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Gaijin Otoko

02-03-10, 01:41

Thanks again to those who have answered my questions thus far as I have had a little luck with contacting some interested companions. That said it has been via CL so not sure if they are really and while I have been planning I have been thinking about using a love hotel though it seems that option is limited as well.One of the contacts was a aussie in Chiba. The other wants me to contact them via e-mail only (which reeks of a sting so not gonna go for that option).I would stay away from CL in general. I am not black, and so I hope our black contributors to the forum will correct me if I am wrong. First, I have never heard of anyone being refused entry to a love hotel if they were somewhat close to being of an adult age, and if they were in the company of someone else, regardless of gender. Some folks have even used them as an emergency place to rest the night if they missed the last train or ferry home. Race does not seem to be a criteria, and many love hotels are so automated they never even see who is checking in and out. Second, I would read the forum for places that accept foreigners. Most places that take foreigners seem like they will take any kind of foreigner. Again, I'm not black, so I don't know what the percentage is, but it is my educated opinion that while there are a few places that will take white or Asian foreigners and not black, I think those places are in the extreme minority. The stigma comes in messing around with a foreigner, and the difference between white, black or any other color seems to be generally a much smaller issue once the initial foreign issue has been overcome. Also, while there are many Japanese women who would not have a relationship with a foreigner, my experience is that women in the sex industry are not so picky. You're looking to shag some chick, not marry her. The main barrier to foreigners I have found is often not the girls themselves, but the shop owners who prohibit foreigners on the thought that some of their Japanese customers might not want to follow after us. So on average the racism doesn't come directly from the girls or even the owners, but rather a percentage of the shop's clientele. How big that percentage is is a topic of a different debate. I think it's actually a fairly small but vocal minority.

Lion

02-03-10, 04:52

I would stay away from CL in general. I am not black, and so I hope our black contributors to the forum will correct me if I am wrong. First, I have never heard of anyone being refused entry to a love hotel if they were somewhat close to being of an adult age, and if they were in the company of someone else, regardless of gender. Some folks have even used them as an emergency place to rest the night if they missed the last train or ferry home. Race does not seem to be a criteria, and many love hotels are so automated they never even see who is checking in and out. Second, I would read the forum for places that accept foreigners. Most places that take foreigners seem like they will take any kind of foreigner. Again, I'm not black, so I don't know what the percentage is, but it is my educated opinion that while there are a few places that will take white or Asian foreigners and not black, I think those places are in the extreme minority. The stigma comes in messing around with a foreigner, and the difference between white, black or any other color seems to be generally a much smaller issue once the initial foreign issue has been overcome. Also, while there are many Japanese women who would not have a relationship with a foreigner, my experience is that women in the sex industry are not so picky. You're looking to shag some chick, not marry her. The main barrier to foreigners I have found is often not the girls themselves, but the shop owners who prohibit foreigners on the thought that some of their Japanese customers might not want to follow after us. So on average the racism doesn't come directly from the girls or even the owners, but rather a percentage of the shop's clientele. How big that percentage is is a topic of a different debate. I think it's actually a fairly small but vocal minority.I agree with just about everything above. There is a fear (which can be excitement) of blacks amongst some Japanese, stereotypes derived from the hollywood and porn movies and influenced by pushy Africans in Roppongi. However a well dressed man in a DH situation will probably do fine. Love hotels will admit anyone.Some girls want to try black cock (just like some want white dick), so Nampa may also work in the right setting (clubbing comes to mind).

Gaienmae08

02-03-10, 13:32

Some girls want to try black cock (just like some want white dick), so Nampa may also work in the right setting (clubbing comes to mind).Which reminds me, in case anyone's interested (I didn't know about this before) I ended up in Gas Panic in Shibuya (the one in Center Gai) for the first time a couple of weeks back, clientele was mainly black guys and Japanese girls evidently interested in them. (Though when I say "girl" many of them were best described as "mature".)

Xslikx

02-03-10, 20:40

I've seen that site but what bothers me is the difference in prices:Japanese site:40分10,000円、50分12,000円、60分14,000円以後10分2,000円指名料2,000円交通費、渋谷区、港区1,000円、渋谷区、港区以外2,000円~English site:40min.: 16,000yen50min.: 20,000yen60min.: 24.000yenExtension fee: 4,000yen (every 10min.)Naming fee: 4,000yenTravel expenses: subjected by areaMinato-ku: 2,000yenOther areas: from 4,000yen----Of course they'll take us when so few will. That's up to the individual of course, but pointing it out.I've used The 10,000 Yen a few times. If you speak Japanese, you will get the Japanese prices. The trick is to call the Shinjuku or Ikebukuro shops and just do the whole transaction in Japanese.

Warburton 0263

02-04-10, 07:33

I've seen that site but what bothers me is the difference in prices:Japanese site:40分10,000円、50分12,000円、60分14,000円以後10分2,000円指名料2,000円交通費、渋谷区、港区1,000円、渋谷区、港区以外2,000円～English site:40min.: 16,000yen50min.: 20,000yen60min.: 24.000yenExtension fee: 4,000yen (every 10min.)Naming fee: 4,000yenTravel expenses: subjected by areaMinato-ku: 2,000yenOther areas: from 4,000yen----Of course they'll take us when so few will. That's up to the individual of course, but pointing it out.Look at the difference in price after Translated Japanese site: 40 min 10,000 yen 50 min 12,000 yen, 60 min 14,000 yen After 10 minutes 2,000 yen Nomination fee 2,000 yen Transportation, Shibuya-ku, Minato-ku, ? 1,000, Shibuya-ku, Minato than 2,000 yen

Speedo Guy

02-06-10, 05:04

Thanks for all the reports that lead me to yoshiwara. Been to Thailand to have soapy massage so many times already, but this is the first time that I have the authentic nuru massage. I went to toyko in January, to get to yoshiwara, I took the subway to minowa station and then just kept walking to the left, about 10 minutes, until you see the shell gas station, that is the famous?. I arrived at around 3pm, when a walk around, there are touts standing in front of their stores asking me to get in. I'm Chinese american by the way, but I don't speak japanese at all. Ther first store that I went into is prima donna. I'm sure many of you have heard about this store already. I walked in and asked them was hong konger okay. They said ok, but girls are limited because I'm foreigner. And the price would be 35, 000 yen for 90 minutes. So that's the price that japanese get! Then I choose my girl from their photo collection. Then I was lead to a waiting room where there were 3 other japanese guys there waiting to get some action. I was offered cigarette and drinks. They told me in broken english that my girl won't be available until 4pm, to I waited for quite a bit of time. In the mean time, saw so many different guys coming in and out, many of them are in their 20s, just like me. I originally thought most of the monger would be like middle age. So, finally it's my turn, I was leaded to the hallway and my girl was there waiting for me. She looked more heavy than what is shown in the photo, but she is still fuckable. I was leaded to the room on the third floor, the girl [I forgot her name already] leaded me to sit on the bed and she took my sneakers and socks off. She offered me some tea and we tried to talked a little, but we couldn't because my japanese is bad and her english is bad as well, so finally we started using hand signal. She started taking off my coat, shirt and jeans, and left my underwear on and covered it with a towel, then took my underwear off [does it matter? Why don't they just go straight to the deal]. She hanged my clothes neatly. And I started to take her clothes off. We started with some kissing; I tried to dfk her, but she did not return any favor. I liked playing with her boobs, it's not big but not small either; in the mean time, she stroked my dick as well. After some boobs sucking, I pressed her down and moved south to DATY and finger. I love DATY, doesn't matter my girlfriends or providers, I just love the smell and the sound of eating pussy. My girl has a hairy pussy as most japanese girls have, if it's trimmed or shaved, I would like it better. I went on to eat her pussy for like 10 minutes; she got really juicy and noisy, she shivered once in a while with the contraction of her stomach, I'm pretty sure that she had a good time. It's about time, so I gave her a pat and I laid on the bed and gave her the signal of some dick sucking. She kneeled between my legs and started stroking and sucking my hard rock dick. We had a lot of eye contact, but her technique was not as good, I wound give her a 5/10, I have had better blowjobs. She kept on sucking my dick until I told her to stop. She read my mind, she put a condom on by her mouth and hopped on me cowgirl style. We held hands during the whole time, just like the GFE, japanese providers are really into giving good service. I raised myself up to suck on her tits while she kept fucking me on top. Then we spooned, doggied, mish to finish. I was sweating all overall, and she did not mind at all. We cuddled a little and I kept fondling her tits. She then got up and took the condom off me [nice touch] and went to order some drinks for us. After a while, I am ready for round 2, I pointed to the air mattress that was placed next to the bathtub and she knew what to do. She ran the bathtub and started preparing for the essence of soapland. She leaded me to the tub for a soak and she leaded me to sit on the famous chair with a hole in the middle area and started soaping me up; with this chair, she had easy access to my ass so that she could clean me up thoroughly. Then I was leaded back to the tub and she started mixing to nuru gel and pulled the air mattress down. She lead me to the mattress, first face down, pouring gel to my back and starting kissing my back, and sliding back and forth with her tits and pussy. Then face up, she kept stroking my hot dick and slide her pussy on my dick without penetration. I sucked on her tits with those gel on, it tasted a little weired. And then put a condom on me and here we went. She kept fucking me on top until she's tired. Because it was so slippery, I did not bother to be on top, I just kept pumping from the bottom like there's no tomorrow. She started yelling something in japanese, I didn't know what that is and didn't care, I just kept fucking her. She then started kissing voluntarily and this time dfk. I guessed I made her cum. Both of us kept fucking and moaning like animals until I busted my nuts. It was the most intense orgasm I have ever had, it's like I was in heaven. Even though I came, she kept on fucking and kissing me, that's a special GFE touch I never got from a provider. We hold each other for a while on the slippery mat and we rinsed the gel and I soak in the tube a while. So, it's time to go, she dried me and helped me to put on my clothes, socks and sneakers. What a GFE.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Farape

02-07-10, 13:47

Tried out Honobono today. Website "http://www.hono-bono.com/ladies/en.html" looks promissing with a lot of choices - special rate of JPY 22k for 100min competitive. Called them and requested Cocoa, but she was not on duty - operator suggested Sakurambo, which looked ok to me. When I mentioned my name and the operator noticed I was gaijin, was told that Sakurambo doesn't do gaijin - only girl in the line-up availabe for gaijin at the requested time was Anmitsu. As the picture and data seemed ok I agreed, though it was disappointing that the choice for gaijin (despite the English website) is so limited. Anyway, made my way to Uguisudani, checked in to one of the many hotels and called for Anmitsu to make her way to the room. She arrived within 20 mins. Looks ok (6/10), small breasts but nice sensitive pink nipples and a trimmed (not outright shaved) pussy. Took some time to warm up, shower was pretty sop and then headed for some action in the bed. Nice catbath and then some bbj with special attention to the balls - shiok. fs was nice, lubricants in use where certainly helpful and ample stereo (though fake) sounds. Anmitsu speaks fairly good English and thus had ok conversation during the resting time - quick shower in between and then off to round two. After DAtY and BBJ moved on to Cowgirl and Doggy (nice view). Overall verdict: Professional service & goal (get you off) oriented, but lacking a bit of that GFE feeling. Nevertheless wortwhile bonk. RTF? Not sure, others need to be explored first.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Dung20

02-09-10, 16:02

Well, I've been reading ISG Tokyo thread for a long, long time and although not a frequent p4p guy, I guess I wanted to contribute rather than just lurking around. I've posted on 'the other' guide for p4p in Tokyo a few months back but that site seems to have been destroyed by spambots now. Plus this one is much better so I thought Id sign up and give a little back.I have been to Asian feeling (absolutely brilliant in my opinion. And yes I have been to Thailand). And I've been to janjans (not so brilliant. Girls unattractive, high risk of infection etc) I may post more about these places later but I think there has already been reports on these places. If you want a cheap BJ, go to janjan, if you want service and nice girls go to AF / AR in kabukicho.If however you want a young, cute japanese girl to give you a strip show and a CBJ / HJ for max JPY6000, then go to New Hot Point.I have been there 3 times. Had Rio once and Haruka twice. The system is that there are 2 girls on at anyone time. In my experience, and from looking at the schedule I think this is the system, there will be one hot girl and one not so hot girl (still a 6/10 in looks for the not hot one). I guess that the other hot girls are Yui and Yayoi, purely because they have more photos on the website.So the deal is you go up to the 9th floor, or whatever it is, and you wlak in and the guy asks you, in japanese, if you understand J-go and if you understand the system. I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter if you don't speak Japanese. You give him your phone and anything else that could possibly take photos and then you sit in a waiting room and wait. Its a small room and can get busy, so bear that in mind if you like privacy and only go during off-peak times.After the girls finish servicing the load of guys before you, you will be ushered in to your booth. Basically there is a dance floor with a magic mirror all around and around a dozen booths surrounding the dance floor. Each booth is completely sealed off from everone else and has a direct view of the dancefloor, so you can basically sit there and jerk off if thats your thing. If you want some company, you press a button and a light comes on above your booth. One of the two girls on that shift will knock on the door and ask you which service you want. Hand job or blow job (sorry, should have said when you first get in to the place, you pay 2000 yen and choose your girl, you cannot change your choice after selecting, even if the girl that knocks on your door is hot and you realise you picked the not so hot one that you can see dancing). Hand job is 3000 and blow job is 4000.After you have paid you sit there and watch the dance show. The gils are pretty and will give you a hard on. They come right up to the mirror and rub their pussy. Its good. Although if the place is full, and you know there are 12 guys sitting behind the mirror and you see the girl go up to each of the 12 designated spots and give a kind of robotic pussy rub and show her tits, it can be a bit of a turn off. Anyway. This leads me to my next point. Don't GO THERE IF ITS BUSY!So, the first ever time I went, it was thurs afternoon. Here were 2 guys in the waiting room so I was number three. One guy left as I came in and then another guy left after 10 mins. So I had to wait about 20 mins before showtime started. The three of us were ushered into booths around the stage, and seeing as there are 12 booths they put us far apart from each other. The show started and the girl wasnt that hot that was dancing. I was dissppointed, but remebered Id chosen the other girl so was happy. She knocked on my door and asked me which course I wanted. I said the 4, 000 one and checked it would be with her not the girl currently dancing and she confirmed. She was hot. She took the money, shut the door and then came back in 30 seconds. Now, the booths are tiny, I was sat on a little stool that she had to put outside just so there was room for both of us. She was hot. Prob a 8/10 at the very least with a 9/10 body. Only thing was, I wasnt really sure what to do. I tried to kiss her, she said no. And the only touching I could do was her breast. Then she knealt down and put a condom on my semi hard little soldier and gave what could only be described as a half-hearted 30 second BJ. Then she stood up and in J said that I can come now. Well, thanks sweetheart but last time I checked I'm pretty sure that I was paying you to make that happen. So she gave me a HJ but she had no idea what she was doing. In the end I kind of took matters into my own hand whilst feeling her (amazing) tits and looking at her very cute face. All a bit sad really. Walked out feeling kind of weird.So a few months passed and I thought Id give it another go. Went in at 10am at opening time as Haruka was working and she was my favourite from the schedule photos. Got there at 10 and it was shut. One guy waiting at the door. Went for a walk around Kabukicho, back at 10. 20 and it was open. 2 guys in the waiting room. Same sytem. Desk guy gets me to choose a girl and takes 2000 ye. I sit down and wait. Now, even though this MUST have beenthe first show of the day, me and the 2 guys sit there til 11. Nothing happening. Then we are called in. We sit in our booths and the show starts. Haruka is the first dancer up. Oh my God she is so hot. I could easily have come just by watching her rub her pussy 5 inches from my face. She finishes her dance and then the other girl starts her dance. Not as cute but not bad. Now, I guess at this time Haruka is in a booth with the first in line guy. Thats fine. I try not to think about it and concentrate on the dancing girl. Then her dance finishes. They have a tv on the dance floor that plays porn so I just watch that. There are only 2 guys in front of me, so even if both have chosen Haruka I must only have to wait 10 mins or so. 20 minutes later I'm still sitting there in a tiny booth. Penis limp, thinking about my excuse for being an hour later for work than I thought Id be and she finally comes in. She is so cute and hot. More cute than sexy (Rio is sexy) I guess. And she just stands there, like Rio did. I think to myself, oh dear, this is going to be tough if she is unresponsive as Rio. So I give her a hug and she lets out a little moan. Cute. Then I kiss her shoulder. She is a good little actress and seems into it. Then I chance my arm and go for a proper kiss. She lets me! And seems to love it! This is awesome, to be making out with a girl this hot I would have to usually spend a hell of a lot more money on a fancy date with some stuck up ***** in roppongi. I'm happy. I take off her bra and feel her tits, she even lets me rub her pussy through her panties (I didn't try and get in them, thought that may be pushing it a bit). She seems really into it and takes off my trousers and underwear. Does the obligitory 'ookii! Haranai so. ' crap (it isn't, and it did) and then puts it in her mouth. Even with a condom, one of the best bjs ever, and I hate, I mean HATE cbjs, but this girl had skill. I could have come through that easy, but I really wanted to kiss her some more and get a handful of her young, pert and beautiful tits, so I got her to stand up and jerk me off inside a condom til I cam up against her thigh. She got really into it (I was rubbing her pussy too) and as I was coming I'm petty sure she lost it a bit too as we were kissing that the same time and she was moaning and dribbled a bit on me. From what I could understand she said she was really sorry but really enjoyed it. Whatever, ir was awesome. I would have gladly paid double. She gave me her card with her schedule, another size compliment comment (seriously now, it aint) and the bid me adieu.Trip number 3. Friday night at 7pm. Massive mistake. Haruka on again. I had a terrible week at work and wanted a kiss and a blow job without any hassle. So I got there and there were 4 guys ahead of me. I didn't know this but I must have just missed about 12 guys going in to the show room as I had to wait for 90 mins! By the time all of the guys in the previous show were done, I was so bored. Also, I realised that for the 'servicing' part to have taken that long, it must have been one girl taking on all the workload one by one. Haruka. As the other girl wasnt cute so nobody was picking her. Well, our turn arrived and we were ushered in. We watched the not cute girl dance and then Haruka dance, and then no more dances, and you just sit there. As I was 4th in line and I knew the guys in fn would have def picked Haruka, I knew I was in for a wait, but if the service was anything like last time it would be worth it. It wasnt. I heard her go in and out of each cubicle, counted three times and then it was me. She was literally running between cubicles. She turned up at my door without even having bothered to put her bra back on. She was just holding it up to her tits. She got in, closed the door and started grabbing my cock right away. I felt her tits the she started CBJ. Really fast. I asked her to slow down a bit but she acted like she didn't understand. Problem is, not only is this girl cute but she has got SKILL. If she wants you to come and go. You come and go. She made that happen. Nice as it was, I'm not sure if 2 minutes of pleasure is worth it for pretty much 2 hours of waiting. She actually even apologised as she was doing it, basically saying she has another 9 guys to go and shes going to make me come real fast or guys number 7, 8, 9 are going to cause a riot.Anyway, next time I want to try Yayoi, as she looks cute and is the other one, along with Haruka that has a blog. My recommendation to all is if there are more than 3 people in the waiting room, walk out. And don't ever bother going on a Friday night.In summary. The only place I know that has genuinely hot young japanese girls. But the negative is the amount of time you have to wait around.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Lion

02-10-10, 03:18

Member #3439

02-11-10, 04:55

Which reminds me, in case anyone's interested (I didn't know about this before) I ended up in Gas Panic in Shibuya (the one in Center Gai) for the first time a couple of weeks back, clientele was mainly black guys and Japanese girls evidently interested in them. (Though when I say "girl" many of them were best described as "mature".)White guys will do well here too, if it's not too crowded. In my experience, most of the girls were probably under 23ish. You have to get the girl out of there and off to someplace else quieter if you want to establish enough connection to take the girl to the love hotel. The music is too loud and too many people. NOT speaking Japanese may help the cause. I think the girls are just looking for some strange, something totally unlike a J-salaryman.

Evan Stoner

02-12-10, 16:13

I've had conversations with a couple of guys on here about the "S Chain" of deri-heru, consisting of SK, SSS, SCY and SHG. Well, the SHG blogger just posted the following today:
Beautiful Japanese Ladies available 24H!Hello!If you are first time in Tokyo, Please try our excellent escort service! More than 200 sexy Japanese ladies from 18 to 30 years old are available every day! Will send your lady to your hotel or residence within 30minutes.We open from 9AM to 4AM. Please access our web site.http://www.s-hana.jp (from PC)http://www.s-hana.jp/hp (from Movile)Reservation:03-5719-5110If you do not speak Japanese, just contact General Manager directly at 070-5578-2863. I'm at the office from 1PM to 10PM JST every day.Thank you.Personally, I have used SK and SS in the past and been very satisfied. The above is a VERY GOOD SIGN. Use it, don't abuse it. Follow the rules and don't fuck it up for everybody else. Their site is not very well established in English (yet) but as noted above talk to the GM if you need help or ask me.Here's the blog post link: http://blog.livedoor.jp/s_hanagumi/archives/51471210.htmlES

Backtobasics

02-13-10, 07:29

I've had conversations with a couple of guys on here about the "S Chain" of deri-heru, consisting of SK, SSS, SCY and SHG. Well, the SHG blogger just posted the following today:Personally, I have used SK and SS in the past and been very satisfied. The above is a VERY GOOD SIGN. Use it, don't abuse it. Follow the rules and don't fuck it up for everybody else. Their site is not very well established in English (yet) but as noted above talk to the GM if you need help or ask me.Here's the blog post link: http://blog.livedoor.jp/s_hanagumi/archives/51471210.htmlESExcellent post, Evan. Thank you.Sorry, i didn't catch your earlier writings about 'S Chain'. Am I right in assuming it offers a standard DH service, in which FS is by means a certainty, and most likely unlikely?

Zhuren

02-13-10, 12:39

A little off-topic, but I'm hoping to pick up some hentai local knowledge. Japan, and especially Tokyo used to be heaven for swing clubs, going by the name of "couple kissas" (only couples allowed) and "happening bars" (couples and singles allowed.) We, a gaijin and his Japanese wife have returned to Tokyo for a month and were shocked to notice that most of our favorite haunts were closed:Kagi, an upscale club in Roppongi: ClosedBeauty & Beast, a club with a BDSM theme. ClosedDolphin, a new club in Roppongi: Apparently closed, number disconnectedApart from Roppongi, where all swing related clubs seem to have been eradicated, many other clubs in Tokyo are also shuttered.Silk in Kabukicho, successor to the legendary Le Grand Bleu, remains open and a good stand-by, although the couples to single ratio seems to get totally out of whack.Can anybody shed some light on this? Where does one go these days for a little sexual bartering?

Soujourn

02-13-10, 14:14

http://www.mabe-navi.com/main_east.html Since ur okasan is Japanese shouldn't be any issues to navigate..[QUOTE=Zhuren]A little off-topic, but I'm hoping to pick up some hentai local knowledge. Japan, and especially Tokyo used to be heaven for swing clubs, going by the name of "couple kissas" (only couples allowed) and "happening bars" (couples and singles allowed.) We, a gaijin and his Japanese wife have returned to Tokyo for a month and were shocked to notice that most of our favorite haunts were closed:

Zhuren

02-13-10, 14:29

http://www.mabe-navi.com/main_east.html Since ur okasan is Japanese shouldn't be any issues to navigate..mWe know that site. This one http://www.algo.ecnet.jp/coupl.html served Tokyo even better. Trouble is, many links are dead, and many clubs with live pages are dead nonetheless. We were hoping for more hands-on info, so that we could focus our research.

LoveShibuyaGirls

02-14-10, 02:14

Is there a typo in the phone number?Should it be 080, not 070?
I've had conversations with a couple of guys on here about the "S Chain" of deri-heru, consisting of SK, SSS, SCY and SHG. Well, the SHG blogger just posted the following today:Personally, I have used SK and SS in the past and been very satisfied. The above is a VERY GOOD SIGN. Use it, don't abuse it. Follow the rules and don't fuck it up for everybody else. Their site is not very well established in English (yet) but as noted above talk to the GM if you need help or ask me.Here's the blog post link: http://blog. Livedoor. Jp/s_hanagumi/archives/51471210.htmlES

Evan Stoner

02-14-10, 12:03

Is there a typo in the phone number?Should it be 080, not 070?No, no typo. I just called the guy and it's him. English is fine and he is pretty personable.To respond to another poster, FS is not guaranteed at these types of places. I've had pretty good success rates with this keiretsu but there are no guarantees. When I talked with the guy he said "anything but FS". Check the site for what each girl is willing to do, what options are and so forth. They don't have an English site.At this point I can't recommend this place, since when they say "no FS" it sounds like they mean it. It's not cheap, but not that expensive either (assuming foreigners would get the same rates that are on the Japanese site) so if you are tired of other services you might try this one and let us know how it goes. Whatever happens, follow the rules. If the rules are different for foreigners (or the rates are) I would boycott the place, but right now it's a wait-and-see situation. I was just surprised and encouraged when I saw the English posting.YMMVES

Farape

02-14-10, 13:23

Had a try with Shinagawa Hanagumi (S-Hana), did the booking in Japanese, no issue at all. You can see the girls who are "on.duty" on their webpage, but be aware that short term changes to the schedules of the girls might not be reflected and that not all girls service gaijin (eg the girl I initially wanted "Kira-chan" does not take gaijin).My experience ("Reimi-chan") was overall positive though FS is not part of the service offered (though as with other delivery health shops depending on the chemistry with the girl one might be lucky once in awhile). The girl looked very much like the pictures on the web, nice boobs well formed ass. Small downsize is the hairy pussy, which, however, is fairly standard here. Very GF type action, nice kissing and tender care of all body parts culminating in a very nice and skillful BBJ. Some chatting about this and that in Japanese, then proceeded to second round for much of the same action. 90 mins. Can be over so quickly..As reported pricewise not cheap. (especially as FS is not gteed), but quality of girls seems to be high (judging from my 1 experience and looking at the pics on the web) and time is looked at a little more relaxed than in other places.

Herpes

02-14-10, 16:20

Looks like on the menu looking at the website.Did you try?
No, no typo. I just called the guy and it's him. English is fine and he is pretty personable.To respond to another poster, FS is not guaranteed at these types of places. I've had pretty good success rates with this keiretsu but there are no guarantees. When I talked with the guy he said "anything but FS". Check the site for what each girl is willing to do, what options are and so forth. They don't have an English site.At this point I can't recommend this place, since when they say "no FS" it sounds like they mean it. It's not cheap, but not that expensive either (assuming foreigners would get the same rates that are on the Japanese site) so if you are tired of other services you might try this one and let us know how it goes. Whatever happens, follow the rules. If the rules are different for foreigners (or the rates are) I would boycott the place, but right now it's a wait-and-see situation. I was just surprised and encouraged when I saw the English posting.YMMVES

Lion

02-15-10, 02:18

Jesterl

02-15-10, 02:38

Seems they are getting serious all over the country. Some politician probably found out his wife was going to one and wants them all closed down now...984405984405Please say it aint so! Last time I was in residence, my surprisingly cool girlfriend did it for me as a going-away present. After getting shot down at two places because I was foreign (in all fairness I don't speak Japanese worth a dime), we came across a lovely S and M in Osaka, DC. It was off the grid even then, no sign or phone, but listed on the internet. It's still there. It's run by a lovely goth chick who likes Nine Inch Nails. Her husbund looks a little seedy though, but he never comes.

LoveShibuyaGirls

02-16-10, 11:45

Yes, at the S-Chain of shops, if the girl's icons imply that she does AF, would that also imply FS? If not, I'd think I was in Mexico.
Looks like on the menu looking at the website.Did you try?

Zcorps

02-16-10, 19:14

Yes, at the S-Chain of shops, if the girl's icons imply that she does AF, would that also imply FS? If not, I'd think I was in Mexico.Intercourse is illegal, but anal isn't. However what AF actually means is often different from girl to girl. Some girls will only let you in through the backdoor. For other girls no anal, just normal FS. Honestly though, you guys should go and find out for us. Way too many people ask about AF options, but not enough people ever come back with reports where they chose the AF option.Also, if this place is like other DH, some of the girls might not want a go with foreigners. So we might not have access to an AF provider and this whole topic would be moot.

Ronin7788

02-17-10, 04:46

Also, if this place is like other DH, some of the girls might not want a go with foreigners. So we might not have access to an AF provider and this whole topic would be moot.Went there yesterday and had a nice session with Saya. I can confirm what was said earlier, girls looks really like the ones on the photo.Arranging was very easy and can be done in english if you call to the manager directly. Saya confirmed that almost all girls have no problems with foreigners but it would be better if you can communicate in japanese at least a bit. Nearly all of the girls speak only japanese.Saya was very much what I was looking for, nice girl and very much GFE. But no FS, which was not a problem for me.Will I repeat? Certainly. IMO the best DH service in Tokyo.I went to "NOX" LH in Gotanda. Very nice rooms and very close to SH office. So you don't have to wait long.

Herpes

02-17-10, 17:25

Went again to the Pink Salon in Gotanda (see previous report), still don't know the name. Around 11:30. Quite busy at this time of the day and it should! Its really a steal.3, 000 for BBBJ+CIM with young kind hearted J-girls, even though I'd give them at best 4/10 for looks. 69, DFK, and fingering possible. No FS. Sumata mayB.As a gaijin I had a special treatment I had no choice than to order 2x girls (one at a time) for 7, 000. I thought I'd leave after #1, cause she did her job quite well and I thought I'd have no energy, but #2 was much cuter than #1, and gave me a good hard-on. The fact I was a bit tired from #1, made me keep on longer which is nice. Actually had #2 last time I went there as well. Shes nice. Of note: I asked for a condom for safety but took it out for the finish (ehhehe). You just have to ask.Heard from the girl there are some gaijin regulars. She told me personel from some nearby french & italian restaurant.Will I go again? Not sure. Loud music like in a disco at noon? Getting in and out of that in the middle of salarymen and women staring at you? A tiny waiting room with other salarymen smoking? Risk of gettin home with very dirty clothes?

Edgar Smythe

02-17-10, 17:33

I rather doubt the reports of foreigners of european extraction getting into Smiles. I went there today and was told by the guys at the door that non Japanese are NEVER allowed in. I'm fairly young, fit, friendly and relaxed, so if they would let anyone in who isn't fluent in Japanese and is foreign, it would have been me. By the way, the girls are as young and hot as they look. I saw a few walk by as I was talking with the guys (who were totally polite as they told me no way). I walked down the block and tried a few places until I found this one:http://otsukasaikou.com/gals.phpThey are on the first street to the left where smiles is on the 2nd. They're on the 2nd flight by a sign that says Top, 8000 60 minutes and Paradise over the door. I was shown pics of 3 girls who were available and I took Yumi:http://otsukasaikou.com/gals/yumi.php#TOPWhen I met her, it was not the same girl. The girl I did meet was cute enough, but had a bit of a belly and was at least 35, not 22. Still, I was in the mood and she was quite playful and friendly. She got out a condom, but I'd brought my own. I assumed it was for a bj, but she started a bbbj which I had to stop because I don't do that. Still not happy it happened. She got the condom on, got me hard, and then squatted on top and started fucking me. I assume this must be included, because otherwise why get out a condom when you're going to give a bbbj? After some very pleasant sex, she took me to the single shower, which you get to by walking past reception -- not the best setup. After the shower, she gave me quite a nice massage, and then was ready to go a second time, all for 8000. I wish they had the young girls they advertise, and I wish they had a better setup, but still, two times plus a massage for 8K ain't bad. If anyone knows a place where you can actually get young girls while being a non-japanese speaking foreigner, please let me know. Also, the directions to Grimpeur on their site are pretty bad, can anyone give better directions?Cheers all.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Lion

02-18-10, 03:52

I walked down the block and tried a few places until I found this one:http://otsukasaikou.com/gals.phpEDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.It would not surprise me if all these girls are Chinese. The price is too cheap for hot young J-girls, and the website picts are too good. Still, for 8,000 you were well serviced, so no harm done.

Yamato1

02-18-10, 16:00

The girl looks pretty okay in the photo by my standards.This looks like one of the many Chinese establishments in Otsuka.
I rather doubt the reports of foreigners of european extraction getting into Smiles. I went there today and was told by the guys at the door that non Japanese are NEVER allowed in. I'm fairly young, fit, friendly and relaxed, so if they would let anyone in who isn't fluent in Japanese and is foreign, it would have been me. By the way, the girls are as young and hot as they look. I saw a few walk by as I was talking with the guys (who were totally polite as they told me no way). I walked down the block and tried a few places until I found this one:http://otsukasaikou.com/gals.phpThey are on the first street to the left where smiles is on the 2nd. They're on the 2nd flight by a sign that says Top, 8000 60 minutes and Paradise over the door. I was shown pics of 3 girls who were available and I took Yumi:http://otsukasaikou.com/gals/yumi.php#TOPWhen I met her, it was not the same girl. The girl I did meet was cute enough, but had a bit of a belly and was at least 35, not 22. Still, I was in the mood and she was quite playful and friendly. She got out a condom, but I'd brought my own. I assumed it was for a bj, but she started a bbbj which I had to stop because I don't do that. Still not happy it happened. She got the condom on, got me hard, and then squatted on top and started fucking me. I assume this must be included, because otherwise why get out a condom when you're going to give a bbbj? After some very pleasant sex, she took me to the single shower, which you get to by walking past reception -- not the best setup. After the shower, she gave me quite a nice massage, and then was ready to go a second time, all for 8000. I wish they had the young girls they advertise, and I wish they had a better setup, but still, two times plus a massage for 8K ain't bad. If anyone knows a place where you can actually get young girls while being a non-japanese speaking foreigner, please let me know. Also, the directions to Grimpeur on their site are pretty bad, can anyone give better directions?Cheers all.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

LoveShibuyaGirls

02-20-10, 02:34

Intercourse is illegal, but anal isn't. However what AF actually means is often different from girl to girl. Some girls will only let you in through the backdoor. For other girls no anal, just normal FS. Honestly though, you guys should go and find out for us. Way too many people ask about AF options, but not enough people ever come back with reports where they chose the AF option.Also, if this place is like other DH, some of the girls might not want a go with foreigners. So we might not have access to an AF provider and this whole topic would be moot.Ha, yeah, sounds like Mexico to me.

Edgar Smythe

02-20-10, 14:57

The girl looks pretty okay in the photo by my standards.This looks like one of the many Chinese establishments in Otsuka.Read carefully. The woman I saw was not the girl in the pic, was much older, and had a bit of a belly.Again, anyone with info on other gaijin friendly spots with actual young girls?Also, anyone have easy to follow directions for grimpeur? Thanks.

Farape

02-20-10, 18:32

Tried "Otsukasaiko" - http://otsukasaikou.com/gals.php, thanks Yamato1 for your report pointing in this direction. Confirmed that all gals are Chinese. As I didn't immediately find the place called the no. listed on the internet. Papasan easily navigated (in Japanese) me to the place. Had a choice of gals (3 or so) want for Kiki. Pic on the web is heavily enhanced, but her looks are ok (for my taste). Very bubbly gal, enjoying herself throughout the 60 mins. Quick shower, some chatting and then on the action as has been reported, but w/o BJ straight to the real action. Thereafter halfway decent massage some more chatting and time (60mins) was over. 60 mins is 1 shot and JPY 8k, which for Tokyo standards a bargain. Setting is very basic and the gals are a bit "worn out", but for quick relief this is not bad.

Yamato1

02-21-10, 15:15

That's exactly what I meant. I've been to these places especially when they were all concentrated in the Sugamo area. There's not once that I've been to a Chinese run esute and have been serviced by someone remotely close to the photo. But these places will take foreigners.AM seems to be your best bet by the recent posts. Places in Yoshiwara have said to take in foreigners but you need to speak the language, even a little. Good Luck.
Read carefully. The woman I saw was not the girl in the pic, was much older, and had a bit of a belly.Again, anyone with info on other gaijin friendly spots with actual young girls?Also, anyone have easy to follow directions for grimpeur? Thanks.

Edgar Smythe

02-21-10, 16:18

So I went to New Hot Point today. It was easy to find via Google maps streetview.I took the elevator up to the 9th floor, no problem at the door, paid 2000, gave him my cell phone. I had to pick a girl. There was only one choice even though two girls were working. I picked, was escorted to a booth, and hung out.A couple of minutes later, the girl, who was quite pretty, knocked and asked me what service I wanted. Since I can't read japanese, I picked the 4000 yen service, which is apparently "lippu service".BTW, can anyone tell us what you get for 3000 and 2000?I paid her, she left, then I hung out watching the other girl dance. Both girls were equally pretty, depending on your taste. My girl was perhaps hotter.After the other girl was finished, my girl danced for a set, then finished. Then no one was dancing and I waited another 10 minutes or so before she knocked on the door. When it opened, she removed the stool so there'd be room for both of us, then closed the door. She gave me a moist towel and had my wipe my hands clean, then she applied a condom and started sucking.During the oral, she was not very receptive to being touched. I was allowed some breast touching, but she made it rather clear that nothing else was welcome. She didn't stop, however, and seemed committed to going as long as it took.After a while, I finished, and she gave me another moist towel and thanked me politely with a smile.All in all, I didn't think it was that great because I like to be able to finger the girls and get them worked up. If they just suck away as a job without feeling anything, it's not that interesting for me.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Vincent Chase

02-22-10, 03:04

I'm a long-time reader first time poster. I went to Jan Jan last Monday with the help of the pictures and information I got from this forum. It is so easy to find right outside of Sugamo station. I got waved right down the stairs and was relieved of 3000 Yen. They sat me down in a booth and gave me some green tea. The first girl was named Aki. She was super thin to the point that it wasn't even fun to grab her ass cause all you felt was bone. Anyway she went right to work and for 10 minutes I kept going from hard to semi-flaccid since her technique was so bad. She just kept her mouth on the tip and connected her index finger and thumb to stroke the shaft. It didn't really do it for me. She asks if I want to go again and I say only if its a different girl. She says of course they take my other 3000 Yen and Reira comes out. Now this girl has talent, she took care of the boys downstairs for a bit and then took me all the way in damn near to the balls. After about 5 minutes with her I came in her mouth and kept going for a couple extra seconds. She spits into the towel gives me a fresh one to wipe off and I'm on my way. She made it worth my trip. I wonder if its part of the system to give you an amateur so that they can get another 3000 out of you? Either way it was a good experience in the end. Almost no Japanese ability required.

Sound7

02-22-10, 03:46

Thanks for sharing the report. Was it a issue of a poor "Giri" service for 3000 Y ?
So I went to New Hot Point today. It was easy to find via Google maps streetview.I took the elevator up to the 9th floor, no problem at the door, paid 2000, gave him my cell phone. I had to pick a girl. There was only one choice even though two girls were working. I picked, was escorted to a booth, and hung out.A couple of minutes later, the girl, who was quite pretty, knocked and asked me what service I wanted. Since I can't read japanese, I picked the 4000 yen service, which is apparently "lippu service".BTW, can anyone tell us what you get for 3000 and 2000?I paid her, she left, then I hung out watching the other girl dance. Both girls were equally pretty, depending on your taste. My girl was perhaps hotter.After the other girl was finished, my girl danced for a set, then finished. Then no one was dancing and I waited another 10 minutes or so before she knocked on the door. When it opened, she removed the stool so there'd be room for both of us, then closed the door. She gave me a moist towel and had my wipe my hands clean, then she applied a condom and started sucking.During the oral, she was not very receptive to being touched. I was allowed some breast touching, but she made it rather clear that nothing else was welcome. She didn't stop, however, and seemed committed to going as long as it took.After a while, I finished, and she gave me another moist towel and thanked me politely with a smile.All in all, I didn't think it was that great because I like to be able to finger the girls and get them worked up. If they just suck away as a job without feeling anything, it's not that interesting for me.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Herpes

02-22-10, 15:31

tried "otsukasaiko" - http://otsukasaikou.com/gals.php, thanks yamato1 for your report pointing in this direction. confirmed that all gals are chinese. as i didn't immediately find the place called the no. listed on the internet. papasan easily navigated (in japanese) me to the place. had a choice of gals (3 or so) want for kiki. pic on the web is heavily enhanced, but her looks are ok (for my taste). very bubbly gal, enjoying herself throughout the 60 mins. quick shower, some chatting and then on the action as has been reported, but w/o bj straight to the real action. thereafter halfway decent massage some more chatting and time (60mins) was over. 60 mins is 1 shot and jpy 8k, which for tokyo standards a bargain. setting is very basic and the gals are a bit "worn out", but for quick relief this is not bad.hi,the website is very similar to http://n-carnival.com/main.htmlwhich i reported about and actually the photo of the top girl (miho) used to be on the carnival site (based in nearby nippori). so please look at my other posts regarding the service. what i can say its v cheap considered the service. fs included no pb. the girls are 5/10 at best but service was quite good as far as i'm concerned.

Sound7

02-22-10, 19:33

Japan has a steady decline in customer service as it is apperent from the service you received and news reports regarding recalls. The Japanese Shinto mind is more focuced on money, expansion and not the quality or good service. Customer is no longer "God." Today in Washington DC a criminal case is being considered against a major firm part of Japan Inc. It could be all legal crap in the end? Who really knows? Does one complain about bad BJ service in Tokyo? Move on?
I wonder if its part of the system to give you an amateur so that they can get another 3000 out of you? Either way it was a good experience in the end. Almost no Japanese ability required.

Edgar Smythe

02-22-10, 20:53

Thanks for sharing the report.Was it a issue of a poor "Giri" service for 3000 Y ?I went to New Hot Point, and took the 4000 Y 'lipu service'. She was willing to suck, and wasn't that bad at it, but it was way too businesslike for my taste.Also, I hate it when a girl doesn't like to be touched. On another subject, I'm curious about fetish sites: what are some good links for those?

Carberry

02-22-10, 21:37

I'm a long-time reader first time poster. I went to Jan Jan last Monday with the help of the pictures and information I got from this forum. It is so easy to find right outside of Sugamo station. ......I wonder if its part of the system to give you an amateur so that they can get another 3000 out of you? Either way it was a good experience in the end. Almost no Japanese ability required.Not in my experience. Admittedly I've only been there twice.You were probably just unlucky that time -- you didn't click with the girl. I had a similar bad time at Hinomaru once, thanks to a combination of beer, jet lag and a rather plumpy lady. I couldn't fault her work ethic, though.3,000 yen is still cheap for a BJ considering a lot of places would charge you 2,000 yen just for the nomination fee.

Gaijin Otoko

02-23-10, 04:44

I wonder if its part of the system to give you an amateur so that they can get another 3000 out of you? Either way it was a good experience in the end. Almost no Japanese ability required.I doubt it's an effort to rip you off. I think you just got a lemon. I've never had a problem, but it is not a place I hit all that often.

Izanagi

02-23-10, 17:15

For those who want more information about New Hot Point :http://www.new-hot-point.com/index2.htmlI went there a few years ago and the girls were really pretty.

Tartartokyo

02-23-10, 19:55

Been lurking around here for a while, and saw that there's some confusion regarding FS, so I figured I'd share my experiences so far.First, not all DH places serve Gaijin, at the ones that do not all girls will do it, and in most cases they'll want you to at least be able to communicate in Japanese.As for FS, since it's forbidden by law, they will NEVER tell you that FS is possible. However, I have yet to find a place where AF actually means anal. It's code for FS. Sometimes they'll make a show of it. "Oh, it's so big, it'll never fit in my ass. What will we do? ", but in most cases they'll just get right down to it. Note that in some places it's included as part of the "basic" service, but in most it's an option that you have to pay extra for. In any case, not all girls will do it, so make sure you ask for a girl who does if that's what you're after.One last thing to note. There are girls who don't use condoms, so be prepared and make sure you have your own at hand.

Izanagi

02-24-10, 08:05

Incredulo

02-24-10, 08:17

Ronin7788

02-24-10, 09:53

Achup

02-24-10, 12:12

As for FS, since it's forbidden by law, they will NEVER tell you that FS is possible. However, I have yet to find a place where AF actually means anal. It's code for FS. Milky Baby and its sister websites - (J-Profile & Fussen Fetish)AF Courses and AF options mean AF.Or at least at J-Profile, the AF course did (So i would assume the options for the others are the same)

Evan Stoner

02-24-10, 13:38

There was a news story, one or two weeks ago, about a Japanese man in Fukuoka who called for DH at his home and threatened the girl with a katana because she didn't let him have FS.I had to look this up and confirm that he threatened the girl with "a katana" and not with "his katana". And here it is: http://www.asahi.com/national/update/0217/SEB201002170008.html.Nice. Gotta love that Samurai spirit.ES

OldAsiaHand

02-24-10, 15:11

I got waved right down the stairs and was relieved of 3000 Yen. What time did you go? They always charge me 4,000 but I have only been there in the evening.OAH

Gaijin Otoko

02-25-10, 02:02

Guys,Just came across this place after hours of surfing. I'm not in Tokyo, so haven't had a chance to check it out, but it's in English and therefore, must be foreigner friendly. Unless the JET Program has been excessively successful and everyone is now speaking English over there.http://www.club-harmony.com/english.htmlI've not been there, as I'm not an S&M fan. But beware, from what I understand, a number of Japanese S&M clubs are just that, with no sexual contact whatsoever. Personally I've never had to pay women to deny me sex and treat me like shit. I guess I've just been lucky. If that's your thing, enjoy!

Tokyo Nampa King

02-25-10, 02:59

i've not been there, as i'm not an s&m fan. but beware, from what i understand, a number of japanese s&m clubs are just that, with no sexual contact whatsoever. personally i've never had to pay women to deny me sex and treat me like shit. i guess i've just been lucky. if that's your thing, enjoy!actually reviewing the website they offer both s and m service. in other words if you are an s and want to tie her up, abuse her mentally, do [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) play. etc all are available (actually the m course is the cheaper of the 3). then they have the s course where you would be the m. then they have the mixed course.actually seems like a nice place and i'm thinking to book kaori. will report back when i do (the one in red with the big tits)p.s. i think in fact there are only 3 or 4 girls as the half face pics seem to be the same girls in different costumes.

Dude1979

02-25-10, 06:23

This is a bit off topic, but I hope somebody could help me out.I need to entertain some (male) guests from US, and i dont really want to take them to the strip joints in roppongi.I was thinking about japanese strip clubs, or at least something more "local", and on the cheap side. I heard of cheap strip clubs for salarymen in Shibuya, but can't really find one. Anybody can recommend one?Or something else (but no hostess clubs), any advise is appreciated.

Vincent Chase

02-25-10, 07:09

What time did you go?They always charge me 4,000 but I have only been there in the evening.OAHIt was a Monday around 12pm.

LoveShibuyaGirls

02-25-10, 23:17

I wonder if there is any difference in the service between this S-chain shops.S-Hana costs 20000Yen for 90 mins but S-chaya and S-Komachi charges 26000Yen. Does it mean that FS is included with them?Girls quality looks to be the same and from my experience with S-Hana I would stick with them if the other S-chain shops offer the same.The only difference I can see is that Komachi and Sweet Spot seem to have younger girls than Hana and Chaya. I actually can't see any difference between Komachi and Sweet Spot except that Sweet Spot says no foreigners on their website.

X Tamron

02-26-10, 07:52

Herpes

02-26-10, 17:00

HiI wanted to try Minisuka which someone reported about today.Went on a Friday 7pm. My nihongo is ok. Went to an apartment building whose 1f is a family mart, room 201 (see their website). Tencho showed me some photos. Paid 18000+2000 for 1h CIM option. Obviously they have other foreign custys.In addition, have to pay 4500 for LH hoteru mare just next to it. Girl arrived 10mns later. Young 20yo, "RENA" small 155cm with big tits for her size, half korean. Wouldn't do FS. So got my revenge by getting her to do BBBJ for a whole 30mns, and finally CIM (removing gum before). Was quite a cutey, but would have loved to FS her, I wld have cum much easier for sure. At 1st she was into it and played ***** while BBBJ, but when she saw I didn't come that easily, she kind of "panicked" and had to made obvious efforts to be professional, but all in all the service was good.However FS was not in the menu, and I think its not really good value for the price. For example, I reported about Nippori where for less than 15, 000 (all included) you can have 3p with FS with Chinese or thai girls not so bad looking.But hey, for that price, its like barbie or the sims, you can ask the counterguy what dress and underwear she will wear. Thats fetish you know!Will I try again? No. Do I regret? NoMuch better value the pink salon I reported about in the area: 2 BBBJ + CIM for 7, 000 yens. But have to like loud music, and little privacy. And a little worse and more plain looking J-girls.

Bijinnampa

02-28-10, 04:17

Hi folks,Anyone has info which Gotanda-places are gaijin-friendly besides yuyu?Prefer to meet with J-girls rather than Chinese.For instance, would be great fun try thehttp://www.Maruhi-densetsu.com/Or their "younger OL" counterpart. My nihongo is nikyu levelBTW. Has any of the laddies (not ladies. In here tested the UenoBusty-p uherai or peach places?Can so far as report only contribute with som AFF experiences. Nice (tatoed girl, met 4 times, then suddenly her chubby found out I think, so she just disappeared from correspondence.) + some recent visits to the UCLA Ikebukuru (health course. 40 mins, giggly girls. BBBJ, maybe I should worry?

Member #3439

02-28-10, 14:58

What time did you go? They always charge me 4,000 but I have only been there in the evening.OAHI just arrived in Japan and hit the infamous Jan-Jan today for a kick-off to my mongering on this trip. The time was 12 pm and the price was 3000. The house was full at 11:50 and everyone was waiting in the booths for the girls to show up. The BJ was just okay but I got a lot of feel-up time before she ever started sucking, so that makes up for it. I had saved a lot of product for the purpose of maybe choking out a girl here, but they are pros and I can never do it. My girl went down and milked out for probably 30 seconds, then came up with the puffy cheek full mouth look. I was trying to keep from laughing. Sometimes I think that there is something wrong with the Jan-Jan girls. They don't do a dick inspection like other Japanese girls...and they don't mind you sticking fingers wherever, dry...and not considering the fundamental fact that they perch on one hand licking balls and sucking sperm all day for little money. Must be fresh off the farm and not realizing the greater opportunities in Tokyo...anway, they are weird, just my type..so I am wondering if it is possible to recruit one of these girls to my hotel for all night anal fucking at a very reasonable price.So I still like Jan-Jan and it's still the cheapest BBBJ w CIM that I know of in the first world, so I'll be back before the end of the trip. I nearly missed my flight the last time because I was at Jan-Jan for a parting shot. :)

Member #3439

02-28-10, 15:46

I've not been there, as I'm not an S&M fan. But beware, from what I understand, a number of Japanese S&M clubs are just that, with no sexual contact whatsoever. Personally I've never had to pay women to deny me sex and treat me like shit. I guess I've just been lucky. If that's your thing, enjoy!Certainly there is a community of people within ISG that are interested in such things, and in Tokyo you can get any kind of dominatrix scene that you want and from an English speaking Japanese dominatrix. It's shady though, like something from a spy movie. Since it's hard, only the dedicated pervs will actually go through, so this is a defense against anybody who thinks on a whim that they want that, and in the end won't go through. I would expect the following from any service that is professional and offering unlimited services.1. Call a number, make an appointment for the next day. You are told to go to a payphone at a designated location and call back from there the next day, shortly before the appointed time.2. You arrive at the payphone and call the operators, tell her that you have arrived as instructed, then tell them what tools that the domina should bring. You describe what you are wearing (your clothes) and go wait at a different location for a respresentative to show up.3. Someone arrives and sizes you up to make sure you are not police.4. The person takes you to where the dominatix is waiting, like a restaraunt or cafe. The dominatrix has her gear in tow.5. The dominatrix eats or drinks something with you and interviews you to make sure you are for real, talks about your experience level and so forth.6. Proceed to love hotel.7. Fill out a form that describes your limits and desired scene. This is filed for future reference.8. You are issued a member number that you can use to book future sessions without doing all the above. 9. Session start.

Evan Stoner

03-01-10, 13:24

Two of the S-series shops have closed, and they have merged their girls with the other two.Closed are:スウィートスポット ("SS")渋谷茶屋 ("SCY")Girls are merged into:品川小町 ("SK") http://www.s-komachi.jp/品川華組 ("SHG) http://www.s-hana.jp/I for one like the move -- simplifies matters. SHG is the one that now takes foreigners.ES

Carberry

03-01-10, 23:06

I just arrived in Japan and hit the infamous Jan-Jan today ...So I still like Jan-Jan and it's still the cheapest BBBJ w CIM that I know of in the first world, so I'll be back before the end of the trip. I nearly missed my flight the last time because I was at Jan-Jan for a parting shot. :)I'm not a pinsaro veteran but I've been to Janjan and Hinomaru. When I was at Hinmaru I didn't think to myself, "WoW! This is the high life." It just cost over double JanJan for a very similar service. The main difference was I had a beer not Oolong cha and the girl showed me to the exit and bowed like at a hostess bar. The actual BJ was the same.Pinsaro is normally regarded as the low end of the Japanese sex industry, isn't it? Kind of a starter course for girls who might go on to better things.As you say where else in the first world can you get a BJ for ?20 ($30 or equivalent.)

Simple Aja

03-02-10, 08:23

Sound7

03-02-10, 08:35

ＪａｎＪａｎmaps.google.com日本〒116-0001 東京都荒川区町屋２丁目２−５03-3895-8170Train: 町屋駅（東京）（京成線）Hai?
I'm not a pinsaro veteran but I've been to Janjan and Hinomaru. When I was at Hinmaru I didn't think to myself, "WoW! This is the high life." It just cost over double JanJan for a very similar service. The main difference was I had a beer not Oolong cha and the girl showed me to the exit and bowed like at a hostess bar. The actual BJ was the same.Pinsaro is normally regarded as the low end of the Japanese sex industry, isn't it? Kind of a starter course for girls who might go on to better things.As you say where else in the first world can you get a BJ for ?20 ($30 or equivalent.)

Samurai666

03-02-10, 10:33

Harmony has been around for a long time, but the English site is new, guess they are feeling the recession too. Started going there a few years ago and even back then the guy who runs it said that they have a fair number of gaijin customers. They are used to foreigners for sure.Having said that, most of staff and girls speak zero English, hence the new e-mail appointment procedure I guess.The girls are okay quality, but very few stunners, which is no surprise given that the clients are mostly S which can be hard on the girls. They also tend to be a little bit on the older side by Shibuya standards, but good overall by SM standards.I found it slighly overpriced, basic fee 26,000, plus AF 10,000 plus hotel 4000, total 40,000 Yen. I think this is about 10, 000 more than you would pay in Ikebukuro for example. Not a bad place though if you don't speak Japanese.

Gaijin Otoko

03-03-10, 01:01

ＪａｎＪａｎmaps.google.com日本〒116-0001 東京都荒川区町屋２丁目２−５03-3895-8170Train: 町屋駅（東京）（京成線）Hai? Iie, chigaimasu. Unless there's a new location that I'm unfamiliar with, the Jan Jan that everyone is talking about is in Sugamo, right out of Sugamo train station along an area some affectionately call "blowjob alley."

Ronin7788

03-03-10, 03:56

Maybe we should put up a list of which Honobono girl accepts foreigners and also maybe a kind of recommendations.For example:Honey: not GFAnmitu: GFGirl I can not recommend: WakamePlease feel free to add.

Sound7

03-03-10, 07:28

Any particular direction or exit to head into alley?Thanks for the clarification.
Iie, chigaimasu. Unless there's a new location that I'm unfamiliar with, the Jan Jan that everyone is talking about is in Sugamo, right out of Sugamo train station along an area some affectionately call "blowjob alley."

Nakameguro97

03-03-10, 12:32

For those of you who have not tried KDH, I refer you to this excellent post by Basementcello. For JPY20k+5k hotel, you can get FS with some stunners - better looking than almost any JGirl you will meet in Fuzoku unless you go to some high end hostess clubs, where nothing is guaranteed, and you pay a great deal more. You have to read a little Japanese on the link he referred to, but it's not hard to understand. In fact, I think many of the posters on that site tend to be overly harsh on their reviews - but that's to our benefit. An added plus is, the mama-san's tend to be very tolerant of foreigners using their services - you just need to speak some very basic Japanese on the phone. But as noted, KDH sites are noted for their over-indulgence in Photoshop, so it helps when you can find a video that's untouched. I will post something next week with more detailed specific reviews.
I reported about a crappy experience with a Korean DH I ordered from in Uguisudani a while ago. I was looking for some info on which would be a good place to order from so that I would be better informed in future and I stumbled upon something interesting I should probably warn you guys about.Anyway, Japanese punters regularly report on their trips to hotel healths, soaplands etc on the internet. If you type in something like 体験レポート and the name of the place you want to know about in google.co.jp, there may be a review or two there to take a look at. I was having a look after my bad experience with story DH, and found this website where guys can report on the individual girls of each Korean health in Tokyo.http://www.kan-deli.net/index.htmlThey have lots of reports and links to the websites of the healths with dates and names of the girls. The good thing is that they comment on how good looking the girls actually are in person, how their performance is in the bedroom and what services they give. They go into a fair amount of detail - does the girl have piercings, does she smoke, does she speak Japanese or English. What was quite funny was they even list if her breath or pussy smells funny, how tight she is downstairs and what brand of cigarette she smokes! Like listing video game characteristics in some bizarre RPG.So they have a code, to talk about each girl like we do on international sex guide. I had a look around at some other websites and managed to understand this much at least. Kissing is DK, BBBJ is NF (or nama fera in Japanese) and there are a few others I could decipher. I was somewhat vexed by these three which seemed to crop up often in Japanese guy's reports:G着NSNNAfter reading several reports it became clear (and forgive my naiveness if you already know this). G着 (G for gomu) refers to full sex with a condom. NS (nama soto) is unprotected sex, cumming outside the girl. NN (nama naka) refers to unprotected sex cumming inside the girl. Just glancing at the reports, it is clear that almost half the girls regularly give FS without a condom. There are references to girls saying things like "I'm on the pill, so its ok" or "without condom is fine, just make sure you finish outside" and so on. Of course, the punters who report are thrilled to bits with this and expect unprotected FS from Korean girls as standard. There may be further info on this for regular Japanese healths out there but I have yet to see it.In this day and age it seems unbelievable! But there you have it, be very careful when ordering from Korean DH places. Who knows where she's been.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Member #3439

03-03-10, 15:51

I'm not a pinsaro veteran but I've been to Janjan and Hinomaru. When I was at Hinmaru I didn't think to myself, "WoW! This is the high life." It just cost over double JanJan for a very similar service. The main difference was I had a beer not Oolong cha and the girl showed me to the exit and bowed like at a hostess bar. The actual BJ was the same.Pinsaro is normally regarded as the low end of the Japanese sex industry, isn't it? Kind of a starter course for girls who might go on to better things.As you say where else in the first world can you get a BJ for ?20 ($30 or equivalent.)Yes, I visited Hinomaru on the last trip and Jan-Jan blows it away, pardon the pun. My worst session at JanJan was better than that, and half the price. Also, don't try the place with the pink sign down the street from Jan-Jan..I got a covered BJ there and the girl quit before I came. I walked back to Jan-Jan to get a finish.As for the high life, I see that flights from NAR-BKK and NAR-MNL are about $500US and it's clear that one could do a lot of mongering there for the price of a a few Japan DH sessions. I am thinking of Siem Reap, myself, as I hear that is a better environment for people who just want to chill out, maybe see some sights, and nail a lot of girls at low cost. I was only a latin america monger prior to starting my asia visits, Brasil, Mexico, so all the complications of urban asia mongering are still stressful to me;however, I still do it. :)Gaijin Otoko, yes it's the one in Sugamo at the train exit with the roundoutabut. Come out the train station look straight ahead and you'll see BJ alley with touts standing outside. It's the place on the right with the red sign and white letters. If any mongers can't find it, just pm me and I'll help.As for pinsaro being the low end of the sex industry, I'd say yes it's for the girls that can't go anywhere else. That being said, the J-girl bodies are all the same and we can't see anything but the sides or tops of their heads, so the skills of the trade are all that matter in the pink salon.

Carberry

03-03-10, 21:55

Hallo all,I am an old member first time poster. Thank you everyone that has provide many useful information.I would like to ask if I want to book a girl from this website http://www.S-hana. Jp/information.htmlHow should I pay them later on?Can the payment be made by phone? Since I might pay with credit card?Or I pay the girl later on?ThanksYour link is bad.http://www.s-hana.jp/main.htmlThe site doesn't look GF but I don't know anything about it.They take payment by credit card. You can give the card info on the phone. You'll need to speak fairly good Japanese to manage that. You get charged 20% extra for credit card payment. I'm not sure it's a great idea to give out your credit card details like that.I would recommend cash payment.

Carberry

03-03-10, 21:58

Zcorps

03-03-10, 22:09

Your link is bad.http://www.s-hana.jp/main.htmlThe site doesn't look GF but I don't know anything about it.They take payment by credit card. You can give the card info on the phone. You'll need to speak fairly good Japanese to manage that. You get charged 20% extra for credit card payment. I'm not sure it's a great idea to give out your credit card details like that.I would recommend cash payment.Another member mentioned that these guys were Gaijin friendly. So he's good on that front. As for the safety issue, I've done it before with other places. It's fairly safe. You give them your info and then they will bring a paper for you to sign. THey'll either have the driver make you sign it, or they'll have the girl make you sign it. It depends on the company. The only downside is the 20% fee which they charge everybody, this isn't some gaijin fee.

Lion

03-04-10, 04:41

Irishman98

03-04-10, 22:08

The place you mentioned in ikebukuro do they have a web site?

Member #3439

03-05-10, 20:40

Last time I was in Japan I went to JanJan and having some time to kill afterwards I took a walk around the area the opposite side of the station.There seem to be a number of what I take to be BJ places there. I didn't try to enter as I was already spent.I wondered if any members have tried these other places.I saw your post above tonight, so decided to take one for the team and try one of these places. So I washed my balls and rode an hour up from Yokohama and did the walk of shame. None of the touts would even look at me. I was even dressed nicely in my biz casual work clothes. I was psyched to say "Kono ie wa nama fera desu ka?" Which is my closest approximation to "is this a house with BBBJ" If someone can say it correctly, let us know how to inquire on this important topic. So, since I was there, I decided to swing over to the south exit where I am welcome, looping around and coming up BJ alley back to the station. The tout from AM.PM (pink sign at the far end of BJ alley, not the convenience store) tried to get me in there. I had bad covered service there, so know better. The tout from Jan Jan spotted me and started the deep bowing, douzo. So of course I had to go in.Anyway, at the risk of making this Jan-Jan forum, I will report on it. Only because it is entertaining and I this is the first time that ever I've gotten and understood the name for a J-girl that I've played with. Usually, whether its the FS places or Pinsaros, they have the music turned up to loud, and I can't tell what they are saying. I got there about 10 pm. I was assigned a girl who calls herself Lisa. She speaks a little rudimentary English. She asked all the niceties, name, where from etc. then wanted me to take my pants off right away..hurry, hurry. I was prepared for the worst, thinking that she was trying to get done fast and get to the next stick. But then she wrapped her arms around me and went for DFK. Okay, so I know this makes me raunchy but I went along with it...to the point of FK but not DFK. Then she spit on her hand and rubbed it on her pussy and then took my hand and showed me that she wanted to be fingered. So of course I did that, I always do. Usually they don't lube up ask for it though.So then she started the ball work..but she had some kind of xylitol or mint gum in her mouth that made my balls feel mentholated. Not good. Then she started on my cock, but the mint gum was so strong it was desensitizing my dick...this happened to me before in Brasil, took forever to get hard..but fortunately I adapted this time and didn't have to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) her off by asking her to take the gum out. So I am fingering her pussy and she's sucking, then her pussy was getting dry so she spat on it some more..and finally my minty fresh dick got hard. Once I got hard, she went to work furiously...but then she stopped, jumped up and sat on the bench, then laid back and spread her legs. I thought, holy shit she wants me to bareback her. So I reached up into my coat that was on the hanger to grab a condom from the pocket.She saw this and said "no, no"...then she made a gesture like eating pussy..so she was wanting to be eaten out. So, I got down and actually did eat her out. I know that is stupid to do that to a Jan-Jan girl, but my drive knows no bounds. I can say that her pussy was fresh and I don't think that there was anything wrong with it.Next she started the BJ again. I knew that she is some kind of horny ass, so I decided to push my limits a little. I pulled my finger out of her pussy and tried to push it into her ass dry. I got maybe up to the first knuckle. She didn't mind...so I pushed it again. I pulled my finger from her asshole and put it into her mouth to be lubed up. She was confused for a second about being stopped from blowing, but then saw what was going on and started sucking on my finger to lube it up. Ass-to-mouth. I got my middle finger all the way up her ass and started ramming like crazy. This was even more fun than the BJ. Partly I was laughing inside because I was just thinking earlier today that I need to cut my fingernails so I don't hurt any girl with them....anyway, she was sucking to the rythym of the goofy Jan-Jan music and I was ramming my finger in her ass to the same beat...hilarious. I finished in her mouth and she spat it out, then wiped me up..but kept going for my ass with the cloth. I don't know what she was trying. Giving me a hard time for having poked her asshole or something, it was hard to tell. She was giggling about it.I was escorted to the door by her. This is the first time that I have been escorted to the door by a girl at this place. Another girl was also escorting her stick to the door. As we were walking out, I got to see "Lisa: in the light. She wasn't bad looking at all. If this had been a DH job in good lighting, I would have been pleased. The other girl escorting the other guy out was actually very good looking and had a nice body.Anyway, the pink salons on the other side are more expensive according to the signs, and gaijins are invisible to them, so I wouldn't waste time trying to talk your way inside because the service would probably be bad once you got there. Someone commented on the price of Jan-Jan, asking is it 4k or 3k? This was my first night trip to BJ alley and every sign on that side of the station said 4k. I paid 4k. Last Sunday afternoon all the signs said 3K and I paid 3k. So sometime in the evening it must go up to 4k. I think I remember an old post that said 7 pm, but can't be sure. I remember that on my first trip I went before a certain time because I knew that the prices change in the evening.Based on this experience vs my cheaper daytime experiences, it seems that the extra 1k buys you a GFE session, a better looking girl, and you get escorted to the door by the girl. A higher level of service.Next time I think I will try the other place in BJ alley that waves me in. I think it is the one nearest the station on the right, just before Jan Jan. Has anyone tried any others. I reported on AM.PM in July but haven't seen other reports on anything other than Jan Jan...I don't think Jan-Jan can be surpassed at the same price level, but would like to try.

Carberry

03-05-10, 23:55

Thanks for the report on the other BJ alleys at Sugamo.It's interesting you should have had such a demanding time at JanJan.A few times in London I have gone for a massage+HR or similar and ended up banging hell out of the girl at her request.It certainly isn't because I am a hardbody Adonis any girl would love to bang, so I suppose WGs sometimes get horny the same as anyone.The extra money helps too, no doubt.But I mean, I can tell the difference when a girl is getting naturally wet downstairs, and it doesn't happen because of the cash.

Gbaby

03-06-10, 03:42

Next time I think I will try the other place in BJ alley that waves me in. I think it is the one nearest the station on the right, just before Jan Jan. Has anyone tried any others. I reported on AM.PM in July but haven't seen other reports on anything other than Jan Jan...I don't think Jan-Jan can be surpassed at the same price level, but would like to try.Very nice report on Jan Jan. I have never been disspointed by Jan Jan I have been there several times. I did get waved in to the first store on right before Jan Jan. Very very bad service, ladies look in late 40's and they just do CBJ. So my recommendation stick with Jan Jan. Cheers

Gaijin Otoko

03-06-10, 16:21

I was psyched to say "Kono ie wa nama fera desu ka?" Which is my closest approximation to "is this a house with BBBJ" If someone can say it correctly, let us know how to inquire on this important topic. "ie" sounds strange, because it means "house." If you have to have this discussion, I would use the word "mise" (shop) instead of "ie" (house). But otherwise it's perfectly understandable. Of course the Japanese thing to do would be to know before you go. Because as the Japanese say, "iwanu ga hana," or "not saying is the flower."
I thought, holy shit she wants me to bareback her. So I reached up into my coat to grab a condom.She saw this and said "no, no"...then she made a gesture like eating pussy..so she was wanting to be eaten out. So, I did eat her out. I know that is stupid to do that to a Jan-Jan girl, but my drive knows no bounds. I can say that her pussy was fresh and I don't think that there was anything wrong with it. I've always been offered to eat out the girl at Jan Jan. Since this is a pink salon, their mouths see a lot more cock than their pussies do. Kissing was probably the most dangerous thing you did. Other folks, please take note; NO FUCKING AT JAN JAN. ORAL ONLY! If you try to force the issue, they will almost certainly kick you out, and then they will ban foreigners.
I pulled my finger out of her pussy and tried to push it into her ass dry. I got maybe up to the first knuckle. She didn't mind...so I pushed it again. I pulled my finger from her asshole and put it into her mouth to be lubed up. I got my middle finger all the way up her ass and started ramming like crazy. This was even more fun than the BJ. I finished in her mouth and she spat it out, then wiped me up..but kept going for my ass with the cloth. I don't know what she was trying. Giving me a hard time for having poked her asshole or something, it was hard to tell. She was giggling about it.This is interesting. I'm sure she was having fun with your interest in her asshole, but I'm surprised she didn't stop you. She is a naughty girl! Even in the sex industry, most J-Girls are really against receiving anything anal. Ironically, a lot of the girls that you pay for AF (which means anal fuck) will not let you get anywhere near their asshole. AF is just a cover for regular sex, as vaginal sex is the only activity specifically prohibited by law.
As we were walking out, I got to see "Lisa: in the light. She wasn't bad looking at all. If this had been a DH job in good lighting, I would have been pleased. The other girl escorting the other guy out was actually very good looking and had a nice body. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but in my experience, most of the girls working at Jan Jan are rather nice looking.
Someone commented on the price of Jan-Jan, asking is it 4k or 3k? This was my first night trip to BJ alley and every sign on that side of the station said 4k. I paid 4k. Last Sunday afternoon all the signs said 3K and I paid 3k. So sometime in the evening it must go up to 4k. I think I remember an old post that said 7 pm, but can't be sure. I remember that on my first trip I went before a certain time because I knew that the prices change in the evening.Based on this experience vs my cheaper daytime experiences, it seems that the extra 1k buys you a GFE session, a better looking girl, and you get escorted to the door by the girl. A higher level of service. Its a "time service" thing. They charge less during the day to get more customers in. If there is a difference in quality between the daytime and nighttime experience, it is probably mostly by coincidence. The daytime girls might be young housewives who are doing it to pick up spending money. The evening girls are likely OLs who have finished their office jobs, or perhaps college or vocational students who are looking to pay their way through. Also, this is a weird thing about the Japanese, it is a "shame" culture versus a "guilt" culture. What this means is that if one is not seen doing something bad, then one has not actually done something bad. It is much less likely that one will be seen at night.

Member #3439

03-06-10, 16:26

Hello fellow ISG'ers. Puta Playa back with another Tokyo report...here goes.Cut to the chase:Date: Mar-6-2010, 5:30 pmLocation: Toshima-ku Kita-Otsuka 2-6Hours: Week-11 to last, Weekend 10-lastPrice: 8000 yenGaijin Friendly: Most definitelyJapanese skills required: NoKanojo: China girl about 35 and cuteHow you get there: Go to Otsuka Station. Exit at the North Exit. Look around in front of you and see the Starbucks coffee shop. Walk across the street and stand in front of the Starbucks. Now you are on the right street and have a datum, but are on the wrong side of the street. Cross the street and get on the side nearest the station. Walk almost to the end of the block, looking to your left. You will see a blue sign that says Paradise, 3000. Beside it is a lavender/purple sign that says Hi Top 8000. This is the place. Look up,you see a white awning that says Paradise. Go up the stairs and knock on the 3F door. You are now there.PP's thoughts and summary of events:I am in the midst of executing the perfect J-mongers weekend, Pinsaro BBBJ, Esthe FS and finally dominatrix..last night I reported on a unique GFE BBBJ at Jan Jan in Sugamo. Today I was determined to follow leads that were posted for full service FS in Tokyo and try to pump some pussy, so at 1530 I was burning up the Sobu Rapid from Yokohama to Yamanote to check it out. I ended up on Otsuka having an excellent lay for 8k.This is the place that Jahatla mentioned here 988897. Thanks, J.The sign says Hi Top but you called it Otsukasaiko, so I don't know what it really is or what the phone number is...guess it doesn't matter since now ISG'ers can't get lost with the directions above.So I walked up to the door and it opened. I was greeted by Papa-san. He asked me something in Japanese and I said Nihongo sukoshi. He said hachi sen en, so I gave him 8k yen. He asked me if it was my first time there, and I said hai. That was the extent of the Japanese spoken. Mongers don't even need that, just walk in, smile like horny gajin, give papa 8k and follow him.I followed Papa back to a small waiting room where there was another monger waiting. There was a turtle crawling in a glass tank, and I watched the little guy for a while and smoked a cigarette. The wait was maybe 5 minutes. Papa came and lead me to a narrow hallway, the hallway has rooms down each side with white cloth curtains!and dim light. He pulled aside a curtain and a girl was inside. The girl stripped, I stripped, we put towels on, and she yelled shawaa something down the hall. Lockdown on the front door, I guess, whilst people are walking half naked through the place. I have seen that before in South America, but never understood why else the halls need to be cleared when people are passing from room to shower. Not for discretion, because mongers see each other in the waiting room. Who knows...Anyway, we got into the shower and she showered me. I scrubbed her cat really well, because I got the little crabbies the last time I was in Japan, banging kanojos in Osaka/Tobita Shinchi and, for a while, I wondered if I would be able to monger Japan again due to the paranoia about what might be lurking in those jungle girl wild pubes. Some of you might remember me b!tching about it. I guess old habits die hard, and it hasn't slowed me down. I know the water doesn't help much, but it makes me feel better. She squirted something from a shampoo bottle into a plastic cup and filled it with water, then wanted me to drink it or so I thought. I thought your fucking crazy, I'm not drinking that..but then she demonstrated the gargle and I did the same. It was that disinfectant stuff that the girls here like to use. Gritty, I don't know what it is. Chinese radioactive lead I suppose. I remembered girls in Osaka putting some kind of iodine or similiar on my dick before BBBJ, so didn't think much of it after that. Tough crowd in this sport.So we finished with shaawa and she yelled down the hall again. We went back the room, then I got prone and she started sucking my nips. I'm sucking on her ear. Then DFK, then BBBJ..[CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor BJ techniques in this country, with a few exceptions, but I eventually can come. Anyway, a couple of you fine gentlemen here had indicated that my 8k was going to buy me FS here so I held out. Sure enough, she pulled out a ho purse and had a condom. Honban time! J-condom are too thick and too small for me, kill my wood, so I pulled out some Trojans that I'd brought from Obama-land for such occasions. She seemed suprised, but used my condom. So I put her back down and started mish. I prefer mish unless I have a nice hearty white or latina with big tits for grabbing and the characteristic back tattoo target, in which case only doggystyle will suffice. I miss tattoos in Japan, and keep expecting some dolphin or butterfly back there to shoot at. Anyway, I stayed mish the whole time on this girl. I went for about 45 minutes straight, which suprised me because I was so tired and hungry on arrival that I feared that I couldn't perform in the first place.I ran down to the last 5 minutes of the 60 purchased, because I wear a watch rotated to the bottom of my wrist so that I can see it and keep track of my time now matter what position I am in. At that point, I rolled her up and I rolled down and indicated that she should suck for my gyunyu. She was not wanting to do that and made the HJ gesture with one hand while she grabbed a bottle of oil with the other hand. I said iie, and put my finger in her mouth...keeping her honest. So she went ahead and gave me a nice deep BJ until CIM. I had been working it up for the better part of an hour, so it was a respectable product. She spat it into a towl, hacked grossly like she was launching a loogie, and I said takusan desu ka? and laughed..she said hai. We both took a shower and then came back and she brought me tea, then we smoked cigarettes together. She helped me to get dressed and all the typical Japanese after-service. It wasn't like Osaka where the mamas are calling the countdown before the dinger goes off. I was never rushed and probably spent an hour and 20 minutes all together. On the way out, the Papa asked me in English "How was the service?" and I bowed and said very good with a smile.It was a positive experience. At 8k and GFE with FS and CIM, it can't be beat. It leaves me little motivation to go to the pink salons unless I am just in a hurry or saving money. I recommend that fellow ISG'ers check it out.-PP

Gregp

03-07-10, 15:14

hello, fellow punters, i was going to be in tokyo for only one night and was pleased to field some direction in this forum so i wanted to report back. i read here all the good things about am and all are true. i set things up in advance, and finalized details after i arrived and head a room number. all professional and very smooth. all questions anwered and details taken care of. i will defiuntely use again when in tokyo. i had read here 1 comment regarding shiori, there was supposed to be more posted latter but either i missed it or it never was. in any event i thought i would do a quuick review. shiori is a lovely lady, age indicated is i believe 35 but she freely admits is 40 which was fine by me (hit 60 and 40 is still my younger woman lol). she is still relatively new, part time and was vey shy & nervous at first. a glass of wine and some relaxed conversation set stage for a more pleasant experience. i had gone for 3 hours, i personally like unrushed, and many [CodeWord115] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord115) when possible. she is a bit smaller on top than photos make you think but still yummy. very sensual, and hot and fun time once we got going. all i can say is if you take the time to give her pleasure you will get much in return. af also avaiable and was great too. treat her well she's a gereat lady on many levels, she told me she has been treated poorly in past by some guys, maybe the age reality? have fun guys, off to beijing in a wee, have regular gf there so no reports.

Member #3439

03-07-10, 15:47

I am in the midst of executing the perfect J-mongers weekend, Pinsaro BBBJ, Esthe FS and finally dominatrix..last night I reported on a unique GFE BBBJ at Jan Jan in Sugamo. Today I was determined to follow leads that were posted for full service FS in Tokyo and try to pump some pussy, so at 1530 I was burning up the Sobu Rapid from Yokohama to Yamanote to check it out. I ended up on Otsuka having an excellent lay for 8k.Hello, all. I succesfully finished my Japanese fuzoku weekend trifecta. Today I sessioned with a young well-trained Japanese professional domina from a Shinjuku outcall club that I have used in the past. You can get any scene you want, keeping in mind this is a BDSM service and not a copulation service. I won't post the name because they have had 'morals' problems from the police in the past which almost shut them down. Senior members can pm me for info, if you have experience on this topic. They have some that speak from good to a little English, and they are all pretty. Mine today spoke some English, but not well. This was my first session with her, because the girl that I used to meet with had left the club and I was trying to find a replacement.Due to the language barrier, you need to be careful in the Japanese scene because you can get hurt, or at least taken advantage of. I was feeling frisky and adventurous after the last two nights of activities of being sucked and fucked, and coming in with a lot of confidence. During interview I made the unfortunate mistake of telling her that I was up for whatever entertained her, because I like the rush of the unknown. So she thought about it for maybe a whole 2 minutes, then stood up and cinched a rope around my throat and arms and gagged me. Okay. Then she beat my ass numb. Okay. But then she snuck a meat hook in my ass with a rope leash tied to it. The hook had me scared. I tried to safe out but she was not accepting it. Feigning that I am just playing. At this point I had been tied up so I could only crawl and then just barely. Now, there is a difference between play and the real thing and when there is a meat hook in your ass, a girl you just met pulling on it, and you can't get her to take it out, there is no more playing and you fear and just become....for example, she starts caning your balls, so you try to crawl to get away, but she pulls on the hook leash...so you have to pick betwen your balls and ass. At that point you realize you instinctively value your lower GI more than your balls, so perhaps it a learning experience. I spent the rest of the session doing whatever she wanted to keep her from pulling on that thing. She was apparently having fun because she lost track of time and her cell phone rang. It was the operator/dispatcher for the service. She said they told her that she was 30 minutes late for her next session meet-up, and where was she at? So then she was somewhat of a hurry to finish and the cell phone rang twice more and they were apparently scolding her or resetting her next appointment. I checked my watch as we left the love hotel in Kabukicho and saw that we had been in there for well over 2 hours, while I had only paid for a 70 minute session. So there is another one for the books...I hurt all over in places I never intended to, but chalk it up to experience.

Wolfy187

03-07-10, 18:07

Puta,Your weekend sounds like lots of fun. BDSM is not my thing but your description of it literally made me chuckle out loud. either way. good job and a good weekend by any measure.W

Zcorps

03-07-10, 21:27

Puta, hahaha, thanks for the report. I was thinking about doing some SM, but you've made it clear that I should probably stay away from it.

Friendly Gaijin

03-08-10, 03:40

Thanks for your great reports.Members interested in the topic of SM might want to note that there is a SM Taikai (SM week) up at the Kabukicho DX strip theater, home page dxk.jp from 11 to 20 march.They charge 8.000 for the whole day (6.000 for female visitors). For that you get to see mostly female players tied up, but there is also always a segment where guests can go on stage with a joo-sama.
Due to the language barrier, you need to be careful in the Japanese scene because you can get hurt, or at least taken advantage of.

Hanamizu

03-08-10, 04:51

I'm not into SM but the whole thing is based on trust. Her not allowing a safe out. I would have taught her a lesson as soon as it was possible.

Lion

03-08-10, 06:46

Due to the language barrier, you need to be careful in the Japanese scene because you can get hurt, or at least taken advantage of. She was apparently having fun because she lost track of time and her cell phone rang. we had been in there for well over 2 hours, while I had only paid for a 70 minute session. So there is another one for the books...I hurt all over in places I never intended to, but chalk it up to experience.Guess you really got your monies worth! I imagine the girls who do the S really do enjoy their "work" and probably get to work out any stress they have on the customers. Note the rates for receiving S is usually 20-30% more than for giving it.

Fried Luke

03-08-10, 12:02

Okay. But then she snuck a meat hook in my ass with a rope leash tied to it. The hook had me scared.Can you describe the hook? From the current description I'm imagining a rusty, sharp, large meat hook like the ones used it horror movies.Specifically, what's the risk of it puncturing your colon (which may be fatal)?
I hurt all over in places I never intended to, but chalk it up to experience.Was it a good hurt or a bad hurt?

Member #3439

03-08-10, 12:54

Guess you really got your monies worth! I imagine the girls who do the S really do enjoy their "work" and probably get to work out any stress they have on the customers. Note the rates for receiving S is usually 20-30% more than for giving it.Yes, these do enjoy the job. They travel to Europe about once a year and have exchanges with dominas there and so forth, think of it as a trade show for perverted sadistic women. So they are pros and not just OL?s with whips.
I'm not into SM but the whole thing is based on trust. Her not allowing a safe out. I would have taught her a lesson as soon as it was possible.Yes, it was not classy at all. I am looking up at her with probably a look of desparation and start shaking my head side to side, and she just said ?You have pain? Your ass has pain?? and started beating the hell out of me with a cane.
Puta, hahaha, thanks for the report. I was thinking about doing some SM, but you've made it clear that I should probably stay away from it.I wouldn?t forgo it based on this one report. My first session with this service back in July was the best experience I think I?ve ever had. The previous month I had taken this trip shown below, and I thought the single Ds session was more enriching than that whole trip. 896828 896834
Puta,Your weekend sounds like lots of fun. BDSM is not my thing but your description of it literally made me chuckle out loud. either way. good job and a good weekend by any measure.WThanks! It was a blast...and people say that Japan is conservative, no scene for gaijin?huh, what!!? I have great experiences in Japan, in Tokyo and Osaka, other than getting crabs and and having my ass strung from a meat hook, I enjoy it.

Sound7

03-09-10, 04:58

I am sure is more closer to IPV than most other Tokyo GFE. Do they have limits defined in the professional code of "no death & no blood."Good you are not dead. HaiIntimate Partner Violence (IPV)
Yes, these do enjoy the job. They travel to Europe about once a year and have exchanges with dominas there and so forth, think of it as a trade show for perverted sadistic women. So they are pros and not just OL?s with whips. Yes, it was not classy at all. I am looking up at her with probably a look of desparation and start shaking my head side to side, and she just said ?You have pain? Your ass has pain?? and started beating the hell out of me with a cane. I wouldn?t forgo it based on this one report. My first session with this service back in July was the best experience I think I?ve ever had. The previous month I had taken this trip shown below, and I thought the single Ds session was more enriching than that whole trip. 896828 896834Thanks! It was a blast...and people say that Japan is conservative, no scene for gaijin?huh, what!!? I have great experiences in Japan, in Tokyo and Osaka, other than getting crabs and and having my ass strung from a meat hook, I enjoy it.

Friendly Gaijin

03-10-10, 11:23

Weekly SPA! magazine has an article about Japanese P4P, with some interesting information this week.First they mention that Gaijin business is rather interesting for the establishments not refusing to take our money. For example, they quote the General Manager of the TS Music strip theater in Kabukicho as serving up to 50 chinese tourists a day, who arrive as part of a guided tour in big groups. That gives him a 120 percent increase in sales. And, as the article also notes, the number of Chinese tourists at Kabukicho is increasing lately.Another manager of a health store is quoted as very much wanting a piece of that pie as well. "Nodo kara te ga deru hodo", for those who understand Japanese. However, since the Chinese tourists understand neither the language nor how to behave in a health joint, grabbing some of that market only leads to trouble.Another manager of a delivery health named "black sapphire" in Kabuki-cho says that they have about 20 Gaijin costumers a month, increasing by word of mouth since they opened the shop to foreigners two years ago, giving them an additional 40 percent in sales.Those numbers don't really seem to add up in the last case, since that would mean they get less than a hundred costumers a month for the whole shop, but that's what the article says.Anyway, those shops that do take our business seem to see substantial increases in sales. Good for them.Another mildly interesting point: They mentioned a new shop called dead ball (www.deadball.biz), that has the concept of specializing in girls of the lowest level, for a cheap rate. They pride themselves in giving punters such a horrible experience that they will cure anyone from this money-consuming activity.

Coitus68

03-10-10, 14:49

I read here all the good things about AM and all are true. I set things up in advance, and finalized details after I arrived and head a room number. All professional and very smooth. All questions anwered and details taken care of. I will defiuntely use again when in Tokyo. I've used AM several times as well, and have been happy with both their services and the girls'. I posted here a while back about my threesome with Manami and Mako. I've also been happy with Kumi, Lisa, and Rina.I was there a few weeks back and decided to call them up again. Arranged a week in advance to see Ai, finally, and called the night before to reconfirm. Minutes after reconfirming, I get an email saying she's unavailable because she just went on the rag. Unfortunate, but time enough to arrange for Kumi again. It takes them all night to confirm it, but I get an email around 2am saying it was all set for the next day at my original scheduled time. I get woken up at 8am and told Kumi is on the rag now too. Goddamn it! I sigh and unenthusiastically inquire as to "newcomer" Kili's availability, and without hesitation am told she is unavailable until after I leave.Three strikes, they are out. Next time, I'll probably just stick with Manami.

Member #3439

03-10-10, 17:38

Another mildly interesting point: They mentioned a new shop called dead ball (www.deadball.biz), that has the concept of specializing in girls of the lowest level, for a cheap rate. They pride themselves in giving punters such a horrible experience that they will cure anyone from this money-consuming activity.Thanks for that interesting post, FG. A sex business with a sex-negative attitude, perversion Japanese style! :) Right up there with the Tokyo Eel Show, that elusive institution akin to the Tijuana Donkey Show. Anyway, my ass has recovered from the hook that I reported was inserted in it over the weekend and, although I still bear the marks on my side from caning, I felt this evening like continuing my pursuit of more Japanese girls. The mood struck me while I was sitting in a restaraunt near Yokohama Station, fresh off work and eating dinner. I struck off for Sugamo with my laptop and umbrella in hand, just like a J-salaryman..haha.So the purpose of my report is to say that I am right on board with the other guys who say that the better girls come to Jan Jan at night, probably because they are single OL's or students. I am going at night now and seeing the difference in a big way..well worth the extra 1k. Last weekend I was saying that the FS I reported in Otsuka was the best vanilla experience to have at reasonable prices, I have to reconsider now.Tonight I got a stunner. 10 pm. Cha-ching, score 1 for that nasty gaijin PP!! Of maybe 15 girls seeded in Japan so far, pink and FS. this was far and away the best looker. I walked into Jan-Jan, got my frequent shooter card punched (just kidding, noobs) , and proceeded to booth. In comes a 9, and I am being conservative. Tight body, probably about 27, beautiful face, legs, pedicured feet and FAKE TITS...I have never seen anything resembling real breasts in Japan, so when she walked up I was taken aback. Am I in Japan or California? So it doesn't end there..just like the other night I got the GFE big time, short of copulation. Right away I confirmed manually that those were fake tits. But for this girl I didn't bother trying to push her limits (like I did the girl in last Friday's report) because I just wanted to savor everything and not do anything to kill the mood. Awesome DFK and I went DATY on her three times because the pussy was so good. I wish I could stick her in my suitcase and take her back to the States. Holy shit and for real. We were horizontal 69 in the booth! :) After we got done she smiled and said arigatou. Wow, I was happy with the quality of product and service tonight. People on the Yamanote are looking at me weird like 'what the hell is that crazy gaijin smiling at' I kept a smile all the way back to Yoko station! On only my 5th girl of the trip, and less than half way though, Japan has already exceeded my expectations for mongering this time. Drastic departure from last year. After I leave here, I am thinking of an excursion to Pattaya burning FF miles, but at this point after the 2 great pink sessions, GFE FS, and hard dominatrix session, I'd say I could go home happy right now. But I won't..I'll keep mongering, investigating and reporting.-PP

Member #3439

03-10-10, 18:34

I've used AM several times as well, and have been happy with both their services and the girls'. I posted here a while back about my threesome with Manami and Mako. I've also been happy with Kumi, Lisa, and Rina.Three strikes, they are out. Next time, I'll probably just stick with Manami.Please confirm the prices. This sounds interesting,
Can you describe the hook? From the current description I'm imagining a rusty, sharp, large meat hook like the ones used it horror movies.Specifically, what's the risk of it puncturing your colon (which may be fatal)?Was it a good hurt or a bad hurt?Well, FL, let me first say that I am honored that my post prompted you to make your first. Welcome to the party. It's a great community of (usually) friendly and always helpful people.Secondly, I don't know how sharp it was but it felt weird and I wasn't sure at first what was going on, which is why I said that she snuck it in. It felt sharp. I supposed a well trained domina knows that this is a way to make a play submissive an actual submissive, because she didn't waste anytime in thinking of it or getting it in. Before the session I saw something on the table that looked like a big eye hook, and I figured that it something from her kit for suspension rope bondage from the ceiling, since she has rope skills. I was bound and gagged nose down in one of her high heels (which by the way are branded "Devious", appropriate). She got behind me and I never saw the hook, but knew immediately what it was when she put a rope through it. and tugged.Thirdly, please join ISG as a paying member and then I can tell you the name and contact info, then you can find out up close and personal what it is like to be part of a scene from a Japanese domina's version of 'Hostel'. This is a great forum, I've been able to experience things that most guys only dream of as a result of info provided here...(well, and by having a job with international travel and decent expense account..hard work doing all this sex) Anyway, please join and support Jackson in keeping the servers running. It's the gift that keeps on giving, :)

Mgz1234

03-10-10, 22:47

I walked into Jan-Jan, got my frequent shooter card punched (just kidding, noobs) , and proceeded to booth. In comes a 9, and I am being conservative. Tight body, probably about 27, beautiful face, legs, pedicured feet and FAKE TITS...I have never seen anything resembling real breasts in Japan, so when she walked up I was taken aback. Am I in Japan or California? So it doesn't end there..just like the other night I got the GFE big time, short of copulation. Right away I confirmed manually that those were fake tits. But for this girl I didn't bother trying to push her limits (like I did the girl in last Friday's report) because I just wanted to savor everything and not do anything to kill the mood. Awesome DFK and I went DATY on her three times because the pussy was so good. I wish I could stick her in my suitcase and take her back to the States. Holy shit and for real. We were horizontal 69 in the booth! :) After we got done she smiled and said arigatou. Wow, I was happy with the quality of product and service tonight. People on the Yamanote are looking at me weird like 'what the hell is that crazy gaijin smiling at' I kept a smile all the way back to Yoko station! On only my 5th girl of the trip, and less than half way though, Japan has already exceeded my expectations for mongering this time. Drastic departure from last year. After I leave here, I am thinking of an excursion to Pattaya burning FF miles, but at this point after the 2 great pink sessions, GFE FS, and hard dominatrix session, I'd say I could go home happy right now. But I won't..I'll keep mongering, investigating and reporting.-PPWhat was the girls name?Could you describe her?

Gaijin Otoko

03-11-10, 01:49

Three strikes, they are out. Next time, I'll probably just stick with Manami.Just to confirm, Manami is now independent, right? Didn't she leave AM and become "Tokyo Melty Kiss?"

Lion

03-11-10, 04:22

Weekly SPA! magazine has an article about Japanese P4P, with some interesting information this week.Another manager of a delivery health named "black sapphire" in Kabuki-cho says that they have about 20 Gaijin costumers a month, increasing by word of mouth since they opened the shop to foreigners two years ago, giving them an additional 40 percent in sales.Anyone willing to TOFTT? Here is the website http://www.b-sapphire.jp/index.aspPrices and girls look decent. My guess is you'll need at least a little Japanese though.

Nino

03-11-10, 15:10

Just to confirm, Manami is now independent, right? Didn't she leave AM and become "Tokyo Melty Kiss?"Yes, indeed.

Coitus68

03-11-10, 16:16

Just to confirm, Manami is now independent, right? Didn't she leave AM and become "Tokyo Melty Kiss?"Yes, she did. I've contacted her several times since her "betrayal" (AM's words) by going independent. Like she gives a shit what they think with all the appointments she still rakes in.

Coitus68

03-11-10, 16:18

Please confirm the prices. This sounds interestingPrices were what are listed on the AM page. As I posted before, Mako was a sweet girl, but (1) she was way way WAY too anorexic, and I was glad I went for a cosplay option and most of the boniness was hidden (2) Mako was not into girl-play. Manami is. Kumi is. One day I'll get the two of them together. Shwing!

Ronin7788

03-12-10, 04:18

Found this today on Craigslist:
Hi, I work at a SM club near Ueno-station.If you wanna have fun with me, pls call 03-5808-4338or go to "www.dressage.jp" if you could read Jap.will travel within Tokyo or with extra cherges for near Tokyo area.hotels, your place, anywhere...ask for Kumi (me)I can speak Eng. with no problem :)went to American School, lived in US...etcI work at SM club but you don't have to do SMstuff...normal things would be just fine too.make your dreams come true!And this is the website:http://www.dressage.jp/

Member #3439

03-12-10, 18:42

found this today on craigslist:and this is the website:http://www.dressage.jp/i used google translate on this and found that it offers a better range of services than i've ever seen. i hope to check this out. if some explorer gets to it before me, please post. due to the way that things are layed out ala carte, i have my doubts about this being a professional service vs hos trying to play the part. for a pro service with trained girls, i would expect to pay a fixed price that includes everything except copro and [CodeWord120] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord120), which requires them to do advance planning that justifies the seperate line item in the cost. i have recieved numerous questions and comments in pm on my experiences with fetish/ds in tokyo. so happy to be in the company of experienced hands who see see the uniqueness of tokyo in this regard and want to enjoy it. ..perv mongers, rejoice, we are blessed with the opportunities here. :) furthermore, if this service it what it seems, i may go bankrupt here.thank you for the tip, ronin.

Member #3439

03-13-10, 17:04

Found this today on Craigslist:And this is the website:http://www.dressage.jp/I contacted this place today. My nihongo sucks and I got mixed up talking to Papa-san, and thought there was no opportunity to session' however I did have some communications with Kumi today and think this place is worth a shot. You can get SUBMISSIVEs...do your hear me, you guys who were looking for that? Do google translate on the page and it says you can beat them and insert things and what have you, for not too bad of a price.Here is the communication that I had with Kumi. I requested info on pricing for a real hardcore domination session which i will not describe here. I also requested the price for and AF session including DFK, 69, AF and CIM finish. She quoted the pricing for 'my sickness' and for the GFE AF session. I think the price for the Ds session is fine but the pricing for the AF might be a little steep. Granted, this is supposed to be an SM fetish service so I understand higher pricing for AF, but seriously have my doubts about getting a safe and professional SM session from providers that also do AF. ...ho's with whips as I have said in the past. The only saving grace on the professionalism of the SM service is that I see they offer uretheral sounds, needles and so forth, and that is some hard stuff that they wouldn't be offering if they didn't have some real skilled providers, Or at least I hope they wouldn't have rookie hos sticking metal up guys dongs...let's say I am skeptical but willing to try them. Of course, not uretherals sounds because as you know I was more than a little scared when a Japanese girl stuck a meat hook in my rectum last weekend to make me her real submissive, so the idea of some girl sticking a piece of metal up my little brother is of course not my idea of a good time.Anyway, at some point I have to cut back my spending here and save something for a week in Thai or Cambodia at the end of this biz trip, but I think Kumi at dressage will be one of my additonal J-expenditures. If for no other reason than she seems like a nice girl, which is the opposite of what I want her to be.woah, how much sense does that make? I can't figure out my own mind...haha. :)Here is the the transcipt, she seems like the real deal provider: Someone that you could form an arrangement with on the side, at a better price without the house cut included. ------------------------------------------------------------hi, thanks for calling. I asked him and he said he told you that I was here but I think both of you and him got mixedup...This is NOT my e-mail add (club's add ) and AM HERE AT WORK, so it is worse if I don't get any job calls.. my pic is on the webpage but the person whos making the site really sucks and theres only one pic you can see from PCif you google on your cellphone, you can see 4 pics the course you want is not S but M course M...(the things you wanna do fits this,)50min 13,000+3,00=16,000each+20min will be +7,000 If you want to do AF things to me, the course will be different price and will be AF course60min 20,000yen (only 1 cum in Anal)90min 30,000yen (limitless anal fucking) Is you want to do all the things in 1 session, it'll be60min 20,000yen (Anal fuck is option of 5,000 per cum)90min 30,000yen (Anal fuck is option of 5,000 per cum)120min 40,000yen (1cum free anal fuck)5hr, 80,000yen (limitless anal fucking) thanks for your interest,Kumi

Member #3439

03-13-10, 17:48

Last week I reported on Hi-Top in Otsuka and had a glowing review of GFE FS. I decided to vet this place today by trying it again and seeing how consistent the service is. Again, I got another Chinese girl probably about 30 years old. She was suprised to see a gaijin when the manager lead me to the cabin and got really silly acting about it at first and pointed at me and said something about shiroi and I thought maybe I was about to get refused. But then she told him okay and he lefts us. I guess she doesn't normally do interracial sex and he didn't tell her in advance while I was in the waiting room. Or I'm the only white devil going to the place..anyway, I thought, this session is going to suck..but it turned out okay..just okay.The girl spoke a little English, says she is from mainland China and arrived here 10 years ago, She told me that she is crazy and I will vouch that she is more than a little eccentric but has a good attitude. Told me that I am shiroi white man and I told her yes, I was born that way. Told me that I had a big 'cook' (cock) and that everything in America is big like Obama's big ears and nose..and then made dumbo ears with her hands. She started BBBJ and went straight to FS within a minute. I fucked her for the better part of the hour and was then in the mood for a BBBJWCIM finish, but she wasn't having it..the last girl at this place DID do this...so she oiled me up and started trying a HJ finish. I can't finish this way, so I reached for my jacket to pull out a Trojan and try to get off in her pussy. She saw the condom and asked me if it was made in America and I said yes, then she pointed at her pussy and said "Made in China"..that was funny.So anyway, I fucked her for maybe another 10 minutes and I just cant cum from anything other than BBBJ or bareback fuck. So I faked it because I had a huge load saved up and was not going to waste such a bullet in a latex bag. Yes, guys we can fake it too! I faked it because I didn't want to offend her.So I left that place and, where do you think I went to get rid of that load? ..hmmm..Jan-Jan, yes that's right. I was given a tight body J-girl about 30 yrs old with real tits, like a US B-cup. Nicest real tits I've seen in Japan. We did horizontal 69 in the booth and I ate her pussy and even rimmed her. At one point I had my tongue 1/3rd deep inside her asshole. PP is a nasty boy...We went for quite a while, then she said we were running out of time, so I got vertical and let it go. She went way down and milked it all out. I was happy with that session.So the summary is, Hi Top in Otsuka is hit or miss for GFE, but I have vetted this place and it is definitely full service and always gaijin friendly. The girls have nice bodies and tolerable faces. Good place for a value shag at 8000 yen, in any case.

Carberry

03-13-10, 21:16

Good God, man, where do you get the energy?

Lyraus

03-14-10, 10:35

Tic Fleet

03-14-10, 15:37

Just got back from JanJan, the "blowjob" alley is relatively easy to find. From a previous poster, if you see pachino slots (north side) your on the wrong side. The alley is located to the south of Sugamo station, there is a "taxi" circle, and its the first street east of the "main" street. Google maps this: "35.732754, 139.740208" (leave out the quotes) for the map.Once you are in the alley you can see JanJan in kanakata characters (http://www.stockkanji.com/Jan_jan_jan). Its in the basement B1. I'm asian but I dont speak any Japanese and I was waved in. I could probably get into the other ones, but the reports from this forum had me wanting JanJan. Paid the 4000 yen. First chick (i'm guessing mid 30s-40) had terrible technique, I was losing my wood and desperately trying to think of sexy thoughts to maintain it. Paid for another round with another chick, decent breasts and was very wet before she started sucking. Much better technique and I got out in about 15 minutes. Overall was decent if I got the 2nd chick the first time :(

Member #3439

03-14-10, 18:51

I've been reading a lot about Jan Jan, and it sounds like a great little place, but one thing I am concerned about is the BBBJ deal. Just not for me and I prefer to be on the safe side. Is it optional to use a condom? For example do they have them there or are you allowed to bring your own and ask to wear it during the experience?Of course it's easy enough to avoid DFK and eating a girl out if you are not into that, but I'm more afraid of catching an STD from their mouths. Am I just being paranoid or what?No, I don't think you are being paranoid. These girls suck more dick in a week than a typical girl sucks in her lifetime. If at any time you don't feel safe, go to your safe place. Just because Puta Playa and others go bareback and eat the girls pussies and asses doesn't mean it's safe. I may be on here in a few days posting about STD, who knows....at the moment I am not prepared to tell you that my dick feels right..but I also spent this afternoon at an onsen so I don't know. It feels weird. Besides, I've been giving BFE to girls over at Otsuka and anything could happen at either place. Beware though, that fiends like me might have had the girl right before you and that's what you are sticking into. Assume she was sucking my dick just before you got there. I plan to hit the place in the next few days, so it's probably true. :) Sorry...
Just got back from JanJan, the "blowjob" alley is relatively easy to find. From a previous poster, if you see pachino slots (north side) your on the wrong side. The alley is located to the south of Sugamo station, there is a "taxi" circle, and its the first street east of the "main" street. Google maps this: "35.732754, 139.740208" (leave out the quotes) for the map.Once you are in the alley you can see JanJan in kanakata characters (http://www.stockkanji.com/Jan_jan_jan). Its in the basement B1. I'm asian but I dont speak any Japanese and I was waved in. I could probably get into the other ones, but the reports from this forum had me wanting JanJan. Paid the 4000 yen. First chick (i'm guessing mid 30s-40) had terrible technique, I was losing my wood and desperately trying to think of sexy thoughts to maintain it. Paid for another round with another chick, decent breasts and was very wet before she started sucking. Much better technique and I got out in about 15 minutes. Overall was decent if I got the 2nd chick the first time :(Hello, your post is informative for Tokyo mongers. Nice job. I have gotten some bad ones at J-J in the past. But lately it has been great. Shit happens anywhere, but this is typically a good place. Since you are Asian, I don't think it's out of bounds to stand up and request a different girl. As a white guy, I wouldn't do it for fear of ruining the place for white gaijin, but I think you would have been okay for you as an asian to complain if you weren't happy with the girl. You paid the money with the expectation of getting off. No need to pay double as an Asian, IMO.

Captain Yonoi

03-15-10, 02:13

Herpes

03-15-10, 14:48

Went last Friday around noon again (see previous reports)Upstairs O-TAKARA was full.So they told me to go to the sister shop downstairs which was empty. I found it a bit strange. They charged me 6, 000 for 2 girls. (instead of 7, 000 upstairs.)Same design than upstairs. 4 sofas behind each other, dark inside with disco lights and loud J-POP music.1st girl name was ASAMI. She was huge, XXL size, but face was not so bad looking. She was super kind. I asked to wear a condom, and she was surprised, she told me she didn't know how to put it on! WTF! I had to do it myself, but she cared of the rest. What was nice, is that she had really HUGE TITS, never seen something like this for a J-girl. That turned me on, and her tits were quite hot too. Very comfortable. I enjoyed the time, and when the alarm started to ring, I put off the condom and finished CIM.Looks: 1/10, BJ: not really good, TITS: big is beautiful 10/10.Satisfaction 6/10. This is to BJ what Mcdonalds is to burgers.OMG I hate the music. And I didn't feel starting round #2 with another (fat?) girl. So I just went away, feeling relieve anyway.BTW I found the internet site of both shops, finallyDownstairs is called DIO, and upstairs O-TAKARA EMOTION.Address is higashi gotanda 1-16-2, near exit of Asakusa Line. Go into Ichibancho street. 2nd right. Scouts are welcoming outside with an earphone.http://www.Emotion.vc/framepage5.htmlhttp://www.Dio.bz/All in allAn alternative south of Tokyo to Jan-Jan which I have not tried. I guess its similar in price and service.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Tic Fleet

03-15-10, 16:15

Just got back from Hi-Top in Otsuka. Puta Playa's directions were great, had no trouble finding the place, but heck a lot of people are walking in that street at night kinda felt shameful entering and leaving that place.Anyways the google maps coordinates are "35. 732763, 139. 727816". Search in google without those quotes.Its on the 3rd floor and before I even attempted to push the door open, the door opened and I was greeted by Papa-san. He led me to the waiting area. He asks for 8000 yen, I gave him a 10000 yen note and he gives me back the correct change. No Japanese required. After waiting for about 5 minutes, I was shown to the bed. The girl next door was probably having a good time with her moaning. I got a Korean woman, I'm guessing mid 30s. She says she has been in Tokyo for 4 years on a work visa. I didn't ask what she really did haha. She had petite tits probably size be and pretty petite in nature. Very cute and I got the GFE. She shows me to the shower and we get busy. She starts taking care of the boys downstairs and didn't really do a BBBJ, which is fine with me. She brings a condom and starts fucking me on top. I was exhauted from work and she really worked hard but I couldn't cum with that thick condom. She starts to get a little rough and kinda sat on my balls but I didn't feel it at the time. She apologizes and says if I'm right, which I was at the time. After trying several positions and 50 minutes later I tried my best to make it and finally did. She is totally exhausted and said I had quite the stamina. She brings a fan and starts cooling me off. And thens when I noticed the pain in my balls. It was like if someone kicked me! I struggled to walk towards the shower and throughout the night on the train. Man that part sucked. I went back to the office to pick up the umbrellla and off I went home to report on this LOLOverall, you should probably bring your own condom and use it. You can't really feel anything with theirs. The service is quite good, as she was quite kind/nice minus the ball bashing.

Backtobasics

03-15-10, 22:31

I was there too today, but in the afternoon. Seems to be very popular now, as all the girls were hard at it when I arrived, and I had to wait 20 mins. Definitely take your own condom.My gal started off the same way > sat on me with all the grace of a sumo wrestler, but I quickly lifted her off and explained that I wanted to take it s l o w l y. Rather fun, but I think you do need to be 'in the mood' before you get there, as it isn't exactly 'romantic'. She did the most horrible hacking/spitting into a cup whenever she did a BBBJ. Grotesque!Finished with 15 mins still on the clock, and she gave me a not-awful massage. They do seem determined to send everyone away with a smile on their face.
Just got back from Hi-Top in Otsuka. Puta Playa's directions were great, had no trouble finding the place, but heck a lot of people are walking in that street at night kinda felt shameful entering and leaving that place.Anyways the google maps coordinates are "35. 732763, 139. 727816". Search in google without those quotes.Its on the 3rd floor and before I even attempted to push the door open, the door opened and I was greeted by Papa-san. He led me to the waiting area. He asks for 8000 yen, I gave him a 10000 yen note and he gives me back the correct change. No Japanese required. After waiting for about 5 minutes, I was shown to the bed. The girl next door was probably having a good time with her moaning. I got a Korean woman, I'm guessing mid 30s. She says she has been in Tokyo for 4 years on a work visa. I didn't ask what she really did haha. She had petite tits probably size be and pretty petite in nature. Very cute and I got the GFE. She shows me to the shower and we get busy. She starts taking care of the boys downstairs and didn't really do a BBBJ, which is fine with me. She brings a condom and starts fucking me on top. I was exhauted from work and she really worked hard but I couldn't cum with that thick condom. She starts to get a little rough and kinda sat on my balls but I didn't feel it at the time. She apologizes and says if I'm right, which I was at the time. After trying several positions and 50 minutes later I tried my best to make it and finally did. She is totally exhausted and said I had quite the stamina. She brings a fan and starts cooling me off. And thens when I noticed the pain in my balls. It was like if someone kicked me! I struggled to walk towards the shower and throughout the night on the train. Man that part sucked. I went back to the office to pick up the umbrellla and off I went home to report on this LOLOverall, you should probably bring your own condom and use it. You can't really feel anything with theirs. The service is quite good, as she was quite kind/nice minus the ball bashing.

Backtobasics

03-15-10, 22:37

I guess by definition all Carnivals move along at some point, and the one in Nishi-Nippori seems to have done so. I followed these (very good) directions to the letter (see link below), but #501 was dead as a dodo. Even the electric meter was not turning, so nothing was going on in that apartment at all.If anyone knows their new location, could you let me know? Or if there is a mistake (but I doubt it) in the directions in this post, could you also let me know?http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=961136&highlight=carnival#post961136Thanks ...Luckily Hi-Top wasn't far away, so the afternoon ended well after all.

Gaijin Otoko

03-16-10, 03:46

I guess by definition all Carnivals move along at some point, and the one in Nishi-Nippori seems to have done so. If anyone knows their new location, could you let me know? Or if there is a mistake (but I doubt it) in the directions in this post, could you also let me know?http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=961136&highlight=carnival#post961136Thanks ...Luckily Hi-Top wasn't far away, so the afternoon ended well after all.Weird. I haven't been there, but I'm signed up for their e-mail newsletter, and they still send me messages every day telling me who the new girls are, what specials they are having, and who is working that day.

Backtobasics

03-16-10, 04:17

Weird. I haven't been there, but I'm signed up for their e-mail newsletter, and they still send me messages every day telling me who the new girls are, what specials they are having, and who is working that day.I think maybe they just changed their location?

Herpes

03-16-10, 04:30

I think maybe they just changed their location?Carnival and Otsuka Hi-Top have the same web design. I am 100% sure some (if not all?) of the girls on otsuka Hi-top website come from carnival. The 2 places must be affiliated.Backtobasics: you should have tried the phone on the webpage of carnival though. It would have been worth checking. You could also have tried the korean este-feel which I reported about which is just 2mns from there as well.I'm curious to know if carnival still running. But I think I'll go to otsuka soon. Seems a good bet.

Member #3439

03-16-10, 15:34

Just got back from Hi-Top in Otsuka. Puta Playa's directions were great, had no trouble finding the place, but heck a lot of people are walking in that street at night kinda felt shameful entering and leaving that place......Overall, you should probably bring your own condom and use it. You can't really feel anything with theirs. The service is quite good, as she was quite kind/nice minus the ball bashing.I think this goes for anywhere in Japan, bring your favorite condoms before you go. The condoms at the shacks are too thick. Does anyone know of a Japanese brand that is nice and thin?Thanks to B2B and TF for your entertaining reviews of Hi-Top, ball bashing, hacking spitting..full experience down and dirty. Perhaps if you big dick gaijin haven't bored and reamed the pussy there to the point of uselessness, I'll return there this weekend and come back with another verbose report.

Irony Monger

03-16-10, 15:47

I think this goes for anywhere in Japan, bring your favorite condoms before you go. The condoms at the shacks are too thick. Does anyone know of a Japanese brand that is nice and thin?I forget the brand, but I know you can get condoms of all sizes, thickness, and yes even flavors at Condomania in Harajuku.

Smith Ed

03-17-10, 01:51

I was at Otakara a few weeks ago but too busy to post the report. Best shirt on advanture of my life yet. Walked in 5PM afternoon and the place was bit dead. A hard time to find it but thank god I have my iphone. The tout at the front desk waved me in and I pretend I am a regular. He told me all the services and I decided just got one girl for 3k yen. Walked up the stairs and greeted by the tenchou, he looks like a yakuza, with snake leather pants, gold heirs. I think myself, if anything went bad, I can take HIM out since he is short and skinny. After some converstasion, he convience me to take the three girl service for 9k yen. I have couple hours to kill to what the hell. Walked in the room with all the expected, four or five sofa and 3 customers already getting serviced. Waited about 2 mins, first girls come up to me, greeting with GFE and taking off my jacket and pants. She insisted to take all my pants and underwares and put them in a basket. We chated a bit and she feel me up and I started to feel her up. Lots of foreplay and getting down to business. Regular GGGJ but quite nice. Better than grimpeur I would say. Half way there, I was admiring her huge tattoo on her waist, can't see the details since it was really dark inside. She was done, thanked me for everything, chatted some more. BTW, my japanese is conversation level. After that, waited about 10 miins for the second one to come in. She was a bit fat, with the towel around her body, she like a muffin top. She tried to FDK, but I am not really like her face, so I just can't let her togue go in mine. My dick is still sore from the first girl. So I really tried to use positive thnking and went to my favorite place. Finally get blow. I am more tired than her. Waited for another 5 mins or so. Third girl finally came. Meanwhile, I didn't have my phone on, and didn't find any entertainment during the waiting. Jsut listen to other couple's pre-service chat. The last girl was quite cute, her voice sounds like the ones you would hear from those kyabakura bars, always using polite verbs and amazed by everything I said. When I told her I am not japanese but look like one, only being working in tokyo for a year, things like that would put her keeps saying wonderful things. Great listener I would say. Soft skin, great lips, only a-cup size but really wet puss. I was fingering her while she was servicing me the whole time. At some point, she jumped on my lap and started with a little humping without putting it in. I don't think it was allowed and the tenchuo was busy outside. So I guess I turned on her funny bone. After couple minutes, the clock ticked off, so she tried really hard for me to cum. And so she did. Help me dressed and walked me out. Then greet by tenchuo again and I told him it was excellent. Checked my iphone and I stayed there over 2 hours. Three loans in 2 hours is the best record for me now. Haha. Don't think I would go there again since my office is not that far but need to change JR line. Would try otsuka later this month. However, I am going to a business meeting at end of this month to beijing, any one want to help me out over there? Some hints or mongo together?
Went last Friday around noon again (see previous reports)Upstairs O-TAKARA was full.So they told me to go to the sister shop downstairs which was empty. I found it a bit strange. They charged me 6, 000 for 2 girls. (instead of 7, 000 upstairs.)Same design than upstairs. 4 sofas behind each other, dark inside with disco lights and loud J-POP music.1st girl name was ASAMI. She was huge, XXL size, but face was not so bad looking. She was super kind. I asked to wear a condom, and she was surprised, she told me she didn't know how to put it on! WTF! I had to do it myself, but she cared of the rest. What was nice, is that she had really HUGE TITS, never seen something like this for a J-girl. That turned me on, and her tits were quite hot too. Very comfortable. I enjoyed the time, and when the alarm started to ring, I put off the condom and finished CIM.Looks: 1/10, BJ: not really good, TITS: big is beautiful 10/10.Satisfaction 6/10. This is to BJ what Mcdonalds is to burgers.OMG I hate the music. And I didn't feel starting round #2 with another (fat?) girl. So I just went away, feeling relieve anyway.BTW I found the internet site of both shops, finallyDownstairs is called DIO, and upstairs O-TAKARA EMOTION.Address is higashi gotanda 1-16-2, near exit of Asakusa Line. Go into Ichibancho street. 2nd right. Scouts are welcoming outside with an earphone.http://www.Emotion. Vc/framepage5.htmlhttp://www.Dio. Bz/All in allAn alternative south of Tokyo to Jan-Jan which I have not tried. I guess its similar in price and service.[size=-2]EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.Internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Herpes

03-19-10, 17:53

Went to Otsuka today after reading the previous reports.Found Hi-top rather easily, but newbies beware. Actually there are plenty of other sex business in the area, one being just next to the starbucks (called Hi-Hi).Looking from outside, the pricing of the other shops seem similar and the service should be expected to be the same than at Hi-topDespite being Friday 8pm, not so busy, ididnt wait long. Chinese girl. MIZA. Could not choose at the entrance. 8000 yens 1 hour. Wanted the 3p course but not available tencho said. Not pretty face, small tits, but rather young and slim. Very serviceable and friendly. Technique so/so. I speak Chinese a bit so it helped set a good mood.She took a lot of pleasure in the session, and I made her shout loud, and come hard and quickly. Very good. But I was tired today and a bit in a hurry today, so I decided to come after she came. Tried CIM but she didn't allow for that.Good point: I like to hear the other girls in the other boxes coming too. From what I could hear it seemed to be GFE and good service as well over thereBad point: the shower is far. I think the place is a bit dirty too. They put only small towels on the bed. They should put bigger towels for safety (or put more of the small ones). Be careful, as you always should.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Backtobasics

03-20-10, 01:42

Bad point: the shower is far. I think the place is a bit dirty too. They put only small towels on the bed. They should put bigger towels for safety (or put more of the small ones). Be careful, as you always should.Compared to Yuri, the shower is the paragon of cleanliness! I didn't enjoy having mouthwash poured over my dick though ...

Member #3439

03-20-10, 21:08

went to otsuka today after reading the previous reports.found hi-top rather easily, but newbies beware. actually there are plenty of other sex business in the area, one being just next to the starbucks (called hi-hi).looking from outside, the pricing of the other shops seem similar and the service should be expected to be the same than at hi-topdespite being friday 8pm, not so busy, ididnt wait long. chinese girl. miza. could not choose at the entrance. 8000 yens 1 hour. wanted the 3p course but not available tencho said. not pretty face, small tits, but rather young and slim. very serviceable and friendly. technique so/so. i speak chinese a bit so it helped set a good mood.she took a lot of pleasure in the session, and i made her shout loud, and come hard and quickly. very good. but i was tired today and a bit in a hurry today, so i decided to come after she came. tried cim but she didn't allow for that.good point: i like to hear the other girls in the other boxes coming too. from what i could hear it seemed to be gfe and good service as well over therebad point: the shower is far. i think the place is a bit dirty too. they put only small towels on the bed. they should put bigger towels for safety (or put more of the small ones). be careful, as you always should. editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.thanks for the nice report. yeah, regarding the shower, check out that fishing pole that is sitting there to your left just before you get to the shower. very classy.this place is not sanitary by any stretch of the imagination, just so people know. i'd rate it a 4/10 on sanitation. if it worries someone, that person should take a sheet with you in a backpack, they won't care. if you aren't asian, they think you're weird anyway so wouldn't be suprised.i hate to break it to you, but both of the girls that i have sessioned there were squealing and chirping in chinese like crazy even when i was just doing slow mish...good actresses. i looked back at their toes to see if they were for real. those toes were not curled; therefore, i don't believe them. if i could have gagged her with a sock or sheet or something, i would have to stop all the unneccessary commotion. in comparison, the japanese girls are so much nicer about keeping it real, just little whimpers unless they are actually coming. very kawaii little whimpers, i love it. :)at one point, the last girl was yelling something to a girl that was in an adjacent cabin and the other girl laughed. i think she was probably saying that i had been fucking her for too long. i try to work them the whole session. as i reported last time, i didn't get a cim finish here either and hopped jr to sugamo to finish the job at jan^2.your experience is the same as mine for the most part. both times, at the ends of my sessions, some other monger came into the adjacent cabin and i started hearing the same dramatic moaning, chirping, squealing, with intermittent chinese. the j-mongers really tear them up, as i hear these guys' balls slapping on asses at high speed. i assume it wasn't isg gaijin, as isg gaijin would typically slowly savor the idea of any fs in tokyo at this price, except in those rare occasions like you mentioned here.

Ronin7788

03-21-10, 05:52

Hi,Does anyone know this korean place:http://www.d-suiren.com/They get a lot of good reviews on http://www.kan-deli.net/index.htmlAre they okay with non japanese customers?

Rbaajl

03-22-10, 23:47

Hi guys,Will be in Tokyo from 24th. 27th of Jan. Staying at the ANA in Akasaka.Are there any good places to pick up P4P Filipina girls in Roppongi.Rbaajl

Jackazzzz

03-23-10, 10:06

I followed the instructions below and was pleasantly surprised with the results. The town itself is small and a bit decrepit, but in an appealing way (many things are original from the 60's, so they're shabby but cool). It's true that the Route Inn is conveniently located and cheap. The cheap rooms don't seem to be available through their web site, only through Jalan. I too had no trouble with the camera in the Annex (although the room was really really small).I saw a writeup saying there are 200 snacks. I didn't believe that until I got there, but I think it's true. There are probably 3-5 girls per place, and the system is that you stick your head in the door and ask to 'see faces', at which point all the girls will jump up and run over to say Hi. I think everyone, except possibly the owners, is Korean. The language spoken between workers on the street is frequently Korean, and all the girls (and mamas) I saw were Korean.I stuck my head into a few places before finding one with OK options; it's a little hard to browse in a leisurely way since they're pretty desperate for business and want you to come in, choose a girl, and start paying asap. But I found something workable, had a few drinks, and worked it. Specifically negotiated that two pops was OK; told that this was a special service only for my first time. In the end, the first time lasted long enough that the girl insisted a second was impossible, and I couldn't have anyway. Yes, Y25k+about Y5k bar fees. Oh, and the all-you-can-drink is for 2 hours, not the 60-90 mins quoted on the signs (again, maybe because it was cold and quiet in February!), but that's for that 'Triangle' shochu which I think is $5 a bottle in stores, not beer or anything else. Still not expensive.Be aware that there may be trouble taking a girl back with you; mine insisted on going to the neighboring love hotel and had to go back and 'check with mama' to get approval to walk the extra block to my hotel.Some good restaurants too. Look for the two on the main street (behind the fancy sign) with sake bottles and old-looking fronts.
Kamiyamada OnsenRevisiting the topic for the benefit of Tokyo denizens, I visited Kamiyamada Onsen (Togura Station, a 16-minute ride on the Shinano Line about four stops from Ueda Station after coming on the Shinkansen from Tokyo), to check out the scene. I found it comparable money-wise.. And even better in terms of quality and variety of providers on offer that you can check out in person (instead of a photoshopped website or photos you might be shown before entering a shop) as well as in terms of the monetary outlay and duration of p4p. Without giving away too many of my secrets, I am sure the majime/persevering types in Japan can easily fill in the blanks to secure any needed info.Do the math: Despite some posters still-glowing reports about AM and its offshoot girls-gone-independent, and similar agencies at which you may or may not get FS (and if you do, you often have to pay extra).. You have to admit they reflect varying at best, and disappointing at worst, experiences (*at the very least, * 35, 000 yen plus hotel); the variable or high rejection rates at other, desirable service providers (or at least the ones you know you'd like to try but feel you never would be allowed to as a gaijin); down to the generally positive KDH to be had for slightly less money; and the even less expensive Chinese esthes.Set all that aside. I submit to you the following: 5, 000-6, 000 yen from a discount ticket shop for a reserved seat each way on the Shinkansen from Tokyo or Omiya to Ueda (60-75 minute ride), plus 330 yen each way from Ueda to Togura on the local train (15-16 more minutes). Advance Internet reservations can secure a 5, 000 per night room including breakfast at a clean, large national business hotel chain located **RIGHT ON THE CUSP** (er, it starts right on the next block) of the Kamiyamada Onsen "entertainment district. " Cursory 3, 000 fee to enter one of at least a couple hundred drinking establishments for 60-90 minutes nomihodai, plus 1, 000-2, 000 per drink that you should be a polite, non-pennypinching guy to buy for the lady who interests you (and her bar Mama, if necessary).. At this time you get lubricated (alcoholically, if you like, or stick to soft drinks if you must, though the la). You can either keep drinking, or get down to p4p business. Fees for recreational activities that follow.. As well as the general description and characterizatiion of the district and the ladies therein.. Are correct, as were given by the Jitsuwa Knuckles article posted earlier in relation to this topic.Further tips: Stay at that hotel mentioned above, particularly its annex building, which has the cheaper room rates and is separate from the main building where the front desk is located. Despite a security camera at its entrance and an advisory in the hotel info packet in the room's desk drawer requesting guests to meet any visitors in the lobby, no issues were encountered for a single-room traveler wishing to bring a visitor to the room. If you stay at one of the town's numerous ryokan, or, and here I am guesssing, maybe even other business hotels, you likely won't be able to bring back visitors, who in their quest for business won't even try to go to a ryokan and will likely try to steer you instead to the district's only LH within walking distance (not sure about any others within driving distance), which a cursory stroll revealed to be a bit run-down (sort of like a small motel of the Motel 6 variety and also costing 4, 500-5, 000 yen for a stay) and completely unlike the spacious, clean, modern and spoilt-for-choice LHs we have in Tokyo). Saturday night seemed to be more lively.. Snacks open from about 8 pm Until 2 am.. While Sunday some shut down at midnight. Don't know about other days of the week. Good food there in the district (and especially elsewhere in town from regular restaurants earlier in the day and evening). Overall, rather fetching options to be had.

Nampa Guy

03-23-10, 16:28

the j-mongers really tear them up, as i hear these guys' balls slapping on asses at high speed. i assume it wasn't isg gaijin, as isg gaijin would typically slowly savor the idea of any fs in tokyo at this price, except in those rare occasions like you mentioned here.if you have time in your busy schedule to watch some japanese av ;0 you will see that most of the guys finish by going to incredible speed fucking with the girls breasts flying in all directions and then pull out to gansha (cum on face)this is also the same copied technique you will see applied to your gf when you go to a happening bar. lol, gotta love japannampa guy

Pshred

03-23-10, 17:24

Hi,Does anyone know this korean place:http://www.d-suiren.com/They get a lot of good reviews on http://www.kan-deli.net/index.htmlAre they okay with non japanese customers?I'd like to know this too.

Pshred

03-23-10, 17:33

Hi,Does anyone know this korean place:http://www.d-suiren.com/They get a lot of good reviews on http://www.kan-deli.net/index.htmlAre they okay with non japanese customers?I would like to know this as well.

AussieGaigin

03-23-10, 22:00

Hi guys,Will be in Tokyo from 24th. 27th of Jan. Staying at the ANA in Akasaka.Are there any good places to pick up P4P Filipina girls in Roppongi.RbaajlWhy waste time looking for Filipinas in Tokyo? There is so much local talent to try, you might enjoy a change of menu.

Ronin7788

03-24-10, 06:03

I would like to know this as well.Called them today. They accept only Gaijins from other asian countries, not americans or europeans.

Fried Luke

03-24-10, 06:27

Well, FL, let me first say that I am honored that my post prompted you to make your first. Welcome to the party. It's a great community of (usually) friendly and always helpful people.I've been reading here for a while and I definitely see a strong sense of community on this forum. Especially in how to behave in Japan so the rest of the forum members don't suffer in Japan due to others reinforcing xenophobia.
Secondly, I don't know how sharp it was but it felt weird and I wasn't sure at first what was going on, which is why I said that she snuck it in. It felt sharp. I supposed a well trained domina knows that this is a way to make a play submissive an actual submissive, because she didn't waste anytime in thinking of it or getting it in. Before the session I saw something on the table that looked like a big eye hook, and I figured that it something from her kit for suspension rope bondage from the ceiling, since she has rope skills. I was bound and gagged nose down in one of her high heels (which by the way are branded "Devious", appropriate). She got behind me and I never saw the hook, but knew immediately what it was when she put a rope through it. and tugged.I ask because it reminded me of the man from Enumclaw that was having consensual sex with a horse and the man died from a perforated colon. That story made me realize just how easy it is to die from a rectal injury of somesort.
Thirdly, please join ISG as a paying member and then I can tell you the name and contact info, then you can find out up close and personal what it is like to be part of a scene from a Japanese domina's version of 'Hostel'. This is a great forum, I've been able to experience things that most guys only dream of as a result of info provided here...(well, and by having a job with international travel and decent expense account..hard work doing all this sex) Anyway, please join and support Jackson in keeping the servers running. It's the gift that keeps on giving, :)I'm not actually "into" SM. I find the ideas behind it fascinating, but have no wish to participate.

Ronin7788

03-24-10, 06:33

I called another korean place in Uguisudani. Shop name is "Pure".http://www.k-pure.com/They asked me how tall I am and when I said 180 cm they said okay.But you must speak at least some japanese!I want to try them out this friday. But did anyone of you guys ever tried them?

Pshred

03-24-10, 06:54

Called them today. They accept only Gaijins from other asian countries, not americans or europeans.Hi Ronin,Thanks for calling d-suiren. I happen to be from an asian country, do I have to speak japanese with them though?Thanks

Ronin7788

03-24-10, 07:26

I just called another korean place in Uguisudani.Shop name is: Kan-deli (Yu-zin). Gaijin totally ok. But again you must speak at least basic japanese!!http://www.yu-zin.com/top.htmlMaking a reservation with Mama-san was very easy and after I read some reviews on kan-deli net I am looking forward for my first korean bang!Mama-san had a very friendly attitude and she even said which girls are chubby and which are not. She asked what kind I preferred and so on.

Kerfuffle

03-24-10, 08:41

Glad you had success. FYI, the Route Inn Web site can be accessed and reservations made in a few languages, including English:http://www.route-inn.co.jp/english/index.htmlThen in this case, click on Nagano Pref.:http://www.route-inn.co.jp/english/pref/nagano.htmlThen the icon for Kamiyamada:http://www.route-inn.co.jp/english/pref/nagano.html#kamiyamadaThen for the Kamiyamada location's reservations:http://www.route-inn.co.jp/english/pref/reserve_frame_en.php?hotel_id=6from where I see the cheap annex-category single room rates of 4900 yen available daily.As for the town being all Koreans, that's at odds from my experience already documented and which included witnessing of a number of nationalities, including Thai, Mongolian and others. What night(s) did you go? I speak from a Saturday-Sunday two-night exposure to the town. And all such negotiating regarding hotel location took place in the snack itself, with clear understanding among all parties on all points, financial and destination location, before leaving with the girl. I had no issue with regards the number of "permissible pops" either, but from walking around and scoping the place out before making my final choice on which establishment to enter and girl to go with, I could tell that some club mamas, while generally operating within the prevailing system of the town's leisure establishments, like anywhere else that I've seen like in Tokyo, needed to be watched closely and disregarded if conditions and their vibe didn't seem amenable to me.All that said, nice to hear you had a good time. Anyone else check Kamiyamada Onsen area out?
I followed the instructions below and was pleasantly surprised with the results. The town itself is small and a bit decrepit, but in an appealing way (many things are original from the 60's, so they're shabby but cool). It's true that the Route Inn is conveniently located and cheap. The cheap rooms don't seem to be available through their web site, only through Jalan. I too had no trouble with the camera in the Annex (although the room was really really small).I saw a writeup saying there are 200 snacks. I didn't believe that until I got there, but I think it's true. There are probably 3-5 girls per place, and the system is that you stick your head in the door and ask to 'see faces', at which point all the girls will jump up and run over to say Hi. I think everyone, except possibly the owners, is Korean. The language spoken between workers on the street is frequently Korean, and all the girls (and mamas) I saw were Korean.I stuck my head into a few places before finding one with OK options; it's a little hard to browse in a leisurely way since they're pretty desperate for business and want you to come in, choose a girl, and start paying asap. But I found something workable, had a few drinks, and worked it. Specifically negotiated that two pops was OK; told that this was a special service only for my first time. In the end, the first time lasted long enough that the girl insisted a second was impossible, and I couldn't have anyway. Yes, Y25k+about Y5k bar fees. Oh, and the all-you-can-drink is for 2 hours, not the 60-90 mins quoted on the signs (again, maybe because it was cold and quiet in February!), but that's for that 'Triangle' shochu which I think is $5 a bottle in stores, not beer or anything else. Still not expensive.Be aware that there may be trouble taking a girl back with you; mine insisted on going to the neighboring love hotel and had to go back and 'check with mama' to get approval to walk the extra block to my hotel.Some good restaurants too. Look for the two on the main street (behind the fancy sign) with sake bottles and old-looking fronts.

Mankosuki

03-24-10, 11:46

Called them today. They accept only Gaijins from other asian countries, not americans or europeans.For the money you would pay in Roppongi for a filipina, you might as well save it and fly to Manila for the real deal.

Member #3439

03-24-10, 17:01

I've been reading here for a while and I definitely see a strong sense of community on this forum. Especially in how to behave in Japan so the rest of the forum members don't suffer in Japan due to others reinforcing xenophobia.I ask because it reminded me of the man from Enumclaw that was having consensual sex with a horse and the man died from a perforated colon. That story made me realize just how easy it is to die from a rectal injury of somesort.I'm not actually "into" SM. I find the ideas behind it fascinating, but have no wish to participate.Yes, Japan ISG thread is special community because Japan is a very special place to monger. We foreigners are accepted here to some extent, but usually not. Whenever in town, I try to mind my manners and present gaijin in a positive light. Other gaijin on ISG live here in Tokyo and depend on the local market for all of their mongering, so we need to respect those people and do everything we can to preserve and expand the few gaijin friendly mongering spots that Tokyo has.Well, I didn't get pegged by a horse, just a pretty Japanese girl. But to be quite honest, I was so helpless at the time she could have done absolutely anything that she wanted. Thank god she didn't bring her uma.Maybe someday you are into SM, maybe not. Whatever makes you happy. In Tokyo, I feel like fetish is one of the specialities of the town. Like GFE in Rio, or gangbang in the Partytreffs in Germany. So in Tokyo I partake of the local speciality to the extent that my budget affords it. (not often).

Member #3439

03-24-10, 17:46

For you Jan-Jan lovers:I went there tonight, 6:50 pm and it was 3000 yen. I walked out at 7:25 and it was 4000 yen on the sign, so 7 PM if definitely the cut off time for 3k pricing.I have been to Jan-Jan a lot and have noticed 2 types of girls. One kind wants to do foreplay, kissing, and so forth. The other kind wants you to get your shorts off right away. The girls that want the underwear off right away give awesome BJ. For 6k prior to 7 pm, you could book 2 girls and probably get the best of both worlds.Unique experience:I went to Jan-Jan on a whim after work tonight because I had a 2 day load saved and figured that some J-girl should get a taste. :) I got done at Jan-Jan (damn good and nasty loud slurping BJ, so loud that you could have heard the slurping over the music no matter where you were standing in J-J, across to the far booths for example) and was was hungry after that, so rode over to Otsuka to the yakitori place that is on the left, if you were leaving Hi-Top, and has a sign showing different sticks of meat. So I am inside eating, and this couple next to me started trying to speak English to me. They were the kind of Japanese that are interested in foreign people and places. I speak a little Nihongo, so we were able to have a mixed conversation of English and Japanese. They ended up buying me sake, tons of it. Then they said that I was a hard drinker and smoker (PP doesn't just monger hard) and that they thought all Americans were runners and health nuts, and that most don't eat onagi, so respected me for being non-typical gaijin. So they bought me a bunch more sake, then asked me if I liked scotch. I said, Hai. They kept buying me sake and we 3 were half-hammered. They said that they were really drunk and going home and that I should come to their house down the street for 'special time,' Kept telling me how I was a strong man because of being a strong sake drinker..haha. Now where must PP's mind must be going?Yes, Holy shit, I thought I had struck the gold mine by meeting J-swingers in a yakitori restaraunt!!! J-mongers, you have heard of coupla kissa and know there is definitely a scene here for that. So I was about ecstatic and told them yes, I will come to your house!! I thought I would be balls deep in the wife in 20 minutes! So we walked down to some building, way up the elevator about 40 floors to a condo overlooking Ikebukuro. I got inside and found that the "special time' was an invitation to come drink 40 year old scotch and tell them about America. The people have an insane collection of very expensive scotch which PP helped them to drink. :) So I didn't get to fuck the guys wife, but I got scotch and cuban cigars with a yen equivalent to about 10 sessions at Hi-top in Otsuka. They even gave me an expensive bottle of wine on my way out as a gift.Chalk it up to experience, I went for a cheap blowjob and ended up in a penthouse drinking 40 year old scotch with some couple that just find gaijin interesting..they gave me their email and phone and want to meet with me again. Next time I am buying drinks and see if I can get in the pants of the wife, maybe next weekend. :) If I could have a MILF to fuck whenever I come to Tokyo, wow, that would be the dream. I would save so much money!!!!Note: They were particularly curious about why I visited Otsuka and said that foreigners don't ever come there to their area. I guess we Hi-Top mongers are quite the exceptional gaijin, adventurers in the Japanese eyes...although in this instance I was just there for the good yakitori, having already spent myself in Jan Jan (Sugamo.) But I only knew about the yak place because I stopped there 2 weeks ago after fucking a China girl over at Hi-Top.

Pat Rick

03-25-10, 00:00

Paristokyo

03-25-10, 06:53

Hey guys,No words on AF/AR for a long time. Still one of my favourite thoughI like LALA, she is nice and petite, but very friendly. Great massage, with lots of oil and attention to my ass, then the greatest ball massage ever.Also, she let me touch her breasts while handjobing me, which is nice.Yuki is nice too, but touching her is a no-go, which is quite putting me off.Though, I'd like to try a new girl there. Any recommendation?Kei and Sara look very nice. However, I need a girl who is happy to ge touched. Who are you recommending?Thanks for the tip. I have a lot of free mongering time now and will post some reports this week. Please enjoy all.

Xslikx

03-25-10, 09:52

For the money you would pay in Roppongi for a filipina, you might as well save it and fly to Manila for the real deal.What are you referring to? There was no mention of any filipinas.

Xslikx

03-25-10, 09:53

Hi Ronin,Thanks for calling d-suiren. I happen to be from an asian country, do I have to speak japanese with them though?ThanksYes. Korean Delivery is all in Japanese.

Dynomutt

03-25-10, 10:38

For you Jan-Jan lovers:I went there tonight, 6:50 pm and it was 3000 yen. I walked out at 7:25 and it was 4000 yen on the sign, so 7 PM if definitely the cut off time for 3k pricing.If I could have a MILF to fuck whenever I come to Tokyo, wow, that would be the dream. I would save so much money!!!!And you just stopped for something to eat! Great read, Puta Playa. You must be a charming fellow; especially when you're drunk. I'm impressed by how you planned on working your angle for the next 'date,' too.

AussieGaigin

03-25-10, 11:24

What are you referring to? There was no mention of any filipinas.Yes there was. Try post 7128.

Member #3439

03-25-10, 12:40

In Phuket, I'm known as a 'chocolate man', over the years, never had a problem there. I am making my first solo trip to Tokyo within a few weeks. In the evening hours I want to have some fun. After reading several threads, I'm going with either CB or AM. Will I be judge by my chocolateness :-) or will I be just another customer. Thanks!Choco-san, I think you would be able to score non-pros in the bar scene at certain places. Try Gaspanic in Shibuya first, late at night, then the gaijin bars in Roppongi. Check the Nampa thread here on ISG as well. After midnight, try the places where people hang out waiting for the trains to restart. Look online for international parties, then go to them. Introduce yourself as Choco-san and see what happens. Then post a report in the nampa section about your experiences.Welcome to ISG.-Puta Playa

Prius Driver

03-26-10, 14:15

The girls that let me touch their breasts that are still working there are Kei, Asami and Mui. There is even an old post where Kei gave someone a BBBJCIM. I've only had one girl that didn't show me her breasts, let alone touch them. That was Nataliy. I feel the same as you so I'll never ask for her again. Thanks for the tip on Yuki. If you are nice to the girls, some of them might secretly give their phone number and mobile phone address supposedly for some FS action. Although I have never taken them up on it.
Hey guys,No words on AF/AR for a long time. Still one of my favourite thoughI like LALA, she is nice and petite, but very friendly. Great massage, with lots of oil and attention to my ass, then the greatest ball massage ever.Also, she let me touch her breasts while handjobing me, which is nice.Yuki is nice too, but touching her is a no-go, which is quite putting me off.Though, I'd like to try a new girl there. Any recommendation?Kei and Sara look very nice. However, I need a girl who is happy to ge touched. Who are you recommending?Thanks for the tip. I have a lot of free mongering time now and will post some reports this week. Please enjoy all.

Pat Rick

03-27-10, 00:04

Choco-san, I think you would be able to score non-pros in the bar scene at certain places. Try Gaspanic in Shibuya first, late at night, then the gaijin bars in Roppongi. Check the Nampa thread here on ISG as well. After midnight, try the places where people hang out waiting for the trains to restart. Look online for international parties, then go to them. Introduce yourself as Choco-san and see what happens. Then post a report in the nampa section about your experiences.Welcome to ISG.-Puta PlayaThanks for the info, Gaspanic looks wild. I'll have to check it out.

Member #3439

03-27-10, 00:37

As I start the last weekend of this stay in Tokyo, I reflect back on the virtue of enjoying local specialties. In Tokyo, that is Fetish Domina S&M and pink salons. This link below looks like a good candidate for you pervs out there. It has English menus so might be gaijin friendly. I think I will try it on my next trip. For now, I am doing one more session with my demon of a domina, shoot semen into the mouth of one more low-rent Jan-Jan OL, and then divert to Jakarta to 'get my monger back'. This has been a humbling and expensive time for me, typical for Japan trips. Maybe, in another generation, gaijin will be able to enter soapland and fashion health without complications, but for now I leave once more with ill feelings toward Japan and hopes for change in the mindset of the Japanese people. Not only with regard to fuzoku, but to foreigners in any setting. The xenophobia of Japan and lack of understanding about the rest of the world astonishes and disappoints me more on each trip as I come to understand that it exists not only in the countryside, but just as much so in the urban areas among well-educated Japanese.The SM scene is the only place that I have experienced truly well-traveled and multicultural Japanese who don't discriminate against gaijin or act as if we are oddities. Ironically, the same ones who treat me like an animal in session are the ones that are most civilized in their approach and conversations in a normal setting. Maybe because they don't hold much sacred, and the rest of Japanese consider everything Japanese to be sacred. Everything not-Japanese is less kirei and therefore inferior unless the Japanese consider it to have entertainment value. That is my take after 2 months in Japan. It's what I feel on the streets of Tokyo, Yokohama, Osaka, Kyoto, and lesser known parts around the rest of Honshu. Perhaps an expat can correct me if I am wrong.So try and enjoy. I will be back before long with more reports on Tokyo and Osaka on my next trip to Nihon. Sponsored of course because I wouldn't come here on my own money. If any newbie horny traveller is reading this thread and thinking of coming here for tourism + geisha and the other things that people think you can have here: beautiful J-girls with legs spread and wild bush begging for anal fuck, coupla kissa, eel shows, bukkake film shoots, etc...keep flying past it....it's somewhere here.. but as gaijin you'll never see in this lifetime. "Shit ain't like that". :) http://www.club-mars.jp/html/index.html-pp

Evan Stoner

03-27-10, 02:53

...humbling...ill feelings...xenophobia...If any newbie horny traveller is reading this thread and thinking of coming here for tourism + geisha and the other things that people think you can have here: beautiful J-girls with legs spread and wild bush begging for anal fuck, coupla kissa, eel shows, bukkake film shoots, etc...keep flying past it....it's somewhere here.. but as gaijin you'll never see in this lifetime....Correction: as a gaijin tourist with the wrong attitude, you'll never see it. For those of us with the requisite perspective and patience the sky continues to be the limit.Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.ESP.S. Eel shows? WTF

Member #3439

03-27-10, 07:45

Correction: as a gaijin tourist with the wrong attitude, you'll never see it. For those of us with the requisite perspective and patience the sky continues to be the limit.Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.ES P.S. Eel shows? WTFThank for for that insight. It seems the sky is not the limit even for skilled J-mongers such as yourself who are fluent in Japanese but still concerned about getting caught out as a non-Japanese over the phone. I think that your posts on this board confirm everything I am saying.The concerns of ISG'ers in Japan would seem ludicrous to people from most other threads on ISG. It is rough here. Guys in the Arab muslim countries have an even easier time.No need to flame me. I post info that gets people laid, here and in Osaka. I spend a few months a year working in Japan, so am not gaijin tourist. But this is P4P, not nampa, and if you have cold cash and a hard dick, what difference should it make whether you are here for a day or a lifetime? Even in rural Mexico and hidden nooks of downtown Rio de Janeiro where gringos are rarely seen, let alone fucked, I have no problem laying anything I want and never experience the kind of racism that exists in Japan. They could just as easily take my wallet and push me out the door. The police would do nothing. But they choose to fuck me and treat me very well. So when I indicate that people in Japan are still generally still backwards, this is where I am coming from. That said, there are some people with a modern outlook like Milkybaby, Jan-Jan and D-cup. But this is maybe, what, 0.05% of the total that is available to Japanese? Exceptions rather than the rule.What, you've never seen an unagi film? Anything that people eat in a sushi bar, Japanese A/V find some way for a girl to have sex with it...or at least give the apperance thereof. Unagi, tako, etc.

Backtobasics

03-27-10, 07:46

PP,Thanks so much for the link to that fine establishment in Ikebukuro. That fine, but filthy, part of town has been my den of iniquity this week, with Milky Baby and TMK Manami sessions. I am now considerably poorer (and in need of a good long sleep ...), but I think I have recharged my batteries enough to get me through the next 4 months of work.However, ... Mars pricked up my ears and got me thinking of dropping a bit more ? in Ikebukuro. Until I watched some of the videos on the site ... Ooohhh.... I am now sitting with my legs firmly crossed, and they may stay that way!
As I start the last weekend of this stay in Tokyo, I reflect back on the virtue of enjoying local specialties. In Tokyo, that is Fetish Domina S&M and pink salons. This link below looks like a good candidate for you pervs out there. It has English menus so might be gaijin friendly. I think I will try it on my next trip. For now, I am doing one more session with my demon of a domina, shoot semen into the mouth of one more low-rent Jan-Jan OL, and then divert to Jakarta to 'get my monger back'. This has been a humbling and expensive time for me, typical for Japan trips. Maybe, in another generation, gaijin will be able to enter soapland and fashion health without complications, but for now I leave once more with ill feelings toward Japan and hopes for change in the mindset of the Japanese people. Not only with regard to fuzoku, but to foreigners in any setting. The xenophobia of Japan and lack of understanding about the rest of the world astonishes and disappoints me more on each trip as I come to understand that it exists not only in the countryside, but just as much so in the urban areas among well-educated Japanese.The SM scene is the only place that I have experienced truly well-traveled and multicultural Japanese who don't discriminate against gaijin or act as if we are oddities. Ironically, the same ones who treat me like an animal in session are the ones that are most civilized in their approach and conversations in a normal setting. Maybe because they don't hold much sacred, and the rest of Japanese consider everything Japanese to be sacred. Everything not-Japanese is less kirei and therefore inferior unless the Japanese consider it to have entertainment value. That is my take after 2 months in Japan. It's what I feel on the streets of Tokyo, Yokohama, Osaka, Kyoto, and lesser known parts around the rest of Honshu. Perhaps an expat can correct me if I am wrong.So try and enjoy. I will be back before long with more reports on Tokyo and Osaka on my next trip to Nihon. Sponsored of course because I wouldn't come here on my own money. If any newbie horny traveller is reading this thread and thinking of coming here for tourism + geisha and the other things that people think you can have here: beautiful J-girls with legs spread and wild bush begging for anal fuck, coupla kissa, eel shows, bukkake film shoots, etc...keep flying past it....it's somewhere here.. but as gaijin you'll never see in this lifetime. "Shit ain't like that". :) http://www.club-mars.jp/html/index.html-pp

Japanguy

03-27-10, 11:41

PP, for what it's worth I have to agree with you. I'm basically a Tokyo salaryman, I work in a Japanese company, I visit the small places that other salarymen eat and drink in, and I only have a couple of non-Japanese friends that I see rarely. I live my day to day life without encountering racism, I've never encountered the sort of racism that I read other people have encountered (trouble with police, being turned away from shops etc).But occasionally I come across the mind set you describe and I'm reminded that I am in fact a white guy living in a foreign land and that Japan has a long way to go before it can be considered multicultural. Quite likely Japan will never be multicultural.I visit a couple of the places mentioned here regularly because I've given up trying other places. I do appreciate the efforts of the other mongers here that are willing to face rejection and take a hit for the team.

Takadondon

03-27-10, 17:26

I tried both happy mail and kirara cafe today and figured it may be of interest for some people. To be clear, I'm Japanese American and I speak passable Japanese for casual situations so I've never experienced the rejections others on this board may be getting. For those who are foreigners who can speak/read/write Japanese though, I don't think these options are necessarily closed to you. Believe somebody else has posted about Kirara in the past about their successes.So. I wanted to get laid this weekend so I started looking around for options. I wasn't looking necessarily for a cheap lay (I'm generally pretty picky). I started looking at happy mail because I remember seeing ads here and there around Shibuya. Its essentially supposed to be a match making site. I was hoping to find a sex friend (sefure) but it became pretty obvious after responding to a few posts on the message boards that at least the girls posting in the "adult" sections are generally pros. Most also do not have their photos up and also will not share it even if you ask them. Happy mail works by charging pts for every single mail you send or even read so I tried to get a few of the girls to start mailing outside of happy mail but that proved fruitless as well. I finally ran into one girl who had a photo which looked good so I set up a rendevoux in Shibuya. The girl that arrived was a cow that didn't look anything like the photo. If you are patient enough and have the time you may be able to hook up with a decent looking girl through this site. Most girls seemed to ask for 20k. I quit while I was ahead (I didn't pay anything as I stayed within the starting free points happy mail gives newcomers).After rejecting the cow I decided to give Kirara Cafe (deai cafe) in Shinjuku a visit. This was only the 2nd time I've been to a deai cafe, the first time being Nonno Cafe in Shibuya a while ago. My prior attempt ended up being a fruitless experience. I think I made the mistake of when talking to the girl that I wanted to go to the hotel directly (effectively skip the "date"). Anyways I got to Kirara Cafe, they waived the membership fee but they did charge me 5k unlimited entrance and talk time with girls. Meaning I can go in/out multiple times in a day if I don't see what I want. The setup is guys are in one room and girls in another separated by a magic mirror. When you see a girl you like you tell the attendant and he'll arrange a 1 on 1 talk time with the girl where you have 10 mins to seal the deal. If both you and the girl agree to date then you have to pay another 3k yen to take the girl out. In general the girl will expect to get an allowance of 5k. 10k for dating you. If you decide to take her to a hotel after the date it'll cost you a lot more.When I went today the place (around 7pm) it was bad. There were 6 guys in the room and only 1 girl in the other room. The girl was cute however and apparently newly signing up as a member. Unsurprisingly when the attendant came with her profile most of the guys (including me) raised our hands to have a personal chat time. The system in that case is fair where the guys would select a card from a stack and order is determined based on that. I wasn't so lucky this time with the draw and the guy who first talked to her decided to take her out on a date. I then waited what felt like ages till the next girl came (but passed on). Then around 8pm my luck changed and 3 girls came into the store at once. 2 out of the three was very very cute (the type of girls you see walking around Shibuya). I picked a 23 year old girl and proceeded to have the 1 on 1 talk. At which point we agreed on what we will do (karaoke) and how much was the allowance (10k). We then left the store together, singed Karaoke for an hour. Part of which was negotiating the cost to get laid. We then proceeded to a nearby love hotel and did the deed. I won't bother going into the details given this is a Deai cafe and as the girl doesn't work there you'll have a slim chance of meeting up.The only bummer is the cost of the experience, which was for me.- 5k entrance to kirara.- 3k to take the girl out.- 10k allowance for the girl.- 3k karaoke + drinks/food- 4k love hotel- 35k for sexTotal being 60k. I guess depending on the girl you can probably skip the "date" part and also negotiate down the allowance and sex charges (I'm a bad negotiator). The main upside is that you get to pretty much pick and choose the girl, and compared to what I've had at various delivery massages and delivery healths (w/ and w/o sex), there is good quality to be had as long as you are patient.Finally one thing with the deai cafes. Both Nonno and Kirara both will ask for personal information (name/address/ph). You can put in BS for most of the fields except for the phone number. They will call the number you apply with on the spot to make sure its real.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Tengu

03-28-10, 03:27

I also have to agree with PP's assessment. Even the most objective observer of Japan has to acknowledge that a certain level of racism, or perhaps just willful ignorance(?), exist here in regards to non-japanese. There are many wonderful things about this place though, so accepting a certain base level of racism just becomes part of the bargain or trade off of living here. Just calling it as it is doesn't necessarily equal a bad attitude.

Evan Stoner

03-28-10, 10:37

A tip for anyone who is a regular user of Grimpeur and doesn't like carrying around a point card for 'security reasons': the shop guys will keep track of your points behind the counter if you give them your 'name' each time you take out a girl. Recommended.ES

Member #3439

03-28-10, 16:38

After rejecting the cow I decided to give Kirara Cafe (deai cafe) in Shinjuku a visit. This was only the 2nd time I've been to a deai cafe, the first time being Nonno Cafe in Shibuya a while ago. My prior attempt ended up being a fruitless experience. -----2 out of the three was very very cute (the type of girls you see walking around Shibuya). ----Total being 60k. I guess depending on the girl you can probably skip the "date" part and also negotiate down the allowance and sex charges (I'm a bad negotiator). The main upside is that you get to pretty much pick and choose the girl, and compared to what I've had at various delivery massages and delivery healths (w/ and w/o sex), there is good quality to be had as long as you are patient.Three posts to your name, and you've already got a ROD. This is great and unique info. Also, you are a monger of distinction, with extreme dedication. I have never seen a post anywhere on ISG where someone paid so much, but a semi-pro "Shibuya girl" is probably the highest level of top-end mongering that someone can achieve, in this country and most others. I believe some of the most beautiful women in the world can be seen at Shibuya crossing and totally understand what you mean by the reference.That said, I wonder how gaijin of non-Japanese descent would fare. I expect that eventually, after waiting long enough, one would get a willing girl though. Maybe one of you other big spenders of a different genetic descent can go try and get bragging rights. :)I wonder how many of the 'Shibuya girls' can speak English. Obviously, as they dress in expensive clothes, they must come from well heeled and educated families and have gone to good schools. At least the ones that don't have to sell pussy at this place to buy those designer things.There is supposedly this wide network of JETS people teaching English and English is a part of the standard cirriculum, English is on the TV, in their popular culture, even in the words that are printed on their clothes...its almost pervasive..yet in practice most young Japanese seem to have next to no ability to speak it. But maybe that's cause I hang out near sexy places in the 'slums', like Ike, Otsuka, Sugamo, and places in Osaka like Umeda (not slum) and Nishinari-Ku. Not my words... I'm told by my Japanese coworkers that these are low class 'blue worker' districts and I shouldn't be hanging out there (but it's so fun!). They think I must be sophisticated. Wrong!! I wish I could find the real low end places, where the girls fresh from the farm in Kyushu to the big city are looking for some way to pay their rent doing LT with gaijin for low rates. :) Anyone that posts that, resulting in me getting LT J-GFE, is a hero and I will paypal you 5K yen.I did Rosetta Japanese 1-3 [people, don't waste a year of your time on this, not worth the hundreds of hours of effort. I want that part of my life back.] and know more of Japanese than the typical 20-something Japanese knows of English. They know how to say 'yes', 'no' and 'okay'. Something is wrong with the system. Also, how the do some of you guys get really 'fluent' in Japanese anyway..grow up here on the military bases, expat dad or something? I know a couple people that have gone to college to specifically to study Japan and the language and did not become fluent in the course of 4 years of undergrad. Also, I know guys who have lived here for many years and don't have anything anywhere near fluency.My coworkers tell me that they cannot understand the Japanese that is written on the scrolls in the Tokyo Edo museum because at some point in the Edo period, the language was changed. I think it was changed to make it so fucking hard that gaijin would never want to live here and try to understand it. :) I picked up Spanish and Brasilian Porto like a breeze; Japanese is a pain. Perhaps the ease of the Latin-based languages contributes to the conquest of the country, and the quick conquest of the women. Which is why these are called Romance languages and are spoken in many places with awesome nympho GFE P4P where they fuck you unlimited pops until your dick hurts and your balls are dry, even bareback, for the price of a nice lunch at a respectable restaurant..and Japanese is not a Romance language and is spoken in a place with almost no GFE P4P under 25k yen. Keeping it in relative terms, thats like like 5 full 100 gm shabu-shabu dinner courses or 2.5 nice steak dinner courses. God, Buddha, Izanagi-no-Mikoto, help us to get these pussy prices down in Japan!

Zcorps

03-28-10, 18:54

The setup is guys are in one room and girls in another separated by a magic mirror. When you see a girl you like you tell the attendant and he'll arrange a 1 on 1 talk time with the girl where you have 10 mins to seal the deal. If both you and the girl agree to date then you have to pay another 3k yen to take the girl out.Thanks for the info. I've been meaning to try a deai cafe for a while but every time I decide to go there, I get distracted. I'm just curious, though, how does the initial conversation between you and the girl go? Did the girl go straight to business or did you make the usual small take?I don't think it matters much, but I'm just curious.

Gaijin Otoko

03-29-10, 02:13

I wonder how many of the 'Shibuya girls' can speak English. Not very many. Just as in nearly any country, beauty and intelligence are often inversely proportional. To put it another way, they can spend their time concentrating on looking hot, or concentrating on learning a language which is just about as different from their native tongue as possible. Nobody can do both. Sometimes you get super-hot chicks who are naturally skilled at acquiring languages, or super smart chicks who are naturally hot (my personal favorite), but this is an extremely small segment of the population.
There is supposedly this wide network of JETS people teaching English and English is a part of the standard cirriculum, English is on the TV, in their popular culture, even in the words that are printed on their clothes...its almost pervasive..yet in practice most young Japanese seem to have next to no ability to speak it. <snip> I wish I could find the real low end places, where the girls fresh from the farm in Kyushu to the big city are looking for some way to pay their rent doing LT with gaijin for low rates. :) Anyone that posts that, resulting in me getting LT J-GFE, is a hero and I will paypal you 5K yen.JETs and private eikaiwa teachers are just wet-behind-the-ears kids who usually wind up serving as living tape recorders because they have no training in teaching anything, much less language to Japanese people. And don't forget, the main source and motivation for learning English is so that you can pass the foreign language section of the entrance examination to your university of choice. There is no speaking test on that exam, and only a small listening section. JETs and private English teachers are usually up to their armpits in pussy, especially if they are halfway decent looking and can speak a fair amount of Japanese. I know my success rate went up exponentially when I was one. However if I knew a place where I could get LT J-GFE, I would definitely charge a LOT more than 5K yen. Marrying a J-Girl is a bad idea, as it usually results in a rapid drop-off in access to her pussy, no matter how much she might be gagging for it before you slip the ring on her finger. Japanese people are all about societal roles, and wanton housewife who screws her husband nearly to death four or five times a week is apparently not a recognized role.
Also, how the do some of you guys get really 'fluent' in Japanese anyway..grow up here on the military bases, expat dad or something? I know a couple people that have gone to college to specifically to study Japan and the language and did not become fluent in the course of 4 years of undergrad. Also, I know guys who have lived here for many years and don't have anything anywhere near fluency.I studied for several years before moving to Japan and living there for nearly a decade. I think the thing that pushed my fluency the fastest, though, was when I worked as an interpreter/translator. That is not for everyone, but once you think you have gone as far as you can with individual study, this is the best way for "breaking through the barrier" between mid and high fluency.
My coworkers tell me that they cannot understand the Japanese that is written on the scrolls in the Tokyo Edo museum because at some point in the Edo period, the language was changed. I think it was changed to make it so fucking hard that gaijin would never want to live here and try to understand it. :) <snip> God, Buddha, Izanagi-no-Mikoto, help us to get these pussy prices down in Japan!Portugal and Spain have a lot historically in common with English. Japan, on the other hand, was completely closed to foreigners for a length of time longer than the United States has been in existence. That means the language went through a lot of critical development isolated from everything else. That's what makes it so hard to learn. Regarding the prices, it's a function of the wealth of Japan. Latin America is not noted for its wealth. You can go to the Philippines, Thailand, or Indonesia and get just about all the things you describe in Latin America for the same price.

Fried Luke

03-29-10, 10:12

Thanks for the info, Gaspanic looks wild. I'll have to check it out.There's also two Gas Panics in Roppongi. The one, which is in an alley off the main road and very visible, is a fire hazard? when it gets late. There are so many people in there that it feels like a packed train. I was just standing next to the back wall, drinking some tea, and some other gaijin thought I was trying to hit on the girl he was working on.?I say this because the US has extremely tight building codes that deal with fire hazards so it was very different to me seeing a place that would clearly be a fire hazard, it had stairs to get into it, and it had only one exit.

Fried Luke

03-29-10, 10:21

Kerfuffle

03-29-10, 10:37

Thanks for relating your experience. I guess the cost can add up in that situation. Do you or anyone have suggestions on keeping deai cafe encounter costs relatively lower, like not to exceed 30,000-35,000 yen total, incl. LH? Or is the assumption it will be stratospheric in cost unless you limit the take-out aspect to karaoke, restaurant, etc.?To that end and (diverging for a moment from the deai cafe thing) at any rate, one way to cut down on costs of an impromptu in-city mongering event: The other day I approached a 24-year-old busty chick on the street who was walking near the LHs next to Seibu Shinjuku Station. I hadn't planned it, as I was just walking along already having been in the neighborhood, and it wasn't a nampa thing in my mind as I was really pressed for time and I think she was out there open to proposals, but I said in Japanese that she was cute, I want to play and should we go to a coffee shop for a drink. Then, we walked together taking a left from the LH street, past the koban and up to a coffee shop for some small talk. I only had about 45 minutes free until I absolutely had to be on a train for an appointment somewhere else, and had in mind the quick budget option of heading to a rental room locally in the Kabukicho area. So I proposed this, reemphasizing there was definitely to be something in it for her, and we went and did the deed (with safe sex methodology paramount). Cost: 1000 for two drinks at the coffee shop, 2000 for a 70-minute course at the shower-equipped rental room adjacent on side street from Seibu Shinjuku Station (of which we really only used about 40 minutes max) and 10,000 for her (it's the recession, you know). So, 13,000 yen total cost for a quickie, and left with her phone number in case I'm ever in the area and in the mood again.I have walked past but never deigned to go into deai cafes in the hot areas of Shibuya/Shinjuku. Yet once, outside one deai cafe in the rather pedestrian shitamachi Asakusa area one evening, I got talking to a drunkish woman stumbling out the establishment as I was mulling whether to take the plunge and go inside; instead, I played dumb and took her to an izakaya to feed her (she was quick to agree to that, having had three drinks on a relatively empty stomach at the deai cafe), but she had to hit the road for her train afterward, and our personal chemistry wasn't all that great anyway so I never invested much energy in pursuing her further. She wasn't super-young either, just a relatively doable 30-something OL, but it was intriguing from my standpoint for seeing the types that frequent deai cafes away from Shibuya/Shinjuku, and what they may be after. Maybe I'l hit that scene up another time.
The only bummer is the cost of the experience, which was for me.- 5k entrance to kirara.- 3k to take the girl out.- 10k allowance for the girl.- 3k karaoke + drinks/food- 4k love hotel- 35k for sexTotal being 60k. I guess depending on the girl you can probably skip the "date" part and also negotiate down the allowance and sex charges (I'm a bad negotiator). The main upside is that you get to pretty much pick and choose the girl, and compared to what I've had at various delivery massages and delivery healths (w/ and w/o sex), there is good quality to be had as long as you are patient.Finally one thing with the deai cafes. Both Nonno and Kirara both will ask for personal information (name/address/ph). You can put in BS for most of the fields except for the phone number. They will call the number you apply with on the spot to make sure its real.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

The Tanuki

03-29-10, 12:05

That said, I wonder how gaijin of non-Japanese descent would fare. I expect that eventually, after waiting long enough, one would get a willing girl though. Maybe one of you other big spenders of a different genetic descent can go try and get bragging rights. :)I go to the kaiten-sushi place next to Kirara sometimes, and I've seen western guys coming out of there (not with girls) a couple of times. Maybe the girls were fugly or they couldn't figure out how to negotiate. I have no idea, but gaijin do get in ok...
Also, how the do some of you guys get really 'fluent' in Japanese anyway..grow up here on the military bases, expat dad or something? I know a couple people that have gone to college to specifically to study Japan and the language and did not become fluent in the course of 4 years of undergrad. Also, I know guys who have lived here for many years and don't have anything anywhere near fluency.It was just that I was into it at the time. I studied in set classes and practiced in bars (alcohol helps remove the shyness at fucking up in Nihongo) and lived up north where people don't speak English much. Had to use it or not have much conversation in life. The nice point is when you can give up translating in your head and just engage the discussion. Much less tiring after that...Tanuki

Gime Shoyubunny

03-30-10, 14:32

First time poster.I'm here for about a month and a half and have tasted a bit of Tokyo in the past 2 weeks.1st trip. Yuyu at GotandaDamage: 8,000yenGaijin FriendlyGirl: Yuka (Chinese about 30)The girl was about a 5 (I was horny and needed to release the boys from my left nut). Thinking back, I was pretty desperate. Flat tits, no ass and an overly excited personality.Showered, and then back to the room for a 5min half assed massage. I was then flipped for a weak CBJ and then proceeded to mish. I'm asian and she didn't even let me go in all the way (WTF)! I released the load and then was led out. Took only 30 min for a 60min course. Will not go back.2nd Trip. Jan Jan at SugamoDamage: 3,000yenGirl: Eri (Japanese 26)Went in at 3pm and it was pretty empty. The girl was about a 7/10 (had a tampon on). DFK, let me lick the nips and proceeded to BBBJ. She really had good technique and was into her craft. After 10min I blew my load, had the towel wipe and had some small talk with the girl before heading out. I'll be going back there tomorrow.3rd trip. CL meet-up atShibuyaDamage: 14,000yenGirl: Jojo (Chinese 28)I should have read an earlier post about CL ads. Seriously, this girl was a 4/10. IMHO this girl had a solid body but the head of my Chinese friends father. Once again I was horny and needed to bust a nut. Met her near the station and proceeded to head over to a LH (4,000yen). When we got into the room, this crazy nut of a girl up'ed the level of craziness to a level I never known. She started staring at my feet and admired the hairs on the tops of my toes. She then started pointing out all the dark spots on my body and spoke crazy stuff about how she likes dark spots. After 10min, she finally slowed down on the crazy talk and gave me the worst HJ I ever had. Gave her what we agreed on, 10,000 and sent her out.Just a warning the rest of you of this nut. BTW her email address is cubbercatyahoo.com.Safe hunting.

Backtobasics

03-31-10, 08:41

Thanks for the yuyu update. I was thinking about a trip there, just to try somewhere new, but perhaps I won't now.Craigslist! What is going on with that?! Probably more hope for the monger in Metropolis ads now > thought they are going to get so many replies that your chances of being mailed back are close to zero.
First time poster.I'm here for about a month and a half and have tasted a bit of Tokyo in the past 2 weeks.1st trip. Yuyu at GotandaDamage: 8,000yenGaijin FriendlyGirl: Yuka (Chinese about 30)The girl was about a 5 (I was horny and needed to release the boys from my left nut). Thinking back, I was pretty desperate. Flat tits, no ass and an overly excited personality.Showered, and then back to the room for a 5min half assed massage. I was then flipped for a weak CBJ and then proceeded to mish. I'm asian and she didn't even let me go in all the way (WTF)! I released the load and then was led out. Took only 30 min for a 60min course. Will not go back.2nd Trip. Jan Jan at SugamoDamage: 3,000yenGirl: Eri (Japanese 26)Went in at 3pm and it was pretty empty. The girl was about a 7/10 (had a tampon on). DFK, let me lick the nips and proceeded to BBBJ. She really had good technique and was into her craft. After 10min I blew my load, had the towel wipe and had some small talk with the girl before heading out. I'll be going back there tomorrow.3rd trip. CL meet-up atShibuyaDamage: 14,000yenGirl: Jojo (Chinese 28)I should have read an earlier post about CL ads. Seriously, this girl was a 4/10. IMHO this girl had a solid body but the head of my Chinese friends father. Once again I was horny and needed to bust a nut. Met her near the station and proceeded to head over to a LH (4,000yen). When we got into the room, this crazy nut of a girl up'ed the level of craziness to a level I never known. She started staring at my feet and admired the hairs on the tops of my toes. She then started pointing out all the dark spots on my body and spoke crazy stuff about how she likes dark spots. After 10min, she finally slowed down on the crazy talk and gave me the worst HJ I ever had. Gave her what we agreed on, 10,000 and sent her out.Just a warning the rest of you of this nut. BTW her email address is cubbercatyahoo.com.Safe hunting.

Dung20

03-31-10, 11:19

Yeah Id stay well away from CL. The only responses I get I call them and they are blatantly trannies. So unless you like that sort of thing Id stay away. Or, does anyone have any success stories?

Ma Melb

03-31-10, 13:21

Hi,I would like to know is there any gaijin friendly image clubs or massage clubs that offer HJ or BJ?Thanks

Zcorps

04-01-10, 04:08

While I've never been to a place that wasn't gaijin friendly, the extreme xenophobia of the Japanese seems to lean positive wrt me. Maybe because I'm american, am extremely white, have blondish hair, and have blue eyes. Or it could just be how absolutely timid I look.You obviously haven't been out mongering in Japan or at the very least, you haven't ventured into unknown territory. Most places like restaurants and stores in Japan will take you in just fine. It's the sex industry that's really discriminating. There are MANY places that won't take foreigners, hell if you go check out a few websites for soaps or hotel healths you'll see on the website that it says no foreigners in the rules. There are also many places that will take foreigners, but several girls within those stores who refuse service to foreigners. Your appearance has nothing to do with it either. In day to day life you probably do get treated rather well. It's mostly the sex-industry that has a problem with you. You're actually more likely to be discriminated against than others simply because you DO have blonde hair and blue eyes. Don't believe me? Try walking into random soaps in yoshiwara. Many of them will ask you to leave.In this economy though, things are easing up a bit. One store that politely refused me last year was more than willing to set me up with a girl not too long ago. For those of us that speak Japanese, there are tons of places around that will take us in as well. All I'm saying is that there is discrimination, and if you haven't experienced it, you're either sticking to places the board recommended or you're just not paying attention.

Gaijin Otoko

04-01-10, 04:45

Hi,I would like to know is there any gaijin friendly image clubs or massage clubs that offer HJ or BJ?ThanksWelcome to the forum. Search for Jan Jan. You are welcome.

Kuro Gaijin

04-01-10, 05:53

I would stay away from CL. Most of the ads have fake pictures and the women are older than what they say they are or not females at all- and uglier than sin. Cubber used to say she was Thai.

Spooky99

04-02-10, 03:47

Greetings guys (and gals?), great site and forums here. I have been a member for a couple of months but haven't had a chance to really read through all these pages!I have been in Japan for a couple of years now and loving every minute of it. I see the photo section is running a bit slow so I may have to add a couple of my conquests to brighten the place up!I have a couple of question but in the fairness of sharing I will let you know a few of my exploits first although I'm sure I'm not sharing anything new!When I first got here I found it pretty easy to just pick up Japanese girls in bars/izakayas etc and had many a memorable night.Then after about 6 months I started hitting Metropolis ads ? this was a bit of a gold mine ? I met 16 Japanese girls over a year that way and slept with 9 of them the first night. Generally I found girls who put ads in Metropolis to be good fun and a bit more openly sexual (wearing g-strings, a couple of shaved pussies, willing to put out etc) than random Japanese girls I met, but they are also more often looking for a boyfriend and can get a bit clingy.Now I am venturing into the pay side of things for a bit of a new experience and this is why I found this forum.I have been to Asian Feeling/Relaxation three times now and will give a quick run down on the girls I had1. This was my first experience for anything like this so I was a bit nervous and didn't know what to expect really. For a first timer, Asian Feeling/Relaxation is very easy. I speak Japanese ok but I'm not very familiar with all the terms used in this world! Getting the service I wanted was not a problem. The girl was Kei, looks ok, minimal English, average massage and happy ending! She let me touch her anywhere and I got her tittys out and played with them during the service.2. This time I had Sala for a 90 minute oil course. Sala is great, very cute, speaks English very well. She gave a great massage with lots of ball rubbing and tickled my asshole as well. She then gave me sumata and then finished me off with her hand. I asked her if I could touch and legs were ok but no boobs. I asked her if she would take her top off but she said it was against the rules. After the massage she gave me her card with her phone email on it ? we emailed a few times and I organized to meet her in a love hotel for another massage. It was all going ok then she backed out at the last minute and said she wanted to meet me at Asian Feeling once more time (fair enough I say!). I haven't seen her since but I think I will request her the next time.3. The last time I went I had Misaki ? no English, reasonably cute, no complaints about the massage or happy ending. Touching was ok and I got both her tittys out and played with them during the massage.Thinking of having a go at Asian Mystique next time as I'm looking for more of a full service next time! I will post details of what happens. I have my eye on Yumika.Now I have a couple of questions if anyone would mind answering. I see lots of Thai massage places around where I work and wouldn't mind checking them out sometime ? how do you know if a happy ending is on the menu? I called a couple of places and tried to ask (rather than risk the embarrassment at the front desk!) but don't know the term to use. Can I expect a happy ending option at most of the dodgy looking Thai massage places around!How about Japanese strip clubs ? are they generally open to gaijin. I am sure they are probably pretty overpriced for what you get but I'm interested to check one out ? any recommendations?Thanks to everyone who reads through all this and I look forward to spending more time on this forum!Spooky

Fac50

04-02-10, 03:58

Hi allI appreciate everyone's advice on this forum. I travel to Japan once in a while and can speak decent Japanese.The one thing I'm careful of is to try to not f things up for everyone else. I've found plenty of good advice on the soaps in the forum, but have one question. Since this is going to be costing a good amount of money, if I go into the lobby and look at the pictures (understanding only certain girls are gaijin friendly), and I don't like what I'm offered, is there a polite way to say that I'm not interested?Thanks

Backtobasics

04-02-10, 21:43

My question to you is about your success rate with Metropolis. I think you were lucky to even get so many replies (by that I mean your replies to their ads), or did they reply to yours?In the past I found my ads attracted a lot of nutters, and replying to others ads was like throwing a message-in-a-bottle into the sea.
Greetings guys (and gals?), great site and forums here. I have been a member for a couple of months but haven't had a chance to really read through all these pages!I have been in Japan for a couple of years now and loving every minute of it. I see the photo section is running a bit slow so I may have to add a couple of my conquests to brighten the place up!I have a couple of question but in the fairness of sharing I will let you know a few of my exploits first although I'm sure I'm not sharing anything new!When I first got here I found it pretty easy to just pick up Japanese girls in bars/izakayas etc and had many a memorable night.Then after about 6 months I started hitting Metropolis ads ? this was a bit of a gold mine ? I met 16 Japanese girls over a year that way and slept with 9 of them the first night. Generally I found girls who put ads in Metropolis to be good fun and a bit more openly sexual (wearing g-strings, a couple of shaved pussies, willing to put out etc) than random Japanese girls I met, but they are also more often looking for a boyfriend and can get a bit clingy.Now I am venturing into the pay side of things for a bit of a new experience and this is why I found this forum.I have been to Asian Feeling/Relaxation three times now and will give a quick run down on the girls I had1. This was my first experience for anything like this so I was a bit nervous and didn't know what to expect really. For a first timer, Asian Feeling/Relaxation is very easy. I speak Japanese ok but I'm not very familiar with all the terms used in this world! Getting the service I wanted was not a problem. The girl was Kei, looks ok, minimal English, average massage and happy ending! She let me touch her anywhere and I got her tittys out and played with them during the service.2. This time I had Sala for a 90 minute oil course. Sala is great, very cute, speaks English very well. She gave a great massage with lots of ball rubbing and tickled my asshole as well. She then gave me sumata and then finished me off with her hand. I asked her if I could touch and legs were ok but no boobs. I asked her if she would take her top off but she said it was against the rules. After the massage she gave me her card with her phone email on it ? we emailed a few times and I organized to meet her in a love hotel for another massage. It was all going ok then she backed out at the last minute and said she wanted to meet me at Asian Feeling once more time (fair enough I say!). I haven't seen her since but I think I will request her the next time.3. The last time I went I had Misaki ? no English, reasonably cute, no complaints about the massage or happy ending. Touching was ok and I got both her tittys out and played with them during the massage.Thinking of having a go at Asian Mystique next time as I'm looking for more of a full service next time! I will post details of what happens. I have my eye on Yumika.Now I have a couple of questions if anyone would mind answering. I see lots of Thai massage places around where I work and wouldn't mind checking them out sometime ? how do you know if a happy ending is on the menu? I called a couple of places and tried to ask (rather than risk the embarrassment at the front desk!) but don't know the term to use. Can I expect a happy ending option at most of the dodgy looking Thai massage places around!How about Japanese strip clubs ? are they generally open to gaijin. I am sure they are probably pretty overpriced for what you get but I'm interested to check one out ? any recommendations?Thanks to everyone who reads through all this and I look forward to spending more time on this forum!Spooky

Basementcello

04-02-10, 23:17

Great report Takadondon,I just want to say how great it is to read a report about something different to the usual places people visit. I myself have tried happy mail. It becomes a bit expensive contacting girls through their website, though I did meet one girl in Koiwa through the site. She was young and most definitely an amateur. Keep up the good work.If you up your Japanese skill, the sky is the limit. I know some guys are frustrated with the level of discrimination in Japan and like to complain on this forum, but thats just the way it is. Only by putting some effort in and working the system can you conquer the mongering scene in Japan. Deai cafes and websites are one way to do this. More good reports to come I hope!
I tried both happy mail and kirara cafe today and figured it may be of interest for some people. To be clear, I'm Japanese American and I speak passable Japanese for casual situations so I've never experienced the rejections others on this board may be getting. For those who are foreigners who can speak/read/write Japanese though, I don't think these options are necessarily closed to you. Believe somebody else has posted about Kirara in the past about their successes.

AussieGaigin

04-03-10, 05:43

Irony Monger

04-03-10, 07:18

Since this is going to be costing a good amount of money, if I go into the lobby and look at the pictures (understanding only certain girls are gaijin friendly), and I don't like what I'm offered, is there a polite way to say that I'm not interested?When I went to Martini Soapland, the guy who showed me the pictures made a point of asking if the selection was ok, and gave me multiple chances to back out if I so wished (I did not), so I would imagine it would be ok, just be very polite about it. Most of the soaplands have websites with pictures of the girls that are working that day...I would assume the easiest way to back out would be to print out the picture of the girl you want and show it to them, and if she is unavailable (or won't serve gaijin), they should understand if politely refuse who they offer instead.

Jpn Dude

04-03-10, 12:10

2. This time I had Sala for a 90 minute oil course. Sala is great, very cute, speaks English very well. She gave a great massage with lots of ball rubbing and tickled my asshole as well. She then gave me sumata and then finished me off with her hand. I asked her if I could touch and legs were ok but no boobs. I asked her if she would take her top off but she said it was against the rules. After the massage she gave me her card with her phone email on it ? we emailed a few times and I organized to meet her in a love hotel for another massage. It was all going ok then she backed out at the last minute and said she wanted to meet me at Asian Feeling once more time (fair enough I say!). I haven't seen her since but I think I will request her the next time.Sara just returned from Thailand a few days ago. She started working on Thursday. She's a fun gal! Have a good time. ;-)

Evan Stoner

04-03-10, 16:39

If you up your Japanese skill, the sky is the limit. I know some guys are frustrated with the level of discrimination in Japan and like to complain on this forum, but that's just the way it is. Only by putting some effort in and working the system can you conquer the mongering scene in Japan.Second that.ES

Tokyo Dude

04-04-10, 04:20

Backtobasics

04-04-10, 08:11

I guess many people are familiar with this:http://zuva.jp/topbut I only chanced upon it today. It works well (meaning: it doesn't break) through Google translate.It's quite an eye-opener.

Backtobasics

04-04-10, 08:18

Anyone met Gorgeous Japanese oriental model - w4m - 29 (Central Tokyo) advertising on craigslist, offering same service as AM but looks a bit hotter than their girls:http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/1666317179.htmlIf no bad reports, I think I will take one for the team.Good luck 'dude', I look forward to your field report. I have read her ads a couple of times, but never had the 'balls' to give her a try.I guess I am just getting too old and stuck in my ways, but once I find someone who I know will come up with the goods, even if they are not 'hot', I opt for them again, before taking the chance on something like the craigslist 'women'. What is it with those 'hot oil' massages on CL anyway? Is it code for FS, or do you have to pay the ?, and then discover for yourself if it's code or not?

Prius Driver

04-05-10, 00:10

I see lots of Thai massage places around where I work and wouldn't mind checking them out sometime ? how do you know if a happy ending is on the menu? I called a couple of places and tried to ask (rather than risk the embarrassment at the front desk!) but don't know the term to use. Can I expect a happy ending option at most of the dodgy looking Thai massage places around!I've been to quite a few Thai massage places and to answer your question, no you can't expect a happy ending at any of them except the Asian group. I tried Misspuke (http://misspuke.com/) a few times a few years ago and they had a "testes massage". They would only massage the balls but not touch anything else. It might be different now since they have changed their options menu and you might be able to get a happy ending. I also tried Mangosteen (http://mangosteen.jp/index.html) but I had to do the deed myself. But then again YMMV.

Friendly Gaijin

04-05-10, 10:50

I have posted a number of times on strip clubs in this thread, as have some other gentlemen. Searching will give some basic info.I had never any problems to get in, though I remember a discussion on the BBS of TS Music some years ago where customers were asking for such restrictions. TS Music makes a lot of profit from Chinese tourist groups lately, as I noted in an earlier post.Prices are both the lowest and highest in the industry. If you just get in for the first show and stay there all day, you get around 12 hours for 3.000 to 4.000 Yen.On the other hand, buying fotos at 500 a shot is at the high end if you think in price per second.
How about Japanese strip clubs ? are they generally open to gaijin. I am sure they are probably pretty overpriced for what you get but I'm interested to check one out ? any recommendations?Spooky

Gime Shoyubunny

04-05-10, 14:23

Went to jan jan last week. However, I'll keep this it short.Girl. 23Name. AkiBody and face. 8/10Real squeaky voice and real mechanical. Dfk, she didn't let me touch the puppies but she did let me play with the kitty. Didn't go deep like aki but she did her job. Real chatty girl with no GFE.Otsuka Hi top.Girl. Says shes 27 but more like 35Name? "M" somethingBody and face. 6/10Got in the room and went straight to dfk. Took of the clothes and headed over to the shower where she played with my buddy. Went back to the room and more dfk. She proceeded to give me BBBJ and then cfs. Really good technique but had to think of another girl to finish. Sweet girl but will not repeat.

Fried Luke

04-05-10, 17:10

I guess many people are familiar with this:http://zuva.jp/topbut I only chanced upon it today. It works well (meaning: it doesn't break) through Google translate.Has anyone here that is fluent in Japanese corrected the japanese->english translations that Google translate provides?Google translate appears to be a learning service, so if enough phrases are corrected, the english->japanese translation should become markedly better.

Backtobasics

04-05-10, 22:39

Has anyone here that is fluent in Japanese corrected the japanese->english translations that Google translate provides?Google translate appears to be a learning service, so if enough phrases are corrected, the english->japanese translation should become markedly better.I am always amused by the Google translations ...That listing site worked well for me > I discovered dens of sin in Machida I never knew about! I gambled and emailed several, in English, asking if non-Japanese speaking gaijin would be welcomed. Mostly no reply, but got a reply from a Korean-owned chain with 3 shops (but mostly the same women):- filthy sluts- SM- transvestite something or another .. (this is where Google really let me down, and I couldn't make head or tail of it! I think it means you go and dress up as a woman, while they hit you ...)Found this too, but have yet to visit them to see if gaijins are OK. The mat play looks fun, and one has to hope it's FS.http://matde-y-jo.com/top.html

Aake04

04-06-10, 06:47

Hello,I have visited once in the Asian Feeling and once in the Asian Relax. Services in the both places were normal and girls were pretty. Anyhow they did not took their clothes off at all so I prefer more Korean massage type places where I visited last time.In that Korean Health place (near Nippori Station, 35. 728648, 139. 772277) I took 1 hour massage. There was also longer services available. Service was first washing and rubbing the skin in the shower room. Girl was with clothes on there. Then back to the massage place where not actual massage was not provided. It was masage using hot towels and walking over these towels. After that girl went out to the room and game back. I was still laying faced down and she took her clothes on and gave me a little massage using her body. Then turn around and she used her body and breast to give some massage. After while she came beside me and start to give massage to my genital area. She let me touch her breast and body. After finishing, she laid with me a little while and took me shower again.Experience was much better than Asian Feeling/Relax before you can get girl naked, so I would like to find similar places also somewhere else which is not so "far away north". I am pure gaijin so place should be gaijin friendly.If you can give google coordinates I would really appreciate that!EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Kerfuffle

04-06-10, 09:07

Take it for what it's worth, but the TR site (and its JASPO section specifically) is always entertaining, to say the least:http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2010/03/28/tokyo-pink-salons-providing-delectable-deri-heru-substitute/Tokyo pink salons providing delectable deri heru substituteMarch 28, 2010Shukan Jitsuwa Apr. 8This claim from a fuzoku writer ? that is, one specializing in the sex industry ? sounded far too appealing for Shukan Jitsuwa (Apr. 8) to ignore: ?There?s a pink salon in Otsuka serving more than 200 customers a day. In this economy, that is unbelievable.?Naturally, the tabloid felt obligated to investigate the premises, located in Tokyo?s Toshima Ward ? no name for the establishment is given but a Google search reveals a few candidates ? and discovered that Japan?s ongoing deflation has sent cash-strapped patrons stampeding to pink salons in favor of deri heru (out-call) sex services.For the uninitiated, a pink salon supplies non-coital sexual services, while deri heru call girls are a bit more comprehensive.?Since last summer, fuzoku prices have fallen like a rock,? says that same sex scribe. ?In Tokyo, standard deri heru fees have dropped from 15,000 yen for 60 minutes to 10,000 yen for 40 minutes. The smaller outlay is appealing to customers. But these days, even that can?t top the reasonable fees charged by a pink salon.?Unlike deri heru, prices have not changed, but the services rendered have been boosted. Patrons can now expect turns with three different ladies ? referred to as 花びら回転 (hanabirakaiten, or literally flower petal rotation) ? an increase over the two that was once the industry standard.?Otsuka and Kichijoji are hot spots,? explains a sports shimbun editor. ?Lines form in the morning. Office ladies walking through the areas wonder: ?What is going on?? Of course, they don?t get any answers.?The article says that back in the day the reputation of a pink salon was not high, with the staff mainly being comprised of middle-aged ladies. However, younger gals are entering the trade, spurned on by the recent popularity. ?For sure, the quality is increasing,? says a pink club manager in Tokyo. ?They are college girls, freshmen or recent graduates, aged in their early twenties. During interviews it is possible to pick and choose quality talent at will.?The customers are not the only ones benefiting from this boom. ?The girls get paid on an hourly basis ? usually 3,000 yen per hour plus 500 yen per customer,? says that same fuzoku writer. ?With the deri heru business struggling and pay being based on a per-customer basis, gals are looking for locked-in income.?Shukan Jitsuwa salivates at the prospect of a literal tongue lashing laid out by a cute lass for a mere 3,000 yen ? the perfect stress release. (A.T.)Source: ?Kaiki. Gyoretsu ga. Deki hajimeta pin saron ninki,? Shukan Jitsuwa (Apr. 8, pages 210-211)Note: Brief extracts from Japanese vernacular media in the public domain that appear here were translated and summarized under the principle of ?fair use.? Every effort has been made to ensure accuracy of the translations. However, we are not responsible for the veracity of their contents. The activities of individuals described herein should not be construed as ?typical? behavior of Japanese people nor reflect the intention to portray the country in a negative manner. Our sole aim is to provide examples of various types of reading matter enjoyed by Japanese.

Backtobasics

04-06-10, 14:47

Great article > that's where I got the link to the 'pink' directory.
Take it for what it's worth, but the TR site (and its JASPO section specifically) is always entertaining, to say the least:http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2010/03/28/tokyo-pink-salons-providing-delectable-deri-heru-substitute/Tokyo pink salons providing delectable deri heru substituteMarch 28, 2010Shukan Jitsuwa Apr. 8This claim from a fuzoku writer ? that is, one specializing in the sex industry ? sounded far too appealing for Shukan Jitsuwa (Apr. 8) to ignore: ?There?s a pink salon in Otsuka serving more than 200 customers a day. In this economy, that is unbelievable.?Naturally, the tabloid felt obligated to investigate the premises, located in Tokyo?s Toshima Ward ? no name for the establishment is given but a Google search reveals a few candidates ? and discovered that Japan?s ongoing deflation has sent cash-strapped patrons stampeding to pink salons in favor of deri heru (out-call) sex services.For the uninitiated, a pink salon supplies non-coital sexual services, while deri heru call girls are a bit more comprehensive.?Since last summer, fuzoku prices have fallen like a rock,? says that same sex scribe. ?In Tokyo, standard deri heru fees have dropped from 15,000 yen for 60 minutes to 10,000 yen for 40 minutes. The smaller outlay is appealing to customers. But these days, even that can?t top the reasonable fees charged by a pink salon.?Unlike deri heru, prices have not changed, but the services rendered have been boosted. Patrons can now expect turns with three different ladies ? referred to as 花びら回転 (hanabirakaiten, or literally flower petal rotation) ? an increase over the two that was once the industry standard.?Otsuka and Kichijoji are hot spots,? explains a sports shimbun editor. ?Lines form in the morning. Office ladies walking through the areas wonder: ?What is going on?? Of course, they don?t get any answers.?The article says that back in the day the reputation of a pink salon was not high, with the staff mainly being comprised of middle-aged ladies. However, younger gals are entering the trade, spurned on by the recent popularity. ?For sure, the quality is increasing,? says a pink club manager in Tokyo. ?They are college girls, freshmen or recent graduates, aged in their early twenties. During interviews it is possible to pick and choose quality talent at will.?The customers are not the only ones benefiting from this boom. ?The girls get paid on an hourly basis ? usually 3,000 yen per hour plus 500 yen per customer,? says that same fuzoku writer. ?With the deri heru business struggling and pay being based on a per-customer basis, gals are looking for locked-in income.?Shukan Jitsuwa salivates at the prospect of a literal tongue lashing laid out by a cute lass for a mere 3,000 yen ? the perfect stress release. (A.T.)Source: ?Kaiki. Gyoretsu ga. Deki hajimeta pin saron ninki,? Shukan Jitsuwa (Apr. 8, pages 210-211)Note: Brief extracts from Japanese vernacular media in the public domain that appear here were translated and summarized under the principle of ?fair use.? Every effort has been made to ensure accuracy of the translations. However, we are not responsible for the veracity of their contents. The activities of individuals described herein should not be construed as ?typical? behavior of Japanese people nor reflect the intention to portray the country in a negative manner. Our sole aim is to provide examples of various types of reading matter enjoyed by Japanese.

Basementcello

04-06-10, 22:57

Herpes

04-07-10, 04:13

Well you're not lucky, because at Asian Feeling, I got the girls naked and FS. (read my report)Maybe too late for you, but when entering this kind of shop, because they can't tell you Honban is allowed (though you may ask.) you can ask first:"Sa-bi-su (service) Dou desuka ??"
Hello,I have visited once in the Asian Feeling and once in the Asian Relax. Services in the both places were normal and girls were pretty. Anyhow they did not took their clothes off at all so I prefer more Korean massage type places where I visited last time.In that Korean Health place (near Nippori Station, 35. 728648, 139. 772277) I took 1 hour massage. There was also longer services available. Service was first washing and rubbing the skin in the shower room. Girl was with clothes on there. Then back to the massage place where not actual massage was not provided. It was masage using hot towels and walking over these towels. After that girl went out to the room and game back. I was still laying faced down and she took her clothes on and gave me a little massage using her body. Then turn around and she used her body and breast to give some massage. After while she came beside me and start to give massage to my genital area. She let me touch her breast and body. After finishing, she laid with me a little while and took me shower again.Experience was much better than Asian Feeling/Relax before you can get girl naked, so I would like to find similar places also somewhere else which is not so "far away north". I am pure gaijin so place should be gaijin friendly.If you can give google coordinates I would really appreciate that!EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Member #3439

04-07-10, 05:36

J-Compatriots,In the past I've been one of the skeptics on the board about STI risk at Jan-Jan and the like. Not any more. My colleague was at Hi-Top a few weeks ago and had BBBJ with CFS from a Chinese girl there who was picking at her lips. He spent the next couple of weeks at Jan-Jan getting BBBJ almost every third day, from most of the staff. Now last week he experienced a raging HSV initial shedding which is directly attributable to the Hi Top girl who was shedding from the lips. So this means that most of the girls at Jan-Jan might also have HSV. I would not even let one of these girls blow my dog given the situation, no way, so hope that you fine gentlemen will take heed and allow time for the J-J staff to rotate out to fresh mouths.Take care,-PP

Paristokyo

04-07-10, 09:55

Hi Herpes,(love your nickname by the way).Where is your report on Asian feeling/relax and the full service you got there? Can't find it.I wanna go this weekend so would like to get your feedback before reportingGood and safe punting

Dung20

04-07-10, 14:45

Hi,I just looked thru your reports but couldn't find your one on asian feeling. Interested to know which girl offered what you mentioned. I'm guessing Yuki? Nataly I'm thinking no way, although she did ask me to take her out to dinner.
Well you're not lucky, because at Asian Feeling, I got the girls naked and FS. (read my report)Maybe too late for you, but when entering this kind of shop, because they can't tell you Honban is allowed (though you may ask.) you can ask first:"Sa-bi-su (service) Dou desuka ??"

Herpes

04-07-10, 16:09

Well, I'm not the only one to get this sh*t stuff it seems!Went to Gotanda's pinsaro today and asked for gum again. But finished without for the big ending. I hope I won't regret it. But at least diminishing the risk. Some people are more sensitive than others, some are even immune.But don't fool yourself: there are many of STDs around, hopefully not much VIH, though there MUST be some around. So beware.BTW service was excellent as usual today. But waiting time a bit too long.
J-Compatriots,In the past I've been one of the skeptics on the board about STI risk at Jan-Jan and the like. Not any more. My colleague was at Hi-Top a few weeks ago and had BBBJ with CFS from a Chinese girl there who was picking at her lips. He spent the next couple of weeks at Jan-Jan getting BBBJ almost every third day, from most of the staff. Now last week he experienced a raging HSV initial shedding which is directly attributable to the Hi Top girl who was shedding from the lips. So this means that most of the girls at Jan-Jan might also have HSV. I would not even let one of these girls blow my dog given the situation, no way, so hope that you fine gentlemen will take heed and allow time for the J-J staff to rotate out to fresh mouths.Take care,-PP

Aake04

04-08-10, 08:37

I would like also try that place. Could you give me a google map coordinates for the place?
Yesterday, on my way home from the airport I stopped off for a massage in Otsuka. I had a really long week in the states, due to a family emergency, with almost no time to myself, late nights and little sleep. I was beat after a long day of travel and I just wanted some relaxation. As I was transferring at Otsuka anyway, I decided to pop out for a massage. I walked to the north east of the station and went into one of the many Korean massage places. I opted for the 70min ?12,000 akasuri course as I'd never tried it before. I was told I could switch girls for an extra ?1,000 - the price of choosing in person (本指名). The girl who I was given, however, was cute enough although kind of chubby, maybe a 6, but since I wasn't really looking for anything but a good massage, I didn't care.She started out with some massage on the table - laughing and swatting my hand away whenever I touched her ass or titties. Then she took me into the shower room, laid me out on a table and scrubbed me all over with a sort of abrasive glove. After that she washed me down and played with my cock a bit. Then she said let's go finish in the other room. She took me back to the first room laid me down, gave me a bit of a rubdown and then told me to wait while she took a shower. She came back into the room in a towel, took it off and climbed onto the massage bed with me. She rubbed her tits and her paipan pussy all over me and started to play with my cock. I asked if I could eat her pussy and she lay down on the bed. I ate her pussy until I was pretty horny then lubed it up for some sumata. I hadn't touched a girl all week, so I came pretty fast. But she wanted to get me off again, so she lay me on my back and started stroking my cock. Once she got it hard again, she started really going to work on it. She climbed on for some 69. Since I was taking a long time, we went for some FS. After I blew my load a second time, she took me back into the shower and washed me off. Then she gave me a hard massage for the last few minutes of my time, reminding me over and over again not to say anything and that honban is a no go. Slept like a baby, happy to be back in Japan.

Herpes

04-08-10, 11:00

Its report #6672
I think I reported ont that one already.http://www.este-feel.com/top.html1mn from Nishi-Nippori station, very easy to find. Photos are real but heavily photoshopped (like on the similar sites). Girl looks are 4, 5 /10 at best. I went 3 times.1st time I had a 2*35mn course (13, 000 yens if I remember well) with 2 different girls. Both massage + CBJ + FS.One of the girls (Yumi) seemed to like me a lot, (I was her first gaijin so she was pretty excited) so I came back another time just spend time with her.That was very enjoyable indeed and very GFE with her.3rd time I came, Yumi wasnt there, was serviced by Bani. She was chubby and not great looking and not very into it. I had difficulties to get a hard-on. Though we finally got to FS, but then she looked like a robot, and not liking it at all. That deflated my willie so I had to finish with HJ. Not a likeable experience. But for the 60mn 7, 500 (new discount) course, the bad quality of the service may have been on purpose? 1 hit / 1 miss. I don't think I'll go there anymore. And I don't think I'll try this kind of place if I don't feel that day like an animal ready to f*ck anything anyway. I've had similar problems lately alas. But for other people, its really a conveniently located, cheap and rather clean place to FS with a massage.For japanese readers, www.fuzoku. Jp has plenty of DH & Este ads all over Japan. Prices in Nippori are overall cheap and the joints are 1mn from the JR or Chiyoda station which make it very convenient (for example vs Shibuya where love hotels are far from the Station)
Hi Herpes,(love your nickname by the way).Where is your report on Asian feeling/relax and the full service you got there? Can't find it.I wanna go this weekend so would like to get your feedback before reportingGood and safe punting

Prius Driver

04-08-10, 15:14

Nataly I'm thinking no way, although she did ask me to take her out to dinner.When I had Nataly only the one time, she refused to show me her breasts telling me that she has never shown them to anyone in the shop. She did tell me that she had a Canadian bf that she met while working there though. Although that was quite a long time ago now.

Captain Napalm

04-08-10, 17:49

Thanks for the heads up, heading to Nippon next week, guess I wont swing by Jan-Jan this time around...
I would not even let one of these girls blow my dog given the situation, no way, so hope that you fine gentlemen will take heed and allow time for the J-J staff to rotate out to fresh mouths.Take care,-PP

Cluster99

04-08-10, 21:43

I thought Machida was dead, where did you find stuff
I am always amused by the Google translations.That listing site worked well for me > I discovered dens of sin in Machida I never knew about! I gambled and emailed several, in English, asking if non-Japanese speaking gaijin would be welcomed. Mostly no reply, but got a reply from a Korean-owned chain with 3 shops (but mostly the same women):- filthy sluts- SM- transvestite something or another .. (this is where Google really let me down, and I couldn't make head or tail of it! I think it means you go and dress up as a woman, while they hit you ...)Found this too, but have yet to visit them to see if gaijins are OK. The mat play looks fun, and one has to hope it's FS.http://matde-y-jo.com/top.html

West Chair

04-09-10, 04:09

May I know what is this korean place that you mentioned? Is it Este Feel?
In that Korean Health place (near Nippori Station, 35. 728648, 139. 772277) I took 1 hour massage. There was also longer services available. Service was first washing and rubbing the skin in the shower room. Girl was with clothes on there. Then back to the massage place where not actual massage was not provided. It was masage using hot towels and walking over these towels. After that girl went out to the room and game back. I was still laying faced down and she took her clothes on and gave me a little massage using her body. Then turn around and she used her body and breast to give some massage. After while she came beside me and start to give massage to my genital area. She let me touch her breast and body. After finishing, she laid with me a little while and took me shower again.Experience was much better than Asian Feeling/Relax before you can get girl naked, so I would like to find similar places also somewhere else which is not so "far away north". I am pure gaijin so place should be gaijin friendly.If you can give google coordinates I would really appreciate that!EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Member #3439

04-09-10, 07:17

Thanks for the heads up, heading to Nippon next week, guess I wont swing by Jan-Jan this time around...Yes, you don't want any Jan-Jan right now..and especially not Hi-Top. Try Gotanda pinsaros or Hinomaru. But don't pay to select a girl at Hinomaru in Kabukicho. Let them bring you whatever at ~half that price. Last year I went there and paid extra to select a girl from the pictures. The picture was obviously of her daughter..and the sideways corn-on-the-cob blowjob felt like an alien poking at my body. I miss good old fashioned western girl deep throat gobbling and rhythm when in Japan. Pinsaro girls routinely want to do some weird shit like rubbing against their closed teeth, using teeth, and sucking on the side of it, making obscene sucking sounds that can be heard all around the place.Apologies on behalf of my colleague for infesting Jan-Jan. He did not know that he was infected until after seeding half of Jan Jan and BBFS'ing some poor SEA girls elsewhere that were just trying to earn money for food and shelter and now will be infected for life with something that they can probably not even afford to medicate.The break out timing was such that Hi-Top is clearly the place where he picked up the HSV and, although he covered for FS, it was apparently contracted from DFK or BBBJ. Now on his second Japanese STI in a year, he hates Japan for having a culture where most clean P4P pussy is off limits to gaijin and gaijin are generally forced into places like this with unclean quarters and unclean pussy. In the future, he promises to exact revenge by making valiant efforts to regift this to the non-pro scene so that Japanese men can reap what they have sown for gaijin with their segregation practices. The ethics of this are somewhat unsavory, but he is a real meat head and I can do nothing to convince him otherwise.

Zcorps

04-09-10, 07:43

In the future, he promises to exact revenge by making valiant efforts to regift this to the non-pro scene so that Japanese men can reap what they have sown for gaijin. The ethics of this are somewhat unsavory, but he is a real meat head and I can do nothing to convince him otherwise.Oh please cut off his dick or something. I date those girls, I don't need him spreading the herp to girls I might be trying to nampa.In all seriousness Japan probably doesn't need someone so spiteful that they'd harm innocent people. He's the kind of foreigner that ruin it for the rest of us.

Member #3439

04-09-10, 07:48

Oh please cut off his dick or something. I date those girls, I don't need him spreading the herp to girls I might be trying to nampa.In all seriousness Japan probably doesn't need someone so spiteful that they'd harm innocent people. He's the kind of foreigner that ruin it for the rest of us.Don't worry too much, he doesn't come to Tokyo often and hangs out mainly in Kansai. It would be probably be nearly impossible to actually introduce something new to a civilian in Kansai, as with the conditions that salarymen monger in down there, most of their gf's probably have the full menu of STI anyway...Dirty South...haha. The Tobita Shinchi RLD has more crabs than Tsukiji Market, I can vouch for that fact based on personal experience.

Tokyohomeboy

04-09-10, 08:07

A bit of a long shot here, but does anyone have experience of going to orgy parties or Happening bars at all?I've been several times to Silk in Kabukicho with a girlfriend as well as to Beauty and Beast before it closed. Most clubs allow single men for a higher fee of 15-20K. I never saw much full swapping. Sometimes guys will invite others to feel up their girl but that's about it. The only times I saw a single guy invited for sex was at Silk but the guy was super fit and muscular. The husband happily watched his wife get nailed. The swapping I saw was only couple to couple, and even then there was not much of it.

Tokyohomeboy

04-09-10, 09:21

most of our favorite haunts were closed:Kagi, an upscale club in Roppongi: ClosedKagi was the most wonderful place in the world. Great looking people, clean and upmarket place, many couples open to mutual touch if not actual swapping. Nothing now comes close.

Member #3439

04-09-10, 09:33

Kagi was the most wonderful place in the world. Great looking people, clean and upmarket place, many couples open to mutual touch if not actual swapping. Nothing now comes close.If they were there then, they must be someplace else now and you just have to find it! :) Pervs don't quit being pervs and go take up a vanilla hobby for an outlet..they just feed their addiction somewhere else. Like the adult bookstores where guys take their wives to do glory holes or be gang banged by the whole store..these places get shut down and they move to another one. Some will drive as much as 150 km to reach equivalent places if their 'home' gets shut down.

Bijinnampa

04-09-10, 13:53

Hello, mongers,Anyone tried the Ueno Chinese FS places busty-p, peach or hureai?Am eager to try them out during the w. E. BTW are the ladies much.Photoshopped?Also, albeit there are great young ladies out there in "honjitsu inverse", got pretty interested in the maruhi-denhetsu DH / HotelHealth in gotanda with experienced ladies. The website is lovely and if they deliver half of it (and to gaijins.) it would be great. Anyone has experience of that place?Otherwise can share a recent visit to UCLA little bear. Had to wait a looooong time. Then had a nice girl (first gaijin she claimed., nihon go de dake). Nice BJ, sumata., managed two shots in the time permitted, nice chat afterwards. Giggly girl.A 1000 yen "gaijin addition".Keep on humpin. AND treat the ladies with respect!

Captain Napalm

04-09-10, 15:48

Probably won't hit either of these places as my Japanese is near nonexistent. I happened to stumble upon Jan Jan when wandering the streets of Sugamo (I stay with friends in Komagome, a stop away) a tout invited me in. The others didn't even bother looking at me.I have a couple of friends there that'll take care of me, I only hit the pink salon for the experience.Sorry to hear about your friend, dude.
Yes, you don't want any Jan-Jan right now..and especially not Hi-Top. Try Gotanda pinsaros or Hinomaru. But don't pay to select a girl at Hinomaru in Kabukicho.

Gaienmae08

04-09-10, 17:36

Tokyohomeboy

04-10-10, 04:41

I think the first time I was in Hot Point was in 1990. Nice to see that they haven't changed a single piece of the "decor" since then. After reading Dung20's report (#7014), I decided to go again and try Haruka who he raved about. I got there on a Saturday at about 10:30am. Big mistake - there were 7 guys already there. I paid my 2K, handed over my mobile phone and told the guy I wanted Haruka. I waited about 15 minutes in the waiting area before going to my booth. Haruka was the dancer and did a nice strip tease which got my motor running. There were 2 girls working and the second one was cute but I think every punter requested Haruka, which meant that I had to wait about 30 minutes for my turn. Sitting in that tiny cubicle watching the reflection of a Japanese porno in the mirror is not my idea of a good time. Finally, Haruka turned up. She was very apologetic about the wait. I told her in Japanese that I thought she forgot about me and went home. Kudos to you Dung20, she was great. She was very pretty: white skin, big tits. She quickly took of her, gave me a big hug and let me fondle those wonderful jugs. I paid for the blow job so after running her hand over my legs and crotch she pulled out a condom and got to it. She does have a good technique. When she saw me playing with my own nipples she slid her hands up and took over. Halfway through the blowjob she stood up, sucked my nipples and wanked me to get me closer to the edge. She then went back down and finished me off. After she joked about the fact that the condom only covered half my dick. She asked if I ever had a Japanese girlfriend and she insisted it would never fit in her. Had to remind her that a baby comes out of there so I'm sure my cock would be able to fit.She gave me another big hug, had no problem as I felt her breasts again and gave me a discount card. Took a long time, but I walked out with a smile on my face.If you go, definitely listen to Dung20's advise and walk out if there are more than 3 people in the waiting room. Haruka seems to work nearly everyday so you'll get your chance.

Member #3439

04-10-10, 05:17

Quick note if it's of interest: recently I have been wandering the streets of Gotanda late in the evening (10pm or later) for professional reasons (working late at a client's office there, hah) and am regularly propositioned by the nice Chinese ladies standing around not just for "massaji" but also on occasion "etchi ok da yo" and one even quoted a price (10,000 yen). Haven't been inclined to take the plunge yet, but the places to look are in the 有楽街 area of pachinko places and general seediness on the east side of the station, and also along the opposite side of the main road leading towards the Siemens building (area between Tullys / the Tipness entrance and the Tokyu building).At night, if you come out of the train station and cross the bridge over the street and just walk around, you'll be over run with touts trying to get you in the shops for 10k. This is the same street where Supergirls is. And for the record, I was there in Gotanda a couple weeks ago and the Supergirls sign still says 'Japanese Only" in permanent letters. I didn't go in anywhere, cause I don't pay 10k without some assurance of what that buys me. If it's HJ or CBJ, I would be pissed. So many girl touts were clinging onto me, once two were grabbing me at once. I should have just propositioned one of them if I knew where a love motel was in the area. Obviously with all their enthusiasm and zeal for touting at low wages, they might make a spirited fuck at 3 times their normal nightly wage. :) Extra points to anyone who scores a female tout. I'll buy you beer the next time I am in Edo.

Azure Knight

04-10-10, 07:05

Don't worry too much, he doesn't come to Tokyo often and hangs out mainly in Kansai. It would be probably be nearly impossible to actually introduce something new to a civilian in Kansai, as with the conditions that salarymen monger in down there, most of their gf's probably have the full menu of STI anyway...Dirty South...haha. The Tobita Shinchi RLD has more crabs than Tsukiji Market, I can vouch for that fact based on personal experience.Okay, that's exactly what I didn't want to hear. On behalf of the Kansai mongers, tell him to take his revenge elsewhere.I've done my fair share of tours in Tobita and haven't caught anything. YMMV?

Azure Knight

04-10-10, 07:20

Gentlemen, A bit of a long shot here, but does anyone have experience of going to orgy parties or Happening bars at all? I have found a list of several places that organise parties around Tokyo. I was thinking of contacting some of them.http://adultyokotyou.h.fc2.com/indexparty/kanntou.htmlThere are some really cool parties in London, where single guys can go and they basically have groups of pros available and you can shag yourself silly. But I wonder if the Tokyo scene is closed off to us foreign mongers? You can PM me if you like.My experience is mostly with the Kansai scene, so I don't know how much of it will translate to Tokyo, but anyway.There are couple kissa and happening bars. At couple kissa, you can only get in as a couple - m/f, and sometimes f/f depending on the place. Happening bar will allow single guys and girls, guys are usually not allowed to come as a group (2 or more). As a single guy, the places you can go within the happening bar will be limited, and you may only get to watch/listen as other people play.As a foreigner, your chances of getting into a hapbar 1st time as a single guy are probably fairly slim. And if you speak no Japanese, forget about it. You will want to go with a girl, as she is not only your ticket in, but your avenue to the fun stuff inside. If you've gone to the hapbar as a couple in the past and the staff knows you/is familiar with you, then maybe you can go by yourself. I actually just recently signed up at a new place here in Osaka, and the staff told me specifically that I wouldn't be able to come as a single guy. Oh well, whatever.If you are in as a single guy, then as I said, the places you can go are limited. You can go into SM rooms and maybe some other areas if you are invited by a couple or something like that. It does happen - some girls like getting teamed up on, or she may take an interest in you being foreign. Or maybe her husband wants to see a foreign guy bang his girl, so he invites you. I've had experience with all these scenarios. Also remember that there will be a bunch of other single Japanese guys there also hoping for the same thing. Your foreignness will either work for you or against you. Just depends on who is there.If you have a date, the possibilities are much greater. You can go into the couple-only rooms. There you can put on a show or just watch others. Swapping will depend on who is there - some couples just want to do their own thing, some are pros. In general, rather than going straight to banging your girl, you should start off slow, some light kissing, touching, etc., and do it in a way that shows your target exactly what you are doing. Be inviting. They may inch over closer and start lightly touching her - if neither of you visibly objects, then they'll up the level of touching, and you can transition that into a swap. Again personally, I dunno why but I usually have the best experiences with swapping when there aren't so many people there. Maybe only 1 or 2 other couples, but those couples are into swapping and we have a go at it. Lots of people, and everyone tends to become shy, or just get wrapped up in their own world. Also, the type of girl you bring will dictate a lot of what you can do - my regular partner is over 40, and a great fuck, but the younger guys aren't too interested in her. I've gone to the same place with women who are in their 20's but not quite as attractive/active, but gotten a much better response from the couples there. Parties...unless you find a really open group, your chances of being able to go as a stranger foreigner will also be really low. Again, you will either want to have the Japanese date, or become friends with some people you meet at a hapbar/couple kissa, and then if they are involved in any private parties then you can join on their recommendation.

Young Cow

04-10-10, 08:59

May I know what is this korean place that you mentioned? Is it Este Feel?Was there two weeks ago, third time and this time the girl asked for additional Y3, 000 and received FS. I was surprised as my Japanese isn't that great, but she started with BBJ and then slipped on a cover and then got on top for the ride then mis. And then doggy. Was great. Will be back.

Member #3439

04-10-10, 09:51

Also, the type of girl you bring will dictate a lot of what you can do - my regular partner is over 40, and a great fuck, but the younger guys aren't too interested in her. I've gone to the same place with women who are in their 20's but not quite as attractive/active, but gotten a much better response from the couples there. I think there is an elephant in the room. :) It seems more important to know where you found a young a single Japanese girl that is kinky enough to go to the places. Please tell how you found those. After that, getting into the hapbars and couplas seems easy in comparison.

Naniwan

04-10-10, 12:40

hangs out mainly in Kansai... .I concur with AK. Tell him to think about what he's doing for other Kansai based gaijin mongers. If he can't see why, he can feel free stop by my gym (shooto or powerlifting, I don't really mind) so I can educate as to why this is a bad idea.

Herpes

04-10-10, 13:46

Tried once a while ago to call Maruhi cause I liked their website, but they said no foreigners. You can try your chance. I'd like this kind of girls as well.Found another site (thanks www.Fuzoku.jp or zuva.jp) think called Qs & Ms.(?) with nice photos. I think I'll try my chance someday.I've tried minisuka (see my report) as well. But young ladies. There was another shop in the same building than minisuka. Maybe older ladies?
Hello, mongers,Anyone tried the Ueno Chinese FS places busty-p, peach or hureai?Am eager to try them out during the w. E. BTW are the ladies much.Photoshopped?Also, albeit there are great young ladies out there in "honjitsu inverse", got pretty interested in the maruhi-denhetsu DH / HotelHealth in gotanda with experienced ladies. The website is lovely and if they deliver half of it (and to gaijins.) it would be great. Anyone has experience of that place?Otherwise can share a recent visit to UCLA little bear. Had to wait a looooong time. Then had a nice girl (first gaijin she claimed., nihon go de dake). Nice BJ, sumata., managed two shots in the time permitted, nice chat afterwards. Giggly girl.A 1000 yen "gaijin addition".Keep on humpin. AND treat the ladies with respect!

Monger1313

04-10-10, 14:35

Whilst prepping for a short and unexpected business trip to Japan, I closely read the forum and was intrigued by all the discussion of how to find Supergirls. I got on Google Earth and found the locomotive without trouble. It simplified part one of the sortie as my hotel was in the area and I wouldn't have to navigate the underground system at all.But that is just background. I was with a fluid group and straying from the pack was not on. Most left by Wednesday and on Thursday I was down to one trusted buddy. We found the locomotive at Shimbashi Station and the neighborhood across the street. We decided to settle on a massage. He is a cheapskate; I am less so. After a neighborhood sushi-sashimi and sake dinner (less than ?15 a head, not bad) at a salaryman dive, we split up. He went for the street gals, who were offering a ?5, 000 massagi at 9 pm A little negotiation got that down to ?3, 000. But, as he found out, it was a ten minute in and out and the gal never even took off her topcoat! He was not amused but had the good sense not to make a scene. I on the other hand climbed the stairs to a massage parlour on a cross street and paid ?10, 000 for was promised to be a one hour sensual massage. She lied about sensual. The massage itself was very good until the flip (45 minutes into the deal), at which time the upsell came. Another ?5, 000 was required and it was obvious that there would be no roaming, etc. The upsell had destroyed my mood and I politely but firmly told the gal to continue on with her excellent FBM and we'd skip any erotic content. And so it was. Caveat emptor where Shimbashi massage is concerned.By Friday evening I was on my own and opted for an outcall service. TMS-Massage. Google it for the website. I called about 1700 and set up a massage with all the trimmings for 2100. (A massage is morally OK; FS is not. My quirk.) The scheduler spoke good English and, having ascertained that I was logged on and looking at the photos, told me who was working my area (Ginza) that evening and asked which lassie I'd prefer. I chose Yoko. She showed up five minutes early and called for me to meet her in the lobby as the hotel lift will only respond to the guest's key card. Went off without a hitch. I offered Yoko (a petite, dark minx of perfect proportions for her height, perhaps 1. 55 m) a drink, a glass of wine, which seemed to floor her, and she accepted with alacrity, declaring that she "liked to drink". Usually it was red wine but she was willing to learn about whites! It was a good ice breaker. A few minutes later was the usual joint shower with mutual soaping, naughty bits included. The massage was everything it was advertised to B. On the flip, I opted for a break and started massaging her, then swung into DATY, which she loved, and went on for quite an enthusiastic while. She allowed that though it was forbidden, FS could happen for a ?10, 000 tip off book, between her and me. I was not interested, but filed the intel for the report. The finish was extraordinary, with her using her partially shaved cat on my Willy to bring me to climax. After a hot towel clean-up (thank god 5-star hotels go overboard on towels), she resumed massaging with a killer foot, then scalp massage. She was not a clock watcher and I reckon I got an extra ten minutes out of the deal. Sorry to see her go.Saturday was a free day, good weather, and cultural pursuits (honest) kept me busy until about 1700, after which I decided to check out Supergirls. Finding it has been discussed endlessly and made needlessly complicated. Go to Shimbashi Station, west courtyard, and spot the locomotive (Engine CII 292, if it matters). It is impossible to miss. It sits in the middle of a red brick enclosure. Walk to the head of the locomotive; it will be over your right shoulder. You will be at a zebra crosswalk. Cross the street. The side street (it is not an alley) that is just two meters to your left, is the Supergirls street. It (SG) is on the right 50 meters or so along.I got there at 1745 and a tout immediately lit on me. A 60 year old white male which can't even say good-bye (sayonara) in Japanese. He had me down the stairs in a flash. The tariff was still ?6, 000, plus a ?2, 000 ticket fee, whatever that is. (At 1800 it rises by one thousand.) Fair enough, this was research. I paid. The tout explained in broken but decent English what the deal was, laid down the ground rules, washed my hands in sanitizer, sprayed my mouth the an aerosol mouth wash, and took me inside, settling me in the farthest booth in, on the right. I was the only customer. A glass of ice water soon arrived, followed by a gal whose name never did register. Her English was very limited indeed, but she was enthusiastic and friendly. She was probably a 5+ on a 10 point scale, but had a great body, about 1. 70 m, 50 kg or so, natural hair, very toned. She went through the ritual of laying out all the toweletts, chatting me up, laying out the ground rules once more, and hanging up my jacket. Then, off came my trousers. And, quite a surprise, in one smooth gesture, she removed every stitch on her body. Gone. An artist. Complete freedom to roam, which I took advantage of. Willy responded immediately. She lay on her back across the banquette and me, giving me complete access to whatever I wanted, whilst she twisted her head around to do the deed. If I decided I wanted a little DFK, she'd oblige, keeping her hands busy where they'd do the most good. The experience was unrushed, most enjoyable, and came to a very satisfactory conclusion in 7-10 minutes. Clean-up ensued (those toweletts), rerobing, followed by some conversation. I suppose after another ten minutes the tout (bouncer) arrived to call time (it was probably a half an hour all totaled) and I left with many thanks and sayonaras all around. I would reckon Supergirls is no longer off limits to gaijin.Back to hotel, a deep scrub, yakitori dinner, packing, and then this report. Tomorrow, I fly out, sorry I did not have time to check out the horny housewife, mid-afternoon scene (websites abound). Next trip. Sayonara.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Nutty123

04-10-10, 15:42

Does anyone know the directions to este-feel in Nishi Nippori ?
Its report #6672

Barney Fife

04-10-10, 15:52

I was in need of a little relief this week and was in Meguro, so I decided to try out Baby, http://iyasikobo.com/access.html, a Chinese rub and tug. The reason it is called Baby is that the staff wears Baby Dolls when servicing you. For 60 minutes, the cost was 8000 yen and it was definitely money wasted.I was shown into a typically small massage room that also had a bureau and other amenities most people associate with their bedrooms making the space feel even more crammed. I was introduced to a young girl with a remarkable set of tatas and not too bad on the eyes. I can not remember her name and since the girls' appearance on the website are so photoshopped, I can only hazard a guess her name to be either Emi or Rika. I would not bet money on that guess.The massage was weak and not very skilled. Her bedside manner was about a good as a typical Japanese doctor, poor. The woman was bored when giving me the hand job as she was watching some clock in her brain when giving it. I felt like snapping her fingers to get her attention. I ended taking matters into my own hands as the poor fellow need a better technician to finish the job.I have not had that bad a service in such a long while and I am now wiser for it and I hope you are also.

Prius Driver

04-11-10, 07:44

I've tried minisuka (see my report) as well. But young ladies. There was another shop in the same building than minisuka. Maybe older ladies?There are at least 5 or 6 shops in the minisuka building. I would hazard to guess probably the whole building. I've been to minisuka quite a few times because I love legs and other kinky stuff. Never tried to get FS there and if you wanted that then as mentioned there are others cheaper places you can get it. But it is expensive. The other shops are also similar but with different fetishes.

Xslikx

04-11-10, 12:36

I would reckon Supergirls is no longer off limits to gaijin.Can any other visible gaijin confirm that they have recently be serviced at Supergirls?

Azure Knight

04-11-10, 15:44

I think there is an elephant in the room. :) It seems more important to know where you found a young a single Japanese girl that is kinky enough to go to the places. Please tell how you found those. After that, getting into the hapbars and couplas seems easy in comparison.In all honesty, they found me. My regular partner, the 40 year old, I knew she liked group play from the start so I brought it up one day and she was down for it, of course. The other girls - I used to write an ero blog on mixi, and I would write about my experiences going to the hapbar with the 40 year old. Then I would get messages from girls who had never been but were interested in going - of course not all worked out, but I managed to take a few from that. They messaged me because I had a good mix of experience and the feeling that they could be safe going with me.I think you're going to have to find a girl who is already into the non-regular play from the start. I asked around and did an informal survey, and most of the girls who had an interest in hapbar already liked non-norm sex - BDSM, group, etc., even if they hadn't yet any experience. Or even just the girl who can fuck any guy on a whim. The regular J-girl you pick up off the street and she won't let you fuck her with the lights on - it'll be difficult to get her to that kind of place. The good news is that there's more of this kind of girl than we would expect - its just a matter of finding her, and then giving her the opportunity to let her kink out.I wouldn't say its impossible to get a regular J-girl to go, but its kind of a long shot, a lot of work, and you risk ruining whatever deal you have with her.

Herpes

04-12-10, 04:56

Sweetscent

04-12-10, 09:51

http://qt-m.com/Didn't try it yet. Has anyone tried it here? Gaijin allowed?It says on the recruit page "We reject foreginers at the reception."I don't think they let you in unless you are Asian and very fluent in Japanese.

The Tanuki

04-12-10, 09:57

http://qt-m.com/Advertised at 3,000. Guess its BBBJ+CIM as usual.I found this pinsaro on this website. Very near the station & easy to find. (near the MOS BURGER, behind the station along the Yamanote tracks, on the way to Ebisu Garden Place)Didn't try it yet. Has anyone tried it here? Gaijin allowed?Next to it, before the MOS burger there seems to be a hotel health.Cause I saw a shop called "valentine call" and in the same (old) buildingRooms for rent for 3, 000 yens daytime.Anyone trying?No dice at QT's, as fuckin usual around here. I had a woodie riding the trains over to Meguro just thinking about it. The web site didn't say no gaijin. But the sign by the door sure does. FUCK. The pix of the girls were very nice. All SYT's in their 20's. What a waste that we can't get in...Yes, the "valentine call" place is a terekura. Those are all over. Haven't tried one around Tokyo, but I used one a few times up north in the 90's. No time to pursue that option today. There are several "massaaji" spots right around the same area too. Just ran out of steam when I couldn't get 3 bimbos suckin my cock for a fee that would fit on my Suika. Sigh...Tanuki

Hanamizu

04-12-10, 15:07

I know Natsumi, small world, LOL!
http://qt-m.com/Advertised at 3,000. Guess its BBBJ+CIM as usual.I found this pinsaro on this website. Very near the station & easy to find. (near the MOS BURGER, behind the station along the Yamanote tracks, on the way to Ebisu Garden Place)Didn't try it yet. Has anyone tried it here? Gaijin allowed?Next to it, before the MOS burger there seems to be a hotel health.Cause I saw a shop called "valentine call" and in the same (old) buildingRooms for rent for 3, 000 yens daytime.Anyone trying?

Yamato1

04-12-10, 16:14

I believe this shop is related to the pinsaro in Otsuka called Milky Way.
http://qt-m.com/Advertised at 3,000. Guess its BBBJ+CIM as usual.I found this pinsaro on this website. Very near the station & easy to find. (near the MOS BURGER, behind the station along the Yamanote tracks, on the way to Ebisu Garden Place)Didn't try it yet. Has anyone tried it here? Gaijin allowed?Next to it, before the MOS burger there seems to be a hotel health.Cause I saw a shop called "valentine call" and in the same (old) buildingRooms for rent for 3, 000 yens daytime.Anyone trying?

Otaku

04-13-10, 01:09

The web site didn't say no gaijin. But the sign by the door sure does. FUCK.Actually it does, under "recruit." Also dirty people or totally wasted people. Too bad no one noticed sooner, could have saved you a trip, but anyway sometimes that's where you need to look.Also, I'm really new at this, but I have some anecdotal evidence that you might be able to get into shops more easily if you get them thinking about the money, especially in areas where they don't get many foreigners and don't have a written policy. I tried GlamourGlamour (http://www.yesgrp.com/ibaraki/glamour/index.html) in Mito (kinda a trip from Tokyo but posted here for example purposes - it's actually a big building with all sorts of themed clubs like that) and I was told "Sorry, no" but then "how much can you fork over?" I asked the tout how much would be enough and he said about 20,000 yen, but that wasn't a gaijin surcharge--basically I just needed to buy a lot of service and everyone would be happy. I told him no thanks, that wasn't what I was looking for, I had 20,000 yen but I didn't have 90 minutes.So, I wanna see if this can be applied to other stores. Has anyone ever tried mentioning what they're willing to pay? I also think some of this can be applied to service charges, like swallowing, etc., which is better than paying for nothing.

Zekelk

04-13-10, 17:21

Hi!I just joined a little while ago, and I really like all the info I've been able to find here. I'm going to Japan from August to January, and have some questions.Are there any burusera shops anymore? All reports I can seem to find about them seems to be from around 03-04 or older. Is it even possible to get deriheru (I'm thinking AM or something similar) without a cell phone? Not sure if I'm going to get a cell phone while in Japan. Also, are there any other recommended deriheru agencies with young girls? My Japanese isn't fluent, but I know quite a bit.Thanks!

Otaku

04-13-10, 22:37

According to Japanese Wikipedia they don't really use bloomers in schools anymore, but according to Google there are still a lot of them. They probably shouldn't discriminate any more than a porn store, though I suppose someone might try to explain to you that the clothing you're buying isn't new.Here are a couple:http://www.shopwing.net/map/http://www.rope-baba.com/mobile/docomo/html/syoukai.htmlMost fuzoku will also let you take home the girl's underwear for like 2000 yen, and a some cosplay places will let you take home the clothes for... whatever the costume costs.Japan still has a payphone here and there, you could probably do that.

Mankosuki

04-14-10, 06:10

Good report. Good to hear the positive news about Supergirls too. I did some google searching in Japanese. It seems they allow 2 shots. Is this correct? Maybe that's why they charge 8, 000 yen. Might be interested to try. It did get mixed reviews though (but only found 3 so far).Thanks
Saturday was a free day, good weather, and cultural pursuits (honest) kept me busy until about 1700, after which I decided to check out Supergirls. Finding it has been discussed endlessly and made needlessly complicated. Go to Shimbashi Station, west courtyard, and spot the locomotive (Engine CII 292, if it matters). It is impossible to miss. It sits in the middle of a red brick enclosure. Walk to the head of the locomotive; it will be over your right shoulder. You will be at a zebra crosswalk. Cross the street. The side street (it is not an alley) that is just two meters to your left, is the Supergirls street. It (SG) is on the right 50 meters or so along.I got there at 1745 and a tout immediately lit on me. A 60 year old white male which can't even say good-bye (sayonara) in Japanese. He had me down the stairs in a flash. The tariff was still ?6, 000, plus a ?2, 000 ticket fee, whatever that is. (At 1800 it rises by one thousand.) Fair enough, this was research. I paid. The tout explained in broken but decent English what the deal was, laid down the ground rules, washed my hands in sanitizer, sprayed my mouth the an aerosol mouth wash, and took me inside, settling me in the farthest booth in, on the right. I was the only customer. A glass of ice water soon arrived, followed by a gal whose name never did register. Her English was very limited indeed, but she was enthusiastic and friendly. She was probably a 5+ on a 10 point scale, but had a great body, about 1. 70 m, 50 kg or so, natural hair, very toned. She went through the ritual of laying out all the toweletts, chatting me up, laying out the ground rules once more, and hanging up my jacket. Then, off came my trousers. And, quite a surprise, in one smooth gesture, she removed every stitch on her body. Gone. An artist. Complete freedom to roam, which I took advantage of. Willy responded immediately. She lay on her back across the banquette and me, giving me complete access to whatever I wanted, whilst she twisted her head around to do the deed. If I decided I wanted a little DFK, she'd oblige, keeping her hands busy where they'd do the most good. The experience was unrushed, most enjoyable, and came to a very satisfactory conclusion in 7-10 minutes. Clean-up ensued (those toweletts), rerobing, followed by some conversation. I suppose after another ten minutes the tout (bouncer) arrived to call time (it was probably a half an hour all totaled) and I left with many thanks and sayonaras all around. I would reckon Supergirls is no longer off limits to gaijin.Back to hotel, a deep scrub, yakitori dinner, packing, and then this report. Tomorrow, I fly out, sorry I did not have time to check out the horny housewife, mid-afternoon scene (websites abound). Next trip. Sayonara.[size=-2]EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.Internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Hot Bot

04-14-10, 18:16

Pretty sure there is still one in Shibuya.Come out of the station and head for the 246.After you cross the bridge, look up the hill to the right and it is in the blocks to the left of the main road.
Hi!I just joined a little while ago, and I really like all the info I've been able to find here. I'm going to Japan from August to January, and have some questions.Are there any burusera shops anymore? All reports I can seem to find about them seems to be from around 03-04 or older. Is it even possible to get deriheru (I'm thinking AM or something similar) without a cell phone? Not sure if I'm going to get a cell phone while in Japan. Also, are there any other recommended deriheru agencies with young girls? My Japanese isn't fluent, but I know quite a bit.Thanks!

Leeroy182

04-15-10, 01:12

Bullet

04-15-10, 03:45

I believe this shop is related to the pinsaro in Otsuka called Milky Way.Tried getting in about six months ago and it was off limits but you never know with Supergirls letting foreigners back.

Nampa Guy

04-15-10, 14:46

Where exactly is supergirls? Looking to send off two good buddies of mine and we're planning a mongering session this Friday. Live in Yokosuka, have a GF, so would be best if Yokohama / Tokyo area. Yeah, this sounds like a great idea?! Then it will be shut down to gaigin again on Saturday. You really can't go to a place like this en mass with all your buddies this is one of the unwritten rules of J mongering. Unless you go to Hinomaru.

Torrain

04-15-10, 15:15

So a question about K-girls, maybe a stupid one at that, I know the girls are from Korea, but does anyone know if the mamasan speaks/understands korean?Thanks much.

Zcorps

04-15-10, 22:55

So a question about K-girls, maybe a stupid one at that, I know the girls are from Korea, but does anyone know if the mamasan speaks/understands korean?Thanks much.I'm pretty sure if you call up, you can communicate with the mamasan via Korean. Every single time I've called up, I've noticed the woman on the other end has a Korean accent. Additionally, many of these girls communicate with the store in Korean. So it's a safe bet that you can use Korean.

Member #3439

04-16-10, 05:30

Where exactly is supergirls? Looking to send off two good buddies of mine and we're planning a mongering session this Friday. Live in Yokosuka, have a GF, so would be best if Yokohama / Tokyo area.As Nampa Guy said, mongering in Japan is done solo and even then with great caution and politeness. The places are intimidated by even 1 gaijin at a time. If you must go together, try Hi-Top in Otsuka and that is your best chance. Check my post below with directions. There are Chinese girls there that provide a totally unforgettable fuck and suck experience. 995311Good luck and let us know how it goes. But stay away from Supergirls. Guys have been waiting for a long time for that place to open back up to gaijin and don't want it messed up. Odd, we were just having this same discussion in the Rio thread about guys who want to go have sex together and freaking out the local casas when a bunch of gringos show at the door en mass. They turn them away there too, in the holy land of sex. -PP

Radar1

04-16-10, 14:01

Thanks for the great report ,curious to know ,do these girls wear any costumes?Cheers
Went last Friday around noon again (see previous reports)Upstairs O-TAKARA was full.So they told me to go to the sister shop downstairs which was empty. I found it a bit strange. They charged me 6, 000 for 2 girls. (instead of 7, 000 upstairs.)Same design than upstairs. 4 sofas behind each other, dark inside with disco lights and loud J-POP music.1st girl name was ASAMI. She was huge, XXL size, but face was not so bad looking. She was super kind. I asked to wear a condom, and she was surprised, she told me she didn't know how to put it on! WTF! I had to do it myself, but she cared of the rest. What was nice, is that she had really HUGE TITS, never seen something like this for a J-girl. That turned me on, and her tits were quite hot too. Very comfortable. I enjoyed the time, and when the alarm started to ring, I put off the condom and finished CIM.Looks: 1/10, BJ: not really good, TITS: big is beautiful 10/10.Satisfaction 6/10. This is to BJ what Mcdonalds is to burgers.OMG I hate the music. And I didn't feel starting round #2 with another (fat?) girl. So I just went away, feeling relieve anyway.BTW I found the internet site of both shops, finallyDownstairs is called DIO, and upstairs O-TAKARA EMOTION.Address is higashi gotanda 1-16-2, near exit of Asakusa Line. Go into Ichibancho street. 2nd right. Scouts are welcoming outside with an earphone.http://www.Emotion.vc/framepage5.htmlhttp://www.Dio.bz/All in allAn alternative south of Tokyo to Jan-Jan which I have not tried. I guess its similar in price and service.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Herpes

04-17-10, 15:14

Thanks for the great report ,curious to know ,do these girls wear any costumes?CheersNo just a bathrobe, or a towel. they undress totally. you can play with their pussy if u want. (unless when they have their periods). 69, fingering etc.Price for gaijin 2 girls for 7,000 or 1 designated girl (shimei) from 5,000.

Mgz1234

04-17-10, 18:27

Thanks for that interesting post, FG. A sex business with a sex-negative attitude, perversion Japanese style! :) Right up there with the Tokyo Eel Show, that elusive institution akin to the Tijuana Donkey Show. Anyway, my ass has recovered from the hook that I reported was inserted in it over the weekend and, although I still bear the marks on my side from caning, I felt this evening like continuing my pursuit of more Japanese girls. The mood struck me while I was sitting in a restaraunt near Yokohama Station, fresh off work and eating dinner. I struck off for Sugamo with my laptop and umbrella in hand, just like a J-salaryman..haha.So the purpose of my report is to say that I am right on board with the other guys who say that the better girls come to Jan Jan at night, probably because they are single OL's or students. I am going at night now and seeing the difference in a big way..well worth the extra 1k. Last weekend I was saying that the FS I reported in Otsuka was the best vanilla experience to have at reasonable prices, I have to reconsider now.Tonight I got a stunner. 10 pm. Cha-ching, score 1 for that nasty gaijin PP!! Of maybe 15 girls seeded in Japan so far, pink and FS. this was far and away the best looker. I walked into Jan-Jan, got my frequent shooter card punched (just kidding, noobs) , and proceeded to booth. In comes a 9, and I am being conservative. Tight body, probably about 27, beautiful face, legs, pedicured feet and FAKE TITS...I have never seen anything resembling real breasts in Japan, so when she walked up I was taken aback. Am I in Japan or California? So it doesn't end there..just like the other night I got the GFE big time, short of copulation. Right away I confirmed manually that those were fake tits. But for this girl I didn't bother trying to push her limits (like I did the girl in last Friday's report) because I just wanted to savor everything and not do anything to kill the mood. Awesome DFK and I went DATY on her three times because the pussy was so good. I wish I could stick her in my suitcase and take her back to the States. Holy shit and for real. We were horizontal 69 in the booth! :) After we got done she smiled and said arigatou. Wow, I was happy with the quality of product and service tonight. People on the Yamanote are looking at me weird like 'what the hell is that crazy gaijin smiling at' I kept a smile all the way back to Yoko station! On only my 5th girl of the trip, and less than half way though, Japan has already exceeded my expectations for mongering this time. Drastic departure from last year. After I leave here, I am thinking of an excursion to Pattaya burning FF miles, but at this point after the 2 great pink sessions, GFE FS, and hard dominatrix session, I'd say I could go home happy right now. But I won't..I'll keep mongering, investigating and reporting.-PPCan you give us a name? Been to JanJan several times and never gotten any girl with huge knockers before or even fake ones.