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Service is consistently bad at CC. There are exceptions if you look hard enough and go through enough trial and error, but the culture of the place is such that the girls make little effort to earn their money in the room, and can be downright unpleasant. The indoctrination process for these girls must involve a lot of talk about how to get the man to give up money for drinks and go to the room, and none about the need to please the man with good service. In fact, it almost seems like the opposite is taught--make sure the girls rush through perfunctory service.
I used to go to CC often, but now I rarely do. AB has its own problems, but is way better than CC nowadays. Other places are also.
Irishman,
I have to disagree with you on CC, I think it has gotten much better over the last couple of months and overall is better to hang out at than AB. If you go during the week the girls are very laid back and will spend alot of time hanging out with you and not bug you about going upstairs. Plus at CC you don't get bugged like you do at AB from the ugly chicas asking you to buy them a drink. As far as the time upstairs, YMMV if you pick a girl based only on looks you'll probably have a bad experience but if you sit a watch the girls to see who goes up alot and how much time they spend you can get an idea of what is in store for you. Just sit back and enjoy the relaxed atmosphere and find a little cuttie that has been alone most of the night, then start talking to her and see how her personality is. But if you don't like the place luckily you still have AB, La Tropa, LC, Tropical, Miami, and Hong Kong just to name a few.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by outofthegame
[i]Irishman,
I have to disagree with you on CC, I think it has gotten much better over the last couple of months and overall is better to hang out at than AB. If you go during the week the girls are very laid back and will spend alot of time hanging out with you and not bug you about going upstairs. Plus at CC you don't get bugged like you do at AB from the ugly chicas asking you to buy them a drink. As far as the time upstairs, YMMV if you pick a girl based only on looks you'll probably have a bad experience but if you sit a watch the girls to see who goes up alot and how much time they spend you can get an idea of what is in store for you. Just sit back and enjoy the relaxed atmosphere and find a little cuttie that has been alone most of the night, then start talking to her and see how her personality is. But if you don't like the place luckily you still have AB, La Tropa, LC, Tropical, Miami, and Hong Kong just to name a few. [/i][/QUOTE]When do you go, though. I usually have to drive back that night, so I am there before midnight. It's been dead.
The last time I went to CC was a few months ago, but I was pretty content with the experience. First time was with Maritsa. Maybe 30 years, ok bod, but really alot of fun. She was dancing anf flirting, wearing pigtails and a schoolgirl skirt. We went up, took a shower together. Then bed and several positions. She kept saying "Aaaiieee Papi, que bueno!". It was a lot of fun! Took another shower together and left.
Nest time was with Roxanna. Very young and cute. Had a real "pouty, bad attitude" look, but when we went upstairs she was really nice. Small breast but tight boddy. Lots of laughs. Well worth it.
The last couple of times I went it was dead in there, and I didn't see anyone I recognized, so I went to Adelitas.
SoCalLans,
Sorry for the delayed response, but I would go after 10pm. Yes during the week it will seem like the place is dead but this is the best time to talk to the girls and spend time with them. The more time you spend talking to the girl or dancing the better experience you will have upstairs.
Hey Guys:
Hope CC is still the place, when I was there last year I bumped in to Danyella (sp) rated about a 5 in a previous post but gave me the ride I won't soon forget. Long straight brown hair. Next night Rubi hit on me and we went upostairs for some good action. Short petite maybe 90lbs excellent F/S. Already looking foward to next trip soon. Paid the supposed going rate of 50/10/1 since bar was crowded, but did not have to buy any drinks for either even though we talked a bit.
Had a bad experience Tuesday 11/4 with a girl from the Chicago Club. I don't remember her name, but she speaks perfect english. She said she was from Chula Vista / San Diego area. She is very agressive in trying to get you to the room right away. She promised an incredible time, and since her English was so good I thought there would be no misunderstanding in what I wanted. I explained it to her more than once.
She wanted $70 + room fee to go up. I felt ok with her so I agreed to $60. When we get to the room she ask for $20 more and promised a good time. I agreed to give her $5 more, and we proceed. After 15 seconds (literally) of CBJ she wants me to get on top. After about 20 seconds on top she is trying to rush me saying it is too big, and it hurts. I barely even had the tip in, and sometimes I was not in at all and she was waling. I left before finishing, and throw her clothes out in the hall as I left. I thought I should have complained to club management, but not sure of the protocol down there, and didn't want to bring any unwanted trouble to myself if she lied about something that happened in the room.
I have never had this issue before in my 7 trips to TJ. If you run into a Americanized latina who speaks perfect english, and is in a big rush to get you upstairs. Avoid her like the plague. Her body is not the greatest (especially nude) so it should not be that hard.
Bad,
Sorry to hear about your experience. Chicas reneging on what was discussed, doing the bare minimum (15 second cbj!), and rushing you are unfortunately all too common at Chicago and other clubs, although yours was an especially bad experience. Bad experiences happen to anyone who goes to TJ with any regularity, there is definitely hit and miss. From hard experience, I have learned to avoid any chica who is aggressive in quickly trying to get you to the room. This is a major warning sign.
I have not personally been subjected to upselling very often. But the way to avoid this is to always, always, pay after. Never pay before. If they insist upon payment up-front, walk out. Once she has the money, she has no incentive to perform well and she is also free to upsell.
While there are warning signs and being careful increases the odds of picking a good chica, there is no way to ever guarantee you are going to pick correctly. I agree with you that complaining to management is futile and getting into a dispute with a chica is not a good idea. My philosophy is to just accept the bad experiences as an inevitable part of the game, and use what you learn to refine your criteria for picking chicas. If the chica acts offensively or makes no effort, end it quickly, don't finish, save the energy and find another chica. There are always other chicas.
Hey Everyone,
Celeste is her name Bad4URHeart. She is bad news, stay away all of you. I got ripped off by her a few weeks ago on my 2nd trip to the zona. I was to embarrassed to post my mistakes in dealing with her. EVERYONE AVOID CELESTE. I first ran into here at La Tropa, I think, and then I ran into her at Las Chevales. The pickings were slim and she spoke English and the chicas weren't digging me being in a wheelchair. So even though she wasn't attractive I agreed. She was supposed to stay the night and being the idiot I am I payed in advance. She gave me a cheap CBJ and next I knew she was gone with all my money. I went back a few weeks later and when I walked in CC she came up to me right away. I just left. I have learned a valuable lesson I hope you don't repeat this.
Peace
Jefe
Wow, is there anything lower than stealing money from a guy in a wheelchair? Sounds like this con artist chick gets around, moving from one bar to another--La Tropa, Las Chavales, CC. Maybe, contrary to what I have thought, management does do something if there are enough complaints about a chica. Or, more likely, maybe she moves around to try to stay away from the angry guys she rips off at each establishment.
This chick is so brazen and the behavior so risky and short-sighted that I am guessing her behavior may be related to a recent topic on the Tijuana general thread--drugs. I'll bet a bucket of Coronas this chica is a drug user. Either she is doing this while on meth or another drug or is doing it to obtain money to feed a drug habit.
Thanks for the message Jefe. No need to be embarrassed. Live and learn.
By the way, what does Celeste look like? She isn't the English-speaking black chick who used to be at La Tropa is she?
Irishman,
Celeste is not a black chick, she is hispanic and doesn't look to bad clothed. She has smallish breasts and a little bit of a belly.
Celeste is her name. Beware. She looks like your average early 20s Mexican-American chic. Nothing particularly special about her, except for her language skills. I did however get the impression that she was on drugs shortly after I paid her in the room. It was a little late by then.
It's a shame too, as I was talking to her, I saw the best chica of the night standing not 10 feet away from me. I was tired of the walking back and forth between Chicago, Miami, the Alley, and Adelitas trying to find something I really like, so I settled for her. Next time, I'm going to be all about business, and I will skip Tuesday nights (slim pickins).
I did end the night with a nice SG, so it was not a total bust. Sin ropa, multiple positions, and some interest in our interactions (instead of that patented SG mindless stare). She was 'muy caliente' as the cab driver I rode with after called her. I wonder how he knew!!
This Celeste being on drugs may also help explain why she has moved among so many clubs in a short period of time. Although drugs are a reality in the Zona, the club owners will get rid of chicas doing drugs on their premises. The club owners have a good thing going, have nothing to gain from tolerating drug use, and they know the police will come down hard on them eventually if they do tolerate it.