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Allover

04-06-06, 07:40

Autumn Lover

04-06-06, 14:26

Cebu Local

04-06-06, 14:44

Weelock

04-06-06, 15:12

A friend and I are thinking about booking at the Holiday Inn in early May. He is accustomed to modern, somewhat luxurious hotels. Could anyone please let me know if the renovation is complete? Also is the Holiday Inn an easy walk to the Lisboa Casino?

Thanks for any help.

I'm currently in Macau. For the renovations, if you are talking about on the first floor there are done. The bar that was on the first floor is gone. Was told the bar is now on the second floor. What replaced the bar is for exchanging money for the casino. There is now a new smaller cafe with tables outside. I ordered a pot pie and a can of coke. Forgot the amount for the pie. A can of coke will set you back about 25HKD. I recall mix drinks are about 40HKD, overall, expensive. I was there today enjoying a late lunch when some Russians girls sat next to me. Sorry, not my type Russian girls. Some with bleach and yellow dyed hair.

Just a side note, I was in Macau last year during the first week of May. A big mistake. Every hotel was TWICE as expensive and crowded. It put a small dent in my pockets. Reason, the first week of May is a Chinese Holiday. People from the mainland flooded Macau and Hong Kong. Every place was packed.

Weelock

Allover

04-07-06, 06:05

Weelock

04-07-06, 06:32

I really don't care about the hotel bar or restaurants, I just want a clean, modern room. Cebu Local and others have posted before that this Holiday Inn was well below average for a Holiday Inn. I'm assuming the rooms are nicer since being renovated. The room rate seems to be about US $80 so I'm guessing the hotel isn't too full.

I'll have a look at the Landmark as well if they have a website.

Thanks for the info and the tip about the holiday. I'm arriving May 7 so I hope the holiday is over by then-but I'll check to be sure.

Sorry I didn't know what RENOVATION were you asking about in you previous post. I thought you were asking about the main floor. Then I CAN'T help you since I only stayed at Holiday Inn once in Macau and NOT recently.

Since your friend wants a modern, somewhat luxurious hotels, I would still guess Lisbon Hotel. It's about a 5 min walk from the Holiday Inn. Even with tons of new renovations I would still NOT rate the Holiday Inn in Macau with the same class as the Lisbon.

Weelock

Lionheart8

04-09-06, 18:34

Me and my buddies were simply looking for a drink after losing some money at Lisboa Casino. We decided to venture downstairs (we were newbies and did not know about what was about to behold us).

Well, lo and behold, we came across the "shark"-infested corridor downstairs of Lisboa. The girls were hot, pretty and silicon-enhanced. This sweetest girl immediately had her eye on us and asked us to take her upstairs. My cock was already mari-kita (standing at attention). Luckily my jeans was sturdy. Since we were not sure of the scene, we decided to have our coffee first before making our decision. That was when a Mongolian cuisine decided to invite herself to our table. She was tall alright. In the meantime, we had to reject at least 7 other hot chicks (can you imagine doing that anywhere else? ! ).

Ms Mongolian was still there. I told my friend to take her first before she gets taken and off they went. I waited around but the first girl that we both liked did not appear again. In the meantime, I literally had to use my arms to reject at least 6 other girls whom I wasn't interested in.

Finally I saw another slim beauty. She immediately saw me looking at her and sauntered over to me. Off we went to her room. On entering, discovered that her roommate was around. They asked me to take both of them for HK$1000. Since her roommate was quite average looking, I passed. I thought she would leave the room but she simply rolled over and pretended to sleep. I fooled around in bed for a while doing some rubba action. After that took my shower and jumped into bed (Yes, her room mate was still IN the room on the other bed! ). Anyway, my girl was slim but had 36C boobs which were nice and soft. I did alot of radio tuning on her nips but when I wanted to suck them, she said "bu ke yi! " (Cannot in Chinese) WTF! I'm going to pay HK$500 but cannot suck her tits! Anyway, I was too horny by then so I decided, fuck it. Just go ahead and fuck her.

I slid in and unlike the HK girl on the first night (see report in HK section), this one was tight like a virgin. I quickly changed to her on top so that I can squeeze her tits. She was moaning and riding me like a buccaroo! I almost wanted to tell her to say Yee har! After about another minute, her tight **** was squeezing my TLC (thick long cock). I couldn't keep it in anymore so had to shoot. She was hot and tight but too bad I was too horny to last longer.
face: 9 (looks like Taiwanese actress)
body: 8 (slim waist and very smooth body)
breast: 9 (just the right size)
fuck: 5 (tight **** but the action was too fast)
GF feeling: 3 (she was too hurried...plus her no-suck-titties rule
was a turn-off)

Gyaos

04-09-06, 19:26

Lionheart8

04-10-06, 02:59

I always go to Supreme Sauna and am just beginning to figure out how to get discount prices. Below are the prices listed for the Fortuna Night Club located in the same building. I don't know these Chinese characters, next to the time and cost in MOPS or HKD. Could someone give me a translation on everything listed below, so I know what's being sold? Then I can try to make some arrangements of what I'm buying and what's being offered. Thanks! Anyone?

茶舞 2pm - 8pm $ 525
晚舞 8pm - 1am $ 625
貓頭鷹 11pm - 4am $ 1,155
早龍 2pm- 8pm $1,493
自由龍 2pm- 1am $1,593
夜龍 12am- 4am $2,083

Gyaos.Although my Chinese is not what it's used to be, but I think the following translates as:

茶舞 - "Afternoon Tea dance"
晚舞 - "Night dance"
貓頭鷹 - (literally) "Owl" - I suppose this means overnight?
早龍 - "Early Dragon"
自由龍 - "Free Dragon"
夜龍 - "Night Dragon"

Doesn't say much does it?

Cheers!

Jacer Sun

04-10-06, 06:26

I always go to Supreme Sauna and am just beginning to figure out how to get discount prices. Below are the prices listed for the Fortuna Night Club located in the same building. I don't know these Chinese characters, next to the time and cost in MOPS or HKD. Could someone give me a translation on everything listed below, so I know what's being sold? Then I can try to make some arrangements of what I'm buying and what's being offered. Thanks! Anyone?

茶舞 2pm - 8pm $ 525
晚舞 8pm - 1am $ 625
貓頭鷹 11pm - 4am $ 1,155
早龍 2pm- 8pm $1,493
自由龍 2pm- 1am $1,593
夜龍 12am- 4am $2,083

Gyaos.Hi Gyaos,

Those are the prices between different hours.

1. tea dance - which like happy hour,,,
2. night dance
3. mid night dance
4. morning dance
5. free style dance
6. late nite dance.

Hope this helps!!

Lionheart8

04-12-06, 16:57

Due to special requests from those are planning trips to HK and Macau, I thought I'd add my own "research material" for general info.

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I think Fuji Building and Tsim Sha Tsui have the best selections. The pictures are accurate. IMO, those who are new (say, a week or two) has pretty good service. This is because they want to impress customers so that they become repeat customers.

For Macau, the agencies selling the packages are located on the third floor of Shun Tak Centre (HK-Macau Ferry Terminal), where the ferry tickets are being sold. You won't miss the shops since they have photos of girls everywhere.

They all operate more than one sauna. The one we went to has a sign that says "18 Sauna" on the shop window, amongst others. At 18, they sell various packages. They have:

1) "chuen2 tao4" (full package) which costs HK1430. This includes ferry ticket, entry into the sauna, choosing the girl of your choice (only Taiwanese, Viet and Mongolian. Other categories have to pay extra) for 60 minute F-session and one free 25 min back massage or body scrub.

2) "Zhong1 shi4" (Chinese package) which costs HK930. This includes ferry ticket, entry into sauna, 60 min F-session and one free 25 min back massage/body scrub. The girl you cannot choose. However, if you decided that you want to choose the girl, then add HK500 (before 11% taxes) which will be included in the bill when you leave. If you don't choose, then the sauna will just assign one of their China girls. You might get lucky but then again, you might get one "fuck- face" type. So most people will just pay the extra HK500 to choose from the line-up.

3) "Shang4 hai3 shi4" (Shanghai style) which costs HK740 (with tax). Includes ferry ticket, entry into sauna and 90-min F-session. No free 25 min massage but it's no big deal. At least this one is for 90 min. No choosing of the girl also. If you choose, add HK730 (with taxes) that will be in your bill when you leave. * I personally prefer this package since it's 90 min. No free 25 min massage but like I said, no big deal. And it's only about S$10 more than the firt two packages.

The last package is just for ferry tickets and entry into the sauna. No fuck session. I think it costs HK300 or something like that.

The sauna entry tickets are the most important. Guard them with your life since you need them to enter. They are valid for half a year so even if you decide not to go to the sauna after you et into Macau, you can still keep the sauna entry ticket till the next time (but before six months after the date stamped on the ticket).

There are also photo albums at the shops, including those for 18 Sauna. They are quite accurate. However, the photos are at least one year to a few months old. I have browse through and noted some of the numbers. Then when I reach the sauna and look for the numbers, I find that they are even more gorgeous in person, esp the Viet girls.

The sauna includes free buffet spread (depends on what time you go). However, you can also order anything on the menu (those items without any price tags). They are also free and inclusive in your entry price. They also have many lounge bed as well as a Movie room (near the food area) where they show the latest movies.

The girls are paraded every half-hour to one hour. The busiest time is from 8 pm to 12 am. It's like a swarm of bees at this time with the most customers. But they also have the widest selection at this time (40 - 50 girls). If you like one, get her number and tell the papa-san quickly. Otherwise they will be snapped up in no time, then you will have to wait for your turn or choose another girl.

Apart from Taiwanese, Vietnamese and Mongolian girls, there are Korean girls, European girls (usually Russian or Polish) and Supermodel girls. You can see which category they are by their number tags, which are colour-coded. The European girls you would have to pay slightly more if you pick one (I think it's around HK900). The Korean and Supermodel ones go for an extra HK1100 more.

In my opinion, the Viet girls are the best in service and attitude. Only problem is language since they speak very little Cantonese/Chinese/English. But then again, you didn't go there to talk to them. The Taiwanese girls have so-so service but are the most "chio" of the whole lot. From experience, better to choose one that looks and smiles at you alot. But bottom-line is, be very quick in your selections.

If you choose not to bonk at the time, just relax in the hot tubs, steam rooms or go to the rest area to eat, watch TV or surf the internet.

Hong Kong Boy

04-12-06, 18:34

Went to Darling & 18 sauna yesterday have a good time. First went to Darling since it is closese to the ferry. Pick a Tawanese girl did all the thing everybody else said & was real good. One note the models was nothing special had them last time the service was not as good & not that much better looking.

Went to Sands win little bit of money so decide went to 18 saune. I think it cost around 1300 Hk. But I spent about hour & a half with the food massage, ear cleaning, back massage and dick massage the total bill come to $2900 Hk good thing I won. Pick a Viet lady did all the thing other member said but only cbj and very little AR. But still a good time, nothing I could find in USA.

Hat Trick

04-13-06, 08:01

Due to special requests from those are planning trips to HK and Macau, I thought I'd add my own "research material" for general info.

Lionheart:

Good solid report, thanks.

Have 2 questions:

1) Are you sure for European/Korean/Model girls will cost HK900 or 1100 in addition to the package price already paid? Basically for a total of $2K - $2.5K total damage?

2) What is "Chio" ?

Thanks brother.

HatTrick

Csun213

04-13-06, 16:45

Does the ferry in Shekou go directly to Maccu or do I have to go to Zhu Hai first than then go to Maccu? What would be the cost? I want to go to Maccu airport from Lo Wu in Shenzhen. Thanks

Lionheart8

04-13-06, 18:59

Lionheart:

Good solid report, thanks.

Have 2 questions:

1) Are you sure for European/Korean/Model girls will cost HK900 or 1100 in addition to the package price already paid? Basically for a total of $2K - $2.5K total damage?

2) What is "Chio" ?Hat Trick,

Yes, the European/Korean/Model girls definitely will cost extra. Remember, if you had paid for the "chuen2 tao4" (full package) at the shop at HK Ferry Terminal, it will entitle you to pick your own Taiwanese or Vietnamese or Mongolian girl. The rest is extra. The last time I was there was a couple of months ago and the European/Korean cost HK$900 more while the model category cost HK$1100. The price might have changed.

In any case, I am going back soon and will update if there's any changes.

For some bros, they simply choose the cheaper packages that do not allow you to choose. Some of them have managed to get pretty decent looking girls even though this is randomly chosen for them by the managers.

"Chio" means "sexy" in hokkien, which is a Chinese dialect. Sometimes we also say "chio bu", which means "sexy babe".

Cebu Local

04-13-06, 23:42

Does the ferry in Shekou go directly to Maccu or do I have to go to Zhu Hai first than then go to Maccu? What would be the cost? I want to go to Maccu airport from Lo Wu in Shenzhen. ThanksThere is a Shenzen to Macau Ferry at the Fu yong Ferry Terminal,But it only has 3-4 sailings a day compared to going to Zhuhai which them every half hour Cheers

Lionheart8

04-14-06, 03:41

Hat Trick,

Yes, the European/Korean/Model girls definitely will cost extra. Remember, if you had paid for the "chuen2 tao4" (full package) at the shop at HK Ferry Terminal, it will entitle you to pick your own Taiwanese or Vietnamese or Mongolian girl. The rest is extra. The last time I was there was a couple of months ago and the European / Korean cost HK$900 more while the model category cost HK$1100. The price might have changed.Oh, I forgot to add. You only pay for the extras when you leave. They can charge you to your credit card or you can pay cash. Anyway, my advice is, if in doubt abt the prices, just ask the managers. That's what their job is. To answer your questions and make you feel satisfied. Otherwise they would not get repeat business.

Csun213

04-14-06, 04:30

There is a Shenzen to Macau Ferry at the Fu yong Ferry Terminal,But it only has 3-4 sailings a day compared to going to Zhuhai which them every half hour Cheers

Thanks. does the Maccu ferry at the same place as the Zhu Hai ferry? Also do you know what is the cost difference? Thanks

Allover

04-14-06, 08:41

Lionheart8 that was a very informative report on saunas, thank you. Darling 1 is also called a sauna and I know you just choose a girl and go to a room with a large tub. I prefer the Darling type sauna since my time is usually limited. Can anyone recommend another Darling type experience in Macau? I am curious if Fuji Sauna at the Lisboa is similiar to Darling or if its like the other saunas. I haven't read about Fuji in quite a long time.

Cebu Local

04-14-06, 11:16

Thanks. does the Maccu ferry at the same place as the Zhu Hai ferry? Also do you know what is the cost difference? ThanksI was going to answer but Tiger 1 posted the actual schedule in the Shenzen area.I think you better use that Cheers

Red Hawk

04-14-06, 21:04

Hi folks,

I was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to let me have the address for darling 1, I have scouted the reports to no avail.

Is it easy to get to, what would I need to tell the taxi driver.

Regards

Lilojo

04-15-06, 13:05

Ferry terminal in Macau is a 3 minute walk to Darling 1.

Go out from the departure level (2nd level) and walk outside. Keep to your left to walk along the elevated walkway to the end. There is an escalator but just take the stairs down.

You would be right at a complex called JaiAlai. This building houses Darling 1 (elevator in the middle of the lobby, just before the cafe), China City Night Club and another Sauna which I think is a pure massage sauna.

If you take a cab, it will take just as much time because it would have to go in a roundabout way.

Lilojo

04-15-06, 13:24

Below are the prices listed for the Fortuna Night Club. Translation anyone? Which goes with what?

茶舞 2pm - 8pm $ 525
晚舞 8pm - 1am $ 625
貓頭鷹 11pm - 4am $ 1,155
早龍 2pm- 8pm $1,493
自由龍 2pm- 1am $1,593
夜龍 12am- 4am $2,083

Gyaos.

Let me try to explain the meaning and not just a direct translation of the characters.

Tea dance, evening dance and night dance prices are lower by just under $1000, however that is just to get you in a KTV room with the a spefic time limit and you can sit and play with the girls. This package would not include the Fuck session. This allows you to back out of the full service and not commit to spending the extra if none of the girls brought to your room suits your taste. This may be a package for an accompanying guest who does not want to indulge fully. If you do find your girl, the extra cost is then added to your bill and last year, it was $1000.

The others are "dragon" packages. In this context. "dragon" is the HK lingo to mean all inclusive or all the way from beginning to end. In other words, the ferry tickets, the KTV room, a drink, snacks, time in the club picking through some of the girls, the F-session in a hotel room and the return ferry ticket to HK. This is slightly cheaper than the previous option to make the customer commit to the full package and not back out.

There is always the sneaking suspicion that the management may not show the super quality girls to the "dragon" package customers. However, the quality is still fabulous.

Good hunting.

Csun213

04-15-06, 16:56

Cebu Local

04-15-06, 23:27

Thanks to a lot of people I now have enough information to get to Maccu however I think I phased my question wrong since I have never been to Maccu airport which is where I want to go so I am asking a question again.

This time the question is what is the best way to go from LO WU in Shenzhen to Maccu airport? My flight is 2pm, what time should I leave Shenzhen? I am also going to post this question on the Shenzhen and Zhu Hai board hoping to get more information from the knowledge members. ThanksI posted detailed instructions how to use the Macau Airport Express link service in the Zhuhai section.Btw its MACAU and you can use the website www.macau-airport.com for Macau airport information

Traveler1234

04-15-06, 23:49

Thanks to a lot of people I now have enough information to get to Maccu however I think I phased my question wrong since I have never been to Maccu airport which is where I want to go so I am asking a question again.

This time the question is what is the best way to go from LO WU in Shenzhen to Maccu airport? My flight is 2pm, what time should I leave Shenzhen? I am also going to post this question on the Shenzhen and Zhu Hai board hoping to get more information from the knowledge members. Thanks

No insult intended but are you taking exam to be travel agent, or what? Your last 10-20++ posts are asking info for hotels, room size, how to get from airport to hotel, yada yada yada. When you're done, post your itinerary and detail notes....maybe we can post as Report of Distinction!

First trip to Asia? Sometimes it's better to just go with the flow....

ROFLMAO :rolleyes:

Cebu Local

04-16-06, 00:00

Traveler1234

04-16-06, 01:36

Well as a Certified IATA Travel Agent .The first thing you learn is to be very patient.But Csun should at least learn to spell MACAU correctly.Traveler I will take care of his questions,But Csun Please dont repeat the same question 3-4 times all over the board.Folks like me and OAH will bump into your questions eventually

You're the man :)

Hope Csun buys you a beer for all of your help and patience...still hopes he returns the favor to all by a couple of FR.

Csun213

04-16-06, 17:55

No insult intended but are you taking exam to be travel agent, or what? Your last 10-20++ posts are asking info for hotels, room size, how to get from airport to hotel, yada yada yada. When you're done, post your itinerary and detail notes....maybe we can post as Report of Distinction!

First trip to Asia? Sometimes it's better to just go with the flow....

ROFLMAO :rolleyes:

I don't mean to offend anyone and this is not my first trip however this would be the first trip for a friend of mine who have never been out of the U.S. and I want to make sure that his trip goes perfectly. I have posted on Shenzhen, Zhu Hai and Macau board because I want to make sure that I would know how to go from Shenzhen to Macau airport. I did not know that members read all the boards. I posted on Macau since that was whyere we would going to, posted on Shenzhen board since that is where we would starting from. I first posted because I orginally wanted to spend a night in Zhu Hai and then go directly across to the border and catch a taxi to the airport since that would be the easiest way however after my post, my friend did not want to do that. He want to go directly from Shenzhen to the Macau airport therefore I had to post agian to get different information. Since I have never gone from Shenzhen to Macau airport and do not want to mess up our trip by missing the flight. Sorry if this offend anyone.

Gyaos

04-16-06, 22:14

I don't mean to offend anyone and this is not my first trip however this would be the first trip for a friend of mine who have never been out of the U.S. and I want to make sure that his trip goes perfectly. I have posted on Shenzhen, Zhu Hai and Macau board because I want to make sure that I would know how to go from Shenzhen to Macau airport.

Come on. KCR East to the Hong Kong helicopter to Macau ($1268HKD -> $1477HKD one way). Easy and good luck!

Lionheart8

04-18-06, 15:36

Just returned from Macau and HK and thought I would post my report while my memory is still fresh. I will post another report in the HK section on one of my selections at Fuji Building (which is turning out to be my favourite hunting ground).

Anyway, back to Macau. To whet my appetite, me and my buddies headed to Lisboa first to check out the "Shark Pit" (I'm sure you know why I called it the shark pit). Anyway, the "sharks" were circling as usual along the corridor. Didn't see any that I liked. We got there around 2 pm which I think is too early. For new folks, I think the best time would be from 4 pm onwards. I think that's when most of the girls wake up after doing an all-nighter prowling the corridors.

Like I said, didn't find anyone I liked but it was nice just enjoying the eye candy. We headed off to 18 Sauna at 6 pm. The plan was to eat dinner at the sauna first before the parade starts coming out at 7.30 pm.

I have to say that the parade appears to have expanded. I think there were easily 60-70 girls that night. It's certainly hard making a selection. Based on my observation though, I think the Vietnamese girls do make an effort to get picked. They will smile and wink at you if they like you. I decided to go for the one that simply kept looking at me and smiling. She did not even bother looking at the other customers. Well, maybe it was her tactic but it worked. I decided to go for her.

Her body message skills are basic. It was nice having her big tits (fake of course) rubbing me all over on the wet table. A few times during the "slip and silde" she came dangerously close to sliding my shaft in (which was not yet capped). I guessed they're well trained enough that it won't happen.

After the body message, she proceeded to the bed where she launched an attack on my dick. Before long, she was heading lower to give my balls a tongue bath....and then lower...and lower....yup, ass rimming time. It was the most intense ass rimming I have had in my life. She was literally tongue fucking my a-hole. That went on for 10 over min. The feeling was intense. She alternated between the AR and the BBBJ. It was hard not to shoot in right there and then. Then she signalled that she wanted to do a 69, which I gladly obliged. But I simply licked around her thigh area while I finger-fucked her. It was nice fucking her mouth though.

When In turned her around, I think she wanted a DFK. Normally I would go for it (since I am into the GFE) but I didn't think I wanted it this time after her intense tongue-fuck on my a-hole. I kiss her on the lips nonetheless. She then capped me and I mounted her. Spread her legs high in the air and pulled it over my shoulders. I then pushed her to her side and did it in a scissors-style (use your imagination lah). Finally turned her over and did the doggy. Her tits were good to hold on too while ramming her from behind. She wanted to go back to her lying down but I was ready to pop when she was turning over. I proceeded to tear off the condom and just came all over her tummy. She looked surprised but I asked her (in Cantonese, which she could speak) whether that was ok. She gave me a smile and said no problem. What a gal!

All in all, I would rate her a 9 out of 10 for her service and attitude (minus 1 was because she started looking at the clock after we were done). She said something like she had to rush off for something (her shift was ending at 10 pm). I was spent anyway so I thought in that case, let's go (my session ended 5 - 10 min early I think). I think I should give myself a 10 for being so understanding huh?

Her BBBJ and AR skills is definitely a 10. FJ was about an 8 while her soapy body massage was a 7.

Lionheart8

04-19-06, 14:24

For Macau, the agencies selling the packages are located on the third floor of Shun Tak Centre (HK-Macau Ferry Terminal), where the ferry tickets are being sold. You won't miss the shops since they have photos of girls everywhere.

They all operate more than one sauna. The one we went to has a sign that says "18 Sauna" on the shop window, amongst others. At 18, they sell various packages. They have:

1) "chuen2 tao4" (full package) which costs HK1430. This includes ferry ticket, entry into the sauna, choosing the girl of your choice (only Taiwanese, Viet and Mongolian. Other categories have to pay extra) for 60 minute F-session and one free 25 min back massage or body scrub.

2) "Zhong1 shi4" (Chinese package) which costs HK930. This includes ferry ticket, entry into sauna, 60 min F-session and one free 25 min back massage/body scrub. The girl you cannot choose. However, if you decided that you want to choose the girl, then add HK500 (before 11% taxes) which will be included in the bill when you leave. If you don't choose, then the sauna will just assign one of their China girls. You might get lucky but then again, you might get one "fuck- face" type. So most people will just pay the extra HK500 to choose from the line-up.

3) "Shang4 hai3 shi4" (Shanghai style) which costs HK740 (with tax). Includes ferry ticket, entry into sauna and 90-min F-session. No free 25 min massage but it's no big deal. At least this one is for 90 min. No choosing of the girl also. If you choose, add HK730 (with taxes) that will be in your bill when you leave. * I personally prefer this package since it's 90 min. No free 25 min massage but like I said, no big deal. And it's only about S$10 more than the firt two packages.

The last package is just for ferry tickets and entry into the sauna. No fuck session. I think it costs HK300 or something like that. I just returned from Macau and wanted to add some new info on the packages. According to the manager, if you do not upgrade, i.e. you don't choose your own girl, and let the sauna mgt assign one for you, then there will be no FS. For example, if you choose the "Zhong1 shi4" (Chinese package) but do not select a girl from the line-up, then you'll only get the body massage and blowjob from the assigned girl. If you choose a girl from the line-up (for an additional HK$500 to HK$1100...depending on the nationality or whether it's supermodel), then it comes with all the above, plus the FS.

For the Shanghai style package, it's 90 min. But you don't get the body massage on the wet table (ie. no slip-and-slide). If you don't select a girl, it's only a handjob service. You'll only get the FS if you select a girl from the line-up.

Hope the above helps you make better choices. For your info, me and my buddies picked the Chinese package. We also selected our girls, enjoyed the body massage, BBBJ, AR and FS (read my report for the details). Later we also went for the free 20-min body scrub that comes with the package.

Crazymofo

04-19-06, 20:53

The first day in Macau I decided to be cheap and asked the Taxi driver for massage places. He took me to one that cost 1300P, I said I wanted cheaper. He then took me to a place that's about 10 minutes ride. Across a bridge. The damage was 1000. The girls were ok. Range between 5-7. Then he took me to another one, the damage was 350-400P. The girls were in the same range 5-7

I took the girl from Mongolia, big tits, tight pussy, but a little bit too big for my taste. Anyways, massage, tongue licking, shower, etc. Here is my issue, while we were doing the Chinese Condom ripped. I didn't know until I wanted to switch position when I noticed. Oh crap! , quick shower and I am getting really worried. She put another rubber and I came like in 5 minutes. But very worried.

After that decided to go to Sauna 18 to check out the girls. The first time there. Let me tell you Sauna 18 has some of the hottest girls I have seen. 865 was the best looking one, but I was too cheap to pay it. There are really some stunners in Sauna 18. You have to check it out.

Next day went to Lisboa hotel to check out the race. Some of the girls are ok. I took one that kept eyeing me. Went up to her room, and it was one of the worse performance ever. NO BJ, no nothing. I was like WTF. But I was like ok. Starting fucking her and then I heard "hurry up". I was like WTF! , I told her to shup up. Finished, got dressed and left. I heard that the performance of the girls in Lisboa are extremely bad.

Next day we went to a KTV. I would recommend you go to the KTV with a group of guys. Going alone is not so good. Get a room, talk to the people, etc. You get to choose 2 girls and eventually you will have to pick up one. Buy 1-2 bottles of spirit and enjoy the time with the girls. If you want short time is 1000P or Long time is 2000P to the girl. So total price for KTV + GIRL = ~2000-3000P (which is roughlk U$300-380). That's a lot of damn money.

Anyways I picked this one girl that kep smiling at me. She was face = 9 body = 9. And she made me feel like Brat Pitt. In fact, she was the only way I picked. My friends had 2 girls each but I just enjoyed my girl a lot. At 2am we took the girls ST. Left the KTV and walked to the rooms.

Now! here is when it gets interesting. This is one of the best sex I had in my life. It was a fuckathon. From 2AM - 8AM. Some nap, then fuck. Kiss, talk, fuck. She told me she came 7 times. I was able to come 4 times in 1 night.

This chick kept telling me how much she liked me, constanly asking me if I liked fucking her. If I liked her, how much she enjoyed getting fucked by me. Wondering why she liked fucking so much. Etc. Etc. We did it on the table, in the shower, standing up. Everything. I had to buy condoms twice from the reception! .

Now here is the scary part. Somewhere in between when we were doing it, the condom ripped again! . WTF. She told me she was about to come and me too! , she grabbed my dick and pushed it inside! after a few more minutes we both came and I popped one inside. (SHIT! ) But at this time I am not thinking with my brain anymore.

Nap time, I woke up with her giving me a BJ. Damn got hard again, and more boom-boom. No condom again and popped another one inside. I popped 2 more times inside until it was 8am in the morning. When we were getting dressed she told me that she was supposed to go back to work because I only paid for ST. So I gave her another 1000. She invited me for breakfast and I think she wanted to tell me something, but never did. Don't know what it was. But now my brain was thinking more clearly and now I am like SHIT! . Need to see the MD.

Next day go to Sauna 18, tried to find 865, but don't see her. None of the other girls float my boat. But it was getting late and I picked 719. From Mongalia and her performance was so bad. She didn't want to BJ until I started complaining. I was like WTF. Anyways after we were finished I joke with her while watching some porn why she didn't do like the movie. Etc. She sucked. Do not pick this girl.

That's it. Now I have to get the TESTS.

Fast Eddie 48

04-19-06, 23:11

Well as a Certified IATA Travel Agent .The first thing you learn is to be very patient.But Csun should at least learn to spell MACAU correctly.Traveler I will take care of his questions,But Csun Please dont repeat the same question 3-4 times all over the board.Folks like me and OAH will bump into your questions eventually

hi CL

May be csun can hire you as a personal tour guide so nothing can go wrong ,
Can't belive this guy have over 200 post senior member and never been out
of the US , I agree with the traveler only way to learn is from your mistake
and being there .

see you soon in manila
fast eddie 48

Hat Trick

04-20-06, 00:34

That's it. Now I have to get the TESTS.

Crazymofo,

Interesting report. Nice to hear you had a good time.

some comments:

How can you pop her from 2-8am into the morning when you only paid ST? ST=short time. Did you pay another 1K to make it LT?

Get checked for STDs once a month for the next 2-3 months just to be sure since there are all kinds of viruses and mutating strains out there that may not be detected within a couple of weeks by a simple blood test. Especially when you said you popped inside her at least 2 times BB.

But what about her? the girl.......you are not worried about the possibility of crazymofo Jr in 9 months or so?

Interesting. Good luck and Keep us posted.

HatTrick

Lionheart8

04-20-06, 08:52

Next day went to Lisboa hotel to check out the race. Some of the girls are ok. I took one that kept eyeing me. Went up to her room, and it was one of the worse performance ever. NO BJ, no nothing. I was like WTF. But I was like ok. Starting fucking her and then I heard "hurry up". I was like WTF! , I told her to shup up. Finished, got dressed and left. I heard that the performance of the girls in Lisboa are extremely bad.

I totally agree. Although I didn't pick one this time round, I am always hearing stories about how bad the service here is. I mean, they do look damn good...but without the service, they're just like a dead fish. Come to think of it, a fish would at least flap around....more action than the Lisboa "shark".

My friend was lucky though, as a girl had actually chatted him up in the coffee shop for a while. She was at least much friendlier to him....almost like GFE. My theory with Lisboa is : don't pick the gorgeous looking ones. Pick the so-so ones since it is likely that they would not have as many customers (or none at all). If you pick them, perhaps they would be more grateful and service you better? Just a theory...perhaps will put it into practice the next time I am in Macau.

Next day we went to a KTV. I would recommend you go to the KTV with a group of guys. Going alone is not so good. Get a room, talk to the people, etc. You get to choose 2 girls and eventually you will have to pick up one. Buy 1-2 bottles of spirit and enjoy the time with the girls. If you want short time is 1000P or Long time is 2000P to the girl. So total price for KTV + GIRL = ~2000-3000P (which is roughlk U$300-380). That's a lot of damn money. Anyways I picked this one girl that kep smiling at me. She was face = 9 body = 9. And she made me feel like Brat Pitt. In fact, she was the only way I picked. My friends had 2 girls each but I just enjoyed my girl a lot. At 2am we took the girls ST. Left the KTV and walked to the rooms.

What is the name of this KTV? Where is it located? Anyway, if the service was so good, then the money was well-spent, even though expensive.

Too bad about the burst condoms. Was it because they're inferior or maybe you've got a huge one?

Lionheart8

04-20-06, 09:02

Oh, I've got to relate this story as I really felt sorry for the man.

Anyway, this was when I was at Lisboa with my friends after we had finished with 18 Sauna. After some quick bets, I won HK$500. Not much I know but enough for a quick pop at the "shark pit" downstairs. At least that's what my friends suggested.

Anyway, I headed down to see whether the cutie I saw that afternoon was still around. If she was, I wouldn't mind taking her even though I was weary about taking the girls at Lisboa. She wasn't around. So we decided to just get something to eat and drink at the coffee shop.

We then saw a Western man (he looks European), somewhat on the plump side, forty-ish, and wearing a Hawaiian shirt and bermudas. He didn't look that bad but for some reason, all the girls simply avoided him. You know they normally would swarm around you saying "qu ma?" (Want to go?) but with this guy, they just ignore him. He obviously wanted to chat one of the girls up but kn one even bothered looking at him. I really felt sorry for the dude. He then went to complain to the security guards standing around but they couldn't understand him. But he had a look of frustration and was gestilating and talking loudly. After about 5 min, seeing that he was going no where with the guards nor the girls, he left.

Has anyone had similar experiences like this? Do the Lisboa girls really avoid Western men?

Cebu Local

04-20-06, 12:08

Crazymofo

04-20-06, 19:00

The KTV was China City KTV. Pretty nice in my opinion..they had A LOT of girls..and at least 3 of them I would have picked. And I am extremely picky with Asian girls!!!

Yes, in the morning I gave my girl another 1000P to for the LT. :-( I am worry about Junior coming out..will have to go back to Macau to check.

Sidenote: I did not see hot girls in the philippines. Are they hiding somewhere? All the bars in Makati had girls from 3-6. Never saw anything above a 7.

Gyaos

04-20-06, 20:49

Now here is the scary part. Somewhere in between when we were doing it, the condom ripped again! . WTF. She told me she was about to come and me too! , she grabbed my dick and pushed it inside! after a few more minutes we both came and I popped one inside. (SHIT! ) But at this time I am not thinking with my brain anymore

Crazymofo,

Always use a sock, no exceptions. Double up, if it breaks. Don't continue, even if she tries to push it inside. That's just dangerous shit, man. The problem with that is you don't know even after your "tests". Not to scare you, just use the highest protections available. Common sense trumps all.

I recommend you get Trojans (brand name) and bring your own anywhere you go. I carry upwards of 15 - 20 in my side pants pocket. If I forget them and left them in my room, I turn right around and get them. If I forget them on the trip itself, then I don't do any FS at all.

Those intimate moments can ruin it for everyone if you don't use a sock. If it breaks, don't let the girl put it inside. If you don't have another, the time on the clock is up, take the girl to the pharmacy with you to get more or let her go. Get the socks, then get another girl. Or have the girl hand-job it from that point. Better choice, because you can always come back with more socks and find more girls. You'll be stiff again.

Gyaos

Fast Eddie 48

04-20-06, 21:46

John Smart

04-21-06, 04:50

Originally Posted by Lionheart8

"We then saw a Western man (he looks European), somewhat on the plump side, forty-ish, and wearing a Hawaiian shirt and bermudas. He didn't look that bad but for some reason, all the girls simply avoided him. You know they normally would swarm around you saying "qu ma?" (Want to go?) but with this guy, they just ignore him. He obviously wanted to chat one of the girls up but kn one even bothered looking at him. I really felt sorry for the dude. "

Loved the story Lionheart. Had to have been a Septic. I mean, who else but Septics have a dress sense like that? Girls obviously afraid of getting Bushwhacked ...

Getting back to the Lisboa pit tho, it is the pits IMHO. Over priced and terrible service. They look great but they dont deliver.

JS

Lionheart8

04-21-06, 09:48

to lion heart

I think it depend on the girls , The hot one that have attitude may be picky
but most girl will hit on anything even middle east and indian guy , some may
have bad experience with westerner , I take to a girl once a japanese dude refuse to pay her the 500 rmb after a 2 min one shot he want a other shot
she said no way in poor english , she will not accept any more non chinese
any more .

fast eddie 48

Well, this guy was rejected by ALL the girls...even those he approached. I also thought that the girls would hit on anyone. Indeed, maybe it was the Hawaiian shirt that killed his chances as Cebu Local mentioned.

Anyway, what this episode tells me is that the Lisboa girls really do have attitude problems. Like bad food in a classy restaurant, they are just good to look at but bad to eat.

Hippie

04-22-06, 02:53

I'm certainly no Macao expert, having spent a grand total of about8 hours there. However, I had no trouble getting attention from the Lisboa girls when dressed in shorts and a t-shirt (dressed "like a tourist" because I was a tourist.) I'm also 40ish and overweight, and I can't believe a Hawaiian shirt is much worse than a t-shirt in the girls' eyes. I wonder if the guy in question had maybe been there before and a girl had had a bad experience with him?

Oh, and as for the recommendation earlier to wear two condoms - DON'T DO IT! This greatly increses the risk of them both tearing. Condoms are designed for contact with flesh, not other condoms.

Nedword

04-22-06, 04:29

Has anyone had similar experiences like this? Do the Lisboa girls really avoid Western men?Thats funny because I am in my mid-40's, an a little plump, just a little now, 185 lbs for 5'9", and I have worn a hawaiian shirt and shorts into the Lisboa, and the girls did not avoid me. I kind of avoided them as I was just looking, but picking one up didn't seem like it would be a problem.

About this plump thing though, just for a minute, the way my shirt hangs I do not look fat. When I am naked, dreched in sweat (or vasiline), standing in front of a mirror, well, I do have some love handles. I call myself stalky.

Beijing Lover

04-22-06, 06:30

Weelock

04-23-06, 07:21

Those Lisboa girls may avoid certain kind of western man if they are to fat – meaning heavy - or if he makes it pretty clear that the size of his penis exceeds the average size.
Word spreads fast in there. The prostitutes there want to make easy money and they do not want to go to bed with a «grease ball» if the suspect that they will get hurt (because of his penis size or his overweight) or that he will take too much of their time.
This has nothing to do with Hawaiian shirts, shorts or sandals.

Beijing Lover

I agree with you about the Hawaiian shirt, shorts and sandals with the Lisboa girls. It has NOTHING to do with what the person wears but the penis part doesn't come to question until it's too late when you are nake.

It more on how the person looks. It also true on looks with Asian men being too old, fat, geeky looking and ugly but more with Westerners. The girls will AVOID you at the Lisboa Hotel since majority of the girls have their standards. If you girls doesn't like you, you can either expect BAD service or NO service.

Weelock

Cebu Local

04-23-06, 09:12

I agree with you about the Hawaiian shirt, shorts and sandals with the Lisboa girls. It has NOTHING to do with what the person wears but the penis part doesn't come to question until it's too late when you are nake.

It more on how the person looks. It also true on looks with Asian men being too old, fat, geeky looking and ugly but more with Westerners. The girls will AVOID you at the Lisboa Hotel since majority of the girls have their standards. If you girls doesn't like you, you can either expect BAD service or NO service.

WeelockWeelock with all due respect,I have a fortyish plump British Business Associate who is a top executive of Hutchinson Whampoa,When We were last in Macau on the way to a meeting at the Lisboa for Dinner with one of Stanley Ho s assistants,He was dressed impeccably in a Finely tailored suit,wearing a Rolex etc.While walking through the basement,You had to virtually beat off the women approaching.How you dress also counts especially If you project money

Weelock

04-23-06, 10:49

Cebu Local

04-23-06, 12:17

Cebu Local:

So if I was very old, fat, weird, ugly nerdy and geeky looking, wearing a nice tailored suit, wearing a Rolex, you are say all the girls will be all over me. I virtually will have to beat off the women at the Lisboa Hotel. Then I guess money counts.

My points is if you at least average looking, it does matter what you wear. You can at least be able to get a girl.
My point exactly If you are at least normal looking,Dress normally.But If you are very old or fat or wierd etc you better dress nice.Just my viewpoint,Best regards

Pointpanic

04-23-06, 18:40

My point exactly If you are at least normal looking,Dress normally.But If you are very old or fat or wierd etc you better dress nice.Just my viewpoint,Best regardsI agree that EVERY mongerer can not get EVERY lady he wants, whether in China, the PI or Thailand. The real hot numbers are usually more selective in their "dates" We have to look presentable, especially as we get older.

I am curious about the Lisboa walkers. Do they come into Macau because they are not usually Cantonese. How long do they stay?

Is there any other hotel that has the walker scenario? Heard about Central Hotel. Are ladies comparable? Why the 11th Floor? Any other hotels?

Also, what is quality of ladies at the Club 18 sauna? Thanks

Tiger 888

04-24-06, 02:02

The 11th floor of the Central Hotel is closed down.

The Lisboa girls must pay a sum between 80000 RMB and easily double that to be brought to Lisboa. (depending on their looks, the better the more exensive) and then repay to their manager, which might take years if ever reachable. And before they made 3000 per day, they are not allowed to sleep.
Furthermore they have to pay their own room.
This is pretty much mafia controlled, and the busines is far not as good as what they are told. I know of a girl who asked after a month to be transferred to a hi class club in Zhuhai, becuase the business is better there. True or not, I can't judge.

Avanza088

04-24-06, 09:54

Yo bros,

To all the newbies who are based in HK and wanna go to macau for a naughty trip, very easy.

Go to the Macau Harbour in HK, go to 3rd floor, and check out the travel agencies. The packages are fully advertised in major HK dailies (chinese) and you can get a feel of the information. Rtff, and you will see some websites of the spas offerings and I can say these are all genuine.

If I can recall correctly, HKD 1388 will get you a two way ferry ticket, drinks, food, massage and screw. (1 - 2 shots) depending.

Standards over at the saunas there are quite good, so no worries. And if you're horny and wants more screws, zhuhai is a more economical choice, (50% cheaper) but if your going on yr own, beware as there's scams everywhere. However, I have a local tour guide over in zhuhai who can arrange for hotels, karaoke, spas, etc all at a very good rate. U must be able to speak mandarin though to carry a decent conversation with the tour operator. PM me for details if you want. But for not for the newbies k.

Fast Eddie 48

04-25-06, 20:22

I agree that EVERY mongerer can not get EVERY lady he wants, whether in China, the PI or Thailand. The real hot numbers are usually more selective in their "dates" We have to look presentable, especially as we get older.

I am curious about the Lisboa walkers. Do they come into Macau because they are not usually Cantonese. How long do they stay?

Is there any other hotel that has the walker scenario? Heard about Central Hotel. Are ladies comparable? Why the 11th Floor? Any other hotels?

Also, what is quality of ladies at the Club 19 sauna? Thanks

to waikiki bob

You mean sauna 18 at the golden dragon hotel near fisherman wharf , Girls is
hot there mostly prc and vietnam very young over 80 girl on weekend and
they said all girl is 18 yr old but I think some girl are older , But the girl is not
as hot as they was when they open 2 yr ago but it is still the top sauna in
macau , central foshan hotel girl is no more 2 yr ago cost is 200-300 st girl is
low quality 5-6 .

If you like low cost on a budget go to zhu hai china just across the border , most girl from china need to buy paper to work in macau most stay 30 days
at a time , most girl don't even speak cantonese only mandarin .

fast eddie 48

Owl_

04-30-06, 10:10

The girls in ZhuHai are cheaper but you need to have a visa to cross the border from Macau if you are from out of the country like myself. It costed me $100 US to obtain a 6 month visa to be able to enter China. But the girls and massage place are cheaper and I had a lot of fun when I was there about a month ago.

to waikiki bob

You mean sauna 18 at the golden dragon hotel near fisherman wharf , Girls is
hot there mostly prc and vietnam very young over 80 girl on weekend and
they said all girl is 18 yr old but I think some girl are older , But the girl is not
as hot as they was when they open 2 yr ago but it is still the top sauna in
macau , central foshan hotel girl is no more 2 yr ago cost is 200-300 st girl is
low quality 5-6 .

If you like low cost on a budget go to zhu hai china just across the border , most girl from china need to buy paper to work in macau most stay 30 days
at a time , most girl don't even speak cantonese only mandarin .

fast eddie 48

Cebu Local

05-01-06, 00:16

Fast Eddie 48

05-02-06, 21:07

Acer V

05-03-06, 05:14

Traveler1234

05-03-06, 13:37

Fast Eddie,
Your HK ID will get you into macau without a visa but it will not get you to China without a visa. For that you must have a Chinese Home Return Permit or some ohter document that gets you into China.

AcerV is on the mark.

And remember if you go that route, you no longer have the protection and services of your home country (consulate/embassy, etc). You are considered a local Chinese citizen!

Cebu Local

05-03-06, 15:07

AcerV is on the mark.

And remember if you go that route, you no longer have the protection and services of your home country (consulate/embassy, etc). You are considered a local Chinese citizen!
Even If you are a US or Canadian Citizen,If you enter China as A Chinese,You are considered a Chinese

Fast Eddie 48

05-03-06, 22:15

Fast Eddie,
Your HK ID will get you into macau without a visa but it will not get you to China without a visa. For that you must have a Chinese Home Return Permit or some ohter document that gets you into China.

Yes acer I do have a china permit , travler is correct If i don't enter china as
a US citizen if any thing happen US embassy in china can't help me because
they have no record of me entering china , china permit is easy to get from
cts in hong kong cost is about $120 hkd good for 10 yr . you need to have
a hk resident id card.

fast eddie 48

Traveler1234

05-03-06, 23:06

Even If you are a US or Canadian Citizen,If you enter China as A Chinese,You are considered a Chinese

Not entirely true....your home country, USA in my case still considers me a citizen and as such affords all the protections extended to any other US citizen, whether he is of chinese or non-chinese descent.

You are implying how the Chinese might and/or would treat you - which might be the case whether you are SARS ID holder, US citizen, Russian citizen but of Chinese descent....which I don't necessarily disagree with.

Re Fast Eddie's comment, US embassy can't help you not because there is no record of your entry .... but because with the chinese re-entry permit, it specifically states that you have voluntarily chosen to enter as a 'chinese citizen and therefore give-up your right' to home country status.

Subtle but important differences.....

Cebu Local

05-03-06, 23:42

Not entirely true....your home country, USA in my case still considers me a citizen and as such affords all the protections extended to any other US citizen, whether he is of chinese or non-chinese descent.

You are implying how the Chinese might and/or would treat you - which might be the case whether you are SARS ID holder, US citizen, Russian citizen but of Chinese descent....which I don't necessarily disagree with.

Re Fast Eddie's comment, US embassy can't help you not because there is no record of your entry .... but because with the chinese re-entry permit, it specifically states that you have voluntarily chosen to enter as a 'chinese citizen and therefore give-up your right' to home country status.

Subtle but important differences.....You are correct that your Home goverment considers you one of its own no matter what.But The Chinese goverment thinks a different way,Canadian of Chinese descent was denied consular access by the Chinese goverment because He entered as a Chinese Citizen in China.It was several months before He got consular access.Even then that was only after a major diplomatic fuss

Traveler1234

05-04-06, 00:15

You are correct that your Home goverment considers you one of its own no matter what.But The Chinese goverment thinks a different way,Canadian of Chinese descent was denied consular access by the Chinese goverment because He entered as a Chinese Citizen in China.It was several months before He got consular access.Even then that was only after a major diplomatic fuss

I agree with your post above.

If you enter as 'chinese citizen' with re-entry permit, Chinese govt can deny you access. And US consulate probably would have difficult time to assist you, since you 'voluntarily' gave up that right by using the re-entry permit rather than USA passport.

If you enter with your USA passport, you are then considered a US citizen by "both" countries, and in theory Chinese govt cannot deny you access. And US consulate in theory has more leverage and legal basis to provide you with assistance.

Spiike

05-06-06, 08:04

Cebu Local:

So if I was very old, fat, weird, ugly nerdy and geeky looking, wearing a nice tailored suit, wearing a Rolex, you are say all the girls will be all over me. I virtually will have to beat off the women at the Lisboa Hotel. Then I guess money counts. SORRY, I have seen most girls will shy away ( AVIOD ) certain type of guys at the Lisboa.

My points is if you at least average looking, it does matter what you wear. You can at least be able to get a girl.I can't believe I'm hearing this. Hookers with standards. You'd have to be pretty damn ugly or deformed to be turned down by these hos. From what Lionheart describes, the guy was not bad looking. My guess is that this chump has been here before and his behavior (obnoxious, twisted, cheap, etc.) has been marked and noted by all the girls. They probably got him pegged. Once you're black-balled, there's no point in even trying.

Cebu Local

05-14-06, 03:10

Jimbehr2000

05-23-06, 08:35

I thought I would report on the Holiday Inn since it is mentioned here often. The renovation is well under way. The rooms have received at least a partial renovation and Oskar's is now open and visited by ladies often. The rooms were better than I expected but I doubt they were completely renovated as the hotel states. They are nice enough though imho. I would guess they are improved from he days of old. Few staff speak English with the exception of the friendly Filipino staff as pointed out by Cebu local in the past. I booked a 720 daily rate through their website for a mid week stay. I don't think this is a great hotel but its decent now. I love the location and would stay there again.

Superforce99

05-23-06, 14:00

Hi Guys
If anybody is going to be in town June 13-14,I will be in Macau/Zhuhai during this time.Johnny It will be a good time for me to introduce you to some of my Macau MGTO contacts.Just PM me.Anybody else available for a beer??Just drop me a PM

Sounds good and I look forward to you treating me to a double fly! Or
should I say a double double fly at a sauna? Ha...

J

Tiger 888

05-24-06, 01:46

Big Boss Man

05-25-06, 06:09

Big Boss Man

05-25-06, 06:30

I bought the Darling 1 package at the Hong Kong Ferry. As you get off the ferry, there are taxi drivers offering you a tour. I ignored them despite their persistance. Go upstairs and there is a walkway into town. You can walk the length of the gambling area in Macau in about twenty or thirty minutes from the Ferry to the Lisboa.

The Lisboa parade was something else. I thought the girls were extremely good looking. I stopped for some lunch and was going to make my move when security showed up and moved most of the girls off the floor. I talked to a Taiwanese guy who knew English and he said it was because they begin to bother the customers. The Taiwanese guy thought the American price was 800hkd athough he could get it cheaper because he spoke the language. I did not play because the one I had my eye on disappeared due to the security.

Took Vietnamese girl at Darling 1. The lineup was about 25 girls at 5:30 PM. She was the one smiling at me. I thought here breasts would be silicone but they were natural. Good service overall. It is a typical Thai bathhouse.

I visited the Sauna 18 and Dragon Club. I was quoted 1700hkd at the Dragon Club for 2 hour. It is the price before 8:30 PM. Sex is on the premises. May, the Mamasan said the price was all inclusive. I may go back and try it out. I saw plenty of beauties there when I was sitting in the lobby.

Lilojo

05-27-06, 15:34

I agree with you. Absolutely no craps game in Macau. There is a dice game to guess the total number on 3 dice. It is called Big/Small, like roulette with 3 dice. Forget about craps and just enjoy the other vice.

I recently spent 3 weeks in HK, Macau and PRC. Normally I would have done Macau 4 or 5 times in that span but PRC (ChangPing, ChangAn, ZhuHai and ShenZhen) was so unbelievably spectacular that Macau was an afterthought. However, I must still say that Macau is THE place to go for the uninitiated. PRC is just a little too convoluted unless you have a guide or been there before.

Hong Kong turned out to be quite succesful for me but it had to do with a very specific encounter and not totally typical. Still, the choices for good service rather than Wham-Bang-Thank-You-Ma'am were much improved over the last 2 years.

Happy Hunting

Superforce99

05-29-06, 07:04

Hey Cebu Local,

I tried to send you a PM but your inbox is full again!

J

Cebu Local

05-29-06, 11:31

Hi Johnny
I am glad the MGTO took good care of you.Regarding PM box,I cleared it out again,But basically Its because of a group of Penang Malaysians going on Sex Safari in the PI,I am getting 4-6 PMs a day from them coordinating this thing,plus the usuall requests for help about the PI.Try again Cheers

Gglee

05-29-06, 15:54

Went to Darling 1. Incredible line up but cost was $1400HKD for 90 minutes. Asked for a girl who could speak English and that had good size natural boobs. Was told only Thai or Vietnamese girl could speak some English.

Was shown an attractive Thai girl with a great rack. I was assured they were natural. Go to the room and you can tell by the feel they are not real. See scar around lower nipple line. She admits it and tells me most think they are real. Go back and the guy running the show acts surprised (give me a frigging break). Look over Chinese crop and they are all attractive but on smaller side. I asked if any can speak English and one smiles and says yes. Take her back and she can say yes or no. She also keeps trying to upsell me to include another girl. I'm getting p***sed off. The guy comes back and says I told you Chinese can't speak English. So I tell him send me a Vietnamese then. He starts giving me a hard time and says I've changed 3 times.

Girl cute but Thai and barely can speak English. Tired of the hassle so I take her. Soap bath, mild pecks, etc here is summary:

Looks: 7/10
Breast: B cup, firm
Body: firm about 5'
BBBJ: 6/10
Catbath: 4/10
DFK: 3/10
DATY: Passed but allowed.
FS: Mish, cowgirl, doggie, very tight but then felt loose
WIR: No. I look forward to HK for more value.

BTW, saw parade in downstairs Lisboa and it is not to be missed. Very attractive. Was quoted 800 HKD and told she had room in hotel. Didn't go but might be better than Darling.

Added note, Darling had separate section of "models" that included a Russian. Much more cost and even though there were one or two stunners, turn them upside down and they all look the same.

Disch

05-30-06, 18:15

Hat Trick

05-31-06, 04:56

I had a futile search for a craps game yesterday. Does any casino offer a game? I tried the Sands and Diamond casinos and asked around the Lisboa. If not found I guess I will have to spend the money on the beauties. Anyone have any knowledge? I will probably spend Friday in Macau. I am leaving Hong Kong on Sunday. Thanks.

There are no craps tables in Macau. I've been searching for three years and have not heard of anything even close to craps in Macau. I was sure Sands would finally have at least one craps table to symbolize American style gambling but NO, No craps table in Macau.

I don't know why. Maybe the game is too confusing or very easy to get into an argument on bets in such a fast paced game. Maybe the Asian gambler crowd doesn't like the craps odds, or just don't like the game. But it's my favorite casino game and I wish they have it in Macau.

Hat Trick

05-31-06, 05:07

sorry for the dup post. I had post this on the Sauna Review and have not seen a reply, so I want to see if any one here has some info.

I am planning to go back to macau in a month or so and want to visit the strip clubs there. I never experience the strip clubs there.

Has anyone been and can share the experience and the cost? How is it different from the Strip clubs in the U.S.A?

Thanks.

There was one very dark and seedy strip club in the Jai Alai casino complex where Darling1 and China City KTV are.
It was years ago and my friend said don't go there it's a waste of money. He said they have strip dances on stage and sex shows and it's disgusting, believe me, it's nothing like the erotic table or lap dances in the US. Almost exclusively Thai or Philipina girls performing and they were either too skinny or too fat.

You will definitely be disappointed if you're looking for US style nude dancing. Stick with KTVs if you want a nice strip show. Or try the Wanchai strip clubs in HK, but I think they're mostly tourist traps too.

Come to think of it, I remember a cabbie recommended a nice strip club with blond sex shows in Macau. He said it was a big hit with the tourists and insists on taking me there first before the Sauna, he said he will wait for me outside until I get out and take me to my original sauna.

I declined his sincere offer saying I was on a tight schedule back to Zhuhai, but I think he gets a commission for dropping me off there.

So your best resource may be Macau Cabbies and report back what you find.

Clitlover

05-31-06, 06:43

I was in HK last week and made a day trip to Macau. I didnt have time to check this forum before going to Macau so didnt know what to expect. But while i was at the HK terminal I saw some advert about the saunas and packages but didnt have time to really check out. Bought a ticket and the ferry was leaving already, just hop on and left. went to do the touristy thing first like visiting the Ah Ma temple and St paul ruins and The square and then the casinos.

On the way to the Sands i saw the sign for Lili massage. I think its spelt this way, I was reading the chinese sign and didnt pay attention to the english sign if there is any. Anyway i think its in the Golden Dragon building. This building is a bit old and the ground floor have a lot of empty lots. I almost missed this Lili massage place which is on the ground floor. The entrance is small and non descript. Its HKD 220 for 90 min massage, HKD 290 for massage with HJ and HKD 500 for full course. I opted for a proper massage. The guy at the counter told me HKD220 gal are older but proper massuer. I said its fine.

Took a shower and then was told to go to the room by the masseur. She is a little plump but with pleasant face, abt mid 30s. She is from china and we chatted in chinese. At first her massage was a little light, i told her to go harder but she said its just to loosen my muscle. then she climbed on me and massaged me by stepping on me. Wow she was good and it really loosen my muscle and bones. She even managed to crack my back bone with her feet. She stepped on my back, shoulder, hands and legs and it was one of the best massages i have.

Then she asked me if i wanted oil massage and massage my "baby". naturally i said yes. She took off my shorts and massage my butt, hmmm this is nice. She will slide her hand into my crack and touch my balls, i told her that its nice and she did it more. After a while of this she sit in front of me with my legs wrapped around her waist she massage my "baby". She is slow and sensous, massaging my tits and balls. I asked her if she could take off her top, she politely decline and said she doesnt do this. I told her i would tip her for taking off her top and let me touch her. She said she is not allowed to accept tips from customer. She even apologized at the end of the massage for not taking off her clothes. At almost 1.5 hrs she told me time was up and need to come, so i concentrated and came. When its done i checked the time, its really 90 min and not like back home sometimes its 45 min instead of 1 hr. Back home some of the gals allow the customer to touch them of course they expect the customer to tip them at the end.

After that i took a shower and went to pay HKD 290. I saw another older ML came out from a room, she was rejected by the client who requested for a younger gal. But to me she was a good looking MILF. Then i saw another pretty and sexy gal went into the room. I asked the guy at the counter and he said she is the HKD290 type. Looks like the selectiion is not bad at all. Will definitely go back for massage or even try the sauna next time i'm at macau.

Disch

06-02-06, 23:56

There was one very dark and seedy strip club in the Jai Alai casino complex where Darling1 and China City KTV are.

It was years ago and my friend said don't go there it's a waste of money. He said they have strip dances on stage and sex shows and it's disgusting, believe me, it's nothing like the erotic table or lap dances in the US. Almost exclusively Thai or Philipina girls performing and they were either too skinny or too fat.

You will definitely be disappointed if you're looking for US style nude dancing. Stick with KTVs if you want a nice strip show. Or try the Wanchai strip clubs in HK, but I think they're mostly tourist traps too.

Come to think of it, I remember a cabbie recommended a nice strip club with blond sex shows in Macau. He said it was a big hit with the tourists and insists on taking me there first before the Sauna, he said he will wait for me outside until I get out and take me to my original sauna.

I declined his sincere offer saying I was on a tight schedule back to Zhuhai, but I think he gets a commission for dropping me off there.

So your best resource may be Macau Cabbies and report back what you find.Hat Trick,

I have also never been to the KTVs in Macau. Are they any different from the ones in Shanghai? I mean, I have never had girls strip in the KTV room.

Can you please tell me your experience and the cost for this?

In Shanghai, its about 680-1100 per room depending the size. This include about 2-4 dozen beers and a friut basket. Every this else is extra.

Take out is 8/short 10/long. Whats cost here in Macau? I think SWs are 800/pop.

It would be nice to have them strip nude and sing for me..

Thanks in advance for any info on what goes on at a Macau KTV that you can share with me.

Disch

Hat Trick

06-05-06, 09:25

well, my personal experiences have been in chengdu and kunming where strip dances by each girl is mandatory. if 12 customers selected 12 girls, then each girl would take turn strip dance (us style) to almost nude depends on how crazy it gets in there. 200rmb for each girl all night (until closing 2-3am). ktv rooms costs 260sm-400med-600lg, unlimited beer and one fruit basket. everything else is extra and overpriced. in these ktvs take out is rare and prohibited by the ktv (prostitution is illegal), but possible by cell. 300-400rmb lt.

now macau is different. depends on which one you goto. the ones heavily advertised are basically trying to push girls on you for st or lt. if you're an experienced player and able to take control of the room you might be able to get some girls to strip, after you have selected her as your choice. in fact, if you're really good you can strip a girl yourself in front of a full room of girls if you want to, it's not illegal. :) or get her to do a strip tease for you. just yell out 'who can do a nice strip dance in here? i'll take her to hk', i'm sure you'll find someone (from kunming or chengdu) if you keep asking that line up after line up. or just ask the mommy. i haven't tried any of the lower end ktvs in macau but i assume the same rule applies, if not lower. your best bets are china city or fortuna ktvs or momo (still closed?), perhaps others here can enlighten you on newer ones with more tricks. take out lt 1k, double fly 2k. st i think about 600? not sure.

if all fails, buy a ticket to kunming and work your way up to chengdu, chongqing, or changsha. inland prices are less than half price from gd, you'll get your ticket cost back after 2 nights of ktv. several kunming girls lost all their clothes playing dice with me and kept playing nude. one crouched and used her left hand cover her breasts so others can't peek through the door or walk in. i grabbed her and everything. it was fun!

or try the macau cabbies. hope this helps. good luck to ya.

hattrick

Ijs51

06-07-06, 06:54

There was one very dark and seedy strip club in the Jai Alai casino complex where Darling1 and China City KTV are.

It was years ago and my friend said don't go there it's a waste of money. He said they have strip dances on stage and sex shows and it's disgusting, believe me, it's nothing like the erotic table or lap dances in the US. Almost exclusively Thai or Philipina girls performing and they were either too skinny or too fat.

You will definitely be disappointed if you're looking for US style nude dancing. Stick with KTVs if you want a nice strip show. Or try the Wanchai strip clubs in HK, but I think they're mostly tourist traps too.The strip club in the Jai Alai is still there, but no sex shows, only pole dancing, no Thai / Filipinos, but caucasian strippers. Used to be Canadian, believe that they are now Eastern European (Romanian?). Very attractive and presentable. No extra services, but would pose nude standing next to you for photos for HK$100 or HK$200 tip.

Most of the clientele seemed to be mainland tour groups (couples as well as single men). Quite a bizarre atmoshpere at times.

Entrance fee was HK$300, got you 1 free drink. In between dances, they would tout special deals at an affiliated massage parlour (maybe Hou Va?) over the PA. Not been there for 2-3 years, so this info may be a little out of date.

By the way, there are *NO* strip clubs in Wanchai, only over priced hostess bars.

Tiger 888

06-08-06, 00:34

By the way, there are *NO* strip clubs in Wanchai, only over priced hostess bars.A year back I met a Nepali girl in the Bridge Bar in Wan Chai, who told me she was working in the only strip Club in Hong Kong which is located somewhere in Central, very secret, strictly members only and only by invitation. Very high class and unbelievably expensive. She wouldn't tell me more. Anyone heard of that?

RCA Knight

06-08-06, 03:18

Stargm

06-08-06, 04:50

A year back I met a Nepali girl in the Bridge Bar in Wan Chai, who told me she was working in the only strip Club in Hong Kong which is located somewhere in Central, very secret, strictly members only and only by invitation. Very high class and unbelievably expensive. She wouldn't tell me more. Anyone heard of that?Do you think it could be Good Fellows on Ice House St. Not really a strip club, more a lap dance place. Private, members only. Can get a little wild sometimes.

Tiger 888

06-08-06, 08:39

Do you think it could be Good Fellows on Ice House St. Not really a strip club, more a lap dance place. Private, members only. Can get a little wild sometimes.No Idea, I might enquire about it. She talked about stripping naked.

I going to Macau for a few days. I checked out the hotels on the websites, and many of them have weekday rates and weekend rates. Is the weekend rate Friday-Sunday night? or Fri-Sat night? or only Sat night?The rates on fridays are higher than weekdays, saturday's rates are higher than friday's and sunday's rates are same as weekdays' rates.

Cebu Local

06-08-06, 09:05

I going to Macau for a few days. I checked out the hotels on the websites, and many of them have weekday rates and weekend rates. Is the weekend rate Friday-Sunday night? or Fri-Sat night? or only Sat night?Its Friday and Saturday Night.I book regularly in Macau,In fact I have 24 people there this weekend and had to pay the higher rate

Marcusau

06-10-06, 03:05

The saunas in Macau are generally quite good and some a very classy but sometimes I feel like a simple, relaxing massage and HJ. I was in Macau with a free afternoon last week so I decided to look for Lili (mentioned by Clitlover recently). This place is extremely hard to find so I'll give some directions to save you all from wandering around for an hour like I did.

First directions. the easiest way to describe it is the way I came across it. It is not in the Golden Dragon Building. It is actually in the Commercial Centro De Macau, which is the building between Golden Dragon Hotel and New Yuohan department store. Exit the Golden Dragon Hotel, walk directly across the road, turn right and go to the corner, turn left and enter the dark, old, mall inside. Ahead of you there is a strangely named Funny Sex Shop. Walk towards it then turn right, walk about 30 feet and Lili is on your right. There are no English names. The attached pics show the sex shop and the entrance to Lili. I also took pics of the menu which also has a map but it is not really helpful because it is way out of scale.

OK, back to the mission. I went inside, confirmed that I was in "Lili" and was shown the menu. I pointed at the 290 Patacas and was told that this is a massage and handjob by the helpful young lady behind the counter. While she led me to the simple shower facilities I was asked whether I wanted a young girl, which of course I confirmed. After showering I was led to a reasonably sized room with a massage table and introduced to a very petite and reasonably cute mainland Chinese girl named Hong. The massage was quite similar to any massage place in Hong Kong and finished with a quite skilful HJ. She kept her clothes on and, as I was really there to relax, I didn't make any further requests. I did get the feeling that Hong ran it stricly by the rules, so I think it may have added unnecessary tension to even try.

Macau has thousands of choices but there seems to be a void between the 100 Patacas straight massage and the 1,000 Patacas sex services. The only HJ I've had at a regular massage place cost me an extra 200 Patacas and she was 50 years old! Lili is different in that the service is clearly described up front and they really do have pleasant young ladies to provide the service. I think I will go back there next time I am in Macau.

Disch

06-14-06, 00:22

thanks hat trick for the info.

i was not planning to head to middle china. but, i may have to go there for a look someday.

i was planning to head to china in about a month, but due to work schedule changes, i will now be going in oct. i will provide my reports when i return. but thats ways off.

in the mean time, i will dig for some more info for my 2 week trip... i can't wait.

well, my personal experiences have been in chengdu and kunming where strip dances by each girl is mandatory. if 12 customers selected 12 girls, then each girl would take turn strip dance (us style) to almost nude depends on how crazy it gets in there. 200rmb for each girl all night (until closing 2-3am). ktv rooms costs 260sm-400med-600lg, unlimited beer and one fruit basket. everything else is extra and overpriced. in these ktvs take out is rare and prohibited by the ktv (prostitution is illegal), but possible by cell. 300-400rmb lt.

now macau is different. depends on which one you goto. the ones heavily advertised are basically trying to push girls on you for st or lt. if you're an experienced player and able to take control of the room you might be able to get some girls to strip, after you have selected her as your choice. in fact, if you're really good you can strip a girl yourself in front of a full room of girls if you want to, it's not illegal. :) or get her to do a strip tease for you. just yell out 'who can do a nice strip dance in here? i'll take her to hk', i'm sure you'll find someone (from kunming or chengdu) if you keep asking that line up after line up. or just ask the mommy. i haven't tried any of the lower end ktvs in macau but i assume the same rule applies, if not lower. your best bets are china city or fortuna ktvs or momo (still closed?), perhaps others here can enlighten you on newer ones with more tricks. take out lt 1k, double fly 2k. st i think about 600? not sure.

if all fails, buy a ticket to kunming and work your way up to chengdu, chongqing, or changsha. inland prices are less than half price from gd, you'll get your ticket cost back after 2 nights of ktv. several kunming girls lost all their clothes playing dice with me and kept playing nude. one crouched and used her left hand cover her breasts so others can't peek through the door or walk in. i grabbed her and everything. it was fun!

or try the macau cabbies. hope this helps. good luck to ya.

hattrick

Disch

06-14-06, 00:27

I going to Macau for a few days. I checked out the hotels on the websites, and many of them have weekday rates and weekend rates. Is the weekend rate Friday-Sunday night? or Fri-Sat night? or only Sat night?Its Fri- Sat nite. Sunday, every one goes home.

I don't know if you are a risk taker, I would get to Macau and go to a travel agent and book the hotel there with them. I book Holiday Inn for both Friday and Sat nite at 500HKD/nite. I think they will give you a bit of a better deal with cash.

Reader123

06-16-06, 11:45

How's the availability and price of rooms this time of the year? Can I walk in to a travel agent and get a room easily or most hotels usually booked?

Warriorxxx

06-17-06, 19:52

Hat Trick

06-19-06, 21:41

I had a ticket which purchased back in mid April for sauna 18 at HKG ferry terminal but I was not able to use it.

How long is the voucher last? is there a expiration for this voucher?

Bejing Lover. Please check your PM.

Thanks.

Most package vouchers purchased at HKG ferry terminal (Shun Tak Center) is good for one month. Same with the ferry tickets. It says so on the back.

How's the availability and price of rooms this time of the year? Can I walk in to a travel agent and get a room easily or most hotels usually booked?

Try the travel agency desks (little booths) at either HKG or Macau ferry terminals (Macau-downstairs), they will always be able to find you a decent room with decent price anytime. For example, New Century Hotel in Taipa is always available for =<500. They take cash only , ATM available at both ferry terminals.

Tiger 888

06-20-06, 13:12

I got a room for the Kingsway Hotel yesterday at the travel agent next to the ticket counter at the Hong Kong China Ferry terminal in TST, at the price of 430. Local agents in Macau sold it at 420 and when I came back today to the Macau Ferry terminal I saw the agents there selling at 410. Not that much of a difference.
A Client of mine invited me to Darling1 for a session. We arrived there at 10.20 pm. the selection was ok but not the best they have. I went for a vietnamese cutie. Was initially looking for a Russian, but she didn't seem interrested until we passed her when se suddenly had a very nice smile. (I thought damned, should have chosen her). But went with the Vietnamese who was really nice. She spoke excellent cantonese, little English. The session was not really GFE, but very skillful and still a good experience. Just one shot, but getting skillfully prepared for the shot over 70 minutes is something special. Nevertheless I would grade the place not really worth all that money, because it is still hit and miss. (He paid 1436 for each of us, minus ferry ticket because we had to go for business anyway, so the net price was 1176).

Fast Eddie 48

06-21-06, 00:00

I had a ticket which purchased back in mid April for sauna 18 at HKG ferry terminal but I was not able to use it.

How long is the voucher last? is there a expiration for this voucher?

Bejing Lover. Please check your PM.

Thanks.

to warrior

You should of pm me I would take it off you for 500 khd , It it no good any more , how come you didn't use it too bad, I went there on april and spend
1400 hkd and stay over night .

fast eddie 48

Warriorxxx

06-21-06, 02:03

Thanks every one for the info. I can not read chinese and do not know.

Had to many to choose from in April and did not have a chance to use it. I am heading back on second week of July and wondering if there is any one here care to go for drinks and a night of tower?

Fast Eddie 48

06-25-06, 03:52

Does any one konw when is the WYNN hotel and casino open exact day , I
am planning a trip to china in aug like to go to macau for a day.

fast eddie 48

Fisher Norway

06-25-06, 06:03

Last I heard was in Sept/Oct/Nov. Was there last month. Look good. I may be present for the opening if time allows.

Does any one konw when is the WYNN hotel and casino open exact day , I am planning a trip to china in aug like to go to macau for a day.

Fast eddie 48

Canning

06-25-06, 09:51

Does any one know when is the WYNN Hotel and Casino open? I need the exact day. I am planning a trip to China in Aug. I'd like to go to Macau for a day.

Fast eddie 48I think that it is opening in Sept, but I am not sure of the Date

Haiphong

06-26-06, 05:26

Does any one konw when is the WYNN hotel and casino open exact day , I am planning a trip to china in aug like to go to macau for a day.

Fast eddie 48Wynn Casino will be opening on September 5th (I have heard that the opening will be late in the evening). Enjoy!

Fast Eddie 48

06-28-06, 04:11

Wynn Casino will be opening on September 5th (I have heard that the opening will be late in the evening). Enjoy!

to everyone

Thanks for the reply planning a day trip to macau before flying back to US ,I
was in macau 2 month ago and the hotel look very nice hope the inside look
better but no way as big as the one in vegas, But in vegas 100 usd only get
you 2 lap dance and 2 drink s not even a hj , I hope that will be the opening
day i need to book my flight back .

fast eddie 48

Reader123

06-28-06, 04:13

Samwise

07-31-06, 01:18

Wynn Casino will be opening on September 5th (I have heard that the opening will be late in the evening). Enjoy!I will be staying at the Wynn Macau early October. This will be my first trip to Macau. I will report from there.

Kj277

07-31-06, 12:36

I will be in macau tonight until August 2nd. I was wondering if anyone was up for a little grtoup mongering. It's more fun that way sometimes. PM me if you're interested.

Fast Eddie 48

08-03-06, 21:43

I will be staying at the Wynn Macau early October. This will be my first trip to Macau. I will report from there.

to samwise

What is the hotel rate at wynn during the week , They are opening on sep 5
correct I was there 2 month ago it look very nice from outside.

fast eddie 48

Tiger 888

08-04-06, 06:28

I had my office in Macau call them.
The Hotel will open on September 6. The normal weekdays rates are 1600-1800, Weekends 2100. Quite steep to my taste for Macau. Lets see what rates the agents will give.

Tiger 888

08-05-06, 10:09

There is a short dicussion in the Zhuhai thread that belongs to here. So here is the link.
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Hsman71

08-06-06, 16:31

Hi bro. in Macus forum out there.

Firstly want to thanks you for making this forum lively.

This is my 1st time Macau trip going to China (Dongguan)via Macau.

Problem is my flight will ariive at about 0200 in the early morning.

My questions are....

a) Can I cross the border to Zhu Hai at the early morning?

If yes, which hotel you recommend to stay in Zhuhai City in the early moning.
Budget of myself and 3 friends are about RMB 200-RMB300 per room per nite.
Pls. provide website and contact no if possible.

If no, what action in Macau can I get?

I believe at Macau currency 300 we cannot get a nite of accomodation in Macau on Friday nite, early Saturday morning.

Pls. advise.

b) If we do not stay in hotel, are there any 24 hours sauna that can accomodate us with luggage until the coming morning.

If with some option for gal service, this will be nice.

Pls. advsie.

c) Anyone can highlight to me the frequency of bus service from Zhu hai to Dogguan (Hou Jie) ??

Thank you all the borthers in advance for the advise.

Thank you.

HS man 71

Superforce99

08-07-06, 09:08

Hey Hsman71,

I hate the feeling of getting to a new place with no/bad information so I'll
tell you what I know.

a) Zhuhai/Macau border closes at 12midnight and opens at 7am. Surpringly,
it is pretty crowded at opening and closing times, I've found it least crowded
around lunchtime/12 noon-ish.

There are a few budget hotels in Macau that range from 200-300 MOP per night.
The Metropole and Kingsway are two that come to mind, especially during the weekdays.
Keep in mind they will be very plain quality rooms and service sucks.

b) All saunas in Macau operate 24 hours a day and I think they allow you to stay in
the facility, with your luggage, for 10-12 hours for the price of a full package
(ranging from 1400-2000 MOP)

This is obviously not your choice if you want to save money, but you can get a Macau
sauna experience, store your luggage, sleep, and eat in one place.

c) Buses leave for Dongguan from Zhuhai every 15 minutes. Specifically to Hou Jie I
think about 1 time every 30 minutes but there are buses to Changping and Dongguan city
as well. It will take about 2 hours to arrive in Dongguan.

Overall, if money is no object for you, I'd recommend you stay in a Macau sauna after
you arrive from your flight, experience a sauan girl, get some rest, go over to Zhuhai,
have a nice lunch, rent a hotel room for a few hours and try a couple of Lian Hua Road
girls, then take the bus to Changping and arrive in time for an afternoon massage followed
by a nice dinner followed by a visit to a sauana. Then a late night snack and cap the night
off with a BBS girl/KTV gal LT in your hotel room. Well, that's what I would do if I had a
couple of free days and some cash, ha ha...

J

Hsman71

08-07-06, 16:07

Bro. Johnnykon666,

Your are the type of people we need on this earth to make human more properous.

Million thanks for your advise.

By the I have been to Dongguan Hou Jie via HK.

This time is via Macau.

The place you mentioned Chong Ping how far is it from Hou Jie?

More action over there compare to Hou Jie ?? as I heard of this place (Chang Ping) before.

Million thanks again if you can guide the humble one another time.

Thanks HS man71

DRRonin

08-24-06, 09:34

After a couple of days in HK and numerous disappointing visits to the 141 girls, my friend and I took the ferry to Macau to see what that brought us. He had been there the year before and had fallen under the spell of a Lisboa girl and spoke of the place like an enchanted land. I was slightly suspect of this and hoped only for something better than the 141 girls in terms of looks. We checked into our hotel and walked down - go into the basement where there is a series of small stores and eating places - and women walking. Lots of women walking - like fashion models on the catwalk - back and forth over a space of ground that was perhaps only eighty feet long - dressed very fashionably and pausing only briefly to chat up some prospective client before moving on. I am not sure what the deal is but these girls are nearly perpetual motion machines except when they take a food break and sit in the restauants. I am not sure if it is the hotel or their mamasan who dictates the rules but clearly simply standing around is verbotten. One time I saw two of them stand against a wall to catch their breath and a woman gestured for them to get back into the marathon. One day when I have nothing to do but count I would love to see how many miles they cover in an average day. They put in long hours as well - at least 12 - sometimes more - how often they hit the jackpot is hard to estimate - on the 2 days I spent time observing it wasn't often but this was not on the weekend where I think buisness picks up a lot.

Did I mention how they look? Ravishing. Some of the women are the best looking I have ever come across in this profession - absolute stunners. Not all of them but if I broke it down by category I would say 10 were knockouts, 15 very nice, 10 more than doable and perhaps five that seemed to be in the wrong place. It was a visual masterpiece as they went thru their paces. I could have watched all day, but my friend breaks out of the gate first with a girl that took his breath away - Ling Ling I think her name was. She asked for HK$1,000. Ouch. I had read numerous posts that HK$500 was the norm though a private email had warned me that the 500 was for Chinese - for non-Asians it would be HK$800. So $1000 seemed a major ripoff and we began a methodical seeking out of the ones we liked - $1,000, $1,000, $1,000, $1,200, $1,000, $1,000, $1,500 (!), $1,000 and so on - one girl in a cute tiger outfit finally says $800. WTF. Do we have "stupid" written on the back of our shirts? We are definitey the only non-Asians in the place and can't get any pity from these girls. My friend finally gives in and takes Ling Ling up to her room on the 6th floor - a very nice room he tells me - and I look at my watch and figure its 5:50pm and that he should be back by 6:30. In the meantime I decide to suck it up and approach a lovely - but with a farm girl fresh face - but when I ask how much and try and use fingers to come to a price she looks like a deer caught in the headlights and rushes off - and begins to cut her 80 foot walk to a 60 foot one to avoid me!

Sure enough my friend is back by 6:30 - he glows - the sex he tells me was pretty standard operating proceedure but he says simply seeing her naked on the bed with the most perfect body he has ever been with was worth it. I can't pull the trigger though - thats about $140 US for thirty minutes - and he tells me that is the max as she started pointing to the clock around the 25 minute point - and I just can't find it in myself to pay that kind of money. I guess I am a cheap bastard but I just know I will be kicking myself afterwards. The problem is that before coming to HK/Macau I had spent 3 weeks in Thailand and will be going back afterwards - where I can be with a girl for $30 for a no clock experience. Still I probably should have bitten the bullet just to be with a girl that lovely.

We run into a black guy who wandered into the Lisboa to look but he tells us that none of the girls will go with him due to his race so he uses the saunas and recommends the Golden something that is just down the street. We go to check out the girls but are not impressed and leave. Later that night we explore around our hotel out of curiosity on a tip that we were given by a Chinese guy we bumped into in the 141's. He told us that girls were available in a number of small hotels and hung out in the lobby and were HK$300-500 and not bad at all. And what do you know - he was right. Up perhaps 5 blocks from the square in the direction away from the Lisboa we found a hotel on the left hand side of the main street - or they found us - because as we walked by a bunch of girls pressed their faces against the glass and invited us in. There were perhaps 12 of them - a few quite nice looking - a notch down from the better Lisboa girls. HK$500 for a massage they tell us - I assumed this meant everything but thought it wise to verify this and so I did a bj motion to ask if this was included - "no no" they claimed - I didn't really believe this but wasn't taking a chance and so went exploring for other hotels. We quickly found one a block in on the other side of the street with another dozen girls - though the sense I got was that only these girls stayed at the hotel and there were plenty more about. This time it's HK$400 with a promise of everything. So much for promises - she takes me to her room on the fourth floor - her roommate is in bed but she tells me not to worry - I was only worried that the roommate wouldn't join us - but this quickly turned into a shit experience. In the shower she basically sprinkles me with water and doesn't take one herself - bad sign - rush job heading my way - she tells me to lie on the bed and asks if I want a bj - I nod my head - HK$200 more she counters - oh hell - ala carte - the $400 got me in the room - everything else was going to be extra. Still by this time I needed relief badly and again nod my head and with my penis still in a state of rest she begins to try and squeeze a condom on - I go no - get it hard first - no no she starts yelling - condom condom - this goes on for about 3 minutes and I was just getting pissed and realized I had gotten myself into a total sucker situation - so I just get up and start getting dressed at which point she starts yelling "money money" at me. I would have loved to have walked out without paying but thought I really didn't want a pimp coming after me so I threw the money on the floor and left. So much for day one.

Later that night I talked to my friend about the whole thing and how much the commercial sex aspect of HK and Macau was turning me off - and I finally realized after all these years that in my journeys around the world in the pursuit of this hobby it wasn't sex I was paying for, but intimacy. The whole process here had nothing to do with intimacy - it was a fast food approach - get them in and get them out as soon as possible and do it the same way every time - little room for personality or chemistry. This just isn't for me. This is why I go to Thailand and Brazil - because for a brief span of time these girls often give you so much more than sex - for a little while I really care about them - but here it was all about shooting the wad and pulling on your pants.

The next day we hit the Lisboa again - me just to look - there were very few of them during the day though and I decided to go to another sauna - not something I really like because it is so structured but I wanted to get laid at least once in Macau! Ended up at Darlings after a lengthy walk - selecton of Vietnamese and Thai girls - the Thai girls were very average but a couple of the Vietnamese girls were beautiful and I had never been with one before. I took one for 1,088 and 90-minutes and had a good time. She was very sweet without a word of English to be had - but a near perfect flawless body. We went thru the process - all the steps they are taught in the order they are taught - if I tried to switch around the order she got slightly confused so I just went with it. When I finished up I still had about 10 minutes of time left and tried to get dressed - but she wouldn't let me! She pointed out that I still had 10 minutes left and could not leave. Ok - we held each other for ten minutes and it was time to go back into the Macau heat. Now I am back in Thailand and feeling like I am home.

Superforce99

08-25-06, 03:48

DDRonin,

Too bad that you didn't have such a great time but I guess it was kind of expected, eh?
I used to have really high expectations for Macau, too, reading all the glowing reports of the
saunas and stuff, but after going there myself, then being able to compare it to options in Mainland China,
particularly South China, I don't see Macau as anything but a place to gamble, have a great meal, and
do some sightseeing. For a 1500 HKD sum, I could eat/relax/fuck my brains out
at great restaurants, hot spring resorts, and nice hotels for 2-3 days in the Zhuhai area.

Just watching the eyecandy on the Lisboa "racetrack" is awesome but remember that the
average gal has to fuck 4 customers per day before she's even allowed to go
to sleep! That's one way to make things impersonal and keep an eye on the clock!

Can't wait to show you the flip side in Zhuhai/South China the next time you come to Asia! Hopefully, you
at least won some cash at the casinos!

J

DRRonin

08-25-06, 05:54

Ya - I really hope to make it to Zhuhai or another Chinese location (Hainan maybe?) that isn't quite so into industrial sex but is a bit more relaxed in its approach. I really found some of these girls to be so good looking that I have to explore some more. I just wonder though if the Chinese sex industry is so controlled by pimps that the 30-minute rush is the norm or the exception?

Four times a day? Makes me wonder all the more why they would not lower their prices for us poor white boys and get one out of the way. Hell if it had been $500 I would have camped out there and taken a bunch but once it goes over that magic $USD 100 mark I start getting very reluctant and compare it to what I can get for that amount elsewhere.

Tiger 888

08-25-06, 07:59

...Just watching the eyecandy on the Lisboa "racetrack" is awesome but remember that the
average gal has to fuck 4 customers per day before she's even allowed to go
to sleep! That's one way to make things impersonal and keep an eye on the clock!...4 customers only if she gets 2 to pay 1000. They need to make 3000 HKD per day.

A Train

08-28-06, 09:46

Manfest

08-28-06, 20:25

I had a nice experience at the Millionaire's sauna at the Beverly Plaza Hotel a few months ago (read previous post), so I decided to repeat. This time, I bought a "Palace style" massage at Shun-tak HK-Macau Ferry terminal. This cost HKD 828, including round trip ferry ride, food, sauna, and one shot FS (the house chooses girl). The sales person was clear about the services included, and that if I didn't like the girl, that I could always send her out and pick another.

The sauna, food, and extras were pretty standard. Most other saunas have the same or better. When I went upstairs for the service, an OK looking girl was chosen. She had a 8 face, 6 body (because of B-sized small chest), and unclear attitude, no obvious smiling or interaction. So I asked if I could change the girl and was told that would be an additional 250 HKD. So instead, I took the original girl and had an ok time. No AR, pretty good body rub, 2 positions for sex with a lot of effort on her part to get me to completion (I was in SZN for almost 3 days with 5 shots total on this trip already). Anyway, I left the sauna after one more meal and sauna, but the problem started at the payment counter. I didn't have any major complaints about the service, I got what I paid for. But at the counter, they requested an additional HKD 418. They were very insistent and quite bit rude. Here I am on vacation, and I certainly didn't need this at the end to ruin the mood. Their calculation was that the ticket did NOT include the round trip ferry, plus 10% tax! I have never heard of such a thing in Macau. I confirmed with the travel service later that the ferry is indeed included, and they also had not heard of 10% tax. The locals do not pay it, and my previous trip, to the same sauna, I didn't pay it (but I got extra services then, so it may have been slipped in).

The bottom line is that they seem quite dishonest, and tried to pull something over someone that didn't speak the language, perhaps was new to the experience. Furthermore, they were quite rude despite me being friendly and calm explaining exactly the service I already paid for. BTW, I know the lay of the land to a certain degree, and am not indignant if people call a higher price to start negotiating. This is not supposed to be that kind of place. They were trying to rip me off pure and simple. My opinion is to avoid this place, there are so many other choices with similar or better services. I haven't heard of similar blatant scams in the other saunas.

-M

Manfest

08-28-06, 20:28

Guys,

Can any of you confirm that you can leave your luggage with the saunas without having to book a hotel room? Yes, they have lockers that hold most sizes of luggage. You can enter once, and leave with your bags, however and cannot leave them behind. Most of the casinos have some kind of baggage check in too.

-M

Hat Trick

08-29-06, 03:54

Guys,

I'll be in Macau for one day and want to spend my time at a sauna or two. I have a backpack and one piece of carry on luggage. Can any of you confirm that you can leave your luggage with the saunas without having to book a hotel room? I don't really plan on using a room as the saunas have everything I need.

Thanks.

A Train

At both (HK-Macau) ferry terminals' basements there are luggage concierge who will hold your luggage for 10HKD per 8 hours I think. Much pleasant time at the saunas this way.

HatTrick

Juplo

09-05-06, 18:48

Hi All,

I've loved hanging out at the Lisboa racetrack watching the ponies going by. Besides the Lisboa, I've not been able to find any overt "workers" in other casinos such as the Sands. If anyone sees any action at the Wynn Macau, it would be great but I'm guessing that hookers will not be able to ply their trade openly.

My tendency is to look in to other "Sauna Only" type places which are sprinkled among the side street between casinos. I'm not sure where Darlings II is and if it's really half the price of Darlings I but I found some other smaller places where I paid less than 600 MOP/HKD for about 90 mins of service.

If anyone sees any interesting action due to the new Wynn opening up, please let us know on this board.

Thanks.

Juplo

Fast Eddie 48

09-05-06, 22:17

Any one been to the new wynn macau casino yet , It should open today .

fast eddie 48

Garcon

09-06-06, 00:00

As a rule of thumb, is it better or worse to visit Macau before, during, or after the Grand Prix?

Thanks!

Buko Max

09-06-06, 02:17

Unless you are into racing, give Macau a pass until things quiet down.

Excelsior

Bill Lee

09-07-06, 05:09

Go after and there's less competition for the girls. Prices will come back down.

Not a day after but give it at least five days.

Bill

As a rule of thumb, is it better or worse to visit Macau before, during, or after the Grand Prix?

Thanks!

Beijing Lover

09-08-06, 09:37

If you are looking for girls, don't come to Macau during the Grand Prix.
Prices are high and suply is short.
Wait at least a week before visiting.

Beijing Lover

Garcon

09-09-06, 00:28

Thank you for your comments. How about the week before the GP?

Squib Boy

09-09-06, 01:16

I'm interested in finding out about the Wynn opening as well, as I am thinking about a visit there in a couple of month. Anyone been there yet?

Fast Eddie 48

09-09-06, 02:32

I'm interested in finding out about the Wynn opening as well, as I am thinking about a visit there in a couple of month. Anyone been there yet?

to squib

Wynn macau open 11.pm on sep 5 china time Steve Wynn is there for the opening ,They have 600 room standard room start at 1800 rmb a night is
across from lisbon casino, I will go to macau next month before canton fair.

fast eddie 48

Hong Kong Boy

09-09-06, 05:38

When are the Grand Prix?

Tiger 888

09-09-06, 06:01

When are the Grand Prix?Guys, please get used to use google for such questions and post the answer rather than the question. It's so easy. http://www.macau.grandprix.gov.mo/mgpc/public_html/en/

Boyle

09-10-06, 15:10

I am new in Macau or even better to the site, can someone directly to where can I find some Romanian Women.

Thank you

Manfest

09-10-06, 23:07

can someone directly to where can I find some Romanian Women.I don't think there is a consistent answer to this question. The girls change pretty frequently. The largest numbers of girls are from China, then Vietnam, then other SEA countries, then a few from Korea and Japan. Russian and EE girls are there, but not many. So, Romanian specific girls might be hard to find. You are in China, after all!

Having said that, Darlings 1 often has a nice selection of caucasian chicks, so that might be a good place to start your hunt.

http://www.bosssauna.com/
http://www.macausauna.com/member/girl.html

These websites have pictures of their girls, so check them out before heading there. Again, they change pretty frequently, so YMMV.

Fast Eddie 48

09-12-06, 22:32

I am new in Macau or even better to the site, can someone directly to where can I find some Romanian Women.

Thank you

to boyle

Why romanian women there is many eastern european , ubeskistan and russian woman in macau , not sure that you can tell the different if you can speak romanian.

fast eddie 48

Beijing Lover

09-13-06, 03:00

Sorry man, never heard of Romanian women in Macau.
But you have plenty of Russian here.

Beijinglover

I am new in Macau or even better to the site, can someone directly to where can I find some Romanian Women.

Thank you

Boyle

09-13-06, 17:22

to boyle

Why romanian women there is many eastern european , ubeskistan and russian woman in macau , not sure that you can tell the different if you can speak romanian.

Fast eddie 48Just a little, would be good to have a conversation. Thank you all the information.

Spam Hog

09-19-06, 07:04

gentlemen:

Will be in Macau soon with filipina Wife, I was wonder if there were any decent night clubs or discos around, not looking to monger or pick up just enjoy an evening away from the tables and slots.

Thanx

The Spam hog

Garcon

09-20-06, 03:13

Brothers,

Is it hard for 2 non-Chinese speaking, Japanese from America, foreigners to play at a Macau nightclub? Which NC would be our best choice?

Thank you!

PhilKrenshaw

09-21-06, 00:41

This is written by a rookie and may only be of use to other beginners. I posted it on the Hong Kong page also.

Take the blue subway line to it's western terminus. Follow signs to the ferry building. You'll end up in a shopping center. Go up to level 3 and you will find all sorts of travel agents. About half of them have posters with pictures of hot girls and sauna names hanging up. Find one with the sauna you want and buy a package. Almost. I asked for a package and was given a list of hotels. I said I already had a hotel but wanted a spa package. "We don't sell those." I looked at the pictures of the babes on the wall and he said, "Oh, you want sex?" I said yeah. "That's a sauna, not a spa." (Well, excuuuse me.) "Which sauna you want?" I picked Darlings 1 since, from reading this site, it seems to be the top of the line, and I was only going to be in Macau once.

Total price was 1464 (they added 30 because I used a credit card) which didn't match the price on the poster, but I don't know what all was mentioned in Chinese on the poster either. This included round trip ferry and 90 minutes at Darlings 1. You can pick when you go, but not when you come back. They say you'll get a return voucher from the sauna.

Coming back--I was in Macau for 3 days. Went to the sauna on day 2 (Wednesday) in the evening. Since the sauna is near the ferry terminal I thought I'd get my return ticked for Friday morning. Found a guy who hangs around giving out return tickets for, I suppose, many saunas, but he would only give me a ticket for the Wednesday evening ferry. He told me to come back Thursday to get a ticket for Friday. On Thursday, the same deal--only tickets for immediate ferrys. Had to wait until Friday morning to get my return ticket. Normally, this may not matter, but I had a plane to catch at the Hong Kong airport and wanted an assured ticket in case the ferry was full.

Maybe this will make things a little easier for the next new guy.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

PhilKrenshaw

09-22-06, 23:18

I was following one of the walking tours in an official tourist brochure. It leads you from the old post office to the inner harbor. Along one of the streets the brochure says "This used to be a red light district." Well, it still is. Lots of girls hanging out in the street (at 10:30 am when I happened by) will grab your arm and ask you to go to their room. Prices mentioned start at 100. I wasn't planning on it, since I was heading to Darlings that night and had already squeezed one out before breakfast, but got a quickie blow job (covered) anyway. The girl didn't speak much English, but we worked things out.

Sorry I don't remember the street name for sure. It might be Rua da Felicidade or one of the streets next to it. Get the brochure to identify it for sure. (I saw the brochure on-line before I left the states. You could web search for a Macau Tourism site with walking tours if you're not in Macau. I think they also have brochures in a Macau booth at the Hong Kong ferry peir, near the travel agencies.) Plenty of restaurants, etc. in the area. Did not feel unsafe at all.

Seemed a lot like the 141s in Hong Kong--small room with a shower and a bed--only instead of checking out the girls on the web then trying to find the room, they are on display for you to pick from and negotiate with in advance.

Tiger 888

09-25-06, 03:37

I am Just back from a sunday in Macau. Went to the Lisboa to find out that some time back the policy there changed. I wondered if I should believe the girl, but later got confirmation from a guy who lives in macau 39 years and knows almost everything there. Before 2 girls coould share a room and the standard price was 500 for one shot. Now they must have their own room each and the price got up to 800. Not worth it anymore since even the gorls are very beautiful, the service may or may not be quite lousy. I am not going to spend 800 for 45 mins on a hit and miss.

Then I went to the walking street behind the holiday in and sat down in the restaurant opposite to watch the scene.
Met two guys there, one about 70+ years(Going to DD Diso regularly, believe it or not) previously working for the Macanese government and an Indonesian guy, 60 years old, living in Macau for 39 years, but not speaking a word of English. Perfect Cantonese though.
I asked them where the action has moved after they closed the club in the mandarin hotel. They said just go to sands.
The Indonesian guy then went with me. I had to set up a chinese style fight with him on who is allowed to pay for the drinks and we sat down at the bar.

Within no time he introduced several girls to me. A Chinese from Haerbin, and a few Indonesians. Then there came 2 girls, one of them considerably hot. (He told me an Indonesian girl ther can be easily had for 300 a night. We will see) I bought her a drink, and in no time we came quite close. She had worked in HK as a domestic helper for 5 years and now works in Macau as such. (I just wonder how she gets the free time to go out until 5 am.) But since I had to go back to Hong Kong the same day, I decided to meet her next weekend.
She went to DD disco after that and I headed back to the ferry (2 am).
I am not going to ruin my remaining hearing capabilities in DD. I do like Discos, but this one is definitely way to loud for me.
I will report again as soon as I have some better insight into the scene.

Beijing Lover

09-25-06, 10:53

There is no problem for foreigners in Macau not speaking chinese.
Regarding the night clubs, hotels like Golden Dragon, Kingsway or Holiday Inn have them.
You can also try China City in Jaialai buiding, right next to New Yaohan mall and Darling Massage Parlour.

Beijing Lover

Brothers,

Is it hard for 2 non-Chinese speaking, Japanese from America, foreigners to play at a Macau nightclub? Which NC would be our best choice?

Thank you!

Beijing Lover

09-25-06, 10:56

For you and your filipina wife I recomend the Xanadu Bar in Sands Casino or the Thirst in Wynn Hotel.
You can also find some entertaiment in the bares in NAPE area (aka Lan Kwai Fong) near the Kun Iam Statue.

Beijing lover

gentlemen:

Will be in Macau soon with filipina Wife, I was wonder if there were any decent night clubs or discos around, not looking to monger or pick up just enjoy an evening away from the tables and slots.

Thanx

The Spam hog

Ghost Address

09-25-06, 14:23

My kingdom for the average asking price of the hotties in the lobby of the Lisboa who have been referred to as 'model' types. I've seen some quotes of 800. Is that MOP or USD? If they're as hot as advertised, that's not a bad price but I understand it's ST. I would pay 1200 MOP for 3 hours or LT, assuming we're talking MOP.

Can someone post some up-to-date numbers on those girls.

Manfest

09-25-06, 16:34

Can someone post some up-to-date numbers on those girls.I have not been to the Lisboa for about 7 months, and did not partake then. I did ask prices, but did not negotiate hard. For really stunning lookers and many non-Chinese, the short time was 1000-1500. I assume long time is triple or so. Many don't do long time because they could easily have more than 3 transactions per night.

Perhaps there is updated info, and local experts should comment.

Beijing Lover

09-25-06, 16:43

Tiger 888

09-26-06, 00:40

500 is the minimum I've been able to get in Lisboa.
I think prices are going up now, but if you go there late at night or in the early hours of the morning you can get a better price, but never below 500.
In the street behind HI prices can go as low as 250mop.
In the inner harbour area prices go as down as 100mop, but so does the quality of the girls.I don't think you can get a price less that 800 st now. If anyone can, please post. The place there is pretty much mafia controlled. The girls had to pay around 80000-150000 to be brought there. Now that fell to around 60000 because the business is not that good. In earlier times a girl was not allowed to sleep until she had revenued 3000 MOP a night (That was 6 customers at old rates. [I only once paid more]). And as I said at the old rules 2 girls could share a room, nowe they have to have one on their own, they have to pay 800 on weekdays and a lot more in the weekends. Do the maths, I think most of them have serious difficulties to pay off their debts. But that is not our problem and 800 is way too much for a ST. LT is almost (99.9%) impossible there.

Superforce99

09-26-06, 02:16

Tiger 888

09-27-06, 00:37

Hey Tiger/Beijing Lover,

I've been to Lisboa myself and have seen the girls, which I must say are very
tall, beautiful, and model-like (most of them anyway), but I have NEVER heard
of a good experience with these gals, either through ISG reports or personal
stories from people I know who've tried. And with ST at 800 MOP now, do these
girls actually make any money? I mean, I can imagine a gal getting 1 or 2 guys
trying her out, but not the 4-6 guys per day that she needs on a consistent basis.

Just curious.

JIn my eyes no way. Considering the large debt they find themselves in on arrival, this is one of the most stupid moves a girl can make. But they are told fantasy stories on recrutationand lured into the job. They may regret the move as soon as they arrive.

But I had 2 girls over the last 2 years who were real GFE. One, after having her room on her own let me stay in for 1000 all included. The other was very nice right after getting there (I went to see her in the afternoon so that she wan't in a rush), but turned too pro like within a few months.
I am not interested in Lisboa any more.

Beijing Lover

09-27-06, 02:54

Hey Tiger/Beijing Lover,

I've been to Lisboa myself and have seen the girls, which I must say are very
tall, beautiful, and model-like (most of them anyway), but I have NEVER heard
of a good experience with these gals, either through ISG reports or personal
stories from people I know who've tried. And with ST at 800 MOP now, do these
girls actually make any money? I mean, I can imagine a gal getting 1 or 2 guys
trying her out, but not the 4-6 guys per day that she needs on a consistent basis.

Just curious.

J

I've had good fun with the girls from Lisboa, but that was like 10 years ago.
At that time the business was not so sofisticated and the girls were more willing to cut their prices down to 300mop.
I agree with Tiger when he says that Lisboa is no longer interesting.
We can find much better deals hunting outside in places like the Sands, DD or the bars in NAPE (Macau's Lan kwai fong).

Beijinglover

Eye Man

09-27-06, 12:10

Tiger 888

10-01-06, 03:04

In two weeks, I am going to Macau, arriving at 7pm and departing on a morning flight at 7:00am. I'm looking for a cheap hotel room in Macau? Girl-friendly would be nice. Price is the primary concern, as I will only there there for a short time. Clean and cheap, if possible.If you arrive between sunday and thursday you can get the Kingsway Hotel for 450 HK$ - not MOP, if you pay with a card they charge a few percent extra (If you arrive friday or saturday, the price will be up to double). Just go to one of the travel agents around the Hotel Grandeur ( 京澳酒店 ). If that is too expensive, sleeping in one of the saunas might be the only way, provided you want to afford to pay the entrance fee. In that case you better leave your luggage in the airport.

Beijing Lover

10-01-06, 10:34

In two weeks, I am going to Macau, arriving at 7pm and departing on a morning flight at 7:00am. I'm looking for a cheap hotel room in Macau? Girl-friendly would be nice. Price is the primary concern, as I will only there there for a short time. Clean and cheap, if possible.

Eye Man

When you arrive you can find a travel agency counter in the airport arrival hall.
You can choose your hotel there and they will either pick you up there or they will give you the address in chinese for the taxi.
Prices are just about the same as in the travel agencies in the city.

Beijing Lover

Tiger 888

10-02-06, 05:41

I had to stay in Macau last night, because last weeks indonesian girl, who turned out to be a freebie, called me that I need to come sunday because she needs to work monday. So I was looking for a hotel: Kingsway, normally 450 was to be 1600. The standard rooms at 800 were all full. The only rooms avasilable at a reasonable rate were Central Hotel 200, but they refused to let me see the room, and i passed, since I heard the place is pretty run down.
I went to Fu Dou Pension on the right hand side a few hundred meters further down the road. The price was 450 instead of normally 250, and the room maybe not much better than Central Hotel. Taxis at 9 pm? Not available. Even in front of Lisboa Hotel crowds waiting and not a single taxi.

So Avoid Macau during the holidays

Went to DD Dico at 3 am, many girls around, mainly Indonesians and Russians. DD Disco has 2 sections: The Chinese one, much too loud techno music, Chinese hanging around in strict groups, dowing buckets of beer.
Then the other room with a nice live band and all the girls. So make sure you turn right once coming down the escalators.

Beijing Lover

10-02-06, 12:21

Cebu Local

10-02-06, 22:23

My brother was just in Macau and He told me the majority of the Lisboa girls have migrated to the Wynn and the Sands.That would coincide with the recent tirade of Stanley Ho that these Casinos lured away many of his high rollers.My brother was staying at the Wynn and confirmed that the Model quality women are now there,I guess the women follow the money.
I will be in Macau later this month,Since My company will be organizing a Macau food festival in Manila together with MGTO and Air Macau.I will deliver my own observations then.Cheers

Iron Man 538

10-03-06, 01:36

I freely confess that I occasionally monger with his wife. We have had a lot of fun in Bangkok, but no luck in either Hong Kong or Macau. I did well by myself in Macau.

I am pleasantly surprised that I actually got some fine white pussy in Macau. A very pretty Portuguese girl. Darlina is Tall, thin, young, very white, and very nice. Long black hair, dark eyes, white-white skin.

The Centro De Massa Massage joint is near the waterfront. Darlina asked for 1,000 HKD for a BJ, and I finally got her down to 700 HKD for bareback no limits. That is less than 100-USD and it was fine, a great fuck.

I had a butt ugly girl come up to me on the street at the waterfront and offer me BJ for 100 HKD, which is as cheap as any Bangkok experience. (= 500 THB)

I saw plenty of girls, all races, on the street at night around the Lisboa Hotel, all were on the game, and were clearly available. The standard street hooker costume in Macau seems to be an ultra short small skirt. Invariably, if I smiled and made eye-contact with any scantily clad girl in the area, she would return the smile and say “hello”, it doesn’t get any easier than that.

There are high-end soapies (“Men’s Pleasure Saunas”) in many of the hotels. I didn’t see a fish bowl in any of them, but some of them have a menu that shows photos and blood types of the girls. One Sauna that we went to (Emperor Hotel) let me see a book that contained sort of a CV of each “model” girl, with photos showing which magazine and film that she had been in. The “exotic models” started at 700-HKD and topped out at 1,500-HKD for two hours of bath + massage + BJ + sex.

The touts at the Macau ferry in Hong Kong assured me that the Sauna at he Emperor Hotel would accept me and my Korean wife together for mixed bi-doubles with two model girls, but in practice absolutely none of the Saunas would take me and wife together. In fact, none of the soapies would take my wife by herself, even. It was only the Centro De Massa Massage that would accept her at all, and then only as a single in a private VIP room. My wife says that her Filipino massage girl masturbated her, but would not eat her.

All in all, Macau was great fun and a good value for me, but only a mediocre experience for my wife. I will definitely go back to Macau alone some day soon, and do some of the high-end soapy girls.

Iron Man 538

Reader123

10-03-06, 07:31

Where are they hanging out in Sands and Wynn? Did they build a "sand circle" for them?

My brother was just in Macau and He told me the majority of the Lisboa girls have migrated to the Wynn and the Sands.That would coincide with the recent tirade of Stanley Ho that these Casinos lured away many of his high rollers.My brother was staying at the Wynn and confirmed that the Model quality women are now there,I guess the women follow the money.
I will be in Macau later this month,Since My company will be organizing a Macau food festival in Manila together with MGTO and Air Macau.I will deliver my own observations then.Cheers

Minkfan1

10-03-06, 09:19

Hi Cebu Local,

About Lisboa women migrating over to Sands and Wynn, is it more discrete there? Or is there a central location where they congregate over at the new casinos?

thanks,

minkfan

Dreamer79

10-05-06, 16:34

I also would like to know where can I find the lisboa girls in Wynn and Sands. And the asking price still at HK$800? Or has it been raised (again)?

Cebu Local

10-06-06, 01:07

They hang around a bar called Tryst in the Wynn.But not all have migrated according to him.Wynn Romes cost much more then Lisboa rooms.

Tiger 888

10-06-06, 02:18

They hang around a bar called Tryst in the Wynn.But not all have migrated according to him.Wynn Romes cost much more then Lisboa rooms.The question is if they have to stay in the hotel in order to hang around there. In the Lisboa they have to. That makes the place so expensive, plus the heavy payment of previously up to 150000 HKD they had to pay in China to be brought to Macau.
To me the sands seems to be a good option.
I even pulled a Indonesian freebie there, who later turned out to be a working girl too. She keeps on calling me even though I told her I am not going to be a customer.

Gigo449

10-07-06, 01:59

Does the Wynn hotel have a sauna like Rio and 18? If so, what is the quality of girls there. Thanks

Restless

10-07-06, 05:19

Buko Max

10-07-06, 17:11

Cebu Local

10-08-06, 01:11

Tiger 888

10-08-06, 03:03

The beach is on the island of Coloane.It is called Haak Sha, ( mandarin hei sha 黑沙 ), black sand, as the sand there is darker that usual.

Beijing Lover

10-08-06, 08:30

Hello Gents,

A while back I noticed someone discussing a beach in Macau. I would like to find the whereabouts of a nice secluded beach, if there is such a thing. Also where is the DD disco located? I tried a search but it came up empty.

Thanks in advance

There are no secluded beaches in Macau.
In fact there are only two: Hac Sa and Cheok Wan.
DD is the the parking lot right in front of Hotel Sintra.
You can't miss it.

Beijing lover

Samwise

10-08-06, 17:16

Does the Wynn hotel have a sauna like Rio and 18? If so, what is the quality of girls there. ThanksI stayed at the Wynn last week for 2 days. They have a really nice spa (for regular massages and body treatments) but no Sauna. Also, went to the Tryst night club around midnight. It was very empty and I didn't see any quality girls.

I tried the Big Boss, and Rio saunas. Both had quality girls. Rio is a lot nicer place but its also a lot more expensive. If I remember correctly, it was HK$1498 vs HK$1798 for the top tier girls. Rio also added 10% or so tax that made it closer to HK$2000. Not worth it is my opinion.

Tiger 888

10-10-06, 00:35

I stayed at the Wynn last week for 2 days. They have a really nice spa (for regular massages and body treatments) but no Sauna. Also, went to the Tryst night club around midnight. It was very empty and I didn't see any quality girls.

I tried the Big Boss, and Rio saunas. Both had quality girls. Rio is a lot nicer place but its also a lot more expensive. If I remember correctly, it was HK$1498 vs HK$1798 for the top tier girls. Rio also added 10% or so tax that made it closer to HK$2000. Not worth it is my opinion.How much did you pay for the Wynn? It found rates at 1400 on weekdays and 2100 on fri/sat.

Samwise

10-10-06, 16:51

How much did you pay for the Wynn? It found rates at 1400 on weekdays and 2100 on fri/sat.I believe it was 2100 for the Grand Delux room with lake view. The hotel is very nice, has good restaurants, casino was very busy, but it seems to have no venues for the hobby.

Garcon

10-11-06, 22:17

Which sauna are Korean girls available?

Thank you!

Ks457

10-12-06, 15:18

so after having rtff, i decided to venture into the wonderful china mongering scene. i'm a new arrival in hk, having been here only about 3 months. i've been to macau once with a non-mongering friend for a few hours. i speak maybe all of 5 words in chinese, all of which i learned on this forum, and i'm an asian-american, so keep that in mind when you read this report.

i was debating between shenzhen and macau-zhu hai for a while, but decided on macau-zhu hai because of its relatively smaller size, wonderful reports by jk, and being able to use english (at least in macau). when the weekend of 9/30 came i was excited as a bunny. however, i got stuck at work, and ended up leaving at around 10 pm. i almost decided against it, but boy am i glad i went.

i went off to the shun tak center carrying only a backpack, my passport (with a 6-month china visa affixed), change of underwear and shirts, and hkd10,000 in cash (i know, it was too much looking back, but back then, i wanted to party, and i heard macau was expensive. plus, i wanted to gamble a little bit as well.)

the first thing i did at shun tak was to buy a macau sauna package. i debated between darling 1 and 18 sauna, but after speaking with an agent at one of the numerous places that offer sauna packages, i learned that the border crossing between macau and zhu hai closes at midnight, opening again at 7 a.m., which would have made it impossible for me to go to zhu hai that night (it was already 10:30 pm). so i decided on 18 sauna, which apparently has a sleeping area and free food, whereas darling 1 doesn't. i figured i'll bide my time at the sauna until the border opens. paid hkd1450, took the ticket, and off i was on the 11 pm ferry out.

arrived in macau a little past midnight, and thought i'd get some gambling fix out of the way. so off i went to the wynn casino, which apparently is the newest and the best player in the block (it was also right across the street from the lisboa, which i wanted to check out sometime during the night). hopped on the cab, the cabbies all know wynn casino.

wynn is very clean and nice, very las vegas-ish. maybe it was the late hour, but the casino, while it had a fair number of people, wasn't as crowded as sands was when i was there about 2 months ago. furthermore, they had hk$100 minimum blackjack tables! after looking around a bit, i took my place at one of the tables with hkd2000, and after two and a half hours, i walked off hkd4000 richer! apparently off to a good start, as i already had my 18 sauna paid for, and then some.

saw the tryst bar on the way out, which is apparently where the ladies migrating from lisboa gather, but didn't know it at the moment. so off to lisboa i went, across the street. from the entrance i went into, it took me a little bit to navigate to the "racetrack" area where the prc ladies circle, and despite the hour (near 3 a.m.) there were quite a few ladies and fellow mongers browsing the wares. and yes, the price is hkd800 short time even at that hour, and they wouldn't budge from that price. (except maybe one or two that will do for 700, but i find that excessive haggling will almost ultimately lead to a bad experience in the sack).

having heard so many bad things about it, i wasn't going to try a sample (i still had the 18 sauna ticket, plus i was going to zhu hai!). but the quality of the girls are pretty good. definitely a lot of 7s, and some solid 8-8.5s. didn't see one i would call a 9 though. girls are generally pretty cheerful and friendly, saying "you go to my room?" (probably the only english they speak), and trying pretty hard for the sell, but still wouldn't budge from the price. there were also quite a few hotel security down there, shooing the girls to move along if they stand haggling with a monger too long. kinda annoying.

at about 3:30, feeling pretty tired, i thought i'd head off to 18, so hopped on the cab and off i went to golden dragon hotel. the guy took my ticket, gave me back the stub for the return ferry, had the locket attendants undress me, and off i was ushered into the sauna area. it's pretty big and nice, and there a few non-so-pretty thai girls in bikinis offering body scrub, but wasn't willing to try. there were quite a few guys there at the moment. i showered and wait for the show, which is about 3 minutes of pretty lackluster strip show then the girls being ushered in. during the first show, i saw maybe about 20-30 girls, and it was a madhouse. there were about 15-20 guys, madly trying to get the pretty one before others took them, and the quality of the girls were good, but not breathtaking or anything. so i passed the first time.

i made my way over to the lounge area, and made myself comfortable on one of the chairs. had a juice, browsed the internet, looked (not read) at the magazines. the tvs were mostly in chinese, and not having anyone to talk to, it was pretty dull for me, not to mention sleepy. when the second show came in around 4:45ish, i made my way out again. only about 25 girls at this time, and the manager explained that it was because of the lateness of the hour, and the best time to come is between 6 pm and midnight. girls in red tags are chinese, and reg tag girls with number starting in 8 are models that you have to pay extra for. i ended up picking 126 (or 129), a taiwanese girl who probably had the cuttest face of the bunch.

i went downstairs to the room, which has the massage table, a bed, and a shower. i'm usually pretty chatty with the girls, but not being able to speak the language is a pretty big downer. still, if you have a good attitude, you still can make the girl laugh with your sign language and gestures. i somewhat bypassed the ice/fire, the bodyslide and all that, as it's somewhat like "been there, done that" for me, and i'd rather concentrate on getting a gfe fj part. from what i know, the bodyslide gets pretty tiring for the girls, and they definitely don't mind passing that part. for my experience, girls have usually had much better attitude if you let it go. this girl wasn't really one of those. she seemed pretty happy that i didn't go through with the bodyslide, but maybe she took me for a chump, and wasn’t very keen on providing a gfe service. nonetheless, she was cooperative to all the positions i requested, made the proper noises (maybe a bit overdone), and i was done after trying 4-5 positions. kinda rushed through the shower, as she kept pointing at the clock to let me know that time was up, and as i walked out, she pointed at my didi and gave a thumbs-up with a smile, probably to say that i lasted quite a long time. yeah, right. i’ll believe that when your dad gets out from the hospital and your brother finishes his med school. hahaha.

now it was around 5:30 am, and i’m quite tired. but upstairs, all the lounge chairs are filled up and i cannot find a place to set my ass down. after waiting another 30 minutes, i finally find a place and get my free (well, included in the package) foot massage for 28 minutes. it was alright, but nothing extraordinary. then i crawled up and got some shut-eye for a few hours. when woke up, it was almost 8 am already (though i wasn’t rested at all), and i wanted to get to zhu hai to start my adventure phase ii. so showered, ate a free egg sandwich and off i went via cab to the gongbei guanxiao (border - sp?). it takes about 20 minutes and 40 mop, as it is on the other section away from the casinos. when i got there, there were tons of people heading both in and out of the building.

even though i already had a chinese visa, waiting at the “foreigners” line took about 1 hour total to get from the zhu hai end to the china side. as soon as i walked out, i must say i was somewhat overwhelmed…all signs in chinese, everyone around me not understanding a word of english, and here i am, not speaking more than 5 words of chinese and all alone, hungry and sweating. well, i wasn’t going to let that phase me. so i thought i would get a map of zhu hai first, which i have somehow neglected to do all this time (i couldn’t find one in any of hk bookstores i went to). so going to one of the travel agencies downstairs in the underground complex, i pointed to a picture of a map on their brochure, to which they pointed to a bookstore just down the hall. go left a few steps as you go down the escalator, turn right, and you’ll see the bookstore straight ahead.

going into the bookstore, i asked for a “map” in english, which they didn’t understand. so i went to look for a chinese-english dictionary. they had several, but i wanted one that was light that i can easily carry. i bought the “newly compiled english-chinese chinese-english dictionary – for high school students” (lol) for 18 yuan, and using that dictionary to point to the word “map,” i also bought an english map of zhu hai. i exited the building and walked my way over to the oh-so-famous lian hua lu. it was about a 20 min walk, and it was a hot day, but i wanted to get a sense of where things were and what’s around.

lhl is a very lively place, and at first, i thought why there were so many cops, until i realized later that they were shopping mall security guards (another lol..). saw the green umbrella street cafes that i’ve read so much about, and made my way to chang an hotel. i gotta say, other than the da hai hotel, which i didn’t try, chang an has to be the most central location next to lhl. anyway, hotel staff also barely spoke english, but they were friendly and trying to help. the room cost was 295 per night for a single (probably the weekend rate), and as i paid in cash, i had to give them 600 yuan, rest being a deposit. so being the good little monger that i am, i went to the room, promptly emptied my wallet of credit cards, and extra cash, stored it into the room safe along with my passport and other valuables, and only carrying my hkid and 1000 yuan in cash, (cuz i'd also read that not having too much can be a problem also if you’re mugged. i strolled out for my adventure.

i wanted to take it slow at first, as it was only 10:30ish or so after walking down lhl all the way down to the bus station (harassed by the sw a couple of times) and coming back, i sat at a street cafe near where i started (second one from the end of the cafe rows, on the same side as chang an), and had coffee, which was pretty good, i must say. this bar had the cutest waitress, and i wanted to see if i can talk her up for a freebie, or something for later. however, there was another dude, a teacher from hong kong, who was already keen on her, and had been visiting zhu hai every weekend in the hopes of becoming her boyfriend, i guess. oh well. it isn’t like i can make the trip to zhu hai every weekend anyhow. but this teacher dude spoke pretty good english, and soon, we were having tsing tao beers and playing dice with the waitresses. it was pretty fun. they all had a good laugh with me trying to put together words with my “high school dictionary” the cutie, whose name i forgot, from guangzhou, seemed to take pretty good interest in me too. but after talking with the teacher dude, i realized he wasn’t a monger, and wasn’t likely going to be my monger buddy for that day. also, didn’t want to pursue the cutie waitress either. i knew what i was there to do. so when they (the teacher dude, and the two waitresses at the bar) wanted to have lunch, i said i had to go and left.

my original plan had been to start off with a sw from lhl short time, as i got a hotel room and everything, and i knew i was going to head back to hong kong that night, as i had to work on sunday (i know it totally sucked…this trip could have been much more fun with another day). while i was sitting at that bar for about two and a half hour, i was harassed about 20 times by sw, some just okay, and some very pretty. it’s a shame, because in the hopes of trying to seduce the waitress, i had to act like i wasn’t interested at all. i think maybe total 20-30 sw in the street at the time. maybe i don’t have the sw like the great johnnykon does, but didn’t see the 60-70 sw that he had mentioned in his previous post. maybe it was the national day issue, and they were expecting crackdowns? i dunno.

anyway, so off i went to chang an good world hotel for my first zhu hai soapie experience. again, the staff spoke no english, and i, using my dictionary, pointed to the words “girl” and “sex” and they got the message alright. pointed to the word “price” and they wrote 298(?) on the pad, to which i said okay and they brought the girls in. they brought in i think 6 girls, who were pretty much 5.5s and 6s. when i asked if i could see more, the manager made a face like that’s something tough to do, and said he didn’t have anymore girls. i think maybe i’ve been had, but it was 2 pm in the afternoon, plus it was the holiday weekend, plus, it was my first time here, and i didn’t want to give them a hard time. from my mongering experience, i thought it was probably wiser to give a good first impression and become demanding later on once we have a relationship. but i was under the impression that i could at least see 2 lineups of 8 girls each. not 1 line up of 6.

so i picked a girl, who was an okay 6, little bit saggy, but pretty big b cup breasts, large nipples, which i like. name and region and number i forget…sorry.. to be a good report, i know i should have asked, but i was 1) really sleepy, 2) very hungry (had no lunch), 3) pretty drunk (not a good drinker, and having downed 6 beers on empty stomach playing dice), so i wasn’t in much of a mood to talk her up with my dictionary.

she showed me on the soapie shower, did the tit rub, no pussy rub, cleaned up and off to the main bed. there, she did the catlick, which was alright (the lick i got at xiang jiangjian this past weekend’s trip was better), and the ice/fire, but wasn’t sure if she used any liquids. i think she pecked at my ah, but that was it was ar. i’ll obviously rtff again, but i would appreciate a sauna where the catlick involves even toes and fingers, and the ar is k-pressure style (long and deep). again, maybe this is the treatment that first-timers get, but i thought the service was only mediocre, but with 298 yuan, who can complain? for the fj, did her mish, cowgirl, then mish, then finished doggy. once it was done, snuggled for about 5 mins, playing with her large nips, then showered and left. it was about now 3 pm, and i was really hungry and kinda nauseous (having shot twice in the past 12 hours, on minimal sleep and food). i wished i had paid better attention to the forum regarding non-sex massage and good food places. all my notes on zh had been focused on mongering.

so walking around trying to find a decent place to eat, i ended up at this kinda dingy back street near lhl that serves noodles, pointed to something that someone else was eating, and got a bottle of water. there was a store right next door that had (and probably serves) live snakes(!). i must say, the noodles quite didn’t suit my taste, and after 3 months in hk, i’m still having a bit of trouble adjusting to chinese-chinese food (as opposed to american-chinese). also it was 7 yuan with the bottled water, so probably the lowest quality food that one can find. i had maybe two bites and that was it.

still, couldn’t end my zhu hai trip with just one shot at mediocre soapie, so back to lhl i went, and finding a seat at a street cafe reasonably distant from the one i was at before (the hk teacher was still there! man, that guy needs to learn to just grab what he wants. he seemed too passive). i ordered an apple juice and waited, with my polo shirt collar up, with the zhu hai map on my hand, and the dictionary on my counter. given the hour (close to 4 pm) i thought there’d be better pickings, but i wasn’t approached at all this time. i could see two active sw trying to solicit in the street, but couldn't identify any other. then i saw one that i thought was maybe a 6 and gave her the eye. as i said, i was really getting tired at this point and just wanted to get my lhl experience and get going. she came along, started talking to me in chinese, which i of course didn’t understand, but she understood my hand signal for how much, to which she pointed two fingers. then i used one of the words i learned in this forum “shuang fei?” she nodded and motioned over another friend of hers nearby (didn’t even see her, came out of nowhere), she was another 6. they quoted 400 for the two of them. i wanted to have a longer session, maybe 3-4 hours, until 8-9 pm when i thought i’d head back to macau, hoping to arrive in hk by midnight or 1 am. so breaking out the pen and paper, started to explain what i wanted using the limited words contained in my dictionary. i pointed to the word “hour” then wrote “4”, then the word “shoot” and wrote “x9999999999999” to indicate unlimited pops, to which the girls laughed but nodded. the price negotiated at 400 each for 4 hours, unlimited pops, which i thought was alright.

so with each girl in arm, headed back to chang an, the inside of which i’ve seen for only 5 minutes up to this point. ignoring the counter, i headed straight to the elevator with no resistance (maybe it was the early hour, maybe they said something but i didn’t understand). it just so happened that there was a western family in the elevator with me, with the old dude staring at me as if asking what the heck i was doing with two girls in heavy makeup going up a hotel elevator. hahaha. went into the room, wasn’t sure how to start, but they both pulled out their cell phones and started making calls, probably to the mama. they talked back and forth for like, 15-20 minutes it seemed. once the call craze died down, i went over and just started peeling off their clothes, then off to the shower we all went (the shower in chang an is pretty tiny. it would have been nice if it had a jacuzzi. any hotel in zhu hai that has that? it would have been nice to take a bath with the girls.

from now on, i’ll refer to the first girl who approached me as the “big one” and the friend that came later as the “little one,” mainly because the little one was so short that the big one looked bigger by comparison. i forget their names, (chinese names still don’t stick to me well), but they are both from the same village in hubei. in the shower, playfully washed each other. the little one seemed a bit shy. it seemed the big one has done shuang fei before, was somewhat leading the little one to play along. (later had told me had done it twice before).

having read all the cautions, i was careful to keep the girls in my sight at all times (although my valuables were all nicely tucked away in the safe), but became more relaxed later on. once on bed, came my favorite part, which is the double bj. the girls switching between the didi and the balls. i had taken pictures of the girls (emulating the venerable johnnykon once again. like johnny~ i wanna be like johnny~ -> sing to the old jordan nike theme song..hehehehe). but when i broke out the camera then, the girls resisted, and the big one started immediately negotiating for an extra tip. she quoted 100 each extra, i countered with 50, to which said no way, (all this written on a pad of paper..haha), so i said okay 100, but i take as many pictures as i want, to which she agreed. after that, whenever i wanted to take a picture and the girls resisted, i simply pointed at the notepad with the numbers written on, and they’d relent.. hahaha the power of a contract!

i probably overpaid a bit for the experience (1000 in all, including the picture ‘tip’), but hopefully not by much to warrant any rebukes. i had a pretty good experience. read on.

after a good bbbj, on came the condom, and the big one started riding me first. then some mish. i wanted the girls to play with each other, as i always do, but the little one was shy. the big one licked the little one’s breasts little bit and fondled them, and the little one played with the big one’s tits while i was pounding her, but that was about all i can get out of them in terms of lesbo play. when i tried a threesome french kiss, when they realized what i was doing, they all frowned and started wiping their tongues with a tissue! hahaha.

anyway, switched the condom and started on the little one on top, and boy, she’s tight. i’m just an average sized asian guy, which means i’m probably somewhat smaller than a caucasian, but the little one, probably due to her lithe frame and small stature, was really tight, almost a hj tight. having shot twice, and being tired, i wasn’t as sensitive, and i was giving it to them pretty good. finally shot my load doggying the little one, while the big one was in doggy right next to her and i was playing with her pussy.

wiped out, i laid there, and we were just chatting a little bit (with the dictionary! of course) which is when i asked where they were from (hubei) how old they were (both 22), how long they’ve been in zhu hai (6 months..ha!)

the little one took quite a liking to me, and was very gfe throughout once the session was over. after little kisses, she kept wanting to french kiss me, but had a bit of breathe issues, so i made her go brush her teeth, and i was also somewhat squeamish about fking a sw, being that this was a first sw experience for me. both had very lightly haired pussies, which i liked.

having washed up, the big one started getting dressed, which made me begin worrying “uh oh, here comes a bad experience where they claim the deal was for 800, and want to leave demanding the money”, but no, she said she was going to go get more condoms, as we had only 1 left from the 3-pack in the hotel room. (next time, i’m bringing some nice once of my own). i was worried that she’d also want an advance on the money (and not show up again), but no, she just went, saying she’ll be back. so just me and the little one in the hotel, and she’s very gfe, cuddling, looking at me in the eye, keep trying to fk me, etc. my hands are roaming over her very small body, and i get hard again. so i make her go down on me, enjoying the warmth of her mouth while watching chinese tv that i don’t understand. pretty surreal experience, i must say. then using the last condom, she rides on top, and she’s pretty excited and into it. but being so sleepy, and now starting to run out of juice, i can’t keep going and have to stop. about an hour later, the big one shows up (the biatch), and brought condoms, but also went home and changed!

dammit girl, you’re on my time. you change when you’re on your time. so it seems while the big one was more experienced, she was also trying to play me, trying to earn her money the easy way. well, i wasn’t going to let her, so when i started peeling off her new clothes again (the white ones in the picture are the ones she had changed into). she said she’s hungry and wants to eat. i was actually pretty hungry too (having had only 1 egg sandwich in macau, and 2 bites of noodles all day), so i said okay. she ordered some food with her mobile, and the little one ate the instant noodles kept in the hotel bar. the food delivery came, 30 yuan which i paid, just some white rice and veggies and pork ribs on top. again, not really to my picky palates, but more edible than the 7 yuan noodles. cuz it was so hot, the big one even fed me the food, blowing on it until it was cooler, which was quite gfe for her.

once done, washed up, i made both girls brush their teeth again (hygiene is very important for me, yet the girls didn’t seem to want to. wack!), then began round 2.5. started with the double bj again, bbbj alternating between balls and didi. no ar, or asked. girls were little skittish about the alternating on my didi with saliva still on it, but this round was better. then on came the hat and started on the big one. because of her attitude and being gone for so long, i wanted to punish her long and hard. my didi had been insensitized enough that i was straight up giving it to her for 30 minutes, with no sign of stopping. then she said she needs some lube and put on the ky, but now i was so tired that i wanted to stop pumping. so on came the little one on top (man, she was still so tight!), while i fingered the big one’s ky-lubed pussy, and i unloaded.

once finished, i was exhausted. but that’s when the girls gave me a new proposition, which was that if i paid them 100 yuan more each, that they can stay the whole night. i was at a dilemma 1) at a cost of us$30 more, spend the entire night with two 22 year old girls and fuck them as many times as i want, or 2) go back to hk so that i can go to work the next day. gee, that’s a tough one.

in the end though, i had to decline (though, very sadly), as i’m working 7 days a week nowadays, and even taking friday night and saturday off was a push for me. and there was no way in the tired state i was in, that i could have gone straight to work the next day. but oh man, the fun i was leaving behind…

so i bid the girls adieu, and that’s when it started getting a little bad. apparently, the girl’s ‘quota’ for the day is 600 yuan, i think, and if they don't meet it, the mama beats them with a coathanger (they showed me the bruises on the arm. those mean mamas), so they had to go a find a new john before they can sleep. the big one even looked up the word “trouble” on my dictionary and showed it to me. then they both started asking for 100 tip each, so they can go home and sleep. but i stayed firm on the original price, saying the agreed price was 800, and i’m already paying them more by paying them 1000. honestly though, i wouldn’t have minded a 100 tip to the little one, as she had a really tight assets which i enjoyed, and she was very gfe, which made the experience pleasant, but didn’t mind sending the big one out to earn her dough. she earned 500 pretty easy with me. i also didn’t want to give in on the principle that i didn’t want to ruin the market, which i also lament whenever i see newbies breaking in and doing. so i stayed firm, to which they both became pouty. then they asked if they can stay in the room for the night, which i wouldn’t have minded, but had to decline as i had to return the room key and the room is registered in my name, and wasn’t sure what the hotel staff would say about it (and i couldn’t communicate in chinese to discuss on the phone). so we all dressed and left. before leaving, the girls both gave me their numbers, which i have, but cannot read the names. i wish i could scan the pages. oh well.

when i was checking out, as i already paid for the room, they checked the minibar use, and i paid additional 40-50 yuan for the noodles, a drink from the fridge and the condoms. got 260 yuan back, and off i was to macau. it was raining slightly outside, and i felt bad about the little one having to go out and find another john in this weather. again, oh well.

the return trip was pretty uneventful, line at the border was long again, took an hour to get out, except once i got on the macau side, trying to avoid the line at the taxi (still raining) i ventured out onto the street area and got completely lost and somewhat scared, realizing that all taxis that come into this area, if any, will go to the border anyway. somehow found a cab, and made my way over to the ferry terminal. word of warning : if you arrive in macau side after dark, no matter how long the line is at the border, catch a cab there. do not venture into the city area, as that area looks pretty damn shady. the mugger would have hit a jackpot with all the cash i was carrying around.

anyway, arrived in hk safe and sound at 1 am, got home at 1:30, and i crashed onto the bed, and slept the sleep of bliss.

after a little over 24 hours after leaving hk, i had 1 shot with a 8.5 at 18 sauna, 1 shot with a 6-6.5 at chang an good world soapie, 2.5 shots with the dynamic duo, 1 attempt at a freebie seduction, 1 meal (.5 meal at 18, and .5 meal with the girls), 2.5 hours of sleep.

the overall cost was : ferry ticket (included in package) + hkd 1450 (18 sauna) + 298y (chang an soapie) + 1000y (big one little one) + hkd350 (misc meals, drinks at the street cafe, taxis) = - hkd 3100

earnings at the casino = 4000.
4000 – 3100 = +900 hkd.

so in the end, i had a while and fun trip, abeit somewhat tiring, and came off 900 dollars richer, which i must say is a pretty good deal. hahaha. i wanted to write this report to contribute to the forum, which gave me the information i needed to enjoy myself, though i probably didn’t discuss anything that it hasn’t already been discussed.

i made another trip this past weekend (just the weekend after this trip) to macau-zhu hai again, and had a good time again, and ended up with a darling 1 thai freebie now to boot! but as it took me two hours to write this report, i’ll report that experience in another post. this is also posted in the zhu hai section. please see that post for the photos.

the numbers of the girls are:
big one:
13539552*7*

little one:
13*97777591

missing digits: what numbers relate to johnnykon’s isg nick? ^^
- if you call, say you got the number from the “han gwuh ren” that saw her a couple weeks back and she’ll probably remember. just be a nice guy to them, and i'm sure they'll appreciate.

enjoy!

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Tom Jefferson

10-14-06, 09:22

I'm planning to visit for a few days in early Nov. Does anyone know if the construction/renovation at the Holiday Inn is finished? Is everything back to the way it was (i.e., Oskar, Mau Mau)? Any other recommendations on comfortable, clean and well-located hotels would be appreciated as well.

Thanks for any help or guidance.Holiday Inn is finished. No more MauMau night club (floor occupied by enlarged Casino now), no more Oscars Bar (space occupied by Casino entrance) and no live music any more.

There is a Lobby bar (no FL) and at the back entrance a small café with FL sitting at outside tables.

Ks457

10-14-06, 09:30

Thanks all for the compliments on my first (real) post…Here comes part deux!

Okay, so after my first ever Macau-Zhu Hai trip, which turned out to be pretty friggin fun, although somewhat tiring, I was excited to take another go. So obviously, I went ahead and went again the very next weekend. (this past weekend).

Having learned from the weekend before that sleep was very important, this time I snuck out of work at 5:30 p.m. (due to the holiday, almost everyone was gone). Off to Shun Tak center I went, with almost the same gear as before (change of shirt and underwear, passport, a PEN – if you do not have one, will have trouble at all immigration posts, which do not have extras lying around – and 7000 HKD cash, my map of Zhu Hai, my “English-Chinese Chinese-English Dictionary for High School Students,” and the printout of various information I collected on ISG.

Bought the package for Darling 1 this time (1400 HKD), as I was actually planning to spend the night in Zhu Hai, and go to Darling 1 on my way back to HK. Got on the Ferry at 6:30, was in Macau by 7:30, hopped on the cab straight away, off to the Gongbei border, was in Zhu Hai by 8:30. As I knew what to do, hopping on the cab, went straight off to Chang An hotel on LHL right away. Even though I made such a fuss with my lack of Chinese skill just the weekend before, the staff didn’t seem to recognize me, although I think the bellboy may have.

From sign language and limited English, they told me that no single rooms were available, and only doubles were available, and quoted 240 yuan. That’s cheaper than 295 I paid for a single on Saturday, so I took it. The room is just about the same size, except that it has two smaller beds instead of one big one. I think one bigger bed is better for the things I had planned. lol.

Nonetheless, after locking up my credit cards, passport and cash away in the room safe, I went to grab a bite at the Chang An restaurant. Again, no menu in English, and staff doesn’t speak English. I actually wanted to have seafood fried rice, so I pointed to “Rice” and alas! My dictionary doesn’t have the word “seafood” lol. So I pointed to the word “sea” instead, hoping she’d understand. She kept trying to talk to me in Chinese, to which I keep nodding. The waitress went away, and taking quite some time, I ended up getting…guess what?...a curry dinner box. And what’s more, it was CHICKEN curry. Lol.

Well, some food is better than no food, and I was keen on keeping my energy for mongering, so I ate it up, probably the most edible food I’ve had in Zhu Hai (although that’s not saying very much). Made a self mental note to definitely find a better restaurant in Zhu Hai for future visits. While eating, I thought about how I wanted to spend my evening, and even though I had a great time with LHL girls, I’m always for exploring new horizons, and I wanted to try the KTV’s in Zhu Hai, which there isn’t much written about in the boards, even though I was traveling alone.

So I first try out the KTV in Chang An, which, according to the bellboy, has 200 ladies. I seriously wanted to check out the famous Chinese lineups of 20-30 girls at a time that I’ve heard so much about. It’s about 9 o’clock when I get down there, and problems occur at the counter where they don’t speak any English. They first try to take me to the bar. No way lady, I’m here to par-tay! So I point to the endless rows of rooms, to which the hostess gets the message and brings me there. Now, the problems occurs, as the only Chinese words I know that would apply in this situation is “shiaojie.” No communication about how much short time is, long time is, what the sitting charges are, what to drink, how long I can stay at the KTV, when the girl will leave, how many girls can I see…all such phrases are sadly not in my dictionary for high school students.

After some frustrating sign language (I was of course careful to smile and be polite at all times. It’s my fault that I cannot speak Chinese, not their fault that they cannot speak English, after all, although I’ve seen foreigners in Hong Kong that seem to not understand that fact. Just my two yuans) and writing numbers and stick figures (yes! Stick figures!) on a notepad, the hostess brings in the manager (a guy) reeking of tobacco and really really bad teeth. From then on, no matter what I tell him, he just seemed to tell me that there were no girls for me, although I’ve communicated with the hostess at the door long enough to learn that it’s 650 for the minimum room charge, 200 for the sitting fee, and 1000 for long time takeout (apparently, short time option isn’t available). He just kept saying “no”. Frustrated, I left. I don’t know if this was because I was a foreigner (even though I’m asian) only speaking English that they didn’t want to serve me, or that they really didn’t have any girls (which I thought at the time impossible, as it was only 9 PM, but now know may have been true). Anyone here been to this place?

So, not to let this experience phase me, I headed over to the hotel area – where Chang An Good World Hotel and GD Regency was, as I’ve heard that there were KTV’s in most hotels in Zhu Hai. Well, that statement is true to some extent. The real truth is, KTVs are EVERYWHERE in Zhu Hai. You don’t realize it as much during the day, but their neon lights come to life once it gets dark, and everywhere you’ll see signs with either “OK” or “K” somewhere in the middle, and many women in Chinese dresses under it. Anyway, I walked up a little bit towards the opposite way from the street cafes on Lian Hua Lu, and after 4-5 mins, I hit GD Regency and Chang An Good World Hotels (realizing that it was retarded of me to take a cab from Chang An Hotel to Chang An Good World last time). I’m on the same side as GD Regency, so I try its KTV first. Again, problem with English at the counter, but they are quickly able to find a woman manager who speaks quite good English, who again tells me that they have no girls available. Incredulously, I ask “It’s only 9:30?” and she says I need to come closer to their opening hour, which is 6:30. Amazing. When I used to party in Korea, things don’t even get started until 10 pm. You show up at 9 pm, and half of the girls haven’t even shown up for work yet!

Anyway, I politely thank her again and leave, and I’ll likely try this place the next time I go, as this looked to be a pretty clean place and the presence of this English speaking manager. I should have gotten her card, but I’m sure anyone who goes will be able to find her. GD Regency is a much nicer looking hotel from the outside than Chang An, and I was thinking maybe I should stay there next time as well. Again, the price quoted here was, 670 for the room charge, 200 for the girl sitting fee, and 1000 (which includes the sitting charge) for the long-time takeout.

Still, not to let two rejections stop me, I asked the manager to recommend a place, which she wouldn’t. So I left and went across the street, towards where Yindo Hotel is, which is the intersection of LHL and Yue Hai road, on the northeast (I think) corner. I again saw a huge “OK” sign, so went in. This place, which I do not know the name of, had the most fancy entrance. Looking at the reports, this is probably the place mentioned in Cn Explorer’s “Zhuhai Report” post. Trying to speak in English at the entrance, they invited me in. There were actually quite a few people sitting at the lounge area, with the singer. None of that for me, thank you very much. Inside the room, they actually found a waitress girl who spoke good English, who once again, told me that no girls are available. CRAZY! I’ve been to 3 establishments, with at least 200 girls each, and I cannot find 1 for myself (well, actually, I was looking for 2, hehehehe). Again, disappointed, I left, saying thank you. Making a mental note to try this place again next time I’m in Zhu Hai, to be waiting at the door for the opening at 6:30. Price? Whopping 800 for the room charge (I think), and 200 for sitting, 1000 takeout.

Now I had officially given up, as I now believed that at 10 pm, I wasn’t going to find a girl for takeout in KTV, at least that I wouldn’t have much choices. So I wanted to try the Xiang Jiang hotel sauna that’s supposedly Johnnykon’s favorite. I asked them where it was, and they couldn’t tell me exactly, so I started walking in that general direction (northwest), and ended up in some dark empty street (kinda scared) with very few people, passing smaller hotels and massage type places (I think) on the way. LHL gets hopping and going until very late at night, but once you go past Yue Hai road on the north side, things stop dead, and there isn’t much going on north of that road. When I started heading left, I walked a long time and saw a couple of barber shops without scissors in the left, to which I peaked in (wasn’t going to stop, as I didn’t want to be on this street alone looking lost), but the quality was pretty bad. I hit the big road (which looking at the map now I realize is Yingbin Nanlu, then heading a few blocks up north to find Xiang Jiang Hotel. Now, having actually walked about 20+ minutes, I was pretty tired, and it was about 10:30 or so.

This hotel also had a KTV, so I said, why not and give it another shot (while not expecting much). Going in, I also pointed to the room, to which they took me, and it was a fairly big room, probably enough to fit 8 people comfortably, with its own bathroom (squatting style..haha, havn’t seen THAT in a long ass time), but it was somewhat dingy. Not what would have been my first choice of a KTV. The name of the place (I actually kept the card for this one, as I ended up staying) is Ming Du Club. Then promptly, a mamasan came in, a women probably in her early 40s, who herself probably had been a working girl at some point. The funny thing was, despite speaking no English at all, she tried the hardest for the sale. She wrote a bunch of stuff in Chinese, which I of course didn’t understand, but enough to understand that the room charge was 630, sitting charge was 200, and the long time takeout was 1000. But could not communicate as to how many girls she can show me, or when the girl will leave in the morning if she comes with me. Really, I should learn at least little bit of Chinese (although I don’t know how much it’ll help) while at saunas it’s less of an issue, but when you’re at a KTV, language can be more of a burden. But heck, it’s only a burden, not an impossibility. I got through it, so it’s obviously it’s still possible, if not difficult.

The mama’s name is Dai Wan Jun, her mobile number is 13326673996, if you want to try this establishment. Anyway, also signaled to me that I can see the girls first, and I said okay, after trying vainly to ask how many girls I can see. She showed me one (ONE!) lineup of maybe 10-12 girls, all of mediocre quality (5-6s). Disappointed, I asked for another lineup. Oh, by this time, another dude, who’s probably in charge of gathering the girls, had joined into this little meeting. They both made faces as if to say there weren’t any more girls, and I took that as the truth, as I’ve been rejected to be shown girls at all at 3 previous places. Nonetheless, I opened my dictionary and pointed to the word “pretty” to which Dai Wan Jun nodded. She kept making calls on her cell, and brought in Ah Jin, a girl from Hubei (I think). Her picture is below. She was actually pretty cute, probably a 6.5-7, except she had no breasts. I told her to wait, and asked Dai Wan Jun for another pretty girl, and frantically explained to her that I’ll play in the room with 2, but will leave at the end of the night with only 1 of them.

She once again nodded and brought in Yo Yo, (her picture is below also), who had been on the first (and only) lineup, and kept saying “pretty, pretty”. I almost fed her a cracker. lol At this point, I was kind of debating. The total cost would if I stayed, would have been 630 for the room (which Dai Wan Jun had quoted), 200 for the girl not picked, and 1000 for the girl picked, making the total cost 1830 for the night (not to mention the tip to the mama, which I would think would be a nice thing to do). Considering the alternative way to get banged in Zhu Hai, it seemed a little (way) too much, although if I was offered that at a room salon in Korea, I would’ve taken the deal in a heartbeat. Thinking for a little bit (with Yoyo and Ah Jin right next to me, to boot), I asked Dai Wan Jun if there was cheaper option (i.e. smaller room, as I’m by myself, or lesser drinks, as I’m not a big drinker). So I opened my dictionary, and pointed to the word “cheap”, and apparently misunderstanding my intent, she started dropping prices! Hahaha. I actually drove a bargain without even knowing. Shaking my head, I tried to explain what I was saying, and she again, misunderstanding what I was going to do, dropped the price of the room to 500, and the long-time charge to 900! Hahaha… I was cracking up inside at the way things were happening. But hey, this time, I was sold, so I said okay and everyone was happy. Next came the difficult part of deciding what to drink, and I opened the book to “wine”, as I didn’t want to drink hard liquor (i.e. scotch), and amidst the conversation between the girls and girl gathering dude (his name is Hua Jian Xin), I overheard “Hong Juo” which I read from Shenzhen threat means red wine, and I stopped them and nodded. So they brought in a small tray of fruits and a bottle of red wine chilled with ice, and the drinking began.

After toasting with both Dai Wan Jun, Hua Jian Xin and the girls, they turned on the karaoke computer, but sadly, the songs in English were pretty lacking. They only had the collection from “best of the oldies,” and I pretty much picked every song that I recognized, which consisted of “beauty and the beast,” “everything I do I do it for you” by Bryan Adams, “Pretty Woman” and various collections by Celine Dion. I made a vain attempt at singing those, and the girls as well as Dai Wan Jun sang a few Chinese songs, to which all danced to. It was pretty good time. Broke out the dice, and I learned on the spot how to play the game in Chinese, so I know how to count to 10 in Chinese now. Saw some fancy dice throwing tricks, courtesy of Dai Wan Jun. I had a good time, although it would have been more fun to be with a friend. Going to KTV alone doesn’t do much, especially when you can’t communicate much with the girls.

Ah Jin was more playful one in the room, but she left for extended period of time (saying she had to go eat, other times Yoyo didn’t even know where she went), and she would not let me touch her at all (other than arm on the shoulder), and no pecks or kisses. Yoyo, on the other hand, was more reserved, not dancing much, and acting pretty shy, but she let me FK her (though short bits at a time), and fondle her soft and real C cup breasts inside the shirt (even popping one out to play with the nipples, before making me put it back quickly..haha, that’s the way to play!), also sometimes lifting up her ultra mini jean skirt to reveal her lacy panties and rub her crotch area, her rubbing mine, kept saying “big! Big!” haha, again, I’ll believe that when they serve real scotch at Chinese KTVs. But fun nonetheless (all that going on while Ah Jin was out, of course).

After about 2 and a half hours of playing, I was ready to head out, so I asked for the bill. Some confusion as to whether I need to pay 500+200+200 now, or pay 500+200 now and give 900 to the girl (I had been set on taking Yoyo for the night). In the end, I asked Dai Jun Wan who she’d recommend, and she recommended Yoyo too. So I said okay and paid 700, plus 200 for Dai Wan Jun and Hua Jian Xin, and took off with Yoyo. She actually looked worse when she lost a bit of makeup, and I was somewhat thinking if I made a wrong choice. Anyway outside, I asked if she was hungry, to which she said yes and we went to eat at a little café just next to the hotel. Yoyo speaks odd words of English here and there. In the café, after ordering the food, she called a friend of her to come see her there. I let her order whatever she wanted, and once the friend came, we said hi (I forget her name). The friend shared some of the food, and Yoyo kept asking me if I thought she was pretty, to which I said yes (just to be polite. The friend was only a 5 at best). Yoyo, I think was trying to see if I wanted to shuangfei with her friend, as her friend probably also works at a KTV, either the one I went to, or another one, and probably didn’t find anyone for long-time (seeing her, can understand why). As much as I’m a fan of the double fly, I didn’t want to go all night with a 5, for god knows how much, considering what alternatives were available. So we said goodbye to her friend, and left to the hotel.

Once there though, the boinking turned out to be much worse than I expected. First off, she wouldn’t let me take any nude pics (the best I could do was with a towel, which is below), no catlick, no more kissing, and she would only blow me for like, 2 seconds, then at my insistence, another 2 seconds, and complain that she doesn’t usually do that, (yeah right), and wanted to put the hat on right away. WTF, so I started providing the service, starting with her nice tits, going down to dine at the Y, which was clean and without any smell. She seemed pretty into it, moaning and grabbing my hair. When I started the FJ, after about 10 minutes or so, she started giving me the “tong~ tong~” treatment (I had also read somewhere in the forum that ‘tong’, which means ‘pain’, and she was pretty much saying ‘it hurts, it hurts’ -> i.e. finish up fast, finish up fast) WTK! I did not pay 900 (well, not yet anyway) to put up with this kinda crap.

Now I was kinda losing interest, so I wanted to finish up before I lost my erection as well. So turned her over for the doggy and pounded furiously until I finished. Definitely not one of better releases. What I’d call a “Handjob with a pussy” sex experience. Once we were done, it seemed Yoyo was become more distant. Not the GFE I hoped for. Anyway, it was getting pretty late, and so we washed up. I had asked Yoyo if she had a boyfriend, to which she said no, but when I was playing around with her cell, I saw pics of her in bed with another dude (probably from HK). So the lesson is, don’t believe anything these girls tell you. They can lie with the straightest of faces, and with such ease. But it seems I NEVER have good experiences going LT with a KTV girl. Zhu Hai or elsewhere. Maybe I’m jinxed. Oh well.

Anyway, went to bed with Yoyo only in undies, and I was pretty beat too. Fell asleep and woke a couple of times with rings on her cell. When I finally woke, it was to the phone call from the hotel, asking me to check out in the next 20 minutes. I had slept until 1:20 pm! So frantically, without even time for second pop, I dressed. By this time, I pretty much lost interest in Yoyo, and probably would have only gone for the second pop only out of obligation to the 900 yuan I’d have parted with. Not a good mentality to have when getting busy. It should be a fun and enjoyable experience.

After I quickly got dressed, I took the money out from the safe (I had exchanged to yuan at the Shun Tak center, but the dude for some reason gave me the yuans for Chinese natives, as opposed to the yuans give to foreiners). I gave her 900 as promised, but then Yoyo pulled another “I’m a bad biatch” trick out of her sleeve. She gave me two notes back, saying they were bad. Of all the things! Grinning, I counted up two more newer notes, which she took. In the lobby, she left with a wave of hand, not so much as a hug. I did the same. I hope to not see her again.

Settled at the hotel, and going outside, I decided to head over to the Xiang Jiang hotel again, seeing as how I didn’t get a chance to try the sauna there last night. I haven’t showered either, so it was a good excuse (like I needed one). Grabbing a cab this time, I got to the hotel again, and went up to the sauna. Now looking at the VIP Card, I do not think this is the sauna on Mongerxx’s “Budget Sauna Tour with Johnnykon” report, that’s supposed to be Johnnykon’s favorite. The VIP card I have says “Xiang Jiangjian Kang Zhong Xin”, whereas that place is “Xiang Jing”. Also, the uniforms in the pic from the ones I saw are different.

Oh well. The price was 328 for 1 girl, and 528 for 2 girls. Of course, I opted for the two girl option. Again, I only got to see 1 lineup of 6 girls, mediocre quality each, and said no other girls were available. When I mentioned shuangfei, I was able to see another lineup of 3 girls, in red dresses different from the uniform of the first lineup. Dunno why. I picked a girl with 6 face and 5 body (no breasts at all), and a girl with a 5 face and a 6 body (nice tits) from the second lineup. I still don’t know when I should be picky, as I still think the prices are a real bargain. The two girls did a good job washing me down, and took turns doing the breast rub, pussy rub, and the catlick. Better service than the one I had last time at Chang An Good World. The big boob girl did most of the body rub. I don’t remember the numbers of the girls, but even if I did, it wouldn’t matter as the girls were nothing extraordinary. Only the prices are.

On to the bed, the big boob girl did ice/fire/ice bj (covered), while the cute-face girl did a short AR. I think the cute-face girl was about to break out the red ropes (yes, they have it at this place) for the oral session, but I think the big-boob girl stopped her, telling her to leave that for just the FJ part. After the catlicks, which the big-boob girl did the pouring mint water on body then sucking it away action (I have no idea what to call it, maybe mouth vacuuming? Something to that extent), the girls put on the red rope. Started with red rope mish on the big boob girl, while the cute face girl kinda shyly stood next to me. I of course wouldn’t let her but let her mouth roam over other parts while fingering her. After some red rope doggy on the big boob girl, switched over to the cute-face girl on red rope doggy, and not getting much pleasure from the red rope, and probably uncomfortable for the girls, I went to the bed. Then after some mish pounding on the cuteface girl while sucking on the bigboob girl’s tits and fingering her, I released. Washed up, pretty satisfied for the money paid, I left, and getting the VIP card, which was 30 yuan (again, another proof that it’s not the same place, because Xiang Jing’s is 50 yuan for VIP card supposedly). Man, if I lived in Zhu Hai, I’d need a separate wallet just for the VIP cards, and they’d all be worth the money I paid for.

Seeing it was near 4 pm, I headed to the McDonalds and headed back to Macau according to my schedule. While the KTV experience didn’t pan out the way I’d hoped, I gathered some info on where to try next, had fun while at the KTV, and a better soapie massage experience made this trip to Zhu Hai another worthwhile one. Besides, I still had the Darling 1 ticket in the wallet to look forward to.

Same long trip back to Macau, and arriving at around 5:30, I headed off to the Wynn casino again, hoping to get a few hours of gambling fix before heading off to Darling 1. Starting with 2000 HKD again at 100 min bet blackjack table, I was hoping play for couple of hours, and maybe make a little bit to cover the cost of this trip, like last time, and head to Darling by around 7-8 pm, being in Hong Kong by midnight…Except this time, I just couldn’t lose! Usually, if you’re lucky, you’ll find 1 dealer that you do pretty well against. This time at the table I was sitting, I was unbeatable against all 3 dealers on rotation. Time kept passing by, and I still couldn’t leave cuz my streak wouldn’t end. When I had several neat stacks of 1000 chips (yes, one thousand dollar chips) in front of me, the pit boss caught up to me and brought in a new dealer, but after losing just one hand to the new guy, I knew it was time for me to jet. Cashing out, I found out that I had become 36,300 HKD richer! It was almost 10 pm at night, and I headed off to Darling 1 feeling pretty damn good. Another trip paid for, and then some.

Once in Darling 1, they had a good selection of Chinese ladies as well as viet and thai. Sitting down at the sofa, ordered ice coffee and spend a little bit of time calming myself down (from the adrenaline rush) and enjoying the attention from the ladies. As I’ve been having too much Chinese(?) the past few days, I decided to go for something exotic and chose a pretty and tall Thai girl who had a great smile.

Okay, from this point on, I’ll keep it short, as it falls in the “bragging” category and not much in terms of information to share. The Thai girl, who I cannot release the name or the number of, gave a wonderful BBBJ, but no AR (and didn’t ask for it), and an enthusiastic service. While chit chatting with her, (as she spoke English, and as it was frustrating being deaf-mute for the past two days for me, I was eager to communicate with the provider) I asked her if there is a good thai restaurant I can go to (I was pretty hungry), and she suggested that maybe she and I go together. Not understanding what she meant, I asked her, and she, with some hesitation and shyness, told me that for 1688 HKD, I can “buy” her time from Darling 1 for two hours. I debated a little bit, but in the end, I said why the f**k not. I had the cash, and it would be fun (and new) thing for me to try. She jumped at joy, and once coming out, took me to a nice Thai restaurant (don’t know where, she spoke to the driver, but it’s in the residential part of town, away from the casino. There was a pretty big park nearby), and had a nice dinner of crabs, shimp cake, and Thai seafood salad. She was very GFE throughout, feeding me, leaning on me, giving me occasional kisses. She asked me to let her buy one more dish to take back to her friends at Darling, and the dinner came out to 500 HKD.

She asked for my mobile and e-mail, and said she’ll e-mail me on her day off. Although I wasn’t expecting much (never should), I gave her the number. She took me back to the ferry (yeah, we ONLY ATE for the two hours. May have been a dumb way to blow 1688 HKD, but in the end, it ended up being all worth it), and it was 2:30 am when I got on the ferry. Got home at 4 a.m. and once again, I fell into blissful slumber.

**she ended up calling me next Wednesday, and I went to visit her in Macau after work, without buying a package this time. (feels weird to actually pay for tickets. Feels like I’m getting robbed. hahaha) After another nice Thai dinner, went dancing at a disco until 3 am, then got a room at Wynn (yeah, I went a bit overboard) where we proceeded to hump like animals in heat until 7 am. I had to take her to her Darling 1-owned apartments and headed out to work straight. Was pretty much unconscious all day at work, but with a big grin in my face. She keeps SMSing me now, and got one message as I was writing this report “Honey, I miss you…” Because I want to keep her around as long as possible, will not release her name or Darling 1 number, but she’s a definite 8.5 in face, and 8 in body (better if it wasn’t for the fake tits)**

So this was another pretty friggin fun trip for me. Although this time, the best part came in the end, Zhu Hai was still very fun and enjoyable. I can’t even begin to imagine the possibilities if I was actually living there!

The total cost for the trip was: ferry ticket (included in the package) + 240 (room at Chang An) + 1800 (KTV, 200 sitting charge for Ah Jin, 500 drinks, 900 LT, and 200 to mama) + 528 (shuangfei soapie) + 1400 (Darling 1, package) + 1688 (2 hours time buy) + 500 (Thai dinner) + 200 (various cabs, other foods)
= 6356 HKD. Add 300 (dinner) + 500 (disco, drinks) + 1850 (room plus tax) if you want to count the Wednesday trip.

Total earning for this trip = + 36,300 at Wynn

Net cost/profit for this trip = 29,944 HKD (give or take a few)

All in all very enjoyable, and looks like I won’t be buying any packages when I visit Macau for a while :). If this trend of making money on mongering trip keeps up, I just may have to give up my job. LOL. This trip was better and worse than the last trip in that KTV experience didn’t pan out like I hoped, but I got more rest this time, and I gotta say, Zhu Hai soapie still kicks ass. Macau was very costly, but man, that was totally worth it too. Just be forewarned though, the experience may not be the same for everyone. I think I was just in a good zone, mongering or gambling-wise, which doesn’t happen much for me either. Many who have mongered for a long time probably know that there are certain short “zones” where every girl you try to seduce will fall, every provider becomes GFE, every lineup you see are hot…things like that.

Thanks for reading such a long post, and I can’t wait to go on another Macau-Zhu Hai trip!!

Please see the post in the Zhu Hai section for the photos of the KTV girls.
Should have taken pics at Xiang Jiang, and sorry, will keep pics of the Darling Thai girl to myself (for now at least) :)

KS

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Cebu Local

10-15-06, 06:56

Ks457

10-16-06, 09:17

Can I sponsor you on a trip to Vegas????Haha.Seriously Great Report and I wanted to help you find Better Zhuhai food Here are some leads Mayflower Restaurant Shuiwan Lu Opposite Gongbei Palace Hotel Clay pot dishes and Sea Food Chang Thong Shuiwan Lu a Thai restaurant.Hong Fulai Restaurant Yuehai Donglu,Seafood dishes.

Here are some Chinese menu items to try in Pinyin niurou mian beef noodle soup xiaren chaomian fried noodles with shrimp Ji Chaofan Chicken Fried rice huntun mian wonton noodle soup guotie potstickers.have fun CheersHi Cebu Local,

Thanks for the compliments. I'm honors to have been noticed by such a reknowned senior member such as yourself! :)

I definitely have to try the restaurants you recommend. Zhu Hai is great, but I've been going around too hungry during those two trips. On a related note, there is a post on Zhu Hai board about a "handicapped meal" service, where 18 yo girls feed you food topless while you can get your hands busy with them, 150 rmb for the food, and 100 for service. Know anything about such service and where those are offered?
As a travel agent providing Zhu Hai trips, I figured you'd be one of the best informed about such things. If I can get food AND girls at the same time, that'll probably be the best, no? hahaha :)

Oh, and you CAN sponsor me for a trip to Vegas, as long as I don't have to win any money! :P

Cebu Local

10-16-06, 23:49

Rats,I was hoping you would gamble using my money and split the winnings.Just Joking Anyway Since We are on the topic of Macau Food Dishes worth trying Portugese Egg Tarts,African Chicken,Green Vegtable Soup Caldo Verde.

For good measure Some more Pinyin Food items haoyou niurou Beef in Oyster sauce Mi zhi Chashao Roast Pork with Honey gali ji Curried Chicken rousi chaomian pork fried rice mantou steamed buns huntun tang wonton soup suanla tang hot and sour soup niurou fan Beef with rice ningmeng ji lemon chicken yaoguo jiding Chicken and Cashews pangxie crab hao oysters longxia lobster kafei coffee kekou kele coke pijiu beer qishui soda Happy eating

Ks457

10-17-06, 14:12

Minkfan1

10-18-06, 09:11

Ks457

10-18-06, 10:42

Hi fellow mongers,

I notice that most of you purchase your packages from Shun Tak Ferry terminal in HK. I was wondering if one can get the same pricing for walkins.

I'm asking because I'll probably go to Macau from ZH, so cannot purchase package in HK.

Thanks,
minkfanMinkfan,

Does google satellite not zoom enough to show the price boards on 18 and Rio? hahahaha..j/k. Definitely enjoying the map guides you post. They are very helpful.

As to your question, the walk-in price you pay at 18 or Rio (or as a matter of fact, probably almost all saunas, including Darling 1, which I know for a fact) is almost exactly same (in fact, few tens of HKD lower, I believe) as the price of the package sold at Shun Tak center. The reason Hong Kong mongers almost always buy the package is, because it includes round trip ferry tickets, which cost around 350HKD, and since they need to get to Macau somehow, they all buy the package. Hence, once you buy one package though, there is no reason to buy any additional packages.

But if you're already in Macau, however, or getting there from places other than Hong Kong, you can't ask for the discount for not using the ferry tickets. I'm afraid you have to still pay the full fare, but rest assurred, the only thing you'll be missing out as a walk-in is ferry ticket. You certainly won't be paying any extra for being a walk-in (in fact, they probably prefer it, as they don't have to give out the cut to the travel agencies for ferry ticket fares).

Hope this answers your question. Boy, I wish I was in Zhu Hai/Macau again...:(

KS

Buko Max

10-18-06, 14:35

I notice that most of you purchase your packages from Shun Tak Ferry terminal in HK. I was wondering if one can get the same pricing for walkins.
Hello Minkfan,

The main advantage for buying a package in HK is that they comp your turbo jet tickets. Also if you decide to stay over in a hotel, you will get a nice discount. So in your case, I think it is virtually the same price.

MegaPoint

10-21-06, 01:34

For good measure Some more Pinyin Food items haoyou niurou Beef in Oyster sauce Mi zhi Chashao Roast Pork with Honey gali ji Curried Chicken rousi chaomian pork fried rice mantou steamed buns huntun tang wonton soup suanla tang hot and sour soup niurou fan Beef with rice ningmeng ji lemon chicken yaoguo jiding Chicken and Cashews pangxie crab hao oysters longxia lobster kafei coffee kekou kele coke pijiu beer qishui soda Happy eating[/QUOTE]May I offer the Cantonese equivalents for some of these (and a few others), since most local people in Macau/Zhuhai/Hong Kong speak Cantonese and may not know these Mandarin terms (or at least, there is the possibility of some confusion.)

Beef in oyster sauce: ho yau ngau yohk/Roast pork: chah siu/Pork with garlic or 'fish fragrance' sauce: yue herng yok see (Mandarin: yu xiang rou ssu)/Sweet and sour pork: gu loh yok/Curried chicken: ga leih gai (also local slang for 'hickey' (love bite)...just to stay on topic!) Steamed bun: mandou/Wonton soup: wuhn tuhn tong/Hot and sour soup: suen laah tong/Beef with rice: ngau yohk fahn/fried rice: chau faan/Lemon chicken: ning mung gai/Chicken with cashew: yiu gwoh gai ding/Spicy chicken with cashew (sometimes peanuts) gung bao gai ding/Crab: haih/Oysters: ho/Lobster: lung ha/Lobster with cheese sauce (a sttrange Hong Kong concoction): jee see lung ha/Coffee: gah fei/Coke: hoh lohk/Seven-up: chut hey/Beer: bei jauh/Soda (all kinds): hei soy/Orange juice: chaang jahp (in Mandarin, chang soy)/Cold water: dung soy/Hot water: yeet soy.

Of course, I cannot give the complicate tones for these terms, but good luck anyway!

Tiger 888

10-22-06, 04:05

For good measure Some more Pinyin Food items haoyou niurou Beef in Oyster sauce Mi zhi Chashao Roast Pork with Honey gali ji Curried Chicken rousi chaomian pork fried rice mantou steamed buns huntun tang wonton soup suanla tang hot and sour soup niurou fan Beef with rice ningmeng ji lemon chicken yaoguo jiding Chicken and Cashews pangxie crab hao oysters longxia lobster kafei coffee kekou kele coke pijiu beer qishui soda Happy eating

May I offer the Cantonese equivalents for some of these (and a few others), since most local people in Macau/Zhuhai/Hong Kong speak Cantonese and may not know these Mandarin terms (or at least, there is the possibility of some confusion.)

Beef in oyster sauce: ho yau ngau yohk/Roast pork: chah siu/Pork with garlic or 'fish fragrance' sauce: yue herng yok see (Mandarin: yu xiang rou ssu)/Sweet and sour pork: gu loh yok/Curried chicken: ga leih gai (also local slang for 'hickey' (love bite)...just to stay on topic!) Steamed bun: mandou/Wonton soup: wuhn tuhn tong/Hot and sour soup: suen laah tong/Beef with rice: ngau yohk fahn/fried rice: chau faan/Lemon chicken: ning mung gai/Chicken with cashew: yiu gwoh gai ding/Spicy chicken with cashew (sometimes peanuts) gung bao gai ding/Crab: haih/Oysters: ho/Lobster: lung ha/Lobster with cheese sauce (a sttrange Hong Kong concoction): jee see lung ha/Coffee: gah fei/Coke: hoh lohk/Seven-up: chut hey/Beer: bei jauh/Soda (all kinds): hei soy/Orange juice: chaang jahp (in Mandarin, chang soy)/Cold water: dung soy/Hot water: yeet soy.

Of course, I cannot give the complicate tones for these terms, but good luck anyway!2 problems with this:
1. The pinyin is no use for someone who does not already know the tomes, since there is no way it can be understood without the right tone.
2. Cantonise has 2 transcritions, where the yale transcription with the numbers of the tones is somewhat easier to write, since for the other ones you need stroked fonts for cantonese, I haven't heard of yet..
Again then both ways you need to know some of the language to read the above post. Can maybe someone post this in Chinese Characters so that if someone else is interested in a special meal, he could print it out and show to the waiter.

MegaPoint

10-22-06, 13:46

2 problems with this:

1. The pinyin is no use for someone who does not already know the tomes, since there is no way it can be understood without the right tone.

2. Cantonise has 2 transcritions, where the yale transcription with the numbers of the tones is somewhat easier to write, since for the other ones you need stroked fonts for cantonese, I haven't heard of yet..

Again then both ways you need to know some of the language to read the above post. Can maybe someone post this in Chinese Characters so that if someone else is interested in a special meal, he could print it out and show to the waiter.Actually, besides the fact that this is getting wildly off-topic, it is the Yale system that uses diacritical marks for the rising and falling tones in Cantonese, and the added h for low tones. The Sidney Lau system and others use numbers, I think.

I am always surprised by the lack of imagination shown around here for figuring out what foreigners mean/want when they don't get the tones right, but in a restaurant it's unlikely that there could be too much trouble.

Remember, however, the white guy who asked in Cantonese, 'Is there any salt?' and got the tones wrong, resulting in his saying to the waiter, 'Are you circumsized?'

Tiger 888

10-23-06, 04:32

Actually, besides the fact that this is getting wildly off-topic, it is the Yale system that uses diacritical marks for thoe rising and falling tones in Cantonese, and the added h for low tones. The Sidney Lau system and others use numbers, I think. You are right, it has been too long ago that I used them to learn. But even googeling about this takes a long time to find out, since even in Wikipedia someone says Lau is using numbers. I was believing that too fast.

I don't think this is too much off topic, since communication is an essential part in travelling which is an essential part in mongering.

Thanks,

Tiger

Sanshiro

10-24-06, 04:31

The Bar in the Mandarin has closed and the replacment is a piano bar...No fun...Any advise on new venues? That bar used to be great.

JoseMarti

10-26-06, 10:35

Tiger 888

10-26-06, 11:55

1) Where can I get a cell phone SIM in Macau? I would need a pre-paid SIM with GPRS access

2) I am new to Macau (a HK veteran) and wanted to know a good place to meet locals and/or DH (domestic help). Most of the stuff I found here was mostly on professional services. I am definelty going to try a pro, but I like the hunt for some DH ;)

Thanks,

-JMIn the Sands Casino, when you stand in front of the bar facing the dancers, to the very right hand side behind the bar is a place where the Indonesian DHs stay. Semi professional though. Different to HK they only work from 11am to 7 pm and don't stay in, so they're pretty much free to do what they want a fter work. Thats at least what my Indonesian friend tells me.

Another place to go is Moon Walker or DD Disco. But many pro's in the latter. Just be aware that DD has 2 sections, the one with the lifeband(Wherre the action is) and the Chinese side where Chinese hang around in strict groups (Quite boring).

I have no idea about GPRS, but prepaid Sim Cards should be easy to get.
I use a SIM Card with a Hong Kong number, where when I receive Calls in Macau it costs 0,6 HKD per minute, the huge roaming charges don't apply, But Macanese still have to dial a long distance call to HK.

Khoofoo

10-26-06, 16:31

First of all, a big thank you to the usual posters around here who have helped us countless lurkers with your useful information. I have been traveling a great deal recently (mostly to first-time destinations) and I have found your information invaluable and typically have not been reciprocating.

I have been traveling thru Hong Kong for the past few days and decided that a brief trip on the ferry to check out Macau would be a good idea.

Mostly based on reports here, I decided upon the Rio Spa (sauna) in the Rio Casino for my one and only experience here.

I must say: this place may rank as the single best mongering experience in the world -- bar none. I have been traveling around and indulging here and there, all over Brazil, Argentina, Europe, Latin America, Thailand, etc. for years now.

I am actually typing up this brief report from INSIDE the Rio sauna on a free flat panel terminal with wireless broadband Internet access that was wheeled over to my recliner as I sip free Chinese tea, free fresh juice, enjoy a vigorous Chinese foot massage, and recooperate from the activities of the past few hours.

Bottom line: it doesn't get much better than this place.

First of all, this place looks like it was designed by the Chinese Ian Schrager. Absolutely gorgeous spa design. This place is absolutely huge and luxurious: endless plasma screens, delicious food, great service, and incredible Feng Shui-style jacuzzis, saunas, steamrooms, etc, etc. .. it's like it never ends.

Based on reports here, I went with one of the packages including ferry ticket from one of the travel agents in the terminal in Hong Kong. I paid HK$1756 (about US$225) which I would have happily paid for the day at the spa alone (because this place is better than any day spa in NYC/London/Paris/etc. that I've ever been to) not to mention the ferry ticket and hour with the beatiful "massage" girl.

I was shown about 40-50 massage girls from which to choose. I am a picky character (and not even really into Asian girls) and I must say I probably wouldn't have kicked any of them out of bed. The best of the bunch would fit right in on any catwalk in Shanghai.

I was the only "gweilo" (round-eye) here, but I was treated very well and as far as I can tell (after chatting with the local Hong Kong Chinese fellow next to me) I wasn't charged any differently than the locals.

Simple conclusion: if you monger, you're doing yourself a disservice if you haven't been to the Rio Spa in Macau -- it's the best you're going to do anywhere.

(sorry if my spelling is off -- no spell check on Chinese computers!)

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MegaPoint

10-27-06, 09:11

The Bar in the Mandarin has closed and the replacment is a piano bar...No fun...Any advise on new venues? That bar used to be great.The bar at any of the new casino/hotels is probably a good bet for a similar scene, as well as the little neighborhood of bars on the reclamation south of the Sands/Macau Cultural Centre. This area has an official name, but the taxi drivers all know it as "Lan Kwai Fong", after the famous strip of over-priced yuppie/chuppie bars in Hong Kong's Central district.

The old bar area of the Mandarin was under renovation when I was there 2 weeks ago. It is not clear if there will be a new bar in the old ground floor location, or more designer label shops there (I suspect the latter.) The new, much smaller bar is upstairs, and definitely designed to keep out free-lancers and other desirable goodies.

Cebu Local

10-27-06, 15:31

Garcon

10-28-06, 00:12

Brothers, please help me understand-

Why wouldn't you just opt for the ShangHai package at saunas with good talent if the price is about $1000HK less?

It seems like most pay the $1400+ to choose their own gal.

When I visited Emperor Sauna, I paid $1400+. If I had known about the non-choose your own gal price I would have went with that. I would have been satisfied with almost every gal in the lineup.

Sweetkisser

10-28-06, 11:19

The non choice option is not only that you can't choose the girl but the girl who serve you is usually not in the line up. They are usually local girl from Macau and older in general. But their masage skill is much better.
Sweetkisser

Brothers, please help me understand-

Why wouldn't you just opt for the ShangHai package at saunas with good talent if the price is about $1000HK less?

It seems like most pay the $1400+ to choose their own gal.

When I visited Emperor Sauna, I paid $1400+. If I had known about the non-choose your own gal price I would have went with that. I would have been satisfied with almost every gal in the lineup.

MegaPoint

10-29-06, 05:23

The non choice option is not only that you can't choose the girl but the girl who serve you is usually not in the line up. They are usually local girl from Macau and older in general. But their masage skill is much better.
SweetkisserThis brings up the point that there is a risk element in either system.

I have had very nice experiences at, say, the Taipan Sauna, where it's a mystery who you're going to get (except for specifiying nationality) for the "happy massage" and who you will pull for the "healthy massage". I have also been occasionaly disappointed at the Darling and other places (such as the Fuji) where you can choose from a line-up. This is in particular why I never pick the Mainland or Taiwanese girls at the Darling, after having two who were rather stuck-up and thought they were too good for this business.

JoseMarti

10-29-06, 10:30

Is there an online mape of Macau like there is of HK similar to Centamap?

-JM

Beijing Lover

10-30-06, 10:11

You can download a digital map of Macau from the tourism website

Beijinglover

Is there an online mape of Macau like there is of HK similar to Centamap?

-JM

JoseMarti

10-30-06, 15:11

Thanks BL!!

Figured out the issue. The maps dont open in FireFox for me only in IE. They take forever to load so be patient.

Here are the links:

http://www.macautourism.gov.mo/big5/islandMap.html
http://www.macautourism.gov.mo/big5/macau_map1.html

Loso69

10-30-06, 20:29

I will be in Macau around November 7, with the goal of adding Macau to my mongering portfolio. That requires getting pictures of, and subsequently fucking at least 1 girl on Macau soil.

With the freelancers (Lisboa, Holiday Inn, Embassy Bar, Cave Bar, DD Disco), I should be able to make pictures part of the deal. But what about the massage girls?

From what I’ve read, you’re generally not allowed to take your belongings to the room. Then again, they said the same thing about the termas in Rio. I left my backpack (containing a bulky SLR camera) in my locker, then picked it up (wanted to use my own condoms) before heading to the room. No problem whatsoever! Of course, you can talk to the termas girls, and get them to agree to pictures in advance. That may not be possible in the Macau MPs.

But these remarks by members were encouraging:

Member #3346 about Millionaire’s Sauna
You go one floor higher (I think 3F), then get out and look at the women. You can get ST there, and most of the girls are really lonely, so you might be able to take them out after they get off work.

Moon2 about Darling 1
You keep your belongings with you, as you shower/bathe in the room.

Can you talk to the massage girls beforehand? Can you talk about pictures with the Captain? Anyone ever managed to get pictures of massage girls? What about the lower end places? Any advice would be welcome.

Loso

Lionking7

10-30-06, 21:46

Allover

10-31-06, 05:40

I have taken photos at Millionaire Sauna and Fuji. I have carried a camera into both Darling 1 and 2. In each place I was taken to a room with a tub and did not use actual sauna type facility.

Getting photos requires convincing the girls to allow it. I have had some success getting photos of girls fully clothed. Getting photos without clothes takes some more convincing.

Loso69

10-31-06, 13:24

Allover,

Thanks for your reply. I'll put those MPs at the top of my list.

Loso

Cebu Local

11-01-06, 02:22

Tiger 888

11-01-06, 03:21

I am planning to visit Macau from Bangkok by Air Asia. From Macau I would like to make a day long trip to Hongkong. Is it possible to buy a darling 1 package at Macau with Macau-Hk-Macau ferry ticket inclusive?

It is only sold in HK SorryIf you make your trip to HK and buy the package there, it saves you one leg of the ferry ride. And if you wanted you could sell the return ticket in the ferry terminal departure hall, if thats worth the effort for you. (After 5:30 pm and on sundays they are even more expensive).

Fast Eddie 48

11-01-06, 22:36

If you make your trip to HK and buy the package there, it saves you one leg of the ferry ride. And if you wanted you could sell the return ticket in the ferry terminal departure hall, if thats worth the effort for you. (After 5:30 pm and on sundays they are even more expensive).

to lion king

If you go to darling 1 without package ask the manager for a free return ferry ticket , If you paid the full massage package price and ask them after you pick the girl you like they will give you a return ticket , Darling paid wholesales
price alot less than us .

fast eddie 48

Gloves

11-02-06, 14:37

Hello everybody!

This post is about an event that is now 10 months old, but it still may have some relevance. It is about the trend for the Inner Harbour girls in Macau quite aggressively encouraging punters to take not only them, but one of their friends. I have tried it and it didn’t work for me.

I am an Inner Harbour aficionado. It’s a bit more furtive and dodgy than the saunas or the Lisboa. It’s not what it once was, but more on that later. I generally head to that little area north of Av. Alameida Ribeiro (i.e., on the same side of the main drag as the beautiful town square, but further down towards the water). Anyway, the girls in this pocket of town seem to be younger, prettier, and perkier than the workers on the south side of Av. Alameida Ribeiro (i.e. that area behind the Forsham). Most of these ladies are on the wrong side of 40, noticeably more aggressive, and some of them are not lookers. Anyhow, I digress.

My favourite place in the Inner Harbour is a small hotel with darkened glass frontage and sign only in Chinese. Sometimes you will see these mainland lovelies out in the street, but mostly they stay behind the glass. Typically, you will find 8-10 absolute cuties inside, all eager for trade. The asking price seems to be MOP$400 without haggling. They’re young, sexy and sparky. But the last few times I have been there, they have been working in pairs. The one you want always seems to have a friend that also wants a piece of the action. It sounds great, but I didn’t enjoy it.

Last time, I negotiated a price with one of these dishes, and I am getting this offer to double up with a considerably less appealing lassie. I finally get it through to them that I only want one girl or else I walk. So I go up to the room (basic but clean) and we shower. Then we get down to business, starting with a lot of touching and licking and rubbing – she has set the scene beautifully. Then there is a knock on the door – not what you want to hear whilst on the tool in Macau. It’s not the law, but her friend, and the hard sell is on. But with the tockley already standing to attention and my girl still caressing it, I’m finding it difficult to assert some authority. When the second girl drops her price to MOP$300 and then her undies, I relent. So there I am on the bed, with naked Chinese women to the left and right, both rubbing my shaft. My first choice slips a condom on and blows like a champion, whilst the second sits on my face and I go the growl. I am loving life. But they refuse to share a condom. So my adolescent fantasy of having two Asian beauties blowing me in tandem does not come to fruition. So No. 1 gets on board and we go at it. But No. 2 is now serving as a distraction. There is also the issue of blowing my load too soon and therefore not getting a crack at No. 2. So No. 1 climbs down, and No.2 steps up to the plate. She wanted a new condom on me, and the swap was a real mood killer. And No. 2 just wasn’t as talented in either facet of the operation. No. 1 is now rubbing her lovely titties and juicy snatch all over me, but I am having trouble focusing. After a while, I knew I wasn’t going to be able to empty my bags tonight. I struggled to explain this to them. Eventually, I just got up, said sorry and feeling embarrassed, unfulfilled and remorseful, I put my clothes back on, leaving two very confused Chinese prostitutes standing naked in the room.

For those with more stamina than me, it is probably going to be a wonderful experience. But for me, the dicking about with fresh condoms threw a bucket of cold water over the whole situation.

As for the Inner Harbour, it has lost a lot of its atmosphere and appeal. Old Macau mongers will fondly remember the East Asia Hotel in its heyday - a terrific hotel, reasonably priced, and a room off the lobby with up to 30 absolute princesses plying their trade. They would cram into the lift with you and you took your pick. It’s still a good hotel, but that room is now empty. Hotels such as the Villa Capitol, the Central and the Forsham are now all closed.

I will be back in Macau in February 2007 and suspect the situation will be worse. Can anyone enlighten me? I may even have to cross Av. Alameida Ribeiro and go over to the dark side. I have never done the deed over there, but I get the impression it would be anything goes if the price is right.

Good luck to you chaps. Love your work.

Gloves

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Nedword

11-02-06, 20:47

Gloves,

I was last in Macau 6 months ago and hanging out in the inner harbour for the most part. I only found one of the hotels did the girls try to get their friends in on the action, but it was a 300 MOP place. I'm going to be back in Macau later this month and was going to return to the place and if the same thing happened I would see if the girls would do some sort of lesbian activites while I did just one of them.

My favorite place in the inner harbour is a 200 MOP place, I don't have the name or address, but its probably the closest on to the London Hotel. I find it refreshing as the the girls look a bit more natural and less made up.

Not in the inner harbour, but away from the Lisboa, I think the Hot Spot is a very good place for 420 MOP.

Also on my next visit I am greatly facinated by the girls that come out at 6:00 AM and solicite in the pedestrian walk way area near the Lisboa.

Reports to follow once research has been concluded.

Ks457

11-03-06, 17:14

Hello everybody!
Eventually, I just got up, said sorry and feeling embarrassed, unfulfilled and remorseful, I put my clothes back on, leaving two very confused Chinese prostitutes standing naked in the room.

LOL...interest post Glove. Although I don't see an appeal for paying 400+300 for a threesome (and one of the girls not really being attractive enough), when you can go right across the border to Zhu Hai and have a threesome for 400 RMB with cute 20 year olds. See my post in Zhu Hai section. I've added pictures, and mind you, I "settled" for those gals because I was tired and did not want to look very long.

-KS

Tom Jefferson

11-04-06, 15:19

Regarding your Sim card needs,Go to any Smart Tone Spot and Buy a SIM,There is a one almost everywhere in Macao.I use the one beside McDonalds in Leal SenadoThere are even vending machines at ferry terminal selling SIM cards and relaod credits.

Tom Jefferson

11-04-06, 15:24

194 Paris street (NAPE)

100 MOP for one hour (good massage)

Extras negotiated with girl

No showers or other facilities, old fashioned, but "sympathique"

Thomas Jefferson

11-09-06, 15:20

I went to Darling 2 Massage, near the Hong Kong ferry pier.

The have many girls, viet, China, thai, korea, russia. All look great.

Service is between hkd 900-1400. (korea and russia most expensive)

I choose one vietnam girl (no. 130) and did not regret it. Very nice bath, BBBJ, cim. Than on the bad massage (really good relaxing), BBBJ again, fucking in all positions. She is 19 years old, speaks english and after 90 minutes time was over and I went back to hotel very satisfied.

I can warmly recommend this place. I will post a foto of this beauty in the photo section.

Best greetings

Thomas Jefferson

Petercal

11-10-06, 07:28

There are a lot of posts about the mechanics of visiting the sauna establishments so I thought I'll limit my post to some personal observations and feelings. As this is my first post, I am mindful of the rules of this board, but please cut me some slack if some of what I write crosses into the grey area.

Anyways, after hearing some good things about 18 Sauna, I went there two days ago. Did the strip down in the locker area and shower before heading back out to await the lineup. I guess it was a slow night (Wednesday) because there were only about 10 guys looking at the 9 o'clock lineup. The ratio of the available girls to guys made this stood out rather dramatically. The line had about 60-70 girls and snaked from the steam room around the spa pools all the way to the locker area.

The manager rotated the girls in groups of 10 or so every few minutes so the guys could get better views. Quite a number of stunners, but there were also a noticeable number of new girls. These new girls didn't know where to walk to go through the rotation (a few thought they were done and headed towards their rest area instead of the end of the line). I guess the sauna is increasing service capacity in anticipation of next week's Grand Prix crowd.

Anyways, I picked out a sichuan girl that reminded me of my ex-girlfriend (thinking back on it now, that was likely a mistake). Funny thing is somehow I clicked with the girl so much so that we spent about 40 minutes on just the wash and chatting. At the end I felt so rushed that I just said forget about completing the FS. It was more interesting talking to her, especially since I already had four girls already in the last two days. It turns out that she worked at Fortuna Night Club for almost two years before just recently (two weeks) switching over 18 Sauna. Apparently the daily stress and alcohol that goes with the night club environment wreck havoc on one's body and some girls switch over if their monetary/debt situation permits it.

I found out a number of things talking to this girl both at this session and the session the following day. The girls seem to be kept on a fairly tight leash in terms of behavior towards customers. They can be easily fined substantial amounts if the customer complains, which further indebts them to these establishments. Anyways I met her after her shift ended and spent time just chatting and surfing the internet in my hotel room. Specifically, she was interested in seeing if there were photos of the girls in Macau nightclub & sauna scenes. Curious about her interest, I pull out my old saved paged of the Fortuna Night Club where she used to work. Apparently she is acquainted with a large number of these girls (went through over a hundred photos) and she described some of their backgrounds and "cat fights" that happened behind the scenes. There are things that go on which would explain these girls' attitudes and service.

In these hours I learned some things that I can't really further comment on without contravening the rules of this board (PM if you are ready to hear some stories). Now, I don't know what to believe, except that many of these girls have complex situations. Perhaps they sometimes don't quite deliver up to expectation for one reason or another. They're just human. Anyways, I like to know if anyone had some personal experiences like what I'm hinting at. Please PM me so we can avoid cluttering this sub board.

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Samurai

11-11-06, 22:45

I've just come back from a recent 2 night stay in Macau. A few months ago, a friend of mind told me of a massage place that he considered the best he has ever experienced. Knowing his reputation, I believed him and I made it a habit to experience this massage place for myself. He did not know the English name so he told me the name in Cantonese. I went to the Macau Ferry Terminal and asked for 'Hor Moon Sauna' (pronunciation). I later learned that the English name is 'Sauna e Massagem Familia Nobre' and that this new sauna had been open for less than 1 year. The person gladly presented to me the available packages. The first was 868hkd, which entitles me to one 1.5 hour session (no choice) or add 500hkd more (1368hkd) so that I can pick the girls up in a lineup. I decided to pick the 868hkd package because I can always upgrade when I get there if I see that the quality of girls are high, while other people choose from their lineups. At least, that was what I was thinking.

Day 1:

After arriving to Macau, I walked to my hotel (Golden Dragon Hotel) and checked in. In hindsight, there is no need to book online, which I did. It would have been a lot cheaper if I purchased the hotel at Sun Tak or stayed at the Sauna overnight (see later). After dropping my luggage into the room, I proceeded to the casino and tried my luck at blackjack. I was surprise to see that 80% of the tables were baccaurat and only a few people playing blackjack. Sitting at the blackjack table, I noticed that the style of play was totally different than what I am use to in Las Vegas and Atlantic City. After losing a few hundred, I decided to move on. My body was a little stiff, so I headed across the street to Lili Massage. I know there was a few posts in the past stating that it was difficult to find, but I found it easily. There are 2 entrances to The Golden Dragon Hotel. Lili Massage is located across the street from the Golden Dragon Hotel (Tower), situated in the middle of the street. You can see a big sign in chinese. There is a sex shop at the corner. You can also enter there or in the middle of the street. They are all connected. I opted for the 290hkd massage, which included hand job. It was one of the best massages that I ever had, including a lot of emphasis on the ass and balls. When it was time to pay, I mentioned that I read about Lili online and that a friend told me about the place, they only charged me 270hkd.

Day 2:

I thought I would try my luck at Wynn or any of the other casinos, but I was surprised to have been refused entry because I was wearing shorts and a sleeveless t-shirt. It seems that only Golden Dragon Hotel had no problems with my dress code. After losing more money at Golden Dragon, I needed to exchange my US dollars into Hong Kong Dollars, but I was surprise to be rejected by all the money changers and the big banks in the area. I was told that if the US $100 bills are old, then their customers would not accept them. The problem was that I only had $100 bills and they were all old. I got lucky when ISBC bank accepted them. With new money in my hand, I proceed to 'Hor Moon Sauna'. The English name turns out to be Sauna e Massagem Familia Nobre and is located a short distance from Wynn Casino. It is located 249/255 Edf. China Plaza. After my arrival, the security on the first floor asked for my name and led me to the elevator. A person greeted me and excorted me to the elevator. The elevator stopped at the second floor, where another person greeted me and asked if I had purchased a package beforehand, which I answered 'yes'. I was then takened to the lockerroom area and given a key. The attendant there waited while I undressed and placed my clothes in the locker. Two keys were required to open the locker, which made me feel safe. I then went into the sauna. There was 2 big jacuzzi pools in front of me. I went into the steam room to the right and stayed in there for 10 minutes. I took a quick shower and entered the jacuzzi tubs. I was surprised to find that I was the only person there and I was a little lost in that nobody have come to tell me what I am suppose to do. I guess they thought this was not my first time there. After going to both the hot tub and cold tub, I took another quick shower and proceded to the towel area. A girl greeted me and gave me a robe and slippers and issued me ahead. I came across a big room with a reception area. This place was huge. I saw people relaxing on sofas, eating, chatting online, etc. I proceded to check my emails online and then sat on the sofa. Immediately, I was asked if I wanted drinks and food. I was told that all was free. Then one of the managers came and told me the pricing. I decided to eat a little first. While I was eating, I saw a parade of scantily clad females walk by for a lineup. It appears that one of the people were ready to choose. I asked the manager that if I kept my original 868 package, where I get no choice on the girl, will I get lower quality girls and the manager responded NO. I will be getting girls that were not in that lineup and maybe girls that have not had any customers that day. They have a 'score card' to see how many customers each had for the day. A older women came up to me and asked if I was ready for the free massage. I did not know that a free high thigh massage was part of the package. I was led down a long corridor to a private room and was given a nice massage for 20 minutes. Afterward, I told the manager that I was ready. I was again lead to a private room and a nice Vietnamese girl came in. She showered me and she had a quick shower herself. She did not speak a word of English, but surprising she had learned Cantonese in less than a year. She gave a nice body massage, bbbj and sex in multiple positions. She was very talkative and made me feel relaxed. A real nice GFE. Afterward, she walked me back to the sofa. Sitting on the sofa, I noticed a few more lineups, including russian girls. One of them, was talking to me and trying to get me to go with her. I told her that I just had a session and that she is probably too expensive for me. I then looked into a booklet that had list of prices. I was surprise to find that after the first session, the following sessions would be so much cheaper. The second session would be only 298hkd + tax, roughly 343hkd total. I decided to go for a second session. I had a few snacks again and after an hour, told the manager that I was ready. I was lead down the corridor to a private room again. Surprisingly, with so many rooms available, I was given the same room twice. Again walks another Vietnamese girl with big breasts. To make a long story short, another GFE experience. I debated whether to wait a little while and go for another session. But, I had to wait for a phone call in my hotel room so I decided to leave.

I learned something from this adventure.

1. Always bring crisp clean $100 bills, otherwise you may have a hard time getting money changers and banks to accept them.

2. Wear long pants and at least a shirt with sleeves if you want to go into casinos. This does not apply to women. I was told that if you are naked and you are a woman, they would still admit you.

3. No need to book hotels in advance. You can get them cheaper at the ferry terminal that same day or stay overnight at the sauna. They have plenty of rooms

4. If you plan to just monger only, then you can literally stay at the sauna the whole entire time you are in Macau. You can stay days if you like. Also, the cost of the second, third, fourth, etc. sessions are so much cheaper. However, once you leave the sauna, the cost of the session is back to the original 868hkd (no choice) or 1368 (choice). After the first session, you can still pick a girl from a lineup for an additional 500hkd, if you choose.

5. Taking everything into consideration, if you plan just to monger, Sauna e Massagem Familia Nobre (Hor Moon Sauna) is the best bang for the buck because you can eat & drink as much as you want all day, have internet access, a place to sleep, and as much sex as you want.

The total damage was: 868hkd (1st session) + 343hkd (second session). This price includes 2 girls (1 session each), one 20-minute high thigh massage, snacks, dinner, 2 drinks, and was offered a room for the night (declined).

With the bang for the buck here, no more Darlings or any other massage for me... EVER!

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The Voice

11-12-06, 03:48

[QUOTE=Samurai]The total damage was: 868hkd (1st session) + 343hkd (second session). This price includes 2 girls (1 session each), one 20-minute high thigh massage, snacks, dinner, 2 drinks, and was offered a room for the night (declined).[QUOTE]

Hi Samurai

Thanks for the excellent post. Some qick questions if I may:

1. Does the room overnight cost extra? what is the cost?

2. Is it a normal hotel room or just a bed?

Thanks

Tiger 888

11-12-06, 05:52

3. No need to book hotels in advance. You can get them cheaper at the ferry terminal that same day or stay overnight at the sauna. They have plenty of roomsWatch out, there are days where all cheaper rooms are full. Especially during public holidays and the Macao Grand Prix. I don't know about the Saunas on these days. Maybe still a valuable choice.

...4. If you plan to just monger only, then you can literally stay at the sauna the whole entire time you are in Macau. You can stay days if you like. Also, the cost of the second, third, fourth, etc. sessions are so much cheaper. However, once you leave the sauna, the cost of the session is back to the original 868hkd (no choice) or 1368 (choice). After the first session, you can still pick a girl from a lineup for an additional 500hkd, if you choose...If I get this right, it means that instead of right away chosing from the lineup you can for the same price take a free blind date first and then still chose. What an offer. Forget Lisboa then where you have to pay 800 for a quick fuck mostly without GFE.

Here the name and address in Chinese from the yellow pages:
豪門桑拿殿
宋玉生廣場中土大廈一樓全層
28810073 Tel. in the English listing
28810000 Tel. in the Chinese listing

Samurai

11-12-06, 09:25

No, the room does not cost extra. The room I was in had a large bed, bathroom, 2 lamp lights with desks, and a mirror on the ceiling. It also had a telephone. The lady used the phone initially to call to let them know that the session was starting. I think getting a room at the sauna would be a good idea if you plan multiple sessions. For example, session #1 some time during the night, sleep, wake up, eat, then procede with session #2. I do not advise you to have a session with a girl, sleep there overnight, and then leave in the morning. I'm sure you will get away with it and they may not say anything, but they will remember you and the quality of service your next time may not be as good. It is not a hotel room. But, it is a nice room where you can rest for the night. You can even ask them to give you a wake up call in a few hours too. There are plenty of more services in the menu, but I only chose the standard package. Also, when I say you can eat whatever you like, I do not mean just simple snacks. There is real food, almost like a restaurant and bar area in the back too.

[QUOTE=Samurai]The total damage was: 868hkd (1st session) + 343hkd (second session). This price includes 2 girls (1 session each), one 20-minute high thigh massage, snacks, dinner, 2 drinks, and was offered a room for the night (declined).[QUOTE]Hi Samurai,

Thanks for the excellent post. Some qick questions if I may:

1. Does the room overnight cost extra? what is the cost?

2. Is it a normal hotel room or just a bed?

Thanks

Samurai

11-12-06, 10:13

Tiger,

You are correct. During holidays or the Grand Prix, it may be a little difficult if not impossible to get a hotel room that same day. However, I still think you may be able to get a room at the sauna, especially if you plan to have multiple sessions. There are quite a lot of rooms in the back. I was quite amazed at the size of this sauna. The sauna was at least one floor of the building. One of the massage girls told me that the other massage girls were all upstairs. I do not know if we were allowed upstairs or if that area is just for them. I just know in the general area, that they come down for lineups and if they are not chosen, they go back upstairs.

Even if there were no rooms available, I would gladly sleep on the individual sofa seats. There are so many of those as well and they are quite comfortable, especially with the blanket/towel that they provide when you are sitting. It was fun eating, drinking, watching tv, surfing online and watching other people choose from their lineups. Also, after I paid the final bill, I told them next time I will not get a hotel room and just stay there and they said no problem.

Let me try to explain the standard multiple session package as I know it. You can always upgrade, so there is no need to buy the more expensive package at the Ferry Terminal. The 868hkd package is good enough. 868hkd entitles you to a round trip ride on the Turbojet, one 20-minute high thigh massage, food/drinks, internet access, 1 session with a girl of their choosing, and total access to the sauna, including steam room, and hot/cold jacuzzi tubs. If you would like to select a girl from a line-up, then it would cost an additional 500hkd. The total price would be 1368hkd. After the first session, you can continue to use the sauna, eat, etc. If you decide to have a second session, you can have them select another girl for you for 298hkd + tax, total about 343hkd or if you decide to choose a girl from a lineup, then it would cost 298hkd + tax + 500hkd. The total cost would be 843hkd. For both of my sessions, I had them choose for me and the service was very good. I probably would not have chosen the second one in a line-up, but the second session only cost me 343hkd. I could have stayed overnight and had another few sessions the next day at 343hkd per session. There was quite a few stunners in the lineup and probably would have been worth the 500hkd extra. My friend, who told me about the place last year, had 5 girls in a 24 hour period of time. He was so eager, like a kid in a candy store that the manager told him to take his time and slow down a bit.

Forget Lisboa and any other freelancer that charges 800hkd or more, I would prefer to have a no rushed session in a nice atmosphere, where I know I will get great service. If not, you can always complain to the manager.

Note, the sauna is about a 15 minute walk from the Golden Dragon Hotel/Sands area and less than 5 minutes by taxi. But, some taxis may not want to take you because of the short distance. I believe the cost was 12hkd.

Samurai

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Boyle

11-14-06, 15:49

Does anyone know where can I buy cialis without script in Macau?

Thank you

JoseMarti

11-17-06, 04:59

Read the forum and visited Macau for the first time. Here are my adventures and misadventures.

Thursday Night

Tonight was scouting night to check out the lay of the land. I found some places and didnt find others.

I first started at the Lisboa Shark-pit. All I can say is nothing but stunning. Sat down and had a snack and watched the catwalk. 1000MOP for a quickie. Too mich for my taste. I looked and looked and then decided to move on

I then headed to the the town square where the fountain is, commonly known as San Malo. Later I learned this is where the non-pro South-East Asian women start the hunt for company/customers. If you are looking at the door of Lisboa, walk left about 5 blocks along the road and you will see it on the right. Can't miss it. Along the way you will see DD-Disco on the left about 2 blocks down from Lisboa.

I then headed back to the back streets of Holiday Inn. Lots of girls there. Starting price was 500 MOP. None spoke English. I communicated to them I wanted an all-nighter. She quoted 1500, but I managed to knock her down to 1000 MOP. Since I was not in the mood and just checking things out. I moved on.

I tried to find "The Cave" but was not successful. Went to the Mandrin to look for the bar mentioned on the board, but apparently it had been renovated and the name changed. It looked to snooty so I moved on.

Sands was the next stop. Nice bar on the Casio floor. Booz was cheap here and they had a nice band. Saw some DH but was not sure of the protocol, so skipped.

On the way back headed to the Wynn, Tyrst bar. Another dissapointer. Pretty much empty.

Friday night

Went to DD at 10:30pm and it was CLOSED!! WTF, closed at 10:30pm! Said they would open at 11:30pm...ok, fine. I headed towards San Malo. The place was not happening tis late. Started to walk back to the Sands. BTW it's a pretty long walk, so I suggest taking a cab, only 11 MOP. On the walk back I ran into a bunch of Filipina woman strolling around. Said hi and joined them on their walk. Ended up at this bar called MP3. Really wasn't happening for a Friday night. One of the girls took a liking to me so we walked together and chatted. We soon parted ways with her friends and ended up at my place. Had a nice GFE experience. In the morning I asked her to go as I had some stuff to take care off and would call her later. She tells me she has no money and I had to pay her for lastnight. Fuck! I'd been had! hhhmmm...she asked for 500 MOP so I gave it to her to make her go. Guess I need to wise up!

Saturday

I wanted to check out HotSpot. Based on the info here, I jumped onto Bus 6 to get me into the general direction. The bus seemed to be going in circles, but I eventually ended up in the right place. I was looking out the right window and saw the HotSpot sign. I rang the bus bell and hopped out. If I had tried to find this place walking it would have been near impossible.

I was greeted by the man at the reception. He spoke enough english to communicate. Was taken to the room and he asked what type of girl. I indicated the height and the bust size with my hands. He beings in girl #1 after a few mins. She is nice, big natural tits. I wanted to see what was availabe so asked him to get another. This time it took much longer. Girl #2 looked at me and ran out the door. She was terrified. The Papa-san dragged her in and she was shivvering. He says: "you like?". I was like, yes, but there is no way she is going to satisfy me with that terrified look in her eyes! So I choose g#1....damage 400. All in all a nice experience.

I was determined to get some DH at the Sands. At night I went to the bar got a drink to get in the mood. Scouted to see who was out there. Spotted a loner Indonesian and chatted her up. We decided to go to DD. Walked to DD. The place is really loud. It's a mix between a live band and a DJ playing. 100MOP to get in with 2 drinks included. Went in drank up and scouted the scene. Lots of Indonesians there looking to hook up. Was getting late and told the the girl I was headed home. She said she wanted to go with me. So, now that I had learned my lesson, I asked how much. She says 500, I say 400. She says ok. We get into a cab and head to my place. Woke up, paid and she headed home.

Sunday night.

Since last night was not to bad, I decided to try the Sands yet again. Spotted another nice young DH Indonesian. Went home straight from there. She was friends with the one I was with last night. Apparently all of them know each other. Asker hew how much...she goes what ever you paid my friend...I said 300...she says OK....damn I'm getting smarter by the day! 300 for all night.

So thats my Macau story. Here are is a link to the pics. There is a comment under each pick to tell you whats what.

http://beta.pixsense.com/sharedFriend.ps?id=6772387075707073746572407961686F6F2E636F6D&myId=773

-JM

Ks457

11-17-06, 06:05

i first started at the lisboa shark-pit. all i can say is nothing but stunning. sat down and had a snack and watched the catwalk. 1000mop for a quickie. too mich for my taste. i looked and looked and then decided to move on

great post! a post like this deserves rod mention. dunno why jackson didn't include. anyway, i thought it was 800 for lisboa? the girls there are definitely hotties. i didn't partake either, but considering they're probably on par in terms of looks with "hotel reservation" girls on 141, which i always want to try, but my lack of chinese prevents me from calling to make the reservation. i saw one girl last time there was definitely 9+..maybe i should've tried, but i was too pooped from trip to zhu hai :)

Tiger 888

11-25-06, 03:34

if you are caucasian and don't speak chinese, you are more likely being quoted 1000 rather than 800. they already charged many whites 1000 when the chinese could still go for 500. i managed to get 500 from most if the girls that time. 800 is just not worth it, not to mention 1000.
tiger

great post! a post like this deserves rod mention. dunno why jackson didn't include. anyway, i thought it was 800 for lisboa? the girls there are definitely hotties. i didn't partake either, but considering they're probably on par in terms of looks with "hotel reservation" girls on 141, which i always want to try, but my lack of chinese prevents me from calling to make the reservation. i saw one girl last time there was definitely 9+..maybe i should've tried, but i was too pooped from trip to zhu hai :)

Tiger 888

11-25-06, 03:47

I tried to find "The Cave" but was not successful. Went to the Mandrin to look for the bar mentioned on the board, but apparently it had been renovated and the name changed. It looked to snooty so I moved on.
The cave as it was doesn't exist anymore. It has moved to the sousterrain and there is no more live music. Just forget it. The bar in the Mandarin is closed down.

We soon parted ways with her friends and ended up at my place. Had a nice GFE experience. In the morning I asked her to go as I had some stuff to take care off and would call her later. She tells me she has no money and I had to pay her for lastnight. Fuck! I'd been had! hhhmmm...she asked for 500 MOP so I gave it to her to make her go. Guess I need to wise up!All Filipinas need money. At least those out in the streets/bars. In Macau a DH makes 2800 per month.

I wanted to check out HotSpot. Based on the info here, I jumped onto Bus 6 to get me into the general direction. The bus seemed to be going in circles, but I eventually ended up in the right place. I was looking out the right window and saw the HotSpot sign. I rang the bus bell and hopped out. If I had tried to find this place walking it would have been near impossible.All buses in Macau run in circles, otherwise they can't cover enough miles to be called a bus. You may be faster walking, but Hotspot is definitely too far.

Since last night was not to bad, I decided to try the Sands yet again. Spotted another nice young DH Indonesian. Went home straight from there. She was friends with the one I was with last night. Apparently all of them know each other. Asker hew how much...she goes what ever you paid my friend...I said 300...she says OK....damn I'm getting smarter by the day! 300 for all night.300 for all night is a very good price. You will have a hard time to get that even in Indonesia. But I wouldn't feel good to push it any further. The Indonesians in Macau are great.

Pointpanic

12-02-06, 01:04

great post! a post like this deserves rod mention. dunno why jackson didn't include. anyway, i thought it was 800 for lisboa? the girls there are definitely hotties. i didn't partake either, but considering they're probably on par in terms of looks with "hotel reservation" girls on 141, which i always want to try, but my lack of chinese prevents me from calling to make the reservation. i saw one girl last time there was definitely 9+..maybe i should've tried, but i was too pooped from trip to zhu hai :) have enjoyed the shark pit several times as i stayed in the lisboa. the girls will ask 1000 for white men but you must negotiate to 800. it is 500 for chinese and my american-chinese partner got it for 500.

Sammon

12-02-06, 07:04

It is 500 if you stick to your guns. I ahave had some girls take the offer, not all.

Wantoknow

12-04-06, 23:35

It is 500 if you stick to your guns. I ahave had some girls take the offer, not all.

I've heard that Lisboa Management threathens any girl who does not charge at least HK$800 per pop with expulsion from the basement walk. For my money, I would rather get one from the Holiday Inn alley for $HK500. The quality there is much better than Lisboa girls last time I was there in early November, 2006.

And Darling 1 still has the hottest girls in town.

Nedword

12-09-06, 23:26

My first stop in Macau was the Forshan (sp?) pension, in the inner harbour area. In past visits I have noticed the girls, but have never stopped in. In the evening on a Friday night there were about 15 girls in the lobby, most all good looking. I figured the price would be 300 or maybe 400 but it turned out to be 500. I kind of liked a lady there so I paid up and we go to the room. All was covered, but the blow job was very good as was the fuck. The one thing here is that I did not pay the lady, but the 'mamasan' down in the lobby. The mamasan was outstanding, I would have like to have done her.

I visited the Rubi Pension, also in the inner harbour area. I've been here before several times. It was in the early afternoon and there were only three girls in the lobby, all good looking. I took one for 300 MOP. Having been here before I know the scams. After we shower and are naked, her friend wants to come in. She wants her friend to come in. I don't want her friend to come in. I had made sure that the door was locked and the second lock would not allow the door to open if the friend had a key. I had to wrestle with the lady to keep her from opening the door. It really sucked. Finally the friend is not coming in and we're nude on the bed. Then its 100 MOP extra for a blow job. Every time I have been here they have done that. And me, the idiot, I pay. After that things were fine and it was the standard blow job fuck combo, and it was pretty good.

The reason that I had ended up at the Rubi is that minutes before I was planning to visit another pension on the otherside of the main street there, and located where one of the small streets dead ends. Sorry about those directions, but if you walk around a bit its easy to fine. I had been to that place in the past a couple times and have always had a fufulling visit. Also they charge 200 MOP there and I haven't run into the Rubi type scams. As I passed the place by there were maybe 6 girls out side soliciting me. I confirmed the 200MOP price and was in the process of walking to the pension , when a Macau PD motorcycle officer pulled up and all the girls ran back into the pension. I, the old whate guy, am unfamilure with the local laws on prostitution so I took off in the other direction under the watchfull eye of Macau's finest. Then I headed to the Rubi as noted above.

I visted the Hot Spot. I have been there before so I just caught the bus to the broder and walked it from there. I asked for a Vietnamese with nice tits and thats what I got. Good looking and a very nice set of natural tits, some of the best I've seen. We did not make use of the tub, other than the shower area, but did make use of the bed. The proceedure here is the same as at the pensions but times is not an issue, and there are no scams. The vietnamese lady did well. A nice blow job and nice fuck all with a nice set of titis. After we finish she asked if she could stay at my hotel. At that moment I was kind of tired and declined the offer, although later, I think it would have been nice. The price here is 400 MOP and they through in a drink.

The final place that I visited was the Tin Wong Massage Parlour, which if you look at a map is located a bit away from the Liboa area, over near the Montien Hotel. The girls here are 888/988 and maybe the Russians are a bit more. Its not a big place but they did have 30-40 girls there most Viets and Thai with some Koreans and Russians. I went there for a Korean that the manager had shown me prior to a visit to the inner harbour. But when I got back she was not there so I took a vietnamese for 888 MOP. She was supergood looking with a great body for an 18 year old. We had a bit of a communication problem but the service was good. But she was just a bit off. She wasn't crazy off, but she was heading in that direction it appeared. This was once again the standeard blowjob/fuck combo. The blow job started out with without a condom but with loads of mouthwash, and then the condom went on.

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Minkfan1

12-10-06, 05:29

Manfest

12-10-06, 21:49

I was wondering what is the protocol for freelancers behind the Holiday Inn? After you negotiate, do you take them to your hotel for the session? Or do they take you to their room in the Holiday Inn?

If the quality behind Holiday Inn is better than Lisboa, and I was definitely impressed with Lisboa, I've gotta check Holiday Inn out next time.

Hi Minkfan,
My experience on only one occasion was to bring the girl to my room, which was in the HI. She mentioned going to her room somewhere else a few blocks away. Probably safer in your own room.

The quality that day was not the same as Lisboa. It was far inferior, and very much a quickie with no feeling. That's what you pay for at Lisboa too, but there were many beauties and some smiling/laughing. YMMV.
M

Allover

12-11-06, 06:33

I've wanted to visit Forshan but have not since I don't speak a word of the local language. Do you speak Chinese? I also appreciate the report on Tin Wong Massage. I had never heard of it and I don't recall it being reported on here before.

One question about Hot Spot. Did the girls lineup for you to make a selection? Since you asked for a Vietnamese with nice cans, I was led to believe you couldn't select from a line up.

This was a good report on places many of us never get to. Thank you.

Pointpanic

12-13-06, 01:31

I've heard that Lisboa Management threathens any girl who does not charge at least HK$800 per pop with expulsion from the basement walk. For my money, I would rather get one from the Holiday Inn alley for $HK500. The quality there is much better than Lisboa girls last time I was there in early November, 2006.

And Darling 1 still has the hottest girls in town.Got to Darling 1 last Saturday and had a great time. Went to Lisboa that day and saw some reallly tall beauties. The girls at Lisboa look very professional compared to the KTV girls in Changping.

Minkfan1

12-13-06, 09:16

Poppasan

12-13-06, 19:16

NIce report Samarai...Would you happen to know the name of the sauna and how much for the room if you decide to stay there?

You are correct. During holidays or the Grand Prix, it may be a little difficult if not impossible to get a hotel room that same day. However, I still think you may be able to get a room at the sauna, especially if you plan to have multiple sessions. There are quite a lot of rooms in the back. I was quite amazed at the size of this sauna. The sauna was at least one floor of the building. One of the massage girls told me that the other massage girls were all upstairs. I do not know if we were allowed upstairs or if that area is just for them. I just know in the general area, that they come down for lineups and if they are not chosen, they go back upstairs.

Even if there were no rooms available, I would gladly sleep on the individual sofa seats. There are so many of those as well and they are quite comfortable, especially with the blanket/towel that they provide when you are sitting. It was fun eating, drinking, watching tv, surfing online and watching other people choose from their lineups. Also, after I paid the final bill, I told them next time I will not get a hotel room and just stay there and they said no problem.

Let me try to explain the standard multiple session package as I know it. You can always upgrade, so there is no need to buy the more expensive package at the Ferry Terminal. The 868hkd package is good enough. 868hkd entitles you to a round trip ride on the Turbojet, one 20-minute high thigh massage, food/drinks, internet access, 1 session with a girl of their choosing, and total access to the sauna, including steam room, and hot/cold jacuzzi tubs. If you would like to select a girl from a line-up, then it would cost an additional 500hkd. The total price would be 1368hkd. After the first session, you can continue to use the sauna, eat, etc. If you decide to have a second session, you can have them select another girl for you for 298hkd + tax, total about 343hkd or if you decide to choose a girl from a lineup, then it would cost 298hkd + tax + 500hkd. The total cost would be 843hkd. For both of my sessions, I had them choose for me and the service was very good. I probably would not have chosen the second one in a line-up, but the second session only cost me 343hkd. I could have stayed overnight and had another few sessions the next day at 343hkd per session. There was quite a few stunners in the lineup and probably would have been worth the 500hkd extra. My friend, who told me about the place last year, had 5 girls in a 24 hour period of time. He was so eager, like a kid in a candy store that the manager told him to take his time and slow down a bit.

Forget Lisboa and any other freelancer that charges 800hkd or more, I would prefer to have a no rushed session in a nice atmosphere, where I know I will get great service. If not, you can always complain to the manager.

Note, the sauna is about a 15 minute walk from the Golden Dragon Hotel/Sands area and less than 5 minutes by taxi. But, some taxis may not want to take you because of the short distance. I believe the cost was 12hkd.

Samurai

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Nedword

12-13-06, 20:43

I've wanted to visit Forshan but have not since I don't speak a word of the local language. Do you speak Chinese? I also appreciate the report on Tin Wong Massage. I had never heard of it and I don't recall it being reported on here before.I don't speak any chinese, but right when you walk into one of the pensions all the girls will jump up and start saying 'masajeeeee'. And as far as prices go, I haven't found any room for negotiation, each pension seems to have a standard price. The Forshan was 500, the London was 400, the Rubi was 300, and my favorite place is 200. I have been quoted 100 by the girls that annoy you on the street in the inner harbour area.

The Tin Wong was OK, I mean the one Korean there was stunning as were many of the Thai and Viet chicks. In the future though I think there is better value in going to a bigger sauna. Last year I visited the one in the Beverly Hotel, and it wa nice, with the various pools and all, the food, the chairs, and all for only a couple hundered MOP's more.

One question about Hot Spot. Did the girls lineup for you to make a selection? Since you asked for a Vietnamese with nice cans, I was led to believe you couldn't select from a line up.At the Hot Spot, if you ask for Vietnese or Chinese they will bring a bunch of girls to you room for you to take a look at. This time the guy just brought one, but she was to specifications, so no harm.

Pointpanic

12-14-06, 01:24

Hi Waikikibob,

I wholeheartedly agree. I'm a Macau convert now. This was my first time to Macau. I've mongered in China before but always left Macau out of my itinerary b/c an idiot friend of mine told me that it's a waste of time. I just gave him an earful when we had dinner tonight.

I was at Tao Yuan KTV twice and out of around 300 girls I only saw 2 maximum that I wanted to do, but I didn't go gaga over them. At Lisboa I counted at least 5 that I would happily hand 800hkd to, regardless of service. I didn't take any since my friend and I just came from Darling 1 and were just dead tired.

I guess it really depends on what is important. If GFE is what one is looking for, I'd say China. If easy to find beautiful, regardless of service, then Macau.

I think for my next trip I'll do some real site seeing in China - Great Wall, Imperial Palace - and just monger in Macau.

For Darling 1, do they charge you for the drinks you order if you don't see anything you like and leave? At Darling 1 I had a coke before the selection and a milk tea afterwards. I asked a manager how much for the drinks and he said it was on him.

thanks,

minkfan
Had two beers at Darling, before and after, and they did not charge me. Guess they figured that they got me pretty good for the girl. Had a beautiful tall Chinese girl.
Out of about 25 girls at Lisboa, eight or nine were stunners. Short time would have been fun.
I plan to go 18 Sauna next time in Macau.
As to the Changping KTVs I went because my client took me. Did Jia Yi, with the flower street of 600 girls, and Hui Hua. The girls are pleasant but they are not as tall or built as the girls in Macau or the 141 girls in Hong Kong.

The Voice

12-16-06, 02:54

Beijing Lover

12-16-06, 08:30

Hi all

I'll be in Macau soon and I was wondering if you have an opinion on either the Grandview Hotel, Hotel Presidente, Hotel Sun Sun or the Hotel Taipa in terms of location, accommodation and sauna?

I was thinking of booking through the last minute net sites but would I be better off doing this at the ferry terminal?

Lastly, I also have an oppurtunity to visit Macau again at the end of May 2007. Is that a busy time of year in Macau and what is the weather like around that time?

Thanks

TV

Grandview and Taipa are in Taipa Island, 10 minutes aways from taxi from the Peninsula of Macau where all the action is located.
Sun Sun is in the Inner Harbour area. You can check older posts about action in the area.
President is right next to Lisboa, 30 seconds walk from HI and the walking street behind it. Also very near Wynn which has a new bar.
How to book is up to you, but remember that sometimes hotels are fully booked or you may be asked to pay a much higher rate because the cheaper rooms have all been taken.
Macau is always busy.
In May you can expect temperatures up to 30 degrees, humidity of 99% and lots of rain.

Beijing lover

Samurai

12-16-06, 17:17

Poppasan,

The name of the sauna is Sauna e Massagem Familia Nobre, a short walk from Wynn Casino. If you decide to stay overnight, the room is free. Of course, you have to purchase one of the packages that I mentioned.

Samurai

NIce report Samarai...Would you happen to know the name of the sauna and how much for the room if you decide to stay there?

You are correct. During holidays or the Grand Prix, it may be a little difficult if not impossible to get a hotel room that same day. However, I still think you may be able to get a room at the sauna, especially if you plan to have multiple sessions. There are quite a lot of rooms in the back. I was quite amazed at the size of this sauna. The sauna was at least one floor of the building. One of the massage girls told me that the other massage girls were all upstairs. I do not know if we were allowed upstairs or if that area is just for them. I just know in the general area, that they come down for lineups and if they are not chosen, they go back upstairs.

Even if there were no rooms available, I would gladly sleep on the individual sofa seats. There are so many of those as well and they are quite comfortable, especially with the blanket/towel that they provide when you are sitting. It was fun eating, drinking, watching tv, surfing online and watching other people choose from their lineups. Also, after I paid the final bill, I told them next time I will not get a hotel room and just stay there and they said no problem.

Let me try to explain the standard multiple session package as I know it. You can always upgrade, so there is no need to buy the more expensive package at the Ferry Terminal. The 868hkd package is good enough. 868hkd entitles you to a round trip ride on the Turbojet, one 20-minute high thigh massage, food/drinks, internet access, 1 session with a girl of their choosing, and total access to the sauna, including steam room, and hot/cold jacuzzi tubs. If you would like to select a girl from a line-up, then it would cost an additional 500hkd. The total price would be 1368hkd. After the first session, you can continue to use the sauna, eat, etc. If you decide to have a second session, you can have them select another girl for you for 298hkd + tax, total about 343hkd or if you decide to choose a girl from a lineup, then it would cost 298hkd + tax + 500hkd. The total cost would be 843hkd. For both of my sessions, I had them choose for me and the service was very good. I probably would not have chosen the second one in a line-up, but the second session only cost me 343hkd. I could have stayed overnight and had another few sessions the next day at 343hkd per session. There was quite a few stunners in the lineup and probably would have been worth the 500hkd extra. My friend, who told me about the place last year, had 5 girls in a 24 hour period of time. He was so eager, like a kid in a candy store that the manager told him to take his time and slow down a bit.

Forget Lisboa and any other freelancer that charges 800hkd or more, I would prefer to have a no rushed session in a nice atmosphere, where I know I will get great service. If not, you can always complain to the manager.

Note, the sauna is about a 15 minute walk from the Golden Dragon Hotel/Sands area and less than 5 minutes by taxi. But, some taxis may not want to take you because of the short distance. I believe the cost was 12hkd.

Samurai

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Buko Max

12-16-06, 23:19

I'll be in Macau soon and I was wondering if you have an opinion on either the Grandview Hotel, Hotel Presidente, Hotel Sun Sun or the Hotel Taipa in terms of location, accommodation and sauna?
Greetings TV,

Last month I was in Macau, so I can give you some insight. Hotels Sun Sun and Taipa are owned by Best Western so you should try to book rooms through their website. I was able to get a room for $329 HKD midweek at Hotel Taipa including buffet breakfast for two. Of course rates go up for the weekend. The hotel is only 3 years old and is in a quiet part of town. No sauna but they do have a small casino. As with most outlying hotels, they provide free shuttle service to the ferry terrminal including some of the major casinos and vice versa. Hotel Taipa's shuttle runs every 30 minutes. Hotel Sun Sun is a much older hotel and is better located but their rates are higher. I cannot comment on the other two hotels.

I know of a few travel agents in Macau who speak passable english and have a line on accommodations. PM me for their contact info.

Have a great trip!

ABCinLA

12-17-06, 02:52

Sammon

12-17-06, 03:21

When you go to Macau make sure you go on weekdays, that means sunday through thursday.
Less people, better selection of girls, unrushed service at massage parlors,cheaper hotel rates,shorter lines at immigration to name a few advantages.

Marcusau

12-17-06, 06:55

Sorry, I think you may be mistaken. I was in Sauna e Massagem Familia Nobre yesterday. It is located in the China Trust building in the Dynasty business district (Won Chu in pinyin). It is on the big street with the park in the middle which leads to the golden madonna statue.

Its actually located on the second floor of the Beverly Plaza Hotel. The Beverly Sauna is on the third floor. In fact I think they use the same girls as I saw them go back up a staircase after being brought over for selection by a customer.

Manfest

12-18-06, 00:47

Its actually located on the second floor of the Beverly Plaza Hotel. The Beverly Sauna is on the third floor. In fact I think they use the same girls as I saw them go back up a staircase after being brought over for selection by a customer.

Marcusau is correct.

The 2nd and 3rd floor of the Beverly Plaza Hotel are part of the Millionaires Suana. There are several reports on this place, including a recent post by myself. In general, I thoroughly enjoy Macau because most of the saunas have standard pricing and are pretty honest. The Millionaires sauna at Beverly, however, recently tried to scam me and added numerous charges.

Sauna e Massagem Familia Nobre and most of the others sound more honest and trustworthy. IMHO.
-M

Member #3346

12-18-06, 01:43

I like Millionaire´s because you get a wide selection of nationalities, viet, Chinese, Russian, some Korean and Japanese, also. The cool thing is instead of having to enter the sauna and do the whole sauna thing, which you do if you enter on the 2nd floor, you just go to the third floor and unless it´s really busy, you can look at the whole lineup before you decide if you want to partake.

The Voice

12-18-06, 13:14

Thanks for the info guys. Mattrick, I've Pm'ed you.

Regards

TV

ABCinLA

12-19-06, 09:41

What can I say I had asked a tour agency office on Hong Kong Island about whether they sold packages to sauna e massagem familia nobre and got sold a package to Millionaries. I don't think I'll go back to that place.

PD Maniac

12-21-06, 00:56

I bought a package from hk to 18. Whatta show. There must of been 150 girls that night, Friday. Picked a hubei cutie with a tight body and full see-cups. The service was excellent as always, according to a few people I spoke to, 18 is the place to be. If there's something better, I'll be back in a few months.

After 6 hours at 18, I went over to Lisboa. I can't believe the prices went from 500-800. I offered 10 girls 500, none of them budged. So I didn't partake, I was tired anyway.

Tanky

12-21-06, 04:12

Hi all,

Is there a place for just proper massage, that you guys can recommend?

I've look around the forums, but seems only saunas with working girls available.

Thanks.

Tank

Weelock

12-23-06, 05:06

This is a map listing hotels in Macau. Sorry for the poor quality since I have to downsize it. The original is much better and readable. It's not a completed list because it's a few years old. For example, the newer hotels like the Wynn are not listed. There are mainly 3+ stars hotel although there are several low end 2 stars. To make more readable, download the files and zoom-in with a program like photoshop.

Hotel location on map
---------------------------
Central 9
East Asia 3
Florida 7
Fortuna 22
Grandeur 11
Guia 2
Holiday Inn 16
Hotel Ko Va 6
Hotel London 15
Hou Kong 5
Kingway 10
Mandarin Oriental 12
Metropole 18
Mondial 1
Pensao Ka Va 17
Predidente 23
Royal 4
San Va 8
Sintra 21
Sun Sun 14
Tin Tin Vila 19
Vong Kung 13

Maps listing for hotels in Macau. NO PICTURE OF GIRLS.

Loso69

01-01-07, 06:07

Prelude

After picking up my Chinese visa in between 2 STs with 141 girls in Hong Kong, I finally caught the 9PM ferry to Macau.

When I got into the lift at the Hotel Fortuna, a Chinese girl joined me. As soon as I’d gotten my luggage out of the lift, she asked me if I wanted a massage. She wasn’t my type, but Macau lived up to its reputation as Sin City right from the word go.

Rua De Xangai

As soon as I entered the walking street opposite my hotel, I was approached by cute China Dolls every 30 seconds. And they all seemed to be saying “Chupa?” Do these girls speak Spanish? They wanna suck my dick? I later found out they were actually saying “Let’s go?”

For once, I actually wasn’t looking for female company. I was looking for an ATM machine and a McDonald’s. I finally got my wallet filled in the hotel lobby and my stomach in a Chinese restaurant.

Suni

Once I got my fill, I headed back to the Rua De Xangai to have a look at the talent. At 2AM, there were loads of China Dolls (high quality) and some Russians (low quality).

I finally decided on Suni. I knew the price for Chinese to be 300 MOP, but she asked for 500 MOP, which must have included the “big dick surcharge”. We finally settled on 400 MOP, including pictures.

Suni was a girl in a hurry. She wouldn’t shower or allow me time to shower. She was ready to put a condom on me while I was still fully dressed! She took her skirt off and expected me to fuck her while she was still wearing her top!

Suni gave me a CBJ for about a minute, then wanted me to start fucking her. She wouldn’t kiss or let me touch her. I was fed up with her bitchy attitude, pinned her down on the bed and started shouting at her in English. She didn’t understand a word I said, but she got the message anyway.

After that, I could do as I pleased. I sucked on her small titties & ate her pussy, and then started fucking her. Suni was no longer resisting me, but remained a total starfish.

Loso

Loso69

01-01-07, 06:11

Xa Xa

Pensão Forson is considered a low-budget place in Macau, but I thought the quality was absolutely great. As for the streetwalkers in the Rua de Xangai, the price for Chinese is just 300 MOP, but gweilos are asked for 500 MOP, and I was unable to negotiate them down.

My favorite, Xa Xa, looked like a Japanese girl to me. But she wouldn’t agree to pictures, even if I was willing to pay 500 MOP. After I showed her the pictures of Suni on my camera (fully dressed), she finally caved in.

After I took a couple of pictures of Xa Xa, 3 more girls stormed into the room. Police raid! At first, I thought it was a scam to relieve a gweilo of some cash, but it turned out to be the real deal.

The lights were switched off and I was asked to keep silent. When the girls thought they heard some noise on our floor, they escaped through the window in a panic and hid out on the tiny balcony. I switched the lights back on, had a smoke and relaxed.

After about 20 minutes, the girls crawled back through the window. They took their time cleaning their clothes, which had gotten dirty when they were crouching on the balcony, but finally left Xa Xa and me alone...

When Xa Xa took her clothes off, she looked amazing. Great pair of tits and a curvaceous body with child-bearing hips and a nice ass. Wow!

Xa Xa took great care in washing my dick when we showered, so I thought I was in for a great BBBJ. But she completely refused to suck my dick, even covered. She was basically another starfish, but at least she was friendly and not at all bitchy.

After showering again, Xa Xa put her pajamas on and went to sleep. When I got back downstairs, the place was almost deserted...

Pao Pao

There were plenty more girls on my to-do list at the Pensão Forson, so I hurried back the next day.

Pao Pao looked totally disinterested at first, avoiding eye contact. But when I actually went up to talk to her (in sign language), a smile magically appeared on her pretty face.

After showering together, Pao Pao sucked on my nipples, but she wouldn’t suck my dick either. She was more active than other girls, though, riding my dick with some enthusiasm.

No pictures!

It took some convincing to get Xa Xa to agree to pictures. Pao Pao agreed immediately. But the next 3 girls refused and stubbornly kept refusing. Pity, as the talent pool at the Pensão Forson was littered with true beauties.

Loso

Loso69

01-01-07, 23:44

Xiao Yu

Pensão Ruby is another of the budget establishments in Macau, in an alley just opposite Pensão Forson. There were girls with a better figure than Xiao Yu, but I have a soft spot for blondes and I loved her glasses, so I picked her.

There’s no gweilo surcharge at the Pensão Ruby – the girls never asked for more than the standard Chinese price of 300 MOP. Once Xiao Yu had given me a thorough scrub-down, she asked for an extra 200 MOP for a CBJ, though. Since she hadn’t been difficult when I wanted to take pictures, I offered her 100 MOP extra, which she accepted. As an experiment, I offered her another 100 MOP for a BBBJ, but she wouldn’t go for that.

The CBJ was decent enough. But playing with her huge melons and getting a titty fuck was more fun. She wanted extra money for DATY as well (100 MOP). Fuck that! I just slammed it in and starting drilling her, while playing with her best assets.

Xiao Zhen

Xiao Zhen was the most beautiful girl in Pensão Ruby in my eyes. And she looked even more beautiful naked, as she combined a tiny waistline with firm C-cup tits.

Xiao Zhen was happy to pose for a few pictures. She wasn’t greedy and only asked for an extra 100 MOP for a great, long CBJ – wonderful suction power. And she seemed really hungry for my boner, as she just rammed it in and started grinding my dick really hard.

You can never talk about great service if the girls refuse kissing and will only give CBJs. But of the 5 Chinese girls in Macau, Xiao Zhen provided the best service.

Loso

TheGun

01-02-07, 00:19

Are you independently wealthy or do you just have a great job?

Love your reports, jealous of your frequency of hook ups.

If I may, what city is your favorite for hobbying and why?