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[QUOTE=Desi Guy]Does anyone know what the general testing is for workers in go-go bars? And any advice on what to do next other than freak out?![/QUOTE]
Sorry to hear it DG. Not sure what the practise is in Samui, nor at that particular gogo bar, but in many places in Pattaya girls are required to be tested monthly for the major STDs, and apparently they have a full work-up every six months. This means you are more likely to catch the nagging annoying STDs (e.g., warts, herpes, etc. tested for every six months) than the ones that kill you (e.g., HIV, tested for every month). All this was according to two different Pattaya gogo girls in June, one from Baccara, the other from Super Girl. But this is what happens in the top end gogo bars in Pattaya, not sure about your situation.
I will leave the medical advise to the medics on this board.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]but in many places in Pattaya girls are required to be tested monthly for the major STDs, and apparently they have a full work-up every six months...... All this was according to two different Pattaya gogo girls in June, one from Baccara, the other from Super Girl. [/QUOTE]
I've heard some bars test and many don't. Some test prior to employment, and other test periodically. But all the info on testing in the gogo bars is shady at best. If anyone knows what the true practice/policy is regarding testing in gogos please share. I've always been interested in this.
On another note, the massage parlors(soapies) in bkk do require testing. This is one of the reasons that most Thais tend to only patronize massage parlors.
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A girl from Tilac in BKK insisted that she has to get tested once a month and bring the health slip back to mgmt at the bar.. Who knows if she's telling the truth.
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[QUOTE=Desi Guy]Does anyone know what the general testing is for workers in go-go bars? And any advice on what to do next other than freak out?![/QUOTE]
As already pointed out, tests may be done but they might not be reliable. Only having yourself checked is reliable (after one to two weeks for most STDs, two weeks for HIV with a PCR-test, otherwise three months). Of course it is also possible to take prophylactic measures, ie. antibiotics for common STDs (eg. 1g azithromycin). As far as HIV is concerned there's also something called post-exposure prophylaxis (within 72hrs) but given your case my guess is that no doctor would consider the risk of infection high enough.
I guess many of us have been through similar periods of anxiety, and I wish you mental strength and good luck.
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does anyone know what the general testing is for workers in go-go bars? and any advice on what to do next other than freak out?![/quote]
well, the first thing to do is not freak out. i have been in the medical field 20+ years and deal with this all the time. you situation is not unique, nor is your response. do not worry about the girl, worry about yourself, i.e.:
first of all, do you have any symptoms? burning when you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url]? pus like discharge in your shorts when you wake up in the morning? is there a mucas plug on the end of your dick your [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] has break through for your first [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in the morning? how about any weird sores (chancres) on your penis? any fever? what about pain in the testicles, or back or flank pain? if the answer to these questions are no and it has been 10-14 days, then you are most likely good, but not out of the woods.
see your primary care provider 90 days after your encounter with the bar girl and have a full std check along with hiv and syphilis. be specific that you want this testing done. unless she was an intravenous drug user or had a bi-sexual boyfriend you can get cleared of everything else.
when you go to your provider, tell them the truth. "i had unprotected sex with a sex provider and even though i have no symptoms i am still concerned about my health". this will leave no ambiguity and all your questions will be answered.
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[QUOTE=Desi Guy]Had a horrible incident this past weekend in Samui -- had unprotected sex with a woman I barfined from a go-go. How it happened is a bit complicated -- I was drunk and having a little trouble getting completely aroused and she removed the condom and quickly slipped me in. We had sex for a couple minutes and then I realized what had happened. It was a horrible mistake and I'm of course super paranoid now. She claims it was the first time she had unprotected sex but I don't know if that's true and it doesn't mean she's necessarily clean.
Does anyone know what the general testing is for workers in go-go bars? And any advice on what to do next other than freak out?![/QUOTE]Well firstly, I have been stupid a few times myself, and I recently got a full screening done in Europe and was clear. It was painful waiting 10 days for the results however. Carmex has given you good advice, best to follow it.
As for whether the girls get checked, it is really up to the Bar and the Girl. The bar I use most, Rawhide on Soi Cowboy checks the girls every week for most stuff and once a month for HIV. It is usually done Saturday morning, and the girls carry little books which they will show you if you ask. Rawhide (and Long Gun) are owned by a Thai lady though, who seems to look after the girls well. Midnite Bar checks them Monthly/Three monthly for HIV. Others I have no clue. You can ask, but whether you trust the answer is up to you. A lot of people do ask, in fact a few girls have said to me "falang often ask that. "
A lot of the freelancers are terrified of being HIV positive and hence don't get checked as it will end their career, even though low cost treatment is apparently now available in LOS. Most girls in BKK are very good at using condoms however, and I am most of the time as well. One thing I have found a couple of times though is after you have been with the same girl a few times, and you are like "friends" (LOL), she stops using condoms. Watch out for that. I once remember lazily asking a old friend from Midnite Bar for a BJ one morning and next thing I knew she was bouncing up and down on me bareback.
Good luck! I hope it is good news.
PS I have a friend who works in Samui. She had only one customer in August. (well apart from me, but she came to BKK to see me).
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I happened to have an accident once with a girl from Rainbow 4. It was literally an accieent (it just slipped off somehow... and I wasn't drunk or anything) and later it didn't give me peace of mind and I was too afraid to go do a check since during my first check even when I was almost 100% sure I didn't have a chance of contracting anything I nearly died of a stress waiting for the same-day result.
Mind you the unprotected accident happened for only a minute or so.
Does anyone know if girls at Rainbow 4 get checked regularly or if they get checked at all? This is some freaky stuff once you start thinking (and reading) about HIV.
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Correct some bars requires testing, but its very easy to cheat as they dont have to show any id if they go to the std clinic in soi11. So the infected girls just ask a friend to take the test in their name.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]I've heard some bars test and many don't. Some test prior to employment, and other test periodically. But all the info on testing in the gogo bars is shady at best. If anyone knows what the true practice/policy is regarding testing in gogos please share. I've always been interested in this.
On another note, the massage parlors(soapies) in bkk do require testing. This is one of the reasons that most Thais tend to only patronize massage parlors.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Desi Guy]Had a horrible incident this past weekend in Samui -- had unprotected sex with a woman I barfined from a go-go. How it happened is a bit complicated -- I was drunk and having a little trouble getting completely aroused and she removed the condom and quickly slipped me in. We had sex for a couple minutes and then I realized what had happened. It was a horrible mistake and I'm of course super paranoid now. She claims it was the first time she had unprotected sex but I don't know if that's true and it doesn't mean she's necessarily clean.
Does anyone know what the general testing is for workers in go-go bars? And any advice on what to do next other than freak out?![/QUOTE]Hey guys,
Newly arrived on the scene and just read about DG's situation. Now I don't want to be a shit stirrer, but having trawled this heaven sent activity for the past decade, I know a lot of these establishments DON'T do legit tests.
Every massage parlour will have their panel clinics which will provide standard HIV/STD tests. However, many of the clinics, in the pretext of saving a buck, will just approve the procedure without actually conducting a test. I'm not finger pointing at all of them, but some of them do this.
I've heard that story from a few gals so they leave to go to another. True story. So all you gentlemen out there, don't forget your hats. Fifteen minutes of sheer pleasure will render you a lifetime of regret.
Play safe!
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Torn Frenulum
i tore my frenulum about 6 weeks ago during oral sex - a girl from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s used her teeth a bit too much and it tore. for those who don't know, the frenulum is the thin tissue that connects the bell end of your penis to the shaft. it's the most sensitive part. anyway, tt slowly healed but now there is a scar and every time i have sex the scar breaks because there is very little "stretch room" if you take my meaning.
i went to the doc yesterday. he referred me to a dermatologist. she looked at my frenulum and told me that the problem was with the scarring. when it's stretched, the scarring cracks and the healing process starts all over again. she gave me some special gentle soap to use - it's actually not a soap but a soap-free cleanser so the scar doesn't dry out. she also recommended i apply vaseline to the scar to make it more loose, and to also apply it when i start having sex again (which won't be for a while).
the dermatologist i saw couldn't tell me when it would heal completely, or if it would ever heal enough that i wouldn't have to apply vaseline every time i want to have sex. i'll try this treatment for a few weeks and then get a second opinion if no improvement can be seen.
any suggestions? i've posted this on several health message boards as well. i just get the feeling that the doc might be wrong because she's a dermatologist - there must be another way to fix this. i'm even considering looking into plastic surgery, because as of now, i'm very afraid of not having sex for a very very long time.
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torn frenulum/scar
Doc A's Reply to Mangofan; use DERMOVATE ointment (or analogous STRONG corticosteroid cream)on Your scar 2x daily for 2-3 weeks. This will soften the connective tissue considerably.
PS: Dr's fees are charged in pussy-info.
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Had the same problem...
[quote=mangofan]i tore my frenulum about 6 weeks ago during oral sex - a girl from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s used her teeth a bit too much and it tore. for those who don't know, the frenulum is the thin tissue that connects the bell end of your penis to the shaft. it's the most sensitive part. anyway, tt slowly healed but now there is a scar and every time i have sex the scar breaks because there is very little "stretch room" if you take my meaning.
i went to the doc yesterday. he referred me to a dermatologist. she looked at my frenulum and told me that the problem was with the scarring. when it's stretched, the scarring cracks and the healing process starts all over again. she gave me some special gentle soap to use - it's actually not a soap but a soap-free cleanser so the scar doesn't dry out. she also recommended i apply vaseline to the scar to make it more loose, and to also apply it when i start having sex again (which won't be for a while).
the dermatologist i saw couldn't tell me when it would heal completely, or if it would ever heal enough that i wouldn't have to apply vaseline every time i want to have sex. i'll try this treatment for a few weeks and then get a second opinion if no improvement can be seen.
any suggestions? i've posted this on several health message boards as well. i just get the feeling that the doc might be wrong because she's a dermatologist - there must be another way to fix this. i'm even considering looking into plastic surgery, because as of now, i'm very afraid of not having sex for a very very long time.[/quote]
oi mate!
i had the same problem two years ago.
frenulum damaged. it was just a small wound, but it caused big problems. i don 't need to tell you that... ;)
but i was suggested a circumcision, with the frenulum totally removed...
i don;t regret that decision. my cock looks better... :d, and it is much cleaner also.
i hope this information helps a bit...
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[QUOTE=Frankypanky]Oi mate!
I had the same problem two years ago.
Frenulum damaged. It was just a small wound, but it caused BIG problems. I don 't need to tell you that... ;)
But i was suggested a circumcision, with the frenulum totally removed...
I don;t regret that decision. My cock looks better... :D, and it is much cleaner also.
I hope this information helps a bit...[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the reply. Any idea how much a circumcision or a frenuplasty would cost in Bangkok? I have BUPA health insurance through my school, but I'm not sure if they would cover a procedure like that.
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scarring
[quote=mangofan]i tore my frenulum about 6 weeks ago during oral sex - a girl from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s used her teeth a bit too much and it tore. for those who don't know, the frenulum is the thin tissue that connects the bell end of your penis to the shaft. it's the most sensitive part. anyway, tt slowly healed but now there is a scar and every time i have sex the scar breaks because there is very little "stretch room" if you take my meaning.
i went to the doc yesterday. he referred me to a dermatologist. she looked at my frenulum and told me that the problem was with the scarring. when it's stretched, the scarring cracks and the healing process starts all over again. she gave me some special gentle soap to use - it's actually not a soap but a soap-free cleanser so the scar doesn't dry out. she also recommended i apply vaseline to the scar to make it more loose, and to also apply it when i start having sex again (which won't be for a while).
the dermatologist i saw couldn't tell me when it would heal completely, or if it would ever heal enough that i wouldn't have to apply vaseline every time i want to have sex. i'll try this treatment for a few weeks and then get a second opinion if no improvement can be seen.
any suggestions? i've posted this on several health message boards as well. i just get the feeling that the doc might be wrong because she's a dermatologist - there must be another way to fix this. i'm even considering looking into plastic surgery, because as of now, i'm very afraid of not having sex for a very very long time.[/quote]have you tried mederma or another scar reducer?
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went to the hospital today to see a urologist about the scar. he recommended a frenuplasty, so an hour later i was on the operating table. the worst part of it was the actual injection which went straight into the base of my cock - hurts like hell. but now i have a bandage around it (which comes off tomorrow). he said that i should be ready for action again in about 2-3 weeks.
total cost: 12,000 baht.
lesson learned: if you feel the girl biting down on your cock in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], make her stop - no matter how close you are to cumming or how drunk you are.