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Warning!!!!!!
If planning a run to Indonesia or Bali, it is now pure ass dangerous!!!!!!
Fundamentalist whatever the hell they are's are now striking at all foreigners. Over 2 dozen foreigners killed there yesterday by bombs.
Gentlemen:
What's the scope on the situation in Indonesia now in general and in Jakarta and Bali specifically?
Would you recommend a foreigner to travel to this country for leisure purposes only? Or is it better to "wait and see" what the next months will bring? I know that many moderate muslims want the foreigners to return to their country like it was before the attacks started last October but please be sure to describe the situation as realistic as possible.
I guess the Islamic fundamentalist terrorists are still out there and are waiting right now for a good opportunity to attack tourists again as they did with the bombings in hedonistic Kuta last year and the US-owned Marriott this year?
How's the mood toward foreigners in this country these days: Are people afraid to be together with them because they could be possible terrorist targets? Or are they welcome and the problem is just overstated in the Western media?
Charly
PS: What is the Indonesian government doing to protect foreigners in their country? (I do know that the WSG Forum's not the place to discuss political issues. However, in this case I believe it's important to learn about the situation there since our mutual hobby depends also on the political circumstances in a country).
Charly,
This is not really information, but more an advice.
In my opinion, there are two places you must avoid for the time being. First, the bars at jl Paletehan, near blok M busstation. As you may know, it is THE gathering place for the caucasians in Jakarta. Second, Lintas Melawai, the place that has been mentioned a lot in this forum, as the place where to find "companions".
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Okay you horny bastards, this is agent Babihutan reporting from his post field experiences on the lady of Indonesia. I crossed the country from Banda Aceh in Sumatra to Merauke in Papua, and found the girls to be as exotic, diverse, and interesting as the country itself. First of all, for all you folk putting off your trip to Indoland after watching CNN of the Bali bombing, and war in Iraq, its time for a little reality check.
The day I entered the country in Sumatra back in March, the war in Iraq had just broken out, and me and my buddy were some of the only foreigners in sight, because the media scared everyone away. If anything, we were treated like royalty, cause the tourist business was collapsing. Second, in general, Indonesians are much more like other East Asian cultures about tolerance than some of the more strict Middle Eastern cultures. Its not over run with bule (foreigners), like Thailand for example, so there is a much more received welcome anywhere you go, and very decent hospitable people. even the most hardcore Muslims of Aceh welcome any tourist of any creed or faith, as long as you're not slammin their daughters. But in most places across the country, very pretty girls will be much more available to just about any westerner than lets say back in The States or Canada. And the best part is, everywhere you go, you get a different flavour. The country's made up of hundreds of ethnic groups.
All I can say is if you stay on the tourist trail, you will meet many beautiful girls who are looking for you, and when you go off the trail, you will be an object of wonder and fascination, and will wanna be examined by curious females. So its a no-lose situation. In general, they're not as materialistic as most other asian chicks (this varies of course), and can be more fun and down to earth, less business. But hey, if you're still too scared to go, thats fine, leaves less competition for me on my next trip :)
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Scared of Indonesia
When I say I'm not in the least afraid of traveling to Indonesia, I'm not telling the whole truth. An earthquake is something I'm really apprehensive about.
A big earthquake is long overdue in Jakarta, and when one happens, it will kill hundreds of thousands. Needless to say, most buildings supposed to have been constructed to resist a major seismic event probably weren't.
Therefore I consider the seismic risk far greater than the risk of terrorism. Indonesia is a big enough place for dozens of bombs to go off without my being anywhere near where it happens. On the other hand, should Mother Earth decides to make her move while I'm there, I see the multi-storey hotel where I'll be staying coming down like a card castle.
xxl
Hi guys,
I'm planning a trip next month to Surabaya, Bali & Manado. Does anyone have any mongering tips for me? Where to go, where to stay etc.
I'm especially interested in finding accomodation, hotels, apartments. Where you can get some privacy and where its not a problem to bring back any girls.
Any info on this is much appreciated.
Joel
Joel.
In Bali, try Swastika Hotel, ( its an Indo religious symbol, no Nazi connections like in South America). Its in Sanur, where the Barokek brothel is. Some other brothels are located there as well. Just ask your bartender, bellboy, or taxi driver, they will take care of you for a small referral fee, $10. The hotel is cheap, has decent food, and is very laid back. Location will save you the most travel time.
The traffic is so bad that it will take you 30 to 45 minutes if you stay anywhere else, to get to and back from where the girls are.
Thanks Mangus.
Read your report in the Bali section. Also checked the Swastika website, cottages around 2 swimming pools.. I'll be heading there when in Bali. Seems like a nice place to hang out and unwind for a while. How about the Barokek broth.? How would you rate the girls over there? And actually, how easy will it be to pick up any non-pro's in Bali. (as to look for a true GFE)
I'm also interested in some advice on Surabaya.
Cheers!
Joel
Joel Goodson
Rather than Barokek, try Diyan Ayu. Barrokah is about 10 years past it's prime and so are the women. Don't tell them or your cabby that you've never been there. I no longer negotiate. I simply choose a girl, go to the room and hand them a 100,000 rup note (about $12 US) If they question it, I simply say 'suddha' (already) let them know you've been there and that's what you pay. It's only one word to learn. Your cabby is not your friend. He's on the take. Don't confuse friendliness with being your friend. The average wage is 20,000 -30,000 rups per day ($3. US), so for him to sell you out for 50 cents is a common practice. Their are many great places across the highway from Diyan Ayu. They're cheaper, but harder to find.
When in Surabaya "Dolly's" is an area which might resemble Thailand in that it's several city blocks with nothing but girls available.
JF
Good Day Gentlemen
I'm an old forum hand from the Dubai site and am expecting to get posted to a place called Balikpappan in Indonesia soon. Any info on this area would be greatly appreciated. Such things as places to frequent, places to stay away from, prices, services offered etc will be greatly appreciated. Anything I can offer to anyone thinking of visiting Dubai will be returned. It is one hell of a place for a great time. Please PM me here anytime.
Thanks
Cap
Captain Fire,
If Dubai was a " hell" of a place, then Indonesia is " Heaven". Balikpapan has some great joints. Not like Dubai where you need to do things clandestinely. And if you get caught there you had it. You will find Indonesia far better than Dubai. Just enjoy yourself. Check into the hotel and visit the bars there and you will find out.
Filipinas, Malaysians, or Indonesians:
This question is for those rare people who know all three. I'm asking this question in the Malaysian and Phillippine sections too.
It seems that women from these look similar. Which do you prefer? I have been to the PI several times and understand Filipinas reasonably well. I worked with a Malaysian woman who looked like she could've been from the PI. She was equally as beautiful but, more "intelligent". I have no experience with Indonesians.
HarryDho,
Indonesian girls are varied on their physical appearance due to their origin. Some of them are light skin (In Manado or in Boneo), some are dark skin (Papua or certain area of Java).
The condition on their sex performance are also differed from area to area. The girl from Manado are more open on the sex but gilrs from Aceh are more conservative. It is all depend on what you are looking for and what kind of girl you meet.
Many Philipine girls are more like Manado girls because of their geography similarity. The same thing with Malaysian girls. The Girls from Kuala Lumpur will be more open than their sister in Trengganu due to culture.
But all of that reason will be individually depend on the particular girl themself. So you just enjoy what you have on every girl in Malaysia, Indonesia or Philipine. They all are beautiful girls.