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Anyone know if UCLA in ikebukuro still accepts gaijin? Thought some guys said they got turned away recently. Don't want to waste the trip. Anyone been recently? Or are there any other decent places in Ikebukuro that are gaijin friendly?
While this report is rather long, I had to learn a lot of stuff by first hand experience and making dumb mistakes. I was not able to find this site till recently and it might have helped me out a lot more. I also just realized that, thanks to this site, that Tokyo Pink Guide actually had a forum.I have about an intermediate level of Japanese and though I am very familiar with Japan I was TOTALLY na?ve about the sex industry here.My first experience was at some massage place close to where I live in Koganei by a Chinese girl who had propositioned me several times for a massage. I finally asked her if it "was only a massage, " to which she responded yes, but curiosity killed the cat. I paid the 3, 000-yen for 30 minutes and figured there would be an up sale somewhere. About 10 minutes into the massage she tells me that she will give me a hand job for 10, 000-yen. I was still fresh off the boat, but told her it was too high. After she dropped the price to 5, 000-yen, I pretty much said "fuck it" and told her to just finish the massage. She was rather pissed. About 5 minutes later she told me time was over, but I looked at my watch and told her she had 12 more minutes. She just kept saying I was done. The place was a real dump, she was the only one there and I have no clue what the name is. However, its on Naka-dori near the Mushashi-Koganei station. I doubt you will want to go. I kind of think of this as a test run to see what things would be like and to learn from it and it only cost me 3, 000 yen.The second experience was in Kabuki-cho. I read about a place, forgot the name, that was supposed to be close to Koma Stadium in the same building as the Oasis Internet caf? that was gaijin friendly. I went to what I thought was the place, but they told me I needed to speak Japanese. After I told them I spoke Japanese and understood rather well, I got the reply that gaijin could not come in. Well after going to the Angel Hair, which I highly recommend, near the front of Koma stadium, and having a couple of beers I walked around and got several propositions, which I turned down. I have heard horror stories about the Nigerians. Finally, a Japanese guy asks me if I was looking for a girl. I responded to him in Japanese, sure if he knows of any place. He was a little startled that I spoke and we talked about 10 minutes to a building, went up knocked on a door, and went into a shit hole. I bargain with the guy there and I had him at about 10, 000-yen for "everything. " I learned that the meaning of "everything" has different meanings. The first girl they showed me was about 30-40 and I just looked at her and started to leave when they said they had another girl. This girl was about 27 and with my beer-goggles on about a 7. So I coughed up the cash, go to a room, get undressed, shower, and she puts the towel and starts giving me a massage. She could not speak English and her Japanese was not that great. After about 10 minutes she tries to up sell me for FS for 10, 000 more. I told her I paid the 10, 000 for everything and she saw me pay. She only said ohhhhh, and dropped the price to 5, 000. At this point I said fuck it, paid the 5, 000. She took a shower came back naked with 3 condoms. She started giving me a HJ, got he hard, put the condom on (which was small and a pain in the ass to put on), and got on top of the bed. I got on top of her and just started slamming her cause I was rather pissed. After about 10 minutes I finished up and got off when I noticed I had blood on my condom and she had bleed on the bed. She was on her fucking period! I am not fucking lying! I was pretty pissed and she could tell and told me we were done. She ran away, took a shower and came back clothed motioning me to get dressed. I got dressed and upon leaving some old guy told me I could have special price next time and told me the "secret" knock. I told him I would not come back and the girl I was with was on her period, but I had to describe it cause I did not know how to say "period" in Japanese. He just said oh and told me that's why I got a discount.This was the worst sexual experiences in my life. However, in an act of revenge, when she left to take her first shower I put my head under the pillow and noticed that in the bed was a cut out and lift the pillow were I notice a tazzer, the hand held ones (not sure of the correct name). After we were finished and I was getting dressed, I was so pissed that I figured me taking the tazzer would make us even. So I took it and put it in a trashcan in the bathroom at Shinjuku station.My third experience was through a place I found at the Tokyo Pink Guide site, Asian Feeling (www asian-feeling net). They have all Thai girls and I noticed on there site they had girls that spoke English and had site access in English so I thought I would try it. They provide a map that makes it easy to find, however, the sign outside was in katakana. I think. I got inside and the place was really nice and the guy asks me if I spoke Japanese to which I told him yes. He showed me the menu and told me the 10, 000-yen massage included a HJ. I asked about other sexual items and he told me he was sorry but that was it. I figured there would be an up sale. So I pay and my girl arrives, I had Ami, who is better looking IRL, then she takes hold of my hand and walks me to a small room. Her English was better then her Japanese and we talked a little and she gave me two towels and told me to get naked and go to the shower. After the shower she dried me off and took me back to the room I got on my front and for the next 30 minutes she gave me a pretty decent massage. I was rather worried about the time and did not want to have to pay for an extension. She flipped me over and then started doing my legs and proceeds to give me a very good hand-job. She let me touch her legs, but that was it. I asked if she would do more stuff but told me no. After I came she cleaned me up and took me to the shower. She dried me off again and dressed me. We had some small talk and seemed like she was maybe interested in learning more about me, but I figured it was just small talk. One thing she did mention was that she never has sex with customers. She then took my hand walked me to the door and gave me a coupon to come back and I left.compared to my first two experiences this place was much better. I know after having read the reports of various places that I may have paid too much for what I got, but I felt like the massage and the HJ was well worth the money and was fine with the whole experience.What I have learned is if the place is a dump then the service is crappy. I wish I would of found this useful information before. The world sex guide site was useless and so where some other forums. Thanks for the good info and though this is some embarrassing stuff I think it tells about what happens when you do not do your research or are very well informed.I will be trying out Yuri when I get back from the States after the holidays. Also think I will try Club Boo.Also I have had good luck with the whole "nampa" thing and will post my thoughts there.EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I don't know about Ai but if you are trying to book Tamaki you should have a backup plan with someone else comparable as she has a real habit of canceling with some kind of lame excuse. Happened 2 times with me. I was not going to say anything and did not complain to owner, but the forum should know, it would be a real bummer if you had planned your trip around it on a one shot travel time to Japan. Substitute offered but when you have your brain tuned to someone it is hard to switch off.PS, Don't feel so bad after reading post below
After about 10 minutes I finished up and got off when I noticed I had blood on my condom and she had bleed on the bed. She was on her fucking period! I am not fucking lying! I was pretty pissed and she could tell and told me we were done. She ran away, took a shower and came back clothed motioning me to get dressed. I got dressed and upon leaving some old guy told me I could have special price next time and told me the "secret" knock. I told him I would not come back and the girl I was with was on her period, but I had to describe it cause I did not know how to say "period" in Japanese. He just said oh and told me that's why I got a discount.[/blue][/size]There are several ways you can describe a woman's period. The formal word is "gekkei" (Sorry I can't give you the kanji, as this site always turns mine to gibberish, but the kanji are those for "month" and "keizai"--economics'--"kei"). You can also just use katakana "mensu." The word used in the sex industry (for example when looking at a DH schedule) is "seiri" ("life" kanji + "ryouri"--cuisine's--"ri").
There are several ways you can describe a woman's period. The formal word is "gekkei" (Sorry I can't give you the kanji, as this site always turns mine to gibberish, but the kanji are those for "month" and "keizai"--economics'--"kei"). You can also just use katakana "mensu." The word used in the sex industry (for example when looking at a DH schedule) is "seiri" ("life" kanji + "ryouri"--cuisine's--"ri").Thanks, I looked it up as soon as I got home and grabbed my electric dictionary.
Was in Tokyo for a week the end of November & decided to get sucked/laid as many times as I could for cheap. Such times can be disastrous--as can be seen by many reports here, but all of mine were satisfying in there own way, considering I got BBBJ/CIM & two screws for only 23,000 yen! First, Sugamo, then separately, Kawasaki booths.Wednesday, 3 PM, walked from the Sugamo station to the BJ area & was both pleased and surprised to notice that the shittier places (left side going from the station) had signs out for only 2,000 yen & those on the right, 3,000 yen. Based on good reports about it on this board, tried Jan Jan (hiragana), last place on the right. Tout welcomed me right in & pleasant middle-aged woman greeted me @ bottom of steps, took my 3,000, then led me to a booth & brought me a drink. Set up a bit similar to Super Girls, but 1) three rows instead of two, 2) booth backs above head plus middle row lined with smoked plastic at same height on right side so could only see other action when standing, 3) a little darker & 4) spinning ball on ceiling but with tiny spots rather than the reflecting disco mirrored ball. Loud, obnoxious music.Noticed when entering that the girls servicing the other two guys there were naked on top but not the bottom & were on their knees beside the guys, leaning over their laps, not acrobated up the way Super Girls does it. Waited for 10 minutes or more, & a rather cute, chubby & quite voluptuous girl pops in, greets me, lays down a stack of warm, wet clothes & gives me one for my hands. Was pleasant but seemed fairly shy & not too interested in making small talk. Asked her her age, she said 27; asked if I were her first gaijin, she said "Zen zen." Asked me to pull down my pants, washed off Jr., then pulled her top down. I tried to remove the dress, but she told me top only. Let me play w/her a little down below over the clothes, though. Told her I wanted a little kissing, & she obliged, but not very enthusiastically. Stood up on her knees & pressed her melons into my face (a bit too hard, actually), so I played & sucked for a while. During that, she just sort of held Jr., who didn't respond much at all to such light touching. Finally went to work down below, & this was the best part. Started out gently & tenderly, licking, kissing, etc., & as Jr. grew, she moved up to the head, licking, flicking, etc. Good technique for me. As Jr. grew bigger & harder, she began to move more vigorously & took me into her mouth quite deeply. Although I was a bit put off because I couldn't finger her asoko, got enough play with the rest of her body (incl. her arse) to end up hard as a bat & exploded. She gently spit it into one of the cloths, then gave me another to wash my hands/mouth, while she cleaned off Jr.Well worth a mere 3,000 yen! Didn't get her name, though, sorry.
Friday, around 3 PM, headed to Kawasaki booths. If I saw it correctly, basically two streets--one running somewhat parallel to the big 4-laner on far side from station, the other running perpendicular to that and out at somewhat right angle to the big street. Seems to be end of soap area, but if I recall correctly, there was one small soap right on the corner of those two streets.First walked down the main one (parallel) & saw nearly all curtains pulled except 1) one at far right end, where a girl seemed to be getting herself straightened up after a visitor & 2) larger booth w/2 middle-aged woman and a man drinking & talking. Passed on those & went back to soap corner & out toward the big street. One booth had curtain partly open, & the woman inside looked rather cute & a little sultry to me, so went in. Sign out front said "Minori." Went upstairs where her partner was already in one room with a punter & entered other room. She was a little subdued, but not unfriendly, chatted a bit. Told me she was 36 & had 18-yr-old daughter; had never had a gaijin except for a couple Asian men. Had rows of pierces around both ears but only some of them filled with earrings. Told me she was Minori & had been working there only 2 months.Undressed herself and I was quite disappointed to see her body--too thin, almost no breasts (and those a bit saggy), and shaved snatch. Nicely-shaped small tush, though. I undressed while she was out getting some wet wipes. She returned and stared to clean Jr. Pulled her up and started gently kissing her and she responded well--gently moaned, whimpered, & drew herself up tight against me. After a bit of that, she went down south BB and nibbled on me a little. Not much technique, so asked to 69, which got me going nicely, then asked her to lay on her back so I could finger her while watching her suck on Jr. My fingering her seemed to drive her crazy such that she couldn't really even suck me. Finally, got on top of her, and during the act, she acted for all the world like we were sweethearts. Really seemed to enjoy it, hugging, kissing, fucking--everything.Afterward, chatted a bit, she told me she would like to learn English because she loves reggae--old type like Marley, not modern DJ.My ratings:Face 7-8Body 4Technique 5GFE 9+
Sunday, 1 PM. Wanted to try Super Girls again but went there only to find they don't open till 3. Was horny & didn't want to kill time for 2 hrs., so decided to return to Kawasaki.Walked by Minori's booth again & saw what I thought might be her in the corner, but her booth mate was looking out the window, & I didn't like the looks of her so much so went to main street where at first it appeared all curtains were pulled except one with 3 middle-aged+ women & a man. Wondered if they might be "managers" of the area. Then went back toward soaps and noticed a very tiny pink & white booth (maybe 5-6 feet wide) just before the corner soap. Sign out front said Himawari ( I think), & girl standing inside putting on lipstick looked super sexy--tight top w/large melons, tight mini-skirt & very loosely knitted body stocking from below the breasts to her feet. Walked in and asked if it was OK, she quickly ushered me in, turned off the light, closed the curtain & locked the door.Long back room to steps, then up to her room. Other rooms there, but seemed empty. She motioned me in, then immediately asked for 10,000 yen. Asked her how much time, she said 20 minutes or so (was w/Minori for 40 minutes, and she never seemed to look @ the clock or care how much time had passed). Paid her, she told me to get undressed, then left the room. Returned later to find me sitting on corner of bed (had both single bed and futon on floor beside). She undressed (except for the very sexy crotchless stocking) & motioned for me to lie on futon. Immediately went to work down below, & said "dame" when I said I wanted some kissing. Worked from the side & seemed like she was doing it BB, but later realized she'd slipped a jacket on. Didn't mind my playing w/breasts (which, I discovered were mostly silicon), but drew her ass away every time I tried to touch her crotch. Also found out she's Korean, 27 (but looked like 18-19), been in Japan only 2 months, can't speak English and very little Japanese. Was put off by her cold attitude, but her sheer sexy appearance got me going.Soon she motioned me up and laid herself down on the futon, grabbing a handful of lub and putting it down below on her very hairy snatch. Tried to go down on her anyway, but she blocked my mouth with her hand & asked me to enter. I said, "OK, stupid *****, if you only want to fuck me, let's just do it!" to which she responded w/a blank look. Was a bit pissed so really romped on her hard, but since she was quite small down there I could feel myself really pushing the envelop inside and asked if it was "itai." Said no. Hadn't been in her 5 minutes til she was telling me to come! Romped on her from the front for a while with her legs up high, then told her to turn over and really whammed her from the back while she told me twice to come. At any rate, I did blow in less than 15 minutes, while I lasted 30 or so w/Minori. She immediately pulled out from under me, yanked off the gum, & handed me wet tissues while she got up, got dressed & waited @ the door for me. Was still rock hard & couldn't even pull my shorts up so told her to wait for a bit. Disappeared, & when I finally did go downstairs, she was waiting by the front door to let me out.Should have been angry, but the fact that she was so sexy to look @ plus the sheer pleasure of a hard fuck w/no concern about my partner (rare for me), got me quite excited. Would still go back to her again just for the nastiness of it.My rating:Face 9Body 10Sexy appearance 10Technique 5-6GFE 0
Gamma Ray 007
12-21-07, 00:47
I'll be visiting Tokyo for a couple of weeks and plan to visit the major strip theaters (not including the Roppongi-style rip-off clubs). I've put up a Google Maps listing at (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441bece037115a5454) These were all plotted from location data at Gensan's site (http://www.age.ne.jp/x/gensan/ti/index.shtml), and at least the Ueno Theater data was wildly inaccurate. At least one other was plotted in the middle of a busy intersection!I propose to carry my GPS and take careful plots on each of these locations and will--of course--post my experiences. Since Google Maps now allows collaboration, I would be happy to coordinate with anybody with similar interests to help add to this list, fix errors in the addresses (my knowledge of Japanese address formats is pretty useless), and generally pin down things geographically. Please send me a PM if you want to have edit privileges on the map, or just to pass along a great neighborhood strip club or other useful data.If this works out, maybe we can make a ISG/Google map mashup for other key locations oft mentioned but seldom found!
S She immediately pulled out from under me, yanked off the gum, & handed me wet tissues while she got up, got dressed & waited @ the door for me. Was still rock hard & couldn't even pull my shorts up so told her to wait for a bit. Disappeared, & when I finally did go downstairs, she was waiting by the front door to let me out.0She didn't even offer a second rounder? I don't know, she should've done a bit more and she would've gotten a repeated customer. Or more money. The girls these days.
Hi all,Long time no post. I am finally breaking down and going to Osaka(for the first time) for the New Years holiday. I notice that AM has two new girls there, Ran and Miki. I am just curious if anyone has had any experiences with either of the two? I have checked the other threads and I can't seem to find any info on them. If anyone has any info before I go it will be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.Jplover
Went to Yoshiwara today. From walking around for 30 minutes, I would say there are definitely different classes of soap there (stop me if you know this.). While the ones mentioned elsewhere on ISG (Playgirls, Academy) look incredible, there are definitely some more affordable options. Now that I'm home and looking at the sites of these places, there's some danger involved but with careful selection you may be able to avoid the 'mutton'. 'boilers'. 'nasty old women' that inevitably creep into people's descriptions of NY NY.Check out the sites for Chateau Petrus? Blue Lagoon and Idol. They have entry fees of JPY 10, 000 posted outside, and then JPY30, 000 on their web pages (which I think indicate the full price). Another place I stopped in to was the Landmark, which says 25, 000 outside and on the web, and the host confirmed it was 75, 000 (which indicates to me that I could have gone in if I wanted).I went to yet another place that lists the fee on its site as 35, 000 and on the sign outside as 10, 000, and that's inclusive. They would have picked me up but I walked, and they took me back (to Ueno). Drinks were free. The girl I had was a bit odd and her picture on the web had been heavily modified, but she was still workable, especially her body. She didn't speak English at all, but was chatty enough to keep things going with me. She had the attitude though. While she was washing me, she asked 'how many times do you usually have sex in one visit? ' I've only been to Thai soaps, so I said that in Thailand they often allow only one shot. She seemed surprised and said 'Well, any number of times is fine [with me]! ' You don't get that in Thailand, but it IS 6, 000 yen all in.Anyway, 35, 000 was definitely worth it. And there are definitely more places in that price range, and I'm sure they'll take foreigners if you call and ask nicely. In Japanese.
I took a long walk through a few months ago, too. Your assessment matches mine, in that there is a great variety of prices available. I eventually went into a bargain place and got serviced for Y21000 for 70 minutes, a very good deal for Yoshiwara but I had to do a lot of asking and taking rejection. Most of the cheaper places don't have a tout outside and you need to go in and speak to the tencho directly. I don't remember the name of the place because I don't plan to go back to Yoshiwara anytime soon because it's just too expensive and not really something I can afford that often.If you see another customer in there, don't even think about going in because you will be immediately shooed out. These places are quite discreet and they don't want customers seeing other customers, especially foreigners.It seems to me, the more you pay the skinnier and younger the lady. It seems proportional so if you're looking for a bargain, expect to get an older lady who is not in great shape. Service should be pretty good, though.You definitely need basic Japanese to go in and talk to tencho so I wouldn't waste time going without Japanese skills.
Went to Yoshiwara today. From walking around for 30 minutes, I would say there are definitely different classes of soap there (stop me if you know this.). While the ones mentioned elsewhere on ISG (Playgirls, Academy) look incredible, there are definitely some more affordable options. Now that I'm home and looking at the sites of these places, there's some danger involved but with careful selection you may be able to avoid the 'mutton'. 'boilers'. 'nasty old women' that inevitably creep into people's descriptions of NY NY.Check out the sites for Chateau Petrus? Blue Lagoon and Idol. They have entry fees of JPY 10, 000 posted outside, and then JPY30, 000 on their web pages (which I think indicate the full price). Another place I stopped in to was the Landmark, which says 25, 000 outside and on the web, and the host confirmed it was 75, 000 (which indicates to me that I could have gone in if I wanted).I went to yet another place that lists the fee on its site as 35, 000 and on the sign outside as 10, 000, and that's inclusive. They would have picked me up but I walked, and they took me back (to Ueno). Drinks were free. The girl I had was a bit odd and her picture on the web had been heavily modified, but she was still workable, especially her body. She didn't speak English at all, but was chatty enough to keep things going with me. She had the attitude though. While she was washing me, she asked 'how many times do you usually have sex in one visit? ' I've only been to Thai soaps, so I said that in Thailand they often allow only one shot. She seemed surprised and said 'Well, any number of times is fine [with me]! ' You don't get that in Thailand, but it IS 6, 000 yen all in.Anyway, 35, 000 was definitely worth it. And there are definitely more places in that price range, and I'm sure they'll take foreigners if you call and ask nicely. In Japanese.
Was in Tokyo couple of weeks back. First time in Tokyo and felt the urge to try out the local scene.Went out with some colleagues ( all gaijin) to Roppongi, but didn't like it much. I wouldn't go there fishing at all, maybe we went to the wrong places, but to me they all looked like expat rip-off.So finally, as my Japanese is non-existant contacted AM. Took a bit of calling back and forth because the girl I wanted was not available, and also my second choice wasn't there that day. Finally decided on Sayuri.Lady showed up exactly on time in the agreed place. Came in, kissed a bit ( all very GFE), payed agreed sum, sat on the bed, played a bit more, undressed, shower, play time. She stayed the full time, took shower and was on her merry way, leaving a happy customer behind.She's quite nice, I would guess her a couple of years younger than on the site, long nipples ( which I like), not to thin, just right.
The Whittmore
12-23-07, 15:57
I finally found some places to try. Took a trip into Tokyo to meet some people and went around to Sugamo, tried the BJ area. I went to the last one on the left (I don't remember the name, it was a climb up the stairs) and got an older-looking lady.She allowed some touching of the upper body but was plainly not enthusiastic about it, nor was she very good with the CBJ. I couldn't do it and she didn't seem to care; I left unhappy.Made my way back down the alley to the station, was enticed into jan jan. Got another older woman in a race queen outfit, which was promptly removed. I remember her having a tattoo of some sort.She cleaned me off and started going at it without a rubber, started easy and started moving up the intensity pretty regularly and encouraged me to touch her. I was surprised at how wet she was; I guess she lubed up before coming to the booth.I ended up doing the deed after ten minutes or so, and she wanted to know if I wanted to go again. It wasn't bad at all. I wish I'd gone there first.
I've only been to Thai soaps, so I said that in Thailand they often allow only one shot. She seemed surprised and said 'Well, any number of times is fine [with me]! ' You don't get that in Thailand, but it IS 6, 000 yen all in.Jack,Nice post about Yoshiwara. A little confused about the Thailand comment though. Never heard that before; and I've been to at least 20 Soaps there. Always been able to pop as many times as I could in the time alotted.Oh well, getting time to try a Soap here in Japan. Maybe that will be my Christmas present to myself.
The Whittmore
12-23-07, 17:18
As a side note, I expect to go to Tokyo sometime after Christmas to look around; will there be anything open between Christmas and New Years, or do shops start closing up for the holiday season?Also, I've been reading the posts for some time, and it seems like all of the in-shop providers listed are non-Japanese. I'm quite interested in experiencing a real Japanese woman for BJ or FS, does anyone know a relatively inexpensive place in Tokyo that they'd vouch for?Preferably not something like AM, since I don't feel up to using the phone or finding accomodations. I'd prefer to be able to go in, pay, try it out, and walk out without any hassles.
As a side note, I expect to go to Tokyo sometime after Christmas to look around; will there be anything open between Christmas and New Years, or do shops start closing up for the holiday season?Between Xmas and NY, you will find business as usual in Japan.However, don?t plan anything for January 1-4 or there about, because in the days after NY, Japan basically shuts down. There is really not much more you can do in those days other than going to temples and appease the gods for the new year.Hope that helps.
Also, I've been reading the posts for some time, and it seems like all of the in-shop providers listed are non-Japanese. I'm quite interested in experiencing a real Japanese woman for BJ or FS, does anyone know a relatively inexpensive place in Tokyo that they'd vouch for?Where did read that? If you had paid more attention, you would have noticed that in-shop providers in both BJ shops and soaplands are Japanese. The foreign providers are in the dingy slam-bang el cheapo FS places; that is a market segment that Japanese girls would avoid.Please read before asking questions based on false premises.
Hawaiiflyo
12-24-07, 09:43
I hope I am posting in the right area. I am planning my first trip to Tokyo this coming year and need some guidance. I am stationed in Okinawa and I frequent the RLDs (Yoshihara & Maehara) rather frequently. I am not too fond of the prices of the soapies in Oki (Tsuji District). I also do not go to jack shacks because the prices are basically the same as the RLDs. I've only used an ES once and I thought it was good but rather high. I tend to stay away from the philipina "juicy girls" over here also because of the love motel fees..and in my opinion they are not as enthusiastic or talented as the Japanese women. So I guess I am looking for FS and/or BBBJs in RLDs for a reasonable price. I have thought about trying ES again because I will be staying in a hotel, but I would rather go to the services. I've been reading around the Tokyo forums and you guys have posted a wealth of information..I still feel I need some guidance, so I don't get ripped off. Also Toyko is freakin' huge compared to what's available in Okinawa. I have actually pulled of "Japanese only" girls because I am Hawaiian and can speak broken Japanese to get my point across. I am all ears for suggestions, where to stay, etc. (I haven't booked tickets, hotel accommodations). Any advice you guys give would be great.
The Whittmore
12-24-07, 13:31
Where did read that? If you had paid more attention, you would have noticed that in-shop providers in both BJ shops and soaplands are Japanese. The foreign providers are in the dingy slam-bang el cheapo FS places; that is a market segment that Japanese girls would avoid.Please read before asking questions based on false premises.I apologize, then. I remember several instances of people saying that providers were new to the country or didn't speak Japanese. Soaplands don't really seem "inexpensive", which is what I was asking about. I thought I'd also read something that referred to a provider in Sugamo not being Japanese. Of course, the Kawasaki booths referred to so often seem to have only non-Japanese providers.I know that my experiences with FS over 10000 yen have yielded only non-Japanese people in Gunma, as well.So from all of that, I've been assuming that most providers here are non-Japanese women. Apologies if I offended, which I seem to have done.
II know that my experiences with FS over 10000 yen have yielded only non-Japanese people in Gunma, as well.Over 10,000 Yen is still el cheapo here. Of course, if you set your sights so low, then yes, you are right.
This is my first post but I've been reading for a while.I was wondering if anyone else uses the freelance boards?For those who are not aware of them, there are a lot of boards where freelances posts ads for "support" in exchange for services. Anything from selling dirty underwear to FS. An interesting thing I have noticed is that 90% offer FS, but 50% or less will offer BJ & Kiss.From the few boards I'm looking at, it seems that the board for plump girls has the cheapest and most willing girls. A lot offer FS, BJ, etc for 1.5Some go as low as 5000yen for all. I've sent out 6 messages stating I'm a foreigner and be interested in meeting and got 3 positive responses and 3 no-reply which could mean they got booked on that day, or won't do foreigners.I've also gotten 2 reply to my own ad offering to give support.The girl I did meet was 18, did everything and only asked for 10,000 Yen, which was a bargain!Anyway, I'm interested in sharing stories and URLs for those in the know.You need to read/write fluent Japanese anyways.!Cheers,David
This is my first post but I've been reading for a while.I was wondering if anyone else uses the freelance boards?For those who are not aware of them, there are a lot of boards where freelances posts ads for "support" in exchange for services. Anything from selling dirty underwear to FS. An interesting thing I have noticed is that 90% offer FS, but 50% or less will offer BJ & Kiss.From the few boards I'm looking at, it seems that the board for plump girls has the cheapest and most willing girls. A lot offer FS, BJ, etc for 1.5Some go as low as 5000yen for all. I've sent out 6 messages stating I'm a foreigner and be interested in meeting and got 3 positive responses and 3 no-reply which could mean they got booked on that day, or won't do foreigners.I've also gotten 2 reply to my own ad offering to give support.The girl I did meet was 18, did everything and only asked for 10,000 Yen, which was a bargain!Anyway, I'm interested in sharing stories and URLs for those in the know.You need to read/write fluent Japanese anyways.!Cheers,DavidI use them, and I have gotten results from them. But in my experience, I have to send a lot more messages out than just 6, so I can?t confirm the hit ratio. Although I would agree that on a board specifically for plump girls, it is probably better (if you like that, you in the Briar`s Patch in Japan).One downside is that "suppo" is not all that much cheaper than e.g. AM (most girls ask for at least "@3" (the at mark means man), and often they tend to over-estimate how attractive they look. So, it is kind of a gamble. And writing all the message and weeding out the inevitable spam is also not without effort, so there is no free lunch.
Evan Stoner
12-26-07, 06:58
I was wondering if anyone else uses the freelance boards?I have to admit I am curious. Can you give some examples of the freelance boards you are referring to? I am a proponent of the English-language sites (World Friends, Japan Cupid, et al) but have not tried the locals yet (unless you count Dream Realize, which I wouldn't).
I have to admit I am curious. Can you give some examples of the freelance boards you are referring to? I am a proponent of the English-language sites (World Friends, Japan Cupid, et al) but have not tried the locals yet (unless you count Dream Realize, which I wouldn't).You can find hundreds by googling for Japanese keywords like "パパ募集".Anyway, here is one that is always busy:http : // deai.to / cgi-bin / mailbbs / mailbbs2.cgiBut Japanese language ability is necessary here. These girls don`t expect gaijin on the these boards. In fact, the typical response from a girl on these boards is something like "Hontoni gaijin desu ka?"(As opposed to the scammers. They will respond with a long, pre-composed message, asking you to register at some other sight to look at her photo. Yeah, right...)
I ventured out to Sugamo on Christmas day for a small Christmas treat for myself. I've been 2 other times, last shop on the left (not impressed), and one of the kaiten places in the middle (really dirty but interesting). After reading some of the reports about Jan Jan, I thought I would check it out. It's the last shop on the right and the name is written in Katakana (? ) with VIP on the sign as well. The tout was very smiley and welcoming, and this was about 1:30 in the afternoon. Manager took my 3k and showed me to my seat and brought some tea while I waited.I was the only person in the shop at the time, and they were playing an interesting mix of Christmas techno remixes for the day. About 5 minutes later the girl comes to my booth and we make some small talk, mixed English and Japanese. She said her name was Mari, 26 years old, and from Tochigi near Nikko, and said I was the first for the day. She took her top off and leaned over hesitated for a moment and starting kissing me, and it really had the GFE kind of experience from the start (maybe similar to Supergirls, though I've never been). She didn't rush to get my pants down and took her time kissing to get warmed up. During all this her hands were everywhere as well as mine, really felt like being in high school making out in a car. After about 5 minutes she started undoing my pants for me and pulled them down. After the standard wipe down with a warm towel. She proceeded to initiate more kissing and hand action. She slowly worked her way down and started with BBBJ, slow at first, in no hurry to finish. Didn't pick up the pace till I encouraged it. CIM, then she cleaned me up, told me to wait a minute, and she came back for a little cuddling and talking. Worked out to be about 30 minutes with her, then she showed me to the door, said Merry Christmas and I was off. So to wrap it up, I'd say her face was a 6, kind of round which I like, body a 5 or 6, a little chubby, but nice B-cup breasts that were very perky, and service 8.Another customer had come in during my time, and I could see the girl on my way out. A little curvy, but certainly not fat. I look forward to going back sometime and maybe seeing Mari again.EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
You can find hundreds by googling for Japanese keywords like "パパ募集".Anyway, here is one that is always busy:http : // deai.to / cgi-bin / mailbbs / mailbbs2.cgiBut Japanese language ability is necessary here. These girls don`t expect gaijin on the these boards. In fact, the typical response from a girl on these boards is something like "Hontoni gaijin desu ka?"(As opposed to the scammers. They will respond with a long, pre-composed message, asking you to register at some other sight to look at her photo. Yeah, right...)Yeah, I tried one of those boards and contacted 3 different women in my area. Only one responded, and she/he was a spammer, directing me to look at a photo on some scam website, as Nino describes. And I noticed that most do cost as much or more than DH and most won't kiss or do nama fera, which you're pretty much guaranteed with DH service.
Yeah, I tried one of those boards and contacted 3 different women in my area. Only one responded, and she/he was a spammer, directing me to look at a photo on some scam website, as Nino describes.The rule of the thumb is: If the ad sounds too good to be true, is is most likely a scammer. Actually, after a while, you get quite good in spotting them right away.
And I noticed that most do cost as much or more than DHTrue. Usually, they "hope" for "@3", i.e. 30,000, or more. Sometimes you see girls hoping for @10 or more. I hope they are worth it.
and most won't kiss or do nama fera, which you're pretty much guaranteed with DH service.Sorry, that is not true. I have never "no kissing" or "no nama fera" mentioned on the board, except in the occasional message from under-age school girls that creep in. And of course kissing and nama fera are on the menu if you make a private deai date. Where`d you get the idea from it would not?Sorry, I have to pull rank here. I have experience with deai sites (especially with this one), and your last statement is incorrect.
Sorry, that is not true. I have never "no kissing" or "no nama fera" mentioned on the board, except in the occasional message from under-age school girls that creep in. And of course kissing and nama fera are on the menu if you make a private deai date. Where`d you get the idea from it would not?Sorry, I have to pull rank here. I have experience with deai sites (especially with this one), and your last statement is incorrect.Actually, I'd say that the no kiss no BJ is quite frequent.It seems that a lot of girl are more willing to do FS than BJ.
The Whittmore
12-27-07, 12:40
Anyway, here is one that is always busy:http : // deai.to / cgi-bin / mailbbs / mailbbs2.cgiI tried that one, but none of the form buttons seem to work. I always get a "not found" error, no matter what browser I use.
Saint Of Killers
12-27-07, 20:25
You can find hundreds by googling for Japanese keywords like "パパ募集".Anyway, here is one that is always busy:http : // deai.to / cgi-bin / mailbbs / mailbbs2.cgiBut Japanese language ability is necessary here. These girls don`t expect gaijin on the these boards. In fact, the typical response from a girl on these boards is something like "Hontoni gaijin desu ka?"(As opposed to the scammers. They will respond with a long, pre-composed message, asking you to register at some other sight to look at her photo. Yeah, right...)For this site, do you have to be in Japan to send comments? I live in Kansai but right now I'm overseas for Christmas, and there was some girl that I actually saw that I wanted to mail, but the site won't let me, saying the comment has been refused. It doesn't give me any indication of why it's been rejected either.
For this site, do you have to be in Japan to send comments? I live in Kansai but right now I'm overseas for Christmas, and there was some girl that I actually saw that I wanted to mail, but the site won't let me, saying the comment has been refused. It doesn't give me any indication of why it's been rejected either.No idea. It works fine for me, and yes, I am in Tokyo. As a general rule, you should not get too fixated with one particular message on board like this. Most girls are not interested in gajin anyway, so you?ll have to respond to a lot of messages before you get a bite. (The scammer, of course, respond always. Any message that asks you to go to another site, you should ditch immediately.)Naturally, you can improve your chances vastly by offering more than @3. The sky is the limit :-)
Hey guys . . . hope eveyone is havign a good holiday.While in the States I rarely use craigslist, becuase of all of the scams and what not, I occasionally do check the Tokyo ones to see whats going on.I noticed two post:http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/517594416.htmlolder chick in her 40's, but 20K for 2 hours.http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/519431497.htmlSome 23 year old who does this on the side and tells you to email her for her website. The website is: http://hamq.jp/i.cfm?i=aichaescortAfter reading it I felt like she charges way to much and did not get a good vibe.If anyone knows anything about these girls it would be nice if you could fill me in. If not, I am willing to step up to the plate and take one for the team fon the 40 year old, however, I think I may want to see more pics of her.Also just curious has anyone ever had the girl arrive and she be so not what you wanted that you just said good-bye and not pay the cancelation fee??I did it once in the US becuase the girl was so not what I expected.Thanks for the good info.
Most girls are not interested in gajin anywayI dunno 'bout that. When I walk ANY street in Japan, I get 95% eye contact from all the women there. I think the exact opposite, if free from the Japanese males, they'll run away with, date, stay with, be committed to a "foreigner" ASAP. Whatever it takes.Then again, I speak the language and know what to say to a Japanese woman. ;)Gyaos.
Big Boy 29
12-29-07, 00:08
Hey guys . . . hope eveyone is havign a good holiday.While in the States I rarely use craigslist, becuase of all of the scams and what not, I occasionally do check the Tokyo ones to see whats going on.I noticed two post:http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/517594416.htmlolder chick in her 40's, but 20K for 2 hours.http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/519431497.htmlSome 23 year old who does this on the side and tells you to email her for her website. The website is: http://hamq.jp/i.cfm?i=aichaescortAfter reading it I felt like she charges way to much and did not get a good vibe.If anyone knows anything about these girls it would be nice if you could fill me in. If not, I am willing to step up to the plate and take one for the team fon the 40 year old, however, I think I may want to see more pics of her.Also just curious has anyone ever had the girl arrive and she be so not what you wanted that you just said good-bye and not pay the cancelation fee??I did it once in the US becuase the girl was so not what I expected.Thanks for the good info.Hey Kiyomori,Yea, I know her, I used to fuck her for free. I guess she needs money now so she is selling herself. She ok for a 47 year old women, but she has very small tits. She is from Chiba and by the way she does anal & will fuck outdoors.
Hey guys . . . hope eveyone is havign a good holiday.While in the States I rarely use craigslist, becuase of all of the scams and what not, I occasionally do check the Tokyo ones to see whats going on.I noticed two post:http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/517594416.htmlolder chick in her 40's, but 20K for 2 hours.http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/519431497.htmlSome 23 year old who does this on the side and tells you to email her for her website. The website is: http://hamq.jp/i.cfm?i=aichaescortAfter reading it I felt like she charges way to much and did not get a good vibe.If anyone knows anything about these girls it would be nice if you could fill me in. If not, I am willing to step up to the plate and take one for the team fon the 40 year old, however, I think I may want to see more pics of her.Also just curious has anyone ever had the girl arrive and she be so not what you wanted that you just said good-bye and not pay the cancelation fee??I did it once in the US becuase the girl was so not what I expected.Thanks for the good info.The young one is Aicha, you can see her photo on the Girls-directory without password. (Too skinny for my taste)If you take the plunge with the older one, do report back! It sounds interesting.
Big Boy 29
12-29-07, 12:34
Hey guys . . . hope eveyone is havign a good holiday.While in the States I rarely use craigslist, becuase of all of the scams and what not, I occasionally do check the Tokyo ones to see whats going on.I noticed two post:http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/517594416.htmlolder chick in her 40's, but 20K for 2 hours.http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/519431497.htmlSome 23 year old who does this on the side and tells you to email her for her website. The website is: http://hamq.jp/i.cfm?i=aichaescortAfter reading it I felt like she charges way to much and did not get a good vibe.If anyone knows anything about these girls it would be nice if you could fill me in. If not, I am willing to step up to the plate and take one for the team fon the 40 year old, however, I think I may want to see more pics of her.Also just curious has anyone ever had the girl arrive and she be so not what you wanted that you just said good-bye and not pay the cancelation fee??I did it once in the US becuase the girl was so not what I expected.Thanks for the good info.Sorry, forgot to put up the pics.
Big Boy 29
12-29-07, 12:41
Hey guys . . . hope eveyone is havign a good holiday.While in the States I rarely use craigslist, becuase of all of the scams and what not, I occasionally do check the Tokyo ones to see whats going on.I noticed two post:http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/517594416.htmlolder chick in her 40's, but 20K for 2 hours.http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/519431497.htmlSome 23 year old who does this on the side and tells you to email her for her website. The website is: http://hamq.jp/i.cfm?i=aichaescortAfter reading it I felt like she charges way to much and did not get a good vibe.If anyone knows anything about these girls it would be nice if you could fill me in. If not, I am willing to step up to the plate and take one for the team fon the 40 year old, however, I think I may want to see more pics of her.Also just curious has anyone ever had the girl arrive and she be so not what you wanted that you just said good-bye and not pay the cancelation fee??I did it once in the US becuase the girl was so not what I expected.Thanks for the good info.Okay, I think I upload them this time.
Have not heard definitively from any of the forum members and the website has been down for a while. Also, what are the prices?
Okay, I think I upload them this time.So what... the pics show the old one? Looks quite good to me.
Michael 1973
12-30-07, 11:12
Hey guys,Thanks for the post. Are there any other sites to meet girls? For money or even for encounter?Please share.Does anyone know girls who meet private or in love hotel; for money maybe?Michael
Michael 1973
12-31-07, 14:46
Hi, Ty for good reports. I know sugamsa little. Yeah strange place. I will try janjan next time. And maybe that strawberry FS place.Where are good places wich not only cover BBBJ and CIM, which also include kissing the girl. I like that a lot.I loved seiki 21 too bad its gone log time.Michael
Hey guys,Thanks for the post. Are there any other sites to meet girls? For money or even for encounter?Please share.Does anyone know girls who meet private or in love hotel; for money maybe?MichaelGood grief Michael, what do you think people are talking about here? Read the forum, and come back if you have specific question.
Hey guys,Does anyone know girls who meet private or in love hotel; for money maybe?MichaelJust ask any girl on the Uguisudani station platform.Gyaos.
Just ask any girl on the Uguisudani station platform.Gyaos.Gyaos and nino please leave the virgin alone................ThanksTopos
Hi guys, I'll be staying in a hotel located in Shibuya and I just wanted to know what should I experience while I'm here. I've been reading a couple threads / posts / websites regarding Image / Massage / Esute. I was wondering whats a must do? Can you guys recommend places in Shibuya? Thanks
Bar Pillar
01-02-08, 07:25
Has anyone tried her yet? I have an appointment with her tomorrow. Any advance intel would be appreciated. Unless I hear something fucked up I will see her for sure--and I will post my review.
I Fucked Haruhi
01-02-08, 10:04
Have not heard definitively from any of the forum members and the website has been down for a while. Also, what are the prices?Yes, of course it still open, both the shinjuku and ikebukuro branches.The website is still up!http://www.hinomaru-caba.com/Its 8000yen or 10k if you choose the girl.
Has anyone tried her yet? I have an appointment with her tomorrow. Any advance intel would be appreciated. Unless I hear something fucked up I will see her for sure--and I will post my review.I just looked up you website and if it`s a girl named Hikaru you are going to see ￥35,000 for 1 hour is very expensive when you could have 2 hours with a AM girl for a special rate of I think ￥32,000 before the 4th of January.AM girls have a good reputation here personally sampled by myself, good english and conversation.just login and take a look www.asianmystique.com the staff are very helpfull.Or you could try clubboo www.clubboo.jp but I have not tried thier service yet.Topos
The Special One
01-02-08, 10:58
I just looked up you website and if it`s a girl named Hikaru you are going to see ￥35,000 for 1 hour is very expensive when you could have 2 hours with a AM girl for a special rate of I think ￥32,000 before the 4th of January.AM girls have a good reputation here personally sampled by myself, good english and conversation.just login and take a look www.asianmystique.com the staff are very helpfull.Or you could try clubboo www.clubboo.jp but I have not tried thier service yet.ToposShe's also got links to Alla on her site, which is enough to make me suspicious.Will be curious to see your review, bar pillar. Have you had a phone conversation with the girl? Are you seeing Sakura or Hikaru?
I just looked up you website and if it`s a girl named Hikaru you are going to see ￥35,000 for 1 hour is very expensive when you could have 2 hours with a AM girl for a special rate of I think ￥32,000 before the 4th of January.Huh??? Did you look at the website he posted? It is an independent, she calls herself Sakura, and wants 40,000 for 2 hours. Not that much more than AM.I don`t think anyone here has reported on her (she hasn`t been around that long, either). The photos look nice, so I am waiting for Bar Pillars report.No idea what website Topos stumbled into...
The Special One
01-02-08, 12:48
Huh??? Did you look at the website he posted? It is an independent, she calls herself Sakura, and wants 40,000 for 2 hours. Not that much more than AM.I don`t think anyone here has reported on her (she hasn`t been around that long, either). The photos look nice, so I am waiting for Bar Pillars report.No idea what website Topos stumbled into...Sakura has a link on her page for her friend, hikaru. They're both on the same geocities site. I'm also curious for Bar Pillar's report, as the Alla link that she has on her links page immediately renders suspicious to me.
Michael 1973
01-02-08, 13:12
Here a report from me.I have been to Hinomaru in Shinjuku.Deal 8000 for 40min.Girl was ok and talked nice. BBBJ and CIM where good but no kissing and only touching tits and manko through pants.Deal OK but think Sugamo offers similar for less money.I have been often to Sugamo to the place with 4 girls for 4000. Sometimes good sometimes bad. Its luck but cheap and BBBJ and CIM. Both in 69Will soon definatly try JanJan.
Tried her a few weeks ago. Set up an appt to meet in Shibuya but she never showed. Hope you have better luck. Please report back!
Huh??? Did you look at the website he posted? It is an independent, she calls herself Sakura, and wants 40,000 for 2 hours. Not that much more than AM.I don`t think anyone here has reported on her (she hasn`t been around that long, either). The photos look nice, so I am waiting for Bar Pillars report.No idea what website Topos stumbled into...NINO Buddy you caught me out.............yes to be honest I googled that website address and picked the first site on the list, which brings up Haruka another independant.........I have just typed that address directly and it is Sakura I have been in contact with Sakura by her direct email address, but ￥40,000 + Hotel fee I was considering her.Unfortunately AM special is the last day tommorrow ￥32,000 + hotel.well spotted Nino!!! keeping me honest.Oh by the way if you google that address Haruka`s address is the same except for the last name / haruka.............so there may be many independants out there.PPS Yes bar Pillars report on her will be of some interest to me as well..................Sorry bar but you seem the test jocky for this one.
NINO Buddy you caught me out.............yes to be honest I googled that website address and picked the first site on the list, which brings up Haruka another independant.........I have just typed that address directly and it is Sakura I have been in contact with Sakura by her direct email address, but ￥40,000 + Hotel fee I was considering her.I find it odd that you have to google this address, in particular since you already were in e-mail contact with this girl and posted about that last month:http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=674408&postcount=4173Well, who am I am to speculate as to what goes on in posters minds.
I find it odd that you have to google this address, in particular since you already were in e-mail contact with this girl and posted about that last month:http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=674408&postcount=4173Well, who am I am to speculate as to what goes on in posters minds.Umm when I googled it, I did not know it was the same girl as her name was not displayed.And bar pillar did not mention her by name just said this girl.Thus I got the other girl.Topos
Yea, I know her, I used to fuck her for free. I guess she needs money now so she is selling herself. She ok for a 47 year old women, but she has very small tits. She is from Chiba and by the way she does anal & will fuck outdoors.Given that she is actually younger than me, and I like small tits, I'm considering meeting with her. May I ask you if you recommend her? or should I just cough up more money and go with a younger independent? Also did you find her to be clean and safe?
Okay so I met with Yumiko, the older one, yesterday and here is my report.I had emailed her about three times and got her cell email. She said in her email she would go greek for an extra 10k, but that if I was to big or if it was to painful she would just stop and just let me have the money back. I just optioned not to do it as to not go through that hassle.So I get the love hotel and she meets me there. The pics are about dead on has a pretty decent body but is probably about 42-45. I did not ask her age, I figured she would probably lie anyways. She is not bad for an older looking girl.We talked a little, her English is not all that great so we mostly spoke in Japanese, she asked if I wanted the greek and told her no, I did not want to hurt her and kill the mood. Actually, I am just cheap. I put the cash on the dresser and it started.We both went into the shower where she bathed me then bathed herself. There was some groping action and we did make out a little. Then dried off went to the bed were we acted like some high school kids and made out and touched each other. She then did a HJ/BBBJ. It was an okay BJ not the best, but okay. Next put the rain coat on and went from mish, doggie, to cg. End of round 1.She asked me if I wanted a massage and gave a good one. Got hard again and then went back at it. DATY, then gave me a BBBJ, cg, spoon, to doggie. End of round 2.After that we just talked and gave me a nice massage again. Showered and owaru.This is the first escort I have ever tried here in Japan so I am basing this on my experience back in the States.GFE: 8. She definitely put forth the effort.Looks: 7. For someone her age she was good looking, but I would of preferred an older women, Overall: 7. I have been reading the forums a lot and pricing girls. I think that 20k for 2 hours and what I got was a pretty good deal. However, I would caution you that if you do not like older women then go with a younger chick or someone else. I felt like on one level she was basically non-pro and very amateurish, but she really did put forth a good effort and knew how to screw. There is a part of me that does wish though that I did pay the extra 12k and gone with one of the AM girls as I have heard so much about them though.I posted 2 pics she sent me that are not great quality, but shows her body.I hope this helps out guys. Later on this week I will be going over to Jan Jan. And will post my report. I am a little confused on exactly where it is, I know it's the last one on the street, but I am sure I can find it.EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Here a report from me.I have been to Hinomaru in Shinjuku.Deal 8000 for 40min.Girl was ok and talked nice. BBBJ and CIM where good but no kissing and only touching tits and manko through pants.Deal OK but think Sugamo offers similar for less money.I have been often to Sugamo to the place with 4 girls for 4000. Sometimes good sometimes bad. Its luck but cheap and BBBJ and CIM. Both in 69Will soon definatly try JanJan.Can you please identify which specific one has more than 1 girl servicing you? Are there specific times that this is more likely to be available?
Bar Pillar
01-04-08, 01:46
My Fellow Mongers, Here is my anticipated review of Sakura aka tokyoplaygirl. Her pics are accurate and I definitely found her attractive. She is quite tall and definitley curvy. I felt like I was banging a hot basketball player or volleyball player. She has a very nice personality. She speaks english well. She gives great bbj. She is not into anal--but didn't mind a little fingerplay in the ole browneye. She got a GREAT ASS. I would definitely recommend her if you like big girls. I asked her about her friend hikaru and if its true 3p. She said they don't go down on each other but they do kiss and suck tities. The only issue is she is a bit slow to reply to emails.
OldAsiaHand
01-04-08, 05:10
Can you please identify which specific one has more than 1 girl servicing you? Are there specific times that this is more likely to be available?I've been in the second place on the left and had 3 girls (one after the other) for 3,000. I specifically asked about this when I went in. I don't think you can change girls until you pop and you only get 30 minutes. I could not manage to pop the 3rd time so I am not sure if they would have sent a 4th or not.I believe that it depends on how many girls are on duty at the time and how busy they are. You may want to try in the late afternoon.Just my POV.OAH
OldAsiaHand
01-04-08, 05:35
Yes, of course it still open, both the shinjuku and ikebukuro branches.The website is still up!http://www.hinomaru-caba.com/Its 8000yen or 10k if you choose the girl.I would like to check out this place next time in Tokyo. Is it gaijin friendly? Are the girls all J-girls? Some of the photos on the website look like Chinese girls.Thanks.OAH
Michael 1973
01-04-08, 10:23
Can you please identify which specific one has more than 1 girl servicing you? Are there specific times that this is more likely to be available?Its last on left I think and same if you go first shop left, there you get coupon and go to last shop on left. I think not sure. Tell you if I have been there again.
My Fellow Mongers, Here is my anticipated review of Sakura aka tokyoplaygirl. Her pics are accurate and I definitely found her attractive. She is quite tall and definitley curvy. I felt like I was banging a hot basketball player or volleyball player. She has a very nice personality. She speaks english well. She gives great bbj. She is not into anal--but didn't mind a little fingerplay in the ole browneye. She got a GREAT ASS. I would definitely recommend her if you like big girls. I asked her about her friend hikaru and if its true 3p. She said they don't go down on each other but they do kiss and suck tities. The only issue is she is a bit slow to reply to emails.Thanks for the report. If the pics are accurate, she is quite a looker!What is her policy on CIM? I always like that option when I am lazy.
I Fucked Haruhi
01-04-08, 13:54
I would like to check out this place next time in Tokyo. Is it gaijin friendly? Are the girls all J-girls? Some of the photos on the website look like Chinese girls.Thanks.OAHYep, they are very gaijin friendly.All the girls are japanese. I speak japanese so I talk to them, most of them have been very friendly and nice.I like the place, it's not the cheapest salon around but if you've got the money to spend, go for it
Hey guys,This site is filled with a lot of great information, but I`ve still yet to see any posts of `Deai Cafes`.I was wondering which would be more investable. Paying for a round at a Deai Cafe, or just going to your regular place Health, Pink, etc.For does of you who do not know what a Deai Cafe is here`s a link to another forum, which is dead, that I posted the info.http://www.*************.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35872 . . . . So basically, what would you do? Spend 12,000Yen on untimed and unlimited service (As far as I know so far), or just do what everyone else does.Please get back to me on this, I will answer further questions about `Deai Cafes`, and also tell me if something is wrong about the info I`ve already provided.
OK. So I have used AM on several occasions in the past and have been pretty satisfied. After hearing the rave reviews about Manami, I decided to give it a go. It was between her and Erika, but I thought if I`m paying, I might as well have a real `pro` experience. DAMN! You guy`s weren`t kidding! MANAMI has the absolute best service ethic. If you are going to monger, this woman will make you feel like your not paying at all!Now for the review: So we meet up in Shibuya and right off the bat, you can tell she is confident, mature and has a level of intelligence that really made me feel at ease. We chatted as we walked to the Love Hotel, once we get in the room, it`s like a switch was flipped and she gets very touchy. Just like an old flame that`s been dying to see me. We make out for a bit, the clothes slowly come off, as we make our way to the bed. She asks if I want to shower, but I prefer a little lingerie foreplay. Eventually I`m naked and she`s in her panties. We dry hump like high schoolers and then I use my hand on her until she cums. She starts grabbing my cock and asks me "are you TRYING to tease me?" Then she moves on to BBBJ, She let me CIM and then spit all over continued with a post coital HJ. We lay there talking for awhile and then she pulls out the lube and says "Let`s do Sumata!" She continues with the sumata in various positions, I was still struggling to recover my strength, sensing this, she goes back down to a BBBJ. Gentlemen, It was gloriously sloppy, messy. The lube and come were all over her chin and hair and a puddle was building under my balls. She furiously sucked, slurped and and massaged me as if someone told her "There`s Gold in them there balls!"When I came, it was like nothing I`d ever experienced. We talked a bit more, and she tried AGAIN grinning and saying "ready for round 3?". But alas, I was down for the count. Now most of you and even myself would normally think "Damn, that was an expensive pair of blowjobs!" But she truly made it all worthwhile. We talked about quite a few subjects, Don`t know if this is bad manners, but I told her about our little community here and how well reviewed she was. She seemed quite modest about it and it really seems she does the work because she loves the sex and amount of free time it provides her. Keep in mind Your Mileage May Vary. I read other reports about no CIM and BBBJ. I think it just might depend on the vibe. Show up clean and looking good and treat her nice and you might be suprised. After the play time, we went to the shower and she methodically and gently washed my whole body for me. We talked about everything from Japanese Cinema, Culture and Psychology. I FELT LIKE I HIRED A GEISHA. She told me that her grandmother was a geisha. She also kept trying to get me to go one more round. On the way to the station she said she felt bad she couldn`t give me more service, That`s how good her ethic is boys. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. I learned quite a few personal details but not sure if it`s appropriate to divulge. Be safe out there boys.
Big Boy 29
01-05-08, 12:07
Given that she is actually younger than me, and I like small tits, I'm considering meeting with her. May I ask you if you recommend her? or should I just cough up more money and go with a younger independent? Also did you find her to be clean and safe?She was clean and safe when I know (before she started selling her). Would I recommend her: Yes, if you like older women.
Well today I went to Jan Jan today. After so many good reviews I figured I needed to go there. I first made the mistake of going out the right side of the station exit when you need to go left. After that it is pretty easy to find. Just head towards the street with 4 lights handing above it.So I got in gave the guy the money got taken to my seat and sat down. There was a guy in the both in front of me and I could tell the girl was topless. And then she just disappeared. They were bumping this crazy dance music that I think actually does less for the atmosphere then adding to it. So after waiting 10 minutes the girl shows up and she asks me to take my pants off and wants to clean me up. I tried to talk to her and found out her name was Aki (No. 20) and she did not speak a word of English. She could not of been older then 20. After cleaning me up she slid the top off her dress and took off her panties and slid her dress up. She started making out with me and motioned for me to fondle her tits. I asked her if it was okay to pet her kitty and she said okay, however, after I started to rub her clit she motioned for me to hold on to her boobs. She sucked me off and changed positions twice to suck me. After about 15 minutes I CIM and she cleaned me up. Came back later talk to me a little and wanted to know why I was in Japan and gave me her card. Owaru! The make out session was really nice and she could actually kiss very well. That got my blood really pumping. Her tits were really saggy for someone her age and she had a lot of loose skin, which leads me to believe that she must have lost a decent amount of weight. The BJ itself was not all that great I do not think she ever went past the head and her stroking motion did not help.Body: 6Face: 4 (she had some really jacked up teach)Performance: 4 (however, the kissing was really nice)Overall: 4/5I felt kind of let down and thought things might have been a little better after reading all the postiive reviews. Her technique was terrible and if it had been better I could of easily gotten over the rest. Though, despite this bad experience my first time, I am going to try it again because I think I just got a girl who just plain sucked. And not just on me.But, to put things in perspective, if I was back home in LA and was trying to pick up a SW off of Figueroa it would of easily cost me more then 3k and I would have to worry about LE, grabbing the cash and running, or getting robbed. Still the 3k is worth it in my opinion.Just curious, two other guys motioned for me to come over to there places. Are these places generally worst then Jan Jan?
I read some old post and saw some info on SW near Shin Okubo. However, this was a long time back. I was wondering if anyone has had any experiences with SW in Tokyo and what the service was like and cost.Thanks!
OldAsiaHand
01-06-08, 04:42
Any recommendations for which girl to select?
Yep, they are very gaijin friendly.All the girls are japanese. I speak japanese so I talk to them, most of them have been very friendly and nice.I like the place, it's not the cheapest salon around but if you've got the money to spend, go for it
I Fucked Haruhi
01-06-08, 12:15
Any recommendations for which girl to select?To be honest, I've not had a problem with any of the girls there, I went today infact and had a girl I've not been with before, she asked to do full sex with me, with a condom. Some do that instead of BJ'sJust try and see what you think.
90% speculation follows, anyone who really knows please enlighten us.To the best of my knowledge the money you lay down before you even leave the deai cafe is gone and counts for nothing.As I understand it once you get the girl outside you can start figuring out how much she wants and for what service. I would imagine it dependsA: the extent to which she takes a personal liking to you andB: just how big her financial ambitions are.I would imagine the post cafe cost will run between 10, 000 and 50, 000 and could involve anything from from a hand-job in a back alley, to a full night of progressive sexually activities.I went in one the other day for the 1st time and the rules were very clear and strict (in Japanese) that until you were outside of the establishment you are not to even imply that sex will take place. No touching, keep conversation clean etc.For what it's worth I was just bored and curious and only had another 6000 yen in my wallet so I didn't even attempt to make full use of their services.I think the whole scene is new enough and with enough diffusion of responsibility that until some gaijin really behave badly most deai cafe will still let in gaijin who have 1/2 decent manners and reasonable Japanese ability.
I was out in Machida this evening, and decided to take a stroll through the love motel district outside of the south exit. During the summer I had walked through one evening and saw 3 or 4 ladies working, and only one approached me. Tonight was a completely different story. It was about 10: 40p. M. And walked from the south end of the main love motel street, starts near a church, all the way up and across the bridge. During my walk 4 girls approached me, and a few girls made strong eye contact. The ones I talked to were offering service for 5-6k + love motel fee. There were probably 20 girls out, and they were all Chinese. Looks ranged from 5. 8, and ages were around mid 20's to mid 30's. No grandmothers: D There was one girl on the bridge who grabbed my arm and stopped me to talk. She was kind of pushy, and kept saying yasui, iku iku. I have a feeling some of these girls can certainly be negotiated down. A lot of them were hanging out at the entrances to the love motels, so I wonder if they have a deal worked out where they get part of the room fee as well. I didn't have time, or the cash on me to experience any of the action. I'll probably give it a proper try in a couple weeks when I go back, and hopefully not so late in the evening. If anyone has been here or will go soon, please post some reviews.
i was out in machida this evening, and decided to take a stroll through the love motel district outside of the south exit. during the summer i had walked through one evening and saw 3 or 4 ladies working, and only one approached mei have been there many times, i used to have a regular one there but have not seen her for a while (spotted her at the visa office one day).anyway when i have been there, and just watching, some get quite agressive in getting the punter into the hotel, and yes recently there have been some younger ones.about 2 years ago there were booths further down but the locals complained and one got torched so they pulled them down, now a new appartment complex is being built there.there are a few older ones close to 40 i guess, never tried the older ones, they seem too agressive for me, if your planning to go down let me know, if i`m free may head down the same night.they usually only come out after dark anyway, sometime le drive through and they rep001ter for 5 minutes, but soon will be back.topos
She was clean and safe when I know (before she started selling her). Would I recommend her: Yes, if you like older women.I met with Yumiko tonight and the same as Big Boy 29 would reccomend her to all members.One point if you treat her well you will get it back 10 fold man she loves to fuck, and gives a great service.She is also NOT a clock watcher, I got well beyond the 2 hours she advertises.For the senior members contact me for her contact detailsTopos
Really Now
01-07-08, 01:14
[QUOTE=Topos]I met with Yumiko tonight and the same as Big Boy 29 would reccomend her to all members.Appears she's got a profile on AFF as coconutparadise2, listed in the Chiba area. AFF=Adult Friendfinder. If this is not the same gal, let me know and I'll delete this post.
We lay there talking for awhile and then she pulls out the lube and says "Let`s do Sumata!" She continues with the sumata in various positions, I was still struggling to recover my strength, sensing this, she goes back down to a BBBJ. I'm not sure if I've read anything to the contrary elsewhere, but is AM usually FS, or is it YMMV?I think next time I'm over there, I'm going to want to try anal with Tamaki and possibly some time with Yumika as well.
Anybody try contacting club boo by e-mail, and does she answer? Trying to researve girl in advance, but am getting no reply.Any advice?
I`ve heard bad things about this place in the past, and have to admit that the girls as advertised on the site look too good to be true (if they are genuine, i`m suprise that AM and CB can compete with their selection). But hope springs eternal, and i haven`t heard anything about them for a while. I was wondering if maybe negative feedback had stopped them from dicking around. Or are they still to be avoided. Anyone had any recent experience with them?Also, RE the above post, i also get no response from Club Boo by e-mail. Is this normal? Calling is the only option?Finsally, i`m toying with the idea of Tamaki over @ AM. Anyone had a good experience with her? How are her looks and weight?Thanks.
I'm not sure if I've read anything to the contrary elsewhere, but is AM usually FS, or is it YMMV?I think next time I'm over there, I'm going to want to try anal with Tamaki and possibly some time with Yumika as well.For obvious reasons they can not advertise it, but with AM it is understood that you do get FS.Of course, if there is something seriously wrong with you, YMMV.
Bar Pillar
01-08-08, 16:27
Clubboo: Once I tried emailing CB and I did not get a response. Calling is the best way to go. The last few times I used them an older man answered. If you get him ask him his opionon who is available. He is pretty honest about the girls and what to expect physically. He recommended Risa to me and she is BY FAR one of the hottest japanese girls I have ever met. I think she has left the biz though.I have had Tamaki and I would imagine sheis the best that AM has to offer presently. She is big by Japanese standards but has a nice body and is by no emans fat. My only concern is that she doesnt have a typical japanese face. In fact she looks thai of flip. I prefer really japanese looking girls. Servie is good but not outstanding. BBBJ, multiple positions, GFE. But no CIM. But as always YMMV.You guys hate this but I have another post on Kawasaki. I love this place. I like being abke to choose mulitple girls for 10, 00 yen a pop. I had 2 korean cuties with big ass tities today. Again it is not for everyone so go at your own risk. But it is gaijin friendly and cheap.
I've been a frequent user of CB and occasional user of AM. I tried once to make a reservation with CB by email, and did not receive a response. That was a couple of years ago. Ever since I've always called and had no trouble. Although a little more expensive I think the women of CB are more attractive generally. Service at CB and AM have both been great. I think there was only one who insisted on CBJ. Believe she was at AM, but she's long gone. All others have been BBBJ, with additional GFE.
I Fucked Haruhi
01-09-08, 11:09
I went to Janjan today, the doorman showed me in then the guy inside like muttered something to me in a low voice, I couldn't hear him so I asked him to repeat and he just said 'you don't understand, so get out'.I then said, I understand japanese, I couldn't hear wtf you just said, it was noisy with the music and you just muttered something incoherent.He was like 'just get out'The guy was clearly just a fucking racist, and muttered shit just as an excuse to get rid off me. As I was leaving I just said to him that you're jealous of us westerners for having bigger cocks. He didn't say shit to me after that and I just walked out.As I was leaving a tout from another one ushered me in (walking from the station, down that road its the first on the right). Paid 3000, got a terrible blowjob from a girl who barely got her mouth over the cock head, what a waste of time.Sick of xenophobic, racist japan. No wonder hardly any gaijin live here.
Tried Hikari from CB. Photo was accurate, other than her hair is now short. She is quite petite, not so apparent on photo. Great GFE, nice figure and tries hard to please. My only issue is her poor english, which makes it difficult to communicate and make the experience whole.We did DFK, BBBJ, CIM, FS and 2 shots. Very nice service! Recommendable.Anybody tried the platinum angels from CB, always wanted to know whether they are really worth the price.
I couldn't hear him so I asked him to repeat and he just said 'you don't understand, so get out'. I then said, I understand japanese, I couldn't hear wtf you just said, it was noisy with the music and you just muttered something incoherent.Is that what you said? I agree, you don't understand Japanese.Gyaos.
I Fucked Haruhi
01-09-08, 23:06
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Anybody tried the platinum angels from CB, always wanted to know whether they are really worth the price. Of the three current Platinum Angels I have had Maya over several times. Very beautiful, great service, not so great English, but that's ok. However I had Maya over back when she was a "Regular" Angel. I think she upgraded to Platinum about 6 months ago. CB is already a little pricier than AM, so the Platinum prices are really a stretch. I haven't had Maya over since her upgrade. I'm equally happy with the other "Regular" Angels, and particularly interested in Hikari after your report, thank you. I did try to book Lime (pronounced like the fruit, not like Lee-may) a couple of times, but she wasn't available the nights I wanted to get together. So for me staying with the Regulars is my preference.
I went to Janjan today, the doorman showed me in then the guy inside like muttered something to me in a low voice, I couldn't hear him so I asked him to repeat and he just said 'you don't understand, so get out'.I then said, I understand japanese, I couldn't hear wtf you just said, it was noisy with the music and you just muttered something incoherent.He was like 'just get out'The guy was clearly just a fucking racist, and muttered shit just as an excuse to get rid off me. As I was leaving I just said to him that you're jealous of us westerners for having bigger cocks. He didn't say shit to me after that and I just walked out.<snip>Sick of xenophobic, racist japan. No wonder hardly any gaijin live here.That's interesting, you're the first person ever to make a report of being asked to leave Jan Jan, regardless of Japanese ability.Sure you're not leaving something out here?
Many people often post about racism here. For the most part I agree that there is a level of racism. But, I don't necessarily think there is more of it here compared to other countries. Espcially the U. S. While it is true that you that you generally won't get thrown out of a place for being of a different race in the U. S. , you might not get equal treatment. Especially in less metropolitan areas of the U. S.The Japanese will treat you differently if you are a foreigner. But they tend not to chase a black guy, or a gay guy down the street and beat him to death just for being different. I think that is a positive.Lastly, I'd like to mention something that I think people don't understand here in Japan. The Yakuza (Japanese Mafia) which runs the majority of the sex related industry, is ultra ultra ultra conservative and very right wing. They are as pro-Japan as the ultra conservative right wingers in the U. S. Are pro-America. This is why they actively refuse gaijin. This is also why it is more difficult to go into a love hotel with 3 or more people, or as a gay couple, or even alone. It's because of their conservative views on sex, I. E. It should be between a man and a woman. This is may seem strange, and is probably difficult for most foreigners to understand because on the one hand they are in the sex business but on the other, they have certain "morals" about sex.So, it's not an objective sampling to condemn this country based on experiences with sex shops.I definetly think there is racism here, but I like to think of it as a "kinder gentler" form of racism.
I went to Janjan today, the doorman showed me in then the guy inside like muttered something to me in a low voice, I couldn't hear him so I asked him to repeat and he just said 'you don't understand, so get out'.I then said, I understand japanese, I couldn't hear wtf you just said, it was noisy with the music and you just muttered something incoherent.He was like 'just get out'The guy was clearly just a fucking racist, and muttered shit just as an excuse to get rid off me. As I was leaving I just said to him that you're jealous of us westerners for having bigger cocks. He didn't say shit to me after that and I just walked out.As I was leaving a tout from another one ushered me in (walking from the station, down that road its the first on the right). Paid 3000, got a terrible blowjob from a girl who barely got her mouth over the cock head, what a waste of time.Sick of xenophobic, racist japan. No wonder hardly any gaijin live here.
I definetly think there is racism here, but I like to think of it as a "kinder gentler" form of racism.I am not even sure about that. From reading his behaviour here (and that is *his* presentation, i.e. in his favour) he behaved like a a*se and probably screwed this place up for other gaijins.I mean, ridiculing the doorman about his small Japanese dick, and then complaining about racism. Good grief.
FlyingFlying
01-10-08, 06:26
As I was leaving I just said to him that you're jealous of us westerners for having bigger cocks. He didn't say shit to me after that and I just walked out.He probably couldn't understand what you were trying to say to him in your poor Japanese.
I have been to Jan Jan many times, and have always been welcomed. (I clearly appear to be a gaijin.) Some other shops on the street in Sugamo have turned me away as a gaijin, but Jan Jan has always been one of the reliable shops for entry in my experience. Also - it seems a little unbelievable that the tout would invite someone in but the man inside would refuse - they usually get their signals right. So the original story probably omitted something - my guess is "I fucked Haruhi" said something to provoke a negative response... But no matter what the cause, even if things had gone the way described, making a scene just doesn't get you anywhere - and it may just make it harder for other gaijins to be accepted ... sometimes you just have to suck it up and move on. You aren't going to change those xenophobic atitudes by making a scene.
Was just going to write about my second trip to Jan Jan when I read the stuff below. I was able to get in no problem.This time was much better then my last expereince, however, I did go at 10pm and had to pay 4,000. The place was backed and I waited about 15 minutes before my girl showed up. She said her name was Jun and she was Japanese, but I am pretty sure she was Chinese because her Japanese just sounded very odd.We first made out and rubbed on her kitty which was completely shaved. She then went down on Jr and gave a pretty damn good BJ and even though I was trying to fight cumming, I only lasted for about 7 minutes. This girl had much better skills then Aki who I first had. However, this girl lacked the GFE that I got from Aki. When we were done Jun talked for a minute and rushed me to the door and did not even give me a business card. Face: 6, teeth were kinda jacked up and its just a wavy thing I haveBody: 7, nice b cups and a little chubby, but fine by meTechinque: 8, really good and new what she was doing.Overall: 8, This was a much better expereince, however, I am hoping next time will be even better.As far as the comment made about being asked to leave Jan Jan . . . . I think you are leaving something out and are only helping to further perpetuate the stereotype they have of gaijin with that kind of attitude. Most Japanese are very friendly and both times I have been to Jan Jan they have been nothing but pleasant.
The Tanuki
01-10-08, 12:32
So, it's not an objective sampling to condemn this country based on experiences with sex shops.I definetly think there is racism here, but I like to think of it as a "kinder gentler" form of racism.Back in the mid-80's I was on a big gray boat on its way back to port in Yokosuka. We parked out in the bay for 3 days to run propulsion checks, and the airwing guys got flown off by chopper back to Atsugi. Some pinhead writer was sitting out there watching the boat and trying to figure out why we were just sitting out there while some folks came back to land. He decided to go with the story that the Midway crew was infected with AIDS. When we finally got out of the stinkin base, the "Japanese Only" signs were damn near everyplace. Even on up into Yokohama and Tokyo.It took quite awhile for things to normalize, and the media played up on folks distrusting foreigners to help fan the flames of xenophobia. Really sucked.Having talked with bar owners and pimps at various places since then, a lot of them swear that the main reason they wouldn't allow foreigners is due to the language hassle. That and the expectation of high prices resulting in fights and things along those lines. Of course, while talking to them in Japanese the language piece sorta falls apart but they still wouldn't let this white dude buy a BJ or whatever.It is a drag to get rejected from P4P joints but I figure there's nothing to get pissed about. That isn't going to change anyone's mind, but will reinforce the notion that gaijins are assholes.Let's concentrate on helping to make the places successful that will let anyone in who acts decently and pays up. That's a strategy toward opening things up eventually.Wantacunta
Asian Phetish
01-10-08, 14:32
I went to Janjan today, the doorman showed me in then the guy inside like muttered something to me in a low voice, I couldn't hear him so I asked him to repeat and he just said 'you don't understand, so get out'.I then said, I understand japanese, I couldn't hear wtf you just said, it was noisy with the music and you just muttered something incoherent.He was like 'just get out'The guy was clearly just a fucking racist, and muttered shit just as an excuse to get rid off me. As I was leaving I just said to him that you're jealous of us westerners for having bigger cocks. He didn't say shit to me after that and I just walked out.As I was leaving a tout from another one ushered me in (walking from the station, down that road its the first on the right). Paid 3000, got a terrible blowjob from a girl who barely got her mouth over the cock head, what a waste of time.Sick of xenophobic, racist japan. No wonder hardly any gaijin live here.Thanks for ruining any future chance at that establishment.And if you are sick of japan, no one is stopping you leaving.When in Rome.
I am not even sure about that. From reading his behaviour here (and that is *his* presentation, i.e. in his favour) he behaved like a a*se and probably screwed this place up for other gaijins.I mean, ridiculing the doorman about his small Japanese dick, and then complaining about racism. Good grief.Yeah, you're right. He absolutely shouldn't have made comments like that. It just confirms their reasoning to reject foreigners. The "kinder gentler" aspect is that he didn't end up severely injured in a dumpster. In New York, if you tell the doorman of a strip club he's got a small dick. There's a pretty good chance there's going to be a fight! If you tell a guy with mob connections he's got a small dick, I think there's a chance that they'd want to rough you up a bit before letting you go.He know he doesn't have to worry about that here, which is exactly why he so confidently made such a comment.
So after reading the post about Jan Jan and having just been there the say before, I decided on my way home lastnight to go ahead and swing by. I had no problem getting in and got a great BJ. I even acted like I did not even speak very good Japanese and still not issue.Jan Jan is a good gaijin friendly place, and when you put it in perspective to what cost (s) are in the States, it is actually well worth it.Anyways this is just to FYI!
I had two questions for some of the older members who are more informed then I am about Tokyo: 1) I read some old post about SW in Shin-Okubo, but these post are several years old. Can anyone give me any pointers or info about this area? 2) I heard from a friend that in Koenji this are two places that are gaijin friendly that you can get a BJ at for 3k yen. I went there around, "Central Street, " but most of the places did not allow gaijin in. Anyoen kwno anythign about this? Again thanks for the info youg guys provide. My experiences in Japan are a lot better thanks to your guys feedback and info. I hope mine is helpful as well.
I went to Janjan today, the doorman showed me in then the guy inside like muttered something to me in a low voice, I couldn't hear him so I asked him to repeat and he just said 'you don't understand, so get out'.I then said, I understand japanese, I couldn't hear wtf you just said, it was noisy with the music and you just muttered something incoherent.He was like 'just get out'The guy was clearly just a fucking racist, and muttered shit just as an excuse to get rid off me. As I was leaving I just said to him that you're jealous of us westerners for having bigger cocks. He didn't say shit to me after that and I just walked out.As I was leaving a tout from another one ushered me in (walking from the station, down that road its the first on the right). Paid 3000, got a terrible blowjob from a girl who barely got her mouth over the cock head, what a waste of time.Sick of xenophobic, racist japan. No wonder hardly any gaijin live here.There's obviously a lot left out here--except your stinkin' attitude. Your handle pretty much shows your crudity, I think, and no one on this board for years has had such an experience at Jan Jan. If your Japanese is so good, how did you say to the guy inside "wtf?" Japanese language has no comparable expression. Maybe your Japanese is so feable they really couldn't understand you, but the hostile "up yours" attitude written all over you got to him. It sure would me if I were in such a job, and I'd tell you to get out, too.Maybe it's time for a continent change.
I Fucked Haruhi
01-11-08, 16:59
I left out nothing, absolutely nothing. It was blatent racism, if you don't believe me then fine, I don't give a shitI've used hinomaru, little bear at least 10 times each, never had a problem. I speak fluent japanese, I've lived here 8 years now.Once again, if you think I'm bending the truth or I did something that I'm not saying, fine, don't believe me, but I know deep down I did nothing wrong. I was let in by the doorman then the guy downstairs just basically told me to get out in as rude a manner as he possible could.It was early afternoon, about 2pm on Wednesday when I went in, my first time there and obviously my last as don't tolerate racism. Try at that time, perhaps the same prick works at that hour, see for yourself.I'm sure there are people here who don't want to believe this happened, fine, you don't have to but I'm entitled to report an act or racism, which it was.Anyway, I shall go back to my free blowjobs, aka the girlfriend. I'm starting to feel bad for cheating on her anyway by going into these sleezy places.Feel free to try racist janjan at that time, go ahead. I bet someone else will soon report racism from them too, because that's what they are.Anyway, this board disapoints me, I thought fellow gaijins would be disguisted with the way I was treated, instead I just get accused of being a liar or whatever. Fine, have it yourway, but if that place discriminates against you don't say I didn't warn you.
Evan Stoner
01-11-08, 19:09
I was let in by the doorman then the guy downstairs just basically told me to get out in as rude a manner as he possible could.What might have happened is that you looked like some other gaikokujin (possibly someone even lurking on these boards? ;-p) who threw a tantrum and caused some kind of problem a couple of weeks ago -- thus the attitude. Who knows? I've been barred from a bar or two in Japan simply for looking like somebody the bouncer had to throw out the weekend before. Believe it or not, we tend to all look the same (whether white, brown, yellow, whatever) to those outside our own racial group.Or it could have been something else entirely. In any case it is important to keep your cool, if not for your own benefit then for mine, er, I mean ours. Anyway.How's Little Bear? I've never tried it, but meant to get over there and check it out based on some (dated) reviews here. What's the system there? Is FS potentially available 'under the counter' depending on the girl?ES
i am not doubting your story. your attitude sounds a little screwed up. most foreign residents of japan, me included, have encountered racism. if you can't tolerate that then i'm not sure how you survive here because it's everywhere, whether you are aware of it or not, perhaps you don't see the nuance when it's applied to you, but i do and i just smile, remain polite, apologize for bothering them and i walk away. going around expecting people to respect you just doesn't work in japan. it might work in the west, in the 'hood or other places where disrespect is respected but not in japan, and it doesn't matter how fluent you are. disrespect is not something that's respected here, it doesn't matter for shit with these people so don't think you can demand respect just because you wish it. remember that these people have the protection of people who can make your life uncomfortable, too. the whole business is protected so why tug on superman's cape?i believed what happened as you stated. what i vehemently disapprove of is you fucking it up for the rest of us by having your fucked up attitude. it is your sort of behavior that ruins it for the rest of us. so what if the guy was mean-spirited and insulted you. that's happened to me before and you have to suck it up and walk away, hopefully with an apology and a smile on your face. you are not entitled to anything and you are nothing more than their guest so if you act like a guest, even when being treated rudely, at least you don't leave the stink around for the next guy who looks like you that comes in. i'm guessing some guy with an attitude who looks like you preceded you and fucked it up for you. call it mistaken identity or whatever, shit like that happens.your problem is you took it personally. when someone gives me shit like that i move on. why talk back, make a scene or otherwise worsen the situation? if it makes you feel better then you need to reassess your process. it's not doing anyone any favors, including yourself.i don't think anyone here really cares much about how you were treated. it's happened to everyone who frequents these establishments so it's nothing special. i spend quite a bit of time just peeking my head into these places (mostly off-limit healths) seeing if i can catch the tencho on a good day. i have a remarkable failure rate (seems like 100%) but i've learned to deal with it and move on. on those very rare occasions when i am successful i treat it as a distinct honor and act as gentlemanly as possible. when i'm rejected, sometimes with a "get out!" or worse, i smile and move on. sure, i feel belittled and disrespected but what can i do? it's not the time to compare dick sizes and try to get a shot in before you leave. what does that do? it merely reinforces the stereotype of the ugly foreigner.lastly, i'm not sure how you have lived in japan for eight years and you can't tolerate racism. you must be really naive and don't see it or you must be one frustrated sob, because i see it and hear it continuously, even at my workplace which is a foreign company doing business in japan. it's very subtle at times and you wouldn't even notice it until its either pointed out to you or you finally get it, but it's there, no doubt about it.you shouldn't be disappointed with this board. yes, people here are disgusted with how you were treated but they are just as disgusted or more disgusted in your reaction to it. i don't think anyone here doubts for a microsecond that any of these places have the right to discriminate against any of us so there is no need to warn anyone here. we have "been there, done that" too many times. the rule is to be discriminated against. the exception is to be invited in. that's the way things are and you can't change it.
i left out nothing, absolutely nothing. it was blatent racism, if you don't believe me then fine, i don't give a shiti've used hinomaru, little bear at least 10 times each, never had a problem. i speak fluent japanese, i've lived here 8 years now.once again, if you think i'm bending the truth or i did something that i'm not saying, fine, don't believe me, but i know deep down i did nothing wrong. i was let in by the doorman then the guy downstairs just basically told me to get out in as rude a manner as he possible could.it was early afternoon, about 2pm on wednesday when i went in, my first time there and obviously my last as don't tolerate racism. try at that time, perhaps the same prick works at that hour, see for yourself.i'm sure there are people here who don't want to believe this happened, fine, you don't have to but i'm entitled to report an act or racism, which it was.anyway, i shall go back to my free blowjobs, aka the girlfriend. i'm starting to feel bad for cheating on her anyway by going into these sleezy places.feel free to try racist janjan at that time, go ahead. i bet someone else will soon report racism from them too, because that's what they are.anyway, this board disapoints me, i thought fellow gaijins would be disguisted with the way i was treated, instead i just get accused of being a liar or whatever. fine, have it yourway, but if that place discriminates against you don't say i didn't warn you.
As I was leaving I just said to him that you're jealous of us westerners for having bigger cocks. Dude,dont tell him that...just whipped yours out to those hardcore yakuza men and repeat what you said to the shop keeper to the yakuza soldier and see his reaction. He might demonstrate to you the perfect art of Sonny Chiba on your ego.
Anyway, I shall go back to my free blowjobs, aka the girlfriend. I'm starting to feel bad for cheating on her anyway by going into these sleezy places.Anyway, this board disapoints me, I thought fellow gaijins would be disguisted with the way I was treated, instead I just get accused of being a liar or whatever. Fine, have it yourway, but if that place discriminates against you don't say I didn't warn you.As I said before, your attitude was no doubt written all over you; it jumps out at me clearly from some of the things you write, so the guy most likely perceived it, too. The simple fact that you think "those sleazy places" shows your own discriminatory feelings; if you think they're sleazy, then whoever works there is sleazy and not worthy of your respect, I suspect. Ever been treated like shit by an employee of the same race in your own country? I have--so many times I couldn't count them. But I've only experienced such treatment a handful of times in Japan during the past 13+ years. I lay that on the individual, not the whole country. Having lived in four very different countries, and traveled all over the world, I can assure you that racism (and ethnic/nationality prejudice as well) is common in all international/cross-cultural situations. Fortunately, in Japan, it's almost never blatant or violent, so I can live with that. If you can't, you should just go back to where you came from, try your attitude there, and see where it gets you.It'd be interesting to know whether "the girlfriend" is Japanese or Other, why you've been frequenting places you call "sleezy" for so long and why you're just now starting to feel guilty about cheating on your girlfriend. Sounds like you have some pretty serious cognitive dissonance going on in addition to a bad attitude.
I always try to treat people with respect, regardless of how much I don't like them. When someone at one of these places disrespects me, I still show them respect, perhaps hoping that it might change their behavior. In Japan, foreigners are disrespected as a matter of course. It's institutionalized behavior and every Japanese feels superior to every non-Japanese. It's part of growing up in a society where the majority exceeds 95%. Just take a look at how Gypsies/Roma are treated in western Europe, now that's what I call disrespect.Regarding the sleaze comment, I find that a bit aloof and totally disengaged from reality. If you're a customer of these places then "you are what you eat" in my mind and if you think these places are sleazy then you are a sleazeball of similar degree.
As I said before, your attitude was no doubt written all over you; it jumps out at me clearly from some of the things you write, so the guy most likely perceived it, too. The simple fact that you think "those sleazy places" shows your own discriminatory feelings; if you think they're sleazy, then whoever works there is sleazy and not worthy of your respect, I suspect. Ever been treated like shit by an employee of the same race in your own country? I have--so many times I couldn't count them. But I've only experienced such treatment a handful of times in Japan during the past 13+ years. I lay that on the individual, not the whole country. Having lived in four very different countries, and traveled all over the world, I can assure you that racism (and ethnic/nationality prejudice as well) is common in all international/cross-cultural situations. Fortunately, in Japan, it's almost never blatant or violent, so I can live with that. If you can't, you should just go back to where you came from, try your attitude there, and see where it gets you.It'd be interesting to know whether "the girlfriend" is Japanese or Other, why you've been frequenting places you call "sleezy" for so long and why you're just now starting to feel guilty about cheating on your girlfriend. Sounds like you have some pretty serious cognitive dissonance going on in addition to a bad attitude.
Prius Driver
01-13-08, 12:59
The search for a Thai massage palor with a happy ending led me to Shin Okubo and a place that has caught my attention for a long time. Mangosteen is about a 7 minute walk from Shin Okubo station and is on the 4th floor on a building with a couple of Korean restaurants. I made an appointment the previous day. This is best to avoid disappointment. Accompanied with a friend and the website discount coupon, we rang the doorbell and entered. The place was very clean and there were around 6 rooms separated with 2 meter walls. Each room had a curtain for a door. My friend and I both chose the 90 minute oil massage with a 10 minute 'kougan' testes massage. The price was 11,000 yen and kougan massage was 2,000 yen but with coupon discount it came to 11,000 yen. The kougan massage isn't listed on their website. The girls are exactly how they look on the website. I was given Fumi and my friend was given Kaori. The shower room was small but clean as well. After having a shower I was let to my room. The room had tiles and a futon was in the middle of it. The rooms were small but just enough space for easy movement of the masseuse. The room was dimmed with a red light. The actual massage was pretty good but I have had better. My friend told me that his massage was just okay as Kaori was pretty new at it. Near 10 minutes to the end Fumi started the kougan massage. I enjoy these massages but after a while Fumi grabbed my hand and told me that I had to finish off myself. I really didn't mind not getting a HJ but out of obligation I finished myself off. My friend was also told to finish himself off. He readily complied. So all in all a nice place but without the HJ I've come to expect from other places. http://mangosteen.jp/index.html
I've been to this place as well and had the same experience. A lot of these Thai massage places apparently around allowed to do the extras because they don't have a license. The massages are hit or miss depending on the girl you get. Some give a really great massage. Shin Okubo has a few thai massage places and they all seem to have the same format.This place in Shinjuku is a little more liberal with the "hanky panky". http://www.asian-feeling.net/Although YMMV, in my experience they will give you a massage and HJ. If the girl likes you, she'll show you her breasts if you ask.
The search for a Thai massage palor with a happy ending led me to Shin Okubo and a place that has caught my attention for a long time. Mangosteen is about a 7 minute walk from Shin Okubo station and is on the 4th floor on a building with a couple of Korean restaurants. I made an appointment the previous day. This is best to avoid disappointment. Accompanied with a friend and the website discount coupon, we rang the doorbell and entered. The place was very clean and there were around 6 rooms separated with 2 meter walls. Each room had a curtain for a door. My friend and I both chose the 90 minute oil massage with a 10 minute 'kougan' testes massage. The price was 11,000 yen and kougan massage was 2,000 yen but with coupon discount it came to 11,000 yen. The kougan massage isn't listed on their website. The girls are exactly how they look on the website. I was given Fumi and my friend was given Kaori. The shower room was small but clean as well. After having a shower I was let to my room. The room had tiles and a futon was in the middle of it. The rooms were small but just enough space for easy movement of the masseuse. The room was dimmed with a red light. The actual massage was pretty good but I have had better. My friend told me that his massage was just okay as Kaori was pretty new at it. Near 10 minutes to the end Fumi started the kougan massage. I enjoy these massages but after a while Fumi grabbed my hand and told me that I had to finish off myself. I really didn't mind not getting a HJ but out of obligation I finished myself off. My friend was also told to finish himself off. He readily complied. So all in all a nice place but without the HJ I've come to expect from other places. http://mangosteen.jp/index.html
Asakusa Senbei
01-14-08, 06:42
On the pink guide list someone said he had dated Erika before and that she had made adult movies. I checked, and by jolly, it is true. If you google for Marie Fujisaki, you can find several movies with her.I can now say that I have humped an AV actress, hurah! :-)Heh, I had a session with her a few weeks ago and I knew she looked familiar but I just couldn't place it. Even when I first answered the door, I must have given her this look of recognition since she later brought up something about that (but she only said that many people mistake her for being Korean and start talking to her in that language). I first just chalked it up to her bearing a very slight resemblance to J-actress Maya Miki. But finding out about this and searching around in kanji/kana, it turns out I had watched some of her uncensored office lady flicks from 99bb which is why she looked (face and body) familiar :) Gotta say she is way prettier in person than most of the cover/screen shots from some of the videos she has been in. Also, I think she is at least in her 30's (a few years older than what is noted on the AM site) just based on the sort of stuff we were able to talk about.I hope this doesn't mess things up for her at AM. While she wasn't a Maria, I still enjoyed her easy going laid back demeanor. Just conversing with her about a whole bunch of things was fun because she is pretty smart, witty and has a great sense of humor (her laugh is great). Plus she really enjoyed oral (we spent nearly half an hour 69'ing). I still had a fun time with her and even finding out about this, would still recommend her (with the caveat about her being very laid back and not to expect a strong GFE).If anyone wants a detailed report about Erika as an AM girl, let me know.
Prius Driver
01-14-08, 09:17
Hi Inasia,I've yet to try Asian Feeling but from a few reports on this board show it to be a nice place. How many times did you visit Asian Feeling and how many of those times did they show breasts? I will definitely try and get down there someday. I guess Asian Feeling is doing well as they have opened another shop not far from the first.http://www.asian-relax.net/Asian Relax only opened this month so it might be a good time to try it out. In my experience there are lots of Thai massage palors all around Tokyo but most without any extra services. It's kind of a hobby of mine to sample as many places as I can. Many of the places I found great unfortunately closed down after a few months.
I've been to this place as well and had the same experience. A lot of these Thai massage places apparently around allowed to do the extras because they don't have a license. The massages are hit or miss depending on the girl you get. Some give a really great massage. Shin Okubo has a few thai massage places and they all seem to have the same format.This place in Shinjuku is a little more liberal with the "hanky panky". http://www.asian-feeling.net/Although YMMV, in my experience they will give you a massage and HJ. If the girl likes you, she'll show you her breasts if you ask.
Prius,I agree with Inasia. Asian Feeling is a nice Thai massage place. It was one of my first expereinces in Tokyo and the place is really clean and the girls are as listed on there website. Also I think the site has a coupon for 1,000 yen off, but you can spend 1,000 yen to pic your girl as well. A 60 minute oil course was 10,000 yen. The massage was given by Ami who I think looked better then the pics listed. Also she speaks English much better then Japanese so it was easy just to talk in English. I beleive there are some other girls that speak English much better then Japanese as well.Thanks for your report BTW
The search for a Thai massage palor with a happy ending led me to Shin Okubo and a place that has caught my attention for a long time. Mangosteen is about a 7 minute walk from Shin Okubo station and is on the 4th floor on a building with a couple of Korean restaurants. I made an appointment the previous day. This is best to avoid disappointment. Accompanied with a friend and the website discount coupon, we rang the doorbell and entered. The place was very clean and there were around 6 rooms separated with 2 meter walls. Each room had a curtain for a door. My friend and I both chose the 90 minute oil massage with a 10 minute 'kougan' testes massage. The price was 11,000 yen and kougan massage was 2,000 yen but with coupon discount it came to 11,000 yen. The kougan massage isn't listed on their website. The girls are exactly how they look on the website. I was given Fumi and my friend was given Kaori. The shower room was small but clean as well. After having a shower I was let to my room. The room had tiles and a futon was in the middle of it. The rooms were small but just enough space for easy movement of the masseuse. The room was dimmed with a red light. The actual massage was pretty good but I have had better. My friend told me that his massage was just okay as Kaori was pretty new at it. Near 10 minutes to the end Fumi started the kougan massage. I enjoy these massages but after a while Fumi grabbed my hand and told me that I had to finish off myself. I really didn't mind not getting a HJ but out of obligation I finished myself off. My friend was also told to finish himself off. He readily complied. So all in all a nice place but without the HJ I've come to expect from other places. http://mangosteen.jp/index.html
I've been to Asian Feeling twice. Both times, I had girls that can speak English. I always try and have a nice conversation with the girls, and both times, they've been willing to show their body. I've been to Thailand a few times so it's easy to strike up a conversation with them.I'm in it mainly for the massage and HJ so I'm not looking for a lot of extras. If that's what you're into this place will suit your needs. I haven't been to Korean massage places yet. Anyone have any good recommendations? I'd like to try that next, but there is only a little bit of info here on these boards and I haven't been able to find many just walking around on the streets.
Hi Inasia,I've yet to try Asian Feeling but from a few reports on this board show it to be a nice place. How many times did you visit Asian Feeling and how many of those times did they show breasts? I will definitely try and get down there someday. I guess Asian Feeling is doing well as they have opened another shop not far from the first.http://www.asian-relax.net/Asian Relax only opened this month so it might be a good time to try it out. In my experience there are lots of Thai massage palors all around Tokyo but most without any extra services. It's kind of a hobby of mine to sample as many places as I can. Many of the places I found great unfortunately closed down after a few months.
Prius Driver
01-15-08, 10:55
As for myself I've only been to Trinity in Otsuka. It's been mentioned quite a few times on this board.http://www.paradise-bb.com/trinity/The girl I got went through the paces so didn't get a GFE at all. The massage was the sensual type with 'akasuri' scrubbing massage. It's nice if you are into that sort of thing. I'd rather a strong, relaxing massage so that is why I keep going back to Thai massage palors.PD
I've been to Asian Feeling twice. Both times, I had girls that can speak English. I always try and have a nice conversation with the girls, and both times, they've been willing to show their body. I've been to Thailand a few times so it's easy to strike up a conversation with them.I'm in it mainly for the massage and HJ so I'm not looking for a lot of extras. If that's what you're into this place will suit your needs. I haven't been to Korean massage places yet. Anyone have any good recommendations? I'd like to try that next, but there is only a little bit of info here on these boards and I haven't been able to find many just walking around on the streets.
The Alchemist
01-15-08, 13:22
I haven?t heard about Super Girls for a while now. A few weeks ago I decided to give it a go because I?ve heard & read about it, also I was in the Ginza/Shimbashi area and said "hey, why not. " I get there slightly after 6:30pm and ask the doorman politely (in? Of course) if I may come in. He responded "gaikokujin, NO THANKS. " Then I pulled out the discount card for 1k that an acquaintance of mine had given me about a month back. He still said "gaikokujin, no thanks, " I acted as if I was surprised and gave him the "eh. Honto? Wakatta, " nodded my head and went on my way. I just assumed he was pissed but nevertheless what he felt or what he was thinking was not going to have an effect on my behavior, I kept my cool and used reason. I didn?t want to make a scene because I don?t want to add fuel to the fire named "No Gaijin" by any means. Besides SG is located on a moderately busy passage and I don?t think being a black guy in this case helped too much. I read a post a while back about some military guys trying to get in who were acting a fool, despite that being a while back I?m curious as to if we are feeling the repercussions from past events or is it just a case by case basis as with most places? It would be a bad thing to have yet another place taken away from us. Don?t get me wrong there are a plethora of places to choose from but it?s always good to have options in various locations.
Gamma Ray 007
01-15-08, 16:48
I found the map for the Asian-Feeling location on their website (http://www.asian-relax.net/system.html), and after figuring out that the map was oriented with East up (something I'll just have to get used to), I cross-referenced it with the Kabuki-cho map I found here (http://homepage3.nifty.com/kuroodo/html/map-e.htm) and came up with this location: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441c0fe6a62cd7a1b2&ll=35.694574,139.70111&spn=0.00103,0.001727&z=19&om=1&iwloc=000443c48b1c505a74d27Does this look right? Any corrections or additions would be appreciated! Although I should comment that I find it hard to enjoy a real massage (especially a traditional Thai massage) if I know there's a happy-ending in view. I like to keep my modes of relaxation somewhat distinct!
Evan Stoner
01-15-08, 23:42
Al:I'm not sure if SG has changed as I have not been in a couple of months, but I noted here in November or so that one of the girls had told me the tencho would not let black guys in for whatever reason. Or perhaps the policy has changed for all foreigners, not sure. YMMV.ES
I haven?t heard about Super Girls for a while now. A few weeks ago I decided to give it a go because I?ve heard & read about it, also I was in the Ginza/Shimbashi area and said "hey, why not. " I get there slightly after 6:30pm and ask the doorman politely (in? Of course) if I may come in. He responded "gaikokujin, NO THANKS. " Then I pulled out the discount card for 1k that an acquaintance of mine had given me about a month back. He still said "gaikokujin, no thanks, " I acted as if I was surprised and gave him the "eh. Honto? Wakatta, " nodded my head and went on my way. I just assumed he was pissed but nevertheless what he felt or what he was thinking was not going to have an effect on my behavior, I kept my cool and used reason. I didn?t want to make a scene because I don?t want to add fuel to the fire named "No Gaijin" by any means. Besides SG is located on a moderately busy passage and I don?t think being a black guy in this case helped too much. I read a post a while back about some military guys trying to get in who were acting a fool, despite that being a while back I?m curious as to if we are feeling the repercussions from past events or is it just a case by case basis as with most places? It would be a bad thing to have yet another place taken away from us. Don?t get me wrong there are a plethora of places to choose from but it?s always good to have options in various locations.
Asian Feeling isn't that hard to find although it's sort of in a side street.You seem to be looking at the other shop which I have never been to. Asian Feeling and Asian-Relax are different I believe.For Asian Feeling - if you are at Donkihote, walk down the street towards McDonald's (not big main street with cars), McDonald's will be on your right, (very short walk... easily <1 min), and there's a street or alley on the opposite side from McDonald's (a little bit after), that you have to make a left into. You should see a lighted sign for Asian Feeling and I believe it's attached to the building if my memory serves me correctly.http://www.asian-feeling.net/access.html
I found the map for the Asian-Feeling location on their website (http://www.asian-relax.net/system.html), and after figuring out that the map was oriented with East up (something I'll just have to get used to), I cross-referenced it with the Kabuki-cho map I found here (http://homepage3.nifty.com/kuroodo/html/map-e.htm) and came up with this location: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441c0fe6a62cd7a1b2&ll=35.694574,139.70111&spn=0.00103,0.001727&z=19&om=1&iwloc=000443c48b1c505a74d27Does this look right? Any corrections or additions would be appreciated! Although I should comment that I find it hard to enjoy a real massage (especially a traditional Thai massage) if I know there's a happy-ending in view. I like to keep my modes of relaxation somewhat distinct!
Hi Prius, Yeah, that's the one place I've been to. I think I got the same girl that was mentioned on this site. Someone described a girl who was a little butch. I got a girl with kind of a squared off jaw, but not really that bad looking. She was OK, but not my type.I'm thinking of trying this place that was mentioned before on this site.http://www.ouji-akasuri.com/Has anyone been here yet?
As for myself I've only been to Trinity in Otsuka. It's been mentioned quite a few times on this board.http://www.paradise-bb.com/trinity/The girl I got went through the paces so didn't get a GFE at all. The massage was the sensual type with 'akasuri' scrubbing massage. It's nice if you are into that sort of thing. I'd rather a strong, relaxing massage so that is why I keep going back to Thai massage palors.PD
Dire Wolf98
01-16-08, 04:28
For seven years I dweltIn the loose palace of exilePlaying strange gamesWith the girls of the islandNow I have come againTo the land of the fair, and the strong, and the wiseBrothers and sisters of the pale forestO Children of NightWho among you will run with the hunt?Now Night arrives with her purple legionRetire now to your tents and to your dreamsTomorrow we enter the town of my birthI want to be ready-- Excerpt from 'Celebration of the Lizard'Words by Jim Morrison; Music by The Doors=====================I HATE for my first post here to be a request, but allow me to place my request into context. I am a gaijin and a former Tokyo resident; and when this whole Internet thing took off in 1995, I was a one-man wrecking crew for the Tokyo sections of the World Sex Guide and alt.sex.prostitution I also contributed extensively in these sections: Seoul, Hong Kong and Singapore. Perhaps, if the trail hasn't grown too cold, some fellahs here might recognize my handle.Also, I have a massive Tokyo FAQ that I would be happy to share with this site in the near future.After a five-year absence, I am returning to Tokyo for a business trip. Therefore, I am curious as to the current gaijin friendly shops in terms of:* Shibuya, especially the Fashion Health Clubs. I know that 21 Seiki and the Pink Salon one floor above closed.* Kabukicho, Pink Salons & Fashion Health Clubs. Sources tell me that Hinomaru is still going strong.* Roppongi: is Crystal still gaijin unfriendly? With the closure of Madonna Roppongi, have the other branches been receptive? I used to go to Madonna Yoyogi, but never Meguro and Hamamatsucho said they didn't accept gaijin. I still have my Madonna Group membership card.* Yoshiwara: my favorite Soapland was Starship. I also sampled Arena, Hilton and On-Stage Milano. A taxi driver once told me that about 10% of the Soaplands were gaijin friendly. Any observations?* What's up in Sugamo and Shin Okubo?In any event, I drop into Tokyo next week.After I return the US, I'll contact the moderator about my FAQ.
I haven?t heard about Super Girls for a while now. A few weeks ago I decided to give it a go because I?ve heard & read about it, also I was in the Ginza/Shimbashi area and said "hey, why not. " I get there slightly after 6:30pm and ask the doorman politely (in? Of course) if I may come in. He responded "gaikokujin, NO THANKS. " Then I pulled out the discount card for 1k that an acquaintance of mine had given me about a month back. He still said "gaikokujin, no thanks, " I acted as if I was surprised and gave him the "eh. Honto? Wakatta, " nodded my head and went on my way. I just assumed he was pissed but nevertheless what he felt or what he was thinking was not going to have an effect on my behavior, I kept my cool and used reason. I didn?t want to make a scene because I don?t want to add fuel to the fire named "No Gaijin" by any means. Besides SG is located on a moderately busy passage and I don?t think being a black guy in this case helped too much. I read a post a while back about some military guys trying to get in who were acting a fool, despite that being a while back I?m curious as to if we are feeling the repercussions from past events or is it just a case by case basis as with most places?For sure, many Japanese are even more prejudiced against Blacks than they are against Whites, but I think there's another issue at stake here: the advantage those of you who live in Tokyo have is the great network of reporters so you don't need to try 100 places to get serviced in one. The DISadvantage is that there so many of you who live there! It only takes one asshole to screw it up for everyone else, and that's an advantage I have had in living far from places where foreigners try to get serviced. In Tohoku, Beppu, Oita, Kurume, and Saga I've rarely been rejected, but I go to Fukuoka City where more than 20,000 foreigners live and get rejected at every single BJ parlor and 90% of the soaps there. It appears the situation is nearly the same in Sasebo where there's a huge U.S. military base.
Dire Wolf98
01-17-08, 04:30
In preparing for my first visit to Tokyo in five, I succeeded in contacting one of my favorite girls that I met through a Date Club (full service). Cute and slender, she was a model and Race Queen until she retired from those jobs ate the age of 18. I can't wait to see her!In the meantime, any help with my requests below would be greatly appreciated.
Gamma Ray 007
01-17-08, 05:12
Thanks! I think that pins down both branches of the Thai massage shop. Their websites are almost identical--even down to the discount coupon! This map shows them both. http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441c0fe6a62cd7a1b2&ll=35.695147,139.701215&spn=0.002008,0.003648&z=18&om=0
You seem to be looking at the other shop which I have never been to. Asian Feeling and Asian-Relax are different I believe. For Asian Feeling - if you are at Donkihote, walk down the street towards McDonald's (not big main street with cars), McDonald's will be on your right, (very short walk... easily <1 min), and there's a street or alley on the opposite side from McDonald's (a little bit after), that you have to make a left into.
http://www.te-pe.com/price/index.htmlhttp://www.te-pe.com/staff/index.htmlThis is a Thai outcall service, where the ladies will service you at a hotel room. I haven't used it myself, but I've read about it on a random Japanese message board a while ago, and have been told about it by a couple of massage girls when I go get massages in Okubo. The girls are all Thai and will give you a massage at a hotel room. You have to call to make a reservation. It's 10k for 50 minutes and 3k for the hotel. According to the girls I talked to, you'll get a thai massage, shower with the girl, and "other stuff". One girl did say that there's "no sex", but I think they all have to say that. From the Japanese message board, I do remember talk of HJ, and BJ along with a massage.Without going myself, I think these girls would be willing to do FS although I'm not sure.Anyway, I know they won't turn you down for being a foreigner, which is a recurring theme here on this board and here in Japan, so I thought I'd report about this place. You do have to call and make a reservation, and the girls tend to speak Japanese. But, if you call and speak English, there's a chance one of the girls speaks English. When I get massages, a lot of them speak English.
Regarding Tepe Thai massage, you said 3K for hotel.Does that mean they have a room ready and you are paying 3K? Or Do you go to love hotel, or need your own room? I'm a little confused about the fee.
Prius Driver
01-17-08, 10:01
Hi GR007,According to the Asian Feeling blog, Asian Relax is a sister (serial) store. It just opened on January 4th and offers the same same courses that Asian Feeling does but with an additional "baby" powder massage. I've had powder massages before at many CMP and they are very sensual. If you are in that state of mind I would recommend it but I would usual go for the stronger Thai (stretch) or oil massage.PD
Thanks! I think that pins down both branches of the Thai massage shop. Their websites are almost identical--even down to the discount coupon! This map shows them both. http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441c0fe6a62cd7a1b2&ll=35.695147,139.701215&spn=0.002008,0.003648&z=18&om=0
Uh ohh... wow. Um, having boned much slimmer, cuter and younger Thai ladies in Thailand for less than half the price..... um, yeah.... PASS.
http://www.te-pe.com/price/index.htmlhttp://www.te-pe.com/staff/index.htmlThis is a Thai outcall service, where the ladies will service you at a hotel room. I haven't used it myself, but I've read about it on a random Japanese message board a while ago, and have been told about it by a couple of massage girls when I go get massages in Okubo. The girls are all Thai and will give you a massage at a hotel room.... blah, blah, blah...
Ganoosh, I agree. Been to Thailand a few times and the price/performance ratio there is in a different league. Less than half? More like less than 1/3 for a whole night! But anyway, since we're here in Japan, this is what we have to work with.
Uh ohh. Wow. Um, having boned much slimmer, cuter and younger Thai ladies in Thailand for less than half the price. Um, yeah. PASS.
They have a specific love hotel that they use and the 3000 yen is for using the room for up to 2 hours.
Regarding Tepe Thai massage, you said 3K for hotel.Does that mean they have a room ready and you are paying 3K? Or Do you go to love hotel, or need your own room? I'm a little confused about the fee.
Dire Wolf98
01-18-08, 02:29
Uh ohh... wow. Um, having boned much slimmer, cuter and younger Thai ladies in Thailand for less than half the price..... um, yeah.... PASS.I used to hear the cheaper and/or better argument a lot when I lived in Tokyo. However, BKK isn't exactly convenient for a lunch hour visit or an after-work treat.
Dire Wolf98
01-18-08, 02:39
Regarding Tepe Thai massage, you said 3K for hotel.Does that mean they have a room ready and you are paying 3K? Or Do you go to love hotel, or need your own room? I'm a little confused about the fee.When I lived in Tokyo, some shops were "modified outcall" - they had a reception where they showed you pix, but you then went to a Love Hotel nearby. Those shops would provide you with a discount ticket indicating that you came from their shop as opposed to just walking in off the street.That might be he case here.
Cuty Suzuki
01-18-08, 21:23
Just a little from a recent trip to Tokyo. Every tout that I saw in Ueno approached me, but I only ended up going to NYNY twice. Kumi was chubby with big soft hanging tits that I enjoyed playing with. Asami had graet oral skills. The Ueno information box people were friendly. They might be a resource. Has anyone found any places from the info booths?Kabukicho seemed calmed down a bit. I didn't see any SW or touts during the daytime. At night the touts were fewer than before. I got in to Madonna Nozoki by speaking Japanese, but it was self service unfortunately. The nozoki in the same building as New Hot Point is gone.Couldn't find a video box that had girls. Couldn't find one that had the right cable TV to watch NFL playoffs either.I ended up being too busy and did half as much hobbying as I had expected.
Dire Wolf,Exactly! And that point is especially relevant here in Japan since there are so many foreigner unfriendly places in general and the choices are limited.
I used to hear the cheaper and/or better argument a lot when I lived in Tokyo. However, BKK isn't exactly convenient for a lunch hour visit or an after-work treat.
Am planning a first time visit to Club Boo tomorrow (am a satisfied AM customer), and want to get my preference list in order just in case they don`t have who i want. Was wondering if anyone had any experience with Momo? No photo or description at the site. A hidden gem or hidden for a reason (that sounds harsh, but you know what i mean)? And just to clarify, unless they are platinum, 10k over the line for FS is the basic standard right?And while we are at it, what is Akubi`s face like? The body is nice, and unlike some i do care about the mantelpiece while poking the fire.
The Tanuki
01-20-08, 12:48
Hi GR007,According to the Asian Feeling blog, Asian Relax is a sister (serial) store. It just opened on January 4th and offers the same same courses that Asian Feeling does but with an additional "baby" powder massage. I've had powder massages before at many CMP and they are very sensual. If you are in that state of mind I would recommend it but I would usual go for the stronger Thai (stretch) or oil massage.PDI was in Shinjuku for a couple other things and figured what the hey and stopped in to try out Asian Feeling. Funny to see a sign on the street that welcomes foreigners!Kind of a youngish Japanese guy greets you and gives you some plastic flip flops to wear, then shows the "menu" for the shop. The traditional Thai massage, oil massage (with masturbatory motion indicated only on this selection) and the baby powder (essentially the traditional with some powder added). I like the smoothness of oils, so picked that one.I went into the room and got undressed, put on the robe and waited a couple minutes. A girl finally came in, introduced herself as Kei, and shuffled me over to the shower. Nice clean shower for a change, and lots of soap in the big plastic bottle. I did get a little concerned because it took quite awhile for the hot water to show up, and I was not up for a cold shower on a chilly Sunday afternoon... Anyhow, Kei was waiting for me with the towel on the way out, and dried me off with a little extra attention toward Mr Happy. Back to the room on the thin futon...The massage was not the greatest, but she does have nice warm hands and it led to a very sleepy state for me. After the flip, she worked on the feet and legs some more. Then she sat up and put her legs up on both sides of me to get in position to massage my chest, including some nice nipple massage with the oil (good touch there!). Her loose pants had gone away, and the legs were nice and smooth to my touch now. Then she started getting serious at stroking the balls and making Mr Happy stand at attention. Just for the helluvit I asked if any options were available such as the mouth or pussy. She said that she can't fuck, but the BJ was ok. So that sounded just dandy to me! While it was a combination HJ/BBBJ, she did go for CIM, which really surprised me. Awesome soft lips on Kei, if truth be told. She gave me a little kiss afterward, then came back with the set of hot towels. Loaded a couple layers of those on me, then the plastic sheet on top, followed by some semi body surfing to knead out the rest of the kinks. I didn't want another shower, so she gave me a face massage to round out the trip.For 10K plus a 500 yen "towel charge" I left with a smile on my face and will look forward to trying that place again soon. FWIW, Kei says she's been here for 3 years. Looks about 30-ish, though the bod and tits are nice and tight (she lets you pull them out of her bra to play a bit). Cute one!Cheers,Wantacunta
Neon Dragon
01-20-08, 14:39
I've been visiting this site occasionally last summer, but I haven't been able to follow this thread since November. So, I am not sure if anybody had said this already, but the nozoki place on the 7th floor is closed. I noticed that the sign next to the elevator was left blank so I tried to go up. But, the elevator button for the 7th floor wouldn't work.So, I curiously went up to the 9th floor (New Hot Point). Since I don't look gaijin at all, I went in, just casually handed the man at the counter 2000 Yen and took a sit on the red couch facing the counter (there was nobody else waiting).Since this was my first time visiting a nozoki place, I was getting a bit excited. But the guy asked me a question "blah blah blah. Blah blah. Digital camera. Blah blah blah? " So, I just said "Iie" and kept sitting on the couch. But the guy asked me the same question again (I think it's worth noting that I speak absolutely no Japanese, even though I look somewhat Japanese and certainly dress like one).So, I got up and casually showed him my iPod touch that was in my coat pocket, just to confirm that I had no other electric devices on me. But this man asked me another question, this time with the word along the lines of "katai" or "kitai" or "taki" or "kt". Since I had no fucking clue, I just put my iPod in a little basket with red numbered tags in it. As I put my iPod in there, he picked up one of the red tags, so I assumed that he would hold onto that MP3 player and give me the tag. But, he took another look at the iPod and asked me the same question using the unknown "kt" word above. I think I should've just said "iie" once more and taken a sit back on the couch, but I gave up to my subconscious language coach and answered, "Summimasen, I don't speak English. "BOOM.A silence.Then the guy said, "No, no, no. Here, " and gave me the 2000 Yen back. He didn't look pissed, but a bit annoyed, I would presume.Ok, so the place on the 7th floor is CLOSED. And the 9th floor one is definitely not forgiving for non-Japanese speakers. (I don't think I ruined it for other gaijins because I really don't look like a traditional "gaijin. " People think that I am Japanese. Perhaps the man thought I was a Japanese person who couldn't speak Japanese for some odd reason. Like being schooled abroad or something. This is just my excuse.)Since I am leaving in a couple of days and because I got turned back, I am now more eager to go experience nozoki. Does anybody have other suggestions? I've searched in this thread and found out the Chris USA + Pastel place, but nobody has put up detailed report of those places.Can I just casually go up to Chris USA on the 5th floor (a street to the west of the aforementioned New Hot Point place) and pay 2000 yen to get in? What if I want to get extra service? I know that at Chris USA, I can only touch the girl's upper body for a certain fee and the lower part for some extra yen. Do I play those at the counter as I go in? Or do I slip the extra service fees into some slit when the show starts? What about Pastel? The website gives detailed information about Service A and B for 4200 yen and 3000 yen, respectively. Do I just say "Sebisu A kudasai", pay 4200 at the counter, and go in? Any advice would be highly appreciated. Thanks everybody, and sorry that I couldn't get a real report for the New Hot Point place (I'll give it some time and try it again in March when I come back to Tokyo). But, if someone helps me out with the Chris USA and Patel places, I will definitely write up a detailed report for those two.Thanks all.
NeonDragon,The KT word was probably keitai which means cell phone. Since all cell phones here have a camera, he probably wanted you to give him your phone so you wouldn't take pictures. FWIW, it sounds like he gave you your money back not because you are a foreigner, but rather because you couldn't understand that you should put your phone in the basket. I think other guys on this board went into this place w/out any problems.
I've been visiting this site occasionally last summer, but I haven't been able to follow this thread since November. So, I am not sure if anybody had said this already, but the nozoki place on the 7th floor is closed. I noticed that the sign next to the elevator was left blank so I tried to go up. But, the elevator button for the 7th floor wouldn't work.So, I curiously went up to the 9th floor (New Hot Point). Since I don't look gaijin at all, I went in, just casually handed the man at the counter 2000 Yen and took a sit on the red couch facing the counter (there was nobody else waiting).Since this was my first time visiting a nozoki place, I was getting a bit excited. But the guy asked me a question "blah blah blah. Blah blah. Digital camera. Blah blah blah? " So, I just said "Iie" and kept sitting on the couch. But the guy asked me the same question again (I think it's worth noting that I speak absolutely no Japanese, even though I look somewhat Japanese and certainly dress like one).So, I got up and casually showed him my iPod touch that was in my coat pocket, just to confirm that I had no other electric devices on me. But this man asked me another question, this time with the word along the lines of "katai" or "kitai" or "taki" or "kt". Since I had no fucking clue, I just put my iPod in a little basket with red numbered tags in it. As I put my iPod in there, he picked up one of the red tags, so I assumed that he would hold onto that MP3 player and give me the tag. But, he took another look at the iPod and asked me the same question using the unknown "kt" word above. I think I should've just said "iie" once more and taken a sit back on the couch, but I gave up to my subconscious language coach and answered, "Summimasen, I don't speak English. "BOOM.A silence.Then the guy said, "No, no, no. Here, " and gave me the 2000 Yen back. He didn't look pissed, but a bit annoyed, I would presume.Ok, so the place on the 7th floor is CLOSED. And the 9th floor one is definitely not forgiving for non-Japanese speakers. (I don't think I ruined it for other gaijins because I really don't look like a traditional "gaijin. " People think that I am Japanese. Perhaps the man thought I was a Japanese person who couldn't speak Japanese for some odd reason. Like being schooled abroad or something. This is just my excuse.)Since I am leaving in a couple of days and because I got turned back, I am now more eager to go experience nozoki. Does anybody have other suggestions? I've searched in this thread and found out the Chris USA + Pastel place, but nobody has put up detailed report of those places.Can I just casually go up to Chris USA on the 5th floor (a street to the west of the aforementioned New Hot Point place) and pay 2000 yen to get in? What if I want to get extra service? I know that at Chris USA, I can only touch the girl's upper body for a certain fee and the lower part for some extra yen. Do I play those at the counter as I go in? Or do I slip the extra service fees into some slit when the show starts? What about Pastel? The website gives detailed information about Service A and B for 4200 yen and 3000 yen, respectively. Do I just say "Sebisu A kudasai", pay 4200 at the counter, and go in? Any advice would be highly appreciated. Thanks everybody, and sorry that I couldn't get a real report for the New Hot Point place (I'll give it some time and try it again in March when I come back to Tokyo). But, if someone helps me out with the Chris USA and Patel places, I will definitely write up a detailed report for those two.Thanks all.
Can you give exact directions for Asian Feeling in Shinjuku?Thnaks
I was in Shinjuku for a couple other things and figured what the hey and stopped in to try out Asian Feeling. Funny to see a sign on the street that welcomes foreigners!Kind of a youngish Japanese guy greets you and gives you some plastic flip flops to wear, then shows the "menu" for the shop. The traditional Thai massage, oil massage (with masturbatory motion indicated only on this selection) and the baby powder (essentially the traditional with some powder added). I like the smoothness of oils, so picked that one.I went into the room and got undressed, put on the robe and waited a couple minutes. A girl finally came in, introduced herself as Kei, and shuffled me over to the shower. Nice clean shower for a change, and lots of soap in the big plastic bottle. I did get a little concerned because it took quite awhile for the hot water to show up, and I was not up for a cold shower on a chilly Sunday afternoon... Anyhow, Kei was waiting for me with the towel on the way out, and dried me off with a little extra attention toward Mr Happy. Back to the room on the thin futon...The massage was not the greatest, but she does have nice warm hands and it led to a very sleepy state for me. After the flip, she worked on the feet and legs some more. Then she sat up and put her legs up on both sides of me to get in position to massage my chest, including some nice nipple massage with the oil (good touch there!). Her loose pants had gone away, and the legs were nice and smooth to my touch now. Then she started getting serious at stroking the balls and making Mr Happy stand at attention. Just for the helluvit I asked if any options were available such as the mouth or pussy. She said that she can't fuck, but the BJ was ok. So that sounded just dandy to me! While it was a combination HJ/BBBJ, she did go for CIM, which really surprised me. Awesome soft lips on Kei, if truth be told. She gave me a little kiss afterward, then came back with the set of hot towels. Loaded a couple layers of those on me, then the plastic sheet on top, followed by some semi body surfing to knead out the rest of the kinks. I didn't want another shower, so she gave me a face massage to round out the trip.For 10K plus a 500 yen "towel charge" I left with a smile on my face and will look forward to trying that place again soon. FWIW, Kei says she's been here for 3 years. Looks about 30-ish, though the bod and tits are nice and tight (she lets you pull them out of her bra to play a bit). Cute one!Cheers,Wantacunta
I have been often to NYNY, and, as you know, I am sure, it's hit or miss with regards to Girls.Can you give a few more details regarding the 2 girls you have sampled, age, etc...? And do you think one can ask for a girl specifically?[ThnaksQUOTE=Cuty Suzuki]Just a little from a recent trip to Tokyo. Every tout that I saw in Ueno approached me, but I only ended up going to NYNY twice. Kumi was chubby with big soft hanging tits that I enjoyed playing with. Asami had graet oral skills. The Ueno information box people were friendly. They might be a resource. Has anyone found any places from the info booths?Kabukicho seemed calmed down a bit. I didn't see any SW or touts during the daytime. At night the touts were fewer than before. I got in to Madonna Nozoki by speaking Japanese, but it was self service unfortunately. The nozoki in the same building as New Hot Point is gone.Couldn't find a video box that had girls. Couldn't find one that had the right cable TV to watch NFL playoffs either.I ended up being too busy and did half as much hobbying as I had expected.[/QUOTE]
The Special One
01-21-08, 03:53
I've been visiting this site occasionally last summer, but I haven't been able to follow this thread since November. So, I am not sure if anybody had said this already, but the nozoki place on the 7th floor is closed. I noticed that the sign next to the elevator was left blank so I tried to go up. But, the elevator button for the 7th floor wouldn't work.So, I curiously went up to the 9th floor (New Hot Point). Since I don't look gaijin at all, I went in, just casually handed the man at the counter 2000 Yen and took a sit on the red couch facing the counter (there was nobody else waiting).Since this was my first time visiting a nozoki place, I was getting a bit excited. But the guy asked me a question "blah blah blah. Blah blah. Digital camera. Blah blah blah? " So, I just said "Iie" and kept sitting on the couch. But the guy asked me the same question again (I think it's worth noting that I speak absolutely no Japanese, even though I look somewhat Japanese and certainly dress like one).So, I got up and casually showed him my iPod touch that was in my coat pocket, just to confirm that I had no other electric devices on me. But this man asked me another question, this time with the word along the lines of "katai" or "kitai" or "taki" or "kt". Since I had no fucking clue, I just put my iPod in a little basket with red numbered tags in it. As I put my iPod in there, he picked up one of the red tags, so I assumed that he would hold onto that MP3 player and give me the tag. But, he took another look at the iPod and asked me the same question using the unknown "kt" word above. I think I should've just said "iie" once more and taken a sit back on the couch, but I gave up to my subconscious language coach and answered, "Summimasen, I don't speak English. "BOOM.A silence.Then the guy said, "No, no, no. Here, " and gave me the 2000 Yen back. He didn't look pissed, but a bit annoyed, I would presume.Ok, so the place on the 7th floor is CLOSED. And the 9th floor one is definitely not forgiving for non-Japanese speakers. (I don't think I ruined it for other gaijins because I really don't look like a traditional "gaijin. " People think that I am Japanese. Perhaps the man thought I was a Japanese person who couldn't speak Japanese for some odd reason. Like being schooled abroad or something. This is just my excuse.)Since I am leaving in a couple of days and because I got turned back, I am now more eager to go experience nozoki. Does anybody have other suggestions? I've searched in this thread and found out the Chris USA + Pastel place, but nobody has put up detailed report of those places.Can I just casually go up to Chris USA on the 5th floor (a street to the west of the aforementioned New Hot Point place) and pay 2000 yen to get in? What if I want to get extra service? I know that at Chris USA, I can only touch the girl's upper body for a certain fee and the lower part for some extra yen. Do I play those at the counter as I go in? Or do I slip the extra service fees into some slit when the show starts? What about Pastel? The website gives detailed information about Service A and B for 4200 yen and 3000 yen, respectively. Do I just say "Sebisu A kudasai", pay 4200 at the counter, and go in? Any advice would be highly appreciated. Thanks everybody, and sorry that I couldn't get a real report for the New Hot Point place (I'll give it some time and try it again in March when I come back to Tokyo). But, if someone helps me out with the Chris USA and Patel places, I will definitely write up a detailed report for those two.Thanks all.The tencho was asking if you have a 'keitai'. A mobile phone. And if your Japanese is that poor, forget trying to use any of those unless you have a Japanese speaking person go with you. Call AM and get an English speaking escort to come to you.
Neon Dragon
01-21-08, 04:55
Can you give exact directions for Asian Feeling in Shinjuku?ThnaksOk. Let's just assume that you're coming from the JR Station. Take the East Entrance or B13 entrance (or A9 exit for the metro). This will either place you directly across from Studio Alta or right in front of its main entrance. When you are in front of Studio Alta, walk towards the visible JR rails (this would be "left" if you've just crossed the street to get to Studio Alta). In a few steps, you will start to smell lots of sweet fruits. Take a right onto that street. If you see lots of strawberries and melons chopped up and skewed onto some wooden sticks right as you turn right, then you've reached the right street. Keep following the road. There should be no cars, because it's pedestrian only. On the right side, you will see an adult shop that hangs some maid costumes at its entrance. Then you will see a standing sushi bar and an udon shop. Keep following this road until you reach the major dori on the other side. There should be a very large crosswalk. Now wait for the green light and go across the large 6-lane (i think) road. This is now Kabukitcho, and following this pedestrian-only street will get you directly to the theater. Keep following this road until you pass McDonald's on the right side. Continue to keep track of how many small road you've passed on the left side, because you will need to turn into the first small street you see on your left (this should be immediately after you pass the McDonald's). Now, take a left onto that street and the entrance should be on your right side. The Asian Feeling is on the 5th floor. I hope I am correct. If not, please accept my apologies. p.s.Can anybody please tell me more about chris usa + pastel?Thanks
Dreams,See my post #4371 in this thread. I described where it is and there's a link to a map.
Can you give exact directions for Asian Feeling in Shinjuku?Thnaks
Prius Driver
01-21-08, 11:25
From the many favorable reports of Asian Feeling I decided to visit its newly opened sister shop Asian Relax. From the website it's only 25 seconds away from Asian Feeling. I've never been to Asian Feeling but they are both on the same Center street in Kabukicho. The girls seem to alternate between the two stores so it's best to check their websites if you want to reserve a girl. The girl's weekly schedules are updated every Sunday.I decided to go with Ami and since she is now working at Asian Relax I decided to go there. I rang up to reserve Ami the day before and I was glad I did. Ami is the only girl listed on the website as speaking English. From what Inasia has said, I sure some of the other girls can speak English too. I booked for 5pm but was told that Ami would finish with another client around that time so 5:30pm was what we settled on.From Shinjuku station it's about a 5 minute walk. Center street is next street on the left from the street with MacDonald's on it. Walking down Center street it's on your left on the second floor. As I entered the very bright reception room I saw that there was already a western guy waiting. On that night, half the clients were western. I guess word has gotten around that this place is good.I chose the 2 hour oil massage course. I printed and brought with me the 1000 yen off coupon which can be found on their website. The girl choosing fee is 1000 yen and the massage was 16,000 yen. There is also a towel fee of 500 yen. So with the discount coupon, the price became 16,500 yen. The towel fee is necessary because during the massage you get a hot towel massage. You are covered with hot towels and then a canvas blanket is laid on top of you. Kind of felt like you were in a big hot cocoon. Then you are given a nice massage with the hot towels on you. I get this treatment at many a CMP.Ami was very friendly and extremely playful. She does look better than her picture as Kiyomori has said. Her English is very good and she could understand most of what I said including my jokes. Her massage technique is a little bit soft for my taste but in hindsight she got it just right. I didn't get a sore body that I usually get from a strong massage but the massage did loosen me up. The HJ was nice too. I will definitely book her again.I got a back and leg massage for around an hour, Half an hour of HJ and then half an hour of face massage and a quick strong massage to finish off. So with clean rooms and a small but clean shower, I thoroughly recommend this place if you are looking for a nice massage followed by a happy ending.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Hi,I am reporting about Korean Delivery Health(KDH) in Uguisudani. Since I am not interested in anything that doesn't include FS, this is a good option for me in terms of quality/price. It seems that most of the KDH in Tokyo are based around Uguisudani. Me: Westerner, 30s, japanese-speaking.Usually I get a room at one of the love hotels around Uguisudani, on weekends in the afternoon you can get a room for <5000 yen for 3 hours. No problem to get in alone. I've tried different KDH agencies and service/quality varies greatly. I would say 90% of the girls have no problem with westerners, they just seem a bit surprised when I open the door. One agency I recommend it K-Girls (http://k-girls.jp/top.html). The girls on the website are the actual girls (some photoshopping, measurements may not be accurate). Usually I ask for a specific girl and if they send a different girl I refuse, there's nothing to pay. K-girls have been pretty nice, usually after refusing I make it clear I want the girl on the website and if she is not available they should tell me and usually they do. 100 mins course is 23000 yen(say that you've seen their homepage and you get 2000 off). FS included, 2 shots... not a bad deal. Including the room total damage is below 30000 yen. Anyway here's a list of agencies I've usedK-girls (http://k-girls.jp/top.html)Service is good, girls on the site are real. Recommend.Palace (http://www.palace-dh.com/)Same owner as K-girls, recommendedEntarra (http://www.entaraa.com/)Used it once, was the girl on the site. Attitude was so-soMink (http://www.derimink.com/main.html)Used it once, was the girl on the site, service was OK.Nobless (http://nnobless.com/index.html)Called a couple of times, they always send a different girl(no the one on the web site), not recommendedFellini (http://www.fellini0306.com/index2.html)Japanese agency, pochari type. FS included. Used it once, Mahiru-san,she was nice. Recommended if you like chubby girlsMost of the mama-san are Korean, when I call they can't tell I'm not Japanese, I always give a Japanese name. I don't think they speak English so you might wanna have someone call for you if you don't speak Japanese. Also, some of the girls(Korean) don't speak that much Japanese or English.Anyway, I think KDH are a pretty good deal but your milleage may vary.Have fun!EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
The Tanuki
01-21-08, 12:07
Dreams,See my post #4371 in this thread. I described where it is and there's a link to a map.The map is pretty good. The street that this place is on dead ends into a theater building. My first time around I missed it, as I was closer to the left and didn't look up to see the big sign on the second level of the building that has 2 Thai babes smiling at you.One of the handy points of Kabukicho is that you don't need to feel shy about going to the "mizushobai" joints, cuz everyone else is there for similar reasons.Wantacunta
I am reporting about Korean Delivery Health(KDH) in Uguisudani. Since I am not interested in anything that doesn't include FS, this is a good option for me in terms of quality/price. It seems that most of the KDH in Tokyo are based around Uguisudani. Thanks for the info. One question I have, if you wouldn't mind helping out with. It's a little embarrassing, but even though my Japanese is basically fluent, I have no idea what phrase I would start off with for a deriheru? What do you usually open with? It would help me out a great deal :)
even though my Japanese is basically fluent, I have no idea what phrase I would start off with for a deriheru? What do you usually open with? I would not describe my Japanese as basically fluent, but I've been able to successfully use DH after making a phone reservation by saying something along the lines of "Yoyaku wo onegaishitain desu ga. ". As you must certainly be aware, "desu ga" is probably the most useful phrase for non-fluent Japanese speakers because it basically prompts the other person to do the talking. From that point, the person taking the reservation will start to ask you questions, so it should be easy from there. I'm sure there's a better way to engage them and that my way probably isn't gramatically correct, but it seems to work.Good Luck!
Am planning a first time visit to Club Boo tomorrow (am a satisfied AM customer), and want to get my preference list in order just in case they don`t have who i want. I'm sure I've had Momo, and probably Akubi too over the past few years. I'm sorry I'm not much help there. I've used CB many times, and had some regular preferences. Of the girls pictured on the schedule who you can see, they're all fine choices. I was never disappointed by any CB girl who showed up. Just happier with a couple of my "regulars". I found that, even though someone was scheduled, they weren't available that night for whatever reason. Or sometimes they weren't available at the time I wanted. Because I was always satisfied with every choice who arrived, I stopped making a priority list. If the one or two I wanted weren't available, I'd ask who was and make the decision then. It was a little easier looking at the website photos while on the phone. But Boo Mama can always give a description if you're not online. I too was a satisfied AM customer (and still am). I became more of a CB regular because I thought the women were more beautiful, though more expensive. Each had excellent service. CB just a little more beautiful generally.
Thanks for the info. One question I have, if you wouldn't mind helping out with. It's a little embarrassing, but even though my Japanese is basically fluent, I have no idea what phrase I would start off with for a deriheru? What do you usually open with? It would help me out a great deal :)Do you mean when you phone the agency? If so, you can make it brief yet polite by a greeting, then, for example, "Kyou no gogo 1 ji goro _____san ni aitaindesukedo..." You can also say "______san to asobitaindesukedo..." although this sounds a little less polite, I think--I use it only after having used the agency once or twice.Another way you can ask is "Sumimasenga, kyou 1 ji goro ______san ga shukkin dekiru deshouka." "Shukkin" means work or dispatch. If the woman you want isn't working, you can ask for a second or third choice by saying, "Soredeha, ___________san ha daijoubu/ii deshouka."I've used these expressions from the beginning and have been told by many of the women when they arrive that the dispatcher told them maybe I was a gaijin, but my request sounded so natural and usual that they weren't sure.
So I've been here a few days and the racism concerning P2P is such a buzzkill. I've certainly encountered it in Korea despite my Asian face, but at least they were blunt about it so that I could properly respond. Here in Japan, they go out of their way to be polite all the time, even when basically spouting racism. It's tricky to deal with. After 3 rejections due to my extremely rusty Japanese, I began to get impatient and didn't bother looking after that.I did find Asian Relax, and 10000 yen for something I could get for 65 USD in Korea? No thanks. If anything, I'd give AM a call but I'm still on the fence about committing all that money. I can't believe that tonight was a reason for me to WANT to go back to Korea.I also tried looking for that strip club place. It sounds really interesting but I wasn't able to find the building with the 9th floor. If anyone is down to monger Thursday/Friday/Saturday let me know. I've also read on another website that there is another strip club in Ueno, but that information could be dated. Any advice?
Gamma Ray 007
01-23-08, 00:08
I also tried looking for that strip club place.See http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441bece037115a5454&z=12&om=0 for conventional strip theaters.
So I've been here a few days and the racism concerning P2P is such a buzzkill. I've certainly encountered it in Korea despite my Asian face, but at least they were blunt about it so that I could properly respond. Here in Japan, they go out of their way to be polite all the time, even when basically spouting racism. It's tricky to deal with. After 3 rejections due to my extremely rusty Japanese, I began to get impatient and didn't bother looking after that.I did find Asian Relax, and 10000 yen for something I could get for 65 USD in Korea? No thanks. If anything, I'd give AM a call but I'm still on the fence about committing all that money. I can't believe that tonight was a reason for me to WANT to go back to Korea.I also tried looking for that strip club place. It sounds really interesting but I wasn't able to find the building with the 9th floor. If anyone is down to monger Thursday/Friday/Saturday let me know. I've also read on another website that there is another strip club in Ueno, but that information could be dated. Any advice?I have been to 2 of the strip clubs mentionned in the map given by in a recent post. TS and DX in Kabukicho and the one in Ueno. Quite an interesting experience, but no pink room as far as I know. But worth a visit if you have a few hours to kill.
Stickmanfob
01-23-08, 02:21
Does anyone know what happened to Sakura from AM? She was posted on the site for a few days and then taken off. I met up with her and she was willing to please and it was an overall great experience. Wanted to schedule another appointment but I looked at the website and her picture is gone. Does anyone have the inside story?
You didn't say where the 3 rejections were but I was out over the weekend and had 12 rejections at healths in Shimbashi, Kanda, Akihabara and Ueno. The first two pissed me off just because I was rejected and that's human nature. After those 2 I started expecting it and didn't waste time and moved on to the next place on my list (I did quite a bit of scouting online before going out and trying) and kept getting rejections. This is part of the price we pay for being foreigners. I have an in at a place in Gotanda that is absolutely off-limits to foreigners because I cultivated it for a long time. I need to call ahead at this place and be very discreet when I go in, never enter when there are customers around, etc. and the tencho welcomes my business. Of course, it could disappear at any time so I don't take it for granted. One slight hassle about it is that occasionally, the girl will call the front when we're done and we'll be held back in the room for several minutes until the lobby area clears of customers and there is no chance that I will be seen by another customer. That's kind of the way things are at soaps but not usually at healths that I've been to.
So I've been here a few days and the racism concerning P2P is such a buzzkill. I've certainly encountered it in Korea despite my Asian face, but at least they were blunt about it so that I could properly respond. Here in Japan, they go out of their way to be polite all the time, even when basically spouting racism. It's tricky to deal with. After 3 rejections due to my extremely rusty Japanese, I began to get impatient and didn't bother looking after that.
Ok. Let's just assume that you're coming from the JR Station. Take the East Entrance or B13 entrance (or A9 exit for the metro). This will either place you directly across from Studio Alta or right in front of its main entrance. When you are in front of Studio Alta, walk towards the visible JR rails (this would be "left" if you've just crossed the street to get to Studio Alta). In a few steps, you will start to smell lots of sweet fruits. Take a right onto that street. If you see lots of strawberries and melons chopped up and skewed onto some wooden sticks right as you turn right, then you've reached the right street. Keep following the road. There should be no cars, because it's pedestrian only. On the right side, you will see an adult shop that hangs some maid costumes at its entrance. Then you will see a standing sushi bar and an udon shop. Keep following this road until you reach the major dori on the other side. There should be a very large crosswalk. Now wait for the green light and go across the large 6-lane (i think) road. This is now Kabukitcho, and following this pedestrian-only street will get you directly to the theater. Keep following this road until you pass McDonald's on the right side. Continue to keep track of how many small road you've passed on the left side, because you will need to turn into the first small street you see on your left (this should be immediately after you pass the McDonald's). Now, take a left onto that street and the entrance should be on your right side. The Asian Feeling is on the 5th floor. I hope I am correct. If not, please accept my apologies. p.s.Can anybody please tell me more about chris usa + pastel?ThanksThanks, directions were spot on, no problem to find. I would just add a people should rememeber that there are several MacDonalds in Kabukicho, so do follow those directions carefully, otherwise you will end up erring around other MacDos.Now a short report:Once you have gone through the rather derelict staircase and lift, you get in on the 5th flooor into a nice small place; greeting in basic English by a nice guy. Discover that the option of Standard massage at Yens 6000 does not include HJ, so decided to take the 1h 10000Yens oil massege option, which include HJWas taken to my cubicle, by my girl. A young short, slim Thai girl. Nothing to rave about, but gentle, smiling, and speaking a few basic worlds of English. Got to the shower, non assisted, but drying assisted. Was given a cup of coffe.The girl does not undress. But the massge was one of the best since a long time. During the last 15 min, she settled for the HJ in a way that I could not touch her. I assumed it was a nice way to tell me that this was not on offer Did not really care, since, again, this was one of the best HJ I ever had. Lasted a good 15 min, working on every part, including alls until I finally climaxed, one of the best since long. All in all, unless you are desperate for more intimate relations, this is quite a good deal in Tokyo..(Not point to compare with Bangkok, Korea or the Moon, since we are in Tokyo...)Sorry can't remember the name of the girl.Thanks to those who reported this place, that's one more good gaijin friendly place.
That's kind of the way things are at soaps but not usually at healths that I've been to.I have one naiive question: Does this "discrimination" mostly happen at Health and other places that you want to enter for service or does it also happen with DH (assuming your Japanese is reasonable)?My experience is very, very limited (2 or 3 times)...but I've been able to get DH service as a foreigner with 2 of the places telling me that they'd never had a gaijin client before. Of course, I should probably chalk this up to luck, but was wondering if the experiences are purely discriminaton or if they think that they are "protecting their franchise" by not alienating their target clientele. There's a subtle difference between the 2 in intent although the net result is the same for us foreigners (discrimination).
In general, yes. Healths are licensed, legitimate and FS is not available (except in NK, I guess) and you can see the health certificate(s) on the wall. The ladies are usually tested for STDs and the price is usually higher for what you get (40 minutes might cost Y12000). The licensed places are almost always staffed by young Japanese ladies.Esute are usually not licensed and often are Chinese or Korean. They are cheaper (45 minutes might cost Y7000, FS for Y10000) and the ladies are usually not tested for STDs.I don't know about DH.
I have one naiive question: Does this "discrimination" mostly happen at Health and other places that you want to enter for service or does it also happen with DH (assuming your Japanese is reasonable)?My experience is very, very limited (2 or 3 times)...but I've been able to get DH service as a foreigner with 2 of the places telling me that they'd never had a gaijin client before. Of course, I should probably chalk this up to luck, but was wondering if the experiences are purely discriminaton or if they think that they are "protecting their franchise" by not alienating their target clientele. There's a subtle difference between the 2 in intent although the net result is the same for us foreigners (discrimination).
Manimi just left my hotel room a few minutes ago. I am still trying to recover.A real tsunamiI wont get into details, after all the excitement is to discover the events as the session progresses. So if you are up for it just go!Suffice to say that she is a fun loving girl, confident, and uninhibited. Speaks very good english. And has all the right curves at the right place.Happy to answer specific questions by PM to Senior members serious about hiring her, no generic questions please..Cheers,Dreams,
I'm currently reporting from a pc cafe in Nishi Kawaguchi. It's about 3-5 pm on Friday and it is DEAD. I got a tout telling me that his place was the only one accepting gaijin (and after constant rejection from al the other clubs like Crystal, that pink building, etc.) I decided to just try it. The price was listed as 8000 yen for BBBJ but he charged 10,000. I tried to explain his own menu to him and he gave me back 1000 plus a drink.I paid my 9000 and got service from Kanna, a girl who does not deserve to be called a working girl. Service was TERRIBLE, I repeat, TERRIBLE, and I would definitely not recommend this place as it is a total ripoff. We had 40 minutes (more like 30 by my count) and she kept using teeth and hands (didn't want to put all of it in her mouth) and said touching was ok but was still reluctant having my hands on her. Total turnoff.The place is called Celeb 109 and is on the corner perpendicular to an internet gaming place. AVOID AT ALL COSTS! The guy wouldn't let me change girls, so I ended up not popping at all and basically practicing my Japanese with the girl, who was sadly kind of slow because she didn't even go to high school. Of course, that could be just a lie. Can you tell that I'm frustrated?I left without cursing or saying any derogatory things about the establishment. In retrospect, I should have, to do the rest of us a favor. God, what a disappointment. Sorry for being all pissy, had to vent somewhere. The racism here is worse than Korea, and believe me, I am shocking myself by putting that out there.I've RTFF for a while in this past week, and had high hopes for this place. I hope that my loss will be able to save at least a few others from doing the same horrible experience. No refunds, no remorse, not even a "sumimasen." Yep...I'm pretty much done mongering here.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
See http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441bece037115a5454&z=12&om=0 for conventional strip theaters.I went to the Asakusa Rock Theater yesterday. Let me correct some info: that website lists the wrong location and wrong name. It is actually Rockza, with rainbow colored letters, and it's 6000 yen a showing. No touching, no pink room, etc., just watching. However, it was actually quite entertaining, as the girls put on quite a production. The girls were also top quality, and very eye-pleasing indeed. I didn't feel ripped off like I did in Nishi Kawaguchi. (see report below)But yeah, I still would like to find one of those infamous rooms that let you watch AND the girl gives out HJs to the tippers. With my experience so far in Tokyo, the priority on that task is pretty much nothing unless someone posts a detailed report with accurate information. (not demanding, just saying)
Davidinjapan
01-25-08, 09:53
Found her webpage while looking around. Wanted to know if any one has tried her yet or recoginze her from anywhere her website is below. If not am giving it a try anyway and well get back to you guys on what she is like.http://www.geocities.jp/tokyoplaygirl_s/sakura2.html
Found her webpage while looking around. Wanted to know if any one has tried her yet or recoginze her from anywhere her website is below. If not am giving it a try anyway and well get back to you guys on what she is like.http://www.geocities.jp/tokyoplaygirl_s/sakura2.htmlShe was mentioned here just recently. How about checking the forum before asking?
I went to the Asakusa Rock Theater yesterday. Let me correct some info: that website lists the wrong location and wrong name. It is actually Rockza, with rainbow colored letters, and it's 6000 yen a showing. No touching, no pink room, etc., just watching. However, it was actually quite entertaining, as the girls put on quite a production. The girls were also top quality, and very eye-pleasing indeed. I didn't feel ripped off like I did in Nishi Kawaguchi. (see report below)But yeah, I still would like to find one of those infamous rooms that let you watch AND the girl gives out HJs to the tippers. With my experience so far in Tokyo, the priority on that task is pretty much nothing unless someone posts a detailed report with accurate information. (not demanding, just saying)Funny, I also went to this strip theater on Thursday..I agree with yoiu, that's entertaining, and the girls, costumes and production are nice. But nothing terribly sexy.If you have not yet been, go to the 2 Shinjuku strip theaters, DX and TS, they are far smaller and more contact with the girls, although no pjnk room as far as I know.
Cool Mint,Sorry to hear about the lame experience. It has been mentioned in previous post, but I strongly recommend trying Jan Jan. There are some previous post about it and of the couple times I have been there I felt I got my moneys worth.
I'm currently reporting from a pc cafe in Nishi Kawaguchi. It's about 3-5 pm on Friday and it is DEAD. I got a tout telling me that his place was the only one accepting gaijin (and after constant rejection from al the other clubs like Crystal, that pink building, etc.) I decided to just try it. The price was listed as 8000 yen for BBBJ but he charged 10,000. I tried to explain his own menu to him and he gave me back 1000 plus a drink.I paid my 9000 and got service from Kanna, a girl who does not deserve to be called a working girl. Service was TERRIBLE, I repeat, TERRIBLE, and I would definitely not recommend this place as it is a total ripoff. We had 40 minutes (more like 30 by my count) and she kept using teeth and hands (didn't want to put all of it in her mouth) and said touching was ok but was still reluctant having my hands on her. Total turnoff.The place is called Celeb 109 and is on the corner perpendicular to an internet gaming place. AVOID AT ALL COSTS! The guy wouldn't let me change girls, so I ended up not popping at all and basically practicing my Japanese with the girl, who was sadly kind of slow because she didn't even go to high school. Of course, that could be just a lie. Can you tell that I'm frustrated?I left without cursing or saying any derogatory things about the establishment.?In retrospect, I should have, to do the rest of us a favor. God, what a disappointment. Sorry for being all pissy, had to vent somewhere. The racism here is worse than Korea, and believe me, I am shocking myself by putting that out there.I've RTFF for a while in this past week, and had high hopes for this place. I hope that my loss will be able to save at least a few others from doing the same horrible experience. No refunds, no remorse, not even a "sumimasen." Yep...I'm pretty much done mongering here.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Kurosawa00
01-27-08, 07:31
Based on the reports thought I'd try asian mystique. Setting up the appointment was easy. Based on the forum feedback was torn between manami & mako but decided on mako. She's much better looking in person than on the web site. Very gfe. I must have forgotten about previous reports but was surprised when she offered CIM and was happy to oblige. Overall session was good. The only thing I wasn't too keen on was her breasts were ultra sensitive not that I was gnawing on them on anything so for the rest of the session stayed away from that area.
Evan Stoner
01-27-08, 11:33
Interesting article.http://mdn.mainichi.jp/culture/waiwai/news/20080126p2g00m0dm010000c.htmlES
Friendly Gaijin
01-27-08, 11:48
I have been to JanJan today for the first time.I had no trouble getting in. The tout waiting at the door waved me in. There was also no problem downstairs. I was not sure about that, since there was a report here lately about someone getting blocked.Downstairs I was told the conditions, 3000 for twenty minutes. I asked if I could choose someone (shimei).I try to do that as far as possible since the 2000 Yen extra arrive in full amount in the service provider's pocket, giving a good first impression.The answer in this particular shop was slightly hesitant. I could choose for an extra 3000. Since I was here the first time I decided to just go with the flow and the default option.That gave me a CBJ, today with Cola flavor. I brought my own condoms, which I buy in different flavors, so as to make her job slightly easier. The girl was younger than those I had in my last two visits at Hinomaru. She was friendly and competent.So, yes, I would second that recommendation.
Cool Mint,Sorry to hear about the lame experience. It has been mentioned in previous post, but I strongly recommend trying Jan Jan. There are some previous post about it and of the couple times I have been there I felt I got my moneys worth.
Friendly Gaijin
01-27-08, 12:09
Last time I visited Mikado in Ikebukuro they still had a seperate room (koshitsu). 2000 Yen extra. There are no pink rooms at the Shinjuku strip joints.
Funny, I also went to this strip theater on Thursday.I agree with yoiu, that's entertaining, and the girls, costumes and production are nice. But nothing terribly sexy.If you have not yet been, go to the 2 Shinjuku strip theaters, DX and TS, they are far smaller and more contact with the girls, although no pjnk room as far as I know.
interesting article.http://mdn.mainichi.jp/culture/waiwai/news/20080126p2g00m0dm010000c.htmlesread some of the other articles in wai wai scary shit there, some ladies traping guys into blackmail.that why i feel so safe using am or something like that.topos
Last time I visited Mikado in Ikebukuro they still had a seperate room (koshitsu). 2000 Yen extra. There are no pink rooms at the Shinjuku strip joints.Did not know about this strip joint in Ikebukuro.Can you give some directions? I don't read nor speak japanese, so Japanese websites are of little if any help to me...And the 2000 extras get you what? A BJ with the girls of your choice? Covered or not?Thanks,Cheers!
Based on the reports thought I'd try asian mystique. Setting up the appointment was easy. Based on the forum feedback was torn between manami & mako but decided on mako. She's much better looking in person than on the web site. Very gfe. I must have forgotten about previous reports but was surprised when she offered CIM and was happy to oblige. Overall session was good. The only thing I wasn't too keen on was her breasts were ultra sensitive not that I was gnawing on them on anything so for the rest of the session stayed away from that area.In teh"breast" department, I don't think any one can beat Manimi....Since I am a breast lover, I am glad I picked her up rather than Mako...
Gamma Ray 007
01-28-08, 09:51
I found the J1 building and the sign for the New Hot Point nozoki place on the top floor that has been frequently mentioned here. See http://www.new-hot-point.com/map.html for a map, but I still struck out on entry. I walked right up to the fellow at the desk with my usually-effective casual friendliness and plunked down my 4000 yet for entry and hand service. He pushed back the second two, and when I pointed at the menu for the hand service he said, "You American?" I nodded and he reluctantly pushed back the rest of the notes. Bummer. But I left with a "so sorry" and a friendly wave and at least didn't burn things for the next fellow to come along. If anyone wanted to offer a script to memorize I would love to have another try.
Gamma Ray 007
01-28-08, 10:09
Did not know about this strip joint in Ikebukuro.Can you give some directions? See http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441bece037115a5454&ll=35.742332,139.74678&spn=0.127347,0.230713&z=12&om=0&iwloc=000441bfe8bafab94d9f1 for a map to the Mikado-Gekijyo theater. While their web site (http://www.mikado-gekijyo.com/top.htm) is in Japanese, you can use Google language-tools to get enough info out of the site to really help out.
Friendly Gaijin
01-28-08, 12:50
I am not sure what exactly happens for the money, since I never tried it myself. I just asked once at the front about it in Japanese and had the impression I might get access there. At the time I was visiting that place rather often just to look at the show and buy some polaroid pictures.You don't get to choose the girl. Only one of the girls will do that job. She will be in the business for a long time and very experienced. The younger girls will never set a foot in that separate room.It might be difficult to get access to the separate room if you don't speak Japanese. On the other hand, it should be no problem just to go watch the show.Hope this helps.
Did not know about this strip joint in Ikebukuro.Can you give some directions? I don't read nor speak japanese, so Japanese websites are of little if any help to me.And the 2000 extras get you what? A BJ with the girls of your choice? Covered or not?Thanks,Cheers!
The problem is that you put 4,000 down at the entrance, so he knew you hadn't been before and didn't know the system. You're supposed to pay 2,000 at the door, and then 2,000 to the girl who comes to your booth later if you want extra service.
I found the J1 building and the sign for the New Hot Point nozoki place on the top floor that has been frequently mentioned here. See http://www.new-hot-point.com/map.html for a map, but I still struck out on entry. I walked right up to the fellow at the desk with my usually-effective casual friendliness and plunked down my 4000 yet for entry and hand service. He pushed back the second two, and when I pointed at the menu for the hand service he said, "You American?" I nodded and he reluctantly pushed back the rest of the notes. Bummer. But I left with a "so sorry" and a friendly wave and at least didn't burn things for the next fellow to come along. If anyone wanted to offer a script to memorize I would love to have another try.
Based on the forum feedback was torn between manami & mako but decided on mako. Agree with your assessment of Mako. I've had her over several times, and was always happy with her service. Attractively thin, but with large breasts.
On the Club Boo schedule I see Lime is on for tonight. That's unusual. I've used CB for about 3 years, and have only seen her on the schedule once or twice maybe, and those were within the past 6 months or so. I tried to arrange an appointment with her a couple of times last year, but she wasn't available. I'm not in Tokyo right now, otherwise I'd give her a go, and a review. She's gorgeous in the photos, but at "Platinum" prices, she should be. If anyone gets together with her tonight, please give her a review. I've never read a review on her before.
Henry Fielding
01-29-08, 10:28
After some time reading the contributions to the Tokyo forum, and after some time living in this city, I think it is time to add my two cents to the community and to the discussions.In my mongering experience I have found four types of providers/stablishments about which I will speak here. I have no experience with escort agencies (such as Boo, AM or Alla) or with upscale soaplands.1. Pick salons.In the past I visited Sugamo salons several times. With time, I must say, the service quality has decreased to the point of making them not worth the visit.My first visit cost 3000 yen for three girls. And from that down to one single girl for the same price. Only lately ?four months ago-- I got two girls, but the quality was terrible.Not much can be added to what has been said in the forum. None of the girls is a beauty, and the skills are very variable. Some become naked, some not; some allow some access to their private areas and some don?t.The privacy of the whole thing is precarious. I also have some concerns regarding the hygiene. A monger mentioned that he took a towel to avoid direct contact with the bench or the shop towel. A good idea, I add.Sugamo pink salons tolerance for foreigners depends on each of them. Only the first one on the right consistently allowed me in. The rest have rejected me at one time or another.I have no experience in Supergirls in Shimbashi.2. Esute.A lot of scams and bad experiences in this area. At the end I narrow my options to two. Yuri in Nippori and YouYou in Sugamo. In both cases, the price is 8500 yen per session (Yuri has the discount time before 6:00 PM), and only one pop is allowed.I grew to trust the tout welcoming you at the door without asking to see the pictures ?no real in the case of YouYou? or the girls. All in all, my experiences are correct with some ups and downs. I did not feel ripped off. The staff changes very often. Always Chinese.In these establishments, the routine is always the same. Shower, a light massage, and intercourse. The girl, too often, does not take much action and lets the customer to move with some fake moans or with some demands to finish soon.Both places admit foreigners. In Yuri, the tout speaks some English. Not the case in YouYou.3. Soaplands.I am only speaking about New York New York and Champs Elys?e in Ueno. Particularly, about the latest.I might have been lucky in my visits, but this is the place to go if you want to feel pampered. There is no FS in there, but the provider does work for her money in washing you and making sure you have a happy ending. Some mongers have complained that the satisfaction relies heavily on the provider. I only had one miss ?my first and only time at NYNY. My experiences at Champs have been consistently good: nice washing, good BBBJ, nice anal rimming, blow job to end.Both places admit foreigners. They always ask if that is the first time you go there for the sole purpose to make you understand the rules: no intercourse.4. Street walkers in Shin Okubo area.I have tried them twice. The price is negotiable and ranges between 10000 and 20000 yen plus hotel. One of them was Colombian ?terrible experience--, and the other Japanese.Most of the providers in there are Thais. Assorted looks and ages. On Sundays, the providers can be different and you can find some Japanese middle age women.What strikes me most is that the independent street walkers charge more than the providers in esutes, where the running costs of the business are actually higher and the providers receive less money. This must be the Japanese way of understanding capitalism.My conclusion after some years of mongering in Japan is that in general you have to fight for what they promised you before paying, the exception being the Japanese providers. In the esutes, providers and touts try to reduce the service time and rush you to finish. I never felt rushed in Champs, and the 50 min of the basic fee (9200 yen) is what you get.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Henry Fielding
01-30-08, 04:19
(Excuse the possible repetition.- I only wanted to edit some minor mistakes)After some time reading the contributions to the Tokyo forum, and after some time living in this city, I think it is time to add my two cents to the community and to the discussions.In my mongering experience I have found four types of providers/establishments about which I will speak here. I have no experience with escort agencies (such as Boo, AM or Alla) or with upscale soaplands.1. Pick salons. In the past I visited Sugamo salons several times. With time, I must say, the service quality has decreased to the point of making them not worth the visit.My first visit cost 3000 yen for three girls. And from that down to one single girl for the same price. Only lately ?four months ago-- I got two girls for 3000 yen, but the quality was terrible.Not much can be added to what has been said in the forum. None of the girls is a beauty, and the skills are very variable. Some become naked, some not; some allow some access to their private areas and some don?t.The privacy of the whole thing is precarious. I also have some concerns regarding the hygiene. A monger mentioned that he took a towel to avoid direct contact with the bench or the shop towel. A good idea, I add.Sugamo pink salons tolerance for foreigners depends on each of them. Only the first one on the right consistently allowed me in. The rest have rejected me at one time or another.I have no experience with Supergirls in Shimbashi.2. Esute.A lot of scams and bad experiences in this area. At the end I narrowed my options to two. Yuri in Nippori and YouYou in Sugamo. In both cases, the basic fee is 8500 yen per session (Yuri has the discount time before 6:00 PM), and only one pop is allowed.I grew to trust the tout welcoming you at the door without asking to see the pictures ?no real in the case of YouYou? or the girls. All in all, my experiences are correct with some ups and downs. I did not feel ripped off. The staff changes very often. Always Chinese.In these establishments, the routine is always the same. Shower, a light massage, and intercourse. The girl, too often, does not take much action and lets the customer to move with some fake moans or with some demands to finish soon.Both places admit foreigners. In Yuri, the tout speaks some English. Not the case in UU.3. Soaplands.I am only speaking about New York New York and Champs Elys?e in Ueno. Particularly, about the latest.I might have been lucky in my visits, but this is the place to go if you want to feel pampered. There is no FS in there, but the provider does work for her money in washing you and making sure you have a happy ending. Some mongers have complained that the satisfaction relies heavily on the provider. I only had one miss ?my first and only time at NYNY. My experiences at Champs have been consistently good: nice washing, good BBBJ, nice anal rimming, blow job to end.Both places admit foreigners. They always ask if that is the first time you go there for the sole purpose to make you understand the rules: no intercourse.4. Street walkers in Shin Okubo area.I have tried them twice. The price is negotiable and ranges between 10000 and 20000 yen plus hotel. One of them was Colombian ?terrible experience--, and the other Japanese.Most of the providers in there are Thais. Assorted looks and ages. On Sundays, the providers can be different and you can find some Japanese middle aged women.What strikes me the most is that the independent street walkers charge more than the providers in esutes, where the running costs of the business are actually higher and the providers receive less money. This must be the Japanese way of understanding capitalism.My conclusion after some years of mongering in Japan is that in general you have to fight for what they promised you before paying, the exception being the Japanese providers. In the esutes, providers and touts try to reduce the service time and rush you to finish. I never felt rushed in Champs, and the 50 min of the basic fee (9200 yen) is what you get.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Gamma Ray 007
01-30-08, 05:43
I paid a visit to the Mikado-Gekijyo strip theater in Ikebukuro on the rumor that it had a pink-room. By the way, the map for this (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441bece037115a5454&ll=35.732487,139.713599&spn=0.000932,0.001802&z=19&om=0) is dead on, so it is very easy to get to from the N. exit of the Ikebukuro theater. Just head out the North Exit, proceed NE (parallel to the JR tracks) to the first little street on your left. The theater is at the end of the alley and a very welcoming doorman will greet you. It was 4,000 when I went, and my discount ticket did no good as I guess I was some kind of "early bird," arriving about 4:30.The stage was wide and faced by three--I think--rows of bench seats with a runway that juts out from the stage a couple meters. The best seats, IMHO, are on either side of that runway in the SECOND row, as a lot of the close-up floor work is only visible from the 2nd or 3rd rows. There were the usual group of cuties and plenty to enjoy about the show. One in particular was a real delight--big smile, different acts for each show, and a lovely rear end. I saw no sign of a pink room, and nobody in the theater came or went, and if there is one it must be accessed from outside the theater. As I left I asked the doorman, "Is there any 'special' room?" --making a subtle (!) hand-jerking motion--and he assured me, "No! Nothing!" Of course, you should take that comment for what it is worth.After the five young gals did their thing they all came out for an all nude session of close-up high-octane display of pink bits. They were in very good humor, and rotated so if you had a good seat you got to see each one quite well. AFTER the five, a much older woman came out and did a kind of "stroll around in a long dress" routine that didn't do much for anybody, as far as I could tell, but when she left the stage a young man hopped up and knelt down in the center. "Oh, no," I thought, "I don't want to see his dick!" When the performer came back out it was obvious that he was the human prop. She controlled all the events quite thoroughly--definitely not her first time--and the chunky young guys job was to comply. He began by giving her a furious pat-down under her dress, then moved to massaging her breasts as though kneading a stubborn lump of dough. When her dress came off he was allowed to finger her pussy, which he did with diligence if not grace. He was then invited to dine at the Y, which was followed by the lady extracting a rather small dildo from her box of goodies. Our lad proceeded to shove it in and out energetically, and when she finally had him call a halt, she arched her back and held a pose until she firmly ejected it from her pussy.Then out came the wet wipes, and Junior's lips and hands were wiped off, applause was offered, and applause and polaroids followed. Definitely a first for me--I had never seen a dildo show in Ueno or Shinjuku, or the practice of having five cute young things and one mature lady for the rougher act.I hopped on the train to the Nippori station and tracked down the Yuri esute place also mentioned here. The Google map (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441c0fe6a62cd7a1b2&ll=35.730227,139.770201&spn=0.001864,0.003605&z=18&om=0&iwloc=000441d101e282b4e9731) is very accurate, and it is across the street from the Tokiya hotel but in the middle of the next block North. It was cold and rainy, and the door opened at the top of the stair. A Chinese gentleman was going to close it on me when I said, "Yuri?" Again, door swung. Then I flashed my printout of their website map and I was welcomed in. Interesting!It is quite a funky place--small, with tiny booths just bigger than the towel-covered mattresses. I forked over the 8,500 yen and he took me to a booth, where a young lady waited, apparently of Mongolian descent. She was cute, friendly, possibly in her 30's, and with large breasts discretely augmented. She spoke no Russian, but absolutely lit up and hugged me when I tried a few Mongolian phrases on her. I have no Japanese to speak of, but so far it hadn't hurt me. She helped me clean up in a warm shower, came back to the booth, and was entirely and enthusiastically obliging as I enjoyed touching, fondling, massaging etc. She offered more massage after the main event, but I had had a good time, so another shower and some assisted dressing was all I needed before heading into the night.All in all it was a decent night, with the total bill not too devastating. Yuri's is not for the squeamish, however, but seems to represent real value.
South by SW 2
01-30-08, 09:41
Just wanted to share this odd experience with you guys.On my last trip to Tokyo I stopped by Motown for old time's sake. It was a Friday night and a broker-type gaijin came in with two twenty somethings. I traded some small chat with one of them at the bar as I was getting a refill. The guy leaned over and basically told me that if I said the right things, she'd go home with me and screw me into unconsciousness. Her English was even more limited than my Japanese. Anyway, I obviously didn't say the right things and they packed up to leave after about 20 mins. I gave her one of my nampa cards with my keitai on it.I forgot about her until the following Friday when she sent me a text message asking me if I remembered her, etc. Quickly she asked if I was free that night. I wasn't and she immediately asked about the next day. She offered to come by my hotel. Her eagerness made me suspicious. We went to the Mandarin hotel to have some afternoon tea on Saturday. She was 23, no college, working as a waitress, average looks. Basically what it boiled down to was an enjo kosai (compensated dating) deal. If I buy her a coat she wanted she would be my girlfriend for the remainder of my stay - which was only about three days at that point. We went over to Omotesando to check out the boutique. The coat she had in mind was 210,000 yen. I practically laughed at her. With that amount of money I could fuck myself raw with AM's finest. She quickly fell back to another shop with a 140,000 yen model. I talked her into going to a karaoke booth with the intention of finding out if she was worth the money. I told her I wasn't sure if we would be compatible. But she wasn't interested in giving out free samples. She was insistent that she would be the best girlfriend I ever had, she would see me off at the airport, she was cold without a coat, etc. She simply couldn't comprehend that I wouldn't drop that kind of money on her without so much as a kiss. Even if I bought the coat and kept it until I left for Narita, I'd still basically be hoping that she was worth having around for three days. I had the feeling she'd want to taxi around and go to expensive restaurants.That's basically where it ended. We had this circular discussion going as I packed up and left karaoke box and went down to the street. It probably would have been funny on film, but it was mostly exasperating. Maybe she was a sexual dynamo and I missed the best three days of my life, but there you have it. Hopefully if you guys find yourself in a similar situation, you'll do a better job of negotiating than I did. Or you'll find a semi-pro with more realistic expectations.SbySW
James Midason
01-30-08, 14:24
We went over to Omotesando to check out the boutique. The coat she had in mind was 210,000 yen. I practically laughed at her. With that amount of money I could fuck myself raw with AM's finest. She quickly fell back to another shop with a 140,000 yen model. Hopefully if you guys find yourself in a similar situation, you'll do a better job of negotiating than I did. Or you'll find a semi-pro with more realistic expectations.SbySWI think you made the correct choice. Let her move on. I have had ladies say that same sh*t to me. I tell them that she obviously does not know the current market. Nobody buys a high performance car without first "test driving".Well chief, usually I don't let go of my many tricks and techniques, but these are pretty obvious. I used to play this angle all the time but in reverse. I would offer the enjyo kosai option to gals and let them follow up with me. Allows me to keep "hand". Many of them would insist on getting their "gift" up front. #1 Don't do it. Never. Not even an option. I never did because of the obvious potential consequences. So how do you go about winning this game of sexual chicken (I. E. Who's gonna give it up first? ) Here are some hard and well tested rules: 1. Always meet at a classy or "expensive" looking place. A hotel bar is best. It makes you look like you have the money and good taste (even though many 5 star hotels have a "happy hour", but she don't know that). And dress nice. A suit and all the bling are required for the look.2. You meet at an early evening time like 6. Why? She has probably just gotten off work and not had an opportunity to eat yet. You, on the other hand have just had a huge meal an hour earlier to absorb all the alcohol you are about to consume. And thus will stay in control while she, will spin out of control.3. When she arrives YOU order her a drink, Champaign or a Cosmopolitan, strong drinks to get her drunk quickly. The point of YOU ordering for HER is you set the tone that YOU control the evening.4. Act natural. Don't get right into the deal right away. Keep control. Make her want it and want you. If she brings it up, explain the deal in a vague way, not in detail. Don't say I will buy you a pink diamond Rolex watch. She will be "compensated generously" is enough.5. Keep her drinking. Order her a second and 3rd drink as fast as you can without it being obvious. Explain the deal again in polite terms basically, she fucks you, you take her shopping. Ask if she agrees.6. By this time, it should be close to 8 or 9. You suggest you go back to your room for some more drinks. The point here is. The time. If she's gonna say, "I want my Gucci bag first", great. Where you gonna buy a Gucci bag at 9 in the eve? She's drunk and desperate at this point. Her options are. A) Fuck you and hope that she get's her bag next time or B) Doubt you and leave. But given points 1 5 it's not likely she going to give up on her investment if you have played your cards and your act out perfectly. If she does leave, so what, your investment was what? 2-3 drinks? Still time to call AM or CB.7. The beauty of this plan is that you will get laid on the first night 8 out of 10 times. And if she is in fact a GFE, why not invest in her after all the next time you hook up? If she ain't a GFE you just don't pick up next time she calls. I've done both. Found it to be a very low risk and potentially rewarding option. In fact, if you see my latest post on "Photo Gallery" you'll see my latest pix of a J stripper I basically used the above strategy on. My total investment on her for the night was less than 10, 000 yen.
JHopefully if you guys find yourself in a similar situation, you'll do a better job of negotiating than I did. Or you'll find a semi-pro with more realistic expectations.SbySWInteresting. It sounds quite plausible to me, actually. If you look around the Japanese dating websites, you will find sometimes see messages from girls with very high expections... 100,000 Yen for an evening and/or demand to go to 5 star hotel is not that unusual. Or they want to be go shopping and be spoiled; I think you found out what that means. Or they want to go on an overseas trip, first class of of course.No idea if there are many takers, but it is a free market, and if that is what they want, they can ask for it.
I say with no exaggeration that I have now fully investigated Yoshiwara. I would guess that I went into a solid 50 soaps tonight. I've suffered so you don't have to. I was honestly surprised at the lack of warm and friendly welcomes, although there were a few places that stood out. This may be due to the fact that I concentrated on low-mid-range places, but even the high-end places I tried seemed very mixed. Also, I avoided every place with an bath / entry fee of 25, 000 and up (which means a LOT of places. Probably half). Please, if you know more than this. Tell me! As people seem to need the scene set, I'm American, 30, speak tolerable Japanese, and was wearing a suit since I went after work. I hit on the bright idea of asking politely for a card as a way of showing that I could speak Japanese and also not start with the idiotic 'gaijin dame? ' that I'm sure others use. I now have 16 shop cards, which is pretty cool. Names are going to have to do for you. If you can't look these up and call them in Japanese, you're on your own (as are the people who claim to be mongers but can't figure out where Yoshiwara is! ). Also, the prices are what they are.. Don't listen to the bozos who tell you 30, 000 is 'the average'. I was quoted everything between 12, 000 and 75, 000 yen, often with explicit gaijin charges (especially when I asked), and these are completely correlated to the signs outside. If they have a 'bath entry fee' (three characters, nyu-yoku-ryo, enter-bath-fee) then the prices is 3-3. 5X that. If they state an inclusive price (two complex characters, sou-gaku) then that's the price (unless you're a foreigner, maybe).- Rejections: F-ing EVERYWHERE. I can't even begin to count the places, and I didn't write them down. A LOT of places just gave me a big 'betsu' as soon as the door opened. Only one or two let me get through a little conversation before explaining that gaikoku no kata were.. Surprisingly. Rejected at Academy (someone else posted that they went there? And I'm jealous) and Shogun. Assumed that 75, 000-class places were OK with foreigners. Also a cool Japanese-looking place near there called Ooku (like Dai Oku san, but I got shot down anyway).. Not surprisingly, got shot down at Rei (in the Academy group. Truth? ) and Santa Fe. If anyone has an in to these places, for god's sake tell me, because the picture / price ratio looks great.- Places that were gaijin-friendly with surcharges (generally 90 minutes, price and surcharge in man): Aqua Palace (3, 1=4 man total), Silky Doll (3, 1), Don Quixote (3. 5, 1), Club Naniwa (3. 5, . 5. I think, but they were desperate and there's a lower price on the web. Not many girls though.), Taipei (2. 8, 1. 3. Seriously! ).- Places that just seem cheap and OK: hopefully everyone knows the 'dream7000' group by now, they've been in posts before. I went to one of the cheaper clubs and they turned me down until I showed my 'member's card' from Prima Dona. Romanee Conti (part of the Orange Group, but I know I got canned at several of their other outlets. The guys here were super-nice and talkative.) Tennyo (spelled sora-onna). 60 minutes for 12, 000? In a sweet, decaying Japanese-style environment that looks like it was last redecorated in 1920? I'm so there. Scarlet. Can't remember the price and they don't have a site, but it was cheap.- Places that are expensive but might tempt me: Tokubetsu-ya. I told these guys I was just having a walk and investigating, and they insisted on sitting me down in the waiting room to explain the price (110 min, 7 man), then they made a big deal out of the 'leaving customer'. I'd be theirs for life if I could work myself up for the price. The girls look great on the site (ID: toku, PW: 1212 for the private area). Aristo (2 hours, 7. 5). They were a little rude, but somehow I liked it.OK, that doesn't total 16, but there were a few solid performers that I just can't part with. Sorry.Geez, I should get paid for writing that. Good luck, and for the luvva Pete send me some kinda private message if you have more real info to swap.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Jackazzzz......Just tried to PM you, but apparently your mailbox is not accepting messages. Can you please PM me? I'll be in Tokyo on business in a few weeks, and I wanted to ask you a couple of questions about Tokubetsu-ya. Thanks
Geez, I should get paid for writing that. Good luck, and for the luvva Pete send me some kinda private message if you have more real info to swap.
South by SW 2
01-31-08, 07:06
Thanks for the confirmation guys.James: I appreciate the tips. You mention
I used to play this angle all the time but in reverse. I would offer the enjyo kosai option to gals and let them follow up with me.How do you pick the girls that you extend the offer to? Doesn't seem like it would come up naturally in conversation with a department store cutie. Perhaps with a stripper it might. Great pics, BTW.SbySW
Went to the Higashi-gotanda area and found touts all over the place. Walked around until a gal came up to me and said only, 'Massage? ' She may have been Korean or Chinese, but I didn't think she was Japanese. At least not a classic Tokyo face. I said I wanted sex, not just 'ferra', I wanted to pick a girl and that I didn't want smoking anywhere around. Of course, like all good touts, the answers to all my questions were 'yes, yes, yes. ' I followed.Went up to a third landing in an 'unwonderful' setting. Clutter in the narrow staircase, decaying toothed 'manager' in the smoke filled waiting room, and incessant 'sit' to me. Which I explained outside the room, I couldn't do as the chain-smoking Japanese man in the waiting room was making me sick with his putrid 2nd hand smoke. Not very reinforcing. After 'Smoky' left, I said that I needed to see pictures. The manager had 4, all of which looked quite cute. I said I wanted sex, deep kissing and would not be with a smoking girl. Of course, all were answered with, 'yes, yes, yes. ' I'm a bit skeptical. Maikin (money first 15K for 1hr or 1 Jizzbomb, whichever comes first. I pay and hope the girl is like the photo.Manager goes out one door, and then opens a different door to the smoke-filled waiting room and bows and hand signals a welcome to me to follow him in. I follow him into the 'room'. Approximately 22' long and maybe 15' wide with hospital style ceiling hardware that hangs curtains (like an ER) to make just a bit more than bed sized curtained cubicles (perhaps 8 or so) within the larger room. He pulls back the curtain for one and 'BAM'! There's Shen Min Tsu! She's got a great welcoming smile and is a 9 on the 'no makeup beauty' scale! She tells me 'Kaori' and I tell her I want her real name. She quickly tells me that she's Taiwanese and her name is Shen Min Tsu. She grabs my hand, laughs, and asks about a shower. I just showered before coming to Gotanda (maybe 40 minutes prior) so I decline and she says she'll be back in a couple of minutes. She gives me a plastic hamper for my clothes and she takes off. I'm liking what I've seen and am hoping on a nice 'massage'.I undress except for underware and t-shirt and wait about 3 minutes for Shen Min Tsu. I take her into my arms and we face to face cuddle and she's feeling great, and smelling great. No smoking, fresh hair and fresh skin. She's got a very small light cotton baby-doll top on and string panties.Into the hamper goes my t-shirt and shorts. We do a couple more deep kisses, breaking the kiss sessions with some conversation and laughs. This is FUN! I pull off her top (very cooperative) and I'm kissing and fondling a super great set of titties! I even asked her if they were real or storebought! They are firm, great nipples and standup like cupcakes on her trim body. My hands search her body and with a happy face, she accommodates with a weight shift as as I slip off her string panties. Shen Min Tsu moves her legs open and as we kiss, my hands find the sweet zone. I tenderly touch her vulva and clitoris while kissing her titties, so Shen Min Tsu responds by kissing my titties back. Very nice. She then gets a condom (no BBBJ) all the way on. Shen Min Tsu's oral techniques weren't Porn video quality, but there were no complaints from me on how her mouth felt, we're smiling each time we pause and look at each other close.DFKissing, fondling, raincoat fucking, varied positions. Always with a smile mad e this a great experience. A quick cleanup with tissue and she takes me to a shower and I clean up. When done, and dressing, Shen Min Tsu goes and takes a quick shower and returns. I've got (no surprise) time left on my 60 minutes; so we 'play'. Kiss, hug, touch and talk. She's a cutie that made me feel like this was a great GFE with a 9'er on the beauty scale! For both Face and Body! Too cute! So nice! FFFEDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Friendly Gaijin
01-31-08, 12:21
The pink room used to be located right in the middle of the theater, next to the vending machine. As I have not been at that joint for some time, I don't know if they stopped it. They were the last strip show operating one of those in Tokyo. A couple of years earlier you could get FS for an extra 3000 in a separate room in Nishikawaguchi, or at the Warabi Theater (which has gone out of business last November). Those were the days.That dildo show you mentioned still is a standard part of the program at many strip shows, giving the more experienced ladies something to compete with and stay in business. Japanese term is ten-ita. Gaijin costumers might or might not be able to participate. Some people might like the idea to play before a large crowd. This is usually at the start of the program. If there is a pink room service, the lady who did the dildo show will be providing it.Some of the younger dancers use some sex toys for their polaroid shows lately.
I saw no sign of a pink room, and nobody in the theater came or went, and if there is one it must be accessed from outside the theater. As I left I asked the doorman, "Is there any 'special' room?" --making a subtle (!) hand-jerking motion--and he assured me, "No! Nothing!" Of course, you should take that comment for what it is worth.After the five young gals did their thing they all came out for an all nude session of close-up high-octane display of pink bits. They were in very good humor, and rotated so if you had a good seat you got to see each one quite well. AFTER the five, a much older woman came out and did a kind of "stroll around in a long dress" routine that didn't do much for anybody, as far as I could tell, but when she left the stage a young man hopped up and knelt down in the center. "Oh, no," I thought, "I don't want to see his dick!" When the performer came back out it was obvious that he was the human prop. She controlled all the events quite thoroughly--definitely not her first time--and the chunky young guys job was to comply. He began by giving her a furious pat-down under her dress, then moved to massaging her breasts as though kneading a stubborn lump of dough. When her dress came off he was allowed to finger her pussy, which he did with diligence if not grace. He was then invited to dine at the Y, which was followed by the lady extracting a rather small dildo from her box of goodies. Our lad proceeded to shove it in and out energetically, and when she finally had him call a halt, she arched her back and held a pose until she firmly ejected it from her pussy.Then out came the wet wipes, and Junior's lips and hands were wiped off, applause was offered, and applause and polaroids followed. Definitely a first for me--I had never seen a dildo show in Ueno or Shinjuku, or the practice of having five cute young things and one mature lady for the rougher act.I hopped on the train to the Nippori station and tracked down the Yuri esute place also mentioned here. The Google map (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441c0fe6a62cd7a1b2&ll=35.730227,139.770201&spn=0.001864,0.003605&z=18&om=0&iwloc=000441d101e282b4e9731) is very accurate, and it is across the street from the Tokiya hotel but in the middle of the next block North. It was cold and rainy, and the door opened at the top of the stair. A Chinese gentleman was going to close it on me when I said, "Yuri?" Again, door swung. Then I flashed my printout of their website map and I was welcomed in. Interesting!It is quite a funky place--small, with tiny booths just bigger than the towel-covered mattresses. I forked over the 8,500 yen and he took me to a booth, where a young lady waited, apparently of Mongolian descent. She was cute, friendly, possibly in her 30's, and with large breasts discretely augmented. She spoke no Russian, but absolutely lit up and hugged me when I tried a few Mongolian phrases on her. I have no Japanese to speak of, but so far it hadn't hurt me. She helped me clean up in a warm shower, came back to the booth, and was entirely and enthusiastically obliging as I enjoyed touching, fondling, massaging etc. She offered more massage after the main event, but I had had a good time, so another shower and some assisted dressing was all I needed before heading into the night.All in all it was a decent night, with the total bill not too devastating. Yuri's is not for the squeamish, however, but seems to represent real value.
Friendly Gaijin
01-31-08, 12:34
i went to the dx kabukicho strip show yesterday. they had a "paipan taikai" program, which means that all of the dancers are shaved. 5000 yen entrance fee to stay as long you have time.for those who might not be familiar with the rules, i will just summarize the announcement at the beginning of the show. costumers are to refrain from touching the dancers or their wardrobe, should not lean their elbows on the stage or place luggage there. any kind of camera is forbidden (including the use of cell phones (keitai) in the theater. don't talk when the show is going on. smoking is only allowed in the lobby.pay an extra 500 yen for taking a polaroid picture, or in the case of the last girl at that day 1000 yen. she sold 28 pictures in 20 minutes when i watched, raking in more than 1000 yen per minute. as far as i know, that is the highest earning speed in the whole industry. and she didn't even remove her dress until picture 26. then, she is doing adult videos, so the fans who buy those videos are probably happy to part with a 1000 yen for a smile and a handshake.if you want to participate in the polaroid fun, line up with the other guys.anybody interested in looking at the shaved ladies might want to note that ikebukuro mikado has paipan taikai scheduled for the ten days from february 1 to 10.have fun.
We went over to Omotesando to check out the boutique. The coat she had in mind was 210,000 yen. I practically laughed at her. With that amount of money I could fuck myself raw with AM's finest. She quickly fell back to another shop with a 140,000 yen model. OH! You shouldn't have bought anything and made her go to Narita to see you off. If she wants the coat, she'll wait for you to return to Japan again. Yeah, these girls are stuck in Japan for life. You fly off. That's the scenario. If she's cold, what keeps her warmer, your hugs, or a jacket? If she doesn't hug you, say "I have to use the bathroom", take the escalator down and leave her there. At 210000 yen, you can buy her a plane ticket to Hawaii instead, then she'll want to take her friends. That's a better offer. That is if she has a passport and can get in to the USA....LOL!In Thailand, getting a girl a pair of jeans for $10.00 makes them very happy.
- Rejections: F-ing EVERYWHERE. I can't even begin to count the places, and I didn't write them down. You have to set up a reservation via the establishment's website (via email), tell them the complete situation and if they respond, you're in. It's like fishing. You require upper level honorific Japanese. In my situation, I didn't even need a boat. Scored the best girl after looking at 1000 pictures on-line, first attempt.Just a note to those who speak lower level causal Japanese, the weak US Dollar doesn't help. When the yen is 130 to $1 USD, it is more in your favor.Best of success as always!Gyaos.
Went to the Higashi-gotanda area and found touts all over the place. Walked around until a gal came up to me and said only, 'Massage? ' She may have been Korean or Chinese, but I didn't think she was Japanese. At least not a classic Tokyo face. I said I wanted sex, not just 'ferra', I wanted to pick a girl and that I didn't want smoking anywhere around. Of course, like all good touts, the answers to all my questions were 'yes, yes, yes. ' I followed.]wow sounds like the perfect experence, could you please enlighten us by giving us more details of the location, like what was the name of the place.what did the tout look like, (If you guys spot a new place and have a cell phone camera take a shot of it) was it far from the station??Where did the tout bail you up, and what were the other touts offering that made you refuse them and not the cute lady?Topos
Gamma Ray 007
02-01-08, 12:20
Anybody interested in looking at the shaved ladies might want to note that Ikebukuro Mikado has Paipan Taikai scheduled for the ten days from February 1 to 10. Have fun.What a coincidence--I went there this morning and was *very* surprised to find all ladies shaved. Now I know why! I got there at 12:00 and still had a problem finding a seat. Some old coot (me in a few years) was practically passed out with his bottle holding a free seat in the third row, but he obligingly woke up enough to make room for me. The show was over-the-top, and it reinforces my belief that for sheer erotic display, show-biz star quality, and unshakable poise and grace, you can't beat a good set of Japanese strip-theater dancers. The standout gal today did an amazing set in a barbarian costume all decked out with tiger skin, white minks, and no panties that ended up in a protracted dildo set. You could have heard the crowd gulping during the few moments not drenched in applause. She even did the dildo with polaroids. Whew! I had filled up on beer from the 500 yen machine and could hardly wait out the final "all girls on stage shaking their bootie" routine, but I held it as long as I could. Just as they were taking their final bow I slipped into the men's room and unloaded about a quart. While in mid-stream the stage door opened and five out of six of the gals trooped in and onward into another "staff only" door! Talk about a goofy place for a men's room.Yesterday I found the Dotonbori Shibuya theater and found another excellent ensemble. Every gal sported the traditional muff, but the show was first rate. The Dotonbori management provided streamers for a few of the gals--the stars? Wish I knew. Also, the polaroid situation was intolerable--everybody was getting polaroids, sometimes delaying the next act 20 minutes! I think that the regulars bought packets of discount coupons for the polaroids, and when it was each guys turn each pretended that he was Ken Marcus. Just take the freakin' picture! The management wasn't as welcoming as at the Mikado, and the afternoon price a bit higher. Anywhere know where to find the OS Shibuya? I've walked all over the location on this map (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441bece037115a5454&z=12&om=0) and haven't been able to track it down.Finally, I paid a visit to NYNY in Ueno. Wow, what fun! For 9,500 you get 50 solid minutes of fun, and in my case the gal--"Rabbit"--was sweet and funny, albeit a bit flat chested. Still, what a sweetie, and great nipples! The location makes it a snap to take the Keisei SKyliner from Narita and take in a show at the Ueno Theater, get your ashes hauled at NYNY, and be back on the plane all in a 6 hour stopover.
On the Club Boo schedule I see Lime is on for tonight. That's unusual. I've used CB for about 3 years, and have only seen her on the schedule once or twice maybe, and those were within the past 6 months or so. I tried to arrange an appointment with her a couple of times last year, but she wasn't available. I'm not in Tokyo right now, otherwise I'd give her a go, and a review. She's gorgeous in the photos, but at "Platinum" prices, she should be. If anyone gets together with her tonight, please give her a review. I've never read a review on her before.So, did you get to meet her? Can we have a report?
Henry Fielding
02-03-08, 09:52
In my experiences mongering in Tokyo I have never been able to have anal sex with any provider.Is anal sex possible at a reasonable price in this city? Any recommendations? Any references? Any advice will be most welcome.
Jackazzzz......Just tried to PM you, but apparently your mailbox is not accepting messages. Can you please PM me? I'll be in Tokyo on business in a few weeks, and I wanted to ask you a couple of questions about Tokubetsu-ya. ThanksSorry - I see now that you have to buy a subscription to use the PM system. Ask away re: Tokubetsuya - for 7 man, I don't think there will be enough people calling to annoy them, so it should be fine to talk publicly! The pictures are great, aren't they?This afternoon I tried to go to Romanee Conti, was told that it's Japanese-only before 4 PM (i.e. the discount rates), tried to go to Yume and ended up at Prima Dona. Ah well.
In my experiences mongering in Tokyo I have never been able to have anal sex with any provider.Is anal sex possible at a reasonable price in this city? Any recommendations? Any references? Any advice will be most welcome.Can you read Japanese? If so, you'll find that most DH have anal on the menu, usually from 5,000 to 10,000 extra. That doesn't mean they'll necessarily have an anal-willing woman available at the time, though. There are also DH that specialize in anal (e.g. there's one in Fukuoka called "The Black Hole!"). Based on my experience, only about 10% or so of providers will do anal, but some of those seem to love it.Also, all SM clubs and SM DH have anal on the menu.
Gamma Ray 007
02-04-08, 04:01
I'm just about ready to leave Tokyo and have completed my Google maps project on strip theaters in the Tokyo area. Since nobody can possibly remember the link (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441bece037115a5454&ie=UTF8&ll=35.710838,139.767036&spn=0.119313,0.228653&z=12&om=0), just go to Google maps (http://maps.google.com) and search for keywords like "tokyo strip theater" and the results should bring up my work, the "Tokyo Strip Theater Guide." I've personally confirmed the locations of all except for OS Shibuya, and have linked pictures to all the clubs on the list. If I could find the theater's official website I've posted that link in the placemark box as well as other details I could gather. I visted the Asakasua Rockza yesterday for the first show at 1:00 (Sunday) and was not as impressed as some I was with some of the other theaters. It is a much less intimate theater with a huge stage and a runway so long it is equipped with a little round subway car to carry the dancer off at the end of her set.In some ways, the Rockza reminded me of the late (and greatly lamented) Raymond Revue Bar in London, as every set began with a multi-girl showpiece, except that the Rockza version was "G" rated. One of the girls would eventually stroll forward on the runway and the final three songs would lead to the typical soulfully erotic poses that seem to characterize strip theater in Japan. Then the dancer would graceful step onto her chariot, and she would be transported slowly back to where the curtains would close on her nude but gaily waving form.I counted a total of twelve dancers in the finale, all of whom wore outfits consisting of wide satin ribbons that clearly indicated the panty-less state of all but two. What's up with the two who wore the black panties? I don't remember them from any of the performances. Is the Rockza theater a place where apprentice dancers earn their wings, or similar? The whole performance was pretty squeaky clean--not an inserted finger or even the hint of a dildo at any time. The audience also seemed to be much more reserved than the enthusiasts at some other theaters. For the record, my favorite remains the Mikado-Gekijyo in Ikebukero, followed by the Ueno theater. The streamers at Rockza were excellent, by the way.I took the chance while snapping pictures of NYNY and Champs to try the latter, and I'm convinced those two establishments must share the same management. Even the newbie card reading "No sexual intercourse!" is identical. I drew an older lady named Anna and had a great time with her, and appreciated the bigger tub mentioned by another contributor to this forum. For a non-FS monger like myself, it is hard to beat the price/performance for either NYNY or Champs, and both are completely free of drama regarding my gaijin status. And what a great way to warm up on a snowy day! For the sake of newbies, I posted the locations of those places (and a few others of interest) on a Google map as well (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441c0fe6a62cd7a1b2&ll=35.70905,139.772159&spn=0.000932,0.001786&z=19&om=0)
Stickmanfob
02-04-08, 05:52
Don't have a lot of time but I will get right to it. I tried the 10,000 yen shop in Roppongi last week. This dh has been mentioned here before but for those of you who are short on the Nihon go (Like me) here is a quick synopsis of my experience. Dude on the phone speaks no English. I thought that he should have spoken a little since the website is in English but whatever. The deal is that you secure the love hotel site and check into the room before confirming appointment. I told the guy what time I would be at the hotel and he said to call and confirm at that time. I did so and then he told me that it would be another 20 minutes. I asked for 30 minutes and he told me that it would be 22,000 yen. That explains the 10,000 yen name (not) I know it has a different price based for gaijins so no one needs to explain that to me. Anyways thought it might be fine to try someone outside of AM and CB for once. I tried to explain the style of girl that I wanted and I am not joking when I say that this woman was extremely tall for a Japanese lady (172 cm) and extremely old. I mean she was pushing 45 would be my guess. She smelled horrific and didn't want to pursue anything but getting out of there ASAP. BJ and hj and left asap. I learned my lesson. Not going out of my comfort zone.
I tried the 10,000 yen shop in Roppongi last week.Your experience with 10,000 yen is not too far from my own experience. I've been a regular user of CB primarily, and AM secondarily. A couple of times over the past several years I used 10,000 yen. I don't recall why I used them. Maybe I was still early in my CB and AM experience and, like you, wanted to try something different. I think I had to call back at a later time when someone who spoke English would be there. I recall one woman who was probably in her early 30's, I think, showed up. She was very efficient, with no GFE involved. Not a bad experience, but compared to AM (roughly the same price, I think), not nearly as good. I'd go with AM, both for quality of women and quality of the experience (GFE).CB still remains my favorite, but at a slightly higher price.
In my experiences mongering in Tokyo I have never been able to have anal sex with any provider.Is anal sex possible at a reasonable price in this city? Any recommendations? Any references? Any advice will be most welcome.Anal is often referred to as AF option (anal f*ck).Maybe google this (if it shows up once uploaded)????????Problem is some have AF on the website but it really means FS is possible (not that it is a real problem).There are AF sites, but you'll need Japanese reading to negotiate them.SM clubs are also good places to find filling gals:http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/a/f03/f03_0509.htm
I've used 10, 000 Yen a few times (before branching into "Japanese" DH) and have had good experience with them. First, as odd as it may seem, I wasn't intrigued by the name, but by the English on the Roppongi location's website. For this reason, it didn't bother me that the price came out to be more than 10, 000yen. I picked the 1st woman based on the description on the site and was very pleasantly surprised. The 2nd time, I asked for the same girl, but she wasn't available so they suggested someone similar who was a good substitute. In all cases, the guy on the phone has just asked me where I was and that the girl would meet me at a specified place and we'd go to a LH together. I must say that I only spoke to him in Japanese (while he spoke to me in 90% Japanese, 10% English)---but my Japanese is no where near perfect.The only time that the provider was lackluster was when my 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th choice were busy and I told the dude that I'd take whatever he had left---so I can hardly blame the place for that.All in all, 10K Yen is not a 'bargain' if that's what you seek and CB and AM have more disclosure (photos, english descriptions, etc.) to minimize the potential for disappointment due to appearance.So, as you basically stated, each person should stick to what works for them and we all live and learn.Cheers
Don't have a lot of time but I will get right to it. I tried the 10,000 yen shop in Roppongi last week. This dh has been mentioned here before but for those of you who are short on the Nihon go (Like me) here is a quick synopsis of my experience. Dude on the phone speaks no English. I thought that he should have spoken a little since the website is in English but whatever. The deal is that you secure the love hotel site and check into the room before confirming appointment. I told the guy what time I would be at the hotel and he said to call and confirm at that time. I did so and then he told me that it would be another 20 minutes. I asked for 30 minutes and he told me that it would be 22,000 yen. That explains the 10,000 yen name (not) I know it has a different price based for gaijins so no one needs to explain that to me. Anyways thought it might be fine to try someone outside of AM and CB for once. I tried to explain the style of girl that I wanted and I am not joking when I say that this woman was extremely tall for a Japanese lady (172 cm) and extremely old. I mean she was pushing 45 would be my guess. She smelled horrific and didn't want to pursue anything but getting out of there ASAP. BJ and hj and left asap. I learned my lesson. Not going out of my comfort zone.
Friendly Gaijin
02-04-08, 14:34
Actually, that is easier to find than FS, since the way the industry understands the law here, it is illegal to advertise in public for FS, but not for "AF". Doesn't make much of any sense. You find this "AF" advertised, mostly at a price of 5.000, as an option in all kinds of places we won't be easily allowed into. The Japanese shops actually use that instead of some Japanese equivalent. Maybe it sounds less drastic to them that way.It might be extra difficult to get service for that particular option, since having a Great Western Tool obviously makes the job harder for the provider. Maybe your best bet would be to become a regular costumer in some shop that has this on the menue (not an easy task by itself) and then start trying out all the options after they know and trust you.Hope this helps. Have fun.
In my experiences mongering in Tokyo I have never been able to have anal sex with any provider.Is anal sex possible at a reasonable price in this city? Any recommendations? Any references? Any advice will be most welcome.
Friendly Gaijin
02-04-08, 14:40
Rockza is actually the biggest chain of strip joints here. Their branch in Yokohama is rather similar to Ueno or Ikebukuro. See rockza.net for details.
I counted a total of twelve dancers in the finale, all of whom wore outfits consisting of wide satin ribbons that clearly indicated the panty-less state of all but two. What's up with the two who wore the black panties? I don't remember them from any of the performances. Is the Rockza theater a place where apprentice dancers earn their wings, or similar? The whole performance was pretty squeaky clean--not an inserted finger or even the hint of a dildo at any time. The audience also seemed to be much more reserved than the enthusiasts at some other theaters. For the record, my favorite remains the Mikado-Gekijyo in Ikebukero, followed by the Ueno theater. The streamers at Rockza were excellent, by the way.
Hi Jackazzzz.....Yes, the Tokubetsuya website photos look great (if they're real). Anyway, I'm going to be in Tokyo for a few days at the end of the month and wanted to try that kind of place for the first time (I've usually been an AM customer). Sounded like your extensive research took you to Tokubetsuya, and so I wondered if you could pass along any pointers, for example: is it gaijin-friendly, is Japanese language ability necessary, any hints on finding the place (I just love the way Japanese businesses are hidden right in plain sight), is it necessary to call in advance to reserve, etc. Thanks very much for any info you can provide.
Sorry - I see now that you have to buy a subscription to use the PM system. Ask away re: Tokubetsuya - for 7 man, I don't think there will be enough people calling to annoy them, so it should be fine to talk publicly! The pictures are great, aren't they?
Actually, that is easier to find than FS, since the way the industry understands the law here, it is illegal to advertise in public for FS, but not for "AF". Doesn't make much of any sense. You find this "AF" advertised, mostly at a price of 5.000, as an option in all kinds of places we won't be easily allowed into. The Japanese shops actually use that instead of some Japanese equivalent. Maybe it sounds less drastic to them that way.It might be extra difficult to get service for that particular option, since having a Great Western Tool obviously makes the job harder for the provider. Maybe your best bet would be to become a regular costumer in some shop that has this on the menue (not an easy task by itself) and then start trying out all the options after they know and trust you.Hope this helps. Have fun.This is a site for dozens of AF shops countrywide (below is the Tokyo page):http://anal.daiziten.com/kanto/shopList/Seems larger/older girls are more likely to offer AF as an option. Perhaps it is less uncomfortable for them? Since they are not young starlets they can't work for the top DH/soaps, so this is a way to increase their earnings (my guess at least). If you find a hottie offering AF, it is because she likes it (or REALLY wants more cash). Sometimes you will see a triangle next to the option-means she might consider it. A circle means she is OK with it.You may find you are accepted for this more often then regular shops, since these are not first-rate 20yr olds and they tend to be less picky/afraid of trying new things.The fear of the Western tool might be an issue, but negotiable once in the room and examined (unless you are a John Holmes type).Can cost between 5,000-15,000 extra. Some AF specialty places have it included.Here is a place that is 50min/14,000 or 50/21,000 for AF course (I haven't been there).http://www.la-mamma.jp/html/index.htmlGoogle AF toukyou (in kanji) and you'll get some hits.Good luck and report back.
I am not joking when I say that this woman was extremely tall for a Japanese lady (172 cm) and extremely old. I mean she was pushing 45 would be my guess."Extremely old...pushing 45???" How old are you--18?First of all most of the hottest f**ks I've had have been middle-aged women; no hang-ups, they know what they like, willing to experiment, etc. Second, I'm in my late 50s but can still pop 2-3 times w/i as many hours when w/a woman I like who turns me on.No need to insult the older members of this board.
Stickmanfob
02-05-08, 05:19
Sorry that you feel that way. I was trying to be polite by saying 45 but may be more like 50. I know that still doesn't make you feel better but each of us have their own taste. I don't know many guys in the late thirties and early forties that would like to have sex with an unattractive lady that is 45+ years old. If she was hot and didn't smell, then I could pop 2-3 times to. Didn't mean to offend you but if you read my entire post it wasn't only the age that was a turnoff.
"Extremely old...pushing 45???" How old are you--18?First of all most of the hottest f**ks I've had have been middle-aged women; no hang-ups, they know what they like, willing to experiment, etc. Second, I'm in my late 50s but can still pop 2-3 times w/i as many hours when w/a woman I like who turns me on.No need to insult the older members of this board.
Sorry that you feel that way. I was trying to be polite by saying 45 but may be more like 50. I know that still doesn't make you feel better but each of us have their own taste. I don't know many guys in the late thirties and early forties that would like to have sex with an unattractive lady that is 45+ years old. Hey! *Unattractive* is the operative word here. Not the age. Personally, I would rather do it with an attractive 45-yo than with a 20-yo pig. You are welcome to your taste. But don`t assume that everyone shares your preference.
I've had some terrible times with very attractive young ones and some incredibly surprisingly great times with older unattractive ones. I can deal with unattractiveness far better than I can with snooty, stuck up attitudes. Age doesn't really play into this for me. Attitude and personality can make up for a whole lot of unattractiveness. It doesn't take much of a bad attitude to spoil a perfect 10.
Hey! *Unattractive* is the operative word here. Not the age. Personally, I would rather do it with an attractive 45-yo than with a 20-yo pig. You are welcome to your taste. But don`t assume that everyone shares your preference.
I've had some terrible times with very attractive young ones and some incredibly surprisingly great times with older unattractive ones. I can deal with unattractiveness far better than I can with snooty, stuck up attitudes. Age doesn't really play into this for me. Attitude and personality can make up for a whole lot of unattractiveness. It doesn't take much of a bad attitude to spoil a perfect 10.Can't agree more....But to each his own, I happily leave the snoopy models to the younger guys....and enjoy the experience of other more "ordinary" women.. NYNY and Champs are examples in case..where excellent service can be had from no-so-young women.Having said that, I must recognise that there are also young girls who deliver excellent service, such as Manimi from AM.
I've had some terrible times with very attractive young ones and some incredibly surprisingly great times with older unattractive ones. I can deal with unattractiveness far better than I can with snooty, stuck up attitudes. Age doesn't really play into this for me. Attitude and personality can make up for a whole lot of unattractiveness. It doesn't take much of a bad attitude to spoil a perfect 10.As eye candy, the younger ones are usually preferable for me, with their perky tits and tight asses. However once it bed, it is YMMV for any age, as performance becomes the key. I have come to appreciate the skills of women closer to my age (say w/in 5-10 years), and find myself bored by girls in their late teens/early twenties, who have never been anywhere on done anything interesting and have an IQ of 90. Then again at uni I usually dated women 5-10yrs older as well...Of course anyone who orders a 20-something and gets a 40-50 something deserves a break. The bate-and-switch is something we should object to in order to get the DH companies honest. Problem is we are too horny and they know it.
Gamma - I enjoyed reading your posts and looking at your maps... I think they are quite helpful and the discussion of the experience at these strip theaters is a nice change of pace - certainly not to everyone's taste, but that is something that can be said for many different aspects of this hobby, but it is interesting to see the range of possibilities. I visited the strip club in Asakusa you describe many years ago before I even knew about ISG (or WSG then)... happened upon it and checked it out. It was interestingly different from strip joints in the US. For those interested in the stripo theatres, the maps will be invaluable for finding them. Indeed, I also noticed your map to NYNY/Champs Elysee in Ueno - those of us who have been around here for a while may recall that giving instructions to get to that place to newbies is a frequent request and something of a challenge, since a lot of guys want to check it out and don't really know their way around these back streets of Ueno. I and others have written directions before... but the map will be much appreciated!
I'm just about ready to leave Tokyo and have completed my Google maps project on strip theaters in the Tokyo area. Since nobody can possibly remember the link (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441bece037115a5454&ie=UTF8&ll=35.710838,139.767036&spn=0.119313,0.228653&z=12&om=0), just go to Google maps (http://maps.google.com) and search for keywords like "tokyo strip theater" and the results should bring up my work, the "Tokyo Strip Theater Guide." I've personally confirmed the locations of all except for OS Shibuya, and have linked pictures to all the clubs on the list. If I could find the theater's official website I've posted that link in the placemark box as well as other details I could gather. I visted the Asakasua Rockza yesterday for the first show at 1:00 (Sunday) and was not as impressed as some I was with some of the other theaters. It is a much less intimate theater with a huge stage and a runway so long it is equipped with a little round subway car to carry the dancer off at the end of her set.In some ways, the Rockza reminded me of the late (and greatly lamented) Raymond Revue Bar in London, as every set began with a multi-girl showpiece, except that the Rockza version was "G" rated. One of the girls would eventually stroll forward on the runway and the final three songs would lead to the typical soulfully erotic poses that seem to characterize strip theater in Japan. Then the dancer would graceful step onto her chariot, and she would be transported slowly back to where the curtains would close on her nude but gaily waving form.I counted a total of twelve dancers in the finale, all of whom wore outfits consisting of wide satin ribbons that clearly indicated the panty-less state of all but two. What's up with the two who wore the black panties? I don't remember them from any of the performances. Is the Rockza theater a place where apprentice dancers earn their wings, or similar? The whole performance was pretty squeaky clean--not an inserted finger or even the hint of a dildo at any time. The audience also seemed to be much more reserved than the enthusiasts at some other theaters. For the record, my favorite remains the Mikado-Gekijyo in Ikebukero, followed by the Ueno theater. The streamers at Rockza were excellent, by the way.I took the chance while snapping pictures of NYNY and Champs to try the latter, and I'm convinced those two establishments must share the same management. Even the newbie card reading "No sexual intercourse!" is identical. I drew an older lady named Anna and had a great time with her, and appreciated the bigger tub mentioned by another contributor to this forum. For a non-FS monger like myself, it is hard to beat the price/performance for either NYNY or Champs, and both are completely free of drama regarding my gaijin status. And what a great way to warm up on a snowy day! For the sake of newbies, I posted the locations of those places (and a few others of interest) on a Google map as well (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441c0fe6a62cd7a1b2&ll=35.70905,139.772159&spn=0.000932,0.001786&z=19&om=0)
Friendly Gaijin
02-06-08, 12:56
Yes, I second that. Great job with that map, thanks for this project. I just did a snip on the long URL, the short one ishttp://snurl.com/1z3bfHave fun.
For those interested in the stripo theatres, the maps will be invaluable for finding them. Indeed, I also noticed your map to NYNY/Champs Elysee in Ueno - those of us who have been around here for a while may recall that giving instructions to get to that place to newbies is a frequent request and something of a challenge, since a lot of guys want to check it out and don't really know their way around these back streets of Ueno. I and others have written directions before... but the map will be much appreciated!
[QUOTE=Cool Mint]So I've been here a few days and the racism concerning P2P is such a buzzkill. I've certainly encountered it in Korea despite my Asian face, but at least they were blunt about it so that I could properly respond. Here in Japan, they go out of their way to be polite all the time, even when basically spouting racism. It's tricky to deal with. After 3 rejections due to my extremely rusty Japanese, I began to get impatient and didn't bother looking after that.I heading to Tokyo next month.I am Asian and brown skinned...what type of discrimination am I to expect.Any recommended locations?Thanks
[QUOTE=Cool Mint]I am Asian and brown skinned...what type of discrimination am I to expect.Not any more or any less than us white skins.
[QUOTE=Cool Mint]Any recommended locations?ThanksHow about reading some threads on this board first, and then come back with a more specific question?
Hi Jackazzzz.....Yes, the Tokubetsuya website photos look great (if they're real). Anyway, I'm going to be in Tokyo for a few days at the end of the month and wanted to try that kind of place for the first time (I've usually been an AM customer). Sounded like your extensive research took you to Tokubetsuya, and so I wondered if you could pass along any pointers, for example: is it gaijin-friendly, is Japanese language ability necessary, any hints on finding the place (I just love the way Japanese businesses are hidden right in plain sight), is it necessary to call in advance to reserve, etc. Thanks very much for any info you can provide.Hi, I have to admit, I haven't been to Tokubetsuya. Actually I think the name is Tokubetsushitsu, but let's not dwell on that. My mistake.But I was deeply impressed by their attention to service. This is going to sound like I work for them but. I walked around for two hours trying to go into shops, and I believe I tried 50 places. They were the ONLY place to treat me like a serious customer (I. E. The full-on Japanese "Oh my god, it's a customer! Treatment"). For that reason (and the pictures) I would go there.I did a walk-in so I guess you can too. They were eager to serve, but I speak enough Japanese. Based on my experience since then (two Yoshiwara visits since the long post), I think it's a better idea to call ahead. If your Japanese doesn't support a call. I'm not sure if it will support a walk-in. I can call for you if you like, or meet you there. Honestly, I've had very good luck at Prima Dona (www.dream7000.com), and a bad experience at Romanee Conti that was my own fault (never, NEVER take the manager's recommendation. I thought I knew that but I still fell for it.) You know, Playgirls has gotten good recs, and evidently they have an English speaking guy. They're one of the few places that will try to get you to come in off the street (Wednesday night it was snowing, and all the shops were remarkably welcoming! )As far as finding it. Yoshiwara is hard to miss if you know the basics. Minowa Exit 3 (front of the train), turn left, cross the street, soft right at the fork, turn right at the gas station, two curves in the road. There about 10 blocks after that where more or less every shop is a soapland. Tokubetsushitsu is on the first street on the right. Can you find a map? Senzoku 4-chome will do it. Just ask a taxi driver from Minowa station, it will be less than Y1000.Lemme know. I have a bad feeling I'll be up there again this weekend, and I'm more than happy to abet someone else's mongering.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
"Extremely old...pushing 45???" How old are you--18?First of all most of the hottest f**ks I've had have been middle-aged women; no hang-ups, they know what they like, willing to experiment, etc. Second, I'm in my late 50s but can still pop 2-3 times w/i as many hours when w/a woman I like who turns me on.No need to insult the older members of this board.I'm sure there was no insult intended to older members. I sort of assume that everyone wants that taste of youth that comes with a 20 year old girl.So here's my last experience. I've posted a number of Yoshiwara things recently, and this is the most recent.Wednesday night I went up to Yoshiwara with a guy that works for me. The shops were very welcoming due to the snow. Places that I KNOW rejected me last week when I inquired were eager to have my business this time.We ended up at Romanee Conti. Miazato san is pretty decent and friendly, except that he recommended two girls and I let myself be seduced by my (first time) colleague's nervousness. Thus he ended up with an OK provider and I ended up with.A fat girl. Or perhaps a fat woman. I would guess she was 25-27. This doesn't sound so bad, but the other times I've gone to Yoshiwara I've called and made appointments with tall, stick-thin 22-year olds. I know what I like.So the first 30 minutes with this woman was terrible. She met me on the stairs, as they do, and I immediately detected that she was. How can I put this delicately. Fat. In the room, she seemed to be treating it more like an English lesson. I don't want to give you an English lesson, I want YOU to give ME some other kind of oral lesson. The first round of sex was lackluster. Did I mention she was fat? I didn't let her get in the bath with me. There wasn't room. The massage on the mat was pretty good except that she was crushing me.Then she went to town on the analingus, or however you spell it, I was pretty surprised. She turned me over and went after it, hand-to-mouth, and it was decent. I got sheathed, got her on top, then on the bottom, but couldn't make it happen. After 10 minutes (maybe. But it felt like an hour) I just quit. She volunteered to get back to it with her mouth, and after an extended and enjoyable period she pulled it off.The moral of the story is that it was tremendously satisfying, but had basically nil GFE and I had to keep my eyes closed the whole time. There are positives and negatives.Will someone other than me PLEASE go to Yoshiwara and post a report? All these debates about AM and Mashiro at Supergirls are really depressing.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Hi,I am reporting about Korean Delivery Health(KDH) in Uguisudani. Since I am not interested in anything that doesn't include FS, this is a good option for me in terms of quality/price. It seems that most of the KDH in Tokyo are based around Uguisudani. Me: Westerner, 30s, japanese-speaking.Usually I get a room at one of the love hotels around Uguisudani, on weekends in the afternoon you can get a room for <5000 yen for 3 hours. No problem to get in alone. ........ Anyway here's a list of agencies I've usedK-girls (http://k-girls.jp/top.html)Service is good, girls on the site are real. Recommend.Palace (http://www.palace-dh.com/)Same owner as K-girls, recommendedEntarra (http://www.entaraa.com/)Used it once, was the girl on the site. Attitude was so-soMink (http://www.derimink.com/main.html)Used it once, was the girl on the site, service was OK.Nobless (http://nnobless.com/index.html)Called a couple of times, they always send a different girl(no the one on the web site), not recommendedFellini (http://www.fellini0306.com/index2.html)Japanese agency, pochari type. FS included. Used it once, Mahiru-san,she was nice. Recommended if you like chubby girlsMost of the mama-san are Korean, when I call they can't tell I'm not Japanese, I always give a Japanese name. I don't think they speak English so you might wanna have someone call for you if you don't speak Japanese. Also, some of the girls(Korean) don't speak that much Japanese or English.Anyway, I think KDH are a pretty good deal but your milleage may vary.Have fun!Hi,Do they only "deliver" to those hotels mentioned on their website, or can I also get them e.g. to Akasaka?
HelloI go for 1 week in tokyo in April, could you make a summary?- What is average price for pussy?- What are the best place?- Hotel (under 100 usd) to be close to action?- Are hotel guest friendly in general?- Are there gogo bars like in thailand?Thanks
Was back in Tokyo couple of weeks back and decided to try my luck with Ai. Contacted AM, made the appointment, and at exactly the requested time, the girl turned up and it was the girl I had asked for. This is still a bit shocking to me, where I came from before, either the grils turn up late or not or a different girl turn up or suddenly 2 girls come at once. But I digress.So the girl, she looks like in the pictures, typical Japanese figure, not fat, not thin, with a nicey filled ass ( I don't like boney thin asses).So she came, in bit of cuddling, kissing, off to the shower, back to the bed. Didn't take long to get my attention going, over went the cover ( I'm not in for BBBJ, she didn't suggest, I didn't ask). Nice BJ, the nicest thing is when she looked up, that look in her eyes almost made me pop. Finished round one. Little chat and round 2, much of the same, finished in doggy.Pretty nice young girl, nice tight and tasty pussy, only minus is that her breath was not 100% fresh when she came.Next time ( in 2 weeks) I think I'll give Ayuko a chance.An off-topic question. I'll be spending quite some time this year in Tokyo, is there somewhere an expat forum where I can find general info? And info on where the Thursday/Friday&Saturday drinking is happening?
AsiaTraveler2
02-11-08, 06:58
I'm sure there was no insult intended to older members. I sort of assume that everyone wants that taste of youth that comes with a 20 year old girl.Probably a bad assumption. Tastes are as varied as there are members. In the Hawaii thread, there's a big market for MILF's (40's). My preference is for woman, who are 30'ish, a nice blend of youth and experience. While there's fun to be had with 20 somethin's, there's much better chemistry for me with girls in their 30's. I'm sure alot of it, had to do with the wording. Extremely old? I think if you really look at the wording, you will understand how that may have come across to someome in their late 30's, or 40's or 50's. I'm damn sure that would be extremely insulting to those in their 60's and up. Given that most members are between 20 to 70, you probably get a better picture of how that line may not have been flattering to say the least, to at least 1/2 the members if not more.Peace,AT2
AsiaTraveler2
02-11-08, 07:07
Hi,Do they only "deliver" to those hotels mentioned on their website, or can I also get them e.g. to Akasaka?Sailing first introduced me to the K-Girls DH system. I believe it's a convenience issue. The love hotels in Uguisudani are well known to them and within convenient travel distance. That's my impression, but I could be wrong. Lot's of fun and the Love hotels are actually a nice setup, with everything you need. Had a great experience with Momo from K-Girls, although she was listed with a different name on the website.On your first try, best to stick with their system. It is very tough in Japan, to get these types of services to begin with. Trying to work exceptions, will probably leave you off their preferred customer list.Good luck!AT2
Tokyohomeboy
02-11-08, 07:36
http://www.hinomarukanko.com/other/shop_info.htmlIf you have a decent map of Tokyo (In English) you can follow the directions on the above website to get to either location. JDThe link above seems to be dead. Can anyone guide me in to Hinomaru Ikebukuro? I will be arriving via Yamanote line
Friendly Gaijin
02-11-08, 11:34
The new website is athttp://www.hinomaru-caba.com/Hope this helps. Have fun.
The link above seems to be dead. Can anyone guide me in to Hinomaru Ikebukuro? I will be arriving via Yamanote line
AsiaTraveler2
02-11-08, 12:13
The link above seems to be dead. Can anyone guide me in to Hinomaru Ikebukuro? I will be arriving via Yamanote lineTokyo,Use the search function. Should be very easy to find .. would take a minute if that. Be sure to select "Show results as" reports and type in just Hinomaru as the keyword. Should show only 3 pages and you will see a post by Wolf that has as much detail as you will need. AT2
Tokyohomeboy
02-11-08, 14:03
Tokyo,Use the search function. Should be very easy to find .. would take a minute if that. Be sure to select "Show results as" reports and type in just Hinomaru as the keyword. Should show only 3 pages and you will see a post by Wolf that has as much detail as you will need. AT2AT2,I see Wolf's post but it's only directions to the Shinjuku branch. The one I want is the Ikebukuro one. Does anyone have directions to Hinomaru in Ikebukuro?
Hi,I am a big fan of good massages, so this place sounds great. Could you tell me, when they are massaging you did they leave you covered or are you completly naked while they give you the massage?
I was in Shinjuku for a couple other things and figured what the hey and stopped in to try out Asian Feeling. Funny to see a sign on the street that welcomes foreigners!Kind of a youngish Japanese guy greets you and gives you some plastic flip flops to wear, then shows the "menu" for the shop. The traditional Thai massage, oil massage (with masturbatory motion indicated only on this selection) and the baby powder (essentially the traditional with some powder added). I like the smoothness of oils, so picked that one.I went into the room and got undressed, put on the robe and waited a couple minutes. A girl finally came in, introduced herself as Kei, and shuffled me over to the shower. Nice clean shower for a change, and lots of soap in the big plastic bottle. I did get a little concerned because it took quite awhile for the hot water to show up, and I was not up for a cold shower on a chilly Sunday afternoon... Anyhow, Kei was waiting for me with the towel on the way out, and dried me off with a little extra attention toward Mr Happy. Back to the room on the thin futon...The massage was not the greatest, but she does have nice warm hands and it led to a very sleepy state for me. After the flip, she worked on the feet and legs some more. Then she sat up and put her legs up on both sides of me to get in position to massage my chest, including some nice nipple massage with the oil (good touch there!). Her loose pants had gone away, and the legs were nice and smooth to my touch now. Then she started getting serious at stroking the balls and making Mr Happy stand at attention. Just for the helluvit I asked if any options were available such as the mouth or pussy. She said that she can't fuck, but the BJ was ok. So that sounded just dandy to me! While it was a combination HJ/BBBJ, she did go for CIM, which really surprised me. Awesome soft lips on Kei, if truth be told. She gave me a little kiss afterward, then came back with the set of hot towels. Loaded a couple layers of those on me, then the plastic sheet on top, followed by some semi body surfing to knead out the rest of the kinks. I didn't want another shower, so she gave me a face massage to round out the trip.For 10K plus a 500 yen "towel charge" I left with a smile on my face and will look forward to trying that place again soon. FWIW, Kei says she's been here for 3 years. Looks about 30-ish, though the bod and tits are nice and tight (she lets you pull them out of her bra to play a bit). Cute one!Cheers,Wantacunta
Probably a bad assumption. Tastes are as varied as there are members. In the Hawaii thread, there's a big market for MILF's (40's). My preference is for woman, who are 30'ish, a nice blend of youth and experience. While there's fun to be had with 20 somethin's, there's much better chemistry for me with girls in their 30's. I'm sure alot of it, had to do with the wording. Extremely old? I think if you really look at the wording, you will understand how that may have come across to someome in their late 30's, or 40's or 50's. I'm damn sure that would be extremely insulting to those in their 60's and up. Given that most members are between 20 to 70, you probably get a better picture of how that line may not have been flattering to say the least, to at least 1/2 the members if not more.Peace,AT2I am just 60...and No,I did not felt insulted, I just felt sorry for the guy who wrote this. Yes, the chemistry is what matters, and I can enjoy young ( but not too young) girls as much as "MILFs". In fact one of my best punt was with a 50 year old.. God she knew how to please a man! And I agree that usually, women between 30 and 45 are the best. Last, they are not usually put off by "old" people, as much as perhaps a 19y old.. Anyway, there are a lot of young studs who do not think much, and do not even imagine that they will age as well.. Time will teach them!!Peace!
AT2,I see Wolf's post but it's only directions to the Shinjuku branch. The one I want is the Ikebukuro one. Does anyone have directions to Hinomaru in Ikebukuro?http://www.hinomaru-caba.com/top.php?page=i
Asian Travels
02-12-08, 02:38
Sailing first introduced me to the K-Girls DH system. I believe it's a convenience issue. The love hotels in Uguisudani are well known to them and within convenient travel distance. That's my impression, but I could be wrong. Lot's of fun and the Love hotels are actually a nice setup, with everything you need. Had a great experience with Momo from K-Girls, although she was listed with a different name on the website.On your first try, best to stick with their system. It is very tough in Japan, to get these types of services to begin with. Trying to work exceptions, will probably leave you off their preferred customer list.Good luck!AT2Uguisudani and Nippori are close to the KDH bases, and they can be there in 20min or less. They probably won't hit you up for a 3,000 travel fee. They also offer some daytime specials on the websites, but only for delivery to designated hotels, not for distant ones. They will deliver to other parts of Tokyo, but it will take 30-60 minutes and you pay the fee.
The Tanuki
02-12-08, 13:12
Hi,I am a big fan of good massages, so this place sounds great. Could you tell me, when they are massaging you did they leave you covered or are you completly naked while they give you the massage?My experience there was on a fairly cold day, so the girl felt at least a bit obliged to cover me because of that. There was a towel over my back and ass, then it was moved to cover one leg whilst massaging the other. The towel sorta disappeared after the flip, but I certainly was not cold at that point.Cheers,Wantacunta
I'm Aussie. I'm only here until Friday. I'm staying in the big hotel next to central park in shinjuku. Is there somewhere that a white non-japanese speaker can go to drink and meet girls?Is AM reasonably priced compared to others?I've just come from china, where you can get a girl for the whole night for US$100. So I'm a little culture shocked at prices in this country.Thanks Guys.BTW, this thread is too big to read. lol
BTW, this thread is too big to read. lolTry the search function.If you're too lazy to do that, you can always get in a cab and tell the driver, "oh-mee-ya ekk-ee oh-neg-eye-shee-mass".
I'm Aussie. I'm only here until Friday. I'm staying in the big hotel next to central park in shinjuku. Is there somewhere that a white non-japanese speaker can go to drink and meet girls?Is AM reasonably priced compared to others?I've just come from china, where you can get a girl for the whole night for US$100. So I'm a little culture shocked at prices in this country.Thanks Guys.BTW, this thread is too big to read. lolPick up a Tokyo Metro mag. Check Bento.com for there huge Tokyo Food and Drink page.You are not in China any more...however prices here are similar to OZ (and can cheaper than the US), so no reason to be too shocked.
Took a look at the site and the girls seem either-a. air brushedb. have gone through major surgery in all areasc. a combo of bothIn any case, what were the different courses like?
Spent an evening at a high-end strip club called Seventh Heaven in Roppongi. The place was recommended by a fellow passenger on the airplane en route to Tokyo. Admission fee for me was 17, 500 yen including two private dances and a "champagne" for the girl (and two drinks for me). Given that each private dance is 6, 000 yen, I took the "combo" deal. As advertised, there were many great-looking women, mostly foreigners. The customers were also English-speaking in general. The girls danced topless on stage.The private dances involved me touching above the waist but not below. Some girls showed their pussies but just for show.I have never been to a strip club in Tokyo--geared towards foreigners before. It reminded me of clubs in NYC etc. I'm not sure whether the price justified what "teases" I got. One girl was clearly pretty turned on, so if I had more time in Tokyo, it's possible that I could have scored, but not clear. Has anyone had any luck with these girls? I do admit that it was nice to see some really great-looking foreigners (Russians etc.) in Tokyo for me though.
Just read Azure Knight's report in Osaka where he was able to secure 2 girls for a 60 minute 3some for just 24,000. FS was provided by both ladies. Is there anything even close to this kind of deal in Tokyo? AM's 3P option is 85,000 for two hours is the only thing I can find.
Three Pete
02-13-08, 17:59
I think Club Boo will also arrange a 3P with 2 girls.If you have an open minded girlfriend it is pretty easy in Japan to get a 3P going just by having your GF nampa in a bar like Motown or call in a AM girl for 10,000 yen extra. Over half the girls are Bisexual3 Pete
Spent an evening at a high-end strip club called Seventh Heaven in Roppongi. The place was recommended by a fellow passenger on the airplane en route to Tokyo. Admission fee for me was 17, 500 yen including two private dances and a "champagne" for the girl (and two drinks for me). Given that each private dance is 6, 000 yen, I took the "combo" deal. As advertised, there were many great-looking women, mostly foreigners. The customers were also English-speaking in general. The girls danced topless on stage.The private dances involved me touching above the waist but not below. Some girls showed their pussies but just for show.I have never been to a strip club in Tokyo--geared towards foreigners before. It reminded me of clubs in NYC etc. I'm not sure whether the price justified what "teases" I got. One girl was clearly pretty turned on, so if I had more time in Tokyo, it's possible that I could have scored, but not clear. Has anyone had any luck with these girls? I do admit that it was nice to see some really great-looking foreigners (Russians etc.) in Tokyo for me though.Well, if you enjoyed yourself, then there is no arguing with that, but for me, spending 17,500 to watch a topless show that just has a little teasing and no action has very little appeal. If you like strip shows you might consider some of the ones being talked about on this thread in places like Shinjuku, Ikebukuro, Ueno. Cheaper, more nudity, and in some cases a chance to get your rocks off. No Russians though.
My experience there was on a fairly cold day, so the girl felt at least a bit obliged to cover me because of that. There was a towel over my back and ass, then it was moved to cover one leg whilst massaging the other. The towel sorta disappeared after the flip, but I certainly was not cold at that point.Cheers,WantacuntaThanks that sounds pretty par for the course, I'm gonna check the place out for sureFred
South by SW 2
02-14-08, 07:29
a handy overhead mirror.jpgDarn right that's handy. I haven't been able to find a travel mirror like that. Is that a LH or did you get an apartment in Kabuki-cho?- SbySW
The foreigner staffed clubs around RP tend to be quite expensive and not so great for your mileage. They cater to execs on open expense accts and fueled by their J-counterparts. You are not likely to get much besides an empty wallet without alot of repeats. That being said - if you fancy a bird there and have some time, then arrange a dohan. This is a dinner before going to the club - privately with the girl. The girls are encouraged, and even mandated to do this. So, chances are you wont be rejected. Bear in mind, most of the girls working there already have 'boyfriends' - many are the touts and scouts - so you have some heavy competition. They are basically looking for RHG's and that's it -- you either need alot of 'R' or 'H' to play this game.As alternative, go to some of the afterclubs which the girls visit after their shifts at the strip clubs. They are much more approachable.On contrast, checkout some of the Japanese clubs with a local (Japanese friend or someone who can guide you). You may be pleasantly surprised at the options which include obscure small clubs specializing in 18-25yo hotties that will sit on your lap and let you suck their pert titties all night long for less than 7000/hr (inlcuding drinks). Know the special signal and you'll Mr. Happy taken care of promptly and lovingly in the back room.
Spent an evening at a high-end strip club called Seventh Heaven in Roppongi. The private dances involved me touching above the waist but not below. Some girls showed their pussies but just for show.? I do admit that it was nice to see some really great-looking foreigners (Russians etc.) in Tokyo for me though.
Ahhhh, I only _sort of_ assume that. Everybody's got their thing and they're welcome to it. But I still sort of assume that most men prefer women younger than themselves. No? As far as the "45 - extremely old" remark, there's a distinction between the monger and mongee, and that referred to the mongee. 20-70 is perfectly normal for a monger (and if you're still mongering after 70, you have my full respect!). For a mongee, I still sort of assume that most mongers would find 45 to be a little old. If anyone was offended by my fat jokes, I apologize and will happily give you the girl's name if that's your thing.
Probably a bad assumption. Tastes are as varied as there are members. In the Hawaii thread, there's a big market for MILF's (40's). My preference is for woman, who are 30'ish, a nice blend of youth and experience. While there's fun to be had with 20 somethin's, there's much better chemistry for me with girls in their 30's. I'm sure alot of it, had to do with the wording. Extremely old? I think if you really look at the wording, you will understand how that may have come across to someome in their late 30's, or 40's or 50's. I'm damn sure that would be extremely insulting to those in their 60's and up. Given that most members are between 20 to 70, you probably get a better picture of how that line may not have been flattering to say the least, to at least 1/2 the members if not more.Peace,AT2
Everything is in English which leads me to believe they accept foreigners, or at least English-speaking ones!Has anyone tried this place? I'm in SF, and go to Tokyo frequently, so I can't check it out. Anyone want to scout this place out for us?Thanks,Incredy
Everything is in English which leads me to believe they accept foreigners, or at least English-speaking ones!Has anyone tried this place? I'm in SF, and go to Tokyo frequently, so I can't check it out. Anyone want to scout this place out for us?Thanks,IncredyTo which place are you refering to?ToposIf I know the place, and if I`m close I will scout it out.
I'm not sure how old you are but your attitude suggests you're in your early-mid 20s. I could be way off base but it's been my personal experience and I had similar views when I was in my early-mid 20s. As I got into my 40s my experience and preferences definitely changed and I really seek quality over youth. Quality for me means skill/technique, personality and grooming in that order. Age is not a factor anymore. It's been my experience that skill and technique gets better with age. 20 yo ladies just don't have the same sort of skills that a 30 yo lady does in my experience. I've had ladies that must have been in their 50s and their skills were top notch. Many times I just close my eyes and enjoy the ride.Anyway, no offense taken.
Ahhhh, I only _sort of_ assume that. Everybody's got their thing and they're welcome to it. But I still sort of assume that most men prefer women younger than themselves. No? As far as the "45 - extremely old" remark, there's a distinction between the monger and mongee, and that referred to the mongee. 20-70 is perfectly normal for a monger (and if you're still mongering after 70, you have my full respect!). For a mongee, I still sort of assume that most mongers would find 45 to be a little old. If anyone was offended by my fat jokes, I apologize and will happily give you the girl's name if that's your thing.
South by SW 2
02-18-08, 06:57
Quality for me means skill/technique, personality and grooming in that order.I'd second that, mostly, but I'm still picky about appearance - rather than age. My acceptable age has increased in step with my own, but there are steadily fewer who make it over the appearance hurdle. Maybe my imagination isn't what it used to be, but closing my eyes and pretending doesn't really cut it for me anymore.Like tequila shots, those 20 y.o. are tempting, but I always swear off them again in the morning. That usually lasts for six to nine months.Fortunately, there are enough types of women to keep everyone happy.SbySWDe gustibus non est disputandum: There is no disputing tastes.
Three Pete
02-18-08, 07:05
Darn right that's handy. I haven't been able to find a travel mirror like that. Is that a LH or did you get an apartment in Kabuki-cho?- SbySWSbySW,Yes the mirror was handy lacking a tripod. I just happened to glance up while the girls were going at it and there it was. Yes this is a LH and not just anyone but the infamous Alpha fantasy LH near Roppongi. Girls get excited just walking in the door. Kind of expensive (15,000) but worth it if you have the opportunity to play with 2 and there is no extra person charge, the other girl can even come in later. The room is fully stocked with devices.
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