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Kyiv
[QUOTE=CanadianBoy;1281529]In the FSU looking like you have money garnished with a western accent usually means you have money and that is a big plus when meeting women here.[/QUOTE]Right, but as Pedro rightly said to overdo is as bad as dressing too low. Best is to look fashionable and refined, but not obsessed with it. That is why IMO intentionally wearing a suit in a club is ludicrous. We're not in the 90s anymore. Now a sex-weaned foreigner who dress like a "biznessman" solely with the intention to impress is rather a subject of mockery.
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Can anyone give a price quote (average) for an apartment in Kiev for say, a week? Also, when I'm not poon-hunting, what historical sites are there to see in Kiev? I was told it's the oldest city in "Russia".
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Sinanjumaster,
As a son of Chiun, I recommend the tour at the Nuclear plant at Chernobyl. Just ask anybody who glows in the dark for directions.
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So guys, finally somebody (like me) here from Kiev. You can ask me, I can provide help with Kiev, gals, or places. Hope you enjoy the capital of Ukraine!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rastaman
[i]Kievman-- I am a Black American guy--would I have any problems if I were to visit Kiev or Odesa??? [/i][/QUOTE]
No, man.. ;)
Americans are still welcomed there, and not so much racists there. If only you don't sell drugs. ;)
It's a many places in Kiev, where foreigners can feel safe and comfortable, and not expensive.
May be you got some problems with gals, so be prepared if some of them refused sex with you.
This is not rasism, just common xenofobia, cause we haven't much black people there, like in France, or Germany.
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from chris in the old unkraine archives
'Generally, a sence of jealous xenophobia does exist, always keep a low profile and avoid overcurious local men (this applies especially to black dudes, recently i saw a "gang" of 50 or 60 teenagers beating up a group of tourists in the middle of Kiev, simply 'cause they are black, and nobody...not even the cops did anything about it). '
caution is always prerequisite when traveling in the former soviet union.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by snail
[i]from chris in the old unkraine archives
'Generally, a sence of jealous xenophobia does exist, always keep a low profile and avoid overcurious local men (this applies especially to black dudes, recently i saw a "gang" of 50 or 60 teenagers beating up a group of tourists in the middle of Kiev, simply 'cause they are black, and nobody...not even the cops did anything about it). '
caution is always prerequisite when traveling in the former soviet union. [/i][/QUOTE]
Bullshit!
I live here, but never saw 50 teenagers together. Only with a teacher ;)
Some time ago "skeanheads" attacked jewish church in Kiev. So cops and spetial forces didn't sleep two days, but catch them all! If something happens with citizen of US in the middle of Kiev, some police generals and colonels can have a really big troubles, and they know it.
But after football match Kiev can be a dangerous place (so why I hate this game). And not only for black people. But cops works ok, in any situation...
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hi kievman,
Im looking to make an extended visit to Ukraine this year. Can you provide info about apartment rental? Im looking for a reasonably priced place for a month or two. Also, do you know where I might find a detailed street map of Kiev? Im also looking for all the same info on Odessa. In fact, any info you could point me to in Ukraine besides the usual tourist traps would be helpful.
thanks
beorning
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by beorning
[i]hi kievman,
Im looking to make an extended visit to Ukraine this year. Can you provide info about apartment rental? Im looking for a reasonably priced place for a month or two. Also, do you know where I might find a detailed street map of Kiev? Im also looking for all the same info on Odessa. In fact, any info you could point me to in Ukraine besides the usual tourist traps would be helpful.
thanks
beorning [/i][/QUOTE]
Hotels in Kiev - $12 - $200
apartments $25-$150 (look here: [url]http://kiev2000.com/shop/apartment.asp[/url] )
Maps
here
[url]http://kiev2000.com/mix\map.asp[/url]
or here: [url]www.isgeo.kiev.ua[/url] (server is down now, but try it later)
About usual tourist traps?
Don't know, cause I don't travel ;)
If you only can explain what you mean.. :)
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About Ivano-Frankivsk,
Where do you find the girls there? Are they like FL's or students?
How much do you usually have to pay?
I understand that it is in the Carpathians. Am I right? Is it a big city, or the countryside of Ukraine?
Please give any info regarding the scene in IF. Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TRL
[i]About Ivano-Frankivsk,
Where do you find the girls there? Are they like FL's or students?
How much do you usually have to pay?
I understand that it is in the Carpathians. Am I right? Is it a big city, or the countryside of Ukraine?
Please give any info regarding the scene in IF. Thanks in advance. [/i][/QUOTE]
Ivano-Frankivsk a small city, I never visited it.
But as I know - anywhere in the big world girls love you charm and intillegence, or your money. If you have something of it - you can go there. ;) But! In small cities of ex-USSR can be dangerous at evening and night. So, if you got a girl, better don't go so far from center of city. And without girl too.. ;)
About payment.. Me? No fuckin' way! I never pay for it. ;)
But if you want, you can pay in dollars everywhere in Ukraine. Not in shops, but to people for any services. I think in Iv-Frankivsk girl can be about $30-$50 per hour. But if they see, that you are foreigner, they can ask for more. They MAY ask. ;)))
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Kievman,
Thanks for the info on Ivano-Frankivsk. On another note, what do you think of the Ukraine/Russian 'meet your girl' sites. Are they for real or a scam?
Also, are Dnepropetrovsk and Krivoy Rog big cities? How much would hotels/apartments cost in these places? Are there any special rates if you stay like 1 month or longer? How are the girls in this city?
Are you a native Ukrainian? You live in Kiev? Do finance qualified people get alot of income in Kiev?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TRL
[i]Kievman,
Thanks for the info on Ivano-Frankivsk. On another note, what do you think of the Ukraine/Russian 'meet your girl' sites. Are they for real or a scam?
Also, are Dnepropetrovsk and Krivoy Rog big cities? How much would hotels/apartments cost in these places? Are there any special rates if you stay like 1 month or longer? How are the girls in this city?
Are you a native Ukrainian? You live in Kiev? Do finance qualified people get alot of income in Kiev? [/i][/QUOTE]
Ok, man, here is a some absolutely REAL links:
the biggest in Ukraine
[url]http://www.kievsex.com/ads/index.php?ct=she-he&md=browse&ratedads=1[/url]
another one:
[url]http://www.prosex.com.ua/sex/main.php[/url]
Dnepropetrovsk is a big city, girls are the same in all ukrainian cities ;)
I'm russian, but live in Kiev.
If you can get a job in your country, and your company send you to Ukraine - you will live here like a king.
About jobs here? It exist. ;)
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Thanks for your reply kievman, I first read it yesterday because I forgot about my post! To explain 'tourist traps': in America where I'm from there are places that charge high prices and are marketed to tourists. Consequently the locals don't frequent them much. I expect that there will be places in Ukraine that as an obvious foreigner I will be subject to higher prices than locals think reasonable or pay themselves.
My goal, as a typical greedy american pennypincher, will be to pay local prices, not tourist prices ;).
Also, what's a good place to look for personal accounts of emigration to Ukraine (or other former SB countries), other than escapeartist?
Where is a good english speaking forum about Ukraine?
In short, where do i find inside info on the internet about everything in Ukraine? By "inside info" I mean real information, not western governmental/corporate media and not Ukrainian governmental/corporate data.
Can foreigners really buy land in Ukraine? I just want to buy a few acres of land in a rural area that i can plunk a well onto and retire :).
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Hi
Need some local adivse. Anyone care to recommend a good strip club/bar in Kiev. I'd prefer somewhere without too much hassle, good beer for happy evening viewing. And maybe with the chance to take someone home at the end of the night?
cheers!