Stop the World (and Oase and Palace)
Gentlemen,
Many thanks to Ortos for his as usual excellent inspection report on the Roundabout and up the Road. As well as being very informative, few reading here may understand that this is in itself a momentus post on ISG.
Let me explain.
I've pulled some lines from Ortos' post and as you will see the common element is Ortos' comparisons with FKK performances and shall I say knowing him and his tastes - raving about them. :-)) Ortos is a legend on ISG and other forums for his near encyclopaedic knowledge and love for the German FKK scene. His posts are always looked at with great interest as much for their detailed and thorough rundowns on clubs and girls as for the lovely style. Top FKK sessions are what Ortos uses as a measure.
For Ortos to tell us that he has met "Ortos FKK quality sessions" or exceeded that gold standard on two nights running in Larnaca is extraordinary praise indeed !
"So finally I see and realize the benefits of the LT (over-night sessions) vs the ST (short sessions) of FKKs....... "
"Oh, will I ever be able to save enough money now to get back to Germany? I mean the local talent is so good, it is tough to fly away right now… "
FKK thread posters will not be able to believe this coming from such an authority on the matter.
Congratulations Ortos. Sad to say that a) I wasn't there to share, and b) it will be awhile before I can make it again, but I will. Great report and awesome result. As we all know, YMMV, but I am chomping at the bit to stroll the roundabout once again and meet up with Ortos for another inspection tour. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Ortos], except for one small dilemma: You see, I had seen a great young Ukrainian two weeks earlier at Dantella, who delivered a near-FKK quality GFE session for the whole night! .....
Well, I went back upstairs with Jana for over an hour and half we kissed and light petted, whittling away the time until 03.00. What followed in the hotel room was, as predicted, even better than the first round. So finally I see and realize the benefits of the LT (over-night sessions) vs the ST (short sessions) of FKKs.......
As I watched her dance, I thought: this is one Mother I’d definitely Like to Fuck! I sealed the deal with 4 drinks (CYP44 to the club) and picked her up outside at 03.10. I took her back to the hotel and it was absolute bliss! A fantastic long 3+ hours for the first pop: no holds barred, everything I wanted and she performed just as good as some of the best FKK girls I’ve seen! We slept until 09.40 and then a quicker second session and pop! It was funny, I never explained anything to her about the ground rules, she just knew that 30 pounds overnight meant 2 pops. It was so good, I gave her an extra tenner, thinking I will be back to see her. So now I have two Ukrainian girlfriends that satisfy my every desire, one on either side of the roundabout!
Oh, will I ever be able to save enough money now to get back to Germany? I mean the local talent is so good, it is tough to fly away right now…
Hoping this helps, and waiting for Excess and any other guys to come over and join the fun…
Ortos[/QUOTE]
Excessive praise, I think!
excess,
well, gee, i am a bit speechless here from your most flattering remarks! i don't think i am much of a legend, just an obsessed sex fanatic, who spends way too much time dreaming and posting things...but thanks again for the kind words...
just to put things in perspective: i still feel that overall the fkks in germany offer way better quality and performance standards. however, it is exactly because i learned my hobby in germany, i am better equipped to make good session partner decisions here in cyprus. i mean that i learned how to "read" girls and assess their mannerisms to decide (with pretty good results) who will give me the gfe-type session i seek, and who might be a flop. sure it is not 100% certain, and i do foul up from time to time, but at least these last few times i have been able to find the diamond's in the rough. i hit the jackpot twice...
now i am still an fkk man, but i am now aware that i can get what i seek just down the road too...
i would also stress that there are alot of dud-sessions in larnaca as well, so if you don't employ good selection techniques, you may well end up spending money on a girl who does not deliver. i have bought a few drinks for girls who raised red flags in my eyes, so i aborted only 11-quid lighter and moved on to better pastures...
ortos
A lazy man's report on Larnanca
Yes - I have been a bit lazy (and will plead a bit busy too) to provide my short update on my last visit to lovely Larnaca with my partner in lust - Ortos.
Ortos has covered the trip and his subsequent re-checks very well and thoroughly. For my part, I concentrated on my Nicosia club update and news flashes while on the ground which are reported in the Nicosia thread. I have had several PM's on visiting Cyprus from members which I tried to answer as honestly as I could. It would appear that interest in Cyprus from "old hands and new hands" is building.
Meeting up with Ortos was as always a pleasure. Caught up with things in general and of course with Ortos leading the way we enjoyed our now traditional very fine Cypriot dinner together before our assault on the clubs. Very civilized and relaxing way to get ready for an extended night of wandering, interviewing and f**king.
Please refer to Ortos' posts for details, I will limit myself to a quick review of the environment and the ladies that I spent time with.
La Mammounia was the leading club from an ambiance, ladies and no-nonense form the waiters - particularly George. I pre-empted the price discussion after excusing myself from Ortos at the bar and the black haired Upseller who was demanding CYP 50 for afternoon sessions as commented on by Ortos. In my conversation with George, I addressed him as an old friend and said "Well George, pricing for the club still the same - CYP 44 for overnight?"
A slight hesitation from George, as he obviously felt that he didn't remember me, would perhaps like to ask for a bit more being Saturday and all - but then said "Yes". So got that one out of the way and george remembered us the next night and our several visits to check the stock.
In any event, we were keen to check out High Heels and the other roundabout clubs - particulary - Barbies and Dantella. Long story well covered by Ortos, we decided to stay for awhile at High Heels. Nearly did not as the waiter was playing all sorts of games with pricing - refused to come across with it, won't talk pricing until after midnight blah, blah. I became very pissed off with his behaviour.
In any event after Ortos and I had conducted a number of interviews, interspersed with trips to other clubs - I settled on a very good looking/very good bodied belorus - Svetlana. Interviewed very well and good interaction. Eventually back to the hotel and a pretty good and lengthy first round not earthshaking but OK - the nice body held up well under the lights and probing. Ortos reports that she has since then shed a couple of kilos and looking even better.
Rather than going for a second round, I suggested that we sleep for a couple of hours first. No disagreement. Woke up about 7:00 and was ready to go. Svetlana on the other hand was dead to the world. Spent an hour stroking but again she was gone. Overnights are not strictly speaking sleep time - it is work time when out with a girl from the clubs, IMHO. When I am working, I don't sleep. I do like some sleep but what with the annoying waiter and little Excess ready to go, I became somewhat frustrated with the sleeping beauty.
So, I got up and showered and got dressed.
This now being about 8:30. I then got Svetlana awake and told her that she should get dressed and go now. She slowly sensed that I was annoyed, said that she would be awake at 10:30 and ready for another round.
I told her thanks but no thanks - I was up and she could leave - now.
She became a bit concerned as she hadn't been paid and probably was wondering if she would be. Got dressed and I gave her her CYP 30 plus CYP 5 for taxi fare. Bye, Bye Svetlana.
Perhaps was a bit hasty, but I wan't in the mood to dick around. Had a very nice stroll on the beach and down the road - Svetlana took a taxi back to her apartment. And notched up a note to myself not to look for a Belorus again in Larnaca except in exceptional circumstances - two "poor" performances in Larnanca and both by Belorussians.
On to the next one.
Next evening, we decided after much investigation to partake at La Mammounia. I selected eventually, a 28-32-ish Russian, Elena. Nicely put together, sleek and as Ortos put it – polished and professional. Interviews went well on our first visit and completed on the couches on the second visit. No issues with club prices with George and the other waiters. Many of the girls now beginning to recognize the gang of two.
A small altercation between Ortos and Elena who reacted abruptly to Ortos calling her by another girl’s name. Ho Hum.
After Svetlana, I was ready for a more professional approach to service and this is what I got with Elena. She told me that she had worked previously in Beirut and had a trip to Turkey as well as Cyprus. Good service levels, very willing and ready to meet most requests. For the first time in Cyprus, as we were getting settled on the sheets after showering I was asked for money “up front”. Surprised me and she was insisting on it. I got up put the cash on the top of the TV and said in a nice way, there it is and I am surprised and will expect that service levels will be forthcoming and to my satisfaction. They were and they were.
She made no move to retrieve the money then or up to the time before leaving. She told me that earlier that week, one of the La Mammounia girls had been taken out to Napa – been done there and then the guy left without paying. She had to make her way back to Larnaca and with no money for the night – seems that he also frightened her by his behaviour. Interestingly, Ortos had heard the same story from his bride of the night – a lovely busty girl who was very sensual. The girls at the club were a bit unnerved the behaviour of a "person" who spolis it somewhat for the rest of us. Subsequently, never encountered a similar request for up front money.
Elena and I proceeded as if nothing had been mentioned about money and I received a very polished performance with very good service levels and positional play. Excelent BBBJ work as well as DATY to complment. After some rest, embarked on round two – this became rather wild as Elena became increasing vocal – with loud urgings to do her in various positions and to repeatedly “fuck the b****”, her words not mine. Heavy duty doggy was but one element of the stirring performance. Finished up with two very sweaty and exhausted performers and this time ready for some sleep after a shower. I had been more than a bit concerned about the noise levels coming from the room and hoped that it didn't disturb the neighbours.
As I said, I was looking for a very polished and professional night after Svetlana and I got it 100%. In the morning about 9:30 we were awoken by a call form Ortos’ bride on Elena’s phone to announce that she was getting ready to leave. Of course, Elena was then ready to accompany her back to their lodgings. I told her to stay and get ready for a further round. She told the caller that she would stay.
She then asked that she would stay until the later afternoon and how much extra would I pay her? Not an unreasonable question, I thought for an extended afternoon session starting right then. However, I didn’t want to spend that time as I wished to catch up with Ortos and we were due to drive up to Nicosia later in a few hours. So, I declined.
Overall, another great Larnaca Lark with Ortos who is ever the gentleman and a great companion. Larnaca is a great mongering venue – the Cyprus 2-3 o’clock take away service is still somewhat annoying but manageable – especially when interspersed with afternoon sessions. Really look forward to doing it again. And I will. Planning to meet up with Ortos in the not too distant future and one way or another we will get his feet wet in Nicosia.
As always, YMMV. Final thought - Club business in Cyprus is and has been for months very, very slow. Girls becoming concerned about making enough money from their trip there, especially the Nicosia girls. The Clubs can't seem to be willing to adjust their prices to market conditions and so do reduced business levels. Expect that Barbie's reduction in both girl numbers and perhaps quality might be a sign of things to come before visitor numbers increase. Girls are trying to move the traditional CYP 30 that they get for overnight up a notch or two. Best to stay with CYP 30, IMHO, with expectation to pay another CYP 10 for 'taxi and excellent service levels'. In the morning, of course, Elena notwhithstanding, although note that she made no effort to get the money once that it was clear that it was there.
Clearly, more research is needed. Do you hear me, Ortos? :-)))
Good Morning Viet Larnaca!
Excess,
Thanks for the summary of our weekend together back in late February. Yes you summed it up well. By the way, your report stirred so many happy memories that, after reading it just now, my hand went involuntarily to my telephone and ended up calling somebody I know in the hotel industry to see what kind of rates I can get for this weekend in Larnaca, starting tomorrow night! C'est la sex vie!
Now my last trip about two weeks ago, showed me that indeed business was pretty slow, esp. at La Mammounia. Btw: I thought the girl Sveltana was Russian from Moscow, not Belarusian and I thought I remembered that your Mammounia girl, Elena, was, in fact, from Moldova? No???
Anyway, these details aside, I think it is clear that these girls all want a bit more than 30 quid for an overnight, and I agree that we should not allow the standard rate to rise, but only offer an extra tenner here and there for exceptional service. For example, if I can get one of these girls to real offer a good two rounds with bbbj (and does one dare hope for CIM???), then clearly the girls deserve a bit more, ja?
It is also clear that most girls do accept that the session will include two pops. Now how you organise that is open to negotiation. One could go two pops back to back, say between 03.00-.07.30/08.00, then send her on her way back to her place, whilst you sleep alone in the hotel. Or one could do a good first pop, then sleep a bit, then go for the traditional second pop after sleeping and then send/take her back to her house, etc. This second way seems to be the standard, though I have done the first way too. My point is that I think it would be very uncommon to find a girl who will give you more than two pops during the course of one 30-quid (or even 40-quid) overnight session.
Now I have been with one girl, a Ukrainian at Dantella, twice now. And it is getting pretty good chemistry between us. Let's see what happens tomorrow or Sunday, if I end up seeing her again or not... Maybe if you are a true steady customer one might get an extra pop in there without an extra charge, that depends also on how I might wish to pace myself physically. I ain't no spring chicken anymore like Excess!
About being asked for money up front: True, as you say, Excess: normally one pays at the end, after the deed(s) have been done. But my last session with the Ukranian Alona, who was a very new arrival in Cyprus and not long in this business: She also asked for the money up front. She asked me as we were undressing eachother in the hotel room. This was the only time I've encountered this, but I went with the flow on that one...
Another interesting observation about hotel policy: You will recall that during our late Feb trip the hotels suddenly started to ask the girls to check-in with thier passport numbers, etc. Well the last two weekend trips I've made to L/ca, staying at the Lordos Beach Hotel, I did NOT encounter this at all. I just walked through the lobby at 0.300 with the girl holding my hand as if we were an established couple and just gave the night clerck a nod of acknowledgement as I went into the elevator...
You speak of Nicosia. Well, yesterday I had an hour or so off work at Nicosia and I sat on a bench just opposite "Super Night Club Trocadero." An older man, opened the place up at around 13.30, not for business but to attend to some matters, I suppose. About 20 minutes after going inside, the same older guy came out side with lots of box-files all sorted with receipts of transactions or something. He waited about ten minutes, then a black Volvo pulled up and he put all this paperwork into the trunk of his...accountant? Funny, tax time is coming and maybe he's afraid of being autited! Wonder how they justify all the money that changes hands in these clubs...I wish I took the number plate of the Volvo, so I could use the same accountant!
By the way: As long as we are in the Other Areas section: If somebody out there has some good, solid recent info on the scene in Limassol or another town here, let us know...I'm starting to think that maybe it's time to give Limassol an inspection tour...
Waiting for info on Excess' next arrival. Anybody else want to join the sex-safari?
Ortos
Please see inside the Quote
The system tells me that my reply is too short - put it into the Quote so I guess it doesn't count. Hopefully the above will satisfy the IT beast.
[QUOTE=Ortos]Excess,
Thanks for the summary of our weekend together back in late February. Yes you summed it up well. By the way, your report stirred so many happy memories that, after reading it just now, my hand went involuntarily to my.....
****At this point, Ortos I was becoming seriously worried for you. :-)) But felt much better and envious when you mentioned the telephone.
****Svetland was Belorus, and Elena was Russian or at least that is what they told me and Club girls never lie !! Or maybe her screaming knocked it out of my memory.
Anyway, these details aside, I think it is clear that these girls all want a bit more than 30 quid for an overnight, and I agree that we should not allow the standard rate to rise, but only offer an extra tenner here and there for exceptional service. For example, if I can get one of these girls to real offer a good two rounds with bbbj (and does one dare hope for CIM???), then clearly the girls deserve a bit more, ja?
*****Am always ready to pay a little more for extra service - never an issue there.
It is also clear that most girls do accept that the session will include two pops. Now how you organise that is open to negotiation. One could go two pops back to back, say between 03.00-.07.30/08.00, then send her on her way back to her place, whilst you sleep alone in the hotel. Or one could do a good first pop, then sleep a bit, then go for the traditional second pop after sleeping and then send/take her back to her house, etc. This second way seems to be the standard, though I have done the first way too. My point is that I think it would be very uncommon to find a girl who will give you more than two pops during the course of one 30-quid (or even 40-quid) overnight session.
**** Well, 3 pops have been my norm in Larnaca/Nicosia except as noted. never an issue and perhaps it is my angelic face on the pillow that causes them to melt, or not.
Another interesting observation about hotel policy: You will recall that during our late Feb trip the hotels suddenly started to ask the girls to check-in with thier passport numbers, etc. Well the last two weekend trips I've made to L/ca, staying at the Lordos Beach Hotel, I did NOT encounter this at all. I just walked through the lobby at 0.300 with the girl holding my hand as if we were an established couple and just gave the night clerck a nod of acknowledgement as I went into the elevator...
**** Interesting.......
You speak of Nicosia. Well, yesterday I had an hour or so off work at Nicosia and I sat on a bench just opposite "Super Night Club Trocadero." An older man, opened the place up at around 13.30, not for business but to attend to some matters, I suppose. About 20 minutes after going inside, the same older guy came out side with lots of box-files all sorted with receipts of transactions or something. He waited about ten minutes, then a black Volvo pulled up and he put all this paperwork into the trunk of his...accountant? Funny, tax time is coming and maybe he's afraid of being autited! Wonder how they justify all the money that changes hands in these clubs...I wish I took the number plate of the Volvo, so I could use the same accountant!
***Burn the receipts, always a good policy anywhere. You should have gone over to the Pubs and tried to get to the bottom of that activity - next time we will try it out.
By the way: As long as we are in the Other Areas section: If somebody out there has some good, solid recent info on the scene in Limassol or another town here, let us know...I'm starting to think that maybe it's time to give Limassol an inspection tour...
***Hmmmm...........
Waiting for info on Excess' next arrival. Anybody else want to join the sex-safari?
***I can hardly wait.... take one for the team Mr. O.
Ortos[/QUOTE]
Larnaca Update: New Bright Lights Shine on the Roundabout
my weekend travels brought me once again to the larnaca nightlife scene. i last visited the bunch of clubs clustred around the new port roundabout and a few others rep001tered around larnaca's seashore about two weeks ago. this past visit showed me that even within the short space of two weekends, the scene can change and old girls can disappear, whilst new girls arrive on the scene.
1. barbies: for example, when i went into barbies, i noticed that the girl line-up had almost completely changed. only the good-looking uzbeki girl, evita, was recognisable from the 8 or nine girls i saw here this past weekend. so it would seem that over easter they changed the deck and only the queen of clubs was still on the board from the old deck of cards... i was impressed by the beauty quotient observed here now. almost as good as last nov., when excess and i made our first visit to barbies. unfortunately i arrived here rather late on saturday night, so most of the very attractive ones were already booked for the night. neverthess, i did interview one blonde russian with a killer body. she said her name was nadia and she had just arrived in larnaca about a week or so earlier, having spent the previous 5 months in nicosia. i was about to ask her which club in nicosia she had worked, but chose first to ask her which town she liked better, nicosia or laranca. so i asked:
"which do you like better, nicosia or larnaca?"
"i like russia!", she replied in a rather snotty tone of voice.
"no, i mean, which place in cyprus do you find nicer? larnaca or nicosia?"
"i just told you: i like russia! and i can't wait to leave this **&#$ing island..."
oh, i thought, one of those pissed off girls, down to her last few days of working before her visa runs out...not exactly the best choice for a bed-companion, despite her looks...i sent her away without further investigation and no personal investment of a lady drink, etc...
well my overall take is that some of the other girls at barbies do bear further investigation...
2. high heels: i also saw an almost completely new line-up of girls at high heels, down the road from the roundabout, opposite the palm beach hotel. i sat for some time in a cubicle with a striking petite brunette named margot from minsk in belarus. the vibe was quite good from her, though she seemed to be rather inexperienced. i noticed there were several other very good looking girls, new girls who were not there two weeks ago. i saw margot interacting with several of them, so i assume many of the new ones are also from belarus. unlike excess, i am not so fast to dismiss all girls from belarus, as i've had some great experiences (outside cyprus) with girls of this nationality. i saw no sign of the girl excess had sessioned with in february, svetlana. nor did i recognise any of the other girls, save one dark-haired moldovian with black boots and a great ass who was there each of my previous visits.
3. dantella: i spent alot of sunday night with the ukranian girl i'd been seeing the past two visits to larnaca. it justs gets better and better with her and i been able to develop a very comfortable chemistry with this cute, curvey, brown haired 24 year-old. it was a forgone conclusion sunday night that i would bed this sweet girl. but i had stopped in the previous night to see her also. i was sad to learn she was already booked that night. she was so sweet about it and came over to me and hugged me and told me she too was upset, etc. but she also told me there was no problem if i went with another girl. looking around at the almost 20 or so other girls --i think dantella has the largest selection in larnaca right now-- i saw several potential candidates. i saw a strikingly good-looking brunette with frizzy hair down below the shoulderblades, probably a russian girl, who was lamentably occupied at the bar with another patron. as i started to study the remaining possiblilies, i was approached by a thin, medium tall russian girl, anna, with long natural blonde hair and a pretty face. her english was not so good, but she tried. she seemed a bit quiet and shy, but i like the thin body and her overall look alot. i decided to gamble a bit and took her upstairs for a drink, thinking maybe she will open up a bit once i invest a small amount. i also thought that if the signs were good, i would take it all the way; or if it did not pan out with her, i would cut my losses after one 11-quid drink with her.
well gamblers win and they loose. i lost this time. as i sat with her for first one drink and then (stupidly on my part) a second, i was agast to see she just became a true cold fish. i mean, i started to hug and carress her at the right moments, putting on all the ortos-charm i could mustre. i talked to her about respect for women in bed, etc. but she never emitted even a minimum amount of affection or gave any sign that she would be fun in bed. i remember girls like this occassionally at fkks, and we call them "starfish" because they just like there. i feared that it was a loss cause, so i cut my losses and moved on...
btw: on the next night, again i found myself upstairs in dantella, but this time with a true affectionate partner. i saw the striking brunette also come upstairs with a man, who i think she had seen or gone out with before, judging from the body language and a few snippets of conversation between them. this girl, whoever she is, started great dfk action with this guy upstairs, even though the manager of dantella, andreas was in attendance. i was impressed and had i not been otherwise occupied i would surely have expirienced this girl myself.
altogether, dantella has a great line-up and more than a couple of choices stood out...
4. nostalgia: after i had booked my ukranian on sunday night, i had an hour or so to kill waiting for the 03.00 pick-up time. so i wondered across the street to nostalgia, just to take a look. i also saw a completely new line-up of girls from the previous time i had poked my head in here (and ended up walking out immediately...). this time there were a few very cute bleached blonde ees, plus more than a few exotic asian girls, who turned out to be philippinessas. it was late and i was able to sit with a couple of these asian girls and cuddle for several minutes on the couch without even buying them a drink. one of them, a very curvy girl named marie, was very nice, and had i not already been committed for the night, i might have explored more with a lady drink with her.
interestingly, after i left here and went back across the street to wait for my girl from dantella, i saw this same girl marie come out of nostalgia arm-in-arm with a male guest. they walked right by the sandwich caravans in front of dantella and past the clubs dantella/crystal, and then turned immediately to the left along the side of dantella pub and into the princess hotel. i later asked the ukranian girl i was spending the night with about this princess hotel. apparently you can get a room there to use between 03.00-12.00 the next day for only 13 pounds! sure the girls don't like the place much as it is a cheap-o dive, where "not even the hot water works all the time..." but it is a good option. i think next time i am in town i will investigate this hotel option further. it is also a good place to go for day-time action i imagine...
so much for the update this week... things are looking good in larnaca. and besides saturday night, the clubs still are generally slow...
ortos
Things are looking good in Larnaca....
Indeed from your report, Ortos, there is a whole new crop to explore or furrows to be ploughed. Danatella certainly sounds as if it is coming up trumps in numbers and quality. No report this time from Mammounia ?
Amazing what a month or less can do in Cyprus what with the turn-over of girls on a regular basis. Shows that constant research is needed to keep up with the play, and you can't tell the players without a program.
Belarus? Yes, I have been disappointed however I do keep a positive attitude to most things, and am always willing to be convinced that it may have as much to do with my selection criteria and interviews as with the girls themselves. The girls rarely change their spots as it were so it is our responsibility to sort them out during the interview. As you know, I am an equal opportunity interviewer and release even the most mangy of creatures with a heartful thanks and a positive good-bye.
With the lowered number of customers, I believe that there is a lot of spoken and unspoken disatisfaction with Cyprus from the girls' perspective. I got some of the same vibes in Nicosia during both interviews once something of a rapport was established, and during sessions. This may start to hurt Cyprus in the next 6 months or so as more girls drift back home with less than full pocket books or at least not up to their expectations. They may pass along an unfavorable view of the Cyprus club scene and lower the number of top acts coming down. Moral of the story, enjoy while the going is good and dig those diamonds out from the rough - they are always hiding there somewhere.
Glad to hear that your current favorite continues to please - also she seems to be getting busier as perhaps other patrons grow to understand her fine qualities. Needless to say I am very envious but happy to read of your successful jaunts. It is getting closer to the time when Excess needs to re-enter the fray. But not quite yet. Will keep you posted.
Thanks for the encouraging report.