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Negotiating Edsa...
[QUOTE=Sugoi]When I went to Casino a couple of weeks ago, the barfine was 1000 and the girl was asking 2000. Our reason for not paying was because we just came from a wet massage at Starfleet and had to get back soon but the girls must have thought it was a money issue.
Apparently they asked the mama-san in a Visayan dialect if they could go for 1000. My brother-in-law understood and told me about it. So, we could have had the girls for 2000 total plus hotel...[/QUOTE]
Strange, but in all of the times I've been to Edsa, aside from the barfine, I've never once discussed money beforehand, and it's never been a problem. I don't think the bar cares about the private arrangement with the girl as its take is limited to the PhP1,000 barfine that you must pay prior to your departure.
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GE
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Strange, but in all of the times I've been to Edsa, aside from the barfine, I've never once discussed money beforehand, and it's never been a problem. I don't think the bar cares about the private arrangement with the girl as its take is limited to the PhP1,000 barfine that you must pay prior to your departure.
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GE[/QUOTE]
We didn't negotiate with them. I think they thought we didn't know what the bar was about and so they readily told us to pay 1000 to the bar and 2000 to them. We said not now and that we would buy them a drink and check out some other bars since it was our first bar. They must have thought that we thought 2000 was too much because my brother-in-law overheard them asking the mama-san if 1000 was ok.
I thought that was strange too because I had thought that the girls keep the money and the bar didn't care. Maybe they have to give a percentage to the mama-san...
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Edsa
[QUOTE=Sugoi]We didn't negotiate with them. I think they thought we didn't know what the bar was about and so they readily told us to pay 1000 to the bar and 2000 to them. We said not now and that we would buy them a drink and check out some other bars since it was our first bar. They must have thought that we thought 2000 was too much because my brother-in-law overheard them asking the mama-san if 1000 was ok.
I thought that was strange too because I had thought that the girls keep the money and the bar didn't care. Maybe they have to give a percentage to the mama-san...[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info guys,
Sugoi, makes sense what you told us here.On my last visit the gurl which I barfined at Edsa , told me she just start working here and before we went out she talked to the mamasan bout barfine, cause later she told me when I gave her the money that it was 3000 for short time and 5000 for overnight (of course I didnt pay that, but I admit I gave her 3000 p for overnight) and she make sure that was the goin rate , cause she asked mama san before.
So I know that the mamasans get a percentage of the barfine from the bar, but its new to me that they also get something from the money I will pay directly to the gurl.
Makes me thinkin....
Happy hunting!!
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Pasig Quezon
Hi,
Just a bit off topic.
I have seen some cheap condos advertised in Pasig and Quezon Cities. A condo in Makati would be better but just a bit more money than I am prepared to risk at this time.
I am just looking at vacation accommodation presently, with the possibilty of renting it out when I am not there.
I would like to hear any comments on these locations.
Thanks,
Steve
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Cops on the Prowl
Unfortunately, I have not had much time to keep up to date with this site so maybe this was covered already. I would go back and read and look but I got some drinking and whorin' to do.
Anyway, let me get down to it. For those of you who frequent LA Cafe, Amazonia, or the other bars in that area watch out. There is a couple cops out there running the old give us money or we will run you in for prositution scam.
I have been nailed twice now by the same cop. His buddies the second time around were different than the first group but he nailed us at a checkpoint near Harrison Plaza. There is a short time motel nearby called LongWood and they know what goes on there so they set up shop in a nice location. The route between LA and LongWood.
Anyway, his routine is he will tell you the girl you are with he identified her as a hooker and will take you to "investigation" (the police station.) He will of course look the other way and do you a "favor." He will do his best to not spell out that he wants money but I am a jerk and will even break balls with cops. (Yeah! I am not the sharpest pencil in the box.) I made him go round in circles till he finally pretty much just told me he wanted cash to let me go.
I was going to call a friend of mine to get me out of it but this guy was willing to go for small change because I gave him the run around pretending to be new and not knowing anything. He was more nervous than the girl in the taxi. HEH!
Anyway, I gave him 2K pesos and sent him and his buddy on their way.
The second time he nailed me it was 2 days ago. I did not even have a girl but my buddy was with his girlfriend of 6 years and the cop ran same routine. (I was the only one out of the taxi because he recognized me and knew I would pay. Would not let the others out of the taxi.)
It took me a minute to realize it but when I looked at him I realized it was the same guy. He pretended not to recognize me right off but of course he did and that is why he nailed us and only let me out of the taxi. Anyway, when I reminded him who I was he got real friendly and played like he was willing to let me go without money this time. Of course his buddy played bad cop and pushed for some cash. I think I gave him 1300 pesos this time and this time I got his name and his cell #. He offered it up to me before I had a chance to ask and told me if I got into trouble to give him a call and he would get me out of it.
Little does he know I am turning that number and name over to a guy I know with a higher rank than his. I intend to push the issue and see his butt in a sling as well. Is why I played Mr. Nice White Man. Keep his guard down.
Anyway, just thought you guys want to know look around before you get in a taxi with a girl from a bar. If you see cops don't get in the taxi. If you dont and you do get in the taxi and you get pulled over. Tell the girl, "We have known each other for 2 years and you make sure the taxi driver uses the story of you are going to get some food. Remember guys. McDonalds here is open 24 hours in some cases. Filling Station on Burgos most definitely is also. That way if they try to run game on you then just say, fine....but you are way out of line and make sure the girl and the driver back you up. If they actually do try to take you in then be quick to offer up that cash. If they actually get you in the police station the price jumps big time. Something else to remember is they dont want to take you down. They just want to get some cash and let you go and get it over as quick as they can.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue][/size]
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Hotels
I will be in Manila for a week and am looking for guest friendly hotel. Has anyone stayed stayed at Hyatt ? Appreciate any suggestion. Thanks.
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The Hyatt
BadBoy27,
I stayed at the Hyatt Casino last January and must recommend it highly - staff are very helpful and girl friendly - service is good, 5 star all the way - not cheap though, but its got everything - good room service, pool, gym, and the casino attached if you get bored - not likely though!
Just a short stroll to LA Cafe, Robinsons Mall, internet cafes, 7/11, and other clubs in Ermita etc.
I will be going back later this year and thats where I will be staying.
Good luck!
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Hey guys,
I'm trying to a find a nice hotel to stay in.
So far, I've considered these two:
Heritage Hotel
Hyatt Regency Hotel
The price is not too big of a deal. I just want a really nice hotel. Any reccomendations?
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Hotel
I really liked the Pan Pacific on Adriatico in Ermita, but that was 3 years ago at $85/Night including Bkfst; price has gone up some since, try AsiaTravel for latest rates.
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Hyatt
[QUOTE=Ralek]Hey guys,
I'm trying to a find a nice hotel to stay in.
So far, I've considered these two:
Heritage Hotel
Hyatt Regency Hotel
The price is not too big of a deal. I just want a really nice hotel. Any reccomendations?[/QUOTE]
Just read on the net that the Hyatt (Roxas Blvd) will no longer be Hyatt soon. Maybe should re-think staying there.
ES
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I've narrowed it down to:
Diamond Hotel
Pan Pacific Hotel
Diamond looks really nice..and it looks like its in the same area too.
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[QUOTE=Eaglestar]Just read on the net that the Hyatt (Roxas Blvd) will no longer be Hyatt soon. Maybe should re-think staying there.
ES[/QUOTE]
I've stayed three times at the Heritage and I'll never stay there by choice again. The only thing that the place has going for it is its location across the road from the EDSA complex. If price is not much of a factor for you, I'd stay in one of the five stars in Makati.
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GE
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The 2 Hyatts
Guys,
Don't be confusing the Hyatt Hotel on Roxas with the much newer and 5 star Hyatt Casino which is in Ermita on Pedro Gil and Mabini - it is 2 blocks from the LA Cafe and Robinsons - well worth the money!! Check it out on the Hyatt website.
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hotel
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I've stayed three times at the Heritage and I'll never stay there by choice again. The only thing that the place has going for it is its location across the road from the EDSA complex. If price is not much of a factor for you, I'd stay in one of the five stars in Makati.
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GE[/QUOTE]A nice place is the Hyatt casino on Pedro Gil. 2 blocks from LaCafe and Robinsons mall. Modern clean hotel. Price is around 5 6k php = $90 130 after taxes. Depending on the room. Great place with cutees at the front desk.
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barfines
Hey Blink,
I actually never barfine anyone. I would either do the deed in the VIP rooms in the KTV and/or get their cell numbers while chatting with them. Most often they are open to hooking up with you during the day and if they realy like you they call in sick and just hang with you.
Of course, they expect a little tip at the end of the day. Having sadi that, 1000 Pesos for barfine seems reasonable.
IB
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hello guys,
thanks for the info on MP ilongo_boy and fast eddie48. I will try thos eplaces once Im there.
Even Im not a newbie in PI, I went first time for barfine at Edsa last year and I think I paid to much for the gurls. 2000 to 3000 plus barfine for allnight/short time.
I dont know , but I dont wana ruin a GFE when I barfine the gurl and talk about money before also discuss about bj etc etc. On the other side I also dont want to overpay or gettin bad service.
So lets talk about this. You have made eyecontact to ur future barfine, you invite her for a drink, now u discuss prize and services. She ask for 3 000 short time and 5000 overnight, which isnt unlikely in Edsa and you just offer half of it. So what happens?? Either she will agree, or you have to say gudbye, walk out and try ur luck in the next bar, talk to another gurl, buy another drink, etc etc. So all in all you might waste tme and aditional money for ladydrinks etc etc. I not saying I would spent 5000 p but someting between 2000 and 3000 is reasonable? Or do I pay to much??
Maybe you guys share some experiences in bargaining and get a gud price without losing face and pissing ur future barfine off and spoiling the GFE.
Im talkin about one or two nights in Manila, after that I go to my gf in AC and in AC I have more time and can collect cp numbers etc and I know the price to pay over there, but Manila is a another scenery.
PM or post here and share :)
Happy hunting!![/QUOTE]