Catire-very well reasoned post! Thanks.
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Catire-very well reasoned post! Thanks.
you guys are worried about herpes, i am worried about HIV, herpes you can live with, but hiv will kill you. i posted a question about anyone knowing about the availability of rapid hiv test kits in brazil and i received no response. think about dying before you ***** about herpes. i an now on a quest to find rapid hiv tests in rio. if and when i find them i will post back the prices and exactly where to buy them.
>> I was given some frightening stats about herpes and warts in the American adult film actor industry by a friend who has many contacts in it.
Excellent post. I've always suspected that a certain psychology accompanies infection with the pemanent STDs like herpes and warts. First, shock, then, resignation with having become infected, and then finally resignation with the certainty of infecting other people. You can see ZoomZoom moving right along the spectrum, can't you? Of course, in the extreme, there is the pathology of intentionally infecting other people, and I believe most people don't reach that extreme.
Now think about it, suppose you started working in the adult porn industry, and after a few months, you became infected with these two STDs. How long before your attitude would be, "Hey, everyone in this business either has it or is going to get it, the person I'm working with next knows the risks, and besides, it's not that big a deal, once in a while I have a flareup and I take some pills to make it better. It's not like I'm going to die".
I think this is a much more common mentality than everyone is letting on, and not just in the adult movie industry.
I will just add to my last that I once did a pro in Brazil without a condom, and I now feel very lucky to have not caught anything. (I just have a lot of trouble feeling anything with my dick wrapped in an inner tube). I also slept with a non-pro without using it, but I was not too worried about that one. I wasn't worried about making kids because I've had a vasectomy.
As long as we're baring our souls today...
So I added a few items to my luggage for my trip to Rio including an electron microscope, lie detector, body condom, vat "o" rubbing alcohol, and a time travel machine so I can go back to the past and stop myself from hanging out with that beach\terma\help girl. While I have never contracted an STD, the point is that you can never be too sure about the girls if you do hobby. Education and the practice of that knowledge is the safest bet. Thank you for the informative posts...
Naivete and STD denial syndrome...
Anyone who has been whoring in third world countries (eg. Brazil) for many years and/or over sustained periods of multiple-partners activities is either lying, denying or incredibly lucky if he has not contracted at least one STD once...
Bordello, Boliche and termas girls (unless they're fresh newbies) are more than 60% likely to have warts and herpes plus chlamydia...that's why Daty/DFK at termas or asian' MP's is really self-destructive behaviour.
Also if a girl has been working for an escort service for more than a few weeks and does duplas or group sex, she's for sure got something or sveral things her lovin will pass on forever! DUH!
The HIV+ rate in the termas girls is certainly a measurable percentage (ie. 10% or more)...I remember seeing club girls I never chose (especially the kind who do 2 or more "dates" per day/night) in Sampa and then on a return trip a year or two later being told that so-and-so has Aids now and was let go by the club...but still works when she can!!!
With Herpes, there are some signs (and odours) both in the mouth and genitals but HIV can and most often does go undetected/unsuspected for 9-10 months to 4-7 yrs.
Girls who have had from dozens to scores or even hundreds of recent sex partners--esp. teenaged local men and 40 plus yr. old foreigners--are basically STD vector path purveyors.
Homo Aids had one of its first vectors via the gays bathhouses in SF in the early 80's...Brazil had the highest hetero Aids rates in the western world in the late 80's thru mid-90's...just as in Thailand, everyone in Brazil has a close friend or relative whom they visited while s/he was expiring from Aids.
Now perhaps you can see why local everyday women treat sex tourists with such fear and loathing--because it is the 3 bagger termas/brothel types who are themselves the biggest STD vector agents passing thru Brazil/Thailand/China/Russia, etc.
The biznizman/male mongers are the analogues/vector buddies of African truck drivers...
Also, add in anal sex, BBJ's and rimming with girls who do 2-10 customers per day at termas or Asian MP's and you have the formula for a burgeoning
cheongster infection rate...
Finally, those who end up HIV positive usuallly first contract herpes, syphillis, gono, etc. and then repeat the same behaviours...et voila AIDS arrives in an already underpowered immune system.
Some guys thought I was a little nuts when I said that in Sampa I had a gyno nurse advance scout for me but having survived as a monger for some 30 yrs now and having picked up but been cured of 3-4 STD's (plus amoebic dysentary, crabs, Dengue, etc.) along the way, I usually advertise weeks ahead of my trips for university girls and then vet them and send them off to clinics which they can't bribe for tests before I engage in any wick dipping, DFK/Daty or receive BBJ/BLS/AR.
For travelling companion chicas I plan to hang out with--especially my favourite 2-3 girl live-in combos--I don't mind forkin over $1-$200 USD per head for tests...I would have to say that even after plenty of pre-screening, 2 out of 5 girls usually flunk these rigorous health exams.
I won't use any names here but the BA/Rio sexual gourmands who have been entertaining us with their recent FS festas & blow-by-blow sexual swathe cutting are quite likely to soon discover (or have already and refuse to fess up as so many people know them in real life already) the perils of P4P!!!!
So, when I read all those posts about vaginal juices flowing across the eyes/nose/throats of the writers, I shiver with appalled sympathy--for the girlfriends and wives back home!
Hhomeboy
Though I find your post a bit over the top I won't argue with your basic points and message at all.
There are a couple of things I will challenge, however:
"Finally, those who end up HIV positive usuallly first contract herpes, syphillis, gono, etc. and then repeat the same behaviours...et voila AIDS arrives in an already underpowered immune system."
The immune system is in no way undermined by the other STD's. In the case of herpes, it is actually even stronger, which is why subsequent outbreaks after the first are less severe and their severity and occurrence diminish with time. That's because the body fights it much more quickly and effectively. It just can't get itself rid of the virus.
Medical science says the odds of catching HIV double with the existence of the other STD's - and this is true - because in their manifestations, nothing with the genital area is at it should be, glands are swelled up, sores, etc- this is all conducive to easier passage of HIV. If you actively have an STD or herpes in the middl e of an oubreak - your risk of catching HIV becomes much much higher. Double.
However, once the STD is cured via antiobitics or in the case of herpes you are not in the midst of an outbreak - then they are not a factor in HIV transmission or catching in any way.
You also talk about odors being present in the case of herpes.
I haven't seen anything in any medical literature to justify that claim.
Enough of this disease crap!!! What's the weather like. More important. Is there an abundance of beauty there now? i.e. 1-10
Can anyone give some information about non-pro clubs and in particular ones that are near the Roiss. Are they busy all week long, what kind of music do they play, what are the chances of scoring with a local bird bearing in mind that my Portugese is limited to asking where the beach is, entry and drink prices,etc.
Can someone also tell me which nights of the week are best in Help.
By the way zoomzoom, its hard to imagine someone adopting a more selfish narrow minded attitude. I m guessing that youre not over furnished in the brain department. Dont know how you can sleep at night mate.
Also, Saint, in future can I suggest that you endeavour to concentrate on the provision of facts rather than using the message board as a forum to massage your apparantly already inflated ego.
That aside the information on this site is most helpful and entertaining.
Thanks
I'd like to add a few comments to the STD discussion that some of you might find helpful. I'm not an M.D., but I have tried to inform myself as well as reasonably possible. I admit I might be mistaken in some of the points I'm about to list. However, I have pretty thick skin, so feel free to post any followup comments to the points below either in the form of a flame or in the form of constructive criticism. I have tried to limit my comments to things some of you might actually find actionable in you own mongering activities.
1.- I know that contracting HIV is a very real possibility given the number of girls I have sex with. If I get HIV, I want to know it ASAP so that I can begin a treatment that can delay the development of AIDS for as long as possible. To that end, I get tested for HIV frequently. Unfortunately, most of the tests available in our local communities is the ELYSA HIV test, which is the one that doctors believe will indicate if you have contracted HIV 3 to 6 months ago, but will supposedly return a result of negative even if you have contracted HIV within the last 3 months or so. The "best" HIV test our there, one that supposedly indicates if that you have contracted AIDS within 2 weeks of actually contracting it is the PCRDNA HIV test. Unfotunately, it is difficult to find clinics that perform this test. Sadly, some doctors I talked to didn't even know about the different types of tests !! The best way I have found to get tested using the PCRDNA test is though the porn industry's medical organization: AIM (http://aim-med.org). They work with clinics across the US that will draw your blood and send it to AIM for testing (http://aim-med.org/testbymail.html). It's expensive and you have to give yor real name (so future politicians who don't want to be labeled as former porn stars might not want to do this).
2.- If you are going to have condomless sex, some people believe that lubricants help for two reasons: A.- they reduce the possibility of any skin breaks during sex that might expose partners to each other's blood. B.- It is believed that some lubricants will break down the cell walls of some of the diseases out there. I remember reading that there was some circumstantial evidence that Astroglide had that effect, but I can't refer you to a specific study. So take this as only a rumor. My conclusion is that lubricants might help reduce the risk of transmission but they are unlikely to increase the risk of transmission, so I use them in the rare occassions when I have condomless sex. And I always use a condom with working girls.
3.- I used to have a girlfriend that had frequent yeast infections. We had condomless sex and when she had a yeast infection, I would get something called "Balanitis" which I guess is the male equivalent of a yeast infection. Basically the head of your penis breaks out. It will go away rather easily and permanently with an antifungal cream. When I was dating this girl, I went to a doctor and he suggested that after sex I apply a pretty good amount of the over-the-counter Lotrimin AF cream (the one used for athlete's foot) to my penis to kill any bacterial infection. That did the trick! Once I started doing that after sex with my girlfriend I never got Balanitis again. About a year after breaking up with my girlfriend I had sex with an escort using a condom, but after sex I saw the tell-tale signs of a yeast infection on her. I washed myself thoroughly but didn't have any antifungal cream to apply. Sure enough, even though I had used a condom, I got a Balanitis infection a few days later. Now I always carry Lotrimin AF with me and apply it to my penis after sex, even if I've used a condom.
I hope the some of you find the points above helpful.
Ha, ha Thunderthust. If you think I have a big ego so be it. I could care less what you or others think. I'll post my experiences as they happen and how I want to write them. Yeah...it's good to be the King...
My advice is to not get medical advice from strangers on a message board. Go to factual medical sites or talk to your personal physician.
However, I can tell you that there are a lot of dudes having unprotected sex down in South America. With these gorgeous girls it's easy to get carried away. I've never contracted an STD in my life and that is after sleeping with literally hundreds of girls (girlfriends, affairs, providers, etc.). I've been really lucky so far and I hope I never come down with anything.
I get an HIV test regularly along with the other STD checks. The thing that guys have to remember is that if these girls are having unprotected sex with you they are with other dudes too. Don't be so naive to believe that you are the ONLY one. I try to be careful on each trip but I've "slipped up" each trip. Yeah...it's idiotic. I'm gonna be more careful.
I just talked to this provider girl I know. The scarey thing is that her friend is a provider in Sao Paulo and just discovered that she has contracted HIV. I think that many posters are correct that often times we shut our eyes and don't want to listen or think about the risks of STD's and HIV. It's not smart.
Most of the girls are clueless about how STD's are spread. Many girls in S.A. are willing to have unprotected sex me because they tell me that I am "clean" and healthy. I'm sure if they are offering it to me then they are offering to other "clean and healthy" looking dudes. I can tell you that there are probably a high percentage of girls that are selectively offering unprotected sex. During my 5 week trip in December/January I'd say that probably 15%-20% of the girls I saw I could have had unprotected sex and again.....3 of them asked me to get them pregnant.
All this talk might be a wake up call. Stay safe out there guys.
Saint
I've been reading this board with great interest, particulary since I'm going to be one of the revelers in Rio for Carnaval.
Quick question: Is there some kind of sexual antiseptic lubricant out there? You'd think with all the worry about STDs, and with technology the way it is, that someone out there would market this kind of thing
If anyone has any suggestions, I'd greatly appreciate it. Muito obrigado!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lookr
[i]I've been reading this board with great interest, particulary since I'm going to be one of the revelers in Rio for Carnaval.
Quick question: Is there some kind of sexual antiseptic lubricant out there? You'd think with all the worry about STDs, and with technology the way it is, that someone out there would market this kind of thing
If anyone has any suggestions, I'd greatly appreciate it. Muito obrigado! [/i][/QUOTE]
Try a simple water based lubricant.
The problem with antiseptics is that they irritate the skin, and make more susceptible to breaks, specially for women. Breaks in the skin are an entrance for viruses and bacteria. The skin itself is a shile dagainst diseases.
Ironically, one of the best available antiseptics that will even kill the HIV virus is baby shampoo which contains a chemical(the name scapes me right now) that breaks down the chemical shell of the virus.
Regular soap will also kill viruses/bacteria, so taking a shower before the fun can go a long way towards reducing the risks of contracting something. Of course, wearing a condom is your best bet to stay safe.
Many thanks, criminal (seems strange to call someone that, heh).
Yep, the same chemical (benzylkonium chloride?) is also found in baby wipes.
I can imagine the fun to be had with the Customs Agent as I try to explain I'm in Rio for ten days, and he finds both condoms and baby wipes in my luggage. "Uhhh," I stammer, "I'm looking for the ultimate GFE?" :-)))
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lookr
[i]Many thanks, criminal (seems strange to call someone that, heh).
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Hey lookr,
I am not a criminal, just making fun of my illegally elected president that did not win the majority vote, yetl stole the presidency. But enough of politics.
Have fun in Rio, Help Disco should be packed with gorgeous pussy. And the best therma in Rio that I experienced was Luomos (bbbj is standard if you're not sick of course, the girls will check your dick for sores and whatever. Also, in Rio you can get jailed for transmitting a venereal disease if you know you have it. I know of Johns that were refused service, and the police called at the same time.)
Post a report, I plan to go to Sao paulo as the pickings are greater there. take a look at www.contatos.com.br for the sao paulo delicacies.
Damn , I wish I was in Rio! maybe after I go to Buenos Aires.