I see entry price is 55 Euros now.
What is current price for 1/2 hr? Still 40E or 50? How much is for next 1/2 hr?
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I see entry price is 55 Euros now.
What is current price for 1/2 hr? Still 40E or 50? How much is for next 1/2 hr?
No, it's 50 to get in the Club.
40 for 30min, and 80 for an hour.
Come in mouth 25.
Paying the girl after each session.
One of the last FKK's that has no problem to start a session with BBBJ at the main room.
As I read posts in other FKK threads I saw that Panthera (PH) and Livingroom (LR) are some others in a reasonable distance to Cologne which come into prominence with their service quality, nudity and some public action options.
I am planing to have a visit which will be service oriented with lower lineup expectations but still having a limit of doable. As I mentioned above possible options are PH, LR and Bernds. According to what I have read in the threads of each club still Bernd's service quality has a place as "legendary". But in the orther hand as far as I read in their threads other two have similar service standard (except CIM) , but better facilities, which I think a reasonable plus for the periods between sessions. Also by means of cost LR and PH has advantages but since according to what I have red in this thread, my opinion about Bernds service is legendary so cost disadvantage may be tolerated.
My most important concern about these clubs is about being a foreigner who don't speak German.
According to my schedule it seems that I will be available ot 9th of Feb Sunday afternoon or 13th of Feb Thursday afternoon.
What would be your advice for a rookie in FKK Clubs about where to visit and when to visit?
[QUOTE=VSail;1527767]A reasonable distance to Cologne[/QUOTE]Cologne? No German speaking skills? Why you are asking about Dusseldorf clubs? Samya is in Cologne and more girls speak English than German there. If you don't mind laud party atmosphere this is a choice.
[QUOTE=VSail; 1527767]As I read posts in other FKK threads I saw that Panthera (PH) and Livingroom (LR) are some others in a reasonable distance to Cologne which come into prominence with their service quality, nudity and some public action options.
I am planing to have a visit which will be service oriented with lower lineup expactations but still having a limit of doable. As I mentioned above possible options are PH, LR and Bernds. According to what I have read in the threads of each club still Bernd's service quality has a place as "legendary". But in the orther hand as far as I read in their threads other two have similar service standart (except CIM) , but better facilities, which I think a reasonable plus for the periods between sessions. Also by means of cost LR and PH has advantages but since according to what I have red in this thread, my opinion about Bernds service is legendary so cost disadvantage may be tolarated.
According to my schedule it seems that I will be available ot 9th of Feb Sunday afternoon or 13th of Feb Thursday afternoon.
What would be your advice for a rookie in FKK Clubs about where to visit and when to visit?[/QUOTE]If you only have a choice of a Sunday and a Thursday to split between any of Haus Panthera, Living Room or Bernds and will be taking public transport to get to them, then please ensure that your visit to Haus Panthera or Living Room is on the Sunday and the visit to Bernds is on the Thursday since Bernds is closed on Saturdays, Sundays and public holidays whereas HP and LR are open those days except maybe Silvester and Christmas Eve. To go to Bernds on a weekend would be a rookie mistake.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1527986]Cologne? No German speaking skills? Why you are asking about Dusseldorf clubs? Samya is in Cologne and more girls speak English than German there. If you don't mind laud party atmosphere this is a choice.[/QUOTE]Joymondor.
As far as I read in the related threads I had an impression of higher service quality will be available in PH or LR than Samya. Again as far as I read I had an impression of better line up will be available in Samya, but according to my impression PH and LR can tolerate this difference with their services.
[QUOTE=Dufey;1528099]If you only have a choice of a Sunday and a Thursday to split between any of Haus Panthera, Living Room or Bernds and will be taking public transport to get to them, then please ensure that your visit to Haus Panthera or Living Room is on the Sunday and the visit to Bernds is on the Thursday since Bernds is closed on Saturdays, Sundays and public holidays whereas HP and LR are open those days except maybe Silvester and Christmas Eve. To go to Bernds on a weekend would be a rookie mistake.[/QUOTE]Dufey thank you reminding me that Bernds will be closed on Saturday and Sunday's, I know this issue and if a Bernds visit happens in my trip it will be on Thursday.
[QUOTE=VSail; 1528331]Joymondor.
As far as I read in the related threads I had an impression of higher service quality will be available in PH or LR than Samya. Agin as far as I read I had an impression of better line up will be available in Samya, but according to my impression PH and LR can tolarate this difference with their services.[/QUOTE]It certainly does, especially in Haus Panthera. Good lineup at the moment there!
Samya is great for the looks, but don't expect extensive foreplay (including BBBJ & French kissing in the bar) there.
[QUOTE=VSail;1528331]As far as I read in the related threads I had an impression of higher service quality will be available in PH or LR than Samya.[/QUOTE]Lets be honest here, its not just the club that gets you the higher level service, there's alot of factors that goes into it. Money, connection with the girl, your age and looks, money, clubs instructions on service level the girls should provide, money. You spend lots of money on the girls, their service levels will be amazing. If you come across as a strange guy asking strange questions, the service will go in the toilet. So try not to talk to yourself too much, don't ask the girls why they are doing this and you'll be fine.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1532979]Lets be honest here, its not just the club that gets you the higher level service, there's alot of factors that goes into it. Money, connection with the girl, your age and looks, money, clubs instructions on service level the girls should provide, money. You spend lots of money on the girls, their service levels will be amazing. If you come across as a strange guy asking strange questions, the service will go in the toilet. So try not to talk to yourself too much, don't ask the girls why they are doing this and you'll be fine.[/QUOTE]After I had some experience in FKK concept at the end of my visits to Mondial I completely agree with your comment. Money has a key effect as increasing the possibility of finding correct choice and also it may have a positive effect on next sessions with the same girl. But I think it is more related with chemistry. I mean how you behave to the girls before and in the room. I am a rookie about FKK but as far as I see first a few minutes is critical. If you can catch something more than classic introduction sentences then rest comes it self. If you catch a good relaxed and funny mood together then the rest would be similar, if you feel forcing yourself to find topics to talk for carry on the conversation or she starts to ask for room then, according to what you feel up to that moment, going to room or leaving the girl will be the best choice.
I think from the first moment you start to talk with girl to the end of your session joy of the period has a sinusoidal graph, if thing starts to have a downward trend then it is hard to have it in rising trend again. At least a break is needed. And the top point and the duration of one cycle of the sinusoidal graph of joy is related with the chemistry between you and the girl. So as a conclusion, IMO, as it is same for every where, you need to give effort to have joy because generally aims of both sides are different, you want to have a good service in the room but in the other hand her priority is to take you to the room. So one needs to give effort to convince the girl you are worth to give more than just a mechanical sex.
In that point of view it is similar to be with an escort where I am more experienced, generally you receive as how you behave.
You guys are both right and wrong. There are clubs (Neby, Bernds, Lulo, Panthera, etc) where the basic service is just higher. How do I know? Because you see every couple making out before they go to a room. No one can deny this is very different from clubs like Acapulco, Mondial, Samya, Mainhattan, etc. Clubs where DFK is not a certainty. I have often had girls (that I know) make a 'disgusted face' at me after making out with a very old dude, so the girls still have their preferences, they just know that it is part of their job (BTW I'm in no hurry to find out what the girls actually think of me).
In my experience these clubs are great for high basic service, but getting 'beyond' that is far more difficult. In a club like Samya there are far more girls that provide limited service, unless they like you or you have 'chemistry'. Personally I like these kinds of girls a lot more; but it also means the experiences are different for different people. For instance, Adel from Samya (now Mainhattan) and Roxana from Sharks are subpar performers in my book. Not terrible, but nothing more than average either. I'll assure you that everyone has a high opinion of Svetlana in Lulo, or Melody in Panthera.
PS I've had the most memorable sessions with girls in Samya of all places (non of the famous names here) and often other reports have been pretty damning.
Thursday evening. About 15 girls (nearly all Romanian) ranging from stunning to less than. Very quiet and nothing like the large FKKs. Rooms quite basic but had a great session with Evelina (Bulgarian). Taxi from airport about E15. Entry E50 + returnable E10 for key, then E40/30 minute session. Free beer.
I was mulling over whether to visit Frankfurt, but I ended up pulling the trigger on tickets to Dusseldorf since they were a couple hundred dollars cheaper and the NRW area in general is cheaper. Anyways I was hoping to get some general questions answered as this seems like a club to visit based purely on the reports. I have scoured this thread, but many posts are old and some contradict others. Any info you guys could provide would be appreciated:
1. What is the standard price / pricing structure for time and any extras? I see posts stating that it is 40 for 30 minutes. Is this still true? There are few posts that state what extras cost (cim / cob, anal, etc) , anyone have any numbers on those?
2. What is the standard / basic service, what should I expect for the basic session? Is BBBJ and DATY part of the basic pay, or is that something that must be asked / negotiated?
3. What is the typical number of girls there during the day / night / weekend? Anyone care to comment on the Boy: Girl ratio during those times?
4. Does this club allow girls to approach / initiate contact, or is it a no-approach club (similar to Samya or others)?
5. How is the English at the club? My German is poor at best, will I have any issues?
6. Does this club discriminate against patrons in any way? I visited Cologne last year and had no issues, but when digging through threads for Dusseldorf are clubs I noticed many people asking about this, something which I found missing in the Cologne / Frankfurt club threads.
7. Is there a list indicating what each girl does at the club, or must you ask the girls themselves? The website listed some, but not all of what each girl is willing to do.
8. The website lists that the patrons receive a robe, I just want to double check that that is still correct?
Thanks for your time,
BillAgain
[QUOTE=Noodlesnick;1535800]Entry E50 + returnable E10 for key, then E40/30 minute session. Free beer.[/QUOTE]Don't forget two very nice meals - cook to order from the menu of 4 or 5 selections
I was there only 2 times during last summer. I try to answer your questions.
1. What is the standard price / pricing structure for time and any extras? I see posts stating that it is 40 for 30 minutes. Is this still true? There are few posts that state what extras cost (cim / cob, anal, etc) , anyone have any numbers on those? [b]As far as I know, the price is still the same. Don't know the cost for CIM, COB, and anal. I assume 50 Euros extra each [/b]
2. What is the standard / basic service, what should I expect for the basic session? Is BBBJ and DATY part of the basic pay, or is that something that must be asked / negotiated? [b]DFK, DATY, and BBBJ are standard services. Some girls might not do all of them. But if they do, they can't charge you extra for them. Normal FKK practice. [/b]
3. What is the typical number of girls there during the day / night / weekend? Anyone care to comment on the Boy: Girl ratio during those times? [b]Hard to say. Typical shift should have around 15 girls. Guys can be about the same or double that. [/b]
4. Does this club allow girls to approach / initiate contact, or is it a no-approach club (similar to Samya or others)? [b]Girls can approach / initiate contact. But normally they are not hard sell. I did not feel pressured in anyway. [/b]
5. How is the English at the club? My German is poor at best, will I have any issues? [b]Some girls do speak some English, but not many. Some speak Spanish if that helps you. I never have problem even if the girls only speaks their native Romanian and Bulgarian. [/b]
6. Does this club discriminate against patrons in any way? I visited Cologne last year and had no issues, but when digging through threads for Dusseldorf are clubs I noticed many people asking about this, something which I found missing in the Cologne / Frankfurt club threads. [b]I assume you are referring to race discrimination. I have seen Caucasian, Asian, and Turks in the club. Didn't seen any African, Indian, and Arab though. Not suggesting they discriminate against them, just none was there on the two days I was there. [/b]
7. Is there a list indicating what each girl does at the club, or must you ask the girls themselves? The website listed some, but not all of what each girl is willing to do. [b]No list posted in the club. I don't put much weight on what they post on their website anyway. Just go with the flow. [/b]
8. The website lists that the patrons receive a robe, I just want to double check that that is still correct? [b]Robe was provided. [/b]
[QUOTE=BillAgain; 1539861]I was mulling over whether to visit Frankfurt, but I ended up pulling the trigger on tickets to Dusseldorf since they were a couple hundred dollars cheaper and the NRW area in general is cheaper. Anyways I was hoping to get some general questions answered as this seems like a club to visit based purely on the reports. I have scoured this thread, but many posts are old and some contradict others. Any info you guys could provide would be appreciated:
Thanks for your time,
BillAgain[/QUOTE]I have never been to this club, but some of my friends visited in Feb & they gave a raving review of the service from the girls. Not many stunners like some in bigger clubs like GT, but good looking girls. 5 guys picking multiple girls & they all came close to busting a nut in their robes describing the service they received. These guys have been playing around for 7-10 yrs so it is hard to get these guys excited.
I didn't ask about prices, food, if they discriminate & etc. Seemed like a very relaxed club.