyone know of something similar in Kansai?

[Bbqman]

Tobita blows Kawasaki away So true.

Tobita is a bit more expensive than Kawasaki, but, the sheer choice and the fact that Tobita has Japanese service instead of the pushy Korean, really make a hell of a difference

[Gaijin Otoko]

Does anyone remember Toukaen/Tokukakyo? Last time I checked they had changed their name to Shangri-la.

Are they still gaijin friendly?

[Gaijin Otoko]

Can anyone confirm for me that the following place is gaijin friendly?

http://www.69-girls.com/pc/index.htm

Their price list is clearly bilingual in a way that makes me think they are. I'd check it out myself, but I only come to Japan on business now.

[Lion]

Can anyone confirm for me that the following place is gaijin friendly?

http://www.69-girls.com/pc/index.htm

Their price list is clearly bilingual in a way that makes me think they are. I'd check it out myself, but I only come to Japan on business now.

Having the whole menu translated to English is not common, so you are probably right.

I called and got a guy saying it was their day off. But he did say foreigner were ok. He sounded sleepy so I am not 100% sure he realized I wasn't Japanese.

I may give this place a shot as well. Good prices on the Event side.

[Ozboy]

Can anyone confirm for me that the following place is gaijin friendly?

http://www.69-girls.com/pc/index.htm

Their price list is clearly bilingual in a way that makes me think they are. I'd check it out myself, but I only come to Japan on business now.

I would bet the pictures are not their real staff.

[Echi Gaijin]

I would bet the pictures are not their real staff.Indeed, almost certainly not.

[Gaijin Otoko]

I would bet the pictures are not their real staff.Of course they aren't. Not many places use real photos. I just want to know if they are gaijin friendly or not.

[Patrick1]

Hi everybody!

Next week I will spend a few days in Osaka. I would like to relax and have fun around after working. Can you suggest me any place to go ( obviously gaijin friendly ) or any escort to meet? I usually stay around Namba Station, but I can move around Osaka if it is necessary.

Thank you in advance,

Patrick1

[Zcorps]

So last night I wandered to an izakaya and started drinking with some coworkers. We ended up staying pretty late, at around 3 am we finally left. Since I was already in Umeda I decided I would try my luck and see what the toganocho red light district had to offer at this time of night.

For those that don't know the toganocho red light district, it's the area south east of izumi no hiroba. The same area with Freajia. There are many love hotels around the area as well as those free information booths. Don't bother trying the free information booths if you're gaijin, they will tell us that they can't really help us unless we want to go to a kyabakura.

Moving on, there I was in Toganocho at 3am. At this time of night all the touts were calling out for me. I finally decided to approach one, and he asked if I was a gaijin. I said yes, but then he called his store up. He told them I spoke Japanese (which was odd because we had only traded a few words) and he said that he could take me to the store. I asked what kind of services the girls would provide and he said sumata. In my experience here in Japan, sumata often has the possibility for FS. I followed him to the store. He showed me a picture of a very attractive girl then quoted me a price of 12,000 yen which included a hotel room. He then lead me to the hotel room (which is good because in my drunken state I doubt I could find the place). I went up to the room and waited for the girl. The room was fairly large for a "free" room.

A knock at the door and I open it for her. She didn't look like the photo at all. She was ok, but not very attractive. A little chubby too. To their credit she was young though. Which was a plus. She was kind and we talked a bit. We moved to the shower, and then the bed. She provided a basic BBBJ. A few minutes in, I started to massage her vagina a bit. She rolled over to her back, grabbed a condom put it on me and we did the deed. Just to clarify I didn't ask her for FS, she just gave it to me as if it was completely normal. The whole session was 1 hour and it was rather enjoyable all things considered.

I honestly wish I could remember where the store was, or even the name of the store, but I can't remember (no doubt thanks to my drunker stupor). However I do remember where I found the tout, and I can probably recognize him if I saw him again. So there's a good chance I'll find it again. If I do, I'll let the rest of you know.

I decided to post this here in case anyone was in the area late at night. At least you know there are options for us foreigners out there at this time.

[Stinky Squid]

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[Dlite_me]

This is for Cockerer, since you can't recieve pm's:

Hey Cockerer, I, too, am a Gaijin-Asian guy who has been to Ogoto (July 2002). I'm wondering for that price you paid, how was your girl, looks and techinique? I currently live in Hikone, perhaps we've might have met. There aren't many Asian-Gaijin English teachers in Shiga. Perhaps you've been to Yab's bar in Hikone or played paintball in Shiga?

Dlite

[Cockerer]

Hi,

I remember the first time I paid 15000yen for a 50 min course at that Aotori shop. That time there was no mat play. I remember the girl's name was Yukiko. She was truly GFE and did allow me to try almost anything except anal. That was the first time I did a DATY on a WG.

Recently, I made a revisit to Aotori. I confirmed the shop was still there but the name was changed to Atelier. This time I paid 20000 yen for 70 min course which included everything. Didn't remember the lady's name though. She was a bit old, but very skillful with the mat play and oral. I did enjoy it very much. However, she was not as GFE as Yukiko who has left Atelier already. All in all, It was quite satisfactory both times I visited.

I was not in the English teaching business. Maybe you've mistaken me with someone.


This is for Cockerer, since you can't recieve pm's:

Hey Cockerer, I, too, am a Gaijin-Asian guy who has been to Ogoto (July 2002). I'm wondering for that price you paid, how was your girl, looks and techinique? I currently live in Hikone, perhaps we've might have met. There aren't many Asian-Gaijin English teachers in Shiga. Perhaps you've been to Yab's bar in Hikone or played paintball in Shiga?

Dlite

[Naked Gaijin]

Haven't been to Tobita in awhile, but when I got they usually treat me pretty well for a foreigner. Am wondering though if the swine flu outbreak in Osaka has caused any reaction in the mongering scene. Anybody?

[Herbal]

Can anyone confirm for me that the following place is gaijin friendly?

http://www.69-girls.com/pc/index.htm

Their price list is clearly bilingual in a way that makes me think they are. I'd check it out myself, but I only come to Japan on business now.Went down there the other day, they will accept anyone that can speak Japanese at a basic level, I didn't get to see the girls as the 30min course is just a HJ though the 1hr is the full monty, The guy at the door mentioned I was welcome to post info for ex-pats etc on forums etc so I guess they are keen for business. He was struggling to keep me there but I had a better place that had an event on. Later herbal.

[Japanorama]

Went down there the other day, they will accept anyone that can speak Japanese at a basic level, Was she paipan, like advertised?

[Member #3439]

This is a belated trip report, from a trip in late January of this year.

Getting there: I got there via the Dobutsuen-Mae subway station (Exit 2). You walk up and look to your right for what looks like a dingy hallway of shops. It's covered. Walk down that hall and stay to your left, looking left. You'll come to a two way street that has fancy street light fixtures to the left. They are bright white. Go left at this street. Walk about 25 yds and you'll see a police station on the left. Continue straight and you'll start to see the shops with girls.

Trip Safety: It doesn't look or feel safe, but is. People stare a little, but they mean no harm.

Time: 9 and 7 pm on each of two different nights.

Crew: Just me. Caucasian gaijin.

Product: Girls ranging from maybe 19-40 yrs old. Mainly rated 6's to 9's with a couple 5's and 10's.

Solicitation: I cruised every street. I came with no expectation of being solicited, since I am gaijin with no Japanese skills. About 10% summoned me. Many of the mama-sans and girls laughed, clearly suprised to see a caucasian guy roaming there alone. I just smiled and waved. The 8's-10's stared right through me as if they didn't see me. I got some dirty looks from their mama-san's.

Service: My girls were both 100% Japanese, as were most of the girls at Tobita. I took an average looking girl the first night. Let's call her a 7. CBJ followed by FS with CBJ finish. Second night I moved up to very hot "9"..service was as good as the appearance...very nice GFE with BBBJ, FS, and CIM finish. I stopped while I was ahead and still had cash.

Price: 21k yen/30 min for the last one. I don't remember the price of the first.

Recommendation: Go later rather than earlier. Right after work, the Japanese guys like to drive through *very* slowly looking at the girls, apparently gathering mind candy for at home JO sessions. The streets are narrow, and the traffic can make the streets almost impassable for real customers who arrive on foot.

[Azure Knight]

Recommendation: Go later rather than earlier. Right after work, the Japanese guys like to drive through *very* slowly looking at the girls, apparently gathering mind candy for at home JO sessions. The streets are narrow, and the traffic can make the streets almost impassable for real customers who arrive on foot.
Nice report!

If I can just add a few things to your recommendations...

1. Look sharp. Wear a suit if possible - if not at least try to look as handsome/dashing as you can. I went straight after work once in my suit and experienced a much higher call rate. If nothing else, avoid looking like a tourist.

2. Avoid peak times. Weekday afternoons are the absolute best if you can manage it; no one else will be there. As Puta Playa said, mid-evening is probably the busiest, with Friday and Saturday being the peaks. Avoid any holidays or long weekends. Also, there will be less people if the weather is bad (cold/rainy) so use that to your advantage.

3. Always be polite. Even if mamasan and/or girls are laughing at you, don't get angry or visibly bothered. The mamasan at the shop next to the one who is laughing and pointing might be willing to accept you, but she'd be put off by any bad behavior you might show.

4. Not every place you have a shot at will call out to you. If you find a girl you like and she isn't avoiding eye contact completely, try going up to the shop, giving a greeting, and asking if its ok to play. Doing so in Japanese will help your chances tremendously.

[Lion]

There are a couple of these posts recently.
I suspect they are just teasers, but anyone with a valid experience speak up.

http://osaka.craigslist.jp/cas/1207934090.html
http://osaka.craigslist.jp/cas/1183248542.html

[Xslikx]

Nice report!

If I can just add a few things to your recommendations...



Another thing, which is only relevant to Kansai locals, is good old familiarity. I used to live in Osaka with two friends in the general area of Tobita. I would go through every week, sometimes twice, although I didn't stop that often. But I responded to the mama-san's calls, smiled at the girls and told them when I thought they were hot.

Overtime, a number of the mamas who were originally hostile would call out to me and accept my money. Also, the decision often depends on the girl. The same mama will call out to you when she has a gaikokujin-ok girl up front, but come back on a second lap, with a different girl out front and she averts her eyes. Also, some girls will change there minds on the spot and decide to take you. (Once as the mama-san was apologizing to me, the girl says to her, "彼やったらオ−ケイやで.")

[Zcorps]

Also, some girls will change there minds on the spot and decide to take you. (Once as the mama-san was apologizing to me, the girl says to her, "彼や��らオ−ケイや�.")

I've also had similar experiences. I appear to be a halfie and I get a damn good call rate (crowded or not).The mama-san will usually realize their mistake when I approach they'll start getting worried and turn to the girl. Most girls will agree though and we head up.

Once though, the mama-san actually asked if I had a big dick. I'm not huge, but I'm on the bigger side so I said yes. The girl showed concern and thought about it for a good while. She eventually agreed.

The moral of the story is that the girls have the final say in who goes, and they can and often do change their minds.

[Grossman]

So here I am in Osaka with the day off, and some time to kill, and rather than just blowing the day off with video games I thought I'd try something constructive - order some delivery health.

I am a total white boy, but with reasonable Japanese (about level 2, ni-kyuu) so I guess I have a chance of passing myself off as Japanese in an email or on the phone. So I switch the language on my computer over to Japanese, surf a few deriheru sites and come across one I've seen a few times before: http://ikenai.jp/main.html

There's a button for "write a letter to one of the women" so I clicked that, read the instructions and hit the mail button. There are certain details you must fill in - your name, phone number, the time you want her, the girl you want, and any options you would like. Fire off that form, then in about 5 mins I got a call from a guy (the driver it turns out) and he confirms it's me, and the girl I wanted and the kinky options I asked for. (I had to laugh when he read back to me over the phone totally non-plussed "so you want your ass licked right?). She couldn't make it at the time I specified, but he said half an hour later would be OK if that's OK with me - I said yep, and he asked for my address, which I gave and that was it. He said he's call when they got near my place. I passed myself off! So far so good.

Now I just have to convince the girl once she arrives. I had an hour to think about it. I cleaned up my place, but some trad jazz on the stereo, had a shave and put on a suit and tie. I want her to be completely at ease with me and to come across as clean cut as I can.

Then at 5.30 (the time she's meant to come) I get another call from the driver. He's lost and needs directions. Fuck, this could be tricky and if I slip up just even a little, I could blow my chances. So I explained the basic area, what my building looks like, what side of the road it was on, and what shops it was near. (damn Japanese street address system, or lack of it, is burning me here!). Anyway, he says he understands and he's on the way. Cool! Part 2 passed. 10 minutes later I get a ring on the intercom from the lobby - it's her. I buzz her up and pray to certain deities that I can get the job done. She opens the door, sees my face, and takes a big start, and a small step back. No, I don't look so scary, but she clearly wasn't expecting a gaijin, and out comes her keitai and she calls (I presume) the driver. Oh shit, so close yet so far, I'm thinking. But all she says to him is "OK, I'm inside".

Go team!

She looks at me with a sly smile now and says, "Gee you really fooled the driver, he told me you were Japanese. And your Japanese is pretty good, isn't it!" I give the traditional demur. Money is exchanged first, 18,000 yen for 50 min course. A bit pricey, but I've got some options added to the standard course, so I can't complain. She seems nice and apart from the initial shock, she's cool with me. She asks if she can take a shower, and does, I get mostly undressed and 5 mins later I'm hitting it. She listed deep throat as one of her specialties and I asked for some of that, it wasn't really deep throat but I gave her an A for enthusiasm, she really tried to get down on it, but couldn't really get her nose in my pubis. Anyway it was a good blow. She is super thin, which is a bonus for me - other guys probably want more meat on the bones, but not I. I ask for an ass lick and she gets down there with great enthusiasm. Wow - I should have taken a shower too, I think to myself with a smile. Too bad I took a dump already that day, but she doesn't mind at all. I'm not into full sex, so we don't go there, but I'm sure she would have if I wanted. Then I ask if I can come in her mouth and she's like "hells yeah! Some girls don't like that but I'm a different type. Shoot it in me". The clouds parted and a ray of light shone down from heaven. Angels sung.

When we finished we chatted for a while, she cleaned up, I destroyed evidence. I wanted to get as much info for future attempts as I possibly could, so I turned conversation over to gaijin customers and how we can maximize chance of getting some deriheru. She said she's fine with gaijin (American she clarifies) - she guesses I'm American, but I'm not, but if they were Chinese, she wonders whether she could communicate smoothly - that might be a dealbreaker, she thinks. She said, I should be fine with her shop, but some girls might refuse, she's not sure.

Then we played some video games and chatted until the time ran out and she left. I got a yoroshiku, so I think I can call on her again.

Data:
*Body Type - slender, really slender. An A-cup by American standards.
*Face - kitsune, but not so attractive. Not a real turn off, but not a looker either.
*Kinkyness - yup.
* Friendliness - yup
*Technique - Mixed emotions, the Deepthroat was a dissapointment, but really, after 10 years in Japan, I didn't really expect a true deepthroat. It was OK. The ass-licking was long, full and thorough.
GFE - very.

Cheers to all! If your Japanese language (written and spoken) is good enough, give them a try.

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[Zcorps]

I am a total white boy, but with reasonable Japanese (about level 2, ni-kyuu) so I guess I have a chance of passing myself off as Japanese in an email or on the phone. So I switch the language on my computer over to Japanese, surf a few deriheru sites and come across one I've seen a few times before: http://ikenai.jp/main.html


Don't mean to burst your bubble, but ikenai okusan is totally gaijin friendly. You would have gotten a girl whether or not they thought you were gaijin. I've used the place since I got to Osaka, and I'll take my friends there too. This place also happens to be a hotel health so you can go their store and for the same price as delivery get a girl (hotel fee isn't technically included, it's 3000 extra but delivery is 3000 more than heading to the store so it's the same price).

Edit:
To clarify they're gaijin friendly as long as you speak Japanese. If you don't they probably won't help you.

[Lion]

Don't mean to burst your bubble, but ikenai okusan is totally gaijin friendly. You would have gotten a girl whether or not they thought you were gaijin. I've used the place since I got to Osaka, and I'll take my friends there too. This place also happens to be a hotel health so you can go their store and for the same price as delivery get a girl (hotel fee isn't technically included, it's 3000 extra but delivery is 3000 more than heading to the store so it's the same price).

Edit:
To clarify they're gaijin friendly as long as you speak Japanese. If you don't they probably won't help you.

Nice report, Grossman. Glad to know of another Gaijin-friendly winner.

For novices:
Delivery until 7pm is 70min/18,000-so unless the delivery is to your home or business hotel you are probably better off with the Hotel plan, since that is 70min/15,000+hotel 2-3,000

If you search out the specials you can save 2-5,000 at many shops.

I had a late 20s gal who'd rank a 7 or 8 the other day through a "free" course (meaning they chose who to sent). She said her shop doesn't care the nationality, as long as you can communicate your address and request you are good to go. Sometimes they tell her it will be a foreigner, sometimes they don't. Hard to say whether they know over the phone or not.
10,000+3000 transport+2700 hotel=15,700 total for 77minutes.

[Grossman]

Don't mean to burst your bubble, but ikenai okusan is totally gaijin friendly. You would have gotten a girl whether or not they thought you were gaijin. I've used the place since I got to Osaka, and I'll take my friends there too. This place also happens to be a hotel health so you can go their store and for the same price as delivery get a girl (hotel fee isn't technically included, it's 3000 extra but delivery is 3000 more than heading to the store so it's the same price).

Edit:

To clarify they're gaijin friendly as long as you speak Japanese. If you don't they probably won't help you.Ahh, that's interesting. But there are so many sites, and I've been refused before for simply stating in an email that I was a foreigner, so I thought I'd pulled a coup this time.

Anyway, would you care to share any other deri places you know of that are J-speaker, gaijin friendly?

[Azure Knight]

There are a couple of these posts recently.
I suspect they are just teasers, but anyone with a valid experience speak up.

http://osaka.craigslist.jp/cas/1207934090.html
http://osaka.craigslist.jp/cas/1183248542.html
Since they seemed to be in my neighborhood, I sent an email. I got replies back pretty fast, apparently from the husband. He was saying that I could come by even that day, or pretty much anytime I wanted since we lived so close. I asked for pics or stats of the wife and was largely ignored; and when my only mail was for asking about the wife, I never heard back from him.

Verdict? Might be real, but the wife may not be anything you would actually want. I'd say don't waste your time.

[Lion]

Ahh, that's interesting. But there are so many sites, and I've been refused before for simply stating in an email that I was a foreigner, so I thought I'd pulled a coup this time.

Anyway, would you care to share any other deri places you know of that are J-speaker, gaijin friendly?

I am happy to share via PM. I don't like posting my favorites to the whole membership though as some asshole will fuck it up for me (I'm talking from experience here).