Is Laos better to avoid for mongering? [Archive] - Page 2

NiceMusic

01-03-12, 04:12

vientiene

01/02/2012.

"poi"

these are my impressions from my first evening here in vientine, and i could use some help from you all, either in response or with pm.

i went around this nice tourist town with tuktuk driver (contact info from me via pm). he overcharges at 50k / hr, but he could speak english reasonably well and do translation for me. after a little awkwardness on my part as i asked about gf hotels, he pursued my goals for me with vigor. in fact, he did most of the negotiation and pressed ahead on things i would have been embarrassed to say. the frankness i could see he used with the girls seems effective.

he had a number of hotels in mind. on isg, members continually return to the mykeong hotel. he suggested two others, which supposedly have less of a foreigner presence. all seem to be outside of the city center, but either have kareoke or a dance club attached to their hotels. i ended up at la ong dao hotel i, (856-21) 990 386, (856-20) 5517 562, (856-20) 5696 879. the staff hardly speaks english. the driver brought me to the room of girls. they were done up like prostitutes, rather than the appearance of a tasteful non-working girls. they were not entirely enthusiastic, as they were just getting ready about 6pm-in fact, they hardly noticed i was peering in on them. there must have been 13 in a small hotel room.

the hotel is inconvenient and there is no transportation in the neighborhoods (i. e, no tuktuk to take) after midnight. i can't read the lao script and thus cannot even say where the hotel is located, other than it's about 2 km away from everything. the cost is 600b / night. one can negotiate to 500b. remember you'll pay the difference in transportation costs. while downtown later, i did look at lao orchid, mentioned on isg: it is 2000b or so and clearly an upscale family-oriented place. it has a bar, in which only a couple sat having a late dinner. i wouldn't use that place. the famous place for foriegners and working girls is reportedly don chan, which i will probably check out tonight. i tried out a dance club to which lao only go, and it was too early i think and there were no available girls nor any apparent working girls. i think there was a lady boy. waste of time. other gf hotels mentinoed on isg are annou, avalon, etc, but i didn't check them out.

although isg people seem scared of the lao law forbidding relations between their citizens and foriegners, the opportunities for hobbying are clear. while on my way from the hotel, a motorcycle with two well-dressed girls pulled up alongside the tuktuk and essentially made an offer in lao (translated by my driver). too early in the evening at 6:30pm. when i walked alone along river street, the tuktuk drivers started with "looking for a girl? boom boom." and, one offered opium. the quoted prices are generally 1500b st. 2000+b lt. it seems one can negotiate to 1000b / 1500+b or so without too much difficulty. less attractrive girls might be lower prices. note that the streets and businesses start to thin out after about 10pm and most close at midnight, including clubs and other places for girls. only a few stay open later. that is where one notices it is laos. also, the selection of gf hotels is important, unlike in thailand.

i ended up at a beer bar with two young girls about midnight, after checking out several places. the driver wrote that it's on phonethan road, right down from the hotel. there was only one lao customer, barely flirting with a thicker third girl; and he left without taking her along. in my opinion, the two girls were pretty cute-much cuter than the girls in the brothels.

i bought the beer, but the two girls never drank more than a few sips. after investing time and money and after basically committing to one, i found out she is 17 yrs old. this freaks me out some, and the tuktuk driver just laughed about my concern and commented about 15-yr olds. both girls are from the countryside and have been in the city about one month and doing this business one month. they depend on the owner like a mother.

the girl in whom i was interested was even more petit and thin with small. maybe 4'8".90 lbs (1. 4m. 41 kg). thin legs. nice clear face, not as round or covered with make-up as the pros in town. very small tits. dressed in jeans, shirt, and light coat. the other girl had a decently-sized chest for her size and a rounder face. also cute. my girl would not look at me the whole time nor take off her coat, and she seemed shy / reticent (perhaps just with foreigners?). i almost went elsewhere. she seemed to still be handling the fact that she's doing what she's doing. the tuktuk driver wanted me to settle on her or go on, and i said i would not go unless she was comfortable and "into it". he responded she's happy to go for the negotiated price but she wouldn't "eat my icecream" (bj). it was after the witching hour, and i eventually agreed on 1500b overnight, but i gave a $50 bill, slightlhy more.

we arrived silently at the hotel. she allows some hugs and occasionally cast her eyes my way. inside the hotel room, she talked on her cell phone. i handed her a tooth brush, and she did that. no sense of connection. i had a camera and through a series of misunderstandings (no english) , she was upset and thinking i had hidden pictures of her. i demonstrated i did not, but she was certain and very "not ok", when i asked "you okay?". i think she would have gone through with our agreement, but i can not proceed with an upset girl. moreover, the **** fact is serious and she had made a number of phone calls, presumably regarding her emotional state and her belief. seeing she would not be in a good mood and thinking upon the legal ramifications, i eventually showed her the door and indicated for her to leave. i did not ask for any money back.

she looked shocked and refused. i just nudged her out and locked the door. i have mixed feelings about this whole encounter.

i then went to the hotel's brothel, and the girls nearly fled at the sight of a caucasian. when i looked at one, they would point at another. most refused outright when i selected them. they weren't that great looking, but several were acceptable. in the end, i just walked away, rather than spending money on a girl i'm not enthusiastic about. moreover, it's more expensive.

i want the young girl. but, i would prefer a more mature 22 yr old who looks as young as the real thing. i hope i'm successful.

looks: 6 (for most people) .9 (for me)

skill: unknown.

attitude: 2.

recommendation: no

One Dery

01-06-12, 09:46

nicemusic,

sorry you are having a hard time in vien. being my first time there i found it pretty easy to find girls. you can find freelancer on the corner of setthathilath and nokeokaoummane. just becareful of the lady boys. i always did a quick feel of their genitals to make sure i was getting a girl before going back to my room. met a girl name noi. great body, skinny, nice and tight, and did bbbj. slipped the sock on and did multiple positions and finished with her on top. paid the standard short time fee.

another place i tried was the nice bar / restaurant on the corner of setthathilath and pangkham. there's lots of colored light latterns so you can't miss the place. there this great looking girl that works the bar most night. you can't miss her. she'll do you right. just sit at the bar, have a drink and you'll see the show up later in the evening.

i'm in chiang mai now. sorry we couldn't monger together.

one dery.

vientiene

01/02/2012.

"poi"

these are my impressions from my first evening here in vientine, and i could use some help from you all, either in response or with pm.

i went around this nice tourist town with tuktuk driver (contact info from me via pm). he overcharges at 50k / hr, but he could speak english reasonably well and do translation for me. after a little awkwardness on my part as i asked about gf hotels, he pursued my goals for me with vigor. in fact, he did most of the negotiation and pressed ahead on things i would have been embarrassed to say. the frankness i could see he used with the girls seems effective.

he had a number of hotels in mind. on isg, members continually return to the mykeong hotel. he suggested two others, which supposedly have less of a foreigner presence. all seem to be outside of the city center, but either have kareoke or a dance club attached to their hotels. i ended up at la ong dao hotel i, (856-21) 990 386, (856-20) 5517 562, (856-20) 5696 879. the staff hardly speaks english. the driver brought me to the room of girls. they were done up like prostitutes, rather than the appearance of a tasteful non-working girls. they were not entirely enthusiastic, as they were just getting ready about 6pm-in fact, they hardly noticed i was peering in on them. there must have been 13 in a small hotel room.

the hotel is inconvenient and there is no transportation in the neighborhoods (i. e, no tuktuk to take) after midnight. i can't read the lao script and thus cannot even say where the hotel is located, other than it's about 2 km away from everything. the cost is 600b / night. one can negotiate to 500b. remember you'll pay the difference in transportation costs. while downtown later, i did look at lao orchid, mentioned on isg: it is 2000b or so and clearly an upscale family-oriented place. it has a bar, in which only a couple sat having a late dinner. i wouldn't use that place. the famous place for foriegners and working girls is reportedly don chan, which i will probably check out tonight. i tried out a dance club to which lao only go, and it was too early i think and there were no available girls nor any apparent working girls. i think there was a lady boy. waste of time. other gf hotels mentinoed on isg are annou, avalon, etc, but i didn't check them out.

although isg people seem scared of the lao law forbidding relations between their citizens and foriegners, the opportunities for hobbying are clear. while on my way from the hotel, a motorcycle with two well-dressed girls pulled up alongside the tuktuk and essentially made an offer in lao (translated by my driver). too early in the evening at 6:30pm. when i walked alone along river street, the tuktuk drivers started with "looking for a girl? boom boom." and, one offered opium. the quoted prices are generally 1500b st. 2000+b lt. it seems one can negotiate to 1000b / 1500+b or so without too much difficulty. less attractrive girls might be lower prices. note that the streets and businesses start to thin out after about 10pm and most close at midnight, including clubs and other places for girls. only a few stay open later. that is where one notices it is laos. also, the selection of gf hotels is important, unlike in thailand.

Joe Looking

01-12-12, 09:51

NiceMusic,

Not sure if you're still in Vientiene but here's my two cents.

I've been backpacking / mongering around SE Asia for the past few months and have found that for the most part tuk-tuk drivers are not necessary. Especially in the tourist areas of most cities, if you cannot get laid you are doing something wrong. At this point I only use tuk-tuks if I am bored or someone recommends the driver to me.

You mentioned that some of the girls seemed to have no interest in going with you and it very well may have been because you are a foreigner. It sounds like you were mainly in areas that cater to locals and many of the girls probably had no interest in dealing with a foreigner. IMO tourists are better off sticking to the tourist areas unless you have a local / expat friend who is familiar with the local scene. Sometimes the extra money you pay more than makes up for the possibility of a chick will complain because she is used to guys with small dicks who finish very quickly.

Another reason for sticking to the tourist areas is that some of the girls have probably heard bad stories about or had bad experiences with foreigners and you don't have the language skills to explain that you're not that guy. I met one in Cambodia who said she only liked to go with foreigners who are over 60. In the past she has asked young guys to stop because she had gone dry and she said they kept going (in some cases harder than before) and on occasion she had to go the hospital. She went with me because her friend (another working girl) vouched for me.

You also have to be very careful about how you carry yourself when you are in places that cater mostly to local men. If you find yourself in that situation again ask the madam who they would recommend. If they don't recommend one or you can't get the point across then leave. In those places there is usually 1 or 2 girls who have gone with foreigners before and they might not be the ones you want but you are probably better off with them. On the plus side if you treat them right they will advocate for you to the others.

Another big thing is don't be afraid to talk to other guys. When I was in Vientiene I was approached by 2 older Brits who wanted to know where to go to pick up a girl. I was able to tell them where to go / when / about what to pay. I saw them later at a bar and pointed out girls I knew were working. The next day he ran up to me with a big grin on his face blabbering something about viagra and a really good night. When I was in Cambodia, although I looked through this and other boards. 2 expats gave me some great info, including how to tell how hardened a girl was.

Lastly, pat yourself on the back for getting rid of the young girl. I was told by a Lao guy from Canada that I can probably take 8-10 years off the bottom of my dating range while in Laos, but it's probably not worth it. I banged an 18 why / o in Vientiene and her lack of maturity started to show really quickly.

Cayec

01-15-12, 17:06

1. A total change of scene from Phnom Penh.

2. Quiet with a lot of people eating at informal places located along the road side.

3. One bar on corner of Quai Fa Ngum and Rue Chao Anou – small inside with 4 customers and 10 young bar maids. There is a lounge on the second floor and on the second night I saw nice looking girls that had been there. On the second night an Aussie explained that if a girl liked you she would go back to the hotel with you and I should not pay more than $60. A girl asked for a drink (about $6) (I was on beer at $1. 20) and then another. She said she couldn't come back as it was almost midnight and she had to be at work at 8 am. I think if I had stayed here a few more days it would have happened. Just by observation you can see a load of cute girls with tourist companions – although not as prevalent as in Thailand and Cambodia.

4. The lady boys are on bikes and pull up beside you to ask if you are interested. There were a couple of 'good looking' ones walking up and down Rue Sethathirath.

5. Two massages. Both good. First in a closed room but she showed no inclination and I always respect the masseuse. Cost $6. The second on Quai Fa Ngum, big place and the upstairs massage area was curtained cubicles and it was easy for people to see in. The girl's hands wandered a little bit and on the flip she started giving that knowing look. Being wrapped in a sarong with no weight my hard on was obvious and she patted it a little. But low and behold she called over two of her mates to have a look – one of them a real stunner who said she wanted to massage me! I left a frustrated man!

Globotto

01-18-12, 06:08

MutantChicken

02-02-12, 05:41

We had a Tuktuk guy take us around to a couple places. Both of them are buldings that are used as a Brothel. One is a KTV just a stretch further from the Arch. The other a small Motel.

The Tuktuk guy extracted 80, 000kip from us. Thats $10. The women are are all stocked in one room. At the KTV some of them were laid out with thier eyes closed on a bed. The other all sitting down looking at a small TV. The woman don't even get up so you cannot really see them. The pimp wants your money up front. Nobody looks very happy. The price at one place was 1200baht and the other 1500baht. I took one from the KTV at 1200baht. The service was so bad that it was not worth spending the whole hour in there. You might pick one with better service but I don't think your going to get any GFE. My gut feeling is better to try picking up a freelancer at one of the pubs.I went to vientiene with a small amount of research mostly from thatasshole so I knew about hotel la ong dao. I went round the hotels and guesthouses near the waterfront and saw that the priceing was higher than laong dao so I decided to go and stay right in the action. I walked there to get some exercise. Its a decent walk BTW.

Later I hired a bycycle and checked out some of places.

Aniou caberet. Was very quite. Prob 6 girls with guys already. So I passed.

Mekong hotel. Prob 20-30 girls aged late 20; s avergae in lookes 6-7's. I knew about the quited prices 1500-2000 st plus the cost drinks etc so I passed.

La ong dao. The girls are early 20's, more friendly smilling and waving at me maybe not as nicely dressed but was quoted 1000bht St 2000 LT looks 6-7s on average as well. Since I had gone quite hard back in thakek with similar girls. Ie laos girls in early 20's looks 6-7s and I had only paid 150k kip=500bht. I wasnt too eager to sample.

In summary if I was to go to vientiene I'd stay at la ong dao. Socialise in some bars then come home and take a girl for the night.

I also looked at the freelancer bar bo yuk or whatever saw note many attractive girls so that ill def pass

Amjeck

03-29-12, 11:25

I met a traveler recently in Laos with a fantastic story. It was his first time to Laos and he was approached by a tuk tuk driver offering girls, so he jumped into the tuk tuk and off they went to Wonder Land Hotel. He said once in the room with a girl he heard a knock on the door and opened it and was confronted by two plain clothes police men carrying hand guns. They were trying to charge him with illegal sex with a Lao citizen (It's against the law for a foreigner to have sex with a Lao person outside of marriage). They ended up extorting $600 from him before letting him go.

I first thought this story was so outrageous, because I've been in Wonder Land Hotel many times in the past but never had a problem, but it had been over two years ago since I last visited. Being curious, I decided to have a look and be extra cautious while checking it all out. I arrived at the hotel and the mamasan with dyed blonde hair and gold rings on her fingers (looks more thai than Lao) brings out some girls, from a side room and they are all ugly. She's trying hard to push one of her girls on me, but I'm not excited and the whole time I'm assessing the scene. As she's showing the girls I notice two lao guys walk through another door and one of them gives me a very uncomfortable look. After I look at the girls, I tell mama that nothing interests me and thank you for the viewing. She seemed unhappy that she couldn't match me up with a girl of my liking. Before I left I asked to use the toliet and walked down a small hallway and before I got to the toliet I see the same two Lao guys sitting at a table drinking whisky and on the table was what I believe to be a 45 caliber handgun. They saw me walk by and just starred at me, I smiled and they didn't smile back. I used the toliet then left pronto.

I'm not sure what to make of everything, but Wonderland is now definitley off my list.

Naughty

03-30-12, 10:13

I'm not sure what to make of everything, but Wonderland is now definitley off my list.Thanks for the report, Amjeck.

I'll be passing through Vientiane soon, albeit more for sightseeing than anything else, but this type of info is definately valuable.

One can never be too carefull. Scary.

RCA Knight

04-04-12, 15:49

I visited the Wonderland a few times in the past, never had any issues, it's a typical brothel hotel. There were always a few guys taking care of the business, some time show you the girls. I know many NGO guys living in Vientiane, but no one ever heard this kind of incident.

I checked out these hotel pick ups including Wonderland when I was in transit in Vientiane for 2 nights going LP back in Jan, and found the quality really bad, getting worser and worser every trip. Did not even take any girl in 2 nights. These karaoke pick ups also jacked up the price 50USD ST plus lady drinks, LD now about 5 USD, and quality also bad. Saw one doable one in Mekong, but she only wants to go ST in their hotel or the ST room across street from karaoke, very spoiled. It seems like there are now lots of Chinese, Japanese, in Laos for business and pleasure. Its becoming very commercialized.

Joe Looking

04-16-12, 13:51

I went to Wonderland twice between September and October 2011. Both times the same tuk-tuk driver took me. The first time I was only given the option to go with one girl and the second time we were turned away. Even the time I went in, the other girls were not that great looking and they seemed to mainly be hanging around the Lao customers.

Amjek, I wonder how the guy you met got to Wondeland? He may have gotten taken advantage of because he went with a tuk-tuk driver he did not know or he went on his own. I had met the guy who took me a few times before I went and he stayed with me until I handed over the cash and went to the room with the girl.

When I was there I paid $40 to the girl at Wonderland and $40 to the papasan of the girl I was given when Wonderland turned us away, both ST but I was not as educated then. In contrast to the FL girls at bars, neither was worth it. When I was there I met a Lao / Canadian who hinted at paying the bar girls around $20 for all night and that is around what I am sticking to when I go back in a week or so. The girl I spent most of my time with only charged me 35-40 before I got her to go for free, so in comparison to the KTVs and brothels, IMO FLs are a better value.

Red Kilt

05-03-12, 16:23

Hotman 666

05-03-12, 16:37

I have been in Vientiane for 4 days now and I am dismayed at the plans they seem to have for Nam Phou (the fountain) , a central staging point.

Big ugly green fence all around and if the photos on the billboard of the final renovated look is anything half accurate then the area is going to be ruined.

Guess I have to wait and see.

Things are still very cheap in Laos compared to Manila. I haven't been anywhere near a mongering venue yet but stand by for Friday and Saturday night.Red Kilt,

The 'Fountain' area was rather good to me for daytime playmates when I was in Vientiane.

I found some NICE ones including one rather cute Deaf & Dumb girl.

Some street action all round the centre in the evenings but I do not know of any other regular daytime pick up place for freelancers!

Hotman.

Joe Looking

05-12-12, 07:29

I got in about a week ago, expecting to drink large amounts of beer lao and indulge in the hobby. Picking up from Bor Pen Yang is just as easy as last time, but at times you have to talk to a few before getting a positive result but there seems to be few good lookers. Sadly, between eating too much and sleeping early and a clinger I have not done much mongering but on to the report.

The first one I picked up from Bor Pen Yang I had met back in October but never slept with. She remembered me and after a bit of idle flirting she happily agreed to go with me. She has the typical petite asian figure and is an absolute firecracker in bed. She even let me explore all three holes without any argument. The only real downside was that like most Lao girls I have encountered, she tried to sleep the day away so I only fucked her twice (once after I picked her up and another time in the morning). Total damage was 200, 000k. 150, 000 probably would have been okay but it was worth the extra.

A few days later I went to a nightclub with a guy I met at a bar and a few waitresses. It was clear that one was really into him and none were into me, so I quickly made myself scarce. On the walk home I was approached by a girl on a motorbike. I know what you are thinking, it must be a lady boy, and so was I. At that point I just wanted a ride so I offered a few kip for dropping me at my hotel. As we were driving I noticed her waving to an being waved at by a ton of the local lady boys, a bad sign. As she flirted more I did a neck and crotch check, followed by an invitation upstairs. Overall she is only moderately attractive, but sometimes you take what you can. The sex was actually okay, nothing spectacular but she seemed to really be enjoying herself. Total damage 220, 000 (a slight overpay). The weirdness happened the next day when I went with her to her apartment and fucked her for free. At this point she has become a bit of a clinger, wanting to spend every night in the room, always asking if she can be my girlfriend, keeps wanting me to kiss her. It's good to get it for nearly free (I buy her food and this morning I gave her 50, 000k to go shopping) but the clinginess is a bit off putting.

A few nights ago I was in Bor Pen Yang and did my usual thing. I usually wait until 30 minutes to an hour before closing to make my move unless I see one I really want. All night there had been an older chick sitting next to a lady boy constantly giving me the eye. The main other possibility was sitting next to me, but I got the weird feeling she was waiting for someone. After talking a bit with a Canadian, I made my approach on the older chick. She was not great looking, but I am usually a fan of the ones who give you the eye, so I overlooked the bit of acne and the obvious lie about her age (she said 26 but looked about 33). After hopping on her motorbike we headed towards my hotel and I made her stop to talk price. She opened for 2000THB, to which I laughed and told her we're not in Thailand so tell me in kip. I am constantly amazed by the chicks here quote prices in bhat but have no clue about how bhat converts to kip. She then said 500, 000 kip the stay the night, I laughed again and told her 150, 000k and stood firm. She finally agreed but said she would not stay so I got off the bike and told her I would be passing. On the walk home I met a chick who agreed to go all night for 180, 000. She was a bit reserved but definitely did the trick in the sack. After the first shot I noticed blood on the sheets so the party had to be cut short. The damage for the one shot (completely unrushed) was 100, 000.

I've tried a few massage places with pretty much no success until three days ago. At this point I rarely get aroused during massages, but it happened and the worker asked if I wanted massage you know where. I pointed to her mouth and she said okay. When I asked how much the response was 10, 000 bhat, ridiculous right. That quickly became what you pay me, and 80, 000kip was agreed to (should maybe be closer to 40, 000-60, 000 for a BJ given the prices in Vietnam). In the end I passed because I had the odd feeling that it was a lady boy and I was not that hard up for a BJ. I noticed a lot of lady boys working at massage places in Vang Vieng but this was the first I have seen in Vientiane. For anyone wanting to try, it was on a street perpendicular to Noy's Fruit Heaven. The massage place had what something in the name. The other two workers there appeared to be women so not sure if they do massage or what. On another note, as I was getting a massage at a place on the river another guy walked in and I'm pretty sure he directly asked if they would massage his dick. I'll post the name of the place later just in case anyone can confirm extras there. The response was to take him upstairs to another floor, so maybe the key is to just be bold when you walk in and ask. I hate the idea of paying for a hand job, but to each his own.

As to the women who ask for bhat. I know for a fact that many men come here for their visa runs from Thailand with bhat in tow. Over the last week I heard some guy tell a restaurant owner that their price was too cheap and they should charge more. It was a western guy so he smiled and said, beers just cheaper here and there is no need to raise the price. Many asians don't have the same restraint. Believe me, as I have seen it, if you tell some asian people the price is too low because in Thailand you pay x dollars when you come back the price will have changed to x dollars (possibly even the same evening). Also, never let a sex worker talk you into paying in a foreign currency. Most who charge you in a foreign currency do so to exploit you, ie it was 3000LT in Thailand so I will tell him 2500LT and he will think he is getting a great deal even though it should be closer to 800LT. If you are reading this board please don't be that guy. Some have also worked in Thailand or have friends who have and don't seem to understand that cost of living is cheaper here so the majority of goods and services should be cheaper as well. Trust me, it may take a few rejections but it can easily be found for 300, 000 kip or less long time.

Back in September / October the migration of most girls was Bor Pen Yang- Sam Lo- Don Chan's Palace. It now seems to be Bor Pen Yang- Sam Lo or Future- atMy House (or home can't remember). Every spot after Bor Pen Yang is a bit dark and I like to get them back before midnight, so a lot of the time I just write the night off if I don't pick up at Bor Pen Yang.

Red Kilt

05-13-12, 09:41

Thanks for the FR Joe.

I was in BPY on last Friday night but didn't see anyone who might have been you.

I propped myself at the bar and drank too many red wines (surprisingly good for a house red) and chatted to a "woman" sitting beside me. She was quite pleasant and chatted away to me but I had a sneaking suspicion that she might be a boy. Another Aussie guy (regular) sat next to me and I asked him what he thought and he too was pretty sure she was a ladyboy. After an hour she disappeared and then I saw her 30 mins later talking with a group of other obvious ladyboys on the other side of the bar. I had also been chatting to one of the bar staff and I asked her if the person who had been sitting next to me was a ladyboy and she confirmed she was.

By 11. 45 I was getting ready to leave (alone) when I saw a very cute woman with her friend smiling at me. I went around and after the usual "sabaidees" they both indicated they could speak english well enough to converse. I was very interested in the smiling one but the less attractive one asked straight up if "you like both of us, or me or her?" I said I only want one and I like N best but I wasn't sure about my hotel's policy. They assured me it was OK to go to X Hotel so after 5 more minutes we were heading downstairs with her clinging tightly to my hand. A nice ride to the hotel on the back of her scooter helped me clear away some of the red wine.

As she had assured me, we walked straight inside the hotel and nobody at reception took any notice of us.

I had not expected to score so easily and had not planned in advance so I had too many red wines. Nevertheless, we had an incredibly wild couple of hours with 2 shots (condom demanded).

She had to go off to meet her friend by 2. 30 pm and that was OK with me because I don't like LT anyway. Off she went but we exchanged phone numbers and she promised she would call me next day and said she will meet me next day when I don't drink so much and laughed. Maybe I wasn't as hot as I thought I was hehe.

At 5pm next day Saturday she called me and asked if I want her to come around again and of course I agreed so she arrived at 6pm and we had another very raunchy 2 hours. She asked if I wanted her to stay all night but I needed sleep and I also had some meetings today Sunday so I suggested we go and have some dinner and then she could go home.

She was a really smart and nice person and didn't seem to be a hardened hooker (yet) as she seemed a little bit innocent and shy in the bed and was a bit shocked by my size (which is just average anyway) but she had a great body with really firm nice boobs and she really enjoyed the sex once she got used to me.

I have posted on the Philippines thread many times about how I always find the best-looking and performing women when I am not specifically searching. It must be a variation of Murphy's Law, because whenever I go out hunting, I can rarely find the right one, but when I just go out for a fun night eating and drinking they drop into my lap.

Otari

06-04-12, 19:08

It's against the law for a foreigner to have sex with a Lao person outside of marriageIs it realy true?

I see the same two Lao guys sitting at a table drinking whisky and on the table was what I believe to be a 45 caliber handgun. They saw me walk by and just starred at me, I smiled and they didn't smile back.Are this kind of scams / robbery common in Laos? The possibility of being pointed by a 45 caliber gun can kill of the pleasure of mongering (at least for me).

I'm hesitating between Burma and Laos for going for a trip, sightseeing and mongering. Does somebody have any experience in those 2 countries?

Is the conclusion from Amjeck experience that Laos is better to avoid for mongering?

I know that for mongering Thailand is better but I'the like to combine stopover in Bangkok with some new experience. However not with 45 caliber experience.

Probably

Hotman 666

06-07-12, 13:07

Hi Otari,

It MAY be against the law but I NEVER had ANY problem at all finding willing 'playmates' in Vientiane!

This was my FIRST experience in Laos which I posted in 2009.

The hotel I used was one of the central hotels with its own night club.

Upon check in I went to my room and found 3 chambermaids, who had obviously finished work for the day, sitting drinking beer in a small seating area just outside the lift.

2 of the maids were late 30's but the other one was VERY early 20's, a little bit chubby but rather cute.

One of the 2 older maids invited me to sit and drink a beer with them, which I did. None of them spoke much English but with my very limited Thai and a few words of English plus some universal gestures we were soon "chatting away."

The young cute maid seemed very shy but the other, older. 2 were soon (jokingly) asking me if I liked her! I responded that she was "Narak" which made her smile and I was soon teasing her and asking her for a kiss (which was refused.)

After the beer was finished I went to my room for a shower and a short rest but only after asking the cute maid if she wanted to join me! As expected the answer was negative with a shake of her head so I proceeded to my room for a shower and a short nap.

After around half an hour I was woken by a knock at my door. Upon opening it I found the cute young maid outside carrying a towel. After a few words from her in Lao she came inside and pointed to the bathroom!

My assumption was that she had bought me a fresh towel but I decided that I would try my luck with a little kiss and cuddle and see what happened!

After a minute or two she shook her head and pointed to the bathroom so I assumed that my few minutes of fun were up and let her and the towel go into my bathroom.

Then, to my great surprise, she proceeded to lock the bathroom door behind her and after a few minutes I heard the sound of running water.

I decided to continue my rest on the bed and see what happened. After a further few minutes the young maid came out of the bathroom, wearing nothing but the extra towel that she had brought with her, and shyly came and sat on the bed next to me! The next hour or so was absolutely GREAT!

Although initially rather shy, and obviously very inexperienced she was also very eager to learn. She had a wonderfully firm pair of boobs and just a light covering of hair on her tight pussy and seemed genuinely surprised that farrangs were so hairy. (Perhaps I was her first!)

She did not seem as if she was in any great hurry and I was rather surprised that she was willing to stay with me so long but eventually, after around 1. 5 hours my room phone rang. I answered it and a female voice spoke a short phrase in Lao and hung up!

I repeated this phrase to my young cutie who nodded her head and proceeded to get dressed.

When fully dressed she pointed to the door and indicated that she needed to go. I was not sure what to do (she was obviously not asking for money) but in view of the enjoyment I had just had felt that I wanted to give her a small gift. I pulled out a 20 US$ note and put it in her hand. She transferred this to her pocket without even looking at it and after a last kiss left!

I did not see her, or the other maids again until the next day but when I did see them next the 2 older women greeted me with a big grin and a "thumbs up" sign and my young cutie gave me a shy smile. I responded with a thumbs up to the older two to indicate that I was more than happy and gave my young friend a little kiss on the cheek which made her blush and the other two laugh.

Hotman.

Red Kilt

06-08-12, 04:45

Hi Otari,

It MAY be against the law but I NEVER had ANY problem at all finding willing 'playmates' in Vientiane!

This was my FIRST experience in Laos which I posted in 2009.

T. SNIP It is a great story Hotman and it was fun to read. A classic case of good things happening unexpectedly because you took it slowly and didn't push it hard.

However, I would just like to add that these sort of experiences are NOT THE NORM in places like Laos. I have been working in Laos 4 times in the past 5 years and it is not a vibrant mongering place, BUT, there are experiences to be had and many girls around who are very keen to go with a foreigner.

I have had many nights at Bor Pen Yang for example where I just had a few beers and went home alone. But I have had some unexpected fun too (see another post here).

All of my best and most memorable experiences have happened when I least expected it or never planned (just like Hotman's experience. It just happened unexpectedly for him too).

Just go out for the evening and be prepared to take advantage of a proposition when it suddenly appears out of the blue. If it doesn't happen, just go home and wait for another night. It was easy for me because I was there for 24 days each time so it was not urgent.

Just be careful of the ladyboys on the motor bikes who will ride up beside you when you are walking around.

Otari

06-11-12, 13:55

Thanks for encouraging, but mongering is still illegal, isn't?

However, I would just like to add that these sort of experiences are NOT THE NORM in places like Laos. I have been working in Laos 4 times in the past 5 years and it is not a vibrant mongering place, BUT, there are experiences to be had and many girls around who are very keen to go with a foreigner.In this case what places can you recommend for mongering except of the capital?

Just go out for the evening and be prepared to take advantage of a proposition when it suddenly appears out of the blue. If it doesn't happen, just go home and wait for another night. It was easy for me because I was there for 24 days each time so it was not urgent.I whish I had this time. Do you have any suggestions for those that like to do it in a faster way? Clubs, fish bowls, freelances, etc.

Red Kilt

06-12-12, 03:57

Thanks for encouraging, but mongering is still illegal, isn't?

In this case what places can you recommend for mongering except of the capital?

I whish I had this time. Do you have any suggestions for those that like to do it in a faster way? Clubs, fish bowls, freelances, etc.Officially it is illegal, and some hotels still display the sign saying "no outside guests of opposite sex allowed in rooms unless proof of marriage".

However, I am informed by the girls in Bor Pen Yang that most places allow them inside nowadays with no hassles, and I found that to be correct.

There are opportunities outside of Vientiane but I have only ever mongered in the capital. I stand out too much in the provinces, and I also have minders in my work. I suggest you read through the thread to glean them out.

No fish bowls in Vientiane. Yet.
Lots of freelancers later in the night cruise around on motorcycles, but most of them are ladyboys.

Some clubs are mentioned here on ISG if you are game, but they are hit and miss. Don Chan Palace by the Mekong has lots of opportunities but usually after midnight and only on some nights.

I had one success with a massage place that was legit massage but during the massage after some small talk and some good vibes I asked the girl if she did hotel visits and she whispered OK she would visit me if I liked. She passed me her number and I met her around 10 pm for two hours of fun on her way home.

Make sure that your hotel allows guests after 10 pm.

PS. Don't ask me for numbers or contacts. I left my SIM card with a mate in Vientiane and don't have them any more.

Benjamin Be

06-13-12, 21:18

I whish I had this time. Do you have any suggestions for those that like to do it in a faster way? Clubs, fish bowls, freelances, etc.

The faster way is La Ong Dao hotel 1 which I am staying right now, it's on back of hotel kind of a car park, start at 7pm till 2am, about 20 very young girls to choose, I had 3 of them, first two I would give 5-6/10, not much service but good attitude, but tonight's girl, she is absolutely 9/10, kissing, BBBJ and muti position, for sure I will repeat her again, price 1000B without any negotiation. If you are going to use their st room, maybe add 100-200B, Pattaya maybe little cheaper but you would never find any 18 years with good attitude and sweet smile on their face. But only one thing have to remind you they've absolutely zero English skill, if you can speak Thai there will be no problem, I have to use translation app. On my iPhone to talk to them.

Otari

06-13-12, 23:19

Thank you very much Red Kilt.

Lots of freelancers later in the night cruise around on motorcycles, but most of them are ladyboys.If I don't find a nice lady, maybe I should try a new adventure LOL

Elikster

07-01-12, 11:34

Hello,

I am working on traveling there, but I would like to find some recommended hotels to book for nearly a week there, plus to enjoy some mongering in the area. What would be some recommended hotels that have wi-fi and internet access included in their room service? Any suggestions and information would be helpful, since you won't find the information on the hotel that do not allow ladies on their hotel pages when looking to book. .

So your help would be helpful for it. Thanks!

Elikster

07-01-12, 20:19

Red Kilt

07-03-12, 05:12

Hello,

After reviewing the forum, I wanted to ask for updated information on some recommended hotels to book in Vietnane, since it seems it is not possible to find the hotel policy about no guests allowed in any of the hotels that I located though various hotel booking sites for this. So I am asking for some recommendations so I can book in advance in October for it.

Thanks!If you read #270 you would have seen my line that states.

"However, I am informed by the girls in Bor Pen Yang that most places allow them inside nowadays with no hassles, and I found that to be correct."

I am reluctant to identify the 4 star hotel that I stayed in on the public forum but I will pm you if you can indicate what rate you want to pay. My hotel was expensive and I wouldn't have used it if my employer had not been picking up the bill.

Red Kilt

07-03-12, 05:27

Hello,

After reviewing the forum, I wanted to ask for updated information on some recommended hotels to book in Vietnane, since it seems it is not possible to find the hotel policy about no guests allowed in any of the hotels that I located though various hotel booking sites for this. So I am asking for some recommendations so I can book in advance in October for it.I tried to pm you the information that you want but I guess you haven't paid your $19. 95 to Jackson.

There are a few hotels that are cheap (like Anou) that have their own disco downstairs but I think the low price includes roaches etc at no additional cost.

Elikster

07-03-12, 10:56

I tried to pm you the information that you want but I guess you haven't paid your $19. 95 to Jackson.

There are a few hotels that are cheap (like Anou) that have their own disco downstairs but I think the low price includes roaches etc at no additional cost.Heh. Got it. No problem, since I have been looking at several 3 star hotels for the stay and they have good reviews. They are all mostly on the riverside, which seems ideal.

Pablo

07-04-12, 17:05

After over 40 trips to Thailand I wanted to see something different so I'm planning a trip to Vientiane. As usual when I visit somewhere new there's a lot of great info in here and I'm looking forward to the adventure of seeing somewhere new and figuring it all out. And of course to the girls. Time to do some research now and I'll try to post a trip report when I'm done. Any tips are appreciated.

Red Kilt

07-05-12, 07:02

Heh. Got it. No problem, since I have been looking at several 3 star hotels for the stay and they have good reviews. They are all mostly on the riverside, which seems ideal.Most of the hotels along the "riverside" are good. I said "riverside" in inverted commas because for much of the year the mighty Mekong is a mere trickle that you can hardly see flowing in the distance against the Thailand bank. The river views are actually vast sand / soil plains over which locals tend to stroll and play ball etc. When the rainy season kicks in and the Mekong is flooding in all of its majesty then the views are magnificent. These hotels are near to Bor Pen Yang, a rooftop, open bar (it has a roof) where you can expect to find a range of potential companions, some very hard-core, some LBs and some FLs who range across the spectrum of experience.

Just be wary that the hotels with low prices and pretty pics on the websites are not disguising the fact that they are "backpacker" type places because there are lots and lots of them around Vientiane now.

When I was there in May the streets were crowded with backpackers (literally). No offence meant to BPs and they didn't affect me or my stay in ANY way at all but just alerting you to the fact that it might be better to pay a little extra to ensure you have a good room.

Looking forward to your detailed trip reports Pablo and also Elikster.

Pablo

07-07-12, 07:02

Looking forward to your detailed trip reports Pablo and also Elikster.Thanks for the tips RK. I'm flying to Thailand tomorrow for 2 weeks of work and at some point I'll decide if I'll do the Laos trip. I've never been there so I just want to see something new, but not sure if it's worth about US $500 for 2-3 nights, before food, beer and girls!

Anyway, if I come it'll be somewhere around July 22-25. Will anybody be around and want to hang out?

Naughty

07-07-12, 23:59

not sure if it's worth about US $500 for 2-3 nightsI think you can do it for much less than this.

Instead of flying in, take an overnight sleeper train. You can get a first class cabin for two and bring a girl from Bangers to play with on the way for less than the plane fare and save a nights worth of hotel cost and have a really interesting and fun time just getting there. Bring a grocery bag full of goodies and a couple vitamin V's and make a night of it!

In fact I will be doing just this later in the year. Check out http://www.seat61.com/

I might even offer my date to a few random bellhops just for giggles!

Red Kilt

07-12-12, 14:32

In fact I will be doing just this later in the year. Check out.

http://www.seat61.com/Fantastic link Naughty. I might do this sort of trip one day myself, just for the experience.

On The Road

07-12-12, 18:03

I tried to pm you the information that you want but I guess you haven't paid your $19. 95 to Jackson.

There are a few hotels that are cheap (like Anou) that have their own disco downstairs but I think the low price includes roaches etc at no additional cost.Hi Red Kilt, can you PM me with some of this informations?

Looking for cheap, decent, gf Hotel in Ventiane, please.

Thanks.

OTR

Otari

07-28-12, 16:18

Hi Red Kilt, can you PM me with some of this informations?

Looking for cheap, decent, gf Hotel in Ventiane, please.

Thanks.

OTRRed Kilt, On The Road, could you please, forward this mail to me as well? I'm looking for the same information.

Thanks

Otari

07-28-12, 19:12

The faster way is La Ong Dao hotel .on back of hotel kind of a car park, start at 7pm till 2am, about 20 very young girls to chooseThanks for advice Benjamin Be. Is La Ong Dao Hotel GF?

Can somebody recommend a hotel with a save box inside the room? I guess this is not the case of La Ong Dao Hotel. I feel much more confortable having quests if I have my valuables in a save box in my room.

Otari

07-28-12, 20:51

No fish bowls in Vientiane. Yet.Are La Ong Dao I and II not kind of fish bowls?

GentleBoner

08-19-12, 18:35

Don Chan Palace seems to be closed down.

Not sure why

Otari

10-01-12, 01:24

I don't want to over pay and drive prices up. Can I assume that girls should be happy with 150 – 300 K kip for a ST?

Red Kilt

10-01-12, 08:14

I don't want to over pay and drive prices up. Can I assume that girls should be happy with 150 – 300 K kip for a ST?Ask them or, better still, tell them that is your price. If they want more just be firm and decisive and move on. My experience is they quickly back down and say OK.

Never go over 300, 000 kip or around $40 USD. I think $30 USD is reasonable (around 250K kip)

Otari

10-02-12, 19:20

Ask them or, better still, tell them that is your price. If they want more just be firm and decisive and move on. My experience is they quickly back down and say OK.

Never go over 300, 000 kip or around $40 USD. I think $30 USD is reasonable (around 250K kip) Thank you Red Kilt.

I'll follow your advice and not spoil the market.

Red Kilt

10-05-12, 02:51

Thank you Red Kilt.

I'll follow your advice and not spoil the market.OK Otari but I have never subscribed to the view that guys who overpay "spoil the market" (anywhere, not just in Laos).

I prefer to think that this forum allows you to know what the market actually is, and guys who go outside of that are just seen as "suckers" and girls will take advantage of them and treat it as a bonus or windfall to be enjoyed.

Fred Gold

10-05-12, 03:25

A few yeears ago I stayed at the Novotel in the capital. At night I hear music, followed my ears. Found a HUGE dance hall filled with girls. This is organized by hotel.

Chose a 7-8 who spoke a little english, listened to the music, made out with her on the couch. Fingered her right there and for $$ took her to my room. They said the policy was to take them out to another hotel. I told them I paid for a double room and she was my double. Reluctantlyu they let me take her upstair with nothing held back don't remeber $ but not much Happy Hunting.

Fred

OK Otari but I have never subscribed to the view that guys who overpay "spoil the market" (anywhere, not just in Laos).

I prefer to think that this forum allows you to know what the market actually is, and guys who go outside of that are just seen as "suckers" and girls will take advantage of them and treat it as a bonus or windfall to be enjoyed.

Jcr153

10-18-12, 01:58

I've read the thread but have some basic questions, so go easy I've done my reading but just don't have enough info.

I'm looking for basic GF friendly accommodations. I'm aware that you can't bring Lao girls to your room by law so my first question is: do the hotels look the other way or are the girls from one of the neighboring countries? So GF friendly and not too expensive (under $40 if possible). What I know so far is about La Ong Dao hotel which is fully booked for the time of my stay and Anou which their nightclub is currently closed and under renovation according to a report I read. So what; s another decent option?

Next question where the best place to hunt (for girls) beside MP, or Karaoke? I see in the report something about behind La Ong Dao hotel. Can someone explain further? Is there other clubs or bars? What's the current basic rates ST and LT. Just trying to get the basics covered before I land.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,

JCR

Jcr153

10-22-12, 13:18

I was reading the Vietnam forum too and missed typed. I meant Vientiane.

I've read the thread but have some basic questions, so go easy I've done my reading but just don't have enough info.

I'm looking for basic GF friendly accommodations. I'm aware that you can't bring Lao girls to your room by law so my first question is: do the hotels look the other way or are the girls from one of the neighboring countries? So GF friendly and not too expensive (under $40 if possible). What I know so far is about La Ong Dao hotel which is fully booked for the time of my stay and Anou which their nightclub is currently closed and under renovation according to a report I read. So what; s another decent option?

Next question where the best place to hunt (for girls) beside MP, or Karaoke? I see in the report something about behind La Ong Dao hotel. Can someone explain further? Is there other clubs or bars? What's the current basic rates ST and LT. Just trying to get the basics covered before I land.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,

JCR

Red Kilt

10-22-12, 13:33

I'm looking for basic GF friendly accommodations. I'm aware that you can't bring Lao girls to your room by law so my first question is: do the hotels look the other way or are the girls from one of the neighboring countries? So GF friendly and not too expensive (under $40 if possible). What I know so far is about La Ong Dao hotel which is fully booked for the time of my stay and Anou which their nightclub is currently closed and under renovation according to a report I read. So what; s another decent option?

Next question where the best place to hunt (for girls) beside MP, or Karaoke? I see in the report something about behind La Ong Dao hotel. Can someone explain further? Is there other clubs or bars? What's the current basic rates ST and LT. Just trying to get the basics covered before I land.I don't think you have read very far on the Lao thread. All your questions are answered in the first few pages of the General Info thread. Lots of information there about rates.

Anou is still a cheap option if you want a hotel that allows you to bring girls. The nightclub is not much good anyway.

Bor Pen Yang is mentioned many times in the thread. It is a good place to hunt.

Behind La ong Dao Hotel is a carpark. What else do you need to know? An open carpark is an open carpark.

Jcr153

11-23-12, 05:14

I don't think you have read very far on the Lao thread. All your questions are answered in the first few pages of the General Info thread. Lots of information there about rates.

Anou is still a cheap option if you want a hotel that allows you to bring girls. The nightclub is not much good anyway.

Bor Pen Yang is mentioned many times in the thread. It is a good place to hunt.

Behind La ong Dao Hotel is a carpark. What else do you need to know? An open carpark is an open carpark.Thanks Red Kilt, one last question.

Has anyone attempted to bring a girl into the Inter City Hotel right next to Bor Pen Nyang? Or know if it is gf?

Jcr153

11-24-12, 09:42

So Here is my experience thus far in Vientiane.

Inter City Hotel appears to be gf. At least when I brought one in last night it was no problem. And when I asked the girl she said it should be no problem. So I'm going to put it in the gf category. Plus the hotel is literally right next to Bor Pen Nyang. You walk out the front door and go to your right 25 feet and you at Bor Pen Nyang. Well you have to climb 4 flights of stairs then your there but you get the picture.

My impression of BPN is that it's a cool bar with decent music and yes definitely some working girls, but I just wasn't feeling the vibe as far as interaction with the ladies. Lots of fellow travelers there also. Great view.

Alexia Tex Mex appeared to have a couple of working girls hanging out for awhile. It's definitely a popular place with foreigners. It's down the road from the Inter City Hotel out the front door and to the left on the main road Quay Fa Ngum next to the river.

Then there's Samlo. Out the front door of Inter City, go left, take your first left on Chou Anou, go to the next major road Setthathirath Road, turn right, it's down the street about a block on your left. Seemed to be plenty of working girls here. Plus a ladyboy or two so be careful. So I chat up Noi. I think that's her name. Doesn't really matter. She's not a stunner by any means but she is pleasant. We strike a deal for 250, 000 Kip for all night. She likes sex. She isn't the greatest at it but what she lacks in technique she makes up for in enthusiasm. She would not stop. She managed to coax 3 loads out of me by noon. I couldn't get her to leave and she wanted to keep fucking. She wants to repeat tonight but I have an early flight to Thailand so I'm going to pass.

So I've been sufficiently drained of all my leche and dropped $31. 25 US, the cost of a couple drinks and another $6 US buying her lunch just to get her to leave the room and leave my cock alone. Overall I call the night a success.

JCR

Red Kilt

12-08-12, 17:09

So Here is my experience thus far in Vientiane.

SNIP.

So I've been sufficiently drained of all my leche and dropped $31. 25 US, the cost of a couple drinks and another $6 US buying her lunch just to get her to leave the room and leave my cock alone. Overall I call the night a success.Good helpful report JCR.

I didn't know about Samlo. I must check it out next time.

Love Sex 22

12-23-12, 12:56

Recently visited Vientiane for few days. Was busy working in day time. Ask a took took driver at night I want play pool with beautiful girls was around 10 PM. He took me this place near the river, I saw many bars and restaurant on the way there. He stopped in front of a building and told me here you have to go upstairs. Climbed up 3 floors to the roof the place was packed. Many farangs look like locals, and many freelancers. Remind me a lot of the beer garden in Bangkok. I had couple of drinks and play some pool, I didn't see many good looking girls there, mostly older and heavy weights they where few nice ones also. Talk to one of the nicer girl ask her where you go after they close this bar at 12 midnight. She said we can go toatHome club. Its A late hour Disco close at 3 am, its very late for Vientiane. I told her ok We agreed for 1000 baht for long time in my hotel after the disco but she told me if you find another girl you can take her. I was very pleasantly surprised from this disco. Was packed with local regular hot girls but many came with BF and friends. She was right I did changed my mined and picked up another young girl student 1500 baht long time, Had great sex and didn't want to leave in morning, Saw her one more night before coming back to Bangkok. Attached are few photos from this disco. Don't remember the address but U can ask any took took driver I am sure they will take you.

Red Kilt

12-23-12, 14:32

Recently visited Vientiane for few days. Was busy working in day time. Ask a took took driver at night I want play pool with beautiful girls was around 10 PM. He took me this place near the river, I saw many bars and restaurant on the way there. He stopped in front of a building and told me here you have to go upstairs. Climbed up 3 floors to the roof the place was packed. Many farangs look like locals, and many freelancers. Remind me a lot of the beer garden in Bangkok. I had couple of drinks and play some pool, I didn't see many good looking girls there, mostly older and heavy weights they where few nice ones also. Talk to one of the nicer girl ask her where you go after they close this bar at 12 midnight. She said we can go toatHome club. Its A late hour Disco close at 3 am, its very late for Vientiane. <SNIP>.Love Sex 22.

Seems like the tuk tuk driver took you to Bor Pen Yang if you climbed up 4 floors.

Plenty of information here about BPY so seems like you didn't do your homework or you would have learned about FLs and pool tables.

I have never seen much action at "At Home" but maybe things have changed in the recent past (as they do when places change hands).

I will have to check it out next trip, hopefully in Feb.

Love Sex 22

12-23-12, 14:48

Love Sex 22.

Seems like the tuk tuk driver took you to Bor Pen Yang if you climbed up 4 floors.

Plenty of information here about BPY so seems like you didn't do your homework or you would have learned about FLs and pool tables.

I have never seen much action at "At Home" but maybe things have changed in the recent past (as they do when places change hands).

I will have to check it out next trip, hopefully in Feb.Actually I like playing pool so I enjoy playing pool at BPY and talking with the local girls, and if I didn't go there I wouldn't know about at home. Also the tuk took driver take me to another club in the previous night it was in the ground floor in a side street I think it was in the same area BPY. They had 2 pool tables and also a lot of working girls place got crowded more around midnight I think they closed at 1 am. Many girls but again no lookers. Went to my hotel alone.

FunMan13

07-16-13, 08:44

Are the night clubs, discos and pool halls air conditioned? If not, how are the mosquitoes. Sorry I have to ask. These thing bother me very much. Thanks.

Elikster

07-16-13, 11:28

Are the night clubs, discos and pool halls air conditioned? If not, how are the mosquitoes. Sorry I have to ask. These thing bother me very much. Thanks.Some places are and some are open space. As for the mosquitoes, they are not bad at all. It depends on the time of the year though. If you go during the winter periods, it is pretty nearly non-existant, and during the summer, it can be a bit of a problem. But honestly, from my last trip there last year, I did not see any problems as far I have seen when I went around up there.

DeviousG

08-28-14, 05:54

I have just spent 3 months in Vientiane and had several good experiences. Stayed at Hotel Lao in Ban Haysoke (Chinatown) for the entire time and had no problems with girls coming up to the room.

They have a massage place and barber salon below the hotel, also a pharmacy.

Went for a massage downstairs and picked an older girl about mid 30's I'd say. The Lao traditional massage is really vigorous but leaves you feeling wonderful.

Cost 40000 kip. Then towards the end of the massage she started flicking my cock to get it out of the way I think. I barred up and she went for it. Before I knew it she was in full BJ mode and going to town.

I was a bit surprised but pleasantly so as I'd heard all the stories of no sex with Lao nationals etc.

Needless to say a tip was in order. Gave her 100,000 kip and said thanks.

I went back there a few times for the same result plus handjobs as well.

The second one was skinny little street working girl who approached me as I was sitting at a bar called Dropzone. It's a block or so back from the riverfront on a corner. I went back to the hotel with her and fucked although she coudln't speak Englsih other than to say.

"I go now". Not before I fuck you say I.

Anyway she was nothing special and cost me 300,000. Ripped off I later found out.

A week or so later I had been out to dinner with friends, got back to the hotel and then was feeling bored. Went down to Dropzone to top up on the beer. S I was pretty drunk by this stage and sitting by myself contemplating the universe, chatting to the waitresses and generally getting ready to go.

In walks three women lead by a real hottie with pretty big tits for a Lao. They went inside to play pool and I didn't see them again for about 20 minutes.

I was getting up to go when the hottie walked out and I raised my eyebrow and smiled at her. She said "do you want to talk to me? I said sure.

Then her friends came out and they all crowded in around my table and we got talking, hottie sitting next to me.

After a while it became obvious that her two friends were lesbians. I said something along the lines of you're very beautiful and she asked if I wanted her to come back to my hotel.

I said yes and we went back there.

She was a little ripper! Great fuck and wouldn't stop.

Needless to say she occupied my time for the next two months aside from the occasional foray downstairs.

Her name is Jen or MiniJane.

Anyone else had the good fortune?