General Info

[Lbcrascals]

So are they from Vietnam or Russia?

And how do they get them in?

[AlLostInSpace13]

I stayed at the San Va hotel and there is another hotel about 50-100 yards to the left (sorry can't remember name) which had a couple of girls standing in front of the entrance.
One night I ventured outside and this lady asked me if I wanted to go with her. Of course, I remembered reading about this on this forum, so I quickly asked her the price and she said 100.
She led be back to her hotel (the one 50-100 yards to left of San Va) and we had a quickie for 100 macau dollars. When we were going up the stairs, I saw about a dozen mainland girls sitting on the steps and they all gave me the look...
At 100 a pop it was a steal. Also there was another hotel close to San Va, on the main road (sorry can't remember name, but it's within 2-3 blocks), and when I passed by I noticed that some guy was getting the lineup. The girls look quite impressive!

[Richo Stevens]

I stayed at the San Va hotel.....Come on, that ain't a hotel it's a shithole with a capital S. If you can't afford a decent hotel, opt for the sauna's, I. E. Big Boss (Mona Lisa), great sleeping area and free food & drinks + internet and pools, for just 2xx. The girls in the area around Rue de Felicidad (where Sanva, Villa Hotel, Universal Hotel e. G.) you can push down to 30-50 after midnight, going towards the main street and Central Hotel, there are always 5-6 girls sitting in the lobby. 100-200 mops.

Or try your luck/charm by hitting on the many filipinas sitting around Senado Square in the late evening, might get lucky there if you smile wide!

[Franco]

Just came back from Macau & was very disappointed with the girls at the Lisboa basement.

Each time, I was approaching them, they were running away (I think they just cannot speak Engligh) or some were telling me incredible prices like "2 Thousand Dollars" !!!

I am anything but ugly, on the contrary...

But I cannot manage to understand their attitude.

Can anybody help?

Thanks!

[Beijing Lover]

Just came back from Macau & was very disappointed with the girls at the Lisboa basement.

Each time, I was approaching them, they were running away (I think they just cannot speak Engligh) or some were telling me incredible prices like "2 Thousand Dollars" !!!

I am anything but ugly, on the contrary...

But I cannot manage to understand their attitude.

Can anybody help?

Thanks!

Franco

You are just a foreigner, so they expect you to pay well for their fair skin and young bodies.
Some of them also fear the volume of our «love making machine».

Beijing Lover

[Fast Eddie 48]

Just came back from Macau & was very disappointed with the girls at the Lisboa basement.

Each time, I was approaching them, they were running away (I think they just cannot speak Engligh) or some were telling me incredible prices like "2 Thousand Dollars" !!!

I am anything but ugly, on the contrary...

But I cannot manage to understand their attitude.

Can anybody help?

Thanks!Franco,

I am not sure why they are scare of you standard price is 500 hkd for hong konger for a quckie , you should just go to a sauna like darling 1 cost is about 1400 hkd there girl is much hotter.

Fast eddie 48

[Franco]

Thanks Eddie 48 & Beijing Lover for your inputs.

Next time, I will head straight to Darling...



Franco,

I am not sure why they are scare of you standard price is 500 hkd for hong konger for a quckie , you should just go to a sauna like darling 1 cost is about 1400 hkd there girl is much hotter.

Fast eddie 48

[Sparky Boy]

In my opinion, the bad thing about darling 1 is that the girls are all sitting down and hence it will be harder to see their bodies.

Having said that, it's still worth it.

Is it a 60minute session now or still a 90 minute session?

[BruceTea]

Sorry to hear your experience of being turned away from the Lisboa basement. The girls there are very pretty, young, and work very professionally. If you offer 2000 MOP or more, your experience should and will be something spectacular. I went 5 months ago and had a very pretty young girl who's skinny and short. I offered 3000 MOP for a allnighter. She said ok and we went to my room at the Lisboa. It was spectacular and non-rushed and very intimate. Needless to say, it was expensive but she stayed until noon, shagging over 7 times total.

I would suggest that foreigners start off at 1000 MOP for 60 minutes. Demand 60 minutes from going into the room. Make sure or else find another girl. There should be like 30 girls at the hall. Why settle for someone who's unwilling? I've heard stories where the girls only provide 20 minutes and it's back to the basement. Demand 60 minutes but offer 1000MOP. Asians could get away with 500 to 700 MOP. True, but hey, that's why the service is rushed and so uninteresting.

Foreigners are not too welcomed due to the language barrier and perhaps services that will be too strange to provide. But money talks and if you are willing to pay, they'll be more likely to provide.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Sorry to hear your experience of being turned away from the Lisboa basement. The girls there are very pretty, young, and work very professionally. If you offer 2000 MOP or more, your experience should and will be something spectacular. I went 5 months ago and had a very pretty young girl who's skinny and short. I offered 3000 MOP for a allnighter. She said ok and we went to my room at the Lisboa. It was spectacular and non-rushed and very intimate. Needless to say, it was expensive but she stayed until noon, shagging over 7 times total.

I would suggest that foreigners start off at 1000 MOP for 60 minutes. Demand 60 minutes from going into the room. Make sure or else find another girl. There should be like 30 girls at the hall. Why settle for someone who's unwilling? I've heard stories where the girls only provide 20 minutes and it's back to the basement. Demand 60 minutes but offer 1000MOP. Asians could get away with 500 to 700 MOP. True, but hey, that's why the service is rushed and so uninteresting.

Foreigners are not too welcomed due to the language barrier and perhaps services that will be too strange to provide. But money talks and if you are willing to pay, they'll be more likely to provide.Bruce tea,

You are crazy to paid 3000 mop and tell other to offer 2000 mop to start don't you RTFF , ST cost is 500 mop even you are a Lawei don't spoil the market most of this girl is very rush in service but she just pick up a dumb newbie like yourself paid her 3000 mop she normal have to do 6 guys to get this .

Fast eddie 48

[Neuromancer]

Franco,

I am not sure why they are scare of you standard price is 500 hkd for hong konger for a quckie , you should just go to a sauna like darling 1 cost is about 1400 hkd there girl is much hotter.

Fast eddie 48Hmmm... based on previous posts, thought the price was HKD800, not sure if this was specifically for HK guys. I'm not a HK'er but am Chinese and speak Mandarin. Have never heard of a "HK" discount relative to other overseas Chinese.

I've only partaken from the shark pit once but the price she gave me was HKD800. I suppose that I could've haggled but I don't generally like doing this as I believe that it leads to sub-par service. Turns out I got sub-par service anyway. While she was quite a looker (8-ish or so in my book) the service was definitely sub-par as in - even more rushed than what you get at the 141's in HK, no LFK let alone DFK and couldn't even touch the lower regions.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hmmm... based on previous posts, thought the price was HKD800, not sure if this was specifically for HK guys. I'm not a HK'er but am Chinese and speak Mandarin. Have never heard of a "HK" discount relative to other overseas Chinese.

I've only partaken from the shark pit once but the price she gave me was HKD800. I suppose that I could've haggled but I don't generally like doing this as I believe that it leads to sub-par service. Turns out I got sub-par service anyway. While she was quite a looker (8-ish or so in my book) the service was definitely sub-par as in - even more rushed than what you get at the 141's in HK, no LFK let alone DFK and couldn't even touch the lower regions.Neuromancer,

Most girl in the racetrack are from the mainland they paid a high cost for visa paper they come to macau for 30 day most need to share a room with another girl and need to have 10 customer a day or 5000 mop ,this is why service is rush ,I am a oversea chinese from the US been going to racetrack every year for the last 18 yr and 600 hkd is the most I ever paid most girl the hot one will start at 1000 hkd ,for good service you need to hit the sauna or go across the border to Zhu hai hope this help you.

Fast eddie 48

[Guireson]

In my opinion, the bad thing about darling 1 is that the girls are all sitting down and hence it will be harder to see their bodies.

Having said that, it's still worth it.

Is it a 60minute session now or still a 90 minute session?90 minutes starting when head to your room. They have countdown clocks in the room that buzz at intervals starting when there are 15 minutes remaining. Not intrusive and the girls weren't checking that often - AFAICT.

[Guireson]

In my opinion, the bad thing about darling 1 is that the girls are all sitting down and hence it will be harder to see their bodies.

Having said that, it's still worth it.

Is it a 60minute session now or still a 90 minute session?90 minutes starting when head to your room. Countdown clocks in the room buzz at intervals starting when there are 15 minutes remaining. Not intrusive and the girls weren't checking that often - AFAICT.

[Sparky Boy]

Thanks Guireson, I'm happy that it's still 90minutes, will surely visit macau, zhuhai and shenzhen regularly soon.

This time I'm relocating permanently to HK for work.

Has anyone had any recent experiences at the Macau nightclubs like Deluxe, China City etc? I remember reading a great report about club de macau a while ago.

I also wonder if those nightclubs welcome single person because its hard to get a room if I am going there by myself.

Thanks

[Neuromancer]

Neuromancer,

Most girl in the racetrack are from the mainland they paid a high cost for visa paper they come to macau for 30 day most need to share a room with another girl and need to have 10 customer a day or 5000 mop ,this is why service is rush ,I am a oversea chinese from the US been going to racetrack every year for the last 18 yr and 600 hkd is the most I ever paid most girl the hot one will start at 1000 hkd ,for good service you need to hit the sauna or go across the border to Zhu hai hope this help you.

Fast eddie 48Yeah, normally hit the saunas. I suppose its the standardized time, so no reason to rush things combined with the potential of having the customer complain to management sets a minimum level of service. Remember one of the sauna girls telling me that she got to keep 300-400 per customer (can't remember exactly and I think she was just a "standard", not a "model") so even considering the 850 room rate at the Lisboa (per their website. Special Sun/Thu rate I think the Lisboa girls are doing ok.

Actually I think that the experience is not too far off the hotel reservation 141 girls (who also hop across the border on short term visas). Higher price for better looks but sub-par, rushed service (which is why I tend to avoid them as well, though sometimes I see one which I just need to try)

[Corpo]

I noticed that not that many people are trying out the discos. I'm in Mcaua twice a year for a period of 6-8 days. My favorite place is DD. Half the time if you stick around long enough, you can get a freebie, especially a Russian. It also helps if you speaak the language. (thank God). Now that they moved, there is a great bar on the top floor of this office building. The girls are gorgeous. On my next trip, I do want to check out the ZhuHai, seems like the saunas are getting great reviews on the other thread.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Yeah, normally hit the saunas. I suppose its the standardized time, so no reason to rush things combined with the potential of having the customer complain to management sets a minimum level of service. Remember one of the sauna girls telling me that she got to keep 300-400 per customer (can't remember exactly and I think she was just a "standard", not a "model") so even considering the 850 room rate at the Lisboa (per their website. Special Sun/Thu rate I think the Lisboa girls are doing ok.

Actually I think that the experience is not too far off the hotel reservation 141 girls (who also hop across the border on short term visas). Higher price for better looks but sub-par, rushed service (which is why I tend to avoid them as well, though sometimes I see one which I just need to try)Neuromancer,

The girl pay more than 850 a day rate for the room they need to paid protection money to the mob , I think the girl quality here is better than the 141 girl in Hk and the hotel room is better so you should pay a bit more and go for the sauna experience .

Fast eddie 48

[Richo Stevens]

The girl pay more than 850 a day rate for the room they need to paid protection money to the mob...I am not so sure about the protection money, but for as far as for the hotel rate it's less than 700 a day, and often more than two girls share the same room, so it makes even less. tried to upload some pictures from the basement, but too large so have to get a friend to fix them for me first.

[Possessed Seoul]

Anyone encountered Black ladies here from Portuguese-speaking Africa? If so where and how much?

[Beijing Lover]

Anyone encountered Black ladies here from Portuguese-speaking Africa? If so where and how much?

There are lots of african ladies in Macau from Portuguese speaking countries in Macau.
Most are university students and they have their regular boyfriends who provide all the money they need to survive without having to engage in any kind of sex trade.
Some of them are real stunners, but they are really nor available for mongers.
Big Boss Sauna used to have a black woman working there and I know that the demand for her services was huge.

[Corpo]

Anyone encountered Black ladies here from Portuguese-speaking Africa? If so where and how much?Possessed Seoul,

I have encountered some African women in Macau and they seem to have been permenantly taken. On recent trips, ran into a couple at the DD and they seem to have been available, never asked. Not my thing. I assume they will probably been more than the average oriental since they are few and far between.

[Sparky Boy]

Hey guys, check this out, it's pretty kool.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/91104/macau_brothel/

Can anyone tell me what sauna/place this was at?

You can see the chinese words as the price list flashes across but I can't really make it out.

Hope you guys enjoy it.

[Nedword]

On prior trips to Macau I have done most of my mongering in the Hotels and Pensions in the Inner Harbour area. On this trip I ended up staying in the Inner Harbor, at the East Asia Hotel and the Florida Pension. I had this idea that by staying there there would be prostitutes in the lobby and I would not even have to go outside. I was wrong, there were no prostitutes in either.

I went out to find a prostitute. I am walking down Avenida de Almeida Ribero towards the inner harbor, and come to Travessa de Matadouro, a small side street. I follow this down till it dead ends in three blocks where there normally girls out in the day tie soliciting, as it is not day time I walk up the stairs and thats where the girls are at this time. There are maybe 10 girls in the room, some are ugly, some are to made up and one is perfect. I pick the perfect girl, we go to her room, strip and fuck. The girl was maybe 20, she had a fresh clean look to her with minimal makeup. At massage places or the Lisboa, the chicks have on all that make up, and you kind of wonder, but this chick, Lily, was just what I really like, cute. The sex was fine, no warm up or anything just sex, but whats nice is that the noises she made were real, no screams of fake moans, just natural sounds, wonderful, just what I like. I finish we wash up and I pay Lily her 200 MOP.

A few days later I am at the London Hotel and mid day. There are maybe 6 girls sitting one the stairs. I pick a 20 year old that was pretty good looking. We go up to her room, strip and fuck. Its midday though, and its hot, and I am kind of tired, and because there are no preliminaries I am not finishing as quickly as I like to. I am now drenched in sweat and exhausted, this is a struggle but I continue on until I quit in utter failure. I pay the girl 300 MOP shower and leave.

On morning around 6:00 AM I walked by the Forshan and looked in the window, a girl looked out. I signaled 300 and she countered with 500, so I kept on going. I thought the early hour would be good for a discounted price but it wasn't. I didn't visit the Rubi on this trip as I always got annoyed there in the past as the would hit you up for an extra 100 MOP charge for a BJ and then they would try to get their friend in on the action also, for extra MOP's.

At the end of my trip I went back to find Lily at the first place. She wasn't there, just a bunch of annoying and not too attractive ladies that failed to interest me.

Over all I was pleased with the pensions on this trip. Its nice to know that prices are the same as they have been since I was in Macau 3/4 years ago, and although there are lots of not to pretty chicks selling themselves, there are still some pleasant girls to be found.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Wild Child 1]

Hey guys, check this out, it's pretty kool.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/91104/macau_brothel/

Can anyone tell me what sauna/place this was at?

You can see the chinese words as the price list flashes across but I can't really make it out.

Hope you guys enjoy it.

Sparky Boy, very very nice

are we any closer to finding out where this place is ?

[Sparky Boy]

Ye just looking at those girls makes you wanna visit the place.

I'm not sure about this but I asked this in another forum and someone said that it is Tai Yeung sauna at New santra Hotel.

I don't know how reliable that information is though, I tried googling Tai Yeung and nothing really showed.

[Wild Child 1]

Ye just looking at those girls makes you wanna visit the place.

I'm not sure about this but I asked this in another forum and someone said that it is Tai Yeung sauna at New santra Hotel.

I don't know how reliable that information is though, I tried googling Tai Yeung and nothing really showed.

Indeed the same info I got after googling, and that forum says it's closed :(

on another related note, apart from RIO and 18, what else would even come close to that in Macau that anyone may know off, as I am due to lose $50 if I don't take my guys there or similar place, they are in love with Macau since watching the video.

Thanks in advance

[Snoopy Guy]

Hey guys, check this out, it's pretty kool.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/91104/macau_brothel/

Can anyone tell me what sauna/place this was at?

You can see the chinese words as the price list flashes across but I can't really make it out.

Hope you guys enjoy it.This place is called Tai Yuen Sun, at the New Santra Hotel, but its closed now.

[Thomas Jefferson]

I stayed in the starworld hotel not far from the holiday inn walkway. After a day of sightseeing I needed some entertainment for the night. I checked the lisboa hotel racetrack and got hot by all these sexy girls, but knowing the service is no good at all, I just looked a bit and left.

So I went to the holiday in area around midnight (just 5 min walk) and saw 2 girls standing behind the holiday inn. One was very cute from China/wuhan 22 years old. She did not speak much english, but I can speak some mandarin (helps really! ). She quoted hkd 1000, but I offered 500 and she agreed at once (ups surprise). We went to my hotel (big hotel, many people, no one will stop you there).

Service was excelent, nice sex, and nice talking. She stayed around 2 hours and seemed to enjoy it. She gave me her mobile number and I called her again next night, same price, same service.

The holiday inn walkway has not many girls now, but sometimes it is still possible to find someone there. On the way to the lisboa from there, I saw 3 eastern europe girls (russians? ), but not my type.

Thomas Jefferson

[Haiphong]

The place WAS called FUJI sauna and was in the annex to the Lisboa Hotel. It has been closed for perhaps two years now and in its hey day had some of the finest Thai ladies in Macau working there (in addition to Vietnamese, Mongolians, etc.)




Hey guys, check this out, it's pretty kool.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/91104/macau_brothel/

Can anyone tell me what sauna/place this was at?

You can see the chinese words as the price list flashes across but I can't really make it out.

Hope you guys enjoy it.

[Sparky Boy]

The place WAS called FUJI sauna and was in the annex to the Lisboa Hotel. It has been closed for perhaps two years now and in its hey day had some of the finest Thai ladies in Macau working there (in addition to Vietnamese, Mongolians, etc.)Thanks for that. It's a pity that everyone says the place is closed down. But Macau does have many other choices.

[One Eyed Monger]

Yeah. Fuji was the shit.

That video was actually taken from a site that had several other videos from various places in Macau and Hong Kong, like the Lisboa Race Track (back when it was at it's height). It even had videos showing the 141 experience. The guys who made it had a hidden camera in their bag so they were able to shoot footage of the women and the environments without notice.

I think the site they were originally on is down now though, as I haven't been able to find it in a while.

The version that was linked to is modified, as the original music track is different.

OEM


The place WAS called FUJI sauna and was in the annex to the Lisboa Hotel. It has been closed for perhaps two years now and in its hey day had some of the finest Thai ladies in Macau working there (in addition to Vietnamese, Mongolians, etc.)

[Sparky Boy]

Damn, I've been googling and youtubing for macau and 141 videos, too bad that site is down.

I found this guy on youtube that has some macau stuff but its not as comprehensive as OEM's site.

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=sekainoasobiba&p=r


Yeah. Fuji was the shit.

That video was actually taken from a site that had several other videos from various places in Macau and Hong Kong, like the Lisboa Race Track (back when it was at it's height). It even had videos showing the 141 experience. The guys who made it had a hidden camera in their bag so they were able to shoot footage of the women and the environments without notice.

I think the site they were originally on is down now though, as I haven't been able to find it in a while.

The version that was linked to is modified, as the original music track is different.

OEM

[Clandestine782]

There are lots of african ladies in Macau from Portuguese speaking countries in Macau.
Most are university students and they have their regular boyfriends who provide all the money they need to survive without having to engage in any kind of sex trade.
Some of them are real stunners, but they are really nor available for mongers.
Big Boss Sauna used to have a black woman working there and I know that the demand for her services was huge.
I have never heard of black women working in the sex industry in Asia. Do you know if their customers are other blacks (unlikely) or Chinese men?

[Tiger 888]

I have never heard of black women working in the sex industry in Asia. Do you know if their customers are other blacks (unlikely) or Chinese men?There definitely were some in Sticky Fingers in Hong Kong. The customers were almost 100% foreigners. Since some time they tend to not let the pros in anymore. But this is a bit at random.

[Erik]

In Macao I don't know, but in Bangkok yes. I have recently been approached by a girl from Ruanda on Sukhumvit. And by some black mamas before.

[Beijing Lover]

I have never heard of black women working in the sex industry in Asia. Do you know if their customers are other blacks (unlikely) or Chinese men?

There is also a black girl working in Big Boss Sauna.
Se is quite a stunner with firm body.
I've met her after work in D2.

Beijinglover

[BruceTea]

It's a shame Lisboa does not have a Sauna.

Things could get interesting with a Sauna, a Raceway, and. Well, it's in a touristy location.

[Mmggg]

Anyone know of any cheap, clean hotels close to the action in Macau?

Thanks

[Hat Trick]

Anyone know of any cheap, clean hotels close to the action in Macau?

Thanks

There are tons of 'hotels' close to the action, but I'm not sure you want to 'stay' there for several nights just to monger.

Just walk from the ferry terminal, make a right at Yaohan and Fisherman Wharf toward the Fortuna Sauna/Holiday Inn where the action is. You will come to a shopping arcade/strip mall, behind that, you will find 5-6 old ladies sitting in little chairs telling passerby '100 dollars' in cantonese. (after dark)

The rooms are actually 200-300 once you get in, the 100 rooms are full. Girls will periodically knock on your door and ask you if you want company. Not sure the girls rates or quality, but multiple pops with multiple girls in one room is possible, or the norm.

There is another enclave of cheapside 'hotels' near the sports complex/Hou Va sauna. Rooms sub 300 toilet is a hole in the floor.

Moral of the story, go downstairs at Macau ferry terminal or Shun Tak center, take one of the rooms offered at the desk for 300-400 on the Macau side, you shouldn't be too far away from the action.

HT

[Sainter]

I arrived in Macau yesterday. Checkout out D2 last night. Wasn't a lot happening. There was a bunch of skantly dressed Thai dancers doing their thing and sitting with customers. Also a few Russian working girls, but definitely not good lookers. May go again tonight, this place doesnt usually go off till around 2am.

Also walked the racetrack, same old, same old china *****s. Looks not bad but performance is always questionable.

[Beijing Lover]

I arrived in Macau yesterday. Checkout out D2 last night. Wasn't a lot happening. There was a bunch of skantly dressed Thai dancers doing their thing and sitting with customers. Also a few Russian working girls, but definitely not good lookers. May go again tonight, this place doesnt usually go off till around 2am.

Also walked the racetrack, same old, same old china *****s. Looks not bad but performance is always questionable.


Just try D2 after 4am.
That place is rocking.
Other areas to take into account are MP3 bar and The Lion inside MGM.

[Sainter]

Yeah ive checked it out after 4am. Its packed but i tend to find that the girls pay more attention to the white clients rather than ppl of asian descent like me. No big deal anyway.

Heading over the border to Zhuhai, should be an experience from what ive been told.

[Beijing Lover]

Yeah ive checked it out after 4am. Its packed but i tend to find that the girls pay more attention to the white clients rather than ppl of asian descent like me. No big deal anyway.

Heading over the border to Zhuhai, should be an experience from what ive been told.

Most of those women they work in saunas and night clubs which patronize asian clients.
Therefore they are fed up of asian men and they want to be in the hands of caucasian guys.
I agree with you.
Zhuhai is indeed a completely different experience.

Beijinglover

[The Voice]

Hi

Quick question, are sauna or hotel packages available from either the HK ferry terminal or in Macau or are they only available from Shun Tak? In terms of hotel ammodation, it is better value to book something like the Lisboa from Shun Tak - or anyhere else - or by last minute deals through the net?

Thanks

TV

[Sparky Boy]

I don't think theres any package deals in Macau because the discount that the package provides is in the return ferry tickets. I think they are all at Shun Tak which is at MTR station Sheung Wan on the HK Island side.

I'm not sure of the cheapest method to book hotel but if you go to shun tak you will see shops with a list of hotels and the current price.

[The Voice]

I don't think theres any package deals in Macau because the discount that the package provides is in the return ferry tickets. I think they are all at Shun Tak which is at MTR station Sheung Wan on the HK Island side.

I'm not sure of the cheapest method to book hotel but if you go to shun tak you will see shops with a list of hotels and the current price.

Thanks for the info SB

[Gyaos]

I think they are all at Shun Tak which is at MTR station Sheung Wan on the HK Island side.

They are also at the TST side, China Ferry Terminal, where First Ferry departs off Canton Rd. Well, they used to be there.

Gyaos.

[DriftKing]

Hi,

I'm new to the site, a long time reader.

I be going in HK from 27 till 29 March looking for people to KTV with in HK or macau, never been to KTV before but been reading the report and it seem its best to go with few people.

I don't mind KTV in Macau or HK just want to try it out.

If any one want to just post a message on the site as I don't have PM.

If no one is up for it can anyone give me info of a gd KTV I can go alone. Looking to spend about $1000HK max to enjoy myself for a few hr. In HK or Macau, looking for a KTV where the girls go wild.

Chinese/Australian 26yr old (speak cantonese). Hope to hear from some you guyz.

[Sean EZ]

Passing through Macau on the way from Kong Hong to Thailand on Fri Night club D2 was happening, with some cute Thai girls dancing on the bar, lots of russian girls, some are hot. The afterhours place is a new club MP4, much bigger than D2. MP4 full of russian girls, and some regular partying people as well. We were also told of MP3 which is a strip club that is also open on weekdays. Because we had an early flight next day we didn't check out the saunas. AirAsia has some low fares to Thailand, beware though if your checked luggage exceeds 10 kilos you will be charged.

[Goatboy55]

Stopped by the Lisboa basement this weekend just to see what the scene was. There were a lot of very hot chinese girls walking around. I stopped in a little restaurant and ordered some pork and rice and some beer. Got a good window seat to survey the scene. A couple of girls came into the restaurant and propositioned me (no english spoken, just pointing as if to say 'upstairs') - I declined as I had a plan for the fortuna sauna that night. But it is possible for westerners to score at the Lisboa. (I had read on here that some westerners were not approached by the girls down there)

[RCA Knight]

These Lisboa race girls are on a mission. They try to generate their biggest income while short stay in Macao. I have been there many times, and if you dress nice and clean looking westerner, they will most likely go up with you. A session is about 40 min to at most an hour, no real fixed time. They decide their own time, no pimp will call, but other roommates may call try to hurry you when they have a catch.

They may not approach westerners, but you can approach them to test their affinity. I have tried about 7-8 of them in the past, I would say half hits and half misses. I remembered 2 of them were hot and very into the acts and long and passionate bbbj, but also a few very mechanical ones like screwing the lumber. There is no way to know the performance by looking and briefly talking.

But just see the 800 HKD is to purchase the right to be with a young and gorgeous girl, don't expect much about performance, have to think you are lucky if you get any.

[Peter Den]

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone stayed at Fortuna Hotel recently? Is this a girl friendly hotel? I RTFF and did not find any recents info.

Thanks

[Sparky Boy]

I can't speak from experience but I would say that the probability that it is girl friendly is 99.9%.

I've never had any problems bringing back girls to hotels in Macau.

This stuff is so open in Macau it is perfectly normal and accepted in all hotels especially the non western hotels.

Fortuna also houses Supreme sauna and fortuna nightclub too.

[Gyaos]

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone stayed at Fortuna Hotel recently? Is this a girl friendly hotel? I RTFF and did not find any recents info. Thanks

You should read the Sauna forum. Fortuna has Supreme Sauna and a nightclub on the upper floors.

Gyaos.

[Peter Den]

You should read the Sauna forum. Fortuna has Supreme Sauna and a nightclub on the upper floors.

Gyaos.Thanks, Gyaos.

I RTFF the sauna forum as well, but was wondering how the accommodations are in Fortuna Hotel.

[Johnny Rocket]

Gents,

Sometime in the next few weeks I'll spend a weekend in Macau. I did RTFF, but I'd like to ask some opinions.

I'd like to stay within reasonable walking distance of the Lisboa. I'd also like a place that is clean and safe at minimum cost. It does not have to be luxurious. I'm thinking the Sintra. The Central seems like too much of a dump. Am I on target here? Other suggestions welcome.

Also how easy is it to pick up cheapies or freebies? Last time I was in Macau just strolling through casinos I had girls "making eyes" at me. My first instinct was they might be working girls, but wouldn't the casinos try to keep them off the actual gaming floors? So I thought maybe they were just interested?

Also, anybody ever pick up the locals/Flippers working at cigarette girls or waitresses? I once flirted with a cigarette girl at a certain casino and she agreed to have a drink with me when she got off work. I sensed she'd be an easy lay, but she was not allowed to be with me socially at that casino; she said we'd have to go elsewhere. Well, I was staying at that casino and did not want to walk through the streets of Macau with her as I was attending a convention and would likely be recognized.

I notice from the forum that DD or D2 has moved recently. Where is it now and is this a good place to pick up? Or else, where, close to the Lisboa, is my best bet for someone who doesn't know his way around at all? I'd hope not to spend more than HKD500 for a girl. I do speak Cantonese.

Thanks for your help everyone.

[Tiger 888]

Gents,

Sometime in the next few weeks I'll spend a weekend in Macau. I did RTFF, but I'd like to ask some opinions.

I'd like to stay within reasonable walking distance of the Lisboa. I'd also like a place that is clean and safe at minimum cost. It does not have to be luxurious. I'm thinking the Sintra. The Central seems like too much of a dump. Am I on target here? Other suggestions welcome.

Also how easy is it to pick up cheapies or freebies? Last time I was in Macau just strolling through casinos I had girls "making eyes" at me. My first instinct was they might be working girls, but wouldn't the casinos try to keep them off the actual gaming floors? So I thought maybe they were just interested?

Also, anybody ever pick up the locals/Flippers working at cigarette girls or waitresses? I once flirted with a cigarette girl at a certain casino and she agreed to have a drink with me when she got off work. I sensed she'd be an easy lay, but she was not allowed to be with me socially at that casino; she said we'd have to go elsewhere. Well, I was staying at that casino and did not want to walk through the streets of Macau with her as I was attending a convention and would likely be recognized.

I notice from the forum that DD or D2 has moved recently. Where is it now and is this a good place to pick up? Or else, where, close to the Lisboa, is my best bet for someone who doesn't know his way around at all? I'd hope not to spend more than HKD500 for a girl. I do speak Cantonese.

Thanks for your help everyone.Regarding the hotels, forget the central, it is a complete dumphole. You can't even take a look at the rooms.
But there are other options nearby.
One of the cheaper places is the Florida Hotel. It used to be 250 when I stayed there last about 2 years ago (I have my own place in macau now). But weekends might be more expensive.

The Indonesians have trouble getting into D2 and now hang out at MP4 (Thats what I heard) in the basement of the Royal Hotel.
I am not sure if its officially open yet. It used to be "inofficially" open (a month ago or so), with signs saying it's closed - They still had some licensing problem. Don't expect action there before 1-2 am.

I have attached a namecard of the hotel. You may want to call them to see if they are still open (Things change fast in Macau these days). You will need to find the phone number from the yellow pages:
http://www.yp.com.mo/en/searchresult.asp?lang=e&cc=57440&offset=36

[Nedword]

One of the cheaper places is the Florida Hotel. It used to be 250 when I stayed there last about 2 years ago. But weekends might be more expensive.
I stayed in the Florida at the end of last year. It sucked. I had never seen ice shoot out of an a/c unit until staying at that hotel. The shower and bed also sucked.

The East Asia was much better at right around the same price, maybe a bit more, but also a slightly longer walk to the Lisboa.

[Tiger 888]

I stayed in the Florida at the end of last year. It sucked. I had never seen ice shoot out of an a/c unit until staying at that hotel. The shower and bed also sucked.

The East Asia was much better at right around the same price, maybe a bit more, but also a slightly longer walk to the Lisboa.
I agree it is not a high quality place though I haven't had an issue there.
It is way better than the Central.
The East Asia is a bit more expensive as I recall (+100 or so), but not sure. It is definitely worth to check out.

Macau is getting expensive these days. My favourite hotel was the Kingsway at 400-450 per night until it closed for something newer and more expensive once finished.

[Rod Ram]

Hi,

It seems the advice from members for a first time visitor is:

1. Buy a package at the ferry station, upgrade on the island if necessary.
2. No need to book hotels in advance, staying at the sauna is good enough.
3. 18 is the best sauna.

Am going to visit for one day over the weekend so would appreciate confirmation and comments.

Thanks Guys

[Apac Man]

Hi,

It seems the advice from members for a first time visitor is:

1. Buy a package at the ferry station, upgrade on the island if necessary.
2. No need to book hotels in advance, staying at the sauna is good enough.
3. 18 is the best sauna.

Am going to visit for one day over the weekend so would appreciate confirmation and comments.

Thanks Guys

Hi RR,

For most part your conclusion is correct! The part that I may not agree with is number 3. What makes a Sauna the best solely depends on the individual and it is not a black&white thing. If I like blonds and I can only find it on XYZ, then XYZ is the best. If only the look is important to me and the girl could lay there like a dead fish, well a beautiful dead fish, then maybe 18 is the best. I myself tried "Boss", not "Big Boss" sauna a few weeks ago and price wise it is in the middle and I really enjoyed my time there. I liked it as the whole package, staff, managers, attendants, building, food, services, etc.. I came out happy and I thought the value of what I got to what I paid was excellent.

My advice is to read the reviews for saunas, see what is it that people liked in each sauna and compare it to what you are looking for and make your selection based on that. Also have a couple alternatives as well. Then walk to an agency with 3 choices and compare prices and make a final decision.

I hope you have a great time and keep us informed about your point of view.

Best Regards,

APAC Man

[Sparky Boy]

18

1) This place has more girls than any other sauna in macau.

2) You will see 70-100 girls from sunday night to thursday night (between 8pm to 1am

3) You will not have trouble finding a girl that is attractive even if you are real picky

4) Friday night and Saturday night, the place is packed like sardines in a can, very hard to even find a seat, even harder if your with your friends and want to sit together, the eating area will also likely be full, so just gotta hang around. There will be so many guys at the selection area by the pools, you see about 50 guys and maybe 40 or so girls ( this is because they are all busy fucking downstairs).

5) Expect to wait half an hour after you picked your girl to get a room. This is because all the rooms are full, there are at least 100 rooms downstairs.

6) Average food, not the most comfortable seats, no mobile internet booths/laptops not very good sleep area.

7) Not all girls give blowjob without condom.

18 is like the Eiffel tower in France, its a landmark that has to be visited.

The best thing about 18 is the selection of girls BUT it is just too packed on fri and sat nights which unfortunately limits the selection of girls and enjoyment of facilities.


I prefer rio, east spa club and noble on a weekend but I would take a friend who hasnt been to macau saunas to 18 for the first time. 18 has the wow factor.

Here's a sneak peak of the lineup at 18 i found:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkparrZZni8


Price: package price from hk which includes return ferry tickets and a free mini service, (eg, foot massage, leg massage etc...) btw if you want to pick the model you have to add about 400 or 500 to the price, models are the taller girls.

rio: 17xx hkd
18: 15xx hkd
east spa club: 15xx hkd
noble: 13xx hkd

[Freeman 418]

I just got back..

Cheepies or freebies.. not easy. Not WGs anyway.. you might be lucky with a waitress or worker there. I got a few numbers, but due to my short stay, trying to manage a freebie or ST relationship was too rushed.

Yes, the bar girls or waitresses will talk with you if they like you.. it wasn't hard at all to be friendly with them.

D2 was across the road from Emperor Hotel (i think that's the name-.. it's a square building with very average casino inside. Level 10 there's a spa/sauna and another level has some sort of an expensive brothel (ie. mamasan was quoting like 2K for the place, 2K for the girl plus drinks.. not cheap.. and yet there were quite a few guys there.. didn't stay)
As for D2, it was midnight and the place was empty.. i think it gets busier after 1am. I was too tired to wait around.

A lot of the casinos, and especially where I was staying had Chinese WGs circling the gaming floors looking for STs.. the prices they were asking were starting 2000 HK, (they will try anything), which could then be bargained down to 1000 HK. I didn't find any willing to go to 500K.




Gents,

Also how easy is it to pick up cheapies or freebies? Last time I was in Macau just strolling through casinos I had girls "making eyes" at me. My first instinct was they might be working girls, but wouldn't the casinos try to keep them off the actual gaming floors? So I thought maybe they were just interested?

Also, anybody ever pick up the locals/Flippers working at cigarette girls or waitresses?

I notice from the forum that DD or D2 has moved recently. Where is it now and is this a good place to pick up? Or else, where, close to the Lisboa, is my best bet for someone who doesn't know his way around at all? I'd hope not to spend more than HKD500 for a girl.

Thanks for your help everyone.

[Freeman 418]

Stayed at The Venetian (definitely an interesting experience.. ) which I have to say was a great place.. had everything you need inside an 5* hotel facilities. Gets crowded in the day from HK people coming over, but most leave at night.

Went for a ride over the other island to Lisboa, didn't find anything much interesting there (though probably looking in wrong place), and walked around to about 4 other casinos: Wymm, MGM, Emperor, Fortuna.
Also checked out a sauna line up.. i think the sauna was Beverley or something.. had about 20 girls lined up, 18/20 were very hot, 4 russians, one black, rest asians. Min asking price 1100.

I think it's Fortuna (place with a crown on it) has a sauna inside and also "nightclub" which turns out to be an expensive brothel (2K for place, 2K for girl and extras for drinks).. don't expect much English.
The casino in the place is very average.

Went to D2 across from the above, but too early (midnight) and couldnt be bothered to wait until after 2am.. other guys coming out recommended 18, but I went back to Venetian.

Around 10-3am the casino in Venetian is crawling with Chinese WGs, mostly around the pokies area.. they casino doesn't like it, and will usher them on if they talk with guests.. but they can't remove them, or don't care in the end. They will question the girl if you take them upstairs, but if she says she is with you, it's OK.
Most will quote you 1000HK or 2000 for a massage.. I didn't get any down below 1000K. All sorts.. some are hot, some are very average to nothing.
They especially look for people staying in the place so you can go upstairs for short-time.

On the last night there procured a stunner 10/10 PRC.. she wanted 2000, but got her down to 1100.. which is still pricey in my opinion, considering I can get that price back home, but it was a one-off thing, so went for it.

Got her back to the room, and she gets down to business right away.. ripped her clothes off fast, and jumped in the shower. I have to say, seeing those coconuts and that model face and body, it was worth it.
After shower, she allowed some foreplay, and gave a CBJ (my friend got his girl to give him BBBJ, but she was about 6/10). Did FS, which was pretty ordinary, and ended up finishing off in 69 position with that heavenly pussy and hole in front of my face (got daty).

Couldn't chat much since she spoke 3 words of English.. but a few laughs here n there at the end, and then she was out the door. Would do it again.

[Rod Ram]

Hi RR,

For most part your conclusion is correct! The part that I may not agree with is number 3. What makes a Sauna the best solely depends on the individual and it is not a black&white thing. If I like blonds and I can only find it on XYZ, then XYZ is the best. If only the look is important to me and the girl could lay there like a dead fish, well a beautiful dead fish, then maybe 18 is the best. I myself tried "Boss", not "Big Boss" sauna a few weeks ago and price wise it is in the middle and I really enjoyed my time there. I liked it as the whole package, staff, managers, attendants, building, food, services, etc.. I came out happy and I thought the value of what I got to what I paid was excellent.

My advice is to read the reviews for saunas, see what is it that people liked in each sauna and compare it to what you are looking for and make your selection based on that. Also have a couple alternatives as well. Then walk to an agency with 3 choices and compare prices and make a final decision.

I hope you have a great time and keep us informed about your point of view.

Best Regards,

APAC ManAppreciate your comments. I guess another post says 18 is too busy on the weekend. I plan to stay overnight on Saturday night so worried if sauna is too crowded, maybe will need to stay in a hotel.

Is that better?

Rgds,

RR

[Apac Man]

Appreciate your comments. I guess another post says 18 is too busy on the weekend. I plan to stay overnight on Saturday night so worried if sauna is too crowded, maybe will need to stay in a hotel.

Is that better?

Rgds,

RR

That probably is not a bad idea though rates goes up for Friday and Saturday nights at hotels.

APAC Man

[Pcpc1688]

I was in Macau in early Feb and had a chance to go to Sauna there. this is the old Lisboa Hotel. Got the hot oil bassage for 390hk. The girl was from Thailand and cute cute.

Gave me a great hard massage and I wanted extras. She wante 1000hk, I gave her 400hk. Although she was rather a dead fish, I had a great time fucking every which way but loose. Very wet and tight girl. I will get her digits next time for maybe take out. Nice place and good resting area too.

Pc out

[Sparky Boy]

D2 was across the road from Emperor Hotel (i think that's the name-.. it's a square building with very average casino inside.

Just a tiny correction, DD2 is actually across the road from the Grand Emperor Hotel. The Emperor hotel is opposite the Landmark.

Yeh, hotel rates do go up on weekends, oh well.

[Fast Eddie 48]

I will be attending the Mega Macao trade show april 21-23 at the Venetian hotel convention center any one going to Macao at that time .

Fast eddie 48

[Sunnyup]

Any actions at the Venetitain resort like the LISBOA hotel. Maybe at the bar or something. How about Colombian or Russian girls there or do they even exist in Macua.

Thanks

[Manfest]

Any actions at the Venetitain resort like the LISBOA hotel. Maybe at the bar or something. How about Colombian or Russian girls there or do they even exist in Macua.


I'm so perplexed by this post that I can't say RTFF. WTF is more appropriate. Cheers, have a nice day.

[Johnny Rocket]

I couldn't reach the Florida, so perhaps it has closed?

I went with East Asia instead for 800/night. Steep but the cheapest around I guess. How far to walk to Lisboa?

[Nedword]

I couldn't reach the Florida, so perhaps it has closed?

I went with East Asia instead for 800/night. Steep but the cheapest around I guess. How far to walk to Lisboa?Dude, I stayed at the East Asia a few months ago for 300MOP. Skip the reservations just show up and walk into the Florida, if they are busy just go onto the next. Over on the Street of Happiness there are lots of other places that are much less than 800, dude I'd stay at the London where there are already tonnes of *****s in the Lobby rather than pay 800 for the East Asia.

But since you're there its maybe a 20 minute walk to the Lisboa. Or you can catch any bus headed in that direction and get there quicker for 3 MOPS or so.

[Johnny Rocket]

Nedword, thanks for your advice. But I'm worried that if I just walk in somewhere it'll be a shithole, or there won't be any room left anywhere.

Are there really a bunch of places close to Lisboa where it is cheap and I'll be able to get a room just by walking in, and they are SAFE and at least basically clean? *****s are a bonus but I assume I can pick one up anywhere.

Thanks for your help everyone.
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket

[Jay Tea]

Hello,

I am new to this forum. I will be going to Hong Kong in May and from there to Macau and than to Shen Zhen (SheKou). I will be arriving at the Hong Kong airport around 7 ish in the evening and I am thinking that the best thing for me to do would be to go to Macau right away and try to find a place to stay there as I have heard that Hong Kong is very expensive.

Anyway, I was hoping that I could get some good advice about how to go to Macau, where to stay and such.

My goals: I'm in Macau for 2 days and want to have the best time possible and as many beautiful girls as possible. And any other information you guys might have. I am a White American, but I speak Manderin pretty well. Thanks a lot for any help you guys are willing to give!

[Etaoin2003]

I will be arriving at the Hong Kong airport around 7 ish in the evening and I am thinking that the best thing for me to do would be to go to Macau right away and try to find a place to stay there as I have heard that Hong Kong is very expensive.

See http://www.turbojetseaexpress.com.hk/eng/schedule/airport.html

Last sailing is at 22:00, which you should be able to make easily, as you do not have to pass through HK immigration. Instead you go straight to Macau immigration at the end of the ride.

There are tons of cheap hotels in both HK and Macau. Personally I think HK offers more cheap mongering than Macau but Macau has the great saunas.

[Nedword]

I'm worried that if I just walk in somewhere it'll be a shithole, or there won't be any room left anywhere. Are there really a bunch of places close to Lisboa where it is cheap and I'll be able to get a room just by walking in, and they are SAFE and at least basically clean?Let me preface my answer by saying that over time I have developed pretty lax standards as far as places that I am will to stay at. Case in point, the Florida. That place really sucks but I would stay there again, the price was right and I like the location.

So if you want to save some money on lodging, show up without a reservation, get a taxi to the Central Hotel then walk over to the Florida. If that place is full, cross the main street there Ave Riebero (or something) walk down one of the streets and you'll hit Rue de Felicidad. There are several other places right around there in which you can stay.

As far as safety, I think that if you take regular safety measures with your valuables there is no problem. And cleanliness, it should be OK.

The way I think is that I can pay 1000 on a weekend to stay at a nicer place, or 200-300 to stay at a cheap place, then have much more money to bang *****s. And if the difference is 700 heck thats the price over at the Boss.

Have a nice trip.

[Peterpack]

Hi guys,

Overall in Macau, are most of the working ladies Asian?

How many western Working girls are there in Macau?

[Sparky Boy]

Yeh most of them are asian, either mainland, thai or vietnamese.

The saunas usually have like 2 or 3 western girls

18 will probably have about 5 western girls.

[Sexypussy]

I would just like to update on my recent trip to Macau's cheap places for sex. I went to London Hotel around 8pm and there were no girls at all. And the same things goes for East Asia and Florida hotels. Central Hotel is still happening but I never really liked the girls there. Also near East Asia Hotel there are two hotels with girls in the lobby. They were asking for 300-600HKD but I am a gweilo so it is probably cheaper for a local. But near the Rua da Felicidade, I was able to go with a girl for 100HKD. She was fine but the quality is nothing compared to the girls in the hotel lobbies.

These are the cheapest that I have found in Macau. They are great for quickies and you can have them more often. But things are expensive in Macau, so it might not be profitable for these places to continue. The next best are the race girls in Lisboa and then the best are the saunas.

[Poopbunny]

Gents,

Sometime in the next few weeks I'll spend a weekend in Macau. I did RTFF, but I'd like to ask some opinions.

I'd like to stay within reasonable walking distance of the Lisboa. I'd also like a place that is clean and safe at minimum cost. It does not have to be luxurious. I'm thinking the Sintra. The Central seems like too much of a dump. Am I on target here? Other suggestions welcome.
.

I have stayed at the Sintra and found it below average. IMO Holiday Inn is a better deal, the rooms are slighty better and I think also a tad cheaper. Walking distance to Lisboa about 5 min. I prefer Holiday Inn to Sintra because its closer to the Sands, and from Sands you can get free shuttles to Venetian.

Less action on promenade street behind Holiday Inn these days especially when there is police presence (wasn't there when I visited the year before).

Still there are a few and its easy to tell because they scaper when the cops come.

I think there are a couple of "legal" soapies/saunas on that street too.

[Poopbunny]

I stayed in the starworld hotel not far from the holiday inn walkway. After a day of sightseeing I needed some entertainment for the night. I checked the lisboa hotel racetrack and got hot by all these sexy girls, but knowing the service is no good at all, I just looked a bit and left.

So I went to the holiday in area around midnight (just 5 min walk) and saw 2 girls standing behind the holiday inn. One was very cute from China/wuhan 22 years old. She did not speak much english, but I can speak some mandarin (helps really! ). She quoted hkd 1000, but I offered 500 and she agreed at once (ups surprise). We went to my hotel (big hotel, many people, no one will stop you there).

Service was excelent, nice sex, and nice talking. She stayed around 2 hours and seemed to enjoy it. She gave me her mobile number and I called her again next night, same price, same service.

The holiday inn walkway has not many girls now, but sometimes it is still possible to find someone there. On the way to the lisboa from there, I saw 3 eastern europe girls (russians? ), but not my type.

Thomas Jefferson

I think I saw the same 3 Russians. One of them was sort of cute, the other 2, very average. I get better looking Caucasians back home so I passed on those, but I guess it would be a novelty for the visiting Chinese.

I would not knock the Lisboa racetrack too much, I think they represent excellent value when you consider the prices at Rio, 18, etc...

Also the added bonus is that you can view the goods without actually having to enter an establishment/soapy where you may be pressured/feel obliged to go through.

Most of my action is 800 and these are for stunners, about half what I pay back home. Which is not bad as Macau is not a low cost country like Thailand.
Service really depends, I've have pretty good service to excellent ones, nothing I can complain about yet.

[MegaPoint]

i have stayed at the sintra and found it below average. imo holiday inn is a better deal, the rooms are slighty better and i think also a tad cheaper. walking distance to lisboa about 5 min. i prefer holiday inn to sintra because its closer to the sands, and from sands you can get free shuttles to venetian.

less action on promenade street behind holiday inn these days especially when there is police presence (wasn't there when i visited the year before).

still there are a few and its easy to tell because they scaper when the cops come.

i think there are a couple of "legal" soapies/saunas on that street too.

i want to put in a plug for the old lisboa itself. many bros don't realize how comfortable and quiet the rooms are there. i just stayed at star world, 1300 hkd including breakfast, pricey for one night; the lisboa package at shun tak was 840, a much better deal, imho. don't be put off by 'reputation' and the parade downstairs.

the sintra used to be a good deal, but now that there are so many 'big 6' (mainlanders) coming in everyday, the sintra and many other 3-4 star hotels have just become dormitories for them, and they tend to behave like frat boys and girls in ft. lauderdale on spring break.

[Manfest]

--cut--The Sintra used to be a good deal, but now that there are so many 'Big 6' (Mainlanders) coming in everyday, the Sintra and many other 3-4 star hotels have just become dormitories for them, and they tend to behave like frat boys and girls in Ft. Lauderdale on Spring break.

Agreed about the quality of Sintra. There used to be a second class sauna (no actual sauna, pool, food, etc) on the 2nd floor. Anyone know if it is still there? I know things change pretty quickly, but it used to be stocked with some hot Koreans and Vietnamese. I suspect the competition to hire lookers nowadays is pretty intense.

[Tiger 888]

'Big 6' (Mainlanders) Big 6 ??? It is 大陆 not 大六。 But I do agree that they are flooding the place.

[UKJazzMan]

Hi, I'm going to try again to ask for some help, I have read the forum and thanks to the last comment, partially deserved I admit, I now have a better understanding of the forums search facilities, which I have used but I still have some questions. So
1) Am I correct in thinking that you pick up WG's in the Rio and Lisboa hotels and then take them to your room in those hotels or back to your hotel? or do the WG's there have rooms in Rio and Lisboa?
2) I'm staying at the Venetian, is there any action there or do you have to travel to the locations mentioned above or in the Forum
3) I have a list of Sauna's I want to try, I was hoping to walk from my hotel to them but having found a street map, via tripadvisor (cannot find one on google or multimap) I can see I need a cab, so are cab's in easy supply when you leave Sauna's and are they safe enough?
Thanks for all the advise so far, I will of course report on my trip.

Jazzman

[Johnny Rocket]

Gents, thanks for all your help.

I ended up getting a package and stayed at the Emperor for 800/night which was not bad at all.

I wish I could report mongering but I didn't. I was there to gamble and I did very well. Walking home from the Lisboa I saw plenty of WGs but none really captured my fancy.

Question: the Emperor has cameras in the hallways. Any comparable hotels which do not? I hate feeling like I'm being watched all the time. In a casino it's okay, not in my hotel.

[Gyaos]

3) I have a list of Sauna's I want to try, I was hoping to walk from my hotel to them but having found a street map, via tripadvisor (cannot find one on google or multimap) I can see I need a cab, so are cab's in easy supply when you leave Sauna's and are they safe enough?
Thanks for all the advise so far, I will of course report on my trip.
Jazzman

I'll answer the 3rd one. I'm very athletic, so I can walk around Macau like nothing. It's really a small area. However, if you need a cab, they are plentiful and they are safe. They are everywhere. Another trick is hopping on the numerous free hotel shuttle buses at the Macau Ferry terminal. I use the Grand Lisboa one, it gets me right to the heart of the action.

Gyaos.

[Tiger 888]

I'll answer the 3rd one. I'm very athletic, so I can walk around Macau like nothing. It's really a small area. However, if you need a cab, they are plentiful and they are safe. They are everywhere. Another trick is hopping on the numerous free hotel shuttle buses at the Macau Ferry terminal. I use the Grand Lisboa one, it gets me right to the heart of the action.

Gyaos.
To walk from the Venetian to Macau takes a while. I have walked to Taipa once, and only the bridge takes 30 minutes. (You are only allowed to walk over the middle bridge). I suggest to take the shuttle from the Venretian to the Sands. From there almost everything in Macau is walkable in 30-40 minutes (even Gongbei border).
But you may lose your way if not equipped with a map, unless you really know your way.

[MegaPoint]

Big 6 ??? It is 大陆 not 大六。 But I do agree that they are flooding the place.

In the Hong Kong Cantonese idiolect, daih lohk and daih lok are close enough that 'Big 6' is the accepted slang term for 'Mainlander'.

[Pix 13]

Does anyone know if there is a money exchange at HKIA before immigration? I will be taking the turbojet direct to Macau and wish to know if I can exchange money on arrival, or weather to exchange in my home country.

[Poopbunny]

Hi, I'm going to try again to ask for some help, I have read the forum and thanks to the last comment, partially deserved I admit, I now have a better understanding of the forums search facilities, which I have used but I still have some questions. So
1) Am I correct in thinking that you pick up WG's in the Rio and Lisboa hotels and then take them to your room in those hotels or back to your hotel? or do the WG's there have rooms in Rio and Lisboa?
2) I'm staying at the Venetian, is there any action there or do you have to travel to the locations mentioned above or in the Forum
3) I have a list of Sauna's I want to try, I was hoping to walk from my hotel to them but having found a street map, via tripadvisor (cannot find one on google or multimap) I can see I need a cab, so are cab's in easy supply when you leave Sauna's and are they safe enough?
Thanks for all the advise so far, I will of course report on my trip.

Jazzman

Lisboa girls (HKD800) have their own rooms and their price includes the room.

Plenty of action at the Venetian at about 10pm onwards to about 5 or 6am. If you are single and by yourself, you will be approached. I saw some "pretending" to play the slots as they are eyeing their "targets". These girls are only for in-house Venetian staying guest. (HKD1000)

Although more girls at Venetian they are spread thin over a much wider area. A few nice girls at the Venetian but non of the stunners I saw at the Lisboa.

Try this, doesnt list saunas but has some major hotels and might help with the bearing. Requires Internet Explorer
http://www.3dmacau.com/welcome/welcome.htm

[Hat Trick]

try this, doesnt list saunas but has some major hotels and might help with the bearing. requires internet explorer
http://www.3dmacau.com/welcome/welcome.htm

for those who don't have terraexplorer, try macau.com which has a nice map and a bunch of other useful info too.

best shuttles: wynn's, crown, venetian, mgm, grand emperor.

[Hat Trick]

Does anyone know if there is a money exchange at HKIA before immigration? I will be taking the turbojet direct to Macau and wish to know if I can exchange money on arrival, or weather to exchange in my home country.

No currency exchange before Immigration.

Immediately after immigration, Yes.

Turbojet accepts worldwide credit cards, or book online.

Exchange at your home bank best, or use HK ATM, beats airport exchange rate any day.

HT

[Voyager1]

Hello everybody. I just returned from Macau and this is my report.

The Plan

I had a layover in HK on Sat with the flight to the US next morning at 8:05 AM. I got into HKG at noon after a redeye from Bangkok. Plan A was to take the 50lb luggage store it and use the Skypier to get to Macau, monger there till about 3:00 AM and then head back to HKG. So I went over to the information desk before immigration and asked if this was possible. They informed me that the only thing the Skypier allows is transfer to Macau and not a luggage storage and return later system. The only way to do what I wanted was to check out through customs and then use the outside facility to store the luggage. Then use the Airport Express to Hong Kong station and use the Island line MTR to get to the Pier. Then buy the tickets there. As I really did not want to lug the luggage around Macau this is precisely what I did. I had contemplated buying a Sauna 18 package from the local shops there but decided to find out how much a non-package cost would be. The Turbojet sold me a return ticket for Macau returning at 3:00 AM.

Macau

I get into Macau at about 5:00 Pm. I had been there previously on a Tuesday and had no problem getting through customs as there was no real lineups to speak off. But this was a Sat and there were 15 lines with 80 people each in the que! Talk about a vow factor. Five of these lines were just for Hong Kong residences. While on the Turbojet I saw plenty of six packs of Hienken lying around. It was time to party! While standing in the line I started to smell a lot of booze breath. I also saw a couple of American chicks standing behind me. The only reason I mention them is that I saw them again in front of Grand Lisboa. This time they were shedding the outerwear and pulling up the jeans to show off what they had and changed the shoes to 4 inch heals. Could this be WG's making a few bucks on the side? As they were chunky 6's I really did not pay much attention to them.

Anyway after clearing the line I got onto the Lisboa bus and headed to the race track. Yes the race track is nice and alive with the hunting being conducted in packs. Clearly these babes are looking to score high rollers as a guy in a t-shirt carrying a backpack is never approached. However a chinese dude with a wind breaker jacket is good enough to be chased through the mall circuit till he exited. There were some lookers on display that I would do in a heart beat. The wide fish net stocking does something to me. After doing a couple of laps with the chicks I decided to move on to see if I could find Boss Sauna. I had read from the forum that it was 400 yds from Lisboa. I walked around for a while but had no luck. I did managed to get forcefully handed to me about 30 card sized flyers with pictures of woman with only recognizable writing being that of telephone numbers. I think if this place wants to cater to Westerners they need to get more english signs. The atmosphere reminded me of a scene out of the Blade Runner except all of the gaudy neon signs were in chinese.

The Golden Dragon

It was now about 7:00 pm and I needed some food. Trying to get something that I was familiar with on this Island was an experience. I saw plenty of aquariums with live fish in what seemed like a restaurant. This was not the type of fish mongeing I had in mind. I decided to cut the sight seeing short and head to mecca- Sauna 18. I hoped on the Wynn bus back to the Pier and then walked 5 min to the Golden Dragon. Upon arriving I saw a pile of tipsy giddy couples carrying coupons waiting for the elevator. I stood back to see what floor they were headed. It truns out that the elevator stopped at the Table Dance floor 10. One of these days I am going to have to check this out. Off I went to the magic floor 6. After changing in the room I got the explaination that I would owe them $343.00 if I decide to leave after showering. The manager kept asking if I had any coupons and I repeatedly told him no. I got the feeling that it is normal to have these coupons and not having them was odd. He also asked if a taxi driver had been involved for me to be here and again I replied no. Taxi scam? I have to admit that I was a little aprehensive in coming here as I was expecting wall to wall guests. To my surprise the place was not really packed yet. As I entered the pool area for the showers the first babeliscious line was in progress. I saw 4 europeans, plenty of Chinese and healthy dose of Viet girls. All in all there must have been about 60 girls there. Mecca! As I am a big natural T&A fan, this was outstanding. I am partial to young asians chicks with big natural busts. And man there were plenty of them here. Ah yes the physical factors were certainly present, now to look for the rest. I showered and went to the next station where a tiny little thing with beautiful breasts dying to pop out of the the low, low cut dress takes off my towel and dries me off slowly with particular attention to my manhood. What service! A tip was expected and I gave her $20.00.

After getting my robe and shorts I went into the lounge area to get food. I popped a 50mg vitamin V and decided to get a foot massage while waiting for it to kick in. It cost me $120.00 for a 25 min massage, a bit steep in my opinion. Here I met up with fellow mongerer Tony from Sicly and started to compare notes. He elightened me to the tag system. It seems that the red tags are chinese and the green are viet with the balance being european. The models are dressed in long gowns. His experience for the earlier session was that of what could be best described as "slilent" sex. He could not speak a word of Cantonese and she could not speak a word of english. I could not help but laugh. Would this be my fate as well?

The wet dream

At about 1:30 am I finally decide it is time. The line up was good and a lot of the traffic had subsided. I decide to check out the european section. The russian chicks did not want to make any eye contact and had a very "dont you dare choose me" look. As a matter of fact one of them covered her number with her hand as I approached her in the line up. WTF! why are you in the lineup woman? Tony and I both agreed these were red flags. I just moved on when number 686 caught my eye. I picked her and moved to my room. Then she shows up about 15 min later. To say that she was hot would be an under statement. I think smoking would be the better word. A lot of girls look hot because of the high heels. This girl was gorgeous even without them. Oh what a tight 20 yr bod! Off to the shower and my first ever BBBJ in the shower. Vitamin V was doing its job and I was trying not loose my head. Barely surviving the shower we went for the Viet massage on the bed. To have a girl like this give a sensous massage using her oral skill has to be the definition of heaven. Then she turns me over and gives me a cold and hot water BBBJ . Oh man! I was determined to have her and told her to slow down. She asked me if I was okay. " Holly Buddha!" I replied. Then on with the cover and off to the cowboy ride and I just lost it. The hour had turned into more off a 35min session. So we cuddled and talked a bit. I had to know more about my wet dream. I asked her if she had ever been to Hong Kong. She replied that her passport was with the company and could not leave Macau.I just started to wonder if this was part of the organised trades one hears about. Man to have such an angel in that kind of a predicament would be the defination of tragedy. I tried to pry more information but she clamped up quickly. That got me wondering even more.

The mess

It was about 2:50am and I decided to make a run for the 3:00 am ferry. While I checked out I tried to pay a tip on my bill to number 686 but was discouraged by the staff. My bill including the buffet, the foot massage and the babe was $1700 HKD. This means there is indeed a saving of about $500.00 when buying the travel agent pacakge if you factor in the boat ride.

I arrived at the pier at 3:10 and found out that the ferry had left. Furthermore the ticket I had was non-transferrable and useless. It gets better. The next ferry is 4:00 am and it is full. The only one that has any room is 7:00 am which gets into Hong Kong at 8:00 am. Holly F! My flight is 8:00 am. I am screwed. I begged and pleaded with the solo act chinese gestapo Turbojet trainee agent to let me have a ticket. After hearing my sob story he said he would try to get me on the 5:30 am and to come back then. What a F'n mess!! Visions of thousand dollar loses are running through my head. I looked into the $1500.00 Heli ride but that was not available until 8:00 am! This island only has one real connection and if that is not available you really are screwed. Apparently an enterprising couple overheard my conversation with the agent and approached me with one of there ticket for the 4:00 am ride. They were willing to part with it for $400.00. I thought about haggaling but decided I was too despearate. I took it and left.

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[Poopbunny]

For those who don't have terraExplorer, try Macau.com which has a nice map and a bunch of other useful info too.

Best shuttles: Wynn's, Crown, Venetian, MGM, Grand Emperor.

Taipa and Coloane are now fused with the Cotai Strip.
Last year when I used Wotif.com, Coloane and Taipa were still listed as separate islands for hotel bookings

For the sentimental amongst us, an older map before the Cotai strip.
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/asia/mo.htm

Also note the extensive land reclaimed on the Zhuhai side.

[Poopbunny]

Thanks for your report ABC2.

Like you, I also get handed out a lot of these flyers when in Macau, but with no English written on them, they are ignored.

I felt your pain. I also have a close call of my own to report.

I had a 6pm flight and make it to the Macau ferry terminal to catch a 3pm Turbojet sailing to HK international airport direct. My experience with the ferry is that you can usually hop on the next ferry within 15 mins of arriving, but this is not so for the HK Airport destination. 30 mins is required. I get there before 2:30pm but at the ticket office, some Dutch or German guy in front waste a lot of time is trying to get his HK$6 discount. This dooms me and 2 other pax behind me to miss the 3pm sailing. We then hop on the 3:15pm to Hong Kong. All I need is to do is to get to the Airport Express check-in counters at IFC Center next to HK Shun Tak Ferry building and I am safe. There, you can check-in your bags and get a Boarding Pass for just about any flight out of Hong Kong International. By the time, I clear immigration, catch a cab, I reach IFC 30mins after the ferry docks at 4:15pm. The check-in for my 10+ hour flight has closed. I have to check-in directly at the airport. One staff at a different check-in desk tells me I can still make it if I hop on the 5pm train now. In a hurry I give him only my surname and my carrier, he will call check-in at Hong Kong International to expect me. When I get to HKIA, my flight is no longer displayed on the check-in screens. I don't even know which aisle I need to go to. I thought, I am truly fucked now. Finally, I locate the check-in aisle, where my boarding pass and luggage tags have already been printed and awaits me. The check-in guy at IFC really came through for me and I can't thank him enough.

You were fortunate a couple was willing to part with their ticket for only $400. Considering that the ticket was $176 (night service rate) one way per person and they had to buy 2 tickets to travel together. IMO it is a very small premium to pay.

[UKJazzMan]

lisboa girls (hkd800) have their own rooms and their price includes the room.

plenty of action at the venetian at about 10pm onwards to about 5 or 6am. if you are single and by yourself, you will be approached. i saw some "pretending" to play the slots as they are eyeing their "targets". these girls are only for in-house venetian staying guest. (hkd1000)

although more girls at venetian they are spread thin over a much wider area. a few nice girls at the venetian but non of the stunners i saw at the lisboa.

try this, doesnt list saunas but has some major hotels and might help with the bearing. requires internet explorer
http://www.3dmacau.com/welcome/welcome.htm

really appreciate you help, i don't have long, i'm with work mates so need to know what i'm doing as much as possible to get the most out of the spare time i can engineer! really helpful, will report back in a month after the trip

[Voyager1]

thanks for your report abc2.

like you, i also get handed out a lot of these flyers when in macau, but with no english written on them, they are ignored.

i felt your pain. i also have a close call of my own to report.

i had a 6pm flight and make it to the macau ferry terminal to catch a 3pm turbojet sailing to hk international airport direct. my experience with the ferry is that you can usually hop on the next ferry within 15 mins of arriving, but this is not so for the hk airport destination. 30 mins is required. i get there before 2:30pm but at the ticket office, some dutch or german guy in front waste a lot of time is trying to get his hk$6 discount. this dooms me and 2 other pax behind me to miss the 3pm sailing. we then hop on the 3:15pm to hong kong. all i need is to do is to get to the airport express check-in counters at ifc center next to hk shun tak ferry building and i am safe. there, you can check-in your bags and get a boarding pass for just about any flight out of hong kong international. by the time, i clear immigration, catch a cab, i reach ifc 30mins after the ferry docks at 4:15pm. the check-in for my 10+ hour flight has closed. i have to check-in directly at the airport. one staff at a different check-in desk tells me i can still make it if i hop on the 5pm train now. in a hurry i give him only my surname and my carrier, he will call check-in at hong kong international to expect me. when i get to hkia, my flight is no longer displayed on the check-in screens. i don't even know which aisle i need to go to. i thought, i am truly fucked now. finally, i locate the check-in aisle, where my boarding pass and luggage tags have already been printed and awaits me. the check-in guy at ifc really came through for me and i can't thank him enough.

you were fortunate a couple was willing to part with their ticket for only $400. considering that the ticket was $176 (night service rate) one way per person and they had to buy 2 tickets to travel together. imo it is a very small premium to pay.brother you have no idea how religous i became when that elderly couple stepped up with the ticket. the contrast from being in nervana to being in hell in a matter of minutes was an experience i do not think i will ever forget.

this experience really was an eye opener. i think the lesson here is that anyone who thinks a 24 hour visit to macau needs to think about it twice, especially on the weekends. ride to the island seems to be no problem but the ride back is quite questionable. i have to wonder why such a highly visited island only has one barely capable ferry system. if it was not for the babe factor i really would not consider going back again.

[MegaPoint]

I have to wonder why such a highly visited island only has one barely capable ferry system. If it was not for the babe factor I really would not consider going back again.

Until four years ago, all the gambling franchises as well as the ferry franchises were held it the sweaty grip of an octogenarian robber baron with four wives named Stanley Ho. Then, the Macau government opened up the casinos to the Americans...but the ferry service remains Stanley's one trump card.

He has fought very strongly against the Cotai ferry service, which was actually suspended by a court in Macau for some weeks after it started (it's back on service now.) As his gambling empire crumbles, you can expect more and more problems with the ferry services between HK and Macau.

MegaPoint

[Poopbunny]

Until four years ago, all the gambling franchises as well as the ferry franchises were held it the sweaty grip of an octogenarian robber baron with four wives named Stanley Ho. Then, the Macau government opened up the casinos to the Americans...but the ferry service remains Stanley's one trump card.

He has fought very strongly against the Cotai ferry service, which was actually suspended by a court in Macau for some weeks after it started (it's back on service now.) As his gambling empire crumbles, you can expect more and more problems with the ferry services between HK and Macau.

MegaPoint

Just did a wikipedia search and see that Stanley Ho & Bruce Lee are cousins.

He still has significant monopoly in Macau Island gambling but that does not extend to Taipa, Coloane and the Cotai strip which he lost to the Americans. From my obeservations, P4P action rules in Macau over the neighbouring island and I wonder if he has special henchmen that does the handpicking of these SW. Maybe to complement his interest in Macau, after all he does own the Lisboa.

Note to self:
Next time buy return ticket in advance. Buy another return ticket for the next sailing. (That is if I have a flight to catch).

[MegaPoint]

note to self:
next time buy return ticket in advance. buy another return ticket for the next sailing. (that is if i have a flight to catch).

just remember to read the fine print on the ferry tickets: and it's all in chinese. you can use the ticket for the sailing indicated, or you can get into line for standby if you want to go back earlier. but the ticket is not valid for any sailing *later* than the one you buy it for, and there is no refund/no return. if you miss the boat, you're fecked, and have to buy a new ticket, if you can get one.

mega

[Voyager1]

just did a wikipedia search and see that stanley ho & bruce lee are cousins.

he still has significant monopoly in macau island gambling but that does not extend to taipa, coloane and the cotai strip which he lost to the americans. from my obeservations, p4p action rules in macau over the neighbouring island and i wonder if he has special henchmen that does the handpicking of these sw. maybe to complement his interest in macau, after all he does own the lisboa.

note to self:
next time buy return ticket in advance. buy another return ticket for the next sailing. (that is if i have a flight to catch).i do believe the credit card receipt from the golden dragon said something to the effect "ho investments". i will have to dig it up to confirm it. having said that if the babes at the gd are a sample of mr. ho's work than i am would have to support him. with all due respect to the americans, what exactly are there contribution to the p4p scene? another question that comes to mind is if a coupon was purchased in hk for sauna18 , with mr. ho having so much influence on the ferry, would the return ticket from the club be higher priority then the one purchased at the terminal? more field study is definitely needed here. of course it would have to be done when the "must get off the island or miss flight" gun is not being held to the head.

[Tiger 888]

Just remember to read the fine print on the ferry tickets: and it's all in Chinese. You can use the ticket for the sailing indicated, or you can get into line for standby if you want to go back earlier. But the ticket is NOT valid for any sailing *later* than the one you buy it for, and there is no refund/no return. If you miss the boat, you're fecked, and have to buy a new ticket, if you can get one.

Mega
Everybody plays this standby game at busy hours.

So if the ferries are full, I usually buy the first available ticket on turbojet because they run more frequently than first ferry.
Then I take the standby queue not for the first available sailing, because everybody stands there, but for the next one. The ones in the queue for the first sailing (if they don't make it) are then behind me.
You may see 100 people in the queue in front and still get onto to the boat, because another 100 from your boat have taken an earlier one.
Of course there is no 100% chance and flights to catch are a problem that I wouldn't want to face. Since I have a place to stay in HK and Macau, I go a day earlier.

The day that Pete Sampras played Roger Federer the tickets for that day untol 4 pm (going to Macau) were completely sold out a day before.

[BruceTea]

I think Stanley Ho gives the Macau gov't a lot of money just to stay away from his underground activities. The gov't in turn gives the Macau citizens money (recently they did) and lots of tourists for businesses.

It's a win win situation and I don't see how that's bad.

It's immoral and underhand, but what in business isn't?

[Gyaos]

The mess...It was about 2:50am and I decided to make a run for the 3:00 am ferry. While I checked out I tried to pay a tip on my bill to number 686 but was discouraged by the staff. My bill including the buffet, the foot massage and the babe was $1700 HKD.

Yeah, first thing. Catching a ferry 10 minutes before leaving a sauna is not a good idea. Saunas are there for you to relax in. Just sit back and wait for the sun to come up if it's that late. Hell, get a Shanghai Massage with an HJ too. Sleep there if you want. If you got a package deal (i.e. coupon) in Hong Kong, the return ticket is included, so you could have gone to the terminal in Macau, and picked up the ticket to the next available ferry assigned and just go on stand by for the one before. No need to plead with other people. I'd sell you my ticket for 400 MPS or HKD too. Missing your ferry by the time of the ticket listed is ridiculous. I've never seen the amount of ease, anywhere ever, than inside Macau's Ferry Terminal to get on an earlier boat.

Additionally, tipping the girl when leaving is not ideal either. You can do that as an add on to the bill by having the girl call it in. But again, guys come on, stop tipping in Asia when not asked for a tip. The idea that "I want them to feel good with a tip" isn't what they want. Maybe to the slaves in America, but this "ain't" America. Tip before you fuck if you have the guts, that's okay.

Gyaos.

[Njaff2005]

Guys, I've RTFF and saw mention of a few things that hopefully you can clarify. I've read of guys using credit cards. How safe is it to use credit cards in Macau? I'm not concerned about who shows up as the transaction company. I'm more interested in whether I'm going to see purchases racked up on my account. I've read of credit cards being used in the sauna itself. How about at the HK ferry terminal where packages are bought?

Finally, I've read of guys tipping and others asking those guys not to tip as it's bad form. For those of you that tipped, how are you carrying your cash around? Do you guys ever leave your wallet in the locker? I can't imagine walking around and going into the sauna with my wallet, especially with the little clothing or towel being worn.

Thanks for any clarification you can provide.

[Lordpap]

Hey,

Was in Macau for the first time in April 2008. Was staying at the Venetian. Took the shuttle to Sands Macau and a Taxi to Darling 1. Had no coupons or vouchers, the person outside guided me to the lifts and I walk in to D1. Had me sit down and was pointed the CHinese, Thai, Vietnemese and Thai. Asked for someone who could speak some English. Was told the number of a Vietnemese but I declined. Told another one and I agreed. Asked to pay ~1400 and off to the room.

Room was clean with a fresh red sheet. A small TV had porn playing on it. Got the wash and nipple licking and some bbbj in the large tub. Then off to the bed with ice in her mouth ...licking nipples and some bbbj and then cbj. Did not allow DFK but DATY was permissible. Some Missionnary followed by cowgirl. Another washing and.....

Overall was ok. She could barely speak English so was a let down for me.

[Naxnax]

Guys, I've RTFF and saw mention of a few things that hopefully you can clarify. I've read of guys using credit cards. How safe is it to use credit cards in Macau? I'm not concerned about who shows up as the transaction company. I'm more interested in whether I'm going to see purchases racked up on my account. I've read of credit cards being used in the sauna itself. How about at the HK ferry terminal where packages are bought?I lived in HK for many years. During that time my credit card details were stolen (might be in a restaurent where I paid the bill) and a fake card was fabricated and used for US$5000 on a single day. Card was still with me. Bank took the responsibility. I used my cards in many places including saunas in Macau and HK ferry terminal. No problem so far. So you never know what can happen.

[Sparky Boy]

i've used credit card in saunas and at the package places in shun tak

i've used credit card about 20 times in total at these places, no problems whatsoever, this is my experience.

[Poopbunny]

Day 1

I check in at Holiday Inn with a friend who accompanies me for one night. He is not a monger but I show him the Lisboa racetrack and he is stunned. I then catch a sight of an off the scale hottie I did more than a year ago. I am surprised she is still around and add her on my “to do” list. We need to eat first but when I return she is gone and I never saw her again for the rest of my trip. We check out saunas at Rio but find out that it is about double the price. The street behind the Inn is empty and I see a few cops around, later I see a couple of streetwalkers but nothing fantastic. So I head back to Lisboa pick another hottie. Up we go, this time the room is much larger, only CBJ but the rest of the service was OK, at least she was a good screamer, tight and large firm real breast. The price is 800, but it is in HKD not MOP, I only have MOP thinking that is was worth more but it seemed to be the other way around when I was there. She demands 900 MOP so I give it to her and find out later she probably got 90 too much. I should have changed it to HKD before giving it to her.

Day 2

I head back at the Lisboa racetrack to find the stunner I had last year but she is not there, so I pick another young hottie. This one seems to like me and gives me GFE, kissing in the mouth and BBBJ. So after dinner I return for her. She is thrilled I pick her again. I ask about an all nighter, at this stage with my non-existent Chinese and her non-existent English, communication is getting nowhere, so I ring a friend in HK who then speaks to her on my mobile and translates for me, it was about 2000 – 3000 after 2am. A tad too much for me as there are lots more to be had in Thailand where I was heading the next day. She gives me her mobile number and ask me to call.

The next day I am queuing up at the gate to board my flight and behold, there she was, standing next to me. She is on the same flight as me, unbelievable, what are the chances of this. She is really pleased to see me. I get free non-sex GFE for the rest of the flight. We hold hands, hug, she rest on my shoulder and sleeps on my lap. Everyone on the flight thinks she’s my girlfriend. She shows me pictures of her family and her sister is an absolute stunner. We part in Bangkok (see my Pattaya posts for a continuation of my adventures) where she has another connecting flight. She ask me to call her, although with our lack of communication I don’t know what I could say, I give her my business card. Now thinking back, in hindsight, this could have been my perfect opportunity to join the “mile high” club.

I think she sends me a text but my phone cannot process it.

Day 3

I return to Macau after a couple of weeks and head to the Lisboa racetrack to look for her but she is no where to be found. I go play the slots and return later, she is still not there. Finally, this absolute stunner catches me eyeing her. She approaches me, I pull out the only chinese line I know “Bu2 Dai4 Tao4 Kou3 Jiao1” (BBBJ). She says no. I walk. I decide to wait a little longer for my girl from Day 2. The stunner sees me loitering and approaches me again. She is such a stunner and looks better than many of the Chinese models and actresses I have seen. I can see through her sexy g-string panty line which I find a real turn on, most Chinese girls don’t wear g-strings. I can’t get her to budge on the bbbj, but I finally give in because her face was so amazing. Same HKD800 price. She tells me that no one does BBBJ at Lisboa, I guess I was lucky previously. Overall, it was a good session. I ask her about my girl from Day 2 and she tells me she knows her, but also tells me that she is currently not in Macau but apparently still back home.

This time I am staying at the Venetian and I see a few SW around the casino area, all you need to do is to look at them, if they catch you looking they will come to you. Standard price is HKD1000. There are a few nice girls but none of the stunners of Lisboa. I start playing the slots. I am actually winning. I am HKD500 ahead (not much, but better than losing). At about 4am, I decide to call it a night and head back to my room. On my way I spot a hottie with a sophisticate look, slim and cute (but still not a Lisboa stunner). I pull out my Chinese bbbj line, initially she did not understand (I probably did not say it right), then she finally understands and she says no, I walk. Then she relents and agrees. We go up and I get my bbbj fix and sex was pretty good as she was damn tight. I ask her about all night and she quotes HKD3000. I decide that was enough sex for me to spend that much anyway. Before she leaves she says I’m a good guy (took me a while to decipher that).

Next day I head back home and nearly miss my plane, see previous post.

[AsiaTraveler2]

Hello everybody. I just returned from Macau and this is my report.

The Plan

I had a layover in HK on Sat with the flight to the US next morning at 8:05 AM. I got into HKG at noon after a redeye from Bangkok. Plan A was to take the 50lb luggage store it and use the Skypier to get to Macau, monger there till about 3:00 AM and then head back to HKG. So I went over to the information desk before immigration and asked if this was possible. <cut>

Just curious. Is there any reason you did not fly directly into Macau instead of HKG? I usually fly into HKG, since I spend a few days there and a few days in Macau. With your tight schedule, a direct flight in and out of Macau would seem to make more sense.

I do have a one day stop in Macau planned later this summer, so I am curious if you saw any issues with flights in/out of Macau.

AT2

[Henio]

Just curious. Is there any reason you did not fly directly into Macau instead of HKG? I usually fly into HKG, since I spend a few days there and a few days in Macau. With your tight schedule, a direct flight in and out of Macau would seem to make more sense.

I do have a one day stop in Macau planned later this summer, so I am curious if you saw any issues with flights in/out of Macau.

AT2There are no long haul flights landing at Macau airport. It is a relatively small regional airport (at least compared to HK). No direct flights to neither US or Europe.

[AsiaTraveler2]

There are no long haul flights landing at Macau airport. It is a relatively small regional airport (at least compared to HK). No direct flights to neither US or Europe.

True, but the guy came in from BKK, and you can route the flight out through another Asia City. Appreciate the input. I'm coming through BKK and going back out through another Asian hot spot, so it looks like it works for me. I do understand it may not work in all situations.

Thanks,
AT2

[Nedword]

I've read of guys using credit cards. How safe is it to use credit cards in Macau?

I used my credit card at the Fortuna Hotel only as a deposit on my room. It ended up being cloned or whatever and taken on a shopping spree over in Hong Kong. I didn't have to pay the bill but it was kind of annoying as I was trying to use the card when I found out it was suspended.

[Fast Eddie 48]

True, but the guy came in from BKK, and you can route the flight out through another Asia City. Appreciate the input. I'm coming through BKK and going back out through another Asian hot spot, so it looks like it works for me. I do understand it may not work in all situations.

Thanks,

AT2AT2,

Air Asia have 2 flight a day from BKK to Mcau they can only handle small plane from asia country because of the short runway and there are no room for grow unless more landfill to the island.

Fast eddie 48

[Beijing Lover]

AT2,

Air Asia have 2 flight a day from BKK to Mcau they can only handle small plane from asia country because of the short runway and there are no room for grow unless more landfill to the island.

Fast eddie 48

Actually Air Asia runs 4 daily flights from BKK to MFN.
Air Macau runs another 2 daily flights linking both cities.
And soon Bangkok Airways will also serve this route.
So there are plenty of flights to choose from.
Actually Macau's International Airport can handle any kind of plane and it is quite common to see large aircraft such as B747, McDonnell Douglas DC-10, Airbus A330, Boeing 767 and even Antonov An-124-100 Ruslan parked there.

Beijing Lover

[El Greco]

Actually Air Asia runs 4 daily flights from BKK to MFN.
Air Macau runs another 2 daily flights linking both cities.
And soon Bangkok Airways will also serve this route.
So there are plenty of flights to choose from.
Actually Macau's International Airport can handle any kind of plane and it is quite common to see large aircraft such as B747, McDonnell Douglas DC-10, Airbus A330, Boeing 767 and even Antonov An-124-100 Ruslan parked there.

Beijing Lover

AirAsia had a sale recently 399 Baht ++ from BKK to Macau or Senzhen tickets good through Jan 2009 if I remember correctly. They are only accepting 15 kg checked in luggage. Anything more is extra and the food I guess.

It is MFM not MFN

El Greco

[AsiaTraveler2]

Guys,

As always, appreciate all the feedback. I really had to laugh when I visited the Air Asia website. Are they selling airfare or something else? ;)

AT2

[UKJazzMan]

Visited the Venetian, and per the reports below, there is action to be had and it is fairly obvious. Ranging from 6 to 9+. Basically walk into the casino and look at the girls either walking round or playing slots, their eyes will let you know immediately whether they are p4p or not, though little or no English was spoken, something like sheshe was repeated to me. I wandered round at 10pm and there was plenty available but did not partake, instead I went to a club, there were lots of Asia girls (and ladyboys) available and approaching you if you looked long enough at them, which means slightly longer than a glance. They spoke English and it looked to me like they were very game but in the company I had it was not an option. Back at the Venetian I walked round again it was about 3.30am, there was not as much choice as earlier but enough for me to score a 9. I don't speak the language so the mobile was handy for numbers, we agreed on HKD1000 or US$120. Quick shower then down to business, which was frankly not very good, no GFE, cowgirl, mish all over in about an hour. Probably my fault being a little naive and given the language barrier, will try a Sauna next and report. I did get a pic but she wanted it deleted, I'm kicking myself now for that.

[Graybeard]

I will be in Macau on Thursday and was looking for a wingman. Mongering is more fun when you can enjoy it with a pal. I've only hit Sauna 18 and was hoping that somebody might be able to show me some more Macau options. Drop me a PM if you're up for a little Thursday mongering.

[Sparky Boy]

Visited the Venetian, and per the reports below, there is action to be had and it is fairly obvious. Ranging from 6 to 9+. Basically walk into the casino and look at the girls either walking round or playing slots, their eyes will let you know immediately whether they are p4p or not, though little or no English was spoken, something like sheshe was repeated to me. I wandered round at 10pm and there was plenty available but did not partake, instead I went to a club, there were lots of Asia girls (and ladyboys) available and approaching you if you looked long enough at them, which means slightly longer than a glance. They spoke English and it looked to me like they were very game but in the company I had it was not an option. Back at the Venetian I walked round again it was about 3.30am, there was not as much choice as earlier but enough for me to score a 9. I don't speak the language so the mobile was handy for numbers, we agreed on HKD1000 or US$120. Quick shower then down to business, which was frankly not very good, no GFE, cowgirl, mish all over in about an hour. Probably my fault being a little naive and given the language barrier, will try a Sauna next and report. I did get a pic but she wanted it deleted, I'm kicking myself now for that.

What club did u go to ukjazzman?

[UKJazzMan]

What club did u go to ukjazzman?
D2 ask a taxi driver to take you, it was in Macau on the second floor of a store from what I could make out. Some said it was darlings 2 but I'm not sure that is true the sign above the place was simply D2.

Went to the Monkey bar at Grand Waldorf hotel opposite Venetian tonight, rubbish, then went down stairs to a KTV bar, much much better, all spoke english, KTV loads of laughs and girls back to the room for free, gfe, but ymdf as always. Hope you enjoy, we did.

Out of interest walked through Venetian Casino at 4am lots of p4p about, playing or rather not playing slots, no English spoken at all, asking MOP1K or about $120, I suspect the service will be naff unless you speak the lingo.

[Manfest]

D2 ask a taxi driver to take you, it was in Macau on the second floor of a store from what I could make out. Some said it was darlings 2 but I'm not sure that is true the sign above the place was simply D2.

Maybe you meant DD, which is a club/bar. Darling 2 is a fishbowl sauna, but does have a storefront with service rooms upstairs. This is not a club (dancing or drinking).

[UKJazzMan]

Maybe you meant DD, which is a club/bar. Darling 2 is a fishbowl sauna, but does have a storefront with service rooms upstairs. This is not a club (dancing or drinking).

Can confirm the location is in the AIA Tower, opposite the Grand Emperor Casino, in downtown Macau. To get there; take the lift on the right, behind Starbucks up to the 2nd floor and follow the pumping sounds opposite, it is a locals nightclub good fun

[Tiger 888]

Maybe you meant DD, which is a club/bar. Darling 2 is a fishbowl sauna, but does have a storefront with service rooms upstairs. This is not a club (dancing or drinking).
The name of DD has changed to D2 when they moved. It is not Darling 2, just D2. UKjazzman's description in AIA tower is correct.

[StraightFlush]

Was in HK recently on biz and went to Macau for just one-night. Staying at the Venetian. No luck at the tables there. For the evening events.

Venetian. Lots of "walkers" all over the place. Any of the walkways. Just catch their eye and the WG's will catch yours back. Pricing seems to be $1000 or more starting. Didn't negotiate further though wanted to see some of the sights outside.

Wynn. Dinner at the their Italian restaurant. Great food and excellent service. Recommended if you can expense it. Walked the casino, but didn't see any obvious action.

Lisboa. Again great scenery. Lots of long legs; short skirts; About 10pm and they don't seem too interested; don't catch your eye, etc. Especially for westerners. Had a few beers here just to cool my heels and enjoy the scene.

DD2. About midnight. Obviously way too early. Dead. Only the bar dancers. Had a couple Thai gals entertain us. Just buy them drinks, they spoke english and played about, danced, happy times. But drinks aren't cheap (not sure of their commish). Started getting busy about 2am. Tried to get the dancing girls back to the hotel. Although they seemed interested and willing, excuse was they had to work until last bar dance at 6:00am. Could I wait. Sorry. Anyone had any experience with the bar dancers?

Streets. Did a bit of street strolling. Lots of action outside to Lisboa. 3-4 Russians on the median and next corner 5-6 Chinese gals. All told no lookers though. Also found many SW's near intersection by the Wynn and the Galaxy (be careful crossing the street). Now about 230am and many gals looking for customers and they're definitely not afraid to approach any and all. These gals seemed to be better quality (or maybe just getting tired of walking). Anyways decided that best quality (looks department) were back at the racetrack.

Back to Lisboa. Now 3am and the girls all anxious to close the deal. Guess they're more discreet earlier or just more picky. Now getting lots of eye contact and girl contact. Arm grabbing, attempts to talk but no english at all. Picked a 9. Long jet black hair, longest legs with tiny a**. Tall, but still a spinner in my book. Couldn't resist any longer. Upstairs ($1000) and had a pretty good run with her. She didn't seem in a hurry to get rid of me. Not sure whether she was done for the night or not. Tried to negotiate another round, but language barrier was too much and still had money left to gamble away before leaving about noon.

My regret (besides no chips left at the end) was that my stay was less than 24 hours. (Always next time). Not sure why I paid for the hotel. Hardly slept there at all.

[Poopbunny]

though little or no English was spoken, something like sheshe was repeated to me.

Was it "Shur Maah"?

When I was there about a year ago, all the SW kept repeating that to me. I thought it meant "upstairs" or "pick me please". Then when I was there on my last trip I rang a friend living in HK who spoke mandarin. I asked for a translation and it simply meant = "Yes ?"

The only phrase I bothered to learn was
bu2 dai4 tao4 kou3 jiao1 = BBBJ

[Good N Plenty]

Looking for stunners at the sauna's.

PM me

[Tiger 888]

was it "shur maah"?

when i was there about a year ago, all the sw kept repeating that to me. i thought it meant "upstairs" or "pick me please". then when i was there on my last trip i rang a friend living in hk who spoke mandarin. i asked for a translation and it simply meant = "yes ?"

the only phrase i bothered to learn was
bu2 dai4 tao4 kou3 jiao1 = bbbjno, it is qu4 ma? - shall we go?

[SE Asia Joe]

was it "shur maah"?

when i was there about a year ago, all the sw kept repeating that to me. i thought it meant "upstairs" or "pick me please". then when i was there on my last trip i rang a friend living in hk who spoke mandarin. i asked for a translation and it simply meant = "yes ?"

the only phrase i bothered to learn was
bu2 dai4 tao4 kou3 jiao1 = bbbj
ok, my putonghua is crap - but to me
bu2 dai4 tao4 kou3 jiao1
means "without condom orgasm". not as you say - bbbj???
anybody.....?
seaj

[Global Citizen]

bu2 dai4 tao4 kou3 jiao1
means "without condom orgasm". NOT as you say - BBBJ???
Anybody.....?
SEAJ

bu2 dai4 tao4 kou3 jiao1 means BBBJ

Bu2 = no or not
dai4 = carry or wear
tao4 = cover
kou3 jiao1 = BJ

GC

[AsiaTraveler2]

Wynn. Dinner at the their Italian restaurant. Great food and excellent service. Recommended if you can expense it. Walked the casino, but didn't see any obvious action.

Lisboa. Again great scenery. Lots of long legs; short skirts; About 10pm and they don't seem too interested; don't catch your eye, etc. Especially for westerners. Had a few beers here just to cool my heels and enjoy the scene.

Back to Lisboa. Now 3am and the girls all anxious to close the deal. Guess they're more discreet earlier or just more picky. Now getting lots of eye contact and girl contact. Arm grabbing, attempts to talk but no english at all. Picked a 9. Long jet black hair, longest legs with tiny a**. Tall, but still a spinner in my book. Couldn't resist any longer. Upstairs ($1000) and had a pretty good run with her. She didn't seem in a hurry to get rid of me. Not sure whether she was done for the night or not. Tried to negotiate another round, but language barrier was too much and still had money left to gamble away before leaving about noon.

My regret (besides no chips left at the end) was that my stay was less than 24 hours. (Always next time). Not sure why I paid for the hotel. Hardly slept there at all.

I stayed at the Wynn and the Lisboa and had a chance to compare the two in my hop in and out of Macau on two close together dates. At US$300, the Wynn was very nice, but not what I would call great value. Especially, as Straight Flush mentioned, I hardly spent any time in the room and spent most of my night at 18 Sauna. I did find the dealers at the Wynn Macau, surprisingly fun however, compared to my first experiences years back gambling Macau style. A pleasant surprise.

The Lisboa is always an interesting stay, since it's close to the other Casinos, has the race track, is only a little over US$100 and has more quirky charm to it. The shower alone, is very entertaining. I can stay at the Wynn in Las Vegas and I can't find a Lisboa in the States, so the Lisboa offered a bit more fun for me during my recent visits.

The last time I visited the race track at 2am, the girls were all gone. Is the 3am activity still common? Once all of the shops and coffee shop shut down, it was a dark ghost town. That lead me to my Lisboa Sauna experience. There were some definite lookers at the race track early in the evening, just around 7pm. I can't figure out why they would shun Westerners as recently reported. The girls are not getting much action from what I could tell. They were all over me, when I walked through. I made sure my wallet was in the front pocket with my hand over it, they were so aggressive.

Peace,
AT2

[The Frenchman]

Hi All,

In my sequence of reports I have covered some visits to germany, indo, and now macau.

To follow hk, China, singapore, and Thailand.

I have been several times with HK Chinese freind Andrew to Macau.

Eaten in the wynn cafe (good, fast and cheap) and strolled the streets.

Most of thetime we just buy the all in ticket at the HK ferry terminal for the ferry and delux massage at darlings.

To get to darling is a 5 min walk from the ferry terminal along the causeway, on the left you will see the neon light with the name and descend the stairs to street level, enter and take the lift to the 3rd floor.

On entry to the "showroom" you will be presented to wall to wall girls (they even have binoculars to see them up closer).

To the left thais, malay, viet, China, and on an island to the right a bunch of uzbeck, ukraine, and russians.

I ususally go for the thai.

The girls are there for 6 months between holidays / breaks and work 6 days a week The speciality of the house is the hot and cold BJ which can wake up the dead how it works.

2 cups of water.

One almost scalding.

One ice cold.

Start to blow you with the hot one on her mouth, getting you 1/2 way up then switch to the cold and then you are rock hard.

Of course all this is preceded by a entire body wash so every nook and cranny is spotless.

The sex is usually rather mechanical as after all you are but one in a long line of customers and they are inoculated against orgasms.

It is however good enough to get you finished, if you are not too slow you can go for a second round.

Michelin stars 2 to 2 1/2 depending on the girl, would be 3 if more gfe.

After this is over you can go to the pawnbroker street to get a cheap rolex (about 20 shops selling only top end watches lost in gambling).

Have fun and play safe.

The frenchman.

Next report.

Hk

[Mianbao]

I am heading to Macau for a quick stopover in a couple of days and after browsing the forum have a couple of questions:

1. I presume the package deals that you can get at the ferry pier are not available at HKIA? I am planning to head to Macau from HKIA directly after landing there.

2. I am planning to get some sleep in 18 Sauna rather than booking a hotel, however would like to have a look around (perhaps catch a show, as per next question) in between sessions. However I'll have some small luggage including laptop - anyone know if it is possible and safe to leave belongings in a locker there while heading out for a while? Lugging it around isn't really an option.

3. Any other interesting shows besides Playmates club in the Guia hotel or tokyo Nights show in Grand Lisboa? And can anyone confirm what show times are? Plus is the Tokyo Nights show in Grand Lisboa easy to spot or discrete?

Any advice greatly appreciated and I will of course be posting afterwards.

[AsiaTraveler2]

I am heading to Macau for a quick stopover in a couple of days and after browsing the forum have a couple of questions:

1. I presume the package deals that you can get at the ferry pier are not available at HKIA? I am planning to head to Macau from HKIA directly after landing there.

2. I am planning to get some sleep in 18 Sauna rather than booking a hotel, however would like to have a look around (perhaps catch a show, as per next question) in between sessions. However I'll have some small luggage including laptop - anyone know if it is possible and safe to leave belongings in a locker there while heading out for a while? Lugging it around isn't really an option.

3. Any other interesting shows besides Playmates club in the Guia hotel or tokyo Nights show in Grand Lisboa? And can anyone confirm what show times are? Plus is the Tokyo Nights show in Grand Lisboa easy to spot or discrete?

Any advice greatly appreciated and I will of course be posting afterwards.

The lockers were fairly small. Not sure if they have larger lockers available or some other arrangements. The Macau pier has some large lockers, but not sure how safe they are. Possibly store the luggage there and the laptop in the sauna locker? Just an idea.

AT2

[Snoopy Guy]

It's been nearly 8 years since i've been back to D1. With the exploration of Macau Nightclubs as well as being a regular at 18 sauna (and yes I collect points there and for your regulars, you should join their long term membership thing so you get freebies) D1 has been off my radar for quite some time. However yesterday, while armed with a ticket to Rio Spa, somehow I got sidetracked and walked over to Jai Alai and went into Darlings. My original goal was to go enjoy the facilities at Rio but due to my own bloody time mismanagement, I was thinking "hey after Darlings, I will head on to Rio" which ends up with me running out of time before I had to rush back to Hong Kong and an extra Rio ticket.

So at around 2:00pm I arrived at D1, and through experience, I know you guys will flame me cause there's not too many girls there at that time, and I should know better to not go at that time when there were around only 16 girls there which were the 12pm-10pm shift girls. But one thing for sure is that these girls are fresh and not tired considering I was their probably their first client of the day for that shift. Nevertheless, most of the girls were 5/10 and there were only 2-3 that were acceptable in the 7/10 range. No stunners though. Another punter on another sofa was having an ass of a time trying to choose one and I can sense the frustration in him.

I order a coke from the manager, and started observing carefully the girls and since they were all sitting behnd the barrier, I totally forgot about checking out their heights, a common problem which I had made years earlier. Anyways, I decided to go for a skinny #235 who was Vietnamese and had a big smile on her face (the usual sign that she welcomes your business) I opted for the Vip room by adding $100 dollars and when she came out, I was like "what the hey..... she's only 5 foot tall". Although she's really short and cute and as the session begins, I realized I was in bed with mighty mouse.

Once in the room mighty mouse helped me remove my clothes and hang them (years ago they would just tell me to take off my clothes myself) and afterwards she stripped off her skimpy outfit and went to clean the tub and turn on the water. As I lay on the bed, she came over and gave me a pretty good massage while at the same time my hands were squeezing her unusually large fake breasts. The massage session lasted for about 10 minutes all in all and I was happy to know this mouse was GFE first class.

In the tub, theres not much to describe as it is the normal Darlings bubble rub but the sly mighty mouse was on a mission to make me blow my load in the tub. I The BBBJ was too intense. The tit job was too intense. The handjob was so intense that I had to bite my lips so hard to avoid exploding and mighty mouse was clearly doing it on purpose as I kept on telling her to stop and pulling away my dick, but she would always grab it back and go up one notch.

After the intense session in the tub, I checked the clock was down to my last 60 mins. Lying on the bed, she jumped over and started giving me the cat lick routine and to her surprise, I decided I needed to revenge on her sneekiness in the tub, so I flipped her over aggressively and let the lion loose and started to cat lick her shoulders, neck and eventually nipping on her ear lobes. With a towel nearby, i put it under her pussy and started DATY beginning with lapping her her side lips outside her pussy followed by clockwise and anti clockwise laps on her clit. As a self proclaimed master in the arts of DATY this turned her pussy flowing like a river and when she was wimpering and her thighs squeezed my head to a point where I felt I was suffocating in ear muff position, I knew she had gone to heaven and back but NO, she aint getting off that easily. I decided to do the triple threat technique on her to let her know she aint dealing with some noob. I was lapping her clit, and with one finger in her pussy stroking her gspot and had one finger stroking the area between her pussy and anus where some of the vagina sensory cells are with once in a while sticking one finger up her anus. For you folks out there this is the ultimate in pussy stimulation for any girl as I actually learned it from a friend of mine who happens to be a high class gigalo.

Neverthless, this completely drove her nuts and although moans can be faked, the convulsions from her body and expression on her face is a bit hard to fake. It went to a point where she had to stop cause it was too much for her and I knew she had a genuine orgasm and ruined the day for other customers.

After a short break she started sucking on my dick but I told her to go 69 and while she was sucking me out I sampled more of her pussy to the point where she stopped sucking on me and wimpered as I ferociously worked hard on giving her sweet pussy another assasination and if I had more time I would have wanted to go the forbidden fruit position on her and let her know whos daddy.

With less than 20 mins to go she mounted cowgirl on me with the sagami 0.03 polyeurothrane condom that I brought along, a fine condom which conducts heat much better than latex and shes wimpering out "its very hot in broken cantonese".

With some CG and mish, I came pretty quicky and sat and pondered maybe I should have just stuck along with the normal latex condoms.

A well spend 90 mins session with mighty mouse and after leaving D1, it was already like 4pm and I had to get back to HK by 6pm which made going to RIO pointless.

So here was my report. Total damage was like $1548 which includes the VIP room.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Manfest]

I am heading to Macau for a quick stopover in a couple of days and after browsing the forum have a couple of questions:

1. I presume the package deals that you can get at the ferry pier are not available at HKIA? I am planning to head to Macau from HKIA directly after landing there.

2. I am planning to get some sleep in 18 Sauna rather than booking a hotel, however would like to have a look around (perhaps catch a show, as per next question) in between sessions. However I'll have some small luggage including laptop - anyone know if it is possible and safe to leave belongings in a locker there while heading out for a while? Lugging it around isn't really an option.

3. Any other interesting shows besides Playmates club in the Guia hotel or tokyo Nights show in Grand Lisboa? And can anyone confirm what show times are? Plus is the Tokyo Nights show in Grand Lisboa easy to spot or discrete?

Any advice greatly appreciated and I will of course be posting afterwards.

1) Correct, no package deals from the airport.
2) They can handle small bags and computer cases. Another thing to do is check them into the casino luggage check, they can handle large bags.
3) Tokyo nights start around 3 PM until 10:30 with a show every 1.5 hours. You should re-check this as it certainly could change. Not difficult to find, or just ask.

Have fun

[Tiger 888]

The lockers were fairly small. Not sure if they have larger lockers available or some other arrangements. The Macau pier has some large lockers, but not sure how safe they are. Possibly store the luggage there and the laptop in the sauna locker? Just an idea.

AT2Another option: go to Sands casino. You will not be allowed any luggage inside, therefore they have a manned luggage storage. It's free and they ask no questions. They are open 24 hours.

[Acejack]

Are there any Texas Holdem Poker tables in Macau?


Acejack

[Mianbao]

Manfest, AsiaTraveller & tiger, thanks for your ideas. Am looking forward to the visit.

[JohnThomas0519]

was it "shur maah"?

when i was there about a year ago, all the sw kept repeating that to me. i thought it meant "upstairs" or "pick me please". then when i was there on my last trip i rang a friend living in hk who spoke mandarin. i asked for a translation and it simply meant = "yes ?"

the only phrase i bothered to learn was

bu2 dai4 tao4 kou3 jiao1 = bbbj"shur maah" is want to go with me? a play on words would be "do you want ot come/cum with me?" took me awhile to figure it out

[Asian Flava]

Hi Guys,

Already posted a few questions on the sauna thread but thought one was better put here.

1. Are there short time hotels where you can take FLs you pick up or do they have their own places to take you?

I'm planning on spending some time in Macau and in all likelihood will be a ferry and sauna package in HK. Will get some rest in the sauna (along with the main event) and also wander around Macau. So I wasn't really planning on getting a room anywhere since I'll have one back in HK. If I see something I like is there somewhere I can her?

2. Was also wondering where I can find out some info on the shows that are referred to. Is there a website? Sorry but I checked the thread here and didn't find anything specific. Would love to check some out.

Thanks again and will definitely post an FR about my trip.
AF

[Tiger 888]

"Shur Maah" is want to go with me? A play on words would be "do you want ot come/cum with me?" Took me awhile to figure it out"Shur Maah" is not Chinese. And if you pronounce it like that you can be sure no one will understand.

[Gyaos]

Are there any Texas Holdem Poker tables in Macau?
Acejack

Now there are at the Grand Lisboa. They had an ad up stating this (on the 2nd Floor) when I was a stowaway on their shuttle.

Gyaos.

[Big Dude Pilot]

So can anyone tell me which saunas will have shorts and robes for a big white guy? I am not saying I am obese but 6'5 and about 270lbs. I am worried about spending the money to go in their and then have to walk around with my balls hanging out either side of the little shorts!

Someone with some insight on this would be nice!

Cheers!

[Sparky Boy]

no problem man

just get the larger size

alternative, they all have like "proper" pyjamas for sale maybe like 40hkd or something, these are brand new and stil in packaging, different to the standard ones

some places actually have a robe, like those white ones that hotels have

u will not have problem with this

if paranoid, go to counter and ask to see the largest shorts

[Timewaster]

1) Correct, no package deals from the airport.
2) They can handle small bags and computer cases. Another thing to do is check them into the casino luggage check, they can handle large bags.
3) Tokyo nights start around 3 PM until 10:30 with a show every 1.5 hours. You should re-check this as it certainly could change. Not difficult to find, or just ask.

Have funCan someone elaborate on what is "Tokyo nights"? what kind of show is this?

Is it all nude asian girls show?

[AsiaTraveler2]

So can anyone tell me which saunas will have shorts and robes for a big white guy? I am not saying I am obese but 6'5 and about 270lbs. I am worried about spending the money to go in their and then have to walk around with my balls hanging out either side of the little shorts!

Someone with some insight on this would be nice!

Cheers!

Big Dude,

They seem to have every size covered, up to the Yao Ming Version (7' plus). My friend is Japanese, but he's 6'5" and 295lbs. They were able to accomodate him. They also provide a robe, and worst case, wrap the robe around your waist.

Peace,
AT2

[Naxnax]

Can someone elaborate on what is "Tokyo nights"? what kind of show is this?

Is it all nude asian girls show?Yes it is all nude asian girls show in grand lisbo. Girls even spread their legs for good show. Try to buy the ticket well before the show to get a seat close to the revolving stage.

I am not sure still 'Tokyo nights' are available. They change the theme. Though all shows with full nude girls. You can even go with your own girl company. I have seen couples watching the shows.

[Johnny Rocket]

Acejack,

Along with the Grand Lisboa there is now a room at the Grand Waldo in Taipa, co-branded with PokerStars.com. Very nice room with bigger games than the Lisboa, but right now less action. Also smaller rake.

Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket

[Just Rocco]

Hi guys,

Quick question - does anyone know if you can take out any of the performers from the live sex show at Golden Dragon? Or if not, where they might hang out after performing?

Thanks

[Johnny Rocket]

Hi Guys,

This report is from 2 weeks ago, sorry I didn't have time to post it before now.

Was in Macau, staying at Sintra, and came back from gambling very early one morning, probably 6 or so. Walking down the hallway of my hotel I saw a pretty cute Indonesian girl coming out of one room where, she told me, she'd left a friend without having done anything herself. So I took her to my room. She wanted $1K, and I told her if she was a good girl and served me well I'd give her something nice. (I planned to give her $1K anyway--I only had $1K bills in my wallet!)

We got into my room and started talking, and after a while got to business. Then, it turned out she had no condom. And neither did I. Fuck. I've never barebacked before but I did it this time. She told me not to come inside her, obviously I wouldn't. After fucking her for a while I had her suck me and I held her head in place to make sure she didn't pull off. I CIM. We showered and got in bed together, where we talked for a while. Eventually she began stroking my cock and before long I had her sucking me off and I CIM again. We slept for a couple of hours, then I kissed her and sent her on her way with her $1K.

I know barebacking is dumb as shit and I don't want to do it again. Are all the street girls in Macau as unprepared as she was? If so I'll carry my own next time. Thanks for any advice.

Have fun and stay safe!
Johnny Rocket

[Johnny Rocket]

Naxnax, are the girls in the show shaved/trimmed, or natural like Asian girls should be? :)

Are they available after the show?

[Genting]

Hi Guys,

This report is from 2 weeks ago, sorry I didn't have time to post it before now.

Was in Macau, staying at Sintra, and came back from gambling very early one morning, probably 6 or so. Walking down the hallway of my hotel I saw a pretty cute Indonesian girl coming out of one room where, she told me, she'd left a friend without having done anything herself. So I took her to my room. She wanted $1K, and I told her if she was a good girl and served me well I'd give her something nice. (I planned to give her $1K anyway--I only had $1K bills in my wallet!)

We got into my room and started talking, and after a while got to business. Then, it turned out she had no condom. And neither did I. Fuck. I've never barebacked before but I did it this time. She told me not to come inside her, obviously I wouldn't. After fucking her for a while I had her suck me and I held her head in place to make sure she didn't pull off. I CIM. We showered and got in bed together, where we talked for a while. Eventually she began stroking my cock and before long I had her sucking me off and I CIM again. We slept for a couple of hours, then I kissed her and sent her on her way with her $1K.

I know barebacking is dumb as shit and I don't want to do it again. Are all the street girls in Macau as unprepared as she was? If so I'll carry my own next time. Thanks for any advice.

Have fun and stay safe!

Johnny RocketHi Johnny,

I suppose going bareback in Macau is quite common even with Mainland China girls. In fact most of the girls I've taken back to my room seems fine with it. It is really stupid but I gotta admit I was a sucker a couple of times. However, if you've booked a girl from one of the reputable suanas, I was informed by the captain that the girls do get their regular tests for HIV, thus you should be pretty safe.

Cheers,

Genting

[Naxnax]

Naxnax, are the girls in the show shaved/trimmed, or natural like Asian girls should be? :)

Are they available after the show?Yes, the girls pussies are shaved/trimmed. most of them looked natural and pretty. i remembered the price was 250 HK$. as it is a show business, they got to have pretty girls with nice body and rake.

[Johnny Rocket]

Naxnax, the show is $20 or to take the girls is $250? Can't be the latter...

[Tiger 888]

Naxnax, the show is $20 or to take the girls is $250? Can't be the latter...
The show is HK$ 250 and I am sure that the girls are not available.

[Naxnax]

As Tiger 888 mentioned the show price is 250. I do not think these girls are available for common guys. Cost of living in HK and Macau has increased like anything in the past few months. With $20 you cannot even get a branded condom.

[Mianbao]

I had it all worked out. Land in Hong Kong at about 7.30pm, take the ferry to Macau, put my bag in the luggage storage at the Grand Lisboa, check out the Tokyo Nights show, hike up to the Guia Hotel for the show in the Playmates bar (never really seen this kind of show before therefore the interest in this), get my bag, proceed to 18 Sauna at Golden Dragon for a session, then sleep, then another session, before leaving Macau again.

However landed at Hong Kong closer to nine, and therefore got to Macau after 10. I therefore decided to head directly to Guia Hotel, except that lined up outside the ferry terminal was a free shuttle bus to Grand Lisboa, already more than half full. I therefore decided I must as well head there after all, and upon getting there found that the latest Tokyo Nights show was at 11.30pm. I didn’t have to wait long so spent the MOP380 or whatever it was for a ticket.

I wouldn’t say this show was very erotic, more of a tastefully done strip show. The girls were stunning, and some of them obviously talented, however it was not to any extent raunchy. At one point the two dancers with the nicest bodies of all danced together, however it was pretty obvious it was forced acting and they were not really into each other at all. Still it was interesting for something different. A final note on this is that I doubt the girls would be available afterwards, unless you were able to find them and willing to make a very high offer!

I then made the hike up to the Playmates bar in the Guia Hotel (no need to actually enter the hotel to go in, it has it’s own entrance), only to find that their last show was at 0030, which was when the Tokyo Nights show had finished. As I’d gone via the basement of the Lisboa on the way, I’d just missed it. I went in and sat at the bar, which required a MOP10 tip to the girls who were still doing strip dances (nothing required to sit on the sofas a metre or so behind). A couple of sour looking Russians danced, without any effort at smiling or eye contact despite being available afterwards, followed by an even more glum looking Thai who pulled out some patpong favourites from her bag of tricks (well, actually from her pussy).

Any of the girls were available for MOP1200 for 70 minutes in a private room, or for two hours if taking out. A couple of Kazakhs returned half smiles when walking past, but with the sour looks from most and the intention to make my way to 18 Sauna, I passed.

Not in any rush to get to the Sauna, and needing to pick up my bag from the Grand Lisboa (cloakroom in basement), I decided to go back to the Lisboa basement and sit in the coffee shop for a while, to observe the incredible eye candy walking past. After a couple of glances a girl from north east China initiated conversation, with the very direct line that we should go back to my room. Following a non-committal answer I continued to make conversation, and telling her I am based in Beijing these days I tried to get a contact number for when she goes home. No luck, but no real loss either, going by the poor reviews those girls get here.

After getting to the Golden Dragon hotel, I noticed that there was a nightclub on the 8th floor. Thinking this would mean disco, I went to check it out but was sat down and informed by a manager that it was KTV style only. There were a lot of attractive girls around (some in bikinis, no doubt from the sauna), but was told it was late for this floor and the rate would be expensive (over 3000, although cheaper earlier if I went back tomorrow). Also of interest was the crazy happy show, which was advertised in the lobby and elevator with a very suggestive poster. Considering the half naked girls and guys on the poster it appeared that it would be a full on live sex show, and I see that this has just been verified a few posts ago. When asking later I was told that the earliest show is at 7.30pm (same as Playmates bar), it was well and truly closed when I got there around 2.30am. It is on the 10th floor, marked as ‘table dancing’ in the elevator.

I then made my way into the 18 Sauna, showered and went to sit in the hot pool. A Euro 2008 game was about to start so I was happy to sit in the hot pool and watch the first half there, however that turned out to not be an option as my attention was distracted by five girls stripping on the platform above, followed by an excellent lineup that made their way out of a doorway, around the hot pool and outside the shower area. The facial expressions on the Chinese selection looked a bit sour, the Russians even more so, but the Viets returned lovely smiles when I offered one at them. One in particular caught my attention, nice warm smile and massive breasts for a narrow frame, so I booked her on the spot despite my earlier intention to take it easy timewise.

As I’d booked the girl and thought it impolite to keep her waiting I indicated to the captain straight away that I’d go into a room, and was led downstairs to where I was torn between porn and the football on the TV. After five minutes my selection arrived, and a fairly standard sauna procedure ensured. The girl fulfilled her duties, although the need for KY was a bit disappointing, but not surprising I suppose considering that I had stumbled in late on a Friday night/Saturday morning. After checking out the earlier shows and the girl having a sensational body meant I couldn’t hold for very long, and I blew a load after about 20 minutes. We therefore spend almost have the allocated time sleeping!

After the session I made my way back upstairs to the lounge, with the idea of sleeping until morning (reason for picking the sauna in the first place was so I did not have to bother booking a hotel and getting a shag included). To my horror the lounge was full, with a lot of people obviously having the same idea as me. Fortunately I was able to find somewhere to sit, although any question of sleep at that point was completely out of the question, due to a combination of LOUD mainland friends feeling the need to shout rather than speak quietly, and massage attendents asking every five minutes if I wanted a head/leg/thigh or whatever massage (very annoying and a reason not to choose this place in my opinion). It was 77 minutes down in the football so I decided to watch the end of that, a good decision as the last five minutes produced the only two goals and it then went to penalties, which filled the time anyway. After the conclusion of the game some other punters left, and I was able to nod off to sleep, despite the person next to me snoring almost as loudy as the others were talking.

Despite not being able to lie flat I got a reasonable amount of sleep, and decided to get as much of my money’s worth as possible by ordering two rounds of complementary spring rolls for breakfast, and using the free internet. I had originally intended to go for a second round in the morning, however despite 300 or so being knocked off the price (as the entrance fee does not need to be paid again), I thought 1200 was not really worth it.

In the morning the place was almost empty, and although girls were available there was no lineup like the night before. My overall conclusion on this place was that the service was pretty standard, although I had arrived at absolute peak time. Perhaps I’ve been spoiled in Shanghai before.

After leaving 18 Sauna I walked around for a bit. I found a sauna on a side street called Windsor sauna, signage outside was a pink colour, entrance up some stairs. “No-sex massage” was MOP300+, “sex massages” starting from 700+. It’s just behind the Esso gas station on Avenue De Amizade from memory.

[Fun Pete]

Well, I just sat down at the coffee shop in the race track around 11pm, ordered a drink, enjoying the show. Had my eyes already on one girl; suddenly, panik struck, ALL girls started running like maniacs in all directions; even the ones sitting at the coffee shop, having food / drinks. For a moment I got scared; but then I saw there was about 10 to 15 officers, in their FBI like outfits, and they managed to collect most girls. A few minutes later they walked them out the side door, I saw at least 20 girls. Two girls were hiding under the table next to me, and as soon as the officers left with the girls, they too left. I left after half hour. Came back one more time at 1am or so, no luck, ghost town. Hope they will be back tomorrow. Even on the streets not much happening. I am wondering if there is some special event where they are trying to clean up the streets, may be some high dude / or president is visiting? Or is it a cleanup for the Olympics?





The last time I visited the race track at 2am, the girls were all gone. Is the 3am activity still common? Once all of the shops and coffee shop shut down, it was a dark ghost town. That lead me to my Lisboa Sauna experience. There were some definite lookers at the race track early in the evening, just around 7pm. I can't figure out why they would shun Westerners as recently reported. The girls are not getting much action from what I could tell. They were all over me, when I walked through. I made sure my wallet was in the front pocket with my hand over it, they were so aggressive.

Peace,
AT2

[BruceTea]

After a short break she started sucking on my dick but I told her to go 69 and while she was sucking me out I sampled more of her pussy to the point where she stopped sucking on me and wimpered as I ferociously worked hard on giving her sweet pussy another assasination and if I had more time I would have wanted to go the forbidden fruit position on her and let her know whos daddy.


With some CG and mish, I came pretty quicky and sat and pondered maybe I should have just stuck along with the normal latex condoms.




NICE!!


What's the forbidden fruit position?

[Thanh That]

Just visited this place. Business as usual.

No sign of police raid as reported here last week.

[Good N Plenty]

Been RTFF for a while & coming to HK next weekend. Boiled down it seems Macau Sauna's are the no hassle way to go (if you don't know HK) for stunners. Anybody want to meet up? PM me.

[Wilson19]

I will be in Macau for 3 days end July. Could you guys tell me what should be on my do to list?

What kind of saunas are worth to visit?

Any clubs or bars with some action?

I will stay at the best western in taipa. Cheap hotel only 52bucks. Will be out most of the time anyway.

Hope you can help me out a bit.

Thanks guys

[Johnny Rocket]

Hey guys, any women available for picking up in Taipa (streets, casinos, maybe a sauna)? Where's best? Staying there in a couple weeks.

Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket

[Beijing Lover]

Taipa is just a 5 minute drive from downtown Macau.
So it's basically not a problem going to Macau to get what you want.
Besides from that, there are saunas and nightclubs in some of Taipa hotels.
You can try the former New Century (now Greek Mythology).
This place has also a bar in the basement with Indonesian and Russian girls.
On the Venetian there are also WG available walking on the mall and inside the casino.
But I think the wisest option is just to go to Macau Peninsula and then back to your hotel in Taipa.

Beijinglover

[Tanky]

Johny,

Taipa is generally quiet in comparison to Macau island.

Most sauna and pick up joint mostly located in macau as well.

But if really wants to stay in taipa area, you probably want to try the Grand Waldo, it's on the back building, next to Grand Waldo Spa (proper). I visited the place last week, but was told the sauna it's not operational, so they only offer sex only (MOP$13XX)

New Century: It's rundown and old, the quality of the girls is very low if we compare it with the rest of macau, (I wouldn't bother, but was told prices is less than MOP 1k)

I would recommend you to take a taxi to macau ($20-30) and try the selections there, it also caters for all budget.

Be sure to also indulge yourself with either one of the top 3 saunas while you in macau (Rio, 18, Grand emperor)

Good luck

Tank

[One Eyed Monger]

Well, you can RTF for the best saunas and what not. There is tons of information here.

If you're at the Best Western and need a quickie, just go next door to the Hotel London and pick one of the dozens of mainland women who hang out on the staircase. The sex is not amazing but sometimes you get lucky.

I once had 5 girls at once there, which was a lot of fun. I was trying to see how many I could get at one time.- trying for a personal best record, sort of thing. It was kind of like being in a soup of women. Lots of random limbs, mouths, breasts and body parts moving all over you. It was nice.

Anyway, I digress. There are a few of those quickie hotels/motels right around the Best Western if you don't want to travel to the more expensive saunas and SW's near the casinos.

OEM


I will be in Macau for 3 days end July. Could you guys tell me what should be on my do to list?

What kind of saunas are worth to visit?

Any clubs or bars with some action?

I will stay at the best western in taipa. Cheap hotel only 52bucks. Will be out most of the time anyway.

Hope you can help me out a bit.

Thanks guys

[Satta]

Taipa is just a 5 minute drive from downtown Macau.

So it's basically not a problem going to Macau to get what you want.

Besides from that, there are saunas and nightclubs in some of Taipa hotels.

You can try the former New Century (now Greek Mythology).

This place has also a bar in the basement with Indonesian and Russian girls.

On the Venetian there are also WG available walking on the mall and inside the casino.

But I think the wisest option is just to go to Macau Peninsula and then back to your hotel in Taipa.

BeijingloverGood info Beijing.

What hotels do you recommend in Taipa for extended stays?

[Brown Rail]

Hey guys, any women available for picking up in Taipa (streets, casinos, maybe a sauna)? Where's best? Staying there in a couple weeks.

Have fun and stay safe,

Johnny Rocket
You know I was in the casino at the Venitian about midnight, everywhere you look there were beautiful women checking me out. "massagee, massagee?" Did not seem to be any issues with them getting in.

I later walked through the MGM Grand and Winn but did not see any action at all in the casino.

[Starchild2012]

I love Chinese women..I had one in the Philippines and since then I'm hooked....I'm madly torn between..BKK, Manila and now Macau...I could cut myself into shanghai also..but i have read most of the top class WG come to Macau for getting hold of rich clients from around China.

After doing RTFF...I would be mostly staying at Best western and would definitely check out sauna 18, d2, Rio & racetrack.

As Brown mentioned Venetian is also getting hot on heels....I sometimes love to hunt and play around a while before shooting the catch.

What is the going rate for Venetian girls...I suppose same as racetrack 800 to 1200 HKD or has the big resort & vibe added some extra miles in their rates :)

[Fast Eddie 48]

I love Chinese women..I had one in the Philippines and since then I'm hooked....I'm madly torn between..BKK, Manila and now Macau...I could cut myself into shanghai also..but i have read most of the top class WG come to Macau for getting hold of rich clients from around China.

After doing RTFF...I would be mostly staying at Best western and would definitely check out sauna 18, d2, Rio & racetrack.

As Brown mentioned Venetian is also getting hot on heels....I sometimes love to hunt and play around a while before shooting the catch.

What is the going rate for Venetian girls...I suppose same as racetrack 800 to 1200 HKD or has the big resort & vibe added some extra miles in their rates :)Born loser,

I think for you the sauna is the way to go service by freelancer in casino is poor and rush ,you get much better quality and service at the sauna and better choice and the international staff ,yes all the hot girl from all over China and Asia head to Macau to work that is where the money at.

Fast eddie 48

[Starchild2012]

Born loser,

I think for you the sauna is the way to go service by freelancer in casino is poor and rush ,you get much better quality and service at the sauna and better choice and the international staff ,yes all the hot girl from all over China and Asia head to Macau to work that is where the money at.

Fast eddie 48


Thanks Eddie....I will spend Maximum time in Sauna..since, practically, we can spend the entire day in Sauna, Food..internet..place to rest...so it will be my den..


Just wanna be there now ASAP :)

[Beijing Lover]

Good info Beijing.

What hotels do you recommend in Taipa for extended stays?

Just to name a few>

Best Western Taipa Hotel
Grand Waldo Hotel
Grandview Hotel
New Century Hotel & Casino
Pousada Marina Infante Hotel
Taipa Square Hotel
The Venetian Resort
Crown Hotel
Golden Crown China Hotel
Regency Hotel

Go to any website and check the rates and conditions.

[Cabellaro]

Hotel london is nowhere near to best western hotel. i live in taipa just across the street of best western hotel. There is no action or whatsoever around that area.


Well, you can RTF for the best saunas and what not. There is tons of information here.

If you're at the Best Western and need a quickie, just go next door to the Hotel London and pick one of the dozens of mainland women who hang out on the staircase. The sex is not amazing but sometimes you get lucky.

I once had 5 girls at once there, which was a lot of fun. I was trying to see how many I could get at one time.- trying for a personal best record, sort of thing. It was kind of like being in a soup of women. Lots of random limbs, mouths, breasts and body parts moving all over you. It was nice.

Anyway, I digress. There are a few of those quickie hotels/motels right around the Best Western if you don't want to travel to the more expensive saunas and SW's near the casinos.

OEM

[Beijing Lover]

Hotel london is nowhere near to best western hotel. i live in taipa just across the street of best western hotel. There is no action or whatsoever around that area.

There is a another hotel under the Best Western brand in Praça de Ponte e Horta in the Inner Harbour.
This is just 20 meters from London Hotel.
And I can assure that this place is full of action.

Beijing Lover

[Weelock]

Hotel london is nowhere near to best western hotel. i live in taipa just across the street of best western hotel. There is no action or whatsoever around that area.Yes, there is a Best Western down the same street about 25 yards away from London. It's called Sun Sun. There are #15 for London and #14 for Sun Sun on map. See my map for other hotels in Macau. Newer hotels like the Wynn are not listed.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=544206&postcount=997


08/08/08 is this a good luck number? August 8, 2008.....

[Cabellaro]

Dude,

I guess you talking about the one in Macau. But the one that was mentioned in previous report is in Taipa. Believe me. No London Hotel in that area as I have been staying here for years. Never come across such hotel before. No much action in Taipa as compared to Macau.


Yes, there is a Best Western down the same street about 25 yards away from London. It's called Sun Sun. There are #15 for London and #14 for Sun Sun on map. See my map for other hotels in Macau. Newer hotels like the Wynn are not listed.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=544206&postcount=997

08/08/08 is this a good luck number? August 8, 2008.....

[Beijing Lover]

Dude,

I guess you talking about the one in Macau. But the one that was mentioned in previous report is in Taipa. Believe me. No London Hotel in that area as I have been staying here for years. Never come across such hotel before. No much action in Taipa as compared to Macau.

Strange!... because several past posts already mentioned London Hotel in the forum.
And... if you have been staying here (in Macau) for years... how come you don't know the place and never even heard of it?

[Weelock]

Dude,

I guess you talking about the one in Macau. But the one that was mentioned in previous report is in Taipa. Believe me. No London Hotel in that area as I have been staying here for years. Never come across such hotel before. No much action in Taipa as compared to Macau.

Have you heard of a hotel called SUN SUN? I think it's the Chinese name for this Best Western Hotel. In front of Sun Sun, there is a small park. About 7 years ago after 12am there were about 6-10 Russian working girls hanging around the park, no more now. I have stayed at Sun Sun looking for them from time to time over the years and nothing. I talked with the bell boys who are Filipinos and they said they all left for some reason one at a time and no girls since.The Filipinos speak very good English and some good but weird Chinese.


http://book.bestwestern.com/bestwestern/productInfo.do?propertyCode=99804

[Thanh That]

Dude,

I guess you talking about the one in Macau. But the one that was mentioned in previous report is in Taipa. Believe me. No London Hotel in that area as I have been staying here for years. Never come across such hotel before. No much action in Taipa as compared to Macau.http://hotels-macau-en.globalhotelindex.com/macaucity/london_hotel_2202231en.html

[Hat Trick]

08/08/08 is this a good luck number? August 8, 2008.....


The number 8 is pronounced in Cantonese 'fa" as in Gung Hay Fat Choy from Chinese New years.

Fat Choy means prosperity, wealth, or striking it rich.

Fa Fa Fa would then become a good omen chant for an auspicious or prosperity wish.

Incidentally, other numbers of superstitions:

999 - (jiu) Longevity, Forever. Old dynasties build most of their palace structures in the quantity of 9, 99, 999, or 9999 for longevity of their rule.

888 - (fa) Prosperity. Striking it rich. Auspicious. i.e. 168.

444 - (si) Death. Inauspicious. Bad Luck.

This is how most of China pick their addresses, phone numbers, license plates, wedding dates, now opening day for the Olympics.

Try find a girl in a line up with the number 44. :)

HT

[Tiger 888]

The number 8 is pronounced in Cantonese 'fa" as in Gung Hay Fat Choy from Chinese New years.

Fat Choy means prosperity, wealth, or striking it rich.

Fa Fa Fa would then become a good omen chant for an auspicious or prosperity wish.

Incidentally, other numbers of superstitions:

999 - (jiu) Longevity, Forever. Old dynasties build most of their palace structures in the quantity of 9, 99, 999, or 9999 for longevity of their rule.

888 - (fa) Prosperity. Striking it rich. Auspicious. i.e. 168.

444 - (si) Death. Inauspicious. Bad Luck.

This is how most of China pick their addresses, phone numbers, license plates, wedding dates, now opening day for the Olympics.

Try find a girl in a line up with the number 44. :)

HTI wouldn't take you as my Cantonese teacher for the time being.
Nuber 8 is pronounced bat with middle tone. Fat is also pronounced with middle tone, so that they sound close. Close enough to make this work. Your other examples are in Mandarin, not Cantonese.

168: yat1 luk6 bat3 sounds like yat1 lou6 fat3 ( 一路發 ) (good luck all the way)

- no offence intended, just need to correct a fact -

[Petercal]

As Tiger 888 mentioned the show price is 250. I do not think these girls are available for common guys. Cost of living in HK and Macau has increased like anything in the past few months. With $20 you cannot even get a branded condom.It looks like the show is currently outsourced to Asakusa Rockza.

There's a website in English:

http://www.rockza-macau.com/en/

Seems like the Japanese AV star Maria Ozawa is performing next month:

http://www.rockza-macau.com/en/cast.html

The show price has gone up to HK$380. Seems a bit pricey, but I guess it is cheaper than going to Japan to see the porn stars perform in person.

[Makeupaname]

My experience so far in Macau. I live in Shanghai but have come to Macau 3 times now for work.

I am not a fan of suanas, so have not tried one here. Most nights you can find average filipinas and indos hanging out around San Malo and sitting by the water close to the AIA building. These are mostly DHs or girls on visa runs. I did have one turn into a freebie. I was a gentleman the first time I met her. Next day 100 MOP load for her mobile and she turned into a semi-freebie.

Note - The central hotel at San Malo is a dump. 230 MOP weekdays. Dirty, smelled. I will never go back.

Tried D2 late Friday night. Got there about 2am and was not full yet. The hottest girls seemed to work for the bar as dancers and buy me drink girls. Saw 3 or 4 Africans. About 3am I saw a filipina girl I took home once in SH. Not very pretty. I offered 500 that I hoped she would turn down, but she accepted. I did not really see any nice looking P4P that night. She also says unescorted girls pay a 100 MOP cover charge.

Late night, I have seen a few girls just walking around near the Lisboa/Emperor/AIA that were obviously street walking.

The filipina lobby girls in my office building recommend the Monkey Bar at the Waldo on Taipa, on Tuesday(?) for ladys night and dancing.

A non mongering coworker say MP4 was swamped with 'hookers' on Saturday night. Of course he is a white guy that thinks its hard to pick up women in China.

Looks like I'll hit MP4 this weekend. Anyone know of some English speaking bars (non-casino) with a good happy hour or filipinas hanging out?

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[Blkdragon]

Consider this year:

Ti bet riot begins; 3/14--3+1+4=8
Sichuan earthquake on 5/12--5+1+2=8
earthquake measured by Surface wave magnitude= 8
earthquake happened at 2:28; calculate this into seconds=8880 seconds
Wenchuan= 8 letters


Yes, there is a Best Western down the same street about 25 yards away from London. It's called Sun Sun. There are #15 for London and #14 for Sun Sun on map. See my map for other hotels in Macau. Newer hotels like the Wynn are not listed.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=544206&postcount=997

08/08/08 is this a good luck number? August 8, 2008.....

[Corpo]

My experience so far in Macau. I live in Shanghai but have come to Macau 3 times now for work.

I am not a fan of suanas, so have not tried one here. Most nights you can find average filipinas and indos hanging out around San Malo and sitting by the water close to the AIA building. These are mostly DHs or girls on visa runs. I did have one turn into a freebie. I was a gentleman the first time I met her. Next day 100 MOP load for her mobile and she turned into a semi-freebie.

Note - The central hotel at San Malo is a dump. 230 MOP weekdays. Dirty, smelled. I will never go back.

Tried D2 late Friday night. Got there about 2am and was not full yet. The hottest girls seemed to work for the bar as dancers and buy me drink girls. Saw 3 or 4 Africans. About 3am I saw a filipina girl I took home once in SH. Not very pretty. I offered 500 that I hoped she would turn down, but she accepted. I did not really see any nice looking P4P that night. She also says unescorted girls pay a 100 MOP cover charge.

Late night, I have seen a few girls just walking around near the Lisboa/Emperor/AIA that were obviously street walking.

The filipina lobby girls in my office building recommend the Monkey Bar at the Waldo on Taipa, on Tuesday(?) for ladys night and dancing.

A non mongering coworker say MP4 was swamped with 'hookers' on Saturday night. Of course he is a white guy that thinks its hard to pick up women in China.

Looks like I'll hit MP4 this weekend. Anyone know of some English speaking bars (non-casino) with a good happy hour or filipinas hanging out?

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Try MP3 and the set of bars next to it. Many filipinas hang out there. You can also try the MGM grand bar inside the casino. The quality will be better as they sometimes filter the SW at certain times of the night, especially Sat. night.

MP4 is your best bet for variety and quality.

[Makeupaname]

Well Tuesday night at the Waldo is not that great. 2nd floor above the casino at the Waldo in Taipa. Ladies night is free champagne for ladies between 9 and 12.

The Monkey bar has 3 stripper poles on the main bar with rotating dancers. Mostly filipina. One amazing dancer, I forgot her name, but she said before she was a DH in Taiwan, and this is her first bar job. OK. The dancers say they only get 2 days off a month. One very active professional bar girl dancer and the rest of the girls did the shuffle with an occasional pole move.

The band started about 11PM. Played good covers of dance songs. A beer was 52MOP and a drink for the girls was 65.

About 10 foreign guys in the place. 10 dancers. 10 filipinas that were friends of the band and a table with 5 thai girls.

I had a few too many drinks before hand & at the monkey then decided to hit D2 about 1am. Pretty empty, waved over the 1st pretty filipina I saw. She agreed to 500MOP. Had 1 shot at night +another try and 1 in the morning. Name is Joy and provided a good GFE, but in the morning she did anoy me by complaining about my size. Checked my wallet only had a 1000 bill, but i felt she earned that. Tonight she will have dinner/movie with me, so I hope she wont ask for more $ tonight.

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[Timewaster]

It looks like the show is currently outsourced to Asakusa Rockza.

There's a website in English:

http://www.rockza-macau.com/en/

Seems like the Japanese AV star Maria Ozawa is performing next month:

http://www.rockza-macau.com/en/cast.html

The show price has gone up to HK$380. Seems a bit pricey, but I guess it is cheaper than going to Japan to see the porn stars perform in person.wow, Maria Ozawa!

My fav porn star.

I wish i was back in HK again.

[Sam Bajpai]

Coming to Macau with a large group of guys for a bachelor party weekend (over a dozen of us) in a few weeks.

Wanted to get an idea of what the best options were for arranging entertainment for such a large group, don't have exact ratios but a mixture of guys who want FS, some for massages and some just for clubs and shows.

Would the massage parlours satisfy the whole range or only the FS ones, does it make sense for such a large group? how about arranging something at the hotels (can't imagine the top hotels like Wynn, Venetian or Mandarin is girl friendly that way). Any other venues to get everyone somewhere and let them do what they want.

Any advise appreciated.

[Beijing Lover]

Coming to Macau with a large group of guys for a bachelor party weekend (over a dozen of us) in a few weeks.

Wanted to get an idea of what the best options were for arranging entertainment for such a large group, don't have exact ratios but a mixture of guys who want FS, some for massages and some just for clubs and shows.

Would the massage parlours satisfy the whole range or only the FS ones, does it make sense for such a large group? how about arranging something at the hotels (can't imagine the top hotels like Wynn, Venetian or Mandarin is girl friendly that way). Any other venues to get everyone somewhere and let them do what they want.

Any advise appreciated.

Hi!

I would recomend Grand Waldo in Cotai.
The place has a normal (family oriented) massage parlour, a «happy end» massage parlour, a bar with topless waitress and a bar with gogo girls.
Plus... a casino and an hotel.
Maybe that's the best choice in order to have all the guys together in the same place.

Beijing Lover

[Sparky Boy]

Stay in any hotel within your budget, all of them are girlfriendly that includes wynn, venetian etc... in fact, venetian has hookers on the gaming floor and the casino knows it.

My recomendation is not to stay in cotai, but rather stay in the main part of macau

Since there are a dozen guys and a weekend, u guys can go to 2 or 3 saunas, 18,rio,excellent sauna, darling 1 (actualy not a sauna, just a fuck place).

These saunas all have FS and proper massage, just do whatever you want.

DD2 is a bar/club just opposite grand emperor hotel where i recon half the girls are pros and the other half not so pro.

[Beginner Sm]

Great reports in this forum.

Just wondering for those who have been lucky enough to go to different cities including HK, Macau and Shanghai, which one would be more recommendable in terms of (acceptable) quality at an affordable price? I understand to each its own, but just a general opinion would be great.

Thanks

[J Lover]

No, it is Qu4 ma? - Shall we go?Yeah. That, or variations thereof. The one I kept hearing was qu4 bu qu4 ("how about it?")

[J Lover]

Was in Macau, staying at Sintra, and came back from gambling very early one morning, probably 6 or so. Walking down the hallway of my hotel I saw a pretty cute Indonesian girl coming out of one room where, she told me, she'd left a friend without having done anything herself. So I took her to my room. She wanted $1K, and I told her if she was a good girl and served me well I'd give her something nice. (I planned to give her $1K anyway--I only had $1K bills in my wallet!)

We got into my room and started talking, and after a while got to business. Then, it turned out she had no condom. And neither did I. Fuck. I've never barebacked before but I did it this time. She told me not to come inside her, obviously I wouldn't. After fucking her for a while I had her suck me and I held her head in place to make sure she didn't pull off. I CIM. We showered and got in bed together, where we talked for a while. Eventually she began stroking my cock and before long I had her sucking me off and I CIM again. We slept for a couple of hours, then I kissed her and sent her on her way with her $1K.

I know barebacking is dumb as shit and I don't want to do it again. Are all the street girls in Macau as unprepared as she was? If so I'll carry my own next time. Thanks for any advice.

Have fun and stay safe!

Johnny RocketJR you crack me up. Your signature line is "stay safe", but you still do bbfs! I cannot blame you. Under the circumstances you describe, I would be very tempted. I'm guessing she was not a pro, since she was unarmed. But I would never even consider bbfs even for a minute, knowing the guy before me could have done the same. It's like screwing the punter before me.

Anyway, what's done is done. If I were you, I'd simply drop into my local clinic (if you like, choose one where you don't have to give your real name) and at the very least, get a check-up for Hep B & chlamydia. Hep-B is onimpotent in Asia, and chlamydia has no outward signs, so cannot be detected other than through a test. If you want a HIV test, you'll need to wait 3-6 months from the event date, just to be sure the test can detect the antibodies.

Good luck, and I'm sure you'll be fine.

[Maniacaus]

Personally I prefer Macau for the all over experience. Prices aren't as cheap as in Shanghai or HK, but I do find that the girls (sauna girls at least) tend to me nicer. But it's all hit and miss really, you might end striking gold in Shanghai for fairly cheap.

But right now in Shanghai, it's fairly dead.

[One Eyed Man]

Per the WSJ on Monday:

Last month, the Hong Kong-born gambling magnate announced plans to tear down his flagship Lisboa casino and hotel and build his biggest and most opulent showcase yet, at a cost of HK$12 billion (US$1.54 billion)

... wonder if there will be a racetrack in the new casino?

[J Lover]

Hotel london is nowhere near to best western hotel. i live in taipa just across the street of best western hotel. There is no action or whatsoever around that area.Maybe he meant Macau proper. I think there are two Best Westerns. One on Taipa and the other on the peninsula. I know where London hotel is - it's in Macau proper, in the vicinity of the sleazy/cheapie hotels (not very far from the border to Zhuhai).

Someone pls correct me if I'm wrong.

[J Lover]

Great reports in this forum.

Just wondering for those who have been lucky enough to go to different cities including HK, Macau and Shanghai, which one would be more recommendable in terms of (acceptable) quality at an affordable price? I understand to each its own, but just a general opinion would be great.

ThanksWell my personal fave is Macau. It has the greatest choice of nationalities, prices and services. And it's compact, so it's easy to get around and hard to get lost. Whereas with Shanghai, you really need some local knowledge or a local guide to help you. In terms of punting, I don't know anything much about HK except that 141 girls are based there, most of them mainland chinese. Also, my perception is that HK is overpriced. But that's just my feeling.

Macau is also much more accustomed and geared to dealing with non-Chinese speaking customers than the other two.

[Manfest]

Great reports in this forum.

Just wondering for those who have been lucky enough to go to different cities including HK, Macau and Shanghai, which one would be more recommendable in terms of (acceptable) quality at an affordable price? I understand to each its own, but just a general opinion would be great.

No question, Macau is the best in terms of variety and quality. You can probably find better pricing in the other 2 venues. Furthermore, you get gambling and massages thrown in. You can't beat Macau for adult entertainment.

[Tom Jefferson]

Per the WSJ on Monday:

Last month, the Hong Kong-born gambling magnate announced plans to tear down his flagship Lisboa casino and hotel and build his biggest and most opulent showcase yet, at a cost of HK$12 billion (US$1.54 billion)

... wonder if there will be a racetrack in the new casino?The old Lisboa Hotel & Casino will be re-build.

The new Grand Lisboa will not be teared down.

[Jack The Lad]

I just found this vid thought I'd share it. Anyone know where this is? They all seem to have really fit bods but not sure about the face.

http://files.streamsex.com/video43381/Life_In_A_Massage_Parlour_In_Maucau

[BruceTea]

Personally I prefer Macau for the all over experience. Prices aren't as cheap as in Shanghai or HK, but I do find that the girls (sauna girls at least) tend to me nicer.


Perhaps it's my perception but Macau's Saunas are verging on the "expensive" side of the trade. 1500-2000 MOP or HKD is pretty high for sex with a WG.

[J Lover]

Perhaps it's my perception but Macau's Saunas are verging on the "expensive" side of the trade. 1500-2000 MOP or HKD is pretty high for sex with a WG.Ah well, that's globalization, I suppose. Look at it this way. Where in the world would you get a sexy soapy slide with a stunning hot Azn chick? I can't think of any apart from Japan. As long as the quality of merchandise & range of choice are maintained, I'm happy to pay those prices (and as long as my dollar is strong, I can't complain much).

[J Lover]

I am going to Macau tomorrow and was curious about something. Is Emmanuelle Sauna still in business or is it gone? This was one of my fave spots when I was last there (7 years ago).

I have tried a search and could not find anything. In addition, I have read all general chat posts from August 2007 onwards (about 20 pages). Nothing.

What has happened to Emmanuelle Sauna, and why does nobody mention it?

[J Lover]

I am going to Macau tomorrow and was curious about something. Is Emmanuelle Sauna still in business or is it gone? This was one of my fave spots when I was last there (7 years ago).

I have tried a search and could not find anything. In addition, I have read all general chat posts from August 2007 onwards (about 20 pages). Nothing.

What has happened to Emmanuelle Sauna, and why does nobody mention it?It's ok, I worked out the answer to this query myself.

When I was here last, I never bothered to memorize the address of Emmanuelle Sauna. Instead, I would always go to the Lisboa, and then navigate from there (it was about 5 mins away on foot). So, I did just that. Following the same route, it took me to the Sintra hotel. I felt fukn certain I had the right place. I went in, entered the lift and looked for the "Emmanuelle Sauna" label next to one of the buttons. But I could not see it!! Sensing my lack of confidence about where I'm going, a hotel employee who happened to be in the lift with me, asked me if I needed assistance. "Where's Emmanuelle?" I asked. He explains, with a tone of irritation in his voice, that it's closed, two years ago. I thought "fuck!" I wish I had made more pleasure trips to Macau in the interim. Back then, it was one of only two saunas which is fishbowl style.

Oh well, at least there's still Darling 1, and I hear Darling 2 is also fishbowl. But I've never been to Darling 2. Can't wait.

[Beijing Lover]

It's ok, I worked out the answer to this query myself.
I hear Darling 2 is also fishbowl. But I've never been to Darling 2. Can't wait.

Correct.
Darling 2 is also fishbowl but with around 15 to 20 girls to choose from.
It open aroun 1pm and closes around 5 or 6am.

Beijinglover

[J Lover]

Today, I tried to exchange the counterfoil of my sauna 18 ticket for a HK turbojet ticket but the representative office of sauna 18 at the ferry terminal, wouldn't let me. The original voucher had a date stamped on it - the use by date. The fellow who sold me the ticket made it very clear I had to use the voucher within a month. Fair enough. I made that deadline.

But when I went to sauna 18, they had stamped a second date on the counterfoil - the return deadline, after which you cannot redeem the counterfoil for a ticket back to HK. There is writing on the back of it, but it's all in kanji and I don't read chinese well, so I chose to ignore it. I should have guessed the second date has some significance. You can get your return HK ticket only if you travel back to HK within 2 days of the second date stamped (it says 3, but that's including the day you went to the sauna, so it's really 2). For me, I went to the sauna on 31st August and tried to get my turbojet ticket today (3rd Sept). So I had to shell out another 142 MOP. Fuck.

So my point is, if you're on a package, don't use that voucher until the day before you intend to return to HK. Otherwise, if you're spending a week here (say), and you use it on your first day in Macau (say), you're screwed.

[Tryntry]

Am planning to visit Macau with a friend mid November and have notice moderate hotels have no availablility or higher than normal prices. Can anyone tell if something (Hoilday or special event) is going on then?

Could stay in Zhuhai if necessary or go elsewhere in China.

Thanks for any advice or suggestions.

[ManonsanBoy]

Any such place in Macau? Low profile stuff?

[Beijing Lover]

Am planning to visit Macau with a friend mid November and have notice moderate hotels have no availablility or higher than normal prices. Can anyone tell if something (Hoilday or special event) is going on then?

Could stay in Zhuhai if necessary or go elsewhere in China.

Thanks for any advice or suggestions.

That's because of the Macau Grand Prix.
You can't get decent accomodation at moderate prices during that period.
My advice would be to choose another time to visit Macau.

Beijing Lover

[Fast Eddie 48]

Today, I tried to exchange the counterfoil of my sauna 18 ticket for a HK turbojet ticket but the representative office of sauna 18 at the ferry terminal, wouldn't let me. The original voucher had a date stamped on it - the use by date. The fellow who sold me the ticket made it very clear I had to use the voucher within a month. Fair enough. I made that deadline.

But when I went to sauna 18, they had stamped a second date on the counterfoil - the return deadline, after which you cannot redeem the counterfoil for a ticket back to HK. There is writing on the back of it, but it's all in kanji and I don't read chinese well, so I chose to ignore it. I should have guessed the second date has some significance. You can get your return HK ticket only if you travel back to HK within 2 days of the second date stamped (it says 3, but that's including the day you went to the sauna, so it's really 2). For me, I went to the sauna on 31st August and tried to get my turbojet ticket today (3rd Sept). So I had to shell out another 142 MOP. Fuck.

So my point is, if you're on a package, don't use that voucher until the day before you intend to return to HK. Otherwise, if you're spending a week here (say), and you use it on your first day in Macau (say), you're screwed.Jlover,

That is correct. When you buy the package in HK you have a month to use the sauna. It is up to the sauna to make the ferry ticket good for the same day. Some saunas will give you 7 days to use the ferry ticket, but sauna 18 only offers the same day options. You might want to talk to the managment ahead of time.

I read chinese so I know that last time I just go to the terminal exchange the ticket and sell it to someone for 100 hkd because I was going to Zhu Hai anyway .

Fast eddie 48

[Poopbunny]

I passed by Macau this year and stayed at the Venetian again for one night. I made a couple of visits to the Lisboa racetrack to see if I could find the same girl I saw the last time but I did not see her nor any of the other stunners I saw on previous visits. Generally I felt the standard of girls has gone down just a little, but still superior to the ones that lurk around the Venetian. On the taxi trip to Lisboa, the taxi driver handed me some advertising material with girls and phone numbers. It was all in Chinese and he spoke no English either. Since the only mandarin I know was to request BBBJ, the marketing material was useless.

Around midnight I was playing the slots and had a good run. I was up about HKD2000 and decided to sample the local delights. Some of the working girls are less forward soliciting business these days but if you look their way, they will come to you. Some will lurk around playing the low bet slots. One hottie did solicit for business, but unfortunately I was on a winning streak and did not want to leave just then. When I was ready she was nowhere to be seen. Probably busy with another punter. Then this young girl approached me, her face was average but she was slim, nice tight body and I could tell she had larger yet firm breast. I asked her about BBBJ, she said no problem. She also had a room at the Venetian, I later found out that there was a mama-san on the floor who kept the room key, I also suspect there was only 1 room between more than 1 girl. I said we would use my room and I decided to go with her because her English was better than most PRC girls I had bumped into. This made it possible for me to play a joke on her that I should check to make sure my wife was not in the room before we entered …LOL.

Nothing spectacular, but I did get my BBBJ. She claimed I was her first client, yeah right, I wasn’t born yesterday. She knew how to handle herself, knew too much and was not nervous. She was definitely a pro. She tried to sell a 2 girl service as well as LT service which I did not care for. I had some vouchers for free breakfast and offered her a voucher for free breakfast, only to be told that I could take her to breakfast for a fee. I rescinded my offer. Before she left she asked for a HKD200 tip on top of the HKD1000 we agreed upon. I said no. Although the service was above average, her mercenary demeanor made the whole experience only about average.

I would be keen on trying a sauna next time if it meant getting a better choice of stunners. I had previously avoided it because I did not want to pay extra when I already had a nice room. I also wanted to get straight to the deed without having to go through all the extras before it. Also, not buying the package from HK I get the impression that you pay a premium when you show up at the door. Anyone know of any packages if you don’t arrive in Macau via HK?

[Restless]

Has anyone booked hotels near the Inner Harbor (e. G. , Forson, Ruby) through the internet? I can't seem to find either of the hotels on the typical sites. Also, are these hotels up to western standards (I. E. , clean)? Any help would be appreciated.

[Beijing Lover]

Has anyone booked hotels near the Inner Harbor (e. G. , Forson, Ruby) through the internet? I can't seem to find either of the hotels on the typical sites. Also, are these hotels up to western standards (I. E. , clean)? Any help would be appreciated.

You can't book those hotels online.
To get a room just aproach the front desk and ask if they have available rooms.
Anyway I wouldn't advise staying on those places... they are not really western style hotels.

Beijing lover

[J Lover]

...I can't seem to find either of the hotels on the typical sites. ...
Which sites are these? I suggest you go to one of the following (in no particular order) and re-try your searches. There are some massive discounts on offer depending on the site you choose. In the past, I've had lots of luck with all 3 of them:

hotelclub.com
wotif.com
asiatravel.com

You can get a business-standard hotel for around 400 if you look hard enough.

Also, considering how small the place is, I think it shouldn't matter where you stay is, provided you stick to the peninsula (ie Macau proper).

[Weelock]

Which sites are these? I suggest you go to one of the following (in no particular order) and re-try your searches. There are some massive discounts on offer depending on the site you choose. In the past, I've had lots of luck with all 3 of them:

hotelclub.com
wotif.com
asiatravel.com

You can get a business-standard hotel for around 400 if you look hard enough.

Also, considering how small the place is, I think it shouldn't matter where you stay is, provided you stick to the peninsula (ie Macau proper).



1. The cheapest way, is use a travel agent located by the ferry terminal in Hong Kong or in Macau. They are also a few located across the street from the Holiday Inn.

2. The next cheapest is by internet.

3. The most expensive way to book a room in Macau in walk-in. I even tried to use my Holiday Inn card and it was still more expensive than the other two ways. The difference can be as 50-100% more.

[Restless]

These are names of hotels in the Inner Harbor area. In looking through various sites, they do not show up. As I will be arriving late Sunday evening from the U. S. , visiting the travel agents is not an option until the following day. I hate to move again once I get settled in a hotel. I'll probably book a room in either the Rio, Grand Emperor, or Lisboa.

Thanks for the help anyway.

[Haynese]

Gentlemen,

I'm an American living in Korea and I thought I'd visit Macau for the first time. For starters, I'll say I've never had as much trouble finding a hotel as I have for this trip to Macau. I spent one night on the Internet for 4 or 5 hours learning all I can from this forum and going to half a dozen or more websites just trying to find a decent hotel for a decent price for 5 nights.

After a grueling long night I thought I had booked the Macau Holiday Inn through the HotelTravel.com website. My cost was an average of $130 US for 5 nights. Not that I really wanted to pay that much but I was looking for a western style hotel in Macau proper (I did not want to stay in Taipa but I did look at the hotels there too). Anyway, a few hours later I got an email from Hoteltravel.com that said they couldn't confirm the booking and that Macau Holiday Inn was offering the hotel room to me for an average of $180 a night instead of the $130.

Not that I'm poor or anything but this is my first trip to Macau and I don't really want to get ripped off. Soooo, I got on the chat feature with HotelTravel people and they managed to get me the Emperor (not the Grand Emperor) Hotel for $105 a night. The customer reviews for the Emperor seem okay and I'll file a report when I get back.

I know some of you may be rolling your eyes at my seeming pickyness but a lot of the reviews of the 3 star hotels (which I believe the Emperor is) leave a lot to be desired. Really, I don't need very much in a hotel but a clean, quiet room that doesn't smell of smoke but a lot of reviews said they got just the opposite.

Finally, I'm still looking forward to visiting Macau and seeing what it's really like. Mainly I'm looking for a lively gambling town with a lot of pretty girls to look at. I'm treating this as a recon or scouting trip since most of my friends here in Korea have never been to Macau and don't even know where it is LOL! Any feedback from you gentlemen on anything I'm posting here (pos or neg) will be greatly appreciated.

Later!

Haynese

[J Lover]

Any feedback from you gentlemen on anything I'm posting here (pos or neg) will be greatly appreciated.

Later!

HayneseFrom their website, Emperor looks pretty flash, more than 3-star. $105 sounds like it could be a good deal, for that hotel.

The Best Western is half that price (for a weeknight). The standard room is spacious & clean and I was on a smoke-free floor. It's only about a 10 min walk from the action. By the way, when I said 400 for a business-standard hotel, I meant 400 MOP, not $400. That's what I paid.

[Nedword]

Has anyone booked hotels near the Inner Harbor (e. G. , Forson, Ruby) through the internet? I can't seem to find either of the hotels on the typical sites. Also, are these hotels up to western standards (I. E. , clean)? Any help would be appreciated.

I've only banged chicks in the Rubi and the Forson. As mentioned before they are not going to be able to be booked on the internet. But as you're arriving on a Sunday night you can just show up and get in one of those. They are clean but not in a modern hotel meaning of the word clean.

If you want to stay in the inner harbour area I would recommend the new Sofitel, that opened earlier this year. I never stayed there but it is a Sofitel, and you can book it on the internet. Otherwise for cheaper, the Macau Masters has an email address that can be found on the internet, and has cheap clean rooms. The East Asia was fine for me, and can be booked by travel agents, the Sun Sun is a Best Western, I never stayed there. And the London which is full of chicks can be booked by travel agents.

[Restless]

Thanks for the information. It sounds like East Asia and London are a step up from the Rubi/Forson. Since nothing is very far from each other in Macau, I assume both hotels are just as conveniently (walkable) located to Lisboa, etc.

Are the girls that hang out at London notably inferior to those at Lisboa?

[Janjan1]

Spent 5 days at the Venetian Macao. Working girls are all over the Casino, as reported elsewhere in this thread, and if you wondered if you would recognize them they make it quite easy for you. They whisper "message" to you, cute Chinese English. (Hilariously although being an experienced monger I actually thought for a split second that the first girl I passed had a message for me, LOL).

Anyway, it as around 1am, I picked up a nice girl after browsing around for 5 mins (I don't like gambling which is the more logical thing to do whilst making your choice), and smiled at her. She spoke reasonable English, asked my room nr and typed it into her cellphone. She showed me the nr and after I acknowledged she said '5 minutes'. I went up to my room and indeed 5 mins later she knocked on my door. Probably pays off the guard that stands in front of the lifts.

Great GFE, she was sweet, incredibly sexy with small breast handful like I enjoy, gave a BJ no condom CIM, wanted more, and more, and more. (She seemed shy when I met her at first. No longer.). She aksed an outragous 5, 000 HK$ for all night, I offered 1, 500 and resisted her pleas, and we agreed. Next morning she gave me another good treat, and she asked if she could stay in my room. I took all my valuables for the day of working so said yes, and surely when I returned at 6pm she was smilingly still there, and had taken lunch in the room as we had agreed. First thing she did was strip bare naked and go on all fours. Real GFE again (in fact my girlfriends are known to occasionally refuse to do this) and this arrangement continued for 3 days in a row. It's my first time in Macao, if this is standard stuff I'll be back!

She was a pro no doubt, but a very pleasant one!

[Nedword]

Are the girls that hang out at London notably inferior to those at Lisboa?

No. The Lisboa girls are wonderful looking and although I have never banged one, I visit there on all my trips just to check things out. At the London, there is a greater variety of girls, not all are tall or beautiful, but some are. Maybe out of 20 girls 4/5 could be walking around the Lisboa, but they are at the London instead being banged for 300MOP a shot. But many of the girls at the London that could not make it at the Lisboa, are in the cute category, but aren't 160cm tall. For just unloading in some chick, I think my best times have been at 200MOP places in the IH.

[Restless]

I'll definitely check out the Inner Harbor hotels the next time I'm there. Are the London girls better than Forson/Rubi?

[Salvatore X]

Example video reportage Sauna Macau

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7GOk3caCto

[J Lover]

Gents, the price in the Inner Harbour is 150MOP. At least, that's what I paid. It didn't take much convincing to get them to accept this price.

[J Lover]

Example video reportage Sauna Macau

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7GOk3caCtoSuperb video, even if it's not in English. Some of those (Dutch?) sentences sounded a lot like English.

The sauna he entered at the 3:03 point looked suspiciously like Darling 2 sauna. Though I'm surprised they had Thai girls there; I thought it was exclusivlely vietnam dolls in Darling 2.

[Manfest]

--cut--The sauna he entered at the 3:03 point looked suspiciously like Darling 2 sauna. Though I'm surprised they had Thai girls there; I thought it was exclusivlely vietnam dolls in Darling 2.

It was definitely Darling 2. Many many fond memories there. I agree they mostly have Vietnamese, but they sometimes have Thai and PRC samples too. Just depends.

[Tiger 888]

Yesterday I found the walking bridge from the ferry terminal to Jai Alai (Darling1) reopened. So it is easy again to walk there.

[Nedword]

I'll definitely check out the Inner Harbor hotels the next time I'm there. Are the London girls better than Forson/Rubi?

At the Forson the girls ask 500MOP, that seems to be the standard price. And they are very good looking. At the Rubi, there are some wonderful looking girls and they ask 300 MOP, there are some that are very good looking but they always get their friend in the room and it becomes an argument that I only want one. Then they try to charge 100 MOP for a blow-job. I just found this place not worth the trouble. Based on a price/hassle matrix, I'd visit the London before either of these.

My favorite place is a 200 MOP place that I don't know the name of, but 3 out of 4 of my visits there it was wonderful. Walk around the area, and you should eventfully find it, and if you have to walk up stairs to check out the girls, you've found it.

[Restless]

Wow! There ultimate treasure hunt, I'm really intrigued. I'll be looking at every staircase in the Inner Harbor.

[Presidio]

I've only banged chicks in the Rubi and the Forson. As mentioned before they are not going to be able to be booked on the internet. But as you're arriving on a Sunday night you can just show up and get in one of those. They are clean but not in a modern hotel meaning of the word clean.

If you want to stay in the inner harbour area I would recommend the new Sofitel, that opened earlier this year. I never stayed there but it is a Sofitel, and you can book it on the internet. Otherwise for cheaper, the Macau Masters has an email address that can be found on the internet, and has cheap clean rooms. The East Asia was fine for me, and can be booked by travel agents, the Sun Sun is a Best Western, I never stayed there. And the London which is full of chicks can be booked by travel agents.I haven't stayed at the Sofitel yet, but I'll be there later this month. I've read nothing but great reviews about the place, but then again, it's a 5 * hotel that's been open only a couple of months.

FYI, they are offering a sweet deal that I took advantage of. If you pre-pay, you can get a room for US$107 a night, but it's non-refundable. So if you know you're gonna be there, it's a hard deal to pass up. You may have to book at least 15 days ahead though, but double check that.

Look under Early Booking:

http://www.sofitel.com/gb/hotel-6480-sofitel-macau-at-ponte-16/special-offers.shtml

[J Lover]

You won't have to look very hard. In the evening, the girls hang around in the doorway, or just sit on the stairs. They will most probably beckon you from afar.

By the way, the going rate as at August is 150MOP, not 200.

[BruceTea]

There is a another hotel under the Best Western brand in Praça de Ponte e Horta in the Inner Harbour.
This is just 20 meters from London Hotel.
And I can assure that this place is full of action.





Where exactly is the Inner Harbour? It does not show up when searching for Macau maps....

[Poopbunny]

Where exactly is the Inner Harbour? It does not show up when searching for Macau maps....

Yeah, its hard to google.

Basically, the Outer Harbour is the sea side facing the South China Sea/Hong Kong as opposed to the Inner Harbour which is facing mainland China.

If you are walking towards Senado Square from Lisboa, Outer Harbour would be behind you. Keep walking past Senado and Inner Harbour is straight ahead.

[Sky Ryder]

There is a fair amount of information about buying a package deal if you are going to Macua from HKG, but can anyone enlighten me about the pricing difference if you are not able to purchase the package? I will be coming over from Shekou and I don't think that the packages are available coming from the mainland. I haven't seen any agencies selling packages at least in the Shekou ferry terminal. Also, has anyone stayed at the Casa Real hotel. If so I would appreciate any info/comments you might have. It will be my first trip to Macau, so I want to "pop my cherry" the best I can.
Thanks in advance!

[J Lover]

There is a fair amount of information about buying a package deal if you are going to Macua from HKG, but can anyone enlighten me about the pricing difference if you are not able to purchase the package? I will be coming over from Shekou and I don't think that the packages are available coming from the mainland. I haven't seen any agencies selling packages at least in the Shekou ferry terminal. Also, has anyone stayed at the Casa Real hotel. If so I would appreciate any info/comments you might have. It will be my first trip to Macau, so I want to "pop my cherry" the best I can.
Thanks in advance!Aha...I was just waiting for someone to come along and ask that question. Turns out, curiosity made me wonder about the same thing and on my way back to HK from Macau, I decided to return to the travel agents at Shun Tak and investigate. This is what I found (I only considered 2 shops, just to get a feel - my two favourite shops):

Package prices (purchased at Shun Tak):
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Darling 1: 1588 HKD
Darling 2: 1120 HKD

Walk-in-off-the-street prices:
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Darling 1: 1518 MOP
Darling 2: 1088 MOP

Sorry, I cannot help you with the other questions. But I would guess the concept of package w****house deals is unheard of, if travelling from mainland China (conservative place). Hong Kong is much more liberal.

Forgot to say: The above prices were correct wef 1st Aug 2008.

[Poopbunny]

Thanks for the info J Lover

It sounds like they are just sort of saying, we'll pay/subsidise for the ferry/boat ride.

Reminds me of Goldcoast many years ago where brothels were not legal in Queensland, but in neighbouring NSW (some 20mins away) it was. When I rang them, they said to tell the taxi driver the address, he would know where it is, and they would pay for the cab fare.

[Restless]

I'll be visiting for 2 days next week and staying at the Lisboa, my first stay there. Now that its days are numbered, I want to stay at "the" hotel in Macau before it's too late. It has been about a year since my last visit. Has there been any appreciable change in the local scene over the past year?

Any insight would be appreciated.

[Sky Ryder]

So I gather that the Lisboa Hotel is going away soon? Is the "racetrack or stroll' still going strong at this time? What are the going rates for ST/LT these days on the stroll. TIA

Sky

[Fast Eddie 48]

So I gather that the Lisboa Hotel is going away soon? Is the "racetrack or stroll' still going strong at this time? What are the going rates for ST/LT these days on the stroll. TIA

SkySky,

I was there a few week go there are many girl at the racktrack going rate for st is still 500 hkd don't pay more than that ,the asian enconomy is not good right now many casino expansion is on hold so the old Lisboa will be around for few more yr .

Fast eddie 48

[AAA112]

For those who have been to both which place would you suggest for the best mongering experience?

[Restless]

I just returned from a 2-day visit and have a few things to share.

I stayed at the Lisboa (east wing), which is a fine hotel, despite its age. The free beverage (no alcohol) from the minibar and free adult movies are nice extras. I think a lot of gamblers stay at the Lisboa as there is hallway traffic all thru the night, which makes the place a bit noisy.

The racetrack is in full swing, and I think the quality of the girls is a bit better than what I remember from 1 year ago. As a group, I think they rank at the top of any group of girls you'll find in Macau (including those you'll find in saunas and night clubs).

I must be pretty thin-skinned as I'm uncomfortable when the girls come around when I'm walking thru the basement. The idea of openly discussing potential business with the girls while all sorts of other people are around just seems wrong to me. The thought of walking with the girl thru the busy hotel is also awkward. For this reason, I did not pull the trigger at Lisboa. I should mention that I was propositioned by the masseuse at the health club when I went for a real massage. It's always suspicious when the masseuse starts to rub your balls. She waited until she was stroking my staff before asking if I was interested in special services.

There was a funny incident where I got on an elevator with 2 girls who were going down to the basement, and another lady. One of the girls told me that I should go to the basement. To play along, I asked why; both girls told me that there would be lots of girls waiting for me. While we were talking, the lady, who was standing near the door, stared straight at the door and didn't move her head an inch. I got out at the lobby level, as originally planned, and put an end to this lady's discomfort. I think, for these girls, any guy alone in this hotel has a giant bull's eye on his back. Next time, I might grab a bite at the restaurant in the basement to check out this unique activity for more than a couple of minutes.

Moving on from Lisboa, based on my observations during day, night, and late night, the girls that were around the pedestrian street behind the Holiday Inn are gone. LE was a constant presence. I doubt this is a temporary measure for the Grand Prix as that is still 3 weeks away.

I did check out the girls at the Ruby Hotel. For 300 MOP, you get a half hour to do the deed. The girls were a few years older (mid to late 20's) and not as nice as those in the saunas I've been to (Rio, 18), or Darling 2. I also got to see a room there, which validated the advise I got from another member about not staying there for my visit. I did not get a chance to look for the London Hotel, which will have to wait until my next trip.

After 10/11 pm, there are SW's around Senado. A couple of girls were rather nice looking, but I have no details.

I did visit the sauna that's about a block from the Holiday Inn. It's an older and smaller place than Rio/18, and the girls are also a notch lower. They charge either 1, 344 or 1, 044 MOP for 1 hour, depending on the girl you pick, although only 2 or 3 of the 25/30 girls were at the lower price. The place does not compare to Rio/18, but I was pleasantly surprised by the service I received from the girl I picked. She paid attention to all the sensitive parts of my body with no hesitation/reluctance. This is a place that I will go back to.

[Sky Ryder]

Hello All,

I am planning on making my first visit to Macau on Monday (tomorrow). I know that the weekends are busier, but this is more to see the place, play a little poker or blackjack and mostly see what kind of fun there is to be had in Macau.
If anyone is in town and would like to have an adult beverage and share some stories, first round is on me!
I am going to try and stay at the Casa Real, as I was told it was an okay hotel at a resonable rate. I wanted to see if I can book it from the ferry terminal in HK.

[El Greco]

For those who have been to both which place would you suggest for the best mongering experience?


I haven't been to Macau so far but unless you are a gambler Thailand is second to none.

Ok second to Rio de Janeiro if you like Latinas.

With a few extra bucks you can visit Macau from Thailand and even advance your self to south China for a while. Here is your link. They offer great discounts from time to time. All you need is plan ahead.

www.airasia.com

Now if you have more time you can fly from Macau or Hong Kong to Angeles City near Manila and from there to Jakarta and you are done with the best mongering destinations in the Far East

www.cebupacificair.com

Again they are having fantastic discounts if you plan ahead.

Enjoy and welcome to ISG

[Sky Ryder]

I wasn't able to get to Macau today, but do have a question. Would someone tell me what the typical average minimum bets are on the table games? Blackjack, craps and the like.
TIA
Sky

[Viajando Musico]

I went to the race track a month ago when I passed by Macau. there were many attractive girls walking arround in the basement of Lisboa Hotel. actually I have never seen better lineup in China than this. Talked to a couple of them and learned many of them came from North East China where girls are generally taller, whiter and with better figure than their southern counterparts. They were all asking 800 Yuan for ST. I didn't try to find out how low the would go, since I was not comfortable with the attitude of these girls, very business alike. I normally had better experiences at the Saunas.