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AsiaTraveler2
11-20-03, 22:40
Soujourn;Great map for Fujimama's. You can't miss Kiddy Land, so it's real easy to find Fujimama's from that map. No wonder it's a bit hard to find .. it's off the main road. Thanks for the info.AT2
Hello - question for Sailing or anyone else.I've noticed some really hot girls (same ones) hanging out in front of the Atre entrance in Ebisu JR. I tried to talk to a couple but they kind of blew me off.. I really wonder what they are doing?? My hodar is banging at '11'. They only carry a small handbag, offer no literature and seem very discriminate about who they contact - usually relatively upscale Japanese men with briefcase. Any ideas? If they weren't so attrractive and obviously 'working', I'd probably just ignore them.Cheers
Tokyo fun!Hello - tonite I talked to one of my shanghai friends who is a tout at the 'esute' near 21. He always treats me right with great girls and perfect service. So if you are in Tokyo and want to hook up some sweet chinese or japanese girl with no hassle then please PM me for the info. They accept foreigner and I told him that <we> should make a special set price for my WSG friends who will be courteous and respectful. Basically you can expect 40min FS session for 15k. No hassles and girls should be in the 7 - 9 range. The place is a little funky, but again, 15k in a Japanese health or image is difficult to get more than sumata unless you are regular or can speak japanese. And the places in Shinjuku are simply rip off bait and switch. It's not BJ or SH, bbs like, but decent enough. Though maybe getting into a party ala Sailing is a bit more mileage. However, this is almost an every night possibility with ALOT better women than 21. If you go there, sure you can get a BBBJ and prolly nasty case of the clap with a 3 - 6 , or you can pay a little more and spend 2x the time with a fairly innocent sweetie who you can usually bang anyway you want. Don't expect BBBJ its all covered for your safety and theirs. But there is some flexibility depending on the rapport.Aside from that - Heartland tonite - about 3:1 bankers to girls, damn! But still I had my hands all over a certain hostess and promised her sex with 3 of my friends. She was of course interested and I set a meeting with her for early December. Remember - to express nampa you gotta be specific! But use tatemae to express the situation! I'm an average guy - and have to say while most of the cooler, wealthier younger guys were enjoying their beers with each other, my friend and I had 4 lovelies at our table the whole night and he went on with 3 of them. I left because tomorrow morning I have a yummy waiting for me for 'special appointment' . So what gives? Well now it's Nouveau Beaujolais opening for Japan - and its a favorite wine for many Japanese women!! This year is the best year in many! Of course they ALL know! So if you offer a beer -- yech! Just order a bottle and exclaim how nice this year it is! They willl know! Trust me --- 3 strikes in 2 days. Ganbatte! (good luck)
AsiaTraveler2
11-21-03, 23:13
Soujourn;Are you sure they are "working girls". I always thought the girls waiting right at the station front, were just waiting for their "Salary man" (business men) boyfriends. They generally meet for dinner/lunch/drinks.AT2
Soujourn -What is the best time of day, generally, to be at Fujimama?I checked out their website and it looks interesting. They even have a Thanksgiving turkey dinner. I'm heading for Tokyo for a few days next week.Thanks.
Skinless picked up the ugliest ho in all of Japan beside Okubo station (Okubo Dori exit). She has teeth like the Sgt in Beetle Baily, only worse. We walked to a car lot and I cim for 2,000 yen. She hotels for 5,000 but as she is so dog ugly, she would probably do it for less. It was nice feeling the hot liquid spurt into her mouth as I stroked her hair like a pet dog. Skinless got some cum on his trousers. As he left the car lot, three cops on patrol came into view. Skinless was lucky not to get caught. Last night, on the road beside the track, Skinless saw another guy being serviced. If all you want is a spurt, best to skip the hotel. Just pick a safe lane and squirt into them.
Woody For Asians
11-22-03, 15:54
Skinless,You are my hero! Not even I, who have leapt onto Japanese strip show revolving stages to fuck cuties in public, would have the balls to try that. I visited Shin Okubo a couple of weeks ago and didn't see any place that would be safe from passersby. I did see lots of "neighborhood patrol" signs posted.
[Chiba]Any intel on Funabashi, Kashiwa and Matsudo in Chiba Prefecture? Interested if anyone checked out the so-called 'matchmaking sauna' in Funabashi. Sounds kinda similar to the coffee shops (tabang?) in Korea.Cheers,JFX
Soujourn, If we're talking about Ebisu, least most of them are OLs and other working women (not that kind of working - I mean real office working) waiting for friends, boyfriends, lovers, sugar daddys, etc. Thanks for the info on Fujimama. Shazam is going in the next few days. You are a great role model for us regular guys who are not mega-wealthy supermodel types.Skinless- Ballsy move, man. You rock! I'm from the south US, so it's getting too cold to pull a move like that. I'll stick with the handicapped restrooms; they're at least a little warmer.
Hi there,Actually those girls ARE working at something. I was at the station several times during the day and saw the exact same girls approaching men to talk to them about something. Most of the men just blew them off, but once or twice they 'hit' and disappeared. I used to work at Ebisu Garden PLace so am well familiar with that place as a meeting point - this is different.Fujimama's is fun -- now the rockin place is Heartland on Thur/Fri , but be prepared to compete with every banker and finance guy coming down the tower. NP for me --- they dress like euro bankers, I'll just throw on some cool shades, hip sport jacket and a smile. Had 3 girls at my table last friday - sent 2 of them away with friends - telling them they needed a good 'play' to start the weekend.You can nampa anyhwere, anytime. Just remember, your first goal is rapport and a smile. After that, YMMV. My target is generally the hotter, older (30's+) OL cause they are desparate for any love, no japanese guy is giving them any attention, they have money to go out and play. Hell, why are 'host' clubs popular in Japan??? Once you have rapport and a few words then comment about some detail - not that they look great, but some detail, like shoes, scarf, coat, etc. OL spend their precious time on these things and if you, a man notices, it's like the highlight of their month. Next - ask them for tea, ice-cream, ramen, anything to split them out. If you know any NLP tricks like pacing, etc - it works wonders. It also builds your confidence in the meeting.Know what the 3 top shows are for career OL ? Sex in the City, Ally McBeal and Friends. That should give you a hint what ultra fantasy life these chicks are living. And that's straight from a close 'friend' who's a japanese woman biz owner in her late 30's and constantly on the prowl.Lastly - set yourself up for reverse nampa. Dress sharp, practice your hiragana flash cards at the bar, visit the food market without a clue how to buy anything, go to movies alone. Just make yourself available to them in any way they can assist. If I can manage this - ANYONE can! My japanese is poor, I'm over 40, not super attractive, etc. Damn, I love Japan.
That was my second bj in that car lot. It is overlooked by a block of apts so not safe at all. The safest place is the road beside the railway track where the old hookers hang out. They can go behind the houses to do the deed. I was thinking of asking for a 3-4k fuck there. An older Thai lady who cbj me before asked me for pam pam Friday night. Pam pam is what Thai hookers say in Thailand. Interesting she knew how to say gosen en and point to her wrinkled mouth (20K for hotel - ha ha) but did not know the Japanese or English for fucky fucky. I have been trawling this area for several years together, growing old along with my favorite hos. I am holding up to age a lot better than they are. You will notice many bag women in the area and, yes, Skinless has bagged a few of them. Not recommended unless you need to have your butt rimmed. There are a few 2 k hotels in the neighborhood btw.
Crazy Jim Wood
11-23-03, 09:10
Miss Phuket near Tokyo station (across the street from the north exit)? http://home.att.ne.jp/moon/mebius/misspuke/I went there once two months ago, they were having some plumbing problems and the chap at the front desk claimed no extras.Anyone had any recent expereince there, do they put out?Jimbo
Hi all,Thanks for all the posts. Had a great time at an Adult party with Sailing. Props to him for the help. Highly recommended for a no pressure good time with some good looking chicks.Browsing the web, I ran across this in a pen pal site, Japan-guide.com. You have to sign up for it, but I can't tell if this is for real or a joke, but one girl from Osaka wrote, Miki Job: Company Worker Hobby: Travel Music Purpose: find someone who..... HelloTo get to the point, I'm just looking for a man who gets me pregnant. I look forward to your message. 2003/11/23It made me laugh. Any takers?
Nikkei, Well, only if she signs an ironclad contract about not holding me responsibile afterwards...heh, heh.
Hey Soujourn,Right on!!! nampa is every where, I was in Tokyo for two years 1999-2001 and had the best time. Shibuya and Shinjuku where my nampa places. I'll be back in Dec. and will try Fujimama's . I picked up this OL last summer in Shibuya and I have a free place to stay during my visit along with all the pussy I can stand. I'll see if I can sneak out to Heartland.Skinless your a sick one, hope you don't what those hookers have.B
Here?s another report on one of the seikans mentioned here before??g?style? in Shibuya. Originally posted by Fredo, I can confirm the quality of girls here is pretty good. I went there the other day and received a nice BBBJ CIM from Maya, a 21 year old with a very pretty face, good breasts, a sexy hourglass body and a friendly demeanor. I had a good fake GFE with her. I didn?t order the CIM, so that came out to a freebie. In addition to being gaijin-friendly, it offers outstanding value, I think. The prices are quite reasonable plus no first time ?membership fee? or girl-choice fee (you choose from the girls available then). If you mention the internet discount (?1,000) and go before 5 you?ll get 30 minutes for ?7,000. After 5 would be ?9,000.One drawback is you?ll have to speak at least a little Japanese and have some familiarity with the seikan system in order to get in. For those who don?t speak Japanese, go once with someone who does, remember a few of the answers to questions the manager is likely to ask, and you should be able to do it on your own after that. If you need someone to show you, please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service.The other tricky point is finding this place. The website (http://www.g-style.us/) gives no specific address and there is no sign anywhere that says ?g-style? at all. To get there, walk from Tokyu Plaza along the main road, 246. Walk up the hill about 3 or 4 minutes, past the new overhead pedestrian walkway. It?s in a building with white lit signs and red lettering. One of the signs reads ?ESP group? (don?t ask). Enter the building next to the cigarette machine. It?s on the 4th floor?suite 4B. There?s just a wooden welcome sign on the front. I?ve included a photo of the building taken from the overhead walkway.Happy mongering and thanks again to Fredo for the tip.
Skinless,You had your butt rimmed by some bag lady? You are my hero! You have some guts, was that in the same area by the tracks? Thanks for all the good posts, I still have not had time to check out that area by the tracks.
Triple Input
11-25-03, 07:37
Just need to get a little bit of current info. I will be heading to Toyko the first week of December and will have 2 days to spend in the Ropongi area. Its been 10 years since the last time I was there and would like to hear of any nite clubs or massage places that will hook an American up. Thanks!
Yeh, there was a tall, thin old bag lady there a few night ago who got a bit of JS' ass. I picked her up at Seibu Shinjuku and tookher to a 2k flea pit nearby. There is also at least one definite HIV case hangs around the hospital.
Hi,What's happening? Nothing to report in Japan? I am going to a Korean adult party on Saturday with fellow WSG member. Anyone up for this action the more the merrier, the owner may be up to giving a group discount for four or five guys. The last time I went with two other guys and asked he said that he would consider it for five guys but was not too keen on doing it for three. The cost is 25 K for Japanese and 5k more for foreigners. Any takers?
Maybe some other time Sailing. Sounds fun but a bit expensive for two pops.
Hi,I was wondering if anyone has heard more about the catchy disease situation that was going around Hinomaru acouple of weeks agao. Is it still bad?
Excellent deal now be had in Ueno. Este across from Yushima station - 8000 for the works. Special deal until February. For those non-Japanese speakers, Crystal (just in from Singapore) is fluent - face:6.5 / body:8.Enjoy!
I attended the Korean Adult Party in Shin-okubo the other night with Sailing and another WSG member. If you?ve been following this board for a while, you know that Sailing is a bit of a regular at this party. Although I had had a very exciting and athletic 2-hour session with a college girl the day before, I was up for this experience. I?m interested in experiencing the rich and abundant sex scene that Tokyo has to offer and after reading Sailing?s posts, I definitely wanted to try this. After contacting Sailing, we meet at the station and walked to the party, located in a small 2 bedroom apartment. Sailing is a gregarious guy and was happy to meet me and take me to the party. Anyway, here?s my quick appraisal: Pros1. Attractive girls?most of the girls were 6s or 7s, maybe an 8 or two, too2. Informal ?at-home? atmosphere?you can chat a bit with the girls and get a feel for their personality. Definitely better than the crapshoot of just seeing a picture and choosing. 3. They accept gaijin, FS guaranteed4. Nothing except common discretion to discourage you from privately asking for a girl?s number and trying to meet her outside the party. Mine gave me hers, but YMMV. 5. Beer, whisky and snacks included.Cons1. 15 minute time limit for each session with a girl.2. Any oral warm-up performed on your Johnson or cahones is done with a strip of Saran wrap (shrink wrap?) placed over the target area3. ? 5,000 ?gaijin surcharge? 4. Some may not like the one sex room/two couples space-saver feature?you?re just an arm?s length away from the other couple, separated by a curtainAlso, if you don?t go with Sailing, minimal Japanese speaking ability is advised. Or another idea?bring a Korean phrase book with you into the sex room and be ready to stop the action from time to time while you thumb through the book for elementary Korean phrases. I?m really happy I got a chance to take part in this party. If this kind of thing sounds interesting, you should definitely contact Sailing. He?s got lots of information about the girls and seems to enjoy playing the host. It was good to meet the other WSJ member, too?an interesting guy from California. Out for now.
AsiaTraveler2
11-30-03, 23:28
Kanda;Where's Yushima station? I'm familiar with Ueno, but only heard of Ueno Station, Keisei, Okachimachi, and the Subway stops (Hibiya, Oedo, and Ginza lines). Interested.Thanks!AT2
Yushima Station: Chiyoda-Line ( green circle). Take the train from the direction of Omote-Sando towards Ayase or Kashiwa. Yushima is two stops after Otemachi, one stop after Shin Ochanomizu. Omote-Sando to Yushima takes about 17 minutes. Now, can I get some of that pussy for giving directions? Not much rim action with the bag ladies until this typhoon blows over:)
Hello,I went to 'Academy' Filipino hostess club in Yotsuya~sanchome. They are having 20yr anniversary. About 3:1 guys to girls. Got numbers, they called, they wanted hook ups. I declined - but it seems easy pickings for hostess club girls. Many 5's - 8's and genki. Only 5000JPY nomihodai for 90min! Plenty of time for a couple of karaoke tunes and some nampa. Foreign hostess girl tip: These girls are only temporarily in the country. Usually their visa is expired. They are LOOKING for permanence. SO - reinforce that by saying things like:1) OH - you must be the future wife I dreamed about last night!2) I missed your nice dinner. Can you cook it again?3) It's hard to be alone even though I make a good living here in Japan!Basically anything like this will trigger the 'permanence' circuit. Always remember to 'anchor' those statements by a gentle squeeze on her thigh or hand. Be generous, but prudent - those girls also want to believe you are 'the one' and not a player.BTW - that works perfect for Japanese OL's on any Thursday.Ciao!
Any news about that clap going around? Been wanting to hit Seki 21, but don't want to risk catching anything.
Lumberjack
12-02-03, 04:48
The clap is still a big problem - go to 21 Seiki if you want, just bring some skins with you. No fuss, no muss, and you might get a little hop on and ride action. I used to get it once in a while when Kazuki was still there.
AsiaTraveler2
12-02-03, 12:07
Soujourn;Am I missing something from your last entry? I believe you mean 3:1 Girls to Guys? I enjoy those clubs from time to time, but don't they keep tabs on the girls? They don't have days off and always report to the clubs, so when do you meet them? I know they are allowed to "date", but that usually means an hour or two just before they go to work. Usually meaning you take them to dinner and they then escort you to the clubs. They are required to bring you or they get reprimanded big time and probably penalized in pay. How do you get around that? Just asking, since I have tried before and have not had any success.AT2
AsiaTraveler2
12-02-03, 12:18
I tried one of the massage services provided by the hotels in Shinjuku. 5,000Y for 1 hour. They call a service, and I believe it's supposed to be 100% legit massage, but she started talking and her hands started roaming around and I knew something was up. Long story short, she offered a happy ending for 3,000Y tip. I guess things are slow right now. She was around 40Yrs old and not a knockout, but ok. Worked out well for me. Just thought I'd pass it along.AT2
AT2 -- yeah 3girls to 1 guy --- sorry for the confusion. Good rotation. You are right about the motive --- but that's why I strictly avoid japanese hostesses. The fillipino girls are much more accomodating (and tenacious). They get a day or 2 to play and usually make the most out of it - especially if they know a nice dinner is in the works. I rarely play with j-girls in japan. Too expensive, bitchy and hairy. There's so many chinese, korean, fillipino and thai girls, why bother? The j-girls are great for nampa activities - especially if they are 30+. Other than that, they are just looking for 'enjo kosai' (assisted dating) which is less mileage than I care to worry about. Maybe if you are a bubbleman and have the $$$ to play it's cool.Skinless got the right MO. Find the baggers and let then rim you for cheap -- and look for the lonelys on the street and retro-bars. A perl can be found in what - every hundred oysters? Not bad odds! I still reccomend the esute in Sibuya. Mostly cute, young chinese girls and I've never left disappointed or ripped off.Ciao
Hey Kanda,Any more info on the este in Ueno? How was your experience there? No language problems at the door? FS?
Sorry guys , fairly new. That este sounds good. Is it the same type of deal as Hinomaru? Went there a few saturday nights ago. Had an older korean lady. About a 6.5 can't remember her name. Her skills were about average and it took lots of hand action to get me to cum but no problem with bbbj. About all my time was done by the time she got done. May try again.
Reference Crazy Jim Woods post of 11-12-03 regarding Paradise Massage in Nippori:I believe that the outfit is located up the first alley past the railroad track overpass, not the second. I could find any sign in English, but there was a lighted pink sign with white writing in Japanese that evidently announced the place, which is on the second floor. The lobby is in a pink motif. They open at noon.Paradise Massage personnel say: No sex. However, a hand release, as described by Jim is evidently not considered sex! But no use of the mouth, and definitely no intercourse permitted. At least, that was the case for me!But I did get a nice table shower, a massage, lots of hot towels, some kissing and stroking, nipple sucking and ultimately a hand release from Lee, a very slender 28-year old Korean girl with large, firm breasts. By the time she got to the deed, I exploded rather quickly. But she lay next to me cuddling for awhile.Definitely not the worst way one could spend 10000 yen in Tokyo.
Hey, guys - just a quick check-in. I'm gonna be out of the pay-for-play scene for a little while. Got more than I can deal with at the moment. Let's introduce the cast.M - 46, career woman, marriedA - 42, housewife, married (duh!)Y - 44, working housewife, marriedM2 - 32, career woman, attached but, you know...J - 34, M2's friend, career woman, attached in a senseTwo weeks ago, I was scratching for chicks and now, I have five I am juggling with. Here's what happened...M works for a company with which my former company did business. Met M at a Udon restaurant in Shinjuku quite by coincidence. We talked and exchanged numbers. I called her about two weeks ago and made a dinner date. After dinner, I made the opening gambit - touched her lightly on her (quite nice) left breast as I helped her on with her coat. 30 min. later, we were stress-testing some bed in a hotel. We will hook up as her schedule permits.A is a housewife in Yokohama. I was lost in Sakuragicho last Saturday and just asked stopped her randomly to ask her directions. We just started talking for some dumb reason and I asked her if she wanted to get a coffee. After some small talk, I found out she spent several years as a student in LA - my last US residence before coming to Japan. She lived close by in the Sakuragicho area and asked if I wanted to see some pics of LA. I accepted. Hubby was out whacking small white balls on a manicured lawn with a metal stick somewhere in the country, and the son was out doing whatever, so we were alone. I made a flippant remark about one pic of her in a swimsuit near Santa Monica beach ("You have a great body; can you still wear that swimsuit?"). KA-CHING! Rolled around for a couple of hours and, as long as I am very discrete, we will try again.Y works in Tokyo for a company I used to contract with. I have been in touch with Y on-and-off for the past 12 months, but just this past Monday, I went out with her for the first time. When I talked to her before, she never gave any hint that she was itching, but during our dinner, she confided that her husband is kinda, well, fat (She compared him to Akebono) and his sex drive is pretty damn lame. She gets it from him something like twice a year and even then it's not real nice being under 200 kgs of man-flesh. I offered to help out with that. We made out heavily on the fourth floor of the Dai-Ichi Hotel in Shinbashi in a deserted banquet room. Kissing, touching, licking and just about everything else you can do and still keep your clothes (relatively) on. Extremely promising as we move into 2004.M2 is a friend of a friend of a friend. I know this Japanese guy, Mr. K, who is a company exec and married, but has a girlfriend, J. J has a friend, M2. Last night, Mr. K called me up and asked me if I wanted to go out with J and M2. I accepted. M2 is a petite, short-haired, kind of stocky but quite busty, mini-skirted hottie. We all went to a Japanese restaurant and, while Mr. K was chatting up J, I was getting to know all about M2. She has a Jpn boyfriend, but wants to try on a gaijin just for kicks for a while; no emotional committment outside of sex. As we were leaving, she said she liked my beard and said it makes me look real sexy. We were schtupping in a nearby hotel soon thereafter and I barely made the last train home.J is Mr. K's other woman. She has longer hair, is taller and slimmer, but no less sexy. But, while Mr. K was passing beer in the men's room at one point in the evening, J gave me her phone number - in full view of M2 - and said to call her next week because she wants to schtupp with a gaijin, too, at least once or twice. M2 protested and said, "I get to do him first!" (Atashi no ho wa saki ni deshou!) But, M2 has no hang-ups about letting me screw J at some point soon. We were all extremely open about it. Totally insane conversation. Whether J wants to tell Mr. K is her business, but I doubt he would care...he is in it for the fun as well.Sheesh - somewhere in this mix is my wife, too, but that's pretty much on auto-pilot.In both M2's and J's case, I owe it all to Mr. K. But, I think I would be safe in saying - and Soujourn can back me up here - that the OL/career woman in her 30s+ is an untapped sexual motherlode. Housewives, too, once you crack the ice, are pretty damn nuclear in the sex department. There is one HW whose kid goes to my daughter's kindergarten. I see her at all the parent's functions. I know she wants it - this isn't some delusion; she has asked me over for "tea" before, but it is too close to home for my comfort zone.NOTE: In every case above, Japanese language fluency is a MUST. If I didn't speak/read Japanese, I would have gotten nowhere with any of these women.Guys, I'm not a GQ model; hell, I'm like Mr. Average here. About 40, not that tall, not out-of-shape but not in as good a shape as I was earlier. Nobody has confused me with Tom Cruise lately, that's for sure. I think they key here, in addition to confidence, is to show that you are having a good time. In all cases, I took a kind of "what the hell" devil-may-care attitude. The last thing, I think, that you want to be here is serious. I laughed a lot, told lame jokes in Japanese, complimented the girls on their looks and basically had a good time.Aloha, Shazam
Shazam: Thank you for your report. Mine is simpler. I needed my ass rimmed last night so I went to Shin Okubo station and hooked up with Beetle Bailey. We agreed 5,000 yen for 3 pops. She told me the hotel was 3,500 yen and I had been in it with others at that price. (Japanese style just around the corner from Obubo station). They charged me 6,800 and she gave me a bbbj and a skinless fuck for 3,000 yen, making 9,800 in all. I stopped at 2 pops as this cheap trick disgusted me. She obviously got a kick back from the hotel. She waved me bye bye as I left. Ugly as hell, smokes too much, a good sense of humor. Needs to be tutored in bj techniques. Good only if you need to fuck the feral. I even think she wears a wig. Check her out for freaky value. If you see here, your first reaction will be: "who would fuck THAT!". Now you know.:)Shazam: I might take a few more leaves out of your book. These hos are boring me.
Hey Shazam,Congrats on the report! I know I'm not the only one out there tapping into the mid 30's OL's. They are hot, horny and ready for anyone just about anytime! My japanese is poor by any standards, but I still manage just fine. So anyone should be able enjoy the hidden fruits of this country quite easily. Just use some panache and a smile! And stay away from the obivous suck pits like Roppongi (except Motown) where your mileage will be less than a 70' GrandAm on a beer run to Vegas.
Shazam,No offense, but this board isn't for bragging about getting sex for free. Its for advice and anecdotes about purchasing it. Skinless,Is a 'skinless fuck' a bareback fuck?
Went to the party again, tough life got a call from a couple of guys who wanted to go and they twisted my arm for like a second before I eagerly went along. Got there and there was a cool J-guy who spoke English so we talked for a while, there were fewer girls this weekend only four when we got there. New girl Nami, and the chick with a great body, Noriko. I had wanted to try her out and I finally got the chance today. It was great really natural D cup tits and a pretty face and great personality. Said she comes to the party irregularly so it is hit or miss with her. The other two were Mami who gives great bbbjs and has great technique. Aiko my favorite regular was there too. I called her in advance to make sure she would be there. I am meaning to take her out for dinner and a nice fuck some where nice. Got to try her out on a real bed sometime. The only draw back to this scene was that about 30 minutes into our stay this drunk stupid guy came in and really blew the atmosphere of the place. Was really rude to the girls and wanted to take Aiko but she grabbed me and took me to the playroom where we had a nice long session and immediately thereafter promptly left. I really enjoy talking to her as she is fun and sweet but this asshole drove her out. I talked to the owner about getting this asshole out of there but he seemed powerless to suggest that the guy leave. Said he would do a single and leave but after one round decided to do another. Nami, left and Noriko was going to but I grabbed her and took her for a session. This session was again long and we snuggled for a while to postpone going back to the party room until the asshole left. So I guess the asshole was a mixed blessing.
Opebo,Again no offense, you are entitled to your opinion, but I think the WSG is world sex guide not WPSG, world paid sex guide. Sex is sex and it is interesting and encouraging for me to read success stories in the Nampa area. There is a place for both on this forum and I don't consider it is bragging, just telling a story to provide information in an entertaining manner. It takes some time to put together a post like Shazam's.When I first arrive in J land I usually have a few of my favorite escort types on line because it is convenient, they come to the hotel and I know what to expect. But after I take care of that the Nampa kicks in and it is a different type of excitement. Kind of like hunting in the wilds versus the game farm. I think we should encourage both or perhaps a separate section for Japan Nampa stories only would be appropriate. I'll bet most viewers will be reading both. Any opinions here? Should we petition for a separate topic line?That said, if anyone wants my compiled list of Nampa tips or stories please PM me so I won't offend anyone else on the board with a general post.Play safe,En'
Nampanator
12-07-03, 21:12
Hi guys,Stumbled upon this site and have been reading the reports, nice wealth of info here Though one question - is it necessarily an advantage or disadvantage if you're from the USA (or any non-asian country for that matter), but are Asian? I know that most of the places are not gaijin-friendly, and I guess this would help me in that I could blend in, but my Japanese is limited to a couple phrases, and besides English I only know Cantonese. So I feel like if I try nampa, I might not get as much luck since I might be confused as a native? I consider myself so-so looking, not overweight or anything and in my early 20s - but the fact that I'm Asian makes me just like 90% of all the guys over there right now. Asking mostly because I'm going to be staying in Tokyo from Christmas to beginning of January, and wanted to end off the year by trying the sex life there out for the first time. I stayed in Ikebukuro last time I was there, and was approached by a few night walkers, but I was too nervous to try it out. Gonna change that this time around. Don't mind paying, but not even looking for FS really. Any advice?Sorry for the long-winded post, but I'll make it up by adding something to my encounter in Ikebukuro last year - it was a duo that actually approached me. They asked me in Japanese if I wanted a massage, and I paused to look them over, even if I knew I wasn't going to do anything. Guess they took that as a hook, because when I refused they pressed me a little more - I finally said something like, "Gomen, watashi wa gaijin desu" (Sorry, I'm a foreigner). One of them then started speaking in Mandarin, but I had no idea what she was saying, so I just kept going "eh?" Then her partner spoke in Korean (I think), and finally they just stormed off, looking kinda annoyed. They were around 6 or 7, and now I wondered if they would've given me a 2 for 1 deal if I took them up...
I agree with endowed that Nampa stories in Japan are interesting and useful since the "goal" of the board is getting laid. Of course I wouldn't want to hear daily reports from the same person over and over, but the variety so far has been OK.A separate entry might be useful, since the Tokyo board will get a bit cluttered and make it harder for newbies to find info on buying sex.
Lumberjack
12-08-03, 00:37
Agreed, no problem with nampa stories here - provided the venue for pickup is ALSO included, preferably with best evenings to hit the place.Was out in Koenji the other day, and there appears to be a LOT of action there. Anyone ever given it a try? Looks tempting for exploration.Also, looks like FS Chinese este's might have a little staffing shortage shortly. Immigration has denied the visa applications of 90% of the prospective students from China for the coming year - which is the most common dodge for the girls to get into Japan.On the bright side, according to a friend of mine working at the immigration bureau, the press for increased scrutiny of Chinese applications means that applications from Thailand, Myanmar, Russia and a host of other countries providing our favourite export are going largely unchecked. Could be a boom for variety?
Wine Guy 247
12-08-03, 01:06
I looked up the purpose of the forum under the FAQ: "To facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. " Sounds pretty good to me! Frankly, we end up paying one way or another as we all know.MJ
Tokyo Moose
12-08-03, 04:46
Watch out at those parties.A party was crashed by the police and many were arrested.The detail are here.http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/waiwai/index.htmlIf you do a Japanese search you can find more detailed information.
Allen Eire
12-08-03, 08:49
I agree as well. I have never been to Japan although from time to time I send product to an advanced materials company in Japan. Would love an excuse to get over there without the wife. I was in Vegas right after this past Labor Day riding the Strip trolley shuttle. These two J-girls get on at the Stratosphere and the ride gets a bit crowded with one J-gal inadvertantly rubbing into me while making small talk and her freind eyeing me coyly and giggling. I was due to fly out that evening but would love to have gotten to know the both of them in the biblical sense. What I am saying is Japan seems to be brimming with gals who discretely want to try an American and I enjoyed reading Shazaam's post!
I agree,Even though as a relative babe here with reports only in another section, getting laid is the goal. Doesnt everyone want to get it as low cost as possible? Hell nampa will cost you a hotel in most cases. I do see a regular GF as off limit reports but a first time success story with a stranger by the second date or so in a FOR SEX ONLY sex relationship does deserve a space.
Pink Salon update:I went to Pinochio (?s?m?L?I) sp close to that, anyways -- which is on the 2F of the Shibuya chinese estute building. It's basically in the same building as the SKY Hip Hop club, if you want to ask directions discreetly. Same setup as 21, 2 girl rounds. No foreigners that I could see, but gaijin friendly (they let me in). 6000jpy/30min - before 8pm and I had 1000y ticket.Girl 1 -Mako (??) seems mid 30's petite, shaved (YEY) and nice nipples. She came hard as I fingered her tight little pussy and ass. Her BJ technique was good, but her mouth was a little small for me. Nonethless I had an excellent pop and she didn't rush letting me have a nice prolonged orgasm.Girl 2 - ?? Mid 20's and chunky. But cute face and total bakunyu (unusually large tits) Very sensitive nipples, partly shaved (Yey again). I was pretty spent from the first pop, but those tits were just too fine! She started a nice minty BJ and voila! First j-girl I've been with that could <almost> deep throat me. I enjoyed the precious feeling scant seconds before the timer and blew a nice secondary across those lovely pears!Normal price before 8pm is 7000JPY, 1k more than 21 and well worth it. I'm pretty sure its the 'home' location of the 21 chain - but they don't advertise too much. Been there 26yrs according to Mako.I'll be back! Just a note - both girls were anxious to rim my ass, so if you go there, be prepared and clean up well - YMMI (Your mileage may improve). No sex rule, but I have a feeling you could get a little more friendly than is mentioned on the rules.
About the necessity of nampa ... I largely agree about the purpose and intent of the board. However, in Japan especially, its good to know about nampa, because:a) Unlike most other countries, you DO have a great chance at picking up freebies. And the nampa intent is acknowledged and loosely respected among the women that go to places be nampa'd. So, in a way, it's like hitting a stroll, but you gotta be a little 'playa' with your attitude to get what you want - but in the end you will!b) The girls working in the esute's, pink salons and other gaijin friendly places are likely to give you ALOT better service if you approach them with a little nampa instead of all cash. And, who knows, you might get some denwa bango (phone numbers) that lead to extended, less costly encounters.Typical japanese in any of these clubs turn on the nampa full bore. That's the technique they use and have huge success in pulling girls from any sector. So, when in Tokyo - do as they do! That's my rant about why nampa is important to understand here -and how it can help you improve your mileage, WG or freebie.
Opebo / Others - found this pretty good link on Nampa. I love the quotes by "Master Po" and "Kwai Chang Caine". Good stuff! Enjoy!http://www.japan-zine.com/0309/Feature.htm
Looks like I started something here. Chikan, excellent link. Just reading it got me hyped up. Whoever wrote that did an excellent job. Anyone that does not know what Nampa means now knows all the variations. My favorite quote is"Time and Place - "You must wait for the moment. . . . For at the right time all may be reached." - Master Po" In other words, timing is everything.I suspect a good use of the word Nampa as applies to this forum would be to use it as a means of negociation with the higer priced, delivery girls. when they are on the phone with you and when they start to say they want this extra and that extra, just say, well maybe I will just go out and Nampa tonight and call you later. The tune and respect should change quickly when they suspect you have Nampa power. Soujourn. agreed that Nampa treatment works with all types of arrangements. Definately leads to denwa bango, and GFE. This never happens anywhere else.Allen Eire, you bring up a interesting prospect of gaigun practicing Nampa on J girls in the USA. Not many guys realize the prospects here. To be armed with that knowledge would be incredible. What would be the japanese word for that type of Nampa man, anyone?Nampanator, (love that name) I think you are in the worst possible position. Not knowing Japanese would be a disadvantage but you could turn this around if you display a great command of English as they may want to improve English capabilities. You also probably treat them different and that is good if you can get past the intro.
Nampanator
12-09-03, 00:02
Yea, an excellent article, didn't realize there were multiple variations of nampa. Endowed, thanks for reaffirming my suspicions. Luckily, I was born and raised in the US, so my english IS excellent - and I do know SOME Japanese, just not enough to flirt with. I guess the hard part will be convincing them that I AM a gaijin (that just sounded kinda weird). Or maybe I should just stroll through Shinjuku again and have someone from the health salons approach me.Actually, my situation is kinda funny when I think about it - I'll be in Japan with 2 of my friends - one of them is a white Jewish guy, but has 4+ years of Japanese under his belt, so he's pretty fluent. Then there's me, the Asian American who knows as much as a kindengartener, and lastly my other friend who only knows Mandarin and English. Maybe between the 3 of us and some ventriloquism we can score a girl :)
Allen Eire
12-09-03, 06:42
Endowed,I reside in the SF Bay Area and we get many J-tourists but timing is key, you know right place at the right time. When that little incident happened in Vegas an older fella on the trolley says to me "Why the Hell aren't you getting off and going after them." Well I was on my way to meet the wife at our hotel then head to the airport. I was in Los Angeles for biz earlier in the year and stayed in J-town hoping to run into some hot J-girl tourists but nothing doing. Anyway I'm going to shut down this conversation since it is getting off topic but I'd love to get over to Japan and mingle with the gals, especially those hard up housewives!
Hi guys,Nice to read all these crucial information about nampa. I tried it couple times and succeeded only once. Even if Shibuya is full of girls waiting for nampa, I found it hard to score at Hachiko. Anyone did?Regarding to G-style in Shibuya, got FS with Shiro. No the best body but still very nice, a good BBBJ technique, and she is very enthousiatic. I was her first gaijin, get impressed by Mr. X, then asked me how do I finish usually. I just said "Sex (honban) but it is forbidden here right?", she replied she has condoms so we started a 10 min FS session. I have been asked the same question before by Yuka, replied the same sentence and also got FS. Is is the key word?Anyway, for those (like me) who cannot score at anytime in nampa, we still have so nice establishments ;)One question, is it better to go alone to the bars to pick girl? I think they are always in group, so hard to make one leave her friends for the night. Any tip? If you are in your late 20s, do you have chance or better be older? Actually, I like J-girls older than me (30s).Have a nice time. Xmas and New Year are coming, guess it is gonna be a hunting festival across Tokyo soon.
Fredo - I have had Hachiko reccomended to me also. It is fairly obvious when you get there that there are lots of people waiting for others and kind of fascinating that there is a place where you can go exclusively for this. When you are meeting someone there you can really get caught up in the spirit of the place, especially when your date is a little late. I think most women are there on a pre-arranged meeting and so they are not there just to meet a stranger. However, I have heard otherwise and the web link on Nampa mentions going after the one who is just stood up. I just don't have the time to try out Hachiko just for the sport of it, maybe someone else can and report. I did notice a fair number of guys sniffing around there. If you get bored S 21 is about 4 minutes away.Allen Eire - I have noticed that when J girls are on vacation in another country they tend to travel in large groups and are very shy. They think they are in a dangerous place and will not take well to Nampa like they will in home country. This was apparent when I got nowhere with some of my usual ploys when in Hawaii.Also they have to spend like 2 days of their vacation shopping for unreal numbers of souvenirs.Nampa in Japan is unique and definately part of the sex scene. I know a girl who encourages Nampa by walking her little dog in the YoYogi Park so always approach these types. They are practicing, gyakunan.En
Didn't mean to touch a nerve here with the freebie stories, guys. Info on the paid sex scene is important, but the non-paid is just as critical. My chapter-long post earlier was written to share with you several points. 1) The WSG is a forum to discuss how to get into the fairer sex's pants, paid or not; 2) It is an example of how quickly your luck can score here in Japan...three weeks ago, I was beggin', now I've got a full agenda. Hey, in Japan, when it rains, it pours; 3) The moral of that post also is go for the older OLs/career women or those who are - ahem - attached.Endowed - J girls overseas...books could be written about this. Nampa overseas, like in Japan, depends on timing. My experience is different than yours in that it works better in resort areas (Bali, Singapore, Hawaii, etc.), but not so well in urban destinations (New York, London, etc.) for the reasons you outline. I would venture to guess that in the resort areas, their guard is down anyway. I have scored in Hawaii and Singapore, but the closest I have come in a city was getting an old keitai number when I was hitting on a J chick in NYC back in 1998. Anyone have different observations?
ShazamNow that you mention it, Hawaii is a good place for Nampa. I remember now that I was in the hotel outdoor hot tub in Hawaii when 2 J girls came down for a soak after a long day of bus touring. I introduced myself using my limited Japanese and they opened up. Turns out that one of them worked in a Roppongi club. They were "tired" so I set up a meeting for the next night but my S.O. had other ideas and I had to drop the ball. I also have a friend in Alaska that worked with a tour group that set up trips to see the Northern Lights or "Aurora" catering to Japanese clients. It is believed by the Japanese that if you concieve a child under the Northern Lights the child then has some type of special power. Many couples honeymoon in Fairbanks but the interesting thing was, my friend says there where many guys that would pack lots of condoms, leaving them in the room and it would be older men with young women. I am wondering if this is a favorite destination for executives and if the Aurora is considered some type of aphrodisiac? Anyone have any ideas or experiance with this?En~
I plan to be in Tokyo in February. I?m interested in recommendations on some good AMPs and what major hotels would be convenient to these establishments. Full service is not necessary but a good finish by a good young lady is.Thanks in advance.
Endowed,Adjust your strategy and tactics to your environment. Nanpa techniques in Japan won't necessarily works other places. I've never had nanpa opportunities in Japan, but I'll make the leap to assume it's mostly a solo pick-up game. However, if J-girls travel overseas in packs (and they do), then you'll need find some friends to keep that 1:1 ratio. Intel reports from the Waikiki J-girl Nanpa operatives I've known say that, in general, to successfully break-up a J-girl pack (for hotel room boom-boom), you need to have a 1:1 guy-girl ratio. The 'belonging to group' and 'saving face' are major factors here. Highly unlikey that 1 or 2 girls will stray off from the group with a couple guys.I concur with Shazam. Remote/resort areas are best bets. Hawaii is marginal for nanpa, try Guam or Saipan for better results.Cheers,JFX
Woody For Asians
12-11-03, 11:11
Jon Jones,Japan has "soaplands" for body massage with sex. I wouldn't even loosely compare them with "AMPs" in the USA (soaplands are much better). However, unless you are Japanese or have an influential Japanese friend to accompany you, or speak Japanese and get lucky, you probably won't be able to gain admission to one. One exception to this is Arena in Yoshiware. It is first class and they will probably admit you if you can afford their services.You might find a nice freelancer to visit you in your hotel for about 30,000 yen. Check the archives for information.In Tokyo everything is convenient by train, subway, and bus.Woody4asians
While its true that Soaplands are not really comparable to AMPs in the States, Chinese and Korean estes are pretty close, relatively speaking. I would recommend Joe check this board for tips about ones in Shibuya, Ueno and elsewhere.
Hi, I will be staying at Harajuku and Ikebukuro, does anyone know of any pink salons, soapland,ect. in those areas?Hope to get some info as I live next week for 2 weeks.
Any recommendations on hotels within a reasonable walking distance of the Kabuki-cho District?Thanks in advance.
I haven' t been on the board for a couple weeks so sorry to those who were asking about Yushima. The establishment in question is above the AM/PM. 8000/9000 for anything. Very up and up. About a 7 minute walk from Ueno station bordering the red light district.As for Soapland, Ueno's New York New York and Champs D'Elysees (next door) are a great deal at 9200 for an hour.
Hey Sailing and others guys,I like to read post about adult party. Please, can you write the name of "mise" (the party name)? Are you going to Roe, Figo (Shin Okubo) or Runi (Takadanobaba), Sweet (Okubo) all listing at Yukan home Page or not?Anybody has trying Cosmos in Shin Okubo? They are friendly to foreigner? At least, on HP Yukan the pictures of the girls are so beauty.
JJ,The Shinjuku Prince is right there near Seibu Shinjuku Station, and right in Kabuki-cho is the Hotel Vintage Shinjuku. Up near the hospital stroll is the business hotel "Nut Club" (I'm not joking, thats the name). There's a few other business hotels sprinkled about too.
Skinless - "you have mail!" Cheers! Chikan
Rick Steves
12-15-03, 10:18
OK, here's a real long-shot question: Do Japanese porn stars ever do escorting on the side? I have a thing for Akira Fubuki, and I'll be in Japan in mid-January. If there is Japanese service that is similar to the following U.S. outfit, please share the URL.http://www.exotica-2000.com/Your friend in travel,Rick
Rick, I don't know about Akira, but I do know that Porno actresses can be had. The costs are high. One of my friends is an AV (adult video, ie Porno) person who works from time to time at soaps in Yoshiwara, she charges 60-80K that is just an benchmark I know Akira is hot but it could be rather costly. Hey, you are willing to part with it write to her, I am sure she has a web site and ask if she is available.
AsiaTraveler2
12-16-03, 02:30
Kanda;The problem with New York New York, is the woman are old .. 40's and not very good looking. Never tried Champ. AT2
Jon Jones,As others have mentioned the Soaplands in Yoshiwara are great places. You should expect to pay 35,000 to 60,000 for a 60-70 minute visit with full service. Many places will not admit foreigners, but many will. My advice is to simply walk down the streets of Yoshiwara, especially during daylight, and see which doormen call to you. If they ignore you, then they probably don't want foreigners.Yoshiwara is not far from the Minowa subway station. I have attached a map of how to get to Yoshiwara. I marked exits 1b and 3 of Minowa station. Note that if you use exit 3, and look across Meiji Dori Avenue, you will see a McDonald's restaurant.Good luck,Viagrant
What are the directions to New York New York in Ueno?
AsiaTraveler2
12-16-03, 06:06
RE: NY NY .. There's a McDonalds about a block from Keisei Station. Across the street from McDonalds is a convenience store. Pass the convenience store and make the first right down that "entertainment" lane. You'll see a bunch of bars and eating holes. Go down that lane and I believe you make a left on the 2nd or 3rd lane. On the right hand side you will see it. About 20-30 feet down the lane. I think it's a subtle Red White and Blue outside. I think you will see NY NY somewhere on the frontage, but can't recall for sure. Only older below average woman the one time I visited. Did not see any lookers and actually wanted my money back and would not recommend it.AT2
ViagrantThanks for your suggestions. A map is more than I could have expected! Tokyo seems somewhat on the expensive side but as a once in a lifetime experience, I?ll give it a try.Jon
Rick Steves
12-16-03, 19:02
Sailing,Thanks for the suggestion about contacting Akira Fubuki directly. However, I haven't been able to find anything that looks like her official website. All I find are sites like this, which don't have a fan email address.http://www.akira-fubuki.com/The problem may be that I'm searching in English. Any tips for finding Japanese language web sites if you're an English-only gaijin?
Picky Dicky
12-16-03, 19:29
http://www.clubboo.com/frames/home.html
Okay, here is some news:Tried "Paradise" KMT, thanks to this board! Great deal! Others please post more information about KMT (Korean Massage Parlours). An "assisted shower" is you lying on a leather table and the girl washes your back side, then turn over and your front! Like playing doctor....did I love it! :) Then a real good professional massage and then nude bodyrub, then nude HJ! Amazing! 10,000 yen, an unbeatable price for Japan. I didn't tip as tipping is considered insulting in Japan, and since Korea is considered a partnership in principle, I didn't do it, nor was I asked to. So, okay.Sorry guys, Japanese upper level required to get in there or forget it. No English. There's no need to ever use a CMT Este rip-off scheme in Tokyo again. So, please post MORE KMT information that is out there! I can get in, so tell me more! :)On the Yoshiwara/Soapland subject. Upper level honorific Japanese is really required to get into the serious Japanese places and they are expensive, usually a premium charge is placed on foreigners. As for train station stop, foreigners getting off the nearby subway stop are usually known as to why they are getting off there, there is no other reason for it. When I made my reservation to the place I went to, it was advised to use Yamanote's Uguisudani station and walk. I paid 75,000 yen during the 134 yen to the dollar, but I had to have that one during my horny peak days! :) Great moment in history for me and I even got a free ride back to the Yamanote!Some places take foreigners at Soapland, like Arena (I did not go there). If you can get into SL, try it once. After, you'll go to Bangkok 5 times.Gyaos
I am heading to Tokyo today, any recommendations for a good place under 10000 yen? Is the clap thing over with? If so, where is seki 21?
Most of the "love hotels" are under 10000, but you must check in after 2200 or 2300. For people travelling on a budget, I would recomment the youth hostel in Yoyogi.
IvanSearch my posts for directions to 21 and a photo. I don't know if they are clean but you could always cover the banana.En~
I was walking around the Kawasaki soapland district and a doorman invited me in-- it seems that in some soaplands there are girls who have said yes to foreigners so I was accepted. The cost was maybe 20,000 yen and she was maybe a 6 or so-- a bit chubby but it was fs and a full body wash.She said that there were a few girls who took foreigners so it's worth a shot if you are into the soapland scene.Happy hunting
Arena SoaplandsFrom reading previous posts, this place seems to be the most gaigin friendly. From a cut and paste computer translation the price is 30,000 yen for 120 minutes which would also make Arena one of the least expensive soaplands. Could a Japanese speaker please confirm the translation of the price and does this cover everything or is that just the house fee?Their website is:http://www.yosiwara.com/arena/index.htmlI'm going to Japan for the first time in March so any insights would be appreciated, thanks.
For Arena, that is the house fee. Be prepared to pay 75,000 yen if you are not Japanese. I did not reserve Arena when I went. Good luck!Gyaos
Hi,A quick update.Just back from China, miss it already. Went to Hino. Sat with MiMi, nice girl, honestly gfe. But damn, a shower once a week would help! Offered FS, declined based on RPO (repulsive pussy odour) After BJ went to the loo and swabbed with alcohol and poured some iodine mouthwash down my prick. Let you know in 3 days if I'm still alive! I seriously doubt I'll visit again.On a positive note: Here's a map to a <new> pink salon in Shibuya. No reports yet, but will probably accept foreign guys and as it's new, probably good service. That makes 4 places within 5min walk of each in Shibuya.http://www.s-elo.com/map/map.htmlCiao
Hello,Cheap places (relatively) to stay in Tokyo.Guest houses outside the Yamanote loop. Like Nakano - you can stay there for around 2k/nite. Hotel Nut Club right on the hospital stroll in Shinjuku. Most love hotels are only 3000 - 4500 for 3/4hrs. If you want tostay all nite then its less than 10k, and alot nicer than most business hotels... unless... you stay in Shimbashi or Kanda or towards that area. Many business hotel near the Kanda Yamanote station from 5500 up. Other wise - just hit the Chuo line and head west! Once you are past Nakano the prices drop dramatically - but the time to ge back in Tokyo increases almost exponentially.
Crazy Jim Wood
12-23-03, 10:17
Hi all,Update on Yokosuka situation (see my post of 11-02-03 for more info). I visited the Korean massage parlor (KMP) Rich a few times over the past month.(Please see map for exact locations).I had previously avoided Rich because the entrance is very exposed. You can easily find it, it is right next to KMP Venus, on Dobuita-dori, the street that runs parallel to route 16. It has an obnoxious yellow door that opens right into the street.See my post of 11-02-03 for detailed directions.When you enter, you go up the stairs right into the main room. The massage tables are behind curtains only, no walls, so it is a little drafty.However, I was always the only customer and their was only one girl (Yuki) and mama-san (Ms Shin). They said another girl comes over when a ship is in port.Yuki gave great service, massage, bbbj, sumata and we chatted for an hour or so until mama-san yelled at us.Shower available, assisted if you like, but no room for body shampoo table and with the draft, why bother?Price was right, 10,000 for bbbj, sumata. Older girl but service was great. Bbbj is not the standard in Yokosuka so some might find added value there, although it made me a little nervous (but it was good).
Hey Fats, your guess was right it is 30k for 120 minutes. However, it is true that this price only reflects the house fee. They are open from 11am till 12pm. If you call the number, they will pick you up from a number of stations in the Ueno area. If you need the names of the station, tell me and I will post them in alphabet format.Have fun, and don't forget to share the experience with us!
Crazy Wood Jim....Thanks for the intel. I am brand spanking new to Japan. I have seen the sign for Orange when I walked past Mikasa Mall the other day. How does it rate? I have been told the FS is a no-no in Yokosuka and that I would have to venture to Yokohama for it. Is this true? What about the chicks hanging out in the neighborhood near Denny's. They look like hookers but none of them has said a thing to me. What's the deal with them?
Hey,Just found another adult party in Takadanobaba which is staffed with J-girls I have not checked out the quality of the place as yet, I have been waiting to find out whether some of the guys that have wanted me to take them are going or not. If not I will go alone to check out the place but if they are in I don`t want to pay again to go. I don`t know whether they will take non-Japanese guys but they said they would take my friend, I just didn`t mention that my "friend" was not Japanese.
Crazy Jim Wood
12-26-03, 08:59
Tocsin,I visited Orange once or twice under its previous management. Girl was young but not experienced. There was no table shower offered. I recommend Ruby first, since it has a table shower.I was at Ruby a few weeks back and they had a hard body, young attendant, looked just like one of the hard bodies you see in Waikiki, blonde hair, nutty brown skin, no tan line, nicely toned muscles, who gave very good service, decent CBJ, but she has now moved on (to Kinugasa). Very sexy, looks Japanese, even has a good Japanese accent, but is Korean to the core. I got her number and am planning to visit here over the holiday season at her new location and will make a full report. Maybe she will be up for a one-on-one...As for the others, Venus, Rich, Orange, the choice really boils down to location (Venus and Rich are very exposed, Orange is in a back alley) availability (all can be crowded on Friday-Saturday night) and which girl/management you prefer.Or, since I haven't been to Orange under its new management and their haven't been any reports on it, maybe you can go there and make the first report. Who knows, they may have a table shower now.With the Korean places, you are guaranteed good service at fair price as long as you don't go on a busy weekend night.As for the warren back behind Denny's, those look like Japanese-only high priced cabaret-type clubs. I believe the girls at Denny's are your average amateurs and would probably react to you the way any other girl would, insane giggling, running away. etc.As to FS, I believe it is impossible in the shop (or will get the girl fired). FS is out but sumata is nice not the same but no condom no worries of STD...If you must have FS, date her. Half the time they just give you their number so they can get your business, but even massage girls have to fuck sometime so if you click with a girl visit her and only her a few times, take her out once or twice for drinks on slow nights, then date her on her one night a month off for free.Good luck,CJW
Hi guys,I am planning to visit Tokyo in February for couple days. I don't speak Japanese language. Can someone recommend an escort that can help me getting around the city and accompany me at nights? Or can someone give me some input? Where to live? Where to go?I only have couple days so I like to spend my time as wisely as possible.Thanks in advanced for your help.
Crazy Jim Wood
12-27-03, 11:50
The internet address says it all, "Miss Puke." (http://home.att.ne.jp/moon/mebius/misspuke/)I visited the Yaesu location (2 minute walk from JR Tokyo Station) today.Rates were high (12,000 for full body, 16,000 full body w/ oil) and the special package deal (testicular massage) was an extra 2-3,000. Well, the combination of price, the words 'full-body' and the package deal (please excuse pun) seemed to guarantee a happy ending. At any Korean place, this would be 90 min topped with sumata.Well, I got an excruciaitng massage which I only endured since I thought I would be rewarded in the end. Then after 2 hours of hell, she's like, 'wait a minute, the shower is almost ready.'For some people who actually go there for the massage they might like it, but I was like, 'The shower's what? That's it?'Then I got the package deal as an add-on (no pun intended here either) and she gave a 30 minut testicular massage. Well, I know I don't have prostrate cancer now, but she wouldn't touch the shaft. She said that would be sexual and Miss Puke is a reputable massage parlor. Well I'll be damned if a ball massage without touching the shaft is not the most medeival and f*cked up thing... from now on instead of saying "you're the type of guy whould would f*ck someone up the assh*le without a reach around" I can say "you're the type of guy whould would massage someones package without touching the shaft."She was very sweet about it, but she said that the police hassle them all the time, so they are strictly legit.Well, unless you are going there for the massage, stay away from Miss Puke. Also watch out for their other locations in Ikebukuro, Machida, etc.While ambling around the area, I also saw a Shanghai-style esute (they said no release) and a Korean place called Kora or something like that. I didn't go in there, so there is still hope of release within 5 minutes of Tokyo station, but that reoprt will have to wait until another day.
In reiteration:Please read my earlier posts and those of Skinless. Then you fellow mongers won't be wasting your money on flakey esute services that abound in Tokyo.Again, in Shibuya area, if you simply walk from the JR east exit just to the 2nd right of 109 you will pass Gas Panic on your right.1) Opposite HMV, Century 21 and another pink salon2) Just past the next intersection next to Club Pure on the right - 2F - Pink Salon, 5F, 6F Chinese esute that has best gorls and service. Look for the young chinese woman tout and her friend 'Yo'. He will give you preferred service, just mention S- Set.Walking from East exit, just right of 109 towards Citibank on the left. Before McDonalds turn left. About 25m you will see sign for E-L-O, a new Pink Salon.Refer to Skinless posts for Okubu action.Refer to other posts for Yokohama and other strolls.At the minimum:Pink Salons: 8kjpy for 1 or 2 girls - BBBJ/ 30min. Arrive between 5pm - 7pm for better discount.Esute: 15kjpy - 60min FS, unrushed and pleasantGaijiin Friendly Health or Image: 45min - 15kjpy - BBBJ, sumata, maybe FS depending on your rapport.Gaijiin Friendly Escorts: 60min, massage, BBBJ, maybe FS - up to 30kJPYOther options:Sex Parties: Need to talk to Sailing or other Japanese native to participate.Nanpa: Use your own skills and hit the hot spots like Motown, Heartland, etcHave a happy!
Crazy Jim,Again..,. thanks for the superb intel.I am used to other types of AMP scenes like the ones in Washington, DC and San Francisco. Very good massages and pretty damn good sex. If you are in DC, try Downtown. In SF, try eiither King's or Empire. I am also a veteran of the Tijuana club scene. ANything like that here for foreigners? I hear that there exists Filipina farms... code word for sex parties. Not orgies but meeting places for women who will have sex with you for money... much like the Tijuana scene but in private apartments.Later
Crazy Jim Wood
12-28-03, 10:47
Tocsin,I believe I have been to King's in SF before. Doggy with a rather buxom lass of Korean extraction if my memory serves me. Unfortunately haven't had the pleasure of Tijuana.As for Tokyo FS, soaplands are pricey but seem to work. I was up on the Kyushu scene, nice Soaplands there, but I haven't been to any in the Kanto plains so can't help you there.I generally don't push the MPs for FS. Sometimes I just want her to do all the work, sans latex. It's also cheaper. And you can always get the real deal on the side.Now Sailing seems to be the FS guru in this area. He is starting to get me interested in his nefarious parties.Not to change the subject, but did you sample Orange's saucy delights?Share your report with us all!
For those of you into the KMP scene, I just returned from the Nippori 'Paradise'. I stupidly volunteered to give the guy 10,000 at the start, thinking that would be the whole cost-- but when the girl had me on the shower table, she asked for another 3k.. so I ended up paying her.. at total of 13k. Anyway the girl, Naomi was short and cute, body a bit dumpy but not bad. She gave a great massage and excellent hand job and sumata, where she got the closest to penetration without actually penetrating.It was a great hj, and I was able to DATY as well.I asked her about foreigners and she said there was no problem. You wont get fs here, but its a good massage and a happy ending. The place is clean and there are about 5 girls working the place. Just be nice to the girls and we wont ever have a problem getting in.
Crazy Jim Wood
12-30-03, 00:24
D Jamm,When I went to Nippori Paradise they had a sliding payment plan, the HJ was 8k, plus 2k for nude HJ, plus 3k for sumata. The sumata option was not offered at the door but was offered by the girl in the room. So, the 10k probably included a HJ and she only wanted 3k more for sumata.Mermaid KMP:Went to new (new to me) KMP Sunday night. Halfway between JR Yokohama's Sagamihara Station and Yabe Station.Price was right, 11k for nude massage and sumata. I think it was 8k for basic service.Facilities did not include table shower, but otherwise were very nice, and the shower was assisted if not on a table.Nice girl, beautiful skin, not a single blemish on her body (and I looked). Beautiful face, large almond eyes, full lips, red hair and a nice, friendly attitude. Slender but not bony, small breasts with nice nipples, classic Korean beauty. Only faintest aroma of kimchi. But then, these days I get hard when I smell kimchi.Started with assisted shower. Said she was a college student, into foreigners and we talked about movies, pop music, etc. On to CBJ, then sumata, cowgirl hand in front, cowgirl hand in back, as she leaned over me supporting herself with her free hand with perky little breasts bouncing in my face. She got tired and wanted me to finish on top. It looked like she was actually enjoying it, she didn't moan loud and fake like they normally do, but her nipples got hard, her eyes rolled back in her head and she got chicken skin then afterward she said she was really hot and we took another shower together.Then the guy at the front came back and yelled at us to hury up. Seemed like he runs a tight ship, but maybe I'll go back and see how deep this girl's interest in the foreign devils runs.
Nampanator
12-31-03, 04:48
Guys, in Tokyo now, will be staying until the 10th or so. Just wanted to report that the new place, E-L-O, is not gaijin friendly. I used the directions to find it, and went up about 12:43. I explained to them that I knew a little Japanese, and if it was ok (I said it right off the bat because he might have confused me for a native, but my Japanese is not strong enough to answer any questions he might have had.) Unfortunately, he said something I did not understand, and made an X symbol, so I guess I was out of luck. Another hint to find it is to keep an eye out for a place on the first floor that says E Information. It is in pink, and it is not hard to miss. It is actually a resource for pink salons and other similar places around Tokyo, quite useful if you know Japanese. They even have PCs with Internet Access, from where I am typing right now. Kind of bummed, I hyped myself by going to their webpage (http://www.e-l-o.com), and now I am left empty handed. If only Hino and Seiki 21 didn`t still have that clap problem, I would have gone there in a second. Maybe someone in the area can help me out on this place? Sai? Endowed? I know it`s a new place, and am willing to try it out for the community here.
Nippori Paradise comments and questions.Great intel from D Jamm, Gyoas, Clomonger and Crazy Jim. It sounds like a gaijin winner for those of us who are just looking for HJ release without any risk of disease or pissing off (too much) our real girlfriend if she found out (heh).Are KMP (in particular, this KMP) licensed or unlicensed? Does it matter?Gyoas says upper level Japanese is required to get in while Crazy Jim say's it's gaijin friendly. Is it OK for us light skinned gaijin?What is the room layout? Do I need to protect my wallet, keys, extra cash, etc.? How do you protect it while you're "busy" taking a shower or getting a massage?Does the 8K/2K massage have a time limit? If so, how long?Do they let you put your finger in them and how do you find out if this is OK? Safe "non-sex" is what I'm curious about, no DATY, although that would be wonderful except for the risk.What is the layout of the "assisted shower" and how does it work?Sorry for the lame questions. In the future, I will have a very short amount of time to visit this place and I want to make sure of everything before I take the trip out to Nippori.Lastly, are there any other KMP like Paradise (gaijin-friendly, easy access, 10K or less, save non-sex HJ, around the Tokyo/Kawasaki/Yokohama area that are recommended)Akemashite Omedeto Gozaimasu, Happy New Year to all.
Crazy Jim Wood
01-01-04, 01:25
went to tsubame kmp last night (tsubame means "swallow" as in the bird--very auspicious name for a kmp in my book) between jr yokohama's sagamihara and yabe stations. it is only two stops from machida.i was actually on my way to mermaid but as i was waiting for the elelvator trying to figure out how to read mermaid's kanji name, the elevator door opened and all the mermaid girls walked out. they were all very beautiful and fashionable in their street clothes. the management did a nice job--they found a matched set of prancers, all the same slender, classic korean beauties. the one i saw the other night was like, "oh, it's you!" and told me sorry but they were all off to yokohama for new year's festivities. she was very apologetic and one of her friends reffered me to tsubame.tsubame is located on the 6th floor of the same building as mermaid, that fine establisment being on the 5th floor.the eleveator opens directly into the kmp. the girls were not matched like at mermaid and were a little bit more rustic, but variety is the spice of life. my date for the hour was very young with just a little acne on her face but otherwise skin was super smooth and had more pleasant rounding than the slim girls down stairs. she could actually sit on my back comfortably--those slender beauties always feel sharp. not a classic beauty perse, but quite agreeable for a roll in the hay.standard rates for kmps in this area--8,000 for basic service (40 min massage with hj), 11,000 for vip session (60 min, sumata). you get a member card and your 10th visit is on the house.girl didn't know what to do with foreign devil at first but she soon warmed up. even did some daty--which i never do on these girls. but she was so young and fresh, only in country for two months, not a hardened veteran just a college girl trying to scrape together funds for tuition, and when she put her small, tight cute ass in my face while doing the cbj i figured what the hell. only problem was she could have trimmed the hedge and edged the path, it was long enough to floss, but once i parted the undergrowth it was very firm, smooth and moist, quite delectable with no detectable odor or taste albeit just a little tingly, so seems like she used some type of antiseptic.unfortunately she would do no more than sumata and she seemed even a little bored with that so i had her finish with a very competent, unrushed hj sans latex. she was quite exuberant other than during sumata and we actually had like one neverending conversation from the time she led me back into her chambers until i left which made for a very enjoyable overall experience.highly recommend mermaid or tsubame if sumata with fine young koreans is your thing. very foreigner friendly although you have to know japanese or korean since they speak no english. meter parking on the street is free after 6 pm but tends to fill up after 9 pm.in addition to the mermaid-tsubame building, a little distant from the station, there are four kmps within a block of the sagamihara station itself, but it looks a little congested so i haven't been into that warren yet.cjw
Crazy Wood Jim:No... I have decided not to go to an MP is FS is not involved. PM me if one of those parties is on the horizon:Please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service.yeah... I have only seen Korean women work at King's (formerly Goldfinga)... Joanna and Candy were my favorites. I don't think either one works there anymore though Coco, on of the Mamasans seems to have been there for quite a while.There is a palce in DC called Downtown which has some of the best service for an AMP/KMP I have ever been to anywhere in the world. The place, however, looks shady when you make your way up the stairts but the establishment, once you get in, is A-J squared away.
Crazy JimYour best bet is to order them online from condomania.com the flavored disks or tuxedos are the best and have the added benefit of flavoring. I have even had chocolate.I have seen 65mm size plain janes in sex store in Kabuichou (fun to buy and wave around) but really have found nothing better than the Lifestyles disc for quality and convieniance.EN~
Hey friends! Im new here, but I would like to tell you my last week experience: After see the nice korean girls in home page, I called for adult party Cosmos in Shin Okubo but the manager told me sorry, "Japanese only". (excuse-me for this bad english, I'm not britain native, please Mr. editor, correct me). In the following day, I called for another adult party named Vanilla. I discovered in december at Roppongi and open since October. I found that they would go to say me of always, "japanese only". But, surprise! Welcome, since it says the basic japanese language. And the better, all the girls are J-girls. Anybody can understand this crazy system or rules? With korean girls at Cosmos / NO! But with japanese girls at Vanilla / YES. Nothing bad, isnt?The manager teach me the address by phone. In front of the mansion is possible to see the Roppongi Hills building. At entrance, the manager told me to be "yasashi" (kindly) with the girls.I enter for a single shot (16.000 yen) when going to Adult Party for the first time. In the living room, some 12 J-girls all beauty. What a lucky!! Nobody below 7 (1 to 10). Not fat girls or ugly. All cute, soft skin, style hair and dressing long or mini skirt. Some girls works as OL (office lady) and part time at adult party to make money extra. In the living room everybody feel "at home" and we drink beer or oolong tea, eat snacks, and they were all very pleasant. After a shower and chat with the girls I chose Miho. Long hair, slim, preatty and smile girl. She is little shy but really into GFE, 9 looks, 8 body, 9 personality, 8 service. Very kind and sweet. There is not rip off because you choice your girl. They are all kind.The rooms you go to with the girl is only separeted by a curtain, so you can hear the action going on in the next room. You feel in an orgy...Conversation and how nice you treat the girls is important in what kind of service you receive. I dont know if Miho and other girls are perfect hot actress, but they enjoy the sex time and the noise is loud, at least with Miho. She is very hot. I feel as working for an AV film. Miho cries of pleasure...Deep kiss, finger, DATY, covered BJ and grand finale with exciting FS is garanteed. I've found there is no another place so cheap to have FS and GFE with beauty J-girls as in adult party. In esthe, Massage Parlor or Escort services, sometime you have to pay extra charge to have FS or sumata. At Hinomaru FS is not garanteed. When you choose by home page or pictures, is rare to get the girl pictured. The manager always send you another girl. But not in adult party.If you pay double (24.000 yen) you can go first with a girl, thus, you have a break to recover for the second round, take shower, drink beer and choice another girl. I spent great times, some three hours there, drinking and chatting with beauty girls.I think everyone must try adult party, you can get relax and the girls is not in a hurry.I would return again for a double round. Cosmos?Bye bye
Frank Africa
01-02-04, 18:14
Dear Crazy Jim Wood:Re your post about the "Miss Puke" Thai parlor a few days ago, I was intrigued to read about a "30 minute testicular massage" - that's a first for me. Hmmm......Just a thought, but depending on how that particular massage is done (tugging, sucking, etc.) it almost sounds as if the girl could get you off without touching your shaft. But you're right, without touching the shaft, there doesn't seem to be much point in doing the testicular massage for that long a time.Finally, thanks for all of your great recent posts - very informative!
Tokyo Fun... after paying the 16,000 entry fee for the party, do you have to pay any extra for the girl. I was in Kawasaki last night and saw a few places that looked like they might be some fun but the prices ranged from 15,000 to 35,000 and that seemed a little too much to pay if all it got me was entry into the joint.
Tokyo Moose
01-03-04, 05:35
Toscin, TokyoFun, Sailing etc.I have noticed that there are many categories of parties in Tokyo. Couple Kissaten, Happening bars and true parties. The average for the parties seems to be 15,000 yen. I called one and was invited to participate but I declined at that time.I would be intersted in exchanging information on these parties as well. I have found many in Japanese on the web. If one can speak conversational Japanese there seem to be many opportunites.
Here is a picture across the street from Century 21 and associated map location. The picture is crap, but you should get the drift along with the map!http://www.at-navi.com/map/checkMap.jsp?datum=0&unit=0&lat=%2B35.39.36.41&lon=%2B139.41.56.82&fm=0
Here is a picture and associated map for just up the street from 21. You will see outside a displayboard with various services offered on all floors (2F,3F,5F,6F) and the basement is a club/bar called SKY. 2F is a good pink salon, 6F is a good esute - ask for O-Yo and say you want the S-Set. 15k all inclusive.http://www.at-navi.com/map/checkMap.jsp?datum=0&unit=0&lat=%2B35.39.39.29&lon=%2B139.41.50.07&fm=0
Crazy Jim Wood
01-03-04, 17:53
Just got back from Party Runi at Takadanobaba. Only two girls, both cute, sampled both, Yuki was the hotty with the naught body good service Sari was inexperienced just like a winsome school girl. Poor Sari I when I pulled out her neck was bent and her head was pushed up against the wall. Then it looked like some natto followed me out of her--long strands of goo stuck to Little Jim. Good thing my number one son had his raincoat on. When I got to the shower there was more stuck to me loins I picked some off with me fingers for closer inspection it looked like female cum not natto at that point but when I smelled it it didn't have that distinctive aroma of female cum or any odor at all for that matter. Perhaps it was jelly churned to afroth or just your run of the mill snail trail. However without lab analysis I do not think we can ever be sure of the provenance of the mysterious substance. Didn't really like the 20 minute egg timer. Neither girl was strict about the timer, seems the policy is to give a 5 minute grace period, but we had to stop to turn off the alarm each time which pretty much spoiled the mood :-<Another weird thing the girls kept pulling out fistfulls of tissue folding them over and champing on them with their lips and then they would furiously wipe their lips and mouth. They did this over and over like cats cleaning their whiskers. I asked them why but they just pretended not to hear. Curiouser and curiouser.Other than having to work against the clock during bouts and competing with the TV for the girls' attention between bouts it was very nice. I guess I'm going to have to get my own egg timer at home and beat Little Jim mercilessly until he gets his finish time down to 20 minutes. Maybe I'll have the neighbors come over while I beat Little Jim behind a curtain so I can get him used to actual race conditions :->Total damage 22,000.You can find directions at www dot yukan dot net.Also have a menage-a-trois option. Maybe next time.CJW
Burusera, Panties, etc.Any intel on Final Fantasia in Shibuya? It was busted a few years go (do a google search with ->"final fantasia" shibuya<- to read the news articles. He seems to be back in business now at: http://burusera.jp/indextop.html and appears to be thriving again. I think it had something to do with acquiring an antiques or used clothing license or something like that.Did the public panties business move to the Internet once they were shutdown five years ago? Last year, I spoke with a guy at a video store in Kabukicho who spoke pretty good English and he said all the shops were shutdown so it's impossible to find these goods at a retail establishment anymore.Any intel or advice is welcomed.I know this is a huge business in Japan but it's virtually impossible to participate as a gaijin due to the language barrier.
JR Recon trip -1) I checked out a couple strolls I haven't visited for awhile - namely, Uguisudani and Otsuka. Daytime prowl roughly 1pm - 4pm.2) Uguisudani - exit and the turn right parallel to the tracks. Many Love Hotels and quite a few Chinese and Thai SG. Mostly in their 30's and over, ugh! But if you're looking to bang older chinese *****s, this is a good place. Maybe at night the cute, younger ones come out - they used to. Pretty much untouched by gaijiin swarm - you should speak some japanese or mandarin. Rough costs from brief conversation seem to be in the 10kJPY range.3) Otsuka - exit and go left across the street. Go on the street between Starbucks and the Koban. ALot of PInk Salon and other clubs. I asked a tout about a PInk Salon and he said, sure if I want to go. Not sure if many are gaijiin friendly - I didn't check to close or ask alot of questions. Seems to be a delivery girl hangout, too. Again, prolly wakes up around 9pm.4) Went back to Shin-Okubo and walked the Skinless trail to Shinjuku. Not much except a few stragglers in the 1- 3 range. The hospital stroll was empty because LE was driving around. Went into Hino to see who was working - nothing I would sit with - same skanky, smelly J-girls that I saw last month and almost made me wretch.5) On to Shibuya -- 6th Floor esute - it was open early and I visited 'MiMi' - sweet, young Shanghaiese with puppy eyes and smooth skin. All over body-to-body massage and then extras in many positions. Well sated, as always! The girls here are very hygiene conscious, alot of japanese visit, and are usually pretty decent as far as technique. They will hurry you - but as long as you're clear with the mama~san on the time, don't let it bother you. Smile and enjoy a little Shanghai downtown Tokyo.Ciao
Crazy Jim Wood
01-05-04, 01:43
For your viewing pleasure, pictures of Takadanobaba Party Runi (taken from their webpage on Yukan dot net).Notice all the girls mesmerized by the television. Couldn't find Yuki's pic on the website, but that looks like her and it is the same dress there watching television. Sari's a 19 yo cutey. But watch out for her Jinro-hai, it'll put you under the table.Used the curtained chamber next to the wall (a little chilly) and the one in the middle (much nicer, that's the one in the picture).Yes, the party is definitely something to do again.CJW
Tokyo Fun,Please contact me for some additional information on Vanilla. It sounds like the best value for money in Tokyo. Thanks in advance.[Email address deleted by Admin]EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to removal of email addresses in the text. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please use the Forum's Private Messaging system to communicate directly with other Forum Members. Thanks!
Crazy Jim Wood
01-05-04, 04:28
I looked at Paichu webpage again AF queen Maki is still there but not working today.It looks like they offer AF as an option but not FS. Are they Catholic or are they just being coy? Is FS guaranteed?Anyone have recent info on Paichu and Maki?
Fellow Mongers,I am on my way to Tokyo tomorrow, and would like to find a place for a nice BBBJ at least. Any information would be fantastic. I speak no Japanese. Thanks!!-RPD
Crazy Jim Wood,FS is not on the menu at Paichu.Nevertheless, if you know the girl, meaning if you are a regular customer of hers, you may be granted what you look for. It may take you several visit before though.As for the AF, ye you can get it with Maki and one or 2 othe girls. And between you and me, once you have had it, the girl does not make a difference about refusing you the FS. You just have to change the socks. If you like this way, it worth paying the little extra they ask for.But remember, you need to speak a minimum of Japanese otherwise they will not trust that you can follow the rules...Enjoy anyway. I did yesterday !Wolf
Crazy Jim Wood
01-05-04, 07:14
Wolf,Nice posts on Dalian.As for Paichu, Japanese is no problem (how do you say squeal like a pig?) but if they allow AF what other rules are they worried about?I just thought I must be missing something if they offer AF (for only 5k extra) but no FS. This may be a dumb question, but based on other posts in the forum where the customer received the AF, in this case she is on the receiving end, right? Surprises can be a pain in the ass.Aside from Maki which other girls give up the brown eye to the round eye?Also, I know they do delivery to hotel, but do they service you on the premises as well? Is it better to do the hotel?Thanks,CJW
CJWIt seems to me that Ryu does it. As well as Hitomi.But only if feeling ok to do it. A friend of mine succeeded to have AF with her. Tukasa does it according to her resume on the website.But the Queen is Maki. I tried once and she makes it very pleasant as she really likes it.You have to make your request first to the guy at the office. But you also could offer to the girl. Some of them can be convinced with some extras. Same apply to FS.Also, note that it is not because you have been accepted for AF that you will succeed to get FS. It really depends on the girl.And yes, there are places (one in Gotanda) where when they reffer to Anal Sex they really mean that YOU will be the one to receive. Not the girl.Another friend of mine succeeded to get there about 2 months ago. He mentioned that the start was very enjoyable with a very good ass rim but that suddenly the girl introduced what he thought to be her finger but then discovered it was a probe !Needless to say he dislike it a lot.... Wouldn't you ?EnjoyWolf
Crazy Jim Wood
01-05-04, 08:41
Wolf,Thanks for the info. Guess I will wait until Maki is available.Here's my golden rule for rimjobs: girl must complete all circles.What about the service location, is everything at a hotel or can you get serviced at Paichu to save 5k?Later,CJW
CJW,The service is provided in a nearby hotel. Nothing in the shop. Only photos !They will propose you one of the 6 love hotels next door. You can also suggest one on your own. They'll give you a discount card for the room.Once you'll get in the room, you call them back, remind them which girl you are waiting for and provide your room number. The girl will come within 10mn. The countdown starts only after she gets acquainted which in some cases (when you know the girl) could provide you a 10mn extra.Maki will work on Jan 7th from 12:00 noon to 22:00. You should book her in advance if you do not plan to be there as from 12:00 as she is quite popular these days. Booking cost is only Yen 1,000 or 2,000. Indicate what you want at the booking time.Please also note that you are entitled to as many shot as you can within the time you bought. So it is worth taking at least the 70mn course if not more. Moreover, and especially in the case of Maki, make sure you get your blow job CIM before you get the AF. Because otherwise, she will not serve you after the AF. Sounds obvious but better be reminded. She is quite skill full at BBJCIM too. And she also like very much to take you betweeN her big tits and get you come this way. Quite enjoyable.If you have the stamina, a 3 pops course is highly possible.Enjoy.Wolf
Wolf,According to my sources, that place in Gotanda (assuming we're talking about the same one) provides anal in either direction. In fact, anal seems to be their signature service - and they accept foreigners! You need to have at least enough Japanese skill to make a booking over the phone. The website is at http://www.af-hitoduma.com/ There's a cartoon illustration on the site that shows how the system works, basically starts off with a shared bath, then all over kissing, then she'll lick your hole while playing with you. After a bit of BBBJ action, out comes the lotion, some KY, a rubber and voila. It looks from the illustration that anyone seeking a reciprocal buggering can be accommodated.Have fun fellas.
Crazy Jim Wood
01-05-04, 14:17
Thanks Wolf great info glad to see Maki is a classy girl with high standards doesn't like to recycle.Stopped by Tsubame for some more 69 DATY aand sumata.Hadn't seen the maitre'd before, that's one thing I liked about the place no guy at the front guess he was just on leave. Well, I walk in like I own the place and ask "where's my woman?" he looks at me like he's going to refuse service but I just sit down on the couch in the little waiting room and start watching TV. He did stick me with the nomination fee.My lips and nose didn't fall off yet so I guess she's clean. None of you punters been there to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the pool yet have you? She like didn't get in the position to good, couldn't play with the clitty without getting a crick in me neck so started tongue-fucking her mm tight the more I cunninglingued faster she bobbed.I am keeping my New Year's resolution no HJ Little Jim is in training and HJ will make my number one son weak. So finished with nice sumata and we lay there listening to Korean music she wouldn't tell me what she's thinking about probably wondering what the real thing is like. We started talking lay their for 20 minutes or so until the maitre'd yelled at her. Wonder if I'll get a crack at her crack anytime soon?
Crazy Jim Wood
01-05-04, 15:25
Hey everyone this is the ultimate test of your Japanese skills--little fuck up with your causatives/passives setting up your date at the place from Shomohin's post and you could really be fucked.Here's a graphic illustration from their website.Looking forward to hearing the first full report!
CJW,Heh, you're right. I have often felt fucked after making a mistake in Japanese, but in this case it could be literally a problem.I think it should be pointed out that the majority of services at AF-Hitoduma in Gotanda seems to be 'male penetrating female anal' that most readers here would probably expect and prefer. Here's another part of the same illustration from the website.Sho
Where is this place Paichu that keeps getting mentioned?I don't think that you have to worry about the af-hitoduma.com place. CJW, that's just an option for those who swing that way. The website indicates, that they "specialize" in anal sex with "hitozuma", or wives. The price seems a little steep, but then again, we aren't in Costa Rica... Has anyone gone there and verified that this place is not a rip off?
Tokyo Fun,As per the Admin.'s advice, I tried contacting you via Private Messaging but it is inoperative, at least for you. Please place a post at another similar website, www.mbpolitics.com, from which contact will be possible.Thanks in advance.
Shomohin, CJW,AF-HitodumaIf you can read Japanese can you help understanding their map. Though I know the area very well I cannot understand where they are located.Thanks
Wolf, I can read Japanese. From what I understand the place wants you to phone them from the the WEST exit of JR Gotanda station. It seems confusing because on the top of the homepage it reads Gotanda Station East Exit.I went through the whole web site, but could not find any indication of an office. I believe that you will make your reservation over phone, and they will direct you to a hotel nearby. You will have to pay for the room, though they indicate that they can get a discount for you.
Ambassador
01-07-04, 05:59
Hi Wolf,On the website, under the map it says to call from the west exit of Gotanda Station. The actual place is not indicated on the map, and no address is provided. Guess they have their reasons. On the recruiting page (for women to work there), it also says call from the west exit. Of course, at the top of the page, in English, it says Gotanda East Exit. Gotta love Japan.Thanks for all your great posts, Wolf. You've just about got me convinced to take that dip into the AF waters. I've only done it once, back when I had a beautiful Hawaiian GF. Was much younger then, and came almost immediately. Should be able to "handle the pressure" better this time around.
Wolf,Actually the map for Hitoduma doesn't show the location of the shop, it just says "give us a call from Gotanda Station West Exit"I assume that when you go in you have to use 'the back door"! :-)Sho
OK guys,I want to try the AF place in Gotanda. However, I don't speak Japanese. Do I have a chance of getting in or do I need a Japanese guide?I'll be visiting in a few weeks and want to try something new.
Member #1484
01-09-04, 04:00
I am off to Tokyo next week for a weekend of fun. Can anyone please tell me where to go to get some full service fun, how much, which area? I will be in ShinJuku area.ThanksEDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to remove the multiple periods throughout the text. To avoid delays in future reports, please consider using a comma to separate the phrases in your sentences. This practice works for millions of people every day. Please review the Forum's Posting Guidelines (http://www.wsgforum.com/postingguidelines.html) for further information. Thanks!
FYIThe reason AF is an option and FS isn't is because of the laws here. AF/BJ are not really "sex" (Clinton would love it here) in the eyes of the law.Paid FS is illegal in pink salon, but it is OK to pay on a one-to-one basis (with someone over 18 of course).
Lion,Is the FS action in Hinodecho/Koganecho "legal" because it's all done with independents and not through a house? Anyway, it's a great set of laws where BJ, AF, HJ between adults for money is perfectly legal and makes for great action.
Shibuya update:Hi there,I visited another floor of the infamous 'chinese esute' place I've reported earlier. This time I went to 2nd Floor which is 'Men's Esute' - according to their sign. It has small cubicles each with shower and you can choose the girl from pictures. I chose a rather hefty japanese girl because she had nice H size tits and I was in the mood for some tit play. Went to the cubicle and got a nice shower plus soapy HJ. Then hit the futon. I had asked basic course of only fellatio (fera-i). Good technique and lots of titty fun. Went to 69 with her and she got excited. She jumped on top and started a very nasty, wet sumata. Climaxed and and she tasted the cum from my belly (nice touch). Then cleaned up and found I still had another 20min on the clock. Chatted for 5 then I began to finger her pussy. This time she lay back angrabbed my cock rubbing it against her thigh and ass - I swear I could of banged her ass pussy BB, but resisted the urge having no condom handy. I shot another nice load over her stomach and we cleaned up. Alot more mileage than I expected - but then, she wasn't a glamour girl OR ripoff girl like most in Shinjuku. I forget her name, but if you go there she won't be hard to pick out - only large chested Japanese girl on the menu.Looks - 5BBBJ - 7Sumata - 8Attitude - 9Cost - 7 ( 14kJPY for 1 hour) many options, but I didnt choose - nor was required!Overall report for this building ---2F - Men's Esute Pero Pe Pe Ron (?y?y???j 6/10 8k(30min) on up3F - Pink Salon (Chu) 7/10 8k (30min) 2 girl BBBJ5F - Chinese Esute 5/10 15k (30min) FS - rushed6F - Chinese Esute (OYo san) 7/10 15k (45min) FS - decentBTW - the 2F and 3F seem to open early, around 10.30Ciao
AF Gotanda,I'm game for a replay. Tried once and failed, I just couldn't find it even with directions on the phone! My japanese is not good enough, desho. Anyways, anyone who wants to lead a scout party on this please PM me.EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to remove the multiple dashes throughout the text. To avoid delays in future reports, please consider using a comma to separate the phrases in your sentences. Please review the Forum's Posting Guidelines (http://www.wsgforum.com/postingguidelines.html) for further information. Thanks!
Hi,Is it possible to cum in the girl's mouth? How much need to be paid?How to get one-to one gal here? Thanks for helping
Can anyone explain what is AF and FS?Hi, I see this question in the Forum ocassionally, so I have to ask: In your browser, can you see the link labeled "Terms and Abbreviations" in the black menu bar at the top of this page? Apparently there must be some problem with the visibility of this link in some browsers, so any feedback you could give me would help me identify the specific problem. jackson@wsgforum.com Thanks, Jackson
Crazy Jim Wood
01-11-04, 01:00
good report, sojourn,your research of the chinese esute in this facility has been exhaustive.i see your chesty japanese friend probably maintains her rackage with protein supplements.af-hitoduma in gotanda seems to be our new holy grail.rest assured when i go there and go i shall i will contact you...homer,operating a house of prostitution in japan is illegal with prostitution defined as the sale of (vaginal) sex. seems like all the koganecho/hinodecho area is specially zoned to allow independent contractors, note they are only providers and not houses of prostitution. there are also signs on the street warning people about the presence of foreign prostitutes. so, i guess legality depends on what you're selling who is selling it and where you're selling it, so sale of vaginal sex by the provider in a properly zoned area would be legit, but the same provider hooking on the street or under the control of another person would be illegal. there are also grey areas, such as the environs around the u.s. military bases, where mps are encouraged to allow the randy military to get off without [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) young school girls. but if you notice there are strict regulations governing the size of their signage, what hours they can put out signage, etc.cjw
Hi,Any folks here have experience in Fukuoka?Headed down there next week and will be there for a while. Also any one know of good hang out places on the weekdays and the weekends in Fukuoka Is there a Heartland and Roppongi equivalanet out there?Thanks,JM
CJWood:Thanks for the intel on Hinodecho. I went out there last week again to sniff around but I still prefer the KMPs for personal reasons. It's entertaining to see what's out there and now that it's been clarified on this board that it's perfectly legit, I feel a lot better about going out there to look around.The limited number of gaijin-friendly venues in the Tokyo area makes this board absolutely priceless for those of us who can't read the signs, even for those of us who can speak enough to get by.
Hi WSG and fellow Hobbyists,I am not new to this site or Japan but it has been awhile since I have been here, Particuallry I am interested the location of the Chinese Este in Shibuya. Additionallly, future investigation about the Gotanda scene is requested. I can read Kanji and have frequented Gotanda ina past life here. What is the website and anyone up for investigating this together?Lastly, since I am just now getting back inot the scene here in Tokyo I would like a few reccomendations from the group.I am working in Hamamatscho so both the Gotanda and Shibuya areas are of particular interest.Not sure what to make of the Hinodecho area so scales form 1-10 would be appreciated. Is it worth the train ride?
JMI have some limited experiance in Fukuoka.There is kind of a discontinuous Roppongi type area. Not sure how to get there but just ask to go to the Crazy Cock or Happy Cock (yes that's the name of the places). Kind of equivalent to Motown or 911 in Roppongi. Both are the hangout for young J girls with all you can drink armbands. Kind of a Gas Panic experiance but not all young types. If you have the energy they are there. There is a little know place called Broadway or off Broadway that is worth visiting if you can find it. Get a hamburger there. Also the Voodoo lounge.Just outside the front door of the Grand Hyatt there is a canal which leads to a string of Soaplands. I was motioned in to several by the touts and could have participated if I knew a little more Japanese. My friend who is fluent, got in and looked at the photo menu but was just recon for me. I never made it there but there are possibilities.
PSseehttp://kyushu.com/fukuoka/bars/crazy_cock/1,dj,0,,1,1,0,,x.shtmlfor info on Crazy C
Crazy Jim Wood
01-11-04, 10:42
Notty Max,Jackson is right, you should check the terms&abbreviations, but there are a few terms peculiar to the Japan scene which you may not find in the terms & abbreviations section that you should feel free to ask about. Here is a small sample but there are many more:AF: Anal Fuck (Greek) (you go down her hershey highway)Esute: AMP (Korean is safest, Chinese service varies widely)Fera: felatio (BJ)Gansha: facialGokkun: swallowHonban: FSKosupure/cosupure: costume play, i.e., nurse, school girl, OLNama fera: BBBJN-bura: no bra, nude topN-pan: no pants, nude bottomOnani: female masturbationPaipan: shaved pussyPaizuri: titty job (Russian)Pinkurota-: Pink rotor (small vibrator w/cord & battery pack)Reverse AF: (She takes the strap-on down your hershey highway)Skin: condomSumata: Simulated FS finish between the provider's thighs.
Can anyone explain what is AF and FS?Hi, I see this question in the Forum ocassionally, so I have to ask: In your browser, can you see the link labeled "Terms and Abbreviations" in the black menu bar at the top of this page?
Lubricate It
01-11-04, 14:08
NottyAny Japanese-speaking foreigner can get BBBJCIM at Ai in Shimbashi, 9k for 35 min. The management is very welcoming. In the shower just make sure you say to the girl: "Iku toki wa koh-nai de tanomu ne." But everyone please behave well at this shop to maintain the welcome for us all.
Lubricate It:First, thank you for the definitions.Re: Your definition: "Esute: AMP (Korean is safest, Chinese service varies widely)"Nationwide Sukebe (compliments of http://www.21orover.com/japan/nws/nationwide.html ) defines the following:"FASHION HEALTH, FASHION MASSAGE or HEALTH (SUKEBE Translation available) This kind of service is very similar to 'MASSAGE PARLOR' in US. Almost all do BJ. Remember, BJ is legal. Never ask about full service. ASKING about full service might cause big PROBLEM to you. If you prefer full service, go to SOAPLAND. FASHION HEALTH usually have young girls (18-25). The average age is much younger than SOAPLAND. The price range is 8,000yen - 20,000yen. You can find this kind of services in more districts / cities than SOAPLAND."and "ESTE or ESUTE (Added Jan. 30th 2002) The word comes from English word 'aesthetic'. Japanese shorten the word (they often shorten a foreign word and use it as quasi Japanese word.) and write in three Japanaes Katakanas E, SU, and TE. The places are officially men's aesthetic salons. First ones were Kankoku (=Korean) ESUTEs. Chugoku (Chinese) ESUTEs followed. Services are similar to fashion health places. The difference is most of the women are foreign women, mostly Asian. Fashion health places are registered places and not so willing to hire illegally working foreign women because the do not want to lose their license. On the other hand ESUTEs are not registered, so they do not need to care about license. Sometimes they offer full-service that registered fashion health places do not. Be careful there should be more rip-off places than fashion health because they are unregistered places."It seems that the difference between Este and Fashion/Health/MP is the licensing and flexibility of the house.Comments, recommendations?Are the KMPs that CJWood and others report on considered ESTEs or Fashion MPs?
Crazy Jim,Thanks for the list of terms.I would add that some providers in Tokyo that I have seen did not understand "come" but did understand "finish" for ejaculation.V.
RE: SoaplandsIs FS a given at all Soaplands? I was under the impression that sex for money is prohibited in Japanese establishments. Does the price matter? I know most Soaps are quite expensive so I never go for it. But I know a few that offer services for less than 30,000 total and wouldn't mind stopping in if FS is guaranteed.Any input?
Crazy Jim Wood
01-12-04, 11:59
viagrant,glad to be of service.homer,are you doing legal research? my friend, i believe that the material point here is quality of service and price, not the economic-legal framework, unless, of course, it should impact quality of service and price.the esute are cheaper, lower rent establishments and offer exotic treats from korea or china--choose the former for quality the later for adventure. table shower are available in some not others.the fashion healths are a slightly different atmosphere with a japanese staff and much less common than esute. they will often times have more varied [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118), with throne of pleasure, soapie mat, etc.my choice depends on what flavor of oriental i am in the mood for (a moot point if you don't speak chinese, japanese or korean).of course a good chinese esute which provides fs and is around the corner from your house is best.i also find that fixtures are not always the same, either, two esutes will have same prices same service but one will have table shower for body shampoo, one won't. same with healths, the plumbing is not always the same.in winter and summer ac is also an important consideration.finally, the beds, walls, doors, etc., vary considerably.i guess you just have to shop around to find the place with service, attendants and accoutrements most to your taste.
It's still difficult to find a gal who takes cum in the mouth. Only did it once and it cost me about 15k! Is it the market price?By the way, any tips to get girls who swallow? :)Thanks
CJWood,Thanks for the response. The economic-legal framework is important only if you're looking for the most bang for the buck while trying to stay out of trouble. I think it does impact quality of service and price, to a certain extent. I've heard horror stories about these clubs in Kabukicho where you end up owing a bunch of money when you leave for something you didn't ask for. I've also heard of ripoffs regarding credit cards and wallets and I'm trying to avoid these problems. The explanations given regarding the Koganecho scene have explained away a lot of questions and I think it helps put people at ease as to the legitimacy of the place.Since I'm relatively new to the Tokyo scene, I think it's a good thing to know the underlying economies and how things work in order to figure out what works best.Being a gaijin also severely limits the ability to "shop around" and this board is priceless in terms of finding prospective places to shop. It would be a guess but there are probably a lot of lurkers here who are seeing value in this discussion. Thanks for sharing your invaluable knowledge and experience with everyone here.
Crazy Jim Wood
01-12-04, 22:37
Rondolo,Sex in the Soap is a given. There is one right near Hinodecho which provides FS to foreign devil for 19,000 girls were so-so see my post about Soapland Mermaid, not to be confused with Esute Mermaid.Notty,According to webpage Hitoduma, Paichu, etc., options such as CIM seem to run 5k extra so 15k doesn't seem unreasonable.Of course, some BJ Pubs give you BBBJTCCIM for 8k-10k, but those places seem to have problems with STDs... Look back in the forum for more info. Usually the BJ Pub is also sitting on a chair in a semi-public booth which seems to bother some people. I got one memorable BBBJ in one such place from a somewhat middle aged woman, but the looks of girls are not always best and there is no way to verify quality of service before actually getting the BJ.As for how to get girls to swallow, keep them in a full nelson so they can't spit and pinch their nose shut until they have to suck in air and down the hatch she goes...CJW
Crazy Wood:A pink rotor is a small oval vibrator with a long cord and battery pack. It is what you see in most Japanese porn movies. I think you have to buy it from the girl, as no one want to use one that has been used by another (understandably).
I think CIM is standard in Japan, although Chinese seem to be less eager to allow it. Swallowing is not standard, but if you pay extra for the option "gokkun" she will do it (though some girls don't have that option on their menus).
Yes, FS in Soaplands is given. I think it is OK because they are located in specially zoned areas (?).As for CIM, none of the 3 or 4 women I have seen at Soaplands would do it the first time I saw them, but the one that I have seen more than once did it on the second visit, and every visit after that one. I guess it pays to be a repeat customer.Of course, at the BJ places like Hino Maru, CIM is standard, but not swallowing, since the girl must show the evidence in a tissue to her boss to get her bonus (or so I have read).V.
Regarding AF in Gotanda,First some background. Way back when I had a GF that would let me have anal sex with her, and it was wonderful. My wife now. won't even think about it. That plus that fact that there is a lot more Japanese AV on the Internet now with anal sex has made me reaaly itching to try it again with a cute Japanese girl. So, having read all the posts here about the AF in Gotanda, I was extremely curious and ready to try. And by golly, if I had to take one for the team, I would. So here is my report. All in all, it turned out to be an expensive (details to come) but enjoyable evening. I just went this past Friday night, 1/9.First, you absolutely must speak passing Japanese. My Japanese is pretty good, but as many of you know, talking on the phone is one of the most difficult things in a foreign language. If you can't speak Japanese, then you will want to go with a friend.OK, so my evening started around 8:00 PM. I phoned the number on the web site and said I wanted to make a reservation at 9:00. The guy told me that it's too early and to call back when I get to Gotanda station. He also could tell I was a foregner, I think, and he asked me if this was my first time, and I said yes but that a friend recommended to me. So I hopped on the JR and arrive about 9:00. It is the West exit of the station that you need to go to, not the East. Anyway, I phone the guy there and he explains a bit of the system to me and tells me that I will go to a hotel, at which point he puts me on hold or something, then comes back and says that he will call me back. At this point, I am just wandering around Gotanda, as I had never been there before. In particular, I was looking for the hotels so I could get familiar with their names. The guy and I go back and forth on the phones a few times and finally I understand that he is telling me that all the hotels are full, that I should just find one with a free room and then call when I have checked in. Since I have never been to a love hotel before, this was also a new experience for me.A couple of the hotels I found, including Hotel West and Hotel Air France, which are a long side the tracks. When you come out of the West exit, turn right and go across the street. The hotels are on the left side of the small street next to the tracks. Air France was booked, and the Hotel West did have one room available, at 6300 Yen for 2 hours. Little bit expensive from what I understand, but I didn't have much choice. At this point it is about 9:30. And I get into the room and call the guy back to give him my room number. He wants to know what service I want, and I tell him that I want the regular AF, 2 hours, "ni kai" which lets me come twice. Party, I was just wanting to splurge and indulge myself, but partly also worried that I might blow my load early out of excitement and not even get to the anal or at least not much of it. Anyway, this will set me back 50,000 yen. I am taking a bit of a gamble since I have not gotten to choose which girl I want; I assume maybe cause I am not a regular.The guy tells me OK, and that he will call me back shortly. About 5 minutes later, he calls and says that the girl will be there at 10:40, and will that be OK?!? Well, what am I supposed to do? I am already in the hotel room, so I just suck it up and watch Star Wars Ep I in Japanese on the TV in the room. At about 10:30, the guy calls the room, not my mobile, and lets me know that the girl is coming, and she arrives at my door about 5 minutes later. Since I have been in the hotel about an hour, I am a little concerned and I ask the girl about how to pay for extra time. She says, you just pay when you leave. OK, fine. I pay her the 50,000 yen up front.She's really happy that I speak some Japanese, though her English is passable for a Japanese person. The whole time, though we speak in Japanese. She doesn't waste much time, and starts taking off her clothes and running a bath. :-) She's not drop dead georgeous, but cute and quite attractive. I'd say about a 7.5 or 8. Nice personality, also. I try numerous times to guess her age during the evening, but she won't tell me. She looks to be about 29-30, and the web site says 31, though from talking about her, I guess it is more like 35. Still quite attractive, though.Anyway, the rest, I think, Is much like your standard soap experience. We start with the shower, and she cleans me real good and has me get in the bath. I also get to soap her up. After, we get out and move to the bed. Little bit of kissing first, then she starts to give me light massage and tongue bath. I can't remember the order of everything, but there was some anal rimming, and somehow we end up in a 69, so I can enjoy some DATY while she gives me a BBBJ. She let's me play with her ass during.This goes on for about 10 minutes and I am really suprised that I haven't blown my load, but I have done well up to this point. She stops the 69 and get the gel, which is the stuff you often see in the Japanese porn. I wasn't expecting, but she pours it all over me and starts to massage me with her whole body, even massaging my ass with her tits. A little strange, but enjoyable. She then gets on top of me and starts a little sumata, getting herself all gooed up. After another 5, she asks if I am ready. Of course, I am, and she puts a condom on me and wants me to go in her ass missionary style. Wow, I had forgotten how good it felt. I don't last anymore than 5 minutes. Clearly one of the best orgasms I have had in a long time. After, she keeps me inside her for a while until I start to get soft.So I am spent and we spend the next 20 minutes or so relaxing and chatting after which she starts to try and wake me up again. She succeeds and we start again. This time, she puts the condom on me, and as I am about to enter her, she asks, which do you want, meaning regular or anal? I ask her, is it OK to do regular for a bit and switch and she says OK. So we go at it regular for maybe 5 minutes and then I get in her ass again and the contrast is wonderful. This time, I last a little longer, maybe 10 minutes.To finish us, another shower and bath and she calls the guy to let him know she is done. Unbeknownst to me, she actually had a timer, but I never felt rushed nor did she ever look at it. We've gotten pretty friendly, and I even manage to trade mobile phone info with her and get her real name.Now for the kicker of the evening. I had no problem with the 50,000 yen for the service. A little expenisve, but, hey, this is Tokyo, right? But I am getting ready to pay about another 4,000 yen for the room, for the extra hour. Well, we get down to the lobby and it turns out that we stayed an extra hour an 3 minutes, and for that luxury, I pay an extra 9,300 yen. The girl even tries to argue with them on my behalf, though to no avail. Throw in an extra 3,000 yen for the cab fare back to the hotel since it is now almost 1:00 AM and the trains are no longer running.So, an expesive and long eveining, about $700 and 5 hours from start to finish. I understand their need to be circumspect, but the initial arrangements could be a bit more smooth. Maybe if I am a regular, it can be arranged for the girl to come to my hotel. I will ask next time I am in Japan. All in all, I was pleased, though left with the sneaking suspicion that the guy might be in cahoots with the hotels.Sorry for the long post. Hope everyone finds it informative.
Crazy Jim Wood
01-13-04, 08:22
Lion,Thanks for update on pink rotor live and learn eh.CJW
Pink RotorMy experiance with the pink rotor is that most of the delivery girls have one stashed in their purses. All you have to do is ask (if you ever want to see some amazing stuff, ask to go thru the purse)I had one delivery, who turned into a regular GFE, that had to use it to cum. She was literally addicted to that damn thing!At first it was cool doing it doggy style with that little rotor going and vibrating the entire groin area.But then any other position and it started to get in the way and was always humming and buzzing. I started to hate the rotor.I would always kid, "make sure you have lots of batteries" but really I would have liked to send it down the toire'She did mention that it is readily purchased at any of the sounds like "Donkey" (SP?) stores. Kind of a 7-11, there is one in Roppongi. They look cheap and may be worth picking up and leaving on the dresser with some energizers installed. But buyer beware!
Endowed,Donkey is probably the Don Quixote chain of discount stores. With the inexplicable penguin logo.Sho
BTW - The 'Donkey' in Shibuya is a good place to hook up near freebies on most Fri/Sat nites. It's close to the clubs and alot of girls hang out around there looking for someone to take them clubbing. It's worth a stroll around 11pm or so just to see what's up. One time I had a drunk chick practically begged me to take her into a love hotel - especially after I scored some ChuHi's in the DQ and bought her a Doner. SO I guess the cost of that pick up:3 Lemon ChuHi's - 450Y1 Doner Kabob - 500Y1 ST Love Hotel - 4000Y2hrs with a cute spinner - pricelessAnother time I was with some japanese friends and they were pretty appalled that I approached some girls near there to bring along as a 'catch' for one of the guys who was single. I guess they hold 'those girls' in quite low esteem. Though I couldn't really differentiate between my friend's friends and the girls by the DQ except of job status.S
Finally see some action. This k-gal was recommended from a close friend here, guess what? She is real cute. I manage to get some photos but please bear with the resolution as it was taken via camera phone. Hope you all enjoy though.The whole session was ok, but too bad she don't take it in the mouth!!! (CIM) Deal breaker? Now way!
Getting ready for a bath.
ShoYou are correct, that is the chain store I was thinking of. They are actually larger than 7-11 type and 2 story. They have a good, inexpensive "pink rotor". Guys, get one for your GF and have your name engraved on it.<p><font size="6" color="#0000FF"><b><i>EN~</i></b></font></p>
Notty Max,That girl is cute. How can we get in touch with her? ;-)V.
Notty - Nice pics, I got a semi looking at themlooks like behind New Roppongi hills on photo#1Soujourn - it never mattered to me either where they worked!Bizz Tx - nice post, although you left us uninformed of the last position used in AF sequence.For those of you with a small computer screen (like me) be sure to scroll down to not miss Bizz Tx excellent post on Gotanda. Well put together and worth reading. If you post and it is delayed it does not end up in sequence but with a delay and placed behind (no pun) current posts so scrolling is necessary.I once traveled to Gotanda to try and find a place I saw on the internet called YuYu. I actually printed out the map from internet and then showed it to the sly station master to get oriented to the right exit. Then took off determined to find it. Got close and then rang a few door bells with no sucess, finally found a delivery man and had him call YuYu for directions from my phone. Turns out we are right in front of it! He took me to the door and my mistake was to let him take off. The guy inside did not speak any english. I did get to look at the picture menu and the rules book by saying Hai to a few questions, but that's as far as I got until I practice some more.
Hey Notty,She's not just okay...she's a real hottie. Nice set of jugs. How about some contact info? PM me.Thanks
Hi all,Anyone knows how to get those office lady? I wanted to try some matured girl but must be well maintain. Age preferably to be around 30 to 34, any recommendation?Thanks.NM
Hi Soujourn,2 questions:1) Whats the "Donkey"?2) how much Nihingo do you need to know to pick up strays? and whats the catch line?-JM
Hi Josi,'Donkey' is the Don Quioxte store. If you walk from Hachiko, Shibuya up the street that is just to right of the 109 building you can't miss it. It is yellow, has a thousand things outside on the sidewalk to buy and open late. It sounds like everyone is saying Donkey because most japanese just shorten everything so to say let's go to the Don Quioxte store you would say 'don ki ni ikimasenka'. So that gives you the basics for any japanese mongering or pickups basically 2 important verbs are needed.1) ikimasenka (should we go or let's go)2) ikimashoka (same as 1 but more of a 'do you want to' go)3) asobimashoka (should we play or fuck)It's easy to add anything on the front to get the desired action. Like. You want to take them clubbing first.1) Clubbing(gu) ikimasenka? Let's go (to) clubbing now.2) LH (el echu) ikimasenka? Let's go to a Love Hotel (LH)3) Cafe ikimasenka? Let's go to a CafeNext when you are there. You gotta ask them to 'play'.1) Asobimashoka?It would be cool if you know a few other things, but if the girl is attracted enough to you and you have walked to a club with her and danced, this will probably be enough. For any SG it is definitely enough.Just remember, in Japanese no words end with a hard sound. They always gotta end with a vowel sound. Hence Clubbing turns into CLU-BIN-GU. Bic Camera (where you can get all your A/V supplies) turns into BI-KU KA-ME-RA. They use postpositions after the word to indicate the nature of the action, but I will avoid any discussion about it - this is not a Japanese language forum! But use the above 2 japanese phrases and you will at least get your mongering intentions clearly across. Of course you need to know their answer.HAI! = YesTabun = Maybe (no) but if you drag me there, I'm sure to fuck youYaDa = No, I'm disgusted but probably turned on by youEE-AY = No, really no - especially if they shake their head. Otherwise assume it to be nearly yes.Anything else you can get from a phrasebook.Still - SEXU WORLD (my new name for the Shibuya location) has my vote as the most gaijiin friendly and varietal place in Tokyo. At least 4 floors of everything from Pink Salon to Chinese FS with some regular soapy action and k-girl thrown in. You simply won't have a better chance of decent service. And besides, in the basement is a hip hop club that usually has freebie action from 11pm to 4am every friday and sat. AND, the MacDonalds up the street is open late!
Ambassador
01-17-04, 08:34
bizz tx: you went beyond the call of duty with that report. thanks a bunch! i couldn't find the price of the af option on their website. if 50,000 is the price for a double header, how much for a single? thanks for any info.btw, hmmm, "bizz tx"......you wouldn't be the president's brother, neil, would you? seems he enjoys the mongering lifestyle himself, though he says the ladies just show up. yeah, right! okay, finally getting around to posting my version of a report on hinomaru in kabuki-cho. great directions are on the forum but a fellow or two still has managed to not find it it seems. well, if you can get by on a japanese map, get one and look for the gently curving, east-west road "behind" (north of) kabuki-cho. the entrance to hino-maru, with a big sign, is on one of the side streets going north. just about 15 meters from the curvy road. can't miss it.i went last summer or early fall. i think i was there kind of early, maybe around 10 a.m. a fairly old lady was on the side street, and took me up the wide, red-carpeted stairs to the real entrance. there, they showed me the system and asked if i wanted to pick a girl. i was looking at the pictures, more to get a feel for what was there than to really pick a girl. they seemed anxious to get on with business (guess some guys just look at the pictures and sneak a peek and then are ready to go home to mama...), i wouldn't say they really rushed me, but anyway in short order i told them any girl was okay. ("furee") they told me the fee, which as reported here is 8000 yen, and i paid the kind-of-old man behind the counter. all very non-threatening and non-ripofflike. great so far! i was then taken to my seat.the place was empty, which was fine by me. looking from the place where you pay your money, the big room is basically divided down the middle by a row of planters, to give some privacy. there are maybe 10 or so loveseats on each side, all facing the front (away from the counter). no partitions, just loveseat, cheap coffee table, loveseat, cheap coffee table, all the way back. i can't imagine what it would be like to be there with another customer in front of you and behind you! if anyone has had that experiencee, please write it up!my girl was kaori, who i have since discovered has been reported here before. her number is 23, but based on my experience that's all she has in common with michael jordan. not a champion performance.what i didn't like about her is, compared to my three previous experiences at a fuzoku, she didn't seem to give a damn that i could speak passable japanese. she was all business, totally non-gfe. just a few words of aisatsu and then on with the transaction. also, the entire time, she seemed like she had a bunch of phlegm stuck in her throat, always trying to clear it. i think i mentioned it, asking if she was okay, and she didn't really respond.the order of events for me was, from reading her other reports, standard. first a bbbj, then without even asking or telling, she put a raincoat and some lotion on me and started the most mechanical sex i have ever had in my life. i am 39 and, although i haven't had over a hundred different girls, i've had my share. i was sitting on the loveseat and she was just straddling me as best she could in that small space, i think she had one leg kind of stuck straight out and the other one was angled, going up and down with her upper body. just up and down, very fast, no change in technique or rythym the whole time. like i was her millionth customer or something. okay, so maybe i was ;-)i was trying to spread out my 182 cm frame as best i could, and in the process just about knocked the coffee table over with my legs! i was trying my best to enjoy myself, trying to come, probably had my eyes closed, and next thing i know i see that coffee table (with our drinks on top) angled up at about 45%! just about shit my pants, which is hardly conducive to coming. made her aware of the emergency, she stopped going up and down for a minute and we righted the table. then she continued.after seeing i wasn't any closer to coming than when she started, she took the rubber off and went back to bbbj. actually, her technique in that area is good; if she had just stuck with that in the beginning, i would have been finished faster i'm sure. but i did have to see the fs (and would want to in the future, too...), so i don't regret not telling her not to jump on me like she did. (oh no, a triple negative. that'll never get past jackson :-) )there was very little talking the whole time. i know i indicated to her when i was about ready to come, because i think that's the least we guys can do in a cim situation. (i think if we surprise them, they don't take kindly to it. can't say as i blame them.) i had to think of something else to make me come, but i digress...she cleaned up her mouth with tissue, which is always kind of sad for me in a psychological sense, like rejection....oh, if they would all gokkun! after that, she gave me her card. lol, the printing is so bad it is crooked and the bottom line is cut off! (at least on the one she gave me.) typical of these places, in my brief experience, her name and number are written in, as well as her time of work, 0500 (ouch!) to 1530. the card is the most straightforward i've ever seen: at the top it says open from 5 in the morning to 1 at night, 365 days a year. shinjuku shop (are there others?) her number (23), name, her times, then the company name, address, and telephone number. no design whatsoever, not even a sun! i can't even remember if she asked me to come back, which is standard procedure for these gals. maybe she was just having a bad day, but she seemed very burnt out to me. how about you other guys who have had her?bottom line is, for tokyo it is a good deal, even if you don't get the fs, and the place itself is interesting. heck, if you're like me, a major reason you want to go there is because it seems like a part of tokyo mongering history! at least as far as we foreigners go. i'll go back, but before then i would be more likely to try a place near tokyo but not in one of the main rlds. hope to get a great, early morning price for bbbj, and by a girl who is willing to at least exchange a few pleasantries before starting. ambassador
Brown Bunny
01-19-04, 00:23
Hello everyone. I'll be coming to the Shinjuku area from Jan. 21-25 and would like to know some hot spots for freebies. Does anyone have any good suggestions? My fashion is semi-casual (not business suits, but not blue jeans, either). Also, I'm 24. I'm looking for some places where young girls frequent and are looking to pick up foreign guys. Also, I speak Japanese well. If anyone has any good suggestions, I'd be very grateful for the help. Thanks. Happy HuntingBB
Visit to TokyoJust returned from my first visit to Tokyo. Traveling via LA the difference in temperature was significant. Something akin to a New York winter with the exception of a slightly lesser wind chill factor. I stayed in the CBD so I was just a few stop away from Shibuya where I managed to indulge a few times.Before I continue I?d like that thank all the contributors to this forum. Without your guide and specific directions it would have been absolutely impossible to find any of the places with the exception of the rip-off hostess clubs in Shibuya and Shinjuku.Inspired by the G-Style website I decided to go there on my first day. I speak absolutely no Japanese so I wasn?t expecting much. As per the forume you exit on the Tokyo Plaza side of Shibuya station and walk up the hill till you get to a white building with a red ESP sign out front. Had no trouble getting inside as I followed a Japanese guy and they must have assumed we were friends. However when they tried speaking to me and I couldn?t reply I got the big ?2-hand? cross and was promptly shown to the door. It was a pity as the girls on the polaroids in the waiting room were very attractive.In any case made my way back to Shibuya station and managed to find the building with Century 21 (Level 3) and the place up one level upstairs which I?ll call L4 for the sake of this review. The lift is absolutely tiny and it would be close to impossible to fit more than 2 people inside. Just remember it?s directly opposite from the Java coffee shop and you shouldn?t have trouble finding it.Was only 4pm so both places were closed. From memory C21 opens around 6pm and L4 at 5pm. Went for a walk around the block and came back and went into L4, the first time I?ve been to a Japanese BJ bar.L4 is basically a series of dark booths all facing forward with a bench seat and a small drinks table. You have the choice of beer, tea or water upon entry and I think refills are free. Cost was only 6000 as it was within 1 hour of opening time. Within 2 hours is 7000 and the maximum price is 8000. Basically the cover charge buys you 3 girls which you spend 10 minutes each with. There is often a small break between each girl which gives you a few minutes to recover before the next round. You can also ask the girl to stay for another 10 minute block if you wish. However you can?t select the girls.All the girls provide BBBJ but only some allows the hands to wonder down below. Depending on their mood they may take off their clothes too. If privacy is an issue, basically go near the opening time or avoid the place all together. When the place is full there is absolutely no privacy between you and the fellow in the adjacent booth.Contra to previous reports I found the girls to all be young (under 25) and fairly attractive. Most would be in the region of 6-7 and even higher if you like the j-girl look. Hot and cold disposable towels are provided both pre and post each visit from a girl though admittedly the bbbj still provide a health risk. While I found all 3 girls offered attractive. There was one particular attractive tall slim j-girl which I saw in another booth but unfortunately I didn?t get to stay with her. Despite my best efforts only managed to relieve myself 1 out of 3 times. Considering the fact I just had 3 naked j-girl provide a very good service I though there was definitely room for improvement and went straight away down the lift to C21.Unfortunately, considering the praise C21 has received on the forum I found the selection of girls at C21 were poorer, the booth definitely much smaller and you only get 2 x 15minute sessions instead of 3 x 10. Price was the same at 6,000 increasing to 8000 depending on when you visit. Girl were somewhat distant and only managed to relive myself once leaving me with a total of 2 out of 5 for the day.Returned home and vowed to improve my batting average the next day.After a good night sleep returned to L4. The guy up the front was much more friendly remembering me from the day before. I also managed to point out the tall attractive girl to him and thankfully he assigned her to me for round 2. The experience was very raunchy with great bbbj and lots of downstairs access provided by all girls. The tall slim girl was particularly great and was seems to get really into it. It was the closest thing to a fisting experience I?ve had in a long time. I was sandwiched between the thighs of j-girl 3 and I suspect DATY was definitely on the menu. However considering I?ve read some STD reports on the forum I though I?d give it a miss. Must say I reached an all time record and managed to close the deal 3 out of 3 times.Didn?t get to partake in any other elements of the Japanese scene but for 3 girls for 6000 yen I think it?s hard to find better value in Tokyo or anywhere is the world for that matter.So for any prospective visitors to Tokyo I strongly suggest you head to L4 near Shibuya station.Cheers,Maxxy
Maxx01,Thanks for the interesting report.Brown Bunny,Of course freebies can happen anywhere, especially when you don't expect it, but my personal favorite in Shinjuku is 3-chome, near Isetan. You can get to the bar/restaurant area from 3-chome station on the Marunouchi Line or Keio Line. You might want to spend a few minutes checking out the area as there are some bars where you can take a look from the outside to see who is sitting at the counter. Anyplace might be as good as another, but if you barhop on a Friday or Saturday night sooner or later you will bump into a lonely girl looking for someone to get drunk with. My favorite pubs are Doors, Rolling Stones, and a couple of others. Good Luck
How do we contact Momosan?Gotta try this one!
Things seem very dead on the Tokyo scene, Hino and 21 are old hat and good to go because you don't need to wear a hat. However, since the talk of the green death has gone around I have stayed away from both and have had the door shut in my face everywhere I go. Hino was good for FS at 8000 even with the slightly doggish. Went to Ike for some SW action but only ugly Thias and they want 20,000. Have seen no Latinos and since I lust for the bust thats a hard loss. Tried a few of the phone numbers listed here for free lancers and no luck. Shin okubo is dead use to be good for an occasional gem but not even hags anymore. whats up there?Had a shot at the chinese este in Sky bar building but my experience with them in shinjuku leaves me unwilling, so passed it up. anyone go to the one in Yushina? How about the g-style place in shibuya foreign freindly I hear but latest post doesnt seem so.....?Where is Paichu and any other places recommended if any tele of free lancers around with good size titties let me know?Any Japanese guys who read this and want to take me along and get me into a good club give me a private message.Any shops in Ike or elsewhere that are foreign friendly?
Wolf, or anyone else that may know.Last April Wolf reported on a place in Gotanda called YuYu's (http://www.yuyu1.com). Anyone know if this place is still operating and taking Gaijin?Coming to Tokyo soon and looking for new places. Any suggestions welcome, have done all the usual places mentioned on the board, C21, NewYorkNewYork, etc.
Ambassador,The prices started at 40, minutes. I don't remember the price for that, but one hour was 24,000. Two hours was 48,000 and for an extra 2,000 you get "ni kai" = a double header, as you put it. I think you can only get the two goes by getting the two hours.Someone else further down asked about the position on the 2nd go. It was also missionary. My Japanese wasn't good enough to ask the girl to change, and I was happy with it anyway. If I had really wanted to, she probably would have done another pos.No relation to the President. I don't think Bush et al. could even locate Japan on a map. ;)
Bizz Tx,For much less, you could have gone to Paichu, requested Maki, pay Yen 20,000 or so, pay the hotel Yen 4,000. pay Maki an extra of Yen 5,000 and have AF at least once, bbjcim at least once and may be some extra. You just have to go to the shop, check for Maki, wait till she gets available (they'll tell you, book it (for an extra Yen 2,000) if necessary and that's done.And believe me, she likes what she does, ask you to go slowly and quicker and quicker and deeper and deeper. For the amateur, she even agrees (and proposes) bare back. Not on my risks list though.And this is 2mn walkfrom where you were.Gaijin daijobu !!!EnjoyWolf
Max220,Yes YuYu is still open. Girls are amazing but my prefered one left a month ago. Others worth the check also.Still operating (I was there last week).Same building as Paichu. 4th floor.Gaijin daijobu. Need some Japanese ability anyway.Enjoy
Hey Guys,I was wondering if anyone any recent, reliable telephone dating sites or dating BBS sites for the Kansai area? Since I've been sent to the most boring part of Japan and away from my gf, and there aren't any really good service shops here, I want to try something new.Thanx
Reference Clomonger's report on Paradise Massage on 12-04-03 00:12I went to Paradise Massage in Nippori tonight and I saw "Lily" (perhaps Lee or Lee-Lee), a 28-YO Korean beauty with a large, firm, very nice rack. I assume she's the same as Clomonger saw in December. Her technique is superb with a great happy ending.Clomonger is right, there is no sign in English (I will post a picture when I get a chance) but it's easy to find and it's the first left turn after heading right from the South Bridge of the station as he has corrected CrazyJim. It is directly behind the Hotel Lungwood's right side back entrance. Please see attached map to Hotel Lungwood. If you can find your way to the Hotel Lungwood (anyone should be able to direct you to it), the building that Paradise is in touches the back right-side of the Lungwood building and it's across from a pachinko parlor.It's on the second floor and they speak no English, however everything can be done with handsignals and by handing the guy Y10000 (for nude massage, no samata). He makes it clear that there is no FS. Basic Japanese is extremely helpful but not necessary. Money talks. I asked them, "Gaijin OK?" and he said, "No Problem" or something like that. It's an extremely friendly, clean, hospitable place.The lady will walk you to a small massage room where you remove your clothes, put on a robe and walk to the table shower room. I'm not sure about leaving any valuables (such as a passport, large amounts of cash, etc.) in the unattended room, some other expert here can comment) but the place appears to be very upright and proper so you have to decide how to handle that situation. You could theoretically bring a small handbag or something and take your valuables with you to the shower room and hang them on the hook in there if you're making a quick retreat from Narita on a layover and are carrying a lot of cash and your passport. I had neither with me so I didn't worry about it.The table shower is basically a naugahyde covered massage table where you lay down and get washed with a warm shower head and lots of soap. Very nice.After the table shower she will dry you off and you head back to the massage room. You lay face down and get a pretty nice massage (at least I did) with lots of hot towels laid over you to relax your muscles. She will ask you to turn over, give you a short massage on the front before getting down to the "service" and finish you off, your mileage will of course vary from that point.There is no choice of girl but Lily/Lee was more than any guy could ask for assuming that 28YO is not too old. She's pretty nice looking and her body is superb. She would not let me touch her down there and said it was a bad time of the month. That's a standard line but it might be the truth, too.This place is:-Gaijin-friendly (please don't spoil things for us foreign residents by going there drunk or expecting FS)-Easy to find (see attached map) if you can find the Hotel Lungwood, you can find this place and verify that it is the correct place if you can't read the sign-Convenient to the Keisei Skyliner and Narita Airport-Very clean and apparently safeIf you're looking for good, safe fun with absolutely no risk of catching something and a nice massage to boot, you could do a lot worse than this place.I plan to go back very soon and will post a followup report.
Map to Paradise Massage in Nippori attached.
It's interesting that Paradise is getting such good feeback. I've been there a few times, and while ok, there's plenty more to choose from one more stop down in Ueno. For the same price, you can get far more. There's at least 4 or 5 good estes in the "red light" area, and most 2000 Yen cheaper with better service.
Asia Butterfly
01-24-04, 07:32
Has anyone tried the Massages that lots of women ask you to try at the close of the clubs in Roppongi. Everytime i am going back to the hotel SOLO (bad night), You get all these women hit you up for massagi, and since I dont know how to speak Japanese it is difficult to know if FS is offerered.Enquiry minds want to know.
Asia Butterfly
01-24-04, 07:56
Maxx01,Thanks for your report. Interestingly I always stay at the Cerulean Tower in Shibuya unaware that I am that close to some action. I will try the place on my next stay in Shibuya. Is there any other place for some J-girl action in that area. I almost tried the escort services you see posted all over the call booths but always find myself heading for Roppongi
Keith Enai
01-24-04, 22:59
Hi,I am planning to visit japan. I am very interested the Pink Salon in Tokyo. Can you please give me their address. Also, what is the best place to get FS in Tokyo.Thank you very much.
Kanda,If you have places you know about in Ueno, please share them with the board. I assure you that if you do share them, people here will try them out and report on them. Those of us gaijin who neither speak (at least fluently) nor read Japanese are at a great disadvantage and need a forum like this to scout places. Posting a map from yahoo or a local hotel or business also helps greatly. What is good about Paradise (besides the obvious) is that it's a few minutes from the Keisei Skyliner station, making it a great quick hit place for those on Narita layovers and it's easy access from JR and Keisei. The other great thing about it is that it's very easy to find from the south bridge at Nippori Station and that the building that it's in actually touches the back side of the Hotel Lungwood. It's pretty hard to get lost or misdirected resulting in lots of wasted time.Where exactly is the red light district in Ueno? I haven't explored that area but your message caught my attention and I plan to explore it very soon. Remember that those of us who can't read the signs need a little more guidance and help.
Crazy Jim Wood
01-25-04, 05:05
at least 4 or 5 good estes in the "red light" area, and most 2000 Yen cheaper Quite right, Kanda.However, Nippori station is small and easy to navigate for non-Japanese speakers "getting off" after a trip on the Keisei Liner.Actually, Paradise was only 8,000, not sure why people are driving up the price. 10,000 does get you other options but if all you want is a massage with happy ending (HJ) just pay 8,000. You can also negotiate further service in the room if you like the girl, so no need to pay 10k up front.
anyone tried the Massages that lots of women ask you to try at the close of the clubs in RoppongiAsia B.,Those are Chinese exchange students mostly. They bring in the customers but in most cases will not give the massage. The exchange students generally don't even do HJ just talkie talkie. When you get back to the shop there is usually one illegal Chinese girl who will do the HJ.The shops are usually miserable, cramped, no shower, and unsanitary.I had one girl at one of those places, she was cute, nice rack, had some good technique, only 5,000, but those places are hit and miss.
I can remember what we used to call the pig farm back in the early 80'sAre they still in business?You would pay a fee to enter and then sit theatre style around a stage. Women would come in and do a short strip show and then guys from the audience would line up to the stage. The girl would then take one at a time and have sex on stage untile the line was exhausted. A new girl would perform and start all over. I have seen up to twenty girls go at this in an evening. So, Are the pig farms still alive?
CJWood wrote:>>Quite right, Kanda.However, Nippori station is small and easy to navigate for non-Japanese speakers "getting off" after a trip on the Narita express.<<Didn't you mean the Keisei Skyliner? The NEX stops at Tokyo, Yokohama, Shibuya, Shinjuku, etc. but does not go to Nippori. Only two JR lines (Joban and Yamanote) go through Nippori if I'm not mistaken.Isn't the Paradise a better value than anything around Tokyo Station (Marunouchi, Yaesu, or otherwise)? It's certainly easier to navigate than Tokyo Station (also the proverbial hour away by rail from Narita Airport via express train).Of course, if someone has a little extra time, the NEX to Yokohama brings you to a place where a quick trip via the Keikyu can be made to Koganecho/Hinodecho.
Asia Butterfly
01-25-04, 08:51
Crazy JimSo is there any place that offers FS in Ropongi?Thanks for the information on the Chinese exchange students, I am glad I never tried it.
Ambassador
01-26-04, 06:23
Thanks to:Bizz Tx, for the extra info on the AF experience he had. BTW, I don't know what other position you might have been interested in, but doggy is simply called "baku" (Japanese pronunciation of the vowels, remember).Wolf, for his continued recommendation of Maki. She does seem tempting...and only 153 cm. I like 'em short and sweet.MDiver, for his question. I'd be happy to know of a place that offers even just one guy a chance at FS on stage. Got to see that a couple times at the famous "The Stage" when I was stationed in Okinawa. Not interested in testing _my_ stage skills; more of a voyeur thing I guess. Would appreciate anybody's info on strip joints that still offer any kind of sex show, or anything out of the ordinary for that matter.Crazy Jim, for his info. If I had read his (and others here) info about the hit and miss facet of the Chinese street gals, I would probably be about 50,000 richer now. And I think most would agree that those places are a lot more miss than hit.Everybody, for the recent spark of activity on the board! Love to read all the reports. Keep 'em coming, whether it be nampa advice and targeting vectors, immigration issues, whatever. One thing I would like is info on any cheap AV video rooms, you know the kind where you pick out a basket of videos and have a small cubicle to yourself, sometimes a flat rate for unlimited number of videos. Often that is enough for me after an hour or so of walking the streets and seeing nothing real promising. Usually a lot easier on the pocketbook, too!
Hey A. Butterfly,There is a place I visited a while back. It is diagnolly across from Almond Cafe.From Almond, cross the main street, then cross the street again to the right.A few buildings down you will see an orange with black letters sign that starts with "Y". Some restraunt. Go to the 4th or 5th floor on the building. Wooden door with brass handle. Knock and you'll be let in.I think it is 200K or 300K for FS.Good luck.JM
Crazy Jim Wood
01-26-04, 09:16
So is there any place that offers FS in Ropongi?Asian B:Sorry, I don't know about getting FS in Roppongi except the old fashioned way :->However, there is FS available for 14,000 or so (22,000 for two girls) at parties on the Yamanote line at Gotanda, Shin Okubo, Takadanobaba, etc., all less than 30 min train ride from Roppongi. Do a forum search looking for "party" in the Japan section to get details. Good Luck!Homer:
Isn't the Paradise a better value than anything around Tokyo Station (Marunouchi, Yaesu, or otherwise)?Paradise's redeeming feature is location and convenience. Definitions of value are subjective, and I haven't found much around Yaesu-Marunouchi-Tokyo Sta but there are better prices, better service and more variety for the discerning customer elsewhere than Tokyo Sta or Nippori.
Didn't you mean the Keisei Skyliner?Thank you, Homer, for your astute correction. Sorry I was writing extemporaneously without my notes at hand, it is Keisei and not Narita Express. Homer's map is also quite a bit better than the one I originally posted. But then Homer seems to live in Hotel Longdong right next to Paradise and eat Korean every night. Must be nice :->Note that the base price is 8,000, that being the material point. Here is a quote from my original posting on Paradise from 12 Nov 2003:
Keisei Liner is one of two express trains connecting Tokyo and Narita International Airport (the other is the Narita Express). Keisei liner stops in Nippori and Ueno station.Nippori station is about 1 hour trip from Narita Airport by Keisei liner and costs about 2000 yen (20$) one way. Conceivably you could make it to Nippori from Narita, get a massage, and be back within 3 hours. Depending on service, you could be as little as 12,000 yen poorer after this experience.Or, this might be your first or last stop on a longer trip to Japan.?Paradise? is a 2 minute walk from Nippori station (when you exit the station, go down the stairs to the square. Take a right at the bottom of the stairs, walk past a Pachinko parlor and walk past the foot bridge on your right. Stay straight past one alleyway on the left and take the next left. It is like the second building on the right. You should see an English sign that says ?Paradise-2nd floor.?Korean staff spoke limited Japanese, no English, but appeared happy to work with foreigners to overcome language barrier.I was offered massage with release for 8000 yen, topless/bottomless 2,000 yen extra.
Asia BYou sound like a true Roppongi addict.If you find youself out too late and solo, avoid those massagi girls, look for one of the older mamasan ladies hanging around between 2 Motown's, she will take you by the arm and lead you to a place where they have what you want.Or buy one of the street vendors a drink from the convienience store, they are like the mayors of the street and can advise you.The other option is one of the nearby late night shot bars like Deep Blue where the hostesses go to drink and dance after work.Roppongi can be addictive with all the lookers out there. I love to just go and look around at all the beauties. There is a ramen store on the corner by the street leading to Hard Rock where you can get a good bowl of noodles and the best view in the area. Like a fashion parade.
Member #1432
01-26-04, 13:24
Hi,I am planning to visit Tokyo in early Feb. This is my first time in Japan and would be keen to have a local guide preferably female wanting to earn some extra $$$. Working knowledge of English will be a definite plus.
Anyone have recommendations for pink salons aside from Hino and C21? I thought I saw a post somewhere about a place near Shimbashi, but couldn't find the post.Thanks!
Hi there - for those that have missed my earlier posts.In Shibuya on CenterGai - same street as 21 - continue up the street until just before it ends in a 'T'. On the right side you will see a club called the Bar Sky. It's in the basement. Nearly every floor above that is a monger's paradise. The floors are separated into 2 business per floor. So, for example. Second floor is a men's esute (massage) AND a Pink Salon. 2 different services, same floor.Here's the 411:2Fa - Pink Salon - BBBJ 2 girls x45min 8000JPY discount before 7pm2Fb - Men's Esute - Shower w/massage, japanese girls, varied service(s). 8000 - 22000 (3p)5ab - Chinese Esute - Shower w/massage and various services. FS generally available. 15000/45min6ab - Chinese Esute - Shower w/massage and various services. FS generally available. 15000/60min (S-Set from Oyo~san or his cute friend)The Pink Salon chicks will vary from 7's or 8's to downright old and 3's or 4's. But they are all japanese, clean and damn good at their skill. Much better than 21 or Utamaru - even though I believe it's the same company. Just not well known among gaijiin.The chinese esutes are pretty damn honest for chinese, and the girls as decent as any I've had in Shanghai BBS - except for costing 5x more. But, hey this is Japan!When you are done with the fun, step downstairs and enjoy some cold ones at the Bar Sky - it's actually a cool, hip club and known for freebies now and then, too.Soujournp.s. Just got the word tonite that the local LEO is cracking down on touts and scouts. So don't expect alot of street activity. Even in Roppongi several touts were ticketed for simply soliciting for strip clubs! Good news for us - the prices may drop because the business will suffer.
Asia Butterfly
01-27-04, 08:41
EndowedYes Roppongi is a favorite of mine since I have gotten lucky guite a few times with girls that just want to have fun. Moreover all it has cost me is buying drinks and hotel food. I would say that there are quite a few nights that I have gone back to the hotel alone which is why I am asking about a place to get some action.I will go looking for C21 on my next trip.A.B
Crazy Jim Wood
01-27-04, 09:12
Ambassador, Asian B, others concerned about Chinese girls:Sometimes they're all that's out, and as we all know, they sometimes offer FS or rediculously cheap HJ, but are often rip-off artists.I was taken a few times before I learned this little trick:I always ask these girls up front if they offer FS and if they offer HJ and who will provide the service and how much the total cost for the service will be.I've never had a girl promise service or total price and later try to rip me off, bait and switch, etc.I have had some girls pretend to not understand or be evasive and promise that I'll be satisfied or something.But, most girls tell me straight up they only provide HJ or that they only talk & massage and there is another girl who does the HJ.I think if you ask the right questions and avoid evasive girls, you won't be ripped off, as far as price, provider and type of service.A girl's promise of quality service, of course, can never be trusted until verified.Of course, ability to talk Chinese always helps...Good luck,CJW
Concerning Paradise in Nippori: Try to stay away from Hana, average body and poor hj.. I had her and it wasn't worth it.Anybody know of a Korean este that offer fs with Korean girls?
Continuing some info I posted about prices on the mbpolitics board, here's a report to help those of you who can read and speak at least basic Japanese. Of course, if you can't and you're planning to stay a while, you should learn if for no other reason than you won't have to depend on either picking up the relative handful of J-girls who can speak a bit of English and hang around the gaijin-frequented bars hoping to find a husband, sweetheart, or just a bigger "instrument" or paying double what you should pay to get an "indie" or to use Club Boo, Cherry Blossoms, or other agencies that specialize in gaijin. Deriheru prices are about half of what the English-speaking agencies charge and have some dynamite women! First, you need to run a web search via Yahoo.co.jp so it's in Japanese. Enter the search for (all in kanji) first the area followed immediately by (in kanji) "fuuzoku jouhou." This will net you a long list of links, but near the top should be one that shows your area plus "fuuzoku jouhou" in kanji immediately followed by the capitalized romaji "FU-TOWN," then the area you entered within brackets immediately after that. Click on that link, and you should see a bright mustard-yellow background page appear. This is called the Fuzoku Town Page and is virtually the "Yellow Pages" of the sex industry in Japan. Every prefecture in Japan has one.When the info is downloaded, you'll see a sidebar on the left with your city and other cities in your prefecture listed. Click on the one of your choice, and you'll get a listing of all the legal sex businesses in that town: hersu, deriheru, soupu, imekura, pinsaro, esute, etc. Click on the deriheru link and those will show up on the right side. Osaka shows about 130 of them, Tokyo, a whopping 450! (Of course, you can search for any other types you're interested in, too.) Just start clicking on those links, checking the prices, hours, terms, and women until you find one you want to contact. If you have just basic Japanese reading ability, you can decipher the main info in most of them, I think. Believe me, my reading is painfully slow--about elementary school level, but after navigating them and using their services for the past year, I've become quite adept at it. The rewards are trememdous!Happy discovery.
Super6stud9
01-28-04, 04:20
Inakajin,Can you post the link??? For Tokyo, and Osaka. Japan is on my list to do. Greek is standard overthere . I am doing preliminary research."Click on the one of your choice, and you'll get a listing of all the legal sex businesses in that town: hersu, deriheru, soupu, imekura, pinsaro, esute, etc. Click on the deriheru link and those will show up on the right side. Osaka shows about 130 of them, Tokyo, a whopping 450!"
Roppongi historical questions. Where was the old Nicola's Pizza? Where is (was?) the new one? Where was (is?) the famous TSK.CCC? Anything comparably spectacular in current Roppongi nightlife? I was in Roppongi a month or so ago and there was this convey of cars parked outside one building with serious bodyguards; someone passed the rumor that it was a senior russian official. Is that the place to go? Any reasonable English Language references on the state of the Tokyo Underworld? Where do foreign execs doing business hang out these days?
For those inquiring about Ueno, it is only 4 minutes from Nippori, either by JR or Keisei. The red light type area is across the far end of the park, as well as accross the ABAB department store.The place accross from Yushima station, 2nd beside the AM/PM, just raised their prices to 10,000 yen, but that still includes FS. There`s another good one two streets parallel inside the red light area (pink sign with simple "este" written).Haven`t checked-out the soaplands (NY NY and Champs) for a while, but used to be a great deal at 9,300 for 50 min, and the price hasn`t changed. I believe instruction were put up here many times in the past, so take a look.
Here is are links for places, but you'll need intermediate Japanese or a decent translation site to get anywhere.Tokyo (1344): http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/a/f03/f03_05.htmOsaka (550): http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/a/f06/f06_01.htmWith this many places, it kinda makes the lists you see in a USA a joke. Doing the math, you could say roughly 15-25,000 girls are listed for Tokyo alone!
Captain Pi
01-29-04, 06:52
Lion,WOW! Thanks for the links. Holy cow! There are so many amazing girls! Dang, if I were Japanese, I could have so much fun.
CJW's advise is pretty much spot on regarding Chinese, esp Shibuya area.I have found them a bit more dodgy or evasive in Shinjuku, esp on the street that parallels the Seibu Shinjuku Stn, just past the Shinjuku Prince Hotel. There are a few Chinese places on that stretch that my little voice always tells me that they aren't going to deliver. On the other hand, the Chinese in Shibuya area have been pretty straight up with me the last couple of years. If I ask the girl on the street if she will do the massage, she actually is the one. Decent, albeit pricey service, but no rip-offs, IMHO.
Hi All,Has the STD in the SoapLands blown over yet?Is it safe to get a BBBJ?Thanks,-JM
There are a few pink salons around Narita station. Handy for International travellers. Can anyone speak Japanese well enough to find out the gaijin policy.The phone number is 0476-24-0591.
JoseI don?t know about you, but the clap scare scared me enough that I will avoid BBBJ in places like C21/Hinomaru until I see a written report by the WHO that the place is safe. So I have recently (Tuesday and Wednesday, the first two days of my two weeks visit) begun to ask for condoms (Condomu wa daijobu desuka / condomu ga hoshii desu/ condomu ga arimasu ka ? or words to that effect). I visited Pinocchio in Shibuya on Tue (7000Y) ? got a fat girl and an old girl, and was happy with both (appearances aren?t everything). Both were ready to comply with the request for condom (I had told the guy at the reception beforehand anyway) and provided decent (albeit ?uninspired?, as reviewers are wont to say) service. On Wed I went back to C21 (6000 Y before 7pm), came (safely) in the mouth of a young, slim and skittish server and subsequently had a nice conversation in halting (on my side) J with Minaki ? a mellow 31 years old non-looker but pleasant conversation partner, not yet burned out by what must be quite an alienating job (she has been working at C21 for two months only). By the way, I noticed that old Yumi is still around, looking even more world-weary/shop-worn but still sexy in my opinion ? I will either try a meishi next time or just hope for the luck of the draw. I wonder how these girls do it, five/six hours a day hopping from a BJ to the next. By the way, Minaki told me that C21 is predominantly patronized by gaijins. I asked her (what the hell) if gaijins really had bigger tools and she said that there are ?iroirona? such tools (various kinds) but on the average it was all the same. So there it goes, yet another clich? demolished. To be fair, she may have been biased by the sight of my shrivelled little organ, after her colleague had had her way with it. Anyway, bottom line is, if you ask for condoms in C21/Pinocchio, they will accommodate you without any questions asked, and you don?t even need to bring your own.
Tokyo Stop-Over Escape Plans (current as of posting date)Fellow Mongers: Please point out any mistakes, oversights or corrections that need to take place.Narita Airport has two terminals. Both of them have equivalent services available. Please see: http://www.narita-airport.or.jp/airport_e/guide/t_info/contents.html for a list of which airlines are in what terminal. This article is mostly related to Terminal One but you can check the official site for information regarding Terminal Two: http://www.narita-airport.or.jp/airport_e/index.html Both terminals have been recently remodeled and there is a great array of shops, restaurants, fast food counters and even a convenience store (Lawson) or two. While not exactly full-service shopping and dining, it?s very complete and reasonable for an international airport.OK, first you have to determine how much time you have. Less than three or four hours is going to be problematic. The more hours you have the better your potential experience. I?m not going to go into specific places for mongering here, this is strictly for your travel logistics. Here is how you might plan your escape:4-hour layover: Use the Keisei Skyliner and head for Nippori or Ueno.8-hour to 16-hour layover: Use the Keisei Skyliner or Narita Express and head for Tokyo, Kawasaki or Yokohama.24-hour layover: Use the ground transportation (take your pick) and head for a nice business hotel in Tokyo, Kawasaki or Yokohama and enjoy yourself.Huge variance will take place in your immigration/customs passage. You will most likely need to claim your bags and clear customs and immigration for any lay-over. Hopefully, you will be able to get through there without too much delay. Figure 30-60 minutes from entering the terminal from the plane to emerging from the restricted area just beyond customs.Upon leaving customs you will probably need to get some cash. Bring travelers checks if possible because real currency costs a few percent more. The foreign exchange windows are right outside in the main terminal area and are actually branches of major banks. The rate is set one time per day and doesn?t vary much, if at all between the banks. You will also be able to get the same rate at most foreign exchange windows at major banks and major hotels.Right in Terminal One as you exit customs are some counters for ground transportation. The Keisei Skyliner is the best deal for the money (less than Y2000) but it drops you off in Nippori or Ueno which requires a transfer to JR (Japan Railway) or the subway if you are heading elsewhere. Buy your ticket at these counters or head downstairs and buy them at the Keisei or JR storefronts near the platform entrances.There are coin lockers (Y300/day) and luggage storage services available (less than Y1000/day) if you want to leave them at the airport. See the airport website for more information.Ground transportation should be your first decision after your airport logistics are done. Assume your bags are stowed and you?re free to head away from the airport. If you?re going to use the limousine bus to Yokohama, exit at the terminal level to the bus stops outside. If you?re going to use the Skyliner or NEX follow the signs and go down one level and head for the train platforms (they are both in the same area and actually next to each other).Enjoy the one hour ride into the Tokyo area. The Skyliner will stop at Nippori and Ueno. The NEX stops at Tokyo and Shinjuku, Ikebukuro or Yokohama. Going beyond Tokyo will add 20-30 minutes to that hour. See: http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2027.html for basic information. These trains usually run exactly on time (and I mean exactly). You will rarely be late unless there is a suicide somewhere on the line or other mishap.Suggested outings:Nippori/Ueno ? Use the Keisei Skyliner from either terminal. Cost is Y1920 at the time of this writing. Plenty of information available on this board about those areas.Shibuya ? Take the Keisei Skyliner to Nippori and transfer to the JR Yamanote Line counter-clockwise to Shibuya OR take the Narita Express (NEX) to Tokyo or Shinagawa and transfer to the JR Yamanote Line clockwise to Shibuya.Ikebukuro ? Take the Keisei Skyliner to Nippori and take the JR Yamanote Line counter-clockwise to Ikebukuro OR spend a bunch more money and take the NEX directly there, but it?s a long way around.Shinjuku ? Take the NEX to Shinjuku or save money and take the Keisei Skyliner to Nippori and transfer to the JR Yamanote Line counter-clockwise.Kawasaki ? Take the NEX to Tokyo or Shinagawa and transfer to the JR Tokaido Line (or JR Keihin Tohoku Line which take a little longer) to JR Kawasaki Station.Yokohama (Koganecho) ? Take the NEX to Yokohama or take the limousine bus to YCAT (Yokohama City Air Terminal) and transfer to a local Keihin Kyuko (Keikyu) line to Hinodecho or Koganecho (depending on which direction you want to walk). The area of interest is between Hinodecho and Koganecho stations so it doesn?t matter which one you go to. It?s a few minutes by train from Yokohama Station or YCAT.Plan your return carefully. Trains depart exactly on-time and you?ll usually have to wait 30 minutes for the next one if you miss the one you have a reservation on.The Paradise Massage in Nippori which CJW described in another article is probably the optimal for a quickie because it?s literally a few minutes (if you run or walk very fast) to and from Keisei Nippori Station. The map I posted at: http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/attachment.php?s=&postid=165680 probably gives a good idea on how to find the place. If a gaijin like me can find the place, anyone probably can.Other considerations are going to be time-of-day, national holidays and the weather. The trains run from early morning until about midnight or just before. Mongering can be done in the morning but most places open between noon and 18:00 and close between 24:00-26:00 (2:00AM) but there is a wide variance in hours. Someone here can probably give the hours the booths are open in Koganecho and Kawasaki. National holidays fall on random days, see: http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2062.html for more information. The weather is relatively mild (not exceedingly cold in the winter like Buffalo NY or exceeding hot and muggy in the summer like Houston TX) but it will get a bit chilly and muggy during the appropriate seasons. The rain is going to be the biggest problem you?ll probably face and that?s usually only during the rainy season which is from June to mid-July or so.Japanese business hotels usually have very small rooms but are almost always very clean and safe. Prices vary from around Y5000-Y12000/night. Good place to look for a hotel are:http://www.jnto.go.jp/dblinks/DE/FRM/SH.html click kanto and select the type of room and price rangehttp://gojapan.about.com/cs/tokyoaccom/l/bltokyo_lowidx.htm http://www.tokyo.to/links/Section/Accomodation.htmlhttp://www4.famille.ne.jp/~tyo-stay/e-nikkanren/entop.htmhttp://www.welcome.city.yokohama.jp/eng/tourism/hotel/07.html for hotels near Yokohama stationSome other suggestions:Tokiwa Hotel very close to Nippori Station.Kinuya Hotel very close to Keisei Ueno Station (and JR Ueno Station).Keihin Hotel very close to Shinagawa Station.Kawasaki Mets Hotel very close to Kawasaki Station.Kadoya Hotel very close to Shinjuku Station.Kawasaki Grand Hotel very close to Horinouchi-cho.
After revisiting Seiki 21 and Pinocchio earlier this week, I felt that I should try something new instead of going back to the usual places. So I checked this board and found recent laudatory references to an este (FS at 10K, up from 8k a few postings earlier). The place, if I recall the postings well, is opposite the (East) exit of Yushima. subway station (near the AmPm shop just outside the station). One problem with that este was that I am not sure I found it ? the one I found was on the 3rd or 4t floor in a side street, very near the corner of the main street on which the Am/Pm is located. A second problem was that it remained stubbornly closed since 6:30pm up to about 9:30pm, when I gave up (I had dinner in between), on a Friday night (?!). However, the place may actually be good, because the few times (at least three) that I went back to check, I always found the same friendly chubby salariman who was coming back like me to see if the place had opened. We shared a couple of good laughs on our predicament. I have been a couple of times in similar situations, when a friendly J-monger shares my joys and miseries in the pursuit of the elusive Graal of mercenary lust, and I found that they made me feel psychologically much closer to the Japanese as a people, because of the feeling of camaraderie and fellowship that inevitably develops, breaking through the barriers of race and language. But back to business ? in between checking if the este was back into operation, I roamed the area and was invited by many female touts to go into nomiya (drinking oufits). I asked them if I could not instead settle for some friendly hanky-panky with them, and was each time rejected without outrage but leaving no hope as to my chances. Fed up with waiting for the este to open, I went back to the area where my hotel is (Akasaka ? the centre of politics in Japan, but not devoid of interesting WSGF fodder). The two or three parallel back streets near the Belle Vie shopping complex, at that hour also teemed with female street touts, but this time advertising themselves for sex. Now we are talking, I thought. Trouble was that I am a bit of a cheapskate when it comes to sex (at least on a per-encounter basis, as opposed to aggregate monthly or yearly budgets), so the idea of disbursing 10000k for a mere HJ (which where I live I can get for one quarter of the price), or even for a BJ, did really go against the grain. To make a long story short, I drove a hard bargain for a 6K BJ with ?Yuki?, a relatively tall and busty 30-something with excellent nipple definition, but was then swayed into renegotiating a package which included the fleeting appearance of a second girl who did take a few plunges at my tool, for 3k more. The whole thing being extremely hurryed I am not sure if I think it was good value for money. But at least if someone asks me now ?Have you ever had sex with two girls?, I can say yes?In saying this I would be stretching the definition of ?having sex? in the opposite direction to what Bill Clinton did in one famous occasion, but what the hell ? who would you trust, Bill Clinton or me?Today (Saturday) I went to Utamaro (the place upstairs from Seiki 21). True to my cheapskate person, I made sure I got there before 7pm, so that I would get the 6K rate instead of the 7K/8K rate later in the evening. I had Sono (or Soko) and ?Yuki? (not the same as above). Sono is REALLY not a looker but she was so friendly that she made my heart melt. When I told her that she was beatiful (something that I tend to say only to not-beautiful girls, either because I am an inveterate liar - or because I am kind-hearted - or both), she laughed and told me: ?You think so because it is dark, but with the lights on you would think differently?. Isn?t that sweet of a working girl? Concerned about her potential loss of income due to my failure to come, I asked her if she would be paid less because of that (I was planning to tip her as a compensation). Her answer offered an interesting glimpse into the workings of the pink salon trade ? she told me something to the effect that in the BJ-team she had the role of ?helper? (that?s the word she used, in English in a Japanese sentence) to prepare the punter for the coup-de-grace by her colleague ? so it was understood that she was not expected to have him come most of the times. On the other hand, Yuki is an Utamaro veteran and she was much more business-like. She quickly hand- and tonsil-pumped me into release, also aided by the sight of a real cutie sucking off a dirty old man in the adjacent cabin (there is little privacy chez Utamaro). The real shocker however was what Yuki told me ? I don?t know if it was something made up ad-hoc to send me away after release (I could not have managed a second release anyway) or if it is the new house policy:!!! **** UTAMARO OPERATES NOW ON A 2-BJ BASIS INSTEAD OF 3-BJ **** !!!!What has the world come to? I was really disappointed, I have been so intrigued by the idea that in Tokyo you can get 3 BBBJ for 60 USD (a great conversational point, which I am sorry I have actually never used) that the notion that this great arrangement is now history hurt me much more that the actuall loss of the expected third oral partner in this particular visit.Six days to go (I leave next Friday) - so I may have a few more reports to deliver.
Crazy Jim Wood
02-01-04, 01:00
Tokyo Stop-Over Escape Plans (current as of posting date)Just a few details--most main branch banks have a desk which changes money. Banks give better rates than hotels and traveller's checks get better rates than cash, but these desks often close early (3 p.m. or so).With immigration these days being so crowded, and a lot of flights arriving in the afternoon, by the time you clear customs and arrange local transportation into Tokyo area it is going to be 8-9 p.m. at night. I would recommend travellers change 400$ or so before coming to Japan, which should be plenty for sex (150-200$), lodging (60-100$) local tra vel (50-60$) and food, you might loose a little money but if you are on a connecting flight your big concern is time not a few yen.You're probably already tired from your trip so you don't want to spend hours searching the backstreets of Tokyo for an on site location. Find a hotel then order the girl, that will be most time effective.As for lodging, I would recommend Shinokubo, Gotanda, Shibuya, etc., somewhere within delivery range of Paichu, AF Hitoduma, and other places reviewed here, such as Party Runi, etc., which offer take out. Also, no need to pay twice for a love hotel for take out sex and a sleeping hotel.
EXCHANGE --To get an even better exchange rate go to the Terminal International ATM machine. It is on the main street level, just turn right as you exit customs area, then down the main hall way, thru some doors and look to the right in a big hallway. Much better rate than the cash window mongers. Does not seem to be a $ limit.TRANSIT - --You can check with the airport bus people to see if there are any traffic delays, if not, it may be quicker to take a bus as they will go to most major hotels. My usual time, touchdown to check in at Tokyo Hotel is 2.5 hrs and has been as short as 2 hrs. If there is traffic, (and they will tell you) the train is better.I have been as bold as to have delivery arranged in advance and just getting out of the shower when the doorbell chimes. Then Jet rag lala land.
Shibuya Este ReviewI was in Shibuya the other night intending to try the discount at Shibuya Precious Girls, a gaijin-friendly seikan that?s been recommended here before. (They?re having a campaign?if you say you saw their home page it?s 40 minutes for 9K and 60 minutes for 13K http://www.pre-girls.com/) Instead, I found a gaijin-friendly Men?s este. Or it found me, I should say, when a Japanese tout found me before I reached pre-girls. I usually avoid places with touts, but I lost my normally strong sales resistance a couple beers earlier and decided to check it out. The price was usually 15K for an hour, but was now 10K with their winter promotion. When I saw the pictures of the girls, I was impressed and decided to try. I took the first one they gave me and she turned out to be a young beauty from Hong Kong. I think the name she used was Kana. After the shower, a sort of comedy ensued, however. We skipped the massage, became naked, and after kissing and fondling her, she tried to have me do a sort of dry, covered Sumatra with her. The first condom broke, and then two more broken condoms later, I suggested some lotion. When that condom broke, I suggested a hand job, after she rebuffed my request for oral service. It took a while to convince her that a condom was really not necessary for that, but she eventually agreed and finally gave me a happy ending with the lotion and her hand. She claimed it was her first day at the shop and I?m inclined to believe her. I was her first ?European?, as she called me, and she did seem to enjoy checking out the foreign devil?s equipment and shooting capacity.The sex was disappointing, but to my surprise, she was actually interesting and fun. Her laugh was honest and natural, and she seemed fresh and intelligent. She said she was studying Japanese and I believed her, as we communicated in Japanese. As we talked, she indicated an interested in going out, like on a real date or something, but unfortunately I?m not looking for that now. As sexually inept as she was, I have to admit I had a good time?go figure. Although I will probably try a few other places before I go back to this one, I think those who like and know how to ?work? these este shops would find it worth looking into.Belaggio (http://www.a-side.com/bellagio/index2.htm)Pros1. Beautiful girls most 7-8, even a few 9s2. Gaijin friendly, seemed like they?d be patient with beginning Japanese speakers3. Management seemed honest4. Winter campaign discount--60 minute course 10,000 Cons1. Just a HJ guaranteed2. Located in the middle of the love hotel district (not my preferred area)
Osaka Brian
02-03-04, 04:32
You might want to be careful with business hotels. I was under the impression that some lock the doors at a certain time for the night for "security reasons". I stayed in one business hotel in Tokyo and was told that the doors lock at eleven pm for the night. Of course, this was almost six years ago when I really didn't speak any Japanese so perhaps I am mistaken.Does anyone have any info on this?Osaka Brian
Nampa....After reading numerous reports on freebies, I'm planning on attempting this weekend.A few questions: Is the probability higher to try to get the OL's before of after the train?Is it better to take her back to my hotel room or get a love hotel?Thanks,JM
Jose MI am not an expert on this but I have a friend that told me he hangs around the train station near the end of the night and is sucessful at picking up strays in this manner. Just hearsay..From my experiance, the OL's have the train schedule down to the timing that NASA uses to time landings on orbiting planets. I have seen them time drinks, conversations, goodbyes and velocity of walking to make the proper connections. Short of a secret device to turn all clocks in the place back 30 min and then hanging out at the platform, I would say its a long shot. The all night party ones are just that, all night. But, hey, it is worth a shot.
Today I visited Pinokio. It was 7,000 yen for 2 girls. The girls were very good at their jobs, although not the most beautiful in Japan. I had Miko and Nana. Pinokio is more relaxed than the other gaijin friendly places in Shibuya. There is more space and the lighting is better. It is a bit more private than the other places - which could be good or bad depending on your view. The staff are better too. The other places the staff scold you for gently patting the girls on the head whilst they are performing. None of that here.Outside Pinokio some tout was offering full sex for 10,000 in the same building (for 40-45 minutes). Maybe that place is called 'LIPS' something.
It looks like Shibuya is gaining more gaijin friendly places. Is this because of rough economy?Anyway, it seems the este place on the 6F of the sex tower in Shibuya got closed down by the police. 5F was on holiday too when I went, so only the BJ bar and health club on 2F still run for gaijin - 3F is JP only?
I forgot to ask. Does anyone know of any gaijin-friendly image clubs? I've searched high and low but not found a single one, and it's something I am yearning to try.
Went to Paradise in Nippori yesterday afternoon again. Needed a massage more than the happy ending because my shoulders are killing me. Got a 31-YO Korean named Sora. Average looking, a little paunch and stretch marks around the middle but very good massage and decent happy ending.Lily (Lee, Lee-Lee) was much better looking and had a far better rack but either one works for me.
Hot Bot,I?ve also sensed that more opportunities are emerging for gaijin mongers. More new "finds" on this board and greater number of dicount offers on the fuzoku portals have piqued my interest. I?m wondering if this isn?t the slow season?January and February are the coldest months and maybe there are fewer mongers out willing to hit the pavement. In any event, I think this is a good time to knock on some doors and see what other places are out there, open to the alien monger. I?ve got some more free time over the next couple of weeks, and I?d like to find some new gaijin-friendly seikans or image clubs in the Shibuya/Ebisu area that haven?t been reported here. I?ll, of course, report any successful finds here. If any fellow bush hunters want to join me, send me a private message or an email me: misterhman at excite dot com. (Japanese speaking ability not necessary, just a thick skin!) Speaking of image clubs, here?s an interesting one some of you may not have seen. It?s called Jyunkan Bus or Shibuya Bus Stop . (An image club, if you don?t know, usually offers the ?legal? sexual play--touching, kissing, BJ, HJ, etc. but no FS?in a role play or special setting. A popular one is the ?sexual harassment course? [!] where the girl dresses in an office uniform and the man gets to molest her and have Clinton sex with her.) If only my regular bus ride was like this...http://www.shibuya-busstop.com/If you?re still learning Japanese--1. Click the left link at the bottom which means ?ride the bus?2. On the next page, click the box under ?What?s New?. It is ?Play shokai? which shows you the kind of ?play? you can expect at this shop. In the pop up window, click ?go? and then ?next? to see the photos. Notice the female ?passengers? are wearing eye masks! It?s unlikely this is open to the alien sex hunter, but I?ll try anyway. Also the link to the more famous image club of this type, the Yamanote Train, alas, no longer works. Out of business, I guess. Alien Sex Mongers of Tokyo, Unite!Just a thought here--if business IS slow at a regular ?closed to foreigners? place, and enough ?safe? Japanese speaking aliens knock on the door of one shop, I wonder when they might reconsider their no-foreigner policy. Most of us operate independently, going to proven places and avoiding the unproven. But it might be interesting to see if an organized effort would open a closed-to-foreigners shop. If several members from this board went to the same shop at different times and politely asked, the shop might start to see the advantage (significant business) of accepting foreign devils. Methinks there?s not much to lose trying this, what say you? Any thoughts?
Ambassador
02-04-04, 10:11
Osaka Brian: Yes, many business hotels do have a mongen, the time when they lock up. Likewise, many do not have a mongen. If you spend more than a few nights a year in a business hotel and want to get good information, and can read some Japanese (don't have to read a lot of kanji), I recommend getting a hotel guide book. The one I have is titled Zenkoku Hoteru O-ru Gaido; there are others, but when I bought this one a few years ago it was the biggest (over 1500 pages) and best. It has hotels for the whole country, as the name says, divided into regions, prefectures and cities. Beginning of the book is Hokkaido, end is Okinawa, so easy to find the right place in the book quickly. All kinds of hotels are included. Each city, even mid-size ones, has a map showing the hotels around the station areas, and rings showing walking distance for 5 and 10 minutes. Each hotel gets a fourth of a page for description, picture of the outside of the hotel, room rates, etc., and each one includes easy to understand symbols, so you know for example whether your room will have a movie channel or not. (Hey, it's a crucial point for me ;-) Oh, and most importantly, it says whether there is a mongen or not (nashi). Lots of the hotels have a URL listed as well. This particular guide may not be on the market now, but get one that is similar and you won't regret it. Even for people who can't read Japanese, you will be able to figure it out. Lion and Inakajin (who recently posted the Fuzoku Town website info): Thanks to you, I've probably wasted (?) 10 hours this week surfing the different sites. I am compiling a list of AF girls in the Kanto region if you guys are interested. Will post later when it is more complete. Still got some researching to do :-)One of my favorite links found so far, and probably one I bookmarked a long time ago and it got lost in the abyss of my bookmarks list, is the one for Hitoduma. Many shops, particularly in Kanto. And found one called Love Forever that has only five women shown, but all in their 40s. Very intriguing.Hey, I can't be the only one who has a thing for older women!
Yes, I know that Hi no Maru is as been reported on over and over again, but I don't come to Tokyo often, so I had to try it again ? for old time?s sake (it is the place where I lost my pink salon virginity). It was not as disappointing as expected (does that make sense?). Chubby girl (would be considered overweight by most), sexy look, short hair, pouty lips, looks you into the eyes as she is working on you, I loved her. No FS. Sumata offered and declined. Forgot her name (three syllables: something like Sayaka or similar) but she is number 3 in their list. I liked her personality ? I told her that I had enjoyed her company and she seemed sincere when she said that she had enjoyed mine too (for a fee of course).I also wanted to try something new (for me), so I went to Ueno and thanks to the excellent directions on this board I easily located the soapland ?New York New York?. Interesting concept, lots of soap and water (and disinfectants ? iodine based I would say ? my main member was hurting a little from all the chemicals). BBBJ (not TC). Finished as HJ (not too good). Total 9,200 yen. I must say that I share the dissatisfaction of other posters with the available choice of girls ? I had no choice, except chubby, friendly and ugly Enami (past mid-40s I would guess). I think I understood from Enami that other girls do not accept gaijin ? I guess that opens up a market niche for her ? She did her job nicely, but all in all I prefer the BJ quickies one gets in the usual pink salon places. Less theater (such as baths, showers and washings) and more action. Obviously the real (read: $$$) soaplands must be quite a different experience. Will not go back to NYNY unless I know that a better looking girl is available to gaijins.
My last night in Japan: I am staying in Tokyo but was intrigued by reports about Kogane-cho ? so I set out for Yokohama by train (Tokaido line from Shinbashi, but there are lots of other ways to get there - just ask your hotel information desk). Unfortunately, when I got there, I made a mistake that I am sure smarter mongers will not make, but just in case let me warn you: instead of leaving the JR Tokaido station to go to Kogane-cho (by taxi or by private railway) you should NOT let yourself be lured into following signs inside the JR station for Kogane-i (apparently quite a far-away place). But this is what I did anyway, and it meant ending up on a slow train heading back to Tokyo (Shibuya). In Shibuya I tried looking for the seikan places mentioned by a previous poster (Bellagio and Precious Girls) but did not have their directions with me so I ended up going back to ? guess where ? Seiki 21? Boring, you will say - typical American tourist (I am neither American nor a tourist but I know what you mean). I concede that, but the fact is I am in love with Yumi ? I saw her last time a year ago but I often thought of her since then. She is nothing special I guess but in my mind she looks like a Japanese Diana Ross (without fancy hair jobs, just the lips and the face). I recommend her anyway, at least for those that are not turned off by the less-than-model-slim look. The meishi-cum-condom (at my request) ended very quickly (or at least so I felt). I told Yumi that I wanted to marry her (technically a bluff because I am not marriageble) or that failing that she should come to my reasonably luxurious hotel in the morning for a reasonable fee (double her Seiki 21 rate) but she did not budge. She said she is too tired in the morning to get up early. Next time, Or never.
Hello,Here's my favorite links for web guides to mongering in Tokyo and beyond.http://www.lvg.co.jp/top.htm Love Gallery. Many search options.http://fuzokudx.com/top.html Fuzoku DX. Good reviews and lots of free videos. Ever want to see how <real> japanese perform the act of sumata, paizuri, etc? Now you can see!I'll confirm about sexworld shibuya and the infamous chinese esutes. As far as 3rd floor goes, hmmm, I'll check it as well. Still, 2nd floor aint bad - you can have your choice of Pink Salon or Esute (Health) with FS pretty much guaranteed uppn asking. Remember, don't ask "do you do FS?", just ask "condom arimasuka?" "Do you have a condom?" If the answer is yes - then FS is on the menu! Japanese wg prefer indirect questions and answers - as fo most japanese, for that matter. Condoms automatically imply sex.S
Crazy Jim Wood
02-06-04, 03:35
Speaking of image clubs, here?s an interesting one some of you may not have seen. It?s called Jyunkan Bus or Shibuya Bus Stop . See this interesting article on the orgy bus : http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/waiwai/0402/0203orgy.html
Super6stud9
02-06-04, 04:55
LION , GREAT LINKS!! YOU JUST BLEW OUT MY MARRIAGE PLANS!!Damn you Lion, Now I have to visit Japan. To think , I can have anal with these angels. I postpone my wedding for one more year, but no more. :)http://www.office-101.com/tokuhou/index.htmTHANK YOU. TIME TO LEARN JAPANESE!!================="Here is are links for places, but you'll need intermediate Japanese or a decent translation site to get anywhere.Tokyo (1344): http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/a/f03/f03_05.htmOsaka (550): http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/a/f06/f06_01.htmWith this many places, it kinda makes the lists you see in a USA a joke. Doing the math, you could say roughly 15-25,000 girls are listed for Tokyo alone!"
Have anyone ever tried http://www.pantherclaw.com/g.htmthis club ?
super6stud9,Where do you get the information that anal is available? I looked at those sites and couldn't find anything about anal.
Ranko/Orgy Club Update:A few months back, I reported in detail about an orgy club I attended in Shibuya. I went there again yesterday, my fourth time, after a couple of month?s hiatus. To quickly review how the club works: ?members? meet at an apartment or hotel room, single men pay from 15-30K, couples around 5K, single women don?t pay, of course. (In fact, according to one club report in the wai wai section of the Mainichi, the women receive a 20K ?transportation allowance?.) There are two parties a day, one in the afternoon and one in the evening and they each last three hours. You have to make a reservation in advance, and they call you a few hours before the start to confirm your participation (the manager has to balance the male/female ratio). Here?s my quick review:Pros? Easy way for a single male to participate in an orgy? two FS rounds guaranteed? at-home atmosphere?the first 45 minutes are chatting over drinks and snacks meeting your partners (drinks and snack are free)? gaijin can receive special attention?(more that once I was the first gaijin for one of the girls, and they seemed to enjoy the ?exotic? experience)? The manager (mama-san) seemed to care about the customers? chatting them up, avoiding overly lopsided ratios, even made yakisoba and miso soup once. Cons? No way of knowing what the girls are like for first timers (no pictures on their web site)? higher level Japanese conversation ability desired ? a few of the Japanese male participants may feel uncomfortable with a gaijin participating (aliens getting extra attention from the girls, insecurities about their own equipment and performance, etc.) GirlsMost of the girls were 5-6 in looks, and all were Japanese and in their early to mid 20s. I never found an ugly girl there, and I even got one great one on my first and third party?7 face, 9 body and near 10 technique. (I later learned she was a former minor AV actress.) Yesterday, the two I got had attractive faces, large breasts, good enthusiasm, and one provided wonderful fellatio. On the downside, these two were a little more Rubenesque than I would have liked. RatioAt three of the four parties I attended, four guys and two girls participated. At the third party, there were 2 guys and 4 girls, including the above-mentioned former AV babe. Usually, every one went to the same room and 2-on-1 situations developed for one round, and after showers and half-time chat, partners were switched for the second round.More gaijin-friendly?When I first tried this place several months ago, it had just opened. I was refused by 4 or 5 other groups before and this place took a few calls and false starts before they accepted me. (I later learned that the mama-san was worried about the foreign devil making some J-men uncomfortable, which I found to be true in a few cases, as mentioned above.) I was their first alien, but one of the girls yesterday told me that since then, a few others have participated, so perhaps they?re a little more gaijin-friendly now. AdviceIf you want to try one of these, your Japanese speaking level needs to be at least intermediate level. Beginning level Japanese speakers should not even THINK of attending one of these on their own! Also, you need to be a team player, so to speak, and make the others, especially the J-men feel comfortable, talking and joking with them, not being selfish with the girls, etc. Here are two information boards that have information on these parties or circles.One is marvellous-net:http://www5b.biglobe.ne.jp/~m_love/party_top.htm Here?s another:http://www.www-21.com/adult/03_05p2.html(Note to regular WSG contributors: The mama-san wasn?t at the club I attend yesterday, so I wasn?t able to ask her if I could post the home page and phone number here, so I won?t. But I?d be happy to pass this along to WSG members who have contributed information here, seem ?normal? and would behave respectfully. If it helps, you can use my name too, when you call. Just send me a private message.) Out for now.
Hi guys,It has been a while since I last posted and I got a message from a fellow WSG follower asking what I have been doing. I have been a regular at the adult parties as of late. Found some interesting girls there and they seem to be getting some new girls fairly regularly, I will post some pictures anon.I had a great time the other day with MAX at the party. There was a new girl named Maki who said she just started working there as I am a regular there they don`t press me or my guests on time spent there. So we basically stayed for three hours at the party talking with the girls and drinking (They serve beer, cocktails with Korean vodka, and soft drinks the snacks leave much to be desired so generally I take along some stuff I like to snack on and the girls enjoy the stuff as well. Since I know most of the girls and know what they like to eat I take those items. Really gets some mileage when it comes to service time. I was having trouble deciding which girl to go with but finally chose the new girl Maki. Once we got into the private section of the party I discovered that I was her First customer. It was a little ackward at first but with gentle instructions she complied readily. It was great, like having breaking in a cherry. She was shy but had a good body though a little thicker than I usually like but it the general experience was one on the better ones at the place. The last couple of times I was there I got to the party later than usual and asked a couple of the girls whether they were hungry and invited them out after work. They agreed to going out with us after work and had a good time getting to know them better. One of the girls last night was interested in getting into Adult Videos so I called a friend of mine who is a porn actress and asked her if she was free to meet up with us. She agreed so MAX and I went over to meet up with her. However the girl who instigated the meeting failed to show up but MAX had a great time I think getting an inside view into the porn trade here and meeting her. I think the guys who I`ve taken to the party will be bored reading this but hey....Have a great time guys let me know if there is anything out there worth checking out. I prefer FS to BJ. Great article JIM would like to know which newspaper the place advertises but I guess it won`t be too difficult tracking it down. If any of you guys are successful getting in let us know.
Here is my review on Pantherclaw :(http://www.pantherclaw.com). To my point of view this a worthtrusty establishment, serious with no surprises and very nice girls there providing good services, they act as girlfriends types, I had several experiences with two japanese girls, not the gaijin ones; well in Japan, I eat only local.I met two of these, Fleur and another one who seem to have left this club. If you are into sm, go for fleur, she is exquisite, friendly and so experienced for her age. So this club provides the best service for gaijin, if I compare to others.I remembered, you have to be a member, so you pay a fee for this and I had to go to the office flat in Roppongi,where you meet the manager, nice friendly japanese girl, questions asked and answered in order for them to check your profile, trust works on both side, and then here you go, order. Have fun.
Mister HIntriguing report on the parties.Do you think they would let in a quiet, respectful gaigun who is without hearing and can't speak?Just a thoughtEn~
Hi there,Went to G-Style in Shibuya. (www.g-style.us) Hooked up with a cute spinner named Yuki and tried the basic course. Pleasant experience well within the envelope of these types of clubs, namely a bit of mutal masturbation, CBJ, Covered sumata, 69, DATY and AR. Price out the door for 60min was 16k. I had to check it out to provide a decent report.1) Japanese requirements - minimal, I called on phone and needed to understand the location and room number. (4th floor, 4-B). Then basically answered 'yes' (wakarimashite) to everything the guy said, even though I didn't understand about 80%.2) Directions - go from Hachiko exit across the street then turn left. When you get to the major intersection turn right and parallel route 246. Look for building that says ESP on the sign. It's also the Muscian's Institute building.3) Cleaner and the girls are cuter than the Shibuya Sex World location, but the mileage is lower IMO. FS may or not be an option, I'm not sure if I want to spend 2 or 3 times here to find out. Though Chinatsu looks like fun for 1 or 2 tries.Update: Went to Gotanda to try the YuYu1 - called and asked if gaijiin were ok. They responded that I could not play there. Would like to try Paichu, but probably need to go the first time with a Japanese member. Given that it's now low season to fly to China (less than 250$), I'll save my money and fly to BJ for a weekend and have 5x the fun for the same price!
As far as Ueno Soaplands go, the Champs D'Elysee next to NY NY is the way to go, plus they give you more options on the women. Don't forget - Mondays are your chance to win your next visit!
Rankou/orgy Parties:I have participated 3 times to Orgy parties in Meguro, Iidabashi and Shinjuku. I agree with Mister H:-don't think of participating if you don't speak Japanese, I would even say a very good Japanese.- Communication is essential as it is orgy parties: people going there are not looking for only sex but something more.- I have been really well treated and been a kind of attraction.- Papa-san has been really helpful.- I haven't felt any stress the first time, Japanese people there were a bit cold at first but the 30 min introduction are necessary.- usually, it was a 2 to 1 ratio. DOn't trust the number of participants written in the website (BBS), because it is wrong.Today's party was really great: 8 guys, 4 girls (7 to 9 looking).I felt "in love" with one of the girl named Eri. Great body, good manners, good FS and BBBJ, we spent 25 min just two of us.I have never been allowed to CIM (Mister H, what about your parties?)In 2h30, I could had 5 FS/BBBJ sessions. One girl's technique was the best I have ever had.Anyway, I don't think I will go to Pink Salon or health clubs anymore. For 20K, FS/BBBJ with at least four girls!Manners are really IMPORTANT there.Actually, to watch and being watched during a session is quite nice. No taboo, at home ambiance.MISTER H, why don't we share our sources? Contact me at [Email address deleted by Admin]EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending removal of email addresses in the text. To avoid delays in future reports, please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please use the Forum's Private Messaging system to communicate directly with other Forum Members. Thanks!
Endowed,Of course, I can?t answer for them, but I?ll give my best guess, starting with a general view of the alien sex monger and the sex-for-pay establishments in Nippon. With a regular fuzoku (seikans, imekuras, etc.) there are the obvious concerns of language, knowing what to expect, getting a girl that will accept gaijin, fears of uncleanliness / disease in non-Japanese, and general fear of the unknown, that make it easy to turn away the foreign monger. From the management?s point of view it?s probably too much bother or too risky to justify the limited income that a single or a few gaijin bring in. Then there?s an extra hurdle with these parties. These are ostensibly circles or clubs, and the management has to find players that won?t upset other players?an important consideration for Japanese. (See my earlier post for possibilities on how foreigners might upset, or make J-men feel uncomfortable at these parties.) Again, why risk alienating your main customer base (J-men) for one or a few unknown foreigners? From this point of view, it?s not hard to see why saying no to foreigners is so easy for them.Concerning the specific situation you mentioned, again I couldn?t answer for them, but it seems they might have one more reason to find it too troublesome (another communication barrier) and even easier to decline. Having said that, I don't think it's hopeless--I think the best option for clearing this would be if he found someone (preferably a regular Japanese who?s attended the party before) to explain the situation to the management, get okayed, and take him to the party and kind of be his sponsor. Once in, I don?t think there would be a problem. A foreigner can build some trust, alleviate some of the fears and turn his ?foreigness? into an advantage. Even at these parties, for example, Japanese like to try out their English with a foreigner and I happily oblige them. Show them that you?re respectful, can get along with the others, are not a problem, etc., and you can come back without worry. As I mentioned in my last post, I make sure to chat and joke with the J-men. I?ve even developed a sense of camaraderie with some that I find hard to achieve in more regular situations. Hope this helps.Note to all: a couple of other regular WSG members who don?t feel confident in their Japanese have expressed an interest in attending the club I?ve attended. If you?re in the same boat and want to join me the next time I go, please contact me via PM. Also, anyone else out there who?s tried these parties? Would love to read other experiences here!
Wine Guy 247
02-09-04, 03:19
Mister H, Fredo,Thanks for the postings on the orgy parties, a great contribution to the board. You might want to mention to your hosts that there is interest from foreign men with limited Japanese ability. I expect if they logged on the board here and sent out an invitation they would get a very good response. They could set up gaijin only parties so Japanese men are not offended. I would think it is easy to fill at least one party per week. Just a thought.A simple question I am hoping someone can help with. Anyone know any good love hotels in Ginza? Girls (non-pro) seem to like to meet for dinner in Ginza and when things go well, I can never find anywhere nearby to take them. Any suggestions?MJ
Fishmonger
02-09-04, 08:45
Nice reports on the orgies ... sounds pretty wild, and seems like a great deal. Are the girls really not pros? The thought that the girls are there for the sex as much as the guys are makes this way more exciting than any typical "pay-for-play" type deal. Did you get any contact info to keep in touch with the girls and organize your own little parties for free? I might have to check these parties out!
While I haven't personally attended any of these orgies, I've have little trouble engaging the services of pros, semi-pros or freebies of many japanese varieties. So, I think it would be fairly safe to say that a gaijiin gangbang could be organised in favor of those japanese women who wish to enjoy the formidible 'foreign devil'. I have several freebies who are mid 30's, OL types, minimal english that i met either from AFF, nampa or esute. I will ask a couple and see if they'd like to join a party. In addition, I've met several j-women at various strip clubs who were into 3p and 4p with cool guys.In any case, I'd also be game to try the j-orgies, too. Variety is the spice of a monger!
Tokyo Moose
02-09-04, 14:31
Here is another party group.I seem to be on their mailing list.They also have AV stars.The numbers look pretty good.If you get on their mailing list and you might get an email before the party starts and there might be only 2 guys but 4 girls.Gentlemen, This may come as a surprise to some of you, and please don't take this the wrong way, but you can not use my forum to promote a competing forum. If you have info, then post it here. Thanks, Jackson
After the previous suggestion here, I thought I'd try Shibuya Bus Stop. What the hell, I've already been turned away by every IMEKURA I've ever tried, so I'm used to rejection.Sure enough, I got there (you can work out the location of the shop if you get to the area, thanks to the kanji "hint") and they said "Japanese only". As per usual, instead of just walking out of the store, I explained that I can speak Japanese and asked if there was a special reason, and after some consideration they let me in. They basically explained the same kind of thing that the orgy reports have been saying.Communication is a big part of the relationship in these places, and the foreign element can be scary - especially when the staff in question are all quite young.Anyway, I paid my 15,000 - 50 min course, and I think they threw in the membership for free after I mentioned I came because of their website. The system works like this: you spend 20 minutes inside a mocked-up bus, with a bunch of girls stood and sat around with blindfolds on. You can caress these girls, but you cannot kiss, lick or put fingers inside. Have fun in there for a while, avoid the other guys in there, and remember the name of the girl you want to go for mains with. Then you leave the bus, and if you picked a girl, you pay 2000 extra for the privilege, otherwise it's lucky dip. Then you take a shower on your own and go to the room you've been allotted where the girl should be waiting for you. You can get BBBJ and Sumata in your remaining time (only one shot though, it seems), and some girls will let you do CIM without paying the extra too - well, mine did. After you've done what you need to do, another shower and then chit chat until time's up.I really must stress that language is important here because it makes the girl feel a lot more relaxed. The girl I was with was a 22 year old student who graduates in 2 months. She was cute as hell, too! But after this experience, I'm so glad I had the nerves to try it. 17,000 may have been a bit pricey for a BBBJ in retrospect, but it was genuinely something I've been wanting to try for a while, so there is value in that aspect :)The website is here:http://www.shibuya-busstop.com/index2.htmIt has a map on it, so I won't give out directions here. If you can't work out the building it is in, give them a quick call.
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