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Carrick,
You're right about the cheaper part. It's much cheaper to P4P than to engage in a relationship with a non-pro. I was introduced to this girl I'm seeing by my Korean teacher, the girl works in a hospital as a laboratory technician. We're moving along slowly, but its really high maintenance. Last week we went out to dinner, tomorrow we're going to the movies and dinner afterwards. I'm playing the gentleman role right now, but in the end I know that she knows where I want to end up. Of course I have a lot of time on my hands and fortunately the funds to feed my habit, so I will continue to see where this leads. If she wasn't so delectable I would have drop her after the second date. In my view it's just like dating any other girl back home. You just pay more in a non-pro relationship (my experience). You can find non-pros but you have to get out of the tourist areas. Museums, Markets, Korean Cultural Shows and cities where you're the only foreigner are places to go. Another good source is to get a Korean worker to introduce you. The key to this though is that you have to play the role of a gentleman, you can't push and it may take 5, 6, 7 or more dates before you can get to first base, of course this all depends on the girl.
The Aura of the Foreign (American) mystique is really not what is use to be in Korea. The people are not that much in awe of Americans or foreigners anymore. Therefore I think its more of an individual presentation of your self to the girl that will get you in good with her. Knowledge of the Korean language is a plus, most Koreans are impressed when foreigners can carry on a little dialogue with them in their native language, and know something about their history. I was never the smartest one in school, but I'm progressing very well in learning the Korean language, or so says my Korean teacher. I want her to practice French on me, but that's another story, it will probably only happen in my dream (She's a doll). Stopping a girl on the street and asking for directions (in Korean), or the location of a certain establishment could easily be a starting point to a relationship.
Of course you could get lucky too, about two months ago I met this Japanese man who has a Korean girl friend, He is about 55, she is 28. He is the head of some big Japanese company, drives a Lexus. He wanted me to bang his girl friend while he watched. She isn't the most beautiful girl, but she was young friendly enough. The one thing he wanted me to know was that he was not weird, and what they were doing was not abnormal, (I didn't care). The first time, we did it they were staying in the Hamilton Hotel, the first time was good, we went up to the room, and did the deed, but the odd part for me was not so much him being there and watching us, it was his constant talking to her and rubbing her face, asking her if she like it and telling her to enjoy me. The excitement of the first time wore off for me because the second time we met at a hotel in KOEX, it became more of a task. I couldn't get past the fact that he wanted to keep touching her and talking, that turned me off. So the third time he called I didn't go. My only point of sharing this story, is not to embellish it because I'm not so really comfortable thinking back about it, but to let people know that it can happen (for free from a non-pro). As a side note, I think I experienced a little of what male porn stars experience as far as the distractions they face, Its not easy doing it when you have someone else in the room you don't want to be there
From my GI days, I traveled to the hometown of one of my Korean soldier counterpart (KATUSA) the last time I was over here. We took the subway to a town (about 2 to 3 hours from Seoul) call IRI- City, the name is now changed to IK-SAN, this is where I met the most beautiful Korean girl I ever saw. We developed a long term relationship, she was almost everything I wanted, (except the marriage part) extremely sweet and cultured, but there was a maintenance cost to keep up the relationship with her, not that she was demanding material things from me, the expenses were your regular garden variety dating ones; dinner, (train tickets), hotel rooms, gifts. Any way I was treated like a celebrity in this town, people would come up to me and practice their Konglish asking "where are you from"? They were extremely friendly. In my view a steady relationship with a non pro takes one out of the mongering game, you must be prepared to commit, and in this technological age with the cell phone revolution be prepared to be text messaged and called at numerous (inopportune) times a day. Be careful also that when you're not looking your non-pro may check your cell phone log to see who you've been calling or who called you. Its just too much, if you have something to hide (mongering) like I do. My advise for mongers is to stick to the pros. Of course if you have the patience, time, and expense account to after a non-pro or you're looking for a wife, then go for it.
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Nefarious,
IMO Korea has been the easiest country to pick up girls for no strings fun. Most will go through the game playing process but its easy enough to bag them in the first night and meet themn now and again for sex.
In the last month two girls I met on the internet came tpo my place and literally within 30 mins we were going at it. That was the first meeting. Go to Itaewon, Hongdae or Sinchon for the easiest lays, but in reality Korean girls are available everywhere.
I can only speak basic Korean but the old "I dont speak English' line is bs. If they want to sleep with you they will, language barrier or no.
Just be assertive and playful at the same time..if you get them back to your place, all pretences vanish and you arein...
good luck!
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Non-Pros, pro CIM, one night stands, all that is not difficult one bit.
You mongers need to see what it's like with Sam Katz.
Sam Katz aka SKPIMP
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Le Baron
It's all very well giving a run down of the service and price - but if you don't say where the place is (other than the extremely vague "Yong San area"), then what benefit does your post serve?
Please be as specific as you can with directions - especially if you forgot the name of the place - perhaps we'd all like to check it out!
On the other hand, your description, if accurate, is mind-blowing!
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Hi everyone,
In my previous report, I forgot to mention where this place is.
I'm so sorry about that. I was so concentrating on giving service description that I forgot to give one of the fundamental information.
Here is how you go to this place.
From Wonhyo Bridge, go towards Seoul Station.
On your right you will see a 39 floor tall building saying CJ Home Shopping or something similar.
About 3 buildings down the road you will come to a Hyundai Motor Showroom.
The place is at the B2 level of this builing, but you have to go in through the left hand side entrance when looking at the building.
The place is called O2 as in oxygen.
Please note that, my being a Korean, I am sure if they accept foreigners, but from their service-oriented attitude, they would not refuse any customer.
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Since my last post I've had a couple of outings at FRIENDS and am happy to report that Mr Happy came out smiling. It's not really that far from itaewon by cab, about 5,000 if i recall correctly. Line 7, Soongsil station exit, about a minute of walking down the hill before you see the sign on the side of the building 'FRIENDS: stress clinic'. Well how much stress I have is besides the point.
Its the usual massage, HJ service and you get it for 60,000. Waited in the room for about 5 mins before a pretty little thing walks in. She must've been about 24 and was just adorable in her little shorts. Started with a face massage, worked on to the hot towels, the finger pulling and all over a good massage. I've come to expect little from the massage part, but this was good. On to the important part. My man is up at the mention of the special service and she jumps onto the end of the bed and finishes me off. If only I could've lasted longer, but it was just too good.
Afterwards, learned her name (Hyun Joo) which I remembered by the great HJ she gave. Returned less than a week later for more of the same. Got a mileage card and something like my 9th visit is free. Well, I'll see if I make it that far. The place was really foreigner friendly and the guys at the front speak english well. They told me that there are a heap of new girls coming in. I asked if I could come and take some pics of the girls next time, they said this wouldn't be a problem. I'm guessing they didn't mean I could take their clothes off first as much as I'd love that. Planning to head back there soon, as i'm getting addicted to that GFE and the tender tug..
More travels soon. But before I go, can I just ask. Run Mann how the hell do you get to screw a Japanese guy's wife? Am I doing something wrong here? Please feel free to hand my number out to any interested party and I'll help them out. Seriously though, on the whole dating clubbing picking up game, I'm growing really tired of the whole thing. I always choose the girls who never want to come home. Maybe i'm fussy and keep choosing only the girls who give me an instant hard-on.
Le Baron, I'd love to know where that amazing massage place is in Yongsan if you remember. Also, have any foreigners had luck with Jang An Dong? I'm thinking about organizing a posse to rock that town but not sure if it's worth my while. If there's nothing I hate more, its getting turned town by hookers.
Peace.
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Runn Mann,
WOW! What is know-how to fuck a Japanese guy's wife? Really beats me. Clap Clap Clap (standing)!
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So I'm a Senior Member now? That's great!
Anyway, seems like there's a problem with foreigners trying to get laid in some parts of Korea. As a result, myself and an associate are in talks of opening up a foreigner-friendly spot in Miari. That's right, folks!
In addition to servicing foreigners, we will train the girls well. Of course, this is just an idea that's come up in the past month or so, with serious thought only starting about a week ago.
We will look more into this, and see what other things may be involved in setting up this kind of business. Will update more later.
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Reiterating a previous post, some places in Janghan-dong accept foreigners but charge 100k instead of the usual 80. And I found out why some places take their condoms outta foil. Not because they're used (if you think about it, they'd just dry up anyway), but because if they get raided, the girls are supposed to wrap up and swallow the evidence!
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Looks like the sports massage at the Hamilton is gone. I stopped by the other day and the whole place has been gutted and is under some kind of renovation. So, looking for a new thing, I tried the Kaya Hotel next to the USO (Samgakchi station on line #4). First, some dude says they don't speak English there. No problem, I say in Korean. Then he tells me the place is closed and shows me to the door. Okay, I think, they just don't want foreigners. However, the girl behind the desk was a real hottie (not the usual worn-out ajumma), so I figure I'd try again a while later. I did, and the guy was gone. The hottie told me they're open 24 hours and the price is 200,000 won.
I didn't partake because in the meantime I went across the street to a barber shop for an average massage and excellent fake BJ. Philosophy question: if a fake BJ is so good so as to be indistinguishable from the real thing, can you call it a BJ? I'd say no because for me a big part of the turnon is the visual aspect, but for those for whom this isn't a problem, I'd recommend the place.
Another report to follow once I check out the Kaya hotel.
Red
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Finally I can add a report to this forum, I've been mooching information for a while so time I added something.
Thank you for recommending Friends Stress Clinic, I've just come back having had crashed the yoghurt cart there, and Hyun-joo is an absolute delight, gorgeous creature. Funny, cute, pretty, lovely body.
Infinately better in service really that the In&Out, but was disappointed that Hyun-joo wouldn't let me touch her chest, in fact slipped into business mode the second I went near them! I guess I just expected that after the In&Out, where I never had any problems stripping them off, but then, the girls aren't so attractive there. You pays your money I guess.
Overall then, I much prefer the Friends Stress Clinic and highly recommend it to other guys seeking a lovely afternoon experience. I'm sold; I'm a regular. 60,000 won and 10,000 tip for "45 minutes massagee, and 15 minutes hand-play" Haha.
LOVE the idea of a foreigners place, not sure what you got in mind but you know what? You'll do a roaring trade, good luck. I'll be your customer for sure, as I have a bit of a fragile ego I suppose and don't like being given the flick by prostitutes.
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My first field report!
I stayed in Korea 3 weeks in July. First place I checked out was Yongsan since it was close by. It was around 5pm. I had read the directions here on the forum, but didn't really remember them. But I think I was able to find the A row. From one of the Shinyongsan station exits it is straight a couple of meters and then left, isn't it? A wide road where it is possible to drive? Acutally I thought the area would be bigger. Anyway I start walking up the road and the girls are calling me. I walk up and down to have a good look and ends up with a girl near the shinyongsan station area. I also thought there would be more to choose from, but I guess it was still early. Being a adopted korean they thought I spoke korean, but I don't. I know some phrases like:"I don't speak korean", "I am korean but adopted" and they helped a lot! The damage was 60,000 won. She was about 165cm, slim with a small ass, just as I like them :)
This was my first time in Korea, so it was a new experience for me. First some cleaning with wet tissues here and there. Then she starts sucking my nipples, chest stomach and goes downwards while I am fondling her breast. She does this for a while, I am eager to get her started so I ask for a condom. She looks surprised says something in korean. I guess she thinks I want to get straight to the pumping. She takes out the condom puts it on and looks surprised again when I first point at her mouth and then on my dick. I know bbbj is normal here, but I just don't want to take the risk. I will characterize her bj skills as very good. After a couple of minutes, I start doing her missionary. I really don't like that position so after a while I flip her over for doggy style. Her pussy was really thight! After about 5 minutes I feel I am about to come. I ask her if I can come on her face. She rejects. I try to negotiate with more money, but she still refuses, so I finish off doggy style. Afterwards she cleans me up. She was friendly all the time and even gave me some vitamin C drink and asked if I wanted 2 of them. I settled with one as I didn't know if I liked them or not.
The next trip I tried to find 588. I went to cheongnyangni, but couldn't find Lotte. I read that it is supposed to be found behind Lotte department store. As I was looking for it, I came over a really small place close to the station. With only 4 or 5 houses. The first one has a disent looking girl so I go for here. Same procedure, only with water and towel instead of wet tissues, cbj and doggy. She wasn't very friendly and even denied me to use the toilet afterwards. Not a good experience. Payed 60,000 won.
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Kaya Hotel sports massage report:
Summary: Overall a good high-quality sports massage. 200,000 for 75min, full service. Enthusiasm and customer service a plus, lack of BJ a negative.
The Kaya Hotel is a relatively small hotel about 200 meters north of the USO, on the main road running from Seoul Station to Samgakchi. Entrance is not through the main lobby, but the side of the building.
I've been there twice (once to collect info, the second for service), and both times the girls working the front desk have been hotties (not the usual washed-up ajumma). I may ask for the receptionist next time.
Got escorted to a standard massage room, and offered a drink even before the girl got there. The girl showed up (about 7/10, petite, said she was 25 which means 30), dressed in a nice summer dress and monster high heels. Went right to the massage before hitting the bathtub, a first for me, but otherwise, the massage, bath, and scrubdown were pretty standard. Went to the wet table for rinsing and boob massage, also got a milk and yogurt rubdown, which were pretty good.
To the bed for the main show, pretty standard except for the outstanding tounge bath and lack of BJ (even covered). I didn't ask since the tounge bath was so good, and she went to work with admirable enthusiasm and professionalism. Maybe next time. No kissing, but her interest (fake probably, but a very good actress), made it close to a GFE. Another juice afterwards, and no rush out the door. The hottie receptionist even asked if service was good. Overall, a good experience and a worthwhile substitute for the Hamilton.
Red
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I know. Wrong forum. Still, someone in Seoul might know.
Looking for info for Cheju/Jeju. Anyone know of places that offer REAL service, not the fake BJ that are common in Korea.
If you have been to Jeju and know first hand of places, where.
Thanks!
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Mojo,
My memory is pretty bad, and I'm not saying I actually went to 588 ;o), but my guess is that you went to the wrong cheongnyangni station (there another one I believe on the more southern route of the same line) or you went out the wrong subway exit accidentally. One of the exits goes right to Lotte, and there is one of those neighborhood maps, same as at all the other subways stations with it clearly shown.
If I remember correctly, there's a parking garage with nicely dressed parking attendants near Lotte. 558 is just beyond it and you can see the banners above the streets. There are probably many other ways to get there too. It's kind of hard to miss because of the banners.
Yongsan RLD can also be tricky to foreigners since you really want the Sinyongsan subway station instead of Yongsan.