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[QUOTE=Paulie97;2518380]Yes a lot of people deserve credit, even Bob Barr who did what was right in the end. Trump has thrown everything and the kitchen sink at the system and it has held up. It should concern us though that so much disruption has been possible, and that Trump was able to function as a quasi-dictator in spite of the Constitution. But I give the most credit to the people who responded to the pandemic and a reckoning on race with record voter turnout. We spoke loud and clear, and there's enough reasonable people in authority to prevent the usurpers from taking it from us.
P.S. Was funny, Trumpites saying Joe couldn't draw a crowd, totally disproven by the celebrations all over country in the streets after the election was called. This is our time. Enjoy it.[/QUOTE]China, Iran and the American flag burners are celebrating.
It's true as they say; Americans are stupid.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2518802]Hey,
I also corrected him when he was wrongly saying that Sweden was doing better than Ireland and when he said that France was taking too much money from Europe and I never got credit!
I also forgot his funny theory about the Chinese origin of the Spanish flu (only vaguely supported by one historian).[/QUOTE]France do not contribute with as much as they should to the EU, Sweden contributes with much more per capita than France. The UK left the EU because they had to pay so much more than shitty countries like France. Sweden's net contribution per capita is almost twice (77% to be more precise) as big as the net contribution per capita of France.
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48256318[/URL]
[URL]https://www.visualcapitalist.com/which-countries-are-the-biggest-boost-or-drag-on-the-eu-budget/[/URL]
You're wrong as usual. Several experts claims that the Spanish flu originated from China. You're fact-resistant.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2518778]Utter crap?[/QUOTE]That's what you're.
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That old sweet song
Georgia on my mind. A trail of tears, from sea to shining sea. From Old Virginia to Astoria, Oregon.
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[QUOTE]So, poorer countries and [b]those with a lot of farms[/b] get more.[/QUOTE]Look, the European union wrote a document for trolls like you: [URL]https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/food-farming-fisheries/key_policies/documents/cap-separating-facts-from-fiction_en.pdf[/URL].
Let's get to the numbers:
[URL]https://ec.europa.eu/budget/graphs/revenue_expediture.html[/URL]
France gives 22,78 billions for a total population of 67 M. Sweden gives 3,56 billions for a population of 10,2 M. Per capita that makes 340,3 for France and 349 for Sweden. You want me to thank you for the 9 euros? That's correlated to the GDP Shooshoo, you should understand that.
And France receives 15,09 billions, Sweden 1,71 billions.
Of course if you cherry pick like you love to do it, you stop here and say that 'Evil parasites blablabla we're going to do the Swexit" (suit yourself).
But if you read all the words in the article, you see something about agriculture.
[URL]https://www.europarl.europa.eu/factsheets/en/sheet/104/the-common-agricultural-policy-in-figures[/URL]
Look at the table V above, 9,55 billions of the amount that France receives is for the agriculture. For Sweden it's 0,89.
Still in the same table, 16,9% and 1,6% are the two percentages for France and Sweden (percentage of the total agricultural policy expense).
Now look at the table II. France has 16,3 % of the total agricultural area, Sweden 1,7 %. France produces 18,3 % of the total agricultural output of EU, Sweden 15,1 %.
Maybe know you get it, the 16,9 % and 1,6 %.
So if we deduce the help for agriculture from the total income coming from EU, we have 5,54 billions for France and 0,82 for Sweden. Per capita: 82,7 for France and 80,4 for Sweden.
Sorry for the 2,3. Maybe that's because France founded EU with a few other altruistic countries and we have something like European Parliament in Strasbourg.
As for China, I already explained you the contents of the article you quoted but you're really stubborn, with the money saved by cutting the internet access your parents could pay for some reading lessons.
[URL]https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/1/140123-spanish-flu-1918-china-origins-pandemic-science-health/[/URL]
[QUOTE]Historian Mark Humphries of Canada's Memorial University of Newfoundland says that newly unearthed records confirm that one of the side stories of the war [b]may have been[/b] the source of the pandemic.
Humphries [b]acknowledges that his hypothesis awaits confirmation[/b] by viral samples from flu victims
Humphries [b]concedes that a final answer to the mystery of the Spanish flu's origins is still a ways off[/b]
[b]"I'm not sure if this question can ever be fully answered," Taubenberger cautions[/b], noting that even the origin of a smaller flu pandemic in 2009 still eludes certainty.[/QUOTE]Got it now? When one guy says that maybe, it came from China, that's not really 'several experts'.
Now read this one:
[URL]https://academic.oup.com/emph/article/2019/1/18/5298310[/URL]
I know it's difficult, no big title for you.
I'll help you:
[QUOTE]The simplest objection is to the idea that Chinese labourers were responsible for the spread of the pandemic virus. Crucially, Shanks showed that influenza cases among Chinese and Southeast Asian labourers and military recruits lagged, rather than led, cases among other groups in the same locales. Moreover, Chinese labourers were also shipped to Europe from the East via Suez or the Cape, although these routes were rapidly abandoned in March of 1917 in favour of transporting them across Canada . Finally, although the Chinese workers were reportedly transported across Canada in sealed trains, it seems unlikely even under this harsh scenario that the virus would not have initiated detectable spread in Canada if these individuals really were the original hosts of the pathogen.[/QUOTE]This one is rather good for you too, you just have to read the first lines: [URL]https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-commemoration/1918-pandemic-history.htm[/URL].
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[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2518885]Georgia on my mind. A trail of tears, from sea to shining sea. From Old Virginia to Astoria, Oregon.[/QUOTE]The results from today's Senate elections in Georgia will be interesting.
Polling was showing both contests were running tightly. Running neck and neck and neck and neck.
Going to get down to who's motivated more: Voters strongly wanting democratic majority rule for the US, or those fiercely against it.
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[QUOTE=ShooBree;2518875]...
You're wrong as usual. Several experts claims that the Spanish flu originated from China. You're fact-resistant.[/QUOTE]I think the more recent research shows it likely is of North American origin, probably avian but maybe (surprisingly) equine.
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[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2518912]I think the more recent research shows it likely is of North American origin, probably avian but maybe (surprisingly) equine.[/QUOTE]True. I think Kentucky.
Great Video on the topic.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MHT5xTkL2g&t=1490s[/URL]
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[QUOTE=ShooBree;2518707]Why do you ignore the everything going against your ridiculous propaganda?
[URL]https://www.thelocal.se/20201221/sweden-blocks-travel-from-denmark-over-virus-fears[/URL]
Tegnell did a much better job than the lockdown populists.
I still wonder why you want to punish over 90% of the population for which the COVID-19 isn't worse than the regular flu.[/QUOTE]Because it kills a big portion of the remaing 10% that want to stay in the population.
Why does your King now apologize for Dr? Tegnall's stupid losing herd immunity roulette?
[QUOTE=ShooBree;2518707]You have no right to limit the freedom of others because you're a scared little geezer.
For you to not be a total hypocrite you must also advocate lockdowns to limit the deaths caused by the regular flu. So what is it, are you a total crazy person or a just a hypocrite?[/QUOTE]You seem like a cray person making crazy comparisons. But I'm not afraid to answer your question, despite you being crazy-shit afraid to answer some questions.
We don't lockdown to prevent spread of the flu, which might turn out deadly for some.
For the same reason we don't outlaw automobiles, which are involved in deadly accidents.
Part of the way to identify crazy, is to see if a person can logically sort out and choose between realistic, real world rewards and consequences.
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Dems 52% - Rebums 48%
With over half of the vote counted at 6 PM PST the dems both lead for both seats with each getting approx. 52% of the votes.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2518899]Look, the European union wrote a document for trolls like you: [URL]https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/food-farming-fisheries/key_policies/documents/cap-separating-facts-from-fiction_en.pdf[/URL].
Let's get to the numbers:
[URL]https://ec.europa.eu/budget/graphs/revenue_expediture.html[/URL]
France gives 22,78 billions for a total population of 67 M. Sweden gives 3,56 billions for a population of 10,2 M. Per capita that makes 340,3 for France and 349 for Sweden. You want me to thank you for the 9 euros? That's correlated to the GDP Shooshoo, you should understand that.
And France receives 15,09 billions, Sweden 1,71 billions.
Of course if you cherry pick like you love to do it, you stop here and say that 'Evil parasites blablabla we're going to do the Swexit" (suit yourself)..[/QUOTE]Wow, you can't even read. You're such a troll.
The net contribution / capita of Sweden is 77% higher than the one of France. You're are not doing your part! Which is partly why the UK left. France is a worthless country with moronic politicians as Macron dividing and destroying the Union. The hard facts are in front of you, you just have to accept the reality for what it is.
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48256318[/URL]
[URL]https://www.visualcapitalist.com/whi...the-eu-budget[/URL]
Just look at Calais, migrants are desperate to leave France for England. France is such a mess.
I know that you're just a troll but no matter how many times you repeat your lies they won't become reality.
France is still not contributing with what they should to the EU and several experts are still writing that the Spanish flu probably originated from China. It's out there. I didn't make it up and I honestly couldn't care less where it came from, but the experts are still talking about how the Spanish flu may be the Chinese flu. Don't take it up with me, take it up with the experts. I'm sure they can't wait to laugh in your face.
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Just an old sweet song
Sing it for us Ray.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GufSJChOFG8&list=RDMMI_miwWpWStY&index=2[/URL]
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I made a typo. Sweden produces 1,5 % of the total output of EU, not 15,1 %.
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The net contribution of Belgium and Luxembourg is negative.
You should exterminate them by playing Abba records until they die. Or force fed them with herrings?
Are you so illiterate that you can only read the title or look at the graphs when you read an article?
I gave you all the sources and the figures!
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[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2518990]Because it kills a big portion of the remaing 10% that want to stay in the population.
Why does your King now apologize for Dr? Tegnall's stupid losing herd immunity roulette?
You seem like a cray person making crazy comparisons. But I'm not afraid to answer your question, despite you being crazy-shit afraid to answer some questions.
We don't lockdown to prevent spread of the flu, which might turn out deadly for some.
For the same reason we don't outlaw automobiles, which are involved in deadly accidents.
Part of the way to identify crazy, is to see if a person can logically sort out and choose between realistic, real world rewards and consequences.[/QUOTE]Show me the "apology".
Hilarious, you're aware that the "king" is the laughingstock of Sweden? That fool can barely even read! He's generally considered to be the dumbest person in Sweden. But thank you for demonstrating how out of reach with reality you really are, just like the "king".
Sweden's strategy was never to reach herd immunity, that's simply another false statement from you. The strategy was to keep things as normal as possible to reduce the harm done to the rest of the society which got nothing to fear from the virus.
We both know that you are the one who's crazy. It becomes evident looking at your posts on here, in particularly the ones from Tijuana.
Let me see if I got it correct, you're okay with people dying from the regular flu but not the coronavirus. Will you confess now that you're a hypocrite?