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[QUOTE=China 69; 1108393]What is the bar's logic for charging the girl to fuck the guy? It seems like that would encourage girls to try to meet the guys outside of the bar, which would be bad for the bar business.
And also, how much is a ficha worth? If a girl drink costs $7 how much of that does she get to keep? [/QUOTE]The bar makes it money selling drinks and in the case of Hong Kong, selling rooms. Think about it. The $3. 00 beer cost way less than that and the girl drinks are even more profitable even when they pay out her commission. Girls are required to make their ficha quota, reimburse the house to make up for the quota, or work somewhere else. Most clubs forbid their girls from working outside the clubs (loosely enforced, only if a stupid customer tells them will they find out). Some girls will go arriba a lot and make good money doing that so having to pay out for missing fichas makes economic sense to them. Others will try and do both. Superstars get $$$ with both.
The last time I asked a girl about her cut of the ficha (not at HK) , she said she got half. However, she needed to make her quota or she'd end up not making anything. It isn't as if the bar charges the girl to go arriba, but the time she's in the room, she's not working on the quota. In most cases she gets some credit for getting the guy upstairs since that more revenue for the house. If a girl isn't pulling her weight, she gets cut loose. There will always be new girls to replace them.
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[QUOTE=China 69; 1108393]What is the bar's logic for charging the girl to fuck the guy? It seems like that would encourage girls to try to meet the guys outside of the bar, which would be bad for the bar business.
And also, how much is a ficha worth? If a girl drink costs $7 how much of that does she get to keep? [/QUOTE]I was told by a chica that at AB, if they have more than two trips arriba, then they have to come up with 10 fichas or pay the difference. I think this is why her name is asked at the hotel "check-in".
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[QUOTE=China 69; 1108393]What is the bar's logic for charging the girl to fuck the guy? It seems like that would encourage girls to try to meet the guys outside of the bar, which would be bad for the bar business.
And also, how much is a ficha worth? If a girl drink costs $7 how much of that does she get to keep? [/QUOTE]The bar is in the business of selling booze. The girls are just bait to get guys in the door so they can buy overpriced beer, watered-down liquor and hugely inflated soda masquerading as pony beers.
So, the different bars come up with different schemes. HK used to have some sort of 10 ficha minumum before arribas, or something like that. I think some variation still exists. AB has a similar one. CC, due to its relative slowness, mandates 2 fichas per arriba, IIRC. Of course, a lot of this can be circumvented by a few pesos migrating from the chica's hand to the doorman's.
The girls usually keep about 1/2 of the ficha price. When they were $6, they got $3. It's similar now. Some bars, so I'm told, like LM, pay a higher percentage. At shift change you'll see all the chicas cashing in their fichas. Some walk away with a tidy sum. $30. $40 per night is a fair amount of money in MX.
A few years ago the bars started mandating complete shifts. CC was notorious for popular girls showing up, working until they got a couple of arribas, and then skipping out. So, most bars insist on 8 hour shifts, and only so much time away for arribas or meals. AB has the most brutal shifts, IIRC. I think they are 12 hours. 6 days a week. Of course, that may not be true any more, as I hardly ever go to AB.
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Yes, good question, China. I have ocassionally had a girl from Adelitas or HK meet me at my hotel room after her shift. They usually want more but will settle for $100 overnight depending on when they get off work and when they have to leave in the morning (most of them have kids). To me it is worth it. Especially if she has big knockers like BonBon.
[QUOTE=China 69; 1108393]What is the bar's logic for charging the girl to fuck the guy? It seems like that would encourage girls to try to meet the guys outside of the bar, which would be bad for the bar business.
And also, how much is a ficha worth? If a girl drink costs $7 how much of that does she get to keep? [/QUOTE]
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Last month a Hong Kong girl met me at my room at Cascadas before her shift started. I think it was like 7 or 8pm and she was in her street clothes. Instead of coming straight to my room she checked in at the front desk. What was that about? Was she getting charged fichas? And why didn't she get in trouble for meeting me "outside" of the club (I. E. I wasn't in the club drinking.)?
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[QUOTE=China 69;1108874]Last month a Hong Kong girl met me at my room at Cascadas before her shift started. I think it was like 7 or 8pm and she was in her street clothes. Instead of coming straight to my room she checked in at the front desk. What was that about? Was she getting charged fichas? And why didn't she get in trouble for meeting me "outside" of the club (I. E. I wasn't in the club drinking.)?[/QUOTE]The girls aren't indentured servants, and they can do whatever they want, outside of their shift.
Meeting customers outside of working hours isn't really a significant loss of revenue for the clubs, as the Tijuana business model is a bit different than that of other countries. The guys usually aren't there for extended periods. They go down for an evening, have some fun, go home. They don't have time to arrange trysts before or after shifts.
Also, most of the girls don't work outside of business hours. Many do, but I think the majority do not. There are a million reasons, like taking care of kids, taking care of a boyfriend / husband, sleeping, they don't like to hang with gringos outside of work, whatever.
If it ever becomes a problem, you can bet the clubs will find a way to minimize any outside activity.
As far as your girl goes, were you with her when she arrived? If not, they're not going to just let some chica off the street wander into the hotel and go to a customer's room. She's going to have to check in at the desk, probably tell them what room she's going to, etc.
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[QUOTE=Phordphan;1108723]AB has the most brutal shifts, IIRC. I think they are 12 hours. 6 days a week. Of course, that may not be true any more, as I hardly ever go to AB.[/QUOTE]They may still have the most brutal ficha $ reimbursement for the chicas but no 12 hr shifts anymore. In fact, many chicas don't arrive until 9 or 10 and the doors supposedly started closing months ago at 3AM. Customers could remain inside so the chicas would hang around as long as the customers did but not past 6AM for sure. The new mayor is pushing for earlier closing of some 52 bars. I believe it is 1AM Sun-Thurs. But open a couple of hours later on weekends. If this passes the night chicas should be parading in earlier, like 5 & 6pm during the week.
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[QUOTE=Super Gato;1108409]If a girl isn't pulling her weight, she gets cut loose. There will always be new girls to replace them.[/QUOTE]That's exactly right and the reason why girls can be so pushy when they're hassling you to buy them drinks. Sometimes we forget that while we're hanging out and having fun they are in fact working to feed themselves and their dependents. Keeping that in mind makes it easier to understand and tolerate otherwise annoying behavior.
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[url]http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=6f2dc191418e4b7e6d94f1a30532eb89[/url]
I found this article. It says her average weekly earnings is $2000. That means she'd have to go upstairs 5 times a day@$60 and if she keeps 100% of it. Is that doable?
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[QUOTE=Grandma; 1112988][url]http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=6f2dc191418e4b7e6d94f1a30532eb89[/url]
I found this article. It says her average weekly earnings is $2000. That means she'd have to go upstairs 5 times a day@$60 and if she keeps 100% of it. Is that doable? [/QUOTE]It really depends on how many days she works per week and how many tips received as well as fichas (tickets) she collects based on quantity of "chica drinks" she can hook guys out of. Many chicas make most of their money from tips and fichas with only a few arribas (trips up).
Also depends on if she is talking gross (before expenses and they have plenty) or net after she tips all of those waiting with hand out, updates her hair, nails, wardrobe, etc. Only a very popular chica would average 5 arribas per day in today's economy. Also depends on her hours, night time chicas should average more money per week.
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Thought about this for a while, I think that number is in pesos. 2000 pesos would be $165 a night. The girl in a pic is a 7 in looks according to me and wouldn't get anything but maybe a couple dollars tips out of me if she was a good dancer. For the past couple of weeks I've been to HK 3 times a week for around 4 hours each visit. As far as I can tell there's no girl that works the full 7 days. I've followed the hottest girl I've seen in La Zona in all of my 20+ visits since my discovery of this wonderful place in October, around the club last Wednesday. I wanted to go arriba with her bad but had anxiety. I was scared. In 4 hours I lost track of her once for 1/2 hour but I don't think she went upstairs in that time. She sat with a guy and got a couple of drinks (twice) , went up to the VIP dance room with a guy (once) and the rest of the time she was either on stage (twice) or dancing on the bar (twice). I'd estimate the most popular girls go arriba 3 times a night at most and earn under 40k a year after expenses.
I just quit my job in SD. And I'm looking for a career change. You guys like grandma's? At 2k a week I'd take it up the ass, cim, sucky / fucky everything!
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Melissa from Reynosa
Fellow mongers,
Does anyone on this post have any experience with a beautiful girl from Reynosa that goes by the name of Melissa. She has a beautiful face (girlfriend and innocent quality) , fairly large enhanced boobs, speaks english very well, she is around 5 foot 5 with medium length brown hair and wholesome ass. I usually don't go to Hong Kong cause they are more expensive than all of the other bars (they even charge you a dollar for the girl to wear a small robe for the trip to the room) but when I go I seek only this one chica. I have not seen her lately and was wondering if someone has dealt with her recently and what kind of experience they had.
Would love to know.
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[QUOTE=Wilbur57; 1113243]Fellow mongers,
Does anyone on this post have any experience with a beautiful girl from Reynosa that goes by the name of Melissa. She has a beautiful face (girlfriend and innocent quality) , fairly large enhanced boobs, speaks english very well, she is around 5 foot 5 with medium length brown hair and wholesome ass. I usually don't go to Hong Kong cause they are more expensive than all of the other bars (they even charge you a dollar for the girl to wear a small robe for the trip to the room) but when I go I seek only this one chica. I have not seen her lately and was wondering if someone has dealt with her recently and what kind of experience they had.
Would love to know. [/QUOTE]I haven't seen her in over 3 months. If we are talking about the same girl, her English is excellent. She has a huge round booty. Almost looks like an implant. I usually go in every Thursday at least once every 2 weeks, usually every week and haven't seen her.
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HK Coupons
For those of you who may be interested, here are a couple of coupons you can use at Hong Kong.
1. Buy One Drink, Get one Free : The patron's beers are $4 each and this coupon gives you two for the price of one.
2. Half off of the price of a Lap Dance : The lap dances are called privados at Hong Kong and done in individual booths with a door. Putting your foot behind the door to keep it closed gives you complete privacy! They are usually $20 but $10 with this coupon.
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More HK Coupons
A couple of other coupons for use at Hong Kong.
1. 30% off stay at Cascadas Hotel : This is the hotel that is used by the girls at Hong Kong. The coupons gets you 30% off the walk-in rate of $40 / night from Monday through Wednesday. An alternative to book the hotel for the night is online price of $35 / night during the week but the coupon will still get applied only at the walk-in rate of $40 to give you a final price of $28 / night. There is also a $10 deposit for the room key that is refunded when you check-out.
2. Buy One appetizer, get one off : Never tried this one. I would rather have a couple of al pastor tacos outside the club for $1 each!