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Married for 17 years with a brazilian "normal" girl and being married previously to an English, I can tell you they make the best companion in the world.
I know quite few men who married to brazilian and they are ALL very happy.
I knew one who married a GDP but that was another story, while being nice to him she was still sleeping around.
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Is it possible to place the old reports on non-pros in this thread? Let me rephrase - is it easy and simple to put the old reports in this thread?
All of the normal brazilian girls that I've dealt with and the one I've been seeing now for the last three years have been fun, cool girls. Brazilian women are no different from other women in that they want a man they can respect and they want to be respected. This sounds like a simple task but its easier said than done when the itch to go to Help or do a termas run hits you and she wants to sit home and watch videos. One of the major differences in dealing with brazilian women vs american women is the period leading up to the actual relationship. Once she accepts you, you're in and you'll have a companion that will stand with you through anything but getting her to accept you is the tricky phase. Remember this: in brazil we are all mongers til proven otherwise and no self respecting normal girl wants to be associated with a monger unless she's looking for a sponsor or a sugar daddy because everyone will then assume she's a GDP. So if you have your eye on one of the Duty Free girls who sees you go in and out of Rio every few months you can be sure she's got you pegged as a monger. If she doesn't care that you hang at pataca or that you go to help she probably doesn't care period. Another point to remember is that normal rules of attraction apply with normal girls. Whereas GDPs accept us whether we are old, fat, skinny, bald, hunchbacked, crippled, or stinky normal women tend to hold men to higher standards. Yes we see alot of brazilian couples where the guy looks twice the womans age and those guys are supporting that arm candy. It especially holds true for gringoes who are all presumed to be rich anyway. All in all dealing with normal brazilians presents the same joys and headaches as dealing with other regular girls. Depending on how far you want to take it is determined by how much of your mongering time you're willing to sacrifice for the sake of normalcy.
[QUOTE=Biruta]Married for 17 years with a brazilian "normal" girl and being married previously to an English, I can tell you they make the best companion in the world.
I know quite few men who married to brazilian and they are ALL very happy.
I knew one who married a GDP but that was another story, while being nice to him she was still sleeping around.[/QUOTE]Why is that? GDP have a habit of ruining the opportunities that are given to them. Most of the threads that I haved read of guys giving them a chance to start over, the girl always end up back to Rio doing what they where runing away from. Is it the money? . The lifestyle? . That draws them back? I would love to hear from a true life experience.
[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]Why is that? GDP have a habit of ruining the opportunities that are given to them. Most of the threads that I haved read of guys giving them a chance to start over, the girl always end up back to Rio doing what they where runing away from. Is it the money? . The lifestyle? . That draws them back? I would love to hear from a true life experience.[/QUOTE]The fact is that the majority of gdps don't want a chance to start over. The lie that they hate what they do and they want to live normal lives is one of the biggest crocks of bs that the girls lay out for guys to believe. Any one of the pataca or Help girls could stop programa tomorrow and find a job working as a waitress or in Rio sul. But of course they won't because they are waiting for some rich american to shower them with money. They may tell guys that they want out but the reality of it is they are just using the guys and most guys fall for it figuring; poor brazilian girl. "just let me sprinkle some money on her and I'll have a hot brazilian nympho wife for the rest of my life. " a wise old brazilian once told me; " Putas never stop working. They just take a vacation. " they live like royalty. Sleep all day. Lay on the beach. Party all night. Get paid to have sex at a ridiculiously inflated rate in comparison to the normal brazilian income. Guys pay for their food, clothes, phones and in some cases their apartments and the homes their mothers live in as well as buy them cars, appliances and pay their way to fly all over the world. Why would they give that up to be a housewife? Only a very few select gdps really want to escape from brazil and half of them only want to come to america to do the same thing but only at a higher rate. There are at least 20 girls; probably more who are married to americans and every time they"visit their mothers" run straight to Help. I recently talked to some girls who are married to guys in the states. When the rumor floated around that america may waive visas for brazilians (doubt it) the first thing the girls said was that if it happened they would get divorced. Is it the money? The lifestyle? Or is it the fact that they don't really care for the guys in the first place. All of those elements play a factor.
Garota thread - remember!
[QUOTE=Donnie D]Garota thread - remember![/QUOTE]Sorry. i digressed into one of my dennis miller rants.
Even with normal girls economics and race play a factor. A waitress making minimum wage in copa will give a foreigner play before a girl in Barra will because he represents a pathway to her doing some things that she might never get to do otherwise. most guys who have been to Nuth or Club Ceasar in Barra will tell you that brothers get no love with the upper middle class/wealthy girls(all white). girls in places like lapa are more down to earth and willing to share a beer and a table. outside of termas cancun on a friday night is a great place to meet non-pros. just be prepared to box up everything you know about gdps and sit it in a corner of your brain because its a whole new ballgame with true non-pros. be prepared for some rejection. some dirty looks. maybe even a no,no,no finger wave. get ready for a possible sexless date or even a double date like when a girl showed up at a friends apartment for their first date with her mother!!! I make that distinction because there are alot of quasi non-pros lurking around. quasi non-pros don't do Help or Pataca or even work in a termas. they may even have a regular job but they are 100% gold digger and will drain the money out of a guys bank account faster than you can say ,OI!! Like one poster said"regular girls are every monger's fantasy" and these girls know that and will use it for everything from school books to rent to even the occassional vacation.
There's no mystery to non-pros. if they like what they see they'll go out with you. after that its just a normal relationship.
I had three different long relationships with normal Brasilean family girls. They all seemed so nice and friendly in beginning, but at the end they were neurotic, obsessive and too jealous. Maybe they show their true nature only after they think that they have got guy hooked?
Of course big problem with these relationships was that I am typical member of this forum: whenever possible, I cheated them with prostitutes. So maybe that was reason why they got neurotic, obsessive and jealous ? (Actually, I had two of these long relationships same time, girls just were in different citys).
But seriously, my experience of these family girls is that however nice they are in beginning, they have Latino temper. When they get angry, there is no limit what they can do: property is broken, and they try to throw/hit you whatever they got in their hands, including kitchen knives.
But maybe it is just me ?? Everybody get girlfriend which they deserve.
I've been here in Rio for about 2 weeks, with another 2 weeks to go. I've been in an apt. in Laranjerias, and it's great. Across the street from my apt last Saturday night several of the neighborhood Samba Bands were playing for the local crowd. I was sharing a table with this guy, and we chatted a little in English and Portuguese. This girl was selling shirts for her band to raise proceeds, and in an attempt to get some play, I bought 2 for R$25. Of course I got no where with her.
About 10 minutes later I see this other girl dancing alone, and she wanted to share our table, no biggie. She spoke no English, but I managed to communicate pretty good. After about an hour of drinking beer in the rain, the music stopped, and it was time to go. I originally thought she might want to go for another drink at one of the local places. I needed to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] first, and didn't want to get busted doing it in public.
So once in the apt, I pissed, and we went into my room so I could change shoes. We kissed a little and the rest as they say, is history. It was a great 2 hours of sex. She was more freaky than I expected. She let me do anything I wanted. I think I was only successful with her was because I was able to communicate with her. I consider myself an average looking person, and it usually works for me. At no point did I appear to be a monger, as far as I can tell. Then again, you don't see too many mongers so far away from Help Central, generally speaking.
I mentioned in another thread that I was taking an intermediate Portuguese class for college credit. Well, for me it's a lot easier knowing how to conjugate verbs correctly than just listening to to cd's. So today, after class, I was hanging around with a few other students, when this woman in a nice fitting red dress walks up the stairs to the reception desk. I noticed her, but didn't think much about it.
After about 10 minutes she says to me that she remembers me. I was lost. Oh shit!!! So many things were running through my mind. She then started talking about shirts, and I was even more clueless. Come to find out, this was the same girl that blew me off on the previous Saturday. But now, she was treating me different, like a person. Well, she ended up giving me her number, and asking me out. Maybe she was tired, or in a mood before, but she had a different attitude today. It was nice.
I have been very successful with meeting local women, but on all occasions, away from the traditional mongering areas. I really believe that being able to communicate has a lot to do with it. And for me, it's not about any type of conquest. I just get tired of hanging at Help, TA, MP, and other similar places every night. In fact, for me, I've discovered something new this trip.
Am I looking for a long distance relationship, not really. Would I get involved with one, maybe. Like a few other have said elsewhere, Mr. E/Sperto, what you want is an honest woman, that's it. If you're in it to prove a point, well, more power to you. You'll only end up screwing some woman over and reinforcing whatever negative opinion that she has of men in general. And if you're really only learning Portuguese for that purpose, then you're missing out on so many other opportunities.
GDP's or non-pros, you pay for it one way or the other anyway.
ryjer
[QUOTE=Thanos]The fact is that the majority of gdps don't want a chance to start over. The lie that they hate what they do and they want to live normal lives is one of the biggest crocks of bs that the girls lay out for guys to believe. Any one of the pataca or Help girls could stop programa tomorrow and find a job working as a waitress or in Rio sul. But of course they won't because they are waiting for some rich american to shower them with money. They may tell guys that they want out but the reality of it is they are just using the guys and most guys fall for it figuring; poor brazilian girl. "just let me sprinkle some money on her and I'll have a hot brazilian nympho wife for the rest of my life. " a wise old brazilian once told me; " Putas never stop working. They just take a vacation. " they live like royalty. Sleep all day. Lay on the beach. Party all night. Get paid to have sex at a ridiculiously inflated rate in comparison to the normal brazilian income. Guys pay for their food, clothes, phones and in some cases their apartments and the homes their mothers live in as well as buy them cars, appliances and pay their way to fly all over the world. Why would they give that up to be a housewife? Only a very few select gdps really want to escape from brazil and half of them only want to come to america to do the same thing but only at a higher rate. There are at least 20 girls; probably more who are married to americans and every time they"visit their mothers" run straight to Help. I recently talked to some girls who are married to guys in the states. When the rumor floated around that america may waive visas for brazilians (doubt it) the first thing the girls said was that if it happened they would get divorced. Is it the money? The lifestyle? Or is it the fact that they don't really care for the guys in the first place. All of those elements play a factor.[/QUOTE]
WOW!! This is the best fucking post on this subject that I have ever read!! Outstanding job Thanos!! This should be mandatory reading for all mongers before they are granted visas to Brasil! I agree with you 100%. Once the girls get over the psychological hurdle of having sex with a stranger, they will never be the same again.
Ryjerrob,
Since you're staying in Laranjerias check out the Hide-away club. Full of non-pros and with great pizza.
[QUOTE=Bravo]WOW!! This is the best fucking post on this subject that I have ever read!! Outstanding job Thanos!! This should be mandatory reading for all mongers before they are granted visas to Brasil! I agree with you 100%. Once the girls get over the psychological hurdle of having sex with a stranger, they will never be the same again.[/QUOTE]
Honestly, I think it's the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever read. The one girl who loved to maintain to her clients that she just couldn't live without strange dick was Bia of Luomo. And she's currently pregnant by the first guy willing to marry her and take her off the program. Has she been out for the last year because she loves strange cock?
Guys who like to believe this type of shit are the same guys who love to tell you, "I don't even care to talk to women in the US anymore...They don't even want to talk to you, and I'm like, '*****, I fuck dime pieces in Brazil!!!'" Like Brazilian women are all cock-hungry sluts, and American women are all cold and materialistic.
But you paid for it, believe what you want to believe. Just try to keep it to the thread dedicated to professional girls, please.
[QUOTE=Jesuscola]Honestly, I think it's the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever read. The one girl who loved to maintain to her clients that she just couldn't live without strange dick was Bia of Luomo. And she's currently pregnant by the first guy willing to marry her and take her off the program. Has she been out for the last year because she loves strange cock?
Guys who like to believe this type of shit are the same guys who love to tell you, "I don't even care to talk to women in the US anymore...They don't even want to talk to you, and I'm like, '*****, I fuck dime pieces in Brazil!!!'" Like Brazilian women are all cock-hungry sluts, and American women are all cold and materialistic.
But you paid for it, believe what you want to believe. Just try to keep it to the thread dedicated to professional girls, please.[/QUOTE]If its bia the little blonde that you are talking about she's been in and out of Lluomos at least 4 times with different guys trying to take her off of the program.