Need a guys opinion

So here is the thing. Generally when I am hunting for paid fun on escort websites, Tinder, Badoo and other online websites. I create a profile with an avatar or no pic.

Then when I start communicating, sooner or later the girl asks for a pic. Sometimes this happens even before we negotiate her gift and sometimes after. But 99% of the time she will ask for a pic. Sometimes they will send a pic first without me even asking. And I usually don't ask!

When they ask for a pic, I usually say "I don't send pics, but I am happy to do a video call so we can see each other, or we can meet at a public place like a cafe".

When I refuse to send my pic, 8 or 9/10 times they will refuse to meet or just stop communicating!

Here is what's going on in my mind when I refuse to send pics. When I am hunting for sex in exchange of money, my anonymity online is important to me. Until we actually decide to meet. I actually think 70% of the time, women would send fake pics for a variety of reasons - bait & switch, fake account created by agent, etc. 20% they probaby send their pics which are old and they look nothin like that now. I reckon only 10% of the time if not less, I would get a real & recent pic. Hence for me the only way I can be sure that they are who they claim to be is if we hop on video call. So why should I lose my anonymity for this BS? The other thing that's usually on my mind is. She is getting paid to spend time with me, we aren't going on a date so she isn't really in a position to be making all these demands!

So am I just being a paranoid dick for refusing to send my pic?

Would appreciate others POV on why it would be a good idea to give in to all their demands!

[QUOTE=Punter6996;2631847]So here is the thing. Generally when I am hunting for paid fun on escort websites, Tinder, Badoo and other online websites. I create a profile with an avatar or no pic.[/QUOTE]Usually send of an actor whom you resemble most and say you look 80 percent like that.

[QUOTE=Punter6996;2631847]So here is the thing. Generally when I am hunting for paid fun on escort websites, Tinder, Badoo and other online websites. I create a profile with an avatar or no pic.

Then when I start communicating, sooner or later the girl asks for a pic. Sometimes this happens even before we negotiate her gift and sometimes after. But 99% of the time she will ask for a pic. Sometimes they will send a pic first without me even asking. And I usually don't ask!

When they ask for a pic, I usually say "I don't send pics, but I am happy to do a video call so we can see each other, or we can meet at a public place like a cafe".

When I refuse to send my pic, 8 or 9/10 times they will refuse to meet or just stop communicating!

Here is what's going on in my mind when I refuse to send pics. When I am hunting for sex in exchange of money, my anonymity online is important to me. Until we actually decide to meet. I actually think 70% of the time, women would send fake pics for a variety of reasons - bait & switch, fake account created by agent, etc. 20% they probaby send their pics which are old and they look nothin like that now. I reckon only 10% of the time if not less, I would get a real & recent pic. Hence for me the only way I can be sure that they are who they claim to be is if we hop on video call. So why should I lose my anonymity for this BS? The other thing that's usually on my mind is. She is getting paid to spend time with me, we aren't going on a date so she isn't really in a position to be making all these demands!

So am I just being a paranoid dick for refusing to send my pic?

Would appreciate others POV on why it would be a good idea to give in to all their demands![/QUOTE]Think you are mixing apples and oranges here with escorts and non-pros. An escort won't ask for a pic. They fuck anyone that pays them. That's their job. But if you are on Tinder or Seeking Arrangements many of the girls are non pros or semi pros ie they will fuck you if you are non objectionable and preferably not a creep either. Their ask for a pic is completely reasonable is this guy someone I could fuck. I never put pics on sites (which could get hacked or targeted) but never have a problem sending to an individual girl. They really have no reason or ability to fuck you over at this level of engagement.

Also video call is a double edged sword. My pics are well chosen to make me look good. A video call and I am going to look a lot more geezerly than I actually am. So it would work against me.

I suggest you provide pics if you want to get the good girls. And if you are super paranoid about bait and switch as for a selfie that is not on the site. Or in extreme cases ask for a selfie with them doing a peace sign or a date or something that won't be found on random pics. (Avoid this if you can it's a bit needy).

Anyhow that is my advice. I don't do Tinder. Not even worth my time its either fat chicks or girls who just want to Sell you Snap or OnlyFans. Seeking Arrangement is where it's at in the US. There is a whole thread on Seeking under General and then Dating Agencies with lots of good discussion and tips.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2632032]Think you are mixing apples and oranges here with escorts and non-pros. An escort won't ask for a pic. They fuck anyone that pays them. That's their job. But if you are on Tinder or Seeking Arrangements many of the girls are non pros or semi pros ie they will fuck you if you are non objectionable and preferably not a creep either. Their ask for a pic is completely reasonable is this guy someone I could fuck. I never put pics on sites (which could get hacked or targeted) but never have a problem sending to an individual girl. They really have no reason or ability to fuck you over at this level of engagement.

Also video call is a double edged sword. My pics are well chosen to make me look good. A video call and I am going to look a lot more geezerly than I actually am. So it would work against me.

I suggest you provide pics if you want to get the good girls. And if you are super paranoid about bait and switch as for a selfie that is not on the site. Or in extreme cases ask for a selfie with them doing a peace sign or a date or something that won't be found on random pics. (Avoid this if you can it's a bit needy).

Anyhow that is my advice. I don't do Tinder. Not even worth my time its either fat chicks or girls who just want to Sell you Snap or OnlyFans. Seeking Arrangement is where it's at in the US. There is a whole thread on Seeking under General and then Dating Agencies with lots of good discussion and tips.[/QUOTE]I was actually referring to the escorts that 'pretend' to be non-pros, assuming that they are too smart and that all men were born yesterday. Where I lived for a few months they have a local craigslist type of website where you an post anonymous ads under the Intimate encounters / Material sponser. I see several wannabe non-pros that write stuff like "Usually I don't do this / I have never done this before / If you want escort stay away. But due to financial difficulties I will meet a gentleman. " Every week she will advertise herself from a certain nationality mention how much she wants in order to consider a meet. The next week she will advertise herself from a different nationality, state a difference price, change a few words here and there. Rinse and repeat. What she never changed was her Whatsapp number. Once I sent her a message saying "Wow last week you were Iranian and this week you are from Tatar, how many sisters do you have? With a smiley She replied back saying. Aren't you a smart one? Most men would never catch on to that and then swiftly went on to block me. There are women on Badoo, Tinder and ther dating sites that have 4/5 of their pictures in lingerie, swimsuit, revealing ample cleavage or sucking on a cherry or strawberry! Are you suggesting these women are non-pros or semi-pros. Rofl. Almost all dating sites these days are infested with escorts pretending to be non-pro or agencies setting up fake accounts.

However its worth noting that when I book an escort from a verified agency or dispatcher, I never get asked for pic.

Yes I am converned about about bait and switch because that wastes my time but what I am more concerned about is that I am really big on privacy and anonymity. Thats one of the reasons I don't keep money in the bank anymore and invest on crypto. And I don't like handing control and power over to a woman expecially when I am ready to pay for her time. Who the fuck does she she think she is? Is she my GF or wife? Is she going to give me a discount if I look good and have chiselled abs! No.

I certainly understand why they may want pics:

Maybe they want to determine which nationality you are and then jack up prices accordingly.

Maybe they want to see if you are butt ugly, overweight and creepy or look like a serial killer and they are concerned with their safety.

Maybe she wants to see if you are already somone they know from work, etc. Obviously most non-pros prefer to keep this side of their life discreet.

I am sure there maybe a few more valid reasons.

But consider the following circumstances, where you send her a pic and she thinks you are butt ugly and creepy or she actually knows you from xyz.

How likely do you you think she is going to send her pic through and then say she is not interested. If she hasn't sent her pic already, she is more like to just block you or say not interested IMHO.

But what just happened here. I have revealed myself and she hasn't. So she had more control over the interaction. In the unlikely screnario that our paths collide in a public place, if she has a good memory she would remember that this is the guy who wanted to fuck me! But I wouldn't know anything. I am not really worried about her using my identity to screw my life because its not like I am a suburban dad with a wife and 3 kids and a reputation with uphold.

Whereas, on a video call you end up seeing each other. Sure you may not look as good as in your pics and vice versa and either party may refuse to meet. But if your paths collide somewhere, it would be akward for both of us. At the end of the day I have far more respect for a women who does a video and then chooses to refuse me for whatsoever reason, rather than someone who doesn't want to do a video call and insist you send photo. Dunno if that makes sense.

FYI, I do have my real pic on Badoo back several years ago when it was really used as a dating site. Nowadays its just filled with bots, non-pro wannabes and agents. Not sure how Secret Arrangements is like. I didn't upgrade because last time I checked there was only like 4 women in my city who was active within the last month. However it wouldn't surprise me to find some escorts pretending to non-pro there.

I never faced this issue pre-covid era, because 99% of the women I would pick up were from bars and then they would end up referring their friends and therefore build my network. However now in this era of covid and travel restricitions my options are rather limited.

FYI, I consider myself average looking, but not in the best shape of my life! However any woman that I have spent time with. Have never refused a repeat session on my request. Some even propose a repeat session themselves. I think its because I treat them with respect and like enjoy their company instead of just treating them as my property! Not sure if that info is relevant. OK I am done ranting. LOL.

[QUOTE=Punter6996;2632454]I was actually referring to the escorts that 'pretend' to be non-pros, assuming that they are too smart and that all men were born yesterday. Where I lived for a few months they have a local craigslist type of website where you an post anonymous ads under the Intimate encounters / Material sponser. I see several wannabe non-pros that write stuff like "Usually I don't do this / I have never done this before / If you want escort stay away. But due to financial difficulties I will meet a gentleman. " Every week she will advertise herself from a certain nationality mention how much she wants in order to consider a meet. The next week she will advertise herself from a different nationality, state a difference price, change a few words here and there. Rinse and repeat. What she never changed was her Whatsapp number. Once I sent her a message saying "Wow last week you were Iranian and this week you are from Tatar, how many spick up were from bars and then they would end up referring their friends and therefore build my network. However now in this era of covid and travel restrictions my options are rather limited.

FYI, I consider myself average looking, but not in the best shape of my life! However any woman that I have spent time with. Have never refused a repeat session on my request. Some even propose a repeat session themselves. I think its because I treat them with respect and like enjoy their company instead of just treating them as my property! Not sure if that info is relevant. OK I am done ranting. LOL.[/QUOTE]To me, Tinder and badoo are scams. They are marketed as places where you can find a woman for sex in general. It is BS. Think out of the box. Are the Tinder, badoo profiles real. Is there anything real about those apps. I don't think so. People who send me likes are either transexuals, golddiggers looking for papers, psychos, ugly women. You will never find a good pro or a semi good pro on tinder or badoo.

When you go to a FKK club in Germany, Spain, Thailand, Taiwan, China, what you get is what you see. I think that dating websites are useless. Men are lured and fooled by attractive photos on dating websites. That's all. There is nothing behind it. We don't know if the women are real. We don't know if they didn't take the picture 10 years ago. They may have been gone or dead now. You don't know if when you talk to a woman, she is the woman of the picture. Etc. Etc.

Pros need to work and can't rely on dating websites. If they pick up men in nightclubs, street, classified ads, it is straight forward and much better for them.

Bro,

I have pics on my Tinder profile. I hardly get any matches and you mentioned about discussing sharing pictures?

How do you reach that stage?

Do you mention anything specifically in your profile to target Pros? What must be done to have that conversation. I am open to share pics, so.

[QUOTE=Punter6996;2631847]So here is the thing. Generally when I am hunting for paid fun on escort websites, Tinder, Badoo and other online websites. I create a profile with an avatar or no pic.

Then when I start communicating, sooner or later the girl asks for a pic. Sometimes this happens even before we negotiate her gift and sometimes after. But 99% of the time she will ask for a pic. Sometimes they will send a pic first without me even asking. And I usually don't ask!

When they ask for a pic, I usually say "I don't send pics, but I am happy to do a video call so we can see each other, or we can meet at a public place like a cafe".

When I refuse to send my pic, 8 or 9/10 times they will refuse to meet or just stop communicating!

Here is what's going on in my mind when I refuse to send pics. When I am hunting for sex in exchange of money, my anonymity online is important to me. Until we actually decide to meet. I actually think 70% of the time, women would send fake pics for a variety of reasons - bait & switch, fake account created by agent, etc. 20% they probably send their pics which are old and they look nothing like that now. I reckon only 10% of the time if not less, I would get a real & recent pic. Hence for me the only way I can be sure that they are who they claim to be is if we hop on video call. So why should I lose my anonymity for this BS? The other thing that's usually on my mind is. She is getting paid to spend time with me, we aren't going on a date so she isn't really in a position to be making all these demands!

So am I just being a paranoid dick for refusing to send my pic?

Would appreciate others POV on why it would be a good idea to give in to all their demands![/QUOTE]

I want to organize a trip in a location where I can find beautiful black women. I've tried to view some pictures of girls in Kenya, Nigeria and Ghana using Tinder, Badoo etc.

I have to admit that I didn't see any girl that I like. To be transparent I like dark black, athletic body, beautiful tits and soft face lines. For example I attach some pictures from internet.

That's why I decided to ask the opinion of the experts.

Thanks to who would like to contribute to this post!

[QUOTE=BreakGian;2791351]I want to organize a trip in a location where I can find beautiful black women. I've tried to view some pictures of girls in Kenya, Nigeria and Ghana using Tinder, Badoo etc.

I have to admit that I didn't see any girl that I like. To be transparent I like dark black, athletic body, beautiful tits and soft face lines. For example I attach some pictures from internet.

That's why I decided to ask the opinion of the experts.

Thanks to who would like to contribute to this post![/QUOTE]Those photos you posted are like the top 1% of african girls. You need to be more reasonable.

[QUOTE=BroComplex;2808929]Those photos you posted are like the top 1% of african girls. You need to be more reasonable.[/QUOTE]Agreed but spent time in Uganda this year and was surprised how beautiful some of the woman were. Super polite too.

[QUOTE=Jdweeb;2850290]Agreed but spent time in Uganda this year and was surprised how beautiful some of the woman were. Super polite too.[/QUOTE]You can find beautiful, sexy women in any country. But in many countries, such women don't do P4P, and they aren't available for guys in this forum.

If you are going to be mongering and not just looking, then you need to find about the P4P women in the country, rather than just any women.