Ouch, this is going to hurt
Rio is an average strip club with some average girls. When it was $200. The same as RP it was a decent alternative for straight up p4p.
I do know all about Kiev and I have provided alternatives. You are just too lazy to follow any of them. I suggest semi pro trolling at D'Lux.
The first thing you want to do it pay the UA village girls, hillybellies (what is this?) or the girls half your age in shopping malls is $300-$500 to fuck you. Who do you think it is plying the poles at Rio, but these aforementioned girls?
I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
Fuck a Ukrainian hooker in DC or London and save the airfare and apartment rental.
Dating and whoring are a wash money wise if you do it right. When dating turns into whoring or whoring into dating you are doing something wrong.
[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1263456]Trust The Knight to post in Time about his honest opinion of Cruiser, which I agree with, much in the same way when he stepped in to post about Liljoey, when he got all the hammering about RIO Club. Anyone who thinks RIO CLUB is NASTY, fair enough, its a matter of Opinion. Personally I just use it for Eye Candy. I did post some time back about other strip clubs including Tixiomut on the other side of the Dnipro, as well as other alternatives for fun in Kiev. But rather than going on & on about Rio Bashing or Rio Cheerleading, posters who claim that they know it all about Kiev, would do better by providing Alternatives to the Usual Tourist Places for the benefit of Newbies or for someone who wants a bit of change.
Tha last thing I want to do is fly my Ass all the way from London to chase some UA village girls, hillybellies on Kreschatick, or go round trying to chat up girls half my age in Shopping Malls or Stores.
It reminds me of that Film Breezy. I spent more than half of my life Chatting up & Shagging girls all over the world, and if I wanted to do this, I would rather do it at present right here in London, or Washington DC. Where all you need is a bit of BS to score with ladies, who have left the 18/30 Club.
Hence the need for me to head to KIEV, for Mongering, and not to play the Dating Game.
Simply not interested in it in EE countries. Mongering is cheaper for me than Dating In Kiev, or London for that matter.
One needs some sense of humor to be on here. How else can I now count Cruiser as my newly Acquired Best Chum, when he has just called me a NERD on a Revenge Mission? Revenge Of The Nerds, I ask you.
I'm pretty sure climax was paying $150 per hour per girl.
Sharing is caring.
Sorry CD, couldn't ease my Finger from the Reply Button, like you suggested yesterday.
Climaxnow. Got a 19 year old girl at US $150 / hour the first time, ok high for Kiev. Then he did post that the same girl came back with 2 other older girls with great performance skills for US$150 / hour. Reasonable. .
This is US$75 per girl / hour.
If he is to take a girl on a dinner & booze session, it will cost this much, or more in a good place in Kiev.
Besides one needs to learn the ropes & start some where. Crawl before you walk.
Now he has got an inner circle of few girls, which is not a bad start for a newbie, and a Referrals path in Kiev. The best way Mate, but I would keep it for myself, if I were you. Or do it on a Trade&Part Exchange with other members. The Pyramid Scheme
A P4P Swingers kind of Club. And when a Lady in the scheme gets to a cerain Age, male members can have her Mummfied & take her to Lavra Caves. Then old members & newbies can visit, buy candles & pay their respect.
Climaxnow might get further discounts from the girls, if he can play it cool, and tell them he wants to CLIMAXLATER.
To The Knight.
I am not worried about the Euro Footy 12. I am Bloody Worried about The UA getting into The EU, and I only have so many mongering years Left. .
Chao from a Sunny & Sexy London.[/QUOTE]
Ok, One More & Last Time.
[QUOTE=Cruiser D; 1263573]Rio is an average strip club with some average girls. When it was $200. The same as RP it was a decent alternative for straight up p4p.
I do know all about Kiev and I have provided alternatives. You are just too lazy to follow any of them. I suggest semi pro trolling at D'Lux.
The first thing you want to do it pay the UA village girls, hillybellies (what is this?) or the girls half your age in shopping malls is $300-$500 to fuck you. Who do you think it is plying the poles at Rio, but these aforementioned girls?
I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
Fuck a Ukrainian hooker in DC or London and save the airfare and apartment rental.
Dating and whoring are a wash money wise if you do it right. When dating turns into whoring or whoring into dating you are doing something wrong.[/QUOTE]1. I have never paid more than US$ 100 to a WG in KIEV, never have, Yes, Never Will? I don't know. Never say never in Mongering, just like In Politics.
Both are about Negotiations & Supply and Demand.
2. I go to Rio, as well as to other clubs to have a good penetrating Looky, and a Lap Dance & thats it, much in the same way I do in London, where I usually get in for Free.
I am a free man I can F go where I like, Right, and if my Pockets are deep enough, then I will blow as much money as I can afford, without getting a second mortgage, or needing to explain WHY.
3. I meant getting Freebie ladies in London & Washington DC, who are 35 plus club, is dead easy.
4. From day one on this thread, I had to find things out for myself, and follow my intution.
5 Even at the height of the swine flu thing epedemy as they called it in UA, when everyone was Running out of Kiev, I landed there.
Just got a Jab in london & off on a nearly empty Wizzair to Kiev, landing in an empty Kiev Airport. 6. Even seniors like Ukeboy& Gergiev advised not to go there.
In Fact Ukeboy posted here that he was leaving Kiev for a long Holiday.
Had a great time there & in River Palace where it I was JOJO, who was Fixing the Prices & the services required.
And it was me who was declining DFK& BBBJ.
The moral of all of this BS, is that its not me looking for Tips or Alternatives, but merely saying that Bashing or Cheerleading one Particular venue, is no good for newbies without posting the Alternatives to Kiev.
And one more time, I am only interested in Pros& semi Pros. Not interested in Freebies or being lectured about them, or how where to pick them up. .
Having said that, good to hear from you again. PAL
Believe it or not little joey is alright.
I know there's lots of controversy about LJ's posts, but I believe they're based on facts, credible and helpful to newbies with limited time and adequate resource. IMHO it's pretty amazing that he did what he did during his frequent short trips to Kiev. I mean he's new, doesn't speak the language and did so much during each of his trips.
[QUOTE=Liljoey; 1259158]Now you're being just plain silly. Do you really hold by the ridiculous conspiracy theory you just wrote in your last post? Your shrill tone does not bespeak any objectivity.
My reason for trying to expose the baselessness of your opinion about my reports is because I regard the info I have written to be a valuable resource to the members of the forum and I have taken pains to make it the most accurate information I could obtain by personal observation and experience. I have also always incorporated into my ongoing reports the opinions and insights of others who made good points, and served as a basis to correct something I had written previously. This is because I wanted there to be a reliable resource with accurate information available here. I am ready and have always been ready to defer to a fact or correct insight.
But you had no facts, just your arbitrary feeling that Cruiser Dave knows better than me what a pretty girl looks like. And that's ridiculous. You don't know me and you have not been to the club to be in a position to judge my opinions.
Therefore I felt you must be rebutted when you cast doubt on facts that I know to be true, not because I am thin skinned, which I am not, or a dolt, which I don't think I am, but because I want to preserve the truth for the benefit of the newbies and those readers trying to learn the ins and outs of mongering in Kiev. There are no commandments, just stuff I have discovered that worked for me, so I passed it on to others. There are mistakes one can make that I have learned the hard way can decrease one's success at a place like Rio, so I pass it on.
You want to invent another approach to snag hotties at Rio, be my guest, test it out and if you report it in good faith, I will try your recommendations too. It's the pussy that we can get that should be the goal of these reports, not tearing each other down. I'm sure you agree with at least that.[/QUOTE]