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This one is NOT gaijin friendly. The MXY group has a Shinbashi branch close to the old Supergirls location.
http://mxy.jp/sp/tokyo/shinbashi/index.html
This one is gaijin friendly if you speak conversational Japanese. The girls are a little bit older at this branch. I forgot the name if the one I had, but she was a friendly girl next door type. Definitely not full service, but you can get Sumata if you like.Actually, every shop in the MXY group is good for foreigners if you speak conversational Japanese.
You can find each branch from the URL. I've been to these ones:
Ebisu. Older, weirder girls, but they basically do anything you like. The shower is in the room which saves time.
Shinjuku. Younger, more tomboyish girls. Just ok service.
Shibuya. Young, pretty girls, mechanical service.
Shinbashi. Older (younger than Ebisu) , less pretty, sweeter girls, good service.
Actually, every shop in the MXY group is good for foreigners if you speak conversational Japanese.
You can find each branch from the URL. I've been to these ones:
Ebisu. Older, weirder girls, but they basically do anything you like. The shower is in the room which saves time.
Shinjuku. Younger, more tomboyish girls. Just ok service.
Shibuya. Young, pretty girls, mechanical service.
Shinbashi. Older (younger than Ebisu) , less pretty, sweeter girls, good service.Has anyone been to the Ikebukuro one? I've been greeted politely by the staff when going about other business. I"ve been meaning to go back sometime.
It seems like you've been really lucky that time Cheap. After seeing your report, I looked for their website and as you said: "Lots of hot girls on the site". Almost too good to be true. I wanted to give it a try as Matsudo is convenient for me but did some more research before and found out on japanese reports that it is a known scam as none of the photos are real and you more than often end up with an old an ugly lady. A japanese guy even describe the girl he got as a monster oba-chan.Yes, I know about the "monster oba-chan" experience. This is how it works. They get you to call with their low advertised rates. If you look carefully under "event", you will see this is the "free option." This will be something like 9000 yen for 50 minutes. If you go with the "free option", which means you don't pick the girl, they will tack on some other be. S. Like Nyukaikin, etc. And send the monster with the driver to you. The monster will hide behind a corner or something and the driver will demand the money from you. Then she comes out once you've forked it over.
If you want the girls on the site (keep in mind I only went once, and am relating my experience with Kotone. So that's all the info I have) , you will have to click on "system" and pay the regular fee. This is something like 16k yen for 60 min. Hope that helps.
Yeah, I reviewed this girl in an earlier post. The tencho is really a super nice guy.
Quite frankly, chubby girls are a turn-off for me too, and I don't know if you can find a slender girl at this shop. The price is pretty much unbeatable for Japanese DH though.
I decided to try out Thank Kinshicho. I called them and asked if gaigokujin was ok, they said no problem.
The tenchou was extremely polite and friendly. I told him I would call back.
I took the train to Kinshicho station, went out south exit, and called them again. I asked if Uruha-chan was available right now. She was available and the tenchou started directing me to the rental room. Since my Japanese is quite limited it was very tough. It took me 15 minutes to find the rental room, and I was on the phone the whole time. If I could tip the tenchou, I would. I can't believe how he could put up with me for so long time and still be very polite and nice. After a while he started to give me some directions in English and I found the rental room.
I paid for 60 minutes room, she showed up 15 minutes later. She was not really what I expected. Her picture is very photoshopped to look more slim. She was only 144 cm tall, and very chubby. I would say she looked like the daughter of the Michelin guy. Chubby but compact. She gave a very good blowjob and was very good with handjob as well. When I was close to cum I told her to stop and I started fingering her. I managed to make her cum just by fingering her. After that I took out a condom and opened it, I think she said something like sex is not allowed or included, so I just out away the condom without arguing. When I did that she said it was ok for this time and she let me have sex with her. I managed to make her cum again.
Her body was very chubby, but she provided an excellent service and was very nice and cuddly. For the money I paid, she was worth it, but I would not book her again and if I knew how she looked before I booked her, I would have chosen some one else.
Total damage was 9800 for 60 minutes. Rental room was 2000. I will probably order services from Thank again. I highly recommend their tenchou.
If you are trying out Thank, research the girl. The tall girls seems more slim. You should have a Japanese phone and be able to take directions in Japanese.
It seems like you've been really lucky that time Cheap. After seeing your report, I looked for their website and as you said: "Lots of hot girls on the site". Almost too good to be true. I wanted to give it a try as Matsudo is convenient for me but did some more research before and found out on japanese reports that it is a known scam as none of the photos are real and you more than often end up with an old an ugly lady. A japanese guy even describe the girl he got as a monster oba-chan.If Matsudo is convenient, maybe look into cuty honey (www.cutyhoney.net) in Shin-matsudo. The girls in the photos are real, and you can get a room for 2000 yen. There's also a regular love hotel that you can see from the station called "Excelene" that advertises from 2500 yen. The only downside to this place is they charge 4000 yen for every increment of 10 minutes. 40 min for 9000 yen is still good for young hot Japanese girls though.
Lurkingdog
10-27-12, 10:49
TOFTT this afternoon. I recalled reading good things about Kanda massage but had left all of my notes back at the room. Nonetheless, I decided to stop by as I was in the mood for a massage and finish. I picked Aroma Refresh. 7F of the building right across the street from the JR station. Took the 60 minute menu with oil and had a little trouble understanding what was being said but thought I understood. I was taken back by a nice looking woman with wonderfully formed breasts in a low cut top. I was shown into my room and then was told to take a shower (first hint that I wasn't in the right place). After my self-shower, they had little disposable paper underwear to put on. I didn't bother but when she returned to start and saw that I didn't have anything on, she went and got me a pair. The oil massage was okay. Not great and then on the flip. Nothing. I did get a membership card and 2, 000 Yen off my next massage but I was sort of expecting more. I'll have to go back in the forum and study up some more.
LD
Evan Stoner
10-27-12, 13:56
TOFTT this afternoon. I recalled reading good things about Kanda massage but had left all of my notes back at the room. Nonetheless, I decided to stop by as I was in the mood for a massage and finish. I picked Aroma Refresh. 7F of the building right across the street from the JR station. Took the 60 minute menu with oil and had a little trouble understanding what was being said but thought I understood. I was taken back by a nice looking woman with wonderfully formed breasts in a low cut top. I was shown into my room and then was told to take a shower (first hint that I wasn't in the right place). After my self-shower, they had little disposable paper underwear to put on. I didn't bother but when she returned to start and saw that I didn't have anything on, she went and got me a pair. The oil massage was okay. Not great and then on the flip. Nothing. I did get a membership card and 2, 000 Yen off my next massage but I was sort of expecting more. I'll have to go back in the forum and study up some more.Unfortunately you chose the exact wrong place for your first try. Aroma Refresh (http://www.aromarefresh.net/) is actually on the 9F of that building, known as the "Ekimae" building in the Kanda massage sector. The shop girls are Japanese and it is strictly an aroma oil massage operation as far as I was able to tell. I've been 4 times mostly to check out the big titted girls but there was never a happy ending. I paid 11.6k for 90 minutes, which includes the self-shower and tea afterwards so the actual massage time is closer to 60 minutes. I also paid 3k for the bikini option a couple times where the girl will wear a bikini. There is no touching allowed. I won't be going back. Unless you are into paying relatively expensive prices for an admittedly nice atmosphere with generally cute J girls and a decent (lightweight) massage but no release I can't recommend it.
ES
Lurkingdog
10-28-12, 01:01
Stoner. You are absolutely correct. The girls did have nice tits. And about everything else, too. I will have to go try the fertile crescent building that you mentioned. Where is it in relationship to the building that I ended up in?
Ld
I went to Shimbashi after work this week and I confirm what's been told by Ben Linus. Shimbashi Jogakuen is not gaijin friendly, as is the sister shop called Tiara. And Supergirls is gone. So it looks like there's no pink salon open to gaijin in this area.
I will investigate the Otsuka area where there's a lot of pink salon although it is a bit far for me to go after work. Already found some nice place but I have to check if they are open to gaijin.
If Matsudo is convenient, maybe look into cuty honey (
www.cutyhoney.net
) in Shin-matsudo. The girls in the photos are real, and you can get a room for 2000 yen. There's also a regular love hotel that you can see from the station called "Excelene" that advertises from 2500 yen. The only downside to this place is they charge 4000 yen for every increment of 10 minutes. 40 min for 9000 yen is still good for young hot Japanese girls though.After reading your original post, I focused on Cleopatra and kind of forgot the others shops you mentioned. So thanks for pointing this one out to me. Checked the website and it looks promising. I will definitely give it a try.
Evan Stoner
10-28-12, 07:42
Stoner. You are absolutely correct. The girls did have nice tits. And about everything else, too. I will have to go try the fertile crescent building that you mentioned. Where is it in relationship to the building that I ended up in?The Crescent Building is about a 5 minute walk from the Ekimae Building: walk north, passing underneath the JR train tracks and passing a Starbucks on the way. Same side of the street, with a Chinese restaurant on 1F. I tried to find it on Google Maps, and it should be in the exact center here although I wasn't able to drop a pin: http://goo.gl/maps/4bQ5b. My current preferred are Flower Venus on 7F and Koi no Baraado ("Love Ballad") on 9F. Girls on 5F also seems popular lately and some seem to swear by Momoka on 3F. Keep in mind these are HJ finish as a rule YMMV. Good luck.
ES
Lurkingdog
10-28-12, 11:21
I decided after reading the board to try New York New York. I had a somewhat difficult time finding it from the map as I couldn't get a good one in English but finally found it after wandering around the Ueno area for awhile. I came in and was greeted by a large man in a suit and an older lady took my 10, 000 yen note and gave me 5, 200 yen back. I was puzzled but went along with it. I was in the waiting room for a little while (I had in my mind chosen "Hana" from the website, which claimed she was working but when I inquired, I was told she was on "Yasumi" (vacation?) so I am not placing a lot of stock on the scheduled pictures on the web). I was greeted by June Ko. A very nice, pleasant looking Japanese woman, probably in her late 20s. Her picture is NOT on the web and she told me that she was not married. We got into the small room and she drew me a bath in the tall square golden tub. We both got undressed and she gave me a shower and soaped me all over taking good care of the boys and the butt. Then she had me get into the tub and I soaked for a little while, got out, and went to the bed where I laid on my back. As a result, I guess there was no massage as she went right into a BBBJ which was okay and I had full exploration rights to her body. I played with her pussy and finger her until she was quite wet. Then we went into 69 which we did for a while, then I put her on her back and did DATY trying to make her cum. She got very wet and squirmed a bit but I don't think she got there. Then she put me back on my back, did some anal rimming, and then finished me off in her mouth. It was pretty satisfying. Then we repeated the shower and tub before getting dressed. She did have me gargle with some diluted iodine looking stuff and she did the same before and after. And after she was done, she collected 5, 000 Yen from me. So that's where the 9, 800 price tag comes in. All in all it was a very pleasant 50 minutes and I'll probably return.
LD
Lurkingdog
10-28-12, 11:23
The Crescent Building is about a 5 minute walk from the Ekimae Building: walk north, passing underneath the JR train tracks and passing a Starbucks on the way. Same side of the street, with a Chinese restaurant on 1F. I tried to find it on Google Maps, and it should be in the exact center here although I wasn't able to drop a pin:
http://goo.gl/maps/4bQ5b
My current preferred are Flower Venus on 7F and Koi no Baraado ("Love Ballad") on 9F. Girls on 5F also seems popular lately and some seem to swear by Momoka on 3F. Keep in mind these are HJ finish as a rule YMMV. Good luck.
ESThanks Stoner. When I get some time, I'll go give one of these places a try and report back. What are the rates I should expect to pay at these establishments?
LD
Evan Stoner
10-28-12, 12:55
What are the rates I should expect to pay at these establishments?For Chinese places in Kanda 60 minutes is usually 7k til 6pm and 8k thereafter, and for 90 minutes usually 11k / 12k. To select a girl from a photo in person or on the internet ("shashin shimei") there is usually no charge, while selection of a girl you have tried at least once previously will cost an additional 1k ("hon-shimei"). This is the system for most of the places I have mentioned. YMMV and may depend on the shop, the time of day and the mood of the tencho at the time.
ES
I think it's here: http://goo.gl/maps/ilwPX
Are they all Chinese places in that building?
The Crescent Building is about a 5 minute walk from the Ekimae Building: walk north, passing underneath the JR train tracks and passing a Starbucks on the way. Same side of the street, with a Chinese restaurant on 1F. I tried to find it on Google Maps, and it should be in the exact center here although I wasn't able to drop a pin:
http://goo.gl/maps/4bQ5b
My current preferred are Flower Venus on 7F and Koi no Baraado ("Love Ballad") on 9F. Girls on 5F also seems popular lately and some seem to swear by Momoka on 3F. Keep in mind these are HJ finish as a rule YMMV. Good luck.
ES
Evan Stoner
10-28-12, 17:24
I think it's here:
http://goo.gl/maps/ilwPX
Are they all Chinese places in that building?That's the place. All the shops I mentioned are Chinese, plus most of the others on floors 2 through 9. I think there is one Thai-style place but I've never tried it. Note that even in some of the "Chinese" places they sometimes get in one or two Japanese or Korean staff which they will mention on the web site.
ES
Actually, every shop in the MXY group is good for foreigners if you speak conversational Japanese.
You can find each branch from the URL. I've been to these ones:
Ebisu. Older, weirder girls, but they basically do anything you like. The shower is in the room which saves time.
Shinjuku. Younger, more tomboyish girls. Just ok service.
Shibuya. Young, pretty girls, mechanical service.
Shinbashi. Older (younger than Ebisu) , less pretty, sweeter girls, good service.From the map, the Ebisu one looks like it is New York New York near the station, is that right? Or is this a different outfit?
In another, non english-speaking forum, this place was recommended:
http://www.gotanda-escort-erotic-massage.com/
The report says that for 28000 yens, the guy got BBFS form a japanee girl. Seems to be as good as AM. And open to non japanese speaking gaijins.
Well, seems too good to be true, but if one of the members based in Tokyo woulf TOFFT, that would be nice. If not, I may try when I visit enxt, but that is some months away.Tried it, massively overpriced handjob. Would steer clear if I were you.
Anyone seen someone worth mentioning at Grimpeur / 5A recently?
Hey everyone, got some questions about pink salons and image clubs.
First of all, I went today to the "Cuties" pink salon in Meguro, which was mentioned in this topic. It is NOT gaijin-friendly, as it seems. My Japanese conversational is little bit limited, but from the explanation on the phone they told me that they don't acceps gaijin. As pretty much most of the pink salons where I called and even came to the door. Many of them have "no entry for foreigners" sign at the door. Even they see I am clean, good dressed and speak conversational Japanese, they decline.
So, can anyone please list some salons that are 100% gaijin friendly and are CHEAP? Around 3-4k. And please tell about your experience there, just a few words about the service quality, impressions. What is included in the service, does it include kissing, touching and BBBJ (these are my priority).
Also question about shops with cosplay. I love schoolgirl uniform and french maid dress on asian girls, so looking for a place where they offer FS with a cosplay option. Do you know any places? Cheaper-better.
BTW, searching the forum found this one: http://cutyhoney.net/index2.html "Cuty Honey". Good prices, but not sure what is included. Please confirm that they are gaijin-friendly and offer FS.
Thank you for your help.
From the map, the Ebisu one looks like it is New York New York near the station, is that right? Or is this a different outfit?That's the one.
Hey everyone, got some questions about pink salons and image clubs.
First of all, I went today to the "Cuties" pink salon in Meguro, which was mentioned in this topic. It is NOT gaijin-friendly, as it seems. My Japanese conversational is little bit limited, but from the explanation on the phone they told me that they don't acceps gaijin. As pretty much most of the pink salons where I called and even came to the door. Many of them have "no entry for foreigners" sign at the door. Even they see I am clean, good dressed and speak conversational Japanese, they decline.
So, can anyone please list some salons that are 100% gaijin friendly and are CHEAP? Around 3-4k. And please tell about your experience there, just a few words about the service quality, impressions. What is included in the service, does it include kissing, touching and BBBJ (these are my priority).
Also question about shops with cosplay. I love schoolgirl uniform and french maid dress on asian girls, so looking for a place where they offer FS with a cosplay option. Do you know any places? Cheaper-better.
BTW, searching the forum found this one:
http://cutyhoney.net/index2.html
"Cuty Honey". Good prices, but not sure what is included. Please confirm that they are gaijin-friendly and offer FS.
Thank you for your help.Much depends on the tencho on duty in my experience. My approach is to walk around the neighborhood where they are clustered and keep trying until one accepts me. Sugamo, Otsuka, Gotanda and Ikebukuro are my usual spots. I never go looking for particular places because I've been turned down before at places that welcomed me before.
I decided after reading the board to try New York New York. I had a somewhat difficult time finding it from the map as I couldn't get a good one in English but finally found it after wandering around the Ueno area for awhile. I came in and was greeted by a large man in a suit and an older lady took my 10, 000 yen note and gave me 5, 200 yen back. I was puzzled but went along with it. I was in the waiting room for a little while (I had in my mind chosen "Hana" from the website, which claimed she was working but when I inquired, I was told she was on "Yasumi" (vacation?) so I am not placing a lot of stock on the scheduled pictures on the web). I was greeted by June Ko. A very nice, pleasant looking Japanese woman, probably in her late 20s. Her picture is NOT on the web and she told me that she was not married. We got into the small room and she drew me a bath in the tall square golden tub. We both got undressed and she gave me a shower and soaped me all over taking good care of the boys and the butt. Then she had me get into the tub and I soaked for a little while, got out, and went to the bed where I laid on my back. As a result, I guess there was no massage as she went right into a BBBJ which was okay and I had full exploration rights to her body. I played with her pussy and finger her until she was quite wet. Then we went into 69 which we did for a while, then I put her on her back and did DATY trying to make her cum. She got very wet and squirmed a bit but I don't think she got there. Then she put me back on my back, did some anal rimming, and then finished me off in her mouth. It was pretty satisfying. Then we repeated the shower and tub before getting dressed. She did have me gargle with some diluted iodine looking stuff and she did the same before and after. And after she was done, she collected 5, 000 Yen from me. So that's where the 9, 800 price tag comes in. All in all it was a very pleasant 50 minutes and I'll probably return.
LDNYNY is a reliable gaijin friendly place which ususally delivers good standard service as described by LD. I also go at least once at each of my visit. The only caveat is the risk to end up with an elderly (50+) flat chested housewife, but this only happened once to me in moren than 10 visits. I lways use my broken japanese to politely ask for a "wakakute, kierina onanohito", and that ususally suffices to get me a reasonably yound and ecent looking woman. A very GVFM if what you need is an hour of hassle free relaxing release with real japanese woman. But not if you want FS with sexy young hot women.
Hey everyone, got some questions about pink salons and image clubs.
First of all, I went today to the "Cuties" pink salon in Meguro, which was mentioned in this topic. It is NOT gaijin-friendly, as it seems. My Japanese conversational is little bit limited, but from the explanation on the phone they told me that they don't acceps gaijin. As pretty much most of the pink salons where I called and even came to the door. Many of them have "no entry for foreigners" sign at the door. Even they see I am clean, good dressed and speak conversational Japanese, they decline.
So, can anyone please list some salons that are 100% gaijin friendly and are CHEAP? Around 3-4k. And please tell about your experience there, just a few words about the service quality, impressions. What is included in the service, does it include kissing, touching and BBBJ (these are my priority).
Also question about shops with cosplay. I love schoolgirl uniform and french maid dress on asian girls, so looking for a place where they offer FS with a cosplay option. Do you know any places? Cheaper-better.
BTW, searching the forum found this one:
http://cutyhoney.net/index2.html
"Cuty Honey". Good prices, but not sure what is included. Please confirm that they are gaijin-friendly and offer FS.
Thank you for your help.With regards to pink salons, please take the time to read the forum, and search places like "hinomaru","Jan Jan", and you will find all the answers.
BTW, searching the forum found this one:
http://cutyhoney.net/index2.html
"Cuty Honey". Good prices, but not sure what is included. Please confirm that they are gaijin-friendly and offer FS.
Thank you for your help.Cuty-honey does not offer FS.
Really Now
10-29-12, 15:27
http://www.deli-paiza.com/girls/
Some of the gals' pics and movies at http://www.deli-paiza.com/girls/ will look awfully familiar to you mongers who shop the Ageha Sugamo line up. I have yet to use Paiza, but I'm tempted. Priced the same as Ageha Sugamo as well. Place is advertised on the Erolin Guide site.
Ralph Kramden
10-30-12, 13:38
Good find RN. The girls on this site appear to me to be the Ageha girls who will take foreigners. Be careful though because it is really slicked up. Add at least 5 years to the ages.
http://mxy.jp/spcommons/ranking/ranking.php?tenpoKeyNm=shinbashi
Went here for 'lunch' today and had Kozue-chan for the third time. All the MXY shops are strictly BJ only, but before she got started she offered me FS for Y20, 000, which she never did before. I had only got the 30 minute course, so that seemed steep. I got her down to Y10, 000. We didn't have a lot if time, so she put the condom on pretty quickly. I fucked her missionary and doggy as hard as I could and made it right before the timer went off. She took it like a trooper.
PluckyPorn
11-02-12, 11:17
http://mxy.jp/spcommons/ranking/ranking.php?tenpoKeyNm=shinbashi
Went here for 'lunch' today and had Kozue-chan for the third time. All the MXY shops are strictly BJ only, but before she got started she offered me FS for Y20, 000, which she never did before. I had only got the 30 minute course, so that seemed steep. I got her down to Y10, 000. We didn't have a lot if time, so she put the condom on pretty quickly. I fucked her missionary and doggy as hard as I could and made it right before the timer went off. She took it like a trooper.How accurate are their pictures on the site?
Lurkingdog
11-02-12, 12:16
http://mxy.jp/spcommons/ranking/ranking.php?tenpoKeyNm=shinbashi
Went here for 'lunch' today and had Kozue-chan for the third time. All the MXY shops are strictly BJ only, but before she got started she offered me FS for Y20, 000, which she never did before. I had only got the 30 minute course, so that seemed steep. I got her down to Y10, 000. We didn't have a lot if time, so she put the condom on pretty quickly. I fucked her missionary and doggy as hard as I could and made it right before the timer went off. She took it like a trooper.Hey Ben. Great report. Is this place Gaijin-friendly and is it all on-site or do you need to get a love hotel to partake of the offerings? Thanks for any info you can share.
LD
Hey Ben. Great report. Is this place Gaijin-friendly and is it all on-site or do you need to get a love hotel to partake of the offerings? Thanks for any info you can share.
LDThanks. See the website. The MXY group is all fashion health which means the girls, rooms, showers are all on sight. It's generally gaijin friendly if the staff feel you can communicate and follow the rules. Which means no FS. Heh.
This location is in Shinbashi. Get out on the SL Square side. Facing the steam engine, cross the street and take the street on the left going straight from the station and then take the second right into an alley. It's on the third floor of the second building on the right.
Naked Gaijin
11-02-12, 14:34
Thanks. See the website. The MXY group is all fashion health which means the girls, rooms, showers are all on sight. It's generally gaijin friendly if the staff feel you can communicate and follow the rules. Which means no FS. Heh.
This location is in Shinbashi. Get out on the SL Square side. Facing the steam engine, cross the street and take the street on the left going straight from the station and then take the second right into an alley. It's on the third floor of the second building on the right.Went to the Shinbashi branch yesterday about 5:00 and the tencho told me "Sorry, Japanese only". I was surprised since I had been there just two weeks ago with no problem (incidentally, also had Kozue). I asked the tencho "itsu" (when)? And he responded "mae kara" (from before). It was quite strange, so I just gave a surprised look and left. Don't know if I'll go back again. Not real happy with random rejection.
Went to the Shinbashi branch yesterday about 5:00 and the tencho told me "Sorry, Japanese only". I was surprised since I had been there just two weeks ago with no problem (incidentally, also had Kozue). I asked the tencho "itsu" (when)? And he responded "mae kara" (from before). It was quite strange, so I just gave a surprised look and left. Don't know if I'll go back again. Not real happy with random rejection.I am surprised at that as I have been to that branch at least 4 times. They usually always ask if I had been there before and who I had been with. Answering those questions is usually enough for them. Hopefully Kozue-chan's little side business didn't cause problems.
Went to the Shinbashi branch yesterday about 5:00 and the tencho told me "Sorry, Japanese only". I was surprised since I had been there just two weeks ago with no problem (incidentally, also had Kozue). I asked the tencho "itsu" (when)? And he responded "mae kara" (from before). It was quite strange, so I just gave a surprised look and left. Don't know if I'll go back again. Not real happy with random rejection.I have had the same response three times. I think it really depends on the tencho. I don't even try there anymore.
Lurkingdog
11-03-12, 08:14
Had some free time over the lunch hour and so found the Fertile Crescent building that Stoner so helpfully outlined. I decided upon the Flower Venus establishment on 7F. The Tencho was very nice. I took the 60 min 7, 000 offer, had a very brief wait and then was escorted down to one of the rooms. No table, just a padded mat on the floor with some towels. I undressed and after about 5 minutes,"Mai" came in. She was cute, slender woman whom I originally thought was Korean but later, in conversation I discovered I misunderstood and she was really Chinese. Got up to the shower, it was self-service again (how disappointing) and then back to the room. She brought some cold tea (nice touch) and then started. I didn't have to wear any funny disposable shorts but she covered my back up with towels and massaged the back. Then moved to both legs. Also covered with towels. It was actually a pretty average to below average massage as far as technique goes. Then she got up, left briefly and I could hear her washing her hands, then she came back and started the soft light touch technique. At this she was quite good. I could feel myself getting aroused and she sort of nudged me to flip. When I did, she applied the oil and started on the happy ending. She was in no rush at all, sort of laid down next to me on the mattress and snuggled as she did the deed. She stayed fully clothed and while she didn't mind my hands roaming a bit, I couldn't not go under the clothes. She was in no hurry to finish the deed and when it finally happened, it was a great release. Afterwards, there was some other monger taking a really long shower and then another lady as well so we had a chance to talk a little. My Japanese is still not that good but we were able to converse using Japanese, Chinese and English and I found out a bit about her. Then it was time to leave. From her, I understand that the 90 minute 11, 000 yen option allows for her to bathe you (but she doesn't get in with you) and that the massage is oil. So, more satisfying than my last trip to Kanda but I don't know if I'll return. I might try some of the others in that same building if the service provided is any different than what I just described.
LD
Lost For Words
11-03-12, 09:07
Had some free time over the lunch hour and so found the Fertile Crescent building that Stoner so helpfully outlined. I decided upon the Flower Venus establishment on 7F. The Tencho was very nice. I took the 60 min 7, 000 offer, had a very brief wait and then was escorted down to one of the rooms. No table, just a padded mat on the floor with some towels. I undressed and after about 5 minutes,"Mai" came in. She was cute, slender woman whom I originally thought was Korean but later, in conversation I discovered I misunderstood and she was really Chinese. Got up to the shower, it was self-service again (how disappointing) and then back to the room. She brought some cold tea (nice touch) and then started. I didn't have to wear any funny disposable shorts but she covered my back up with towels and massaged the back. Then moved to both legs. Also covered with towels. It was actually a pretty average to below average massage as far as technique goes. Then she got up, left briefly and I could hear her washing her hands, then she came back and started the soft light touch technique. At this she was quite good. I could feel myself getting aroused and she sort of nudged me to flip. When I did, she applied the oil and started on the happy ending. She was in no rush at all, sort of laid down next to me on the mattress and snuggled as she did the deed. She stayed fully clothed and while she didn't mind my hands roaming a bit, I couldn't not go under the clothes. She was in no hurry to finish the deed and when it finally happened, it was a great release. Afterwards, there was some other monger taking a really long shower and then another lady as well so we had a chance to talk a little. My Japanese is still not that good but we were able to converse using Japanese, Chinese and English and I found out a bit about her. Then it was time to leave. From her, I understand that the 90 minute 11, 000 yen option allows for her to bathe you (but she doesn't get in with you) and that the massage is oil. So, more satisfying than my last trip to Kanda but I don't know if I'll return. I might try some of the others in that same building if the service provided is any different than what I just described.
LDIf you're interested in having the girl wash you for the shower, they do that at my current favorite place in Kanda. Mugen. The prices on their site say 60min for 6000, but you also have to pay the room fee which is 2000. So 60min is actually 8000 but it's the best deal in Kanda I think, by far. The service there is great and depending on the girl you can just explain what you want and she'll be very open to skipping the massage. I usually do 30min massage and 30min of play and my favorite girl there is Minami. Rin and Ai are also extremely popular there as well, as I assume their service is quite good. They do let your hands roam a bit more than other places in Kanda, as far as my experience is concerned and the girls are all relatively cute. Chinese though, so if you're looking for Korean or Japanese this is not your place. Anyway, it's.
http://www.highrank-esthe.com/home.php
And it's around here:
http://goo.gl/maps/LxAuu
I think next to the Mikamo building. 3F. There's a sign outside for another massage place so it's not hard to find.
Lurkingdog
11-03-12, 13:26
If you're interested in having the girl wash you for the shower, they do that at my current favorite place in Kanda. Mugen. The prices on their site say 60min for 6000, but you also have to pay the room fee which is 2000. So 60min is actually 8000 but it's the best deal in Kanda I think, by far. The service there is great and depending on the girl you can just explain what you want and she'll be very open to skipping the massage. I usually do 30min massage and 30min of play and my favorite girl there is Minami. Rin and Ai are also extremely popular there as well, as I assume their service is quite good. They do let your hands roam a bit more than other places in Kanda, as far as my experience is concerned and the girls are all relatively cute. Chinese though, so if you're looking for Korean or Japanese this is not your place. Anyway, it's.
http://www.highrank-esthe.com/home.php
And it's around here:
http://goo.gl/maps/LxAuu
I think next to the Mikamo building. 3F. There's a sign outside for another massage place so it's not hard to find.Hey Lost. Thanks for the tip. I assume that Mugen is strictly HE or were you implying YMMV with higher mileage when you wrote of 30 minutes of play. I actually appreciate a good massage and that's what made this afternoon's visit a little disappointing. No complaint with the HR, though!
LD
Lost For Words
11-03-12, 15:42
Hey Lost. Thanks for the tip. I assume that Mugen is strictly HE or were you implying YMMV with higher mileage when you wrote of 30 minutes of play. I actually appreciate a good massage and that's what made this afternoon's visit a little disappointing. No complaint with the HR, though!
LDIn general it's HE, but I believe that that Rin and and Ai are popular for a reason. In that they'll give you a bit more service if you're a repeat or pay a bit more to them directly. I haven't had that experience myself, though, and with Minami it's always been HE. But I've definitely let my hands roam all over under her clothes every time I go. But that being said, I don't think FS is generally on the table with any of the girls at Mugen.
There is detailed information available on Japanese blogs and other sites about which individual providers at a particular shop go "ns" ("no skin" = bareback) , and lists of shops grouped by the percentage of providers who do / don't require a condom.I was searching the forum and came across this. I may be mistaken, but it has been my understanding that
'NS' = 'nama soto' (bareback, finish outside)
As opposed to.
'NN' = 'nama naka' (bareback, finish inside)
If nama is an option which you decide to take, it's your choice. But I think misinterpreting what 'NS' and 'NN' means could land you in some pretty hot water
I was searching the forum and came across this. I may be mistaken, but it has been my understanding that
'NS' = 'nama soto' (bareback, finish outside)
As opposed to.
'NN' = 'nama naka' (bareback, finish inside)
If nama is an option which you decide to take, it's your choice. But I think misinterpreting what 'NS' and 'NN' means could land you in some pretty hot waterNS = No Skin, or no condom.
As you said, NN = Nama Nakadashi (finish inside)
I was searching the forum and came across this. I may be mistaken, but it has been my understanding that
'NS' = 'nama soto' (bareback, finish outside)
As opposed to.
'NN' = 'nama naka' (bareback, finish inside)
If nama is an option which you decide to take, it's your choice. But I think misinterpreting what 'NS' and 'NN' means could land you in some pretty hot waterIn the Japanese discussion of fuzoku, ns means "no skin" = bareback, and nn means nama naka-dashi = bareback, come inside. There is no ns = nama soto terminology in general usage in Japanese, though you may find an example of it somewhere if you look hard enough. Just search for fuzoku and ns, or better yet "fuzoku to ha" and you'll be inundated with explanations. (I tried to put Japanese characters in this message, but they wouldn't display correctly, sorry. If anyone knows how to display kanji etc, please let me know.)
There are so many options in Japanese fuzoku, some free, some for additional charges, that it's always a good idea to clear up just where you intend to shoot ahead of time. And there are some providers who may be cool with CIM, but nothing on their face or skin in general. It always seems that YMMV.
Actually, every shop in the MXY group is good for foreigners if you speak conversational Japanese.Not true by my experience. Years ago I used to frequent their Shibuya shop and was always welcome. But at the same time I was refused entry to their Shinjuku, Ikebukuro and the second Shibuya shop (which is no more).
Though I only tried once in every place, in my mind no need to waste your time trying as there is plenty of providers in this city.
Not true by my experience. Years ago I used to frequent their Shibuya shop and was always welcome. But at the same time I was refused entry to their Shinjuku, Ikebukuro and the second Shibuya shop (which is no more).
Though I only tried once in every place, in my mind no need to waste your time trying as there is plenty of providers in this city.I guess YMMV. I can only speak for myself, but I haven't had issues in their shops.
I guess YMMV. I can only speak for myself, but I haven't had issues in their shops.I really think it depends on the tencho and what girls are working at that particular time. I've struck out multiple times in Shimbashi.
Lurkingdog
11-06-12, 15:29
I was out and about and happened to be in this area. There are a number of massage places a block or two east of this station and I decided to try one. There wasn't any English on the sign but it was a bluish sign with pictures of massage with oil so I went for it (on the 2F). The tencho was very nice and I took the 70 min for 6, 500 yen option. There were four massage stalls all with beds and separated by curtains. I was given some disposable shorts to wear and got undressed. Long story short. It was a GREAT massage but no release. After having a couple of mediocre massages, this one was really nice. A release on top would have been wonderful but I doubt that this place provides that. Does anyone know if there are any places in this area that might provide the release? Any information would be appreciated.
LD
Does anyone know if there are any places in this area that might provide the release? Any information would be appreciated.
LDIf you go back about 20-some pages to the July timeframe, there was discussion of a place called Himawari where you can get that plus more.
Lurkingdog
11-07-12, 11:15
Meiji. Thanks for the reminder. I went back and found the posts to which you referred. I'll report after I partake.
LD
Lurkingdog
11-09-12, 15:03
So this evening, I had a little spare time and I decided to find this place. The website wouldn't load on my computer and so I ended up walking around Otachimachi for sometime looking for the place. I finally found it. It's on the 4F right above Tomato (and something else on 2F). The mama-san was very nice and I chose the 50 min 10, 000 yen option. I got Yuka, a nice enthusiastic young Korean woman who I think must have been pretty new. The reason I say this is that while her enthusiasm was admirable, her technique was somewhat lacking in all areas. The table shower was nothing spectacular, the massage was below average, and the covered full service was served up with little teasing or preparation. I am not very big and yet I had a difficult time getting all the way in. She wasn't very wet and I was afraid I was hurting her and that took some from the experience as well. She started with CG and then we went to Mish and I finally unloaded in the condom in that position. She quasi-scolded me for taking so long but then later she said that everything was "very good". She took me back into the shower after the deed was done, hosed down the vital areas and then brought me back to the room when she continued the below average massage until my time was done. All in all, an enjoyable experience but it didn't rock my world.
LD
So this evening, I had a little spare time and I decided to find this place. The website wouldn't load on my computer and so I ended up walking around Otachimachi for sometime looking for the place. I finally found it. It's on the 4F right above Tomato (and something else on 2F). The mama-san was very nice and I chose the 50 min 10, 000 yen option. I got Yuka, a nice enthusiastic young Korean woman who I think must have been pretty new. The reason I say this is that while her enthusiasm was admirable, her technique was somewhat lacking in all areas. The table shower was nothing spectacular, the massage was below average, and the covered full service was served up with little teasing or preparation. I am not very big and yet I had a difficult time getting all the way in. She wasn't very wet and I was afraid I was hurting her and that took some from the experience as well. She started with CG and then we went to Mish and I finally unloaded in the condom in that position. She quasi-scolded me for taking so long but then later she said that everything was "very good". She took me back into the shower after the deed was done, hosed down the vital areas and then brought me back to the room when she continued the below average massage until my time was done. All in all, an enjoyable experience but it didn't rock my world.
LDEven with average performance, one man en for FS in Tokyo is quite good,
Lurkingdog
11-10-12, 01:51
Even with average performance, one man en for FS in Tokyo is quite good,Dreams. Thanks for the perspective. Still chasing that elusive wonderful experience that won't break the bank. Do you know if Tomato (or that place on the 2F) offers similar services to Himawari?
LD
Dreams. Thanks for the perspective. Still chasing that elusive wonderful experience that won't break the bank. Do you know if Tomato (or that place on the 2F) offers similar services to Himawari?
LDI haven't been there and haven't read any reports, but from the website it appears that it is standard Korean style steam massage or akasuri (skin scrub) with the girl naked for a HJ finish.
Lurkingdog
11-10-12, 08:59
Lost for Words. Or anyone else who can help. I spent all afternoon walking around the Kanda area trying to find Mugen. I found quite a number of massage places but was really looking for this particular establishment. The google maps link that Lost provided seemed simple enough when I opened it but I still couldn't find it and I didn't see an address on the website, either. From the map, it does NOT seem to be in a main commercial area, is that correct?
Thanks for any help you can provide.
LD
Lost for Words. Or anyone else who can help. I spent all afternoon walking around the Kanda area trying to find Mugen. I found quite a number of massage places but was really looking for this particular establishment. The google maps link that Lost provided seemed simple enough when I opened it but I still couldn't find it and I didn't see an address on the website, either. From the map, it does NOT seem to be in a main commercial area, is that correct?
Thanks for any help you can provide.
LDTry this google map with the shop at the "A" pinpoint:
http://goo.gl/maps/YWd0C
The address is 2-10-9 Kajicho, and there is a sign for a different shop out front. Open street view on the map and you can see what the first floor looks like.
Lurkingdog
11-10-12, 13:20
Try this google map with the shop at the "A" pinpoint:
http://goo.gl/maps/YWd0C
The address is 2-10-9 Kajicho, and there is a sign for a different shop out front. Open street view on the map and you can see what the first floor looks like.Muku1. Thanks a lot for this information. I'll give it another go.
LD
Lurkingdog
11-11-12, 04:00
Went back to Happy Hinomaru last evening and asked for Moe #35, who had been my service provider the last two times. One of you other mongers must have read my previous posts as I had a 45 minute wait to get to see her! It was worth it, though, as she remembered me and provided wonderful service. This time I paid for 30 mins with the idea of 2 pops. We were ultimately unsuccessful but it wasn't for her lack of trying. She was great. A very satisfactory visit.
LD
Lurkingdog
11-12-12, 13:04
Thanks to Lost for words and to Muku1, (and everyone else who contributes) , you helped this directionally challenged person to achieve his goals. I finally found Mugen (although the "frequent monger" card that I was given had a different Katakana name on it). In retrospect, I actually walked by the building before but the Pirate Massage sign out front threw me for a loop. In any case, I was greeted by the tencho and was explained that the price was 6, 000 for the massage + 2, 000 (I assume for the room as explained in previous posts). They were running some sort of internet web discount for 1, 000 but my Japanese wasn't good enough to ask for that and so I just paid the 8, 000 requested. I got Hana, who I later found out was a Chinese woman, she was very nice. Well attended shower and the massage was actually quite good after I asked her to make it really hard and deep (which I like). I managed to converse with her in my bad Japanese, bad Chinese and her bad English but it made for a nice session. The HE was spirited, nothing too special about it, though. After the second shower, when we were back in the room I actually gave her a little back massage which she seemed to appreciate. On my way out, there was the tencho and an extremely attractive older Asian woman who asked if everything was okay. I would have loved to had my massage with her but I wonder if she is "management" rather than the hired help.
So that's my report. I was disappointed not to have any oil with the massage. Is that something extra to ask for or only with longer sessions? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
LD
Lost For Words
11-12-12, 14:29
So that's my report. I was disappointed not to have any oil with the massage. Is that something extra to ask for or only with longer sessions? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
LDI'm glad you finally made it to Mugen and had a good time. It's odd that they didn't give you an oil massage, though, as that's the default. Minami always asks me if I want a powder massage (baby powder) or oil massage. And I always get the same 1 hour massage that you did, so just ask for it and you shouldn't have a problem getting it. I've never had Hana before, but with the other girls that I have had there I can always let my hands wander quite a bit.
Lurkingdog
11-12-12, 14:36
I'm glad you finally made it to Mugen and had a good time. It's odd that they didn't give you an oil massage, though, as that's the default. Minami always asks me if I want a powder massage (baby powder) or oil massage. And I always get the same 1 hour massage that you did, so just ask for it and you shouldn't have a problem getting it. I've never had Hana before, but with the other girls that I have had there I can always let my hands wander quite a bit.Yes, all of the massage was done "through" a towel. And like I said, it was actually quite good but I would have preferred oil. Perhaps I didn't understand all of that when the tencho was explaining but it sounds like I could just ask the girl herself once the session starts. I didn't have any powder that I know of, either.
Thanks again,
LD
Evan Stoner
11-12-12, 18:04
I went by the Crescent Building in Kanda today, and all the Chinese massage floors are locked down I. E. The elevator won't stop at them. Phones don't answer and some of the websites are down. The only floor open was 4F which is a legitimate Thai massage operation. Since other Chinese MPs in the area seem to still be in operation I assume this was a Crescent-specific issue. Possibly LE intervention.
Stay safe out there.
ES
Really Now
11-13-12, 08:32
Been having fun with the mostly 35+ gals at Ageha. Thanks for all the reports BTW. Any of you who like the older MILFs tried this Delivery advertised in the Erolin Guide? Unless any mongers can post / PM in dissuading me, I'll TOFTT next time I make it into Tokyo which may not be till next year. This is for mongers who patronize places like Champs, NYNY, Ageha etc. Here's the site http://www.fueiho.net/ikebukuro/
Thanks in advance to any Board posts or PMs with experiences at KONCHAN-NO-MISE in Ikebukuro.
Been having fun with the mostly 35+ gals at Ageha. Thanks for all the reports BTW. Any of you who like the older MILFs tried this Delivery advertised in the Erolin Guide? Unless any mongers can post / PM in dissuading me, I'll TOFTT next time I make it into Tokyo which may not be till next year. This is for mongers who patronize places like Champs, NYNY, Ageha etc. Here's the site.
http://www.fueiho.net/ikebukuro/
Thanks in advance to any Board posts or PMs with experiences at KONCHAN-NO-MISE in Ikebukuro.Yeah, this provider has gotten good reviews before, though I've never tried it myself. If memory serves, Taipan68 and another guy had a good experience with Kijima-san at the Gotanda location, and one guy had a good experience at the Ikebukuro location. If you're looking for a hotel recommendation, I remember he stayed at the West One hotel. I would also recommend Casa Blanca (North Exit). Clean and competitive rates.
Naked Gaijin
11-13-12, 14:47
I went by the Crescent Building in Kanda today, and all the Chinese massage floors are locked down I. E. The elevator won't stop at them. Phones don't answer and some of the websites are down. The only floor open was 4F which is a legitimate Thai massage operation. Since other Chinese MPs in the area seem to still be in operation I assume this was a Crescent-specific issue. Possibly LE intervention.
Stay safe out there.
ESFound the same situation there yesterday. I had thought maybe the elevators were just not working, but based on your report something clearly has happened. Not good news. I'm not sure why LE would have gotten involved. From my experience, all the shops were just really good rub-and-tugs. Nothing illegal for Japan. This is not good news!
Hey guys,
I'm based in Los Angeles and will be spending three weeks in Tokyo. I've rented an apartment in Shinjuku. Will delivery health services send a girl to my apartment or would they require a hotel? If they require a hotel, I'm not real sure how to check into a love hotel. What's the "protocol" for checking in? For what it's worth, I've studied Japanese for years. I can read it better than I speak it, but basic conversation isn't a problem. I've been to Tokyo several times and had some interesting experiences and look forward to sharing the ones I have on this trip.
Thanks
Hey guys,
I'm based in Los Angeles and will be spending three weeks in Tokyo. I've rented an apartment in Shinjuku. Will delivery health services send a girl to my apartment or would they require a hotel? If they require a hotel, I'm not real sure how to check into a love hotel. What's the "protocol" for checking in? For what it's worth, I've studied Japanese for years. I can read it better than I speak it, but basic conversation isn't a problem. I've been to Tokyo several times and had some interesting experiences and look forward to sharing the ones I have on this trip.
ThanksIf you are from US you will have no problem in finding any meat. Most of the time for free. Just walk to any Roppongi pub and you will be loaded with girls who want to socialize with you. Only thing Japanese women like well dress men so I would go fully dressed. I am from Sri Lanka and not blond hair and blue eyes (looks like an Indian and most of them thought so untill I tell them) but never had to pay any girls. However I speak fluent Japanese and even if you speak basic Japanese you will have no problem. (It is a different story without any Japanese language skills) Good luck and please share your experiences.
LoulouFisher
11-15-12, 07:16
If you are from US you will have no problem in finding any meat. Most of the time for free. Just walk to any Roppongi pub and you will be loaded with girls who want to socialize with you. Only thing Japanese women like well dress men so I would go fully dressed. I am from Sri Lanka and not blond hair and blue eyes (looks like an Indian and most of them thought so untill I tell them) but never had to pay any girls. However I speak fluent Japanese and even if you speak basic Japanese you will have no problem. (It is a different story without any Japanese language skills) Good luck and please share your experiences.Can you give us some pointers to good pubs in Rapongi?
Hey guys,
I'm based in Los Angeles and will be spending three weeks in Tokyo. I've rented an apartment in Shinjuku. Will delivery health services send a girl to my apartment or would they require a hotel? If they require a hotel, I'm not real sure how to check into a love hotel. What's the "protocol" for checking in? For what it's worth, I've studied Japanese for years. I can read it better than I speak it, but basic conversation isn't a problem. I've been to Tokyo several times and had some interesting experiences and look forward to sharing the ones I have on this trip.
ThanksYes, many delivery health providers will deliver to your home. Some will have staff check out your house first. Some will charge you extra for a home delivery. It just depends on the provider.
Checking into a love hotel is easy. You just walk in, and usually there will be a board with a bunch of pictures of rooms. The pictures that are lit up are the ones that are available. Each room picture has a button below it. You push a button for the room you want, then go to the desk, pay, and get a key. You then call the DH and give them your room number. That's it.
Naked Gaijin
11-15-12, 10:34
Found the same situation there yesterday. I had thought maybe the elevators were just not working, but based on your report something clearly has happened. Not good news. I'm not sure why LE would have gotten involved. From my experience, all the shops were just really good rub-and-tugs. Nothing illegal for Japan. This is not good news!Stopped by the Crescent building again today to double-check (and to get a righteous massage at the legit Thai massage shop on 4F). Well, the good news is that it looks like the Chinese shops are back in business. After my awesome muscle and bone crushing at the Thai joint, I punched in 7F in the elevator (formerly Hana Hana). Door opened and the tencho welcomed me in. Told him I pressed the wrong floor, but clearly it looks like we can quit panicking now.
Evan Stoner
11-16-12, 02:07
Stopped by the Crescent building again today to double-check (and to get a righteous massage at the legit Thai massage shop on 4F). Well, the good news is that it looks like the Chinese shops are back in business. After my awesome muscle and bone crushing at the Thai joint, I punched in 7F in the elevator (formerly Hana Hana). Door opened and the tencho welcomed me in. Told him I pressed the wrong floor, but clearly it looks like we can quit panicking now.That's good news. I wonder what the issue was. I had noticed at least one other place in Kanda that stopped answering its phone in the past few days, although a bunch of places seemed to be business as usual. By the way the 7F MP Previously Known As Hana Hana is now Flower Venus. I hope my regular girl is still there, although I know one girl in another Crescent shop who already moved to a shop in Kamata.
On a related note: 8F which used to be Lucky Eleven is now Coco. I stopped the elevator there one day last week and was given the Universal No-Gaijin Sign by the harelipped oyaji behind the counter. Shocking to find that at an MP but maybe he was simply having a bad day. Either the shop itself or that attitude is unlikely to last.
ES
Naked Gaijin
11-16-12, 13:57
That's good news. I wonder what the issue was. I had noticed at least one other place in Kanda that stopped answering its phone in the past few days, although a bunch of places seemed to be business as usual. By the way the 7F MP Previously Known As Hana Hana is now Flower Venus. I hope my regular girl is still there, although I know one girl in another Crescent shop who already moved to a shop in Kamata.
On a related note: 8F which used to be Lucky Eleven is now Coco. I stopped the elevator there one day last week and was given the Universal No-Gaijin Sign by the harelipped oyaji behind the counter. Shocking to find that at an MP but maybe he was simply having a bad day. Either the shop itself or that attitude is unlikely to last.
ESSo I was in the Kanda area again today and all this talk about the Crescent building got me sentimental, so I went for a good rub-and-tug. First I hit the 5th floor (I think it's "Marine" if I remember the kana correctly). I asked the tencho for photos of the girls, but he said they didn't have any photos yet. So I asked him for descriptions. I said I wanted a spinner, but he said the girls on duty then were not small, in fact chubby (he also described one as "grandma"). Well, I politely thanked him and said "next time". I then decided to try another floor. First I hit the button for 9. It didn't work. Then 8. Also, no go. Then 7 (now Flower Venus) was good to go. The tencho there told me they just reopened yesterday after a "renewal". Strange though, since everything looked exactly as when I had been there before a few months ago. Anyway, it seems that it's all new girls too. Two were on duty at the time and he had photos. I picked the one the tencho said was smaller. Found that the service is all the same. Shower first, decent massage by a cute girl (she was surprisingly GFE) and a nice tug for a finish, followed by another shower. Al-in-all, pretty decent value (11, 000 for 90 minutes).
Point is though that not all the floors have reopened. Could be that they are all being "renewed" and all will be back to normal soon?
By the way, the website for 7F is still the same as when it was Hana Hana.
http://kanda-iyashi.com/index.php.
You can check for your girl there. My old favorite is definitely not listed anymore.
Can you give us some pointers to good pubs in Rapongi?The Hub is popular. You might want to check out the nanpa (picking up girls) section for more info.
I had to pass through Nippori late at night due to work. I noticed that there are actually Chinese streetwalkers just across the street from the the stairs leading to the south entrance. At first it was one girl who was looking around and pacing but definitely did not look like she was waiting for someone she knew. Later she had friends come and join her, but they were all eyeing every male passerby and one of them latched onto the arm of a middle aged salary man which confirmed they were street walkers. None of them were lookers so I didn't approach them, but maybe in the future if there is a looker among them I'll give it a try. I just thought I would share this information with anyone who's interested. I'm also curious if anyone out there has actually tried a streetwalker in Nippori?
I had to pass through Nippori late at night due to work. I noticed that there are actually Chinese streetwalkers just across the street from the the stairs leading to the south entrance. At first it was one girl who was looking around and pacing but definitely did not look like she was waiting for someone she knew. Later she had friends come and join her, but they were all eyeing every male passerby and one of them latched onto the arm of a middle aged salary man which confirmed they were street walkers. None of them were lookers so I didn't approach them, but maybe in the future if there is a looker among them I'll give it a try. I just thought I would share this information with anyone who's interested. I'm also curious if anyone out there has actually tried a streetwalker in Nippori?Chinese massagi girls are notorious for emptying your wallet and doing not much else.
LoveShibuyaGirls
11-17-12, 11:30
I saw Shizuko from Mucchiri in Uguisuidani today.
I arranged for 100 minutes. AF was included at no extra charge. It as supposed to be 20000 but I decided to leave early, so they gave me back 4000. We did AF twice. One time I finished inside and the other time I pulled out and came in her mouth. All that for 16000 is a pretty good deal.
www.mucchiri.com
I saw Shizuko from Mucchiri in Uguisuidani today.
I arranged for 100 minutes. AF was included at no extra charge. It as supposed to be 20000 but I decided to leave early, so they gave me back 4000. We did AF twice. One time I finished inside and the other time I pulled out and came in her mouth. All that for 16000 is a pretty good deal.
www.mucchiri.comHow does the system there work? Do they have a shop or did you have her come to a hotel? If you went to their shop, did you just show up or did you make a reservation? Where are they located? No map on the web site.
How does the system there work? Do they have a shop or did you have her come to a hotel? If you went to their shop, did you just show up or did you make a reservation? Where are they located? No map on the web site.Like almost all DH in Uguisudani they don't have a location. You do everything over the phone including calling with your keitei from the LH room.
I went to Yoshiwara today planning on trying out Cream Lemon due to the 90 minute for 24, 000 yen campaign and good reviews here. I was a little lazy to call and make an appointment, so I just showed up around 2pm on Sunday hoping things wouldn't be busy but they were. The person at the front greeted me kindly but said that without an appointment I would have to wait 1. 5-2 hours. I decided to just head home because I didn't feel like sitting in a waiting room for two hours. On the return path I was stopped by the Kadoebi guy who was pretty persistent about me going in to view the pictures of the girls. I asked about the price first because I didn't want to go in and find out that everything cost 70, 000 yen like it can sometimes. He said that it would be 28, 000 yen for 80 minutes and that the shop next door was cheaper but of lower quality, and that I should come and view the pictures; if I didn't like what I saw I was free to go next door. I double checked the price with him just to make sure it wasn't just the entry fee, which fortunately prompted him to give me a 2000 yen off coupon to further entice me to go in. http://honten.kadoebi.co.jp/index.html
I found out why the guy was so desperate to get me inside. The place was completely empty. I found the inside to be very classy and beautiful. It had a very old Japan look to it and the waiting room was huge with comfy chairs and a giant TV. The staff brought me a drink and some snacks first, then came back with three pictures. I picked Kari and the guy said "we're different from other places, we don't photoshop the pictures so the girl will look even cuter in real life." I naturally took that with a grain of salt, but after a 5 minute wait, I was brought over to the room end of the establishment and Kari pretty much looked like her picture. She was reasonably cute looking and had a fairly nice body.
I was led into the room and things started with a shower on the funky plastic chair, and then I was told to wait in the bath while she prepped the air mattress. When things were ready she first came into the bathtub for some DFK and BBBJ then led me to the mat. The mat play was as you see in AV films and eventually you're flipped over for some CFS. After round 1 you go back into the bathtub while the girl cleans up then you dry yourself off and go to the bed. Drinks are then delivered to the room so you can take a break, have a drink and chat with the girl. After a bit of chatting, the girl naturally leads you into round 2 on the bed. After that you're showered again, then a bit of time in the bathtub again, then you dress, say your good byes and head out. I got another drink in the waiting room while I waited for their car to return, then I was given a ride to Nippori station. Hilariously on the way out, I was give a bag full of presents which included a bottle of water, some socks, some money looking note paper, a comb, and a 2013 calendar.
Overall I had a great time. Kari was definitely into it and gave excellent service. I usually use K-deli services which cost around 25, 000 yen for 80 minutes and the hotel room (only one pop) and now I cannot really justify going back to them. The K-deli place I use gives excellent service and the girls are attractive, but the service is nowhere what you receive at a Yoshiwara soapland. The usual tradeoff is that budget soaps usually have older fatter women working there, but Kadoebi didn't seem to have that problem. I'm definitely going back, especially since my 2000 yen off coupon is infinitely reusable.
So about the process. You pay 6000 yen (after coupon) up front to the store, then 20, 000 to the girl after everything is done which keeps everything nice and legal in the soapland loophole. I cannot vouch for total gaijin friendliness because I have the ability to pass myself off as a regular Japanese guy, but seeing how dead everything was I'm sure they'd rather accept a foreigner than have no business. Most likely you'll have to speak decent Japanese though, because I don't think anyplace in Yoshiwara takes people who they can't communicate to.
Lurkingdog
11-19-12, 10:52
So I decided I would TOFTT and try this establishment. I wasn't sure what to expect but with eyes wide open and little to no expectations, I visited Sunday night. The mama-san sat me down in the waiting area and was really pushing the 100 minutes for 15, 000 Yen menu item (they also have a 60 minute / 8, 000 and an 80 minute / 11, 000, and a 120 minute 19, 000 choice). When I pulled out my cash, I only had 12, 000 yen so I was going to give her 11, 000 for the 80 min item and she said never mind and have me the 100 minute session for 12, 000 (which is close if not better to Kanda prices). I was led to a room and met Aiya, a very nice young Korean woman (probably a 7 in looks and with a really nice personality). I got undressed and then she took me to the table shower. Let me say that this was unequivocally the finest table shower I have ever had in any AMP establishment. She soaped and scrubbed most all of my body several times using little scrubby gloves that really felt wonderful. She did just use her hands in the private parts and did a nice job there. The shower itself was probably 20 minutes long. Then it was back to the room where she provide a wonderful oil massage and after I told her I wanted it deep, she really got in and tried to get all the knots out. She even did the "walk on the back and legs" thing that feels so wonderful. Then hot towels and more massage. Then the flip. A little more massage, then she said "just a minute" and stepped out after turning down the lights. When she returned, she was only in the towel explaining that she just showered and then she got on top of me, total nude and began the teasing with her hard nipples and her soft breast and her soft hands. It was truly heavenly. She got on top and did a wonderful HR / body rub where I shortly there after covered both of our bellys with special sauce. Then she got out, showered again, and then returned to massage me a little more to finish up the session before we returned to the shower and she washes me off.
So, I was totally pampered by a pretty young Korean miss with a great attitude and a very nice body for 100 minutes. I don't know if there is anything more to get there (ie, like one floor above) but I had a wonderful time nonetheless.
Have fun!
LD
So I decided I would TOFTT and try this establishment. I wasn't sure what to expect but with eyes wide open and little to no expectations, I visited Sunday night. The mama-san sat me down in the waiting area and was really pushing the 100 minutes for 15, 000 Yen menu item (they also have a 60 minute / 8, 000 and an 80 minute / 11, 000, and a 120 minute 19, 000 choice). When I pulled out my cash, I only had 12, 000 yen so I was going to give her 11, 000 for the 80 min item and she said never mind and have me the 100 minute session for 12, 000 (which is close if not better to Kanda prices). I was led to a room and met Aiya, a very nice young Korean woman (probably a 7 in looks and with a really nice personality). I got undressed and then she took me to the table shower. Let me say that this was unequivocally the finest table shower I have ever had in any AMP establishment. She soaped and scrubbed most all of my body several times using little scrubby gloves that really felt wonderful. She did just use her hands in the private parts and did a nice job there. The shower itself was probably 20 minutes long. Then it was back to the room where she provide a wonderful oil massage and after I told her I wanted it deep, she really got in and tried to get all the knots out. She even did the "walk on the back and legs" thing that feels so wonderful. Then hot towels and more massage. Then the flip. A little more massage, then she said "just a minute" and stepped out after turning down the lights. When she returned, she was only in the towel explaining that she just showered and then she got on top of me, total nude and began the teasing with her hard nipples and her soft breast and her soft hands. It was truly heavenly. She got on top and did a wonderful HR / body rub where I shortly there after covered both of our bellys with special sauce. Then she got out, showered again, and then returned to massage me a little more to finish up the session before we returned to the shower and she washes me off.
So, I was totally pampered by a pretty young Korean miss with a great attitude and a very nice body for 100 minutes. I don't know if there is anything more to get there (ie, like one floor above) but I had a wonderful time nonetheless.
Have fun!
LDThanks LD for doing this. I've was in that area yesterday and almost decided to do the same but had to meet someone for dinner and didn't have time. I'll keep this filed away. But, as with many Korean places it could be shutdown or the management could change suddenly like the beloved Trinity in Otsuka five or so years back. What a great place that was!
I have been reading the forum for a number of years, and have quite a lot of experience of mongering, particularly in the areas of deri, in the Ugusuidani, and Shibuya areas. I have recently been pressed for time and thinking of exploring massage parlours.
While it seemsrelatively easy to locate the shops which provide a happy ending (in whatever form) after a beer or two, I am at a loss on how to identify these places as I walk around during my lunch break.
Is there anything on the signs outside these shops that acts as a kind if code or trigger for a "good" (in the terms discussed on this forum) from the more general, health oriented shops?
I have been reading the forum for a number of years, and have quite a lot of experience of mongering, particularly in the areas of deri, in the Ugusuidani, and Shibuya areas. I have recently been pressed for time and thinking of exploring massage parlours.
While it seemsrelatively easy to locate the shops which provide a happy ending (in whatever form) after a beer or two, I am at a loss on how to identify these places as I walk around during my lunch break.
Is there anything on the signs outside these shops that acts as a kind if code or trigger for a "good" (in the terms discussed on this forum) from the more general, health oriented shops?About all the happy ending places you can find are in this link, http://www.hoan-hoan.com/
Works for me for the past couple years. Or whenever you see one and walked in, just ask the tenchou is sabisu included.
I have been reading the forum for a number of years, and have quite a lot of experience of mongering, particularly in the areas of deri, in the Ugusuidani, and Shibuya areas. I have recently been pressed for time and thinking of exploring massage parlours.
While it seemsrelatively easy to locate the shops which provide a happy ending (in whatever form) after a beer or two, I am at a loss on how to identify these places as I walk around during my lunch break.
Is there anything on the signs outside these shops that acts as a kind if code or trigger for a "good" (in the terms discussed on this forum) from the more general, health oriented shops?Unfortunately, not really much you can figure out from the outside in my experience. If your Japanese is OK and you have a keitai you can call and ask. That's what I do. A lot of esute on a-side. Com which is where I usually hunt phone numbers to prospect. Places in the Ueno, Okachimachi, Kanda, Otsuka and Ikebukuro areas are where I usually call. But, you can often find a diamond in the rough in places like Kinshicho, Kameido, Nihombashi, etc.
Member #4680
11-20-12, 09:13
I saw Shizuko from Mucchiri in Uguisuidani today.
I arranged for 100 minutes. AF was included at no extra charge. It as supposed to be 20000 but I decided to leave early, so they gave me back 4000. We did AF twice. One time I finished inside and the other time I pulled out and came in her mouth. All that for 16000 is a pretty good deal.
www.mucchiri.comDo they speak some English or all Japanese over the phone?
Unfortunately, not really much you can figure out from the outside in my experience. If your Japanese is OK and you have a keitai you can call and ask. That's what I do. A lot of esute on a-side. Com which is where I usually hunt phone numbers to prospect. Places in the Ueno, Okachimachi, Kanda, Otsuka and Ikebukuro areas are where I usually call. But, you can often find a diamond in the rough in places like Kinshicho, Kameido, Nihombashi, etc.I'll add to that. To increase the odds, Asian places ie not Japanese (*) and oil massages 60 min or more for 10, 000 yen or more and in a dodgy part of town. The average suburban Thai place that does a 2 hour massage for 3, 500 yen won't be happy ending. The word kaishun means rejuvenation and indicates happy ending.
* some Japanese massage places do happy endings
LoveShibuyaGirls
11-20-12, 12:44
Only Japanese.
Do they speak some English or all Japanese over the phone?
LoveShibuyaGirls
11-20-12, 12:52
Mana from Grimpeur is also gaijin NG, damnit.
http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/profile.php?id=2131
Mana from Grimpeur is also gaijin NG, damnit.
http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/profile.php?id=2131That's really bad news, was tempted to go and see her tomorrow although she dropped off the rota. But if she's not and the roa for us anyway then doesn't really matter.
http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/profile.php?id=2136
Looks tempting as well.
LoveShibuyaGirls
11-21-12, 00:33
Maybe Mana-chan has already decided that this is not a good career fit for her. Haha too bad.
That's really bad news, was tempted to go and see her tomorrow although she dropped off the rota. But if she's not and the roa for us anyway then doesn't really matter.
http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/profile.php?id=2136
Looks tempting as well.
Lurkingdog
11-21-12, 14:30
I went to Yoshiwara today planning on trying out Cream Lemon due to the 90 minute for 24, 000 yen campaign and good reviews here. I was a little lazy to call and make an appointment, so I just showed up around 2pm on Sunday hoping things wouldn't be busy but they were. The person at the front greeted me kindly but said that without an appointment I would have to wait 1. 5-2 hours. I decided to just head home because I didn't feel like sitting in a waiting room for two hours. On the return path I was stopped by the Kadoebi guy who was pretty persistent about me going in to view the pictures of the girls. I asked about the price first because I didn't want to go in and find out that everything cost 70, 000 yen like it can sometimes. He said that it would be 28, 000 yen for 80 minutes and that the shop next door was cheaper but of lower quality, and that I should come and view the pictures; if I didn't like what I saw I was free to go next door. I double checked the price with him just to make sure it wasn't just the entry fee, which fortunately prompted him to give me a 2000 yen off coupon to further entice me to go in.
http://honten.kadoebi.co.jp/index.html
I found out why the guy was so desperate to get me inside. The place was completely empty. I found the inside to be very classy and beautiful. It had a very old Japan look to it and the waiting room was huge with comfy chairs and a giant TV. The staff brought me a drink and some snacks first, then came back with three pictures. I picked Kari and the guy said "we're different from other places, we don't photoshop the pictures so the girl will look even cuter in real life." I naturally took that with a grain of salt, but after a 5 minute wait, I was brought over to the room end of the establishment and Kari pretty much looked like her picture. She was reasonably cute looking and had a fairly nice body.
I was led into the room and things started with a shower on the funky plastic chair, and then I was told to wait in the bath while she prepped the air mattress. When things were ready she first came into the bathtub for some DFK and BBBJ then led me to the mat. The mat play was as you see in AV films and eventually you're flipped over for some CFS. After round 1 you go back into the bathtub while the girl cleans up then you dry yourself off and go to the bed. Drinks are then delivered to the room so you can take a break, have a drink and chat with the girl. After a bit of chatting, the girl naturally leads you into round 2 on the bed. After that you're showered again, then a bit of time in the bathtub again, then you dress, say your good byes and head out. I got another drink in the waiting room while I waited for their car to return, then I was given a ride to Nippori station. Hilariously on the way out, I was give a bag full of presents which included a bottle of water, some socks, some money looking note paper, a comb, and a 2013 calendar.
Overall I had a great time. Kari was definitely into it and gave excellent service. I usually use K-deli services which cost around 25, 000 yen for 80 minutes and the hotel room (only one pop) and now I cannot really justify going back to them. The K-deli place I use gives excellent service and the girls are attractive, but the service is nowhere what you receive at a Yoshiwara soapland. The usual tradeoff is that budget soaps usually have older fatter women working there, but Kadoebi didn't seem to have that problem. I'm definitely going back, especially since my 2000 yen off coupon is infinitely reusable.
So about the process. You pay 6000 yen (after coupon) up front to the store, then 20, 000 to the girl after everything is done which keeps everything nice and legal in the soapland loophole. I cannot vouch for total gaijin friendliness because I have the ability to pass myself off as a regular Japanese guy, but seeing how dead everything was I'm sure they'd rather accept a foreigner than have no business. Most likely you'll have to speak decent Japanese though, because I don't think anyplace in Yoshiwara takes people who they can't communicate to.Nice report . I was just on their website and some of the girls have a red star on the corner of their picture with three Kanji characters (double mountain, something, Naka). Can you (or anyone else) tell me what this indicates?
Thanks,
LD
Means she is working now or on the clock
LoveShibuyaGirls
11-21-12, 14:56
As it turns out, Ms Yamaguchi at Grimpeur is also gaijin NG.
http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/profile.php?id=2116
Grimpeur has had a lot of nice girls recently, but a lot are gaijin NG
Nice report. I was just on their website and some of the girls have a red star on the corner of their picture with three Kanji characters (double mountain, something, Naka). Can you (or anyone else) tell me what this indicates?
Thanks,
LDThe kanji just means that they're working today.
Backtobasics
11-22-12, 02:09
Interesting.
http://www.japantoday.com/category/lifestyle/view/rent-a-girlfriend-service-offers-simulated-romance
I cannot vouch for total gaijin friendliness because I have the ability to pass myself off as a regular Japanese guy, but seeing how dead everything was I'm sure they'd rather accept a foreigner than have no business. Most likely you'll have to speak decent Japanese though, because I don't think anyplace in Yoshiwara takes people who they can't communicate to.I called them up once and asked if they would take foreigners and they told me no. I can pass as a Japanese in phone and they actually thought I called for a friend but it was still a firm no. Maybe the recession is hitting them finally.
I'll add to that. To increase the odds, Asian places ie not Japanese (*) and oil massages 60 min or more for 10, 000 yen or more and in a dodgy part of town.That advice alone will get you quite far to the right direction. It used to be that all places offering lymph (rinpa) massage for that time and money were almost 100% HE places but that is not true anymore.
Also even if they do the service they might not be telling you if you asked beforehand so calling might not work. And even more, you might not get it with the first visit but only from the second. As normally YMMV.
It depends on the location, the girls on shift and the tencho in my experience. I've been to the Ikebukuro locations and gotten in and been turned down at the same locations at other times. Calling them is probably not a good idea because they can't size you up over the phone. Also, it helps to go at a very slow time when you're the only one in the waiting room while the girl prepares the bath for you.
I called them up once and asked if they would take foreigners and they told me no. I can pass as a Japanese in phone and they actually thought I called for a friend but it was still a firm no. Maybe the recession is hitting them finally.
Lurkingdog
11-23-12, 13:03
I called them up once and asked if they would take foreigners and they told me no. I can pass as a Japanese in phone and they actually thought I called for a friend but it was still a firm no. Maybe the recession is hitting them finally.Hi Geezer. I read your comment but it sort of confused me. If the recession were hitting them finally, wouldn't they be more inclined to take Gai-jin, all things being equal since yen from Gai-jin is the same and yen fron Nihon-jin?
LD
Hi Geezer. I read your comment but it sort of confused me. If the recession were hitting them finally, wouldn't they be more inclined to take Gai-jin, all things being equal since yen from Gai-jin is the same and yen fron Nihon-jin?
LDThat was my point; I called them way back and it was No. Now the new report says they are saying Yes.
So it seems the customer flow is getting thinner and even gaijins are OK nowadays.
Lurkingdog
11-24-12, 06:03
That was my point; I called them way back and it was No. Now the new report says they are saying Yes.
So it seems the customer flow is getting thinner and even gaijins are OK nowadays.Okay. Now I get it. Sorry to be so dense. I thought you had just called them recently and that said,"no".
Thanks for your help,
LD
Okay. Now I get it. Sorry to be so dense. I thought you had just called them recently and that said,"no".
Thanks for your help,
LDMaybe I'm dense. Are you all talking about a specific branch or the entire chain? They vary from lower end to medium. The lower end places have always been hit or miss depending on who is working at the time, the shift and the tencho you talk to. The Shibuya store is the one I'm most familiar with. I've had about 75% success rate there but have been flat turned down even though I am a semi-repeat customer. The regular tencho I always deal with has no problems with me but another guy just waves me off without much discussion.
Maybe I'm dense. Are you all talking about a specific branch or the entire chain? They vary from lower end to medium. The lower end places have always been hit or miss depending on who is working at the time, the shift and the tencho you talk to. The Shibuya store is the one I'm most familiar with. I've had about 75% success rate there but have been flat turned down even though I am a semi-repeat customer. The regular tencho I always deal with has no problems with me but another guy just waves me off without much discussion.In Shibuya, I normally use Gimpeur, which is bit hit and'miss in terms of quality of service, but overall more hit than miss. I have also tried a couple of the Dogenzaka 'Relaxation' Massage places that have signs on the street, but I haven't managed to get more than a nice 60 min massage (wearing that ridiculous paper t-back panty) for around ¥8000 in any of them-in other words, no HE was offered.
I do walk by the Shibuya Kadoebi store quite often, but have never ventured in. I do understand from your post that it is unpredictably Gaijin friendly. That said, could you give an idea of your experience at that branch. Eg, the gals (looks and service) and the total standard price.
Many thanks.
Manta Ray
Lurkingdog
11-25-12, 13:53
So, after my last very enjoyable visit to this establishment, I thought I would go on a field trip to see if any further mileage could be received at this place. I returned and the mama-san that I met last week was not on. Instead it was a tencho who was polite. I gave him my points card which he stamped and I once again selected the 100 minute session. I wanted to see Aiya again but she was already with a customer. The tencho showed me two others that were available. Both very cute young Korean women. And so I chose MiKi. She looked just like the picture. Once again I had an incredible table shower and a very good massage with oil, hot towels, walking on the back. At the end, I tried to see if there was anything more than just a HE available but from her response, it certainly didn't appear so. It was my first time with her (that's why I wanted to see Aiya) but I suspect it's a HR release only type of place (albeit with a very cute naked young Korean woman providing the service). I might need to try the shorter, less expensive courses to see if the HE is the same. If so, I don't think I'll be returning to Kanda any time soon.
LD
Once again I had an incredible table shower and a very good massage with oil, hot towels, walking on the back. At the end, I tried to see if there was anything more than just a HE available but from her response, it certainly didn't appear so.
LDDon't get your hopes up too high.
I've been going to these type of Korean akasuri places regularly for many years and that's standard service.
You may find a girl who is dirty and likes you and gives extra service, especially as you get to know her over many visits. I've had some quite wild experiences but these girls come and go regularly so even if you do establish something it's hard to keep it going.
BTW you shouldn't have akasuri more than once a month.
Lurkingdog
11-26-12, 11:04
Don't get your hopes up too high.
I've been going to these type of Korean akasuri places regularly for many years and that's standard service.
You may find a girl who is dirty and likes you and gives extra service, especially as you get to know her over many visits. I've had some quite wild experiences but these girls come and go regularly so even if you do establish something it's hard to keep it going.
BTW you shouldn't have akasuri more than once a month.Thanks, Japanguy, for the insight. I'm curious (other than the obvious hit to the pocketbook) why do you not recommend akasuri more than once a month?
LD
Don't get your hopes up too high.
I've been going to these type of Korean akasuri places regularly for many years and that's standard service.
You may find a girl who is dirty and likes you and gives extra service, especially as you get to know her over many visits. I've had some quite wild experiences but these girls come and go regularly so even if you do establish something it's hard to keep it going.
BTW you shouldn't have akasuri more than once a month.This is EXACTLY my experience with the Korean places that offer akasuri and hot towels. I have had FS before but I know it was not part of the standard service and the girl was going rogue in doing this. It was supposed to be sumata but I guess she figures FS is easier or something.
Thanks, Japanguy, for the insight. I'm curious (other than the obvious hit to the pocketbook) why do you not recommend akasuri more than once a month?
LDAkasuri grinds off a good layer of skin. If you have it too often you're going to look like a sunburned, fair-skinned alcoholic with a fever.
In Shibuya, I normally use Gimpeur, which is bit hit and'miss in terms of quality of service, but overall more hit than miss. I have also tried a couple of the Dogenzaka 'Relaxation' Massage places that have signs on the street, but I haven't managed to get more than a nice 60 min massage (wearing that ridiculous paper t-back panty) for around ¥8000 in any of them-in other words, no HE was offered.
I do walk by the Shibuya Kadoebi store quite often, but have never ventured in. I do understand from your post that it is unpredictably Gaijin friendly. That said, could you give an idea of your experience at that branch. Eg, the gals (looks and service) and the total standard price.
Many thanks.
Manta RayI don't have any experience with the higher end Kadoebi shops, only the lower priced places. The girls are older and not very attractive in my experience, much like NYNY or Champs. The difference is you get FS and pay Y5000 or more than NYNY or Champs extra for the service. You also get mat service included, just like any other soap. Service has always been OK, nothing extraordinary or memorable but plenty OK. For Y15000-Y21000 it is OK but not a bargain. The main thing is you are getting a Japanese lady for the premium over the Chinese and Korean places. Don't expect some 20-something hot thing, though. You will be very disappointed. And, you have to deal with the rejection if they are willing to service foreigners.
I don't have any experience with the higher end Kadoebi shops, only the lower priced places. The girls are older and not very attractive in my experience, much like NYNY or Champs. The difference is you get FS and pay Y5000 or more than NYNY or Champs extra for the service. You also get mat service included, just like any other soap. Service has always been OK, nothing extraordinary or memorable but plenty OK. For Y15000-Y21000 it is OK but not a bargain. The main thing is you are getting a Japanese lady for the premium over the Chinese and Korean places. Don't expect some 20-something hot thing, though. You will be very disappointed. And, you have to deal with the rejection if they are willing to service foreigners.Thanks for the info H69. I will probably give Kadoebi a miss as I really am not interested in paying ¥20000 for an an older, not very attractive woman, Japanese or otherwise. What I would really like to find in Shibuya is a HE-guaranteed type of good-quality massage place, a la Asian Feeling. If any of you know of this type of place in Shibuya, do give a shout.
Over the past few months, I have been selectively trying the 'Relaxation massage' places on Dogenzaka that have signs in front. However, so far, all of them I've tried are paper-panty required, offering slightly titilating 60 min 'soft touch' massage, but ultimately no HE, for around ¥7000-10, 000. The search continues.
Manta Ray
This is EXACTLY my experience with the Korean places that offer akasuri and hot towels. I have had FS before but I know it was not part of the standard service and the girl was going rogue in doing this. It was supposed to be sumata but I guess she figures FS is easier or something.Bareback? I've only been to these places a few time, and I was pretty shocked when one girl put me inside with no cover during the sumata. It wasn't one of those really good sumata that feels like FS, it was the real deal. I creamed inside of her!
Bareback? I've only been to these places a few time, and I was pretty shocked when one girl put me inside with no cover during the sumata. It wasn't one of those really good sumata that feels like FS, it was the real deal. I creamed inside of her!It has always been offered BB but I always insisted on covered. It's always up to the girl but I find most of the Korean ones are pretty reckless in this regard.
Thanks for the info H69. I will probably give Kadoebi a miss as I really am not interested in paying ¥20000 for an an older, not very attractive woman, Japanese or otherwise. What I would really like to find in Shibuya is a HE-guaranteed type of good-quality massage place, a la Asian Feeling. If any of you know of this type of place in Shibuya, do give a shout.
Over the past few months, I have been selectively trying the 'Relaxation massage' places on Dogenzaka that have signs in front. However, so far, all of them I've tried are paper-panty required, offering slightly titilating 60 min 'soft touch' massage, but ultimately no HE, for around ¥7000-10, 000. The search continues.
Manta RayOne thing I can say about Kadoebi is that the website pictures are pretty accurate including the measurements. Old and not attractive is not a barrier for me. They seem to try harder than young hot ones I've had, but that's just my preference. Those places in Dogenzaka are a waste of money. I prefer to know exactly what I'm getting before I pay anything. If you speak directly to the tencho using indirect nuanced language you can usually get a sense of what the expectation is with respect to HJ or BJ. Honban is something I usually don't talk about directly unless I know it's a Chinese place and they don't care. I never broach the subject in a Japanese health or soap.
Lurkingdog
11-27-12, 11:57
Akasuri grinds off a good layer of skin. If you have it too often you're going to look like a sunburned, fair-skinned alcoholic with a fever.Yikes. I totally forgot about the scrubbing part (I just was thinking about the rubbing part!) I like your imagery. Thanks for the heads up.
LD
Yikes. I totally forgot about the scrubbing part (I just was thinking about the rubbing part!) I like your imagery. Thanks for the heads up.
LDAkasuri is an option, you can have just a massage. Go back in a couple of weeks and ask for the same girl.
Johnnyboy84
11-28-12, 10:01
http://hp-hinomaru.com/staffdetail_45.html
Has anyone met Ran from Hinomaru yet? She looks cute. I hope she is not another Mirai
http://hp-hinomaru.com/staffdetail_45.html
Has anyone met Ran from Hinomaru yet? She looks cute. I hope she is not another MiraiYesterday was her first day (according to the website). My buddy says he's going tomorrow to try her out. I'm looking forward to his report for sure.
Maybe I'm dense. Are you all talking about a specific branch or the entire chain? They vary from lower end to medium. The lower end places have always been hit or miss depending on who is working at the time, the shift and the tencho you talk to. The Shibuya store is the one I'm most familiar with. I've had about 75% success rate there but have been flat turned down even though I am a semi-repeat customer. The regular tencho I always deal with has no problems with me but another guy just waves me off without much discussion.There is no "maybe" in my case as I am a regular member in the dense club.
I was referring to the specific branch that was visited. I have tried the Shibuya one too a couple of times but never succeeded. But this is also way back.
Lurkingdog
11-30-12, 15:11
Was in the mood for FS and so went back to Himawari. Had Yuka once again and she obviously remembered me from before. This time I paid 15, 000 for 70 (rather than 10, 000 for 50) so it would seem so rushed. I got the scrub a dub in the table shower that I did not get before and the remainder was similar to the last visit. She must have been a little more turned on (or perhaps more comfortable with me as this was my second time with her) and she let me do a little more roaming with the hands and I was able to get fully inside of her this time. Again, I took my time and I could tell whether I was causing her pain or not but again afterwards, she was very complementary and said all sorts of nice things (perhaps just "customer relations"). With us having a little more time, she was more relaxed and I managed to spend some time giving her a back massage. Doing that, and rubbing up again her nice little booty got junior excited again but we didn't have any time to take care of a 2nd course (as it was she went over time by about 10 minutes). It was a nice evening. On the way home, I got solicited by a women outside of a Thai massage place. She wanted 3, 000 yen for 30 minutes. I respectfully declined. It seemed unlikely to lead to anything more.
In summary, comparing the two places (Tomato and Himawari). The massage is far better at Tomato in my opinion.
LD
Thanks for the report, LD.
http://www.hm-wr.com/top.html
Is this the place you went to? Didn't see Yuka on the ladies' list.
I think he is talking about the Himawari in Okachimachi http://www.ksc-himawari.com/
The link doesn't work for me though.
Thanks for the report, LD.
http://www.hm-wr.com/top.html
Is this the place you went to? Didn't see Yuka on the ladies' list.
Boulderado
12-01-12, 10:08
I was just cruzing the Happy Berry website and looked at the hime_pure video. Man, oh man! I need to go to this place when I visit in a few months! Seriously, there must be some sort of service where non-Japanese speakers can get translation / introduction to these places! Of course, I'm totally suffering from the "what I can't have must be sooo great" syndrome. After all, can a BJ only place even hold a candle to the German FKKs?
Lurkingdog
12-01-12, 10:23
Thanks for the report, LD.
http://www.hm-wr.com/top.html
Is this the place you went to? Didn't see Yuka on the ladies' list.Yamoto1 is correct. I went to the Himawari near the Okachimachi station (on the 4F, one floor above Tomato). I didn't know about the one to which you refer with the web-site. Have you been there? Please report on your experience if you have.
LD
Yamoto1 is correct. I went to the Himawari near the Okachimachi station (on the 4F, one floor above Tomato). I didn't know about the one to which you refer with the web-site. Have you been there? Please report on your experience if you have.
LDThanks LD. Never been there, I just did a Google search for Himawari and that's what I found. Was a little shocked to see women in their 60s at that provider.
Thanks for the report, LD.
http://www.hm-wr.com/top.html
Is this the place you went to? Didn't see Yuka on the ladies' list."Himawari" means "sunflower" in Japanese, and there are a substantial number of establishments in Tokyo, massage and non-massage, that have that name. I'd be careful with any establishment here to make sure you are referring to the same place in the same area of town. Uguisudani! = Okachimachi.
Johnnyboy84
12-01-12, 23:39
Yesterday was her first day (according to the website). My buddy says he's going tomorrow to try her out. I'm looking forward to his report for sure.What did he say? She worth it?
What did he say? She worth it?Sorry Gents, he didn't make it there to try her out and I haven't been there in weeks either.
Thanks for the report, LD.
http://www.hm-wr.com/top.html
Is this the place you went to? Didn't see Yuka on the ladies' list.This looks like my kind of shop (I have this thing for older women.). Is it gaijin firendly? If not any other places I could try my luck at?
This looks like my kind of shop (I have this thing for older women.). Is it gaijin firendly? If not any other places I could try my luck at?Try Konchan no Mise in Ikebukuro. www.fueiho.net Never been there myself, but it's been well-reviewed. Only 8000 / hr + hotel.
So now Japan is busting the customers at the kind of strip club I visited and reported on in September 2012?
"At the time of the bust, the venue was entertaining 40 patrons. The ten customers arrested are alleged to have paid 500 yen to rent digital cameras to photograph the female performers.". http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2012/11/19/amateur-performers-causing-osaka-to-stiffen-control-of-strip-club-industry/
Looks like a place like New Hot Point may also be in violation?
"Osaka prefectural police on September 24 raided strip club Juso Music for providing customers with sexual services.". http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2012/10/19/bust-of-osaka-strip-club-for-prostitution-linked-to-hashimotos-crackdown-on-sleaze/
WTF?
I was just cruzing the Happy Berry website and looked at the hime_pure video. Man, oh man! I need to go to this place when I visit in a few months! Seriously, there must be some sort of service where non-Japanese speakers can get translation / introduction to these places! Of course, I'm totally suffering from the "what I can't have must be sooo great" syndrome. After all, can a BJ only place even hold a candle to the German FKKs?Do you think a woman wants to spend an hour with someone they are unable to communicate with or do you want the translator to accompany you to the room as well? (like in Black Adder)
AussieGaigin
12-02-12, 23:46
Do you think a woman wants to spend an hour with someone they are unable to communicate with or do you want the translator to accompany you to the room as well? (like in Black Adder)Down here in Australia/Sydney we have a lot of PRC and K service providers (massage and FS) who have little or no English skills beyond their trade, and are quite happy to spend an hour with someone they are unable to communicate with. Money transcends all language barriers. LOL
Gentlemen I'm visiting Tokyo before X'mas on my way to Niseko skiing. I'm from Toronto, Canada. I will be staying in Kabukicho. I'm seeking recommendation for Soapland around the area. I don't speak Japanese so it could be an obstacle. I visit escorts (incalls) in Toronto couple times a week, which including providers from Korea, Japan, China and it cost $150 for 1/2hr full service or $250 an hour. But there is no soapland here. Although I had visited soapland in Bangkok. Nevertheless I like to try out soapland in the place of origin. Any recommendation is much appreciated.
. have little or no English skills beyond their trade.These Japanese girls don't even have that. LOL
HelloPanda3088
12-03-12, 08:25
hi,
i posted this on the kansai thread as well but only got one answer, so i'm posting here as well.
i have a question for all the asian guys: when you play, do you let them know up front that you're not japanese?
i'm of asian descent and my japanese is of daily conversation level but my pronunciation and speed is such that lots of people think i'm japanese unless i speak for a long time.
and i have some questions for everybody: is it important to call in advance before going to fashion health / esute / etc?
and for deli heru, do you have to give your name? real or fake? and is it normal to wait at the lh or outside somewhere?
sorry for the torrent of questions, but i've been reading this and other forums and can't quite find anything.
thanks!
Gentlemen I'm visiting Tokyo before X'mas on my way to Niseko skiing. I'm from Toronto, Canada. I will be staying in Kabukicho. I'm seeking recommendation for Soapland around the area. I don't speak Japanese so it could be an obstacle. I visit escorts (incalls) in Toronto couple times a week, which including providers from Korea, Japan, China and it cost $150 for 1/2hr full service or $250 an hour. But there is no soapland here. Although I had visited soapland in Bangkok. Nevertheless I like to try out soapland in the place of origin. Any recommendation is much appreciated.As far as I know.
Check the forum for Yoshiwara. There are some open to gaijins there.
Gentlemen I'm visiting Tokyo before X'mas on my way to Niseko skiing. I'm from Toronto, Canada. I will be staying in Kabukicho. I'm seeking recommendation for Soapland around the area. I don't speak Japanese so it could be an obstacle. I visit escorts (incalls) in Toronto couple times a week, which including providers from Korea, Japan, China and it cost $150 for 1/2hr full service or $250 an hour. But there is no soapland here. Although I had visited soapland in Bangkok. Nevertheless I like to try out soapland in the place of origin. Any recommendation is much appreciated.Another idea is Mermaid in Yokohama if you are willing to travel. (www.yokohama-mermaid.com).
I will be staying in Kabukicho. I'm seeking recommendation for Soapland around the area.As Dreams says, you really should check out Yoshiwara, where there are several soaps that will take you as a customer, even if many of them might not. Usually the more you are willing to pay for a "high class" soapland, the better your chances are.
Also, there are at least 8 or 9 soaplands in the Shinjuku area, several operated by the Kadoebi group. The only time I have been to a soap, it's been in Yoshiwara.
Someone asked about Don Juan in Shinjuku on another forum, though I don't know if he ever tried to get in. Here is their website:
http://www.donjuan.jp/top.php
Boulderado
12-03-12, 18:45
Do you think a woman wants to spend an hour with someone they are unable to communicate with or do you want the translator to accompany you to the room as well? (like in Black Adder)I have to check out Black Adder! But seriously, I've mongered with providers worldwide who I couldn't "talk" to, but we could communicate via hand signals, smiles, nods etc. The translator / wingman would be there to explain the rules, rates, etc. It seems that in Japan there is a stigma against foreigners that is greater than at most other places. Of course, I have been in German places where half the girls don't line up for a foreigner, but that means that half the girls don't mind giving GFE to a stranger who they can't "talk" to. This omnipresent boycott of foreign speaking punters seems pretty odd IMHO.
BTW, I wouldn't mind a wingman to explain how to use those weird vending machines in ramen shops. Do Japanese noodles need to be understood as well?
As far as I know.
Check the forum for Yoshiwara. There are some open to gaijins there.I forgot to add NewYork NewYork and Champs in Ueno as posisible options.
But beware, the providers are often ordinary housewifes, some of them in their 50s. And you cannot choose. And no FS, but sumata is usually quite good, and it is very cheap
(9600 Yens).
Seaech the forum for those names, and you will have detailed reports.
As Dreams says, you really should check out Yoshiwara, where there are several soaps that will take you as a customer, even if many of them might not. Usually the more you are willing to pay for a "high class" soapland, the better your chances are.
Also, there are at least 8 or 9 soaplands in the Shinjuku area, several operated by the Kadoebi group. The only time I have been to a soap, it's been in Yoshiwara.
Someone asked about Don Juan in Shinjuku on another forum, though I don't know if he ever tried to get in. Here is their website:
http://www.donjuan.jp/top.phpThank you Muku1 and Dreams, I definitely will check out Yoshiwara. It's only 1 hr transit time according to Google map. Any name or web link of Soapland in Yoshiwara will be appreciated.
BTW Don Juan.
http://www.donjuan.jp/top.php
Is only 3 minutes walking from my hotel. Thank you Muku1 for your suggestion. But they are expensive at ¥65, 000 compared with what I get in Toronto. But I may be reading it wrong:
https://www.donjuan.jp/system.php?rKey=
I forgot to add NewYork NewYork and Champs in Ueno as posisible options.
But beware, the providers are often ordinary housewifes, some of them in their 50s. And you cannot choose. And no FS, but sumata is usually quite good, and it is very cheap
(9600 Yens).
Seaech the forum for those names, and you will have detailed reports.I found a number of soaplands on this link: http://www.tokyopinkguide.com/soaplands.asp. I hope they are not over 50s haha. I will get all my FS from Japanese girls before leaving Toronto.
hi,
i have a question for all the asian guys: when you play, do you let them know up front that you're not japanese?
i'm of asian descent and my japanese is of daily conversation level but my pronunciation and speed is such that lots of people think i'm japanese unless i speak for a long time.
and i have some questions for everybody: is it important to call in advance before going to fashion health / esute / etc?
and for deli heru, do you have to give your name? real or fake? and is it normal to wait at the lh or outside somewhere?
thanks!when i play, i never let them know up front i'm not japanese. the girl figures it out right quick, though, and it is never a problem. if they suspect i am not japanese, i tell them straight up, but then they usually just ask if i can clearly understand the rules, and if so, it is no problem. from what i can tell (and i am asian, so perhaps my thinking is skewed) , looking asian just generally means less trouble for the girls in terms of a bunch of things like worrying about dick size, manners, racism or xenophobia, etc, so combine that with being able to understand when the girl is asking you to stop or tone it down, and you add up to be a perfect customer.
now i know that there are asians who are hung like horses, and other asians who slap women around, but again, speaking in general, a japanese girl won't be pissed off at the tencho if he gives her a guy who looks, acts, and sounds like any regular japanese john.
next question: it isn't usually necessary to call in advance unless you usually don't state a preference for girls (shimei nashi) and are repeating a place, and you want to be sure that you don't repeat with the same girl as last time.
for deri health, i use an alias. i've never met a girl who actually asked cared what my name was. they are more interested to make me know what their name is, so i will request them, and repeat.
be sure to report your experiences! good luck.
Matsui San
12-05-12, 04:28
hi,
i posted this on the kansai thread as well but only got one answer, so i'm posting here as well.
i have a question for all the asian guys: when you play, do you let them know up front that you're not japanese?
i'm of asian descent and my japanese is of daily conversation level but my pronunciation and speed is such that lots of people think i'm japanese unless i speak for a long time.
and i have some questions for everybody: is it important to call in advance before going to fashion health / esute / etc?
and for deli heru, do you have to give your name? real or fake? and is it normal to wait at the lh or outside somewhere?
sorry for the torrent of questions, but i've been reading this and other forums and can't quite find anything.
thanks!tell them you are foreign born japanese and you will do fine.
ToBeDetermined
12-05-12, 07:41
Tell them you are foreign born japanese and you will do fine.Absolutely right.
LoveShibuyaGirls
12-05-12, 13:18
for delivery health, hotel health, etc, i think it is important to call ahead and make a reservation. otherwise, you will surely end up with ugliest girl in the shop. this is both because you will be forced to choose from the leftover girls that weren't taken with reservations, and becasue without a reservation, the staff in the shop will steer foreign customers to the ugliest girl in the shop. trust me. i have wasted a fair amount of money at delivery places without making a reservation.
at every delivery health i have ever been to, you go to a love hotel and book the room, and then call the shop with the room number and then wait inside the room.
hi,
i posted this on the kansai thread as well but only got one answer, so i'm posting here as well.
i have a question for all the asian guys: when you play, do you let them know up front that you're not japanese?
i'm of asian descent and my japanese is of daily conversation level but my pronunciation and speed is such that lots of people think i'm japanese unless i speak for a long time.
and i have some questions for everybody: is it important to call in advance before going to fashion health / esute / etc?
and for deli heru, do you have to give your name? real or fake? and is it normal to wait at the lh or outside somewhere?
sorry for the torrent of questions, but i've been reading this and other forums and can't quite find anything.
thanks!
LoveShibuyaGirls
12-05-12, 13:22
All.
Thought I would post on the board asking if anybody has found any nice gaijin-OK FS-OK girls at Grimpeur recently?
As you can see from my recent posts, I've called asking about quite a few of their new chicks recently, but they all seem to be gaijin NG.
I've been looking / reading about it, but it seems like places in Tokyo are hit-or-miss as to the services they provide? Are there any CFS places in Shibuya? Or am I missing something?
Lost For Words
12-07-12, 07:41
Lately when I'm mongering in Shibuya, I usually end up at Shibuya Garden (
http://www.garden-gal.com/top.php
). It's just a standard deli-heru place but I've been pretty happy with the quality of the girls so far. They're fairly young and definitely have the "Shibuya style" to them. The first time I went there, I didn't call or anything, just showed up. There's a pretty detailed map on their site of where they are. Click on the last map on the access page. And when you get to the place and go up to the 2F, some guy will come out and ask you what store you're there for. I just said "Garden" and he told me where it was (around the corner and on the right). It seems like there's about 10 different shops (that are really just different counters) in that place.
I only talked to the guy behind the counter in Japanese, but he did seem to be testing my Japanese a bit. Even though I don't look Japanese at all and look just like any blond hair, blue eyed Westerner, he sort of spoon fed me the answer to say that I'm a "half" and that satisfied him enough. So if you go, I'd recommend just saying you're a half and you've been to deli-heru before and you shouldn't have any problems. Just be sure to get a members card for next time. I'm not sure about English though, but I have a feeling it might be difficult.
After that it's pretty standard. Pick the girl from some photos. Which in my experience so far have been fairly accurate. And he'll call the girl to make sure she's fine with a half (none so far have said no). Then there's a hotel that he'll recommend two doors down that's 2500 for 90 minutes. Just call with your room number when you get there and 5 minutes later the girl shows up. The service is the same as most other deli-heru but if you're in Shibuya and looking for a change from Grimpeur it's not a bad option.
I've been looking / reading about it, but it seems like places in Tokyo are hit-or-miss as to the services they provide? Are there any CFS places in Shibuya? Or am I missing something?No, the service is very standardized and very consistent. I suggest reading the forum or finding a primer on the Japanese scene.
Lately when I'm mongering in Shibuya, I usually end up at Shibuya Garden (
http://www.garden-gal.com/top.php
). It's just a standard deli-heru place.Thanks for the heads up. The girls look hot.
Just a correction of terms- The type of place you are describing is 'hotel health', not delivery health. The difference is the process:
A. Delivery health (usually spelled 'deriheru' in Katakana).
1. Go to love hotel. Call the store. Tell them what girl you want to see and your room number (you can usually reserve a girl before hand)
2. Girl shows up at the love hotel, and you pay the girl directly.
This is strictly an 'outcall' type establishment.
B. Hotel health ('hoteruherusu' in Katakana).
1. Go to their store. Pick a girl. Pay. (again, often you can reserve a girl before hand, but you have to go to the store to pay)
2. Go to love hotel. Call the store. Tell them your room number.
3. Girl shows up at love hotel.
This is a hybrid incall / outcall establishment.
These are both descendant from 'fashion health' places, which are incall only. You go to the store, you pay at the store, you play with the girl at the store. I think delivery health places are the most popular nowadays because it's more discreet for the guy, and it's cheaper for the store to not have a phyiscal presence.
I guess what I meant to say is that at one este I read that you get FS, and at another it's just a HJ.
No, the service is very standardized and very consistent. I suggest reading the forum or finding a primer on the Japanese scene.
Hi guys,
I've been going to this place lately. www.genkai-lovers.com
60 min 8000 yen + hotel (2000 yen) = 10, 000.
80 min 10, 000 yen + hotel (2500 or 2800 yen.see below) = 12, 500 or 12, 800 yen.
You can also get 3P for 14, 000. I haven't tried this yet.
Delivery Health CFS with Chinese girls in their mid-twenties. There are two girls there. Rino and Sara (the newer and younger ones) that are Gaijin NG. Here are reports on 4 of the girls that I've been with. I've had great service with them all. I've always gone the 80 minute for 10, 000 yen option. The second time you are with a girl, they add 1, 000 yen, since it counts as "Hon Shimei". This is pretty standard. The tencho was not exactly friendly at first, worried about "size", but he's always been polite. When you are finished with the girl, he always asks to talk to you and thanks you. Also, apparently they don't do reservations very far in advance. I tried a same-day reservation in the morning and he told me to call again in the evening. Recently, he's warmed up to me more. I think I'm the only gaijin customer he has. If you think it will get you some mileage, you can say you are Ken's friend. There are 2 hotels I have used here. One is Cosmos, which is a rental room. 90 min. 2500 yen. The other is Hotel Ai, which is a decent love hotel. 100 min. 2800 yen. The normal price is 3800 yen at this place, but the tencho can get you a 1000 yen discount. He will usually reserve a room for you under the name Sato.
Yuria. Face. 7, Body- 8. Great GFE, tight pussy, decent massage too. Very slender (56 cm) , nice tits. I like slim girls. Unfortunately, she went back to China for awhile.
Marie. Face. 7, Body 6. The best massage of the four I tried. She used to work at a massage place. Very professional. Very nice girl. A little thick in the middle but not fat.
Ayumi. Face. 6, Body 6. The second best massage after Marie. Not a looker, but a nice girl.
Hitomi. Face. 7, Body 8. Great GFE, lots of energy, nice and tight pussy. D-cups. Has a tat on her breasts. Called me "sukebe" when I was banging her. Nice kisser, makes lots of sucking sounds.
Overall, I think this is great value for the money. Been there 6 times, and haven't been disappointed. The girls are not drop-dead gorgeous, but they are better than average, and they are honest and kind.
[QUOTE=Lost For Words; 1357687]Lately when I'm mongering in Shibuya, I usually end up at Shibuya Garden (
http://www.garden-gal.com/top.php
Thanks a lot for the report.
So I was in Shibuya this morning and tried to go to a pink salon and I've read about 21 century as well as hinomaru. After I couldn't find them I went into the Shibuya Information area on the corner of the dogenzaka alley as you walk up the hill and was told that there were no pink salons in the area, it was only hotel health. Is this true, or was the guy just giving me a line?
After leaving I walk down the alley and notice a mxy establishment on the right. I recognized it from somewhere online, and I walked up to the 4th floor, where things were going well untill they asked me if I understood nihon ika or rika, rikka? Something like that. At that point I was a bit confused and they just said, sorry, no go. Can someone fill me in on what they were asking me?
I was at himawari last night up in okachimachi, and that seemed to go well. I might just go back, but I really wanted some local flavor. Anyone mind suggesting another place for me to try?
Ok, Sorry I take back everything I said before. I went to kabukicho today, and found hinomaru. After being told hana was the only one available and paying 6k yen for 30 mins, I was led to a couch in a darkened room full of couches. Hana was cute in her own way and while not chubby, not slim (6/10). She got me a water and then proceeded to clean my hands and then told me to basically drop'them. So I pull down my pants and shorts and she continues to wipe me down and afterwards drops the straps of her dress and removes her bra and panties. She then lays down somewhat awkwardly on the couch and proceeds to give me one of the best BBBJs I've had, let alone BBBJTCIM. All along the way I'm fingering her and she's starting to get real wet. I was actually trying to reciprocate the favor, but I pop, and then everythings over. She spits, and gets dressed, then cleans me up. Afterwards we chat for the rest of my time, and then she escorts me out of the door and halfway down the stairs. We said our goodbyes and I was on my way.
Actually walking back through kabukicho there were guys offering me FS with "japanese girls" for 15k. I read somewhere that the africans were moving in as a scam, but I didn't see any africans. Anybody ever take them up on it? I'm tempted to tomorrow.
Lurkingdog
12-09-12, 03:18
So I was in Shibuya this morning and tried to go to a pink salon and I've read about 21 century as well as hinomaru. After I couldn't find them I went into the Shibuya Information area on the corner of the dogenzaka alley as you walk up the hill and was told that there were no pink salons in the area, it was only hotel health. Is this true, or was the guy just giving me a line?
After leaving I walk down the alley and notice a mxy establishment on the right. I recognized it from somewhere online, and I walked up to the 4th floor, where things were going well untill they asked me if I understood nihon ika or rika, rikka? Something like that. At that point I was a bit confused and they just said, sorry, no go. Can someone fill me in on what they were asking me?
I was at himawari last night up in okachimachi, and that seemed to go well. I might just go back, but I really wanted some local flavor. Anyone mind suggesting another place for me to try?I can't speak for 21 Century but the only Hinomaru that I know about is in Kabukicho in Shinjuku, not in Shibuya. I also can't help you with the Nihon ika stuff. Glad you had a nice time at Himawari.
LD
Cougar Cookie
12-09-12, 03:29
[QUOTE=Gobo42; 1358007]So I was in Shibuya this morning and tried to go to a pink salon and I've read about 21 century as well as hinomaru. After I couldn't find them I went into the Shibuya Information area on the corner of the dogenzaka alley as you walk up the hill and was told that there were no pink salons in the area, it was only hotel health. Is this true, or was the guy just giving me a line?
Century 21 closed about 10 years ago if I am thinking of the same place. (BJ bar on Center-gai. Close to where Forever 21 is currently located. On the 2nd or 3rd floor.)
After leaving I walk down the alley and notice a mxy establishment on the right. I recognized it from somewhere online, and I walked up to the 4th floor, where things were going well untill they asked me if I understood nihon ika or rika, rikka? Something like that. At that point I was a bit confused and they just said, sorry, no go. Can someone fill me in on what they were asking me?It's possible the guy was asking you "Nihongo ga rikai dekimasu ka?" (Can you understand Japanese)?
Can someone fill me in on what they were asking me?Probably nihon go ga wakurimasu ka.
Do you speak Japanese?
After leaving I walk down the alley and notice a mxy establishment on the right. I recognized it from somewhere online, and I walked up to the 4th floor, where things were going well untill they asked me if I understood nihon ika or rika, rikka? Something like that. At that point I was a bit confused and they just said, sorry, no go. Can someone fill me in on what they were asking me?They likely were asking you if you understand Japanese, or possibly the system in use at that shop. Like "wakarimasu", the word "rikai" also means understand, and the entire question would be akin to "Nihongo ga rikai dekimasuka?" or "Shisutemu ga rikai shimasu ka?"
They likely were asking you if you understand Japanese, or possibly the system in use at that shop. Like "wakarimasu", the word "rikai" also means understand, and the entire question would be akin to "Nihongo ga rikai dekimasuka?" or "Shisutemu ga rikai shimasu ka?"Ah. That's it. Thanks. I understand some, but never encountered "rikai" before. And stupid me, I left my denki jisho at home.
Hi guys,
I've been going to this place lately.
www.genkai-lovers.com
60 min 8000 yen + hotel (2000 yen) = 10, 000.
80 min 10, 000 yen + hotel (2500 or 2800 yen. See below) = 12, 500 or 12, 800 yen.
You can also get 3P for 14, 000. I haven't tried this yet.
Delivery Health CFS with Chinese girls in their mid-twenties. There are two girls there. Rino and Sara (the newer and younger ones) that are Gaijin NG. Here are reports on 4 of the girls that I've been with. I've had great service with them all. I've always gone the 80 minute for 10, 000 yen option. The second time you are with a girl, they add 1, 000 yen, since it counts as "Hon Shimei". This is pretty standard. The tencho was not exactly friendly at first, worried about "size", but he's always been polite. When you are finished with the girl, he always asks to talk to you and thanks you. Also, apparently they don't do reservations very far in advance. I tried a same-day reservation in the morning and he told me to call again in the evening. Recently, he's warmed up to me more. I think I'm the only gaijin customer he has. If you think it will get you some mileage, you can say you are Ken's friend. There are 2 hotels I have used here. One is Cosmos, which is a rental room. 90 min. 2500 yen. The other is Hotel Ai, which is a decent love hotel. 100 min. 2800 yen. The normal price is 3800 yen at this place, but the tencho can get you a 1000 yen discount. He will usually reserve a room for you under the name Sato.
Yuria. Face. 7, Body- 8. Great GFE, tight pussy, decent massage too. Very slender (56 cm) , nice tits. I like slim girls. Unfortunately, she went back to China for awhile.
Marie. Face. 7, Body 6. The best massage of the four I tried. She used to work at a massage place. Very professional. Very nice girl. A little thick in the middle but not fat.
Ayumi. Face. 6, Body 6. The second best massage after Marie. Not a looker, but a nice girl.
Hitomi. Face. 7, Body 8. Great GFE, lots of energy, nice and tight pussy. D-cups. Has a tat on her breasts. Called me "sukebe" when I was banging her. Nice kisser, makes lots of sucking sounds.
Overall, I think this is great value for the money. Been there 6 times, and haven't been disappointed. The girls are not drop-dead gorgeous, but they are better than average, and they are honest and kind.Thanks for the report. This looks a like a great place for the price. I have a few of questions though.
Is this a standard delivery health with no store front and just a phone number?
Do they take your name, or give you a membership card to keep track of your hon-shime stuff?
Does the tencho book you into the hotel (you mentioned he gets you a discount) or do you go yourself?
Also, do the girls run out early at all and how many "plays" do you get for your 80 minutes?
[QUOTE=Ektelontt; 1358416]Thanks for the report. This looks a like a great place for the price. I have a few of questions though.
Is this a standard delivery health with no store front and just a phone number?
Yes.
Do they take your name, or give you a membership card to keep track of your hon-shime stuff?
There's no card. They ask you for a fake name (gimei). I always go by "Ken". The tencho will ask you if you've been with the girl before. The girls collect the money directly at the hotel, and will remember you for sure since they have only one gaijin customer afaik.
Does the tencho book you into the hotel (you mentioned he gets you a discount) or do you go yourself? I normally call 3 times. I call in the evening from wherever I'm at and tell the tencho the girl I want and the time I'll be in Nippori. I call again from Nippori Station to tell him I've arrived, and he confirms the girl is on the way, and that he has been able to get me a reservation at the hotel, and the name it is reserved under (Sato). I call a third time to tell him the room number after I check in. I've never had to wait more than 10 min for the girl to arrive. Hotel Ai is my first choice for the 80-min option, because it's much nicer than the rental room, and only 300 yen more with the discount. On Fridays and Saturdays, sometimes I haven't been able to get a reservation at Hotel Ai, and so I've gone to Cosmos. In that case, I usually meet the girl outside and we enter together, since it's 2500 yen for 90 minutes.
Also, do the girls run out early at all and how many "plays" do you get for your 80 minutes?
The service is very good at this shop. The girls are mature, polite, honest and hardworking. I have learned through experience to double-check the start and finish time with the girl before play begins no matter what shop I use. The second time I was with Marie, we may have left the hotel 3-5 minutes early because I forgot to do this. I usually only go 1 shot, even with 80 minutes, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't unlimited shots. You may want to double-check with the tencho if that's a concern.
Due to a work function I found myself in Ikebukuro at midday on Sunday. I have not visited there for the longest time so did not have any idea where to visit and decided just to take a walk around.
Started at the north exit where many places had a nice A4 already at the door to tell "Japanese only" in English, Chinese and Korean. Visited at least Marin, Max, Idol and Kadoebi and was told the same by apologizing tenchoos.
Found also a big number of massage places with pictures of the service providers in tiny bikinis and with notes "we do not offer sex services". Do they or do they not is unclear but did not want to take the risk so passed these.
Moved then to the east side and was similarly refused in the Mxy shop as well as two others which names I already forgot.
Was not approached by the touts a single time which makes me think the whole are is not gaijin friendly at all. If that is true it is a really pity as I saw several 9's and at least one 10 on their way to work so there must be some good shops around the station too.
Ok, Sorry I take back everything I said before. I went to kabukicho today, and found hinomaru. After being told hana was the only one available and paying 6k yen for 30 mins, I was led to a couch in a darkened room full of couches. Hana was cute in her own way and while not chubby, not slim (6/10). She got me a water and then proceeded to clean my hands and then told me to basically drop'them. So I pull down my pants and shorts and she continues to wipe me down and afterwards drops the straps of her dress and removes her bra and panties. She then lays down somewhat awkwardly on the couch and proceeds to give me one of the best BBBJs I've had, let alone BBBJTCIM. All along the way I'm fingering her and she's starting to get real wet. I was actually trying to reciprocate the favor, but I pop, and then everythings over. She spits, and gets dressed, then cleans me up. Afterwards we chat for the rest of my time, and then she escorts me out of the door and halfway down the stairs. We said our goodbyes and I was on my way.
Actually walking back through kabukicho there were guys offering me FS with "japanese girls" for 15k. I read somewhere that the africans were moving in as a scam, but I didn't see any africans. Anybody ever take them up on it? I'm tempted to tomorrow.Ignore all touts in Kabukicho. Nothing but rip-offs.
Ignore all touts in Kabukicho. Nothing but rip-offs.Yea, I wish you had told me yesterday. So I went back, and figured what the hell. Some guy came up to me and was saying japenese girls and sex, and I told him I don't really speak japanese (even though I do to some extent). That should have been my first clue. But he said it was ok he says come look at some pictures, and I figure at this point, I can just look at the pics. Then he says to follow him, and he leads me just outside kabukicho into the 4th floor of building. This should have been my second clue.
We go in this really small pink door and I sit down while he gets a picture book. I will admit that the pics looked good, and I was thinking with my little head more than the one on my shoulders at this point. I have a moment of clarity and am about to leave so he goes from 25k to 22k for an hour, and I say what the hell, I'll TOFTT and try one. I pay and then I'm escorted to a dimly lit room with a much larger girl in it. Def bait and switch. I'll admit she was japanese, but she def wasn't the girl in the picture. I'm all about to leave at this point, but she's promising good service and I already paid, so I didn't think I was getting it back. I undress and then she leads me to a small shower. I just quickly rinse off because I'm not thinking someone's going through my wallet now, and I'm now back in the room. I lie down and then the upsell begins. She's asking for another 5k for BJ and CFS. I told her I gave the guy all my cash, and it takes her a while to understand this.
Finally she puts on a condom and gives a half hearted CBJ to get me ready. I get mish and she stops me just as I finish (I think she was going to ask for more $$). Anyway, another quick shower thinking about my wallet and then she starts handing me my clothes again (I discreetly checked my wallet, all good) and I'm out of there, no more than 20 mins after I walked in. All in all I wish I went back to Himawari.
Last Friday in Nov, scouted out the Crescent Bldg near Kanda station, as oft mentioned in this forum recently.
It was about 3pm, and was going to just have a look first. Pressed the button for 7th floor, and the door opens right into the front counter with the tencho standing there, and he greets me with "hello". He says in Jpns,"you've been here before, haven't you?" And I just said yes, (even though it was first time).
I took the one hour / 7. 000 course. He escorts me to one of a dozen or so curtained cubicles. Soon an attractive, friendly Chinese woman in her mid-20s shows up.
Took me to the shower first, and stood guard at the shower door, but didn't join in. Then, back at the cubicle, she gave a pretty good massage on my back for about 30min. She says,"I'll go get the oil.
On her return, she starts the HJ. I asked if I can touch her, and she said "no", but I did anyway and she didn't seem to mind, and then lays next to me and sucks on my ear. After the shot, with some of the hour left, she gave me a hand massage.
The things I liked were that the place was clean and new, didn't have that typical car deodorizer smell that is typical such type of establishments in Tokyo, had heavy-duty curtains between the cubicles, and the beds were attractive and reminded me of the some of the more expensive massage joints in Bangkok, with dim lighting and a small lamp on the floor and background music up loud enough to muffle the stroking sounds coming from adjacent booths (although I could hear the chick next door giving her phone number to the guy she was servicing.)
On the way out, the tencho asks if it was good, and I said yes.
One of the more expensive HJs in Asia, but for a gaijin in Tokyo, its a straightforward deal and the girl doesn't try to hustle you for a tip.
Hey Everyone,
Well I usually go to China and Taiwan for business trips and a little fun. But I have always wanted to go to Tokyo for some fun. My questions are:
* Is there any fun clubs / freebee's? Having a hardtime finding anything of the sort in the Tokyp forum?
* Seems like everything is a massage place. I would much rather have room serivice. Is this possible?
* Is Tokyo expensive for the hobby?
I am use to China and TW, those places are easy, as many girls there like americans. So usually not hard to find someone that wants to play. BUt my usual searches are coming up empty. I have tried ww dateinasia and really not much in Tokyo.
I guess what I am asking is, is there a fun scene there? Or do I need to go someplace else in Japan? Please any help will be great!
LoveShibuyaGirls
12-10-12, 23:59
You are lucky you got a Japanese girl, rather than Chinese or Thai.
Yea, I wish you had told me yesterday. So I went back, and figured what the hell. Some guy came up to me and was saying japenese girls and sex, and I told him I don't really speak japanese (even though I do to some extent). That should have been my first clue. But he said it was ok he says come look at some pictures, and I figure at this point, I can just look at the pics. Then he says to follow him, and he leads me just outside kabukicho into the 4th floor of building. This should have been my second clue.
We go in this really small pink door and I sit down while he gets a picture book. I will admit that the pics looked good, and I was thinking with my little head more than the one on my shoulders at this point. I have a moment of clarity and am about to leave so he goes from 25k to 22k for an hour, and I say what the hell, I'll TOFTT and try one. I pay and then I'm escorted to a dimly lit room with a much larger girl in it. Def bait and switch. I'll admit she was japanese, but she def wasn't the girl in the picture. I'm all about to leave at this point, but she's promising good service and I already paid, so I didn't think I was getting it back. I undress and then she leads me to a small shower. I just quickly rinse off because I'm not thinking someone's going through my wallet now, and I'm now back in the room. I lie down and then the upsell begins. She's asking for another 5k for BJ and CFS. I told her I gave the guy all my cash, and it takes her a while to understand this.
Finally she puts on a condom and gives a half hearted CBJ to get me ready. I get mish and she stops me just as I finish (I think she was going to ask for more $$). Anyway, another quick shower thinking about my wallet and then she starts handing me my clothes again (I discreetly checked my wallet, all good) and I'm out of there, no more than 20 mins after I walked in. All in all I wish I went back to Himawari.
I've just found this interesting article today:
http://en.rocketnews24.com/2012/12/10/get-laid-get-paid-japanese-adult-video-company-recruiting-sex-industry-reviewers/
It seems like SOD has decided to help us reviewing fuzoku, and is asking for volunteers to do so!
Seems like the greatest plan ever; but as always, it is only for Japanese.
Anyway, once the database will be available, it could be really helpful.
I had a mixed experience during my three nights stay in Tokyo. Being a huge JAV fan, I was really looking forward for the trip. I was initially planning to venture south after reading about the RLD there. However, I cancelled it in the last minute as I am not so sure if I will be able to find an accommodation close to the area. For the record, I am brown and don't speak Japanese at all except for the three or four pleasantries. So, I am not sure if I could readily find the place without getting proper direction. Hence, for the first night, I stayed in business hotel in Ikebukuro. 2nd night was in Hotel Shiroigawa Shinjuku and 3rd night was in Hotel Wako Shinjuku (tempted to try love hotel as described by some review).
Ikebukuro is the best place to stay IMO compared to Shinjuku. Even though its nightlife is less happening than the later, Ikebukuro does have all the type that Shinjuku offered and better place to roam. I had huge problem pushing away all those black touts hanging around Shinjuku. They just didn't understand the word no. At every junction they will follow me like housefly. I did follow one of them, but it turns out he just took me to an European girls' hostess bar. The cover fee is 4000 yen, but I didn't enter as I already had a great trip to Berlin a few weeks ago. I tried three massage places in Shinjuku, all offered shower, and great massage for around 6000. 8000 yen / hour with HJ additional 5000 yen. Girls are from China and Japan. I didn't take the extra as unfortunately unlike other countries that I have been, the girl won't let me roam their body freely or undress. Other places in Shinjuku are catered to mostly Japanese speaking people. Even if they let you in, you won't enjoy it as the idea was more about teasing and companion, rather than fuck and shoot. If I were to visit again, I would definitely stay in Ikebukuro.
Day after I finished my business meeting, I visited Yoshiwara, the RLD of Tokyo. I took the train to Minowa station and ride a cab to the place. Well this place score average to me compared to other RLD I have been to. It's nothing like Amsterdam or even Geylang. I didn't see any girls on the street. All the streets were lined with dozens of soapland with the touts / doorman smartly dressed outside in the street. The advertised price ranged from 15000. 35000 yen / 120min. Half of them invite me in even though I mentioned that I don't speak Japanese. I approached one of the soapland and was told that the advertised price is just a cover fee and the real price after adding a few more charges goes to triple that amount. Holy shit. I looked into their album and just say that I don't like any of them. Well, some are admittedly cute but I don't think I would pay 90000 yen for a fuck. Well then, they lowered the price to 75000 for A class girl. Looking at the album, the girls in this class does looks like the JAV girls that I dreamt of. However, I quickly declined when I was told that there is 20% surcharge to use credit card. Wow, rip off. So, I went to another soapland. The same rules seem to apply here too. But, it seems that the manager is a bit flexible and asked me what is my price since I said it's too expensive. Taking the previous outlet as reference, I said 50k yen for everything. He straight away agreed. Damn, should have asked for lower amount. Well I did ask, and they lowered only until 45k yen. Well, service wise, I was a bit disappointed as I asked for a slender girl with big breast. The one that showed up is Reisa, chubby and A cup. Face is only 5/10. The room is shabby and worst than a Phuket soapland room. First, she washed me and then straight to bed. Yes, that's it. No slithering on the air mattress, no bath tub session, no massage. But she did give a good fuck. FK all the way. She almost make it raw but I refused and request for cover. She moaned and shivered like a great orgasm front and back. After the session, all the managers lined up and kneeled down saying something in Japanese. Well that boost my ego a bit and so I didn't complain.
My third night was where I fucked up. Staying in love hotel let you watch non stopped JAV channel so my libido peaked again. I was actually looking for the so called Image Club in Shinjuku but can't really find a clue where it is. Maybe it is written in Japanese. This is where I had the big misfortune meeting a Japanese tout with herpes scar under his lip, that offered me Japanese girl for 20k yen to my hotel. I agreed and he took me to a club that require me to pay that money first before entering. Well, I am not paying something I didn't see, and they won't let me see without paying. Fair enough. So I refused. The tout brought me to his friend who showed pictures full of beautiful Japanese. Now it was late and I thought I want to end it quickly. So, I said ok, when suddenly he said the price is 30k yen, to pay upfront. Well the first tout had left, and this second tout keep saying that this is standard for foreigner. Stupidly I obliged and pay. Then, he passed me to his other friend who require deposit of 20k yen. Now, this sounds really funny. I of course refused but also keeping in my mind that he is already holding my 30k yen. I tried to take it back but he refused to give me. I should have stop but at that time I was thinking that maybe I should make the money worth. They keep saying that this is just deposit and will be returned after I finish my session. So I only agreed to pay 10k deposit. The third tout insists that I followed him to his hotel even though the first agreement was to my hotel. Since the first tout is now missing, I just agreed and just keep thinking of making my money worth. He took me to an upstairs hotel, Love Everlasting. The third tout now request another 20k yen to rent the room. I said no as there are already so much that I gave. Once entered the hotel, the manager took me to a lounge. At this point the third tout disappear. The manager request 15k as room rent. Damn, and the earlier touts said that all are in the 30k that I gave earlier. The manager and his buddy now threatening me and I know I am totally trapped now. The tout already nowhere to be seen. So much for being adventurous. The room given was very bad, the size and furniture of a massage room. The manager even warned me that its only for an hour and I have to pay extra if I exceed – I don't plan to stay. Feeling for the worst, I quickly hide my money in my socks as I said that's it. The girl came after 30 min and really the opposite of the photo. Like a drug addict with tattoo on the right leg. Worst, she try to squeeze another 20k from me. I showed my wallet is empty except for a couple of my local currency (worth 5k yen). She suddenly grabbed the money and dash out saying she is looking for condom. I chased her out but the hotel is a maze. At this point the hotel manager came and said that my time is up. This time I am really burned. So, yes everyone, I know I am an idiot. So, no need to tell me twice. Just telling this to let you be aware. Better to lose some, rather than to lose more.
LoveShibuyaGirls
12-13-12, 12:19
All.
Some DH services offer a 3P 2 Guy. 1 Girl option.
It seems natural to me to assume that the 2 Guys would both be customers. That is, you go with a friend and double team girl.
However, since this is Japan you should not assume anything.
Does anybody know if the above is true? Or if you want the 2 Guy. 1 Girl option, does that mean that you and some guy from the shop will double team the girl?
LoveShibuyaGirls
12-13-12, 12:20
Meiji.
I saw on another message board that you are looking for gaijin-OK KDH.
In my experience, Clover and Eve are both gaijin OK.
However, to be honest, I was seriously underwhelmed with the quality of the girls.
I think the benefit of KDH is that you have guaranted BBFS with ND.
LoveShibuyaGirls
12-13-12, 12:23
Pururngang and Milky Baby in this area are both gaijin OK. Although they are not ordinary DH services in that they both feature girls with some unusual physical feature.
To get rejected by that many places, though, I wonder if you were doing something to turn the shops off? Not trying to be rude, just saying. .
You can see some hotass chicks walking around the north exit of Ikebukuro station, on their way to work. None of those Japanese nanpa guys ever seem to bother them either.
Due to a work function I found myself in Ikebukuro at midday on Sunday. I have not visited there for the longest time so did not have any idea where to visit and decided just to take a walk around.
Started at the north exit where many places had a nice A4 already at the door to tell "Japanese only" in English, Chinese and Korean. Visited at least Marin, Max, Idol and Kadoebi and was told the same by apologizing tenchoos.
Found also a big number of massage places with pictures of the service providers in tiny bikinis and with notes "we do not offer sex services". Do they or do they not is unclear but did not want to take the risk so passed these.
Moved then to the east side and was similarly refused in the Mxy shop as well as two others which names I already forgot.
Was not approached by the touts a single time which makes me think the whole are is not gaijin friendly at all. If that is true it is a really pity as I saw several 9's and at least one 10 on their way to work so there must be some good shops around the station too.
You have to speak pretty decent Japanese to book with Milky Baby. My low level Japanese is enough to get me through day to day life, from one end of the country to the other by train and bus, and through dozens of mongering experiences and one night stands, but it wasn't enough for me to book an appointment with Milky Baby.
roy, sounds like you really should have rtff buddy. you probably walked right past 2 dozen hands on peep shows, pink salons, jack shacks, hotel health and delivery health options.
I actually just ran across one of those today on erouto-style. Net (I don't know if that place is gaijin friendly). From the description of the 'reverse 3P' it's 2 customers / one girl, and the total paid is twice as much.
All.
Some DH services offer a 3P 2 Guy. 1 Girl option.
It seems natural to me to assume that the 2 Guys would both be customers. That is, you go with a friend and double team girl.
However, since this is Japan you should not assume anything.
Does anybody know if the above is true? Or if you want the 2 Guy. 1 Girl option, does that mean that you and some guy from the shop will double team the girl?
I recently traveled back to Japan for vacation. During one of my off days I ventured out to get in trouble. I headed to sugamo solo without a working cellphone. Japan does not have a whole lot of free wifi spots so I knew my chances aren't very good. On top to of that, I did not have a map or an accurate address of JanJan. But I was determined to get there.
Upon arriving at sugamo JR station, I wondered the streets near the station and did indeed encounter several service shops but none were called JanJan. There was no tout around so I decided to hop into a manga Internet cafe to check the area out a little bit. After 15 minutes of searching I headed out again to look for a shop that was called flying castle or something. When I arrived at the street, it was under construction. I found the shop in a 2F building. As it happens the basement had a sign that said cosmos (or cosmic) something. An old tout stood outside and approached me. It was 3k for a blowjob. I thought why not, I was pretty tired.
I paid the guy 3k and was led into a room almost completely deprived of light. I wasn't given a choice on the girls. I sat down and wast told to drop my pants. A few minutes later a woman in her late 30s, chubby, and a 3/10 showed up. A little too late to make for the door I thought. So I went on with it. She wiped me down and begun to give me a very decent BBBJ. A few minutes later I came in her mouth. She did the spit on a towel and cleaned me up. As she went to get cleaned up I got dressed and decided to leave. Said bye at the entrance. Funny thing the construction watch guard saw me go in and watched me come out. I stared at him for a few minutes and left.
After leaving sugamo I left for Shinjuku. A brief break at Starbucks, I decided to hit up one more spot and off to Kabukicho I went. Upon arriving kabukicho, I walked directly towards the center square. It seems that the area is under renovation. Not stopping I continued walking until I arrived at Hinomaru. One staff stood outside and waved at me. Asked me if I was looking for Hinomaru. I nodded and was taken in. Paid the 4k due in the front I was able to pick Maria from the photo line up. This was around 2pm on a Wednesday so it was quite empty inside. To my surprise the room was much brighter than previous one. I sat at a couch all the way in the front, Maria showed up a few minutes later. She was slender, perhaps mid 30s and pretty.
I dropped my jeans and she wiped me off and went to work. She gave a very decent BBBJ. While she was working my hands were allowed to go anywhere I wished as she was semi nude and had her panty off. Great experience. Got cleaned up and off back to Chiba to meet up with my wife.
Hinomaru looked like to be in a very old hostess club. Maria had a great personality. Recommended!
. So, yes everyone, I know I am an idiot. So, no need to tell me twice. Just telling this to let you be aware. Better to lose some, rather than to lose more.You may be an "idiot" but at least you are not trying to hide the facts form anyone, and you help others not to make the same mistakes.
Be thanked for that.
I assume you did not have the time to read the forum before your trip, where you would have found quite a lot of info, helping you to avoid those traps.
As regards Yoshiwara, there are upmarket soaplands with the double price system, but many are "standard" price, and the cost is normally less than 30000 yen for low end places, like the one you have been. No wonder the guy happily took your 50000 offer.
Shinjuku; fully agree, not a place to successfully monger, but fun to wander around, strip theaters, pink salons can be fun. But the touts are a nightmare.
Hopefully, you will have a better time next time.
Shinjuku; fully agree, not a place to successfully monger, but fun to wander around, strip theaters, pink salons can be fun. But the touts are a nightmare.I see this said a lot but I never really understand it. I can think of at least 9 shops in Shinjuku including the stuff you just mentioned plus rub and tugs, oppai pubs, delivery health and hotel health.
I see this said a lot but I never really understand it. I can think of at least 9 shops in Shinjuku including the stuff you just mentioned plus rub and tugs, oppai pubs, delivery health and hotel health.It makes perfect sense to me. The barrier to hobbying for the one-time traveller to Tokyo is extremely high compared to someone that is here regularly or lives here. Even IF you exclude the people that don't do their research, get drunk, and then get essentially robbed to the tune of 5 man, you are still talking about people that have the language barrier, the unfamiliarity of the streets and address system, and the lack of a smart phone in order to overcome these or other obstacles. The first time I came to Japan, I thought the area immediately west of Shinjuku station was 3 or 4 times as large as it really is, because I didn't have Google maps. I kept getting lost and disorientated, and the west side of Shinjuku is minuscule compared to the east side.
It's easy to explain to someone how to find Hinomaru if they know Kabukicho and know basic Japanese, because Hinomaru is on the giant marquee in lights, but someone that knows no Japanese and hasn't been to Shinjuku before is going to have a hard time finding the right train exit or place for the taxi to drop them off, much less find that building in Kabukicho. People in that position practically have to plan things out, and then print out maps to guide them. Not many people are going to go through all that effort, given that getting P4P action for many guys is a spur of the moment proposition. And the Nigerian touts take advantage of that.
It's obvious that those guys wouldn't be there, and the Chinese and other providers that whisper 'want massaji? ' at you when you are walking by them near the love hotel area wouldn't be speaking English if they didn't have a market to sell to (or rip off). It's not like if, in a magical world, all the touts and ripoff artists disappeared tomorrow, that foreigners would have no problems getting action in Kabukicho. They'd just wander around, getting ignored by all the tenchos, looking for a needle in a haystack.
IDK man, I've never used a smart phone in Japan. Don't want to pay a deposit for a sim card and realize there is almost no wifi to be found for temporary visitors. Been there about a dozen times, never more than a week at once. Found every single place I ever looked for without a problem. It's pretty simple to find a place online then put the address in Google maps. The exits on the train stations are named or numbered, and the names / numbers show up on Google maps. Just remember or write down the directions. That's what I've always done. I find that Tokyo is one of the easiest non-English speaking cities to navigate in the world.
Anyway, yeah you can get lost anywhere. Some people easier than others I guess. My ex-girlfriend got lost going to the bathroom. I always got fucked up driving on the DC beltway before GPS.
That's fine.
I'm saying I don't understand why so many people seem to say there is nothing but scams on offer in Shinjuku or even Kabukicho. There are 10-12 places there where a gaijin can walk right in and get service. And I've never once been approached by a tout there (I guess I just lucked out? Seems to be pretty common.).
It's probably one of the easier places to find action in Tokyo as a foreigner. At least with such a wide selection. It's nothing like the Fukuoka red light district which is totally off limits to gaikokojin.
I agree with Rick Rock. With all the tools that we have now, you can basically already know the way from the station to a shop before arriving at the station. I mean, imagine what it was like before the internet. Out of the world for any gaijin who doesn't have a Japanese friend already knowing some places.
Nowadays, you can:
- check the home page of almost every shop,
- get the address and even a map,
- know what to expect thanks to forum like this one,
- find your itinenary with Google Maps.
- and virtually walk it without leaving your computer with Street View.
The thing I don't understand is why with so many options out there (even for a gaijin) , one would rely on a tout in the street that comes from nowhere. Going to a (well established) shop is so much safer. For example, when you think about it, when you go to a hotel health, you pay at the shop's desk and they send you to a hotel with nothing else than their guarantee that they will send you a girl. But if something happens (never heard any case) , you can go back to the shop and complain whereas if something goes wrong after being sent to a hotel by some random guy in the street, what can you do?
Had a little walk around the north exit last week-end and I confirm that you can see some real hotties in the area. I even found the Cutie Bomb / Pururungang building just by witnessing several hugely breasted girls walking in the same entrance ("3PM shift just arrived" I thought!). Definitely want to try Pururungang when I have the opportunity.
Little after, a tout standing near Marin with 2 really cute schoolgirls tried to wave me in. I asked him what kind of service it was but didn't understand his answer. First he told me it was a massage place, then it was only talking with the girls. Maybe he just say "massage" as to refer to adult kind of services and then really explains it. It was 5000 yens for 30 minutes but I wasn't going to pay just to talk to girls, however cute they were. If someone know the name of the shop (right next to Marin) and what it's all about, please kindly advise. 10 meters further, after the corner, another tout with a cute schoolgirl too was waving me in too. So from my experience, gaijins can have some action in Ikebukuro.
As I stated previously, I intended to find a good pink salon in Otsuka which has young girls and services foreigners. Unfortunately, it seems like only places with fat / old / ugly ladies accept foreigners in this area. It's such a shame as I found shops that have really cute young Japanese girls but all of them told me over the phone that they don't accept gaijins. Maybe the result would be different by just showing up at the shop but I don't have the time and courage to to this (I like to have everything perfectly planed in advance).
For those who want to try and see, here's the page I used for my research:
http://pinsaro.livedoor.biz/archives/6312814.html
I was particularly interested in Cuel and Cats. If someone has a good shop to recommend I'm all ears as I am tired of Hinomaru (although I still have to try Ayaka but everytime I go she is busy).
A few weeks ago, I decided I needed a good massage after work so I headed to Okachimachi to try Tomato (thanks to the good reports). As I arrived, the tencho told me there was a 40 minutes wait. I wasn't prepare to wait that much so I said I would come back another day and started to go down the stairs. But the tencho told me I could go to Himawari on the 4th floor. Told him that I already went there and that I was really hoping for a good massage with only HE and not for FS. But he convinced me (not to difficult!) saying there was a cute new girl.
So I went upstairs, paid the 10 000 yens for 50 minutes and got Yuka (seems like she's the one that take care of gaijins most of the time). She's a cute young Korean girl with nice boobs and she seens to be really into me but I would say she was quite inexperienced overall. Anyway, still had a good time and to get FS with a young and cute Korean girl for that price, Himawari is the place to beat for me. Still want to try Tomato though.
It makes perfect sense to meAnd me. Kabukicho is physically dangerous, full of people trying to rip you off and the cops are all corrupt.
Several pages back there is a story identical to Roy2920's, touts making promises and getting handed off between multiple people. He is lucky he didn't go into that "European girls' hostess bar" as he would likely have been drugged then extorted of $5000 or whatever they could get on his credit card.
Yeah, you can do your homework here but even then you can get ripped off. A guy going directly to Happy Berry was picked up a tout.
My first mongering in Japan was there and I had a great time with a hot girl and I still go there; but anyone who understates the dangers is doing a disservice to others.
Kabukicho is physically dangerousI'm sorry but I find this absolutely hilarious, this time and the last time I heard it from a girl from Saitamo. Maybe it's because I grew up in a major East Coast US city, but there is absolutely nothing physically dangerous about any place in Japan. The crime rate is so much lower than those of most major cities it's like they exist in different world.
From a quick search:
"Japan experienced 1. 3 robberies per 100, 000 population, compared with 48. 6 for Germany. 65. 8 for United Kingdom, and 233. 0 for the United States; and it experienced 1. 1 murder per 100, 000 population, compared with 3. 9 for Germany. 1.03 for England and Wales, and 8. 7 for the United States that same year."
I have never once for even a millisecond felt unsafe anywhere in Japan. It's probably the safest place I've ever been in the world outside of some old peasant farms in Western Europe.
I mean who is going to do you in? Those effeminate host bar guys who stand around in the streets? Unless you get duped into entering one of those jacked up bill shops. I've never even been approached for one. Hustler's tend to prey on those they think they can get over on.
Really, keep your wits about you and don't be a drunken asshole and you should have no problem. I've never even had a hint of one. Judging by the tens of thousands of people who walk through there each night, including a good helping of drunken Japanese businessmen and obvious know-nothing tourists, I think that's the norm.
If you think Kabukicho is dangerous I'd hate to see how you'd react to some of the other places people monger like Phnom Penh, San Salvador, Santo Domingo or Nairobi.
Anyway, the point is, Shinjuku isn't a bad place for mongering. It has a fairly big concentration of gaijin-friendly places of which most have been reported on this board. Do a little research and enjoy.
As I stated previously, I intended to find a good pink salon in Otsuka which has young girls and services foreigners. Unfortunately, it seems like only places with fat / old / ugly ladies accept foreigners in this area. It's such a shame as I found shops that have really cute young Japanese girls but all of them told me over the phone that they don't accept gaijins. Maybe the result would be different by just showing up at the shop but I don't have the time and courage to to this (I like to have everything perfectly planed in advance).
For those who want to try and see, here's the page I used for my research:
http://pinsaro.livedoor.biz/archives/6312814.html
I was particularly interested in Cuel and Cats. If someone has a good shop to recommend I'm all ears as I am tired of Hinomaru (although I still have to try Ayaka but everytime I go she is busy).Strawberry Club (2000 yen for 2 girl rotation) and the place next to it are the only two I've had any success with. Of course the girls range from decent to horrible in looks.
I wanted to try Cats too. After I brought it up on the forum a few months ago, someone said they tried to enter but got turned away. I tried anyway. Walked in and gave a "Gaikokojin demo daijobu desu ka?" and got a quick "Sumimasen" reply. Combined with the other report and yours, I think it's safe to say this is a no go. After I got drip dick from Strawberry, I stopped exploring.
Someone on another board did report one more place they found in Otsuka but I can't find the post now for the life of me. Sorry.
With the boom going on I would have hoped for more: http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2011/02/03/recession-propelling-impecunious-punters-to-otsukas-pink-parlors/
Egbert Souse
12-14-12, 13:16
Two weeks ago, I went to Happy Berry after reading reports. Chose Risu; got BBBJ and one week later I find I have a form of nongonococcal urethritis, which is basically similar to the clap. Got a dose of antibiotics and am hoping it clears up soon. So be careful guys; I've been mongering for years and have always considered a BBBJ pretty safe, but one always takes a risk. It's condoms for everything for me from now on. And stay away from Risu.
I'm sorry but I find this absolutely hilarious, this time and the last time I heard it from a girl from Saitamo. Maybe it's because I grew up in a major East Coast US city, but there is absolutely nothing physically dangerous about any place in Japan. The crime rate is so much lower than those of most major cities it's like they exist in different world.
From a quick search:
"Japan experienced 1. 3 robberies per 100, 000 population, compared with 48. 6 for Germany. 65. 8 for United Kingdom, and 233. 0 for the United States; and it experienced 1. 1 murder per 100, 000 population, compared with 3. 9 for Germany. 1.03 for England and Wales, and 8. 7 for the United States that same year."
I have never once for even a millisecond felt unsafe anywhere in Japan. It's probably the safest place I've ever been in the world outside of some old peasant farms in Western Europe.
I mean who is going to do you in? Those effeminate host bar guys who stand around in the streets? Unless you get duped into entering one of those jacked up bill shops. I've never even been approached for one. Hustler's tend to prey on those they think they can get over on.
Really, keep your wits about you and don't be a drunken asshole and you should have no problem. I've never even had a hint of one. Judging by the tens of thousands of people who walk through there each night, including a good helping of drunken Japanese businessmen and obvious know-nothing tourists, I think that's the norm.
If you think Kabukicho is dangerous I'd hate to see how you'd react to some of the other places people monger like Phnom Penh, San Salvador, Santo Domingo or Nairobi.
Anyway, the point is, Shinjuku isn't a bad place for mongering. It has a fairly big concentration of gaijin-friendly places of which most have been reported on this board. Do a little research and enjoy.I'll like to add my 2 cents to this debate.
I tend to sit in the middle of the 2 sides of the argument.
When I first went to Japan, about 20 years ago, like you RR, for about a week every year on business, I was absolutely taken by the extent of what the sex industry had to offer. But there was no internet at the time, and my Japnaese was below zero. I used to wander in Kabuchiko, but hardly managed to get into any gaijin friendly shop. Quite by chance, a Japanese tout took me to Hinomaru. My first pink salon, I did not even know it existed. Heaven for a newbie. Then internet started, but not much helpful at the time. I got more often politely denied entry than not. I only managed once an oppai club, Hinomaru, and the massage places like Asian relax. And the strip clubs like TS music and DX, which are nice place to hang aroung and recharge the batteries if required. In the good old days, you could have a lot of fun in DX, with a lot of weird live shows, and intensive audience participation. All gone now, sadly, just for your eyes now.
And I must add that I never felt threatened, except perhaps by some insisting, limit threatening, Nigerian touts. Otherwise, yes, if you behave, Japan is the safest place on earth.
Now that I have visited Tokyo probably more than 50 times, that I speak basic Japanese, and do my homework on Internbet, I find that the best places for getting laid, are not in Shinjuku. I still like occasionnally walk by Kabuchiko, it's fun, but I rarely partake there.
Now, RR, here is the test: I'll love to be wrong, so can you tell us more about the 10-12 gaijin friendly places, list them briefly and let us know what the service is?
Cheers.
PS: I have read your discusions on the BKK thread. I also personnally do not share the enthusiasm that most have on BKK, but I still make a point to stop by there on my way to. Tokyo. 2 days in BKK. 4-5 good fucks for a total cost of less than 300 US is unbeatable. But I get bored after 2 days, while in Tokyo, you never get bored.
And me. Kabukicho is physically dangerous, full of people trying to rip you off and the cops are all corrupt.That wasn't the point I was trying to make, either. My point is more that for many people the Japanese language, culture, and geography is difficult and confusing to the point where hobbying isn't easy for people coming to Japan for the first time, even for people that do a little research.
People need to realize that while Japan is very safe, that doesn't mean that every person you meet is trustworthy. There are extremely safe places in America, too, but I wouldn't hand hundreds of dollars over to ANYONE in ANY service industry without checking online reviews on them first. I hate to add insult to injury, but guys that go out and get drunk and literally get led down a blind alley and hand over large sums of money to a perfect stranger on the hopes that they are going to get some action have no one to blame but themselves.
As for the cops, it's not that they are corrupt. It's that frankly most of them don't give a shit for what goes on beyond the 'offical' red light areas. I've said for a while that Japanese law isn't based on justice, its based on harmony. The people that play by the rules (legal and social) get protected by the police, and they pretty much don't care about everyone else. The nice thing about being a foreigner is they don't really expect you to play by the rules, but this is the downside. If you are screwed over by someone in a back alley promising you a hot piece of ass, the police are going to say 'well, what were you doing in an illegal establishment? '
I'm sorry but I find this absolutely hilarious, this time and the last time I heard it from a girl from Saitamo. Maybe it's because I grew up in a major East Coast US city, but there is absolutely nothing physically dangerous about any place in Japan. The crime rate is so much lower than those of most major cities it's like they exist in different world.I don't live in Tokyo but I visit about once a year and I have to agree with this. I used to live in New York and now live in Los Angeles and Kabukicho is a walk in the park compared to some areas in those cities. I usually stay in Shinjuku and walk around Kabukicho a few times while I'm there. For the most part, no one even looks twice at me other than the Africans who try to lure me into their crappy clubs. About six years ago, I followed one of them into his club and, yeah, I got ripped off to the tune of about 30, 000 yen but that was my own stupidity and not knowing what I was getting into. No one drugged me or stole anything from me. I was just persuaded by a pretty girl stroking my ego (and my crotch) to keep buying overpriced drinks.
On subsequent trips, I usually avoid those guys but occasionally I chat them up and they tell me how lousy business is with foreigners relocating out of Japan. I tell them up front I'm not going into their bars and that I know how the bait and switch system works (I. E, low nomi hodai price for me + expensive watered down drinks for the girls = bulging end of night tab).
I stopped by Hinomaru last weekend in Kabukicho. First time there but not first time in a pink salon. Everyone very welcoming. The girl I chose looked nothing like her photo and she had absolutely no energy or skills. 4000 for 20 minutes or 6000 for 30 minutes.
now, rr, here is the test: i'll love to be wrong, so can you tell us more about the 10-12 gaijin friendly places, list them briefly and let us know what the service is?1. hinamaru. pink salon.
2. new hot point. peep show w / hand job or blowjob after.
3. asian feeling. massage with happy ending.
4. asian relax. massage with happy ending.
5. happy berry. hotel health.
6. oppai / kiss pub. forget the name, about a block from hinamaru; you can find it with a search.
7. body walker princess shinjuku. another oppai / kiss pub in kabukicho.
8. chinese hand job shop. self explanatory, includes long massage, ask me if you want directions.
9. play pen. image club.
10. thong massage. hotel health, call ahead then meet the girl in shinjuku http://0363804426.com/
there are certainly a few others. those are the ten i thought of quickly.
That wasn't the point I was trying to make, either. My point is more that for many people the Japanese language, culture, and geography is difficult and confusing to the point where hobbying isn't easy for people coming to Japan for the first time, even for people that do a little research.
People need to realize that while Japan is very safe, that doesn't mean that every person you meet is trustworthy. There are extremely safe places in America, too, but I wouldn't hand hundreds of dollars over to ANYONE in ANY service industry without checking online reviews on them first. I hate to add insult to injury, but guys that go out and get drunk and literally get led down a blind alley and hand over large sums of money to a perfect stranger on the hopes that they are going to get some action have no one to blame but themselves.
As for the cops, it's not that they are corrupt. It's that frankly most of them don't give a shit for what goes on beyond the 'offical' red light areas. I've said for a while that Japanese law isn't based on justice, its based on harmony. The people that play by the rules (legal and social) get protected by the police, and they pretty much don't care about everyone else. The nice thing about being a foreigner is they don't really expect you to play by the rules, but this is the downside. If you are screwed over by someone in a back alley promising you a hot piece of ass, the police are going to say 'well, what were you doing in an illegal establishment? 'A couple of months ago a good buddy of mine (a long-term, Japanese-proficient, resident of Japan) was royally ripped-off in one of the Nigerian-touted Kabukicho clubs (Disclaimer: I wasn't with him; he told me about it). It was fairly late, after last-train, around 1am or so. He was on his own in Kabukicho and got touted into one of the small clubs by a Nigerian bloke on the street. In the club, he had a few drinks and, as he said, bought 'a couple of ladydrinks' for one of the East-European (Russian?) gals working there. He said he made sure of the price of the drinks with the staff there before ordering, and was there for about an hour and a half. He paid the ¥14, 000 bill with his credit card (big mistake!). Then he hung out elsewhere until first train home in the morning.
All was well until he got his credit card statement later in the month and discovered ¥400, 000 had been charged to his credit card by the club-yes, that's right, ¥400, 000! After he finished gasping and shrieking, he called his bank to see if they would cover the 'fraudulent' bill. No dice-the bank refused to cover it, finding that he had been negligent. He argued with the bank as persuasively as he could, but they wouldn't budge! After a few more phone calls to them, they refused to talk to him any more about the issue.
I'm sure that his case is on the outer limits of kabukicho scams, but it's worth remembering that it can (and sometimes does) happen. Stay away from the Nigerian touts trying to funnel you into their club. The funnel will go up your ass to your pocket, scoop up your wallet, and deposit it straight into their cash register!
Manta Ray
LoveShibuyaGirls
12-15-12, 05:24
The guy who runs Milky Baby speaks English. You should be able to book entirely just in English.
You have to speak pretty decent Japanese to book with Milky Baby. My low level Japanese is enough to get me through day to day life, from one end of the country to the other by train and bus, and through dozens of mongering experiences and one night stands, but it wasn't enough for me to book an appointment with Milky Baby.
LoveShibuyaGirls
12-15-12, 05:30
I don't buy this. .
Two weeks ago, I went to Happy Berry after reading reports. Chose Risu; got BBBJ and one week later I find I have a form of nongonococcal urethritis, which is basically similar to the clap. Got a dose of antibiotics and am hoping it clears up soon. So be careful guys; I've been mongering for years and have always considered a BBBJ pretty safe, but one always takes a risk. It's condoms for everything for me from now on. And stay away from Risu.
This type of credit card scam happens all the time in Roppongi with all the gaijins and tourists. It is never smart to follow a tout anywhere. I simply avoid them, pretend I don't speak English. I even sometimes speak to them in my native Eastern European language so they leave me alone. If I'm with a female the Nigerian touts leave me a lone.
With the Roppongi scam, touts try to gets gaijins into their clubs / bars. Once they get in there they buy a drink. Somehow their drink gets spiked (sometimes even from the bar tender themselves) with some drug. Before you know it the tourist does not remember a thing and next day he finds a huge credit card bill.
This type of scam was even documented on the US Embassy website warning tourists about this scam.
A couple of months ago a good buddy of mine (a long-term, Japanese-proficient, resident of Japan) was royally ripped-off in one of the Nigerian-touted Kabukicho clubs (Disclaimer: I wasn't with him; he told me about it). It was fairly late, after last-train, around 1am or so. He was on his own in Kabukicho and got touted into one of the small clubs by a Nigerian bloke on the street. In the club, he had a few drinks and, as he said, bought 'a couple of ladydrinks' for one of the East-European (Russian?) gals working there. He said he made sure of the price of the drinks with the staff there before ordering, and was there for about an hour and a half. He paid the ¥14, 000 bill with his credit card (big mistake!). Then he hung out elsewhere until first train home in the morning.
All was well until he got his credit card statement later in the month and discovered ¥400, 000 had been charged to his credit card by the club-yes, that's right, ¥400, 000! After he finished gasping and shrieking, he called his bank to see if they would cover the 'fraudulent' bill. No dice-the bank refused to cover it, finding that he had been negligent. He argued with the bank as persuasively as he could, but they wouldn't budge! After a few more phone calls to them, they refused to talk to him any more about the issue.
I'm sure that his case is on the outer limits of kabukicho scams, but it's worth remembering that it can (and sometimes does) happen. Stay away from the Nigerian touts trying to funnel you into their club. The funnel will go up your ass to your pocket, scoop up your wallet, and deposit it straight into their cash register!
Manta Ray
Cougar Cookie
12-15-12, 06:20
I don't buy this. .What antibiotic was prescribed LSG? (Was it the single dose. Add water and shake powder."pancake mix").
YMMV. But I have been pretty unlucky with BBBJ's in Tokyo from from regular nampa girls (never mind sex workers). So I always cap the "eye" or instruct them to stay below thehead while they are working. Less fun in the moment. But better than the worry, frustration, hassle and expense of getting fixed. 99% of women are very happy to comply.
To be totally honest I find it a little difficult to really pity anyone who follows a Nigerian tout (!) in Tokyo (!) anywhere. That's probably just natural selection. A fool and his money, you know? I've never even been approached by one.
The NGU stuff sounds totally plausible to me. Picked up a bug from Strawberry Club over the summer, as did many others as reported both here and on other forums. Some seem to have picked them up in other pink salons. Also had the girl at Jan Jan ask to use a condom for the first time in 30 visits. Good chance something was / is going around. You're talking about women who take 10-20 loads in their mouth in an 8 hour period, mostly from Japanese guys who never wear condoms even with hookers. What do you really expect?
The guy who runs Milky Baby speaks English. You should be able to book entirely just in English.Well I couldn't. Tried to reserve online and by phone. No luck. Got a woman on the phone who only spoke Japanese. I speak some, but not enough to answer all her questions. Called back on three different days. Emailed. Filled a form. Nothing.
Hi guys,
I've been mongering here for awhile, and I can't believe I got duped the other night. Just wanted to pass this along since I wrote a good review of delione. Net a few months back, and I don't want to see anyone here burned. Wednesday night I called them up, asked for Non, and they sent me a chubby girl. I had a good first experience with this provider, and I let my guard down. I gave the money to the driver before looking at the girl (I paid the naming fee) , and in comes a chubby girl, totally different from the picture. It could have been worse. All in all, she gave an ok BBBJCIM, but I would rather have spent my 14k on someone else.
Egbert Souse
12-15-12, 13:33
What antibiotic was prescribed LSG? (Was it the single dose. Add water and shake powder."pancake mix").
YMMV. But I have been pretty unlucky with BBBJ's in Tokyo from from regular nampa girls (never mind sex workers). So I always cap the "eye" or instruct them to stay below thehead while they are working. Less fun in the moment. But better than the worry, frustration, hassle and expense of getting fixed. 99% of women are very happy to comply.It was indeed the "pancake mix" one-shot antibiotic. Had tests and came back neg for gonorrhea and chlamydia, but the doc said it was definitely a form of STD as I mentioned originally. I got it from Risu without a doubt in my mind.
Lurkingdog
12-15-12, 15:47
There are certainly a few others. Those are the ten I thought of quickly.[/QUOTE]I think that you could easily add Himawaru and Tomato in Okachimachi to this list. And also Mugen and the other Kanda Fertile Crescent places. They all seem Gaijin friendly (or they were at least to me)
LD
I think that you could easily add Himawaru and Tomato in Okachimachi to this list. And also Mugen and the other Kanda Fertile Crescent places. They all seem Gaijin friendly (or they were at least to me)
LD
I think Rick was strictly just listing Shinjuku-based places, not all of Tokyo. The Tokyo number is probably 10 times that number when you include all the rub and tug places, 'massage' places that provide full service, other pink salons, delivery / hotel health places, and soaplands, although many of those require some Japanese language ability.
I myself called up a Shinjuku Korean DH place (http://asian-d.com. Only accessible using a browser Japan IP and a browser set to Japanese character set) in the last week or so, and they had no problems sending out a girl (Some Japanese language required, obviously). However, there was only one girl they were willing to send out, and while she was fun and a cool chick (and spoke English very well actually) she wasn't anywhere near advertised, so I can't exactly recommend them.
On a final note, people that follow aggressive touts to places they haven't been before, or their close friends haven't been before, and pay large amounts of cash or turn over their credit cards, are suckers. Sorry.
"Kabukicho is safe because Phnom Penh is more dangerous, if you get into trouble it's because you're naive and stupid."
I think we've heard enough from ignorant people who don't even live in Japan and are oblivious to what really goes on there.
On a final note, people that follow aggressive touts to places they haven't been before, or their close friends haven't been before, and pay large amounts of cash or turn over their credit cards, are suckers. Sorry.Why do you, and others even feel the need to say something like that? Warning people is important but comments like that make you sound like a dick and turn people off being honest about their experiences.
LoveShibuyaGirls
12-16-12, 03:12
Meiji.
Can I ask what you mean by "Japanese character set" on a web browser? I often cannot access KDH webpages and I guess this is why.
I think Rick was strictly just listing Shinjuku-based places, not all of Tokyo. The Tokyo number is probably 10 times that number when you include all the rub and tug places, 'massage' places that provide full service, other pink salons, delivery / hotel health places, and soaplands, although many of those require some Japanese language ability.
I myself called up a Shinjuku Korean DH place (
http://asian-d.com
Only accessible using a browser Japan IP and a browser set to Japanese character set) in the last week or so, and they had no problems sending out a girl (Some Japanese language required, obviously). However, there was only one girl they were willing to send out, and while she was fun and a cool chick (and spoke English very well actually) she wasn't anywhere near advertised, so I can't exactly recommend them.
On a final note, people that follow aggressive touts to places they haven't been before, or their close friends haven't been before, and pay large amounts of cash or turn over their credit cards, are suckers. Sorry.
Why do you, and others even feel the need to say something like that? Warning people is important but comments like that make you sound like a dick and turn people off being honest about their experiences.I guess my comment came over a little sharper than I intended, and for that I apologize.
I just tend to be exceedingly careful when it comes to hobbying. I've TOFTT several times, and gotten burned a few of those times, and shared intel regardless, so I know about embarrassing situations. But I see new stories of people getting robbed or bait and switched by Nigerian touts as a broken record. I don't really consider it valuable information because a) if you read this or other sex forums about Japan, people should know to not even talk to those guys. If you were to create a FAQ about hobbying in Japan, that would be one of the top 5 things mentioned. Be) they aren't identifying anything in particular, either the tout or the venue in question (it's understandable that they probably can't) , and see) they aren't mentioning a solution, either. If they said 'tout robbed me of 50, 000 Yen, I went to the Kabukicho koban and there was a police officer there that spoke fluent English, I calmly explained the situation, filed a report, and got my money back', THAT would be valuable information (none of that would actually happen, of course).
Maybe some day there will be enough foreigners out there, or the Nigerian touts will rob / swindle the wrong guy and the police will crack down on them, but I cynically believe they are just a force of nature and come with the territory. I don't make eye contact and I don't acknowledge their existence, and they eventually get the idea.
Meiji.
Can I ask what you mean by "Japanese character set" on a web browser? I often cannot access KDH webpages and I guess this is why.Yup. So KDH's are very careful about who they want seeing their site, I think primarily because however photoshopped they are, they do really show girl's faces. I guess they don't want that exposure back home in Seoul. Without getting too technical, when you visit a website, all sorts of basic information is passed along: what kind of computer and browser you are using, your IP address, what the acceptable language sets to use are, etc. Google uses this info to magically serve you google. Co. Jp when you are in Japan even if you type in google. Com, as a prime example.
The Korean sites use these to make sure you are their target customer before giving you the page. Otherwise, they will do stuff like say the site is down or redirect you to yahoo. Co. Jp (that's a really popular one). This happens with most of the Uguisudani-based KDHs, and also with the kanphoto. Net site.
You can get around this by changing your preferred character set to Japanese. On my version of Firefox for example, go into Preferences, then Content, then Languages, and add Japanese and move it to the top of the list. While this should have no effect when using websites that only serve one language (ie, English) , you might run into situations where it'll serve you a JP page because Japanese is at the top of your list. If you want to avoid that, install a second browser and change the language settings on that browser instead of your default one.
I'm also not sure if there's a location block or not- I haven't visited the KDH sites when I'm in the US, only when I'm in Japan, but when I enable VPN back to the states, most of the KDH sites go offline at that point. It might be because my language settings aren't getting passed on by the VPN provider. Anyway, hope this helps.
Pururngang and Milky Baby in this area are both gaijin OK. Although they are not ordinary DH services in that they both feature girls with some unusual physical feature.
To get rejected by that many places, though, I wonder if you were doing something to turn the shops off? Not trying to be rude, just saying. .
You can see some hotass chicks walking around the north exit of Ikebukuro station, on their way to work. None of those Japanese nanpa guys ever seem to bother them either.I should have remembered Milky Baby as it has been long time on my list of shops I need to visit. Will make the call when I get to Ikebukuro next time.
The thing is that I was wearing my suit and all and have normally no problems in getting in to shops in other parts of the town. Most of the tenchos just refused me as soon as they saw my white face.
Some of them were very apologizing when they found out I speak the language but still stated they have strict no foreigners rule. I guess Sunday was also not the best time to visit as many of the places seemed to be quite full of local customers. In one place I visited they had the queue out to the stairway with guys reading manga to kill the time.
Lurkingdog
12-16-12, 12:03
Probably everyone who has contributed to the board has some sort of story where, despite their best efforts and research (RTFF, getting PMs, etc.) the experience is far from excellent. I'm happy to report that just the opposite happened to me. I decided that I was in the mood for FS and so I went to Himawari to see if my favorite was there. When I tried to get in (about 3 PM) , the door was locked. Then an older tencho, whom I did not recognize, opened the door and gave me the crossed fingers. I asked in Japanese if they were open or not and he said no. How disappointing. So I decided, what the hell, I wanted release and Tomato was one floor down so I went there. My previous two visits were with girls who were either occupied or not there. So after using the picture book with the tencho, I selected Yuri. And I only chose the 60 minute option. This did not come with Akasuri (which I really didn't need today anyway) but had a nice attended standing up shower and then back to her room for a pretty decent massage. She was quite playful and fun. Thirty minutes in, she told me to flip and went to shower herself. When she came back she started. She actually straddled me and I thought for a moment she was going CG but she just rubbed and stroked. I indicated that I wanted to go into 69 position and she readily accepted except she wouldn't do any significant oral, just licked and stroked but she definitely let me DATY. At about this point, being prepared, I told her I had a condom and she said "great", put it on, and proceeded to give me a very spirited CBJ. As I was enjoying this but wanted to try for more and I asked her to get up on the table and she told me "no sex allowed" and pointed upstairs and said "upstairs okay but not down here". So I guess that answers that burning question about Tomato. After that was established, however, she got on the table, I was treated a little Russian and then a Sumata finish which was heavenly. So while it wasn't FS, it was damn near close and her attitude was great and 2, 000 yen less than the upstairs service. I suspect, YMMV, but I lucked out this time.
LD
1. hinamaru. pink salon.
2. new hot point. peep show w / hand job or blowjob after.
3. asian feeling. massage with happy ending.
4. asian relax. massage with happy ending.
5. happy berry. hotel health.
6. oppai / kiss pub. forget the name, about a block from hinamaru; you can find it with a search.
7. body walker princess shinjuku. another oppai / kiss pub in kabukicho.
8. chinese hand job shop. self explanatory, includes long massage, ask me if you want directions.
9. play pen. image club.
10. thong massage. hotel health, call ahead then meet the girl in shinjuku.
http://0363804426.com/
there are certainly a few others. those are the ten i thought of quickly.ok, i think we have talked cross purposes here. and i don't think there is any disagreement.
i do know, and have been to more than half of the places you mention. thery are indeed fun places, and that is why i saidi like wandering in shinjuku. but asian relax and asian feeling are barely am place where a cloithed women massges you and delivers a hj at the end.
what i meant to say is that for "more" you need to explore other areas, yoshiwara, ueno, some places in yokohama, nippori and others i don't remember, where fs can be had.
back to shinjuku, the two i did not know about are your number 8 and 9. any details about services, providers,"system" and price welcomed.
Really guys? Nothing? I expected a little info.
Hey Everyone,
Well I usually go to China and Taiwan for business trips and a little fun. But I have always wanted to go to Tokyo for some fun. My questions are:
* Is there any fun clubs / freebee's? Having a hardtime finding anything of the sort in the Tokyp forum?
* Seems like everything is a massage place. I would much rather have room serivice. Is this possible?
* Is Tokyo expensive for the hobby?
I am use to China and TW, those places are easy, as many girls there like americans. So usually not hard to find someone that wants to play. BUt my usual searches are coming up empty. I have tried ww dateinasia and really not much in Tokyo.
I guess what I am asking is, is there a fun scene there? Or do I need to go someplace else in Japan? Please any help will be great!
Really guys? Nothing? I expected a little info.Most of these questions and specifics are discussed over in the General Info-Nampa forum (Nampa is Japanese for 'picking up someone of the opposite sex'). Your questions are a bit all over the place, so it's hard to know if you are looking to meet civvies, or pros, or both.
Well I usually go to China and Taiwan for business trips and a little fun. But I have always wanted to go to Tokyo for some fun. My questions are:
* Is there any fun clubs / freebee's? Having a hardtime finding anything of the sort in the Tokyp forum?Yes, there's plenty of bars in Tokyo. Some are obvious places where Japanese women go to meet men (Gas Panic) , some are slightly more subtle (The Hub) , and then there's plenty of upscale places to go if your tastes are a little more refined.
* Seems like everything is a massage place. I would much rather have room serivice. Is this possible?If you are looking for P4P, your English-language choices are pretty limited, mainly to asianmystique. Com or possibly some of the places listed on erolin. Net or maybe hipness. Jp if they have an English-speaking person on staff that day. Japan has a very large P4P industry, and the specific term you are looking for is 'delivery health', but without any Japanese you are going to have a tough time booking.
* Is Tokyo expensive for the hobby?Compared to China and Taiwan, yeah, I'm sure it is. Compared to the States or the UK, there's some places that are much more expensive, others that are less expensive. Japan has agencies that provide innumerable types of service, and options within those services, from costume play to pregnant women to transvestite soaplands. You can get 40 minutes of GFE FS with a Thai girl at Hipness for 7000 yen (plus hotel or transport costs). You certainly can't get that anywhere in the US at that price. Then again you can spend upwards of 80000 Yen for 90 minutes at a soapland. It's based on quality and the experience.
I am use to China and TW, those places are easy, as many girls there like americans. So usually not hard to find someone that wants to play. BUt my usual searches are coming up empty. I have tried ww dateinasia and really not much in Tokyo.
I guess what I am asking is, is there a fun scene there? Or do I need to go someplace else in Japan? Please any help will be great!Many Japanese women like Americans a lot. I think the places to look for civvie Japanese women are on japancupid, worldfriends, or the metropolis classifieds. I don't think it's nearly as much like shooting fish in a barrel as it used to be, but especially if you are fine with older women, there's lots of Japanese women in their 30s and 40s looking for attention. I'd suggest reading more of the posts here, and in the Nampa forum, because they contain a wealth of info. Happy hobbying.
Thanks for the info and sorry I wasnt more clear.
You did have some good info, I guess I am mainly looking for 2 things.
1. Local freebies, I think you called them Civvis, more interested in younger Civvies.
2. Would either be soapland, as I have never been and they look great or a bar where you can pick up a young girl for the night.
I will keep searching the forums. But I guess my biggest question was / is if Tokyo is a fun place to go for "fun"
Like I said I know TW really well and it is pretty easy to find freebies there.
Most of these questions and specifics are discussed over in the General Info-Nampa forum (Nampa is Japanese for 'picking up someone of the opposite sex'). Your questions are a bit all over the place, so it's hard to know if you are looking to meet civvies, or pros, or both.
Yes, there's plenty of bars in Tokyo. Some are obvious places where Japanese women go to meet men (Gas Panic) , some are slightly more subtle (The Hub) , and then there's plenty of upscale places to go if your tastes are a little more refined.
If you are looking for P4P, your English-language choices are pretty limited, mainly to asianmystique. Com or possibly some of the places listed on erolin. Net or maybe hipness. Jp if they have an English-speaking person on staff that day. Japan has a very large P4P industry, and the specific term you are looking for is 'delivery health', but without any Japanese you are going to have a tough time booking.
Compared to China and Taiwan, yeah, I'm sure it is. Compared to the States or the UK, there's some places that are much more expensive, others that are less expensive. Japan has agencies that provide innumerable types of service, and options within those services, from costume play to pregnant women to transvestite soaplands. You can get 40 minutes of GFE FS with a Thai girl at Hipness for 7000 yen (plus hotel or transport costs). You certainly can't get that anywhere in the US at that price. Then again you can spend upwards of 80000 Yen for 90 minutes at a soapland. It's based on quality and the experience.
Many Japanese women like Americans a lot. I think the places to look for civvie Japanese women are on japancupid, worldfriends, or the metropolis classifieds. I don't think it's nearly as much like shooting fish in a barrel as it used to be, but especially if you are fine with older women, there's lots of Japanese women in their 30s and 40s looking for attention. I'd suggest reading more of the posts here, and in the Nampa forum, because they contain a wealth of info. Happy hobbying.
LoveShibuyaGirls
12-17-12, 00:41
Well, Japanese people have kicked out their old government, and one of the stated goals of the new government is to kick-start the Japanese economy by weakening the yen.
Lets assume for a second that the Japanese government successful is in strengthening the economy (I do not care if weakening the yen will do that or not. Lets just assume they do it somehow).
Do you think that will hurt the opportunities for foreigners in P4P?
LoveShibuyaGirls
12-17-12, 00:43
Go to Roppongi for freebies.
If you tell us a little more about yourself (eg age, ethnicity) we can tell you exactly which bar to go to.
Thanks for the info and sorry I wasnt more clear.
You did have some good info, I guess I am mainly looking for 2 things.
1. Local freebies, I think you called them Civvis, more interested in younger Civvies.
2. Would either be soapland, as I have never been and they look great or a bar where you can pick up a young girl for the night.
I will keep searching the forums. But I guess my biggest question was / is if Tokyo is a fun place to go for "fun"
Like I said I know TW really well and it is pretty easy to find freebies there.
Do you think that will hurt the opportunities for foreigners in P4P?Good question.
Weakening the Yen in any serious fashion will be a kick in the balls to westerners that get paid in Yen. The first time I came to Japan in the mid 2000s it was about 120 Yen/$ and now it's 80 Yen/$, so dropping it back to that value would mean someone's wages getting dropped by a third in foreign buying power. For foreigners coming over here, it would be pretty nice, though. An expensive Yen means travel, hotel, food, and sex are all more expensive.
If the economy actually improves due to a weaker Yen, you might see places that previously welcomed foreigners go back to their 'gaijin dame' ways. More guys and companies will have money to spend on women, more women will be able to get legit jobs, or higher class escort jobs and the supply of talent will dry up a bit. However, I think the improvement in the economy simply due to a weaker Yen is an open question- Japan has much bigger problems than simply becoming more export-friendly. Japan simply can't be the manufacturing powerhouse they used to be.
It's certainly possible if the Yen weakens quite a bit AND the economy doesn't improve much, P4P is going to be very good for foreign travelers and / or there's going to be even more Japanese women looking to shack up with a professional foreign guy so that her financial future is secure.
What I meant to say is that for "more" you need to explore other areas, Yoshiwara, Ueno, some places in Yokohama, Nippori and others I don't remember, where FS can be had.My only point was that Shinjuku is not a "terrible place for mongering" like some people say.
Back to Shinjuku, the Two I did not know about are your number 8 and 9. Any details about services, providers,"system" and price welcomed.8. Chinese hand job shop.
Don't know the name of this place. Got the location from another forum, totally legit.
Here's the map: http://goo.gl/maps/phYrS
It's on the third floor.
Straight forward. Chinese girls give a good massage with HE finish. I went for a long course of 90 minutes plus assisted shower. Go HE in the shower, then a nice wash down, dried off and nice rub down, then another HE, then face massage. At 14000 yen it wasn't cheap, but a good experience nonetheless.
9. Play pen is an image club.
Only used it once. My girl was very hot and had a lot of fun. Almost every picture I saw was of a hot young girl. Some had big tits for Japanese.
http://www.eye-beam.com/
Price varies wildly as they have something like 15 different services from regular handjobs to footjobs to them using a tenga on you to two girls getting you hard then making a sketch portrait of your dick with a pad and paper (seriously).
You have to call from Shinjuku station for directions. At the place you pick a girl. Then you go together to a love hotel to do the deed.
Well, Japanese people have kicked out their old government, and one of the stated goals of the new government is to kick-start the Japanese economy by weakening the yen.
Lets assume for a second that the Japanese government successful is in strengthening the economy (I do not care if weakening the yen will do that or not. Lets just assume they do it somehow).
Do you think that will hurt the opportunities for foreigners in P4P?Depends if you are paid in JPY or foreign currency. I'm paid in foreign currency so it would be good for me.
Wow, never heard of that before but even me using a Japanese ISP, got my locales set to Japanese, my non-Unicode set to Japanese I still could not access the site. Then just adding Japanese to Firefox and straight into the site.
I myself called up a Shinjuku Korean DH place (
http://asian-d.com
Only accessible using a browser Japan IP and a browser set to Japanese character set) in the last week or so, and they had no problems sending out a girl (Some Japanese language required, obviously).
Well, Japanese people have kicked out their old government, and one of the stated goals of the new government is to kick-start the Japanese economy by weakening the yen.
Lets assume for a second that the Japanese government successful is in strengthening the economy (I do not care if weakening the yen will do that or not. Lets just assume they do it somehow).
Do you think that will hurt the opportunities for foreigners in P4P?I guess you earn in yens. For us, visitors, weakening the yen increases the mongering power of our £, &. Comopared to last January, I will get about 12% more yens for my buck, as of today.
My only point was that Shinjuku is not a "terrible place for mongering" like some people say.
8. Chinese hand job shop.
Don't know the name of this place. Got the location from another forum, totally legit.
Here's the map:
http://goo.gl/maps/phYrS
It's on the third floor.
Straight forward. Chinese girls give a good massage with HE finish. I went for a long course of 90 minutes plus assisted shower. Go HE in the shower, then a nice wash down, dried off and nice rub down, then another HE, then face massage. At 14000 yen it wasn't cheap, but a good experience nonetheless.On this point, totally agree with you that shinjuku is not a terrible place to monger, it is actually fun, and a lot to do and enjoy.
The Chinese place: any difference as compared to Asian relax / Feeling? Gilrs naked? Can touch? When you say "legit", I guess you mean " no FS".
Thanks
LuvEmSmall
12-17-12, 12:38
I am traveling to Tokyo on Jan 3 and am super interested in an aspect if the Japaneese scene that I have never seen anywhere else and hoping somebody can help. I am every bit into.
Lactating girls. And I hear about "milk bars" or something of the like. I know I am a newbie here but a regular contributor on a forum from.
In the states. Can somebody tell me if there is such a thing as a place that has lactating girls to be with and how I can locate them? Cost is not that important but that being said I am not s millionaire! Yet
On this point, totally agree with you that shinjuku is not a terrible place to monger, it is actually fun, and a lot to do and enjoy.
The Chinese place: any difference as compared to Asian relax / Feeling? Gilrs naked? Can touch? When you say "legit", I guess you mean " no FS".
ThanksBy legit I mean that they can actually give you a good massage. They were trained well. You would go for a massage like this if you had muscle pain or stress. The HE is a bonus.
Not much different than AR or AF really. Some very hot young girls and some decent middle aged ones. The HE is done very well, slow and erotic. They don't get nude, but I had no problem with OTC roaming. Really I like to sit back and take it as it goes though, so more hands on guys may get more.
Gaijin Baka
12-17-12, 17:48
By legit I mean that they can actually give you a good massage. They were trained well. You would go for a massage like this if you had muscle pain or stress. The HE is a bonus.
Not much different than AR or AF really. Some very hot young girls and some decent middle aged ones. The HE is done very well, slow and erotic. They don't get nude, but I had no problem with OTC roaming. Really I like to sit back and take it as it goes though, so more hands on guys may get more.Maybe not the smartest question I can ask, but what does HE and OTC mean? Checked the forum FAQ before asking as it doesn't appear on the list.
I am traveling to Tokyo on Jan 3 and am super interested in an aspect if the Japaneese scene that I have never seen anywhere else and hoping somebody can help. I am every bit into.
Lactating girls. And I hear about "milk bars" or something of the like. I know I am a newbie here but a regular contributor on a forum from.
In the states. Can somebody tell me if there is such a thing as a place that has lactating girls to be with and how I can locate them? Cost is not that important but that being said I am not s millionaire! YetHave not been there myself, but check a few pages back and look for info on Milky baby.
Others may well comment in more details, but I am not sure that it easy for a non japanese speaking gaijin to get this kind of service.
By legit I mean that they can actually give you a good massage. They were trained well. You would go for a massage like this if you had muscle pain or stress. The HE is a bonus.
Not much different than AR or AF really. Some very hot young girls and some decent middle aged ones. The HE is done very well, slow and erotic. They don't get nude, but I had no problem with OTC roaming. Really I like to sit back and take it as it goes though, so more hands on guys may get more.Thanks, that confrms my views. I go to Shinjuku when I have some time to kill, (can't fuck all day) , so wander around, spend some time in a strip theater, possibly a visit to an oppai bar, to get the horninsess back, and get either in Hinomaru for quick release, or possibly a massage place for destressing and Hand release.
When I have less time and need more, I go elsewhere.
That is why I like Tokyo, it has all sort of offerings.
Go to Roppongi for freebies.
If you tell us a little more about yourself (eg age, ethnicity) we can tell you exactly which bar to go to.Hey Sorry, I am 40 years old, white american and would love to meet younger fun girls. Freebies or Civvies would be best. If there are any areas around Tokyo I guess that would work as well. Thanks again for the help. And if anyone needs help in TW, please feel free to ask!
Yup. So KDH's are very careful about who they want seeing their site, I think primarily because however photoshopped they are, they do really show girl's faces. I guess they don't want that exposure back home in Seoul. Without getting too technical, when you visit a website, all sorts of basic information is passed along: what kind of computer and browser you are using, your IP address, what the acceptable language sets to use are, etc. Google uses this info to magically serve you google. Co. Jp when you are in Japan even if you type in google. Com, as a prime example.
The Korean sites use these to make sure you are their target customer before giving you the page. Otherwise, they will do stuff like say the site is down or redirect you to yahoo. Co. Jp (that's a really popular one). This happens with most of the Uguisudani-based KDHs, and also with the kanphoto. Net site.
You can get around this by changing your preferred character set to Japanese. On my version of Firefox for example, go into Preferences, then Content, then Languages, and add Japanese and move it to the top of the list. While this should have no effect when using websites that only serve one language (ie, English) , you might run into situations where it'll serve you a JP page because Japanese is at the top of your list. If you want to avoid that, install a second browser and change the language settings on that browser instead of your default one.
I'm also not sure if there's a location block or not- I haven't visited the KDH sites when I'm in the US, only when I'm in Japan, but when I enable VPN back to the states, most of the KDH sites go offline at that point. It might be because my language settings aren't getting passed on by the VPN provider. Anyway, hope this helps.Great tip Meiji.
I was always wondering why I wasn't able to access a lot of KDH website and was always redirected to yahoo.
Just had to add Japanese to my preferred language list, didn't need to move it on top of the list, and it worked.
Thank you.
I'm not sure why, perhaps it's because I once posted information about a Pocha shop in Shibuya, but in the past few days I have received a couple of different pm's regarding how to locate p4p places that have large or large-breasted women. Two websites I know of are:
www.ho-love.com
www.r18navi.com
For the first link, scroll down two-thirds of the way on the splash screen and answer, yes, to the question,"Do you like plump women at least 18 years of age." Once you click yes, the website will spawn a new page and using the scroll bar on the right-hand side of the page you will find four columns of "businesses" listed by region. For the second link simply click on the large green button. If you use Google Chrome or some other browser which can be configured to auto-translate pages into English you'll make searching those sites a bit easier. I'm a particular fan of the second link (r18navi) since the site allows you to set many specific parameters when you are searching for a particular "provider" (I. E. Height / size / cost / location / service type, etc). Happy hunting
To be totally honest I find it a little difficult to really pity anyone who follows a Nigerian tout (!) in Tokyo (!) anywhere. That's probably just natural selection. A fool and his money, you know? I've never even been approached by one.Just to clarify here. I bailed out from the Nigerian tout after he showed me his club, kind of like girls' bar. Didn't pay a cent to him nor the club. I just walked out of it. I met the Japanese tout later on who initially brought me to a Japanese club. When I refused that club, only then he took me to other Japanese tout that cheated on me.
Well, I am being honest here for my record and also so others could avoid the same incident. Since the forumers here are not really interested in it, maybe next time, I should only report successful and positive stories instead.
Maybe not the smartest question I can ask, but what does HE and OTC mean? Checked the forum FAQ before asking as it doesn't appear on the list.Happy Ending, this one is definitely defined. OTC must mean over the clothes or something like that?
PorkLobster
12-19-12, 09:39
Great tip Meiji.
I was always wondering why I wasn't able to access a lot of KDH website and was always redirected to yahoo.
Just had to add Japanese to my preferred language list, didn't need to move it on top of the list, and it worked.
Thank you.Second that!
This has been vexing me for ages and I've googled around a lot for a solution to no avail. Since I always could access the problematic sites with Internet Explorer, I thought it was some kind of bug in Firefox, but as they say, it isn't a bug, it's a feature! Now everything works smoothly.
Once again, huge thanks, Meiji!
Maybe not the smartest question I can ask, but what does HE and OTC mean? Checked the forum FAQ before asking as it doesn't appear on the list.Since you're baka it's understandable. The previous poster was right. Next time maybe try Google for questions you can answer on your own in a matter of seconds.
HemanInJapan
12-19-12, 16:40
I was looking for a massage place with more than a HJ but not so "hard" as FS. After reading some good reviews, I chose "Tomato" near Okachimachi station. I paid Y11. 000 for the 80 minutes akasuri plan and, though didn't have the option of doing a "shimei", got a very pretty korean provider. I'm sorry I can't remember her name, but she is easily the prettiest provider I ever had (9/10) , with a nice slender body, good boobs and a kawaii face.
The Akasuri and massage part went as related in other reviews. The "ecchi" part consisted in a "zenshin lips" (near but not going to the "intersting" parts and finishing in a nice hand job with both naked on the bed. I also could touch her without any problem (I hate the massage places you can't).
A very nice experience for me, I will surely go again.
Since you're baka it's understandable. The previous poster was right. Next time maybe try Google for questions you can answer on your own in a matter of seconds.You've learnt a Japanese word? That's nice, be sure to use it many times so you don't forget. Baka, baka, baka.
Since you're baka it's understandable. The previous poster was right. Next time maybe try Google for questions you can answer on your own in a matter of seconds.One thing that perplexed me for awhile is how to SEARCH the forums in vBulletin. It is almost instinct to put something in the upper right search box of the web page. But, if you do that it searches the entire database. Clicking Advanced Search doesn't help, either. You need to use the pull down button "Search Thread" to get relevant searches from the threads. I NEVER use the search feature at the top right of the screen anymore. It's useless.
Hi guys,
I have a positive and negative report for fueiho. Net (Konchan no mise) in Ikebukuro. The second experience was so bad that I will not repeat at this shop.
An. Face: 6, Body 6, Service 7. She doesn't look Japanese but I didn't detect an accent. Said she was 32 and born in Adachi Ward. Quite short. Thicker in the middle than her pictures on the site indicate, but not fat. She agreed to FS. At first she only wanted to do mish, but agreed to doggie later. Only 8000 yen for 60 minutes.
Imanaka. Huge bumps on and around her left elbow. Told me she has a bad kidney and is getting treatment. She seemed nice so I wished her well and made a quick exit. She was not the girl you see in the picture.
ILikeCandy69
12-21-12, 01:57
I am going to Tokyo for a month and I am looking to soak up some local culture. I have been to Tokyo before, I lived there for a year, so I know how this industry works. I would like some advice on some specific experience that I am looking for.
I would like to know of a Deli / Health in Shibuya. I know the hotel I want to go to already. I am also looking for a SoapLand, it can be any where within Tokyo.
Since I am considered a Green Monkey / Gaijin / Foreigner in Japan, the Health and SoapLand have to welcome that. Also, for the health, I would like spend the night and have anal, with the petitest, cutest J-Girl I can. You know around 152 cm. 45 kg. She doesn't have to speak that much English.
Yes I know about Asian Mystic. But they are not that attractive and they are that expensive. Deli is usually cheaper. And hopefully hotter.
Thanks in advance
Lurkingdog
12-21-12, 14:54
Was still in the mood for FS so I went back to Himawari (Okachimachi). I didn't realize it but there is a nomination fee if you choose to go that route of 1, 000 Yen. I asked for Yuka as I have had her several times and I wanted to try for two shots on goal. Didn't quite get there due to lack of time but if I had paid for more than their 50 minutes offering, it would have been a done deal. Total damage 10, 000 + 1, 000 nomination (in retrospect, there were only 2 girls working and the other one was busy so I would have had Yuka anyway).
LD
LoveShibuyaGirls
12-22-12, 02:03
Dear Mr. Cheap-aass.
Hahaha you get what you pay for.
If you don't mind girls who are a little bit heavy, then you should try love chanko in Shibuya.
www.love-chanko.com
For 10, 000 JPY, you can get 60 minutes with a young J chick. The shop will tell you that there is no FS, but I have found BBFS to be availabe each time.
Hi guys,
I have a positive and negative report for fueiho. Net (Konchan no mise) in Ikebukuro. The second experience was so bad that I will not repeat at this shop.
An. Face: 6, Body 6, Service 7. She doesn't look Japanese but I didn't detect an accent. Said she was 32 and born in Adachi Ward. Quite short. Thicker in the middle than her pictures on the site indicate, but not fat. She agreed to FS. At first she only wanted to do mish, but agreed to doggie later. Only 8000 yen for 60 minutes.
Imanaka. Huge bumps on and around her left elbow. Told me she has a bad kidney and is getting treatment. She seemed nice so I wished her well and made a quick exit. She was not the girl you see in the picture.
LoveShibuyaGirls
12-22-12, 02:05
OK, so if anybody manages to find a KDH taht is gaijin OK please post about it here.
Second that!
This has been vexing me for ages and I've googled around a lot for a solution to no avail. Since I always could access the problematic sites with Internet Explorer, I thought it was some kind of bug in Firefox, but as they say, it isn't a bug, it's a feature! Now everything works smoothly.
Once again, huge thanks, Meiji!
OK, so if anybody manages to find a KDH taht is gaijin OK please post about it here.
Caveat: Before anyone asks, I don't think there's ANY KDH places that have English-speaking operators. I would say that my Japanese is fair to poor. I can come up with questions to ask on the phone, and my listening is usually good enough to pick up key words / phrases on the phone, like 'dekinai' or 'nanjikan', etc. For the patient phone operator, I can make appointments in Japanese, but for those unwilling to repeat themselves a few times, or deal with non-native speakers, it's a recipe for frustration for both of us. Any communications listed below were done in Japanese, not English.
My main reason for seeking out KDHs is I'm looking for relatively young eye candy with pretty much guaranteed FS for a reasonable price. I don't much care if they are *actually* 19 or 20 as long as they have a cute face and are slender. I haven't gone out of my way to try a bunch of KDHs because getting out to Uguisudani is a pain in the ass for me, and if I book without identifying myself as a foreigner and they refuse service when they show up I'm out the time and money for the hotel, etc.
I asked the guy that runs http://kanphoto.net -- which seems to be very closely affiliated with many of the Ugu KDHs, if not run by the same org, if foreigners were okay at the KDH places he lists, and his response was basically 'Yeah, we've heard that there's been a lot of foreigners lately.", which is sort of a noncommittal response probably meant more as a lament than a green light.
Of the places I've called so far:
Asian Girl (http://asian-d.com. In Shinjuku) appears to be Gaijin OK for some girls as long as you have enough JP skills to book a girl. The girls I requested weren't 'available' (probably Gaijin NG) , but I wanted an afternoon appointment (mainly thinking that booking earlier in the day during the slow times would increase my chances of success). The girl they sent me (Yujin) spoke conversational English, gave me GFE CFS and wasn't unattractive, but she wasn't the young eye candy I was expecting from a KDH.
I called Evian (http://eviandh.com/) a few times because there was a super-cute (at least from her pictures) spinner there named Spoon that I wanted to see. She's not at Evian anymore, but there's some pics:
http://kanphoto.net/archives/18436675.html
http://kanphoto.net/archives/19649988.html
First time I called them and asked if Spoon would see foreigners, I think they were a little taken aback, and said no. Next time I called a week or two later I didn't identify myself as a foreigner and (I'm pretty sure) they said she wasn't available till later in the week. After that point, she was the only girl left at her org, so I wasn't going to take the chance.
I don't know how many more KDHs I'll try due to the aforementioned distance, and because if the girl pushes for the so called 'high class' course. Which from what I've heard is actually just an outlandishly large tip. It's really not that cost-effective to see them.
Dear Mr. Cheap-aass.
Hahaha you get what you pay for.Hey LSG,
LOL, ain't that the truth. Most of the time, you don't even get that. Thanks for the tip. I'm looking for slim girls, and am resigned to paying 14k+ now for Japanese.
Sorry I can't help you with the KDH, at least not in Tokyo. www.genkai-lovers.com If you are interested in Chinese takeout. I'm not in the market for BBFS, but Hitomi offered to do it for a 2000 yen tip when she saw my wedding ring.
Backtobasics
12-22-12, 09:13
Dear Mr. Cheap-aass.
Hahaha you get what you pay for.
If you don't mind girls who are a little bit heavy, then you should try love chanko in Shibuya.
www.love-chanko.com
For 10, 000 JPY, you can get 60 minutes with a young J chick. The shop will tell you that there is no FS, but I have found BBFS to be availabe each time.I do love a bit of chanko.
I notice their map is on the site. Is it as easy as walking in the door, or should one call first?
I'm thinking of making a trip out to the Nippori / Ueno area where Himawari and Genkai Lovers (http://www.genkai-lovers.com/top/) is located.
I was curious if anyone has a winning argument for me to try one over the other.
Thanks
PorkLobster
12-22-12, 11:00
ok, so if anybody manages to find a kdh taht is gaijin ok please post about it here.i have tried at least 20 kdh girls over the past two years and being a gaijin has rarely been a problem, but then my japanese is much better than the mama-sans'.
first of all, however, some more caveats.
kdh is a world of its own and different rules apply. it is also very much a hit-or-miss affair, but i usually have had a very good time.
there are several excellent japanese forums on the topic, and i would seriously suggest that you spend a couple of days (or weeks, even) reading their faqs and the posts so that you know what to expect, where to go, and which places to avoid. if your japanese is not up to it, you are very likely to be disappointed if not actually ripped off. you also won't be able to make a booking over the phone. you might find something in one of the booths in uguisudani, but probably not the girls you had in mind. actually, you probably had better go somewhere else.
the shops change their names all the time, some have several fronts for the same girls, some are excellent and some are rip-off joints. again, the forums are the best way to stay up to date.
the girls also change at the speed of lightning. most are here on tourist visas and stay a maximum of three months, but some are here only for a week. some suddenly change their names or move to another shop. last month's data are not of much use.
the photoshopping can be absurd, but differs between shops. the movies usually give a better clue, but magic can be done with makeup and lighting too. if the girl that shows up looks nothing like her pictures (or if it is the wrong girl) , you are allowed to cancel for free, although i've personally never done that.
popular girls often have to be booked several days in advance. popular girls also tend to work far, far too much, and may be dead beat by the time it's your turn. ymmv considerably.
all the places cost the same. the vip courses or whatever are just scams. some shops offer discounts for longer courses, but be aware that the discount is frequently drawn from the girl's share, which of course is a way of getting off on the wrong foot.
as for the standard of the service, it varies hugely. it is not at all like the japanese places where a certain level is guaranteed and certain items are included. for kdh, there are no guarantees at all, and you have nowhere to complain if things aren't quite what you expected. some girls will just lie there unresponsive like dutch wives, while others are amazing sex fiends. the 80 minute option includes one round of fs. if you want two rounds, you need to take one of the longer options. bb is quite common, but it depends on the shop and the girl and yourself. some girls will ask you to use a condom, and some will insist. and of course, some will insist on using condoms with gaijin only.
the girls' japanese and english language abilities also vary a lot, but don't expect too much. many of them carry language textbooks or have sophisticated translation software in their smartphones, and are friendly and eager to make conversation in some way. others won't say a word, and those 80 minutes can become very long.
so far, so good. now for the gaijin problems. my japanese is fluent, and i've stopped asking whether gaijin are ok, so i've only been turned down over the phone twice when it became evident anyway. it has also happened a few times that the girl was shocked to find that the customer was a gaijin, and after calling to their mama-san, politely excused themselves. (most girls don't bat a lid, and some are even excited.) once, the mama-san immediately sent another girl, who was perfectly ok. once, another mama-san convinced the girl to stay, which turned out to be a bad idea as she obviously wasn't in the mood. once i had to quickly find somebody else by myself. so, one important rule is to always have a backup plan and a couple of other phone numbers to call.
but rule number one, really, is to keep reading the japanese forum posts for a while to avoid disappointment as far as possible. good luck!
Copenhagen
12-22-12, 12:48
Thanks to the field report filed by Lurkingdog (see below) I decided to visit this MILF place since it seems way too expensive or almost impossible for us foreigners to monger otherwise in Tokyo. Also the the map link:
http://goo.gl/maps/qpagq
posted by Taratata was extremely helpful for finding my way to New York New York 2 days ago. Saving the google map pin to a private map of my own makes it possible to use my android phone as a gps and that way avoid getting lost or losing my sense of direction when exiting the subway.
The sister place with very similar service is found round the corner to the left when you stand out side NYNY and face NYNY. It's less than 25 meters away. And I can confirm that NYNY is no longer green but pink as reported elsewhere.
My visit mirrored very much the experience described by Lurkingdog below. With a few extemptions which are:
I paid the 9800 up front to the cashier.
The guy who spoke a bit of English asked me to wait for 5 minutes. Which turned out to be a precise estimate.
The girl was presented as June. But from the pictures on the web
http://www.newyork2.jp/pf/top.php
I'm pretty sure she is (also) called Misora (same dress and body proportions). She said she was 33 and I believe her on that. Nice and firm rack quite big for an asian. Service great and we laughed a lot. Her English was very very limited. Sign- and body language works fine though. CIM after 35 minutes. So total time ended up very close to the 50 minutes. I don't know about water bills here in Tokyo. A lot of water was spend on my visit.
The place is pretty small though. And there are windows in each door so you can see other naked men getting a massage. I guess the windows are also for safety for the girls. Everything takes place in the same same room, so you don't have to part with your belongings at any time.
I enjoyed my visit. And can recommend the place.
I decided after reading the board to try New York New York. I had a somewhat difficult time finding it from the map as I couldn't get a good one in English but finally found it after wandering around the Ueno area for awhile. I came in and was greeted by a large man in a suit and an older lady took my 10, 000 yen note and gave me 5, 200 yen back. I was puzzled but went along with it. I was in the waiting room for a little while (I had in my mind chosen "Hana" from the website, which claimed she was working but when I inquired, I was told she was on "Yasumi" (vacation?) so I am not placing a lot of stock on the scheduled pictures on the web). I was greeted by June Ko. A very nice, pleasant looking Japanese woman, probably in her late 20s. Her picture is NOT on the web and she told me that she was not married. We got into the small room and she drew me a bath in the tall square golden tub. We both got undressed and she gave me a shower and soaped me all over taking good care of the boys and the butt. Then she had me get into the tub and I soaked for a little while, got out, and went to the bed where I laid on my back. As a result, I guess there was no massage as she went right into a BBBJ which was okay and I had full exploration rights to her body. I played with her pussy and finger her until she was quite wet. Then we went into 69 which we did for a while, then I put her on her back and did DATY trying to make her cum. She got very wet and squirmed a bit but I don't think she got there. Then she put me back on my back, did some anal rimming, and then finished me off in her mouth. It was pretty satisfying. Then we repeated the shower and tub before getting dressed. She did have me gargle with some diluted iodine looking stuff and she did the same before and after. And after she was done, she collected 5, 000 Yen from me. So that's where the 9, 800 price tag comes in. All in all it was a very pleasant 50 minutes and I'll probably return.
LD
I do love a bit of chanko.
I notice their map is on the site. Is it as easy as walking in the door, or should one call first?I posted a report back in July about Love-chanko in Shibuya; check it out, there's useful info there. Basically, you go down into B1 and the place has four or five establishments. The Love-Chanko booth is all the way in the back. You don't have to be fluent in Japanese, I know I'm not, but you need to be able to convince the tencho you understand the rules.
But rule number one, really, is to keep reading the Japanese forum posts for a while to avoid disappointment as far as possible. Good luck!Hey PorkLobster,
Thanks for the info. Which Japanese forums do you recommend?
LoveShibuyaGirls
12-23-12, 04:30
thanks for the detailed post.
in your experience, does the attractiveness of the girls vary between the shops? eg are there certain kdh shops that get the best looking girls and other shops that get the less attractive girls?
as i have reported on this board before clover is gaijin ok, but the two girls i have gotten from there have been very plain looking, although their photos were smoking hot. i have seen much hotter k girls around ugu and am wondering why shops thu work at.
also, since bbfs is so widespread at kdh, are there ever reports of std outbreaks on the japanese boards?
i have tried at least 20 kdh girls over the past two years and being a gaijin has rarely been a problem, but then my japanese is much better than the mama-sans'.
first of all, however, some more caveats.
kdh is a world of its own and different rules apply. it is also very much a hit-or-miss affair, but i usually have had a very good time.
there are several excellent japanese forums on the topic, and i would seriously suggest that you spend a couple of days (or weeks, even) reading their faqs and the posts so that you know what to expect, where to go, and which places to avoid. if your japanese is not up to it, you are very likely to be disappointed if not actually ripped off. you also won't be able to make a booking over the phone. you might find something in one of the booths in uguisudani, but probably not the girls you had in mind. actually, you probably had better go somewhere else.
the shops change their names all the time, some have several fronts for the same girls, some are excellent and some are rip-off joints. again, the forums are the best way to stay up to date.
the girls also change at the speed of lightning. most are here on tourist visas and stay a maximum of three months, but some are here only for a week. some suddenly change their names or move to another shop. last month's data are not of much use.
the photoshopping can be absurd, but differs between shops. the movies usually give a better clue, but magic can be done with makeup and lighting too. if the girl that shows up looks nothing like her pictures (or if it is the wrong girl) , you are allowed to cancel for free, although i've personally never done that.
popular girls often have to be booked several days in advance. popular girls also tend to work far, far too much, and may be dead beat by the time it's your turn. ymmv considerably.
all the places cost the same. the vip courses or whatever are just scams. some shops offer discounts for longer courses, but be aware that the discount is frequently drawn from the girl's share, which of course is a way of getting off on the wrong foot.
as for the standard of the service, it varies hugely. it is not at all like the japanese places where a certain level is guaranteed and certain items are included. for kdh, there are no guarantees at all, and you have nowhere to complain if things aren't quite what you expected. some girls will just lie there unresponsive like dutch wives, while others are amazing sex fiends. the 80 minute option includes one round of fs. if you want two rounds, you need to take one of the longer options. bb is quite common, but it depends on the shop and the girl and yourself. some girls will ask you to use a condom, and some will insist. and of course, some will insist on using condoms with gaijin only.
the girls' japanese and english language abilities also vary a lot, but don't expect too much. many of them carry language textbooks or have sophisticated translation software in their smartphones, and are friendly and eager to make conversation in some way. others won't say a word, and those 80 minutes can become very long.
so far, so good. now for the gaijin problems. my japanese is fluent, and i've stopped asking whether gaijin are ok, so i've only been turned down over the phone twice when it became evident anyway. it has also happened a few times that the girl was shocked to find that the customer was a gaijin, and after calling to their mama-san, politely excused themselves. (most girls don't bat a lid, and some are even excited.) once, the mama-san immediately sent another girl, who was perfectly ok. once, another mama-san convinced the girl to stay, which turned out to be a bad idea as she obviously wasn't in the mood. once i had to quickly find somebody else by myself. so, one important rule is to always have a backup plan and a couple of other phone numbers to call.
but rule number one, really, is to keep reading the japanese forum posts for a while to avoid disappointment as far as possible. good luck!
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